| 00:01.47 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:02.38 | _rane | who would want to play an incomplete game :p |
| 00:02.41 | Stanzilla | ~whalecrit Antiarc |
| 00:02.42 | purl | ACTION crits Antiarc with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Antiarc dies |
| 00:03.11 | Thrae | _rane: Wait, doesn't nearly everyone here play WoW? So aren't they ones who want to play an incomplete game? |
| 00:03.44 | _rane | incomplete game as in in beta |
| 00:04.52 | Thrae | "Beta" just means the developers aren't satisfied yet. There are plenty of games some developers would call "alpha" that are released into the public. |
| 00:05.07 | _rane | *sigh* |
| 00:05.14 | Thrae | Let's all sing something that rhymes with "Wage Of Bonan!" |
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| 00:06.37 | profalbert | grml... damn beta-servers are too busy for char-copy |
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| 00:07.18 | Xinhuan | is there only 1 beta server heh, or are there several |
| 00:07.28 | Antiarc | PVE and PVP |
| 00:07.52 | Thrae | "Everytime I equip two weapons at once, the game crashes" "Oh, that's just our reminder that you can enchant those weapons, but we haven't put in an in-game reminder dialog box yet" |
| 00:07.52 | Antiarc | HAHAH |
| 00:08.12 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 00:08.23 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_071908_170808.jpg |
| 00:09.14 | Thrae | "wageofbonan.exe - Error 144 - %s has leveled up! !!CUT!! This is not an error message, the player should never see this part." |
| 00:09.58 | Chompers | the shadows really are quite awesome |
| 00:10.19 | Antiarc | That's low quality, too |
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| 00:10.29 | Thrae | I love it when the dark spots on my screen are rendered better! |
| 00:10.30 | Xinhuan | i don't get it |
| 00:10.35 | Chompers | can you turn them up and take a pic? |
| 00:10.35 | Thrae | ...Oh wait, that's my hand. |
| 00:10.40 | Chompers | next to the flower npc |
| 00:11.42 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_071908_171128.jpg |
| 00:11.43 | Antiarc | err |
| 00:11.47 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_071908_171128.jpg |
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| 00:12.34 | ag` | so everybody got beta but me? |
| 00:12.35 | ag` | :P |
| 00:12.45 | Chompers | oh my, thank you |
| 00:13.19 | Chompers | looks like it's everything, not just players |
| 00:14.19 | ulic | ag': I think somehow they just stole are keys from us. |
| 00:14.24 | Xinhuan | that's pretty awesome shadows, but its only from 1 light source ;p |
| 00:14.26 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 00:14.28 | ulic | s/are/our |
| 00:14.32 | ulic | dang my english sucks today. |
| 00:14.33 | Antiarc | It casts shadows on all the world doodads |
| 00:14.40 | Antiarc | Slaughters my FPS though |
| 00:15.31 | Chompers | MOAR PICTURES |
| 00:15.57 | KriLL3 | it's a bit odd that blizz haven't responded to the "buff ferals, nerf restos" sentiment that's near universal, and no the beastcoil thing is the opposite... |
| 00:16.09 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_071908_170408.jpg |
| 00:16.38 | KriLL3 | I guess they don't want to change anything before WOTLK, just like TBC, biggest bait and switch ever... |
| 00:17.00 | Chompers | so those trees cast shadows too |
| 00:17.05 | Chompers | man that's fantastic |
| 00:17.08 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 00:17.19 | Antiarc | Anything that's not terrain basically |
| 00:17.25 | Chompers | it might actually look decent and not so shit |
| 00:17.42 | KriLL3 | wotlk is getting visual upgrades? |
| 00:17.44 | Xinhuan | does it cast the same shadows back in azeroth |
| 00:17.50 | Xinhuan | or is it just northend |
| 00:17.51 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 00:17.54 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: I don't think so |
| 00:17.55 | Antiarc | It's an engine upgrade |
| 00:18.05 | Antiarc | Optional, but works everywhere it seems |
| 00:18.06 | KriLL3 | blizzard got a horrible habit of baking shadows into textures |
| 00:18.16 | KriLL3 | most stuff in wow isn't lit at all |
| 00:18.35 | Chompers | imagine if they did a full engine upgrade |
| 00:18.37 | KriLL3 | I just wish they finally embraced bump mapping |
| 00:18.44 | Chompers | bump mapping and all that jazz |
| 00:18.54 | KriLL3 | pixel shaders, bump mapping... mm |
| 00:18.59 | Antiarc | baking shadows in is a great way to keep system reqs low |
| 00:19.14 | KriLL3 | like eve, 2 clients or an optional download with all the ++ visuals, so the slowpokes could still play the game np |
| 00:19.27 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: yes, but wow is old now and machines are faster |
| 00:19.36 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78758 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix from wowinterface comment by vishnou00 |
| 00:19.37 | KriLL3 | an option to make it proper shadowing would be nice |
| 00:20.01 | KriLL3 | I'm not saying replace the current visuals, I'm saying add more notches to the quality sliders :> |
| 00:20.11 | Antiarc | Well |
| 00:20.14 | Antiarc | The shadows are an option :P |
| 00:20.15 | Chompers | better animations and some physics for corpses too |
| 00:20.24 | KriLL3 | that range fog solid color mountain problem should be fixed also... |
| 00:20.30 | Chompers | imagine a DK corpse explosion with physics |
| 00:20.44 | KriLL3 | blood with physics! :D |
| 00:20.49 | Xinhuan | this isn't d3 ;p |
| 00:20.51 | KriLL3 | that leave marks on the ground |
| 00:21.00 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: I wish it was... |
| 00:21.07 | KriLL3 | visually I mean |
| 00:21.29 | KriLL3 | sad kitten is sad that turning people to pulp isn't possible |
| 00:21.38 | Xinhuan | engine upgrade is prob for the destructible buldings too |
| 00:22.06 | Chompers | yeah, otherwise you'd end up with static shadows left on the ground for buildings that no longer exist |
| 00:22.12 | Chompers | and that would be silly |
| 00:22.58 | KriLL3 | can't the buildings cast the same blob shadow players do? :) |
| 00:23.00 | KriLL3 | but square |
| 00:23.26 | KriLL3 | that blob shadow is pure murder to look at |
| 00:25.11 | KriLL3 | are feral druids even allowed into 5on5 arena teams? |
| 00:25.46 | Thrae | Yes, but only the ones that want to experiment or only play for fun. |
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| 00:26.18 | Xinhuan | just like how arcane mages are allowed, but its not going to get very far in the arena |
| 00:27.14 | KriLL3 | well arcane can respec frost in a split second and use the same gear... |
| 00:27.33 | Xinhuan | no they can't |
| 00:27.39 | Xinhuan | arcane spec mages go for int/spi |
| 00:27.48 | KriLL3 | so? |
| 00:27.55 | Xinhuan | i.e their gemming should be 8 int gems and 8 spi gems |
| 00:28.01 | Xinhuan | not 12 dmg gems |
| 00:28.15 | Thrae | I think WoTLK's addition of environmental effects can a.) help balance things out tremendously as skill becomes an increasing factor, or b) Blizzard will screw it up and the Arena will remain unchanged, possibly getting more cookie-cutter, or c) Everyone plays a Death Knight. |
| 00:28.28 | thul | DK ftw |
| 00:29.24 | raegx | How can I add a slash command to handle arbitrary input? I have been reading the api documentation and looking at other mods but I can't figure out what kind of option to use to allow users to do /myMod report UserName. I have tried type="input" but I can't seem to get the user name to be passed into my handler function. type="input" set=function( info, name) MyMod:Report(name) end |
| 00:29.34 | KriLL3 | It's horribly lame that the arena atm is all about class and spec combos, the right combo can take out 9/10 of the opposition while 2 friends with good gear and skill can't get anywhere if they're the wrong combo of specs |
| 00:29.48 | Thrae | I think the stupid people are the ones who boast about their ability to play it safe and win. "Woohoo, I just beat the guy wearing a tinfoil hat in nothing but my Mobile Gundam!" |
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| 00:32.24 | Xinhuan | time to buy more gigantique bags |
| 00:32.42 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, did they increase backpack size in wotlk? or more bank slots |
| 00:32.47 | Zhinjio | Heya Xinhuan |
| 00:33.09 | Thrae | WoTLK added a couple of features I suggested, cool |
| 00:33.11 | Xinhuan | hello |
| 00:33.22 | Saroz | WTB UI changelog for WOTLK |
| 00:33.24 | Antiarc | No, Xinhuan |
| 00:33.36 | Thrae | Antiarc: Do they have bags which make sense like Armour bags? |
| 00:33.50 | Xinhuan | or new bag types? |
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| 00:33.52 | Thrae | Armour/Gear bags |
| 00:34.07 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: what are your systems specs? (regarding shadows slaughtering your fps) |
| 00:35.06 | Antiarc | 3ghz core 2 duo, 8800GT |
| 00:35.13 | Antiarc | settings 1-4 are fine |
| 00:35.16 | Xinhuan | how is it "slaughtering"? |
| 00:35.25 | Antiarc | Drops me from 70 FPS to 20 FPS |
| 00:35.32 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 00:35.33 | syeren | Are you talking about WoW? |
| 00:35.37 | syeren | With the AoE Bug? |
| 00:35.38 | Antiarc | That's at 1920x1200 though |
| 00:35.38 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 00:35.39 | Antiarc | No |
| 00:35.41 | Antiarc | Shadows |
| 00:35.42 | Antiarc | In WotLK |
| 00:35.45 | syeren | AoE thing is fucking annoying :< |
| 00:35.47 | Xinhuan | is that 19" wide |
| 00:35.51 | raegx | if i want to have users be able to use a slash command to pass in an arbitrary user name, i should use an option type of input right? I.E> type="input" ? |
| 00:35.52 | Antiarc | 24" wide |
| 00:35.56 | Xinhuan | O_O |
| 00:36.31 | Stanzilla | same here :D |
| 00:37.27 | Thrae | Antiarc: That could be driver related -- much of the work to improve how an engine interacts with a driver cannot be done until the game is officially released (so the code is at least stable) |
| 00:37.35 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 00:37.47 | Antiarc | It looks fine at 4 for me |
| 00:37.55 | Antiarc | So I don't mind it |
| 00:38.51 | Thrae | ATI would probably win over Nvidia if the game doesn't conform to common DirectX standards in its shading, as ATI cards usually have far more shader bandwidth. It just happens in most games already released, the Nvidia drivers are optimized and the ATI drivers suck. |
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| 00:39.12 | Saroz | dont see that many changes for 3.0 |
| 00:39.13 | Saroz | sux |
| 00:41.09 | ckknight | http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ |
| 00:42.46 | Saroz | wut |
| 00:47.05 | Chompers | ckk |
| 00:47.11 | ckknight | chompers |
| 00:47.15 | Chompers | i am a developer, i forgot to mention that |
| 00:47.23 | Chompers | i make uh |
| 00:47.35 | Saroz | and a lier |
| 00:47.36 | Chompers | pitbull, yeah |
| 00:47.39 | Hjalte | makes the same as Chompers |
| 00:47.39 | Chompers | wait...FUCK |
| 00:47.55 | Saroz | liar? |
| 00:48.10 | Saroz | wtf I cant spell |
| 00:48.13 | Saroz | gn |
| 00:48.14 | raegx | ....is options type "text" only for Ace2 and not in Ace3? |
| 00:48.15 | Chompers | i'm totally a lier, not a liar though |
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| 00:50.02 | raegx | ..hm. Hi? |
| 00:50.30 | raegx | =( |
| 00:52.20 | raegx | well...if anyone who knows about using Ace's slash command handling gets a chance, I asked two questions about it above..I've been banging my head against tutorials, the api documentation, and looking at other mods for awhile. Any help is appreciated |
| 00:53.42 | ckknight | Ace2 or Ace3? |
| 00:53.53 | raegx | Ace3 is what I am currently using |
| 00:55.01 | CIA-45 | 03sayclub * r78759 10PhatLoot/ (PhatLoot.toc locales/koKR.lua): PhatLoot: koKR added |
| 00:55.26 | ckknight | I can't tell you about Ace3, I don't use it |
| 00:55.40 | raegx | I'm guessing in Ace2 it would be type="text" =( |
| 00:56.21 | ckknight | ~seen ProfAlbert |
| 00:56.27 | purl | profalbert <n=profalbe@91-113-28-10.adsl.highway.telekom.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 49m 50s ago, saying: 'grml... damn beta-servers are too busy for char-copy'. |
| 00:56.39 | Chompers | ooh, he got a key too |
| 00:56.42 | Chompers | that's good to know |
| 00:56.49 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:56.52 | ckknight | I was gonna give him one |
| 00:56.58 | ckknight | since he maintains Parrot |
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| 00:57.31 | ckknight | now that's unnecessary, which simplifies things |
| 00:59.38 | Chompers | any sign of the threat meter blizzard talked about? |
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| 01:02.30 | CIA-45 | 03ananhaid * r78760 10sRaidFrames/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:02.30 | CIA-45 | sRaidFrames: |
| 01:02.30 | CIA-45 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 01:02.31 | CIA-45 | - deDE/frFR/koKR not translated. |
| 01:03.40 | Antiarc | No sign on the blizzard threat meter yet, no |
| 01:05.04 | KriLL3 | I wish it's API is open so omen etc could use it |
| 01:05.17 | Antiarc | That'd make my life easier :D |
| 01:05.30 | KriLL3 | so you can have a better looking one etc that works for everyone |
| 01:05.31 | Antiarc | But I really really really doubt it |
| 01:05.38 | KriLL3 | I hate having random DPS classes that doesn't have omen installed and overnuke every encounter |
| 01:06.01 | KriLL3 | warlocks and shadow priests mostly it seems |
| 01:06.49 | Thrae | KriLL3: "I hate it when people are idiots and need a suped-up threat meter to do their job." |
| 01:07.10 | Ellipsis | there is no such thing as overnuking |
| 01:07.26 | Ellipsis | tanks need to l2notsuck |
| 01:07.30 | Thrae | I think Blizzard making their own threat meter is good -- it allows them to find the balance between too much information and too difficult instances. |
| 01:07.41 | KriLL3 | Thrae: I didn't say that |
| 01:07.51 | Killmore | anyone saw batman in theater yet ? |
| 01:07.53 | Thrae | KriLL3: Never said you did. |
| 01:08.04 | KriLL3 | I said I hope blizz makes their own so everyone has it by default |
| 01:08.06 | Thrae | Killmore: Waiting for the 26th when I see it on IMAX. |
| 01:08.15 | KriLL3 | just said I'd like it to be open so we can make it look nice |
| 01:08.15 | Xinhuan | so ckknight, if i don't have any addons hosted on curse, i'm not eligible for that contest? |
| 01:08.30 | Thrae | KriLL3: You mean skinnable. Making it open is different. |
| 01:08.37 | ckknight | Xinhuan: sadly, no |
| 01:08.47 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I believe wowi has a similar thing, though |
| 01:08.48 | KriLL3 | well if the calls are open you can make an addon that looks any way you want |
| 01:08.49 | Xinhuan | what if i uploaded one now? |
| 01:08.55 | ckknight | Xinhuan: then you'd be eligible |
| 01:09.03 | Xinhuan | would that be sorta cheapskate? heh |
| 01:09.16 | Diao | lol |
| 01:09.23 | Thrae | uploads an addon which says "Hello World!" that requires WotLK leaked API |
| 01:09.26 | ckknight | it sure would! |
| 01:09.36 | ckknight | have fun, you crazy kids |
| 01:09.48 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 01:09.55 | ckknight | well, just remember that it has to work with WoW 2.4.3 |
| 01:09.57 | Diao | who cares if it's cheap, just do it! |
| 01:10.13 | ckknight | granted, I believe DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Hello, World!") would work, as long as you get the toc right as well |
| 01:10.15 | Thrae | If it doesn't work, then it's beta! |
| 01:10.26 | Xinhuan | all my addons (all 9 of them!) work in 2.4.3 ;p |
| 01:10.41 | Ellipsis | wait, so curse allows hello world? |
| 01:10.49 | Ellipsis | goes to upload |
| 01:10.53 | ckknight | I'll probably deny the project, so you know |
| 01:11.04 | ckknight | upload on curseforge, btw |
| 01:11.07 | Ellipsis | aww, even for me? |
| 01:11.12 | ckknight | sadly, yes |
| 01:11.16 | ckknight | make something productive. |
| 01:11.21 | Ellipsis | can I upload fido? |
| 01:11.34 | Ellipsis | even though it's pretty much useless but that's your fault? :P |
| 01:12.37 | Antiarc | Killmore: I saw it |
| 01:12.38 | ckknight | how is that my fault? |
| 01:12.39 | Antiarc | It's awesome. |
| 01:12.43 | Ellipsis | unitexists fix :P |
| 01:12.49 | ckknight | you fix it |
| 01:12.53 | Xinhuan | i don't think any of my addons broke in any way since 2.4.0 so they all technically work in 2.4.3 |
| 01:12.54 | Ellipsis | hmph |
| 01:14.01 | Xinhuan | p.s. ravenholdt rep is BORING to farm |
| 01:14.31 | KriLL3 | why would you? |
| 01:14.33 | Diao | how do you farm it Xinhuan as a non-rogue |
| 01:14.42 | KriLL3 | some mobs in the area |
| 01:14.45 | KriLL3 | give 5 I think |
| 01:14.45 | Xinhuan | because its my 37th-to-be exalted faction |
| 01:14.51 | Xinhuan | nope, they all give 1 per kill |
| 01:14.58 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 01:14.58 | Diao | oh |
| 01:15.00 | Xinhuan | i tell myself, just 1% a day, 420 mobs |
| 01:15.07 | KriLL3 | I did the same thing with skyguard |
| 01:15.17 | KriLL3 | but they give 10 and there are 2 daily |
| 01:15.24 | Xinhuan | so uh i'm on my 11th day |
| 01:15.34 | KriLL3 | I felt like jumping off something |
| 01:16.12 | Xinhuan | so i was "afk" to chat here |
| 01:16.16 | Xinhuan | and some rogue decided to jump me |
| 01:16.18 | Xinhuan | i killed him |
| 01:16.20 | Xinhuan | twice |
| 01:16.27 | Xinhuan | then he returned with 3 70 friends |
| 01:16.32 | Xinhuan | i'm like lololol |
| 01:16.43 | fewyn | ponders names for his ravager |
| 01:16.52 | Diao | lol |
| 01:16.55 | Diao | bad gankers |
| 01:16.59 | ckknight | fewyn: Mr. Snuggles |
| 01:17.00 | Diao | that always annoys me |
| 01:17.42 | fewyn | xD |
| 01:17.49 | fewyn | my cat is named Snuggles |
| 01:17.57 | Xinhuan | call it Snuffles then |
| 01:18.08 | Thrae | I think my baby brother wears your cat as a diaper. |
| 01:18.59 | Thrae | Cats are not "Snuggly". They are either "sharp and scratchy" or "pathetic". |
| 01:19.04 | Stanzilla | farming cenarion circle atm...very boring |
| 01:19.25 | Xinhuan | make sure you summon those templar stuff too |
| 01:19.32 | fewyn | why are you farming cenarion circle? |
| 01:19.33 | Xinhuan | and aq20 |
| 01:19.54 | Stanzilla | just for the looks of my reputation window |
| 01:19.57 | fewyn | ah |
| 01:19.59 | fewyn | i did that |
| 01:20.10 | fewyn | but i did it pre-bc |
| 01:20.11 | Xinhuan | i bought 6 gigantique bags, +24 slots bag space wooot! |
| 01:20.11 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: yeah I only do the small ones.. |
| 01:20.54 | Thrae | You know you've played too much WoW when you want your reputation window to look "filled out" so farm random factions you don't necessarily care about. |
| 01:21.37 | Xinhuan | just hit 566 days /played |
| 01:21.37 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 01:21.40 | Diao | 6? |
| 01:21.41 | fewyn | xD |
| 01:21.43 | Diao | you only have 4 bag slots! |
| 01:21.48 | Diao | unless your bank is that full o_O |
| 01:21.57 | fewyn | that's real dedication Xinhuan |
| 01:22.02 | Xinhuan | well +4 slots per bag |
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| 01:22.05 | Xinhuan | i was using all 18s |
| 01:22.07 | fewyn | i'm only up to about 300 days played across 4 characters |
| 01:22.07 | Neya | A full bank is standard today Diao ;) |
| 01:22.16 | Diao | oh |
| 01:22.19 | Diao | i have full bank bags |
| 01:22.22 | Diao | but my bank is nowhere near full |
| 01:22.25 | Thrae | 21:22 < fewyn> that's addiction Xinhuan <-- typo, fixed |
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| 01:22.36 | fewyn | =p |
| 01:23.12 | fewyn | You know I must be really bored if I'm leveling my hunter |
| 01:23.26 | Neya | 4 slots in my bank that aren't occupied by soulbound items... |
| 01:23.56 | Neya | but well, it could've been worse, happy enough pots are'nt soulbound too. |
| 01:23.57 | Thrae | "Here, have some cheese! It's BOUND TO YOUR SOUL!" |
| 01:24.09 | Thrae | Mmmm...soulcheese. |
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| 01:30.22 | sacarasc | anyone know a good +sd amount for a high end raiding lock? |
| 01:31.19 | fewyn | high end? what is your definition of high end? |
| 01:31.23 | CIA-45 | 03Corveroth * r78761 10DrumCoord/Core.lua: |
| 01:31.23 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
| 01:31.23 | CIA-45 | -Minor fix; don't announce non-existent drummers |
| 01:31.38 | sacarasc | SWP |
| 01:31.43 | sacarasc | finishing it |
| 01:32.15 | fewyn | Personally I'm a shadow priest, thinking about 1300-1400 |
| 01:32.29 | fewyn | I'm good for BT and I have about 1200 |
| 01:32.56 | sacarasc | seen one with 1500ish shadow damage, was just wondering if it was particularly high or not |
| 01:33.03 | fewyn | my personal opinion, milage may vary by location |
| 01:33.16 | fewyn | full raid buffed 1500 sounds about right |
| 01:33.31 | fewyn | haven't taken a look at lock gear in awhile tho |
| 01:33.38 | Ellipsis | spell damage doesn't increase too terribly much past mid-level raiding |
| 01:33.48 | fewyn | yea |
| 01:33.50 | Ellipsis | it's more crit/sta scaling at that point |
| 01:33.50 | fewyn | it doesn't |
| 01:34.27 | sacarasc | http://a.imouto.org/boon/wotlk-beta/WoWScrnShot_071808_210919.jpg was the ss I saw... can't see the gear though, heh |
| 01:34.37 | fewyn | haste is good too |
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| 01:35.17 | Antiarc | Someone get a beta key and fix ace3 for me |
| 01:35.19 | Antiarc | so I don't have to |
| 01:35.27 | Xinhuan | its broken? |
| 01:35.32 | Ellipsis | sacarasc: that's demonology with the new wotlk talents |
| 01:35.35 | fewyn | ok get one for me then and i'll do it |
| 01:35.37 | sacarasc | ah |
| 01:35.39 | fewyn | after learning lua that is |
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| 01:35.45 | sacarasc | thanks Ellipsis |
| 01:35.48 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 01:35.48 | Stanzilla | I'm a shadow priest and have ~1540 shadowdmg raidbuffed |
| 01:35.51 | Antiarc | It's all borkified |
| 01:35.53 | Xinhuan | what's broken? |
| 01:36.03 | fewyn | nice Stanzilla |
| 01:36.07 | Antiarc | Lemme see |
| 01:36.14 | fewyn | sadly all my spriest upgrades don't come until T6 |
| 01:36.28 | Stanzilla | t6 is awesome |
| 01:36.39 | fewyn | which is why my spriest is shelved and i MT/OT on my druid |
| 01:36.43 | Xinhuan | fixing ace3 for wotlk would probably be a priority so that i can port my addons to wotlk status ;p |
| 01:37.54 | fewyn | i'd really love to get it on my spriest Stanzilla but sadly no one wants a spriest geared enough for the content they mostly want people overgeared for the content |
| 01:37.59 | kaiden | Can anyone give me an opinion on a spec for leveling as a "restokin" along with a friend who's playing a warrior? |
| 01:38.01 | kaiden | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0xcrzfIsMuZZxtIzcq |
| 01:38.07 | Stanzilla | fewyn: yeah :/ |
| 01:38.29 | fewyn | i even transfered my spriest off my server in hopes of him raiding with a certain guild but got shafted and wasted the 25$ |
| 01:38.34 | fewyn | still bitter about that |
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| 01:38.58 | Stanzilla | oh :( |
| 01:39.46 | Fisker- | ~kiss Antiarc |
| 01:39.46 | purl | ACTION forces Antiarc to give Bruners a big kiss on the lips |
| 01:40.10 | fewyn | "oh yea we're changing our raid times back 3 hours, you'll be a perfect addition for us" made the perfect raid times then they scrapped the idea 2 days after i transfered and joined |
| 01:41.16 | sacarasc | i kinda wanna transfer and raid again, but i'd miss raiding with my current (kinda dead for raids) guild |
| 01:41.40 | kaiden | fewyn, i'd cram my foot up their ya know |
| 01:41.40 | kaiden | :P |
| 01:42.05 | fewyn | 12:30am is not a good raid start time, 3 hours earlier was but i got shafted |
| 01:42.31 | Bruners | *blush* Antiarc |
| 01:42.55 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 01:42.56 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Zeksie a big kiss on the hand |
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| 01:44.00 | Antiarc | A lot of the font stuff seems to have changed |
| 01:44.11 | Antiarc | AceGUI doesn't work - attempt to call SetTextFontObject (nil value) |
| 01:44.13 | Antiarc | for example |
| 01:44.14 | Xinhuan | so Antiarc, its just the acegui stuff? |
| 01:44.20 | Antiarc | so far |
| 01:44.24 | Antiarc | There was a gsub error somewhere too |
| 01:44.25 | Xinhuan | the rest should be working |
| 01:44.26 | Antiarc | trying to reproduce it |
| 01:45.08 | Xinhuan | i mean if everything except acegui works, that's pretty good |
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| 01:50.56 | Antiarc | Is there a resource extractor for WotLK yet, or so I need to dig out my MPQ tools? |
| 01:51.03 | Antiarc | For the UI stuff |
| 01:52.17 | Xinhuan | i use MyWarcraftStudio to extract |
| 01:52.25 | Xinhuan | has not failed me over 2 years |
| 01:53.47 | Nargiddley | hmm, guess I need to get a beta key if AceGUI is having probs :/ |
| 01:54.04 | Antiarc | which mpq are they usually in? |
| 01:54.21 | Xinhuan | usually in locale-enus.mpq |
| 01:54.29 | Antiarc | hm |
| 01:54.33 | Antiarc | nothing in lichking-locale-enUS.mpq |
| 01:54.39 | Xinhuan | or in patch.mpq |
| 01:54.42 | Xinhuan | if one exists |
| 01:54.47 | Xinhuan | and then in patch2.mpq |
| 01:55.20 | Xinhuan | basically, the files with "enUS" in it |
| 01:55.44 | Xinhuan | if a file exists in both, patch2 > patch > locale in terms of file overriding |
| 01:56.18 | CIA-45 | 03sayclub * r78762 10sRaidFrames/locales/koKR.lua: sRaidFrames: koKR update |
| 01:56.24 | Xinhuan | i mean the "locale-enus.mpq", i don't mean the one with the lich-king prefix |
| 01:56.43 | Xinhuan | or the "expansion" prefix |
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| 02:03.32 | Antiarc | meh |
| 02:03.41 | Antiarc | I just renamed my wotlk folder and used the addon kit |
| 02:03.45 | Antiarc | Worked well enough :P |
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| 02:14.28 | CIA-45 | panda: 03Tekkub 07master * rc4c5372 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match t he updated spec |
| 02:15.09 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r7c11bc9 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match the updated spec |
| 02:15.51 | CIA-45 | stealyourcarbon: 03Tekkub 07master * r10aa7d1 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match the updated spec |
| 02:16.38 | CIA-45 | squeenix: 03Tekkub 07master * rd641fa8 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match the updated spec |
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| 02:17.42 | CIA-45 | makerocketgonow: 03Tekkub 07master * r6a47f1d 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match the updated spec, also use new spec |
| 02:19.31 | CIA-45 | controlfreak: 03Tekkub 07master * r044419a 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match the updated spec |
| 02:20.05 | CIA-45 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r5c02891 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match the updated spec |
| 02:20.37 | CIA-45 | blipstick: 03Tekkub 07master * r13ac6b3 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match the updated spec |
| 02:20.54 | CIA-45 | amp: 03Tekkub 07master * ra6250ce 10/: Tweak launcher declaration to match the updated spec |
| 02:21.52 | raegx | =( wow doesn't let us use os.time() ? |
| 02:22.14 | Shirik | time() |
| 02:22.18 | ckknight | raegx: just time() |
| 02:22.42 | ckknight | also, there's GetTime(), which has millisecond precision (basically seconds since WoW opened or something) |
| 02:23.12 | raegx | phew, that makes this easier |
| 02:31.40 | Arrowmaster | GetTime() isnt good if you want the actual time though |
| 02:32.36 | Gnarfoz | <@ckknight> http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ <-- any info on when the first keys for that might go out? ;) |
| 02:32.51 | ckknight | Kody-: ^--- ? |
| 02:33.06 | Gnarfoz | <Xinhuan> just hit 566 days /played <-- might I interest you in vhaarr's wonderful "LifePercent" addon? ;D |
| 02:33.24 | Xinhuan | its 44.2% |
| 02:33.26 | Xinhuan | if you care |
| 02:33.32 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan has spent more of his life WoWing than sleeping |
| 02:34.18 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: damnit why do you people discriminate again those that dont work mostly on any one single project |
| 02:34.33 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 02:34.45 | ckknight | as far as I know, the rules come from Blizz |
| 02:34.48 | ckknight | not positive |
| 02:34.49 | Ellipsis | keys are per-project, so I would assume working on more individual projects actually increases your chance of getting a key |
| 02:35.12 | kenlyric | hey, I have a project! |
| 02:35.12 | Arrowmaster | only if you are the primary author of each one |
| 02:35.15 | Ellipsis | no |
| 02:35.27 | ckknight | I have lots of projects |
| 02:35.29 | Ellipsis | if the primary author already has one or doesn't want it, they can choose to give it to someone else on the project |
| 02:35.54 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: I figure that's the "since release" part of the time LifePercent displays, isn't it, Xinhuan? ^^ (if not, I'm rather disturbed ^^) |
| 02:36.02 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: I don't think so... |
| 02:36.06 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan's about as hardcore as they come |
| 02:36.11 | Gnarfoz | I'm not tooooo sure either |
| 02:36.21 | Corv | Mmm, I screwed up something on my second commit... what's "<!-- Removed by files.wowace.com for no-ext zip. -->" mean? |
| 02:36.28 | Corv | (in embeds.xml) |
| 02:36.30 | Gnarfoz | Corv: that's fine |
| 02:36.37 | Ellipsis | Corv: it means your'e downloading the no-ext of your addon, nothing's wrong :P |
| 02:36.39 | Gnarfoz | you're just looking at the wrong file |
| 02:36.53 | Corv | Ah.... /facepalm |
| 02:36.58 | Gnarfoz | that's for updaters that manage dependencies on their own |
| 02:37.06 | Corv | Makes sense, gotcha =) |
| 02:37.08 | Gnarfoz | you want the one that's named just like the addon itself |
| 02:37.18 | Arrowmaster | wowi was going to manually add people to the list that help on lots of projects but not enough to be listed as an author on each i think |
| 02:38.20 | Gnarfoz | that's nice... |
| 02:38.25 | Gnarfoz | and a lot of work, I guess |
| 02:38.32 | Gnarfoz | (which makes it even nicer ^^) |
| 02:38.44 | Arrowmaster | well theres not really that many people that do that |
| 02:38.50 | Arrowmaster | just mostly those of us on irc |
| 02:38.53 | Xinhuan | i hope wowi recognizes me ^^ |
| 02:38.56 | kaiden | has wowi done their first batch of invites yet? |
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| 02:39.24 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: you've got plenty of addons that'd qualify on their own - none of them on release pages? |
| 02:39.37 | Xinhuan | i only have Gemhelper and Bankitems on wowi |
| 02:39.41 | Xinhuan | didn't upload any of the rest |
| 02:39.51 | Ellipsis | those are still non-trivial and current, no reason you wouldn't be eligible |
| 02:40.13 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: thats enough, i cant even click the button on wowi because im not marked as an addon author |
| 02:40.18 | Gnarfoz | i'd certainly say so, BankItems alone is made of win ;) |
| 02:40.22 | Xinhuan | technically, routes and gathermate has got 0 updates since 2.3.2 ;p |
| 02:40.28 | Xinhuan | or about 6 months ago |
| 02:40.37 | Xinhuan | apart from a toc bump |
| 02:40.48 | kaiden | i dont think its' about that |
| 02:40.52 | Gnarfoz | if it still works, that's all they need, I guess |
| 02:40.52 | Xinhuan | or maybe that's 4 months ago |
| 02:40.52 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 02:40.53 | kaiden | i think it's about whether or not they work |
| 02:41.09 | Xinhuan | time to sleep, i've got a bbq to attend later hehe |
| 02:41.19 | Gnarfoz | have fun |
| 02:41.40 | Xinhuan | attending the bbq means missing out on twins attempts :( |
| 02:41.45 | Xinhuan | gotta beat nevcairiel to it |
| 02:43.21 | Kody- | ckknight: It's up to Blizzard when they go out, but I'm assuming shortly after we provide the list |
| 02:43.28 | Kody- | Since they want authors in the beta :) |
| 02:43.33 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:43.40 | Kody- | It's per-author, btw... not per-project |
| 02:44.05 | Arrowmaster | Kody-: so does blizzard actually require info on the authors projects? |
| 02:44.34 | Kody- | Well |
| 02:44.47 | Kody- | They're putting some trust in us to make sure valid authors get invites |
| 02:44.52 | Kody- | So that's why I want a list of projects |
| 02:45.05 | Arrowmaster | do you seriously need a list of projects from me? |
| 02:45.47 | Kody- | I'd prefer it (you don't have to list all of them), mostly in case they request it after the fact |
| 02:45.58 | Kody- | But yeah, I know who you are :P |
| 02:46.30 | Arrowmaster | k, i dont think im actually credited in anything though |
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| 02:49.52 | Neya | heh, if it weren't for the fact that my only addon isn't on wowi I would have used that signup button :P |
| 02:51.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah none of my addons are on wowi because really they arent worth it |
| 02:51.31 | Arrowmaster | or curse |
| 02:52.05 | Xinhuan | i just figured out why i never uploaded routes or gathermate on wowi... i didn't want to type an addon description! |
| 02:52.14 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:52.16 | fewyn|clone | xD |
| 02:52.17 | Neya | haha |
| 02:52.30 | Xinhuan | and it takes too much effort to make a couple of screenshots |
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| 02:52.38 | Neya | took me a week to write mine, and it is still a bad description xD |
| 02:52.40 | Xinhuan | oh well, i'll do it tonight |
| 02:53.28 | Arrowmaster | you already have working addons posted on wowi though |
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| 02:54.00 | Xinhuan | it might be embarassing, but the only reason why i uploaded addons on wowi was because users on ui.worldofwar.net asked me to ;d |
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| 02:54.11 | Gnarfoz | pff took me some hours probably, but just because I was on the phone, eating, surfing, chatting and whatnot at the same time. your addons are probably a bit more complex, though ;) |
| 02:54.45 | Xinhuan | damn, my friend's AOC account expired, so i can't play it |
| 02:54.59 | Xinhuan | he's not renewing it cos its crap (and it is crap) |
| 02:55.25 | Neya | seems I was lucky that the local stores had it sold out the one time I asked for it. |
| 02:55.41 | Xinhuan | the local stores here still have CE version on sale |
| 02:55.52 | Arrowmaster | i lol'd at AoC |
| 02:55.56 | Neya | hah |
| 02:56.06 | Xinhuan | but hey at least i can say "i've played it" |
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| 02:56.21 | Arrowmaster | i never even thought it looked interesting so i never even kept up on the info about it |
| 02:56.39 | fewyn | going to kill my grandfather, he let the dog back in which went right back to messing with my router |
| 02:56.59 | Ackis | so these achievements... what's the point of them? do you get points or something? |
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| 02:57.06 | Neya | haha |
| 02:57.27 | fewyn | Ackis: no |
| 02:57.30 | fewyn | they stole it from xbox |
| 02:57.42 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i dont know, if they dont end up showing on the armory or something they wont be worth it |
| 02:57.45 | fewyn | they are just epeen waving things |
| 02:57.59 | Arrowmaster | hard to be for epeen if you cant show them off |
| 02:58.15 | fewyn | yea |
| 02:58.16 | Ackis | well I saw in screenshots you getting points for getting them |
| 02:58.18 | fewyn | well if you can show them |
| 02:58.20 | Xinhuan | i bet you wowarmory will show achievements |
| 02:58.30 | Xinhuan | i mean, it already shows (useless) reps and skills |
| 02:58.43 | fewyn | HYDRAXIAN WATERLORDS! |
| 02:58.47 | Neya | I somehow hope it won't |
| 02:58.48 | Arrowmaster | but arent they going to be per account and not per char? |
| 02:59.03 | Xinhuan | blues posted it won't be retroactive |
| 02:59.06 | Neya | that is something I also wonder, if they are per account or per character. |
| 02:59.09 | fewyn | i think they are per character |
| 02:59.13 | Xinhuan | so, some of my achievements in the past |
| 02:59.15 | Xinhuan | will be kinda meh |
| 02:59.16 | Arrowmaster | per char sucks |
| 02:59.25 | fewyn | i don't know for sure yet though |
| 02:59.27 | fewyn | not in beta |
| 02:59.32 | Xinhuan | like i've got 114k honor kills |
| 02:59.41 | Arrowmaster | if it is per char its shit |
| 02:59.44 | Xinhuan | but they won't get credited for the achievements stuff |
| 03:00.02 | fewyn | maybe some of it will be retro active? |
| 03:00.06 | Neya | I won't even hit halfway to the honorable kills achivement :P (and that's on my whole account) |
| 03:00.09 | Xinhuan | i doubt honor kills will be |
| 03:00.19 | fewyn | like X hks |
| 03:00.20 | Xinhuan | unless they kept the kill/death log of everybody |
| 03:00.29 | fewyn | they keep the number of hks |
| 03:00.33 | Xinhuan | the achievements for kill/deaths broke it down to like separate BGs |
| 03:01.00 | Arrowmaster | they probably wont be retroactive due to character transfers |
| 03:01.12 | Xinhuan | and i'm just going to l-o-l at the kill 1 million tuskarr thing |
| 03:01.22 | Xinhuan | even if you kill 1000 a day, yuo'll need 1000 days (3 years) |
| 03:01.23 | fewyn | i'll totally do it! |
| 03:01.35 | fewyn | maybe they will have tiny hp? |
| 03:01.50 | Arrowmaster | think thats killing blows? |
| 03:01.54 | Arrowmaster | if not aoe |
| 03:02.07 | fewyn | get a big group together? |
| 03:02.08 | Xinhuan | ok lets say you can kill 1-per-10sec, that's 6 per min, you need 166 minutes to kill 1000 |
| 03:02.10 | fewyn | and AOEEEEEEE |
| 03:02.10 | Neya | aoegrinding with a lowlevel friend as bait |
| 03:02.11 | Ackis | Wand Specialization (Discipline) has been removed. <-- ok I'm leaving the game! :P |
| 03:02.17 | fewyn | what |
| 03:02.20 | Xinhuan | so you up to farming 3 hours for 3 years daily? |
| 03:02.21 | fewyn | wand spec is gone? |
| 03:02.23 | fewyn | WHAT? |
| 03:02.37 | Xinhuan | ackis, where did you cut that from |
| 03:02.41 | fewyn | yea |
| 03:02.43 | Arrowmaster | patch notes |
| 03:02.43 | Ackis | mmo-champ |
| 03:02.45 | fewyn | where'd that come from? |
| 03:02.51 | Stanzilla | it |
| 03:02.52 | Ackis | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/ssAchievements5.jpg if you look you get 10 for tha one |
| 03:02.53 | fewyn | what did they replace it with? |
| 03:02.53 | Stanzilla | s true |
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| 03:03.18 | fewyn | where am i going to put my first 5 disc talents then?! |
| 03:03.54 | Xinhuan | wow SW has a harbour now |
| 03:04.00 | fewyn | oh nvm |
| 03:04.08 | fewyn | twin disciplines |
| 03:04.09 | Stanzilla | fewyn: teh spelldmg talent |
| 03:04.12 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 03:04.14 | fewyn | totally going there |
| 03:04.55 | fewyn | yea Xinhuan it does |
| 03:05.07 | Xinhuan | its gonna "suck" that the old classic wow boss kills achievements aren't retroactive |
| 03:05.25 | fewyn | i'll totally go solo it |
| 03:05.31 | Arrowmaster | do they have rep achievements? |
| 03:05.33 | Xinhuan | i mean, if you have cthun ring, it should be enough to prove i've killed him without having to go back and kill him again! |
| 03:06.04 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=777 |
| 03:06.07 | Neya | one is number of factions at exalted Arrowmaster. |
| 03:06.08 | Xinhuan | check the "rep" tab |
| 03:06.26 | Arrowmaster | because if theres a hydraxian waterlords exalted one and its not retroactive fuck them |
| 03:06.37 | Arrowmaster | not grinding another char to exalted |
| 03:07.09 | Xinhuan | i'll prob have everything full on that one ^^ |
| 03:07.25 | Arrowmaster | so that page isnt working |
| 03:07.50 | Xinhuan | it works for me |
| 03:07.51 | Arrowmaster | ah had to allow yahooapis in noscript |
| 03:08.09 | Arrowmaster | wtf 40? |
| 03:08.14 | Arrowmaster | theres 40 reps? |
| 03:08.20 | Xinhuan | there will be, in wotlk |
| 03:08.31 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: There's more than 40 now |
| 03:08.31 | Arrowmaster | oh wait i think im close to 30 anyway |
| 03:08.38 | Xinhuan | there's like 38 you can get exalted with right now, out of 40 or so |
| 03:08.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah i should go darkiron mining |
| 03:09.04 | Xinhuan | i just buy them on ah |
| 03:09.07 | Xinhuan | 5g a stack, easy |
| 03:09.09 | Ackis | work on ravenholdt imo |
| 03:09.15 | Xinhuan | i am ackis |
| 03:09.17 | Xinhuan | 1% a day |
| 03:09.21 | Ackis | hah |
| 03:09.29 | Arrowmaster | nah sindicate |
| 03:10.27 | kenlyric | how do you compare to falk? |
| 03:10.31 | fewyn | still can't believe this is my first time in mana-tombs |
| 03:10.40 | Arrowmaster | 'Collect 25 unique vanity pets' |
| 03:10.49 | Arrowmaster | bah ill have to go buy the vendor ones |
| 03:11.18 | Arrowmaster | ive got almost all the special event ones except the recent firefestival one |
| 03:11.31 | Arrowmaster | nobody fucking wanted to do it |
| 03:11.58 | Ackis | are they having special pet bags or something? or a pet key chain? |
| 03:12.37 | Arrowmaster | 'Earn exalted reputation with 5 home cities' |
| 03:12.42 | Arrowmaster | theres only 4? |
| 03:12.51 | Arrowmaster | or does shat count? |
| 03:12.52 | kenlyric | lol |
| 03:13.07 | Arrowmaster | or darlan? |
| 03:13.13 | kenlyric | 5 home reps they mean |
| 03:13.13 | fewyn | 5 probably because of a new home city? |
| 03:13.32 | kaiden | is it just me or is it silly that omen of clarity doesn't trigger on casts as well so that it is beneficial to moonkins / resto druids also |
| 03:13.36 | Arrowmaster | so 5th is either shatt or darlan |
| 03:13.46 | kenlyric | no |
| 03:13.53 | Xinhuan | there are 5? |
| 03:13.55 | fewyn | doesn't ooc proc on casts? |
| 03:13.57 | Xinhuan | one for each race Arrowmaster |
| 03:13.58 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.06 | Zyndrome | I'm sure I saw an achievement for number of trinkets somewhere :S |
| 03:14.11 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: no? |
| 03:14.11 | kaiden | fewyn, no it only procs on physical attacks |
| 03:14.21 | Neya | oom only procs on physical hits fewyn. |
| 03:14.30 | fewyn | org, trolls, undead, tauren, blood elf |
| 03:14.30 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: only 4 cities though |
| 03:14.35 | Xinhuan | gnomeregan/ironforge is 2 ;p |
| 03:15.19 | Xinhuan | ok i really should go to sleep, cya |
| 03:15.22 | fewyn | i never noticed Neya =p never taken it unless i was feral tank |
| 03:17.38 | Arrowmaster | 'Discover an Elegant Dress by opening brightly colored eggs during the Noble Garden celebration' |
| 03:17.41 | Neya | there is no point taking it for anything but a feral anyway. |
| 03:17.42 | fewyn | mana tombs is an interesting instance |
| 03:17.42 | Arrowmaster | seriously.... |
| 03:17.50 | fewyn | haha |
| 03:17.59 | fewyn | i have an elegant dress on my male tauren druid |
| 03:18.00 | Arrowmaster | i have one of those dresses, took me the entire fucking day |
| 03:18.09 | fewyn | same |
| 03:18.12 | Arrowmaster | not wanting to do that again |
| 03:18.38 | Arrowmaster | 'Throw a snowball at Thrall and Jaina' |
| 03:18.47 | Arrowmaster | thrall and jaina? hyjal better count |
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| 03:19.24 | Arrowmaster | heh 'Acquire Egbert's Egg, Sleepy Willy, and Elekk Training Collar on one character' ill have that next year, ofcourse that better be retroactive |
| 03:19.33 | fewyn | hehe |
| 03:19.35 | fewyn | 3 years |
| 03:19.37 | fewyn | yea |
| 03:19.42 | fewyn | i only have willy |
| 03:19.44 | fewyn | :( |
| 03:19.47 | Arrowmaster | 3 years since tbc |
| 03:20.25 | fewyn | yea |
| 03:20.31 | Neya | there is one for hawing CE of the individual releases too, isn't it? |
| 03:20.38 | fewyn | yep |
| 03:20.49 | Arrowmaster | thats stupid |
| 03:20.54 | fewyn | i hope there is a CE of wotlk |
| 03:20.59 | fewyn | and it better be a penguin |
| 03:21.13 | Arrowmaster | wow ce is really rare |
| 03:21.19 | Neya | there is an achivement for it, so there probably will be a ce |
| 03:21.30 | Arrowmaster | original wow ce that is |
| 03:21.37 | Neya | love my mini diablo ^^ |
| 03:22.19 | Neya | those pets are really rare nowdays, I havn't seen anyone using them over a year now. |
| 03:22.32 | Arrowmaster | because people dont have them |
| 03:23.20 | Arrowmaster | you know i really liked how guildwars did its key system, all the special keys were extra and you could add them in later if you got ahold of one |
| 03:23.49 | Arrowmaster | no way to get an original wow CE account without finding an unused key then making a new account |
| 03:23.56 | Ackis | lol breanni from warcraftpets gets a npc named after her |
| 03:24.15 | Arrowmaster | and even then only new characters made on that account get it, not characters transfered to it |
| 03:24.26 | Diao | i thought you could get those pets still |
| 03:24.29 | Diao | from blizz gms |
| 03:24.33 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:24.33 | Neya | you can |
| 03:24.38 | Diao | pretty sure you can |
| 03:24.42 | Diao | my friend got offered a custom mini-pet |
| 03:24.49 | Arrowmaster | if your account is marked as a CE? |
| 03:24.51 | Diao | after his account got "hacked" |
| 03:24.54 | Diao | and they restored it |
| 03:24.57 | Diao | and it wasn't a CE account |
| 03:25.02 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
| 03:25.05 | Pkekyo| | ~date |
| 03:25.06 | purl | It is now 2008.07.20 3:25:06 GMT |
| 03:25.06 | Neya | they are allowed to resend the mail to you if you havn't done the quest and your account is marked as ce yes. |
| 03:25.08 | Diao | they offered it as compensation |
| 03:25.14 | Diao | lol |
| 03:25.32 | Arrowmaster | too bad finding a ce account is impossible |
| 03:25.45 | Arrowmaster | and then you would have to find another tbc ce too |
| 03:25.51 | Arrowmaster | er key not account |
| 03:25.53 | Diao | but yeah, you can get some pretty unique stuff by having things happen to your account and needing gms to take care of it |
| 03:26.02 | Neya | I've made the misstake of forgetting to take that mail on an alt once, remeberd it about 4 months after the character was created. |
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| 03:26.46 | Neya | Arrowmaster, I think they can simply mark your current account as ce somehow. Partly why they changed the way you get the pets. |
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| 03:27.14 | Arrowmaster | well i want my account marked as an original ce damnit |
| 03:27.31 | Diao | lol |
| 03:27.37 | Neya | I want the bc-ce box :( |
| 03:27.54 | Arrowmaster | have it |
| 03:28.02 | kaiden | ce's are so overrate imo, i have the bc ce and i never use that whelpling |
| 03:28.15 | Ackis | I use the BC CE mousepad |
| 03:28.18 | fewyn | i just want it for the extras that come in the box |
| 03:28.25 | fewyn | not the pet specifically |
| 03:28.39 | fewyn | i got screwed out of my CE |
| 03:28.46 | Neya | I had preordered it, the store said I'd get it, then they didn't get more than 5 boxes in total, so I was left without. |
| 03:28.50 | Arrowmaster | heh i use an original ratpadz mousepad thats probably 10 years old |
| 03:28.54 | fewyn | i swear i preordered it but i seem to had only preordered the normal copy |
| 03:29.00 | fewyn | i saw a sad panda |
| 03:29.02 | fewyn | was* |
| 03:29.39 | fewyn | i'm a good customer with the new local gamestop so i should get it fine this time around |
| 03:30.30 | Arrowmaster | i hate my local eb games and went like 40 minutes away to another eb games to get tbc |
| 03:30.36 | Diao | i got my CE from amazon.com |
| 03:30.38 | Arrowmaster | ill probably just preorder from bestbuy |
| 03:30.41 | Diao | got 2 extra to |
| 03:30.42 | Diao | too* |
| 03:30.47 | Diao | for my friends who didn't have credit cards |
| 03:31.07 | Arrowmaster | ive been preordering from bestbuy lately online and just getting instore pickup |
| 03:31.39 | Ackis | is wotlk pre-order out yet? |
| 03:31.45 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:31.57 | Arrowmaster | although youll only get the normal one |
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| 03:31.59 | Neya | I don't trust the swedish mail delivery system enough to order games... |
| 03:32.05 | Ackis | get anything special for pre-ordering like the other games now a days? |
| 03:32.11 | Arrowmaster | since blizzard hasnt annouced a ce yet |
| 03:32.11 | ccKep | wosh. |
| 03:32.22 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: no because its not an official preorder |
| 03:32.31 | Ackis | ahh |
| 03:32.42 | Zyndrome | Neya , heh I pre-ordered TBC from webhallen and I got it the next morning when it was released |
| 03:32.50 | Neya | Both times I've ordered books from Amazon the Swedish Post lost my package. |
| 03:32.51 | Arrowmaster | perty sure you can goto gamestop and preorder DNF |
| 03:33.28 | Neya | once of all the times I've had mail delivered to me I've gotten the package in the said time :P |
| 03:33.52 | Pkekyo| | is there really a point going to bed when coming home at 05.30? |
| 03:34.03 | Neya | not really no. |
| 03:34.53 | Diao | depends on when you have to wake up the next day |
| 03:36.34 | ckknight | http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf |
| 03:36.44 | Zyndrome | how is babby formed? |
| 03:36.46 | fewyn | i'd never trust preordering online |
| 03:37.07 | Diao | as long as it's from a well known company i don't mind |
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| 03:40.08 | daemoen | hey guys, my fiance somehow shrunk her chatterbox to really small... how do you resize it? |
| 03:40.15 | daemoen | it doesnt seem to drag and size that i can find |
| 03:40.34 | fewyn | delete the chatter.lua in savedvariables? |
| 03:40.42 | Pkekyo| | Diao: not ever, really |
| 03:40.56 | fewyn | or type /chatter |
| 03:40.59 | fewyn | and goto profiles |
| 03:41.04 | fewyn | and click reset? |
| 03:41.05 | Diao | oh |
| 03:41.12 | fewyn | maybe? |
| 03:41.13 | fewyn | no wait |
| 03:41.23 | Diao | by chatterbox do you mean the blizzard chat frame |
| 03:41.36 | Diao | because that would be very different, from say, the chatter mod |
| 03:41.39 | fewyn | layout-cache.txt |
| 03:41.41 | fewyn | i think |
| 03:42.23 | fewyn | under the character name |
| 03:43.47 | VonhintenHOME` | Wow, someone royally fucked up ItemRack |
| 03:44.03 | VonhintenHOME` | It lost every single set I had in the latest version |
| 03:44.08 | VonhintenHOME` | That developer should be fucking shot |
| 03:44.28 | |Yssaril| | anyone here know where to find documentation for LibSink-2.0? |
| 03:44.39 | daemoen | Diao: the actual chatter addon |
| 03:44.47 | daemoen | she resized the window, and no idea how, lol |
| 03:44.51 | Diao | o_O |
| 03:44.52 | Antiarc | VonhintenHOME`: You should ask for your money back |
| 03:45.07 | Diao | there's a new version of itemrack out? |
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| 03:45.30 | VonhintenHOME` | Not this conversation again... |
| 03:45.38 | VonhintenHOME` | about "entitlement" |
| 03:45.40 | Arrowmaster | VonhintenHOME`: which itemrack? |
| 03:45.56 | Arrowmaster | since there were quite a few fan updates of the 2.x series for a while |
| 03:45.56 | VonhintenHOME` | 2.23 |
| 03:46.07 | Arrowmaster | 2.23 works fine for me |
| 03:46.10 | Arrowmaster | upgraded fine |
| 03:46.16 | Arrowmaster | or were you using 1.x before? |
| 03:46.20 | VonhintenHOME` | yes |
| 03:46.29 | Arrowmaster | umm quit bitching? |
| 03:46.33 | kenlyric | lol |
| 03:46.41 | kenlyric | failboat to failtrain city |
| 03:46.45 | Arrowmaster | saved var formats dont magicly work between rewrites |
| 03:47.12 | VonhintenHOME` | Are you saying there was no way for them to retain my data? |
| 03:47.16 | VonhintenHOME` | Is that what you're saying? |
| 03:47.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:47.24 | Zyndrome | *cough* BaudGear |
| 03:47.25 | Arrowmaster | since 1.x was fucking old |
| 03:47.41 | VonhintenHOME` | Forget how old it was, are you really saying there was no way to retain my data? |
| 03:47.42 | Arrowmaster | it might have retained it if you had switched to 2.x back when it came out |
| 03:47.47 | Diao | yep |
| 03:47.55 | Diao | i switched to 2.x as soon as it was out and had no issues whatsoever |
| 03:48.03 | Arrowmaster | but you know theres a limit to how long you keep legacy code in |
| 03:48.10 | Diao | i've never heard of any mods reading old savedvars when being rewritten from scratch |
| 03:48.12 | VonhintenHOME` | lol... |
| 03:48.24 | VonhintenHOME` | God some of you guys live in developmental lala land I swear |
| 03:48.31 | Arrowmaster | no you do |
| 03:48.59 | Neya | it's simple, if you don't like the addon, then don't use it. |
| 03:49.02 | Arrowmaster | its a lot safer to just forget the old data on a new major version |
| 03:49.14 | Antiarc | I repeat: This is an outrage and you should ask for your money back. |
| 03:49.34 | VonhintenHOME` | I did absolutely nothing wrong... I pulled fresh code fairly often from jwowupdate, itemrack simply had no updates for a long time |
| 03:49.46 | Nechckn | Antiarc LOL |
| 03:49.54 | Arrowmaster | lol you should have checked then |
| 03:49.56 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: itemrack... as you mean ItemCrap? |
| 03:50.01 | NeoTron | that thing has sucked for a year |
| 03:50.07 | NeoTron | at least |
| 03:50.07 | Arrowmaster | itemrack 1.x is over a year old i think |
| 03:50.23 | kd3 | <3 ir 2 |
| 03:50.24 | NivFreak | uggg |
| 03:50.26 | Arrowmaster | and never really worked well with wow 2.0 |
| 03:50.27 | NivFreak | no more files? |
| 03:50.29 | NivFreak | that fucking sucks |
| 03:50.29 | VonhintenHOME` | Antiarc, you know, the whole entitlement arguement is really pointless when we're in here talking about how a developer fucking fails at the very principals of support |
| 03:50.39 | Nechckn | VonhintenHOME` it's not that you did anything "wrong" it's just that whoever maintains it decided to not support legacy data. I'm sure there's no malice intended. |
| 03:50.51 | NivFreak | the curse client has no mac version... |
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| 03:51.27 | kaiden- | oh man.. that was classic right there |
| 03:51.47 | kaiden- | went to check out vongo.com because a friend told me about it.. clicked the "View how good the videos look on Vongo" |
| 03:51.50 | VonhintenHOME` | And I repeat, the problem with you guys is that you don't realize that you have a client base, even if they're not paying for it. You act like a bunch of people in acadamia, rather than the reality that real people actually use your shit |
| 03:51.54 | kaiden- | 3 seconds played then *bam* computer bluescreened |
| 03:52.09 | Arrowmaster | VonhintenHOME`: umm itemrack ISNT FROM WOWACE |
| 03:52.16 | VonhintenHOME` | It doesn't matter |
| 03:52.21 | Neya | VonhintenHOME: Where is it stated that we have to even have "support" on the addon we write? |
| 03:52.24 | Arrowmaster | and JWU ISNT FROM WOWACE |
| 03:52.45 | kaiden- | VonhintenHOME`, you are being stupid.. please stop |
| 03:52.58 | Arrowmaster | and youve been using the same version of an outdated mod and bitch when you finally update the new version thats been out for a year |
| 03:53.28 | Nechckn | At least there is still a version you can use, with the current patch. If the old one worked, just restore your backup and move on. No reason to yell at folks who have nothing to do with it. |
| 03:53.31 | Arrowmaster | you expect the legacy code to import old data to stay around a year after its out? |
| 03:53.34 | VonhintenHOME` | If it's been out for a year, it wasn't updated on curse, because jwowupdater didn't pick it up until recently |
| 03:53.50 | VonhintenHOME` | So that argument is bunk |
| 03:53.50 | Arrowmaster | you expect everybody to post on curse? |
| 03:53.54 | Arrowmaster | its your problem |
| 03:53.57 | Diao | itemrack 2 was listed under a different mod |
| 03:54.03 | Diao | the author had it as a dev branch |
| 03:54.03 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that adds the required rating to item tooltips? |
| 03:54.09 | Arrowmaster | it still is afaik |
| 03:54.10 | Diao | required rating? |
| 03:54.11 | Nechckn | Find the author and let them know how you feel, there is nothing anyone here can do for you. |
| 03:54.15 | Antiarc | VonhintenHOME`: You're welcome to write your own. |
| 03:54.18 | KriLL3 | Diao: arena rating |
| 03:54.21 | Diao | nah Arrowmaster, on wowi at least he merged it into the original itemrack upload |
| 03:54.26 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, so someone checked in 2.0 over the old 1.x item rack, and it's MY PROBLEM |
| 03:54.40 | Diao | well 1.x was deprecated |
| 03:54.40 | fathom | Sounds like your problem to me. |
| 03:54.43 | Diao | so there's no reason to keep it around |
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| 03:55.01 | Arrowmaster | yes you should have switched to 2.x like the rest of us a year ago when 1.x broke |
| 03:55.12 | Arrowmaster | instead of continuing to use the bandaid fixes to 1.x |
| 03:55.16 | VonhintenHOME` | I had no idea there was a new version |
| 03:55.22 | Antiarc | Or just use ClosetGnome, which has no problems :V |
| 03:55.26 | kaiden- | VonhintenHOME`, your ineptitude isn't our problem |
| 03:55.30 | fathom | ClosetGnome is nice. |
| 03:55.35 | VonhintenHOME` | kaiden, kiss my ass |
| 03:55.45 | kaiden- | No thank you :) |
| 03:55.46 | Zyndrome | you : http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/91/55/23335591.jpg |
| 03:55.49 | Nechckn | That's all well and good- just remember this is like going to the Microsoft site and complaining about Lotus Notes |
| 03:55.59 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: that is until the Ace3 rewrite! |
| 03:56.06 | Nechckn | or vice versa.. no one here has anything to do with your issue. |
| 03:56.23 | fathom | haha Zyndrome |
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| 03:56.43 | Kaelten | wtf, I walked in on the middle of something fucked up |
| 03:56.51 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: mark me as omen dev on curse so i can bug kody until i get my key |
| 03:56.56 | Antiarc | kk |
| 03:56.59 | Nechckn | 2nd time today, too, Kaelten =) |
| 03:57.06 | Kaelten | :P |
| 03:57.14 | Arrowmaster | i should find the link for the client too |
| 03:57.22 | Kaelten | curse client? |
| 03:57.30 | Arrowmaster | no wotlk |
| 03:57.33 | Kaelten | ah |
| 03:57.34 | NivFreak | I think I'm going to do what I can to stop using as many addons as possible |
| 03:57.36 | Nechckn | The poor fella updated to a new version of a mod that did not support the import of his old data. |
| 03:57.41 | NivFreak | I foresee serious usably issues for me in the future |
| 03:57.43 | Aiiane | http://213.251.185.206/WotLK-Beta-3.0.1-enUS/ |
| 03:57.57 | NivFreak | Kaelten: you should REALLY consider pushing a mac beta build out before you trash files |
| 03:57.58 | Aiiane | or for torrent http://wotlkwiki.info/WotLK-Beta-3.0.1-enUS-downloader.torrent |
| 03:58.01 | NivFreak | s |
| 03:58.01 | NivFreak | seriously screwing us |
| 03:58.04 | Nechckn | but then he came here looking to yell at... someone. ;-) |
| 03:58.08 | Kaelten | NivFreak: oh there will be |
| 03:58.12 | Kaelten | read my latest post |
| 03:58.15 | NivFreak | I did |
| 03:58.24 | VonhintenHOME` | I came here because a lot of you are guilty of the same ignorance of support |
| 03:58.32 | fathom | ... |
| 03:58.33 | Aiiane | or http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/beta-downloader-enUS.html for the downloader if you dont want direct-download |
| 03:58.36 | Nechckn | Pardon me? |
| 03:58.41 | Aiiane | change to enGB for euro |
| 03:58.43 | fathom | You realize that the addons you use are provided free of charge, right? |
| 03:58.47 | Aiiane | or pc -> mac for mac versions |
| 03:58.47 | Kaelten | NivFreak: one thing a lot of people don't know about me is that I'm a mac user ;) |
| 03:58.52 | NivFreak | Kaelten: "end of the beta process" doesn't mean anything to me in terms of timeline |
| 03:58.56 | VonhintenHOME` | "It's my mod, I can change it if I want to. Fuck the user if it breaks, they can get their money back" |
| 03:58.58 | Neya | VonhintenHOME: if you want support, then pay for it. |
| 03:59.11 | Nechckn | VonhintenHOME` I tried to help you... pointed you to your backup, et cetera. Otherwise there is nothing to be done. |
| 03:59.34 | Kaelten | NivFreak: ah, well WAU won't be discontinued until after the new CC is out of beta |
| 03:59.52 | NivFreak | I don't give a damn about WAU :P |
| 04:00.05 | NivFreak | but as soon as files stops getting updated |
| 04:00.07 | NivFreak | poof |
| 04:00.09 | NivFreak | JWU breaks |
| 04:00.25 | Kaelten | right, but JWU and the others will still have feeds as well, as long as WAU does |
| 04:00.44 | NivFreak | yea |
| 04:00.59 | NivFreak | so the curse client is going to be pay? |
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| 04:01.31 | Arrowmaster | where did you hear that? |
| 04:01.52 | Kody- | [21:00] <NivFreak> so the curse client is going to be pay? -- nope |
| 04:01.58 | NivFreak | There will be a update mode for free users as well. You can however expect that people willing to shell out a few bucks a month fo premium will get an eaisier experiance. |
| 04:02.08 | NivFreak | quoted from kaelten |
| 04:02.56 | Kaelten | right there will be both, but it'll be functional for those who chose not to. |
| 04:03.08 | NivFreak | the functional difference being what? |
| 04:03.49 | NivFreak | see, while I don't mind shelling out a few bucks for something, the major problems is, there are 100 people for every me that will refuse to |
| 04:03.55 | NivFreak | and I have plenty of those in guild |
| 04:04.12 | NivFreak | and I look forward to the horror that is a non-functional updater |
| 04:04.14 | NivFreak | that is what most of my raid force is using |
| 04:04.19 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 04:04.21 | Kaelten | I hear ya |
| 04:04.29 | NivFreak | because they can't/won't pay anything more than $15 a month |
| 04:04.37 | NivFreak | we deal with people in all walks of life |
| 04:04.46 | Kaelten | oh ya, tell me about it |
| 04:04.48 | NivFreak | from developers, to house wives, to college kids |
| 04:04.58 | Kaelten | all of this will be taken differently by different peole |
| 04:05.29 | Kaelten | Mainly they'll have to click and update things manually (from within the client) instead of a one click and be done. |
| 04:05.42 | Kaelten | and they'll have to see an ad in the client |
| 04:05.57 | Diao | the first is worse than the second :P |
| 04:05.57 | NivFreak | ads, while I find them obnoxious, I can tolerate |
| 04:06.02 | NivFreak | crippleware is disgusting |
| 04:06.03 | Diao | especially if you use many addons |
| 04:06.09 | NivFreak | correct |
| 04:06.15 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: free client is 1 click to update each mod? |
| 04:06.15 | Pkekyo| | wtf, five hours from hong kong to korea? |
| 04:06.22 | Diao | airplane flight? |
| 04:06.23 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 04:06.24 | Diao | sounds about right |
| 04:06.34 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r78763 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua: |
| 04:06.34 | CIA-45 | MiniPet: |
| 04:06.34 | CIA-45 | - Fixed so doesn't give warning when die & release |
| 04:06.34 | Pkekyo| | Diao: UPS express package |
| 04:06.39 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: does it atleast like sort updates to the top or something? |
| 04:06.40 | Diao | oh |
| 04:06.46 | Diao | that's correct, yeah since the flight is about 5 hours |
| 04:06.56 | Pkekyo| | dude...asia can't be THAT big? :P |
| 04:06.58 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: not currently, but no reason why it can't. |
| 04:07.06 | Diao | lol |
| 04:07.16 | NivFreak | anyway, I can't even look at the curse updater to complain yet |
| 04:07.16 | Pkekyo| | I want my package :< |
| 04:07.17 | Arrowmaster | if it atleast did that i dont think people would have much problems with it |
| 04:07.19 | NivFreak | without a mac version |
| 04:07.52 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Added |
| 04:07.58 | Diao | leaving aside the fact that asia has the largest land mass ;p |
| 04:08.15 | Pkekyo| | shush, Diao, I want my package :p |
| 04:08.27 | Pkekyo| | also, wouldn't it be faster to fly east? |
| 04:08.34 | Kaelten | NivFreak: there will be a mac version :P |
| 04:08.37 | Pkekyo| | no, don't want my shit to go through the states... west ftw! :p |
| 04:08.41 | Diao | where was the package originating |
| 04:08.43 | Diao | and ending? |
| 04:08.44 | NivFreak | Kaelten: is curse going to be agressivly trying to break 3rd party updaters? |
| 04:08.49 | Pkekyo| | Hong Kong --> Norway |
| 04:08.55 | NivFreak | aka wowmatrix |
| 04:08.56 | Diao | oh |
| 04:08.58 | NivFreak | jwu |
| 04:08.59 | NivFreak | etc |
| 04:09.05 | Kaelten | NivFreak: Well wowmatrix uses wowace's feed |
| 04:09.14 | NivFreak | amongst others |
| 04:09.20 | NivFreak | wowace isn't all it does |
| 04:09.31 | Arrowmaster | can you identify wowmatrix from other clients? |
| 04:09.34 | Kaelten | and as of right now the new data service api is going to be closed off to the outside world. |
| 04:09.35 | Arrowmaster | if so break it pls |
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| 04:09.55 | Aiiane | so basically, "yes" |
| 04:09.57 | Pkekyo| | took it one day to get from the UPS hub where it was handed in, got tagged as recieved at the korean UPS hub at 5.25 AM local time :< |
| 04:10.02 | Kaelten | and frankly wowmatrix is something I don't like. They wrote it to make money on other peoples dimes |
| 04:10.12 | Arrowmaster | like i said |
| 04:10.17 | Arrowmaster | break it pls |
| 04:10.22 | NivFreak | Kaelten: it was just one example |
| 04:10.42 | NivFreak | in general I think what you're going to do, is reduce you audience |
| 04:10.45 | NivFreak | you're going to lose support |
| 04:10.57 | NivFreak | wowace grew huge because it was simple |
| 04:10.58 | NivFreak | and free |
| 04:11.01 | Kaelten | I don't expect a cat and mouse game with screen scrapers. |
| 04:11.20 | NivFreak | many many people use ace addons that are inferior, because they are simple to update |
| 04:11.31 | NivFreak | and of course cost isn't even a variable |
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| 04:11.37 | Kaelten | NivFreak: unfortunately it was only free for the users. I know the bandwith bills, its not as simple as some people in wowinsiders comments think |
| 04:11.53 | NivFreak | Kaelten: I'm well aware of the operational costs |
| 04:11.59 | NivFreak | and your situation |
| 04:12.03 | Kaelten | 800 mbit/s isn't cheap |
| 04:12.04 | NivFreak | but the move is pretty drastic |
| 04:12.13 | Arrowmaster | im all for driving people away from shitty addons hosted on wowace |
| 04:12.16 | NivFreak | that depends on where you get it from :) |
| 04:12.29 | NivFreak | is bandwidth your major concern? |
| 04:12.30 | Kaelten | a major concern |
| 04:12.39 | Arrowmaster | 30 TB a month is a lot |
| 04:12.41 | NivFreak | because bandwidth is a solvable problem |
| 04:12.46 | NivFreak | not really |
| 04:12.51 | Kaelten | one other huge factor for me personally is being able to invest time and energy into fixing things. |
| 04:12.58 | Pkekyo| | huh...I got accepted into a university thingie... |
| 04:12.58 | Pkekyo| | can't remember wth I applied for though :P |
| 04:13.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah the svn is too big |
| 04:13.12 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: how much diskspace does the repo take up? |
| 04:13.20 | Kaelten | few gigs |
| 04:13.26 | Arrowmaster | how few |
| 04:13.27 | Kaelten | not too much really, not as much as you'd think |
| 04:13.53 | Arrowmaster | i want a reference to use against mozillas 13 gigs |
| 04:14.09 | Kaelten | they have a lot more media files than we do |
| 04:14.11 | NivFreak | svn isn't very intense for storage in the scheme of things |
| 04:14.18 | Kaelten | the scary thing about ours is that its mostly code |
| 04:14.23 | NivFreak | and storage is cheap enough |
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| 04:14.36 | Kaelten | ya disk space isn't the huge issue. |
| 04:14.42 | Kaelten | a few 500GB drives are cheap |
| 04:14.55 | NivFreak | <-- works for a storage vendor ;) |
| 04:14.58 | Pkekyo| | ohlol, I applied for a bachelor in information management o.O' |
| 04:15.04 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: remember the time before SharedMedia and only SurfaceLib/SharedMediaLib |
| 04:15.20 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: what kinda storage vendor? |
| 04:15.28 | kaiden | tupperware |
| 04:15.33 | kaiden | NivFreak, sorry.. had to |
| 04:15.44 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: its almost 4G |
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| 04:16.50 | Groktar | one of the warriors in my guild challenged me to a duel for deletion on my priest |
| 04:16.53 | Groktar | i beat him |
| 04:17.02 | Groktar | he said it didn't count, then challenged me to another |
| 04:17.04 | Groktar | i beat him again |
| 04:17.15 | Pkekyo| | anyone here know what 'information management' is? :P |
| 04:17.21 | Groktar | instead of deleting, i'm letting him join <Groktar is Amazing> for a week |
| 04:17.27 | Ellipsis | management of information! |
| 04:17.40 | Pkekyo| | captain obvious strikes again...now with bewbs! |
| 04:17.46 | Ellipsis | :3 |
| 04:17.51 | Pkekyo| | hai Ellipsis |
| 04:17.54 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis |
| 04:18.05 | Pkekyo| | huh, long time since I plonked anyone |
| 04:18.28 | kaiden | you should get out more |
| 04:18.35 | Pkekyo| | I fucking hate working the graveyard shift |
| 04:18.37 | fathom | bazing |
| 04:18.47 | Pkekyo| | kaiden: it's not a euphemism for fucking :) |
| 04:19.08 | Pkekyo| | and no, if I got out more I would only get beat up more :p |
| 04:19.14 | Ellipsis | it's not? :( |
| 04:19.35 | Pkekyo| | no, but arrangements can be made... |
| 04:20.23 | Pkekyo| | wait...what? :P |
| 04:20.52 | Ellipsis | cheeeeeeeeeese |
| 04:21.08 | Pkekyo| | ouh, do want! :p |
| 04:21.11 | Pkekyo| | :P |
| 04:21.19 | Pkekyo| | I should stop :P ing |
| 04:21.53 | Ellipsis | wipes the slobber off on Pkekyo|'s shirt |
| 04:22.11 | Pkekyo| | direly needs more shirts :< |
| 04:23.00 | Pkekyo| | so...'sup? |
| 04:23.03 | fathom | <worn about waist> a heavy gold studded leather girth (perfect) |
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| 04:23.06 | fathom | whoops. |
| 04:23.08 | fathom | wrong window lol |
| 04:23.41 | Pkekyo| | .... |
| 04:23.43 | Pkekyo| | what |
| 04:23.43 | Pkekyo| | the |
| 04:23.45 | Pkekyo| | flying |
| 04:23.45 | Pkekyo| | fuck |
| 04:23.57 | Ellipsis | licks Pkekyo| while he's confused |
| 04:24.01 | Kaelten | heh, wowinsider picks up my story, and the focus on wau |
| 04:24.12 | Kaelten | at least its what I expected more than forum software choices |
| 04:25.44 | Pkekyo| | what story? |
| 04:25.48 | Arrowmaster | tell them its copywrite text and to remove it |
| 04:26.04 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:26.16 | Kaelten | Pkekyo|: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 |
| 04:26.28 | Pkekyo| | tl;dr :p |
| 04:26.35 | Pkekyo| | j/k, gonna have a look later |
| 04:26.37 | Kaelten | tl;dr? |
| 04:26.50 | kaiden | too long didn't read |
| 04:27.21 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:27.29 | Kaelten | ~lart kaiden |
| 04:27.29 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack kaiden |
| 04:28.34 | kaiden | lol ;p i was just translating :P |
| 04:29.52 | Pkekyo| | was about to say it, but figured...meh... |
| 04:29.56 | Pkekyo| | I WANT MY DAMN PACKAGE :< |
| 04:30.06 | Kaelten | oh |
| 04:30.07 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:30.13 | Kaelten | ~sorry kaiden |
| 04:30.14 | purl | ACTION apologizes to kaiden |
| 04:30.17 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 04:30.22 | kaiden | ehe |
| 04:30.35 | Arrowmaster | lol these comments on wowinsider are great |
| 04:30.48 | Kaelten | heh |
| 04:30.53 | Arrowmaster | the exact kinda people that need to go diaf to help make the world a better place |
| 04:31.08 | Arrowmaster | read #19 |
| 04:31.11 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: linkagepinkage? |
| 04:31.13 | Arrowmaster | i loled |
| 04:31.18 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/19/wowaceupdater-goes-the-way-of-the-dodo/ |
| 04:31.35 | Arrowmaster | i bet #19 is completely made up |
| 04:32.22 | Pkekyo| | sure made fuck-all sense atleast |
| 04:32.27 | Kaelten | heh |
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| 04:32.44 | Arrowmaster | all tons of 'use wowmatrix' posts |
| 04:32.48 | Kaelten | well clarifications on 19, it will install and upload the results from the curse profiler. |
| 04:33.09 | Arrowmaster | does it install the curse profiles automaticly without asking? |
| 04:33.14 | Pkekyo| | so...wth is happening to my WAU? |
| 04:33.17 | Arrowmaster | profiler |
| 04:33.34 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: honestly I don't know, I use mac mainly and so I'm not familar with the current client |
| 04:33.46 | Kaelten | at the very least though you can opt out of it by deleting the profiler. |
| 04:34.26 | Kaelten | but yes, we do know all your credit card info |
| 04:34.40 | Kaelten | thanks for my trip to the caymans last month. |
| 04:34.43 | Kaelten | :) |
| 04:35.48 | Arrowmaster | well a simple 'upload anon usage info to help make curse better' option on install is enough, since so many blindly click those |
| 04:36.14 | Kaelten | I'd have to run the installer, but my desktop is hating on the nsis installer right now |
| 04:36.23 | Arrowmaster | nsis eww |
| 04:36.47 | Kaelten | ya, not my cup of tea either |
| 04:37.42 | Tenchworks | Arrowmaster: yeah it does install the profiler without asking, I have to delete the thing once a week |
| 04:38.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah that should be fixed before leaving beta |
| 04:38.33 | |Yssaril| | want too impressed by the curse client last time i tried it seamed very confusing compared to others (WAU,JWU) |
| 04:38.42 | |Yssaril| | s/want/was not |
| 04:38.43 | Arrowmaster | get an option added to upload anon usage data that will install the profiler if it doesnt exist, if it does exist then upload the data |
| 04:38.49 | Ellipsis | so let me get this straight - software is downloaded without your permission or knowledge, collects data without your permission or knowledge, and phones home with that data without your permission or knowledge? |
| 04:39.04 | Tenchworks | yup |
| 04:39.10 | Ellipsis | sweet! |
| 04:39.14 | Kaelten | which is not good and I'll raise hell on monday |
| 04:39.24 | Arrowmaster | this is why curse has a bad rep |
| 04:39.43 | Kaelten | yep, but I've been busty my ass to fix this shit and its getting better, just got to keep at it. |
| 04:40.04 | Kaelten | I imagine its buried in the ToU somewhere, but thats not cool really. |
| 04:40.10 | Tenchworks | I only let the client run to update the mods twice a week then kill it after, and it likes to re-install the profiler every other time i run it |
| 04:40.33 | Kaelten | Tenchworks: :s |
| 04:40.46 | Arrowmaster | i think calling it 'anon usage date' would be perfectly acceptable if it has an option, im guessing its anon |
| 04:41.14 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: partially, it does contain info about your character profile. |
| 04:41.23 | Kaelten | but it doesn't contain any info about you as a person. |
| 04:42.55 | |Yssaril| | Kaelten: will we have a choice where we want to publish or will it automatically be hosted on curse? |
| 04:43.14 | Arrowmaster | its already 'hosted' on curse |
| 04:43.48 | |Yssaril| | i mean the final zip |
| 04:43.52 | Tenchworks | I'm hoping the new beta-client will be less clunky and not as willing to install stuff and run exe's without your permision. |
| 04:44.04 | Kaelten | Tenchworks: oh it doesn't run anything |
| 04:44.12 | Tenchworks | haven't had a chance to try it yet |
| 04:44.31 | Tenchworks | oh that's good to hear |
| 04:44.47 | Kaelten | but currently it does install the last version of an addon that it finds. But thats becoming optional in the next build. |
| 04:45.26 | Tenchworks | last version? you mean it will re-update an up-to-date mod? |
| 04:45.29 | Kaelten | we've tossed that horrible screen that bugged people for what packages are these shit, base don a file that was a year old. |
| 04:45.35 | Kaelten | its doing automattic pick up but its not 100% yet. |
| 04:45.42 | Kaelten | Tenchworks: only the first time it sees it. |
| 04:46.06 | Tenchworks | ah that's expected |
| 04:46.15 | Kaelten | part of the challenge we're working to overcome is the complete lack of a good dataset |
| 04:46.20 | Tenchworks | WoWI's updater did the same for me |
| 04:46.21 | Kaelten | the current one its working with is horrible. |
| 04:46.50 | Kaelten | Over the next few weeks I'll be working on cleaning it up, and then wowace's data will fill many of the wholes it currently has |
| 04:46.58 | CIA-45 | 03yssaril * r78764 10YssDarkPact/ (. YssDarkPact.lua YssDarkPact.toc embeds.xml): |
| 04:46.58 | CIA-45 | YssDarkPact: |
| 04:46.58 | CIA-45 | - Hope this works as stand alone :P |
| 04:46.58 | CIA-45 | - updated to Ace3 |
| 04:46.58 | CIA-45 | - updated to LibSink-2.0 |
| 04:46.59 | CIA-45 | - added config on where to display the message in the Blizzard option menu |
| 04:47.01 | CIA-45 | - needs localization |
| 04:47.35 | Kaelten | yssaril: the | on yer name is annoying :P |
| 04:47.58 | Kaelten | but there wil be some limited controls on the syndication framework. I'm trying to figure out how to balance it properly. thoughts? |
| 04:48.51 | Tenchworks | hmmm, none atm. sleep is overtaking me :( |
| 04:49.38 | Yssaril | hmm was thinking when you tag/want to release a build you could hit submit and it would send it to the site of your choice (or all of them) be in curse/ wowi or wowui |
| 04:49.57 | daemoen | sorry, had to step away, did you have any ideas Diao? |
| 04:50.02 | Arrowmaster | good luck getting wowui support |
| 04:50.18 | Kaelten | talking about incgamers? |
| 04:50.20 | Diao | all i can think of is deleting the chatter and layout-cache in WTF folder |
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| 04:50.35 | daemoen | deleting layout cache undoes *all* items though :\ |
| 04:50.42 | daemoen | who developed chatter? |
| 04:50.51 | daemoen | is that one of cks? |
| 04:50.53 | Ellipsis | Antiarc |
| 04:50.59 | Antiarc | <== |
| 04:51.08 | Ellipsis | ^--- |
| 04:51.15 | Yssaril | choice between curse or wowi then or whoever will coopperate with us :) wowi seams likely |
| 04:51.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah, i bet their system is so closed and ass backwards that getting them to support anything external is a pipedream |
| 04:51.18 | Kaelten | Antiarc: :P |
| 04:51.46 | daemoen | Antiarc: how is it possible for someone to shrink chatter, but not be able to grow it back out? :-D |
| 04:51.59 | Ellipsis | if you lock your chat frames maybe? |
| 04:52.05 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: well incgamers would be happy to support it but I doubt I'd want to let them. They'd probably end up causing a security whole somehow |
| 04:52.16 | Yssaril | Kaelten: wil the curse client support installing with/without externals? |
| 04:52.17 | Arrowmaster | agreed |
| 04:52.21 | daemoen | how you do that? |
| 04:52.29 | Arrowmaster | i doubt they ever found that security whole of their own |
| 04:52.42 | Kaelten | Yssaril: That is something I'm working on figuring out |
| 04:52.45 | daemoen | goes to mess around in game again to see if he can fix chatter without having to wipe the entire l-c. |
| 04:52.48 | Arrowmaster | daemoen: right click the chat tab and unlock |
| 04:53.03 | Kaelten | Honestly I'd love to just have it support only no-ext builds and then download dependencies |
| 04:53.30 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: move away from X-Embeds though |
| 04:53.56 | Kaelten | ya, any configuration is more likely to be done through the web page or special metadata files |
| 04:53.57 | Ellipsis | daemoen: right-click the chat tab and look for "lock chat frame" |
| 04:54.05 | Ellipsis | also, interface options -> lock chat settings |
| 04:54.30 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: if svn then use properties, if git use .gitattributes imho |
| 04:54.54 | Kaelten | well there is hg to worry about too. I still want to finish fleshing out support for that. |
| 04:54.55 | Arrowmaster | no creating own meta data files |
| 04:55.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah i dont know how hg works |
| 04:55.13 | Arrowmaster | but it has to have something similar |
| 04:55.26 | Yssaril | new wowace will support git? |
| 04:55.29 | Kaelten | it uses .hgrc |
| 04:55.31 | Kaelten | er /.hg/hgrc |
| 04:55.31 | Ellipsis | embedded libraries should be banned from the interwebs~ |
| 04:55.33 | Kaelten | Yssaril: yes |
| 04:55.43 | Kaelten | Ellipsis: easy to say heh |
| 04:55.46 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: not this again |
| 04:55.57 | Yssaril | sweet now i just need a better windows client for git /sigh |
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| 04:56.11 | Kaelten | Yssaril: thats why I love hg |
| 04:56.15 | Ellipsis | Kaelten: hey, you're the one suggesting actually implementing it :P |
| 04:56.16 | Arrowmaster | the windows client is that bad |
| 04:56.25 | Arrowmaster | isnt |
| 04:56.40 | Kaelten | well plain files downloads would be embeded |
| 04:57.04 | daemoen | has learned about tinychat in chatter.... |
| 04:57.46 | Ellipsis | Kaelten: so how would the client handle the embedded -> disembedded conversion? |
| 04:58.01 | Arrowmaster | it wouldnt most likely |
| 04:58.07 | Ellipsis | messy :< |
| 04:58.24 | Arrowmaster | either delete the dir and install or not at all |
| 04:58.40 | Kaelten | well I'm thinking that it'd only think in terms of no-ext |
| 04:58.42 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: i just love the ease of use with tortoiseSVN |
| 04:58.45 | Arrowmaster | with a not all all approch the new files would already be moded to not load the old ones anyway |
| 04:58.51 | Kaelten | Yssaril: TortoiseHG |
| 04:58.56 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: i hate tortoisesvn with a passion |
| 04:59.02 | Ellipsis | I don't really see why the file downloads should have embedded libs at all though, after all, making dependencies harder on users would encourage them to use the client and that's the end goal, right? |
| 04:59.04 | Arrowmaster | and probably tortoisehg |
| 04:59.33 | Arrowmaster | dont like anything that hooks my explorer all the time even when im not using |
| 04:59.41 | Kaelten | Ellipsis: well, kinda. I don't want to alienate those same end users, thats why we went embedded in the first place. |
| 05:00.43 | Diao | there's a git for window? |
| 05:00.49 | Diao | windows* |
| 05:01.01 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 05:01.31 | Arrowmaster | http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ |
| 05:01.32 | Yssaril | Diao: http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ |
| 05:01.41 | Diao | ah |
| 05:02.36 | Arrowmaster | so i have a question for somebody that uses wow on a mac |
| 05:02.55 | Arrowmaster | what line endings does it save with in the WTF |
| 05:03.10 | Kaelten | \x |
| 05:03.25 | Kaelten | jk, no clue |
| 05:03.35 | Arrowmaster | well on windows it seems to use LF for .wtf files and CRLF for .lua files |
| 05:03.54 | Arrowmaster | i take that back |
| 05:03.59 | Arrowmaster | LF for Config.wtf |
| 05:04.05 | Arrowmaster | CRLF for everything else |
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| 05:12.47 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78765 10Decursive/ (Decursive.toc localization.ru.lua): |
| 05:12.47 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 05:12.47 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU translation |
| 05:14.04 | Tenchworks | ack |
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| 05:14.32 | Tenchworks | dunnow how i did it but I somehow got my text box to type from the right side |
| 05:14.48 | Arrowmaster | in wow? |
| 05:14.54 | Tenchworks | no |
| 05:15.01 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 05:15.03 | Tenchworks | my irc client |
| 05:15.13 | Arrowmaster | client os? |
| 05:15.21 | Tenchworks | can't figure how to undo it |
| 05:15.25 | Tenchworks | Mirc winxp |
| 05:15.32 | Arrowmaster | ohrly? |
| 05:15.39 | Arrowmaster | system locale? |
| 05:16.00 | Tenchworks | it's only doing it for this window/channel |
| 05:16.10 | Tenchworks | normal en standard |
| 05:16.16 | Tenchworks | enus |
| 05:16.23 | Arrowmaster | because mirc doesnt really support unicode in the editbox well |
| 05:17.25 | Arrowmaster | restarting mirc will probably fix it |
| 05:17.36 | Tenchworks | ./cry |
| 05:17.49 | Tenchworks | I guess i'll have to restart it in the morning |
| 05:17.56 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue since mirc's editbox doesnt really support IME well |
| 05:18.08 | Tenchworks | got a couple active DLs i dont' want to stop atm |
| 05:18.12 | Arrowmaster | so i dont even get the options on rightclick for stuff like input directions |
| 05:21.59 | Tenchworks | hmmm i wonder... |
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| 05:22.17 | Tenchworks | woot |
| 05:23.06 | Tenchworks | a simple closing of this channel's window and re-joining the channel fixed it |
| 05:23.11 | Tenchworks | now I can go to sleep |
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| 05:25.28 | KriLL3 | lol the achievement of highest fall without dying... druid with flightform... |
| 05:25.38 | KriLL3 | hit the roof of the world over a low point bellow |
| 05:25.41 | KriLL3 | :D |
| 05:25.57 | KriLL3 | and others could drop from a mount into water |
| 05:26.23 | ccKep | I actually like the red qiraji resonating crystal one |
| 05:26.26 | Arrowmaster | ive actually done that in nagrand over land |
| 05:26.32 | ccKep | at the same time, I hate it |
| 05:26.35 | Yssaril | KriLL3: rockethelmet go :P |
| 05:26.40 | ccKep | because we never had red's to drop |
| 05:26.42 | Arrowmaster | and im not a druid |
| 05:26.48 | KriLL3 | helm isn't that high actually |
| 05:27.00 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: only druids can instant cast flightform |
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| 05:27.04 | Yssaril | KriLL3: i mean fall and hit it at the last sec :P |
| 05:27.10 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 05:27.19 | KriLL3 | cape also |
| 05:27.36 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: i went to the roof of nagrand and fell onto land without dying |
| 05:27.40 | Arrowmaster | or using any items |
| 05:27.47 | Yssaril | ccKep: red once were rare we only had one drop |
| 05:27.49 | KriLL3 | iceblock? bubble? |
| 05:27.53 | Arrowmaster | no i didnt use anything |
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| 05:28.13 | Arrowmaster | from the time i dismounted to the time i hit the ground i did nothing at all |
| 05:28.19 | ccKep | Yssaril: I'd rather have black as an achievement because I dont have the red one |
| 05:28.22 | ccKep | ^.^ |
| 05:28.23 | Arrowmaster | and im a warlock |
| 05:28.29 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: that sounds bugged |
| 05:28.32 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 05:28.34 | KriLL3 | you should have been flat |
| 05:28.52 | Arrowmaster | the slowfall buff from the jump-a-tron lasts just long enough |
| 05:29.03 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 05:29.14 | Arrowmaster | i seriously got scared it was going to wear off near the end |
| 05:29.24 | Yssaril | ccKep: you have a black bug mount? |
| 05:29.26 | Arrowmaster | it was that close |
| 05:29.40 | ccKep | yeah, but that character is my less-played-alt now |
| 05:29.54 | ccKep | leveled him to 70 and switched to shaman (alliance side) |
| 05:30.12 | KriLL3 | it's fun loosing altitude with a druid ;> |
| 05:30.13 | Yssaril | nice to bad you cant get them anymore /sigh would love to be able to ride around in my old bug mount |
| 05:30.14 | ccKep | so my realm doesn't have any black bugs roaming =) |
| 05:30.50 | ccKep | really liked the quest chain |
| 05:30.55 | ccKep | it involved TONS of help needed |
| 05:31.10 | Arrowmaster | if anybody on my realm has it they dont use it and dont let anybody know about it |
| 05:31.22 | Arrowmaster | our original transfered off a very long time ago |
| 05:31.32 | kenlyric | ours was banned |
| 05:31.36 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:31.36 | ccKep | lol |
| 05:31.39 | Yssaril | do new realms start with AQ gates open? |
| 05:31.49 | ccKep | heard so |
| 05:31.52 | kenlyric | Yssaril: no |
| 05:32.07 | ccKep | so new realms dont have AQ20 / 40 ? OoOoOo |
| 05:32.12 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: ive heard yes and no but transfers are locked for long enough that they end up open before transfers can get in |
| 05:32.14 | kenlyric | they just had a new realm last couple weeks and said that explicitly |
| 05:33.05 | Arrowmaster | i really want to complete that quest chain so if i ever get a chance to transfer and get the mount i can |
| 05:33.24 | Arrowmaster | but im not even to neutral yet although i do have the head |
| 05:33.42 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: dosnt it involve bwl and stuff? |
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| 05:33.48 | Tenchworks | just befoer i go to bed a quick question |
| 05:33.50 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:34.00 | Yssaril | good luck getting back in there :P |
| 05:34.01 | Arrowmaster | bwl and mc |
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| 05:34.10 | Tenchworks | the wau is dead and not going to get revived, is that right? |
| 05:34.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:34.26 | Arrowmaster | its unsupported |
| 05:34.30 | Arrowmaster | but not dead 'yet' |
| 05:34.37 | Tenchworks | ? |
| 05:34.45 | Tenchworks | ok confused I am now |
| 05:35.08 | Corv | Works, but it will not be kept up to date, I think |
| 05:35.41 | Tenchworks | it throws a windows error after being luanched, after reading Kael's post on the forums I take it that it's being replaced by the Curse client (new version) |
| 05:36.09 | Arrowmaster | that wont be for quite a while |
| 05:37.14 | Tenchworks | ok, so any clue on why the wau is throwing an error? |
| 05:37.22 | Arrowmaster | because its unsupported? |
| 05:37.26 | Tenchworks | hehe |
| 05:37.38 | Arrowmaster | and theres nobody to update it |
| 05:38.11 | Fisker- | ~kisss Arrowmaster |
| 05:38.17 | Fisker- | ~kiss Arrowmaster |
| 05:38.17 | purl | ACTION forces Arrowmaster to give purl a big kiss on the neck |
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| 05:39.04 | ccKep | (my first guess would be something regarding the .NET framework) |
| 05:39.38 | Arrowmaster | mine would be that the site its trying to access to find the current toc version isnt up anymore |
| 05:40.05 | Tenchworks | it's looking for something that doesn't exist anymore? |
| 05:40.10 | KriLL3 | any suggestions for replacements? |
| 05:40.16 | Tenchworks | what site was that? |
| 05:40.22 | Arrowmaster | wdnaddons |
| 05:40.30 | Arrowmaster | which is now wowcompares.com |
| 05:40.39 | Tenchworks | oh |
| 05:40.45 | Tenchworks | hmmm |
| 05:41.57 | Tenchworks | woot that was all that i needed thank you Arrow |
| 05:43.20 | Neya | uhm, aren't texturenames supposed to be casesensitive in wow? |
| 05:44.23 | Arrowmaster | not if your on windows |
| 05:44.40 | Neya | oh, that explains it then. |
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| 05:45.11 | Arrowmaster | mac is a case sensitive file system though isnt it? meaning you should always make sure the case is correct |
| 05:45.54 | Neya | I was confused on the fact that Lorhin managed to find the correct texture even though I had given the wrong name :P |
| 05:46.16 | KriLL3 | never ever question stuff like that |
| 05:46.18 | Ackis | how big are the UI changes with wotlk? |
| 05:46.24 | Arrowmaster | big |
| 05:46.47 | KriLL3 | background, foreground or both? |
| 05:46.47 | Arrowmaster | background |
| 05:46.54 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: are you in it yet? :P |
| 05:47.03 | Arrowmaster | from what ive heard, no more global this, event, arg# stuff |
| 05:47.08 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:47.21 | Arrowmaster | kody wont give me my key |
| 05:47.29 | Ackis | wow damn you kody |
| 05:48.27 | Ackis | wonder how much work it will take to get ARL working |
| 05:49.14 | KriLL3 | I'm guessing wotlk will be another purging of addons |
| 05:49.31 | Yssaril | how much of the API is changeing? |
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| 05:50.07 | Yssaril | or is it mostly frame/UI related things? |
| 05:50.11 | KriLL3 | quite a lot from what I've heard, that's third hand at best though |
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| 05:52.43 | Ellipsis | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 05:52.43 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give ShadniX a big kiss on the ear |
| 05:54.42 | CIA-45 | 03yssaril * r78766 10YssDarkPact/ (. YssDarkPact.lua YssDarkPact.toc embeds.xml): |
| 05:54.42 | CIA-45 | YssDarkPact: |
| 05:54.42 | CIA-45 | - forgot to add LibStub and CBH |
| 05:54.42 | CIA-45 | - removed debug code (sry) |
| 05:59.12 | CIA-45 | 03yssaril * r78767 10YssDarkPact/YssDarkPact.lua: |
| 05:59.12 | CIA-45 | YssDarkPact: |
| 05:59.12 | CIA-45 | - last commit (for the night) i promise |
| 05:59.56 | Ackis | ARL: 99417 from official sites... tomorrow I may break 100k? |
| 06:00.45 | Yssaril | 100k what? |
| 06:00.49 | Ackis | downloads |
| 06:00.54 | Yssaril | damn |
| 06:01.32 | Yssaril | how many of those are unique downloads? (not people simply updating) |
| 06:01.36 | Ackis | i wrote a small LUA script to get total number of downloads |
| 06:01.37 | Ackis | not sure |
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| 06:02.23 | Ackis | need to play around with regexp a but more however to get the script to be a bit more robust |
| 06:02.51 | Ackis | ie: I have a diff regexp to detect xx,xxx and xxx where x = number |
| 06:03.33 | Ackis | it's my playing around with parsing the online databases to make recipe info easier |
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| 06:05.03 | Ackis | if only Arrowmaster would do it for me /le sigh |
| 06:05.42 | Yssaril | Kaelten: btw are you gonna lock down the SVN while the split happens for a couple of days? |
| 06:05.55 | Kaelten | i'll have to |
| 06:05.59 | Ackis | split? |
| 06:06.21 | Zhinjio | got yr memo, Ackis. Thanks for letting me know. |
| 06:06.24 | Yssaril | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 lots of changes incomming |
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| 06:08.01 | Yssaril | Kaelten: any idea when this change will happen? or is it soon (tm) :P |
| 06:08.14 | Kaelten | middle of august, exact dates tba |
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| 06:08.23 | Yssaril | cool |
| 06:10.24 | aestil | blizard fails for not sending me a wotlk beta key. |
| 06:11.20 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.27 | Kaelten | try not to burn everything down while I'm gone :P |
| 06:11.33 | aestil | question |
| 06:11.36 | Ackis | OMG OMG DRAMA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 06:11.40 | Ackis | DRAMA AHHHHH |
| 06:11.41 | aestil | about threat dogtags and... maybe aloft |
| 06:11.43 | Ackis | ok I'm done |
| 06:11.53 | Kaelten | ~lart Ackis |
| 06:11.53 | purl | throws Ackis's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 06:12.06 | Ackis | lol |
| 06:12.11 | Ackis | nice post Kaelten |
| 06:12.20 | Kaelten | ? |
| 06:12.31 | aestil | i'd like to make it show mob health [current/total] and % as well as threat value as a % of the mobs health. [think tanking zerkers/mages for mu'ru] |
| 06:12.50 | Ackis | WowAce's Plans for the Future |
| 06:13.21 | Kaelten | ah |
| 06:13.22 | Kaelten | night |
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| 07:00.00 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78768 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:00.00 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:00.00 | CIA-45 | - changed code structure |
| 07:02.11 | Lukian | anyone added the 'superior' haliscan hat yet? XD |
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| 07:13.39 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78769 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 07:13.39 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 07:13.39 | CIA-45 | - changed code structure |
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| 07:32.04 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78770 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated Blacklist |
| 07:33.43 | starlon | Antiarc: ping |
| 07:34.07 | starlon | Oh he's not even here. |
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| 07:41.02 | Hieros | Hey. Anyone using rtimport? or familiar with it? |
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| 08:01.56 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.12 | NeoTron | and then we find him apping for a guild that killed muru (we're on M'uru) that raids 8-11pm.. |
| 08:02.20 | NeoTron | so 5 hrs of sleep is ok? |
| 08:02.21 | NeoTron | ... |
| 08:05.52 | Nechckn | well... 5ish is better than 3ish I suppose |
| 08:06.54 | Nechckn | But, I couldn't see doing that for much- especially not for a "super guild" spot ;-) |
| 08:07.40 | NeoTron | it seems to me it's more like "oh they killed muru, I'll go" |
| 08:07.56 | harldephin | 5 hours is just right |
| 08:08.04 | NeoTron | when this dude joined us someone from his old server warned us that he was a jumper (come in, gear up, move to a fuirther progressed guild) |
| 08:08.19 | harldephin | well, that sucks. |
| 08:08.27 | NeoTron | guess that person probably was correct |
| 08:08.41 | NeoTron | he was undergeared when he cmae in, we geared up full in swp gear and alas |
| 08:08.45 | Nechckn | Unless that was like a year ago, I believe they were giving you a good warning. |
| 08:09.09 | Arrowmaster | im bored |
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| 08:09.53 | NeoTron | not very long ago, relatively speaking |
| 08:10.08 | harldephin | a guild should be a kind of private place for people where they stay whatever shit happens elsewhere. people should like a guild for its name, its idea, its members, not for what enemies they killed or how their "reputation" is amongst other people. |
| 08:10.21 | NeoTron | so... LF Resto shaman with felmyst kill that are looking to jump ahead past twins! |
| 08:10.43 | Arrowmaster | im so bored i was just watching shitty quality live streaming tv from japan, and afaik not a legal stream, and it had superman returns playing in english with jap subs |
| 08:14.25 | Arrowmaster | credits need to finish already, i wana know whats on next |
| 08:22.24 | Cheads | finally a guild on 'my' server that managed to kill M'uru |
| 08:23.20 | reqol | is PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD the soonest the player has a GUID assigned? |
| 08:24.05 | Arrowmaster | what else have you tried? |
| 08:24.28 | reqol | eh, it's not really important when it's assigned, honestly |
| 08:24.44 | Arrowmaster | i would try PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 08:24.51 | reqol | alright, thanks |
| 08:25.39 | Arrowmaster | the only other events that fire before that should be ADDON_LOADED and VARIABLES_LOADED i think |
| 08:26.36 | reqol | meh, it just feels sloppy registering an event to assign one variable |
| 08:26.47 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 08:27.28 | reqol | but if I put it anywhere else, I'll be running an if-then everytime that function runs |
| 08:27.30 | reqol | and that feels even worse |
| 08:28.10 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: the GUID is available when the file is loaded |
| 08:28.20 | Arrowmaster | is not |
| 08:28.21 | reqol | though, at the same time, I wouldn't have to run an if-then, just assign it every time |
| 08:28.29 | Arrowmaster | unless they changed it |
| 08:28.32 | Arrowmaster | because it wasnt |
| 08:29.02 | [Ammo] | yup available |
| 08:29.16 | [Ammo] | or hmm |
| 08:29.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah it wasnt in 2.4.0 |
| 08:29.26 | [Ammo] | ofcourse I have all those files LoD |
| 08:29.38 | [Ammo] | so not a valid test |
| 08:30.30 | reqol | which is the lesser evil? XD |
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| 08:41.15 | Ripdog | So, i was reading that stuff about the future plans for wowace |
| 08:41.28 | Ripdog | and wondered, is there going to be a mac curse client? |
| 08:41.41 | Ellipsis | Kaelten said there would be |
| 08:42.00 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.msg230973#msg230973 |
| 08:42.06 | [Ammo] | to reference the macos client |
| 08:42.14 | Ripdog | awesome :D |
| 08:43.13 | Ellipsis | om nom nom sushi~ |
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| 08:44.37 | Ripdog | hmm, a cross platform client is all very well and good, but... it's never going to be as good as a native one :( will curseforge be open to other updaters? |
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| 08:46.44 | raegx | .....anyone even up? |
| 08:47.01 | Ellipsis | sleep is for the weak |
| 08:47.12 | raegx | mmmmm true |
| 08:47.48 | raegx | does AceComm-3.0 handle normal user to user whispers or just hidden data channels? |
| 08:48.16 | m4rku5 | oh damn this curse crap ! damn all that premium users crap :S |
| 08:54.51 | Arrowmaster | raegx: it only handles addon messages |
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| 09:01.54 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r78771 10AddonLoader/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:01.54 | CIA-45 | AddonLoader: add X-LoadOn-LDB-Launcher allowing LDB plugins to have a 'fake' launcher in a quicklaunch and load their addon like that. |
| 09:01.54 | CIA-45 | thanks Tekkub |
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| 09:02.26 | raegx | @arrowmaster: ty was just looking for confirmation. Looking at the source lead me to believe that |
| 09:04.00 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r78772 10AddonLoader/ (. AddonLoader.toc): AddonLoader: fix libstub and cbh |
| 09:04.35 | Fisker- | Ellipsis's Ellipsis |
| 09:04.37 | Fisker- | doh |
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| 09:05.41 | Yasuo | hi there |
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| 09:06.01 | Yasuo | local class=L:GetReverseTranslation(UnitClass("mouseover")) puts out "reverse translation for "Kriegerin" does not exist |
| 09:06.35 | Ellipsis | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 09:06.36 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Lonny a big kiss on the hand |
| 09:06.42 | Ellipsis | Yasuo: what's L? |
| 09:06.56 | Yasuo | dunno, ist Arenamaster/Cora.lua line 218 |
| 09:07.00 | Yasuo | Core.lua |
| 09:07.11 | Yasuo | just want to get rid of that message ^^ |
| 09:07.12 | [Ammo] | use an english client :) |
| 09:07.29 | Fisker- | ~kiss Ellipsis |
| 09:07.30 | purl | ACTION forces Ellipsis to give silentium a big kiss on the ear |
| 09:07.30 | Ellipsis | well in that case my bet is babble-class or somesuch hasn't been updated for gendered class names |
| 09:07.34 | Yasuo | so the addon is not localized thats the problem? |
| 09:07.54 | Ellipsis | it's localized, but wasn't updated when male/female class names became different |
| 09:08.02 | Yasuo | hm |
| 09:08.15 | Fisker- | F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 |
| 09:08.32 | Corv | Checking your email for a beta key? |
| 09:08.41 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*i=ballmer@*.24.18.198.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk] by [Ammo] |
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| 09:08.55 | tek9|chrris | i was woundering if some one could help me...ive downloaded wowace but i cant get it to pickup my currenrly installed addons :s |
| 09:09.40 | Yasuo | ok so i may just fit localization.lua |
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| 09:19.35 | Yasuo | wher can i find a list of the english and maybe german class names? |
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| 09:24.20 | Yasuo | any Idea? |
| 09:27.02 | SunTsu | Yasuo: Babble-Class |
| 09:27.45 | Gnarfoz | Yasuo: isn't arenamaster really old and outdated and you should really be using Proximo by now? ^^ |
| 09:28.27 | Gnarfoz | also, UnitClass has been returning LocalizedClassName, EnglishClassName like, forever - Babble-Class is kind of obsolete |
| 09:28.58 | SunTsu | Gnarfoz: But he still can find information there |
| 09:29.14 | Gnarfoz | there really isn't information he needs ;D |
| 09:30.27 | dieck_ | hm. is there any problem with running MT as a 5man raid group (to test loot addons) if no one needs the quest, just farming for epics? |
| 09:30.59 | Gnarfoz | don't think so? |
| 09:31.15 | dieck_ | me neither, but before I overlook something I thought I'd ask here ;) |
| 09:34.20 | Yasuo | ok ill try proximo |
| 09:34.42 | Yasuo | SunTsu, local class=L:GetReverseTranslation(BabbleClass("mouseover")) ? |
| 09:35.51 | SunTsu | Yasuo: I don't know, never used it. |
| 09:39.43 | Yasuo | ok ill use proximo its better anyway |
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| 09:49.26 | silentium | ckknight: I just noticed you changed Chartographer to use LibGuild-1.0 instead of LibRollCall-3.0 and LibRollCall-3.0 was removed from trunk, but Cartographer_GuildPositions.toc and Cartographer_Waypoints.toc still list LibRollCall-3.0 in their optdeps |
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| 10:17.47 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78773 10StatBlocks_Combatlog/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:17.47 | CIA-45 | StatBlocks_Combatlog: initial commit |
| 10:17.47 | CIA-45 | - StatBlocks for en-/disabling your combatlog |
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| 10:28.46 | Arrowmaster | why does this nick Sakerin sound so familiar? |
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| 10:32.02 | durcyn | ffs, someone suggest in kaelten's thread that localizers have their damn hands cut off as part of the migration |
| 10:32.19 | charon | have you looked at how the CF system works? |
| 10:32.38 | durcyn | doesn't matter, he's leaving repos open by default |
| 10:32.39 | nevcairiel | you mean the system that i wrote a ticket for but wasnt done yet? :P |
| 10:32.48 | charon | i can only comment on the git part of it, but there, anyone can clone any project and modify that clone |
| 10:33.07 | charon | so i suppose translators would just update their clone, and ask the main dev to pull from it |
| 10:34.00 | durcyn | i don't see what that's going to solve, when half or more of the code on svn now is abandoned, and thusly won't have an author assigned to it after cf is in place, and thusly will remain unlocked |
| 10:34.28 | durcyn | and thusly will get toc bumped into eternity by random people who shouldn't have accounts anyway |
| 10:34.43 | charon | then claim authorship and maintain it? |
| 10:34.49 | nevcairiel | we're still discussing if projects that dont get re-claimed by some dev should remain hidden or even deleted |
| 10:34.54 | durcyn | i'd rather see it purged tbh |
| 10:35.03 | Arrowmaster | 100% agree on purge |
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| 10:35.23 | charon | well, 100% on purge if someone keeps a backup copy of the history, who knows |
| 10:35.28 | Arrowmaster | i actually think we should just push everything over to curseforge like a few others do |
| 10:35.31 | durcyn | i mean, sure, you'd still have people like alar and lordfarlander |
| 10:36.08 | Arrowmaster | the openness is the largest failure of wowace |
| 10:36.10 | nevcairiel | we also discussed the possibility moving some more stupid projects to CF |
| 10:36.12 | Arrowmaster | its too fucking open |
| 10:36.19 | Arrowmaster | we let in all the fucking morons |
| 10:36.30 | nevcairiel | also new projects on WoWAce will need approval |
| 10:36.58 | Arrowmaster | i think a no new directories created in trunk hook should have already gone in now that CF is up |
| 10:37.24 | durcyn | well, that's a two-edged sword, Arrowmaster, some people that you might not consider morons now you might've a year ago, how do you decide who gets in and who doesn't when you don't have the time required to find out if they should be or not? |
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| 10:37.51 | durcyn | amazing localizers notwithstanding |
| 10:37.56 | Arrowmaster | because on wowace you let them in and they can fuck with everything |
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| 10:38.09 | nevcairiel | that'll change anyway |
| 10:38.14 | nevcairiel | all new projects will need approval |
| 10:38.28 | nevcairiel | and we'll get a possibility to move projects to CF if we dont like them .P |
| 10:38.43 | Arrowmaster | rather have like instead of just being able to add authors to a CF project you could add groups |
| 10:38.45 | charon | the only way to avoid morons, really, is peer review |
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| 10:38.51 | Arrowmaster | and the groups could moderate themselves |
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| 10:39.01 | charon | take my example... i tend to think i've made a fair number of fixes and improvements to omen/threat |
| 10:39.08 | charon | still, i've made a moronic mistake friday night |
| 10:39.23 | nevcairiel | we all do that :P |
| 10:39.36 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: self-moderation never works out |
| 10:39.38 | Arrowmaster | peer review is the reason wowace was created |
| 10:39.39 | charon | nobody gets it right the first time, so you need some mechanism to review/test changes |
| 10:40.00 | Arrowmaster | except its so large now that nobody cares about the really shitty stuff |
| 10:40.14 | Arrowmaster | so we just complain about it |
| 10:40.25 | charon | Arrowmaster: except it's pointless if anything committed and thus "up for review" is automatically stable in the eyes of the outside world |
| 10:40.36 | Arrowmaster | oh agreed |
| 10:40.57 | Arrowmaster | a better solution might be to just go with the fork method of CF |
| 10:41.08 | charon | that, and real tags for stable versions |
| 10:41.19 | nevcairiel | thats what the software will do |
| 10:41.31 | nevcairiel | and we can all fuck with the alpha trunk builds |
| 10:41.57 | Arrowmaster | only having a single author on any somewhat large project will never be good |
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| 10:42.18 | Arrowmaster | but having a few different people that can merge in stuff from other people when needed is good |
| 10:42.43 | nevcairiel | tbh i wouldnt want some guy merging in patches that i didnt approve myself |
| 10:42.54 | nevcairiel | generally that messes stuff up |
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| 10:43.00 | charon | i doubt a single maintainer hurts, apart from the bus count issue... take linux and linus |
| 10:43.09 | charon | but a single contributor-maintainer hurts |
| 10:43.30 | Arrowmaster | single maintainer hurts when the maintainer isnt always around |
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| 10:43.46 | Arrowmaster | like to merge in fixes for a new patch |
| 10:43.58 | charon | true |
| 10:44.08 | Arrowmaster | or updated localizations |
| 10:44.29 | nevcairiel | screw locale |
| 10:44.29 | Arrowmaster | i really think groups would be a good idea for CF |
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| 10:47.04 | charon | groups how? what would be different from just having multiple authors |
| 10:47.36 | Arrowmaster | because large ones would be easyer to maintain |
| 10:48.15 | charon | shrugs |
| 10:49.00 | charon | you know how they say on #curseforge: file a ticket. but i can't see the benefit unless you have a long list of addons that will all be maintained by the same group of people |
| 10:50.36 | Arrowmaster | we will when wowace gets divided up |
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| 10:51.20 | nevcairiel | If a author decides to lock his addon, its his own fault if noone of us fixes obvious bugs |
| 10:51.56 | nevcairiel | new addons and converted from the old svn will always default to "Open" |
| 10:52.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah but then whos fault is it when its completely open addons have stupid shit happen to them like constant bugs from translators that never learn lua syntax or other retarded ness |
| 10:53.09 | nevcairiel | we remove their repo access |
| 10:53.31 | Arrowmaster | even if they have an addon of their own? |
| 10:53.37 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 10:53.40 | nevcairiel | we move them to CF |
| 10:53.41 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 10:53.52 | nevcairiel | if they cannot respect our rules |
| 10:54.27 | nevcairiel | but which translator really has a addon ;) |
| 10:54.36 | Arrowmaster | i know of one |
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| 10:55.17 | Arrowmaster | he maintains cooldowncount and has completely abandoned another addon of his eqcompare |
| 10:55.35 | Vulcanus | wat, I use EQCompare :( |
| 10:55.48 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:56.04 | Vulcanus | Wouldn't it be possible to lock somebody out of committing to any other repo than his own projects'? |
| 10:56.05 | nevcairiel | yeah anyway, if someone repeatedly causes bugs or starts mass-bumping .tocs, we'll just lock him out |
| 10:56.19 | CIA-45 | 03charon * r78776 10Mangler/: Mangler: Bye. Moved to curseforge.com some time ago. |
| 10:56.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think it would just be easyer to just move everything to curseforge |
| 10:56.42 | Vulcanus | even if the repo is set to Open, that is |
| 10:57.43 | Arrowmaster | although with everything open, when somebody does something stupid and not only breaks their own addon but everybody elses due to embeds, we can fix it |
| 10:59.00 | charon | i kinda wonder if we can force^Wconvince antiarc to switch his stuff to git during the conversion |
| 10:59.14 | nevcairiel | i hope not |
| 10:59.16 | nevcairiel | git sucks |
| 10:59.25 | Arrowmaster | no svn sucks |
| 10:59.32 | [Ammo] | you all suck |
| 10:59.34 | charon | scm sucks? |
| 10:59.35 | [Ammo] | now get back under my desk |
| 10:59.36 | nevcairiel | git needs real windows support before it'll be anywhere usable |
| 10:59.43 | nevcairiel | lets use hg :P |
| 10:59.52 | Arrowmaster | its got windows support |
| 11:00.03 | nevcairiel | msysgit is so broken |
| 11:00.04 | Arrowmaster | i use it, its fine |
| 11:00.05 | charon | hg isn't my cup of tea either |
| 11:01.11 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r78777 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: oUF_Ammo: raidframes, tweaks to debuff highlight for non-curing classes |
| 11:01.12 | charon | but well, if this is such a controversial point i'll probably just shut up and see what the Great Master decides |
| 11:01.46 | nevcairiel | but anyway, git on windows causes way too many errors for me to be able to use it |
| 11:01.53 | Arrowmaster | wowow seems to be having a marvel movie marathon, i wonder whats coming on now |
| 11:02.00 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i get 0 errors |
| 11:02.14 | Arrowmaster | hmm spiderman, wonder which one it is |
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| 11:03.13 | Healinglight | hi |
| 11:03.25 | nevcairiel | i actually like the design of git, it really just lacks proper support for me |
| 11:04.56 | Healinglight | could anyone help me with WAU? after starting it and wait 10 sec i become a windows error. |
| 11:06.25 | Healinglight | nobody? :( |
| 11:06.28 | charon | nevcairiel: what sort of error do you get? did you enable all the windows stuff like autocrlf and filemode=false? |
| 11:08.42 | nevcairiel | it even looks like the msysgit project was abandoned by one of its main devs because he didnt feel the OSS community thingy from the windows users |
| 11:08.57 | Arrowmaster | umm no |
| 11:09.02 | Arrowmaster | its updated |
| 11:09.05 | Healinglight | where can i found these options? not on perferences in this application. |
| 11:11.07 | nevcairiel | I wonder, how hard can it be to write a TortoiseGit or so :D |
| 11:11.20 | Arrowmaster | there is one |
| 11:11.28 | Arrowmaster | not that name though |
| 11:11.34 | nevcairiel | i know, cheetah or so |
| 11:11.40 | nevcairiel | but it isnt really moving |
| 11:11.56 | nevcairiel | charon: autocrlf even defaults to true in msysgit now |
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| 11:14.15 | Vilkku | lol, "wow cameno" in the dark knight |
| 11:14.29 | Vilkku | "this is what happens when the unstoppable force meats an immovable object" |
| 11:16.41 | SunTsu | Vilkku: I always thaught that's one of the basic questions ob physics, but you may see a cameo in it if you like ;) |
| 11:16.52 | Zyndrome | http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2631/tmhsighd7.gif |
| 11:16.52 | SunTsu | thought even |
| 11:16.58 | Vilkku | hence "wow cameno" and not wow cameno |
| 11:17.26 | theoddone33 | cameo |
| 11:17.50 | Vilkku | :< |
| 11:18.00 | SunTsu | theoddone33: Thanks, I didn't want to be a dumbass again ;) |
| 11:18.26 | theoddone33 | seeing it tomorrow |
| 11:18.34 | theoddone33 | if I don't oversleep because I've stayed up so damn late |
| 11:19.46 | theoddone33 | for some reason I decided I'd read a summary of pretty much the entire tv series lost |
| 11:22.12 | SunTsu | theoddone33: That really spoils it |
| 11:22.12 | nevcairiel | charon: it appears the bugs i've had with git on vista are fixed in 1.5.6 now *shrug |
| 11:22.27 | theoddone33 | I didn't really have any intention to watch it |
| 11:22.32 | theoddone33 | oddly enough I might now |
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| 11:24.36 | charon | nevcairiel: sorry, had to run from the rain right after the last question |
| 11:24.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:24.52 | nevcairiel | raining inside? |
| 11:25.10 | charon | laptop+internet on the balcony ftw |
| 11:25.14 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:25.32 | charon | though it's strictly speaking not mobile networking, more like 20m-radius-networking |
| 11:26.07 | nevcairiel | nah i just noticed that it apparently was msys fault that git wasnt working properly on vista, 1.5.6 of msysgit includes a vista-compatible version of the msys runtime, and it works better now |
| 11:26.21 | charon | aha, ok, that's good to know |
| 11:27.06 | m4rku5 | umm nevcairiel what happens to wowace now ? will it be shut down ? Im confused by Kaelten's announcement |
| 11:27.38 | nevcairiel | the svn will be closed, and replaced by a new svn |
| 11:27.43 | nevcairiel | or git or hg if you want :P |
| 11:27.56 | nevcairiel | also files.wowace.com and WAU will be shut down |
| 11:28.24 | m4rku5 | so that means wowace will be repo hosting for devs only ? |
| 11:28.52 | nevcairiel | it'll still create .zips of your repo |
| 11:29.05 | nevcairiel | but there wont be a centralized page like files to get them all |
| 11:29.20 | m4rku5 | but people cant use those to update their addons |
| 11:29.32 | m4rku5 | i somehow dislike that premium users thing about CF :/ |
| 11:29.33 | [Ammo] | and there was much rejoicing |
| 11:29.35 | nevcairiel | but you can push your .zips to Curse, and in the feature maybe other release sites if they work out some of the details |
| 11:29.44 | Healinglight | for WAU issue open the "host" file on your "windwows/system32/etc/" dir and entry 24.129.136.26 wdnaddons.com |
| 11:29.46 | Healinglight | it works |
| 11:29.58 | Healinglight | bye an thanks for your help *lol* ^^ |
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| 11:30.13 | nevcairiel | wonder what wdnaddons has to do with WAU |
| 11:30.18 | [Ammo] | yeah me too |
| 11:30.27 | charon | btw has anyone tried the omen AOE pullout? any comments on the display strategy? |
| 11:30.38 | Arrowmaster | for checking the current toc version |
| 11:31.37 | m4rku5 | and CF itself also offers repos for devs i guess |
| 11:32.16 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: oh |
| 11:32.26 | nevcairiel | charon: i still consider AoE mode broken :P |
| 11:32.34 | charon | what how |
| 11:32.48 | nevcairiel | i havent tried it for ever, and the last time i did it was broken |
| 11:32.49 | nevcairiel | so |
| 11:32.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:32.57 | charon | lol |
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| 11:33.15 | nevcairiel | What i would really like is a "lock target" setting in Single Target mode |
| 11:33.24 | nevcairiel | so i can set it on the boss but still switch targets |
| 11:33.26 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 11:33.40 | nevcairiel | as a healer and raid leader that would be useful |
| 11:34.35 | charon | true |
| 11:34.59 | nevcairiel | best would be to remember the last aggro target i saw |
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| 11:35.17 | nevcairiel | so if i target the boss it'll show it |
| 11:35.19 | charon | isn't it programmed to try ToT if T is not an enemy? |
| 11:35.20 | nevcairiel | until i switch target |
| 11:35.27 | charon | so if you target the tank, it'll show the boss |
| 11:35.30 | nevcairiel | charon: yeah, but not if i heal another healer :P |
| 11:35.51 | charon | i'm just saying there's no way to implement the last aggro thing without changing current behaviour |
| 11:36.01 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 11:36.07 | nevcairiel | was more like some thoughts for omen 3.0 |
| 11:36.08 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 11:36.08 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 11:36.39 | nevcairiel | we should create a channel with Antiarc and the other guys that want to help on omen/threat for 3.0 |
| 11:37.06 | charon | true |
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| 11:37.42 | charon | #omen is up for grabs, so why not use that? |
| 11:41.38 | Orionshock | ? |
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| 12:00.31 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
| 12:00.31 | CIA-45 | -Typo fix |
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| 12:14.12 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/91654 |
| 12:14.15 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.52 | Artmi | "Interface\FrameXML\ChatConfigFrame.lua:975: attempt to index global 'CHATCONFIG_SELECTED_FILTER_SETTINGS' (a nil value)", you are trying to use a variable that "doesn't exist"(a nil value) |
| 12:15.57 | Artmi | the other error i have no idea about |
| 12:17.05 | Artmi | A whole lot easier for people to aid you, if you actually paste the source code as well |
| 12:18.02 | nevcairiel | You probably have a chat addon that breaks the chat config |
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| 12:26.00 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: just changing the color on a chat channel using default ui, tho i do have chatter installed .. |
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| 12:48.14 | kalahassi | since a few days my chatter doesnt display questlinks anymore, just the questtitle in plaintext |
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| 12:53.07 | Gnarfoz | blizz bug :( |
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| 13:02.17 | ckknight | silentium: thanks for catching that |
| 13:03.33 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78779 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Cartographer_Waypoints.toc: Cartographer - Change Cartographer_Waypoints to reference LibGuild-1.0 instead of LibRollCall-3.0 |
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| 13:07.50 | Orionshock | so ckknight u goina do another set of addons to supplement Cart3 with all the stuff that was in cart2? |
| 13:08.12 | ckknight | not necessarily, but to some degree, yes |
| 13:08.42 | ckknight | in any event, I've been making sure that third-party addons are supported well enough |
| 13:08.55 | nevcairiel | imho redoing the profession shit would be really silly, if you have issues with GatherMater bring it up with us :P |
| 13:08.55 | Orionshock | hehe |
| 13:09.56 | nevcairiel | -r |
| 13:10.19 | ckknight | I don't plan on redoing the profession stuff in the same way at all |
| 13:10.21 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: actually i do, who ever designed the options table for it needs to be shot. they seem to demonstrate a severe lack of what intuitive means. :D |
| 13:10.37 | nevcairiel | why is that? |
| 13:10.55 | nevcairiel | and why does it matter? Not like you have to reconfigure it very often :) |
| 13:11.16 | Orionshock | filtering options just are a pain to work with |
| 13:11.24 | Matrix110| | hmm MyMedia gives me errors about [[path]] |
| 13:11.25 | Matrix110| | 2008/07/20 15:10:24-3740-x1]: MyMedia-1.0\MyMedia.lua:100: nesting of [[...]] is deprecated near '[' |
| 13:11.36 | Matrix110| | but in the example its made like that :-) |
| 13:11.38 | Matrix110| | ( |
| 13:11.38 | Arrowmaster | MyMedia doesnt exist |
| 13:11.46 | Matrix110| | well it does for me :P |
| 13:11.55 | nevcairiel | you probably just copied the example but didnt read the disclaimer in it |
| 13:11.57 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 13:12.14 | Arrowmaster | no he probably has the very old MyMedia thats since been deleted from wowace |
| 13:12.47 | Orionshock | every herb/ore has a fixed skill range, imo gathermate needs to have an "auto-magic" option to filter out stuff that is either trivial or not obtainable |
| 13:13.02 | nevcairiel | or he renamed the INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia.txt to .lua and added stuff |
| 13:13.05 | [Ammo] | your opinion does not count orionshock ;) |
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| 13:13.18 | Orionshock | [Ammo]: this i know... :( |
| 13:13.22 | Matrix110| | my register lines are: |
| 13:13.25 | Matrix110| | SharedMedia:Register("sound", "SoS(3)",[[Interface\\Addons\\MyMedia\\sos.wav]]) |
| 13:13.36 | Arrowmaster | looks fine |
| 13:13.43 | nevcairiel | actually, it doesnt |
| 13:13.49 | Arrowmaster | er yeah it doesnt |
| 13:13.52 | Matrix110| | oh wait in the example it got changed to / isntead of \\ |
| 13:13.53 | nevcairiel | if you use [[ ]], only use one \ |
| 13:14.05 | nevcairiel | but that wouldnt cause your error |
| 13:14.12 | nevcairiel | what does is, you probably copied the full file |
| 13:14.13 | nevcairiel | right? |
| 13:14.18 | nevcairiel | remove the big comments in the top |
| 13:14.20 | nevcairiel | and it'll work |
| 13:15.11 | Matrix110| | why would it care about bigass comment it didnt before with SM-1.0 |
| 13:15.24 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt |
| 13:15.26 | Arrowmaster | lua does |
| 13:15.47 | nevcairiel | lua cannot nest [[ |
| 13:15.57 | nevcairiel | [[ ]] is a lteral string |
| 13:16.05 | Matrix110| | hmm |
| 13:16.10 | nevcairiel | now if you do --[[ ]] |
| 13:16.10 | Arrowmaster | well it can, but not with [[ exactly |
| 13:16.10 | nevcairiel | you have a literal string that is commented out |
| 13:16.41 | nevcairiel | lua> t = [=[Hello]=]; return t |
| 13:16.41 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: Hello |
| 13:16.59 | Matrix110| | With LibSM-3.0 the mymedia file has to be inside the SM folder? |
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| 13:17.07 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 13:17.23 | nevcairiel | lua> --[=[Hello]=] return 2 |
| 13:17.23 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 2 |
| 13:17.34 | Arrowmaster | you can have it in a mod named MyMedia as long as that mod reqdeps SharedMedia |
| 13:17.47 | nevcairiel | lua> --[=[Hello[[foo]] bar]=] return 2 |
| 13:17.47 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 2 |
| 13:17.55 | nevcairiel | lua> --[[[Hello[[foo]] bar]] return 2 |
| 13:17.55 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: '=' expected near ']' |
| 13:18.02 | nevcairiel | lua> --[[Hello[[foo]] bar]] return 2 |
| 13:18.02 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: '=' expected near ']' |
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| 13:18.07 | m4rku5 | wtf |
| 13:18.17 | Matrix110| | MyMedia.lua has basically only has 5 of these lines SharedMedia:Register("sound", "SoS(3)",[[Interface/Addons/MyMedia/sos.wav]]) MyMedia.toc has ## OptionalDeps: Ace2, SharedMediaLib, LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 13:18.23 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i broke my editors folding with --[[ ... --[=[ ]] ... --]=] |
| 13:18.29 | Matrix110| | (I know i can remove Ace2/Sharedmedialib |
| 13:19.03 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78780 10SharedMedia/INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia.txt: SharedMedia: change comment chars to not error when someone copies this file for his own use |
| 13:19.10 | Arrowmaster | Matrix110|: it needs to reqdep 'SharedMedia' exactly not any of the other SharedMedia's |
| 13:19.22 | Matrix110| | ah |
| 13:19.39 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: remove the unnecessary indents too |
| 13:19.48 | Arrowmaster | in the example |
| 13:19.53 | Matrix110| | so: ## Dependencies: SharedMedia |
| 13:19.55 | Matrix110| | is correct? |
| 13:19.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 13:20.05 | nevcairiel | why? it looks so good |
| 13:20.16 | Arrowmaster | does not |
| 13:20.28 | nevcairiel | on a 2space wide tab it does |
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| 13:20.44 | Arrowmaster | pff |
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| 13:22.45 | Gnarfoz | halp |
| 13:22.57 | nevcairiel | try ~halp |
| 13:22.59 | Gnarfoz | can you somehow define your own FontObjects to inherit from? |
| 13:23.16 | Arrowmaster | so ive watched 3 american movies now in a row from japanese tv being captured and streamed over the net |
| 13:23.19 | Gnarfoz | I'm weirded out by the whole FontString, FontObject, SetHeight, fontsize stuff >_> |
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| 13:45.40 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r78781 10Decursive/ (Dcr_Raid.lua localization.lua): |
| 13:45.40 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 13:45.40 | CIA-45 | - Quick hack until real fix for the nil error in the roster function when pet are scanned. |
| 13:55.45 | durcyn | Matrix110|: buh? the standalone MyMedia addon is deprecated >_< |
| 13:57.14 | Matrix110| | hmm |
| 13:57.16 | Matrix110| | where is the error |
| 13:57.17 | Matrix110| | SharedMedia:Register("sound","SoS",[[Interface/Addons/MyMedia/sos.wav]]) |
| 13:57.31 | Matrix110| | [2008/07/20 15:52:11-3753-x1]: LibSharedMedia-2.0\LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua:163: Provided path does not contain a valid filename. |
| 13:57.36 | Matrix110| | cant find the soundfile it seems |
| 13:57.43 | Matrix110| | oh |
| 13:57.44 | Matrix110| | AddOns |
| 13:58.55 | Stanzilla | you should put custom files in the "MyMedia files" folder |
| 14:00.22 | durcyn | backspaces, Matrix110|. |
| 14:00.28 | durcyn | backslashes even |
| 14:00.30 | durcyn | backstuff. |
| 14:00.51 | Matrix110| | in the example its / |
| 14:02.11 | Matrix110| | nvm that |
| 14:02.22 | Matrix110| | epic fail from me :D |
| 14:03.24 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78782 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 14:03.24 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:03.24 | CIA-45 | - testing some new structure (RC) |
| 14:03.40 | durcyn | wow wants backslashes, regardless of platform. |
| 14:03.48 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78783 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 14:03.48 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 14:03.48 | CIA-45 | - testing some new structure (RC) |
| 14:13.53 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Athor Key Give-Away! http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 |
| 14:14.03 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Athor Key Give-Aways! http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 |
| 14:14.14 | Kaelten | http://www.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ |
| 14:15.03 | Arrowmaster | wheres my key |
| 14:15.29 | Kaelten | ~lart Arrowmaster |
| 14:15.29 | purl | strangles Arrowmaster with a doohicky mouse cord |
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| 14:23.27 | KriLL3 | Bah, Curse Client Beta Release 1.0.2.1 only gives me a bunch of wxwidget errors and then crashes :( |
| 14:23.42 | KriLL3 | it's even less useful than WAU, you can use WAU if you're damn quick |
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| 14:25.57 | Lukian | ag`, hello! |
| 14:26.52 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: you could just let WAU auto-update and it won't crash anymore? |
| 14:27.08 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: how would I do that? |
| 14:27.09 | Lukian | ag`, I have an amusing bug report for you :D |
| 14:27.20 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: dunno, I started it and it did update. |
| 14:27.27 | ag` | Lukian: nice |
| 14:27.40 | Lukian | ag`, Sanity Inventory kills agUF (ace3) ^_^ |
| 14:27.56 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: that's the same as curse.com's, right? |
| 14:28.05 | ag` | Lukian: doesn't sound like it is my fault |
| 14:28.11 | Lukian | Indeed :D |
| 14:28.25 | Lukian | Mind taking a look though? |
| 14:28.27 | Antiarc | Sanity's also old and hasn't been worked on in ages |
| 14:28.30 | Antiarc | But what's the problem? |
| 14:28.36 | Antiarc | Like, more specifically |
| 14:28.43 | Lukian | agUF's frames aren't created when Sanity is enabled |
| 14:29.12 | Antiarc | That's interesting. |
| 14:29.24 | Antiarc | I'll take a peek when I get a bit. |
| 14:29.34 | Antiarc | I can't imagine what'd cause that |
| 14:29.39 | Arrowmaster | aguf doesnt create its frames until onenable anyway |
| 14:29.58 | starlon | Antiarc: Mind if I add a module to Deaden? |
| 14:30.07 | Lukian | by "created" I mean I can't see them, the issue may actually be elsewhere :) |
| 14:30.07 | Antiarc | For what? |
| 14:30.16 | starlon | oUF_Castbar |
| 14:30.20 | Antiarc | Go for it |
| 14:30.26 | starlon | k |
| 14:30.44 | Lukian | (specifically the player and target etc frames -- I think the party frames may work sometimes :o) |
| 14:32.20 | Kaelten | Antiarc: its because you're 'kill aguf' code. |
| 14:32.25 | Antiarc | Oh |
| 14:32.27 | Antiarc | That must be it |
| 14:32.48 | Antiarc | Okay, this makes no sense |
| 14:32.52 | Kaelten | ya, so just search for that comment ;) |
| 14:32.52 | Antiarc | Has gsub changed for wrath? |
| 14:33.15 | Antiarc | wait, nm, I'm tired. |
| 14:33.20 | Lukian | ag`, another issue, which I can resolve myself (but end-users shouldn't have to) -- the "upgrade" of click2cast -- lost all the existing keybinds (stored in the character profile, rather than the 'global' directory), so users have to reconfigure click2cast :/ |
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| 14:33.37 | Lukian | (or manually import the old lua into the new one) |
| 14:36.10 | Antiarc | okay, something has to have changed |
| 14:36.14 | Antiarc | Because this isn't matching |
| 14:37.04 | Antiarc | "(%[([%d. ]*)([^%]]-)%]) " matches "[6. test] [Adryne]: test" on live and in lua.exe, but not in Wrath |
| 14:37.56 | |Pixel| | oO |
| 14:40.52 | Antiarc | also, as a heads up, on buttons, SetTextFontObject was renamed to SetNormalFontObject |
| 14:41.05 | Adys | Gah, thanks Antiarc |
| 14:41.11 | Adys | I was wondering what happened to that one :( |
| 14:41.26 | Antiarc | I changed all references in AceGUI and it's all happy now |
| 14:41.34 | Adys | Has aceconsole been updated for wrath by the way? |
| 14:41.56 | Adys | I cant find the logs anymore been a while :/ |
| 14:42.07 | Antiarc | Likely not |
| 14:43.11 | Antiarc | It seems to work fine though |
| 14:43.14 | Antiarc | Ace3's copy anyhow |
| 14:43.35 | Kaelten | ya, wrath is changing enough to give me a headache :( |
| 14:43.37 | Adys | the slashhandlers dont work, but Im using AceConsole2.0 |
| 14:43.57 | Antiarc | Oh, yeah, ace2's is all borked up |
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| 14:44.22 | [Ammo] | good time to get rid of that bloated junk |
| 14:44.33 | Kaelten | ya, I wonder if we can let ace2 die with 3.0 |
| 14:44.37 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 14:45.23 | Adys | Antiarc: What's the svn address for Ace3's version? |
| 14:45.40 | Lukian | Kaelten, yes please :D |
| 14:46.01 | Antiarc | There isn't one yet |
| 14:46.04 | Antiarc | I should probably fork it |
| 14:46.20 | Kaelten | Antiarc: ya make a branch |
| 14:46.30 | Antiarc | man |
| 14:46.32 | Antiarc | wtb git clone |
| 14:46.37 | Kaelten | :P |
| 14:46.48 | Kaelten | sorry ace3 won't be using git after the new launch |
| 14:46.49 | Kaelten | maybe hg |
| 14:47.04 | [Ammo] | svn :p |
| 14:47.06 | [Ammo] | fuck the rest |
| 14:47.09 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 14:47.22 | [Ammo] | untill there is proper windows support for either, shrug |
| 14:47.26 | Kaelten | Ammo, yer such a hippy. |
| 14:47.31 | EvilJohn- | bah, the curse client just cratered on install |
| 14:47.33 | Kaelten | oh, hg has good windows support |
| 14:47.39 | [Ammo] | no I'm a conservative bastard |
| 14:47.49 | Kaelten | EvilJohn- is it the damn'd nsis error? |
| 14:47.54 | Arrowmaster | git or die |
| 14:47.55 | [Ammo] | oh yeah WAU out the window \o/ much rejoicing |
| 14:48.03 | EvilJohn- | WXWidgit errors on first time running |
| 14:48.14 | Kaelten | EvilJohn- Please make a ticket on curseforge |
| 14:48.20 | EvilJohn- | i'm already there |
| 14:48.24 | Kaelten | Kolie needs to know about that |
| 14:48.34 | Kaelten | thanks mate :) |
| 14:48.40 | [Ammo] | and with proper windows support I mean tortoise style support |
| 14:48.42 | EvilJohn- | is tehere anywayh to dump a log? |
| 14:48.43 | [Ammo] | which is just excellent |
| 14:48.46 | EvilJohn- | on install? |
| 14:48.55 | fewyn | WAU out the window will be nice once i see the new client =p |
| 14:49.05 | fewyn | can it just not be ugly looking and simple? |
| 14:49.45 | ag` | yes please just use the standard windows widgets |
| 14:50.04 | fewyn | we don't need fancy rounded edges and colours galore |
| 14:51.01 | [Ammo] | getting rid of it totally is making my day the best ever |
| 14:51.22 | CIA-45 | 03antiarc 07WotLK * r78784 10Ace3/: Branch for Wrath |
| 14:51.38 | Kaelten | Ammo: TortiseHG :) |
| 14:51.42 | ag` | so how do you devs get keys |
| 14:51.47 | ag` | wowi? |
| 14:52.04 | fewyn | TortoiseHG? |
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| 14:52.08 | fewyn | HG? |
| 14:52.12 | EvilJohn- | there really hsould be a way to attach a screen shot to new tickets |
| 14:52.16 | fewyn | is this something new? |
| 14:52.18 | Kaelten | ag`: it uses wxwidgets which I believe uses native controls |
| 14:52.20 | Arrowmaster | why is everybody hooked on tortoise style guis? |
| 14:52.23 | Kaelten | fewyn: mercurial |
| 14:52.27 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: they're nice |
| 14:52.40 | ag` | Kaelten: yes, great |
| 14:52.42 | Kaelten | fewyn: ITs a dvcs written in python. |
| 14:52.42 | fewyn | Kaelten: sounds vaguely familiar? link/more info? |
| 14:52.42 | Cryect | Converting to mercurial? |
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| 14:52.47 | fewyn | AH |
| 14:52.49 | fewyn | now i remember |
| 14:52.56 | Kaelten | Cryect: the new site will support svn, git, and hg |
| 14:53.05 | Cryect | ah |
| 14:53.07 | fewyn | nice |
| 14:53.29 | ag` | Kaelten: wxWidgets is crossplatform too... This means mac this time around? :P |
| 14:53.32 | Cryect | I've been meaning to try it out |
| 14:53.35 | Kaelten | ag`: there is a beta available on curseforge |
| 14:53.37 | Kaelten | ag`: yep |
| 14:53.50 | Kaelten | Cryect: cool, back up your addons first, it is still a beta ;) |
| 14:53.50 | ag` | beautiful |
| 14:53.59 | ag` | getting it right from the start always makes it easier later on |
| 14:54.05 | Kaelten | ag`: its not available atm, but it will be available before the beta ends |
| 14:54.09 | EvilJohn- | i'm going to miss the WAU, and the old way this was done, but it really did need to go away |
| 14:54.28 | Kaelten | mainly because Kolie is a lazy bastid ;) |
| 14:54.30 | Cryect | Kaelten, well I was actually planning to try it on my own computer for a hobby project I'm working on |
| 14:54.32 | CIA-45 | 03antiarc 07WotLK * r78785 10Ace3/ (Ace3.toc AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-TreeGroup.lua): Ace3 - Bump TOC, fix TreeGroup so that SetTextFontObject -> SetNormalFontObject |
| 14:54.53 | Cryect | Have to actually login into WoW to work on WoW addons decently :-p |
| 14:54.58 | Kaelten | hehe |
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| 14:55.12 | Cryect | And then when I do that I go man i don't really want to play this |
| 14:55.18 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:55.23 | Kaelten | well guys I got to run for a few hours |
| 14:55.25 | Kaelten | I'll be back. |
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| 15:09.53 | CIA-45 | 03ananhaid * r78786 10Parrot/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:09.53 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 15:09.53 | CIA-45 | - The pet's combatevent compare with the locale. |
| 15:09.53 | CIA-45 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 15:17.38 | Antiarc | WHOA |
| 15:17.49 | Antiarc | I think Blizzard is encoding all the recipes you know into your tradeskill item links |
| 15:18.02 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 15:18.22 | ckknight | how so? |
| 15:18.29 | Antiarc | sec, testing |
| 15:18.55 | Antiarc | Bah |
| 15:19.05 | Antiarc | Anyhow, tradeskill links have a bit long string of encoded text in them now |
| 15:19.08 | Antiarc | Trying to get a sample |
| 15:21.42 | Antiarc | Man, the floatingchatframes are a mess |
| 15:22.04 | *** join/#wowace Vulcanus (n=Vulcanus@212251188081.customer.cdi.no) |
| 15:22.25 | Antiarc | Chatter: ^^cffffd000^^Htrade:32549:375:375:5544C:NnooMOnoOomoo_oMXn=0NM[_Ob_>[ja1H00040lnoo1L_1hh\110000Po3c_10000no1^^h[Leatherworking]^^h^^r 5 |
| 15:22.27 | Antiarc | That's my leatherworking |
| 15:22.33 | Antiarc | ^^ is | |
| 15:23.09 | Antiarc | Chatter: [Dodge] 0 |
| 15:23.09 | Antiarc | Chatter: [Mace Specialization] 0 |
| 15:23.09 | Antiarc | Chatter: ^^cffffd000^^Htrade:33359:375:375:5544C:fOkgoookoomKOoooog0000<oO^^h[Cooking]^^h^^r 5 |
| 15:23.18 | Antiarc | As you can see, non-tradeskills work fine |
| 15:23.51 | Antiarc | I'll betcha that garbage is an encoded tradeskill list |
| 15:24.09 | Antiarc | I'd need other people to test against though |
| 15:24.49 | VonhintenHOME` | Low level toon, diff leatherworking before and after a skill |
| 15:25.03 | VonhintenHOME` | or something easy, like tailoring |
| 15:25.05 | Antiarc | I can test with my enchanting actually |
| 15:25.34 | Antiarc | I copied my rogue twice |
| 15:25.39 | Antiarc | And only one knows the wrath enchants |
| 15:26.08 | Antiarc | Bah |
| 15:26.11 | Antiarc | alpha chars are still locked |
| 15:26.53 | fewyn | awe |
| 15:26.55 | fewyn | that's lame |
| 15:28.43 | Antiarc | question is, how to read it |
| 15:28.58 | Antiarc | It looks primarily alphanumeric, not hex |
| 15:31.54 | Antiarc | Oh, crap |
| 15:31.59 | Antiarc | Learning a tradeskill requires level 5 |
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| 15:32.08 | VonhintenHOME` | it's gibberish |
| 15:32.22 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: start a dk |
| 15:32.27 | Antiarc | Ooh, good idea. |
| 15:32.39 | Antiarc | And skinning doesn't have any extra stuff, so it isn't encoding skill level |
| 15:32.40 | QuantumDelta | http://www.vimeo.com/1366644 Spoil0r alert :P |
| 15:32.59 | VonhintenHOME` | what about mining |
| 15:33.17 | VonhintenHOME` | or smelting |
| 15:33.17 | Antiarc | I dunno, I'd have to go learn it |
| 15:33.17 | QuantumDelta | Aren't mining and skinning gaining achievement related bonuses? |
| 15:33.41 | VonhintenHOME` | for mining you still have to train how to smelt things |
| 15:35.45 | Antiarc | Chatter: ^^cffffd000^^Htrade:3273:270:300:574D0:m;7Pn?^^h[First Aid]^^h^^r 5 |
| 15:35.46 | Adys | Antiarc: US or EU? |
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| 15:35.49 | Antiarc | There's First Aid on a DK |
| 15:35.49 | Antiarc | US |
| 15:35.54 | Adys | bah |
| 15:36.01 | Antiarc | They know up to Runecloth to start |
| 15:36.08 | fewyn | that's cool |
| 15:36.10 | Antiarc | YES, there it is |
| 15:36.14 | fewyn | first aid can be a bitch to level |
| 15:36.16 | Antiarc | Tradeskills have a button |
| 15:36.23 | Antiarc | "Click here to create a link to your profession" |
| 15:36.42 | Antiarc | Clicking it opens the tradeskill window |
| 15:36.45 | Antiarc | With all the known recipes |
| 15:36.50 | Antiarc | Holy craps that's cool. |
| 15:37.03 | Antiarc | So we don't even have to decode it |
| 15:37.29 | Adys | Antiarc: I get every skill twice with that button |
| 15:37.31 | Adys | you too? |
| 15:37.35 | Antiarc | Just once |
| 15:37.49 | Antiarc | Oh, nevermind |
| 15:37.50 | Antiarc | Twice! |
| 15:38.05 | Adys | that is fantastic |
| 15:38.10 | Antiarc | That's a damned cool addition |
| 15:39.01 | Adys | Think only the spell IDs are encoded in that? |
| 15:39.29 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 15:39.33 | Antiarc | No reason for anything else to be |
| 15:39.44 | Adys | hmm |
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| 15:43.44 | fewyn | why do parents believe sending me chain letter emails are a good idea? |
| 15:44.24 | fewyn | total waste of inbox space |
| 15:44.55 | charon | they'd hate to see you get hit by lightning while your car is falling down a cliff into a pool of molten lava |
| 15:45.25 | Adys | full of sharks with laser beams on their head |
| 15:45.29 | KriLL3 | anyone know of a good buff addon? I'm much too used to having em top right and pitbulls location bellow your hp/mana frame isn't working for me |
| 15:47.27 | fewyn | i use satrina buff frames KriLL3, i like it |
| 15:47.35 | KriLL3 | is it ace? |
| 15:47.54 | fewyn | ye |
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| 15:50.39 | KriLL3 | ty |
| 15:50.43 | KriLL3 | man you have to be quick in WAU |
| 15:50.49 | KriLL3 | took me 4 tries |
| 15:52.09 | fewyn | yep |
| 15:52.21 | fewyn | which is why i'm currently not trying anything new |
| 15:52.31 | fewyn | if my UI dies i'm going to be fucked |
| 15:52.44 | KriLL3 | I can update stuff, just go in and his F10 |
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| 15:53.17 | KriLL3 | but finding something new and installing it is hard |
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| 15:53.57 | KriLL3 | I hope said mythical curse forge updater gets released soon, and that it works, the current version just gives me a series of errors and then crash |
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| 16:00.05 | Antiarc | woot |
| 16:00.12 | Antiarc | Chatters ChatLink functionality includes tradeskill linking now :D |
| 16:00.22 | Chompers | horay |
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| 16:06.42 | kenlyric | curse isn't a truck |
| 16:06.46 | kenlyric | it's a series of errors |
| 16:09.58 | ckknight | kenlyric: lol |
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| 16:12.15 | ag` | Does anyone know if there is a keybinding widget for AceGUI-3.0 somewhere? |
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| 16:14.25 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78787 10StatBlocks_Combatlog/StatBlocks_Combatlog.lua: |
| 16:14.25 | CIA-45 | StatBlocks_Combatlog: |
| 16:14.25 | CIA-45 | - fixed a typo |
| 16:21.05 | CIA-45 | 03antiarc 07WotLK * r78788 10Chatter/: Branch for Wrath |
| 16:21.26 | Antiarc | Rut ro |
| 16:21.31 | Antiarc | SVN: Could not open the requested SVN filesystem |
| 16:24.01 | fewyn | Hmm... what should I name my hunters Ravager? Suggestions? |
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| 16:25.05 | CIA-45 | 03antiarc 07WotLK * r78789 10Chatter/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Chatter: First updates for Wrath. Mostly works! |
| 16:25.13 | ckknight | Cuddlebunny |
| 16:25.41 | fewyn | Something that wouldn't get me killed by other hunters that think the name is lame? |
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| 16:29.37 | kalahassi | did they send the wotlkkeys in europe yet? |
| 16:29.47 | Megalon | AlGore |
| 16:30.40 | Cheads | hmm aren't you supposed to be able to link quests from your questlog, when I try to link a quest it is put into the edit box as [Quest Name] but when I press enter it's just the text: Quest Name seem to remember that in 2.4.2 it worked? |
| 16:31.41 | Matrix110| | its bugged atm |
| 16:32.10 | Cheads | ok, thanks |
| 16:37.12 | Cheads | is there a 2.4.3 known issues list somewhere? |
| 16:37.33 | Matrix110| | prolly |
| 16:38.38 | Matrix110| | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/10/patch-2-4-known-issues/ |
| 16:38.42 | Matrix110| | ops |
| 16:38.43 | Matrix110| | nvm:P |
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| 17:02.24 | CIA-45 | 03xuerian * r78790 10XLootMaster/ (XLootMaster.lua XLootMasterOptions.lua localization.enUS.lua): XLootMaster: Add Announce self-loot option (Drycode) |
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| 17:11.11 | fewyn | Vulcanus stop dcing |
| 17:11.38 | Azurewrath | mhm.. is parrot broken for anyone else? |
| 17:12.13 | profalbert | azurewrath, not me, why? |
| 17:12.32 | Azurewrath | it just displays nothing anymore.. since yesterday |
| 17:12.36 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: haet! |
| 17:12.38 | Gnarfoz | > 9000 |
| 17:13.11 | Gnarfoz | wtb beta :< |
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| 17:14.30 | ckknight | what's a good way to programmatically tell if you're in WoW 3.0? |
| 17:15.10 | Ackis | achievement functions? |
| 17:15.10 | ckknight | profalbert: ping |
| 17:15.16 | profalbert | ckknight: pong |
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| 17:15.52 | Ackis | there has to be some api stuff about getting achievments etc |
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| 17:18.05 | ramoz | KriLL3: try running th einstaller |
| 17:18.29 | KriLL3 | ramoz: ? |
| 17:18.43 | ramoz | whoa |
| 17:18.46 | ramoz | im lagging with 9 hrs |
| 17:18.47 | ramoz | nvm |
| 17:18.51 | ramoz | was scrolled up |
| 17:20.04 | ckknight | local WotLK = not not ToggleAchievementFrame |
| 17:20.07 | ckknight | works well enough |
| 17:20.07 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78791 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated Blacklist |
| 17:20.55 | [Ammo] | check version of game instead of a hack liek that? |
| 17:22.44 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78792 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - make chat input handling work with WotLK |
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| 17:31.22 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78793 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - fix issue with ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler hook and WotLK |
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| 17:35.43 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78794 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - set the hooks to pass in all arguments. |
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| 17:40.43 | raegx | ...for some reason in the FrameXML.log.....my mod just shows an event of "(null)" and doesn't load, any ideas what would cause that? |
| 17:41.02 | raegx | or ways to track down what is causing it |
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| 17:53.26 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert 07Parrot (newCombatLog) * r78795 10Parrot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:53.26 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 17:53.26 | CIA-45 | - remove unneeded comments |
| 17:53.26 | CIA-45 | - make more use of global vars, replacing some localisations |
| 17:53.26 | CIA-45 | - add DAMAGE_SHIELD-events (reactive skills like Retri-aura) |
| 17:53.27 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78796 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot: Fix nil error for Shadow+Nature damagetype |
| 17:54.33 | Saroz | two Parrot brances |
| 17:54.38 | Saroz | *sigh* |
| 17:54.59 | raegx | hey saroz |
| 17:55.04 | Saroz | hi |
| 17:55.18 | raegx | do you know what would cause a mod to not load and show "(null)" as an event in the FrameXML.log? |
| 17:55.25 | raegx | my mod just .... stopped working |
| 17:55.30 | Saroz | hrm dunno |
| 17:55.34 | Saroz | debug it :p |
| 17:55.45 | raegx | trying but I don't know where else to get information from |
| 17:55.57 | raegx | that log has always show syntax errors... |
| 17:56.02 | raegx | shown* |
| 17:57.54 | Saroz | make sure your game shows lua errors |
| 17:58.22 | raegx | yea it does. Wonder if Swatter is doing anything |
| 17:58.31 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78797 10LibRockConsole-1.0/LibRockConsole-1.0.lua: LibRockConsole-1.0 - fix to have chat input work in WotLK |
| 17:59.42 | stew_a | at what point should you start worrying about the state of a dvd drive? when it sounds like a vacuum cleaner or when it sounds like a small motorbike? |
| 18:00.02 | raegx | hehe |
| 18:00.10 | raegx | mine is getting loud too, I just ignore it |
| 18:00.40 | stew_a | so do i normally but when its in a laptop on your lap its infintely more noticable :-) |
| 18:00.46 | Stanzilla | what's the DK classcolor? |
| 18:00.56 | stew_a | red for DKs isnt it? |
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| 18:03.19 | raegx | sigh i found it.....global definition was messed up. I defined a nested table as globalVar = { verions="", name="", roster= { ..., alt{} } } |
| 18:03.27 | raegx | missing alt = {} |
| 18:03.28 | raegx | =( |
| 18:03.54 | ckknight | it's a slightly bluish red |
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| 18:04.45 | Stanzilla | cool |
| 18:05.48 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78798 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - use SetNormalFontObject instead of SetTextFontObject if in WotLK |
| 18:06.52 | aestil | vithos: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33492 two agi gems or should i get the socket bonus with an agi/stam gem? |
| 18:07.04 | aestil | [agi stam gem is much easier to come by, gbank has a bunch.] |
| 18:08.15 | selckin | do the math |
| 18:08.25 | Gnarfoz | mhh |
| 18:08.40 | Gnarfoz | maybe someone here knows this, with floating combat text addon authors and the like around: |
| 18:08.52 | Gnarfoz | is it somehow possible to increase a fontstring's font size above 24? |
| 18:15.44 | vithos | aestil: either way is fine, i make choices like that based mostly on planning for how to keep 2 blue gems for the meta |
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| 18:18.45 | KriLL3 | does anyone know why cooldowntimers2 refuses to stack bars upwards? grow downwards is unticked, ticking it doesn't change anything |
| 18:18.48 | vithos | probably lean towards 2 agi gems for that piece, 6 ap socket bonus is pretty weak |
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| 18:20.16 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78799 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 18:20.16 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:20.16 | CIA-45 | - Fix ticket 27 with error messages popping up with skillet/ATSW and when you reslect a trade skill |
| 18:26.09 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78800 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: |
| 18:26.09 | CIA-45 | LibTourist-3.0 - add a time check for highlights. |
| 18:26.09 | CIA-45 | This occurs in WotLK when it can't find Lake Wintergrasp. (probably to be fixed in a later patch) |
| 18:26.46 | Saroz | [2008/07/20 20:12:00-9-x874]: AceEvent-2.0-66043:369: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message --- |
| 18:26.49 | Saroz | I keep getting this |
| 18:26.50 | Saroz | why |
| 18:27.05 | ckknight | you're sending non-UTF8 data? |
| 18:27.14 | Saroz | no idea |
| 18:27.16 | Saroz | must be some addon |
| 18:27.24 | Saroz | annoying as shit, cant trace it |
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| 18:29.24 | Saroz | get it 1032 times in a row |
| 18:29.25 | Saroz | :| |
| 18:29.41 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78801 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - breaking out of two loops should be easier than this. |
| 18:30.00 | Ackis | mmm froot loops |
| 18:30.47 | Ackis | question: do externals have to be from another svn, or can I say that a file on a web-site is my external? |
| 18:31.06 | ckknight | svn |
| 18:32.46 | Saroz | [2008/07/20 20:14:39-9-x5]: LibRockLocale-1.0-6758:436: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) --- |
| 18:33.49 | CIA-45 | 03Tunga * r78802 10BuffBot/BuffBot.lua: |
| 18:33.49 | CIA-45 | BuffBot: |
| 18:33.49 | CIA-45 | * Rewrote lots of code |
| 18:33.50 | CIA-45 | * Added update throttling |
| 18:33.50 | CIA-45 | * Added Tooltips with names |
| 18:33.50 | CIA-45 | * Added parent frame |
| 18:33.52 | CIA-45 | * Added frame dragging |
| 18:34.25 | ckknight | did Blizz change the way OptionalDeps work in WotLK? |
| 18:35.13 | KriLL3 | why can't classtimers track shadowmeld, prowl |
| 18:35.23 | CIA-45 | 03Tunga * r78803 10BuffBot/BuffBot.toc: |
| 18:35.23 | CIA-45 | BuffBot: |
| 18:35.23 | CIA-45 | * Tidied the TOC a bit. |
| 18:35.45 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: what for? lol they're indefinite duration |
| 18:35.53 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78804 10LibRockLocale-1.0/LibRockLocale-1.0.lua: LibRockLocale-1.0 - fix a possible bug in an error message |
| 18:35.57 | KriLL3 | that's not that the addon does |
| 18:35.59 | Gnarfoz | (and actually, I think it could if you entered them as custom buffs?) |
| 18:36.00 | KriLL3 | it tracks cooldowns |
| 18:36.03 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 18:36.08 | Gnarfoz | ClassTimer doesn't track cooldowns |
| 18:36.11 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 18:36.27 | Trell | necb does |
| 18:36.29 | Gnarfoz | it does the opposite oO |
| 18:36.34 | Trell | classtimer isn't meant to track cooldowns |
| 18:36.45 | Trell | that being said, I do <3 classtimer :P |
| 18:37.33 | KriLL3 | oh... I'll switch back to CDT2 then, even though they're a bit borken |
| 18:38.02 | Primer | can someone recommend a buff deficit addon? |
| 18:38.19 | Primer | something that'll report who in the raid is missing which buffs? |
| 18:39.23 | Gnarfoz | BigBrother <3 |
| 18:41.54 | Primer | thanks |
| 18:43.32 | Primer | BTW, there's no filter for "glowcap" in cartographer herbalism |
| 18:44.01 | Ackis | lua> foo="StuffNumber55,555MoreStuff";patternmatch = "(%d,%d%d%d)";_,_,temp = string.find(foo, patternmatch);print(temp) |
| 18:44.01 | lua_bot | Ackis: 5,555 |
| 18:44.14 | Ackis | lua> foo="StuffNumber55,555MoreStuff";patternmatch = "(%d.,%d.)";_,_,temp = string.find(foo, patternmatch);print(temp) |
| 18:44.14 | lua_bot | Ackis: 55,55 |
| 18:44.25 | Ackis | hmm |
| 18:44.25 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78805 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - don't fail on zones that we don't have data on yet (e.g. Northrend stuff) |
| 18:44.48 | Ackis | I'm after a regexp that will let me get xx,xxx or xxx where x are numbers with any sort of text around them |
| 18:47.16 | Ackis | ~regexp |
| 18:47.16 | purl | from memory, regexp is [regexp] a regular expression. It is widly used in UN*X for matching strings. or see man pages regex(7) and regex(3) or a common theological proof for the existence of evil, or a subroutine in Njaard (see njaard), or man perlre |
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| 18:48.07 | Ackis | lua> foo="StuffNumber55,555MoreStuff";patternmatch = "(%d*,%d*)";_,_,temp = string.find(foo, patternmatch);print(temp) |
| 18:48.08 | lua_bot | Ackis: 55,555 |
| 18:48.10 | Ackis | ahahah |
| 18:48.16 | Ackis | lua> foo="StuffNumber555,555MoreStuff";patternmatch = "(%d*,%d*)";_,_,temp = string.find(foo, patternmatch);print(temp) |
| 18:48.16 | lua_bot | Ackis: 555,555 |
| 18:48.23 | Ackis | lua> foo="StuffNumber555MoreStuff";patternmatch = "(%d*,%d*)";_,_,temp = string.find(foo, patternmatch);print(temp) |
| 18:48.23 | lua_bot | Ackis: nil |
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| 18:49.07 | Ackis | lua> foo="StuffNumber555MoreStuff";patternmatch = "(%d*%,?%d*)";_,_,temp = string.find(foo, patternmatch);print(temp) |
| 18:49.08 | lua_bot | Ackis: No output |
| 18:49.12 | Ackis | lua> foo="StuffNumber555MoreStuff";patternmatch = "(%d*,?%d*)";_,_,temp = string.find(foo, patternmatch);print(temp) |
| 18:49.12 | lua_bot | Ackis: No output |
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| 18:49.49 | Ackis | I wished lua bot would let me send messages |
| 18:51.22 | Ackis | lua> foo="StuffNumber555MoreStuff";patternmatch = "(%d*[,]?%d*)";_,_,temp = string.find(foo, patternmatch);print(temp) |
| 18:51.23 | lua_bot | Ackis: No output |
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| 18:51.54 | Camci | any idea what addon prevents me from seeing peoples items when i inspect? ^^ |
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| 18:53.23 | ckknight | woo, Cartographer3 works in WotLK |
| 18:53.26 | ckknight | enough so, at least |
| 18:53.35 | Ackis | lol grats |
| 18:53.42 | Ackis | needs beta key still |
| 18:55.17 | CIA-45 | tekability: 03Tekkub 07master * rad017e6 10/: Make data refresh on every event, since we now (potentially) have an always-up frame |
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| 18:56.03 | Azurewrath | i second that Ackis ;) |
| 18:56.03 | Ackis | heh |
| 18:56.36 | raegx | lua> =5 |
| 18:56.37 | lua_bot | raegx: 5 |
| 18:56.39 | raegx | hehe |
| 18:56.40 | raegx | nice |
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| 18:57.58 | Hirsute | Hey, I saw an article about the retiring of WAU that mentioned the CurseForge updater would be used in its place. Is the CurseForge updater already able to handle Ace addons? |
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| 18:58.38 | SunTsu | Hirsute: JWU is |
| 18:58.42 | ckknight | it's called the Curse Client |
| 18:58.55 | ckknight | and yes, Hirsute, it is now through a hack and later will be fully supported |
| 18:59.05 | Gnarfoz | Azurewrath: 3rd'd |
| 18:59.20 | Hirsute | SunTsu: Thanks. ckknight: Thanks, I'm not a curse user as of now, so I'm just starting to get ready to change the way I handle my addons. |
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| 18:59.59 | ckknight | Hirsute: as a dev, it'd be like using curseforge now, only with a wowace theme and secluded from the other parts |
| 19:00.12 | ckknight | as a user, things change much more, with files.wowace.com going away |
| 19:00.26 | Hirsute | Makes plenty of sense. |
| 19:00.54 | Hirsute | Another updater that I saw mentioned was WUU. What's the feeling amongst the Ace crowd about 3rd party updaters like JWU and WUU? |
| 19:01.26 | Hirsute | Assuming JWU is a 3rd party updater, I'm actually looking that one up right now. |
| 19:01.44 | ckknight | well, the thing WAU has going for it is that it has an ad, which helps pay for bandwidth costs |
| 19:01.56 | ckknight | granted, that's not enough to cover it, which is the main reason for the drastic change |
| 19:02.09 | ckknight | k, I'm gonna watch Doctor Who |
| 19:02.10 | Gnarfoz | looking for someone with WoW FontString experience... >_> why can't I make a font larger than 24pt? is ther any way to scale it beyond that that I'm missing? |
| 19:02.15 | ckknight | cya all in a bit |
| 19:02.25 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: not to my knowledge |
| 19:02.26 | Hirsute | Have fun |
| 19:02.36 | Azurewrath | i personally liked WAU2 the most.. but since the latest java update it wont even start.. |
| 19:03.20 | raegx | mine crashes randomly |
| 19:03.21 | Hirsute | Will JWU shift over to pulling the files from curse when files.wowace.com goes away? |
| 19:03.29 | raegx | if i'm fast enough i can update =D |
| 19:03.45 | profalbert | jwu is maintained by rolfba |
| 19:04.13 | Hirsute | profalbert: In other words, ask him? |
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| 19:04.29 | profalbert | he isn't really in the community afaik |
| 19:04.36 | profalbert | but yes |
| 19:04.37 | Hirsute | Gotcha |
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| 19:19.05 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78806 10Querier/ (DownloadCount.lua Querier.lua Querier.toc): |
| 19:19.05 | CIA-45 | Querier: |
| 19:19.05 | CIA-45 | - Up to version 1.3 |
| 19:19.05 | CIA-45 | - Add download count |
| 19:19.05 | CIA-45 | - Fix bug when no parameters are passed on a spell query |
| 19:23.22 | selckin | does anyone have some 2.4.3 combatlogs for me? preferably full(ish) runs of bt/mh/sunwell ? |
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| 19:24.01 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78807 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc DownloadCount.lua): |
| 19:24.01 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:24.01 | CIA-45 | - Update download counts |
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| 19:29.18 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78808 10AltTabber/ (AltTabber.toc DownloadCount.lua): |
| 19:29.18 | CIA-45 | AltTabber: |
| 19:29.18 | CIA-45 | - Updated download count |
| 19:29.18 | CIA-45 | - Version 1.11 |
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| 19:33.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 19:33.47 | thul | aww. the fight! |
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| 19:35.32 | Daemona | uh Ackis what does AltTabber do? ;) (too lazy to lookup on fisheye |
| 19:35.57 | thul | http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs32/i/2008/202/d/7/Single_flower_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- image of the day |
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| 19:38.31 | Daemona | thul -> my choice -> http://www.nruediger.kilu.de/wiese_nebel_pano_wp.jpg |
| 19:39.01 | Stanzilla | ^ wtb in 1920x1200 plx |
| 19:39.57 | Daemona | Stanzilla -> http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/private.php?do=newpm&u=9658 |
| 19:39.59 | Daemona | ask for it ;) |
| 19:40.10 | Daemona | but you have to register |
| 19:40.13 | thul | Daemona: how long exposure? 4-5 minutes? or was it strong winds? |
| 19:40.26 | Stanzilla | cba to register^^ |
| 19:40.29 | Daemona | its a night pic, i assume long exposure |
| 19:40.43 | thul | ah, I thought it was your pic :-P nevermind. |
| 19:41.07 | Daemona | its a forum that says it deals "with boys that have too much money for toys" the photo guys to a montly shootout on best pics |
| 19:41.12 | Daemona | and that one won in june |
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| 19:41.45 | Daemona | its great to read the forum, but suxx not being able to afford most stuff ;) |
| 19:42.01 | Daemona | like putting a bladecenter in the basement for rendering, cause you can ... |
| 19:42.02 | Daemona | o.O |
| 19:42.48 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78809 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 19:42.48 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 19:42.48 | CIA-45 | - Typo fixed |
| 19:45.26 | Xuerian | Daemona: Holy crap do like |
| 19:46.36 | Daemona | the bladecenter or the pic? |
| 19:46.47 | Daemona | source is http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=507758 btw, i had to ask for 1690x1050 ;) |
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| 19:48.47 | Zhinjio | I think I like "Platz" the best of those. |
| 19:48.54 | Zhinjio | thats some great perspective. |
| 19:49.38 | thul | if not for the artificial feeling light, I would have liked the bench picture |
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| 19:51.15 | Daemona | Zhinjio ...Platz is german for place ,) |
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| 19:51.30 | thul | potsdamer platz |
| 19:51.33 | thul | for instance |
| 19:51.33 | thul | :-P |
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| 19:52.45 | Zhinjio | I'm austrian, and well aware. THanks *grin* |
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| 19:53.12 | thul | Anschluss! |
| 19:53.13 | Stanzilla | omg austrian! |
| 19:53.34 | Zhinjio | yeah, well... not everyone can be so charming. *grin* |
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| 19:53.44 | Dezzimal | anyone here using any ace addons on beta? |
| 19:54.16 | Ackis | you are? |
| 19:54.46 | profalbert | another austrian here :P |
| 19:55.21 | Gnarfoz | they're fucking invading the place! |
| 19:55.23 | Dezzimal | Ackis: yeah I'm just seeing if a few simple ones work |
| 19:55.29 | Dezzimal | chatter etc |
| 19:55.37 | Dezzimal | maybe cartographer |
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| 19:55.47 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: you better watch out :P |
| 19:56.10 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: nah, I'm fine ^_^ |
| 19:56.49 | Zhinjio | thats why I moved to Colorado. I had to get close to the mountains again. |
| 19:56.52 | Zhinjio | its in my blood. |
| 19:57.12 | Zhinjio | but yeah, I was born in Vienna. |
| 19:57.12 | Dezzimal | I actually can't even get ingame with cartographer :/ |
| 19:57.29 | Chompers | was there ever a fix for the feign death resist bug in omen? |
| 19:57.40 | Gnarfoz | what bug would that be |
| 19:57.45 | Gnarfoz | hunters not using FD? |
| 19:58.07 | Chompers | hunter uses fd and the boss resists it, omen still counts it as going through |
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| 19:58.19 | Dezzimal | if the resist message is displayed |
| 19:58.22 | Dezzimal | omen picks up on it |
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| 19:58.25 | Chompers | so the threat is dropped, leading to the hunter stealing |
| 19:58.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
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| 19:58.42 | Dezzimal | what you're thinking of is not an omen issue |
| 19:58.43 | Gnarfoz | he just has to stay down a bit longer than omen needs to pick it up |
| 19:59.03 | Gnarfoz | because omen is not bound by latency in that case. stay down for 3-4 secs and it should actually reset your threat server-side, too |
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| 20:03.24 | CIA-45 | 03belazor * r78810 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.lua: |
| 20:03.24 | CIA-45 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:03.24 | CIA-45 | - Fixing locale error |
| 20:03.50 | Ackis | any ace3 mods that have localizations in the main file? |
| 20:05.54 | KriLL3 | bah, should I buy [Slikk's Cloak of Placation] or should I save up to [Angelista's Revenge] and then get the cloak?... :< |
| 20:05.57 | Saroz | how do I trace this down: |
| 20:05.58 | Saroz | [2008/07/20 20:45:55-10-x3764]: AceEvent-2.0-66043:369: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message --- |
| 20:06.01 | Saroz | got x4000 of them |
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| 20:06.27 | charon | KriLL3: i guess that depends on whether you want to tank or dps? |
| 20:06.52 | KriLL3 | I'm tank 99% of the time in heroics, I'm mostly into pvp though and there I'm a kitten |
| 20:06.54 | KriLL3 | thus why I'm torn |
| 20:07.17 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Slikk |
| 20:07.18 | KriLL3 | perhaps I should get the cloak, would make me a better tank and thus make it easier to get the marks I want for my pvp gear... |
| 20:07.42 | SunTsu | KriLL3: It's the best tanking cloak in the game |
| 20:07.46 | KriLL3 | yeah I know |
| 20:07.54 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78811 10Doodle/Doodle.lua: |
| 20:07.55 | CIA-45 | Doodle: |
| 20:07.55 | CIA-45 | - Fix nil error |
| 20:10.03 | odt | spellreminder is broken :( |
| 20:11.41 | KriLL3 | 12 agi or 12 def... hmm... |
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| 20:12.23 | charon | agi unless you're not crit immune |
| 20:12.38 | SunTsu | seconded |
| 20:12.56 | KriLL3 | 426 def 24954 armor |
| 20:13.08 | SunTsu | KriLL3: That's 11 def too much |
| 20:13.10 | charon | 415 is enough, drop the rest if you can |
| 20:13.14 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 20:13.44 | KriLL3 | I'll switch my def and stam gem to a stam one |
| 20:15.05 | FinalX | you dont need that much defense if you have resilience, it's what makes the pvp set so nice. |
| 20:15.15 | SunTsu | I was in Karazhan yesterday with a feral as tank. He had 425 def and 110 resilience - he thought he needed both to be crit immune |
| 20:15.17 | FinalX | the agi of the pvp set makes up for the loss of avoidance with a lot of +dodge |
| 20:15.21 | KriLL3 | I got 174 res |
| 20:15.31 | KriLL3 | 8.83% crit reduction |
| 20:15.38 | SunTsu | KriLL3: 92 resilience is enough to be uncrittable in pve |
| 20:15.40 | KriLL3 | no 4.41 |
| 20:15.43 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 20:15.48 | FinalX | KriLL3: you need to make up for 2.60% crit with defense or resilience, as you have 3% from survival of the fittest already |
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| 20:16.02 | FinalX | you need 5.60% in total |
| 20:16.02 | KriLL3 | so I'm way overboard on def? |
| 20:16.04 | SunTsu | FinalX: At least he should have |
| 20:16.06 | FinalX | 3% from talents |
| 20:16.20 | FinalX | (if you dont have those talents you should be ashamed of yourself, if you're serious about pve tanking :P) |
| 20:16.29 | Xuerian | srsly. |
| 20:16.30 | KriLL3 | I got 3.04% from def and 8.83% from res |
| 20:16.41 | FinalX | drop the defense and go for agi |
| 20:16.42 | Arrowmaster | ~lart sb |
| 20:16.42 | purl | pours gasoline all over sb, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 20:16.44 | sb | errrr |
| 20:16.46 | sb | sorry :( |
| 20:16.47 | FinalX | 14.75 agi = 1% dodge |
| 20:16.55 | sb | wrong window :( |
| 20:17.02 | KriLL3 | yes ofc I got it |
| 20:17.04 | Xuerian | Agility is love. |
| 20:17.12 | FinalX | and crit, and ap, and armor... etc |
| 20:17.21 | KriLL3 | the only think I don't like about agi is that too much = dodge everything and no rage |
| 20:17.27 | SunTsu | KriLL3: You should decide whether you want to go the +resil way or the +def way |
| 20:17.36 | Xuerian | You'd think so, but bosses hit damn hard |
| 20:17.41 | KriLL3 | well most of my good tanking gear is pvp sets |
| 20:17.42 | Xuerian | And with more agi you crit more |
| 20:17.42 | Ackis | I got pinged |
| 20:17.43 | Ackis | rawr |
| 20:17.44 | Xuerian | With more crit you gt more rage |
| 20:17.50 | SunTsu | KriLL3: If you go resilience you have to stack up agility as much as you can get |
| 20:17.56 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 20:18.17 | Xuerian | Rage almost is never a worry unless you can't lacerate. Then you has problem. |
| 20:18.33 | KriLL3 | mangle gives a nice dmg boost |
| 20:18.46 | KriLL3 | does a whole lot of threat and improves lacerate |
| 20:18.58 | Xuerian | Of course |
| 20:19.08 | Xuerian | Also gives you a very nice buff if you have the idol. |
| 20:19.13 | FinalX | with defense, parry/block go to waste, agility is easily gotten on feral gear, especially pvp set is nice for it, and stacks quicker than defense..resilience also reduces damage over time taken from things like bear boss in ZA |
| 20:19.28 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Yeah, mostly aggro rotation is to use mangle whenever it's cd is up and lacerate inbetween |
| 20:19.37 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 20:19.42 | Xuerian | FinalX: Were plans to make res ineffective in pvp ever finalizied or tossed definitively? |
| 20:19.47 | FinalX | and if you have spare rage, use maul; it doesn't share the cooldown with mangle |
| 20:19.57 | Xuerian | pve* |
| 20:20.06 | KriLL3 | and faerie fire and that aoe ap reduction I keep forgetting the name of when their durations are almost up |
| 20:20.20 | FinalX | tossed definitively afaik, using s1 pvp gear on my druid for tanking |
| 20:20.20 | SunTsu | KriLL3: demo roar |
| 20:20.21 | Xuerian | Demo roar |
| 20:20.21 | KriLL3 | if I got rage to burn I also maul |
| 20:20.25 | FinalX | agi+sta gem in all slots |
| 20:20.40 | Xuerian | FinalX: Hmm.. That's tasty |
| 20:20.58 | FinalX | you can easily get s2 gear now from honor which is even better..so :) |
| 20:21.06 | Ackis | Arrowmaster do my coding for me :( |
| 20:21.06 | KriLL3 | is it better to use agi and stam or use some agi and some stam? |
| 20:21.08 | Xuerian | Still miss idol of brutality :P |
| 20:21.43 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Do the math, whichever lands you more total |
| 20:22.03 | Xuerian | So long as you meet your meta anyway |
| 20:22.19 | SunTsu | KriLL3: You could play around with it in rawr |
| 20:22.49 | Xuerian | rawr is nice, but it takes teh fun out of things =\ |
| 20:22.52 | KriLL3 | agi + stam = 10 total, only stam = 12 only agi = 8... |
| 20:22.53 | Xuerian | is like sex by spreadsheet |
| 20:23.12 | KriLL3 | I guess I'll try to balance it |
| 20:23.20 | KriLL3 | and fill slots with the right color if possible |
| 20:24.12 | FinalX | KriLL3: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Eihrister |
| 20:24.13 | FinalX | my druid |
| 20:24.24 | FinalX | dont use him much at the moment though, using my paladin on horde side mostly atm :p |
| 20:24.33 | FinalX | oh, and need to go home now... train leaving in 20 mins..bbl |
| 20:25.27 | KriLL3 | I got 2 sets of s2 gear |
| 20:25.55 | KriLL3 | except the items that doesn't have gems, they're just agi enchanted |
| 20:29.20 | Xuerian | How do you pvp that much -_- |
| 20:29.21 | KriLL3 | +16 def & +17 dodge or 18 stam & 20 res btw? |
| 20:29.41 | KriLL3 | I mainly pvp and tank some places to get the badges to get better pvp gear =P |
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| 20:31.33 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Imp motw? |
| 20:31.38 | KriLL3 | nope |
| 20:31.41 | SunTsu | KriLL3: You are already over resil cap for pve |
| 20:31.45 | Xuerian | Oh, that's final |
| 20:31.48 | Xuerian | greh why... |
| 20:32.07 | Xuerian | -impmotw +shredding/primalten |
| 20:32.11 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: yes but I'm also over def, what's better dodge or stam? |
| 20:32.26 | SunTsu | KriLL3: That depends on how much you have |
| 20:32.33 | Xuerian | SunTsu: Anotherwords, he's dobule-stacking his condoms. |
| 20:32.36 | KriLL3 | 18k hp |
| 20:33.04 | KriLL3 | wait, 16k |
| 20:33.15 | KriLL3 | had priest buff on me |
| 20:33.21 | KriLL3 | 16614 |
| 20:33.24 | KriLL3 | only self buffed |
| 20:33.35 | SunTsu | KriLL3: That's quite good |
| 20:34.15 | SunTsu | KriLL3: How much dodge do you have? |
| 20:34.27 | KriLL3 | 31.88% |
| 20:34.41 | SunTsu | Then I'd go dodge |
| 20:34.46 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 20:34.59 | SunTsu | Stamina is buffed more easily |
| 20:36.00 | KriLL3 | I'm sending the mats needed from my alts for 12 agi on cloak so I'll have some more dodge soon |
| 20:36.30 | KriLL3 | I set up a full set of level 1 alts that handle different stuff back when bank slots got more and more expensive |
| 20:36.36 | KriLL3 | got 5 |
| 20:36.49 | KriLL3 | cloth, metal, ench, random, consumables |
| 20:36.52 | KriLL3 | :> |
| 20:37.29 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I don't have space for a bank alt, the only available slot is reserved for the death knight ;) |
| 20:37.37 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 20:37.56 | KriLL3 | I'll delete my level 12 dranaei paladin before WOTLK comes out |
| 20:38.16 | KriLL3 | got a 40~ warrior 60 rogue and 31 shaman also |
| 20:38.42 | KriLL3 | cba leveling em up, it's so damn odd playing another class, you try to do druid stuff all the time |
| 20:39.41 | SunTsu | Well, right now I have a lvl70 feral druid, a 70's rogue, mage, warlock and hunter ;) Paladin, warror and shaman are on the makee ;) |
| 20:39.53 | SunTsu | s/ee/e/ |
| 20:39.55 | KriLL3 | I got one level 70, my feral druid |
| 20:40.00 | KriLL3 | had him since the start of the game |
| 20:40.17 | Hjalte | Can anyone confirm that pets can make Kalecgos skip portals? Or will it not help dismissing them? |
| 20:40.25 | SunTsu | Yeah, the druid was my first toon, too |
| 20:40.28 | KriLL3 | though he was resto/bal when leveling up to 60 and only became feral after I got tired of BWL raiding |
| 20:41.04 | KriLL3 | leveling to 60 with feral dmg about equivalent to a soggy cardboard box falling on your head was fun... |
| 20:41.26 | KriLL3 | *starfire* *root* *moonfire* *wrath* repeat |
| 20:42.05 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78812 10AltTabber/ (. AltTabber.lua AltTabber.toc embeds.xml): |
| 20:42.05 | CIA-45 | AltTabber: |
| 20:42.05 | CIA-45 | - Updated download count |
| 20:42.05 | CIA-45 | - Added ability to localize |
| 20:42.05 | CIA-45 | - Fixed externals |
| 20:42.06 | CIA-45 | - Removed a piece of unneeded code |
| 20:42.08 | CIA-45 | - Version 1.2 |
| 20:42.22 | CIA-45 | 03gagorian * r78813 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 20:42.22 | CIA-45 | DrDamage: |
| 20:42.22 | CIA-45 | - Additional code alteration for Dominos support. |
| 20:43.38 | KriLL3 | almost got a whole % dodge from those 12 agi :) |
| 20:44.24 | KriLL3 | heh got exactly 25k armor, what's the odds of that? |
| 20:45.11 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: wtf did you localize in alttabber and make it bigger for? |
| 20:45.13 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Feral? Underpowered leveling? You must be smoking crack >_> |
| 20:45.28 | SunTsu | KriLL3: You should try to get up to around 30k armor |
| 20:45.29 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i would rather you reduce it to like 3 lines total |
| 20:46.00 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: start of the game... |
| 20:46.15 | Xuerian | KriLL3: I was leveling when the talents were re-done, probably around 40 at thetime |
| 20:46.20 | KriLL3 | a kitten vs ghostwolf = ghostwolf won |
| 20:46.37 | KriLL3 | we did more dmg in caster with a good mace than we did in catform |
| 20:46.44 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Both look better with the retexture :P |
| 20:46.57 | SunTsu | I was feral right from the start and besides having to learn the game it was easy as cake |
| 20:46.58 | Xuerian | KriLL3: That's why bear was great |
| 20:47.02 | KriLL3 | it was a mobile shadowmeld, bearform had a bit more armor but couldn't tank by a long shot |
| 20:47.06 | Xuerian | Same as Sun here |
| 20:47.37 | SunTsu | Except raids because it was a tough fight not to be counted and used as a healer |
| 20:47.54 | Xuerian | Haha, offhealing was fun |
| 20:48.05 | Xuerian | Plop on a dress, get bored, go around and hump corpses |
| 20:48.10 | KriLL3 | well that's the only role druids were good at before feral and balance to their rewamps |
| 20:48.13 | Xuerian | (see MC as Feral vid on youtube >_>) |
| 20:48.32 | KriLL3 | I did MC and BWL as resto since that's what you had to be |
| 20:48.53 | SunTsu | Xuerian: Sure, but not as a full healer "Use innovation on xy!" "I already used it on me" "Well, just spare it for a priest" "But then I am standing around OOM all of the time" "Then use mana pots" |
| 20:49.20 | Xuerian | SunTsu: Lol, exactly |
| 20:49.34 | Xuerian | It'd be boring playing a class that could do what was expected of if :) |
| 20:49.39 | Arrowmaster | i beleve that mc vid of a corpse humping druid has him using innervate on other healers when they go oom |
| 20:49.52 | VonhintenHOME` | Do all these new attack speed reductions work on raid bosses? |
| 20:49.54 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Fine, nit pick, just find the video and link it:P |
| 20:50.05 | Arrowmaster | Xuerian: lol totally agree |
| 20:50.32 | KriLL3 | ah yes we were the mobile mana pool |
| 20:50.44 | Arrowmaster | it would be boring to zone into a 5v5 and fear lock all 5 members of the other team at once like some people expect me to |
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| 20:51.21 | Xuerian | KriLL3: In a cruel turn of events, now priests' offspec has taken our role |
| 20:52.02 | SunTsu | I really love BC for making feral druids a viable tank and DD |
| 20:52.14 | Xuerian | right before bc came out was best imo |
| 20:52.25 | Xuerian | For one single reason |
| 20:52.26 | KriLL3 | I wouldn't know, I haven't raided since my guild kicked me out after bwl got to farming status despite the fact I was on all wipefests previous, I had some feral talents, I didn't spend em all in resto... |
| 20:52.28 | Xuerian | well a couple.. |
| 20:52.44 | KriLL3 | the guild leader's shadow priest friend in blue pvp gear was allowed in though |
| 20:52.49 | Xuerian | Idol of Brutality and the threat/damage/crit modifiers on maul/claw/swipe |
| 20:53.54 | Xuerian | -claw >_> |
| 20:55.41 | KriLL3 | what's the point of claw anymore? |
| 20:56.11 | Xuerian | No point, and it's a kitty ability. Forgot that :P |
| 20:57.16 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that adds the required rating to tooltips of items? |
| 20:58.06 | Diao | i thought it was on the tooltip by default |
| 20:58.16 | KriLL3 | nope |
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| 20:58.30 | Diao | oh |
| 20:58.35 | Diao | nm, it's only when it's at the vendor |
| 20:58.42 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 20:58.46 | KriLL3 | and in atlasloot |
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| 21:18.37 | CIA-45 | 03scorpio0920 * r78815 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 21:18.37 | CIA-45 | StatLogicLib: |
| 21:18.37 | CIA-45 | - Try to fix IGNORE_ARMOR statistics for zhTW & zhCN. |
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| 21:31.33 | fewyn | Rawr, as an end-user what are the differences between running embedded libraries and externals? |
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| 21:33.18 | CrazyBenny_ | none |
| 21:33.20 | Zhinjio | fewyn: a shorter addons list |
| 21:34.27 | ckknight | externals give a better startup speed |
| 21:34.54 | Pkekyo| | STOP BEING SO GODDAMN PREGNANT YOU BASTARDS |
| 21:37.19 | Diao | oh wow |
| 21:37.29 | Diao | they added keybindings for targetting enemy players/friendly players only in the last patch |
| 21:37.38 | Diao | i guess i'll replace target previous with that |
| 21:37.41 | Diao | since i never use target previous |
| 21:38.21 | Saroz | whats the even called just before a player logs out? |
| 21:38.39 | Saroz | event |
| 21:39.56 | Shirik | there are several |
| 21:39.59 | Shirik | when do you want it called? |
| 21:40.15 | raegx | anyone know of place with the guildchat/whisper/etc spam limits? I have some reporting I don't want to do but not to dc |
| 21:40.16 | Saroz | when the player logs out, so I can save data to SavedVariables |
| 21:40.37 | Shirik | if you want your data to still be saveable, you want to use PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 21:41.09 | Saroz | oki thanks |
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| 21:44.01 | Saroz | Shirik, is that called when reloading UI aswell? |
| 21:44.11 | Shirik | yes |
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| 21:46.11 | CIA-45 | 03orionshock * r78816 10GuildCraft/DBO.lua: GuildCraft: nil check in dbo |
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| 21:48.11 | Corveroth | Hmm. Haven't really looked into it, but would it be possible to get target-of information on nameplates? |
| 21:49.06 | Dezzimal | speaking of nameplates |
| 21:49.11 | Dezzimal | is there an updated version of aloft? |
| 21:49.16 | Dezzimal | or an alternative? |
| 21:50.14 | KriLL3 | is it possible to add something to pitbull frames or something stand alone that adds either a text or icon showing the spec of your target? |
| 21:51.12 | Stanzilla | dogtags? |
| 21:51.45 | KriLL3 | ? |
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| 22:01.09 | qwesto | yes, dogtags, [TalentSpec] shows as "0/21/40" for example, and [TalentTree] shows as "Holy" or "Arcane/Frost" etc |
| 22:02.00 | KriLL3 | I have no idea what dogtags is |
| 22:02.50 | qwesto | all textfields in PitBull, CowTip (and maybe something else too) are built up by dogtags |
| 22:02.54 | qwesto | http://wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-3.0 |
| 22:03.27 | KriLL3 | I just write what you said into the custom field? |
| 22:03.34 | KriLL3 | or do I need additional addons etc? |
| 22:03.42 | qwesto | nope, no additional addons |
| 22:03.45 | KriLL3 | nice |
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| 22:05.20 | Shirik | nevcairiel: ping |
| 22:05.25 | CIA-45 | 03toadkiller * r78817 10AutoBar/AutoBarOptions.lua: |
| 22:05.25 | CIA-45 | AutoBar: |
| 22:05.25 | CIA-45 | -- Fix New Category Item Button. |
| 22:05.26 | nevcairiel | pong |
| 22:06.01 | KriLL3 | will there be a bt4 fubar tie in? |
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| 22:06.27 | KriLL3 | I miss shift clicking the icon in fubar to move my bars |
| 22:06.54 | vithos | you move them that often? |
| 22:07.39 | KriLL3 | no |
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| 22:17.53 | J^H | anyone seen problems with wowaceupdater on vista... mine keeps crashing and i tried reinstall and all i could find on forum |
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| 22:19.52 | Xuerian | J^H: WAU is going away soon anyway |
| 22:20.07 | J^H | oh.. hmm.. |
| 22:20.13 | J^H | being replaced or ? |
| 22:20.14 | Cheads | J^H: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14320.0 |
| 22:21.15 | Xuerian | J^H: In a quick summary, there won't be (right off, anyway, or without donation) a updater to pull dev versions of addons - Releases will be made much easier from wowace for devs, and that way other updaters will suffice |
| 22:21.21 | Xuerian | Read the thread tho. >_> |
| 22:21.57 | J^H | Cheads ah thats a nice fix ,) |
| 22:23.49 | Xuerian | J^H: The thread I was talking about: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 |
| 22:24.05 | J^H | Xuerian will read |
| 22:27.29 | CIA-45 | tekability: 03Tekkub 07master * rc0de7a2 10/: Use min durability instead of average. |
| 22:30.30 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r0639350 10/: Add in LDB launcher with AddonLoader support |
| 22:30.31 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r9509c67 10/: |
| 22:30.31 | CIA-45 | tourguide: Merge branch 'launcher' |
| 22:30.31 | CIA-45 | tourguide: Conflicts: |
| 22:30.31 | CIA-45 | tourguide: Config.lua |
| 22:30.53 | Xuerian | WoW needs a Launchy addon.. |
| 22:31.11 | Xuerian | Also, rebuttals of "Chat entry" can diaf |
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| 22:31.57 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r90c6fc2 10/: Tweak launcher to new spec |
| 22:37.12 | CIA-45 | 03xiu * r78818 10Wishlist/ (Wishlist-enUS.lua Wishlist.lua): |
| 22:37.12 | CIA-45 | Wishlist: |
| 22:37.12 | CIA-45 | - Added option Show All, so it keeps show requirements even if they are done (usefull for marks so you can see how many are left to trade in for honor) |
| 22:39.15 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: I'm getting some error from mobspells if you want 'em |
| 22:39.17 | Arrowmaster | 18:38:24 [2. Trade] [Ãurst]: Anyone know a WotLK Beta Private server? (I alredy DLed the actual cliant) |
| 22:39.56 | Tenchworks | well that's blatantly asking for a ban |
| 22:40.42 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 22:40.44 | nevcairiel | classic |
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| 22:41.47 | nevcairiel | oh well, off to bed with me, 'nite! |
| 22:43.28 | Xuerian | 'night |
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| 22:51.55 | aestil | vithos: i think ima gem for the blue gem in there. |
| 22:52.09 | aestil | even if i end up not needing it, i won't have to regem, and its not the worst possible socket bonus. |
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| 22:58.28 | aestil | my wife is now a shadow priest, she wants a dot timer, beyond the functionality of quartz_buffs what are her options? |
| 22:58.39 | [dRaCo] | DoTimer |
| 22:58.51 | aestil | thats it? |
| 22:59.01 | [dRaCo] | no, but the first I could think of |
| 22:59.06 | aestil | :) |
| 22:59.17 | [dRaCo] | what exactly does she want beyond quartz? |
| 23:00.03 | Diao | dotimer is terrible :( |
| 23:00.10 | Diao | classtimers isn't bad though |
| 23:00.45 | [dRaCo] | Elkano's BuffBars can be used for stuff like, that |
| 23:00.49 | [dRaCo] | highly configurable |
| 23:00.58 | Diao | necb is being taken up again |
| 23:01.00 | Diao | if you're into that |
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| 23:05.45 | KriLL3 | it's too much of a lump imo |
| 23:05.53 | KriLL3 | I prefer quartz + cdt2 |
| 23:06.07 | CIA-45 | 03ennuilg * r78819 10scorchio/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:06.07 | CIA-45 | scorchio: |
| 23:06.07 | CIA-45 | - Updated locales |
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| 23:06.57 | Daruhn | Hey there, could anybody maybe help me? I'm trying to write my first addon. |
| 23:07.53 | Quaiche | Daruhn: Did you start with one of the tutorials? |
| 23:08.22 | Daruhn | Yeah, they were kinda helpfull for basics but sorta skipped over what I needed to know |
| 23:08.33 | Quaiche | Which is...? |
| 23:09.11 | selckin | does anyone have some 2.4.3 combatlogs for me? preferably full(ish) runs of bt/mh/sunwell ? |
| 23:09.56 | Pkekyo| | most likely not? |
| 23:10.23 | Hjalte | selckin: I have 3 hours of sunwell wipes on Kalecgos |
| 23:10.30 | Hjalte | Oh wait. |
| 23:10.34 | Hjalte | I actually deleted that :P |
| 23:10.40 | Pkekyo| | x) |
| 23:10.45 | Daruhn | It's actually really simple, I just need to be able to display an image on the screen. |
| 23:10.50 | Pkekyo| | deleting evidence of your fail ftw |
| 23:10.59 | selckin | :) |
| 23:11.02 | CIA-45 | 03elsia * r78820 10Recount/Tracker.lua: |
| 23:11.02 | CIA-45 | Recount: |
| 23:11.02 | CIA-45 | - Dispels and Dispelled displays and details now also show offensive dispells like purge. |
| 23:11.16 | selckin | thanks anyway |
| 23:11.50 | Zhinjio | Daruhn: treat your "image" as the background for a frame, and then go back and re-read tutorials. |
| 23:12.12 | Daruhn | Ok, thanks. That'll help get me started |
| 23:12.20 | Zhinjio | also remember there are strict constraints around the images you can use |
| 23:12.31 | Zhinjio | size, type, layer, alpha channels, etc. |
| 23:12.46 | Zhinjio | nods |
| 23:13.02 | Neya | Green boxes everywhere! (Atleast that is how it looked when I tried to learn to use my own images:P) |
| 23:13.29 | Zhinjio | heh. mine just wouldn't show up at all |
| 23:13.35 | Zhinjio | of course,I was using discord at the time. |
| 23:13.47 | Zhinjio | now its all eepanels |
| 23:14.10 | Adys | What'd be a good library for scheduling timed events? I see AceEvent-3.0 doesn't support that anymore |
| 23:14.11 | Zhinjio | oh yeah, Daruhn : make sure there isn't already an addon that does what you want. no sense wasting alot of time writing something that already exists. |
| 23:14.31 | Daruhn | I've looked, I suppose it's just such a simple addon that nobody has bothered to make it yet lol |
| 23:14.54 | Zhinjio | you just want to display an image? thats it? |
| 23:16.12 | Daruhn | Pretty much lol. Basically I already have a pretty tricked out UI, I just want to display a little icon in the corner of my unitframes that I can lock in place. |
| 23:16.56 | Zhinjio | I assume the icon will display status of some sort |
| 23:17.02 | Zhinjio | what are you using for your unitframes? |
| 23:17.16 | Daruhn | No, just a picture, nothing else. I am using AGuf |
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| 23:17.36 | Zhinjio | well, it does way more than that, but eepanels2 will certainly do that. |
| 23:17.48 | Zhinjio | and you can anchor it to whatever frame you want |
| 23:18.15 | Ellipsis | sneaks up behind Zhinjio and tickles him |
| 23:18.20 | Daruhn | Ok cool, ty |
| 23:18.22 | Zhinjio | AAYYYEE! |
| 23:18.28 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 23:18.48 | Zhinjio | Daruhn: n |
| 23:18.53 | Zhinjio | np |
| 23:19.15 | Zhinjio | how're you, Ellipsis |
| 23:19.22 | Ellipsis | pretty good, and yourself? |
| 23:19.28 | Zhinjio | excellent. |
| 23:19.37 | Zhinjio | deep into the very last routine in my code before I release. |
| 23:19.43 | Zhinjio | so it should be out tonight if I can do some good testing |
| 23:20.35 | Zhinjio | ok, table management question... |
| 23:20.52 | Zhinjio | I'm writing the routine that is going to "repair" potentially corrupted tables. |
| 23:21.09 | Zhinjio | the most common corruption is a missing or nil entry (or entries) in the table |
| 23:21.17 | Zhinjio | table is numberically, sequentially indexed |
| 23:21.24 | Ellipsis | all this work to avoid having to debug what's causing the problem? :P |
| 23:21.38 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: wasn't there an update to SKG coming? :) |
| 23:21.43 | Zhinjio | I've already found about 4 different possible causes, and fixed those |
| 23:21.47 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: tonight. |
| 23:21.56 | NivFreak | hehe, always good on a raid night :) |
| 23:22.03 | Zhinjio | but I can't say with certwainty that those are th eonly problems. |
| 23:22.08 | Zhinjio | so, back to the question... |
| 23:22.27 | Zhinjio | I need to repair the table, and that will involve both checking existing entries for validity, as well as getting rid of "holes" |
| 23:23.02 | Zhinjio | I was originally thinking of looping on pairs() and just doing inserts when the data was valid |
| 23:23.12 | Zhinjio | but that will potentially leave even more holes (if I remove bad entries) |
| 23:23.25 | Zhinjio | I could then have a final step that removed holes I suppose. |
| 23:23.39 | Zhinjio | I can't really loop on 1..#list |
| 23:23.46 | Zhinjio | since that won't be trustworthy on a list with holes in it |
| 23:23.54 | Zhinjio | I guess maybe I'm just thinking out loud. |
| 23:23.56 | Zhinjio | soryr |
| 23:24.23 | NeoTron | so I'm installing OS X on my windows box (non-mac hardware)... and I go to create a partition and somehow Mac OS decides it would be a good idea to trash the whole parition table |
| 23:24.44 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: might be *late* tonight |
| 23:24.53 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 23:25.16 | NeoTron | unfortunately it was my main 450 GB data disk.. I guess it's a good thing I really don't have anything important on my windows box anyway >:-) |
| 23:25.47 | Zhinjio | mirroring ftw. |
| 23:25.57 | NeoTron | well whatever |
| 23:25.57 | Zhinjio | well, ... that wouldn't have helped that would it |
| 23:26.08 | NeoTron | cool thing is I'm using macos X on my pc |
| 23:26.11 | Zhinjio | it would have trashed the mirror as well |
| 23:26.20 | Zhinjio | nice. |
| 23:26.20 | profalbert | you can recover the data, if the partition-table is gone |
| 23:26.31 | Zhinjio | thats true too |
| 23:26.48 | profalbert | there are several tools, but all commercial i think |
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| 23:26.57 | Zhinjio | hmm, i used one free one awhile back... hmm. |
| 23:27.00 | Zhinjio | what the heck was that. |
| 23:27.12 | NeoTron | well I tried using gpart and another one |
| 23:27.14 | Zhinjio | totally saved my ass too. hmm. |
| 23:27.17 | NeoTron | and they didn't work |
| 23:27.19 | Daruhn | Zhinjio: So I'm messing with that eepanels addon you mentioned but I can't seem to find anywhere in the code to input my own textures to use |
| 23:27.32 | NeoTron | hmm so when I try to install buring crusade it says I need to install wow first |
| 23:27.33 | NeoTron | wtf |
| 23:28.04 | aestil | Ellipsis: do you use some sort of dot timer? |
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| 23:30.23 | Zhinjio | Daruhn: one second... |
| 23:30.25 | Ellipsis | aestil: EBBs |
| 23:31.31 | Zhinjio | Daruhn: make sure you're in "Advanced Mode". When you create a new panel, open up its menu, got to "Background Texture" ... there is an option there for a "Custom" texture |
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| 23:32.52 | Zhinjio | NeoTron: I think I used something called TestDisk, found here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk |
| 23:33.23 | Daruhn | yeah I just found that, put in the path of the texture I wanna use and It's not showin up. Lemme try out a few more things first though |
| 23:33.53 | Zhinjio | my earlier statements about texture restrictions still apply |
| 23:33.58 | Zhinjio | do you know the limitations? |
| 23:34.46 | Zhinjio | also: when you add a new file into the ones that wow loads, you must exit the game completely for it to be found and usable. |
| 23:35.45 | Ellipsis | also: path is relative to the wow directory |
| 23:35.51 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 23:36.32 | Daruhn | sorry, what do you mean by limitations? |
| 23:36.42 | Ellipsis | each dimension has to be a power of 2 |
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| 23:36.50 | Ellipsis | format must be tga with alpha |
| 23:36.51 | Ellipsis | etc. |
| 23:37.01 | Zhinjio | so, like... 32x32, or 128x256 |
| 23:37.01 | Zhinjio | must be TGA or BLP |
| 23:37.10 | Daruhn | kk, thanks |
| 23:37.12 | Zhinjio | up to a maximum size of 512x512 |
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| 23:37.25 | Zhinjio | only supports one alpha channel, right. |
| 23:37.27 | Zhinjio | um... |
| 23:37.38 | Zhinjio | I think thats it |
| 23:37.49 | Ellipsis | also you must make regular offerings to the gods |
| 23:37.54 | Ellipsis | but I assume you already took care of that |
| 23:38.15 | Zhinjio | they favor virgins (who doesn't) |
| 23:39.52 | syeren | So Blizzard releasr Armor Penetration Gems. |
| 23:40.03 | syeren | And show they have no clue what is happening in their game :< |
| 23:41.30 | Diao | lol |
| 23:41.37 | Diao | how much arp |
| 23:41.40 | Daruhn | Hmm, I got the texture to load this time but the transparencies didn't work. Any way to fix that? |
| 23:42.22 | Zhinjio | that probably means you didn't save the transparencies in the image properly |
| 23:42.24 | Zhinjio | honestly |
| 23:42.46 | Daruhn | hmm, I'll try again |
| 23:42.48 | Zhinjio | that took me a few tries to get working right as well |
| 23:43.06 | Zhinjio | transparency must be done via alpha channel |
| 23:44.23 | Shirik | how do I "reset" omen? |
| 23:44.27 | Shirik | aside from deleting its SV file |
| 23:44.38 | Zhinjio | reset what, position? |
| 23:44.42 | Shirik | yeah |
| 23:44.42 | Zhinjio | or settings? |
| 23:44.44 | Shirik | well |
| 23:44.46 | Shirik | everything |
| 23:44.52 | Shirik | in particular position would be helpful |
| 23:45.11 | Zhinjio | er, /omen center |
| 23:45.13 | Zhinjio | I think |
| 23:46.08 | Shirik | I guess I should be more specific |
| 23:46.28 | Shirik | my friend is getting an error when trying to bring up the configure window for omen; he's updated, etc., so I assumed something got corrupted |
| 23:46.35 | Shirik | just trying to delete whatever might be screwy |
| 23:46.52 | Shirik | 19:45:30 [6] <70:Daloc>: Interface\Addons\Omen\Omen.lua:315:attempt to call method 'SetDefaultSize' (a nil value) |
| 23:47.18 | Daruhn | Allright, so clearly I know less than I thought about this stuff lol. Step by step (because I'm an idiot) how do I save an image with a transparent backround to tga format. |
| 23:47.47 | Zhinjio | Daruhn: what program are you using? |
| 23:47.52 | Daruhn | Photoshop CS2 |
| 23:48.57 | Xuerian | Daruhn: ezmode? ctrl-click the layer with transparency (or add to teh selction for all the layers, invert the selection, and save the selection as a alpha layer (only one) |
| 23:49.01 | Xuerian | or... something like that |
| 23:49.09 | aestil | ebbs won't show for mobs taht aren't your target or focus though, correct? |
| 23:49.38 | Xuerian | aestil: Not made to, iirc.. |
| 23:49.58 | Daruhn | ok, so I have the transparency selected, don't know how to save it as an alpha layer. |
| 23:50.09 | Zhinjio | Daruhn: a quick search turns up this: http://tinyurl.com/5w5vv2 |
| 23:50.42 | Xuerian | yeah, same method |
| 23:50.46 | Zhinjio | more thorough searching, I'm certain ... would turn up something better |
| 23:51.40 | Zhinjio | Shirik: No idea on that one |
| 23:51.54 | Zhinjio | I'd delete the addon, delete the SV files and reinstall |
| 23:51.57 | Shirik | oh well, /script Omen.db:ResetDB(); didn't help either >.> |
| 23:51.57 | Zhinjio | see if that helps |
| 23:52.02 | Shirik | I would tell him that |
| 23:52.05 | Shirik | except he already did :/ |
| 23:52.08 | Shirik | supposedly |
| 23:52.11 | Shirik | I don't trust him, tbh |
| 23:52.30 | Shirik | but thanks :) |
| 23:53.08 | Xuerian | Shirik: Put a syntax error in it and then see if he tells you it erroed |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-45 | 03borlox * r78821 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-45 | Fortress: |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-45 | - added .tooltip handling |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-45 | - some cleanup in the tooltip code |
| 23:53.19 | Shirik | oh look! He finally told me a real problem |
| 23:53.30 | Shirik | apparently "Could not find an instance of AceGUI-3.0" |
| 23:53.44 | Zhinjio | nub |
| 23:53.45 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 23:54.14 | Shirik | giving errors in the order they appear ftw.... |
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| 23:56.43 | Ellipsis | aestil: afaik it hasn't been updated for guid handling, no |
| 23:57.52 | aestil | is there one that does? |
| 23:58.02 | aestil | seems like this is like a 'great idea' but its not one thats been used yet? |
| 23:58.29 | Ellipsis | dotdotdot is the only one I can think of off the top of my head |
| 23:58.33 | Ellipsis | plus, it has an awesome name :3 |
| 23:58.36 | Zhinjio | scope question: if you are in a loop, does each iteration get its own scope, or does a variable defined inside the for...end block exist for all iterations? |
| 23:58.53 | Arrowmaster | each gets its own |
| 23:58.54 | Zhinjio | I think it has to be each iteration gets its own scope. |
| 23:58.56 | Zhinjio | right |
| 23:58.57 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 23:59.28 | Daruhn | Excellent, got it all working. Now I just need to finish designing the image to place there. |
| 23:59.41 | Zhinjio | good deal. |
