| 00:00.43 | dieck | Xuerian: getiteminfo looks good, thx |
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| 00:03.21 | CIA-57 | 03toadkiller * r80059 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/data.lua: |
| 00:03.22 | CIA-57 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 00:03.24 | CIA-57 | - Swift Zhevra |
| 00:03.26 | CIA-57 | - Restore some items people deleted. Please, MERGE, don't just delete other peoples work through overwrites. |
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| 00:05.08 | CIA-57 | 03toadkiller * r80060 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:05.08 | CIA-57 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 00:05.08 | CIA-57 | - Swift Zhevra |
| 00:05.08 | CIA-57 | - Restore some items people deleted. Please, MERGE, don't just delete other peoples work through overwrites. |
| 00:07.31 | Xuerian | lol toad |
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| 00:10.07 | nymbia | err |
| 00:10.09 | nymbia | lol |
| 00:10.30 | nymbia | if my dataminer run blew away his data, he's gonna have to take that up with the dataminer (ie add his stuff to it) |
| 00:11.12 | Corgan | ? |
| 00:13.26 | nymbia | hrm |
| 00:13.45 | nymbia | the reversal he made was to re-add the bloodsail admiral hat to minipet.. :( |
| 00:13.47 | Corgan | date a minor? |
| 00:14.03 | nymbia | hell yeah |
| 00:16.39 | nevcairiel | just run the dataminer again |
| 00:16.40 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 00:17.37 | nymbia | lol |
| 00:18.41 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_080908_171629.jpg <-- lolwut |
| 00:19.10 | nymbia | only 1200? weak |
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| 00:21.19 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: that's on live, wtf are you doing :p |
| 00:21.37 | Arrowmaster | live has been messed up like that for a few days |
| 00:21.52 | Gnarfoz | hm, ours hasn't |
| 00:22.30 | syeren | So many scrubs being invited to play Beta :( |
| 00:22.33 | syeren | Makes me sad :( |
| 00:22.58 | nevcairiel | and they make our world server cry |
| 00:23.01 | nevcairiel | and die |
| 00:23.09 | syeren | I don't even have beta acess. |
| 00:23.12 | syeren | Hence me being pissed. |
| 00:23.23 | JerleMinara | will sell you a key if i get an extra |
| 00:23.25 | syeren | Killed KJ in two guilds, top ranked arena player, no invites \o/ |
| 00:23.25 | JerleMinara | $150~ |
| 00:23.36 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Wotlk_Addon_Status&diff=next&oldid=1567123 |
| 00:23.37 | Arrowmaster | i loled |
| 00:24.03 | JerleMinara | hahaha |
| 00:25.22 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 00:25.29 | nevcairiel | wonder if he missed the news |
| 00:26.12 | CIA-57 | 03toadkiller * r80061 10AutoBar/ (10 files): |
| 00:26.13 | CIA-57 | AutoBar: |
| 00:26.13 | CIA-57 | -- For spell counts dont display right click count if it is the same spell as left click. |
| 00:26.13 | CIA-57 | -- Swift Zhevra Mount |
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| 00:26.41 | JerleMinara | wait people still use KLM? |
| 00:26.49 | JerleMinara | err KLH |
| 00:26.54 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 00:27.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | :O |
| 00:27.37 | Funkeh` | eu server die? |
| 00:27.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | I thought it wasn't being updated |
| 00:27.42 | Funkeh` | I hsd to outland and dcd |
| 00:27.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | Funkeh`, ayup |
| 00:28.00 | Kirkburn|sleep | Can't even login |
| 00:28.08 | Funkeh` | yer :/ |
| 00:28.22 | Funkeh` | I had just respeced :/ |
| 00:29.51 | Funkeh` | woo |
| 00:30.01 | Funkeh` | can log in but stuck on char list |
| 00:30.09 | Funkeh` | why does it still say email not username |
| 00:30.14 | Funkeh` | I tried email and it didn't work |
| 00:33.02 | Funkeh` | Kirkburn|sleep, it's back |
| 00:33.42 | sb | Funkeh`: should be the email address of your blizz account |
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| 00:33.58 | sb | dont know if you can already link your beta accoutn to blizz account |
| 00:34.21 | JerleMinara | you can |
| 00:34.23 | JerleMinara | if you have one |
| 00:34.23 | Arrowmaster | fuck after figuring out what all i need to do to convert this from ace2 to ace3 i lost the desire to |
| 00:34.37 | JerleMinara | what're you trying to convert |
| 00:34.42 | Arrowmaster | bugsack |
| 00:35.20 | ulic | Arrowmaster: no, do it, do it. |
| 00:35.28 | CIA-57 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r80062 10Prat/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 00:35.28 | CIA-57 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 00:35.28 | CIA-57 | ChatLog,Sounds,PopupMessage - hacked up to work, cleanup later. 14 modules @ |
| 00:35.28 | CIA-57 | 325kB. |
| 00:35.28 | CIA-57 | 03ulic * r80063 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: Added the currently known WotLK bosses |
| 00:35.40 | ulic | the more mods we convert to Ace3, the soon I can stop running 3 frameworks. |
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| 00:36.01 | JerleMinara | keep at it, Arrow. you must help us break free of the tyranny of multiple frameworks |
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| 00:38.14 | sb | hm blizz www pages also unreachable |
| 00:38.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | Funkeh`, you logged in /after/ me :P |
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| 00:38.38 | Funkeh` | Kirkburn|sleep, none of your sillyness |
| 00:38.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | And EU doesn't use Blizz account yet, so stop telling us to use email addresses :P |
| 00:40.01 | dieck | if I have an AceConfigDialog (3.0) open and I change something in the options table, is there any command to reload/redraw the Config dialog? |
| 00:40.11 | CIA-57 | 03ulic * r80064 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: Added "Constructor & Controller", used similar to "Romulo & Julianne" |
| 00:41.16 | Nargiddley | LibStub("AceConfigRegistry-3.0"):NotifyChange("MyConfigTableName") |
| 00:43.43 | dieck | I'll have a try |
| 00:45.47 | CIA-57 | 03ulic 07wotlk * r80065 10LittleWigs/LittleWigs_WotLK/ (5 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: Bug fixes and bumped toc |
| 00:46.44 | dieck | Nargiddley: works like a charm, thanks! |
| 00:46.55 | Funkeh` | narg by the way tabs don't work in wotlk |
| 00:47.01 | Funkeh` | blizz tabs |
| 00:47.22 | Nargiddley | no key to look into things yet |
| 00:47.31 | Funkeh` | slack |
| 00:47.34 | JerleMinara | is there any way to make tortoisesvn default to omit externals? |
| 00:48.42 | Funkeh` | clad|sleep, I'm geting 132's on woltk when clicking an npc in LH to get it's location |
| 00:51.43 | JerleMinara | so what was it that the red stuff in the addon list was? |
| 00:51.58 | JerleMinara | did we decide it meant loadondemand but broken or something? |
| 00:53.38 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: i fixed the tabs in AceGUI in the branch |
| 00:53.50 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 00:53.51 | Funkeh` | alright |
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| 00:54.25 | CIA-57 | 03nevcairiel 07WotLK * r80066 10Mapster/FogClear.lua: |
| 00:54.25 | CIA-57 | Mapster: WotLK FogClear update |
| 00:54.25 | CIA-57 | - howling fjord complete |
| 00:54.25 | CIA-57 | - updates to EPL |
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| 00:55.49 | Resa | Ulic, I have a few fixes for babble-zone - spelling mistake & a few extra instances which are coming. |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-57 | 03ReSa * r80067 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-57 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-57 | - Added additional WoLK zones/instances |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-57 | - Fix spelling mistakes |
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| 01:08.27 | JerleMinara | you know |
| 01:08.38 | JerleMinara | i don't know what blizzard did in wotlk that screws with disembedding libraries |
| 01:08.40 | JerleMinara | but it's vexing |
| 01:10.17 | Arrowmaster | LoD is broken |
| 01:11.03 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: are you just exploring zones to update that info in mapster? |
| 01:11.13 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 01:11.16 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 01:11.16 | JerleMinara | I actually went and cleared all the LOD tags out Arrow |
| 01:11.25 | JerleMinara | after disembedding the libs |
| 01:12.04 | Funkeh` | if you bump your libs to 30k it will work |
| 01:12.13 | Funkeh` | <30k LoD is broken |
| 01:12.37 | nymbia | Funkeh`: fix it |
| 01:13.38 | Funkeh` | k |
| 01:14.00 | Gnarfoz | <30k toc is obviously wrong, anyway :P |
| 01:17.11 | nymbia | true |
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| 01:18.11 | JerleMinara | bumping the toc will not fix it, actually |
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| 01:25.02 | [Endeavour] | does anyone know the speed difference between for example string.sub() and local stsub = string.sub stsub() ? |
| 01:25.51 | [Endeavour] | i mean, make functions local.. my english is not the best as you might already know |
| 01:26.34 | nymbia | [Endeavour]: the purpose is to avoid an extra lookup against the global table |
| 01:26.54 | nymbia | so for oft-called functions, it's a bit faster to have a local reference |
| 01:27.04 | [Endeavour] | aaah makes sense... |
| 01:29.09 | [Endeavour] | well, i have about 2560 table lookups every 1.5 seconds, produces some lag... (40 people, 16 buff slots, 4 buffs to check) seems i shouldn't use loops and should use the combat log for buff tracking... |
| 01:29.17 | [Endeavour] | that's why i asked |
| 01:31.29 | [Endeavour] | http://ace.pastey.net/93408 that's my code to check for buffs... very ineffective but working |
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| 01:34.57 | Gnarfoz | [Endeavour]: 1) players can have 32 buffs 2) is there still no way to check for auras by name? :\ |
| 01:37.00 | [Endeavour] | they are checked by name |
| 01:37.50 | [Endeavour] | in that function |
| 01:37.54 | [Endeavour] | it's lousy |
| 01:38.13 | Gnarfoz | obviously I meant something like UnitHasBuff(spellid or "name") |
| 01:38.20 | Gnarfoz | or HasAura, actually |
| 01:38.25 | Gagorian | Only for players own buffs currently |
| 01:38.32 | Gagorian | In wotlk any unitid |
| 01:38.37 | Gnarfoz | there is HasAura? |
| 01:38.51 | Gagorian | GetPlayerBuffName("Name") works now |
| 01:38.56 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 01:39.06 | Gnarfoz | no? that function doesn't even exist in wotlk |
| 01:39.23 | Gagorian | You can check by name in wotlk with UnitAura |
| 01:39.28 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 01:39.33 | Gnarfoz | that's the interesting part :) |
| 01:39.44 | Gnarfoz | still, how? |
| 01:39.44 | Gagorian | Currently you can check by name players own buffs |
| 01:40.01 | Gagorian | name, rank, texture, count, debuffType, duration, timeLeft, untilCanceled = UnitAura("unit", [index] or ["name", "rank"][, "filter"]); |
| 01:40.32 | Gnarfoz | I gotta try that. I don't think we're trying to do the same thing ;) |
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| 01:40.59 | Gagorian | You can do UnitAura("target", "Prayer of Fortitude") for example |
| 01:42.31 | [Endeavour] | UnitAura() not listed in wowwiki. is it wotlk only? |
| 01:42.45 | Shefki | It's new. |
| 01:43.23 | Gnarfoz | a) it's new b) I suggest using wowprogramming.com because it's both complete and up to date (at least for live) |
| 01:43.44 | Gnarfoz | crap I don't remember the last addon I wanted to check out from branches :\ |
| 01:43.50 | [Endeavour] | thanks for that hint :) |
| 01:44.37 | Xuerian | [Endeavour]: Check wowprogramming.com for the most up to date references. It doesn't have some of the examples that wowwiki does though, so if you need more info, go there |
| 01:44.41 | Shefki | c) I'd recommend reading the UI forum threads on upcoming changes. Makes life easier. |
| 01:45.34 | Shefki | d) Someone get someone in Blizzard to unstick my DeathKnight. :( |
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| 01:46.13 | Ellipsis | you got him stuck, you can get him unstuck! :P |
| 01:46.21 | [Endeavour] | well what i wanted to do is writing a buff addon, similar to smartbuff and others, but with some never seen features. it works flawlessly and i really love my addon, but it is a waste of memory and cpu. produces a lot of lag |
| 01:46.31 | Shefki | Not when the game crashes everytime I log into him. |
| 01:46.37 | Ellipsis | ooh, you got *that* bug |
| 01:47.09 | Shefki | I wonder what the best race is for a DK. |
| 01:47.14 | [Endeavour] | gnome! :D |
| 01:47.29 | Shefki | I mean racial wise... |
| 01:47.32 | Ellipsis | blood elf |
| 01:47.49 | Shefki | Alliance? |
| 01:48.19 | [Endeavour] | still gnome... get out of frost novas and that stuff |
| 01:48.39 | Shefki | Death Knights can just pull mobs to them though. |
| 01:48.40 | [Endeavour] | hm or dwarv, no poison or bleed effects |
| 01:48.55 | [Endeavour] | good point shefki |
| 01:49.00 | Ellipsis | shadowmelded DK = oh snap? |
| 01:49.18 | Shefki | Only point to shadowmeld IMO is drinking and yeah no mana. |
| 01:49.28 | Xuerian | Belf (Silence) Nelf (Shadowmeld) Orc (Axes, bloodlust) Tauren (Stomp, hp), there are your winners |
| 01:49.38 | Shefki | Actually you can use shadowmeld in combat now can't you? |
| 01:49.52 | nocts | You've been able to for a -very- long time now. |
| 01:50.01 | nocts | And it's always been a wonderful method of ambushing someone, even in BGs |
| 01:50.02 | Xuerian | Wow, didn't know that |
| 01:50.15 | Arrowmaster | since when? |
| 01:50.24 | Shefki | It's part of the beta. Can't do it on live. |
| 01:50.41 | Shefki | Or at least it was, not sure if it still is. |
| 01:51.08 | Dark_Elf | wants to play a blood elf death knight cause they can absorb mana from the magic users and slash them down to size |
| 01:51.33 | Shefki | Nelf being the best Alliance race for it seems rather weak. |
| 01:52.12 | Dark_Elf | would go human on alliance cause they have sword preference |
| 01:53.51 | Shefki | I rolled a Dranei on the beta just for the humor factor. |
| 01:53.59 | Shefki | Space Alien evil dude. |
| 01:54.45 | Lyn_ | lol |
| 01:55.02 | Ellipsis | the draenei say in that one DK quest in new avalon is great |
| 01:55.04 | Lyn_ | i killed a bt equipped lvl 70 hunter with some of these "BAMBAMEPIC"-exotic pets... with my 64 dk |
| 01:55.18 | Ellipsis | "I'd know those face tentacles anywhere!" |
| 01:55.40 | Shefki | Yeah that was great. |
| 01:55.49 | Shefki | That and riding the baby horse. |
| 01:56.17 | Ellipsis | the babies are the best |
| 01:56.20 | [Endeavour] | you are lucky, i subscribed to the beta in my account and at the curseforge giveaway and didn't get any beta key |
| 01:56.29 | Ellipsis | tauren dk + baby horse = lulzworthy |
| 01:57.10 | Shefki | At the final even thing there were liike 4 of us doing it and we stood and mocked the Lich King. |
| 01:57.14 | Shefki | event* |
| 01:57.26 | Xuerian | Shefki: Rofl... I saw someone doing that |
| 01:57.29 | JerleMinara | wish you could skip the final event |
| 01:57.33 | Xuerian | Shefki: The horse... that was awesome |
| 01:57.51 | Shefki | I failed the quest several times becuase I was having fun riding the baby horse. |
| 01:58.06 | Xuerian | haha |
| 01:59.05 | Shefki | And in the survey for that quest I filled out the comment section and in big caps told them whatever they do don't take out the ability to ride the baby horses. |
| 01:59.24 | Resa | Anyone else try the new bg? |
| 01:59.27 | Ellipsis | pets Shefki |
| 02:00.22 | Ellipsis | I dunno, I think it would make more sense if only the, er, "vertically challenged" races could ride those |
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| 02:01.19 | Shefki | I don't care about what makes sense... |
| 02:02.03 | Ellipsis | I know :P |
| 02:02.43 | Shefki | I still don't get based on the story why DK are Alliance or Horde. |
| 02:02.58 | Shefki | I get why they bailed on the Lich King. |
| 02:08.41 | Xuerian | Shefki: DIMENSIONAL STARSHIP |
| 02:09.19 | Shefki | I'm pretending like that didn't happen. |
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| 02:21.00 | Ackis | freakin internet is gay today |
| 02:21.52 | Shefki | Indeed the Internet is a very happy place, where else could I ride a baby horse with an obviously too big body. |
| 02:22.12 | Ackis | heh :P would a modem overheating = disconnecting? |
| 02:22.25 | Shefki | Probably. |
| 02:22.55 | Ackis | well my modem/router/back of monitor now has a 4 inch desktop fan blowing on it :P |
| 02:23.41 | Ackis | at least I sorted my dvd/bluerays by genre while net was out hehe |
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| 02:28.03 | Ackis | nymbia: were you planning on doing any work on spellbinder, and if so, what priority is it, and if not, want some suggestions? :D |
| 02:29.55 | nymbia | Ackis: was actually just about to tear into it, what sort of suggestions you got? |
| 02:31.39 | Ackis | yay :D the biggest problem I've noticed with it is stances/possession (ie: shadowform/stealth/ghosts on gorefiend), I know it assigns spells to binds, but can you set it up so you can have multiple abilities assigned to one keybind? so I can have 1 bound to x in stance A and bound to y in stance B? |
| 02:32.22 | Ackis | omg lol I just blew a kiss to someone named nymbia :P |
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| 02:33.54 | nymbia | Ackis: that was you? LOL |
| 02:34.04 | Ackis | haha yah my alts alt |
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| 02:34.41 | Ackis | I'm pickpocketing heavy junk boxes to get rep w/ my main |
| 02:35.56 | nymbia | Ackis: well, it works on the SetBindingSpell() etc, which don't support conditionals at all - so, i'd need to either have it make macros or build action buttons :( |
| 02:36.35 | Ackis | hah do it or I'll camp you or something? hahah :D nah I was hoping for conditionals w/i the mod itself |
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| 02:46.42 | DARKGuy | hey, how was the script to display the frame beneath the mouse cursor? |
| 02:49.13 | nymbia | GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 02:49.32 | CIA-57 | 03parnic * r80071 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc modules/FocusCast.lua): |
| 02:49.32 | CIA-57 | IceHUD: |
| 02:49.32 | CIA-57 | - added user-submitted FocusCast module |
| 02:50.57 | Ackis | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/env :D |
| 02:52.11 | DARKGuy | Ackis, yey |
| 02:52.45 | Ackis | heheh yay |
| 02:54.06 | CIA-57 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r80072 10Prat/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:54.06 | CIA-57 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 02:54.06 | CIA-57 | Cleaned up sounds module. Tweaked channelnames channel abbreviations. |
| 02:55.21 | raegx | ugh |
| 02:55.29 | CIA-57 | 03parnic * r80073 10IceHUD/modules/Runes.lua: |
| 02:55.29 | CIA-57 | IceHUD: |
| 02:55.29 | CIA-57 | - increasing higher vertical positioning from 200 to 300 for the runes module by request |
| 02:55.37 | raegx | i used to use key bindings for my mounts....is there any way to make a mount macro in wotlk |
| 02:55.42 | raegx | or a place where i can see new macro commands |
| 02:57.07 | Ackis | ~arl |
| 02:57.08 | purl | hmm... arl is a poorly named add-on (8% lame), 92% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however, and where to get them. It will work on Wrath of the Lich King beta servers as well. |
| 02:59.14 | [Endeavour] | where does purl get that data from? |
| 02:59.22 | fewyn | raegx: i haven't seen anything yet :( i've had to manual put them on my bars and click on them |
| 03:00.55 | nymbia | [Endeavour]: you tell it |
| 03:01.08 | [Endeavour] | how do i? |
| 03:01.27 | raegx | @fewyn sigh, i guess i can do it through bt4 |
| 03:02.01 | raegx | anyone else having to rechoose their server after a /quit ? |
| 03:02.44 | Dashkal | raegx: I do |
| 03:03.12 | JerleMinara | settings aren't saving |
| 03:03.15 | JerleMinara | by the way |
| 03:03.23 | JerleMinara | like uiscale and a few others |
| 03:03.49 | JerleMinara | you need to login, select a char, then logout, then hit back, then relog. should save 'em that way |
| 03:03.51 | Dashkal | JerleMinara: I've noticed that one as well |
| 03:03.58 | JerleMinara | that's the workaround |
| 03:04.04 | raegx | @jerle ty |
| 03:04.40 | JerleMinara | gonig from character select to the account screen seems to do a settings save |
| 03:04.46 | JerleMinara | whereas just exiting doesn't |
| 03:04.57 | JerleMinara | new bug in 8770, don't recall it being there in the previous one |
| 03:09.25 | raegx | omg. holy fire a 1.5 sec cast |
| 03:09.30 | raegx | halelua |
| 03:09.38 | raegx | how did i miss that in the changes |
| 03:10.18 | Resa | with a cooldown. |
| 03:11.00 | CIA-57 | 03parnic * r80074 10IceHUD/modules/ (LacerateCount.lua SunderCount.lua): |
| 03:11.00 | CIA-57 | IceHUD: |
| 03:11.00 | CIA-57 | - only show Lacerates if they were applied to the target by the player (not by other players); had problems with bear tank + feral dps in the same group |
| 03:11.00 | CIA-57 | - made the same change to SunderCount's version of the debuff function, but didn't set it to restrict to the player |
| 03:11.07 | raegx | that is fine, cd is only 1 sec longer than the dot |
| 03:11.14 | raegx | its like lights grace for pallies |
| 03:11.26 | raegx | but not speed bonus for smite |
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| 03:18.27 | raegx | how much spellpower were mages at 70 packing? or even spriests |
| 03:18.33 | raegx | when they first got in here |
| 03:19.46 | Industrial | in where |
| 03:19.55 | raegx | wotlk beta |
| 03:20.17 | Industrial | well mages is pretty general isnt it |
| 03:20.18 | Industrial | :p |
| 03:20.35 | Industrial | not that i'd know either way |
| 03:20.52 | Industrial | my elem sham in some pieces tier4 had around 700 nature power |
| 03:21.03 | raegx | meh just wondering, my t6/sunwell gear nets me 1203 spellpower |
| 03:21.08 | raegx | seems a little op since i hit so hard |
| 03:21.27 | raegx | holy priest |
| 03:22.14 | Industrial | meh op |
| 03:22.24 | Industrial | my sham specced resto still hit lightning bolts for 1k |
| 03:24.31 | CIA-57 | 037destiny * r80075 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 03:24.31 | CIA-57 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 03:24.31 | CIA-57 | - koKR Update |
| 03:28.26 | CIA-57 | 037destiny * r80076 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Nalorakk.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman: koKR Update |
| 03:32.08 | CIA-57 | 037destiny * r80077 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 03:32.08 | CIA-57 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 03:32.08 | CIA-57 | - Fixed typo |
| 03:33.40 | CIA-57 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r350efee 10/ TourGuide_Alliance/56_57_Western_Plaguelands.lua : Ally WPL tweaks |
| 03:33.41 | CIA-57 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r8d0cde3 10/ TourGuide_Alliance/60_62_Hellfire_Peninsula.lua : Ally hellfire tweaks |
| 03:39.31 | Funkeh` | urg |
| 03:39.38 | Funkeh` | dead funky going to bed |
| 03:39.54 | Funkeh` | beta is bad |
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| 03:40.30 | Diao | Hmm |
| 03:40.58 | Diao | Xinhuan, do you happen to have the jc healing ring pattern from sunwell, or perhaps know someone who does? i've been asking around on horde and nobody seems to have it/know who has it |
| 03:43.33 | selckin | i have it :x |
| 03:56.36 | Shefki | Diao: I know people that have it alliance side but what realm are you looking for it on? |
| 03:56.57 | Diao | blackrock |
| 03:56.59 | Diao | us |
| 03:57.06 | Diao | that's why i asked Xinhuan because he's on my realm =) |
| 03:57.22 | Shefki | Figured you were asking for the beta realm for some reason. |
| 03:58.07 | CIA-57 | 037destiny * r80078 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: koKR Update |
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| 04:02.29 | CIA-57 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r80079 10Prat/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:02.29 | CIA-57 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 04:02.29 | CIA-57 | Partially working playernames module. |
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| 04:06.21 | Xinhuan | healing ring i don't know Diao |
| 04:06.26 | Xinhuan | but you should check the blackrock forums |
| 04:06.30 | Xinhuan | there's a 4-page thread |
| 04:06.33 | Diao | oh |
| 04:06.39 | Xinhuan | detailing who can make what sunwell stuff |
| 04:06.41 | Diao | lol, i rarely read the forums |
| 04:06.50 | Diao | it's not stickied :( |
| 04:07.20 | Diao | time to do a search |
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| 04:19.21 | Aiiane | search? in an INTERNET forum? blasphemy |
| 04:19.48 | Diao | ah found it |
| 04:19.54 | Diao | time to friends these people |
| 04:26.33 | nymbia | safe to use metatables in AceConfig3 options tables? |
| 04:26.41 | sylvanaar | seems like it |
| 04:26.48 | nymbia | cool |
| 04:27.04 | nymbia | thanks :) |
| 04:30.07 | Arrowmaster | probably not a good idea on an args table though |
| 04:31.43 | nymbia | does one get set on those? |
| 04:33.13 | Arrowmaster | no but im perty sure aceconfig uses pairs on it |
| 04:33.24 | sylvanaar | how do i get the profiles node to go to the bottom of the list on acecfgdlg |
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| 04:34.36 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: good point, thanks |
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| 04:40.39 | CIA-57 | 03Allara * r80080 10HitsMode/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:40.39 | CIA-57 | HitsMode: |
| 04:40.39 | CIA-57 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.39 | CIA-57 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.39 | CIA-57 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.40 | CIA-57 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.42 | CIA-57 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.55 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar: huh? |
| 04:47.01 | |Yssaril| | anyone have any idea what the api is to get at hoe many talent points a quest rewards? |
| 04:49.00 | |Yssaril| | nm got it |
| 04:49.27 | |Yssaril| | was searching thru the live data not the beta one /sigh |
| 04:50.01 | sylvanaar | at the moment the profiles node is mixed in with all my modules - the acedb profiles node... |
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| 05:01.07 | CIA-57 | 03kagaro * r80081 10GatherMate_Data/GatherMate_Data.toc: GatherMate_Data: weekly data harvest via cron |
| 05:02.07 | CIA-57 | 037destiny * r80082 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Dalliah.lua Skyriss.lua Soccothrates.lua Zereketh.lua): |
| 05:02.07 | CIA-57 | LittleWigs: TempestKeep: |
| 05:02.07 | CIA-57 | - Removed old triggers & Fixed spellID |
| 05:02.07 | CIA-57 | - koKR Update |
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| 05:04.51 | nymbia | what's with the interface extractor's link being dead |
| 05:05.43 | CIA-57 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r80083 10Prat/ (modules/PlayerNames.lua services/links.lua): |
| 05:05.43 | CIA-57 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 05:05.43 | CIA-57 | Fix to the link registry calls |
| 05:09.10 | Arrowmaster | nymbia: it was dead for a long time then i somehow managed to get it, then it seems to have died again |
| 05:09.44 | nymbia | ~fail Blizz |
| 05:09.45 | purl | Blizz, you Fail! |
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| 05:37.15 | digmouse | aha, beta code |
| 05:39.14 | Shefki | Go roll your death night. And ride your baby horse. |
| 05:40.11 | digmouse | no, no DKs |
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| 05:41.59 | Shefki | digmouse: Seriously baby horses are awesome. |
| 05:42.11 | Shefki | Go do it before Blizzard nerfs fun. |
| 05:53.50 | Zhinjio | rogue question... |
| 05:53.59 | Zhinjio | how hard is it to meet the hit cap? |
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| 05:54.57 | Aeyan | Hard |
| 05:54.58 | Diao | nearly impossible Zhinjio |
| 05:55.00 | Aeyan | 363 |
| 05:55.02 | Diao | without gimping your other stats |
| 05:55.22 | Aeyan | Dual wield is a bitch |
| 05:55.41 | Aeyan | That's 363 with maxed precision, of course |
| 05:55.48 | Diao | lower if you cheat and have a draenei in your party |
| 05:55.57 | Diao | and even lower with an oomkin for imp FF |
| 05:56.01 | Diao | :p |
| 05:56.09 | Aeyan | That's what, like 16? |
| 05:56.18 | Diao | mm |
| 05:56.25 | Aeyan | Not sure, really |
| 05:56.27 | Aeyan | 1%, hehe |
| 05:56.36 | Diao | 15.77 for the draenei |
| 05:56.39 | Aeyan | Ah |
| 05:56.43 | Aeyan | Close enough |
| 05:56.46 | Diao | and 47.31 for the imp FF oomkin |
| 05:57.08 | Diao | so 300 if you have both |
| 05:57.12 | Diao | which is quite achievable |
| 05:57.12 | Aeyan | Unless he's oom |
| 05:57.17 | Diao | err |
| 05:57.21 | Diao | imp ff takes like 50 mana |
| 05:57.22 | erikh | heh |
| 05:57.23 | Diao | if he's oom >.> |
| 05:57.30 | Aiiane | on a side note |
| 05:57.31 | Aeyan | I've been hard oom before =P |
| 05:57.36 | Aeyan | I'm sure they could pull it off |
| 05:57.42 | Diao | lol |
| 05:57.43 | Aiiane | the nerfs to skillherald and whatnot can't come soon enough |
| 05:57.47 | Diao | it's nearly impossible |
| 05:57.50 | Diao | to not regain 50 mana |
| 05:57.52 | Aiiane | stupid rng stun losses -_- |
| 05:57.54 | Diao | for a 40 sec buff |
| 05:58.06 | Diao | RNG is stupid. I agree. |
| 05:58.14 | Diao | (coming from an orc warrior who plays mace spec) |
| 05:58.26 | Diao | but that's because I never win from RNG and I always lose to it.. |
| 05:58.34 | Diao | i have the worst RNG in the game :( |
| 05:58.37 | Aiiane | hell, i wouldnt mind if skillherald proc'd every hit for 1sec stun, at least then I'd *know* I'm going to die :P |
| 05:58.49 | Diao | i've gone matches against non-orc warriors |
| 05:58.55 | Diao | who resist my 2 or 3 mace stuns |
| 05:59.02 | Diao | and then i get mace stunned like 30+ times by them |
| 05:59.05 | Diao | in the same match |
| 05:59.12 | Diao | and i'm just going "wtf?" because I have 30% stun resist |
| 05:59.56 | Diao | and thus, i hate rng and think everything that's rng should be removed |
| 06:00.08 | Aiiane | remove spell resists imo! |
| 06:00.18 | Aiiane | :D |
| 06:00.27 | Diao | resist should lower damage taken |
| 06:00.28 | Diao | by a percentage |
| 06:00.31 | Aiiane | yes |
| 06:00.32 | Diao | instead of giving random resist |
| 06:00.38 | Diao | and warrior berserk stance penalty needs to go byebye |
| 06:00.39 | Aiiane | and not screw up my psychic screams :P |
| 06:00.45 | Diao | actually |
| 06:00.49 | Diao | all warrior penalties need to be removed |
| 06:00.59 | Diao | no more increased damage taken from deathwish, recklessness, or berserker stance |
| 06:01.04 | Aiiane | eh |
| 06:01.07 | Aiiane | deathwish i'd say yes |
| 06:01.16 | Aiiane | because you're becoming fear immune |
| 06:01.20 | Diao | no we aren't :p |
| 06:01.21 | Aiiane | but that's from the viewpoint of a priest |
| 06:01.24 | Diao | not in wrath |
| 06:01.32 | Aiiane | ok, in wrath maybe |
| 06:01.32 | Diao | they removed all fear immunities from warrior except berserker rage |
| 06:01.40 | erikh | whoa |
| 06:01.44 | Aiiane | (on a side note, my priest will be happen when that happens :P) |
| 06:01.47 | Diao | so they should remove all extra damage taken penalties |
| 06:02.10 | Aiiane | im assuming through that they still havent split up mortal strike into 2 separate abilities yet tho :P |
| 06:02.12 | erikh | arms warrior, i bid the farewell. |
| 06:02.15 | erikh | s/the/thee/ |
| 06:02.19 | Diao | also, they gutted recklessness completely |
| 06:02.26 | Diao | instead of 15 sec of 100% crit |
| 06:02.31 | Diao | it's next 3 special attacks crit.. |
| 06:02.37 | Diao | completely destroyed :\ |
| 06:02.45 | erikh | Diao: still on 30m cd? |
| 06:02.48 | Diao | nah, 5 min cd |
| 06:02.52 | Diao | but it's still destroyed |
| 06:02.53 | erikh | oh ok |
| 06:02.55 | erikh | that's tolerable |
| 06:02.56 | Diao | right now |
| 06:02.58 | Aiiane | at least you can use it in arena now |
| 06:02.59 | Diao | with recklessness |
| 06:03.04 | Diao | as fury, i can get up to 15 crits in a row |
| 06:03.06 | Diao | including whites |
| 06:03.16 | Diao | cutting it down to 3 specials only is :( |
| 06:03.35 | erikh | sure, but reck becomes something arms warrs can use now |
| 06:03.43 | erikh | other than just blowing a 30m cooldown |
| 06:03.48 | Diao | well |
| 06:04.00 | vithos | lua> 15/(30*60) |
| 06:04.00 | lua_bot | vithos: 0.0083333333333333 |
| 06:04.01 | Diao | keep in mind that you take 20% extra damage with recklessness up |
| 06:04.08 | Diao | 20% extra damage taken for 3 crits is pretty crap |
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| 06:04.12 | vithos | lua> 3/(5*60) |
| 06:04.12 | lua_bot | vithos: 0.01 |
| 06:04.12 | erikh | sure, but when the next 3 ms's crit |
| 06:04.13 | Diao | especially since they removed the fear immunity from it |
| 06:04.15 | erikh | that's not a bad thing |
| 06:04.15 | Diao | uh |
| 06:04.17 | Aiiane | except if those 3 crits are fast |
| 06:04.18 | Diao | it doesn't last long enough |
| 06:04.20 | Diao | for 3 MS |
| 06:04.22 | Aiiane | then you'll stop taking 20% damage |
| 06:04.23 | Diao | lasts 12 sec :p |
| 06:04.30 | vithos | looks like a buff to me. |
| 06:05.00 | Diao | erm |
| 06:05.03 | Diao | vithos you can't do it by straight math |
| 06:05.16 | Diao | because right now, in pve dps warriors chain recklessness with bloodlust/heroism, haste potion, etc |
| 06:05.25 | Diao | and the white crits provide the rage to spam heroic strikes for even higher damage |
| 06:05.35 | Diao | and you use it once per boss fight |
| 06:05.40 | Diao | most bosses do not last more than 5 min |
| 06:05.48 | Diao | so you're getting 15 crits per boss fight cut down to 3 |
| 06:05.55 | Diao | assuming you have the rage to sustain it |
| 06:06.04 | erikh | heh |
| 06:06.07 | erikh | ms/ms/execute |
| 06:06.16 | Diao | yeah |
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| 06:06.30 | vithos | sure, and they want it to be used every pull now instead of just "that random pull it happened to be up" |
| 06:06.36 | erikh | right now it doesn't take much gear to make that 5m cooldown unbelievably useful |
| 06:06.40 | Diao | and honestly, 3 special crits won't kill anyone in arena unless they're badly geared or already low health |
| 06:06.51 | erikh | when you can trivially knock off 8k health |
| 06:06.52 | Diao | i crit up to 5 times in a row on people and they still don't die :p |
| 06:06.57 | Diao | er |
| 06:06.58 | Diao | 8k? |
| 06:07.17 | Diao | MS crits for maybe 2.4k max on a fully sundered cloth with deathwish/trinket |
| 06:07.45 | Diao | and execute with minimum rage (which you WILL have after doing 2 MSes) |
| 06:07.56 | Diao | does maybe a 1.2k crit |
| 06:08.25 | Diao | every warrior has already said they'd rather keep the old 30 min cd version than the new one |
| 06:08.33 | Diao | because it's that much better |
| 06:10.11 | erikh | ms is 15 rage, right? |
| 06:10.14 | Diao | yep |
| 06:10.58 | Diao | tbh |
| 06:11.01 | Diao | if you have 15 rage |
| 06:11.02 | Aiiane | 100-30=0? |
| 06:11.05 | Diao | and the target is below 20% |
| 06:11.08 | Diao | you're better off heroic striking |
| 06:11.12 | Diao | it'll do more damage than execute :\ |
| 06:11.24 | erikh | not when your gear is crap |
| 06:11.27 | Diao | true |
| 06:11.27 | erikh | like on my arms warr |
| 06:11.28 | Diao | lol |
| 06:11.31 | Diao | but on a s4 warr |
| 06:11.36 | Diao | actually, since s2 or s3 |
| 06:11.36 | erikh | oh sure |
| 06:11.39 | Diao | execute stopped being good |
| 06:11.42 | Diao | nobody uses it anymore |
| 06:12.00 | Aiiane | obvious answer is to nerf melee gear scaling into the ground |
| 06:12.02 | Diao | same with raiding |
| 06:12.03 | Aiiane | then it'll be decent again |
| 06:12.05 | Aiiane | ;) |
| 06:12.07 | Diao | nobody uses execute in raids either |
| 06:12.16 | Diao | because it's worse than continuing a normal dps rotation, lol |
| 06:16.54 | Diao | I'm just waiting for that big warrior patch where they're like "here you go, we overhauled warriors completely" |
| 06:21.46 | digmouse | "Charge ablility has a new icon" |
| 06:22.37 | Diao | lol |
| 06:23.28 | Moddington | is the 2-h as a 1-h talent still there? |
| 06:23.50 | Diao | yes |
| 06:23.53 | Diao | And it is terrible. |
| 06:23.57 | Moddington | lol |
| 06:24.05 | Diao | no, seriously. |
| 06:24.07 | Moddington | does it allow them to dual-wield then? |
| 06:24.09 | Diao | yep |
| 06:24.17 | Diao | but all the warriors testing it say that it actually lowers your dps |
| 06:24.20 | Moddington | people actually have? |
| 06:24.22 | Diao | yep |
| 06:24.34 | Moddington | wait, how does the lowered dps work? |
| 06:24.50 | Diao | essentially |
| 06:24.58 | Diao | you lose a ton of white damage for a minor upgrade in yellow |
| 06:25.03 | Diao | because your swings are so slow |
| 06:25.38 | Moddington | ah |
| 06:25.53 | Diao | right now, most warriors dual wield 2.6-2.8 1 handers |
| 06:26.00 | Moddington | so it's terrible, as in it doesn't give warriors much? |
| 06:26.31 | Diao | not that it doesn't give warriors much.. it actually makes their dps worse than going an arms/fury hybrid with a weapon specialization such as poleaxe for 5% crit/crit damage, or sword for chance to hit twice |
| 06:27.07 | Diao | basically, if you spec into titan's grip and use 2 one-handers and dps |
| 06:27.12 | Diao | and then use 2 two-handers and dps |
| 06:27.16 | Moddington | lol, my friend, who's going to be leaving the game soon, said he'd stick around for that talent, own a bunch of people and then leave |
| 06:27.21 | Diao | you will do less with the 2h than 1h |
| 06:27.23 | Moddington | looks like he'll be dissapointed |
| 06:27.33 | JerleMinara | that'll get changed |
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| 06:27.41 | JerleMinara | i'm sure |
| 06:27.48 | Diao | it should be |
| 06:27.48 | JerleMinara | keep in mind this is still a very very early beta build |
| 06:28.01 | Moddington | yeah, I'm holding out for the mages buffs |
| 06:28.05 | Diao | like i said, warriors are supposed to be getting a complete overhaul |
| 06:28.08 | Diao | according to a blue post |
| 06:28.11 | Diao | so i'm waiting for that |
| 06:28.16 | Diao | mages got a lot of buffs already :p |
| 06:28.19 | vithos | i don't think they've even begun to tune dps yet for any class right? |
| 06:28.22 | Diao | they did the mage pass earlier |
| 06:28.28 | Diao | and they're still tuning them |
| 06:28.29 | JerleMinara | you know what i love about blizzard |
| 06:28.31 | Moddington | ooh *goes to check* |
| 06:28.43 | JerleMinara | they take 2 years to make an expansion but they really only finish it in like 3 months |
| 06:28.47 | Diao | lol |
| 06:28.49 | JerleMinara | wotlk is still being basically designed |
| 06:28.55 | Diao | well |
| 06:28.55 | JerleMinara | i mean look at death knights and shit |
| 06:28.58 | Diao | up until now |
| 06:29.03 | Diao | they were really only doing content design |
| 06:29.04 | JerleMinara | the patch has drastically changed every patch |
| 06:29.09 | Diao | not class design |
| 06:29.09 | Aiiane | no... wotlk is being *tuned* |
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| 06:29.13 | Aiiane | the content is there |
| 06:29.20 | Diao | since they need the community input for class balance and such |
| 06:29.27 | Aiiane | abilities/talents are a very small portion of content |
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| 06:29.51 | Diao | well |
| 06:29.53 | JerleMinara | which is why beta has access to none of the new tailoring stuff, or inscription, or glyphs, or more than like 3 zones? |
| 06:30.03 | JerleMinara | sorry dude, don't buy the "it's all there, we promise" |
| 06:30.10 | JerleMinara | pretty sure they sold us that line with TBC raiding |
| 06:30.17 | Moddington | blast wave's gonna get nerfed |
| 06:30.20 | Diao | you seem to forget that the actual execution is the shortest part of game design :p |
| 06:30.23 | Moddington | Blast Wave now knocks all affected targets back. |
| 06:30.29 | Diao | yeah, it sounds so cool right now Moddington |
| 06:30.37 | Diao | most of game design is planning/conceptual stuff |
| 06:30.48 | Aiiane | quite honestly |
| 06:30.48 | Diao | taking a bunch of ideas and then throwing out what seems bad |
| 06:30.52 | JerleMinara | i'm well aware Diao |
| 06:30.53 | Diao | before they start working on implementation |
| 06:30.54 | Moddington | dunno who's responsible for that, but Blizz is firmly against giving players knockback |
| 06:31.03 | Aiiane | most of the glyphs that were recently released, etc, were already planned well ahead of time, on a whiteboard somewhere |
| 06:31.09 | Diao | Moddington: plenty of classes have knockback now |
| 06:31.11 | Aiiane | Moddington: except shammies, apparently |
| 06:31.13 | Moddington | case in point: the Unstoppable Force |
| 06:31.14 | Diao | as well as anti-knockbcak |
| 06:31.15 | Aiiane | and and... |
| 06:31.17 | Diao | back* |
| 06:31.25 | Diao | deathknights have a pull.. lol |
| 06:31.29 | Diao | "get over here" *drag/taunt* |
| 06:31.32 | Moddington | so knockback is the new penetration/resilience? |
| 06:31.39 | Diao | something like that, i suppose |
| 06:31.40 | JerleMinara | Diao: but making ideas doesn't take two years |
| 06:31.44 | JerleMinara | i donno, i hate their dev cycle |
| 06:31.47 | Aiiane | JerleMinara: bullshit |
| 06:31.57 | Aiiane | making ideas can take ages if you're looking for GOOD ideas |
| 06:32.01 | Diao | i don't mind how blizzard takes a long time |
| 06:32.10 | Diao | since they actually make the game fun/polished |
| 06:32.17 | Diao | no matter how much people whine, look how often people keep coming back |
| 06:32.33 | Diao | all these other games that were supposed to be "wow-killers" failed because they were pushed out for a release schedule rather than when they were ready |
| 06:33.19 | Aiiane | or were just crap games |
| 06:33.23 | Aiiane | but I digress |
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| 06:34.38 | Diao | lol |
| 06:34.55 | Diao | everyone i know except one that has quit wow has returned, including myself.. multiple times |
| 06:35.23 | Diao | and my one friend that quit wow permanently did so because he is now in medical school at johns hopkins, so he doesn't have time to play |
| 06:36.28 | Aiiane | Straight up though... Blizzard sometimes has innovative ideas, sometimes they just take the best parts of other games/addons and incorporate them... but they generally do it with a fair amount of polish |
| 06:37.06 | Moddington | they have the money to do it |
| 06:37.14 | Aiiane | indeed |
| 06:37.34 | Aiiane | I've seen a number of games that have neat ideas, but end up turning into crap due to having to meet publisher demands |
| 06:37.36 | Moddington | and Blizz is one of the few companies who can delay a release and not get murdered by their customers |
| 06:38.14 | CIA-57 | 03xinhuan * r80085 10BankItems/ (8 files): |
| 06:38.14 | CIA-57 | BankItems: |
| 06:38.14 | CIA-57 | - Fix errors resulting from the base UI code being rewritten to use locals and "self" arguments in WotLK. |
| 06:38.14 | CIA-57 | - Update BankItems version to 24002, this is usable in both live and WotLK beta realms. |
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| 06:41.26 | Moddington | "Druids and Shaman can now use items while shapeshifted." :P |
| 06:46.09 | kagaro | gathermate should now have all the zone data for northrend, ive finally scripted extracting the data |
| 06:47.48 | Moddington | lol, imp got buffed |
| 06:48.20 | Moddington | hmm, looks like all lock minions got buffed :( |
| 06:48.35 | Aiiane | pretty much |
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| 07:43.24 | Vilkku | hello peeps |
| 07:43.42 | Vilkku | as many people have uploaded their wotlk-compatible addons to the wowace svn now |
| 07:44.05 | Xinhuan | oh most work, but you have to use the ace2 or ace3 wotlk branches |
| 07:44.12 | Xinhuan | for the ace2/ace3 libraries |
| 07:44.48 | Vilkku | does using wowaceupdater automatically download those mods if you have set the wotlk beta as your install folder, or do you have to grab them manually? if so, how would I do it? opening the svn in an browser gives me the nice option of downloading each file separately |
| 07:44.50 | Xinhuan | unless the ace3 team added GetBuildInfo() checks to run different code depending on build number |
| 07:44.57 | Xinhuan | grab manually |
| 07:45.28 | Vilkku | what would be the easiest way? |
| 07:46.20 | Xinhuan | there is no easy way ;p |
| 07:46.43 | Xinhuan | since the required dependencies are all over the place |
| 07:47.15 | Xinhuan | for example, if you were to download gathermate now, it'll work in live, the code will work in wotlk, but it wont' work unless you have the wotlk version of ace3 |
| 07:47.42 | Vilkku | okey, let me rephrase |
| 07:48.06 | Vilkku | what should I use to get the files? using firefox sucks as I don't see a way to get all the files in one folder down at the same time |
| 07:49.40 | Xinhuan | the only way is to install a SVN client |
| 07:49.50 | Vilkku | getting warmer :P recommend me one |
| 07:50.11 | Xinhuan | tortoiseSVN is easy to use and integrates into the windows explorer shell if you want to use that |
| 07:50.27 | Vilkku | thanks |
| 07:50.30 | Vilkku | I'll try it out |
| 07:50.46 | Xinhuan | you'll probably need to spend 2 hours reading the manual first |
| 07:50.47 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 07:51.08 | Vilkku | another question, prat has a wotlk-3.0 branch and wotlk branch, happen to know which one is the latest? |
| 07:51.35 | Xinhuan | ask sylvanaar |
| 07:52.02 | Shirik | why not just look at the SVN logs? |
| 07:52.30 | Vilkku | Shirik: if you didn't read the discussion up to this point, I can tell you that SVN is nothing I really grasp |
| 07:52.39 | Shirik | you don't need to grasp it |
| 07:52.52 | Shirik | did wowace drop fisheye? |
| 07:53.03 | Xinhuan | yes i think Shirik |
| 07:53.07 | Shirik | sigh |
| 07:53.08 | JerleMinara | no? |
| 07:53.09 | Shirik | why :( |
| 07:53.16 | Shirik | where is it? |
| 07:53.19 | JerleMinara | http://fish.wowace.com/ |
| 07:53.20 | Xinhuan | kaelten shut it down due to overload or something i thought |
| 07:53.27 | Xinhuan | or maybe he brought it up again |
| 07:54.30 | CIA-57 | 03starlon * r80087 10StarTip/Modules/Bars.lua: StarTip: Add option for health bar color gradient |
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| 07:54.46 | dafire | hi |
| 07:55.10 | Shirik | oh my fishey is slow |
| 07:55.20 | Shirik | nothing like my server with 50 revisions >.> |
| 07:55.21 | JerleMinara | yes |
| 07:55.40 | JerleMinara | i've never quite understood why they put it all on one trunk |
| 07:55.54 | JerleMinara | instead of multiple repos o rsomehting |
| 07:56.03 | dafire | shouldn't a databroker addon contain callbackhandler and libstub ? |
| 07:56.11 | Vilkku | anyway, Shirik, thanks for pointing out the SVN log, now where do I find it? :P |
| 07:56.14 | Shirik | JerleMinara: This way, if you want every addon you could ever want |
| 07:56.22 | Shirik | You can just check out svn.wowace.com/trunk |
| 07:56.26 | Shirik | :D |
| 07:56.36 | Shirik | Vilkku: hang on |
| 07:56.45 | Shirik | I would have already told you except fisheye is taking 5 years to finish |
| 07:57.06 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:57.07 | Shirik | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/branches/Prat |
| 07:57.25 | Shirik | and now you see where you should pull from |
| 07:57.42 | sylvanaar | i have alot of branches |
| 07:57.45 | Shirik | looks like the /branches/prat/3.0/ folder |
| 07:58.08 | sylvanaar | what do you want Shirik |
| 07:58.14 | Shirik | sylvanaar: I especially like the "sylvannar" "sylvanaar2" and "sylvanaar3" branches |
| 07:58.20 | Shirik | Nothing but your undying love and affection |
| 07:59.21 | Vilkku | sylvanaar, I was wondering what branch to use as a wotlk user |
| 07:59.24 | Shirik | but Vilkku wanted Prat for wotlk :) |
| 07:59.28 | Shirik | and night |
| 07:59.35 | sylvanaar | theres a wotlk branch |
| 07:59.39 | Vilkku | noticed you had wotlk and wotlk-3.0 |
| 07:59.55 | Shirik|zZz | there's actually two, sylvanaar |
| 08:00.04 | sylvanaar | right, prat3 is another project |
| 08:00.21 | Vilkku | okey |
| 08:00.22 | Vilkku | thanks |
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| 08:04.56 | dafire | i hope svn externals are gone soon |
| 08:05.19 | JerleMinara | i've gotta dig into parrot tomorrow and update it for DKs i think |
| 08:06.40 | nymbia | dafire: why would they be? |
| 08:07.34 | dafire | nymbia, apparently some have problems setting them up... the .pkgmeta system curseforge is using is easier to use .9 |
| 08:08.39 | Arrowmaster | thats one thing i really dislike on curseforge though, if somebody wants to do an svn checkout they cant get externals automaticly |
| 08:09.09 | JerleMinara | what's the easiest way to find a list of all events or combat log events? |
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| 08:09.17 | JerleMinara | specifically in beta |
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| 08:09.45 | dafire | combatlog events.. with combatlog |
| 08:10.10 | dafire | events I guess with devtools |
| 08:10.54 | JerleMinara | oh wow. that's nice |
| 08:11.39 | Fisker- | nymbia my friend |
| 08:11.52 | dafire | there is a 2.4 devtools at wowi |
| 08:11.54 | Fisker- | i'm just kidding you are a terrible person ;( |
| 08:12.03 | nymbia | Fisker-: :( |
| 08:12.09 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:12.32 | dafire | looks like addonloader has the externals set, but the packager forgot to include them .9 |
| 08:12.35 | Xinhuan | u can try the sticky on wowace forums |
| 08:12.52 | Xinhuan | or just read thru the blizz combat log UI code |
| 08:12.56 | Xinhuan | it has handlers for everything |
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| 08:14.10 | dafire | hmm.. do externals work if there is no libs/ folder but they are set up to copy to it ? |
| 08:14.12 | Arrowmaster | dafire: where? |
| 08:14.30 | dafire | AddonLoader |
| 08:14.32 | Arrowmaster | and yes |
| 08:14.35 | Arrowmaster | on wowace? |
| 08:14.39 | dafire | yes |
| 08:14.54 | dafire | it misses libstub and callbackhandlerlib |
| 08:14.57 | Arrowmaster | are you downloading with an updater? |
| 08:15.01 | dafire | no |
| 08:15.15 | dafire | i just checked on files.wowace.com manually |
| 08:15.45 | Xinhuan | the wowace one isn't updated i believe |
| 08:15.57 | Arrowmaster | it should be |
| 08:16.00 | dafire | I checked with svnbrowser.. there are externals set |
| 08:16.23 | Xinhuan | i checkout from http://wow-addonloader.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/AddonLoader |
| 08:16.25 | clad|sleep | Funkeh`: i haven't tested anything in wotlk.. but which addon are you using for waypoints, or is it the actual hyperlink clicking? |
| 08:16.33 | Xinhuan | clad, is that the latest one? |
| 08:16.36 | clad|sleep | AddonLoader is updated on wowace now |
| 08:16.46 | clad|sleep | or at least, the wowace one should be up to date |
| 08:16.55 | dafire | clad|sleep, but callbackhandler and libstub are not packed |
| 08:16.56 | Xinhuan | but the true source should still be the google code one? |
| 08:17.12 | cladhaire | you'd have to ask [Ammo] he did the moving |
| 08:17.23 | cladhaire | you can just add the files if they need to be added, no one will mind :P |
| 08:17.27 | cladhaire | it was an oversight |
| 08:17.54 | Xinhuan | the code on googlecode doesn't reference callbacks |
| 08:17.56 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 08:18.13 | Arrowmaster | does the code on wowace? |
| 08:18.29 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 08:18.33 | cladhaire | oh |
| 08:18.35 | dafire | it contains libdatabroker |
| 08:18.37 | cladhaire | i may have misread dafire |
| 08:18.38 | Xinhuan | i've always assumed googlecode > wowace |
| 08:18.43 | Xinhuan | for addonloader |
| 08:18.51 | cladhaire | i dont know why ldb is in there, to be completely honest |
| 08:19.00 | cladhaire | you'll have to ask [Ammo] |
| 08:19.00 | dafire | LibStub http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/LibStub/1.0/ |
| 08:19.01 | dafire | CallbackHandler-1.0 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/CallbackHandler-1.0/ |
| 08:19.04 | dafire | ist set as externals |
| 08:19.06 | cladhaire | i'm not sure what the point of it being in there is. |
| 08:19.10 | dafire | but they are not included |
| 08:19.42 | cladhaire | as in not loaded? |
| 08:19.51 | dafire | as in not in the zip |
| 08:20.04 | cladhaire | who downloads zips? |
| 08:20.10 | dafire | mee for beta |
| 08:20.17 | cladhaire | i dont deal with the ace packager |
| 08:20.20 | cladhaire | haven't for two years |
| 08:20.23 | dafire | ^ |
| 08:20.28 | Arrowmaster | its moving at a crawl right now |
| 08:20.38 | Arrowmaster | which would be the problem |
| 08:20.40 | Arrowmaster | could |
| 08:20.53 | dafire | guess it's time to bury it soon .9 |
| 08:21.09 | Arrowmaster | it was running much faster the other week |
| 08:21.16 | JerleMinara | stupid question |
| 08:21.19 | Arrowmaster | something must be happening |
| 08:21.25 | JerleMinara | what the heck could _G refer to |
| 08:21.35 | Arrowmaster | global environment |
| 08:21.39 | cladhaire | getfenv(0) |
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| 08:21.42 | JerleMinara | hm |
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| 08:21.45 | cladhaire | lua> _G == getfenv(0) |
| 08:21.45 | lua_bot | cladhaire: true |
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| 08:22.00 | JerleMinara | local MANA = _G.MANA meaning what.. relying on the WoW localization of mana? |
| 08:22.13 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:22.18 | cladhaire | more importantly |
| 08:22.24 | cladhaire | making a local reference to the global variable "MANA" |
| 08:22.25 | dafire | the working symbolic links is the first thing I like on vista .) |
| 08:22.27 | cladhaire | which speeds up accessing it |
| 08:24.24 | JerleMinara | ok, fixed that bug. now to figure out where the "Blood Tree" aspam is coming from |
| 08:24.28 | dafire | cladhaire, whey do all curseforge git's end with mainline ? |
| 08:25.12 | dafire | it uses mainline as foldername then when i forget to add a name on clone .9 |
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| 08:26.40 | cladhaire | dafire: because its a git hosting standard |
| 08:26.42 | Arrowmaster | because thats how ckk wanted to set it up to mirror gitorious |
| 08:26.44 | cladhaire | you talk about the mainline repository |
| 08:26.54 | Xinhuan | if a wowace moderator is around, i've reported a couple of gold selling posts |
| 08:27.49 | cladhaire | damn someone got to the ban before id id |
| 08:27.53 | dafire | oh .. I only know github hosting that does it different... however it's not really of importance .9 |
| 08:27.55 | cladhaire | i only got to remove one of the topics |
| 08:28.11 | cladhaire | dafire: the repo has to be called something :P |
| 08:28.28 | Arrowmaster | well it doesnt have to |
| 08:28.40 | Arrowmaster | but because of the fork feature, it kinda does |
| 08:28.44 | dafire | on github it's git@github.com:dafire/closetgnome.git e.g. |
| 08:28.57 | dafire | if someone forks it gets his username .) |
| 08:29.04 | cladhaire | and on gitosis its mainline.git |
| 08:29.07 | cladhaire | and you can fork it with any name you want :P |
| 08:29.11 | cladhaire | which is much nicer |
| 08:29.14 | Arrowmaster | no thats gitorious |
| 08:29.19 | Arrowmaster | gitosis is different |
| 08:29.28 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 08:29.30 | cladhaire | i meant gitorious |
| 08:29.36 | dafire | but then you can't find forks that easy ;9 |
| 08:29.41 | cladhaire | on gitosis its whatever you want |
| 08:29.42 | Arrowmaster | yes you cant |
| 08:29.48 | cladhaire | dafire: except they're all linked from the main repo |
| 08:29.53 | Arrowmaster | they are all under the main projects namespace |
| 08:30.06 | dafire | github has that nice network graph thing.. I love it:) |
| 08:30.14 | cladhaire | gitorious is open source |
| 08:30.16 | cladhaire | sorry, it wins |
| 08:30.24 | cladhaire | i can run my own local installation of gitorious, and its damn easy to do os |
| 08:30.41 | cladhaire | an site about open source ,that's afraid to open source bothers me inherently |
| 08:30.49 | dafire | ok .. I didn't know it I just followed tekkub i guess .9 |
| 08:30.54 | cladhaire | :P |
| 08:31.02 | cladhaire | you can make your own decisions, but I feel I made good ones. |
| 08:31.23 | cladhaire | I dont like how the git repos are hidden on cf.. or at least I can never find a way to check them out as a confumer |
| 08:31.34 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 08:31.42 | Arrowmaster | cladhaire: thats only because nobody uses it yet |
| 08:31.56 | Arrowmaster | look at the cart3 page and it lists the public git url |
| 08:32.03 | dafire | I think it could use a code viewing feature.. like github .) |
| 08:32.28 | cladhaire | I _reallY- like the code views/diffs in gitorious |
| 08:32.42 | dafire | where can I see one ? .9 |
| 08:33.01 | Arrowmaster | *sigh* |
| 08:33.02 | cladhaire | mainline tree view |
| 08:33.02 | cladhaire | http://gitorious.org/projects/sputnik/repos/mainline/trees |
| 08:33.23 | Arrowmaster | why the FUCK does everybody that uses openid fail at the 2.0 spec |
| 08:33.29 | cladhaire | commit view |
| 08:33.29 | cladhaire | http://gitorious.org/projects/sputnik/repos/mainline/commits/1776bcd17dc52f10a0b1e3eb1456be6fb30be6fc |
| 08:33.47 | Arrowmaster | 'Sorry, but this does not appear to be a valid OpenID' |
| 08:33.52 | Arrowmaster | grrr |
| 08:34.08 | dafire | yes... it looks nice too |
| 08:34.41 | cladhaire | dafire: my point is |
| 08:34.45 | cladhaire | they could take the gitorious code and port it |
| 08:34.49 | cladhaire | because its available :P |
| 08:35.07 | dafire | what language is it written in ? |
| 08:35.12 | cladhaire | ruby |
| 08:35.52 | Arrowmaster | curseforge is all in python though |
| 08:35.58 | dafire | the rest of cf is python and forum is php .9 |
| 08:35.59 | cladhaire | _port_ |
| 08:36.06 | cladhaire | means taking one language and translating it to another |
| 08:36.10 | cladhaire | you can'gt do that with github |
| 08:36.14 | dafire | there is a really nice python library for code highlighting |
| 08:36.15 | cladhaire | because the source is nowhere |
| 08:36.52 | dafire | http://pygments.org/ |
| 08:37.52 | dafire | it even highlights brainfuck code :) |
| 08:38.13 | cladhaire | "there's a really nice python library for"... is a reasonably fair statement :P |
| 08:39.35 | JerleMinara | ok i must be completely retarded |
| 08:39.44 | JerleMinara | can anyone give me a hand trying to debug something with parrot real fast? |
| 08:40.24 | JerleMinara | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Parrot/WotLK/Code/Triggers.lua line 61 |
| 08:40.35 | dafire | where are my brothers from <Tainted and Secure> ? |
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| 08:41.46 | dafire | JerleMinara, whats wrong with it ? |
| 08:41.48 | JerleMinara | self.db.profiles.triggers is, according to the errors i'm getting, not set on line 1158. it is set at line 61 |
| 08:42.02 | JerleMinara | Message: ..\AddOns\Parrot\Code\Triggers.lua line 1144: |
| 08:42.02 | JerleMinara | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.12 | JerleMinara | is the error i'm getting trying to open the parrot config window in beta |
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| 08:42.35 | JerleMinara | yet it's very clearly being defined as a table and i have no idea why |
| 08:42.46 | Xinhuan | you probably need a copy of the wotlk Rock libraries |
| 08:43.04 | dafire | guess its a problem with Rock-Db |
| 08:43.06 | Xinhuan | rather than the live ones |
| 08:43.46 | JerleMinara | there's no rock branch |
| 08:44.22 | thul | meleebuuuuugger |
| 08:45.00 | Xinhuan | what's line 61 |
| 08:45.00 | dafire | Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:230: attempt to index local 'self' (a number value) |
| 08:45.00 | JerleMinara | the thing that's weird is i'm adding a little debug line up at the top of the "if not self.db.etc" line, and it fires. but adding in another check at the bottom of the OnEnable function doesn't fire |
| 08:45.00 | dafire | Is that a blizzard error or could it be triggered by an addon ? |
| 08:45.00 | Xinhuan | yeah dafire, blizz changed all their core code |
| 08:45.00 | dafire | I don't see an addon reference in the trace |
| 08:45.00 | Xinhuan | to add a "self" argument |
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| 08:45.04 | Arrowmaster | RockDB is fucked i think |
| 08:45.12 | Arrowmaster | i couldnt get it to save anything on beta |
| 08:45.13 | Xinhuan | so you need to adjust/acconut for it |
| 08:45.21 | Xinhuan | by passing in the frame as the first argument |
| 08:45.35 | dafire | I don't know what triggers the error :9 |
| 08:45.35 | JerleMinara | that's getting reverted I heard |
| 08:45.47 | Arrowmaster | what is? |
| 08:45.59 | JerleMinara | the frame (self, xxx) rather than (xx, self) |
| 08:46.02 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:46.07 | Xinhuan | nope, its intentional |
| 08:46.13 | Xinhuan | you have to update code |
| 08:46.18 | Arrowmaster | its never been (xx, self) anyway |
| 08:46.20 | JerleMinara | yeah i know, but i read they were switching it back |
| 08:46.24 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:46.28 | JerleMinara | hm. if you say so |
| 08:46.30 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, one of the functions does have (xx, self) |
| 08:46.36 | Xinhuan | now its (self, xx, yy) |
| 08:46.37 | Arrowmaster | yes slashcommands |
| 08:46.38 | Arrowmaster | thats it |
| 08:46.42 | Xinhuan | nope, not true |
| 08:46.50 | Xinhuan | its the UIDropDown_SetWidth() function ;p |
| 08:46.59 | Xinhuan | old is UIDropDown_SetWidth(width, frame) |
| 08:47.02 | Arrowmaster | oh thats not an api func but a framexml one |
| 08:47.12 | Xinhuan | new is UIDropDown_SetWidth(self, width, padding) |
| 08:47.30 | Maldivia | speaking of ui dropdown, hate the change to the call to the info.func function |
| 08:47.44 | Xinhuan | its just a small change |
| 08:47.49 | Xinhuan | just pass in an extra self argument |
| 08:47.52 | Xinhuan | and its fixed |
| 08:48.03 | Xinhuan | same for the scrollbar stuff |
| 08:48.19 | Arrowmaster | what scrollbar stuff? |
| 08:48.25 | Xinhuan | like editbox scrolling |
| 08:48.30 | Arrowmaster | did that change? |
| 08:48.32 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:48.39 | Xinhuan | they added self as first arg to all their functions |
| 08:48.45 | Xinhuan | so just need to add that in |
| 08:48.54 | JerleMinara | ah |
| 08:48.55 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: previously for the info.func, I'd do something like: info.func = self.function info.arg1 = self, info.arg2 = args |
| 08:48.58 | JerleMinara | i think i may know the issue |
| 08:48.58 | Arrowmaster | ok i dont think i commited anything to trunk to fix those errors |
| 08:49.00 | JerleMinara | fiddles |
| 08:49.12 | Xinhuan | you still can do that Maldivia |
| 08:49.14 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: but now func is called with func(self, arg1, arg2) |
| 08:49.19 | JerleMinara | there's a spell for mages that was in the trigger list |
| 08:49.21 | JerleMinara | that got removed |
| 08:49.25 | Xinhuan | the "self" passed in is the BUTTON being clicked on |
| 08:49.25 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: where self is the button |
| 08:49.27 | JerleMinara | it was failing so the whole table define failed |
| 08:49.48 | Xinhuan | so when you define your function, dont' use : notation |
| 08:49.50 | Xinhuan | use . notation |
| 08:49.51 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: yeah, so now I have to do info.func = function(...) self:func(...) end instead |
| 08:50.15 | Xinhuan | like function blah(button, self, arg1) |
| 08:50.23 | Xinhuan | and you can retain usage of self:blah() |
| 08:50.56 | Arrowmaster | im confused now |
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| 08:51.04 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: well, you'll still have to make an aditional function to accomplice the functionality of the previous |
| 08:51.19 | Xinhuan | how so |
| 08:51.22 | Arrowmaster | no you dont |
| 08:51.34 | Xinhuan | instead of myaddon:abc(arg1), its now myaddon.abc(button, self, arg1) |
| 08:51.44 | Maldivia | yeah ok |
| 08:52.04 | Xinhuan | and "self" as the 2nd arg would just be your addon object |
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| 08:52.49 | Maldivia | yeah, but still, it's annoying, and then you have to do self.abc(nil, self, arg1) or something, if you want to call it from elsewhere |
| 08:52.59 | Maldivia | instead of just self:abc(arg1) |
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| 08:54.15 | Xinhuan | you can't use nil as an identifier ;p |
| 08:54.54 | Maldivia | when calling, not when defining |
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| 09:00.52 | dafire | hmm. you can use that demon metamorphis spell to jump to places where you won't get without |
| 09:01.17 | erikh | time to nerf: 2 days |
| 09:03.39 | Vilkku | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4 |
| 09:03.50 | Vilkku | wrong channel, sorry, but enjoy |
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| 09:07.59 | thul | hmm, is it easiest to find groups as holy or prot pala from 60-70? |
| 09:11.49 | JerleMinara | oh what the hell |
| 09:12.05 | JerleMinara | the way cooldowl info comes in on dk runes is totally whacky |
| 09:12.17 | Arrowmaster | yes it is |
| 09:12.36 | JerleMinara | they send spell refreshes on all the abilities that use the rune, correct? |
| 09:13.08 | Arrowmaster | if you dont have the runes to use the ability then you get the cooldown spiner on the ability |
| 09:14.16 | dafire | server down .) |
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| 09:15.30 | Mytos | anyone know what the name of the chatmod that changes the tabs is named? |
| 09:15.35 | JerleMinara | well yeah that's not what I was referring to |
| 09:15.50 | JerleMinara | i mean event wise i'm trying to figure out why the hell parrot's telling me the whole Unholy Tree is available |
| 09:16.12 | Mytos | unholy tree? |
| 09:16.22 | Arrowmaster | because your out of unholy runes |
| 09:16.23 | JerleMinara | parrot's popping notifications |
| 09:16.35 | JerleMinara | except the notifications seem to occur when the rune comes back in |
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| 09:16.48 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 09:16.53 | Arrowmaster | just disable it for deathknights |
| 09:16.58 | JerleMinara | i'd rather fix it |
| 09:17.21 | Arrowmaster | you cant |
| 09:17.40 | Arrowmaster | because it will still say that the tree is unavailable everytime you run out of runes |
| 09:17.47 | Arrowmaster | instead of when you get spelllocked |
| 09:17.52 | Mytos | oh, deathknights, how are they panning out for pve? they gonna get stuck into a certain tree like every other hybrid until blizz decides they should have itemization? |
| 09:18.15 | cladhaire | they're itemization is uniform |
| 09:18.22 | cladhaire | so that won't make a difference really |
| 09:18.30 | Arrowmaster | (especially since afaik there arent any deathknight spells with a cast time that you would use incombat are their) |
| 09:18.38 | cladhaire | you have to consider the combat changes as well |
| 09:19.09 | Xinhuan | what gear does deathknight go for? gear with str and stam? |
| 09:19.11 | Mytos | i dunno, i didnt get a beta key and i havent read much into the new stuff, i did that for bc and couldnt force myself to go to raids anymore after knowing blues in underbog were better than tier1 |
| 09:19.39 | dafire | you will never play again if you look for gear that is worser then t1 |
| 09:20.07 | erikh | t1 was an 8 or 6pc set, can't remember |
| 09:20.13 | Arrowmaster | 8 |
| 09:20.18 | erikh | getting it fitted to 40 raiders was not something that happens quick. |
| 09:20.35 | Arrowmaster | 2 per kill |
| 09:20.51 | Arrowmaster | unlike the current 3 per in 25mans |
| 09:21.01 | dafire | in the beginning of bc when only 1 part droped for 25 it was slower |
| 09:21.09 | erikh | Arrowmaster: yeah, and 99% of it was shaman gear (in our alliance drops, at least) |
| 09:21.20 | erikh | it was a running joke for a while |
| 09:21.30 | dafire | only for 4 weeks |
| 09:21.31 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 09:21.41 | dafire | with 2.0 patch it could happen |
| 09:21.53 | erikh | pre-bc, shaman gear on alliance was useful to disenchant |
| 09:21.57 | erikh | not much else though. |
| 09:22.00 | erikh | earthfury set IIRC |
| 09:22.07 | Arrowmaster | it didnt drop before 2.0 for alliance |
| 09:22.17 | erikh | uh |
| 09:22.24 | dafire | pre-bc schaman set didn't drop for alliance until 4 week before the addon was released |
| 09:23.01 | Mytos | yea, the only way you could get shaman/pally gear for crossfaction before 2.0 was to get the dungeon sets |
| 09:23.16 | erikh | i seem to recall otherwise, but oh well |
| 09:23.18 | Mytos | my tauren warrior had full pally set lol |
| 09:23.22 | erikh | hah |
| 09:24.02 | JerleMinara | is there any easy way to override a blizzar ddefined framexml file without popping open a new ui just for it? |
| 09:24.07 | JerleMinara | err new addon |
| 09:24.10 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 09:24.16 | Xinhuan | blizzard UI is always loaded |
| 09:24.20 | Xinhuan | before any user addons |
| 09:24.36 | Xinhuan | the only overridable blizzard UIs are the ones in its own LoD blizzard addons |
| 09:24.43 | JerleMinara | bleh. |
| 09:24.49 | Xinhuan | i.e auction house, tradeskill, combatlog, etc |
| 09:25.20 | Arrowmaster | and the only way to override those is to replace the function that loads them, and hope that no other addon reqdep/optdeps them |
| 09:27.35 | Xinhuan | in most cases, many support addons DO reqdep them |
| 09:27.57 | Xinhuan | for eg, auctioneer can easily reqdep Blizzard_AuctionUI |
| 09:28.08 | Xinhuan | since its obviously a requirement |
| 09:28.28 | dafire | there is a special toc field for it |
| 09:28.33 | dafire | make it load on demand |
| 09:28.37 | dafire | and then LoadWith: |
| 09:28.56 | Xinhuan | LoadWith implies Optdep ;p |
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| 09:29.15 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
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| 09:29.42 | Arrowmaster | if you just use loadwith but not optdep, the addon can still load before the other afaik |
| 09:30.01 | dafire | well.. it won't load before the other is loaded |
| 09:30.03 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 09:30.08 | dafire | if you don't load it some other way |
| 09:30.59 | Arrowmaster | LoadWith doesnt imply LoD either |
| 09:31.26 | dafire | no but it don't make sense without |
| 09:31.32 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 09:31.51 | dafire | without lod the addon is always loaded |
| 09:31.53 | Arrowmaster | you can use it to tweak the loading order |
| 09:32.15 | dafire | I don't think so |
| 09:32.21 | Arrowmaster | you can, ive done it |
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| 09:34.55 | dafire | what is the difference to optinaldeps ? |
| 09:35.20 | dafire | regarding load order |
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| 09:36.02 | Arrowmaster | optdep just makes the listed mod load before the addon the optdep is set in |
| 09:36.37 | Arrowmaster | loadwith makes the addon its set in load after the listed mod before other stuff |
| 09:37.22 | dafire | hmm |
| 09:37.29 | dafire | k |
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| 09:38.19 | JerleMinara | hm |
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| 09:44.59 | dafire | spawn animations are new with lk, arnt't they ? |
| 09:45.15 | Maldivia | some mobs "fly in", if that's what you mean |
| 09:45.31 | dafire | the plaged mobs crawl out of the ground |
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| 09:45.51 | Maldivia | ahh yeah, that to |
| 09:46.03 | dafire | never noticed something before :9 |
| 09:49.55 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/mounts.jpg |
| 09:50.00 | Xinhuan | my FPS in IF is being killed |
| 09:50.10 | Xinhuan | 10 fps |
| 09:50.13 | Xinhuan | with 160 ppl in IF |
| 09:50.22 | Xinhuan | (right now, blackrock alliance) |
| 09:50.31 | Xinhuan | slaps Diao away with a large trout |
| 09:50.31 | Diao | sends a minion to take the slap. |
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| 09:55.02 | dafire | oh .. i think i found an exploitable bug .9 |
| 09:56.29 | Xinhuan | what does it do |
| 09:56.49 | dafire | let a warlock turn in demon form and keep his demon with him |
| 09:57.33 | dafire | yes.. reproducebale |
| 09:57.37 | cladhaire | nice |
| 09:57.59 | dafire | if you use the spell from mount you will turn into demon and then your pet spawn after that :) |
| 09:58.11 | dafire | *reporting* |
| 09:58.15 | Xinhuan | what do you gain from exploiting it ? |
| 09:58.20 | Xinhuan | more spell damage? |
| 09:58.47 | dafire | no .. normally the pet is dismissed while you are in demon form... |
| 09:58.49 | Diao | o: |
| 09:59.03 | dafire | you get a felguard fighting with you |
| 09:59.14 | dafire | and still have soullink and all advantages |
| 09:59.28 | _mytos | yea, thats op |
| 09:59.31 | dafire | so probably also more spelldamage.. which is transformed to attack power in demon form |
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| 10:00.55 | _mytos | how long does demon last |
| 10:01.44 | dafire | 45 seconds |
| 10:02.03 | dafire | ok .. without pet i get 1031 ap |
| 10:02.18 | dafire | it has some nice spells :9 |
| 10:02.25 | dafire | instant ae fear |
| 10:02.57 | dafire | a jump and some ae damage |
| 10:03.25 | _mytos | i dont think it should have a time limit, just make it a shapeshift type deal |
| 10:03.35 | _mytos | same for fire mage |
| 10:03.49 | dafire | that would make it overpowered.. or they would have to nerf it down |
| 10:04.49 | _mytos | so nerf it a little |
| 10:04.59 | _mytos | they wouldnt have to nerf it much i dont think |
| 10:05.42 | dafire | sure... they would have to make the cooldowns of all abilitys higher so you cant jump and ae fear all the time |
| 10:06.01 | chexsum | pallys keep illing me on beta :( |
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| 10:06.05 | _mytos | well yea |
| 10:06.05 | chexsum | killing |
| 10:06.45 | _mytos | but i think that locks are getting jypped not getting a new pet, they might as well make it better than just another cooldown to pop every 5 mins or wahtever |
| 10:07.24 | dafire | every 2 |
| 10:07.58 | dafire | with longer cooldowns the form would not be fun at all |
| 10:08.11 | dafire | you can't do much with it when the spells are on cooldown |
| 10:08.30 | dafire | ok the cooldown is 3 min so you have to wait 2:15 |
| 10:08.39 | dafire | I think it's ok how it is now |
| 10:09.28 | dafire | they won't give us the 360% armor and stuff all the time |
| 10:09.29 | Kuja^ | does anyone have a clue how that strings have to look like when using a german client? http://ace.pastey.net/93430 |
| 10:09.31 | JerleMinara | jesus christ |
| 10:09.31 | _mytos | i dunno, it just seems to me that most other dps is getting shorthanded compared to what fury warriors are getting |
| 10:09.55 | JerleMinara | i don't know who got high when they designed how they were gonna handle DK abilities at a ui level |
| 10:10.00 | JerleMinara | but they were smoking serious dope |
| 10:10.31 | _mytos | hows that? |
| 10:11.04 | JerleMinara | just the way the rune stuff works is annoying and leads to really bizarre quirks |
| 10:11.31 | _mytos | yeah, i heard that the talent that refeshes runes in the one tree is more of an annoyance than a help |
| 10:11.43 | JerleMinara | no, not that, i'm talking background stuff |
| 10:11.58 | _mytos | what do you mean? |
| 10:11.58 | JerleMinara | like for some reason, the game'll just believe that any ability using ab lood rune has refresh |
| 10:11.59 | JerleMinara | ed |
| 10:12.16 | JerleMinara | sometimes when I regain a blood rune, the client just says "oh hey everything that uses blood is now available" |
| 10:12.18 | _mytos | hmm |
| 10:12.27 | JerleMinara | even if the ability, well, isn't |
| 10:13.01 | JerleMinara | can't explain it really well, i've built a couple changes into parrot and whipped up a little addon to track the way rune events fire and it's just.. bleh |
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| 10:13.57 | _mytos | whats the beta system like, if i get a key and i dont have a 70 warrior on that account, do i have to level a warrior 1-80 or is there a premade character setup? |
| 10:14.12 | dafire | no premades |
| 10:14.12 | JerleMinara | you don't get to playa warrior |
| 10:14.19 | JerleMinara | it's either dk or transfer |
| 10:14.47 | _mytos | if ive got multiple accounts can i transfer from more than one? my druid/lock are on different accounts than my warrior/mage |
| 10:14.53 | dafire | no |
| 10:14.59 | _mytos | whacked |
| 10:15.02 | dafire | only if you get more beta keys .9 |
| 10:15.15 | _mytos | i really wanna mess with warriors and druids |
| 10:15.22 | dafire | or you transfer your chars to that account ;) |
| 10:15.40 | _mytos | you guys have a warrior? lol, i wanna get some info about titangrip lol |
| 10:15.46 | JerleMinara | here, check this out |
| 10:16.00 | JerleMinara | http://img.waffleimages.com/c9f03f17c03a82a56aca4dcc0bb7580e45c87e6e/WoWScrnShot_081008_031504.jpg |
| 10:16.05 | JerleMinara | note the chat window |
| 10:16.27 | JerleMinara | 03:14:16.. I get a new blood rune |
| 10:16.40 | _mytos | so it spews that everytime a rune refreshes? |
| 10:16.46 | JerleMinara | no, that's part of my stuff |
| 10:16.49 | dafire | only with devtools |
| 10:17.01 | JerleMinara | nah even with it, i've modified a few things |
| 10:17.09 | JerleMinara | parrot's got a good hook into cooldown tracking |
| 10:17.18 | JerleMinara | the game, specifically GetSpellCooldown, basically wigs out and believes my abilities are ready |
| 10:17.20 | JerleMinara | when i get a rune back |
| 10:17.25 | dafire | looks like i have to learn herbalism on life ... I hate that :( |
| 10:17.33 | ThiefMaster | anyone here using clique? i'm having an odd problem with it: i cannot click any of the buttons in the clique config window and a GetMouseFocus():GetName() on them only shows the CliqueFrame |
| 10:17.46 | ThiefMaster | however, using lua to click them works fine.. |
| 10:17.53 | cladhaire | ThiefMaster: are you running DHud |
| 10:17.55 | _mytos | whats the blue/red skulls at the top of your bars? deathknight version of auras/stances? |
| 10:17.59 | ThiefMaster | no |
| 10:18.04 | cladhaire | or something else that is altering the frame level of the spellbook? |
| 10:18.10 | cladhaire | inevitable something fucked the framelevel of your spellbook |
| 10:18.24 | ThiefMaster | hm a reloadui fixed it |
| 10:18.24 | ThiefMaster | odd |
| 10:19.24 | _mytos | either of you guys have a warrior with beta key? |
| 10:20.18 | JerleMinara | ok |
| 10:20.22 | JerleMinara | found the bug in blizzard's code :P |
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| 10:37.58 | JerleMinara | i honestly don't know how i'm going to fix cooldown tracking for DKs |
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| 11:01.46 | Mera | someone know other site like wowcompares.com but with more compare function |
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| 11:03.54 | CIA-57 | 03ominous * r80094 10ClassTimer/Bars/ (Paladin.lua Warlock.lua): ClassTimer: Added Seed of corruption for warlocks and Vengeance for pallys as per Nirek's request |
| 11:14.38 | cladhaire | Mera: .. what more do you want? |
| 11:15.14 | Mera | nvm didnt figured out there is a link to show diff :x |
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| 11:18.57 | CIA-57 | 03kuja * r80095 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP-deDE.lua MorgDKP-enUS.lua): |
| 11:18.57 | CIA-57 | MorgDKP: deDE overhaul (some bossevents are missing, could need help |
| 11:18.57 | CIA-57 | with that) and small enUS fixup |
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| 11:23.17 | Maelos | Noticed several mods have wotlk branches. Any way to point at branches with the updater? |
| 11:24.26 | ashb | not sure if this has been fixed already |
| 11:24.29 | ashb | but AceHook-3.0 |
| 11:24.49 | ashb | if checks for obj:IsProtected() before it checks for obj being non-nil |
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| 11:36.18 | thul | hmm, I'm lvl 69 shaman... elemental restoration or enhancement for instance (and pvp) -> 70? |
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| 11:43.23 | orionshock | anyone know what branch folder has sylv's WotLK stuff in it? |
| 11:43.31 | orionshock | there is ~3 of them that it could be |
| 11:55.47 | orionshock | wtb guild invite, US-PvE-Horde, Atradies |
| 11:55.49 | orionshock | ;D |
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| 12:12.04 | orionshock | ok, dumb question, im at org, how do i get to northrind? |
| 12:13.56 | Tigerdyr | walk? :) |
| 12:14.12 | Zyndrome | whistle for a cab |
| 12:14.36 | Tigerdyr | As the friendly neighbourhood warlock for a spidery summon? |
| 12:14.49 | Tigerdyr | or perhaps .. eh, isn't that from IF there's a birdie? |
| 12:20.06 | cladhaire | do you get your mount at 30 now |
| 12:20.10 | cladhaire | or is that beta? |
| 12:21.31 | Pneumatus | its on live now i believe |
| 12:21.38 | orionshock | cladhaire: it's on live, last patch |
| 12:21.41 | cladhaire | cool! |
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| 12:25.12 | Funkeh` | is player auras changed completely gone |
| 12:25.15 | Funkeh` | in wotlk |
| 12:26.38 | nevcairiel | its all in unit_aura now, iir |
| 12:26.40 | nevcairiel | *iirc |
| 12:26.43 | cladhaire | this has been posted in the 3.0 changes thread |
| 12:30.54 | Funkeh` | cladhaire, oh really? Point me to where it says they removed that event |
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| 12:31.47 | cladhaire | it doesn't say that exactly |
| 12:31.55 | cladhaire | but with teh API change, one would expect it to change |
| 12:32.16 | Funkeh` | no, not really |
| 12:32.32 | cladhaire | why? |
| 12:32.38 | cladhaire | there is no more GetPlayerBuff |
| 12:32.40 | Funkeh` | why would I want 2x unit auras events over 1x unit aura and 1x player auras changed |
| 12:32.44 | Funkeh` | it was there for a reason |
| 12:32.51 | Funkeh` | it has nothing to do with get player buff |
| 12:32.54 | cladhaire | check the args? |
| 12:33.06 | Funkeh` | eh? of what? |
| 12:33.13 | cladhaire | nevemind |
| 12:33.31 | cladhaire | why isnt' UNIT_AURA with an argcheck sufficient for what you want? |
| 12:34.30 | cladhaire | My point was, the API no longer distinguishes between "player auras" and "unit auras" |
| 12:35.01 | Funkeh` | unit aura fires wayyyy more than player auras changed. Even twice per buff/debuff. |
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| 12:35.25 | cladhaire | yes, but you can check which argument it is, and bail out.. this costs almost nothing |
| 12:35.33 | Funkeh` | Now I need a function with a unit check which will fire even more that player auras changed would and I didn't need a unit check |
| 12:35.38 | cladhaire | and the API no longer distinguishes between the two |
| 12:35.40 | cladhaire | well |
| 12:35.41 | cladhaire | again |
| 12:35.42 | cladhaire | the API changed |
| 12:35.47 | cladhaire | that's all I ever said |
| 12:35.49 | cladhaire | and it makes sense |
| 12:35.55 | cladhaire | if the client no longer distinguishes between the two |
| 12:35.59 | Funkeh` | I disagree to be quite frank |
| 12:36.05 | cladhaire | grats! |
| 12:36.05 | Funkeh` | it has nothing to do with getting buffs |
| 12:36.11 | Funkeh` | I in no way use that function in my adon |
| 12:36.29 | cladhaire | you clearly aren't listening, so that's fine. |
| 12:37.03 | Funkeh` | cladhaire, yeah, clearly |
| 12:37.16 | Funkeh` | I'm the one that started with rtfl when you clearly didn't |
| 12:37.17 | nevcairiel | I'm confused, why not just check UNIT_AURA arg1 for "player" and be done with it? |
| 12:37.26 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: he can, eh's just bitching. |
| 12:37.28 | cladhaire | if the client doesn't distinguish between them anymore.. then yes you will need to make this change to your addon. |
| 12:37.39 | cladhaire | because he doesn't seem to grok the fact that the way the data is represented and called back int he client has obviously changed |
| 12:37.40 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, I have a function checking for power ups which has several events registered |
| 12:37.43 | cladhaire | as evidenced by the API change |
| 12:37.48 | cladhaire | which was my whole damn point |
| 12:37.54 | Funkeh` | it had no arg checking at all |
| 12:37.59 | nevcairiel | so your design fails |
| 12:38.00 | Funkeh` | so now it just complicates things |
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| 12:38.03 | nevcairiel | its not our fault |
| 12:38.17 | Funkeh` | Uh, how is it a design problem? |
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| 12:38.26 | Funkeh` | Also, are you blizz? ;p |
| 12:38.34 | nevcairiel | if your function is not prepared to check arg1 on the event, its a design flaw |
| 12:38.43 | Funkeh` | No, it doesn't need to |
| 12:38.51 | Funkeh` | All the events were player specific |
| 12:39.01 | nevcairiel | well now it does |
| 12:39.01 | Funkeh` | (It's a player specific addon) |
| 12:39.02 | Ellipsis | good morning friendly people of wowace! |
| 12:39.03 | nevcairiel | live iwth it =P |
| 12:39.07 | cladhaire | Ellipsis: morning! |
| 12:39.10 | nevcairiel | morning Ellipsis |
| 12:39.14 | Funkeh` | I'd rather just make a post on US |
| 12:39.25 | cladhaire | ... |
| 12:39.28 | cladhaire | you really don't listen do you |
| 12:39.37 | nevcairiel | yeah lets make them bend the API to your needs rather then adding 2 lines of code |
| 12:39.45 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 12:39.52 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, Um, why remove something that worked fine with no reason? |
| 12:40.02 | cladhaire | BECAUSE |
| 12:40.05 | cladhaire | as ive' said four time |
| 12:40.07 | nevcairiel | Only because you dont know the reason doesnt make it "no reason" |
| 12:40.11 | cladhaire | the entire way the buffs are represented internally has changed |
| 12:40.16 | cladhaire | AS EVIDENCED by the fucking API change |
| 12:40.18 | cladhaire | if you stop dismissing me |
| 12:40.20 | cladhaire | and fucking listen |
| 12:40.20 | Funkeh` | It has been there for 2 years |
| 12:40.22 | cladhaire | it makes sense |
| 12:40.28 | Funkeh` | and so has the player buf api |
| 12:40.31 | cladhaire | yes |
| 12:40.32 | cladhaire | and they've changed |
| 12:40.36 | cladhaire | suck the fuck up and deal |
| 12:40.44 | Funkeh` | enough of the language please |
| 12:41.03 | nevcairiel | thats the lamest excuse i ever heard, the even has been there for 2 years, they cant take it away now!!111 |
| 12:41.06 | cladhaire | clearly.. the way the buffs are represented internally has changed |
| 12:41.06 | Funkeh` | I'm debating here no need for you to get so frustrated |
| 12:41.08 | nevcairiel | *event |
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| 12:41.12 | cladhaire | Funkeh`: excuse me? |
| 12:41.15 | cladhaire | i answered you 20 minutes ago |
| 12:41.19 | cladhaire | you're beign a pita and nothing more |
| 12:41.24 | cladhaire | you dismissed my "the api changed" |
| 12:41.24 | cladhaire | btu |
| 12:41.26 | sb | morning |
| 12:41.27 | cladhaire | why does the API change |
| 12:41.28 | Funkeh` | No, you didn't, you gave me a rtfm which was wrong |
| 12:41.30 | Funkeh` | you see |
| 12:41.35 | cladhaire | because the client changes the way the stuff is handled internally |
| 12:41.36 | Funkeh` | merging 2 functions was sensible |
| 12:41.39 | Funkeh` | getplayerbuff etc |
| 12:41.47 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 12:41.48 | Funkeh` | but these things have nothing to do with the events |
| 12:41.51 | cladhaire | and they just did it for shits and giggles |
| 12:41.52 | cladhaire | yes they do |
| 12:41.53 | cladhaire | wow |
| 12:41.54 | cladhaire | okay |
| 12:41.55 | Funkeh` | that's what I'm trying to tell you |
| 12:42.05 | cladhaire | the API has to do with the events |
| 12:42.09 | Funkeh` | No, they do NOT have to be related |
| 12:42.10 | cladhaire | because there is this cool layer beneath it |
| 12:42.21 | cladhaire | and if that layer beneath no longer distinguishes between player and unit buffs |
| 12:42.26 | cladhaire | then bam, api and events changed |
| 12:42.27 | cladhaire | done and done |
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| 12:46.06 | cladhaire | the event hasn't actually been _removed_, as in you can still register for it |
| 12:46.12 | cladhaire | however the Blizzard code no longer uses it in any way |
| 12:46.21 | cladhaire | so I wouldn't expect it to fire, as you've observed. |
| 12:46.25 | nevcairiel | And i though your could register for any dummy events |
| 12:46.29 | cladhaire | no |
| 12:46.35 | cladhaire | you can't. |
| 12:46.45 | cladhaire | that's how I identify which events the client recognized and which they don't. |
| 12:46.57 | cladhaire | the API won't error or show you that its failing |
| 12:47.06 | cladhaire | but you can distinguish between a real event and a dummy event. |
| 12:50.34 | nevcairiel | hm so with the new calendar, does it get the current date from the client, or did they expose server date now? |
| 12:52.11 | thul | http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs32/i/2008/223/2/d/Concert_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
| 12:53.18 | orionshock | NICE, they fixed maim, it's now a proper stun effect |
| 12:55.47 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: +"CalendarGetDate", |
| 12:56.01 | cladhaire | dunno if that does it :P |
| 12:57.12 | nevcairiel | well it returns a full date |
| 12:57.22 | Pneumatus | CalendarGetDate returns the current date by the looks of it |
| 12:57.29 | Pneumatus | 1, 8, 10, 2008 |
| 12:57.38 | nevcairiel | if its server date, that will make some of the guys writing distributed databases happy |
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| 12:57.47 | Lyn_ | arena q in nagrand with 50 ghouls is nice |
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| 13:00.14 | orionshock | is wrong |
| 13:00.20 | orionshock | oh so very wrong |
| 13:01.17 | orionshock | @ nevcairiel i run a distributed db in guildcraft, i just use date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") |
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| 13:01.29 | orionshock | works fine for me :D |
| 13:01.32 | nevcairiel | well that fails if a client tampers with his date |
| 13:01.45 | orionshock | this is true |
| 13:01.57 | nevcairiel | or time even |
| 13:02.01 | nevcairiel | which isnt that uncommon |
| 13:02.07 | nevcairiel | alot of people run weird clocks |
| 13:02.14 | Funkeh` | what about day |
| 13:02.18 | Funkeh` | as in tuesday |
| 13:02.20 | dafire | you could check that with sending time over chat |
| 13:03.28 | orionshock | actualy the way i use that, it works fine, because the user has complete control over his own data, so it's not really an issue :\ |
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| 13:15.22 | Trell_ | DK players, whats the most bloodworms you've ever had at once |
| 13:15.27 | Trell_ | obviously, in crowded mob areas |
| 13:16.18 | sb | i dont count them :p |
| 13:17.46 | Lyn_ | Trell_, thought the are limited by maximum of 5? |
| 13:18.04 | Trell_ | no way |
| 13:18.05 | cladhaire | Trell_: I've had 15-20 |
| 13:18.07 | Trell_ | I just had about 20 |
| 13:18.11 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 13:18.15 | Lyn_ | uh |
| 13:18.15 | Lyn_ | nice |
| 13:18.17 | cladhaire | I had a REALLy good one once |
| 13:18.17 | Trell_ | was spamming death strikes to see how many I could get |
| 13:18.23 | Lyn_ | had just about 100 ghouls :x |
| 13:18.25 | Trell_ | then I ran out of mobs :( |
| 13:18.57 | Trell_ | yeah Lyn_: I just saw someone run by me with about 20 ghouls up :P |
| 13:19.00 | Trell_ | whats that talent? |
| 13:19.01 | sb | Trell_: lots of ghouls is better: http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080908195137da2.jpg :p |
| 13:19.17 | sb | its like 40 * 3 |
| 13:19.23 | nuoHep | nevcairiel, its a server date by the looks of it. this night I was doing the quest for northrend flying and it was still 9th august in the calendar. while it was around 3:20 10th for me already |
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| 13:20.20 | chexsum | gmt time maybe ? |
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| 13:21.14 | Trell_ | I still prefer lots of bloodworms |
| 13:21.22 | Lyn_ | Trell_, it called bug :o |
| 13:21.25 | Trell_ | so much healzz :P |
| 13:21.36 | Lyn_ | had done arena q in nagrand with 300 ghouls |
| 13:21.43 | Lyn_ | in group |
| 13:21.58 | nuoHep | Im gmt +3 and stayed till 4. maybe little bit longer. it still was 9th |
| 13:22.33 | Lyn_ | sb, what unitframe is that? and nice, saw kusko currently xD |
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| 13:24.27 | Lyn_ | *recently |
| 13:24.29 | sb | Lyn_: agUF |
| 13:24.43 | Lyn_ | nice |
| 13:24.44 | Lyn_ | thanks |
| 13:26.04 | Lyn_ | sb, could i ask you... which server do you play on live? |
| 13:26.36 | sb | EU-Khaz'Goroth |
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| 13:26.56 | Lyn_ | ha, me too |
| 13:27.23 | Trell_ | heh, critters can spawn bloodworms |
| 13:27.41 | Lyn_ | then i know who you are... priest sitting before scryers bank =) |
| 13:27.55 | sb | yep :p |
| 13:28.12 | Lyn_ | :) |
| 13:28.12 | Xinhuan | o_o |
| 13:30.32 | sb | Lyn_: Kusko and Schwarz are also from khaz |
| 13:30.49 | Lyn_ | yeah, spoke with kusko... thats why i know who you are *g* |
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| 13:31.15 | Lyn_ | next time when you sit before the bank... i'll greet you with my shammy, so you know who i am :p |
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| 13:32.25 | Lyn_ | sb, is schwarz "Schwarzfaust" on live? |
| 13:33.27 | Ellipsis | zomgstalker |
| 13:33.28 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 13:33.58 | Lyn_ | no |
| 13:34.04 | Lyn_ | i just know schwarzfaust from vanilla wow |
| 13:34.13 | Lyn_ | when he played alliance with his dwarf |
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| 13:34.53 | sb | yup, baron mount :p |
| 13:35.15 | Lyn_ | yes, we were in the same raid group |
| 13:37.50 | whizter | can someone help me with SKG? I can't find the security panel, sync panel, admin bid panel etc. everything you need to access for administration.. |
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| 13:38.51 | whizter | all I can access is bidding, options and help |
| 13:40.08 | Xinhuan | points at Zhinjio |
| 13:40.10 | Xinhuan | ask him |
| 13:42.37 | whizter | ok |
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| 13:51.25 | kagaro | anyone in starting dk area right now ? |
| 13:52.58 | fewyn | i finished that up last night kagaro |
| 13:53.24 | kagaro | wanted to see what IsInInstance() returns, i cant login atm |
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| 14:00.54 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.20 | YammYgirlcoding | =^^= |
| 14:01.22 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all |
| 14:04.49 | cncfanatics | lol at the nickname |
| 14:04.55 | YammYgirlcoding | =^^= |
| 14:06.23 | Ellipsis | you're coding a girl? how's she coming? |
| 14:06.55 | YammYgirlcoding | hehe |
| 14:07.26 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis, it's.. you |
| 14:07.40 | YammYgirlcoding | rofl. now you made me realize that i should have put YammYcodinggirl |
| 14:08.08 | YammYgirlcoding | or not |
| 14:08.12 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`: Error, input not recognized. Abort/Retry/Ignore? |
| 14:09.01 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis, retry |
| 14:09.04 | Pneumatus | has the eu beta login server crapped it? |
| 14:09.29 | Ellipsis | Ellipsis.exe has encountered an error and needs to close. We aren't very sorry for the inconvenience. |
| 14:10.26 | kenlyric | has retry ever worked? |
| 14:11.08 | Lukian | has once or twice for me :D |
| 14:11.25 | Lukian | usually after cleaning the floppy though |
| 14:11.35 | Lukian | and by cleaning, I mean shaking |
| 14:15.46 | sacarasc | Dave2: also here |
| 14:15.48 | Lyn_ | login dead? |
| 14:15.58 | Dave2 | I never try in here! |
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| 14:18.38 | binder | darnnit |
| 14:18.53 | binder | my last button in autobar got stuck uncollapsed again :( |
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| 14:25.55 | fewyn | hmm |
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| 14:26.01 | fewyn | should i redo my UI on live... |
| 14:26.04 | fewyn | ponders |
| 14:28.59 | sb | nah, wait till wotlk release |
| 14:29.15 | fewyn | that's still 4-6 months away tho! |
| 14:29.30 | fewyn | I'm already fooling around with my ui on beta |
| 14:29.53 | fewyn | just cant stand the default ui |
| 14:32.53 | sacarasc | i'm used to the default ui |
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| 14:52.56 | Matrix110 | awesome when addons dont work because of some translation fuckup when you are using enGB |
| 14:54.41 | Ellipsis | mumbles something about the fail that is localization |
| 14:55.12 | Xinhuan | time to copy blizzard's advertising methods |
| 14:55.40 | Xinhuan | implementing "Recruit-A-Healer" for my guild, recruit a healer that joins for at least 2 months with 70% attendance, and earn 5k gold! |
| 14:56.01 | Pneumatus | 70% :< |
| 14:56.59 | Matrix110 | Can somebody please tell the russian translators to only translate if the addon actually works? |
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| 14:58.58 | Fisker- | i'd hit it Xinhuan |
| 15:00.55 | Lyn_ | is there a way to move the standard blizzard FCT? |
| 15:02.10 | sb | mh get MSBT |
| 15:02.20 | Lyn_ | no other way? |
| 15:02.20 | sb | i dont think you can move blizz thingie |
| 15:02.28 | Lyn_ | hm... :x |
| 15:02.28 | Matrix110 | you can |
| 15:02.34 | Lyn_ | how? |
| 15:02.40 | Matrix110 | there is a mod to "configure" the Blizzard FCT |
| 15:02.47 | Lyn_ | name? |
| 15:02.50 | Matrix110 | dont think it works by default |
| 15:02.55 | Matrix110 | no idea |
| 15:03.01 | Matrix110 | search on Curse/WoWI :P |
| 15:03.04 | Matrix110 | and files ofc |
| 15:03.05 | Lyn_ | -_- |
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| 15:25.54 | Matrix110 | BigWigs still broken I just revert-.- |
| 15:26.02 | Matrix110 | retarted translators |
| 15:26.03 | Matrix110 | die |
| 15:26.26 | Funkeh` | helpful |
| 15:27.47 | Matrix110 | Well the enabling doesnt work |
| 15:27.55 | Matrix110 | Target boss = nothing happens |
| 15:28.03 | Funkeh` | error? |
| 15:28.27 | Matrix110 | at Najentus I had a error about "start_trigger" translation missing but thats gone after updating |
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| 15:29.20 | Matrix110 | the whole Black Temple module seems borked |
| 15:29.26 | Matrix110 | cant manually enable bosses |
| 15:29.48 | Matrix110 | oh wait now its there |
| 15:32.16 | Matrix110 | it seems the BT module wasnt properly loaded |
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| 15:50.49 | Mera | yep live since 2.4.3 |
| 15:51.54 | Xinhuan | kicks CIA-45 |
| 15:51.55 | CIA-45 | ow |
| 15:57.09 | Fisker- | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
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| 16:18.34 | Silviu- | ping ag` ;p |
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| 16:20.12 | [W]Ziablik | Hi all, is there any addon list working in woltk? |
| 16:21.41 | Ellipsis | all the ones which don't crash the game or throw errors |
| 16:21.42 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 16:22.48 | fewyn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WotLK_AddOn_status |
| 16:23.17 | [W]Ziablik | ty |
| 16:28.16 | Matrix110 | that list is not entirely correct though |
| 16:28.36 | fewyn | it isn't? everything i used on the list so far is correct |
| 16:29.07 | Matrix110 | well the addon is working and gives no errors at startup |
| 16:29.13 | Fisker- | ~cartographer3 |
| 16:29.13 | purl | from memory, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 16:30.08 | fewyn | "the addon" |
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| 16:31.21 | Matrix110 | ag_unitframes |
| 16:31.26 | Matrix110 | (the branch version) |
| 16:31.32 | Matrix110 | from nevcairiel |
| 16:31.36 | Matrix110 | it doesnt update mana correct! |
| 16:31.59 | Matrix110 | and has errors on partyjoins/leaves sometimes |
| 16:32.34 | fewyn | well then edit the wiki and say it doesn't work totally? |
| 16:33.07 | fewyn | that's the wonderus ability of the wiki |
| 16:33.10 | Matrix110 | well |
| 16:33.20 | Matrix110 | it has pretty much the same bugs on live |
| 16:33.33 | Matrix110 | so its not wotlk relevant besides the mana updating |
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| 16:44.49 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: I'd say that list refers to Mohktar's version of ag_UF, hosted on wowi. |
| 16:45.09 | Gnarfoz | that works fine, but as usual someone had to do it again, "because the code sucks" :p |
| 16:45.16 | Gnarfoz | (with worse results, as you seem to be reporting) |
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| 16:46.53 | Ackis | Moddington_: alberta? |
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| 16:53.49 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 16:54.19 | fewyn | anyone get the issue when switching back and forth between live and beta that it goes "Hardware has changed. Do you want to reset to defaults?" |
| 16:54.26 | Zhinjio | G'morning Ackis |
| 16:54.43 | Silviu- | fewyn yep |
| 16:55.34 | cncfanatics | fewyn: yep |
| 16:55.48 | fewyn | ok |
| 16:55.50 | fewyn | so not just me |
| 16:56.21 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 16:56.54 | Hjalte | Bah at the EU Beta World Server. Bah! |
| 16:58.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | Lol, it put me right next to the quest giver, having completed the quest in another area :) |
| 17:02.49 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: how're you? |
| 17:03.06 | Ellipsis | pretty good |
| 17:03.11 | Zhinjio | awesome. |
| 17:03.13 | Ellipsis | putting together a shiny new computer \o/ |
| 17:03.20 | Zhinjio | ooooo! |
| 17:03.24 | Zhinjio | thats always fun. |
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| 17:05.08 | sb | Ellipsis: same here - but only the theory-part :p |
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| 17:05.24 | sb | dont know which mainboard i should take |
| 17:05.52 | sb | thinking about GigaByte GA-EP45-DS(2-5) - but not sure :/ |
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| 17:10.54 | Silviu- | Or Msi P45 Neo3 Fr |
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| 17:14.06 | Silviu- | Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R or MSI P45 Neo3 FR |
| 17:14.15 | Silviu- | Say the rest of components tho` |
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| 17:15.39 | Fisker- | nymbia is my bestest friend |
| 17:16.00 | Xinhuan | for a moment |
| 17:16.09 | Xinhuan | that looked like l337 sp34k to me |
| 17:20.33 | nymbia | Fisker-: <3 |
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| 17:22.22 | Fisker- | :) |
| 17:23.07 | Ellipsis | I want a bestest friend :( |
| 17:24.51 | nymbia | Ellipsis: well, Fisker-'s weakness seems to be people who disappear for a while, so you could try that ;) |
| 17:25.05 | Ellipsis | hmm... |
| 17:25.15 | Ellipsis | casts Vanish |
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| 17:28.06 | Fisker- | Ellipsis my bestestest friend |
| 17:29.06 | nymbia | kicks CIA-45 |
| 17:29.07 | CIA-45 | ow |
| 17:29.08 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 17:30.50 | Fisker- | ya rly |
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| 17:36.54 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 17:37.08 | fewyn | the ace3 wotlk branch breaks all my addons |
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| 17:44.45 | Maytrix | hello |
| 17:45.20 | Maytrix | any of you lua gurus answer a couple questions for me? |
| 17:45.32 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 17:45.32 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 17:46.42 | Maytrix | ok am writting a module for closetgnome and am not sure if this is alimitation on it or the event I am trying to hook to cause closetgnome to switch sets on cursor_update, the issue is it keeps hanging the ui when it makes the set switch |
| 17:47.45 | nymbia | you're hooking part of the switch? |
| 17:48.09 | Maytrix | here is the code I am using for the switch |
| 17:48.12 | Maytrix | function ClosetGnomeGatherer:CURSOR_UPDATE() |
| 17:48.13 | Maytrix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.13 | Maytrix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.13 | Maytrix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.13 | Maytrix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.13 | Maytrix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.15 | Maytrix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.17 | Maytrix | end |
| 17:48.56 | Maytrix | what happens is it makes the siwtch hangs the ui forcing me to fore wow closed, when i log back in the switch did take place |
| 17:49.32 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 17:49.33 | nymbia | how often is CURSOR_UPDATE firing? |
| 17:49.36 | RaydenUni | just finished druid flight quest |
| 17:49.38 | RaydenUni | and then wow crashed |
| 17:49.53 | Maytrix | it fires once on enter and once on leave |
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| 17:50.36 | Maytrix | I added a debug and it was returning the correct string check fine, but when i add the function call to switch the sets it makes the switch and hangs the ui during the switch process |
| 17:50.40 | Ellipsis | CURSOR_UPDATE fires a *ton* when your cursor is over the world frame |
| 17:51.29 | Maytrix | when i mouse over the node it is the only event that fires |
| 17:51.58 | Ellipsis | yeah, and you're not supposed to use it for detection of world objects :P |
| 17:52.01 | nymbia | Maytrix: well, what would cause a hang is if the CURSOR_UPDATE function runs again during the switch process |
| 17:52.11 | Maytrix | is why i tried to hook it cause i can no longer use spell_cast_start to switch the sets |
| 17:52.29 | Ellipsis | it's likely that closetgnome picks an item up to equip it, thus triggering CURSOR_UPDATE because the item needs to be shown on the cursor |
| 17:52.34 | Maytrix | is why I thought I would ask, thought it may be a limitation on the funtion |
| 17:52.51 | Moddington_ | Ackis: yep |
| 17:53.02 | Maytrix | is what I was thinking it may be a item stuck on the cursor |
| 17:53.19 | Ellipsis | you could just unregister cursor update while in a swap, but that's a bit of a hack |
| 17:53.37 | nymbia | yeah |
| 17:53.51 | nymbia | or break your hook off, then re-hook after the swap |
| 17:54.15 | Maytrix | never thought of that, maybe do a clearcursor call when i unregister the event? |
| 17:54.38 | Maytrix | I am still very noob to this, learning as i go |
| 17:54.54 | nymbia | that'll probably fire the event too, so you'd want to do it beforehand. shouldnt be necessary, though |
| 17:57.11 | Maytrix | ok will try the unregister event tip and see if that works, basically just trying to restore ClosetGnome_Gatherer, I have it all working except the switching on cursor_Update because blizz put the stupid cooldown on switching during spellcast |
| 17:59.08 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 17:59.15 | fewyn | ponders what other addons to try |
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| 18:00.04 | Ackis | nymbia: add my suggestions to spellbinder yet? :D |
| 18:00.09 | Resa | Just a cooldown? I thot it was it stopped spellcasting altogether. |
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| 18:00.33 | nymbia | Ackis: made a branch and started rewriting :p |
| 18:00.42 | Ackis | haha |
| 18:00.48 | Ackis | is it done yet? |
| 18:00.58 | nymbia | nope! ;) |
| 18:01.04 | Ackis | what about now? |
| 18:01.05 | Ackis | hehehe |
| 18:01.41 | nymbia | give it another 38 seconds |
| 18:01.50 | Ackis | ahh ok |
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| 18:05.46 | Zeksie | cncfanatics: ping |
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| 18:07.57 | Zeksie | cncfanatics: just vanished on brut as he smacked me, and LQH reported my health as -1256 thereafter... cos wow won't give a UNIT_HEALTH because my health didn't actually ever change (cos the vanish hit same time as hit), but LQH saw the hit and thinks it should have stuck.. :) |
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| 18:10.58 | Fisker- | Chompers you die |
| 18:11.09 | nocts | nerf blood worms: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1153/wowscrnshot081008064110nk1.jpg |
| 18:11.58 | Trell- | I love bloodworms |
| 18:12.04 | Trell- | and I never get tired of saying that :P |
| 18:12.11 | Trell- | spamming death strike ftw |
| 18:12.17 | RaydenUni | Talon King Ikis is a good fight when you beat him with a tank and a dps shaman healing |
| 18:12.22 | RaydenUni | everyone else dead |
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| 18:20.40 | cncfanatics | Zeksie: pong |
| 18:20.54 | cncfanatics | hmmm, thats anoying |
| 18:21.15 | cncfanatics | Zeksie: shouldn't a unithealth fire shortly after or were you at full hp ? |
| 18:23.19 | Fisker- | has zeks with Zeksie |
| 18:23.26 | Zyndrome | yay 8/8 T6 , now I can gquit and sell my account |
| 18:23.28 | Zyndrome | :/ |
| 18:23.51 | Ackis | Zyndrome: I gquit after I got the staff from KJ |
| 18:23.52 | Ackis | :D |
| 18:23.57 | Zyndrome | \o/ |
| 18:24.34 | Resa | How do you guys have the time to raid & develop such great addons? >.< |
| 18:24.42 | Ackis | my add-ons are shit |
| 18:24.52 | Resa | lies. shut up |
| 18:24.56 | Ackis | haha |
| 18:24.57 | Silviu- | Ackis your guild needs a wl ? ;) |
| 18:24.58 | erikh | heh, i like them |
| 18:25.04 | Silviu- | Ex* |
| 18:25.05 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 18:25.21 | Silviu- | We are only at M`uru :( need Kj loot ;p |
| 18:25.24 | Ackis | Silviu-: I'm not guilded so no, we don't haha and my former guild are full of douchbags |
| 18:25.36 | Resa | >.< |
| 18:25.42 | Silviu- | ;-) |
| 18:25.55 | Zeksie | cncfanatics: no. if you were at full health before and after vanish.. there won't be. cos it didn't change |
| 18:25.58 | Ackis | guild leader invited a terrible female player because he was trying to get into her pants |
| 18:26.04 | Resa | ouch. |
| 18:26.07 | Ackis | and QQs when we called him out on it |
| 18:26.21 | Ackis | so I was like "you're a terrible guild leader bai" |
| 18:26.23 | Resa | I told my guild leader off because of his playing with our dkp system. |
| 18:26.30 | nymbia | man, i need to keep up with illidrama more |
| 18:26.41 | Ackis | lol this isn't public |
| 18:26.45 | Ackis | do you know xzar? |
| 18:26.53 | Resa | Giving his brand new recruits who are his friends huge intro dkp to the point they got gear over ppl who'd been in guild for 6 months |
| 18:26.58 | nymbia | pft, it always becomes public |
| 18:27.00 | nymbia | yeah |
| 18:27.06 | Ackis | he's the douche :P |
| 18:27.19 | nymbia | ah |
| 18:27.39 | Ackis | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ackis#Team_Ice_.5B10.5D |
| 18:28.37 | Maytrix | hey guys just a heads up your suggestion for fixing my issue work like a charm, thanks again I knew you guys would have the fix ;-) |
| 18:28.48 | Ackis | long story short, I lost it when he told my gf and I that "it's better for the guild if she doesn't raid anymore" |
| 18:29.08 | Ackis | so I asked him "was this an officer decision or a xzar decision like awaken?" and he fumed :P |
| 18:29.16 | nymbia | rofl |
| 18:29.51 | Resa | heh |
| 18:29.53 | Fisker- | slaps nymbia around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:29.58 | nymbia | Maytrix: nice |
| 18:30.15 | Ackis | but yah the guild got all pissed off because my gf made a forum post "open letter to xzar" after repeated attempts to deal with it personally, so half the officer core that we were dealing with told her to do it haha |
| 18:30.24 | Chompers | Fisker- must die, i alone am best |
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| 18:30.40 | erikh | oh boy! |
| 18:30.42 | erikh | guild drama! |
| 18:31.06 | nymbia | team ice drama, even better! |
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| 18:31.31 | Ackis | "I think it's a stupid assed circle jerk" <-- gf just said that about TI |
| 18:31.32 | Ackis | haha |
| 18:31.42 | nymbia | lol |
| 18:32.20 | Ackis | what's sad is 1) I coded an add-on for the guild and now they can't use it (although I think they are still which is violating the license so I'll have to see what I can do about that), 2) I'm a top healer, 3) I had 99.9% raid attendance before I left |
| 18:32.42 | nymbia | sucks for them! |
| 18:32.55 | Ackis | I'm bored as fuck though although more time to do house work/work on shitty mods |
| 18:33.03 | Ackis | (ps: is spellbinder done yet?) |
| 18:33.03 | Maytrix | thanks again nymbia and ellipsis for th Hook up pun intended . ;-) |
| 18:33.21 | nymbia | BAD PUN! |
| 18:33.33 | Maytrix | heh |
| 18:33.48 | nymbia | Ackis: nope, fishing! |
| 18:33.55 | Ackis | fuck I forgot about the tourney |
| 18:34.12 | nymbia | oh not doing that |
| 18:34.21 | nymbia | won that a long while back |
| 18:34.33 | Resa | What type of addon did you make for your guild? |
| 18:34.36 | Ackis | I won once, want to get the trinket |
| 18:34.37 | nymbia | although i could use a trinket.. next week i guess |
| 18:35.00 | Ackis | resa: TIRaid (on ace svn), it's for their version of dkp/raid attendance |
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| 18:36.15 | Ackis | has AceLocale-3.0: GatherMateNodes: Missing entry for 'Cobalt Node': been fixed? |
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| 18:43.20 | kagaro | should be |
| 18:44.20 | kagaro | Ackis: btw im using the data miner code to generate more mining code :P |
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| 18:48.01 | Ackis | lol reaally? |
| 18:48.15 | Xinhuan | kicks CIA-45 |
| 18:48.16 | CIA-45 | ow |
| 18:49.09 | [Endeavour] | what's wrong with cia-45? not informing about commits ? |
| 18:49.25 | Fisker- | Ackis my enemy |
| 18:49.31 | cladhaire | no |
| 18:49.40 | cladhaire | the post-commit for wowi is failing on connection failed for the RPC ping |
| 18:49.43 | cladhaire | which is what most of us use |
| 18:49.43 | RaydenUni | how much of an improvement is 40 reslilience to 140? |
| 18:50.10 | Xinhuan | english please cladhaire ;p |
| 18:50.24 | Ackis | Fisker- my love |
| 18:50.27 | Fisker- | Ackis my enemy |
| 18:50.27 | Xinhuan | about 3% |
| 18:50.27 | cladhaire | CIA seems to be pissed off at the moment. |
| 18:50.41 | cladhaire | as in the web server that receives pings is refusing connections |
| 18:51.50 | Xinhuan | resilience cap is 494 rating |
| 18:51.58 | Xinhuan | which is -12.5% chance to crit |
| 18:52.23 | [Endeavour] | ~lart web_server_that_eats_pings |
| 18:52.23 | purl | squishes web_server_that_eats_pings like a bug |
| 18:54.15 | Vulcanus | Ackis: just ask admins to take down the mod and replace it with rickroll code |
| 18:55.14 | Ackis | Vulcanus: what I think has happened is that they're using an old version hosted on their site |
| 18:55.22 | Ackis | I wonder if I can get that information? |
| 18:55.30 | Ackis | and nymbia, warpath is full of jackasses |
| 18:55.59 | nymbia | haha, yeah.. they're an interesting bunch >.> |
| 18:56.18 | Ackis | I think I got attacked by 3 of them while being alt-tabbed dealing with add-ons |
| 18:56.26 | nymbia | Ackis: just now? |
| 18:56.47 | Ackis | yes |
| 18:56.53 | nymbia | which coast are you on? |
| 18:56.53 | Ackis | frostymagy |
| 18:57.05 | Ackis | west coast |
| 18:57.31 | nymbia | oh im on the east, only seen 2 other 70s |
| 18:57.36 | Ackis | ahh |
| 18:57.57 | Ackis | I'll come say hi to you after the competition (not to gank :P) you can see all my gay items |
| 18:58.03 | nymbia | lol cool |
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| 18:58.25 | nymbia | fish tracking's a little hax for this |
| 18:58.48 | Vulcanus | Ackis: ah, similar thing happened with me when I got forced out of my guild that Id been in for one year |
| 18:58.56 | Vulcanus | I coded their website |
| 18:59.21 | Ackis | what'd you do with it? |
| 18:59.22 | Vulcanus | so when I left I took it down (and with it the DKP records), replaced their vBulletin files with pirate files, and reported their vB as pirated |
| 18:59.25 | Ackis | and brb fishing competiton |
| 19:00.02 | Vulcanus | then they got all fussy about it and said I was breaking the law by withholding information illegally (being the database) which apparently belonged to the guild and not the author of the application that created said database |
| 19:00.19 | Vulcanus | so I just said fuck it, e-drama gets you nowhere, so I just gave it all back |
| 19:00.43 | Vulcanus | they still aren't using my site from what I know, think they're going back to a phpBB based EQDKP pos |
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| 19:01.40 | cladhaire | my cia pings are fixed |
| 19:01.45 | cladhaire | should work now :P |
| 19:01.47 | cladhaire | someone forgot to restart the service :P |
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| 19:04.21 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: kagaro: Question for you two if you have a minute.. I know originally you used some of the constants from astrolabe.. but it looks like you don't use the xOffset and yOffset that Esamynn has stored there. Any idea what those values are/were used for? |
| 19:04.29 | Ackis | omg i'm at 5 |
| 19:04.54 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: those values position the zones on the continent map |
| 19:05.00 | nevcairiel | but we only use independant zone sizes |
| 19:05.03 | nevcairiel | not the big picture |
| 19:05.25 | cladhaire | so gathermate never tries to drop stuff at the continent map? |
| 19:05.39 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 19:05.42 | nevcairiel | onmly zone maps |
| 19:05.46 | cladhaire | ok |
| 19:05.47 | cladhaire | thanks! |
| 19:05.50 | nymbia | damn oily blackmouth |
| 19:06.13 | nevcairiel | we also wrote our own parser for the dbc files now |
| 19:06.19 | nevcairiel | or kagaro did :p |
| 19:06.33 | cladhaire | "experimental" :P |
| 19:06.33 | cladhaire | nice |
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| 19:06.48 | cladhaire | i have to remember if i need to change the way i store NPC data in LightHeaded |
| 19:06.51 | cladhaire | i dont even remember what I did. |
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| 19:13.04 | CIA-45 | 03doktorjet * r80125 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-ruRU.lua: GatherMate: ruRU locale - minor fixes |
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| 19:13.33 | Funkeh` | nymbia, is it really slippery |
| 19:13.48 | CIA-45 | 03drool * r80126 10Nauticus/NautCore.lua: |
| 19:13.48 | CIA-45 | Nauticus: |
| 19:13.48 | CIA-45 | - fix for WotLK: replace ChatFrame_ OnEvent with *EventFilter |
| 19:13.48 | CIA-45 | - add uc2ven ZeppelinMasters to chat filter |
| 19:15.12 | Fisker- | Zeksie my bestest friend |
| 19:16.43 | binder | ~is there a good way to farm like agility/str/armor scrolls? |
| 19:19.08 | Ellipsis | fish for scrollcases |
| 19:19.19 | Zhinjio | loves on Ellipsis |
| 19:19.24 | Ellipsis | rawr~ |
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| 19:24.03 | Funkeh` | ERR_VENDOR_HATES_YOU = "That merchant doesn't like you."; |
| 19:24.05 | Funkeh` | teehee |
| 19:24.23 | Funkeh` | You get that a lot Fisker- ? |
| 19:24.25 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 19:25.00 | Zyndrome | http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=balancedcz1.jpg |
| 19:25.05 | Zyndrome | Beast Mastery = balanced |
| 19:25.33 | Zyndrome | ;P |
| 19:25.42 | Chompers | 70 deathknights already |
| 19:25.42 | Chompers | oh my |
| 19:25.53 | Funkeh` | there's 77 dks |
| 19:26.12 | Daemona | binder become an inscriptor with the next addon |
| 19:26.13 | Kemayo | It is generally safe to never, ever be surprised by how quickly someone levels in a MMO. |
| 19:26.18 | Kemayo | s/safe/best/ |
| 19:26.22 | Kemayo | It just encourages them. |
| 19:26.31 | Daemona | Funkeh` there for over a week now ;) |
| 19:26.41 | Daemona | FtH got at least 2 on Coldara |
| 19:26.56 | fewyn | really loving the expansion so far |
| 19:28.03 | Fisker- | also me mr. Funkeh` |
| 19:28.19 | Funkeh` | you? |
| 19:28.25 | Chompers | Kemayo: there's correlation between leveling speed and number of poop socks, i bet you |
| 19:28.30 | Daemona | naah, i sticked with the rogue |
| 19:28.53 | Daemona | and all i noticed was.... you once go to the trainer for the new sap and then sometime later for sinister strike ... anything else is waste of time :X |
| 19:29.18 | Fisker- | i'm level 77 dk Funkeh` |
| 19:29.31 | Fisker- | only took 3 days played |
| 19:29.37 | Daemona | currently, i am not looking forward to playing a rogue in the next addon, but well rogues didnt get some polishing yet. |
| 19:29.49 | Fisker- | probably less discounting server issues and messing around |
| 19:30.55 | Fisker- | Zeksie i need you |
| 19:31.06 | Fisker- | for some reason zomgbuffs won't update that some pally of mine has respecced |
| 19:31.11 | Fisker- | so it still thinks he has kings |
| 19:31.33 | Daemona | then purge the cache, thats why there is a button, after that, move into inspect range and inspect him |
| 19:31.34 | Daemona | fixed |
| 19:33.26 | Fisker- | mine only had non-guild members and non-raid members |
| 19:33.35 | Corgan | Fisker- I love/hate you. |
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| 19:34.09 | Fisker- | ah there it was |
| 19:34.13 | Fisker- | wipe talent cache :o |
| 19:34.22 | Fisker- | is getting too old for this shit, etc. |
| 19:35.00 | Chompers | fail fisker |
| 19:35.01 | Chompers | fail |
| 19:35.05 | Fisker- | no u Chompers |
| 19:35.08 | Fisker- | it should learn by itself |
| 19:35.14 | Chompers | NO FISKER, YOU HAVE FAILED |
| 19:35.15 | Fisker- | IT SHOULD BE A L0RNING PROCESSOR |
| 19:35.17 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 19:35.20 | Fisker- | ~epic fail Chompers |
| 19:35.21 | purl | Chompers, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Chompers, you are that epic failure. |
| 19:35.40 | Chompers | well i can't counter that |
| 19:35.41 | Chompers | you win |
| 19:36.28 | Zeksie | Fisker-: it does update, it just throttles the update so when they're clicking their talent points during the respec it doesn't flood the bandwidth |
| 19:36.53 | Fisker- | well i've been raiding for 3 hours now and it only helped to clear the cache |
| 19:37.08 | Fisker- | even tried manually inspecting him and checking all talent trees manually |
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| 19:40.29 | Fisker- | omg |
| 19:40.33 | Fisker- | this is just not possible |
| 19:40.48 | Fisker- | A rogue dps'ing a cleaving mob from the front |
| 19:40.50 | Fisker- | ... |
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| 19:41.00 | Neo|Home | hrm |
| 19:41.08 | Neo|Home | every time I reload my UI my xperl player frame moves |
| 19:41.12 | Fisker- | even if it wasn't cleaving i'd still be headdesk'ing |
| 19:41.17 | Neo|Home | definitely feels like the beta has issues saving stuff |
| 19:42.36 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rc147316 10/ changelog.txt : Update changelog for 2.4.3.33-Beta |
| 19:42.37 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r0f0f0bb 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Weekly build 2.4.3.33-Beta |
| 19:42.38 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * ra3b82e8 10/ : Merge commit '2.4.3.33-Beta' |
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| 19:48.49 | KriLL3 | arenas fubar? |
| 19:49.07 | KriLL3 | 3, 2 ,1 *start* ... doors never oppened |
| 19:49.14 | CIA-45 | 03neotron 07WotLK * r80127 10MagicTargets/: MagicTargets: making directory. |
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| 19:49.36 | CIA-45 | 03neotron 07WotLK * r80128 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets/: MagicTargets: WotLK branch |
| 19:50.39 | Pkekyo| | ~ugt |
| 19:50.40 | purl | somebody said ugt was Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 19:51.33 | Ellipsis | is CRITERIA_UPDATE for achievement criteria? |
| 19:51.57 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis upside-down |
| 19:52.51 | Pkekyo| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6mCUoRYN3Y&feature=related pewpew |
| 19:55.07 | Ellipsis | :< |
| 19:55.43 | Pkekyo| | 'sup with the saddyface Ellipsis? |
| 19:55.51 | Ellipsis | blizzard hates me |
| 19:56.05 | Pkekyo| | wai? |
| 19:57.25 | Ellipsis | ask them! :P |
| 19:59.59 | Pkekyo| | nah |
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| 20:00.09 | Pkekyo| | I don't associate with people like that |
| 20:00.47 | ulic | Ellipsis: yesterday someone was talking about a Rune PitBull module. Is that on a branch someplace, I didn't see it. |
| 20:01.22 | Ellipsis | there have been patches submitted for pitbull and dogtag to support runic power, but I don't think anyone's started/working on an actual rune module yet |
| 20:01.38 | ulic | oh, ok, my mistake |
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| 20:02.57 | Ellipsis | it's a good idea though, someone ought to ;P |
| 20:03.36 | ulic | I actually an idea for, but haven't investigated enough about how runes work to know if it would be doable or not. |
| 20:07.19 | CIA-45 | 03neotron * r80129 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Now works both in WotLK and retail. |
| 20:08.24 | CIA-45 | 03morgalm * r80130 10MorgDKP/ (11 files): |
| 20:08.24 | CIA-45 | MorgDKP: |
| 20:08.24 | CIA-45 | - bunch of deDE localizations (thanks Dragooner) |
| 20:13.28 | CIA-45 | 03Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate 07WotLK * r80131 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: wotlk temp hack fixing the UIDropDown menu not displayed after pressing "Sets" button |
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| 20:29.47 | Ackis | hmm if I have mod A pointing to wrath branch of ace3, and mod B pointing at trunk of ace3, will wrath version get loaded? (on beta server) |
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| 20:31.21 | Pneumatus | embedded? |
| 20:33.08 | profalbert | the wrath-branch will get loaded |
| 20:33.10 | Droolio | i did a compare of the Ace3 branch i don't think anything has actually changed apart from the .toc |
| 20:33.13 | profalbert | because mod A is loaded first |
| 20:33.38 | profalbert | they have the same major/minor |
| 20:34.18 | CIA-45 | 03neotron * r80132 10MagicComm/MagicComm/CCSpellIDs.lua: MagicComm: Added Death Coil as well as some WotLK spell ID's. |
| 20:35.46 | CIA-45 | 03neotron 07WotLK * r80133 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets/ (. MagicTargets.lua MagicTargets.toc): |
| 20:35.46 | CIA-45 | MagicTargets: WotLK branch. |
| 20:35.46 | CIA-45 | - Fixed SPELL_AURA_REFRESH so refreshed CC methods now count. |
| 20:35.46 | CIA-45 | - HAck to manually load LibBars-1.0 if disembedded. |
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| 20:38.56 | harl | as a shaman in ghost wolf form, can i force myself to howl somehow? |
| 20:40.13 | harl | guess not.. |
| 20:40.29 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 20:40.42 | harl | note to blizzard: please implement that into /mountspecial - with a 30 or 60 second cool down |
| 20:40.53 | Ellipsis | haha, that'd be sweet |
| 20:42.28 | Neo|Home | Just submitted a very serious bug in WotLK |
| 20:42.32 | Neo|Home | Demon form lacks a dance |
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| 20:42.53 | nymbia | that's so very wrong |
| 20:43.01 | Neo|Home | I know, I was shocked |
| 20:43.10 | Neo|Home | such a glaring omission |
| 20:43.17 | Saroz | SPELL_AURA_REFRESH is gonna be amazing for keeping track of sheeps |
| 20:43.33 | Neo|Home | yeah |
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| 20:43.39 | Neo|Home | Magic Targets work with it properly now |
| 20:43.44 | Saroz | cant wait for a sheep tracking mod |
| 20:44.06 | Neo|Home | not just sheep though, of course, but all CC'd mobs |
| 20:44.08 | Zyndrome | sighetisigh |
| 20:44.13 | Saroz | ye |
| 20:44.22 | Saroz | gonna be really nice |
| 20:44.24 | Neo|Home | does DK's have any CC's? |
| 20:44.26 | Zyndrome | people with walk on when they get conflag = "huh? BOOM!" |
| 20:44.54 | Neo|Home | Zyndrome: yeah someone request that I make a "you have walk on" warning addon for twins |
| 20:45.07 | Zyndrome | yeah it sucked |
| 20:45.12 | Zyndrome | corpseruns |
| 20:45.38 | cncfanatics | mmm |
| 20:45.41 | cncfanatics | demon form sounds imba |
| 20:45.50 | cncfanatics | but ah well, you can be banished by your fellow locks |
| 20:47.00 | Gnarfoz | damn ebay is so good sometimes. |
| 20:47.15 | Fisker- | anyone remember the keybindings for ghots on teron? |
| 20:47.31 | Gnarfoz | 1, 3, 4, 5, 7 |
| 20:47.32 | Lyn_ | 1 345 |
| 20:47.33 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 20:47.36 | Vonhinten | 5 = aoe, 4 = shackle, 3 = lance |
| 20:47.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 20:47.44 | Gnarfoz | 1 melee, 7 shield |
| 20:47.46 | Fisker- | thank |
| 20:47.46 | Vonhinten | 7 = buff, 1 = melee |
| 20:47.48 | Neo|Home | demon form is fun |
| 20:47.50 | Fisker- | thanks* |
| 20:47.56 | Neo|Home | but I need real possess bar |
| 20:48.06 | Neo|Home | because blizz default => Ctrl-1 etc for abilities which sucks |
| 20:48.07 | Lyn_ | 5 4 tab 1 tab 1 tab 1 tab 1 ... rinse repeat :p |
| 20:48.17 | Fisker- | it's 3 |
| 20:48.18 | Vonhinten | tab 3 tab 3 |
| 20:48.22 | Fisker- | i know :P |
| 20:48.24 | Vonhinten | but tab = fail |
| 20:48.25 | Lyn_ | äh |
| 20:48.26 | Lyn_ | ja |
| 20:48.27 | Lyn_ | i mean |
| 20:48.27 | Fisker- | just couldn't remember the keybindings |
| 20:48.30 | Lyn_ | :o |
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| 20:48.44 | Lyn_ | Vonhinten, no, tab isnt fail :p |
| 20:48.44 | Fisker- | probably 2 months since i raided |
| 20:48.55 | Vonhinten | 2 fails, click to target = win |
| 20:48.56 | Gnarfoz | yes, tab is mega fail |
| 20:49.00 | Vonhinten | tab fails, that is |
| 20:49.07 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r80134 10AckisRecipeList/ (DataMiner.lua RecipeMiner.lua recipe-miner.lua): |
| 20:49.07 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:49.07 | CIA-45 | - Updated samples in data miner |
| 20:49.08 | CIA-45 | - Removed lua dataminer as the ruby one is sexy one |
| 20:49.17 | Lyn_ | Vonhinten, no, you fail tabbing |
| 20:49.25 | Vonhinten | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:49.51 | Fisker- | -your mom |
| 20:49.58 | cncfanatics | Ackis: drycoded ? |
| 20:51.36 | Ackis | no |
| 20:51.39 | Ackis | I'm at home |
| 20:51.44 | Ackis | not work :P |
| 20:52.39 | Trell- | for TF2 fans - funniest machinima TF2 movie I've seen in a while: http://www.wegame.com/watch/Temp_Fortress_2/ |
| 20:52.59 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r80135 10Collectinator/ (. externals.txt): |
| 20:52.59 | CIA-45 | Collectinator: |
| 20:52.59 | CIA-45 | - Make externals point to Wrath Ace3 branch since this is a Wrath only add-on :D |
| 20:53.27 | fewyn | collectinator? |
| 20:53.40 | Ackis | yes |
| 20:54.03 | fewyn | wonders what it does |
| 20:54.22 | Zyndrome | Neo|Home , we also need an addon to tell our druid tank to l2p and don't run out of healers LoS all the time |
| 20:54.25 | Ackis | Provides methods for determining which mini-pets, mounts, and tabards you are missing. |
| 20:54.26 | Zyndrome | .. |
| 20:54.26 | Vonhinten | It collects things and then spits out sayings in a german accent |
| 20:54.45 | fewyn | cool Ackis |
| 20:54.52 | fewyn | i might have to look at it |
| 20:55.04 | Ackis | oh right now it's in the stages of "blow your computer up" |
| 20:55.06 | fewyn | Zyndrome: You don't need an addon for that, you need me! |
| 20:55.16 | Zyndrome | /ra FFS |
| 20:55.59 | Zyndrome | 100 times |
| 20:56.11 | Arrowmaster | Zyndrome: you know i always wanted to resurect the old HealFail addon |
| 20:56.15 | Ackis | ~collectinator |
| 20:56.16 | purl | rumour has it, collectinator is A Wrath of the Lich King addon which will scan your mini-pets and mounts and provide a check list for what you're missing. In addition, a tabbard check list and "fun items" check list will be offered. Code by Ackis so be wary of using it. |
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| 20:56.59 | Neo|Home | oh cool dominos does have proper possess bar support |
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| 20:57.41 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r80136 10Collectinator/Collectinator.toc: |
| 20:57.41 | CIA-45 | Collectinator: |
| 20:57.41 | CIA-45 | - Update ToC |
| 20:57.58 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6681-tekErr.html |
| 20:58.01 | Tekkub | HUZZAH! |
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| 20:59.09 | Daemona | sounds dry coded |
| 20:59.11 | Daemona | hides. |
| 20:59.18 | Daemona | ~dry-coded |
| 20:59.38 | Daemona | wow, purl, you need to know that |
| 20:59.56 | Stanzilla | licks Tekkub |
| 20:59.59 | Ackis | Daemona tekerr or collectinator? :P |
| 21:00.12 | Funkeh` | ~drycoded |
| 21:00.12 | purl | it has been said that drycoded is Coding an add-on without testing the changes. |
| 21:00.13 | Daemona | no, the definition of dry-coded ;) |
| 21:00.20 | Daemona | snaps. |
| 21:00.26 | Funkeh` | twat |
| 21:00.36 | Daemona | QQs in a corner cutting her wrists. |
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| 21:04.56 | Ackis | Daemona: you just say "you are what you eat" :P |
| 21:04.56 | Ellipsis | Tekkub: needs moar screenshot! |
| 21:06.47 | Daemona | i am no cookie ! |
| 21:07.24 | CIA-45 | 03ackis 07Ackis * r80137 10Chatter/: Chatter: Ackis branch delete (old branch was ollllddd) |
| 21:09.48 | Resa | Aww.. I wish Collectinator also worked for what time was left for live. |
| 21:10.55 | Ackis | resa: I'm using the new system in wrath for it |
| 21:11.06 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar * r80138 10Prat/ (52 files in 9 dirs): Prat: Revert to 78223 |
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| 21:12.08 | Resa | ahh |
| 21:12.45 | sylvanaar | finally WAR is downloaded |
| 21:12.50 | sylvanaar | 24 hours |
| 21:13.18 | Ackis | mine's still going |
| 21:13.25 | Ackis | 88.4% |
| 21:15.32 | cncfanatics | WAR beta ? :o |
| 21:15.38 | cncfanatics | wish I could run it, i'm on linux |
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| 21:16.28 | ckknight | I wish I could run it, I'm on Mac :-P |
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| 21:17.00 | cncfanatics | well, I refuse to run vista so, no windowz for me as xp fails on new hardware |
| 21:17.25 | nocts | I ran a full vista/xp comparison test and was actually quite surprised. |
| 21:17.38 | nocts | At the very, very least, it knocked my anti-vista bias out. |
| 21:17.55 | KriLL3 | cncfanatics: you're one of those impressionable people that have yet to try vista and still says it's rubbish? |
| 21:18.58 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: vista was shipped with this computer |
| 21:19.00 | cncfanatics | I threw it off |
| 21:19.09 | cncfanatics | and I'm against vista not because of performance |
| 21:19.12 | cncfanatics | but because of ethic |
| 21:19.17 | nocts | Ah |
| 21:19.21 | nocts | I like that. |
| 21:19.27 | sylvanaar | vista hate is 100% linux lover fueled |
| 21:19.37 | nocts | Reminds me of my BSD days -kisses cnc- |
| 21:19.46 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar: nothing to do with it |
| 21:19.49 | Ellipsis | hey now, down boy |
| 21:19.57 | Ellipsis | tugs on nocts' leash |
| 21:20.00 | cncfanatics | if one day the linux kernel people include the shit in their kernel that microsoft did I'm hacking it away :p |
| 21:20.06 | nocts | yips |
| 21:20.16 | nocts | Which part, cnc? |
| 21:20.29 | cncfanatics | DRM |
| 21:20.33 | nocts | So turn it off? |
| 21:20.50 | CIA-45 | picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * r788f63a 10/ README.textile : Add readme |
| 21:20.51 | cncfanatics | can't completely turn it off in vista can you ? |
| 21:20.51 | CIA-45 | picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * rb0c6b7d 10/ (picoFPS.lua picoFPS.toc tekKonfigAboutPanel.lua): Add about panel |
| 21:20.51 | sylvanaar | right, DRM is something even torvalds didnt disavow |
| 21:20.51 | CIA-45 | picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * re2242cd 10/ README.textile : Readme update |
| 21:22.03 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r80139 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeMiner.lua: |
| 21:22.03 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 21:22.03 | CIA-45 | - Add all the professions to the dataminer |
| 21:22.04 | Gnarfoz | <cncfanatics> well, I refuse to run vista so, no windowz for me as xp fails on new hardware <-- erm, how does xp fail with new hardware? |
| 21:22.07 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 21:22.16 | Gnarfoz | does your usb coffee machine not work? :\ |
| 21:22.32 | sylvanaar | my ipv6 toaster works fine |
| 21:22.51 | CIA-45 | picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * r8049789 10/ picoFPS.lua : Add click-to-GC |
| 21:22.51 | CIA-45 | picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * r7ea5e1a 10/ picoFPS.lua : Add addon memory info |
| 21:22.52 | nevcairiel | one day people will realize, that you cannot avoid DRM |
| 21:23.10 | sylvanaar | wow nev and i agree on something |
| 21:23.11 | nevcairiel | unless you dont want to watch DVDs anymore |
| 21:23.11 | nocts | Wait, cnc, what is it about DRM that you don't agree with? |
| 21:23.21 | nevcairiel | or install games from dvds |
| 21:23.25 | nocts | DRM isn't even activated unless the content itself -requests- DRM. |
| 21:24.24 | CIA-45 | picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * r93fb6c7 10/ changelog.txt : Update changelog for 2.4.3.1-Beta |
| 21:24.24 | CIA-45 | picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * r38cf3d5 10/ (README.textile picoFPS.toc): Weekly build 2.4.3.1-Beta |
| 21:24.24 | CIA-45 | picofps: 03Tekkub 07master * r702ebe8 10/ : Merge commit '2.4.3.1-Beta' |
| 21:25.01 | Ellipsis | I don't watch DVDs or install games from them, and never have...am I allowed to hate DRM? |
| 21:25.02 | nocts | Meaning, honestly, the content that requests DRM is the company you should be upset with. |
| 21:25.06 | Trell- | does anyone use WeGame for video uploading, and can spare a couple of minutes for a very brief private messaging conversation? |
| 21:25.20 | cncfanatics | if content requires DRM, I just get a cracked version |
| 21:25.26 | nocts | See, that's my point. |
| 21:25.31 | nocts | It isn't Vista's fault. |
| 21:25.35 | cncfanatics | and i'm also against DRM being in my kernel |
| 21:25.37 | nocts | That's the content provider's fault. |
| 21:25.45 | nocts | DRM itself doesn't hinder you in any way, the provider does. |
| 21:25.51 | KriLL3 | vista supposedly have "integrated DRM" it's not evident anywhere though |
| 21:25.54 | nocts | Don't buy products from that provider. |
| 21:25.55 | sylvanaar | why DRM exists: <cncfanatics> if content requires DRM, I just get a cracked version |
| 21:25.58 | Gnarfoz | you still haven't clarified how XP "fails on new hardware" ;) |
| 21:26.10 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: newest hardware is "vista only" |
| 21:26.13 | Gnarfoz | aha? |
| 21:26.14 | cncfanatics | and is unsupported in xp |
| 21:26.15 | Gnarfoz | haven't seen that. |
| 21:26.17 | Gnarfoz | show me :p |
| 21:26.18 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: laptops that only ship with vista usually don't have xp drivers, thus you can't use various stuff on it |
| 21:26.20 | nocts | I've not seen that either. |
| 21:26.24 | cncfanatics | I had that issue with the computer of a friend, couldn't ever get his soundcard to work |
| 21:26.27 | Codayus | cncfanatics: Example plz. |
| 21:26.32 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: because notebook manufacturers make hardware now? |
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| 21:26.43 | KriLL3 | nope, why? |
| 21:26.43 | nocts | I can't afford to talk OS. People end up with missing eyes, broken jaws. |
| 21:26.46 | nocts | I'm going to masterbate. |
| 21:26.50 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: no but they buy hardware from manufacturers who don't bother with xp drivers :P |
| 21:26.54 | Gnarfoz | nocts: masturbate |
| 21:27.01 | nocts | ^ this man does it more often than me. |
| 21:27.02 | sylvanaar | now its a group thing? |
| 21:27.03 | ag` | most laptops uses intel chipsets which does have xp drivers, you just have to get them from intel/realtek, and not your laptop vendor. It is pretty easy |
| 21:27.10 | KriLL3 | and they don't distribute the XP drivers if there are any |
| 21:27.11 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: actually, that's my point: that hardware is not used in just notebooks. there's always drivers around :\ |
| 21:27.42 | Ellipsis | notebooks or not, it's hardware that's unsupported on xp (or works with generic drivers *if you're lucky*) |
| 21:27.45 | nocts | Hardware that is Vista only is similar to DRM. If you don't like that feature, don't buy it/support it and it won't affect you. |
| 21:28.02 | Codayus | I think I did hear about some issues with some really obscure wifi and/or bluetooth bits not having XP drivers. But. XP not orking on crappy laptop isn't QUITE the same as "XP doesn't work on new hardware". :-) |
| 21:28.04 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: you're mistaken, plenty of recent laptops that doesn't have an XP option are a nightmare to get XP drivers for |
| 21:28.19 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: uhmm I sell them, I pretty much know what I'm talking about :\ |
| 21:28.21 | KriLL3 | yeah it's a driver problem, nothing to do with the OS |
| 21:28.25 | nocts | LOUD NOISES |
| 21:28.48 | Gnarfoz | anyway, if you buy hardware there's no drivers for your favorite OS for... wth are you doing that for :> |
| 21:29.02 | KriLL3 | epic stupidz? |
| 21:29.14 | ag` | just go to intels page and get drivers for the chipset your laptop uses |
| 21:29.14 | Gnarfoz | probably |
| 21:29.28 | sylvanaar | hi XP was 2002, vista was 2007 its almost 2009 |
| 21:29.43 | DARKGuy | XP ftw. |
| 21:30.11 | sylvanaar | 2004-2008 was wow, so you may have missed a few years |
| 21:30.12 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: that doesn't make an OS that has only very minor improvements worth upgrading to, though :\ |
| 21:30.40 | sylvanaar | you run linux on your machine? |
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| 21:30.57 | Gnarfoz | I have ubuntu installed somewhere, but I'm not using it regularly |
| 21:31.04 | DARKGuy | Ew ubuntu D: |
| 21:31.13 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy: gtfo |
| 21:31.41 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, lol, archlinux ftw =). Ubuntu became too bloated :( |
| 21:31.49 | sylvanaar | you usually change os'es when you change machines - upgrading on the same machine isnt really ideal |
| 21:31.51 | nocts | I hate that word. |
| 21:31.53 | nocts | Define "bloated". |
| 21:31.55 | Gnarfoz | arselinux ftw, yaddayadda |
| 21:32.05 | DARKGuy | you haters :P |
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| 21:32.10 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: ? I wasn't talking about using a "upgrade install" at all |
| 21:32.14 | Mirozel | Heya guys :) |
| 21:32.22 | Codayus | Considering the cost of Vista (since, I'm sure, nobody here would dream of pirating anyone IP - that would be like posting someone elses addon to an addon site), the "not worth upgrading when XP works" argument isn't bad... |
| 21:32.30 | Mirozel | I can't seem to find the "surfacelib" anywhere... anyone got a clue? |
| 21:32.43 | Ellipsis | surfacelib is oooooold |
| 21:32.56 | sylvanaar | bloated = an ambiguous term which has no meaning, cannot be countered, but is derogatory. see: pedagogy |
| 21:32.59 | DARKGuy | well, installing Ubuntu now is about the same as installing a broken XP :P. They started to make it worse when they added that tracker thing, its just like XP's indexing service, but worse. It also has more apps than XP does and feels more heavier :( |
| 21:33.13 | Codayus | Installing XP when the machine comes with Vista is a trickier proposition, these days... |
| 21:33.16 | nocts | sylvanaar: I love you |
| 21:33.27 | Ellipsis | ~bloat |
| 21:33.28 | purl | "GCC is the only one [GNU Software] that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be." -- Linus Torvalds (father of Linux), or see emacs |
| 21:33.28 | DARKGuy | Codayus, I've done that, and it ends up faster :P |
| 21:33.42 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 21:33.47 | DARKGuy | I hate emacs too. |
| 21:33.58 | Gnarfoz | you should get gentoo. or at least visit funroll-loops.org |
| 21:34.02 | Pneumatus | emacs can do absolutely everything for you tho |
| 21:34.09 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, no damn, I hate compiling </3 |
| 21:34.10 | Pneumatus | funroll-loops.info now Gnarfoz |
| 21:34.14 | Pneumatus | .org died ages ago :< |
| 21:34.17 | nocts | I was slackware for a very, very long time. Then dropped it for arc. |
| 21:34.19 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy: but... ITS BETTER |
| 21:34.23 | nocts | OpenBSD is still my baby. |
| 21:34.32 | Pneumatus | gentoo: it's for ricers. |
| 21:34.40 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, well, it is. But you gotta compile, and I'd rather use something that's lightweight and you dont have to compile :D |
| 21:34.47 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: see how much I care about them, it's bad enough I know their address off the top off my head ;p |
| 21:34.53 | Codayus | DARKGuy: And QNX is probably faster still, while covering your computer in chocalate would be much tastier. Neither is OBVIOUSLY an important point. |
| 21:35.03 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy: but pre-compiled is the exact opposite of lightweight |
| 21:35.04 | Ellipsis | mmm....chocolate |
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| 21:35.07 | nocts | -O2 -s3 -s2 -funroll-loops -must_c-ompile_faster |
| 21:35.07 | Mirozel | Surfacelib anyone? |
| 21:35.16 | Ellipsis | Mirozel: it's dead and gone and should never be used |
| 21:35.21 | Ackis | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/ind lol |
| 21:35.24 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, well depends on how it's compiled o.o |
| 21:35.26 | Gnarfoz | you're not even realizing how much I'm making fun of you xD |
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| 21:35.27 | nocts | Gnarfoz: The exact opposite of lightweight is heavyweight. |
| 21:35.28 | Pneumatus | --omg-optimized |
| 21:35.32 | Gnarfoz | nocts: shush |
| 21:35.50 | nocts | If the code is compiled, generally I think it's no heavier than the source code that gave it the features to begin with,. |
| 21:35.56 | DARKGuy | Codayus, I like my PC to run fast, that's why I have XP and Arch :P. |
| 21:35.56 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 21:35.56 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 21:36.03 | Mirozel | Ellipsis: hmm, explains it :) How do I get BUU working then tho? what's the replacement? |
| 21:36.05 | Gnarfoz | not? :p |
| 21:36.05 | DARKGuy | o.O... |
| 21:36.09 | nocts | Unless you mean ricing it through gcc optimizations. And then that isn't a package problem, since most are more than 686 optimized by default. |
| 21:36.13 | Ellipsis | Mirozel: dunno, what's a BUU? |
| 21:36.18 | *** part/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@91-113-22-244.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 21:36.21 | Gnarfoz | nocts: try debian xD |
| 21:36.26 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 21:36.29 | DARKGuy | Ackis, yay |
| 21:36.31 | Codayus | DARKGuy: But it could be faster! Why do you slow your machine down with any windowing system or GUI at ALL?! |
| 21:36.32 | Gnarfoz | nocts: 686 whatsat? :> |
| 21:36.38 | Mirozel | it's just a remake of AG unitframes I think |
| 21:36.46 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 21:36.51 | DARKGuy | Codayus, because I live in the 2000's, the console era is over :) |
| 21:36.52 | Pneumatus | watching scrolling compile text for hours and hours makes you a linux guru, amirite |
| 21:36.54 | Gnarfoz | Codayus: he should just stop at the BIOS and don't install anything. no bloat at all :> |
| 21:36.56 | nocts | Debian's packages are 686 compiled, you're slow speed is much more likely due to your fs/hard drive settings |
| 21:37.04 | Ellipsis | Mirozel: well, um, there are lots of different UF alternatives around.... |
| 21:37.05 | Gnarfoz | nocts: whose slow speed? |
| 21:37.16 | Codayus | (Personally, I use XP, not Vista. So I agree with you. I'm just pointing out it's a silly argument. :-p ) |
| 21:37.19 | nocts | DARKGuy: I'll give up the console when the GUI can be as flexible. |
| 21:37.23 | Ellipsis | agUF, pitbull, xperl, sage, oUF |
| 21:37.35 | Codayus | Gnarfoz: BIOS? BIOS is BLOAT. |
| 21:37.40 | Gnarfoz | nocts: you're not even paying attention, this is a session of poking fun at people with random strong opinions :P |
| 21:37.42 | Codayus | Real machines don't need BIOS. |
| 21:37.55 | nocts | BIOS = Bloat Inside Our Systems |
| 21:37.56 | KriLL3 | they just need punch cards |
| 21:38.05 | DARKGuy | nocts, same, but that's why I'm working on making the GUI easier, flexible and all that. The whole GUI stuff in Linux is a hell itself, but it's better than using the console |
| 21:38.16 | nocts | DARKGuy: Not for myself. |
| 21:38.16 | Mirozel | Ellipsis: I know, used several of em, but need this specific one to make the frames not have HP/MP bars alongside the portrait, need just square frames with no info on MP/HP |
| 21:38.33 | DARKGuy | nocts, you can't play WoW in console though! |
| 21:38.36 | nocts | I can't take the output of one file, pipe it into a seperate program, parse the new output, and rewrite it somewhere else completely through four different, unrelated methods. |
| 21:38.43 | Mirozel | Ellipsis: and since I'm a no-skiller normally I'd make it in discord, but as you know it's broken... |
| 21:38.45 | Ellipsis | Mirozel: er, most UFs can do that, if I'm understanding you correctly |
| 21:38.59 | Ellipsis | the trick is just to disable all the extra fluff |
| 21:39.08 | nocts | ^ |
| 21:39.09 | DARKGuy | nocts, why would you need to do that in the first place o.O |
| 21:39.14 | Pneumatus | quoting dis ^^ |
| 21:39.18 | nocts | Because I'm not a home user, DARKGuy. |
| 21:39.21 | Mirozel | No, I need the portrait and not the bars, not the other way around :P |
| 21:39.27 | DARKGuy | nocts, that's why, I am :P |
| 21:39.34 | Ellipsis | Mirozel: well I know at least pitbull can do that |
| 21:39.49 | nocts | Then you have to admit that the GUI is still less powerful and less flexible than what the console offers. |
| 21:39.50 | Mirozel | RIghto, will try that one then :) thanks |
| 21:40.00 | Gnarfoz | nocts: xterm, yay! :p |
| 21:40.02 | Ellipsis | however, take note that there are several addons which do *just* portraits |
| 21:40.05 | nocts | Just because the gui suits home-level users doesn't mean the rest are ignored. |
| 21:40.24 | Ellipsis | rather than full UF replacements |
| 21:40.57 | nocts | Is it bad that I wish we could do away with the hp system nearly completely and have character-displayed levels of damage instead? |
| 21:41.05 | nocts | "Oh, I've lost an arm. Perhaps it's time I /cast vanish" |
| 21:41.16 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:41.19 | Arrowmaster | thats bad |
| 21:41.34 | DARKGuy | nocts, I know the console is way better than the GUI, but I'd rather use something human rather than having to learn a whole new programming language (read: bash) to do something simple: unzip *.zip -> FAIL. WHY THE HELL? why do I have to learn how to make a fucking loop (for file in *.zip; do unzip $file; end <- or whatever). That's -so- not user-friendly. Still, Windows's GUI is way better than Linux's -_-". IMHO, Console > Windows GUI > Linux GUI |
| 21:41.37 | Xinhuan | lack of exact numbers makes theorycrafting difficult |
| 21:41.42 | Xinhuan | soits bad |
| 21:42.10 | nocts | DARKGuy: tldr, the important part was getting you to admit the first line of your sentience <3 |
| 21:42.13 | nocts | *sentence |
| 21:42.14 | Pneumatus | loops :< just use xargs |
| 21:42.16 | Mirozel | Well Ellipsis, I'd like one where I can also get the PvP enable icon, combat icon etc :) |
| 21:42.33 | Ellipsis | ah, well pitbull can certainly do that for you |
| 21:42.36 | DARKGuy | nocts, :P well, it's obvious anyways ^^. |
| 21:42.36 | Codayus | Yeah, xargs is the answer. |
| 21:42.38 | Ellipsis | just disable any module with "bar" in its name :P |
| 21:42.41 | ashb_ | is it LibThreat that does the visual heal for pitbull? |
| 21:42.46 | charon | DARKGuy: saying "linux's GUI" already implies you haven't tried... _THEM_. (and found one that suits you) |
| 21:42.55 | Ellipsis | ashb_: no, it's libhealcomm |
| 21:42.55 | nocts | DARKGuy: And to unzip multiple files it should be unzip -f *.zip |
| 21:42.57 | DARKGuy | charon, I've tried all of them, they suck :( |
| 21:43.09 | ashb_ | Ellipsis: ta |
| 21:43.09 | Pneumatus | ls *.zip | xargs unzip |
| 21:43.10 | nocts | I highly doubt that. |
| 21:43.11 | Pneumatus | probably works |
| 21:43.28 | DARKGuy | well, gnome is the most decent of the group |
| 21:43.29 | charon | ls *.zip | xargs unzip is exactly the same as unzip *.zip |
| 21:43.32 | DARKGuy | imho. |
| 21:43.43 | DARKGuy | Yeah, but unzip *.zip is more friendly to me. |
| 21:43.47 | ashb_ | xargs -i{} unzip {} |
| 21:43.47 | charon | DARKGuy: just saying. some are so windowsish it makes me cringe. |
| 21:43.55 | nocts | ratpoison is one of my more favorite wm. |
| 21:44.01 | DARKGuy | figured :P |
| 21:44.03 | Ellipsis | ducks out of the conversation before her brain explodes |
| 21:44.05 | nocts | And the different forks of it afterwards. |
| 21:44.20 | *** join/#wowace kaiden (n=kaiden@c-71-231-115-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:44.33 | CIA-45 | 03endeavour * r80140 10Endeavours_BuffMod/ (5 files): |
| 21:44.33 | CIA-45 | Endeavours_BuffMod: |
| 21:44.33 | CIA-45 | - syncing added |
| 21:44.58 | Mirozel | Ellipsis yeah, seems nice :) thanks a bunch... Just one last thing: Now I accidently disabled Pitbull player ingame, how do I reenable? |
| 21:45.13 | Ellipsis | Mirozel: "extra units" |
| 21:45.43 | charon | DARKGuy: btw, the manpage tells me 'unzip "*.zip"' ought to work, even though the thought of a program expanding globs itself scares me |
| 21:45.55 | Mirozel | right, thanks |
| 21:45.58 | Mirozel | imba addon :) |
| 21:46.11 | nocts | charon: globs? |
| 21:46.13 | kaiden | Ellipsis, how do i install God into my wow client.. I want to be close to him at all times. |
| 21:46.20 | charon | nocts: shell wildcards |
| 21:46.24 | nocts | Ah |
| 21:46.28 | Ellipsis | kaiden: you'll need a "special" addon updater for that |
| 21:46.29 | DARKGuy | charon, o.O... I didn't know it could work with quotes, crazy. I should try it since I use it <3 |
| 21:46.38 | nocts | kaiden: emerge -s God |
| 21:46.42 | nocts | Put WoW in your flags |
| 21:46.52 | nocts | Oh, and use the tested mirror. |
| 21:46.58 | kaiden | Ellipsis, does this "special" addon updater involve under desk work of the up / down method / manor? |
| 21:47.00 | charon | DARKGuy: well, the quotes are to prevent the shell from expanding the *.zip to a list of all zips before even starting unzip |
| 21:47.00 | nocts | And wait a few days, he's got a large debug. |
| 21:47.24 | charon | DARKGuy: 'man unzip' claims it will then expand the *.zip itself and process each file in turn |
| 21:47.40 | charon | i haven't tried; i firmly believe globbing is the shell's business |
| 21:47.41 | nocts | charon: touche |
| 21:47.42 | DARKGuy | charon, sounds very ouchy to me |
| 21:48.08 | charon | you should read up on how shell wildcards work |
| 21:48.12 | charon | they're _all_ expanded by the shell |
| 21:48.13 | sylvanaar | ChatFrame1:SetScript("OnShow", function() Logout() end) |
| 21:48.26 | charon | (well, except in unzip's case apparently, but that sounds like a DOS relic) |
| 21:48.29 | CIA-45 | 03laotseu * r80141 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.lua: |
| 21:48.29 | CIA-45 | AllPlayed: |
| 21:48.29 | CIA-45 | - Added XP to next level for level 71, 75 and 77 |
| 21:48.57 | [Endeavour] | kaiden: try /script while God==god do end i guess you'll see then how much god likes that you are in front of your computer that often :) |
| 21:49.21 | Codayus | I agree with charon. God intended the SHELL to expand globs. |
| 21:50.05 | JerleMinara | blizz needs to patch load on demand so I can disembedd my librareis on beta |
| 21:50.07 | sylvanaar | that means the shell is divine in nature |
| 21:50.23 | Codayus | Might depend on what shell we're talking about. |
| 21:50.25 | nocts | Church of Slack. |
| 21:50.35 | Ellipsis | JerleMinara: you can manually toc-bump the libs |
| 21:50.51 | Codayus | On a vaguely related note, did you know you can implement the quicksort algorithm in a Windows batch file? |
| 21:50.55 | JerleMinara | Ellipsis: i tried that and they still weren't loading and I was erroring all over the place |
| 21:51.14 | sylvanaar | is there a command i can use to make the second half of bsgS4 come any faster |
| 21:51.17 | Ellipsis | JerleMinara: ah, fail |
| 21:52.01 | charon | Codayus: now i'm frightened |
| 21:52.07 | JerleMinara | puts on his coding pants and settles in to try and write a runebar for pitbull |
| 21:52.13 | Saroz | I should really fix SpecialEventsAura, but cba |
| 21:52.30 | Pneumatus | the wotlk fix to stop it erroring is simple |
| 21:53.53 | Ellipsis | JerleMinara: it's not as hard as it sounds, just refer to other modules when you get stuck :) |
| 21:54.27 | Codayus | charon: http://pastebin.com/m24cda6c0 |
| 21:55.40 | Saroz | Name: LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0 |
| 21:55.42 | Saroz | Description: Special events for Auras, (de)buffs gained, lost etc. |
| 21:55.42 | Saroz | Dependencies: LibRock-1.0, LibRockEvent-1.0, LibRockTimer-1.0 |
| 21:55.45 | Saroz | LibRock? |
| 21:55.46 | Saroz | fuck me |
| 21:56.10 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r80142 10Barrel/Core.lua: |
| 21:56.10 | CIA-45 | Barrel: |
| 21:56.10 | CIA-45 | - fixed IsLauncher(). |
| 21:56.13 | Saroz | nevcairiel how should I fix SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 ? |
| 21:56.17 | Saroz | make a 3.0? |
| 21:56.23 | Saroz | or just fix it |
| 21:56.28 | Ellipsis | why would it be needed? |
| 21:56.34 | Ellipsis | the combat log gives us full aura events now doesn't it? |
| 21:56.37 | Pneumatus | Grid still uses it |
| 21:56.39 | Saroz | cause it uses GetPlayerBuff |
| 21:56.43 | Saroz | sRaidFrames still uses it |
| 21:56.52 | nevcairiel | there already is a broken SE-A-3.0 with rock suckyness |
| 21:56.59 | Saroz | not gonna fucking use Rock |
| 21:57.03 | nevcairiel | yay for (new) libs that require framework :/ |
| 21:57.05 | Ellipsis | my question stands....I didn't ask what used it, but *why* |
| 21:57.10 | Saroz | maybe I should just drop it |
| 21:57.19 | Pneumatus | i could commit a fix to se-aura 2.0 that works in wotlk also, but im scared i'd get shouted at |
| 21:57.19 | Saroz | meh, gonna fix it, fuck it |
| 21:57.21 | nevcairiel | combatlog events arent accurate enough |
| 21:57.27 | Saroz | add some if Wrath then |
| 21:57.38 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: example? |
| 21:58.07 | Saroz | besides, I need :HasMagicType() |
| 21:58.13 | Pneumatus | is anyone gonna shout at me if i fix se-aura 2.0? |
| 21:58.18 | nymbia | who can i talk to with a design question on AceConfigDialog3? |
| 21:58.21 | Saroz | Im fixing it |
| 21:58.55 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel is the Ace3 answering bot :P |
| 21:59.03 | nymbia | lol |
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| 21:59.48 | sylvanaar | "Does ace3 do..." - "no, why the fuck would you need to do that" |
| 21:59.52 | CIA-45 | 03Allara * r80143 10HitsMode/HitsMode.lua: HitsMode: - Couple minor fixes |
| 21:59.59 | Pneumatus | Saroz: Lines 280 and 372, change if unit == "player" then to if unit == "player" and not WotLK then |
| 22:00.03 | nymbia | nevcairiel: the documentation says the callbacks should be getting uniform args, and reason that .confirm functions don't get passed the values? |
| 22:00.08 | Pneumatus | and add a local WotLK in somewhere at the top :) |
| 22:00.10 | Saroz | Pneumatus roger |
| 22:00.22 | nymbia | s/and reason/any reason/ |
| 22:00.29 | sylvanaar | "How do I do ... in Ace3" "Use Ace3-Foo-Foo2-Foo3-Foo4" |
| 22:01.21 | nevcairiel | nymbia: from what i see, they do get the info table |
| 22:01.24 | Resa | 08 |
| 22:01.34 | nymbia | nevcairiel: right, but i want them to get the args in ... too |
| 22:01.43 | nevcairiel | what args? |
| 22:01.45 | Resa | crap. Trying to change the channel on my tv, and it input that. sorry. >.< |
| 22:02.25 | nymbia | nevcairiel: the data that's pending for the set function. gets passed to validate through ..., but confirm just gets info |
| 22:02.40 | nymbia | nevcairiel: i want to use the input to decide if there's a confirm box or now |
| 22:02.45 | nymbia | s/now/not/ |
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| 22:04.42 | nevcairiel | talk to nargiddley or how his name is spelled |
| 22:04.52 | sylvanaar | you may need to make your own set/commit functions |
| 22:05.14 | nymbia | well, i'm assuming it's an oversight |
| 22:05.27 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r80144 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: Fix SEA-2.0 for WoTLK |
| 22:05.30 | nymbia | "All callback receive a standardized set of arguments: (info, value[, value2, ...])." |
| 22:05.58 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r80145 10Broker2FuBar/core.lua: Broker2FuBar: added support for the following attributes : tooltip, tooltiptext, OnEnter, OnLeave. |
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| 22:06.20 | Saroz | anyone on beta I can invite for raid? |
| 22:06.35 | CIA-45 | 03phanx * r80146 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (Core.lua GridStatusHealingReduced.toc README.TXT): |
| 22:06.35 | CIA-45 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 22:06.35 | CIA-45 | - Add ruRU translations (contributed by XisRaa) |
| 22:06.45 | nymbia | Saroz: im on US PvP alliance |
| 22:06.47 | sylvanaar | i think they meant that "info" was standardized |
| 22:06.59 | Saroz | EN PVE Alliance plx |
| 22:07.00 | Saroz | :S |
| 22:07.35 | sylvanaar | afk warhammer |
| 22:08.44 | nevcairiel | nymbia: finishing ace3 quartz already? *hides* |
| 22:08.46 | nymbia | i dunno, doesnt make sense to give those to validate but not confirm, and it's not like it requires any sort of functional change beyond passing those in |
| 22:09.01 | Saroz | god damnit, give raid invite in beta :S |
| 22:09.03 | sylvanaar | omg - game is currently closed? |
| 22:09.05 | nymbia | nevcairiel: maybe if i could get config to cooperate ;) |
| 22:09.31 | nevcairiel | narg lives in NZ, so he should be coming on soon, bringt it up with him |
| 22:09.34 | nevcairiel | he designed all that |
| 22:09.43 | nymbia | nevcairiel: working on spellbinder at the moment, but i thought i might as well get a feel for the final versions of the libs on something simpler |
| 22:09.56 | nymbia | simpler than quartz, that is |
| 22:10.01 | Saroz | wtf they removed ManaBarColor |
| 22:10.28 | nevcairiel | they didnt, they moved it |
| 22:10.33 | Saroz | moved it? |
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| 22:10.59 | Saroz | PowerBarColor |
| 22:11.16 | nevcairiel | PowerBarColor |
| 22:11.20 | nevcairiel | damn you're faster =P |
| 22:11.25 | Saroz | ! |
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| 22:13.34 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r80147 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Ready for WoTLK, it seems |
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| 22:14.07 | Saroz | LibHealComm-3.0 dont work prob. in wrath |
| 22:14.26 | nevcairiel | i beleted it |
| 22:14.32 | nevcairiel | see, thats why i made it optional |
| 22:14.34 | DARKGuy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDlf6hA6TY <- roflmao XD |
| 22:14.38 | Saroz | :p |
| 22:14.56 | Fisker- | i hate you nevcairiel |
| 22:15.02 | Fisker- | but nymbia is my bestest friend |
| 22:15.15 | nymbia | damn straight! |
| 22:15.30 | nevcairiel | but Fisker- is all, except straight |
| 22:15.46 | nymbia | true enough |
| 22:16.10 | Corgan | is it just me or does Sniff not work on beta :( |
| 22:16.19 | nevcairiel | QQ :( http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765568321&pageNo=1&sid=1#4 |
| 22:16.30 | Corgan | Fisker-, Ilu |
| 22:16.34 | nymbia | Corgan: havent tried it yet, whats it do? |
| 22:16.51 | nevcairiel | Sniff is that item sniffer, no? |
| 22:16.53 | Corgan | yes |
| 22:16.55 | nymbia | yeah its mine |
| 22:16.58 | Corgan | ^^ |
| 22:17.05 | nymbia | errors or just no results>? |
| 22:17.21 | Corgan | using the slash command doesn't work |
| 22:17.23 | nevcairiel | now where does vhaarr idle these days, wtb fixed closetgnome |
| 22:17.29 | Fisker- | Corgan i hate you |
| 22:17.29 | nevcairiel | ~seen vhaarr |
| 22:17.33 | purl | vhaarr <n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 6h 13m 38s ago, saying: 'Kaelten: ah, well I can poke you from time to time :P'. |
| 22:17.33 | Corgan | just gives the /help message |
| 22:17.39 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 22:18.02 | sb | meh - need some help with new hardware |
| 22:18.04 | nymbia | Corgan: ok, probably some error or other.. i'll take a look before too long |
| 22:18.10 | Corgan | kay <3 |
| 22:18.33 | sb | http://bdv.db6.org/~sb/new_hardware.pdf <-- any comments on that? (some bad component that needs to be replaced :p) |
| 22:18.45 | Funkeh` | Hmm |
| 22:18.54 | Funkeh` | I wonder if that means why might not se boss mods in 3.0 either |
| 22:19.00 | Funkeh` | :< |
| 22:19.35 | CIA-45 | 03Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate 07WotLK * r80148 10ACP/ (8 files): ACP: new WotLK UI folders are now detected properly |
| 22:21.10 | nevcairiel | huh? |
| 22:21.21 | Fisker- | You should feel bad sb |
| 22:21.29 | sb | Fisker-: okay |
| 22:21.29 | sb | why? |
| 22:21.31 | Corgan | you shoudl feel bad Fisker- |
| 22:21.34 | Fisker- | CPU Lüfter? |
| 22:21.34 | sb | and give you some money? |
| 22:21.35 | Corgan | because I want you. |
| 22:21.37 | Fisker- | tsk |
| 22:21.39 | Tinyboom | sb: looking ok by me, but would rather take a Thermalright ULTRA120 Extreme as cpu cooler, with a noctua fan it's really silent:) |
| 22:21.40 | sb | Fisker-: bleh... |
| 22:21.56 | Fisker- | oh and i hate ati |
| 22:22.02 | nocts | Thinking about moving to a new server, PvP or RPPvP. Any recommendations? |
| 22:22.04 | nevcairiel | i agree, ati is bad |
| 22:22.16 | sb | so better get 260 nvidia? |
| 22:22.20 | Tinyboom | aye sb |
| 22:22.22 | Corgan | I'm killing you right now Fisker- |
| 22:22.30 | Fisker- | no i'm killing you Corgan |
| 22:22.31 | nocts | Is ATI really that far behind nvidia still? I heard crossfire killed sli. |
| 22:22.38 | Corgan | I was killing you first |
| 22:22.49 | Tinyboom | nvidia more stable imo |
| 22:23.01 | nevcairiel | even if crossfire kills sli |
| 22:23.05 | nevcairiel | you need 2 cards for that =P |
| 22:23.06 | Fisker- | actually i was killing you first Corgan |
| 22:23.23 | Fisker- | not to mention that AMD is in danger, danger, etc. |
| 22:23.37 | Fisker- | Their stock is barely worth the paper it's written on |
| 22:23.38 | Corgan | I'm killing you from the inside fisker |
| 22:24.51 | sb | okay nvidia then :p |
| 22:24.57 | sb | same price, so doesnt matter |
| 22:25.02 | kenlyric | 2 cards is a tiny, tiny niche market |
| 22:25.02 | nevcairiel | also |
| 22:25.06 | nevcairiel | dont buy at alternate |
| 22:25.20 | kenlyric | and typically don't include your priciest, profitiest cards |
| 22:25.38 | sb | nevcairiel: my other dealer doesnt have graphic cards in stock :/ |
| 22:25.48 | kenlyric | where it matters, the $500 new cards full of profit, nvidia keeps trumping |
| 22:25.53 | JerleMinara | think i'm gonna concede defeat on this rune bar, i'm not even smart enough to get the damn thing to show up in the pitbull modules |
| 22:25.55 | sb | nevcairiel: fortknox, really <3 :o |
| 22:25.59 | nevcairiel | you can usually get a cheaper price just by checking some price comparison page |
| 22:26.12 | sb | dont know if you know them |
| 22:27.33 | sb | Gigabyte N26-896H-B 260GTX 896MB <-- good one? |
| 22:27.44 | nocts | Thinking about moving to a new server, PvP or RPPvP. Any recommendations? << |
| 22:27.58 | nocts | Servernames, not pvp/rppvp choice. |
| 22:28.05 | nevcairiel | US/EU? |
| 22:28.12 | nocts | US, sadly. |
| 22:28.17 | nevcairiel | dunno then : |
| 22:28.30 | nocts | Give me your body |
| 22:28.33 | nocts | And I'll give you mine. |
| 22:28.36 | nocts | shit, that went too slow |
| 22:28.46 | nocts | I meant swap me places. -.- |
| 22:28.49 | JerleMinara | anyone familiar with pitbull modules mind taking a look at my prototype module and telling me why the damn thing isn't loading? |
| 22:30.21 | Tuller | nevcairiel: combuctor updated :P |
| 22:30.35 | nevcairiel | wotlk fixes? |
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| 22:32.29 | nevcairiel | man gcode i slow today |
| 22:32.40 | Tuller | nevcairiel: + resizable frame |
| 22:32.57 | nevcairiel | now if i could just login to the beta |
| 22:33.44 | nevcairiel | yay it works again |
| 22:35.07 | nevcairiel | Tuller: there is some funny behaviour which seems to come from clamp to screen :D |
| 22:35.20 | Tuller | explain funny :P |
| 22:35.22 | nevcairiel | if i move the resize handle really fast towards the edge of the screen |
| 22:35.27 | Arrowmaster | Tuller: what about bagnon? |
| 22:35.33 | nevcairiel | it jumps to the middle :) |
| 22:35.39 | Tuller | Arrowmaster: in theory worksih |
| 22:35.48 | Tuller | but i've not put out a non svn build |
| 22:35.57 | nevcairiel | but nice work on the resizing |
| 22:37.35 | Arrowmaster | well i update directly from your gcode svn |
| 22:39.25 | Tuller | as long as you're on the wrath branch, it should work |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-45 | 03nymbia 07WotLK * r80149 10SpellBinder/ (SpellBinder.lua SpellBinder.toc libs/): |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-45 | SpellBinder: |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-45 | - Spells working |
| 22:42.24 | CIA-45 | - TODO: update translations. Add macros, items, pet spells. |
| 22:43.16 | nymbia | and by "working" i mean "working with my locally modified AceConfig" |
| 22:45.48 | CIA-45 | 03endeavour * r80150 10Endeavours_BuffMod/ (Core.lua Endeavours_BuffMod.toc Options.lua): |
| 22:45.48 | CIA-45 | Endeavours_BuffMod: |
| 22:45.48 | CIA-45 | - sync fix |
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| 22:57.00 | CIA-45 | 03nymbia 07WotLK * r80151 10SpellBinder/ (5 files): |
| 22:57.00 | CIA-45 | SpellBinder: |
| 22:57.00 | CIA-45 | - Bugfix, redo translations |
| 23:09.13 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r80152 10Broker2FuBar/ (Broker2FuBar.toc core.lua options.lua): Broker2FuBar: now provides some configuration. |
| 23:11.22 | Trell- | my rapeage with bloodworms: http://www.wegame.com/watch/WotLK_Beta_Death_Knight_Bloodworms/ |
| 23:13.47 | Funkeh` | can't see anyting in that |
| 23:14.02 | Funkeh` | can't believe people actually turn off damage over head for scrolling unreadable damage |
| 23:14.25 | Trell- | it's Parrot >_< |
| 23:14.28 | Trell- | <3 parrot. |
| 23:14.32 | JerleMinara | parrot is amazing |
| 23:14.45 | Funkeh` | your screel is full of crap |
| 23:14.48 | Funkeh` | constant text |
| 23:14.53 | Funkeh` | BOOM BOOM BOOM |
| 23:14.58 | Trell- | its only because my bloodworms are going mental |
| 23:14.59 | Trell- | tahts all |
| 23:15.02 | Trell- | *thats |
| 23:15.17 | Funkeh` | when you raid? Do you pay attention? With a UI like that I'd get so used to ignoring text it would be horrid |
| 23:15.51 | Funkeh` | I see why a lot of guilds ask for UI screenshots to new apps these days >< |
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| 23:16.04 | JerleMinara | uh? |
| 23:16.08 | JerleMinara | it only shows stuff that affects you |
| 23:16.20 | JerleMinara | and dks are way spammier than most classes |
| 23:16.21 | Funkeh` | An overload of stuff |
| 23:16.38 | JerleMinara | i come from a MUD background, if you're familiar with that. I can process most of that information |
| 23:16.38 | Funkeh` | I've played a Dk for several days and my screen is a lot cleaner than that |
| 23:16.45 | dieck_ | nice music though :) |
| 23:17.01 | Trell- | Funkeh`; I love the spam. |
| 23:17.03 | *** join/#wowace DARKGuy (n=DARKGuy@201.242.111.51) |
| 23:17.09 | Funkeh` | I don't |
| 23:17.15 | JerleMinara | i like to know how much i'm hitting for and how much i'm getting hit for |
| 23:17.18 | Trell- | besides, its down to each persons playstyle surely - one mans gold is another mans copper. |
| 23:17.20 | Trell- | so to speak |
| 23:17.30 | JerleMinara | I can process most of the spam on the sides and it helps me know what's going on. I read fast :P |
| 23:17.39 | JerleMinara | started on text-based RPGs so it feels familiar |
| 23:17.39 | Trell- | it wouldn't be anywhere near that spammy if I didn't have so many Bloodworms spawning, which is kind of the point of the video :P |
| 23:17.41 | Funkeh` | JerleMinara, Welcome to blizz's default damage over head |
| 23:17.45 | JerleMinara | uh |
| 23:17.47 | dieck_ | the rest of the interface looks quite tidy :) |
| 23:17.52 | JerleMinara | blizz's damage is completely limited |
| 23:17.58 | JerleMinara | 95% of the spam in that thing is from the bloodworms |
| 23:18.02 | Funkeh` | yeah, to necesary information |
| 23:18.13 | Trell- | Funkeh` - thats what I'm trying to show in that video |
| 23:18.18 | JerleMinara | i consider spell cooldowns necessary |
| 23:18.19 | Ellipsis | [4:15:41 pm] <JerleMinara> and dks are way spammier than most classes <<naw, blood dk == affliction lock :P |
| 23:18.19 | JerleMinara | damage type |
| 23:18.23 | JerleMinara | i want to know when I crit |
| 23:18.24 | Funkeh` | I'm sorry but you think I care if my worm heals me for 10? |
| 23:18.24 | JerleMinara | that sort of thing |
| 23:18.32 | Funkeh` | completely useless spam |
| 23:18.33 | JerleMinara | Funkeh: that's why it'll be filtered out dude |
| 23:18.39 | Funkeh` | grab a meter and total the healing |
| 23:18.44 | Trell- | Funkeh`; the idea of it is to show you how insane Bloodworm spam is at the moment |
| 23:18.45 | dieck_ | with sct, I have simply adjusted to now show low dmg/healing. so our shadow priest healing is ignored and I only see big incoming heals :) |
| 23:18.46 | JerleMinara | you're raging against parrot when the issue is DK spam |
| 23:18.46 | Trell- | >_< |
| 23:18.52 | JerleMinara | parrot is amazing |
| 23:19.03 | Funkeh` | What? |
| 23:19.13 | dieck_ | doesn't parrot have a threshold value, too? |
| 23:19.14 | Funkeh` | Did I even mention parrot once? |
| 23:19.18 | Trell- | and dieck_: Soulwax are the shit ;) |
| 23:19.22 | Funkeh` | The discussion is the spam |
| 23:19.23 | Diao | er |
| 23:19.31 | Diao | thought you could set parrot to throttle |
| 23:19.33 | Diao | so it'd be like |
| 23:19.40 | Ellipsis | you can |
| 23:19.41 | Diao | +40958 (400 heals) |
| 23:19.43 | JerleMinara | correction, you're raging against a spammy interface which is only spammy as part of a subset of a single class that can be easily metered out |
| 23:19.44 | Funkeh` | I have a throttle in MSBT for my events |
| 23:19.50 | Diao | in a 3 sec period |
| 23:19.51 | Diao | or something |
| 23:19.54 | Funkeh` | But I would never butcher damage done by putting into MSBT |
| 23:19.54 | JerleMinara | and you're missing the whole point of the video, which is to showcase the bloodworms |
| 23:20.23 | Funkeh` | JerleMinara, unreadable, blocking the netire screen? |
| 23:20.27 | Funkeh` | 1/10 |
| 23:20.32 | Diao | anyway from what i've herad |
| 23:20.37 | Gnarfoz | he just likes to blah blah his opinions out because he's always right ;) |
| 23:20.37 | JerleMinara | ... |
| 23:20.37 | Diao | death knights are getting even more op |
| 23:20.39 | Diao | lol |
| 23:20.48 | JerleMinara | whatever |
| 23:20.56 | JerleMinara | not gonna continue wasting my energy arguing with you. keep on keepin' on brotha |
| 23:21.05 | Funkeh` | JerleMinara, do that again with blizz damage and you would be able to make out everything |
| 23:21.09 | Diao | basically impossible to die between blood worms, vamp thingy and blood strike |
| 23:21.28 | Trell- | Diao; I can go on like that without ever stopping - thanks to just spamming death strike |
| 23:21.29 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: enable blizz FCT and your screen would be way more spammed with stuff :P |
| 23:21.33 | JerleMinara | because Blizz damage filters pet damage by default |
| 23:21.44 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, I used blizz FCT for months fine |
| 23:21.46 | Gnarfoz | Trell- could just as well have used either filtering or throttling |
| 23:21.54 | Funkeh` | But the discussion isn't personal events |
| 23:21.58 | Funkeh` | such as block dodge etc |
| 23:21.59 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: oh, for months, you've been playing a DK? ;D |
| 23:22.06 | JerleMinara | blizz FCT works fine on every class except DK :P |
| 23:22.06 | Funkeh` | it's damage done against an enemy |
| 23:22.09 | Funkeh` | not yourself |
| 23:22.36 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, This isn't class specific |
| 23:22.39 | Gnarfoz | yes it is |
| 23:22.40 | JerleMinara | yes it is |
| 23:22.43 | Funkeh` | no, it's not |
| 23:22.45 | Gnarfoz | that's the whole reason for the video |
| 23:22.47 | JerleMinara | no other class in the game is anywhere near that spammy |
| 23:22.58 | JerleMinara | the whole point of the video is that you can summon like 30 bloodworms and things go crazy |
| 23:22.59 | Funkeh` | You think other classes don't spam damage? |
| 23:23.02 | Gnarfoz | would you just keep out of the discussion if you're not even going to talk about the same topic >_> |
| 23:23.03 | JerleMinara | not like that |
| 23:23.14 | JerleMinara | nowhere near like that |
| 23:23.26 | Funkeh` | JerleMinara, grab a warlock and dot up 10 mobs |
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| 23:23.32 | dieck_ | I'd say next in row would be afflic locks with lots of dots :) |
| 23:23.37 | Funkeh` | your parrot will look the same |
| 23:23.49 | JerleMinara | nope |
| 23:23.53 | Gnarfoz | btw: default settings for parrot don't look like that. |
| 23:24.00 | Trell- | technically not, because it would all be one sided |
| 23:24.01 | JerleMinara | 1250 Corruption (10 hits) is what'll you see |
| 23:24.04 | Gnarfoz | with blizzard dmg text, you'll have dmg numbers all over the place |
| 23:24.04 | JerleMinara | whenever it ticks |
| 23:24.06 | Trell- | ie; damage done |
| 23:24.14 | JerleMinara | parrot defaults to compressing those hits |
| 23:24.18 | Funkeh` | warlocks have dots that heal themselves |
| 23:24.20 | Gnarfoz | while sct addons can, and do, throttle |
| 23:24.23 | Funkeh` | put on that health funnel |
| 23:24.27 | Trell- | siphon life |
| 23:24.28 | Funkeh` | lots of spam and heal |
| 23:24.43 | Funkeh` | but healing isn't what I'm talking about |
| 23:24.44 | Gnarfoz | that's what filtering and throttles are for. and they're on by default, he disabled them |
| 23:24.46 | Trell- | but Funkeh`; I play a warlock too, and I can guarantee you it's nowhere near as spammy as that. |
| 23:24.47 | Funkeh` | it's damage done |
| 23:24.53 | JerleMinara | honestly guys |
| 23:24.57 | Gnarfoz | blizz damage done is all over the place. |
| 23:24.58 | JerleMinara | I think Funkeh's just trolling us at this point |
| 23:24.59 | Trell- | Gnarfoz; actually I haven't disabled anything, thats straight outta the box. |
| 23:25.00 | JerleMinara | to get a reaction |
| 23:25.07 | JerleMinara | Gnarf: no there's no filtering/throttles on bloodworms |
| 23:25.10 | Gnarfoz | Trell-: certainly not, throttling is on by default |
| 23:25.10 | Funkeh` | JerleMinara, Trolling you? lol? |
| 23:25.11 | JerleMinara | not out of the box |
| 23:25.16 | Trell- | Gnarfoz; certainly yes. |
| 23:25.22 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 23:25.22 | Trell- | I've changed no settings on it. |
| 23:25.25 | Diao | maybe throttling for pet isn't enabled |
| 23:25.27 | Trell- | I promise you |
| 23:25.28 | Diao | because blood worms are pets |
| 23:25.30 | Funkeh` | JerleMinara, Are you joking around or can't you handle debate? |
| 23:25.34 | Diao | and normally you wouldn't need throttling for a pet |
| 23:25.36 | JerleMinara | Funkeh: yes, I refuse to believe anyone can be as totally obtuse as you are being right now without it being intentional |
| 23:25.40 | Aeyan | Shadow Priest can crank out some righteous spam if the group is hurt and in need of mana =P |
| 23:25.44 | Aeyan | If you don't turn anything off |
| 23:25.51 | Diao | afaik they only have hot/dot throttling at this point |
| 23:25.52 | JerleMinara | Diao: that's actually probably it |
| 23:25.58 | JerleMinara | i'd bet you it is |
| 23:26.00 | Diao | so they just need to add in a pet throttle :) |
| 23:26.09 | Zyndrome | Shadow Priests can also go emo and reroll , like my GM just did |
| 23:26.09 | Funkeh` | JerleMinara, shame you have such a rubbish opinion, shame I don't care about it |
| 23:26.13 | Aeyan | Bleh to having pet damage scroll on my screen anyway |
| 23:26.15 | JerleMinara | parrot's got some issues with DKs |
| 23:26.22 | Funkeh` | If you're not going to add constuctive critisism then stop talking |
| 23:26.38 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: you aren't doing to well either, so shut up as requested earlier :p |
| 23:26.42 | Gnarfoz | *too |
| 23:26.53 | JerleMinara | like due to the way runes work you end up getting spammed by your trees refresing |
| 23:26.59 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, I'm debating the use of damage over screen instead of over head |
| 23:27.06 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: which is not what we're debating. |
| 23:27.07 | Funkeh` | But clearly you can't see that either |
| 23:27.14 | Funkeh` | I started the debate.. |
| 23:27.17 | Gnarfoz | I can see it very clearly. you are off topic. |
| 23:27.31 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 23:27.33 | JerleMinara | yeah |
| 23:27.34 | Funkeh` | You can read that text? |
| 23:27.36 | JerleMinara | there's no throttles on pet |
| 23:27.42 | JerleMinara | i can btw |
| 23:27.49 | JerleMinara | very easily |
| 23:27.49 | Aeyan | What are you asking for? A way to throttle outgoing pet damage? |
| 23:27.50 | Gnarfoz | if it's not on fucking WeGame but on my screen, yes I can |
| 23:27.59 | Funkeh` | It needs a throttle yes |
| 23:28.25 | Gnarfoz | JerleMinara: that's easily remedied by adding all appropriate spells to a cooldown group for blood/frost/unholy |
| 23:28.31 | Arrowmaster | i think they are guardians not pets though |
| 23:28.36 | Gnarfoz | it has a throttle. enable it 8F |
| 23:28.55 | JerleMinara | Gnarf: I added in a class-based check |
| 23:28.59 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz, Well my point is that at any size you can *always* read blizz damage |
| 23:29.09 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: not that I'd want to, because I'd have to go looking for it |
| 23:29.28 | Funkeh` | Looking for it? |
| 23:29.31 | Gnarfoz | I don't wanna go looking for damage I do archimonde, because he's fucking huge? |
| 23:29.34 | Gnarfoz | it's over HIS HEAD |
| 23:29.40 | Diao | yeah you can't see damaeg on bosses |
| 23:29.41 | Diao | ever. |
| 23:29.42 | Funkeh` | The fixed that a while ago |
| 23:29.43 | Diao | it's way too high |
| 23:29.53 | Diao | unless it just appears in the middle of your screen now or something |
| 23:29.55 | Gnarfoz | addons fixed that 3 years ago |
| 23:29.56 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:30.01 | Funkeh` | It appears at the middle-top ish of the screen |
| 23:30.10 | JerleMinara | and Gnarf it's a more complicated issue than just adding blocks like that |
| 23:30.12 | Funkeh` | Not grat but better than it used to be |
| 23:30.13 | Gnarfoz | well, at least they didn't ignore it :) |
| 23:30.33 | JerleMinara | actually wait no it's not |
| 23:30.34 | JerleMinara | hm |
| 23:30.39 | Arrowmaster | they basicly just did a clamptoscreen on it |
| 23:30.51 | Arrowmaster | not that its actually a frame though |
| 23:31.11 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I'd rather have my dmg all in one place (or attached to nameplates) than somewhere near the mob I'm doing damage to (because several dmg numbers push each other aside etc) |
| 23:32.01 | Funkeh` | I have quite a reasonable amount of spam (in my opinion) in MSBT already from incoming eents/damage, which is why it seems cleaner to have it over the head. instead of like left/right |
| 23:32.06 | Trell- | anyway getting back to the topic, I suspect that Death Strike and/or the Bloodworm talent will be changed soon :P |
| 23:32.23 | Funkeh` | they will hard limit the worms |
| 23:32.23 | JerleMinara | bloodworm's being removed from reliance on death strike |
| 23:32.34 | JerleMinara | and also they're being toned down |
| 23:32.38 | Trell- | mmmm |
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| 23:33.08 | Trell- | I saw someone soloing Durn with simple Death Strike spam too earlier |
| 23:33.37 | Arrowmaster | having it on any strike and a hard limit on worms would be perty sweet still though |
| 23:33.50 | JerleMinara | that's the impression i got from Ghotscrawler's post |
| 23:33.58 | Funkeh` | hard limit is the most likely choice to be honest |
| 23:34.07 | Funkeh` | because you can't really nerf the health etc, it isn't really much |
| 23:34.17 | JerleMinara | hey question Trell, do you have a shaman or a hunter and use parrot with 'em? |
| 23:34.17 | Arrowmaster | rather have a limit on worms would be better than nerfing the amount they heal |
| 23:34.36 | JerleMinara | Arrow: they still heal like 100hp/s each |
| 23:34.48 | Trell- | yes JerleMinara |
| 23:34.50 | Trell- | a Shaman. |
| 23:34.56 | JerleMinara | Trell-: what's the functionality with shocks? |
| 23:35.02 | JerleMinara | does it just throw up a message saying "Shocks Ready" |
| 23:35.03 | Trell- | http://www.ftvideo.nl/board/viewtopic.php?t=3522 |
| 23:35.09 | Trell- | whoops |
| 23:35.14 | Trell- | http://www.wegame.com/watch/Shaman_Spirit_Wolves/ |
| 23:35.17 | Trell- | there you go |
| 23:35.39 | JerleMinara | yeah it does |
| 23:36.22 | JerleMinara | shit, just adding all the skills to parrot's grouping function won't solve the issue |
| 23:36.58 | JerleMinara | Because you don't want a message when the trees refresh, but you do want a message when a long c/d rune ability refreshes. hm |
| 23:37.34 | Arrowmaster | still no api to get the cooldown of a spell is there? |
| 23:38.04 | ag` | which unit frame addons work in wotlk? |
| 23:38.09 | Trell- | aguf |
| 23:38.14 | Trell- | pitbull (sans aura module) |
| 23:38.21 | Trell- | which is why im using aguf :P |
| 23:38.24 | Aeyan | Aura module works with a very small fix |
| 23:38.30 | Aeyan | If you're using that |
| 23:38.37 | Aeyan | oUF doesn't work yet |
| 23:38.42 | Trell- | bleh cba to change all over again |
| 23:38.45 | Funkeh` | BlizzUF! |
| 23:38.51 | Arrowmaster | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellCooldown |
| 23:38.53 | Trell- | screw blizzs unit frames |
| 23:38.58 | ag` | BlizzUF is fail :D |
| 23:39.00 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 23:39.03 | Arrowmaster | does GetSpellCooldown() work on spells that arent on cooldown? |
| 23:39.06 | Aeyan | BlizzUF has some problems with the rune bar =P |
| 23:39.11 | JerleMinara | no |
| 23:39.14 | Funkeh` | nope |
| 23:39.17 | ag` | I need to make a rune bar for aguf |
| 23:39.19 | Funkeh` | thats cooldown problems with runes |
| 23:39.22 | Arrowmaster | then wtf is arg3 for? |
| 23:39.23 | ag` | that is tomorrows plan |
| 23:39.57 | Funkeh` | ag`, count on lots of bugs |
| 23:40.03 | JerleMinara | i'm trying to think through how to make parrot track cooldowns for rune abilities but not spam the hell out of things |
| 23:40.09 | ag` | Funkeh`, why? :) |
| 23:40.21 | Funkeh` | the cooldowns are pretty messy at the moment |
| 23:40.29 | Arrowmaster | JerleMinara: its ugly but you could scan the tooltip of all abilitys on load to find out which really have cooldowns, or just make an internal list that has to be kept updated |
| 23:40.30 | Funkeh` | especially hen you're really mixing up moves |
| 23:40.44 | Funkeh` | some cooldowns reset when they aren't yet usable |
| 23:40.50 | JerleMinara | not only that funkeh |
| 23:40.50 | Aeyan | My beta interface is about 90% working |
| 23:40.56 | JerleMinara | but what it does is if you don't have any runes of a type |
| 23:41.00 | JerleMinara | (say you're out of frost) |
| 23:41.01 | Aeyan | Lack of bar timers for my priest hurts though |
| 23:41.16 | JerleMinara | when you get a frost, it fires a spell ready event on every ability that uses forst |
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| 23:41.35 | Trell- | I want to go run an instance on my lock to really put haunt to the test, but I'd never be able to stay under the tanks threat, on any mobs >_< |
| 23:41.47 | Arrowmaster | what about abilitys like deathstrike that use frost and unholy? |
| 23:41.52 | Trell- | but its damn nice when questing atm |
| 23:41.52 | Aeyan | You eat that no salvation so hard, lock =P |
| 23:41.52 | JerleMinara | it fires those |
| 23:41.55 | JerleMinara | so if I run out of frost |
| 23:42.00 | Arrowmaster | does it fire the spell ready event if you dont have any unholy? |
| 23:42.04 | JerleMinara | when i get a frost back I get like 6 ability refresh messages |
| 23:42.04 | JerleMinara | yes |
| 23:42.09 | JerleMinara | hang on i have a screenshot |
| 23:42.10 | Trell- | Aeyan; have you seen the haunt bug atm? |
| 23:42.16 | Arrowmaster | that would be why omnicc gets screwed up then |
| 23:42.27 | Aeyan | No, it's hard to keep track of all the game breaking bugs at the moment, hehe |
| 23:42.34 | Aeyan | But that's what betas are for, I guess |
| 23:42.39 | Trell- | http://khorium.mmo-champion.com/murlocarmy/trell/beta_general/haunt_fuxored4.jpg |
| 23:42.42 | JerleMinara | Arrowmaster: http://img.waffleimages.com/c9f03f17c03a82a56aca4dcc0bb7580e45c87e6e/WoWScrnShot_081008_031504.jpg |
| 23:42.46 | Trell- | look at the damage my dots are doing. |
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| 23:42.53 | JerleMinara | look at the chat window |
| 23:43.22 | Aeyan | Oh, is it suffering from the refresh thing too? |
| 23:43.25 | Aeyan | 'suffering' |
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| 23:43.46 | Trell- | as soon as you put haunt up, your shadow dots seem to increase by a shit load :P |
| 23:43.58 | JerleMinara | cooldowns are completely whack on DK abilities atm |
| 23:43.59 | Aeyan | Saw a video of a warlock with ~56 million sustained dps from corrupt + shadowbolt + t5 set effect |
| 23:44.08 | Trell- | yeah, I don't have 2 pc t5 |
| 23:44.16 | Arrowmaster | 1476 siphon life seems wrong |
| 23:44.22 | Trell- | just whack an instacast dot up, then haunt |
| 23:44.23 | Trell- | and sit back |
| 23:44.27 | Trell- | dead within a couple of ticks |
| 23:44.38 | JerleMinara | i'm hoping they roll back the change they put in in 8770 |
| 23:44.44 | JerleMinara | that's causing all the cooldown issues |
| 23:45.24 | Arrowmaster | wow shadowbite looks gimp from that screenshot |
| 23:46.26 | Trell- | only because I have a total of 1 dot on I suspect |
| 23:46.44 | Arrowmaster | but its 5% more damage per dot right? |
| 23:46.47 | Trell- | yeah |
| 23:46.52 | Arrowmaster | and only counts your own dots i bet |
| 23:47.04 | Arrowmaster | base damage needs to be higher imho |
| 23:47.05 | Trell- | no idea, I haven't instanced or partied with my lock yet |
| 23:47.34 | Arrowmaster | i havent even copied my lock over yet |
| 23:47.57 | Trell- | my lock, shammy and rogue are all over |
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| 23:48.16 | Trell- | im not impressed with enhance damage, although to be fair my enhance set is pretty crap, mainly dungeon blues |
| 23:48.24 | Trell- | but resto is awesome. |
| 23:48.59 | Trell- | im 99% sure that when I level my shaman, gonna stay resto and just instance, thankfully the damage from casting isn't bad either so I can quest too if need be |
| 23:49.08 | Pkekyo| | http://www.duzons.com/kei/blah/study-fail.jpg |
| 23:49.48 | Aeyan | Top of the shaman resto tree looks awesome |
| 23:51.04 | Trell- | when they fix ancestral awakening it'll be better |
| 23:51.17 | Trell- | but spirit link and tidal waves are simply awesome, and I can't wait to raid with Tidal Waves |
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| 23:52.20 | harl | where did my bankstack minimap icon go.. |
| 23:52.57 | Funkeh` | hm? |
| 23:53.02 | Funkeh` | I think it was removed |
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| 23:56.13 | harl | why's that? |
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| 23:56.54 | Funkeh` | FuBar plugins was replaced with a LDB plugin |
| 23:57.02 | Funkeh` | I believe you can still get it as a separate addon though |
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| 23:58.34 | p3lim | anyone know if Rabbit uses irc? |
| 23:58.46 | [Endeavour] | ~seen rabbit |
| 23:58.48 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@LSt-Amand-152-33-1-196.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 206d 12h 9m 33s ago, saying: 'Hi'. |
| 23:59.21 | Funkeh` | He is known as vhaarr on IRC |
| 23:59.26 | p3lim | aha |
| 23:59.26 | Funkeh` | and he been busy with RL lately |
