IRC log for #wowace on 20080815

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00:08.51ZhinjioAckis: I'm going to make an attempt to work on ARL tonight
00:08.55CIA-4503sylvanaar * r80453 10ACP/ (ACP.lua ACP.toc): ACP: Change the embedded library discovery method
00:09.09Ackisok kool
00:09.17TinyboomZhinjio: drycoding? :p
00:09.54ZhinjioI don't drycode. I leave to Ackis.
00:09.57Zhinjiothat to Ackis.
00:10.19Tinyboomwonders how many drycode commits there are in ARL :p though I like it and use it:)
00:11.06Stanzilla98%
00:11.07Funkeh`finished tng at last Ellipsis ;p
00:11.15Stanzillawaves at Funkeh`
00:11.17Funkeh`onto voyager now
00:11.42CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80454 10Prat/addon/ (addon.lua options.lua):
00:11.42CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
00:11.42CIA-45Some commented out profiling code.
00:11.45Ackis~arl
00:11.46purl[arl] a poorly named add-on (8% lame), 92% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however, and where to get them.  It will work on Wrath of the Lich King beta servers as well.
00:11.51Ackis92% only now :P
00:12.01Ackis(ps my dry-coding fucked up welfare epics royally)
00:15.49sacarasci shall try out your arl
00:17.04Zhinjioits one of the very first addons I throw at people to convince them that addons are worth the effort
00:17.16Zhinjioalong with 5 or 6 others
00:17.36Ackisarl?
00:17.40Zhinjioyes
00:17.44Ackiscool
00:19.32KriLL3what's dry coding?
00:20.49sacarasc~drycoded
00:20.49purlfrom memory, drycoded is Coding an add-on without testing the changes.
00:21.26KriLL3sounds like an excellent way to stack up errors and then have no way to know how to fix it
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00:34.03CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80455 10Prat/addon/options.lua:
00:34.03CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
00:34.03CIA-45Add to the bliz options panel.
00:39.42Ironhandcan anyone tell me whether there's an addon that can display 3d unit models/portraits and have the model frame be fully click-through?
00:41.51CIA-4503zeksie * r80456 10XPerl/XPerl_Globals.xml:
00:41.51CIA-45XPerl: Improved clarity of the buff cooldowns by enabling the leading edge of
00:41.51CIA-45the graphic. Sadly, this is not optional without editing the XML as they've not
00:41.51CIA-45provided means to toggle this programatically. And I wasn't prepared to create 2
00:41.51CIA-45templates for it.
00:42.50JoshBorkeIronhand: you could make one, just take one that isn't click-through and :EnableMouse(false) on it
00:47.20CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80457 10Prat/ (addon/addon.lua addon/options.lua modules/Clear.lua):
00:47.20CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
00:47.20CIA-45Some options menu tweaks, and a test slash handler
00:50.57ObelixprimeShould I be able to filter Breath: Haste and Breath: Revitalize using elk buff bars
00:51.04Obelixprimewhen I try to whitelist I can't find the buff
00:52.24IronhandJoshBorke: thanks, might have to try that
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00:59.47Obelixprimeanyone
00:59.49Obelixprime?
01:01.38Trell-noes!
01:01.50Trell-just settling down to play some beta again, and world server down yet again >_<
01:03.27Obelixprimeawww
01:03.28Obelixprimeshitty
01:05.34Trell-wee back up
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01:19.08CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80458 10Prat/ (addon/options.lua modules/Scroll.lua):
01:19.08CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
01:19.08CIA-45Fix nasty bug re: options table get/set handler inheritance.
01:34.48ZyndromeColdarra is playably, but barely
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01:53.56EllipsisFunkeh`, will you marry me?
01:55.01sbmh
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01:59.31Trell-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765585510&sid=1&pageNo=1 <- best topic ever.
02:00.19CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80459 10Prat/ (addon/options.lua modules/PopupMessage.lua):
02:00.19CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
02:00.19CIA-45Make a plain slash command to open the config window. Fixes for popupmesaage
02:00.19CIA-45nicknames and sink support
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02:59.08Groktarthat was a new and exciting muru wipe
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02:59.14selckin1%!
02:59.17Groktarone of the side tanks went through the door
02:59.32Groktarmeh, we already had a 3% and 5% entropius today
03:01.21digmouseentropius is just a rush.. one shall stand, one shall fall
03:04.00CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80460 10Prat/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
03:04.00CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
03:04.00CIA-45Module fixes. Added LSM option widget.
03:07.13Ackis~event
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03:16.00Ellipsisahh, who doesn't love a good escort quest... /wrists
03:28.46Groktari like escort quests better when they take you past an enemy faction quest hub
03:28.49Groktarand last 10 minutes
03:28.53Groktarand spawn elites at the end
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03:29.27Ackishello moskau
03:29.33moskauhello ackis :O
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03:33.41EllipsisGroktar: ooh, yeah...my favorite is the sporeggar exalted one
03:33.46Ellipsisyou?
03:33.59CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80462 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ (ag_Options.lua locales/ag_Options-enUS.lua): ag_UnitFrames: further improvements to setup mode
03:34.00CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80461 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: further improvements to setup mode
03:35.43Zyndromeescort quests...
03:35.54Zyndromethinks of a certain piss annoying robot chicken
03:36.47HjalteIt's even better when some jerk starts it before everyone got the quest to escort it.
03:37.23HjalteHappened to me today :(
03:37.38Zhinjiobessie the cow
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03:44.13kenlyricI like escort quests where they follow you
03:44.20kenlyricyou know, all three of them
03:46.21HjalteThe alliance one with the sleepy man has a crazy 3-mob ending, which I failed, so it only makes it easier because you can drink up etc.
03:47.40HjalteHaving leveled a warlock and now a druid, you realise it's so damn much easier to level with a pet.
03:48.02Ellipsis^that
03:48.54Aiianeor failing that, bloodworms! :D
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03:52.37HjalteHave they nerfed DKs damage yet?
03:52.43raeg1no
03:52.56raeg1well that i'm aware of
03:55.50HjalteBah! I send an email through phps email function, but the subject is missing æøå (danish characters). Does anyone have a clue what I can do about it?
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03:57.13HjalteIt's kind of funny, because the message also contains special characters, and they display fine -.-
03:58.17Ellipsisl2english :P
03:58.59HjalteEllipsis: Go away :(
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04:00.48Ellipsisaww, you know I don't mean it <3
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04:02.37Hjaltelicks Ellipsis.
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04:10.19vithosFUCK YES MURU DOWN
04:10.47selckingz
04:16.37ArcharodimHjalte: if there are special characters in your subject, you should encode it to base64
04:17.13HjalteArcharodim: Yeah, I found a forum-thread from somewhere where they were dealing with the same problem. I encoded it with utf8 i believe.
04:17.52Archarodimand it's working?
04:19.01HjalteArcharodim: Yep, it is. But thanks anyway :)
04:19.36Archarodimno problem :)
04:19.36fewyngz vithos
04:19.40fewynhe's a pain
04:19.59vithostook about 3 months
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04:24.56CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80463 10Prat/modules/Editbox.lua:
04:24.56CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
04:24.56CIA-45Make some fixes to this module - but it will still need alot of work.
04:25.48selckinvithos: same for us
04:33.00CIA-4503ackis * r80464 10WelfareEpics/ (WelfareEpics.lua WelfareEpics.toc):
04:33.00CIA-45WelfareEpics:
04:33.00CIA-45lua> print("Penis")
04:33.00lua_botCIA-45: Penis
04:34.25Vonhintennice one ackis
04:34.38DARKGuylmao, nice
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04:39.59Xinhuanwait now, what does this addon do?
04:41.57Xinhuanpokes Ackis in the ribs
04:43.04Ackiswas afk
04:43.16AckisI broke the fucking thing today converting to wrath/dry-coding
04:43.17Xinhuanhey what does that addon do ;p
04:43.19Ackisso it doesn't do anything
04:43.40Xinhuanok ok, lets rephrase that, what is it meant to do?
04:43.42Ackisbut it's supposed to do a lot of cool things
04:43.53Ackisit filters out the main merchant tab, hiding everything that you can't use
04:44.01Ackisadds new tabs for armour, weapons, other
04:44.18Ackisand under each tab it breaks things down, ie: armour -> cloth, leather, mail, plate, etc
04:44.24Xinhuanso its vendor UI replacement?
04:44.27Ackisyes
04:44.37AckisI got tired of wading through 12 million pages on heroic badge vendors
04:44.59Xinhuanwell its not like you buy an epic from that vendor everyday
04:45.38AckisI know
04:45.44Ackisbut it's something that annoyed me
04:45.45selckini'd still love that addon
04:45.50Ackisso I'm attempting to write it
04:45.58Ackisgonna rewrite tomorrow/this weekend
04:46.24Xinhuanwhat's an alternative to atlasloot atm?
04:46.37AckisI'm getting [2008/08/14 22:22:19-157-x2]: Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:20: attempt to index local 'tab' (a nil value): as an error but can't figure it out
04:47.06Xinhuanit uses "self" and stuff now in wotlk
04:47.41Ackisso: PanelTemplates_SetNumTabs(MerchantFrame, tabcount)
04:47.48Ackisis wrong?
04:48.01Xinhuanlemme look
04:48.42VonhintenThat dbag Hemet Nesingwary make an appearance in WOTLK?
04:48.47Ackisyes
04:48.56Vonhintenlovely
04:49.24selckinyou get to kill em i think
04:49.30selckin:)
04:49.35selckini don't read quests :\
04:49.37genetik-"kill 50 penguins" probably
04:49.45Vonhintenthat would be poetic justice
04:49.59selckinthere is a group for the rights of animals type thing
04:50.13selckinif you get a debuff if you kill animals in the area
04:50.28selckinand i think they have a quest to kill nesign
04:50.38Xinhuanwell
04:51.07Xinhuanthe code goes
04:51.08Xinhuantab = getglobal(frame:GetName().."Tab"..i);
04:51.21Xinhuanand i is a loop counter
04:51.23Xinhuanfor i=1, frame.numTabs, 1 do
04:51.39Xinhuanso frame is what you passed in
04:51.40Xinhuanfunction PanelTemplates_UpdateTabs(frame)
04:52.33Ackiswhich in htis case is MerchantFrame
04:52.54Xinhuanso your loop counter went over the nuber of tabs
04:53.01Xinhuanthat is originially created
04:53.17Xinhuanlike the XML defines 2 tabs, but you changed it to 3, the 3rd tab doesn't exist
04:53.32Xinhuanat least, not until you define a frame for it
04:53.38Ackisbut I'm getting the error when I click on the second tab
04:53.54Xinhuanyes, that is because the code loops over ALL tabs to hide all of them except the one to be shown
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04:54.51Ackishmm so the tabs aren't being created then
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04:55.06Xinhuani didn't think they were auto created
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04:55.26AckisI created them specifically
04:58.17Ackisbut they're being created so I'm confused
05:03.33CIA-4503ackis * r80465 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua:
05:03.33CIA-45WelfareEpics:
05:03.33CIA-45- Few fixes for the bug I'm encountering, none of them worked however.
05:03.33CIA-45- Time to play WAR
05:06.57CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80466 10Prat/modules/ (CustomFilters.lua Pending/CustomFilters.lua includes.xml):
05:06.57CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
05:06.57CIA-45Customfilters ported - not working.
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05:21.43CIA-4503archarodim * r80467 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Readme.txt lisez-moi.txt localization.lua):
05:21.43CIA-45Decursive:
05:21.43CIA-45- WotLK: Added support for "Cleanse Spirit", a new talent for shamans to clean 1 curse, 1 disease and 1 poison
05:21.43CIA-45<PROTECTED>
05:21.43CIA-45- Typos fixes in support .txt files.
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05:54.05Vonhintenman, if you haven't seen tropic thunder, you gotta see it
05:54.19Vonhintensome seriously hilarious shit in that movie
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06:00.50CIA-4503Tuck * r80468 10TuckUnitFrames/: TuckUnitFrames: Created a folder for the addon
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06:14.39CIA-45tekerr: 03Tekkub 07master * r7ec824b 10/ tekErr.lua : Why not select the text automatically when we click an error
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06:27.42HjalteOh crap. I just realised how awful the no-downranking change is for my warlock. No more rank 1 soul draining!
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06:53.57VexirI accidentaly hid ag unit frames, how do I show them again?
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06:57.11Vexirhello
06:57.12Vexir?
06:57.23selckinsssht
06:57.26selckinpeople sleeping
06:57.30AeyanEllo
06:57.44AeyanAnd no, I don't know.
06:58.04AeyanUse /aguf and fiddle with options, I suppose
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06:58.58cladhaireKemayo: ping
07:03.00Vexirty aeyan
07:03.15AeyanGot it working again?
07:03.34Kemayocladhaire: Pong?
07:05.40tisphieIs there a way to share one copy of ace library with all ace'd addons?(download without externals) or I have to download all externals?
07:07.00AeyanYes, it's called disembedding and most of the Ace updaters can do it for you
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07:07.10KemayoYou either have to download without externals, or go through and manually adjust everything.
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07:10.49tisphieOk. I play wow in linux with wine, so I dont like to run another win32 updater. Then I have to edit all TOC file, right?
07:11.54KemayoYou shouldn't need to edit any toc files.
07:12.33KemayoAll that downloading no-ext versions does is not include the external'd files.  The Optdeps in the toc files should handle things for you.
07:13.32AeyanYes, if you download no-ext versions you can manage the libraries yourself, if you'd like
07:13.38tisphieBut at least I need one copy of them. Is it ok put it in the Interface/Addons ?
07:13.52AeyanIf you're going to do it manually though, I'd just stick with the normal externals version
07:13.59AeyanSeems kind of masochistic, hehe
07:14.22AeyanYes, just have a copy of the libraries in Interface/Addons
07:15.41tisphieI see.
07:15.45tisphieWith external, It's too slow to download all of them in Korea.
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07:17.42AeyanWell, there's a few multiplatform updaters
07:17.47AeyanYou can browse them in http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=57.0
07:17.55AeyanBut to answer your orginal question
07:18.37AeyanYes, if you download no-ext addons, then download copys of the libraries they need and put them in Interface/Addons with all the other addons
07:18.46AeyanNo need to edit tocs or anything, they'll work as is
07:19.39tisphieThanks. that the answer what I needed :)
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07:27.45tisphieActually, I'm doing same stuff as updater (extract deps, and xargs svn co --ignore-externals blah blash)
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07:30.58KemayoI need to update my addon updater setup to account for the imminent going-away of wowace files.
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08:18.53CIA-4503borlox * r80471 10Fortress/Core.lua:
08:18.53CIA-45Fortress:
08:18.53CIA-45- fixed another error
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08:30.31theoddone33hm
08:30.36theoddone33embroidery is interesting
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08:51.01theoddone33although they should give cloak enhancements to leatherworkers
08:51.03theoddone33rather than tailors
08:52.02nevcairielI wonder what alchemists get
08:52.11nevcairielas it looks right now, we're screwed again =P
08:52.19selckinyou get a heal!
08:52.38nevcairielthats herbalism
08:52.48nevcairielalso, i can already heal me, i dont need another one
08:52.50selckinright :<
08:53.33selckin40% trinket useless now
08:53.38selckinprobably dropping alchy anyway
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08:54.11nevcairielwe get a ~30% passive buff on potions anyway
08:54.13nevcairielwithout trinket
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08:54.32selckinyea but 1 pot/combat
08:54.34selckinso useless
08:54.49nevcairielalso works on elixirs/flasks, but yeah
08:55.21selckinprobably gonna drop my lw/alchy for bs/inscription
08:55.24selckinor something like that
08:55.33VonhintenThe 30% passive is nice
08:55.55VonhintenStill, not very much when you get down to numbers
08:56.20VonhintenThe trinket was useless to me
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10:05.01BreezeIs there an equivalent to RawHook for events in Ace 3.0? I'm trying to filter some things from CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM. I can hook ChatFrame_OnEvent, but I think hooking the event would be a better way.
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10:06.14nevcairielyou cant "hook" events
10:09.36Breezenevcairiel, what do you think is the best way to prevent the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM event from being read by the chatframe and other addons?
10:10.23nevcairieliterate over all frames registered for that event and hook that
10:10.31nevcairielits really not viable
10:10.33nevcairielthough
10:12.33BreezeI think I'll stick with hooking ChatFrame_OnEvent then, so the player doesn't see the filtered messages
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10:21.16CIA-4503Copystring * r80472 10YurrCombatLog/ (Config.lua Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua Minimap.lua):
10:21.16CIA-45YurrCombatLog:
10:21.16CIA-45- more improvements in the filtering, use COMBAT_LOG_EVENT instead of COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED
10:21.16CIA-45- some tweaks i have already forgotten
10:21.16CIA-45- removed Watches for the moment until i figure out how to make it work with COMBAT_LOG_EVENT
10:26.26ArrowmasterBreeze: you should be able to use chat filters
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10:27.22Arrowmaster!api ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter
10:27.22lua_botCould not find a match for 'ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter'.
10:27.33Arrowmaster~api ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter
10:27.34purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter
10:28.41BreezeArrowmaster, thanks
10:29.24Arrowmasternevcairiel: ill probably have something interesting for you later today
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10:45.22nevcairielWhats that?
10:45.24nevcairielis curious
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10:51.36CIA-45XLootMaster:
10:51.36CIA-45- update/fix ruRU typos
10:51.36CIA-45- organized localizations (deleted not used loc files)
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11:21.05CIA-4503next96 * r80477 10YurrCombatLog/Locale-koKR.lua:
11:21.05CIA-45YurrCombatLog:
11:21.05CIA-45- Update locale koKR
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11:25.44steevokay - opinions - should a hunter roll for shard of contempt when a melee is in the group?
11:26.37phyberif you're a good person, no.  if you're an ass, go for it.
11:26.51phyberor if you're one of those strange hunters who think they can melee, also go for it ;)
11:27.14steevyeah
11:27.37steeva friend who's been trying for like 3 weeks straight of heroic mgt's just lost the shard in a roll to a hunter
11:27.38StickWick37Sadly there's many hunters out there who think they can melee -.-
11:27.50steevmy rogue has it <3
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11:28.13steevthe hunter in our guild wanted to roll on it, i told him he could... after all other melees in the group he goes with have it
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11:28.30StickWick37lol
11:29.18steevnah, i wasn't that mean
11:29.33steevi just explained to him why it wouldn't benefit him as much as melee
11:29.52StickWick37well your a better person then I am XD
11:30.07steeveh, he's a guildie - and a decent hunter too, just doesn't understand some stats
11:30.22StickWick37I would of have gone off. Too many memories of losing gear due to people who dont really need it rolling
11:30.25StickWick37ah
11:30.38steevyeah, happened to a friend in BT or some such
11:31.00steevthe guild rule for them is, if you roll need - you should be making the item then
11:31.11phybera priest took my Stratholme Sandals years ago! ;_;
11:31.15steevperson rolled need - but was already wearing the belt he claimed he was gonna be creating
11:31.22phyber(i forget the name of that warlock set)
11:31.38StickWick37LOL
11:31.49steevi am actually the outspoken person in the guild
11:32.00steevi will tell you if you're doing something that is retarded
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11:32.10steevi will also explain why
11:32.33steevi like to think of myself as a raid training instructor :-P
11:32.48StickWick37haha
11:33.13steevi finally got to take my ret pally to kara today
11:33.17steevi was so happy
11:33.37steevbeen healing that damn place for badges for so long i just chuck em
11:34.09StickWick37lol I actually never liked healing in the least til I had to heal through it on my priest cause my server had enough SPriest already
11:34.39steevi set myself to af the tank, and then i just hit 1 every 3.5 seconds
11:34.49CIA-4503phanx * r80478 10OnScreenHealth/ (Notice.lua OnScreenHealth.toc):
11:34.49CIA-45OnScreenHealth:
11:34.49CIA-45- Add moving notice
11:34.50StickWick37lol
11:35.01steev(rank 1 chain heal)
11:35.16steevi normally turn around and watc tv
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11:35.34steevif someone says something about the tank going down fast i hit f
11:35.49steevgod bless whomever thought up putting the notches on the f and j keys
11:36.09StickWick37:P
11:36.15CIA-4503phanx * r80480 10CreatureComforts/ (CreatureComforts.toc Notice.lua):
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11:36.15CIA-45- Add moving notice
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11:36.32steevso
11:36.37steevi saw a wotlk beta movie
11:36.47steevthem downing some boss in utgarde or some such
11:36.59Groktarheh
11:37.00steevand above the mobs heads, it would say stuff like, high threat
11:37.09steevis that the built in threat meter?
11:37.14Punkieindeed
11:37.14Groktarya
11:37.17Groktarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F79iThUEWFg
11:37.20steevspiffy
11:37.36steevalso
11:37.40steevte reason i ask about sard
11:37.42steevfail
11:38.01steevthe reason i ask about shard is because it has a chance on hit - and as far as i know, that is both ranged and melee
11:38.15steevi just think a hunter taking something with 44 expertise over someone who is melee is fail
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11:38.40CIA-45GridStatusHealingReduced:
11:38.40CIA-45- Add moving notice
11:38.40steevand they get added to my ignore list to never be grouped with
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11:41.15CIA-4503phanx * r80482 10GridStatusHealingReduced/GridStatusHealingReduced.toc:
11:41.15CIA-45GridStatusHealingReduced:
11:41.15CIA-45- Update toc
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11:43.07CIA-45ShieldsUp:
11:43.07CIA-45- Add moving notice
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11:50.12orionshockanyone else notice that they fixed Pestilence  
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11:53.30Adirelle_er... found thing by scrolling back in the history : "<Kemayo> I need to update my addon updater setup to account for the imminent going-away of wowace files."
11:53.44Adirelle_what Kemayo is talking about ?
11:54.21JoshBorkeAdirelle: it's being folded into the curse world
11:54.26JoshBorkeit will remain wowace
11:54.27orionshocksorta
11:54.29orionshock...
11:54.33JoshBorkebut you'll get to the files through the curse client
11:54.34phyberhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=41755
11:54.43phyberthe quest this item is awarded from has an awesome name.
11:54.51Adirelleoh... any forum thread about this ?
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11:55.46nevcairielonly 20 or so
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11:55.52Adirellethe Curse client will integrate a "files.wowace.com" client ? so WAU support will be dropped ?
11:56.32Adirelleerm... I should put the news forum in my list of news :p
11:58.34nevcairielyes, WAU will die
11:59.43steevim not a fan of curse client current implementation
12:00.06steevwhere current = beta
12:01.31orionshocksteev:  the ppl working the curse client and curseforge all started here at wowace. i have not ever seen them screw anyone over. i don't think they are going to start now
12:01.49steeveh?
12:01.51renchapit is a linux curse client ?
12:01.56steevim not talking about being screwed over
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12:02.12steevim talking about the way you download the list, and then you choose a "category"
12:02.14orionshockin that case, beta is part of development :P
12:02.15steevthen its just a big list
12:02.27steevand you have to click each individual one to see wtf it is
12:02.39orionshockrenchap: after they get it working on windows - ports to other platforms is planned soon after
12:03.00steevand lets be honest - most addon authors arent the most informative about what their addon does in their summaries
12:03.07steev"a collection of addons i use"
12:03.08renchapi hope files.wowace.com will be stopped after linux client is available
12:03.22orionshocksteev: choose better authors
12:03.24steevrenchap: there is, its called svn
12:03.33steevorionshock: thats just from going randomly down the list
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12:03.42orionshockhell, i'd still be using WAU after file site shut down
12:03.48renchapsteev: it seems the curse migration will stop svn too
12:03.54renchapor at least split the svn
12:03.58steevrenchap: git? :-P
12:03.58orionshockrenchap: no just more split up
12:04.13steevits not that its horrible
12:04.15orionshockrenchap: if you install the CLI version of SVN, WAU will update them automatically
12:04.20renchapso i will need to checkout all my  180 addons manually ?
12:04.21orionshockeven if the file site is borked
12:04.26orionshockrenchap: initaly yes
12:04.33steevbut show me a friggin summary so i don't have to click on each individual addons name to see what it might be
12:04.43renchapthats bad :/
12:04.47orionshockbut do u run alpha on all your addons?? i don't know anyone that does that
12:05.37charonrenchap: for addon in *; do if [ -n "$(svn ls http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/$addon)" ]; then rm -rf $addon; svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/$addon; fi; done
12:05.43charonuntested, but something along those lines
12:05.54steevcharon: no, don't do that
12:06.11Pneumatuswhy on earth would you want to delete then checkout
12:06.16steevwhat happens if there is an error on checkout
12:06.17renchapcharon: and when the wowace svn will be splitted ?
12:06.24steevplus
12:06.28CIA-4503oojoo * r80485 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua:
12:06.28CIA-45BigWigs_CommonAuras:
12:06.28CIA-45- deDE update, wording and such
12:06.33steevwhy would you check it out new when you can just update
12:06.33Pneumatusjust svn update each one
12:06.37charon...
12:06.41steevless work on the server
12:06.52charonhe asked how to turn the addons into svn checkouts because WAU dies
12:06.59charoni'm not proposing this as an alternative to 'svn up *'
12:07.02steevah
12:07.13renchapsvn will be splitted
12:07.20charonyes, the split will be a problem, but i'm sure you can rewrite the command to handle that.
12:07.22steevrenchap: not too hard to fix
12:07.29steevsvn relocate
12:07.30renchapdepend of the new structure :)
12:07.52Pneumatusthe new structure may well use a shortname like cf does, in which case you'd need a lookup table of Toc name vs shortname
12:07.55renchapand if everybody continues to use svn, as curgeforge provides support for git
12:08.14orionshock^^
12:08.35steevin linux, the scm doens't matter
12:08.39renchapcurrently i use wowace.py, i only need the same script for curse hosted addons :)
12:08.41steevits extremely easy to abstract it
12:08.54steevi use one script to update any of my repos
12:09.13steevits not the most intelligent but it works with svn, git, cvs, mercurial and bzr
12:09.39steevit goes on some assumptions though
12:09.50Pneumatusfor the effort it will take to manually svn relocate each addon once, its not that horrific.
12:10.28steevactually its svn sw not relocate, sorry
12:10.31steevor svn switch
12:10.32Pneumatusor even to just delete your WAU handled folders and co each one manually
12:10.44steevPneumatus: which is what charon's script does
12:10.46charonsteev: don't you need svn switch --relocate?
12:10.54steevcharon: probably
12:11.00charonbut yes, that would probably be faster than a new checkout
12:11.03steevits been ages since i've had to do something like that
12:11.38charonhopes they all switch to git or at least hg/bzr
12:12.12KriLL3"unable to verify game version" wtf?
12:12.14Pneumatusbut im pretty sure they said the initial import into the new system would be to svn, but developers may chose to switch to git/hg
12:12.27KriLL3tells me to go to the support page for more info but there isn't any there
12:12.55nevcairielhowever if you switch to git/hg, it will not automatically import your revision history
12:13.06nevcairielyou might have to do that yourself with git-svnimport or something like that
12:13.25charonthat's discontinued
12:13.37charonuse 'git svn', possibly with --no-metadata and an author map
12:14.47steevcharon: personally hate bzr but its been making some progress
12:15.00steevused to take aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages on a small repo to check out and/or update
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12:15.27charonwell i thought the way i said that would place me firmly in the git camp :p i was just trying to be nice by including the other dvcs
12:15.48charoni tried hg but i couldn't live without git's extensive rewriting features
12:16.24Ljusterhi! i'm running vista64 and getting error during update on all addons. Anyone got a solution ?
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12:17.15orionshockLjuster: did u check the forums?
12:17.17KriLL3what's the contents of the realmlist.wtf on the European version of the LK beta?
12:17.26KriLL3the beta says it can't validate my game version
12:17.53Ljusteryes i did couldn't find anything that helped
12:18.14charonreads Ljuster's mind to discover the actual error message
12:18.19KriLL3Ljuster: getting what kind of error in what program?
12:18.21Lyn_KriLL3, set realmlist 12.129.236.111
12:18.21Lyn_<PROTECTED>
12:18.27KriLL3same as mine
12:18.29KriLL3wtf...
12:19.02KriLL3the support page only deals with the non beta version, and the repair tool doesn't work with the beta it seems
12:19.07KriLL3I'll try re-installing
12:19.20orionshockKriLL3: del the wow.exe file and run repair tool?
12:19.25KriLL3charon: welcome to the world of tech support
12:19.26Ljustererror durin update in wowaceupdater on ALL addons
12:19.40KriLL3Ljuster: WHAT ERROR?
12:20.03orionshockLjuster: you do understand that what you have said so far tells u nothing but that you do not understand how to ask a question or for help
12:20.19charonwould be funny if the program literally spit out "Error during update of $addon".
12:21.19Ljusterbut thats all it says
12:21.28Ljustercharon
12:21.59AdirelleAntiarc: ping ?
12:22.51orionshockLjuster: my original question, did you check the forums?
12:23.07Ljusteryes i did
12:23.22Adirellehow do you specify a namespace for autodoc ? (http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format)
12:23.41charoncan't help pointing out that a simple google search turns up several hits on the wowace.com forums
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12:34.07orionshockeh well...
12:34.15orionshocki guess you can't help people that don't want it
12:34.47charoni think thanks to my unwillingness to build google query strings for others, WAU has just lost a customer
12:35.16Lyn_Megalon, ha! see you in taunka'le village
12:35.25Megalonoh yea
12:35.30Lyn_^^
12:35.34Megalonthat was me
12:35.39Megalonjust reproducing a crashbug
12:35.49Lyn_yeah, see it
12:35.51Megalon:D
12:37.38KriLL3charon: a great loss it was
12:37.57KriLL3perhaps in a few years time he might come back wiser
12:38.42orionshockKriLL3: if he was american, that's asking alot
12:38.50KriLL3true
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12:39.10orionshocki've found that the truely stupid people ask questions like that
12:39.33orionshockdifference being that the smart one actually get their problems fixed..
12:39.34Lyn_uh nice, temporarily fixed roath's action bar for wotlk :x
12:39.57KriLL3Lyn_: with a hammer?
12:40.05Lyn_no
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12:40.07orionshockLyn_: can you fix the new tradeskill links while your at it
12:40.13orionshocklike figure out how to open them :D
12:40.29Lyn_orionshock, tradeskill what? *g
12:40.42orionshockthere is a new tradeskill link
12:40.58orionshockopen your professions window, there is a "chain-link" near the name
12:41.00Lyn_ah
12:41.01Lyn_this
12:41.06Lyn_wait
12:41.22Lyn_it works?
12:41.32orionshockaye
12:41.33Lyn_megalon jsut need to click it and test if it works :p
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12:45.18sbwell
12:45.32sbnew threat display doesnt work yet :(
12:46.03Lyn_when i was in nexus with my pally tank.. it was quite nice.. but had to look to the ufs all the time to see if there is a dot which colors from green to red
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12:47.58sbthere is code for threat bars, but the queried variables dont exist yet
12:48.08nevcairielIt does work
12:48.12sbit does?
12:48.14nevcairielyou just have to activate it manually
12:48.18nevcairielbecause its still disabled
12:48.24sbmhh, setCVar didnt work for me
12:48.28sbhow?
12:48.36sbdid you get it to work? :)
12:48.44sbor do you only think it should work?
12:49.07sbif ( not IsThreatWarningEnabled() or not GetCVarBool("showThreatMeter") ) then
12:49.09nevcairiel(23:23:02) (@nevcairiel) ./script SetCVar("showThreatMeter", 1)
12:49.11nevcairiel(23:23:33) (@nevcairiel) just do /script IsThreatWarningEnabled = function() return true end
12:49.16sbahh okay
12:49.17sb:)
12:49.30sbyou need to create that function
12:49.42nevcairielthe function exists
12:49.54nevcairielyou overwrite
12:49.56nevcairielit
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12:51.47digmouseis global "TextStatusBarTextSmall" changed or exists? my ClearFont keep reporting "attempt to index global 'TextStatusBarTextSmall' (a nil value)"
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12:51.49sbokay cool thanks
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12:56.03gaellalireis there a svn admin here  ?
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12:57.50gaellalirei guess no ...
13:03.02Josh_Borkegaellalire: why?
13:03.11Josh_Borkegaellalire: you should almost never need a svn admin
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13:04.03gaellalirei lost my account access
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13:13.46Josh_Borkesend another email saying you forgot your password
13:13.57Josh_Borkeor if you actually had it revoked, yous hould have been given a reason
13:13.58gaellalirealready done ^^
13:14.12Josh_Borkenow you wait
13:14.20gaellalire1 year ago ^^
13:16.02gaellalirei could retry but it would be speeder if i find directly an admin here
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13:16.22Josh_Borkeyou emailed 1 year ago?  you should send a new email :-P
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13:20.22CIA-4503oojoo * r80486 10BigWigs/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
13:20.22CIA-45BigWigs:
13:20.22CIA-45- another deDE update
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13:33.41steevhrm
13:33.53steevin recount, does melee = all hits total, or just white hits
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13:34.15charonall hits of school "physical"
13:34.34charonafaik.
13:35.06charonah well that doesn't make much sense, disregard that, i should check
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13:36.37steevheh
13:36.55steevyeah, i was trying to figure out my soc proc rate
13:37.15charonsteev: i just logged in, the recount of last night shows all yellows separately, so it's probably just whites
13:37.29steevhm, okay
13:41.05Funkeh`+FLOOR = "Floor"; -- Dungeon Map Level
13:41.05Funkeh`+FLOOR_NUMBER = "Floor %d"; -- Dungeon Map Level
13:41.07Funkeh`interesting
13:41.45nevcairielonly used for the dalaran map yet
13:42.15Funkeh`ah
13:42.23Funkeh`was thinking more hmm maybe introduction of dungeon maps
13:42.42Funkeh`globalstrings is always such a tease fr upcoming things
13:42.42nevcairielmaybe
13:42.47nevcairielwho knows what they plan
13:42.53Funkeh`aye :P
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13:47.09ag`I want to be able to set the "draw edge" flag on cooldown frames
13:47.16ag`currently you can only do it through xml
13:47.18ag`:(((((
13:48.00Funkeh`anyone know of a hosted location for the latest build
13:48.10Funkeh`my download doesn't seem to be connecting to peers
13:49.07steevpeer is the man
13:49.13steevalways tryin to keep a brotha down
13:50.06Funkeh`wierd now it started conecting
13:50.08Funkeh`oh well
13:50.31steevjust like bitching about drop rates on a quest, next thing you know, the next 4 mobs drop the last 4 items you need
13:51.06sbFunkeh`: need torrent?
13:51.23Funkeh`gone from 2 hours to 2 min now thanks :)
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13:53.48foxlitIt's cute how the wowace forums think I'm posting directly from whatever proxy they use to cache pages
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13:56.29harloh no, my bankstack messed up my inventory again.
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13:59.58Funkeh`foxlit, it's ok, we see the real one :)
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14:04.35thulanyone from ravencrest, eu, horde? :-P
14:06.23Lyn_coldarra still unstable or is it now possible to play on it?
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14:07.58KriLL3aren't more and more people added to the server as more people get invites?
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14:08.25KriLL3imo they should set up more servers
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14:08.59MegalonLyn_: it's not between 0100 and 1000, so no, unplayable atm ;x
14:09.20Lyn_nice
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14:10.09ag`It helps you if you go to a part of the world that isn't used a lot
14:10.10Megalona short while ago it was like up for another 5mins, spent those to loot 7 items from my mailbox ;)
14:10.21thulEllipsis: so, when are you coming over? :-P
14:10.29thulI need someone to use as a target for my archery practice.
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14:13.23KriLL3how about the inside of a barn?
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14:25.44CIA-4503profalbert * r80487 10Parrot/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
14:25.44CIA-45Parrot:
14:25.44CIA-45- uid-calculation-tweak (very slight performance-increase)
14:25.44CIA-45- triggersytem-tweak (more clean approach)
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14:27.31Ellipsisthul: hrm....how's tomorrow sound to you? :P
14:30.32thulEllipsis: good! that's a date then :-P
14:30.41Ellipsishot ;)
14:30.53thulsuperduperhot actually
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14:31.35Ellipsisso I need a name for my second beta copy
14:31.37Ellipsis:<
14:31.47Ellipsismaybe I should start using other punctuation marks
14:31.49Fisker-Ellipsis' Ellipsis
14:32.00Ellipsiswonders if interrobang is taken
14:32.03[dRaCo]how's Ellipsisisisis?
14:33.32JensRexIs there some addon to help with buffing? Buff handling at AV start is annoying.
14:34.05Fisker-but Ellipsis i'm Ellipsising you
14:34.06Fisker-:(
14:34.11Ellipsisoh sorry
14:34.14EllipsisFisker-s Fisker-
14:34.20AckisWorkJensRex: xrs is what I use, there's a few others out there
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14:34.48Ellipsishm, I just logged in to a fresh copy and I have a half-full breath bar x.x
14:34.57Ellipsis(nowhere near water)
14:35.25AckisWorkEllipsis: same with me on new transfers
14:35.28AckisWorkmakes me go ...
14:35.29AckisWorkhahah
14:35.35JensRexI just tried Buffbot, but didn't have much success with that.
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14:37.01AckisWorkohhh You have been selected to create your very own FigurePrint!
14:37.23clad|awayooh
14:37.52KriLL3anyone know the course of action when the beta says "Unable to verify game version" ?
14:38.03KriLL3*validate
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14:38.22Pneumatuslog in with your username, not your email address
14:38.30KriLL3that's it?
14:39.08KriLL3here I wiped the beta and re-downloaded it all...
14:39.21PneumatusEU i assume
14:39.25KriLL3yeah
14:39.49Pneumatusthere's probably only around a dozen posts on it on the forums, as well as at least 1 sticky
14:39.52profalberthmm... somehow my kaspersky blocks the beta-updater
14:39.52Pneumatusi can see how you'd miss it
14:40.33syerenProfalbert, I dislike how my outgoing heals total no long includes me if I am part of my Chain Heal :(
14:40.38syerenMakes it look small :(
14:41.31profalberthmm
14:41.58KriLL3Pneumatus: where?
14:42.10Pneumatushttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=9353883&sid=2003
14:42.13Pneumatuseu beta forums
14:42.16KriLL3the technical support forum doesn't say anything
14:42.24KriLL3that's the US forums
14:42.30Pneumatusnope
14:42.40Pneumatussid=2003 is EU
14:43.14KriLL3odd, it's on the US website
14:43.31profalbertsyeren: you have outgoing self heals turned off, right?
14:43.51syerenDon't know if that option even existed!
14:44.09profalbertit's off by default ;)
14:44.15syerenIt's enabled :p
14:44.18profalberthmm
14:44.19syerenDid you add it lately or something :P?
14:44.20CIA-4503doktorjet * r80488 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-ruRU.lua: GatherMate: and again minor fixes for ruRU locale, as Blizzards continue to change names for objects and items...
14:44.25syerenNo, I mean I just enabled it :p
14:44.34syerenSo now I will appear in my Chain heal clumps again!
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14:44.47Mytosmornin folks
14:44.48profalbertI think so
14:45.04Ellipsispet peeve: beta client stores SVs under the wow account name, but other things like bindings-cache and macros-cache under the blizz account email address
14:45.12Ellipsiswhy not just store it all in one damn place?
14:45.12clad|awayknown issue
14:45.17clad|awaydue to the backout of the bnet auth
14:45.18profalbertbut all your outgoing heal is now showing in the outgoing area, that also kind of sucks
14:45.20Ellipsisyeah, but it's annoying
14:45.21clad|awaybecause it was all under email address
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14:45.47clad|awayit was all stored in one place
14:45.49syerenWould be awesome if Blizzard fixed Spell effect shadows so I didn't have to turn certain fights to fucking ugly mode -_-
14:46.06Ellipsisclad|away: and they surely could have moved it all to one different place instead of splitting things up?
14:46.08syerenBut apparently it's perfectly normal for people to get 1 FPS on shit like Twins / Illidan -_-
14:46.12clad|awayyes
14:46.17clad|awaythis is what we call a "fuck up"
14:46.19clad|awayor "mistake"
14:46.20clad|away;-)
14:46.29Ellipsisor "annoyance"
14:46.34Ellipsiswhich is why I was complaining in the first place
14:46.36profalbert~mistake
14:46.37purlfrom memory, mistake is you all make, but never are, or a bzflag error
14:46.38Ellipsis:P
14:46.43clad|away:P
14:47.49Mytoswhats a new mod i can toy with, im bored and wanna mess with my ui
14:47.59clad|awayDressToKill imo!
14:48.00clad|awaylol
14:48.07clad|awaytho its not visual by any means
14:48.20Mytoswhats it do?
14:48.34profalbertsyeren: so you don't want to self-heals as outgoing except they are part in a chain-heal?
14:48.39clad|awayhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10359-DressToKill.html
14:48.56syerenThat's how I wanted it, but I don't mind regardless profalbert :p
14:49.21profalbertsyeren: and that did work some time?
14:49.37syerenYeah, like 2 weeks ago :p
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14:52.33Trell-wow
14:52.37Trell-dresstokill looks awesome
14:52.41Trell-thanks clad|away
14:52.55clad|awayhehe yw
14:52.59clad|awaylet me know if you do anythign cool with it
14:53.01clad|awayand i'll post it
14:53.05Funkeh`oh
14:53.09Ellipsiswhat's it do?
14:53.09Trell-like...using it?
14:53.10AckisWorkso many poses for figureprints, most of them gay
14:53.10Funkeh`I see they fixed the login dragon
14:53.12Funkeh`hehe
14:53.12Trell-:P
14:53.14Ellipsis(can't open my browser right now)
14:53.17Trell-yeah Funkeh`, it looks badass now
14:53.24Funkeh`definately
14:53.27Trell-Ellipsis: DressToKill is a very simple add which aims to take the guesswork out of choosing the "best" equipment for a given situation. Rather than including a complicated item parsing library that can break and change over time it sacrifices speed for accuracy.
14:53.37Ellipsiso.O
14:53.39Gnarfozthat model is old though
14:53.41Ellipsishow does it calculate then?
14:53.42EllipsisMAGIC?!
14:53.44Trell-bascially it allows you to enter a line of code that will weight your gear
14:53.47Gnarfozdunno how they could've fucked it up before
14:53.49clad|awayEllipsis: it tries every single one of them on
14:53.49Gnarfoz:D
14:53.51clad|awayits awesome ;-)
14:53.54Ellipsisclad|away: rofl
14:53.56Trell-and dress you in the best depending on what stats you specify
14:53.56Ellipsisthat's great
14:54.05clad|awayi love watching my character change clothes so quickly
14:54.07clad|awayits honestly funny
14:54.07Trell-apparently it can 'leave a mess' in your bags though.
14:54.09clad|awaybear form is best
14:54.10Lyn_hm
14:54.11clad|awaythe bear convulses
14:54.23clad|awayTrell-: at most it'll leave like 8 things laying around
14:54.26clad|awayeverythign else it does in place
14:54.39clad|awaythe only "mess" is when you end up not choosing something your'e already wearing
14:54.43clad|awaycause it has to put it somewhere :P
14:54.49clad|awaytho i should just put it back in the spot of the item you chose
14:54.53clad|awaychanges that in next version
14:55.17clad|awayhonestly tho, I can never remember how many AGI == AP, etc..so i said screw it.. i'll just measure the AP
14:55.26AckisWorkthey need to add clothing to the pet/mount/hopefully tabard section
14:55.32Trell-gonna try it after lunch.
14:56.06EllipsisI actually really like that approach
14:56.29Ellipsissure, it's not the most *efficient* way to do things...but it's safer and easier
14:56.38clad|awaylocal base, pos, neg = UnitAttackPower("player")
14:56.39clad|awaylocal apower = base + pos - neg
14:56.39clad|awaylocal health = UnitHealthMax("player")
14:56.41clad|awayreturn (apower * 1.0) + (health * 0.5)
14:56.47clad|awaythat's to tune you for top AP
14:56.48clad|away:P
14:56.58clad|awaywith health considered with a lesser weight
14:59.11clad|awaygonna give it some more nifty toys later
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15:02.10thulhmm, what is most fun specwise for shamans in bgs? is resto all the way the answer? or can one do ok with elemental or enhancement too?
15:02.16thulI find that it is kind of hard to find good elemental gear.
15:02.27thuland most of my enhancement gear is leather and sub-par mail gear :-P (lvl 69 now)
15:02.40Megaloni wouldn't call enhancement fun in bg's
15:02.41Lyn_elemental is so awesome right now in beta... no damn interruption
15:02.48Lyn_:x
15:02.48Megalonit's more a masochistic approach that way
15:02.52Megalon:c
15:03.16thulMegalon: hehe, ok? not enough damage and too vunerable?
15:03.25thulLyn_: well, I did elemental at 60 in av, chain lightnings ftw.
15:03.34Lyn_thul, i dont speak about bg atm
15:03.41Lyn_didnt see you talk about shamans
15:04.00Lyn_i only mention that the 70% pushback protection is awesome :p
15:04.06Lyn_and yes, elemental in bg = fun
15:04.09Lyn_enhancement = shit
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15:04.35thulhmm, why is enhancement shit? itemization or just the spec?
15:04.46sbclad|away: mhh - you could implement some nice presets from lootrank forums :)
15:04.51clad|awayyep
15:04.52clad|awaythat's my plan
15:04.55sbah okay
15:04.56clad|awayonce its a bit more mature
15:04.57sbperfect :)
15:05.11Lyn_thul, pve enhanceman is nice, yeah, but in bg it is shitty cause of kitable
15:05.11clad|awayalready have Emmeral's cat and bear using Pawn
15:05.15clad|awaythats the cool thin
15:05.19clad|awayif there's an API for an addon
15:05.23clad|awayyou can query it from within the compare func
15:05.40clad|awaylocal stats, bonus = PawnGetStatsForInventorySlot(slot, false, "player")
15:05.40clad|awayreturn PawnGetItemValue(stats, bonus, "Emmerald cat DPS")
15:05.55thulLyn_: ah, good point. no shadowstep and no blessing of freedom.
15:06.11Lyn_thul, enhancement in pvp is playing a victim..
15:06.23clad|awayalthough in that case there's no need to try the items on :P
15:06.26thulLyn_:P
15:06.31Lyn_:p
15:06.55Lyn_but dmg itself isn ice
15:07.00Lyn_you can kill every caster :p
15:07.09Lyn_WHEN you are in melee range
15:08.05sacarasci dislike pvp with my enhancement shaman... but i find casting boring and i suck at healing
15:08.20Lyn_hahaha
15:15.16StickWick37I didnt know it was physically possible to suck at healing
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15:16.35selckinits the hardest part of the game
15:17.38MytosWHAT
15:17.52Pneumatusunlike sucky dps, sucky healers and sucky tanks get found out pretty fast though
15:18.12Mytossucky healers never get found out
15:18.26Mytosthey get yelled at and then they spam heal and overheal like no tommorrow
15:18.34StickWick37lmao
15:18.46Pneumatusoverhealing doesnt mean dick, as long as you're not going oom
15:18.48Mytosthen demand that they get every innervate in the raid while being cheap and not potting
15:19.22AckisWorknothing wrong with being cheap and not potting :P
15:19.33AckisWorkon farm fights why the hell should I pot? :P
15:19.35Mytosnot when your not goin oom
15:19.48AckisWorkdruid bear tank, shift out between swings and innervate meeeeeeeeeeeee
15:19.48StickWick37I do that on my mage ill admit 8-)
15:19.57StickWick37only im actually oom when I need it
15:19.58Mytoswhen your goin oom in the first 2 minutes of the fight they need slapped in the face
15:20.34charonl2druid.... that way you can be cheap and still have your own innervate
15:20.43StickWick37if your druid tank is dumb enough to go out of bear just because his priest needs an innervate he needs to be slapped
15:20.53foxlitl2raidlead, that way you can be cheap and have two shadow priests
15:20.55Mytosim just jilted, i got gkicked the other day for not innervating the worst healer in the raid in the first 3 minutes of the illidan fight
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15:21.28Pneumatusi'd have done the same
15:21.31selckinmaybe the other healers where slacking
15:21.37AckisWorkonly fight i needed an innervate was m'uru
15:21.52AckisWorkand KJ I guess
15:22.06Pneumatusanyone that ignores our raid leaders orders will get booted from the raid at the very least
15:22.57charonPneumatus: i'd have taken the gkick. any RL that seriously tries to suppress thinking raid members can go to hell
15:23.00Mytosits kinda hard to innervate when its on cooldown because the same noob demanded to have it on trash 4 minutes earlier
15:23.44Mytosi dunno, the guild kinda sucked anyways, im in moonkin badge gear and i was outdpsing the other moonkin wearing double 4piece
15:23.48StickWick37I wouldnt have even used it on trash thats just stupid
15:23.56Pneumatuscharon: maybe sit down and have a discussion about who deserves the innervate most in the middle of a boss fight would be more in order then?
15:24.14AckisWorkyour raid brought 2 moonkins to it? that's the first problem
15:25.06Mytosno, the first problem is im at 1200dmg with 22% crit, neither 4piece bonus, and i was in the top 5 on dps
15:25.45Pneumatuswe've never raided with a boomkin for more than a couple of weeks, as the ones we have trialed have been seriously poor dps, and not worth their utility
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15:25.52selckindps is all about the group you're i
15:26.25Mytosonly if your a mage/warlock really
15:26.32Matrix110uhm no
15:26.39Matrix110Rogues are the most depenand on buffs
15:26.49Mytosshadowpriests help a moonkin, but not much, and finding an eleshaman raiding on this realm is nearly impossible
15:26.49StickWickBoomkins are a class more viable in pvp IMO they're usefull but easily replaceable
15:27.08Matrix110Rogues without Battleshout/Windfury= teh suck
15:27.13Lyn_anyone asked for a raiding ele schammy? :P
15:27.21ramozWhat up with the new spammers!
15:27.42ramozAsk me in PM how im doing, and then offer me gold/powerlvling when i answer
15:28.03Matrix110Ele Shaman has the problem that he doesnt bring anything great to the raid besides Heroism
15:28.11charonPneumatus: quit being ridiculous. i'm just saying i'd rather be in a raid where people are allowed to make their own decisions. it's a raid, not a military organisation
15:28.13Pneumatushe brings nice totems
15:28.16Lyn_Matrix110, you dont have a clue
15:28.22charon(which is precisely why i refuse to call them raid/guild "officers")
15:28.28AckisWorkpeople have been asking me if I"m bob
15:28.30Matrix110The crit Totem is only for one group, while a Retri pala brings it for the whole raid
15:28.43Pneumatuswrath of air
15:28.52Lyn_~50mp5
15:28.55Matrix110Dont need a Elemental Shaman for that :P
15:29.09Matrix110Thats the main problem
15:29.10Lyn_yeah, but you can have one :p
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15:29.39Pneumatusthe utility from an elem shaman is higher than a boomkin tho
15:29.48Mytosi got 50g says matrix is a fury warrior
15:29.50ramozAckisWork is a goldseller!
15:29.54Matrix110Iam a Mage
15:30.02AckisWorkkekek
15:30.15Matrix110Boomkin utility depends on your raid setup
15:30.25Lyn_and you dont like ele shammys? lol
15:30.28Matrix110if you dont have many other druids they might be worth it
15:30.34Matrix110I personally like Ele Shammies
15:30.48Matrix110But a Retri Paladin helps the complete raid more
15:30.54nevcairielIs it just me, or is the wow eu page damn slow?
15:30.55Lyn_only with 3 crit
15:30.56Lyn_thats all
15:31.07Mytosi dunno pneumatus, once your casters are hitcapped which they should be anyways, a moonkin with the epic flight idol is more useful than an eleshams totem of wrath
15:31.09ramoznevcairiel: its 3 crit slow
15:31.36foxlitMytos: regem to accomodate 3% hit
15:31.40Pneumatuswhat do moonkins bring other than their aura?
15:31.49Matrix110Combat Ress
15:31.52Matrix110Innervate
15:31.53Lyn_Pneumatus, feathers
15:31.54nevcairiel3% hit for melees
15:31.55Matrix110MOTW!!!
15:32.03foxlit-2% hit for tanks
15:32.06Lyn_Matrix110, other drudis can do that two
15:32.07Lyn_*tioo
15:32.09Lyn_-i
15:32.17Matrix110Lyn_ thats why I said it depends on your raid setup :P
15:32.20Lyn_;)
15:32.30foxlitLyn_: which isn't interesting. You don't bring balance druids to replace feral/resto druids :)
15:32.51Lyn_foxlit, didnt say that
15:33.15Mytosyou bring moonkins to replace retarded mages and locks that think they can be arcane, frost, demonology, and afflic
15:33.18foxlitthe "other druids can do that too" statement is meaningless without that prefix :)
15:33.32Lyn_foxlit, the prefix was Matrix110 post about motw
15:33.34foxlitCR/IV stack :)
15:33.48Lyn_l2manareg :p
15:34.02StickWickhey! I raid arcane/frost ;_: 02..0.59
15:34.08foxlitYou found a resto specced for motw? :)
15:34.12Lyn_StickWick, i feel sorry for you ;)
15:34.20Lyn_foxlit, yeah, enough
15:34.35StickWickwhy lol I like raiding like that. I tried arcane/fire and hated it
15:34.48Matrix110You are raiding with Frost spec
15:34.52Lyn_StickWick, was just kidding :)
15:34.54Matrix110Arcane/Frost is completly different
15:35.08Mytos2 points doesnt make it arcane frost dude
15:35.21Mytosand id bet those two points are wasted on something that serves no purpose
15:35.27Matrix110Arcane/Frost is only viable if you have a Frostmage in the raid because he has to leech Winterschill to deal dmg
15:35.30StickWickyeah they are not gonna lie
15:37.03Mytosi never saw the point in putting more than 45-47 points into a tree, thats just bloating
15:37.18Matrix110well it depends
15:37.18AckisWork20/20/21 is better amiright?
15:37.28Matrix110For leveling you could stuff everything in Frost easily :P
15:37.28Lyn_1/33/7 > all
15:37.52Mytosim saying in terms of being 70, and doing anything endgame, either pve or pvp
15:38.07Mytosif i see someone with more than 50 points in a tree i just wanna slap them
15:38.14charonswoosh
15:38.25AckisWorklol charon
15:38.32Lyn_the new draenei idle animation is so lol
15:38.37Ellipsisnothing funnier than seeing a rogue fight with one warglaive /sigh
15:39.32Matrix110Well Mytos you often cant get something usefull in another tree and skill sometime thats of use when grinding orso :P
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15:40.18Matrix110*something
15:41.18Gnarfozwww.freedom-not-fear.eu
15:41.48Lyn_lol thunderstorm is funny
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15:48.20Lyn_hahahaha 5 rhinos are flying away
15:48.21Lyn_hahaa
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15:59.33Trell-clad|away: ping
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16:01.53steevi saw a 67 arms warrior with every point in arms
16:02.22Zyndromeand he was using his legs
16:02.24Zyndrome*ba-dom-tiss*
16:02.52JerleMinarano
16:02.53JerleMinaraleave
16:02.57JerleMinarabanishes Zyndrome
16:03.03Zyndrome:(
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16:03.38KriLL3stuck on retrieving characters :(
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16:06.03Tifihello, is there a way to make (spell) links clickable in an acegui-3.0 label/fontstring?
16:06.50Tifii tried :EnableMouse(1) on the parent frame, but it didn't help
16:08.01Trell-clad|away: pretty please ping
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16:11.02Trell-knowing nothing about lua in the sliughtest
16:11.04Trell-*slightest
16:11.16Trell-how would this: UnitManaMax("player") be modified to get hit rating instead?
16:14.10Tifihttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRating
16:14.30syerenLyn_, what's the new Draenei Idle animation?
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16:15.32GnarfozZyndrome: for you, to bookmark: http://www.instantrimshot.com/
16:15.49Zyndromeoh snap
16:16.56Gnarfoz:D
16:17.06AckisWork<PROTECTED>
16:17.07AckisWorkkeke
16:17.10Gnarfozalso very good to keep handy: http://www.sadtrombone.com/
16:17.21GnarfozAckisWork: your FingerPrints order has been received. :p
16:17.31sbAckisWork: giev :/
16:18.12AckisWorklol
16:20.06Lyn_syeren, its a kind of... its fugly, this animation normally only should have DKs ... but atm everyone has it
16:20.55Lyn_cant describe it, searching vid wait
16:21.28Lyn_syeren, http://www.dysdaera.net/random/wow/wrath_beta/epadoa_idle.gif
16:21.49syeren>_>
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16:22.37Lyn_sweet isnt it :x
16:22.45CIA-4503ackis * r80489 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua:
16:22.45CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
16:22.45CIA-45- Fix ticket 41 (spelling error in localization)
16:22.45CIA-45>lua print("Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p)")
16:22.56nevcairielnow you failed
16:23.00AckisWorkyes I did
16:23.01Stanzillaagain
16:23.28Gnarfozlol
16:23.51AckisWorkat least I make your days amusing
16:23.52AckisWork:P
16:23.55foxlitwhy the bother with luac, by the way?
16:24.00syerenLyn_, it's Sad how much better the Korean artists are than the US ones.
16:24.00foxlitlua works just as well :)
16:24.01syerenhttp://www.dysdaera.net/random/wow/wrath_beta/ek_load.jpg
16:24.08ObelixprimeLyn_ that's sort of hot
16:24.14syerenThe first Dwarf Female art I have ever seen which is official.
16:24.19Lyn_hahaha
16:24.22AckisWorkfoxlit: just to check for typos ie: function -> fucntion
16:24.32foxlitAckisWork: lua works just as well
16:24.41Lyn_syeren, the blood elf is hot :p
16:24.44Gnarfozlua doesn't have -c?
16:24.55AckisWorkfoxlit: I didn't think it did
16:25.00syerenI just want the full art of the female Dwarf.
16:25.04Gnarfozerr -p
16:25.09Gnarfozand yes, it doesn't
16:25.10syerenWonder wear the Korean artist portfolios are.
16:25.14Gnarfozat least on my win32 binaries
16:25.15foxlitSo?
16:25.23foxlitIt parses the file before it executes it :)
16:25.36AckisWorkI don't want to execute it
16:25.38Gnarfozand which one do you think is easier to use? :D
16:25.40AckisWorkexecution = errors
16:25.43Gnarfozand intended for what AckisWork does? :D
16:25.54nevcairielluac -p is only parsing, so why bother with lua ? =P
16:26.03Gnarfozhe can't execute it sucessfully anyway, because of all the wow api stuff
16:26.07AckisWorknevcairiel I thought you were busy! :P haheheh
16:26.31foxlitnev: "c -p", and I'm lazy :)
16:27.01nevcairielthats why you script those things!
16:28.36KriLL3is there a way to make wow into a window prior to getting into the game? I'm stuck at retrieving character list and I don't want it full screen at a low res screwing up my screens
16:28.49GnarfozKriLL3: edit the config
16:29.05KriLL3I need more of a hint than that
16:29.07Gnarfozadd a line: SET gxWindowed "1"
16:29.32Gnarfoz(at least I think that's it, from memory - look it up on wowwiki to make sure)
16:29.35CIA-4503ackis * r80490 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
16:29.35CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
16:29.35CIA-45- Update onload Wrath compatibility message
16:29.35CIA-45lua> print("Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p)")
16:29.35lua_botCIA-45: Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p)
16:29.44AckisWorkI fail less now
16:30.00Gnarfozfunny how that bot doesn't ignore CIA
16:30.08GnarfozI sense a return of ~botwar
16:30.11AckisWorkpurl doesn't lua doesn't
16:30.20AckisWorkit makes my commit notes more fun
16:30.27nevcairielor more spam
16:30.35Gnarfozwhich is essentially interchangeable
16:30.40Gnarfozd:)
16:30.46AckisWorkpfft
16:32.19Obelixprimehave they transferred the code base to curseforge yet?
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16:33.35Trell-anyone other than clad|away familiar with DressToKill?
16:34.42ObelixprimeI always dress to kill
16:35.15KriLL3Gnarfoz: SET gxWindow "1"
16:35.20KriLL3thx anyway :)
16:35.24GnarfozKriLL3: almost got it ;>
16:35.34KriLL3found it in my BC install's config
16:35.54Trell-well, I set the following codes up: http://pastebin.com/m13341a39 - the first one, just hit rating, seems to work fine, however, the second and third seem to think that Philosophers Stone is better than both Bloodlust Brooch and Hourglass of the Unraveller.
16:35.59Lyn_http://www.wegame.com/watch/WotLK_Shaman_Elemental_Ultimate_Thunderstorm/ so funny :P
16:36.11Trell-if anyone has any ideas, I'd be glad to hear them
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16:37.41KriLL3I'm stuck on "Retrieving character list" :(
16:40.07KriLL3I really wish wow didn't default to that really low res and fullscreen mode, wreaks havoc on multi display setups :(
16:40.30TifiTrell-, why do you use GetCritChance?
16:40.59Tifiinstead of GetCombatRating(CR_CRIT_MELEE)
16:41.43Gnarfozbecause one gives you the actual chance, taking into account your current level, while the other gives you the rating?
16:41.46Gnarfoz(guessing)
16:42.09AckisWorkhow does that refer a friend leveling thing work?
16:42.21AckisWorkfor granting levels that is
16:44.43TifiGnarfoz, sure, but the line is #
16:44.43Tifilocal critrating = GetCritChance()
16:44.50Gnarfozduh
16:44.52Gnarfoz:x
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16:48.55IndustrialHow do i request the Shadow Damage stat?
16:50.12Tifihttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellBonusDamage
16:50.29Industrialty
16:50.47IndustrialI was trying UnitStat
16:54.55AeyanCan you modify a server-stored cvar with an addon? Not really sure what permissions we have, heh.
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16:55.29KriLL3is there a reason why there are only 2 servers and the EU one is in the US?...
16:55.50JerleMinarabecause blizzard hates french people
16:55.55KriLL3you'd think they'd get better testing done if the server wasn't getting pummeled
16:56.09KriLL3JerleMinara: Europe has a lot more nationalities than frenchies
16:56.11Josh_Borkebecause they don't have developers in europ?
16:56.16JerleMinarathey do?!
16:56.18JerleMinarawow
16:56.30JerleMinara:P
16:56.35selckinits only the germans and frenchies that refuse to talk english tho
16:56.42selckinand hence the target of all hate
16:56.50KriLL3actually they're better than many other nations
16:56.55Aeyanand the swedes
16:56.56KriLL3like bulgaria
16:56.58selckinso they need their own little server
16:57.00JerleMinarai think the big issue at work here is that beta is not for testin
16:57.00JerleMinarag
16:57.03JerleMinarait's for hype
16:57.04AeyanWith all their swedeing
16:57.08JerleMinaraeveryone knows that
16:57.12Josh_Borkeuh huh
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16:57.18JerleMinarathat's why it's not that crucial to get an EU server "for testing" :P
16:57.21Lyn_oh no
16:57.26Lyn_now the french/german hating in here?
16:57.36Lyn_i have enough of it in beta.. dont need it here
16:57.40AeyanIt's always been here
16:57.52selckinits like rickroll
16:57.57selckineveryone hates it, but its there non the less
16:58.15KriLL3rickrolling is dead
16:58.43Tifi...but its there non the less
16:58.49selckinit was just an example like DIRGE and crap
16:59.48KriLL3let me guess, the beta server is like this all day?
16:59.58Lyn_yes
17:00.01selckinevery day
17:00.18KriLL3does it get better 03:00 or something like that?
17:00.34Lyn_all day long some germans who cant speak english (too old or too young for learning it) and then there are the english mens who comes with their harassm
17:00.58JerleMinarabeta server has been broken since build 8788 came out
17:01.05JerleMinaraactually make that 8770
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17:01.57Gnarfozyea...
17:01.57Zyndromeand Blood Aura untalenting itself every login on DK :<
17:02.21Lyn_unholy aura too
17:02.39Gnarfozckknight: do you know in which file PitBull does the actual creating of frames?
17:02.49clad|awayTrell-: did you get your question answered/
17:02.50ckknightPitBull.lua
17:02.55Gnarfozk
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17:05.12Gnarfozckknight: these (PitBull.lua:828) frame = CreateFrame("Cooldown", name, parent, "CooldownFrameTemplate")  are each aura's cooldown dials? (yeah, poking random questions is fun :D)
17:05.25ckknightyea
17:05.32Gnarfozcool
17:06.11Gnarfoztoo bad the guy who was asking if PitBull could suppress OmniCC on those frames quit before I could tell him how he could hack it so that it would :D
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17:06.37ag`Gnarfoz, how would you supress it? :P
17:07.13Ellipsisum, he should just set his omnicc's minimum size higher
17:07.35Gnarfozag`: by setting frame.noCooldownCount
17:07.50ag`ok
17:08.09ag`yeah, omnicc should control that with size thingy :D
17:08.11ag`dunno
17:08.17Gnarfozwhich omnicc obeys when it sees it. CDC also does so, I think.
17:08.47Gnarfozag`: btw, is that OmniCC showing 56min durations on all auras @ wotlk branch of ag_UF or ag_UF itself?
17:10.45ag`Gnarfoz, fixed
17:10.59Gnarfozag`: <3
17:11.04ag`someone posted a fix on the forums I think
17:11.12ag`and it worked
17:11.18Gnarfoz*grabs and commits*
17:11.31GnarfozI don't frequent SMF forums much :D
17:11.38ag`commits what
17:11.39ag`SMF?
17:11.43Gnarfozthe forum software
17:11.50ag`ok :P
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17:16.19Trell-cladhaire; ping
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17:18.05cladhaireTrell-: pong
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17:23.54NeoTron"Disengage now causes the Hunter to jump back instantly 10-15ish yards to gain distance. 30 second cooldown."
17:24.17NeoTronthat's pretty cool if you ask me
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17:24.50selckinhuntard blink
17:24.52selckinlol
17:24.54ZiconI just know this means I will be throwing myself off cliffs every bloody time I touch my hunter.
17:25.58DashkalI _so_ can't wait to see a hunter cliff himself :p
17:26.11NeoTronhehe
17:27.20cladhaireTrell-: you can't ping me, and then run away
17:27.27cladhaireits illegal
17:27.41Obelixprimecladhaire; ping
17:27.54cladhaireNO PONG FOR YOU
17:27.55AckisWorkwhat about a poke and run?
17:28.02selckinpokes AckisWork in the eye
17:28.03selckinruns
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17:32.51Dashkalactually, I'm wondering how long until I cliff myself with kitty charge
17:33.39fewynkitty charge is awesome
17:33.44fewynnot a fan of the animation tho
17:34.04NeoTronkitty charge = demon leap = heroic leap pretty much
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17:34.16NeoTronsame idea at least
17:34.40fewynyea
17:34.50NeoTrondemon leap is fun as heck
17:34.54NeoTronbut pretty useless honestly
17:35.04NeoTronsince I target sometinhg, press the button, and jump right past them
17:35.16NeoTronit's like a blink
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17:35.52fewynI think Dispersion should get a threat dropping ability tied into it.
17:35.57fewynSince Fade is useless imo.
17:36.10ObelixprimeIs threat really going to be an issue?
17:36.12selckinget a better tank
17:36.25NeoTronthere are situation where threat is an issue
17:36.26Obelixprimewith like 55% from shadow affinity and shadow form?
17:36.28fewynno idea, i have had threat issues in the past and I'd like to have an ability to drop a small amount of threat
17:36.33NeoTronprimarily fights like M'uru when adds come all the time
17:36.34nevcairielNeoTron: yeah its kinda stupid, you aggro them half-way, they run towards you, and you miss them :D
17:36.53fewynWe'll see tho
17:36.57NeoTronapparently heroic leap has the same problem. guess kitty does too
17:37.12fewynGotta wait until the cap is bumped to 80 and we can see Naxx
17:37.17fewynthen i'll see if threat is an issue
17:37.26NeoTronso I tried some Unholy and Frost spec DK last night. I think both will have uses but definitely not for leveling
17:37.40fewynBlood imo
17:37.43fewynis awesome
17:37.50selckinmy slave is only lvl 65 on the dk :(
17:37.52Obelixprimewe'll, although they arae getting rid of salvation as a static buff we are gaining it in shadowform
17:38.23fewynyea
17:38.23Obelixprimeso its like a permanent salv now
17:38.28fewynbut i always had salv anyways
17:38.34fewynand i still had threat issues sometimes
17:38.48Obelixprimethey are reworking threat mechanics too
17:38.52Obelixprimeso yeah, gotta wait and see
17:39.09Obelixprimeimprove the coefficient of fade?
17:39.10fewynYea but it stands right now I'd love to see threat reducing while dispersion is used >_>
17:39.18fewynIt's awesome as it is tho
17:39.25fewynfree 36% health and mana
17:39.29fewynevery 3 minutes
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17:39.43selckinask for it in feedback! (like they ever read those)
17:39.58Obelixprimewhat's feedback?
17:40.02Obelixprimethe human racial :P?
17:40.07fewynI'm thinking about writing a post right now selckin =p
17:40.40NeoTronUnholy seems to be more AoE/pet specific
17:40.48NeoTronespecially AoE which is pretty useless while soloing
17:41.19IndustrialLyn_: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10382-oUF_Industrial.html
17:41.45NeoTronfor raid DPS I am not sure - I suspect frost will do really well once tweaked and fixed up
17:42.30Arrowmasternevcairiel: http://pastey.net/93902
17:42.43Lyn_Industrial, :O
17:43.31Lyn_Industrial, did you watch the vid I've posted? about the ele ultimate?
17:43.37IndustrialI based it off of oUF_Classic  but theres not much of it left :P
17:43.38Industrialwhat vid?
17:43.44JerleMinaramy blizzcon ticket auction just hit 1000 dollars
17:43.45JerleMinara:D
17:44.03Lyn_Industrial, wait
17:44.09Industrialwaits
17:44.17Lyn_Industrial, http://www.wegame.com/watch/WotLK_Shaman_Elemental_Ultimate_Thunderstorm/
17:44.19Lyn_:P
17:44.35cladhaireTrell-: I'm away now, PM me and I'll answer your question
17:44.41Lyn_made it 2 hours ago ... the thunderstorm is funny
17:44.43cladhairei'll bbiaf
17:44.52nevcairielArrowmaster: did they change all the maps or what?
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17:45.59IndustrialLyn_: yeah that'd be a piece of cake for me if I didnt sell my gear
17:46.06Lyn_lol
17:46.09Lyn_oh ^^
17:46.10Arrowmasternevcairiel: i dont know, i was just having some fun with kagaro's ruby scripts for reading dbc files
17:46.24Lyn_but I didn't expect that thunderstorm does 3,3k crits oO
17:46.30IndustrialI sold all my gear and went lol enh rocks! and then it was boring and now im in greens
17:46.33Industrialfail!
17:46.41Lyn_:)
17:46.47nevcairielArrowmaster: ah, i already have most of that data, except sholazar
17:46.57nevcairieland actually, i enjoy discovering the zones =P
17:47.00kagaroArrowmaster: did you update your svn checkout? I added the binmode for windows
17:47.22Arrowmasternevcairiel: so that probably needs cleaned up like to omit the stuff thats not really textures
17:47.23Industrialbut yeah with trinkets and procs i guess you can get it that high :D they changed LB coefficients I think. it hits for way more now.
17:47.28AckisWorkArrowmaster: isn't that stuff fun? :D
17:47.47Arrowmasterkagaro: i already had it in my local copy, havent updated yet
17:47.54nevcairielArrowmaster: my druid has the full world discovered, short of the mentioned sholazar and the missing zones :)
17:47.59Industrialwith only 700 spellpower im getting 2.6k crits on lightning bolt
17:48.03Lyn_yeah, non crit on beta is 1.950 ... on live 1.750
17:48.07nevcairielso thats not a issue anymore =P
17:48.13Lyn_200 more for same amount of dmg
17:48.42NeoTronI thought they were supposed to make lighting bolt scale less since CoE affects it now?
17:49.04IndustrialLyn_: http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/xamth
17:49.18Lyn_NeoTron, coe doesnt affect it afaik, but the new moonkin debuff does
17:49.23NeoTronit does
17:49.25IndustrialLyn_: I have the ZA staff tho that does about 500 healing total, havent got it equipped dunno why :P
17:49.26Lyn_really?
17:49.28NeoTronyes
17:49.32nevcairielis it arcane or nature?
17:49.36Lyn_nature
17:49.48nevcairielcoe affects nature now? That will make moonkins happy
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17:50.03NeoTronCurses the target for 5 min, reducing Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature, and Shadow resistances by 165 and increasing Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature and Shadow damage taken by 10%.
17:50.13Lyn_Industrial, :x gogo pvp more dd gear
17:50.19Lyn_that is hot
17:50.22Lyn_thx for the info
17:50.25Industrial(I am resto on live)
17:50.44Lyn_but afaik LB scales better now because they changed some talents
17:51.04Industrialyes, and 70% pushback ignore <3333
17:51.10Lyn_<33
17:51.11Lyn_yeah
17:51.13Lyn_its sexy
17:51.15NeoTronone thing that makes shammies powerful in smaller groups is that they can do good damage without full raid debuff support
17:51.28NeoTroni.e on M'uru they often top dps on door adds because of lack of synergy effects
17:51.37Lyn_and now ele is a really good supporter for the whole raid
17:51.37NeoTronwhere a warlock lose out a lot w/o the synergy factor
17:51.48NeoTronofc they are reworking pushback
17:51.55Lyn_totems - raidwide, debuff with 6% crit dmg and some other things i cant remmeber (elemental oath)
17:52.04NeoTronnot sure how but perhaps so that it reduces the "effect" of the pushbacks by X percent
17:52.29NeoTron<PROTECTED>
17:52.30thulhmm, what is the addon that calculates damage and prints on buttons called?
17:52.31NeoTronwill only need one
17:52.37NeoTronDrDamage
17:52.38Lyn_thul, dr damage
17:52.39selckindrdamage ?
17:52.49thulah, thanks
17:53.13selckinanyone keep any raw recent combatlog publicly?
17:53.24fewynhow recent?
17:53.30selckin2.4.3+
17:53.33NeoTronhow raw?
17:53.42fewynyes i can upload one for you selckin
17:53.44NeoTronand of course, how public?
17:53.47selckinwowcombatlog.txt ! with blood dripping
17:54.05fewyni have one from last friday somewhere
17:54.09selckinfewyn: would be great
17:54.53IndustrialLyn_: I'm very pleased with spellpower. it will mean elemental shamans dont need to swap gear or shit to heal a group. granted healing talents are nice but not needed for 5mans while leveling up. you can just advertise as healer AND dps :-)
17:55.07NeoTronWednesday: M'uru 5-8 phase 2 attempts, Thursday: best attempt, m'uru phase 1 40% :(
17:55.28Lyn_yeah thats so cool
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17:55.40IndustrialNeoTron: oh and instead of -10% we now get -30% threat
17:55.56selckini'll take it
17:55.59IndustrialNeoTron: since elem shammies can reach tank threat thats AESOM :P
17:56.00NeoTronIndustrial: the way locks get more threat reduction is to do less damage..
17:56.00Lyn_i saw a t6 priest with his t6 holy gear.. it does so much spell power... oO he didnt need to change anything
17:56.21IndustrialLyn_: yup :P
17:56.24NeoTronLyn_: t6 holy gear has more spell power than t6 shadow gear
17:56.30IndustrialLyn_: just smite poof enemy dead
17:56.44NeoTronjust slightly. but less other stats
17:56.47Lyn_NeoTron, LOL
17:57.13Lyn_the guy was fully socket with the heal/spirit gems.. which are now 6 dmg/5 spirit
17:57.14sbnah Industrial, spec to shadow with holy gear
17:57.23Lyn_he only need to respec
17:57.30Pneumatusi leveled 70-77 specced holy in my raid gear, and was 2shotting the starting zone mobs
17:57.47fewynselckin: http://fewyn.net/wws-2008-08-08-23-52.zip
17:57.49Lyn_and, I HOPE blizzard will add the second tree for switching (with cd 30-60 min, only in towns or whatever) .. that would be sooo cool
17:57.58fewynthat's from friday night's BT
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17:58.15IndustrialLyn_: what? :p
17:58.20NeoTronPneumatus: so.. you do more dps than warlocks/
17:58.33NeoTronI didn't two shot anything in the starting zone even as destruction
17:58.39NeoTronlike they died fast but nowhere near two shot
17:58.42Lyn_i have read that blizzard wants to put in an alternative talent spec which you can switch for farming or so..
17:58.48Pneumatuswell, in the starting zones a holy fire+smite was killing most mobs
17:58.51Lyn_dunno if its true
17:58.54Lyn_but would be awesome
17:58.55selckin~fewyn++
17:58.59selckinfewyn: thanks
17:58.59Lyn_especially for hybrids
17:59.03NeoTronmost mobs there have like 8-9k health
17:59.13IndustrialLyn_: what tree? cooldown?
17:59.23Pneumatusyey, holy fire hits for about 4k
17:59.24Industrialoh hm that would be cool
17:59.26Lyn_like 2 specs with cd on it
17:59.33Industrialah coool :D
17:59.36NeoTronPneumatus: non-crit?
17:59.38Lyn_dunno exactly what they want to do and how
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17:59.38Industriallike pvp/pve
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17:59.41Industrial:O
17:59.46Lyn_yeah or tanking/healing or so
17:59.51Industrialnice
18:00.10PneumatusNeoTron: something like that, i cant check now though due to being 77
18:00.14Lyn_it would be cool with .. 60 min cd and only switch in towns or so.. cause instances in wotlk doesnt last longer than 60 minutes
18:00.17NeoTronPneumatus:
18:00.18fewynI think this will be my level 80 build for my shadow priest http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bVMhzbZZGcfVoizcVqizAo
18:00.19NeoTronerr
18:00.28NeoTronPneumatus: and now you hit for less, crit for less and do overall less dmg :P
18:00.31Lyn_but i am not sure if it was right what i saw about the 2. spec thingy
18:00.54selckineverytime i dinged my damage went down and the mob got stronger
18:00.55Throngyis there any tool to detect unused libs? i need to do some spring cleaning of my addons folder :/
18:01.00selckinno new ranks of any damage spell either
18:01.09selckinit felt so counter productive
18:01.09NeoTronmain reason to reroll deathknight: to not see your dps and damage output drop through the floor when leveling
18:01.46NeoTronBC: Your stats (crit and such) might have dropped but DPS overall went up due to new abilties and talents
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18:02.11Pneumatussurge of light makes levelling holy priest nice and easy also, free smites after 50% of spell crits
18:02.12NeoTronWotLK: Your stats drop twice as fast, your dps actually goes down and you don't gain a lot of health or anything
18:02.46NeoTronit seems a bit assbackwards atm
18:03.10NeoTronlike going back to do SWP at level 80 and doing worse DPS (unless raid synergy makes up for it)
18:03.16Pneumatusi've gained something like 2k mana unbuffed from 70-77 though
18:03.23Fisker-you don't NeoTron
18:03.24Fisker-baww
18:03.26Pneumatusbut some of that will be through gear swaps
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18:04.15NeoTronwith swp gear I doubt there will be many upgrades at all for most of the leveling process
18:04.33Fisker-obviously not
18:04.47Fisker-there's not even that much upgrades if you are T5-T6 geared
18:04.53NeoTronand new abilities, currently, do not make up for the loss of stats
18:05.15Pneumatusfor T6/Badge level gear, you will start upgrading with blues in the 76/77 area
18:05.43Pneumatusid imagine swp gear will be upgraded by 80 blues
18:05.47NeoTronpoint is, WotLK will be a bit depressing for high tier raiders
18:05.55NeoTronmore so than BC I mean
18:06.06Pneumatusthe first raid tier will replace anything from BC though, im sure
18:06.21NeoTronyes
18:06.23NeoTronfor sure
18:06.30NeoTronthose BS crafted weapons are insane
18:06.42Pneumatusi consider wotlk to be LESS depressing than BC was, as i wont be upgrading T2/T3 epics with level 62 greens
18:06.45NeoTronthe spell dmg one alone being 460ish dmg (pally tank mace!)
18:07.06NeoTronPneumatus: with depressing I mean seeing mob having more health, hitting harder while you do less and less damage
18:07.31selckinNeoTron: does it have nice melee stats too?
18:07.51Pneumatuslots of spells/abilities still need balancing anyway
18:07.51selckinmelee weapon might be better now with the new ability
18:08.05Pneumatussome classes havnt even been looked at since the intial talents were set in alpha
18:08.15NeoTronselckin: it's a BS weapon
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18:08.20NeoTronno one but a pally would use it
18:08.35NeoTronhttp://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/titansteelguardianv2.jpg
18:08.49NeoTronwell I think it's supposed to be BS only at least
18:08.52Pneumatuspriests, for example, got their initial talent setup, had a tiny bit of fiddling around in alpha and havnt been touched since
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18:09.36NeoTronI think it's fair to say that going down in DPS when gaining 10 levels is a bad design choice though
18:09.52NeoTronyou should never get less powerful while gaining levels
18:09.54StanzillaPneumatus: a blue post said they are mostly done with priests^^
18:10.00selckinits the damn ratig system
18:10.04PneumatusStanzilla: link pls
18:10.08CIA-4503sylvanaar * r80494 10EnhancedLFG/core.lua: EnhancedLFG: Fix scrolling problem on the who panel
18:10.13NeoTronthe rating decay is rough
18:10.26Pneumatusyeh, its the rating system, where your hit/crit/haste/etc get sucked into oblivion
18:10.28NeoTronI haven't looked but with the change of ratings are the new gems actually _better_ or just the same?
18:10.51StanzillaPneumatus: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/6/8557152613-is-priest-development-finished-for-wotlk.html
18:11.08Tifidoes anyone know if a mob's enrage is always a buff?
18:11.16NeoTronok so the new epic gems are actually worse it seems
18:11.18Pneumatusthey havnt even bloody done anything with priests to consider them finished
18:11.27NeoTronthey have 2x the value of ratings, but I think the decay is like 107%
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18:11.31Pneumatuschanged a few spells to be base mana, added a few talents and they consider that done?!
18:11.32NeoTronso they are relatively speaking weaker
18:12.09CIA-4503profalbert * r80495 10Parrot/Code/TriggerConditions.lua:
18:12.09CIA-45Parrot:
18:12.10CIA-45fix bug in uid-calculation for triggers
18:12.24StanzillaPneumatus: yes its hilarious
18:13.11Pneumatushow many new spells did other classes get, i mean completely new
18:13.34Trell-Pneumatus; 273.
18:14.03Trell-in all seriousness though, Rogues aren't done yet either
18:14.09Trell-nor Warriors, apparently
18:14.22nevcairielwith talents? Druids get 6-7 spells or so =P
18:14.52Pneumatusi mean available to all talents nevcairiel
18:15.05nevcairielhm
18:15.11Lyn_Industrial, i am currently depressed... cause live wow doesnt make fun anymore :x
18:15.14nevcairiel4 then, i think
18:15.36Pneumatuspriests got 2: Mind Sear, and Divine Hymn (which we can't even get yet, as its a level 80 spell)
18:15.47Lyn_Pneumatus, including talent ultimates or without?
18:15.58Pneumatuswithout, Lyn_
18:16.08Lyn_mh.. earthliving weapon... lavaburst, hex
18:16.09Pneumatusits fair to assume each class got 3 new spells from their 51 point talents
18:16.12Lyn_3 i think for shaman
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18:18.17Lyn_i will dont miss burning crusade... hate outland
18:18.22CheadsPneumatus do you mean new skills including those that require talents?
18:18.33Lyn_Cheads, without
18:18.34PneumatusDruids just got Savage Roar and Nourish?
18:18.56Cheads<PROTECTED>
18:19.06Lyn_why?
18:19.11Lyn_x+3 = y
18:19.16Lyn_and pneumatus want to know x
18:19.43PneumatusHunters got Bear Trap and Kill Shot
18:19.48Pneumatusmaybe everyone just got 2
18:19.53Cheadsthen there's no need for the talent skills
18:20.03Lyn_oO;
18:20.44Cheadsdruids also got revive
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18:22.03Cheadshunters got master's call, kill shot and bear trap
18:22.23Pneumatusmages are cleary overpowered they got Teleport: Dalaran, Portal: Dalaran, Conjour Water (10 and 11), Conjour Food (9 and 10), Frostfire Bolt, Conjour Mana Gem (6)
18:22.39Pneumatusand probably some others!
18:22.53CheadsFrostfire Bolt !! =)
18:23.28CheadsDeath Knight clearly got the most new skills =)
18:24.01Pneumatuswowheads class skills listing is a bit dicked up i think
18:24.27Cheadspaladins got 5: Divine Plea, Sacred Shield, Shield of Righteousness, Seal of Corruption and Seal of the Martyr
18:25.04Pneumatusthey also got all their new seal/judge spells
18:25.07Lyn_frostfire bolt looks sooooo sweet
18:25.10Pneumatusdue to the mechanic jiggery
18:25.24CheadsPriests 3: Divine Hymn, Mark of Divinity, Mind Sear
18:26.03CIA-4503ackis * r80496 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-deDE.lua:
18:26.03CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
18:26.03CIA-45- deDE update thanks to Darugo
18:26.03CIA-45- Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p)
18:26.08CheadsRogues 2: dismantle, fan on knives
18:27.18Cheadswarlock 5: summon demonic circle, teleport demonic circle, Grand Firestone, Grand spellstone Shadowflame.. hmmmm really just new ranks and a 2in1 =)
18:27.32Cheads+ shadowflame =)
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18:27.46Lyn_for what do you need demonic circle..
18:28.03Cheadsto teleport to it
18:28.08Lyn_its like guardian totem
18:28.09Lyn_:x
18:28.13Arrowmasterits a gimmic type thing
18:28.25Arrowmasterthat will end up nerfed or removed i bet due to pvp
18:28.30Cheadsyou can summon it somewhere.. then move from it.. and then teleport back to it
18:28.36Pneumatuswarriors got Shield Break, but i cant even work out what else they have thats new
18:28.46Cheadspvp thing that will be abused in pve
18:29.13Cheadswarriors 3: Bloodbath, Enraged Assault, Shield Break
18:29.20Arrowmasteri wonder how far it works and how long it lasts
18:29.56Cheadsright now you can teleport to it from 40yards away
18:30.03Cheads..according to the tooltip
18:30.07Arrowmaster....
18:30.56Dashkalif it doesn't render you briefly immune to CC it's a bit of a lol... hunter trap on the circle.
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18:34.34PrimerHrmm, I thought that #show Item Name would work for a macro button, even if you didn't have the item in your bags
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18:35.12Ellipsismaybe if it's cached
18:35.30PrimerI made a macro for using health stones
18:35.42Primersince we have locks with each kind
18:36.01Ellipsisdid you try #show itemid?
18:36.03Tifiit starts working when you get your first hs
18:36.26Tifiitemid is flawed because there are different hs =/
18:36.32PrimerNo I didn't, but let me see if it continues to work once I have the first one
18:36.42Ellipsisit's not flawed if all you want is the icon
18:36.45Primeryeah, /use Master Healthstone works for any of the 3
18:40.12dafire~seen haste
18:40.15purlhaste is currently on #wowuidev. Has said a total of 91 messages. Is idling for 11h 37m 46s, last said: 'fili'.
18:40.48Tifii believe #show Master Healthstone just uses the itemid of the first hs you get
18:41.08Ellipsisit doesn't matter which one it's using
18:41.22Ellipsis#show only gives it an icon and cooldown, both of which are identical on all ranks of HS
18:41.31Tifiit's not perfect either; as soon as you use this hs, the icon is "greyed out"
18:41.48Tifieven if you have another one in your bags
18:41.57Primerhrmm
18:42.00KriLL3the server is having a nervous breakdown
18:42.01Ellipsisnot if you do a #show by name
18:42.09Ellipsisit will find the next item called Master Healthstone
18:42.18KriLL3I tried some DK while waiting for my 70 to copy, and man, it's like dialup
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18:47.53TifiEllipsis, /use does find the next one, but #show doesn't
18:48.44EllipsisI've never had that problem
18:49.34Gnarfozwhat do you need #show for
18:49.35cladhaire<PROTECTED>
18:49.40cladhaire<PROTECTED>
18:49.43Gnarfozjust use "?" icon and /use whatever
18:49.47Gnarfozit'll update anyway?
18:50.05fewynAnyone notice that /use 13 and /use 14 no longer use trinkets?
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18:50.09fewyndid they change the numbers?
18:50.24Pneumatuson beta?
18:50.57PrimerGnarfoz: except it shows the "?" when you don't have it
18:51.00Primerthe item
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18:51.14GnarfozPrimer: yeah, probably. alerting you to the need to get a health stone :D
18:51.23fewynyea beta Pneumatus
18:52.42cladhaireTrell-: this works brilliantly with GlosetGnome :P
18:53.00Pneumatusi'd check myself, but id need my character list to load first :<
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18:57.42Lyn_any beta rogues here? is it fun? or is it shit as rogue? -.-
18:59.56Trell-cladhaire; info please!
19:00.01Trell-since I use ClosetGnome too
19:00.08Trell-Lyn_; I got bored
19:00.17Trell-and decided to level my shammy instead, who you instanced with :P
19:00.25dieckhm. Can't i set expressions in AceLocale3? I tried to evaluate CHAT_MSG_LOOT, and tried to "syndicate" from CT RaidAssist :) but every time I try to access L['CML receives ps'] I get an error "Missing entry for CML receives ps from AceLocale-3.0
19:00.29dieckL['ITEMREG'] = "(|c%x+|Hitem:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:(%-?%d+):(%-?%d+)|h%[.-%]|h|r)%";
19:00.33dieckL['CML receives ps'] = "([^%s]+) receives loot: "..L['ITEMREG'].."."; -- some player, single item
19:00.42Lyn_yeah somehow rogue sucks
19:00.45cladhaireTrell-: nothign to know.. its just an easy to way add and retrieve sets
19:00.46cladhaireheh
19:00.59Trell-mmm I'm gonna have to look into adding sets with it then
19:01.05KaeltenMoonWolf: ping
19:01.12Arrowmastervictory! Enhanced Newbie Package 2.4 has been deleted from Curse!
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19:01.31KaeltenArrowmaster: ?
19:01.37GnarfozArrowmaster: /applaud
19:01.44CIA-4503endeavour * r80497 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua):
19:01.44CIA-45BossTalk:
19:01.44CIA-45- fixed UnitPopup[] (thanks to Mokilok EU Frostmourne for reporting)
19:01.44CIA-45- Credit updates (Again, Mokilok EU Frostmourne)
19:01.44CIA-45- WotLK preparation
19:01.48ArrowmasterKaelten: http://wow.curseforge.com/admin/activities/project-7143-enhanced-newbie/
19:02.01MoonWolfKaelten, me ?
19:02.24KaeltenMoonWolf: um... think so
19:02.26Kaeltenhrm nope moonwitch
19:02.28Kaeltenso sorry
19:02.29dieckArrowmaster: 403 Action Forbidden :)
19:02.30MoonWolfthought so
19:02.32MoonWolfno problem
19:02.32Kaeltenhrm
19:02.38Kaelten~seen moonwitch
19:02.40purlmoonwitch <n=Kay@83.101.31.164> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 25d 4h 7m 52s ago, saying: 'only good thing is that I can just change the realmlist.wtf (and probably config.wtf too)'.
19:02.42Arrowmasterdieck: because that link is for mods/admins only
19:03.05Kaeltencan anyone http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14581.msg237120#msg237120 verify this?
19:03.20dieckArrowmaster: my url tracker in irssi just said so :)
19:03.46Kaeltenheh
19:04.14Kaeltenthat all Fishking does is create drama and then come back to create more later?
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19:06.33AckisWorkreverse engineers your mom!
19:06.47Kaeltenengineers your mom!
19:06.58AckisWorkhah
19:07.03Fisker-slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout
19:07.10Gnarfoz's mom is an engineer
19:07.18Pneumatuslolwhut, im getting a message saying im banned trying to view that post
19:07.20Kaelten~lart Fisker-
19:07.20purlpushes the wall down onto Fisker- whilst whistling innocently
19:07.34Fisker-You seem to have just came here to troll and flame. Come back if you're able to give something constructive.
19:07.36KaeltenPneumatus: whats your ip?
19:07.36Fisker-:)
19:07.59cladhaireSorry cladhaire, you are banned from using this forum!
19:07.59cladhaireYou seem to have just came here to troll and flame. Come back if you're able to give something constructive.
19:08.04AckisWorksame also: Sorry Ackis, you are banned from using this forum!
19:08.05Fisker-how sweet of you Kaelten
19:08.06KaeltenFisker-: sorry try again
19:08.08cladhaireasshole.
19:08.22Kaeltenlol, I think I know what happened try again
19:08.23Pneumatusim not atually banned, i'm guessing its because that thread has been deleted or something
19:08.34Pneumatusah, and its back
19:08.41Kaeltencladhaire: try again you little troll
19:08.43Kaelten:P
19:08.46nevcairielKaelten: what did you do?
19:08.51nevcairielban 0.0.0.0/0 ?
19:08.52nevcairiel=P
19:09.03Kaeltennevcairiel: I banned fishking and accidently baned the reverse proxy at the same time
19:09.07Kaeltenoops
19:09.09nevcairiellol
19:09.18nevcairielsomeone said that earlier
19:09.18MoonWolfnice
19:09.23nevcairielthe forum is stupid right now
19:09.28Kaeltennevcairiel: ?
19:09.29Gnarfoza winner is Kaelten
19:09.30Gnarfoz:D
19:09.35nevcairielbecause it thinks all users come from the forum
19:09.39nevcairieler
19:09.41nevcairielfrom the proxy
19:09.50Kaeltenits smartter than vbulletin
19:10.01Kaeltenat least I can ip ban off his original ip and now just the reverse proxy
19:10.08Kaeltenvbulletin didn't seem to know the difference
19:10.17nevcairielwell considering ip bans etc, its not smart in general to host a forum behind a proxy
19:10.28Kaeltenya, the new forums won't be
19:10.53nevcairielall posts seem to be from the same ip
19:10.55nevcairiellooks funny
19:11.04renchapthere is webserver modules to avoid this
19:11.24renchapthey replace user ip with ip in http headers added by the proxy
19:11.32Kaeltenheh
19:11.49renchap(or a vbulletin option)
19:12.37nevcairielThere is a option in vB to do that, yea
19:12.48renchapsearch for x-forwarded-for
19:14.38fewynyawns
19:14.45nevcairielhm
19:14.50nevcairielit looks like SMF supports that too
19:14.56nevcairielmaybe the proxy in use doesnt set it
19:15.25renchapin squid it is a config option
19:17.49ObelixprimeKaelten, can i haz cheezburgers? And your babies?
19:18.01fewynme first!
19:18.18KaeltenObelixprime: um....  
19:18.30KaeltenI only give my babies to women?
19:18.56Obelixprimebut they're delicious
19:19.01Obelixprimewhen they're in my belly
19:20.19AckisWorkhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14692.0 hehe
19:20.44Stanzillanoooo
19:20.50StanzillaNoth died on the balkony :(
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19:22.36cubicoolTekkub: TourGuide is pretty freaking awesome. Just thought you should know... :)
19:23.16Tekkub^^
19:23.37EllipsisKaelten: can I have your babies then?
19:23.55Kaeltenhrm,  for food or for fun?
19:24.02Ellipsiswho says it can't be both?
19:24.15NeoTronWTB WotLK tourguide!
19:24.30NeoTronalthough the problem I have with TomTom is annoying
19:24.38cubicoolTekkub: You did author TG, right?
19:24.39EllipsisWTS...er...I wonder how much that would sell for
19:24.39NeoTronin the old world it seems to show for a few seconds adn then disappear
19:24.46Tekkubyes
19:24.51NeoTronnot sure if it's tomtom or tourguide but I am betting the first
19:25.22durcynit's tomtom.  fixed in current svn
19:25.27NeoTronkk
19:25.50NeoTrondoes tomtom work in northrend yet? (last I tried it didn't point anywhere})
19:26.14Ellipsisnot as of yesterday
19:26.56JerleMinaraTekkub: You should totally do a rewrite of QH for wotlk :P
19:27.02JerleMinarawould compliment tourguide nicely
19:27.04JerleMinara*nod me*
19:27.08Tekkubfuck QH
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19:27.30NeoTronthe main compliment to Tourguide, imho, is lightheaded
19:27.39Tekkubexactly
19:27.54fewyn<3 LH
19:28.14ulicLH, TomTom, & TG ftw!
19:28.26fewynif only i could auto update LH and it parsed wowhead comments a little more often
19:29.25ulicI bet if folks asked cladhaire he might share is scrapping scripts, but then again maybe not, so people scrap to much on their own.
19:30.00cladhairefewyn: what don't you have now that you need?
19:30.07fewynoh nothing
19:30.16JerleMinaraNeoTron: lightheaded is just comments though
19:30.21JerleMinarathe thing i loved about QH was that it put dots on the map
19:30.22fewyni just noticed sometimes the comments are a little dated
19:30.24JerleMinaraand highlighted where shit was
19:30.26cladhaireyou can update using the wowi updater
19:30.35cladhairefewyn: yeah, the addon page says when it was last updated
19:30.47cladhaireI tend to update more during high traffic times, i.e. when new quests come out to keep things up to date
19:30.57cladhaireI fall back every once in a while in between and just need a reminder :P
19:32.37fewynis slightly bored at work
19:33.16Obelixprimeso wait
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19:33.25Obelixprimetourguide doesn't have any guides by itself?
19:34.17JerleMinarait does
19:34.30Obelixprimebut it allows for other guides to be imported?
19:34.35JerleMinarayes
19:34.50Obelixprimeis there any reason not to ues the default one?
19:34.59JerleMinaramaybe you've developed one you feel is more optimal
19:35.08fewyn"In honor of the late George Carlin, here are seven more words you can't say on TV: ''And the Emmy goes to Bob Saget."
19:35.08fewyn- Jeffrey Ross
19:35.19ObelixprimeLOL
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19:36.14ObelixprimeSo JerleMinara, assuming I don't believe I can do better, the default one should be ok? Or do you believe there are other guides out there that are more optimal?
19:36.29JerleMinarai've heard it's a pretty good guide
19:36.39JerleMinarai can't really say, i've only used it a lil
19:36.47ObelixprimeOk
19:37.43Kemayoharl: How so?
19:41.05Ellipsisaww, and just when they were doing so well with beta uptime...
19:44.09CIA-4503ackis * r80498 10Collectinator/ (Collectinator.lua Collectinator.toc): (log message trimmed)
19:44.09CIA-45Collectinator:
19:44.09CIA-45- Will now save a list of pets/mounts that you have, saves a list of exclusions.
19:44.09CIA-45- Will use the saved list to parse agains the total list, so you'll need to do a scan first to populate the saved list.
19:44.09CIA-45- Removed a few unneeded functions now
19:44.10CIA-45- Retooled a few functions
19:44.14CIA-45- Exclusions should work
19:44.29ObelixprimeI know there's several threads on EJ about ui design, but i'm getting to the point where I'm getting so bogged down in my UI
19:44.41ObelixprimeI know the easy solution would be to get a larger monitor (I'm on a 20" widescreen atm)
19:44.44AckisWorkneural interface imo
19:44.53fewynyea
19:44.56Obelixprimebut I can't really buy that now (but hopefully soon)
19:44.58fewyni know how you feel Obelixprime
19:45.15fewyni'm having trouble with all the crap on my screen
19:45.19fewyni feel like most of it's needed
19:45.23fewynbut it probably isn't
19:45.33fewynand i need large text (I don't have glasses right now)
19:45.35ObelixprimeWe were doing KJ attempts last night, and having raid warnings, raid cooldown timers, personal cooldowns, dot timers
19:45.51Obelixprimei also have KJ as a focus target so I can see what he's casting while I do other dps
19:46.06ObelixprimeI used to be comfortable sort of spreading things out on the screen
19:46.19Obelixprimebut I've found that if I kind of smoosh things towards the centre I actually notice it more
19:46.22AckisWorkKJ as a healer = watching 12 million things and then just deciding to facepalm
19:46.41Obelixprimeso, I don't know
19:46.52Obelixprimea bigger monitor would mean I could make things smaller, which would help
19:47.09ObelixprimeI made an extra buff bar with ebb to show only the haste/shield/revitalize buffs
19:47.16Obelixprimeand threw that in the middle of my screen
19:47.30Obelixprimeso now like everything sort of focuses right on top of my toon
19:48.06ObelixprimeI think my biggest gripe is that I have dot timers, then use quartz to show target debuff timers
19:48.13Obelixprimeso I can maintain dots on multiple targets
19:48.45ObelixprimeI'm going to get a 24" monitor for my birthday or christmas, I haven't decided
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19:49.19fewynhttp://gallery.fewyn.net/d/252-1/WoWScrnShot_081108_104940.jpg my ui atm on my shadowpriest
19:50.58Obelixprimelol
19:51.05Obelixprimehaven't unlocked kiru's song of victory on my server yet
19:51.07Obelixprime<PROTECTED>
19:52.16[dRaCo]your sp's name sucks :P
19:52.30fewynIt used to be Shirochan before I transfered back to my server =p
19:53.09fewyni'll probably pick shirochan back up after the expansion hits
19:53.16fewynso i can change his hair colour and shit
19:53.21[dRaCo]we've got a "Nohealsforyou" on our server
19:53.30[dRaCo]his raid made him respec, though :D
19:53.34fewynI spec holy occasionally =p
19:53.48fewynthis name prevents people from asking me to heal instances
19:54.39Obelixprimehttp://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=214qnus&s=4
19:54.47Obelixprimetake that spirit and chew on it
19:55.07fewyndamn
19:55.10fewynthat's confusing
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19:56.16Tifido acegui 3.0 labels have a max width?
19:56.24fewynsigh still not on the armory
19:56.49fewynObelixprime has all the gear i want :(
19:56.56KaeltenTifi, hrm I don't think so
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19:57.23fewynyou basically have everything that I would be my next upgrades really
19:57.53Obelixprimelol
19:57.55fewynmy problem is finding a guild that wanta a spriest and is in BT/Hyjal
19:58.05Obelixprimehmmm
19:58.10fewynand i'm not leaving my server
19:58.27Obelixprimei got the m'uru ring i think because i basically did 95% of the attempts on him over 2 months
19:58.31fewynalready tried that and i got fucked :(
19:58.32Obelixprimeso like 400
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19:58.47fewynoh that sounds like fun
19:58.58Obelixprimethat's shitty fewyn, i joined this guild about 8 months ago
19:59.00Obelixprimei was a transfer
19:59.05Obelixprimeit worked out pretty well
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19:59.16fewynBasically the guild said they where moving raid times and it ended up being perfect for me
19:59.25fewynso I transfer over and do one late night raid with them
19:59.33fewynand then they say "We're not changing raid times."
20:00.03Obelixprimewhat raid times are you available?
20:00.13fewyn8-12 EST basically
20:00.18Obelixprimewe're looking for a holypriest, albeit, we're in swp
20:00.22fewynlol
20:00.23fewynholy
20:00.25fewynlol
20:00.32fewyni quit that gig a long time ago
20:01.04Obelixprimeyeah, we raid 8-12 sunday to wednesday
20:01.04fewyni don't have any holy gear anyways
20:01.04Obelixprimelol
20:01.04Obelixprimeok
20:01.04fewynI trashed it
20:01.04Obelixprimewe have a big spriest roster
20:01.04fewynGot fed up being the scrape goat everytime we wiped on shit
20:01.05Obelixprimeat one time we had like 6 or 7 spriests in t6 gear
20:01.15fewyn"It has to be the healers fault!"
20:01.23fewyn"Let's blame the priests class lead!"
20:01.33Obelixprimea lot of people are dumb lol
20:01.49fewynI said fuck it, vendored all my healing gear and built my fsw and spellstrike set
20:01.52fewynnever looked back
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20:02.45Obelixprimein vim, is there a way to delete like 4 characters
20:02.52ObelixprimeSo if I had VERYLONGWORD
20:02.58Obelixprimeand i watned to just rid of VERY
20:03.08fewynvim is evil
20:03.11fewyn<3 nano
20:03.16Obelixprimelol
20:03.30Obelixprimeemacs is pretty good, but i haven't used that in like 3 years soon
20:04.45mitchnullobelix: 4x (in command mode)
20:04.55Obelixprimeahhh
20:05.01Obelixprimethought it was something like that
20:05.05Obelixprimethank you
20:05.25mitchnullI usually use dtX though (where X is the first char I want to keep)
20:05.40Obelixprimei was looking for something like cw
20:05.48mitchnulldw?
20:05.52Obelixprimewhere it would put me into insert mode
20:05.54TifiKaelten, forgot to set label.width = 'fill' -.-
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20:06.01mitchnull4s then
20:06.06Kaeltenhehe
20:06.35mitchnullvim rulez :)
20:06.50Obelixprimewhat's s supposed to mean
20:06.58mitchnullsubstitute
20:07.04Obelixprimeooh
20:07.05Obelixprimeok
20:07.25Obelixprimei don't usually use that command, usually just do cw or dw and so on and so forth
20:07.36Obelixprimeonly been using it for a few months exclusively now
20:07.40fewynObelixprime: http://warcraft.fewyn.net/r/char/info/a=c:466.html That's my priest
20:07.53mitchnullif you don't like s, you could use 4cl :)
20:08.18mitchnullor c4l
20:08.26mitchnullor ...
20:08.54Obelixprimewhat's the l supposed to stand for?
20:09.00mitchnullalso, you can set up new movement commands to make cw like thing to handle camelCaseStuff
20:09.03Obelixprimethat's what i was looking for though
20:09.17mitchnullL (in lowercase) means move right
20:09.25mitchnullhjkl is the standard movement
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20:09.35Obelixprimei'm used to doing something like 4cw to delete 4 words and put me in insert mode
20:09.37Obelixprimeright!
20:09.42Obelixprimeyeah
20:09.44Obelixprimei use those
20:09.50Obelixprimejust had a mind fart
20:09.59Obelixprimestayed up late doing shattered halls
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20:10.07Obelixprimeand its almost quitting time
20:10.16mitchnullbetter than pressing caps-lock by mistake in a vim session ;)
20:10.43mitchnull(if caps-lock is not mapped to ctrl, as it should always be)
20:10.46Obelixprimefewyn, why don't you get teh guardian neck?
20:10.53fewynworking on that right now actually
20:10.59Obelixprimecool
20:11.00fewyni didn't know until recently how awesome it was
20:11.08Obelixprimeblessings deck too!!!
20:11.16fewynthat thing is expensive
20:11.22fewynace goes for 2k
20:11.26Obelixprimeouch
20:11.26fewynnormally
20:11.35Obelixprimei think i got the ace for like 500g a while back
20:11.41fewynnot that i don't have the gold, i just don't have an epic flyer yet
20:11.50Obelixprimeever thought of picking up the badge haste off hand?
20:11.58fewynneed 2 more badges
20:12.05fewynhoping to ninja in on a kara this week with someone
20:12.10Obelixprimenice
20:12.11Obelixprimegood luck
20:13.10fewyneither that or my supply bags will supply it
20:14.44CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80499 10Prat/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
20:14.44CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
20:14.44CIA-45Many fixes to customfilters. It now works at least to some degree. Chattabs
20:14.44CIA-45module converted.
20:15.36Tifihow do i add a SimpleHTML thingy to an acegui-3.0 container?
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20:17.02KaeltenTifi, that I'm sure about
20:18.55Tifiwhat?
20:21.11Trell-noooo clad|sleep you don't get to |sleep until you've fixed your addon to insert OH's too
20:21.13Trell-!!!
20:21.21clad|sleepsorry
20:21.22clad|sleepreal life > wow
20:21.28clad|sleepfix it yo damn self, or wait :P
20:21.29Ellipsislies
20:21.43Trell-sleep < wow
20:21.56Trell-+ I don't know how to
20:21.59Trell-or I would
20:22.00Trell-:(
20:22.03Ellipsisyes you do
20:22.12Ellipsisfind someone who can, offer money/secks/etc.
20:22.18Ellipsisalways a valid solution
20:22.46Trell-WTB a fix for DressToKill's OH function, offering 'etc.'
20:22.56Ellipsisconsiders it
20:25.31TifiKaelten, what are you sure about? o.O
20:25.52Kaeltenthe Simplehtml questino
20:25.54PrimerHeh, this reminds me, I put a primal mooncloth bag in the beta AH for like 5k gold and never logged back in
20:26.45Primerbored with beta
20:26.56PrimerReally should still be called alpha
20:26.56Obelixprimeare you 77?
20:27.01PrimerI'm 70
20:27.05Tifiok i'm officially confused
20:27.19Primerlike, 10% in towards 71
20:27.22PrimerTHAT bored, yes
20:27.28Obelixprimeheh
20:28.05Trell-Primer; I was getting quite excited at my shaman being nearly 72, and my warlock being nearly 71, until I logged in to find the almost double xp changes
20:28.10DashkalDK 65 and counting :p  Though I really hope that lootlag issue gets fixed soon
20:28.20JerleMinarathat's how they do it trel
20:28.27JerleMinaraexp starts super low, then they raise it up
20:28.33JerleMinarait'll be somewhere in the middle
20:28.35Trell-JerleMinara; like crack, I'd imagine
20:28.46JerleMinarathey're still balancing exp rates
20:28.58PrimerI just haven't devoted any time to the beta, seeing that I'm finally getting into some good arena teams
20:29.06Primerin normal
20:29.15Primerwhatever non-beta is called
20:29.16JerleMinaraand yeah beta still feels like alpha
20:29.22JerleMinaracrashes and worldserver issues galore
20:29.27Primerit _is_ alpha
20:29.34PrimerBeta implies feature complete
20:29.36Primerit's FAR from that
20:29.36fewynsigh now to go figure out which is better, everbloom idol or idol of terror
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20:29.58Dashkalbeta is feature complete?  It's an MMO.  Using that definition it can never be anything other than Alpha.
20:31.09Obelixprimelol
20:31.19Obelixprimewonder why all of google's products are "betas"
20:31.19JerleMinarathat's incorrect
20:31.22Obelixprimethey redefined the term
20:31.27JerleMinaraall software has a stage where it hits feature complete
20:31.43ObelixprimeThat would imply that there was a set feature set to begin with
20:32.03JerleMinaraexcept there is
20:32.10JerleMinarathere's always a specific feature set
20:32.15VonhintenBeta's don't have to be feature complete
20:32.22Vonhintenrelease candidates do
20:32.33Obelixprimeso, why would they implement the features piecemeal before going to beta?
20:32.39Obelixprimei.e. the recent downranking change
20:32.43Trell-is it possible to add an [item link] to UIErrorsFrame?  stupid question I suspect.
20:32.45Obelixprimewhy didn't that go into alpha?
20:33.01JerleMinarabecause it was a newly decided upon change?
20:33.01Trell-or any other frame for that matter
20:33.08Vonhintenwho cares.  Building a game is very different than building other pieces of software
20:33.13JerleMinarathe core feature set in wotlk is not in yet Obelix
20:33.13DashkalWoW cannot be 'feature complete' for any reasonably definition of complete given it's a constantly evolving game.  The requirements are a constant moving target.  Alpha/Beta/etc can only refer to stability
20:33.31Vonhintenexactly
20:33.32JerleMinaraan expansion can certainly be "feature complete".
20:33.41JerleMinaraTBC added ratings, arenas, two new races, whatever
20:33.43TifiTrell-, i'm just trying just that, but i believe links are only clickable in a SimpleHTML or ScrollingMessageFrame
20:33.46JerleMinarait was feature complete when all those things were in
20:33.48Tifi-just
20:33.55Tifipick one
20:33.59JerleMinarafeature complete does not mean feature locked
20:34.10VonhintenAny agile development cycle has a sliding definition about what "feature complete" means
20:34.24JerleMinarain any case, i have errands to run
20:36.08Vonhintenworld crashes probably shouldn't be happening often outside of their internal servers though
20:36.11Obelixprimeadios
20:36.16VonhintenSounds like they're getting a little sloppy
20:36.34VonhintenOr running into some nastier concurrency type issues
20:37.17ObelixprimeLast time I played (which I think was last Sunday) i crashed like 3 times in the zul'drak instance
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20:38.27Trell-ok Tifi, thanks
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20:41.09Matrix110uhm Arcane Blast went from 195 Mana to 806 Mana because of the Base Mana changes rofl
20:41.18Matrix110with 1 stack its 1,4k mana
20:42.07Matrix110no other spell quadruppeled its mana cost afaik (we are not talking about <lvl 10 spells
20:42.51Obelixprimesucks to be a mage?
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20:43.04Matrix110well not like Arcane Blast is much of a use
20:43.12Matrix110but that changes makes it obsolete :P
20:43.22Matrix110Even for Arcane Mages
20:43.22Matrix110:D
20:43.46DashkalThat would probably belong under 'bug' :p
20:44.13Ellipsisblue has always said they intended the mana cost of any given spell to remain about the same
20:44.15Trell-lua> CreateFrame("Frame","testFrame",nil,UIParent)
20:44.16lua_botTrell-: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'CreateFrame' (a nil value)
20:44.33Matrix110hmm maybe 806 was supposed to be with 3stacks
20:44.33Ellipsisso yeah, I call bug on that
20:44.44Matrix110and the guy entering the number is a retard
20:45.01Matrix11040% instead of like 13-15%
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20:57.14CIA-4503Tuck * r80500 10TuckUnitFrames/ (18 files): TuckUnitFrames: Initial Commit.
21:00.41NivFreakthere's an ace beta branch right?
21:00.43CIA-4503Tuck * r80501 10TuckUnitFrames/ (18 files): TuckUnitFrames: I am too dumb to use SVN
21:00.43NivFreakfor wrath
21:02.23CIA-4503Tuck * r80502 10TuckUnitFrames/ (45 files in 8 dirs): TuckUnitFrames: Initial Commit.
21:03.08ZhinjioNivFreak: yes
21:03.11CIA-4503Tuck * r80503 10TuckUnitFrames/ (backup/ libs/): TuckUnitFrames: Unused files deleted, externals set
21:03.39NivFreakI guess I should find the svn browser which I assume wowace has ;)
21:03.59Zhinjiohttp://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace2/WotLK/
21:04.05NivFreakis there a working bar mod yet?
21:04.08NivFreakor unit frame mod
21:04.10Zhinjioreplace Ace2 with Ace3
21:04.11fewynbartender4
21:04.16Trell-or AGUF
21:04.18fewynxperl
21:04.22NivFreakpitbull?
21:04.25Trell-pitbull and AGUF both work in wotlk
21:04.27fewyndon't think so
21:04.29Zhinjiohttp://www.wowwiki.com/Wotlk_Addon_Status
21:04.35Zhinjiopitbull, yes.
21:04.35Trell-not sure if the aura mod works with Pitbull now though in beta
21:04.37NivFreakawesome
21:04.39NivFreakthanks zhin
21:04.43Zhinjioaura doesn't work.
21:04.47fewyni stand corrected on pitbull
21:05.18Trell-AGUF works fine
21:05.32Gnarfozace3-wotlk branch, that is
21:05.40Gnarfozbt4 works, as does dominos (for bar mods)
21:06.37CIA-4503doktorjet * r80504 10OneBag/localizations/OneCore.lua: OneBag: - fixed problem in ruRU locale with profession bags recognition
21:07.34fewyni'm not liking bt4 for some reason, i miss my trinity bars :(
21:07.48Trell-how would I get the item name from something like GetInventoryItemLink
21:08.22dieckhm. Can't i set expressions in AceLocale3? I tried to evaluate CHAT_MSG_LOOT, and tried to "syndicate" from CT RaidAssist :) but every time I try to access L['CML receives ps'] I get an error "Missing entry for CML receives ps from AceLocale-3.0
21:08.26dieckL['ITEMREG'] = "(|c%x+|Hitem:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:(%-?%d+):(%-?%d+)|h%[.-%]|h|r)%";
21:08.29dieckL['CML receives ps'] = "([^%s]+) receives loot: "..L['ITEMREG'].."."; -- some player, single item
21:10.36harlKemayo: it lost its button settings (for whatever reason, may even be my fault or wow crashed) and i've normally set it to just stack to bank with a single click and stack to bags with a shift-click, so i just clicked the button and it rearranged my bag contents.
21:10.46harlnot that i'd die from it or anything. everything's fine.
21:12.31Ellipsissneaks up behind Zhinjio and gives him surprise tacklehugs
21:12.32harli just never use it to sort my bag contents because i like more to do that manually
21:12.53Zhinjioaiaiiiieeeee. oh. hi. *hug*
21:13.00Obelixprimewhats a more memory efficient addon then cartographer
21:13.15ZhinjioMapster/Gathermate/Routes
21:13.24EllipsisHelloWorld uses less memory than cart
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21:13.28Zhinjiohahahaha
21:13.31Obelixprimemap mod
21:13.40AiianeZhinjio dinged me :x
21:14.04ZhinjioI did?
21:14.11Zhinjiolooks around.
21:14.52Aiianedieck: make it a function
21:14.55Aiiane10[14:12] Zhinjio: 01ai07aii01iieeeee. oh. hi. *hug*
21:14.56Ellipsisdings Aiiane
21:15.27Zhinjiothat was me freaking out from getting secretly tacklehugged.
21:15.33Aiianehehe :)
21:15.40Aiianeaii dings me though >.>
21:15.44Zhinjiohahahaha
21:15.45EllipsisI'm good at freaking people out...
21:15.47Ellipsis-.-
21:15.48ZhinjioI'll keep that in mind.
21:15.54Zhinjiolicks Ellipsis
21:15.56Lyn_hm
21:15.58dieckAiiane: ah, nice tip, I'll try
21:16.21Aiianedieck: L["whatever"] = function(x,y) ... end
21:16.29Aiianethen when you use it, L["whatever"](x,y)
21:16.39CIA-4503zhinjio * r80505 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
21:16.39CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
21:16.39CIA-45- gui2 - switcher working with known professions
21:16.39CIA-45- gui2 - added wotlk icons
21:16.47Obelixprimeok
21:17.58CIA-4503doktorjet * r80506 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-ruRU.lua: GatherMate: and again - a single node fix for ruRU. What can I do, if changes are found and reported by one or two per day?
21:18.01Ellipsisthe quest reward gear is so pretty in wotlk...I almost wish I had worse gear so I could use these as upgrades -.-
21:18.08Ellipsisoutlands stuff sucks
21:18.16ZhinjioGreen is the new Purple!
21:18.18Zhinjio(again)
21:18.40Trell-Tifi: ping
21:19.03TifiTrell-, pong
21:19.13Trell-can you take a look at something for me?
21:19.20Tifii guess
21:19.27Trell-sec
21:19.44Trell-im awash in a sea of unfathomable luz
21:19.50Trell-*lua
21:20.06Trell-and you noted earlier that you think itemlinks can be shown in scrollingtextframes
21:20.45Tifiyea, every chat frame is one
21:20.54Hjaltesighs at Ellipsis.
21:21.01Ellipsisitem links can be *shown* pretty much anywhere
21:21.08Ellipsisthere's only a few ways to make them clickable, though
21:21.10HjalteYou're a warlock, you want to see big numbers or lots of dots!
21:21.12Trell-http://pastebin.com/m7a4f237a
21:21.24Trell-please don't laugh, it's my first foray into lua :'(
21:21.28EllipsisHjalte: lots of dots, pleasekthx
21:21.36Ellipsispoints at her nick
21:21.39Zhinjiowasn't there a quickscan for auctioneer from the command line?
21:21.44Zhinjiothat was just stupid fast?
21:21.59Trell-Zhinjio: #norganna :P
21:22.24Tifii suggest you try this stuff out using ChatFrame1
21:22.32Trell-it works in the default chat frame
21:22.33Trell-100%.
21:22.52HjalteEllipsis: Your nick? I think we need a quick english lesson for dummies here.
21:22.56CIA-4503adirelle * r80507 10Yatba/ (Yatba.lua libs/LibBars-1.1/LibBars-1.1.lua):
21:22.56CIA-45Yatba: (LibBars-1.1)
21:22.56CIA-45- renamed :SetText to :SetLabel,
21:22.56CIA-45- added :SetValueLabel,
21:22.56CIA-45- added new methods to bar and groups: :ShowIcon(), :HideIcon(), IsIconShown(), and similar methods for Label and ValueLabel,
21:22.57CIA-45- added some autodoc.
21:23.01Tifi./script ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetSpellLink(7799))
21:23.07EllipsisHjalte: ellipsis is the word for the "..." punctuation mark
21:23.11Ellipsisi.e., dot dot dot :)
21:23.18Trell-the thing is, I'm pretty sure its the addmessage line - I know from php experience for example, you need to do stuff like: echo "blah blah" . $variable . "blah blah"
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21:23.27Trell-so I was wondering if you need to do something similar in lua
21:24.17PrimerTrell-: Lua is an entirely different kind of programming, altogether
21:24.31Primer"Lua is an entirely different kind of programming"
21:24.36Trell-framecreate:AddMessage("Choosing link", 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, nil, true) - the 'link' part of that is supposed to add the formerly created 'link' (which holds the itemlink)
21:24.39Primercome on!
21:24.46PrimerYou people need to watch more movies...
21:26.04Tifiic
21:26.08Tifilink is a string
21:26.16Trell-thats the doozie.
21:26.26Tifi"Choosing link" is a string too
21:26.39Tifiwhat you want is "choosing "..link
21:26.47Tifi.. concatenates the strings
21:26.49Trell-right
21:26.51Trell-gotcha
21:27.30Tifihttp://pastebin.com/m44775bec for a somewhat working example using a SimpleHTML
21:27.52CIA-4503Tuck * r80508 10TuckUnitFrames/libs/: TuckUnitFrames: Added missing external
21:29.04Trell-Tifi; you rock.
21:29.07Trell-thankyou, very much.
21:29.28Ellipsisweird
21:29.35Tifi^^ np
21:29.44Ellipsissitting here on beta doing absolutely nothing and I get a framexml error in ChatFrame.lua
21:29.54Ellipsisthere weren't even any chat messages coming in
21:30.37CIA-4503Tuck * r80509 10TuckUnitFrames/libs/: TuckUnitFrames: Fixed missing external
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21:44.08Tifiis there a good script editor addon around? one that has undo, can execute marked lines, store snippets?
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21:44.42dafirehttp://static.curseforge.net/uploads/19/9/295/WoWScrnShot_081508_230213.jpg ;)
21:46.48PrimerI guess there's no way to call a macro from another macro?
21:47.09Ellipsisif you know the macro will be on a given button you can do /click
21:47.19Primerahhh
21:47.41PrimerIt's on action bar 3, button 9
21:47.56Primerusing bongos, with variable width bars
21:48.47Ellipsisfind out what bongos' button naming scheme is :P
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21:49.14Ellipsisin fact, iirc, recent versions of bongos actually have a :GetBar() and/or :GetButton() type thing
21:49.16Tifior hover over the button and /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName())
21:49.29Primerok
21:49.57PrimerBongos3ActionButton87
21:50.10Ellipsiswith dynamic bars the names could potentially change, so you might wanna look up the API for that (or do it the easy way and ask Tuller)
21:50.14NeoTronstarts potential plan of becoming a 10-man raiding guild in WotLK
21:50.23Tifitry /click Bongos3ActionButton87
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21:51.10Tifi10-boxing?
21:51.21Primerperfect, thanks!
21:51.37Primerheh, naw, I'm just trying to setup a focus macro for my pet
21:51.43Primerall-in-one kinda thing
21:52.07Primermouseover the person I want, sets the target [target=mouseover], /focus, /targetlasttarget
21:52.20Primerthere's a /petattack [target=focus] in there too
21:52.39KriLL3Is there a quest related to going to northrend?
21:52.43cncfanaticsanyone know if buttonfacade works in wotlk ?
21:52.54Tifibut like Ellipsis said, it might stop working if you change your action bars, and you'll have to find out the button's name again
21:53.26Zhinjiook, beer o'clock. see y'all in a few hours.
21:53.44Ellipsishf zh
21:53.48Ellipsiser, hf Zhinjio
21:53.50Ellipsisfails at tab
21:54.31Zyndromebah, is there any good AVI/whatever to FLV converter >:/
21:55.07Primerffmpeg
21:55.21Primerdunno if it exists for windog
21:55.22KriLL3Is there a quest related to going to northrend?
21:55.51Zyndromenaw
21:56.14Zyndromejust go there and you'll have a quest hub to play with
21:56.17Ellipsisafaik, you just kinda...go
21:56.56Ellipsisit kinda makes sense, I mean they wouldn't want to send everyone to one zone or the other...
21:57.20Ellipsisand if they give everyone both quests people would waste their time going back and forth between them
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21:58.35Trell-Zyndrome; Adobe Premiere Pro.
21:58.46Trell-although it's probably a little more than you require :P
21:59.12Zyndromemeh
21:59.24Trell-it's what I use for my wow videos
21:59.44Trell-although it's still probably way above what I need
22:00.13NeoTronanyone know how many raid instances are planned for WotLK? or do we not know yet?
22:00.41Trell-Zyndrome; http://exposureroom.com/members/Trell.aspx/assets/2f459429f6444bdeae2812089029424c/
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22:01.18Trell-NeoTron; I'm not sure they've announced a final amount
22:01.27Trell-theres been a few announced
22:01.36Trell-eg; Naxx is the first raid, Kara equivalent
22:03.09DashkalThree outright raids for sure.  One "encounter" that I know of.
22:03.21DashkalNaxx, Uldar, Icecrown.  And the Chamber of Aspects
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22:04.41NeoTronthe nexus?
22:04.51Trell-thats 5m.
22:05.05Trell-second instance you'll be doing in WotLK
22:05.08NeoTronwell
22:05.15NeoTronI thought there were more than one instance there?
22:05.40Trell-*shrug* I've only seen the one
22:05.49NeoTronisn't that where Malygos is?
22:06.16Trell-the eye of eternity
22:06.45Trell-The Eye of Eternity is the final instance of The Nexus where the final boss will be the blue dragon aspect Malygos.  (25m raid)
22:06.50Trell-ok, so thats another
22:06.54ZyndromePrimer , there seems to be a free ffmpeg encoder for Winderps : http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
22:07.22Dashkaloops, forgot about Malygos
22:07.53DashkalI'm guessing that Naxx/Uldar/Icecrown will be the three 'tiers' and the rest will suround them, but there's nothing to back that up or refute it
22:08.42NeoTronhaving thoughts on reverting to 10-man raiding in wotlk. just wondering if there would be enough to do w/o the 25-man draw
22:09.31Trell-I don't follow
22:09.38Trell-all 25m are having 10m too
22:09.52Trell-so you'd have everything that the 25m guilds have, except at a slightly lower tier
22:11.02NeoTronnot quite
22:11.09NeoTrona 25 man guild has 10 mans to run as relaxation
22:11.24NeoTronin a way 2x the stuff
22:11.27Stanzillazomg Ashbringer drop!
22:11.29Trell-yeah I guess
22:12.09Trell-I know (well, I hope, since we have over 500 chars/270 odd accounts in our guild) we're staying as a 25m guild - but we run Kara and ZA all the time as it is anyway with many different guild groups
22:12.24Trell-so I'm hoping we'll be doing both 10 and 25mans every reset in wotlk
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22:12.35Trell-providing our lazy members level fast enough, the slackers
22:12.50DashkalStanzilla: Very nice
22:13.04Vonhintenour best 10 are going to concentrate on the 10-mans, since we won't have to rely on 15 other jackasses
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22:14.00NeoTronLeading raids, and then the guild, of a 25-man raiding guild is taxing
22:14.17Stanzilla:))
22:14.18Trell-think is Vonhinten; I'm pretty sure we're gonna be hitting the 10mans quite soon, and leaving the 25 for a while, since I already know that theres at least 10 other people than me that are taking time off work to level as fast as possible
22:14.27Trell-s/think/thing/
22:14.38Vonhintenyeah
22:14.48Vonhintensame with us
22:14.50NeoTronwhen wow is work, wow is not fun :)
22:14.59Trell-and I have a feeling a fair amount of our current 25man team are going to take ages to level
22:15.22Trell-which is another reason why I appluad Blizz's 10m decision
22:16.24Vonhintenit's too bad the content couldn't be scaled appropriately based on variable raid size
22:16.28Pneumatusi've got a sneaking suspicion half of ou 25man raid team are going to be changing mains/specs
22:16.45Pneumatuswhich is liable to cause the guild to collapse
22:17.09VonhintenGoing to lose some folks to deathknights
22:17.21Dashkalis lost to DK
22:17.21Vonhintenand they'll be behind the curve from the start
22:17.29DashkalBut then I'm a feral, so my role stays pretty much identical
22:17.34PneumatusDKs are like a week behind
22:17.48Vonhintenthey start at 60 right?
22:17.58Pneumatus55, 58 within 2 hours of rolling
22:17.58DashkalPneumatus: More.  Blood is still OP and will be tuned a bit more before release
22:18.10Vonhinten55 - 70 is not a week for most people
22:18.30Pneumatussorry, a week for anyone serious about rerolling
22:18.36Pneumatusseveral months for the rest of them
22:18.37Arrowmasterunless you have a bunch of DKs in the raid i dont really seem them being very good
22:18.44DashkalA week for those without jobs?
22:19.09NeoTron55-70 is really fast
22:19.14KolieIve heard the deathknight questing is GREAT exp.
22:19.18NeoTronmy DK si already level 63 and I haven't exactly played a lot
22:19.22DashkalWell, given that the record for level 60-70 was, what? 23 hours?  Nevermind
22:19.23Kolieand leveling them initially is quick
22:19.32NeoTronoutlands xp is 1/2 of what it is on live
22:19.34ArrowmasterDashkal: that was cheating though
22:19.41NeoTronand (currently) DK's rip through that content insanely fast
22:19.44DashkalYou get out of the starting area at for all intents and purposes at 58
22:19.55NeoTronI solo elite quests like I did on my warlock, only it's a lot.. easier
22:20.05Dashkal58-65 is insane since you're in gear that's equiv to 65 greens and the skills are currently op
22:20.09Arrowmasterwas more fun on the warlock though
22:20.38Pneumatusi should think, if you're serious about rerolling and work 9-5, even playing constantly 6-1/2 you'd manage 10 levels in a week
22:20.50NeoTronArrowmaster: I am not sure if I agree
22:20.57NeoTronArrowmaster: having a lot of fun on my lock
22:21.07NeoTronI can't get over how fun deathgrip is
22:21.18DashkalNeoTron: Absolutely favorite skill ever
22:21.29NeoTronI once pulled a named mob from the middle of other mobs and they didn't aggro
22:21.31NeoTronwas so much win
22:21.43NeoTronit's also a lot of win to pull a big mob straight up to the ledge you're on :)
22:21.58PneumatusDKs can also walk into northrend at 55 (or 58) and just group with someone and leech XP from kills, but that wouldnt be very useful unless you have an AoE grinding party
22:22.00DashkalI have a hard decision to make come live.  Do I make my DK an engineer for the parachute cloak to cliff people, or do I leave my druid as the engy :p
22:22.33KolieSee if you like DK engi, if you dont then get off it, if u do screw the druid ;)
22:22.37Arrowmasterskyguard cloak
22:22.42NeoTronDashkal: jump off and deathgrip them with you?
22:22.47DashkalNeoTron: Hell yes :p
22:22.53DashkalArrowmaster: 10m cooldown
22:22.56DashkalEngy is 30s
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22:23.09Arrowmaster30s? wow
22:23.18Arrowmasteri remember it being much longer
22:23.21DashkalIt was
22:23.28DashkalUsed to be 30 mins originally
22:23.49Dashkalbut it got improved after skyguard cloaks became common
22:25.43DashkalMind you, I wanna see what glyphs DKs get before I decide.  That extra slot may be better than cliffing people with death grip :p
22:27.30AdirelleArrowmaster: the new engy recipes will work as "Use:" enchants
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22:29.23DashkalWant so much...  I'd love to just stuff my engy 'enchants' on my pvp set and call it good
22:29.39dafirewhat are those little signs on the worldmap that look like alliance flags in beta ? .9
22:29.56Dashkaldafire: Nifty lil bug :p  I see Arathi Basic symbols
22:30.00DashkalBasin*
22:30.26Ellipsisimo it looks like they just forgot texcoords on the city icons
22:31.04DashkalEllipsis: that would certainly explain it
22:31.26dafiremy ouf layout works fine in beta .. it need threat values, though :9
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22:34.25Adirellenight
22:37.55NivFreakis svn the best way to be pulling addons?
22:38.15NivFreakfor wrath
22:39.00Arrowmasteryes
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22:40.32NivFreakthanks
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22:43.14NivFreakis the curseforge svn open for general use?
22:43.22ckknighthow do you mean?
22:43.32NivFreakcan I pull pitbull out of svn from there
22:43.34ckknightfor pulling, you don't need a username or anything
22:43.38NivFreaksince I assume you're doing wrath dev
22:43.41NivFreakon curseforge
22:43.47ckknightPitBull4 is not ready for general use
22:43.50ckknightnor am I using svn
22:44.06NivFreakdoes pb3 work?
22:44.07NivFreak:P
22:44.14NivFreakand yea, I forgot you're using git
22:44.15ckknighteverything but auras, I believe
22:44.58NivFreakdoes curseforge provide your git repository?
22:45.07Arrowmasteryes
22:45.25NivFreakurl?
22:45.30NivFreaksorry I fail at curseforge :)
22:45.53ckknightyea, curseforge supports svn, git, and hg
22:46.01ckknightI like git, so that's what I use
22:46.23NivFreakcrap, I need to rebuild my git client
22:46.27NivFreakguess I'll pull a snapshot
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22:54.47ashbdo any of the bar addons store different button layouts for different profiles (i.e. a tank and a pvp profile with different actions on the hotbars)
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22:58.06CIA-4503endeavour * r80510 10Endeavours_BuffMod/ (BuffBar.lua Core.lua Endeavours_BuffMod.toc Options.lua):
22:58.06CIA-45Endeavours_BuffMod:
22:58.07CIA-45- performance tweaks, cleanup.. (guess i'd better do a complete rewrite -.-)
23:00.47NivFreakwhat US server are you guys on?
23:00.57NivFreakin beta
23:01.22DashkalI'm on Northrend.  I'd rather not get ganked while testing
23:01.35NivFreakis there a guild setup there yet?
23:01.38Ellipsisnorthrend here as well
23:01.40DashkalSecure Templars
23:01.52Ellipsis! I want in
23:02.03DashkalWhisper anybody for an invite and get your IRC name in your public note
23:02.23NivFreakno one is on?
23:02.37DashkalI don't have the beta client on this machine or I'd do it myself :(
23:02.46NivFreakhehe
23:02.49DashkalCan ask in #wowuidev for someone to log in
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23:10.20Trell-just done Azjol-Nerub (thanks Gnarfoz!)
23:10.26Trell-so so fast
23:12.42Gnarfozit's really short
23:12.42Gnarfoz:D
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23:14.29HjalteWhat's the difference between multiple lines of /cast and using a castsequence?
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23:14.52Ellipsisthe former tries them all at once, the latter tries one each time you press the button
23:15.06KriLL3former doesn't work that well I might add
23:15.13Ellipsisnot for anything with a gcd, no
23:15.47KriLL3which is just about everything
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23:19.42KriLL3you cant mount in stormwind anymore?
23:20.55NivFreakor any other city
23:20.55NivFreaklol
23:20.57NivFreaknice bug
23:21.16fewynit's a known bug
23:21.23fewynsuprised it wasn't fixed in the last build
23:21.24KriLL3kk
23:21.31KriLL3though it was by design, got a bit scared
23:21.45KriLL3you can mount in SW harbor though :>
23:21.51fewyni'd be raising hell if it was intentional
23:21.53fewynyea
23:21.57fewynits not inside the city
23:22.00DashkalYou can also mount outside and head in
23:22.03fewynyou can mount outside and head in
23:22.07KriLL3kk
23:22.43KriLL3is there an area behind the huge gates in the harbor? looks like there is an empty square on the map
23:23.34KriLL3how do I apply my riding crop to a mount? I click it, then the mount and I try to mount it...
23:24.29KriLL3yay the boat to auberdine has an actual crew, wish all boats had that
23:25.04fewynbut that boat goes to darnassus
23:25.10fewynwho uses that anymore?
23:25.22KriLL3nightelves, once.
23:25.58kenlyricno
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23:26.03NivFreakanyone know if RatingBuster has been updated for wrath yet? :)
23:26.12kenlyricnightelves get a quest to fly
23:26.19kenlyricyou mean non-night elves, once
23:26.28ulicNivFreak: pretty sure it's on wowi wotlk section.
23:26.37KriLL3kenlyric: ?
23:27.17kenlyricI really don't know how to say that any clearer.
23:27.36kenlyricnight elves don't use that boat
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23:27.52CIA-45PassLoot:
23:27.52CIA-45- Added ItemPrice filter. (using ItemPrice-1.1 library)
23:27.53mikexnobody uses them boats, delete imo
23:28.06kenlyricnon night elves do
23:28.09kenlyriconce
23:28.11KriLL3it goes from auberdine to stormwind, wtf are you talking about?
23:28.22Ellipsisthat damn flight path is free, it might as well be automatically discovered
23:28.27kenlyricauberdine to darnassus is what I saw people talking about
23:28.35KriLL3nope
23:28.52mikexI don't boat anywhere, shatt - sunwell - shatt - occasional ironforge
23:29.11kenlyricfewyn>but that boat goes to darnassus
23:29.13kenlyricwho uses that anymore?
23:29.15kenlyric<KriLL3>nightelves, once.
23:29.28KriLL3woah IF is damn dark
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23:31.31Ellipsisdear lord, how many forsaken spies are there in this lake?!
23:32.09dafirei only got 2
23:32.09Ellipsisand more importantly, why do they always write the exact same stuff in their diving logs...
23:32.13dafirebut many crabs
23:32.31Ellipsiscoughs
23:32.37KriLL3hmm landed in menethil and got disconnected
23:35.45dafireworld server down
23:35.58KriLL3I prefer it to be up
23:36.11Ellipsisdon't we all
23:36.42Ellipsisso many great opportunities for dirty jokes...am I in heaven?
23:37.29KriLL3does chincilla work with wotlk?
23:38.09Ellipsisseems to
23:38.25Ellipsisthere was one bug with pinging the map, but ck already fixed it
23:40.49KriLL3is it a separate version for the wotlk ace addons?
23:41.43Gnarfozno, trunk works
23:41.50KriLL3kk
23:43.29KriLL3heh the boat from menethil to northrend is damn scenic
23:43.59Ellipsisand by scenic you mean painfully slow?
23:44.15KriLL3that's one way to put it yes
23:45.23CIA-4503odlaw * r80512 10PassLoot/PassLoot.toc: PassLoot: forgot to update toc for that library
23:51.07Antiarchttp://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/a/a6/Raggy.jpg
23:51.08Antiarc:O
23:55.36HjalteCan anyone tell me how I can make a macro with, how I see it done, two castsequences - One with pounce, when i start a fight stealthed, one exactly the same but without pounce, for when I start a fight not-stealthed?
23:55.50DashkalAntiarc: that's a very cool image
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23:57.09Stanzillathrows TABS at Antiarc :P
23:58.01Antiarcwhat
23:58.28Stanzillahits: chatter, tabs
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