| 00:00.00 | Kemayo | Honestly, StatBlockCore/Fortress would work more or less. They just both have crap config stuff at the moment, so I can't be bothered to spend an hour fiddling with them. I suspect this will improve with time. |
| 00:00.18 | NeoTron | ButtonBin FTW >:-) |
| 00:00.26 | NeoTron | although it's not really a replacement for fubar |
| 00:00.48 | Kemayo | I do like it, though. I suspect I'll be using it as part of my eventual solution. |
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| 00:01.00 | Kemayo | Especially once you get that collapse-down stuff in. |
| 00:01.06 | NeoTron | heh yeah |
| 00:01.35 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79751 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP.toc: |
| 00:01.35 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 00:01.35 | CIA-45 | - TOC update |
| 00:01.35 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79750 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/AtlasLoot_WorldLoot.toc: |
| 00:01.35 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 00:01.35 | CIA-45 | - TOC update |
| 00:01.37 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79752 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/AtlasLoot_RepFactions.toc: |
| 00:01.39 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 00:01.41 | CIA-45 | - TOC update |
| 00:01.45 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79753 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/AtlasLoot_OldInstances.toc: |
| 00:01.47 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 00:01.49 | CIA-45 | - TOC update |
| 00:01.51 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79754 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/AtlasLoot_Crafting.toc: |
| 00:01.53 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_Crafting: |
| 00:01.55 | CIA-45 | - TOC update |
| 00:01.59 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79755 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/AtlasLoot_BCInstances.toc: |
| 00:02.01 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 00:02.03 | CIA-45 | - TOC update |
| 00:02.16 | Lanerra | Good God |
| 00:03.08 | Kemayo | NeoTron: Actually, if ButtonBin got some sort of display for .text, I might be able to use just it. |
| 00:03.22 | NeoTron | well |
| 00:03.26 | Kemayo | I'm sort of iffy about that, though. Feels out of scope. |
| 00:03.26 | NeoTron | it displays on mouse over |
| 00:03.32 | NeoTron | I experimented with it having a text field |
| 00:03.38 | NeoTron | that shows on mouse over |
| 00:03.46 | NeoTron | but really there's nothing to say I can't just show the text |
| 00:04.00 | NeoTron | in fact doing that would make it a fully useful bar and it's incredibly easy to do |
| 00:04.11 | mpop | question the CIA-45 notifications does that affect what is in wowaceupater? |
| 00:04.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:04.33 | mpop | ok thanks |
| 00:04.49 | Arrowmaster | everything in WAU is delayed |
| 00:05.23 | Kemayo | If you do add in showing the text, it might be useful to have two bins -- one for pure launchers, without text, and another for data display with text. |
| 00:07.39 | NeoTron | a per-addon displa |
| 00:07.47 | NeoTron | err.. per addon option of what to display |
| 00:07.48 | Arrowmaster | LDB displays dont communicate with each other right? |
| 00:07.53 | NeoTron | and .. there's the collapse |
| 00:09.08 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: Not as far as I know, anyway. |
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| 00:22.49 | theoddone33 | if you roll on a pvp server, transfer to pve, you can't transfer back to pvp can you? |
| 00:24.06 | Xuerian | no |
| 00:32.09 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79756 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:32.09 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 00:32.09 | CIA-45 | - More bugfixes |
| 00:40.08 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 00:40.09 | purl | [time] 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.08.04 0:40:09 GMT |
| 00:43.25 | syeren | (01:37:15) (purl) [time] 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.08.04 0:40:09 GMT |
| 00:43.28 | syeren | PURL LIES. |
| 00:43.28 | purl | the cake is a lie! |
| 00:45.04 | Zyndrome | explodes spontanously |
| 00:46.14 | fewyn | gets the broom |
| 00:51.45 | Arrowmaster | 08:40:09p (purl) [time] 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.08.04 0:40:09 GMT |
| 00:51.49 | Arrowmaster | syeren: your clock is off |
| 00:55.45 | syeren | I know. |
| 00:55.49 | syeren | I was pointing out the hour. |
| 00:55.51 | syeren | ;) |
| 00:56.45 | syeren | Goddamnit, stupid GMT rule. |
| 00:56.46 | syeren | Stupid. |
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| 01:00.19 | Xinhuan | i wonder what happens if you have both Broker2FuBar and FuBar2Broker installed, with Fubar3 and Fortress |
| 01:00.26 | Xinhuan | all active that is |
| 01:00.36 | Kemayo | I suspect it's fairly nasty. :D |
| 01:00.52 | Kemayo | Actually, it'd be fine. |
| 01:00.53 | Xinhuan | shoul one disable the other or itself? ;p |
| 01:01.22 | Kemayo | FuBar2Broker only seems to respond to FuBarPlugin-2.0. |
| 01:01.47 | Kemayo | Whereas Broker2FuBar makes FuBarPlugin-3.0 plugins. |
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| 01:02.06 | Xinhuan | does that make fubar2 plugins becomes fubar3 plugins? ;p |
| 01:02.24 | Kemayo | I suppose so. |
| 01:02.38 | Kemayo | But it wouldn't cause some massive loop that crashes the game, so I'm okay with it. |
| 01:03.10 | Kemayo | Which is what would happen if B2F made 2.0 plugins. |
| 01:03.43 | Aiiane | needs more parafox imo |
| 01:03.46 | Aiiane | *paradox |
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| 01:11.51 | Arrowmaster | well FuBar2Broker completely replaces FuBarPlugin-2.0 making them not show up on FuBar |
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| 01:40.47 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, did you update librockconsole |
| 01:40.54 | Xinhuan | it broke /dump on printing tables |
| 01:41.09 | Arrowmaster | i fixed it |
| 01:41.24 | Xinhuan | ah i'll update |
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| 01:41.31 | Arrowmaster | unless it does something really weird that i missed |
| 01:44.08 | Xinhuan | hmm wau doesn't have the propagated change yet |
| 01:44.17 | Xinhuan | oh wait it does |
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| 01:45.12 | Pkekyo| | wth is this 'anti-conformist' crap all about? |
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| 01:48.20 | Pkekyo| | ~dict conformist |
| 01:48.25 | Xinhuan | hmm my 32x32 TGA image isn't recognized by wow :( |
| 01:49.32 | Pkekyo| | oh, that's just 'cause yoiu suck |
| 01:50.18 | Pkekyo| | you* |
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| 02:14.26 | sylvanaar | there is an issue with performancefu causing the ui to sieze up for 50-100ms every second |
| 02:16.18 | sylvanaar | atm i can only reproduce it with profiling on, but it seems similar to some other reports i have seen (they claim profiling isnt on) |
| 02:16.37 | selckin | per addon memory stats = lag |
| 02:18.39 | sylvanaar | i realize that - but, I have never observed it like this before |
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| 02:25.05 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: is it just with preformancefu enabled or with the tablet being displayed too? |
| 02:25.13 | sylvanaar | just enabled |
| 02:25.20 | sylvanaar | but profiling on |
| 02:25.29 | sylvanaar | progfiling off is fine |
| 02:25.50 | Arrowmaster | because i can reproduce it right now |
| 02:26.03 | Arrowmaster | just by making the tablet show |
| 02:26.11 | sylvanaar | i dont event need that |
| 02:26.14 | Groktar | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Zealess |
| 02:26.23 | Groktar | holy intellect gems batman! |
| 02:26.46 | CIA-45 | 03neotron * r79757 10ButtonBin/ (ButtonBin.lua bin.tga): |
| 02:26.46 | CIA-45 | ButtonBin: |
| 02:26.46 | CIA-45 | - Added ability to enable/disable addons. |
| 02:26.46 | CIA-45 | - Added BB LDB object with a few actions. |
| 02:26.46 | CIA-45 | - Added ability to collapse all buttons except the ButtonBin button. |
| 02:26.47 | CIA-45 | - Some changes in how I store positions (incompatible change) to ensure that the BB button doesn't move when collapsed. |
| 02:26.50 | sylvanaar | i think its a threshold thing, and may depend on the overall cpu use |
| 02:27.02 | Arrowmaster | i have profiling disabled |
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| 02:27.33 | Arrowmaster | the update rate is way too high |
| 02:27.41 | Arrowmaster | i can tell from the fps display in the tablet |
| 02:28.00 | Arrowmaster | factionfu tablet does it too |
| 02:28.12 | Arrowmaster | so does guildfu |
| 02:28.37 | Arrowmaster | friendsfu is fine |
| 02:29.07 | Arrowmaster | its a problem with large tablets i bet |
| 02:29.36 | Arrowmaster | i have top 40 addons showing in prefromancefu |
| 02:32.12 | Xinhuan | doesn't tablet rebuild the whole tooltip on every update interval? |
| 02:32.27 | Arrowmaster | something like that |
| 02:32.47 | Arrowmaster | it rebuilds it when told to |
| 02:33.12 | sylvanaar | i think its a threshold you have to reach - like there is an amount of time you can use processing, and if you exceed it, you get this studder effect |
| 02:33.16 | Arrowmaster | and since im seeing the fps updating extremely fast in the preformancefu tablet i know its updating too fast |
| 02:34.18 | sylvanaar | its related to the 1 second timer calling collectgarbage('collect') |
| 02:34.20 | CIA-45 | 03Fritos * r79758 10DailiesQuestTracker/ (DailiesQuestTracker.lua DailiesQuestTracker.toc): |
| 02:34.21 | CIA-45 | DailiesQuestTracker: |
| 02:34.21 | CIA-45 | - Fixed coordinates for Horde quest giver |
| 02:34.40 | sylvanaar | er |
| 02:34.41 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: then why do i get the exact same shudder on the guildfu tablet |
| 02:34.49 | sylvanaar | collectgarbage('count') |
| 02:35.05 | sylvanaar | because performancefu is running? |
| 02:35.05 | Arrowmaster | trust me, tablet is using too much cpu usage for large tablets |
| 02:35.21 | Arrowmaster | preformancefu isnt being shown though |
| 02:35.26 | sylvanaar | it doesnt matter |
| 02:35.38 | sylvanaar | disable it completely |
| 02:35.45 | Arrowmaster | and i dont get the shutter all the time |
| 02:35.57 | Arrowmaster | part of the problem is tabletlibs cpu usage |
| 02:36.18 | sylvanaar | i think its not that at all |
| 02:37.05 | Arrowmaster | ok disabled it |
| 02:37.13 | Arrowmaster | still get shutter on guildfu |
| 02:37.29 | sylvanaar | idk - i dont |
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| 02:38.32 | sylvanaar | the problem i have with that is that tablet has been around a long time |
| 02:38.54 | sylvanaar | its never been a problem before |
| 02:39.17 | Rabbitbunny | The 'many eyes' theory doesn't hold that bugs will be fixed as soon as they are inserted. |
| 02:39.48 | sylvanaar | hrm |
| 02:40.25 | sylvanaar | we arent talking about fixed, we are talking about seen |
| 02:40.31 | sylvanaar | anyhow - afk |
| 02:41.08 | Arrowmaster | ive been seeing this issue for a while |
| 02:41.43 | Arrowmaster | something could have changed with wow thats making it even more of a cpu hog |
| 02:41.52 | Arrowmaster | and nobody wants to look at tabletlib |
| 02:42.19 | Xinhuan | cos its too big and complicated |
| 02:42.22 | Arrowmaster | and actually, it has been around for a long time and its been known to be a complete cpu hog for a long time |
| 02:42.30 | sylvanaar | thats its job |
| 02:43.09 | Arrowmaster | which is the exact reason fubar was made to not require it because bigwigs and other such addons were going to completely drop fubar support inorder to ditch tabletlib |
| 02:43.26 | sylvanaar | because of the profiling number |
| 02:43.35 | sylvanaar | not because of anything else |
| 02:44.02 | sylvanaar | its just a number - it doesnt mean anything by itself. go profile the default UI then come back |
| 02:44.15 | Arrowmaster | have you played wow on an older computer? |
| 02:44.24 | Rabbitbunny | is. |
| 02:44.30 | Arrowmaster | its getting slower and slower because of changes blizzard is making |
| 02:44.54 | Arrowmaster | making that high profiling number more and more important |
| 02:45.16 | Arrowmaster | and more and more noticeable |
| 02:46.08 | sylvanaar | their profiler isnt even accurate, and the number has no context, its a blunt intstrument |
| 02:46.24 | Rabbitbunny | Arrowmaster: Thanks for mentioning PerformanceFu. |
| 02:46.25 | sylvanaar | it cant become more important |
| 02:46.28 | erikh | that's going to happen, though. |
| 02:46.36 | Rabbitbunny | is now running 60MB lighter |
| 02:47.01 | sylvanaar | it i hit 30MB that high - what do you ppl run |
| 02:47.16 | Arrowmaster | 50mb |
| 02:47.44 | Arrowmaster | lots of static info though |
| 02:48.31 | Dark_Elf | shoot my performancefu says 113mb lol |
| 02:48.53 | Rabbitbunny | 107mb now |
| 02:50.48 | Dark_Elf | mumbles to self, wish addons wouldnt default anchor to center around character, makes it hard to attack :( |
| 02:53.53 | sylvanaar | the problem is more complex than just tablet - but no i have never run wow on a slow/old pc |
| 02:55.07 | Arrowmaster | i should look at guildfu and see how often its trying to refresh tablet |
| 02:56.02 | Rabbitbunny | How often would be too often? |
| 02:56.49 | Dark_Elf | once a minute lol |
| 02:56.57 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:57.50 | Xinhuan | i run at about 60 mb, if i disable lootlink and atlasloot, then it goes down to about 30 mb |
| 02:58.11 | Xinhuan | if i disable gathermate, then 29 mb ;p |
| 02:58.19 | Xinhuan | and mobhealth, then 28 mb |
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| 02:59.00 | Xinhuan | a store a crap of nonsense too, like everyone's guild/spec/gear |
| 02:59.09 | Xinhuan | which is another mb |
| 02:59.41 | Rabbitbunny | heh, my addon is only bad for 215kb. |
| 03:02.18 | Dark_Elf | does performancefu keep track of how much mem it uses, just for the heck of it? i have seen most addons listed but havent seen it yet |
| 03:02.41 | Rabbitbunny | i see it with 193kb. |
| 03:02.51 | vithos | 147 KiB here |
| 03:03.08 | Xinhuan | 163 kb |
| 03:03.12 | Dark_Elf | hmm wonder how much of that is from fubar |
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| 03:03.59 | Xinhuan | 0 |
| 03:04.44 | Dark_Elf | would think it would have to have some overhead |
| 03:04.48 | digmouse | so there's any current addon that works on WotLK? feeling uneasy on beta without addons |
| 03:06.13 | Arrowmaster | digmouse: umm yes |
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| 03:09.01 | Dark_Elf | they may work but they will all show out of date since the version will be 3.0 probably |
| 03:09.15 | digmouse | I know Chatter works and Parrot has a wotLK version |
| 03:09.41 | Xinhuan | now if authors have beta accounts, wouldn't it be great? :) |
| 03:11.13 | fewyn[away] | yes it would Xinhuan |
| 03:11.30 | fewyn[away] | and then it would be even greater if we had a few testers for said beta around too |
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| 03:12.30 | Rabbitbunny | ugh... stupid red text. |
| 03:13.04 | Rabbitbunny | PSA: some colorblind people find it very hard to read red text on a black background. Stop doing that. |
| 03:13.31 | fewyn[away] | goes to bed finally |
| 03:13.48 | digmouse | so you mean they cant read DK class name in guild panel? |
| 03:15.00 | Rabbitbunny | I haven't looked at WotLK. |
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| 03:16.38 | digmouse | That's definitely red text in black bg |
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| 03:22.39 | aestil | does the shake n flash module, shake and flash if you get conflaged on etwins? |
| 03:22.41 | aestil | [omg please answer quick] |
| 03:22.49 | vithos | yes |
| 03:22.53 | vithos | conflag and shadow nova both |
| 03:24.16 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 03:24.32 | Xinhuan | but it doesn't if you enabled nameplates at any point of your game session |
| 03:24.53 | vithos | should still always flash, just not shake |
| 03:25.45 | aestil | i'm not a healer, so i just disabled shadow nova |
| 03:25.53 | aestil | it will now only shake/flash if i am conflaged? |
| 03:26.23 | Xinhuan | pretty much |
| 03:30.40 | |Yssaril| | anyone know if there are any quest objectives that are the same for 2 seperate quests? ie you have t2o quests and both say kill unit X? |
| 03:34.40 | vithos | there's different versions of basically the same daily quest |
| 03:35.10 | vithos | there's rep turnin quests that accept different numbers of the item |
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| 03:39.36 | Arrowmaster | woh we finally got an OH glaive! |
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| 03:52.15 | Aiiane | grats to the lucky rogue, Arrowmaster? |
| 03:52.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah has the set now |
| 03:53.17 | ckknight | howdy all |
| 03:54.48 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: where have you been? |
| 03:55.06 | Atriace | heya |
| 03:55.07 | ckknight | philandering |
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| 03:59.42 | aestil | ok, we killed her. |
| 03:59.51 | aestil | or them rather |
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| 04:04.26 | aestil | twins is my least favorite fight so far. |
| 04:05.44 | vithos | it is my most favorite. |
| 04:06.31 | Xinhuan | my least favourite is kalecgos |
| 04:06.59 | vithos | i thought m'uru was going to be my favorite |
| 04:07.19 | vithos | but after nearly 3 months of wiping to him i've changed my mind |
| 04:13.13 | _gramg_ | any way to do a fubar plugin w/o embedding a bunch of crap? |
| 04:26.41 | _gramg_ | take that as a no |
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| 04:37.26 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r79760 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:37.26 | CIA-45 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 04:37.26 | CIA-45 | - Some new stuff for WotLK (safe for 2.4.3 WoW) |
| 04:37.26 | CIA-45 | - Optimizations |
| 04:38.06 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r79761 10Coconuts/Coconuts.lua: |
| 04:38.06 | CIA-45 | Coconuts: |
| 04:38.06 | CIA-45 | - Aquatic form support |
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| 04:49.43 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 04:57.03 | Luthorhuss | Morning! |
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| 05:35.23 | CIA-45 | 03aiiane * r79762 10AiiDLink/AiiDLink.lua: |
| 05:35.23 | CIA-45 | AiiDLink: |
| 05:35.23 | CIA-45 | - Added ability to save references directly from links |
| 05:35.23 | CIA-45 | - Added raw output function for developer use |
| 05:36.56 | CIA-45 | 03aiiane * r79763 10AiiDLink/AiiDLink.toc: AiiDLink: Version change. |
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| 05:54.19 | NeoTron | man this app will work out great |
| 05:54.31 | NeoTron | too drunk to get into tree form and stand witha group on illidan phase 2.. |
| 05:54.34 | NeoTron | like wow |
| 05:54.45 | NeoTron | _gramg_: make a LDB addon instead man! |
| 05:54.51 | NeoTron | embrace the light |
| 05:55.33 | _gramg_ | lol |
| 05:55.57 | _gramg_ | it's at the request of a few specific users . . . will probably do both and have them sep. addons |
| 05:56.25 | _gramg_ | plug-ins per se |
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| 06:02.23 | CIA-45 | 03phanx * r79764 10CreatureComforts/ (Core.lua CreatureComforts.toc): |
| 06:02.23 | CIA-45 | CreatureComforts: |
| 06:02.23 | CIA-45 | - 2.4.3.22 |
| 06:02.23 | CIA-45 | - Fix for AddonLoader users (untested with AddonLoader) |
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| 06:05.17 | NeoTron | LDB is heck of a lot nicer I must say |
| 06:05.19 | Kemayo | _gramg_: The LDB approach is quite nice, insofar as it only needs LibStub and LibDataBroker, which are both tiny. |
| 06:05.44 | Kemayo | Of course, the tininess comes at the cost of including no display capabilities, and FuBar not being a displayer yet. |
| 06:05.55 | Aiiane | ~ldb |
| 06:05.55 | purl | somebody said ldb was a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 06:06.05 | Xinhuan | and at the cost of 1000 bugs and lack of customizability |
| 06:06.28 | Xinhuan | or at least, customization that hasn't yet been implemented much yet |
| 06:06.35 | Kemayo | Hey, I haven't seen any bugs in LDB itself yet. Admittedly I only heard of it last night. :D |
| 06:06.47 | Kemayo | The display addons are a whole different story, naturally. |
| 06:11.25 | _gramg_ | Yea, I've been watching LDB fo quite a while, unfort. it's the fubar not being a display that kills it for many people (though I wonder how hard it would be to write a LDB-Fubar addon . . . ) |
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| 06:11.50 | Kemayo | _gramg_: Not difficult, for I did it earlier today. |
| 06:12.06 | Kemayo | Well, it isn't finished. But it works. :P |
| 06:12.35 | _gramg_ | hehe, then I won't go digging into the api to figure out how. That is assuming you will release it at some point |
| 06:13.08 | Kemayo | It's on wowace already |
| 06:13.25 | gramg | what's the name? |
| 06:13.30 | Arrowmaster | i should probably look at that later |
| 06:13.39 | Arrowmaster | and fix anything that needs fixed |
| 06:15.02 | Aiiane | Broker2FuBar |
| 06:15.03 | Aiiane | I believe |
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| 06:16.09 | Xinhuan | i don't really believe in "hack" solutions |
| 06:16.13 | Xinhuan | like that heh |
| 06:17.13 | Xinhuan | i mean like, yes LDB is minimal, but you end up running both LDB and Fubar, which isn't minimal |
| 06:17.51 | Aiiane | well the choice typically is between that as a temporary solution, or implementing backwards compatability which is worse in the long run |
| 06:17.58 | gramg | Hopefully someday we'll have a LDB display addon that acts like fubar as far as end users are concerned |
| 06:18.07 | gramg | 'till then though . . . |
| 06:18.41 | gramg | gets many people running LDB and fubar users not bugging us to "make a fubar plugin" |
| 06:18.50 | Aiiane | unfortuantely, addon development isn't as easy as firing an FAVORED_LIBRARY_UPDATED event and having all of the developers trigger their callbacks to rewrite their addons :P |
| 06:19.18 | gramg | I'll be watching that Kemayo, looks promising |
| 06:19.36 | gramg | thank you (will keep me from having to write a fubar plugin) |
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| 06:23.27 | Groktar | that was annoying |
| 06:23.41 | Groktar | my webhost reset my ftp/cpanel password |
| 06:24.00 | Groktar | and i was supposed to go to a form on their site to get the new one |
| 06:24.09 | Groktar | and of course the new one didn't work |
| 06:24.20 | Groktar | so i had to send them 5 emails to get them to change it again |
| 06:24.41 | Groktar | oh, and they didn't tell me that they reset it the first time |
| 06:24.56 | Groktar | so i was all freaked out because i thought i'd been hacked |
| 06:24.58 | Groktar | :/ |
| 06:25.11 | Aiiane | hacks Groktar and changes his pw to exactly what it was already. |
| 06:25.17 | Groktar | cries |
| 06:25.21 | Aiiane | it's ingenious! you'll never know |
| 06:25.59 | Groktar | make embarassing forum posts under my name! |
| 06:26.09 | Groktar | already does that to other people |
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| 06:34.23 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: I think you're looking at it the wrong way. "running both LDB and Fubar" is the intended endpoint. LDB is there as an easy way for the addon to provide the data, without having to worry about what's done with it. FuBar is the display solution. |
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| 06:35.18 | Kemayo | (Or StatBlockCore, or Fortress, or Button Bin, or Titan, or etc etc etc.) |
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| 06:35.31 | Xinhuan | fubar only reads from fubarplugin, the addition of ldb+converter to fubarplugin from ldb is a "hack" you know it |
| 06:35.50 | Aiiane | sure |
| 06:36.08 | Aiiane | but the ideal solution to that isn't to not run fubar, it's to modify fubar to read ldb :P |
| 06:36.26 | Aiiane | so yes, it's a hack, but a temporary one |
| 06:36.37 | Kemayo | Yeah, the addon to auto-make FuBarPlugin wrappers around LDB is a hack, but -- what Aiiane said. |
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| 06:37.27 | Xinhuan | by providing a hack, there is little incentive for the author to redo fubar into ldb compat |
| 06:37.50 | Arrowmaster | theres little incentive anyway |
| 06:37.53 | Xinhuan | or for better ldb displays to be written |
| 06:37.54 | Arrowmaster | its ckk |
| 06:38.08 | Kemayo | Sure there is -- saying "just go install X as well" is not a solution anyone likes. |
| 06:38.29 | Arrowmaster | hes busy enough rewriting most his other stuff |
| 06:38.45 | Groktar | wants to help someone with their mods |
| 06:38.56 | Kemayo | FuBar is big and scary to read, and I don't really want to meddle in its internals. (Let alone whether ckk would want someone to.) |
| 06:39.37 | Kemayo | Besides, I suspect that the eventual solution would be to put something almost idential to Broker2FuBar inside FuBar itself. |
| 06:39.38 | Groktar | what is ldb, btw? |
| 06:39.45 | Kemayo | LibDataBroker-1.1 |
| 06:39.50 | Groktar | o |
| 06:39.58 | Groktar | i don't even know what it does |
| 06:40.00 | Kemayo | ~ldb |
| 06:40.00 | purl | [ldb] a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 06:40.50 | Kemayo | It's a way to register that "hey, I have data I want to show to people!" Then viewers (like, say, FuBar) take it and display it. |
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| 06:42.07 | Kemayo | (I think that folding B2FB into FuBar would be the most likely solution, because it's about the most minimal possible approach that could be taken without massively rewriting how FuBar plugins work.) |
| 06:45.15 | Cheads | where is that Broker2Fubar hosted? |
| 06:45.21 | Kemayo | wowace |
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| 06:46.10 | Cheads | not in trunk I assume =) |
| 06:46.24 | Kemayo | Absolutely in trunk. :P http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Broker2FuBar/ |
| 06:47.14 | Cheads | uhm thought I'd be able to see it on files.wowace.com then |
| 06:47.23 | Kemayo | Incidentally, Arrowmaster, if you feel like fixing up anything about it like you mentioned earlier, feel free to go ahead. |
| 06:47.54 | Kemayo | It's there: http://files.wowace.com/Broker2FuBar/Broker2FuBar.zip |
| 06:47.55 | Cheads | hmm it's there.. I'm blind, sorry =) |
| 06:48.52 | Aiiane | btw |
| 06:48.56 | Aiiane | even if you're not interested in WAR |
| 06:49.01 | Aiiane | this video is a fun watch: http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/39583 |
| 06:49.12 | Aiiane | (part of a speech from the creative director) |
| 06:49.19 | Kemayo | The disclaimer, if you feel like trying it, is that no plugin config is there yet. So you can't tell fubar to hide the icons, or anything like that. |
| 06:49.36 | Diao | does anyone know if cauldrons can proc? |
| 06:49.37 | Diao | the alchemy ones |
| 06:49.42 | Diao | i'm guessing no |
| 06:49.45 | Aiiane | no idea, Diao |
| 06:50.24 | Cheads | never seen it proc |
| 06:51.17 | vithos | no |
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| 06:53.38 | Groktar | the new interface options thingy came in 2.4, right? |
| 06:53.53 | Diao | yep it did |
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| 06:58.07 | Ackis | anyone know a macro to take an item off a stack and place it on the AH? I can't get an individual item off for somereason =/ |
| 06:58.53 | Kemayo | I think it's like trading -- you have to split it into a new bag slot, then place that new stack onto the AH. |
| 06:58.59 | Aiiane | correct |
| 06:59.07 | Aiiane | can't split directly into the AH view |
| 06:59.17 | Ackis | ahh ok, that's what I was able to get it to do |
| 06:59.20 | Throngy | i get that wrong every bloody time :/ |
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| 07:11.23 | Ackis | lua> foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"};if (foo["bar"]) then return "Wheee" end |
| 07:11.23 | lua_bot | Ackis: No output |
| 07:11.33 | Ackis | lua> foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"};if (foo["bar"]) then return 1 end |
| 07:11.34 | lua_bot | Ackis: No output |
| 07:11.40 | Ackis | lua> foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"};if (foo["bar"]) then return 1 else return 3 end |
| 07:11.41 | lua_bot | Ackis: 3 |
| 07:13.24 | winkiller | lua> foo = {"bar","weener"};if(foo["bar"] != nil) then return 1 else return 3 end |
| 07:13.24 | lua_bot | winkiller: luabot:1: ')' expected near '!' |
| 07:13.40 | Ackis | I'm doing about 20 things at once, and failing at all of them |
| 07:13.46 | winkiller | hehe |
| 07:14.02 | winkiller | my laptop is running diskcheck for 30minalready |
| 07:14.03 | Groktar | makes his first addon |
| 07:14.07 | winkiller | I'd loveto startto work |
| 07:15.19 | winkiller | ^ that line above.. with == nil it gives 1 |
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| 07:15.35 | winkiller | so I just noticed I have yetto find the != operator |
| 07:15.41 | winkiller | is a lua noob |
| 07:15.44 | Aiiane | ~= ? |
| 07:15.50 | Aiiane | not sure if that's it, just random guess |
| 07:15.55 | winkiller | that regular match for perl :< |
| 07:16.03 | purple1 | hey guys just wondering if anyone who could help with grid bugs is about |
| 07:16.04 | Aiiane | or just "not x == y" |
| 07:16.14 | winkiller | yay, works :) |
| 07:16.17 | Groktar | wow |
| 07:16.23 | Groktar | there's a lot of crap you can put in a .toc file |
| 07:16.40 | winkiller | indeed |
| 07:16.44 | Aiiane | most of it extraneous :P |
| 07:16.48 | Groktar | yup |
| 07:16.56 | winkiller | Aiiane: thanks, now I just need to remember that :P |
| 07:17.21 | winkiller | well, thestuff that shows up on files.wowace.com is X-foo funnily |
| 07:17.38 | winkiller | and that's more important than some of the other stuff umo |
| 07:18.09 | purple1 | anyone know what i can do about a bug in grid where if a hunter has the same name as his pet their healths stay the same, updating to whichever one i target :o? |
| 07:18.13 | Groktar | hmm |
| 07:18.23 | Groktar | wonders why it won't show up in his list of addons |
| 07:18.55 | Aiiane | purple1: ask the author of grid to fix it ;) |
| 07:19.25 | Groktar | i am so pathetic |
| 07:19.26 | Groktar | sigh |
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| 07:22.25 | Ackis | lua> foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"};if (foo["bar"] ~= nil) then return 1 else return 3 end |
| 07:22.25 | lua_bot | Ackis: 3 |
| 07:22.41 | Ackis | so confused shouldn't that return 1? |
| 07:23.03 | durcyn | the key exists. |
| 07:23.21 | Aiiane | lua> foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"}; if (foo[0] == "bar") then return 1 end |
| 07:23.22 | lua_bot | Aiiane: No output |
| 07:23.28 | Elkano | oh, morning Ackis :) |
| 07:23.42 | Ackis | hello elkano |
| 07:24.03 | Ackis | oh God I'm dumb |
| 07:24.04 | Ackis | fuck me |
| 07:24.04 | Aiiane | er |
| 07:24.07 | Elkano | and no, it shouldn't return 1 since the key to "bar" is 1 |
| 07:24.09 | Aiiane | lua> foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"}; if (foo[1] == "bar") then return 1 end |
| 07:24.09 | lua_bot | Aiiane: 1 |
| 07:24.18 | Aiiane | yeah, just had a C moment :P |
| 07:24.25 | Groktar | i honestly don't understand what i'm doing wrong |
| 07:24.38 | Ackis | lua> foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"};if (foo["bar"] ~= "bar") then return 1 else return 3 end |
| 07:24.38 | lua_bot | Ackis: 1 |
| 07:24.39 | Groktar | so i make a folder named Groktard, make a file in that folder named Groktard.toc |
| 07:24.47 | durcyn | Groktar: don't forget to cup the balls. |
| 07:24.59 | winkiller | I'd normally say paste it, but not sure lynx can read most pastebins :P |
| 07:25.01 | Ackis | lua> playername = "bar";foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"};if (foo[playername] = playername) then return 1 else return 3 end |
| 07:25.01 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: ')' expected near '=' |
| 07:25.11 | Ackis | lua> playername = "bar";foo = {"bar", "poop", "weener"};if (foo[playername] == playername) then return 1 else return 3 end |
| 07:25.11 | lua_bot | Ackis: 3 |
| 07:25.16 | Groktar | is wow at all picky about encoding? |
| 07:25.41 | durcyn | wow is actually pretty sloppy about encoding, it'll take ASCII, UTF8, all kinds of fun crap. |
| 07:25.45 | erikh | no more picky than most utf-8 imps I imagine |
| 07:25.57 | winkiller | Ackis:you're mixing up key/value atm |
| 07:25.59 | Groktar | hunh |
| 07:26.05 | erikh | durcyn: iso8859-1 (what most people consider ascii) is the first 128 characters of utf8 |
| 07:26.24 | durcyn | erikh: fair enough. |
| 07:26.28 | erikh | so technically you're just feeding it utf8 :) |
| 07:26.29 | Aiiane | ackis: {a, b, c} syntax defines a integer-indexed table with a, b, and c as values |
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| 07:26.39 | durcyn | erikh: was referring more to file encoding, though, not just character sets |
| 07:26.45 | durcyn | erikh: i.e. UTF-8 BOMs |
| 07:26.52 | erikh | well, boms are optional |
| 07:27.02 | Groktar | well, basically it's not going to bitch iv i'm doing it in notepad, right? |
| 07:27.06 | Ackis | Aiiane: I'm in pain IRL, dealing with guild drama, talking to a possible co-author and trying to do this |
| 07:27.13 | winkiller | Groktar: not atall |
| 07:27.17 | Elkano | lua> playername = "bar";foo = {bar="bar", poop="poop", weener="weener"};if (foo[playername] == playername) then return 1 else return 3 end |
| 07:27.18 | lua_bot | Elkano: 1 |
| 07:27.22 | erikh | and really only matter when you trying to indicate endianness |
| 07:27.27 | durcyn | Groktar: and the contents for your .toc are? |
| 07:27.34 | winkiller | tictoc |
| 07:28.13 | Groktar | o |
| 07:28.15 | Groktar | um |
| 07:28.18 | Groktar | so yeah |
| 07:28.25 | Groktar | i put "Useless Addon" for the title |
| 07:28.32 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 07:28.33 | Groktar | and i was looking under "Groktard" |
| 07:28.35 | Groktar | hides |
| 07:30.32 | Aiiane | well, at least it was true to its name |
| 07:30.52 | Groktar | yup |
| 07:31.22 | winkiller | I'd suggest to shamelessly copy and paste at the start |
| 07:31.40 | winkiller | andthen playround till it breaks:P |
| 07:31.42 | Groktar | well, i don't really want to do anything in particular |
| 07:32.04 | winkiller | took me some hours to figure out slash-commands |
| 07:32.14 | winkiller | (incl. several parameters and handling them) |
| 07:33.01 | Groktar | just interface, title, and a couple files |
| 07:33.03 | Groktar | oops |
| 07:33.10 | Rabbitbunny | You could learn how to makes frames. |
| 07:33.13 | Groktar | mt |
| 07:33.16 | Rabbitbunny | We'd run the world. |
| 07:33.24 | Groktar | ya, i'm looking that up |
| 07:35.46 | Ackis | lua> playername = "bar";foo = {"a", "ba", "c", "bar"} for i in pairs(bar) if (i == playername) then return 1 end end |
| 07:35.46 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: 'do' expected near 'if' |
| 07:35.52 | Ackis | lua> playername = "bar";foo = {"a", "ba", "c", "bar"} for i in pairs(bar) do if (i == playername) then return 1 end end |
| 07:35.52 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 07:36.08 | Ackis | lua> playername = "bar";foo = {"a", "ba", "c", "bar"} for i in pairs(foo) do if (i == playername) then return 1 end end |
| 07:36.08 | lua_bot | Ackis: No output |
| 07:36.12 | Ackis | fucking foo and bar |
| 07:36.13 | Rabbitbunny | for _,i |
| 07:36.24 | Rabbitbunny | no wait. |
| 07:36.25 | Ackis | lua> playername = "bar";foo = {"a", "ba", "c", "bar"} for _,i in pairs(foo) do if (i == playername) then return 1 end end |
| 07:36.25 | lua_bot | Ackis: 1 |
| 07:36.55 | Rabbitbunny | !omfg. it worked. |
| 07:38.06 | Ackis | yah I fail |
| 07:38.46 | Rabbitbunny | ...you can't fail after making ARL. I still haven't figured out how that works. |
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| 07:45.32 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r79765 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 07:45.32 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 07:45.32 | CIA-45 | - Angry Ackis is ANGRY!!! |
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| 07:45.41 | Ackis | turns Green |
| 07:46.01 | Ackis | when Bruce Banner gets mad, he turns into the Hulk, when Ackis gets mad, he turns into Chuck Norris |
| 07:46.15 | Tinyboom | too much drycoding again Ackis?` |
| 07:46.22 | charon | depicts dryackis getting dryangered |
| 07:46.27 | Ackis | haha |
| 07:46.35 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 07:46.51 | Ackis | that wasn't drycoded |
| 07:47.28 | Tinyboom | hmm, can anyone tell me why my wau adds the dependencies, but doesn't download them? tryin a lib cleanout... |
| 07:48.21 | Aiiane | is the option for auto dependencies on? |
| 07:49.01 | Tinyboom | aye |
| 07:49.36 | Aiiane | also, are you currently set to use externals or no externals |
| 07:49.46 | Tinyboom | it adds the libs to the dependency list in output, but does not download, using no-ext |
| 07:54.15 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r79766 10CNF/CNF.toc: |
| 07:54.15 | CIA-45 | CNF: |
| 07:54.15 | CIA-45 | - Update x-credits |
| 07:54.44 | Arrowmaster | theres 2 settings in WAU i think giving a possibility of 4 unique ways of doing it, but really only 2 work ways of doing will giving you working results |
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| 07:55.28 | Arrowmaster | i dont use WAU or have it installed so no i dont know the exact names of the settings and what to put them as |
| 07:56.01 | erikh | Arrowmaster: do you still need that svn dump? |
| 07:56.06 | Arrowmaster | but one is externals and the other is the auto dependency one |
| 07:56.18 | Arrowmaster | erikh: well i dont have it yet |
| 07:56.24 | erikh | ok, i'll make it available |
| 07:56.48 | erikh | upload is not fast on my home box, so this will be a while |
| 07:56.59 | erikh | i'll send you a memoserv memo w/ the url when it's up |
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| 07:58.50 | orionshock | ~jwu |
| 07:58.51 | purl | JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917 |
| 07:59.19 | erikh | woohoo, 100K and bottoming out |
| 07:59.21 | erikh | comcast-- |
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| 07:59.53 | erikh | meanwhile the server can run a torrent client at 10M/sec |
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| 08:01.53 | CIA-45 | 03bethink * r79767 10Analyst/release_notes.txt: |
| 08:01.53 | CIA-45 | Analyst: |
| 08:01.53 | CIA-45 | - Release 1.0.2 |
| 08:02.10 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 08:02.41 | erikh | Arrowmaster: it looks like it's about to take about 90m to get it there |
| 08:02.53 | erikh | no, the number's still going up |
| 08:02.55 | erikh | damnit. |
| 08:03.03 | Rabbitbunny | cncfanatics: felxbars is awesome. I can now farm VC for 45g/hr and watch Futurama. I think they have flexbars in Heaven. |
| 08:03.51 | Rabbitbunny | btw and all... been getting around to mentioning it but you're never online... |
| 08:05.24 | cncfanatics | Rabbitbunny: eh ? |
| 08:05.25 | Aiiane | what is flexbars? o.o |
| 08:05.39 | Rabbitbunny | starts digging for a link |
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| 08:06.19 | cncfanatics | oh and, I'm online every day -.- |
| 08:06.43 | NeoTron | our Muru strategy thread on our forums is 11 pages now |
| 08:06.45 | Rabbitbunny | for a litte while, I last disconnected when I booted this kernel. |
| 08:06.48 | NeoTron | sorry 10 |
| 08:06.59 | NeoTron | still a bit to go to beat the 12 pages of Kael'thas |
| 08:07.22 | winkiller | Teron is our record wirth 4 pages o_O |
| 08:07.53 | NeoTron | mind you our forums are pretyt active |
| 08:08.03 | cncfanatics | is confused |
| 08:08.13 | NeoTron | 18976 posts so far |
| 08:09.25 | Rabbitbunny | http://www.curse.com/dowloads/details/13296 |
| 08:09.34 | winkiller | 6k posts here |
| 08:09.52 | cncfanatics | Rabbitbunny: page not found |
| 08:10.58 | Rabbitbunny | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/13296/ |
| 08:11.22 | Rabbitbunny | you updated it last week, but have never heard of it... |
| 08:12.23 | cncfanatics | oh, I don't check those very often |
| 08:13.07 | Rabbitbunny | Well, It's still awesome. |
| 08:13.11 | cncfanatics | heh :) |
| 08:13.16 | cncfanatics | its been on wowace since forever |
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| 08:17.45 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 08:17.51 | cncfanatics | some char called Aianna sitting next to me |
| 08:18.01 | Aiiane | not me o.o |
| 08:18.11 | Rabbitbunny | it's a trap. |
| 08:18.17 | Aiiane | too many consonants, not enough vowels :P |
| 08:19.55 | cncfanatics | "(10:03:11 AM) Rabbitbunny: cncfanatics: felxbars is awesome. I can now farm VC for 45g/hr and watch Futurama. I think they have flexbars in Heaven." <--- fail |
| 08:20.22 | Rabbitbunny | Seriously. Your clock is wrong. it's 3:20am. |
| 08:20.33 | Aiiane | i think he was more talking about the 45g an hour |
| 08:20.44 | cncfanatics | and the missspellings :p |
| 08:20.50 | cncfanatics | and futurama also |
| 08:21.00 | Rabbitbunny | while watching Futurama? You try to farm and luagh that hard... |
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| 08:21.39 | cncfanatics | Dr House > futurama |
| 08:22.10 | Aiiane | God, The Devil, and Bob > all |
| 08:22.20 | Aiiane | too bad it only aired for one season, and in america not even that :| |
| 08:22.25 | Gibbonz|Work | will the svn still be there when files. goes? |
| 08:22.45 | Aiiane | Gibbonz|Work: read-only for a little bit |
| 08:22.57 | Aiiane | but not open for commits anymore |
| 08:23.03 | Aiiane | new repos will be per-project |
| 08:23.14 | cncfanatics | Gibbonz|Work: kinda |
| 08:23.26 | Gibbonz|Work | thanks :) |
| 08:23.32 | cncfanatics | Aiiane: I hope it won't be on read only for too long |
| 08:23.37 | cncfanatics | or someone will write an updater that abuses svn |
| 08:23.53 | cncfanatics | either way, with open repositories, someone WILL write an updater that abuses it eventualy |
| 08:24.24 | thul | my iphone 3g cometh today |
| 08:24.24 | Aiiane | Rabbitbunny: I'm a warlock |
| 08:24.44 | Aiiane | I could farm while reading a book |
| 08:24.48 | Rabbitbunny | That's cool. I'm a warrior. |
| 08:25.23 | cncfanatics | I'm a resto druid |
| 08:25.26 | cncfanatics | I farm the AH 5 mins / day |
| 08:25.44 | cncfanatics | 100g / 5 mins is cool |
| 08:26.03 | Rabbitbunny | and you're posting in that time? |
| 08:26.08 | Arrowmaster | fuck im a warlock and ive raided MC while playing Halo against a friend who was in the same raid |
| 08:26.12 | Elkano | I'm a pirate... so hand over your gold an we'll be cool... |
| 08:26.20 | Breeze | Does anyone know if it's possible to use an "execute" item type in AceConfig-3.0 that accepts more than one argument? I would like to have a "copy" command that accepts a source and destination; like this: "/rss copy old new". |
| 08:26.24 | Gibbonz|Work | selling anything specific, or just random stuff? |
| 08:26.31 | Arrowmaster | also raided BT while playing other console games |
| 08:26.41 | Rabbitbunny | I've been doing ~75g/hr on the AH, because posting takes so long. |
| 08:27.17 | Aiiane | Breeze: just parse the "one argument" into the multiple ones |
| 08:27.25 | Aiiane | since it gives you everything that comes after the command |
| 08:27.45 | Breeze | Ah of course :D |
| 08:27.55 | Arrowmaster | and includes a function to do the spliting for you |
| 08:27.58 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: how do you get out of the shit that kills you if you don't get out of it ? |
| 08:28.03 | Arrowmaster | well AceConsole-3.0 does |
| 08:28.34 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: theres stuff that kills you in bt if you dont get out of it? |
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| 08:29.00 | Arrowmaster | healer abuse |
| 08:29.08 | Aiiane | :| |
| 08:29.20 | Arrowmaster | jk |
| 08:29.23 | Arrowmaster | im a warlock |
| 08:29.26 | Arrowmaster | i dont get heals |
| 08:29.45 | Diao | lol |
| 08:29.51 | Diao | so... |
| 08:29.55 | cncfanatics | well, I actualy do throw a lifebloom on our locks :p |
| 08:29.57 | Diao | today on archi, best attempt 23% |
| 08:30.05 | Diao | everything going perfectly |
| 08:30.13 | Diao | then 2 locks die |
| 08:30.16 | Diao | i ask what happened |
| 08:30.22 | Aiiane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhPxwn3lctU <-- GTD&B > Dr House :P |
| 08:30.22 | Diao | they lifetapped to 5k hp |
| 08:30.26 | Diao | and got airbursted |
| 08:30.28 | Diao | -_- |
| 08:30.39 | Diao | i was like WTF were you lifetapping for |
| 08:30.43 | CIA-45 | 03Sanjuro * r79768 10StatBlocks_TankStats/StatBlocks_TankStats.lua: |
| 08:30.43 | CIA-45 | StatBlocks_TankStats |
| 08:30.43 | CIA-45 | - Fixed formula for avoidance |
| 08:30.49 | Arrowmaster | to get mana? |
| 08:31.15 | Arrowmaster | and taking more than 3k damage from an airburst is fail |
| 08:31.29 | Diao | why should they even lifetap |
| 08:31.33 | Diao | just stand around and regen mana like everyone else |
| 08:31.38 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:31.39 | Diao | (we haven't killed archi yet) |
| 08:31.44 | Diao | so survival is priority |
| 08:31.46 | Diao | and they're lifetapping... |
| 08:32.06 | Arrowmaster | im an orc |
| 08:32.19 | Arrowmaster | i pissoff healers by using bloodfury when im low on health |
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| 08:37.02 | cncfanatics | Diao: if they don't lifetap they'll do zero dps |
| 08:37.07 | cncfanatics | but lifetapping to 5k life is stupid |
| 08:37.12 | Diao | and i care because? |
| 08:37.18 | Diao | they can regen by sitting around |
| 08:37.22 | Aiiane | um |
| 08:37.30 | Aiiane | do you realize what a warlock's "sitting around" regen is? |
| 08:37.35 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6530 |
| 08:37.36 | cncfanatics | zero |
| 08:37.41 | cncfanatics | Diao: warlocks don't regen |
| 08:37.44 | Xinhuan | authors have the ability to moderate comments (and delete posts) so the guy deleted all the negative posts lol |
| 08:37.58 | Diao | well |
| 08:38.01 | Diao | if you die |
| 08:38.03 | Diao | that's 0 dps |
| 08:38.06 | Diao | and you're killing other people |
| 08:38.10 | Diao | so that's worse than 0 dps :) |
| 08:38.27 | Aiiane | again |
| 08:38.29 | Diao | besides, it's not like we have a problem with dps |
| 08:38.31 | Aiiane | lifetapping to 5k is stupid |
| 08:38.34 | Diao | we were 4 min left on enrage |
| 08:38.36 | Aiiane | but not lifetapping at all is silly too |
| 08:38.37 | Diao | when we wiped at 23% |
| 08:38.44 | cncfanatics | lifetapping once is fine, lifetapping to 5k hp on archi is stupid |
| 08:38.46 | Diao | so we can afford to have the 3 locks sit around and do nothing |
| 08:39.55 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: you reported it right? |
| 08:39.56 | cncfanatics | Diao: thats silly thinking |
| 08:40.04 | cncfanatics | Diao: might as well take something other hten locks in that case |
| 08:40.08 | Diao | no it isn't |
| 08:40.09 | cncfanatics | lifetapping once is fine, as I said :p |
| 08:40.16 | Diao | not when i've told everyone repeatedly |
| 08:40.19 | Diao | their job is to stay alive |
| 08:40.21 | Diao | for our first kill |
| 08:40.29 | Diao | once we get the survival down we can work on the dps |
| 08:40.31 | cncfanatics | yea, so lifetapping once is fine :p they won't die from that |
| 08:40.45 | Diao | but then our warlocks are dumb in general |
| 08:40.50 | cncfanatics | get new ones :p |
| 08:40.51 | Aiiane | then dont take dumb people |
| 08:40.53 | Diao | they're the ones that finish their cast before moving |
| 08:40.55 | Aiiane | but that's a problem with being dumb |
| 08:40.57 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: still cant contact an admin over there? |
| 08:40.58 | Aiiane | not with being warlocks |
| 08:41.03 | Aiiane | and not with lifetapping in general |
| 08:41.12 | Diao | like |
| 08:41.12 | Diao | our mages barely do any damage on archi |
| 08:41.12 | Diao | they focus completely on decurse |
| 08:41.23 | Diao | adn only toss in damage occasionally |
| 08:41.24 | Diao | they'll cast cancel to decurse people |
| 08:41.49 | Diao | even our feral druid was running around in caster decursing people instead of dpsing |
| 08:41.52 | orionshock | nevcairiel: wrt to BT4, thank you for the addon but the snap to other bars thing has got to come back :D |
| 08:41.55 | Diao | and we were doing fine on enrage timer :\ |
| 08:42.01 | orionshock | i know WIP :D |
| 08:42.34 | Aiiane | again diao... that has nothing to do with being a warlock or lifetapping |
| 08:42.42 | NeoTron | interesting |
| 08:42.42 | Aiiane | it has to do with them being stupid |
| 08:42.45 | Diao | normally yes |
| 08:42.45 | Diao | but |
| 08:42.51 | NeoTron | tey changed the lock tree so conflag now is part of the rotation |
| 08:42.53 | NeoTron | pretty hot |
| 08:42.56 | Diao | we're just playing survival atm |
| 08:43.04 | Diao | so not lifetapping would be better |
| 08:43.06 | NeoTron | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warlock/talents2.html?tal=03520200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005023215220051051335230351 |
| 08:43.13 | Aiiane | no, lifetapping /intelligently/ would be better |
| 08:43.26 | Aiiane | not lifetapping at all is just a sidegrade |
| 08:43.39 | Aiiane | trading one relative bad thing for another |
| 08:43.44 | Diao | not on archi it's not |
| 08:43.48 | Diao | lol |
| 08:43.53 | Diao | dying is worse than doing no dps |
| 08:43.56 | Diao | by far |
| 08:44.39 | cncfanatics | Diao: the problem is not lifetapping, its them being retards :p |
| 08:45.02 | Aiiane | not lifetapping = still bringing idiots to your raid, Diao |
| 08:45.06 | Aiiane | hence why I say it's a sidegrade |
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| 08:45.22 | Diao | well |
| 08:45.29 | Diao | of course i wouldn't expect them to not lifetap normally |
| 08:45.43 | NeoTron | I'd be damned if they don't want us to use immo/incin*N/conflag/SBx3 (since backdraft isn't very useful on reapplying immolate) |
| 08:46.00 | Breeze | How do I accept input to an "execute" input type in AceConfig-3.0? I've been using the "input" type so far, but "execute" seems better for this copy thing. Or should I use the "input" type here? |
| 08:46.41 | Diao | jsut like normally i wouldn't tell priests not to SW:D |
| 08:46.46 | Diao | but on archi they were told not to |
| 08:46.48 | Diao | and they didn't |
| 08:47.36 | Aiiane | again though |
| 08:47.50 | Aiiane | you'd be better off telling your warlocks to LT once and then drain to full before they LT again |
| 08:47.59 | Aiiane | than something like "don't lifetap" |
| 08:48.10 | Groktar | looks for something to /wrists with |
| 08:48.23 | Aiiane | but better yet |
| 08:48.28 | Aiiane | would be to get warlocks that aren't idiots |
| 08:48.30 | Diao | i don't think they stand in range of drain generally |
| 08:48.35 | NeoTron | I hope they make destro a bit cheaper |
| 08:48.40 | Diao | although i guess they could |
| 08:49.01 | Aiiane | or have them wait until they already have a HoT on them due to other damage |
| 08:49.08 | NeoTron | I can see a raid spec that puts 68 points in there (granted some utility from shadow nova but still) |
| 08:49.15 | Aiiane | but either way, it comes down to not having stupid locks |
| 08:49.46 | Diao | i actually would've subbed out the locks for another class if we had more available |
| 08:49.51 | Diao | we tried stacking the raid |
| 08:49.56 | Diao | as many druids/mages/shaman as possible |
| 08:50.07 | Diao | while keeping at least 2 pallies for blessings lol |
| 08:50.15 | cncfanatics | shldnt need heavy stacking for archi |
| 08:50.21 | cncfanatics | just players that aren't idiots and he'll die |
| 08:50.26 | Diao | 10 healers too |
| 08:50.40 | Diao | well |
| 08:50.43 | Diao | we were doing it with 1 shaman |
| 08:50.49 | Diao | and it was extremely difficult |
| 08:50.52 | winkiller | Archi harder than Azgalor? :P |
| 08:51.01 | Diao | i'd say so by far |
| 08:51.04 | Diao | azgalor is a joke |
| 08:51.08 | Diao | we 1shotted azgalor our first try |
| 08:51.54 | Groktar | we had problems keeping tanks up on azgalor |
| 08:51.59 | Aiiane | Breeze: each option command's callback is handed an "info" parameter as its first argument |
| 08:52.06 | Diao | our tanks only die on doom |
| 08:52.11 | Diao | and that's the doomguard tank |
| 08:52.13 | Aiiane | info.input should have the full text that the command was called with |
| 08:52.15 | Diao | so we just have 2 |
| 08:52.54 | Breeze | I see. Do you think it's better to use the "execute" or "input" type for this? |
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| 08:53.20 | Nargiddley | where are you getting info.input from ? |
| 08:53.46 | winkiller | Azgalor: melee got raped by rain of fire and.. had various problems on the 3 or so tries we had |
| 08:53.54 | Aiiane | Nargiddley: "info" is a table passed as the first argument to your callback handler for the command |
| 08:54.01 | Diao | lol |
| 08:54.03 | Nargiddley | Breeze, does the option take any parameters, or is it just do something ? |
| 08:54.05 | Diao | we put melee on doomguard duty |
| 08:54.09 | Diao | makes it easy |
| 08:54.16 | Diao | at 30% they come over to azgalor and burn him down |
| 08:54.18 | Nargiddley | Aiiane, I wrote alot of it. input is not in the spec |
| 08:54.25 | Aiiane | hm |
| 08:54.40 | Diao | healer group directly behind me (tank) so they never get RoF'd |
| 08:54.46 | Diao | caster group on the side of azgalor |
| 08:54.50 | Aiiane | local info = { -- Don't try to recycle this, it gets handed off to callbacks and whatnot |
| 08:54.50 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.50 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.50 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.50 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.51 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.53 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.55 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.57 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:54.59 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.00 | Nargiddley | ConfigCmd may put it there, even so its documented that using extra things is a bad thing |
| 08:55.01 | Aiiane | arg, forgot it was that long, oh wel |
| 08:55.01 | Groktar | omg |
| 08:55.03 | Aiiane | *well |
| 08:55.03 | Breeze | It's used as: /rss copy sourcething newthing |
| 08:55.03 | Groktar | i make a box |
| 08:55.08 | Diao | melee dps azgalor until first RoF or first doom, whichever comes first -> they go to kill doomguards |
| 08:55.14 | Nargiddley | "It may also contain more members, but these are outside the spec and may change at any time -- do not use information in undocumented infotable members. " |
| 08:55.15 | Groktar | and i can make text happen inside my box |
| 08:55.20 | Groktar | feels proud of himself |
| 08:55.24 | charon | Groktar: same here, but we switched to a feral (yours truly) and it's been going well since that |
| 08:55.37 | Aiiane | Nargiddley: Which is why I'd probably recommend using type="input" anyways |
| 08:55.39 | Groktar | ya, we went to a feral for a while |
| 08:55.46 | Nargiddley | its used internally by ConfigCmd and using it will cause it to not work in ConfigDialog |
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| 08:55.53 | Aiiane | but I was just answering the question Breeze asked |
| 08:55.55 | Groktar | eventually we went back to the warrior |
| 08:55.58 | Groktar | after several kills |
| 08:56.07 | Groktar | just because the warrior has more oh shit! stuff |
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| 08:56.25 | Aiiane | but |
| 08:56.30 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:56.33 | Diao | warrior tanks ftw |
| 08:56.38 | Aiiane | in this case Nargiddley... it'd probably be better for it to not work in dialog form o.0 |
| 08:56.54 | Aiiane | since 2-argument things are iffy for base representation |
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| 08:57.19 | Nargiddley | then that should be coded, not crash when it doesnt get an out of spec piece of information that its using |
| 08:57.31 | Aiiane | true. although you can check for nil |
| 08:57.43 | Nargiddley | you *can*, but you shouldn't |
| 08:57.53 | Aiiane | but yeah, type="input", dialogHidden=true |
| 08:57.58 | Aiiane | and then a set handler |
| 08:58.14 | Aiiane | or something along those lines |
| 08:59.10 | Breeze | Aiiane, Nargiddley, thanks :) I'll use the that one |
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| 09:02.21 | Aiiane | also Nargiddley |
| 09:02.33 | Aiiane | either the documentation on type="execute" is incomplete, or outdated |
| 09:02.47 | charon | Groktar, Diao: i've yet to see the warrior that is good enough to compensate the ~20-25% hit dmg difference on a noncrushing boss... but maybe you can convince me otherwise ;) |
| 09:03.31 | Diao | 20-25%? o_O |
| 09:03.54 | Groktar | charon: it's not necessarily the overall damage |
| 09:04.02 | winkiller | the thing I hate most about DKs that I should really level one to try tanking.. |
| 09:04.08 | Daemona | wow.... copying my live addon folder to wotlk and logging in is ... fun |
| 09:04.10 | winkiller | actually prot paladin would also interest me |
| 09:04.21 | Aiiane | Daemona: why would you ever do a silly thing like that |
| 09:04.23 | Groktar | it's the fact that a warrior can do more things to save himself |
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| 09:04.32 | Daemona | human curiosity ;) |
| 09:05.06 | winkiller | lol |
| 09:05.18 | Groktar | tries to make an ok button on his frame |
| 09:05.37 | charon | lua> (11960+20000)/(11960+35000) |
| 09:05.38 | lua_bot | charon: 0.68057921635434 |
| 09:05.50 | charon | 25% is actually a pretty conservative estimate that allows for inspiration etc |
| 09:06.12 | Diao | o_o |
| 09:06.19 | Diao | are you calculating relative extra damage? |
| 09:06.23 | charon | of course |
| 09:06.27 | charon | feral armor goes a LONG way if the boss doesn't crush |
| 09:06.30 | Diao | erm |
| 09:06.37 | Diao | a druid only takes 19% less damage "relative" to my warrior |
| 09:06.39 | Diao | unbuffed |
| 09:06.44 | Diao | assuming a druid is at armor cap |
| 09:06.48 | Diao | wait no |
| 09:06.52 | Diao | then i get 10% defensive stance bonsu |
| 09:06.53 | Diao | bonus* |
| 09:06.55 | charon | oh yeah i forgot those 10% |
| 09:07.11 | charon | lua> (11960+20000)/(11960+35000)/0.9 |
| 09:07.11 | lua_bot | charon: 0.7561991292826 |
| 09:07.16 | charon | that's why i remembered 25% ;) |
| 09:07.24 | Daemona | my favourite error is this one: http://ace.pastey.net/93060 |
| 09:07.31 | Diao | a druid |
| 09:07.34 | Diao | vs me |
| 09:07.34 | Diao | unbuffed |
| 09:07.38 | Diao | takes 12% less damage relative |
| 09:07.51 | Diao | add in imp devo aura, inspiration, ironshield pot |
| 09:08.17 | Diao | i will take the same damage as a druid per hit |
| 09:08.23 | Diao | plus more "oh shit" buttons |
| 09:09.51 | charon | i know that it averages out, but that doesn't matter the least for spike damage |
| 09:10.09 | charon | in those "oh shit" situations you don't have inspiration, and using ironshield means you just blew one of your oh shit buttons |
| 09:10.34 | Diao | one |
| 09:10.43 | Diao | but then i have trinkets, shield wall, last stand, healthstones/nightmare seed |
| 09:10.47 | Diao | while a druid gets... |
| 09:10.50 | Diao | trinkets? |
| 09:11.01 | Neya | pots and stones too. |
| 09:11.14 | Diao | it's still risky even with the macro that shifts you back in |
| 09:11.25 | charon | fact remains: the per hit damage, which pretty much determines possible spike damage, is far lower for a feral if the boss doesn't crush |
| 09:11.46 | Neya | it is about as risky as not using them if you are going to die on the next hit anyway. |
| 09:11.53 | charon | ^ |
| 09:12.01 | charon | (plus, it gives you more HP than to a warrior) |
| 09:12.26 | Diao | oh |
| 09:12.29 | Diao | and did i mention i'm orc |
| 09:12.32 | Diao | so i resist stuns =) |
| 09:12.36 | Diao | less incoming damage than any druid |
| 09:12.48 | winkiller | I've tanked all of T4/ZA with war and druid |
| 09:12.53 | winkiller | so keen on T5 |
| 09:12.57 | winkiller | but both only alts :( |
| 09:13.16 | charon | Diao: that's _STILL_ not spike, it's average. |
| 09:13.25 | Diao | it is spike though |
| 09:13.27 | Diao | theoretically |
| 09:13.34 | Diao | because if you get stunned your avoidance drops to zero and that's higher spike damage |
| 09:13.35 | Aiiane | it's spike some of the time |
| 09:13.38 | Aiiane | and not other times |
| 09:13.52 | charon | no it's average. spike is when you _do_ get stunned and get the full damage in your face. which _will_ happen to an orc, just less frequently |
| 09:14.17 | Groktar | has tanked everything up to brutallus |
| 09:14.44 | charon | (not to mention that i resist 5+15% stuns and an additional 15% of AOE including stun) |
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| 09:15.38 | Groktar | well, i'm at least having more fun now |
| 09:15.41 | charon | really, there are three important things that must be distinguished: average (expected) damage input, maximum possible damage in the space of a few seconds, and probability that this maximum damage happens |
| 09:15.43 | Groktar | since i can kinda make frames |
| 09:15.53 | Groktar | and make the text i want appear within |
| 09:16.39 | charon | AFAIK, warriors score high on the average and probability, while ferals get all points in maximum possible, especially if the boss does not crush |
| 09:17.01 | charon | not sure about paladins, though i'd be interested to know |
| 09:17.39 | Aiiane | paladins score in probability |
| 09:17.45 | Aiiane | on crushing bosses |
| 09:18.03 | Aiiane | due to 8charge/10sec instead of 2/5 |
| 09:18.22 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:18.24 | charon | i see |
| 09:18.27 | Aiiane | they're about equal to warriors on average |
| 09:19.05 | Aiiane | give or take a little |
| 09:19.25 | Aiiane | it also depends on the type of damage source |
| 09:19.31 | Aiiane | due to ardent defender |
| 09:19.44 | Aiiane | constant-stream-of-damage will be dealt with better by a pally |
| 09:19.57 | Aiiane | hard individual hits not as much |
| 09:20.56 | Aiiane | although |
| 09:21.03 | Aiiane | i really wish blizzard would do what they did for warriors |
| 09:21.11 | Aiiane | and give holy shield a 1sec longer duration than its cooldown |
| 09:21.26 | Aiiane | as it is, lag/whatever can get a pally crushed if the boss hits right as the duration expires on holy shield |
| 09:21.37 | Diao | er |
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| 09:21.43 | Diao | shield block has same cd as duration |
| 09:21.49 | Diao | it's just off gcd :p |
| 09:22.02 | Aiiane | imp shield block |
| 09:22.04 | Groktar | pretty sure shield block is 6 second duration on 5 second cd |
| 09:22.06 | Aiiane | increases duration by 1 sec |
| 09:22.19 | charon | Aiiane: they can't do that, it would make the uninformed warriors envious :p |
| 09:22.23 | Diao | well |
| 09:22.27 | Diao | they are doing that in wrath aren't they? |
| 09:22.31 | Aiiane | and what prot war doesnt take imp shieldblock |
| 09:22.33 | Diao | lowering the cd to 8 sec or something |
| 09:22.50 | Groktar | they want to completely rework shield block |
| 09:22.54 | charon | we had one actually.... he mysteriously died to maulgar's spike damage _every time_ |
| 09:23.02 | Groktar | so it's something you only use when you know spike damage is coming |
| 09:23.05 | Diao | yeah Groktar |
| 09:23.07 | Diao | but paladins |
| 09:23.11 | Aiiane | it appears so Diao, hopefully the change sticks :P |
| 09:23.13 | Diao | are getting 8 sec cd on holy shield with 10sec duration |
| 09:23.17 | Diao | and like 12 charges |
| 09:23.17 | Groktar | ahh |
| 09:23.19 | Diao | or something retarded |
| 09:23.27 | Aiiane | nah |
| 09:23.30 | Aiiane | still 8 charges |
| 09:23.34 | theoddone33 | death knights death knights |
| 09:23.36 | Aiiane | but now on 8sec cooldown |
| 09:23.43 | Groktar | paladins do look pretty much amazing in wotlk right now |
| 09:23.44 | theoddone33 | the class to end all other tanking classes, except for warriors druids and paladins |
| 09:23.53 | Aiiane | lol theoddone33 |
| 09:24.04 | Diao | prot pallies get everything warriors have except stancedance for fearbreak and spellreflect |
| 09:24.06 | Diao | in expansion |
| 09:24.09 | Daemona | ret paladins will have to see MAJOR balancing |
| 09:24.10 | Diao | and they get a better version of it all :( |
| 09:24.16 | Diao | hi2u 5 min shieldwall |
| 09:24.17 | Daemona | currently they rofloneshotting anything |
| 09:24.33 | Aiiane | that's a bug, Daemona, afaik |
| 09:24.37 | theoddone33 | that sounds fun |
| 09:24.42 | Diao | i want a 5 min cd shieldwall |
| 09:24.48 | Diao | that also shieldwalls my party/raid |
| 09:24.48 | Groktar | yeah |
| 09:24.51 | Aiiane | something to do with the crit bonus talent being screwed up |
| 09:24.55 | Daemona | can you say 16k in 1 second? ;) |
| 09:25.13 | Groktar | they did say that warriors are getting major attention soon |
| 09:25.19 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:25.33 | theoddone33 | dual wielding axes AND a shield |
| 09:25.38 | Aiiane | Diao: that 5min shieldwall does sort of temorarily make the mob drop threat on you :P unless it's tauntable |
| 09:25.43 | Diao | no it doesn't aiiane |
| 09:25.53 | Diao | did you check the divine protection rework? |
| 09:26.09 | Diao | reduces all damage taken by 50%, no longer linked to divine shield cooldown, and no longer drops threat |
| 09:26.14 | Diao | 5 minute cooldown |
| 09:26.14 | Aiiane | ah |
| 09:26.24 | Diao | and also works with divine guardian talent |
| 09:26.33 | Aiiane | well... sort of linked |
| 09:26.38 | Aiiane | Once protected, the target cannot be made invulnerable by Divine Shield, Divine Protection or Hand of Protection again for 3 min. |
| 09:26.42 | Aiiane | same forbearance |
| 09:26.47 | Diao | so it absorbs 30% dmg from all nearby 30 yard raid members |
| 09:26.50 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:27.09 | Groktar | i would like to see something like a 12 minute cooldown on retalation/recklessness/shield wall |
| 09:27.10 | Diao | but still |
| 09:27.13 | Diao | 5 minute shield wall |
| 09:27.14 | Aiiane | and actually |
| 09:27.22 | Diao | and 30% reduced damage from all raid :( |
| 09:27.22 | Groktar | with imp shield wall reducing it by 3/6 minutes |
| 09:27.25 | Aiiane | they increased the forbearance timer |
| 09:27.31 | Diao | to 3 minutes yes |
| 09:27.42 | Diao | but still! |
| 09:27.56 | Groktar | honestly, 6 minutes gives you once per fight |
| 09:27.59 | Diao | forbearance is only activated on those few skills |
| 09:28.00 | Groktar | that's really not op at all |
| 09:28.03 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:28.08 | Diao | i don't understand |
| 09:28.15 | Aiiane | otoh, i do like them taking forbearance off AW :P |
| 09:28.17 | Diao | why warriors are still stuck to a 30 minute linked cooldown |
| 09:28.22 | Diao | on 3 abilities |
| 09:28.24 | Groktar | ya |
| 09:28.27 | Diao | while all other classes are getting amazing abilities on shorter timers |
| 09:28.30 | Aiiane | because you get shieldblock :P |
| 09:28.30 | Diao | that are far better |
| 09:28.36 | Aiiane | hides |
| 09:28.39 | Diao | it's stupid |
| 09:28.50 | Groktar | well, reck is pretty amazing |
| 09:28.53 | Diao | yeah |
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| 09:28.59 | Aiiane | but but, instant uncrushability! :P |
| 09:29.06 | Diao | lol |
| 09:29.06 | Aiiane | (oh wait) |
| 09:29.16 | Groktar | i remember doing princess huhu |
| 09:29.20 | Daemona | (crushings were removed aight?) |
| 09:29.27 | Aiiane | (hence the "oh wait") |
| 09:29.33 | winkiller | When I killed Princess in Elwynn, I never was crushed |
| 09:29.39 | Groktar | we had to keep switching tanks for the 30% enrage |
| 09:29.45 | Groktar | because they would all blow their shield wall |
| 09:29.49 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:29.50 | Groktar | "ok, who has it up?" |
| 09:29.53 | Aiiane | lol |
| 09:29.56 | Diao | in my guild it was |
| 09:30.03 | Diao | "ok guys let's wait 10 min for the next shield wall cd" |
| 09:30.09 | Groktar | pretty much |
| 09:30.09 | Aiiane | oh, charon... pally tanks also score in the frontloading threat dept |
| 09:30.16 | Diao | but yeah.. |
| 09:30.21 | Aiiane | AW + blue rage bar that starts full |
| 09:30.23 | Diao | i'm hoping for some massive changes |
| 09:30.28 | Diao | in the next beta push |
| 09:30.33 | Diao | otherwise warrior is looking worse and worse |
| 09:30.40 | Diao | and i'll have to roll another class :\ |
| 09:30.50 | Groktar | yeah |
| 09:30.50 | charon | Aiiane: i suppose so... but threat is a sad chapter in my raid anyway |
| 09:30.59 | Aiiane | heh |
| 09:31.01 | Aiiane | howso |
| 09:31.16 | charon | the warriors are _always_ threat limiting, while the ferals and paladins rarely are |
| 09:31.23 | Groktar | it's just like, blizzard make dks a tanking class so because there was such a massive shortage of tanks |
| 09:31.25 | charon | so the warriors are very careful to avoid that topic. |
| 09:31.32 | Diao | really? |
| 09:31.40 | Groktar | but the real problem was just nerfing the shit out of offspecs ability to tank in wotlk |
| 09:31.50 | Diao | i find that i generate way more threat than any of our ferals or paladins when it's a threat required fight |
| 09:31.56 | Diao | ie, a fight where i don't have to wear max avoidance |
| 09:32.01 | Groktar | yup |
| 09:32.03 | charon | Diao: i suspect our warriors suck and your ferals suck |
| 09:32.07 | Diao | i doubt it |
| 09:32.11 | Diao | i average 1500tps on VR |
| 09:32.13 | Diao | when we do him |
| 09:32.15 | Diao | lol |
| 09:32.20 | Diao | i wear DST+shard as trinkets |
| 09:32.28 | Diao | full expertise anti-parry cap |
| 09:32.29 | Diao | full hit cap |
| 09:32.33 | Groktar | ya |
| 09:32.40 | Diao | windfury + feral in my group |
| 09:32.43 | Groktar | like, if a pally wore my pure avoidance gear |
| 09:32.48 | Diao | running ~30% crit in tanking gear |
| 09:32.49 | Groktar | without any buffs helping him out |
| 09:32.53 | Groktar | he's be doing 500tps |
| 09:33.06 | Diao | nobody can catch me for threat |
| 09:33.07 | Diao | lol |
| 09:33.12 | Diao | even our dps have trouble keeping up |
| 09:33.16 | Groktar | hehe |
| 09:33.21 | charon | Diao: i do about 1800-2000 in dps gear, which was good enough to tank kaz'rogal one time the warrior died. so? |
| 09:33.33 | Diao | still wearing tank gear :p |
| 09:33.41 | Groktar | charon: i do 1800-2000 in dps gear. so? |
| 09:34.01 | Diao | if i had 40%+ avoidance in dps gear |
| 09:34.06 | Diao | i'm sure i could pull more 2k |
| 09:34.10 | charon | Groktar: shut up and let me counter mr. pr0warrior please :p |
| 09:34.14 | Diao | lol |
| 09:34.25 | Diao | druid dps gear is so stacked with agility that you can semi-tank with it on in bear form |
| 09:34.33 | Diao | our druids do it too if i ever happen to die |
| 09:34.44 | Diao | warriors no way |
| 09:34.45 | charon | see, now you're even conceding that our dps gear is closer to tanking than yours. |
| 09:34.56 | Diao | it is, because of how good agility is for druids :\ |
| 09:35.00 | Aiiane | You want to argue tps |
| 09:35.01 | Diao | ours is pure crit/str |
| 09:35.05 | Aiiane | have 3 mobs attacking you |
| 09:35.08 | Diao | no avoidance whatsoever |
| 09:35.10 | Aiiane | then I'll argue my pally's tps with you |
| 09:35.13 | Diao | lol |
| 09:35.15 | charon | hehe |
| 09:35.20 | charon | or 10? :) |
| 09:35.21 | Diao | tps on multi-mobs nothing can ever come close to pally |
| 09:35.23 | Aiiane | or 20 |
| 09:35.24 | Diao | obviously |
| 09:35.29 | Diao | which is why our pallies rule trash |
| 09:35.30 | Groktar | anyway, the problem isn't so much that a warrior's base abilities don't scale too well in threat, which is true |
| 09:35.32 | charon | or 4 abomin...ooops he died. |
| 09:35.36 | Aiiane | nah |
| 09:35.40 | Aiiane | free action pot > aboms |
| 09:35.47 | Pkekyo| | g'morning ladies |
| 09:35.49 | Diao | our prot pally is usually like 10th place on damage done at the end of hyjal |
| 09:35.50 | charon | good tip, will recommend to our pally |
| 09:35.53 | Aiiane | hi Pkekyo| ^^ |
| 09:35.54 | Diao | just because of trash :\ |
| 09:35.57 | Groktar | the missrate when you combine parry/dodge/miss is so high |
| 09:36.08 | Groktar | that there's a TON of room to increase your threat generation |
| 09:36.08 | Pkekyo| | hai Aii |
| 09:36.11 | Pkekyo| | Aiiane: |
| 09:36.13 | Aiiane | charon: I swear I nearly jumped for joy when I discovered they worked |
| 09:36.27 | Aiiane | it's night and day on hyjal waves |
| 09:36.29 | charon | can you get out of the stun with them, or do you take them in advance? |
| 09:36.29 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:36.34 | Aiiane | in advance |
| 09:36.35 | Diao | only living ation breaks stun |
| 09:36.37 | charon | ah |
| 09:36.39 | Diao | free action has to be in advance |
| 09:36.40 | charon | ok, noted |
| 09:36.41 | Aiiane | but you know which waves have aboms |
| 09:36.44 | Diao | and LAP is from zg ;p |
| 09:36.47 | Aiiane | and it's 30secs of invuln on a 2min cd |
| 09:36.47 | Groktar | in my experience, our pallies/warriors/druids have very similar threat gen |
| 09:36.55 | charon | Aiiane: actually i don't, but bigwigs does ;) |
| 09:36.58 | Aiiane | so basically, first 30 secs of every wave, give or take a little |
| 09:37.24 | Diao | do your dps take out aboms that fast? |
| 09:37.32 | Groktar | anyway |
| 09:37.37 | Groktar | goes back to trying to make a button |
| 09:37.43 | Aiiane | either that or you can have another tank grab them |
| 09:37.57 | Diao | yeah usually what i do is |
| 09:37.58 | Aiiane | but it keeps you from getting pegged right off the bat while your other tank finds them |
| 09:38.13 | Diao | i and the ferals pick them off |
| 09:38.18 | Diao | we actually have our priests up front |
| 09:38.20 | Diao | i bloodrage |
| 09:38.22 | Diao | to get initial agro |
| 09:38.25 | Diao | then priests shackle as they come to me |
| 09:38.31 | Diao | and then our prot pally has consecrate down behind me |
| 09:38.34 | Diao | and i drag them into the cons |
| 09:38.41 | charon | hurricane pull <3 |
| 09:38.44 | Aiiane | with free actions we don't bother shackling |
| 09:38.50 | Aiiane | we just let the other tanks pick them off the pally |
| 09:38.54 | Diao | lol |
| 09:38.59 | Diao | what do you do on like |
| 09:39.01 | Diao | the necro+abom waves |
| 09:39.23 | Aiiane | warrior spellreflects, pally shields to grab the noncasters |
| 09:39.27 | Groktar | so, if i want to make any kind of a button/textbox/whatever i have to do it in <Frames></Frames>? |
| 09:39.29 | charon | hurricane, travel form, run back a bit to avoid the shadowbolts, go bear, works every time |
| 09:39.34 | Diao | lol |
| 09:39.40 | Diao | yeah what i do is |
| 09:39.45 | Diao | i save rage from prior waves |
| 09:39.51 | Diao | spellreflect, intervene someone |
| 09:39.54 | Diao | and that pulls all the necros |
| 09:40.02 | Diao | and then the aboms get shackled |
| 09:40.05 | Aiiane | or alternatively |
| 09:40.08 | Diao | we don't have enough tanks to take 6 aboms |
| 09:40.17 | Aiiane | pally just sits there and pops a bubble as the bolts are coming in |
| 09:40.18 | Diao | 2 per tank + ghouls/whatever is iffy |
| 09:40.21 | Aiiane | then cancels after first wave hits |
| 09:40.39 | Groktar | hokay |
| 09:40.40 | Diao | lol |
| 09:40.43 | Diao | i time it so that |
| 09:40.45 | Aiiane | we have a couple of ferals |
| 09:40.49 | Aiiane | so they help with aboms |
| 09:40.51 | Diao | the spellreflect is up by the time the second shadowbolt waves come in |
| 09:40.52 | Groktar | has an actual interface/addon question |
| 09:40.53 | Aiiane | and dps on other waves |
| 09:40.59 | Diao | so that i can survive 2 in case our sheeps/fears are slow |
| 09:41.04 | Aiiane | sorry Groktar, wrong channel |
| 09:41.07 | Diao | lol |
| 09:41.15 | Groktar | doh |
| 09:41.21 | Aiiane | no really, shoot :) |
| 09:41.52 | Groktar | hehe |
| 09:41.57 | Groktar | i think i answered it myself |
| 09:42.00 | Aiiane | k |
| 09:43.33 | Aiiane | [02:33] Skuld: :] |
| 09:43.33 | Aiiane | [02:34] Skuld: http://www.hannahmontanacalls.com/registration.aspx |
| 09:43.33 | Aiiane | [02:34] Skuld: in the words of one wise redditor, "do not USE THIS free and anonymous site in a manner that was not intended" |
| 09:43.34 | Aiiane | ... |
| 09:43.39 | Groktar | actually i'm seeing stuff like "<Button name="Simple_CloseButton" inherits="UIPanelCloseButton"> " |
| 09:43.50 | Groktar | what is UIPanelCloseButton? |
| 09:44.38 | Aiiane | it's a predefined button in the WoW UI |
| 09:44.41 | Nargiddley | a virtual frame, in this case a template defined by blizzard |
| 09:45.23 | Aiiane | (that automatically closes its parent) |
| 09:45.29 | Groktar | o |
| 09:45.34 | Nargiddley | http://wowcompares.com/2438606/FrameXML/UIPanelTemplates.xml you can see the definition there |
| 09:46.03 | Groktar | ah cool |
| 09:46.53 | Groktar | lotsa buttons in there |
| 09:49.45 | NivFreak | meh |
| 09:51.24 | Aiiane | Nargiddley: Do you know offhand whether the "input" argument for AceConfig's "execute" type is or is not going to be implemented? |
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| 09:53.30 | Nargiddley | very much doubt it, seems to serve no purpose. |
| 09:54.19 | Aiiane | so anything requiring processing of input text, even if it's not a stored input, will be done via type="input" then? |
| 09:54.30 | Nargiddley | does nothing that an input type wouldn't achieve except having the function called func instead of set |
| 09:55.44 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 09:55.47 | Nargiddley | I'm not even sure where that bit of documentation came from |
| 09:55.55 | Nargiddley | I should try to find it heh |
| 09:55.58 | Aiiane | I almost wonder if it'd be worth it to change it up a little |
| 09:56.12 | Aiiane | and make it so that input could be an integer value specifying a # of arguments |
| 09:56.15 | Nargiddley | any change to the spec has to be with very good reason now |
| 09:56.31 | Aiiane | so that GUIs could implement multiple inputboxes |
| 09:56.38 | Aiiane | for the same field |
| 09:56.41 | Nargiddley | ew no |
| 09:57.11 | Aiiane | how would you handle the "copy" concept then? i.e. copy from one name to another, 2 arguments |
| 09:58.02 | Nargiddley | either a single input, or a select + input since the from is a known value |
| 09:58.19 | Aiiane | known, but maybe not feasible for a select |
| 09:58.26 | Aiiane | i.e. 50+ options isnt really feasible |
| 09:58.39 | Aiiane | and single input doesn't translate well to GUI |
| 09:58.57 | Aiiane | not in a way that's logical to end users, at least |
| 10:00.32 | Aiiane | I mean, AceConfig is geared towards configuration, so its understandable it wouldn't really handle things well that are aimed more towards functionality than configs |
| 10:01.04 | Nargiddley | copy from/to isn't that far out of what its meant to do |
| 10:01.36 | Aiiane | but also even |
| 10:01.41 | Aiiane | how would you do select+input |
| 10:01.49 | Aiiane | in a way that was logical for both CL and GUI |
| 10:02.08 | Nargiddley | but there are lots of these things that want little tweaks of how to display, line has to be drawn somewhere |
| 10:02.19 | Aiiane | basically what I'm saying is |
| 10:02.32 | Aiiane | allow execute to be the "process slash subcommand manually" |
| 10:02.46 | Aiiane | but still allow GUI representation of arguments |
| 10:03.34 | Aiiane | and yes, I know it's a bit late on the spec now |
| 10:03.48 | Aiiane | but it's just sort of a disconnect between GUI and slash I see atm |
| 10:03.58 | Aiiane | everything else translates fairly well |
| 10:04.30 | Arrowmaster | thats what the gui* and cmd* prefixes are for |
| 10:04.35 | Nargiddley | I don't see multiple arguments like that working in a gui well at all |
| 10:04.36 | Aiiane | sure Arrowmaster |
| 10:04.40 | Arrowmaster | if they work |
| 10:04.41 | Aiiane | but that means duplicate code |
| 10:04.44 | Aiiane | to do the same thing |
| 10:04.44 | Nargiddley | each case will be different |
| 10:04.49 | Arrowmaster | i heard some didnt work for cmd at one point |
| 10:05.19 | Xinhuan | http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/9924/gnomeslolhb2.jpg |
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| 10:05.27 | Xinhuan | new felmyst strategy - let the gnomes tank! |
| 10:05.32 | Aiiane | why should I have 3 fields, 2 for the GUI and another 1 for the slash, when all I want is to be able to get 2 strings and then process them together |
| 10:05.39 | Xinhuan | (check combat log) |
| 10:05.54 | Aiiane | lol Xinhuan |
| 10:07.33 | Vilkku | hmm, anyone know what software you could use to stream a fullscreen game online? |
| 10:07.37 | Vilkku | game being WoW |
| 10:07.45 | Nargiddley | Aiiane, because there is no good generic way to handle 2 strings for the GUI. 2 input boxes is just one case and wouldn't be used much imo |
| 10:07.46 | Aiiane | stream as in webcast? |
| 10:08.29 | Aiiane | Nargiddley: what other cases can you think of |
| 10:09.01 | Aiiane | actually |
| 10:09.13 | Vilkku | Aiiane, yeah webcast |
| 10:09.18 | Nargiddley | input, select, range, color in any combination |
| 10:09.21 | Aiiane | i think the ideal solution might be to have another type of "group" |
| 10:09.32 | Aiiane | that allows processing its contained elements as a batch |
| 10:09.37 | Aiiane | i.e. combination of group and execute |
| 10:10.08 | Nargiddley | there is nothing that stops you doing that now |
| 10:10.18 | Aiiane | Nargiddley: CL doesnt treat it well |
| 10:10.29 | Nargiddley | how would CL ever treat that well ? |
| 10:10.30 | Aiiane | I was going to continue on to saying |
| 10:10.55 | Nargiddley | considering that .plugins could add things to the group or some could be disabled or hidden ? |
| 10:10.56 | Aiiane | that it could treat its arguments as specifying the values for each of the subelements |
| 10:11.04 | Aiiane | shrugs |
| 10:11.22 | Aiiane | obviously you can't handle EVERY case |
| 10:11.38 | Aiiane | but I still think it might be improvable |
| 10:12.07 | Nargiddley | how do you decide what case is able to be handled ? |
| 10:13.01 | Aiiane | don't support anything beyond a certain subset of functionality on execute-groups? |
| 10:13.19 | Aiiane | it's 3am and I'm brainstorming |
| 10:16.04 | Aiiane | in GUI, when you press the button corresponding to the executegroup, it gets passed the values of all subelements as arguments to the handler |
| 10:16.11 | Aiiane | in CL, it just gets passed the commandline |
| 10:16.25 | Aiiane | would handle it gracefully enough for most purposes |
| 10:17.04 | Aiiane | *the commandline passed through AceConsole's argument splitter |
| 10:17.29 | Nargiddley | The GUI just isn't setup for that kind of thing, it sounds good in theory but would take alot of rewriting to get working |
| 10:18.40 | Aiiane | then I would suggest implementing the input flag to execute |
| 10:18.57 | Aiiane | and just have it not display an input field in GUI |
| 10:19.13 | Aiiane | and pass nil if the button is pressed in GUI |
| 10:19.17 | Nargiddley | how is that any different from the input type ? |
| 10:19.26 | Aiiane | because the input type displays an input field in GUI |
| 10:19.51 | Aiiane | not a button |
| 10:20.02 | Nargiddley | on the command line how is it different ? |
| 10:20.14 | Aiiane | that's the point, it's not different on CL, but it is in GUI |
| 10:20.24 | Nargiddley | and name any option that would work both with and without input |
| 10:20.53 | Aiiane | Nargiddley: the point would be to be able to write your own handler for the CL |
| 10:21.11 | Aiiane | so you grab the data from other input fields (if pressed from GUI), or grab the data from the arguments on CL |
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| 10:22.17 | Aiiane | it's not a matter of working with and without input |
| 10:22.24 | Aiiane | it's being able to get input from 2 different sources |
| 10:22.30 | Aiiane | either separate fields (GUI) or arguments (CL) |
| 10:22.39 | Nargiddley | you can do that now |
| 10:23.01 | Aiiane | not without having different group items for gui and cl |
| 10:23.02 | Nargiddley | its just a seperate option, which is correct since its handled completely differently |
| 10:23.21 | Aiiane | not really |
| 10:24.12 | Nargiddley | one handles a text input, the other an arbitrary number of other controls returns |
| 10:24.41 | Groktar | so say i have a text box named foobox |
| 10:24.48 | Groktar | what is the text within it called? |
| 10:25.02 | Aiiane | no, both handle a request to process information. where that information comes from is up to the processor |
| 10:25.19 | Nargiddley | where it comes from is different, so different options |
| 10:25.37 | Aiiane | but to the end user, it's doing the same thing. |
| 10:25.56 | Nargiddley | To the end user, seperate option do the same thing |
| 10:26.04 | Aiiane | and as far as the programmer is concerned |
| 10:26.07 | Aiiane | most of the processing is the same |
| 10:26.13 | Aiiane | just maybe 1-2 lines to get the info |
| 10:26.48 | Aiiane | if args == nil then args = {field1.value, field2.value} end |
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| 10:28.11 | Aiiane | Groktar: text box as in editbox? |
| 10:28.14 | Groktar | ya |
| 10:28.22 | Aiiane | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_EditBox_GetText |
| 10:28.33 | Aiiane | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_EditBox_SetText |
| 10:28.40 | Groktar | sorry for being a complete retard |
| 10:28.50 | Groktar | but this is the first night i've actually messed with any of this |
| 10:29.33 | Aiiane | Anywho, I need to go to sleep lest I be half-dead for work tomorrow... don't worry too much Nargiddley, as I mentioned before I'm mostly just brainstorming |
| 10:29.42 | Aiiane | I'm sure AceConfig3 will be fine regardless. :P |
| 10:29.46 | Nargiddley | I'm not worrying at all :P |
| 10:29.52 | Aiiane | Good :) |
| 10:30.05 | Nargiddley | Used to talking about requests, most alot further out there than this |
| 10:30.15 | Aiiane | nods |
| 10:31.25 | Aiiane | also sticks Nargiddley on her list of people to bug when attempting to figure something out for writing documentation :P |
| 10:33.13 | Aiiane | for now though |
| 10:33.24 | Aiiane | im just going to nuke the reference to an input param on http://wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 10:34.10 | Nargiddley | sounds good, I think that description at the top was just missed when the param was removed ages ago |
| 10:36.27 | Aiiane | hmm |
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| 10:37.22 | Aiiane | one last thing before I head off to bed... another small possibility would be to add an option for type=group in CL-only that calls a function if the user attempts to reference a non-existent subcommand |
| 10:37.24 | Wobin | ~imagehosting |
| 10:37.25 | purl | i guess imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire |
| 10:38.00 | Aiiane | i.e. replaces the current "blahblah is not a valid argument" and passes it off to the addon to handle |
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| 10:38.58 | Wobin | I need a name for a Boomkin, suggestions welcome |
| 10:41.27 | Aiiane | would that have any big issues Nargiddley? it seems like it wouldn't be too hard (aside from yes, it would require modifying the spec) to check for an optional unknown-handler specified, and wherever currently displays the "invalid argument" text to just call the handler instead if its found |
| 10:42.10 | Nargiddley | not sure, I haven't had too much to do with the cmd side of things |
| 10:42.24 | Nargiddley | Pretty sure its been suggested before, can't remember the outcome |
| 10:43.25 | Aiiane | and GUI/dialog could safely ignore it |
| 10:43.32 | Aiiane | since there's no way to specify invalid subcommands with them |
| 10:43.39 | Aiiane | due to the rigid input |
| 10:44.06 | Aiiane | O |
| 10:44.31 | Aiiane | *I'll see if I can catch nevcairiel or [Ammo] sometime when I'm less sleepy to ask them about it then |
| 10:45.14 | Nargiddley | Aiiane, http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-137 |
| 10:46.46 | Aiiane | Eh, wish I had been around for that discussion then :P |
| 10:47.53 | Aiiane | your comment is correct that it should be ignored by dialog/gui/dropdown |
| 10:47.58 | Groktar | so far i've figured out how to make frames, buttons, editboxes, and messageframes |
| 10:48.05 | Groktar | how to hide and show them |
| 10:48.17 | Aiiane | and Mikk's suggested "solution" of writing your own slash handler isn't ideal |
| 10:48.32 | Aiiane | "check if there are options" gets complicated when you have config groups with subgroups |
| 10:48.43 | Groktar | i was about to say i figured out how to make a slash handler |
| 10:48.44 | Groktar | hehe |
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| 10:49.56 | Groktar | hmm |
| 10:50.32 | Aiiane | also Nargiddley, that JIRA ticket doesn't exactly aim at the same thing |
| 10:50.38 | Aiiane | that one is for if there are no arguments |
| 10:50.49 | Aiiane | I'm saying if there /are/ arguments, but they dont match any subitems |
| 10:51.02 | Aiiane | and the current item is set to type=group |
| 10:51.16 | Hjalte | ~seen tekkub |
| 10:51.17 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 48m 45s ago, saying: 'in town'. |
| 10:53.24 | Aiiane | anyway. sleeptime |
| 10:53.27 | Aiiane | night~ |
| 10:54.34 | Groktar | hmm |
| 10:54.41 | Groktar | looks up lua string functions |
| 10:56.55 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if TourGuide is aware that some quests got easier (elites --> non-elites) ? |
| 10:57.13 | cladhaire | Hjalte: i dont think so, no |
| 10:57.34 | cladhaire | but if you let tekkub know specifically, and where they should fit in the guide file i'm sure he'd be happy to add them in :P |
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| 12:34.21 | CIA-45 | - Added french translation by Laumac |
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| 14:02.24 | Stanzilla | Ackis: addon vendetta? why are you blocking players/guilds from using your addon? :P |
| 14:02.45 | Elkano | "You've already gotten the ability to drink pots in bear form..." omg, somehow I missed thatone |
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| 14:04.28 | Stanzilla | Ackis: miss read that..nvm^^ |
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| 14:05.32 | Ackis | :P |
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| 14:06.42 | Ackis | Stanzilla: when someone says to my gf that "it's better for the guild that she doesn't raid with the guild" and calls me a loot whore I get upset :P and TIRaid is just for a single guild anyways |
| 14:07.00 | Stanzilla | I see! |
| 14:07.26 | Vexir | For some reason in Prat or in WoW, i don't know which one is causing it but I just got prat so I assume it is - it keeps sticking to a channel. i dont really know why, but i was talking in trade chat and tried to switch over to guild chat, but every time i tried i had to type /g again else i'd talk in trade! |
| 14:09.02 | Vexir | anyone have any idea as to why? |
| 14:10.04 | Vexir | yeah, it just locks onto whichever channel i talk in first as i log in |
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| 14:10.59 | reaktor | hi |
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| 14:11.03 | Vexir | nevermind, problem went away after a relog |
| 14:11.05 | Vexir | odd |
| 14:11.52 | ccKep | prat just sticks to the channel you've _last_ talked in |
| 14:11.53 | reaktor | i just updated my click2cast addon, and now its gone. In the addonlist near the characters i can see it, but ingame its gone |
| 14:12.17 | ccKep | reaktor: you mean its not working? or its options are gone? |
| 14:12.29 | reaktor | i cant even see it ingame |
| 14:12.31 | ccKep | esc -> interface options -> addons -> click2cast |
| 14:12.39 | reaktor | its not working and no configuration |
| 14:12.58 | reaktor | ccKep: its there, and active |
| 14:13.07 | ccKep | configured too? |
| 14:13.08 | reaktor | in the interface options |
| 14:13.12 | reaktor | yes |
| 14:13.31 | reaktor | i was using it, for months now |
| 14:13.56 | ccKep | yeah, but they switched options at some point (even though that was some time ago now) |
| 14:14.05 | ccKep | don't know how old your former version was |
| 14:14.47 | reaktor | ah ok |
| 14:14.50 | reaktor | now i can see it |
| 14:14.56 | reaktor | damn all my configs are gone |
| 14:15.04 | reaktor | puh ha, much work - but thanks |
| 14:15.06 | ccKep | thats why I asked if its configured ;) |
| 14:16.26 | Ackis | fuck me, i haven't been to sleep yet |
| 14:16.36 | ccKep | m or f? |
| 14:16.46 | Ackis | both |
| 14:16.58 | ccKep | scary, guess I'll pass then |
| 14:17.33 | Ackis | awww pity |
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| 14:20.08 | ccKep | anyone know of an addon that provides combatlog filters? |
| 14:20.16 | ccKep | as in "What happened to xyzmage?" |
| 14:20.25 | ccKep | without me having to search for a combat log line to right click xyzmage |
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| 14:50.17 | Vilkku | could someone help me a bit with ColorPickerFrame? |
| 14:50.44 | Zhinjio | ccKep: I saw one mentioned a few days ago... can't remember what it was for the life of me, though. |
| 14:50.48 | Zhinjio | Looked pretty awesome. |
| 14:51.02 | ccKep | aye |
| 14:51.23 | Zhinjio | it let you track an individual (like a tank) and see just what happened to them |
| 14:51.36 | Vilkku | more specifically, I can't get it to revert to the old colors when clicking cancel, it still changes the color to the new one |
| 14:51.59 | ccKep | yeah, the default blizzard combatlog already provides those filters (GUID-filtering and such) |
| 14:52.08 | ccKep | but you have to right-click on a players name in the combatlog |
| 14:52.15 | ccKep | and thats hard after a wipe or something :D |
| 14:52.48 | ccKep | Vilkku: I'm not an expert, but how are you using the colorpickerframe? |
| 14:53.06 | Vilkku | ccKep, I'll put my code on a pastey somewhere sec |
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| 14:53.47 | Vilkku | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93065 |
| 14:54.19 | Vilkku | you want to look under the player_entering world functions and below that |
| 14:54.29 | Vexir | why can i not click on items in my chat? im using prat |
| 14:57.27 | Kirkburn|afk | How odd, Baggins only runs if I have Aloft running |
| 14:57.49 | ccKep | Vilkku: set ColorPickerFrame.previousValues in your slash handler |
| 14:58.24 | ccKep | ColorPickerFrame.previousValues = { pingy_nameR, pingy_nameG, pingy_nameB, pingy_nameA } |
| 14:58.34 | ccKep | because thats what is passed to the cancelFunc |
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| 15:00.26 | FtH|Daemona | ccKep try the death tab of recount or grab expiration / grimreaper ... |
| 15:00.32 | FtH|Daemona | there are many addons that offer that functionality |
| 15:01.11 | ccKep | death tab of recount just ain't working for me, and honestly - the blizzard combatlog already offers the base functionality I'm looking for.. its just the way the filter are selected I dont like |
| 15:01.20 | ccKep | guess I'll just write a small fubar plugin or something |
| 15:01.28 | ccKep | that applies GUID filters to the combatlog |
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| 15:02.45 | FtH|Daemona | try expiration then |
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| 15:05.28 | ccKep | thanks, I'll give it a try |
| 15:10.07 | ccKep | Vilkku: pingy worky? |
| 15:10.54 | Aii | i personally use grimreaper |
| 15:11.51 | Aii | allows viewing GUID-filtered log from the unitframe rightclick menu, and also gives an easy way to dump a nicely formatted last-X-lines of log to chat |
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| 15:21.51 | harl | is there an auction house in area 52? |
| 15:22.00 | Aii | nope, only a bank |
| 15:22.59 | harl | so there's no neutral auction house in the outlands? |
| 15:23.27 | ScoTTie | correct |
| 15:23.47 | ScoTTie | makes people go back to the old world |
| 15:25.13 | Aii | there's no AH in outland, period |
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| 15:27.23 | Kirkburn|afk | And don't call it "the outlands", it's just "Outland". :) |
| 15:28.29 | Vexir | Why can I not click on item links while using Prat? |
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| 15:29.42 | Vilkku | ccKep, a bit late response, but it doesn't change anything |
| 15:29.52 | durcyn | Vexir: did you change that chat frame's text alignment? |
| 15:30.30 | Vexir | text alignment? |
| 15:30.35 | Vexir | as in justification? yes |
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| 15:30.59 | Vexir | i have it on Right |
| 15:31.05 | ccKep | Vilkku: already added some debug AddMessage's ? |
| 15:31.50 | Vilkku | no |
| 15:32.09 | Saroz_ | aww Ackis |
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| 15:34.30 | Vilkku | ccKep: I fixed it >< |
| 15:34.42 | ccKep | what was the problem? |
| 15:34.43 | Vilkku | had the funcion named PINGY_ instead of Pingy_ |
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| 15:39.02 | Vilkku | ccKep: happen to know how I would have different pickers for different set of variables? atm I can't figure out how to have ColorPickerFrame.func as one thing at one point and another thing later? |
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| 15:41.38 | ccKep | first off, I'd switch from 4 variables to 1 table var for storing colors |
| 15:42.09 | ccKep | eg. pingy_nameR, pingy_nameG, pingy_nameB, pingy_nameA just become pingy_color |
| 15:42.29 | ccKep | pingy_color = { r = ..., g = ..., b = ..., a = ... } |
| 15:42.37 | ccKep | and access them using pingy_color.r and such |
| 15:43.03 | Vexir | durcyn: is there a way to fix my problem? |
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| 15:43.37 | ccKep | and then, when opening the colorpickerframe in your slash handler I'd set SomeTempVar = pingy_color |
| 15:43.43 | ccKep | and modify that in your colorpicker function |
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| 15:50.54 | Vilkku | ccKep, how would I store them? just like "pingy_color = { r = ..., g = ..., b = ..., a = ... }" with all the dots? |
| 15:51.09 | Aii | the dots are fillintheblanks :P |
| 15:51.25 | ccKep | without |
| 15:51.29 | ccKep | eg. white would be: |
| 15:51.38 | Aii | pingy_color = {r=1.0, g=1.0, b=1.0, a=1.0} |
| 15:51.40 | Vilkku | yes, but |
| 15:51.46 | ccKep | yay |
| 15:51.48 | Aii | pingy_color.r = 0.5 |
| 15:51.56 | ccKep | and then you'd access then with pingy_color.r for example |
| 15:51.57 | Vilkku | pingy_color = ColorPickerFrame:GetColorRGB(); |
| 15:51.59 | Vilkku | simple as that? |
| 15:52.01 | Aii | if pingy_color.r > 0.3 then |
| 15:52.14 | ccKep | lemme take a look what GetColorRGB returns |
| 15:52.46 | Aii | it returns r,g,b as 3 values |
| 15:52.52 | Aii | so Vilkku |
| 15:53.11 | Aii | pingy_color.r, pingy_color.g, pingy_color.b = ColorPickerFrame:GetColorRGB(); |
| 15:53.20 | Vilkku | ah |
| 15:55.25 | Vilkku | so instead of using ColorPickerFrame:SetColorRGB(pingy_nameR, pingy_nameG, pingy_nameB) I can now use ColorPickerFrame:SetColorRGB(pingy_name)? |
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| 15:56.03 | Aii | if it's expecting 3 arguments, then no |
| 15:56.20 | ccKep | SetColorRGB(unpack(pingy_color)) should work |
| 15:56.31 | Aii | but yeah, unpack is handy :) |
| 15:56.43 | Aii | brb |
| 15:57.11 | ccKep | or.. wait a sec |
| 15:57.28 | ccKep | unpack might not work for tables with non-numeric indices |
| 15:57.46 | ccKep | so you'd have to SetColorRGB(pingy_color.r, pingy_color.g, pingy_color.b) |
| 15:59.01 | Vilkku | ColorPickerFrame.previousValues = { pingy_nameR, pingy_nameG, pingy_nameB, pingy_nameA }; would be rewritten as... ColorPickerFrame.previousValues = { pingy_name.r, pingy_name.g, pingy_name.b, pingy_name.a }; or is there some nifty way to do it? |
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| 16:00.16 | ccKep | well, you might want to pastey your actual code once again |
| 16:00.20 | ccKep | with the changes you made |
| 16:00.26 | Vilkku | sure |
| 16:01.37 | fewyn | my ui uses too much memory |
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| 16:03.01 | ccKep | f pingy_slasharg == ("color" or "colour") then << and I don't think such a thing works in lua ^.^ |
| 16:03.16 | Breeze | Are there any known issues with RosterLib-2.1 or AceEvent-3.0? I've registered for "RosterLib_UnitChanged" and "RosterLib_RosterUpdated" but the methods never get executed. |
| 16:03.46 | Vilkku | ccKep, you're right, only picks up color |
| 16:03.49 | Odlaw | no because "color" would be true, so it'd just stop there |
| 16:03.51 | ccKep | yeah |
| 16:03.59 | ccKep | because "color" or "colour" evaluates to "color" |
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| 16:04.23 | Vilkku | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93067-l2xx |
| 16:04.36 | Odlaw | maybe more of a regexp? |
| 16:04.50 | Odlaw | like colo[u]?r type of thing |
| 16:05.32 | ccKep | pingy_slasharg:match("colou?r") should do the trick |
| 16:05.48 | Odlaw | ya |
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| 16:06.46 | Vilkku | if (pingy_slasharg == "color") or (pingy_slasharg == "colour") then also works |
| 16:07.41 | Odlaw | if string.match(pingy_slasharg, "colou?r") |
| 16:08.08 | Aii | if pingy_slasharg:match("colou?r") is shorter :P |
| 16:08.19 | Odlaw | i like the old string.match personally :) |
| 16:08.47 | Aii | shrugs, to each their own |
| 16:08.58 | Odlaw | but ya, either way |
| 16:09.15 | Vexir_ | i have a question about a certain font |
| 16:09.18 | Vexir_ | its used all over my UI |
| 16:09.29 | Vexir_ | cowtip uses it for titles and names |
| 16:09.39 | Vexir_ | clearfont uses it for blizzard default font |
| 16:09.43 | Vexir_ | like in the keybindings and such |
| 16:09.50 | Vexir_ | but in the list of fonts |
| 16:09.52 | Vexir_ | there is no such font |
| 16:09.56 | Vexir_ | why is that? |
| 16:10.03 | Vexir_ | i'd really like to use it for everything else |
| 16:10.53 | nekoh | Breeze: RosterLib-2.1 requires Ace2 (AceEvent-2.0) and only works with AceEvent-2.0-events |
| 16:11.46 | Breeze | nekoh, Can I mix an Ace3 addon with Ace2 mixins? |
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| 16:12.52 | Vilkku | function Pingy_ColorCancelClass(prevvals) |
| 16:12.52 | Vilkku | pingy_class.r,pingy_class.b,pingy_class.g = unpack(prevvals) |
| 16:12.52 | Vilkku | end |
| 16:12.54 | nekoh | i dont know |
| 16:12.55 | Vilkku | that bugs =/ |
| 16:13.15 | Vilkku | some times opening the panel with color A, changing to color B and then pressing cancel makes the color C |
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| 16:15.02 | ccKep | so, as I see it: you want to use 2 different colors |
| 16:15.06 | ccKep | one for name, one for class, right? |
| 16:15.44 | Vilkku | yes, and I need to use prevvalsName and prevvalsClass, I suppose? just checked it =P |
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| 16:17.24 | Aii | um... actually no, since they're just function arguments :/ |
| 16:17.31 | ccKep | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93068 |
| 16:17.32 | Aii | shouldnt have to :| |
| 16:17.35 | ccKep | didn't test it, but might work |
| 16:18.11 | Vexir_ | anyone know? |
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| 16:18.19 | Vexir_ | its the font that cowtip uses for labels |
| 16:18.32 | Vexir_ | like when you mouse over... a plant |
| 16:18.36 | Vexir_ | or brazier |
| 16:18.42 | ccKep | you still have to replace your PINGY_COLOUR.r stuff with the according color, eg. Pingy_ColorTable["name"].r |
| 16:18.47 | Vilkku | Aii, changing it works |
| 16:18.55 | Aii | Vexir_: are you sure it's not just the regular font at a different size? |
| 16:23.27 | Aii | hm |
| 16:23.34 | fewyn | i wish carbonite wasn't so nice that i like having it enabled |
| 16:23.40 | fewyn | it uses too much memory |
| 16:23.48 | Aii | it shouldnt matter, but does prevvals need the alpha argument? |
| 16:23.55 | Silviu- | Tourguide > all |
| 16:24.05 | Aii | you set it but never read it |
| 16:24.42 | Vexir_ | Aii: whats the 'regular font' though |
| 16:24.53 | Vexir_ | the default is calibri, and its DEFINETELY not that |
| 16:24.58 | Vexir_ | i tried all of them at a diff size |
| 16:25.07 | Vexir_ | it looks distinctly different from all of them |
| 16:25.13 | Aii | Fritz Quadrata TT, I believe? |
| 16:25.15 | Vexir_ | its like a bold insomniax, is the best way i can describe it |
| 16:25.20 | Vexir_ | yeah its not that |
| 16:25.40 | Aii | screenie it |
| 16:25.46 | Vexir_ | clearfont doesnt have that as an option anyway |
| 16:26.56 | Vexir_ | sec |
| 16:27.51 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r79774 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 16:27.51 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 16:27.51 | CIA-45 | - fixed typo |
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| 16:32.32 | Vexir_ | Aii: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5121/fontol2.jpg |
| 16:33.57 | Aii | looks like Arial to me |
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| 16:38.53 | Vexir_ | that would have to be a pretty bold arial |
| 16:39.02 | Vexir_ | and arial isn't an option... arial narrow is but that looks nothing like it |
| 16:40.53 | Aii | im at work atm... give me a sec though and I'll remote desktop home and see what it's called |
| 16:41.42 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r79775 10CNF/ (CNF.toc CNFDB.lua): |
| 16:41.42 | CIA-45 | CNF: |
| 16:41.42 | CIA-45 | - Fix UTF errors |
| 16:41.55 | Vilkku | ccKep and Aii, thanks for the help and the code fixing, works like a charm now and I'm impressed how you managed to shorten my code |
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| 16:42.43 | Vexir_ | Aii: preciate it |
| 16:46.49 | Aii | Vexir_: that font is showing up as Arial Narrow for me at least o.0 |
| 16:47.51 | Vexir_ | but arial narrow is... NARROW |
| 16:48.45 | Vexir_ | let me get you a better screenie |
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| 16:49.10 | Aii | sec, im uploading one for you :P |
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| 16:50.44 | Aii | http://aiiane.net/images/arialnarrow.png |
| 16:51.22 | Ackis | can someone explain http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT to me? because I don't get why the first one has 8 parameters, the second has 3, the third has up to 8, etc |
| 16:51.59 | Aii | ackis: they're added together |
| 16:52.09 | Aii | the first 8 are always there |
| 16:52.36 | Vexir_ | yeah that is the font |
| 16:52.38 | Ackis | so for a spell cast, it would have 11? and spell cast failed it'd have 12? |
| 16:52.57 | Vexir_ | hm well how do i get arial narrow as a font option in my addons |
| 16:52.57 | Aii | Ackis: yes |
| 16:53.08 | Ackis | now it makes sense |
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| 16:53.57 | charon | btw you should usually go for COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 16:54.16 | Aii | mhm |
| 16:54.31 | Ackis | why? |
| 16:54.36 | Vexir_ | like i dont see arial narrow as an option for clearfont |
| 16:54.40 | Vexir_ | or prat |
| 16:54.41 | Vexir_ | or anything |
| 16:54.44 | Aii | so that you get all events, Ackis |
| 16:54.51 | Aii | instead of user settings mucking with them |
| 16:54.57 | charon | ^ |
| 16:55.02 | Ackis | ahh ok |
| 16:55.04 | charon | they get the same arguments |
| 16:55.05 | Ackis | damn users |
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| 16:56.29 | Vexir_ | well i see arial narrow as an option in prat actually, but not in clearfont.. and clearfont overrides it |
| 16:56.59 | cncfanatics | waits impatiently while vista creates its backup cd's so he can throw it away and install debian |
| 16:57.14 | Vexir_ | ok no that is not arial narrow |
| 16:57.16 | Vexir_ | i just tried it |
| 16:57.41 | charon | cncfanatics: you don't look back when leaving sodom |
| 16:57.48 | Aii | no idea then Vexir_ |
| 16:58.07 | Saroz_ | give beta key :( |
| 16:59.05 | Aii | gives Saroz_ a beta key to Hello Kitty Island Adventure |
| 16:59.12 | cncfanatics | charon: creating those cd's takes aaaaaages : |
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| 16:59.32 | harl | why leave sodom? |
| 17:00.03 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r79776 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist |
| 17:00.12 | harl | sodom seems like a nice place. |
| 17:01.29 | cncfanatics | harl: only for machoists |
| 17:02.44 | cncfanatics | this recovery manager is taking ages to create its dvd's though : |
| 17:04.36 | harl | yeah, well.. it's sad that sodom was destoyed - (o rly..) - yeah, but.. it must've been a much nicer place before that, right? - (rriiight..) |
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| 17:04.59 | Vexir_ | Aii: http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8965/font2kl2.jpg - in that image, the circled green is arial narrow, as said by prat and microsoft word looks like that too. the red circled is the font im looking for. as you can see they are vastly different |
| 17:05.53 | cncfanatics | ~lart harl |
| 17:05.53 | purl | follow's harl with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 17:06.21 | harl | ow.. bad purl.. |
| 17:06.24 | cncfanatics | Saroz_: giev beta key too |
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| 17:07.41 | Ackis | http://ace.pastey.net/93072 (net is gay) that's how to do it then? |
| 17:07.59 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 17:08.10 | cncfanatics | ackis joins, purl says, drycode incoming |
| 17:08.15 | cncfanatics | first thing he does, pastey stuff :p |
| 17:08.36 | harl | there's a "t" missing |
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| 17:08.48 | harl | it's "event" |
| 17:08.48 | cncfanatics | and, don't return |
| 17:09.00 | cncfanatics | just if event == "eventneeded") then dostuff end |
| 17:09.18 | cncfanatics | returning like that looks ugly imo :p |
| 17:09.56 | harl | agrees. |
| 17:10.21 | Ackis | so: http://ace.pastey.net/93073 |
| 17:10.27 | Ackis | I've seen it done both ways |
| 17:10.55 | cncfanatics | http://ace.pastey.net/93074 looks less ugly |
| 17:11.03 | cncfanatics | and it shld be very marginaly more performant too :p |
| 17:12.07 | Ackis | cncfanatics: I don't see what's dif from 93073 and 93074 |
| 17:12.11 | Lyn_ | anyone can tell me how i can change the default reaction colors (für hp bars etc) with my own? :x |
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| 17:12.16 | Vexir_ | Does anyone know what the font is that is circled in red? http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8965/font2kl2.jpg |
| 17:12.18 | Lyn_ | -für +for |
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| 17:12.40 | ag` | Verdana Tahoma? |
| 17:12.41 | cncfanatics | none |
| 17:12.59 | cncfanatics | didn't see you had changed it already |
| 17:13.18 | Lyn_ | cncfanatics, red circle, not the green one |
| 17:13.51 | cncfanatics | Lyn_: I was talking to Ackis :p sorry for the confusion |
| 17:14.18 | Lyn_ | ah, okay x) |
| 17:14.36 | Ackis | lovels cncfanatics |
| 17:14.38 | Ackis | buttsecks? |
| 17:14.52 | Vexir_ | ag`: dont think so |
| 17:15.11 | cncfanatics | Ackis: sure |
| 17:15.26 | Ackis | hawt |
| 17:15.33 | Aii | Vexir_: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ClearFont2_fonts has all of the CF2 default fonts listed with images |
| 17:15.51 | Aii | it doesnt look like a CF2 default font |
| 17:18.35 | Vexir_ | its probably not |
| 17:18.37 | Vexir_ | and yet |
| 17:18.40 | Vexir_ | its ALL OVER my UI |
| 17:18.43 | Vexir_ | i have NO idea how!! |
| 17:18.49 | Vexir_ | is there some directory of fonts thats in WoW |
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| 17:19.08 | erikh | you haven't looked, have you |
| 17:20.38 | Aii | Vexir_: look at http://www.clearfont.co.uk/readme.html#Install |
| 17:20.47 | Aii | specifically, "Step Two (optional)" |
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| 17:22.12 | Vexir_ | AHAH |
| 17:22.14 | Vexir_ | i found it |
| 17:22.18 | Vexir_ | its calibri |
| 17:22.21 | Vexir_ | the default clearfont |
| 17:22.24 | Vexir_ | but its bold |
| 17:22.31 | Vexir_ | i dont know hwo to make clearfont bold |
| 17:22.41 | Aii | on that page I just linked |
| 17:22.43 | Aii | see part b. |
| 17:22.46 | Vexir_ | thanks. |
| 17:22.47 | Aii | "Modifying Clearfont" |
| 17:22.53 | Aii | it talks about substyles |
| 17:23.17 | falconindy | speaking of clearfont, does anyone know how to resolve the issue between clearfont and oRA2? |
| 17:23.28 | Aii | which is, falconindy ? |
| 17:23.41 | falconindy | you're unable to set targets via the blizzard raid window |
| 17:24.32 | falconindy | you'll get tainting errors |
| 17:24.36 | Aii | I just always used the fubar plugin :| |
| 17:24.57 | falconindy | yeah that's how i do it now, but it would be nice if i were able to just right click on people and set em |
| 17:25.21 | falconindy | people with retarded characters in their names make it a little difficult to type it out |
| 17:26.12 | profalbert | whât dø ýôù mæn? |
| 17:26.26 | falconindy | death, good sir |
| 17:26.27 | Primer | cladhaire: I used some Astrolabe code derived from TomTom in my addon, to simply display the distance and angle to a waypoint. This point also doesn't show up on the main map. By "also", I mean that TomTom's point doesn't show up either |
| 17:26.53 | Primer | it shows up in the minimap just fine |
| 17:27.07 | cladhaire | what world map are you using |
| 17:27.11 | cladhaire | i.e. have you disabled all other addons |
| 17:27.21 | Primer | I'm using Cartographer |
| 17:27.27 | cladhaire | disable it |
| 17:27.30 | cladhaire | don't ever test with other addons |
| 17:27.36 | Primer | heh |
| 17:27.45 | cladhaire | since we already established that your cart, for whatever reason, has an issue with astrolabe |
| 17:28.11 | cncfanatics | "Overhealing is now reported in the combat log." yay |
| 17:29.28 | profalbert | yep: it's where the the arg that was previously the crit-arg |
| 17:31.19 | Aii | wait, "previously the crit-arg"? |
| 17:31.31 | profalbert | it's all shifted |
| 17:31.36 | Aii | ah |
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| 17:31.47 | Aii | for some reason I thought you were implying they removed crit heals or something :P |
| 17:31.50 | profalbert | but addons that are not 3.0-aware count it as crit ;) |
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| 17:34.47 | Primer | well, as expected, TomTom waypoint works when it's the only addon |
| 17:35.34 | cladhaire | your cart is the issue |
| 17:35.36 | cladhaire | i promise you |
| 17:35.52 | cladhaire | i have no idea why, cause you're the only one |
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| 17:36.49 | Primer | perhaps the version? |
| 17:36.55 | cladhaire | probably |
| 17:37.37 | Zyndrome | gg |
| 17:37.48 | Primer | Version: 2.0 |
| 17:37.51 | Zyndrome | officer says "be on time, dont AFK" and suddenly he disappears |
| 17:37.54 | Primer | from Cartographer.toc |
| 17:37.55 | Zyndrome | AFK :< |
| 17:39.29 | cladhaire | Primer: that doesn't tell us much at all |
| 17:40.02 | cladhaire | do /dump Cartographer.revision |
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| 17:40.59 | Primer | svn: MKACTIVITY of '/wowace/!svn/act/6ebd7bf2-624c-11dd-ac61-43bd1a9e61c9': 403 Forbidden (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 17:41.17 | cladhaire | i have no idea what you're doing |
| 17:41.35 | Primer | heh, that's just something else |
| 17:41.56 | Primer | I'm just committing my code from home so I can work on it at work |
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| 17:42.27 | Aii | you remember that the commitable archive is dev.wowace.com right? |
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| 17:43.43 | cladhaire | lol cartographer just took 6 minutes to checkout O.o |
| 17:44.24 | KriLL3 | why doesn't the notes I add in cart4 show on the minimap? |
| 17:44.31 | cladhaire | ther'es a cart4? |
| 17:44.34 | Harshmage | has anyone found a suitable app for GIT on Windows systems? |
| 17:44.40 | KriLL3 | *3 |
| 17:44.48 | KriLL3 | was thinking of BT4 |
| 17:44.51 | profalbert | Harshmage there is this git msys thingy |
| 17:44.59 | cladhaire | Primer: Using Cart and TomTom, waypoints work perfectly |
| 17:45.22 | profalbert | Harshmage: but I only use it for "git pull" and "git push" |
| 17:45.23 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: I really hate the tomtom arrow |
| 17:45.33 | KriLL3 | and it's a lot less clean than the cart2 implementation |
| 17:45.34 | cladhaire | ... why? |
| 17:45.39 | cladhaire | how so? |
| 17:45.44 | KriLL3 | it's distorted and ugly |
| 17:45.44 | Aii | http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ |
| 17:45.55 | KriLL3 | the rightclick stuff in the map to add waypoints is odd, etc |
| 17:45.57 | profalbert | exaclty that |
| 17:46.05 | Primer | cladhaire: it's hard for me to replicate here since Cart has so many deps |
| 17:46.15 | cladhaire | okay.. grats? |
| 17:46.16 | cladhaire | its not cart |
| 17:46.26 | fewyn | ~lart Belazor |
| 17:46.26 | purl | pries Belazor's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Belazor |
| 17:46.26 | Harshmage | thankee....I'll try it out |
| 17:46.28 | cladhaire | i'm not sure what you want, but you'[re not providing any constructive feedback |
| 17:46.53 | KriLL3 | and now I got 3~? different systems at the same time that handels map notes, Gathermate Handynotes Cart3 Tomtom |
| 17:47.09 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: well it was a lot more slick and usable in cart2 |
| 17:47.10 | gramg | <ghasp> you want some suggestions not a "I don't like it"?? |
| 17:47.15 | cladhaire | well, its not cart |
| 17:47.17 | KriLL3 | it feels very haphazard and random atm |
| 17:47.18 | cladhaire | provide me with feedback |
| 17:47.29 | gramg | how dare you :P |
| 17:47.30 | cladhaire | KriLL3: the fact that you ahev so many systems that do that is your fault |
| 17:47.32 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: on what? |
| 17:47.33 | cladhaire | that's ALL TomTom dos |
| 17:47.35 | cladhaire | its not a map replacement |
| 17:47.38 | cladhaire | all it does is waypoints |
| 17:47.41 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: you have to to replicate the functionality |
| 17:47.42 | Primer | cladhaire: I'm trying to figure out what's clobbering it...that should be obvious |
| 17:47.49 | cladhaire | I don't have to do shit |
| 17:47.51 | cladhaire | its not cart |
| 17:47.53 | cladhaire | its not meant ot be car |
| 17:47.54 | cladhaire | its tomTom |
| 17:47.58 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: then why cant it make notes on the map into waypoints? |
| 17:47.59 | cladhaire | like.. I'm not sure what you'r enot understanding |
| 17:48.12 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: I don't understand what you mean |
| 17:48.12 | cladhaire | KriLL3: It does, and can. |
| 17:48.29 | cladhaire | ditto? |
| 17:48.36 | KriLL3 | when did tomtom become the central point of argument here |
| 17:48.38 | cladhaire | You're telling me its not the same as Cart |
| 17:48.45 | KriLL3 | I'm saying cart3 is a mess |
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| 17:49.02 | cladhaire | no |
| 17:49.04 | cladhaire | you said this |
| 17:49.05 | cladhaire | 18:45 KriLL3: cladhaire: I really hate the tomtom arrow |
| 17:49.06 | cladhaire | 18:45 KriLL3: and it's a lot less clean than the cart2 implementation |
| 17:49.08 | cladhaire | I am responding to that |
| 17:49.11 | cladhaire | and trying to get information |
| 17:49.12 | KriLL3 | cart3 + tomtom < cart2 in usability and appearance |
| 17:49.30 | KriLL3 | yes it's a lot messier implemented and the arrow is oddly scaled |
| 17:49.35 | Vexir | How do I change font styles (bold, italic, etc) in ClearFont2? The font files are there for the styles, I just can't seem to access them in game. |
| 17:49.45 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 17:49.54 | cladhaire | you can't just say its "messier implemented" that means nothing |
| 17:49.56 | KriLL3 | it distorts weirdly when moving, it got pixels in it that don't match the rest on the same plane etc |
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| 17:50.12 | cladhaire | as for the arrow graphic, suck up and deal, its the same exact arrow used in MapNotes2 and if I find a better alternative I'll use it |
| 17:50.13 | erikh | someone built it with a hockey stick? |
| 17:50.23 | gramg | For constructive feedback, one thing I miss from Cart_Way that I would like to see in TomTom (since I use it now cause I like everything else it does) is that if you place multibple waypoints it does not automatically select the next one. Ie no queue system for waypoints. Would love to see that in TomTom but not really NEEDED per se. |
| 17:50.31 | Aii | Vexir: "Changing the main UI font styles |
| 17:50.31 | Aii | The Design.lua file can be edited easily in notepad, and is annotated with extra information to help guide you. |
| 17:50.35 | Aii | Note that you will lose your changes if you completely update ClearFont2. " |
| 17:50.43 | Primer | cladhaire: well, my problem is definitely not TomTom |
| 17:50.45 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: what do you want me to say? the multiple rightclick options on the arrow to remove something, the huge note on the map when you make a waypoint, the odd handling of other notes, etc? |
| 17:50.59 | cladhaire | Okay |
| 17:51.03 | cladhaire | lets start one by one |
| 17:51.07 | cladhaire | if you actually want to mak eany progress |
| 17:51.12 | cladhaire | vagueness and bulk shit doesn't help anyone. |
| 17:51.20 | cladhaire | what do you mean the multiple rightclick options to remove something |
| 17:51.30 | cladhaire | you can remove all from the zone, remove the single waypoints, or remove all waypoints |
| 17:51.32 | cladhaire | why is that an issue? |
| 17:51.54 | Primer | so, anyone else not able to commit to wowace svn? |
| 17:52.07 | Aii | Primer: did you see my question above |
| 17:52.16 | Aii | are you trying to commit to svn.wowace.com instead of dev.wowace.com |
| 17:52.21 | cladhaire | Primer: you're commiting to svn.wowace.com.. you can't do that you must commit to dev.wowace.com as always. |
| 17:52.34 | cladhaire | KriLL3: as for "the huge note on the map when you make a waypoint".. what on earth do you mean? |
| 17:52.36 | Primer | how the hell did that happen |
| 17:52.37 | cncfanatics | indeed, svn. is read only |
| 17:52.48 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: the option to remove it from the arrow is my main problem, also it's horribly confusing to have that many options, cart_waypoint had 1 I think, "remove" |
| 17:52.51 | Primer | yeah, my bad |
| 17:52.53 | Primer | sorry |
| 17:53.06 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: why are more options bad ? |
| 17:53.12 | Josh_Borke | KriLL3: if you cannot handle choosing between 3 options, something is wrong |
| 17:53.15 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: right ctrl click in cart3 to add a tomtom waypoint and you get a note blob the size of a town |
| 17:53.22 | cncfanatics | just read what they do and design the right one :s |
| 17:53.27 | cladhaire | KriLL3: well TomTom has more, I may make them more clear.. but its not confusing |
| 17:53.47 | KriLL3 | it makes your destination obscured |
| 17:53.53 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 17:54.03 | KriLL3 | I think you missed my line before that one |
| 17:54.07 | gramg | note blob the size of a town? |
| 17:54.11 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 17:54.18 | gramg | says something like "add note"? |
| 17:54.33 | Aii | screenshot it, KriLL3. |
| 17:54.47 | KriLL3 | yeah I get an option to add a note since that's what right click normally does in cart3, I don't though, I just add the waypoint |
| 17:54.49 | gramg | that's cart3 I think hooking the same ctrl+rightclick that tomtom uses |
| 17:54.51 | cladhaire | I have to say, you're being terrible at reporting these issues. |
| 17:55.05 | gramg | though not huge when I tried cart3 |
| 17:55.08 | cladhaire | and that is frustrating |
| 17:55.18 | cladhaire | you seem to think everyone has these issues, and they don't.. so you have to be clear when reporting them |
| 17:55.23 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: I have no idea how these addons work, I just tell what I see |
| 17:55.33 | cladhaire | actually you don't, and that's the problem |
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| 17:55.37 | KriLL3 | screenshot coming |
| 17:55.40 | cladhaire | a screenshot, a description of the issue.. that's telling me the problem |
| 17:55.46 | Aii | screenshots > words when talking about UIs |
| 17:55.49 | Aii | :) |
| 17:56.01 | Josh_Borke | zomg, HUGE BLOB ON MY SCREEN!!!!!!111111 all your fault cladhaire! |
| 17:56.04 | KriLL3 | a note that looks like a friendly tracking icon in the minimap the size of a small town |
| 17:56.10 | a-stray-cat | 'lo |
| 17:56.19 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: hit printscreen |
| 17:56.25 | cncfanatics | and upload the screenshot on photobucket |
| 17:56.25 | a-stray-cat | is there a version of spellbinder for the wotlk beta? |
| 17:57.24 | Aii | I don't see one in branches/ a-stray-cat, so probably no. |
| 17:57.36 | a-stray-cat | ah |
| 17:57.51 | Aii | either the standard one works or it doesnt |
| 17:58.03 | Aii | and im guessing from your question it's the latter |
| 17:58.25 | CIA-45 | 03barfolomeu * r79777 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.lua Locale-enUS.lua embeds.xml): Collaborate with myself |
| 17:58.41 | cladhaire | I've just added a waypoint, and it works just fine in Cart3. |
| 17:58.46 | Aii | lol @ that commit, Primer |
| 17:58.46 | KriLL3 | http://krill3.com/photos/WoWScrnShot_080408_195706.jpg |
| 17:58.49 | Primer | wish there was a way to make CIA not show that |
| 17:58.51 | cladhaire | and cart3 has its own waypoint system |
| 17:59.05 | cladhaire | KriLL3: you're zoomed in, what do you want? |
| 17:59.10 | cladhaire | cart zooms in and zooms out the waypoint dot |
| 17:59.12 | cladhaire | nothing I can do about that |
| 17:59.13 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: it's still very large when zoomed out |
| 17:59.20 | cladhaire | not for me |
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| 17:59.35 | KriLL3 | add an option to scale it? :> |
| 17:59.39 | cladhaire | no |
| 17:59.42 | cladhaire | cart is the addon doing |
| 17:59.50 | cladhaire | it works just fine with every other map under the sun |
| 17:59.51 | Primer | Aii: that's the commit message I always use when I'm committing to simply be able to code from another location |
| 18:00.06 | Primer | and yes, I maintain my dev version in branches...strange, isn't it? |
| 18:00.08 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: that SS also shows the problem with the arrow being out of 1x1 |
| 18:00.09 | cladhaire | I'd have to OnUpdate and poll the scale and continue to change it |
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| 18:00.33 | KriLL3 | it's distorted to almost 2x1 |
| 18:00.34 | cladhaire | KriLL3: i dont understand what that means.. "out of 1x1"? |
| 18:00.34 | Aii | Primer: not entirely, due to WAU |
| 18:00.40 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: it's not square |
| 18:00.46 | cladhaire | its not supposed to be |
| 18:00.49 | gramg | need to chat with ck about scaling issues when zoomed in as it isn't TomTom only . . . any other mapnotes type addon gets scaled with the map |
| 18:00.51 | cladhaire | its not a square arrow? |
| 18:00.52 | Aii | once WAU goes away, it'll be "strange" to dev in branches yes |
| 18:00.57 | Primer | aii: yup, that's exactly why |
| 18:01.19 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: I'm trying to explain that it distorts as you turn it around, compared to other addons that use the same arrow |
| 18:01.28 | gramg | remember cart3 is in alpha |
| 18:01.30 | KriLL3 | it's taller than it is wide no matter how you turn |
| 18:01.57 | Aii | that's how it is for Cart2 for me, KriLL3 ... |
| 18:02.07 | KriLL3 | Aii: with cart2 it looked fine |
| 18:02.13 | cladhaire | that's how the arrow graphic is.. I do nothing with it |
| 18:02.16 | cladhaire | you should look at the graphic file. |
| 18:02.23 | Aii | well, "taller than it is wide" is "fine" for me, KriLL3 |
| 18:02.25 | Primer | so is Cart3 considered stable? |
| 18:03.01 | gramg | don't think so . . . could be wrong though . . . goes to find the curseforge project |
| 18:03.26 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: I got screenshots here for cart2's waypoint arrow looking a lot less distorted |
| 18:03.39 | cladhaire | I dont know that they're the same arrow graphic. |
| 18:03.44 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r79778 10RaidCooldowns/Cooldowns.lua: RaidCooldowns: Add Evasion |
| 18:03.51 | cncfanatics | Primer: no |
| 18:04.04 | KriLL3 | this SS is older than dirt though http://krill3.com/photos/WoWScrnShot_050308_201401.jpg |
| 18:04.27 | cladhaire | I'm not disputing there is an issue, but I'm trying to understand the alleged probelm. |
| 18:04.37 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: iirc, carto3 has scaling issues even with its own things |
| 18:04.47 | cladhaire | yeah the scaling issue is a cart thing |
| 18:04.51 | cladhaire | not sure how best to solve it |
| 18:04.55 | KriLL3 | it looks plain wonky as you turn around, the cart2 one looks like an actual object |
| 18:05.16 | cncfanatics | inversly scale all its children relative to its own scale, cladhaire ? |
| 18:05.20 | cncfanatics | so they stay the same size |
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| 18:05.40 | KriLL3 | cncfanatics: wouldn't that be a huge problem at really big zoomouts? |
| 18:05.50 | cladhaire | the point is, the addons can't fix it |
| 18:05.51 | KriLL3 | see the whole continent and you have ores etc all over it |
| 18:05.53 | cladhaire | its just not feasible. |
| 18:06.12 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: true, but a check can also be added for that :p |
| 18:06.30 | KriLL3 | I'm thinking this can only be solved at the cart3 end of the stick so to speak |
| 18:06.44 | cncfanatics | should bother ckk with it imo |
| 18:06.53 | cncfanatics | should be quite an easy fix of just a few lines of code |
| 18:07.03 | cladhaire | cncfanatics: you assume quite a bit :P |
| 18:07.18 | KriLL3 | wold also be nice if he fixed it going to the wrong zone every second time you open it... |
| 18:07.23 | cncfanatics | cladhaire: true enough |
| 18:07.32 | Aii | KriLL3: it /is/ sort of still developmental |
| 18:07.35 | cladhaire | Here is the arrow graphic |
| 18:07.36 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0529177c5def00a221d550dae88ae448.png |
| 18:07.44 | cladhaire | is that the distortion you are talking about? |
| 18:07.47 | cladhaire | i.e. is it the same? |
| 18:07.56 | KriLL3 | If you're in a bg and you open cart3 every second time it goes to the town you queued up in |
| 18:08.07 | cncfanatics | eek, aren't those calculated ? they're actualy all different graphics ? :o |
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| 18:08.13 | KriLL3 | no that one looks fine |
| 18:08.22 | cladhaire | then my math must be off somewhere. |
| 18:08.23 | KriLL3 | the arrow I got in tomtom atm doesn't look like that, it's a lot taller |
| 18:08.29 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r79779 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0.lua: |
| 18:08.29 | CIA-45 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 18:08.29 | CIA-45 | - Button now defaults to center of the screen |
| 18:08.45 | KriLL3 | http://krill3.com/photos/WoWScrnShot_080408_195706.jpg |
| 18:08.48 | cncfanatics | :o alar comitted |
| 18:08.55 | cladhaire | i can't see much fo a difference |
| 18:08.57 | KriLL3 | look at that arrow and compare it to the one pointing the same direction in your picture |
| 18:08.59 | cladhaire | you're the one its driving nuts |
| 18:09.02 | cladhaire | but i'm working on it. |
| 18:09.36 | KriLL3 | it's near 2x taller than it's wide, I'd guess it's a texture x & y thing |
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| 18:09.48 | cladhaire | yep |
| 18:09.54 | cladhaire | the height and width are reversed |
| 18:09.57 | cladhaire | easy enough to fix. |
| 18:09.58 | KriLL3 | am I the only one that got this? |
| 18:10.05 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 18:10.08 | Aii | no, just the only one who cares :P |
| 18:10.11 | cladhaire | no everyone just bitches |
| 18:10.17 | cladhaire | without actually helping me figure out the problem |
| 18:10.24 | KriLL3 | Aii: I'm a graphical artist... I'm like that... |
| 18:10.45 | cladhaire | I'm normally sensitive too |
| 18:10.47 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: bah, bitching is the best form of QA |
| 18:10.53 | cladhaire | but when people like you come and just say "it looks like shit" |
| 18:10.53 | cladhaire | nah |
| 18:10.59 | cladhaire | bitching is one way to have me ignore every word you say |
| 18:11.01 | cladhaire | I won't and don't stand for it. |
| 18:11.04 | Aii | I'm an IT person... I'm like that with people reporting problems :P |
| 18:11.07 | cladhaire | constructive feedback, or get the fuck out. |
| 18:11.10 | KriLL3 | I never said it looked like shit, just said it looked odd |
| 18:11.15 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: I worked at a callcenter in july, I was MUCH more inclined to help non-bitching people |
| 18:11.16 | cladhaire | you didn't others did |
| 18:11.21 | cladhaire | but you lacked as much detail :P |
| 18:11.57 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: now, how do I make a note into a waypoint? is it a rightclick option? I'm not seeing it |
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| 18:12.18 | cladhaire | KriLL3: what do you mean.. cart notes are completely different from TomTom |
| 18:12.25 | cladhaire | you're mixing the two systems |
| 18:12.30 | KriLL3 | 4 actually |
| 18:12.32 | cladhaire | TomTom only has waypoints |
| 18:12.36 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 18:12.40 | cladhaire | and it only works with TomTom waypoints |
| 18:12.45 | a-stray-cat | is there a WAU-like program for wotlk addons? |
| 18:12.49 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that keeps notes you can turn into waypoints? |
| 18:12.53 | Pneumatus | are there any addons now that succesfully track prayer of mending? |
| 18:12.55 | Aii | no, a-stray-cat |
| 18:12.59 | cladhaire | KriLL3: Cart3 has a waypoint system. |
| 18:13.03 | cladhaire | not sure why you're not using it if that's waht you want |
| 18:13.12 | Aii | except possibly using WoWI's updater for the few addons in their WotLK category |
| 18:13.16 | KriLL3 | say I want to have a note on a point of interest and make a waypoint out of it when I want to go there |
| 18:13.17 | a-stray-cat | is there an easy way to get them, or do i have to grab em off the SVN? :/ |
| 18:13.24 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: errm, it's broken for me |
| 18:13.31 | cladhaire | ik didn't say it worked :P |
| 18:13.33 | KriLL3 | I don't get an arrow, just a blinking square and text |
| 18:13.36 | Aii | a-stray-cat: if they're in branch, then you'll have to grab them off svn |
| 18:13.49 | a-stray-cat | ah. |
| 18:13.49 | a-stray-cat | thanks. |
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| 18:14.01 | KriLL3 | also for some odd reason all notes I add on the map don't show on the minimap... |
| 18:14.53 | KriLL3 | I dunno if that's just a missing piece yet to get completed or if it's a bug |
| 18:15.04 | Aii | points at ckknight |
| 18:15.56 | KriLL3 | I had a colored dot on the 4 teleport clusters in shattrath for example, and all places of interest in towns, it's a bit bewildered without em =P |
| 18:16.06 | cladhaire | KriLL3: change commited and pushed. |
| 18:16.07 | KriLL3 | *I'm |
| 18:16.10 | KriLL3 | ty |
| 18:16.16 | cladhaire | thanks for the help |
| 18:16.20 | cladhaire | now do that in the beginning next time |
| 18:16.21 | KriLL3 | "help"... =P |
| 18:16.38 | KriLL3 | I wasn't quite sure if it was intentional or not |
| 18:17.39 | KriLL3 | btw you made lightheaded? |
| 18:17.45 | Primer | cladhaire: Another observation: When I add the waypoint on the map, I see it initially, then it goes away |
| 18:17.56 | cladhaire | yes I made lightheaded |
| 18:18.04 | cladhaire | Primer: again, this doesn't happy without cart2, correct? |
| 18:18.06 | KriLL3 | is there a way to hide it when you don't need it? |
| 18:18.09 | cladhaire | cause that's _never_ been reported |
| 18:18.12 | cladhaire | KriLL3: to hide LH? |
| 18:18.16 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 18:18.20 | cladhaire | KriLL3: yes, just click the X in the top right hand corner |
| 18:18.23 | cladhaire | or the nubbin on the rigth |
| 18:18.28 | KriLL3 | nothing |
| 18:18.34 | KriLL3 | clicked both and nothing happens |
| 18:18.40 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 18:19.17 | KriLL3 | I'm using the double wide addon also though, dunno if it could interfere |
| 18:19.21 | cladhaire | nope |
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| 18:19.55 | Primer | cladhaire: I have a million addons, it's hard to "just enable tomtom and cart2" |
| 18:19.58 | cladhaire | it works, I don't know what to tell you |
| 18:20.01 | Primer | well |
| 18:20.04 | cladhaire | Primer: make a new character ona new server |
| 18:20.07 | cladhaire | its a hell of a lot simpler |
| 18:20.08 | Primer | I also have externals disabled |
| 18:20.10 | Aii | Primer: use ACP :P |
| 18:20.10 | cladhaire | this is basic troubleshooting |
| 18:20.15 | cladhaire | then don't talk to me :P |
| 18:20.29 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: I'm running a million addons, I'm quite certain it's one of em doing something stupid |
| 18:20.41 | Aii | KriLL3: So figure out which one of them it is |
| 18:20.44 | cladhaire | KriLL3: well then how am I supposed to fix it for you |
| 18:20.49 | KriLL3 | it's funny, ACP doesn't list a number of addons I use for some weird reason |
| 18:20.49 | Aii | I hate to say it, but we're not magical gurus |
| 18:20.56 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: magic? :> |
| 18:21.01 | cladhaire | actually the nubbin is the only one that worksw |
| 18:21.05 | cladhaire | the X closes the quest log, by request |
| 18:21.17 | cladhaire | you probably run skinner |
| 18:21.18 | NeoTron_ | I really wish there was an addon organizer that showed dependencies in a graph |
| 18:21.19 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 18:21.21 | cladhaire | and its probably fucking with it. |
| 18:21.45 | NeoTron_ | ACP is nice and all but libs just makes is so much more annoying. |
| 18:22.15 | Aii | NeoTron_: would treeview be enough? |
| 18:22.18 | KriLL3 | ah now when I attached it again I see that small thing on the side |
| 18:22.21 | NeoTron_ | Aii: probably |
| 18:22.25 | Aii | hopefully you wouldnt have any cycles in your dependency graph |
| 18:22.26 | Aii | lol |
| 18:22.27 | cladhaire | KriLL3: no there's no way to hide a detached frame |
| 18:22.31 | cladhaire | how would you bring it back up again? |
| 18:22.34 | NeoTron_ | well if there were.. that'd be bad :P |
| 18:22.44 | KriLL3 | cladhaire: more magic? |
| 18:22.53 | Aii | KriLL3: |
| 18:22.54 | Dark_Elf | i had the weirdest thing happen in game, i died, then i looked and tom tom was pointing down and the corpse was to the top so i ran to the corpse and tomtom was still pointing down hehe |
| 18:22.59 | Aii | you code a LibMagic for me |
| 18:23.01 | Aii | and I'll use it |
| 18:23.03 | KriLL3 | anyway, it's a bit odd imo that the X doesn't do the same, having 2x X that does the same thing is a bit... redundant |
| 18:23.18 | NeoTron_ | seems like by the time we get into beta, the pureness of the test will be gone |
| 18:23.33 | cladhaire | i could make the X different when its detached, but people HATED that it didn't close the quest log |
| 18:23.36 | Pneumatus | am i right in thinking that GUIDs are unique per unit? |
| 18:23.36 | Aii | Dark_Elf: waypoints dont have vertical position information |
| 18:23.38 | KriLL3 | and it does say still "Click to close lightheaded" :> |
| 18:23.41 | cladhaire | overwhelmingly |
| 18:23.43 | NeoTron_ | I remember, less than fondly, when the original alpha became closed beta and then became open beta (the latter was so bad) |
| 18:23.48 | cladhaire | well, it does close lightheaded :P |
| 18:23.49 | Aii | Dark_Elf: "down" just means "you're really close horizontally" |
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| 18:24.34 | Aii | cladhaire: could have a toggle option :) |
| 18:24.51 | KriLL3 | am I the only guy that always open my quest log with a keyboard key? |
| 18:24.54 | Aii | "X closes questlog [yes/no]" |
| 18:25.00 | NeoTron_ | so I added the option to play a sound in my MagicDKP_Client (for standby calls)... and people updated but didn't realize until I did a call |
| 18:25.03 | cladhaire | LH has no options at all righ tnow. |
| 18:25.09 | NeoTron_ | I picked "Cartoon FX" as the default sound... |
| 18:25.09 | cladhaire | KriLL3: no, i always open it with the keyboard |
| 18:25.20 | cladhaire | Aii: there are quite a number of options that'll get added before that one :P |
| 18:25.23 | NeoTron_ | for the lolfactor when people jump in their chairs when it plays |
| 18:25.36 | Aii | lol NeoTron_ |
| 18:25.48 | Aii | reminds me of the first time I did a raid after installing bigwigs |
| 18:25.59 | Aii | boss dies "OMG" |
| 18:26.07 | Funkeh` | like the first time you have sex |
| 18:26.15 | Aii | how would you know Funkeh` |
| 18:26.23 | Aii | >.> |
| 18:26.34 | Funkeh` | Aii, you don't want to explore that |
| 18:26.42 | Aii | ...you're right, i probably dont |
| 18:26.57 | Funkeh` | and I meant in general, not "you" ;p |
| 18:27.20 | Aii | and I meant you, not me :P |
| 18:27.25 | Funkeh` | I know :) |
| 18:27.28 | NeoTron_ | I think there's a problem with the language when you have to specify which "you" you're talking about |
| 18:27.57 | NeoTron_ | in my time as a guild leader, I find myself often needing to clarify that "you" doesn't mean the person I'm talkign about but the general term |
| 18:28.13 | KriLL3 | Bigwigs is nice and all but I really wish you added the stuff you wanted to see instead of it adding all by default... I really don't need when guy #13 sneezes... |
| 18:29.06 | NeoTron_ | then disable it? |
| 18:29.16 | NeoTron_ | it's better to have a "show all" default than "show none" |
| 18:29.36 | KriLL3 | and I can't for the life of me figure out how to announce to chat when something bad is about to happen with it's "plugin" littlewigs |
| 18:31.05 | KriLL3 | I want me to warn people when a boss is doing something you need to do something about etc but I can't figure it out |
| 18:31.15 | NeoTron_ | it should by default |
| 18:31.23 | NeoTron_ | in a 5-man y ou can do /rw without being a leader |
| 18:31.34 | NeoTron_ | I know that, in the past at least, littlewigs did that for me |
| 18:31.37 | KriLL3 | I didn't touch anything and it doesn't |
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| 18:33.30 | KriLL3 | btw how do you configure littlewigs? can't see anything related to it mentioned in the bigwigs config stuff and /littlewigs and /lw doesn't do anything |
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| 18:38.46 | Aii | um |
| 18:38.51 | Aii | it's in bigwigs |
| 18:39.01 | KriLL3 | yeah found it |
| 18:39.22 | KriLL3 | seems it does broadcast but I don't see it myself... nice and all but it's very easy to assume you're not saying anything :> |
| 18:40.27 | KriLL3 | and now I know why it to my mind assigns skulls to people "randomly" :> |
| 18:40.46 | Aii | you have BossBlock turned on |
| 18:40.52 | Aii | that's why you don't see it |
| 18:40.53 | KriLL3 | it's on by default |
| 18:41.15 | Aii | yes, because otherwise you'd by default see duplicate messages |
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| 18:41.26 | Aii | the ones generated by BigWigs, and the ones from rw |
| 18:41.30 | KriLL3 | does the addon start by itself on bosses even if I disabled bigwigs in it's menu? |
| 18:41.45 | KriLL3 | Aii: fun if more than one person got bigwigs... |
| 18:42.07 | KriLL3 | especially fun in raids |
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| 18:42.14 | Aii | hence why bossblock is on |
| 18:42.29 | cncfanatics | it blocks duplicated messages, not only yours, iirc |
| 18:42.33 | Aii | correct |
| 18:43.59 | KriLL3 | cncfanatics: I got that |
| 18:44.21 | KriLL3 | it's just a bit confusing since it looks like by default you don't broadcast |
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| 18:57.17 | Aii | btw Xinhuan, the uncredited Routes got removed off WoWUI |
| 18:57.54 | CIA-45 | 03Shamahan * r79780 10SimpleBar/ (. SimpleBar.toc embeds.xml): |
| 18:57.54 | CIA-45 | SimpleBar: |
| 18:57.54 | CIA-45 | - Fix externals |
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| 19:45.27 | fewyn | ~lart Belazor |
| 19:45.27 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses Belazor down |
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| 19:54.46 | kagaro | hrmm anyone on beta figure out GetThreatStatusColor ? |
| 19:55.59 | Fisker- | oooh |
| 19:56.01 | Fisker- | i got it kagaro |
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| 19:56.45 | kagaro | you figure out the input? I know what it returns |
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| 19:57.29 | kagaro | im guessing UnitThreatSituation(indicator.unit); return a value from o to 130 maybe |
| 19:57.39 | Fisker- | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/69.html <-lololl, etc. |
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| 19:58.11 | kagaro | lols |
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| 20:09.01 | NeoTron_ | anyone else think UnitThreatSituation is a really weird name? |
| 20:09.11 | NeoTron_ | I mean.. "situation"? wut? |
| 20:10.21 | NeoTron_ | http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6343/everdarkwg2.jpg so this guy was unable to pop into tree form (after multiple tells, raid warning etc), wasn't on vent, and in phase 2 illidan didn't join one of the 4 groups (any would have been fine) but instead stood all by himself outside the grid (how he avoided getting wtfpwned and enraging the adds I don't know) |
| 20:10.27 | ulic | I think they did situation because the threat isn't returned 0-130, it's actually done on the backend and only returns 0-100 based on the current threat holder and if you are range/melee |
| 20:10.46 | NeoTron_ | ulic: but.. UnitThreatDetailedSituation does |
| 20:10.52 | ulic | oh |
| 20:10.52 | NeoTron_ | return the absolute value I mean |
| 20:11.09 | ulic | the detailed does 0-130%? |
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| 20:13.40 | NeoTron_ | there's 0-100, and 0-130% I think. plus the actual raw threat number |
| 20:13.41 | ulic | I guess they could have just left out the word situation, I'm sure they had a good reason to name it that way, or maybe they didn't and it will change before live. |
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| 20:33.20 | illixil | fuck... |
| 20:33.24 | illixil | im bored of WoW now |
| 20:33.47 | Aii | play something else then? |
| 20:34.02 | illixil | i did |
| 20:34.12 | illixil | played enemy territory... |
| 20:34.17 | illixil | got kicked fromt the server |
| 20:34.18 | illixil | =[ |
| 20:34.48 | Aii | whatever for o.o |
| 20:34.53 | illixil | uh |
| 20:34.54 | illixil | tking |
| 20:34.55 | illixil | =D |
| 20:35.08 | Aii | that's your own fault then o.o |
| 20:35.14 | illixil | yeah i guess |
| 20:35.14 | illixil | =p |
| 20:35.20 | kenlyric | The Wonderful End of the World |
| 20:35.26 | illixil | im bored of that game anyways |
| 20:35.32 | illixil | oh wait i still have flyff |
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| 20:40.06 | illixil | yeah fuck flyff |
| 20:40.07 | illixil | lame pos |
| 20:40.11 | illixil | so what are yall doin? |
| 20:40.38 | profalbert | raiding hyjal |
| 20:40.41 | profalbert | is really bored |
| 20:41.10 | illixil | same |
| 20:41.24 | starlon | avoiding fires means no irc! |
| 20:41.48 | profalbert | not at archi yet, had to kill illidan first today |
| 20:41.56 | starlon | hehe |
| 20:42.00 | profalbert | --> bored |
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| 20:42.46 | profalbert | also, SL/SL-spec really sucks there |
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| 20:44.14 | illixil | okay |
| 20:44.16 | illixil | back to wow |
| 20:44.18 | illixil | -.- |
| 20:47.30 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 20:47.30 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of Vulcanus |
| 20:47.40 | dieck | Hi! I have a problem with an addon updating from ace2 to ace3. I have a core.lua initalizing MyAddon, an option table loaded by AceOption, and a MyAddon:cmdSomething function called by /myaddon something. |
| 20:47.44 | dieck | If I put function MyAddon:cmdSomething in core.lua it works great. If I add another file slashcommands.lua into the toc file and put MyAddon:cmdSomething there I get an error AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua line 83: AceConfigCmd-3.0: /myaddon test : 'func': 'cmdTest' is not a member function of MyAddon |
| 20:48.32 | Xuerian | dieck: Load slashcommands.lua after core.lua in the toc |
| 20:48.50 | dieck | yes, I do that already |
| 20:49.18 | dieck | as I had with ace2. the MyAddon object would be not available otherwise |
| 20:49.55 | Aii | dieck, did you declare your addon object as local? |
| 20:50.19 | Aii | when you libstub AceAddon-3.0, what does that line begin with? |
| 20:50.46 | dieck | no, the first line of core.lua reads MyAddon = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("MyAddon", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0"); |
| 20:51.05 | dieck | (without the special chars showing in irc here :) |
| 20:51.55 | Aii | are you registering your options table in the main chunk, or in OnInitialize() |
| 20:52.28 | dieck | in OnInitialize |
| 20:52.40 | dieck | what was that page to post code snippets? :) |
| 20:52.47 | Aii | ace.pastey.net |
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| 20:55.39 | dieck | toc: http://ace.pastey.net/93092 |
| 20:55.39 | dieck | core.lua http://ace.pastey.net/93091 |
| 20:55.41 | dieck | slashcommands.lua http://ace.pastey.net/93093 |
| 20:56.30 | Groktar | looks |
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| 21:00.37 | Hjalte | Can you repair in the middle of Gnomeregan as Alliance? |
| 21:00.48 | Lan|Away | Hmmmm...I've removed all addons that make tweaks to the Minimap frame, and still my addon configuration causes the little black square of the mail icon to be visible to pMinimap, but not when pMinimap is the only thing running...Ugh... |
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| 21:01.14 | dieck | Hjalte: I think you can just sell stuff. I don't remember, maybe you can repair too |
| 21:01.19 | Lan|Away | Damned escape key |
| 21:01.47 | Aii | dieck: so these exact same functions work if you cut/paste them into core.lua? |
| 21:01.56 | dieck | Aii: yes |
| 21:02.32 | NeoTron_ | Barrel scares me! |
| 21:02.57 | NeoTron_ | I mean, it's an addon to put buttons on your minimap using a framework which, I gather, most people use to avoid putting buttons on their minimap :P |
| 21:06.40 | Aii | dieck: you might try a simple test to see if the second file can see MyAddon as a variable |
| 21:07.01 | Aii | add some code in the slash file, MyAddon.blah = "whatever" |
| 21:07.07 | Aii | and test to see if it's set in OnInitialize |
| 21:07.23 | dieck | I |
| 21:07.26 | dieck | 'll try |
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| 21:09.57 | dieck | grrr, dumb error. a last "end" was missing in the slashcommands.lua, and Eclipse's lua mod does not check for that kind of error, obviously... so the slashcommands.lua was not loaded. thanks for all your tips ;) |
| 21:10.17 | Saroz_ | what color are death knights in the UI? |
| 21:10.21 | Saroz_ | black? |
| 21:10.59 | clad|sleep | dark purple, imo |
| 21:11.01 | Matrix110| | In Notepad++ its easy to notice if you didnt finish a function properly! |
| 21:11.02 | ckknight | reddish |
| 21:11.27 | Matrix110| | But I guess Eclipse is a bit more powerfull if you know how to use it :D |
| 21:12.01 | Stanzilla | Saroz_: a blue-ish red |
| 21:12.26 | Stanzilla | #C41F3B |
| 21:12.29 | Lanerra | Usually when one addon is conflicting with another, it's safe to assume that it isn't two addons conflicting...right? |
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| 21:12.35 | NeoTron_ | man I need to put away about 1000g at least for "raid spec experimentation" in wotlk |
| 21:12.42 | Saroz_ | hrm red |
| 21:12.44 | Lanerra | Or rather, that you are aware there is a conflict somewhere |
| 21:12.45 | Saroz_ | true, unused color |
| 21:12.54 | dieck | Matrix110|: I got used to eclipse for java, c, php and so I started using it for lua, too. it's nice, but obviously it could do with a better check routine |
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| 21:13.30 | Lanerra | I prefer SciTE for my Lua editing |
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| 21:14.55 | erikh | vim or emacs |
| 21:14.57 | erikh | there is nothing else |
| 21:14.57 | erikh | noobs |
| 21:14.58 | erikh | :P |
| 21:15.34 | Matrix110| | Well if you are used to something switching is annoying :P |
| 21:17.18 | illixil | whoa |
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| 21:17.23 | illixil | wtfux |
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| 21:18.24 | Aii | that's what's called a netsplit, illixil |
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| 21:22.33 | Matrix110| | with a script you dont even notice it that much :P |
| 21:22.43 | Matrix110| | in vanilla mirc its pure spam |
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| 21:23.29 | Aii | irssi handles it gracefully |
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| 21:23.39 | Aii | 14:16 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Drundia, Arrowmaster, Navv, jy__, ashb, Kep, Breeze, Kuosi, zeroau, NeoTron, (+17 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) |
| 21:23.51 | Matrix110| | Getting a message like that aswell |
| 21:24.28 | durcyn | people use mirc? >_< |
| 21:24.37 | Neya | I do :P |
| 21:24.53 | Matrix110| | If you got used to mIRC changing is hard :P |
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| 21:35.44 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79781 10LittleWigs/ (7 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: added/fixed typo ruRU |
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| 21:38.21 | Xuerian | I just hide join/quits >_>... after long enough in here, I just don't care :P |
| 21:38.32 | Gagorian | Is there a better event for player joining or leaving raid than RAID_ROSTER_UPDATED? |
| 21:38.41 | Gagorian | Don't really need group switches etc |
| 21:38.51 | Aii | dont believe so |
| 21:39.47 | Aii | you could store the current raid size locally |
| 21:39.52 | Aii | and then just see if it has changed |
| 21:40.11 | Aii | if it hasnt, then just ignore the event |
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| 21:53.10 | Lanerra | HA! I found the culprit for why the Minimap Mail Icon's backdrop was visible on pMinimap! It was Skinner...damn it, I should've realized that |
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| 21:58.57 | Primer | Do any context menus, like DewDrop, support "overlays"? |
| 21:59.16 | ckknight | overlays? |
| 21:59.27 | Primer | where, I know what the name of the menu is, and I can say "Add another option named 'foo', between options 2 and 3"? |
| 21:59.35 | Neo|Home | speaking of context menus, is there a libstub menu system yet? |
| 21:59.38 | Primer | That's what it's calling in firefox addons |
| 21:59.45 | Neo|Home | or ace3 |
| 21:59.56 | Primer | for example, if you want to add your own option to the "Tools" drop down |
| 22:00.27 | Primer | you create an overlay, and overlay it onto the existing "Tools" drop down element |
| 22:00.44 | Primer | err |
| 22:00.48 | Primer | s/calling/called/ |
| 22:01.14 | ckknight | Neo|Home: I thought about rewriting Dewdrop, but frankly haven't run into a situation that needs such complex dropdowns, I just use Blizz's now |
| 22:01.27 | Neo|Home | guess that's an option too |
| 22:01.34 | Neo|Home | I have honestly not looked at blizz ones |
| 22:01.42 | Lanerra | Why do I see people doing that? Stuff like, "s/calling/called/"? |
| 22:01.45 | Primer | I recall that when I was looking into extending another addon's drop down, I had to patch the other addon |
| 22:01.46 | Neo|Home | jsut figured for LDB plugins that don't use ace2 stuff |
| 22:02.02 | Neo|Home | Lanerra: sed replace ... workd like this |
| 22:02.06 | Neo|Home | s/workd/works/ |
| 22:02.26 | Primer | non-windows people don't get it |
| 22:02.27 | Primer | err |
| 22:02.33 | Primer | non-UNIX people don't get it |
| 22:02.39 | Lanerra | Clearly :P |
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| 22:03.02 | Lanerra | So...it's correcting a typo? |
| 22:03.09 | Neo|Home | essentially yes |
| 22:03.10 | Primer | in my case, yes |
| 22:03.15 | Lanerra | Gotcha |
| 22:03.18 | Neo|Home | the simplified version |
| 22:03.30 | Aii | sed can do a lot of substitution-type stuff |
| 22:03.37 | Neo|Home | another often seen method is like tihs |
| 22:03.38 | Neo|Home | *this |
| 22:03.39 | Primer | except sed is POSIX |
| 22:03.46 | Primer | by default |
| 22:04.01 | Lanerra | So, it'll automatically enter the corrected text for you? |
| 22:04.07 | Quaiche | The s/this/that/ syntax is also vi/vim syntax, so sometimes people who know vim but don't know sed recognize it anyway |
| 22:04.12 | Aii | s/(.)/\1_/ |
| 22:04.15 | Primer | don't forget perl! |
| 22:04.38 | Aii | boo |
| 22:04.40 | Lanerra | I hope p3lim comes back soon. I want to tell him about Skinner messing up the bit out of his code in pMinimap |
| 22:04.46 | Neo|Home | not sure what level of support purl has though |
| 22:04.47 | Lanerra | Or rather, it conflicting with his code |
| 22:05.00 | Primer | I said perl, not purl |
| 22:06.19 | Neo|Home | Primer: and I said purl not perl |
| 22:06.27 | Neo|Home | and I meant what I said |
| 22:06.48 | Primer | bla bla bla bla bla |
| 22:06.51 | Primer | s/bla/foo/g |
| 22:06.56 | Primer | bla bla bla bla bla |
| 22:06.59 | Primer | s/bla/foo/ |
| 22:07.04 | binder | Anyone else been having errors with inflight? |
| 22:07.12 | Aii | bla bla bla |
| 22:07.16 | Aii | s/bla/foo/g |
| 22:07.34 | binder | eh? isn't it .,s/ ? |
| 22:07.41 | Primer | bla bla bla bla bla |
| 22:07.48 | Primer | s,bla,foo, |
| 22:08.01 | Primer | heh, it doesn't recognize other delimiters |
| 22:08.06 | Neo|Home | suspect purl triggers on s/ |
| 22:08.11 | Primer | surely |
| 22:08.23 | Neo|Home | can't really trigger on s<whatever>XXX<whatever>YYY :P |
| 22:08.28 | Primer | It's an entirely different kind of delimiter, altogether |
| 22:08.53 | Primer | Guess I picked a bad week to quite making stupid movie references |
| 22:08.56 | Lanerra | Now, I just need to figure out how to get some zone text on pMinimap |
| 22:09.00 | Primer | s/quite/quit/ |
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| 22:10.35 | Aii | 12345 |
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| 22:11.12 | Aii | s/([0-9])/\1 /g |
| 22:11.16 | Aii | sadface |
| 22:12.53 | Aii | http://www.w3.org/2003/07/30-font-size is the most informative document ever |
| 22:18.00 | ckknight | Aii: very. |
| 22:18.27 | Xuerian | oh shit, someone divided by zero |
| 22:19.37 | Fisker- | Aii the most informative document doesn't work ;_; |
| 22:20.31 | Aii | thinks Fisker- missed the point |
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| 22:22.31 | Fisker- | no u |
| 22:23.20 | Neo|Home | good thing though.. it was found |
| 22:23.56 | Aii | indeed. |
| 22:24.00 | Aii | imagine if it had been lost. |
| 22:27.01 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 22:27.28 | Chompers | kalecgos is hard :< |
| 22:27.47 | Fisker- | your mom |
| 22:27.56 | Chompers | there's portals and stuff, and a dude in a big shadow bubble, i had no idea what was going on |
| 22:28.01 | Fisker- | l2p |
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| 22:28.21 | Fisker- | i need EU staff with balls |
| 22:28.41 | Fisker- | Want someone to enforce those "This is a beta, you got invited, you can get uninvited"-rules |
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| 22:29.51 | Aii | Fisker-: what, more pallies running around 1-shotting people? |
| 22:30.27 | Xinhuan | does anyone have a recent combatlog of illidari council? |
| 22:30.35 | Chompers | pallies don't dps, silly goose |
| 22:31.52 | Fisker- | nah Aii |
| 22:32.08 | Fisker- | people who think they are to set any demands on server stability, game stability, etc. |
| 22:32.57 | |Pixel| | Fisker-: hm ? |
| 22:33.14 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557212127&sid=2003 <-this guy |
| 22:33.21 | Fisker- | he's had several whine posts by now :P |
| 22:33.44 | Neo|Home | is theer a report functionality? |
| 22:33.51 | Fisker- | report post? |
| 22:33.52 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 22:36.48 | Xinhuan | lua> 0x59a8 |
| 22:36.49 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 22952 |
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| 22:39.46 | Zyndrome | http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17502 , do want |
| 23:01.42 | Primer | Blood Pact now works raid-wide (not just in party). |
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| 23:01.43 | Primer | wow |
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| 23:04.56 | Gnarfoz | Aii: from sunday, what do you need? |
| 23:06.10 | Aii | um, I'm not sure now Gnarfoz :P |
| 23:06.14 | Aii | context? |
| 23:06.16 | Xuerian | Primer: Awesome |
| 23:06.34 | Gnarfoz | Aii: oh. |
| 23:06.46 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: yeah, got a log from sunday. what do you need? |
| 23:06.47 | Primer | big changes for warlocks |
| 23:07.06 | Primer | seems that they're trying to make it so that DS/SF isn't the only raid spec |
| 23:07.15 | Xinhuan | need the combat log |
| 23:07.27 | Primer | by gimping destro and buffing demon and affliction |
| 23:07.49 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: sure, I'll gut this 500mb log apart, just a sec ;p |
| 23:08.35 | Pkekyo| | anyone know the steam launch option to launch in windowed mode? |
| 23:08.50 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.27 | Harshmage | -steamrockzorzthebig!!1one |
| 23:09.28 | Xinhuan | 500 mb? lol |
| 23:10.05 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: yeah, I'm lazy. procrastinating > properly cutting up my combat log ;) |
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| 23:13.25 | Neo|Home | Primer: ... |
| 23:13.44 | Primer | I wish they'd indicate which direction a spell's mana cost went when they say "Foo now costs 12% of base mana" |
| 23:13.45 | Neo|Home | Primer: more like making destro (high number of points) viable for raiding, more so than picking up DS |
| 23:14.16 | Neo|Home | Conflagrate + Backdraft + Fire and Brimstone .. |
| 23:14.36 | Primer | I need to take a look at this barber shop thing |
| 23:14.42 | Primer | my toon has always been fugly |
| 23:15.36 | Neo|Home | my destro spec has like 55+ pts in destruction |
| 23:16.11 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 23:16.35 | Gnarfoz | if you managed to one-shot one of the illidari-council members right on the initial pull... you'd only be fighting 3. ;D |
| 23:16.37 | Primer | heh, I've actually rolled Destro _once_ |
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| 23:16.55 | Neo|Home | Gnarfoz: ... err? |
| 23:17.05 | Ackis | ~seen thaoky |
| 23:17.07 | purl | i haven't seen 'thaoky', Ackis |
| 23:17.07 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: Empyreal Balance is applied after pulling them |
| 23:17.18 | Ackis | hmm is thaoky on irc in another form? |
| 23:17.18 | Aii | Gnarfoz: I'd assume it's like the trash before Curator |
| 23:17.22 | Gnarfoz | immediately after the first dmg is taken by any one of them |
| 23:17.29 | Aii | and hits are capped out so that it can't kill them :P |
| 23:17.32 | Primer | I prefer to remain pvp spec |
| 23:17.40 | Neo|Home | that is different |
| 23:17.47 | Primer | btw, has anyone figured out how to apply riding crop to a summoned mount? |
| 23:17.48 | Neo|Home | it seems like from pvp they are trying to make all trees viable |
| 23:17.52 | Gnarfoz | Aii: they already stand around with mana shield up |
| 23:17.59 | Aii | Gnarfoz: not always |
| 23:18.00 | Gnarfoz | council however does not |
| 23:18.16 | Gnarfoz | Aii: only when you abused the FD thing >_> and then you CAN kill them ;p |
| 23:18.31 | Aii | we still get them to 1% hp as we pull |
| 23:18.38 | Aii | you just can't FD and have them drop it again |
| 23:19.44 | Gnarfoz | anyway, they are not the illidari council, and it's unlikely you'd be able to kill any one of them, heh |
| 23:19.55 | Gnarfoz | in one attack, that is |
| 23:19.56 | Aii | true :P |
| 23:20.05 | Aii | import a wotlk beta pally :P |
| 23:20.07 | fewyn | for the horde! |
| 23:20.08 | Gnarfoz | btw, wowhead's health numbers are totally worthless |
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| 23:29.22 | Pneumatus | guys, with acelocale2 is the standard way to include un-transalted strings in locale files as ["some string"] = "some string" with just the english version default? |
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| 23:30.22 | Gnarfoz | ["some string"] = true, I'd say |
| 23:30.48 | Pneumatus | it bitches about setting true for anything other than enUS apparently |
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| 23:31.01 | Aii | just don't include it, I believe |
| 23:31.04 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 23:31.22 | Pneumatus | Can only accept true as a value on the base locale. "enUS" is the base locale, "deDE" is not. |
| 23:31.27 | Pneumatus | is apparently the error message |
| 23:31.30 | Gnarfoz | put it inside a if GetLocale() ~= "ruRU" then (or whatever) block. |
| 23:31.50 | Gnarfoz | err... == |
| 23:31.54 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 23:31.58 | Gnarfoz | I guess I'm too sleepy |
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| 23:32.07 | Gnarfoz | because my answer doesn't actually solve anything for your case |
| 23:32.08 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 23:32.23 | Pneumatus | no, i have a partial deDE translation, but ive added new strings which still need localising |
| 23:32.28 | Aii | Pneumatus: I *think* you can just omit (or comment out) the line |
| 23:32.41 | Aii | just comment out the ones that need localizing |
| 23:32.50 | Aii | and they can be uncommented when a localization for them is added |
| 23:32.52 | Pneumatus | wont AceLocale moan that the translations are missing in that case? |
| 23:33.00 | Pneumatus | or will it fall back to enUS? |
| 23:33.03 | Aii | it defaults to whatever the default locale is |
| 23:33.09 | Aii | if a localized version is missing |
| 23:33.10 | Pneumatus | aha |
| 23:33.33 | Aii | only complains if neither the current nor a default locale is registered |
| 23:33.35 | Ackis | it throws an error though right? |
| 23:33.48 | Neo|Home | In Ace3 it does for sure |
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| 23:35.15 | Pneumatus | i guess i could err on the side of caution and do ["some string"]="some string" |
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| 23:35.26 | Pneumatus | in which case it will not get a chance to error |
| 23:36.45 | Aii | there appears to be GetTranslation and GetStrictTranslation |
| 23:37.01 | Aii | GetTranslation falls back to default if the current locale doesnt have it |
| 23:37.07 | Aii | GetStrict doesnt |
| 23:37.34 | Pneumatus | even in Ace2? |
| 23:37.48 | Aii | this is only in Ace2 that I'm looking at |
| 23:37.54 | Aii | specifically, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua |
| 23:37.59 | Pneumatus | is there a way to fake an enGB client in pretendin that its deDE? |
| 23:38.22 | Aii | back in a few |
| 23:41.12 | Neo|Home | so oRA2 'loot level' has been broken since May and noone seems to care to fix it |
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| 23:41.17 | Neo|Home | is oRA2 abandoned? |
| 23:41.26 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: probably by tainting the UI and replacing GetLocale() :D |
| 23:41.37 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:41.57 | Gnarfoz | Neo|Home: it's not, and this is the first I've heard of that. but I don't use that feature because it's worthless anyway |
| 23:42.39 | Neo|Home | I've posted about it in the thread and mentioned it here. multiple times |
| 23:42.49 | Neo|Home | a change in May (date I am not sure of) changed it so it doesn't work |
| 23:42.55 | Arrowmaster | i bet it has something to do with LoD |
| 23:42.57 | Neo|Home | it's also not worthless |
| 23:43.00 | Neo|Home | yes it does |
| 23:43.14 | Arrowmaster | and that feature is better off broken than the state it was in |
| 23:43.15 | Neo|Home | someone says you can fix it by manually enabling oRA2, then disabling it and then inviting |
| 23:43.26 | Neo|Home | I never had a problem with it |
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| 23:43.38 | Arrowmaster | having your raidleader get DCd and come back online and make himself the masterlooter again is really annoying |
| 23:43.40 | Neo|Home | so I guess I don't understand the issue. It worked. Then it was "fixed" and doesn't work |
| 23:44.22 | Neo|Home | sure that could be a bit annoying but not even close to as annoying as it not doing anything |
| 23:44.38 | Neo|Home | of course I'm typically the master looter and raid leader |
| 23:45.06 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: uhm, that happens with the default UI, too. or "while the ora feature is 'broken'" because that's happened to us as recently as last ID |
| 23:45.36 | Primer | ugh, so now my mount macro doesn't work |
| 23:45.37 | Arrowmaster | ive never seen the default ui do that |
| 23:45.51 | Primer | /use Summon Dreadsteed <-- used to work |
| 23:46.02 | Arrowmaster | are you on beta? |
| 23:46.06 | Primer | (the macro is more complicated than that...I just paraphrased) |
| 23:46.07 | Primer | yes |
| 23:46.19 | Arrowmaster | CallCompainion |
| 23:46.41 | Primer | instead of /use ? |
| 23:46.58 | Aiiane | mounts are companions now? |
| 23:47.00 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.04 | Aiiane | that sounds more like pets >.> |
| 23:47.40 | Arrowmaster | its mounts and pets |
| 23:47.48 | Gnarfoz | or get BlazingSaddles from WoWI to get a /mount macro handler |
| 23:48.26 | Primer | anyone have a verbatim example? |
| 23:48.38 | Primer | this is my mountup macro, which detects if I'm in a flying zone |
| 23:48.45 | Xinhuan | The combat log now differentiates between a spell failure due to resistance and spell failure due to missing the target. Where once both events reported as a resist; a spell missing the target is now reported as a miss. |
| 23:48.50 | Xinhuan | whoa nice |
| 23:48.51 | Primer | and summons the appropriate mount |
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| 23:49.36 | Xinhuan | "Shift-clicking to loot mail: You can now hold Shift and click on mail in your inbox to automatically loot any items and gold without opening the mail. This default behavior can be changed via Auto Loot Mail in the Interface Options (Controls)." rofl postal copycat ~_~ |
| 23:50.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but at least it's instantaneous now ;) |
| 23:50.09 | Primer | /use [flyable,nomounted] Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake; [noflyable,nomounted] Summon Dreadsteed |
| 23:50.12 | Primer | is what I mean |
| 23:50.45 | Gnarfoz | with BlazingSaddles, you'd just replace /use with /mount ;) |
| 23:50.45 | Primer | ahh found a forum post |
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| 23:51.19 | Gnarfoz | (and enter the "correct" names of the mounts, because for some, internal names that differ from the item name are used. they're displayed in the companion UI) |
| 23:53.00 | Ackis | mounts Gnarfoz |
| 23:53.18 | Gnarfoz | on what? |
| 23:53.20 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 23:53.40 | Ackis | :P |
| 23:53.54 | Primer | Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake is still in my bag |
| 23:54.33 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 23:54.49 | Gnarfoz | question is: does it show up in your mount list in the companion UI |
| 23:56.23 | Primer | nope |
| 23:56.29 | Primer | only fel and dread show up there |
| 23:57.01 | Aiiane | what happens if you manually use the reins |
| 23:57.06 | Primer | btw, anyone else notice that the zone text on Lich King is PVE color? |
| 23:57.11 | Primer | heh, I'm in IF at the moment |
| 23:57.17 | Primer | guess I'll hearth |
| 23:57.23 | Gnarfoz | Primer: what for |
| 23:57.28 | Gnarfoz | just use the item. |
| 23:57.34 | Gnarfoz | read what it DOES beforehand. |
| 23:57.37 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 23:57.39 | Aiiane | ^ |
| 23:58.10 | Aiiane | or better yet, read the beta patch notes before logging on to beta :P |
| 23:59.14 | Primer | duh |
| 23:59.18 | Primer | Gnarfoz: hehe thanks :) |
| 23:59.51 | Primer | liking this much better |
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