00:02.41 | CIA-45 | 03Tunga * r78822 10BuffBot/BuffBot.lua: |
00:02.41 | CIA-45 | BuffBot: |
00:02.41 | CIA-45 | * Added basic intelligent targeting, currently bugged with offline raid members and similar. |
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00:05.03 | copystring | files.wowace.com lagging? WAU shows me last updated addon 16hours ago :\ |
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00:12.32 | Corveroth | With AceTimer-3.0, if there anything I should be doing beyond simply cancelling timers when I'm done with them? My memory use is sky-high for some reason. |
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00:14.15 | fewyn | was there just a new version of wau pushed out? |
00:15.34 | Stanzilla | yes |
00:16.30 | fewyn | nice |
00:17.53 | Dark_Elf | is gonna miss files.wowace :( at first i didnt like it but after i figured out the numbering system, i kind of liked and was able to manage my downloads to whole numbers, some sites i notice that if they update a comment or something the files gets pushed to the top, making it harder to tell if the addon got changed or not |
00:18.53 | Antiarc | Okay, someone tell me how to open the talent frame via script |
00:18.57 | Antiarc | Because I can't seem to do it |
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00:23.35 | Ellipsis | LoadAddon("Blizzard_TalentUI")? :P |
00:24.01 | Antiarc | Did that already. |
00:24.04 | Antiarc | I can't get it to open. |
00:24.33 | selckin | does anyone have some 2.4.3 combatlogs for me please? preferably full(ish) runs of bt/mh/sunwell ? |
00:24.36 | Ellipsis | ShowUIPanel(PlayerTalentFrame)? |
00:24.47 | Antiarc | Also nonfunctional |
00:25.03 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r78823 10Deadened/ (Deadened.toc Modules/oUF_Castbar.lua): Deadened: Add oUF_Castbar module |
00:25.04 | Ellipsis | BlizzardSucks()? |
00:25.16 | Ellipsis | note from wowwiki: always returns very true |
00:25.19 | Thrae | Always good to log all your raids. "IT WAS HUNTARDR, HE AGGRO'D KAEL'THAS!" |
00:35.12 | syeren | Hmm, is Nikkodemus around? |
00:37.45 | Paene | hm...does the zip script not run every 20 mins anymore? |
00:38.13 | syeren | Hahaha. |
00:38.16 | syeren | An Advert on Wow. |
00:38.20 | syeren | *WAU |
00:38.23 | CIA-45 | 03schelli * r78824 10GridAutoFrameSize/GridAutoFrameSize.lua: GridAutoFrameSize : new auto zones added |
00:38.23 | syeren | For Mormon.com |
00:39.54 | RaydenUni | blizzard uploader can't work if wow isn't "installed" ? |
00:40.09 | RaydenUni | it can't find wow.exe |
00:41.13 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: HKLM\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\InstallPath as path string |
00:41.21 | RaydenUni | how do i set this? |
00:41.32 | Xuerian | run regedit |
00:41.39 | RaydenUni | oh |
00:42.19 | syeren | http://fabrikate.org/nicead.jpg |
00:42.21 | RaydenUni | HKLM? |
00:42.23 | RaydenUni | i don't see this |
00:42.24 | RaydenUni | on vista |
00:42.26 | syeren | Kaelten, get some new ads :p |
00:42.32 | Xuerian | greh |
00:42.38 | Xuerian | regedit32? |
00:42.43 | Kaelten | lmao |
00:42.47 | Kaelten | better than a trojan? |
00:42.51 | RaydenUni | i have regedit |
00:42.58 | Xuerian | ah. |
00:43.00 | RaydenUni | it's all HKEY_* stuff |
00:43.06 | Xuerian | yeah hang on |
00:43.10 | syeren | I don't know Kaelten. |
00:43.16 | RaydenUni | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE ? |
00:43.18 | syeren | Considering the destruction religion has brought to this world. |
00:43.22 | Xuerian | Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft (Or the lowest key that exists, likely SOFTWARE), left click on said key, new -> key, add the next (in that case Blizzard Entertainment), till you have SOFTWARE\Blizz... \World of... |
00:43.28 | syeren | I'd probably say a Trojan would be the better choice. |
00:43.50 | Kaelten | na, thtats all self wrought over mans insecurity greed and fear. |
00:44.06 | Xuerian | then select the World of Warcraft key on the left, right click in the right pane, new string, name it InstallPath, and put the path to your wow folder in it, with trailing \ |
00:44.33 | syeren | Maybe so, but religion preys on such weakness in man :p |
00:44.34 | Yssaril | Kaelten: something is screwed up on files http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt |
00:44.56 | Kaelten | someone has an invalid external |
00:46.43 | syeren | Kaelten, did I read something about a new wowace.com design being released soon earlier :P? |
00:46.51 | RaydenUni | Xuerian the path includes wow.exe? |
00:46.53 | Kaelten | syeren: august |
00:47.00 | syeren | Cool cool. |
00:47.07 | syeren | The home page is somewhat dated now :> |
00:47.08 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: Just the folder, eg C:\Games\World of Warcraft\ |
00:47.17 | RaydenUni | hmm |
00:49.07 | RaydenUni | no go |
00:50.02 | RaydenUni | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/Blizzard Entertainment/World of Warcraft/"InstallPath" and the value for that is the directory |
00:50.12 | RaydenUni | although i have wow and BC installers downloaded |
00:50.12 | RaydenUni | installing those now |
00:50.20 | RaydenUni | we'll see if i can just do that |
00:51.13 | RaydenUni | theoretically if my laptop has all of the patches downloaded the desktop can leech those really fast... |
00:51.30 | Xuerian | Greh. |
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00:53.43 | Paene | RaydenUni...why not just copy all of the patches over then? |
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00:53.47 | Paene | via network? |
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00:54.52 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: Do you have a working copy of wow on the lappy? |
00:55.50 | RaydenUni | yeah |
00:57.15 | Xuerian | Run regedit on the laptop, export the Blizzard Entertainment key from it, right click -> edit, change the path, run it on the current computer. Copy the entire wow folder (or whatever you want) onto the current one |
00:57.35 | Xuerian | Takes about 15-20 minutes on a 100mbit lan |
00:58.12 | Kaelten | Anyone figured out what project has the bad external? |
00:59.22 | RaydenUni | the patches folder right? |
00:59.29 | RaydenUni | desktop is downloading 2.3.0... |
00:59.42 | Xuerian | Eh... If it's already updated that far nevermind :p |
00:59.51 | RaydenUni | says it's going to take 2 hours |
00:59.58 | RaydenUni | so much for uberfast leeching speed |
01:00.20 | Xuerian | You can just copy wow over wholesale from the laptop (Over wired lan preferably..) and play without doing anything else |
01:01.09 | Xuerian | Which, honestly, is how all games should be... |
01:01.10 | Xuerian | >_> |
01:01.12 | RaydenUni | yeah |
01:01.13 | RaydenUni | i did this |
01:01.21 | RaydenUni | but then when the patch came out, couldn't install the patch |
01:02.14 | Xuerian | Export/import the registry key then. You SHOULD be able to put the patch file in the wow folder and run it from there without it being installed, though |
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01:03.38 | RaydenUni | hmm |
01:03.45 | RaydenUni | copied the patch folder and it still wants to download |
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01:04.11 | RaydenUni | oh |
01:04.15 | RaydenUni | it needs 2.0 to 2.3 |
01:04.16 | RaydenUni | grr |
01:04.52 | Xuerian | Yeah... just copy from the laptop, if it's updated |
01:05.08 | RaydenUni | is it only one file i need? |
01:05.17 | RaydenUni | or the whole 9 gig? |
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01:06.15 | aestil | vithos: link your armory for me? |
01:06.17 | aestil | http://armorylite.com/us/Darkspear/fdas |
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01:06.57 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: You need all the files in the wow folder sans patch* stuff and the Data folder. WTF if you want your settings, Interface if you want your addons |
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01:07.59 | RaydenUni | where is the link from the wow account page that lets you download the client? |
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01:08.22 | Xuerian | mrgh. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/wowclient-download.html |
01:08.56 | Xuerian | or http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/bc-splash.htm |
01:09.15 | RaydenUni | i seem to remember there being wow/bc/ and a patch one |
01:09.27 | Xuerian | Huh? |
01:09.31 | Xuerian | you want the updater client? |
01:09.46 | RaydenUni | i downloaded the wow one and the bc installer |
01:09.54 | RaydenUni | so now i'm at ver 2.0.0 or something |
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01:10.26 | Xuerian | Honestly.. unless you have uber internet, just copy over the wow files/data folder |
01:10.56 | RaydenUni | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download_wow.html |
01:11.14 | RaydenUni | oh |
01:11.22 | RaydenUni | but that's a p2p as well |
01:11.22 | RaydenUni | grr |
01:11.44 | Trell | check wowwiki.com - they have http links for patches |
01:11.46 | Xuerian | srsly -_- |
01:11.48 | Xuerian | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2FPatch_mirrors&ei=SuKDSNLNIqHAiAHEjZ3zDQ&usg=AFQjCNHeMGMXltbJyuBoe2ta1nzv_AXAdA&sig2=EO8EOE060RyTtI20AvyqJA |
01:11.53 | Xuerian | hat ju google |
01:11.54 | Xuerian | hat ju |
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01:11.59 | Xuerian | www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
01:12.22 | Paene | ping Kaelten |
01:14.15 | aestil | last time i used it, the mod that puts extra stat information on gear felt like it slowed my computer down a lot. |
01:14.26 | aestil | was that my imagination, or is converting agi to show how much % crit etc an 'expensive' operation? |
01:15.17 | cladhaire | aestil: its not, at all |
01:15.19 | Xuerian | aestil: RatingBuster? |
01:15.31 | Xuerian | If anything, it's the old lib it uses |
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01:15.49 | Xuerian | Which has the ability to give any dev a headache in under a minute |
01:16.30 | aestil | ok. is it the only option for a mod like that then? |
01:17.52 | Xuerian | Unless you just want rating conversions, yes |
01:18.04 | Pkekyo| | where the hell is Koeln? |
01:19.19 | Stanzilla | Germany |
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01:19.54 | Pkekyo| | hmm |
01:19.54 | Pkekyo| | maybe I'll get my stuff tomorrow then :> |
01:20.15 | Pkekyo| | two days and a couple of hours from hong kong to koeln...not bad, really |
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01:21.27 | Xuerian | The hell did you order that was that far away? Some wow gold? |
01:21.40 | Pkekyo| | yes, I'm having it sent with UPS |
01:22.09 | Pkekyo| | :> |
01:22.12 | Xuerian | Watch out, they bust packages all the time. Wouldn't want contraband like that spilling on the streets |
01:22.29 | Pkekyo| | I bought myself some fancypants toys, that's all... |
01:22.29 | Pkekyo| | I'm off though, g'nite |
01:22.35 | Xuerian | 'night :P |
01:26.46 | Arrowmaster | can you detect current camera distance? |
01:28.09 | ulic | I think maybe GetCVar("variable") |
01:28.17 | ulic | don't remember what the camera distance one is. |
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01:28.40 | ulic | oh cameraDistanceMax it looks |
01:29.35 | ulic | & cameraDistanceMaxFactor |
01:29.37 | Arrowmaster | no not the max the current |
01:30.07 | ulic | oh, I don't see anything in the list on wowwiki for that. |
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01:31.39 | Arrowmaster | i think there was a way to get the camera angle right? |
01:33.00 | ulic | bunch of camera stuff on wowwiki, none say angle, and most are like max & min and such. |
01:33.12 | Arrowmaster | i know |
01:33.48 | ulic | I haven't messed with that stuff much except to increase my max camera range |
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01:35.10 | Arrowmaster | i think dont think its a commmonly known of way |
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01:39.28 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: didnt you do something with the current camera angle for cart3? |
01:39.52 | ckknight | no, sadly can't be done |
01:40.46 | starlon | GatherHud changes perspective based on camera pitch. |
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01:43.16 | Bruners | ckknight: is cartographer3 out of beta? |
01:43.29 | ckknight | shrugs |
01:43.32 | ckknight | I dunno anymore |
01:43.36 | ckknight | I'm gonna say yes |
01:43.50 | ckknight | I just released 3.0.8 |
01:44.07 | Bruners | i have been away from wow and anything about it for about 2 months now, so i havent really payed attention |
01:44.14 | ckknight | okay |
01:44.16 | ckknight | yes, then |
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01:50.58 | Pkekyo| | so much for getting some fucking sleep...people've been calling me non-stop since I went to bed |
01:55.26 | Pkekyo| | wtf, my package went from Koeln at 1.51AM, arrived in sweden at 3.02AM, then it left Koeln again at 5.00AM?! |
01:55.55 | Pkekyo| | congrats on making fuck-all sense, UPS |
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02:02.08 | aestil | .9 is the one that i'm excited about |
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02:02.18 | Pkekyo| | aestil: err? |
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02:03.10 | Myakis | best tooltip addon^^? |
02:03.44 | Pkekyo| | not sure it's the best, but CowTip is highly configurable atleast |
02:03.48 | ulic | I use CowTip |
02:04.00 | Myakis | kk |
02:05.59 | Dark_Elf | use to like these cool tooltips, then i got in a battle and the darn things kept interferring with my targetting lol |
02:07.05 | Codayus | Random comment: Half the comments on the Plans for the Future thread are so retarded they make my teeth hurt. |
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02:07.30 | pastamancer | Codayus: so true |
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02:11.13 | Codayus | I can't quite put my finger on what type of comment annoys me the most. The people who don't read the first post, leap to incorrect conclusions, and then complain about them are definetely in the running though. :-/ |
02:12.25 | pastamancer | I'd lean towards the people who have no idea what bandwidth costs |
02:12.35 | Codayus | The "dude, wowace needs money to run?! You shoulda told me, I'd have chipped in a dollar!" posts are pretty funny though. :-) |
02:12.35 | pastamancer | and who want everything on the internet for free |
02:12.42 | pastamancer | haha seriously |
02:12.51 | Codayus | ....heh, jinx. |
02:13.13 | Pkekyo| | pastamancer: nothing wrong with wanting everything for free...expecting it, on the other hand... |
02:13.14 | Dark_Elf | shame the ads didnt work |
02:13.25 | pastamancer | I'd guess wowace takes at least $5k US a month |
02:13.31 | pastamancer | or rather costs |
02:13.37 | Codayus | I *DO* have an idea what bandwidth costs, and I had no idea wowace was doing over 30 tb a month. |
02:14.00 | Antiarc | I like the "wtf, I'm switchign to wowmatrix" comments |
02:14.00 | Dark_Elf | blames self for downloading so much |
02:14.02 | Antiarc | Those are awesome. |
02:14.10 | pastamancer | yeah, the poor server that files.wowace is on is a trooper |
02:14.21 | Pkekyo| | Antiarc: how do you like my comment? |
02:14.26 | Antiarc | Which? |
02:14.30 | Pkekyo| | this one: wtf is going on? :P |
02:14.31 | pastamancer | we went from apache to lighttpd to ngnix |
02:15.07 | Codayus | $5k seems...low to me, because at the scale *I* deal with you can't get bandwidth nearly that cheap. Wowace is...a hell of a lot bigger than anything I have experience with though. :-p |
02:15.19 | Antiarc | nginx is awesome btw |
02:15.28 | pastamancer | I haven't had anything close to real numbers since a year ago |
02:15.38 | Pkekyo| | kaiden touches himself at night |
02:15.51 | pastamancer | so it might have been $5k-ish last year, I wouldn't be surprised if it was double or triple that now |
02:15.54 | Pkekyo| | is he even here? no fun saying it if he's not :< |
02:16.00 | Dark_Elf | i hope wowace keeps at least the sort feature for its downloads, so ya can sort by newest, oldest, alphabetical, etc i kind of liked that feature |
02:16.04 | pastamancer | more fun if you spell his name right :p |
02:16.07 | Codayus | Sounds fair. |
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02:16.12 | ulic | Antiarc: I'm trying to use LibBars and get a bar to fill rather than empty. I've tried passing true & false to SetFill, but it doesn't seem to have any effect. |
02:16.15 | daemoen | hey guys, anyone here pretty familiar with bt3? |
02:16.22 | Antiarc | sec, felmyst |
02:16.25 | Antiarc | I'll check the api in a sec |
02:16.36 | Pkekyo| | pastamancer: I used tab completion, so it's right according to his current displayed nick |
02:16.37 | daemoen | no idea what i managed to do, but somehow, bar4 and 1 are now linked together |
02:16.53 | daemoen | when i assign a skill on bar4, it gets assigned to the same slot on bar1, same for bar1 to bar4 linking |
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02:17.12 | Pkekyo| | daemoen: you screwed something up with bar paging |
02:17.13 | Codayus | Funny how one of the most heated debates in the thread was over...forum software. |
02:17.17 | pastamancer | Pkekyo|: did you mean Kaelten? |
02:18.06 | Pkekyo| | pastamancer: I don't know which one is which...was talking with both last night so it got a bit confusing...either way, one or more of them touch themselves at night :p |
02:18.14 | pastamancer | lol |
02:18.23 | Codayus | *I* heard they touch each other at night. |
02:18.26 | Codayus | Tekkub told me. |
02:18.36 | Antiarc | ulic: true/false should be the right params |
02:18.43 | Antiarc | But I'd have to test to see why it's not working |
02:18.45 | pastamancer | from an admin standpoint, I'm not a huge fan of smf... haven't adminned vb though |
02:18.57 | Pkekyo| | I concur with Codayus |
02:19.06 | Codayus | I run a couple of SMF forums. They're......alright. |
02:19.06 | Antiarc | VB is pretty decent |
02:19.13 | Tekkub | who the what now? |
02:19.37 | ulic | I should be able to SetFill for the group right? |
02:19.48 | Antiarc | Yup |
02:19.49 | Codayus | Haven't tried running vb. But EJ uses VB, and those are some really really nicely run forums. |
02:19.57 | Pkekyo| | Tekkub: you touched the kaiden that told kaelten at night |
02:20.00 | Pkekyo| | ...or something.. |
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02:20.10 | Tekkub | wut |
02:20.12 | ulic | doesn't seem to work for me. I'll move, as I have plenty more to do, and worry about that later. |
02:20.13 | Pkekyo| | .wtb more HBO specials! |
02:20.15 | Aiiane | Well... in the end it's really more about how much effort you put into to the forum |
02:20.47 | Aiiane | SMF, vB, IPB all have their nice aspects and their irks |
02:20.58 | Codayus | Aiiane: Well, yeah. Assuming your forum software of choice has the basic features you want. I'm not sure I've ever seen a function phpBB forum... |
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02:21.06 | Codayus | Er, functioning. |
02:21.26 | Pkekyo| | Tekkub: something about touching and talking atleast |
02:21.34 | Aiiane | 3.0 improved phpbb somewhat in that regard |
02:21.44 | Aiiane | havent had enough chance to play around with it though |
02:21.56 | pastamancer | phpbb doesn't have the best security record :( |
02:22.13 | daemoen | ty Pkekyo |
02:22.15 | daemoen | worked perfect |
02:22.16 | Aiiane | this is true |
02:22.16 | Codayus | So I've heard...but... *shrug* For whatever reason, every forum I hang out at is either SMF or VB... |
02:22.21 | daemoen | bar1s had become enabled |
02:22.45 | Pkekyo| | anyone know wtf daemoen is talking about? |
02:23.11 | ulic | just take the thanks and run |
02:23.12 | Codayus | Bartender? Maybe? |
02:23.20 | Pkekyo| | Codayus: and? :P |
02:23.26 | Codayus | ....and uh...bars! |
02:23.33 | Pkekyo| | has no idea what's going on |
02:23.50 | Codayus | I'll mark that down as "no change" then, shall I? |
02:23.52 | Pkekyo| | bud why'd he thank me? what'd I do? :p |
02:23.56 | Pkekyo| | you do that |
02:24.09 | Myakis | Guys, is there an ACE addon like QuestHelper? |
02:24.12 | Pkekyo| | speaking of no change...or rather...speaking of change; WHY THE HELL IS MY PACKAGE BACK IN KOELN?! |
02:24.34 | Stanzilla | omg ACE |
02:24.35 | Codayus | It's Ace, not ACE. And I dunno, what the hell is QuestHelper? |
02:24.47 | Codayus | Sounds like a crappy addon, just based on the name. |
02:25.02 | Pkekyo| | he's looking for LightHeaded, I guess... |
02:25.04 | Tekkub | it's this big monster addon that supposedly helps yo uquest |
02:25.06 | Myakis | no, questhelper is rather nice ;) but a memoryhog |
02:25.39 | Codayus | That reminds me, I've come to the conlusion that TourGuide may be the coolest addon ever written. |
02:26.54 | Pkekyo| | wth is TG? |
02:26.56 | Dark_Elf | yeah it even got coverage on wowinsider as a questhelper alternative |
02:27.18 | Tekkub | I still say the point when you need to provide a throttle setting for your addon, that's when you've gone too far and are beyond any point of recovery |
02:27.31 | Codayus | Heh |
02:27.52 | Tekkub | yea he wanted to push the article out on patch day since QH broke to "kick them while they're down" |
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02:28.06 | Tekkub | I even took screenies for him cause it was such a great idea |
02:28.10 | Codayus | *snicker* |
02:28.20 | Dark_Elf | haha |
02:28.21 | Tekkub | yes, "Bear" the bear druid is my tauren :) |
02:28.43 | Codayus | .....no comment. |
02:28.56 | Tekkub | it's hard to resist going to the orgy AH to dance and yell "Look it's a dancing Bear!" |
02:29.27 | Codayus | Yes, I can see how it would be... ...for some people. :-) |
02:30.31 | Pkekyo| | not quite right in the head arew e, Tekkub? |
02:32.15 | Codayus | A matter of perspective, I suspect... |
02:32.37 | Codayus | I mean, *I* have never had much fun with the names of any of my characters... |
02:33.14 | Dark_Elf | i do mostly questing with my toons, but the one thing i havent found in the quest addons is one that can tell ya when for example ya got all the Teldrassil quests completed, so ya can move on to auberdine etc |
02:33.14 | Pkekyo| | seeing as my main's name translates into 'shit' in certain languages, I've had a few interesting incidents :p |
02:34.58 | Codayus | Dark_Elf: Two comments. 1) You don't really want to complete ALL the quests in a zone; you'll outlevel the zone too fast now. 2) TourGuide. |
02:35.18 | Groktar | wtb dead muru |
02:35.31 | Groktar | entropius 20% on our second attempt tonight |
02:35.34 | Pkekyo| | Groktar: WTS screenie of it |
02:35.42 | Groktar | haha |
02:35.52 | Pkekyo| | 500g :p |
02:36.09 | Groktar | i'm dpsing on my warrior |
02:36.14 | Groktar | doing like 1500dps on a side |
02:36.15 | Groktar | sad |
02:36.29 | Groktar | our ms warrior is out today >< |
02:36.29 | Dark_Elf | well the only reason is im taking my character to all 4 alliance towns and i just dont know what i got completed and how much is left. gets confusing with 10 characters lol |
02:36.51 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
02:37.05 | Pkekyo| | Groktar: server? your name seems far too familiar |
02:37.37 | Groktar | daggerspine |
02:37.42 | Groktar | us |
02:38.02 | Pkekyo| | gotta know the name from somewhere else then |
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02:39.39 | Tekkub | Pkekyo|, yea I have one that name translate rougly into penis of the bear |
02:39.47 | Tekkub | noone's said anything |
02:40.35 | Pkekyo| | Tekkub: what language? :p |
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02:40.43 | Tekkub | JP |
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02:40.50 | Pkekyo| | kek |
02:41.06 | RaydenUni | i copied my mods into my new wow install and it lost all the settings? |
02:41.10 | RaydenUni | i thought it remembered them |
02:41.20 | Tekkub | RaydenUni, WTF |
02:41.21 | Antiarc | Not if you didn't copy your WTF folder |
02:42.00 | RaydenUni | oh |
02:42.01 | RaydenUni | grr |
02:43.05 | RaydenUni | at least that means i do'nt have to reset everything |
02:43.10 | RaydenUni | can't seem to get bartender to work |
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02:44.19 | Antiarc | you aren't copying to beta are you? |
02:45.40 | RaydenUni | no |
02:45.43 | RaydenUni | new desktop install |
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02:46.09 | RaydenUni | but i'm int he middle of ZA |
02:46.13 | RaydenUni | so my bars being all messed up sucks |
02:46.20 | Groktar | so far we've made it to p2 every attempt except for the one a tank dc'd tonight |
02:46.23 | Groktar | spits on mu'ru |
02:46.46 | Thrae | RaydenUni: It's generally not a good idea to raid RIGHT after you do a reinstallation of WoW and add mods into the mix. |
02:47.22 | Tekkub | anyone actually IN the beta yet and can get me something? |
02:47.24 | RaydenUni | :D |
02:47.28 | RaydenUni | Thrae even better |
02:47.36 | Seerah | Question: using Ace3-Config, is there any reason why a slider with a positive min number behaves, but one with a negative min wigs out? |
02:48.02 | RaydenUni | killed 2 bosses on my laptop |
02:48.02 | Aiiane | define 'wigs out' |
02:48.07 | RaydenUni | THEN switched to my new desktop install |
02:48.07 | RaydenUni | :D |
02:48.20 | Tekkub | thinks cair should send the first batch |
02:48.22 | Aiiane | so swap back to your laptop :P |
02:48.35 | Thrae | RaydenUni: Copy your WTF folder from your laptop and log out and back in |
02:49.04 | Seerah | tek: I think kd3 is in it |
02:49.09 | RaydenUni | will do before the lynx boss |
02:49.13 | Tekkub | I KNOW KD3 is |
02:49.15 | selckin | logout before you copy |
02:49.21 | Tekkub | the dick, I hate himher |
02:52.18 | Resa | I'm in beta.... |
02:52.41 | Resa | whatcha need? |
02:53.41 | Tekkub | a raw profession link |
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02:53.48 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/20/tradeskill-links-coming-in-wrath |
02:54.00 | Tekkub | I suspect I already know the format, but I want to confirm |
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02:55.59 | RaydenUni | ahhh |
02:56.00 | RaydenUni | there we go |
02:56.03 | RaydenUni | feels like home |
02:58.10 | selckin | where can i find a list of languages wow exists in? |
02:59.37 | selckin | nm |
03:00.10 | Antiarc | Tekkub: I took that screenshot :P |
03:00.13 | Antiarc | Tekkub: It's also encoded |
03:00.15 | Antiarc | Let me get my copy |
03:00.19 | Antiarc | I discovered that today :P |
03:00.29 | Tekkub | "encoded"? |
03:00.35 | Antiarc | ^^cffffd000^^Htrade:51313:375:450:5544C:hooooooooookoooooooomGWRcoNoKlg<kgoOoEP6880000l11^^h[Enchanting]^^h^^r 5 |
03:00.37 | Antiarc | ^^ = | |
03:01.01 | Tekkub | hrm |
03:01.29 | Tekkub | wonder if there's UI code that decodes that somewhere |
03:01.37 | Antiarc | I looked, didn't see it |
03:01.38 | kd3 | here's first aid with everything up to runecloth bandage: |cffffd000|Htrade:3273:270:300:5774C:m;7Pn?|h[First Aid]|h|r |
03:01.46 | Antiarc | The function to build that link is in the API, not the UI |
03:02.36 | Seerah | so... anyone have any hints for me on why, when I have a negative min in an AceConfig range slider, the slider stays glued to the left side and won't move? :( |
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03:04.54 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/Blizzard Interface Data (enUS).zip |
03:04.56 | Antiarc | Forgive the spaces |
03:05.02 | Antiarc | But that's the current woltk UI extract |
03:05.10 | Tekkub | so hrm... it looks like |c<color>|Htrade:<spellid>:<skill>:<maxskill>:<something>C:<encoded bits> |
03:05.19 | kd3 | oh crap... interface diffs |
03:05.22 | kd3 | knew I was forgetting something |
03:05.36 | Tekkub | what's the build number there anti? :) |
03:05.42 | Antiarc | sec |
03:05.44 | Tekkub | and you forgot the addons |
03:05.54 | Tekkub | oh no, one level in |
03:05.54 | Tekkub | duh |
03:05.57 | Antiarc | felmyst |
03:06.00 | kd3 | cur build's 8634 |
03:06.53 | Tekkub | I only see TradeSkillUI... they get rid of craftUI finally? |
03:07.14 | kd3 | yes |
03:07.18 | Diao | wiat |
03:07.24 | Diao | they're making enchanting sellable on ah? |
03:07.26 | Tekkub | slashdance |
03:07.30 | Diao | or is that comment on wowinsider wrong |
03:07.43 | kd3 | I've seen links to chanting scrolls. |
03:07.49 | kd3 | remember, we're still in beta, things can and will change |
03:07.53 | Antiarc | They are |
03:07.57 | Antiarc | Inscribers make scrolls |
03:07.58 | Diao | that's awesome |
03:08.04 | Antiarc | enchanters enchant the scroll |
03:08.10 | Diao | so enchanting will complement inscribing? |
03:08.23 | Antiarc | Yes |
03:08.27 | Antiarc | Well, sorta |
03:08.34 | Diao | i saw a cool inscribing pattern |
03:08.41 | Diao | you can make hearth scrolls! |
03:08.45 | Diao | i wonder what the cooldown on them is |
03:10.12 | Antiarc | herb is the complement to inscription |
03:10.19 | Antiarc | But it will work well with enchanting |
03:11.15 | Antiarc | You just need an inscriber to feed you parchment |
03:11.18 | Antiarc | And you're gravy |
03:11.24 | Diao | meh screw herbing |
03:11.26 | Diao | gathering professions suck |
03:11.29 | Tenchworks | oh man more reason to level up my farming mage |
03:11.42 | Antiarc | It makes me kinda sad |
03:11.42 | Diao | i think i'll drop bs and pick up inscription on my warrior |
03:11.42 | Antiarc | Enchanting gets awesome BOP wands |
03:11.45 | Antiarc | Except I'm a rogue |
03:11.47 | Diao | bs gets nothing cool |
03:11.48 | Antiarc | I've had enchanting since day 1 |
03:11.49 | Diao | at all. |
03:11.51 | Tenchworks | herbalist/miner so gonna be making tons of cash at 80 |
03:11.52 | Antiarc | I have all kinds of patterns |
03:12.01 | Antiarc | And I don't want to drop enchanting to be forced to min-max for raids. |
03:12.01 | Diao | yeah i have basically every ench recipe in the game and i'm a warrior |
03:12.16 | Diao | isn't enchanting part of min-maxing for raids? |
03:12.21 | Diao | for ring enchs :o |
03:12.25 | Antiarc | Well |
03:12.28 | Antiarc | You have leatherworking |
03:12.30 | Antiarc | Err |
03:12.32 | Antiarc | Skinning |
03:12.36 | Antiarc | Which is now +25 crit rating |
03:12.44 | Diao | wtf |
03:12.45 | Antiarc | Which seems like it'd be more beneficial |
03:12.50 | Diao | 25 crit rating for just being a skinner? |
03:12.52 | Antiarc | And mining gets +35 stamina |
03:12.53 | Antiarc | Yes |
03:13.01 | Diao | that's messed up |
03:13.08 | Diao | why would you get random stats for being a profession |
03:13.22 | Antiarc | "Master of Anatomy" for skinning |
03:13.22 | cladhaire | why not? |
03:13.23 | Aiiane | ask enchanters :P |
03:13.26 | vithos | because tailors don't have to have "undressing" as a profession |
03:13.27 | Antiarc | You skinned a lot, you know the weak points, etc |
03:13.28 | Aiiane | that's basically what we have |
03:13.40 | Diao | no |
03:13.45 | Diao | because you can enchant your rings and drop enchanting |
03:13.48 | Diao | and still have the bonus :P |
03:13.49 | Antiarc | Mining is "All that pick-swinging has made you extra tough, have 35 stam" |
03:13.59 | cladhaire | I think they're fun |
03:14.03 | Aiiane | sure, if it's 6months till the next expansion |
03:14.04 | Antiarc | I like them too |
03:14.06 | cladhaire | just a bit of flavor |
03:14.07 | Aiiane | and thus you'll never upgrade your rings |
03:14.09 | Tenchworks | any word on what herbalism gets? |
03:14.11 | Antiarc | I'm just sad that enchanting's BOPs are so caster-heavy |
03:14.13 | Antiarc | None yet |
03:14.18 | Diao | uh |
03:14.25 | Diao | isn't there a new AP ench for rings |
03:14.29 | Antiarc | Not that I saw |
03:14.31 | Diao | i remember seeing something like that |
03:14.33 | Antiarc | Maybe though |
03:14.37 | Antiarc | But I mean the wands |
03:14.38 | Diao | also |
03:14.40 | Antiarc | Crafted crap |
03:14.41 | Diao | did stam get devalued again |
03:14.42 | Aiiane | well, even if not |
03:14.47 | Antiarc | No |
03:14.48 | Aiiane | stats to rings is still decent |
03:14.55 | Diao | because currently |
03:14.59 | Diao | you get a 2:3 ratio |
03:15.01 | Diao | of other stats to stam |
03:15.04 | Diao | on epic gems |
03:15.14 | Diao | but the new gem is a 5:9 ratio |
03:15.19 | Diao | which is way better |
03:15.29 | Aiiane | is it a regular gem, or a bop gem? |
03:15.42 | Diao | well |
03:15.44 | Diao | it's 50ap bop |
03:15.48 | Diao | vs 45 stam bop |
03:15.52 | Diao | 50 ap -> 25 str conversion |
03:16.01 | Aiiane | bop gems dont really count, they have odd numbers |
03:16.56 | Groktar | entropius 16% |
03:16.57 | Groktar | >< |
03:17.14 | Diao | even so |
03:18.11 | Tekkub | <OnMouseWheel> |
03:18.12 | Tekkub | return; |
03:18.12 | Tekkub | </OnMouseWheel> |
03:18.18 | Tekkub | epic blizzard failure |
03:18.21 | Diao | the current epic gems only give 18 stam |
03:18.47 | KriLL3 | someone in here told me how to use dogtags in Pitbull to show an icon with the player's main talent, I forgot to write it down, again please? :) |
03:18.47 | Diao | vs 24 ap, which is a 2:3 conversion still |
03:18.55 | Diao | [talentspec] or uh |
03:18.58 | Diao | something else i forget |
03:19.04 | Diao | didn't know there was an icon for it too though |
03:19.27 | KriLL3 | is there a page/site that lists this stuff? looking on wowace but it's very limited |
03:20.00 | Seerah | alright, screw it... I'll just anchor to the bottom left and only have positive values >< |
03:20.01 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
03:20.02 | Aiiane | ? |
03:20.08 | KriLL3 | ? |
03:20.14 | Aiiane | type that ingame |
03:20.24 | aestil | sounds like LW is going to continue to be the dps raiding proffesion of choice. |
03:21.16 | aestil | Along with the usual Mob Name and Health, I want a nameplate mod that shows mob health, current/total and % as well as threat value and threat as a % of the mobs health. It would change the name plate in some way to indicate that you've reached a target %. |
03:21.24 | Hjalte | aestil: What about tinnitus? |
03:21.32 | Tekkub | well damnit, I can't find anywhere where trade link clicks are handled |
03:21.49 | aestil | i'm not familiar with that. |
03:22.15 | KriLL3 | Aiiane: all I find in there shows a text not an icon |
03:22.36 | Aiiane | i wasnt aware of an icon anyways :P |
03:22.38 | aestil | Hjalte: where would i find that? |
03:23.14 | Hjalte | aestil: I mean for LW to be the dps raiding prof, tinnitus would get in the way :) |
03:23.27 | aestil | tinnitus? |
03:23.40 | Tekkub | tittius? |
03:23.49 | aestil | i'm confused. |
03:24.18 | aestil | anways, i think what i want to do with the threat information can be accomplished |
03:25.55 | Hjalte | aestil: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=51120 |
03:26.41 | aestil | Hjalte: ah, yes, but if i have a flat crit rating bonus just for being a LW, then, its still worth having. |
03:27.08 | Hjalte | aestil: Oh, what's that? |
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03:27.27 | aestil | antiarc is saying that you get 25 crit rating or something like that for being LW |
03:27.32 | Antiarc | Skinning |
03:29.08 | KriLL3 | so no one knows how to display an icon with your target's main talent tree? |
03:29.26 | Antiarc | Tekkub: What are you planning to do with the trade links? |
03:29.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Quaiche] by ChanServ |
03:29.38 | Tekkub | what do you think? cache them! |
03:29.42 | Antiarc | Hah |
03:29.45 | Antiarc | Good plan |
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03:29.58 | Antiarc | I should cache them in chatter >_> |
03:30.00 | Tekkub | and probably make some nice guild addon channel auto-trading |
03:30.15 | Antiarc | If you can figure out how to index them |
03:30.22 | Antiarc | So I can search for someone with a specific pattern |
03:30.24 | Antiarc | That would be uberhot |
03:30.28 | Tekkub | the problem, of course, is querying that list of tradeskills for who can make the item you want |
03:30.54 | Tekkub | we'll see in a week or so, it's the first thing I'll hit after I get my addons all working |
03:31.01 | Antiarc | Nice :D |
03:31.05 | Antiarc | Keep me posted, I'm very interested |
03:31.22 | Tekkub | hopefully I can bribe slow ken into giving us a docoder or at least a query function |
03:31.43 | Antiarc | I suspect there's a decoder somewhere |
03:31.47 | Tekkub | I don't want to have to open the tradeskill(If I even can) and cache the item/spell ids |
03:31.51 | Antiarc | yeah |
03:31.59 | Tekkub | I can't even find where the link click is handled |
03:32.06 | Antiarc | I couldn't either :( |
03:32.39 | Tekkub | might help to save a few links as new recipes are learned and see if we can reveng it |
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03:38.30 | Antiarc | Shouldn't be hard with learner recipes |
03:38.35 | Antiarc | I suspect it's just base X encoded |
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03:40.57 | Antiarc | I've noted a-z, A-Z, 0-9, _, < |
03:41.39 | Antiarc | LOTS of lowercase "o" |
03:41.54 | Antiarc | Which says "padding/buffer/zero" |
03:43.50 | Antiarc | |cffffd000|Htrade:33359:375:375:5544C:fOkgoookoomKOoooog0000<oO|h[Cooking]|h|r - that's maxed cooking, nearly all recipes |
03:44.20 | Antiarc | |cffffd000|Htrade:51313:375:450:5544C:hooooooooookoooooooomGWRcoNoKlg<kgoOoEP6880000l11|h[Enchanting]|h|r - again, 375, lots of recipes |
03:46.00 | KriLL3 | does anyone know of an addon that lets you add icons representing your target's main talent tree to the target frame? |
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03:46.03 | Poul|Raider | hello |
03:46.38 | Poul|Raider | any good place to see what changed on the LUA API etc with wotlk? |
03:46.46 | Antiarc | Not yet |
03:46.49 | Antiarc | But I need to start a page |
03:46.52 | Antiarc | Because I've found a few |
03:46.57 | Antiarc | There's a thread in the UI forums |
03:47.00 | Antiarc | But it's very incomplete |
03:47.05 | Poul|Raider | i can just say alot of my addons broke :D |
03:47.11 | Poul|Raider | so something changed atleast |
03:47.15 | Antiarc | You can't really port them over wholesale |
03:47.18 | Antiarc | Lots of things changed |
03:47.21 | Poul|Raider | naa i know :) |
03:47.33 | KriLL3 | meaning most older ace addons will be history? |
03:47.34 | Poul|Raider | but i was more interesting in seeing the changes, and not porting |
03:47.52 | Poul|Raider | im sure alot of people here will do a good job at porting em |
03:48.22 | Garoun|Loupana | The main thing is giving full, good bug reports if you want something fixed :) |
03:48.31 | Garoun|Loupana | not just... this doesn't work |
03:48.32 | Poul|Raider | but just waiting for the day when they unluck the chars |
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03:49.26 | Poul|Raider | ye ye Garoun|Loupana i know |
03:49.58 | Poul|Raider | but im not using that many addons etc, was hoping to find a post about changes |
03:50.06 | Poul|Raider | see if there was anything gamebreaking |
03:50.43 | Poul|Raider | speaking of gamebreaking, i just heard from a friend that he got an addon that makes it posible to see mediaplayer within wow or well, make you see the mediaplayer behind wow? |
03:51.17 | Poul|Raider | i must admit i didnt belive him, but he was so sure he was right that i got curius |
03:51.23 | Hjalte | Just have media player stay on top and play wow in windowed mode. |
03:51.30 | Shirik | ^ |
03:51.36 | Shirik | it is theoretically possible to make a media player in WoW |
03:51.40 | Shirik | it's not entirely useful though |
03:51.42 | Poul|Raider | Hjalte, and that dont realy answer the question :D |
03:51.57 | Shirik | however, addons can have zero interaction with the outside world |
03:51.57 | Shirik | period |
03:52.03 | Poul|Raider | agree |
03:52.19 | Poul|Raider | but what he said it was doing was just making a black box that made him see the destop behind wow |
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03:52.38 | Arrowmaster | lol old trick |
03:52.39 | Shirik | uh, no. You can't get behind WorldFrame |
03:52.43 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: ? |
03:52.44 | KriLL3 | does anyone know of an addon that lets you add an icon representing your target's main talent tree to the target frame? |
03:52.54 | Poul|Raider | so Arrowmaster, whats the deal :) |
03:52.56 | Shirik | I'm confused now |
03:53.05 | Poul|Raider | :D |
03:53.25 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: remember the dvd player software when the ability to play dvds on your desktop? |
03:53.41 | Shirik | no |
03:53.47 | Arrowmaster | like behind the icons |
03:54.26 | Arrowmaster | some rendering methods just draw the video ontop of a certain preset color |
03:54.57 | Poul|Raider | so the addon just made abox with a color that the player could draw ontop? |
03:55.15 | Arrowmaster | if you try to take a screenshot with printscreen in those render modes you just got a solid colored box |
03:55.20 | Arrowmaster | in place of the video |
03:55.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah the addon just makes a colored box |
03:55.31 | Poul|Raider | ye understandable |
03:55.36 | Poul|Raider | oki |
03:55.43 | selckin | you can draw anything on top of opengl/directx output |
03:55.46 | Arrowmaster | it just has to be the right color and the right place |
03:56.00 | selckin | like teamspeak names |
03:56.02 | Shirik | I see Arrowmaster |
03:56.03 | Arrowmaster | selckin: yeah this is super old trick though before overlays |
03:56.09 | Poul|Raider | you know anything about the methods used for the drawing ontop of a colored box |
03:56.15 | Arrowmaster | like from the windows 98/me days |
03:56.29 | Poul|Raider | i wouldnt mind maknig my self alittle tool that could do that with whatever i wanted in my wow :D |
03:56.41 | Antiarc | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API_(Changes_from_2.4.3_to_3.0) |
03:56.43 | Arrowmaster | not sure what render modes do it |
03:56.44 | Antiarc | For future reference |
03:57.02 | selckin | shouldn't be hard to find in google |
03:57.03 | Arrowmaster | but mediaplayerclassic has a lot of options for render modes you could try |
03:57.15 | selckin | does anyone have some 2.4.3 combatlogs for me please? preferably full(ish) runs of bt/mh/sunwell ? |
03:57.16 | Poul|Raider | could be nice if you could make it draw a little browser ontop of a box inside wow :D |
03:57.32 | selckin | windowed mode + always on top |
03:57.36 | selckin | :x |
03:57.37 | Arrowmaster | Poul|Raider: you can do that with directx overlays |
03:57.47 | RaydenUni | hmm |
03:57.48 | Poul|Raider | oki, might take a look into that |
03:57.51 | Arrowmaster | was even a recent article on one in pcgamer |
03:58.00 | Poul|Raider | selckin, i dont want your haxes :D |
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03:58.07 | selckin | still can't interact with it normally, so no that usefull |
03:58.17 | Arrowmaster | although that exact one i tried a year ago and it seriously made my system unstable since it was just out of closed alpha |
03:58.21 | RaydenUni | jan'alai with 4 druids |
03:58.23 | selckin | my suggestions are the least hackish |
03:58.26 | RaydenUni | 3 feral and 1 resto |
03:58.27 | RaydenUni | heh |
03:58.39 | RaydenUni | no aoe |
03:58.59 | selckin | Poul|Raider: anyway, screw you to |
03:59.07 | Poul|Raider | :D |
03:59.37 | Poul|Raider | wasent trying to insult you :) |
04:00.36 | Arrowmaster | www.playxpert.com was the one i was talking about for overlays |
04:00.42 | Poul|Raider | oki |
04:01.13 | Arrowmaster | make a system restore point before installing it |
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04:01.41 | Arrowmaster | it overwrote some of my graphics drivers a year ago when i tried it |
04:01.46 | Arrowmaster | no clue if it still does |
04:01.53 | Poul|Raider | oki, will remember for when trying it out |
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04:02.27 | Arrowmaster | i wasnt really impressed with the quality of it but its the only game in town if you know what i mean |
04:03.05 | Arrowmaster | i seriously know of no other projects trying to use directx overlays to do anything similair |
04:05.51 | RaydenUni | rofl |
04:05.57 | RaydenUni | paladin tank couldn't killed the hatcher guy |
04:06.01 | RaydenUni | so we had about 30 dragonhawks |
04:06.28 | Garoun|Loupana | you never leave your tank to kill the hatcher :/ |
04:06.53 | selckin | you spawn the entire side anyway with a paladin tank |
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04:07.46 | RaydenUni | we ahve no aoe |
04:07.53 | Arrowmaster | we poped all eggs in one set of adds once i think |
04:07.57 | RaydenUni | no mage no warlock |
04:08.00 | RaydenUni | just a hunter |
04:08.05 | Antiarc | Tekkub: Clue for you |
04:08.07 | Antiarc | |cffffd000|Htrade:%d:%d:%d:%I64X: |
04:08.09 | Antiarc | Found that in Wow.exe |
04:08.35 | Arrowmaster | hexeditor ftw |
04:10.03 | selckin | whats the I mod again? |
04:10.06 | selckin | X is hex :\ |
04:12.56 | Shirik | lua> string.format("%I64X", 1) |
04:12.57 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: invalid option '%I' to 'format' |
04:13.06 | Shirik | probably pulled over from 5.0 |
04:13.11 | Shirik | or was it lua 4... |
04:13.12 | Shirik | I forget |
04:13.32 | Paene | bah...files.wowace.com needs to update! |
04:14.00 | Lukian | we've successfully popped and killed all the adds at 35% a couple times :D |
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04:18.43 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78825 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: fix ruRU translations |
04:18.56 | Antiarc | I64X is a longlong in hex |
04:21.09 | RaydenUni | blast |
04:21.16 | RaydenUni | wiped on jan'alai and then 2 had to go |
04:21.18 | RaydenUni | he is a fun fight |
04:21.59 | Antiarc | "The "I64" specifier tells the compiler the number is a 64-bit integer (this also works for "long" integers by specifying "I32", for 32-bit integers). Adding the "X" says the integer is outputted as an unsigned hexadecimal integer with capital letters." |
04:23.25 | Xinhuan | wtb ability to fall asleep on the bed |
04:28.17 | RaydenUni | anything worth buying for a feral druid with 60 badges? |
04:28.20 | RaydenUni | or should i wait until i have 100 |
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04:36.13 | KriLL3 | there is a good ring and cloak |
04:37.47 | KriLL3 | Angelista's Revenge http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34887 Dory's Embrace http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33484 |
04:39.05 | KriLL3 | there is a good tanking cloak for 35 and good tanking ring also |
04:39.36 | KriLL3 | 2 rings actually |
04:39.49 | KriLL3 | one 35 and one 60 |
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05:30.23 | Tekkub | Antiarc, wut wut wut? |
05:30.38 | Antiarc | found that via strings on wow.exe |
05:31.42 | Tekkub | but what does it mean? |
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05:46.16 | Neffi | [Ammo]: You there? |
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05:52.11 | Antiarc | Well, I'd guess that you should start looking at 64-bit hex strings |
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05:52.37 | Antiarc | It's still encoded somehow, but if you try to find a way to transcode it ti A-F, 0-9 it may make more sense |
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05:59.46 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78826 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
05:59.46 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: |
05:59.46 | CIA-45 | - fix ruRU translation in Babble-Faction-2.2 |
05:59.46 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU translation in Babble-SpellTree-2.2 |
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06:07.26 | Groktar | mu'ru 17% >< |
06:07.48 | Groktar | er, i should say entropius |
06:11.07 | Groktar | http://wowwebstats.com/phrg4gqaywfp5?s=122-534 :( |
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06:18.11 | CIA-45 | 03jayhawk * r78827 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (3 files): |
06:18.11 | CIA-45 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
06:18.11 | CIA-45 | - 2.4.6 - removed cooldown for Mooncloth (Patch 2.4.3) |
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06:25.33 | Orionshock | can you set secure attribs in the "PlayerRegenDisbaled" Event handler? |
06:26.17 | nevcairiel | yes |
06:26.24 | nevcairiel | last place before lockdown |
06:26.35 | Orionshock | k |
06:26.53 | Orionshock | oddly enough im updating one of my crack pot addons |
06:27.08 | Orionshock | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8992-TargetRaidIcon-Demo.html |
06:27.33 | Tekkub | key whore |
06:27.40 | Orionshock | ? |
06:27.52 | Tekkub | cair! ban Orion if he tries to get a key with that crap |
06:28.15 | nevcairiel | haha |
06:29.02 | Orionshock | :D i have 2 real addons on wowi besides that one |
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06:31.06 | Orionshock | i was only the 6th person to app for one .... hehe |
06:32.16 | Tekkub | so hubby watched some DK videos, thinks they're horribly OP |
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07:08.06 | Funkeh` | http://www.vimeo.com/1268045?pg=embed&sec=1268045&hd=1 |
07:08.10 | Funkeh` | brilliant! |
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07:29.38 | just_Bob | hello |
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07:32.47 | Shadowed | Antiarc GRATS YOUR FAMOUS |
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07:36.21 | just_Bob | so the point of useing wowace is for several addons to use the same library, right? so how should addons using wowace point to the libraries to make sure ths is done? |
07:37.34 | cncfanatics | with svn, with externals |
07:37.41 | cncfanatics | its slightly more complicated if you use git |
07:38.34 | just_Bob | im not too sure what svn would be, or git. lol |
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07:40.00 | just_Bob | i was thinking that one folder in the addons folder should be where the libraries are held, and each addon should point to ..\lib\whatever i need, isthat right? if you understand |
07:40.32 | cncfanatics | yes it is |
07:40.36 | cncfanatics | thats exactly what externals do |
07:40.44 | cncfanatics | well, not exactly |
07:40.52 | cncfanatics | each addon holds the libraries it needs inside its own folder |
07:41.02 | MoonWork | in theory |
07:41.18 | cncfanatics | I'm not gonna start discussing disembedding though |
07:41.25 | MoonWork | and there is the stupid lets pull it all out things that update programs seem to like. |
07:41.33 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78828 10WhoLib/WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib-1.0.lua: WhoLib: addad ruRU strings |
07:41.49 | cncfanatics | MoonWork: it does spare bandwidth |
07:42.00 | MoonWork | yeah |
07:42.01 | MoonWork | i know |
07:42.21 | cncfanatics | btw, someone tell me wtf is up with the EU realms |
07:42.28 | cncfanatics | all the realms I have chars on are down :( |
07:42.41 | MoonWork | they are purging you off of them. |
07:42.53 | Neya | I think they made an error with their hotfix that they applied, or something :P |
07:42.54 | cncfanatics | naa |
07:42.56 | just_Bob | so if i make 2 addons, each using several of the same libraries, it would still work however wowace was intended, right? (which was to use less ram, right?) |
07:43.11 | MoonWork | yes, only one copy will remain in memory. |
07:43.21 | cncfanatics | the others will be garbage collected |
07:43.26 | cncfanatics | on the first GC run |
07:43.39 | just_Bob | ok, thanks. i wasn't sure, but i dunno why since it never said anything about that lol |
07:44.01 | cncfanatics | Neya: what did they hotfix ? |
07:44.08 | Neya | the realm my debugging character is on got shut down while I was in the middle of debugging a pice of code, I completly missed all that yellow text xD |
07:44.41 | cncfanatics | hehe |
07:44.43 | Neya | I got no idea, but it was stated on the realmstatus-page that they restared the servers at 5am to apply a hotfix, then the servers got shut down for some reason at 7am. |
07:44.56 | cncfanatics | currently not working on anything, with wotlk changing lots of stuff again I'll wait till I'm in beta |
07:45.06 | Neya | "All World of Warcraft realms from the following battlegroups will be shut down shortly in order to perform an emergency maintenance:" |
07:45.10 | just_Bob | the us servers are going to get "rolling restarts", could the eu servers be getting those too right now? |
07:45.21 | cncfanatics | its not "rolling restards" |
07:45.25 | Neya | and you have almost all battlegroups listed there. |
07:45.27 | cncfanatics | its rolling stay down and don't get back up :p |
07:46.06 | just_Bob | lol |
07:46.13 | just_Bob | ever heard of eqoa? |
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07:51.15 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r78829 10AddonLoader/: AddonLoader: fix externals (guess svn 1.5 eats both orders) |
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07:56.44 | Antiarc | Shadowed: Huh? |
07:57.05 | Shadowed | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
07:57.20 | Antiarc | ROFL |
07:57.21 | Antiarc | SCORE |
07:57.35 | nevcairiel | haha yeah |
07:57.50 | Shadowed | In fact |
07:57.53 | Shadowed | Someone should make a mod that does it |
07:57.57 | Shadowed | I bet it wouldn't be that hard |
07:58.24 | nevcairiel | once we know the achievement system, probably easy to add custom ones |
07:58.50 | [Ammo] | svn 1.5 eats externals in the: http://someexternal/ somedir |
07:58.50 | [Ammo] | form |
07:58.53 | [Ammo] | but 1.4 doesn't :) |
07:59.01 | Shadowed | I'm going to make an addon once I get my beta key I think to do that |
07:59.02 | Shadowed | hmm |
07:59.51 | Shadowed | Figuring out if you wiped because you took aggro could be a little hard thought |
07:59.57 | just_Bob | lol i was going to made an addon that pretty much keeps track of almost everything you do, i think ill try and integrate something like that to go with it lol |
08:00.16 | Shadowed | I guess you could do something like, if X% of raid dies within you taking aggro, you get the achievement |
08:01.52 | cncfanatics | giev plx |
08:01.58 | cncfanatics | I'll do it with healing aggro |
08:02.13 | Shadowed | someone gimmie a beta key |
08:03.01 | cncfanatics | Shadowed: http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html |
08:03.16 | Shadowed | I already entered that |
08:03.41 | Shadowed | But thats not for another week or two |
08:03.47 | cncfanatics | true |
08:03.53 | cncfanatics | glad I don't need my key before august :p |
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08:35.14 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78830 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
08:35.14 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
08:35.14 | CIA-45 | - revamp of 'The Stockade' |
08:36.34 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78831 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
08:36.34 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
08:36.34 | CIA-45 | - revamp of 'The Stockade' |
08:36.34 | CIA-45 | - changed instance structure of loot browser |
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08:54.29 | Zyndrome | GLORP |
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09:27.51 | charon | hmm, the toc stays at 20400 for 2.4.3? |
09:28.41 | Zhinjio | what is the programmatic way of doing a /dump? |
09:28.44 | Zhinjio | I forgot |
09:32.13 | cncfanatics | there is no easy way afaik |
09:32.21 | cncfanatics | at least not for tables |
09:32.32 | charon | there's a DevTools_Dump() in devtools |
09:32.41 | cncfanatics | for booleans, strings or anything not a table do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(tostring(mystuffhere)); |
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09:33.38 | Nargiddley | LibStub("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral() is the ace2 /print one |
09:37.14 | Zhinjio | thanks |
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10:05.16 | Orionshock | WOOT! our guilds first kill on Azgalor :D |
10:05.29 | copystring | grats! |
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10:08.36 | Orionshock | lol [Boundless Agony] drops and it goes to a hunter :\ |
10:12.57 | Antiarc | lol, rogues actually wanted it? |
10:13.05 | vhaarr | What does `/cast !Spell' do, as opposed to `/cast Spell' ? |
10:13.15 | Antiarc | Turns it on if it's toggle-able |
10:13.18 | Antiarc | But won't turn it off |
10:13.20 | Antiarc | Like Autoshot |
10:13.23 | vhaarr | aha, thanks |
10:13.25 | Antiarc | Or Shoot with a wand |
10:13.41 | nevcairiel | also doesnt cast while already casting |
10:13.51 | nevcairiel | or on gcd |
10:19.27 | CIA-45 | 03ananhaid * r78832 10Parrot/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
10:19.27 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
10:19.27 | CIA-45 | - revert last fix about the pet's combatevent change,the locale is not correct. |
10:28.56 | Camci | so when will WAU stop working? :s |
10:29.23 | cncfanatics | Camci: as said in the post, the changes will be pushed mid august |
10:29.25 | cncfanatics | so, mid august ? :p |
10:29.52 | Camci | been 2 days i read the post, i forgot :p but thanks :p |
10:30.14 | Camci | then it will be payed service mid august then i guess :p |
10:30.26 | Trell_ | anyone know if the EU beta keys are out yet? |
10:30.33 | cncfanatics | tbh, I don't like the fact it'll be a paid service |
10:30.39 | cncfanatics | but well, it is kind of needed to pay for the cost |
10:30.44 | cncfanatics | so I won't complain if the fee ain't excessive |
10:31.01 | cncfanatics | Trell_: I know noone who has got one yet, so I'd say not, but I can't be sure |
10:31.33 | Camci | thats a 2 side conflikt tbh, i can imagine the server/bandwith costs, but also it depends how much the service will cost for the users aswell, id buy it tbh :p |
10:32.04 | cncfanatics | if its a fee to pay for the bandwidth, its ok |
10:32.05 | Camci | but if its too much then id rather just update the manually, so hope the price is reasonable :p |
10:32.09 | cncfanatics | if its any more I'm gonna go complain |
10:32.25 | Pneumatus | anyone happen to know what the current wait is on getting a new login/replacement password on the SVN? |
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10:32.26 | cncfanatics | but I trust Kaelten in that, he won't charge more then he needs for the bandwidth |
10:32.37 | Camci | idd |
10:32.46 | cncfanatics | Pneumatus: whenever an admin sees ur request rly |
10:32.50 | cncfanatics | can be a minute, an hour, a day, a week |
10:33.18 | Funkeh` | which xml file do they store class colors in |
10:33.25 | Pneumatus | thought that might be the case, just wondered if they were backed up/holding off with the latest news |
10:33.34 | cncfanatics | I doubt it |
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10:39.03 | ramoz | wowace is gonna cost money? :O |
10:39.12 | Trell_ | wau I think |
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10:39.21 | Trell_ | not wowace as a whole |
10:39.38 | ramoz | didnt he say in the post that he's gonna make it avaiable in curseclient? (the new one= |
10:40.08 | Stanzilla | I think premium users will get the ad-free version of thecurse client |
10:40.32 | ramoz | So people with a premium curse account? |
10:40.38 | Stanzilla | I think so |
10:40.54 | cncfanatics | no |
10:40.59 | cncfanatics | let me quote from the post, one sec |
10:41.23 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
10:41.41 | ramoz | oh, i see |
10:42.02 | cncfanatics | also In addition, WAU will, for the time being, be discontinued as well as it won't be receiving any new content. In the immediate, however, WowAce's content will be available via the new Curse Client that is in development. |
10:42.16 | ramoz | Yeah |
10:42.30 | ramoz | you dont need a premium account to use curse client afaik |
10:42.38 | cncfanatics | to me it looks like the curse client will be avail to anyone |
10:42.46 | ramoz | mm |
10:42.46 | cncfanatics | and all the other updaters to only premium users |
10:42.53 | cncfanatics | that basicly just kills all third party updaters rly |
10:42.57 | CIA-45 | 03Corveroth * r78833 10DrumCoord/ (Core.lua embeds.xml): |
10:42.57 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
10:42.57 | CIA-45 | -Variety of bugfixes; hook up a toggle, fix a dependency and more |
10:43.01 | ramoz | mm |
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10:43.15 | ramoz | lets hope curseclient is alot better than its current version |
10:43.22 | cncfanatics | I never used it heh |
10:43.24 | ramoz | (the new one) |
10:43.28 | cncfanatics | I don't know how the curse client works, but it'll probably be coded to use as less bandwidth as possible |
10:44.02 | Elkano | hmm... p2p addon updater? ;) |
10:44.13 | cncfanatics | thats a possibility |
10:44.17 | nevcairiel | nah |
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10:45.39 | Pneumatus | Funkeh`: http://www.wowwiki.com/Class_colors |
10:45.47 | Pneumatus | FrameXML/Fonts.xml |
10:45.51 | Funkeh` | got it now but thanks :) |
10:46.29 | Camci | curse is so overrated, but thats just my opinion :p |
10:47.12 | Pneumatus | only reason ive ever put an addon anywhere but the wowace svn is to try and get beta keys :> |
10:48.01 | nevcairiel | And why exactly did you put it on wowace ? |
10:48.34 | cncfanatics | Pneumatus: same |
10:48.39 | Camci | he said he didnt :P |
10:48.55 | Elkano | well, when I started coding there was no wowace, yet ^^ |
10:48.57 | Pneumatus | well i did have an addon page on the wowace wiki also |
10:49.08 | nevcairiel | wowace is no release site |
10:49.12 | nevcairiel | and we're finally fixing that |
10:49.25 | Elkano | yeah, about time ^^ |
10:49.53 | Pneumatus | but honestly, I never thought it would get any attention... im surprised there was even any interest in it |
10:50.43 | Pneumatus | ... which is coincidentally why i'm ressurecting it :) |
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10:51.29 | kalahassi | how can i display the russian letters on my european wow? the realmlist lists them as ? |
10:52.07 | cncfanatics | kalahassi: I think its a WoW issue |
10:52.17 | cncfanatics | I have russian fonts installed and can display russian stuff fine on a web browser |
10:52.18 | cncfanatics | but not in WoW |
10:52.29 | Stanzilla | did you change your wow font? |
10:52.34 | kalahassi | no |
10:52.37 | Pneumatus | appears the same here... guess you must need the russian version of WoW |
10:53.10 | Pneumatus | ooh, the dead battlegroups are starting to come back online |
10:54.47 | cncfanatics | they are ? |
10:54.49 | cncfanatics | yay |
10:55.55 | kalahassi | no russian languagepack? damned |
10:57.28 | cncfanatics | Pneumatus: mind telling me when maggy gets online ? :p |
10:57.46 | Pneumatus | im logged in to my realm now, sorry :P |
10:58.19 | Pneumatus | and us Turalonites would never help any Magtherinubs after our forum feud ;) |
11:00.35 | cncfanatics | lol |
11:00.35 | cncfanatics | wth happened ? :p |
11:01.21 | Pneumatus | there was a lot of cross-realm-forum flaming over which is the better realm :) |
11:01.42 | Pneumatus | probably fueled by people jealous about you having Nihilum id imagine |
11:03.17 | cncfanatics | ooh "we have nihilum" |
11:03.19 | cncfanatics | what a bullshit ? :p |
11:03.34 | cncfanatics | most people with a brain don't rly give a fuck |
11:03.39 | cncfanatics | its mainly those anoying fanbois |
11:04.02 | Matrix110 | most people want to be proud of everything the participate on |
11:04.09 | Matrix110 | and comparing yourself with others is the best way to get your satisfaction |
11:04.10 | Pneumatus | pretty much, but I definatly recall a few monster threadnaughts on our realm forums :) |
11:04.21 | cncfanatics | Matrix110: comparing yourself with others yes |
11:04.26 | Pneumatus | = achievements in wotlk |
11:04.28 | cncfanatics | not comparing other guilds on your realm with others |
11:04.42 | Matrix110 | cncfanatics its "your" realm so you can do that :P |
11:05.09 | Pneumatus | well, i guess not many people know much about other realms, but Magtheridon will always be known to the masses as the home of Nihilum |
11:05.43 | CIA-45 | 03ananhaid * r78834 10XLootMaster/ (localization.zhCN.lua localization.zhTW.lua): |
11:05.43 | CIA-45 | XLootMaster: |
11:05.43 | CIA-45 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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11:18.17 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78835 10GatherMate/ (Artwork/Icon.tga Config.lua GatherMate.toc): GatherMate: added libdatabroker support (a launcher has been requested alot so its been added asa LDB option now), updated teh toc for 2.4.3 and added an icon, credits to OttaDeFe for the icon. |
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11:20.35 | Vulcanus | this is just fab, they decided not to accept my CC anymore lol |
11:20.46 | Vulcanus | its not expired and I has money in account |
11:21.00 | MoonWork | weird |
11:21.03 | MoonWork | i have that for us account |
11:21.11 | MoonWork | i can pay for the account, but could not buy the expansion with it. |
11:21.23 | cncfanatics | Vulcanus: their cc system is down |
11:21.36 | cncfanatics | has nothing to do with ur card |
11:21.42 | cncfanatics | see http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4965966934&sid=1 |
11:21.52 | nevcairiel | half EU is down |
11:21.56 | cncfanatics | yep |
11:22.00 | cncfanatics | I'm wondering whats happening tbh :s |
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11:25.09 | Vulcanus | now I have to go fucking downtown too XD |
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11:27.48 | Kalroth | nev broke EU servers |
11:28.17 | Kaaosa- | Who plays on those anyway? >_> |
11:28.24 | cncfanatics | most trolls do |
11:28.27 | cncfanatics | most noticably me & Fisker- |
11:28.35 | Cheads | archievements for "Largest critical hit" "Largest hit" etc. .. maybe no need for topscore etc. =9 |
11:28.39 | Kalroth | Real people plays on EU servers |
11:28.44 | Kaaosa- | I'm real people :[ |
11:28.50 | cncfanatics | Cheads: highest heal too , |
11:28.52 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r78836 10AtlasLoot/Core/ButtonRegistry.lua: |
11:28.52 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
11:28.52 | CIA-45 | - Corrected a typo |
11:29.00 | Cheads | yeah, stuff like that |
11:29.03 | Kalroth | Kaaosa-: Are you an american? |
11:29.24 | Kaaosa- | I'm -the- american |
11:29.32 | Kalroth | That may be, but you're not a real person yet |
11:29.36 | Kaaosa- | :[ |
11:30.02 | cncfanatics | Kaaosa-: are you like 25% of americans ? |
11:30.16 | Kaaosa- | Which 25%? |
11:30.23 | cncfanatics | the way too fat 25% |
11:30.28 | Kaaosa- | Oh, no :P |
11:31.16 | Vulcanus | what do you mean way too fat 25%? everybody knows it's the other way around |
11:31.16 | Vulcanus | XD |
11:31.41 | cncfanatics | haha |
11:32.05 | Cheads | linking the recipe book in wotlk.. many interesting things to come =) |
11:32.12 | cncfanatics | agree |
11:32.16 | cncfanatics | its a damn cool change |
11:32.25 | cncfanatics | it will partialy prevent scamming :) |
11:32.29 | Kaaosa- | I just want to know if there will be new rocket boots :o |
11:32.36 | cncfanatics | though you can still link other people's recipe book to scam :s |
11:32.49 | cncfanatics | I hope blizz adds a change you can only link your own recipe book |
11:33.10 | cncfanatics | (though that might be hard, or even impossible to implement) |
11:33.20 | Vulcanus | that would sorta break mods that lets you link mats for x |
11:34.05 | Matrix110 | Well linking recipes doesnt matter you should be able to craft things without having to give somebody else the mats :P |
11:34.14 | Vulcanus | true |
11:34.20 | Vulcanus | but they seem to be reluctant to do that |
11:34.25 | cncfanatics | I do wonder why |
11:34.34 | cncfanatics | make the to not be traded box 6 slots |
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11:34.38 | Vulcanus | imo it should be so that on the tooltip it should say "Vulcanus cannot craft this item!" if I tried to link JC shit on my mage (Tai/Ench) |
11:34.41 | cncfanatics | and let stuff be crafted out of those mats |
11:34.57 | Matrix110 | Vulcanus that would be nice |
11:34.58 | cncfanatics | Vulcanus: it can't work like that |
11:35.04 | Vulcanus | wai cnc |
11:35.13 | cncfanatics | atm, all information is sent in the spellink |
11:35.27 | cncfanatics | it works with bit flags and the client parses that to see whats in it |
11:35.42 | Vulcanus | so it would be nothing more than just altering the string to take out that line? |
11:35.47 | cncfanatics | there's atm no way to control if the person that linked it can actualy craft it or just crafted the link / used someone else's |
11:36.13 | Stanzilla | cncfanatics: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14299.msg231079#msg231079 |
11:36.17 | Matrix110 | wouldnt a simple hash check solve that? |
11:36.39 | Vulcanus | then they could encorporate charid in the string sent to the client, which would make the client query the server for the recipes from that charid |
11:37.15 | Vulcanus | would take a huge performance hit, but then again I hear MSSQL 2008 is gonna be even better than 2005 which I bet is what they're running |
11:38.06 | cncfanatics | Stanzilla: replying |
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11:40.08 | Matrix110 | oh that CC issue is a general issue |
11:40.09 | cncfanatics | Stanzilla: thanks for telling me that |
11:40.14 | Matrix110 | we couldnt go muru thanks to that... |
11:40.20 | Stanzilla | np |
11:40.37 | cncfanatics | Vulcanus: they could incorporate the charid in the link |
11:40.40 | Orionshock | o.O wow, i've cracked 4k downloads on guild craft... didn't think i'd do that |
11:40.49 | Matrix110 | And I already cursed our tank for being stupid |
11:40.54 | cncfanatics | and just add to the craft window: <playername>'s crafts |
11:41.06 | Vulcanus | aye |
11:41.09 | Kalroth | Matrix110: What CC on M'uru? Just kill stuff! |
11:41.21 | Matrix110 | no |
11:41.24 | Matrix110 | CreditCard |
11:41.25 | Matrix110 | :P |
11:41.30 | Kalroth | Oh :P |
11:42.00 | cncfanatics | ~seen MoonWitch |
11:42.03 | purl | moonwitch <n=Kay@83.101.2.192> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 13h 41m 11s ago, saying: 'thanks VonhintenHOME` '. |
11:42.13 | cncfanatics | :o, he hasn't been on for a damn long time |
11:42.23 | Kalroth | You scared him/her away, cnc |
11:42.41 | cncfanatics | he's asking what realm I'm on and might reroll on mine and join my guild, so, nop :p |
11:43.36 | Industrial | she, i'd say :p |
11:44.01 | cncfanatics | doesn't really matter in the internet tbh |
11:44.15 | Stanzilla | the mobs are bugged sometimes |
11:44.22 | Kalroth | Personally I define everyone online as "it", but it offends some people |
11:44.26 | Stanzilla | they become unresponsive can only be hit by auto attacks |
11:44.32 | Kalroth | Stanzilla: Their aggro list isn't reset. |
11:44.43 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: I'd do the same, but as if offends people I use he :p |
11:44.57 | cncfanatics | if someone insists being female I'll use she if I remember it |
11:45.23 | Orionshock | ah the hell, wowmatrix picked up my addon ... grrr |
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11:45.45 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: does wowmatrix handpick addons or just pull everything from wowace ? |
11:45.55 | Orionshock | both i think |
11:45.59 | Kalroth | If JohnDoe runs by Mob334 and doesn't fight it, then Mob334 runs back to its spot and waits there. Once JackDoe comes and hits Mob334, it tries to reach JohnDoe, only to fail at it, reset and then get hate for JackDoe. |
11:47.20 | Kalroth | I've tested it myself, I ran through a pack of 5-6 mobs and away from them. Once they reset I had another character try to pull the mobs and they all ran for the first character. |
11:47.49 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: server ? |
11:48.10 | Kalroth | Server? Not that I think it matters much, but Stormrage-EU |
11:48.54 | Kalroth | They're deploying a bunch of hotfixes today, I'm guessing it's to fix the NPCs. |
11:49.09 | cncfanatics | its only 3 battlegroups being affected afaik |
11:49.12 | cncfanatics | and it was fine yesterday |
11:49.26 | Kalroth | I experienced it a lot of times yesterday, so no :) |
11:49.28 | Orionshock | can't wait for the 1.0-2.0-3.0 bridge patch... oh that will be a fun week |
11:49.32 | Kalroth | I even ganked some poor sod because of it |
11:49.50 | Kaaosa- | Does Notepad++ support lua syntax highlighting natively or do I need to get a plugin for it? |
11:49.59 | Orionshock | Kaaosa-: it does |
11:49.59 | Stanzilla | natively |
11:49.59 | cncfanatics | natively |
11:50.00 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78837 10GatherMate/GatherMate.toc: GatherMate: toc fix |
11:50.01 | Kalroth | Some protadin that aggroed like 10+ mobs, bubbled and made it away. I then poked one mob and they all ran and ganked him ;) |
11:50.05 | Kaaosa- | Fantastic |
11:50.16 | cncfanatics | only outside ? |
11:50.22 | Kalroth | Emergency maintenance, 21/07 |
11:50.22 | Kalroth | The realms in the following Battlegroups are undergoing an emergency maintenance: Conviction, Cyclone, Nightfall and Rampage. |
11:50.26 | Kalroth | I play on Cyclone |
11:50.28 | cncfanatics | I did like 7 instances yesterday and never had issues |
11:50.38 | cncfanatics | I play on the maggy realm, dunno what battlegroup it is :p |
11:50.43 | Kalroth | It only works outside, duh :) |
11:50.58 | Kalroth | In instances the mobs doesn't reset aggro, they keep following you |
11:51.27 | Kalroth | You're on Conviction |
11:52.57 | cncfanatics | k, tnx |
11:53.09 | cncfanatics | the issue is probably isolated to those 4 battlegroups |
11:53.12 | cncfanatics | I do wonder what caused it |
11:53.17 | cncfanatics | doesn't sound like a hardware issue |
11:53.33 | Kalroth | I'm guessing it was a wrong patch issued to the servers or something similar :) |
11:53.43 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78838 10GatherMate/Config.lua: GatherMate: updated the o to O for linux and fixed global launcher to local variable. Thanks vharr and ammo |
11:54.04 | cncfanatics | kagaro: the o to O shouldn't be an issue on linux as wine does that conversion iirc |
11:54.10 | cncfanatics | but still good to use the correct case :p |
11:54.23 | Orionshock | anyone been able to sucsessfuly remove their addon from wowmatrix? |
11:54.26 | kagaro | oddly enough on my Mac its Addons as the folder name |
11:54.40 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: how would you go doing that ? |
11:54.59 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: I have |
11:55.01 | Orionshock | personaly i just clicked "Contact Us" at the bottom |
11:55.05 | [Ammo] | Orionshock: I did that too |
11:55.13 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78839 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: fixed global var to local for launcher and AddOns case for linux just in case. |
11:55.20 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna do the same then heh |
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11:55.23 | [Ammo] | and told them this was the second time I asked, next time would be through my law firm |
11:55.35 | [Ammo] | was gone within 2 hours |
11:55.43 | Orionshock | is there a good generic license to release addons under? |
11:56.45 | cncfanatics | whats bad about wowmatrix btw ? |
11:56.50 | cncfanatics | seems like yet another updater to me |
11:57.02 | [Ammo] | they steal addons |
11:57.04 | [Ammo] | without permission |
11:57.12 | Stanzilla | and even change them sometimes |
11:57.24 | cncfanatics | okay, I'm getting mine of that |
11:57.49 | [Ammo] | they rip all of files.wowace.com |
11:57.53 | [Ammo] | without permission |
11:58.09 | cncfanatics | couldn't their crawler be blocked ? |
11:58.11 | [Ammo] | lucky for new wowace without WAU and files.wowace.com |
11:58.13 | cncfanatics | it most probably has a static IP |
11:58.17 | [Ammo] | byebye wowmatrix |
11:59.25 | Antiarc | It was really funny to read the wow insider story on WAU going away |
11:59.28 | Kalroth | you mean byebye wowace |
11:59.30 | Antiarc | Everyone was all "lawls, just use wowmatrix" |
11:59.35 | Antiarc | And I was "haha, fools" |
11:59.45 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: can you link ? |
11:59.53 | Zariel | does something need to be done to make shadowOffsets update? |
12:00.00 | Antiarc | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/19/wowaceupdater-goes-the-way-of-the-dodo/ |
12:01.35 | Kalroth | man, they link to wowace forums with the sessionid |
12:01.49 | nevcairiel | lol |
12:02.16 | cncfanatics | why are they assuming that only WAU will stop working ? |
12:02.24 | Kaaosa- | Some people don't know how the internet works |
12:02.24 | cncfanatics | seriously, if WAU stops working all clones do too, its only natural |
12:03.17 | profalbert | does this curse-thingy only work on windows? |
12:03.44 | Kalroth | I'm guessing the client only works on windows, yes |
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12:04.53 | Zariel | Eh, im changing the shadowOffset X/Y, the values are changing but the display isnt updating the new offset until i change the color :S |
12:07.47 | Zariel | hm wowmatrix seems to be pulling not just from wowace |
12:08.10 | cncfanatics | Zariel: it pulls from pretty much everywhere |
12:11.33 | Vulcanus | I guess thats one good thing about the files.wowace.com -> CF style change, those kinda places will get fucked over |
12:11.49 | Kalroth | hows that? |
12:12.09 | Kalroth | you don't think it's possible to automate downloads from other sites? :) |
12:12.30 | cncfanatics | it will still be very possible to automate then from wowace prolly |
12:12.40 | Funkeh` | kagaro, you want type = "launcher" |
12:12.42 | Lonny | Yeah it's actually pretty easy :) |
12:12.44 | Funkeh` | not lanuter = true |
12:12.49 | Funkeh` | launcher* |
12:13.03 | EvilJohn- | so files.wowace.com is going away, not just WAU |
12:13.20 | cncfanatics | EvilJohn-: its more, files.wowace.com is going away, thus WAU and other updaters won't work |
12:13.31 | EvilJohn- | yeah |
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12:13.46 | Vulcanus | they might use files.wowace.com as the domain, but the backend software will be CF and not dis |
12:13.46 | kagaro | Funkeh`: you should have tekkub update his wiki page then |
12:13.54 | Kalroth | Sure, but there already exist automatic updaters for Curse and other sites |
12:13.55 | EvilJohn- | what about read access to the svn repository? |
12:13.55 | Funkeh` | he's a slaaack |
12:14.09 | cncfanatics | EvilJohn-: no idea, you're better off asking Kaelten prolly |
12:14.13 | kagaro | I liteally just cut and paste and changed name + icon |
12:14.19 | [Ammo] | no |
12:14.19 | [Ammo] | files.wowace.com and it's functionality will be gone |
12:14.19 | [Ammo] | releases will be done on release sites |
12:14.33 | [Ammo] | EvilJohn-: readaccess will be on a per project basis |
12:14.37 | [Ammo] | so I can close of my addons |
12:14.57 | Kalroth | Updaters like JWoWupdater already supports Curse and WOWI |
12:15.02 | Vulcanus | but if you do, ackis can't luac -p your addons ammo! |
12:15.03 | EvilJohn- | do you want to close the release, or close the view into development? |
12:15.13 | [Ammo] | releases will be done on release sites |
12:15.16 | [Ammo] | get them from there |
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12:15.27 | [Ammo] | finally wowace will go back to a developer platform |
12:15.28 | cncfanatics | will be better imo |
12:15.32 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78840 10GatherMate/Config.lua: GatherMate: changed launcher = true to type = "launcher" |
12:15.33 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78841 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: changed launcher = true to type = "launcher" |
12:15.41 | cncfanatics | also, I think "wowace" ain't an optimal name |
12:15.45 | cncfanatics | its not only for ace addons rly |
12:15.53 | Cheads | [Ammo] hopefully people will release their nice addons elsewhere then |
12:15.54 | [Ammo] | it's what it is and has been for years |
12:16.00 | [Ammo] | I already have my addons up on wowinterface |
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12:16.07 | Vulcanus | the way I understand it is that on the CF software there will be a button to push it to curse, so the curse updater will work |
12:16.25 | Cheads | sure, but many of the addons on wowace aren't anywhere else |
12:16.40 | ckknight | Antiarc: hey, Omen is mentioned in penny arcade: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/7/21/vacillation-street/ |
12:16.41 | [Ammo] | you can generate release versions which will be available as .zip |
12:16.42 | EvilJohn- | i understand the need |
12:16.51 | [Ammo] | you can either push to curse or to another site |
12:16.56 | Antiarc | hehe, I saw that |
12:16.59 | EvilJohn- | bit for someone who helps guild people keep addons going, it does get harder, now |
12:16.59 | Cheads | nice |
12:16.59 | Kalroth | ckknight: He knows, he's already asked Blizzard for a "Win Omen" achievement. :p |
12:16.59 | Fisker- | ... |
12:17.00 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5061876314&sid=1 |
12:17.06 | ckknight | lol. |
12:17.09 | Fisker- | "Will they be released at the same time? Or will there be a delay on the Mac version like normal?" |
12:17.11 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
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12:17.27 | Fisker- | because Blizzard have a track record of never ever releasing both the mac and pc client at the same time with all of their games |
12:17.56 | CIA-45 | 03orionshock * r78842 10GuildCraft/ (GuildCraft.toc core.lua): GuildCraft: license update to MIT from WTFPL |
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12:19.07 | Vulcanus | lmfao |
12:19.09 | CIA-45 | 03maqjav * r78843 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.es.lua: |
12:19.09 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
12:19.09 | CIA-45 | - esES update |
12:19.10 | Vulcanus | "wtfpl" |
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12:21.44 | ckknight | hehe |
12:22.26 | ckknight | WTFPL is pretty funny, really. It's the closest thing to Public Domain while still being a license. Granted, I prefer MIT |
12:22.32 | Orionshock | Vulcanus: it's actualy a real one |
12:22.42 | Chompers | what's the difference? |
12:23.06 | Vulcanus | XD |
12:23.49 | Orionshock | tbh i want one that says "I have the right to manage anything released under this exact name" ... meh well |
12:24.05 | Pneumatus | write your own then :) |
12:24.13 | Orionshock | tempted |
12:24.24 | Vulcanus | DIS MY ADDON. U GO WAI. |
12:24.28 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: I just took a license that said u can do what the fuck u want with my stuff as long as you mail me before doing so |
12:25.03 | Orionshock | humm... |
12:26.00 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78844 10BankItems/ (BankItems.toc localization-ruRU.lua): BankItems: added ruRU translation |
12:26.10 | Pneumatus | one of the creative commons licenses is basically that isnt it? |
12:26.24 | nevcairiel | creative commons shouldnt be used for code |
12:28.29 | Orionshock | stingerSoft??? u in IRC? |
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12:29.15 | durcyn | man, i can't wait for a russkiy to touch somethin of mine so i can revert it with a 'yob tvoyu maht' message =( |
12:29.35 | Orionshock | ^.^ oy... got a guildie that wants the raid to get oRA3 ... |
12:29.44 | [Ammo] | haha |
12:29.51 | [Ammo] | all it does is show pretty readychecks! |
12:29.59 | [Ammo] | (for leader and assistant) |
12:30.42 | Orionshock | i told him that if he's smart enought to know how to get ora3 then he should be smart enough to know it's a bit useless... |
12:30.54 | [Ammo] | not useless at all |
12:31.00 | [Ammo] | does one job pretty good |
12:31.08 | Orionshock | lol |
12:31.10 | Stanzilla | wtb maintanks in ora3 :P |
12:31.31 | EvilJohn- | it also gives you easy keybinds to target/assisting those MT |
12:31.41 | EvilJohn- | and that's not as a simple problem as it seems :( |
12:32.51 | Pneumatus | only thing i use ora2 for these days is making the res syncing with SmartRes work :< |
12:33.48 | Kalroth | I used it for the ready check window, mt windows, cooldown list and durability check |
12:33.56 | EvilJohn- | <PROTECTED> |
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12:34.05 | Kalroth | naw, I don't check for items |
12:34.13 | EvilJohn- | "does everyone have their healthstone?" |
12:34.15 | Kalroth | I use bigbrother to check for flasks |
12:34.44 | Pneumatus | radur isnt that neccesary these days either with pretty much all instances having someone to repair at either inside or just outside |
12:35.05 | Kalroth | We still use bots a lot in Sunwell |
12:35.06 | cncfanatics | still nice |
12:35.07 | Pneumatus | not like the days of MC/BWL/Naxx when you had to travel half a continent to get a repair, or drop a bot |
12:35.14 | profalbert | we have more CT-RA-users than oRA-users in our raid |
12:35.19 | cncfanatics | people tend to forget to repair and are afraid to mention at and keep running around in red gear :s |
12:35.29 | Kalroth | It's tons faster to drop a bot than to tell people to go outside and repair |
12:36.08 | Pneumatus | well, bots are nowhere near as expensive as they used to be as well, at least comparibly |
12:36.50 | Pneumatus | i still detest paying un-reputation-modified repair prices :) |
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12:37.04 | Kalroth | Don't die then. :) |
12:37.13 | EvilJohn- | i can't believe people are still using CT mod stuff |
12:37.21 | nevcairiel | I use CT_MailMod |
12:37.23 | nevcairiel | its fine |
12:37.36 | Pneumatus | CT_MailMod was the only ctmod i ever used really |
12:37.41 | dieck | CT_RaidTracker. Though the modified version from mldkp |
12:37.41 | Pneumatus | but i replaced that with postal |
12:38.17 | nevcairiel | oh yeah and CT_RT too |
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12:40.30 | Pneumatus | i wish SmartRes wasnt dependant on ora2/ctra for res syncing tho :< |
12:42.02 | dieck | hm, is it? I never noticed that. Though I have oRA2 running, so it wouldn't bother me :) |
12:42.12 | Pneumatus | yeh was looking at the code the other day |
12:42.51 | Pneumatus | if not (oRA and oRA.HasModule(oRA, "ParticipantPassive") and oRA.IsModuleActive(oRA, "ParticipantPassive") or CT_RA_Stats) then |
12:42.57 | Saroz | give beta key :( |
12:43.49 | Fisker- | indeed |
12:43.59 | Fisker- | i'm dying ;_; |
12:44.45 | Pneumatus | i guess EU keys still havnt been sent :< |
12:45.08 | Fisker- | they have |
12:45.17 | Pneumatus | i guess blizz hate me then |
12:45.19 | profalbert | Fisker-: when? |
12:45.35 | Fisker- | friday |
12:46.00 | cncfanatics | lotery keys have been sent |
12:46.06 | profalbert | the damn character-copy doesn't work yet... |
12:46.09 | cncfanatics | chance of getting one of those is slightly low |
12:46.29 | Pneumatus | i was hoping that as i was an awesome BC beta tester they would send me one :< |
12:46.58 | Pkekyo| | UPS SUCKS :< |
12:47.22 | Fisker- | Pneumatus no |
12:47.29 | Fisker- | Blizzard doesn't care about EU people |
12:48.10 | Saroz | :> |
12:48.17 | Pneumatus | i must have reported tens, if not hundreds of bugs in BC beta |
12:48.22 | Fisker- | Not to mention they'd have to actually read our posts and bug reports to decide whether or not you are an awesome BC beta tester |
12:48.32 | Saroz | Pneumatus, those bugs never reach the right people |
12:48.33 | Fisker- | Then your work was in vain Pneumatus :( |
12:48.57 | Saroz | developers dont check EU stuff |
12:49.00 | phyber | Fisker-: if you walk out of america, you fall off the world. there is nothing else! |
12:49.01 | Pneumatus | well, thats true as a lot of them werent fixed until several patches after live |
12:49.26 | Fisker- | indeed phyber |
12:49.35 | Pneumatus | you just had to look at Laj in botanica, that wasnt fixed till like 2.0.3 |
12:49.57 | Fisker- | Pneumatus there was a thread on the general discussion forum named "FUCK YOU BLIZZARD" for about a month |
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12:50.11 | Fisker- | They removed it at the end of the beta when they figured out US was doing an end of beta event |
12:50.17 | Fisker- | then they wanted to do something as well |
12:51.05 | Fisker- | Anyways even if they did read our posts etc, they still didn't offer F&F status like they did with the good beta testers in the US |
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12:53.33 | cncfanatics | EU beta is screwed up |
12:53.36 | Lyn_ | :o |
12:53.41 | cncfanatics | they're just doing it to not get QQ from EU players I think :p |
12:53.54 | Zyndrome | of course it is, cause I don't have a beta key yet :S |
12:54.05 | Zyndrome | makes perfect sense why it's messy |
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12:54.44 | Saroz | I got one for TBC, was helpful |
12:55.02 | Saroz | fucking state headers |
12:55.04 | Pneumatus | i had to beg my BC beta key from a friend |
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12:55.19 | Zyndrome | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9465/wowscrnshot072108135819dm8.jpg :/ |
12:55.28 | Saroz | hope they fix state headers so there is ONE and not one for party and one for raid |
12:55.29 | Saroz | fucking bull |
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12:56.00 | nevcairiel | Saroz: they did, kinda. You just have to do it yourself now :) |
12:56.09 | Saroz | explain |
12:56.19 | Saroz | and one for pets |
12:56.21 | Saroz | 3 headers, give one |
12:56.23 | Saroz | fucking pain |
12:56.27 | Pkekyo| | Zyndrome: wth? |
12:56.31 | cncfanatics | Saroz: they'll let us use lua code |
12:56.40 | cncfanatics | from what I've seen in the code, they're gonna let us run secure code from a sandbox |
12:56.48 | Zyndrome | better abandon my paladin for DK |
12:56.51 | Saroz | uhhhhh |
12:56.57 | cncfanatics | where we can't access stuff they don't want us to and thus not making decisions based on factors they don't want us to |
12:57.14 | Saroz | naise, give beta key |
12:57.28 | nevcairiel | the old secure group header is still around though |
12:57.33 | Saroz | hate those |
12:57.35 | Saroz | hate hate hate |
12:57.35 | nevcairiel | not sure if its supposed to be replaced as well |
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13:05.38 | Kaaosa- | Is there an event fired when a spell cooldown finishes? |
13:05.38 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/92028 --- what wowmatrix says when i ask them to remove it from their listing |
13:06.51 | Orionshock | " If you wish to remove GuildCraft from the WowAce database, and therefore from all AddOn updaters (such as WowMatrix) that connect to their system, you may do so at any time via your WowAce account." |
13:06.54 | Orionshock | the hell??? |
13:07.03 | EvilJohn- | nice |
13:09.06 | Dark_Elf | maybe ya need to insert this is a letter from attorney so and so representing self, and tell them they have 3 days to remove guildcraft from wowmatrix |
13:09.08 | Kalroth | Maybe if it wasn't taken out of context :p |
13:09.26 | Kalroth | "The reason GuildCraft is listed in WowMatrix is because the AddOn is in the WowAce database." |
13:10.03 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4965969928&postId=50610908981&sid=1#85 <-ooh 1-0 |
13:10.52 | CIA-45 | 03gagorian * r78845 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
13:10.52 | CIA-45 | DrDamage: |
13:10.52 | CIA-45 | - Poppins support. |
13:10.58 | Dark_Elf | in other words wowmatrix is a file leech, but just like kazaa and other things they should have to have filters |
13:11.33 | Kalroth | And I really don't see why people are being so anal about the distribution of their addons. I don't see any problems with WowMatrix, at worst it's an indexer for Wowace's public distribution system and nothing else. |
13:11.37 | durcyn | sounds more like an aggregator to me |
13:11.41 | Orionshock | i think my 2nd contact represents more why i want it removed. |
13:12.36 | [Ammo] | I told them I did not want wowmatrix spreading my addons |
13:12.39 | [Ammo] | they listened to that |
13:12.43 | Orionshock | Kalroth: basicly updaters like WoWMatrix, unlike WUU, leach bandwidth from wowace and other sites due to loss in ad revenue. |
13:12.55 | Kalroth | Orionshock: Sure, that's Wowaces problem, not yours. |
13:13.21 | Orionshock | right but it's being done with my stuff and im indirectly responsible... |
13:13.57 | Dark_Elf | thats why wowace should go after wowmatrix, cause its leeching its bandwidth, i wonder if wowmatrix contributed to wowui server blowout as well? |
13:14.14 | Orionshock | Dark_Elf: not worth it |
13:14.15 | Kalroth | Huh? No you're not, you're hosting your addon on Wowace, how other people abuse their services really isn't related to your addon. |
13:14.35 | Orionshock | Kalroth: it's a matter of perspective |
13:14.39 | Kalroth | And WowMatrix hardly is leeching anything, they're directing people to their downloads. |
13:14.48 | Pneumatus | wowmatrix is leeching bandwidth and preventing the site owners making their own ad revenue etc, im surprised the likes of curse havnt taken them to court |
13:15.48 | nevcairiel | There are alot of 3rd party updaters |
13:15.54 | Zariel | Occasionally we receive similar requests from |
13:15.54 | Zariel | other AddOn authors who for some reason think |
13:15.54 | Zariel | that their AddOns are being hosted on our servers |
13:15.54 | Zariel | (and therefore may be outdated, not within their |
13:15.56 | Zariel | control, etc). This is simply not the case. |
13:15.59 | Zariel | what |
13:16.40 | Kalroth | If Wowace didn't want other sources to download from their site, then they shouldn't have made files.wowace.com. Which is also what they're undoing now, I believe. |
13:16.42 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: true, but what ones have ads in them? WAU and the one for ui.worldofwar.net, and those 2 are site exclusive |
13:17.00 | FtH|Daemona | quick question to the hunters out there, do you still die after 6 min in feign death? |
13:17.08 | nevcairiel | nah they stand up now |
13:17.11 | Pneumatus | nope |
13:17.12 | FtH|Daemona | kk |
13:17.13 | [Ammo] | Kalroth: I told wowmatrix to remove all references to my addons from their site |
13:17.13 | Pneumatus | ^^ |
13:17.16 | [Ammo] | they complied |
13:17.39 | [Ammo] | probably still available on their downloader nowadays |
13:17.39 | Orionshock | [Ammo]: you also threaten legal action .... |
13:17.42 | [Ammo] | yeah |
13:17.43 | Kalroth | [Ammo]: Sure, probably because they couldn't be bothered with the lawsuit, which is too bad. |
13:18.09 | Pneumatus | plus, wowmatrix has its own ads in the client, so they are linking straight to content not owned by them and letting you see their ads for the privalage |
13:18.11 | [Ammo] | but with the new wowace wowmatrix is byebye |
13:18.16 | Kalroth | huh |
13:18.23 | Fisker- | omg easy mode nevcairiel |
13:18.25 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78846 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Cleanups |
13:18.32 | [Ammo] | no more files page to leech 90%+ of their addons from |
13:18.46 | Fisker- | err yes? |
13:18.50 | Fisker- | Just leech them from curse? |
13:18.51 | Kalroth | So they'll just leech from curseforge or whatever |
13:18.58 | Dark_Elf | i notice alot of sites requireing accounts to do downloads i wonder if wowace will require that in future, that would help prevent bots from hogging bandwidth |
13:19.00 | [Ammo] | the fact that wowmatrix makes money of wowace's bandwith is the issue here |
13:19.00 | nevcairiel | you cant leech from CF |
13:19.08 | Fisker- | why not? |
13:19.12 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
13:19.17 | Pneumatus | exactly [Ammo] |
13:19.17 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
13:19.32 | [Ammo] | well they'd have to crawl the site the whole time |
13:19.37 | [Ammo] | no easy 'latest release' link |
13:19.39 | nevcairiel | CF randomizes the download links to make crawling very hard |
13:19.40 | Kalroth | As long as there's public downloads, you can leech |
13:19.54 | nevcairiel | they could also require a referer link |
13:20.03 | nevcairiel | (of course those can be faked) |
13:20.03 | Kalroth | [Ammo]: Or just scan the "latest updates" page every minute and store the results on a local server. |
13:20.08 | Pneumatus | do we have any SVN admins around atm? :) |
13:20.22 | [Ammo] | Kalroth: there are ways around it |
13:20.35 | [Ammo] | but now they don't get an xml to parse with download links |
13:20.45 | nevcairiel | there is never a real way to stop downloading |
13:20.46 | EvilJohn- | it's just going to be harder on them |
13:20.48 | [Ammo] | wowmatrix can die in a very large fire |
13:20.50 | EvilJohn- | but it won't stop them |
13:20.50 | nevcairiel | but CF is really hard to get files |
13:21.16 | nevcairiel | you like have to parse at least 2 html pages per project to get one file ref |
13:22.01 | Orionshock | just force a 3sec timeout per page? & make it more of a pain than is useful |
13:22.18 | Fisker- | i can only see that will make your bandwitdh issues worse |
13:22.18 | EvilJohn- | doesn't look that hard to me |
13:22.29 | Fisker- | because now you have to load even more data than you had before |
13:22.30 | Pneumatus | does CF support SVN externals for its packager? |
13:22.31 | Kalroth | It's a catch-22, if you make it hard for clients to index, then you make it harder for users too. But if you make it harder for users, then the users find another site. |
13:22.45 | Orionshock | Pneumatus: yes |
13:22.57 | Orionshock | but in more of a global sense than per svn directory |
13:22.58 | EvilJohn- | unless you only allow downloads through the updater tool |
13:23.10 | Kalroth | EvilJohn-: The updater tool can be reversed. |
13:23.10 | EvilJohn- | which is unfun |
13:23.23 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: users are not supposed to use CF really |
13:23.26 | nevcairiel | they should use Curse |
13:23.28 | EvilJohn- | yes, but now we're up in order of magnitudes |
13:23.28 | FtH|Daemona | the question is, do you make the client crawl CF and get the links for the end-user, or would wowmatrix do it serverside and supply an index every minute or so... |
13:23.28 | Kalroth | Public updated in any fun is just that, public. |
13:23.31 | EvilJohn- | in dfficulty |
13:23.32 | Kalroth | updates* |
13:23.34 | Orionshock | tbh, if it got really fked, i'd just use WAU with CLI-SVN program, works like a charm. |
13:23.35 | FtH|Daemona | THAT would be easy to block ;) |
13:24.02 | Kalroth | EvilJohn-: Not really, just setup a http proxy and see the calls going through it. Emulate the calls and you got your own updater. |
13:24.12 | Orionshock | b/c everything on CF has a repo in the background |
13:24.32 | EvilJohn- | assuming the clients don't have a unique public generated tied to a user id |
13:24.33 | Pneumatus | each CF project is its own SVN repo right? |
13:24.44 | Orionshock | Pneumatus: SVN/Git/Mercuril |
13:24.49 | nevcairiel | Curse will probably have to offer some xml format or something, but CF will not. End-Users shouldnt really have to go to CF ever |
13:24.50 | Orionshock | one of the 3 |
13:24.51 | Pneumatus | right |
13:24.53 | EvilJohn- | if the attempt is to block 3rd party updaters from CF, then this something they'll have to do |
13:25.00 | Kalroth | FtH|Daemona: Yup, that's exactly what I suggested. It doesn't even have to be a single server doing it, it could be the updater client itself, so the scans are from different IPs every time. |
13:25.07 | EvilJohn- | nevcairiel: I simply do not believe that |
13:25.11 | EvilJohn- | i really really don't. |
13:25.29 | nevcairiel | believe what you want |
13:25.31 | EvilJohn- | uses will slamming CF so hard on major patch days, it's hard to describe |
13:25.31 | nevcairiel | :P |
13:25.38 | FtH|Daemona | yeah but do you expect the enduser to wait like ... 10 minutes for the client to crawl CF to check for updates AND have up-to-date leech links for them? |
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13:25.53 | FtH|Daemona | which might be outdated, cause the randomizer was faster than your refresh action? |
13:25.55 | [Ammo] | users should go to wowi or curse |
13:26.06 | EvilJohn- | but they won't |
13:26.08 | nevcairiel | Users will just run the clients which update from curse or wowi |
13:26.12 | EvilJohn- | here's what will happen |
13:26.18 | Pneumatus | users like to be able to hit one button for all their addons to update though |
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13:26.24 | Pneumatus | and any means to achieve that will be well recieved |
13:26.27 | durcyn | i want a pony. |
13:26.29 | EvilJohn- | user gets home at 5 on a patch 2.4.4 day, raid starts at 6 |
13:26.35 | Kalroth | FtH|Daemona: No, just get a core list of addons from the central server, while also grabbing the "lastest updates" page and send it to the server |
13:26.36 | Orionshock | EvilJohn-: a word of advice, try not to argue with nevcairiel or [Ammo] ... |
13:26.48 | EvilJohn- | beta mod fixes problm in Ora2, people will go for it |
13:26.48 | durcyn | p.s. users can go fornicate themselves with rusty pitchforks |
13:26.55 | Kalroth | what happens if nevcairiel and [Ammo] doesn't agree then? |
13:27.08 | [Ammo] | that gets settled elsewhere and a uniform answer on here :p |
13:27.09 | EvilJohn- | Orionshock: they seem reasonable to me |
13:27.15 | Orionshock | Kalroth: irc explodes...? |
13:27.16 | Pneumatus | and with the success of WAU its fairly clear to see people are happy to run bleeding edge all the time |
13:27.16 | FtH|Daemona | EvilJohn- the point is, if beta mod fixes an issue in a patch with that said addon |
13:27.23 | FtH|Daemona | the author SHOULD push it as release... |
13:27.33 | [Ammo] | how can they run bleeding edge if they can't access bleeding edge is the question |
13:27.45 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert * r78847 10Parrot/ (9 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
13:27.45 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
13:27.45 | CIA-45 | - merge with changes in the "new combatlog"-branch |
13:27.45 | CIA-45 | - weapon-enchants now working |
13:27.45 | CIA-45 | - can now distinguish between "player killing blow" and "NPC killing |
13:27.46 | nevcairiel | A very slimm minority of users will actually go to CurseForge, most of the users will simply be too lazy |
13:27.47 | CIA-45 | blow" |
13:27.47 | EvilJohn- | FtH|Daemona: and that's the aprt I don't believe |
13:27.49 | CIA-45 | - fix overheal-calculation |
13:27.53 | FtH|Daemona | bleeding edge is what the user perceives to be bleeding edge ;) |
13:28.03 | FtH|Daemona | which could be "stable" from the svn |
13:28.19 | FtH|Daemona | or beat |
13:28.19 | FtH|Daemona | beta |
13:28.21 | FtH|Daemona | or whatever the author considers safe for use |
13:28.22 | EvilJohn- | I understand the terms |
13:28.38 | nevcairiel | EvilJohn-: give it some time, only wowace brought the idea of constant alpha/beta updates in the game, with wowace gone, that will die again too |
13:28.40 | EvilJohn- | but I'm trying to describe human behavior in regards to a changing enviornment and fixed time schedule |
13:28.52 | EvilJohn- | nevcairiel: Toothpase/tube |
13:29.00 | [Ammo] | the new wowace will allow easy publish of stable releases |
13:29.00 | EvilJohn- | in any event |
13:29.03 | nevcairiel | what? |
13:29.06 | [Ammo] | which more authors will use |
13:29.09 | Orionshock | IMO the root problem is the actual testing, there is no clear and clean testing environment for any wow addons before they hit the general user base... so the user base becomes the testing ground... it's development but live |
13:29.11 | EvilJohn- | Ammo: I hope so |
13:29.19 | Pneumatus | the other thing as well, if a library is currently updated and is stable, should all authors then push out new packaged versions of their addons with the updated libs as new versions |
13:29.25 | EvilJohn- | Orionshock: I don't think that's been addressed. |
13:29.37 | EvilJohn- | and it can't in a free development env, really |
13:29.37 | FtH|Daemona | reminds me of Ackis ... "compiles with lua -c" |
13:29.38 | Pneumatus | and how does an author know if a library commit is stable, unstable, beta or otherwise |
13:29.38 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
13:29.40 | durcyn | Pneumatus: why? releases go with the versions they're tested with |
13:30.15 | EvilJohn- | my biggest problem with all of this though, is not the goals, I think they're lofty, worthy, and noble |
13:30.18 | FtH|Daemona | yeah, the problem i see with something like the Ace framework is the mass amount of bundled libs |
13:30.28 | Orionshock | EvilJohn-: if i had a testing ground that i knew for sure when it was done was not going to fk up out in the wild, i'd push releases more often; however i have to test constantly with what i perseve as stable versions constantly. |
13:30.28 | FtH|Daemona | is there a way to still run standalone libs? |
13:30.30 | EvilJohn- | it's find addons correct and usable addons in curse |
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13:31.04 | EvilJohn- | Orionshock: you're talking about process, I'm talking about resources. |
13:31.18 | durcyn | you're confusing curseforge with curse a bit. |
13:31.25 | Pneumatus | Orionshock: do you develop primarily on CF then port to wowace, or vice versa? |
13:31.31 | b00gy | hi is someone here who can help me a little with statblock_core/ldb? having a little trouble with the text on my block not updating |
13:31.35 | Orionshock | EvilJohn-: no im thinking big picture not little one :D |
13:31.40 | nevcairiel | If all goes well, Curse will not be the only release site the new WoWAce will support |
13:31.46 | durcyn | b00gy: shoot |
13:31.49 | EvilJohn- | bah |
13:31.51 | EvilJohn- | arrogant. |
13:32.03 | Orionshock | Pneumatus: mostly on CF, then once a week or so i push to wowace due to easier access fan base |
13:32.25 | Pneumatus | also, much love for GuildCraft, and thanks for fixing the externals so promptly after i mailed you :) |
13:32.45 | b00gy | durcyn: well i have an sbc block and it does all i want except updating the text on my block, do i have to call something like update()? im setting all the .text .value fields... |
13:32.48 | Orionshock | Pneumatus: sure, just a question, how many ppl in ur guild use it? |
13:33.06 | Pneumatus | id guess around 15 |
13:33.13 | durcyn | b00gy: no, just set the text on your event/onupdate/whatever. it's up to the display to refresh it. |
13:33.15 | Orionshock | o.O |
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13:33.54 | durcyn | b00gy: all this and more by the magic of callbacks |
13:33.56 | Pneumatus | maybe more, but looking at my tailoring tab i have 10-15 crafters for lots of the items there |
13:34.02 | b00gy | durcyn: what do i do if it doesnt update then? i use statblock_core and it doesnt update the text :/ |
13:34.11 | durcyn | b00gy: what's your data source? |
13:34.27 | Orionshock | Pneumatus: do u have the latest from wowace? if so & u can mouse over the fubar icon and see how many ppl are there |
13:34.43 | Pneumatus | let me update it :) |
13:34.50 | b00gy | i overwrote the LoggingCombat function to set some text, so the /combatlog or a click on my block does change the text |
13:34.54 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
13:35.09 | Saroz | aaaand Parrot dont work, who could have guessed |
13:35.41 | durcyn | b00gy: you're not hearing me. what's the data source, is it some published code, or something you wrote, or what? what's the block? |
13:36.01 | Orionshock | Saroz: works for me :D |
13:36.22 | Saroz | heals dont |
13:36.32 | b00gy | durcyn: im not getting what you mean :D i wrote the lua code by myself its not public atm at least not in the sbc version |
13:36.37 | Saroz | self heals |
13:36.50 | durcyn | b00gy: that's what i wanted to know. can you pastey it? |
13:36.58 | b00gy | durcyn: sure, sec |
13:36.58 | durcyn | and i mean pastey.net, not spam here. |
13:37.22 | Saroz | oh they do |
13:37.57 | b00gy | durcyn: http://ace.pastey.net/92033 |
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13:39.13 | Pneumatus | just updated to 78842... there's nothing on the mouseover of the fubar icon to say how many people are using it |
13:39.22 | Orionshock | oh |
13:39.38 | Orionshock | go to options -> fubar opts -> Enable Extended Tooltip |
13:40.17 | Orionshock | i figured not everyone would care so i made that display optional |
13:40.47 | Pneumatus | "Show Version for Realm" is there, but not Enable Extended Tooltip |
13:40.52 | Orionshock | hehe |
13:40.54 | Orionshock | ya that one |
13:41.10 | Orionshock | note to self change name of that options to something else.... |
13:41.16 | Pneumatus | 41 in that list, but some are gonna be alts |
13:41.25 | Orionshock | fk me.. |
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13:41.56 | Pneumatus | i just updated from wowace and my version says cursedistro :P |
13:42.03 | Orionshock | Pneumatus: ?> |
13:42.36 | Pneumatus | next to my char name it says "78842-Curse-Distro" where most of the guys have versions that say "-WoWAce-Distro" at the end of the version number |
13:42.42 | durcyn | b00gy: just write an Update() function that calls _G.LoggingCombat() and sets up the display, why are you trying to hook? |
13:43.04 | CIA-45 | 03orionshock * r78848 10GuildCraft/core.lua: GuildCraft: typo in core, this is wowace not cf |
13:43.37 | Pneumatus | you realise if someone is in more than one guild on a realm then all the guild craft info is saved (and probably shared) from all these other chars right? |
13:43.47 | b00gy | durcyn: to intercept the /combatlog, dont like polling |
13:43.48 | Orionshock | sorta |
13:44.17 | b00gy | durcyn: but that doesnt change my problem, its not the hook but the textdisplay that doesnt work |
13:44.19 | Orionshock | Pneumatus: if ur in several guilds on the same server, then yes you'll see the merged data |
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13:44.33 | durcyn | oh, buggrit, that doesn't generate an event? how quaint. |
13:44.46 | Orionshock | & off line checks are also with in guild |
13:44.48 | Pneumatus | but will my "guild a" data be synched to "guild b" with the new offline database sync thing? |
13:45.22 | Orionshock | nope due to logic checks, you have to be in the Offline table as populated by GuildRosterUpdate |
13:45.30 | Pneumatus | ahh |
13:45.57 | Orionshock | now if i added a Chat channel synch, then it would.. and i don't think i'll do that tbh |
13:46.02 | Pneumatus | so _i_ will have listings from both guilds but the guilds wont cross-populate |
13:46.09 | Orionshock | correct |
13:46.16 | Pneumatus | fair enough |
13:46.43 | Orionshock | and it's also limited to faction-realm, so if ur pve and have toons on both sides then u'll only see suff per faction per realm |
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13:55.09 | b00gy | durcyn: i found the 'error', if value doesnt actually change (only suffix) nothing happens |
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13:58.15 | Lyn_ | moo |
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14:05.01 | durcyn | b00gy: eh, i'd have to go back over the spec, but if you're not using value it should work on text |
14:07.03 | b00gy | durcy: so only text and not value+suffix should work then? i'll give it a try :) would also solve my coloring problem :P |
14:08.08 | durcyn | i've got a local addon i use for displaying loot type, that i use only text for. text changes update the display. |
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14:10.28 | CIA-45 | 03isler * r78849 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
14:10.28 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
14:10.28 | CIA-45 | - zhCN update |
14:10.46 | b00gy | durcan: that worked, didnt knew value+suffix and text were exclusive...well now i know :) thanks a lot |
14:11.00 | b00gy | *note to my self: learn typing* |
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14:17.01 | Kaelten | hows it goin |
14:19.02 | Lyn_ | *yawn* sleeep |
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14:26.06 | Zyndrome | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/henroid/wowscrnshot071908163607cb7.jpg |
14:26.07 | Zyndrome | oh wtf |
14:26.21 | Lyn_ | GIEF |
14:26.29 | Lyn_ | is this engineer mount? *hope hope hope* |
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14:27.27 | Zyndrome | if it is, I'm happy I keeped the profession |
14:27.44 | Zyndrome | (and who doesn't want a helicopter?) |
14:27.48 | Lyn_ | where do you look for screens? |
14:28.01 | Zyndrome | just getting them linked to me on IRC on occassion |
14:28.08 | Lyn_ | :O |
14:28.26 | Zyndrome | (wtb beta key and I shall deliver) |
14:28.32 | Lyn_ | me too |
14:29.17 | Zyndrome | if not, I can only pat myself on the back for being a Battlefield Heroes beta tester :< |
14:29.57 | Lyn_ | what is battlefield? lol :p |
14:30.04 | nevcairiel | EA does actually run beta tests? I thought they just sell the shit |
14:30.11 | nevcairiel | Oh wait, heroes, that was this free game, right? |
14:30.19 | Zyndrome | yeah |
14:30.36 | nevcairiel | Where you can buy additional stuff to make the game more fun |
14:31.08 | Zyndrome | if you're desperate |
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14:31.59 | Fisker- | nevcairiel they only run beta tests for commercial purposes of course |
14:34.24 | Zyndrome | http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/867/wowscrnshot070208144618zg7.jpg |
14:34.25 | Zyndrome | what an UI.. |
14:34.55 | Lyn_ | TUPAC IS ALIVE! |
14:35.24 | MoonWitch | I thought I'd seen it all |
14:35.26 | Kalroth | WADDUP |
14:35.31 | Lyn_ | ! |
14:35.31 | MoonWitch | but that ... dayumn |
14:35.36 | MoonWitch | LYN! |
14:35.38 | Lyn_ | MOONY! |
14:35.43 | thul | that was just bad, bad, bad. |
14:35.51 | Lyn_ | lol @ the car buff |
14:35.52 | MoonWitch | I've just sent all my stuff to a friend (including gold) |
14:36.00 | Lyn_ | woot? |
14:36.17 | Lyn_ | you playin' europe now for srsly? |
14:36.19 | MoonWitch | it's called "now no way back, am EU" |
14:36.21 | MoonWitch | yah |
14:36.29 | Lyn_ | :D |
14:36.34 | MoonWitch | i kept going back due to friends and money |
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14:36.44 | Lyn_ | that sucks.. but hey, you can now sleep the whole night |
14:36.58 | MoonWitch | getting rid of gold etc to friends, told people what my IM is ... |
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14:37.02 | MoonWitch | so yah |
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14:37.04 | MoonWitch | wb cnc |
14:37.12 | Lyn_ | :) |
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14:37.24 | Lyn_ | so i can make a DK on your realm and just goin on your nerves? lol :D |
14:37.28 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: we have a bad external in the repo |
14:37.28 | Kaelten | :s |
14:37.28 | Kaelten | does anyone have the time to track it down? Its for libstub and i can give a list of likely targets |
14:37.38 | MoonWitch | yah |
14:37.44 | MoonWitch | going to play with cnc :) |
14:37.52 | Lyn_ | ally or horde? |
14:37.55 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: just wait until the script is done? |
14:37.56 | MoonWitch | magtheridon |
14:38.02 | MoonWitch | horde |
14:38.04 | Lyn_ | ah nice |
14:38.17 | MoonWitch | if you spoke english in your guild, i'd consider you lol |
14:38.22 | MoonWitch | but german ain't my thing |
14:38.33 | Lyn_ | haha |
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14:39.05 | Lyn_ | yeah... sometimes i wish it wouldnt be my thing, too.. (guys who called themselves "beerdrinker" and stuff) |
14:39.17 | MoonWitch | I could learn, but do you reallllly wanna see a healer go "say that again in english" in the middle of archimonde |
14:39.24 | Lyn_ | hahaha |
14:39.26 | Lyn_ | yes! |
14:39.45 | Lyn_ | "HEIL MICH ENDLICH" - "what?" - "dont say what again!" .. pulp fiction time :p |
14:40.20 | MoonWitch | so i has from now til sept to get bt ready from lvl1 |
14:40.22 | MoonWitch | ;) |
14:40.30 | Lyn_ | gogo! |
14:40.40 | MoonWitch | I needz name for ma undead priest |
14:40.41 | MoonWitch | lol |
14:40.48 | Lyn_ | Rottenbritney! |
14:40.50 | Lyn_ | *fg* |
14:40.53 | MoonWitch | no |
14:40.55 | MoonWitch | lol |
14:41.00 | Lyn_ | ohh ^^ |
14:41.07 | MoonWitch | and rottennicole or rottenparis no |
14:41.34 | Dark_Elf | undeadmoonwitch |
14:41.38 | Lyn_ | haha |
14:41.45 | MoonWitch | lol |
14:41.50 | MoonWitch | see cnc said moonwitch too |
14:41.57 | MoonWitch | but there's so many already :( |
14:42.11 | MoonWitch | brb |
14:42.17 | Lyn_ | rottenmoon! :p ... my undead priest name was the town "rotterdam" |
14:43.22 | nevcairiel | Why do people willingly play undeads |
14:43.34 | ckknight | nevcairiel: what's wrong with undead? |
14:43.34 | Vulcanus | OH FFS |
14:43.43 | nevcairiel | they are freaking ugly |
14:43.49 | ckknight | I don't mind em |
14:43.49 | Vulcanus | I went downtown to buy a game card cos the credit card thing didnt work |
14:43.52 | Vulcanus | AND NOW THEY FIXED IT |
14:43.55 | Vulcanus | rararararara |
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14:44.12 | Dark_Elf | maybe cause they can swim without drowning hehe |
14:44.45 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: ? |
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14:44.57 | nevcairiel | Dark_Elf: they changed that after beta, now they only have a 50% time bonus or so |
14:45.20 | Lyn_ | mh.. |
14:46.35 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78850 10FeedMachine/: FeedMachine: fix externals |
14:46.39 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: i seriously hope the CF script is more resilient |
14:46.40 | Industrial | in that case why play wit a tauren or dwarf or gnome |
14:46.53 | Industrial | with* |
14:47.04 | Lyn_ | tauren = you like burgers |
14:47.26 | durcyn | are you going to do pvp or pve with it, moonie? |
14:47.31 | Lyn_ | dwarf = you are always drunk ... and gnome... you are... dunno |
14:47.33 | durcyn | also, i just called you moonie. |
14:47.38 | durcyn | nm |
14:47.40 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: talking about the sync to curse script? |
14:47.49 | nevcairiel | no the packager |
14:49.42 | CIA-45 | 03trasher * r78851 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
14:49.42 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
14:49.42 | CIA-45 | - frFR update |
14:50.09 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r78852 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (6 files): AtlasLoot_BCInstances: Locale updates |
14:51.12 | MoonWitch | ok back |
14:51.23 | Lyn_ | :) |
14:51.25 | MoonWitch | yall do have a point regarding the moonwitch name lol |
14:51.53 | MoonWitch | csi is distracting .. |
14:52.00 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r78853 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/ (7 files): AtlasLoot_Crafting: Locales update |
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14:52.20 | Lyn_ | my paladin has the same name as the csi:miami guy ! |
14:52.27 | MoonWitch | horatio? |
14:52.36 | MoonWitch | I love Calleigh |
14:52.52 | Lyn_ | horatio, yes, but with a c, cause the t-one was already taken |
14:53.16 | Lyn_ | everytime i'm coming online with him, i do it like the opening of csi:miami ... *sunglasses and YEAAAH* :D |
14:53.36 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r78854 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/ (7 files): AtlasLoot_OldInstances: Locales update |
14:54.48 | MoonWitch | only good thing is that I can just change the realmlist.wtf (and probably config.wtf too) |
14:54.57 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r78855 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/ (7 files): AtlasLoot_RepFactions: Locales update |
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14:55.21 | Lyn_ | :) |
14:55.22 | Lyn_ | nice |
14:58.46 | Pneumatus | hmm, i must be missing something using the latest versions of babble-boss and babble-zone |
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15:00.26 | Hjalte | ckknight: "A new version of Cartographer3 has been detected. You have 3.0.8, Sobanator has 3.0.7.2. You can upgrade at http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/12701/" - Want a ticket on that? |
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15:00.42 | ckknight | yes, I do |
15:00.47 | ckknight | odd |
15:00.56 | ckknight | wonder why is misdetected |
15:01.23 | Fisker- | perhaps it thinks it's 308 vs. 3072 |
15:02.05 | Lyn_ | ckk, do you still work on pitbull2 ... or who works on it? cause i want vertical space, not only horizontal spacing for aura :x ... :) |
15:02.59 | ckknight | sorta |
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15:05.18 | Lyn_ | so... afk |
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15:18.48 | Pneumatus | anyone know if the timed chests in za are on cartographer instanceloot, i cant see them for the life of me |
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15:20.11 | Obelixprime | has anyone received a beta invite yet? |
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15:23.09 | Pneumatus | ahh, PT-InstanceLoot doesnt have the ZA timed drops in it seems |
15:24.28 | CIA-45 | 03ananhaid * r78856 10Parrot/Locales/ (ParrotLocale-zhCN.lua ParrotLocale-zhTW.lua): |
15:24.28 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
15:24.28 | CIA-45 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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15:30.16 | KriLL3 | why doesn't [TalentTree(unit="target")] work? |
15:30.25 | KriLL3 | player does, but I don't really need to know my own talent spec... |
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15:44.21 | Hjalte | ckknight: The waypoint interface in Cartographer 3 does not support addons like Lightheaded at the moment? |
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15:45.06 | KriLL3 | I doubt it |
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15:53.51 | ckknight | Hjalte: it's the other way around |
15:54.20 | ckknight | Hjalte: it forces QuestHelper support, through a hack, currently |
15:54.35 | CIA-45 | 03jwensley2 * r78857 10MageAnnounce/ (5 files): |
15:54.35 | CIA-45 | MageAnnounce: |
15:54.35 | CIA-45 | - updated to Ace3 |
15:54.35 | CIA-45 | - reordered and named some options |
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15:56.35 | Ackis | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/sec :D |
15:57.30 | Pneumatus | anyone know if theres a localisation lib with talent tree names in? |
15:58.33 | Fisker- | Ackis |
15:58.35 | Fisker- | i need beta |
15:58.42 | Ackis | Fisker-: blow me? |
15:58.47 | Ackis | hehe |
15:58.48 | Ackis | <3 |
15:59.14 | Fisker- | for a beta key? |
15:59.15 | Fisker- | sure |
16:00.07 | Ackis | lol |
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16:01.03 | selckin | ah man, really hate getting disturbed and totaly forget what i was working on |
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16:06.24 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert 07WotLK * r78858 10Parrot/: |
16:06.24 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
16:06.24 | CIA-45 | - make WotLK-branch |
16:08.35 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert 07Parrot (newCombatLog) * r78859 10Parrot/: |
16:08.35 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
16:08.35 | CIA-45 | - remove branch, as it was merged to trunk |
16:09.48 | CIA-45 | 03cwdg * r78860 10Decursive/localization.cn.lua: |
16:09.48 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
16:09.48 | CIA-45 | - clean up... |
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16:11.55 | Ackis | ARL has surpased 100k downloads from the 3 major release sites |
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16:29.31 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert 07WotLK * r78861 10Parrot/Code/ (Display.lua Triggers.lua): |
16:29.31 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
16:29.31 | CIA-45 | - make work with WotLK |
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16:40.39 | smallbrain | profalber1: did you fix the thorns-not-showing-up (ret aura behaves the same btw) before merging it to trunk? ;) |
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16:41.16 | sb | Saroz! |
16:41.54 | profalbert | smallbrain: i think, didn't test it though |
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16:43.15 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: funny how one always notices that one's nick is wrong only after you write something ;D |
16:44.12 | profalbert | pidgin kind of sucks as an IRC-client |
16:44.32 | Gnarfoz | probably, yes |
16:45.28 | Fisker- | giev beta Gnarfoz |
16:45.29 | Fisker- | ;_; |
16:45.36 | Gnarfoz | giev beta Fisker- |
16:45.39 | Gnarfoz | =[ |
16:45.43 | profalbert | hides |
16:45.48 | Chompers | Fisker-, give me a beta or love |
16:45.49 | Chompers | or both |
16:45.54 | Fisker- | no Chompers |
16:45.57 | Fisker- | giev beta Gnarfoz |
16:46.02 | Fisker- | i need ;_; |
16:46.05 | Gnarfoz | ~kiss Fisker- |
16:46.06 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Zicon a big kiss on the neck |
16:46.11 | Gnarfoz | I need too, but I don't have :( |
16:46.37 | Kaelten | just a reminder guys, we'll be answering questions regarding the wowace upgrade in #wowace-upgrade, starts in about 15 mins. |
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16:47.18 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: logs available online afterwards? :-D |
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16:47.37 | CIA-45 | 03kneeki * r78862 10ClassButtons/Localization.lua: |
16:47.37 | CIA-45 | ClassButtons: |
16:47.38 | CIA-45 | - Removed hunter tracking skills from vert. bar. |
16:47.41 | Kaelten | planning on it josh |
16:48.40 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: thorns are showing |
16:48.48 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78863 10SpellReminder/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
16:48.48 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
16:48.48 | CIA-45 | - ADD: Filter Priorities |
16:48.58 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: that's a good sign, then ;) I'll check pally aura soon |
16:49.08 | Kaelten | Josh_Borke: but yer welcome to sit in anyway :) |
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16:50.43 | Josh_Borke | i won't be around during |
16:50.48 | Josh_Borke | but i'll pipe in afterwards :-) |
16:50.58 | Josh_Borke | glad you're able to find time to do something about it :-) |
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16:52.27 | Saroz | sb |
16:52.53 | sb | mh nevermind "reset positions" fixed it ;0 |
16:52.59 | CIA-45 | 03trasher * r78864 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
16:52.59 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
16:52.59 | CIA-45 | - frFR update |
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16:53.09 | sb | sRaidFrame issues with groups 1-5 |
16:53.40 | Kaelten | got about 10 mins guys |
16:53.45 | Saroz | reset positions |
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16:55.27 | eliteevil | yay, WAU got updated and doesn't crash when I open it! =D |
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16:57.42 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if there is a minimap button collector addon that isn't made of complete fail? |
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16:58.12 | Kaelten | eliteevil: :) |
16:59.06 | nevcairiel | For anyone that might be interested, a Q/A session about the upcoming changes to WoWAce will be held in #wowace-upgrade now. Join to listen or to ask :) |
16:59.09 | eliteevil | I'll assume that other things were changed too, but not having to move the stupid windows crash report out of my way each time is definite win. |
17:00.19 | Zyndrome | Hjalte , I prefer Fubar2Broker + Fortress |
17:00.51 | Hjalte | Zyndrome: Well, I don't like to see my minimap buttons all of the time and I also don't need to see their text. |
17:01.35 | KriLL3 | why doesn't [TalentTree(unit="target")] work? |
17:01.41 | KriLL3 | player does, but I don't really need to know my own talent spec... |
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17:01.53 | ckknight | KriLL3: are they an enemy? |
17:01.57 | KriLL3 | yeah |
17:01.59 | Shirik | ... |
17:02.02 | ckknight | pvp enabled? |
17:02.08 | KriLL3 | ofc |
17:02.11 | Shirik | stop trying to break game mechanics |
17:02.12 | ckknight | Blizzard disabled that ability |
17:02.15 | Shirik | :P |
17:02.16 | ckknight | so no soup for you |
17:02.28 | KriLL3 | how can tiptac show me their spec then? |
17:02.47 | Shirik | it may make guesses or collect information and remember |
17:03.04 | KriLL3 | certain auras etc? |
17:03.19 | Shirik | there's a lot of ways you can make guesses |
17:03.40 | Hjalte | Zyndrome: Do you have a picture of your setup or is it just fubar-like? |
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17:05.03 | Zyndrome | I've setup my Fortress to only show the addons on mouseover |
17:05.22 | Zyndrome | and the minimap only has one button: BaudGear |
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17:13.29 | Saroz | [2008/07/21 19:13:04-34-x12]: AceEvent-2.0-66043:369: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message --- |
17:13.31 | Saroz | fix :( |
17:14.18 | nevcairiel | Thats obviously not a Ace2 error |
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17:19.30 | kenlyric | stop invalid typing |
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17:22.34 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78865 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot: Merge this fix |
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17:46.02 | NeoTron | lol@ leveling weapon skill as a warlock for demon form |
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17:47.16 | profalbert | i have them at 346/349 ;) |
17:47.19 | NeoTron | my druid MT friend will drool over this one: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/items/rare/rareitem_044.jpg |
17:47.41 | Dashkal | ooo, that's a pretty staff |
17:47.47 | fewyn | i already am drooling nevcairiel |
17:48.06 | thul | nice ap on that on :-P |
17:48.15 | NeoTron | wow how weird - wonder if the "on use" is really meant to be "on use": http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/items/rare/rareitem_050.jpg |
17:48.21 | NeoTron | never seen an offhand with a use before like that |
17:48.28 | Dashkal | actually, I was thinking 1090 was pretty low for level 76, but the expertise is nice |
17:48.28 | thul | hmmm, anyone done any rogue-work in beta yet? |
17:49.10 | silentium | ckknight: thanks for fixing the outdated LibRollCall-3.0 reference in Cartographer_Waypoints.toc :) there is another one in Cartographer_GuildPositions.toc though |
17:49.21 | NeoTron | my ioptions for beta is DK Tank or kep playign my Lock |
17:49.28 | ckknight | lame |
17:49.31 | NeoTron | I'm hoping to test DK in beta before I make a decision |
17:50.04 | fewyn | So let's say I'm interested in coding/working with lua for addons, I have some ideas for an addon or two but wouldn't have any idea where to start or what I'd need to know. Suggestions or halp? |
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17:51.14 | ckknight | ~wowprogramming |
17:51.15 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
17:51.22 | Dashkal | fewyn: I used wowwiki and the source of other addons as my starting point. And that, that book is nice |
17:51.58 | NeoTron | can't wait for this week of raiding |
17:52.03 | NeoTron | our MT warrior and MT druid are both on vacation |
17:52.11 | Pkekyo| | anyone know what day it is? |
17:52.23 | kenlyric | so, Omen has now officially defeated KTM |
17:52.25 | NeoTron | so we'll be using our MT pally, holy-with-prot gear pally, 2nd feral druid and one of our dps warriors |
17:52.25 | fewyn | monday? |
17:52.25 | Pneumatus | depends what tz you're in |
17:52.33 | Pneumatus | could be monday, could be tuesday |
17:52.41 | NeoTron | kenlyric: "now"? you mean like a year ago ;-) |
17:52.48 | kenlyric | but it's official now |
17:52.50 | NeoTron | kenlyric: did the KTM author fold the addon? |
17:52.50 | kenlyric | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/7/21/vacillation-street/ |
17:53.02 | Pkekyo| | Pneumatus: GMT +2 during DST |
17:53.24 | Pkekyo| | the date is july 21st |
17:53.26 | NeoTron | ahha. "Win Omen" |
17:53.32 | Pneumatus | its monday then :) |
17:53.47 | NeoTron | "No I'm angry that I understood all that shit." lol |
17:53.59 | Pkekyo| | thanks Pneumatus :P |
17:54.14 | Dashkal | rofl. very nice |
17:54.28 | NeoTron | did a 2nd Hyjal alt/pug run |
17:54.40 | NeoTron | no wipes until archimonde but we tried a few times and just called it |
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18:00.07 | ashb | hmmm - anyone know of any way of finding out what Attributes a frame has? |
18:05.30 | Xuerian | kenlyric: You know, Achievements actually WOULD be fun to add to wow. Difficult maybe... but a interesting addon :p |
18:07.09 | NeoTron | so new wowace, will it have a "developer access" type download system still or only explicedly released stuff? |
18:07.11 | kenlyric | ? |
18:07.23 | kenlyric | oh, you mean community made achievements |
18:07.30 | kenlyric | because uh, they are adding them to wow :) |
18:07.51 | Stanzilla | NeoTron: /join #wowace-upgrade |
18:08.29 | Tornhoof | i'd like custom achievements, like most hated person on the server or something ;) |
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18:11.54 | Aiiane | On a complete aside, Kaelten, if you're going to use personal pronouns in announcements on CurseForge, you should probably have the main page display the authors of announcements, instead of having to click on them. |
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18:12.12 | ckknight | Aiiane: I think there's already a ticket for that |
18:12.18 | Aiiane | Heh |
18:13.16 | Aiiane | ah yes, from Dashkal |
18:13.34 | Dashkal | snickers |
18:13.34 | fewyn | Vulcanus needs to read msn messages |
18:13.47 | Vulcanus | fewyn needs to fix his msn to receive and send messages properly |
18:13.50 | Aiiane | posted 12 days ago... chop chop Kaelten! :P |
18:13.52 | Vulcanus | because fewyn hasnt replied to mine |
18:13.52 | Vulcanus | XD |
18:14.03 | Kaelten | ~lart Aiiane |
18:14.03 | purl | stabs Aiiane |
18:14.04 | fewyn | strange |
18:14.27 | fewyn | recionnects |
18:16.59 | Xuerian | kenlyric: Uh. They are? |
18:17.11 | kenlyric | you |
18:17.12 | kenlyric | rock |
18:17.15 | kenlyric | c/d? |
18:17.25 | Xuerian | c :D |
18:17.26 | kenlyric | actually, the you should have been under the rock |
18:17.30 | Xuerian | :( |
18:17.43 | kenlyric | seriously though |
18:17.59 | kenlyric | you were joking I'm guessing, or you just got out of a coma |
18:18.11 | Xuerian | Nu, I haven't been paying attention to wow for a while... |
18:18.20 | kenlyric | well, but you're on this channel |
18:18.28 | Xuerian | Uh-huh, and well |
18:18.34 | Xuerian | coma is about accurate, woke up half a hour ago |
18:18.35 | kenlyric | the big stuff is bound to catch your attention :) |
18:18.40 | kenlyric | did you know the beta started? |
18:18.51 | Xuerian | I didn't get my key :( |
18:19.22 | ShaneSveller | give it time, they're "ramping up" |
18:19.34 | Xuerian | kenlyric: Srsly though, achievements y/n? |
18:19.44 | kenlyric | yes |
18:19.49 | kenlyric | 500 ready to go for wrath |
18:19.54 | Xuerian | wow, meet handbag |
18:20.02 | kenlyric | though, "win omen" is not one of them |
18:20.02 | Xuerian | handbag/wow, meet hell |
18:21.21 | Xuerian | Hm, where to download the client ahead of time... |
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18:24.05 | Aiiane | http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Main_Page has download links, Xuerian |
18:24.16 | Xuerian | Aiiane: Much thanks |
18:26.34 | Xuerian | sheds a tear at the druid/feral info page. |
18:26.54 | Xuerian | The only thing <Sniff> that makes me sad <Sniff-wipe> .. I won't be able to put points in each and every one |
18:27.43 | selckin | lol out of combat resurrect for druids |
18:27.46 | selckin | pff! |
18:28.34 | Xuerian | Greh. Pfft. Inconsequential. |
18:28.38 | Xuerian | Infected Wounds <3 |
18:29.57 | eliteevil | how about the 20% spell haste from crits with boomkin aura.. wtf is that. |
18:30.28 | Xuerian | Balance is Irrelevant. You will be infected >_o |
18:30.29 | Dashkal | Xuerian: aren't they beautiful |
18:30.31 | Dashkal | ? |
18:30.45 | Xuerian | Dashkal: Yes, yes they are! mmm om nom nom. |
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18:32.28 | Xuerian | Noooooooo they removed the fun talents from shaman! |
18:33.10 | eliteevil | which? |
18:33.28 | thul | which talents? and any beta-rogues? |
18:33.40 | Xuerian | Imp shammy rage and weapon specialization |
18:34.20 | Lyn_ | i hate ZA |
18:35.03 | thul | Zos angeles? |
18:35.40 | Lyn_ | no |
18:35.42 | Xuerian | The top-tier rogue talents scare me... |
18:35.45 | Lyn_ | zulfu--ingaman |
18:36.58 | thul | Xuerian: which of them? |
18:37.34 | Xuerian | thul: http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Rogue combat and sub. |
18:37.39 | Tornhoof | heh they added maelstrom weapon for that xuerian |
18:37.52 | Tornhoof | but currently it's bugged or misdesigned |
18:37.55 | Xuerian | Tornhoof: As if I don't have enough mana! |
18:38.01 | Xuerian | er. |
18:38.09 | Xuerian | ... |
18:38.12 | thul | Xinhuan: what is so bad about them? |
18:38.16 | Xuerian | I don't have enough mana already :p |
18:38.18 | thul | they look ok, but not _that_ good? |
18:38.28 | Xinhuan | p.s. you are talking to the wrong person |
18:38.32 | Xuerian | thul: because a hero in dota has the combat one and it kills me every time >_> |
18:38.36 | Tornhoof | me neither xuerian, but you should in wotlk, no totem twisting anymore |
18:38.46 | Xuerian | Tornhoof: I run out of mana WITHOUT twisting >_> |
18:38.56 | Tornhoof | uhm? |
18:39.08 | Xuerian | Ok to be fair... This is on a 60 twink in pvp... |
18:39.10 | Tornhoof | manastream, watershield, bow? |
18:39.23 | Tornhoof | hehe |
18:39.23 | Xuerian | And having 2k mana has a little to do with it |
18:39.27 | Tornhoof | hehe |
18:39.36 | Xuerian | BUT NONTHELESS! >.o |
18:40.22 | thul | Xinhuan:P the assasination three seems like a more pve-oriented tree now |
18:40.28 | thul | is that right? |
18:41.15 | Xuerian | Did you just ping Xin again >_> |
18:41.28 | thul | fuck |
18:41.30 | thul | :-( |
18:42.01 | thul | I try, ok? :-P |
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18:42.02 | Xuerian | lol. Xu for me. Xi for him. |
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18:47.05 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r78866 10HealGraph/ (Graph.lua HealGraph.lua HealGraph.toc IncomingDamage.lua): |
18:47.05 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
18:47.05 | CIA-45 | - added first test version of displaying incoming damage |
18:47.05 | CIA-45 | - added options for graphs |
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19:02.52 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: btw, does Parrot support the new (2.4.3) aura refreshes? |
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19:03.11 | Groktar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202274143&sid=1 |
19:03.15 | Groktar | lol @ towerofpower |
19:03.37 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: not yet... there's a little more to it, cause refreshs still fire SPELL_AURA_REMOVED-events |
19:03.48 | Gnarfoz | wth, why would they do it like that |
19:03.53 | Gnarfoz | blizzard >_> |
19:04.39 | Stanzilla | http://bp0.blogger.com/_ynOlmkpsf8U/SGH9EN_tfFI/AAAAAAAAAUQ/0G97xXyntKA/s1600/Dimfall_Issue013HIGH.jpg |
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19:05.33 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: ah right that. I need to add support to CC timers in MagicTargets now when refreshes count |
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19:06.49 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: yeah ;) I think I can think of a handful of addons that aren't yet making use of the new refresh events that probably should |
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19:07.37 | NeoTron | I don't support timers at all right now because there was no way for me to see when it got refreshed |
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19:08.10 | Diao | hmm |
19:08.29 | Diao | Groktar plays on daggerspine huh |
19:12.42 | Groktar | hehe |
19:12.44 | Groktar | ya |
19:13.44 | Diao | hmm |
19:14.04 | KriLL3 | can you join a team ab from a solo ab? |
19:14.05 | Diao | couple friends and i rolled alli there since our mains are blackrock horde |
19:14.13 | Diao | hope you're still selling t6 when we hit 70 :P |
19:14.24 | Diao | don't worry, we have experience ;p |
19:14.30 | Lysithea | what's a good mail addon? I miss the open all button etc |
19:14.37 | Diao | i use jebusmail |
19:15.05 | Saroz | HealGraph is win |
19:15.15 | Groktar | blackrock? |
19:15.19 | Groktar | who were your mains? |
19:15.43 | Diao | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Diaox |
19:15.47 | Diao | ignore the low hp |
19:15.49 | Diao | that's my threat set :P |
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19:16.13 | Groktar | kk, was wondering if you had anything to do with nwtr/unruly people |
19:16.32 | Groktar | because i know they came from blackrock, then went back, then rerolled alliance |
19:16.43 | Diao | nah |
19:16.50 | Diao | we still play blackrock as main/raid |
19:16.56 | Diao | we just rolled on daggerspine to pvp |
19:16.59 | Diao | lol |
19:17.03 | Lysithea | Diao found on wowace? |
19:17.07 | Diao | yes Lysithea |
19:17.11 | Lysithea | thanks |
19:17.14 | Lysithea | Ill try it out |
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19:20.57 | Zidomo | Postal works too |
19:21.44 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78867 10SpellReminder/core.lua: |
19:21.44 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
19:21.44 | CIA-45 | - remove bar update throttling as a temporary fix to some jerky bars. |
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19:30.18 | Hjalte | Is the EU login servers down? |
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19:33.26 | profalbert | Hjalte: seems like it, our hyjal-prot-pally can't get in :( |
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19:38.53 | fewyn | itunes is a pain in the ass |
19:38.54 | Lysithea | finally got on the server |
19:39.11 | Lysithea | Diao jebusmail dont have an open all button :| |
19:39.25 | Diao | o_O |
19:39.28 | Diao | take all? |
19:39.34 | Diao | my mail does |
19:39.35 | Lysithea | where? |
19:40.09 | harldephin | hugs purl |
19:40.15 | Diao | hmm |
19:40.15 | Diao | wait |
19:40.57 | Lysithea | think you might have another addon that does that |
19:41.01 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
19:41.01 | purl | plops Vulcanus into a giant vat of herring |
19:41.11 | Vulcanus | ~lart fewyn |
19:41.11 | purl | overclocks fewyn until fewyn burns out |
19:41.14 | Lysithea | cause this one adds friends alts guildmates and sound on mail |
19:41.26 | Lysithea | cant find anything else in the options, no new buttons |
19:41.34 | Diao | lol |
19:41.36 | Diao | let me check my addon list |
19:41.47 | Diao | could've sworn i deleted all my other mail addons before adding jebusmail |
19:41.47 | Lysithea | :) |
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19:44.59 | Diao | oh |
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19:45.08 | Diao | it's bulkmail |
19:45.10 | Diao | but that's out of date |
19:45.11 | Diao | lol |
19:45.16 | Diao | works fine still though |
19:45.33 | fewyn | i use postal |
19:45.36 | fewyn | over bulkmail |
19:45.48 | Diao | i didn't like postal's format |
19:45.54 | Diao | personal preference though |
19:45.55 | Zidomo | it has open all |
19:46.42 | fewyn | open all is all i really need |
19:46.46 | Lysithea | postal didnt like the several-items-in-one-mail when alt clicking |
19:46.56 | Lysithea | it just mailed them one at a time |
19:46.56 | fewyn | you can turn that off Lyn_ |
19:46.57 | fewyn | Lysithea |
19:47.05 | Lyn_ | ;) |
19:47.12 | Lysithea | oh, true, you probably can... im just retarded |
19:47.23 | Lysithea | checking... :> |
19:47.39 | fewyn | the little arrow torwards the top of the window |
19:47.41 | fewyn | click it |
19:48.06 | Lysithea | will it still automail on full tho? |
19:48.15 | fewyn | i don't think so |
19:48.21 | Lysithea | oh well |
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20:16.48 | Adys | has AceConfig been fully updated for wlk? |
20:16.57 | nevcairiel | who knows |
20:17.01 | nevcairiel | we fixed one bug |
20:17.12 | nevcairiel | but most of us dont have access yet |
20:17.18 | Adys | I get some error "AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua:683: AceConfigRegistry-3.0: ValidateOptionsTable(): unknown error |
20:17.19 | nevcairiel | so we cant confirm everything is working |
20:17.59 | nevcairiel | tell blizz to hurry with the author keys and i'll test the whole Ace3 suite :P |
20:18.15 | nevcairiel | but right now .. :/ |
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20:23.37 | NeoTron | author keys = win |
20:23.58 | Hjalte | Our healers fail at keeping the tanks up on Kalecgos :( My guild fails. |
20:24.31 | Aiiane | I will sympathize with you Hjalte when my guild manages to make it into Sunwell :P |
20:24.38 | sb | twins here :p |
20:24.41 | NeoTron | Hjalte: not too uncommon of a problem |
20:24.47 | selckin | Hjalte: once they learn sunwell = big heals only, things will be fine |
20:24.49 | NeoTron | we STILL have tanks dying there |
20:24.54 | sb | it worked well with conflag on healers only (forward :p) |
20:25.11 | sb | but dps fails on conflag (reverse) |
20:25.12 | NeoTron | sb: did you try to reverse it? |
20:25.18 | NeoTron | hehe |
20:25.31 | nevcairiel | conflag wasnt an issue for us |
20:25.33 | selckin | does anyone have some 2.4.3 combatlogs for me please? preferably of fullish bt/mh/sunwell runs |
20:25.38 | nevcairiel | and imho reverse is easier |
20:25.47 | sb | nevcairiel: yup, also think so |
20:25.49 | NeoTron | we enver tried "forward" |
20:25.53 | sb | but its heavy raid damage :) |
20:26.00 | NeoTron | to us it seemed reverse was easier so we went that way |
20:26.02 | nevcairiel | well phase1 is the same |
20:26.12 | nevcairiel | and phase2 is less dmg than phas1 |
20:26.12 | CIA-45 | 03trasher * r78868 10SpellReminder/locale/frFR.lua: |
20:26.12 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
20:26.12 | CIA-45 | - frFR fix |
20:26.13 | sb | talking about p1 :0 |
20:26.15 | NeoTron | I heard phase 1 is a bit harder in reverse |
20:26.17 | nevcairiel | so it should be fine |
20:26.19 | NeoTron | and p2 is super easy |
20:26.20 | sb | yep it is |
20:26.27 | sb | 40% p1 now... |
20:26.28 | selckin | thing i hate most about sunwell is need you to rebalance for every boss |
20:26.31 | sb | and me OOM :( |
20:26.42 | sb | need innervates *sigh* |
20:26.52 | NeoTron | SP? Class? |
20:26.58 | sb | CoH priest ;) |
20:27.03 | NeoTron | selckin: mainly twins and muru |
20:27.23 | NeoTron | in terms of ratios between roles |
20:27.29 | nevcairiel | every setup kinda needs a unique setup |
20:27.30 | NeoTron | but yeah lots of micromanagement |
20:27.44 | nevcairiel | kalecgos needs 3-4 tanks, a decent amount of healers |
20:28.19 | NeoTron | 3 tanks, 8-9 healers. pretty normal. |
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20:28.28 | nevcairiel | brut is 2 tanks 7-8 healers, felmyst then again 1 tank and 1 prot pala and more healers |
20:28.29 | selckin | pff, can't find any raw combatlogs, and i quit raiding :( how can i test now |
20:28.30 | NeoTron | brut with 2 tanks, 7 healers for us |
20:28.37 | NeoTron | felmyst 2 tanks 8-9 healers |
20:28.48 | nevcairiel | we do kalecgos with 4 tanks, its a bit smoother |
20:28.48 | NeoTron | but we can easily bring a third tank to felmyst |
20:28.49 | Adys | Is there a working addon for wlk that improves error msgs? |
20:28.56 | Adys | as in makes the frame bigger at least |
20:28.59 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I can see how it'd be better |
20:29.15 | NeoTron | Adys: once I get in I'll tell you! |
20:29.38 | Adys | or is there a way to get the content of an error msg >< |
20:29.52 | selckin | Hjalte: can be tanks fault for a big part too, i remember our taking portal and instant taunting on the other side at 50% hp, and dumb stuff lke that :p |
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20:30.28 | Oewyn | has anyone used eeshards before? |
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20:31.14 | Polarina | Oewyn: Ask your question. |
20:31.47 | Oewyn | How to i access the configuration menu for eeshards? |
20:32.07 | Aiiane | does /eeshards not work? |
20:32.08 | Polarina | Oewyn: /eeshard |
20:32.18 | Aiiane | or that |
20:32.23 | Oewyn | there is absolutely no documentation for it included in the mod.. I'm looking at the core.lua file and it appears to have a menu, but //eeshard does nothing |
20:32.33 | Oewyn | or /eeshards |
20:32.41 | Polarina | Oewyn: Can you DCC me the file? |
20:32.54 | Aiiane | its on ace svn |
20:32.56 | Dark_Elf | if its ace3 ya can do /ace3 |
20:32.57 | Aiiane | just pull it from there? |
20:32.59 | Polarina | Or better yet, pastey it. |
20:33.18 | Aiiane | Oewyn - check to make sure it's loaded, too :) |
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20:33.48 | Oewyn | how much of it did you get before i got kicked? |
20:33.51 | Oewyn | yeah i made sure it was loaded |
20:34.28 | Polarina | Oewyn: Pastey! |
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20:34.34 | Oewyn | it's 72 lines |
20:34.48 | Aiiane | ace.pastey.net |
20:34.53 | Polarina | Oewyn: You're lucky we didn't get a single line of it. |
20:35.04 | Oewyn | i pm'ed it |
20:35.08 | Oewyn | not stupid enough to post it in the channel |
20:35.28 | Polarina | Oewyn: Got the first line, that's all. |
20:35.41 | Aiiane | PMs have flood limits too |
20:35.55 | Oewyn | http://ace.pastey.net/92112 |
20:36.28 | Aiiane | seems like /eeShards should work |
20:36.36 | Aiiane | do you have lua errors turned on? |
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20:37.05 | Oewyn | I don't know why it would be turned off. |
20:37.19 | Oewyn | i can list the mod |
20:37.21 | Oewyn | i can load the mod |
20:37.40 | Oewyn | i can enable the mod, i just can't access the menu. |
20:37.51 | Polarina | Oewyn: Turn it on. |
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20:38.58 | Oewyn | where do i turn it on? |
20:39.36 | Aiiane | interface options...um, forget which section its under |
20:39.38 | CIA-45 | 03bam * r78869 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
20:39.38 | CIA-45 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
20:39.39 | CIA-45 | - Price updates. |
20:40.24 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78870 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
20:40.24 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
20:40.24 | CIA-45 | - sets section changes |
20:41.13 | Oewyn | I enabled it and i got no lua errors when i loaded/enabled it |
20:41.14 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78871 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
20:41.14 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
20:41.14 | CIA-45 | - loot structure changes |
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20:45.27 | Oewyn | any ideas? |
20:45.54 | NeoTron | reminds me that a good lock addon still would have a place |
20:46.05 | Polarina | Oewyn: Try to open up the menu. |
20:46.21 | NeoTron | is there a shard addon that allows me to specify the least number of available inventory slots? |
20:46.31 | Aiiane | hm |
20:46.42 | Oewyn | how do i open the menu? |
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20:46.50 | Aiiane | if there isn't, I might have to see about making a patch for eeshards, NeoTron :P |
20:47.15 | NeoTron | I always thought that was the better thing |
20:47.20 | Aiiane | well |
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20:47.23 | NeoTron | I don't care how many shards I have as long as I have space to loot stuff |
20:47.35 | Aiiane | I typically just run eeshards set to my shard bag size |
20:47.42 | Aiiane | unless i'm specifically stocking up for something |
20:47.47 | Aiiane | in which case i just turn autodeletion off |
20:47.53 | Fisker- | i can have 400 shards in a bag |
20:48.04 | NeoTron | Fisker-: shards of love man |
20:48.18 | Fisker- | no iukj |
20:48.20 | Fisker- | no iu |
20:48.21 | Fisker- | no u |
20:48.24 | Aiiane | throws a rotten banana at Fisker- |
20:48.29 | Fisker- | no u :( |
20:48.33 | Oewyn | Neotron, are you using eeshards right now? |
20:48.54 | NeoTron | noope |
20:48.56 | CIA-45 | 03xuerian * r78872 10XLootMaster/ (8 files in 2 dirs): XLootMaster: Bumped TOC, organized localizations. |
20:49.11 | NeoTron | I used ShardAce and finally replaced it since autobar handles the lock specific "toolbar" I liked from it |
20:49.15 | Oewyn | how do you open up the ace option menu? |
20:49.15 | NeoTron | I use nothing now |
20:49.28 | NeoTron | Oewyn: to configure ace2 addons I recommend Niagara |
20:49.39 | NeoTron | assuming eeshards is ace2 |
20:49.52 | Xuerian | Niagara, or rock |
20:50.11 | NeoTron | scissors |
20:50.14 | NeoTron | doh you win |
20:50.37 | Xuerian | Assuming you have rock* (From any of ckk's addons... pitbull, parrot, cowtip, etc...) |
20:50.59 | NeoTron | any ui > no ui / dropdowns :) |
20:51.35 | Xuerian | Ehh, shaddup |
20:53.20 | NeoTron | just saying configuring ace2 addons from 10 level dropdowns is no fun. one of the initial "wtflol" things I had when starting to move towards a more aced set of addons |
20:53.34 | Xuerian | Hey, at least mine aren't ten level |
20:53.43 | Xuerian | Endless loop, maybe... |
20:53.45 | Xuerian | but not ten level! |
20:53.46 | NeoTron | speaking of dropdowns, it's really annoying when I try to do something in a dropdown and every time someone in the raid zones, the dropdown is closes |
20:53.59 | NeoTron | happens with, for example, recount |
20:54.06 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
20:54.09 | Hjalte | selckin: Did you get some combat logs? |
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20:54.41 | selckin | Hjalte: no :( |
20:54.50 | Hjalte | selckin: Do you want 3 hours in Sunwell? |
20:54.58 | NeoTron | I have a combat log from BT/Archi/Muru trash |
20:55.04 | NeoTron | I think |
20:55.40 | Hjalte | Is it bad when I have 1.320 KB of "An action was blocked in combat because of taint from Ace2 - RaidGroupButton1:Show()" lines in my taint.log after just one raid? |
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20:56.00 | nevcairiel | Do you run AuldLangSyne? |
20:56.12 | nevcairiel | with the friendlist plugin enabled |
20:56.14 | Hjalte | Me? No. |
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20:56.27 | nevcairiel | any other addon that modifys your friendlist? |
20:56.52 | Hjalte | Hmm. StatBlock_Folks, maybe. |
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20:57.06 | Funkeh` | no it doesn't |
20:57.12 | Funkeh` | thats a simple friends review |
20:57.47 | Stanzilla | teknicolor or so? |
20:58.06 | Hjalte | Using Chatter to make my life colourfull |
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20:58.53 | Oewyn | oh well, i give up, eeshards deleted |
20:59.46 | Hjalte | GuildFilter makes me able to search and such for the guild pane, I'm not sure if it touches the frends pane as well. |
21:00.18 | nevcairiel | Hm could be that it taints the whole UI |
21:00.20 | nevcairiel | but dunno |
21:00.23 | nevcairiel | shouldnt really |
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21:03.12 | copystring | XLoot is incompatible with RBM? wth |
21:03.50 | Xuerian | copystring: I saw something about that... I really have no idea |
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21:04.21 | copystring | :< |
21:05.04 | Xuerian | Dun even know what rbm is >_> |
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21:05.15 | copystring | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12443.0 |
21:05.23 | fewyn | yawn |
21:05.27 | fewyn | itunes is the devil |
21:05.45 | selckin1 | did someone have logs for me? i got disconnected :( |
21:08.12 | Xuerian | copystring: Only one post about it in XLoot's thread, and it's a truckload of memory allocation errors from acelib. I'm just curious what is conflicting between rbm and xloot. |
21:08.40 | copystring | i just found this http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12443.msg226431#msg226431 |
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21:09.48 | Xuerian | copystring: If you run the two, could you pastey all the errors you get? Also try with just xloot, and then the modules too. (AnchorsAway can be disabled without the other modules running) -- All of the posts just say it's those three at a time that cause the errors, no mention about anything xloot is doing. |
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21:10.01 | Xuerian | copystring: If you don't, nevermind. |
21:10.02 | NeoTron | can you get someone's professions programatically? |
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21:10.19 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Caching the armory? |
21:10.25 | NeoTron | no thanks :P |
21:10.28 | copystring | buggrabber doesnt log all of them, i get 10 errors atm.. |
21:10.29 | NeoTron | it's not that important. heh' |
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21:11.11 | Xuerian | copystring: Well, whatever errors you do get that aren't just "acelib memory whatnot" |
21:11.32 | copystring | mostly nil |
21:11.36 | NeoTron | Xuerian: you reminded me that I need to make, especially, a new master looter addon |
21:11.49 | copystring | for each .lua in /Addons/XLoot/ |
21:11.55 | NeoTron | more specifically some sort of raid loot handling addon |
21:11.59 | Xuerian | 0_o |
21:12.08 | Xuerian | Oh? |
21:12.10 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: MasterLoot |
21:12.17 | [Ammo] | by moi |
21:12.23 | Trell_ | XLoot is awesome too |
21:12.25 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: orly? any page? |
21:12.25 | Trell_ | well, imo |
21:12.30 | [Ammo] | wowinterface |
21:12.33 | [Ammo] | seek it out :p |
21:12.36 | [Ammo] | or wowace |
21:12.39 | NeoTron | I use xloot |
21:12.48 | Xuerian | Ammo's is here http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9180-MasterLoot.html |
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21:12.54 | [Ammo] | well masterloot only replaces the masterloot menu |
21:12.58 | NeoTron | but xloot is unmaintaned (bugs sometimes) and doesn't do cool stuff |
21:13.10 | Trell_ | i've never had any issues with it |
21:13.12 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: a maintained master loot window addon is not a bad thing |
21:13.17 | NeoTron | Trell_: I have. sometimes it freaks out |
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21:13.19 | Xuerian | NeoTron: If it bugs, perhaps you should post it in my thread :P |
21:13.41 | Trell_ | and I love the guild/raid/rw spam :P |
21:13.43 | copystring | http://pastebin.com/d2f979086 http://pastebin.com/dcf5afed 2 examples |
21:14.00 | NeoTron | Xuerian: I got the impression last time I checked tghat thread that no one was maintaining it |
21:14.14 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: so basically a sorted master loot menu. |
21:14.29 | NeoTron | my addon idea could be used in addition to such an addon really |
21:14.48 | Trell_ | NeoTron; is it you that handles MagicMarker - and is it still being updated |
21:14.52 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: mine sorts by class |
21:14.52 | Xuerian | NeoTron: I check it a couple times a month at least. |
21:14.54 | [Ammo] | in submenus |
21:14.58 | [Ammo] | using the blizzard dropdown menu |
21:15.04 | NeoTron | Trell_: it's me. haven't done anything in a few weeks but yes |
21:15.12 | [Ammo] | and adds self and random loot |
21:15.21 | Xuerian | NeoTron: At the very least, post the errors/circumstances. |
21:15.29 | NeoTron | Xuerian: if I get it again I will |
21:15.34 | NeoTron | it's not common |
21:15.39 | Trell_ | I had an issue with it in ZA, but I didn't SS it, and I can't recall what the problem was now - I'll try and replicate it again later in the week >_< not very helpful I know. |
21:21.12 | dibster | Is there any way to track mobs you are in combat with? Like using the Threat-2.0 lib or something? |
21:21.28 | NeoTron | dibster: MagicTargets perhaps. it's more meant for a raid environment |
21:21.42 | NeoTron | but will keep track of mobs you've targeted or moused over (or members of the party/raid) |
21:21.56 | dibster | I was thinking of raid yes, to keep track of trashmobs in sunwell |
21:22.00 | NeoTron | but it doesn't try to track the health of mobs not currently targeted |
21:22.10 | NeoTron | then yes, MagicTargets is what you want >:-) /plug |
21:22.18 | dibster | health doesnt matter :-) ty |
21:22.24 | NeoTron | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9098-MagicTargets.html has some screenshots |
21:22.39 | NeoTron | well in a raid environment it'll show you health (as well as tank/cc status and number of people targeting the mob) |
21:23.17 | dibster | i will give it a shot, it looks good from the screenshots, thank you very much |
21:23.45 | NeoTron | people in my raid (just normal players, not raid leader typeS) like it too |
21:24.13 | NeoTron | ironically I made it due to wanting to keep track of ... trash mobs in SWP |
21:24.26 | NeoTron | because sometimes I forgot we had a sheep left or what not |
21:24.56 | dibster | yeah, i dont know if its just me, but theres sheeps everywhere in sunwell ;) |
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21:25.47 | NeoTron | if you go with 7 mages you can pretty much go with 1 tank. it's sheep heaven |
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21:27.31 | dibster | yellow = being tanked/taking damage/not cc'ed, blue = cc'ed? |
21:29.23 | NeoTron | green = tanked, yellow = not doing anything, blue = cc, red = killing ur healers |
21:29.26 | NeoTron | colors are configrable |
21:29.56 | NeoTron | there's a bug with warrior tanks now - if they are not in the oRA MT list they aren't considered tanks |
21:30.24 | NeoTron | pally / druid works (although admittedly pally I should check talents too - a holy pally might use righteous fury for the damage decrease w/o being a tank) |
21:30.45 | Dashkal | Official (blizzard) WotLK talent calcs are up: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/talent-index/wrath.html |
21:31.09 | NeoTron | wonder if this means they feel reasonbly final with talents or if they feel it's easy enough to change |
21:31.25 | NeoTron | aha they might be newer than beta |
21:32.00 | Arrowmaster | they posted TBC talents up in beta then changed them |
21:32.11 | NeoTron | improved soul leech will be hot |
21:32.18 | dibster | we are not using ora or mt targets at all :( |
21:32.28 | NeoTron | I'd imagine a 12k crit hit would be possible for example. that's 3.6k mana returned |
21:32.31 | NeoTron | woop |
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21:32.51 | NeoTron | dibster: I'll see if I can fix that bug tonight |
21:33.06 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how much the DS nerf is going to effect our damage output |
21:33.25 | Dashkal | NeoTron: for at least two classes (Hunter and Paladin) those are only first draft. I'll be surprised if the don't change. |
21:34.20 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I hoped not to have to get DS anymore |
21:34.33 | NeoTron | i.e I wish they made the imp a mobile totem, immune to indirect/aoe damage |
21:34.59 | NeoTron | if I still have to spec 0/21/50 I'll cry sad tears at Blizzards fail |
21:35.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah DS was too good |
21:35.29 | Hjalte | I agree with NeoTron |
21:35.52 | NeoTron | "We want Warlocks to gain benefit from using their pets in PvE, not destroying them for buffs. Demonic Sacrafice was originally created for situations where having a pet out wasn't as viable. Today, that situation is/should be coming less frequent. We realize that is because of issues with the pets (mana regeneration, some are too fragile, etc.) which are have/will be addressing." |
21:35.59 | Hjalte | They have to make sure the imp stays alive though |
21:36.06 | NeoTron | from Koraa on beta forums (class designer dev) |
21:37.03 | NeoTron | but hunter pets now get 75% aoe damage reduction, hunters have a non-channeled heal and all hunter pets have more health/armor than any warlock pet pretty much |
21:37.06 | Arrowmaster | DS was too good but but some of the other major bad things about warlocks countered it some but those seem to be getting addressed by talents |
21:37.17 | Arrowmaster | like our spells costing more mana than other classes |
21:37.36 | NeoTron | I really hope we'll see aff locks with fel hunters out, demo with felguard (but for the love of god make felguards better), destro with imps (firing bolts of doom) |
21:37.47 | NeoTron | Imp Soul Leech... |
21:37.51 | NeoTron | ./drool |
21:38.06 | Dashkal | the new mark of blood looks nifty |
21:38.09 | NeoTron | even today a normal shadow bolt would return 1600ish mana on a non-crit in a raid |
21:38.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah im hoping affliction with fel hunter makes the felhunter actually gain back more mana |
21:38.17 | NeoTron | yep |
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21:38.23 | NeoTron | I wonder what Expel Magic is |
21:38.31 | Arrowmaster | if it does then it fixes the problem with darkpact |
21:38.32 | NeoTron | sounds like he eats it and then, err, poops it out |
21:38.37 | Dashkal | The marked mob now heals its target for 2% of the target's max health on damage. Very nasty to anything with a fast attack speed (feral druids in PvP?) |
21:38.45 | Arrowmaster | because i have issues lifetaping in raids sometimes |
21:38.48 | Dashkal | Hope that has a hideen CD |
21:38.54 | NeoTron | yeah |
21:38.58 | profalbert | ckknight: ping |
21:39.02 | NeoTron | muru w/o a shadow priest is pretty iffy for example |
21:39.03 | ckknight | profalbert: pong |
21:39.06 | ckknight | what's up? |
21:39.15 | Arrowmaster | but other times its the best thing to do since ive got tons of hots on me or something |
21:39.19 | Neya | uhm, that official talentcalculator was kinda off, wrong number of points and they are wrong stats on the talents and so on ^^ |
21:39.24 | Arrowmaster | but lifetaping on kalec is bad for me |
21:39.31 | NeoTron | that too |
21:39.39 | NeoTron | although it got a lot better once they fixed revitalize |
21:39.54 | NeoTron | basically I taop on the inside, get revitalize and nuke without using mana for the most part |
21:40.06 | NeoTron | Neya: the official calculatur might be correct |
21:40.17 | NeoTron | like the page says - it might be more up to date than beta |
21:40.56 | Dashkal | Neya: at least for DK, those talents that are different look different from anything I've seen before. I'm guessing newer rather than older |
21:41.06 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78873 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
21:41.06 | CIA-45 | Fortress: |
21:41.06 | CIA-45 | - fix tooltips not working |
21:41.10 | Neya | I was mostly thinking of the fact that it states that all three tier1 restotalents for druids are 5 pointers. |
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21:44.18 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: i think they need to unnerf the spelldamage to pet spell damage some though |
21:46.24 | NeoTron | perhaps. I admit I ahven't tested imp damage since that nerf |
21:46.50 | Arrowmaster | well shadow bite does shadow damage |
21:47.12 | Arrowmaster | and as a melee attack i want to see that hit perty hard |
21:47.19 | Arrowmaster | vs firebolt |
21:49.02 | Neya | wtf, blizzards talents ofr the hunters are messed up, you can't take aimed shot if you have more than 1 of the 5 points in the talent required for aimed shot xD |
21:49.40 | Aiiane | can you take it if you have only 1? |
21:50.09 | Neya | aye. |
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21:56.20 | NeoTron | Neya: lol |
21:56.29 | NeoTron | Neya: mayne it's a bit buggy |
21:56.56 | NeoTron | you are indeed correct. |
21:57.04 | Neya | I considered that as the most probable reason aye. |
21:57.36 | NeoTron | so I wonder which tree will be the primary DK tanking tree |
21:58.04 | Aiiane | they're all tanking trees o.0 |
21:58.07 | profalbert | NeoTron: I just asked that myself... how do I spend my first 5 talent points |
21:58.09 | NeoTron | well one has to be better |
21:58.15 | NeoTron | heh |
21:58.18 | Aiiane | blood is single-target tanking, frost is aoe tanking, and unholy is spell tanking, iirc |
21:58.19 | Neya | haha |
21:58.22 | NeoTron | I guess it might depend on the role |
21:58.26 | NeoTron | curious |
21:58.32 | NeoTron | that's unique and fun I guess |
21:58.57 | Aiiane | so i suppose raid-wise, we might see a leaning towards unholy |
21:59.11 | Aiiane | since your tankadins would be aoe, and your druids would be single-target |
21:59.16 | NeoTron | I'm possibly going to go as our tank DK |
21:59.19 | Aiiane | (ah, warriors... :P) |
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21:59.40 | NeoTron | I'm our lock tank today, and have a prot pally I've tanked with |
21:59.48 | Aiiane | but who knows, blood might end up being better balanced |
21:59.56 | Aiiane | for general, all-purpose tanking |
21:59.59 | Aiiane | so people might like that |
22:00.05 | NeoTron | in addition I'm the GL, RL and have missed like 5-8 days of raiding since Karazhan. |
22:00.08 | Aiiane | in the end, hard to say until things are finalized |
22:00.14 | Dotted | Funkeh` ping |
22:00.23 | Funkeh` | no |
22:00.23 | Aiiane | I'm not the GL, but I'm a RL and have missed about as many ;) |
22:00.45 | Aiiane | Funkeh`, just use "gnop". |
22:00.56 | Aiiane | it's like pong, except not. and sounds a lot like no. |
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22:01.40 | NeoTron | baically I predict we'll lose maybe 5-6 people due to them not having a DK raiding spot |
22:01.48 | Aiiane | lol |
22:02.08 | FtH|Daemona | damn, i should have gone to WWI ... |
22:02.12 | NeoTron | and honestly leaders are prioritized. rogue CL is likely going DPS DK. I might (or not) go tank DKP and then we have one more random DPS DK and that's it |
22:02.28 | FtH|Daemona | ... i got holidays and i am bored |
22:02.39 | NeoTron | leaders are leader for a reason. like they are really good players, long term in the guild with good attendance :P |
22:02.41 | FtH|Daemona | and those who went to wwi got their keys already :/ |
22:02.41 | Aiiane | your healing lead should go DK as well. absolutely nothing could possibly go wrong with that plan. |
22:03.17 | NeoTron | heh |
22:03.18 | NeoTron | no |
22:03.21 | Aiiane | :P |
22:03.36 | NeoTron | we have 3 rogues. one going DKP and a shaman going rogue most likely |
22:03.41 | Dashkal | I'm thinking (especially if the dual-spec bit gets in) Blood/Raid DPS, and Magic tank (unholy?) |
22:03.49 | Aiiane | dkp? :P |
22:03.53 | Aiiane | deathknight plus? |
22:03.56 | NeoTron | yep |
22:04.03 | NeoTron | typo ftw |
22:04.21 | Aiiane | yeah, unholy seems to be spelltank tree Dashkal |
22:04.39 | Dashkal | but then tanking seems to be a trispec no matter what kind of tank you wanna be |
22:04.54 | Aiiane | pretty much, just where you focus |
22:05.01 | Dashkal | just lean more into unholy for spells (I wouldn't wanna spelltank without the spell deflection from blood) |
22:05.43 | NeoTron | I figured if I get into beta I'll look at it a bit closer |
22:05.50 | Primer | So, Warlocks, what do you think the grinding spec from 70-80 will be? |
22:05.51 | NeoTron | it's still in flux so not putting too much effort into it |
22:05.57 | NeoTron | affliction |
22:05.59 | NeoTron | always affliction |
22:06.07 | Primer | I agree |
22:06.09 | NeoTron | demo works too but with haunt affliction will be the bomb |
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22:06.17 | Primer | I'm liking the warlock talents |
22:06.29 | Primer | it seems that you just can't go wrong with any choices you make |
22:06.30 | NeoTron | yeah I like them now. used to be wtflol but it's much better |
22:06.49 | Aiiane | hmm... anyone know offhand what event would fire after an item has been validated on a tooltip SetHyperlink call? |
22:06.54 | Aiiane | pokes Arrowmaster |
22:07.01 | NeoTron | I do hope they fix it so haunt and UA get interrupt protection |
22:07.07 | Aiiane | OnTooltipSetItem doesn't appear to wait until validation |
22:07.15 | NeoTron | Aiiane: I don't think there's an event is there? |
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22:07.25 | NeoTron | In MagicDKP I just have a callout call |
22:07.41 | Aiiane | Blah. Guess I'll just check on a time delay then. |
22:07.48 | CIA-45 | 03Corveroth * r78874 10DrumCoord/ (. Core.lua): |
22:07.48 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
22:07.48 | CIA-45 | -Externals fix and cleanup |
22:07.48 | Primer | NeoTron: Is there some "default" set of marks one can import into MM? |
22:07.58 | Aiiane | MagicMarker_Data? |
22:08.02 | Aiiane | or does that not come with marks |
22:08.18 | Aiiane | I mean, technically everything comes with marks... all default to medium priority |
22:08.19 | NeoTron | set of marks no |
22:08.29 | NeoTron | MM_Data has instance / cc type stuff |
22:08.34 | Primer | I mean, I just want to be the leader, and hover over shit "out of the box" |
22:08.41 | NeoTron | I was going to add default set of marks that is more complete than just for the tank |
22:08.51 | Aiiane | you can do that out of the box, Primer |
22:08.52 | NeoTron | by defauly all it does is to mark stuff with tank targets |
22:08.58 | Aiiane | it just wont be all that intelligent with priorities |
22:09.11 | Primer | ok, that's what I'm after |
22:09.18 | Primer | out of the box intelligent marking |
22:09.20 | NeoTron | MM_Data should hoepfully add some priorites and stuff but it won't use crowd controlling |
22:09.31 | NeoTron | you can't just be "intelligent" without data though |
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22:09.55 | Primer | well, considering that most instances are well known |
22:10.05 | Primer | and that fights rarely, if ever, differ |
22:10.05 | NeoTron | someone needs to add the data |
22:10.13 | NeoTron | it can't just "know' taht stuff |
22:10.17 | Primer | so...give me your data! |
22:10.21 | NeoTron | that is the purpose of MM_Data though |
22:10.23 | Aiiane | and priorities vary from guild to guild |
22:10.41 | NeoTron | MM_Data is the "best" of what you're looking for |
22:11.08 | NeoTron | it's data from a third party project to create a MM database |
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22:11.38 | Primer | sounds like what I want, thanks |
22:12.07 | NeoTron | it imports the data once and it has quite a lot of instances of various completeness |
22:12.16 | Zhinjio | anyone out there an IT manager who looks at resumes alot? I'd like someone to look mine over and make sure I'm not making stupid mistakes. |
22:14.44 | Arrowmaster | Aiiane: not an event, the func in tooltip:SetScript("OnTooltipSetItem", function(tooltip) if tooltip:GetItem() then ... end end) gets called |
22:15.09 | Aiiane | that's what I meant, Arrowmaster |
22:15.12 | Primer | Zhinjio: I used to be one |
22:15.19 | Aiiane | when it gets called, the item hasn't been validated yet, I tried |
22:15.32 | Arrowmaster | it should get called again when it is validated |
22:15.39 | Aiiane | only got a single call :/ |
22:15.47 | Arrowmaster | thats why the if tooltip:GetItem() is there |
22:16.10 | Arrowmaster | no clue then |
22:16.21 | Aiiane | yeah... I tried it without even that, just a basic function that gave a debug output... it only gets called once |
22:16.42 | NeoTron | they just need a "PossiblyGetItemInfo" call instead of this stupid "setting a tooltip" crap |
22:16.56 | Aiiane | Indeed |
22:17.19 | Aiiane | or just something like ForceGetItemInfo |
22:17.28 | NeoTron | just hate that it disconnects you |
22:17.47 | NeoTron | if the item isn't cacheable I mean |
22:17.48 | Aiiane | I suppose that's to prevent people just spamming attempts to validate every single itemid |
22:18.34 | Aiiane | "sure, you can try, but it will take you a very, very long time" |
22:18.41 | NeoTron | right |
22:18.53 | NeoTron | it's pretty intentional |
22:19.01 | NeoTron | but it seems silly now with things liek wowdb or heck wowarmory |
22:19.34 | Polarina | There are some rules you can follow that can guarantee a item lookup won't disconnect you. |
22:19.57 | Aiiane | orly, Polarina? |
22:20.01 | Polarina | One of it is that it a item is sold by a vendor, it'll always be on the servers' cache. |
22:20.11 | Polarina | Such as reagents. |
22:20.39 | Polarina | Unless such a vendor is located in a instance. |
22:20.44 | NeoTron | sure but those aren't usually what you want to lookup :P |
22:21.21 | Aiiane | I'm more looking for something that given an arbitrary itemid, would tell you whether or not looking it up would result in a dc ;) |
22:21.26 | Aiiane | but I doubt such exists |
22:21.33 | NeoTron | yep |
22:21.36 | Aiiane | since it would defeat the point of the dc in the first place |
22:21.42 | NeoTron | I added conditional lookup in MDKP |
22:21.52 | Kody | We just announced another contest for authors: http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/12079/ |
22:21.54 | NeoTron | at first I had it automatic but realized soon that was a bad idea |
22:22.09 | Polarina | Kody: The beta key thing is not a contest. |
22:22.18 | Kody | Yeah good point :P |
22:23.03 | selckin1 | they disabled the dc for a few weeks a few months back |
22:23.23 | Polarina | Aiiane: Looking up a item that is not on the servers' cache won't disconnect you unless you spam such requests. |
22:23.41 | Aiiane | I know. |
22:23.55 | Aiiane | although it can be a bit finicky at times. |
22:24.04 | NeoTron | it's not "server cache" but "battlegroup cache" |
22:24.07 | NeoTron | actually |
22:24.20 | Aiiane | yeah, since /inspect works in battlegrounds |
22:24.27 | Aiiane | it'd be an issue if it were server-based |
22:24.32 | Polarina | NeoTron: Yes. |
22:24.34 | NeoTron | i.e we have Kil'jaeden items w/o anyu kills |
22:24.49 | Polarina | NeoTron: A battlegroup runs on a single server. |
22:25.03 | NeoTron | no |
22:25.04 | Polarina | NeoTron: Although possibly clustered, like some MySQL databases. :) |
22:25.08 | Aiiane | not exactly |
22:25.08 | NeoTron | but a battlegroup uses the same database |
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22:25.13 | Aiiane | it runs in a single server *farm* |
22:25.23 | NeoTron | multiple servers, one datasourse |
22:25.25 | NeoTron | datasource |
22:25.33 | NeoTron | which most likely is an oracle database |
22:29.01 | Xinhuan | time to read wowace forums ;p |
22:31.58 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert * r78875 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
22:31.58 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
22:31.58 | CIA-45 | - fix typo that prevented HoTs from showing |
22:35.18 | Zhinjio | Primer: fully compliant now, no more errors. Thanks again. |
22:35.47 | Primer | Zhinjio: my pleasure |
22:36.18 | Zhinjio | the CSS validates as well. Looking good. |
22:37.51 | Aiiane | html resume? :) |
22:40.03 | Zhinjio | yes. |
22:40.20 | Zhinjio | so much better than trying to send SXW files |
22:40.33 | Zhinjio | (application is for consulting position at SUN Micro) |
22:41.00 | Zhinjio | for a manager I used to work for there before. |
22:41.13 | Zhinjio | so its pretty much a lock, but I want things to be polished. |
22:42.30 | Xinhuan | hmm half an hour gone and i've only read 10% of my "unread posts since last visit" ~_~ |
22:42.48 | selckin1 | mark all as read is the best feature |
22:42.58 | Xinhuan | i dn't actually want to do that though ;p |
22:43.10 | selckin1 | i broke my chair :( |
22:46.51 | Zhinjio | alright!!! My table repair utility looks like its working perfectly |
22:46.55 | Zhinjio | now to really beat the shit out of it. |
22:48.15 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: my dining table could use some repair. how do I use it? ;-0 |
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22:49.40 | Zhinjio | just /skg repairlists!! whamo. fixed. |
22:49.43 | Zhinjio | grins. |
22:50.37 | Polarina | develops a Java interpreter in Lua. |
22:51.20 | Dashkal | Polarina: oh please? I'd love to code in java :p |
22:51.31 | Pneumatus | then develop a lua interpreter to run in the java interpreter |
22:51.37 | Pneumatus | for additional fun |
22:51.55 | Polarina | Dashkal: And it'll be JIT compiler. |
22:52.10 | Dashkal | The sad thing? I'd be all over such a project if it actually happened. |
22:52.53 | Pneumatus | classloot's java data grabber is the most horrible bit of java i've ever written... i really need to do something with it |
22:54.31 | VonhintenHOME` | I love how these multiboxing shaman claim their using multiple keyboards when clearly it's botting software, and blizzard still let's them get away with it |
22:54.36 | Gagorian | !ap 422 |
22:54.37 | Xinhuan | 422 rating gives 106(5s), 94(3s) and 81(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
22:54.38 | NeoTron | Polarina: are you serious or just pulling some legs? |
22:54.39 | Gagorian | !ar 422 |
22:54.47 | Gagorian | !points 422 |
22:54.48 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78876 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
22:54.48 | CIA-45 | Fortress: |
22:54.48 | CIA-45 | - tooltip tweak |
22:54.48 | Xinhuan | 422 arena points require 1567(5s), 1611(3s) and 1665(2s) team rating. |
22:54.59 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78877 10Broker_PvP/Broker_PvP.lua: Broker_PvP: use .tooltiptext |
22:55.25 | NeoTron | I know someone that made LPC (yes the language of LPMUD's) to LISP translator or something along those lines. it was.. bizarre |
22:55.28 | VonhintenHOME` | s/their/they're |
22:55.45 | Polarina | NeoTron: Serious. |
22:56.39 | Aiiane | bleh. .net 3.5 installer is being stupid. |
23:02.50 | NeoTron | Polarina: for use in WoW or something else? (because that's sort of scary) |
23:03.44 | Polarina | NeoTron: Both. |
23:03.55 | Polarina | NeoTron: Lua isn't restricted to WoW only. |
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23:12.21 | NeoTron | I know that |
23:13.33 | fewyn | owies :( a friend just showed me a SS of his UI http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/wordaen/vash_screenie.jpg |
23:14.03 | selckin1 | fail |
23:14.12 | CIA-45 | 03trasher * r78878 10SpellReminder/locale/frFR.lua: |
23:14.12 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
23:14.12 | CIA-45 | - frFR update |
23:14.13 | VonhintenHOME` | reminds me of the old blind person telephones with 2inch numbers |
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23:16.11 | Orionshock | good morning all |
23:17.00 | Xuerian | fewyn: Either the song current playing or my mind screamed "MAYDAY" when that loaded. |
23:17.14 | fewyn | xD |
23:17.15 | fewyn | yea |
23:17.23 | fewyn | it makes my eyes hurt |
23:18.10 | Xuerian | Step 1: Baggins/Combuctor/etc. Step 2: Spellbinder & oPie. |
23:18.44 | fewyn | yea he won't listen to me, i just wanted to see how his bars where setup |
23:19.33 | Xuerian | Aieh -_-; |
23:19.39 | Xuerian | I really don't want to know what raid time looks like |
23:20.25 | selckin1 | we started asking for ui screenshot in guild applications few months ago |
23:20.29 | selckin1 | showed some interesting stuff |
23:21.36 | Vulcanus | by "interesting" do you mean "cancer forming"? :p |
23:22.21 | fewyn | probably cancer forming |
23:24.14 | Paene | mmmm cancer |
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23:27.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+o kaelten] by ChanServ |
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23:31.29 | Paene | ping cladhaire |
23:33.10 | Paene | ~seen cladhaire |
23:33.12 | purl | cladhaire is currently on #wowprogramming (22h 21m 17s) #infobot (22h 21m 17s) #wowuidev (22h 21m 17s) #wowace (22h 21m 17s) #curseforge (22h 21m 17s). Has said a total of 62 messages. Is idling for 3h 22m, last said: 'thats what the first level warehouse gets you'. |
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23:36.11 | NivFreak | hrmm |
23:36.21 | NivFreak | does mobnotes have a browser interface? |
23:36.44 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: sorry I didn't get a release out last night. I just finished testing though |
23:36.52 | Zhinjio | should have it out the door within the next hour or so |
23:37.21 | NivFreak | I'd rather have stable than fast ;) |
23:37.26 | NivFreak | so no biggie |
23:39.42 | kaelten | #wowace-upgrade chat starts in 20 mins for those who are interested |
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23:40.18 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78879 10StatBlock_Combatlog/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
23:40.18 | CIA-45 | StatBlock_Combatlog: initial commit |
23:40.18 | CIA-45 | - StatBlockCore for en-/disabling your combatlog |
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23:44.09 | thul | ttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1216682818259.jpg |
23:44.25 | Zyndrome | better fix that url |
23:45.13 | Corveroth | Image is OLD |
23:45.54 | Xuerian | image won't even come up o_0 |
23:47.32 | Dashkal | I so should have known better... |
23:47.36 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r78880 10/branches/SKG/ (17 files in 2 dirs): |
23:47.36 | CIA-45 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
23:47.36 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
23:47.36 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
23:47.36 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
23:47.37 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
23:48.17 | Zhinjio | Jesus. I didn't realize the list was that long. |
23:48.22 | Zyndrome | x| |
23:48.29 | Zyndrome | http://www.ea.com/redalert/factions-empire.jsp?id=YurikoOmega <- wtf EA? |
23:48.57 | Dashkal | sighs |
23:49.04 | Dashkal | EA consumed westwood I take it? |
23:49.29 | Xuerian | 0_o |
23:49.30 | Xuerian | wtf? |
23:49.53 | Zyndrome | EA is The Blob of the gaming industry |
23:54.10 | [dRaCo] | is there an ETA for RA3? |