IRC log for #wowace on 20080812

00:00.17EllipsisPkekyo| :<
00:00.29Ellipsishaha it looks like my sad face is wearing your nick for a hat
00:00.31Pkekyo|Ellipsis: eh?
00:00.37Pkekyo|rofl
00:01.07Ellipsisum yeah I think I had a reason for the sad face but I don't remember what
00:01.11Pkekyo|:p
00:01.13Ellipsisbut :< at you anyway!
00:01.22Pkekyo|plonk at you too!
00:01.41Pkekyo|either way, I'm off...haven't slept for....a fuckload of hours, and I can't keep my eyes open :)
00:01.44CIA-4503Allara 07WotLK * r80207 10HitsMode/ (Changes.txt HitsMode.lua Locales/HitsMode.enUS.lua): HitsMode: Added support for runes and runic power
00:01.49AiianeNeo|Home: that's the result of adding new classes by no new healer
00:01.59Aiianeall of the healing classes are old/boring by now
00:02.06Ellipsisnighty night Pkekyo|
00:02.07CIA-4503toadkiller * r80208 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
00:02.07CIA-45LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
00:02.07CIA-45-- Gold Medal 37297, Empty Thaumaturgy Vessel 7866
00:02.12Aiianeand noone wants to level as a healer if they dont have the motivation of it being a new class
00:03.11Diaoo_o
00:03.18Diaoall of the healers in my guild like their class lol
00:03.32Neo|Homewell
00:03.33Aiianesure, but that doesnt necessarily mean you want to level as it
00:03.37AiianeI like playing a holy priest
00:03.40Neo|HomeI think the healers are pretty interesting in wotlk
00:03.44Aiianebut ill be damned if i want to level to 80 as holy
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00:03.52Neo|Homewhy would you?
00:03.53Diaowell
00:03.55Diaofrom what they said
00:03.58Diaoso many dks and stuff
00:04.02Diaothat they want to stay heal spec
00:04.02Gnarfozuhm
00:04.04Neo|Homeaccording to Blizzard you won't need to be holy spec to heal the leveling instance
00:04.04Diaoto heal instances
00:04.10Gnarfozwhy can I just walk out of Dalaran
00:04.14Gnarfozthrough sewer pipes oO
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00:04.22erikhheh
00:04.26Diaobut then
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00:04.34Gnarfozthank god I'm a paladin oO
00:04.46Neo|Homealso shouldn't have to be tank spec to tank them
00:04.49erikhnah, i'm going to get my t2 feral shit to level my healer
00:04.59Diao8 of our 10 consistent healers are female and partnered with a dps/tank class in the guild, lol
00:05.21Aiiane>.>
00:05.24Diaoso leveling isn't an issue for them
00:05.51Aiianethe former doesnt really matter, the latter makes all the difference :P
00:06.00Diaoyeah it's just funny
00:06.06Diaoeverytime we recruit someone
00:06.07Ellipsisthe former matters
00:06.13Ellipsisboobies get you levels
00:06.15Diaothey're like "wtf why are there so many females in this guild"
00:06.16Aiiane..
00:06.24erikhI imagine that's one guild that doesn't have the tanks and healers yelling at each other all the time
00:06.26Ellipsisyou can just flash the npc's and they'll be like "here, have my xp!"
00:06.29Diaorofl
00:06.32erikhor at least, not over vent
00:06.34Diaoyeah actually
00:06.38Diaowe blame the dps for failing usually
00:06.38Aiiane~lart Ellipsis
00:06.38purlputs Ellipsis into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of Ellipsis's hair of
00:06.42Diaonot the healers or tanks
00:06.50EllipsisAiiane: well it works for me...
00:06.51Diaolike
00:07.03Diaowtf were you stupid dps standing in the fire for! we can't heal you through that
00:07.04Ellipsisor wait, was that GMs and raid spots....I forget
00:07.17erikhheh
00:07.28Aiianei think its the latter Ellipsis :P
00:07.35Ellipsisshrugs
00:07.42Ellipsiseither way, we have an advantage!
00:07.46Aiianeif the former worked id be a lot less frustrated at times
00:07.50Aiiane:P
00:08.01Diaolol
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00:08.12erikhyes, meanwhile men are feverishly working on creating a walking pair of tits that don't talk
00:08.15erikh:P
00:08.29Aiianegood luck to them with that
00:09.40DiaoI dunno.. seems like that would get boring fast
00:10.40Neo|Homeyeah. I mean,, would they be able to clean and cook and take care of the kids?
00:10.48erikhheh.
00:11.06Ellipsisisn't that what mexicans are for?
00:11.08Ellipsishides
00:11.17Neo|Homeonly if you live to the south
00:11.24Neo|Homeunfortunately Canadians don't work
00:12.46Diaolol
00:13.16DARKGuythrows a taco at Ellipsis
00:13.30Ellipsiscatches it in her mouth
00:13.34EllipsisOM NOM NOM
00:13.39DARKGuyO.O
00:13.44DARKGuythrows a burrito now
00:13.55EllipsisOM NOM NOM
00:14.59Gnarfozhttp://users.4x4wh.com/ross/special/cookiemonster.jpg .
00:15.06Zyndrometortilla plx
00:15.12Ellipsisgrins
00:16.29DARKGuyxD!
00:16.47DARKGuypets Ellipsis o.o;
00:18.39Gnarfozpat
00:18.40Gnarfoz:<
00:18.47Gnarfozalso fix beta now
00:18.48Gnarfoz:L<
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00:25.12sbGnarfoz: beta down>?
00:25.23Gnarfoznot anymore
00:26.46kagarohrmm cant mount in if on beta
00:27.27Aiianeyep
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00:27.29Aiianeor org
00:27.33sbor UC
00:27.36sbreally sucks :(
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00:27.45Ellipsisor shatt center, etc.
00:27.57sbshat works for me?
00:27.59sb!
00:28.21Ellipsisnot the center ring around adal
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00:29.14CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80214 10Prat/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
00:29.14CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
00:29.14CIA-45Fix startup issues. Works so far.
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00:33.43Neo|HomeI wonder how they managed to prevent mounting in some areas while you're still able to ride there if you mount outside the area (for example in SW harbor)
00:34.09selckinyou can mount just fine in sw harbor
00:34.18selckinjust not on the stair sides
00:34.19Neo|Homethat was my point
00:34.25Ellipsissame way they make some spots where you can mount but get instantly dismounted (though that's still rare)
00:34.36Neo|Homeapparently no-mount zone ~= no ride zone
00:34.39Neo|Homewhich makes no sense
00:34.46Ellipsiswelcome to blizzard
00:34.51Neo|Homeidneed
00:35.11selckini don't get what you mean then
00:35.23selckinsw harbor was normal zone when afaik
00:39.12Neo|Homethey have two zones
00:39.30Neo|Homeone that dismounts you (indoors for example) and one that prevents you from mounting, but where you can ride freely
00:39.46Neo|Homeit makes no sense to have that differentiation but they do, obviously, from the new bug
00:40.31chexsumid like it if they kept that
00:40.46chexsumtheres too many dragon mounts in shattrath
00:41.22Neo|Homeit's horrible
00:41.44Neo|Homerunning around in SW, IF etc without a mount is painful
00:41.57Neo|Homeand in shatt it's not an issue anyway since the area you can't mount in is really small
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00:44.00Ackisnymbia: fishing daily = croc pet one
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00:44.10nymbiaAckis: damn you!
00:44.14Ackis?
00:44.25nymbiabeen trying to get those, lol ;)
00:44.27nymbiagrats
00:44.33Ackisit's up today
00:44.36Ackisso you can do it
00:44.38nymbiaOH
00:44.39nymbiarofl
00:44.42nymbianice!
00:44.42Ackis:P
00:44.43nymbiathanks
00:44.44CIA-4503nymbia * r80215 10StatStain/ (StatStain-zhCN.lua StatStain.toc):
00:44.44CIA-45StatStain:
00:44.44CIA-45- Add zhCN translation by wowui.cn
00:44.46AckisI was informing you
00:44.48Ackissheesh
00:44.54Ackiscamps the fishing spot
00:44.56Matrix110the quest is retarted and hates me
00:45.03Matrix110I did the SW one now 15times orso
00:45.03nymbiawell i'm going to get indignant about it anyway.
00:45.04Matrix110no pet
00:45.07nymbiaso there
00:45.14Zyndromepets his Snarly croc
00:45.21Matrix110guild member did it 2 times and got 2 pets......
00:45.29Ackishehe
00:45.40Matrix110even different ones
00:46.09Matrix110I killed Frost Lord mufasa or whatever he was called again 30times didnt see the pet drop once
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00:46.55ZyndromeMufasa ._.
00:47.13Zyndromeyou mean Ahune :p
00:47.23CIA-4503Allara 07WotLK * r80216 10HitsMode/ (Changes.txt HitsMode.lua Locales/HitsMode.enUS.lua): HitsMode: Added support for overhealing and SPELL_BUILDING_HEALED
00:47.41Matrix110yeah that one
00:48.10nymbiamufasa, ahune, same thing
00:48.40Matrix110Not to mention at lvl 60 before BWL etc. I killed Baron 80times and didnt see the Magister Legs drop....the first time ive seen them drop was when I duod strat with a Paladin friend :D
00:48.56Matrix110wow hates me
00:50.09nymbiathose magister legs were a pain in the ass
00:50.10Matrix110Atleast strat gave lots of mats for enchanting
00:50.10nymbiai think i had netherwind by the time i had em drop
00:50.55Matrix110oh netherwind.. another nice thing i had 7/8 as 2nd on my server but it took 8 weeks till i got my 8th part a rogue from us completed his whole T2 before me and he got his first piece when i had my 7 already...
00:51.10nymbiahaha
00:51.10Zyndromehah, Netherwind ... the belt had like the same droprate as the thunderfury-parts
00:51.22Matrix110And it wasnt even DKP missing for that part
00:51.25nymbiamy last peice of netherwind was the crown, oddly enough
00:51.33Matrix110it was just pure wow evilness
00:51.41Matrix110Crown was my 2nd part I think
00:51.45Ackisi just did wc lol
00:52.37Ackisand outside of WC a shaman
00:52.39AckisFuBar - HonorFu: Kill: Private Reedina. 20 honor gained. Killed 2 times today
00:52.40Ackishahaha
00:52.41Ackisankhed
00:52.44Zyndrome(back when epics felt epic)
00:53.43Ackisqueues nymbia to mock that person
00:53.44nymbiarofl Ackis
00:54.20nymbiahe's from <Blakk Opz>, careful!!!
00:54.49Ackishahah
00:55.08Ackisyou should tell him he has the pleasure if getting killed by the author of ackis recipe list ahhahahah
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00:56.23nymbiaROFL
00:56.34Ackisomg that made me remember
00:57.32Ackisback in swg whenever I killed someone they'd get a letter in the mail from me: You were just killed by the ownwer of Ackis Inc Droids.  Maybe if you had a probot, you would have survived.
00:57.38Ackisand it had a waypoint to my store heheh
00:57.59nymbiathat's harsh
00:58.01nymbialol
00:58.34Ackisoh it pissed so many people off
00:59.56Ackisgood ole days :D lol
00:59.59Neo|HomeSO many things I miss from SWG
01:00.10Neo|Homeand so many things I'm glad I never have to think about again..
01:00.26Neo|HomeI was a rich SWG doctor, making the best meds on the server
01:00.44Neo|Homeand paying literal hordes of players to farm high quality avian meat for me :P
01:01.23AckisI was a rich droid engineer
01:01.38Ackisand a forum whore
01:01.43Ackisnow I'm just a whore =/
01:02.31Neo|Homedroid engineer, a friend was one
01:02.39Neo|Homewas to a large degree "broken crafting profession" engineer
01:02.49Neo|HomeI also made the best crafting station and crafting tools :P
01:03.07Ackisit was the most broken crafting profession
01:03.07Neo|Homewas an architech for a while to making large number of buildins
01:03.12Neo|Homeit was a lot of fun
01:03.27Neo|HomeI mean I never was the guy for weapon and armor crafting (too damn complex)
01:03.33Neo|Homebut I liked the system as a whole
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01:03.41Neo|Homeit's what kept me in there for so long
01:04.19AckisI liked cybering
01:04.38Ackisin theed palace it was win
01:05.16Neo|Homeplayer cities rocked too once they got those in
01:05.31Neo|Homeit's a bummer half the game was utter fail
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01:05.45Ackisplayer cities were disappointing
01:05.48AckisPex was sweet though
01:05.50Neo|Homelike the complete lack of game content involving adventuring and killing
01:06.02Neo|Homewe had a very nice player city
01:06.21Neo|HomeI was never very in-depth in my house decorating because, frankly, the placing system sucked donkey balls
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01:07.00Neo|Homein my quest to become a Jedi, I also leveled muscian and dancer. those were well... afk leveling ftw
01:09.25CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80217 10Prat/modules/CopyChat.lua:
01:09.26CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
01:09.26CIA-45Add copychat fix to live branch.
01:09.55sylvanaarhow are you guys handling running on live and wotlk?
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01:10.11Matrix110Iam lost on the Beta Servers
01:10.18Matrix110Standardui
01:10.25Matrix110Iam slowly rebuilding atm
01:10.36Matrix110but the Servers are so fucked up when I want to do it
01:10.48Matrix110and changing stuff with ~3mins reloadui 5mins login fails
01:11.22sylvanaarlame
01:11.31Matrix110Dunno how US Servers run
01:11.42Matrix110but EU ones are major fail in the peak times
01:11.42sylvanaarthey are same as live
01:12.18Matrix110The Beta realm doesnt even have queues but Login and loading takes 10-20times aslong as on normal realms
01:13.14nymbiayeah the US ones are pretty solid
01:14.41Matrix110I hope ours get a bit more stable aswell...
01:14.50Matrix110And the ping on the beta realm is horrible
01:15.07Matrix110normally double compared to live and random lag spikes
01:16.13Matrix110Hope it gets better
01:16.27Matrix110friends says in the morning beta servers are totally fine
01:16.37Matrix110but iam sleeping then
01:16.38Matrix110:D
01:17.27nymbiabetter change you entire life around to play beta, quick!
01:18.01JerleMinarablizzconn tickets still screwwwede
01:18.10Matrix110That reminds me of a guy that applied to us
01:18.23Matrix110"I played Tennis, but I couldnt raid because of it so I quit"
01:18.58nymbiahaha
01:19.42Zyndromehttp://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/offshore-reports-southern-california-usa/112995-senor-hefe.html
01:19.45Zyndromenow that's a fishing story
01:20.45Matrix110lots of text and pictures
01:20.49Matrix110requires time
01:20.53Matrix110hmmm
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01:22.43Matrix110god how many pcis are that
01:22.55Matrix110my finger hurts from scrolling
01:23.12Zyndromemah boi
01:23.23ZyndromePgUp/PgDn
01:24.21Matrix110I fished http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13917
01:24.23Matrix110he cant beat that
01:25.40Zyndromehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34484#comments
01:25.41Zyndromewhat?!
01:25.48Zyndromeimma go fish that!
01:28.16JerleMinaralol and blizzard store back down for maintenance
01:28.20JerleMinaragoddamnit :(
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01:49.32vithosso my combatlog isn't working at all
01:49.49vithoson illidan
01:50.00vithosbigwigs/omen not working.  and same with 1 other person in the raid
01:50.21vithosbut hey, still get that annoying lag for flame burst.  so apparently it's not addon related?
01:52.01Zhinjiohrm
01:52.04Zhinjiodid CIA die?
01:52.55selckindod took over
01:54.13Zhinjioha
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01:57.34CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80218 10Prat/modules/CopyChat.lua:
01:57.34CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
01:57.34CIA-45Fix the BBCode copychat
01:57.51CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80221 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Update power OnUpdate for player
01:58.15CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80222 10Prat/ (addon/modules.lua services/links.lua):
01:58.15CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
01:58.15CIA-45Remove some debug spam.
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02:01.15CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80224 10Prat/ (addon/modules.lua services/links.lua):
02:01.15CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
02:01.16CIA-45Merge up debug spam removal
02:01.36sylvanaargettin lame having 2
02:02.16sylvanaarthey dont really differ much either - only a few lines of code
02:02.30nymbiayeah, working in two trees is a bitch :(
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02:04.04aestildurcyn: does heatsync show timers for like SnD up time as well?
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02:05.44selckinsylvanaar: thats why you need git and easy merging
02:06.19sylvanaargit has shitty tools for windows
02:06.54sylvanaarsvn 1.5 would be good enough
02:07.07orionshockimo they all have craptastic tools
02:07.11orionshock90% of them are CLI
02:07.33selckinCLI = good.
02:07.49orionshockCLI is bad, old school and if i wanted a dos prompt id run one
02:07.59orionshockit's all about having a nice GUI
02:08.08Ackiss/nice/effective/
02:08.08CIA-4503zhinjio * r80225 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua:
02:08.08CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
02:08.08CIA-45- finish testgui commit changes (left out file)
02:08.18selckincompletely wrong
02:08.24orionshockthat too Ackis
02:09.06ZhinjioI love doing guis
02:09.12ag`some stuff you can do in CLI better than in GUIs
02:09.14Zhinjio^^
02:09.27ag`but not sure file management is one of them
02:09.33selckinsylvanaar: msysgit is quite decent on windows
02:09.54orionshockag`: file management in a cli is a nighmare
02:10.08selckinlol
02:10.20sylvanaarwell, whatever i used had no way to explore the file system at the same time as running git commands
02:10.27sylvanaarit was total shit
02:10.31ag`it does depend on what you're doing though
02:10.40ag`some file operations you can do faster in cli
02:11.02sylvanaaryeah
02:11.05ag`sylvanaar, open multiple terminals? :D
02:11.12sylvanaarfuck that
02:11.17ag`>.>
02:11.32sylvanaarits just not ready for prime time
02:11.49sylvanaari dont need to merge 5000 trees
02:12.16selckingive it a fair try and take the time to learn, and i'm sure you'll never use svn again
02:12.55sylvanaarit needs a good UI tool - like tortoise.
02:13.24StanzillaI tried it yesterday and failed :P
02:13.35selckinif you're that set against cli, then yea i guess its a no go
02:13.45sylvanaari am - i wont use cli
02:13.55Ellipsistortoise is a GOOD UI tool?
02:13.58sylvanaaryep
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02:14.18AckisI dropped tortoise in favour of CLI because I felt it was poorly done =/
02:14.18Ellipsiseh, to each their own I guess...
02:14.20selckinwindows just needs a good shell and terminal app
02:14.25JerleMinarai like tortoise myself
02:14.59sylvanaarfor me tortoise is very intuitive
02:15.06JerleMinarayep
02:15.16JerleMinarai like the shell integration
02:15.33JerleMinarai do work directly in my interface folder
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02:15.48EllipsisI don't like things adding tons of crap to my context menus, especially if I only use them on a few select files anyway
02:16.28EllipsisI'd rather leave a command line open pointing to my interface folder and run svn from there
02:16.53CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80226 10Prat/ (addon/addon.lua modules/Clear.lua):
02:16.53CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
02:16.53CIA-45Remove some more spam.
02:18.13CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80227 10Prat/ (addon/addon.lua modules/Clear.lua):
02:18.13CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
02:18.13CIA-45See above
02:18.49Obelixprimecan you stop following someone using a macro?
02:19.09sylvanaarEllipsis you can disable tortoise on every directory except the ones you use it in
02:19.45sylvanaaror rather enable it only in the directories you use it
02:20.50EllipsisI could, or I could just install a simple tool that has all the features I need and *doesn't* clutter up any other system interface stuff
02:21.48JerleMinarasylv: how do you do that, actually?
02:21.54JerleMinarai honestly havne't bothered poking around with tortoise too much
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02:23.20CIA-4503Allara 07WotLK * r80228 10HitsMode/HitsMode.lua: HitsMode: - Now won't show overhealing if 0
02:26.24sylvanaarJerleMinara its in the options for overlays
02:27.03JerleMinarathat's the overlays, does that hide the context menu options too?
02:27.08sylvanaarEllipsis yeah - whatever floats your boat
02:27.23sylvanaarJerleMinara yeah, you cant remove those i guess
02:27.33selckinObelixprime: yes
02:28.18sylvanaarJerleMinara you will always have the tortoise submenu - but you can remove all the top level items
02:29.07sylvanaaryou can set them so they wont show up unless you are right clicking on a controlled file
02:31.57AckisI don't know why but my pitbull frames got unlocked... :(
02:34.25starlonI blame the hunters
02:34.31starlonalways blame them
02:37.47CIA-4503aiiane * r80229 10AiiDLink/ADLHelpFrame.xml: AiiDLink: Slight tweaks to help frame.
02:38.10sylvanaarall i want to play is warhammer - and it is down
02:38.16sylvanaar><
02:38.29Ackis^
02:38.34AckisI want blizzcon tickets too
02:39.14AdysWhat was that ace version of Bagnon?
02:40.20Adysnm got it
02:46.48raegxbaggins or onebag
02:47.08raegxonebag works in wotlk baggins currently does not, if that matters
02:48.11Aiianeum
02:48.14Aiianebaggins works...
02:48.20raegxdoes it now?
02:48.22vithosbaggins works.
02:48.26AiianeI've been using it...
02:48.27raegxin the beta
02:48.28raegx?
02:48.30Aiianeyes
02:48.35raegxis there a wotlk branch?
02:48.39JerleMinarano
02:48.40raegxi didn't see one
02:48.43JerleMinarait just works
02:48.51Aiianeno, it just works
02:49.10raegxwell then color me puprle
02:49.16raegxpurple*
02:49.22sacarascraegx: http://www.wowwiki.com/WotLK_AddOn_status might be of help to you
02:49.36raegxpretty, ty
02:50.16CIA-4503archarodim * r80230 10Decursive/ (6 files):
02:50.16CIA-45Decursive:
02:50.16CIA-45-
02:52.31KillmoreArcharodim!
02:52.54Killmoresee my message?
02:53.59CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80231 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua:
02:53.59CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
02:53.59CIA-45Disable tab complete. Causes the game to lockup.
02:54.04Groktari really, really wish they'd remove that dagger from illidan's loot table
02:54.18raegxshard of azzinoth?
02:54.22Groktarywa
02:54.24Groktar*ya
02:54.26raegxyeap /agreed
02:54.41Groktarfreaking triple vanq/dagger
02:54.44Groktaragain
02:55.41aestilour b team is killing illlidain now, tonight will be a very rare illidian kill for our progression team.
02:55.44aestilits kinda cool.
02:55.52aestilin 3 months of killing illidian, we havn't got 1 glaive
02:55.55aestilits shitty
02:56.00JerleMinararandom loot is random
02:56.18raegxrandom seeded loot is semi-random = (
02:56.23Groktartry 8 months
02:56.27Groktarand 1 mh
02:56.29Groktar><
02:56.31raegx=(
02:56.45Groktarthey shouldn't even have them in the game
02:56.51CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80232 10Prat/modules/PlayerNames.lua:
02:56.51CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
02:56.51CIA-45Disable tab complete. Causes the game to lockup.
02:56.53Groktartbh
02:57.06raegxthey should have made the spire of karabor legendary and packed a few more stats on it (like more mp5)
02:57.13raegx=D
02:57.25Groktarlegendaries shouldn't be a random drop
02:57.40raegxpain in the ass crafted item from random drops?
02:57.46raegx=D
02:58.08vithos~seen apoco
02:58.14purlapoco <i=Apoco@adsl-99-162-57-237.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18d 21h 7m 4s ago, saying: 'Arrowmaster: pm'.
02:58.51CIA-4503archarodim * r80233 10Decursive/localization.lua: (log message trimmed)
02:58.51CIA-45Decursive:
02:58.51CIA-45(revision 80230 changes)
02:58.52CIA-45- The bug tracking message about "mouseover is not MUF" will only be displayed
02:58.52CIA-45when the user tries to click on a MUF and if, of course, mousover is not set to
02:58.52CIA-45the MUF's unit (mouseover seems to take its time to be set properly :/).
02:58.54CIA-45- WotLK fix: The priority and skip list were not displayed, and lua error occurred when the list UI was used.
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03:03.41ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4
03:04.26raegx<3 reddit
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03:15.48CIA-45areyouthreateningme: 03Tekkub 07master * rcbdfa5c 10/ README.textile : Readme god damnit
03:17.14CIA-45areyouthreateningme: 03Tekkub 07master * r1a50b24 10/ README.textile : Readme fix, I actually provide a display in this one... at least for the time being.
03:20.05kd3bah. does the wotlk branch of onebag not declare any externals?
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03:27.06BadjetQuestion, is there a list of ace addons that work in WotLK?
03:28.06Badjetguess not
03:28.13Zhinjioyes
03:28.29Zhinjiohttp://www.wowwiki.com/Wotlk_Addon_Status
03:28.52Badjettyvm
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03:31.55elite3vilRandom question: Any paladins here that go prot for KJ?
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03:33.35Badjethaven't progressed that far =(
03:34.34elite3vilThe reflections are just absoultely raping me.
03:40.13RaydenUniwhat's the drop rate on the new BG pet?
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03:47.05Zhinjiothe most I've heard from guildies is about 5 or 6 wins
03:47.10CIA-4503neotron * r80234 10ButtonBin/ButtonBin.lua:
03:47.10CIA-45ButtonBin:
03:47.10CIA-45- When opening the config for a bin, go directly to the config page of that bin.
03:47.33IssorAlright, quick question here. I'm writing an addon that deals with chat_msg_whisper. I register it on enable, but when I receive whispers my event handler doesn't do anything - any reason for this, aside from the fact that I have no idea what I'm doing and that's why I'm here? -_-
03:48.04Zhinjiopastey your code, please
03:48.45Issorsec
03:49.41IssorOnEvent:
03:49.43Issorfunction LastWhispered:OnEnable()
03:49.44Issor<PROTECTED>
03:49.44Issorself:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER")
03:49.44Issorend
03:49.51Zhinjioplease use a pastey site
03:49.54Zhinjiodon't spam the channel
03:50.04Issoroh, I see what you mean. My bad.
03:54.47aestilglaives, which actually matter for guilds going through sunwell, should be more attainable than 'omg we are lucky'
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03:55.48elite3vilaestil: Make it kinda like splinters and whatnot?
03:56.01CodayusSplinter system = good
03:56.08CodayusAll other legendary systems = bad
03:56.17IssorLegendaries = bad
03:56.31CodayusNot if they aren't retarded to get...
03:56.37Codayus:-)
03:56.54IssorMeh - at least PVE gear doesn't dominate PVP gear like it did Pre-BC.
03:57.00IssorFor some classes, anyway -_-
03:57.35CodayusTF was a good example of fail.  Need better threat gen in Nax?  Farm MC.  That makes sense, sure!
03:58.11aestilsplinters were fine
03:58.18aestilespecially since they dropped of a lot of bosses.
03:58.35aestilwhatever.
03:58.39aestilwe are on m'uru now,
03:58.45aestiland glaives havn't been an issue
03:58.54aestilbut i imagine stuff would have been easier with a set of them
03:58.57aestilon our best rogue
03:59.50CodayusYeah
04:01.21CodayusFunny, the best legendary system was used on what may have been the worst legendary...  Well, apart from sulf, I guess.  :-)
04:03.35IssorYou must be horde, or at least before TBC.
04:03.50CodayusWhy?
04:03.53IssorEver been WFed in the face by a shaman with sulf as a clothie?
04:04.01CodayusHeh
04:04.13IssorWorst legendary my ass
04:04.21CodayusNo, alliance, but didn't pvp much.  I don't think I've ever seen a shaman with sulf...
04:04.27IssorAh
04:04.30IssorIt hurts. A lot.
04:04.34IssorWell, did hurt.
04:04.36CodayusOnly some lol-ret pallies.  Who were, eh, alright I guess.
04:04.42Arrowmasterworst legendary was the staff
04:05.41CodayusArguable, sulf was pretty boring.  At least the staff had some random auras and stuff.  And opening portals in the AV tunnel never got old.
04:05.55Codayus(Baddly bugged auras, in the case of the warlock staff, IIRC...)
04:07.43CodayusBut yeah, it was lame compared to TF or the TBC legendaries...
04:08.25aestilwell, the legendary hunter bow... it doesn't make sense.
04:08.32aestilwhy put it in the game, when there is almost no use for it.
04:08.39aestilit becomes just a status symbol
04:08.40IssorLack of foresight.
04:08.47aestilwhich all gear, off the last boss in the game always is.
04:08.50CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80235 10Prat/ (Prat-3.0.toc libraries/):
04:08.50CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
04:08.50CIA-45Embed LibSharedMedia-3.0, LibSink-2.0, LibBabbleClass-3.0. Still require
04:08.50CIA-45ace3 standalone
04:08.53CodayusLike there's anything wrong with status symbols...  :-p
04:08.56aestilbut... even worse if its as cool a weapon as that bow is.
04:09.10aestilwell, i think the 'best' gear in the game, should help you kill the hardest shit
04:09.10IssorI think the best part is when people complained about only rogues/warriors getting Warglaives and then when they took class restrictions off... people still complained.
04:09.14CodayusBe interesting to see how quickly it'll get outdated for leveling in wrath.
04:09.24aestilobviously, for the most part, the best gear in the game will also drop of the hardest boss.
04:09.49aestilbut like glaives, weapons of uberness or maybe a shield of uberness for a tank, should drop off something that isn't the last boss in the game.  imo.
04:09.54IssorI think it'll last a while
04:10.21IssorSince SS damage is based off of weapon damage before arrows, not after, so the damage of the bow had to be brought up since it doesn't use arrows.
04:10.26aestilthe change to steady shot will nerf the bow
04:10.27CodayusAnd hey, free ammo = farming weapon?  Maybe?  *shrug*
04:10.49aestilIssor: they are changing that about steady shot
04:11.04aestilCodayus: reparing a legendary weapon is mostly likely much more expensive than buying cheap ammo.
04:11.10AdysAnyone knows how I turn my castbar back on in aguf? the default one
04:11.12CodayusHeh
04:12.23AiianeEnable Castbar?
04:12.29Aiianein Player -> Bars?
04:14.07AdysAiiane: the default blizzard one
04:14.20Adysthat option enables the cast bar in the player frame
04:15.25Aiianeum, as far as I know aguf doesnt disable the default blizzard one
04:15.33Aiianeat least, it doesnt for me
04:15.58Adysuhm
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04:27.06IssorIf there's anyone who doesn't mind taking a quick look at this and helping me figure out why my event handler isn't firing, I'd be much appreciative. http://www.pastey.net/93577
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04:34.07nymbiaIssor: try tossing a print in the :OnEnable to make sure it's running?
04:35.20CIA-4503scorpio0920 * r80236 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua:
04:35.20CIA-45BigWigs:
04:35.20CIA-45- Fixed typo.
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04:48.18CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80237 10Prat/ (Prat-3.0.toc libraries/):
04:48.18CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
04:48.18CIA-45Embed LibSharedMedia-3.0, LibSink-2.0, LibBabbleClass-3.0. Still require
04:48.18CIA-45ace3 standalone
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04:52.59CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80238 10Prat/Prat-3.0.toc:
04:52.59CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
04:52.59CIA-45Make Ace3 a required dependency for now.
04:54.01CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80239 10Prat/Prat-3.0.toc:
04:54.02CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
04:54.02CIA-45Make Ace3 a required dependency for now.
04:58.38Groktaroh my god
04:58.44Groktarwe actually got good loots from illidan
04:59.49Kepwe could healing mace x2 last times off twins, was pretty hilarious =)
05:00.03Kep*got
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05:00.19Kep(7AM + tired + typing= no good)
05:01.38IssorBack pre-TBC, I got two dwarven hand cannons off of the same mob.
05:01.40IssorTrue fax.
05:02.59Kep"Tranquilizing Shot: Cooldown reduced to 15 seconds (down from 20), and now dispels Enrage and Magic effects." <<< does that mean come WotLK, hunters could just tranq illidans enrage? Oo
05:03.30Keptranq shot brutallus, haha
05:03.32vithosi don't imagine it will be for raid bosses
05:04.59JerleMinarait's not
05:05.05JerleMinarathe "enrage" is actually called berserk
05:05.11CIA-4503LordFarlander * r80240 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
05:05.11CIA-45LibLordFarlander-2.0:
05:05.11CIA-45- Removed unneeded count function
05:05.11CIA-45- Added functions to "namify" and "unnamify" strings for use in AceConfig
05:05.11CIA-45- Added function to add extra zones (bgs, instances, etc) to the GetMapZones return
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05:06.36CIA-4503LordFarlander * r80241 10Coconuts/ (. Coconuts.lua embeds.xml locals/localisation.lua):
05:06.36CIA-45Coconuts:
05:06.36CIA-45- Fixed not finding mounts in bags on login
05:06.36CIA-45- Changed the Zone Favorites. Zones are now a tree format (it's snazzy) under the continents
05:06.36CIA-45- Zone Favorites now lists battlegrounds, instances, etc as well
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05:07.24CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80242 10Prat/addon/addon.lua:
05:07.24CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
05:07.24CIA-45Re-enable the hook on chatframe 3
05:08.11CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80243 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (15 files in 14 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Event system change
05:08.12CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80244 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Extras/ (5 files in 5 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Event system change
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05:11.55Neo|Homehttp://eongames.com/wow/bb2.jpg thar be labels
05:12.41CIA-4503LordFarlander * r80245 10MiniPet/ (. MiniPet.lua embeds.xml locals/localisation.lua):
05:12.41CIA-45MiniPets:
05:12.41CIA-45- Changed the Zone Favorites. Zones are now a tree format (it's snazzy) under the continents
05:12.41CIA-45- Zone Favorites now lists battlegrounds, instances, etc as well
05:12.42CIA-4503neotron * r80246 10ButtonBin/ButtonBin.lua: ButtonBin: There be labels. Note this is very rough right now - I want to get per-block configuration but this is sufficient for now.
05:12.53ZhinjioNeo|Home: what is that?
05:13.45Neo|HomeButtonBin
05:13.57Neo|Homeaka my LibDataBroker display addon
05:14.31CIA-4503zhinjio * r80247 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
05:14.31CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
05:14.32CIA-45- new gui work
05:14.32CIA-45- added search button, clear search, expand all, apply filter
05:16.45CIA-4503nikkodemus * r80248 10Acheron/Display.lua:
05:16.45CIA-45Acheron:
05:16.45CIA-45- possible fix for mysterious nil index bug
05:16.45CIA-45- populate channel list from 4+ (rather than 5+)
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05:21.46Xinhuan478 arena points require 1610(5s), 1657(3s) and 1715(2s) team rating.
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05:32.38CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80249 10Prat/modules/AddonMessages.lua:
05:32.38CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
05:32.38CIA-45Fix nil ref to text color service
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05:41.49vithosso my guild lowered the daily repair amount again
05:42.02vithosgood thing i found this genetic algorithm solver for the napsack problem.  http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Exhibit/8033/applets/knapsack/gks.html
05:42.27vithos14g 17s 32c / 14g 18s 66c after 800 generations
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05:46.27CodayusHrm, I'm missing the connection.
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05:46.48Aiianerepair only certain items? heh
05:46.56Aiianewithout going over the limit
05:47.06vithosyeah, finding what is optimal to single repair before hitting the guild repair button
05:47.18CodayusOh, right
05:47.52CodayusGood thinking.
05:49.40CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80250 10Prat/modules/ChatLog.lua:
05:49.41CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
05:49.41CIA-45Fix reported errors in the chatlog module.
05:50.02CodayusHmm, swordguard embroidery - interesting.  Wonder if they really are trying to make all professions good for all classes...
05:50.14Codayus...would be nice, I think...
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06:00.29WobWorkanyone know what sort of reboot we have in the US?
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06:10.49WobWorkZhinjio: thanks
06:11.26Zhinjionp
06:12.42Neo|Homeso is there an event when the UI scale changes?
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06:14.02Groktaramazingly bad teams doing arena atm
06:14.20Groktarlooks for Neo|Home's event
06:14.49Lyn_he has the whoooole wooorld in his a.. hands :o
06:15.40ZhinjioNeo|Home: not sure. thats a good question though.
06:15.46Zhinjiodo you hcnage ui stuff based on scaling?
06:16.10Groktari see a display size changed
06:16.16Groktardoes that fire on ui resize?
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06:19.08KepNeo|Home: CVAR_UPDATE?
06:19.19Kep(arg1 being uiScale, arg2 being the new scale?)
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06:27.41Lyn_oh no... bring me the egg quest buggy ._. no bird spawn
06:31.42Neo|Homeon a mac i happens when I swap from fullscreen to windowed mode it would seem
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06:53.27CIA-4503adirelle 07oo * r80254 10Yatba/Yatba/Yatba.lua: Yatba: got it.
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07:04.22ElkanoAckis: ping?
07:05.40ZhinjioElkano: he went to bed a couple hours ago
07:05.49Elkanohmm, k :)
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07:07.52Lyn_sleep is for the weak! ;)
07:08.38Lukian_!ar 1422
07:08.38Xinhuan1422 arena points require 2471(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating.
07:08.44Lukian_!ap 1422
07:08.45Xinhuan1422 rating gives 326(5s), 287(3s) and 248(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
07:09.09CIA-4503rabbit * r80255 10oUF_Banzai/oUF_Banzai.lua: oUF_Banzai: Update for oUF API change.
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07:11.27Lyn_~seen rabbit
07:11.28purlrabbit <n=rabbit@LSt-Amand-152-33-1-196.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 207d 19h 22m 13s ago, saying: 'Hi'.
07:11.33Lyn_woot
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07:13.49Fisker-WTF
07:13.53Fisker-I WANT TO DESTROY YOU ELKANO
07:13.55Fisker-I HOPE YOU DIE
07:14.13ElkanoI ALONE AM BEST!
07:14.33Fisker-I JUST DIED TO MOBS
07:14.50Fisker-I WAS RUNNING LIKE 0.1 FPS AND THEN I DIED AND WOOPS 1 BILLION FPS
07:14.58Fisker-I HATE SHITTY BUGS THAT MAKE ME DIE
07:15.12Elkanoomg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHwNDpFbi0&feature=related
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07:15.29Lyn_oO
07:15.39Lyn_owned i say?
07:15.48Lyn_Fisker-, which mod do you mean? XD
07:16.02Fisker-omg Elkano
07:16.08Fisker-you made my day
07:16.10Fisker-i like you now
07:16.12CIA-4503andyca * r80256 10LibBabble-Class-3.0/LibBabble-Class-3.0.lua:
07:16.12CIA-45LibBabble-Class-3.0
07:16.12CIA-45- update zhTW
07:16.24Fisker-Lyn_ what mod?
07:16.29Elkanook... Chatter doesn't work with WotLK :(
07:16.36Aiianeum
07:16.39Aiianeit works for me?
07:16.41Aiianeo_o
07:16.42Lyn_lol @ cops
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07:16.56Lyn_Fisker-, you said 0.1 fps because of elkano
07:16.57ElkanoI'm getting an error when hovering over a chat tab
07:17.11Lyn_Elkano, it works... you need a version of branch
07:17.12Aiianewhat's the error
07:17.14Funkeh`there's a wotlk branch
07:17.19Elkanooh, k
07:17.20Aiianeand did you get the wotlk branch :P
07:17.27Fisker-no i just hate Elkano because of it
07:17.30Fisker-and now it happened again
07:17.33Fisker-so i can login dead, gg
07:17.35Lyn_ahso
07:17.37Lyn_:D
07:17.49Lyn_wohow soon i'm 67
07:17.51Lyn_niice
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07:20.48ElkanoArrowmaster: ping?
07:20.56Fisker-if i die again Elkano
07:21.33Elkanothen you're dead
07:23.15Fisker-i will die you Elkano
07:23.57Elkanoyou thought me dead? D-E-D... dead... didn't you?
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07:35.41Cheadsuhm isn't there supposed to be a boat from Theramore to Borean Tundra?
07:37.00Lyn_mh... should, yeah
07:39.48Cheadsdoesn't looks like it
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07:49.35KriLL3perhaps it sank
07:49.51KriLL3icebergs are damn treacherous
07:50.06KriLL3and those whales, can't trust em
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08:01.59CIA-4503nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r80257 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.lua modules/combattext/combattext.lua): ag_UnitFrames: tweaks, fixes, and corrections for 3.0
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08:16.27orionshockanyone know if Rating Buster is functional in beta?
08:16.37Lyn_there exist a working version on wowinterface
08:16.41Lyn_beta category
08:19.19KriLL3how I wish LK would add a feature to put plugins to addons inside a "plugins" folder inside the addon folder... so we don't need to have a full screen of fubar plugins, and a million parts that makes up aucioneer etc
08:23.07ZhinjioKriLL3: addon authors can already do that, using LoD modules ... but many choose not to
08:23.33KriLL3shouldn't be a choice then...
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08:24.30orionshockKriLL3: it's the lesser of 2 evils,
08:26.19Lukian!ap 1330
08:26.20Xinhuan1330 rating gives 306(5s), 269(3s) and 233(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
08:28.03KriLL3how can you manage to get that far bellow 1500?
08:28.05Elkanooh great... allianze bombing misson on hellfire peninsula and my griffin is stuck in midair :/
08:30.06KriLL3why are gold spammers sending 1 copper with their mails?
08:37.09LukianKriLL3, avoiding filters
08:37.26Lukianitems with attachments probably aren't parsed for spam
08:37.51KriLL3...
08:37.59KriLL3block all messages with one copper?
08:38.21XuerianZhinjio: You can LoD specific files in a single addon folder now?
08:38.41LukianKriLL3, and if a player accidently adds 1 copper?
08:38.57KriLL3stuff him down a chute
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08:39.32Brunersdont think you want to have a filter ignore gold :P
08:39.50KriLL3funny thing is that the mails are all identical
08:40.00KriLL3and their spam filter can't catch em?
08:42.04KriLL3why does battleground numbers keep building? I'm in AV #2500+ atm
08:42.24Brunershave been like that for a couple of days
08:42.39KriLL3how high can it go?
08:43.09KriLL3will the servers die at 9999 ?
08:43.30Brunerswhy would they ? :P
08:44.01KriLL3can't count higher perhaps?
08:44.57clad|sleepI think its because of the change they made
08:45.08clad|sleepremember that a limited amount of instances could open in a given period of time
08:45.12clad|sleepand they relaxed that
08:45.25cladhaireI keep getting into like 1500 and its fun :P
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08:51.17CIA-45- added Swift Zhewra
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08:52.27Xinhuan26th guild kills illidan on my server, now there's nobody to buy BT instances from zzz
08:52.47Xinhuannext best is stuck on gorefiend or something
08:53.24nevcairielhaha
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08:54.24Brunersonly 2 guilds horde side that have killed illidan
08:55.15KriLL3that's weak
08:56.23Brunersnow there is only one since my guild disbanded :P
08:57.46Fisker-Xinhuan ;_;
08:57.47Fisker-http://wowjutsu.com/eu/ravencrest/
08:57.51Fisker-horde is kinda dead :D
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09:00.56cladhaireFisker-: that's right, I remember us talking before about being on ravencrest :P
09:01.24Fisker-atleast i r rich
09:01.36cladhaireI really wish I could be horde =/
09:01.40cladhaireI'm pissed at haste
09:01.41cladhaire:(
09:01.41Fisker-though rich isn't rich anymore :(
09:01.46cladhaireoh well
09:01.53Fisker-i can kill him
09:01.56Punkiewhy be horde when you can roll a dwarf female?
09:01.56Fisker-if i weren't a holy pala
09:02.01cladhaireat least haste makes me bags
09:02.04cladhaire:P
09:02.22CIA-4503nevcairiel 07WotLK * r80261 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: Ace3 - merge changes from development branch
09:03.20Fisker-i can make you bags!
09:03.30cladhairearen't you a hordie?
09:03.49cladhairewell, I'm level 63 and I'd die before rolling yet ANOTHER druid from level 1 :P
09:04.00Fisker-just sell me mats over gadgetzan ah
09:04.12cladhairelol haste supplies the mats for me :P
09:04.12cladhaire<3
09:04.34Lyn_xD
09:04.38Fisker-then let him do that and sell me the mats
09:04.39Fisker-:o
09:04.46Lyn_wait für wotlk, then DK a horde!
09:05.14cladhairei can't on the same server
09:05.17cladhairei dunno whether to stay on rc or not
09:05.26cladhairei need an arena team
09:05.30Lyn_ah, pvp server :o
09:05.48cladhairei will roll another DK
09:05.56cladhairehad too much fun in alpha
09:06.33Lyn_:D
09:06.55Lyn_yeah i've fun atm with my dk... hope that bloodworms fix or nerf, dunno, will be not too bad :o
09:07.04Brunershow are Death Knights? are they imba or nerfed to shit ?
09:07.30Fisker-imba, then nerfed to shit, rinse & repeat
09:07.34Lyn_atm they are imba
09:07.54KriLL3they seem to be suffering from being everything you could ever wish, but not overpowered...
09:07.55Lyn_but blizzard will nerf them
09:07.59Lyn_but dunno how much
09:08.09KriLL3like every other hybrid
09:08.18cladhairethey're not a real hybrid
09:08.18Lyn_qq
09:08.31cladhairefor me, a hybrid must be able to heal
09:08.33KriLL3who says the other "hybrids" are?
09:08.34nevcairielthey are a bit like warriors
09:08.38cladhairebeing able to dps, or tank isn't a hybrid
09:08.49KriLL3true that's more warrior like
09:08.54cladhaireblood is OP for grinding and leveling
09:08.59cladhairefrost is still meh
09:09.01nevcairielpallys and druids are the real hybrids imho, they can any role in the game
09:09.02KriLL3but they got at least some ranged dps, warriors don't
09:09.05cladhaireunholy is fun
09:09.24nevcairiels/can/can play/
09:09.38sbplus warriors dont have 2-4k crits with level 65 ;/
09:09.42BrunersDKs cant play healer?
09:10.04KriLL3no way
09:10.06Fisker-DK's are awesome healers
09:10.10KriLL3do they even have heals?
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09:10.21Lyn_thought the mobs on beta have 0 armor, or is that fixed?
09:10.22Fisker-not really
09:10.27Fisker-more lifestealing than healing :P
09:10.34nevcairielthey fixed that Lyn_
09:10.35Fisker-fixed a long time ago
09:10.37Lyn_they only can heal undead minions or self when lichborne
09:10.43Fisker-only bugged for a day or so
09:10.43Lyn_oh, than 2-4k crits are bad on 65
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09:10.51cncfanaticsis the secure sandbox thingy usable yet in wotlk ?
09:10.52Fisker-they do have rune tap though
09:10.54Fisker-if you spec in it
09:10.55cncfanaticsi wont to start coding on it
09:10.58Fisker-which heals you for 10% hp
09:11.01Lyn_yeah and runetap
09:11.03nevcairielcncfanatics: i got bartender to work =P
09:11.09Punkiedeathknights are really fun, even if they are nerfed I will still look to roll one :)
09:11.18cncfanaticsnevcairiel: any docs around ?
09:11.25nevcairielthe code? :)
09:11.26Fisker-i'll probably make a herb/inscription alt
09:11.33Lyn_for farming and grinding, yes i will make a horde dk on my server
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09:11.34Lyn_:o
09:11.35nevcairielalso there was some pdf on the UI Forums
09:11.36Punkiei think i was the only dwarf female DK :D
09:11.39nevcairielget that :p
09:11.43cncfanatics:o cool
09:11.46Lyn_Punkie, female dwarf named BRUNHILDE or so?
09:11.46cncfanaticsbeta or live forums ?
09:11.52Punkieno!
09:11.56Lyn_FREYA!
09:12.00KriLL3gnome female DK with pink hair
09:12.02Punkiemaybe not the only then :'(
09:12.02Lyn_some viking name
09:12.10Punkieshe was called Pesty :P
09:12.28Lyn_sounds pretty for dwarf female
09:12.41Punkiewell she does have big boobies
09:12.45Lyn_why not fugly? :D
09:12.50KriLL3I like the flying braids animation on doorf girls...
09:12.54Punkieme too
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09:12.59Punkiei always pick that :D
09:13.25Punkiebut anyway i like the playing style of deathknights very much
09:13.43cladhairei do as well
09:14.07Punkiei'm not entirely sure how runic power works yet, is it just like rage?
09:14.07KriLL3I just can't see why they had to make it all races
09:14.14KriLL3no
09:14.17Lyn_mh
09:14.25KriLL3it's more like 3 types of energy
09:14.27Lyn_cause everyone can be bad
09:14.39Punkiewell, I randomly get more than I can really use :P
09:15.08nevcairielyou get runic power for using runes
09:15.17nevcairieland some abilities just need runic power then :)
09:15.29Punkieah, that makes a lot of sense :P
09:15.42nevcairielbut yeah, i usually run out of runes before i run out of runic power =P
09:16.15PunkiePersonally I think death strike should be nerfed a little
09:17.00Lyn_i rarely use runic power
09:17.11Lyn_i only think they should unhook the bloodworms of DS
09:17.12Lyn_then its ok
09:17.21Punkiemaybe
09:17.29Lyn_but they will unhook them, as ghostcrawler said
09:17.30Lyn_so
09:17.47Punkieand make them a seperate ability?
09:17.55Lyn_duno
09:18.00cladhairewait
09:18.02Lyn_i hope they dont revert it like it was before
09:18.03cladhaireblood worms are a part of DS now?
09:18.07Lyn_yes
09:18.14cladhaireguaranteed?
09:18.15Punkieonly through talents btw
09:18.18Punkie60%
09:18.19PunkieI think
09:18.19Lyn_60% of DS
09:18.24cladhairethats nubtacular
09:18.24Lyn_full skilled
09:18.30cladhaireit was better before
09:18.31Lyn_thats awesome atm, but really op
09:18.34cladhairebecause you couldn't rely on it.
09:18.39Lyn_i mean, spam 2-3 ds and you got 5-10 worms
09:18.40cladhairebtu it was amazing when you got it
09:18.47cladhaireyeah thats shit
09:18.52Lyn_i hate it, when they would revert it
09:18.53Lyn_i mean
09:18.56cladhairego back to mob dying with disease on it.
09:19.01Lyn_what do you want with worms when mob is dead?
09:19.03cladhairethey were imba then
09:19.06cladhaireyou find another mob
09:19.08cladhairethat's the point :P
09:19.12Lyn_wow...
09:19.15cladhairemake chain grinding fun but unpredictable.
09:19.16Lyn_not worth 3 points
09:19.21cladhairedon't WoW me
09:19.22cladhaireyes it was
09:19.23cladhaireI played it
09:19.26cladhaireand it is and was
09:19.27Lyn_:O
09:19.34orionshockanyone know if u can DC yourself
09:19.40Lyn_i had it, too, but imo it wasnt worth the 3 points
09:19.48Lyn_orionshock, yes, when lichborne is activated
09:20.53Lyn_cladhaire, it is maybe cool, for grinding, yes, maybe its awesome with 4-5 mobs on me... but in some areas the mobs are too far away.. so the 20 sec are over or they do 1 hit and die then
09:21.00Lyn_that is what i mean
09:21.08cladhaireyuou dont need it for the full time
09:21.10cladhaireand you have death grip
09:21.19cladhairethe mobs are never too far away to make it worth it
09:21.23Lyn_what is, when DG is on cd?
09:21.26cladhaireyes, it was a problem when the worms only lasted 15 seconds
09:21.31cladhairethat's a lot of "what if"
09:21.34cladhairei'm _telling_ you
09:21.37cladhaireit worked brilliantly
09:21.37Lyn_;)
09:21.39Lyn_haha
09:21.40cladhaireleveled from 55 -> 68
09:21.43cladhairewith no starting quests
09:21.54cladhaireblood down to worms, unholy down to imp raise dead
09:21.55Lyn_just wait for bloodworm change
09:22.00Lyn_then look :o
09:22.01cladhairei _never_ had to stop
09:22.34cladhairesure, its a nerf
09:22.37cladhairebut i think they played better
09:23.02Lyn_i dont care if they unhook them
09:23.03Lyn_its okay
09:23.06Lyn_it is too op atm
09:23.10cladhairei think the reason they change dit was due to the drop in disease play
09:23.28Lyn_i can kill some big elite alone, with worms, too op
09:23.58cladhairethey'd have no chance before
09:24.05Lyn_see
09:24.06cladhairewould need to proc worms beforehand, and it'ld hel
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09:24.21Lyn_yeah, then
09:24.31Lyn_but atm you can repop them whenever you want
09:24.37cladhairethats dumb
09:24.39Lyn_yes
09:24.46cladhairethey should make it so whatever skill has a 60% chance to put the debuff up
09:24.52cladhaireand the worms don't pop until the mob dies with that on them
09:25.03cladhaireit just makes more sense
09:25.06Lyn_i mean, the current DS is okay, just heal me with disease up for 600 or so.. but combined with worms pop its too op
09:25.09Brunerselite mobs are not what they used to be
09:25.36cladhaireLyn_: is talking.. like 5 man elite mobs
09:25.37Lyn_Bruners, so durn in nagrand should be solo'able?
09:25.40cladhairenot stinky elites
09:25.49Lyn_dont think so
09:25.54BrunersLyn_: should not be
09:26.08Lyn_see
09:26.38cladhairewas better before they nerfed blight
09:26.43cladhaireand howling blast
09:27.15Lyn_never played frost
09:27.23KriLL3is DK the new druid?
09:27.23Lyn_but unholy looks hot atm
09:27.39KriLL3imba one patch nerfed to oblivion the next
09:27.46orionshockKriLL3: no DK is the new bastard RetPally
09:27.53KriLL3kk
09:27.54Lyn_lol when they nerfed druid to hell? lol
09:28.07KriLL3Lyn_: they removed the char delete bomb
09:28.08cladhairewith frost, I used to be able to one-shot a group of 20-40 mobs every 1 minute
09:28.13cladhairewith enough time to eat in between
09:28.26Lyn_haha
09:28.28cladhairewith unholy, i used to be able to chain aoe as many mobs as i could manage healthwise
09:28.31orionshockThink of a DK as a RetPally and Affl-Lock having a kid, then being raised by a Rogue and educated by a seriously Retarted Ret-Pally
09:28.35Lyn_yeah i saw a vid someone hungering cold some mobs
09:28.38cladhaireI lost the videos I made
09:28.39cladhairebut literally
09:28.39Lyn_then crit everyone for 4-5k
09:28.42KriLL3lol
09:28.49cladhaireLyn_: it used to be higher
09:28.52cladhairethat was after the nerf
09:28.52Lyn_;)))
09:28.54cladhaireI had 30 buzzards from in front of Telredor
09:28.56KriLL3imo dk should be a talent tree for paladins..
09:28.57cladhaire6-8k each
09:29.08cncfanaticsthey'll prolly get balanced eventualy
09:29.09cladhaireone shot
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09:29.28cladhaireand blight used to do something ridiculous like 162 damage per tick per stack
09:31.09cladhaireand you can keep it up indefinitely, so :P
09:32.46Lyn_uh gief frost
09:32.48Lyn_8k is nice
09:32.50Lyn_:D
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09:33.31Lyn_yeah and ... the rune blade is... its a rune blade whowo
09:34.29Lyn_oh nice
09:34.35Lyn_lvl 66, heart strike crits for 2,5k
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09:35.43Lyn_cladhaire, should the bloodworms normally only heal what they do on dmg? i mean they do 25 dmg.. so they should heal only 25, right?
09:36.06cladhaireI dunno
09:36.18cladhaireIs Oblit still the best damage producer DKs have?
09:37.06cladhaireshowers
09:39.03Lyn_mh
09:39.05Lyn_maybe
09:39.21Lyn_unskilled, i mean without the 100%disease thingy i like heart strike more
09:39.33Lyn_onlyi  have 33% crit lol
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09:43.45Lyn_cladhaire, i have to admit, i liked the old scent of blood more
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09:46.06tisphieHello. I've sent email to wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com but there is no response. Somebody can tell me why?
09:47.03nevcairielWhen did you send it?
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09:52.18tisphieNechckn, It's 27th July
09:52.39tisphies/Nechckn/nevcairiel/
09:52.50tisphieYeah, thanks :)
09:52.59NechcknWatch it, you!!
09:53.03Nechcknj/k  j/k
09:53.24nevcairielTry to ask Funkeh` about it, i think he answers those now
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09:54.40tisphieOk, I'll
09:55.22tisphieAnd he's away now. I've to wait he come back
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09:58.18jy__coldarra down o/
09:58.21jy__mmh
09:58.52dafirei think it's because of the ghul bug
10:00.15nevcairielban all DKs until its fixed, imho =P
10:00.48nevcairielstupid millions of ghouls breaking the server
10:01.40vithosNeo|Home: ButtonBin looked nice for the 15 seconds i got to look at it before shutdown after i logged in
10:02.44sbalso interesting is...
10:03.06sbif your ghouls are bugged (>1) you see some buff with the duration
10:03.13sbif its only 1 ghoul, nothing like that :o
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10:06.38dafirei always get bad headache when i read the wow forums
10:06.51dafiredunno why
10:06.57eightballfreekyeah, it's like everything about Barrens chat, condensed
10:07.32orionshockcondensed and amplified
10:08.04eightballfreekhehe, yeah.
10:08.22eightballfreekI play Alliance, though, so for me it's more like Goldshire chat.
10:08.26eightballfreeko_O
10:08.49orionshockhehe same idea or ... that one zone west of kara
10:09.22dafireduskwood ?
10:09.28eightballfreekthat's the bunny.
10:09.57eightballfreek"zlolz can sum1 help me plees i cant kill the whearwolfs im level 23 QQ"
10:10.11eightballfreekheaves a world-weary sigh
10:10.28KriLL3people dpmj
10:10.30KriLL3...
10:10.42KriLL3people don't seem to understand there are 20-30 zones
10:10.51KriLL3you don't need to skip to the 30-40 once
10:11.28dafirei hope there is a new beta build up soon
10:11.54KriLL3I hope I get a key soon
10:13.33eightballfreekwould give his left lovespud for a beta key
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10:13.45KriLL3I doubt they'd want it
10:13.59dafirewrite an addon and get a key .9
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10:14.19KriLL3something that says "hello world!" at the start of the game?
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10:15.06dafirea better idea would be more successful I guess
10:15.41eightballfreekI do have an idea for one, but haven't the faintest with Lua at the moment... gonna get a book, I think.
10:16.22CIA-4503Cybersea * r80262 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: added ruRU triggers in Black Temple mods.
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10:17.17Dorjehow good is your php?
10:20.29eightballfreekmy PHP is pretty good, it's what I usually code with.
10:21.07Dorjelua is very simiilar
10:21.26Dorjebrowse through lua.org and you're set
10:21.56dafireor look for addons which might include parts of what you want to do and learn from them .9
10:22.01Dorjeor that
10:22.29Dorjeyou get wowapi from wowwiki.com and that's that :D
10:23.35eightballfreeksweet.
10:23.42eightballfreekI'll certainly give that a go.
10:23.48Dorje:)
10:23.50dafireand check something like http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7366#info
10:23.56dafireto test code in game :9
10:25.31Dorjeor http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4989-SciTE-WOWInterface.html
10:26.17dafireyes .. scite is a good editor for lua .9
10:26.29dafirebut you can't use it in game .9
10:26.46dafirewith wow lua you can change functions of your addon without reloading the interface every time
10:26.52Dorjeoh yea
10:27.03Dorjeit's just a great solution if you want to code and can't run the game :D
10:27.07Dorjelike if you're bored at work
10:27.18dafirei can run game at work .9
10:27.22Dorjelucky bugger
10:27.45eightballfreekyeah, a load of my guildies do that. How they get away with it, I can't imagine.
10:29.19eightballfreekthen again I might be able to persuade my boss to let me bring in my Mac - then I could play it at work. The PCs are awful for gaming.
10:33.30eightballfreekgotta run folks, meeting time... see you later! {:¬)
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10:42.48KriLL3why doesn't the blizzcast rss and itunes thingy include #4?
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12:33.44KriLL3why is atlasloot and atlas both horribly broken atm?  :(
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12:38.54sylvanaarwhat are you guys doing to run the same version of code on live as you do on beta?
12:39.06KriLL3I'm guessing they aren't
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12:39.23sylvanaarI want to stop using 2 branches which differ by 3 lines of code or so
12:39.37sylvanaarI guess I could external all my directories'
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12:44.27CIA-4503adirelle * r80269 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed)
12:44.27CIA-45LibBars-1.0:
12:44.27CIA-45- the bars send new messages :
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12:54.03CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80270 10Prat/ (Prat-3.0.toc addon/addon.lua services/chatsections.lua):
12:54.03CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
12:54.03CIA-45Make the services code on live the same as the code on beta. Link the forum
12:54.03CIA-45thread to the toc.
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13:01.06Elkanowow... my DK jsut hit a lowlevel murdock with deathstrike for 750 and got a 2250 heal from that Oo
13:01.24Ellipsishax.
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13:01.30chexsumunderpowered imo
13:01.37chexsumshould have been 7500
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13:07.46kadrahilneed moar coffee
13:07.59Ellipsis^this
13:11.33Groktarsteals your coffee grounds
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13:15.30Groktartakes off his clothes and dances on the table
13:16.37Ellipsissweet
13:17.12Industrialsweet
13:19.44durcynwhoa, no homo
13:20.31Fisker-Ellipsis my Ellipsis
13:22.16EllipsisFisker-, Fisker- my Fisker-
13:23.10Groktarembeds converge_fu in all Fisker-'s libraries
13:23.27Groktarer, addons
13:24.58Lyn_oO;
13:25.08Ellipsisembeds KTM in Groktar's UI
13:25.30epsla la la LA LA LA LA LA LA la la la LA LA LA LA LA LA la la la LA LA LA LA LA LA la la la LA LA LA LA LA LA la la la LA LA LA LA LA LA
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13:27.01starlongah junk mail stinks when you're hoping for a beta key
13:27.27NivFreakagree
13:27.56Groktarisn't bad enough to get a beta key
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13:28.48Lyn_sweet, barbier in area 52
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13:39.08Lyn_http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/s17.jpg < LOL
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13:39.29Lyn_ah and nice, ingi enchants stack with normal enchants, as it seems
13:40.33CIA-4503nevcairiel * r80271 10AddonLoader/Overrides.lua: AddonLoader: fix the override config in WotLK
13:40.43durcyngief magic carpet screenshots =(
13:40.49Ellipsis^
13:41.18Lyn_in northrend there is a quest with a magic carpet
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13:41.19Lyn_seems like it
13:41.53Ellipsissupposed to be a tailor flying mount like the engineering one
13:41.57Ellipsisdo want :<
13:42.02Lyn_:D
13:42.48EllipsisI wonder...
13:43.14Ellipsiswith the new mount system, does that mean you only need tailoring to *learn* the mount, and can then cast it regardless of whether you drop the profession?
13:43.27Pneumatusgood question
13:43.38Pneumatusthe spell to cast it probably requires tailoring though
13:43.47Ellipsismaybe, but no pix no proof :P
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13:45.14Pneumatusnope, its all speculation till someone actually crafts and learns one
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13:46.24Groktarhttp://guild-impulse.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2990 <- must ginvite this guy NOW
13:47.00nevcairielhaha awesoem dialogue
13:47.05nevcairielin the DK starting zone
13:47.08nevcairielNoth stands there
13:47.20nevcairielhas a chat bubble "Noth, where is Heigan?"
13:47.34Ellipsisyeah, that one was lulzy
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13:48.08nevcairiel"Heigan is probably performing maintenance on his slime and crap filled dance studio."
13:48.09nevcairielftw :)
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13:51.16Megaloni should have taken the boring tundra as first zone, noone told me engi can harvest dead mechanical mobs :x
13:54.46Maldivianevcairiel: hmm, they changed his respond recently then?
13:54.58nevcairielits random
13:55.02Maldiviaahh, ok
13:55.02nevcairieli got 3 different or so
13:55.12MaldiviaI just remember a really angry response
13:55.38kenlyricdid they add mob health to live or to wrath?
13:55.48Maldiviawrath
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14:02.55Sarozis there any way to pull data directly off WOWI SVN?
14:03.09Sarozanon
14:03.13cladhaireyes, check it out.
14:03.26Sarozwhats the URL to it?
14:03.34cladhairedepends on the svn
14:03.40SarozTomTom :p
14:03.57cladhairesvn://svn.wowinterface.com/TomTom-17/trunk
14:04.03Sarozthanks
14:04.47Sarozadded a comment regarding some features requests, didnt know you were on IRC, sorry
14:05.13cladhairenp
14:05.19cladhairewhy would i make aliases for a bunch of other commands?
14:05.34Sarozcause /loc and /tloc is legacy commands from cartographer
14:05.47Saroz/tloc from thottbot's old mod, afaik
14:05.57cladhaireno
14:06.01cladhairethey're legacy from thott
14:06.08cladhairewell TomTom isn't cart
14:06.18cladhairewhat is the command supposed to do?
14:06.24Sarozsame as /way
14:06.33SarozI keep typing /tloc so I thought I'd ask
14:06.41Sarozforce of habbit
14:06.43cladhaireno, i really dont plan to
14:06.50cladhaireits bad enough tomtom and cart conflict as much as they do
14:06.50Sarozok
14:07.02Sarozwhy would you ever run both though
14:09.03Sarozthe x,y would be nice though, since thats how people usually type coords on wowhead :S
14:09.23cladhaireDunno, but people do run them both
14:09.24cladhaireI'll think abiout it
14:09.29cladhaireit wouldn't be difficult
14:09.34cladhairejust not a priority :P
14:09.38cladhairefixed some massive bugs today
14:09.43cladhairedunno how they've gone so long
14:10.25Sarozwhats Astrolabe
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14:10.55cladhairea map library
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14:11.58Matrix110|TomTom WotLK compatible?
14:12.18Matrix110|or because of the new map related crap not?
14:12.24cladhaireit doesn't work in EP
14:12.26cladhaireor Northrend
14:12.28cladhairebut everywhere else, yeah
14:12.47Matrix110|k
14:13.21Matrix110|God they have to change the character Login
14:13.25Matrix110|it doesnt fit to the WoTLK client
14:13.34cladhaireyeah i thought that
14:13.35cladhairehehe
14:13.41Matrix110|Blue Buttons @Login but Red Buttons @Character Screen
14:14.00Matrix110|takes <20mins
14:14.01Ellipsiswait, so imp mana regen got buffed and now dark pact got buffed? is the idea to make life tap obsolete for affliction locks? x.x
14:14.51Matrix110|client resets UI scale all the time ffs
14:14.57Matrix110|I guess i just do it without now
14:15.36Pneumatusthe ui scale bug is to do with the way wow stores its config remotely now
14:15.43Pneumatusfor some reason it doesnt stick sometimes
14:16.10Matrix110|I just resize every Addon then it doesnt matter :D
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14:16.46Ellipsisyou could just set the cvar to store the settings locally
14:16.54Ellipsisthen it should go back to old behavior i.e. not resetting all the time
14:17.01Pneumatusyeh
14:17.06Pneumatusthis ^^
14:23.50binderwhich WAU takes up the less memory, without externals isn't it?
14:24.03binderoption*
14:24.05Ellipsisfacepalms
14:24.07Ellipsisneither one
14:24.38binderoh I was under the impression one was like static libs and one was like dynamic libs
14:24.47Ellipsisone is embedded libs and one is disembedded libs
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14:24.54Ellipsisboth will use the same amount of memory in-game
14:25.01binderoh ok
14:25.02Ellipsisembedded can take *slightly* longer to load
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14:25.11cladhairein theory :P
14:25.21Ellipsiswell, people break stuff all the time
14:25.44binderembeded also prevents you from missing stuff, or should
14:25.55Ellipsissee my previous comment :P
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14:26.06sylvanaarYes but embedded libs cause memory use to be attributed to certain addons
14:26.08bindergotcha
14:26.21sylvanaarI hate that
14:26.25binderwell reported usage and actual usage
14:26.31binderdoesn't bother me
14:26.38CIA-4503adirelle 07oo * r80272 10Yatba/Yatba/Yatba.lua:
14:26.38CIA-45Yatba:
14:26.38CIA-45- now uses its own internal messaging, instead of broadcasting to all addons,
14:26.38CIA-45- added header bars to visually group auras of the same target,
14:26.38CIA-45- now properly sort the bars.
14:26.47sylvanaarI added that info to ACP, so it shows which embeds are active in a particular addon
14:26.57AckisWorksylvanaar: don't you have a canned response set up for when people say your mods are using too much memory?
14:27.19sylvanaarAckisWork no not really
14:27.31Ellipsisit's usually reported for things like autobar or automaton or atlasloot
14:27.36Ellipsisgg starting your addon with A
14:27.53AckisWorkEllipsis: Ackis Recipe List! ahahaha
14:27.55Ellipsis(and using way too many freaking libs...</troll>)
14:28.04binderlol none of the mods I run through WAU eat up memory near as much as like
14:28.12binderauctioneer & advanced tradeskill window
14:28.27Pneumatus'A' addons get the blame because they are first to load the libs, so get the memory overhead attributed to them?
14:28.39Ellipsisyeah Pneumatus
14:28.59Ellipsison the vast majority of filesystems, load order is alphabetical (deps aside)
14:29.03binderif blizz would only build into default UI
14:29.20binderautobar, bartender, cartographer & fubar lol
14:29.23Ellipsisand since most people use automatic updaters, all their lib versions should be the same, so the first one to load gets to stay in memory
14:29.37Pneumatuscurrently using 40 mb, but recount is half of that
14:29.48Ellipsis(why automatic updaters are even allowed to install embedded libs is beyond me...)
14:30.01binderI use a different set of mods based on what I'm doing
14:30.17binderyea blizz needs acp built in too
14:30.23binderstupid you have to log out and log back in
14:30.36binderand can't save sets etc
14:30.39Ellipsisyou can just do /script EnableAddOn(...) and /script DisableAddOn(...)
14:30.40cladhairesure, lets build everything intot he defaul UI
14:30.43cladhairethen we need no addons
14:30.50binderlol
14:30.56cladhairei'm not laughing
14:30.58cladhaireits a narrow minded perspective
14:30.59sylvanaarAckisWork anyways i have been working hard on prat3 to conserve memory
14:31.22Ellipsisthe default UI should be possible to disable/remove completely imo
14:31.26AckisWorksylvanaar: oh I know, what I was talking about was getting library memory usage attributed to your mod
14:31.27binderwell some thinss basically everyone uses
14:31.44binderlike acp, cartographer bartender for example
14:31.46AckisWorkAckis recipe list starts with an A, so I have had a few people ask me why it's using a gazillion megabytes
14:31.47cladhairebinder: in your opinion
14:31.49cladhairei don't use any of the three
14:31.53cladhairenor would I
14:31.53Ellipsisme neitehr
14:31.59Pneumatusi only use cartographer
14:32.00cladhairethanks for proving my point :P
14:32.14sylvanaarwhy dont you like ACP?
14:32.17binderwhat about omen & recount?
14:32.22EllipsisI don't use either of those
14:32.23Fisker-AckisWork
14:32.24Ellipsisshrugs
14:32.28Fisker-why does ARL use so much memory?
14:32.33Ellipsisbinder: you're making assumptions about a lot of people
14:32.34Fisker-learn2optimize n00b
14:32.39AckisWork~lart Fisker-
14:32.39purlsmacks Fisker- up side the head with a clue-by-4
14:32.39EllipsisACP is useless to those who don't even use addons
14:32.45AckisWorkFisker-: I do make them :P
14:32.47Ellipsisrecount, omen are useless to solers
14:32.49Ellipsissoloers*
14:33.02binderI'm just basing it off of my raiding guild, and a lot of raiding guilds i talk to
14:33.03Ellipsisbartender is useless for people like me who don't use action bars
14:33.08thulhttp://i.tombraiderchronicles.com/alisoncarroll_hq_01/screen008.jpg <- Ellipsis comments? :-P
14:33.14Ellipsisraiding guilds are a small chunk of the WoW community
14:33.18Pneumatusbartender is useless for people like me that like the default actionbars
14:33.19thulEllipsis: you got to use action bars :-(
14:33.24cladhaireno you dont
14:33.27Ellipsisthul: I don't, with the exception of my pet bar
14:33.36Ellipsis(which only shows with enslaved pets)
14:33.41thulEllipsis: but you should, if you want to get to the next level.
14:33.45Ellipsis...why?
14:33.49cladhaire...
14:33.50binderI guess you get a narrow perspective of the game when you've been a part of one part of it so long
14:33.55EllipsisI have all my spells directly bound, I don't need to see them to know what they are
14:34.14cladhairebuttons just take up space on my screen
14:34.20cladhairei r teh memory
14:34.23Pneumatusbut in general, i dont use my actionbars at all
14:34.34binderI guess there's like 10 mil people that play the game and I interact with maybe 1000 of them
14:34.37Pneumatusi use Clique, with all my spells bound to click combos
14:34.54Ellipsiswhat do I need buttons for? I have the GCD pretty well figured out in my head, I know my abilities backwards and forwards so the tooltips are unnecessary...
14:34.56KriLL3can you place inscriptions on all chars or only people with the profession?
14:35.19EllipsisKriLL3: everyone can use glyphs
14:35.29KriLL3kk
14:35.53Matrix110|Well there are classes that got skills they use about once a month but still want them on a button if needed (for example slow fall on a mage) but it would be wasted having it binded
14:36.13EllipsisMatrix110|: I have those bound too (e.g. enslave demon, detect invisibility/underwater breathing...)
14:36.18Ellipsisgo go G15 buttons
14:36.19Pneumatusyeh, thats the only thing i use actionbars for
14:36.43Matrix110|And I have my mainskills on the bar incase i need to drink etc. and cant use my one hand :D
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14:36.52EllipsisI used to have those on action bars until I realized that the ones I don't need in combat are just as well placed in my spellbook already...and don't need an addon for that :P
14:37.46Pneumatus90% of stuff i need in combat but isnt bound is on AutoBar
14:38.00Ellipsisdon't get me started on why I hate autobar :P
14:38.46StanzillaEllipsis: why do you hate autobar? *ducks*
14:39.15Ellipsissmacks Stanzilla with a frying pan
14:39.20Stanzilla:<
14:39.25Ellipsisyou earned it :)
14:39.29Pneumatusi like it, it keeps my mounts and consumables organised
14:39.52EllipsisI use my mount way too often to not have it keybound
14:40.06cladhairesame
14:40.07bindermines bound to a
14:40.07cladhaireminei s =
14:40.10Ellipsisand from there it's just a modifier to switch to a ground mount in case I need it in outlands
14:41.07ImAShrubberis it possible in pitbull to click on an enemy target and have his pet show as well in a frame? I cant seem to find that option.
14:41.15Ellipsisnot possible
14:41.33Ellipsisthe only pets that can be done that way are yours and your party/raid's
14:42.35ImAShrubberkk dam, been all over the set up looking for away to do that
14:43.00Ellipsisblame blizzard
14:43.37ImAShrubberhahahah I wanted to focus the hunter and Clique his pet
14:44.35Pneumatusjust kill the hunter tbh
14:44.41orionshockImAShrubber: i'd call that a failure in understanding how targeting works :D
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14:47.03ImAShrubbermulti tasking with my lock, focus+pet and target frames would be nice
14:47.26Ellipsisa lot of things would be nice that blizz won't allow
14:47.31Ellipsisdoesn't make them any less impossible :P
14:47.53AckisWorkthey need to make wow simpler so I can train my cat to play
14:48.12ImAShrubberim lazy i want to pick weeds at the same time
14:48.57Pneumatusmake wow even simpler so a nodding wooden bird can play
14:49.05ImAShrubberyells NI
14:49.40orionshockPneumatus: they did once, there was an addon that could "Queue" up spells for you, all you had to do was click the button :\
14:50.08Pneumatusback when you could cast by script i guess
14:50.09orionshockagain and again and again and again and ....
14:50.31orionshockanyone remember the one called "LazyRouge"?
14:50.34Pneumatusin the days when AutoBuff actually auto-buffed
14:51.17Pneumatusorionshock: with action buttons that would snd/evis depending on mob HP etc?
14:51.34Matrix110|"/castrandom Mount" doesnt seem to work
14:51.34orionshockoh even worse
14:51.47orionshockall u did was spam the "click" button and it thought for you
14:52.02DARKGuyyay.
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14:52.18orionshockanalyzed the mob, HP, ComboPoints, energy, CD's - the works
14:52.30Pneumatusrogues only need 2 buttons these days anyway dont they
14:52.39orionshockSS and Evis?
14:52.45orionshockno wait
14:52.48orionshockSS and Vanish
14:52.55orionshockvanish after pulling aggro
14:52.57Pneumatusss and snd
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14:53.40Pneumatusi dont even know what raiding rogues spec these days tho
14:53.40chexsum+rupture
14:53.55chexsumsubtlety
14:54.31orionshockKaelten: sample picture looks nice for the new site
14:54.39orionshock^^  http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.msg236296;topicseen#msg236296
14:54.41Kaelten:)
14:54.42Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Image:New_wowace_mockup.png
14:54.46Kaeltenalso
14:55.11orionshockwaits with dramatic suspense...
14:55.13Pneumatusneeds moar new logo
14:55.30Kaeltenyep, logo is definately going to get some love
14:55.32Kaeltenjust not sure what love
14:55.34AckisWorkzomg I'm on the mock-up screenie!
14:55.39EllipsisI kinda like that effect with the aces ^-^
14:56.18Matrix110|how can I use the new mounts in wotlk via macro?
14:56.19orionshockmaybe it's just the blur of the pic, but i like the bold rounded edges of the cards IMO like it is now on the site
14:56.45Matrix110|"/castrandom mount" and "/userandom mount" doesnt work :-(
14:56.58orionshockMatrix110|: u on beta or live?
14:57.00durcyni'm not sure how i feel about that font
14:57.02Matrix110|beta
14:57.03EllipsisMatrix110|: did you try the spell names shown on each individual mount?
14:57.09durcynactually, come to think of it, i hate that font.
14:57.12Ellipsisyou can't do /castrandom with one spell
14:57.20Ellipsisand Mount isn't a spell afaik
14:57.22Matrix110|Well i got more than 1 mount :P
14:57.24orionshockMatrix110|: um.. i take it your puttin in the Mount's name in that macro?
14:57.32Ellipsisyes but /castrandom takes multiple arguments
14:57.34Ellipsisyou're only giving it one
14:57.37Ellipsisthus, failure
14:57.40Matrix110|no iam not
14:57.52orionshock?
14:58.02Matrix110|orionshock yes the name shiftclicking it inside
14:58.07orionshockok
14:58.29orionshockit could be due to the API change that the usual macro commands don't recognize the mounts anymore
14:58.49orionshockthat particular api is not protected, so addons do have control now over the mount stuff
14:58.58durcynyou can /cast the mount spellnames.
14:58.59Kaeltendurcyn: ya the big words are getting a lot of negative reaction, but we kinda expected to need to replace it
14:59.04Kaeltenjust not sure with what
14:59.11durcynKaelten: yeah, the rest looks awesome though
14:59.44Matrix110|hmm maybe its the [flyable] that makes it not work
14:59.46KaeltenAckisWork: ya, not sure how that happened ;)
15:00.11AckisWorkhehe
15:00.15EllipsisMatrix110|: you said you were using "/castrandom mount" ...that doesn't contain a [flyable]
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15:00.34Matrix110|well the macro works on Live with /userandom
15:00.36AckisWorkZhinjio just likes to abuse me
15:00.37kenlyricI think it's important that there be 5 aces
15:00.40Matrix110|i just changed it to /castrandom
15:00.43Ellipsisfacepalms harder
15:01.13AckisWorkDARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/ :D
15:01.24durcynAckisWork: http://www.diaf.com/now/
15:01.39AckisWorkhahah
15:01.45Gnarfoz:D
15:01.51durcynoh, is that a valid url?
15:02.04orionshockdurcyn: um.. dude
15:02.06orionshockhttp://www.diaf.com/
15:02.07orionshockis valid
15:02.19orionshock" worlds most renowned and respected suppliers of machinery and plants for the chemical- technical processing industry "
15:02.22durcynyes, i'm aware of that.
15:02.37nevcairielthe /now/ is a 404 though
15:02.41nevcairieland they host on IIS *cry
15:02.49AckisWorkdurcyn is calling me renowned and respected
15:02.49GnarfozKaelten: another voice on the font in the mock-up: urgh! ;> if it's gonna be a "big text" logo, consider some other font ;)
15:03.08Gnarfozapart from that, that looks quite good :>
15:03.27GnarfozAckisWork: he's clearly out of his mind. ;)
15:03.39Matrix110|hmm ok that its really weird
15:03.45orionshockKaelten: try and Old English one that's really heavy in the calligraphy. hehe, that'll get em going :D
15:04.04Gnarfozorionshock: refer to durcyn's link, please :p
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15:08.06orionshocksylvanaar: ping
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15:15.52Zyndromehttp://www.nvidia.com/content/forcewithin/us/index.html
15:15.53Zyndromeoh mai
15:17.29kenlyriclucas lawsuit in 3-2-1
15:18.20orionshocknot really
15:18.53fewynxD
15:18.53orionshockmaybe if he could TM the phrase "The Force" but.. not sure if that would fly
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15:20.28chexsumits intel - theyve probably bought the rights
15:20.53chexsumoops is nvidia intel ? :P
15:20.56Zyndrometime to install drivers + Warmonger
15:22.52Zyndromereboot-tiem
15:23.07Ellipsisuh...astrolabe is broken in wotlk because of more than just the new continent/zones
15:23.35Ellipsison login (not reload) GetMapContinents() returns a 0th zone on northrend whch doesn't exist
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15:25.34Aiican it just be patched to ignore that one?
15:26.12Ellipsisprobably
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15:31.37GnarfozArrowmaster, ag`: nice work on the wotlk branch of ag_uf so far :)
15:32.32Gnarfoz... maek rocket go NAO
15:32.37Gnarfoz~fail EU beta
15:32.38purlEU beta, you Fail!
15:33.08ag`why the fuck can't I log in
15:33.17Gnarfozbecause :(
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15:54.26KriLL3who makes the baldrick addon?
15:55.20Tigerdyrsomeone with a cunning plan? from Cunningham?
15:55.29Aii...
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16:03.00ImAShrubberSooo whats going to be the best item(s) to have stock piled for AH profit when WoLK is released? I assume all professions will now be 450?
16:03.53Lyn_lag again on coldarra?
16:04.46AckisWorkStanzilla: the new GUI code is in ARL, you can test it out if you like :P (/arl display -> test gui, /rl, open profession -> scan)
16:05.12steevImAShrubber: i'd guess NOT potions
16:05.22Stanzillawill do later. need moar timbermaw feathers nau :O
16:05.48sbis there some square minimap with blizz timer support? (click opens that timer thingie)
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16:13.39KriLL3ImAShrubber: I doubt anything will be profitable to keep
16:14.12KriLL3sb: click pings
16:15.29sbKriLL3: not clickin on minimap, clicking on timer attached to your minimap
16:15.49KriLL3oh, dunno
16:15.59KriLL3I use chinchilla and haven't seen anything like that
16:16.38KriLL3you can use /timer though
16:16.46KriLL3can make a macro with /timer and put it on a bar
16:17.52sboh /timer, okay ;)
16:18.18KriLL3you can do stuff like /timer 1:00 also
16:18.22KriLL3to make it one min
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16:28.48CIA-4503Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate * r80278 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
16:28.48CIA-45FuBar_TopScoreFu:
16:28.48CIA-45- small fixe for wotlk because Windfury totems are no more generating damages (cf wowhead wotlk)
16:30.11Matrix110|TopScoreFu is obsolete
16:30.16Matrix110|why update it Oo?
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16:32.49durcynapparently mister/miss LaCroisadeEcarlate doesn't know any better
16:32.53Pneumatusi sill use topscorefu
16:32.57Pneumatus*still
16:33.13durcynPneumatus: 3.0 has all of the tracking built-in to the Achievements UI
16:33.42Pneumatuswhich means its not obsolete until 3.0 :>
16:34.10dafireyou can reset the stuff in the achievements ui ?
16:34.10Pneumatusplus the achievements uI wont be able to differentiate between hits/heals on mobs that are vulnerable
16:34.14Merawas failing to load just here just a small patch to bypass a spell that has been removed
16:34.19Pneumatusand you cant reset it
16:34.19durcynwhich means it doesn't need to be updated for the lk beta.
16:35.09dafireyeah .. getting a 20k hit on a critter will make the achievements ui real great to test different specs and stuff :9
16:35.30KriLL3critters resist my moonfires! >:(
16:35.46Pneumatustopscorefu needs to disregard heals when you have green beam at netherspite
16:36.02Meraachivment panel is ugly anyway like any other blizzard stuffs, fubar is great ;)
16:36.05Pneumatusive got 20k greater heals recorded :<
16:36.25Pneumatusbut yeh, just because some small aspect of topscorefu is in the achievements interface doesnt make it obsolete
16:36.37dafirei usually stand in the green beam with my warrior ;)
16:37.01Pneumatuswe have 2 healers rotate
16:37.31Pneumatususually a priest and shammy, so they mana regen after their turn
16:38.07KriLL3for some reason topscorefu claims my largest crit is a ravage and my largest hit is a ferocious bite
16:38.56Adirelleis anyone (beside me and ulic) more or less using LibBars ?
16:40.05Ellipsiswow, wtf, you have to select the icon for your macro before naming it o.O
16:40.27KriLL3I wish the icon selection thing had tags or names
16:40.33durcynAdirelle: i am
16:40.47KriLL3so you could type in some stuff and more easily find what you're looking fir
16:40.49KriLL3*for
16:41.02KriLL3LK will add even more icons you need to scroll though
16:41.05durcynAdirelle: so is neotron iirc
16:41.15Stanzillaand nev
16:41.56cladhaireanyone have a quick bit of code offhand that tests if an item is soulbound?
16:42.23Adirelledurcyn: how do you handle the issue described here : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14641.0 ?
16:43.43durcynAdirelle: so far, i only allow configuration of width and scale
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16:44.30cncfanaticshmmm, how does one run some code when the user is logging out ?
16:44.35cncfanaticsany event that triggers ?
16:45.26Adirelledurcyn: I see, so I guess you don't have any trouble with font size neither
16:45.40durcynAdirelle: haven't run across it yet, sorry
16:46.23durcynthe places i've used libbars are pretty simplistic too, just treated it as a candybar replacement
16:47.08Adirelledurcyn: very simple to reproduce: put a "range" widget and plug it to bar:SetFont(bar:GetFont(), value) and play with it : the text aren't updated until you hide and show the bar OR you change le fontName
16:48.05dafirehttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/?search=email
16:48.09dafire= internal server error
16:48.41dafirewrong channel .9
16:48.49Stanzilla~fail dafire
16:48.50purldafire, you Fail!
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16:53.46dafireI wanted to unlearn tailoring for inscription..
16:53.46dafire.9
16:53.52dafire~weather eddv
16:55.52Fisker-you too dafire ?
16:56.00Fisker-Stupid magic carpet and cloak enchants
16:57.26dafirei wonder how long the invisible cooldown on the enchant will be
16:57.38Gnarfozwtf is 'eddv' and why does it point to where I live
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16:58.05dafireeddv is the code of hannover weather station and it's where i live, not you
16:58.22Gnarfozyou live in a weather station?
16:58.22Gnarfoz:P
16:58.31dafire~fail Gnarfoz
16:58.32purlYou suck at everything in life, Gnarfoz. I hate you because you fail.
16:58.32Gnarfozand yes, I do live in H-town, too ;)
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16:59.36Fisker-dafire i'm guessing the same as the meta gem
16:59.53dafirewhat is it ? 40 seconds or something like that?
17:00.03dafirei thought maybe the same like the mt trinket
17:00.48Fisker-http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25901 <-well i believe that one doesn't have an internal cooldown at all
17:00.56Fisker-atleast i've seen it proc on itself as well
17:01.03Fisker-which is always fun
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17:01.39dafirei don't think you will have a chance of 1000 damage on every damage you do .9
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17:02.32Fisker-anyways
17:02.35Fisker-magic carpet = drool
17:02.52KriLL3engineers can make a sweet motorcycle with a sidecart
17:03.17KriLL3too bad the guy riding shotgun doesn't have a minigun
17:03.35dafirek i go home now .9
17:03.56Zyndrome18:52.51 ( KriLL3 ) engineers can make a sweet motorcycle with a sidecart
17:04.02ZyndromeI would like to see a confirmation on that
17:04.12KriLL3you're kidding right?
17:04.27Neo|HomeThank goodness: Jewelcrafting
17:04.28Neo|Home* The amount of recipes obtained through world drop will be reduced greatly.
17:04.37Ellipsis=[
17:04.40Neo|Homethere are A LOT more recipies. glad all of them aren't random world drops...
17:04.42Ellipsisworld drops are awesome though
17:04.43Zyndromegetting both yes & no from all directions
17:04.57Neo|HomeEllipsis: compared to rep vendors and stuff? no way.
17:05.18KriLL3http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=55531 http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3087/wotlkc4qx6.jpg
17:05.22AckisWorkno, new recipes = BAD
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17:05.44EllipsisNeo|Home: rather buy the recipe directly than farm the rep
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17:06.23EllipsisI like their profession token vendors idea though
17:08.30CIA-4503ackis * r80279 10TIRaid/: TIRaid: no longer in use so bye bye miss american pie
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17:09.41Neo|Homeyou must be very rick
17:09.46CIA-4503profalbert * r80280 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua:
17:09.46CIA-45Parrot:
17:09.46CIA-45fix issues with nil-damagetypes (reported to Happen on sunwell protector
17:09.47CIA-45trash )
17:09.51Neo|HomeI'd assume each gem design to go for about 10000 gold
17:09.53Neo|Homeerr
17:09.55Neo|Home1000 gold
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17:10.06Neo|Homeand we have probably 150 recipies? I know I don't have 150000 gold
17:10.59nevcairielWhat, you dont?
17:11.02Ellipsis150 world drop recipes?
17:11.12Ellipsisall of which are an average of 1k each?
17:11.14EllipsisI doubt that
17:11.21Neo|Homeif the world drop rate remained
17:11.25nevcairielthere are alot of common recipes that go for 100 or so
17:11.28NivFreakit's not nearly as bad as enchanting
17:11.28nevcairielalways been
17:11.31Neo|Homeahaha
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17:11.37Neo|Homeeven the worse recipies go for like 250g today
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17:11.45Neo|Homedoubling the price in wotlk would be very likely
17:11.48nevcairielyour servers economy is evil
17:11.55Neo|Homepopular recipies go for 600g+
17:11.58EllipsisI can't imagine 250g for the crappy ones
17:11.58NivFreakenchanting is insane, you can't find a world drop pattern for under 2000G on my server
17:12.15Neo|HomeI don't think I've seen any gem design for much less than that
17:12.18AckisWorkonly drops I'm missing are the gay bop ones they added
17:12.18Aiiotoh at least enchanting has a fair number of bop patterns
17:12.20Ellipsisenchanting does kinda suck yeah
17:12.32Ellipsisbut there's so few important boe world drops that it's ok
17:12.32Neo|Homepoint being, rep/vendor recipies are a lot better forthe purse
17:12.44Aiitru dat
17:12.44Neo|Homeand given there are typically ones you want more you can work towards getting specific ones
17:12.51NivFreakI have a 375 JC and Enchanter, both of them lack a good number of the world drop patterns
17:12.53Arrowmasterlooking for us horde raiding guild in sunwell (pvp server prefered)
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17:12.58EllipsisNeo|Home: meh, you farm rep instead of farming gold...the only difference is you can have the gold stocked up from other sources
17:12.59Neo|Homeand BoP world frops from specific areas are a lot better too
17:13.09Primerfuck enchanting, let's talk about how much arena sucks since S4
17:13.13NivFreakArrowmaster: I have illidan left, but soon ;)
17:13.19Neo|HomeI'm sure we'll have enough world drops to satisfy that issue
17:13.34Neo|Homefarm rep => make money while farming rep, farm gold => make money to spend
17:13.37AckisWorkArrowmaster: join my guild we can 3 man ZG!
17:13.49EllipsisI actually really enjoyed the zone drop enchanting recipes
17:13.52Neo|Homeand often farm rep => run instance which, you know, tend to be fun for a while
17:13.59PrimerI've been having one hell of a time trying to get any of my team's rating up
17:14.04Ellipsisfarming for spell power, resist to cloak, etc. was one of the best times I had in tbc
17:14.07Arrowmasteri think my rogue friend is going to transfer to cho'gall
17:14.08Neo|Homeyeah
17:14.10Neo|HomeI like those
17:14.18nevcairielzone or mob-specific drops are fine
17:14.21nevcairielbut general word drops
17:14.25nevcairieli dun like
17:14.25Neo|HomeBoP drops are fine. that 90% of all blue gems were random BoE worl drops sucked
17:14.37Neo|Homesome are fine of course but not most
17:14.43EllipsisNeo|Home: and yet every time I found one they sold for like 50g
17:14.47AckisWorkbop drops are annoying as hell, especially dungeon ones
17:14.58Neo|Homeyou must have a really low pop server
17:15.06Ellipsisthe dungeon ones can go to hell >_>
17:15.11Neo|HomeJc patterns always go at 200-250g to 600g+
17:15.13EllipsisNeo|Home: um no actually very high
17:15.21Neo|Homeon Kilrogg/US
17:15.25Aiion a side note
17:15.31AiiI dont mind farming enchanting formulas
17:15.32Neo|Homeand that's now - it was of course A LOT more expensive early on
17:15.41Aiibut the shared-spawn mobs are freaking retarded
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17:15.53Ellipsisbashir ftw
17:15.54Ellipsis:D
17:16.08Aiii still dont have spellpower to bracers
17:16.12Ellipsishaha
17:16.16Neo|HomeAii: ones where you have like 3 mob spawns total suck
17:16.20Aiibecause i dont feel like killing 10 mobs for 1 chance at a mob that drops it
17:16.21Ellipsisit took me like 3 kills, that was one of my luckiest farms
17:16.43Neo|HomeI farmed for the shadow dmg .. err ring I think? or necklace
17:16.47Neo|Homein Shadowmoon valley
17:16.53Neo|Homefarming those undead skettis to the north
17:17.05Neo|HomeI did like 5-6 farming sessions equalling about as many hours
17:18.35fewynYou recieve item: [Vengeful Gladiator's Waraxe].
17:18.36fewynhot
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17:20.31charonbaosting fail ;)
17:21.08Aiigrats on your cheapo stat stick
17:21.29CIA-4503endeavour * r80281 10Endeavours_BuffMod/ (BuffBar.lua Core.lua Endeavours_BuffMod.toc Options.lua):
17:21.29CIA-45Endeavours_BuffMod:
17:21.29CIA-45- more options added, minor fixes
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17:21.52fewyni know, it was a pain getting someone to 2v2 with me every week
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17:24.21CIA-4503profalbert * r80282 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua:
17:24.21CIA-45Parrot:
17:24.21CIA-45- stop petheals from showing up multiple times
17:24.21CIA-45- fix category for "Pet heal over time"
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17:28.28PrimerAnyone else have a theory as to why so many well-geared, experienced players, are still in the lower brackets this far into the arena season?
17:28.39KriLL3they suck
17:28.56PrimerMy theory is that points selling was never "fixed", but in fact made worse
17:28.59afKulaararena sucks?
17:28.59[Endeavour]they found out there is something called rl :)
17:29.01KriLL3or they re-formed the team for some reason
17:29.16KriLL3Primer: ?
17:29.27PrimerI have a feeling there are teams out there selling low amounts of points with new teams every week
17:29.54Primer"Carrying you to 1650 (enough to get rings) for 1000g. BYOT"
17:30.15Primer"Carrying you to 1700 (enough to get boots) for 1500g. BYOT"
17:30.50Primerso there's a ton of good, well-geared players, in a new team, every week/day
17:31.10KriLL3I'd like to do something like that
17:31.30KriLL3I'm feral, can't get high rating by myself
17:31.40Aiiimo they need to put a week's cooldown on swapping teams at the bare minimum
17:31.40PrimerI'm just frustrated that I can't get any of my toons (SL/SL lock, 476 resil, good gear, decent player) above 1600
17:31.49Primeraii: yes, that would help a LOT
17:31.50Aiiif not 2 weeks
17:32.13Primermy other toon is a Disc priest, 414 resil, 1827 heals
17:32.34PrimerI've been able to get close to 1650 with a warrior
17:32.44Primeron said priest
17:32.56|Yssaril|is there any problem with using a table as a table reference? ie a = {...}; b={...}; b[a] = 2;
17:33.01Primerbut have yet to break 1600 on my lock. Granted, I've only gone with a paly and a priest
17:33.13Ellipsisnope
17:33.16AiiI've been bouncing around 1600-1650 for a few weeks now
17:33.21Ellipsisanything can be an index
17:33.26|Yssaril|woot
17:33.29Ellipsiswell, other than nil of course :P
17:33.32Aiibut we keep running into warrior/druid and getting RNG'd whenever we seem to be making progress
17:33.43PrimerAii: I noticed that last season the "cutoff", where you'd start running into really good teams, was around 1650
17:33.45|Yssaril|Ellipsis: can a function be a index?
17:33.49Primerthis season it seems it's around 1550
17:33.56Ellipsisafaik yes
17:34.11Aiia function is just a reference stored in a variable
17:34.17Aiiso you can use that reference as a key
17:34.27Ellipsislua> f = function() end; a = { f = true }; print(a[f])
17:34.28lua_botEllipsis: nil
17:34.40Ellipsislua> f = function() end; a = { [f] = true }; print(a[f])
17:34.40lua_botEllipsis: true
17:34.41KriLL3I love being geared in S2 and meeting S3 or partial S4 teams
17:34.48EllipsisI know lua, I swear >_>
17:34.52Aiilol Ellipsis
17:34.54|Yssaril|lol
17:35.20EllipsisI've been coding in it all day and I still fail at basic table syntax... /me chugs moar caffeine
17:35.25Shirik|Yssaril|, only nil and nans cannot be indexes
17:35.34Shirikand you can still "get" the value of them, but can't store them
17:36.04Aiiwhatcha been working on Ellipsis ?
17:36.07Shiriklua> t = setmetatable({}, {__index = function() return true; end}); return t[0/0], t[nil];
17:36.07lua_botShirik: true, true
17:36.20EllipsisAii: a little of everything, trying to get my UI set up for wrath :P
17:36.26Aiiah
17:36.52Shiriklua> function test1() t = {}; t[0/0] = 0; end function test2() t = {}; t[nil] = 0; end local s, e = pcall(test1); local s, f = pcall(test2); return e,f;
17:36.52lua_botShirik: luabot:1: table index is NaN, luabot:1: table index is nil
17:36.59jaxdahl2bar mods are going to need a lot of work still, it seems
17:37.53Ellipsisfortunately I don't need one
17:37.53|Yssaril|jaxdahl: yea they are changing all the secure template stuff again
17:37.57Ellipsisbut dot timers... /sigh
17:37.59jaxdahl2not only that
17:38.16jaxdahl2there's a bunch of stuff that changes your default bar
17:38.22jaxdahl2and stance bar
17:38.31jaxdahl2bt4 doesn't seem to pick up on that yet
17:39.32AiiEllipsis: anything dealing with auras seems to be screwy atm
17:39.41Ellipsisexactly :(
17:40.01Aiiaguf's aura display works, but the durations dont appear to show atm :x
17:41.04Pneumatusdurations dont show on the default interface sometimes
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17:45.25nevcairieljaxdahl2: all the default bar changing _should_ be working, the new buttons above the stance bar however will not display right now, i'm still trying to figure out how to deal with them
17:45.30aestilwill there be a Mac client for the future 'cursegaming updater'?
17:45.38CIA-4503neotron * r80283 10ButtonBin/ButtonBin.lua:
17:45.38CIA-45ButtonBin:
17:45.38CIA-45- Fixed sizing of button frames (hpadding = 0 now works as expected).
17:45.39CIA-45- Fixed profile switching again.
17:45.39CIA-45- Added option to hide the Button Bin icon (if you do, you need to manually go to the config UI to unlock etc)
17:49.42Dashkalaestil: They're working on one
17:50.08KriLL3the current curse updater is rubbish imo
17:50.26KriLL3it takes ages to scan your addons, crashes then makes your addon folder read only and installs old addons
17:51.55DARKGuyyup :D
17:51.59DARKGuythat's why I love JWU
17:52.02Ellipsissounds awesome
17:52.10Neo|Homefuture is bring?
17:52.11KriLL3I like WAU
17:52.21DARKGuyWAU is good, but I didn't like its slowness
17:52.34Primeror how it crashes the .net runtime
17:52.40DARKGuyhaha
17:52.45KriLL3doesn't for me
17:52.52DARKGuyneither it has for me
17:52.54KriLL3and it's quite zippy
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17:54.04Primerit crashed the .net runtime all the time here
17:54.09Primerwhich is why I switched to JWU
17:54.37DARKGuyJWU is da shiz :D
17:54.44DARKGuyit's sleek, fast, and works multiplatform :D
17:54.54KriLL3java, eww
17:55.09DARKGuyeh, it's faster than the .NET version of WAU
17:55.40KriLL3WAU is zippy for me, opens in 1-2 seconds updates in 4-5, done
17:56.08Funkeh`lua> string.format("%02x%02x%02x", 255, 0.96*255, 0.41*255)
17:56.08lua_botFunkeh`: fff468
17:56.45Zyndromehex!
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17:58.19DARKGuyKriLL3, you must have a very fast internet connection then
17:58.35KriLL324Mbit, why?
17:58.56DARKGuyThat's why :P
17:59.02DARKGuyI have 1024kbps
17:59.16KriLL3ouch
17:59.18DARKGuyI gotta wait for it to download the addon xml list while it hangs the whole GUI :P
17:59.41DARKGuyyeah :(
18:00.11cncfanaticsdamn, why do people still bother to scramble video dvd's using css ?
18:00.16cncfanaticsits just an anoyance these days
18:00.24KriLL3huh?
18:00.36nevcairielits not even an anoyance anymore
18:00.41nevcairielyou can decode them on the fly 0P
18:00.48cncfanaticsjust need to install libdvdcss :p
18:01.54Primercncfanatics: they also add checksum errors onto the media now
18:02.05cncfanaticsPrimer: not like it helps
18:02.08Primerwhich cause _some_ computers to retry indefinitely
18:02.26PrimerI noticed recently that Linux seems to not do this any more
18:02.28cncfanaticswouldn't that actualy cause more issues on tv dvd readers ?
18:02.51PrimerI played a DVD on my laptop in Linux that someone's windows media center wasn't able to play
18:02.57Primerand my log showed the errors
18:03.11Primerbut apparently it just happily skipped over them
18:03.38Primerin the past, the driver would just keep trying and never give up
18:04.03Primercncfanatics: well, anything that was using a 'computer' to read them would supposedly retry indefinitely
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18:04.16Primerwhereas a 'hardware' dvd player would skip the errors
18:04.27cncfanaticsyea, that probably lasted a day or so :p
18:04.30KriLL3can't you set VLC to ignore errors like that?
18:04.35cncfanaticsuntil software dvd readers ignored them too
18:04.39PrimerKriLL3: it's a driver level thing though
18:04.50cncfanaticshmm, it can't read the IFO file now
18:05.15Primerbut yeah, you have just read the media with a userspace app and ignore the errors
18:05.22Primers/have//
18:06.24cncfanaticsthis is weird
18:06.24PrimerYou know what armory needs? Itemrack
18:06.30cncfanaticswith libdvdcss installed it can't read the IFO file
18:06.42cncfanaticswithout it installed it can read it but (of course) fails to decrypt
18:06.45Primerthat's where they usually put the errors
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18:06.55Primerwhat app?
18:07.16cncfanaticsmplayer
18:07.17PrimerI use xine to play dvds
18:07.34cncfanaticssame error prolly
18:07.40cncfanaticsif mplayer can't read it, most other apps won't either
18:07.49cog|workcan anyone recommend a library for timer bars?
18:07.56Primerwhat distro?
18:08.28cncfanaticsdebian
18:09.00Primerheh
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18:09.03Primerhow old?
18:09.12nevcairielcog|work: LibBars-1.0
18:09.13cncfanaticsjust updated
18:09.15cncfanaticsI'm on unstable
18:09.15PrimerI know that's a relative question with debian...
18:09.18cncfanaticsmplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory might be related
18:09.27cncfanaticswth is happening
18:09.34cncfanaticsit doesn't give those without libdvdcss
18:09.35Primerwhat preceded that? probably lack of lirc
18:10.01cog|worknevcairiel: ty
18:10.03cncfanaticslack of LIRC is actualy just after those errors
18:10.11cncfanaticsthe regular messages precede it
18:10.16cncfanaticswhat its been compiled with etc
18:10.37cncfanaticshttp://www.pastey.net/93616
18:10.55Primeryeah, that's just the normal lirc error
18:10.55cncfanaticsI don't get those errors without libcss2
18:11.01Primerthe socket crap
18:11.13cncfanaticsI don't get that either without libdvdcss
18:11.14Primerdo you get errors in dmesg?
18:11.19cncfanaticsdoes it need special permission for something
18:11.20cncfanaticslemme check
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18:11.48PrimerI think mplayer also uses /dev/dvd as the device by default
18:11.49cncfanaticshttp://www.pastey.net/93617
18:12.00cncfanaticsseems there is something very wrong
18:12.04PrimerI'm guessing it's got the wrong device
18:12.31cncfanaticsnope, I'm on an scsi drive
18:12.41cncfanaticsso hda is my cdrom
18:12.41Primermplayer -dvd-device=/dev/sr0
18:13.03Primerpresuming your dvd reader is now a scsi device (which it should be on a modern distro)
18:13.15Primer</debian not being a modern distro disclaimer>
18:13.31nevcairielwho uses debian as a workstation distro anyway
18:13.35nevcairielget ubuntu
18:13.37Primeractually, I think you don't need the =
18:13.39nevcairielor something totally different
18:13.44Primermplayer -dvd-device /dev/sr0
18:13.52Primermplayer -dvd-device /dev/hda
18:13.54cncfanaticswhy bother with ubuntu when debian serves me totaly fine ?
18:14.05Primerseems it's not
18:14.05nevcairielobviously you fail at playing dvds
18:14.06nevcairiel:)
18:14.12cncfanaticsworked in the post
18:14.16cncfanaticss/post/past/
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18:14.36cncfanaticssr0 doesn't exist for me so :p
18:14.48cncfanaticsand /dev/cdrom correctly points to hda
18:15.05Primerjust specify the device
18:15.12Primerand see if you make it farther
18:15.14cncfanaticssame error when doing hda
18:15.21Primermount it
18:15.24cncfanaticsit is ofc
18:15.31cncfanaticsnotice how it detects the number of chapters & stuff
18:15.37CIA-4503Allara 07WotLK * r80284 10HitsMode/ (Changes.txt HitsMode.lua): HitsMode: Fixed some energize outputs; now ignores DPS > 5000
18:16.13Primerbut yeah, those errors in dmesg are the type you'd see from crc errors being placed onto the media on purpose
18:16.23cncfanaticsand it plays without libdvdcss2 but fails on descrambing it
18:16.39jaxdahl2is there an option to ignore errors?
18:16.42Primerwhat movie is this?
18:16.50cncfanaticspirates of the caribean 1 :p
18:17.00cncfanaticsit has no special fancy protection afaik
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18:17.39cncfanaticsmight just want to set the region code on my dvd player ?
18:17.44cncfanaticsif that could be related
18:18.15jaxdahl2R1 ?
18:18.32Primerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARccOS_Protection
18:18.42Primeris what it reportedly has
18:19.04DARKGuySo much protections around the media... it's all useless, pointless "protection". So restricted.
18:19.38cncfanaticshmmm
18:19.44cncfanaticswould having a regionless dvd player cause this issue ?
18:19.50cncfanaticseven with mplayer, it might need a region set
18:19.53CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80285 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: bugfixes
18:20.05PrimerI doubt it
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18:21.32cncfanaticslemme try
18:21.46erikhlibdvdcss2 doesn't need region codes IIRC
18:22.08erikhbut you'll need a repo with the proper build of it, like medibuntu
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18:22.16cncfanaticsI got mine from videolan
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18:22.40erikhyeah, not sure
18:23.04erikhi just know there are two versions of it
18:23.06cncfanaticsI'll get the medibuntu ones
18:23.16erikhone that rips my copies of LoTR without freaking out
18:23.18erikhand one that does
18:23.22cncfanaticshaha
18:23.37erikhi have a mythbuntu box in the living room
18:23.53erikhbest use of time and money ever.
18:24.46cncfanaticsoh wait
18:24.48cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
18:24.54cncfanaticssudo apt-get install w32codecs
18:25.08Primerwhat's only for wmv
18:25.15Primerdoes nothing for dvd playback
18:25.49cncfanaticswill get em just in case
18:26.37cncfanaticsmedibuntu repos is down
18:26.38cncfanaticsanoying
18:26.56Pneumatuscan someone remind me of a name of one of the million speedy-handin addons?
18:27.07Aiisickofclickingdailies?
18:27.08Pneumatusive got a few hundred marks of sargeras to hand in :<
18:27.11Aiioh
18:27.15Aiinot that then :P
18:27.19jaxdahl2i never found one to turn those in
18:27.31nevcairieldidnt automaton or so do that?
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18:28.21cncfanaticsmmm, still the same with the one from medibuntu
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18:28.51Pneumatuslooks like it does nevcairiel, thanks
18:29.10steevheh
18:29.18Pneumatusi defiantly see some blocks with aldor/scryer handins in the gossip module
18:29.18nevcairielman i remember way too much shit
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18:33.36PrimerAnyone know of an irc channel/network devoted to wow arena?
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18:33.53kenlyricbg9 has a channel
18:33.55kenlyricenjoy
18:34.19Aiiohshi...
18:34.33Primerbg9 == ?
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18:37.05Lyn_meh ma muh
18:38.15Primerit feels so odd ssh'ing to my windows box...
18:39.43Zyndromeyou feel dirty
18:40.46CIA-4503barfolomeu * r80286 10/branches/FlightHUD/FlightHUD.lua: Collaborate with myself
18:41.06Primerwish there was a way to suppress specific commits from CIA
18:41.23Primersvn commit -m "NOCIA: Collaborate with myself"
18:41.30AckisWorkfilter anything with dry-coded ? lol
18:41.35Primereh?
18:41.38Primerthat's branches
18:41.46PrimerI do that to code from 2 separate places
18:42.07PrimerI don't get what you mean
18:42.08odt!points 558
18:42.09Xinhuan558 arena points require 1667(5s), 1718(3s) and 1783(2s) team rating.
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18:49.51tisphieI've sent mail to wowace-svn-requests at 7/27, but no repsonse yet. Anybody can help me?
18:50.31JerleMinarabah i could've gotten my damn blizzcon tickets yesterday but evidently amex blocked the charge
18:50.36Lukianshould be done in a week or two then, tisphie XD
18:51.26tisphieSo, I should wait some more time?
18:51.27cncfanaticstisphie: your best bet would be to ping Kaelten about that
18:51.34nevcairielor Funkeh`
18:51.38tisphieok.
18:51.40tisphieFunkeh`: ping
18:51.54Kaeltenping Funkeh`
18:51.59KaeltenFunkeh`: takes care of that for me
18:52.14KaeltenI wonder if Funkeh` keeps getting pinged
18:52.23Funkeh`yes he does
18:52.24Ellipsiswe should ping Funkeh` moar
18:52.30DashkalHello, Funkeh` :)
18:52.38KaeltenHow are you Funkeh`
18:52.43tisphieHello
18:52.43Funkeh`anger levels rising
18:52.45Lyn_funkeh :o
18:52.49Ellipsisaww, poor Funkeh`
18:53.40Funkeh`profalbert, why did you dcc chat me
18:53.40cncfanaticsrofl, poor funkeh
18:54.01Lyn_he wanna go private with you :x
18:54.08profalbertFunkeh`: hu?
18:54.30Funkeh`I have a dcc chat invite request from you
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18:54.52tisphieFunkeh`: Can you check my svn-request email?
18:55.19profalbertFunkeh`: hmm... strange
18:55.39Funkeh`If it was july it's already been replied and most likely in your junk
18:55.51tisphieoops.
18:56.02Funkeh`or you didn't provide sufficient information in which case you would get a reply also
18:56.11tisphieWhat's sender's email?
18:56.25Funkeh`it's a groups email
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18:56.51tisphieso it's wowace-svn-requests@
18:57.07CIA-4503Allara 07WotLK * r80287 10HitsMode/ (4 files in 2 dirs): HitsMode: - Knowledge base updates; removed chat frame resize feature
18:57.41ZhinjioGood afternoon, worthies.
18:57.51Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
18:58.17Ellipsislicks Zhinjio
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19:01.18tisphieWell, I resend request mail.
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19:06.41Obelixprimeis there a good dps measure for wotlk?
19:06.52Obelixprimea la swstatsish?
19:07.08Obelixprimei think i remember seeing violation working in wotlk
19:08.09HjalteRecount works
19:08.33Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat110.html
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19:09.19Obelixprimeoooh
19:09.20Obelixprimenice
19:09.22Obelixprimethanks cairenn
19:09.32Cairennyou're welcome :)
19:10.09Primercladhaire: "Fixed a bug that cause new waypoints to not respect the Enable World and Enable Minimap options" don't suppose that has anything to do with what I reported a while back regarding the point not showing up when cart 2 is installed?
19:11.36cladhairePrimer: probably not
19:11.38cladhairebut its worth a try
19:11.41cladhairewho knows what it fixes :P
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19:17.25syerenCurse is such a piece of shit site.
19:17.43syerenzzzzzzzzzzz
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19:22.53CIA-4503funkydude * r80288 10Broker_Mail/Broker_Mail.lua: Broker_Mail: Cleanups, add tooltip
19:29.29ckknightsyeren: k
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19:29.48syerenLike you used or cared about it before you was on the payroll ;p
19:30.02ckknightsyeren: no, I thought it was shit before, I think it's shit now.
19:30.11ckknightmy only consolation is that it's being replaced soon
19:31.16Saroz"soon"
19:31.55ckknightyea, actually things are on schedule
19:34.57GnarfozFunkeh`: does broker_mail use the "new" mail api?
19:35.17Funkeh`yes
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19:35.34Gnarfozsweet
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19:37.51kenlyricsigh
19:38.05kenlyricone of these days soon bulkmail is going to die, and I'm going to *sad*
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19:38.35nevcairielthere is a new mail api?
19:39.23Funkeh`"new"
19:39.37Funkeh`I think it was 2.3
19:39.49Ellipsisthe mail notification change?
19:40.17Funkeh`hmm?
19:40.26Funkeh`the mouseover to see mail
19:40.36KriLL3you can only have one well fed effect at a time correct?
19:40.38Gnarfozyeah, that.
19:40.47Lyn_mh..
19:40.48Zhinjiocookie dough and Dew! Breakfast of champeeeeeeens
19:41.26CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80289 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: stuff still expects coreEvents to be a table
19:42.55Gnarfozag`: is that a fix, or a breaking change right there?
19:43.16Gnarfozi.e. "still" = oops, forgot something or "still" = ok, I'm changing this, other stuff needs to still be updated
19:43.34ag`it doesn't break anything
19:43.46ag`it might unbreak something
19:43.57Gnarfozk
19:44.21nevcairielI did fix the coreEvents thingy earlier today <.<
19:45.12KriLL3anyone got a good weapon leveling up mob they can recommend?
19:45.17nevcairielmy solution did work, btw :)
19:45.22nevcairielyou just moved it around
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19:45.37ag`nevcairiel, I was thinking that some stuff might expect it to be a table
19:45.43KriLL3deckchairs and titanic comes to mind... ;)
19:45.44nevcairielit was
19:45.48ag`it was?
19:45.55nevcairieli just forward declared the var at the top of the file
19:46.02nevcairieland the actual value was set downwards
19:46.04nevcairielbut doesnt matter
19:46.58Gnarfozprobably local coreEvents = {} would have been the middle ground ^^
19:47.13KriLL3anyone know of a mob that hits really lightly and got a lot of hp?
19:47.23ag`nah, nevcairiel is right, it isn't needed, it is set later down before anything happens
19:47.47nevcairielthe problem before was that you only declaerd coreEvents down there
19:47.53ag`yeah
19:47.54nevcairieland some function before tried to use it as a upvalue
19:47.56nevcairielbut didnt know it yet
19:48.05nevcairielso i moved the local declaration to the top
19:48.08nevcairielkeeping the table down
19:48.11nevcairielbut its all the same :)
19:48.25ag`yeah, I know why, and I'm reverting the change I just did
19:48.32CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80290 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: revert
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19:54.04Arrowmasterag`: by any chance are you going to have the Ace3-WotLK branch actually make the frames sometime before OnEnable (which the Ace2 version does)?
19:54.42ag`don't think they should create them before the addon is enabled, should it?
19:54.46ag`what do you need the frames for so early?
19:54.49Arrowmasterive had nothing but trouble trying to make Deadened work with the Ace2 version
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19:55.20AckisWorkhttp://forums.wowkon.com/rush-hour/137-official-blacklist.html
19:55.32ag`there's a module API, you can use that with great advantage
19:55.40AckisWorkerrr wrong channel
19:55.44AckisWork~lart AckisWork
19:55.44purltakes out a cattle prod and gives AckisWork a good jolt
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19:55.54dafirehi
19:56.09dafirecan someone tell me if ShowUIPanel(panel) does something different then panel:Show() ?
19:56.17Arrowmasterhmm we need to update the wiki page on loading order to include PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED for if you login in combat
19:56.28Arrowmasterdafire: it does afaik
19:57.14dafirehmm.. but what ? :)
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19:58.24Arrowmasteri think iriel told me you could use it to open the spellbook without tainting it
19:58.53dafireah.. its in http://wowcompares.com/2438606/FrameXML/UIParent.lua
20:09.52nevetswas wondering if anyone here can help me with some troubleshooting with some ace2 addons x.x
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20:12.35Dashkal~asktoask
20:12.35purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
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20:14.00dafiremore or less :9
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20:14.26nevetswell i used wau this morning and it updeted a few mods now bartender3/cryolisys2/fubar isnt working
20:14.29dafireTekkub, i never tried that pull thing i hope i did it right .)
20:15.19Ellipsisnevets: are you getting errors?
20:15.31nevetsyea ingame some frame error was constant
20:15.59nevetslet me login and specify the error
20:16.08Lyn_http://gizmodo.com/5035456/blue-screen-of-death-strikes-birds-nest-during-opening-ceremonies-torch-lighting olympia fail
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20:17.26ag`STOP THROWING ME OFF CRAP SERVER
20:17.35ag`sorry
20:17.51Tekkubdafire, mmmm... pull requests....
20:18.31nevetsinterace\framexml\gametime.lua.86:attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value) is the error im getting ellipsis
20:18.48dafireTekkub, just a small thing wanted to try that out :9
20:19.06Xuerianag`: Lol, live or beta?
20:19.16ag`beta of course
20:19.39ag`they invited too many ghoul spamming dummies
20:19.51Adirellequestion to windows users: what text editor are you using to edit your lua files and why ?
20:20.01nevcairielNotepad++, thats why!
20:20.10Tekkubscite
20:20.31Adirelle<= ultraedit, but I found it a bit bloaty
20:20.41nevcairieli used ultraedit before
20:20.45dafirei'd suggest scite
20:20.48nevcairielbut it isnt free, and it indeed is bloaty
20:20.50dafireI use komodo though
20:20.57Adirelleand gvim is too rough to use for other things than casual editing
20:21.22ag`I use scite
20:21.39nevcairielthe scite UI feels so "old" for me, somehow
20:21.40nevcairieli dunno
20:21.47dafirei use komodo at work and at home.. to debug perl and python scripts with the included debugger.. it uses scintilla.. the scite engine
20:21.49nevcairielNotepad++ is scintilla too, so *shrug
20:22.33ag`nevcairiel, what you feel is the crappy toolkit used to make scite
20:23.01Aiii use scite, works for me
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20:23.16Aiiif i wanted to feel "old" id use vim :P
20:24.34dafirevim is great for remote editing .9
20:24.57XuerianAdirelle: Ultraedit.
20:25.06Aiii use vim plenty... just not for lua :P
20:26.43dieck_Our guild has it's first go on Supremus. Bosskillers: "A massive melee damage ability done to the highest HP target with significant threat.". Can anyone specify "significant"?
20:27.02Adirelledamn, the way the notepad++ site makes me sick, that vertical scrollbar pisses me off
20:27.12Gnarfozthe site totally doesn't work for me
20:27.35Gnarfozfunny thing is: even allowing js via noscript doesn't fix it :D
20:28.20GnarfozAdirelle: pspad :)
20:28.24Drooliore notepad++ - is everyone using the latest version and installing the seperate .dll for the function list thingy?
20:28.38nevcairielthe function list thingy keeps bugging out on me
20:28.41Droolioand does it work ok. coz there's supposedly a memory leak
20:28.43nevcairielso i just remove it
20:28.46Droolio:/
20:28.52XuerianDroolio: You can get a function list in ++?
20:28.59XuerianMissed that from UE..
20:29.01nevcairielapparently the dev gave up on the plugin
20:29.09nevcairielthe 2.0 version was never finished
20:29.13Xuerianbleh
20:29.19Xuerian++ is still nice, I use it for all my php/html
20:29.25nevcairielthe 1.x version works so/so
20:29.31nevcairielnot so good on lua, misses alot of functions
20:29.36nevcairielunless you edit the regex =P
20:29.46nevcairieldoesnt play well with "local function xxx()"
20:29.48Drooliothe latest version doesn't have the function list but supposedly you can install the 1.2 function list plugin .dll
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20:34.01HjalteHmm. This is sad. I think one of my addons is causing me to disconnect on one of my characters.
20:34.22Kaeltenblizzcon tickets back on sale if anyone wanted to get one
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20:39.37Adirellenotepadplus is quite interesting (and yes, scite looks very "old")
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20:50.00chiperok, this is just silly.  why is blizzard switching the meaning of Enrage and Frenzy
20:50.15chiperthey arent actually changing the effects, just swapping the names
20:52.16nevcairielit was inconsistent before
20:52.44harlis there no add-on that automatically analyses the LFG chat yet?
20:54.03chiperanalyze it for what?
20:54.44steevfor analysis
20:54.46harlfor its content - for the dungeons the people are looking for
20:55.02chiperthat's what the LFG system is for
20:55.17chiperyou cant be in the LFG channel without signing up for something
20:55.42harllike - if player is still in channel -> take his/her last line in LFG and put it in a list, so that 1) i don't have to look through all the chat manually and 2) that player and his/her search doesn't get lost
20:56.13harlchiper: not quite right. i'm using autoLFG to sit there and post messages and all i'm listet for is a Zone, not a dungeon
20:56.31harland absolutely nobody searches for people to play in a certain zone
20:56.51harl*listed
20:58.06chiperthis is true, nobody uses the zone LFG type
20:58.25harlstill, i'm in the channel.
20:58.29chiperbut I've never seen anyone ask in lfg chat for a zone group
20:58.41harli never said that anyone should do that
20:59.55harlwhat i'm looking for is an add-on that puts a stupid message like "56 priest healer LFG Kraul" into some kind of list so that i don't have to read it 30 times in the chat
21:01.25harlit could even use its own channel to communicate, literally creating a whole new and much better lfg system than the one provided by blizzard because that one sucks
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21:01.42harland everybody knows it
21:01.46Aiiexcept that it wouldnt be better, because 90% of the population wouldnt use it either
21:01.57chiperright
21:02.03Aiiand the requirement of a good lfg system is that everyone (or at least mostly everyone) uses it
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21:02.19harlthey would because it would analyse both, the lfg channel and its own one
21:02.19chiperwhich is why the current LFG system sucks so much
21:02.34harlexactly
21:02.49chiperwho would have thought that dumping the old LFG channel would actually be a bad move
21:03.07harlme
21:03.09harlactually
21:03.17Aiiwell, yes and no
21:03.30Aiithe current design works fine, if you just use the channel portion
21:03.39CIA-4503StingerSoft * r80291 10LittleWigs/ (8 files in 4 dirs): LittleWigs: update ruRU
21:03.39harli've always voted against removing the free lfg channel
21:03.43nevcairielThe LFG UI isnt too bad
21:03.47nevcairielpeople just dont use it really
21:03.48Aiirequiring people to actively put themselves as lfg did help a ton with removing spam
21:03.58chiperthe LFG panel works great when people us it
21:04.17nevcairielDuring BC beta
21:04.23nevcairieleveryone used the panel
21:04.28nevcairielit was so easy to find groups for the instances
21:04.30chiperaii: and moved it all to trade chat :P
21:04.32nevcairielon Live .. well ..
21:04.42Aiitrade chat is at least restricted to cities
21:04.49harlthe current design sucks... completely.. 1) i can't search for dungeons that are above or beneath a certain level range (wtf) .. 2) i can only choose 3 dungeons (wtf) .. 3) i can only search for dungeons that my current char can go to (wtf!)
21:05.16harlrestrictions generally suck
21:05.17nevcairielpersonal misfortune, huh
21:05.21chiperyeah, that last caviate is pretty anoying
21:06.00nevcairielyou still get in the lfg channel if you sign up
21:06.01nevcairielso spam there
21:06.12harlspamming (guess what).. sucks.
21:06.36nevcairielso with the old free lfg channel, you wouldnt use it to spam your dungeon search?
21:06.36Aiithe point is, it's not really any worse than the original system
21:06.38nevcairielis confused
21:06.48harli know so many people who would gladly use another add-on if it provided a better solution to finding other players. really.
21:07.05Aiithe problem is critical mass, harl
21:07.17AckisWorkwasn't there call to arms back in the day?
21:07.29Aiipeople wont bother adopting it until it works well, and it wont work well until people adopt it
21:07.30nevcairieladdons like that have a flaw, not everyone has them
21:07.46CIA-4503toadkiller * r80292 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
21:07.46CIA-45LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
21:07.46CIA-45- Vengeful Nether Drake
21:07.46CIA-45<PROTECTED>
21:07.47nevcairielpersonally, i wouldnt install such a addon
21:07.57nevcairieljust because i believe the built-in measures are good enough
21:08.00harlnevcairiel: i hate to read the same stupid messages 10 or 30 times while other people's messages get lost among that spam
21:08.19dafireuse "Report Spam" ;)
21:08.19Obelixprimei'd like to install addons while in game
21:08.19nevcairiel(23:03:22) (harl) i've always voted against removing the free lfg channel <--- sooo .. huh? same dealy?
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21:08.53harlnevcairiel: same deal. i'd still have wanted an add-on for the free lfg channel.
21:09.08nevcairielWrite one? :)
21:09.32harli can't, i'm not a good programmer.
21:09.33*** part/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@54-94.candlewood.dynip.msu.edu)
21:09.52dafirecool .. beta char copy is about 5 minutes .9
21:10.08nevcairiellogin is about 5 hours, though
21:10.15dafire^
21:10.26dafirei hope they patch soon
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21:10.55Obelixprimehas anyone tried going from shadow to a smite spec for levelling in the beta?
21:11.04Aiiwhy would you
21:11.05Obelixprimei was going to try it when i go home in a few minutes
21:11.24Obelixprimebetter burst damage/mana efficiency?
21:11.33nevcairielapparently with all the new spellpower, holy priests can grind for ever
21:11.36nevcairieldue to mana regen
21:11.39dafireI guess you won't ,)
21:11.55aestilany suggestions for how to spec a lvl 70 warlock whose sole purpose will be to farm herbs in lvl 70 zones?
21:11.56AeyanSmite has bad efficiency
21:12.03AeyanGood damage though
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21:12.08Obelixprimei healed zul'drak in bt/swp dps gear
21:12.17AckisWorkehh just wear your holy gear and go shadow?
21:12.18Obelixprimeit was pretty crazy
21:12.27dafireaestil, demonology .. and let felpuppy handle mobs near plants .9
21:12.56nevcairielzul'drak, isnt that a zone?
21:13.53Aiinevcairiel: shadowpriests could already grind forever, and they have extra handy toys like silence, snare, etc..
21:14.38Obelixprimethere's an instance in it
21:14.47Obelixprimesort of like a miniature zul'aman
21:15.48CIA-4503adirelle * r80293 10CastYeller/ (CastYeller.lua CastYeller.toc):
21:15.48CIA-45CastYeller:
21:15.48CIA-45- added a debug option in the UI.
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21:16.29dafirehmm.. guess there is only need for one shadow in lk raids
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21:17.13sbwe will see...
21:17.22sband whats "need"
21:17.53Obelixprime10% increase in spell power in the disc tree, and 31% of your spirit is converted to spell power
21:18.23sbat the moment you "need' none for e.g. kalecgos and 3 for felmyst, so there is no "you need only one"
21:18.35Hjalte[Ammo]: I recently reinstalled oUF_Ammo, but it looks all weird. I also got this error on login: http://ace.pastey.net/93633
21:18.36sbit depends on enocunters, i dont think there will be fixed raid-setups
21:19.20Obelixprimeso, say right now i'm at like 300 spirit, and 1300 spell power, that's so that's 1523 spell powerish
21:19.32Obelixprimethey're thinking of making VT raid wide
21:19.43Obelixprimewhich will make it a 1 spriest requirement effectively
21:19.53Obelixprimebut they're also going to reduce the coefficient if they do that
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21:26.48Adirelleuninstalls ultraedit
21:26.55Obelixprimeewww
21:28.09aestili am noob at lock
21:28.12aestilis this ok?
21:28.13aestilhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVzrVRbZbgczIi0cxzt
21:28.44Aiiwhy no soul link?
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21:29.38Aiiwhy 3/3 mana feed but only 1/3 demonic knowledge
21:30.19Cairennjust fyi, the "compatible with WotLK" flag is now avail on WoWI, so you guys can tag your "live" versions with it if you want ... it is _off_ by default
21:31.55Corgantackles Cairenn
21:32.01Cairennfalls over and giggles
21:32.56aestilAii: clearly, i was asking for help.  this is not my character.  i need it to farm and UA spec for farming seems retarded.
21:33.27AiiI was just pointing out what I saw as flaws, aestil :)
21:33.39Aiisorry if the format of my reply seemed aggressive :P
21:33.46aestilcould you fix it and relply with tlink?
21:34.04Aiiwell, affliction is actually pretty good for farming
21:34.16Aiibut if you want a demo build, sure, give me a sec
21:36.31Aiiif it's solely for farming, probably something like this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMRVMZ0gczIizzest
21:36.38aestilfarming herbs specifically.
21:37.23Aiispec has very little to do with herb farming, unless you're harvesting bog lords o.o
21:38.02aestili suppose.
21:38.12kenlyricyou want demo
21:38.16XuerianAffliction is nice for farming, but so long as it doesn't resist fire, I have to say I like sac-destro best.... Unlimited mana + fast kills = win
21:38.28kenlyricuse pets for distraction
21:38.38AiiXuerian: depends on what you're farming
21:38.51XuerianAii: true, if there's more than two at a time, would have to be demo or aff.
21:38.54Aii"doesn't resist fire" isnt the only determiner
21:39.08Xuerianjust likes lighting things on fire a bit too much.
21:39.23Aiimy warlock is 21/40, I sac-farm :P
21:39.30Aii<3 legion hold
21:39.40Xuerianlol.
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21:39.53Aii2-shotting mobs all day long, yes please
21:40.07Aiioh, and they're on an "always up" respawn timer? even better
21:40.15XuerianYeah; I was afraid to go destro... Then I did it one day mid MGT, and I don't want to go back
21:40.43XuerianHaven't learned how to pvp worth shit with it, but... I don't like pvp anyway >.>
21:40.51Aiieh... destro isnt that great for pvp
21:40.58Aiiat least, not without a completely separate spec
21:41.01aestillets just say i kept this UA build for farming
21:41.07aestilwhat pet should i use?
21:41.18Aiiwhat's the UA build? (didnt see it linked)
21:41.19XuerianIf you're affliction, imp or succy for dark pact
21:41.23aestilimp for dark pact?
21:41.31aestilor whatever the mana share thing is?
21:41.32Aiibut in general yes imp
21:41.55nevetsanyone know the name of the mod that makes the mini map buttons square? =x
21:44.31Obelixprimecan you turn off the error frame in game?
21:44.37Obelixprimeor do you need a mod to redirect it?
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21:45.07AiiBelieve there's a checkbox for Show Interface Errors in the options?
21:45.24PrimerInterface\\FrameXML\\PVPFrame.lua:255: attempt to index field 'CharacterFrame' (a nil value)
21:45.34ObelixprimeDoes an interface error include "Spell not ready" though?
21:45.47Aiioh, no, not those Obelixprime
21:45.59Primertrying to figure out what's causing that when I bring up the arena team dialog
21:46.05Primererr, frame
21:46.20ObelixprimeYeah, that's what I want to suppress since my boss mod warnings go there
21:46.25Obelixprimeand its frustrating to see them
21:47.06aestilanyone else seeing radiohead this month at the hollywood bowl?
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21:49.31Primerseems it's SavedVariables/MoveAnything.lua
21:49.50PrimerAnyone know of a better, currently maintained, frame mover addon?
21:51.22Primerclad|sleep: well, the problem persists. It seems it's an Astrolabe issue, since the code I took from TomTom and put into my addon does the same thing
21:51.25XuerianFluidFrames has been mentioned as functional
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21:51.43Primer(mod)-rightclick on the map frame, the dot shows up for a split second, and it's gone
21:52.17Cairenn[edit] In addition, Dolby has added some code so that there is a link at the top of the WotLK Beta download category that links to any "live" addons that have been flagged for WotLK. So now if you have a "live" version that works for both live and WotLK, you don't have to have it in both categories seperately. If you still want to have a seperate version in the WotLK Beta though, because they still need testing or whatever, you are certainly
21:52.36Cairenn(sorry for the spam)
21:52.54PrimerXuerian: thanks
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21:57.00OdlawHrm.. trying to update an addon my friend uses, and it has a dependency on Blizzard_AuctionUI.. tho it doesn't seem to like loading it in wotlk.. any ideas?
22:01.06nevcairielDid you change the interface version in the .toc to 30000 ?
22:01.09dieck_Our guild has it's first go on Supremus. Bosskillers: "A massive melee damage ability done to the highest HP target with significant threat.". Can anyone specify "significant"?
22:01.36Odlawya
22:01.48nevcairielWe usually use 3 tanks that have to keep up, dieck_
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22:03.15OdlawThe .toc version is set to 30000, with a #Dependencies: Blizzard_AuctionUI    When I look at the addon list, it displays it's name in red whether I have load out of date addons checked or not
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22:05.06dieck_nevcairiel: so did we, 1 warrior and 2 druid soakers :)
22:05.33dieck_that worked good then.
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22:07.03CIA-4503StingerSoft * r80294 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/Anetheron.lua Karazhan/Attumen.lua): BigWigs: update/added ruRU
22:07.40AckisWorkI'm surprised no one has touched ruRU for ARL
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22:12.35harlAckisWork: thanks for mentioning CallToArms - which still seems to work to the most degree.
22:13.13AckisWorkthe biggest flaw with it... was... lack of uptake
22:13.20AckisWorkwhich was talked about
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22:17.19Gnarfoz~seen profalbert
22:17.22purlprofalbert <n=profalbe@80-123-34-110.adsl.highway.telekom.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 22m 2s ago, saying: 'Funkeh`: hmm... strange'.
22:17.51Funkeh`wtf?
22:18.09GnarfozRANDOM PINGAGE
22:18.21Funkeh`AckisWork, because it's shit
22:18.48CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80296 10Prat/ (37 files in 3 dirs):
22:18.48CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
22:18.48CIA-45First pass implementation of module control. 3 options - Don't load,
22:18.48CIA-45Disabled, Enabled. At present only "Don't load" and "Enable" are working.
22:18.48CIA-45Disabled is forthcoming. Works well, and doesn't add any measureable memory
22:18.49CIA-45overhead for enabled modules. With all modules set to "Dont Load" memory use
22:18.53CIA-45is 86K. with the current 16 modules set to "Enabled" - 384K.
22:19.13Funkeh`AckisWork, does 3 translators versus over 1.3k projects put it to scale?
22:20.00sylvanaari love grep
22:21.39Odlawit's a wonderful thing.
22:21.58sylvanaarhand editing 33 modules = no fun
22:22.11Funkeh`sure it is
22:22.16Funkeh`take pride in your work!
22:22.43Odlawi use powergrep when in windoze
22:24.10PrimerIt seems that SL/SL warlocks are geming for haste nowadays, but I'm curious if that's truly effective
22:24.29Primersed.exe
22:25.13Funkeh`sweet
22:25.18Funkeh`ive got money waiting for me
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22:25.25Funkeh`all I need to do is open openme.zip
22:25.42*** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=Matrix11@pD957D48C.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:25.54Odlawah see.. that's when you do open it...in a virtual machine
22:26.06Funkeh`I was expecting a trojan
22:26.07Odlawand see what they want ya to do.
22:26.13Funkeh`just Ellipsis nuke pics, /zzz
22:26.19Funkeh`nude*
22:26.49Funkeh`eset slammed it already
22:27.09AckisWorkFunkeh`: ARL is shit? :P
22:27.23Funkeh`Is it?
22:27.37AckisWorkwell I think so, but was reading back scroll lol :P
22:31.17ag`sylvanaar, what is the difference between "do not load" and "disabled"
22:31.53Ellipsisdisabled means they load but don't do anything
22:32.02Obelixprimewhat's a good bag mod for wrath?
22:32.09sylvanaardo not load - does not load the module at all.
22:32.10Obelixprimeit seems like arkinventory is the only one available
22:32.14sylvanaarsorta
22:32.18ag`ok
22:32.20ag`combuctor
22:32.22ZhinjioObelixprime: Kaelten is resurrecting onebag for wrath
22:32.22Matrix110Obelixprime is ArkInvetory working?
22:32.24ag`it probably works
22:32.28sylvanaardisabled, its there still so you can enable it without reloadui
22:32.35Matrix110For me it didnt
22:32.42Matrix110So I got onebag from the svn
22:33.08ObelixprimeMatrix110: According to this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10308-ArkInventoryWotLK.html
22:33.20Matrix110ah thats new
22:33.29Matrix110didnt exist when i tested
22:33.31Matrix110but good to know
22:33.40Matrix110can use it again <3
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22:34.17Ellipsisbtw Funkeh` let me know if you enjoy those pics, I'll send moar later
22:35.06Funkeh`O.O
22:35.36ag`is there an addon profiler/enabler/disabler that works for WotLK? OptionHouse doesn't
22:36.21ag`sylvanaar, does Prat 3 work in WotLK yet?
22:36.32Zhinjiochatter works (mostly)
22:36.42Obelixprimebleh, arkinventory just gave me an error
22:38.13Ellipsisag`: Tekkub updated his iirc
22:38.21Trell-Obelixprime: Baggins
22:38.51Industrialhttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/ead081e4a859a9eebb4d4687b562b17e.jpg
22:38.55Industrial:D
22:39.07Industrialbah lyn's not here :<
22:39.13Ellipsisneeds moar nekkid Industrial
22:39.31Industrialagreed, but then ill die
22:39.32Industrial:d
22:39.35Ellipsis=[
22:39.36Adirellelua> string.gsub('[random[$a] stuff$nblop]', '(%b%[%])', '%1')
22:39.37lua_botAdirelle: [random[$a] stuff$nblop], 0
22:39.37Industrial(working on the unitframes btw)
22:39.59Ellipsis(wtf shaman)
22:40.06Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
22:40.18Ellipsistickles Zhinjio
22:40.52Industrial(shaman pwns tyvm its my main)
22:41.07Ellipsislol @ Industrial and "main" in the same sentence
22:41.10Ellipsislike it means anything!
22:41.36sylvanaarag` yep
22:43.10ag`sylvanaar, should I use 3.0 or 3.0-wotlk
22:43.19sylvanaaron wotlk you need wotlk
22:43.31IndustrialEllipsis: in MH tyvm
22:44.04Industrialas healer, but im going lolmental again in wotlk
22:44.07Industrialmethink
22:44.08Industrials
22:44.15Ellipsiszomg lolmental <3
22:44.18EllipsisI can has ur totemz?
22:44.30Industrialyes, but not if you are in the meelee group :D
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22:45.43ag`sylvanaar, it isn't up to date with your changes from 3.0, is it? :D
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22:46.18sylvanaarag` up to date except that module control commit i just made
22:47.24sylvanaarag` only 16 out of 33 modules have been ported
22:47.35ag`ok
22:48.34Silviu-Industrial that totem box is your own creation ?
22:49.26Aiiit looks like just a custom actionbar or two, any bar mod could probably handle that
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22:55.34CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80297 10Prat/addon/modules.lua:
22:55.34CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
22:55.34CIA-45Remove debug spam
22:56.38IndustrialSilviu-: nah
22:56.48Silviu-Okay
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22:56.54IndustrialSilviu-: its bt4
22:57.01Silviu-Oky thx :P
22:57.04IndustrialI have my own but doesnt work in wotlk
22:57.10Industrialyet!
22:57.23Industrialand yes, I click those:<
22:57.29Industrialnever really use em anyway
22:57.32Industrialgot macros :D
22:57.52Silviu-I should make some macros too hmm
22:57.53CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80298 10Prat/ (38 files in 4 dirs):
22:57.53CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
22:57.53CIA-45Merge up module control changes into the wotlk branch
22:58.25Industrialjust /castsequence one of each type and make a macro for raiding, soloing, partying :)
22:58.28Silviu-And keybind them
22:58.38Industrialgot one for caster group and meelee group for raids
23:02.49CIA-4503Cybersea * r80299 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Council.lua Shahraz.lua Souls.lua): BigWigs: ruRU update for some triggers
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23:06.52CIA-4503adirelle 07oo * r80300 10Yatba/Yatba/Yatba.lua:
23:06.52CIA-45Yatba:
23:06.52CIA-45- unit headers can be enabled by group,
23:06.52CIA-45- display portrait as header icon,
23:06.52CIA-45- changed the template format,
23:06.53CIA-45- do not repeat unit name when an header is displayed.
23:09.02NivFreaklol
23:09.09NivFreaksooo many angry blizzcon people
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23:11.24Matrix110why?
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23:19.08CIA-4503adirelle 07oo * r80301 10Yatba/Yatba/Yatba.lua: Yatba: fixed a nil method error.
23:23.55Adirellenight
23:24.52IndustrialNivFreak: why
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23:30.42IndustrialTekkub: tried anything on the bag addon?
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23:31.11CIA-4503ackis * r80302 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files):
23:31.11CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
23:31.11CIA-45- Point to LibAboutPanel
23:31.20Tekkubno
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23:38.15CIA-4503ackis * r80303 10Collectinator/Collectinator.lua:
23:38.15CIA-45Collectinator:
23:38.15CIA-45- New pets added
23:38.59NivFreakyou guys didn't see what happened with blizzcon?
23:39.07NivFreak36 hours of site downtime, then they sell out in 10 mins
23:39.27NivFreakpeople couldn't complete their orders due to site issues, and then didn't get tickets when the site came back up
23:39.41JerleMinarai got my three!
23:39.49Ellipsisgrats
23:39.54JerleMinaracourse i only need one, the othre two are for polar bears to ebay
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23:40.58ZyndromeFisker- , http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/
23:41.17CIA-4503ackis * r80304 10AltTabber/ (. AboutPanel.lua embeds.xml):
23:41.17CIA-45AltTabber:
23:41.17CIA-45- Point to LibAboutPanel
23:42.02Zhinjioare there any other mods that let you do uf design other than pitbull?
23:42.06AckisJerleMinara: you mean the polar bears that you can get for $40 through direct TV?
23:42.29EllipsisZhinjio: ouf, if you want to play with lua instead of in-game settings :P
23:42.29Zhinjiohey Ackis
23:42.35JerleMinarathe people who are aware of that are not my target audience ellipsis
23:42.35Trell-Zhinjio; AGUF?
23:42.41JerleMinarai'm looking for the tards
23:42.49ZhinjioEllipsis: nope, in game.
23:43.02ZhinjioI feel like pitbull is holding me back somehow
23:43.04Ellipsisthen uh...does discord still exist in some form?
23:43.09Zhinjiono
23:43.15NivFreakZhinjio: omg
23:43.18NivFreakplease put undo in
23:43.18Ellipsisk I'm out of ideas :P
23:43.19Zhinjiocries at the death of discord.
23:43.25NivFreakI spent an hour rebuilding my SK list...
23:43.37NivFreakbecause I suicided a bunch of people on the wrong list
23:43.45Zhinjioo.O
23:43.54NivFreakit was really really painful
23:44.24ZhinjioPatient : Docter, it hurts when I do *this* ... Doctor : Well, um ... stop doing that.
23:44.30*** join/#wowace gix (i=gix@e180039173.adsl.alicedsl.de)
23:44.33Zhinjios/Docter/Doctor/
23:45.10ZhinjioI'm sorry you're having a bad time with it.
23:45.25Zhinjiotoday is not a good to bug me for stuff, however.
23:45.33CIA-4503ackis * r80305 10CNF/ (. AboutPanel.lua embeds.xml externals.txt):
23:45.33CIA-45CNF:
23:45.33CIA-45- Point to LibAboutPanel
23:45.37*** join/#wowace Yssaril (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-141-137-87.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net)
23:48.01CIA-4503ackis * r80306 10Querier/ (. AboutPanel.lua embeds.xml externals.txt):
23:48.01CIA-45Querier:
23:48.01CIA-45- Point to LibAboutPanel
23:48.17CIA-4503tawerner * r80307 10Menagerie/MenagerieData.lua:
23:48.17CIA-45Menagerie:
23:48.17CIA-45- Run dataminer. Adds Swift Zhevra, Gold Medallion, Competitor's Tabard and some very rare mounts.
23:50.01CIA-4503ackis * r80308 10WelfareEpics/ (. AboutPanel.lua embeds.xml externals.txt):
23:50.01CIA-45WelfareEpics:
23:50.01CIA-45- Point to About Panel (last one)
23:50.31Stanzillapoints Ackis to LibAboutPanel
23:50.35Ackislol
23:51.39CIA-4503sylvanaar 07WotLK-3.0 * r80309 10Prat/addon/ (modules.lua options.lua):
23:51.39CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
23:51.39CIA-45Implementation of disable. Disabling all modules saves about 150k on load,
23:51.39CIA-45and about 50k if they have been enabled and are set to disabled.
23:53.52CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r80310 10Prat/addon/ (modules.lua options.lua):
23:53.52CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
23:53.52CIA-45Implementation of disable. Disabling all modules saves about 150k on load,
23:53.52CIA-45and about 50k if they have been enabled and are set to disabled.
23:54.14CIA-4503ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r80311 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/runebar/runebar.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Easier to see which runes are ready and which ones are on cooldown
23:55.14sylvanaarhow can i tell if i am running wotlk in my code, so i can just use one branch
23:55.19ckknightselect(4, GetBuildInfo()) >= 30000
23:55.28sylvanaarthank you <3

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