| 00:01.40 | Kaelten | ok guys #wowace-upgrade chat is about to start, join if you are interested |
| 00:01.42 | Gnarfoz | Dashkal: erm, you're behind by some years there... ;p |
| 00:02.16 | Xuerian | EA is slurping upeverything :( |
| 00:02.31 | Xuerian | I just hope it turns out like one of those sci-fi movies where the bug eats a bomb, and it all splatters everywhere |
| 00:02.34 | Dashkal | Gnarfoz: I stopped paying attention to westwood years ago |
| 00:02.46 | Dashkal | Gnarfoz: the only game from them I really followed was Nox, and it went nowhere, sadly |
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| 00:11.26 | Killmore | since a few days (I didnt download new addons) my ace2 core memory usage is like at 5mibs doing nothing (running un-embed) |
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| 00:15.02 | Arrowmaster | Killmore: ignore it |
| 00:17.57 | Kirkburn|sleep | Did Omen just get mentioned by Penny Arcade?? |
| 00:18.06 | Antiarc | Ye |
| 00:18.07 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 00:18.11 | Kirkburn|sleep | Awesome :) |
| 00:18.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | Pleased? |
| 00:18.37 | Antiarc | hehe, yeah |
| 00:18.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | Pity they didn't link :P |
| 00:21.41 | binder | hmm |
| 00:21.53 | binder | think theere is a way to hack analyst to keep track of the stuff you pickpocket |
| 00:21.55 | binder | or at least the coins |
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| 00:26.23 | fewyn | ~lart Kaelten |
| 00:26.23 | purl | farts in Kaelten's general direction |
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| 00:35.01 | Gnarfoz | lol that's a new one |
| 00:35.54 | Primer | So I've been talking to people regarding Warlock PVP, gear, and spell penetration. It seems that many successful arena warlocks opt for the spell penetration gear |
| 00:36.29 | Primer | I've already got the Brutal spell penetration wand (upgrade from S2, a no-brainer) |
| 00:36.50 | Primer | but now I'm pondering getting the spell penetration off-hand, and then re-enchanting my cloak for +7 resists |
| 00:36.56 | Primer | thoughts? |
| 00:36.59 | Primer | I'm at 67 spell penetration right now |
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| 00:37.51 | Groktar | http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff226/szz123/WoWScrnShot_072108_173331.jpg |
| 00:37.59 | Groktar | i hope we farmed enough destro pots last night |
| 00:40.27 | Gnarfoz | if that's just for you and every caster has that many, then yes |
| 00:40.30 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 00:42.14 | CIA-45 | 03morgalm * r78881 10MorgDKP/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:42.14 | CIA-45 | MorgDKP: |
| 00:42.14 | CIA-45 | - WEB: export no longer exports known aliases if still in eqdkp DB |
| 00:42.14 | CIA-45 | - Fixed eqdkp+ single pool install not exporting properly (hopefully) |
| 00:42.14 | CIA-45 | - Fixed current raid members not updating if mod disabled when people join/leave |
| 00:43.01 | Diao | Primer: most people won't get over 85 resist total, so anything more than that is a complete waste |
| 00:43.09 | Diao | and that's assuming 70 SR buff + 15 SR cloak enchant |
| 00:43.11 | Primer | how not? |
| 00:43.20 | Primer | what about SP? |
| 00:43.23 | Diao | oh wait make that 95 |
| 00:43.27 | Diao | because undead have a 10 SR racial |
| 00:43.33 | NivFreak | vhaarr: is there a mobnotes gui at all? |
| 00:43.33 | Primer | 70 + 15 + 55 + 10 |
| 00:43.40 | Diao | 55? |
| 00:43.40 | Primer | 55 == Shadow protection |
| 00:43.43 | Diao | uh |
| 00:43.44 | Primer | from a priest |
| 00:43.45 | Diao | shadow prot is 70 |
| 00:43.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 00:43.50 | Diao | and it doesn't stack with SR aura |
| 00:43.57 | Gnarfoz | not with MotW, either |
| 00:44.01 | Diao | resist buffs don't stack at all |
| 00:44.02 | Primer | what about a SL/SL lock with fel hunter? |
| 00:44.05 | Primer | and talent? |
| 00:44.11 | Primer | +70 across the board |
| 00:44.17 | Diao | well yeah |
| 00:44.20 | Primer | +70 from SP |
| 00:44.22 | Diao | but you aren't normally going to fear the opposing lock |
| 00:44.27 | Diao | so that's kinda pointless :P |
| 00:44.35 | Primer | heh, I want my dots to work too |
| 00:44.41 | Diao | lock vs lock is mostly who lands more on the druid |
| 00:44.47 | Diao | or opposing healer, whatever |
| 00:44.53 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r78882 10SKG/ (17 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:44.53 | CIA-45 | SKG : |
| 00:44.53 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.53 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.53 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.53 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.05 | Diao | well |
| 00:45.15 | Diao | if you sacrifice that many stats for spellpen when it's a rare scenario |
| 00:45.21 | NivFreak | ~seen vhaarr |
| 00:45.27 | purl | vhaarr is currently on #wowace (17h 26m) #curseforge (17h 26m). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 14h 32m 4s, last said: 'aha, thanks'. |
| 00:45.27 | Diao | it's up to you |
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| 00:45.35 | Primer | well, I'm just wondering if I should get he grimoire or not |
| 00:45.39 | Diao | mathematically it'd be more beneficial to stack more stats/dmg once you hit the 85(95 for UD) cap against 8/9 classes :p |
| 00:46.05 | Primer | ok, so what about the cloak enchant? |
| 00:46.17 | Primer | is +7 to all worth it? |
| 00:46.28 | Diao | resist? |
| 00:46.30 | Primer | yeah |
| 00:46.31 | Diao | no |
| 00:46.40 | Diao | it's so minimal against other spell schools |
| 00:46.50 | Diao | ie, you aren't going to resist a CS because of it or anything |
| 00:46.56 | Primer | well, let's do some math |
| 00:47.24 | Primer | I'm at 67 and I have the spell penetration S4 wand, and I have +20 spell penetration enchant on my cloak |
| 00:47.35 | Primer | I have S3 stats off-hand |
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| 00:48.09 | Primer | If I got the spell penetration S4 off-hand (40 SP), that'd put me at 107 |
| 00:48.15 | Primer | hence, overkill |
| 00:48.19 | Diao | do any of the arena set pieces have penetration |
| 00:48.22 | Diao | or offspec pieces |
| 00:48.27 | Primer | no |
| 00:48.44 | Diao | hmm |
| 00:48.46 | Primer | all that leaves is the cloak to re-enchant |
| 00:49.05 | Diao | do you have s4 ring |
| 00:49.16 | Primer | no |
| 00:49.35 | Diao | that's an extra 14 spellpen over s2 iirc |
| 00:49.40 | Primer | really |
| 00:49.51 | Diao | nm it's only 4 |
| 00:49.55 | Primer | checks |
| 00:50.33 | Primer | actually, isn't there a helm enchant? |
| 00:50.45 | Diao | i was thinking about the exorcist seal rather |
| 00:50.46 | Diao | uh |
| 00:51.05 | Primer | maybe that's spell/hit |
| 00:51.08 | Primer | I don't recall |
| 00:51.11 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:51.13 | Diao | it's dmg/hit |
| 00:51.17 | Diao | since penetration is useless in pve |
| 00:51.22 | Primer | right |
| 00:51.24 | Diao | and most of the enchants are designed for pve |
| 00:51.36 | Primer | well, the SSE helm enchant is pvp |
| 00:51.39 | Primer | stam/resil |
| 00:51.42 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:51.43 | Diao | most :P |
| 00:51.51 | Primer | that's what I currently have |
| 00:52.01 | Primer | anyhow |
| 00:52.03 | Zhinjio | is there a mod that prevents fubar from dropping menus down during combat? |
| 00:52.04 | Primer | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Barfolomeu |
| 00:52.09 | Primer | I know my gems suck |
| 00:52.14 | Zhinjio | one of my guildies is complaining that that is currently happening to her |
| 00:52.16 | Primer | I've had some of that gear for a long time |
| 00:52.55 | Diao | hmm |
| 00:52.55 | Diao | yep |
| 00:53.06 | Diao | glick goes with 69 spellpen |
| 00:53.13 | Diao | as i expected |
| 00:53.26 | Primer | and I've yet to find a decent arena team |
| 00:53.35 | Diao | but he's using haste gear |
| 00:53.40 | Primer | seems that all the good druids are taken |
| 00:54.06 | Primer | honestly I don't see haste helping that much, but WTF do I know |
| 00:54.17 | Primer | especially since my first 3 dots are instacast |
| 00:54.44 | Diao | well |
| 00:54.48 | Diao | you do cast searing pain quite a bit |
| 00:54.51 | Diao | or should be |
| 00:54.54 | Primer | yes |
| 00:54.55 | Diao | once dots and such are up |
| 00:55.09 | Primer | unless you're doing more CC, in which case it's fear |
| 00:55.14 | Primer | so, there again |
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| 00:55.28 | Primer | I have the 4 set bonus that reduces the cast time of fear |
| 00:56.29 | ashb | hmmm there's no way i can use an Ace2 mixin (WhoLib) in an Ace3 addon is there? |
| 00:56.37 | Diao | he's got 158 spellhaste |
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| 00:56.45 | Diao | so like 10% reduction? |
| 00:57.06 | smoke_ | i got this new ace3 mod called dr tracker that tracks diminishing returns... but i'd like for the bars to grow up and they donot have an option for htis |
| 00:57.23 | smoke_ | what function would i look for to make a modification on how the bars grow? |
| 00:57.31 | Diao | ask Shadowed to put it in |
| 00:57.32 | Primer | so 1.35 second cast |
| 00:57.35 | Shadowed | what |
| 00:57.47 | Primer | for a 1.5 second spell |
| 00:57.48 | Shadowed | sure |
| 00:57.50 | Shadowed | it'll be in next push |
| 00:57.53 | Diao | plus the .2 sec reduction Primer |
| 00:57.59 | Primer | for fear |
| 00:58.01 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:58.07 | Diao | 1.15? |
| 00:58.09 | Primer | talk about spamming fear |
| 00:58.17 | Diao | or does the spellhaste modifier work on the modified cast time |
| 00:58.21 | Diao | which would make it 1.17 |
| 00:58.27 | Diao | either way |
| 00:58.32 | Diao | he wears a very specific set |
| 00:58.35 | Diao | designed to counter double melee |
| 00:58.38 | Primer | armory link? |
| 00:58.46 | Diao | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mannoroth&n=Emolifetaps |
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| 00:59.24 | Primer | ohh the pet trinket too |
| 00:59.38 | Primer | he has both the spell penetration offhand and wand |
| 00:59.52 | Primer | and both S4 rings |
| 01:00.28 | Primer | +120 armor on the cloak |
| 01:00.30 | Primer | interesting |
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| 01:00.50 | Diao | high armor |
| 01:00.54 | Diao | for anti-double melee :P |
| 01:00.56 | Diao | 360 extra |
| 01:01.00 | Diao | he's got 240 on his gloves |
| 01:01.33 | Gnarfoz | smoke_: DrTracker uses GTB for its bars, because it's by Shadowed, if I'm not terribly mistaken, so I don't think anyone here (except him ;P) would be likely to know ;) |
| 01:01.36 | Primer | spell damage is low though |
| 01:01.45 | Diao | yeah |
| 01:01.47 | Diao | a bit low |
| 01:02.07 | Diao | but since he primarily plays 3s i can understand |
| 01:02.12 | Diao | cause his job is to survive |
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| 01:02.59 | Primer | I'm hoping to make 3's my main team too |
| 01:03.12 | Primer | since it's more points than 2's and less chaotic than 5's |
| 01:03.18 | Diao | yeah i like 3s |
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| 01:03.47 | Primer | he's got soulfrost |
| 01:03.52 | Primer | I opt for +40 spell |
| 01:04.01 | Primer | for searing pain |
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| 01:04.41 | Primer | I have 1221 spell across the board, with fel armor. He's got 1054 fire, 1108 shadow, with fel armor. |
| 01:05.11 | Primer | and I have more HP, but only a tad |
| 01:05.22 | Diao | well |
| 01:05.28 | Diao | he sacrificed damage for quite a bit of haste |
| 01:05.33 | Primer | the only thing he really has going is spell haste |
| 01:05.34 | Primer | yeah |
| 01:05.39 | Primer | gotta wonder how effective that is |
| 01:05.41 | Diao | but it's a lot of haste |
| 01:06.07 | Primer | I mean, it could just be that his arena partners are really good |
| 01:06.12 | Primer | as well |
| 01:06.15 | Diao | well obviously they rae |
| 01:06.18 | Diao | it's hafu and rhaegyn |
| 01:06.18 | Diao | lol |
| 01:06.18 | Primer | indeed |
| 01:06.21 | Garoun|Loupana | I was always curious about one thing in regards to haste for mana users |
| 01:06.35 | Primer | I wonder if spell haste makes your dots tick faster |
| 01:06.38 | Primer | that'd be interesting |
| 01:06.45 | Primer | I know it lowers the GCD |
| 01:06.48 | Primer | so why not? |
| 01:06.58 | Diao | lol |
| 01:07.00 | Garoun|Loupana | you'd think people with a true, solid haste suit... would blow through mana worse then I do as a boomer |
| 01:07.00 | Primer | well, hrmm |
| 01:07.06 | Diao | dots ticking faster would be too cheap :P |
| 01:07.10 | Primer | have to consider that his pet is not out in this |
| 01:07.14 | Primer | in his armory page |
| 01:07.16 | Diao | oh |
| 01:07.19 | Diao | true |
| 01:07.22 | Primer | and having a pet accounts for a lot of spell damage |
| 01:08.17 | Lysithea | Garoun|Loupana idea is to get those ccs out faster and harder to interuppt |
| 01:08.27 | Lysithea | and besides, not like lock got a mana problem |
| 01:09.40 | Garoun|Loupana | oh I'm more curious about the pve aspects |
| 01:09.57 | Primer | so, going back to the original question |
| 01:10.01 | Garoun|Loupana | and for mages/booms/shaman(lot less on those one button wonders) |
| 01:10.09 | Primer | get the spell penetration offhand? then +120 armor to cloak? |
| 01:10.15 | Diao | looks like it |
| 01:10.19 | Diao | yeah |
| 01:10.24 | Primer | since I mostly get pwned by melee |
| 01:10.34 | Primer | I rarely lose to casters 1 on 1 |
| 01:12.54 | Primer | I've been playing with the WotLK talent calculator on mmo-champion |
| 01:13.09 | Primer | it seems that we'll be able to build a pvp spec that includes improved howl of terror |
| 01:13.20 | Diao | full affliction |
| 01:13.23 | Diao | seems sick for pvp |
| 01:13.25 | Primer | THAT will be the shit |
| 01:13.32 | Primer | yeah, and dark pact |
| 01:13.45 | Primer | since soul link only requires 10 points in demonology |
| 01:14.06 | Primer | I've always had a liking for affliction |
| 01:14.06 | Diao | and haunt |
| 01:14.11 | Diao | returning hp when your spell ends |
| 01:14.13 | Diao | 20% of damage done! |
| 01:14.15 | Primer | yeah, could go full affliction |
| 01:14.22 | steev | damn |
| 01:14.26 | steev | i just got a warning |
| 01:14.35 | Primer | "Stop masturbation so much"? |
| 01:14.42 | steev | no |
| 01:14.47 | steev | from blizzard |
| 01:14.52 | Primer | s/masturbation/masturbating/ |
| 01:15.06 | Primer | ⥠purl |
| 01:15.07 | steev | some huntard told my 63 pally to stay out of av |
| 01:15.42 | steev | so i told him if he didn't tell me how to play the game, or what to do, i wouldn't tell him to shut the fuck up |
| 01:15.42 | Primer | then you used profanity in your response? |
| 01:15.46 | steev | and he went off |
| 01:15.53 | steev | so i said, let me ask you a question |
| 01:16.08 | steev | have you ever wondered if your mom gave your dad a blowjob right before she kissed you goodnight? |
| 01:16.16 | steev | and he reported me |
| 01:16.19 | Primer | haha |
| 01:16.22 | Primer | worth it |
| 01:16.37 | Primer | that's a good one |
| 01:16.41 | Primer | takes notes |
| 01:17.13 | steev | apparently though |
| 01:17.16 | steev | they also warned him |
| 01:17.28 | Gnarfoz | obviously |
| 01:17.30 | steev | i screenshotted most of the conversation |
| 01:17.30 | Dark_Elf | yuck |
| 01:17.45 | Gnarfoz | screenshots aren't worth anything if you want to use them to complain, btw. |
| 01:17.56 | steev | complain? |
| 01:17.59 | steev | not at all |
| 01:18.03 | Xuerian | wow-bash |
| 01:18.04 | steev | his response cracked me up |
| 01:18.06 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 01:18.14 | Gnarfoz | the only thing they'll use are their own chat logs. which, obviously, they did, hence his warning xD |
| 01:18.23 | Dark_Elf | sounds like the meet out in parking lot fightn words to me |
| 01:18.44 | steev | http://clandestinecircle.guildlaunch.com/guild/library/gallery/17119/wowscrnshot_072008_142304734.jpg |
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| 01:20.43 | Arrowmaster | which section of wowace forums would probably be best to start a post in detailing how ive gotten git to handle saving of the WTF dir better |
| 01:21.21 | ckknight | General? |
| 01:21.23 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 01:21.23 | Gnarfoz | o_O 'random arcane knowledge', probably? :D |
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| 01:42.26 | ashb | ckknight: has anyone done a Carto addon like GuildPositions but for members of a custom channel? |
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| 01:48.03 | steev | woo, time for kara... again *sigh* |
| 01:50.59 | Gnarfoz | ashb: that'd require a custom communications channel for the position info to be exchanged |
| 01:51.11 | ashb | Gnarfoz: or lots of WHISPER |
| 01:51.26 | ashb | or the channel itself, and anyone without hte addon gets noise |
| 01:51.28 | Gnarfoz | lots and lots of, and thus probably not a good cohice. :p |
| 01:51.42 | Gnarfoz | that's an even worse choice :p |
| 01:51.47 | CIA-45 | 03laotseu * r78883 10/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:51.48 | CIA-45 | Fubar_DominosFu: initial commit |
| 01:51.48 | CIA-45 | - Fubar support for Tuller's Dominos |
| 01:51.48 | CIA-45 | - Based on Fubar_Bongos3 |
| 01:51.48 | CIA-45 | - Everything should be working but a lot of code cleanup is needed |
| 01:51.53 | ashb | depends on the channel |
| 01:51.54 | Gnarfoz | SendChatMessage shouldn't be used for addon commonication |
| 01:52.00 | Gnarfoz | *communication |
| 01:52.16 | Gnarfoz | aaaand I guess laotseu fucked that commit up ;D |
| 01:52.23 | ashb | you can't create custom addon channels can you? |
| 01:52.40 | Gnarfoz | don't think so, no |
| 01:52.56 | Gnarfoz | chat channels are not protected against things like drunkenness |
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| 01:53.08 | Gnarfoz | and I don't think binary data can be transmitted over it |
| 01:53.26 | Gnarfoz | (that is, random characters, even undisplayable ones) |
| 01:53.26 | ashb | hmm i wonder how Carbonite does it then when drunk |
| 01:53.37 | ashb | i wonder if it does |
| 01:53.42 | Gnarfoz | I have no clue what that is |
| 01:53.53 | ashb | another addon that tries to do everything |
| 01:54.06 | ashb | but it can display the posisition of random ppl in the same zone as you with the addon |
| 01:54.46 | Zidomo | If you like stalking random ppl :P |
| 01:54.55 | ashb | quite - i don't |
| 01:55.03 | ashb | but i'm faily sure it uses global channels |
| 01:55.45 | Zidomo | heh. for a useless feature |
| 01:56.31 | Yssaril | ashb: it might just use the wisper channel |
| 01:56.47 | ashb | it uses the channels for something |
| 01:56.52 | ashb | i tried it out at one point |
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| 01:57.03 | Xuerian | I'm going to guess it joins a carbonite global channel |
| 01:57.06 | ashb | and it fucked up and wouldn't let me change colors of global channels |
| 01:57.19 | ashb | cos it 'filtered' all of them out |
| 01:57.39 | ashb | Xuerian: yeah it does, its some random (to me)string of chars as the name |
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| 02:00.00 | CIA-45 | Acheron: |
| 02:00.00 | CIA-45 | - fixed bug where last report would hang around after clearing all reports |
| 02:00.01 | CIA-45 | - added additional validation when trying to output to a channel |
| 02:00.01 | CIA-45 | - actual combat log message string now visible in tooltip |
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| 02:03.18 | CIA-45 | 03arrowmaster * r78885 10/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): trunk: remove botched commit |
| 02:03.47 | Zidomo | pokes Xuerian to add Cart2 note importing to HandyNotes |
| 02:03.57 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: thanks, I was going to do that but you beat me to it ;p |
| 02:04.04 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: ^ |
| 02:04.58 | Xinhuan | hi what is it? |
| 02:05.16 | Arrowmaster | svn delete http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/DominosFu.lua http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/DominosFuLocale-enUS.lua http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_DominosFu.toc http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/embeds.xml http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/libs/ -m "trunk: remove botched commit" |
| 02:05.17 | Xuerian | Check Zidomo's ping |
| 02:05.20 | Arrowmaster | all typed by hand ftl |
| 02:05.25 | Xinhuan | oh hm |
| 02:05.29 | Xinhuan | maybe i'll write something next week |
| 02:05.48 | Xinhuan | but i am on page 8 of 30 pages of unread wowace threads (reading backwards) |
| 02:06.01 | Zidomo | confused by more than one X, sorry :P |
| 02:06.06 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yeah I was still on the 'find out what those 5 files are' part ;p |
| 02:06.18 | Arrowmaster | i just looked at google groups |
| 02:06.24 | Arrowmaster | since fisheye is fail |
| 02:06.48 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was waiting for fish to catch up |
| 02:06.49 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
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| 02:08.10 | Aiiane | so, getting back into lua and mixing up languages... does lua have an "in" function to determine whether a table has a given key defined? |
| 02:08.30 | Aiiane | or some other equivalent way of doing so, like seeing if type() is nil or not? |
| 02:08.35 | Arrowmaster | you just check if it exists |
| 02:09.15 | Arrowmaster | if not t[k] == nil then ... end would be better than using type() |
| 02:09.29 | Aiiane | k |
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| 02:09.48 | Arrowmaster | actually |
| 02:09.59 | Arrowmaster | if t[k] ~= nil then ... end |
| 02:10.05 | Aiiane | :P |
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| 02:10.52 | NivFreak | NeoTron: you around? |
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| 02:19.34 | Pyo | Is it possible to detect (either in post processing or realtime) what the actual damage modifier being provided by Curse of the Elements is (i.e. is it being given an extra 1/2/3% by Malediction)? |
| 02:19.47 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:19.56 | Arrowmaster | only if your the warlock that cast it |
| 02:20.14 | Pyo | Damn, thanks |
| 02:21.27 | Diao | hmm |
| 02:21.29 | Diao | does anyone play a shaman |
| 02:21.42 | Diao | someone needs to update yata to use buttonfacade |
| 02:21.45 | Diao | instead of cycircled |
| 02:22.53 | steev | *grmbl* |
| 02:23.00 | steev | our fucking main tank is pissing me off |
| 02:23.31 | Pyo | I take it I would track it for myself by knowing if I had the talent points, Arrowmaster? |
| 02:23.34 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: new release pushed to wowace. working on the other sites now. |
| 02:23.37 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:23.45 | Arrowmaster | since you can know if the debuff is yours |
| 02:23.50 | Pyo | yeah |
| 02:23.51 | Arrowmaster | and you can check your own talents |
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| 02:24.20 | Xuerian | Theoretically in a raid situation you could check the caster's talents |
| 02:24.54 | Xuerian | Supposing you monitor casts. |
| 02:30.36 | Poul|Raider | http://clanshop.dk/images/bfg_9800gtx_oc.jpg anyone who can tell me what hte jumper is for? |
| 02:31.00 | Xuerian | Which jumper? |
| 02:31.26 | Stanzilla | SLI? |
| 02:31.37 | Poul|Raider | doh wronge img |
| 02:31.38 | Poul|Raider | 2sec |
| 02:32.32 | Poul|Raider | http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r198/Frollkiller/Lian%20Li%20build/PNY%209800GTX/SS100694a.jpg |
| 02:32.36 | Poul|Raider | there |
| 02:32.41 | Poul|Raider | over the G |
| 02:33.52 | Poul|Raider | you know xuerian |
| 02:34.01 | Poul|Raider | because my googling gave me 0 |
| 02:34.08 | Poul|Raider | whats the name of such jumper to be exact |
| 02:34.55 | Xuerian | Mmkay, going to have to ask "which jumper?" again |
| 02:35.03 | Xuerian | Upper board? Socket on lower one? |
| 02:35.41 | Poul|Raider | might not be a jumper |
| 02:35.54 | Poul|Raider | the little plug over the G lover |
| 02:36.03 | Poul|Raider | left of the power plugs |
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| 02:38.45 | Xuerian | That looks almost like a pair of fan pins, but I doubt it's a jumper |
| 02:39.00 | Xuerian | That or it's a single-position on/off one |
| 02:39.15 | Xuerian | Would be hard to get a cap off of it though, with the plastic around it like a socket |
| 02:39.16 | Poul|Raider | we guessing its for sound etc |
| 02:39.28 | Xuerian | Would go for "jack" or "socket" |
| 02:39.28 | Gnarfoz | sound input to be able to output HDMI |
| 02:39.31 | Xuerian | less jumper. |
| 02:39.39 | Poul|Raider | ye my bad |
| 02:40.54 | Poul|Raider | is 75degree to hot for such grapich card? |
| 02:41.57 | Xuerian | 75c is a bit warm for anything, but the gtx's, especially OC'd, will likely always run warm |
| 02:43.16 | Shirik | lua> 75 * 5/9 + 32 |
| 02:43.16 | lua_bot | Shirik: 73.666666666667 |
| 02:43.20 | Shirik | uh |
| 02:43.24 | Shirik | lua> 75 * 9/5 + 32 |
| 02:43.24 | lua_bot | Shirik: 167 |
| 02:43.29 | Shirik | wow |
| 02:43.35 | Shirik | wtf did you do to it... |
| 02:44.28 | Xuerian | I'd check the reviews for it/google it+temp and see what the average is you come up with |
| 02:44.33 | Xuerian | or any issues people are having with it |
| 02:44.42 | Xuerian | If it's running too hot, get more air to it to start with |
| 02:45.42 | Gnarfoz | 75c at the chip level (i.e. built in sensors) is fine |
| 02:45.44 | Shirik | that does not mean leaving your computer case open.... |
| 02:46.03 | Xuerian | Shirik: Awww, but that's the fun way |
| 02:46.09 | Xuerian | You get to stick your fingers into the fan when you're bored! |
| 02:46.16 | Shirik | I love people that tell me they leave the case open to help the computer cool off |
| 02:46.17 | Gnarfoz | or rather, it's not endangering it, dunno what the usual temp for a 9800gtx are. |
| 02:46.22 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 02:46.27 | Shirik | I choose not to tell them that leaving the case open helps it get hotter |
| 02:46.47 | Gnarfoz | depending on positioning of the case, duh |
| 02:46.50 | Aiiane | on http://wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-3.0, should is be local db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("MyAddonDB") instead? |
| 02:46.54 | Aiiane | *should it |
| 02:47.05 | Shirik | Gnarfoz, part of the ATX specification is designed to optimize air flow. Opening the case disrupts that |
| 02:47.13 | Gnarfoz | I know well enough. |
| 02:47.19 | Arrowmaster | my computer is under a desk that kinda traps heat in, so i leave my case open and have a fan blowing on it |
| 02:47.23 | Shirik | maybe if you put it next to an air conditioner... |
| 02:47.25 | Poul|Raider | Xuerian, im trying to help a friend. Says the fan is only running at 9% |
| 02:47.28 | Xuerian | What shirik is saying, is that he's a stuffy guy, and he needs a special case to go out in public |
| 02:47.39 | Gnarfoz | what xuerian said :p |
| 02:48.19 | Shirik | switch(public) { case notStuffy: setLocation("Outside"); break; default: setLocation("Indoors"); lockDoor(); break;}; |
| 02:48.47 | Gnarfoz | put a computer case that's supposed to take in air on the lower front onto carpet with longer fibers and opening the case will certainly help... because at that point, the ATX concept has already failed ;D |
| 02:48.49 | Xuerian | He does have a point though, if you open the case without adding extra forced circulation, there is no forced draw of fresh air through the case |
| 02:49.15 | Xuerian | Then eddies of hot air build around components and it doesn't help anything |
| 02:49.17 | Shirik | ATX does have some flaws actually. BTX was good in theory, but nobody adopted it |
| 02:49.23 | Gnarfoz | obviously, yes. still, dissipating heat can also escape more easily, thus less heat to dissipate in the first place |
| 02:49.50 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Agreed, even mild circulation (and opening both sides of the case) fixes most of it |
| 02:50.16 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I should not engage in discussions of this, lest my memory of being in tech support re-emerge |
| 02:50.20 | Gnarfoz | cringes |
| 02:50.26 | Xuerian | I'd laugh |
| 02:50.31 | Xuerian | But I sympathize |
| 02:50.34 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: BTX was the weird one with the central thingy to pull air from the front of the case to the cpu right? |
| 02:50.42 | Shirik | ya |
| 02:50.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah it was stupid |
| 02:51.21 | Shirik | it worked though :P |
| 02:51.21 | Arrowmaster | restrictive on cpu placement though |
| 02:51.28 | Shirik | aye, that was one of the many reasons a lot of people didn't like it :) |
| 02:51.36 | Shirik | I haven't seen it recently; I think it's basically been droppe |
| 02:51.39 | Shirik | dropped* |
| 02:51.55 | Arrowmaster | only the oem's might be using it |
| 02:52.15 | Arrowmaster | they tend to use stuff like that so you cant just go and replace their stuff easyly |
| 02:52.33 | Xuerian | ugh |
| 02:52.34 | Xuerian | i hate that |
| 02:52.36 | Xuerian | I really do |
| 02:52.40 | Arrowmaster | me too |
| 02:52.44 | Xuerian | Keeps me from getting usable scrap parts |
| 02:52.48 | Gnarfoz | also it helped their system's stability because it wasn't as bad as ATX |
| 02:53.09 | Arrowmaster | well it really was a better design for OEM stuff |
| 02:53.09 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: What about the thin-system dells with a clamshell case? |
| 02:53.14 | Gnarfoz | I don't think thin-systems are BTX |
| 02:53.17 | Xuerian | where the IDE cables were bent so many times and so hard they snaped? |
| 02:53.25 | Gnarfoz | argh |
| 02:53.28 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 02:53.36 | Arrowmaster | but for building a custom system BTX was a failure |
| 02:53.43 | Shirik | Xuerian: lol |
| 02:53.49 | Gnarfoz | I think my case came with material to convert to BTX |
| 02:54.02 | Gnarfoz | i.e. 180degree turned versions of some parts |
| 02:54.18 | Gnarfoz | why is there no degree sign on US keyboard layouts, anyway? o_O |
| 02:54.31 | Arrowmaster | ive seen recent dells that had SATA cables snaped into a channel in the plastic mounting taking it down to a certain location on the mobo |
| 02:54.35 | Gnarfoz | I should probably add it to my layout |
| 02:54.58 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: others have it? |
| 02:55.10 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yes? oO |
| 02:55.13 | Arrowmaster | is it on us intl? |
| 02:55.14 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: FARR+Charlist |
| 02:55.15 | Xuerian | ftw |
| 02:55.21 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: what? ;D |
| 02:55.44 | Xuerian | Find And Run Robot + the charlist/charmap plugin |
| 02:55.47 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: no idea, US intl sucks ;D I'm using a modified US on a 105 key EU keyboard |
| 02:56.07 | Arrowmaster | i use the us intl no-dead-keys |
| 02:56.09 | Gnarfoz | I simply took MS's keyboard layout creator, loaded the US layout and added what I'm missing ^^ |
| 02:57.08 | Arrowmaster | ° |
| 02:57.10 | Arrowmaster | i have it |
| 02:57.23 | Arrowmaster | shift-altgr-; |
| 02:57.28 | Gnarfoz | german umlauts for one, à áâã (didn't bother to add those for 'blank', i.e. standalone, too) |
| 02:58.05 | Gnarfoz | hm, there was something about us-intl that I really disliked, or I would have switched to that |
| 02:58.14 | Arrowmaster | yes the dead keys |
| 02:58.17 | Arrowmaster | they are annoying |
| 02:58.18 | Gnarfoz | I guess I'll load it up in said keyboard layout creator to check |
| 02:59.06 | Gnarfoz | german layout has dead keys by default, so I'm used to them, really (although I've been using US layout for like forever now)... they're just annoying when they're the /only/ way to get to a certain character |
| 02:59.13 | Gnarfoz | like having to do `+space to get ` |
| 02:59.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats what i ment |
| 02:59.51 | Arrowmaster | mines not like that |
| 03:00.21 | Arrowmaster | have to be pressing altgr and the key to get it to be a deadkey |
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| 03:07.38 | Diao | altgr? |
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| 03:07.48 | Diao | oh |
| 03:07.50 | Diao | non-us keyboard |
| 03:07.58 | Arrowmaster | its on us keyboards too |
| 03:08.07 | Arrowmaster | just not the standard us one |
| 03:08.12 | Paene | Anyone know how long it takes the WoWI guys to send out beta keys usually? |
| 03:08.16 | Paene | er |
| 03:08.20 | Paene | to contact blizzard |
| 03:08.27 | Arrowmaster | they havent done it yet i dont think |
| 03:08.31 | Paene | ah ic |
| 03:08.31 | Diao | i use a chinese keyboard |
| 03:08.34 | Diao | but it doesn't have alt-gr |
| 03:08.37 | Diao | or whatever |
| 03:08.42 | Diao | :P |
| 03:09.03 | Arrowmaster | because you have enough other modifier keys |
| 03:09.09 | Aiiane | lol |
| 03:09.30 | Diao | actually it's basically the same layout as a 104-us |
| 03:09.33 | Paene | just threw Cryo2 up on WoWI so I could get a beta key :) Wanna get Cryo3 working for WotLK |
| 03:09.37 | Diao | except it's got chinese characters written on the keys :) |
| 03:09.38 | Arrowmaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Keyboard_layout_Chinese_Traditional.png |
| 03:10.09 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah i was thinking of japanese |
| 03:10.10 | Arrowmaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KB_Japanese.svg |
| 03:10.23 | Diao | ah |
| 03:10.38 | Arrowmaster | they have tiny space bars |
| 03:10.53 | Diao | yeah no kidding |
| 03:11.13 | Paene | crazy |
| 03:11.28 | Aiiane | seems like Alt-Gr is basically just right-alt? |
| 03:11.36 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 03:11.39 | Paene | chinese keyboards don't have a windows key? |
| 03:11.44 | Aiiane | just treated separately |
| 03:11.47 | Aiiane | instead of as a duplicate |
| 03:11.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
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| 03:13.52 | Diao | yeah |
| 03:13.59 | Diao | on us keyboards i never used the right windows key anyway |
| 03:14.02 | Diao | in fact, i don't use it period |
| 03:14.11 | Diao | i always just used ctrl-esc to open the start menu |
| 03:14.44 | Paene | I use the windows key for shortcuts for show desktop and lock computer |
| 03:14.58 | Paene | win+l for lock and win+d for show desktop |
| 03:15.27 | Diao | oh i never use show deskto |
| 03:15.29 | Diao | desktop* |
| 03:15.34 | Diao | cause there's nothing on my desktop that i need |
| 03:15.43 | Diao | i have shortcuts to everything i need |
| 03:15.56 | Diao | and ctrl-alt-del "l" works to lock my system ;p |
| 03:16.31 | Paene | meh, I keep folder shortcuts on the desktop |
| 03:16.45 | Paene | everything else is usually in quick launch |
| 03:16.47 | Diao | aj |
| 03:16.49 | Diao | ah |
| 03:16.49 | Arrowmaster | i dont even have anything on my desktop |
| 03:16.53 | Diao | all my shortcut folders |
| 03:16.55 | Diao | are in the start menu |
| 03:16.56 | Diao | so i go like |
| 03:17.10 | Arrowmaster | for example you cant even drag anything to my desktop, its just not possible |
| 03:17.13 | Diao | ctrl-esc |
| 03:17.13 | Paene | I hate opening the start menu |
| 03:17.21 | Diao | and then hit the hotkey for whichever thing i want |
| 03:18.13 | Diao | why's that :o |
| 03:18.29 | Paene | dunno, just annoys me...takes forever to get to anything |
| 03:18.32 | Diao | lol |
| 03:18.34 | Diao | not really |
| 03:18.40 | Diao | well |
| 03:18.44 | Paene | much easier for me to win+d and double click the folder |
| 03:18.44 | Diao | i have all my commonly used programs right there |
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| 03:19.04 | Diao | wow, foobar, irc, vent, firefox |
| 03:19.16 | Diao | and then folder shortcuts |
| 03:19.30 | Paene | I have too many commonly used programs lol |
| 03:19.34 | Diao | lol |
| 03:20.13 | Paene | wow, wc3, firefox, opera, pidgin, email, itunes... |
| 03:20.14 | Paene | vent |
| 03:20.27 | Paene | various gaming programs |
| 03:20.29 | Diao | firefox and opera? O_o |
| 03:20.35 | Paene | I prefer opera |
| 03:20.41 | Paene | but not all sites load properly |
| 03:20.44 | Diao | ah |
| 03:20.46 | Paene | plus I do web development |
| 03:22.11 | Xuerian | Launchy/FARR > desktop/startmenu :| |
| 03:24.05 | Diao | firefox does all the stuff FARR does D; |
| 03:24.09 | Diao | except for the desktop run thing |
| 03:24.26 | Diao | actually |
| 03:24.31 | Diao | you can even browse your desktop in firefox liol |
| 03:24.33 | Diao | lol* |
| 03:25.43 | Paene | I wish game developers would support linux better, then I wouldn't have to deal with the start menu ever :) |
| 03:25.58 | Diao | well |
| 03:26.16 | Diao | uh |
| 03:26.26 | Diao | isn't it more like linux needs to support the games better :P |
| 03:26.37 | Xuerian | Diao: Maybe, but I still use both. Awesomebar+FARR = moar awesomes |
| 03:26.43 | Diao | they don't really provide an API like directx for games |
| 03:27.00 | Paene | sure they do |
| 03:27.03 | Paene | it's called openGL |
| 03:27.08 | Paene | :) |
| 03:27.19 | Xuerian | DX is much more than oGL unfortunately |
| 03:27.26 | Xuerian | even if the display components of oGL are superior |
| 03:27.41 | Xuerian | Either way, it isn't supporting them that's the problem |
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| 03:27.48 | Xuerian | Games work just fine on linux without THAT much extra work |
| 03:27.54 | Paene | OpenGL would be better if M$ contributed to it instead of pushing DX |
| 03:27.55 | Xuerian | It's the profitability of supporting them |
| 03:28.14 | Xuerian | Paene: Or even instead of locking it out, which they pretty much did in vista by forcing oGL to run through a wrapper |
| 03:28.43 | Paene | didn't know they did that |
| 03:28.49 | Paene | then again I refuse to run Vista |
| 03:29.00 | Paene | not worth the DX10 features |
| 03:29.00 | Xuerian | oGL runs THROUGH DX on vista |
| 03:29.06 | Paene | wow |
| 03:29.07 | Paene | lame |
| 03:29.18 | Xuerian | Kinda, it also makes it so you can't use more recent versions, iirc |
| 03:29.51 | Paene | I'm suprised there's not a lawsuit over that |
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| 03:30.02 | Paene | it's a very monopolystic approach |
| 03:30.30 | Gnarfoz | ouch that word is hard to read :p |
| 03:30.31 | Xuerian | In this country, that's one of a monolithically huge pile of things I'm surprised that there isn't a lawsuit over |
| 03:30.35 | Gnarfoz | monopolistic ;p |
| 03:30.39 | Diao | lol |
| 03:30.50 | Diao | it's just proprietary technology |
| 03:30.51 | Diao | that's all |
| 03:30.54 | Paene | lol I'm a Comp Sci major, I leave English to my gf |
| 03:31.07 | Arrowmaster | not many are in a possition to sue on behave of opengl though |
| 03:31.52 | Xuerian | Exactly... |
| 03:32.26 | EvilJohn | well that's not exactly true |
| 03:32.35 | Gnarfoz | http://www.break.com/index/wrestlers-need-a-chair-and-fans-deliverb.html xD |
| 03:32.40 | EvilJohn | if you have an OpenGL ICD installed, it will use that, and NOT use the d3d translation layer |
| 03:32.49 | CIA-45 | 03laotseu * r78886 10Fubar_DominosFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:32.49 | CIA-45 | Fubar_DominosFu: initial commit |
| 03:32.49 | CIA-45 | - Fubar support for Tuller's Dominos |
| 03:32.49 | CIA-45 | - Based on Fubar_Bongos3 |
| 03:32.49 | CIA-45 | - Everything should be working but a lot of code cleanup is needed |
| 03:32.50 | EvilJohn | the default install though, is to run OpenGL through Direct3d |
| 03:32.59 | EvilJohn | which is an upgrade over the old software renderer |
| 03:33.01 | EvilJohn | not a big deal |
| 03:33.10 | Xuerian | EvilJohn: Ahh... Didn't know that. Thanks for settingn it straight |
| 03:33.26 | Paene | wait so it runs better through d3d? |
| 03:33.28 | EvilJohn | np |
| 03:33.39 | EvilJohn | it runs better through D3D than the software renderer |
| 03:33.47 | Paene | ah ok |
| 03:33.48 | EvilJohn | but not very well compared to the Installable Client Driver |
| 03:33.58 | Diao | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24059320-23109,00.html o_o |
| 03:34.26 | Paene | he's Batman |
| 03:34.28 | Paene | it's allowed |
| 03:35.51 | Paene | don't all laugh at once now... |
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| 03:36.17 | Diao | reminds me of the sean connery comment |
| 03:36.26 | Diao | about it being okay to hit women as long as it's with an open palm |
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| 03:37.10 | Paene | lol |
| 03:37.25 | Paene | so bad |
| 03:37.36 | Paene | if I tried to hit my gf, she'd kick my ass |
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| 03:38.07 | Diao | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0 found it |
| 03:38.08 | Diao | lol |
| 03:39.17 | Zyndrome | or not |
| 03:39.27 | HL | sdkjg |
| 03:40.42 | Xuerian | So sean connery XD |
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| 03:40.54 | CIA-45 | Fubar_DominosFu: |
| 03:40.54 | CIA-45 | - added external |
| 03:40.54 | CIA-45 | - added logtemplate |
| 03:40.54 | CIA-45 | - added eol and other such stuff |
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| 04:26.03 | Groktar | sooo last night we had 8 clean p2 transitions that i can count |
| 04:26.09 | Groktar | tonight we're still at zero after 3 hours |
| 04:26.09 | Groktar | >< |
| 04:27.28 | Xinhuan | on what? |
| 04:28.09 | Xinhuan | kael? muru? twins? illidan? ros? ;p |
| 04:28.17 | Aiiane | mu'ru i would assume |
| 04:28.26 | Aiiane | i think that's what Groktar was talking about before |
| 04:29.41 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't know ;p |
| 04:32.06 | Zyndrome | bloody summer , havn't had a raid for about a month now |
| 04:33.20 | CIA-45 | 03Corveroth * r78888 10DrumCoord/Core.lua: |
| 04:33.20 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
| 04:33.20 | CIA-45 | -Toggles do nothing unless you hook them up to something else in the code. Shocker, that. |
| 04:33.39 | Aiiane | lies, Corveroth |
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| 04:33.52 | Aiiane | unhooked toggles make ony deep breath more |
| 04:34.11 | Corveroth | Heh. |
| 04:34.38 | Zyndrome | Ze toggles, they do nothing! |
| 04:35.11 | Corveroth | I'll be stealing that line next time this comes up =P |
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| 04:35.52 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r78889 10Decursive/ (18 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-45 | WARNING: Important changes, may be unstable (version 2.2.0 beta 1) |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-45 | - Replaced SpecialEventAura with combatlog events |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-45 | - Better dispel result detection, should be able to detect resists (not tested but should work) |
| 04:35.53 | CIA-45 | - sound and text alert in case of missed and failed dispel |
| 04:35.55 | CIA-45 | - fix a nil error when players with pets were excluded |
| 04:36.16 | Groktar | ugh and raid over |
| 04:36.27 | Aiiane | is archarodim on irc under some other name? |
| 04:36.33 | Groktar | muru is 1,000x the guild killer vael was, imo |
| 04:36.48 | Aiiane | at least muru is 2nd to last boss in the game |
| 04:36.49 | Diao | except muru is at the end and not the beginning? :O |
| 04:36.51 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r78890 10Decursive/Sounds/ (. AfflictionAlert.wav FailedSpell.wav): |
| 04:36.51 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 04:36.51 | CIA-45 | - The new alert sounds |
| 04:36.58 | Aiiane | unlike vael, who was 2nd boss in the instance :P |
| 04:37.08 | Groktar | when he first came out he WAS the last boss, wasn't he? |
| 04:37.11 | Groktar | the gate didn't open? |
| 04:37.29 | Groktar | well, except for that one guild that got through it and killed everything in 1 night |
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| 04:39.11 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 04:41.57 | Groktar | when BWL first game out |
| 04:42.04 | Groktar | it was horribly untuned after vael |
| 04:42.10 | Groktar | so bad that blizzard kept the gate closed |
| 04:42.26 | Groktar | and you couldn't get to broodlord |
| 04:42.35 | Groktar | but there was one guild that somehow got through |
| 04:42.42 | Groktar | and destroyed everything in 1 night |
| 04:45.31 | Diao | what character are you on Groktar o_O |
| 04:47.07 | Gnarfoz | last I heard, the vael thing was a bug |
| 04:47.31 | Gnarfoz | which never even occured on EU servers, anyway? and you had to page GMs and they'd open it for you |
| 04:47.58 | Groktar | i'm on Flak |
| 04:48.08 | Diao | ah |
| 04:48.25 | Diao | is the warrior an alt? |
| 04:50.53 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r78891 10/branches/SKG/: |
| 04:50.53 | CIA-45 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 04:50.53 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.22 | Aiiane | hence... two of the horde guilds on my server just both got their 1st illidan kills tonight o.o |
| 04:52.16 | Aiiane | one guild got a glaive(MH), other didnt |
| 04:52.30 | Diao | grats to them? |
| 04:53.04 | Aiiane | just seems funny to me that this long after bt release both got it on the same night :) |
| 04:53.10 | Diao | ah |
| 04:53.18 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r78892 10SKG/: |
| 04:53.18 | CIA-45 | SKG : |
| 04:53.19 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.28 | NeoTron | hrm sucks. I have to reinstall WoW. Seems something I did modified a checksum in the WoW install. heh |
| 04:59.22 | Xuerian | smooth :p |
| 04:59.31 | Aiiane | repair.exe? |
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| 04:59.32 | Diao | how'd you manage that |
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| 04:59.35 | Diao | and yeah repair.exe :O |
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| 05:00.51 | NeoTron | mac |
| 05:00.59 | NeoTron | there is no such thing for some unknown reason |
| 05:01.19 | NeoTron | and apparently macos likes ot sometimes modify files within a bundle |
| 05:01.31 | NeoTron | going to keep a mirrored copy of WoW going forward. >:-) |
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| 05:01.54 | NeoTron | I must say though I love this mac thing. SO much better than windows. |
| 05:02.04 | NeoTron | I can actually use the system for more than WoW. imagine that |
| 05:02.25 | Lukian | OH THANK GOD |
| 05:02.34 | Lukian | Someone organised AtlasLoot sensibly! :D |
| 05:02.52 | Diao | atlasloot got changed? |
| 05:03.28 | Lukian | ty hegarol :) |
| 05:03.36 | Lukian | wherever ye may be |
| 05:03.50 | Lukian | yes, it's now "Classic Instances" and "BC Instances" |
| 05:03.53 | Diao | ah |
| 05:03.54 | Lukian | rather than by continent |
| 05:08.25 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: you failed to use windows for anything but wow? ~fail :p |
| 05:08.51 | Gnarfoz | that's like me using linux to do nothing else but getting it to run like I want xD |
| 05:10.13 | NeoTron | it was somewhat ironic |
| 05:10.21 | NeoTron | mainly I mean that MacOS is so much more like Linux |
| 05:10.36 | NeoTron | multiple workspaces, good terminal, works better |
| 05:10.42 | NeoTron | unix like keybindings |
| 05:10.51 | NeoTron | I'm a linux guy at heart |
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| 05:14.26 | CIA-45 | FeedMachine: |
| 05:14.26 | CIA-45 | - Goodbye, FrameLib! |
| 05:24.21 | durcyn | apple's disregard for proper keyboard navigation has always made me angry |
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| 05:40.02 | NeoTron | err? what do you mean? |
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| 05:44.39 | durcyn | it's better in osx, but as long as there are things you can only do with a mouse, then something's wrong. |
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| 05:56.23 | CIA-45 | AiiDLink: initial commit |
| 05:56.24 | CIA-45 | - CL interface for linking items, enchants, et cetera. |
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| 06:22.40 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: I accidentally left out LibRockHook from my zip. The new ve3rsion on wowace fixes that. |
| 06:22.48 | Zhinjio | Uploading fixed version to other sites now. |
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| 06:27.54 | cncfanatics | hello everyone |
| 06:28.13 | Aiiane | hey |
| 06:28.54 | Groktar | mmm dreaming glory 20g/stack |
| 06:28.58 | Groktar | bought 6 |
| 06:29.44 | CIA-45 | 03whitetooth * r78899 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 06:29.44 | CIA-45 | StatLogicLib: |
| 06:29.44 | CIA-45 | - 2.4.3: Parry Rating, Defense Rating, and Block Rating: Low-level players will now convert these ratings into their corresponding defensive stats at the same rate as level 34 players. |
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| 06:42.46 | Shinwei | hi guys |
| 06:43.06 | Shinwei | I'm having a problem with my Pitbull. The problem only happens on my warrior and none of my other characters, which is strange because they're all using the same profile. |
| 06:43.22 | Shinwei | I keep getting these LUA error messages: |
| 06:43.32 | krka | Shinwei: If you are referring to the programming language, you should write Lua instead of LUA |
| 06:43.33 | Shinwei | Interface\Pitbull_Aura\Update.lua:388: Attempt to index upvalue 'totalSelfBuffs' (a nil value) |
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| 06:43.57 | Shinwei | any idea what's causing this? |
| 06:44.23 | Shinwei | they stop when i disable my auras module, but come back when i re-enable the auras module. this is unfortunate because i like my auras module... |
| 06:44.33 | Shinwei | auras work fine on all my other characters though |
| 06:45.24 | cncfanatics | Shinwei: reset the savedvars for that module / for ur whole pitbull |
| 06:45.49 | charon | and file a ticket on http://jira.wowace.com/browse/PB ... the relevant people are probably asleep right now |
| 06:46.06 | Shinwei | what do you mean by reset? re-write my pitbull directory with the files from files.wowace.com ? |
| 06:46.29 | cncfanatics | no |
| 06:46.53 | cncfanatics | in the following folder: WTF/Account/SavedVariables/ |
| 06:46.57 | cncfanatics | there should be several lua files |
| 06:46.58 | Shinwei | oh i got you now |
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| 06:47.08 | cncfanatics | a few of them will have pitbull in their name |
| 06:47.09 | cncfanatics | delete those |
| 06:47.12 | cncfanatics | and it'll reset pitbull |
| 06:47.16 | cncfanatics | u'll have to reconfigure it ofc |
| 06:49.19 | Gnarfoz | never reccommend to delete stuff. move it instead. |
| 06:50.15 | Shinwei | mmm that didn't work |
| 06:50.31 | Shinwei | pitblul back to default settings, still getting error messages |
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| 06:53.01 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r78900 10SKG/ (SKG.toc embeds.xml): |
| 06:53.01 | CIA-45 | SKG : |
| 06:53.01 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.01 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.09 | Aiiane | are there any addons you run only on your warrior, Shinwei? |
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| 06:54.06 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r78901 10/branches/SKG/embeds.xml: |
| 06:54.06 | CIA-45 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 06:54.06 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.59 | Arrowmaster | Shinwei: using latest version from wowace right? |
| 06:56.49 | Shinwei | yes i am using latest possible version |
| 06:57.00 | Shinwei | i don't run any addons on my warrior that i do not run on other characters |
| 06:57.05 | Shinwei | i use the same UI for all my chars |
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| 06:58.59 | cncfanatics | and it only crashes on ur warrior ? |
| 06:59.06 | Shinwei | yes that is correct |
| 06:59.08 | cncfanatics | please try to disable all ur addons except pitbull and its modules |
| 06:59.15 | cncfanatics | and see if the error still occures |
| 06:59.23 | Shinwei | alright let me do that |
| 06:59.26 | cncfanatics | if so, you have a conflict with an addon + warrior class + pitbull |
| 07:02.29 | Shinwei | ok i just did that |
| 07:02.32 | Shinwei | still happening |
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| 07:03.04 | cncfanatics | hmmm, then auras has a warrior bug |
| 07:03.09 | cncfanatics | anoy ckknight with it :) |
| 07:03.56 | Shinwei | i don't even know how it started |
| 07:04.06 | Shinwei | i dont think i updated my pitbull the day it began happening |
| 07:04.11 | Shinwei | it just started doing it one day |
| 07:04.16 | Shinwei | out of nowhere |
| 07:04.38 | cncfanatics | code errors never ever start out of nowhere |
| 07:04.55 | Shinwei | yeah that's what I believe too |
| 07:05.02 | Aiiane | or at least we really hope they dont |
| 07:05.42 | Aiiane | because if they do then we've managed to create a nondeterministic computer |
| 07:07.41 | Shinwei | okay another question |
| 07:07.48 | Shinwei | in my interface\AddOns folder |
| 07:08.01 | Shinwei | is it normal to have both a Pitbull folder and also a separate folder for each module |
| 07:08.11 | Shinwei | like PitBull_Aura |
| 07:08.23 | Shinwei | PitBull_Banzai |
| 07:08.37 | Shinwei | even though aura, banzai, etc. folders already exist within the folder just named Pitbull? |
| 07:09.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:09.25 | Arrowmaster | if they exist in both then something is wrong |
| 07:09.30 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 07:09.33 | cncfanatics | ur addon updater fucked up |
| 07:09.45 | Shinwei | alright |
| 07:10.06 | Shinwei | i'm gonna try removing all these other folders and replacing the primary pitbull folder with the one i got from files.wowace.com |
| 07:11.33 | Shinwei | ooh that fixed it |
| 07:13.01 | Shinwei | thanks guys |
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| 07:19.23 | Yssaril | is there anyway to hook when someone clicks on a link? |
| 07:19.48 | Elkano | in chat? sure |
| 07:20.06 | Orionshock | SetItemRef() ? |
| 07:20.28 | Elkano | eg SpamSentry uses this to add own link types |
| 07:21.01 | Arrowmaster | it does? |
| 07:21.21 | Elkano | yeah |
| 07:21.39 | cncfanatics | the main func will prolly ignore invalid link types |
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| 07:21.43 | Elkano | so you can have a blocked message shown |
| 07:21.44 | cncfanatics | so if ur post/prehook handles them |
| 07:21.47 | cncfanatics | you can add all you wantr |
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| 07:21.56 | Orionshock | did someone zhTW translator break ClockFu? |
| 07:22.06 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: would you doubt it? |
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| 07:22.22 | Yssaril | thanks :) |
| 07:22.47 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck does wotlk need 7 gigs |
| 07:23.06 | Arrowmaster | having a bitch of a time moving stuff around and freeing up space |
| 07:23.08 | cncfanatics | because its huge xD |
| 07:23.21 | cncfanatics | and prolly because they didn't bother to compress much for beta |
| 07:23.26 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 07:23.27 | Elkano | because it's no PTR install? |
| 07:23.41 | Elkano | or is it? |
| 07:24.18 | cncfanatics | I'd say it is |
| 07:24.25 | cncfanatics | you need a valid tbc account for it |
| 07:24.48 | nevcairiel | its no PTR install, its a full copy of the data |
| 07:24.51 | nevcairiel | like tbc beta was |
| 07:25.10 | Elkano | ok, considering that legacy + BC has about 8gb data... |
| 07:25.47 | Arrowmaster | oh damn it does |
| 07:25.54 | vithos | the installer is way smaller, but it probably copies your standard install |
| 07:26.00 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think wow was upto that large already |
| 07:26.08 | nevcairiel | yes it does vithos |
| 07:26.19 | Arrowmaster | Data dir alone is 10.4GB |
| 07:26.41 | Arrowmaster | wait then why does the beta only require 7? |
| 07:26.42 | Elkano | tells me I should free some space, too... |
| 07:26.57 | CIA-45 | 03orionshock * r78902 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFuLocale-zhTW.lua: |
| 07:26.57 | CIA-45 | FuBar_ClockFu: fix typo in zhTW translation. |
| 07:26.57 | CIA-45 | ~lart ottokang |
| 07:26.57 | purl | beats ottokang over the head with a microkernel |
| 07:26.57 | nevcairiel | mine is 8.8 and includes an additional language pack |
| 07:27.08 | nevcairiel | reinstalling from tiem to time frees up space |
| 07:27.19 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah thats right ive got language packs i cant even use |
| 07:27.20 | vithos | Arrowmaster: the requirement it claims is incorrect. i cleared enough to get past the check but then ran out of space anyway before the install finished |
| 07:27.22 | nevcairiel | due to the way the mpq packing on patches is handles |
| 07:28.27 | Arrowmaster | 7.92GB after deleting the language packs |
| 07:28.48 | Arrowmaster | if reinstalling really does free up space then they should offer a way to repack it |
| 07:29.35 | nevcairiel | its probably the least of their concerns if you use 1gb more hdd |
| 07:29.48 | Arrowmaster | diskcapacity[C:\ (13.03GB Free, 149.04GB Total), F:\ (1.79GB Free, 232.88GB Total), G:\ (2.75GB Free, 232.88GB Total), L:\ (1.95GB Free, 465.76GB Total), Total (19.53GB Free, 1.06TB Total)] |
| 07:29.51 | Arrowmaster | its of my concern |
| 07:30.02 | NivFreak | wtb beta key |
| 07:30.04 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 07:30.14 | nevcairiel | its not their problem if you have 2 TB full of pornz, though |
| 07:30.14 | Arrowmaster | and i havent even installed the beta client yet |
| 07:30.29 | NivFreak | I have the client installed |
| 07:30.30 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: what do you store in all those bits ? |
| 07:30.49 | Arrowmaster | right now due to other drives dying.... mostly anime |
| 07:31.05 | Arrowmaster | a year ago it was mostly tv shows i think |
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| 07:31.22 | cncfanatics | <3 anime |
| 07:31.27 | cncfanatics | I used to have lots of it too |
| 07:31.27 | nevcairiel | I just started to delete stuff i already saw and i would never watch again, anyway |
| 07:31.37 | cncfanatics | until my hd's crashed |
| 07:31.40 | Arrowmaster | i rewatch a lot |
| 07:31.52 | Arrowmaster | from bordom |
| 07:32.03 | NivFreak | wow |
| 07:32.12 | NivFreak | people paying $600 for beta keys on ebay |
| 07:32.14 | NivFreak | that's nuts |
| 07:32.16 | Arrowmaster | and i have an archiver personality |
| 07:32.21 | Arrowmaster | i dont like to delete stuff |
| 07:32.24 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: they are ? :o |
| 07:32.27 | NivFreak | yea.. |
| 07:32.34 | cncfanatics | rofl at me getting one and not selling it :D |
| 07:32.37 | NivFreak | I'd like to get in it, but not that bad ;P |
| 07:32.54 | NivFreak | hoping to pick one up at gencon |
| 07:33.02 | NivFreak | next month |
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| 07:51.02 | Orionshock | ckknight: wow on cart3, just updated & that is a creepy amount of detail that it gives w/ guild positions turned on |
| 07:52.04 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: did you also get an automated response from wowmatrix |
| 07:52.11 | cncfanatics | I actualy got *your* response |
| 07:52.14 | cncfanatics | it mentioned guild craft :p |
| 07:52.20 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: lol |
| 07:52.25 | Orionshock | actualy i did, they removed it |
| 07:52.46 | cncfanatics | they didn't for fb |
| 07:52.46 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 07:52.48 | Orionshock | didn't even have to threaten legal action, just call them theives. worked quite well |
| 07:52.48 | cncfanatics | idiots |
| 07:52.59 | cncfanatics | do I seriously have to threaten them to send a lawyer |
| 07:57.42 | CIA-45 | 03scorpion * r78904 10Parrot/Locales/ParrotLocale-zhTW.lua: |
| 07:57.42 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 07:57.42 | CIA-45 | - zhTW readjust |
| 07:59.01 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: tell them u don't want to be part of them stealing bandwidth from other providers and that you don't give a dam about their services. |
| 07:59.18 | cncfanatics | I'm bad at threatening :( |
| 08:00.02 | Orionshock | "While i appreciate the re assureances that where given by <> there at wowmatrix. Quite Frankly i don't give a dam if you host it on your servers or steal bandwidth from another site to suite your program. I do not appreciate my addon being used in such a way. Remove the addon from the listing, i will not be associated in any way with thieves that steal bandwidth and as such add revenue from... |
| 08:00.04 | Orionshock | ...other sites for their own purposes" |
| 08:00.08 | Orionshock | try that, worked for me :D |
| 08:01.43 | cncfanatics | ... if it is not removed promptly I fear I'll have to send you my lawyer |
| 08:02.14 | Orionshock | so they mention'ed my addon in an email to you? |
| 08:02.32 | cncfanatics | let me pastey the email I got |
| 08:02.39 | cncfanatics | they just sent me your response and didn't even change the quoted text |
| 08:02.46 | Orionshock | lol |
| 08:04.18 | cncfanatics | http://mibbit.com/pb/jcvduR |
| 08:04.32 | cncfanatics | check the quoted text at the bottom |
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| 08:05.20 | Orionshock | lol that was my first msg to them |
| 08:05.25 | Orionshock | those cheep asses |
| 08:05.34 | cncfanatics | well |
| 08:05.38 | cncfanatics | they send me their exact reply to you |
| 08:05.42 | cncfanatics | I'll send them your exact reply to them :p |
| 08:05.54 | Orionshock | worked for me, and them, might as well :D |
| 08:07.15 | cncfanatics | http://mibbit.com/pb/b3SNfx |
| 08:07.47 | Orionshock | cnc... dude |
| 08:07.56 | Orionshock | <> == insert person that emailed you here |
| 08:08.04 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 08:08.05 | Orionshock | :P |
| 08:08.20 | CIA-45 | 03nikkodemus * r78905 10BuffEnough/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:08.20 | CIA-45 | BuffEnough: |
| 08:08.20 | CIA-45 | - remove .tooltiptext, since it's going away from LBD anyway. Use custom field to do dynamic refresh of BuffEnough display tooltip when showing |
| 08:08.20 | CIA-45 | - added option to suspend checking buffs while in combat |
| 08:09.21 | cncfanatics | WTB someone sueing wowmatrix and getting them to have to stop existing |
| 08:09.44 | nevcairiel | I doubt you even could sue them |
| 08:09.54 | cncfanatics | yea, sadly |
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| 08:10.09 | nevcairiel | Max you get is them being forced to remove your addon |
| 08:10.24 | cncfanatics | wish every author would do that |
| 08:10.28 | cncfanatics | they would have zero addons to host :p |
| 08:10.34 | Aiiane | well |
| 08:10.47 | Aiiane | if Omen, oRA, BigWigs, and DBM did |
| 08:11.10 | Aiiane | they'd probably drop in popularity plenty |
| 08:11.16 | winkiller | you have to say that the index page design is catchy |
| 08:11.20 | Orionshock | now if they contacted the 4 sites they leach from and share their ad $$ by statistical use, then i could see people being ok with it... maybe |
| 08:11.22 | [Ammo] | oRA BigWigs is already gone :p |
| 08:11.28 | [Ammo] | at least from their page |
| 08:11.46 | cncfanatics | [Ammo]: tbh, should check the actual program |
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| 08:16.54 | Nechckn | Ha... that sucks and all, but is so very wowmatrix-y =) |
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| 08:17.27 | mitch0 | erm, what's the deal with this wowmatrix thing? |
| 08:17.28 | Nechckn | "we don't even use our own servers- we use everyone elses' servers and their bandwidth!" Tee hee |
| 08:17.42 | Zhinjio | Nechckn: new version of SKG is pushed out |
| 08:17.46 | SunTiger | its about making money over the bandwith of others. |
| 08:17.49 | Zhinjio | its up everywhere except curse |
| 08:17.59 | Nechckn | Oh cool.. I'll look Zhinjio |
| 08:18.02 | Zhinjio | wiki updated |
| 08:18.04 | Zhinjio | blah blah blah |
| 08:18.09 | mitch0 | sun: but they provide a single point of download for teh masses? |
| 08:18.23 | Nechckn | no.. they don't provide anything, really |
| 08:18.27 | SunTiger | but they deny us the advertisements that keep us alive. |
| 08:18.28 | Nechckn | that's the whole point |
| 08:19.28 | Lukian | so do all the other addon updaters..? |
| 08:20.22 | cncfanatics | no |
| 08:20.30 | cncfanatics | WAU displays advertisements from wowace |
| 08:20.31 | Aiiane | Most of the other addon updaters don't put their own ads in, at the very least |
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| 08:21.07 | Aiiane | they're either entirely ad-free (which still hurts, but at least it isnt profiting off someone else's work) or display WowAce ads |
| 08:21.09 | Orionshock | tbh that's the main reason why we crucify wowmatrix and not WUU |
| 08:21.16 | Lukian | wowmatrix's has it's own ads? I was unaware :/ |
| 08:21.18 | Aiiane | JWU/WUU don't run their own ads |
| 08:21.21 | Lukian | that is rather cruel |
| 08:21.21 | Orionshock | WUU dosn't do ads at all just leaches bandwidth |
| 08:21.34 | Orionshock | JWU+WUU |
| 08:23.23 | Nechckn | I just cannot believe they sent you the same reply- including the original text.. that is ultra cheap |
| 08:23.52 | Nechckn | I don't think many would even mind them if they just removed addons that the authors want removed |
| 08:24.36 | Nechckn | although most are open source and "open" licensed, it's still the decent thing to do- and would save them alot of the hate |
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| 08:26.14 | cncfanatics | Nechckn: it doesn't bother me they distribute my addon |
| 08:26.21 | cncfanatics | it bothers me they leech bandwidth and display their fucking own adds |
| 08:26.30 | cncfanatics | at least display no adds or the ones from the website |
| 08:26.31 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 08:26.41 | Nechckn | I understand that, believe me... |
| 08:26.48 | mitch0 | I guess you gues have problems with google, too, then... |
| 08:27.01 | cncfanatics | why would I ? |
| 08:27.09 | cncfanatics | google leeches tons of bandwidth since when ? |
| 08:27.39 | Nechckn | it is really not the same mitch0 |
| 08:27.48 | Aiiane | mitch0 |
| 08:27.51 | Aiiane | what google does |
| 08:27.55 | Orionshock | google leaching bandwidth?? |
| 08:28.00 | Aiiane | would be like if wowmatrix showed you addons that needed updating |
| 08:28.09 | Aiiane | and then required you to visit the site hosting them to DL |
| 08:28.14 | Aiiane | but that's not what it does |
| 08:28.15 | mitch0 | well, yeah, the bandwidth issue is understandable, but I feel you won't be happy even if they (wowmatrix) cached the latest versions and didn't eat up the bw of the original sites |
| 08:28.24 | cncfanatics | I wouldn't mind if they did |
| 08:28.31 | Aiiane | actually... if they cached them theirselves |
| 08:28.32 | cncfanatics | heck, it would be a mirror and would save wowace bandwidth |
| 08:28.39 | Aiiane | it probably wouldnt matter to most people |
| 08:28.41 | Aiiane | but they don't |
| 08:28.47 | cncfanatics | they won't do that though, would make them lose money |
| 08:28.51 | Aiiane | nods |
| 08:29.02 | mitch0 | cnc: has anyone asked them to? |
| 08:29.08 | Arrowmaster | i thought they did cache the latest |
| 08:29.17 | Aiiane | not the actual file, Arrowmaster |
| 08:29.23 | Nechckn | not according to their letter that they just sent |
| 08:29.39 | Aiiane | they might cache version indices for the various sites |
| 08:29.53 | Arrowmaster | oh so they cache the link to the latest file? and thats how they manage to leech bandwidth while still providing out of date versions? |
| 08:30.16 | Aiiane | prolly |
| 08:30.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah they should just die |
| 08:30.39 | Arrowmaster | get antiarc to send a letter too |
| 08:30.42 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster |
| 08:30.50 | cncfanatics | http://mibbit.com/pb/jbWPAe |
| 08:30.54 | cncfanatics | from the email they sent me |
| 08:31.01 | cncfanatics | clear enough ? |
| 08:31.02 | mitch0 | erm, why don't you block them out from wowace? :) |
| 08:31.14 | cncfanatics | because its the user downloading the addon from its computer |
| 08:31.26 | mitch0 | but they wouldn't be able to build their indexes |
| 08:31.42 | cncfanatics | if we block their IP they'd use another |
| 08:31.43 | Arrowmaster | find the useragent they use |
| 08:31.43 | Aiiane | not worth the time to play cat-and-mouse |
| 08:31.49 | cncfanatics | if we block their useragent they'd use another |
| 08:31.56 | cncfanatics | cat&mouse indeed |
| 08:31.58 | Aiiane | especially since wowace repo is changing in a month or two anyways |
| 08:32.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah but if you do it then everybody stops using it |
| 08:32.14 | Arrowmaster | even if they change it |
| 08:32.18 | Arrowmaster | the damage is already done |
| 08:32.19 | mitch0 | blocking their IP should be bad enough for them. it's not _that_ easy to alway hop providers... |
| 08:32.19 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: doubt it |
| 08:32.22 | cncfanatics | the users wouldn't even notice |
| 08:32.46 | Arrowmaster | well if it stops working they would |
| 08:32.58 | cncfanatics | mitch0: tbh, the guy could run his crawler at home |
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| 08:33.06 | cncfanatics | with a dynamic IP |
| 08:33.11 | Aiiane | indices aren't hard to crawl |
| 08:33.26 | Aiiane | heck, one is served to WAU on demand, in a few seconds |
| 08:33.47 | mitch0 | well, tough luck then |
| 08:33.57 | cncfanatics | they're all in an xml file |
| 08:34.01 | cncfanatics | for convenience of updaters |
| 08:34.05 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: how come AddonLoader is still on their site |
| 08:34.09 | cncfanatics | its just a matter of dl'ing that file & parsing it |
| 08:36.09 | Arrowmaster | where did you email to get your addon removed? |
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| 08:36.15 | Arrowmaster | seems they have one of mine now |
| 08:36.16 | cncfanatics | there is no email |
| 08:36.16 | CIA-45 | 03cwdg * r78906 10Decursive/localization.cn.lua: |
| 08:36.16 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 08:36.16 | CIA-45 | - zhCN Update... |
| 08:36.19 | Arrowmaster | and it needs to go |
| 08:36.21 | cncfanatics | its a contact us form |
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| 08:37.18 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: I contacted them and told them to remove the references to my addons from their site |
| 08:37.25 | [Ammo] | took me 2 times |
| 08:37.27 | Yssaril | someone should figure out how to inject "Addons" into their database just load them up with false addons and people will stop using them since its so damn many :) |
| 08:37.44 | mitch0 | [ammo]: vio is still there |
| 08:37.44 | cncfanatics | Yssaril: can't do that without infecting other updaters too |
| 08:37.46 | Arrowmaster | yeah i saw BigWigs wasnt listed but LittleWigs and BabyWigs are |
| 08:38.05 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: might be possible |
| 08:38.09 | [Ammo] | mitch0: I know |
| 08:38.15 | Arrowmaster | but it resorts to the cat and mouse game |
| 08:38.19 | [Ammo] | most of them removed |
| 08:38.25 | [Ammo] | they had Ace3 up there as well |
| 08:38.32 | [Ammo] | while that's against the license :p |
| 08:38.38 | Arrowmaster | by identifying them when they request the feed |
| 08:39.12 | Arrowmaster | we really should start a crusade against wowmatrix |
| 08:39.24 | mitch0 | [ammo]: what's in the ace3 licence that prevents that? :) |
| 08:39.25 | Arrowmaster | get as many authors as possible to demand their addons be removed |
| 08:39.35 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: read the ace3 licence |
| 08:39.40 | Arrowmaster | it has 4 lines |
| 08:39.52 | mitch0 | just navigating there... |
| 08:40.14 | cncfanatics | ace3 license: don't redistribute a standalone version, fucker |
| 08:40.26 | Aiiane | lol |
| 08:40.33 | Orionshock | Redistribution of a stand alone version is strictly prohibited without prior written authorization from the Lead of the Ace3 Development Team. |
| 08:40.50 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 08:40.56 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowmatrix.com/contact.html |
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| 08:41.15 | Arrowmaster | they have a thing their pointing people to smariot for questhelper |
| 08:41.16 | mitch0 | well, if they don't actually cache their version, just point to wowace site, they're not really redistributing it (IANAL, so I might be completely off here :) |
| 08:41.48 | Aiiane | if you use your downloader, with your ads |
| 08:42.00 | Aiiane | you're cutting a mighty fine distinction |
| 08:42.11 | cncfanatics | not really |
| 08:42.25 | cncfanatics | its gettin downloaded from the wowace site |
| 08:42.43 | Aiiane | the question is what qualifies as "distribution" |
| 08:42.47 | mitch0 | erm, if you use MagicFTP, an ad-laden download client to get stuff from the interwebs, MagicFTP is still not a "distributor", so no... |
| 08:43.00 | Orionshock | imo they should play the card of stealing bandwidth and sue |
| 08:43.17 | cncfanatics | Aiiane: then the same would apply to all other updaters |
| 08:43.42 | mitch0 | orion: don't think you'd get too far with that... |
| 08:43.51 | Aiiane | yes, and technically the curse folks don't like them either, the other updaters just aren't quite as much douchebags about it |
| 08:45.04 | Aiiane | which for the time being would basically leave them in the category of "mildly tolerated but not condoned" |
| 08:45.24 | Aiiane | and once the repo change goes through they probably won't work for a while anyways |
| 08:45.29 | Orionshock | it's their sketchy personality that people don't like. they have their own ads in the updater so that those sites that they download from don't get income. It's also that those ads are selling gold half the time too |
| 08:46.11 | Arrowmaster | other updaters pull the addon listing from the different sites so its up2date when the person runs them |
| 08:46.14 | Arrowmaster | wowmatrix doesnt |
| 08:46.44 | Arrowmaster | and has been known to be out of date on some stuff for long enough periods of time to make a difference when people blindly mass update |
| 08:47.19 | Orionshock | JWU and WUU _IF_ they where to add in ads, they'd prolly work with the various main sites and add in a small ad from each one.. but they wouldn't underhandlingly fk up the situation. |
| 08:47.22 | cncfanatics | how can they be out of date when pulling from wowace ? |
| 08:47.34 | mitch0 | still, legally they are in the clear in my opinion. the best you could do is to tell users about them (why you hate them) and ask them not to use their service... (a popup at the first Ace3 init? :) |
| 08:47.36 | erikh | i swear to god, none of you have used a linux system :) |
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| 08:47.47 | cncfanatics | erikh: I have |
| 08:47.48 | erikh | this always comes up in here. |
| 08:47.48 | Arrowmaster | because they dont pull the Addonname.zip |
| 08:47.50 | cncfanatics | I play on linux |
| 08:48.02 | cncfanatics | erikh: like one third of this chan plays on linux |
| 08:48.06 | Arrowmaster | they pull an Addonname-r#####.zip |
| 08:48.10 | Orionshock | i've used it |
| 08:48.18 | Arrowmaster | which only gets updated on their list when they run an update |
| 08:48.22 | erikh | cncfanatics: I believe it, but some of the arguments make me suspect as to how much of it they actually use |
| 08:48.37 | erikh | the larger linux distributors normally have lawyers on staff |
| 08:48.52 | Orionshock | legaly your prolly right, no argument that holds water. dosn't mean we can't hate on them for other reasons |
| 08:48.56 | erikh | and how they handle the bundling of software that isn't legally sanctioned is simple: |
| 08:48.57 | cncfanatics | what does that have to do with an addon updater maintained by one person making money off adds ? |
| 08:49.16 | erikh | 1) the package contains an instruction to download it from the distributors site |
| 08:49.31 | erikh | 2) it is executed in however the manner the distributor intended, items are installed, etc |
| 08:49.33 | Arrowmaster | that doesnt exist with wowmatrix afaik |
| 08:49.39 | cncfanatics | thats not really the same heh |
| 08:49.40 | Arrowmaster | also not |
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| 08:49.50 | erikh | 3) a background process tracks what the program installs |
| 08:49.58 | erikh | Arrowmaster: the program could be 'tar' or 'unzip' |
| 08:50.05 | erikh | or it could be a shar with a license attached |
| 08:51.01 | cncfanatics | whats the relation with wowmatrix ? |
| 08:51.06 | cncfanatics | apt-get doesn't display its own adds |
| 08:51.28 | Arrowmaster | and doesnt leech bandwidth |
| 08:51.29 | winkiller | indeed |
| 08:51.30 | erikh | adds? |
| 08:51.40 | winkiller | *ads |
| 08:51.41 | cncfanatics | they're displaying their own adds yea |
| 08:51.42 | erikh | how do you think the proprietary nvidia drivers are installed, or vmware? |
| 08:51.43 | cncfanatics | which is what anoys us |
| 08:51.52 | erikh | ah, that's a different problem, heh |
| 08:52.04 | cncfanatics | wouldn't mind if they made no money off it |
| 08:52.08 | erikh | guess that's one of the hidden bonuses of doing everything non-profit |
| 08:52.15 | cncfanatics | but they leech wowace/curse/wowi bandwidth and make money of it with their own adds |
| 08:52.21 | cncfanatics | so, they should gtfo |
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| 08:52.43 | Lukian | charge them for the bandwidth :) |
| 08:53.10 | erikh | wowace/curse/wowi all have account systems, right? |
| 08:53.17 | erikh | and they have addon installers |
| 08:53.21 | cncfanatics | correct |
| 08:53.22 | erikh | sounds like an easy enough problem to solve |
| 08:53.27 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 08:53.28 | erikh | no account, no download |
| 08:53.38 | Arrowmaster | wowi and curse are like that afaik |
| 08:53.45 | cncfanatics | don't think so |
| 08:54.13 | Arrowmaster | perty sure they are since they both use the favorites feature of their sits |
| 08:54.14 | Arrowmaster | sites |
| 08:54.20 | erikh | I know curse does |
| 08:54.31 | erikh | you can't even use the addon manager without an account |
| 08:54.39 | erikh | at least, I guess I haven't tried it without it. |
| 08:54.45 | cncfanatics | I just logged out |
| 08:54.49 | cncfanatics | I could still download fine from cf |
| 08:55.14 | erikh | well, it's a solvable problem |
| 08:55.14 | Arrowmaster | were talking about the updaters not sites |
| 08:55.31 | erikh | I imagine if those sites really gave a crap about the bandwidth they were losing, they could solve it |
| 08:55.59 | cncfanatics | well, half true |
| 08:56.04 | Arrowmaster | 'Remove my addon CombatLogTimestamper and any other addons by me that you have listed illegally without permission from your site/program.' submited |
| 08:56.10 | cncfanatics | they could make a wowmatrix account |
| 08:56.17 | cncfanatics | and make it login before downloading |
| 08:56.26 | Aiiane | in the end, it's cat-and-mouse again |
| 08:56.26 | cncfanatics | and then u'd be playing cat & mouse again banning that account every time |
| 08:56.41 | Arrowmaster | and when that starts legal action would too |
| 08:56.53 | Orionshock | solution is to get ppl to not use it becuase of ethics |
| 08:56.54 | erikh | most users are not going to waste their time registering accounts on four sites to use one program |
| 08:57.04 | erikh | and if wowmatrix does it for them, that's easy enough to block. |
| 08:57.21 | cncfanatics | not rly |
| 08:57.27 | cncfanatics | they can make new accounts every time we block time |
| 08:57.38 | cncfanatics | and pull account info from their webbie |
| 08:57.42 | Arrowmaster | and like i said, that would also be cause for legal action |
| 08:57.49 | erikh | yeah, and when account 'wowm' downloads cartographer 2-3k times in one day |
| 08:57.52 | erikh | it's going to be obvious |
| 08:58.06 | erikh | hell, they could spread it across a hundred accounts |
| 08:58.15 | erikh | if they're not making a blip on the radar, they're not making any money |
| 08:58.22 | erikh | (and probably not using a worthwhile amount of bandwidth) |
| 08:59.50 | Arrowmaster | should get some addon authors to switch to advertising clause bsd license for a while just to fuck with wowmatrix |
| 09:00.18 | mitch0 | arrow: once again, they're not really distributors... |
| 09:00.26 | mitch0 | arrow: so that won't change a thing for them |
| 09:00.34 | erikh | and if the software is untouched |
| 09:00.37 | erikh | it won't matter anyways |
| 09:01.08 | mitch0 | as I said, just make Ace3 display a message to users about the issue on startup and be done with it |
| 09:01.27 | Orionshock | mitch0: they will never do it because of bloat :P |
| 09:01.30 | Orionshock | lol |
| 09:01.34 | mitch0 | :) |
| 09:01.39 | mitch0 | & (smoke) |
| 09:01.40 | erikh | mitch0: punish everyone (including WAU users) because of wowmatrix? |
| 09:01.49 | mitch0 | "punish"? |
| 09:01.53 | mitch0 | oh well |
| 09:02.07 | winkiller | useless popups are a punishment, yea |
| 09:02.09 | mitch0 | you know what, just keep bitching on here. that'll surely make things better :) |
| 09:02.27 | cncfanatics | mitch0: if people keep removing their addons from wowmatrix |
| 09:02.28 | erikh | I'm not the one bitching about the problem |
| 09:02.29 | cncfanatics | YEA IT WILL :p |
| 09:02.42 | Orionshock | mitch0: we have a soution actualy; get as many authors as we can to get their addons removed |
| 09:02.56 | Orionshock | if enough main stream addons get removed then it'll go out of bussness |
| 09:02.59 | Arrowmaster | especially big name addons |
| 09:03.13 | mitch0 | orion: I don't think you have any actual _right_ to do that... |
| 09:03.15 | [Ammo] | the issue is not with the fact that they provide an easy updater |
| 09:03.17 | [Ammo] | there are more like that |
| 09:03.25 | Zhinjio | I don't even know what wowmatrix is, so I'm going to remain blissfully unaware of the issue, and do my part |
| 09:03.26 | [Ammo] | the issue is with the fact that they make money of other people's bandiwth |
| 09:03.27 | Orionshock | mitch0: ? |
| 09:03.28 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 09:03.30 | Orionshock | why not, |
| 09:03.48 | mitch0 | orion: 'cos they don't actually host it. same thing with torrent trackers |
| 09:03.49 | erikh | last i checked, the addon authors generally don't pay for the bandwidth anyways |
| 09:03.55 | mitch0 | they can't really "catch" them either |
| 09:03.56 | cncfanatics | mitch0: legaly we don't |
| 09:04.02 | mitch0 | that's it |
| 09:04.10 | cncfanatics | mitch0: but if they do remove them, do we care ? |
| 09:04.20 | [Ammo] | I'd rather have people download my addons from wowace or wowinterface directly so the ad revenue goes to the site |
| 09:04.33 | mitch0 | cnc: well, if too many authors want stuff to be removed, they'll just stop doing it... |
| 09:04.35 | [Ammo] | annd not through wowmatrix where the ad revenue goes to wowmatrix and the bandwith cost goes to the other sites |
| 09:04.46 | erikh | so you release your addon with a license that says it can only be distributed via these vendors |
| 09:04.47 | cncfanatics | mitch0: I doubt it |
| 09:04.49 | Orionshock | it is a matter of ethics; in idea we as authors "sell" our addons to a perticular site, they in turn host it and make ad revenue off it; so in an obsucre way we do pay for it |
| 09:05.05 | winkiller | bad analogy |
| 09:05.06 | mitch0 | anyway, gotta go now |
| 09:05.10 | mitch0 | & |
| 09:05.12 | winkiller | youi don't sell anythinh :P |
| 09:05.13 | Orionshock | winkiller: true |
| 09:05.16 | Zhinjio | curse is going so far as to reward us for pushing "customers" to use their site. |
| 09:05.18 | Zhinjio | or... will be. |
| 09:05.43 | erikh | if they're stealing bandwidth from your vendors, then it becomes your vendors' problem |
| 09:05.44 | Arrowmaster | we should get blizzard to add wowmatrix to its list of sites that can not be mentioned ingame due to the url filter, and filter wowmatrix on the forums since it advertises stuff thats not allowed |
| 09:06.24 | Arrowmaster | if you cant talk about wowmatrix on the wow forums then id like to see how many people keep using it |
| 09:06.34 | cncfanatics | all the ones that currently use it ? |
| 09:06.47 | Arrowmaster | a lot probably would get scared and stop using it |
| 09:06.48 | erikh | dunno, this just reminds me of problems we had with spiders on a very popular website I used to work on |
| 09:07.07 | erikh | these spiders would crawl the site and like google, off searching with ads |
| 09:07.25 | erikh | some of these spiders were out of control and would eat bandwidth like a fat man eats cake |
| 09:07.29 | erikh | we'd block them |
| 09:07.33 | erikh | end of problem |
| 09:08.04 | erikh | either they found a less intrusive way of solving their problems so we didn't care, or they found something else to do |
| 09:08.09 | Aiiane | ahaha. this is amusing. I've fun lag before, but it's more fun when wow decides to not log on anything /except/ letting me log out :P |
| 09:08.35 | Zhinjio | spiders from legitimate sites will generally follow rules that you specify about what parts of your site are eligible for crawling and not. |
| 09:08.44 | Zhinjio | but yes, they can be blocked, of course. |
| 09:08.45 | erikh | yes, I'm familiar with robots.t |
| 09:08.56 | erikh | it's really the same problem |
| 09:09.23 | Zhinjio | Aiiane: havingthe same problem atm. |
| 09:09.27 | erikh | yeah, we had one particularly nasty spider that added something like 100k items to a shopping cart once |
| 09:09.29 | Zhinjio | started with loot lag. got kicked, now can't login |
| 09:09.54 | Diao | it's happening across all servers i think |
| 09:09.56 | Diao | cause it happened to me |
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| 09:10.09 | Diao | i tried alt-f4ing out and relogging but it gave me a "this character already exists" message |
| 09:10.15 | Diao | and then it got stuck at full load |
| 09:10.22 | Arrowmaster | erikh: wow thats perty bad |
| 09:10.39 | Zhinjio | Diao: same here |
| 09:11.46 | erikh | Arrowmaster: yeah, heh. blocked him and added a few code tweaks on that one |
| 09:11.54 | Arrowmaster | if i had a large enough site that stuff like that happened i would do something like create a page but mark it as not indexable in robots.txt and add some hidden links to it on pages and check the logs for that page to find spiders that dont follow the rules and just block them all |
| 09:12.20 | Aiiane | yeah |
| 09:12.31 | Arrowmaster | if you cant follow the rules then gtfo |
| 09:13.07 | erikh | that's a lot more effort than blocking the big offenders |
| 09:13.13 | erikh | plus, we sold stuff on that site |
| 09:13.14 | odt | any reason why WAUs update all addons should give me some Google Desktop dll errors? |
| 09:13.17 | Aiiane | sort of like a basic bot-catcher we run on some of the web forms for a site I helped with... some of the submission forms have bogus form fields with display:none in CSS... any form that gets submitted with content in that gets silently rejected; if more than 5 are submitted from the same address, auto ip block |
| 09:13.18 | erikh | more pagerank the better |
| 09:13.33 | erikh | if they're being polite, the worst they're doing is advertising for us |
| 09:13.51 | Arrowmaster | erikh: but you dont get pagerank from spiders that dont follow the rules |
| 09:14.04 | Arrowmaster | the only spiders that matter follow the rules |
| 09:15.12 | erikh | man, when it's less than 1/100th of the bandwidth and we potentially get free advertising on a site that serves to millions of potential unique customers a day |
| 09:15.28 | erikh | no one's funding work to write a bot-catcher when marketing agendas can be progressed on |
| 09:16.10 | erikh | esp. considering how cheap bandwidth is when you're moving that much. |
| 09:16.51 | Arrowmaster | sounds like a site big enough to do useragent checking and send special versions of pages to spiders anyway |
| 09:17.05 | erikh | oh god no |
| 09:17.13 | erikh | useragent checking is the most unreliable thing on the planet |
| 09:17.17 | erikh | we just paid the search engines |
| 09:17.19 | erikh | to list us |
| 09:17.40 | Arrowmaster | i didnt mean for evil purposes |
| 09:17.43 | erikh | useragent checking and referer checking are great ways to do the wrong thing |
| 09:17.57 | erikh | it's trivial to supply whatever the hell you want |
| 09:18.14 | erikh | first rule of secure HTTP handling: never trust the user |
| 09:18.29 | cncfanatics | agree |
| 09:18.34 | cncfanatics | anything stored clietn side is unsafe |
| 09:18.42 | cncfanatics | except if its encrypted with your private key :p |
| 09:19.16 | winkiller | don't be so paranoid :P |
| 09:19.30 | cncfanatics | well, its a good rule of thumb :) |
| 09:19.42 | cncfanatics | not that I'd bother encrypting anything with a private key for use in a website cookie |
| 09:20.02 | Arrowmaster | i would |
| 09:20.39 | erikh | cncfanatics: actually, even then it's not secure |
| 09:20.44 | Arrowmaster | hell i dont even truely trust encryption unless its done by hardware |
| 09:20.46 | erikh | it's still subject to a replay attack |
| 09:21.04 | Aiiane | Don't store sensitive data client-side, period. |
| 09:21.06 | Arrowmaster | erikh: you can fix that |
| 09:21.31 | erikh | of course you can, but it has nothing to do with encryption. |
| 09:22.53 | erikh | if if charlie and alice are both behind the same nat it's a much harder problem |
| 09:23.27 | Arrowmaster | meh i was just going to suggest changing the cookie |
| 09:23.41 | Arrowmaster | and remembering what the only valid one is on the server |
| 09:23.56 | erikh | well of course, but that still leaves window of opportunity |
| 09:24.03 | erikh | if HTTP was stateful, none of this would be an issue |
| 09:24.31 | nevcairiel | but would open another bunch of issues ;) |
| 09:24.48 | erikh | nevcairiel: yeah, in the scaling department :) |
| 09:25.06 | Orionshock | well if technical aspects can't lock it out then socialy sccrew em over |
| 09:25.31 | Arrowmaster | a lot of the main protocales are seriously flawed |
| 09:25.48 | Arrowmaster | like i wish we just completely abandoned smtp |
| 09:25.53 | erikh | anyways, solving it for all cases is a harder problem than most people think |
| 09:26.02 | erikh | esmtp isn't that bad |
| 09:26.05 | erikh | it's just that it's not required |
| 09:26.20 | Arrowmaster | anything smtp is just flawed |
| 09:26.23 | erikh | IMAP on the other hand is a horrid abomination and makes me want to hurt people |
| 09:26.36 | cncfanatics | erikh: feel free to hurt its author ? :) |
| 09:26.48 | Arrowmaster | imap is a pop replacement not smtp |
| 09:26.57 | erikh | cncfanatics: I have made public threats against Mark Crispin before |
| 09:27.05 | erikh | Arrowmaster: IMAP is a lot more than POP. |
| 09:27.10 | Arrowmaster | i know that |
| 09:27.40 | Arrowmaster | but unless the source and destination are both on the same server and both using imap then smtp still enters the picture |
| 09:27.41 | erikh | IMAP is basically a network filesystem that happens to know a lot about email |
| 09:28.36 | erikh | Arrowmaster: that's the thing... ESMTP isn't that bad, but it's not RFC-compliant to lock out SMTP users |
| 09:28.37 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78907 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: |
| 09:28.37 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:28.37 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU half dummy translations in Babble-Trainer-2.2 |
| 09:29.45 | Arrowmaster | i would have to look into it but does it require the sender to have a valid email address? |
| 09:30.12 | erikh | heh. |
| 09:30.21 | Arrowmaster | and if so whats to stop somebody from must modifiy the source code? |
| 09:30.33 | erikh | oh, most servers let you turn that off. |
| 09:30.37 | erikh | without modification. |
| 09:30.38 | Arrowmaster | these are why i say smtp is flawed |
| 09:30.47 | Orionshock | grr |
| 09:30.50 | erikh | sure.... where would the central authority be located? |
| 09:30.53 | Orionshock | have to remove the other one now from wowm |
| 09:31.04 | erikh | how would private smtp users work with a central authority? |
| 09:31.17 | erikh | what about unix systems that have no connection to the internet? lots of them use smtp. |
| 09:31.48 | Arrowmaster | like i said smtp should just be abandoned and a completely new system designed |
| 09:31.54 | erikh | it's easier to let smtp worry about sending email, and use something like SPF to work in conjunction with SMTP. |
| 09:33.06 | erikh | that way internal mail services just don't bother worrying about SPF and everything still works |
| 09:33.07 | Arrowmaster | personally i like xri but it would take a lot of work to get people to switch over to a system that that worked ontop of it |
| 09:33.32 | erikh | what about anonymizers? |
| 09:34.46 | erikh | the biggest problem with SMTP as a protocol is that relaying is unrestricted, but I can't think of a single modern SMTP server that allows open relays by default |
| 09:37.19 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78908 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: |
| 09:37.19 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:37.19 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU half dummy translations in Babble-Trainer-2.2 |
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| 09:47.53 | Orionshock | anyone else here play on Nagrand? |
| 09:48.27 | erikh | only when I need water motes |
| 09:48.34 | erikh | sorry, couldn't resist. |
| 09:49.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:49.51 | cncfanatics | ~fail erikh |
| 09:49.51 | purl | erikh, you Fail! |
| 09:50.01 | erikh | heh |
| 09:56.58 | CIA-45 | 03Copystring * r78909 10YurrCombatLog/ (Config.lua Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua YurrCombatLog.toc): |
| 09:56.58 | CIA-45 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 09:56.58 | CIA-45 | - complete reworked the filtering stuff, ability to define custom filters with source,destination,flags |
| 09:56.58 | CIA-45 | - new filtering ui |
| 09:56.58 | CIA-45 | - improved some lines to be more efficient |
| 10:00.54 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78910 10SpellReminder/locale/zhCN.lua: |
| 10:00.54 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 10:00.54 | CIA-45 | - zhCN update |
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| 10:46.00 | CIA-45 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 10:46.00 | CIA-45 | - forgot to remove some debug lines... |
| 10:46.30 | Kulaar | hm can someone tell me where to get the beta client, if the blizz site is down? |
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| 11:03.37 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5102270250&postId=51014611042&sid=1#0 <-retarded retards are retaaaaaaarded |
| 11:03.58 | Elkano | homosexuals are gay! |
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| 11:11.34 | Pkekyo| | and gays are faggots :O |
| 11:11.48 | Fisker- | and Pkekyo| is homosexual |
| 11:11.48 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:11.57 | Fisker- | the circle is complete |
| 11:13.06 | harldephin | well.. nothing wrong with that.. |
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| 11:14.21 | CIA-45 | AoFDKP : |
| 11:14.21 | CIA-45 | -Removing FuBar plugin. |
| 11:14.21 | CIA-45 | -Preparing to move to Ace 3 |
| 11:16.38 | CIA-45 | 03laric * r78913 10AoFDKP/ (AoFDKP.toc AoFDKP_locale.lua): |
| 11:16.38 | CIA-45 | AoFDKP : |
| 11:16.38 | CIA-45 | -Bump version. |
| 11:16.53 | Pkekyo| | you're so fail baby jeebus cries, Fisker- |
| 11:17.38 | cncfanatics | you make the kittens god didn't eat yet cry Fisker- |
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| 11:47.22 | ckknight | Orionshock: what do you mean "creepy amount of detail"? |
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| 11:49.50 | cncfanatics | ckknight: he's just being way too sensible |
| 11:49.54 | cncfanatics | he's a bit emo I think |
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| 11:52.04 | Fisker- | about wut? |
| 11:52.26 | cncfanatics | skinning you giving crit rating |
| 11:52.43 | Fisker- | i critted your mom cncfanatics |
| 11:53.02 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 11:53.05 | cncfanatics | she's crit immune |
| 11:53.58 | Fisker- | she can't be |
| 11:54.19 | Fisker- | true story |
| 11:54.59 | Fisker- | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:55.03 | Fisker- | you heard me |
| 11:55.37 | charon | just because it's in your combat log, it doesn't have to be true! |
| 11:55.54 | Lukian | Xinhuan, "Others" MOD_INT 2 (for the 2% int meta gem), is this display intentional or planning on tidying it up? |
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| 12:00.44 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78915 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 12:00.44 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:00.44 | CIA-45 | - 'The Deadmines' overhaul |
| 12:00.50 | winkiller | omg! |
| 12:00.57 | Stanzilla | omg dm! |
| 12:01.16 | cncfanatics | omg dm! |
| 12:02.32 | Trell_ | !!! |
| 12:02.53 | Vulcanus | imoportunt change is importunt |
| 12:02.54 | Trell_ | what exactly does the 'overhaul' entail |
| 12:03.16 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78916 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 12:03.16 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 12:03.16 | CIA-45 | - 'The Deadmines' overhaul |
| 12:03.18 | cncfanatics | Trell_: EPIX |
| 12:03.32 | Trell_ | awesome |
| 12:07.56 | Fisker- | cncfanatics defend yourself |
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| 12:16.51 | Lysithea | <cncfanatics> skinning you giving crit rating |
| 12:16.52 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: I'm planning nanowars |
| 12:17.03 | Lysithea | where can I read about the rest of the proffesions bonuses |
| 12:17.04 | Lysithea | ? |
| 12:17.18 | nevcairiel | I havent seen any bonus on other professions |
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| 12:17.34 | Lysithea | I heared 20stam for mining in some irc chan |
| 12:18.35 | nevcairiel | ToughnessRank 6 |
| 12:18.35 | nevcairiel | All your hard work spent mining has made you exceptionally tough, increasing your Stamina by 35. |
| 12:18.41 | nevcairiel | must've missed that before |
| 12:19.00 | Lysithea | oh 35 |
| 12:19.03 | winkiller | WTF? |
| 12:19.13 | winkiller | my druid is gojnf to be imba with MIne/Herb |
| 12:19.45 | winkiller | Lysithea: everytime I see you you scare the hell outta me because my lock has that name.. bet I already told you... |
| 12:20.00 | nevcairiel | definately didnt find one for herbalism yet |
| 12:20.00 | Lysithea | nop |
| 12:20.39 | Fisker- | giev int or mp5 for enchanting plx |
| 12:20.59 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: only gathering professions |
| 12:21.03 | winkiller | ench has ring enchants already |
| 12:21.06 | Fisker- | :( |
| 12:21.10 | winkiller | ! |
| 12:21.14 | Fisker- | makes sense though |
| 12:21.18 | winkiller | indeed |
| 12:21.22 | Fisker- | since we already got some bonuses in crafing profs |
| 12:21.26 | winkiller | yep |
| 12:21.27 | Fisker- | like ring enchants :P |
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| 12:21.46 | Fisker- | also then people may think of having it on their main instead of creating alts for mining etc. :D |
| 12:21.54 | Fisker- | <-gotta survive bbl |
| 12:22.06 | nevcairiel | no-one takes gathering on their main because they dont get anything out of them |
| 12:22.16 | nevcairiel | i still have herbalism on my druid and not going to drop it ;) |
| 12:23.11 | kagaro | ive got herbs and tailor on my priest, not gona drop that for sure |
| 12:23.14 | winkiller | my main is skin/LW |
| 12:23.29 | winkiller | I'll drop it with wotlk, because I have another skin/LW at 70 now |
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| 12:29.34 | harldephin | so autobar still isn't movable without it popping around like one of my stupid nephews.. cool! |
| 12:30.36 | harldephin | oh great, i just used an elixier in move buttons mode.. d'oh! |
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| 12:30.53 | harldephin | that's stuff that shouldn't happen |
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| 12:34.56 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78917 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: |
| 12:34.56 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:34.56 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU translations in Babble-Trainer-2.2 |
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| 12:38.07 | Pneumatus | does anyone know if "Trash Mobs" (used in pt-instanceloot) has translations anywhere in the babble libs or elsewhere? |
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| 12:41.20 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r78918 10Chatter/Localization/zhCN.lua: Chatter: Update zhCN locale |
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| 12:47.54 | Camci | wtb questhelper for beta :p |
| 12:50.01 | ashb | wts beta code :) |
| 12:50.07 | ashb | (srlsy - I've got a card) |
| 12:50.42 | Camci | alrdy got ty :p |
| 12:50.50 | ashb | i didn't know that they'd opened it up tho |
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| 12:51.20 | Pneumatus | wtb beta code :< |
| 12:51.30 | ashb | how much you willing to pay? :) |
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| 12:52.34 | Orionshock | 100$ by paypal |
| 12:53.27 | cncfanatics | they go for 600$ on ebay |
| 12:53.40 | nevcairiel | thats crazy |
| 12:53.40 | Luthorhuss | the goodie bags from WWI (with beta for WotLK) as ~ £200 on eBay.. :P |
| 12:53.49 | Josh_Borke | seriously? |
| 12:53.51 | Josh_Borke | 100$? |
| 12:53.52 | ashb | yeah |
| 12:53.56 | Josh_Borke | 600$ on ebay? |
| 12:53.57 | Pneumatus | theres ome going for less than that on ebay now |
| 12:53.59 | Camci | I cant unpack cartog3... says files are missing? |
| 12:54.00 | Pneumatus | *some |
| 12:54.03 | ashb | well the ticket to get in was ~ $120 |
| 12:54.10 | Josh_Borke | people have way too much expendable income |
| 12:54.12 | ashb | (55 GBP) |
| 12:54.18 | Pneumatus | theres a buy it now for $400 |
| 12:54.30 | ashb | my friend sold his for 350 GBP |
| 12:54.46 | ashb | and then after the other guy payed, ebay canceled his auction, so he didn't even have to pay any fees |
| 12:54.48 | Pneumatus | theres one bidded on ebay uk at 100 GBP |
| 12:54.53 | Pneumatus | 15 hours left |
| 12:55.09 | winkiller | sick people |
| 12:55.34 | winkiller | should've gone there with the girl and then sold one of the bags for the expenses |
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| 12:55.57 | ashb | or loose your pass after collecting your bag and convince the gate staff to print you another one |
| 12:56.35 | Pneumatus | guess i will continune to cross my fingers over the cf giveaway :) |
| 12:56.50 | ashb | right - how do i get AceEvent2 messages in my Ace3 addon? |
| 12:57.34 | Xinhuan | [7/22 19:55:44] <Lukian> Xinhuan, "Others" MOD_INT 2 (for the 2% int meta gem), is this display intentional or planning on tidying it up? |
| 12:58.03 | Xinhuan | i use the "Others" section for bonuses that were detected, but i haven't actually hardcoded them to display somewhere else in another category |
| 12:58.14 | Lukian | nods |
| 12:58.18 | Xinhuan | usually these are new bonuses, that libitembonus eventually added to recognize, that i don't |
| 12:58.25 | ashb | which addon? |
| 12:58.41 | cncfanatics | god |
| 12:58.43 | cncfanatics | fucking client |
| 12:58.50 | cncfanatics | talking to some totaly unrelated stuff |
| 12:58.52 | cncfanatics | gtfo |
| 12:59.52 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 12:59.52 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after Xinhuan's head |
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| 14:00.05 | Ellipsis | brightest wikipedia page ever? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors |
| 14:00.41 | Pneumatus | vandalised :< |
| 14:00.58 | cncfanatics | where ? :o |
| 14:01.23 | Pneumatus | the whole 'A' section |
| 14:01.39 | Pneumatus | showing wikicode rather than a pretty output |
| 14:02.26 | cncfanatics | pretty output gere |
| 14:02.27 | cncfanatics | here* |
| 14:02.29 | cncfanatics | sure its not u ? |
| 14:02.54 | Pneumatus | im seeing like: "|- ! style="text-align:left;" | Alice blue" |
| 14:03.05 | Pneumatus | but a massive block |
| 14:03.06 | Fisker- | i see the same |
| 14:03.49 | Pneumatus | i'd revert it, but im too lazy to work out which is the right one |
| 14:04.39 | Fisker- | seems to be {{Dynamic list}} that ruins it |
| 14:05.15 | Fisker- | lol |
| 14:05.16 | Fisker- | now it workw |
| 14:05.18 | Fisker- | works |
| 14:05.22 | Ellipsis | er...it looks fine here |
| 14:05.27 | Fisker- | and there's no change here |
| 14:05.31 | Ellipsis | stop sucking, guys :P |
| 14:05.34 | Kalroth | it's still broken here |
| 14:05.39 | Kalroth | |- ! style="text-align:left;" | Alice blue | style="background-color:#F0F8FF;" |
| 14:05.40 | Fisker- | that's just weird |
| 14:05.47 | Pneumatus | yeh still broken here also |
| 14:05.48 | Fisker- | browser screwyness |
| 14:06.00 | Kalroth | forced reload fixed it |
| 14:06.16 | Pneumatus | works fine in IE :s |
| 14:06.42 | Pneumatus | ah, working in FF now |
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| 14:13.18 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78919 10AtlasLoot/ (16 files in 5 dirs): |
| 14:13.18 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:13.18 | CIA-45 | - AQ20 Sets moved to one loot table |
| 14:13.18 | CIA-45 | - moved Tier 1 and Tier 2 to one loot table (for each class) |
| 14:13.46 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78920 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 14:13.46 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP_ |
| 14:13.46 | CIA-45 | - AQ20 Sets moved to one loot table |
| 14:13.46 | CIA-45 | - moved Tier 1 and Tier 2 to one loot table (for each class) |
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| 14:34.30 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_072208_073352.jpg |
| 14:34.45 | Poul|Raider | http://www.mogulus.com/nelleravencrest livestream from nexus |
| 14:35.25 | profalbert | need character-copy working ...... |
| 14:36.50 | profalbert | deathknight is nice, but not what i want |
| 14:39.30 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78922 10Mapster/GroupIcons.lua: Mapster: add throttling to the GroupIcons module to prevent excessive cpu usage |
| 14:39.33 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r78921 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:39.33 | CIA-45 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 14:39.33 | CIA-45 | - Fix for setting a button to an inventory item |
| 14:39.33 | CIA-45 | - Death Knight spell added, travel forms |
| 14:39.43 | kenlyric | lord |
| 14:39.51 | kenlyric | is it august yet? :) |
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| 14:43.15 | CIA-45 | 03next96 * r78923 10YurrCombatLog/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 14:43.15 | CIA-45 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 14:43.15 | CIA-45 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 14:52.52 | dig|away | no, july here |
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| 15:00.57 | Ironhand | does anyone know of a /command to change the currently set spoken language? |
| 15:01.18 | nevcairiel | you can change ChatEditBox.language |
| 15:01.19 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 15:01.20 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 15:01.32 | Ironhand | ok, thanks |
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| 15:10.23 | Josh_Borke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 15:10.23 | purl | executes killall -TERM nevcairiel |
| 15:10.42 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: change the topic to say "Author" instead of "Athor" |
| 15:11.46 | *** topic/#wowace by nevcairiel -> WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Author Key Give-Aways! http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 |
| 15:11.52 | nevcairiel | i blame Kaelten |
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| 15:11.58 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:12.03 | Fisker- | someone is slapping you |
| 15:12.07 | Fisker- | are you man enough to stop him? |
| 15:12.09 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78924 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc: |
| 15:12.09 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:12.09 | CIA-45 | - Removed Skinner from ToC |
| 15:12.09 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 15:12.09 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
| 15:12.10 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Fisker- a good jolt |
| 15:12.50 | Kaelten | hrm, I wonder if I can get somone to turn the chat logs into a Q/A format |
| 15:13.18 | Fisker- | find & replace |
| 15:13.19 | Fisker- | :D |
| 15:13.38 | Fisker- | Technically the question part would be irrelevant anyways |
| 15:13.43 | Fisker- | so you could just do it for the answers |
| 15:15.40 | fewyn | i can do it for you Kaelten i'm not doing anything specific |
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| 15:18.08 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Kaelten |
| 15:18.08 | purl | beats Kaelten into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
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| 15:21.21 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 15:21.21 | purl | wallops Vulcanus with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 15:21.41 | Vulcanus | ~lart fewyn |
| 15:21.41 | purl | takes out fewyn with the trash |
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| 15:29.05 | Chompers | "files.wowace.com will be discontinued" |
| 15:29.11 | Chompers | crushing blow :< |
| 15:29.57 | Industrial | google code has been around for a few years |
| 15:30.07 | Industrial | I really dont know why theres still an svn for wowace.com |
| 15:30.18 | Industrial | all the svn traffic can be loaded on google easily... |
| 15:30.27 | Chompers | i guess it had to go eventually |
| 15:30.42 | Industrial | you can make an index of google code projects on wowace |
| 15:30.45 | Industrial | searchable |
| 15:30.47 | Industrial | everyone happy |
| 15:30.48 | Industrial | :S |
| 15:31.46 | Industrial | ho shi-never thought of it? :p |
| 15:33.18 | Industrial | amirite Tem |
| 15:33.27 | Tem | probably not |
| 15:33.33 | Industrial | lol :p |
| 15:33.46 | Tem | but in this channel, I'll agree with you just to piss off whoever you're disagreeing with |
| 15:33.59 | AckisWork | ahhh! I'm pissed off! rawr |
| 15:39.04 | Saroz | uhm |
| 15:39.10 | Saroz | why dont unitbuff() return the spellid |
| 15:39.11 | Saroz | thats bull |
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| 15:44.31 | pastamancer | that would make it too easy Saroz |
| 15:44.39 | Saroz | yes, clearly |
| 15:44.45 | Saroz | would make too much sense |
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| 15:45.19 | Saroz | not even in 3.0 it returns spellid |
| 15:45.49 | Saroz | *sigh* |
| 15:45.55 | pastamancer | you could always check the combat log |
| 15:46.19 | Saroz | not if I need a list of buffs from current target |
| 15:46.22 | Saroz | by id |
| 15:46.27 | pastamancer | ah |
| 15:46.33 | Saroz | have to match name and texture then |
| 15:46.53 | Saroz | oldschool |
| 15:47.02 | pastamancer | well... hang on a sec |
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| 15:47.31 | Saroz | and I cant post in US suggestion forum, so I dont have a chance |
| 15:47.38 | Saroz | WTB beta invite |
| 15:47.51 | pastamancer | http://kyle.13th-floor.org/wow/spells/spells_2_4_0.txt |
| 15:48.02 | pastamancer | you could turn that list into a name -> id lookup |
| 15:48.10 | Saroz | name isnt enough |
| 15:48.12 | pastamancer | or loop GetSpellInfo to build your own list |
| 15:48.18 | Saroz | heroism is used for many buffs |
| 15:49.40 | pastamancer | well, name + texture -> id |
| 15:53.23 | syeren | Hey Pastamancer, how's development of Grid2 going? |
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| 16:00.01 | pastamancer | syeren: dunno, ask jerry |
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| 16:23.58 | o_o_ | How i match using gsub character like ö? |
| 16:24.11 | o_o_ | %a doesn't seem to work |
| 16:24.41 | Aiiane | character ranges, maybe? |
| 16:25.06 | profalbert | lua> string.gsub("bab", "a", "b") |
| 16:25.06 | lua_bot | profalbert: bbb, 1 |
| 16:26.09 | profalbert | lua> string.gsub("b -a- -bb- b", "-%w-", "+b+") |
| 16:26.09 | lua_bot | profalbert: b +b+a+b+ +b+bb+b+ b, 4 |
| 16:26.32 | profalbert | lua> string.gsub("b -a- -bb- b", "-%a-", "+b+") |
| 16:26.51 | nevcairiel | - is a special char |
| 16:27.04 | profalbert | ah, right |
| 16:27.15 | nevcairiel | lua> string.gsub("b -a- -bb- b", "%-%a%-", "+b+") |
| 16:27.38 | nevcairiel | lua> string.gsub("b -a- -bb- b", "%-%l%-", "+b+") |
| 16:27.49 | profalbert | I killed lua_bot? :( |
| 16:27.54 | nevcairiel | lua> "hello" |
| 16:27.54 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: hello |
| 16:27.56 | Megalon | lua> string.gsub("b -a- -bb- b", "%-%a%-", "+b+") |
| 16:27.57 | lua_bot | Megalon: b +b+ -bb- b, 1 |
| 16:28.05 | Megalon | ;) |
| 16:28.21 | Aiiane | hrm... that's odd. |
| 16:28.22 | Megalon | nev: you got a special character infront of your msg |
| 16:28.32 | nevcairiel | that happens when you c/p from someone |
| 16:28.34 | Aiiane | AceDB isn't preserving its values across logouts :/ |
| 16:29.05 | nevcairiel | Aiiane: do you call :New in the main chunk of the file? |
| 16:29.10 | nevcairiel | If so, move it to OnInitialize |
| 16:29.14 | nevcairiel | (or after ADDON_LOADED) |
| 16:29.15 | Aiiane | k |
| 16:29.22 | Aiiane | ill doublecheck that |
| 16:29.36 | nevcairiel | (AceDB:New) that is |
| 16:29.50 | Aiiane | nods |
| 16:31.09 | profalbert | ah, that explains it |
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| 16:32.53 | Aiiane | updates the AceDB3 wiki page to make that clearer :P |
| 16:33.37 | nevcairiel | go ahead, i was always meaning to do that |
| 16:35.46 | Aiiane | hmm... anyone know if there's a simple way to get winrar to strip out .svn directories when creating an archive? |
| 16:37.17 | dodga | Aiiane: I don't know if that's possible, but why would one compress a working directory? :D |
| 16:38.13 | nevcairiel | run a svn export first :P |
| 16:38.33 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5102500450&sid=1 <-best news ever btw |
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| 16:39.04 | nevcairiel | awesome change |
| 16:39.15 | profalbert | oh yeah |
| 16:39.27 | nevcairiel | all my mounts and pets always with me |
| 16:39.39 | chiper | whowhat? |
| 16:39.42 | dodga | Fisker-: Awesome, but I already destroyed so much vanity pets that I cannot get back :( |
| 16:39.48 | chiper | pet bag? |
| 16:39.51 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:39.53 | nevcairiel | read the news |
| 16:39.55 | Fisker- | pets and mounts will be spells now |
| 16:40.00 | Fisker- | non combat pets that is |
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| 16:40.27 | Seerah | yeah, I'll probably get more pets now ;) |
| 16:40.30 | chiper | non-combat pets, I'm assuming? |
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| 16:41.42 | Aeyan | I've got too many pets to carry them with me, but that's a great chance |
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| 16:41.43 | Aeyan | change |
| 16:41.47 | Aeyan | They fill up my bank =P |
| 16:41.55 | chiper | ok, which news are you referring to? |
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| 16:42.11 | Aeyan | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5102500450&sid=1 |
| 16:42.15 | pastamancer | ooh, awesome |
| 16:42.58 | chiper | ooo, interesting |
| 16:45.08 | Fisker- | omg i linked it first Aeyan :( |
| 16:45.47 | Aeyan | Yeah, chiper asked to link it again =P |
| 16:45.53 | Aeyan | Too slow, my glory |
| 16:45.58 | CIA-45 | 03alx * r78925 10WhoLib/WhoLib.toc: WhoLib: TOC and email update |
| 16:46.05 | chiper | I logged in after you had posted it |
| 16:46.16 | fewyn | ZOMG |
| 16:46.17 | fewyn | awesome |
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| 16:48.34 | Aeyan | I think I had 14 minipets last time I counted |
| 16:48.41 | Aeyan | Without having bought any of the vendor ones, heh |
| 16:48.46 | fewyn | i have ~30 on my bank alt |
| 16:48.46 | Aeyan | Viva that change |
| 16:49.48 | Aiiane | sorry, was afk... nevcairiel, I was actually asking completely independent to addon development, this was another set of directories that were previously in an svn repo but the repo no longer exists :P |
| 16:50.02 | nevcairiel | ah lol |
| 16:50.20 | Aiiane | just figured someone here might know :P |
| 16:51.07 | nevcairiel | find -type d -name .svn -exec xargs rm -rf |
| 16:51.15 | dodga | nevcairiel: I was gonna say that :P |
| 16:51.35 | dodga | nevcairiel: Though he'll need Cygwin |
| 16:51.39 | dodga | Or find.exe |
| 16:51.42 | Aiiane | *she'll |
| 16:51.45 | nevcairiel | or linux |
| 16:51.47 | dodga | My bad |
| 16:51.54 | dodga | Or OS X |
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| 16:56.39 | CIA-45 | 03aiiane * r78927 10AiiDLink/ (AiiDLink.lua AiiDLink.toc): |
| 16:56.39 | CIA-45 | AiiDLink: |
| 16:56.39 | CIA-45 | - AceDB fix |
| 16:56.39 | CIA-45 | - Added support for saved enchant refs |
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| 17:02.41 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78928 10StatBlock_Combatlog/StatBlock_Combatlog.lua: |
| 17:02.41 | CIA-45 | StatBlock_Combatlog: |
| 17:02.41 | CIA-45 | - removed a debug statement |
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| 17:10.58 | CIA-45 | 03aiiane * r78929 10AiiDLink/AiiDLink.lua: AiiDLink: fix for enchant linking to properly support saved enchant refs |
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| 17:23.11 | digmouse | what is your local time in CST and CEST zone? |
| 17:23.57 | charon | Tue Jul 22 19:24:09 CEST 2008 |
| 17:24.56 | Primer | What rogue talent causes spells to be resisted in pvp? It seems that I mostly run into this issue of spell resist against rogues |
| 17:25.16 | NivFreak | cloak of shadows |
| 17:25.19 | Diskmaster | Linux polished_ruby 2.6.26 #9 SMP Wed Jul 16 19:58:01 CDT 2008 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 17:25.20 | NivFreak | :) |
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| 17:25.38 | Diskmaster | ... |
| 17:25.43 | Primer | Linux daniel.omnis.com 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 7 20:23:46 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:25.58 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 17:26.03 | Gnarfoz | Heightened Senses, Primer |
| 17:26.06 | Primer | I thought CoS only got dots off you and you stealthed |
| 17:26.08 | Gnarfoz | claok of shadows is not a talent |
| 17:26.10 | Gnarfoz | and it's pretty obvious when *that* is up |
| 17:26.19 | Pneumatus | cheating death? |
| 17:26.42 | Gnarfoz | Primer: huh? |
| 17:26.43 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: HUH? |
| 17:26.46 | Primer | no, I'm seeing contiguous resists |
| 17:26.46 | Gnarfoz | srsly :p |
| 17:26.55 | Primer | cast, resist, cast, resist, cast, resist |
| 17:27.09 | Gnarfoz | CloS removes any magic/disease/poison debuffs you currently have |
| 17:27.17 | Primer | right, I knew that |
| 17:27.18 | Gnarfoz | and raises your resist chance to 90% for 3 secons |
| 17:27.28 | Gnarfoz | *seconds |
| 17:27.34 | Primer | ahhh |
| 17:27.41 | Pneumatus | cheating death gives massive resists |
| 17:27.44 | Gnarfoz | I don't think you'r stupid enough to try casting anything on a rogue with CloS up ^ |
| 17:27.52 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: no it doesnt oO |
| 17:27.56 | Aiiane | did they change it Gnarfoz? Thought CoS was 5 seconds of resists |
| 17:28.01 | Primer | obviously I am |
| 17:28.28 | Primer | stupid enough, that is |
| 17:28.28 | Aiiane | "Instantly removes all existing harmful spell effects and increases your chance to resist all spells by 90% for 5 sec. Does not remove effects that prevent you from using Cloak of Shadows." |
| 17:28.32 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: ah yes, you're right |
| 17:28.51 | Gnarfoz | ah and maybe we can now finally usurp CoS for CloS |
| 17:28.57 | Gnarfoz | because the actual CoS is gone in 2.4.3 |
| 17:29.08 | NivFreak | haha |
| 17:29.11 | NivFreak | good choice blizzard |
| 17:29.17 | Gnarfoz | anyway Primer, it's more likely you're having bad luck? ^^ |
| 17:29.18 | Primer | so I'm a lock, and the rogue CoS == I'm fucked for 5 seconds? |
| 17:29.24 | Aiiane | pretty much, profalbert |
| 17:29.27 | Aiiane | er... Primer |
| 17:29.41 | Aiiane | <3 you too autocomplete, <3 you too |
| 17:29.44 | fewyn | :( my e: drive only has 200gb of space left! |
| 17:29.54 | Primer | has no drive letters |
| 17:30.12 | fewyn | because you're using tux |
| 17:30.17 | Aiiane | Primer, CoS was basically blizz's answer to rogues whining about how they're supposed to kill locks, but locks were killing them in s1 |
| 17:30.18 | fewyn | i'm on the doze atm |
| 17:30.30 | Aiiane | well, not s1, but pre-bc |
| 17:30.37 | Primer | Aiiane: I see. I missed S1, wasn't 70 |
| 17:30.50 | Aiiane | pre-bc i mean, cos existed before arena started :P |
| 17:31.12 | Primer | Got Challenger in from S2, lasted throughout S3, lost it in S4 |
| 17:31.34 | Primer | Do people with pvp drakes lose them if they don't maintain their ratings? |
| 17:31.38 | Aiiane | i havent bothered to arena with my lock this season |
| 17:31.41 | NivFreak | sooo |
| 17:31.45 | Aiiane | no Primer |
| 17:31.50 | Aiiane | once you have one it's yours for life |
| 17:31.56 | Primer | it's what I'm mostly concentrating on |
| 17:31.56 | NivFreak | we finally have enough hearts to kill mother shahraz |
| 17:32.03 | NivFreak | how many of her original bugs does she still do? |
| 17:32.08 | Primer | last night I was in a crappy 5's team just to make sure I didn't lose out on points |
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| 17:32.19 | NivFreak | does she still FA people into chairs? |
| 17:32.26 | NivFreak | FA the MT? |
| 17:32.28 | NivFreak | punt the MT? |
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| 17:34.55 | Gnarfoz | Saber Lash: Frontal cleave attack for 85% more damage of her normal attack. The damage is divided up evenly among 3 targets (including the main tank) for 76000-84000 Physical damage in a 20 yard range. Immunity from all Beams and Fatal Attraction is granted for 30 seconds. |
| 17:35.59 | Gnarfoz | couches of death are still an issue though, NivFreak |
| 17:39.18 | NivFreak | k |
| 17:39.27 | NivFreak | I know that you aren't supposed to have tanks FA'd |
| 17:39.33 | NivFreak | but there was some of that going on at one point |
| 17:40.10 | vithos | FA targets can get ported into the tanks (and raid) sometimes, but i've never seen the tank get selected |
| 17:42.36 | CIA-45 | 03yssaril * r78930 10AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets/AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets/AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 17:42.36 | CIA-45 | AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets: |
| 17:42.36 | CIA-45 | - made the internal media lists available globally under |
| 17:42.36 | CIA-45 | AceGUIWidgetLSMlists.font, AceGUIWidgetLSMlists.sound, |
| 17:42.36 | CIA-45 | AceGUIWidgetLSMlists.statusbar, AceGUIWidgetLSMlists.border, and |
| 17:42.38 | CIA-45 | AceGUIWidgetLSMlists.background now you can just pull from those table directly |
| 17:42.42 | CIA-45 | in your Ace3 optiontree and don't have to generate and maintain your own local |
| 17:43.15 | NeoTron | Yssaril: do those work with Ace3 config too then I agather? |
| 17:43.34 | Yssaril | always have but you had to generate your own lists now you dont :P |
| 17:43.46 | NeoTron | well I never new that package existed |
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| 17:43.52 | NeoTron | so I meant as a general note on the addon |
| 17:44.01 | NeoTron | I rolled my own for MagicTargets |
| 17:44.17 | NivFreak | NeoTron: hey, I'm starting to use magicmarker again |
| 17:44.18 | NeoTron | wants beta zomg. |
| 17:44.39 | NeoTron | I can tell you this much - it works nicely with multiple people marking now |
| 17:44.51 | NivFreak | NeoTron: great, I'm going to start having all my tanks use it |
| 17:45.10 | NeoTron | granted, of course, that only one person marks at the same time |
| 17:45.17 | NivFreak | one thing I noticed |
| 17:45.27 | NivFreak | if you have a CC type defined, but no raid marks for it |
| 17:45.35 | NivFreak | you end up with unmarked targets |
| 17:45.46 | NivFreak | for example, I ran a TK pug last night |
| 17:45.50 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 17:45.54 | NivFreak | and I had sheep targets defined, and tank targets |
| 17:45.56 | NeoTron | it should fall back to tank targets |
| 17:46.00 | NivFreak | plenty of marks to cover them with all of that |
| 17:46.01 | NeoTron | but it's possible that's broken |
| 17:46.04 | NivFreak | but fear was an option |
| 17:46.14 | NivFreak | It took me a while to figure out what was up |
| 17:46.21 | NivFreak | basically until I turned on full debugging |
| 17:46.24 | NeoTron | leaving them unmarked is bizarre |
| 17:46.24 | NivFreak | it was being marked for fear |
| 17:46.32 | NivFreak | and I had no raid marks defined for fear |
| 17:46.39 | kalahassi | how can i move the worldstateframe that shows who controls which tower in zangar marsh? it overlaps with my unitframes |
| 17:46.39 | NivFreak | it's certainly a bug, you should check it out |
| 17:46.44 | NeoTron | yeah that sounds wrong |
| 17:46.53 | NeoTron | it's supposed to fall back to tank if there's no CC targets (left) |
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| 17:46.55 | NivFreak | if your debugging makes it to the chat log |
| 17:46.57 | NivFreak | I can send it over |
| 17:47.00 | NeoTron | maybe there's an issue if there's none |
| 17:47.05 | NeoTron | hmm probably doesn't |
| 17:47.07 | NivFreak | there were tank targets left |
| 17:47.16 | NivFreak | as soon as I removed fear from my CC types |
| 17:47.19 | NivFreak | it worked fine |
| 17:47.19 | NeoTron | I've been thinking about adding a "debug log" that saves the last X messages in a cut and pastable box |
| 17:47.22 | Yssaril | NeoTron: http://wowace.com/wiki/AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets <-- updated with cahnges |
| 17:47.29 | Yssaril | *changes |
| 17:47.54 | NivFreak | NeoTron: that would be useful, maybe just store the last 1-2 sets of debug messages (while your modifier is down) |
| 17:48.04 | NeoTron | Yssaril: that is A LOT better than the crap I rolled on my own |
| 17:48.09 | NeoTron | Yssaril: I'll adjus twhen I get time |
| 17:48.13 | NivFreak | NeoTron: but yea, I confirmed from your debug info that it was trying to assign it a fear mark, and I had none defined |
| 17:48.26 | NeoTron | just weird it didn't fall back to tank targets |
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| 17:48.40 | Yssaril | NeoTron: hehe i was extreamly bored one night and everything kinda fell into place |
| 17:48.43 | NeoTron | I guess I tend to always have more raid marks than I have need for so yeah I probably broke that aspect |
| 17:49.01 | NivFreak | NeoTron: yea, I just haven't use it anywhere were we use fear on engage |
| 17:49.05 | Funkeh` | what's the max gold cap again |
| 17:49.12 | NivFreak | I tend to use fear as a backup CC |
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| 17:49.40 | NeoTron | 214748.3647 |
| 17:49.51 | NivFreak | NeoTron: have you considered per-instance CC priorities? |
| 17:49.57 | NeoTron | 214748g 36s 47c |
| 17:50.13 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I haven't no |
| 17:50.22 | NeoTron | NivFreak: but cc priorities are profiled |
| 17:50.29 | NeoTron | so you can have a 5 man profile and a raid profiel for example |
| 17:50.39 | NeoTron | same with raid marks |
| 17:51.00 | NivFreak | is the mob database independant of that? |
| 17:51.31 | NeoTron | yep |
| 17:51.34 | NivFreak | ok, that'll work |
| 17:51.44 | NeoTron | figured it's too much data to have multiple copies of :) |
| 17:51.51 | NivFreak | fear is a pretty reasonable CC in hyjal, where I don't find it to be in TK at all |
| 17:51.55 | NivFreak | and rarely in BT |
| 17:52.03 | NivFreak | NeoTron: yea, I think that was a good choice |
| 17:52.04 | NeoTron | yep |
| 17:52.12 | NeoTron | we use it in SWP at times |
| 17:52.16 | NeoTron | packs are reasonbly separated |
| 17:52.24 | NeoTron | but I never assign it there really |
| 17:52.49 | NivFreak | yea, you can fear on the scout trash fairly reliably |
| 17:53.00 | NivFreak | and the trash pull before them |
| 17:53.10 | NivFreak | I've never done trash past kalecgos :) |
| 17:53.15 | NivFreak | some day! |
| 17:53.32 | eliteevil | <- was the sacrificial tank for twins trash |
| 17:53.41 | NeoTron | past kalecogs there's one robot and one group of 6 |
| 17:53.47 | NeoTron | then theer's no trash until the gauntlet |
| 17:54.06 | eliteevil | "exploding imps, lets go hug them!" |
| 17:55.59 | NeoTron | such a hard job that is ;-) |
| 17:56.06 | eliteevil | lol |
| 17:57.38 | DragonWin | I'm trying to create a slide frame for a scroll frame ... but I can't get the ThumbTexture to show. what am I missing ? link to Screenshot at the bottom of the pastey http://ace.pastey.net/92218 |
| 17:57.42 | NeoTron | <3 mac os X - "sudo port install xemacs" ftw |
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| 18:04.50 | harldephin | dude.. which of my plenty of add-ons is playing that gong sound when entering clearcasting state..? |
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| 18:05.50 | kaiden_ | Anyone know what the url is to activate the lich king beta key? |
| 18:06.21 | DragonWin | sorry no, seems they "forgot" to mail me my key ;-) |
| 18:06.28 | NivFreak | kaiden_: send me it and i'll do it for you |
| 18:06.29 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 18:06.40 | kaiden_ | NivFreak, how about... no :P |
| 18:06.43 | Stanzilla | kaiden_ got his key! rape him! |
| 18:06.43 | NivFreak | awww |
| 18:07.09 | kaiden_ | actually stan, my partner got his, i'm just trying to activate it for him we didn't get the url though heh |
| 18:07.12 | NivFreak | I've got someone who offered to give me access to thier beta account, but I really want to copy my toons over ;) |
| 18:07.21 | sb | key?? where? |
| 18:07.22 | NivFreak | kaiden_: just got to your account |
| 18:07.25 | NivFreak | er |
| 18:07.26 | NivFreak | go to |
| 18:07.26 | sb | wtb :p |
| 18:07.27 | Dezzimal | did they mail them now kaiden? |
| 18:07.46 | kaiden_ | no, this was a friend who was given a few extra keys to hand out to his friends |
| 18:07.48 | kaiden_ | so he gave us one |
| 18:07.56 | Dezzimal | k |
| 18:08.08 | Dezzimal | I still haven't heard of anyone getting mailed anything |
| 18:08.30 | Dezzimal | I need to get my dk into northrend range before the flood of optins get in |
| 18:10.18 | Dezzimal | one more level till 68, but I'm supposed to wait till 69 to actually do it |
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| 18:10.27 | Dezzimal | because I'll run out of quests supposedly |
| 18:11.51 | Primer | Can pet abilities be toggled via macros? |
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| 18:12.21 | Primer | for example, I want to toggle my Fel Hunter's Devour Magic ability between auto and off |
| 18:12.56 | Civrock | Is there a working version of Bartender for WotLK Beta somewhere? |
| 18:13.00 | Dezzimal | no |
| 18:13.12 | Dezzimal | its broken till blizzard fixes the stuff they fucked with :/ |
| 18:13.18 | Civrock | Oh, QQ. |
| 18:14.42 | NeoTron | so I thought with wotlk there would be fewer gems due to stat consolidation |
| 18:14.56 | Dezzimal | yes |
| 18:15.01 | Dezzimal | hit is all one gem |
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| 18:15.11 | Dezzimal | healing/spellpower are combined |
| 18:16.09 | Aeyan | They converting existing gems? |
| 18:16.49 | fewyn | yes |
| 18:16.51 | fewyn | in 3.0 |
| 18:18.07 | NeoTron | they just have more combos |
| 18:18.33 | NeoTron | like agi + mp5, armor penetration, expertise etc |
| 18:18.59 | Aeyan | agi + mp5, joy |
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| 18:20.55 | NeoTron | didn't say they are all good |
| 18:20.56 | DragonWin | I'm trying to create a slide frame for a scroll frame ... but I can't get the ThumbTexture to show. what am I missing ? link to Screenshot at the bottom of the pastey http://ace.pastey.net/92218 |
| 18:21.02 | NeoTron | they better make it so gems aren't all BoE world drops |
| 18:21.15 | Aiiane | heh, yeah... that's a pain with JC |
| 18:21.18 | NivFreak | lol |
| 18:21.21 | NeoTron | I hated that in BC - all blue gems were random drops except a very few named boss ones. None really were rep |
| 18:21.29 | NivFreak | yea |
| 18:21.30 | NivFreak | crappy |
| 18:21.40 | NivFreak | I can cut all the epic gems, and very few of the blue ones |
| 18:22.05 | NeoTron | I have enough blue ones to make sellable ones of each kind but yeah |
| 18:22.08 | chiper | thinking I'm going to stop leveling my druid and warlock when they hit 60. |
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| 18:22.25 | chiper | hold out for that xp requirement drop |
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| 18:26.58 | vithos | Primer: /petautocaston /petautocastoff |
| 18:27.34 | vithos | oh and /petautocasttoggle |
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| 18:33.59 | Primer | vithos: thanks! |
| 18:34.04 | Kolie | yay for the addon list. yay for NOT auto installing updates :) |
| 18:36.09 | Primer | I find it odd that so many macros have modifiers |
| 18:36.20 | Aiiane | why? |
| 18:36.32 | Primer | in a fast paced arena, who has time to "click" on a button? |
| 18:36.34 | Primer | seriously |
| 18:36.54 | Primer | I never click on _anything_. All my spell casts are keyboard combos |
| 18:37.50 | Gnarfoz | ? modifiers are no just :button2, you know? |
| 18:38.16 | Primer | [modifier:alt] <-- is what I was referring to |
| 18:38.24 | Gnarfoz | so? what has that to do with clicking? |
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| 18:38.43 | Gnarfoz | you can just use that and alt-whatever-key-that-slot-is-bound-to |
| 18:38.59 | Primer | quote: If clicked while "Alt" is being pressed, it will cancel the previous focus and assign a new focus on your current target. |
| 18:39.00 | Gnarfoz | instead of creating several action bars |
| 18:39.19 | Primer | I have several action bars |
| 18:39.26 | Primer | all of which are assigned key combos |
| 18:39.30 | Gnarfoz | I don't I have 2. |
| 18:39.51 | Gnarfoz | that which doesn't fit into those 2, is solved by using macros with modifiers, and no, I don't click anything, either ;) |
| 18:39.57 | Primer | it's either 1-6, shift 1-6, control 1-6, or alt 1-6 |
| 18:41.20 | Primer | where shift/control/alt are actually done by my mouse |
| 18:42.15 | Primer | speaking of which, I've finally been able to get that same functionality in Linux using btnx |
| 18:42.24 | Primer | I foresee btnx as being a 'standard' for mouse usage in X soon |
| 18:42.39 | Aiiane | Primer - [modifier:alt] will also work for keypresses |
| 18:42.49 | Aiiane | i.e. if i have the macro bound to Q |
| 18:42.53 | Aiiane | and I press alt-Q |
| 18:42.58 | Aiiane | it will trigger that modifier condition |
| 18:43.04 | Yasuo | hello, any1 knows an alternate to SuperMacro? i cannot run its macros through /command |
| 18:43.17 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: which is exactly what I've been trying to convey to him ;) |
| 18:43.25 | Primer | all it needs are profiles based on active window and it will work exactly like Logitech's setpoint in windows, except it'll work with any mouse |
| 18:43.55 | Primer | Aiiane: yes, I'm beginning to see the usefulness of that |
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| 18:44.47 | Gagorian | !ar 1423 |
| 18:44.48 | Xinhuan | 1423 arena points require 2471(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 18:44.53 | Gagorian | !ap 1423 |
| 18:44.53 | Xinhuan | 1423 rating gives 327(5s), 287(3s) and 248(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 18:45.28 | Primer | I'm working on getting a perfect macro for clicking on an arena opponent in proximo and setting it as my focus and making my fel hunter stick to him and such |
| 18:49.45 | fewyn | yay |
| 18:49.48 | fewyn | epice world drop |
| 18:49.52 | fewyn | epic* |
| 18:50.28 | Tenchworks | well looks like the whining about WoWace upgrades has spread to other sites and now people are praising wow matrix..... |
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| 18:50.47 | Tenchworks | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=10601.0 |
| 18:51.19 | Aiiane | meh |
| 18:51.29 | Aiiane | they'll stop praising it when everything on wowace disappears from it |
| 18:51.34 | nevcairiel | tell them that wowwatrix will stop to function too |
| 18:51.42 | nevcairiel | at least for wowace stuff |
| 18:53.03 | Tenchworks | what I don't get is why they think curse is evil like it where EA or something worse |
| 18:53.03 | Dashkal | Oh thar it is! |
| 18:53.03 | Dashkal | I was looking for that drama |
| 18:53.03 | Tenchworks | wha? |
| 18:53.07 | Tenchworks | looking for drama? |
| 18:53.10 | Dashkal | lol |
| 18:53.11 | Tenchworks | that can't be good |
| 18:53.11 | sb | hm |
| 18:53.17 | Dashkal | More that I was expecting it |
| 18:53.19 | sb | curse key give-away page is gone? |
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| 18:55.57 | NeoTron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5I-jMKfYGQ hmm |
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| 18:57.07 | cubicool | I'm reading something about the transition here where someone says the curse updater client is totally whacked--is that accurate, or just one person's bad experience? |
| 18:58.13 | Pneumatus | sb: its still showing on http://wow.curseforge.com/ |
| 18:58.17 | cubicool | (I'd install myself and see, but I'm at work and we use Linux machines here... :)) |
| 18:58.33 | sb | hm right Pneumatus |
| 18:59.29 | Primer | what's all this about? |
| 18:59.52 | Primer | no more updates from files.wowace.com? Does this affect jwu? |
| 18:59.57 | Tenchworks | the curse client in current form is clucnky, but the version they are beta testing is actually a major upgrade |
| 19:00.10 | cubicool | Is the client open source? |
| 19:00.29 | Tenchworks | no not that i know of |
| 19:00.41 | Tenchworks | but they are planning to make it cross-platform |
| 19:00.49 | Pneumatus | the WAU client or the curse client? |
| 19:00.52 | Tenchworks | window-mac-linux |
| 19:01.02 | Tenchworks | curse client |
| 19:01.04 | Primer | All I really care about is jwu |
| 19:01.05 | NeoTron | also I bet jwu and such can adapt to the new world of wowace |
| 19:01.17 | NeoTron | but they will have to adapt |
| 19:01.31 | NeoTron | the main "external addon" stuff today is that you have to enter the ID manually |
| 19:01.34 | Primer | how soon? Is the feed from files.wowace.com already gone? |
| 19:01.41 | NeoTron | it's not gone |
| 19:01.46 | NeoTron | I dunno what the timeline is |
| 19:02.12 | Tenchworks | Primer: give this a read for all the info http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 |
| 19:02.41 | Pneumatus | from what Kaelten was saying, i dont think files.wowace is going anywhere, but the svn will be frozen at some point meaning files will never update in that particular form |
| 19:02.56 | Tenchworks | files.wowace.com will be made read only mid august and then I think it will be closed shortly after the move |
| 19:02.59 | CIA-45 | 03trasher * r78931 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 19:02.59 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:02.59 | CIA-45 | - frFR fix |
| 19:03.48 | Tenchworks | it will be accesible but not in it's current form if i understood right |
| 19:03.49 | Primer | No differentiation between stable and beta builds. <-- ain't that the truth! |
| 19:04.41 | NeoTron | I believe the transition will be sort of painful but the end result better |
| 19:04.47 | Primer | I agree |
| 19:06.05 | Tenchworks | the point of it is to make it easier on them with bandwith and make mod development better in general. |
| 19:06.13 | Primer | sure |
| 19:06.22 | Primer | I believe this is necessary |
| 19:07.25 | Tenchworks | and with the upcoming site changes to both curse and wowace, all non coders will be able to get thier mods easier and without as much site lock-ups on patch days |
| 19:07.25 | Primer | I wonder what it'll take to get developers to start cutting releases |
| 19:07.35 | Primer | as opposed to just doing everything in trunk |
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| 19:10.10 | Primer | I also wonder how that'll be done. Cut all releases into tags? How do updaters get the latest? |
| 19:10.24 | Primer | determine the latest |
| 19:10.38 | Aiiane | well |
| 19:10.49 | Aiiane | I believe CurseForge does release syndication only with tags |
| 19:10.55 | Aiiane | so that would be a fairly decent impetus :P |
| 19:11.06 | NeoTron | I hope there will be a non-tagged "development build" too |
| 19:11.10 | NeoTron | that just is the same as files today |
| 19:11.15 | NeoTron | with beta/release versions too |
| 19:12.03 | Aiiane | NeoTron - basically, if you tag anything with a name that look slike vX.Y-release, or vX.Y-beta they're released as that |
| 19:12.09 | Aiiane | otherwise I think it defaults to alpha status |
| 19:12.12 | Aiiane | unless you tell it otherwise |
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| 19:12.14 | Primer | it'll be nice if all this could be managed directly from SVN |
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| 19:12.26 | Aiiane | it can be |
| 19:12.28 | Primer | I never liked cutting a zip and uploading it to curse |
| 19:12.28 | Aiiane | ^ |
| 19:12.45 | Aiiane | if you make a tag like that, and name it -release or just with a version number |
| 19:12.52 | Aiiane | it should be packaged and syndicated automatically |
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| 19:13.08 | Aiiane | or at least, that's what I'm gathering from ckknight |
| 19:13.09 | Primer | only thing would be the description |
| 19:13.12 | Dashkal | a commit to trunk generates an alpha zip. a tag like v1.0 or 2.0 or v2.5-release is a release. any other tag is a beta |
| 19:13.12 | NeoTron | Aiiane: I know that. I'm just curious if "alpha" will be automatic without tagging |
| 19:13.17 | Primer | I guess it could get it from the commit |
| 19:13.29 | Primer | or perhaps some svn prop |
| 19:13.29 | Aiiane | 10[12:11] Dashkal: 01a commit to trunk generates an alpha zip |
| 19:13.34 | Aiiane | theres your answer NeoTron :P |
| 19:13.39 | NeoTron | I saw it |
| 19:13.39 | Dashkal | Aiiane: you have strange colors... |
| 19:13.41 | ckknight | oh, I also made it so if the tag says "stable", it'll be marked as release |
| 19:13.54 | Aiiane | no Dashkal, i just have an irc client that handles its own colors in strange ways |
| 19:14.00 | Primer | yeah, I had to highlight that to see the text |
| 19:14.18 | Aeyan | Only end result I see out of this is that I'll switch back to embedded style and download my addons in a favorites page layout for updates, like I do with wowinterface now |
| 19:14.20 | Aiiane | my colors are just black text on a white background |
| 19:14.23 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.23 | Primer | <Aiiane> [12:11] Dashkal: <-- was all I could see |
| 19:14.29 | Aiiane | but apparently it doesnt properly set the background |
| 19:14.29 | Tenchworks | ack black on black don't work for me |
| 19:14.31 | Aeyan | I don't use as many addons as I used to, I guess, but I don't really see a major problem here |
| 19:14.47 | NeoTron | Aeyan: disembedded should still work |
| 19:14.52 | Aeyan | I'm sure it will |
| 19:15.00 | NeoTron | I assume it'll be automatic |
| 19:15.01 | Aeyan | But that would require downloading the libraries one by one too =P |
| 19:15.13 | NeoTron | ^^^ that |
| 19:15.27 | Primer | ckknight: where would the description come from for the file page? |
| 19:15.27 | Aeyan | Embedded would be easier on my clicking finger, hehe |
| 19:15.35 | Tenchworks | I think libaries are embeded by defualt |
| 19:15.38 | ckknight | Primer: not sure... |
| 19:15.39 | NeoTron | but my point is it should (still) be automatic |
| 19:15.48 | Aiiane | so, how long do you think before someone retorts angrily to this: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=10601.msg158344#msg158344 |
| 19:15.52 | Tenchworks | with an option in the client to have them disembeded |
| 19:15.53 | Aeyan | Automatically embedded, yes |
| 19:16.24 | NeoTron | Aeyan: Yes. AND automatically DISembedded |
| 19:16.29 | NeoTron | just like WAU |
| 19:16.35 | Aeyan | That I doubt |
| 19:16.43 | NeoTron | <@Kolie> Both will be supported yes. |
| 19:17.05 | NeoTron | so doubt all you will but if Kolie says it's supported it's supported since he's writing it |
| 19:17.17 | Aeyan | What's he writing? |
| 19:17.22 | Aeyan | The curse client? |
| 19:17.25 | NeoTron | yes |
| 19:17.29 | Aeyan | Maybe so then |
| 19:17.36 | Primer | what's he writing it in? :) |
| 19:17.37 | Kolie | Its supported internally right now. |
| 19:17.39 | Kolie | C++ |
| 19:17.49 | NeoTron | C++ with vxWindows |
| 19:17.51 | NeoTron | no? |
| 19:17.53 | Primer | I was gonna say "Please don't say .net" |
| 19:18.03 | Primer | wxWindows? |
| 19:18.07 | Kolie | its in c++, I use many libraries, wxWindows being one of them. |
| 19:18.12 | Bibi | MMO-CHAMPION IS SLOW LOL |
| 19:18.14 | Bibi | :/ |
| 19:18.16 | Tornhoof | wxwidgets ;) |
| 19:18.18 | Kolie | I dont see why what window lib it uses is relevant :) |
| 19:18.29 | Primer | portability? |
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| 19:18.37 | NeoTron | ^^^ that |
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| 19:18.48 | Kolie | Portability was on of the original design goals of the rewrite. |
| 19:18.49 | Bibi | hugs Aiiane : replied and locked :p |
| 19:18.53 | Primer | write it in java with swt! |
| 19:18.54 | Primer | runs |
| 19:18.59 | NeoTron | if it used, say, win32 native gui crap it'd be a lot harder to port :P |
| 19:19.04 | Tornhoof | and wait 10 mins for an update? |
| 19:19.19 | Kolie | NeoTron, not if you code it right. |
| 19:19.29 | Kolie | The current 0.16.0 clients could be ported . |
| 19:19.59 | NeoTron | well it'd be a port with a whole new low level GUI |
| 19:20.08 | NeoTron | vs just using the same low level gui |
| 19:20.14 | NeoTron | so there's a difference, and a large one |
| 19:20.18 | NeoTron | even if you do it well |
| 19:20.19 | Primer | indeed |
| 19:20.35 | Tenchworks | WOOT thread got locked |
| 19:20.37 | Kolie | I suppose, the only functions I would have to change are the low level window creates, the draws, and the GetControl functions. |
| 19:20.52 | Kolie | Its abstracted quite nicely from the implementation. |
| 19:21.37 | Tenchworks | wonders how long till a new thread pops up whining about curse-wowace changes and how thier beloved WAU is dieing. |
| 19:22.30 | ckknight | Aiiane: why can't I reply? |
| 19:22.44 | ckknight | Bibi: aw, I wanted to reply |
| 19:22.49 | Aiiane | I was about to say |
| 19:22.52 | Aiiane | why are you asking me, lol |
| 19:22.57 | Primer | So is that giveaway URL in the topic a gag? |
| 19:22.59 | Primer | because it's 404 |
| 19:23.02 | Bibi | ckknight : don't troll my forums. |
| 19:23.03 | Bibi | :( |
| 19:23.08 | Bibi | Well, they're like, troll-land |
| 19:23.09 | Tenchworks | lol |
| 19:23.10 | Bibi | but still ! |
| 19:23.25 | Corgan | Bibi |
| 19:23.30 | Corgan | ilu |
| 19:23.48 | sb | ckknight: your latest cart changelog is broken :o |
| 19:23.51 | sb | 0.8 |
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| 19:24.55 | ckknight | sb: changelog? |
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| 19:25.10 | Tornhoof | i actually wonder how long it will take until someone finds a way to get the premium user client working without being premium user |
| 19:25.13 | ckknight | Bibi: I wasn't gonna troll, I was gonna respond to a troll about me specifically |
| 19:25.48 | ckknight | Bibi: specifically Nezola's "Even ever so many of ACEs developers are disliking ACE3, and not using it at all (including ckknight , according to himself on IRC :p)." |
| 19:26.04 | Tenchworks | ... |
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| 19:26.20 | ckknight | which is bullshit, me disliking Ace3 is separate from my relationship with wowace |
| 19:27.09 | ckknight | also, I helped write curseforge, and I think it's great (albeit needs improvement, which I'm doing now), so I'm very much for the wowace-on-curseforge move |
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| 19:29.37 | Aiiane | oh wow ckknight |
| 19:29.41 | Aiiane | i didnt even see that comment |
| 19:29.47 | sb | ckknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/files/176-v0-8/ |
| 19:29.52 | Aiiane | or else i would have had fun pointing out their error too :P |
| 19:30.30 | Cheads | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw15308.jpeg hmm the keybindings show up interestingly... anyone know what addon that is? |
| 19:30.38 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78932 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:30.38 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:30.38 | CIA-45 | - Localize an error message (L["SpellIDCache"]) needs translations please :) |
| 19:30.38 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 19:30.48 | Aiiane | bartender, Cheads |
| 19:30.53 | Cheads | thanks |
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| 19:31.08 | Aeyan | Ackis: Do you really need to put 'dry-coded' in every commit message at this point? =P |
| 19:31.28 | Hjalte | It seems that no matter what minimap addon I use, when I use a square minimap, it often changes to a circled minimap with a black edges. Anyone else experiencing that? |
| 19:31.40 | Aeyan | Nope, never had that happen |
| 19:31.46 | AckisWork | Aeyan: yes |
| 19:31.56 | Aeyan | and I've used a lot of minimap addons over time, hehe |
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| 19:36.20 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r78933 10HealGraph/ (Graph.lua HealGraph.lua IncomingDamage.lua): |
| 19:36.20 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 19:36.20 | CIA-45 | - added average amount to incoming damage |
| 19:36.20 | CIA-45 | - added average hit chance to incoming damage |
| 19:39.03 | Obelixprime | Is there a mod that will tell you which vanity pets you're missing? |
| 19:39.10 | Obelixprime | and where to get them? |
| 19:39.22 | NivFreak | Kolie: wtb mac updater preview |
| 19:40.08 | Quaiche | NivFreak: a friend of mine has one written in ruby that works against ace, wowi and one other. Simple command line tho |
| 19:40.09 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: not yet, warcraftpets.com |
| 19:40.16 | AckisWork | Zhinjio and I are going to write one however |
| 19:40.31 | NivFreak | Quaiche: I have a mac updater that works now :P |
| 19:40.34 | Obelixprime | oooh |
| 19:40.38 | NivFreak | I wante the curse beta updater |
| 19:40.41 | Obelixprime | great news AckisWork |
| 19:40.44 | NivFreak | built for mac |
| 19:40.48 | Quaiche | Not I... no curse for me. |
| 19:40.59 | Quaiche | Sorry Kaelten :) |
| 19:41.02 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: it'll include mounts and tabbards as well, maybe some other stuff |
| 19:41.03 | ZealotOnAStick | talk to Kolie on that. |
| 19:41.11 | NivFreak | I'd like to see if I need to look for new options now |
| 19:41.26 | NivFreak | ZealotOnAStick: I did :P |
| 19:41.43 | Kolie | Ill have a mac one but prolly not during beta unless im told specifically to make it compile on mac before hten. |
| 19:41.51 | ZealotOnAStick | well, keep in mind, it is still beta, and it's still evolving. Lots of feedback from yesterday. |
| 19:41.52 | ZealotOnAStick | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.59 | ZealotOnAStick | We need to test the mac release before release. |
| 19:42.02 | Kaelten | kolie: we should test it during the beta at some point. |
| 19:42.13 | Kolie | There will be a mac client beta AFAIK |
| 19:42.20 | Kolie | I never said there wouldnt be. |
| 19:42.44 | ZealotOnAStick | we'd be best off having it before the "release" of the PC client. Otherwise, we get pissy offended Mac users. |
| 19:42.52 | Quaiche | lol |
| 19:42.58 | Kaelten | and NivFreak will track you down and kill you |
| 19:43.04 | CIA-45 | 03sano * r78934 10/branches/LoggerHead/ (8 files in 2 dirs): LoggerHead: adjusting externals, adding locales |
| 19:43.07 | Kolie | Im making a Mac client and they are getting pissy? bugger off. |
| 19:43.29 | ZealotOnAStick | no, they'd get pissy about once again get shorted and the PC version being out before the mac version. |
| 19:43.31 | AckisWork | meh you know what they say about mac users |
| 19:43.32 | selckin | what lang is it written in? |
| 19:43.43 | Kolie | c++ |
| 19:43.44 | Kaelten | selckin: c++ w/ wxwidgets |
| 19:43.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Ackis: they have more money? |
| 19:43.50 | selckin | poor you |
| 19:43.56 | selckin | wx :\ |
| 19:43.59 | AckisWork | ZealotOnAStick: expensive paper weights? |
| 19:44.03 | Kolie | With the dev schedule im on its not making it for release two perfect versions. |
| 19:44.16 | Kolie | And i refuse to release a halfassed any platform version. |
| 19:44.52 | ZealotOnAStick | But, all I have to do it reboot to make it crash on OS X! |
| 19:45.16 | Obelixprime | AckisWork: eta? |
| 19:45.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Before Emerald Dream. |
| 19:45.54 | AckisWork | ^ |
| 19:46.06 | AckisWork | Uhmmm, there's no ETA |
| 19:46.06 | Kolie | wxWidgets is a fine library selckin. |
| 19:46.14 | AckisWork | no work has been started on it tbh |
| 19:46.24 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 19:46.25 | Obelixprime | ok |
| 19:46.30 | AckisWork | I'll probably leave it as a WotLK add-on with the changes to pets/mounts |
| 19:46.33 | AckisWork | make it automated |
| 19:47.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Just please don't call is "AckisVanityChecklist" or something. |
| 19:47.15 | AckisWork | Collectinator |
| 19:47.16 | AckisWork | :D |
| 19:47.30 | AckisWork | although having Ackis Recipe List has made me pseudo famous |
| 19:47.38 | AckisWork | too bad it's a shitty name |
| 19:47.41 | NivFreak | Kolie: have you tried to build it yet? :) |
| 19:48.01 | Kolie | Ive built the mac version several times. |
| 19:48.24 | Kolie | I can confirm it runs, installs addons, and updates them perfectly |
| 19:48.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Collectinator? Bleh. |
| 19:48.46 | NivFreak | Kolie: if you want a tester, I'm very interested |
| 19:48.48 | NivFreak | and forgiving |
| 19:48.53 | NivFreak | unless your name is Neotron |
| 19:49.15 | Kolie | NivFreak, I'll claim you on that one when we get closer to working on a mac release. |
| 19:49.45 | NivFreak | sounded like it works! :) |
| 19:50.28 | Kolie | It worked pre beta. |
| 19:50.31 | NivFreak | ah |
| 19:50.33 | Kolie | I havent compiled since. |
| 19:50.43 | AckisWork | ZealotOnAStick: Collectinator = win |
| 19:51.06 | NivFreak | I won't tell you how to run your projects, but if it builds without extra work I'm sure the mac community would respond kindly to even an alpha version |
| 19:51.21 | NivFreak | just so that they have some sense of how things will be changing |
| 19:51.26 | Dashkal | ~nickometer AckisRecipieList |
| 19:51.31 | AckisWork | ~arl |
| 19:51.32 | purl | arl is probably a poorly named add-on (8% lame), 94% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however, and where to get them |
| 19:51.40 | AckisWork | :P |
| 19:52.04 | Dashkal | Still think you should just combine them into a modular AckisOCD (who was it that suggested that name?) |
| 19:52.25 | Kolie | NivFreak, there are a few things that I implemented win specific that just dont exist. One of those is clicking install via curse client in a browser and picking it up in the client. |
| 19:52.41 | Kolie | The client would be quiet useless could you not install addons. |
| 19:52.42 | AckisWork | lol I think you did :P |
| 19:52.50 | AckisWork | ~nickometer AckisOCD |
| 19:52.54 | AckisWork | too lame |
| 19:52.55 | Dashkal | caps :p |
| 19:52.57 | Kolie | Theres a bit that needs a little attention. |
| 19:52.58 | NivFreak | Kolie: k |
| 19:53.02 | NivFreak | fair enough |
| 19:53.08 | Dashkal | ~nickometer AckisObsessiveMuch? |
| 19:53.15 | AckisWork | :P |
| 19:53.52 | Kolie | Im curious to see it compile though, because we made alot of graphical changes pre beta that im sure make the mac port look nice. ( it was fugly before ) |
| 19:54.07 | NeoTron | Kolie: fyi I can test a mac version of it too |
| 19:55.24 | NeoTron | Kolie: can't you just make it launch a file with a specific extension that is bound to the updater |
| 19:55.40 | Kolie | Programmatically, I dont know the function to do so under MAC. |
| 19:55.44 | NeoTron | well |
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| 19:55.56 | NeoTron | torrent files opened up in bitrocket automatically |
| 19:56.12 | NeoTron | or rather it was the default choice in firefox and I could make it permanent default |
| 19:56.15 | NeoTron | so it is possibler |
| 19:56.18 | Aiiane | I'm assuming there's some system call for "register extension" |
| 19:56.20 | Kolie | And right now, our installer handles it in windows. |
| 19:56.52 | Kolie | Im sure the call exists to, but thats not the only issue holding back a mac beta. |
| 19:56.56 | NeoTron | Kolie: "open" does too |
| 19:57.20 | NeoTron | you should outsource the mac porting to someone who uses a mac. /hint |
| 19:57.40 | Kolie | I have a mac. |
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| 19:57.48 | NeoTron | but you're busy with windows. heh |
| 19:57.51 | Kolie | Its sitting on my desk stairing at me. |
| 19:58.06 | Kolie | Actually, vista on the mac is staring at me. |
| 19:58.15 | Vulcanus | and osx on the pc |
| 19:58.19 | Kolie | Oh wait that one is XP. |
| 19:58.26 | Kolie | I have it for testing :) |
| 19:58.28 | Dashkal | Kolie: in linux you can tell firefox how to handle protocols, but I don't know myself how it's done. It isn't an OS level call, though could potentially be done at the level of KDE or GNOME |
| 19:58.35 | NeoTron | ofc I'm running os X on a windows pc, not a mac |
| 19:58.39 | chiper | wait, did you say that you can't do client urls on the mac? |
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| 19:58.56 | NeoTron | you can bind an extension to an app on the mac |
| 19:59.02 | Kolie | chiper: I said it doesnt currently do it, because Im not actively assigned to working on the mac version. |
| 19:59.07 | chiper | ah, ok |
| 19:59.17 | Kolie | It will have it when its out. |
| 19:59.23 | chiper | NeoTron: you can also assign url protocols just like on windows |
| 19:59.43 | chiper | I believe it's part of the application bundle's plist |
| 19:59.45 | AckisWork | anyone here have a general mayham account? |
| 19:59.53 | NeoTron | figured something as such |
| 20:00.15 | Kolie | and right now its NOT extension based. |
| 20:00.20 | Kolie | its url handler based. |
| 20:00.26 | NeoTron | ah |
| 20:00.33 | chiper | yes, that's what I mean, url handler. |
| 20:00.43 | chiper | I THINK that's plist based, I'd have to google to find out |
| 20:01.39 | Aiiane | and then of course there's the alternate horrible-hack solution which is to have the client run a miniwebserver on some obtuse port and all links point to localhost:38432?fetchurl=curse.com/whatever/whatever :P |
| 20:01.56 | Aiiane | (please don't do that >.>) |
| 20:01.59 | Kolie | I dont see why thats a hack solution :) |
| 20:02.29 | chiper | eww |
| 20:02.33 | Vulcanus | Im just glad it just works on windows |
| 20:02.34 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 20:02.55 | Kolie | The IPC will be udp socket based on macs and windows in the near future. |
| 20:03.00 | Vulcanus | I might stuff osx on my laptop at some point tho |
| 20:03.59 | Kolie | Yea confirmed, plist can do url handling. |
| 20:04.23 | NeoTron | so I hope by the time files.wowace.com goes away mac support will be in? |
| 20:04.30 | NeoTron | otherwise that'll suck :P |
| 20:05.13 | NivFreak | s/suck/riot/ |
| 20:05.44 | NivFreak | I should probably just write an updater that pulls straight from svn/git |
| 20:05.48 | NivFreak | off trunk |
| 20:06.04 | NivFreak | that'll make people happy ;) |
| 20:06.20 | Kolie | Auto update toggle rleease in 1.0.3.3 ( available from the auto updater ;) ) |
| 20:06.25 | ZealotOnAStick | <sarcasm>We plan to release the Mac support Real Soon Now, and the Linux client will be released sometime later, but it'll be a sourceless binary compiled on whatever distro we have handy that day, stuck in some obscure path you have to do logarithmic extrapolation to find.</sarcasm> |
| 20:06.41 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: sounds like Ventrilo |
| 20:06.48 | NivFreak | grr |
| 20:06.52 | NivFreak | freaking ventrilo |
| 20:07.04 | NivFreak | why can't the give me a decent mac client |
| 20:07.08 | NeoTron | but really, mac support before wowace flips is almost necessary or a lot of people will have no viable option |
| 20:07.17 | chiper | found it. you need a CFBundleURLTypes entry in the Info.plist for the app bundle |
| 20:07.21 | Kolie | yea |
| 20:07.35 | NivFreak | NeoTron: Kaelten assured me that it would happen, hopefully he didn't lie to me ;) |
| 20:07.35 | Kolie | URLName, URLIconFile, and a URLSchemes for each document. |
| 20:07.40 | kenlyric | they had a viable option before? |
| 20:07.48 | NivFreak | kenlyric: JWU is the best updater out there |
| 20:07.53 | NivFreak | imo |
| 20:07.57 | kenlyric | doesn't it run on a mac? |
| 20:08.01 | Kolie | its java. |
| 20:08.02 | NivFreak | yes.... |
| 20:08.03 | NivFreak | java |
| 20:08.07 | kenlyric | it can pull from any of the three big UI sites |
| 20:08.07 | NeoTron | jwu works fine |
| 20:08.16 | NivFreak | kenlyric: yes |
| 20:08.25 | NivFreak | it was the first to iirc |
| 20:08.33 | kenlyric | it's clunky, but they aren't without viable option |
| 20:08.51 | NeoTron | Kolie: so one thing that makes jwu (and wau as well) good is that they automatically update my ace addons... does curse do that too do will I have to manually add every addon? |
| 20:08.59 | NivFreak | JWU is clunky? |
| 20:09.10 | NeoTron | kenlyric: remove the "wowace" aspect from JWU and it's not a viable option |
| 20:09.11 | kenlyric | the non-wowace setup is |
| 20:09.17 | Kolie | NeoTron, it can auto update yes. |
| 20:09.17 | kenlyric | sure it is |
| 20:09.18 | NivFreak | NeoTron: if you don't pay, you have to click update on every addon |
| 20:09.19 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:09.25 | NivFreak | (seriously) |
| 20:09.27 | kenlyric | I get all my non-wowace mods from jwu |
| 20:09.29 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I'll pay (seriously) |
| 20:09.32 | NivFreak | so will I |
| 20:09.41 | NivFreak | but I bet most of my guild won't |
| 20:09.47 | NivFreak | in fact, I know they won't |
| 20:09.47 | NeoTron | unless it's unreasonbly expensive |
| 20:09.55 | Kolie | Its something on the order of a few dollars. |
| 20:09.59 | NivFreak | wow has become an expensive hobby |
| 20:10.02 | NeoTron | updates will be fewer |
| 20:10.08 | NivFreak | WWS, Ventrilo, site hosting fees |
| 20:10.11 | NeoTron | since most people wouldn't want alpha level code |
| 20:10.16 | NivFreak | now I'll have to pay for my updater too |
| 20:10.25 | NeoTron | I pay for WWS, vent and site hosting with member donations |
| 20:10.32 | NivFreak | I pay them all myself |
| 20:10.32 | Kolie | NivFreak, it will provide every feature the current client does for free |
| 20:10.34 | NeoTron | think the guild account balance is like $400 or so |
| 20:10.37 | Kolie | premium is largely convenience. |
| 20:10.41 | ZealotOnAStick | I eventually need to get around to setting up a donation link for our guild site. |
| 20:10.44 | NivFreak | Kolie: I have no idea what the current client provides |
| 20:10.59 | Kolie | NiVfreak, it will tell you something is updted, youll hve to click update though. |
| 20:10.59 | NeoTron | I used to but then I thought, we have 40 raiders and like 50 other members at least, why not share the pain |
| 20:11.04 | VonhintenHOME` | My wow money goes no further than my 2 account monthly fees |
| 20:11.06 | NeoTron | put up a paypal donation button and yeah |
| 20:11.08 | VonhintenHOME` | I won't pay for anything else |
| 20:11.13 | ZealotOnAStick | I've been paying for our web host for like a year now out of my own pocket. |
| 20:11.50 | NivFreak | I just bought 50 HoD for my guild on my own dime |
| 20:11.56 | NivFreak | I'm so low on gold now |
| 20:11.59 | NeoTron | that's your problem! |
| 20:12.03 | Kolie | If your paying more then a few bucks a month for a website, your overpaying :) |
| 20:12.06 | NeoTron | are you like their nanny or something? |
| 20:12.09 | NivFreak | I'm sick of farming for heart, mother must die |
| 20:12.19 | NeoTron | I pay $30 / month |
| 20:12.20 | NivFreak | hearts even |
| 20:12.29 | NivFreak | I think I pay $120 a year? |
| 20:12.36 | NeoTron | sharing the copst with a friend for a linux box with unmetered 10 Mbps connection |
| 20:12.36 | NivFreak | and I host more than guild sites |
| 20:12.51 | NivFreak | my colo'd box had a little accident |
| 20:12.54 | NeoTron | s/copst/cost/ |
| 20:13.10 | NivFreak | it had two drives die, and the guy who was bringing it back to me rolled his car with it inside... |
| 20:13.18 | Arrowmaster | my guild has 2 different sites, well one website and one ftp were we upload combatlogs |
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| 20:13.33 | NeoTron | mine isn't colocated but rented, if you wish |
| 20:13.38 | Arrowmaster | the ftp is completely free since its on a friend of a friends server |
| 20:13.54 | NivFreak | I just picked up a dreamhost account to tide me over |
| 20:13.57 | NeoTron | heh when I still joined logs, someone just emailed them to me |
| 20:14.02 | NivFreak | while I figure out what I'm going to build next |
| 20:14.04 | NeoTron | googledrive! |
| 20:14.07 | Diao | lol |
| 20:14.16 | Diao | one of my guildies/friends owns a webhosting company |
| 20:14.22 | Diao | so we get our site for free |
| 20:14.25 | Diao | just have to pay for vent |
| 20:14.36 | NivFreak | vent prices are so stupid... |
| 20:14.37 | NeoTron | still there's no reason to pay for it out of your own pocked unless you want to |
| 20:14.48 | NeoTron | only reason I did was because I didn't think to ask for help |
| 20:15.01 | NeoTron | basically I paid the webhosting, another dude vent and a third one the WWS |
| 20:15.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah the ftp is on a domain that myself and a friend used to use for a small project and we still use it for our personal emails |
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| 20:15.38 | NeoTron | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/items/rare/rareitem_072.jpg holy druid neck |
| 20:15.51 | Diao | lol |
| 20:15.52 | NeoTron | first neck with armor? |
| 20:17.12 | Dashkal | oooo, my bear set wants that neck |
| 20:17.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Mmmm, I don't think so. |
| 20:17.22 | ZealotOnAStick | I could be wrong though. I know there've been various rings with armor. |
| 20:17.28 | NeoTron | rings I know |
| 20:17.30 | NeoTron | not sure about neck |
| 20:17.45 | ZealotOnAStick | neck makes slightly more sense, really. |
| 20:17.52 | Dashkal | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.-3&filter=cr=41;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 20:17.59 | Dashkal | Nothing |
| 20:18.02 | ZealotOnAStick | some of the things I've seen girls wearing around here probably provide more protection than the rest of their clothing combined. |
| 20:18.10 | NeoTron | there are indeed none |
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| 20:18.36 | Dashkal | Rings make more sense to me than the female version of 'full plate'. At least rings tend to be magic |
| 20:19.10 | NeoTron | and full plate isn't? ;-) |
| 20:19.17 | NeoTron | obviously the rest of the armor is invisible |
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| 20:20.20 | Arrowmaster | female versions of 'full plate' provide extra protection from its distraction rating |
| 20:21.22 | EvilJohn- | the plate only covers the vulnerable parts of her body |
| 20:21.43 | Aiiane | -_- |
| 20:22.17 | Aiiane | All I can say is sometimes I thank god for tabards :P |
| 20:24.10 | kenlyric | there's one piece of gear which is equally distrubing and sexual on males as it is on females. |
| 20:24.38 | kenlyric | http://media.abels.us/games/wow/prettiest_2007-06-01_stilltheprettiest.jpg |
| 20:24.45 | kenlyric | but it's possible it only looks like this on belf males |
| 20:25.05 | Arrowmaster | no i think it looks like that on taurens too |
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| 20:25.19 | VonhintenHOME` | "Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me" |
| 20:25.36 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 20:26.39 | CIA-45 | 03sano * r78935 10/branches/LoggerHead/ (Libs/ LoggerHead.toc): LoggerHead: Updated external properties |
| 20:26.50 | Aiiane | what the heck item is that kenlyric? |
| 20:29.13 | Dashkal | I swear I've seen that someplace... |
| 20:29.33 | CIA-45 | 03sano 07Libs * r78936 10LoggerHead/: Loggerhead: misspelled LibBabble-Zone-3.0 in external properties |
| 20:30.58 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm curious, why should someone bother putting their addon on curse forge if the end result is people will be paying for the ease to download it... |
| 20:31.08 | VonhintenHOME` | when there are things like google code out there |
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| 20:32.11 | EvilJohn- | there's free access to curse downloads |
| 20:32.21 | EvilJohn- | and that will continue in the new updater |
| 20:32.35 | EvilJohn- | (that was in yesterday's chat) |
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| 20:32.53 | VonhintenHOME` | Sure, but in terms of what people have come to expect, the level of functionality that currently exists, it won't be the same unless you pay |
| 20:33.19 | NivFreak | yep |
| 20:33.35 | NivFreak | call it the great sundering of wow addons |
| 20:33.37 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 20:33.49 | kenlyric | maybe http://www.wowhead.com/?item=15010 |
| 20:34.16 | EvilJohn- | yes, they'll have to click more |
| 20:34.36 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, I'm just curious... what possible value added feature is this going to have... |
| 20:34.52 | VonhintenHOME` | we already have free source repositories online with API to be exploited |
| 20:34.56 | EvilJohn- | what do you mean by that |
| 20:34.58 | Dashkal | oh yeah, that's the one |
| 20:35.01 | EvilJohn- | ah |
| 20:35.03 | EvilJohn- | well there's the wrod |
| 20:35.05 | Dashkal | hit the 3d viewer and put it on a BE male |
| 20:35.05 | EvilJohn- | exploited |
| 20:35.29 | EvilJohn- | someone has to pay for that bandwidth, clearly wowace's model was going to survive for very long |
| 20:35.33 | CIA-45 | 03pettigrow * r78937 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: |
| 20:35.33 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:35.33 | CIA-45 | - frFR Update |
| 20:35.37 | Dashkal | and for the sake of your sanity do NOT put it on a gnome male |
| 20:35.55 | VonhintenHOME` | google code doesn't have bandwidth restrictions, does it? |
| 20:36.02 | clad|sleep | nope |
| 20:36.03 | EvilJohn- | no |
| 20:36.09 | EvilJohn- | the code be hosted there |
| 20:36.18 | EvilJohn- | any addon author could host there |
| 20:36.21 | Arrowmaster | but it doesnt really have that many other things |
| 20:36.25 | EvilJohn- | and let me see how I'm going to update that... |
| 20:36.34 | EvilJohn- | automagically |
| 20:37.26 | EvilJohn- | I guess I can't really |
| 20:37.44 | VonhintenHOME` | sorry, if there was a point there I think I missed it |
| 20:37.57 | VonhintenHOME` | or not understanding it |
| 20:37.57 | EvilJohn- | well you're complaining about the removal of WAU |
| 20:37.59 | EvilJohn- | which is fine |
| 20:38.05 | NivFreak | wow |
| 20:38.08 | NivFreak | 30stamina gems in wrath |
| 20:38.15 | NivFreak | I'd say that's just a bit of stam inflation again |
| 20:38.19 | EvilJohn- | and that the Curse client is goin to take a little more effort |
| 20:38.23 | EvilJohn- | which is true |
| 20:38.42 | EvilJohn- | but then offered up a solution that doesn't solve either of those two problems... |
| 20:38.55 | cladhaire | ... |
| 20:39.00 | EvilJohn- | so, maybe it's me who doesn't understand the point. |
| 20:39.11 | NivFreak | I wonder if I'll have 30K health in wrath |
| 20:39.13 | cladhaire | an updater could be written for google code |
| 20:39.15 | Megalon | NivFreak: and 20 str gems, and 20 agi gems, everything gat a nice inflation :x |
| 20:39.18 | cladhaire | further, there could be a "GAU" updater |
| 20:39.19 | EvilJohn- | sure could |
| 20:39.23 | cladhaire | that has the index of the addons to update |
| 20:39.23 | cladhaire | bam |
| 20:39.24 | EvilJohn- | absolutely |
| 20:39.26 | cladhaire | both problems solves |
| 20:39.27 | cladhaire | so.. |
| 20:39.32 | EvilJohn- | could happen |
| 20:39.32 | Arrowmaster | so like wowmatrix? |
| 20:39.38 | cladhaire | the point that was being made |
| 20:39.48 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, I wasn't exactly offering end to end solutions, I was mearly posing the question, why use curse forge when there are other free alternatives that have end points with 0 user cost |
| 20:39.51 | Diao | there's a 45 stam epic bop gem NivFreak |
| 20:39.59 | Diao | so i assume there should be an epic gem that's more than 30 stam? |
| 20:40.01 | NivFreak | Diao: unique-equipped, but yea |
| 20:40.03 | NivFreak | nope |
| 20:40.04 | NivFreak | 30 stam |
| 20:40.08 | NivFreak | they buffed the JC gmes |
| 20:40.08 | Diao | wow |
| 20:40.12 | Arrowmaster | VonhintenHOME`: i dont see how theres any end user cost with curseforge |
| 20:40.13 | NivFreak | unique-equipped ones |
| 20:40.13 | Diao | that's sick |
| 20:40.15 | EvilJohn- | the curse addon will have zero cost |
| 20:40.20 | Diao | 50% extra stats |
| 20:40.20 | EvilJohn- | addon updater |
| 20:40.23 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: Consider this. If everybody moves to those 'other free alternatives', they'll buckle for the same reason wowace did |
| 20:40.32 | VonhintenHOME` | Arrowmaster, to get what I have now, for free, I will need to pay |
| 20:40.33 | EvilJohn- | well let's not kid ourselfs |
| 20:40.36 | VonhintenHOME` | that's where the cost is |
| 20:40.44 | EvilJohn- | google could easily absorb the bandwidth and even notice it |
| 20:40.50 | EvilJohn- | even at 30tb a month |
| 20:40.59 | Aiiane | but google also doesn't have WoW-specific functionality |
| 20:41.03 | Aiiane | such as ToC tracking, etc. |
| 20:41.10 | EvilJohn- | Oh |
| 20:41.25 | Arrowmaster | an google only has svn which sucks |
| 20:41.25 | EvilJohn- | are you saying googlecode and the curseforge software don't do the same thing? |
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| 20:41.33 | Arrowmaster | no they dont |
| 20:41.36 | Arrowmaster | far from it |
| 20:41.38 | VonhintenHOME` | they have git |
| 20:41.38 | EvilJohn- | so It's NOT the same... |
| 20:41.40 | EvilJohn- | hm |
| 20:41.46 | Arrowmaster | google does? since when? |
| 20:41.58 | Dashkal | google got git? |
| 20:42.07 | Cairenn|afk | just a reminder, the SVN and updater on WoWI are free |
| 20:42.09 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 20:42.16 | VonhintenHOME` | Hmm, maybe not, just saw git on the google code main page |
| 20:42.16 | Arrowmaster | hush |
| 20:42.20 | VonhintenHOME` | maybe it's not implemented |
| 20:42.35 | EvilJohn- | google code uses SVN, not git |
| 20:42.40 | EvilJohn- | there is a git project on google code |
| 20:43.11 | cladhaire | one could make a really robust system that leverages github/gitorious/gcode |
| 20:43.13 | VonhintenHOME` | They could use pvcs for all I care |
| 20:43.19 | Diao | http://quirkygba.blogspot.com/2007/10/using-git-with-google-code-hosting.html |
| 20:43.22 | EvilJohn- | probably |
| 20:43.22 | cladhaire | if they were so inclined |
| 20:43.27 | NivFreak | git2svn if you want |
| 20:43.47 | NivFreak | git-svn rather |
| 20:44.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah if google offered git instead of svn i would think that http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ would be using it |
| 20:44.12 | EvilJohn- | but I dunno how I would tell google code to "give me all addons compatible with 2.5 TOC" |
| 20:44.24 | NivFreak | what does that now? |
| 20:44.29 | EvilJohn- | I suppose I could be done with some funky labelling |
| 20:44.31 | cladhaire | EvilJohn-: you would write a system to do this. |
| 20:44.33 | cladhaire | as I've already said |
| 20:44.36 | cladhaire | you have no imagination :P |
| 20:44.45 | VonhintenHOME` | exactly |
| 20:44.47 | EvilJohn- | yes, I prefer to deal with reality |
| 20:44.51 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 20:45.01 | EvilJohn- | you're more than welcome to write that |
| 20:45.04 | cladhaire | then use what already works |
| 20:45.05 | cladhaire | no |
| 20:45.06 | EvilJohn- | and put curse out of business |
| 20:45.06 | cladhaire | i dont want to |
| 20:45.11 | cladhaire | i use wowinterface and i'm happy with it |
| 20:45.21 | EvilJohn- | wowinterface is a fine site |
| 20:45.28 | Arrowmaster | so is curse |
| 20:45.28 | cladhaire | i was responding to what you were saying |
| 20:45.33 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: indeed |
| 20:45.33 | EvilJohn- | great support for the addon community |
| 20:45.35 | cladhaire | its possible, and could work |
| 20:45.38 | Diao | hmm |
| 20:45.43 | Diao | i wonder why teh stam gem for JC gets +50% bonus |
| 20:45.48 | Diao | but the ap gem gets only +25% bonus |
| 20:45.52 | Diao | it's not even across the board? |
| 20:45.57 | EvilJohn- | but I thnk though, if wowinterface was in the same bandwidht output positinos as the WAU, that they'd have simialr problem |
| 20:45.58 | NeoTron | good question |
| 20:46.03 | NeoTron | JC only gems needed a boost |
| 20:46.10 | Diao | yeah |
| 20:46.12 | EvilJohn- | though perhaps the wowmatrix people are covering that bandwidth cost |
| 20:46.14 | NeoTron | 50% is pretty good but I still think it's worse than the enchants? |
| 20:46.17 | Diao | but the defensive one is better than the offensive one |
| 20:46.25 | Diao | well i'd expect it to be a 60 AP bop gem |
| 20:46.27 | Arrowmaster | EvilJohn-: wowmatrix doesnt host any files |
| 20:46.30 | Diao | but it's only 50 |
| 20:46.33 | NeoTron | maybe because you can have multiple offense ones? |
| 20:46.37 | EvilJohn- | aye |
| 20:46.40 | EvilJohn- | so they've said |
| 20:46.41 | Diao | you can? |
| 20:46.50 | NeoTron | crit for example |
| 20:46.56 | Diao | well |
| 20:46.56 | NeoTron | for spell casting there's crit and dmg |
| 20:47.01 | Diao | you can have multiple defensive gems as well can't you? |
| 20:47.03 | NeoTron | but crit isn't worth using |
| 20:47.05 | Diao | stam, defense, etc |
| 20:47.09 | NeoTron | currently there's only stam afaik? |
| 20:47.13 | Diao | even though nothing is worth using except stam |
| 20:47.14 | Diao | oh |
| 20:47.16 | Diao | hmm |
| 20:47.17 | Diao | let me check |
| 20:47.17 | NeoTron | all gems don't have an epic equivalent |
| 20:47.24 | NeoTron | there's no X/Y JC gems _now_ |
| 20:47.33 | NivFreak | I'm pretty sure there's a defense one too |
| 20:47.37 | NivFreak | but what tank gems defense |
| 20:47.38 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:47.38 | NeoTron | I hope they will change is though |
| 20:47.50 | NeoTron | I want an JC only version of all normal gems |
| 20:48.04 | NeoTron | either that or make them significantly better |
| 20:48.08 | NivFreak | I want an epic hit+stam gem =/ |
| 20:48.11 | NeoTron | not sure if 50% really is sufficient |
| 20:48.21 | Diao | no there currently is a defense one |
| 20:48.27 | Diao | facet of eternity |
| 20:48.28 | Diao | +12 def |
| 20:48.31 | NivFreak | Diao: see above |
| 20:48.36 | Diao | umm |
| 20:48.40 | Diao | sunwell tanks do i think |
| 20:48.42 | NeoTron | yay |
| 20:48.47 | Diao | they gem avoidance over stam |
| 20:48.48 | NeoTron | no bagspace for vanity pets and mounts |
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| 20:48.58 | Diao | because of the 25% reduced avoidance in sunwell or whatever |
| 20:49.10 | NivFreak | you don't gem defense |
| 20:49.12 | NivFreak | you gem dodge |
| 20:49.20 | NeoTron | ^^^ that |
| 20:49.32 | Diao | well |
| 20:49.35 | Diao | same thing for offense |
| 20:49.37 | NivFreak | it's more avoidance, and it's all pure avoidance ;) |
| 20:49.39 | Diao | nobody gems pure crit gems |
| 20:49.43 | Diao | because it's stupid :P |
| 20:49.44 | NivFreak | that's not true |
| 20:49.44 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:49.49 | NivFreak | holy pallys! |
| 20:49.55 | Diao | spellcrit yes |
| 20:50.01 | NivFreak | it's all the same in wrath :P |
| 20:50.06 | Diao | oh, right |
| 20:50.10 | Diao | well |
| 20:50.12 | Diao | either way |
| 20:50.25 | Diao | i still don't see a reason for them not to give AP higher bonus like stam got |
| 20:50.27 | NeoTron | interesting. the JC only gems match all colors |
| 20:50.32 | NeoTron | at least the two that are up |
| 20:50.43 | VonhintenHOME` | So, I didn't get an answer before, anyone know if all these new attack speed reductions will work on bosses? |
| 20:50.46 | Diao | yeah |
| 20:50.55 | Diao | they should, but don't know if they will stack or not |
| 20:50.56 | Zariel | libhealcomm isnt working for heals which im casting |
| 20:51.05 | Diao | they might make it not stack like cow/demo shout/demo roar currently |
| 20:51.10 | NeoTron | I suspec they don't stack |
| 20:51.15 | Diao | or tf/tclap |
| 20:51.16 | NeoTron | but it allows more freedom in group makeup |
| 20:51.20 | Diao | yeah |
| 20:51.25 | Diao | i just want them to make EA stack with sunder |
| 20:51.37 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 20:51.38 | Diao | or at least let devastate work off EA too |
| 20:51.41 | VonhintenHOME` | that would be sick |
| 20:51.45 | Diao | because it's dumb that EA reduces more armor than sunder |
| 20:51.51 | Diao | but then it screws warrior tanks completely |
| 20:51.55 | VonhintenHOME` | it doesn't, unless its improved |
| 20:52.10 | NeoTron | Keyword: "unless it's improved" |
| 20:52.11 | Diao | well, yeah |
| 20:52.30 | NeoTron | not really dumb - it's harder to keep up and you sacrifice dps for it so it should be better no? |
| 20:52.31 | VonhintenHOME` | well, I don't really think that's a dumb mechanic |
| 20:52.37 | NivFreak | one of my rogues has it in his head that endgame warriors don't need a sunder stack to make threat, and he can spec EA at some point |
| 20:52.45 | NivFreak | he's smoking crack |
| 20:52.49 | Diao | lol |
| 20:52.58 | NivFreak | he'll argue with me over and over about it |
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| 20:53.04 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm kinda stoked about the prot pally changes |
| 20:53.05 | Diao | you sacrifice dps for it for 5 combo points |
| 20:53.05 | NivFreak | sorry, the warlocks scale faster than my threat! |
| 20:53.09 | Diao | but not very much dps |
| 20:53.20 | Diao | rogues in my guild have 5pt snd/5pt rupture |
| 20:53.26 | Diao | and end up using CP on eviscerate while waiting for them to tick down |
| 20:53.30 | VonhintenHOME` | holy shield slam making block value more useful for pally's |
| 20:53.32 | CIA-45 | 03sano * r78938 10/branches/LoggerHead/ (8 files in 2 dirs): LoggerHead: Cleaned up the localization files and fixed the externals(again) |
| 20:53.37 | Diao | and it could be better used for an imp EA |
| 20:53.47 | Diao | since that would improve raidwide dps |
| 20:53.49 | Diao | by quite a bit |
| 20:53.51 | NivFreak | I'm scared of the warrior shield block changes |
| 20:54.02 | NeoTron | holy shield slam? |
| 20:54.06 | Diao | why? |
| 20:54.09 | NivFreak | now we'll be even more spikey to heal |
| 20:54.09 | Diao | yeah pallies get shield slam |
| 20:54.12 | Diao | except it does holy damage |
| 20:54.16 | NeoTron | cute |
| 20:54.19 | Diao | which means double threat |
| 20:54.22 | Diao | since they have righteous fury |
| 20:54.26 | Diao | :\ |
| 20:54.32 | NeoTron | all threat will be higher |
| 20:54.38 | NeoTron | but we won't have salvation to make up for it |
| 20:54.40 | NivFreak | yea, ezmode tanking returns |
| 20:54.44 | NeoTron | no |
| 20:54.46 | NeoTron | really |
| 20:54.46 | NivFreak | yes |
| 20:54.49 | NeoTron | it's not going to be easier |
| 20:54.50 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, plus they get a 51pt talent that hits 3 targets with holy damage, high threat, 6sec cooldown |
| 20:55.00 | NeoTron | 30% more threat just as it is |
| 20:55.09 | NeoTron | not including all the added "for free" synergy wotlk adds |
| 20:55.13 | NeoTron | dps will scale more than linearly |
| 20:55.25 | VonhintenHOME` | dodge and parry will have a chance to reduce the costs of cons, etc |
| 20:55.39 | NivFreak | warrior threat is going to be nuts |
| 20:55.47 | VonhintenHOME` | all threat is going to be nuts |
| 20:55.49 | Diao | are they finally giving us damage based therat |
| 20:55.49 | NivFreak | we get procs that expire our SS cooldown |
| 20:55.51 | Diao | threat* |
| 20:55.54 | Diao | yeah |
| 20:55.58 | VonhintenHOME` | pally, druid and warrior (and deathknight?) |
| 20:56.02 | Diao | they still need to keep us on damage based threat |
| 20:56.03 | Diao | instead of static threat |
| 20:56.12 | NivFreak | omfg yes |
| 20:56.15 | Diao | the whole static threat idea is terrible since it scales badly |
| 20:56.20 | NivFreak | wouldn't it be nice to put on dps gear and dps a bit as prot? |
| 20:56.29 | Diao | yeah like a druid |
| 20:56.30 | Diao | >.> |
| 20:56.34 | NivFreak | well |
| 20:56.41 | Diao | "hey look all my threat is based on damage multipliers" |
| 20:56.42 | NivFreak | druids barely have to change gear |
| 20:56.42 | Diao | ;p |
| 20:56.54 | NeoTron | NivFreak: warrior threat will be nuts. as will the warlock threat. and mage threat. and rogue threat and.. you get th eidea |
| 20:57.00 | NivFreak | nah |
| 20:57.03 | NivFreak | locks are getting nerfed hard |
| 20:57.06 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:57.09 | NeoTron | no they aren't |
| 20:57.15 | NivFreak | denial |
| 20:57.18 | NeoTron | truth |
| 20:57.18 | Diao | nerfed? |
| 20:57.27 | Diao | as far as i can tell the only nerf is to DS |
| 20:57.28 | NeoTron | Diao: he's being silly trying to make himself feel godly |
| 20:57.35 | Diao | so that locks aren't all saccing pets ;p |
| 20:57.37 | NivFreak | it sure doesn't look like locks will be on top in wrath |
| 20:57.41 | NeoTron | DS will be returned to something other than the current beta |
| 20:58.00 | VonhintenHOME` | I bet locks will be fine, if they actually play their toon, rather than spamming 11111111111111 |
| 20:58.02 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I don't see that. I can't tell you because with all the synergy we'll get it remains unknown |
| 20:58.07 | NeoTron | don't even know what the best spec will be |
| 20:58.17 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: and right, because we had a lot of choice on that didn't we? |
| 20:58.20 | NivFreak | well |
| 20:58.28 | NivFreak | the talent changes are pretty retarded in a lot of ways |
| 20:58.32 | NeoTron | what will kill locks is if they don't increase the debuff slots |
| 20:58.35 | NeoTron | lol |
| 20:58.38 | NeoTron | they WERE retarded |
| 20:58.41 | NeoTron | they aren't now |
| 20:58.41 | NivFreak | lots of pvp focused destro talents it looks like |
| 20:58.42 | Diao | seems like they're trying to make locks use pets more often |
| 20:58.52 | VonhintenHOME` | No, not the warlock's fault... just that blizzard didn't design a very dynamic combat system |
| 20:58.53 | NeoTron | only if you go down the imp immo/conflag path |
| 20:58.54 | NivFreak | Diao: but pets have shit survivability |
| 20:58.55 | Diao | and go into other trees aside from demo |
| 20:58.57 | VonhintenHOME` | and now they're trying to change that |
| 20:58.57 | NeoTron | which of course you don't for pve |
| 20:59.01 | Diao | full demo lock |
| 20:59.03 | Diao | seems interesting |
| 20:59.10 | NivFreak | 51pt demo talent el oh el |
| 20:59.13 | Diao | aren't pets getting something like 75% reduced damage from aoes and stuff |
| 20:59.16 | NivFreak | demon form! rawr! |
| 20:59.18 | NeoTron | 51pt is pretty crap |
| 20:59.19 | NivFreak | I can melee! |
| 20:59.23 | Diao | well not 51 point |
| 20:59.24 | NivFreak | and have a 5 min CD! |
| 20:59.25 | NeoTron | but 45-50 is great |
| 20:59.26 | Diao | but 50 in demo |
| 20:59.30 | Diao | demonic pact seems insanely good |
| 20:59.35 | NeoTron | Diao: ... hunter pets are |
| 20:59.35 | NivFreak | unless they do something to make pets more survivable |
| 20:59.40 | Diao | oh |
| 20:59.40 | NivFreak | demo will still suck ass |
| 20:59.42 | Diao | only hunter pets? |
| 20:59.43 | Diao | that's terrible |
| 20:59.49 | Diao | locks should get it as well |
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| 20:59.59 | NeoTron | NivFreak: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202650616&pageNo=1&sid=2000#10 |
| 21:00.07 | Diao | hmm |
| 21:00.09 | Diao | fel synergy too |
| 21:00.34 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so they are coming around |
| 21:00.41 | Cheads | and imp with 75& reduced aoe damage will still die first time it enters aoe |
| 21:00.44 | Cheads | % |
| 21:01.01 | NeoTron | all raids should have 1 aff lock (malediction, shadow embrace), 1 demo lock (demo pact), 1 destro lock (for the imp) |
| 21:01.10 | NeoTron | imp has to have some sort of aoe immunity |
| 21:01.12 | NeoTron | to be viable |
| 21:01.15 | Diao | hmmm |
| 21:01.16 | NeoTron | like a totem |
| 21:01.19 | Diao | yeah |
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| 21:01.20 | Cheads | yeah |
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| 21:01.25 | NeoTron | it's pretty much a requirement for it to be useful |
| 21:01.31 | Diao | fel synergy seems great |
| 21:01.33 | Diao | for a felguard lock |
| 21:01.35 | NeoTron | when get into beta I will be sure to post that feedback |
| 21:01.39 | Diao | every damage you do heals pet for 15% |
| 21:01.43 | NeoTron | same as 2xt5 |
| 21:01.46 | Adys | is it possible to lock/unlock the default chat frame with a macro? |
| 21:01.53 | NeoTron | for solo farming it might be worth keeping 2xt5 around :P |
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| 21:01.55 | VonhintenHOME` | !rating 1555 |
| 21:01.55 | Xinhuan | 1555 rating gives 407(5s), 358(3s) and 309(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:02.00 | NeoTron | 30% dmg => hp ftw |
| 21:02.04 | NivFreak | hopefully they send out a 2nd round of invites |
| 21:02.06 | VonhintenHOME` | !rating 1616 |
| 21:02.07 | Xinhuan | 1616 rating gives 486(5s), 428(3s) and 369(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:02.11 | NivFreak | and 3rd |
| 21:02.11 | Diao | they'll nerf 2p t5 |
| 21:02.12 | NivFreak | etc |
| 21:02.14 | Diao | probably |
| 21:02.20 | NivFreak | Diao: that would be lame |
| 21:02.21 | Diao | just like for mages |
| 21:02.24 | NivFreak | 2p t5 and the trinket |
| 21:02.28 | Diao | they nerf all the 'amazing' set bonuses |
| 21:02.30 | NivFreak | would be nice for demo leveling |
| 21:02.31 | Diao | or gear |
| 21:02.32 | Cheads | Adys: /script if (CHAT_LOCKED == "1") then FCF_Set_ChatLocked(); else FCF_Set_ChatLocked(1); end; |
| 21:02.34 | Diao | so that people stop using it at 80 |
| 21:02.36 | Diao | or whatever |
| 21:02.42 | Adys | cheers Cheads :) |
| 21:02.44 | NivFreak | well, they could actually put a BETTER set bonus on gear ;P |
| 21:02.49 | Diao | haha |
| 21:02.55 | NeoTron | 2xt5 isn't amazing |
| 21:03.00 | NeoTron | nothing you'd ever use normally |
| 21:03.17 | Adys | ah no Cheads |
| 21:03.17 | sb | yay |
| 21:03.18 | NivFreak | for leveling :P |
| 21:03.19 | sb | twins down |
| 21:03.21 | Adys | wasnt talking about that |
| 21:03.24 | Diao | hmm |
| 21:03.26 | Diao | i don't know much about locks |
| 21:03.26 | Diao | but |
| 21:03.27 | Adys | was talking about not being able to resize it |
| 21:03.31 | sb | and yes, reverse is much easier :o |
| 21:03.32 | Diao | 18/53/0 for demo lock? |
| 21:03.33 | NeoTron | for leveling it'd be useful |
| 21:03.35 | Diao | in xpac |
| 21:03.36 | NeoTron | sb: tol dya |
| 21:03.51 | NeoTron | Diao: for leveling perhaps. for raiding you'd want some destro points |
| 21:03.52 | Cheads | Adys: sorry dont know then |
| 21:04.01 | sb | and grats to me for new offhand ;) |
| 21:04.01 | NivFreak | healthstones are unique now? |
| 21:04.01 | Adys | kk thanks anyway :) |
| 21:04.05 | NivFreak | that sucks so much |
| 21:04.08 | Diao | hmm |
| 21:04.10 | Diao | really |
| 21:04.13 | NeoTron | destro will use incinerate, but aff and demo will want to use SB's |
| 21:04.25 | Diao | i was thinking up to empowered corruption for a demo lock |
| 21:04.41 | NivFreak | NeoTron: what's your theory on destro spec? |
| 21:04.49 | NivFreak | I saw the first one you linked |
| 21:04.59 | Diao | i guess 16/50/5 worsk too |
| 21:05.02 | Cheads | healthstones unique? so you can only have one now? |
| 21:05.13 | NivFreak | Cheads: apparently |
| 21:05.16 | Cheads | eek |
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| 21:05.56 | Diao | so no more bringing 3 locks with 0/2, 1/2, 2/2 imp hs to raids? :( |
| 21:06.29 | Adys | i dont know if its live but some stuff is like that |
| 21:06.37 | Adys | Unique (Healthstone) Unique (Mana gems) |
| 21:06.38 | Adys | etc |
| 21:06.42 | CIA-45 | 03charon * r78939 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Paladin.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:06.42 | CIA-45 | Threat-2.0: Fix paladin healing threat |
| 21:06.42 | CIA-45 | As pointed out by Zappster[1], paladin healing threat has been broken |
| 21:06.42 | CIA-45 | since 2.4.2. Since the general belief[2] seems to be that all healing |
| 21:06.42 | CIA-45 | by a paladin---even that caused by other classes and hence spell |
| 21:06.44 | CIA-45 | schools---is affected, we introduce a new modifier for healing and |
| 21:06.45 | Adys | in wlk at least |
| 21:06.48 | CIA-45 | have paladins set it to 0.25. |
| 21:07.09 | Diao | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IfxM0zZrxczsgoA0sgzVZV0h |
| 21:07.16 | Diao | for raiding demo lock? |
| 21:07.28 | Stanzilla | is there a bluepost for the healthstone stuff? |
| 21:07.50 | Diao | or swap 2 points for frailty from imp coa |
| 21:07.50 | NivFreak | just a comment in that thread |
| 21:07.52 | NivFreak | not blue |
| 21:09.07 | *** join/#wowace Soulsbane (n=Soulsban@dial-69-55-136-221.sofnet.net) |
| 21:11.11 | Saroz | "Congratulations on being one of the selected members of the AddOn community to receive a Beta key for World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King!" |
| 21:11.13 | Saroz | say wut |
| 21:11.25 | NivFreak | give to me imo |
| 21:11.31 | Hjalte | Diao: Do you think you can do enough damage without Ruin? |
| 21:11.33 | AckisWork | grats saroz |
| 21:11.38 | Saroz | ty |
| 21:11.52 | Diao | i dont' see why not |
| 21:12.03 | Diao | as a demo lock you aren't relying as much on sb crits? |
| 21:13.12 | NivFreak | eh? |
| 21:13.55 | Hjalte | Diao: Yes, you're not relying that much on shadow bolt crits, but they are still a large part of your damage. |
| 21:14.10 | NivFreak | I can't imagine you'll be able to raid without ruin |
| 21:14.35 | Diao | i dunno |
| 21:14.41 | Diao | 50/21 seems weaker to me than 15/50/5 |
| 21:14.48 | Diao | er 16* |
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| 21:21.27 | Aiiane | sb: ping |
| 21:21.36 | sb | Aiiane: yup? |
| 21:21.59 | Aiiane | give goTimer an option to do "start 5" instead of "start" for just the 5-second cd, imo :) |
| 21:22.10 | sb | mhh yup |
| 21:22.38 | sb | i need more free time :o that addon has been on my hdd for ~2years %-) |
| 21:22.43 | Aiiane | lol |
| 21:22.49 | sb | needs some improvements ;) |
| 21:23.02 | NivFreak | Saroz: did you just get that today? |
| 21:23.17 | Saroz | ye |
| 21:23.23 | Saroz | from curse |
| 21:23.26 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr) |
| 21:23.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 21:23.54 | Saroz | loves teh curse <3 |
| 21:25.14 | Aiiane | NivFreak: 10[14:07] Kody: 01Sending out emails now to request the additional required info by Blizzard for the first batch of keys |
| 21:26.21 | Saroz | got it a few min ago |
| 21:26.41 | Kody | Is the author of Outfitter in this channel? |
| 21:26.43 | Aiiane | that message was about 15 minutes ago :) |
| 21:27.06 | NivFreak | oh |
| 21:27.07 | NivFreak | nice |
| 21:27.17 | NivFreak | I didn't know curse had a key give away |
| 21:27.18 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:27.22 | Aiiane | I don't see a Mundocani, Kody |
| 21:27.31 | Aiiane | so unless there's here under an alternate nick.. |
| 21:27.57 | Kody | Alright, going to confirm the hard way this is actually Mundocani then :P |
| 21:28.24 | Aiiane | delete addon from site, see what email address the complaint comes from :P |
| 21:28.26 | Aiiane | (kidding) |
| 21:28.51 | Kody | Hah |
| 21:29.24 | *** join/#wowace chiper (n=chiper@69.43.204.8) |
| 21:29.48 | Cairenn|afk | Curse's giveaway for authors is a contest, WoWI's is a guaranteed |
| 21:30.23 | Xinhuan | how many keys did you giveaway 2 years ago? |
| 21:30.40 | Cairenn|afk | 700+ |
| 21:30.47 | Diao | is that why there's so many addons being uploaded to wowi |
| 21:30.51 | Diao | there're* |
| 21:31.34 | Kody | Cairenn: Incorrect |
| 21:31.41 | Kody | It's a guarantee |
| 21:32.27 | chiper | good way to get people to use the site |
| 21:32.44 | Cairenn|afk | Kody: oh? not the way it reads, my mistake |
| 21:32.46 | Cairenn|afk | glad to hear it |
| 21:33.06 | Kody | You're thinking of the Bananas code giveaway, probably :P |
| 21:33.08 | Kody | Which is a contest |
| 21:33.21 | Cairenn|afk | no, I was thinking of the beta key |
| 21:33.30 | Cairenn|afk | go re-read the way you guys have it worded |
| 21:33.34 | Cairenn|afk | it sounds like a contest |
| 21:34.04 | Xinhuan | 700+ authors getting betas isn't really a lot from the perspective of 10.5 million customers heh |
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| 21:34.22 | Xinhuan | or even just considering the 5 mil in eu/us |
| 21:34.39 | VonhintenHOME` | Are they giving out that many? |
| 21:34.49 | Kody | Hm, doesn't sound like a contest to me, to be completely honest |
| 21:34.54 | Diao | well |
| 21:34.59 | Kody | I just didn't want to give the impression signing up == key immediately |
| 21:35.08 | Diao | talking about "winning project" |
| 21:35.09 | Kody | Because we were asked to pace the number of people we bring into beta each week |
| 21:35.12 | Diao | makes it seem like a contest :P |
| 21:35.27 | Kody | Ah whoops, yeah that part needs edited |
| 21:37.02 | chiper | hmm, perhaps this would be a good time for me to update my xpbar mod |
| 21:37.19 | Cairenn|afk | "... there's a good chance you'll be ..." "Authors chosen for ..." |
| 21:37.45 | Cairenn|afk | also, I really must object to the "unique opportunity" part ... it's far from unique |
| 21:38.06 | NeoTron | so I made this hello world addon that says hello and then world zomg (I kid I kid) |
| 21:38.22 | nevcairiel | lol NeoTron |
| 21:38.28 | NeoTron | Cairenn|afk: for what it's worth I checked wowi right after I saw that on curse |
| 21:39.35 | cladhaire | lua> print("Hello World Zomg!") |
| 21:39.35 | lua_bot | cladhaire: Hello World Zomg! |
| 21:39.39 | cladhaire | yay lua_bot wins a beta key! |
| 21:39.43 | NeoTron | grats lua bot |
| 21:39.46 | lua_bot | hurray! |
| 21:39.50 | NeoTron | lol |
| 21:39.51 | lua_bot | ty NeoTron |
| 21:39.52 | NeoTron | wtf |
| 21:39.53 | AckisWork | huzzay! |
| 21:39.58 | ZealotOnAStick | did Blizzard change chat/combat logs to only write out on game exit now in 2.4? |
| 21:40.13 | cladhaire | ZealotOnAStick: i hadn't heard that, i hope not |
| 21:40.25 | yoshimo | kody, is it possible to get a key if you are not the addon author but one of the main contributors to the addon? |
| 21:40.27 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: rather they never fixed it not to |
| 21:40.37 | Aiiane | ^ What Neotron said |
| 21:40.38 | NeoTron | it always buffered shit and didn't close the file until you logged out |
| 21:40.41 | chiper | it's probably just not closing the file until game exit |
| 21:40.58 | NeoTron | it should flush stuff when you stop logging but it doesn't |
| 21:41.08 | Aiiane | it'd be nice to have a /flushlogs command, or that, neo |
| 21:41.38 | Cheads | !rating 1425 |
| 21:41.39 | Xinhuan | 1425 rating gives 327(5s), 288(3s) and 248(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:42.22 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 21:42.27 | NivFreak | maybe I should post one of my lame addons |
| 21:42.28 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 21:42.44 | NivFreak | they are better than hello world, mostly! |
| 21:43.11 | chiper | I've been wanting a reason to update chipersxpbar |
| 21:43.18 | chiper | this sounds like a pretty damn good one |
| 21:43.28 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-136-087.citizip.com) |
| 21:43.37 | NivFreak | so wowi is just emailing out keys to anyone who hosts thier addon there? |
| 21:43.41 | Xinhuan | do dragon kite contest ROFL addons count towards beta keys? (lol) |
| 21:43.47 | Lysithea | 9months ago when I stopped playing I had a addon that tracked my renews etc, I cant for the love of god remember what the name of it is. However I'm guessing people are using something else nowadays... anyone that could point me in the right direction? |
| 21:43.48 | NivFreak | or am I misreating that |
| 21:43.58 | AckisWork | lol Xinhuan |
| 21:43.58 | Diao | tracking renews? |
| 21:44.03 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: if you sign up for it, yes |
| 21:44.05 | NivFreak | Lysithea: use grid + grid addons |
| 21:44.08 | Lysithea | with a bar counting down |
| 21:44.15 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: nice |
| 21:44.21 | Lysithea | I mainly pvp where I dont use grid |
| 21:44.21 | NeoTron | NivFreak: if it is up to date for 2.4, hosted on curse or wowi (both sites offer it) and you sign up |
| 21:44.22 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: its a automated check, so probably :P |
| 21:44.27 | Xinhuan | i'm still trying to think of a ROFL addon idea |
| 21:44.30 | Xinhuan | but i'm coming up with zip |
| 21:44.32 | NeoTron | and not a "hello world" but actually valid addon |
| 21:44.36 | NivFreak | does the rickroll addon get one? |
| 21:44.37 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:44.41 | Diao | natur combat timers, classtimers |
| 21:44.45 | Diao | should be a few others |
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| 21:45.00 | Lysithea | I'll check up on classtimers |
| 21:45.10 | Diao | not sure if classtimers tracks multiple targets though |
| 21:45.15 | chiper | even healbot does it, tho with icons instead of bars |
| 21:45.26 | Lysithea | I remember reading about it before |
| 21:45.52 | Lysithea | Diao know if it tracks the renews I'm putting out? |
| 21:46.20 | NeoTron | I've requested that logs are flushed and closed when logging is disabled.... ;-) |
| 21:46.22 | Lysithea | only thing I want really, my hots/dots tracked |
| 21:46.42 | Lysithea | Ill dig some more |
| 21:46.48 | Diao | hmm |
| 21:47.04 | sylvanaar | man, i'll tell you - wotlk called my bluff, i have 2 active wow subscriptions to show for it |
| 21:47.09 | CIA-45 | 03elsia * r78940 10Recount/ (Fights.lua Recount.lua locales/Recount-enUS.lua): |
| 21:47.09 | CIA-45 | Recount: |
| 21:47.09 | CIA-45 | - Added slider option to AceConfig GUI to allow to change the maximum number of retained fight segments from 1 to 25 (default stays 5 for now). |
| 21:48.01 | Xuerian | Lysithea: Chronometer was probably the old addon |
| 21:48.08 | Xuerian | It's not maintained anymore, though. |
| 21:48.22 | Xuerian | (Still mostly works... ish..) |
| 21:48.38 | Lysithea | that sounds very much like it, too bad it's abandoned :| |
| 21:48.44 | Lysithea | there's nothing new like it? |
| 21:48.45 | Dashkal | Chronometer was never updated for 2.4 :( It works, but cannot handle multiple mobs with the same name and can't see deaths |
| 21:48.58 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 21:49.55 | Lysithea | I guess I can live with that |
| 21:50.08 | Diao | oh |
| 21:50.08 | Diao | Lysithea try hotcandy maybe |
| 21:50.08 | Lysithea | I'd only use my ui for pvp anyway |
| 21:50.12 | Diao | not sure if it's updated now either |
| 21:50.53 | Xuerian | Honestly for healing chronometer works fine |
| 21:51.01 | Xuerian | I think it still depends on parser 1.0 |
| 21:51.37 | Lysithea | Ill try both out |
| 21:52.11 | Lysithea | while I'm at it, any diminishing returns tracker addon around? |
| 21:52.57 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78941 10AckisRecipeList/ (DataMiner.lua DownloadCount.lua): |
| 21:52.57 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 21:52.57 | CIA-45 | - Add frame for dataminer |
| 21:52.57 | CIA-45 | - Optimize download count |
| 21:52.57 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 21:53.25 | Xuerian | Lysithea: Haven't seen one since the old necb stopped working |
| 21:53.27 | Diao | drtracker by Shadowed i guess? |
| 21:53.29 | Diao | that's what i use anyway |
| 21:53.32 | Xuerian | ~seen andreasg |
| 21:53.34 | purl | andreasg <n=ag`@0x503e75de.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 643d 3h 56m 52s ago, saying: 'ok, BC secure unit frame guys, how are you supposed to hide the target frame if the target unit doesn't exist?'. |
| 21:53.34 | Lysithea | DR Tracker on wowi |
| 21:53.35 | Shadowed | you bastard and your pings |
| 21:53.36 | Lysithea | yeah |
| 21:53.36 | Shadowed | i'll stab you |
| 21:53.39 | Diao | :( |
| 21:53.40 | Diao | sorry |
| 21:53.42 | Lysithea | just found it |
| 21:53.43 | Diao | lol |
| 21:53.47 | Xuerian | ~seen ag` |
| 21:53.48 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@0x57317a46.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 5h 41m 33s ago, saying: 'Does anyone know if there is a keybinding widget for AceGUI-3.0 somewhere?'. |
| 21:54.15 | Diao | btw Shadowed is the sspvp ui intended to be so barebones? |
| 21:54.20 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 21:54.26 | Diao | all i get is an option for data retention now |
| 21:54.28 | Diao | when i /sspvp ui |
| 21:54.32 | Shadowed | uh |
| 21:54.33 | Shadowed | fuck |
| 21:55.09 | Shadowed | oh are you using the latest SVN? |
| 21:55.12 | Shadowed | get the one from wowi |
| 21:55.19 | Shadowed | or update SVN one |
| 21:55.22 | Diao | oh |
| 21:55.46 | Shadowed | I was going to move it to AceGUI-3.0, until I realized how much that'd suck |
| 21:55.52 | Diao | lol |
| 21:56.33 | Shadowed | Grab latest SVN, or grab latest WoWI |
| 21:56.41 | Diao | hmm |
| 21:56.45 | Diao | just used svn update |
| 21:56.48 | Diao | and it didn't have any file changes |
| 21:56.49 | Shadowed | grab it again |
| 21:56.54 | Shadowed | I just updated it 5 seconds ago |
| 21:56.59 | Diao | oh ok |
| 21:57.26 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78942 10AltTabber/DownloadCount.lua: |
| 21:57.26 | CIA-45 | AltTabber: |
| 21:57.26 | CIA-45 | - Updated download count |
| 21:57.26 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
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| 21:57.45 | Shadowed | maybe i'll recode SSPVP again |
| 21:57.48 | Shadowed | to make it less horrible |
| 21:58.34 | Diao | lol |
| 21:58.42 | Diao | it's still the only pvp addon i use |
| 21:59.21 | Xinhuan | lol at a useless commit by ackis ;p |
| 21:59.48 | AckisWork | wait for it.. |
| 21:59.50 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78943 10Querier/DownloadCount.lua: |
| 21:59.50 | CIA-45 | Querier: |
| 21:59.50 | CIA-45 | - Updated download count |
| 21:59.50 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 21:59.50 | AckisWork | wait for it....... |
| 21:59.52 | AckisWork | YES |
| 22:00.11 | AckisWork | (it was actually code updates) |
| 22:00.13 | AckisWork | :P |
| 22:00.13 | Xinhuan | that update of the download count, will cause more downloads to update the download count with, right? :) |
| 22:00.18 | Diao | haha |
| 22:00.37 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AckisRecipeList/DownloadCount.lua |
| 22:00.57 | AckisWork | I was learning how to parse web-sites and that was my learning example |
| 22:01.14 | Xinhuan | you want to see download counts? |
| 22:01.23 | Xinhuan | check my addon |
| 22:01.23 | Xinhuan | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=1699 |
| 22:01.38 | Xinhuan | BankItems has "124,477 total downloads / downloads this week: 14,147 / downloads today: 9,824" |
| 22:01.41 | AckisWork | I was like "ok, how can I parse a web-page" and that's what I started with |
| 22:01.43 | Xinhuan | do they start making up download numbers now? |
| 22:02.03 | Xinhuan | how is it even possible my addon got 9.8k downloads today, but only 124k lifetime (over 3 years) |
| 22:02.22 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78944 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: This really shouldn't be needed, I'd think |
| 22:02.25 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, looks like it only writes on logout. |
| 22:02.29 | Diao | did the addon get renamed maybe? |
| 22:02.30 | ZealotOnAStick | but not on /rl |
| 22:02.34 | Xinhuan | no diao |
| 22:02.37 | Diao | oh |
| 22:02.44 | Xinhuan | my last upload of BankItems was also 67 days ago |
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| 22:04.52 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: why are you dealing with download counts in bank items? |
| 22:04.57 | AckisWork | (didn't look at code :P) |
| 22:05.03 | Xinhuan | i don't |
| 22:05.11 | AckisWork | ahh ok |
| 22:05.15 | Xinhuan | i'm just saying that the download counts aren't believable |
| 22:05.21 | AckisWork | oh I know |
| 22:05.25 | Xinhuan | and i think the numbers are made up |
| 22:05.35 | AckisWork | well the overall on wowui seem to be credible but not the rest |
| 22:05.42 | CIA-45 | 03zealotonastick * r78945 10FuBar_LogFu2/ (FuBar_LogFu2.toc LogFu2-enUS.lua LogFu2.lua license.txt): |
| 22:05.42 | CIA-45 | FuBar_LogFu2: |
| 22:05.42 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.51 | AckisWork | I've been watching it over a week or so and there's been no drastic jump |
| 22:05.54 | Xinhuan | it was about 100k 3 months ago |
| 22:07.04 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78946 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Safety belts on |
| 22:07.23 | AckisWork | I just wrote that code to learn how to use sockets |
| 22:07.36 | AckisWork | easier than diving into http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibPeriodicTable-3.1/dataminer.lua off the start |
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| 22:09.58 | AckisWork | ~seen nymbie |
| 22:10.00 | purl | i haven't seen 'nymbie', AckisWork |
| 22:10.00 | AckisWork | ~seen nymbia |
| 22:10.01 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 65d 23h 34m 24s ago, saying: 'i think ill go name some critical functions that and then complain when other addons break them'. |
| 22:10.04 | Cheads | !rating 1409 |
| 22:10.04 | Xinhuan | 1409 rating gives 323(5s), 285(3s) and 246(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:10.25 | Saroz | nevcairiel, give me a screenshot of your sRF setup |
| 22:10.36 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 22:10.43 | Saroz | wut wut |
| 22:10.55 | AckisWork | in the ? |
| 22:11.56 | Stanzilla | butt? |
| 22:12.21 | nevcairiel | Saroz: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ce3a6eaad95fc10b146778ac50b8fa92.jpg |
| 22:12.25 | Saroz | ty |
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| 22:15.31 | Saroz | nevcairiel, dont need that PvP thing anymore :p |
| 22:15.46 | nevcairiel | yeah the screenshot is old |
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| 22:16.58 | selckin | knew where that was just from looking at the box :( |
| 22:17.04 | Saroz | oki :) |
| 22:18.49 | Diao | pvp thing o_o |
| 22:18.58 | Diao | oh |
| 22:19.00 | Diao | on xrs |
| 22:19.07 | nevcairiel | the pvp status bar in my XRS |
| 22:22.54 | Saroz | When I find the mod that causes this: |
| 22:22.54 | Saroz | [2008/07/23 00:22:26-53-x8]: AceEvent-2.0-66043:369: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message --- |
| 22:22.58 | Saroz | there will be hell to pay |
| 22:23.24 | Artmi | disable all add-ons, enable one by one :P |
| 22:23.24 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:23.27 | nevcairiel | no other trace back? |
| 22:23.30 | Saroz | none |
| 22:23.34 | Saroz | only happens in raid |
| 22:23.59 | Arrowmaster | its aceevent-2.0, which uses pcall and destroys tracebacks |
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| 22:28.40 | Kolie | Auto pdates to the curse profiler addon via the curse client beta overriding do not update flags has been fixed. |
| 22:29.45 | Vulcanus | you need to kidnap the families of your bosses so you can allow removal of that addon. srsli. |
| 22:29.46 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 22:30.25 | Vulcanus | also it doesn't play nice with uac |
| 22:30.51 | Vulcanus | infinayt update loop :( |
| 22:31.39 | fewyn | yawns |
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| 22:32.47 | Kolie | disable auto update -> delete addon dir, or disable in wow. |
| 22:33.08 | Vulcanus | so it wont re-dload it auto like it used to? |
| 22:33.10 | Kolie | Which you couldve done before. |
| 22:33.23 | Kolie | The only time it did that, was if it was updated. |
| 22:33.28 | Vulcanus | ah |
| 22:33.34 | Kolie | It wont download updates if you specifically mark THAT package for not updating. |
| 22:33.57 | Vulcanus | I just disabled it in wow, heres hoping your bosses don't force you to mess with the AddOns.txt files ;) |
| 22:34.09 | ZealotOnAStick | but why don't you want to give us useful, helpful data? |
| 22:34.51 | Vulcanus | should I make a ticket regarding the error during update when UAC is enabled? |
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| 22:35.12 | ZealotOnAStick | probably. |
| 22:35.15 | Vulcanus | have enough memory intensive addons that prove in-game useful data ;p |
| 22:35.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm really not looking forward to turning that back on to test that. |
| 22:37.00 | ZealotOnAStick | other than when it was bugged, I've never seen the profiler bigger than a couple hundred k |
| 22:38.09 | Vulcanus | hehe |
| 22:40.05 | Vulcanus | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/110-uac-client-updates-disaster/ |
| 22:40.28 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78947 10AckisRecipeList/DataMiner.lua: |
| 22:40.28 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:40.28 | CIA-45 | - Update dataminer a bit |
| 22:40.28 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 22:40.56 | Vulcanus | Doesn't affect me anymore since I already took ownership of the Curse folder in the program files, and I already have ownership over the WoW folder, but other users might not know how to do this |
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| 22:43.34 | Vulcanus | don't ever know why I turned on the "uac with no popups while on admin account" but meh :p |
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| 22:46.42 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 22:46.59 | Aiiane | how does one make a value appear for dropdown boxes via AceConfig3? |
| 22:47.13 | Aiiane | I can generate the list of dropdown values fine, select them, etc... |
| 22:47.28 | Aiiane | does it just automatically display whatever the get function returns? or is there a separate value |
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| 22:48.48 | nevcairiel | you did set a values table, right? |
| 22:48.55 | Aiiane | yes |
| 22:49.03 | Aiiane | otherwise the dropdown wouldnt have any values in it :P |
| 22:49.18 | nevcairiel | the get function should return the key of that table |
| 22:49.21 | Aiiane | k |
| 22:49.26 | nevcairiel | and it'll display the corresponding value |
| 22:50.09 | Aiiane | bah. AceDB's profile functions dont integrate quite as nicely with AceConfig as I'd hoped then :P |
| 22:50.28 | Aiiane | because GetCurrentProfile returns a name, but GetProfiles returns a integer-indexed table :P |
| 22:50.37 | nevcairiel | Use AceDBOptions-3.0? |
| 22:50.57 | nevcairiel | I wrote it for that! :) |
| 22:51.01 | Aiiane | is it documented? :P |
| 22:51.27 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 22:51.27 | nevcairiel | <-- in here |
| 22:51.36 | Aiiane | document it and I'll be glad to use it :P |
| 22:51.45 | nevcairiel | its easy to use |
| 22:51.48 | nevcairiel | its a one-liner |
| 22:52.03 | nevcairiel | you just do something like |
| 22:52.27 | nevcairiel | myoptionstable.profiles = AceDBOptions:GetOptionsTable(reference_to_AceDB_object) |
| 22:53.04 | nevcairiel | profiles just being in a place where subgroups are valid |
| 22:53.04 | Aiiane | k |
| 22:53.11 | Aiiane | See, how hard would it be to throw that on http://wowace.com/wiki/AceDBOptions-3.0 :P |
| 22:53.33 | nevcairiel | you know how it is ... |
| 22:53.33 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 22:53.59 | Aiiane | Remind me to be more of a nag about documenting Ace3 later on down the line :P |
| 22:54.10 | Fisker- | nevcairiel |
| 22:54.14 | Fisker- | alliance got shemales |
| 22:54.21 | nevcairiel | Fisker- |
| 22:54.23 | Fisker- | kinda eww |
| 22:54.24 | Aiiane | ...wha? |
| 22:54.35 | Fisker- | There's an achievement for faction bosses |
| 22:54.36 | Fisker- | one says |
| 22:54.37 | nevcairiel | dont listen to him :P |
| 22:54.44 | Fisker- | "Kill KING Tyrande Whisperwind" |
| 22:54.45 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 22:54.46 | Fisker- | king |
| 22:55.06 | nevcairiel | meh its just a typo |
| 22:55.10 | nevcairiel | but i'll see that myself soon! |
| 22:55.17 | nevcairiel | tells blizzy loader to hurry |
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| 22:58.57 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 22:59.05 | Aiiane | nevcairiel, that's not working :P |
| 22:59.30 | Aiiane | although... hm, sec :P |
| 23:00.38 | nevcairiel | is confuzzled |
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| 23:03.04 | Aiiane | trying a few different things, getting a different error each time :P |
| 23:03.13 | NeoTron | so can you download beta without being in it? |
| 23:03.19 | NeoTron | figured if so I should download it early.. :) |
| 23:03.23 | Aiiane | I would assume so NeoTron |
| 23:03.30 | Aiiane | considering there are torrent links for it |
| 23:03.40 | NeoTron | might be password protected .. but I guess even alpha wasn't |
| 23:03.55 | NivFreak | it's not |
| 23:03.58 | NivFreak | I have it installed |
| 23:04.03 | NivFreak | wotlkwiki has links |
| 23:04.28 | nevcairiel | Aiiane: errors? do show, and i can help |
| 23:04.42 | NivFreak | wotlkwiki.info |
| 23:04.59 | Aiiane | well, I guess first question is should it be LibStub'd |
| 23:05.31 | nevcairiel | Oh yeah of course, LibStub("AceDBOptions-3.0"):GetOptionsTable |
| 23:05.39 | Aiiane | nods |
| 23:05.42 | nevcairiel | i thought that was obvious and was lazy typing before |
| 23:05.48 | Aiiane | :P |
| 23:05.53 | Aiiane | that's what i had, was just making sure |
| 23:06.35 | Aiiane | grr, sec |
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| 23:09.40 | Aiiane | ok now i feel sort of silly |
| 23:10.05 | Aiiane | well, not really, but turned out i forgot to throw an 'args' in there |
| 23:10.18 | Aiiane | so it was trying to validate options.profile and failing, when it needed options.args.profile |
| 23:10.28 | Aiiane | since the top level is a group |
| 23:10.29 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 23:11.16 | Aiiane | works now.. thanks :) |
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| 23:12.09 | nevcairiel | Good |
| 23:12.14 | nevcairiel | then i can go sleep now :) |
| 23:13.18 | nevcairiel | waves |
| 23:13.19 | nevcairiel | 'nite |
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| 23:20.49 | NivFreak | so |
| 23:21.00 | NivFreak | there's a wolf in BEM that can be tamed by alliance hunters |
| 23:21.14 | NivFreak | and it's 2-4 times the height of the hunter when tamed |
| 23:22.05 | NivFreak | er, 2-3 |
| 23:22.15 | NeoTron | how big is that wolf normally exactly? |
| 23:22.23 | NeoTron | is it a rare spawn or something? |
| 23:22.28 | NivFreak | rema |
| 23:22.29 | NivFreak | is the name |
| 23:22.40 | NivFreak | it's a quest objective |
| 23:22.41 | NeoTron | because I might just go get me a wolf! |
| 23:22.44 | NivFreak | go get one |
| 23:22.47 | NeoTron | alliance? |
| 23:22.53 | NeoTron | or horde? |
| 23:22.55 | NivFreak | only alliance yea |
| 23:22.58 | NivFreak | sadly |
| 23:23.06 | NeoTron | is it in the l70 only area? |
| 23:23.13 | NeoTron | because I finished the rest I thought |
| 23:23.14 | NivFreak | not sure |
| 23:23.16 | NivFreak | screenshot incoming |
| 23:23.31 | NeoTron | oh I see |
| 23:23.34 | NeoTron | it's that wolf |
| 23:23.39 | NeoTron | I know who it is now |
| 23:24.03 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/pics/rema.jpeg |
| 23:24.07 | chiper | huh, I thought they fixed that bug |
| 23:24.09 | NivFreak | excuse my alt priests cluttered UI |
| 23:24.20 | NivFreak | chiper: in 2.4.3 it got worse, not it even looks big to the hunter |
| 23:24.40 | chiper | that effect only lasts till relog tho, right? |
| 23:24.50 | Zyndrome | wut |
| 23:24.50 | NeoTron | well that'd be a bummer |
| 23:24.50 | NivFreak | that I'm not sure about |
| 23:24.52 | NivFreak | I'm horde |
| 23:24.58 | Zyndrome | better get my dwarf hunter there then |
| 23:25.03 | NeoTron | I'd love a huge wolf |
| 23:25.09 | NeoTron | I'll get her tonight and see |
| 23:25.10 | Zyndrome | before its fixed :p |
| 23:25.36 | Tenchworks | that looks like something you'd use to tank an ogre |
| 23:25.41 | chiper | it's a case of the system not properly turning the npc into a pet. |
| 23:26.08 | chiper | it happens with all other named beasts to |
| 23:26.11 | chiper | *too |
| 23:26.22 | NeoTron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZSY3kUiV2A |
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| 23:26.57 | Zyndrome | apparently a random occassion |
| 23:27.05 | Zyndrome | looks normal to some, giant to others |
| 23:27.40 | NivFreak | not since 2.4.3 |
| 23:27.46 | NivFreak | looks big to everyone apparently |
| 23:28.00 | Neya | I want a pet of that size, a bit cumbersome indoors though. |
| 23:28.14 | NivFreak | take her to a gruul kill or something |
| 23:28.15 | NivFreak | for fun |
| 23:28.47 | Neya | reminds me of the double sen'jin growthbuffs and hs to orgrimmar, can't get out of the damn inn if you were a tauren... |
| 23:28.55 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:28.59 | NivFreak | where's my screenshot of that |
| 23:29.13 | thul | http://img4.nettby.no/users/l/i/s/lissie85/4.jpg?1216198627 <- have I seen too much pr0n if I think "cumshot" when I see that? :-P |
| 23:29.21 | chiper | looks like you can tame gahz'rilla on the horde side to get the same kind of thing |
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| 23:30.21 | chiper | thul: no |
| 23:30.50 | chiper | tho, I have seen too much porn, so my opinion may be skewed |
| 23:30.53 | Dezzimal | is click2cast broken? what slash command can I use to access it? |
| 23:31.30 | thul | chiper: haha, ok .. :-P |
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| 23:32.32 | NivFreak | Neya: http://casualcorps.com/pics/bigsheep.jpeg |
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| 23:32.38 | NivFreak | Neya: I was bored one day |
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| 23:33.24 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r78949 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ThreatClassModuleCore.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua): |
| 23:33.25 | CIA-45 | Threat-2.0: |
| 23:33.25 | CIA-45 | - Update Petrify skill to zero the tank's threat (Chaos Gazer, Sunwell Plateau). |
| 23:33.25 | CIA-45 | - Fix an error from occurring if the player uses Sunder Armor while mind controlled. |
| 23:33.38 | Neya | haha |
| 23:35.29 | Neya | gotta love how big one can become by stacking different buffs. |
| 23:37.06 | chiper | or how tiny |
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| 23:37.24 | Neya | that too. |
| 23:37.35 | Zyndrome | bleh, need 2 more levels to tame that wolf |
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| 23:38.49 | Corveroth | Alrighty, I'm having a problem with an addon. All of a sudden, people (other than myself) that are running into errors involving no longer finding AceGUI-3.0. |
| 23:39.04 | Corveroth | That are running it run into errors |
| 23:39.50 | Corveroth | What the hell might I have done wrong? |
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| 23:40.38 | Arrowmaster | not done your externals correctly? |
| 23:41.38 | Corveroth | I've double-checked, everything looks right. Haven't changed 'em lately anyways. Verified that the files *do* exist for at least one person running the addon. |
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| 23:42.07 | Aiiane | corve: got an exact error message? |
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| 23:42.26 | Corveroth | Outta Swatter: |
| 23:42.26 | Corveroth | Message: ...nfig-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua line 15: |
| 23:42.26 | Corveroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.44 | Aiiane | ok then.. what's the previous error (is it a cascade issue?) |
| 23:43.15 | Corveroth | That's the first error. After that, the addon in question fails to find AddToBlizOptions |
| 23:43.44 | Corveroth | And that's all. This is also killing Recount/Omen while they run it, of course. |
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| 23:45.12 | Aiiane | also, which addon is yours again? |
| 23:45.17 | Corveroth | DrumCoord |
| 23:46.04 | Corveroth | Worst part is, I know that this is almost definitely a case of me doing something Very Stupid. |
| 23:46.36 | Lysithea | Shadowed in sspvp how do I move that little blackbox with statusinfo? |
| 23:46.41 | Lysithea | I cant figure it out Oo |
| 23:46.50 | Kuosi | hum |
| 23:46.53 | Kuosi | sec |
| 23:47.03 | Kuosi | overlay |
| 23:47.06 | Kuosi | unlock it |
| 23:47.07 | Kuosi | and go |
| 23:47.13 | Lysithea | ah there |
| 23:47.13 | Lysithea | thanks |
| 23:47.19 | Lysithea | how'd I miss that |
| 23:47.46 | Kuosi | about sspvp |
| 23:48.03 | Kuosi | do the new versions have that eye spawn @ arenas |
| 23:48.05 | Kuosi | mine doesnt =( |
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| 23:51.01 | Aiiane | I dunno Corveroth :/ everything in your project looks fine to me, from what I can see on fisheye |
| 23:54.46 | Corveroth | Well, whatever it is, it's just the latest version, it seems |
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