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| 00:03.31 | NeoTron_ | well that sucks. right now, at least, dynamic shadows don't work on MacOSX |
| 00:03.33 | NeoTron_ | lame |
| 00:04.37 | sb | they wont work on most win-pcs either :p |
| 00:04.42 | sb | need some hardware upgrade first :/ |
| 00:04.42 | Dashkal | I'm half expecting the "Refresh" link in gmail to change to "No, dumass, the key isn't there yet" |
| 00:08.44 | Nosrac_ | Dashkal: You mean yours hasn't changed yet? |
| 00:09.05 | Dashkal | not yet no. Might need to hit it a few more times |
| 00:09.29 | sb | there is no key! (tm) |
| 00:09.36 | Nosrac_ | The key is a lie |
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| 00:13.53 | cncfanatics | durcyn: update |
| 00:13.58 | cncfanatics | it got fixed already |
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| 00:16.15 | durcyn | i'm on the latest wowi svn rev, is it hosted elsewhere? |
| 00:16.29 | durcyn | oh, buggrit. |
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| 00:22.19 | Zhinjio | boing boing |
| 00:22.52 | Nechckn | Anyone who can speak Italian handy? |
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| 00:25.53 | aestil | why doesn't wowhead show how much dmg m'uru has in P1? |
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| 00:34.02 | kagaro | NeoTron: what video card you got in your mac? |
| 00:39.38 | vithos | so i just realized the font 'latha' doesn't have standard characters.. so it works fine in XChat but not in WoW |
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| 00:40.07 | vithos | anyone know what would be the fallback font used? i can't figure out what it is |
| 00:40.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah wows font handling is a little old and dones have any fallbacks |
| 00:40.21 | NeoTron_ | kagaro: "mac" ;-) It's a GeForce 8800 GT (G92) 256MB |
| 00:40.23 | erikh | $ make love |
| 00:40.25 | erikh | Not war? |
| 00:40.32 | NeoTron_ | and it's a hackintosh (dual code AMD PC) |
| 00:40.38 | erikh | this will now be a part of every makefile I write until I die |
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| 00:41.15 | kagaro | boo i have the same card (well 512MB) modle |
| 00:41.20 | erikh | http://www.fsckin.com/2007/09/24/189-humorous-unix-errors/ |
| 00:41.21 | kagaro | s/modle/model/ |
| 00:42.34 | NeoTron_ | it's simply "not supported". DX10 vs OpenGL I suppose |
| 00:42.46 | NeoTron_ | doesn't mean it won't be fixed (and it really doesn't work well in DK10 either atm) |
| 00:43.13 | ckknight | DK10? |
| 00:43.15 | kagaro | openGL supports dynamic shadows |
| 00:43.23 | ckknight | death knight 10! |
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| 00:44.32 | NeoTron_ | s/DK10/DX10/ |
| 00:44.48 | NeoTron_ | kagaro: it's more an issue of implementing it I suppose |
| 00:44.54 | NeoTron_ | meaning it'll likely come "later" |
| 00:44.58 | kagaro | yeah i would guess so |
| 00:45.13 | NeoTron_ | someone said you can turn it on but it's buggy or something. not in beta so I can't check |
| 00:51.21 | aestil | I'm wondering how the new shadows will work in WotLK. My laptop is 1920x1200 and its already sub 30 FPS in raids/shat. |
| 00:51.31 | aestil | i suspect I will have to get a new computer to use all the new fancy shit. |
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| 00:51.57 | vithos | there's a cvar that controls the shadow detail |
| 00:52.01 | vithos | it can be turned all the way off |
| 00:52.09 | aestil | right. |
| 00:52.27 | vithos | and yeah, it hurts fps a lot, more so the more you turn it up |
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| 00:56.37 | aestil | my wife has a computer that can probably handle it. |
| 00:56.46 | aestil | she has everything maxed right now, and is over 60fps |
| 00:57.16 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79586 10Prat/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 00:57.16 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 00:57.16 | CIA-45 | Checkpoint. Can load a module. |
| 00:57.41 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 00:57.41 | purl | whacks Vulcanus with a giant beaver's tail |
| 00:57.56 | CIA-45 | 03Kriery * r79587 10Nier/ (10 files): Nier: initial commit |
| 00:58.30 | Drundia | interface eats more framerate than so called visual complexity |
| 01:02.05 | |Yssaril| | sylvanaar: working on a new version for prat? (ace3?) |
| 01:05.11 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 01:05.36 | sylvanaar | and yes its using ace3 atm |
| 01:07.21 | |Yssaril| | cool |
| 01:07.24 | sylvanaar | so far so good |
| 01:07.36 | sylvanaar | doesnt do much at the moment |
| 01:08.00 | CIA-45 | 03Kriery * r79588 10Nier/libs/: Nier: libs folder added |
| 01:08.49 | CIA-45 | 03Kriery * r79589 10Nier/libs/: Nier: apply external prop. |
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| 01:19.21 | ckknight | since I'm dissatisfied with both luadoc and Autodoc, I believe I'm going to make my own doc format, I believe. It'll be closer to Autodoc, but a bit saner and more generic |
| 01:19.27 | ckknight | question I have is: what should I call it? |
| 01:20.01 | NeoTron_ | NIHDoc |
| 01:20.19 | ckknight | NeoTron_: do you have a good solution for me? |
| 01:20.22 | ckknight | for lua documentation |
| 01:20.22 | chiper | are there any auction house addons for doing mass buyouts? like let you check off which items to buy and do it all at once |
| 01:20.40 | chiper | getting annoying having to click->buyout->yes over and over |
| 01:21.19 | ckknight | something that handles multi-line statements sanely, handles errors sanely, has sane output, and doesn't make faulty assumptions? |
| 01:21.52 | erikh | ckknight: you could write a textile extractor |
| 01:22.02 | erikh | probably easy to do with ruby and the 400 textile libs |
| 01:22.08 | ckknight | erikh: hrm... |
| 01:22.23 | erikh | there's also texinfo, the venerable GNU format |
| 01:22.28 | ckknight | I'm more partial to markdown :-P |
| 01:22.35 | erikh | well, you have your options there too. |
| 01:22.41 | selckin | sounds like SaneDoc |
| 01:22.47 | Gnarfoz | chiper: Auctioneer Advanced's EasyBuyout? configureable, defaults to shift-right-click for buying stuf out |
| 01:23.04 | NeoTron_ | ckknight: I haven't looked at it so I don't know |
| 01:23.14 | chiper | shift-right click you say.... |
| 01:23.22 | chiper | here I've had it all the time |
| 01:23.22 | ckknight | NeoTron_: yea, I've been messing with it for the past few days |
| 01:23.24 | NeoTron_ | I know some people have used doxygen for that purpose |
| 01:23.33 | erikh | ckknight: are you looking to write inline or accompanying documentation |
| 01:23.38 | ckknight | inline |
| 01:23.43 | erikh | ok. |
| 01:23.52 | ckknight | specifically for library and/or framework APIs |
| 01:24.05 | erikh | yep, you should be able to whip something up in ruby or python easily |
| 01:24.12 | erikh | it'll be happy and portable that way too |
| 01:24.36 | ckknight | yea... |
| 01:24.42 | ckknight | that might be the easiest way |
| 01:25.05 | erikh | and they both have their various parser frameworks, so handling lua shouldn't be an issue |
| 01:25.08 | NeoTron_ | just curious, what's the problem with luadoc? |
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| 01:26.40 | ckknight | NeoTron_: poor error handling, inability to have multi-line statements nicely, output isn't very useful html (it should wrap things in <p> or <div> or something, but it doesn't, so I can't mess with its css) |
| 01:28.28 | selckin | patch luadoc? |
| 01:29.41 | ckknight | that is a possibility, but then it becomes non-standard and isn't luadoc |
| 01:29.59 | selckin | send em upstream |
| 01:30.35 | ckknight | sighs |
| 01:30.37 | ckknight | always such a pain |
| 01:31.04 | selckin | probably less work then rolling your own |
| 01:31.09 | selckin | unless luadoc blows |
| 01:31.22 | ckknight | it blows imo |
| 01:31.26 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 01:31.32 | ckknight | I'm not sure what the best approach is... |
| 01:32.38 | ckknight | I'm gonna try the markdown approach |
| 01:32.40 | ckknight | and see how it goes |
| 01:32.45 | ckknight | shouldn't take very long to hack up |
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| 01:45.16 | Evandiann | what is the difference between the revisions with and without a .##? |
| 01:45.54 | Diao | library updates |
| 01:47.12 | Evandiann | rso there will be no difference between downloading the libraries and an addon without externals and the newest one with the .## with externals? |
| 01:47.48 | ckknight | right |
| 01:48.03 | Evandiann | ok, just wondering. tyvm |
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| 01:50.27 | Arrowmaster | sending patches for luadoc upstream that give it better html output would be good |
| 01:51.12 | Arrowmaster | unless its output is ment to be xhtml? |
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| 01:59.05 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79591 10Prat/addon/modules.lua: |
| 01:59.05 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 01:59.05 | CIA-45 | Added comments on how the module system works |
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| 02:08.29 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: hrm, I should've looked into this earlier |
| 02:08.35 | ckknight | I can customize luadoc quite a bit |
| 02:08.44 | ckknight | to output better html, even |
| 02:09.42 | Arrowmaster | if its output is ment to be xhtml you could just parse it as xml and completely customize the output |
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| 02:09.47 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79592 10StarTip/Modules/Position.lua: StarTip: Fix positioning while in combat |
| 02:10.07 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: or I could just implement a doclet |
| 02:10.20 | ckknight | which I may want to do anyway, to output wiki format or what have you |
| 02:10.29 | Arrowmaster | ive never looked at luadoc that much for formating |
| 02:12.25 | ckknight | k, gonna go home |
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| 02:16.48 | fewyn | be nice is my grandfather told me he was flipping the circuit breaker, amirite? |
| 02:17.06 | Aiiane | s/is/if ? |
| 02:17.20 | fewyn | especially when we're on the 8th wave of trash on anetheron |
| 02:17.33 | Dashkal | fewyn: UPS :p |
| 02:17.42 | fewyn | router is not in my room |
| 02:17.47 | Dashkal | extension cable :p |
| 02:17.53 | fewyn | other wise of the house |
| 02:18.02 | Dashkal | second UPS :p |
| 02:18.09 | fewyn | i'm a college student? |
| 02:18.12 | Dashkal | ouch |
| 02:18.20 | Dashkal | um, wipe :p |
| 02:19.46 | fewyn | yes we did wipe |
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| 02:49.13 | Zeksie | anyone know of someone doign a DK mod for action bars to show rune usage on the icons. Like, red blob and purple blob on Plague Strike, red blob+ blue blob on obliterate. ? |
| 02:50.15 | fewyn | no, but it sounds like a good idea |
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| 02:55.00 | ckknight | I agree, does seem like a good idea |
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| 03:02.05 | sylvanaar | there will probably be several ui concepts for playing the dk |
| 03:02.36 | sylvanaar | whenever i get my key, i'll agree too |
| 03:03.27 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: so i was just looking at luadoc and noticed it didn't have a way to specifiy optional params =( |
| 03:03.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: gona have to write a custom taglet too |
| 03:03.54 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: that's okay |
| 03:04.04 | ckknight | how would it be different from a normal param? |
| 03:04.37 | Arrowmaster | sec |
| 03:04.43 | Arrowmaster | let me pull up a good example |
| 03:07.19 | Arrowmaster | ok AceHook-3.0:Hook() |
| 03:07.26 | Arrowmaster | -- ("function" [, handler] [, hookSecure]) or (object, "method" [, handler] [, hookSecure]) |
| 03:08.11 | Arrowmaster | was trying to find something with an optional param before a required one |
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| 03:08.36 | Arrowmaster | and this is close enough even though the comment in the source is split up into two instead of a single one |
| 03:08.42 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:08.47 | chiper | interesting. according to dogtag, all pets are male |
| 03:09.03 | chiper | this bears striking ramifications for the animal population |
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| 03:10.30 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: also i wonder how well it handles functions that only use ... and then split up the params in the function |
| 03:10.48 | ckknight | basically treat ... as one param |
| 03:10.57 | ckknight | works well enough |
| 03:11.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah but how do you doc that? |
| 03:11.23 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 03:11.59 | Arrowmaster | i should probably look at the luadoc source |
| 03:12.19 | sylvanaar | i dont think you should handle functions that split ... in the function |
| 03:12.43 | sylvanaar | since ... is an operator just go with that |
| 03:13.02 | Arrowmaster | well the person that wrote it knows what its doing and should be able to manually doc it |
| 03:13.37 | Arrowmaster | but can luadoc accept those manual docs properly? |
| 03:14.17 | sylvanaar | edge case - bad style - not a whole lot to gain from supporting it |
| 03:14.26 | Arrowmaster | yes there is |
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| 03:15.36 | sylvanaar | example |
| 03:15.42 | Arrowmaster | what about when you declair a function as object.method(notself, arg, notherarg, ...) but want people to call it as object:method(arg, notherarg, ...) |
| 03:16.47 | Arrowmaster | a lot of stuff with Ace3 and such is starting to use both . and : notation |
| 03:16.54 | Nargiddley | AceConfigDialog:Open might be an example of that as well |
| 03:16.55 | Arrowmaster | for different situations |
| 03:16.57 | Nargiddley | :Open(appName, [container], [path ...]) |
| 03:17.38 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: check LibSimpleOptions-1.0 to see how I did it |
| 03:17.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah we seem to code a lot differently than what luadoc expects by default |
| 03:17.42 | ckknight | I use luadoc there |
| 03:17.59 | ckknight | -- @name and such is used |
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| 03:19.16 | Arrowmaster | whats @usage do? |
| 03:19.20 | Arrowmaster | i knew about @name |
| 03:19.25 | sylvanaar | how to use |
| 03:19.30 | ckknight | @usage is the example of how to use |
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| 03:22.07 | Arrowmaster | you cant change the name on a param either can you? |
| 03:23.16 | pastamancer | arg, goddamn OnDragStart |
| 03:23.26 | ckknight | don't think so... |
| 03:23.54 | Arrowmaster | i really want to use luadoc since it already exists and is for lua, but it does seem rather limited especially with a lot of the coding style used around here |
| 03:24.25 | Arrowmaster | espeically if you are going in and adding documentation afterwards |
| 03:29.34 | pastamancer | is there really no good solution for attaching a drag-handle frame as a child of the frame you want to drag? |
| 03:30.15 | sylvanaar | do you mea resize drag |
| 03:30.24 | pastamancer | no, StartMoving() drag |
| 03:30.27 | sylvanaar | mean....like in the corer |
| 03:30.54 | sylvanaar | meh, typing isnt my best thing today |
| 03:31.04 | pastamancer | like tossing a header onto a window that is only visible OnEnter and then using that header to drag the parent frame |
| 03:31.29 | sylvanaar | arent there frames that are like that |
| 03:31.32 | Arrowmaster | whats the problem? |
| 03:31.35 | Nargiddley | I do basically that in AceGUI |
| 03:31.45 | Nargiddley | not the visible on mouseover but thats seperate |
| 03:32.01 | pastamancer | sometimes I mousedown on the header frame and can drag the mouse off the frame before ondrag starts |
| 03:32.12 | Arrowmaster | dont use OnDrag* |
| 03:32.14 | pastamancer | then with the mouse down I mouse back over the frame and ondrag is called |
| 03:32.35 | pastamancer | I wish I could remember the problem I had with OnMouseDown |
| 03:32.39 | pastamancer | I'll go try that again |
| 03:33.20 | Nargiddley | Just use mousedown/up, especially when its a header or something. You won't have the trouble of dragging on normal clicks on the frame. |
| 03:34.24 | pastamancer | yeah, I use mousedown/up in grid so I started off with that |
| 03:35.01 | pastamancer | oh right |
| 03:35.07 | pastamancer | sometimes the window jumps |
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| 03:35.51 | pastamancer | SetUserPlaced defaults to false for CreateFrame, right? |
| 03:36.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 03:36.28 | pastamancer | then nfi what is causing it to jump |
| 03:36.32 | Arrowmaster | otherwise i think my layout-cache would be MUCH larger |
| 03:36.33 | pastamancer | when I call StartMoving |
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| 05:17.45 | Hjalte | It's up here. |
| 05:17.55 | Kaelten | looks like sbc's network is having issues |
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| 05:54.42 | Groktar | looks for a new dot timer |
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| 05:59.55 | chiper | what's a good guild calander addon? groupcalander isnt working for our guild, looking for an alternative |
| 06:00.54 | Dashkal | GC and GEM are your choices, or wait for beta |
| 06:01.02 | Dashkal | or WotLK |
| 06:01.59 | Hjalte | Groktar: DotDotDot |
| 06:02.11 | steev | curse |
| 06:03.44 | gramg | what's wrong with GC? |
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| 06:05.12 | Dashkal | We actually switched to GroupCalendar from GuildEventManager |
| 06:05.15 | Dashkal | GC syncs better |
| 06:05.23 | Dashkal | Even if it _is_ beyond spammy |
| 06:05.33 | Dashkal | If spam is your problem, switch to a web solution |
| 06:06.08 | Dashkal | sleep time |
| 06:06.38 | Lanerra | Good evening, everyone |
| 06:06.50 | chiper | see, we cant get GC to sync at all |
| 06:08.09 | gramg | is this a 1 guild setup? |
| 06:08.30 | Groktar | dotdotdot doesn't seem to want to grow upwards properly |
| 06:08.31 | Groktar | :( |
| 06:09.35 | chiper | yes, just single guild |
| 06:10.07 | chiper | automatic mode doesnt link up. if we put it on manual it eventually connects but only some people get events |
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| 06:20.40 | chiper | nevermind, my guild master didnt read the user manual :/ |
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| 06:22.29 | Hjalte | Groktar: Reload the UI |
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| 06:36.10 | grzesieq | Breaking News: blank -.- |
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| 06:45.55 | NeoTron | man had to call the raid |
| 06:46.03 | NeoTron | over an hour early because we ddn't have the ppl |
| 06:46.11 | NeoTron | one tank can't stay on and ppl are dcing all over the place :( |
| 06:46.16 | NeoTron | worst night ever |
| 06:46.22 | KriLL3 | sounds like fun |
| 06:46.52 | KriLL3 | not as bad as back in the 40 man raids when I raided... |
| 06:47.10 | KriLL3 | was almost impossible to keep everyone connected and focused |
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| 06:50.48 | Neya | 40man raids could be fun, but it was simply too many that you had to depend on for it to be fun in the long run. |
| 06:50.56 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 06:52.01 | Lanerra | Woah, what the hell? |
| 06:52.19 | Lanerra | I just installed RBM and a couple plugins. When I fired up WoW, all my addons broke >.< |
| 06:52.46 | KriLL3 | sweet |
| 06:53.32 | Neya | I guess that is one way for the addon of saying "This addon shouldn't have been installed" |
| 06:53.50 | Lanerra | Pretty much every addon croaked except Chinchilla (/cheer for ckknight) |
| 06:54.05 | Neya | haha |
| 06:54.23 | Neya | you managed to get your own idea working? |
| 06:54.31 | Lanerra | Yeah, Chinchilla's just chilling up there going, "...where'd everyone go..?" |
| 06:54.55 | Lanerra | The MinimapMailText thing? Sadly, no...I'm on day three now |
| 06:55.00 | KriLL3 | Chinchilla is like simpleminimap's non retarded cousin |
| 06:55.41 | Lanerra | Haha |
| 06:56.06 | Neya | One way of solving it is to simply make an additional module for chinchilla, tried it and got so far as the text output doing as intended ... after you have visited the mailbox. |
| 06:56.24 | Lanerra | Doh >.< |
| 06:56.59 | Neya | basically I just copied layout of wheelzoom. |
| 06:57.20 | Lanerra | Well, here's the thing |
| 06:57.44 | Lanerra | I got it working at one point, but then Chinchilla started hiding it as it was considered part of the MiniMapMailFrame |
| 06:57.55 | KriLL3 | <3 the consortium, gems! :> |
| 06:58.03 | Lanerra | When you go in and turn off the hiding, it pulls back up the text AND the icon >.< |
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| 06:58.40 | Lanerra | Stupid escape key |
| 06:58.51 | Lanerra | Sorry about that |
| 06:58.55 | Neya | that's why you separate them, don't "modify" the original, make another instead, then you can hide/show them individually. |
| 07:00.01 | Lanerra | ...I gotta get that book |
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| 07:09.55 | Lanerra | Would a new module for Chinchilla be considered it's own addon? |
| 07:11.01 | Neya | Not nessecarily, I simply made it as the current modules for it are, folders whithin chinchilla. |
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| 07:40.53 | Orionshock | ~seen http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3451/errorzpa3.png |
| 07:41.04 | purl | Orionshock: i haven't seen 'http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3451/errorzpa3.png' |
| 07:41.04 | Orionshock | ... |
| 07:41.12 | Orionshock | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 07:41.13 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 1h 48m 12s ago, saying: 'nn'. |
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| 07:43.57 | Lanerra | That picture just reminded me...with mumble running, anytime I do a "ChatFrame1:AddMessage" it kicks an error :( |
| 07:44.18 | Lanerra | Something to do with the copypaste.lua |
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| 07:51.06 | Zhinjio | Tekkub: ping |
| 07:51.13 | Tekkub | wut |
| 07:51.33 | Zhinjio | um. |
| 07:51.43 | Zhinjio | the link to the tourguide editing thing on wowace is broken |
| 07:52.01 | Zhinjio | and I'm getting back into the guide I was making. |
| 07:52.11 | Zhinjio | was hoping you have a current link available. |
| 07:52.41 | Tekkub | uhm... |
| 07:53.00 | Tekkub | my page seems to have rolled back to a VERY old version |
| 07:53.09 | Tekkub | DOLBY! |
| 07:53.10 | Zhinjio | ack! |
| 07:53.15 | grzesieq | hm, there's no event that fires when a quest is actually completed, is there? |
| 07:53.16 | Zhinjio | i hope you didn't lose stuff |
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| 07:54.33 | Ellipsis | nibbles Zhinjio |
| 07:54.41 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis |
| 07:54.55 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis !! |
| 07:54.55 | Ellipsis | Fisker-'s Fisker-...'s mom! |
| 07:55.13 | cncfanatics | could anyone enlighten me |
| 07:55.21 | Tekkub | grzesieq, QUEST_LOG_UPDATE, you just have to figure out what quest updated |
| 07:55.22 | Zhinjio | sure. stick out your tongue. |
| 07:55.28 | cncfanatics | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t29470-libquickhealth_inspired_instant_health/ <--- what errorchecking COULD instanthealth even do ? |
| 07:55.30 | Fisker- | not my mom ;_; |
| 07:55.31 | Zhinjio | ahem. |
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| 07:56.40 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: check the code? :P |
| 07:56.43 | Tekkub | Zhinjio, http://www.tekkub.net:12003/ |
| 07:56.57 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis: I am |
| 07:57.05 | cncfanatics | I can't even understand why he does half of the things he does |
| 07:57.08 | Tekkub | the stealth redirect dieded |
| 07:57.09 | Zhinjio | Tekkub: thanks so much. |
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| 07:59.05 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis: mind looking at the code a sec and explaining me what the fuck he does ? :p |
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| 08:02.32 | cncfanatics | and also why the fuck he keeps a history |
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| 08:03.47 | cncfanatics | Diao: ping |
| 08:03.56 | Diao | what's up? |
| 08:05.36 | cncfanatics | Diao: on the thread on EJ |
| 08:05.41 | Diao | mmhmm |
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| 08:06.51 | cncfanatics | Diao: got an idea what the guy means ? |
| 08:06.58 | Diao | i haven't checked the thread, lol |
| 08:07.00 | Diao | let me go look |
| 08:07.36 | Diao | o_O |
| 08:07.39 | Diao | error checking? |
| 08:07.51 | cncfanatics | I'm wondering what kind of errorchecking it could even do |
| 08:07.59 | cncfanatics | but, looking at the code, I'm also wondering why it keeps a history |
| 08:08.01 | Rabbitbunny | phyber: I've been playing with MoneyFu, What do you think about expanding it to also track AucAdvanced value of inventory/bags? I can give you functions to valuate them. Hi btw. |
| 08:08.03 | Diao | no idea |
| 08:08.05 | cncfanatics | and loops through tables when a combatlog event trigger |
| 08:08.19 | Diao | adding/subtracting internally? |
| 08:08.23 | Diao | not sure |
| 08:09.13 | Zhinjio | Tekkub: thanks. perfect. |
| 08:09.50 | cncfanatics | Diao: if thats the code, its a silly god damn mem & cpu waste |
| 08:09.57 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:11.45 | Diao | is my reply correct? |
| 08:11.51 | Diao | that's how i understand it to work |
| 08:12.06 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: its also unregistering and reregistering every frame that registers for UNIT_HEALTH |
| 08:13.01 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: the coding is silly :s |
| 08:13.09 | cncfanatics | its one big hack imo |
| 08:13.16 | cncfanatics | I do wondering what kind of errorchecking it could do though |
| 08:13.29 | Diao | i don't see why you'd need error checking |
| 08:13.36 | Diao | all you're doing is simple math, then updating with unit_health? |
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| 08:14.10 | Arrowmaster | instanthealth has tons of hacks to work around the fact it fucks up everything thats not a unitframe |
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| 08:14.34 | cncfanatics | yep |
| 08:15.02 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: it also fucks up unitframes though |
| 08:15.10 | cncfanatics | it taints blizz unitframes, and renders the tot useless |
| 08:15.17 | Orionshock | imo massive hackery would be to hook create frame / get list of frames reged with UnitHealth - manually plug them into a CBH and dispatch on combat log... but if i understand that's what it's predecessor does? |
| 08:15.59 | Arrowmaster | its registering for UNIT_HEALTH and then unregistering and registering every frame thats registered to UNIT_HEALTH so that its the first frame to receive a UNIT_HEALTH event so that it can set UnitHealth() to return the proper value |
| 08:16.03 | Diao | what predecessor? |
| 08:16.38 | Orionshock | instanthealth |
| 08:16.45 | Diao | oh that's what we're discussing |
| 08:16.45 | Orionshock | being the predecessor to the lIb? |
| 08:16.49 | Diao | we were saying it was a massive hack |
| 08:16.50 | Diao | lol |
| 08:16.55 | Diao | nothing wrong with lqh ;p |
| 08:17.03 | Diao | much cleaner/efficient/doesn't taint |
| 08:17.09 | Orionshock | right, conferming the idea, only half paying attention :D |
| 08:17.28 | Arrowmaster | and it seems to constantly be reregistering to make sure its last for COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED so that it doesnt change the return of UnitHealth() before all other frames have processed COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 08:18.07 | cncfanatics | thats to fix sct addons and meters |
| 08:18.08 | Arrowmaster | it has one frame that everytime COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED is fired it registers COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED to the main processing frame |
| 08:18.20 | Arrowmaster | the main processing frame unregisters COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED on every COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED call |
| 08:18.33 | Arrowmaster | talk about fucked up |
| 08:19.05 | cncfanatics | wondering what I should answer to the guy on EJ |
| 08:19.07 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: Ace2Console "global this" fuckery style? |
| 08:19.17 | Arrowmaster | almost but no |
| 08:19.17 | cncfanatics | saying it does less "errorchecking" then instanthealth and thus is less accurate |
| 08:19.29 | Diao | i replied already |
| 08:19.32 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: much worse |
| 08:19.34 | Diao | but you can add to it if you want |
| 08:22.11 | Arrowmaster | my reply wasnt too negative was it? |
| 08:22.23 | Arrowmaster | i know EJ is heavyly moderated |
| 08:22.35 | Diao | it's harsh, but true |
| 08:22.40 | Diao | so if they moderate that.. |
| 08:22.50 | Diao | btw |
| 08:22.53 | Diao | it's affecting, not effecting :P |
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| 08:25.51 | Arrowmaster | i edited it to make it less harsh |
| 08:26.37 | Diao | haha |
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| 08:35.44 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: got an idea why it even keeps a god damn history ? |
| 08:37.11 | Arrowmaster | still working on that one |
| 08:37.36 | Arrowmaster | but how about why does its COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED run on every COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 08:37.47 | Arrowmaster | fully |
| 08:38.06 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt even check the eventtype until IH_CombatLogFilter(...) |
| 08:40.18 | Arrowmaster | this 'enabled = false' and 'enabled = true' on PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is funny |
| 08:41.49 | cncfanatics | I'm also wondering about that table |
| 08:41.54 | cncfanatics | that big table it checks against |
| 08:41.58 | cncfanatics | with every unitid in it |
| 08:42.22 | Arrowmaster | filterUnitID? |
| 08:43.37 | Arrowmaster | oh lol |
| 08:43.41 | Arrowmaster | this is so broken |
| 08:44.56 | Arrowmaster | the UnitHealth() that it replaces the original with, returns the value from the original UnitHealth() if you use a unitid thats not in filterUnitID |
| 08:46.11 | Diao | lol |
| 08:46.18 | Diao | so that's to check if the unit is in your party or not |
| 08:46.20 | Diao | or raid? |
| 08:46.26 | Arrowmaster | its friday so why the fuck is windows update eating up all my fucking cpu and ram |
| 08:46.33 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:46.59 | Arrowmaster | so UnitHealth("PlayersName") would infact return the original value |
| 08:47.20 | cncfanatics | fail |
| 08:47.26 | cncfanatics | why the fuck does it even have a filter table ? |
| 08:47.44 | Diao | because it tries to replace the unit_health by default |
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| 08:47.54 | Diao | so it needs to check if the unit is ok to update |
| 08:48.01 | Diao | since you only know hp values of grouped people? |
| 08:48.08 | Diao | so it's a fail method :p |
| 08:48.18 | Arrowmaster | OMG |
| 08:48.23 | Arrowmaster | look at IH_UnitHealth() closely |
| 08:48.37 | Arrowmaster | the else for the first if |
| 08:49.15 | Arrowmaster | pulling in a global |
| 08:49.24 | Arrowmaster | that probably doesnt exist |
| 08:49.43 | cncfanatics | in a heroic atm :p |
| 08:50.01 | Arrowmaster | actually that entire else is completely broken |
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| 08:53.33 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: the original implentation is not sloppy |
| 08:53.37 | cncfanatics | its a total disaster |
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| 08:54.26 | uzer | does anyone know if grid2 is being developed still, havent heard anything about it in a while |
| 08:54.28 | Arrowmaster | so what do you get when you call UnitGUID() on a unitid that doesnt exist according to UnitExists() |
| 08:54.37 | Zhinjio | Tekkub: does TG handle multiple waypoints in a single entry? |
| 08:54.37 | thul | good morrow |
| 08:54.47 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 08:54.53 | Zhinjio | its looking like it only makes a waypoint for tom tom for the first one |
| 08:54.57 | Diao | lol i asked that the other day uzer |
| 08:55.01 | Tekkub | yes |
| 08:55.12 | Zhinjio | hmm. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. |
| 08:55.15 | uzer | Diao: any answer? |
| 08:55.22 | Diao | it will be done soon(tm) |
| 08:55.27 | Arrowmaster | lua> t={}; t[nil]=nil |
| 08:55.27 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: table index is nil |
| 08:55.35 | Diao | http://wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 08:55.38 | Diao | that kind of soon :P |
| 08:55.41 | uzer | hmm, i know the repo hasnt been update in a while |
| 08:56.06 | Arrowmaster | so if we set _G.unitTable to something other than nil, we can cause InstantHealth to throw 'table index is nil' errors |
| 08:56.28 | Diao | lol |
| 08:58.33 | ccKep | http://bp3.blogger.com/_4-PpmLiFNSo/SJI6rCEbJVI/AAAAAAAAAFo/Y13HLNCLaFc/s1600-h/WoWScrnShot_073108_171819.jpg <<< need to flame that guy if/when I'll get my key ^.^ |
| 08:59.16 | Arrowmaster | omg |
| 08:59.27 | Arrowmaster | this UNIT_HEALTH handler is so fucking bad |
| 08:59.48 | Fisker- | ccKep |
| 08:59.52 | Fisker- | they should GET BALLS |
| 09:00.03 | Fisker- | and just remove them from the beta |
| 09:00.45 | ccKep | honestly, that guy would hardly survive if I meet him irl ^.^ |
| 09:00.53 | ccKep | such a no-brainer |
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| 09:03.31 | Arrowmaster | actually this UNIT_HEALTH handler would also cause a 'table index is nil' error if you could trigger a UNIT_HEALTH for a unitid that doesnt exist |
| 09:03.54 | Arrowmaster | but its got far greater problems than that |
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| 09:04.35 | Funkeh` | can I log on o tell him he spelt you're wrong |
| 09:04.41 | cncfanatics | ok, to be sure that I get all of instanthealth's imba errorchecking |
| 09:04.45 | cncfanatics | I decided to include all its code in my lib |
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| 09:05.48 | Arrowmaster | commented out with a line in all caps above it saying "THIS IS WHAT NOT TO DO WHEN WRITING AN ADDON" |
| 09:05.49 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 09:06.02 | thul | haha |
| 09:06.46 | Diao | rofl |
| 09:09.44 | Groktar | devours Diao's soul |
| 09:09.46 | cncfanatics | yea Arrowmaster :p |
| 09:09.56 | Diao | :O |
| 09:10.08 | Diao | becomes a mindless drooling zombie? |
| 09:10.08 | Lanerra | Maybe all the addon authors should like start up a consulting service |
| 09:10.24 | Arrowmaster | like why register for PLAYER_LOGIN if all you are going to do during it is populate a table with value that you could have done in the main chunk |
| 09:10.38 | Lanerra | Like $15/month, and the 'customer' can message the adodn author and get tips for coding, references, and direct help in the code :D |
| 09:10.52 | Arrowmaster | i already do that for free |
| 09:10.56 | Groktar | or come in here and pester Arrowmaster |
| 09:10.57 | Groktar | ^ |
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| 09:11.09 | Arrowmaster | the answer is that if you have to ask me then its probably wrong |
| 09:11.15 | Groktar | haha |
| 09:11.18 | Lanerra | True, but at least you receive compensation other than quietly laughing at them from your side of the chat :P |
| 09:11.39 | Arrowmaster | nah i dont laugh at the people that actually do ask for help |
| 09:11.44 | Arrowmaster | just the ones that dont |
| 09:11.52 | cncfanatics | like, the guy that wrote instanthealth |
| 09:11.56 | cncfanatics | or a'lar :p |
| 09:12.05 | Lanerra | What's A'lar? Haven't heard of that one |
| 09:12.40 | cladhaire | lul |
| 09:12.54 | Arrowmaster | hes an author |
| 09:13.25 | Lanerra | Oooo, my bad |
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| 09:14.30 | Groktar | hears the conver_fu author > Arrowmaster |
| 09:14.35 | cncfanatics | Lanerra: he writes the worst addons u'll ever see |
| 09:14.36 | Groktar | *converge_fu |
| 09:14.49 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 09:14.57 | Arrowmaster | convergefu was great |
| 09:15.06 | Groktar | did it get nuked? |
| 09:15.12 | Arrowmaster | too bad we would have gotten yelled at for messing with it |
| 09:15.15 | Lanerra | How some examples? |
| 09:15.16 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 09:15.26 | Groktar | :( |
| 09:15.28 | Lanerra | How about some examples, rather |
| 09:15.38 | Groktar | that's why i should have gotten svn access |
| 09:15.44 | Groktar | nobody cares if i get banned |
| 09:15.46 | Groktar | :D |
| 09:15.59 | ashb | hmmmm question about frames and scaling. My pitbull frame :GetWidth() is 238, a quartz castbar :GetWidth() gives 36, and yet they appear almost the same width |
| 09:16.02 | ashb | how? |
| 09:16.19 | Lanerra | What's their individual scale? |
| 09:16.27 | ashb | :GetScale() returns 1 on both |
| 09:16.35 | ashb | GetEffectiveScale returns 0.88999... on both |
| 09:16.55 | Lanerra | Um...er...Arrowmaster, what do you think? *plays it off like asking a colleague* |
| 09:17.05 | ashb | oh hmm. maybe GetMouseFocus() on the quartz bar isn't returning it |
| 09:17.11 | Arrowmaster | thats probably it |
| 09:17.23 | Lanerra | Ha! Exactly what I was thinking!...*hides in shame* |
| 09:17.44 | Lanerra | No, seriously, no idea. Still learning this all myself |
| 09:17.51 | ashb | maybe. :GetName() is BT4Button13Secure |
| 09:18.50 | ashb | next question then is how do i actualy get hold of the quartz castbar frame |
| 09:19.10 | Arrowmaster | dig through the code |
| 09:19.16 | ashb | yeah i am :) |
| 09:19.46 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r79595 10CastYeller/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:19.46 | CIA-45 | CastYeller: |
| 09:19.46 | CIA-45 | - minor GUI update, |
| 09:19.46 | CIA-45 | - drums should be announced only to party. |
| 09:19.50 | Lanerra | Wow, I just realized I haven't closed SciTE in like three days |
| 09:20.20 | CIA-45 | 03Kriery * r79596 10Nier/NierEquip.lua: Nier: added "Skybreaker Whip" |
| 09:20.28 | cladhaire | wow what gheytards |
| 09:20.33 | Arrowmaster | QuartzCastBar |
| 09:21.27 | ashb | Quartz:GetModule("Player").castBar |
| 09:21.58 | Daedals | is there a HOWTO:Make frame resizable? |
| 09:22.25 | Arrowmaster | Quartz:GetModule("Player").castBarParent |
| 09:22.37 | Arrowmaster | or its global name QuartzCastBar |
| 09:23.08 | Arrowmaster | thats the border actually |
| 09:23.36 | Arrowmaster | do you have the border hidden and are actually wanting to size the moving bar? |
| 09:24.05 | Arrowmaster | the moving bar is Quartz:GetModule("Player").castBar |
| 09:24.19 | Hey-WTF | is there a way to get the trinkets someone is wearing from an inspect? doesn't seem to be any obvious way from the API (unless you make everyone in your raid get your mod) |
| 09:24.23 | ashb | hmmm the parent bar is width 249 vs 238 |
| 09:24.27 | ashb | so closer, but still off |
| 09:24.41 | ashb | and all scales still just say 1 |
| 09:26.52 | ashb | which is all a little bit confusing |
| 09:27.53 | Ellipsis | is it possible that the visible texture you're seeing isn't stretching the full width of the frame? |
| 09:28.31 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r79597 10CastYeller/Locale-frFR.lua: CastYeller: frFR locale fix. |
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| 09:29.00 | Daedals | damn my pc crashed |
| 09:29.18 | Daedals | did someone answer to my question while I was botting? |
| 09:29.22 | Daedals | booting* |
| 09:30.47 | jaxdahl | freudian slip? |
| 09:30.53 | Ellipsis | you don't really need a howto for that |
| 09:31.03 | Ellipsis | almost all frames are resizable |
| 09:31.44 | Daedals | oh lol I didnt remember :D |
| 09:32.25 | Daedals | resizable="true" isnt it? |
| 09:32.40 | cladhaire | you have to set the handlers for it |
| 09:32.49 | cladhaire | look in LightHeaded's code |
| 09:32.53 | cladhaire | it should be pretty simple |
| 09:32.58 | cladhaire | well.. the basic logic at least :P |
| 09:33.04 | cladhaire | LH has to do a bunch of other things in that case. |
| 09:33.07 | Daedals | as simple as making it movable? |
| 09:33.54 | cladhaire | yeah, basically |
| 09:33.57 | cladhaire | make a handle |
| 09:34.02 | cladhaire | ondragstart/ondragstop |
| 09:34.29 | cladhaire | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/StartSizing |
| 09:34.52 | cladhaire | instead of StartMoving |
| 09:35.24 | Daedals | kk |
| 09:35.27 | Daedals | thanks |
| 09:36.06 | Daedals | im looking at lightheaded now |
| 09:36.57 | KriLL3 | near 1k ping on wow atm, that's really nice for a feral druid... |
| 09:37.03 | KriLL3 | hello range bug! |
| 09:37.22 | KriLL3 | need to run in front of ppl... |
| 09:38.39 | cladhaire | Daedals: on second thought i probbaly handle things manually in LH.. don't remember.. let me know if you don't get it tho |
| 09:39.06 | Daedals | I try something :) |
| 09:39.27 | Daedals | hmm I need some nice resize grip thing image |
| 09:39.44 | cladhaire | you can use that one |
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| 09:43.28 | cladhaire | woot |
| 09:43.31 | cladhaire | Orb of Deception |
| 09:44.21 | sb | hmm grats |
| 09:44.37 | cladhaire | yay for grinding in silithus |
| 09:44.39 | ccKep | wtb bloodelf disguise from MGT ^.^ |
| 09:45.00 | sb | grinding in silithus? wtf?? :p |
| 09:45.11 | Aiiane | oh is that what they're calling it these days ccKep ;) |
| 09:45.17 | Aiiane | "disguise" |
| 09:45.38 | Groktar | oops |
| 09:45.41 | Groktar | i can't count |
| 09:45.44 | Groktar | did 26 dailies |
| 09:45.45 | Groktar | :/ |
| 09:45.51 | Lanerra | Just out of curiosity, do most of you guys play with Friendly Player names off? |
| 09:46.04 | cladhaire | i'm leveling sb |
| 09:46.04 | Aiiane | nop |
| 09:46.14 | Aiiane | I play with all names on except mine |
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| 09:46.20 | Lanerra | Hmmm... |
| 09:46.21 | sb | cladhaire: what level? |
| 09:46.24 | cladhaire | 59 |
| 09:46.30 | cladhaire | just finished writing a speedometer/odometer |
| 09:46.31 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 09:46.39 | sb | 59? why not going to outland? |
| 09:46.47 | cladhaire | no rush |
| 09:46.55 | cladhaire | i still have a ton to do here |
| 09:47.00 | cladhaire | gonna go at 60 |
| 09:47.19 | Groktar | i did 40 mans with nameplates turned off |
| 09:47.23 | Groktar | but doesn't matter so much anymore |
| 09:48.36 | Lanerra | Yeah, I'm probably going to just disable Friendly names when I'm raiding |
| 09:48.45 | Lanerra | Since I don't exactly have to worry about anyone but me |
| 09:48.51 | Arrowmaster | i have titles disabled |
| 09:49.01 | Arrowmaster | but friendly names on when raiding |
| 09:49.09 | Arrowmaster | actually all the time |
| 09:49.18 | ccKep | turned that off all the time here |
| 09:50.27 | Groktar | http://guild-impulse.net/download/file.php?id=77&t=1 |
| 09:50.31 | Neya | both friendly and hostile names turned off, unless I pvp then hostile are on. |
| 09:50.33 | Groktar | wheeeee |
| 09:50.57 | Lanerra | That is one tiny screenshot |
| 09:51.07 | Groktar | doh |
| 09:51.10 | Groktar | http://guild-impulse.net/download/file.php?id=77&mode=view |
| 09:51.12 | ccKep | you're playing on a DS, ain't ya? :D |
| 09:51.20 | Groktar | <- bad |
| 09:51.30 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 09:51.39 | cladhaire | my speedometer doesn't disable itself when you zone |
| 09:51.45 | cladhaire | i just travelled 20k yards :P |
| 09:51.50 | cladhaire | it was fun watching the dials go |
| 09:52.15 | Groktar | 26 dailies as 20/41 |
| 09:52.15 | Groktar | raar |
| 09:54.44 | Orionshock | Groktar: ... bored? |
| 09:55.00 | Groktar | ya |
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| 09:55.10 | Groktar | i did that after i fished for 3 hours |
| 09:55.18 | Orionshock | shameless plug :D http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7798-SickOfClickingDailies.html |
| 09:55.20 | Groktar | raid was cancelled tonight |
| 09:55.54 | Groktar | installed |
| 09:56.02 | Orionshock | ^.- |
| 09:56.28 | Orionshock | can u think of any improvements? |
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| 09:56.41 | Groktar | oh, i meant that i just now installed it |
| 09:56.47 | Orionshock | ah |
| 09:57.12 | Groktar | nobody will sell me t6 gloves |
| 09:57.13 | Groktar | :( |
| 09:57.27 | KriLL3 | just had 55 addons update in WAU, coincidence or has something been changed in ace? |
| 09:57.42 | Orionshock | KriLL3: do u use embeded ? |
| 09:57.51 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 09:58.09 | Diao | did your guild stop doing hyjal Groktar? |
| 09:58.14 | Groktar | ya |
| 09:58.21 | Diao | ah |
| 09:58.24 | Orionshock | KriLL3: default setup in WAU or a custom one? |
| 09:58.27 | Groktar | we still do bt every once in a while |
| 09:58.34 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79598 10CombatAlarm/ (CombatAlarm.lua CombatAlarm.toc): CombatAlarm: Attempt to lower cpu usage. It's still too high. |
| 09:58.38 | Diao | so you're only selling t6 bt pieces? |
| 09:58.41 | Groktar | ya |
| 09:58.44 | Groktar | well |
| 09:58.46 | KriLL3 | Orionshock: not really sure, might have changed something |
| 09:58.47 | Diao | ah ok |
| 09:58.58 | Groktar | we don't need anymore t6 tokens in sunwell atm |
| 09:59.04 | Diao | oh |
| 09:59.05 | Groktar | so we might sell bracers/belts |
| 09:59.08 | Diao | :O |
| 09:59.12 | Diao | i'll need those.. when i hit 70 |
| 09:59.19 | Diao | but i don't think you can carry, so i'd have to get pve geared first :( |
| 09:59.20 | KriLL3 | "automatic dependency download" is turned off and "default mode with externals" is on |
| 09:59.31 | Groktar | we do shoulders/legs for 4k and chests for 6k |
| 09:59.37 | Groktar | i dunno what sunwell tokens would cost |
| 09:59.40 | cncfanatics | yes, ace2 got a fix for wotlk |
| 09:59.47 | Lanerra | ...you can sell Tier Tokens..? |
| 09:59.50 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:59.52 | cncfanatics | taking silly amounts of bandwidth :p |
| 09:59.53 | Diao | bring the person to the raid |
| 09:59.55 | Diao | and carry them |
| 10:00.03 | Diao | when token drops, loot to them for the gold :p |
| 10:00.26 | Lanerra | Nice |
| 10:00.29 | KriLL3 | nice that in wotlk mounts and pets are in their own menu instead of items in your bags, tabards would also be nice if they changed like that |
| 10:00.31 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: you didnt notice the 2 wotlk fixes it got 10 days prior to mine? |
| 10:00.34 | KriLL3 | I got a million tabards |
| 10:00.51 | sb | Diao: mhh - then dont bring such people to brutallus or twins :p |
| 10:01.03 | Diao | well obviously |
| 10:01.09 | Groktar | it's nice never paying for repairs |
| 10:01.10 | Diao | but generally when you're selling the token |
| 10:01.13 | Orionshock | KriLL3: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8542.0 |
| 10:01.36 | Diao | how much gear would you say i'd have to get before going into sunwell if you were to sell tokens from there? |
| 10:01.42 | Orionshock | i'd recommend that if ur running ~20+ WoWAce addons, u use disembedded libs, saves bandwidth :D |
| 10:01.45 | Diao | i can farm gear pretty easily |
| 10:01.56 | Diao | just that doing heroics for badge gear is boring :P |
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| 10:02.26 | grzesieq | Diao, what class are you? |
| 10:02.37 | Diao | rogue |
| 10:02.46 | Diao | well, my main is a warrior in a raiding guild on horde |
| 10:02.51 | Diao | this is my alliance alt |
| 10:02.52 | Diao | :P |
| 10:02.55 | grzesieq | oh |
| 10:03.11 | Diao | i don't have time to actually app to a raiding guild/gear up |
| 10:03.13 | Diao | and nobody wants rogues |
| 10:03.14 | grzesieq | well, warriors are easier to drag through sunwell i think |
| 10:03.20 | Diao | especially since i am GM of my guild :p |
| 10:03.37 | Diao | i just need 4p t6 on my rogue |
| 10:03.39 | Diao | for arena :) |
| 10:03.46 | Diao | and my friend needs 2p t6 on his druid alt |
| 10:03.51 | grzesieq | oh |
| 10:04.03 | KriLL3 | Orionshock: what option is that I should turn on/off? |
| 10:04.11 | grzesieq | you want 4 of both sets or just 4 t6? |
| 10:04.43 | Diao | 4 t6, 4 arena |
| 10:04.44 | Orionshock | well if what u have works, keep it, but if u understand that thread and how to switch to disembedded then i'd recommend it |
| 10:04.51 | Diao | so i need the 3 sunwell tokens + shouldres |
| 10:05.20 | KriLL3 | Orionshock: oh didn't see the link |
| 10:05.44 | grzesieq | might be hard to buy tbh |
| 10:05.57 | Diao | groktar's guild is selling the shoulders at least |
| 10:06.07 | grzesieq | I mean, dragging undergeared people through sunwell can be hard |
| 10:06.09 | Diao | and he was just mentioning how they might start selling sw |
| 10:06.12 | Diao | i know |
| 10:06.17 | Diao | that's why i said i would need to farm badge gear |
| 10:06.19 | grzesieq | otoh, we have some slacking retards some days |
| 10:06.26 | Diao | i've researched everything |
| 10:06.30 | Diao | and i know how to play |
| 10:06.36 | ccKep | depends on how progressed the guild is |
| 10:06.40 | grzesieq | like, me outdpsing people as malediction bitch :P |
| 10:06.49 | Diao | well |
| 10:06.57 | Diao | let's put it this way |
| 10:07.00 | ccKep | the first 3 encounters can pretty much 20manned when they're overgeared |
| 10:07.12 | Diao | i know how to play pretty much any class perfectly |
| 10:07.36 | Diao | so as long as i get the gear, i can keep up |
| 10:07.41 | grzesieq | Diao, you can also get saved to the instance, make them do it without you and then ask a gm to transfer items |
| 10:07.48 | sb | you mean like... "1" "1" "1" "1", "2", "1",...? |
| 10:07.50 | Diao | will that actually work? |
| 10:07.54 | Diao | i think we tried that once |
| 10:07.59 | Diao | and the raid id was correct |
| 10:08.02 | grzesieq | i think they check only the IDs |
| 10:08.05 | Diao | but the gm said the person wasn't in the raid |
| 10:08.09 | Diao | and wouldn't transfer it :( |
| 10:08.12 | grzesieq | hmz |
| 10:08.29 | grzesieq | we had a warrior in for some brut tries, then decided to go with 2 druid tanks |
| 10:08.37 | grzesieq | and noone wanted the neck |
| 10:08.45 | grzesieq | so someone took it and made a ticket to transfer |
| 10:08.47 | grzesieq | and it worked |
| 10:08.50 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:08.52 | Diao | us servers? |
| 10:08.56 | grzesieq | eu |
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| 10:08.59 | Diao | ah |
| 10:09.01 | Diao | i play on us :P |
| 10:09.02 | ccKep | just go with them, die instantly if you're undergeared so you don't cause trouble and get the item.. might cost some gold though |
| 10:09.03 | Orionshock | that's why |
| 10:09.12 | Diao | well |
| 10:09.15 | Diao | i never cause trouble |
| 10:09.17 | Diao | :p |
| 10:09.25 | Diao | and i think my dps contribution, no matter how bad |
| 10:09.27 | Diao | would be better than nothing |
| 10:10.41 | grzesieq | well worst thing you could do is to drag the beam through on felmyst |
| 10:10.55 | KriLL3 | is there a way to know what addons cause the longest time added at the start? |
| 10:11.05 | KriLL3 | takes ages to login atm |
| 10:11.29 | Lanerra | Damn it all...I want to try and make this new module for Chinchilla, but I've no idea where to even start |
| 10:11.31 | Diao | anything that has large savedvars i think |
| 10:11.34 | Diao | since it has to load it all |
| 10:11.51 | Lanerra | I know I have to make an entry in the modules.xml, have to do the bit of code that lets Chinchilla know there's a new module...but ugh |
| 10:12.06 | Orionshock | KriLL3: no real way to know... it's mostly a guess |
| 10:12.25 | KriLL3 | Diao: like auctioneer? |
| 10:12.28 | Diao | yeah |
| 10:12.34 | Lanerra | Didn't p3lim right a program that calculated load time for individual addons? |
| 10:12.42 | Lanerra | Write an addon, rather |
| 10:12.45 | Diao | there was one a while ago |
| 10:12.46 | Neya | do like I did to figure it out how Lanerra, copy one of the modules that fit your needs and rename it to its own name and stort modifying the code, that's one way to learn. |
| 10:12.47 | KriLL3 | I wish you could set it go get amnesia after logging out |
| 10:12.48 | Diao | called warmup i think |
| 10:13.17 | Lanerra | Thanks, Neya, I guess I'll start there |
| 10:13.34 | KriLL3 | I'd much prefer to re-scan items I'm selling on the AH when I sell them than have a huge db of everything I've ever seen on there and their prices |
| 10:13.34 | Lanerra | And yes, it was called Warmup, and it disabled itself after running so it wouldn't run again on the next reload/relog |
| 10:14.20 | Arrowmaster | because to work it has to taint LoadAddOn() meaning the blizzard raid frames get tainted |
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| 10:15.22 | Fisker- | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:16.53 | Diao | oh that reminds me |
| 10:17.05 | Diao | is there any way to run auldlangsyne_info without tainting raid |
| 10:17.14 | Diao | it's annoying having to disable it every time i raid |
| 10:17.18 | Diao | since i swap people around in combat sometimes |
| 10:17.21 | Arrowmaster | it taints? |
| 10:17.25 | Diao | yeah |
| 10:17.31 | Diao | no clue why |
| 10:17.47 | Arrowmaster | did it even get updated for the social frame changes? |
| 10:18.25 | Diao | dunno, but it taints the note icon thing as well |
| 10:18.53 | Arrowmaster | it creates one |
| 10:19.05 | Groktar | heh, a mage applied to my guild |
| 10:19.06 | Arrowmaster | but i think somehow it messes up the new one that blizz added a while back |
| 10:19.09 | Diao | yeah |
| 10:19.11 | Groktar | he's horde |
| 10:19.13 | Diao | lol |
| 10:19.17 | Diao | we've had that happen Groktar |
| 10:19.20 | Groktar | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=G%C3%B8dly |
| 10:19.25 | Diao | people apply and they're on alliance on a completely different server |
| 10:19.26 | Diao | oh |
| 10:19.31 | Diao | on the same server even o_o |
| 10:19.32 | Groktar | 375 tailoring and no spellfire... |
| 10:19.50 | Diao | visualthemes also taints for some reason, even though it doesn't affect the social window |
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| 10:20.33 | Groktar | mmm i really need to do something about my windows install |
| 10:20.42 | Lanerra | Yeah, VisualThemes has been a bit wonky lately I noticed |
| 10:20.52 | Groktar | explorer has a tendency to crash when i browse folders |
| 10:20.53 | Groktar | :( |
| 10:21.06 | Lanerra | Just do a repair install |
| 10:21.19 | Arrowmaster | get process explorer |
| 10:21.37 | Arrowmaster | its like taskmanager but better |
| 10:21.39 | Diao | isn't process explorer just a replacement for TM |
| 10:21.40 | Fisker- | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:21.43 | Groktar | ya, that's what i was thinking Lanerra |
| 10:21.58 | Groktar | yeah, and that wouldn't really help me too much diao |
| 10:22.00 | Arrowmaster | click on explorer.exe and figure out what dlls and such are loaded into explorer |
| 10:22.07 | Groktar | since task manager works fine |
| 10:22.07 | Groktar | o |
| 10:23.40 | Arrowmaster | i dont know why but explorer.exe tends to pickup the weirdest dll's |
| 10:23.45 | Cheads | tm won't tell you which dlls is loaded by explorer.exe etc. |
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| 10:24.01 | Cheads | process explorer is so much better =) |
| 10:24.07 | Groktar | is looking |
| 10:24.23 | Diao | yeah it is |
| 10:24.25 | Groktar | and how do i see which dlls are loaded? |
| 10:24.49 | Arrowmaster | its the entire bottom half of the window |
| 10:24.57 | Arrowmaster | or atleast it is on mine |
| 10:24.58 | Groktar | there we go |
| 10:25.06 | Groktar | ya, it wasn't toggled on my default |
| 10:25.08 | Arrowmaster | not sure if ive changed the default settings |
| 10:25.59 | Groktar | well it's just a button in the bar across the top |
| 10:26.46 | Arrowmaster | see if youve got some really weird non microsoft stuff listed |
| 10:26.57 | Arrowmaster | although thats not really uncommon |
| 10:26.59 | Groktar | wth is _tbl_simple.so |
| 10:27.07 | Arrowmaster | .so? lol |
| 10:27.23 | Arrowmaster | mouseover the name and youll get the full path |
| 10:27.33 | Groktar | oh |
| 10:27.36 | Groktar | cool |
| 10:27.39 | Groktar | tortoise svn |
| 10:27.40 | Groktar | lol |
| 10:27.50 | Arrowmaster | eh |
| 10:28.12 | Arrowmaster | i refuse to use tortoise svn because of how it hooks into explorer |
| 10:28.27 | Groktar | orly? |
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| 10:28.48 | Arrowmaster | i doubt thats your problem though |
| 10:29.26 | Groktar | there's a shitload here |
| 10:29.53 | Lanerra | Uh oh... |
| 10:29.59 | Lanerra | WoW is now crashing when I do a reloadui |
| 10:30.07 | Lanerra | Invalid Memory Block |
| 10:30.15 | Groktar | blames Arrowmaster |
| 10:30.18 | Arrowmaster | also a shitload of microsoft dlls that you wouldnt think it would use |
| 10:31.07 | Groktar | i'm just looking at non-microsoft ones |
| 10:31.43 | Groktar | i see something from adobe, cuteftp, and tortoise svn |
| 10:31.48 | Groktar | everything else is microsoft |
| 10:32.01 | Arrowmaster | i have a ton of media codec stuff in mine |
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| 10:37.14 | Groktar | oh well; it's really not that big a deal |
| 10:37.30 | Groktar | since it usually only happens when i have used it in a while |
| 10:37.45 | Groktar | and then i can do whatever i need to and not have it crash again |
| 10:40.15 | Groktar | or i can just blame it on my computer, and use that as an excuse to upgrade |
| 10:40.22 | Groktar | :D |
| 10:42.10 | Groktar | kinda need more disk space, too |
| 10:42.18 | Groktar | my paltry 1tb is almost full |
| 10:42.18 | Groktar | :( |
| 10:42.24 | KriLL3 | what's the cmd command to see all current cons? |
| 10:42.44 | KriLL3 | Groktar: I got 2.3 and it's almost full :< |
| 10:43.21 | Groktar | hehe |
| 10:43.31 | Groktar | as soon as you start downloading anything in hdtv |
| 10:43.39 | Groktar | all space goes buh-bye |
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| 10:44.15 | harldephin | why does "/petattack [target=mouseover,nodead,harm,exists]" not work in a macro, though it does when i just do it manually..? |
| 10:44.30 | Ellipsis | blame gnomes |
| 10:47.23 | Groktar | blames Ellipsis |
| 10:47.59 | harldephin | not even "/petattack mouseover" does work anymore.. wtf? |
| 10:48.17 | Groktar | you mean /petattack [target=mouseover] ? |
| 10:48.24 | harldephin | which is the same, yes |
| 10:48.30 | Groktar | orly? |
| 10:48.45 | Jygga | hi, when i click any bg master i get auto enqeued, looks like the capping "Queue: joining bg x in 1:40" but capping is not even loaded Oo |
| 10:48.55 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r79599 10CastYeller/embeds.xml: CastYeller: typo in embeds.xml. |
| 10:49.00 | harldephin | if you add ,nodead,harm,whatever then put it in brackets and add target= |
| 10:49.04 | Jygga | is there any way to track which addon is causing that? |
| 10:49.25 | Jygga | disabled anything related to bgs, reloaded and still ... |
| 10:49.27 | harldephin | if you just want to target mouseover, /petattack mouseover is suffice |
| 10:50.31 | harldephin | but what's the point in having a /petattack command if it's not usable in a macro.. really.. it's like wearing sunglasses at night.. kinda stupid |
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| 10:51.37 | harldephin | i don't get it. i can execute that same macro using an action bar button, but not a mouse button? |
| 10:51.59 | Groktar | let me see |
| 10:52.04 | Neya | it work as expected for me. |
| 10:54.17 | harldephin | there's got to be something wrong with the script for my mouse button then.. |
| 10:54.49 | Groktar | macro works fine |
| 10:55.01 | harldephin | ok |
| 10:55.13 | Groktar | i have one of the buttons on my bars bound to mouse 4 |
| 10:55.18 | Groktar | put the macro there and it works great |
| 10:55.33 | KriLL3 | 8/42/11 druid lacking thick hide in feral tree in full kodohide blues sans gems + greens, wtf?... |
| 10:57.07 | Groktar | sounds like a winner |
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| 10:57.28 | Gnarfoz | terribad goes BT |
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| 10:58.56 | theoddone33 | I was looking at wowinsider for some reason today |
| 10:59.03 | theoddone33 | and I saw that they have a "gearing for kara" guide |
| 10:59.10 | theoddone33 | which is kind of amusing |
| 10:59.20 | theoddone33 | but I guess some casual people would need it |
| 10:59.48 | KriLL3 | theoddone33: let me guess, it wanted you to do 5 man quests for blues etc? |
| 10:59.56 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 11:00.02 | theoddone33 | I didn't read it, but I'm guessing that's it |
| 11:00.09 | theoddone33 | "run instances" |
| 11:00.11 | KriLL3 | better at this point to get merciless |
| 11:00.21 | theoddone33 | depends on your spec I suppose |
| 11:00.22 | KriLL3 | and some hc stuff |
| 11:00.27 | harldephin | guess i can't use button5 in-game then. bound num/ to the same button with the same script and it works |
| 11:00.31 | theoddone33 | but yeah most people can get away with s2 in kara |
| 11:00.33 | theoddone33 | and do pretty well |
| 11:00.42 | Gnarfoz | harldephin: depends entirely on your mouse drivers :\ |
| 11:00.49 | Gnarfoz | I can use mouse1-5, but not 6-8 |
| 11:00.56 | theoddone33 | I dunno, nightbane with 2 healers in s2 could be weird |
| 11:01.02 | Gnarfoz | for 6-8, I have to map them to keystrokes ;\ |
| 11:01.11 | KriLL3 | I can use all my 8 mouse buttons + tilt but that's because I've bound em to different keys |
| 11:01.29 | Gnarfoz | like I said =\ |
| 11:01.29 | KriLL3 | and some drivers lets you change the buttons depending on the active app |
| 11:01.48 | Gnarfoz | that, too, but for some reason wow doesn't wanna recognize anything over mouse5 |
| 11:01.49 | Gnarfoz | =\ |
| 11:01.57 | KriLL3 | my tilt is ctrl+c & ctrl+v works ingame :> |
| 11:02.05 | Gnarfoz | also, is EU login slow for anyone else? |
| 11:02.13 | KriLL3 | yeah it was |
| 11:02.21 | KriLL3 | I stopped it and logged in again and got in |
| 11:02.52 | harldephin | about 2 hours from now it's been slow, but not a few minutes ago anymore |
| 11:02.54 | KriLL3 | usually helps if it gets stuck to try again |
| 11:04.06 | harldephin | i guess restarting wow might help too. in case the sockets got stuck or whatever |
| 11:04.24 | KriLL3 | naw |
| 11:04.37 | Gnarfoz | lately, I've seen so many #134 (and other ones) errors from wow that only occur because my box was in standby before |
| 11:04.45 | Gnarfoz | they should really take a look at that ;\ |
| 11:04.52 | KriLL3 | turn off standby |
| 11:05.04 | Gnarfoz | fails @ decompressing MPQs, reading models, textures, etc, sometimes even at creating a socket oO |
| 11:05.15 | Gnarfoz | hm, how about: standby works for everything else, just not wow |
| 11:05.16 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 11:05.31 | Gnarfoz | (obviously WoW wasn't even running when it entered standby) |
| 11:05.58 | harldephin | same here, even without standby. though hibernate does work |
| 11:06.17 | KriLL3 | sounds like a borked install |
| 11:06.26 | Gnarfoz | definitely not |
| 11:06.33 | harldephin | nope |
| 11:06.33 | Gnarfoz | because just rebooting 'fixes' it |
| 11:06.54 | Gnarfoz | although I have, out of frustration, reinstalled it or repaired it before |
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| 11:07.19 | Gnarfoz | it might be something like bad SATA drivers or what the hell do I know, I don't know how this could technically be WoW's own fault |
| 11:07.23 | harldephin | and it's random. one day i get 5 errors and then nonthing for weeks |
| 11:07.35 | harldephin | *nothing |
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| 11:10.31 | CIA-45 | 03isler * r79601 10InFlight_Load/InFlight_Load.lua: |
| 11:10.32 | CIA-45 | InFlight_Load |
| 11:10.32 | CIA-45 | - zhCN update |
| 11:13.00 | KriLL3 | it could be a HDD issue, since on standby the contents of your ram is put on your HDD then back again when it exits standby, if something isn't correct after being copied it would require a restart to fix |
| 11:14.54 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 11:15.01 | Gnarfoz | on standby, my ram content is not put on my hdd |
| 11:15.05 | Gnarfoz | that's hibernation |
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| 11:22.09 | Lanerra | You know, back when I had 2GB of RAM I only used about 37% RAM with WoW running...now I'm using ~50% |
| 11:22.14 | Lanerra | And I hav 4GB of RAM now |
| 11:24.38 | charon | discounting caches and buffers? |
| 11:24.57 | Lanerra | Beg your pardon?> |
| 11:26.07 | CIA-45 | 03Copystring * r79602 10Barrel/Config.lua: |
| 11:26.07 | CIA-45 | Barrel: |
| 11:26.07 | CIA-45 | - added profile selection |
| 11:26.13 | charon | at least on *nix, the canonical "memory used" number includes everything allocated by the OS for caching (disk mostly) and buffers (IO? don't really know) |
| 11:26.33 | KriLL3 | is there a way to see your regular party while in a bg raid? |
| 11:27.28 | Lanerra | To be honest, I'm not sure |
| 11:28.57 | harldephin | good to know i'm not teh only one with a dorky mouse driver |
| 11:29.01 | harldephin | *the |
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| 11:44.43 | Lanerra | Does anyone here have a Logitech G7 Laser mouse and it wigs out on you? Randomly stops working, sometimes double-right clicks when you right click, things like that? |
| 11:53.11 | Fisker- | nope |
| 11:53.23 | Fisker- | i.e. doesn't happen here |
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| 12:00.29 | KriLL3 | my MX1000 is starting to flake out on me, the left click trigger is most likely semi broken from wear and tear over the last 5~ years, often makes single clicks into double clicks |
| 12:01.00 | Ellipsis | the heck are you people doing to your mice? I've never had a logitech die on me :P |
| 12:01.07 | cladhaire | QuickHealth_oUF? |
| 12:01.12 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: well clicking for a couple of years... |
| 12:01.25 | KriLL3 | the microswitch inside will wear down at some point |
| 12:01.58 | Ellipsis | I gamed with an MX700 for 4-5 years and never had an issue (same body as the G7, and I can't imagine logitech has actually made the click mechanism WORSE since that model...) |
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| 12:02.11 | Synthetic | hiya! |
| 12:02.27 | cladhaire | ZOMG HAI! |
| 12:02.31 | Ellipsis | o hai~ |
| 12:02.38 | cladhaire | hugs Ellipsis |
| 12:02.53 | Synthetic | im looking for a shopping list addon which i can put the mats i need from my main and then send it to my bank alt |
| 12:02.54 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 12:02.55 | Synthetic | think away |
| 12:02.58 | Ellipsis | tickles cladhaire |
| 12:03.06 | JoshBorke | Synthetic: look up LootTracker on wowi |
| 12:03.07 | cladhaire | i'm soooo hungry |
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| 12:03.11 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: you should eat |
| 12:03.13 | Ellipsis | offers a cookie? |
| 12:03.15 | cladhaire | i can't |
| 12:03.18 | cladhaire | i'm fasting =( |
| 12:03.23 | Synthetic | think faster. |
| 12:03.25 | JoshBorke | you should drink water? |
| 12:03.29 | Synthetic | == |
| 12:03.31 | Synthetic | obey me? |
| 12:03.42 | cladhaire | indeed, i should drink water |
| 12:03.43 | JoshBorke | Synthetic: did you look up LootTracker? |
| 12:03.45 | Ellipsis | fasting for what, might I ask? |
| 12:04.06 | cladhaire | colonoscopy |
| 12:04.19 | Ellipsis | sounds rather unpleasant |
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| 12:04.40 | cladhaire | so sister was diagnosed with colono-rectal cancer at the age of 32, so I'm being screened to avoid similar issues. |
| 12:04.58 | cladhaire | considering how rare it is to see someone under the age of 50 with it |
| 12:05.17 | Synthetic | thanks Josh thats exactlly what i was after |
| 12:05.26 | JoshBorke | Synthetic: i know, that's why i wrote it ;-) |
| 12:05.32 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: eew. |
| 12:05.41 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: :-( |
| 12:05.44 | Synthetic | i see :) |
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| 12:05.45 | Ellipsis | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 12:05.45 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on JoshBorke's head |
| 12:05.50 | Synthetic | what i was about to say is |
| 12:05.55 | JoshBorke | someone should give me a patch that lets it use the blizzard interface options instead of OH |
| 12:05.56 | Synthetic | can i find an alternative :D |
| 12:06.03 | cladhaire | my name is josh.. i'ms o cool |
| 12:06.05 | Synthetic | its outdated |
| 12:06.43 | JoshBorke | change the toc number and it will work |
| 12:07.18 | Ellipsis | but JoshBorke *is* cool |
| 12:07.25 | cladhaire | svn://svn.wowinterface.com/Dashboard-169/trunk |
| 12:07.29 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: liar |
| 12:07.29 | cladhaire | people shoudl download and play |
| 12:07.52 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: i want to import my old personal svn into a wowi one |
| 12:07.55 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: how i do? |
| 12:08.02 | cladhaire | get me a dump file |
| 12:08.04 | cladhaire | or let me mirror your personal svn |
| 12:08.07 | cladhaire | then its easy |
| 12:08.16 | cladhaire | make the project/svn and let me know, so I can do the import. |
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| 12:08.53 | cladhaire | technically, you want to filter the transactions you used to create /trunk, etc. if you did |
| 12:08.55 | Ellipsis | bah, you people and your ocd...who cares if you lose a few historical commits :P |
| 12:08.56 | cladhaire | but i can filter those out. |
| 12:09.02 | Synthetic | lf shopping list addon thatll work between characters |
| 12:09.08 | Synthetic | == |
| 12:09.32 | JoshBorke | Synthetic: did you even try LootTracker? |
| 12:09.52 | JoshBorke | hm, my svn tgz had a acesvn backup in it |
| 12:09.53 | JoshBorke | woops |
| 12:10.43 | CIA-45 | 03jerry * r79603 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add expertise in deDE. |
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| 12:13.26 | Synthetic | its a year out of date? |
| 12:13.35 | cladhaire | wow. |
| 12:13.41 | cladhaire | he told you to update the .toc file. |
| 12:13.43 | cladhaire | and it works just fine. |
| 12:13.47 | Synthetic | i know. |
| 12:13.54 | JoshBorke | sighs |
| 12:14.01 | Synthetic | but, its still outdated. |
| 12:14.12 | cladhaire | are you serious? |
| 12:14.12 | Arrowmaster | define outdated |
| 12:14.25 | JoshBorke | and off the top of my head I can't think of any addons that do what it does exactly |
| 12:14.38 | Synthetic | it could interfer with other addons. |
| 12:14.43 | Stan_ | ..not |
| 12:14.45 | JoshBorke | it doesn't |
| 12:14.46 | Arrowmaster | no it couldnt |
| 12:15.03 | JoshBorke | i wrote the gd thing, i'm not some half-wit addon coder who doesn't consider interactions between addons |
| 12:15.11 | JoshBorke | i didn't hook anything |
| 12:15.44 | JoshBorke | no wait, i did hook stuff |
| 12:15.47 | Synthetic | ill give it a look |
| 12:15.49 | JoshBorke | so it could potentially break stuff |
| 12:15.54 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 12:15.57 | Ellipsis | someone needs a spanking |
| 12:15.57 | Synthetic | if were all so keen |
| 12:15.58 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 12:16.09 | JoshBorke | and i'm going to update it so that it doesn't say 'outdated' |
| 12:16.10 | JoshBorke | GAH |
| 12:16.19 | Ellipsis | way to give in to the users, JoshBorke |
| 12:16.30 | Synthetic | fans raor |
| 12:16.31 | cladhaire | but.. its outdated! |
| 12:16.33 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: i'll also use the opportunity to rewrite the options screen |
| 12:16.45 | Ellipsis | let them edit their darn tocs themselves! in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow, barefoot, just to get our addons.... |
| 12:16.53 | Arrowmaster | lets hope he atleast looks over it again and makes sure it wont need updated when WotLK comes out |
| 12:17.20 | JoshBorke | but that means i'd need a beta account... |
| 12:17.27 | JoshBorke | i didn't even put my name in the hat for one |
| 12:17.37 | Ellipsis | ...fail |
| 12:17.52 | Arrowmaster | ive been updating stuff for WotLK and i dont even have a beta account yet |
| 12:19.14 | Arrowmaster | and i know its too early right now but im going to check my email anyway just so my spam folder doesnt have as much stuff later |
| 12:20.30 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: so, my personal repo had the project nested, ie trunk/<project>/, how i get the history just for the project? |
| 12:20.43 | cladhaire | svndumpfilter |
| 12:21.24 | JoshBorke | ah, cool, thanks :-D |
| 12:24.45 | JoshBorke | wow, that went terribly |
| 12:27.00 | JoshBorke | ok clad, i have a dump file for it :-D |
| 12:27.05 | JoshBorke | feels so smart |
| 12:27.11 | JoshBorke | i can read help documents! |
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| 12:42.37 | harldephin | eu login dead? |
| 12:42.41 | harldephin | again? |
| 12:47.53 | harldephin | or is it just me (who's dead).. |
| 12:48.01 | Lukian | Omen doesn't work very well on nightbane |
| 12:48.14 | Lukian | I pulled threat without even hitting the 90% threshold right at the end |
| 12:48.37 | harldephin | login's back *cheers* |
| 12:50.37 | markus_ | any map coord. mod that works with wotlk ? |
| 12:51.26 | yoshimo | lukian , how can we help if the only thing we get is " it doesnt work" ? ;) |
| 12:53.04 | Lukian | yoshimo, from what I've seen (as the tank) |
| 12:53.21 | Lukian | he resets aggro after he lands, whereas recount resets it earlier |
| 12:53.26 | Lukian | omen* |
| 12:54.04 | Lukian | to be safe, it should probably only record threat after nightbanes first hostile attack (after landing) |
| 12:56.53 | Gnarfoz | markus_: Chinchilla works fine, although that's a complete minimap mod |
| 12:57.08 | markus_ | hmm ok sounds fine ;P |
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| 13:01.16 | Ellipsis | ponders how exactly a coordinate mod could break in wotlk |
| 13:03.57 | cladhaire | zones can be added and change shape |
| 13:04.06 | cladhaire | but tomtom should work, imo |
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| 13:06.33 | markus_ | well alot of addons are broken |
| 13:06.44 | markus_ | the tourguide gui is completely broken |
| 13:06.50 | markus_ | some nil value errors all over |
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| 13:10.19 | kagaro | cladhaire: Ive already calced the new zone sizes (dont have my key yet to verify them) |
| 13:10.34 | cladhaire | nice :P |
| 13:10.42 | kagaro | if you need them |
| 13:10.49 | cladhaire | nah i'm fine |
| 13:10.53 | cladhaire | esamynn might |
| 13:11.43 | kagaro | once i get my key and verify them, ill pm then over |
| 13:11.55 | KriLL3 | should I get [Angelista's Revenge] or [Dory's Embrace] first? :< got [Vindicator's Band of Triumph] [Shapeshifter's Signet] & [Blood Knight War Cloak] |
| 13:14.49 | Jyggaa | err can i somehow change the keyboard layout ingame? |
| 13:16.02 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 13:16.17 | KriLL3 | if you mean keybinds... |
| 13:16.30 | KriLL3 | you can change the layout of your keyboard buy hitting shift 3 times in a row on windows |
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| 13:17.00 | KriLL3 | you can disable/enable that in the language/region options |
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| 13:18.55 | mib_8f3q7g | How can I dump the _G table? |
| 13:19.29 | cladhaire | do I keep my orb of Deception? |
| 13:20.15 | cladhaire | mib_8f3q7g: you don't want to, why? |
| 13:21.02 | mib_8f3q7g | need to find a variable |
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| 13:21.26 | mib_8f3q7g | CLASS_FILTERS stores the auction house categories, want to figure out where the subcategories get stored |
| 13:21.39 | Jygga | KriLL3 its just ingame |
| 13:21.53 | cladhaire | mib_8f3q7g: they all come from API |
| 13:21.56 | cladhaire | not from that table. |
| 13:21.56 | KriLL3 | Jygga: no it's a windows feature |
| 13:22.11 | Jygga | well i got my default keyboard layout here |
| 13:22.14 | mib_8f3q7g | cladhaire: they come from that table |
| 13:22.15 | Jygga | but not ingame ^^ |
| 13:22.16 | cladhaire | mib_8f3q7g: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAuctionItemClasses |
| 13:22.18 | mib_8f3q7g | so whatever |
| 13:22.26 | mib_8f3q7g | mib_8f3q7g: doesn't allow me to modify it |
| 13:22.26 | cladhaire | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAuctionItemSubClasses |
| 13:22.33 | cladhaire | really, cause the API says you're wrong. |
| 13:22.34 | mib_8f3q7g | stoü |
| 13:22.38 | mib_8f3q7g | what does it matter |
| 13:22.43 | cladhaire | those two functions are where the auction classes and subclasses come from |
| 13:22.47 | mib_8f3q7g | I don't care about the API |
| 13:22.47 | cladhaire | what does it matter? |
| 13:22.50 | cladhaire | I'm answering your question |
| 13:22.51 | cladhaire | wow, |
| 13:22.54 | mib_8f3q7g | no you're NOT |
| 13:23.28 | cladhaire | jesus christ: /run for k,v in pairs(_G) do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(k) end |
| 13:23.30 | cladhaire | but have fun with that. |
| 13:23.39 | mib_8f3q7g | thanks |
| 13:24.01 | cladhaire | why do people show up in this channel and assume they can demand anything from anyone. Why the sense of entitlement? |
| 13:24.21 | mib_8f3q7g | what the fuck? I kindly asked how to dump the _G table |
| 13:24.28 | mib_8f3q7g | you spam me with shit I don't need |
| 13:24.39 | cladhaire | grats |
| 13:24.40 | Neya | you got what you asked, _G |
| 13:24.40 | cladhaire | have fun with that |
| 13:24.44 | cladhaire | I didn't spam you with shit |
| 13:24.46 | cladhaire | now go away |
| 13:24.49 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.50 | Industrial | mib_8f3q7g: go! |
| 13:25.00 | mib_8f3q7g | yeah you linked me several wowwiki links |
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| 13:25.07 | cladhaire | no, actually they were wowprogramming.com |
| 13:25.08 | mib_8f3q7g | tried to be smart about the API |
| 13:25.08 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.13 | cladhaire | I am smart about the API |
| 13:25.13 | mib_8f3q7g | whatever |
| 13:25.25 | cladhaire | The table you're asking about is populated using the GetAuctionItemClasses() function |
| 13:25.25 | mib_8f3q7g | well I don't give a fuck about the api |
| 13:25.28 | cladhaire | the values are identical |
| 13:25.31 | cladhaire | k k |
| 13:25.36 | cladhaire | have fun! |
| 13:25.38 | mib_8f3q7g | I can modify the table but not the function |
| 13:25.55 | cladhaire | actually you could, but thats okay |
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| 13:27.37 | mib_8f3q7g | you can? |
| 13:27.49 | cladhaire | yep |
| 13:27.53 | cladhaire | and the table you're looking for is OPEN_FILTER_LIST |
| 13:27.55 | cladhaire | however |
| 13:28.04 | cladhaire | it only contains those subclasses that are being shown |
| 13:28.20 | mib_8f3q7g | yeah I know that one |
| 13:28.22 | cladhaire | do you know how I found that? I grepped the source for GetAuctionItemSubClasses.. but who needs the API |
| 13:28.38 | mib_8f3q7g | wow I'm looking at that source right now.... |
| 13:28.38 | mib_8f3q7g | ! |
| 13:28.41 | cladhaire | aye, there's no table like CLASS_FILTERS for subclasses, unfortunately |
| 13:28.46 | cladhaire | zomg congratulations! |
| 13:28.53 | mib_8f3q7g | I'm so proud |
| 13:29.01 | cladhaire | grins |
| 13:29.02 | kagaro | cladhaire: you killing me .. |
| 13:29.13 | cladhaire | ~lart kagaro |
| 13:29.13 | purl | beats kagaro senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 13:29.45 | cladhaire | mib_8f3q7g: can I ask what you're trying to accomplish? There might be a better way to handle things that we could recommend |
| 13:30.11 | mib_8f3q7g | trying to add a new category and a few subitems without copying all the xml stuff |
| 13:30.17 | Ellipsis | offers kagaro some of her popcorn |
| 13:30.29 | Orionshock | hehe, watching ppl argue with cladhaire is funny... |
| 13:30.31 | kagaro | pulls up a chair. |
| 13:30.31 | cladhaire | mib_8f3q7g: your best bet is likely to hook the function, one moment. |
| 13:30.43 | kagaro | and gets out the butter for his popcorn. |
| 13:30.48 | charon | hands around drinks |
| 13:30.55 | mib_8f3q7g | since it was so easy to add a new item to CLASS_FILTERS I thought adding a few subitems will be, well, that easy as well |
| 13:31.49 | cladhaire | nah, sadly |
| 13:31.51 | cladhaire | run this macro |
| 13:32.15 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.31 | cladhaire | that will add a new subcategory "Monkeys" to every major class |
| 13:33.01 | mib_8f3q7g | oh haha |
| 13:33.09 | mib_8f3q7g | That's interesting |
| 13:33.20 | cladhaire | either you have to do it that way |
| 13:33.38 | cladhaire | or securehook GetAuctionItemSubClasses, and then alter the OPEN_FILTER_LIST table when its done returning, but you'd have to delaqy |
| 13:33.50 | cladhaire | so you'd really want to post-hook AuctionFrameFilters_UpdateSubClasses |
| 13:33.51 | mib_8f3q7g | Hmm, I totally forgot that you still have to click "Search" when clicking on one of those... :/ |
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| 13:36.51 | Daedals | has anyone got his/her beta key today? |
| 13:37.15 | mib_8f3q7g | aaaaanyway, thanks cladhaire! :) |
| 13:37.21 | cladhaire | yw |
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| 13:37.47 | Ellipsis | and here I was hoping that one would end in violence |
| 13:38.12 | kagaro | I thought it was gona turn into a throw down |
| 13:38.28 | cladhaire | I just have a problem with people who act like that, it makes me go from 0 to bitch in 0.35 seconds |
| 13:38.35 | kagaro | lols |
| 13:38.50 | yoshimo | daedals i think its too early in irvine to send out the keys ;) |
| 13:38.51 | kagaro | atleast I got a good laugh this morning |
| 13:38.59 | cladhaire | and guess what he needed.. the API functions |
| 13:39.37 | Daedals | well its EU for me, I dunno if they send the EU keys from there too |
| 13:39.41 | Ellipsis | vows never to mess with a hungry cladhaire |
| 13:39.42 | cladhaire | I spent a year of my life writing a book about this fucking game.. I don't talk shit :P |
| 13:39.46 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:39.51 | cladhaire | cladhaire is so hungry |
| 13:39.57 | cladhaire | and my Jello isn't set yet |
| 13:40.12 | Ellipsis | snack on some ice cubes? |
| 13:40.12 | cladhaire | we dont have any |
| 13:40.14 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:40.16 | cladhaire | this country doesn't believe in ice |
| 13:40.48 | cladhaire | i should have bought OJ |
| 13:42.40 | Obelixprime | is there a mod like money_fu or accountant_fu that will work without fubar? |
| 13:42.46 | Orionshock | cladhaire: where are you? Europe |
| 13:42.53 | cladhaire | Oxford, yeah |
| 13:43.08 | Orionshock | ouch... warm beer, eewww |
| 13:43.23 | kagaro | warm beer .. yuck |
| 13:43.29 | MoonWork | hey, not all country serve beer unchilled |
| 13:43.37 | MoonWork | you will get a perfectly fine cold beer here in the netherlands. |
| 13:44.00 | kagaro | I thought germany was the only with warm beer |
| 13:44.11 | Stanzilla | ^not true |
| 13:45.03 | Orionshock | MoonWork: isn't that also the country that ppl can walk around half naked? |
| 13:45.18 | kagaro | dunno, Ive only been to germany, spain, france, italy, ireland, uk |
| 13:45.32 | MoonWork | Orionshock, you can walk around new york topless too |
| 13:45.36 | MoonWork | nothing special there. |
| 13:45.48 | Orionshock | not really, but point taken.. |
| 13:45.49 | cladhaire | the dutchlands served deliciously cold beer too |
| 13:45.55 | Obelixprime | In Canada women can go topless |
| 13:46.13 | Orionshock | not much else to do in canada |
| 13:46.15 | cladhaire | In Canada my mom is topless |
| 13:46.22 | cladhaire | truth! |
| 13:46.34 | kagaro | doesnt understand why people go nuts over nudity |
| 13:46.38 | MoonWork | depends on the part of canda, i'm sure there are certain parts you definilty want to keep all clothing on. |
| 13:46.55 | Orionshock | kagaro: u american? |
| 13:47.02 | Ellipsis | being topless in canada leads to an interesting problem though |
| 13:47.03 | kagaro | italian |
| 13:47.11 | Ellipsis | I've heard it referred to as "nipsicles" |
| 13:47.19 | kagaro | but ive been living in the states now for 20 years |
| 13:47.23 | MoonWork | Ellipsis, thats what i was refering too. |
| 13:47.32 | KriLL3 | anyone knows what addon that makes the quest log wider, adds icons top right to see start end and objective's loc in the world map/atlas ? |
| 13:47.52 | Orionshock | don't know bout rest of the world, but most Americans have had the Christian beatings about nudity, thus it's shunned in public.. go figure.. |
| 13:48.09 | Stanzilla | religion = fail |
| 13:48.12 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 13:48.20 | Orionshock | KriLL3: IMO, Dubblewide, LightHeaded + TomTom & Cart3 == perfect questing |
| 13:48.25 | MoonWork | waits for someone got get offended. |
| 13:48.40 | Orionshock | signals MoonWork that he's offended... |
| 13:48.48 | KriLL3 | Orionshock: never heard of em |
| 13:48.54 | KriLL3 | except cart3 |
| 13:48.59 | KriLL3 | isn't cart2 the current version? |
| 13:49.05 | Orionshock | KriLL3: all on www.wowinterface.com xpt for Cart3 on curse |
| 13:49.09 | cladhaire | DoubleWide |
| 13:49.11 | cladhaire | but DubbleWide |
| 13:49.11 | cladhaire | lol |
| 13:49.12 | cladhaire | :P |
| 13:49.18 | Orionshock | Cart2 =/= Cart3 |
| 13:49.18 | KriLL3 | cart is on wowace |
| 13:49.27 | Orionshock | cladhaire: im a phonetic speller :P sue me |
| 13:49.41 | cladhaire | :P |
| 13:49.53 | Orionshock | KriLL3: but cart3 is not, get it off curse |
| 13:50.07 | Orionshock | get rid of cart2, use GatherMate + HandyNotes instead |
| 13:50.12 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: I'm tempted to sue you for claiming to be able to spell at all, let alone phonetically :P |
| 13:50.40 | KriLL3 | Cart3 looks less usable than Cart2 |
| 13:50.50 | KriLL3 | cool sure, but less convenient |
| 13:50.57 | Orionshock | makes a deal with Ellipsis to settle out of court for 2$ USD |
| 13:51.15 | Ellipsis | that works - paypal ok for you? |
| 13:51.28 | Orionshock | KriLL3: Cart3 is not an upgrade over cart2, it's just a map, use other addons to get functionality back. |
| 13:51.36 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: sure.. ur paying me right? |
| 13:51.53 | KriLL3 | Orionshock: which addons? I'm used to having all map related stuff in a package |
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| 13:53.00 | Orionshock | KriLL3: Cart3 + GatherMate ( a Cart_Professions replacement ) + HandyNotes (the Cart_Notes replacement) provides similar if not same functionality as the entire Cart3 package. |
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| 13:53.46 | Orionshock | Now Add to that LightHeaded (and TomTom b/c i like clad's waypoint mod) and DoubleWide and you have a good questing trio too |
| 13:54.19 | Orionshock | **as the entire Cart_2_ package. |
| 13:54.21 | kagaro | KriLL3: GatherMate and HandyNotes are map mod independant so you canuse it with whatever map mod you want. |
| 13:54.57 | kagaro | Orionshock: I think ck added notes to cart3 in the latest release |
| 13:55.12 | pyo | what's the max distance party members can be away from you and still earn XP in an instance? |
| 13:55.13 | Orionshock | kagaro: don't think so... |
| 13:55.34 | KriLL3 | I just don't like the UI of cart3, the drop down menu to select stuff and the right click to zoom out / left click to zoom in is a lot more handy than a google maps kind of UI |
| 13:55.37 | Orionshock | pyo: ~60yrds / in visable sight |
| 13:55.47 | pyo | thanks |
| 13:55.56 | kagaro | ver 0.82 has notes Orionshock |
| 13:56.04 | Orionshock | interesting... |
| 13:56.17 | grzesieq | Uh. So I get the UNIT_QUEST_LOG_CHANGED event after I abandon a quest, it runs a function that prints all quests in questlog (for testing) and the freshly abandoned quest is still printed. Should I be using a different event? |
| 13:56.20 | Orionshock | where is sylv when u need to talk to him? |
| 13:56.41 | KriLL3 | does cart3 have more icons for notes? I'd want icons for various barter NPCs and quest giver ! ? etc |
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| 13:57.12 | kagaro | personally I would use HandyNotes, since i can switch map mods and not loose data |
| 13:57.16 | Orionshock | KriLL3: um... Cart3 dosn't do NPC tracking, that's where HandyNotes comes in and i don't think it has a very large icon pack |
| 13:58.25 | KriLL3 | how do I make handynotes add a note for a NPC? |
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| 13:59.03 | Orionshock | modules, it should do it automagically |
| 13:59.16 | kagaro | there are seperate modules for it for flightmasters, mailboxes, stables and vendors .. no quest module |
| 13:59.23 | KriLL3 | most of them seem outdated |
| 13:59.27 | KriLL3 | more than 90 days old |
| 13:59.33 | Orionshock | &? |
| 13:59.40 | Kaelten | Ominous: I'm back |
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| 14:00.16 | Orionshock | when was the last time OneBag was updated what patch 2.3? but the author is still arround and kicking. ^^ |
| 14:00.28 | KriLL3 | I prefer Combuctor |
| 14:01.07 | Orionshock | point is that just b/c it hasn't been touched in more than a month dosn't mean that it's dated, look for the activity of the author. |
| 14:03.18 | kagaro | KriLL3: as long as it works, not point to touch it just to makeit look updated |
| 14:03.53 | Ellipsis | touches kagaro |
| 14:04.03 | Ellipsis | there, now we can all safely use you again :3 |
| 14:04.25 | kagaro | sure |
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| 14:05.08 | kagaro | my cat is snoring .. that sounds soo odd |
| 14:06.44 | |Pixel| | wait for your cat to sneeze |
| 14:06.57 | |Pixel| | before saying something sounds odd |
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| 14:09.02 | KriLL3 | is cart2 the source of the arrows to waypoints? |
| 14:10.07 | Lanerra | Haha, I was talking to a GM ingame about an issue I was having and when they asked if there was anything else they could help with, I asked if they could send a beta key to my email and gave them my email address. Then they said, "I'll see what I can do ;) " |
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| 14:10.13 | Ellipsis | the cartographer_waypoints module does those, yeah |
| 14:10.14 | Lanerra | Here's hoping haha |
| 14:10.21 | Industrial | KriLL3: have you even read what they do? |
| 14:10.35 | Ellipsis | feeds the Industri-troll |
| 14:10.42 | Industrial | NOMNOMNOMNOM |
| 14:10.53 | Saroz_ | where is my curse beta key :( |
| 14:11.24 | Industrial | whoa there. wotlk beta key* |
| 14:11.32 | KriLL3 | can you import stuff from cart2's notes to cart3's or handynotes? my mining/gas notes are of particular concern to me |
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| 14:11.59 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: there's always pre-built data files :P |
| 14:12.03 | ckknight | KriLL3: not Cart3 yest |
| 14:12.05 | ckknight | yet* |
| 14:12.15 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: where? |
| 14:12.18 | KriLL3 | ckknight: kk |
| 14:13.51 | KriLL3 | I just installed cart3 and all my notes are intact... |
| 14:14.05 | KriLL3 | a bug? =P |
| 14:14.39 | kagaro | KriLL3: GatherMate does have an import module for cart2 profession notes |
| 14:14.47 | Arrowmaster | do you still have cart2 enabled? |
| 14:14.51 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 14:14.55 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.00 | Arrowmaster | then thats why they are still intact |
| 14:15.02 | Industrial | moves to another window |
| 14:15.03 | Xinhuan | Handynotes is mapmod independant |
| 14:15.27 | kagaro | Anyone have a beta login that could post to the priest forum thread for me ? |
| 14:16.01 | Lanerra | Does Phanx ever come in here? |
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| 14:16.26 | CIA-45 | 03endeavour * r79604 10YellCollect/ (YellCollect.lua YellCollect.toc): |
| 14:16.26 | CIA-45 | YellCollect: |
| 14:16.26 | CIA-45 | - minor changes & fixes |
| 14:17.36 | Industrial | ~seen Phanx |
| 14:17.38 | purl | phanx <n=phanx133@adsl-69-228-193-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 51d 9h 5m 25s ago, saying: 'hurrah, forums are alive!'. |
| 14:17.57 | Lanerra | Wow... |
| 14:17.59 | Obelixprime | that's a long time ago |
| 14:18.05 | Lanerra | So, not frequently, gotcha |
| 14:18.21 | cladhaire | kagaro: yes |
| 14:18.48 | kagaro | ckknight: got me covered, thanks though cladhaire |
| 14:18.53 | cladhaire | ok |
| 14:19.21 | kagaro | blizz is taking glyph suggestions for priest glyphs |
| 14:19.31 | cladhaire | aye |
| 14:19.46 | kagaro | I want 35 yard mindflay, just recude the snare to like 5% |
| 14:19.47 | cladhaire | some good ideas so far |
| 14:19.55 | kagaro | for pve |
| 14:19.58 | Industrial | mind flay? snare? |
| 14:20.01 | Industrial | what? |
| 14:20.04 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 14:20.07 | Industrial | madness |
| 14:20.35 | kagaro | hell i would be fine with no snare with 35 yard range |
| 14:20.53 | cladhaire | hehe yeah |
| 14:21.12 | kagaro | it sucks to be at 24 yards for flay |
| 14:21.12 | cladhaire | A glyph to proc some rage for warriors and bear tanks on shielding would be really nice, and decrease some of the tank outcry regarding Disc healing and the emphasis on shielding. |
| 14:21.14 | cladhaire | would be nice |
| 14:21.29 | Lanerra | Can anyone tell me what nameplate addon is being used here: http://rothui.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/roth_ui.jpg |
| 14:21.43 | KriLL3 | is it possible to make cart3 snap to a clicked zone so it frames all of it? |
| 14:21.46 | Stanzilla | shadow priest scaling really sucks..you have to hack arround on your keyboard like a madman du reach some decent dps |
| 14:22.00 | Stanzilla | and a lock can do the same without weapons and only using 1 key >.< |
| 14:22.24 | kagaro | Yeah stan its definitly more work for a spriest |
| 14:22.29 | Stanzilla | du=to |
| 14:22.30 | KriLL3 | lock is the most button mashing class in the game |
| 14:22.45 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 14:22.47 | Orionshock | Lanerra: Aloft could do that, but it's been borked sence 2.4? |
| 14:22.51 | Lukian | cladhaire, I was thinking Primal Precision should return rage on avoided attacks also |
| 14:22.52 | Stanzilla | you can place a rock on [1] |
| 14:23.00 | kagaro | I got stack a LOT more + dam to catch up to a shitty lock |
| 14:23.03 | kagaro | in T4 |
| 14:23.05 | Stanzilla | my max dps was 17xx |
| 14:23.06 | Gnarfoz | Orionshock: it's not borked at all |
| 14:23.07 | Lanerra | Hmmmm...alright, thanks |
| 14:23.19 | Gnarfoz | Lanerra: I only know of Aloft that'd be able to do that |
| 14:23.21 | Orionshock | Gnarfoz: someone fix it? |
| 14:23.29 | Lukian | Orionshock, aloft works fine for me |
| 14:24.12 | Lanerra | ...I have an addon I don't remember getting called "Alar common rotuines" and it is misspelled like that in ACP |
| 14:24.14 | Orionshock | aparently someone fixed it... tbh i can't stand that much non-3d world taking up real estate |
| 14:24.32 | Ellipsis | Lanerra: remove any addon starting with or containing the name "Alar" and never look back |
| 14:24.34 | Gnarfoz | I don't think it was ever broken^^ |
| 14:25.01 | KriLL3 | I got some addons that don't even show in ACP, dunno why |
| 14:25.03 | Lanerra | That's the thing, it seems his 'common rotuines' are the only thing of his in my Addon folder |
| 14:25.10 | cladhaire | haha |
| 14:25.10 | Lanerra | But I don't remember getting anything of his |
| 14:25.36 | cladhaire | Jello is not very filling |
| 14:25.39 | KriLL3 | XPBarNone is one |
| 14:26.08 | Lanerra | Does he always put the name 'Alar' in the addon? |
| 14:26.10 | cladhaire | now JelloShots, awesome |
| 14:26.27 | Ellipsis | Lanerra: pretty sure, yeah |
| 14:26.34 | Ellipsis | all the ones I know of have it |
| 14:26.50 | Ellipsis | check for something starting with LibAlar or something |
| 14:27.04 | Lanerra | Yeah, there is a folder called "AlarLib" |
| 14:27.08 | Ellipsis | delete it |
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| 14:27.16 | Ellipsis | twice for good measure |
| 14:27.20 | Lanerra | ...says Access is Denied... |
| 14:27.26 | Lanerra | T_T |
| 14:27.46 | Xinhuan | shift-delete it |
| 14:28.17 | Lanerra | Weird, it deleted every single file in that folder, but it won't let me delete the folder |
| 14:29.18 | Orionshock | Lanerra: Vista? |
| 14:29.21 | Neya | it's windows messing with you |
| 14:30.00 | Ellipsis | Lanerra: you haven't been poking through its code, have you? :P |
| 14:30.08 | Lanerra | Nope, XP Pro x64 |
| 14:30.17 | Lanerra | And no, I haven't :P |
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| 14:31.02 | Orionshock | Lanerra: file in use, reboot computer if you don't have anything else open :\ |
| 14:31.19 | Ellipsis | you could use something like process explorer to find out what's actually using the file |
| 14:31.31 | Ellipsis | or do the lazy thing and just close random processes until you find the culprit :P |
| 14:31.32 | Lanerra | Suppose I'll have to...but all in good time |
| 14:31.38 | Xinhuan | problably notepad or something |
| 14:31.50 | KriLL3 | of the resource monitor in the task manager |
| 14:31.51 | Xinhuan | stil has a handle on that directory as a active working folder |
| 14:31.58 | Ellipsis | ^that, which annoys me |
| 14:31.58 | KriLL3 | *or |
| 14:32.16 | KriLL3 | I use an app named "unlocker" it fixes issues like that |
| 14:32.16 | Ellipsis | could also be an addon updater |
| 14:32.35 | Lanerra | Nope, there is nothing running that would access the folder |
| 14:32.52 | JoshBorke | ignore it and delete it the next time you reboot imo |
| 14:33.45 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: you clearly have no experience with OCD :P |
| 14:34.27 | JoshBorke | oh i do, i've just overcome it :-D |
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| 14:35.17 | Ellipsis | or have you? (and when was the last time you cleaned out the crumbs in your keyboard?) |
| 14:35.39 | Arrowmaster | i did it a few weeks ago |
| 14:35.47 | JoshBorke | i do it every day |
| 14:35.53 | JoshBorke | i just don't do a good job :-D |
| 14:36.01 | JoshBorke | i turn it upside down over a trash can and shake it some |
| 14:36.08 | Ellipsis | and you say you've conquered it...pfft |
| 14:36.35 | Arrowmaster | im hairy and shead, mine getting tiny hairs in it....... |
| 14:36.45 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: same |
| 14:37.00 | Arrowmaster | they dont come out easyly when you turn it upside down |
| 14:37.20 | Ellipsis | ....eesh |
| 14:37.20 | JoshBorke | it's true, i'm a liar |
| 14:38.01 | JoshBorke | i don't remember the last time i cleaned out my keyboard |
| 14:38.06 | Lanerra | What's crazy are the people who literally completely dismantle their keyboards and clean the individual keys |
| 14:38.07 | JoshBorke | i was just trying to sound cool |
| 14:38.13 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 14:38.15 | Lanerra | Honestly, though, it sounds like something I'd do |
| 14:38.15 | JoshBorke | i've done that a couple times :-X |
| 14:38.19 | Arrowmaster | i did that a few weeks ago....... |
| 14:38.33 | Lanerra | To be honest, my keyboard needs it... |
| 14:38.39 | Ellipsis | I do that when the cleaning mood strikes me |
| 14:38.42 | JoshBorke | the space bar is a bitch |
| 14:38.56 | KriLL3 | is "cartographer" in WOU cart3? |
| 14:38.56 | Lanerra | Seriously, Josh! God I hate my space bar |
| 14:39.00 | Ellipsis | usually as part of the process of taking apart my laptop to clean out the dust |
| 14:40.08 | Lanerra | God damn it |
| 14:40.44 | JoshBorke | still only lvl 10 on kongregate :-( |
| 14:40.57 | Lanerra | When I reload now it sometimes give a "Memory Invalid Block : Function: delete" error and crashes with the description: "SMem3: Pointer does not refer to a valid allocated block of memory" |
| 14:41.01 | JoshBorke | erm, 9 |
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| 14:41.47 | cubicool | I hate functions enumerated by number. :( |
| 14:41.49 | cubicool | shmem1 |
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| 14:41.57 | cubicool | shmem3 |
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| 14:45.41 | cladhaire | i need to level from 250 -> 275 mining.. l need hlep |
| 14:46.56 | AcTiVaTe | best thing for levelling mining is a fast mount |
| 14:47.25 | Lanerra | Yup, a fast flyer will definitely do the trick |
| 14:47.40 | Poul|Raider | http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Dan/Gabor-Ratky-and-Attila-Kisko-AddOn-Studio-for-World-of-Warcraft/ |
| 14:48.10 | cladhaire | I have one |
| 14:48.14 | cladhaire | trying to figure out where to go :P |
| 14:48.36 | AcTiVaTe | Burning Steppes |
| 14:48.56 | AcTiVaTe | Searing Gorge has small thorium too |
| 14:49.24 | AcTiVaTe | And Dark Iron is nice to lvl on |
| 14:49.36 | cladhaire | good idea |
| 14:49.57 | cladhaire | thanks :P |
| 14:50.46 | Arrowmaster | Poul|Raider: not news |
| 14:50.57 | Poul|Raider | naa properly not :D |
| 14:51.00 | Poul|Raider | i just saw it now |
| 14:51.00 | CIA-45 | 03cwdg * r79605 10BigWigs/ (Extras/Flash.lua Prototype.lua): |
| 14:51.00 | CIA-45 | BigWigs: |
| 14:51.00 | CIA-45 | zhCN update |
| 14:51.17 | Poul|Raider | Maybe there was others who found it interesting |
| 14:52.41 | Ellipsis | Dear Crazy Internet People, Why Must You Capitalize Every Single Word For No Apparent Reason? |
| 14:52.50 | Ellipsis | sighs |
| 14:52.56 | Obelixprime | Because its a title? |
| 14:53.05 | Ellipsis | titles get title-casing...not *every* word |
| 14:53.19 | cladhaire | for isn't capatalized |
| 14:53.20 | cladhaire | ducks |
| 14:53.23 | Ellipsis | and, for the record, the example that I just came across was certainly not a title |
| 14:53.26 | Obelixprime | DEAR CRAZY INTERNET PEOPLE, WHY MUST YOU CAPITALIZE EVERY SINGLE WORD FOR NO APPARENT REASON? |
| 14:53.53 | Lanerra | I didn't know it was in beta. Thanks, Poul|Raider |
| 14:54.07 | cladhaire | we thought you were reacting to what was just posted :P |
| 14:54.27 | Ellipsis | someone posted something? |
| 14:54.33 | Ellipsis | scrolls up |
| 14:54.46 | Ellipsis | oh, hey, there was a link up there |
| 14:54.50 | Ellipsis | clicks it |
| 14:55.23 | Arrowmaster | cladhaire is here so i wont say anything about it |
| 14:55.30 | cladhaire | ? |
| 14:55.37 | cladhaire | bout what? |
| 14:55.40 | Arrowmaster | the contents of said link |
| 14:55.56 | Ellipsis | eh, it looks like OFN to me |
| 14:55.59 | cladhaire | i dont use it, why would i have an issue with whatever you want to say? |
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| 14:56.15 | Arrowmaster | you yelled at me last time i was bashing it |
| 14:56.31 | cladhaire | i seem to recall things differently |
| 14:56.34 | cladhaire | i dont care if you bash it |
| 14:56.38 | cladhaire | but its useful to some people |
| 14:56.42 | cladhaire | i'm not the opinion police :P |
| 14:56.51 | Arrowmaster | can i be? |
| 14:56.56 | cladhaire | NO |
| 14:56.57 | Lanerra | What's wrong with a visual programming environment for WoW addons? |
| 14:57.00 | Arrowmaster | damn |
| 14:57.18 | Arrowmaster | Lanerra: very much not feature complete |
| 14:57.20 | cladhaire | Lanerra: nothing inherently. I suspect Arrowmaster has specific issues with the way its done, and I'm sure most of them are valid. |
| 14:57.47 | Ellipsis | if he didn't, he wouldn't be Arrowmaster |
| 14:57.48 | Arrowmaster | if for some reason you want to create frames using xml then i highly recommend it |
| 14:58.08 | Arrowmaster | i dont recommend many of the other working features |
| 14:58.27 | cladhaire | API tab completion is nice |
| 14:58.35 | cladhaire | given the scope of our API =/ |
| 14:58.41 | Lanerra | Wasn't one of the coming features making frames with the Lua? |
| 14:58.46 | Pneumatus | is it possible to add a condition to a macro where it only works against a certain type of mob? |
| 14:58.52 | Pneumatus | like undead |
| 14:59.00 | Arrowmaster | it would be nice if it didnt include local variables from every file in the project |
| 14:59.08 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: no |
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| 14:59.19 | Pneumatus | didn't think so :< |
| 14:59.59 | Arrowmaster | was told that issue wasnt fixed in the v2 beta |
| 15:00.12 | Arrowmaster | havent had time to install it myself |
| 15:01.25 | Pneumatus | does [harm] cover attackable neutral targets, or just hostile targets? |
| 15:01.38 | Xinhuan | anythign atatckable is [harm] |
| 15:01.43 | Poul|Raider | only reason why i would use it was if i could import all files and have intelligence :) |
| 15:02.05 | Pneumatus | thx Xinhuan |
| 15:02.42 | Poul|Raider | Im sure the tool can be a nice start for people who want to learn abit about doing addons, and understand the layout stuff |
| 15:04.40 | Industrial | why |
| 15:04.52 | Industrial | i learnt it all with a text editor and lua |
| 15:05.11 | Industrial | visual tools are for people in denial that actually doing the learning is the only way. |
| 15:05.30 | Industrial | <insert programming language X> |
| 15:07.41 | Ellipsis | checks the lock on Industrial's cage, just in case |
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| 15:08.01 | Daedals | Notepad ++ owns |
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| 15:29.20 | CIA-45 | 03endeavour * r79606 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): |
| 15:29.20 | CIA-45 | BossTalk: |
| 15:29.20 | CIA-45 | - reordered the boss menu |
| 15:29.21 | CIA-45 | - added a "mount" event |
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| 15:56.11 | CIA-45 | 03doktorjet * r79607 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (FuBar_GarbageFu.toc GarbageFuLocale-ruRU.lua): |
| 15:56.11 | CIA-45 | FuBar_GarbageFu: - added russian localization. |
| 15:56.11 | CIA-45 | Note: while testing I found that current version DOES NOT support AuctioneerAdvanced as an auction price source. |
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| 16:21.06 | Industrial | ~seen Thorias |
| 16:21.08 | purl | thorias <n=eschack@x1-6-00-e0-f4-12-91-e7.k234.webspeed.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 663d 6h 20m 43s ago, saying: 'svn5 should be up2date now'. |
| 16:21.14 | Industrial | .. |
| 16:21.29 | Mytos | lol 3 years |
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| 16:22.16 | Nexuapex | Question about the Threat-2.0 download from files.wowace.com: |
| 16:22.44 | Nexuapex | The embeds.xml file lists LibGUIDRegistry and AceLocale, but they don't show up in the Libs folder. |
| 16:23.04 | Nexuapex | What gives? |
| 16:23.20 | Aii | is this the direct zip download from files., or installing via WAU |
| 16:23.40 | Nexuapex | Direct download, and also via the Mac WoWAceUpdater. |
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| 16:23.52 | Aii | maybe a borked svn externals setting |
| 16:24.13 | Nexuapex | Who would I prod about that? |
| 16:24.15 | Daedals | still no sign of beta keys :( |
| 16:24.31 | Aii | well, let's check and see if that's what's the case first, Nexuapex :) |
| 16:25.09 | charon | it is |
| 16:25.19 | Aii | righto |
| 16:26.23 | charon | want me to fix it or are you on it already? |
| 16:26.38 | Aii | looking at it right now |
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| 16:27.52 | Nexuapex | Is there a way to browse the SVN from a browser that would show SVN properties, etc.? |
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| 16:28.16 | Aii | um, not sure about from a browser |
| 16:28.19 | Aii | svn clients can though |
| 16:28.23 | Nexuapex | Well, yeah. |
| 16:28.44 | Nexuapex | Maybe Fisheye coudl? |
| 16:28.46 | Nexuapex | *coul |
| 16:28.54 | Ellipsis | fisheye shows svn props, yeah |
| 16:28.56 | Ellipsis | it's just slow as heck |
| 16:29.03 | Nexuapex | And also not working ATM. |
| 16:29.05 | charon | that's an svn problem, not fisheye's |
| 16:29.44 | charon | beats Aii to a fix |
| 16:30.26 | fewyn | why do i use windows? it's almost positively full of fail |
| 16:30.27 | Aii | I figured you would if you actually tried charon... I just grabbed rapidsvn to try out on my work machine and have been playing with it |
| 16:30.34 | Aii | but it's not exactly what im used to |
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| 16:31.50 | charon | well actually it's two separate issues |
| 16:31.56 | fewyn | is it fairly easy to get wow working on *nix now a days? |
| 16:31.57 | charon | libguidregistry is an unused dependency |
| 16:32.19 | charon | wait, so is acelocale |
| 16:32.22 | charon | duh. |
| 16:32.27 | Mytos | fewyn: yes |
| 16:32.50 | fewyn | Haven't tried wow on *nix in a couple years |
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| 16:33.29 | Aii | Nexuapex: are you having problems loading Threat-2.0? Or was this just a side "wonder why" thing? |
| 16:33.43 | Nexuapex | No, it loads and it works, it just throws errors out to FrameXML.log. |
| 16:34.02 | Nexuapex | Being a purist, that's more or less an abomination. |
| 16:34.05 | CIA-45 | 03charon * r79608 10Threat-2.0/embeds.xml: Threat-2.0: Remove unused AceLocale-3.0 and LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 from embeds.xml |
| 16:34.19 | Aii | :P |
| 16:34.52 | charon | oddly enough, no commit ever added the string AceLocale to a file other than embeds.xml :p |
| 16:35.01 | charon | (libguidregistry was used at one point) |
| 16:35.05 | durcyn | charon: you missed the toc btw |
| 16:35.13 | Aii | who committed the locale add to embed? :P |
| 16:35.28 | Nexuapex | Does LibGUIDRegistry add itself to Threat-2.0 or something? |
| 16:35.37 | Aii | hrm, Nexuapex ? |
| 16:35.43 | durcyn | Nexuapex: some Omen modules use it, not Threat-2.0 |
| 16:35.49 | Nexuapex | Aha. |
| 16:36.19 | charon | durcyn: well spotted |
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| 16:37.02 | CIA-45 | 03charon * r79609 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.toc: Threat-2.0: also remove LibGUIDRegistry from optdeps |
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| 16:37.52 | charon | Aii: hmm, not sure, i seem to have cut off my git-svn history at some point |
| 16:38.17 | Aii | fail :P |
| 16:38.21 | Zeksie | mmm. found a way to convert GUIDs to player name on beta.. |
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| 16:38.30 | Zeksie | they'll have to change that |
| 16:38.36 | Nexuapex | Ooh. |
| 16:38.38 | Nexuapex | Awkward. |
| 16:40.06 | durcyn | Zeksie: why? |
| 16:40.19 | Nexuapex | Hrm... well, GUID -> player name shouldn't be *that* big of a deal |
| 16:40.25 | charon | i need to run |
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| 16:43.02 | Zeksie | do /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage(string.gsub("|cffffff00|Hachievement:135:0000000000070000:1:9:1:8:4294967295:4294967295:4294967295:4294967295|h[Grand Master in First Aid]|h|r", "|", "\124")) |
| 16:43.06 | Zeksie | change the 0070000 to whatever, and you get their player name |
| 16:43.46 | Zeksie | they decided some time to not allow this from what i understand. |
| 16:44.18 | Nexuapex | Surely any time you have a player's GUID, you also have their name? |
| 16:44.28 | Nexuapex | (Achievement links put player names in them?) |
| 16:44.35 | Zeksie | the tooltip does, yes |
| 16:44.47 | Nexuapex | What for? A specific player's achievement progres? |
| 16:44.48 | Zeksie | use the link via SetHyperlink, scan bla. |
| 16:45.21 | Zeksie | they don't want it allowed I beleive, cos it would allow DB building for mail bomb gold selling |
| 16:46.08 | Zeksie | that it's achievement thign is beside the point, it converts guid -> name.. that's the point |
| 16:46.46 | Nexuapex | Right, I'm just curious why achievement links put player names in the tooltip, I would've expected it to be "here's an achievement" not "here's a specific player's achievement", like quests. |
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| 16:47.06 | fewyn | don't forget your consortium gems! |
| 16:47.08 | Nexuapex | ...ah, it probably doesn't disconnect you if you use an invalid GUID, I get it. |
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| 16:49.44 | Nexuapex | Hrm, uh, Threat-2.0 still has AceLocale in embeds.xml |
| 16:51.00 | Nexuapex | It also pulls in AceTimer, but doesn't have it in embeds.xml. |
| 16:51.42 | CIA-45 | 03aiiane * r79610 10Threat-2.0/embeds.xml: Threat-2.0: really, actually remove AceLocale from embeds.xml. |
| 16:52.03 | Nexuapex | Wait, so AceBucket uses AceTimer... how does AceTimer get loaded? |
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| 16:55.00 | Nexuapex | Gahh, confusing. AceTimer is definitely used, but not in embeds.xml? |
| 16:55.25 | CIA-45 | 03aiiane * r79611 10Threat-2.0/embeds.xml: Threat-2.0: ...and add in AceTimer. aroo? |
| 16:55.39 | Aii | Nexuapex: can you pull that and make sure I didn't screw something up horribly :P |
| 16:56.00 | Nexuapex | Heh. *holds up a big hammer menacingly* |
| 16:56.15 | Nexuapex | Will do when it gets pushed to the site. |
| 16:56.35 | Aii | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-2.0/embeds.xml |
| 16:56.37 | Aii | just go there |
| 16:56.53 | Aii | and overwrite the contents of your embeds.xml with that |
| 16:57.30 | Nexuapex | That doesn't appear to be current, as it still has AceLocale and LibGUIDRegistry |
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| 16:57.45 | Nexuapex | actually |
| 16:57.51 | Nexuapex | It was just my browser cache |
| 16:58.40 | Aii | hehe :) |
| 16:59.57 | Nexuapex | No errors, so I think we're good |
| 17:00.15 | Nexuapex | ...four revisions later. =D |
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| 17:09.52 | Aii | votes on which ace3 module I should add to http://wowace.com/wiki/Ace3/Getting_Started next? |
| 17:11.51 | Dashkal | GUI or Options |
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| 17:13.12 | Aii | I was thinking AceDBOptions as a followup to DB and Config |
| 17:13.44 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 17:13.44 | purl | takes a big bite out of Vulcanus's jugular vein |
| 17:14.30 | Lukian | [2. Trade] <Belwink>: what does scan do in the AH? |
| 17:14.40 | fewyn | it makes you diaf |
| 17:14.44 | Aii | ~lart Belwink |
| 17:14.44 | purl | throws Belwink's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 17:14.52 | fewyn | now get off my tradechat |
| 17:14.59 | fewyn | that's what i would say |
| 17:15.31 | Dashkal | Should use ~lart in trade sometime just to see if someone gets it... |
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| 17:18.11 | CIA-45 | 03cwdg * r79612 10BigWigs/ (18 files in 8 dirs): |
| 17:18.11 | CIA-45 | BigWigs: |
| 17:18.11 | CIA-45 | zhCN update |
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| 17:22.09 | _mytos | ~lart Aii |
| 17:22.09 | purl | strangles Aii with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 17:22.16 | Aii | aroo |
| 17:22.25 | _mytos | couldnt resist |
| 17:22.45 | Aii | ~whalepunt _mytos |
| 17:22.46 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts _mytos across the Atlantic |
| 17:24.49 | _mytos | no fair, i dont know all of purls commands lol |
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| 17:29.57 | NeoTron_ | Background: New resto druid app. Tends to log off to "read a book" every time he's put on standby. Doesn't seem to prepare for new bosses (considering he went from partial BT to 4/6 SWP guild you'd imagine he would) |
| 17:30.28 | NeoTron_ | Claim: His grandmother suddently is in a coma and he will miss Thu and Sun raids (which happens to be nights he'd be on standby since we're working on M'uru). |
| 17:30.43 | NeoTron_ | I just have a hard time believing him |
| 17:31.15 | Aii | ask him if he needs to go read his grandmother a book |
| 17:32.16 | NeoTron_ | I just thing he's fail |
| 17:32.24 | NeoTron_ | at least from a serious raiding guild PoV |
| 17:32.52 | Chompers | not many people have that drive to learn muru onwards |
| 17:33.13 | Chompers | 40 tries a night or whatever eats away at anyone |
| 17:33.53 | NeoTron_ | we failed to get half that |
| 17:34.06 | NeoTron_ | for some reason we had huge issues with people disconnecting |
| 17:34.16 | NeoTron_ | I think they all were on some kind of AT&T connection |
| 17:34.35 | Chompers | :< |
| 17:34.48 | NeoTron_ | finally had to call it when one of the three tanks finally gave up (his connection is, ironically, from a Microsoft provided temporary housing) |
| 17:34.56 | Chompers | phase transition was my buddys problem |
| 17:34.59 | NeoTron_ | sucks too because we actually did well |
| 17:35.05 | NeoTron_ | we never gotten to that point |
| 17:35.07 | Chompers | always having a construct up |
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| 17:35.24 | NeoTron_ | it's like vashj.. have to time it |
| 17:35.29 | Chompers | then they changed phase 2 tactics and split into seperate groups, down in 2 tries |
| 17:35.30 | NeoTron_ | I assuem you mean Void Sentinel |
| 17:35.46 | Chompers | aye, sentinel |
| 17:35.58 | NeoTron_ | yeah we've been down to mid 30s phase 1 |
| 17:36.09 | NeoTron_ | last night went well until 3-5 people or so starting disconnecting |
| 17:36.31 | NeoTron_ | one time the pally tank DC'd on the pull (outside the area), but came back in and managed to pick up the sentinel with a second to spaer |
| 17:36.40 | CIA-45 | 03endeavour * r79613 10Endeavours_Raid_Icon_Replacer/ (. ERIR.lua Endeavours_Raid_Icon_Replacer.toc): |
| 17:36.40 | CIA-45 | Endeavours_Raid_Icon_Replacer: initial commit |
| 17:36.40 | CIA-45 | - replaces the words star, diamond, circle and so on with their corresponding raid target icons. |
| 17:36.40 | Chompers | lucky |
| 17:36.41 | NeoTron_ | at least twice a door tank DC'd |
| 17:36.49 | NeoTron_ | right on the pull or shortly after |
| 17:36.51 | Chompers | sounds like fail |
| 17:36.58 | Chompers | perhaps take a night off |
| 17:36.58 | NeoTron_ | with the prot pally dc'd at least twice during the fight |
| 17:37.05 | NeoTron_ | we called it an hour and a half early |
| 17:37.14 | NeoTron_ | at least we got 4 sunmotes from the trash |
| 17:37.29 | NeoTron_ | I've heard that M'uru's room is apt to generate disconnects |
| 17:38.15 | CIA-45 | 03cwdg * r79614 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:38.15 | CIA-45 | BigWigs: |
| 17:38.15 | CIA-45 | zhCN update... |
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| 17:40.10 | falconindy | not m'uru's room persay... there's some sort of supposed leak that occurs during Entropius |
| 17:40.25 | falconindy | hasn't seem to have affected anyone in my guild |
| 17:43.01 | CIA-45 | 03endeavour * r79615 10Endeavours_Raid_Icon_Replacer/ (. Endeavours_Raid_Icon_Replacer.toc): |
| 17:43.01 | CIA-45 | Endeavours_Raid_Icon_Replacer: |
| 17:43.01 | CIA-45 | - setup externals etc |
| 17:43.32 | fewyn | raid icon replacer? |
| 17:43.34 | fewyn | >_> |
| 17:45.25 | [Endeavour] | well, my english is not the best... For me it is handy as a mage, i write "i'll sheep star" in the chat. the addon will replace that to "i'll sheep {rt1}" so the icon is visible in the chat instead of the word star. (hope my english is understandable for you :-)) |
| 17:45.37 | fewyn | ah |
| 17:45.46 | fewyn | i see what you mean |
| 17:45.55 | fewyn | i thought it actually replaced the symbols used |
| 17:46.11 | [Endeavour] | hmm you're right, the name could be confusing |
| 17:46.23 | [Endeavour] | how'd you name it instead? |
| 17:46.38 | fewyn | no idea |
| 17:47.00 | Aii | ChatRaidIconizer :P |
| 17:47.18 | fewyn | i like that one |
| 17:50.43 | Neya | or you could do as I do with names, use a random name generator. |
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| 17:51.53 | [Endeavour] | hmm.. but how to rename it on the SVN? TurtoiseSVN "Relocate" doesn't work |
| 17:56.03 | p3lim | ~seen Lyn_ |
| 17:56.10 | purl | lyn_ <n=Lyn@Ld91e.l.pppool.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 14m 2s ago, saying: 'gooooooood moooooooooorning vieeeee.. oh wrong window... *cough* :p night'. |
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| 17:58.34 | NeoTron_ | [Endeavour]: svn mv ? |
| 18:01.22 | NeoTron_ | Wise words from Schneier: "Life is easier if the police don't raid your apartment. " |
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| 18:07.15 | cncfanatics | Diao, Arrowmaster: ping |
| 18:08.15 | Daedals | http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1731/damagemeterai5.jpg made this today :) |
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| 18:09.42 | cncfanatics | hmmm, anyone can explain me http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t29470-libquickhealth_inspired_instant_health/ (the last post) how that is possible ? |
| 18:09.53 | cncfanatics | it wouldn't make sense for UnitHealth to not be accurate right after the UNIT_HEALTH event |
| 18:10.46 | Lukian | !ap 1290 |
| 18:10.47 | Xinhuan | 1290 rating gives 297(5s), 262(3s) and 226(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 18:11.29 | Neya | cenefanatics, a not so logical conclusion on the belief that CLEU happens locally before it happens on the server maybe? |
| 18:11.38 | cncfanatics | that doesn't make sense |
| 18:11.43 | cncfanatics | both are sent from the server |
| 18:12.00 | Neya | I know, but the person who wrote that post doesn't seem to understand that. |
| 18:12.05 | cncfanatics | the CLEU is also sent by the server, and is not local |
| 18:12.15 | cncfanatics | hmmm, need to find a good way to explain that |
| 18:12.17 | cncfanatics | ponders |
| 18:12.21 | Neya | have fun :P |
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| 18:12.56 | _aLF | 'soir |
| 18:13.08 | cncfanatics | anyone any ideas how to do that ? |
| 18:13.31 | Aii | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t29470-libquickhealth_inspired_instant_health/#post837707 |
| 18:13.34 | Aii | :P |
| 18:13.50 | cncfanatics | that works |
| 18:13.56 | cncfanatics | I was thinking of actualy explaining why |
| 18:14.02 | cncfanatics | but I guess thats not a good idea |
| 18:14.58 | Neya | the hard part is to manage to explain it simple enough, and at the same time not too simple that they belive it's made up because it sounds too simple. |
| 18:16.16 | cncfanatics | screw explanations |
| 18:16.25 | cncfanatics | I cba to explain that to non programmers |
| 18:16.31 | Aii | edited to add a slight explanation :) |
| 18:17.29 | cncfanatics | <3 you |
| 18:17.57 | cncfanatics | thats nice |
| 18:18.07 | cncfanatics | cldnt have done it better (and prolly not even as good either) mysel |
| 18:18.15 | cncfanatics | s/mysel/myself/ |
| 18:19.37 | Lukian | !ap 1292 |
| 18:19.38 | Xinhuan | 1292 rating gives 298(5s), 262(3s) and 226(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 18:20.30 | cncfanatics | !points 1000 |
| 18:20.31 | Xinhuan | 1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating. |
| 18:20.42 | cncfanatics | !ap 2550 |
| 18:20.42 | Xinhuan | 2550 rating gives 1446(5s), 1272(3s) and 1099(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 18:21.29 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: So, I have GatherMate.. and I have GatherHUD.. and those work.. I have Routes. I also have Routes enabled.. yet I see no routes. |
| 18:21.56 | kagaro | beta or live cladhaire ? |
| 18:21.59 | cladhaire | live |
| 18:22.06 | NeoTron_ | beta... /cry |
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| 18:22.18 | Daedals | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.23 | NeoTron_ | move speedy Blizzard does not |
| 18:22.39 | kagaro | do you have them auto-hiding? |
| 18:22.49 | Daedals | aarrgghh the waiting is enough, do something Blizz! |
| 18:22.51 | NeoTron_ | ironically I'd expect at least november/december before release, maybe after xmas so it's not like it really matters in the long run |
| 18:22.59 | Aii | cladhaire: have you created any routes? |
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| 18:23.20 | kagaro | Aii: I didnt wana ask that one for fear of teh wrath |
| 18:23.25 | cladhaire | hrm, I suppose I haven't I expected GatherHUD to do that |
| 18:23.28 | cladhaire | :P |
| 18:23.31 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 18:23.33 | Lukian | !ap 1500 |
| 18:23.34 | Xinhuan | 1500 rating gives 344(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 18:23.38 | Aii | try making some then :P |
| 18:23.48 | kagaro | lols |
| 18:24.17 | Ackis | "is it possible to make a mod that only shows nameplates of mobs that are currently attacking you? |
| 18:24.28 | Ackis | kagaro: ilu |
| 18:24.36 | cncfanatics | Ackis: no |
| 18:24.55 | cladhaire | okay I created a new route |
| 18:24.59 | cladhaire | now how do I make it go :P |
| 18:25.04 | kagaro | Ackis: the script generating enough for you atm ? |
| 18:25.26 | kagaro | cladhaire: click the tab for optimization and pick bg or fog and calc the path |
| 18:25.43 | kagaro | s/fog/fg/ |
| 18:25.51 | cladhaire | oh okay |
| 18:25.54 | Ackis | kagaro: I'm going to have to play with it a little bit, but you've done most of the work... I will have your babies :D |
| 18:25.56 | cladhaire | makes sense now that I know to look there L:P |
| 18:26.01 | kagaro | hahah |
| 18:26.26 | kagaro | if wowdb gets some updates ill add some more of the data you wanted mined |
| 18:26.53 | Aii | Ackis: I think the closest you could get to such is a la Aloft, and have custom code to turn the transparency down on a unit if UnitTarget != player |
| 18:27.43 | Ackis | hmmm ty |
| 18:27.57 | kagaro | time for lunch |
| 18:28.20 | NeoTron_ | Aloft is nice but it lagged my system so I threw it out. is it the idea of custom nameplates that's slow or the code I wonder? |
| 18:28.30 | Aii | no idea, NeoTron_ |
| 18:28.37 | durcyn | it'st he caching |
| 18:28.39 | durcyn | the* |
| 18:29.42 | cladhaire | its the idea of the custom nameplates |
| 18:29.48 | cladhaire | you have to scan worldframe's children constantly to find new ones. |
| 18:30.27 | Ellipsis | does that work for speech bubbles too? |
| 18:30.33 | Ellipsis | has random ponderings |
| 18:31.26 | Aii | No Ellipsis, you are not allowed to write an addon to rewrite all chat bubbles into lolspeak. |
| 18:31.29 | Aii | :P |
| 18:31.49 | Ackis | pirate speak what? |
| 18:32.09 | NeoTron_ | cladhaire: ok that's ugly :P |
| 18:32.14 | cladhaire | ? |
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| 18:32.15 | cladhaire | oh |
| 18:32.16 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:32.37 | Aii | it's too bad Blizz doesn't expose that more |
| 18:33.04 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r79616 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Council.lua: Threat-2.0: Fix Veras Darkshadow's Vanish spell ID from 41479 to 41476, so that, you know, his threat actually vanishes when he casts vanish. |
| 18:33.47 | Aii | 9s work too cause they're just upside down 6's right Xinhuan? :P |
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| 18:34.35 | Xinhuan | hehehe |
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| 18:54.42 | durcyn | starlon: ping |
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| 19:09.50 | Adirelle | morning |
| 19:10.06 | Gnarfoz | morning Adirelle |
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| 19:12.10 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r79617 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc recipe-miner.lua): |
| 19:12.10 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:12.10 | CIA-45 | - Add recipe miner by Kagaro :D |
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| 19:30.44 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79618 10TweakHub_Merchant/Core.lua: |
| 19:30.44 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_Merchant: |
| 19:30.44 | CIA-45 | - Added a missing local variable inf used by the FormatMoneyExtended function. |
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| 19:42.45 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79619 10TweakHub_Merchant/Core.lua: |
| 19:42.45 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_Merchant: |
| 19:42.45 | CIA-45 | - Added the rest of the missing variables. SIGH. |
| 19:43.19 | Aiiane | beta keys... i has nots them yet :| |
| 19:44.10 | Funkeh` | pats Aiiane |
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| 19:45.11 | Fisker- | hoho Aiiane |
| 19:45.20 | Fisker- | i r dancing |
| 19:45.32 | Fisker- | ocean madness i tell ya |
| 19:46.47 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79620 10Click2Cast/ (Click2Cast-ruRU.lua Click2Cast.toc): Click2Cast: added ruRU localization |
| 19:47.05 | Pneumatus | beta keys... for watching "Authenticating" screens. |
| 19:48.01 | NeoTron_ | yes please |
| 19:48.22 | Daedals | 5% of client downloaded :) |
| 19:48.24 | ShaneSveller | anyone know if there's any kind of XML of the Realm Status available? |
| 19:48.26 | Fisker- | whine moar Pneumatus |
| 19:48.40 | Fisker- | needs moar tigole to kick you guys out of the beta |
| 19:48.51 | Pneumatus | Tigole doesnt care about euros |
| 19:48.59 | Fisker- | nope |
| 19:49.09 | Fisker- | and EU = wusses who don't care anyways |
| 19:49.31 | Daedals | :o |
| 19:50.15 | cladhaire | i dont think i'll want Jello for a year after today |
| 19:52.27 | Fisker- | i promise you destruction Pneumatus |
| 19:58.08 | Stanzilla | Oblivion!° |
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| 20:00.25 | CIA-45 | 03jncl * r79621 10Baddiel/Baddiel.lua: Baddiel: Bugfix |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert * r79622 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-45 | prevent self-damage (e.g. seal of blood) from being shown as outgoing damage (it will only show as incoming now) |
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| 20:04.13 | Diao | lol |
| 20:04.55 | Diao | sorry cncfanatic1, was at class :p |
| 20:07.47 | CIA-45 | 03jncl * r79623 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:07.47 | CIA-45 | Skinner: Skinned DemonTrainerFrame and Dominos |
| 20:07.47 | CIA-45 | - moved skinning of KeyBound lib |
| 20:07.47 | CIA-45 | - allow click-through for the MiddleFrame(s) |
| 20:09.28 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: naxx bosses have double boss death triggers..I get the message and the sound twice^^ |
| 20:10.48 | NeoTron_ | Stanzilla: they really die twice. they are cool like that. |
| 20:10.58 | Stanzilla | aaahh ok :) |
| 20:11.42 | NeoTron_ | in the new naxx in wotlk they will die upwards to 5-10 times. so much cooler 20 levels later |
| 20:11.50 | Diao | lol |
| 20:11.55 | Diao | it happens with some other bosses randomly too |
| 20:11.58 | Diao | i got it on lurker a few times |
| 20:15.11 | Funkeh` | uh |
| 20:15.12 | Funkeh` | okay |
| 20:17.26 | NeoTron_ | well lurker is just too cool for his own good |
| 20:17.32 | NeoTron_ | oh my, lurker flashbacks |
| 20:17.42 | NeoTron_ | the SSC/TK days seems so distant |
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| 20:34.44 | *** topic/#wowace is WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Author Key Give-Aways! http://wow.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 |
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| 20:41.12 | Aii | there are times when I wish EJ would go ahead and just make a temporary WotLK subforum |
| 20:41.29 | Aii | Having a single thread with over 6000 posts in it isn't that easy to follow |
| 20:41.31 | NeoTron_ | theer are times when I wish I got a wotlk beta key :P |
| 20:42.10 | Aii | shush you |
| 20:42.25 | Aii | goes back to documenting |
| 20:42.47 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: still no key for you? |
| 20:42.52 | NeoTron_ | correct |
| 20:42.59 | NivFreak | are you in for both give aways? |
| 20:43.02 | NeoTron_ | no |
| 20:43.07 | NivFreak | why not? |
| 20:43.11 | NeoTron_ | it's the same thing? |
| 20:43.16 | NeoTron_ | it's not a lottery |
| 20:43.24 | NivFreak | because one will get you a key faster ;P |
| 20:43.24 | NeoTron_ | and because "neotron" @ curse is not me |
| 20:43.30 | NivFreak | and you can clearly give me the other |
| 20:43.37 | NeoTron_ | I doubt I'd get two |
| 20:43.48 | NeoTron_ | they are smart enough to match emails don' you think? |
| 20:43.54 | NeoTron_ | esp since the login screen is based on email |
| 20:43.58 | Primer | I suppose I should put my key to use by "porting" my addon... |
| 20:44.05 | Primer | heh, I bet it just works |
| 20:44.37 | NeoTron_ | how did you get key ? |
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| 20:45.53 | Adirelle | ping antiarc |
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| 20:47.59 | NeoTron_ | finally I got the email i've been waiting for. Subject: õÔÏÌÉ Ó×ÏÀ ÐÏÈÏÔØ |
| 20:49.25 | kagaro | lol |
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| 21:14.12 | cgilroy | hey all... anyone using ag_uf currently? |
| 21:15.01 | cgilroy | got a quick question about the target unitframe... in it's default state (no other mods) does the target unitframe show the timers left on buffs/debuffs? |
| 21:15.22 | cgilroy | from the looks of it, its showing the time left on buffs for myself, but no other people it will show the buff, but not any timers or anything |
| 21:16.52 | Diao | it shouldn't show timers for other peoples' buffs unless you were the one that buffed them |
| 21:17.05 | Diao | there is no api to get the duration on someone else's buffs unless you were the one to cast it |
| 21:18.37 | cgilroy | I see, so do you happen to know of a mod that (for lack of better words), "tracks" a target and says "sw:p" is a 18 second DOT spell, so it picks up it was just put on the target and starts counting down? :-/ |
| 21:20.35 | Kuosi | omnicc |
| 21:20.58 | cgilroy | and if not, i guess thats fine, although im also curious (I believe it has something to do with CooldownCount, but is there any particular reason that the text is so big on the cooldown text? |
| 21:21.43 | erikh | omnicc tracks casts IIRC |
| 21:21.50 | erikh | cgilroy: try spellreminder |
| 21:21.55 | erikh | i use it for a HoT tracker on my druid |
| 21:21.56 | erikh | very handy |
| 21:22.14 | erikh | can even feed warnings and other info to your sct or miksbt |
| 21:22.36 | Chompers | cgilroy: will never happen |
| 21:23.03 | Chompers | there's too much data that needs to be relayed about to allow that |
| 21:23.36 | cgilroy | hmm, thanks for all the info, checking both mods |
| 21:25.22 | erikh | cgilroy: they provide different information |
| 21:25.32 | erikh | omnicc will also track trinkets, etc. |
| 21:33.24 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r79624 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: |
| 21:33.24 | CIA-45 | LibBars-1.0: |
| 21:33.24 | CIA-45 | - new method :GetBarGroups(), |
| 21:33.24 | CIA-45 | - added "GetBarGroup" and "GetBarGroups" to the mixins. |
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| 21:35.29 | Shefki | Funkeh`: ping |
| 21:35.38 | Funkeh` | heys |
| 21:35.57 | Shefki | Funkeh`: Any chance we could get a Conflag soon warning when the cooldown on Conflag is nearly up on the Twins in Bigwigs? |
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| 21:36.29 | Funkeh` | not sure, would it help? |
| 21:36.34 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 21:36.50 | Shefki | Tells people when to be sure to pay attention to the cast bars. |
| 21:37.50 | Shefki | It already has a cooldown bar for it. I could probably add it but you could probably do it faster since I don't know my way around BigWigs. |
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| 21:47.31 | neRd`zZz | Hi |
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| 21:48.10 | neRd`zZz | Anyone here can ehlp me plz :) |
| 21:48.24 | neRd`zZz | I need to download the latest oUf version, but i dunno where to find it :( |
| 21:48.44 | p3lim | ixo.no/git |
| 21:49.01 | neRd`zZz | p3lim ! |
| 21:49.11 | neRd`zZz | i <3 ur oUF :p |
| 21:49.13 | Kuosi | http://ixo.no/git/oUF.git/ |
| 21:49.22 | neRd`zZz | Yeah i add this page :< |
| 21:49.27 | neRd`zZz | But how can i dwnl it :( |
| 21:49.43 | p3lim | http://ixo.no/git/oUF.git/commit |
| 21:49.46 | Kuosi | http://ixo.no/git/oUF.git/snapshot/oUF-master.zip |
| 21:49.49 | p3lim | theres a link to the zip file right there |
| 21:49.54 | p3lim | or using that direct link |
| 21:50.00 | neRd`zZz | oh yeah :p |
| 21:50.06 | Primer | Anyone here use TomTom? It seems that either something is overriding its ability to control-right click the map to create waypoints (cartographer's dewdrop comes up when I control-right click) |
| 21:50.08 | neRd`zZz | |
| 21:50.26 | Primer | It never puts a minimap icon or map icon up (but I have chinchilla and a square map |
| 21:50.29 | Primer | ) |
| 21:50.33 | clad|sleep | that's because Cart and TomTom use the same modifier |
| 21:50.37 | clad|sleep | you can change it in the options |
| 21:50.54 | clad|sleep | TomTom -> World Map -> Create note modifier |
| 21:50.55 | neRd`zZz | I don't have the raid frames anymore with you're ui p^3lim :( |
| 21:50.56 | neRd`zZz | uf |
| 21:51.03 | Primer | ahh thanks |
| 21:51.15 | Primer | Oh, clad, you're the author! |
| 21:51.27 | Primer | just the guy I wanted to talk to. I want to rip some of your code for my addon |
| 21:51.58 | clad|sleep | ? |
| 21:52.07 | clad|sleep | such as? |
| 21:52.10 | Primer | perhaps a simple starting question: Is there a way for me to reuse your code with my own waypoints variable? |
| 21:52.14 | sb | dont chat while sleeping! :/ |
| 21:52.37 | clad|sleep | yeah, you can call into TomTom and set your own waypoints that aren't goverened by TomTom |
| 21:52.50 | Primer | excellent |
| 21:53.37 | Primer | I just need something that'll do the heavy lifting as far as managing the points and calculations of distance and ETA |
| 21:53.43 | clad|sleep | TomTom:SetCustomWaypoint(c,z,x,y,callback,minimap,world, silent) |
| 21:53.50 | Primer | perfect |
| 21:53.53 | clad|sleep | it's not well documented, but I'm always here |
| 21:54.03 | clad|sleep | it provides quite a flexible callback system |
| 21:54.04 | Primer | I'll also need bearing, but I suppose I could calculate that |
| 21:54.16 | Primer | unless it does it too |
| 21:54.23 | clad|sleep | angle you can get |
| 21:54.32 | Primer | yeah, duh |
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| 21:54.40 | clad|sleep | you may want to look at astrolabe tho |
| 21:54.41 | Primer | the arrow needs it, so yeah |
| 21:54.52 | clad|sleep | thats the library I use, and it may do what you want |
| 21:55.03 | clad|sleep | you need to do a bit of lifting on your own, and if you dont want to rewrite that you can use tomtom |
| 21:55.50 | Primer | well, I was hoping to be able to feed a waypoint into a library and have it return to me the things I need in my onupdate, namely: distance, ETA, and angle |
| 21:56.28 | clad|sleep | well Astrolabe does that |
| 21:56.30 | clad|sleep | if you're calling into it |
| 21:56.36 | Primer | it's for this: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/flight-hud/ in case you're curious |
| 21:56.53 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79625 10FuBar_FriendsFu/ (FuBar_FriendsFu.toc FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.ruRU.lua): |
| 21:56.53 | CIA-45 | FuBar_FriendsFu |
| 21:56.53 | CIA-45 | added ruRU translations, credit Ynitron |
| 21:56.57 | clad|sleep | ah then all you need is astrolabe really |
| 21:57.15 | clad|sleep | tho you could certainly use TomTom if you wanted |
| 21:57.24 | clad|sleep | I suggest you take a look at it, it's really good. |
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| 21:58.18 | clad|sleep | and looks fun :P |
| 21:58.59 | Archarodim | I've just revamped the UnitFlag explanation http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitFlag |
| 21:59.25 | Archarodim | Can other devs tell me if it's easier to understand ? |
| 21:59.26 | p3lim | Anyone know if ZoneText and SubZoneText always is valid? |
| 22:01.46 | ckknight | valid how? |
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| 22:04.54 | p3lim | Is there always a subzone? |
| 22:05.05 | ckknight | I believe no |
| 22:05.16 | p3lim | But there is always a Zone? |
| 22:05.40 | ckknight | yes, but I prefer GetRealZoneText() rather than GetZoneText() |
| 22:06.25 | p3lim | ah yeah thats true |
| 22:08.28 | p3lim | http://pastey.net/92932 should do |
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| 22:10.34 | Ominous_ | lol sorry about all that connecting and disconnecting |
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| 22:11.03 | ckknight | Ominous: you'd better be! |
| 22:11.06 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:11.35 | ckknight | p3lim: start off with SetText, not AddLine, imo |
| 22:15.06 | thul | Ellipsis: make a ui compilation for me :-( PLZ! |
| 22:15.13 | p3lim | ckknight: how come? |
| 22:15.27 | ckknight | seems cleaner to me |
| 22:15.30 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:15.32 | ckknight | do what you want, though |
| 22:15.46 | ckknight | shouldn't make a difference |
| 22:15.59 | p3lim | There is no SetDoubleText or whatever, so as I deal with tooltips i use AddLine :) |
| 22:16.15 | p3lim | that seems cleaner to me :) |
| 22:16.40 | p3lim | You know if blizzard keeps a table of colors for hostile/friendly zones? |
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| 22:19.20 | neRd` | Why with that code, i can't see my cpoints ? > http://pastey.net/92933-2w90 |
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| 22:21.15 | p3lim | neRd`: Probably 'cause you havent set the local "unitclass" called twice in line1 |
| 22:21.24 | p3lim | that'd be my guess atleast |
| 22:21.54 | neRd` | how i do that ? :o |
| 22:22.15 | p3lim | local unitclass = select(2, UnitClass("player")) |
| 22:22.20 | p3lim | before line 1 |
| 22:22.44 | neRd` | I'm gonne try, thanks ;) |
| 22:23.24 | Hjalte | Is there an addon that tells me what a certain mouse button is bound to? |
| 22:23.40 | p3lim | Hjalte: Esc > Key Bindings |
| 22:23.49 | neRd` | It's working p3lim, thansk ;) |
| 22:23.50 | Hjalte | p3lim: It's not there. |
| 22:23.57 | p3lim | Sec |
| 22:24.15 | Hjalte | p3lim: It could be bound through another addon like Clique etc., then it doesnt show up in the keybindings. |
| 22:24.28 | p3lim | Hjalte: Look through your WTF folder for "bindings-cache.wtf" |
| 22:24.47 | Primer | I must have an old version of TomTom |
| 22:24.56 | Primer | and...I can't find it using JWU |
| 22:24.57 | Primer | hrmm |
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| 22:25.33 | Hjalte | p3lim: Found it, I think. Thanks. |
| 22:25.44 | p3lim | :) |
| 22:26.00 | p3lim | You can open it with WordPad etc (if youre a win user) |
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| 22:31.23 | p3lim | ckknight: Seems Blizzard uses GetZonePVPInfo() instead |
| 22:31.29 | ckknight | alright |
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| 22:36.44 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatic1: pong |
| 22:36.53 | Primer | clad|sleep: TomTom still doesn't show an icon in the map frame |
| 22:37.06 | cncfanatic1 | Arrowmaster: on the quickhealth thread on EJ |
| 22:37.08 | Primer | I updated to the latest, and now it shows in the minimap, but not the main map |
| 22:37.12 | cncfanatic1 | I wanted confirmation wether that guy was right or not |
| 22:37.16 | cncfanatic1 | I doubt it, but you never know |
| 22:37.28 | neRd` | How with this code " http://pastey.net/92933-2w90 " i can make cpoints be at the right of my player unit frame ? |
| 22:37.30 | Arrowmaster | huh |
| 22:37.31 | Primer | clad|sleep: perhaps a conflict with Cartographer? |
| 22:37.32 | Arrowmaster | i just woke up |
| 22:37.43 | cncfanatic1 | "From what I understand, this library checks it's own calculation with the calculation by the server, but that server info very often doesn't include the latest combat log infos, making it think it is wrong. It will then use that false data to do the next calculation, which is potentially also wrong. The original Instant Health remembers the last few combat logs and calculates backwards to check the math." |
| 22:37.48 | cncfanatic1 | thats bullshit, right ? |
| 22:38.11 | clad|sleep | Primer: probably, what version of cart? cart has and does all sorts of nasty business with the map =/ |
| 22:39.06 | Primer | always the latest...using JWU to update it |
| 22:39.23 | clad|sleep | not sure what to tell you |
| 22:39.26 | Diao | whoever is feeding that poster info doesn't know code at all |
| 22:39.29 | clad|sleep | i fixed the issues with cart/tomtom a while ago |
| 22:39.37 | Primer | it's ok, I just thought you'd want to know |
| 22:39.45 | ckknight | Cart and TomTom should work fine together |
| 22:39.46 | clad|sleep | thanks, i'll try to look into it. |
| 22:39.48 | Primer | I'm just going over what TomTom does |
| 22:39.49 | ckknight | both Cart2 and Cart3 |
| 22:39.52 | clad|sleep | ckknight: aye, they should |
| 22:39.57 | clad|sleep | ckknight: that's why i dunno |
| 22:40.06 | Primer | let me try to replicate it again, to be sure |
| 22:40.24 | Primer | well, I did it while in Shat |
| 22:40.32 | cncfanatic1 | Diao: thing is |
| 22:40.33 | Primer | let me try a different zone |
| 22:40.39 | cncfanatic1 | the original instanthealth DOES keep a history |
| 22:40.42 | cncfanatic1 | and it does also backtrack |
| 22:40.48 | cncfanatics | I checked the code |
| 22:40.59 | Diao | yeah |
| 22:41.07 | Diao | but |
| 22:41.30 | Diao | checking calculations with server and getting wrong info? wtf |
| 22:41.32 | cncfanatics | to me, it makes no sense UnitHealth not being right when the event triggers though |
| 22:41.43 | Primer | heh, I can't even create any tomtom points outside of Shat |
| 22:41.52 | clad|sleep | yeah i have no idea what you'r edoing |
| 22:41.54 | Primer | I changed the modifier to alt |
| 22:41.55 | cncfanatics | as Aii explained, its accuracy decays over time untill the next trigger |
| 22:41.56 | Arrowmaster | "InstantHealth has code to store a history for some reason but the only code that uses it is so messed up its hard to figure out what its ment to do." |
| 22:41.58 | Arrowmaster | my reply |
| 22:42.11 | clad|sleep | don't click on the world map |
| 22:42.13 | clad|sleep | use the /way command |
| 22:42.16 | clad|sleep | if nothing else |
| 22:42.17 | p3lim | http://pastey.net/92934 prettier |
| 22:42.21 | clad|sleep | i'm going to bed |
| 22:42.22 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: rofl |
| 22:42.24 | Primer | I'm in Terokkar, I pulled up the map, alt-rightclick on a spot |
| 22:42.27 | Primer | nothing happens |
| 22:42.27 | clad|sleep | let me know if you run into an issue. |
| 22:42.38 | clad|sleep | Primer: disable everything except cart and tomtom |
| 22:42.41 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: did you try to figure out what the UNIT_HEALTH handler does |
| 22:42.46 | clad|sleep | basic troubleshooting steps, not much I can do for you from my end |
| 22:42.49 | Arrowmaster | thats like the most fucked up part of the code |
| 22:43.21 | Primer | clad|sleep: heh, I don't know why I'm even bothering with this...I just wanted to see it do its thing |
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| 22:45.03 | Primer | Anyhow, guess I'll start adding shit to my addon |
| 22:45.16 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79626 10Recount/ (Recount.toc locales/Recount-ruRU.lua): |
| 22:45.16 | CIA-45 | Recount: |
| 22:45.16 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU localization |
| 22:47.06 | Arrowmaster | anybody get beta key yet? |
| 22:47.32 | Primer | I have one |
| 22:48.27 | p3lim | from the giveaway? |
| 22:48.54 | NeoTron_ | I'd expect not until late tonight or weekend/after weekend |
| 22:49.02 | NeoTron_ | since today is the last day for blizzcon keys etc |
| 22:49.15 | Primer | clad|sleep: well done with TomTom and SetCustomWayPoints...seems this is exactly what I was looking for |
| 22:49.25 | Primer | no, I have friends in low places |
| 22:50.46 | Harshmage | Anyone know of an all-in-one bag/bank addon that's working for Wrath? |
| 22:51.55 | sylvanaar | i gave up on the keys for another week |
| 22:52.56 | ckknight | Harshmage: Kaelten is working on one |
| 22:53.04 | ckknight | OneBag3 |
| 22:53.13 | Dashkal | hrm, I might have to go back to onebag... |
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| 22:53.35 | Harshmage | ace svn? |
| 22:53.46 | NeoTron_ | Primer: so do I but mine haven't gotten any keys to give out since alpha started. /cry |
| 22:53.51 | NeoTron_ | and I wasn't close enough for alpha |
| 22:54.07 | ulic | Gotta give StingerSoft some credit, he sure is dedicated to getting stuff good for RU |
| 22:54.42 | fewyn | anyone having any issues with WAU using up a ton of CPU when it obviously doesn't need to be? |
| 22:56.10 | ramoz | Tekkub: ping? |
| 22:56.47 | Tekkub | ow |
| 22:56.51 | Primer | fewyn: I stopped using WAU long ago, when it started crashing the .net runtime repeatedly |
| 22:57.01 | Primer | uses JWU now |
| 22:57.05 | NeoTron_ | does too. |
| 22:57.08 | NeoTron_ | but not for long |
| 22:57.16 | fewyn | Primer: good for you =p I like WAU until the new Curse client is done |
| 22:57.18 | NeoTron_ | when is the whole wowace thing scheduled to happen? is it scheduled? |
| 22:57.31 | fewyn | sometime in the near future |
| 22:57.43 | fewyn | mid-August was the last thing kaelten said about it |
| 22:57.49 | Saroz_ | !lua ("Saroz-Foobar"):match("(.+)%-") |
| 22:57.53 | fewyn | we'll know an offical date sometime soon i think |
| 22:58.06 | ckknight | lua> ("Saroz-Foobar"):match("(.+)%-") |
| 22:58.07 | lua_bot | ckknight: Saroz |
| 22:58.12 | Primer | fewyn: just saying...the WAU code may be ok, but it's riding atop an unstable platform |
| 22:58.23 | Saroz_ | lua> ("Saroz"):match("(.+)%-") or "foo" |
| 22:58.24 | lua_bot | Saroz_: foo |
| 22:58.41 | fewyn | Yea I agree, just been randomly using a ton of CPU everytime I open it lately and do nothing but hog at it |
| 23:01.25 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79627 10Recount/locales/Recount-ruRU.lua: |
| 23:01.25 | CIA-45 | Recount: |
| 23:01.25 | CIA-45 | - |
| 23:04.29 | NeoTron_ | I REALLY hope the mac client will be there |
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| 23:18.46 | sylvanaar | fewyn i dont have any cpu issues |
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| 23:20.16 | sylvanaar | fewyn though mine isnt displaying an ad either |
| 23:20.24 | sylvanaar | fewyn for whatever reason |
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| 23:25.41 | Zeksie | ooh. they added threat stuff to the latest patch. |
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| 23:26.54 | Aii | orly |
| 23:27.04 | Zeksie | yarly. |
| 23:27.18 | Zeksie | UnitFrame.lua: if ( event == "UNIT_THREAT_LIST_UPDATE" or event == "UNIT_THREAT_SITUATION_UPDATE" ) then |
| 23:27.20 | Zeksie | etc. |
| 23:28.29 | Aii | innnnnnteresting |
| 23:28.45 | Vulcanus | inturdisting |
| 23:32.14 | ckknight | I just made http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/pitbull4/ if anyone cares. It doesn't actually do anything really, since nothing tells it to create frames or place them anywhere or anything :-P |
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| 23:34.16 | Diao | pitbull 4? o_O |
| 23:34.35 | Diao | oh |
| 23:35.04 | Primer | clad|sleep: In SetCustomWaypoint, is there no way to make the arrow not show? I don't see anything obvious in the custom callbacks |
| 23:35.27 | Aii | i thought the arrow was a user pref? |
| 23:35.58 | ckknight | Diao: read the description |
| 23:36.01 | Diao | ah |
| 23:36.05 | NeoTron_ | Zeksie: hmmm... |
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| 23:36.13 | Diao | what were pitbull 1 and 2, if 3 is the current implementation |
| 23:36.26 | ckknight | 3 is the rock version |
| 23:36.30 | ckknight | 2 was the Ace2 version |
| 23:36.36 | ckknight | not sure what 1 was |
| 23:36.38 | Diao | rofl |
| 23:36.40 | ckknight | it's in the svn log somewhere |
| 23:36.41 | Primer | Aii: I was hoping to use that TomTom function to create my own custom waypoint |
| 23:36.45 | ckknight | I just know that we're up to 3 |
| 23:36.49 | Diao | i should've known 2 was ace2 |
| 23:36.49 | ckknight | so I had to increase |
| 23:36.52 | Diao | cause i was using it since then |
| 23:36.53 | Primer | I display my waypoint differently |
| 23:37.19 | Diao | well, as soon as it's in a usable state, let me know ckknight |
| 23:37.23 | Diao | i'll be glad to test it |
| 23:37.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:37.49 | ckknight | in any event, I invite anyone who would like to clone it and hack on it to their heart's content |
| 23:37.51 | Diao | will it be rock libs still or ace3? |
| 23:37.52 | Primer | looks like I'm not going to be able to escape rolling my own |
| 23:37.57 | ckknight | Diao: neither |
| 23:37.59 | Diao | or some new lib |
| 23:38.12 | ckknight | nope |
| 23:38.15 | ckknight | framework-less |
| 23:38.26 | Diao | ah |
| 23:38.42 | NeoTron_ | man you need A LOT more rating to get to the same level on gear |
| 23:38.45 | NeoTron_ | at level 80 |
| 23:39.06 | NeoTron_ | glad we have 3% spell hit from talents and 3% spell hit from the boomkin |
| 23:40.33 | Arrowmaster | somebody buy me a blizcon ticket |
| 23:40.38 | Arrowmaster | i want polarbear mount |
| 23:40.50 | Diao | i'd buy a blizzcon ticket but it'd probably be in the middle of midterms for me |
| 23:40.53 | Diao | :( |
| 23:42.46 | TNZe | hmmmm |
| 23:42.52 | TNZe | ckknight, are yo in beta? |
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| 23:42.59 | TNSe | släps Antiarc around a bit with a large 'ZIG'! |
| 23:43.05 | ckknight | yea, I am |
| 23:43.07 | TNSe | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t14903-wrath_lich_king_stuff_blizzcon_thread/p251/#post838205 |
| 23:43.10 | TNSe | confirm? |
| 23:44.03 | Aiiane | 10[16:25] Zeksie: 01UnitFrame.lua: |
| 23:44.03 | Aiiane | if ( event == "UNIT_THREAT_LIST_UPDATE" or event == "UNIT_THREAT_SITUATION_UPDATE" ) then |
| 23:44.04 | Saroz_ | give curse beta key |
| 23:44.05 | Saroz_ | fgs |
| 23:44.28 | NeoTron_ | confirmed |
| 23:44.31 | ckknight | downloading patch |
| 23:44.32 | TNSe | so threat meter will show a % |
| 23:44.34 | TNSe | neato |
| 23:44.36 | NeoTron_ | will make omen 3... A LOT nicer eh? |
| 23:44.40 | ckknight | awesomesauce |
| 23:44.43 | Aiiane | http://wowcompares.com/3018681/FrameXML/UnitFrame.lua |
| 23:44.43 | NeoTron_ | indeed |
| 23:44.59 | TNSe | basically, dont go above 110% and you're fine in melee range |
| 23:45.07 | TNSe | pretty nice |
| 23:45.12 | NeoTron_ | I wonder how that works from a tank perspective though |
| 23:45.17 | TNSe | tank should see 100% |
| 23:45.27 | NeoTron_ | still need to get an absolute level of threat |
| 23:45.28 | Antiarc | Whoa damn. |
| 23:45.32 | TNSe | basically, dps meters could work in TPS instead |
| 23:45.33 | Antiarc | I need to log on and check that. |
| 23:45.35 | Aiiane | dunno if that's the latest version i linked tho |
| 23:45.40 | ckknight | waves at Antiarc |
| 23:45.53 | Antiarc | Herro. |
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| 23:46.18 | NeoTron_ | I'm guessing the display on there is "blizzard simple" but the exact details will be available |
| 23:46.27 | TNSe | % is enough for me :P |
| 23:46.35 | Antiarc | % is enough for 99.9% of people |
| 23:46.35 | TNSe | I'm sure dps meters will add tps meters |
| 23:46.40 | TNSe | if threat meters are history. |
| 23:46.45 | NeoTron_ | Antiarc: not for tanks |
| 23:46.48 | Antiarc | I'm going to be elated if we actually get full threat percentages |
| 23:46.49 | Antiarc | Why? |
| 23:46.50 | TNSe | if you get %'s TPS meter is all you need |
| 23:46.56 | NeoTron_ | because they will always be at "100%"? |
| 23:47.02 | Antiarc | So? |
| 23:47.04 | TNSe | they just need to know their tps |
| 23:47.10 | NeoTron_ | you have to know what others are relative to you |
| 23:47.11 | Antiarc | You set up a meter to synch positions |
| 23:47.14 | TNSe | if their tps is 91% of top raid tps |
| 23:47.18 | TNSe | then they will maintain aggro lead |
| 23:47.21 | Antiarc | Tada, traditional bar style graphs |
| 23:47.34 | NeoTron_ | my point is, you still need to sync the data |
| 23:47.37 | NeoTron_ | and tps is still nice |
| 23:47.45 | TNSe | yeah, but tps can be worked into dps meters |
| 23:47.46 | TNSe | easily. |
| 23:47.50 | Antiarc | Not really. |
| 23:47.54 | Matrix110| | Other things than % is just needed in the start pretty much, so you know if you can shoot your nuke directly or not resto of the time % is enough |
| 23:48.00 | NeoTron_ | with accurate absolute threat data you can predict if the next shadow bolt will pull aggro or not |
| 23:48.04 | Antiarc | There's nothing "easy" about threat calculations :P |
| 23:48.13 | TNSe | heh |
| 23:48.38 | TNSe | but yeah, go to work on the lua's and figure out how much info you really get |
| 23:48.44 | NeoTron_ | Matrix110|: except often you're right behind the tank and will sit at 99-100% constantly |
| 23:48.48 | Arrowmaster | also just having % alone will improve data gathering enough to make threat more accurate even if it didnt use it |
| 23:48.48 | TNSe | even tho a % is a very nice fix.. |
| 23:48.52 | NeoTron_ | or rather 110/140% |
| 23:48.57 | NeoTron_ | 130 even |
| 23:49.02 | Antiarc | The % thing is going to be enough of a key that we can unlock everything |
| 23:49.03 | NeoTron_ | percent alone is nice but it's not accurate |
| 23:49.09 | TNSe | hehe |
| 23:49.13 | TNSe | Antiarc, so what are you gonna test first :P |
| 23:49.15 | NeoTron_ | it's just as useless as the "warn when I'm at 95%" in Omen |
| 23:49.23 | Antiarc | First I'm gonna run Wow.exe through strings :P |
| 23:49.30 | TNSe | heh |
| 23:49.31 | NeoTron_ | early on you can pull when you're at 50%. later on you need 99.9999% etc |
| 23:49.43 | TNSe | I mean, what threat thing have you yet not discovered :P |
| 23:49.55 | Antiarc | NeoTron: If you synch %s then you can project relative threat velocities |
| 23:50.01 | Antiarc | Which means you can project overtake time |
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| 23:50.19 | Arrowmaster | a lot of threat info isnt known |
| 23:50.24 | Arrowmaster | just guessed |
| 23:50.25 | Antiarc | TNSe: There are about a million and a half small things that make threat info very rough |
| 23:50.28 | TNSe | lol |
| 23:50.31 | TNSe | that bad? |
| 23:50.34 | Antiarc | Yes. |
| 23:50.38 | NeoTron_ | Antiarc: except percent is not high enough resolution |
| 23:50.38 | Antiarc | It's an extraordinarily complex beast. |
| 23:50.49 | Antiarc | NeoTron: It's high enough for these purposes, IMO :) |
| 23:50.54 | TNSe | atleast we can get spriest threat nailed eventually now :P |
| 23:50.57 | Matrix110| | Most stuff is just accurate guess work that is working so far :P |
| 23:51.06 | NeoTron_ | it's like saying that percent is good for mobhealth, why would you ever want the exact number? :P |
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| 23:51.18 | Arrowmaster | % is enough to increase the accuraty of Threat-3.0 enough to make it worthwile |
| 23:51.25 | TNSe | well |
| 23:51.27 | TNSe | with %'s... |
| 23:51.29 | NeoTron_ | not saying it's a drawback |
| 23:51.33 | Antiarc | .?AUUnitThreat@@ |
| 23:51.35 | NeoTron_ | just saying I hope we'll get the absolute numbers |
| 23:51.37 | TNSe | only the current aggro holder needs to broadcast his threat right? |
| 23:51.38 | Antiarc | .?AV?$TSExplicitList@UTHREATMAP@CGGameUI@@$0?CCCCCCCD@@@ |
| 23:51.42 | Antiarc | .?AV?$TSExplicitList@UUnitThreat@@$0?CCCCCCCD@@@ |
| 23:51.45 | NeoTron_ | which will be absofuckinglutely awesome |
| 23:51.46 | Antiarc | WHY HELLO THAR |
| 23:51.53 | NeoTron_ | see there |
| 23:51.56 | Arrowmaster | UnitThreat()! |
| 23:51.59 | Antiarc | I'll almost guarantee we won't get absolute numbers |
| 23:52.00 | Archarodim | hmm this smells like there going to implement there own threat metter for every player to use |
| 23:52.02 | NeoTron_ | UnitThreat('Me', 'You') |
| 23:52.16 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: they did |
| 23:52.17 | TNSe | UTHREATMAP? |
| 23:52.20 | NeoTron_ | Archarodim: welcome to... months ago? we knew they planned it. now they did |
| 23:52.21 | Antiarc | Archarodim: They said they wanted to |
| 23:52.27 | TNSe | UnitThreat('Unit') returns UNITTHREATMAP? |
| 23:52.28 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: see http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t14903-wrath_lich_king_stuff_blizzcon_thread/p251/#post838205 |
| 23:52.30 | Antiarc | We just hadn't heard anything about it until today. |
| 23:52.51 | TNSe | so you get a full list for every mob on all that are on aggro list? O_o |
| 23:52.58 | TNSe | or? |
| 23:53.00 | Archarodim | ah ok ^^ |
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| 23:53.07 | NeoTron_ | TNSe: remains to be seen? |
| 23:53.16 | TNSe | see see! :P |
| 23:53.37 | TNSe | well, considering blizzard caved in and gave us exact unit healths |
| 23:53.45 | Aiiane | my guess is that it will probably work identical to unit_health, except instead of returning the health on a given unit it'll return your current threat on it |
| 23:53.50 | TNSe | it might be a chance they give us exact threat as well, as we'll have to use addons to get it exact.... |
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| 23:54.22 | ckknight | I need a framexml diff |
| 23:54.29 | Archarodim | I also just discovered they implemented a calendar in the latest patch to schedule raid events |
| 23:54.42 | Aiiane | old news :P |
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| 23:54.53 | Matrix110| | Blizzard doesnt want people to have that data normally, but because of threatmeters giving a advantage to the users they implement it to give everyone atleast something usefull |
| 23:55.01 | TNSe | ye |
| 23:55.09 | TNSe | like enemy cast bars |
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| 23:55.25 | Shefki | At this point they've implemented fights that are almost impossible to do without threat meters. |
| 23:55.29 | Arrowmaster | somebody wake clad|sleep up so he can run his special diff thingy on the new patch |
| 23:55.31 | NeoTron_ | TNSe: they had those in alpha, possibly beta |
| 23:55.35 | NeoTron_ | I hated when they removed them :P |
| 23:55.37 | Antiarc | attempt to call global 'UnitThreat' (a nil value) |
| 23:55.38 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 23:55.50 | andross_ | Shefki, no kidding... wiping 6 times in a row because our tank refused to use omen |
| 23:55.52 | Aiiane | maybe not fully implemented yet |
| 23:55.53 | andross_ | on prince |
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| 23:55.59 | Antiarc | It's showing in tooltips |
| 23:56.08 | jaxdahl2 | i did prince without threat meters |
| 23:56.14 | Matrix110| | No current Boss needs threatmeters... |
| 23:56.16 | Shefki | I was thinking Bloodboil. |
| 23:56.16 | NeoTron_ | they have already stated that threat will be a much lesser issue in wotlk |
| 23:56.17 | Matrix110| | But they help |
| 23:56.21 | NeoTron_ | still an issue but not as much |
| 23:56.26 | Aiiane | Antiarc: sure, but that doesnt necessarily mean the /full/ api is implemented |
| 23:56.35 | andross_ | if your tank is really good at generating threat it's ok... but if they're geared on the same scale as the rest of the raid you'll have problems |
| 23:56.36 | NeoTron_ | Matrix110|: none need it but going without makes you feel naked :P |
| 23:56.51 | jaxdahl2 | if threat meters didn't exist, you could do bloodboil by writing an addon that keeps track of knockbacks and doing some rule of thumb stuff |
| 23:57.03 | Matrix110| | Not even that is needed... |
| 23:57.05 | Shefki | That would be a threat meter... lol |
| 23:57.09 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron_: speaking of threat being less of an issue in wotlk, my affliction spec is 1 point off and it seems i need to drop a point from imp drain soul =( |
| 23:57.17 | Shefki | Just a much more simplistic meter. |
| 23:58.25 | NeoTron_ | Shefki: that assumes all tanks are equal? :P |
| 23:58.32 | TNSe | heh |
| 23:58.33 | NeoTron_ | Arrowmaster: I am not looking at specs atm |
| 23:58.41 | TNSe | atleast this will help nail threat dumping mobs/bosses |
| 23:58.49 | NeoTron_ | but I'm 75% sure I'll go destruction + imp, 25% chance of demo if it's good |
| 23:58.50 | TNSe | bigtime |
| 23:58.50 | Shefki | NeoTron_: Just because it's not accurate doesn't mean it's not an attempt at estimating threat. |
| 23:59.01 | ckknight | UnitThreatSituation("unit") and UnitThreatSituation("relUnit", "unit") |
| 23:59.46 | NeoTron_ | UnitThreatSituation? Does that return the full details of all threat on that unit? |
