IRC log for #wowace on 20080814

00:00.29VonhintenHOME`Anyone else having trouble logging into Live?
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00:00.59Elsiaheya
00:02.12Stanzillahai2u
00:03.59JerleMinarahttp://cgi.ebay.com/2-BlizzCon-2008-Tickets-Only_W0QQitemZ300250138879QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300250138879&_trkparms=72%3A1072%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
00:04.21ccKepso, 8788 = newest build?
00:04.31JerleMinarayes
00:05.06XuerianSo how'd they get that SS?
00:05.28HjalteAdirelle|work2: I'm loving yatba, but after updating whenever I kill a mob I see this white bar with its health on it - what's that?
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00:18.25VonhintenWow, that's really wierd, sometimes my firewall just forgets some of its own policy entries
00:18.29VonhintenLike the one I have on that allows all outbound traffic... wasn't allowing all outbound traffic till I disabled/re-enabled it
00:20.38sb140 mb again :p
00:20.39sbnice
00:20.41sb*extract*
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00:21.38Elsiastill no beta for me :P
00:24.38Megalon142mb for enGB, this will take a while if it stays at 40kb/s :/
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00:26.54CamciIs there an addon that shows the timer when the buffs comes in arenas?=
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00:33.44ccKep6kb/s for me, haha
00:34.09ccKep(manly because my downstream is full of dexter season2 backups ^.^)
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00:36.04Megalonrdy some minutes ago
00:38.19Megalonbut had to figure out that launcher.exe kinda hungup upon closing and didn't close it's filehandles or so. and patch didn't start until i killed the launcher process :O
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00:54.21sbhmyup, dragon is nice now :)
00:54.49Megalonhehe, yea
00:55.16Megalonperhaps the 140mb are only the dragon texture + taurenhairstyles :D
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00:58.32Kirkburn|afkMegalon, oh no, it's way more than that :P
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01:12.20sbmeh - new wow client slows my system
01:12.27sbwhen running in background
01:12.45Ackis~seen nymbia
01:12.49purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 35m 3s ago, saying: 'clearly need to start tossing them out based on geographic location'.
01:16.38Daemonacurses about m$
01:16.45Daemonawho are these jackasses
01:16.50Daemonarebooting my laptop at 3am
01:17.18Daemonajust because i told windows update i will decide when to reboot, they reboot it at 3am !?
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01:17.56Diaoturn off automatic updates :p
01:18.02Archarodimyes when you wait too much time after applying updates they force you to reboot
01:19.21Diaonever understood why MS required a reboot after updates anyway
01:19.27Diaoshouldn't need to restart a system to apply updates :(
01:19.45Archarodimthey cannot replace files while they are in use
01:20.24Diaowell
01:20.29Diaothey can in unix based systems!
01:20.52ArcharodimUnix ~= Windows :P
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01:21.12Diaoi know
01:21.21DiaoMS should implement it :(
01:21.25Diaorebooting is such a hassle
01:21.50Stanzillathey improved that with vista sp1
01:22.05Stanzillaonly certain updates need restarts now
01:22.17Stanzillaand those mostly affect the updating system itself
01:22.24Archarodimmaybe they'll do it in their new FS
01:23.20Diaohmm
01:24.38Diaoi need a new computer with vista
01:24.41Diaolol
01:25.49Daemonamy vista box wants to restart too
01:25.55Daemona... but it pre-warned with a 5min timer
01:26.07kenlyricat least vista lets you delay restart reminder for 4 hours
01:26.33Archarodimis there a place where we can see beta server status?
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01:28.35Daemonadoubt that
01:28.45StanzillaDaemona: probably because of this update http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2889489c-ee87-4607-8aa5-812e8078ab27&DisplayLang=en
01:29.23Stanzillaor the windows update update :)
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01:37.56Trell-patch is on the EU downloader at least
01:38.00Trell-142mb
01:38.45Trell-never mind, seems im behind the times >_<
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01:43.25CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80379 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua:
01:43.25CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
01:43.25CIA-45Fix but in the "Unknown use common color setting". This module still needs
01:43.25CIA-45its options redone also.
01:46.36Archarodimeu beta realm seems online
01:48.13Trell-just patching mine now
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01:52.33CIA-4503arkayenro * r80380 10ArkInventory/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
01:52.33CIA-45ArkInventory:
01:52.33CIA-45- 2.27.08
01:53.08Trell-YES
01:53.11Trell-dragon texutres!
01:53.13Trell-*textures
01:53.16Trell-on the loading screen
01:53.24Trell-wow
01:53.27Trell-thats a badass dragon
01:54.09Trell-and yeah, EU beta servers do seem up
01:56.34Zyndrome*froth around mouth*
01:57.53sbthey should fix that authenticator window :/
01:58.12Daemonaoh man
01:58.19Daemonathat login screen drake is pimp
01:58.28Trell-isn't it just :P
01:58.54Zyndromepics or it didn't happen .. uh exist .. whatever :C
01:59.05Trell-sec I'll fraps it
01:59.15Trell-just off to SW to see if they fixed the mounting
01:59.19Zyndromehttp://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8290/loginbv0.jpg
01:59.20Zyndromeoh mai
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01:59.40Zyndromehttp://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3945/downrankdeadsw2.jpg
01:59.41ZyndromeOo
02:00.13Trell-no, they didnt.
02:00.18Trell-you still cant mount in SW or IF.
02:01.11Trell-yeah, CHain heal is 706 for all ranks except 5, which is 559.
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02:01.47Daemonahmm interesting
02:01.54Daemonamap got a rework
02:02.14Trell-with the new icons on it?
02:02.17Trell-is that what you mean?
02:02.18Daemonayup
02:02.23Neyaserious measures to stop downranking it seems on that Healing wave.
02:03.13Daemonai just wonder why the horde camps are showing the alliance shield (blue icon)
02:03.17sbuarg
02:03.24sbbloodworm chance reduced to 12%
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02:06.39FtH|Daemonagreat
02:06.41FtH|Daemona...
02:06.43FtH|Daemonasb ?
02:06.50FtH|Daemonanow the gaming rig crashed ;)
02:06.50sbyup?
02:06.52sboh
02:07.28CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80381 10Prat/modules/ (History.lua PlayerNames.lua):
02:07.28CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
02:07.29CIA-45Playernames: Removed most of the closures from the options table, History:
02:07.29CIA-45removed an unused option get/set function pair.
02:08.33FtH|Daemona\o/ no more subzone dismounting in grizzly hills
02:08.58FtH|Daemona:(
02:09.42FtH|Daemonaok... and there i enter howling fjord and dismount at frostblade peak *ouch*
02:10.05harlwhat's wrong with my BankStackFu minimap icon changing its position when i relog/reloadui?
02:14.16harli always put it back at about the same position but it keeps repositioning itself to somewhere else on the minimap - just doesn't stay where i put it.
02:14.39Industrialmy new buddy here needs a name! winner gets a cookie! http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f462719dd160b2bed1f1a60510ad09bb.jpg
02:14.40harlmaybe i should crush the icon at one side and call it "the egg of columbus" to make it stick to its place.
02:14.59harlat least that would be somewhat funny.
02:17.03ArrowmasterIndustrial: TheMaker
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02:17.13harlwhat about "Mrow"
02:20.22IndustrialI was thinking
02:20.24IndustrialFred
02:20.26Industrial:S
02:20.36harlPaul maybe?
02:20.47Industrialbtw, the tank pet talents (worm is a tank pet) are very nice!
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02:21.46harlso it's a Wank (a worm tank) or a Torm (a tank worm)
02:22.28XuerianIndustrial: Mr Wiggles
02:23.02Industrialtorm, what does that remind me of...
02:23.15CIA-4503ackis * r80382 10Collectinator/ (Collectinator.lua MountDatabase.lua PetDatabase.lua):
02:23.15CIA-45Collectinator:
02:23.15CIA-45- Few bug fixes
02:23.23Industrialoh right, Tyrian 2000 level/world
02:23.23harlThumbstall
02:23.25Industrial:D
02:23.35Trell-Industrial; does it remind you of weeaboo?
02:23.46Industrialold school game actually
02:23.59sylvanaaris there an ace3 equivalent to "~OptionValue"
02:24.09Trell-anyways...as much as I like the new dragon on the login screen, I can't believe that was more important than fixing the mount problem in major towns :(
02:24.45harlTinyShaiHulud (oh, yeah, very original.. lol..)
02:26.52harlPeekaboo
02:27.15sbmhh - no idea how that new threat thingie works
02:27.27harlDragon's-tonsil-on-a-stick
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02:28.16DashkalTrell-: Art team vs world team.  Totally not the same people :p
02:28.36Industrialhosting team
02:28.40Industrialgo fix the damn eu servers
02:28.46Industrial(tho its working fine at 5am atm)
02:28.47Trell-they were working just now
02:28.57DashkalNorthrend just went down for me
02:28.58harlthey are
02:29.01Trell-was in there testing the Bloodworm change
02:29.04DashkalUnable to connect
02:29.34Trell-it 'feels' more lucky now, not like before, where it felt pretty much guaranteed you could spam death strike when it came up and get loads of healing.
02:30.04Industrialgood
02:31.13Industrialyey with this new pet I can actually rotate stead/auto again without getting aggro on every mob
02:31.19Industrialactully, i dont seem to be losing any aggro :D
02:31.35Industrial<3 http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53179
02:31.52harli wonder if bliz might add auctionable enchantments at any point
02:32.00CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80383 10Prat/ (addon/options.lua modules/PlayerNames.lua):
02:32.00CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
02:32.00CIA-45Set get/set on the top node of the options table to "GetValue", "SetValue",
02:32.00CIA-45so those get/set'ers can be removed from all child options.
02:32.02Trell-they are already
02:32.05Trell-where have you been harl?
02:32.05Industrialthats would be nice harl
02:32.11IndustrialTrell-: really? good.
02:32.23Trell-you enchant a scroll, from inscription mats
02:32.27Trell-then sell the scroll.
02:32.36Industrialoh leet :)
02:32.40Trell-then whoever gets the scroll uses it
02:32.44Trell-on whatever they like
02:32.51harlok. good.
02:33.01IndustrialI hope that means no more mats hunting for anyone not enchanter
02:33.13harlit doesn't
02:33.21Ellipsiskind of, but enchanting mats are still used elsewhere
02:33.33Industrialhmm. my worm; Dick or Fred
02:33.36Industrialor Bill
02:33.40harlFred
02:33.45harlof those three? Fred
02:33.55Industrialk
02:34.14Industrialfred it is =)
02:34.20Industrialgiefs harl the cookiez
02:34.35harlcute. thank you. :p
02:34.39Trell-Industrial; harl; http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?tab=1&page=764
02:34.43JoshBorkeIndustrial: you not like Legs? :(
02:35.02IndustrialJoshBorke: nah :<
02:35.18Industrialfred is more comical imo
02:35.46IndustrialTrell-: now lets hope they wont screw with the prices like they do with primals
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02:35.50JoshBorkeFINE!  i'll never ty to help you again
02:36.07hi2uanyone here use afflicted?
02:36.10Trell-people are betting they will be cheaper than the mats
02:36.14Trell-the scrolls that is
02:36.48harlthat as well means, that i can literally enchant my own stuff by creating a scroll and send it to my other chars, right?
02:37.17Ellipsisyeah, it just costs a bit to get the parchment or whatever from an inscriber
02:37.19IndustrialJoshBorke: nooooo :(
02:37.27Industriallicks Ellipsis
02:37.34Ellipsisnibbles Industrial
02:37.38IndustrialxD
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02:37.43Ellipsismmm, tastes like pumpkin pie
02:37.55Industrialwhatever you want baby ;o
02:38.05Ellipsis;)
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02:38.48harlwants purl to be a wolf.
02:38.53Ellipsiswow, patch notes fail
02:39.56Industrialpurl, be a wolf
02:40.03Industrialharl: nop :<
02:40.31harl:/
02:40.58IndustrialI love the howling fjord music
02:42.16EllipsisI love that servers are back up zomg
02:42.35Sayntooo downranking is now dead, they cost more mana than highest lvl spell
02:42.54NeoTroneverything uses "base of mana" cost now it seems
02:43.05NeoTronno more downrankign shadow bolts. bummer!
02:44.38Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
02:44.50FtH|Daemonaomagawd
02:44.51Tinyboomwth, i get around 5-10 of this when i res at instance: [04:43:25]party2 is not in your party.
02:44.53Zhinjiodls patch
02:44.57FtH|Daemona490spellpower craftings
02:44.58Tinyboomanyone seen it before?
02:48.22Industrialhey theres icons on my world map now
02:48.27Industrialhttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/4bfd057597749581fcb0b8bbd0ae0591.jpg
02:48.39Industrialalliance/horde territorial control kinda like icons
02:48.42Industrialanyone have this?
02:49.05FtH|Daemonawhy shouldnt we have it? ;)
02:49.23Industrialcause im leet? i dunno :p
02:49.31IndustrialAnyone know what it means :D?
02:49.41Zhinjioyou're a beta tester?
02:49.43Zhinjiogrins.
02:49.55Industriallol :p
02:50.15Sayntprobably a bug, if you zoom the map out and go to another continent then zoom in they're all over... unless it's world pvp stuff to come lol
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02:51.09Industrialnooo its not a bug :p
02:51.30Industrialhttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/9e87856b877aa81805bbe05ab1db392e.jpg
02:51.49IndustrialI guess it ahs to do with reputation?
02:52.17Zhinjiowhat bars mod are you using?
02:52.30Industrialactionbar? bartender4
02:52.31Zhinjiolemme guess, bt
02:52.34Zhinjiook
02:52.57Sayntthere's a shitton of those around though, look at Barrens
02:53.18NeoTronman mana costs are completely out of wack
02:53.37NeoTronrank 10 SB 629 mana, rank 11 SB 465 mana
02:53.58NeoTronimmolate is the same
02:54.07FtH|Daemonaoh they added npc to the violet citadel
02:54.12FtH|Daemonarhonin is there
02:54.22NeoTroncorruption has two ranks at 383 mana, all lower are 520
02:54.28IndustrialSaynt: then I predict its something like localdefense
02:54.30CIA-4503StingerSoft * r80384 10Decursive/localization.ru.lua:
02:54.30CIA-45Decursive:
02:54.30CIA-45- update ruRU
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02:54.36IndustrialSaynt: the icons being horde/alliance colored...
02:54.44Sayntahh good idea
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02:55.09Mytosdoes anyone have the script to create a macro that will link an item in chat
02:55.54Industrialcant you just link the item in the chat?
02:56.23Mytosyea, but i wanna link it in a macro
02:56.54FtH|Daemonasuggestion: go to wowhead, search any item, click the create link button, modify
02:58.06Mytosdoesnt work
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03:01.34NeoTronso here's a question
03:01.53NeoTronwhy would they even have lower rank spells listed when they actually cost more mana, not even the same
03:02.02NeoTronjust make the skills scale with level and be done with it
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03:02.59farmbuyerdifferent effects on higher ranks of some spells, you might want to deliberately not use those effects
03:03.13farmbuyer(e.g., dispel magic effect on higher ranks of arcane shot)
03:04.08Gary13579is it possible to view more than 5 fights ago in recount?
03:04.48Gary13579Mytos: It does work, I used it a while ago.
03:04.57NeoTronif that is your example it's bust
03:05.02CIA-4503nymbia 07Ace3 * r80385 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-ruRU.lua:
03:05.02CIA-45Quartz:
03:05.02CIA-45- Add ruRU translation from Vairus
03:05.03NeoTronsince arcane shot doesn't dispell anymore
03:05.12Gary13579... since when?
03:05.20CIA-4503nymbia 07Ace3 * r80386 10Quartz/Quartz.toc:
03:05.20CIA-45Quartz:
03:05.20CIA-45- helps to modify the toc file.
03:05.30Mytosit puts the item in your chatlog to link it, but it wont let me use it in a macro to link in guild or trade
03:05.31Gary13579http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27019
03:05.39Gary13579Mytos: Modify it.
03:06.29Gary13579/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Shift-click this to place a link into a chat message: \124cffa335ee\124Hitem:1728:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Teebu's Blazing Longsword]\124h\124r");
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03:06.36Gary13579is the WoWhead link
03:06.36Mytoshow about you be helpful and tell me how instead of just giving me the same information multiple times when ive stated it doesnt help me for what i want
03:07.12Gary13579Well, was going to, but you don't gotta be a needy ass that wants things handed to him without willing to do any work.
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03:09.29nymbiacan someone check if that russian quartz translation actually loads?  dude had a lot of syntax errors
03:09.41Gary13579NeoTron: the reason for that was to kill downranking, btw
03:10.20Arrowmaster+FLOOR = "Floor"; -- Dungeon Map Level
03:10.20Arrowmaster+FLOOR_NUMBER = "Floor %d"; -- Dungeon Map Level
03:10.22Gary13579also doing that would kill training
03:10.24Arrowmasterwoh
03:10.30Gary13579which is like 400-500g easily
03:10.43nymbiaArrowmaster: in globalstrings? wow
03:10.53Arrowmasteryes
03:11.01JerleMinara?
03:11.05JerleMinarawhat's the significance of that?
03:11.19nymbiathey're giving us dungeon maps
03:11.23nymbiaor so that would imply
03:12.32ShefkiAbout time
03:16.00NeoTronGary13579: downranking... shadow bolts
03:16.06NeoTronthat makes sense now!
03:16.10NeoTronbecause I often want to do less damage
03:16.10Gary13579lol
03:16.17Gary13579was a change they just decided to make for all spells
03:16.33NeoTronmy point is really that rank 10 and below is 23% mana while 11 and above is 17%
03:16.42NeoTronso once you get to level 70 you suddently pay like 200 less mana to do more damage
03:16.58NeoTronand other spells n the warlock spellbook is the same
03:17.06NeoTronlower ranks costing not the same but significantly more mana
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03:22.36CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80387 10Prat/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
03:22.36CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
03:22.36CIA-45Use inherited get/set where possible.
03:24.13Xinhuanwell damage, and threat skills aren't tweaked yet
03:24.20Xinhuanthe blues made sure they told us that
03:29.24Arrowmasterlove that blizzard has been using real torrent seeds lately instead of just http seeds
03:29.43Arrowmasterconnected to 3 bliz seeds and got the patch in 5 minutes
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03:40.37Xinhuanhmm i got the patch in about 15 min
03:40.55Xinhuanthen again my download speeds aren't uber
03:44.38CIA-4503ackis * r80388 10WelfareEpics/ (. WelfareEpics.toc externals.txt):
03:44.38CIA-45WelfareEpics:
03:44.38CIA-45- Lets make this a wrath add-on since I probably won't finish development before WotLK comes out
03:44.38CIA-45- ToC -> 30000
03:44.38CIA-45- Externals -> WotLK branchs
03:44.40Ackisit wasn't a huge patch
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03:54.50_mytoswelfare epics?
03:57.54Zhinjioyou can't work on just one project, can you?
03:57.55Zhinjioheh
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04:01.47Ellipsisone project? where's the fun in that?
04:02.31Ackisone project? NEVAR
04:02.37AckisI have 8 going?
04:03.01Ackis4 are "complete"
04:03.12Ackisbtw http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/arl/ does that page look out of place? ie: frames are all over?
04:03.47Zhinjionope
04:03.49Zhinjiolooks clean to me
04:04.54Ackishmm showing weird on mine
04:05.01Ackisie: authors are on the bottom of hte page
04:17.34_mytostheyre never "complete" ackis lol
04:22.20Ackis:(
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04:23.35RaydenUso i joined a heroic arc group
04:23.38RaydenUwent into their dungeon
04:23.40RaydenUthen left the group
04:23.43RaydenUreset my instances
04:23.45RaydenUthen joined another group
04:23.52RaydenUbut it wo'nt take me into that group's dungeon
04:24.09RaydenUideas?
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04:42.59Ackisthat's my toons name on beta kinda!
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04:48.14HjalteTekkub: TourGuide is doing something to the QuestWatchFrame, yeah? - and then tainting it when in combat?
04:48.41Tekkubyes
04:48.59HjalteBut that's "okay" taint, right?
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04:58.25PrimerFluidFrames is kinda buggy
04:58.33PrimerAnyone know of a better addon for moving frames?
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05:02.54CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80392 10Prat/modules/History.lua:
05:02.54CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
05:02.54CIA-45Missing local
05:14.28CairennGagorian: ping?
05:17.53Cairenn~seen Gagorian
05:17.56purlgagorian is currently on #wowace (9h 18m 15s), last said: 'You can do UnitAura("target", "Prayer of Fortitude") for example'.
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05:27.04aestilwhat do you guys think.  http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/WoWScrnShot_081008_154512.jpg
05:28.06Ellipsisneeds moar consistency
05:28.25Ellipsisfonts and frame borders, specifically
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05:29.03PrimerNo suggestions for a frame mover addon?
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05:46.59CIA-4503parnic * r80393 10IceHUD/modules/ (PlayerMana.lua TargetMana.lua):
05:46.59CIA-45IceHUD:
05:46.59CIA-45- now fully compatible with blizzard's "predicted power" system to constantly show energy/mana gains instead of ticking them
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06:10.34Zhinjioum
06:10.42Zhinjiohow do you reopen the bg screen so you can leave?
06:10.44ZhinjioAV
06:10.48Zhinjio<-- pvp nub
06:11.25Xinhuanright click on the icon on your minimap
06:11.28Xinhuanand choose leave BG
06:11.35Xinhuanthe bg icon that is
06:11.46Zhinjiothx
06:11.52Xinhuanor left click it to open the bg score board
06:12.10Xinhuanshift clicking it opens the mini zone map
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06:13.32Groktarhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8974837994&pageNo=3&sid=1#44
06:13.40Groktarall ranks cost the same?
06:13.58Ackisyes
06:14.00Ackiswell no
06:14.03Ackislast rank is a bit cheaper
06:14.07Groktaro
06:14.08Ackis100-200 mana cheaper
06:14.24Ackismy lesser heal which heals for about 100 costs 844 mana lol
06:14.34Groktarit's kind of boggle
06:14.51Ackisit's gonna make life easier for healers
06:14.51Groktarlike, my max rank gheal is for 6k+
06:15.11Groktarseems silly to do that when someone is down 3k health
06:15.26Ackisthere's new abilities to counter act that
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06:16.20Ackisugh why am I getting this: AceConfigDialog-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua:1634: AceConfigRegistry-3.0:ValidateOptionsTable(): Welfare Epics.type: expected a string, got a nil
06:16.26Ackissomething I'm doing stupid but not sure
06:16.53Ackisand Groktar look at the serendipity talent
06:17.03Groktarya, i saw that
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06:34.29CIA-4503ackis * r80397 10WelfareEpics/ (. externals.txt):
06:34.29CIA-45WelfareEpics:
06:34.29CIA-45- Fix externals
06:34.29CIA-45- Trying to fix svn: Unrecognized format for the relative external URL ''.
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06:35.41GroktarDivine Spirit Rank 5: 680 -> 2528 Mana.
06:35.42Groktarlol
06:36.57Groktararcane blast 3 debuffs costs 4k mana, hehe
06:37.12Groktarthey're going to have fun chasing down all the bugs and balancing this
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06:37.59CIA-45LittleWigs:
06:37.59CIA-45- change TOC filename
06:37.59CIA-45- add Dalronn 'enfeeble'
06:37.59CIA-45- koKR Update
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06:38.17CIA-45LibBabble-Zone-3.0:
06:38.17CIA-45- koKR Update
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07:30.12orionshockso what is today's beta update all about?
07:30.32Xinhuanabout spell nerfs
07:30.35Cheadsno downranking
07:30.37Xinhuanthey killed downranking
07:30.42nevcairielwhich isnt a nerf
07:30.48nevcairielthey just corrected the intended design
07:30.48Xinhuanby making all ranks cost equal or more mana to max rank
07:31.08Xinhuanwell in many ways it is a nerf. we use rank 1 CCs in arena (sheep, entangling, etc) as DR sets in
07:31.11Xinhuanwe use ran 1 frostbolts
07:31.18Xinhuanrank1 earthshocks for interrupts
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07:31.28mitch0didum
07:31.33nevcairielI really could care less for arena
07:31.35Xinhuanits a nerf basically, by forcing the use of max rank
07:31.39Xinhuanfor pvp
07:31.56nevcairieloh boohoo, now you have to spend mana to be annoying
07:31.57nevcairielcry more =P
07:32.10Xinhuanits a buff to rogue/warr
07:32.13Xinhuanwho doesn't rely on mana
07:32.23Xinhuanwe all know mana is already a huge concern in arena
07:32.24Cheadsrogues and warriors needed a pvp buff
07:32.42nevcairielWotLK will shift everything anyway
07:32.45Xinhuanrogues and warriors own faces in arena right now because their gear scales better than casters
07:32.56nevcairielYou cannot know how pvp turns out when 3.0 goes live
07:32.59Cheads</sarcasm>
07:33.12mitch0could someone point me to a forum post or something about the WotLK api changes?
07:33.22Cheadsnev I'm sure rogues will own just as they do now =)
07:33.57Xinhuanit is nevetheless a nerf, because it is a change that removes options from players
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07:34.29nevcairielQQ more =P I like the change, downranking was stupid
07:34.53nevcairielIts funny that a mage crys that he has to use max rank frostbolt and sheep in arenas now
07:35.07nevcairieland not a healer who uses downranking all the time
07:35.09Cheadsactually I thought it was nice to have more ways to heal.. but it will just be max rank all the way
07:35.23nevcairielNow you use different heals ;)
07:35.23Cheadsgave more options
07:35.24Pneumatusqq tailor, artificial price-capping on new transmuted cloth ftl
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07:35.33Xinhuanif you removed all mana burn/drain abilities from all classes
07:35.35Xinhuani wont' complain
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07:35.46Cheadsyeah. .both of them..
07:35.48Xinhuanas it is, i get drained in the arena from 10k to 0 in 10 seconds from a heroism mana burn
07:36.14Xinhuannow as a healer if you have 200 mana left, and u can cast a low rank heal to keep alive someone, now u can't do it at all, u need that 600 mana to do any heal
07:36.14nevcairielpoor mage puppy *pat*
07:36.40Cheadsbefore you could use several ranks of healing wave.. now it will be healing wave + chain heal fun!
07:36.49mitch0nev: are you hosting BT4 completely on wowi svn, or you just "push" there from another repo?
07:37.03nevcairielI dont use the wowi svn at al
07:37.08mitch0hm
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07:37.24mitch0I remember seeing bt4 on their svn
07:37.34nevcairieli created a test-repository once
07:37.38mitch0ah
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07:37.44Xinhuan[8/14 15:36:12] <@nevcairiel> poor mage puppy *pat* <-- you're the last person i expect to channel troll, nevcairiel
07:38.23nevcairielI only troll QQ'ing
07:38.25nevcairielbecause its stupid
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07:40.25CIA-45LittleWigs:
07:40.25CIA-45- fix typo
07:40.25CIA-45- add Ingvar 'Growl'
07:40.34Elkanoslow CIA is slow...
07:42.17theoddone33no downranking? wow
07:42.57mitch0elkano: are there any API changes in WotLK? or just the new spells and such?
07:43.02theoddone33I guess you have to roll a new healer and only buy up to rank 2 of gheal
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07:43.23Elkanomitch0, bunch of API changes
07:43.45mitch0elkano: any docs somewhere? I know I'm lame, but I couldn't find them so far :)
07:44.03ElkanoUS UI forums?
07:44.43mitch0damn, at least the UI forums should be merged in .eu and .us ...
07:45.00nevcairieljust ignore EU UI forums
07:45.03nevcairielnothing good in there
07:45.40mitch0I just can't decide where to continue my addon dev
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07:59.04Adirelle|workactually non-US authors cannot post to US UI forums, where things matter
07:59.11Adirelle|workthat's pretty annoying
08:00.36digmousejust need a us account
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08:03.01Fisker-digmouse, correction, just need US to l2p
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08:13.46CIA-45-add zhTW
08:14.08digmousedont know whether need a active account to post
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08:14.38CIA-45SBFOptions:
08:14.38CIA-45-add zhTW
08:14.41orionshockdigmouse: i think so
08:15.12digmousemy eu account dont get paid since mar. 2007
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08:20.10CIA-45SatrinaBuffFrame:
08:20.10CIA-45-oh no I lost my end
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08:29.49digmousereally, i wont
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08:48.31XuerianGoing to guess it was too OP
08:48.34orionshocki thought it was an ability proc not weapon proc?
08:51.07Elkanobut they broke Blood Aura :(
08:51.53Pneumatusbroke, or fixed?
08:54.05orionshockwhoa shit, 3k oblit
08:54.25Elkanobroke... seems like if you skill it to 2/2 it vanishes somehow
08:55.40Pneumatustried switching to frost presence then back to blood?
08:55.52Pneumatusit was playing up last patch as well
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09:10.20Lukianwtf ><
09:10.27LukianI lost all my AuldLangSyne data
09:10.46Lukianall my friend notes are gone
09:12.43Lukianhmm wonder how old my last manual backup is
09:12.58LukianI'm guessing the update I just did to it reset all it's data :(
09:14.58winkillerthanks for warning :P
09:15.09winkillernot that I care.. I only need synching
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09:17.58Lukianlol
09:18.06Lukianthat badckup was 233 days old
09:22.03vithosLukian, what about the .lua.bak in savedvariables?  already overwritten?
09:22.43Lukianyeah already overwritten
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09:32.33dafirehi all
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11:03.20CairennGagorian: ping?
11:09.34CIA-4503pneumatus * r80416 10ClassLoot/ (5 files):
11:09.34CIA-45ClassLoot:
11:09.34CIA-45- Code tidy
11:09.34CIA-45- Stars are now shown as the 'star' raid icon rather than asterisks.
11:09.34CIA-45- Check if the item is valid before we attempt a PT lookup
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11:46.28Trell_any shamans on the beta atm?
11:46.44Trell_I *think* Earthliving (weapon buff) has a new sound and animation
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11:48.45Trell_ah and AGUF is displaying the aura times wrong since the latest patch
11:49.03Trell_it's saying 49m left on a buff that has 9m :P
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11:52.47ElkanoTrell_, mind checking if EBB is doing it correct for you?
11:54.24Kepplaying without sound, haha
11:55.09Trell_you updated EBB?
11:55.20Trell_I'll download it now, in a branch?
11:55.32Trell_I use ebb on live :)
11:59.23Elkanoyeah, it's in branches
11:59.53Trell_well
12:00.16Trell_it pops an error
12:00.18Trell_lemme SS
12:01.04Elkanoare you running disembedded?
12:01.19Trell_emb
12:02.00Elkanohmmm
12:02.12Trell_http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/8/14/f_ebbm_8e742f1.jpg
12:02.15Arrowmasterdisembedded is broken
12:02.20Trell_that error pops up when you mouseover
12:02.30Trell_*mouseover the frame for the buffs
12:02.55Arrowmasterrightclick the blue bliz symbol on minimap and disable the tooltip hinks
12:02.57Arrowmasterhints
12:03.08Elkanotip: get !BugGrabber + BugSack from branches, too
12:03.15Trell_k
12:03.26Arrowmasternot branches afaik
12:03.27Trell_fixed it, thanks Arrowmaster
12:03.29Arrowmasteri forget
12:03.30ElkanoArrowmaster, I have them enabled but it's not bugging for me
12:03.59ElkanoArrowmaster, at least I use your version from branches ^^
12:04.06Arrowmasterdont
12:04.41Arrowmasterthose are like mid process converstion stuff
12:05.01Arrowmasterthe ones in trunk work fine if you use ace2 from wotlk branch
12:05.13Elkanowell, working fine ^^ but if you say so ^^
12:05.31Arrowmasteryou dont want to know how much i broke them while working on them
12:06.33Trell_err Elkano; I hid the anchor and now I can't get it back
12:06.38Fisker-Ackis
12:06.40Fisker-your addon sucks
12:06.43Fisker-and you should feel bad
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12:07.06Elkanohmm... also not via the minimap button?
12:07.23Trell_nope
12:07.45Trell_got it, it was hidden down a sub menu
12:09.03Elkanowell, alt+leftclick on a bar should bring up the anchor, too
12:14.29Trell_gah, was speeding through the stupid alliance q in farshire with the converting of the farming machine robot thingys
12:14.35Trell_and the world server goes down :(
12:15.56Elkanoah, EU beta? ^^
12:17.28Trell_yeah
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12:18.07Elkanome too ^^
12:18.26Trell_alliance?
12:18.29Elkanoyeah
12:18.33Trell_nice
12:18.41Trell_what class?
12:18.51ElkanoDK ;)
12:18.55Trell_hehe
12:20.17Elkanoserver re
12:20.28Trell_im desperate to get into Azjol-Nerub, bored of Nexus and Utgarde
12:20.33Elkanoat least it was loading :/
12:20.47Trell_yeah it loads fine, just pops up World Server Down for Northrend at least
12:20.52Elkanohaven't been into an instance on beta, yet
12:21.15Trell_Utgarde is blatantly Ramparts :P
12:21.20Trell_nice and fast, not too hard
12:21.34Trell_the first boss in The Nexus, Telestra, is insane
12:21.42PneumatusA'N is a pretty cool instance :>
12:22.09Trell_someone said its only 15m long?
12:22.11Pneumatushalls of stone is clearly a combination of the best T4 bosses
12:22.18Pneumatusyeh, its real quick
12:22.20Trell_sod all trash, and just mainly boss fights
12:22.57GagorianCairenn: pong?
12:23.03Cairennah ha!
12:24.23Trell_Elkano; im in
12:24.36Elkanoyeah, me too... but the world is ... well
12:26.10Trell_ah its gonna go down again, so much lag
12:27.08Elkanoyeah
12:27.51ElkanoI just died because my char didn't attack but was attacked over and over again by mobs that weren't even in range :/
12:28.26Elkanowell, but at least I was faster than the server so he couldn't port me to the graveyard ^^
12:28.48Trell_I gave up and started loading TF2 instead
12:28.59CIA-4503digmouse * r80417 10Antagonist/Locals/zhCN.lua:
12:28.59CIA-45Antagonist:
12:28.59CIA-45-Typos away
12:29.10digmousewhy they changed the extended shadow quality settings?
12:29.36digmousenow i need to set it to level 5, or there is no shadow for my character
12:29.37Zyndromep3lim , latest oUF + your layout = error bonanza! :D
12:30.11Elkanook, now he did port me to the graveyard ^^
12:30.23Elkanoalthough I was still alive
12:30.37p3limZyndrome: what oUF version?
12:30.55Zyndromejust updated to the latest version, 19 hour old
12:31.09ZyndromeoShit: (143): Interface\AddOns\oUF_P3lim\oUF_P3lim.lua:29: Usage: UnitClass("unit")
12:31.18Zyndromeloopyloop
12:32.56p3limodd
12:33.15p3limline 143?
12:33.27p3limno wait >_>
12:33.27Zyndromeno
12:33.46p3limill update and check
12:40.36ccKepeu-coldarra running worse and worse with each patch they apply
12:40.41ccKepthats absolutely amazing
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12:40.57Zyndromealso after I selected a banker: oShit: (167): Interface\AddOns\oUF_P3lim\oUF_P3lim.lua:71: Usage: UnitIsDead("unit")
12:41.03dafireis there a oUF documentation/howto/tips or anything document ? :)
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12:47.56p3limhm.. I pushed r10 live, should be up soon
12:48.10p3limbut what were you doing at the time this errors occured?
12:48.19p3limand do you have a full trace log if possible?
12:50.43Zyndromenothing really, it spews out errors as soon as I select any unit
12:51.51p3limon what char were you playing?
12:52.04Zyndromemy stinky hunter
12:52.32p3limwith pet out?
12:52.50Zyndromeno
12:52.58Zyndromelogs to another alt
12:53.22Zyndromesame on shaman
12:54.55Zyndromehttp://i36.tinypic.com/2uswx0h.jpg
12:55.00Zyndromelooks like that regardless of character
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12:57.22p3limYou using stable oUF release from WoWI?
12:58.41dafirehas anybody done that zoom debuffs if only few and getting smaller with more debuffs done from the standard ui with ouf ?
12:58.49Zyndromedoh
12:59.18Zyndromewas using latest from http://ixo.no/cgit/cgit.cgi :P
12:59.25p3limah theres your issue
13:00.09p3limthe master from git is for WotLK and wont work with the stable release of my layout
13:00.19p3lim(though works with the beta layout i have for WotLK)
13:00.40Zyndromehealthbar still stays red though after losing aggro (banzai)
13:01.09p3limi dont have banzai support for my layout so..
13:01.29p3limbut nevertheless it should work by itself, so you might have an issue with banzai
13:01.36Zyndrome*squinty eyes*
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13:21.05Lyn_p3lim, ping
13:21.21p3limLyn_: pong
13:21.50Lyn_is it possible to emulate the raid frames in ouf? so i can test if it they work?
13:21.55Lyn_i dont want to wait 20 min to get into av XD
13:23.53p3limIm not sure tbh, you could either ask haste or look trough how PitBull does it
13:24.03p3limoh and 20min? o.O
13:24.07p3lim3 sec here
13:24.30Lyn_-.-
13:24.45Lyn_corruption (german version "verderbnis") alliance has shitty waiting times
13:24.58p3limvashj, BG9 (i think)
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13:27.49ccKepfury of blackrock pulses through my veins, goddamn lags
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13:42.01steevokay so
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13:42.26steevusing button paging, and possessing - is there a way to set those hotkeys? or are those set in the keybindings interface and im just retarded looking around in bt3's config?
13:43.09steevi.e. pressing shift = bar 2, i'd like bar2's hotkeys to be shift+# rather than just # or whatever the key is that the button is
13:45.13steevapparently not
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13:50.52Kaelteng'morning guys
13:51.36Lyn_morning :X
13:51.50Zyndrome*heavy breathing*
13:51.53ccKepheya
13:52.06Groktarhihi
13:52.28Groktarjust finished watching usa vs greece in basketball
13:53.07fewynhi Kalroth
13:53.10fewyni mean Kaelten
13:53.14Kalroth:(
13:53.15fewynstabs his tab key
13:53.20fewynbut hi Kalroth too
13:53.54Kaeltenlol
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13:54.21KalrothOh no you don't, it doens't work that way!
13:54.43Josh_Borke~lart Kaelten
13:54.44purlblasts Kaelten to oblivion with a kamehameha wave
13:54.55Kaelten~lart Josh_Borke
13:54.55purlwhips out a sword and chops Josh_Borke in half
13:55.13Groktardrinks Josh_Borke blood
13:55.21Kaeltenkinky
13:55.31Groktarblood orgy GO!
13:55.50Josh_Borkemorning Kalroth
13:55.53Josh_Borkeer, i mean Kaelten
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13:55.56Kalroth@#¤%!
13:55.58Josh_Borke;-P
13:56.06Kaelten~comfort Kalroth
13:56.07purlThere, there, Kalroth.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
13:56.19Josh_Borke~emulate Josh_Borke
13:56.19purlACTION hugs Cairenn
13:56.24KalrothThat's so Eyonix
13:56.32Josh_Borkewho?
13:56.35Cairennhugs Josh_Borke
13:57.27Groktarcleans Josh_Borke's intestines to be used for sausage
13:57.29Kaelten~hugs Cairenn
13:57.30purlhugs Cairenn even though it's not "prim & proper" to do so
13:58.06Cairenno.O
13:58.12Cairennhugs Kaelten
13:59.12KalrothThat's a lot of hugging!
13:59.20Obelixprimeoh purl
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14:17.15nevcairielanyone got a Lvl70 Druid on Beta?
14:17.45fewynme
14:18.19nevcairielI need the new mana cost for a Rank 13 Healing Touch
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14:18.23Megalonnevcairiel: lvl74
14:18.28nevcairielspecifically on Lvl 70
14:18.33nevcairielbecause it changes with level now
14:18.46nevcairielI only have 75 and 71 :(
14:18.49Megalonoh i have him with 70 :>
14:18.52Megaloncopied him twice
14:18.55fewyni have a 70
14:18.56Pneumatusas its a percentage of base mana, will it differ between elves and cows?
14:18.57fewynhe's twice copied
14:19.10fewynnew mana cost?
14:19.11fewynkk sec
14:19.17fewynlogging in
14:19.47durcynPneumatus: the only race that gets screwed is gnome i think
14:19.54Pneumatusnevcairiel: base mana of druids is 2370 apparently
14:19.55Pneumatusif that helps
14:20.02nevcairieldepends on level =P
14:20.04Pneumatus(at 70)
14:20.12nevcairielI dont know the percentage
14:20.19nevcairielthats what i want to figure out
14:20.20vithoshaha, gnome int counts as base?
14:20.43Megalonretrieving character list :>
14:21.03vithossurely not
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14:21.18Pneumatusi doubt it, it's a modifier on your total int isnt it
14:21.59nevcairielMan and i thought the latest patch fixed the beta servers again
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14:22.33fewyni'm naked
14:22.40fewyni have 3815 mana
14:22.47fewynand ht rank 13 is 924 mana
14:22.54chexsumgrr @ patch
14:22.55nevcairieli have 3890 on live, crazy =P
14:23.05fewyni'm a tauren
14:23.14winkillers/tauren/cow/
14:23.23fewynat least my model is fixed now
14:23.26Groktar924 doesn't sound bad at all for max rank
14:23.28Pneumatuswowwiki fails once again then: http://www.wowwiki.com/Base_Mana
14:23.37Groktargheal 7 untalented is like 810
14:23.48Groktarlevel 70 heal
14:23.48nevcairielits 11 below the old value
14:23.50nevcairielso yay
14:24.02nevcairielGroktar: thats the lvl 70 version, not lvl 80 max
14:24.07Groktaro
14:24.17Groktaris ht going to be useful in wotlk?
14:24.32nevcairielnah
14:24.35fewynunlikely
14:24.38nevcairieli'm just using it as a calculation example
14:24.52Groktarso is it going to be regrowth spam?
14:24.53Pneumatusno more shamans spamming CL rank 1 now though
14:25.00Pneumatuser
14:25.01PneumatusCH
14:25.31Groktarisn't this really going to screw over paladins?
14:25.50Groktarbecause the whole point was that they would downrank a ton
14:25.53Adirelle|workbtw, I was unable to find any page that lists characteristic increases by level
14:26.12Obelixprimea lot of healers downrank
14:26.16Obelixprimeshaman, priests
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14:26.47ulicyea on boss fights especially, my shammy downranked HW
14:26.50Groktarya, but they built in a fix for priests
14:26.58Pneumatusi play priest and down downrank
14:27.12Pneumatuss/down /don't /
14:27.13nevcairielman EU beta still fails
14:27.15nevcairiellet me in already
14:27.16Groktarpriests i know in beta were already using max rank because of serendipity
14:27.18ulicguess I can take that binding out of clique on the beta server.
14:27.27steevi never downrank, i just always use rank 1  chain heal
14:27.35Groktarheh
14:27.48Groktari usually spam gheal 2
14:28.02Groktarsince i can spam it indefinitely if necessary
14:28.31Groktarwell, maybe sometime around the 10 minute mark i might go oom
14:28.34steevi don't remember how many times i can cast it
14:28.43steevbut in a raid i've got 14 or so k mana
14:28.55steevDAMN IT
14:28.58Groktartalking with raid buffs, consumables, no spriest
14:29.01steevkicks wau and then himself
14:29.11chexsumspam on a priest?
14:29.16Pneumatusi've never had the need to downrank, i always cast max rank fheal/gheal/renew/coh/pom
14:29.37Groktarwell everything you listed except for gheal should be max rank
14:29.37chexsumsame
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14:29.58Groktarhates his lousy 288mp5 unbuffed
14:30.05chexsumi use gheal 3 and 5
14:30.41Pneumatusi have about 1100mp5 outside 5sr raidbuffed, so i just pause between casts :)
14:30.42Groktari keep 2 and 7 on my bars, with rank 1 in a focustarget macro
14:30.54chexsummax on tanks
14:31.13Groktarorly?
14:31.23chexsum3 and 5 are my clique ranks
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14:31.54chexsumim at 550 mp5 outside 5sr i think
14:32.16Groktarouchies
14:32.16chexsumabout 275 inside
14:32.19Groktaryou need spirit!
14:32.27Pneumatus688 unbuffed, 247 inside
14:32.34AckisWorkPneumatus: are you serious? O_o
14:32.37Groktarchecks
14:32.38nevcairielI'm at 450 inside
14:32.42chexsumi use renew/prom mostly
14:32.43nevcairielfully buffed
14:32.43AckisWorknever having to downrank?
14:32.44nevcairiel=P
14:32.58PneumatusAckisWork: yup, i never downrank, and never have mana issues
14:33.03AckisWorkiirc I'm around 500 while casting 1100 while not fully raid buffed
14:33.07Groktarthat's about exactly where i am nevcairiel
14:33.20AckisWorkI'm always down ranking except renew, pom, poh
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14:33.29nevcairielI generally never downrank
14:33.32Roblibobnerf humans
14:33.32nevcairieland i never have mana issues
14:33.41AckisWorkgheal 5 for twins, gheal 6 for zomg oh shit, gheal 2 for standard, flash 4 and max flash
14:33.44nevcairielbut i'm not a sucky priest either, so yeah =P
14:33.54AckisWorknevcairiel: you're just a sucky something else? :P
14:33.56chexsum<-- kara geared priest
14:34.08AckisWork<-- priest with KJ loot
14:34.26nevcairielI think my highest loot is Brutallus
14:34.30Pneumatusbadge/t5/t6ish gear
14:34.37nevcairielI need to get something from the others =P
14:34.42Groktarok, i'm actually 692/287 unbuffed
14:34.43Stanzillaneed shoes :(
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14:34.46chexsumive never seen any end game content
14:34.49Pneumatusinfact, not really T6 at all apart from my bracers from rage
14:34.56chexsumive got 135k hks though lol
14:35.03RoblibobI have swp/t6 i use rank 4 for spamming and maxrank usually.
14:35.04Groktari have some sunwell gear, some bt gear, and some /boggle gear
14:35.20Ellipsisnref Groktar
14:35.30Roblibobrank 1 prayer of healing on felmyst :p
14:35.39Groktarew
14:36.01Groktari coh spam on felmyst
14:36.03Stanzilla< heals with shadow specc
14:36.14AckisWorkCoH spam on felmyst? did you kill him?
14:36.17Stanzilla...in mana tombs normal mode
14:36.18Groktarif i go into air phase with over 25% mana i failed
14:36.20chexsumdisc for life
14:36.46Groktarmm Ackis?
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14:37.06AckisWorkCoH eats up your GCDs so you can't dispell when needed
14:37.21Pneumatusleave that to paladins imo
14:37.24Groktari don't dispel
14:37.29Groktarwe're spriest heavy
14:37.33chexsumdispelling is for pallys
14:37.38Roblibobluxury :p
14:37.44steevdamn
14:37.48steevwe have one spriest in our guild
14:37.55steevand one mage, but its our mt's alt
14:37.58chexsumthey do it for free and pve stuff only does 1 debuff
14:37.59Groktarimo, it's better to keep people topped going into gas nova in case there's an immediate encaps
14:38.00nevcairielour holys do one mass dispel, all the special dispels are done by pallys or spriets
14:38.27Pneumatusi dont want to be dicking around wasting my gcd on dispel magic when i can be laying out some sexy heals with coh
14:38.29Stanzillawe sometimes do felmyst with 4 shadows^^
14:38.31Groktarimagine it comes at the end of your poh, so your group is already down 2k
14:38.37Groktaryou have to cancel
14:38.40Groktardispell
14:38.44AckisWorkwe had 2 spriests MD and me as holy
14:38.46Groktarnow your group is down 4k+
14:38.53Groktarand then encaps comes on your group
14:39.01Groktarbad news
14:39.15Roblibobthats why i do rank 1, just spam it and top everyone up every tick
14:39.25AckisWorkpriests that rely on CoH make me facepalm and they're bad
14:39.39Roblibobcoh is for twins :p
14:39.43Groktarhehe
14:40.03AckisWorkI don't even spam CoH on twins
14:40.05Robliboblooking forward to wotlk, i hope the coh changes will stand
14:40.16Groktaruse a bit of everything on twins
14:40.22Groktarbut coh is the majority of my healing
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14:40.30Groktarlike, flame sear hits
14:40.33Punkiehmm, oki dokie - http://tinyurl.com/6eqwpf (sorta nsfw)
14:40.34Roblibobpom is imba for the fire debuff
14:40.37Groktari pom one person, flash another
14:40.47Groktarand then coh whatever is left
14:41.04AckisWorkrenew/PoM = my heals
14:41.12Groktarpeople who can't configure their grid make me /facepalm
14:41.21AckisWorkI'll spam CoH P2 of M'uru depending on my heal assignment
14:41.33AckisWorkand spam CoH during collapse on KJ
14:41.38Groktarcan't figure out who encapsulate is on, who needs to get healed first because of flame sear, etc
14:42.00Groktarya, usually they put me on melee on muru p2
14:42.10Groktarthey tell me just to make sure they don't die
14:42.21AckisWorkpriest on melee isn't the smartest thing, I'd rather see a shaman brainhealing them
14:42.27Groktarmostly coh them and pom every cd
14:42.49PneumatusCoH is winnar at bloodboil :>
14:42.51RoblibobGroktar: yes, grid, i made a post on our guilds healer forum and now all questions goes to me.. :/
14:42.55Groktaron our kill i went oom 80 seconds in and jumped into a void zone for sor goodness
14:42.56Groktar:D
14:43.01AckisWorkPneumatus: renew > CoH :P
14:43.13winkillerstop making me jealous with your sunwell talk :<
14:43.14Pneumatusmy renew doesnt tick enough to keep them alive with that alone
14:43.47Groktarwhat i REALLY hate
14:43.52Groktaris they put me on burn healing
14:43.55Groktar><
14:44.04nevcairielI usually do that
14:44.06nevcairielbeing a druid
14:44.09nevcairielso smooth
14:44.16Groktarya, but druids are good at it
14:44.21Groktarpriests are horrible
14:44.32durcynwe use a paladin and a druid
14:44.33Groktarburn can tick 3 times between a gheal
14:45.01Groktarya, pally holy lights are under 2s in sunwell gear
14:45.07Groktarwell under
14:45.14durcynyeah, full haste on both
14:45.26durcyni think one of our resto druids is almost up to 6 lifeblooms
14:45.32Groktardruid basically does all the work and i just keep them topped off
14:45.54winkillerWTF
14:45.55winkiller6?
14:46.02winkillerI can do 3 with my lag
14:46.11nevcairielYou can do 4 without any haste
14:46.32nevcairiel6 with haste is a real stretch, thats too much haste to really be viable, imho
14:46.47winkillerI can't do 4 :(
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14:46.54winkillerbut then I've healed 4 instances in my life
14:49.52durcynnevcairiel: well, five anyway, looks like he has 315 haste in armory atm
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14:51.19nevcairielGetting haste for druids is such a stupid task, you have to collect really alot before its viable (without dropping all the other good stats)
14:51.22dieckhm, is there a kind of php "$$varname" in lua? I have a string "tablename" and want to set the table tablename to nil.
14:51.28nevcairielso you bank alot of the stuff away
14:51.31nevcairieluntil you have a full set
14:52.11krkadieck: use _G or getfenv(0)
14:52.21Zyndromehttp://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zrSwaA-FAj4&fmt=16
14:55.36fewynblizzcon tickets are on ebay for 500-100$ >_>
14:55.41Ellipsisyawns
14:56.16winkillerlol
14:56.38Stanzillaw00t. login worked \o/
14:56.51fewyni hope everyone realizes you need the to be person that actually bought the tickets to pick them up at blizzcon
14:57.44dieckkrka: thx, looks good
14:57.45fewynstupid ticket scalpers
14:58.10ag`I thought they nur
14:58.22ag`nerfed zombie spam, why is the beta still slow?
14:58.36ag`stuck at loading screen forever :P
14:59.01Daemonacause euro world server is down the 4th time in 30 minutes?
14:59.36dieckDaemona: do you mean login? world servers are realm specific afaik :)
14:59.49Daemonayeah euro northrend world
15:00.16dieckah, beta euro northrend world .)
15:00.36CIA-4503doktorjet * r80420 10Cryolysis2/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
15:00.36CIA-45Cryolysis2:
15:00.36CIA-45- added ruRU locale with random messages
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15:03.05MegalonDaemona: northrend was up at one time in the last 30minutes? ;)
15:03.37CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80421 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/auras/auras.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fixed aura cooldown dial
15:04.48CIA-4503doktorjet * r80422 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-ruRU.lua: GatherMate: small fix in ruRU locale
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15:07.09Stanzillaoh noes, the archievement frame crashes wow :(
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15:20.50fewynhmm
15:20.56fewynis potion sickness still in the beta?
15:21.15fewyni can't remember if i saw it last night while leveling
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15:21.26AckisWorkiirc they removed it
15:21.39fewynplease say they did
15:21.43fewyni thought it was the worst idea ever
15:22.54nevcairieli kinda liked the idea
15:22.57fewynoh poo
15:22.58nevcairielgoes to drink one
15:23.05fewynAckisWork they just removed the debuff
15:23.14AckisWorkI liked the idea
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15:25.08ckknightI liked the idea as well, that way they could structure boss fights to not be potion-centric
15:25.16ckknightshrugs
15:25.17Aiiwhy do you think it was the worst idea ever fewyn
15:25.39fewyn|clonei just don't like it
15:25.43Xinhuanit sorta killed alchemy as a profession
15:25.50Xinhuanif it remained
15:25.51fewyni'm used to popping my pots like crazy on my spriest
15:26.00fewynand i like it that way
15:26.05fewynit means i don't have mana issues
15:26.06ckknighto noes, your playstyle might change
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15:26.16fewynno mana issues = good
15:26.20fewynmana issues = bad
15:26.23Aiium, you think they're not going to balance wotlk fights so you dont have to?
15:26.28nevcairielmana issues = play better
15:26.33nevcairiel:)
15:26.47fewynAii: sadly yes =p
15:26.52AckisWorknevcairiel: do m'uru w/o mana pots :P
15:26.54fewyni think they'll fuck it up
15:27.26Aiiif there's one area blizzard has not generally had issues on, it's tuning high level content
15:27.37AckisWorkaii: WTF are you serious?
15:27.48steevheh
15:27.49AiiAckisWork: yes, I'm serious. the exceptions are generally few.
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15:28.09fewynthey are seriously horrible at it, i've watched friends on m'uru
15:28.12AckisWorksunwell was tuned very well, previously... hahahhahahahahahahahahahaha
15:28.17AckisWorkmuru is tuned perfectly
15:28.45nevcairielMost fights that seem to be "impossible" and require a nerf mostly are like that on purpose to block progression
15:28.51nevcairieland thats another topic =P
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15:29.21AckisWorkc'thun, veal v1, mother, that one in naxx (4h iirc)
15:29.22dafirehmm.. beta login is not really faster this patch ?
15:29.37fewynYou create: [Sorcerer's Alchemist Stone].
15:29.50fewynyay
15:29.57profalbertgratz
15:30.06profalbertI created that one too, same evening I got the skull
15:30.16AiiAckisWork: you've just quoted me 4 bosses, out of how many raid bosses are there in the game?
15:30.40fewynyes but those other bosses have been dead forever
15:30.57nevcairielafter the re-tune patch for all those bosses, they hit a pretty good balance
15:31.04nevcairieland i still think they did it on purpose
15:31.08nevcairielso they know what they do
15:31.13AckisWorkaii: that's not counting for the fact that other bosses were broke but people overcame them
15:31.30Aiibut looking at the most similar change to the potion change
15:31.32fewynit's just like the changes to flasks/elixirs
15:31.37Aii^
15:31.42fewyni don't like it now
15:31.43Aiithey accounted for that fine
15:31.47fewynbut i might like it later
15:31.52fewynwhen they tune things correctly
15:31.53AiiI think you're just an alchemist who's bitter, fewyn :P
15:31.59fewynDur
15:32.13fewynI'm an alchemist, I should be able to chain chug imo
15:32.18nevcairielI like the new elixir system
15:32.36nevcairielit was stupid that you had to carry 10 different exlixir types with you
15:32.38AiiI'm an enchanter, I should be able to stack multiple ring enchants on my rings imo
15:32.48fewynyes you should Aii!
15:32.53Aii-_-
15:32.54fewynbecause then my lock could too!
15:33.05nevcairielBut you know what, good that you dont decide what happens :D
15:33.18fewynYep!
15:33.22AckisWorknevcairiel: I thought you were busy? :P hehehehe
15:33.31nevcairielJust an excuse
15:33.39AckisWorkyah I know
15:33.44AckisWork:P
15:33.44fewynI don't like changes, but I am addiced so I live with said changes.
15:36.12Stanzillapotion sickness is still in but not shown as a debuff
15:36.33nevcairielthey should've left the debuff
15:36.37nevcairielit looked nice
15:37.03chexsumis there any revision patch notes available for beta ?
15:39.21Daemonai bet they dont want to do it as a real debuff
15:39.26Daemonacause rogues could cloak it off
15:39.29Daemonagrins.
15:39.32cncfanaticsno they couldn't
15:39.40cncfanaticsthere are already debuffs rogues can't cloak out :p
15:39.46cncfanaticss/out/out of/
15:39.48Daemonanot many ;)
15:42.28cncfanaticswho cares if there aren't many ? :p it means they're perfectly able to make debuffs not cloakable of
15:43.27Aiithey can even make debuffs non-bubbleable, iirc
15:43.38Aiilike Az's doom debuff
15:44.27Stanzillaag`: aguf's mana bar flickers a bit when regging
15:44.40AckisWorkanyone know of an addon that has a list of tabs, and when you click on a tab, a second list of tabs appears under it?
15:52.21Aiihonestly fewyn
15:52.31Aiii more dislike the downranking changes
15:52.51Aiinot being able to use holy nova rank2 to kill snaketraps for cheap = sadface
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15:54.57dafireis there a way to simulate many buffs/debuffs with ouf ?
15:56.19AiiAV. :P
15:57.43dafirehmm... i thought about 20+
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15:59.24Gnarfozulic: ping
16:02.08Gnarfozanyone else? http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/branches?cs=80403 <- this basically breaks the addon, right? ^^
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16:05.27Stanzillayup
16:06.07Gnarfozdurrr translators :>
16:06.07CIA-4503gnarfoz 07wotlk * r80423 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/LittleWigs.toc: LittleWigs_WotLK: revert .toc file name change. .toc file name has to be identical to the folder name for an addon to work.
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16:06.57nevcairielGnarfoz: you fail, too
16:07.16Gnarfozdon't tell me it didn't remove the other .toc file?
16:08.00Ellipsiswhy must translators fail :<
16:08.08nevcairielGnarfoz: it deleted the wrong file
16:08.16nevcairielGnarfoz: didnt re-add the correct file, though =P
16:08.19Gnarfozdurrrr non-translators
16:08.22Ellipsisyeah you deleted the old file but forgot to svn add the toc before committing :P
16:08.43Gnarfozit deleted the correct one alright
16:09.06Gnarfozand no, I don't even use the command line client, and yes, I added it. it's still added. I just had the old file highlighted and thus only that modification got commited
16:09.09Gnarfoz:D
16:09.12Ellipsisman if I had known the server would crash right at that instant allowing me to rez without a corpse run...I wouldn't have wasted the soulstone on it XD
16:09.35CIA-4503gnarfoz 07wotlk * r80424 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/LittleWigs_WotLK.toc:
16:09.35CIA-45LittleWigs_WotLK: hard GUI is hard to use.
16:09.35CIA-45~lart Gnarfoz
16:09.35purlnabs the moon and broadsides Gnarfoz with the sea of tranquility
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16:22.18chexsumomg @ bloodworm nerf :(
16:22.45dafirehmm.. how do I make that a fontstring shortens the text with "..." if it's to long ? .9
16:22.59Fisker-it's not a complete nerf chexsum :P
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16:24.29ccKepnew bloodworms fail -.-
16:24.41ccKep(and lootlag legendaryfails)
16:25.22ccKepevery stupid quest that provides  a questitem, needs a questitem to complete or rewards you with an item just takes hours to either accept or turn in
16:26.04Pneumatusi still think they should have an option of "just give me the gold" if you dont want any of the items
16:26.19fewyndisenchant!
16:26.21ccKepthey should just fix that nasty bug
16:26.22fewynvendor!
16:26.58Pneumatusi mean, they should offer you the gold that the most expensive item sells for, to save you vendoring it
16:27.00ccKepeverytime a new stack is created in your inventory the whole client/server fucks up
16:27.12Pneumatus(and therefore save spawning a new item to the world server to get despawned once its sold)
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16:32.14CIA-4503borlox * r80425 10Fortress/ (Core.lua Fortress.toc Options.lua):
16:32.14CIA-45Fortress:
16:32.14CIA-45- added andreasg to the authors, thanks for all the work ag!
16:32.14CIA-45- reworked settings
16:32.14CIA-45- added some new options (textColor, blockScale, blockAlpha)
16:32.14CIA-45- still needs some testing
16:32.16CIA-45- some changes i've already forgotten
16:36.09ag`Stanzilla, flickers?
16:39.34ulicGnarfoz: are you making a mess?
16:39.43Gnarfozulic: undoing one, rather
16:39.47ulichehe
16:40.02ulicundoing my mess or yours?
16:40.09Gnarfoz7destiny's
16:40.13Gnarfozhe renamed the toc file
16:40.18Gnarfozfor reasons beyond my understanding :p
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16:40.24ulicoh, silly translators
16:42.41ulicI got a log file for some other instances, gonna work on those this weekend, and hopefully get around to doing a few runs of my own.
16:44.03ulicoh, he's actually trying to add stuff.
16:44.05Gnarfozserver keeps crashing, thus I lose my lfg status, I forget to set it up again --> no instances xD
16:44.22Gnarfozyeah, but he kind of broke the entire addon in the process by renaming the .toc ;D
16:45.47TecnoBratwoot
16:45.53TecnoBratthey renamed the DK starting zone
16:45.57TecnoBratthank you blizzard
16:46.16ulicTecnoBrat: what is it now?
16:46.27TecnoBrat"Plaguelands: The Scarlet Enclave"
16:46.31ccKepyou better hope to not get a quest that involves items ^.^
16:46.33TecnoBratbefore it was "Eastern Plaguelands"
16:46.52Fisker-~cartographer3
16:46.52purl[cartographer3] the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
16:47.50ulicwe need commit hooks that force people to be in irc, so I can tell them they don't need to do string formats on all casts.
16:48.05TecnoBratI had to do some creative hacking to detect the difference between the real one and the DK starting area before, heh
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16:52.29ckknightulic: hrm, funnily enough, I could add that.
16:52.33ckknightbut I'm not gonna
16:53.42Xinhuanis 75 Celsius a healthy gxcard temperature? heh
16:53.55TecnoBratXinhuan, 85 is better
16:54.17Xinhuanmy card is at 75 and i'm wondering if its worth overclocking it slightly
16:55.08Gnarfozyou could, but do you need to?
16:55.20Xinhuannot really
16:55.46Gnarfozthen I suggest you don't ;)
16:56.05Gnarfoztemperature+ => lifetime-
16:57.06ulicckknight: but once we move to curse I can lock people out right, so I cn slap em around a bit before they can commit :)
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16:57.43ckknightyea
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17:03.00CIA-4503LordFarlander * r80426 10Baldrick/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
17:03.00CIA-45Baldrick:
17:03.00CIA-45- Expanded quest module support. It is now possible for quests to have functions that are ran on certain events, as well as register for anything that uses CallbackHandler (By giving the event name as "Library:Event")
17:03.00CIA-45- Some optimizing
17:03.00CIA-45- DailyQuest module moved into its own file.
17:03.02CIA-45- Added some known WotLK dailies.
17:03.06CIA-45- Germal localizations moved into their own file.
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17:12.02jy__oh, coldarra not in better shape than yesterday
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17:15.42fewyn"You are now Exalted with Frostwolf Clan."
17:15.45fewynon my new 70 hunter
17:15.47fewynalready
17:15.48fewynLOL
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17:21.45Ellipsisugh, blizzard, would it kill you to put just a few non-mechanical mobs in fizzcrank so people who rely on vampiric effects can actually do the quests?
17:21.49CIA-4503ackis * r80427 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua:
17:21.49CIA-45WelfareEpics:
17:21.49CIA-45- Have two layers of tabs. Frst layer is: Armour, Weapon, Other. Second layer is the type of category, ie: Cloth
17:21.49CIA-45- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
17:22.38jy__Ellipsis: yeah immune mobs are bad
17:23.16Ellipsistell me about it
17:23.21Ellipsisevery quest has been easy until this hub
17:23.26Ellipsisnow I'm in danger of dying every single fight :/
17:23.36fewynEllipsis: I know it's evil right?
17:23.44fewynis a shadow priest too
17:24.02EllipsisI'm an aff lock :P
17:24.11fewynoh
17:24.13fewynclose enough!
17:24.26fewyni have one of those too
17:24.26Groktarsends some fine wimmens to show Ellipsis a good time
17:24.28Groktarhttp://media.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2008/july/ohio/nunez540.jpg
17:24.29Ellipsisyup, same problem
17:24.35Ellipsisalthough I guess I could use a pet to help or something
17:25.19fewyni made my VW tank while i was being an affliction lock while leveling
17:25.34fewynpeople said i was being stupid for not drain tanking, but i felt safer my way
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17:31.35ag`ffs give me my damn char list
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17:33.10CIA-4503ackis * r80428 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua:
17:33.10CIA-45WelfareEpics:
17:33.10CIA-45- Add tables for new categories
17:33.11CIA-45- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
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17:46.07NeoTronso we learned one thing last night - phase 1 to phase 2 muru transition is harder than phase 2 to 3 vashj or any other transition... by a long shot
17:46.23NeoTronalthough I suppost to a large degree it's just getting used to it
17:46.55ccKepjust plan to do it at a certain time
17:47.10NeoTronyeah
17:47.12ccKepeg. "transistion in 30s - be ready to burn mobs" and such
17:47.15NeoTronwe got that far
17:47.29NeoTronit's planning the transition and getting timing down that's the trick
17:47.44ccKepsomeone at the humanoids side should make the final call
17:47.45NeoTronbefore tonight we'd made phase 2 twice, both times the prot pally died 5-14s or so before transition
17:47.54ccKepwhen like 1.5 humanoids are dead
17:47.56NeoTronyep. have one of the tanks make the call
17:48.13NeoTronit's also the normal "omg omg gonna happen" thing that causes shit to fall apart
17:48.20NeoTronbut we had MANY very clean phase 1's
17:48.24NeoTronwhich was refreshing
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17:51.29ccKepbeta my ass, if I die again during that lootlag its finito for me
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17:51.58ccKepmobs killing you while you're waiting for that stupid client to continue sending data just sucks
17:52.22ccKepyay, dead
17:52.26CIA-4503endeavour * r80429 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc):
17:52.26CIA-45BossTalk:
17:52.26CIA-45- fixed 0-length string issue (thanks to drbeginner for reporting)
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17:52.49ccKepfinished for today... they could atleast release stable clients
17:54.47DashkalccKep: Oh yeah, the lag has been... interesting.  I had a good two hours last night then it was more time in lag than playing
17:55.48ccKepwell, its related to looting items
17:56.34ccKepand I'm actually on that quest where you have to capture 10 blackwyrm welps with a net in blade edge mountains
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17:56.53ccKepevery time I capture a dragon -> 2-3m lag (mobs punching on me)
17:57.58DashkalThe lag I was getting happened during loot quite a bit, but it was consistent to everybody in the zone
17:58.01ccKepI know its bet and such, but that doesn't mean to release with bugs that makes the game nearly unplayable... and that bug should've actually been found by a developer before packaging the patch since it affects every damn quest / mob / player
17:58.04profalbertis there anywhere some api-doc  about this threat-thingie in wotlk?
17:58.22ccKepI had that consistent lag with the last build too
17:58.29ccKepbut with the newest build its _definately_ related to loot
17:58.41Dashkalthis was last night for me
17:58.46ccKepeverytime you receive an item that creates a new stack in your inventory -> lag
17:58.47Dashkalso current build
17:58.54Dashkaland it wasn't every loot, I had a good two hours
17:59.10ccKepexcept for that damn welps, apparently they stack but it lags everytime I capture one.. dunno why
17:59.11Dashkalthen around 11pm PST it just went downhill
18:00.57ccKepjust unbelievably wrong to release something with such bugs
18:03.45DashkalGiven the two hours of normal playtime, my bet is it's something they did server time
18:03.53Dashkals/r time/r side/
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18:08.41AckisWorkif I want to hook into MerchantItemButton_OnClick, do I do a normal hook to that function, or a script hook to the MerchantItemButton OnClick script?
18:08.59cncfanaticseither will do
18:09.09Josh_Borkeone hooks a function, the other hooks a script
18:09.14Josh_Borke:D
18:09.21cncfanaticsa script is a function
18:09.22Arrowmasterand its a function
18:09.26cncfanaticsin essence you're doing the same thing
18:09.28Aiijinx
18:09.44cncfanaticsexcept that if you hook the OnClick script you'll actualy have better support for other addons also hooking it
18:09.57cncfanaticsso, hook the OnClick script imo :p
18:10.03AckisWorkok that's what I was wondering
18:10.09Josh_BorkeMerchantItemButton_Onclick = function() print("Got you!") end; MerchantItemButton:SetScript("OnClick",function() print("What now bitches") end)
18:10.26Josh_Borkeare 2 COMPLETELY different things :-P
18:10.26AckisWorkrawhook = prehook, securehook = posthook, what's a normal hook?
18:10.38Josh_BorkeHookScript is a post-hook
18:10.53Josh_Borkeafaik anyway
18:11.00cncfanaticsit is
18:11.04Arrowmasterexcept really the script is another function that does function(...) _G.MerchantItemButton_Onclick(...) end
18:11.13Josh_BorkeArrowmaster: it's true
18:11.15AckisWorkso normal = secure unless you specify true in the params?
18:11.24Josh_BorkeAckisWork: how are you hooking?
18:11.27cncfanaticsHookScript is always secure
18:11.35AckisWorkI'm doing random things and if it works I'm happy tbh
18:11.35cncfanaticsif you're hooking using some kind of library, i have no idea
18:11.46cncfanaticsuse HookScript if you can :)
18:11.47AckisWorkI'm hooking into merchant functions
18:11.48AiiAckisWork: Take a look at http://wowace.com/wiki/Ace3/Getting_Started in the Acehook section
18:11.54AckisWorkyah I'm reading that now
18:11.59AckisWorkwell read it before asking that is :P
18:12.26AiiBy default, hooks made using Ace3 will automatically call the originally hooked function as normal with its original arguments after your hook handler has run. If, however, you wish to either change the arguments to the original function with your hook handler, or perhaps not even run the original function at all, you'll need to set a raw hook instead.
18:12.33AiiThat's the difference between normal and raw
18:12.34Josh_Borkecries
18:12.37Aiisecure is totally independent of that
18:12.46Ellipsiscomforts JoshBorke
18:13.02cncfanaticsmeh, I never liked using libraries to hook
18:13.07[Endeavour]hooking a secureactionbutton's onclick won't work, will it?
18:13.16Josh_Borkei don't remember AceHook existing back when i helped with ace3...
18:13.21Aiinon-secure hooking wont, [Endeavour]
18:13.33[Endeavour]but secure hooking will?
18:13.58[Endeavour]thanks :)
18:14.01Aiishould, but secure is a post-hook and you still wont be able to execute secure actions like casts :P
18:14.22Josh_Borkeall securehook does is let you piggy back on a function without tainting
18:14.32Josh_Borkewell, i'm wrong, but that's ok
18:14.35[Endeavour]no, just need to CallAnotherfunction(); CallOriginalOnclick()
18:15.04Aiino
18:15.04[Endeavour]no change of arguments
18:15.21Aiisecure hooking is CallOriginalOnclick(); CallAnotherfunction()
18:15.30Aiihence why i said its a post-hook
18:15.31Josh_BorkeAckisWork: your best option is to use MerchantItemButton:HookScript("OnClick",function(...) MyAddon:DoStuff(...) end)
18:15.41[Endeavour]aaaaah got it, thanks :)
18:16.14Aiiyou can non-secure posthook as well
18:16.34Aiiusing rawhook (which can do either post or pre, however you want to code it)
18:16.37Aiibut that taints
18:18.29[Endeavour]well what i did was  local oldclick = Button:GetScript("Onclick");  Button:SetScript("OnClick", function() CallAnotherfunction(); oldclick(); end) result was taint problem
18:18.51Aiiyes
18:19.08Josh_Borkebad [Endeavour], bad
18:19.12Aiibecause you can't setscript w/o tainting
18:20.04Aiibecause the wow client doesn't know whether you've modified the normal behavior of the script or not
18:20.11[Endeavour]Josh_Borke: i know, i'm a noob :) but how 2 become pro without practise? How'd you do it?
18:20.18Aiiall it knows is that you're executing non-secure code in what's supposed to be a secure handler
18:20.29[Endeavour]Aii: Makes sense
18:20.46Josh_Borke[Endeavour]: i read, and did stupid stuff, but corrected as i learned better
18:21.16Aiianywho... AceHook isn't really all that complicated
18:21.26Josh_Borkenor is it really needed :-P
18:21.36Josh_Borkethen again, most of any framework isn't needed
18:21.39Aiimostly just a few syntactic sugar functions and an couple of arrays to keep track of hooks
18:21.41Josh_Borkeexcept for damn profiles
18:22.04Josh_Borkei say the most annoying part of any addon is 1) configuration management (ie profiles etc) and 2) configuration-
18:23.14AiiWhich is why I went with the AceDB/AceDBOptions/AceConfig combo :P
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18:25.30Aiivery sneaky, falknor
18:26.10Aiiborkes Josh_Borke
18:27.24ZyndromeYou have been selected to participate in the beta test of World of Warcraft®: Wrath of the Lich King™. Welcome!
18:27.26Zyndrome:)
18:27.35CIA-4503borlox * r80430 10Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua):
18:27.35CIA-45Fortress:
18:27.35CIA-45- fixed issue in plugin enable toggle (thanks durcyn for the report)
18:27.44Aiiyou too can witness the wonders of server downtime!
18:27.56Josh_Borkeholy shit!  someone is working on fortress!
18:27.58erikhheh
18:27.59Aiiwelcome to the Wrath of the Lag King beta!
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18:28.33ag`Josh_Borke, :O
18:28.40Josh_Borkeag`: :-p
18:29.07Ellipsisso I'm doing a quest from an npc who is always kneeling, and my first thought is "wow, even the questgivers are loot-lagged"
18:29.12Ellipsisthen, of course, teh server dies again
18:29.17AeyanHaha
18:29.17EllipsisI lol'ed :(
18:30.12Trell-grats Zyndrome
18:30.21Zyndromefuck beta atm :P
18:30.27ZyndromeMuru now
18:30.29Aiidrat
18:30.36Aiii was going to link the real-life lootlag vid
18:30.38Aiibut i cant find it
18:30.46ag`hey, if you travel to Kalimdor, is it possible to use the beta better?
18:30.56Zyndrome20:27.43 ( Aii ) you too can witness the wonders of server downtime!
18:30.59Zyndromeworse than TBC beta? :<
18:31.04ag`my guess is that it is northrend and azeroth that's bombed
18:31.11Aii11:29 <Ellipsis> then, of course, teh server dies again
18:31.15Zyndrome:C
18:31.17Aiianswer your question Zyndrome ?
18:31.23Zyndromeok ok
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18:31.56Zyndromeofc the beta-page is overloaded
18:32.49TecnoBratbeta servers were fine
18:33.00TecnoBratuntil they invited all you addon authors!
18:33.05TecnoBrat:P
18:35.22ag`you can bet your ass it isn't the devs
18:35.42ag`there's only two from tainted and secure online
18:35.42ccKepwoot, went to evergrove to turn in some quests
18:35.47ccKepno exactly every npc that I need despawned
18:35.55ccKepand every stupid npc is left there
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18:38.35CIA-4503ackis * r80431 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua:
18:38.35CIA-45WelfareEpics:
18:38.35CIA-45- Do some more hooking, $50 an hour please!
18:38.35CIA-45- Should be able to buy things from new tabs, that is if the new tabs show up after all the mucking around I've done today.
18:38.35CIA-45- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
18:39.12Aiialso AckisWork
18:39.24CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80432 10Prat/ (15 files in 5 dirs):
18:39.24CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
18:39.24CIA-45Fix bug in the options per-frame, where chatframe1 would be missing.
18:39.24CIA-45Converted Keybindings, Paragraph, ServerNames, TellTarget.
18:39.25Aiiwerent you saying your problem earlier was that you have too many small errors
18:39.28Josh_BorkeAckis: if you're going to use luac -p, you should check to make sure you aren't asking for any globals you don't know about ;-D
18:39.38Aiicouldnt that, you know, be fixed by not drycoding :P
18:39.56AckisWorkJosh_Borke: I do that also before releases
18:40.17chexsumanyone on the us beta pvp need a tank/healer for utgare ?
18:40.29AckisWorkaii: how about you come here to my office, somehow manage to bypass ACL and install wow so I can do dev work during downtime and test changes :P
18:40.43Aiiremote desktop imo
18:40.48chexsuml2vnc
18:40.53AckisWorkwould have to install remote desktop client
18:40.57Aiilogmein.com
18:41.22kenlyricrunning wow over remote desktop is hilariously bad
18:41.27jaxdahlremoting is horrible for running WoW
18:41.35chexsumhackthisbiznitch.ru
18:41.37Aiikenlyric: it works fine for testing anything that doesnt require running around
18:41.43chexsum:x
18:41.47kenlyricno it doesn't
18:41.58jaxdahlturn off the 3d graphics
18:42.02Aiikenlyric: works fine for me
18:42.03kenlyricit takes whole seconds to redraw the screen, which is constantly changing
18:42.09kenlyricyou can't turn off the 3d graphics in wow
18:42.09Aiium
18:42.15Aiiyou have a shitty remote desktop client then
18:42.20jaxdahli recall something like ct_portal or something
18:42.21kenlyricgetting past the login screen is a nightmare
18:42.26jaxdahlthat could resize the game view
18:42.53AiiI just turn down the color rendering to 8-bit color or the like and it redraws at about 3 fps, which is workable
18:42.53jaxdahltheoretically you could use that to resize it to zero or so?
18:43.11jaxdahlor just put a black frame under every other frame
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18:47.32CIA-4503ackis * r80433 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc:
18:47.32CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
18:47.32CIA-45- Add libs\LibAboutPanel\lib.xml to toc to help solve the SVN issues
18:47.32CIA-45- Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p)
18:47.59dafirewhat's wrong with the beta server? :9
18:49.16ccKepwould be easier to list the things that are not wrong right now @ dafire
18:49.21Trell-I see.
18:49.29Trell-after a long day working, I attempt to log on to the beta
18:49.34Trell-only to find...drum roll...its down.
18:49.47dafire^
18:49.49JerleMinarasounds like blizzard is fucking you again
18:49.54ccKepbe happy you were at work until now
18:49.55Trell-yup, just me
18:50.01Trell-no one else, they have it in for me
18:50.07ccKepotherweise you would've wasted a whole day ^.^
18:50.13Trell-\0/
18:50.29CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80434 10Prat/ (addon/modules.lua modules/Paragraph.lua):
18:50.29CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
18:50.29CIA-45Added module prototypes OnSubValueChanged, OnColorValueChanged
18:50.36Trell-anyone know yet whether the xp change from 70->71 is staying?
18:50.41XuerianTrunk buggrabber/bugsack work fine
18:50.45Xuerianpft
18:50.46ccKepcould easily be 71-72 now, yet I still hang around at 69
18:50.50Xuerianscrolls down about 10 hours
18:51.14Trell-71 on my shammy, still 59 on my dk
18:51.17dafireguess they will make leveling slower and slower the more the beta advances
18:51.22dafirewas the same with bc
18:51.31ccKep72 on shammy, 69 on dk
18:51.40ccKephate borean tundra
18:51.45ccKepreally _hate_ it so far
18:51.54ccKephowling fjord is uber haxx though
18:51.59dafireits so colorful .)
18:52.07dafiremost like fjord more
18:52.22ccKepmusic's really nice there too
18:52.36ccKepwhen wotlk hits live I won't level a single char through fucking tundra
18:52.58Trell-I love that killing a furry monster awards you with the debuff 'bloody hands' or something
18:53.07Trell-gotta stay away from DETA
18:53.09Trell-:P
18:53.15ccKepyeah
18:53.25ccKepit'd be nice if those animals were neutral and not hostile though
18:53.31Trell-indeed
18:53.38ccKepstupid mobs daze me and kick me off the mount, so they just have to die
18:53.50Trell-the only quest I've had issues with so far is the converting the ahrvesters one
18:53.59Trell-s/ahrvesters/harvesters/
18:54.09Trell-purely not enough of them spawn
18:54.12ccKep"Glyph of Spirit of Redemption - All heals cast while Spirit of Redemption is active have a 20% chance to increase the remaining duration of Spirit of Redemption by 20 sec." <<< how overpowered is this Oo
18:54.15ccKepnerf inc.
18:54.39ccKepspam flash heals and stay in invulnerable-spirit-form forever haha
18:55.15ccKepor just spam PoH forever :o
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18:59.12CIA-4503thrillseeker * r80435 10ItemValue/Class_StatSet.lua:
18:59.12CIA-45ItemValue:
18:59.12CIA-45- fix for ranged crit rating. You'll have to reassign the statweight for the ranged crit rating. Before it didn't get valued at all.
18:59.54KriLL3"You have been selected to participate in the beta test of World of Warcraft®: Wrath of the Lich King™. Welcome!"
18:59.56KriLL3:D
19:00.04KriLL3too bad the page you download the client from is down...
19:02.12JerleMinarahttp://wotlkwiki.info/WotLK-Beta-3.0.1-enUS-downloader.torrent
19:02.12Ellipsisseems like just about everyone's getting opt-in keys these days
19:02.39NeoTronno one in my guild so far
19:02.44NeoTronopt in I mean
19:03.05KriLL3JerleMinara: got a EU one?
19:03.12JerleMinarano
19:03.16JerleMinaradirty europeans
19:03.18JerleMinara:>
19:04.02KriLL3http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/beta-downloader-enGB.html found it
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19:05.16Zyndromeas usual
19:05.19Zyndromemuru phase 2
19:05.21ZyndromeBOOM wipe
19:06.56KriLL3anyone got a better mirror for the beta? this one is horribly slow
19:07.22Zyndromehttp://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Main_Page
19:07.27ZyndromeI used the one on the right
19:07.29Zyndromefrom 0day
19:07.53Zyndromeblizzard downloader is just crap :(
19:08.11Trell-aww thought I was in the game then
19:08.16Trell-but no, stuck at loading screen >_<
19:18.59ccKepI'm actually trying to vendor some gloves, but it I'm now waiting 12mins :o
19:20.09Trell-maybe the vendor is havinga think about whether its worth buying :P
19:22.43dafireeverything is like that
19:22.46dafirespending talent points
19:22.47dafiremail
19:23.49Primerarenajunkie kinda sucks
19:23.58PrimerAnyone know of a similar site...but better?
19:24.08Primerarenajunkies, that is
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19:28.30Primercrickets...
19:28.42Zyndromeexplosions
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19:30.18CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80436 10Prat/addon/ (modules.lua options.lua):
19:30.18CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
19:30.18CIA-45Put some of the added modules into their correct categories. Only show
19:30.18CIA-45options for chatframes which are in use.
19:30.21Trell-bullets!
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19:31.10PrimerSo...let's talk about arena!
19:31.25PrimerSL/SL lock here looking for some spec tips. Shadow Embrace...A Good Thing™? Or should I put points into Demonic Resilience instead?
19:31.33PrimerFor 2's with a druid
19:31.41Primerhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?tal=1500222212231110000002051030133250101501300000000000000000000000 is the spec I'm currently pondering
19:36.50Trell-Primer; you're a Warlock?  whats wrong with 0/0/0?
19:36.53Trell-and nekkid!
19:36.54Aiianeso, remember that 7 minute kaz kill I mentioned the other day... here's the WWS: http://wowwebstats.com/vfmnostv446uw?s=293092-304112
19:37.25Trell-7 minutes :O
19:37.39Aiiane(dont ask me wtf was going on with anetheron, I wasn't there)
19:37.57Trell-how the hell did you last 7 minutes
19:38.41PrimerAiiane: who are you in this?
19:38.50AiianePrimer: Avennia
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19:39.14Primerwell, warlock just life taps...
19:39.21Primeryou should never go below 3k mana
19:39.45Aiiane33k worth of healing from drain life :P
19:40.09Aiiane67k worth of lifetapping
19:40.23dafirelife taps suck
19:40.42dafirecosts lots of damage
19:41.16Primerbeats dying to mark
19:41.28Aiianevery much so
19:42.17Primerso let me get something straight first
19:42.20PrimerShadow Embrace
19:42.28Primerthat's a buff that I get once a dot goes up
19:42.37Ellipsisthat's a debuff that goes up with your dots
19:43.17Primerthe purpose of which, in the arena, is to 1) make drain life drain more (presuming you have the talent) and 2) a dispel buffer?
19:43.24Primerok, wait
19:43.44Ellipsis1 point in shadow embrace means you have an extra affliction effect up (for soul siphon)
19:43.53Ellipsis5 points mean anything you dot does 5% less physical
19:44.22Primerok, I was slightly confused
19:44.24Ellipsis(as long as one of the listed dots remains up, that is)
19:44.38AiianePrimer: shadow embrace is like misery from a shadowpriest
19:44.39Primerbut usually people only put 1 point into it
19:44.48Aiianeextra debuff that pops up on the target
19:44.55Aiianewhen certain effects are on them
19:44.55Ellipsisyeah, 1 point is enough for most pve situations (dunno about pvp)
19:45.02Aiianepvp 1 point is all you want
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19:45.12Aiiane5% less physical is meh in pvp
19:45.29Aiianefor pvp it's just for extra affliction effect and dot dispel buffer
19:45.32Ellipsissometimes a raiding afflock will take 5 points for utility purposes, but that's like malediction...you only need one per guild
19:45.34Primerso it's also annoying for the enemy in terms of dispel
19:45.42Primersince one dot = 2 debuffs
19:45.46Primerfirst dot, that is
19:46.02kenlyricdoes it stack with other damage reduction abilities?
19:46.07Aiianeyes
19:46.08kenlyriclike... reck?
19:46.12kenlyriccool
19:46.18kenlyricI only have ever had the 1 point :)
19:46.33PrimerSo how's this look: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?tal=1500222212231110000002050030133250100521300000000000000000000000
19:47.03PrimerHeh, I just realized I linked my current spec earlier, instead of the modified one
19:47.53PrimerKeeping affliction the same, but moving 1 point out of improved health funnel and 1 point out of mana feed into demonic resilience
19:48.01Ellipsispersonally I'd consider swapping imp agony for more fel conc
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19:48.16PrimerEllipsis: well, you're a PVEer, right?
19:48.20Ellipsisimp agony kind of sucks
19:48.20Primerfrom what I've read so far...
19:48.22Ellipsisespecially in pvp
19:48.30PrimerWhy?
19:48.34Ellipsissince most of its effect is at the end of its duration
19:48.47Ellipsishow often does agony tick the full duration in pvp?
19:48.54Primervery often
19:49.02Aiianedepending on who you're fighting
19:49.03Primermost dispel teams won't dispel
19:49.03Aiianequite often
19:49.04dafire6 times i tghink
19:49.23Primerdue to it being more mana efficient to just heal through dot damage
19:49.27Aiianeonly 2 classes can remove curses, and one of them's not a healer
19:49.47Aiianethere are plenty of 2v2 teams that dont have a druid or mage
19:50.08Aiianewhereas there are a lot less teams that dont have priest, pally, or lock (for fel nom)
19:50.16dafirerogues can remove them, too ?
19:50.24Aiianethat too, but that's self-only
19:50.35Primerand drain life does not factor highly into a pvp lock's arsenal
19:50.41Aiianeand removes both curses and magic, so not really relevant
19:50.43EllipsisI was under the impression that a) pvp fights don't last very long and b) people with full dots on them like to bubble/cloak/etc. out of it
19:50.55Aiianepvp fights can last quite long in arena
19:50.56Primerpvp fights last damn long
19:51.10dafirei saw the arena turnament at wwi .. they took some time .9
19:51.12PrimerI've had half hour fights when fighting other lock/druid teams
19:51.18Ellipsiswell, shows how much I know I guess
19:51.24Ellipsisis a carebear
19:51.32Primerit shows :)
19:51.40Ellipsisthanks :P
19:51.42Aiianeif a fight is short in arena
19:51.55Aiianeit typically either means 1) the matchup was really imbalanced, in terms of skill
19:52.21Aiiane2) neither team is skilled, so they just beat each other to pieces
19:52.26Aiianeor 3) someone got RNGd
19:52.52Aiianeexperienced teams are typically pretty good at staying alive for a while
19:52.57Shefki4) Someone got lucky with positioning.
19:54.27CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80437 10Prat/addon/ (addon.lua options.lua):
19:54.27CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
19:54.27CIA-45Show the correct frame name all the time, update config UI when its changed.
19:54.42Diaoyou also forgot
19:54.45ShefkiWhich I guess could be rolled into 3... but I tend to think RNG as more of mace stun procs, crits, etc...
19:54.47Diao5) Someone got cuntercomped
19:54.50Diaocounter*
19:55.00ShefkiGood point.
19:55.14Shefki6) One of the teams was Shadow Priest/Warlock
19:55.20Diaolol
19:55.55ShefkiEveryone seems to have trouble with that comp.
19:56.05Diaomm
19:57.19Diaopretty sure mage/rogue beats it
19:57.21Diaomost times
19:57.26ShefkiWell I guess double melee dps probably wouldn't.  But anyteam with caster dps or a healer they've got a lot of control with Silence/spell lock and fears.
19:57.58AiianeI haven't really had problems with shadowpriest/warlock
19:58.00Aiianeo.o
19:58.03Diaorogue/whatever in general shouldn't have too much trouble with that team
19:58.04Aiiane(as rogue/priest)
19:58.11Diaojust because of cloak
19:58.26Diaostay on lock and you only have to eat the psychic screams
19:58.34Aiianejust have to be careful not to let myself get bursted
19:58.39Aiianeand my rogue is fine
19:58.56Diaoand you can dispel most of their damage if they're not UA
19:59.07Aiianeand if they are UA, your rogue eats them
19:59.09Diaoand if they are, they're squishy :p
19:59.40Aiianeom nom nom tasty warlock
19:59.40dafirebut soon we have 10 more talent points :p
19:59.43ShefkiSo does everyone else though.
19:59.59Diaoi wonder what they will give warriors for totem-killing
20:00.12Diaoautoattacking to kill a totem = fail
20:00.16ShefkiNot fond of this mana thing for downranking...
20:00.29ShefkiI use downranked spells for keeping people in combat and totems all the time.
20:00.36Diaoi am. rank 1 polymorphs and rank 1 novas are annoying
20:00.56Aiianeim going to miss holy nova rank2 for snaketraps :|
20:00.56Diaoalthough, my 70 druid and shaman won't be happy :p
20:01.04Diaothat too
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20:01.15Aiianebecause even the mana cost for rank2 is bad
20:01.18Aiianerank 7 is insane
20:01.26ccKephaving healing way stacked to 3 with healing wave rank 1 was quite nice too :o
20:01.43Diaothat's more of a pve thing though
20:01.55Aiianealso going to miss rank 1 mana burn
20:01.56Diaojust like pallies keeping up light's grace with low rank HL
20:01.58ShefkiReally though I thought the downranking was fine.
20:02.13Diaoit was fine in general
20:02.13ShefkiAnyone could do it.
20:02.18Diaoexcept for mages keeping warriors sheeped and novaed
20:02.20Diaowith rank 1 spells
20:02.22Diaoand using basically zero mana
20:02.55Diaowhy would you use rank 1 mana burn though o_O
20:03.03Diaounless the target is already almost oom
20:03.05Diaoand you're just trying to prevent regen
20:03.39Aiiane^
20:03.46Aiianeburn them down to nothing with max rank
20:03.48ShefkiWell part of the problem is the mana cost you're playing for full rank CC spells is for longer duration that you don't get in PVP anyway.
20:03.52Aiianethen use rank1 to keep them there w/o going oom yourself
20:04.06ShefkiWhy pay for a 30 second duration that is only going to last 10 anyway.
20:04.11Diaotrue
20:04.19Aiianeimo CC spells should only have 1 rank to begin with
20:04.19NeoTronI think instead of downranking, people might have to not chain cast
20:04.21Diaobut it's still unfair to be chain sheeping people for less mana than it costs to regen
20:04.26Aiianewhy should level 10s not be able to do max-duration CC
20:04.43ShefkiFrankly I think Arena would be more interesting if CC had a longer duration but much more aggresive DR.
20:05.00Diaolike, full duration CC but you can only do it once? :p
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20:05.04AiianeShefki: mages would hate priests then :P
20:05.09Aiiane(ohai, sw:d)
20:05.36ShefkiDiao: Yeah and it wouldn't cooldown to be able to do it again for longer.
20:05.39Diaoevery cc class would hate trinkets :)
20:05.57ShefkiTrinkets were a fix to resolve broken design.
20:06.00ShefkiA bad fix at that.
20:06.17Aiianeyou dont want to make arenas all about who gets the first sheep off, though
20:06.37ShefkiYeah well we're stuck with trinkets now.
20:06.58Diaoalso
20:07.28ShefkiI just tend to think it's tilted more towards spam CC now than it should be.
20:07.45Diaoyeah
20:07.48Diaosomething that ticks me off about arenas
20:07.55Diaoyou are forced to eat a full blind somewhere in the match against a rogue
20:07.56Diaono matter what
20:07.59Diaoit's unavoidable
20:08.13Diaounless you lose within the first 90 sec
20:08.16Diaowhich very often happens
20:08.17ShefkiSorry but blind should never have been made physical
20:08.19Diaowith double dps
20:08.21Diaoagreed
20:08.27Diaothat made it retardedly op
20:08.28Aiianeblind should have stayed a poison yes
20:08.53Diaohonestly, who thought it was a good idea to give rogues an unbreakable cc on top of all their other tricks :\
20:09.15Shefki<PROTECTED>
20:09.20Diaoand paladins
20:09.21ShefkiThey did that to try and counter druids.
20:09.23Diaoand shaman
20:09.36ShefkiIndirectly but I think it was targeted at druids.
20:10.01ShefkiPre-Blind change a rogue was no real threat to a druid.  Especially with the 15% set bonus.
20:10.18Diaomm
20:10.23Diaomaybe at that point in time
20:10.28Diaocurrently a rogue doesn't even need blind
20:10.30Diaoand they can take out a druid
20:10.33Diaololstep
20:10.58ShefkiAnd sprint removing roots now.
20:11.06Diaowell that's only combat rogues
20:11.10Diaomost sub rogues don't have imp sprint
20:11.39Diaobut, 40% dispel resist on poisons
20:11.41ShefkiYeah either way they'll have imp sprint or lolstep as you put it.
20:11.44Diaoand increased application
20:11.51Diaobasically screws druids over
20:11.53Diaoeven with abolish
20:12.07Diaoi mean
20:12.11Diaoi have a rogue alt that's not yet 70
20:12.12ShefkiIt's not too bad as long as you get abolish up before you get jumped.
20:12.14Diaobut it's pretty pathetic
20:12.27ShefkiAs sooon as you realize there's a rogue you just cast Abolish and start hotting yourself.
20:12.29Diaoi'm leveling with a friend who's playing restokin spec to level
20:12.36Diaoat 54
20:12.49Diaowe took out a 62 warr, 61 hunter, 58 rogue, and 53 warlock all at once
20:13.05Diaoand it's basically been like that all the way since level 30
20:13.06Shefkirestokin/rogues can be annoying in 2's.
20:13.22Diaowe're leveling the chars to help out a friend on another server who plays disc priest
20:13.30Diaoshe lost all her arena teams so we're making alts to play with her
20:13.34Diaorogue/restokin/disc priest is lol
20:13.42Diaolike double healer and double dps all in one
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20:14.07ShefkiI've been doing druid/hunter/disc priest.
20:14.29Diaonihilum comp :p
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20:17.16sb_mhhh, nice, need to reinstall windows :o
20:17.26sb_XP64 or 32? :p
20:17.43Ellipsisis it just me or is it impossible to use the "suggestion" part of the feedback UI on beta right now?
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20:18.03dafiresb_, xp64 is crap
20:18.07dafireit's not even xp
20:18.28sb_mhh, well, i dont want vista anymore, nvidia drivers got serious issues
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20:18.40sb_and with 4gb ram 64bit would be the logical choice
20:18.45sb_but xp64 isnt that good
20:18.53sb_err
20:18.59dafirexp64 is build on a win2003 server kernel
20:19.01sb_whats the problem with xp64? :)
20:19.06sb_oh
20:19.14dafireyou won't find better drivers for that then for vista .i9
20:19.52sb_so just get XP32 and have fun with 3.2gb ram? :p
20:20.17dafirehmm.. more 2.8
20:20.39dafirethere is shadow copy and stuff from bios and that's all draining ram :9
20:21.01sb_*sigh*
20:21.05sb_so what to do? :P
20:21.13dafirevista is fine :)
20:21.22KriLL3!rating 1528
20:21.22Xinhuan1528 rating gives 375(5s), 330(3s) and 285(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
20:21.31sb_mh, 20fps in wow isnt that fine
20:21.32KriLL3!rating 1548
20:21.32Xinhuan1548 rating gives 399(5s), 351(3s) and 303(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
20:21.37sb_+ graphic driver crashes
20:21.39sb_evert 1-2h
20:21.54Vonhintenyou must have old drivers, or a broken card
20:22.03VonhintenI get 120 fps, and no crashes
20:23.19sb_new card, 177.xx drivers
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20:24.17Matrix110|Are you playing in Windowed mode?
20:24.26sb_yep
20:24.36Matrix110|Windowed Mode + Aero = less fps
20:24.45Matrix110|around 15 here in raids
20:25.02sb_i could disable areo
20:25.03dafirei have aero turned off .9
20:25.25NeoTronwindowed mode period is lower fps
20:25.27sb_its already off :p
20:25.30NeoTronin Windows XP too
20:25.37Matrix110|NeoTron on XP you dont really notice it normally
20:25.49NeoTronit's like 5-10 FPS difference from whatI noiced
20:25.56Matrix110|For me it was 1-2
20:25.57Matrix110|:P
20:26.13sb_but 20fps in raid isnt that cool
20:26.17sb_and i dont understand why
20:26.24NeoTronsb_: how does 10 fps sound?
20:26.30NeoTronI long for the days I had 20 fps in raids :(
20:26.36sb_err
20:27.01Matrix110|20fps in raids is totally fine :P
20:27.06dafiredirectx fullscreen is always faster then window mode .9
20:27.20sb_intel Q9550, nvidia GTX 260
20:27.24sb_that should be more thatn 20fps :p
20:27.31Matrix110|nope
20:27.34Diaodepends on your ui and res :O
20:27.45sb_1600x1200, windowed, lots of addons :p
20:27.46Matrix110|not in Windowed with 1680x1050 and lots of Addons :P
20:27.52NeoTronsb_: bit faster than me
20:28.00sb_*sigh* okay
20:28.05NeoTronAlthon X2 4400, GT8800 256M
20:28.11Matrix110|I have 20-30fps in raids Q6600 8800GTS
20:28.16Matrix110|Without Addons around 50
20:28.18NeoTronI'm CPU limited
20:28.26sb_but in XP it was like 50-60 fps
20:28.28NeoTronrather seriously so
20:28.29Matrix110|in Fullscreen always around 60-90
20:28.39sb_so i think its some vista issue
20:28.44sb_+ crashing drivers
20:28.52Matrix110|NeoTron you are always CPU limited in WoW :P
20:28.54sb_which _IS_ vista + nvidia issue
20:28.55NeoTronI gained like 3-5 fps going from a 7800 GLX
20:29.06sb_there are several reports about that
20:29.49Matrix110|Even my old Radeon 9800Pro I gained 1-2FPS from switching down to 800x600 and lowest settings possible compared to 1152x864 and highest everywhere
20:29.54Matrix110|*on
20:30.18Matrix110|You are only graphiccard capped if you bought like a GF4 MX etc. :P
20:30.29sb_okay, gained 15fps by setting multisample to 2x :p
20:30.31dafireomg.. logged into beta and something is working .9
20:30.31ag`which addon profiler works for wotlk?
20:30.55Primerthe biggest FPS killer is texture filtering
20:30.55Matrix110|sb yes Multisampling eats alot fps :P
20:31.08sb_but that doesnt affect my driver crash problem :/
20:31.15Primerand anti aliasing
20:31.23Matrix110|what driver are you using?
20:31.54sb_177.41
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20:32.05Matrix110|let me check mine sec
20:32.15Matrix110|177.83
20:32.19Matrix110|working without a problem
20:32.25sb_83???
20:32.26Matrix110|and before that 175.16
20:32.34Matrix110|Got released 2days ago
20:32.37Matrix110|afaik
20:32.44sb_not on nvidia page :p
20:32.48sb_DL link plx :p
20:32.51Matrix110|http://www.nvidia.de/object/force_within_de.html
20:32.55Matrix110|ofc on the nvidia page
20:32.56Matrix110|!!!
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20:33.07sb_oh okay
20:33.12sb_but its not in their driver directory
20:33.30Matrix110|correct
20:33.35Matrix110|its only in the NVidia POWER PACK
20:33.36Matrix110|:D
20:33.56Matrix110|enables PhysX support aswell not that anyone needs it though
20:36.17XuerianMatrix110|: wtb en page
20:36.39Matrix110|hmm dunno if it exists but Ill try to find it :P
20:36.54Diaojust got o nvidia.com
20:36.58Diaoand it's on the front page
20:36.59Diao"force within"
20:37.13XuerianDiao: Yeah, didn't see it because the non-flash link was wrong on their page. Enabled noscript >.>
20:37.18Diaolol
20:37.31Diaoi have noscript disabled for a few specific sites
20:37.49dafiredamn .. i was about 10% before 71 and now I am back at 50%
20:37.50Xuerianstabs nvidia
20:37.55XuerianStupid 8-series cards
20:38.11Matrix110|why?
20:38.12Xuerianpats his 7800gs comfortingly.
20:38.17Matrix110|its old
20:38.20Matrix110|:P
20:38.28KriLL3!rating 1536
20:38.28Xinhuan1536 rating gives 384(5s), 338(3s) and 292(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
20:39.05XuerianI'm running a P4 (3.06), with 1gb of ddr ~300 (ecc), and that card is sitting in a agp slot. I had a glimmer of hope... Obviously it wasn't enough :P
20:40.13Diaothat's quite old :(
20:40.37XuerianHeh, yeah. Ah well
20:42.37Matrix110|why ecc ram?
20:42.52Matrix110|its expensive and has no advantage for a normal user
20:43.16XuerianI bought it for a server machine I never recieved.
20:43.32Matrix110|ah
20:43.59Trell-zomg im in eu beta
20:44.05XuerianWell, technically, bought 2gb of it, 200$... Then one dimm burned out when I didn't have a large enough heatsink when I swapped in the 3.06 from the 2.6 p4
20:44.10Trell-logged in i mean
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20:47.11Trell-you know what, most of the people on the beta have been cool, three times now I've gone for a mine, only to see someone else there already, and they've stepped back to let me get a skill point from it
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20:49.42ccKep(they just had loot lag)
20:53.09Ellipsisaww don't ruin it for him ccKep
20:53.16Ellipsisit's kind of cute that he's so innocent he believes people are actually nice...
20:53.30ccKepjust dinged 70, had to make fun of something :D
20:53.32thullicks Ellipsis
20:53.41Ellipsislickraeps thul
20:53.48thulenjoys
20:53.53sb_meh download error
20:53.58sb_Matrix110|: could you DCC that file to me?
20:54.13Matrix110|erm
20:54.14Matrix110|no
20:54.16Matrix110|120mb
20:54.36Matrix110|and i got the 64bit version
20:55.05Matrix110|120mb upload takes about 3hrs orso :P
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20:55.41CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
20:55.41CIA-45Fix bugs seen on when disabling some modules. Added guidance about need to
20:55.42CIA-45reload the UI after changing a module to or from "Do Not Load"
20:55.51Matrix110|lol Beta seems bugged
20:55.56Matrix110|my Frostbolt is about 5times bigger
20:56.20Matrix110|other spells are fine
20:56.30sb_mhpf
20:56.36sb_"click here to individually download your PP files"
20:56.39CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80441 10Prat/addon/options.lua:
20:56.39CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
20:56.39CIA-45Um, tortoise bug, didn't commit this file
20:56.41sb_click, soem window opens
20:56.45sb_but its empty :p
20:57.09Pneumatustortoise bug, or forgot to rightclick->add file? :>
20:57.27Matrix110|that DL Manager needs Java
20:57.47sb_yes... i have java :p
20:57.50sb_*kill browser*
21:00.12Trell-wee I can make some nice new gems
21:00.20Trell-prospected some huge citrines
21:00.35Trell-how utterly exciting.
21:01.19thulI must have the most whiny gf ever.. OR I'm the most evil bf ever. One of those two :-P
21:01.31EllipsisI'd put money on the latter
21:01.51thulI guess you would.
21:01.55thulI think I fit best as a single guy
21:02.14Ellipsisso why are you dating her? :P
21:02.20Daemonaas people usually overestimate their social capabilities, i bet Ellipsis would win that money
21:02.45Daemonasb_ hows the beta?
21:03.09sb_Daemona: which one?
21:03.32Daemonalike, is the euro realm up or still world server down every 5 minutes?
21:04.01Trell-NOOOOOOOO
21:04.03sb_i have no idea :)
21:04.14Trell-just doing a quest in farshire mine and world server goes down
21:04.19Daemona~cookie Trell-
21:04.20Trell-next time I log in, im gonna get raped
21:04.37sb_Daemona: SWP raid till 23:00
21:04.45Daemonaon a thursday? o.O
21:04.49sb_yes?
21:04.51sb_:)
21:04.56sb_why not?
21:05.10Daemonaguess i am too used to ... Wednesday 10pm sunwell clear ;)
21:05.16Trell-we raid on thursdays
21:05.43NeoTronDaemona: man I wish. I really do
21:05.47sb_we dont raid on wednesday , patch day :p
21:05.48Trell-I gave my usual spot up for a triallist
21:05.50Daemonaanyone know whats the most efficient way to farm steamwheedle reputation?
21:05.54sb_and we need 4h for boss 1-4, so... ;)
21:06.20Daemonafears its DM north free the chained goblin
21:06.48thulEllipsis: beacause I have been together with her for a year? :-P
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21:08.33sb_Daemona: do yo still do bt raids?
21:08.44Daemonasometimes over the weekend
21:08.49Daemonawe still have that one-armed rogue ;)
21:08.53Daemonathat begs us all the time
21:09.30Adirellejust discovered the last hunter changes.
21:10.38Ellipsisthul: why did you *start* dating her if you think you're better off single? :P
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21:20.35CIA-4503borlox * r80443 10Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua):
21:20.35CIA-45Fortress:
21:20.36CIA-45- the plugins enabled option is no longer inherited from the master settings and hopefully fixed the whole stuff
21:20.36CIA-45- /fortress now opens the InterfaceOptionsFrame instead of the AceGUI frame
21:20.36CIA-45- fixed a bug where the suffix wasn't displayed
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21:27.08thulEllipsis: well, beacause I'm stupid :-P
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21:33.04Ellipsisthul: I'm sure you've noticed how we're all rushing to disagree with you ;P
21:33.39Primerhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents.html?tal=1500222212231110000002050030133250100521300000000000000000000000  <-- please comment on this spec I plan to use for 2's with a resto druid
21:34.12PrimerAlso, get both spell damage guardian rings?
21:34.15AckisWorkwow way to ruin the last 15 minutes of nick changes
21:34.19Primererr
21:34.26PrimerI mean, spell + haste guardian rings?
21:34.26Aiiseriously, gtfo
21:34.28Aii:P
21:34.46PProvost|workLooks alot like my new arena spec
21:36.49PrimerI'm grinding honor now to get the damn guardian rings
21:46.24KriLL3servers screwy atm or why can't I upgrade my BC account to LK beta?
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21:47.26KriLL3heh just tried to go to the main page "XML Parsing Error: no element found" guess that's an affirmitive
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21:48.16ccKepI've just made an _awesome_ journey with my DK
21:48.23ccKepdinged 70 in blade edge mountain
21:48.29ccKepported to ebon hold to learn skills
21:48.35Gnarfozprofalbert: somehow, the wotlk branch of parrot still has the "Pet Heals" problem
21:48.40ccKepsat on gryphon to menethil in order to go to northrend
21:49.01ccKepwaited _20 minutes_ for a boat (first boat was buggy, spawned and swam away.. all 10 people in menethil missted it)
21:49.09ccKepboat -> loading screen -> instance not found
21:49.40ccKepdied at the eastern side of eastern plaguelands to fatique, rezzed and swam to eastern plaguelands, ran through an empty tyrs hand, got ported to hinterlands graveyard
21:49.56ccKepmade me on the way to aerie peak gryphon, as I arrived there -> loading screen outlands -> stuck until now...
21:50.13ccKepI think I just got owned pretty hard
21:50.24Neyahaha
21:50.38Ellipsisthat's pretty epic
21:50.43Neyainteresting way to get there though.
21:50.56ccKepwell, I'm still in the loading screen
21:51.03ccKepsince like 10mins
21:51.09ccKepgues my DK is screwed
21:51.19ccKepcharacter list doesnt show a location
21:51.31Ellipsisthat doesn't always mean something bad
21:51.32ccKep*guess
21:52.07Neyacharlist almost never shows a location when you moved around like that.
21:52.10ccKepgot _two_ random world epic patterns on beta server on one day
21:52.15ccKepwouldn't have happened on live...
21:52.22Ellipsisclearly you've got teh hax
21:52.29Ellipsisno WONDER your char is so screwy
21:52.31ccKepcobrascale gloves and resolution cape -.-
21:53.14ccKephope they fix the beta stability problems soon
21:53.21ccKepwant to level my DK decently
21:53.40Ellipsisyou'd think it would be a priority for them to debug/fix that
21:54.56KriLL3wtf I can't upgrade my BC account to LK beta
21:55.05KriLL3says my account or password are wrong
21:55.16Matrix110|are you on the wrong page?
21:55.16nevcairielmaybe they are?
21:55.18ccKepare you using the correct site?
21:55.18Matrix110|US/EU?
21:55.21ccKep(EU/US)
21:55.25KriLL3Matrix110|: it's not a page
21:55.31Matrix110|its a page
21:55.32Matrix110|Oo
21:55.43nevcairielsomeone haxed your key!!11
21:55.45KriLL3the installer
21:55.55nevcairieldo it on the page
21:55.55ccKepmy installer didn't ask for a key Oo
21:55.58Matrix110|https://beta.wow-europe.com/expansion/
21:56.03Matrix110|for EU
21:56.04ccKep(although I installed wayyy before I got a key :D)
21:56.12KriLL3Matrix110|: thx
21:56.14nevcairielhttps://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/ <-- US
21:56.16KriLL3it was down before
21:56.19Matrix110|https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/
21:56.45Matrix110|ccKep the installer gives you an option to upgrade your account which normally just opens your Browser afaik
21:57.14KriLL3it still claims my login is invalid
21:57.23Matrix110|Caps ?
21:57.26KriLL3no you can do it from the installer also
21:57.28KriLL3no
21:57.36Matrix110|Then your account info is wrong :P
21:57.38KriLL3I login with a macro, same button I press to login in wow
21:57.49KriLL3and I can login in wow just fine
21:58.15Matrix110|how about handtyping?
21:58.40Matrix110|There is code which prevents software adding stuff to fields
21:58.46Matrix110|SMF Admin Panel login has it
21:58.49Matrix110|its totally annoying
21:59.04Matrix110|Firefox3 cant insert my Password there but handtyping works
21:59.16KriLL3already tried
21:59.19Matrix110|it gets inserted by FF3 but doesnt work when i submit
21:59.30KriLL3and I doubt it can block you from adding stuff with software since the software emulates keyboard presses
21:59.43Matrix110|g15?
21:59.47Matrix110|or g11
21:59.55KriLL3neither
22:00.12Matrix110|Some other weird keyboard then
22:00.21KriLL3it's not a keyboard
22:00.29Matrix110|software then
22:00.38Matrix110|And there are ways to prevent that aswell :P
22:00.57KriLL3doubt it
22:01.17KriLL3it's an input device saying you're hitting keyboard keys
22:01.17Megalonwithout colleteral damage? ;)
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22:08.09Ellipsis:<
22:08.25KriLL3I've even changed the damn password and it still doesn't work
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22:08.28Ellipsisworld server needs less down
22:08.37jy__mmh
22:08.43jy__talking about coldarra ?
22:08.49Ellipsisnah, us northrend
22:09.01jy__you are lucky to have world server down
22:09.15jy__here can't even pass loading character list
22:09.32Ellipsisit was kind of inconvenient timing, I was just about to summon someone who was stuck...
22:09.43jy__4h ago stuck at loading screen on every continent
22:10.06jy__this morning wold server crashed every 5 min
22:10.37jy__i'm going to sleep, beta may work when i'll get my internet connection back
22:11.30AerrHm. i need some inspiration for my warrior UI. Trying to go with the theme of "rage"
22:11.50Zyndromeah, theme of /v/
22:12.00Aerrhttp://xs330.xs.to/xs330/08334/wowscrnshot_081408_163753979.jpg
22:12.03Aerris atm
22:12.05KriLL3anyone got any idea why the upgrade page refuses to work?
22:12.23KriLL3claims my login isn't correct
22:12.26KriLL3when it is
22:13.13ccKepdid you actually try to handtype the password? if yes then my guess would be they temporarely closed it due to beta realms running like shit
22:13.23KriLL3I did type it manually
22:13.33ccKep(dunno for US, but EU one just runs _horribly_)
22:13.44KriLL3I typed it manually into the login screen in wow and the upgrade, login worked, upgrade says it's wrong
22:13.56ccKepdid you change it recently?
22:14.04KriLL3nope
22:14.15ccKep*shrug* then
22:14.24Aiiyou're at beta.worldofwarcraft.com right?
22:14.25KriLL3I just did to a much simpler pass and tried that, didn't work either
22:14.27KriLL3no
22:14.29KriLL3the EU one
22:14.39KriLL3https://beta.wow-europe.com/expansion/upgradeAccount.html
22:14.46Aiiwell what i mean is, you're at the beta thing, not blizzard account
22:14.57Aiik
22:14.59Aiidunno then
22:15.36KriLL3I'm as sure as I can be that the login is correct and it says it isn't
22:15.40ccKepworks fine for me I think
22:15.44KriLL3a server down or soemething?
22:16.08ccKepI enter my accountname, my password and a lot of A's in the key field and it just says "Key not expansion key." - nothing about accoutn information not correct (dunno what he checks first though)
22:16.53jy__KriLL3: you may want to wait until the serveur is in better shape
22:16.56KriLL3I just tried all A and it says invalid
22:17.10KriLL3the login that is
22:19.15ccKeplogin invalid or key invalid?
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22:19.51KriLL3login
22:19.57ccKepif I enter wrong login name / pass + A's as key -> login incorrect
22:20.03ccKepif i use correct login + A's as key -> invalid key
22:20.10jy__the auth/world server is so laggy that it may have trouble with updating his account list/pw
22:20.18jy__try tomorrow :)
22:20.19ccKepare you sure there's no accidential space behind your username?
22:20.22KriLL3doesn't matter what key I input, it only says invalid login
22:20.32KriLL3ccKep: 100% sure
22:20.55KriLL3I'm 100% certain the account and pass are both correct
22:21.06KriLL3I can login to wow and the account management page just fine with em
22:21.07jy__and ask on the technical forum or by mail to blizzard
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22:24.28KriLL3done both, no reply to either
22:24.32fewynOMG
22:24.34fewyn* Glyph of Mind Flay - Increases the range of your Mind Flay spell by 10 yards, but it no longer reduces the target's movement speed.
22:24.38fewynfinalllllly!
22:24.57KriLL3isn't the movement speed thing the whole point of mind flay?
22:25.01fewynno
22:25.03fewynwell
22:25.04fewynin pvp
22:25.07fewynand leveling yes
22:25.12fewynpve raiding not so much
22:25.19KriLL3I don't pve raid
22:25.21EllipsisKriLL3: did you recently change your password? if so, it might be expecting an older one....
22:25.27KriLL3Ellipsis: no
22:25.41Ellipsisis your password more than 16 characters long?
22:25.42Aiithat glyph = so shadowpriests won't get screwed over by things like boss auras with 30yd radius
22:25.42KriLL3and I tried one I had like 6 months ago and it didn't work either
22:25.45KriLL3no
22:25.50Ellipsisthen I'm out of ideas :(
22:25.51Aii(azgalor rain of fire, etc)
22:25.58fewynyep Aii
22:26.49sbMatrix110|: seems to be more stable now
22:26.55sbwith 177.83
22:27.07Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
22:27.14Fisker-Ellipsis' Ellipsis
22:27.28Aii... Ellipsis
22:28.30Ellipsisfaints
22:31.32Stanzillafarts
22:31.38Fisker-faps
22:31.47CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80444 10Prat/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
22:31.48CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
22:31.48CIA-45Added folderlocation and memory services. Show memory use and module
22:31.48CIA-45statistics after startup. Link module "on" option to module control.
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22:37.25Zyndrome"retrieving character list"
22:37.33ZyndromeIm a pro beta tester :p
22:38.03Ellipsishow many bugs have you found with the server selection window and character list?
22:38.05Trell-World Server Down.
22:38.10Ellipsisthat's what proves you're a *real* beta tester
22:39.08Trell-Ellipsis; 265.
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22:43.56Industrial~seen Kaelten
22:43.59purlkaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 32m 3s ago, saying: 'later guys'.
22:44.26Industrial:<
22:46.16CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80446 10Prat/addon/modules.lua:
22:46.16CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
22:46.16CIA-45Fix a bug which was causing all the modules to load.
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22:52.16CIA-45RaidBuffStatus:
22:52.16CIA-45- Fixed issue with it not reading the tank list when reconnecting when already in a raid.
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22:58.53Ellipsisit's amazing how clean you can get your desk in between server crashes...
23:00.51KriLL3bah stop hogging the server
23:00.55Zyndromeinvent a time-accelerator, ~2 hours until moar olympics :E
23:01.14Zyndrometo kill time
23:01.15KriLL3who cares?
23:01.42Megalonnoone cares for olympic games, except when there is womens beach volleyball
23:02.42Antiarchttp://i38.tinypic.com/5tyzco.png <-- el oh el
23:03.17KriLL3that is win
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23:03.24Aiilol Antiarc
23:03.25fewyni should clean my desk now that you mention it Ellipsis
23:03.40fewynLOL
23:04.02AdirelleI've got an automated process to clean my desk
23:04.16Adirelletook a long time to tune it right though
23:04.36KriLL3let me guess, the desk rotates all the way around vertically?
23:04.39Adirelleshe... er... it has a still some flaws
23:05.57KriLL3I just saw on the forum I'm not the only guy that can't upgrade my account
23:07.50ZhinjioAntiarc: question about chatter on wotlk... when chatter is loaded, I lose the right click menu on tabs.
23:07.57Antiarcyeah, I need to fix it
23:08.00Zhinjiook
23:08.05Stanzillayes you do :P
23:08.13StanzillaI told you a week ago :P
23:08.14fewynyea which is why i'm using prat-3.0 atm
23:08.19fewynotherwise i'd be using chatter
23:08.28AntiarcI've logged into WoW all of twice in the past two weeks :P
23:08.30Stanzillastop being busy!
23:08.32AntiarcBut I'll fix it ASAP.
23:08.34fewynawe
23:08.37fewyn:(
23:08.37AntiarcI can't help it :(
23:08.38Stanzilla<3
23:08.42AntiarcWork is kicking my butts.
23:08.45AntiarcBut in a good way.
23:08.45fewyni'd give you some of my free time if i could Antiarc!
23:08.55AntiarcI would totally take free time donations if I could
23:09.23fewynI'm sitting in Stormwind attempting to make some pots
23:09.27fewynbut the server is hating me
23:09.34Ellipsisdonates 12 seconds to Antiarc
23:09.56Ellipsisdon't spend it all in once place
23:09.57sbretrieving character list :/
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23:10.39fewyni thought i had some pets in my bank :(
23:10.43fewynbut seems i don't
23:11.25CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80449 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ag_Options.lua: ag_UnitFrames: move setup mode to options addon
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23:12.14thulEllipsis: you are too kind :-P
23:12.42EllipsisI know, right?
23:13.49Aiisurreptitiously steals a nanosecond from each individual on the earth
23:13.59Aiiwon't even be missed!
23:14.40DashkalAii: define "individual"
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23:15.23sacarascAii: and gain about 6 seconds? not really worth it, is it?
23:15.40Aiihey, time is a precious commodity
23:18.11Zyndromesb , I get passed that but it stops when I zone in
23:18.19thullickraaaaeepeeees Ellipsis
23:18.37thulhttp://fc04.deviantart.com/fs32/i/2008/227/8/e/Rusty_Bolt_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- you can watch my portrait of the day instead Ellipsis  :-P
23:18.39AntiarcHoly crap
23:18.43AntiarcThis is dedication to the job
23:18.44Antiarchttp://www.cnn.com/video/?JSONLINK=/video/world/2008/08/14/vo.gerogia.journalist.shot.gerogiastatetv
23:19.17Aii:O thul
23:20.03KriLL3just a flesh wound
23:20.11thulAii: w00t?
23:23.14DashkalAntiarc: That video is somewhat suspect, sadly.  Watch closely, doesn't seem entirely right
23:25.24KriLL3yeah sounds like someone set of some firecrackers and when the camera was turned on again she'd pricked herself or something
23:26.25DashkalIt's the lack of so much as a yelp of pain that bothered me.  I don't care how good your nerves are, getting shot should HURT
23:26.37KriLL3agreed
23:27.01KriLL3and she didn't look at all bothered by it either
23:27.13AntiarcIt looks like it just grazed her
23:27.18KriLL3if you got shot you'd be crying from the pain and quite distraught
23:27.37DashkalHurts like hell to get cut with a knife, dunno why a graze wouldn't cause at least an exclamation of pain
23:27.46DashkalHaving not been shot myself I can't comment with any surety :p
23:27.59KriLL3I'm not american either
23:29.23ckknightwoo, America!
23:29.49KriLL3I think the term is "America, Fuck Yeah!"
23:30.18sbmhh
23:30.32sbanother guilde just got his beta key
23:30.41sbnew opt-in wave going out atm?
23:30.44Zyndromeapparently
23:30.45KriLL3Europe?
23:30.48KriLL3yeah I got one today
23:30.50Zyndromegot mine earlier
23:30.52sbyup EU
23:30.57CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80450 10Prat/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
23:30.57CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
23:30.58CIA-45Added some more profiling code.
23:30.58KriLL3can he upgrade?
23:31.00KriLL3I can't
23:31.04Zyndromebut no one else in my guild got one it seems
23:31.09KriLL3says my login is invalid, some more on the forum got the same problem
23:31.16Zyndromeso once I get onto coldarra, guildmates gonna "who's this\that?"
23:31.20Zyndromehow*
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23:33.19CIA-45XLootMaster:
23:33.19CIA-45- ruRU locale implemented.
23:34.19KriLL3It's almost poetic, me on the edge of my chair each time an opt-in invite rollout comes along, and I never got one, then I finally get mine, and the site goes down, when it's back up login on the upgrade page doesn't work
23:34.51ckknighthugs KriLL3
23:35.06KriLL3O_o
23:35.52Neyastill waiting for an authorkey here :P
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23:36.30Neyagrinding timbermaw rep while waiting, and I somehow belive I
23:37.39Neya*belive I'll get exalted before I have see a key, but life could be worse.
23:37.42KriLL3timbermaw? why on earth?
23:37.51NeyaI'm bored, that's why.
23:38.11KriLL3the "I want 350 weapon skill in all weapons" kind of bored?
23:38.19Neyayep
23:38.27Stanzillathe "i want full bars" kind of bored :P
23:38.34Stanzilla+ it's an archievement!
23:38.43KriLL3I stood over an hour with a staff hitting on those invinsible guys in blastedlands, still 349
23:39.04KriLL3Stanzilla: isn't the achievement for max skill at 80?
23:39.50Stanzillayes
23:39.53StanzillaI was talking timbermaw
23:40.01KriLL3ah
23:40.19KriLL3I'm honored =P
23:40.30KriLL32/12000
23:40.31Stanzilla:P
23:40.43KriLL3I'm friendly with cenarion circle
23:40.48KriLL3eat that
23:40.50Neyarevered, bo still a fair bit of a way to go.
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23:41.20KriLL3honored is quite nice though since I killed my way through those tunnels, was before there were any rewards for rep with em
23:41.53sylvanaarim testing memory use, and it looks like having embedded libraries costs you memory even if they arent running from your addon - can anyone confirm/refute?
23:42.33StanzillaKriLL3: exalted with cc :p
23:42.36Diaoi thought that only happened if your addon was the first alphabetically sylvanaar
23:42.47KriLL3Stanzilla: you were in AQ a lot?
23:42.49Stanzillano
23:42.58Stanzilla3 times :P
23:43.04StanzillaI farmed everything
23:43.08Stanzillafrom friendly to exalted
23:43.35KriLL3you get 2 rep for the guys in robes around there, is there a more efficient way?
23:43.41PrimerYou know what would be great? If pitbull could show a special border for people with UA on them.
23:43.47Primeror...can it?
23:43.53sylvanaarno, in my test I have libraries embedded, and I have standalones with optdeps, and I just comment/uncomment the libraries in my toc to observe the difference
23:43.54KriLL3UA?
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23:43.58PrimerUnstable Affliction
23:44.05StanzillaKriLL3: you farm twilight sets + texts
23:44.19KriLL3what are the sets good for?
23:44.35sylvanaari guess its sort of the same
23:44.36Stanzillasummoning the questmobs
23:44.46KriLL3isn't that 5 man or more stuff?
23:45.01Stanzillathe greater ones are
23:45.02CIA-4503ackis * r80452 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua:
23:45.02CIA-45WelfareEpics:
23:45.02CIA-45- Last few tweaks before bed
23:45.08Stanzillathe lesser and middle ones you can solo
23:46.10Ackis~fail ackis
23:46.10purlackis: FAIL!
23:46.30DashkalBed? O.o  it's 6 over there...
23:46.55KriLL3what does that addon do?
23:47.16sacarascmaybe he just forgot to hit enter for 20 or so hours
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23:48.18sylvanaari see, the libraries i had embedded were newer
23:48.48AckisI hit alt-F4 in my command prompt which doesn't close it, instead it acts as an input for the pause command
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23:50.41Stanzillaas long as you dont commit your plain text commit script, everything is ok
23:50.55Ackis:P
23:51.07AckisI'm not going to encrypt a svn password for open source code :P
23:51.10Ellipsiscoughs
23:52.32Stanzillaencrypts Ellipsis
23:53.05Ellipsisooh, kinky
23:54.27Ackislua> foo = {"a","b","c","d"};for _,i in ipairs(foo) do print(i) end
23:54.27lua_botAckis: a, b, c, d

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