IRC log for #wowace on 20080803

00:01.25fewyni hope the new curse client will have an option to ignore translation updates >_> i swear almost every update the last few weeks was ru updates
00:01.36Aiianelol
00:01.44Aiianewell ideally
00:01.53Dark_Elflol
00:01.57Aiianeif the translation interface were worked into the curseforge software
00:02.04fewyni'm like ooooo! updates! maybe something was fixed/added!
00:02.06Aiianeit'd be neat to be able to automatically build locale-only packages
00:02.16fewynand then i'm disappointed when it's just a translation update
00:02.19Aiianei.e. have the option to download a package with only enUS
00:02.27Aiianeand then that package wouldn't change for translation updates
00:03.54Dark_Elfat least the ace2 update wasnt a translation :p lol
00:05.07Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_080208_170341.jpg
00:07.14dieckI'm searching for a function to get the server side time as epoch, or at least with seconds.
00:07.17dieckGetGameTime() just returns hour and minutes, and I think all of GetTime(), time() and date() just return the local system time of your computer?
00:07.20dieckI'm planning on adding a sync option to an addon, and having a exact server side time would leave less clock based sync problems.
00:07.35Rabbitbunnyget the server offset.
00:08.33[Endeavour]Aiiane, i translated the first few chapters of /Ace3/Getting_Started/ and saved them as /Ace3/Getting_Started/deDE
00:08.40[Endeavour]Will do the rest tomorrow
00:10.21dieckRabbitbunny: hm, and how? :)
00:10.58ChompersAntiarc@
00:11.12Chompersi see you're checking out the threat stuff, good to see
00:11.33Arrowmasterdieck: http://www.wowwiki.com/GameTime:Get
00:12.56dieckhm. looks weird, to get the seconds by comparing the time before and after, thus finding the second 0, and counting up?
00:13.11Arrowmasteryeah it dirty
00:13.26Arrowmasterbut its probably one of the more precise methods
00:13.31dieckso i take it blizzard does not give out "their" seconds :)
00:13.37Arrowmasterthey dont
00:14.31dieckis that GameTime:Get bad for cpu/gfx performance? or do I just don't notice it?
00:14.50Arrowmasternot really
00:15.01Arrowmasterit will do extra work in the first minute after login
00:15.06Arrowmasterbut then it will stop
00:15.17dieckok
00:15.50Arrowmasteryoull probably want to tie it in with your sync code so it doesnt do any syncing until it find the offset
00:15.52Ackislua> return math.absolute(-1)
00:15.52lua_botAckis: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'absolute' (a nil value)
00:15.57Ackislua> return math.abv(-1)
00:15.57lua_botAckis: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'abv' (a nil value)
00:15.59Ackismeh
00:16.24Arrowmasterlua> math.abs(-1)
00:16.24lua_botArrowmaster: 1
00:16.28dieckso I just copy (and edit) the text from wowwiki? or is there any "built-in" for ace2 or something? looks dumb to insert it into every addon that should have the server side time
00:16.41Arrowmastercopy paste
00:16.51Arrowmasteri really dont know of many addons that use it
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00:18.59Rabbitbunnywith ADDON_LOADED, I tried if arg1 == self, But that doesn't hit true. without the if it comesback true for _everything_ what am I supposed to be testing for?
00:19.17Arrowmasterarg1 is a string
00:19.34RabbitbunnyOh.
00:19.35Arrowmasterits the name of the addon folder
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00:19.50Rabbitbunnytostring(self) then...
00:20.10Pkekyo|wtf, why are people going to bed now!?
00:20.14Pkekyo|only 2.22 am
00:20.16Arrowmasterthat probably wont work very well
00:20.25ArrowmasterPkekyo|: i just woke up!
00:20.38Rabbitbunnywhat do you mean?
00:20.49Arrowmasterwhats self?
00:20.58RabbitbunnyFuBar_FarmFu
00:21.07Arrowmasterhow did you create it?
00:21.29ArrowmasterAceAddon?
00:21.33LanerraI just don't get this...
00:22.09RabbitbunnyIt could be ace... hitting self:func() works
00:22.15Lanerra"LanMail\LanMail.lua:27:AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "SpecialEvents_MailInit" to method "Update", it does not exist
00:22.48LanerraAs soon as I fix one thing, something else breaks :(
00:22.56LanerraAny idea what that's about, anyone? Please?
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00:23.15Arrowmasteryou dont have a method called Update
00:24.48LanerraThanks...I'll try to figure this damned thing out
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00:26.34Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: what's with sleeping the entire evening?
00:26.51Arrowmasteri went to bed at like 10am.....
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00:32.03Pkekyo|I went to bed at 3pm...and slept to 3.30pm...all the sleep I've had the last...30-ish hours x)
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00:32.43RabbitbunnyArrowmaster: Oh. I see what you meant. self is FarmFu... arg1 needs to be FuBar_FarmFu.
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00:47.51CIA-4503StingerSoft * r79696 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/ (8 files): LittleWigs: added ruRU localization
00:50.59Pkekyo|so...is WotLK out yet?
00:51.31RabbitbunnyNo.
00:51.36Pkekyo|shame
00:51.48Pkekyo|wasn't it due last year or something?
00:52.42Arrowmasterno
00:53.14Pkekyo|good thing I'm paying attention then :p
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00:56.55RabbitbunnyOkay, I'm doing something wrong here. I had ADDON_LOADED set my default and echo a string, the defaults are set, the string is not coming out. does that event fire before I can echo things?
00:57.07CIA-4503ackis * r79697 10CNF/ (8 files): CNF: Initial Import
00:58.10[Endeavour]try using PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD addon loaded does not actually mean player has already logged in, just means it is loaded (correct me if i'm wrong)
00:58.58StanzillaChuck Norris Facts
00:59.02Stanzillalol Ackis
01:00.31Ackis:O
01:00.40Ackisshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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01:01.26nymbia[Endeavour]: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_P_(Party,_Petition,_Pet,_PlayerBank,_Player)
01:02.01nymbia[Endeavour]: basically, changing zones
01:02.43Stanzillathrows a paper with ace3 quartz at nymbia
01:02.49Ackisfails
01:02.57nymbiamm.. how's ace3 these days
01:03.58Stanzillain trunk :P
01:04.09Ackisit brings all the boys to the yard
01:04.10CIA-4503ackis * r79698 10CNF/libs/:
01:04.10CIA-45CNF:
01:04.10CIA-45- Setup externals maybe?
01:04.23nymbianice
01:07.16CIA-4503ackis * r79699 10CNF/ (. libs/):
01:07.16CIA-45CNF:
01:07.16CIA-45- Really set up externals!:D
01:07.16CIA-45~lart nymbia
01:07.16purlhits nymbia with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha
01:08.11Rabbitbunny[Endeavour]: Sweet. Thanks.
01:08.38nymbiaAckis: harsh
01:08.52Ackis~love nymbia
01:08.52purlIf you love nymbia so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
01:08.59[Endeavour]worked? hm, but nymbia was correct
01:09.15Pkekyo|~whalecrit someone
01:09.15purlACTION crits someone with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. someone dies
01:09.16[Endeavour]haha why don't you marry IT
01:09.30Pkekyo|engages in an evil, manical laugh
01:10.35nymbiaRabbitbunny: that event happens a lot more than just at load, so be careful.  you might want VARIABLES_LOADED
01:12.02RabbitbunnySo... Many.. Options...
01:12.11[Endeavour]yeah, that's the one
01:15.07[Endeavour]Rabbitbunny: don't know what you want to code, but have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) and pick the one which fits your needs, they are sorted by category.
01:16.43AckisI am so going to hell for CNF
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01:25.12fewynyes you are Ackis
01:27.08Pkekyo|not as much as fewyn is for touching your kid sister in her nono-spot though, Ackis
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01:30.08Ackishah
01:30.09Ackis:D
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01:32.31KemayoIt's sad.  I cancelled my WoW account over a month ago, and I still miss logging in and fiddling with addons, but I don't really miss playing the game itself. :P
01:33.26AckisKemayo: I feel your pain
01:34.28KemayoI'm sure I'll buy the expansion and reactivate for a bit, though. :D
01:35.23Ackiswrath looks hella fun
01:35.48AtriaceI'm receiving a rather ambiguous error with no reference to a line-number (see http://spartanui.com/download/error.jpg).  Is this symptomatic of a common issue?
01:35.50fewynwrath looks more than fun
01:36.00KemayoI'm the sort of person who gets all gooey over things like achievments.
01:36.28fewynachievements was one of the things that got me to buy a xbox 360
01:37.32CIA-45spew: 03Tekkub 07master * rbf8537e 10/ Spew.lua : Increase indents a bit
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01:43.59CIA-4503pettigrow * r79700 10BigWigs/Sunwell/KilJaeden.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/KilJaeden: frFR Update
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01:54.59Pkekyo|people on steroids are fun :)
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02:40.40CIA-4503kemayo * r79701 10BankStackFu/ (. BankStackFu.toc embeds.xml fu.lua): BankStackFu: Separate into its own addon, so I don't have to do all that messy optdepping in the core.
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02:52.30CIA-4503kemayo * r79702 10BankStackFu/ (. BankStackFu.toc embeds.xml): BankStackFu: embeds, etc.
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02:58.54CIA-4503kemayo 07dev * r79703 10BankStack/ (BankStack.toc core.lua embeds.xml fu.lua): BankStack: Mostly stuff that's been sitting uncommitted for months. Some changes to the default keybinds, and the removal of the fubar plugin.
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03:01.28CIA-4503kemayo * r79704 10BankStack/ (7 files): BankStack: Merge dev branch into trunk
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03:13.49Pkekyo|did BSG s4 air yet?
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03:44.51CIA-4503kemayo 07lq2 * r79705 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Details/Details.lua QuestsFu.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: Fix up module stuff on the branch
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04:03.12CIA-4503gnarfoz 07WotLK * r79706 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 (WotLK): update slash handlers again for builds 8681 and later.
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04:17.10CIA-4503parnic * r79707 10IceHUD/libs/:
04:17.10CIA-45IceHUD:
04:17.10CIA-45- updated the Ace2 libs to pull from the WotLK branch since those seem to work in the latest beta build while the trunk releases don't
04:17.32hi2uHALPPPPPPPP
04:22.42sylvanaarTekkub is spew just a scrolling message frame?
04:22.44Brunersspellhit cap is 205?
04:23.09Tekkubit's mesage frame is, yes
04:23.46sylvanaarcan i use it as a log frame?
04:24.08sylvanaari was about to write one for debugging prat - but if yours works...
04:24.42Tekkubdebugging? I'd just suggest you use tekDebug as that's exactly what it's designed for
04:25.11Tekkubhttp://github.com/tekkub/tekdebug/tree/master/tekDebug.lua
04:25.23TekkubI need to move that big comment block out into a readme
04:28.35sylvanaarTekkub cool, thx
04:31.53sylvanaarah, ok - thats the actioneer frame - i made a debug tool with it at one point, good stuff
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04:32.26Mytosdid aloft get abandoned, or just hasnt been updated recently?
04:34.14sylvanaar~seen Roartington
04:34.17purli haven't seen 'roartington', sylvanaar
04:34.37sylvanaar~seen Roartinton
04:34.37purli haven't seen 'roartinton', sylvanaar
04:34.57Hjalte~seen roartindon
04:34.58purlroartindon <n=jtlim@cm32.delta200.maxonline.com.sg> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 153d 19h 9s ago, saying: 'Because it receives one parameter sometimes, two parameters at others'.
04:35.13sylvanaargpd damn its hard to type it
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04:35.27Hjalte:)
04:35.56sylvanaar153 days = no longer maintained
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04:48.18Pkekyo|now stop touching yourselves and answer me this
04:48.22Pkekyo|when's WotLK launching? :P
04:50.39Arrowmasterend of year
04:51.10Pkekyo|seriously?
04:51.15Pkekyo|bah, was hoping to see BT by then
04:54.41ulicsomebody from blizzard says 4th qtr 08
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04:56.14Pkekyo|fuck me sideways
04:56.16Pkekyo|it's sunday?!
04:56.23_rane"According to Mike Morhaime (Blizzard  Entertainment's CEO), Wrath of the Lich King will be released between  October and December 2008."
04:56.30Pkekyo|I've lost 2-3 days somewhere along the road then :/
04:56.50Ackisfucks Pkekyo| sideways
04:57.06Pkekyo|squeels like a sargeras in heat
04:57.16Pkekyo|wait....what?
04:57.23Ackislol
04:58.28aestilwell, my guild now has 2 raid teams that have killed illidian.
04:59.49Arrowmasteri have so many damn tabs still open in firefox that the list view scrolls......
05:00.14Pkekyo|aestil, screw you >.<
05:06.55CIA-4503ackis * r79708 10CNF/ (CNF.toc DownloadCount.lua):
05:06.55CIA-45CNF:
05:06.55CIA-45- Update downloadcount and release sites.
05:12.18CIA-4503nymbia 07Ace3 * r79709 10Quartz/:
05:12.18CIA-45Quartz:
05:12.18CIA-45- Explode this branch, let's start from scratch...
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05:13.35CIA-4503nymbia 07Ace3 * r79710 10Quartz/:
05:13.35CIA-45Quartz:
05:13.35CIA-45- Branch again
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05:15.16raegxanyone know of a mob that puts up a stacking debuff on players. trying to test a mod out
05:15.25raegxpreferably one a lvl 70 priest can just tank
05:17.02ShefkiI usually just use lifebloom and change the code to treat the buff as a debuff
05:17.13raegxsigh no druid
05:17.26raegxmaybe i can find one
05:17.48nymbiatheres some bleeds from little mobs that stack i think..
05:17.58nymbiabut i cant think of specifics off the top of my head :(
05:18.28ShefkiI'm sure there is I can't think of one off hand.
05:18.47raegxyea oh well i'll find a druid sometime
05:18.53raegxthats a good suggestion
05:19.34nymbiaor get someone to shove a stack of something on you in a duel
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05:27.49CIA-4503nymbia * r79711 10/tags/ForkliftGnome/:
05:27.49CIA-45ForkliftGnome:
05:27.49CIA-45- tag dir
05:28.08CIA-4503nymbia 071.0 * r79712 10ForkliftGnome/:
05:28.08CIA-45ForkliftGnome:
05:28.08CIA-45- tag
05:28.55CIA-4503nymbia * r79713 10ForkliftGnome/:
05:28.55CIA-45ForkliftGnome:
05:28.55CIA-45- remove from trunk, use AddonLoader
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05:30.37CIA-4503parnic * r79714 10IceHUD/modules/ (PlayerMana.lua Runes.lua TargetMana.lua): (log message trimmed)
05:30.37CIA-45IceHUD:
05:30.37CIA-45- added a workaround for DK runic power (and probably all power types) not
05:30.37CIA-45updating after the new "predicted power" stuff that was added in the beta.
05:30.37CIA-45specifically, UNIT_RUNIC_POWER doesn't fire any more with the predicted power
05:30.38CIA-45system since it's supposed to build up slowly. this caused the runic power bar
05:30.42CIA-45to never get updated as it degenerated. copied the "working" version from
05:30.53CIA-4503nymbia * r79715 10/tags/Tattle/:
05:30.53CIA-45Tattle:
05:30.53CIA-45- tag dir
05:31.25CIA-4503parnic * r79716 10IceHUD/modules/Runes.lua:
05:31.25CIA-45IceHUD:
05:31.25CIA-45- err, removed a debug message from Runes module. couldn't hit cancel fast enough...
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05:32.09CIA-4503nymbia 071.0 * r79717 10Tattle/:
05:32.09CIA-45Tattle:
05:32.10CIA-45- tag
05:32.41CIA-4503nymbia * r79718 10Tattle/:
05:32.41CIA-45Tattle:
05:32.42CIA-45- remove from trunk. unmaintained.
05:36.04nymbialets see... what else to nuke
05:36.38nymbiacombatannounce would need a total rewrite... does anyone actually use it?
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05:42.11AtriaceJust out of curiosity, why not keep a separate channel for svn commits on WoWAce?
05:42.28nymbiabe too boring otherwise
05:42.35Atriacelol
05:42.42nymbiaand it's important to be able to keep up a conversation in commit notes.
05:42.59AtriaceSomehow I'm not pursuaded.
05:43.28nymbiaobserve
05:43.50Pkekyo|anyone know what day it is?
05:44.02Silviu-Sunday
05:44.02Atriaceunder what timezone?
05:44.10Pkekyo|thanks Silviu-
05:44.19Pkekyo|GMT +1 (not including DST)
05:44.45Atriaceoh snap... it is sunday.  I should be in bed.
05:45.08Pkekyo|it's allready 7.47am here, so I can't be arsed :p
05:45.16Pkekyo|I think I've lost wednesday and thursday though :/
05:45.31AtriaceAh... misplacing days is a pain.
05:45.46Pkekyo|I didn't misplace them
05:45.56Pkekyo|I don't think they took place at all :P
05:46.02CIA-4503nymbia 07Ace3 * r79719 10Quartz/libs/:
05:46.02CIA-45Quartz:
05:46.02CIA-45- Modify externals
05:46.02CIA-45~smite Atriace
05:46.03purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves Atriace from crown to sole.
05:46.21AtriaceOh yay!  Purl exists here too.
05:46.30Pkekyo|lolwut
05:46.40Atriacenymbia:  it's still not a persuading argument.
05:46.40Pkekyo|purl has been here...forever
05:47.11nymbiaAtriace: then let's stick with the 'too boring' one
05:47.43AtriaceWoWUIDev does well enough and they distinguish the channels.
05:47.44Pkekyo|huh...this is weir
05:47.44Pkekyo|d
05:47.58Pkekyo|I don't play WoW when bored anymore
05:48.03AtriaceFurthermore, this channel has over 50 more members logged in.
05:48.27Pkekyo|Atriace: ...and?
05:48.54AtriaceSurely 228 people can keep themselves amused without having to read which lines of code someone updated on their AddOns.  I'm just saying, it clutters the chatter.
05:49.22nymbiaooh that's a good idea, a full unified diff of every commit
05:49.23nymbia;)
05:49.35Wobinwe could point and laugh
05:49.40Atriacehehe
05:49.58Pkekyo|Atriace: it's actually rather amusing
05:50.15AtriaceSuit yourself.  Just my two cents.
05:50.34Pkekyo|it's fun to point it out when people screw up :)
05:51.23nymbiai honestly wouldnt pay attention to a seperate channel
05:51.39Pkekyo|and it's even more fun to yell at them when they spam with commit messages :D
05:51.44Pkekyo|I'm with nymbia
05:51.55Wobinditto
05:51.58Pkekyo|...and I'm just here for shits and giggles, I gave up addons a long time ago
05:52.06Wobina seperate channel would not even be looked at
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05:52.16Pkekyo|there'd be like three people in there
05:52.20Wobincause who wants to see endless commits?
05:52.26Pkekyo|[Ammo], ckknight and Atriace :p
05:52.28Wobinat least here, it's interspersed with talking
05:52.50erikheh, you could just put cia on ignore if it bothers you that much :)
05:53.00Pkekyo|my client doesn't allow that x)
05:53.13Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
05:54.22theoddone33it's kind of a crappy feeling knowing you still need 80k honor to finish out your gear
05:54.23AtriaceWell, let's be honest: CIA bot has a very specific purpose and it is not without usefullness.  By being logged into WoWUIDev-commits I can be notified whenever a team-member updates the code and team-members visa-versa.
05:54.47CIA-4503nymbia 07Ace3 * r79720 10Quartz/ (Quartz.toc embeds.xml):
05:54.47CIA-45Quartz:
05:54.47CIA-45- Load all the right libraries, maybe even in the right order
05:54.54AtriaceYou wouldn't want to outright ignore CIA.
05:54.56Pkekyo|Atriace: whilst running the risk of repeating myself;          ...and? :p
05:55.02Pkekyo|ooh
05:55.29AtriaceAnd... I don't think you're the one I need to convince here.  :D
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05:56.01Pkekyo|not really...like I said, I quit the addon buisness a long time ago and just hang 'round here for shits and giggles
05:56.25nymbiadidn't pay the bills well enough?
05:56.35Pkekyo|I can't pay the bills now either x)
05:57.13Pkekyo|I got stuck with some webdesign assignment at school that took up all of my time, never got back into it after that...
05:57.28Pkekyo|watching the That '70s Show pilot episode...weirdass shit
05:57.37nymbiawell, clearly... if you can't make a living as an addon author, you can't make a living anywhere
05:57.38nymbiawait...
05:58.02erikhAtriace: ... it could be in both channels
05:58.08erikhand the people in that channel can ignore it here
05:58.13Pkekyo|nymbia: I've got a part time job as a bouncer, applied to a fuckload of others, but no luck yet
05:58.35nymbiaharsh
05:58.49Pkekyo|meh, only been hunting for a few weeks yet
05:59.00erikhdon't envy that.. bouncing is not a very fun job so i'm told
05:59.06Atriaceerikh... I think you're right.  Both CIA-45 and CIA-21 seem to be reporting the same commits.
05:59.29Atriaceha!
05:59.31erikhwell, most decent irc client have a way to ignore someone in a specific channel anyways
05:59.34Atriace~lart CIA-45
05:59.34purlfarts in CIA-45's general direction
05:59.56Pkekyo|erikh: last shift I had I set a new record...my life was threatened (by legal definition) three times in about five minutes :P
06:00.02erikhyeah, heh
06:00.06erikhi'll bet
06:00.10erikhi don't envy you guys
06:00.29Pkekyo|and I can't afford to get any bloody kevlar...considering quitting :P
06:00.33erikhi just have to walk to the other side of the bar to escape the assholes
06:00.38erikhyou have to actually make sure they disappear
06:01.09Pkekyo|aye
06:01.19erikheh, do bouncers really have reason to take the threat of death seriously?
06:01.52Pkekyo|depends on who's making the threat
06:01.52erikhi'm not saying it wouldn't scare the shit out of me, but most threats are hot air
06:02.10erikhwhen I was young I worked graveyard at a downtown mini mart
06:02.13nymbiaespecially when coming from drunk people
06:02.17erikhgot a lot of shit like that
06:02.31erikhespecially when the beer faucet was turned off
06:02.44Pkekyo|it's a small and relatively calm town, but there's certain people 'round here who just might follow up on threats like that
06:02.50erikhah, i see.
06:03.15erikhyeah, the one thing I could count on is that most of them were too lazy or chicken to back those threats up
06:03.24erikhso standing up to them was effective
06:03.25Pkekyo|yeah, in that case they were
06:03.56erikhthe lazy ones just go somewhere else
06:04.03Pkekyo|could've legally filed charges though
06:04.12Pkekyo|should've taken their license plate number...
06:04.28erikhin a smaller area though, i imagine it'd be harder for them to let it go if they can't get into the only bar in town
06:05.58Pkekyo|there's a fuckload of bars etc here...norwegian drinking culture is...eh...elaborate, in lack of better words :p
06:07.03Pkekyo|there's 24k people living here (all ages), and the main streat, about 2-2.5kms long is adjacent (spelling?) to...nine bars/pubs and whatnot
06:08.21Pkekyo|and they're all packed every damn night....then there's a fuckload of people just loitering 'round town 'cause they're not old enough to get into bars etc
06:10.18Pkekyo|oooooh, shiny... Sordin Supreme Pros! I WANT SOME
06:11.18Pkekyo|someone please buy me some sordins? :<
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06:11.58Adirellemorning
06:12.08Pkekyo|or buy me some peltor comtacs atleast?
06:12.16Pkekyo|no, screw that, buy me some Sordins please :p
06:12.29Pkekyo|hai Adirelle...will you buy me some Sordins?
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06:14.38aestilPkekyo|: thats pretty harsh.
06:14.43Pkekyo|aestil: what?
06:14.51aestilway does chatter not update player levels names?
06:14.56aestilyou said screw you.
06:15.01Pkekyo|when?
06:15.20Pkekyo|Black Hawk Down
06:15.21Pkekyo|Dogma
06:15.21Pkekyo|Equilibrium
06:15.21Pkekyo|Fight Club
06:15.21Pkekyo|Frihetens Regn
06:15.21Pkekyo|Gone In 60 Secounds
06:15.23Pkekyo|Half Baked
06:15.25Pkekyo|Haven
06:15.27Pkekyo|How High
06:15.29Pkekyo|Kopps
06:15.31Pkekyo|Lord Of War
06:15.31aestil22:01
06:15.33Pkekyo|National Security
06:15.35Pkekyo|Saints And Soldiers
06:15.37Pkekyo|Saving Private Ryan
06:15.39Pkekyo|:/ someone bought movies for me
06:15.50Pkekyo|aestil: haven't slept for....ages...how should I remember that? :p
06:17.13Pkekyo|lmao, did I really spam out tha tlist of movies like that?
06:17.13Pkekyo|I should really get some sleep
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06:18.16aestilanyone know why chatter doesn't update when people level?
06:18.20aestilAntiarc: ?
06:18.44Pkekyo|no bloody idea whatsoever...think he said the same earlier tonight
06:20.11Gnarfozaestil: because... it doesn't know?
06:20.28Gnarfozaestil: just /who (or shift-click) them again and it should pick it up
06:21.16erikhso, i'm outside
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06:21.23erikhand i've got a cig in my mouth
06:21.26erikhand i'm trying to light it
06:21.38erikhand the lighter shoots something out of the pressure valve
06:21.43nymbiaGnarfoz: that's not good enough, it needs to be polling everyone every 3 seconds
06:21.50erikhalong with a good 1/4 of the gas in the lighter
06:21.52Pkekyo|eh...lighter fuel, erikh?
06:21.55erikhand the flint lights
06:21.59erikhand now i have no nose hair
06:22.11Pkekyo|rofl
06:22.15Gnarfoznymbia: and check if you're fighting the Twin Emperors while in Nagrand, too. In an OnUpdate loop.
06:22.20Pkekyo|interesting way of clearing up your nose
06:22.34erikhsomething (i'm assuming in my pocket) clogged the valve
06:22.48erikhand when it flew out it created more pressure than usual
06:22.58erikhor rather, released more
06:23.06erikhanyways, i am nose hair free in my left nostril now
06:23.10p3limanyone here considered going to the next blizzcon?
06:23.26Pkekyo|erikh: go do the right one as well then :p
06:23.36erikhheh, no kidding
06:23.39erikhfeels weird.
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06:24.02aestilGnarfoz: I am doing that, it is not picking it up.
06:24.15nymbiaGnarfoz: exactly.
06:24.24nymbiaGnarfoz: ah, good times...
06:24.47nymbiamakes me want to dig up some old curse comment pages
06:25.15p3limim keen on comping someone to go to blizzcon
06:25.25p3lim(the entrance ticket that is)
06:25.35p3limunder some conditions ofcourse
06:27.33CIA-4503nymbia 07Ace3 * r79721 10Quartz/locale/ (6 files):
06:27.33CIA-45Quartz:
06:27.33CIA-45- Update localizations to AceLocale-3.0.
06:30.46CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r79722 10Prat/modules/ (13 files):
06:30.46CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
06:30.46CIA-45Checkpoint. I'm tired. It still has some errors loading the modules I just
06:30.46CIA-45added. However, the core of the system is stable.
06:32.08sylvanaarnymbia check out the file Prat/addon/locales.lua - i liked that method better.
06:32.36Zhinjiogood evening.
06:32.39sylvanaarfewer files
06:33.03sylvanaarthat'd be good morning
06:33.13sylvanaarand good morning to you
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06:35.50nymbiasylvanaar: hrm
06:36.09sylvanaarfor localizations
06:36.49nymbiayeah that might be a better approach
06:37.33sylvanaari dont want 1000 files, or to have to load the strings for every module
06:37.43sylvanaarthat was my biggest gripe
06:38.23sylvanaarbut - whatever works for you - just thought id point it out since I just got that part of prat3 sorted out
06:39.33sylvanaarnice to see you again btw
06:39.37nymbiayeah, that's a good point
06:39.39nymbiathanks :)
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06:49.48Matrix110|woot
06:49.51Matrix110|nymbia is back
06:50.00nymbiawhere?
06:50.05raegxis there anyway to tell if a specific raid icon has already been assigned to a player
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06:50.09raegxor mob
06:50.17Matrix110|everybody crawling back to WoW :d
06:50.23Diaoomg
06:50.25Diaoit's nymbia
06:50.51nymbialies!
06:51.02Matrix110|wb :D
06:51.14nymbia;)
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06:58.48HjalteFunkeh`: A friend of mine is trying out SBC and some broker addons. He would like the text of Broker_Durability to change according to how badly his gear is damaged. Will that eventually become possible and is it controlled by the addon or the display addon?
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07:02.05sylvanaarin mvc its up to the view
07:03.25erikhmmm mvc
07:03.43raegxis there anyway to tell if a specific raid icon has already been assigned
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07:04.05erikhthe birthplace of pretty much every enterprise pattern in existence
07:04.07sylvanaartarget the person with that icon?
07:04.14Diaoo:
07:04.35Diaohi2u Groktar :p
07:04.43raegxnegative, i want to mark ppl w/ icons but i do not want to use any icons that maybe already be applied to say, mobs
07:04.53Diaoi don't think there is a function to check
07:05.06raegxnot that i've found, but possibly a series of events?
07:05.13sylvanaaryou either need to track them as you assign them
07:05.22sylvanaaror monitor targets
07:05.52raegxmonitoring is fine...the only event i found was RAID_TARGET_UPDATE, but that doesn't tell you which icon or even who was given it
07:06.04sylvanaarno, there arent any events
07:06.18raegxuh
07:06.37ShefkiThere's no good way to keep track.
07:06.53sylvanaaryou need to track the icons as yo hand them out
07:07.10raegxyea that isn't a problem
07:07.26sylvanaarthere was a good addon for raid icons, what was it
07:07.41raegxim more worried about using icons that players maybe have assigned
07:08.12raegxon entering combat, gather a set of icons in use, use only icons that haven't been
07:08.29raegxbut if that is not possible i can just use them all
07:08.29sylvanaaryeah, i dont think so
07:08.37raegxor make it configurable
07:09.14sylvanaargo find that raid icon addon here on wowace - that could automate some of that stuff
07:13.16sylvanaarmagicmarker
07:13.25sylvanaarthat was what i was thinking of
07:14.20raegxyea i read about that
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07:14.49mpopany one here willing to help a noob with a hello world addon?
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07:20.19Xuerianlocal f = CreateFrame("Frame") f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN") f:SetScript("OnEvent", function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Hello world!") end) or something like that
07:20.25Xuerianor do you actually want to do something
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07:20.58mpopwell right now I am tring to add a slash command, I have that, but how do I print a message to a chat channel (I probably will join some random one)
07:21.09mpopjust what is the function call to print to a chat channel
07:22.00mpopand the arguments
07:22.54Xuerianmpop: SendChatMessage(...), look it up on wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API
07:23.32mpopthanks Xuerian
07:24.20uzerare there any other wow addon related channels on freenode?
07:26.18Xuerian#wowuidev
07:28.50Arrowmastererikh: youve got a dump of the svn right?
07:28.58erikhi might
07:29.08erikhwhy?
07:29.18Arrowmasterstill got that link? ckk has gone mia since he left work friday night
07:29.25erikhi was told not to give it to anyone
07:29.29erikhyou'll have to ask him yourself, sorry
07:30.05erikhand for good reason, bandwidth was bottoming out while I was downloading it periodically
07:30.13erikhnot throttling
07:30.18erikhand it wasn't my connection
07:30.39CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r79723 10Prat/ (addon/addon.lua services/links.lua):
07:30.39CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev):
07:30.40CIA-45Fixed the hyperlink generator to handle spaces, move the setitemref hook
07:30.40CIA-45itself into the into the links service.
07:31.11sylvanaarif you have ace2 or rock "/print /dump
07:31.16sylvanaaror devtools /dump
07:34.07Adirelleer... how do you force a refresh of a FontString when you change only its size or its flags ?
07:34.19mpopare there parsers and simulators out there to test addons? instead of having to log into wow to test them?
07:34.53sylvanaarsort of, but not really
07:35.06Arrowmasterno
07:35.18Arrowmasteryou can check for syntax errors
07:35.42AtriaceAdirelle:  force?  it should respond instantly.  Did you try obj:SetText?
07:35.48sylvanaarthere is wowbench - but its somewhat out of date, and still hard to use
07:36.22AdirelleAtriace: not yet, actually I do something like label:SetFond(oldFontName, newFontSize, newFontFlags) and it doesn't seems to change anything
07:36.39Adirellewell, in fact, SetFont returns nil (=unchanged)
07:37.22AtriaceI think you mean obj:SetFontObject(fontRef)
07:38.18Adirelleno, no, I really mean :SetFont()
07:39.01Adirellelike in all addons that allow you to customize the text style
07:40.22AdirelleI guess I'll dig in all my addons to see how it is done in other ones
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07:43.33Adirelleok, so that's really weird... It looks like Antiarc did the right thing, it is just that it doesn't work...
07:43.46Adirelleunless they are "invalid" font size ? or flags  ?
07:45.19mpoplol I am a noob, I am working from some examples, and for help I cut-n-pasted a function but forgot to change the base name what a stupid mistake.
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07:50.13NeoTrondoes anyone know of a LDB display addon that just shows icons, and organizes them automatically?
07:50.28NeoTronI figured that'd be useful for all those little "launcher" buttons
07:50.34AdirelleAtriace: it seems that SetFont doesn't update anything unless I change de font name itself
07:50.41Adirelles/de/the/
07:51.17AtriaceI seem to remember trying SetFont at one time, but I eventually resorted to SetFontObject and defining my own fonts in XML.
07:51.21AtriaceIt works for me.
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07:57.19NeoTronconsidering the lack of pointers I gathr such a thing doesn't exist
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08:10.47CIA-4503sylvanaar 073.0 * r79724 10Prat/ (addon/addon.lua modules/Fading.lua):
08:10.48CIA-45Prat 3.0 (Dev)
08:10.48CIA-45Enough for today - snapshot...
08:19.30mpopwhy am I getting an error about set, I am not using set? do I have to use set?
08:19.48mpopthis is in the options area
08:21.29Aiianeoptions area of what
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08:22.13mpopthis hello world addon I am tring to get to get going, I call the options from a function "HelloWorld:RegisterChatCommand("/hw",options")
08:22.33mpops/options"/options
08:23.16mpopand options reads as
08:24.35mpoplocal options = { type="group", args = { guild = { type = "text", name = "guid", desc = "To say hi to the guild", func = PrintMessage,},},}
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08:26.34mpopthe error is AceConsole-2.0: args.guild: "set" must be a string or function
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08:32.20Arrowmasterchange "text" to "execute"
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08:34.07mpopthanks, it worked and I got it to work it just spamed its on line message to guild chat
08:37.48ccKepmornin all
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08:49.05AiianeHey mpop
08:49.07mpopThanks to all that helped over night it is appreciated
08:49.11mpophi Aiiane
08:49.38AiianeIf you'd prefer to try out Ace3 instead of Ace2, I've been working on the getting started page for Ace3: http://wowace.com/wiki/Ace3/Getting_Started
08:50.01dieck_hi. is there any way to start a new line in a message() warning? \n does not seem to work
08:50.28mpopFor some one that is new to addons (but has C/C++ knowledge) what would you suggest? Ace2 or Ace3?
08:50.48mpopif you think Ace3 is better I will probably look into that
08:51.07dieck_Aiiane: arg, just now... I rewrote my loot addon to ace2 just yesterday .)
08:51.15Aiianewell, Ace2 is older and thus slightly more documented
08:51.34AiianeAce3 is coded to be more lightweight, but is still finishing up development and thus is less documented
08:51.39AiianeI'm working on changing that, though :)
08:52.44mpopdoes Ace3 have backwards compatibility with Ace2, so if I start with Ace3 but find I need something and run across documentation for Ace2 to do what I need can I use it in Ace3?
08:53.05Aiianenot exactly. a lot of the methods are similar, though
08:53.29Throngyhey speaking of being new to addon development but being a developer... can anyone point me at a good description of how scope works in LUA?
08:54.01AiianeThrongy: http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_Scope
08:54.02nevcairielAiiane: nice work :)
08:54.05Throngyi've been a C/C++/C# developer for 20 years but can't quite get my head around LUA
08:54.11Aiianeoo, nevcairiel
08:54.17Aiianecan you do me a favor
08:54.22Aiianeand look over the AceHook section
08:54.22nevcairielwhats that?
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08:54.35AiianeI think I got it right but I want to doublecheck I didnt futz something
08:54.36Throngynice one, thanks - surprised I missed it there :/
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08:54.48nevcairielAiiane: sure
08:55.15mpopwell Aiiane I will look into Ace3 tomorrow.  I just wanted to get a hello world out there to see if I could do it.  I have an idea of my next addon still will be very simple but it will build a bit more stuff (and might have some usage for me)
08:55.27Aiiane:) mpop
08:57.46ccKepshould've made a level 1 nightelf for playing with addons instead of a gnome warlock
08:58.00Aiiane...
08:58.01ccKeplike every 5mins someone flies by and wants me to sign a guild charter
08:58.14Aiianemake a draenei
08:58.27Aiianethen you're really out of the way :P
08:58.36Throngyhehe
08:58.54RabbitbunnyI just go to Felwood. easy kills, no people, zone changes, FP in Astranaar.
08:59.00nevcairielAiiane: looks fine so far, RawHook could use an example on usage, i'll add one
08:59.22mpopspace squids, ugg those I think don't belong, BE's I can see draenei I can not see
09:01.16Neyayou should've climbed a mountain or something back when it was still "easy", trust me, you get left alone up on those peaks :P
09:01.34AiianeI have a level 1 blood elf named "Addontest"
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09:02.14mpopMy question is, should I be messing around with the addons I am doing on my main, or should I have a alt for that?
09:02.29RabbitbunnyDepends on what the addon does.
09:02.37Aiiane^
09:02.41Aiianepersonally
09:02.51AiianeI use an alt simply because it means I have a character without a bunch of other addons turned on
09:03.03Aiianewhen I'm doing ReloadUI every minute or so to test tweaks
09:03.04ccKepyeah, faster ui loading times =)
09:03.10Aiianeit's helpful if UI load doesnt take 20 seconds :P
09:03.16Neyasame here, and it doesn't crap too many of my settings if I mess up with some of the code.
09:03.29Arrowmasteri just use my main when i have to be ingame
09:03.29mpopdoes reloadui reread the LUA files?
09:03.36Neyayes
09:03.51ccKeplua yes, xml yes, toc no
09:03.53mpopgood so I don't have to do what I was doing tonight and log in and out
09:04.17Aiianeonly have to restart game if you change the TOC
09:04.45RabbitbunnySo uh... How good is that Ace3 tutorial?
09:04.49nevcairielOr add files =P
09:04.54Aiianeyou tell me, Rabbitbunny
09:04.56Neyaa reloadui macro is your friend too, especially when you are to weed out misspellings.
09:05.04mpopFrom the looks of it the TOC seems to be easy enough so I probably will not be changing those often. It is the LUA file I will be doing more debugging of
09:05.18RabbitbunnyI just figured out how to get a left click to echo, Now to make it open the data browser window...
09:05.29Aiianetoc file changes are mostly when you decide you need another library or some such
09:05.48Throngyany tips on testing boss mods? i'm thinking of writing a bigwigs module
09:05.50nevcairielThose 2 together should make a good start for learning --> http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon + http://wowace.com/wiki/Ace3/Getting_Started
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09:06.26raegxmmmmm ok so if i'm using COMBAT_LOG_EVENT to track when an aura is applied to someone, how can i avoid issues where a player might have his combat log filtering out everyone but himself
09:06.53mpopI wish I know Throngy, that is the end project for me, I want to add a timer that will catch the Combat log messages for rebirth and start up timers.  Common Auras do not do that, and I have not found one to do that, so I am starting to learn LUA so maybe some day I can make that add on for bigwigs
09:07.00AiianeCOMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED?
09:07.08Aiiane@raegx
09:07.22raegx@aiiane seriously, that exists = (  ?
09:07.26Aiiane...yes :P
09:07.35raegxgo me being new to this
09:07.37raegxty vm
09:07.47Throngyhehe so much to learn :D
09:08.16Aiianempop: you might just try looking at the commonaura code.
09:08.20Aiianeit's available on svn
09:08.29Throngymy idea is to have a bigwigs module that whispers someone when they are parried by a boss (yes, i'm a tank ;))
09:08.55mpopI need to get svn then and get access to the repository then
09:09.28Aiianeyou can browse the svn without a login
09:09.44charonmpop: isn't that reinventing the wheel? oRA cooldowns already tracks rebirth
09:09.47Aiianehttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/
09:09.47mpopthat is good enough for me
09:09.53charongranted, it needs support from the other client
09:10.18mpopwell my guild does not use oRA or CT_RA, but they use bigwigs, I have the other 2 installed but, they don't so...
09:11.00Arrowmasterjust an fyi
09:11.12mpopso yes I know I am reinventing the wheel, but there are those that don't use that brand of wheel, so I am making a wheel of a brand they use.
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09:11.43Arrowmasterthese are the kinda bigwigs modules we don't really want to see on the svn since they are better off written to not depend on bigwigs at all, but feel free to write them for personal use
09:11.50charonshrugs
09:11.58|Pixel|or just teach'em to use proper tools...
09:12.05mpopwell it will be for guild use only
09:12.31mpopI don't think others would find it useful, if some one wants it I will let them have it, but I don't think it would be popular
09:12.48Aiianewell
09:12.50charonmpop: in that case i'd just try to wire it into oRA or make it stand-alone... it's definitely not bigwigs land, if you can make oRA detect cooldowns off CLEU, that would definitely be an improvement
09:12.53Aiianeif all you're doing is adding rebirth
09:13.10AiianeI'd suggest just writing a patch for BigWigs_CommonAuras
09:13.24Aiianeand suggesting it to the people who maintain that existing module
09:13.34Arrowmasteryeah either of those would work too
09:13.47Arrowmasteri dont think that module is really maintained though
09:14.05mpopthat could work, but I still need to learn the LUA language first, so I can understand the CommonAuras files.  So I will be making a few addons that will never see the light of day for myself
09:14.13Aiianein which case, run it by someone to doublecheck it, and then just add it :P
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09:14.36Arrowmasterwonders where krka went
09:15.15mpopbut I am still a bit away from even considering really doing changes to the CommonAuras files for even myself, when I get there and have some thoughts I will probably post to the wowace forums what I come with first
09:16.40Throngyhmm maybe mine should be standalone too then - the only reason i thought about adding it to bigwigs was because there seem to be other similar bits bolted on and it makes it easy to find out about boss encounters
09:17.31Throngyin fact testing would be much easier if i didn't need a boss encounter to test on ;)
09:18.03Arrowmastertheres really no univeral way in bigwigs for modules to find out if you are incombat with a boss
09:18.41CIA-4503lahow * r79725 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/Data/ (10 files):
09:18.41CIA-45Cartographer_QuestInfo:
09:18.41CIA-45- update quest data
09:19.02Aiianenods
09:19.21Throngyoh ok - there's another good reason :P
09:19.21charonwhy not just have the module cache GUIDs of level "??" mobs when you target something, then grab parries from CLEU and filter for such guids?
09:19.36Throngyyeah sounds like a plan
09:19.57Arrowmasterinfact i think you might be better using the combatlog flags to maybe only trigger on combatlog events where the unit is your own target and then check UnitIsUnit("player", "targettarget") to check that you are tanking that mob
09:20.18Throngyhey stop writing it for me! ;)
09:20.30Arrowmasteri didnt yet
09:20.36Throngylol
09:20.37Arrowmasteronly designed
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09:21.14mpopwell thanks for all the advice, help, and pointers over the course of the night. I am going to go take a nap before I have to be up in 3 hours so I am not a total wreck today.  I look forward to talking with you all again.
09:21.21Throngywell thanks for the tips; i'll have a crack at it later today hopefully
09:21.22Xuerianoh... sweet... ganja.. I love premades
09:21.37XuerianA few of us have racked in 20k honor today
09:21.44Diaopremade av?
09:21.47Throngycheers mpop and thanks for asking all the questions i needed to ask :)
09:21.49Xuerianmmmmh
09:21.50Xuerianm*
09:21.54Diaocause i got 20k honor today just doing av
09:21.54Diaolol
09:21.55charonThrongy: <plug> http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mangler/ if you want to look at a smallish addon that works with CLEU and targeting </plug>
09:22.00Diaosolo that is
09:22.05charon(i really need to find a similar mod done by someone else for such cases)
09:22.12Throngywill do, thanks charon
09:22.30XuerianWell, our battlegroup usually wtf-fails the "charge points, hold, recap towers, no fw defense" strategy
09:22.42XuerianAnd loses to alliances mirror strat.
09:22.55Diaolol
09:23.11Aiianewhich battlegroup Xuerian?
09:23.20XuerianWe've shut about five really, really, really obnoxious people up tonight
09:23.33Xuerianehm
09:23.59RabbitbunnyHmm... I have me an idea. I'm writing an addon that will track changes in value (moeny/bags/inventory) per zone/session. Would there be a downside to enabling comms and having users automatically share data?
09:24.15Arrowmasterprivacy
09:24.17XuerianAiiane: Whirlwind
09:24.45XuerianUS-Horde-Ravenholdt-Whirlwind
09:24.59Rabbitbunnys/enabling/optionally enabling/
09:25.56Ellipsisdepends how much data/how often it's shared/with whom
09:26.11Ellipsisif you're telling their entire guild every time they loot 12c, then it might get a bit spammy
09:26.14v0dKahi all i have a question gives for recount a minimap button ?
09:26.34RabbitbunnyI figure in capitols only.
09:27.13RabbitbunnyNah wait. I don't want anybody knowing my leet farming zones.
09:27.35Rabbitbunnyhas his evil hat on 'Yes, then they will tell me where to farms mwahahaha!'
09:30.23Throngyaye so incoming on, outgoing off :P
09:31.08Rabbitbunnybut then you have the eternal torrent problem... all leechers
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09:49.34orionshockmorning all
09:49.40Aiianemorn :)
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09:50.16orionshockim seriously surprised, i setup ubuntu and got dual monitors working in about an hour and a half
09:50.24orionshockand 90% of the way i like it too :D
09:50.29orionshocknow to get wow working :\
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09:51.33charonwow is fairly easy with wine these days
09:51.46harldephinlol
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09:57.15orionshockim trying
09:58.30orionshockany news on the wowi keys?
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09:59.23ccKepInbox (0) - unfortunately
09:59.25Xuerianorionshock: I wish dual different-sized monitors would work =\
09:59.34orionshocklol
09:59.57orionshockluckily i have 2 lcds that are the same model
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10:06.58RabbitbunnyOkay, That's actually some great tutorials.
10:09.18RabbitbunnyFigured out why nothing would give me a GUI, went ahead and got AceGUI-2.0. in the wowtester.lua (which I'm taking as an example) there's a empty table defined (TARD), I would name that to match my addon right? All the function calls are TARD:func() too.. makes it seem asif the example is named TARD.
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10:10.31orionshockRabbitbunny: um... ?
10:10.48orionshockwhy are you using anything ace2 gui ish?
10:11.02nevcairielAceGUI-2.0 was never finished :P
10:11.11AiianeRabbitbunny: TARD is the object that the AceGUI library is embedded into, in that small example
10:11.18AiianeAceLibrary("AceGUI-2.0"):embed(TARD)
10:11.31Nargiddleythere was an acegui 2 ?
10:11.41Aiianebut I'd suggest not bothering with AceGUI-2.0 too much, since like nevcairiel said, it was never really completed :)
10:12.13CIA-4503wang * r79726 10Magnet/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
10:12.13CIA-45Magnet:
10:12.13CIA-45- Now Magnet can pickup items in data.lua,including Cloths,Leathers,Mining,Herbs,Gems and Powders(Prospecting),Essences(Disenchant),Fishes,Meats(Cooking & feed Pets),Health & Mana Potions,Battleground Stuff.
10:12.13CIA-45-The idea came from the Looter's author EVmaker and sjones321.
10:12.16Rabbitbunnyso... I use 3.0? will that break the 2.0 libs i'm using?
10:12.20nevcairielNargiddley: Tem started writing it iirc (before CreateFrame was introduced), but once it came out, it was just ditched ;)
10:12.33Lyn_goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood mooooooooooorning vie.. wowace
10:12.35nevcairielRabbitbunny: if you really want to use Ace2, you can use Waterfall
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10:12.49nevcairielWaterfall is essentially the AceGUi of 2.0
10:13.06Nargiddleyah, diddn't think it was even started before CreateFrame appeared
10:13.08orionshockdel ~/wow/interface/addons/Ace2*
10:13.10RabbitbunnyI don't have a want really, other than something that will work.
10:13.41Nargiddleyand honestly I wouldnt start anything with waterfall now
10:13.59RabbitbunnyThen... how do you make an inteface?
10:14.05Rabbitbunny//r/
10:14.06nevcairielYou can easily use AceGUI-3.0
10:14.07AiianeRabbitbunny - so far, what Ace2 libs are you using?
10:14.10nevcairieleven with a Ace2 mod
10:14.30NargiddleyAceGUI-3.0 if you need config type windows
10:14.33Aiianebecause depending on how extensively you're using things, it might not be that difficult to just move everything over to Ace3 even
10:15.09Rabbitbunnyaddon console DB event hook library locale, dewdrop fubarplugin abacus stub and tablet. And No. I don't know what all of them do.
10:15.23NargiddleyWaterfall is really limited, its basically just a dewdrop menu crammed into a window
10:15.39AiianeRabbitbunny: and what addon is this for again?
10:16.00RabbitbunnyFuBar_FarmFu. Of which the only copy exists locally.
10:16.20NargiddleyAceGUI 1 and 2 were created before we had CreateFrame, and were made obsolete by it pretty much
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10:18.15RabbitbunnyYou're probably going 'omfg, newb used all the wrong libs!!!'. I don't doubt this. I coant find enough docs out there that make sense, So I grabbed FuBar_MoneyFu which did most of what I wanted, rewrote the menus to act like I wantes, wrote the hooks by guess from the one hook MoneyFu had and wrote the logic to store data into a table. The only thing I need now that MoneyFu didn't have is a frame to view the table.
10:18.55Aiianehttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame
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10:21.16Aiianethe other option is to simply create the frame in XML
10:21.33Aiianebut for a fubar plugin, CreateFrame is probably better
10:24.51RabbitbunnyWow.
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10:26.25RabbitbunnyJust omg. You just took me from 'screw it, I'll drop the data recording features and everyone can just live with it' to 'holy jesus, I just made a frame'.
10:26.35XuerianRabbitbunny: If you're using a fubar plugin, you probably want to use tablet to display the data
10:26.55XuerianRabbitbunny: MoneyFu should have a tablet display already, too
10:27.19RabbitbunnyWhere? tooltip? I don't know what makes that.
10:27.38RabbitbunnyRight click is definatly dewdrop.
10:28.45Rabbitbunnyyeah, tooltip is tablet.
10:33.23RabbitbunnyNah. CreateFrame has better documentation.
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10:37.49Aiianewell, yes and no. http://wowace.com/wiki/TabletLib has a fair amount of info
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10:45.04XuerianMost of the Ace2 libs are documented fairly well
10:45.59RabbitbunnyWe have differing opinions of 'documentation'. I want a tutorial and an explanation of what each arg does. Not just a listing.
10:46.15Zyndrome"The requested URL could not be retrieved" :C
10:46.30XuerianRabbitbunny: What you want and what you get are going to conflict a little bit :p
10:46.51XuerianTabletlib simplifies a LOT of CreateFrame's
10:47.47RabbitbunnyMeh. If tablet changes I'll have to guess how they fewlt like doing it, Since they don't feel like documenting. I don't care to learn something twice.
10:48.07Xuerianshrugs.
10:48.12XuerianNo reason to desuade you from that
10:48.49NeoTronhttp://eongames.com/tmp/ButtonBin.png well so far so good
10:48.55NeoTronnow I just need to make it customizable
10:59.37CIA-4503neotron * r79727 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: MagicTargets: Fixed LDB data object type.
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11:03.04Aiiane[03:44] Rabbitbunny: We have differing opinions of 'documentation'. I want a tutorial and an explanation of what each arg does. Not just a listing.
11:03.17orionshocki have to seriously wonder about addons that are embeding LDB, when in fact they shouldn't but instead do a simple lib check and setup the feed in OnEnable how omen does it...
11:03.18AiianeThat's basically what I was aiming for when I wrote the Ace3/Getting Started article.
11:04.33Aiianeshrugs at Orphis
11:04.35Aiianeer...
11:04.36Aiianeorionshock
11:04.43Orphis!
11:04.48Aiiane235 users makes for too many tabcomplete fails >.>
11:05.15HjalteNo-one tab completes me wrong :)
11:05.33Aiianeme either
11:05.42Aiianepick a better name, orionshock :|
11:06.53orionshockAiiane: no :P
11:06.58StanzillaKemayo: are you planning to make a LibDataBroker stream for BankStack?
11:07.07ccKepGrid _really_ needs a config mode -.-
11:07.22orionshockccKep: queue up for AV :P
11:07.31Aiiane^^
11:07.35orionshockworks for the vast majority of others why not you?
11:07.35ccKeplevel 1 addongnome xD
11:07.47Aiianewhy are you configuring grid on a level 1 alt >.>
11:08.04ccKepbecause I have my UI look exactly the same on _every_ char I have
11:08.18ccKepbecause I'm raiding (more or less, depends on char) with everyone of them
11:08.30ccKepshaman main, prot warrior alt, feral druid alt
11:08.33Aiianei raid with all 3 of my 70s, but their UIs dont look anything alike :P
11:08.48Aiianeone's a healer, one's a dps, and one's a tank... each of which has some different priorities
11:08.57ccKephttp://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/iface.jpg <<< my "old" shaman interface
11:09.15ccKepexcept enhancer, everything is quite general yet informational
11:09.29ccKep(I dont use cellular anymore, that was a really old screenshot)
11:09.42Aiianei hate having my player unitframe stuck in a screen corner
11:09.53ccKepI rarely look at it
11:11.02Aiianehttp://aiiane.net/images/newui3.jpg
11:11.51orionshockYaY 2.0 patch time :\
11:11.53ccKeptoo cluttered for _my_ taste :D
11:12.11Aiianetheres really not that much clutter
11:12.11orionshockgoes afk for a smoke while blizz's down loader takes for ever!
11:12.21Aiianethe upper-left window is not there most of the time
11:12.24Aiianeonly pops up for whispers
11:12.36Aiianeand the frame directly below my character in the center is focus frame
11:13.13Aiianethe set of curses is Opie, so that's not usually displayed, only when its hotkey is held
11:14.57ccKepguildmate had an awesome warlock ui, lemme see if the screeny is still there
11:15.16Aiianeyou also have a tad more horizontal screen space than I do, purely because of resolution
11:15.19ccKephttp://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3204/wowscrnshot072608004539mc2.jpg
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11:17.36Lukianhmm Omen bug on Mother
11:17.54Lukianone of the hunter's pet didn't threat reset on 2nd attempt and kill
11:18.47nevcairielknoiwn bug
11:18.56KemayoStanzilla: First time I've heard of LibDataBroker, so I can't claim to have any plans.
11:19.07nevcairielmake plans, faster!
11:19.08nevcairiel:D
11:19.11StanzillaKemayo: oh ok :)
11:19.14Stanzilla~ldb
11:19.15purlit has been said that ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master
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11:19.48LukianRecount21 month ago
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11:19.56Lukianwhy are there listed updates in #wowace-cia for it?
11:20.04Fisker-NeoTron btw
11:20.07Fisker-etaz0r?
11:20.17ccKepchatter doesn't save my font settings, QQ
11:22.13ccKep<Aiiane> you also have a tad more horizontal screen space than I do, purely because of resolution <<< widescreen resolutions rock for interface customization
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11:22.31AiianeI should point out that mine is widescreen too :P just not as large
11:22.32Adirellewell, any font pro ? I'm struggling to get some FontString updated with SetFont(font, size, flags)
11:22.41Aiiane1440x900 as opposed to 1650x1050
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11:23.11KemayoStanzilla: It might just be lack of sleep talking, but what would you want from a data stream from bankstack?
11:23.37StanzillaKemayo: it could be the same thing that the fubar addon provides
11:23.46Stanzillajust tooltip and onclick stuff
11:26.29KemayoI have no objections to doing this.
11:26.49Stanzillakk
11:27.54Aiianenight~
11:28.07nevcairielnight
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11:29.40Lukianso it seems Recount2 is getting updates, why isn't it updating in the files listing?
11:30.18nevcairielbecause its not in a working state
11:30.46Lukianheh awesome :D
11:31.36KemayoWhat's the relative merits of Fortress / these other LDB addons, anyway?
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11:35.45CIA-4503hegarol * r79728 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.de.lua:
11:35.45CIA-45AtlasLoot:
11:35.45CIA-45- undo latest commit
11:35.45CIA-45- reason: files on ace up-to-date and unnecessary changes
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11:41.02Matrix110|unveil the new Mage skill now!!!!!!
11:41.02Matrix110|go
11:41.03Matrix110|!!!!
11:44.04orionshockok... well that was an interesting read:  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5461887394&postId=53753730240&sid=1
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11:50.01Fisker-AHHAHAHAH orionshock
11:50.06Fisker-PS3 fanboy = FAILFANBOY
11:50.18Fisker-if he got that to work then my ass is red from paddling
11:50.21StanzillaKemayo: the user can choose how he wants his stuff displayed. the addon just provides data and the display addon cares about the "style"
11:50.45Fisker-oh
11:50.48Fisker-as the guy said :D
11:51.31|Pixel|Fisker-: I own a PS3
11:51.39|Pixel|and I have linux on it
11:51.40Fisker-you play WoW on that? :)
11:51.53Fisker-I know it's possible to run linux on it
11:51.56RabbitbunnyThat would be awesome.
11:51.59|Pixel|but I swear I'd really like to see how this guy managed to get WoW running on it
11:52.04orionshocki just thought that it was amazing that he managed it
11:52.04|Pixel|if he ever did, that is
11:52.08CIA-4503charon * r79729 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Druid.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):
11:52.08CIA-45Threat-2.0: Fix Lifebloom threat
11:52.08CIA-45Testing by Xinhuan[1] proves that LB HOT only adds half threat
11:52.08CIA-45compared to other heals, and the Bloom effect does not result in any
11:52.09CIA-45threat for either the druid or the target.
11:52.11CIA-45[1] http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13942.msg234447#msg234447
11:52.16Fisker-lying in my opinion :o
11:52.21orionshocki don't have a ps3, i've got an old xbox with XMBC on it :D
11:52.23|Pixel|especially since the machine only has 256MB of memory
11:52.27Fisker-I remember someone trying that with Windows
11:52.32|Pixel|and no 3d hardware acceleration
11:52.33Fisker-and the bootup sequence took like 10 minutes
11:52.47|Pixel|I insist on it: no 3d hardware acceleration
11:52.48orionshockYay - 2.3 to 2.4 patch
11:52.50orionshockround 2
11:53.01RabbitbunnyThat's a killer.
11:53.22Fisker-obviously he made a PS3 cluster and rebuilt WoW to use raytracing
11:53.25|Pixel|furthermore, I wonder how wine behaves on a non-x86 CPU
11:53.33orionshockim getting wow to work on Ubuntu(linux) and so far it hasn't puked and hated on me
11:53.35orionshockxpt for sound
11:53.38orionshock>.>
11:53.50Arrowmaster|Pixel|| ps3 only has 256mb of memory?
11:54.04Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Ecr8tWetI
11:54.06Fisker-xD, etc.
11:54.08orionshockand 256DDR2 as well
11:54.19Fisker-consoles don't have that much memory generally
11:54.25Arrowmasteryeah i know
11:54.25|Pixel|Arrowmaster: yes
11:54.30|Pixel|and I just checked
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11:54.32Fisker-They rely on processing power instead
11:54.38|Pixel|wine doesn't run on non-x86 processors
11:54.43Rabbitbunny3d hardware is very important. It's why I can't run WoW under ubuntu on this box.
11:54.44Arrowmasterthats why they usually fail at lots of things you think they wouldnt
11:54.56|Pixel|Arrowmaster: precisely
11:55.05Arrowmasteri mean the games too even
11:55.18Fisker-Texture detail usually looks shit because of it
11:55.27Addybot[14:54:38] <|Pixel|> wine doesn't run on non-x86 processors
11:55.29Addybotit does oO
11:56.13nevcairielit does on x64 =P
11:56.23orionshockthe thread infers that he used a PowerPC to x86 program converter... compatibility layer..
11:56.47Fisker-but that's just another element to slow it down
11:57.14Fisker-and nevcairiel x64 is just an extension to x86 anyways
11:57.16orionshock... true, but what can u say to the report of 50+FPS ?
11:57.18orionshocklie?
11:57.24Fisker-obviously
11:57.39Fisker-i r refusing to believe
11:57.54Stanzillathere is a 2.4 full patch you know?
11:58.01Stanzillaeww forgot scrolling
11:58.04Fisker-fail
11:58.07Stanzillaindeed
11:58.19orionshockStanzilla: not from vanilla 2.0
11:58.19Stanzillathat was for orionshock :P
11:58.26Fisker-there is
11:58.29|Pixel|Addybot: http://www.winehq.org/site/myths
11:58.31orionshock>.>
11:58.33Fisker-http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt
11:58.35|Pixel|Myth 10: "Wine is for Intel x86 only"
11:58.35|Pixel|Well, it is true that Wine only runs on Intel's x86 processors. Unfortunately it will also require quite a lot of work before it runs on other processor architectures.
11:58.36Stanzillaorionshock: there is one from 2.0 to 2.4
11:58.39orionshockanyone playing on Barth?
11:59.08Addybotthought it did
11:59.13Addybotand why am i not in here with adys
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12:00.45Lyn_Stanzilla, http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/#p2.4.0 full patch?
12:01.21Stanzillahttp://a.wirebrain.de/wow/patches/2.4.0/WoW-2.4.0-enUS-patch.exe ?
12:01.47Lyn_thought you need it... seems i misunderstood ^^
12:01.53Stanzillanah, orionshock
12:02.04orionshockanother random forum link:  http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557030319&sid=1&pageNo=2#22
12:02.16orionshock^^ 3.0 patch notes, watch for it, it'll get added :D
12:03.12StanzillaKemayo: on right click of BankStackFu: LibRockConfig-1.0: Field "desc" not found for "BankStackFu"
12:03.25KemayoDarn
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12:09.45orionshockgrrr
12:09.49orionshockpatch #4
12:09.51orionshockwtf?
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12:11.49orionshock^.^ what's wow's minor patch atm?
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12:18.42ccKepanyone have a good advice on a damage/healing meter? I used to use recount, but I never looked at those pie-charts and graphs and such.. so I think it might be a bit of wasted resources
12:18.55ccKepor lets rather call it overkill
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12:23.50HjalteccKep: Do you want it to safe several fights and such?
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12:23.54Hjaltesave*
12:24.17ccKepnot necessarily
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12:24.26XinhuanccKep, if you leftclick on a person in recount, it shows u breakdown for the stat dislayed in the mani window
12:24.28Xinhuanmain*
12:24.39ccKepI know that Xinhuan
12:24.47ccKeprecount is fine, it just has tons of features I dont use
12:25.21ccKepand resource-wise its kind of exploding (atleast for me, and yes I reset regularly)
12:25.55Iboong-Kenzohow to drag frames at oUF_Lily? Alt+Drag doesnt work, only SetPoint via .lua edit?
12:25.59HjalteI don't know if Violation is still working, but it should be pretty lightweight. Besides, if you delete the data in recount once in a while, it shouldnt be that bad memory-wise.
12:26.29Xinhuanor store less "last X fights" segments
12:26.36Xinhuanthere's an option for it now i think
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12:34.18Funkeh`I prefer violation simply because it doesn't save data ;p
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12:37.00HjalteIboong-Kenzo: Yes, no dragging.
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12:38.28orionshock>.>   SET gxResolution "3360x1050"
12:38.37orionshocku could say i have a slight problem
12:38.55Industrial2*widescreen?
12:39.43orionshockya,
12:39.53orionshockanyone know the standard widescreen options ?
12:41.44ccKephm?
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12:44.19orionshockthe widescreen rez'es anyone know them off hand?
12:44.48orionshock1680x1020 is what my LCD is at, what's the blizzard rez?
12:46.40KuosiFunkeh`: then again you can set how much data you want recount to store :P
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12:50.21Hjalte~seen tekkub
12:50.23purltekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2h 32m 22s ago, saying: 'same as FFXI'.
12:50.28Xinhuanorionshock, i think its irrelevant, the resolution options should be whatever the graphic card drivers tells wow.exe that it can display
12:51.02orionshockXinhuan: ... linux
12:51.27Xinhuandoesn't make it any different, wow.exe still has to find out what reoslutions it can display from the OS
12:51.34orionshockwow wants to run at 1680*2 x 1050
12:51.36CIA-4503kemayo * r79730 10Broker_Speed/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Broker_Speed: Initial import. Display speed. Straight up rip from SpeedFu.
12:51.45orionshockit won't full screen to one screen
12:51.55orionshock<PROTECTED>
12:51.56Xinhuanyou have your screens set up in dual single mode
12:52.01Xinhuaninstead of dual screen mode then
12:52.10orionshocki can get it to full screen but at 3kX1050...
12:52.13orionshockand that looks weird
12:52.32orionshockXinhuan: what exactly is "Dual Single Mode" ?
12:52.45orionshockthere is Clone and Twinview
12:52.52orionshocko.O
12:53.14Xinhuanthe first one sets the gxcard to treat the 2 monitors as 1 big monito
12:53.15Xinhuan+r
12:53.33Xinhuanso the only resolution it recognizes is the 3kx1050 one
12:53.51Xinhuanthe second one tells the gxcard to treat the 2 monitors as 2 monitors, but set them side by side linked
12:53.51orionshockyes that's called TwinView
12:54.00CIA-4503kemayo * r79731 10Broker_Speed/ (. Broker_Speed.toc): Broker_Speed: Embeds, etc.
12:54.02orionshock& that's also called twinView
12:54.10Xinhuanwell its 2 different things
12:54.13orionshock...
12:54.51orionshockwell while im sure there is alot of ppl that play wow on nix, i don't know how many of them have a multi monitor system...
12:54.54orionshock>.>
12:55.06Xinhuanin Nvidia, they are called "DualView" and "Horizontal Span"
12:55.14Xinhuanthere's also "vertical span"
12:55.24Xinhuan"clone" and "single"
12:55.30orionshockya i looked at them and DualView was what i liked on windows.
12:55.47orionshockit let me run wow on one screen windowed and everything else on the other
12:55.49Xinhuanthere's probably a way to set it up on linux ten
12:55.53Xinhuanthen*
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12:56.09orionshockbut iv'e set X11 to DualView but wow is treating it like it's on Horizontal Span
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12:57.02orionshocknnl, got the widescreen spec from a guildie and manualy set them in the wtf file and it is working BAU now :D
12:57.23orionshock& at 30fps, an improvement
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13:00.50orionshock^.-  switched to linux and my ping droped...
13:00.51orionshockwtf?
13:02.31Xinhuanlinux doesn't use TCP keep alive or that nagle stuff
13:03.11XinhuanBlizzard never disabled nagle's algorithm on the client, only the server
13:03.28Xinhuanso its pretty much useless, u still need an SSH tunnel to reduce ping
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13:04.02Xinhuanat least, that's what i think
13:07.34KemayoStanzilla: My current impression of LDB is that there aren't any display addons for it worth using yet. :P
13:08.22StanzillaKemayo: that means you have to beat Funkeh` or ag up with suggestions :P
13:09.59Stanzillaoh and copystring..he made barrel
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13:11.37KemayoActually, Fortress and StatBlockCore are both decent, but require waaaaaay too much individual configuration.
13:12.16KemayoI like the setting of useful defaults.  Neither can handle that.
13:12.46HjalteFunkeh`: I don't know if you saw my question earlier, but do you reckon a durability addon for a LDB display addon using different colours for diffent stages of gear durability is possible?
13:14.39Xinhuanthe display addon that is supplying the durability data string can supply the color codes surrounding the text string
13:16.45KemayoStatBlockCore seems to give preference to the value+suffix stuff if it's there, supplanting a colored text.
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13:32.42Fisker-~cartographer3
13:32.43purlmethinks cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
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14:00.05ramozTekkub: ping?
14:00.20Tekkubwhat
14:01.45ramozwhat does it mean when quests in tourguide has a green background?
14:02.32Tekkubin town
14:03.00ramozoh
14:07.41Pneumatusis archud2 maintained still, or is there a better alternative?
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14:14.36digmouseArcHUD2 works mostly
14:14.42digmouseI use IceHUD now
14:15.05Pneumatusyeh, it throws the odd error though with certain casting situations
14:15.27digmouseuh what certain situation? I dont get them though
14:15.57Pneumatusstill not sure precisely, but i do get them every now and again
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14:16.37sbsomething is really wrong with Skillet
14:16.47sbtakes ages to refresh / scroll
14:16.56sbso i have like 1-2s freeze after each potion i create
14:17.58fewynhmm
14:18.00fewynthat's strange
14:18.06fewynmy bankstack fubar button disappeared
14:19.36StanzillaI suggest reading changelogs :P
14:21.09fewyn'm totally doing that now
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14:35.29Fisker-Xinhuan my friend
14:35.40Xinhuanhi my girlfriend
14:36.41Fisker->o
14:36.55Fisker-can you run the optimizer on routes with some cool command?
14:39.27Fisker-you heard me Xinhuan
14:39.55Xinhuanno, u have to open the config
14:40.15Xinhuanno slash command is available because optimizing isn't something you do often, maybe you do it once a month or a week
14:41.09Xinhuanits like defragging harddrives ;p
14:41.39Fisker-;_;
14:41.53Fisker-it's just that the config doesn't work properly with acegui in wotlk yet
14:41.54Fisker-:o
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14:45.29CIA-4503sag_ich_nicht * r79734 10Moonshine/ (. Moonshine.lua):
14:45.29CIA-45Moonshine:
14:45.29CIA-45- You don't wanna know.
14:45.51CIA-4503sag_ich_nicht * r79735 10NotSimpleCombatLog/ (7 files):
14:45.51CIA-45NotSimpleCombatLog:
14:45.51CIA-45- You don't wanna know.
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14:50.11CIA-4503sag_ich_nicht * r79736 10PotHoe/PotHoe.lua:
14:50.11CIA-45PotHoe:
14:50.11CIA-45- You don't wanna know.
14:50.11CIA-45~plead Funkeh`
14:53.26CIA-4503next96 * r79737 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
14:53.26CIA-45AckisRecipeList:
14:53.26CIA-45- Update locale koKR
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14:57.24CIA-4503sag_ich_nicht * r79738 10NotSimpleCombatLog/ (NotSimpleCombatLog.toc koKR.lua):
14:57.24CIA-45NotSimpleCombatLog:
14:57.24CIA-45- Add in the apparently ever forgotten koKR dummy local file, because tortoise SVN is retarded.
14:57.56Zyndrome^ wut?
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14:59.47Fisker-attacks Xinhuan
15:01.45Zyndromewe got to start lecturing people into that it's not "illegal to mod files in WoW" but "not allowed to mod files", as it sounds like ... "Hey Dave, uhm I changed the AoE-cast circle texture to a pony from My Little Pony, and now the cops are banging on my door!" :S
15:02.40Cryecthmm
15:03.46HjalteWhat do I do when I want to load a fubar addon like durabilityfu with fubar2broker, but the fubar addon requires fubar as dependency?
15:04.18profalber1You need a dummy-fubar in your addon-dir
15:04.25profalber1like described in FuBar2
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15:17.57Xinhuanmaybe someone should delete Cartographer_<profs> addons from wowace trunk
15:18.08Xinhuanand force the use of gathermate ;p
15:18.46durcynkagaro wrote them, it's on him to do that
15:18.49Xinhuanwho has author rights to make such a decision? hehe
15:18.58Xinhuanhalf the wowace forums on cart posts are about those addons
15:19.04kagaroDid i add them initally?
15:19.24durcynor were those kergoth?
15:19.28kagaroi know fishing, stats i added first, i think mining and herbs wher ethere already
15:19.33Xinhuani noticed Nymbia removed some of his addons from trunk as they are either unmaintained or broken or deprecated
15:19.44durcynanyway, someone should sack up and move them to tags
15:19.50kagarokergoth had initial mining and herbs
15:20.06XinhuanCart_ExtractGas - ## Author: hyperactiveChipmunk
15:20.07Xinhuanhmm
15:21.04Xinhuanwell its just a suggestion from me
15:21.44kagaroI could pull  talismonger and delete it, that would effectivly kill thos profession module sin cart
15:22.27Xinhuanthat would prob get more user complaints than deleting the profession modules
15:22.40kagaromost likely
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15:23.43Mytosis there a mod that will let me post auctions in stacks/singles quickly and with little imput (ie auctioneer) without all the extra stuff
15:24.36durcynMytos: Fence and a /click macro or two.
15:25.22Mytosand, what mod is it that lets me save friends lists to import across characters
15:25.46kagarolols i just realized i did 7 of the cart modules
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15:27.52Xinhuanand their art
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15:31.13kagarothere I just stickied a big stop using them in teh cart forum
15:34.53kagaroill try to get ahold of kergoth
15:35.18kagaro~seen kergoth
15:35.21purlkergoth is currently on #oe #edev #elinux, last said: 'iirc anyway'.
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15:43.29sb!ar 450
15:43.29Xinhuan450 arena points require 1589(5s), 1634(3s) and 1690(2s) team rating.
15:47.07fewynThe first glass of caffeine of the day is always the best.
15:48.31Mytosespecially when mixed with nicotine
15:48.48AdysIs there a lua function for dec => hex conversion?
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16:05.56TemAceGui-2.0 was ditched because it was over complex
16:06.00Temit needed a redesign
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16:28.18Zyndrome*foam around mouth*
16:29.30charonsomeone buy Zyndrome a mirror so he doesn't have to use webcam+computer to shave
16:29.46ZyndromeI have a cam but it sucks balls
16:29.53Zyndromehairy ones
16:30.51Zyndromejust that Alliance is ass in AV
16:30.57Zyndrome4-5 horde > an entire offense
16:34.08charonthe alliance have so much to learn from the horde... usually when the alliance loses, they blame the other alliance! but when the horde loses, they blame the map. so much easier!
16:36.43harldephinsomething's wrong with Pitbull or its banzai module from time to time - it seems to get stuck at "aggro" and doesn't reset the bars to their standard colours when that unit looses aggro.
16:39.05harlsomething's wrong with my nick, i know..
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16:44.48GagorianXinhuan
16:44.54GagorianDid Righteous Fury affect PoM?
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16:52.09GagorianHmm, what addon breaks my flightmaster flightpoints?
16:52.22GagorianI just see the arrows, everything else is missing. Recently only run WAU
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16:53.25yoshimocharon & zyndrome , on my battlegroup the horde is the stupied fraction that almost never wins :P
16:53.44Silviu-waaa which is that
16:53.48Silviu-i wanna join ;-)
16:53.52Gagorianstupied fraction
16:53.54Gagorianwhat
16:54.20Chompers"Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:218: cannot change a protected metatable"
16:54.26Chompersi have no idea what's going on
16:54.29LukianGagorian, figure it out and report it :)
16:54.40|Pixel|you're trying to change a protected metatable :P
16:54.45|Pixel|isn't it pretty obvious ?
16:54.57yoshimoeu- glutsturm german servers
16:55.14GagorianLukian tried to fly over to BT raid in a few minutes, cba atm :O
16:55.34LukianGagorian, no epic flier? :(
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16:57.16GagorianOn mah alt, so no :(
16:57.32Fisker-Zeksie i hate you
16:59.01CIA-4503archarodim * r79739 10FlightHUD/ (. Locale-enUS.lua):
16:59.01CIA-45FlightHUD:
16:59.01CIA-45- enUS was not registered as default localization, as a result any non enUS or non Chinese client would spit an hideous error and do nothing...
16:59.01CIA-45- added tsvn:logtemplate property
17:03.48yoshimoi often get An action was blocked because of taint from Chatter - LFGQuery() in my taintlog
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17:12.53CIA-4503oridan * r79740 10SpellReminder/core.lua:
17:12.53CIA-45SpellReminder:
17:12.53CIA-45- FIX: default filter priority didn't make sense. Self, Target and Focus now have higher priority by default than buffs and debuffs.
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17:21.51NeoTronFisker-: I hope to have something ready for testing today
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17:22.20NeoTronhttp://eongames.com/tmp/ButtonBin.png
17:26.55Saroz_wtf
17:27.03Saroz_how do I get my magicmarker thingie back to fubar
17:27.23Kepcheer, no more clutter... http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080308160533lb3.jpg
17:27.47NeoTronSaroz_: hmm what do you mean?
17:28.02Saroz_kep what buff addon is that
17:28.13KepSatrinaBuffFrames
17:28.25Kepwith ButtonFacade -> Serenity skin for round buttons
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17:44.04Kuosiso dont like that bf skin :o
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18:22.15aestili have to play a rogue on felymst and m'uru
18:22.21aestilwhat consumables do i need?
18:23.58p3limanyone here know a good application to rip dvds?
18:24.17Zyndromeanything that increases your damage :P
18:24.23charonaestil: coffee? ;)
18:24.29Pneumatushmm, appears /dump has broken in AceConsole-2.0 on the latest wotlk beta build
18:26.11Sayntp3lim: http://handbrake.fr/
18:26.23p3limSaynt: just tried that one, didnt do shit
18:26.28p3limclicked start, nothing happened
18:26.44Saynthrm works great for me
18:28.17p3limok, I hit the Animation preset, choose VIDEO_TS from my dvd, add a destination file and hit start
18:28.25p3limit says "Encoding Finished" and thats about it
18:30.17p3limwanna see the log?
18:30.22CIA-4503adirelle * r79741 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: added a new bar method : bar:SetText(text)
18:30.23SayntI just select the disc as the source
18:31.07p3limError: No Title(s) found. Please make sure you have selected a valid, non-copy protected source. Please refer to the FAQ (see Help Menu).
18:32.02p3limTrying to rip an NTSC Deathnote DVD
18:32.39Zyndromebleh, our french priest officer ... "No, he is 'ealing de reds!" .. apparently we got commies in our raid
18:32.59Kuosip3lim: is it the movie or anime?
18:33.06p3limanime
18:33.34p3limhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note
18:33.43Kuosiyes i know what it is :P
18:33.59Zyndrome0,0 L dies
18:34.04Kuosiseen anim and even read the manga
18:34.14Kuosithe movies were bad
18:34.19p3limah ok, didnt know about any movie
18:34.28p3limI just have 3 copies of Deathnote dvds
18:34.28raegxin order to get a mod to show up in the "Addon Preferences", which library is being used
18:34.32p3limthat I want to rep
18:34.44p3limraegx: none, just a valid toc file
18:34.54raegxuh
18:35.01p3limor you mean the interface options thingie?
18:35.13raegxnot the blizzard one, the old one
18:35.13Sayntp3lim: I'm not sure what that issue is, I just open source, select the disc and hit start. It's usually pretty easy.  Try another disc?
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18:35.36p3limgonna try now
18:36.03raegx@pelim: there is a minimap icon and i click it and it shows my ace addons. The frame is titled "Addon Preferences"
18:36.15Zyndrome/rock ?
18:36.49p3limprobably Rock yeah
18:37.26p3limSaynt: Tried some other discs too, same error
18:37.30Kuosianyway
18:37.32Saynt><
18:37.41KuosiIsn't DvD shrink the most used ripper?
18:38.02raegxyes it is rock
18:38.12raegxnow how do i also provide similar functionality
18:38.24PaeneAnyone here familiar with eclipse's internal web browser?
18:39.15p3limSaynt: Handbrake aint a ripper
18:39.18p3limits a converter
18:39.35p3limI need a ripper cause my dvds have copyright blockers
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18:40.01raegxDVDShrink?
18:40.01Sayntahh i'm sorry i thought you wanted to just get it into a local .avi or something
18:40.13Mytoshow much work would it be to make a mod that just adds more macro slots
18:40.54Mytosi dont need extended macros, just more slots
18:41.20Paeneprobably more work than it would take to delete a macro that you're not using anymore...
18:41.26Paeneplus I'm not sure if it's even possible
18:41.49Mytosi use them all
18:41.57p3limraegx: is it able to break through copyright blocks?
18:42.31Paenebest bet would prob be a bar addon that allows macroing
18:42.43raegx@p3lim: yes
18:42.45p3limMytos: how can you need so many macros? I dont even use that many spells to fill up macros avalible for one char
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18:42.51p3limraegx: ait, thanks, ill try it
18:43.12Mytosmultiple characters that use multiple macros
18:43.22PaeneMytos: "At present, the only way an add-on is going to be able to give you more, or longer, macros is by creating new buttons or bars for them. The internal macro engine which creates the macros that can be dragged from button to button is limited to 18 general and 18 character specific macros of no longer than 255 characters each, and add-ons can't change this. The only way they can work around it is by creating their own buttons with dedicated
18:43.45PaeneMake sure any macros used by more than one character are in the general tab
18:44.17p3limstupid ass site though, doesnt even have a download for it
18:45.20p3limgg, their host has deleted the file from their server
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18:46.45Mytoswhat are you lookin for p3lim
18:46.54raegxso FuBarPlugin-2.0, does that handle rock integration?
18:47.02p3limMytos: dvd dipper
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18:50.04p3limfound a dl and the program seems to be working
18:50.06p3limfinally
18:50.30Mytosdvd dipper?
18:50.34p3limyep
18:50.36Lan|ZZZzzzZZZzzzDVD Decrypter rocks
18:50.45p3limso does DVD Shrink
18:50.53LanerraHaven't tried that one yet
18:51.17LanerraAutoGK also rocks for encoding to an XviD format :)
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18:52.49p3limyeah i read that
18:52.53p3limbut im using avi format
18:53.09raegxavi is a container
18:53.21LanerraYeah
18:53.28raegxavi's can contain video encodings such as divx, xcid, etc
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18:54.00Zyndromewtb less shit on corridor-side @ Muru atm :/
18:54.05LanerraI use it to make local copies of my DVDs. I set it to preserve original AC-3, 75% quality and BAM! Pretty much the exact quality of the DVD with it being about a fourth the size. It rocks
18:54.11raegxFubarPlugin looks like what i'm trying to do
18:54.39p3limLanerra: Im taking a local copy of my friend's dvd
18:54.50p3limand then burning it on a fresh dvd without a zone lock
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18:58.30LanerraNice
19:04.10p3limhm..
19:04.18p3limknow any tools that let me cut into a avi file?
19:05.02p3limthis dvd contains 1 huge video file with all episodes and even the extras and menu clips into one huge video file
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19:08.40KuosiVideo_ts
19:08.41Kuosi?
19:08.55p3limwell yeah
19:10.33p3limid like a tool to cut or patch video files
19:10.42Kuosihttp://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvdx.cfm
19:10.51p3limsay I have this 1 movie with CD1 and CD2, what if id like to patch those two into 1 file?
19:13.27Kuosipretty sure afterdawn has guides for dvd ripping too
19:13.39p3limi got the ripper
19:13.40Kuosihttp://www.afterdawn.com/guides/
19:13.43Kuosiif u cba to read
19:13.43p3limnow I want a cutter :)
19:14.53CIA-4503neotron * r79742 10ButtonBin/ (. ButtonBin.lua ButtonBin.toc):
19:14.53CIA-45ButtonBin: Initial import
19:14.53CIA-45- Minimalistic icon-only LibDataBroker displayer addon.
19:14.58Kuositry using browser search on the guide link
19:15.45p3limhm nothing
19:16.32Kuosionly found some mpeg2 editor called cuttermaran
19:16.42|Yssaril|hmm where to level next nagrand or terrokar forest any preferences?
19:17.51p3limfound VirtualDub
19:19.13Kuosiah virtualdub can do taht aswell?
19:19.24LanerraDoh...this whole time I've been writing my own coordinate code into pMinimap and didn't even realize there was a plugin already for it >.<
19:20.03Kuosionly been using it for fraps movie making
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19:29.08p3limLanerra: naha :P
19:29.33p3limanyways coordinate addons is like 3-4 lines
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19:30.06LanerraBasically
19:30.21CIA-4503neotron * r79743 10ButtonBin/ (6 files in 3 dirs): ButtonBin: externals
19:30.31LanerraI remember seeing somewhere that there was a way to have coordinates in an instance. Don't remember where I saw that, though
19:30.38p3lim1 api, 1 fontstring, 1 onupdate script, voilá, coordinate addon
19:32.53CIA-4503neotron * r79744 10ButtonBin/ButtonBin.toc: ButtonBin: Fixed category
19:34.05_mytos|Yssaril|: i always go to nagrand, i skip terrokar
19:34.11LanerraI still haven't figured out how to get the backdrop for TimeManagerClockButton to go away. p3lim, would you happen to know a way?
19:34.41p3limdont bother making a clock plugin, I already did that too
19:34.45cncfanatic1damn I'm so amazingly fucking bored
19:35.17_mytoson most high pop realms if people get bored in shat theyll go farm herbs/mines in terrokar, plus the people that are queing for arenas/bgs constantly love to go gank in terrokar while they wait for ques
19:35.36cncfanatics_mytos: I'm no pvp'er
19:35.43cncfanaticsand I don't have collecting profs either
19:35.47p3limLanerra: take a look at pMinimap_Clock found on wowi
19:36.15LanerraYeah, I've had a peep at it. Just trying to make it only text with no somewhat-trasparent
19:36.36p3limtransparent?
19:36.38_mytoscncfanatics: he was asking wether to go to terrokar or nagrand next, i was just stating my reasons why
19:36.48LanerraYes, there's a backdrop to the text
19:36.49Fisker-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cummingtonite <-i see what they did there
19:37.21p3limLanerra: yeah which ive removed
19:37.31LanerraDoing a /script TimeManagerClockButton:SetBackdrop(nil) in game works. Adding it to Lua code, however, has no effect
19:37.53p3limTimeManagerClockButton has no backdrop
19:38.14LanerraBut...it shows that little black box behind the text on my pMinimap_Clock...
19:38.39p3limwhat little black box? screenshot to prove please
19:38.46LanerraAlright, one sec
19:38.46KriLL3Cart3 is atm quite bare bones, and adding handynotes, tomtom etc to restore some of the features of Cart2 makes it all feel very disjointed, will Cart3 be more of a complete package at some point?
19:39.29vithosi've heard you can use Cartographer2 modules with it
19:40.07KriLL3vithos: well the problem is to know what you need to leave in there, if you run both you effectively run... both... aka a lot more resources used
19:43.00_mytosat this point, do things like memory resources even matter? i mean its rare that you find a system with less than 2gb of ram anymore
19:43.57_mytosthe only thing i could see being worried about in resources is processor load, and even then its not a huge worry
19:44.52NeoTronwell basic feature set of ButtonBin is done now. now I just need do everything else, like allow you to disable datablocks and define a custom order somehow
19:45.09_mytosbuttonbin? whats it do?
19:45.39NeoTronit's a display module for LibDataBroker
19:45.42Lanerrap3lim: http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/Confondu/ClockProof.jpg
19:45.43NeoTronthat just shows the icons
19:46.08LanerraI moved the text out of the way so you could see the box behind it
19:46.20NeoTronmainly meant for the addons which display no useful information themself (i.e launchers primarily)
19:46.53p3limLanerra: let me look at your code
19:47.28p3lim(www.wowuidev.pastey.net)
19:47.56LanerraWell, it's just your code
19:48.06NeoTron_mytos: http://eongames.com/tmp/ButtonBin2.jpg
19:48.17LanerraMinus my text to move the text off the box so you could see
19:48.35NeoTronpretty spartan at the moment
19:48.49LanerraLet me redownload the addon, maybe it's just something wonky
19:48.49Atriace_what what?
19:49.47NeoTron_mytos: as for memory use, the larger the memory use of the lua runtime, the more resources garbage collection takes. it's not just about memory
19:51.31LanerraNope...even after redownloading the addon, there's still a 'backdrop' to the clock text
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19:56.15p3limLanerra: you changed the layer/strata of the minimap?
19:56.43LanerraNot that I'm aware of. It's just pMinimap with pMinimap_Coords and pMinimap_Clock
19:56.58p3limok
19:57.08p3limopen pMinimap_Clock.lua, line 57
19:57.28p3limreplace the line with the following and test: texture:Hide(); texture.Show = function() end
19:59.11LanerraAlright, testing. One sec
19:59.50LanerraNope...still there
20:00.11p3limweird, cause there arent any backdrops for that frame
20:00.18p3limand im not having that issue of yours
20:00.39LanerraWhy is it my shit always gets busted?
20:01.29LanerraThe MailFrame does the same thing
20:01.36p3limwhat?
20:02.14LanerraYou know how yours just has text, instead of an icon? There's the text, and then beneath it is a small black semi-transparent square, much like the coords
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20:02.43p3limtry load ONLY pMinimap
20:02.48p3limdisable all other addons
20:03.03LanerraAlrighty, one sec
20:03.09p3limthen check that mail text issue (and that clock issue aswell)
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20:05.42LanerraCrap...I've forgotten to keep my Test Bed updated. It'll be just a moment, p3lim, sorry
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20:12.43LanerraWeird...it's not working properly by itself
20:13.00LanerraIt's still drawing all the Minimap Elements...let me redownload that one as well
20:14.12LanerraAlright, now it works just fine
20:14.19LanerraTesting the Coords and Clock
20:14.46p3limyep
20:15.40p3limall the 3 plugins I made for pMinimap should work with eachother and invidually
20:16.33LanerraAlright, mail indicator works fine, coords works fine, and I can't quite tell if the clock is working. It looks like the backdrop might be there but it's hard to tell with the scale of the text
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20:17.10LanerraAh, nope, it's working just fine
20:17.24p3limwhat I though, youve got an addon interfering
20:17.54mpopnoob question: how would I concatenate 2 strings? can i use C++ style of newString = oldString1 + oldString2 or is there a function call I need to do for lua?
20:18.12LanerraThanks, p3lim. I'll have a look into it
20:18.15Aiianestring1 .. string2
20:18.20Aiiane.. is the concat operator
20:18.51mpopok so correct my syntex here I could do "newstring = oldstrinone .. newstringtwo"?
20:18.57Aiianeyes
20:19.01mpopthanks
20:19.11mpopand thanks for all you help last night Aiiane
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20:27.14_mytoswhat would make parrot stop showing white damage from melee/wands?
20:29.26fewynit being parrot?
20:29.43fewyn=p i tried parrot and didn't like it, msbt > *
20:29.46Pneumatusanyone know if there's an API function to open the loot window of a targetted mob?
20:30.38Pkekyo|christ, metalheads are even wores than retri paladins....
20:30.39Pkekyo|shrugs
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20:38.08mpopWhere can I find infomation about making a fubar menu for an addon?
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20:43.27profalbert_mytos: deacivating the event in the options does?
20:43.29Funkeh`why would you make a fubar menu
20:44.16_mytosi dunno what did it, so i just deleted saved varaibles and it fixed it, i dont really change anything other than positions anyways
20:48.29mpopfor my addon so I can learn how to do it
20:48.48KemayoFunkeh`: I would theorize because FuBar is far more popular than any of the LDB stuff at the moment. :P
20:50.24mpopplus i would alos theorize that fubar probably has all the functions I would need to make a menu handle the events etc so I don't have to deal with that myself let some one else write and deal with that shit and me just be lazy and use their work by my addon
20:51.35ulicFunkeh` is probably saying, why not just use Ace3 stuff and make a Ace3/WoW Addons config screen.
20:52.12_mytoswhats the slash command to create a timer bar in bigwigs
20:52.30mpoplocal or raid wide (must be lead or assist for this one)
20:52.49mpoplocal : /bwlcb
20:52.55mpopraid wide /bwcb
20:56.01_mytoswhat would the exact code be for a 15 second bar?
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20:56.48Pneumatus/bwlcb 15 Test
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20:57.39_mytoscan i make that display in its own section away from the other bars?
20:57.48KemayoFunkeh`: Any chance of getting a global scale option in StatBlockCore?
20:57.53fewynthank you Kemayo
20:58.22ulic_mytos: don't think so, all BW bars are grouped together.
21:01.14Pneumatusyeh, dont think its possible to set a custom anchor or anything
21:01.15Funkeh`Kemayo, yeah it was already requested
21:01.22Funkeh`I'm so short on time lately it's kicking my ass
21:01.42Funkeh`I just cleaned out ike 5 svn req's the other day
21:01.46Funkeh`50*
21:02.10Funkeh`poor Aiiane waiting over a week for that patch
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21:02.14Funkeh`gave up and did it ;p
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21:09.54_mytosannnnnnnnnnnddddddddddd tich dies
21:11.21RabbitbunnySweet, I now have a white box that opens/closes with an OnClick().
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21:22.35Neyaisn't table.foreach traversing the indexes of a table alphabetically?
21:24.11Rabbitbunnyi haven't seen that. for ipairs() definatly doesn't.
21:26.15Arrowmasterdont use foreach
21:26.20Arrowmasterand no it wont
21:26.43Funkeh`you need to sort it
21:30.55Neyahmm, time to redo some more code them.
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21:46.41Daemonahaha
21:46.47Daemonag'evening Ackis :)
21:47.36NeoTroncontemplates making a LDB object for his LDB displayer
21:47.50NeoTronclick the button to display the modules displayed within
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22:05.20Pkekyo|WHY THE HELL AM I WEARING SUNGLASSES?!
22:05.29NeoTronBECAUSE IT IS DARK
22:05.36Pkekyo|YES IT IS
22:05.44Pkekyo|WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?!
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22:06.16Adirellemaybe should I come later ^^
22:06.30AdirelleI didn't mean to disturb you
22:06.35Pkekyo|NO, IT'S OKAY
22:06.42Pkekyo|WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON
22:06.49Pkekyo|maybe I should stop shouting now....
22:06.57Pkekyo|shrugs
22:07.43Ziconstuffs a banana in pkekyo|.
22:10.08Pkekyo|metalheads are just as fucking bad as retri paladins >.<
22:11.41Pkekyo|"no u metal r only gud music in wordl k!!!!!!111"
22:11.55Chompers...what?
22:12.14Pkekyo|I'm arguing with metalheads :p
22:12.23KriLL3is there some kind of reason why for a druid to function properly we need to grind pvp gear 3 times more than everyone else? :(
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22:12.51Pkekyo|KriLL3: yeah, it's called "decide on one damned specc"
22:12.58Rabbitbunnybecause you get three forms?
22:12.58KriLL3I have
22:13.01mpopagreed
22:13.02KriLL3no no
22:13.15KriLL3if I wanted to do all 3 specs I'd have to grind gear 4 times
22:13.33Pkekyo|find some other druid to be your resto bitch and stop whining
22:13.33mpopI play a druid and I only have 1 PvP set of gear (1 PvE set of gear) it not hard for druids to get what they need
22:13.51KriLL3I'm feral, thus I need separate tanking and dps sets or I'm useless at both, and since blizzard doesn't want ferals in the arena I have to spec resto to get any better feral gear
22:14.30mpopyou don't HAVE to do arena, and PvP gear will not server you for PvE
22:14.31Pkekyo|KriLL3: for pvp?
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22:14.51KriLL3ofc pvp gear serves for pve
22:15.03Pkekyo|KriLL3: don't be a dongjob, get pve gear the proper way
22:15.09mpopMy cat set (I am full resto) is all PvE gear no PvP gear
22:15.24KriLL3well then it sucks
22:15.37mpopI make rogues cry when they see my gear
22:15.48KriLL3? you don't have any res
22:16.09Pkekyo|KriLL3: not everyone are tools for the arena
22:16.10mpop40% doge 22.87% crit
22:16.18Luthorhuss~seen Hjalte
22:16.22purlhjalte <n=Hjalte@0x50a58153.svgnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 12m 36s ago, saying: 'What do I do when I want to load a fubar addon like durabilityfu with fubar2broker, but the fubar addon requires fubar as dependency?'.
22:16.22KriLL3that's aweful
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22:16.32mpopI don't PvP in my cat set, since I resto I PvP in healing set
22:16.48mpops/I resto/I am resto
22:17.12LuthorhussNight ppl
22:18.04Rabbitbunny~paste
22:18.05purl[paste] http://rafb.net/paste/, or see also pb
22:18.09Rabbitbunny~patebin
22:18.10purl[patebin] your friend
22:18.20mpopops I forgot to go cat form to give you numbers, crit is 24.35% and dodge is still40%
22:18.37KriLL3still aweful
22:18.41Neyaand add 9% on top of that if you lack the feral talents.
22:18.42KriLL3what do you use it for?
22:19.04mpopfor resto? I think that is pritty good, now if I had points in feral that would not be good, but I am 0/0/61
22:19.20Rabbitbunny~pb
22:19.21purl[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste
22:19.22mpopand never respec for anything
22:19.32Neyauhm, my bad, it's 11% from talents.
22:20.11mpopso Neya you are saying my crit would be 36.35% if I was feral?
22:20.23Rabbitbunnyrafb doesn't to Lua highlighting. Drop that thing off the list.
22:20.26Neyasomething like that yes.
22:20.29Pkekyo|seems like it mpop
22:20.51Neyasharpened claws for 6% and LotP for 5%
22:20.52mpopso in other words the gear is not that half bad for soloing even though it is totally off spec
22:21.14mpopand as I said you can get good gear with out PvP even for off spec
22:21.45mpopthanks Neya for the help on my point
22:22.24Neyafor pve and catform pvegear beats pvpgear, in most cases.
22:23.52ArrowmasterRabbitbunny: those are general pastebins
22:23.53mpopbut onto a lua programing question.  I am working on a slash command I want to be able to have it optionaly take a 3rd string of text so how would I have the function read the 3rd string
22:25.07Arrowmasterstring.split
22:25.09Rabbitbunnyhttp://pastebin.com/m7cfac129  I'm having problems with frames. The border doesn't show up, I can't move it, on login it's shown(bad), and to top it off the title text isn't there. Hints?
22:25.28mpopok so where is the string of the command that was called stored?
22:26.04mpopyes I am a total noob when it comes to the lua programming language
22:26.18Arrowmasterfirst arg to the function
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22:37.46Kemayofewyn: Actually, I'm probably going to get rid of BankStackFu before too long -- put a LibDataBroker-1.1 object into the core, and let it get handled by whatever viewer the player has installed.
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22:39.46fewynok Kemayo
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22:45.14mpopok I am not sure what I am doing wrong, I added an parameter to my function call based on the statement "first arg to the function"  I after a few problems decide to concatenate it to a empty string not sure if it is a number vs a string "local test = "" .. myArgs" and I get the
22:45.39KemayoYou were cut off at "I get the"
22:46.00mpopthe following error when I run it, "attempted to concatenate local 'myArgs' (a nil value)
22:46.12mpopya hit enter a bit to early sorry
22:46.25StanzillaKemayo: thanks in advance for that :)
22:46.47KemayoStanzilla: Well, I'm not going to do it until someone writes Broker2FuBar. :P
22:46.58Stanzillaheh
22:47.00mpop(I will admit this is kind of fun learning a new programming language, only know C/C++)
22:47.22KemayoWhich, admittedly, I'm tinkering with at the moment. :D
22:47.33Stanzillago go :P
22:47.56Arrowmastermpop: how are you registering this slash command?
22:48.33mpopthe function is setup as "function SpamVent:PrintTell(myArgs)" {this function will allow me to send the vent info to diffent people when they ask for it, so I named the addon ventspam.  The slash command is registered like "SpamVent:RegisterChatCommand("/ventspam",options)"  
22:48.51mpopand optiosn is listed as
22:48.55mpophold as i type please
22:49.04Arrowmasteroh
22:49.20Arrowmasteryour doing it with AceConsole-2.0?
22:49.32mpopyes I am
22:49.43CIA-4503adirelle * r79746 10Yatba/ (Yatba.lua embeds.xml):
22:49.43CIA-45Yatba:
22:49.43CIA-45- timer bars are grouped by target name, then by aura type and finally sorted by duration,
22:49.43CIA-45- timer label is based on a customizable template,
22:49.43CIA-45- the timers should be better updated when an aura is re-applied,
22:49.43CIA-45- lots of internal tweaks.
22:50.14mpopwas that a bad thing to do to use AceConsole-2.0?
22:50.43Arrowmasterno but using AceConsole-2.0 is a lot different than normal slash commands
22:51.20mpopok
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22:57.27mpopso using AceConsole, is there a way to get the next string so if the slash command is "/ventspam tell drun" I want to grab the string "drun" so how would I do that with AceConsole-2.0
23:00.50KemayoYou'd want to make tell be type=text in your options table.  Then the set function for it would be passed "drun".
23:01.36KemayoOh, and "get=false".
23:02.26KemayoTake a look at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#text
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23:04.02mpopdo I need a func argument or does just the work
23:04.24mpops/does/does set
23:04.56KemayoSet works.
23:05.21KemayoI always felt that this was a very annoying design decision, to be honest.
23:06.24KemayoThe execute-with-arguments stuff got rolled into execute in AceConfig3, so I'm happy now.
23:07.41mpopit worked thank you very much Kemayo
23:16.22TenchworksWe interupt this chat discussion for an Important Message: Please vote on http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/468-add-the-reports-of-the-cia-bot-that-is-in-curseforge/             That is all....
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23:28.30Groktaryay, my web host changed my cpanel/ftp password
23:28.35Groktarand the new one doesn't work!
23:28.40Groktarthis is awesome
23:30.14ccKepfor your provider: http://www.leenks.com/link119435.html
23:30.18fewynhmmm
23:30.22fewyncart3 is interesting
23:30.43fewynnot sure if i like it yet tho
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23:34.43CIA-4503adirelle * r79747 10Yatba/ (Debug.lua Yatba.lua):
23:34.43CIA-45Yatba:
23:34.43CIA-45- doesn't use periodical scanning anymore, uses bucketed events instead.
23:34.45Adirellenight
23:34.55AngusdonalsGot a question (duh), Anyone in here familiar with Poppins, and if so, how do you create a group? My group page is just blank
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23:40.32CIA-4503kemayo * r79748 10Broker2FuBar/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Broker2FuBar: This is really, really rough. It has no config. But it does work.
23:40.47Stanzilla\o
23:41.14KemayoNo, seriously, it's probably too rough to actually be useful still.
23:42.47CIA-45spew: 03Tekkub 07master * r8eb5c65 10/ (LibStub.lua Spew.toc): We don't need no stinking LibStub
23:44.47Kemayo(This is entirely because it has no configuration menus for the individual addons, admittedly.)
23:47.42ArrowmasterKemayo: which fubar does it work for?
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23:49.29CIA-4503kemayo * r79749 10Broker2FuBar/ (. Broker2FuBar.toc): Broker2FuBar: Externals, blah blah blah
23:49.43KemayoArrowmaster: Whatever your frameworkindependent lib works with.
23:49.58Arrowmasterhah did you hack that up?
23:50.26KemayoHaven't touched it.  Always worked more or less fine for me. :D
23:50.41Arrowmasterah im just wondering how you did it
23:50.53KemayoI could be persuaded to switch to Ace2 for maximum compatibility, I suppose.
23:51.09Arrowmastermeh
23:51.20Arrowmasteri really dont know how FuBar2 works vs FuBar3
23:51.49Arrowmasteri just know the lib name isnt something FuBar3 checks
23:51.54KemayoI just made a func to create a tiny fubar addon as a wrapper around a libdatabroker-1.1 object.  It's a fairly close mapping, and the callbacks let me update things as needed.
23:52.28Arrowmasterfor FuBar2 you might have to hack into FuBarPlugin-2.0 but i dont really know
23:58.19KemayoI only wrote it because Fortress and StatBlockCore really don't do what I want yet.  I'm thinking of it as a stopgap measure until someone writes a decent LDB bar addon.
23:58.40NeoTronKemayo: what are you looking for?
23:58.49NeoTronsomething that works just like fubar?

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