| 00:01.30 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79299 10Deadened/Modules/oUF_Castbar.lua: Deadened: Update to oUF_Castbar module to reflect an oUF change |
| 00:01.43 | Ikz` | Trinity Bars has a function that does it but it only applies to buttons. Making invisible buttons is a real big pain. |
| 00:02.02 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79300 10oUF_Castbar/oUF_Castbar.lua: oUF_Castbar: Update to reflect change made to oUF |
| 00:03.57 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79301 10oUF_ReadyCheck/oUF_ReadyCheck.lua: oUF_ReadyCheck: Update to reflect change made to oUF |
| 00:04.12 | p3lim | nice, thanks |
| 00:04.29 | starlon | np |
| 00:06.06 | AcTiVaTe | Ikz`: Invisible buttons? What are you trying to bind? |
| 00:06.29 | Ikz` | Everything. |
| 00:07.05 | p3lim | Ikz`: oBindings |
| 00:07.06 | AcTiVaTe | So why won't Trinity 2 work then? |
| 00:07.15 | p3lim | but its on release, not push |
| 00:07.31 | Ikz` | It's just a pain to have to do it that way. p3lim, oBindings has a down-clicks option? |
| 00:07.36 | p3lim | no |
| 00:07.43 | Ikz` | ..so why'd you suggest it? |
| 00:07.53 | p3lim | but it gives the "invisible buttons" thing you wanted |
| 00:08.04 | Ikz` | Uhm, that's what I'm actually trying to avoid. |
| 00:08.11 | p3lim | oh.. lol |
| 00:08.30 | AcTiVaTe | is stumped.. Trinity can do downclicks and the buttons created are visible |
| 00:08.37 | Ikz` | My beef with doing this with Trinity Bars 2.0 is that I'd have to make a button for everything I want to bind and then make it invisible, which is a big pain if I have to change anything. |
| 00:08.54 | p3lim | why do you have to make it invisible? |
| 00:08.58 | Ikz` | I wish there was an addon that just did bindings directly that would do down-clicks |
| 00:09.00 | AcTiVaTe | Again, what do you want to bind? spells? macros? |
| 00:09.04 | Ikz` | Everything. |
| 00:09.07 | Ikz` | All that. |
| 00:09.07 | CIA-45 | picofriends: 03Tekkub 07master * r3aa3f73 10/ picoFriends.lua : Add support for the note field |
| 00:09.12 | AcTiVaTe | So open the macro window |
| 00:09.14 | Ikz` | Spells, macros, anything I can do. |
| 00:09.16 | AcTiVaTe | or the spellbook and bind em |
| 00:09.20 | Ikz` | That's the thing |
| 00:09.20 | AcTiVaTe | No need for buttons |
| 00:09.25 | Ikz` | Trinity Bars only supports it for buttons. |
| 00:09.27 | AcTiVaTe | You can do the bindings in the spellbook |
| 00:09.35 | Ikz` | Direct binds do not have the down click feature |
| 00:09.59 | Xinhuan | as far as i know, spellcasting and stuff all activate on up-click, there's no way you can do it down-click |
| 00:10.10 | Xinhuan | well the secure template stuff anyway |
| 00:10.35 | Ikz` | Xin: The issue is not finding an addon that will do down-clicks, because as I said, Trinity Bars DOES do it. |
| 00:10.48 | Ikz` | The issue is convenience. It's definitely a pain in the ass to have to make a bunch of invisible buttons. |
| 00:11.10 | Ikz` | I'll do it if I can't find an alternative though. |
| 00:11.55 | Xinhuan | i don't know of any other such addon, sorry |
| 00:15.34 | Warcraft3 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9556-RaidExcuseGenerator.html lol |
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| 00:18.02 | CIA-45 | 03neotron * r79302 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: MagicTargets: Since defensive stance doesn't have an aura debuff, count any warrior with a shield as a tank. Also check to see if Paladins with righteous fury have a shield, just in case. |
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| 00:18.43 | Zhinjio | ~seen Ackis |
| 00:18.46 | purl | ackis is currently on #wowuidev (1d 5h 54m 49s) #wowace (1d 5h 54m 49s) #curseforge (1d 5h 54m 49s) #wowwiki (1d 5h 54m 49s). Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 1d 5h 3m 54s, last said: 'it doesn't throw errors :P'. |
| 00:20.54 | abug | ~seen purl |
| 00:20.55 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (13d 5h 36m 56s) #botpark (13d 5h 36m 56s) #linuxfund (13d 5h 36m 56s) #edev (13d 5h 36m 56s) #fossfund (13d 5h 36m 56s) #hosernet (13d 5h 36m 56s) #norganna (13d 5h 36m 56s) #ud (13d 5h 36m 56s) ##kierra (13d 5h 36m 56s) #dub (13d 5h 36m 56s) #teleconf (13d 5h 36m 56s) #openezx (13d 5h 36m 56s) #pegasos.org (13d 5h 36m ... |
| 00:21.26 | Kuosi | p3lim: there? |
| 00:21.30 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert * r79303 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 00:21.30 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 00:21.30 | CIA-45 | - more proper uid-calculation for combatevents |
| 00:21.33 | p3lim | yep |
| 00:22.12 | Kuosi | from ur ouf layout, why does my ToT change size when I remove debuffs from it |
| 00:22.40 | p3lim | no idea :p |
| 00:22.50 | Kuosi | im confused :( |
| 00:23.54 | Kuosi | meh gonna look into it tomorrow |
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| 00:30.36 | p3lim | hm |
| 00:30.51 | p3lim | why does it say my addon got updated 2 days ago? lies! |
| 00:30.58 | p3lim | (files.wowace.com) |
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| 00:31.36 | Kuosi | in mother russia wowace updates you |
| 00:32.37 | Funkeh` | no, that's pretty much everywhere |
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| 00:35.32 | p3lim | no wait, that was my change >_< |
| 00:35.43 | Ellipsis | ~fail p3lim |
| 00:35.43 | purl | p3lim, you Fail! |
| 00:35.50 | p3lim | ~fail |
| 00:35.51 | purl | Sorry, p3lim, you have failed. |
| 00:36.16 | p3lim | ponders |
| 00:36.22 | p3lim | why is files.wowace.com so slow+ |
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| 00:36.42 | Funkeh` | p3lim, well, did you donate last month? |
| 00:36.47 | Ellipsis | it was dropped on its head as a baby |
| 00:37.02 | p3lim | Funkeh`: crap, forgot |
| 00:37.08 | Funkeh` | that's why |
| 00:37.21 | p3lim | low bandwidth sucks |
| 00:37.45 | p3lim | but aint that curseforge's problem? :s |
| 00:38.02 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 00:38.59 | Ellipsis | purrs |
| 00:43.56 | ckknight | p3lim: not yet |
| 00:47.52 | Xinhuan | "The AddonGnome knows how many addons you use. And it is not the right amount. OBEY the AddonGnome!" |
| 00:48.00 | Xinhuan | "The Gnome shall comment on how many addons you have each time you log in. " |
| 00:48.01 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:59.04 | p3lim | I liked it, but its hard to trigger the last few comments |
| 00:59.12 | p3lim | like, who the hell has 300 loaded addons? :S |
| 01:01.44 | Stanzilla | many people :P |
| 01:02.15 | Stanzilla | if you count modules and disembedded libs etc |
| 01:03.13 | ccKep | Lifetime (08/05/07 - 07/06/08): 96% of raids <<< cheer attendence, woot |
| 01:03.53 | Funkeh` | go outside |
| 01:04.01 | ccKep | yep, just doing that |
| 01:04.25 | ccKep | writing a post for raid-absence ^.^ |
| 01:07.30 | Aiiane | taking your laptop out to the back porch doesn't count, ccKep |
| 01:07.40 | ccKep | don't have a laptop ;) |
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| 01:28.18 | p3lim | which is the best way of hooking?: http://pastey.net/92594 |
| 01:29.30 | Xinhuan | they are identical |
| 01:30.26 | Xinhuan | merely a storage difference |
| 01:30.33 | Xinhuan | of the old function |
| 01:30.34 | p3lim | one uses a table hook and _AddMessage, other uses _OnEvent hook |
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| 01:31.42 | Xinhuan | they are still identical imo |
| 01:32.04 | p3lim | well ok, but I have to choose one :p |
| 01:32.12 | Dertanion | Antiarc may i have a few moments of your time? |
| 01:33.25 | starlon | p3lim: flip a coin |
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| 01:34.14 | Xinhuan | the first one hooks the addmessage, so it works on everything |
| 01:34.39 | p3lim | and the 2nd one..? |
| 01:34.47 | Xinhuan | the second one hooks the event, which prevents addmessage from even being called, so its "one function higher", but hooking the event may not necessarily hide all errors, since not all errors might be from an error event |
| 01:35.28 | p3lim | well the blacklist contains normal error events |
| 01:37.02 | Xinhuan | i'm saying there might be error messages that aren't events, but added to UIErrorsFrame directly ;p |
| 01:37.59 | p3lim | from what/where? |
| 01:38.08 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 01:38.11 | Xinhuan | hence the "there might be" |
| 01:38.34 | p3lim | in that case it would be other addons, and I dont wanna filter that |
| 01:38.37 | ccKep | don't know if "facing the wrong direction" and such fire events |
| 01:38.40 | ccKep | << noob |
| 01:39.11 | p3lim | i think it does |
| 01:39.17 | Xinhuan | see, i don't know if blizzard code calls UIErrorsFrame:AddMessage() directly from any other part of their UI, u should porbably grep ;p |
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| 01:46.13 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r79304 10Decursive/Dcr_Raid.lua: |
| 01:46.13 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 01:46.13 | CIA-45 | - Probably found a real fix for the problem with playerRID at log-in. ("raid#" unit names are not updated right away at login and if players quit while the user was logged off, raid IDs may not be contiguous) |
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| 01:47.13 | DARKGuy | o/ |
| 01:49.51 | sylvanaar | thats just the default seterrorhandler behavior isnt it |
| 01:53.34 | sylvanaar | oh sorry, thats called ScriptErrors |
| 01:55.19 | sylvanaar | have you used errormonster |
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| 01:57.08 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r79305 10Decursive/Dcr_Raid.lua: |
| 01:57.08 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 01:57.08 | CIA-45 | - clean up |
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| 02:19.24 | ccKep | boooring |
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| 02:29.02 | CIA-45 | 03zeksie * r79306 10XPerl/ (XPerl.lua XPerl.toc changelog.txt localization.lua): |
| 02:29.02 | CIA-45 | XPerl: |
| 02:29.03 | CIA-45 | - Fix problem with LibQuickHealth-1.0 and target frame. |
| 02:29.03 | CIA-45 | - Legacy version bumped to 2.4.3. |
| 02:29.29 | CIA-45 | 03zeksie * r79307 10XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: XPerl_Player: Fix problem with LibQuickHealth-1.0 and target frame. |
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| 03:05.59 | CIA-45 | 03wang * r79308 10SmartMount/Rock_Locale.lua: |
| 03:05.59 | CIA-45 | SmartMount: |
| 03:05.59 | CIA-45 | - zhCN update (u a nice alx ^_^) |
| 03:10.45 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r79309 10TIRaid/ (LICENSE.txt TIRaid.toc): |
| 03:10.45 | CIA-45 | TIRaid: |
| 03:10.45 | CIA-45 | - Updated license |
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| 03:21.01 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/natural-redhead/ |
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| 03:33.08 | Shefki | ckknight: That's seriously messed up. |
| 03:33.15 | ckknight | truth |
| 03:35.03 | Xuerian | I can say that I definitely made the "Aww, man... why...." face when looking at that |
| 03:35.14 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:35.17 | ckknight | <--- natural redhead |
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| 03:35.31 | ckknight | and I'm like |
| 03:35.36 | ckknight | o noes, mah crotch is on fire! |
| 03:35.41 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 03:35.52 | Shefki | I was expecting something umm sexier. |
| 03:38.01 | Xuerian | Seeing as redheaded wimminz are awesome in general, I was too |
| 03:38.12 | Xuerian | was not wimminz. |
| 03:38.15 | Xuerian | Was not awesome. |
| 03:38.17 | Xuerian | >_o |
| 03:39.41 | Xuerian | ps. thinking outside the box is win |
| 03:39.49 | Xuerian | except in this case |
| 03:39.51 | Xuerian | IN WHICH IT IS FAIL |
| 03:39.55 | Xuerian | wanders off |
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| 03:49.29 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r79311 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua: |
| 03:49.29 | CIA-45 | TIRaid: |
| 03:49.29 | CIA-45 | - Added sanity check |
| 03:49.44 | ckknight | http://www.tshirthell.com/images/contestpics/a517_019.jpg |
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| 03:59.56 | CIA-45 | 03p3lim * r79312 10oUF_DruidMana/: |
| 03:59.56 | CIA-45 | oUF_DruidMana: |
| 03:59.56 | CIA-45 | - Moving over to WOWI SVN |
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| 04:03.19 | Daemoen | anyone know of a way to have seperate keybindings per character with bt3 or 4? |
| 04:04.11 | starlon | I need something I can solo that'll generate a lot of combat log events. Any ideas? |
| 04:04.17 | Diao | enable the "character specific keybindings" |
| 04:05.33 | Daemoen | is that a bartender option or a wow option? |
| 04:05.45 | Daemoen | nbm |
| 04:05.49 | Daemoen | ty Diao |
| 04:05.51 | Diao | both |
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| 04:14.06 | Primer | Seems that when the map is locked in cartographer, one can no longer use the right mouse button to zoom in/out |
| 04:14.25 | Primer | I locked it because I'm tired of accidentally resizing it |
| 04:19.31 | Daemoen | hrm... |
| 04:19.44 | Daemoen | jwowupdater finds all the atlasloot modules, but not atlas itself |
| 04:19.45 | Daemoen | wierd |
| 04:20.26 | vithos | atlas is not on wowace |
| 04:20.48 | Daemoen | vithos: whats wowace got to do with jwow :-D |
| 04:20.55 | Daemoen | two seperate projects i thought? |
| 04:21.05 | vithos | jwu will only "find" wowace addons |
| 04:21.11 | Daemoen | ahh |
| 04:21.25 | Daemoen | ok, so atlas itself is non ace, but most of the useful mods are ace? |
| 04:21.43 | vithos | there are tons of useful addons that aren't on wowace |
| 04:21.54 | vithos | you just have to manually set up the updating of those in wju |
| 04:22.00 | vithos | jwu* |
| 04:22.14 | Daemoen | i was referring to the atlas mods :) not mods in general, most of the mods i use are ace based :) |
| 04:22.28 | Daemoen | soon i need to replace xperl with pitbull, just takes time to configure it |
| 04:22.53 | Xuerian | Daemoen: Atlas is a separate project hosted only on release sites, of which wowace isn't one |
| 04:23.28 | Daemoen | Xuerian: nods |
| 04:23.30 | CIA-45 | 03lilsparky * r79313 10GnomeDust/gnomedust.toc: |
| 04:23.30 | CIA-45 | GnomeDust: |
| 04:23.30 | CIA-45 | -updated toc file "x-category" |
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| 04:25.28 | Daemoen | vithos: how do i set it up to update Atlas manually? |
| 04:25.58 | vithos | there's a button like "third party addons" or something |
| 04:26.07 | Daemoen | * goes to browse * |
| 04:26.14 | vithos | you have to go find atlas on curse or wowinterface, and get the ID out of the page url for it |
| 04:27.06 | Daemoen | ok, since a few of you gurus are around... recently dled a mod called autoturnin, problem is its not maintained, really ood, and broken to begin with, anyone know of a working mod that autoturns in quests when at the q handler? |
| 04:31.46 | ccKep | think autoturnin was an aq-opening-quests one-hit-wonder and hasn't been maintained since them - but I dont know any alternatives |
| 04:33.37 | DARKGuy | Daemoen: beql |
| 04:33.52 | DARKGuy | I think |
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| 04:35.42 | CIA-45 | 03cncfanatics * r79314 10LibQuickHealth-1.0/LibQuickHealth-1.0.lua: LibQuickHealth-1.0: stop firing our HealthUpdated callback on UNIT_HEALTH, the goal is to provide updates complementary to UNIT_HEALTH, thus firing on that event is pointless. |
| 04:35.47 | Daemoen | beq1 * goes to google * |
| 04:36.10 | vithos | beql is on wowace but i don't think it does that |
| 04:36.28 | DARKGuy | well it auto completes quest for me |
| 04:36.57 | vithos | hmm.. i used to use it, maybe i just never used that feature or it was added recently |
| 04:37.08 | DARKGuy | I'd check, but my server is down for a sec :P |
| 04:38.29 | DARKGuy | what does the feature Daemoen wants do, though? |
| 04:38.48 | vithos | which quests do you want to automatically complete? |
| 04:38.58 | DARKGuy | o.O |
| 04:39.11 | Daemoen | vithos: i dont want to really "complete" them, just turn them in when i reach the quest assigner and they are already done |
| 04:39.23 | DARKGuy | ohh |
| 04:39.37 | DARKGuy | I haven't seen any addon that does that -yet-. beql can auto complete them though. |
| 04:39.44 | cladhaire | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/1444/ |
| 04:39.46 | cladhaire | perhaps? |
| 04:40.09 | Daemoen | that might work. i had tried one called "auto turnin" and it was broke |
| 04:40.26 | Daemoen | ty cladhaire ill try it now :-D |
| 04:40.56 | cladhaire | :P |
| 04:42.32 | Daemoen | maybe tomorrow ill get some time to sit down and add in pitbull, get rid of some of the addons im not using, and cleanup my interface folder a small little bit :-D |
| 04:42.35 | vithos | i think Automaton has a feature for that as well if you want it for every quest. i use Sick of Clicking Dailies personally, but as you might imagine it's only for certain quests |
| 04:42.53 | Daemoen | something like 240 addons currently in the folder... |
| 04:44.13 | CIA-45 | 03p3lim * r79315 10oUF_P3lim/: |
| 04:44.13 | CIA-45 | oUF_P3lim: |
| 04:44.13 | CIA-45 | - REMOVED |
| 04:44.31 | vithos | p3lim: moving it elsewhere? |
| 04:44.57 | p3lim | WOWI SVN |
| 04:45.05 | p3lim | once its off the beta stage that is |
| 04:45.23 | cladhaire | why on EARTH does oPie hide my aura/shapeshift bar = |
| 04:45.48 | Xuerian | Because it completely replaces it? ... not sure why it *should* hideit though |
| 04:46.08 | cladhaire | well in my case |
| 04:46.11 | cladhaire | middle button was already bound |
| 04:46.12 | cladhaire | so i dont use it |
| 04:46.13 | p3lim | cladhaire: maybe the author uses the addon to replace his shapeshift/aura bar and added that to it |
| 04:46.26 | cladhaire | yeah i guess i just don't get why its not an option :P |
| 04:46.30 | cladhaire | i'll ping foxlit :P |
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| 04:47.30 | cncfanatics | hello folks |
| 04:47.43 | Xuerian | \wave |
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| 04:51.50 | ccKep | retard-warlock from my guild got himself a sweet new destrolock UI |
| 04:51.53 | ccKep | http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3204/wowscrnshot072608004539mc2.jpg |
| 04:52.06 | ccKep | and I actually thing he's serious on that |
| 04:52.37 | Xinhuan | awesome! |
| 04:53.00 | ccKep | pve setup ofc |
| 04:53.06 | ccKep | missing lolcoil and lolfear for pvp :D |
| 04:53.39 | Xinhuan | tekkub |
| 04:53.40 | vithos | shadowbolt and what? |
| 04:53.43 | Tekkub | no |
| 04:53.53 | Xinhuan | talent links aren't being detected by tekhover |
| 04:54.02 | ccKep | lifetap @ vithos |
| 04:54.08 | Tekkub | k |
| 04:54.08 | Xinhuan | or whatever addon your hoverlinks is located in.. tokkompare? |
| 04:54.11 | cncfanatics | rofl ccKep |
| 04:54.13 | Tekkub | yes |
| 04:54.17 | vithos | needs a curse and soul shatter |
| 04:54.17 | cncfanatics | the sad thing is, thats ALL they need for pve |
| 04:54.24 | Xinhuan | they apparently changed the color i think |
| 04:54.25 | ccKep | yeah |
| 04:54.28 | Xinhuan | so talents appear in a darker blue |
| 04:54.34 | ccKep | trinkets and such are just that small "bonus performance" |
| 04:54.44 | cncfanatics | put c, right click trink ^ |
| 04:56.24 | ccKep | he's like "now that I'm destro my UI looks really sweet!" (was afflic before) |
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| 04:59.36 | cncfanatics | functional UI > all |
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| 05:03.55 | Ellipsis | ccKep: isn't every warlock tempted to respec destro just to clean up their UI? |
| 05:04.14 | kappaccino | lolwarlocks |
| 05:04.17 | Ellipsis | dot timers? pfft. action buttons? who needs them? |
| 05:04.21 | ccKep | he refused to specc destro for a long time |
| 05:05.00 | kappaccino | was watching this video of a death knight today |
| 05:05.01 | ccKep | malediciton and shadow embrace are nice little buffs to have ^.^ |
| 05:05.26 | kappaccino | Death Grip totally reminded me of Scorpion |
| 05:05.31 | kappaccino | " GET OVER HERE " |
| 05:07.12 | Xuerian | haha totally |
| 05:07.15 | kappaccino | is that just 2 buttons on the guy's ui? shadowbolt and life tap? |
| 05:07.20 | Xuerian | yes |
| 05:07.23 | kappaccino | woooooow o____O kinda funny |
| 05:07.26 | kappaccino | since it's true |
| 05:07.28 | Xuerian | kinda true |
| 05:09.36 | Zyndrome | crap |
| 05:09.48 | Zyndrome | did Blizzard fix the pet scaling on Rema? >:( |
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| 05:15.33 | CIA-45 | 03p3lim * r79316 10ButtonFacade_DreamZoom/: Removed file/folder, disbanded |
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| 05:20.17 | p3lim | starlon: not considering adding oUF_ReadyCheck to WoWI? |
| 05:21.10 | p3lim | starlon: its not like you update it 10 times daily anyways |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-45 | 03Jmbtsang * r79317 10FocusInterruptSounds/ (Core.lua sheep.wav): |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-45 | FocusInterruptSounds: |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-45 | - New Blacklist spells |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-45 | - Now ignores Nature's Swiftness / Shadow Trance spells |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-45 | - Plays a sound if your partner is sheeped in an arena |
| 05:35.44 | starlon | p3lim: Ugh |
| 05:36.09 | starlon | Do you use an updater of their or something? |
| 05:36.20 | starlon | s/their/their's/ |
| 05:38.56 | Poul|Raider | anyone know where in the mpq files i can find the textures used for building up the character tap? |
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| 05:47.37 | Poul|Raider | like Interface\PaperDollInfoFrame\UI-Character-CharacterTab-L1 |
| 05:47.45 | Poul|Raider | cant find the interface folder in the mpqs |
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| 05:48.43 | Poul|Raider | found it |
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| 05:51.47 | Xuerian | The character tap? Tab? |
| 05:53.06 | p3lim | starlon: yup |
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| 05:55.44 | Corveroth | Blegh. Is there any way to find the level of a profession other than iterating through the skills window with GetNumSkillLines()? |
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| 05:56.25 | ccKep | dont think so |
| 05:56.31 | Corveroth | Yuck. |
| 05:56.49 | ccKep | atleast thats how I did it in my old version of ccDrums |
| 05:56.56 | ccKep | if you find a better way be sure to tell me ;) |
| 05:57.49 | Gnarfoz | uhmmmm |
| 05:57.58 | Gnarfoz | Paladins are like... OP @ beta right now? |
| 05:57.59 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 05:58.07 | ccKep | judgement of justice deals damage |
| 05:58.12 | ccKep | dont think thats intended |
| 05:58.46 | Gnarfoz | I'm not even using that |
| 05:58.48 | Corveroth | JoJ is evil. Forget damage. I'm a druid. I don't buy Blizzard's "It's not movement impairing, it's movement *restricting*" bullshit. I should be able to shift out. |
| 05:59.19 | vithos | Fisker-: you're not a mage on US-Shadowburn doing 5v5 right now are you? |
| 05:59.20 | ccKep | giev beta account Gnarfoz ^.^ |
| 05:59.23 | Gnarfoz | I'm JoC (or JoM) critting stuff dead for 6k o_O |
| 05:59.48 | Gnarfoz | and I'm in the blue pvp gear that you can buy for rep, and using a 2h sword you get from LITERALLY the first quest in northrend |
| 05:59.52 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 06:00.12 | Gnarfoz | also, the decoupling of judgement from seals is insane |
| 06:00.21 | Gnarfoz | me likey. :> |
| 06:00.32 | Ellipsis | NREF PALIDANS |
| 06:00.50 | ccKep | still praying for a f*cking key -.- |
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| 06:01.27 | Groktar | i was such a lootwhore tonight |
| 06:01.53 | Groktar | took shoulders, neck, and mace from twins |
| 06:03.06 | ccKep | wtb shoulders until I get the KJ helmet |
| 06:03.52 | Diao | can't wait til warriors get their class review in beta |
| 06:03.56 | Diao | cause right now they're pretty much crap :( |
| 06:04.17 | Gnarfoz | what's the deal with JoJ then? |
| 06:04.32 | Gnarfoz | also, now I have to bother with 3 Judgement spells >_> |
| 06:04.37 | Diao | joj is currently dealing damage every time it gets refreshed by a melee strike |
| 06:04.44 | Diao | and it's only supposed to damage when it's judged |
| 06:04.47 | Diao | or so people are saying |
| 06:05.15 | Neya | and it is still a slowing effect? |
| 06:05.24 | Gnarfoz | (that's not the point) |
| 06:05.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, on each refresh seems excessive |
| 06:05.38 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 06:05.55 | Gnarfoz | but I was using JoL anyway, so I was not fooled by JoJ's bug |
| 06:06.03 | Diao | it is not a slowing effect |
| 06:06.08 | Diao | it's a movement capping effect :P |
| 06:06.11 | Gnarfoz | SetHighlightTextColor |
| 06:06.17 | Gnarfoz | is gone? :< poor Bagnon =[ |
| 06:06.27 | Neya | well, when your "normal" speed is 130% and you get capped at 100% it is a slow :P |
| 06:06.40 | starlon | p3lim: Well, as soon as I get a screenshot, I'll upload it. My raid leaders stopped giving me an A though, so I'm not sure when that will be. |
| 06:06.54 | Diao | druids are op anyway |
| 06:06.57 | Diao | they need some sort of counter :p |
| 06:07.10 | Diao | and yes i have a 70 druid that i arena on |
| 06:07.14 | Diao | before you ask >.> |
| 06:08.43 | Poul|Raider | ye xuerian, tap/tab :( |
| 06:08.49 | Poul|Raider | but found it so np |
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| 06:10.28 | Groktar | ccKep: sucks because i don't have t6 gloves |
| 06:10.35 | Groktar | going to have to make some hard decisions :( |
| 06:10.43 | ccKep | 5 T6 parts atm |
| 06:10.49 | ccKep | so I can spare one :D |
| 06:11.09 | Groktar | i have bracers, belt, chest, shoulders, legs |
| 06:11.21 | Groktar | and i swapped out shoulders for the twins ones |
| 06:11.43 | Groktar | like, i'm next up for kalecgos legs |
| 06:11.47 | ccKep | LW chest ftw |
| 06:11.59 | ccKep | (me = shaman, btw :D) |
| 06:12.06 | Groktar | muru chest > tailoring chest |
| 06:12.06 | Groktar | ahh |
| 06:12.10 | Groktar | have you seen the tailoring chest? |
| 06:12.20 | ccKep | dont have the stats in my head right now |
| 06:12.55 | Groktar | 134 healing, 40 haste, 16mp5, 3 blue sockets |
| 06:13.15 | Groktar | muru chest is about the same, but with like 50 spirit instead of mp5 |
| 06:13.21 | Diao | isn't spirit > mp5 |
| 06:13.25 | Groktar | ya |
| 06:13.27 | Diao | by a lot even |
| 06:13.34 | ccKep | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34375 |
| 06:13.35 | ccKep | hugs |
| 06:13.40 | Groktar | well, it's still better than tier 6 chest |
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| 06:13.49 | Groktar | and i have obscene mp5 atm |
| 06:13.53 | ccKep | bought that one week after SWP got released on the AH |
| 06:13.57 | Diao | iirc people estimate 1 spi = 1 mp5 in terms of regen |
| 06:13.59 | Groktar | like 447 when i go all out |
| 06:14.05 | Groktar | nah |
| 06:14.11 | Groktar | i would say it's closer to 5:2 |
| 06:14.11 | ccKep | 4.8k gold, dunno which stupido put it in the AH for such a cool price so early |
| 06:14.47 | Groktar | anytime i'm REALLY worried about mana i don't get out of the fsr much |
| 06:14.53 | CIA-45 | 03ennuilg * r79318 10scorchio/embeds.xml: |
| 06:14.53 | CIA-45 | scorchio: |
| 06:14.53 | CIA-45 | - Final (!) embeds changes... |
| 06:14.53 | Diao | oh whoops |
| 06:14.53 | Groktar | except felmyst |
| 06:14.54 | Diao | while not casting |
| 06:15.03 | Groktar | i don't cast at all during the air phase |
| 06:15.03 | Groktar | mwahaha |
| 06:15.17 | ccKep | spiritpally? :D |
| 06:15.22 | Diao | priest? |
| 06:15.32 | Groktar | ya |
| 06:15.50 | ccKep | oh, must've missed the point then - thought pally because of the judgement discussion up there |
| 06:16.02 | Groktar | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Flak |
| 06:16.02 | Groktar | hasn't updated yet |
| 06:16.28 | ccKep | yay @ cloak enchant |
| 06:16.43 | Groktar | heh, if i really wanted to spend the gold |
| 06:16.46 | Groktar | i would get 20sr |
| 06:16.59 | ccKep | subtletyyy :> |
| 06:17.11 | Diao | sr? |
| 06:17.14 | Groktar | i don't get aggro anywhere it doesn't matter |
| 06:17.20 | Groktar | er, anyway it matters |
| 06:17.27 | Groktar | and if i die on twins gauntlet |
| 06:17.31 | Groktar | i get to bitch at the tanks |
| 06:17.56 | Diao | there's a 20 sr resist? o_o |
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| 06:18.08 | Diao | er |
| 06:18.11 | Grok | hmmm |
| 06:18.11 | Diao | minus resist |
| 06:18.15 | Grok | odd |
| 06:18.25 | Diao | but yeah, there's a 20 sr enchant? |
| 06:18.33 | Grok | isn't there? |
| 06:18.37 | Diao | thought the max was 15 |
| 06:18.39 | ccKep | 15 |
| 06:18.51 | Diao | dunno |
| 06:18.58 | Diao | i'll have to check, i have the enchant formula on my warrior |
| 06:19.05 | ccKep | its 15, 100% sure |
| 06:19.22 | Grok | ya, it's 15 |
| 06:19.22 | Diao | ah |
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| 06:19.59 | Diao | subtlety seems more like a dps caster enchant |
| 06:20.07 | Grok | i just think it's funny how i'd got t6/sunwell loots |
| 06:20.16 | Grok | but then i have karazhan rings/trickets |
| 06:20.22 | Grok | *trinkets |
| 06:20.32 | ccKep | thats what I thought when I looked at the armory ^.^ |
| 06:20.32 | syeren | Pointless getting a cloak enchant as a Healer in PVE :P |
| 06:20.41 | Grok | sr!! |
| 06:20.46 | syeren | Pointless. |
| 06:20.51 | Corveroth | Ooh, hey, I had an idea earlier, inspired by a thread on Wowhead. Question was: Could you have an icon for yourself on a full-size instance map? |
| 06:20.59 | Corveroth | So, my thinking: Might it be possible to pull something out of the minimap? Get a direction vector off the player's blip, figure out speed by watching keypresses and buffs/debuffs, transform to the scale of the larger map? |
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| 06:21.10 | Gnarfoz | what the hell |
| 06:21.10 | Gnarfoz | [Your] [Judgement of Command] hit [Cultist Necrolyte] 9906 Holy. (Critical) |
| 06:21.15 | Gnarfoz | ?!~~ |
| 06:21.18 | Grok | beta? |
| 06:21.19 | Grok | lol |
| 06:21.25 | Gnarfoz | I'm a fucking retardin, why am I doing this much dmg xD |
| 06:21.36 | Grok | something must just be broken] |
| 06:21.39 | cncfanatics | you have a bugged talent :) |
| 06:21.39 | Grok | nerfbat inc |
| 06:21.45 | cncfanatics | cant' remember what one it was |
| 06:21.51 | cncfanatics | saw 20k screenies before |
| 06:21.53 | ccKep | Gnarfoz: level? |
| 06:21.59 | Gnarfoz | 70! |
| 06:22.01 | Grok | hurry up and level before they fix it! |
| 06:22.04 | ccKep | !OO! |
| 06:22.22 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: must be Art of War |
| 06:22.28 | cncfanatics | think so |
| 06:22.33 | Gnarfoz | proc = next judgement = 200% dmg |
| 06:22.43 | Diao | yeah |
| 06:22.44 | Gnarfoz | still... 50% of 9k is still 4.5k |
| 06:22.48 | Diao | it's bugged right now |
| 06:22.54 | Gnarfoz | there's something seriously wrong with that |
| 06:22.57 | Diao | paladins doing insane damage with judgements |
| 06:22.57 | cncfanatics | I think they put it at 400% or so by accident |
| 06:23.17 | cncfanatics | you cld liek oneshot me with ur judgement -.- |
| 06:23.21 | Diao | also |
| 06:23.33 | Diao | is there really no better ring/trinket than the ones you have or have you just been unlucky with drops o_O |
| 06:23.40 | Diao | cause i'm pretty sure there should be much better :O |
| 06:23.48 | Groktar | flak was my alt |
| 06:23.54 | Groktar | and we lost some people in sunwell |
| 06:24.01 | Groktar | and geared her up a bit |
| 06:24.02 | Diao | oh |
| 06:24.29 | Groktar | and then you can throw in a master looter who didn't like me personally |
| 06:25.00 | Diao | o_o |
| 06:25.04 | Diao | you use a loot council or something? |
| 06:25.06 | Groktar | he gave so much loot to people who aren't even in the guild anymore |
| 06:25.10 | Groktar | even tho i had more dkp than them |
| 06:25.17 | Groktar | nope |
| 06:25.22 | cncfanatics | Groktar: /gwine and /gleave ? :p |
| 06:25.23 | Diao | ... |
| 06:25.27 | Groktar | lol |
| 06:25.35 | cncfanatics | s/wine/whine/ |
| 06:25.57 | Groktar | and do what? wipe on teron with some horrible guild full of mouthbreathers? |
| 06:26.04 | Diao | how can you justify giving loot to someone with less dkp o_O |
| 06:26.10 | Groktar | because i was an "alt" |
| 06:26.34 | Groktar | which was funny, because we didn't need my warrior anymore |
| 06:26.47 | Groktar | and we had only one other holy priest in guild |
| 06:26.51 | erikh | it would be interesting to try and quantify how much time is wasted on loot management |
| 06:26.57 | Diao | so you make your alt a main to help the guild out |
| 06:27.00 | Diao | and they still consider it an alt |
| 06:27.04 | Groktar | ya |
| 06:27.10 | cncfanatics | erikh: for us none |
| 06:27.17 | Groktar | i was MT on my warrior from gruul -> illidan |
| 06:27.20 | erikh | between dkp, loot council, whining about losing on loot... etc |
| 06:27.21 | cncfanatics | before the raid happens officers decide who gets what drops |
| 06:27.23 | Groktar | then i had to take a break because of work |
| 06:27.23 | cncfanatics | pretty efficient |
| 06:27.28 | erikh | cncfanatics: i like that idea. |
| 06:27.36 | cncfanatics | instant looting :) |
| 06:27.51 | Diao | i waste no time on loot management |
| 06:27.54 | erikh | i'll have to talk to the other officers in our guild about that one |
| 06:27.55 | Groktar | and other warrior had stepped up |
| 06:27.57 | erikh | we normally free roll |
| 06:27.58 | Diao | cause i tell everyone "know what drops you want beforehand" |
| 06:28.02 | Diao | then at loot drop |
| 06:28.03 | erikh | but we could easily adapt that before we run |
| 06:28.05 | Groktar | and we needed a holy priest |
| 06:28.09 | Diao | "whisper me if you want it for main, you have 10 seconds" |
| 06:28.18 | Diao | if nobody whispers me, people can roll for alt/offspec |
| 06:28.23 | erikh | "roll now if you're one of the 400 melee dps bitching about missing out on dragonspine trophy" |
| 06:28.33 | Groktar | that's basically how we do it Diao |
| 06:28.48 | Diao | lol erikh |
| 06:28.50 | Diao | for our guild it |
| 06:28.52 | Diao | it goes* |
| 06:28.58 | Diao | "so uhh whose alt wants dst this week"? |
| 06:29.04 | Groktar | it doesn't really matter anymore, since i convinced the asshole that my priest is my main |
| 06:29.05 | erikh | yeah, pretty much here too |
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| 06:29.12 | Diao | cause we've gotten that many dsts >.> |
| 06:29.15 | Groktar | hehe |
| 06:29.23 | Groktar | in an actual guild raid |
| 06:29.25 | Groktar | we've gotten 1 |
| 06:29.28 | erikh | that doesn't keep people from bitching about how so-and-so got this roll and they can't put out as much dps as they can |
| 06:29.32 | Diao | lol |
| 06:29.34 | Groktar | we've gotten two others in pugs i've run |
| 06:29.37 | Diao | it's funny because |
| 06:29.37 | erikh | even though the damn thing is free rol |
| 06:29.44 | erikh | it's not like someone MLs it to the officers first |
| 06:29.44 | Diao | i've gotten whispers from people in other guilds on my server |
| 06:29.48 | Groktar | and i sure as hell didn't let anyone /roll |
| 06:29.55 | Diao | asking why an enh shaman or a feral druid or hunter has a dst from our guild |
| 06:29.56 | Groktar | gave it to who i wanted to have it |
| 06:29.59 | Groktar | hehe |
| 06:30.00 | Diao | and i'm like |
| 06:30.14 | cncfanatics | Diao: liek, why not ? |
| 06:30.14 | Diao | "all 5 of our rogues and 3 of our warriors have it, as well as a ret paladin.. so who else would we give it to"? |
| 06:30.19 | Groktar | well, dst IS still best in slot for them |
| 06:30.21 | erikh | exactly |
| 06:30.43 | erikh | anyways, the only problem I can think of with the pick/roll before run is |
| 06:30.53 | ccKep | <Gnarfoz> [Your] [Judgement of Command] hit [Cultist Necrolyte] 9906 Holy. (Critical) <<< w or w/o avenging wrath? |
| 06:30.53 | Groktar | i ninjad the first one to a fury warrior, second one to a hunter |
| 06:31.01 | Diao | lol |
| 06:31.02 | erikh | people *will* find some catastrophic event that will only happen when they don't win rolls to leave the raid early |
| 06:31.15 | Diao | we use a dkp system so people have no excuse |
| 06:31.22 | Diao | they want dkp they'll stay :p |
| 06:31.22 | cncfanatics | erikh: then those people really shouldn't be in a raid guild |
| 06:31.29 | erikh | cncfanatics: i know. |
| 06:31.32 | cncfanatics | erikh: either way, in here, offis don't tell who they decided gets loot |
| 06:31.38 | erikh | ah |
| 06:31.44 | cncfanatics | they just decide beforehand for their own (prolly put it on offi notes or note it down or so) |
| 06:31.52 | cncfanatics | and then the master loot just gives the loot |
| 06:32.08 | cncfanatics | loot council pretty much |
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| 06:32.53 | erikh | we're just having trouble recruiting.... the rules "we raid 4 times a week, please show up" and "don't act like a 12 year old, no matter how old you are" are amazingly hard to match up with most wow players |
| 06:33.25 | cncfanatics | erikh: then ours must be impossible |
| 06:33.27 | cncfanatics | but we're full -.- |
| 06:33.30 | erikh | heh |
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| 06:33.46 | Gnarfoz | ccKep: w/o. and I'm also getting other "big" numbers even w/o AoW up, so I dunno |
| 06:34.28 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/92605 erikh :p |
| 06:35.10 | erikh | cncfanatics: that's the thing |
| 06:35.50 | erikh | i mean, we have the same basic unspoken rules (we'll take under 18 if they can keep composed) |
| 06:36.08 | erikh | but it's effing dalaran |
| 06:36.21 | cncfanatics | well, we do take some guys under 18 |
| 06:36.28 | cncfanatics | but drama = bye bye |
| 06:36.32 | erikh | exactly |
| 06:36.41 | cncfanatics | and for some reason people less then 18 seem to like to cause drama more often |
| 06:36.56 | erikh | we'll generally beat on the drama llamas a little bit, and let the problem sort itself out. |
| 06:37.05 | cncfanatics | well, ofc |
| 06:37.07 | erikh | oh, no argument |
| 06:37.19 | cncfanatics | drama can always happen sometimes |
| 06:37.22 | erikh | just plenty of middle aged guys who are in the same camp |
| 06:37.24 | cncfanatics | its just anoying when it happens more then once |
| 06:37.33 | erikh | and women. especially middle-aged women |
| 06:37.42 | erikh | "hi, i have tits. i can haz loot?" |
| 06:37.48 | Groktar | hmm |
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| 06:37.58 | Groktar | one of the shaman in my guild just got the LW healing chest |
| 06:38.09 | Groktar | sun-drenched scale chestguard |
| 06:38.20 | cncfanatics | its nice |
| 06:38.23 | cncfanatics | giev it :p |
| 06:38.32 | cncfanatics | wish my guild started raiding yet heh, we start in sept |
| 06:38.42 | erikh | nah, the underlying problem is that dalaran has horrible progression on alliance and anyone who's serious about it left a long time ago |
| 06:39.18 | cncfanatics | erikh: reroll horde on some active horde server ? :p ally suck anyway |
| 06:39.34 | erikh | I love playing horde |
| 06:39.39 | erikh | but for me it's more about the people I play with |
| 06:39.47 | erikh | been with most of them for 3 years or so |
| 06:40.11 | erikh | and finding a good guild can be rough |
| 06:40.19 | cncfanatics | yea true |
| 06:40.26 | cncfanatics | was so happy when I found the guild I'm currently in :p |
| 06:40.38 | cncfanatics | its was pretty much exactly what I was looking for |
| 06:41.17 | Xuerian | Love at First Raid |
| 06:41.21 | erikh | lol. |
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| 06:43.42 | Groktar | WOOT |
| 06:43.48 | Groktar | i just got my first unbuffed 10k gheal |
| 06:43.55 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 06:44.00 | cncfanatics | giev :( |
| 06:44.03 | cncfanatics | I'm at 1.3k +healing |
| 06:44.16 | Fisker- | 1+1 = 2 |
| 06:44.21 | Groktar | 2464 |
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| 06:44.42 | Diao | lol |
| 06:45.03 | Diao | i couldn't find a guild that did what i wanted since i was in a hardcore guild pre-bc |
| 06:45.08 | Diao | i got burned out |
| 06:45.11 | Diao | so i started my own :D |
| 06:45.23 | Groktar | 10064 |
| 06:45.46 | cncfanatics | Diao: I'm into hardcore too :p |
| 06:45.55 | winkiller | spankings? |
| 06:46.05 | Diao | lol |
| 06:46.13 | erikh | cncfanatics: what class? |
| 06:46.19 | Diao | well no, i was burned out from being too hardcore so i started a casual-ish guild |
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| 06:46.54 | winkiller | I'm raiding Kara hardcore 3 days a week |
| 06:47.59 | cncfanatics | erikh: resto druid atm |
| 06:48.05 | erikh | ah, yeah |
| 06:48.52 | winkiller | I'm at 1857 with my druid |
| 06:48.56 | erikh | cncfanatics: gearing for spirit + the blue dragon darkmoon card (farm UBRS with 2 friends for a couple of days) is a nice way to help yourself out |
| 06:49.08 | erikh | also a good trinket popping macro is your friend |
| 06:49.12 | winkiller | and somehow it feels like ezmode |
| 06:49.17 | erikh | winkiller: heh, yep |
| 06:49.31 | winkiller | I mean.. Eagle phase on Zul'Jin |
| 06:49.32 | erikh | on trash, i normally end up with more mana than before the fight started |
| 06:49.42 | winkiller | I heal ALL the time and my own HoTs outheal the damage |
| 06:49.44 | winkiller | WTF |
| 06:49.49 | winkiller | I heard it's "don't cast" |
| 06:50.02 | Groktar | you don't cast if you're about to die |
| 06:50.13 | winkiller | I never dropped below 70% |
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| 06:50.22 | cncfanatics | currently at 1.3k with my lil druid |
| 06:50.26 | Groktar | also, if you use a spell with a cast time |
| 06:50.29 | cncfanatics | I started at lvl 1 just a month ago |
| 06:50.31 | cncfanatics | so i think its decent |
| 06:50.32 | Groktar | and immediately follow with an instant |
| 06:50.36 | Groktar | you only take damage once |
| 06:50.38 | Diao | then you only get hit once |
| 06:50.42 | Diao | because of combat log effect |
| 06:50.44 | Diao | :P |
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| 06:50.58 | Groktar | i try to poh/binding heal |
| 06:51.00 | Diao | but then |
| 06:51.02 | winkiller | I used regrowth 90& |
| 06:51.04 | Diao | why bother doing it that wya |
| 06:51.07 | Diao | when you can cheese the fight |
| 06:51.10 | Diao | and not have to heal/run around at all |
| 06:51.11 | Diao | >.> |
| 06:51.14 | Groktar | o? |
| 06:51.16 | cncfanatics | how so ? |
| 06:51.19 | cncfanatics | never been ZA at all yet :p |
| 06:51.21 | cncfanatics | gear ain't good enough |
| 06:51.27 | Diao | basically |
| 06:51.31 | Groktar | i would love to cheese zul'jin |
| 06:51.34 | Diao | have a rogue or hunter charge into zj |
| 06:51.35 | Groktar | he's annoying as hell |
| 06:51.37 | Diao | everyone else on the stairs |
| 06:51.40 | Diao | then vanish/fd |
| 06:51.43 | Diao | so he disappears |
| 06:51.46 | Diao | you then have 1 minute to walljump |
| 06:51.51 | winkiller | o_O |
| 06:51.52 | Diao | onto the pillars behind him |
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| 06:51.54 | cncfanatics | thats so prone to being banned |
| 06:51.59 | Groktar | lol |
| 06:52.00 | winkiller | and so useless |
| 06:52.02 | Diao | all the casters go up there |
| 06:52.03 | cncfanatics | don't bug abuse tbh |
| 06:52.04 | Diao | for the first 4 phases |
| 06:52.12 | winkiller | we never wipe on ZJ unless priest fails to mass dispel in bear |
| 06:52.14 | Diao | tanks and melee at the bottom |
| 06:52.14 | cncfanatics | its not like he's hard either way :p |
| 06:52.17 | Diao | tanking him right where he spawns |
| 06:52.20 | Diao | then what happens is |
| 06:52.25 | Diao | in eagle phase |
| 06:52.33 | Diao | all the tornadoes agro the casters on the pillar |
| 06:52.35 | Diao | but can't reach them |
| 06:52.40 | Diao | so melee are free to sit in the middle |
| 06:52.45 | Diao | and dps without moving |
| 06:52.53 | winkiller | that's so lame |
| 06:52.53 | Diao | then in phase 4, when he targets someone for that claw rage thing |
| 06:52.57 | Diao | if they're on the pillar |
| 06:52.59 | Diao | he targets them |
| 06:53.00 | Diao | instantly deagros |
| 06:53.02 | Diao | and goes back to the tank |
| 06:53.06 | winkiller | rofl |
| 06:53.09 | Diao | easymode zj |
| 06:53.13 | Diao | then after phase 4 ends |
| 06:53.15 | Diao | everyone hops down |
| 06:53.19 | Diao | and does the final part |
| 06:53.20 | winkiller | do you play with onearmed 11year olds? |
| 06:53.28 | Diao | nope |
| 06:53.36 | Diao | we did zj just fine |
| 06:53.39 | Diao | the "normal" way |
| 06:53.40 | Diao | for 2 months |
| 06:53.41 | theoddone33 | why would they make fel armor undispellable? |
| 06:53.52 | theoddone33 | that makes so little sense I think it's maybe in the negative for sense |
| 06:53.55 | Diao | it's the same as cheesing eagle boss gauntlet |
| 06:54.09 | Diao | don't have to deal with any bird/warrior spawns |
| 06:54.24 | winkiller | why would I do anything funny when I can rush through in 5min normal? |
| 06:54.41 | CIA-45 | 03cwdg * r79319 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (addon.lua import.lua): |
| 06:54.41 | CIA-45 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 06:54.41 | CIA-45 | update zhCN locale |
| 06:54.48 | Diao | well personally, i'm lazy |
| 06:54.50 | winkiller | only thing in ZA that majorly annoys me are people standing in bombs on Janalai and fucking up 3rd timed |
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| 06:54.57 | Groktar | ugh |
| 06:55.01 | Diao | and standing in 1 place > running around in circles dodging shit |
| 06:55.20 | Groktar | some guy in my guild keeps giving himself a nws signature |
| 06:55.23 | cncfanatics | Diao: for a druid, not rly |
| 06:55.32 | Diao | lol |
| 06:55.43 | winkiller | nws? |
| 06:55.47 | Diao | not work safe |
| 06:56.02 | winkiller | nsfw is the term |
| 06:56.08 | CIA-45 | 03Corveroth * r79320 10DrumCoord/Core.lua: |
| 06:56.08 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
| 06:56.08 | CIA-45 | -Whole lotta performance tweaks. |
| 06:56.10 | winkiller | never hears nws o_O |
| 06:57.34 | Diao | and uh |
| 06:57.38 | Diao | you don't need a rogue or hunter either |
| 06:57.47 | Diao | you can technically do the same trick by just having someone strip and suicide |
| 06:57.51 | Diao | and just rez them up |
| 06:58.03 | ccKep | why cant you just jump up there in battle? |
| 06:58.10 | Diao | well |
| 06:58.14 | ccKep | its not like p1 is hard, or das ZJ have an enrage timer? |
| 06:58.16 | Diao | technically you could |
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| 06:58.25 | Diao | but if people get that uh |
| 06:58.26 | ccKep | (its not like ZJ is hard << fixed) |
| 06:58.31 | Diao | grievous throw thing |
| 06:58.37 | Diao | while trying to jump up |
| 06:58.39 | Diao | it's pretty annoying |
| 06:58.44 | ccKep | 1 healer on tank, 1 on raid, everyone else jumpy :> |
| 06:58.47 | Diao | lol |
| 06:58.56 | Diao | it works either way |
| 06:58.57 | Diao | ;p |
| 06:58.59 | winkiller | that's so lame |
| 06:59.12 | Diao | i'm guessing you think the eagle exploit is lame too? |
| 06:59.16 | Diao | lol |
| 06:59.30 | Diao | even though it cuts the time for eagle boss down from like 5 min to 2 |
| 06:59.47 | winkiller | what eagle exploit? |
| 06:59.55 | Diao | uh |
| 07:00.04 | Diao | you know the path up to eagle |
| 07:00.13 | Diao | and there's the resting spot before you activate the event |
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| 07:00.34 | Diao | well let's say heading left is the path up |
| 07:00.38 | Diao | if you head to the right where the waterfall is |
| 07:00.42 | Diao | you can /target amani'shi temp |
| 07:00.46 | Diao | to target the tempest |
| 07:00.49 | Diao | send a hunter or lock pet in |
| 07:01.02 | Diao | and it agros the tempest, which automatically disables the warrior/eagle spawns |
| 07:01.09 | Diao | you kill the tempest and the other 2 adds |
| 07:01.17 | winkiller | ah |
| 07:01.19 | Diao | then head back around and kill the pairs of wind walkers/whatever |
| 07:01.20 | Diao | on the way up |
| 07:01.28 | Diao | easy and short |
| 07:01.56 | Diao | not only does it take less time to kill but there's also less healing to be done, so people don't have to spend as long drinking before pulling boss |
| 07:02.53 | cncfanatics | exploits are lame |
| 07:02.53 | cncfanatics | every single one of them |
| 07:02.53 | cncfanatics | he shld just despawn if you jumpy :p |
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| 07:04.19 | Diao | lol |
| 07:04.36 | Diao | they're just "creative use of game mechanics" anyway |
| 07:04.37 | Diao | ;p |
| 07:04.38 | Orionshock | morning all |
| 07:04.52 | Orionshock | anyone playing beta that can explain what Tekkub is talking about here : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1&pageNo=2#28 |
| 07:04.54 | Orionshock | ? |
| 07:05.32 | Tekkub | you can make a link that when clicked, shows every tradeskill spell you know |
| 07:05.44 | Orionshock | ... what's it look like? |
| 07:05.47 | Diao | when you link your tradeskill |
| 07:05.48 | Tekkub | but there's *NO* API for interacting with the links |
| 07:05.50 | Diao | isn't it? |
| 07:06.00 | Tekkub | like the normal tradeskill UI |
| 07:06.02 | Orionshock | ok, that makes more sense... |
| 07:06.20 | Tekkub | it is the normal tradeskill ui |
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| 07:06.28 | Tekkub | you just can't cast spells |
| 07:06.33 | Orionshock | Tekkub: you got a pasty of what it looks like? |
| 07:06.39 | Tekkub | no |
| 07:06.42 | Orionshock | :( |
| 07:06.49 | Tekkub | it's literally the tradeskill UI |
| 07:07.00 | Tekkub | just showing someone else's spells |
| 07:07.20 | cncfanatics | true, not bannable |
| 07:07.57 | cncfanatics | Tekkub: I wish blizz would add who's tradeskills you're looking it |
| 07:08.12 | cncfanatics | so someone can't just link the tradeskills of another guy without you knowing (scamming ftl) |
| 07:08.17 | Tekkub | they know who, the GUID's in the link |
| 07:08.46 | cncfanatics | does the UI show who it is also ? |
| 07:09.09 | Tekkub | yea, it's a kickass new feature, but it needs a little love, mainly so addons can retain a full list of every person that's made a link by just saving a lil string |
| 07:09.24 | Tekkub | the only the the UI knows is that it was opened by a link |
| 07:09.37 | Tekkub | there isn't even lua for handling the link click in chat |
| 07:10.01 | cncfanatics | they should add some GetCraftList(link); function or so |
| 07:10.11 | cncfanatics | and GetCrafter(link); |
| 07:10.23 | Tekkub | the only references we found were the code that pastes a link into chat, and the code in the tradeskill that hides the "cast" button if opened from a link |
| 07:10.30 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 07:10.42 | Tekkub | that one little API call and we'd be in heaven |
| 07:10.56 | Tekkub | make addons automatically trade links on the guild/party channels |
| 07:11.06 | Tekkub | remember every link you've seen, with a timestamp |
| 07:11.20 | Tekkub | instant searchable database of crafters |
| 07:11.45 | CIA-45 | 03Corveroth * r79321 10DrumCoord/Core.lua: |
| 07:11.45 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
| 07:11.45 | CIA-45 | -Oops. Comment out some debug stuff. |
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| 07:17.30 | Orionshock | Tekkub: wow ... that make my addon almost useless, but severely slim the code down like nothing else. |
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| 07:17.50 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 07:17.54 | Orionshock | guild craft |
| 07:17.57 | Tekkub | oh |
| 07:18.24 | Tekkub | yea if they give us an API, I think we should come up with a standard for trading the links on the addon channel |
| 07:18.26 | Orionshock | infact i think it stemed from an idea that you prompted. that all that is needed is the enchant link. |
| 07:18.33 | Tekkub | that way many addons can share links |
| 07:19.04 | Tekkub | I certainly plan on making a link remembering addon |
| 07:19.33 | Orionshock | & i'll be rewriting guildcraft to handle this if they expose the api more :D |
| 07:20.24 | cncfanatics | guildcraft will be damn small if they do that |
| 07:20.36 | Tekkub | there's so much potential :) |
| 07:20.46 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 07:20.55 | Tekkub | but right now, decoding which spell each bit means for each craft... not fun at all |
| 07:21.05 | cncfanatics | indeed :p |
| 07:21.13 | cncfanatics | especialy as there's already a func in C that does just that |
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| 07:23.34 | ccKep | how does such a link look like? (for us non-betas ^.^) |
| 07:23.51 | cncfanatics | there was a pastey with some examples somewhere |
| 07:24.01 | cncfanatics | I lost that pastey though |
| 07:24.05 | cncfanatics | maybe someone else can link it |
| 07:24.09 | ccKep | QQ |
| 07:24.17 | Orionshock | hell if they just give us something that spits back the enchant links as CSV's that would work |
| 07:27.35 | ccKep | couldn't you just open the tradeskillframe with a self-builtt link that has one of those recipe-bits set each time and use GetTradeSkillLine(1) to print it? |
| 07:28.08 | cncfanatics | you could in theory prolly |
| 07:28.18 | cncfanatics | no reason why it wouldn't work |
| 07:28.20 | cncfanatics | just a bit hackish imo |
| 07:28.29 | Orionshock | ya in cheep theory, you could just open the link and scan the window BaU, provided that the user dosn't do that first |
| 07:28.30 | ccKep | an API would be cooler, ofc |
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| 07:30.02 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79323 10StarTip/Modules/Text.lua: StarTip: Attempt to prevent a rare error |
| 07:30.17 | ccKep | maybe the bits are ordered by spellids in that profession *shrugs* |
| 07:30.57 | Orionshock | well, it's a link, so it's less than 255 chars as a link |
| 07:31.16 | Orionshock | there can be upwards of 300 craftables in a profession... |
| 07:31.26 | Orionshock | something about that dosn't sound right... |
| 07:31.29 | Xuerian | Does wowhead have the right links? /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Shift-click this to place a link into a chat message: \124cff0070dd\124Hitem:38237:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Axe of Frozen Death]\124h\124r"); |
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| 07:31.47 | Xuerian | Or'd they change it again? |
| 07:32.00 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: not really |
| 07:32.03 | cncfanatics | one bit per recipe |
| 07:32.07 | cncfanatics | a character is a byte |
| 07:32.18 | cncfanatics | so, thats 8 recipes per char, except if my logic is twisted |
| 07:32.27 | Orionshock | no that's right |
| 07:32.48 | Orionshock | but isn't a bit just a 1/0 binary value |
| 07:32.52 | cncfanatics | it is |
| 07:33.01 | cncfanatics | 0 = doesn't have recipe |
| 07:33.02 | Orionshock | and it's 8 bits to a byte.. so how the hell do they store something in a bit? |
| 07:33.04 | cncfanatics | 1 = has recipe :p |
| 07:33.11 | Orionshock | true |
| 07:33.18 | cncfanatics | each recipe gets its own bit |
| 07:33.21 | Orionshock | all tradeskills are ordered in the exact same way |
| 07:34.05 | Orionshock | if/when i get beta key from wowi giveaway i'll have to do some mucking around |
| 07:34.27 | cncfanatics | still waiting for mine too heh |
| 07:34.28 | cncfanatics | giev |
| 07:34.43 | Orionshock | monday .. (today) it goes out to blizz |
| 07:34.48 | ccKep | talking about wowi giveaway, cairenn wanted to send the list to blizz today, right? |
| 07:34.51 | ccKep | yay |
| 07:34.54 | Orionshock | & hopefully with in the week |
| 07:35.19 | ccKep | blizzard shouldn't be so stupid and just send out a key to everyone on the list |
| 07:35.32 | Cairenn | yup, list goes in today, *hopefully* you guys will see your keys within the week |
| 07:35.35 | ccKep | WoWI already tested the posts for legit submissions |
| 07:35.46 | Orionshock | lol i think they wanted to week out stupid people and those that won't seriously contibute... |
| 07:35.52 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:36.20 | Cairenn | every author we send in gets a key, period (unless blizz discovers someone trying to scam more than one key, that we managed to miss) |
| 07:36.27 | Cairenn | ours isn't a contest |
| 07:36.38 | ccKep | well |
| 07:36.44 | cncfanatics | Cairenn: for the record, there's no problem if we applied for both wowi & curse right ? |
| 07:36.57 | Orionshock | Cairenn: does puttin in for the blizz opt-in and the wowi count as scamming? |
| 07:37.09 | cladhaire | you won't get both |
| 07:37.19 | Orionshock | i figured that much :D |
| 07:37.24 | Cairenn | if blizz finds out you've applied through both author signups, yeah, you may very well get in shit for scamming |
| 07:37.30 | Cairenn | the opt-in is a different matter |
| 07:37.36 | Dashkal | Cairenn: :D |
| 07:37.50 | ccKep | I registered at the opt-in (two accounts, both with the same email), applied to wowi and curseforge, /me wants key :( |
| 07:37.50 | Orionshock | humm... |
| 07:37.57 | Orionshock | just want 1 key .. |
| 07:38.02 | cncfanatics | same, applied to the same acc both times with the same email |
| 07:38.08 | ccKep | one is enough, yeah =) |
| 07:38.08 | cncfanatics | shld be pretty obvious i'm not trying to scam |
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| 07:38.30 | Cairenn | why would you guys apply on both sites? |
| 07:38.35 | Cairenn | that's what I don't understand |
| 07:38.45 | Cairenn | you KNOW that if you apply on WoWI, you get a key, period. |
| 07:38.48 | cladhaire | meneither, heh |
| 07:38.50 | Orionshock | better chances at getting a key? tho that dosn't make sense b/c wowi u get one.. |
| 07:38.59 | ccKep | applied on curse first, and it sounded like a contest ^.^ |
| 07:39.24 | Cairenn | it isn't a contest, it isn't a "you might get", we did this last time too and everyone that applied got one |
| 07:39.39 | Cairenn | we handed out well over 700 keys last time |
| 07:39.53 | ccKep | I didn't apply last time |
| 07:39.59 | cncfanatics | same here |
| 07:40.01 | ccKep | got to play BC beta with a friends acc :o |
| 07:40.07 | Orionshock | could be too many years of blizzard magic and that lottery idea that they put up all the time. would make sense that it happen at curse/wowi ? |
| 07:40.08 | Tekkub | expect the people you BANNED COLDHEARTEDLY |
| 07:40.10 | crwbarFF | I never heard of this author list. nice |
| 07:40.19 | Orionshock | reading comprehension ftl :( |
| 07:40.28 | Cairenn | Tekkub: yeah, except them |
| 07:40.53 | Tekkub | they suck |
| 07:41.38 | ccKep | Cairenn: is there any way an author can know if he's approved to be on the list thats going out? |
| 07:41.40 | Cairenn | I'm not sure how much clearer I could have made it than this: "This is **not** a contest! Whether using US or EU client, if you are a mod author that hosts with us and you have been keeping your mods current, you are eligible for a key!" |
| 07:41.59 | Cairenn | did you sign up? |
| 07:42.03 | ccKep | yeah |
| 07:42.10 | ccKep | but I thought you check the addons and such |
| 07:42.11 | Orionshock | :D i did #6 |
| 07:42.12 | Cairenn | when you signed up, did you get an error message? |
| 07:42.22 | cladhaire | to make sure they're not blatant copies of another addon |
| 07:42.23 | ccKep | nono, I have an ID and such |
| 07:42.24 | Cairenn | or did you see a pretty gold ticket |
| 07:42.26 | crwbarFF | ERROR 1457: you suck |
| 07:42.30 | Cairenn | then your name is getting sent |
| 07:42.41 | ccKep | but it didn't say something about the approval of addons |
| 07:42.55 | ccKep | I could aswell just apply without submitting an addon first at this point? |
| 07:42.58 | cladhaire | the "check" is just to ensure that your addons aren't copies or ripoffs |
| 07:43.20 | Cairenn | which happens before they go live on the site |
| 07:43.27 | ccKep | ah |
| 07:43.29 | Cairenn | and if you don't have any mods live, then you can't sign up |
| 07:43.39 | ccKep | so the signup process checks if you have an active addon hosted |
| 07:43.43 | Orionshock | ah good ol' website logic |
| 07:43.46 | Cairenn | it's not that complicated :p |
| 07:43.51 | ccKep | yayay :D |
| 07:44.14 | cladhaire | its really stupid simple :P |
| 07:44.24 | reqol | Cairenn: pretty awesome : P |
| 07:44.36 | Cairenn | some places like to make things ambiguous and confusing - we don't |
| 07:44.43 | Cairenn | "This is how it is. Period." |
| 07:45.14 | cncfanatics | we're too used to ambiguous stuff :( |
| 07:45.30 | ccKep | just a last question though |
| 07:45.34 | Cairenn | ask |
| 07:46.06 | ccKep | the ticked ID and such, guess its just a number thats counting upwards.. so it looks like you have ~500 submissions so far - do these get sent to blizz in waves or just all in one list today? |
| 07:46.29 | Cairenn | everyone that has signed up by the time I send in the batch, gets sent in |
| 07:46.43 | Cairenn | anyone that signs up between today and next monday goes in next monday |
| 07:46.45 | winkiller | tries to quickly think up an addon and release |
| 07:46.51 | ccKep | awesome :D |
| 07:46.55 | Orionshock | lol winkiller |
| 07:47.03 | Cairenn | anyone that signs up between that monday and the following goes that following monday ... |
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| 07:54.27 | CIA-45 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 07:54.27 | CIA-45 | - fixed nil call to :RemoveCooldown() |
| 07:54.27 | CIA-45 | - yeah, i'm still alive, but currently w/o playable account :( |
| 07:55.06 | syeren | Where's Kaelten :< |
| 07:55.27 | syeren | I want him to ban the EJ Administration from being able to use WAU already :P |
| 07:56.10 | Zhinjio | Kaelten went to bed. |
| 07:56.21 | Zhinjio | hours ago |
| 07:56.24 | [SW]Dodge | hey can someone test what "/dump date" will give? i currently have no active account ;( |
| 07:56.32 | Zhinjio | sure, one sec. |
| 07:56.43 | [SW]Dodge | Zhinjio: thanks |
| 07:56.54 | Zhinjio | [01:56]"07/28/08 01:56:46" |
| 07:57.02 | Zhinjio | ignore the timestamp |
| 07:57.06 | Zhinjio | I mean... heh |
| 07:57.10 | Zhinjio | igno... you know what I mean |
| 07:57.18 | [SW]Dodge | yea i know :D |
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| 07:57.37 | [SW]Dodge | can you also check what "/dump date("%M:%S",84125)" gives? |
| 07:57.57 | Zhinjio | "22:05" |
| 07:58.06 | [SW]Dodge | hmmm |
| 07:58.14 | [SW]Dodge | weird |
| 07:58.31 | nevcairiel | lua> os.date("%M:%S", 84125) |
| 07:58.31 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 22:05 |
| 07:58.34 | nevcairiel | go nuts :P |
| 07:58.35 | [SW]Dodge | then i dont know why it results in a nil error for some people :( |
| 07:59.26 | Cairenn | EJ? |
| 08:00.49 | Cairenn | errr, sorry, mistell |
| 08:01.47 | winkiller | syeren: whey? because of the warning? |
| 08:02.06 | syeren | Yup. |
| 08:02.37 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79325 10Prat/services/events.lua: |
| 08:02.37 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 08:02.37 | CIA-45 | Radom stuff with the chatsection and events services - i'm falling asleep |
| 08:05.25 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r79326 10oUF_DebuffHighlight/oUF_DebuffHighlight.lua: |
| 08:05.25 | CIA-45 | oUF_DebuffHighlight: update for latest oUF |
| 08:05.25 | CIA-45 | - If you get errors using this, update your oUF |
| 08:05.43 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/download/file.php?id=76&mode=view |
| 08:05.44 | Groktar | woot |
| 08:05.46 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r79327 10oUF_CombatFeedback/oUF_CombatFeedback.lua: |
| 08:05.46 | CIA-45 | oUF_CombatFeedback: update for latest oUF |
| 08:05.46 | CIA-45 | - If you get errors using this, update your oUF |
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| 08:11.30 | p3lim | cheers at [Ammo] |
| 08:11.56 | sylvanaar | yes, but what time on monday! i need sleep (j/k) |
| 08:12.13 | sylvanaar | that cinches it |
| 08:14.14 | ccKep | Earth Shield mana cost has been doubled. Rank 3 at level 70 now costs 900 mana instead of 450. <<< hope blizz is kidding on this |
| 08:15.01 | ccKep | it was 900 mana with 10 charges before, than they made it 450 mana with 6 charges (slight buff) and now its gonna be 900 mana für 6 charges or what? srsly wtf |
| 08:15.15 | nevcairiel | laughes at shamans |
| 08:15.17 | _rane | is that a wotlk change or some other patch? |
| 08:15.20 | Vangual | cries |
| 08:15.29 | ccKep | next wotlk beta build, according to WoR |
| 08:15.40 | ccKep | I hope thats just a stupid typo |
| 08:15.41 | _rane | bah |
| 08:15.55 | cncfanatics | ccKep: guess it was too good :p |
| 08:16.11 | CIA-45 | 03cwdg * r79328 10Cartographer_Trainers/Cartographer_Trainers.toc: |
| 08:16.11 | CIA-45 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 08:16.11 | CIA-45 | update toc 20300=>20400 |
| 08:16.16 | ccKep | that 6 charge-nerf was absolutely unneeded too |
| 08:16.38 | nevcairiel | ccKep: does WoR provide blue-post proof now, or is it still just assumed to be true? :P |
| 08:16.38 | ccKep | 6 charges are instant gone |
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| 08:16.53 | Aiiane | qq go enhance :P |
| 08:16.54 | ccKep | its copypasta from the taletn calc I think |
| 08:17.29 | ccKep | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/shaman/talents2.html |
| 08:17.47 | ccKep | earth shield rank 3 900 mana according to that |
| 08:17.50 | ccKep | QQ |
| 08:18.10 | Orionshock | im glad they are unfking druids in the xpack |
| 08:18.20 | Groktar | unfking? |
| 08:18.42 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: unfcking ? |
| 08:18.43 | Orionshock | ya, our single aoe spell is currently on a 1min cd... |
| 08:18.44 | nevcairiel | yeah druids now own all other classes :P |
| 08:19.00 | cncfanatics | I'm glad I rerolled a druid |
| 08:19.06 | Orionshock | FeralCharge is now available in cat form |
| 08:19.06 | cncfanatics | xpack stuff looks cool |
| 08:19.26 | Orionshock | ImpMotw is now less talent points |
| 08:19.37 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: I think us droods already know :à) |
| 08:19.40 | cncfanatics | NOURISH , FLOURISH :D |
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| 08:20.03 | Orionshock | oh and the 2 crowing changes of Druids -- OutOfCombat rez and the fix to Omen of Clarity |
| 08:20.04 | nevcairiel | AoE heal is win |
| 08:20.15 | charon | actually i think the most interesting change is a different one |
| 08:20.23 | charon | there are finally enough talent points to actually have a _choice_ |
| 08:20.32 | nevcairiel | not for resto =P |
| 08:20.41 | charon | dunno, i only looked at feral :P |
| 08:20.46 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: I have 3 points left |
| 08:20.50 | cncfanatics | in resto |
| 08:20.51 | nevcairiel | you can still simply build a 0/0/71 and be done |
| 08:20.52 | charon | but even us ferals can currently spec almost everything |
| 08:20.53 | cncfanatics | after picking all talents |
| 08:20.57 | charon | and the other choices aren't exactly tough ones |
| 08:21.07 | Groktar | too many talents in priest tree |
| 08:21.34 | Groktar | you basically have to pick 10% mana cost off instants or 10% more healing to coh/binding heal/pom |
| 08:22.24 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: yeah i could probably save some points, but whats the point |
| 08:22.32 | nevcairiel | I dont really benefit from 3 points in balance |
| 08:22.34 | nevcairiel | so *shrug |
| 08:22.34 | cncfanatics | Groktar: are you complaining you actualy have to make choices ? |
| 08:22.37 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: what's this Nourish spell / idea ?? |
| 08:22.51 | cncfanatics | an 1.5 sc cast direct heal |
| 08:22.51 | nevcairiel | Nourish is a flash-heal |
| 08:22.57 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: i put them in NG |
| 08:22.58 | nevcairiel | that gets a bonus for HoTs on the target |
| 08:22.59 | cncfanatics | that heals for 20% extra if you have a HoT up on the target |
| 08:23.19 | cncfanatics | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=50464 Orionshock |
| 08:23.47 | Orionshock | counter part to swiftmend |
| 08:23.52 | nevcairiel | only lvl 80 though :( |
| 08:23.58 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:23.59 | nevcairiel | want to test |
| 08:24.04 | cncfanatics | yea, gonna need naturalist for lvl'ing |
| 08:24.18 | nevcairiel | leveling as feral =P |
| 08:24.22 | cncfanatics | instances here |
| 08:24.28 | nevcairiel | My T6 feral gear has to be good for something |
| 08:24.46 | Orionshock | im gona try to lvl balance at first |
| 08:24.51 | Orionshock | but prolly go feral |
| 08:25.06 | cncfanatics | lil question |
| 08:25.08 | cncfanatics | about balance |
| 08:25.13 | cncfanatics | whats your stapple dps spell ? |
| 08:25.17 | cncfanatics | (never played as balance yet) |
| 08:25.22 | Orionshock | wrath or starfire |
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| 08:25.26 | Orionshock | pending on mob type |
| 08:25.34 | ccKep | http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=talents.View |
| 08:25.39 | ccKep | thats what droods need |
| 08:25.42 | ccKep | and only that |
| 08:26.05 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: how so ? |
| 08:26.16 | cncfanatics | supose ur in a raid, which one of the two ? :p |
| 08:26.23 | Orionshock | wrath = nature spell / starfire = arcane |
| 08:26.38 | cncfanatics | yea I know, but that mostly doesn't mater afaik ? |
| 08:27.16 | Orionshock | while i was balance, it was IS-FF-MF-W untill talent proc then SF then refresh dots |
| 08:27.40 | Orionshock | balance druid = aff lock, very utility class |
| 08:27.51 | Orionshock | IS and FF help melee alot |
| 08:28.08 | Corveroth | Well, IS helps the MT, really. |
| 08:28.23 | Corveroth | Rogues'll love ya for FF though =) |
| 08:28.25 | Orionshock | ya |
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| 08:28.42 | Orionshock | FF stacks with sunder perfectly and so everyone likes that |
| 08:28.45 | cncfanatics | whats that proc talent for the record ? |
| 08:28.53 | Orionshock | Natures Grace |
| 08:28.55 | cncfanatics | my knowledge of the balance tree sucks :( |
| 08:29.03 | nevcairiel | shorten'd cast-time on |
| 08:29.07 | cncfanatics | ah |
| 08:29.14 | cncfanatics | I see |
| 08:29.23 | cncfanatics | usin wrath there wld mean the gcd is longer then the wrath casting time |
| 08:29.26 | cncfanatics | makign the gain worthless |
| 08:30.08 | winkiller | all what I hears was. SF = lower mana usage, Wrath = more dps, more mana |
| 08:32.19 | Orionshock | ya but starfire cits hard and often |
| 08:32.23 | Orionshock | 4k starfire hits |
| 08:32.29 | Orionshock | back to back sometimes |
| 08:34.02 | Orionshock | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents2.html?tal=514022010533103521333501105100000000000000000000000000023030201000000000000000000 |
| 08:34.10 | Zyndrome | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/223.html |
| 08:34.11 | Zyndrome | ;o |
| 08:35.40 | charon | ooo ... Primal Tenacity now [...] reduces all damage taken while Stunned by 10/20/30% (old version: 5/10/15%). |
| 08:35.46 | charon | tanking buff :D |
| 08:36.10 | Orionshock | shapeshifting changed to static amount of mana |
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| 08:41.01 | charon | any words of a 2t4 nerf btw? or are they leaving it as it is? |
| 08:41.27 | cncfanatics | charon: primal tenacity got nerfed iirc |
| 08:41.40 | cncfanatics | it now reduces chance to be stunned & chance to be feared |
| 08:41.44 | cncfanatics | they deemed it to imba for arena |
| 08:42.17 | charon | according to the WOR link above it's a duration/damage reduce now instead of a chance to resist |
| 08:42.37 | charon | (it's a chance to resist on live) |
| 08:42.39 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: ya all the resist stuff is reduce duration /dmg |
| 08:42.58 | Orionshock | i think they thought it was imba for everyone |
| 08:43.19 | Orionshock | hehe ... rogues complained thus it got changed. |
| 08:43.32 | charon | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druid/talents2.html?tal=000000000000000000000000000050203213232021053312051135100550300200000000000000000 |
| 08:43.41 | charon | i wonder if there's any reason not to take master shapeshifter as feral |
| 08:44.01 | cncfanatics | more points in the feral tree prolly |
| 08:44.29 | cncfanatics | you skipped the expertise charon ? :o |
| 08:44.38 | charon | shrugs |
| 08:44.58 | charon | i guess i could put 2 from rend&tear into the expertise for example |
| 08:45.19 | charon | but i've never been the expertise/+hit type anyway |
| 08:45.27 | Orionshock | charon: for lvling yes, but i'd drop the 2 in imp shapeshifter for the primal persision for raiding |
| 08:45.29 | nevcairiel | no feral is, and they all fail at that :P |
| 08:45.42 | Orionshock | expertise is better than dmg in some cases |
| 08:45.59 | charon | you may have a point there |
| 08:46.04 | cncfanatics | expertise/+hit is the best dps increase itembudget wise (at least for rogues it is) |
| 08:46.16 | charon | but i'd actually like some numbers on the mitigation caused by expertise reducing parry |
| 08:46.18 | nevcairiel | its also the best aggro increase for tanks |
| 08:46.37 | cncfanatics | charon: hard numbers there wld be hard |
| 08:46.38 | charon | anything else isn't very interesting until my tps actually limits dps |
| 08:46.44 | cncfanatics | its mostly a burst potential decrease |
| 08:47.01 | nevcairiel | oh i didnt notice |
| 08:47.11 | nevcairiel | master shapeshifter gives cat another 4% crit |
| 08:47.19 | nevcairiel | thats what now, 15% through talents? |
| 08:47.22 | nevcairiel | (with aura) |
| 08:47.26 | cncfanatics | something like that, pretty cool :) |
| 08:47.56 | charon | it also gives bear 4% dmg... meaning that MSs is always better than 2 rend&tear because +6%+4% > 10% |
| 08:48.00 | charon | unless i'm missing something |
| 08:48.35 | cncfanatics | think so |
| 08:48.48 | cncfanatics | also, shld be able to find a point to dump into ooc |
| 08:49.09 | charon | oh yeah, forgot that *blush* |
| 08:50.24 | nevcairiel | ooc works for casters now |
| 08:50.26 | nevcairiel | *win* |
| 08:50.30 | cncfanatics | yep |
| 08:50.34 | cncfanatics | also, eclipse looks cool |
| 08:50.41 | cncfanatics | will effectivly make you rotate spells |
| 08:55.07 | Orionshock | ya, OOC res and unphucking of OOC too |
| 08:55.10 | Zhinjio | ok, can someone point me to a generally accepted non-raid spec for rogues? |
| 08:55.16 | Orionshock | now ooc make sense in resto tree |
| 08:55.17 | Zhinjio | someone told me "combat" a couple days ago. |
| 08:55.33 | Zhinjio | or a forum thread, or a person on wowarmory to look at, whatever |
| 08:55.59 | winkiller | Zhinjio: Tharabas on EU-Aggramar |
| 08:56.03 | Zhinjio | Danke |
| 08:56.10 | winkiller | wait, non-raid spec? |
| 08:56.14 | winkiller | why would you use combat |
| 08:56.18 | winkiller | as non-raid? |
| 08:56.28 | Groktar | i think he's just looking for help |
| 08:56.31 | cncfanatics | non-raid spec I'd go muti for fun personaly :p |
| 08:56.32 | winkiller | combat for pvp is so season 1-2 :P |
| 08:56.49 | cncfanatics | winkiller: double AR was damn fun |
| 08:56.58 | winkiller | HARPlol |
| 08:57.04 | Zhinjio | yes please |
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| 08:57.11 | CIA-45 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 08:57.11 | CIA-45 | fix typo |
| 08:57.13 | Zhinjio | non-raid. I'm not even close to being ready to run raids yet |
| 08:57.25 | Zhinjio | and I don't pvp at all |
| 08:57.31 | cncfanatics | oh, pve non raid ? |
| 08:57.33 | cncfanatics | combat |
| 08:57.48 | Zhinjio | this is for running around and farming leather and doing some instances to get geared up |
| 08:58.02 | cncfanatics | if you don't pvp at all i'd go combat personaly |
| 08:58.16 | Zhinjio | ok, so ... once again *grin* ... can you point me to a forum thread or a talent tree image somewhere or something? |
| 08:58.20 | Zhinjio | or armory to look at? |
| 08:58.28 | cncfanatics | I'll link you to my rogue |
| 08:58.32 | Zhinjio | awesome. |
| 08:58.35 | Groktar | well, if it's strickly pve |
| 08:58.39 | Zhinjio | it is |
| 08:58.44 | Groktar | spec what you think will give you the most damage |
| 08:58.46 | Zhinjio | pvp makes me itch |
| 08:58.54 | cncfanatics | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Cotogir |
| 08:59.01 | cncfanatics | change weapon specs depending on ur weps |
| 08:59.16 | cncfanatics | thats with a fist MH & a sword OH (love sword pec) |
| 08:59.19 | Zhinjio | I was turned off from pvp in ultima online, and haven't looked back since |
| 08:59.23 | cncfanatics | s/pec/spec/ |
| 08:59.42 | cncfanatics | its my lil rogue alt :D |
| 09:00.23 | Zhinjio | hmm, I'll need to see what all weapons she's got (this is my wife's toon that she's semi-retired) |
| 09:00.28 | Groktar | i imagine it's fun as a rogue/druid |
| 09:00.33 | Groktar | since it's so easy to escape |
| 09:01.35 | Zhinjio | she has almost all daggers that I can see in inventory and bank |
| 09:01.44 | Zhinjio | except for the dal'rends pair of swords |
| 09:01.54 | Zhinjio | there's got to be much better out there at level 70 tho |
| 09:02.42 | cncfanatics | well, as soon as u enter outland u get amazing weps from quests |
| 09:04.07 | Zhinjio | I"m already 70, and didn't do the levelling. *grin* |
| 09:04.19 | Zhinjio | doesn't look like she kept any of the swords, if she got any *cry* |
| 09:05.52 | Zhinjio | is swords arguably better than daggers, or is that just a personal preference thing? |
| 09:06.18 | cncfanatics | its better the daggers yes |
| 09:06.30 | cncfanatics | swords/fists or just plain swords beats anything |
| 09:08.11 | Zhinjio | alright, I'll poke around AH for some gear, and see how I do. |
| 09:08.13 | Zhinjio | Thanks. |
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| 09:11.43 | Zhinjio | and so for stats to focus on, rogues would be: ap, agi, crit, hit, str, sta? in that order? |
| 09:11.59 | cncfanatics | well |
| 09:12.04 | cncfanatics | they all have a relative value to eachother |
| 09:12.13 | cncfanatics | fuck crit & str though |
| 09:12.18 | Zhinjio | k |
| 09:12.26 | cncfanatics | check EJ for their relative values |
| 09:12.31 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 09:12.37 | cncfanatics | I think an agi is 2 ap, a hit is slightly more |
| 09:12.47 | cncfanatics | you *absolutely* want to be yellow hit capped |
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| 09:14.10 | Zhinjio | "Main Hand" is main hand only, "One Hand" can be either. |
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| 09:15.48 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 09:16.46 | Zhinjio | and if I remember right, you want fastest possible weapon main hand, and slower one offhand (although I don't remember why) |
| 09:17.27 | cncfanatics | eh |
| 09:17.30 | cncfanatics | exactly the reverse |
| 09:17.33 | ccKep | other way round |
| 09:17.38 | cncfanatics | as slow as possible main hand for huge yellows |
| 09:17.40 | Zhinjio | oh? ok. |
| 09:17.43 | ccKep | fast offhand so you receive sword specc procs |
| 09:17.45 | ccKep | , |
| 09:17.48 | cncfanatics | and as fast as possible offhand to get extra energy often & sword spec procs |
| 09:17.50 | ccKep | which are executed with the mainhand :D |
| 09:22.53 | [Ammo] | get mongoose on both swords as well :) |
| 09:23.26 | Zhinjio | yeah, enchants are next.. *grin* |
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| 09:26.21 | [Ammo] | my rogue alt has the 2 merciless swords |
| 09:26.28 | [Ammo] | with mongoose |
| 09:26.30 | [Ammo] | pewpew |
| 09:26.38 | Tamaroth | guys |
| 09:26.50 | Tamaroth | ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
| 09:26.59 | Tamaroth | is now function to set chat hook right ? |
| 09:27.08 | [Ammo] | it's a function to add a filter |
| 09:27.17 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r79330 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: apply brain when coding this time around |
| 09:27.27 | Tamaroth | uhm uhm uhm |
| 09:27.30 | Tamaroth | bugger |
| 09:28.47 | CIA-45 | 03phanx * r79331 10CreatureComforts/CreatureComforts.toc: |
| 09:28.47 | CIA-45 | CreatureComforts: |
| 09:28.47 | CIA-45 | - Remove references to nonexistent files from toc since people can't figure out that local paths to configuration libraries IN OTHER ADDON FOLDERS aren't required when there is no config. -_- |
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| 09:31.13 | Zhinjio | 2x Felsteel Longblades wouldn't suck too much |
| 09:31.45 | Zhinjio | probably something faster in main hand would be better, tho |
| 09:31.56 | cncfanatics | you want something SLOW SLOW SLOW SLOW in the mainhand |
| 09:32.08 | cncfanatics | I would use a 4.0 speed wep if I could :p |
| 09:32.20 | Zhinjio | oh, sorry, I had it reversed again |
| 09:33.47 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r79332 10SmoothQuest/SmoothQuest.lua: SmoothQuest: better cleanup of temp tables |
| 09:34.42 | Tamaroth | so, can you like, have a look on this: http://pastebin.com/m7ba279ce |
| 09:34.56 | Tamaroth | and say if it's gonna work as intended ? :) |
| 09:35.02 | Tamaroth | (i can't test it ingame atm) |
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| 09:37.49 | cncfanatics | :o |
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| 09:41.15 | charon | Tamaroth: some people are skilled enough to spot mistakes by looking at code. i doubt there are any who can tell that it is going to work without running it, or that anyone could be bothered |
| 09:41.28 | Zhinjio | ok, leaving off the 5/5 in fist weapon spec for now. where would dump it instead? |
| 09:41.32 | Zhinjio | maybe imp.evis? |
| 09:41.53 | cncfanatics | in assa |
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| 09:42.07 | Tamaroth | charon: well, what i ment can you spot some major mistakes :) |
| 09:42.09 | cncfanatics | with only sword spec I'd go for this: (sec, making build) |
| 09:42.16 | Zhinjio | k |
| 09:42.33 | Tamaroth | but fair enough :) |
| 09:43.13 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebovZMIV0bVzxMGkt Zhinjio |
| 09:43.24 | cncfanatics | you're not suposed to use evisc often, so not really worth taking |
| 09:43.27 | cncfanatics | <3 rupture |
| 09:44.18 | winkiller | Zhinjio: I linked my raiding spec, not too bad for grinding. but I'd use 17/0/44 Sub for grinding |
| 09:44.22 | winkiller | much more fun |
| 09:44.58 | Tamaroth | sub for grinding is fun ? |
| 09:45.00 | cncfanatics | I'd think combat is faster grinding actualy |
| 09:45.01 | Tamaroth | when ? |
| 09:45.08 | cncfanatics | and grinding is never fun anyway |
| 09:45.25 | Tamaroth | if you want fun spec go muti |
| 09:45.39 | Tamaroth | then it's fun :) |
| 09:46.14 | Arrowmaster | Tamaroth: how old is the code in that pastebin link? |
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| 09:46.51 | Tamaroth | Arrowmaster: old |
| 09:47.06 | Tamaroth | exactly how old i don't know |
| 09:47.13 | Tamaroth | from around 2.1 i think |
| 09:47.17 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:47.17 | Tamaroth | why ? :) |
| 09:47.25 | Arrowmaster | im guessing its from pre tbc |
| 09:47.33 | Tamaroth | base code yes |
| 09:47.52 | Tamaroth | why, did they changed that much ? :) |
| 09:47.56 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:48.03 | Arrowmaster | lua5.0 to lua5.1 |
| 09:48.04 | Tamaroth | well, good to know >< |
| 09:48.16 | Tamaroth | thus this is still working right ? |
| 09:48.25 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 09:48.41 | Tamaroth | hmm :( |
| 09:48.48 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue if it will work since a lot of the functions used arent included in the pastebin |
| 09:49.39 | Tamaroth | well, you can easly exclude FHS_SpamFilter |
| 09:49.41 | Arrowmaster | and what is included is fairly poor quality |
| 09:50.22 | Tamaroth | huh, good to know :) |
| 09:50.24 | Orionshock | Tamaroth: i've got a slight patch that i'll paste up if u want |
| 09:50.33 | Tamaroth | sure |
| 09:51.21 | Orionshock | http://pastebin.com/m6d130118 |
| 09:51.26 | Fisker- | ai am having hate Orionshock |
| 09:51.35 | Orionshock | sorry cbf finding the segment because im doing BT atm |
| 09:51.39 | Orionshock | Fisker-: ? |
| 09:52.16 | Orionshock | ln 459 |
| 09:52.43 | Tamaroth | np Orionshock, found it |
| 09:52.48 | Orionshock | search for CreateFrame |
| 09:52.50 | Orionshock | lol |
| 09:53.51 | Tamaroth | well, i'm a bit new to this, but dudes agreed that i can try and update it a bit |
| 09:53.59 | Tamaroth | i've added raising blinds as well |
| 09:54.09 | Tamaroth | seems to be working |
| 09:54.24 | Arrowmaster | # |
| 09:54.24 | Arrowmaster | local frame = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 09:54.34 | Arrowmaster | frame:UnregisterAllEvents() |
| 09:54.37 | Arrowmaster | i loled |
| 09:54.46 | Tamaroth | brb luinch |
| 09:54.49 | Tamaroth | lunch* |
| 09:55.13 | charon | Arrowmaster: good programmers look both ways before crossing a one-way street ;) |
| 09:55.48 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: i've created frames and registered 2 events to it and for some f |
| 09:55.59 | Orionshock | 'f'ed up reason i got 3 of them i never registered for |
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| 09:58.34 | Zhinjio | how often do you use "Shiv" |
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| 09:59.53 | Zhinjio | and/or envenom |
| 10:03.04 | Groktar | somehow i've gotten a cursor in my firefox |
| 10:03.07 | Groktar | and i can't make it go away |
| 10:03.28 | charon | F7 iirc |
| 10:03.41 | Groktar | woot |
| 10:03.41 | Groktar | ty |
| 10:04.21 | Zhinjio | and recommendations on poison combinations? |
| 10:05.46 | Trell_ | pve - deadly/instant |
| 10:05.51 | Trell_ | and I use envenom all the time |
| 10:06.07 | Trell_ | envenom > eviscerate - but then I'm mutilate |
| 10:06.30 | Trell_ | I never SS (Shiv replaces that for me), and never, ever, ever eviscerate |
| 10:06.52 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 10:06.57 | jaxdahl | i shiv frequently in pvp |
| 10:07.22 | jaxdahl | but SS is the norm for combat spec in pve |
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| 10:08.16 | jaxdahl | i eviscerate when the mob is almost dead or when i have adrenaline rush going and rupture is already up. rupture is my standard finisher but i make sure to keep SnD up all the time |
| 10:09.38 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/download/file.php?mode=view&id=76 <- i about wet myself |
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| 10:10.12 | sb | Groktar: mhh... well, could be better! :p |
| 10:10.22 | Groktar | hehe |
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| 10:14.34 | Zhinjio | great, now ai'm getting ridiculous latency again |
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| 10:25.31 | p3lim | anyone here good with maths? |
| 10:25.43 | Groktar | nooooo |
| 10:25.51 | p3lim | i need to make percent values, 50 = 0%, 2000 = 100% |
| 10:25.54 | Groktar | do these maths involve sums? |
| 10:26.05 | Groktar | o |
| 10:26.08 | Groktar | what's the problem? |
| 10:26.10 | cncfanatics | every single math opperation involves sums |
| 10:26.30 | Groktar | hides from the evil sigma |
| 10:26.47 | p3lim | well, i finally got a gradients code for my memory values |
| 10:27.00 | p3lim | but it only accepts percents |
| 10:27.00 | cladhaire | lua> function foo(x) return (x - 50) / 1950 end; print(foo(50)); print(foo(2000)); print(foo(150)) |
| 10:27.01 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 0, 1, 0.051282051282051 |
| 10:27.19 | p3lim | 0% = green color, 100% = red |
| 10:27.19 | cladhaire | lua> function foo(x) return ((x - 50) / 1950) * 100 end; print(foo(50)); print(foo(2000)); print(foo(150)) |
| 10:27.20 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 0, 100, 5.1282051282051 |
| 10:27.26 | cladhaire | that work p3lim? |
| 10:27.54 | Groktar | lua bot rocks! |
| 10:27.54 | p3lim | yap, thanks |
| 10:27.56 | cladhaire | could be simplified of course, but this way you can see whats happening |
| 10:28.03 | Groktar | i've never seen anyone do that before |
| 10:31.52 | p3lim | bada-bing: http://pastey.net/92615 |
| 10:32.09 | p3lim | ow wait, forgot some stuff |
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| 10:33.26 | cladhaire | oh, you're doing gradients? |
| 10:33.46 | p3lim | lua> function f(x) return ((x - 50) /1950) * 1000 end; print(f(1000)) |
| 10:33.46 | lua_bot | p3lim: 487.17948717949 |
| 10:33.51 | cladhaire | p3lim: http://www.wowwiki.com/ColorGradient |
| 10:33.56 | p3lim | yep |
| 10:34.01 | cladhaire | thats a much more robust version |
| 10:34.03 | p3lim | lua> function f(x) return ((x - 50) /1950) * 10 end; print(f(1000)) |
| 10:34.03 | lua_bot | p3lim: 4.8717948717949 |
| 10:34.56 | p3lim | its more or less the same one |
| 10:35.21 | cladhaire | well ColorGradient accepts multiple even divisions of the color space, and can be reused |
| 10:35.29 | cladhaire | i use it in my addons when I need a gradient |
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| 10:40.41 | Orionshock | grrr 26% on gorefiend |
| 10:41.49 | Groktar | hehe |
| 10:41.53 | Groktar | how long you been at it? |
| 10:42.06 | Orionshock | months on and off |
| 10:42.53 | Orionshock | oh aparently this is the 2nd night we've been trying |
| 10:42.56 | p3lim | lua> function f(x) return ((x - 50) /1950) * 100 end; print(f(1000)) |
| 10:42.56 | lua_bot | p3lim: 48.717948717949 |
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| 10:43.34 | p3lim | but its not that kinda percent the gradient function uses |
| 10:43.45 | p3lim | its 0.0 to 1.0 |
| 10:43.53 | p3lim | 50% beeing 0.5 |
| 10:43.58 | cladhaire | so don't multiply by 100 |
| 10:44.05 | cladhaire | lua> function f(x) return (x - 50) /1950) end; print(f(1000)) |
| 10:44.05 | lua_bot | cladhaire: luabot:1: 'end' expected near ')' |
| 10:44.10 | cladhaire | lua> function f(x) return (x - 50) /1950 end; print(f(1000)) |
| 10:44.11 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 0.48717948717949 |
| 10:44.36 | p3lim | fair enough |
| 10:44.39 | p3lim | but |
| 10:44.49 | p3lim | can i replace that 2000 by 4000? |
| 10:44.54 | p3lim | colors were a bit off |
| 10:45.01 | cladhaire | yes |
| 10:45.08 | cladhaire | just use 3950 instead of 1950 |
| 10:45.44 | cladhaire | all that function does is normalize the value to start at 0 (by subtracting 50).. It then divides it by the highest value (the 100%) minus the 50 again |
| 10:47.12 | Zyndrome | hmmm |
| 10:47.28 | Zyndrome | www.cuil.com , search engine made by former Google employees :o |
| 10:48.27 | Yssaril | tried it looks interesting but the search results are kinda all in your face and you dont know where to look first |
| 10:48.33 | cladhaire | too bad it didn't work very well |
| 10:48.39 | cladhaire | it just plain doesn't find lots of things, which is annoying |
| 10:49.10 | cladhaire | http://www.cuil.com/search?q=world%20of%20warcraft%20programming |
| 10:49.16 | Codayus | Ah...ha... |
| 10:49.27 | Codayus | It defaults to treating everything as a *phrase*. |
| 10:49.32 | cladhaire | yep |
| 10:49.35 | cladhaire | which is terrible :P |
| 10:49.47 | Codayus | Since google has trained people otherwise, I'm going to label that decision as both "terribly stupid" and "wrong". |
| 10:49.55 | cncfanatics | well, thats easely fixed though |
| 10:50.03 | cncfanatics | and it doesn't make sense to either |
| 10:50.34 | p3lim | weird |
| 10:50.42 | Pneumatus | im surprised google dont own the rights to "Safe Search" |
| 10:50.43 | Codayus | Hmm, not obvious how to make it NOT treat things as phrases. I'm revising my initial estimate of "misguided" downwards. |
| 10:50.48 | cladhaire | :P |
| 10:51.09 | p3lim | 31 = green, 2300 = red |
| 10:51.16 | p3lim | both are correct ( i guess) |
| 10:51.33 | p3lim | but then, 1400 = green, 338 = red, 602 = orange |
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| 10:52.41 | Codayus | Wait, it's NOT a phrase. |
| 10:52.55 | Codayus | It's just...completely broken. |
| 10:53.40 | Codayus | http://www.cuil.com/search?q=participation%20in%20communities&sl=long |
| 10:53.44 | Yssaril | try this one http://www.cuil.com/search?q=wowace |
| 10:54.27 | p3lim | name a good picture host that allows me pictures 1,2mb minimum and 1600x1200 resolution |
| 10:54.31 | cncfanatics | Due to overwhelming interest, our Cuil servers are running a bit hot right now. The search engine is momentarily unavailable as we add more capacity. Thanks for your patience. |
| 10:54.32 | Codayus | THAT works, but everything else... |
| 10:54.34 | Codayus | Ah, heh. |
| 10:54.34 | cncfanatics | did we just crash it ? :o |
| 10:54.51 | Yssaril | rofl i think we did :P |
| 10:54.56 | Codayus | Okay, I'll give them a pass for now, I'll assume the retardation was, in fact, the server crashing. |
| 10:54.56 | cncfanatics | p3lim: ftp.<insert an ftp server here>.com |
| 10:55.06 | p3lim | wtb! |
| 10:55.18 | cncfanatics | we crashed their server \o/ |
| 10:55.25 | cncfanatics | 5 ppl hitted it at once ! crash |
| 10:55.31 | Codayus | p3lim: Host it yourself? :-) |
| 10:56.07 | p3lim | cladhaire: http://i36.tinypic.com/2qc2jw3.jpg |
| 10:56.13 | p3lim | cladhaire: see the issue? :p |
| 10:56.23 | Codayus | cncfanatics: I will assume, due to my charitable nature, that it was more than JUST us looking at it. |
| 10:58.07 | sb | cncfanatics: http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/07/28/068211.shtml |
| 10:58.10 | Yssaril | p3lim: yoru code for colors is way off |
| 10:58.18 | sb | so its a _lot_ more :p |
| 10:58.28 | p3lim | Yssaril: its a gradient function |
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| 10:58.44 | p3lim | Yssaril: http://www.wowwiki.com/ColorGradient |
| 10:59.16 | cncfanatics | sb: lemme check |
| 10:59.48 | Yssaril | p3lim: write your own function imo |
| 11:00.39 | Codayus | Oh god |
| 11:00.43 | Codayus | I clicked on a slashdot link. |
| 11:00.49 | Codayus | I was exposed to slashdot comments. |
| 11:00.56 | Codayus | Without warning or protection. :-( |
| 11:01.46 | sb | haha :) |
| 11:03.04 | p3lim | lua> function f(x) return (x / 1000) end; print(x(500)); print(x(1000)); print(x(0)) |
| 11:03.05 | lua_bot | p3lim: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'x' (a nil value) |
| 11:03.21 | p3lim | lua> function f(x) return (x / 1000) end; print(f(500)); print(f(1000)); print(f(0)) |
| 11:03.21 | lua_bot | p3lim: 0.5, 1, 0 |
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| 11:05.19 | cladhaire | Yssaril: why would he write his own when there is a perfectly good one sitting right there? |
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| 11:05.32 | cladhaire | that's _why_ we share functions, so we don't all end up writing the same function 13,002 times |
| 11:05.40 | cncfanatics | Codayus: it seems like a nice idea |
| 11:05.43 | cncfanatics | but, well, it sucks atm |
| 11:05.46 | cncfanatics | needs more polishing |
| 11:05.53 | cncfanatics | and it really should have launched with a beta tag |
| 11:06.18 | Codayus | I thought we shared functions so we could mock other people? |
| 11:06.28 | Codayus | No? Oh... :-( |
| 11:06.29 | cladhaire | p3lim: what you want is green, yellow, red with green being 0 and red being 100 |
| 11:06.41 | cladhaire | that gets you yellow in the middle, with a proper gradient on either side of it. |
| 11:06.56 | p3lim | yes? |
| 11:07.02 | p3lim | thats what ive got |
| 11:07.04 | cladhaire | so in this case you're doing memory, right? |
| 11:07.09 | p3lim | yep |
| 11:07.20 | cladhaire | Do you want to have a static top, or dynamic |
| 11:07.30 | Codayus | cncfanatics: Yeah... Getting slashdotted and falling over is even worse than not even getting mentioned by slashdot, from the POV of a new company trying to get mindshare. |
| 11:07.32 | p3lim | top? |
| 11:07.38 | cladhaire | what is shown as red |
| 11:07.42 | cladhaire | should it be anything over x KiB |
| 11:07.46 | p3lim | 1k |
| 11:07.48 | Codayus | A big chunk of their potential base is now convinced cuil = amateurs. |
| 11:07.49 | cladhaire | or should it be the addon with the highest memory usage |
| 11:07.54 | p3lim | i settled for 1k |
| 11:07.58 | cladhaire | okay |
| 11:08.11 | cladhaire | whats your minimum (i.e. 0 %) |
| 11:08.18 | p3lim | 0 |
| 11:08.18 | p3lim | local r, g, b = ColorGradient((entry.memory / 1000), 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0) |
| 11:08.24 | p3lim | i got it now :) |
| 11:08.29 | cncfanatics | Codayus: exactly |
| 11:08.34 | cladhaire | good :P |
| 11:08.39 | cladhaire | then my work here is done! ;-) |
| 11:08.40 | cncfanatics | though I'll try em out to see what they're worth when they're decent |
| 11:08.42 | p3lim | i just had to swap the red and green |
| 11:08.47 | cladhaire | k k |
| 11:09.08 | Codayus | And "not working right" is possibly even worse than a big "come back later, our servers blow chunks" message. Tisk. |
| 11:10.04 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 11:10.14 | cncfanatics | aren't they saying their servers are burning hot in the down emssage ? |
| 11:10.19 | Codayus | Ah well, WoW had a slightly shaky launch, and look where it is now. |
| 11:10.21 | cncfanatics | at least thats what I got |
| 11:10.26 | Codayus | Yeah, I paraphrased. |
| 11:10.29 | cncfanatics | SLIGHTLY shaky ? |
| 11:10.35 | cncfanatics | you must be joking me |
| 11:10.43 | cncfanatics | WoW's launch was more then slightly shaky :p |
| 11:10.46 | Codayus | Although frankly, it's probably the CODE that blows chunks more than the servers. |
| 11:10.52 | Codayus | cncfanatics: I beta tested Anarchy Online. |
| 11:10.54 | Codayus | So. |
| 11:11.03 | Codayus | WoW was only slightly shaky. :-) |
| 11:11.39 | Codayus | In all seriousness, the WoW launch really wasn't too bad. We can argue over the exact phrasing. :-p |
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| 11:13.18 | cladhaire | I couldn't agree more: "Cuil" is a really dumb name. "Google" is a dumb name too, but at least its pronounciation is obvious to anyone reading the name. Can't say the same for "Cuil". |
| 11:13.22 | Yssaril | hey its back up and will actually find stuff now :P |
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| 11:14.04 | Codayus | Google sounds like it should mean something... "isn't it like, a giant number or something?" |
| 11:14.32 | Codayus | Cuil sounds like a south american drink. "Yeah, my brother got drunk on that stuff in Tijuana once..." |
| 11:14.47 | cladhaire | wow, these results are terrible |
| 11:15.20 | Orionshock | damn... we got ppl in raid using r29112 and r39501 of oRA2 |
| 11:15.22 | Orionshock | :\ |
| 11:15.29 | Orionshock | goes off and kills people... |
| 11:15.32 | Yssaril | those images don't even match anything on those pages wow |
| 11:15.33 | Xuerian | A google IS a giant number |
| 11:15.37 | Codayus | Well, at least it's working now |
| 11:16.02 | Codayus | ....badly. |
| 11:16.25 | Codayus | Xuerian: A common mistake. |
| 11:16.32 | Yssaril | imo a search engine should always be able to find itself this one dosnt /sigh |
| 11:16.37 | Zyndrome | "Cuil" is supposed to be pronounced "Cool" :P |
| 11:16.37 | Codayus | You are thinking of a googol. |
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| 11:16.56 | Codayus | Zyndrome: I'm have a terrible feeling you're right. Which is AWFUL. |
| 11:17.00 | Xuerian | fair enough |
| 11:17.34 | Zyndrome | according to IDG.se , "Cool" is correct :D |
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| 11:42.04 | Zyndrome | http://bp0.blogger.com/_4-PpmLiFNSo/SIrt-MaUoFI/AAAAAAAAAFA/woexCPzpAu0/s1600/PureSkill.JPG |
| 11:42.06 | Zyndrome | kapow! |
| 11:42.12 | Zyndrome | 4.4k JoJ , omg |
| 11:42.42 | cncfanatics | Zyndrome: fisker got near 20k a few days ago |
| 11:42.43 | cncfanatics | old :p |
| 11:43.15 | Zyndrome | give beta key , and I'll stop being stuck in the past |
| 11:43.18 | Pneumatus | JoC is critting over 20k |
| 11:43.20 | Zyndrome | some kid nicked my flying Delorean |
| 11:44.12 | Fisker- | i don't do retardins |
| 11:44.24 | Fisker- | was something some other dude did |
| 11:44.27 | Fisker- | <-holy |
| 11:45.05 | Kuosi | fisker u still sporting ur rogue? |
| 11:45.25 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: reroll resto druid already |
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| 11:56.20 | CIA-45 | 03kunda * r79333 10MailAttachmentCount/ (MailAttachmentCount.lua MailAttachmentCount.toc): MailAttachmentCount: toc toc trick trips |
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| 12:05.22 | Fisker- | nevers Kuja^ |
| 12:05.24 | Fisker- | Kuosi |
| 12:05.33 | Kuosi | :o |
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| 12:08.41 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: roulette ! |
| 12:10.57 | p3lim | Cairenn: ping |
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| 12:16.28 | Kazie | What's better.. chatter or prat? |
| 12:16.34 | nevcairiel | chatter |
| 12:16.36 | nevcairiel | imho =P |
| 12:16.55 | Kuosi | chatter has less useless stuff :P |
| 12:17.07 | nevcairiel | my own chat mod wins anyway |
| 12:17.17 | ccKep | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31134 haha just got that baby for 50g on AH |
| 12:17.18 | Kazie | Which is? ^^ |
| 12:17.18 | [Ammo] | chatter mainly doesn't do registerallevents |
| 12:17.18 | Kuosi | personally been using phanxchat for ages |
| 12:17.22 | [Ammo] | which is the winnner for me |
| 12:18.35 | Kazie | I've been told that prat is worth exchanging.. but it has some features that i wouldn't live without :) such as raid coloring of names, no brackets around the names, showing names as lvl:name:raidgroup, link inviting etc. |
| 12:19.11 | Orionshock | Kazie: chatter has alot of those things |
| 12:19.16 | nevcairiel | Just run without it for a while, and you'll just stop noticing that it was ever there |
| 12:19.24 | Orionshock | lol nevcairiel |
| 12:19.29 | [Ammo] | truth right there |
| 12:19.34 | nevcairiel | I have a self-written chatmod that does only the essentials |
| 12:19.37 | nevcairiel | hiding buttons |
| 12:19.39 | nevcairiel | moving editbox |
| 12:19.40 | Vangual | i've just switched from prat to chatter yesterday, didn't miss a single of those fancy features so far. they're all in there aswell |
| 12:19.49 | nevcairiel | timestamps and shortening channel names |
| 12:19.49 | Kazie | Naah i won't.. tried.. i use it all the.. especially the raid coloring of names and link inviting |
| 12:20.30 | [Ammo] | I need a better name for my nameplate addon |
| 12:20.37 | [Ammo] | all it does is color the healthbar by class for enemy players |
| 12:20.48 | [Ammo] | called it Plated for now |
| 12:21.04 | Kazie | hmm.. ye.. it doesn't really sound like a nameplate addon :) |
| 12:21.05 | [Ammo] | so much easier to 'targe tthe fucking healer' |
| 12:21.12 | Kazie | it sounds like a warrior/paladin armor addon :P hehe |
| 12:21.15 | [Ammo] | it colors the nameplate healthbar |
| 12:21.17 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
| 12:21.18 | [Ammo] | well |
| 12:21.28 | [Ammo] | hence I need a better name |
| 12:22.10 | Kazie | hmm |
| 12:22.38 | Kazie | you could call it healthplated or hplated |
| 12:22.49 | [Ammo] | not really what it does either |
| 12:23.02 | Kazie | It's closer to the actual addon :P |
| 12:23.04 | [Ammo] | ClassColoredNamePlates |
| 12:25.39 | JoshBorke | lame |
| 12:25.51 | JoshBorke | ColorMeTimbers |
| 12:26.10 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 12:26.35 | JoshBorke | you could include a texture to replace the default so it looks like wood :-D |
| 12:26.48 | [Ammo] | I don't really want to replace the texture |
| 12:26.55 | JoshBorke | it was just a joke |
| 12:26.56 | JoshBorke | lamo |
| 12:30.11 | Kuosi | [Ammo]: ooo |
| 12:30.17 | Kuosi | when it's coming out? :o |
| 12:30.26 | Kuosi | only reason i use aloft is the class coloring on enemy plates |
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| 12:31.13 | cncfanatics | [Ammo]: ColorTheLosers ? sounds like a good name imo :p |
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| 12:37.06 | p3lim | clad|away: final result: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw15873.jpg |
| 12:37.56 | ccKep | looks awesome |
| 12:39.36 | Xinhuan | http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8655/uilabeledpc4.jpg whatcha think of this UI |
| 12:39.41 | Xinhuan | some priest in my guild lol |
| 12:39.51 | Kuosi | where you need threat-2.0? |
| 12:39.53 | Neya | urgh... |
| 12:40.04 | winkiller | btw, where do you get fake hostnames on freenode? |
| 12:40.18 | cncfanatics | winkiller: ask an op |
| 12:40.27 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: WHY do people prefer seeing some idiot textures at the bottom of their screen instead of the 3d world ? |
| 12:40.30 | cncfanatics | especialy as healer |
| 12:40.37 | winkiller | ah thanks |
| 12:40.39 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 12:40.44 | syeren | Depends on what they're doing with those textures cnc. |
| 12:40.46 | Xinhuan | some people like the "dashboard" kind of UI |
| 12:40.54 | syeren | If they're shrinking their screen space, that's good. |
| 12:41.01 | syeren | If they're actually overwriting the world with it... |
| 12:41.02 | Neya | they want something to blame when they don't see spelleffects in the game? |
| 12:41.03 | Tamaroth | does bars (like in quarts, or necb) are default UI elements that can be modified ? |
| 12:41.03 | syeren | Then no. |
| 12:41.07 | Kuosi | Xinhuan: seems playable, too much clutter for my taste |
| 12:41.17 | Xinhuan | probably too many bars |
| 12:41.19 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 12:41.24 | cncfanatics | WAY too many :p |
| 12:41.25 | Kuosi | one thing i dont get aswell |
| 12:41.40 | Kuosi | is why ppl keep their own castbar enabled on their unitframes while using castbar mod? |
| 12:42.05 | cncfanatics | more things to blame when you didn't see something and died cuz of it |
| 12:42.16 | syeren | Why people use action bars, why people keep their "TAUREN 70" on their UI. |
| 12:42.23 | ccKep | wth @ ui |
| 12:42.30 | syeren | A whole load of useless shit, just gets pointless asking. |
| 12:42.34 | syeren | They make up retarded excuses. |
| 12:42.37 | Neya | I forgot to add a castbar in my last ui, took me three weeks to discover that I was missing one. |
| 12:42.52 | charon | i love the black text labels that are mostly unreadable |
| 12:42.54 | Neya | but then I play feral, so not really usefull :P |
| 12:43.36 | ccKep | I haaate people with such clumped UIs |
| 12:45.08 | sb | ccKep: mhh - then hate me!! :p http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot071408213551vo9.jpg |
| 12:45.08 | cncfanatics | my UI is like |
| 12:45.15 | cncfanatics | one row of actionbars at the very buttom |
| 12:45.19 | ccKep | looks |
| 12:45.20 | cncfanatics | my chatframe, grid next to it |
| 12:45.24 | cncfanatics | and thats ut |
| 12:45.28 | cncfanatics | s/u/i/ |
| 12:45.57 | EthanCentaurai | http://darkimakuni.deviantart.com/art/Kitteh-92573237 mine pretty clean as I have most of my UI show-on-demand (FuBar, Raid etc) |
| 12:46.37 | cncfanatics | EthanCentaurai: pretty similar here |
| 12:46.43 | Kazie | Mine is also clean ... <3 minimalism |
| 12:46.44 | Kazie | http://wow.kazie.dk/ui/kzuiminiv3/kzuiminiv3.bmp |
| 12:46.47 | cncfanatics | except I have the bottom row of my screen filled with actionbuttons |
| 12:46.59 | cncfanatics | I have everything keybound, but I like seeing the buttons too |
| 12:47.02 | ccKep | sb replace raidframes with a neat small grid and stick those respawn timers somewhere not in the middle of the screen -> happy ccKep ;) |
| 12:47.12 | cncfanatics | ~epic fail Kazie |
| 12:47.13 | purl | Kazie, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Kazie, you are that epic failure. |
| 12:47.18 | sb | ccKep: yup, respawn timer sucks |
| 12:47.25 | sb | but i prefer sRF over grid |
| 12:47.32 | ccKep | http://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/iface_solo.jpg |
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| 12:47.38 | EthanCentaurai | I may even replace PitBull with OnScreenHealth... |
| 12:47.39 | ccKep | need to take a fresh screeny in raid next time |
| 12:47.52 | Xinhuan | why does the BMP load from bottom up lol |
| 12:47.55 | ccKep | ah sek. |
| 12:47.59 | Stanzilla | takes part in the interface orgy http://staneck.de/upload/files/16404e-WoWScrnShot_072608_235903.jpg |
| 12:48.00 | ccKep | omen missing in the screeny |
| 12:48.25 | Kazie | And you fail marked me.. gz ;o |
| 12:48.40 | ccKep | refreshed |
| 12:49.20 | cncfanatics | Kazie: l2png |
| 12:49.35 | sb | Stanzilla: 2.6s GH? go respec! :P |
| 12:49.41 | Kazie | not when it was requested in .bmp |
| 12:49.52 | Stanzilla | sb: shadow gear! :P |
| 12:49.53 | cncfanatics | where was it ? :o |
| 12:50.40 | Zyndrome | http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/cancerUI.jpg |
| 12:50.41 | Zyndrome | shit sucks |
| 12:50.42 | MoonWork | Stanzilla, you screen is too damn big |
| 12:50.48 | Stanzilla | sorry :( |
| 12:50.54 | sb | Stanzilla: mh doesnt matter, 5/5 divine fury should be 2.5s |
| 12:50.55 | MoonWork | i'm looking at that screen with a 20" widescreen and IT WON'T FIT |
| 12:50.57 | MoonWork | wtf |
| 12:51.08 | Stanzilla | sb: well I'm shadow...only healing for that screenshot :P |
| 12:51.10 | MoonWork | how big is that thing. |
| 12:51.13 | Stanzilla | 24" |
| 12:51.14 | Neya | heh, I like that ui Stanzilla, just don't like the actionbars (got no visible actionbars myself) |
| 12:51.16 | sb | Stanzilla: ahhh |
| 12:51.21 | sb | Stanzilla: okay, now i got it ;) |
| 12:51.23 | Orionshock | WOOT -- finaly got Gorefeind down! |
| 12:51.25 | cncfanatics | my UI is slighly more cluttered then that |
| 12:51.27 | cncfanatics | need a grid |
| 12:51.38 | Stanzilla | gz Orionshock |
| 12:51.47 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: get illi down already |
| 12:51.50 | Zyndrome | Orionshock , wow people didn't noob on ghosts? :P |
| 12:52.05 | Neya | didn't you start several hours ago on him, Orionshock? grats though. |
| 12:52.05 | Orionshock | we had about 5 constructs in the raid at 2% |
| 12:52.38 | Orionshock | & ended with 5 ppl standing and all our SS & Ank where down so it was a dry run and we did it |
| 12:53.09 | p4aved | phat lewts? |
| 12:53.19 | Orionshock | still holding for rez |
| 12:53.46 | Stanzilla | do you know what happens when people kill illidan again after a looong time of sunwell only and nobody is taking it serious? yes you have 1 ank boy alive when the event finishes |
| 12:54.01 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 12:54.25 | Stanzilla | was really funny... |
| 12:54.54 | Kuosi | had one of those illidans a while back |
| 12:55.07 | Stanzilla | oh and what caused it was a boomkin that pulled aggro with innervate (yes, that's his story) |
| 12:55.57 | cncfanatics | Stanzilla: the boomkin needs a raidkick / no loot :p |
| 12:56.08 | cncfanatics | preferably both |
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| 12:56.49 | CIA-45 | oUF_IncomingHeals: |
| 12:56.49 | CIA-45 | - Update for latest oUF changes. |
| 12:56.58 | Fisker- | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37602.html xD etc. |
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| 12:58.29 | Orionshock | & first TG kill we get: [Gauntlets of Enforcement] [Girdle of Lordaeron's Fallen] [Plans: Swiftsteel Shoulders] |
| 12:59.06 | cncfanatics | plans, nice |
| 12:59.10 | p4aved | sad panda, guantlets are yet to drop for us |
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| 13:03.07 | Orionshock | lol so 2 pallys roll off for the belt, 52 vs 7 |
| 13:04.59 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: lowest wins in ur guild ? |
| 13:05.52 | Orionshock | lol |
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| 13:18.06 | p3lim | ~LibCrayon |
| 13:18.18 | p3lim | ~LibCrayon-3.0 |
| 13:18.20 | p3lim | bleh |
| 13:18.25 | cncfanatics | ~crayon |
| 13:18.32 | cncfanatics | no luck there :( |
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| 13:18.51 | p3lim | wonder where those docs are :/ |
| 13:19.33 | p3lim | ckknight: ping |
| 13:22.51 | Kazie | What's a better minimap addon? |
| 13:24.12 | Stanzilla | cncfanatics: yeah he fucks up all the time but our raid lead is too "nice" to kick him, he's a long time member |
| 13:24.16 | Lyn_ | AAARRRRRR |
| 13:24.20 | Lyn_ | ah, works now |
| 13:24.21 | Lyn_ | good |
| 13:25.22 | Stanzilla | p3lim: http://wowace.com/wiki/CrayonLib |
| 13:25.38 | p3lim | 2.0, looking for 3.0 |
| 13:25.53 | p3lim | and if you read that page you notice that there is no real documentation, just a listing of functions |
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| 13:26.32 | nevcairiel | those are really self explanatory |
| 13:29.06 | ckknight | p3lim: Chinchilla? |
| 13:29.13 | p3lim | huh? |
| 13:29.35 | Zyndrome | Stanzilla , sounds much like a rogue we have .. currently holds the record in most deaths during raids :p |
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| 13:30.24 | p3lim | ckknight: where is the documentation of LibCrayon-3.0? |
| 13:30.38 | cncfanatics | Stanzilla: he wld get benched if I was a leader in ur guild :p |
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| 13:30.47 | cncfanatics | and if he dramas about getting benched on progress nights, kicked |
| 13:30.51 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 13:33.43 | cncfanatics | Stanzilla: ur casual ? :p |
| 13:33.55 | Stanzilla | yes, M'uru casual |
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| 13:34.50 | Pneumatus | heh, one of our officers got kicked and benched last night from a BT raid |
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| 13:36.27 | cncfanatics | well, even if its the raid leader, if they fuck up, kick imo :p |
| 13:36.36 | cncfanatics | (same for the GM imo :p but he ain't the type to fuck up :)) |
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| 13:48.00 | ckknight | p3lim: *shrug* |
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| 13:51.35 | ckknight | ~laziness |
| 13:51.36 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
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| 13:55.36 | cncfanatics | ckknight: <3 that factoid |
| 13:55.49 | ckknight | there's two others: |
| 13:55.52 | ckknight | ~impatience |
| 13:55.53 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 13:55.54 | ckknight | ~hubris |
| 13:55.54 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 13:58.14 | charon | damn, the third one implies docs. i guess i lose. |
| 13:59.08 | Zyndrome | http://www.lidl.se/se/home.nsf/pages/c.o.pc.p.Head_Shoulders_Shampoo_balsam |
| 13:59.09 | Zyndrome | ;o |
| 13:59.19 | cncfanatics | the first one also does charon |
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| 14:06.04 | charon | oh, i skipped that, indeed |
| 14:06.44 | charon | i usually read about the first one as some variation of "a programmer is someone who will spend four hours writing a program to do a tedious task he could have done manually in one hour" |
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| 14:09.07 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r79335 10Heatsink/Heatsink.lua: Heatsink: fix two rather dumb syntax mistakes, thanks Nodiv. |
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| 14:10.50 | winkiller | charon: but probably he'll have to do it again sometimes, and after 3 times it's time saved ;) |
| 14:11.32 | Ellipsis | plus he probably learns a lot more in the process |
| 14:11.40 | charon | you're preaching to the converted :) |
| 14:11.49 | Ellipsis | thus making himself a far better person than those who just sit there and mindlessly click through the 1-hour version :P |
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| 14:14.34 | cncfanatics | if something takes me more then 30 mins to do manualy i'll most prolly code it :p |
| 14:14.55 | [Ammo] | I just pay someone to do it |
| 14:15.02 | [Ammo] | they can decide to code or do it manual :p |
| 14:15.15 | winkiller | hehe |
| 14:15.27 | winkiller | ah well, some copy/paste formatting stuff. |
| 14:15.42 | winkiller | I spent 30min with 2 regexes and saved someone 5h of work |
| 14:15.55 | winkiller | perfect example when it makes sense |
| 14:17.19 | cncfanatics | well, say |
| 14:17.24 | cncfanatics | once I had about 2000 songs |
| 14:17.26 | cncfanatics | that needed renaming |
| 14:17.38 | cncfanatics | my dad had the brilliant idea, hey, do it manualy |
| 14:18.05 | durcyn | that's why musicbrainz.org exists, imo |
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| 14:20.51 | winkiller | I had mp3s before musicbrainz existed |
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| 14:26.25 | CIA-45 | 03darkimakuni * r79336 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Chatter.lua: |
| 14:26.25 | CIA-45 | Skinner: |
| 14:26.25 | CIA-45 | - Skinner now only disables Chatter's Background/Border module if Skinner's ChatFrame skinning option is enabled. This allows users who prefer an invisible background to fulfill this desire. |
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| 14:32.16 | ShaneSveller | cncfanatics look at the windows prog MediaMonkey, it's got a free version that can rename files, including into subdirs, based on ID3 tags |
| 14:32.27 | ShaneSveller | and can tag files from Amazon |
| 14:32.40 | ShaneSveller | i don't use it as a player at all but I organize stuff with it |
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| 14:33.04 | cncfanatics | well, I'm on linux :) |
| 14:33.10 | cncfanatics | I just wrote a shell script when I had to do that tbh |
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| 14:38.41 | Kazie | Anyone here who's experience with the codes in Pitbull? |
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| 14:40.17 | Stanzilla | points at ckknight |
| 14:41.06 | ckknight | Stanzilla: you know how I feel about pointing. |
| 14:41.32 | Stanzilla | Oh, I forgot my white gloves :( |
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| 14:48.26 | Kazie | How do i make my target frame(in PITBULL) show name of the unit, then if it's a pet show Owner <Pet's name> ?? .. i've tried several codes and combinations now.. but without luck.. it just shows.. nothing for the owner part. |
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| 14:52.35 | Zyndrome | set style to Custom and then fiddle with DogTags |
| 14:52.47 | Kazie | I've been doing that for like 30 min now |
| 14:52.53 | Zyndrome | ;< |
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| 14:53.30 | Kazie | So far i figured how to make it show "Malene Tld's Pet" .. my hunter is named Tld and my Pet Malene.. but it shows Tld's Pet on all units then S: |
| 14:53.34 | Kazie | Which is kinda fail :o |
| 14:53.41 | ckknight | [IsPet ? Guild] |
| 14:54.10 | Zyndrome | and great, EU authservers down + the wow-europe forums are completely trashed |
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| 14:54.42 | ckknight | [IsPet ? Guild Name:Angle ! Name] |
| 14:54.47 | ckknight | Kazie: ^--- |
| 14:55.14 | Kazie | Ahh.. i never guessed to put a ? or ! into the tags |
| 14:55.29 | ckknight | oh, wait |
| 14:55.29 | DJNW | Zyn: I was just working up to asking about that |
| 14:55.39 | ckknight | [IsPet ? Owner Name:Angle ! Name] |
| 14:55.42 | DJNW | now I won't have to reboot my router |
| 14:55.47 | ckknight | Kazie: type /dog |
| 14:55.50 | Kazie | I couldn't find anything of how to manipulate the tags so i kinda had to use my mortal zero-skkills :) |
| 14:55.52 | ckknight | try it in there |
| 14:56.00 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.14 | Kazie | I know .. i've been sitting in there for like 30 min :) |
| 14:56.35 | Kazie | browsing up and down, testing a million ways to make it work hehe... but i honestly never found anything about ? or ! :) |
| 14:56.51 | p4aved | the ej thread a quite a few examples mate |
| 14:57.46 | ckknight | Kazie: it's on the front, in the syntax part |
| 14:58.05 | ckknight | also, you could do [if IsPet then Owner Name:Angle else Name end] |
| 14:59.31 | Kazie | Ty :) silly enough of me to miss the front page(lol) .. but i'll jump right into it so i will hopefully learn to make these things my self :) |
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| 15:00.30 | ckknight | k |
| 15:00.33 | ckknight | learning is fun! |
| 15:01.59 | Kazie | Ye |
| 15:02.32 | Kazie | And it sure is more rewarding figuring it out on your own, when it's been nagging you for a while. |
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| 15:06.11 | Kazie | Hmm.. what operator is ! .. i don't seem to be able to find it in there along with the other operators |
| 15:06.25 | ckknight | it's paired with ? |
| 15:06.38 | ckknight | a ? b ! c => if a then b else c end |
| 15:07.05 | Kazie | Ahh |
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| 15:07.30 | Kazie | ty :) |
| 15:08.39 | Vulcanus | LUA's implementation of the ternary operator is weird |
| 15:08.47 | Vulcanus | in all other languages its a ? b : c |
| 15:08.56 | Vulcanus | and ! is normally "not" :p |
| 15:09.02 | [Ammo] | lua has no real ternary operator |
| 15:09.17 | Vulcanus | fale |
| 15:09.27 | [Ammo] | you can do: x = a and b o rc |
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| 15:09.42 | [Ammo] | but that gives you half an operator :) |
| 15:09.48 | ckknight | Vulcanus: this is not lua, this is DogTag |
| 15:09.54 | Vulcanus | oh XD |
| 15:09.57 | ckknight | it's because : was used as the pipe/modifier |
| 15:10.04 | Vulcanus | middle of conversation entrance fail |
| 15:11.20 | Vulcanus | its so hot these days my comp is running like 5 degrees hotter than usual :( |
| 15:11.20 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 15:11.20 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Vulcanus in half |
| 15:11.28 | Vulcanus | ~kill fewyn |
| 15:11.29 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged graviton gun at fewyn |
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| 15:16.28 | Kazie | is there a modifier for a single space inbetween text? |
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| 15:20.49 | Neya | If it doesn't take a normal space I just add a " " to act as the space, it's ugly but it works. |
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| 15:23.19 | thul | http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/340273984_7zCVR-L.jpg <- picture of the day |
| 15:23.49 | FinalX | what is that? :) |
| 15:23.50 | Kazie | Neya: Thx.. i'll try that :) |
| 15:24.04 | thul | the picture? a picture I took the other day |
| 15:26.02 | EthanCentaurai | it sort of looks like a giant skull half buried in the soil :S |
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| 15:28.31 | Poul|Raider | Bibi, got a friend who is questions the source of the druids changes written on mmo? |
| 15:28.45 | Poul|Raider | some of the changes look like taken from a alpha build |
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| 15:30.11 | Poul|Raider | wouldnt bother you with it if it wasent because hes like almost right about thise things :D |
| 15:31.02 | DJNW | I thought the NDA had been lifted, so stuff's just coming out from the patches on the server, as they happen? |
| 15:31.18 | Poul|Raider | yes |
| 15:31.29 | Poul|Raider | but its not on the server yet |
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| 15:32.00 | DJNW | hmm.... are they pushing stuff onto the beta server through the background downloader? |
| 15:32.11 | DJNW | could be someone trawling the data before it goes live |
| 15:32.49 | JoshBorke | why would alpha content not have been pushed with the beta? |
| 15:33.44 | ccKep | which change specifically Poul|Raider ? |
| 15:33.50 | DJNW | well, I meant in the general "x is finished, but not needed yet, shove it out, but don't switch it on, yet" sense |
| 15:33.53 | Poul|Raider | all of the druids changes :D |
| 15:33.57 | Poul|Raider | ccKep |
| 15:34.11 | ccKep | most of them are due to changes in the official blizzard talent calculator |
| 15:34.22 | ccKep | so they're treated like "coming next build" |
| 15:34.23 | Drundia | does it change in game? |
| 15:34.35 | ccKep | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/talent-index/wrath.html |
| 15:34.46 | Drundia | blizzard talent calculator is input by hand as has issues every now and then |
| 15:34.48 | CIA-45 | 03kneeki * r79337 10ClassButtons/ (ClassButtons.toc Core.lua Localization.lua): |
| 15:34.48 | CIA-45 | ClassButtons: |
| 15:34.48 | CIA-45 | - Updated .toc, added traps to horizontal bar for hunters, changed the long commands to shorter abbreviated ones. |
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| 15:35.24 | ccKep | atleast that's what the current "changelog" comes from |
| 15:35.25 | Poul|Raider | cckep, thats also 2 different thigns written in the calculater and on mmo |
| 15:35.26 | Poul|Raider | so |
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| 15:35.35 | Poul|Raider | you are just reading up what written on mmo |
| 15:35.36 | Poul|Raider | so |
| 15:35.53 | Drundia | they fixed calculator somewhere |
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| 15:36.06 | ccKep | dunno what you mean |
| 15:36.09 | DJNW | eh - enough parser abuse and you could auto-generate the talent trees from the game data |
| 15:36.19 | Poul|Raider | Check the talent calculater you self cckeep |
| 15:36.23 | Drundia | well, let's say affliction talent death's embrace |
| 15:36.33 | Poul|Raider | and tell me if you see the changes to Flourish etc |
| 15:36.48 | Poul|Raider | because its not changed according to the calculater |
| 15:36.53 | Drundia | mmo says "shadow bolt and haunt", eu calc says "shadow bolt and shadowburn", us calc and game says "all shadow spells" |
| 15:37.18 | Drundia | sb and haunt was oldest version from alpha |
| 15:37.36 | Poul|Raider | hench why we was asking for the source of what bibi wrote, because we dont think those changes will go live. They look like how they was in an alpha build before they got changed to what they are now |
| 15:38.10 | Poul|Raider | we just picked up on the druids, might be other stuff to yes |
| 15:38.17 | Drundia | it could be some accidental rollbacks to old versions, but they have other things to do than fix calc |
| 15:38.18 | Neya | Last time I looked at the official talents they were those that are stated on mmo-champion, but now when I look they are not. |
| 15:38.43 | ccKep | same here |
| 15:38.44 | Neya | And last time I looked was yesterday evning ;) |
| 15:39.00 | Poul|Raider | again, the changed make the abilitys back to how they was in a alpha build so i dont think they are going to happen |
| 15:39.08 | ccKep | last time I looked Earth Shield was back at 900 mana (up from 450) |
| 15:39.15 | ccKep | ah oups |
| 15:39.16 | ccKep | it still is |
| 15:39.29 | DJNW | As as ..er.. side note - I'm not seeing the increase range on mind flay... |
| 15:39.45 | Stanzilla | they removed that .( |
| 15:39.47 | Neya | Poul, the newspost reflect on how it was when the post was written, not on how it is currently. |
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| 15:40.27 | Poul|Raider | its still wronge |
| 15:40.28 | DJNW | What! heresy!...bah... should have expected it from the people who knocked 6 yards off ice lance.. |
| 15:40.33 | Poul|Raider | as those changed wont go live |
| 15:41.00 | Poul|Raider | the source was wronge |
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| 15:41.25 | Poul|Raider | but nvm, dont want to decuss it, just wanted to point it out for bibi that he should double check it. |
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| 15:43.15 | DJNW | More importantly, where's all the *SQUEE* over being able to ride a flying, flaming skeletal dragon? http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/boss_sandbox/wyrmrestvanquisher(vehicle-ember).jpg |
| 15:47.58 | Poul|Raider | Faerie Fire range has been increased from 30 to 36 yards. thats not true either, with talent its 36 and without its not |
| 15:51.09 | Kazie | Is there a hide modifier in DogTags? |
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| 15:52.46 | Stanzilla | :Hide("") |
| 15:53.12 | Kazie | tried that.. i must have made a typo then.. :s |
| 15:53.41 | Seerah | Kazie: you can always look in the dogtags help window - there's a sandbox there, too |
| 15:54.05 | Kazie | I know.. but no matter how i use the :Hide it simply just returns true instead of hiding :) |
| 15:54.33 | Seerah | how are you trying to use it? |
| 15:54.41 | Kazie | along with IsMaxHP |
| 15:54.52 | Seerah | what's your tag? |
| 15:55.18 | Kazie | the last one i tried was [IsMaxHP:Hide] which returns "True" on the frame. |
| 15:55.38 | Kazie | I've also tried to use diffrent values for Hide, but it still returns True |
| 15:56.36 | Seerah | what are you trying to Hide? |
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| 15:56.49 | Kazie | hmm.. i think i figured it out.. |
| 15:56.52 | Kazie | Just my HP text |
| 15:57.00 | Kazie | I just tried [Hide("") ? IsMaxHP] and it seems to work |
| 15:57.50 | ulic | Look at the default tags for the "Smart" variant, I think it hides the text when it's at max, just see how it's done there. |
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| 16:01.35 | ccKep | Kazie: [HP:Hide(MaxHP)] |
| 16:01.49 | ccKep | shows current health unless current health == max health |
| 16:05.28 | Seerah | yeah, that's why I was asking what he was trying to hide. IsMaxHP is just a boolean - not a value to hide |
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| 16:08.49 | Kazie | Ahh.. well.. :P .. now i know :P hehe |
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| 16:13.45 | CIA-45 | 03darkimakuni * r79338 10Skinner/UIElements1.lua: |
| 16:13.45 | CIA-45 | Skinner: |
| 16:13.45 | CIA-45 | - Tweak the size and position of container frame names. |
| 16:16.07 | sylvanaar | ok, im not understanding something |
| 16:16.32 | sylvanaar | let me test to be sure |
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| 16:22.24 | cncfanatics | yo peeps |
| 16:22.26 | sylvanaar | nm i think i understand |
| 16:22.51 | Fisker- | sylvanaar understanding lolool |
| 16:23.02 | sylvanaar | i will break you Fisker- |
| 16:23.14 | Fisker- | go ahead and try |
| 16:23.18 | sb | youtube! |
| 16:26.49 | DJNW | holy poop - europe's logins are working again |
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| 16:30.11 | Tigerdyr | Suggestions for a good and decent RaidLoot tracker? Too lazy to write my own ;-) |
| 16:30.33 | sb | Headcount? |
| 16:31.02 | Tigerdyr | mm.. I'll check it out, thanks :) |
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| 16:43.18 | Kazie | is it not possible to use Hide with FractionalHP ? and if you have ' | ' in the middle of your text how do you hide that along with it? :o |
| 16:44.10 | sylvanaar | im still not sure that I completely understand the cause of Prat's high memory use - there are other addons which more code in them which use less memory. I am fairly certain that it has something to do with parts of prat's modules main chunks not being able to be gc'd |
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| 17:09.14 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79339 10Prat/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:09.14 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 17:09.14 | CIA-45 | Some stuff didn't get checked in before i fell asleep, and addition of global |
| 17:09.14 | CIA-45 | environment management for the services to replace their library-like initial |
| 17:09.14 | CIA-45 | design which i didn't like |
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| 17:14.19 | DarkImakuni | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.26 | DarkImakuni | fuck |
| 17:14.35 | Warcraft3 | :o |
| 17:14.41 | ulic | hate it when that happens. |
| 17:14.47 | DarkImakuni | stupid ChatZilla |
| 17:14.56 | DarkImakuni | changes password |
| 17:14.57 | nevcairiel | amazing that noone ghosted you |
| 17:15.33 | Dashkal | DarkImakuni: Might consider putting that into your auto execute list :p |
| 17:16.09 | ulic | or whack backspace a few times before you type it :) |
| 17:16.21 | EthanCentaurai | Dashkal: already have, DarkImakuni is my ghost :) |
| 17:16.30 | Dashkal | :p |
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| 17:17.58 | EthanCentaurai | blames half-baked router |
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| 17:28.18 | Chompers | Threat-2.0\Threat-2.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:1245: attempt to concatenate local 'target' (a nil value) |
| 17:28.43 | Chompers | i was in zg killing a few things, if that adds any sort of context to the error |
| 17:31.06 | charon | Chompers: can you post a full stacktrace please |
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| 17:32.20 | Primer | Is there any PTR going on right now? |
| 17:33.09 | Primer | And does the PTR page still provide the ability to copy characters, download clients, despite there being no actual PTR in progress? |
| 17:37.07 | Chompers | http://ace.pastey.net/92632 charon |
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| 17:41.02 | Funkeh` | jesus christ |
| 17:41.06 | Funkeh` | I hate pugging heroics |
| 17:41.11 | Kazie | Christ is jesus!! ;O |
| 17:41.15 | Funkeh` | "where are you guys" |
| 17:41.20 | Funkeh` | "i think he's saved" |
| 17:41.23 | Funkeh` | oh yeah I'm saved |
| 17:41.27 | Funkeh` | .... |
| 17:41.31 | Kazie | haha |
| 17:41.59 | Funkeh` | throws a pillow at Aiiane in frustration |
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| 17:43.52 | Kazie | What better... SimpleMinimap or Chinchilla? |
| 17:44.07 | Chompers | Funkeh` : throw in poor english and you have an even better group |
| 17:44.16 | Chompers | try both Kazie |
| 17:44.31 | Funkeh` | Kazie, basicminimap! |
| 17:44.40 | charon | Chompers: hmm, that code path has an obscure remark about precisely that happening |
| 17:44.44 | Funkeh` | actually it's probably not enough for you |
| 17:44.51 | Kazie | hmm.. can basicminimap remove all the buttons and stuff? |
| 17:44.55 | Zeksie | cncfanatics: ping. you were trying to get hold of me (was out most of day) |
| 17:44.59 | charon | UnitGUID("target") is returning nil in UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED |
| 17:44.59 | CIA-45 | 03zeksie * r79340 10XPerl_RaidFrames/XPerl_Raid.lua: XPerl_RaidFrames: Fixed... really. The LibQuickHealth udpate thing... yup yup. |
| 17:45.13 | charon | Chompers: or hmm... are you using a [target=mouseover] macro for sunder? |
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| 17:46.34 | Funkeh` | Kazie, there are no options for it, does it all by default |
| 17:47.10 | Vonhinten | What is the deal with this quick health thing again? |
| 17:47.15 | Chompers | i guess it's been seen before then charon, thanks for taking a look |
| 17:47.41 | Kazie | Funkeh`: I see.. so there's no way of scaling it either? |
| 17:47.50 | Zeksie | Vonhinten: monitors UNIT_HEALTH like normal, but also watches copmbat log events and will show the assumed health and signal unitframes to update from this |
| 17:47.51 | Funkeh` | yeah you can scale it |
| 17:47.58 | Funkeh` | but you cant choose what to remove |
| 17:48.01 | Funkeh` | it just removs everything |
| 17:48.09 | Funkeh` | apart from mail and pvp/tracking |
| 17:48.22 | Zeksie | UNIT_HEALTH is only update approx 300ms or so. but combat log events come much more regularly |
| 17:48.31 | Vonhinten | Ah |
| 17:48.48 | Kazie | Funkeh`: Well that's exactly what i need :) |
| 17:49.07 | Chompers | Kazie: i like chinchilla for the number of things to fiddle with |
| 17:49.23 | Kazie | hmm.. is there any minmap addons that can remove that timeInfo thing they addon last patch or something? |
| 17:49.54 | Primer | Anyone know if the PTR page on WoW.com still provide the ability to copy characters, download clients, despite there being no actual PTR in progress? |
| 17:50.27 | Primer | I was trying to help my son's friend setup the PTR client earlier today, after he tried it himself and failed |
| 17:50.27 | nevcairiel | no, it doesnt |
| 17:50.32 | Kazie | Chompers: I justn eed a clean minimap :) |
| 17:50.41 | nevcairiel | ptr client for waht? |
| 17:50.50 | Primer | PTR |
| 17:50.54 | fewyn | ptr isn't even up |
| 17:50.59 | fewyn | do you mean wotlk? |
| 17:51.00 | Primer | I mean, there's only one PTR, right? |
| 17:51.01 | Primer | no |
| 17:51.12 | fewyn | oh |
| 17:51.17 | fewyn | i didn't read what you where asking |
| 17:51.18 | Dashkal | The PTR is whatever patch is being tested. It's otherwise just the normal client |
| 17:51.19 | Primer | The page is providing character copy and download clients right now |
| 17:51.24 | fewyn | no it won't |
| 17:51.28 | fewyn | at least it shouldn't |
| 17:51.31 | Primer | it is |
| 17:51.36 | Primer | because I just did it from 2 machines |
| 17:51.41 | Primer | err |
| 17:51.42 | Primer | 2 accounts |
| 17:52.00 | Primer | but yeah, I was under the impression there was no active PTR going on right now |
| 17:52.08 | Primer | not considering wotlk beta as PTR |
| 17:52.11 | fewyn | they probably just forgot to tank it down |
| 17:52.18 | fewyn | take |
| 17:52.21 | Primer | I'll DPS it down then |
| 17:52.50 | Kazie | Anyonek now a minimap addon that can remove the "Time Info" at the button of the minimap? |
| 17:52.54 | Kazie | know* |
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| 17:57.15 | charon | Chompers: thanks for the bug report... i'll see if i can figure out a way to handle that with CLEU instead of the other event that doesn't state a target |
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| 18:05.20 | Primer | Kazie: You mean that newly added time thing? Interface, show clock? |
| 18:05.41 | Kazie | I found it in Chinchilla... SimpleMinimap and basicminimap won't hide it :S |
| 18:06.23 | Primer | Kazie: the default interface can remove it |
| 18:07.13 | Kazie | hmm.. maybe that's why :) |
| 18:07.14 | Kazie | ty |
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| 18:17.43 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79341 10Prat/services/ (5 files): |
| 18:17.43 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 18:17.43 | CIA-45 | Compile tested and loaded the services in-game, checked that the correct |
| 18:17.43 | CIA-45 | methods are exposed to the Prat namespace. |
| 18:19.42 | sylvanaar | the game now says prat-3.0 uses 136k |
| 18:20.00 | sylvanaar | that there is almost no code in it |
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| 18:20.46 | sylvanaar | oh maybe i didnt take out the ace3 stuff |
| 18:22.50 | sylvanaar | nope, lol, 175k |
| 18:23.58 | sylvanaar | i call bullshit |
| 18:24.11 | Cheads | !rating 1416 |
| 18:24.12 | Xinhuan | 1416 rating gives 325(5s), 286(3s) and 247(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 18:28.35 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r79342 10MobSpells/MobSpells.lua: MobSpells: filter SPELL_AURA_BROKEN(_SPELL) on live, as it exists in 2.4.3, not just 3.0.1. Clean up a couple of leaked globals as well. |
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| 18:36.41 | cncfanatics | Zeksie: pong |
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| 18:38.26 | charon | Chompers: just so i get this straight... did this happen (or do you think it happened) when doing sunder armor, or devastate? |
| 18:38.37 | charon | (probably SA) |
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| 18:41.48 | ramoz | ~seen adrielle |
| 18:41.49 | purl | ramoz: i haven't seen 'adrielle' |
| 18:46.30 | charon | Chompers: and if SA, can you check if that now causes a SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS event |
| 18:46.59 | Kazie | How do i make this: Owner:ClassColor('player') Color other pet owners name the correct class? |
| 18:47.43 | Kazie | It colors my name green as intended, but warlock are green and such.. :s... i tried using 'target' instead of 'player' but that just give it a whole wrong color.. made hunters brown for warrior and stuff :s |
| 18:48.59 | sylvanaar | hrm, i see - maybe i need to just ditch the whole profile concept, i was using 2x the size of the saved variable file worth of memory |
| 18:50.09 | sylvanaar | i dont even get how they arrive at 150k from a 70k saved variable file |
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| 18:53.58 | Pazza_ | maybe the .bak |
| 18:56.18 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar * r79343 10Prat/Prat_ProfileSavedVars/ (. Prat_ProfileSavedVars.toc): Prat: Add a saved variable pullout to profile your saved variable size. It has a side benefit that it backs up your saved variables too. |
| 18:56.21 | ulic | I don't think it loads the .bak unless the .lua is missing or corrupt. |
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| 19:01.17 | sylvanaar | that's not how it works |
| 19:02.04 | sylvanaar | and be careful, its using a side-effect of blizzards stupid implementation of saved variables |
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| 19:02.57 | sylvanaar | i need to make a few refinements still |
| 19:02.57 | raegx | anyone know how to resize the scroll bars that are created when you use <ScrollFrame inherits="FauxScrollFrameTemplate" > ? |
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| 19:06.50 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 19:06.50 | purl | rm -rf's Vulcanus |
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| 19:08.00 | azraelo | Anyone know if Omen has draggable bars (ie. can I drag out me vs. the tank)? |
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| 19:08.10 | azraelo | Like the old version had? |
| 19:11.01 | Dashkal | I'm not certain it made it to trunk, but unlock the window and try. I seem to remember a conversation discussing that |
| 19:12.54 | Antiarc | charon put them in recently |
| 19:13.02 | Gagorian | ckknight: Is it possible to disable the alt + rightclick pitbull options thing? |
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| 19:13.20 | charon | azraelo: unlock omen, right click a bar in single target or AOE mode, click "make pullout" |
| 19:16.04 | Zeksie | cncfanatics: hi. raiding but. did you catch my comment on the forum about player_target_changed? |
| 19:16.08 | Zeksie | and focus ofc |
| 19:16.52 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar * r79344 10Prat/Prat.toc: |
| 19:16.52 | CIA-45 | Prat: Add an optdep on the saved var profile pullout, so it wont wipe out your |
| 19:16.52 | CIA-45 | saved vars. After a reload UI, your saved vars are copied. You can see how much |
| 19:16.52 | CIA-45 | memory they use. Then you can disable the addon, it will retain a copy of them. |
| 19:16.52 | CIA-45 | This can be restored by causing Prat to load before the profile pullout. |
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| 19:22.57 | sylvanaar | that might work better if i just called LoadAddOn and made it LoadOnDemand, that way it could be disabled so you could load it afterwards |
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| 19:26.27 | Kazie | With CooldownTimers2 .. how do i change the font and fontsize of the bars? :o |
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| 19:30.44 | sylvanaar | nice, if you load your saved variables during inital load your reported memory use is say 136k, if you make the addon LoD, it only reports 20k |
| 19:31.50 | Vulcanus | so you want to make it look like its not using too much mem? |
| 19:31.51 | Vulcanus | XD |
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| 19:32.27 | sylvanaar | nice was sarcasm |
| 19:32.44 | Vulcanus | hehe |
| 19:34.47 | Kazie | Anyone know a good Cooldown bar addon? .. similar to CooldownButtons.. just with bars? |
| 19:35.25 | Zyndrome | or just bar : http://www.fortegaming.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=31 |
| 19:35.41 | Zyndrome | (Forte Core + Forte Cooldown , works for all classes) |
| 19:36.12 | sylvanaar | so, basically, in my case where did the 100k go? |
| 19:36.21 | _rane | Kazie: Cooldown Timers 2 or something like that |
| 19:36.40 | Kazie | _rane: I tried that already .. was fine.. but not when i can't resize or change the font |
| 19:36.52 | Kazie | The text was crumpling down to unclear pixels :S |
| 19:38.33 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar * r79345 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat_ProfileSavedVars/Prat_ProfileSavedVars.toc): Prat: Added a LoadAddOn call and made the profiler LoD, this seems to prevent the profiler from reporting the correct amount of memory used by the saved vars. |
| 19:39.28 | CIA-45 | 03smcn * r79346 10Excavator/Excavator.lua: |
| 19:39.28 | CIA-45 | Excavator: |
| 19:39.28 | CIA-45 | - changed default reporting delay to 5 minutes |
| 19:39.35 | Kazie | Zyndrome: How recent has that forte stuff been updated? |
| 19:40.02 | Zyndrome | no idea but it still works well :P |
| 19:40.35 | Primer | !rating 1400 |
| 19:40.35 | Xinhuan | 1400 rating gives 322(5s), 283(3s) and 244(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 19:41.38 | Kazie | Zyndrome: hmm.. maybe i should tried.. but i don't really seem to be able to find anything but that Forte warlock stuff.. and it's not ver systematic in the downloads and stuff :o |
| 19:41.55 | selckin | its on wowinterface too |
| 19:42.21 | selckin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7532-ForteWarlock.html |
| 19:43.01 | Kazie | As i said.. i can't find anything BUT Forte warlock.. i'm a hunter.. i don't need warlock addons |
| 19:43.24 | Kazie | there's not even a link for the Core module |
| 19:44.00 | Zyndrome | Kazie |
| 19:44.08 | Zyndrome | it's all included in the addon |
| 19:44.24 | Zyndrome | just copy the Forte Core and Forte Cooldown folders |
| 19:44.44 | Kazie | Lol... :s |
| 19:44.52 | sylvanaar | that interesting, if i load the addon later, the memory use is correct again |
| 19:44.52 | Kazie | Wierd ;O |
| 19:45.28 | sylvanaar | hmmm....that sounds fishy |
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| 19:46.13 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r79347 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: CastYeller: added a safety net when scanning the spellbook. |
| 19:51.55 | profalbert | is there some addon that pours raidwarnings to libsink? |
| 19:52.00 | ulic | anyone have wowace forum admin rights? |
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| 19:52.10 | ulic | anyone here that is. |
| 19:52.56 | Stanzilla | points at Funkeh` |
| 19:53.00 | ulic | profalbert: you mean you just want some examples? |
| 19:53.17 | profalbert | I want an addon that does it ;) |
| 19:53.48 | ulic | oh I see, something that soaks up all raidwarnings and outputs them to a location of your choice. |
| 19:54.12 | ulic | I vote we call it RWSponge |
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| 20:09.50 | NeoTron | Zeksie: ah xperl uses that instant health thing now? |
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| 20:22.05 | durcyn | ulic: like, uh, ImprovedRWF? |
| 20:26.12 | ulic | maybe, profalbert was actually looking for it, I was just making suggestions for a name of such an addon if it didn't exist. |
| 20:27.08 | profalbert | durcyn: that just makes the frame costumizeable/moveable right? |
| 20:27.33 | durcyn | it's been a while, but i thought you could redirect it to a different frame |
| 20:27.36 | durcyn | i might be thinking of errormonster |
| 20:28.01 | profalbert | errormonster can redirect to libsink (I'm using it) |
| 20:28.21 | durcyn | yes, but that's the error frame, not raidwarning |
| 20:28.27 | profalbert | right |
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| 20:34.33 | CIA-45 | 03darkimakuni * r79348 10Skinner/ (244 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:34.33 | CIA-45 | Skinner: |
| 20:34.33 | CIA-45 | - Nuke trailing whitespace |
| 20:35.21 | charon | switching to git huh :) |
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| 20:36.22 | nevcairiel | 244 fiels o.O |
| 20:36.27 | nevcairiel | Skinner is teh suck |
| 20:36.49 | Hjalte | Does anyone know what addon could cause my minimap to kind of go back to circle, even though whatever addon I am using is making it square? This happens with several minimap-addons: www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_072808_222149.jpg |
| 20:37.45 | Kuosi | everything bad starts from skinner |
| 20:37.47 | Kuosi | base rule |
| 20:39.12 | Kazie | Does anyone know if CooldownTimers2 is a continued addON? .. and more importantly.. how do to resize the text? |
| 20:39.20 | profalbert | I postet every theory-craft I know about CoW, and the MT still wants it on his damn mobs |
| 20:39.47 | Cheads | =) |
| 20:40.17 | Corveroth | Tell him to armor-cap and stop worrying about minor bits of damage |
| 20:40.25 | Corveroth | If he's a warrior, just laugh instead =) |
| 20:40.28 | azraelo | charon: thanks for the response about omen draggable bars, had to afk shortly after asking |
| 20:40.31 | profalbert | he is ;) |
| 20:40.54 | durcyn | then he's a bloody idiot |
| 20:41.04 | durcyn | curse of weakness is pure garbage |
| 20:41.16 | Corveroth | I'll take CoR over CoW any day |
| 20:41.28 | NivFreak | CoR if you have imp DS |
| 20:42.09 | NivFreak | We use CoW on archimonde, just because it's much easier to keep up in the chaos, and dps doesn't matter much |
| 20:42.09 | durcyn | CoR always, there aren't any bosses in T6/SWP that have attacks modified by AP anymore |
| 20:42.10 | NivFreak | huh? |
| 20:42.11 | NivFreak | since when |
| 20:42.12 | durcyn | 640 armor reduction is huge |
| 20:42.17 | durcyn | special attacks, i mean |
| 20:42.21 | NivFreak | you don't reck azgalor |
| 20:42.27 | NivFreak | we won't reck archimonde |
| 20:42.29 | Corveroth | Sure ya do. |
| 20:42.31 | durcyn | hell yes i do. |
| 20:42.35 | durcyn | be less bad. |
| 20:42.40 | Corveroth | Hits a druid for 7k, tops. |
| 20:42.50 | NivFreak | yes, tell the guild that is 5/5 7/9 in mostly t4/badge gear they are bad |
| 20:42.51 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:43.03 | durcyn | no, that's understood. be less so. =P |
| 20:43.12 | Diao | uhh |
| 20:43.22 | NivFreak | anyway, there are generally 3 bosses you don't wreck pre-sunwell |
| 20:43.27 | Corveroth | But really, CoR is a *massive* increase, especially in a physical-heavy raid like mine. Full melee group, three hunters, one or two melee elsewhere... |
| 20:43.31 | NivFreak | gruul (at proper gear level) |
| 20:43.35 | Diao | there's bosses that don't have ap modifiers? |
| 20:43.37 | NivFreak | tidewalker |
| 20:43.38 | Diao | wtf? |
| 20:43.39 | NivFreak | and azgalor |
| 20:44.03 | Corveroth | CoE > CoR > CoD. Curse priority on every single bosses. |
| 20:44.13 | NivFreak | yep |
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| 20:44.19 | NivFreak | unless they kill your tanks |
| 20:44.20 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 20:44.23 | Corveroth | *Every* bosses. |
| 20:44.28 | NivFreak | uh huh |
| 20:44.36 | Corveroth | Tell your tanks to l2stam or something. |
| 20:44.44 | NivFreak | I have 24K health buffed |
| 20:44.49 | NivFreak | what's your point |
| 20:44.59 | Corveroth | Well then what's the problem? Bad healers? |
| 20:45.00 | Diao | which bosses don't have attacks modified by ap? |
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| 20:45.15 | durcyn | i'm not talking about melee swings, Diao |
| 20:45.19 | NivFreak | Corveroth: silences and azgalor's hard hits + rain of fire can == dead |
| 20:45.44 | Corveroth | Silences are why timers and HoTs exist. |
| 20:45.51 | durcyn | also, your creative solution to azgalor makes me sad. if you die during silences, you either have too few druids, or too few healers wearing shadow resist |
| 20:45.52 | NivFreak | because hots heal 20K in 2 seconds? |
| 20:45.57 | nevcairiel | Just get improved demo shout, and you compensate for CoR already =P |
| 20:46.10 | durcyn | i'd also venture to say that 24k hp means you're missing some avoidanc |
| 20:46.12 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: we already established that |
| 20:46.13 | durcyn | +e |
| 20:46.22 | nevcairiel | i probably missed that line |
| 20:46.26 | NivFreak | durcyn: my avoidance set is ~80% avoidance |
| 20:46.27 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:46.42 | Corveroth | So how in the hell in Azgalor gonna gib ya during Silence? |
| 20:46.42 | NivFreak | man |
| 20:46.44 | NivFreak | I used that on mother |
| 20:46.44 | nevcairiel | including block? |
| 20:46.48 | NivFreak | no fucking rage |
| 20:46.50 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: yes, not pure |
| 20:47.05 | nevcairiel | I was about to say.. :P |
| 20:47.08 | NivFreak | man, mother was stupid easy |
| 20:47.12 | NivFreak | council was hilarious |
| 20:47.17 | NivFreak | the night ended after a few pulls |
| 20:47.28 | NivFreak | and our mage tank goes, oh... I was out of range for spellsteal all those tries.. |
| 20:47.37 | NivFreak | I almost exploaded |
| 20:47.42 | Corveroth | ...wow. |
| 20:47.47 | NivFreak | yea... |
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| 20:47.57 | NivFreak | we have 3 mages |
| 20:48.01 | NivFreak | 1 I can rely on |
| 20:48.06 | NivFreak | the other two... well |
| 20:48.16 | NivFreak | sadly the one I can rely on, doesn't have stam gear yet |
| 20:48.24 | Corveroth | That's about as bad as our OT... Omen never worked for us on Bloodboil, and then someone checks Recount: "Taunt Immune 25 (100%)" |
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| 20:48.34 | NivFreak | lol |
| 20:48.34 | Corveroth | Some people.... |
| 20:48.36 | Diao | lol |
| 20:48.47 | Diao | would you guys advise using any SR gear against archi |
| 20:48.52 | NivFreak | nah |
| 20:48.53 | Corveroth | Nah |
| 20:48.57 | Ozguli | nah |
| 20:49.01 | Diao | just pvp trink? |
| 20:49.01 | NivFreak | I'd advice cutting yourself |
| 20:49.03 | NivFreak | over and over |
| 20:49.07 | Diao | lol |
| 20:49.08 | NivFreak | 2min trinkets are life savers |
| 20:49.09 | NivFreak | yes |
| 20:49.10 | nevcairiel | yeah pvp trink and l2tear |
| 20:49.15 | Diao | well |
| 20:49.21 | Diao | people don't die to tears for us |
| 20:49.28 | Diao | they die because half of them can't run in a straight line |
| 20:49.30 | Diao | so fire goes everywhere |
| 20:49.35 | profalbert | well, I don't CoR w/o imp demoshout |
| 20:49.35 | NivFreak | we actually have very few issues with craters, and still have tons of retards who like to wait for casts to finish while doomfire is headed thier way |
| 20:49.37 | Corveroth | Fire is random. |
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| 20:49.44 | nevcairiel | yeah, fire is totally random |
| 20:49.51 | Diao | doesn't the fire chase a specific player |
| 20:49.55 | NivFreak | yes |
| 20:50.04 | Diao | yeah so |
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| 20:50.07 | NivFreak | you can properly kite the fire, but it will randomly chain to another group at some point |
| 20:50.10 | NivFreak | and circle |
| 20:50.13 | Diao | well |
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| 20:50.16 | Diao | we have people who run in circles |
| 20:50.17 | Diao | for no reason |
| 20:50.20 | NivFreak | haha |
| 20:50.23 | NivFreak | kick them |
| 20:50.24 | Diao | even though we yell at them to run in straight lines |
| 20:50.29 | Corveroth | Consider fire random, for all intents and purposes. Are you using a four-group strategy? |
| 20:50.30 | NivFreak | we've killed archimonde with 20 people |
| 20:50.34 | Diao | yeah 4 group |
| 20:50.35 | NivFreak | it was easier than 5 retards in raid |
| 20:50.45 | NivFreak | We use 3 groups |
| 20:50.46 | Diao | 4 corners, then melee in center |
| 20:50.54 | Diao | 1 dispeller/healer per group |
| 20:51.42 | Corveroth | Really shouldn't be too much of a problem then. Do you have people calling out when they get torched? |
| 20:51.42 | NivFreak | I like 3 groups better than 4, but it really depends on where you position |
| 20:51.59 | Diao | sometimes |
| 20:52.08 | Diao | we've also had a thing where |
| 20:52.12 | Diao | someone will get airbursted |
| 20:52.16 | Diao | and then they use their tear and land in a fire |
| 20:52.21 | NivFreak | yep |
| 20:52.22 | Corveroth | Yea, shit happens. |
| 20:52.24 | NivFreak | gotta heal them |
| 20:52.38 | Corveroth | Make sure it gets announced somewhere, somehow- it doesn't show on Grid by default. |
| 20:52.46 | NivFreak | our groups are pretty stacked |
| 20:52.56 | NivFreak | we put 1 CoH priest and 1 resto druid in each of our 3 groups |
| 20:52.59 | NivFreak | and either a mage or a druid |
| 20:53.14 | Diao | i guess it doesn't help that we only have 1 consistent shaman either |
| 20:53.23 | Corveroth | Oh, hell, that's gotta hurt |
| 20:53.30 | Diao | we had 9 priests lol |
| 20:53.32 | NivFreak | tremor totem makes thing so much better |
| 20:53.33 | Diao | lots of fear wards >.> |
| 20:53.35 | Corveroth | Tremor is HUGE |
| 20:53.38 | NivFreak | but we've done it with 2 |
| 20:53.39 | Diao | but no tremor :( |
| 20:54.17 | Corveroth | Dunno where you tank him, but we usually have his back right up against the fallen log. |
| 20:54.29 | Corveroth | Good chunk of the fires behind him run into it and melee can just step aside. |
| 20:54.36 | Diao | that's about where i tank it |
| 20:54.40 | Diao | until doomfire crosses over me (MT) |
| 20:54.42 | Diao | and i haev to move it |
| 20:55.00 | Corveroth | Just rotate him, if you can. |
| 20:55.17 | NivFreak | yea, you learn how much you can shift |
| 20:55.19 | NivFreak | as the tank |
| 20:55.19 | NivFreak | also |
| 20:55.24 | Corveroth | Use the log as a fire absorber, closer he is, more effective. |
| 20:55.25 | NivFreak | the best advice I was ever given is this |
| 20:55.31 | NivFreak | get as close to him while tanking as possible |
| 20:55.36 | Diao | i stand like |
| 20:55.38 | Diao | under his feet almost |
| 20:55.40 | NivFreak | and the doomfires won't spawn on you |
| 20:55.50 | NivFreak | if you go max hit box range, they spawn on top of you |
| 20:55.50 | Diao | but just far enough away that i don't egt airbursted by melee |
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| 20:55.53 | Diao | yeah, i know |
| 20:55.58 | Diao | i told melee to stand closer as well |
| 20:56.00 | NivFreak | I didn't know that when we started |
| 20:56.01 | NivFreak | yep |
| 20:56.16 | NivFreak | We figured out our issue with the fires doing 180s over melee |
| 20:56.23 | Corveroth | Yup. |
| 20:56.23 | NivFreak | was that we introduced a tauren melee dps |
| 20:56.32 | NivFreak | and his hit box/model was big enough |
| 20:56.36 | NivFreak | that the doomfire would target him |
| 20:56.41 | NivFreak | and destroy melee |
| 20:56.45 | Corveroth | Bingo. |
| 20:57.13 | Corveroth | Enhance shaman and fury warrior are our melee taurens =/ |
| 20:57.47 | Diao | we have no cows in our raids :D |
| 20:57.51 | Diao | except a hunter |
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| 20:57.58 | NivFreak | we have a joke ban on orc enh shamans |
| 20:58.01 | Diao | and a couple druids i guess |
| 20:58.02 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r79349 10HealGraph/ (Graph.lua HealGraph.lua HealGraph.toc IncomingDamage.lua): |
| 20:58.02 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 20:58.02 | CIA-45 | - rewrote incoming damage detection |
| 20:58.02 | CIA-45 | - added "healtarget" unit for use as graph (not yet fully tested) |
| 20:58.03 | CIA-45 | - fixed several bugs |
| 20:58.05 | Diao | but they're trees anyway |
| 20:58.07 | Diao | so it doesn't matter |
| 20:58.08 | Corveroth | Really, I think our single biggest helping factor is that one of our mages completely ignores DPS and runs around decursing everyone faster than anyone else reacts. |
| 20:58.22 | NivFreak | everyone of the orc enh shaman we've had, has exploaded in drama and quit |
| 20:58.22 | Diao | ah |
| 20:58.25 | Diao | lol |
| 20:58.42 | NivFreak | Corveroth: I use my two feral tanks for that |
| 20:58.47 | NivFreak | they decurse in healing gear the whole fight |
| 20:58.58 | Corveroth | We use our feral tank (me) for DPS =P |
| 20:59.08 | NivFreak | dps is really not that important there |
| 20:59.09 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:59.21 | NivFreak | it just shortens your failure window |
| 20:59.36 | Corveroth | I usually get about 25% decurses (I *do* try!), the mage gets 50-60% |
| 21:00.22 | Corveroth | He just blinks around and takes care of three groups at once, and rocket boots to anyone that gets air-bursted with the curse. He's insane. |
| 21:00.29 | NivFreak | can you decurse in cat form? :P |
| 21:00.39 | NivFreak | or are you wrath spamming |
| 21:00.52 | Corveroth | Casting decurse unshifts you |
| 21:00.56 | NivFreak | right |
| 21:01.01 | NivFreak | isn't that mana intensive? |
| 21:01.04 | Corveroth | A bit. |
| 21:01.08 | Corveroth | I chug a lot of mana pots. |
| 21:01.27 | NivFreak | that's dedication |
| 21:01.30 | Corveroth | And I'm specced into Nat. Shapeshifter because I powershift anyways. |
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| 21:10.14 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: ping |
| 21:13.24 | CIA-45 | 03endeavour * r79350 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): |
| 21:13.24 | CIA-45 | BossTalk: |
| 21:13.24 | CIA-45 | - Added more quotes, now over 1000 included |
| 21:13.24 | CIA-45 | - Minor bug fixes |
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| 21:15.02 | NeoTron | Diao: the fire CAN follow people but doesn't do so as persistently as it used to which means it's more random |
| 21:15.09 | NeoTron | for ranged DPS that typically means it's a lot easier |
| 21:15.12 | NeoTron | and it's harder for melee |
| 21:15.22 | NeoTron | yesterday I did archimonde without having to move |
| 21:15.27 | Diao | ah |
| 21:15.40 | NeoTron | I had to stop dpsing for threat reasons which never happened before (I didn't even get airburst) |
| 21:18.25 | NivFreak | wow |
| 21:18.26 | NivFreak | that's odd |
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| 21:21.41 | NivFreak | man |
| 21:21.50 | NivFreak | so we continue to struggle with bloodboil every week |
| 21:22.01 | NivFreak | we kill him, but it's never a one shot |
| 21:22.12 | NivFreak | I bought 10 healers last night, just to see if that was really an issue |
| 21:22.20 | NivFreak | we still had problems |
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| 21:23.50 | Kuosi | hum |
| 21:23.53 | selckin | whats the problem? |
| 21:23.58 | Kuosi | just met a 1298 rated team in 3v3 |
| 21:24.04 | Kuosi | our team rating 2197 |
| 21:24.09 | Kuosi | good thing the queue system works |
| 21:25.44 | NivFreak | selckin: one of two things |
| 21:26.04 | NivFreak | either, 1) healers fail to all spam max rank heals on the fel rage target |
| 21:26.13 | NivFreak | or 2.) Healers are OOM, leading to #1 |
| 21:26.33 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79351 10Babble-2.2/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 21:26.33 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: |
| 21:26.33 | CIA-45 | - update ruRU localizations |
| 21:26.38 | raegx | mmmmm is there a standard ace way to create minimap icons and if so....can anyone kindly point me in the direction either the library or documentation on it? |
| 21:26.40 | selckin | give em a shadowpriest |
| 21:26.52 | NivFreak | we can only give half the healers spriest ;) |
| 21:26.59 | NivFreak | and do |
| 21:27.01 | selckin | 2 spriests ? |
| 21:27.05 | NivFreak | I'm down one atm |
| 21:27.12 | NivFreak | hopefully that'll get worked out soon |
| 21:27.25 | NivFreak | there is an amazing shortage of skilled spriests on my realm |
| 21:27.29 | NivFreak | not sure how normal that is |
| 21:27.45 | NivFreak | I don't bring spriests who do 700-800dps to raids... |
| 21:29.06 | raegx | my guild just puts 2 coh priests + 1 druid + 1 spriests into a bb group together. Have coh priest 1 on bb g1 coh priest 2 on bb g2 and the druid on bb g3. As long as the transitions are smooth the shamans should pick up the aoe gas dmg and the pallies and other healers can cover the tanks |
| 21:29.14 | raegx | no 2nd spriest |
| 21:29.18 | Corveroth | Does everyone know their class-specific survival tricks? Are your hybrids helping to heal during Fel Rage? |
| 21:30.02 | raegx | the only ppl who die to fel rage are the priests and mages normally |
| 21:30.07 | raegx | if at all |
| 21:30.12 | raegx | all healers switch to fel raged person |
| 21:30.26 | raegx | have the stronger coh priest take over the 2nd coh priests bb group |
| 21:30.31 | raegx | have him help on felraged |
| 21:30.42 | raegx | all healers on thatperson. Watch out for the MS at the end |
| 21:30.44 | Corveroth | Can't be all healers. Gotta have someone to wrap up the Bloodboil groups and keep your tanks up (Acidic Wounds HURT) |
| 21:30.52 | raegx | the coh priest |
| 21:30.55 | raegx | bb1 and bb2 |
| 21:31.02 | raegx | the druids hots tick on bb3 (if it even hit) |
| 21:31.08 | Corveroth | And he manages the tank(s) as well? |
| 21:31.18 | raegx | negative the pallies are on that |
| 21:31.18 | raegx | 2 pallies |
| 21:31.19 | NivFreak | Corveroth: yes and yes |
| 21:31.23 | raegx | 1 pally is on tanks at all times |
| 21:31.24 | NivFreak | Corveroth: it's always clothies that kill us |
| 21:31.27 | NivFreak | priests or mages |
| 21:31.32 | NivFreak | and priests are sort of failing |
| 21:31.33 | NivFreak | :P |
| 21:31.34 | raegx | the other (stronger pally) watches the tanks and fel raged |
| 21:31.35 | Corveroth | Elixir of Major Defense? *grin* |
| 21:31.47 | raegx | if priests go down they didn't refresh IF |
| 21:32.07 | raegx | mages are just kinda fucked |
| 21:32.33 | NivFreak | raegx: and that's not true, inner fire won't keep them alive by itself ;) |
| 21:32.36 | Corveroth | Hey, one of our mages has handled it no problem. And he *did* use that Elixir. |
| 21:32.47 | NivFreak | which elixir? |
| 21:32.48 | raegx | niv: its just usualy what happened |
| 21:32.53 | Corveroth | Major Defense. +550 armor. |
| 21:32.57 | NivFreak | pfft |
| 21:33.03 | NivFreak | I gave mine ironshields |
| 21:33.10 | raegx | meh you don't have to believe me |
| 21:33.11 | Corveroth | Ooh, nice idea |
| 21:33.19 | NivFreak | raegx: I have logs ;P |
| 21:33.28 | raegx | im a priest btw |
| 21:33.30 | raegx | holy |
| 21:33.36 | NivFreak | so |
| 21:33.42 | NivFreak | the biggest failure I think I see on priests |
| 21:33.49 | NivFreak | is them trying to fucking gheal themselves... |
| 21:33.52 | NivFreak | zomg flash heal |
| 21:34.02 | raegx | yea that is also failure |
| 21:34.04 | Corveroth | Well, tell them they're fucktarded and go from there. |
| 21:34.08 | Gagorian- | binding heal tbh :C |
| 21:34.18 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:34.20 | NivFreak | not a bad plan |
| 21:34.30 | NivFreak | quick, put on 2pc d3 ! |
| 21:34.37 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 21:34.56 | raegx | my guild just puts 2 coh priests + 1 druid + 1 spriests into a bb group together. Have coh priest 1 on bb g1 coh priest 2 on bb g2 and the druid on bb g3. As long as the transitions are smooth the shamans should pick up the aoe gas dmg and the pallies and other healers can cover the tanks |
| 21:35.04 | raegx | woops wrong msg |
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| 21:35.14 | raegx | mmmmm is there a standard ace way to create minimap icons and if so....can anyone kindly point me in the direction either the library or documentation on it? |
| 21:35.16 | raegx | there we go |
| 21:35.50 | NivFreak | so |
| 21:35.52 | NivFreak | our priest this week |
| 21:35.59 | NivFreak | took 30K dmg in ~1 second |
| 21:36.05 | NivFreak | he had inner fire up |
| 21:36.10 | Corveroth | On the one hand, I think there should be a way to do minimap icons, but on the other, I really don't want that to be encouraged. |
| 21:36.16 | NivFreak | he was healing himself, but gheal for christs sake |
| 21:36.22 | NivFreak | I yelled a lot about that... |
| 21:36.31 | raegx | yelling helps no one but make other hate you |
| 21:36.34 | Arrowmaster | LibDataBroker-1.1 |
| 21:36.37 | NivFreak | raegx: we use 3 CoH priests |
| 21:36.47 | raegx | thats cool then it should be easier |
| 21:36.52 | NivFreak | raegx: wrong, this has been the same mistake 6 times in 2 weeks |
| 21:36.55 | raegx | bb1: coh, bb2: coh, bb3: coh |
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| 21:36.56 | NivFreak | and I tell him before each time |
| 21:37.01 | NivFreak | raegx: we do that :P |
| 21:37.07 | NivFreak | bloodboil healing isn't a problem |
| 21:37.09 | Aeyan | My priests hardest death was a 21k hit I did to myself |
| 21:37.11 | Corveroth | Shield-renew-PoM-binding/flash spam, right? |
| 21:37.35 | Corveroth | Aeyan: Netherspite? |
| 21:37.44 | Aeyan | Oh yes |
| 21:37.47 | Aeyan | My second time, hehe |
| 21:37.54 | NivFreak | we actually started bloodlusting healers when clothies get focused ;) |
| 21:37.56 | Corveroth | Shadow Word: Oh Fuck |
| 21:38.05 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:38.08 | NeoTron | NivFreak: usually when I have a problem with healers I bring one less |
| 21:38.08 | Aeyan | I jumped out of the beam before I hit the SW:D button, but I did not realize at the time that the buff doesn't fade instantly |
| 21:38.13 | Corveroth | Hehe. |
| 21:38.14 | NeoTron | we failed on kalecgos with 9, so I bring 8 |
| 21:38.20 | NeoTron | etc |
| 21:38.26 | NivFreak | more dps to get it done faster? :P |
| 21:38.34 | Corveroth | Force them to try harder? |
| 21:38.37 | NeoTron | that and perhaps more focus from the healers in there |
| 21:38.42 | NivFreak | well |
| 21:38.47 | NivFreak | my healers are oom |
| 21:38.57 | NeoTron | your healers are fail |
| 21:39.01 | NeoTron | either that or your dps is fail |
| 21:39.07 | NeoTron | but the longer the fight lasts the more oom they get |
| 21:39.11 | NivFreak | well, dps should be higher for sure |
| 21:39.15 | NivFreak | but threat is still an issue |
| 21:39.17 | NeoTron | 10 healers is to many I'd say |
| 21:39.23 | NeoTron | then the tanks hav issues :P |
| 21:39.23 | Corveroth | Tell them that +healing is not the only stat, and that intellect/spirit/mp5 is a really cool stat. |
| 21:39.28 | NeoTron | do you use 2 tanks... or 3? |
| 21:39.38 | NivFreak | We've had a hard time striking a balance between solid threat and too many debuff stacks |
| 21:39.46 | NivFreak | NeoTron: 3 |
| 21:39.50 | NeoTron | pro til - 2 tanks is easier |
| 21:39.56 | NeoTron | easier to heal and more threat so easier to dps |
| 21:40.06 | NivFreak | yea, we've tried both ways |
| 21:40.10 | NivFreak | and aren't set on either yet |
| 21:40.13 | Corveroth | How is two tanks more threat? |
| 21:40.14 | Arrowmaster | human kalec always died really fast when we tried 2 |
| 21:40.24 | NivFreak | Corveroth: the 3rd doesn't take dmg |
| 21:40.28 | NivFreak | so they have rage issues |
| 21:40.29 | NeoTron | Corveroth: easier for two tanks to be close to eachother in threat than 3.. |
| 21:40.48 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: talking about bloodboil here, not kalecgos |
| 21:40.56 | NivFreak | and yes, 10 healers was too many |
| 21:41.00 | NeoTron | we d use three tanks on kalecgos and i've heard of ppl using 5 just to be sure |
| 21:41.00 | NivFreak | I was just trying something |
| 21:41.04 | Corveroth | Hadn't considered the damage aspect, but then, as a feral druid, I OT just fine anyways. |
| 21:41.11 | NeoTron | 9 healer, 2 tanks, rest dps |
| 21:41.15 | NivFreak | stacking healing so rarely works out in TBC |
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| 21:41.22 | Arrowmaster | well you keep mentioning different bosses, its hard to keep up |
| 21:41.29 | NivFreak | normally I run my group with 7-8 healers |
| 21:41.30 | NeoTron | 9 healers is kind of stacking healing :P |
| 21:41.32 | NivFreak | 3-4 tanks |
| 21:41.37 | NeoTron | 10-11 on twins even more so |
| 21:42.01 | Matrix110| | SW is retarted setup wise |
| 21:42.02 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: kalecgos was just an example where we had problems with tanks dying and what I did was to take a healer out |
| 21:42.16 | NeoTron | we're doing M'uru now with 7 healers, 3 tanks, 15 dps |
| 21:42.43 | NeoTron | recently changed strategy and this one seems to be the one we'll stick with |
| 21:42.45 | Arrowmaster | we just killed kalec for the first time on thursday with 9 healers, everytime we tired with less we always had healing problems |
| 21:42.45 | NivFreak | how many resto shaman? |
| 21:42.53 | Matrix110| | muru has less damage than Twins but you use 3-4 more healers @twins :D |
| 21:42.56 | Matrix110| | erm more |
| 21:43.15 | NivFreak | yea, I really hate that blizzard does that shit |
| 21:43.18 | Arrowmaster | i dont think weve ever used 9 healers before to kill a boss |
| 21:43.29 | Matrix110| | Arrowmaster 9 healers makes no sense though Oo |
| 21:43.34 | Matrix110| | 4 groups 2 healers in each group |
| 21:43.38 | Matrix110| | 1 MT healer 1 group healer |
| 21:43.49 | raegx | my guild runs 8 healers, 1 raid healer in each group, 1 tank healer in each group. 2 pallies, 2 coh priests, 2 shamans, 2 druids. pallies and priests on tanks, rest ffa |
| 21:43.55 | Arrowmaster | we dont do kalec like that |
| 21:43.59 | Matrix110| | if 1 mt cant keep the mt up for the max 10sec they can be alone he sucks |
| 21:44.05 | raegx | tanks in g1 + 2 healer that go w/ g2 |
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| 21:44.25 | Matrix110| | raegx we use the same tactic its the best :P |
| 21:44.27 | NivFreak | anyway, I love that we one shot RoS each week |
| 21:44.32 | NeoTron | Matrix110|: we use 2 healers sitting out for portal 5 with the last tank |
| 21:44.32 | NivFreak | and then have several wipes on bloodboil |
| 21:44.49 | raegx | we have run it w/ 7 healers too |
| 21:44.50 | NeoTron | 9 healers works just fine |
| 21:44.58 | Matrix110| | with weird tactics yes :P |
| 21:44.59 | raegx | 1 coh priest + 1 spriest in a group |
| 21:45.02 | Matrix110| | or different ones atleast |
| 21:45.14 | raegx | coh priests has to be ballin' tho |
| 21:45.22 | raegx | be able to tank heal and pick up the bits of raid healing the spriest can't provide |
| 21:45.30 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis btw |
| 21:45.30 | raegx | also it failes if that group is g4 portal |
| 21:45.38 | raegx | unless the priest is super money |
| 21:46.04 | Poul|Raider | I downloaded a package with BlizzardInterface\FrameXML stuff long ago to check out the blizzard ui, anyone know where i can download the newest version of it? maybe the beta version? |
| 21:46.36 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 21:46.36 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 21:46.43 | Poul|Raider | ahh |
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| 21:46.44 | nevcairiel | this will extract it from your game |
| 21:46.54 | nevcairiel | however, i dont think it works with beta (yet) |
| 21:46.59 | Poul|Raider | hmm oki |
| 21:47.00 | nevcairiel | wowcompares.com has beta, though |
| 21:47.08 | sedai| | hi |
| 21:47.10 | Poul|Raider | i will just read it there |
| 21:47.24 | sedai| | peepeepoopoocaca |
| 21:47.26 | Poul|Raider | patch on beta maybe ! |
| 21:47.28 | Poul|Raider | wooohooo |
| 21:47.36 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 21:47.53 | sedai| | im waiting for my invite |
| 21:47.55 | Pneumatus | 15 mins of lag first tho |
| 21:48.06 | sedai| | i should have regestered last year :( |
| 21:48.35 | sedai| | my beta card was packed away until last week ;_; |
| 21:48.51 | sedai| | wonder when ill get the invite |
| 21:48.53 | sedai| | sdgnjwkjawhahesa |
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| 21:53.06 | Poul|Raider | anyone know if, http://www.wowwiki.com/Visual_Studio , there are a plugin avalible for 2008 ? |
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| 21:55.05 | wowgamer88 | hey people |
| 21:55.08 | cladhaire | p3lim: looks great! |
| 21:56.14 | wowgamer88 | i wish to report a bug considering everquest addon, when you delete a char, and recreate a char with the same name, your old everquest log stay there |
| 21:56.48 | Shefki | wowgamer88: Not sure what addon that is but the addon has no way of knowing when you delete a character. |
| 21:57.13 | wowgamer88 | silly silly addons |
| 21:57.18 | wowgamer88 | addon* |
| 21:57.26 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 21:57.28 | Chompers | are you here |
| 21:58.18 | fewyn | So who else thinks this is stupid, some certain members of my guild want people to be overgeared for Karazhan to actually come to Karazhan |
| 21:58.31 | Chompers | badges are nice |
| 21:58.38 | Chompers | it helps people gear up faster |
| 21:58.39 | fewyn | i know |
| 21:58.51 | fewyn | But I want to gear up my new hunter >_> |
| 21:58.58 | Chompers | if you wanna take your alts, you have to give something back to the group |
| 21:59.09 | fewyn | I do |
| 21:59.11 | Chompers | alternate |
| 21:59.12 | fewyn | my T6 druid tank |
| 21:59.19 | fewyn | i take people all the time |
| 21:59.25 | Shefki | Take your alts to Kara with other alts IMHO. |
| 21:59.36 | Shefki | Nobody is obligated to drag your alt through content. |
| 21:59.37 | fewyn | but when *I* want to take my new hunter to Karazhan they get all pissy |
| 21:59.50 | fewyn | I take other peoples alts through karazhan though! |
| 22:00.00 | ulic | I'm of the opinion that every over geared kara group should take at least one or two people that are there to get geared up. |
| 22:00.35 | ulic | it doesn't teach them out to raid, but it does gear them up, and when it's alts they know what they are doing, they just don't have the gear yet. |
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| 22:01.04 | CIA-45 | Skinner: Bugfix for LoD Addons message |
| 22:01.04 | CIA-45 | - Commented out KOJ and myBindings in skins.xml |
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| 22:24.54 | CIA-45 | GnomeDust: |
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| 22:24.54 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
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| 22:24.56 | CIA-45 | - bucketevent unit auras and cooldowns |
| 22:24.58 | CIA-45 | - never emphasise cooldowns |
| 22:25.00 | CIA-45 | - properly remove fade option |
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| 22:25.53 | CIA-45 | GnomeDust: |
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| 22:46.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Beta people: servers are down for about 6 hours for a new patch to be deployed |
| 22:49.05 | ulic | :( Just more for me to download once I get my key |
| 22:49.17 | ulic | but I guess that means progress and progress is good. |
| 22:49.40 | Kirkburn|afk | :) |
| 22:50.07 | fewyn | heh |
| 22:50.28 | ulic | maybe it will mean another batch of keys to beat on the new changes, one can hope. |
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| 23:04.06 | CIA-45 | AllPlayed: |
| 23:04.06 | CIA-45 | - Fixed GetAddOnMetadata (bad cut and paste from Fubar_DominosFu) |
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| 23:10.00 | NivFreak | so, the latest theory is that lifebloom's bloom causes zero threat? |
| 23:10.07 | NivFreak | http://www.lumethemad.com/2008/07/27/lifebloom-and-threat-the-end-heal/ |
| 23:10.21 | kenlyric | wowinsider said it, believe it |
| 23:10.22 | NivFreak | or it always has been? |
| 23:11.12 | Arrowmaster | no it causes threat |
| 23:11.17 | NivFreak | kenlyric: while I generally distrust them |
| 23:11.23 | NivFreak | this looked like an attempt at testing it |
| 23:11.35 | Arrowmaster | its been tested |
| 23:11.38 | Arrowmaster | it causes threat |
| 23:11.46 | Arrowmaster | not full threat but still threat |
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| 23:15.58 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: did you read that test? |
| 23:16.04 | Arrowmaster | i am right now |
| 23:16.52 | Arrowmaster | seems flawed already though |
| 23:18.15 | Arrowmaster | cant get the videos to load |
| 23:19.48 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck did they switch from a warlock to a warrior |
| 23:20.45 | NivFreak | not sure |
| 23:20.50 | NivFreak | and wouldn |
| 23:20.51 | NivFreak | er |
| 23:20.57 | Arrowmaster | seems flawed to me |
| 23:21.01 | NivFreak | and wouldn't using taunt actually generate a small amount of static threat? |
| 23:21.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah taunt wasnt needed at all |
| 23:22.06 | Kuosi | taunt makes no thrwat |
| 23:22.18 | Kuosi | threat even |
| 23:22.27 | Arrowmaster | its still extra unneeded stuff that could flaw the test |
| 23:23.55 | NivFreak | I thought pretty much all spell casts produced a small static amount of threat (100?) |
| 23:24.04 | NivFreak | or is that only if they have a debuff? |
| 23:24.11 | Diao | debuffs only |
| 23:24.13 | Diao | and it's like 1 |
| 23:24.13 | Arrowmaster | depends |
| 23:24.19 | Arrowmaster | its more than 1 |
| 23:24.34 | Diao | well |
| 23:24.39 | Diao | demo shout gives practically no threat |
| 23:24.42 | Diao | unfortunately |
| 23:24.46 | Arrowmaster | because they nerfed it |
| 23:24.48 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:24.49 | Arrowmaster | on purpose |
| 23:24.49 | NivFreak | =/ |
| 23:24.50 | Diao | yeah |
| 23:24.56 | Diao | they should unnerf it |
| 23:25.01 | NivFreak | 51pt prot |
| 23:25.03 | NivFreak | is the unnerf |
| 23:25.04 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:25.06 | Diao | lol |
| 23:25.09 | NivFreak | I'm serious |
| 23:25.12 | Diao | shockwave is different entirely! |
| 23:25.15 | NivFreak | it is |
| 23:25.18 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13942.0 |
| 23:25.19 | NivFreak | but it's thier solution |
| 23:25.23 | NivFreak | to what they broke |
| 23:25.40 | Arrowmaster | ^^ where somebody tested and found lifebloom to be like 1/7th threat |
| 23:27.10 | Diao | so.. how broken are rogues going to be in wrath |
| 23:27.10 | Diao | lol |
| 23:27.27 | Diao | with ap modifier for evis/envenom going from 15% ap to 35% |
| 23:29.49 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: any news? |
| 23:30.16 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: alt-click doesn't work |
| 23:30.23 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: but I get things in my loot window again |
| 23:30.33 | Zhinjio | alt-right-click |
| 23:30.37 | Zhinjio | right? |
| 23:30.42 | NivFreak | erm |
| 23:30.45 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:30.47 | NivFreak | I think |
| 23:30.48 | NivFreak | one sec |
| 23:30.54 | Zhinjio | oh noes. |
| 23:30.57 | Zhinjio | grins. |
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| 23:31.11 | NivFreak | it's all have it ;P |
| 23:31.25 | NivFreak | and I saw nothing in the changelog for it :) |
| 23:32.08 | Zhinjio | does it work? |
| 23:32.36 | NivFreak | loading wow :P |
| 23:32.46 | Zhinjio | should work in inventory/bags and on links in chat |
| 23:32.50 | NivFreak | I tried both |
| 23:32.52 | NivFreak | but one sec |
| 23:32.53 | Zhinjio | crosses his fingers. |
| 23:32.55 | Zhinjio | k |
| 23:33.02 | Zhinjio | ~seen Ackis |
| 23:33.03 | purl | ackis is currently on #wowuidev (2d 5h 9m 6s) #wowace (2d 5h 9m 6s) #curseforge (2d 5h 9m 6s) #wowwiki (2d 5h 9m 6s). Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 2d 4h 18m 11s, last said: 'it doesn't throw errors :P'. |
| 23:33.21 | Zhinjio | maybe ackis' girlfriend locked him in the bedroom |
| 23:33.25 | Zhinjio | lucky him. |
| 23:33.59 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: no dice |
| 23:34.12 | Zhinjio | any errors? |
| 23:34.17 | NivFreak | nope |
| 23:34.19 | Zhinjio | I don't freaking get it. I tried both *last night* |
| 23:34.19 | NivFreak | got any debugging? |
| 23:34.28 | Zhinjio | and it worked like a champ |
| 23:34.34 | Zhinjio | yeah, turn on the DEBUG flag thinger |
| 23:34.36 | Zhinjio | in options |
| 23:34.43 | Zhinjio | it should mention LOOTI events |
| 23:35.11 | Cairenn | interrupt: First batch of names sent in for author keys: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=96876&postcount=63 /interrupt |
| 23:35.44 | Stanzilla | Zhinjio: there's someone looking for you |
| 23:35.47 | NivFreak | with debug on... nothing |
| 23:35.58 | Zhinjio | Stanzilla: hmm? |
| 23:36.03 | Stanzilla | [22:05:35] <@Kaelten> yep Zhinjio is either dead or ignoring me |
| 23:36.03 | Stanzilla | [22:05:38] <@Kaelten> :( |
| 23:36.04 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 23:36.07 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: and you're on 6.53? |
| 23:36.19 | NivFreak | yes |
| 23:36.23 | Zhinjio | cries. |
| 23:36.25 | NivFreak | I'm on a mac |
| 23:36.28 | NivFreak | any reason it would fail? |
| 23:36.32 | NivFreak | is there a keybind to set? |
| 23:37.02 | Zhinjio | nope. hmm. lemme do some digging. I'll see if I can find any reason |
| 23:37.06 | Zhinjio | oh, um... |
| 23:37.18 | Zhinjio | I wonder if there's a quick way to check if LibRockHook is loaded. |
| 23:37.31 | Zhinjio | do you run embedded or disembedded with yr libs? |
| 23:37.41 | NivFreak | disembbeded |
| 23:37.44 | NivFreak | but it's loaded |
| 23:37.53 | NivFreak | RockHook-1.0 |
| 23:37.58 | Zhinjio | uh huh. |
| 23:38.25 | Zhinjio | Thanks Stanzilla ... I'll ping him. |
| 23:39.28 | Primer | Anyone know what addon implements this little movable tab that other addons are putting their prefs buttons into? |
| 23:39.32 | Zhinjio | alright, well... it seems I've got some looking at the code to do. I don't get it. |
| 23:39.32 | NivFreak | ok, I'm unloading everything but SKG |
| 23:39.34 | NivFreak | just in case |
| 23:39.34 | Primer | I so want to get rid of it |
| 23:39.42 | NivFreak | maybe another keybind lib is conflicting? |
| 23:39.42 | NivFreak | heeh |
| 23:40.02 | NivFreak | nope |
| 23:40.05 | NivFreak | still no dice |
| 23:40.06 | Zhinjio | you'd think that would generate taint or some kind of error. |
| 23:40.53 | NivFreak | well, I can check taint log |
| 23:40.55 | NivFreak | but no messages |
| 23:41.00 | Zhinjio | regular looting works fine though, right? |
| 23:41.05 | NivFreak | yep |
| 23:41.17 | NivFreak | it was nice to be able to open bidding again :) |
| 23:41.19 | Zhinjio | k |
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| 23:41.31 | NivFreak | so, I can't remember if I asked this |
| 23:41.46 | NivFreak | is there a way to add items to the exclude list for when the window opens? |
| 23:41.51 | NivFreak | I like the auto-open on loot stuff |
| 23:41.55 | NivFreak | but I don't want it for gems etc |
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| 23:42.10 | Zhinjio | not currently, but I have a ticket to do so |
| 23:42.12 | Zhinjio | I think |
| 23:42.33 | NivFreak | and, can you auto-loot things to people via the APIs? (not for your addon, just in general) |
| 23:42.44 | Orionshock | NivFreak: yes |
| 23:42.52 | NivFreak | nice, I need to write an autolooter then |
| 23:43.02 | NivFreak | so I can send HoD, marks, greens to the right people quickly |
| 23:43.07 | Orionshock | if u have ML on u can send ppl greens + |
| 23:43.15 | NeoTron | Cairenn: *hopes for quick turnaround* |
| 23:43.21 | NivFreak | basically anything BoE, I like to assign to specific people |
| 23:43.23 | Orionshock | ^^ |
| 23:43.32 | Cairenn | NeoTron: me too, believe me |
| 23:43.48 | Cairenn | it was a nightmare last time, hopefully they've got all the bugs worked out of their system this time |
| 23:44.02 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 23:44.32 | Orionshock | ?? bugs in the system ... /no that's certainly un-blizzard like/ |
| 23:44.45 | NivFreak | I guess I better get an addon posted and sign up :P |
| 23:45.41 | NeoTron | Cairenn: did you determine automatically if the signup was for eu or us? |
| 23:45.53 | Cairenn | you have to choose when you sign up |
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| 23:46.37 | NeoTron | hmm maybe I did pick. I forgot about it being a selection. heh |
| 23:47.14 | NeoTron | will brb. |
| 23:47.26 | Orionshock | hehe... im just ecstatic that i got in .. or still in on the wowi give away |
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