| 00:00.26 | sylvanaar | but yeah, whoever made changes to the wowace version after i did, used different source as a starting point |
| 00:00.27 | Gnarfoz | also it has at least one fix the "official" one doesn't, hence, different code bases. hence my assumption that one of them is now technically a branch |
| 00:00.33 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 00:00.53 | Gnarfoz | what's wdnaddons.com anyway? |
| 00:00.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:01.23 | sylvanaar | thats how wau xrefs the toc with the client version |
| 00:01.27 | Arrowmaster | it was where wdn.wowinterface.com moved too |
| 00:01.34 | Arrowmaster | but then it moved to wowcompares.com |
| 00:02.06 | Gnarfoz | a means to identify what the most current released build of wow is, then? hm |
| 00:02.35 | Arrowmaster | pff just include a mpq lib and pull it from the mpqs |
| 00:02.48 | sylvanaar | no you |
| 00:02.55 | Gnarfoz | could just check the actual wow.exe, but... that might be out of date |
| 00:03.33 | sylvanaar | i get the current client version from the wow server, then use it to look up the toc on wdn |
| 00:04.41 | sylvanaar | i wrote that well over a year ago - i think i had intended to use it so that it wouldnt update EU until their clients were patched |
| 00:05.02 | sylvanaar | but, then other stuff happened |
| 00:09.09 | sylvanaar | i guess the xref table could be on the svn here, but someone would still have to maintain it |
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| 00:19.09 | CIA-45 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 00:19.09 | CIA-45 | -Changed DR time to 15 seconds. Major update incoming soon |
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| 00:21.57 | Groktar | wow, someone named their shaman Bicurious |
| 00:22.36 | sylvanaar | what race |
| 00:23.04 | Camci | duh |
| 00:23.05 | Camci | shaman |
| 00:23.11 | Camci | err |
| 00:23.14 | Camci | nvm |
| 00:23.17 | harldephin | lol |
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| 00:34.09 | Stanzilla | russian invasion! |
| 00:35.58 | ckknight | damn ruskies |
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| 00:39.09 | ulic | hopefully they can translate better than some of the others :) |
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| 00:49.32 | CIA-45 | scorchio: |
| 00:49.32 | CIA-45 | - Embeds, embeds... |
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| 00:57.23 | Ironhand | can someone tell me how to call up the new 2.4.3 alarm clock feature? (I've got a nagging suspicion some fubar addon I use might be preventing it from showing in an obvious way) |
| 00:58.24 | ulic | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.41 | ulic | the alarm part is attached to the minimap by default, and with Chinchilla I can't see it. |
| 00:59.15 | Ironhand | ahhhh I just figured it out by accidentally clicking my ClockFu |
| 00:59.53 | Ironhand | /timer brings up the stopwatch/timer but not the actual alarm clock feature, still not sure the latter actually has a command linked to it |
| 01:00.37 | durcyn | the clock is configured in interface options |
| 01:00.41 | ulic | yea I don't think /alarm does anything. I didn't see anyway to set the alarm without having the new clock frame that blizz attached to the minimap. |
| 01:00.48 | ulic | but I haven't looked really hard. |
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| 01:01.41 | durcyn | oh, ain't that a peach. the stopwatch doesn't tick when you hide the frame. |
| 01:03.08 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt? lol |
| 01:03.25 | Arrowmaster | from what i saw the alarm should though |
| 01:04.50 | ulic | yea, the alarms only frame is really the config frame, and I did set an alarm yesterday and it went off with the config frame closed. |
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| 01:09.46 | Arrowmaster | we were clearing supremus trash and a flying mob dies ontop of some of the wooden wall stuff |
| 01:10.08 | Arrowmaster | and it has a epic sheild on it, but only the taurens can reach it to loot it but the ML is an orc |
| 01:10.37 | [dRaCo] | \o/ |
| 01:11.12 | Ellipsis | owned |
| 01:11.29 | Aiiane | needs more engineer boots |
| 01:11.41 | Arrowmaster | its not like anybody really wanted it though other than the pallys |
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| 01:12.07 | qwesto | gogo bloodlust! |
| 01:12.09 | ulic | Need a new engineering item [Loot Pole] |
| 01:12.17 | [dRaCo] | you could of course write a ticket ;P |
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| 01:18.29 | Gnarfoz | we had something like that in MC once, when Sulfuron Herald literally ran up a wall at 2% and died there, just out of reach |
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| 01:41.37 | smoke_ | which hud is the most memory efficient? |
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| 01:45.35 | CIA-45 | FlightHUD: |
| 01:45.35 | CIA-45 | - zhCN update |
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| 01:57.00 | Pkekyo| | meh, slow people them hong kongians :< |
| 01:57.11 | Zyndrome | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNk5N97H8zM |
| 01:57.13 | Zyndrome | awesome |
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| 02:02.39 | Pkekyo| | agreed Zyndrome |
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| 02:13.27 | Zyndrome | www.wowhead.com/?item=38320 |
| 02:14.16 | Zyndrome | now Im a female dark iron dwarf , but keeps her helmet on :( |
| 02:20.38 | harldephin | is a wolf. |
| 02:20.44 | harldephin | good night |
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| 02:42.55 | Groktar | wheee p2 again |
| 02:43.02 | Groktar | is loving the muru nerf |
| 02:44.29 | sylvanaar | im so bored |
| 02:45.47 | sylvanaar | aoc didnt work out - and im tired of wow + its too hot here to play paintball. |
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| 02:47.06 | Aiiane | indoor paintball? |
| 02:47.40 | Aiiane | i got dragged to an indoor paintball place one time for a party and it was fun enough |
| 02:48.07 | PProvost | sylvanaar: A number of guildies left for AoC and are all getting bored. |
| 02:48.15 | PProvost | Sounds like the end-game blows. |
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| 02:49.35 | sylvanaar | i didnt make it that far, but I wanted to write mods for the game, and them not having an API really was a turnoff |
| 02:51.32 | sylvanaar | the UI is not bad - but you are stuck with it, i think that MMO's need customizable UI's because the game experience is something that's very individual |
| 02:51.51 | PProvost | agreed, and for many that is what makes wow work |
| 02:51.58 | Aiiane | arg... is there any way to easily disable an addon for only 1 character, but leave it enabled for all the others? |
| 02:52.37 | [dRaCo] | addon screen, choose character, uncheck addon? |
| 02:52.44 | sylvanaar | yeah, AoC wasnt even near ready at release, but if they had an API, we could have helped |
| 02:52.48 | Aiiane | disables it for all characters, [dRaCo] :/ |
| 02:53.02 | Aiiane | even if you have Configure Addons For: set to a single character |
| 02:53.16 | [dRaCo] | that's a bug, then... |
| 02:53.47 | Aiiane | if you disable it for all, and then go through single characters and re-enable it, then the ones you dont re-enable it for won't have it enabled |
| 02:54.09 | [dRaCo] | sucks, though... you might wanna check the bug forums |
| 02:54.12 | Aiiane | but unchecking the checkbox on any character disables it for all characters regardless of whether a single character is selectred or not |
| 02:54.12 | Aiiane | k |
| 02:55.17 | Aiiane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5284849896&postId=52356080077&sid=1#0 |
| 02:55.20 | Aiiane | seems im not the only one |
| 02:55.49 | Aiiane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7475499135&postId=74747767776&sid=1#0 too |
| 02:56.53 | Aiiane | I'm trying to set up an alt with no addons enabled, but I really don't want to have to go through and individually set up all of my other characters again |
| 02:58.22 | sylvanaar | i always did that with ACP |
| 02:59.07 | Aiiane | ACP? |
| 02:59.19 | sylvanaar | or any similar in-game addon manager |
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| 03:00.02 | Aiiane | will try ACP, thanks |
| 03:00.28 | Aiiane | hopefully it's just blizz's addon UI borken |
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| 03:06.08 | Aiiane | so yeah, disabling ingame with ACP also disables for every other character :/ |
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| 03:07.51 | farmbuyer | Is kolie/jennen around tonight? I saw the post saying that kolie had taken over WAU maintenance, and there's a new string of crashes happening. Somebody on the forums figured out what it is; was hoping to point kolie at the thread if he'd not already seen it. |
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| 03:11.36 | sylvanaar | farmbuyer i already talked to kolie |
| 03:11.52 | farmbuyer | oh good, thank you |
| 03:12.16 | Aiiane | oh now *that*'s interesting |
| 03:12.20 | farmbuyer | Hopefully whichever ad site it is that can't be resolved will get rotated out soon, or something. |
| 03:12.39 | farmbuyer | Until the DNS failure turning into a crash gets fixed. |
| 03:13.15 | Aiiane | so... selected a single character, disabled addons. addons disabled for all characters. selected a *different* character, enabled some addons that were enabled before: those addons enabled for all characters. enabled some addons that *weren't* enabled before: those addons *weren't* re-enabled for all characters |
| 03:13.58 | sylvanaar | you can use ACP addon sets, they may help |
| 03:14.17 | Aiiane | doesn't help if i have to load an addon set and reloadui every time i swap characters :/ |
| 03:18.32 | sylvanaar | well, thats a tough one |
| 03:18.41 | Aiiane | nods |
| 03:18.53 | Aiiane | Well, for now, I have things back to what they were, plus a character with nothing enabled. |
| 03:19.06 | Aiiane | I guess I'll just stick with that until Bliz fixes their UI. |
| 03:20.25 | NeoTron | Groktar: not there yet.. do you still go with 6 healers? |
| 03:21.23 | sylvanaar | by the way - I am still accepting WAR beta invites... |
| 03:21.34 | sylvanaar | just so everyone knows |
| 03:22.56 | Aiiane | lol |
| 03:23.28 | Lukian | What alternatives to click2cast are there? |
| 03:23.38 | Lukian | Need something that does Keybindings to spellnames to |
| 03:23.40 | Lukian | too* |
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| 03:32.57 | ulic | not sure what you mean by spellnames, but clique by cladhaire |
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| 03:33.22 | Aiiane | I'm assuming they mean being able to bind keys to things that aren't on your actionbars |
| 03:35.10 | Lukian | ulic, clique doesn't do keybinds? |
| 03:35.17 | Lukian | Aiiane, that's right |
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| 03:39.56 | Aiiane | Clique can do anything in your spellbook |
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| 03:45.29 | Kolie | kaelten_ is a poo poo head |
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| 03:53.29 | Shirik | agree |
| 03:55.40 | fewyn|clone | awesome, nda offically lifted beta is now live |
| 03:55.56 | sylvanaar | for wotlk? |
| 03:56.14 | fewyn | yes |
| 03:56.20 | fewyn | info popping up everywhere |
| 03:56.21 | sylvanaar | neat |
| 03:56.31 | fewyn | mmo-champion has the patch notes |
| 03:56.46 | Gnarfoz | wtb my account being selected for beta >_> |
| 03:56.58 | fewyn | same |
| 03:57.06 | fewyn | i missed BC beta because of my junk filter |
| 03:57.14 | fewyn | i didn't notice that until I cleaned out my mail recently |
| 03:57.20 | fewyn | i was totally pissed off |
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| 03:59.24 | ArPharazon | the WoLK beta is now live ? |
| 03:59.30 | fewyn | yes |
| 03:59.43 | ArPharazon | has it been announced anywhere |
| 03:59.48 | fewyn | The downloader is up and the NDA has been lifted |
| 04:00.01 | fewyn | I expect invites are probably going out too |
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| 04:00.12 | fewyn | They tend to throw this type of stuff at us on fridays |
| 04:00.35 | Gnarfoz | I want them to throw an email at me :p |
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| 04:00.48 | ArPharazon | i signed up to the beta opt in, but thats no guarantee of getting an invite right |
| 04:00.53 | fewyn | nope |
| 04:00.56 | ArPharazon | :/ |
| 04:00.57 | fewyn | no guarantee |
| 04:00.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah :\ |
| 04:01.08 | ArPharazon | so how do you find out if you've been accepted or not |
| 04:01.09 | Gnarfoz | I bet some random scrubs in my guild will get their account enabled and I'll lose out, again :p |
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| 04:01.16 | Gnarfoz | you'll be emailed, very likely. |
| 04:01.26 | ArPharazon | well here's hoping i do :P |
| 04:01.33 | Gnarfoz | too bad this time around, you can't even trade the keys. which was quite certainly their intention |
| 04:01.49 | fewyn | Which is why they did opt-in thankfully |
| 04:02.06 | fewyn | I bet a lot of gold farmers got invites and people who very casually play and would never use it >_> |
| 04:02.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, *but* this way... you know where I'm going with this :D |
| 04:02.39 | fewyn | =p |
| 04:02.42 | Gnarfoz | = giddy ;D |
| 04:02.54 | fewyn | I just like it that the NDA is lifted |
| 04:02.58 | Zyndrome | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/208.html |
| 04:03.00 | Zyndrome | quite a list |
| 04:03.01 | fewyn | means I can salavate over druid changes |
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| 04:03.15 | Zyndrome | "Lay on Hands no longer drains all mana, cooldown reduced to 20 minutes." |
| 04:03.22 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 04:03.23 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 04:03.24 | fewyn | I really like the hunter changes |
| 04:03.27 | Zyndrome | my pally cheered |
| 04:03.41 | Gnarfoz | all of my chars will cheer, and there's lots of em :D |
| 04:03.42 | fewyn | Especially the one about when you tame a pet if it's too low it automatically goes 5 levels below you |
| 04:04.02 | ArPharazon | damn - the barber shop is of no use to my bald warlock :/ |
| 04:04.03 | sylvanaar | i really hope they do mod author invites |
| 04:04.06 | fewyn | That would have been useful when I wanted a ravager at level 40 >_> |
| 04:04.20 | Zyndrome | "Seal of the Crusader has been removed. The effects of Judgement of the Crusader have been folded into all relevant abilities." |
| 04:04.22 | Zyndrome | is lovable |
| 04:04.23 | fewyn | ArPharazon I think you can select your own hairstyle also |
| 04:04.26 | fewyn | so it could give you hair |
| 04:04.46 | ArPharazon | woot! hair at last! |
| 04:04.56 | fewyn | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/ssAchievements2.jpg as you can see from the hairstyle button |
| 04:05.30 | kadrahil | O.O |
| 04:05.38 | kadrahil | kalecgos to 54% and sathrovarr to 58% |
| 04:05.41 | kadrahil | first night of attempts |
| 04:05.43 | Zyndrome | "Holy Wrath is now instant cast, causes a 3 second stun, cooldown reduced to 30 seconds, radius reduced to 10 yards." |
| 04:05.46 | kadrahil | in like 3 hours =/ |
| 04:05.51 | Zyndrome | keep those warlock pets at bay! |
| 04:06.22 | fewyn | nice job kadrahil how you can see him dead soon |
| 04:06.33 | kadrahil | yeah a couple more nights and he'll be down |
| 04:06.38 | kadrahil | maybe sunday maybe next week ;/ |
| 04:06.44 | fewyn | I'm still working my way through the rest of BT |
| 04:06.48 | kadrahil | we're starting to phase out hyjal now so we can do a BT clear and 2 nights on sunwell |
| 04:06.55 | kadrahil | ah |
| 04:06.59 | fewyn | hopefully I can see Illidan dead by the end of the expansion |
| 04:07.06 | kadrahil | you will :) |
| 04:07.08 | fewyn | which might be possible |
| 04:07.21 | fewyn | I say about 6 more months of beta testing maximum |
| 04:07.39 | fewyn | I think it may actually be out before xmas this time tho |
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| 04:09.13 | Zhinjio | do any purple items (like gems from mining nodes) drop out of herb nodes? |
| 04:09.37 | fewyn | no |
| 04:09.56 | fewyn | besides normal herbs you might get a fel lotus out of a node in outland |
| 04:11.35 | ArPharazon | man - i really hate you guys in sunwell & bt - my guild is stuck in SSC/TK :/ |
| 04:12.22 | fewyn | I was there for the last year and a half almost |
| 04:12.31 | fewyn | I've had my fair share of SSC/TK |
| 04:12.36 | fewyn | Glad not to be going back |
| 04:13.50 | ArPharazon | ah well - if the beta is going to be about 6 months, then hopefully we'll get to see a little sunwell & bt action before wolk is launched |
| 04:14.10 | ArPharazon | i have a feeling that sunwell & bt will become ghost towns after that :/ |
| 04:14.24 | fewyn | they will |
| 04:14.38 | fewyn | just like Naxx and AQ40 and BWL did |
| 04:14.57 | fewyn | i ran Naxx for shits n giggles a couple months back |
| 04:15.02 | fewyn | we cleared it |
| 04:15.12 | fewyn | hoursemen was a bit tough even with full 70s |
| 04:15.20 | Yssaril | wonder if you can solo aq40 at 80 |
| 04:15.26 | fewyn | unlikely |
| 04:15.39 | fewyn | those bosses still have a ton of health |
| 04:15.47 | fewyn | Wouldn't be suprised maybe with a 5 man |
| 04:16.26 | Yssaril | never did get far into it back in the day /sigh |
| 04:18.30 | ArPharazon | i never got to see AQ20/40 or naxx as I started playing wow about 2 months before BC was launched |
| 04:21.43 | Yssaril | i got to clear MC/BWL and 2 bosses in AQ40 (cleared ZG and AQ20 also) |
| 04:22.02 | Yssaril | nefarion was always fun especially the first couple times with hunter call :P |
| 04:22.49 | aestil | aq40 was horrible. |
| 04:22.59 | aestil | twin emps was interesting, but overall i hated that instance. |
| 04:23.16 | aestil | naxx was unbelievably good, and i was very sad we didn't finish it before the guild fell apart. |
| 04:23.18 | Yssaril | furthest we got was to them bug things without an agro table |
| 04:24.00 | Yssaril | they should let us use our bug mounts in northrend :) |
| 04:24.26 | ArPharazon | ah MC is the other one i never got to see :/ |
| 04:25.18 | Neya | you havn't missed much there really :P |
| 04:25.43 | Yssaril | MC was like trash central /sigh |
| 04:25.52 | fewyn | the good ol' days |
| 04:26.09 | fewyn | when you had to have 39 other noobs to kill anything |
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| 04:26.32 | Yssaril | at least it tought decent pulling technigues (ie not stand around with bio breaks between every damn pull :P) |
| 04:27.42 | Neya | I only got to pull in there once, one of the few days the member who considered herself the classleader wasn't there, and I think I overworked our tanks too... |
| 04:28.02 | Neya | that was when I was still playing a hunter. |
| 04:28.12 | Arrowmaster | i got yelled at for pulling the corehounds around garr |
| 04:28.19 | Yssaril | lol |
| 04:28.21 | Neya | haha |
| 04:28.28 | Arrowmaster | since i always got tired of waiting forever for the warriors to pull them |
| 04:28.52 | Arrowmaster | because they wanted to be super careful and not pull garr |
| 04:29.38 | Neya | I think our warriors stood still maybe 15 minutes in total that run I was pulling mobs in, that's not counting once the mobs are dead and preparation for the boss is going on. |
| 04:30.02 | Yssaril | imo if the healers have mana keep pulling :P |
| 04:30.16 | Yssaril | no reason to stop unless a tank dies |
| 04:30.25 | Neya | The tanks had fun, but our healers yelled quite a bit at me :P "we're under 40% mana!" |
| 04:30.35 | Yssaril | lol |
| 04:30.43 | Arrowmaster | MC atleast taught people the art of pet pulling and after they did the ooc ressing nerf it taught the art of not doing anything during a pet pull |
| 04:30.55 | Neya | I never got to be puller for any more instances after that :'( |
| 04:32.00 | hydrogen | yea healing rotations |
| 04:32.20 | Arrowmaster | lol those were the days |
| 04:32.21 | ArPharazon | slighty offtopic - does anyone know of a macro or command to discover the raid icon associated with a target so that i can include that icon in my macro ? |
| 04:32.49 | Arrowmaster | !api GetRaidTarget() |
| 04:32.49 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetRaidTargetIndex' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRaidTargetIndex |
| 04:33.13 | Yssaril | couple months ago we went into MC for the fun of it it ended with us wiping on geddon cause instead of killing him we tried to blow each up :P |
| 04:33.32 | Neya | meh, Lua-bot is faster than my computer is at doing the websearch directly from the startmenu. |
| 04:33.57 | cladhaire | :P |
| 04:34.09 | ArPharazon | whoa - thanks Arrowmaster! |
| 04:34.36 | Arrowmaster | this for a chat macro? |
| 04:34.42 | Neya | I went to mc to help a few people see the place a few months ago, we wiped on Geddon and that was not due to the bombs... |
| 04:34.54 | ArPharazon | yeah it is for a chat macro |
| 04:35.07 | Arrowmaster | youll have to use SendChatMessage() |
| 04:35.12 | Yssaril | Neya: lol |
| 04:35.55 | Neya | silly healers running out of mana :P |
| 04:36.20 | Yssaril | hehe let me guess tank had no FR? |
| 04:37.32 | Arrowmaster | guessing they took only druids and shaman healers |
| 04:37.37 | Neya | oh he FR, about 100, but noone was dispelling the manaburn. So I gave up trying to heal and went catform. |
| 04:37.44 | Neya | he had FR* |
| 04:38.34 | Yssaril | lol |
| 04:39.42 | Aiiane | what API function does item validation, if any? |
| 04:42.45 | Arrowmaster | item validation? |
| 04:43.14 | Aiiane | as in, if I have a random itemid, and it's not in local cache, how would I go around attempting to retrieve it? |
| 04:43.31 | Aiiane | since GetItemInfo only works if it's already in local cache |
| 04:43.41 | Arrowmaster | GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:#####") |
| 04:43.53 | Aiiane | thanks |
| 04:43.56 | Arrowmaster | or preferably your own hidden tooltip |
| 04:44.00 | Aiiane | nods |
| 04:44.12 | Aiiane | Tooltips was all I needed to know. :) |
| 04:44.25 | Arrowmaster | if you call that right before GetItemInfo() i still dont think it will work though |
| 04:44.58 | Aiiane | I'm guessing there's at least a little delay, since it involves a server request to validate it |
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| 04:46.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah if you hook tooltip:SetScript("OnTooltipSetItem", func) and then start the func with name, id = tooltip:GetItem() if name or id are nil it wont be loaded yet |
| 04:46.53 | Arrowmaster | but the game will call OnTooltipSetItem again when it is available |
| 04:47.48 | Arrowmaster | and tooltip:GetItem() will work on that call |
| 04:48.52 | Gnarfoz | ~seen tekkub |
| 04:48.57 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 23m 57s ago, saying: 'I'm looking into it'. |
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| 04:50.01 | Aiiane | just getting back into lua and wow addon programming, it's been too long :| |
| 04:50.24 | Aiiane | lua itself is coming back fairly quickly, but the API isn't :P |
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| 05:01.31 | Zyndrome | EU-logins borked again |
| 05:02.21 | Zyndrome | this time, it doesn't even show authenticating... just the button "Cancel" :| |
| 05:04.51 | Gnarfoz | can you die from information overload? xD |
| 05:05.06 | Neya | works fine from here Zyndrome. |
| 05:05.12 | Gnarfoz | eats mmo-champion.com |
| 05:05.37 | Gnarfoz | anyone got an idea why you can't whisper "mmo-champion.com" to players ingame, btw? xD |
| 05:05.47 | Gnarfoz | it says "your message included reserved words" :D |
| 05:06.36 | Zyndrome | meh works now |
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| 05:07.54 | Zyndrome | http://i34.tinypic.com/2z739c3.jpg ... |
| 05:07.59 | Gnarfoz | wtf legs with 83 expertise on just one item |
| 05:08.03 | Gnarfoz | talk about overpowered xD |
| 05:08.18 | Gnarfoz | lol Zyndrome |
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| 05:08.45 | Zhinjio | goddamnit I hate it when I can't repro a bug. |
| 05:08.52 | Groktar | loves him some Groktar |
| 05:09.00 | Zhinjio | the SV file in the jira ticket CLEARLY shows what happened, but I can't make it happen |
| 05:09.06 | Zhinjio | cries. |
| 05:09.37 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: help me! |
| 05:11.28 | Aiiane | Hmm.. Arrowmaster, I only seem to be getting one OnTooltipSetItem trigger, and the itemlink isn't valid yet when it's triggered... but it is valid after that |
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| 05:27.11 | |Yssaril| | night guys |
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| 05:39.03 | Gnarfoz | Bibi: you there? :> |
| 05:39.10 | Bibi | of course |
| 05:39.13 | Bibi | I'm everywhere |
| 05:39.16 | Bibi | I'm like, omniscient |
| 05:39.19 | Bibi | and filled with cafeine |
| 05:39.21 | Bibi | mostly. |
| 05:39.30 | Gnarfoz | hehe, guessed so |
| 05:39.48 | Gnarfoz | you, and in extension, your page, are, like, AWESOMENESS INCARNATE right now. |
| 05:39.50 | Gnarfoz | much <3 :) |
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| 06:13.12 | Aiiane | Some of these changes from the WotLK beta notes are going to be really nice. |
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| 06:16.35 | Guest1663078 | my internet is all screwy |
| 06:17.02 | Diao | some of the changes are horrible (warrior pvp got nerfed into the ground) |
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| 06:32.19 | cnc|work | hello all |
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| 06:38.57 | Aiiane | the only pvp changes I really see diao are the chances to mace spec, which are reasonable, and the changes to deathwish |
| 06:39.16 | Aiiane | oh, and overpower |
| 06:40.02 | Aiiane | hardly "nerfed into the ground" |
| 06:41.24 | cnc|work | in wotlk they're removing tree of life limitations <3 |
| 06:41.32 | cnc|work | you'll be able to cast all resto spells :D |
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| 06:45.07 | CIA-45 | 03quezacolt 07Quezacolt * r78668 10Barrier/ (Bars.xml Config.lua Core.lua FAQ.lua): |
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| 06:45.07 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.33 | Diao | um |
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| 06:46.54 | Diao | deathwish nerf, overpower nerf, hamstring no longer deals damage(no more swordspec/macespec procs off hamstring), mace stun nerf, wf no longer gives extra attack |
| 06:47.00 | Diao | completely unviable in pvp |
| 06:47.01 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: do you mind if add an option to hide the new Clock/Stopwatch thingy to Squeenix? |
| 06:48.12 | Aiiane | as long as warriors have a 15-sec intercept, hamstring (regardless of mace spec procs), and MS, they'll be viable in PvP. |
| 06:48.16 | Diao | nope |
| 06:48.24 | Diao | not with the buffs all the other classes are getting |
| 06:48.49 | Diao | warriors get another lackluster 51 pt talent |
| 06:48.55 | Diao | nothing past 35 is worth getting, yet again |
| 06:49.56 | Tekkub | Gnarfoz, no... the default UI has one |
| 06:50.03 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: oh. lol :> |
| 06:50.30 | Gnarfoz | *deletes said already done option* xD |
| 06:51.42 | Aiiane | warriors have always had fairly decent double-tree PvP specs though |
| 06:52.08 | Aiiane | and I've heard differing opinions on the 51-pt talents |
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| 06:53.28 | Diao | heroic leap is in fury, when it's useless in pve dps |
| 06:53.39 | Diao | bladestorm seems "cool" at first, but is really quite worthless in pvp |
| 06:53.48 | Diao | prot is the only good one :( |
| 06:54.38 | Aiiane | welcome to destro lock? heh |
| 06:55.26 | Diao | nobody else can complain until their 41 pt talent is worse than a base class skill (lolrampage) |
| 06:55.36 | Diao | :P |
| 06:56.35 | cnc|work | cog|sleep: nvm, the email as found earlyer was a fake :s |
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| 06:57.56 | Kody` | mmm... new login screen: http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=528&c=15 |
| 06:58.54 | reqol | I like it |
| 06:59.03 | Aiiane | I'll complain all I want if my talent tree is broken, Diao :P |
| 06:59.13 | Diao | lol |
| 06:59.19 | Diao | but yeah |
| 06:59.28 | Diao | i'm really disappointed in blizzard once again |
| 06:59.35 | Diao | making arms basically garbage |
| 06:59.44 | Aiiane | Well, nothing says they're not making more changes |
| 07:00.02 | Diao | i hope so... they left endless rage in it's current terrible form for all of bc :\ |
| 07:00.08 | Diao | and imp MS |
| 07:00.09 | Aiiane | I mean, those patch notes don't even list the 51-pt pally talents |
| 07:00.13 | Aiiane | or hunter ones |
| 07:00.14 | MoonWork | but taking a reasonable aproach isn't fun and doesn't leave space for whining. |
| 07:00.16 | Aiiane | but those are in the beta |
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| 07:00.25 | Diao | i feel bad for paladins too |
| 07:00.34 | Aiiane | howso |
| 07:00.38 | Diao | they haven't gotten any of the "sweeping changes" that were promiesd |
| 07:00.39 | Diao | in wotlk |
| 07:00.41 | Diao | promised* |
| 07:00.52 | Diao | well, not yet anyway |
| 07:00.53 | cnc|work | they did keep their ToL primise though |
| 07:00.55 | MoonWork | they promised sweeping changes ? |
| 07:00.55 | cnc|work | <3 |
| 07:00.58 | theoddone33 | it's a ways off |
| 07:00.58 | Diao | yes |
| 07:01.01 | MoonWork | where ? |
| 07:01.09 | theoddone33 | "paladins can no longer heal" <-- ! |
| 07:01.10 | Diao | i'd link but my internet is half broken |
| 07:01.14 | Diao | and nothing loads except google, wow, and a few irc channels |
| 07:01.22 | MoonWork | :( |
| 07:01.24 | cog|sleep | cnc|work: woops didn't see your msg in here :P |
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| 07:01.34 | MoonWork | i'm happy enough for my tree |
| 07:01.40 | Diao | had a link to a blue post saying they would make a ton of changes for pally |
| 07:01.44 | Diao | to make them more viable in pvp and pve once again |
| 07:01.45 | Primer | Great Firewall? |
| 07:02.04 | MoonWork | Primer, from behind a .net domain |
| 07:02.06 | MoonWork | unlikely |
| 07:02.14 | theoddone33 | I just had the best idea for how they can fix paladins |
| 07:02.25 | MoonWork | turn all of them into deathknights. |
| 07:02.29 | Diao | lol |
| 07:02.41 | Fisker- | cnc|work ToL? |
| 07:02.42 | theoddone33 | Divine Shield: reduces damage taken and chance to be dispelled by 80%, increases mana regeneration by 400%, lasts for 12 seconds |
| 07:02.51 | cnc|work | tree of life |
| 07:03.09 | Aiiane | well, the 51-pt holy talent for pallies is a start; gives them raid healing capability |
| 07:03.17 | MoonWork | ToL also known as, take 3, tank party never dies. |
| 07:03.19 | Fisker- | GIEV INFOS |
| 07:03.39 | MoonWork | points towards wowhead. |
| 07:03.41 | Aiiane | o Tree of Life (Restoration): 30% snare penalty has been removed. |
| 07:03.41 | Aiiane | o Tree of Life (Restoration): Can now cast Dispel Curse. |
| 07:03.41 | Aiiane | o Tree of Life (Restoration): You can now cast all Restoration spells (Healing Touch) in the form, but Tree of Life now only reduces the mana cost of your healing over time spells (Rejuvenation, Lifebloom, Regrowth and Flourish) by 20%. |
| 07:03.58 | Fisker- | [09:02:59] <+Aiiane> well, the 51-pt holy talent for pallies is a start; gives them raid healing capability |
| 07:04.08 | Fisker- | I do not believe that Tree of Life is a holy talent :o |
| 07:04.12 | Aiiane | 51 holy |
| 07:04.12 | Aiiane | The target becomes a Beacon of Light, healing all party or raid members within $a1 yards for $o1 over $d. |
| 07:04.13 | Fisker- | Perhaps for Restrobution |
| 07:04.21 | theoddone33 | paladins don't have raid healing capability? |
| 07:04.34 | Diao | paladins are the worst raid healers |
| 07:04.35 | Diao | right now |
| 07:04.36 | Aiiane | not HoT/AoE, theoddone33 |
| 07:04.36 | theoddone33 | oh "raid" healing not "healing in raids" |
| 07:04.36 | MoonWork | not to mention healing aura now 5% over the whole raid |
| 07:04.46 | MoonWork | and an AoE HoT centered on target. |
| 07:04.50 | Diao | it's funny |
| 07:04.52 | theoddone33 | healing "the raid" not healing "in a" raid |
| 07:04.56 | theoddone33 | I get it now and I agree |
| 07:05.00 | Diao | because holy pallies were supposed to be the most mana efficient healers |
| 07:05.01 | Diao | but right now |
| 07:05.03 | Diao | they're the least efficient |
| 07:05.22 | cnc|work | not true |
| 07:05.37 | cnc|work | they can still spam FoL forever |
| 07:05.37 | Diao | rofl fol |
| 07:05.38 | MoonWork | druid healing doesn't really increase in mana cost only in healing done, so you can easely outgrow your manacost with regen. |
| 07:05.45 | Diao | fol becomes worthless in late bt/early sunwell |
| 07:05.59 | Diao | doesn't output enough hps to be worth it |
| 07:05.59 | cnc|work | they're changing that in wotlk |
| 07:06.07 | cnc|work | Diao: eh ? |
| 07:06.19 | cnc|work | you prefer spamming HT ? :p |
| 07:06.33 | Diao | downranked ht |
| 07:06.35 | Diao | is far superior |
| 07:06.39 | cnc|work | then you might as well give your spot to a priest/shammy that does that better then you imo |
| 07:06.42 | theoddone33 | 'l' |
| 07:07.03 | Diao | have you done any endgame raid o_O |
| 07:07.08 | theoddone33 | with the lurker libram insane things happen for HPM |
| 07:07.11 | theoddone33 | I hear |
| 07:07.11 | Diao | every top paladin currently downranks HL |
| 07:07.21 | cnc|work | what does that have to do with druids ? |
| 07:07.23 | Diao | because fol is so bad |
| 07:07.57 | theoddone33 | ht hl hs |
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| 07:08.08 | theoddone33 | I'm annoyed that one of the priest talents is "holy shock" |
| 07:08.15 | theoddone33 | good originality there |
| 07:08.18 | cnc|work | well, for druids I don't think that ToL is worthless |
| 07:08.21 | cnc|work | far from |
| 07:08.29 | theoddone33 | wow totally crossed conversations here |
| 07:08.34 | theoddone33 | fol -> flash of light |
| 07:08.38 | theoddone33 | ht -> healing touch |
| 07:08.38 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:08.45 | theoddone33 | tol -> tree of lolz |
| 07:09.04 | cnc|work | crosing conversations <3 |
| 07:09.11 | cnc|work | s/os/oss/ |
| 07:09.20 | theoddone33 | in short, you're all wrong! |
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| 07:10.00 | Aiiane | hmm theoddone33? I don't see a talent called holy shock in the priest tree |
| 07:10.02 | theoddone33 | I don't raid anything 25 man regularly but I gotta say tree druids are pretty insane |
| 07:10.14 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:10.14 | hiflyer | nothing lolz about Tree imo |
| 07:10.29 | Diao | right now, paladins are the first ones to run oom :\ |
| 07:10.32 | Diao | in my raids |
| 07:10.36 | theoddone33 | Aiiane: one of the 61 point priest talents was the same thing as holy shock but with a HoT component |
| 07:10.44 | theoddone33 | or 51 whatever |
| 07:10.52 | Diao | they used to be last to run oom before water shield and spirit/int regen changes |
| 07:11.00 | Aiiane | penance? |
| 07:11.02 | Aiiane | its a channel |
| 07:11.12 | theoddone33 | oh? I guess I misread it |
| 07:11.40 | Diao | yeah it's channeled |
| 07:11.45 | Diao | i'm not sure why they would make a channeled heal |
| 07:11.47 | Diao | seems like a dumb idea to me |
| 07:12.07 | Aiiane | if it's efficient, why not |
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| 07:12.20 | Aiiane | its not like people aren't already chain-casting heals on tanks in some situations |
| 07:12.23 | Diao | well seeing as they made all these raid situations |
| 07:12.27 | Diao | where you have to move a lot |
| 07:12.38 | Diao | standing in one place to channel a heal for 3 sec seems kinda strange |
| 07:12.46 | Aiiane | makes it a tradeoff, efficiency vs. mobility |
| 07:12.54 | Diao | is it extremely mana efficient? |
| 07:13.03 | Diao | because channeled spells get charged the full cost at the beginning of the cast |
| 07:13.05 | Diao | even if it gets interrupted |
| 07:13.32 | theoddone33 | raid priests won't go 51 disc I bet |
| 07:13.42 | Diao | 1 raid priest at least 50 in disc |
| 07:13.44 | Diao | the rest full holy |
| 07:13.53 | Diao | that one priest just for the other talents since they're really nice buffs |
| 07:13.56 | theoddone33 | guardian spirit is super hacks |
| 07:13.59 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:14.02 | Diao | but so are the deep disc talents |
| 07:14.15 | Diao | divine aegis |
| 07:14.16 | theoddone33 | oh, yeah |
| 07:14.18 | theoddone33 | grace is nice |
| 07:14.22 | Diao | and grace |
| 07:14.26 | Diao | both are awesome |
| 07:14.40 | theoddone33 | but |
| 07:14.44 | Diao | and of course rapture |
| 07:14.47 | theoddone33 | "stand still and channel" doesn't make sense for pvp at all |
| 07:14.52 | Diao | yep |
| 07:15.09 | theoddone33 | though I suppose it will still go through pillars in wotlk |
| 07:15.12 | Diao | but yeah.. they need to change something about paladins to make them better |
| 07:15.28 | Diao | it sucks that they're only good for MT healing really, and with downranked spells |
| 07:15.42 | Aiiane | well again |
| 07:15.45 | Diao | especially since holy priests get serendipity in wotlk.. making them better MT healers than paladins |
| 07:15.45 | Aiiane | 51-pt talent |
| 07:15.49 | theoddone33 | don't most classes downrank? |
| 07:15.50 | Aiiane | plus possible other changes |
| 07:15.56 | Diao | well |
| 07:16.00 | Diao | right now priests basically spam CoH |
| 07:16.04 | theoddone33 | oh |
| 07:16.04 | Diao | shaman spam CH |
| 07:16.10 | Diao | druids just roll hots on everyone |
| 07:16.14 | Diao | and paladins...downrank HL |
| 07:16.33 | theoddone33 | anyone healing a tank would downrank their big heal I think? |
| 07:16.39 | theoddone33 | aside from druids |
| 07:16.55 | Diao | well |
| 07:17.10 | Diao | depends i guess |
| 07:17.31 | theoddone33 | I've never gone coh so I just spam renew/pom/gh2 |
| 07:17.32 | Diao | but also, serendipity will lead to holy priests spamming max rank greater heal |
| 07:17.36 | Diao | with no penalty whatsoever |
| 07:17.39 | theoddone33 | and flash heal when needed |
| 07:17.39 | Tekkub | I downrank all the time as a priest, but I also don't raid |
| 07:17.45 | Aiiane | um |
| 07:17.52 | Aiiane | serendipity is for MS-type effects |
| 07:17.58 | Diao | no it isn't |
| 07:18.02 | Diao | read the talent carefully |
| 07:18.19 | Aiiane | yes, what i've heard so far is that how it *acts* is for MS effect |
| 07:18.23 | Aiiane | *effects |
| 07:18.29 | Diao | dunno |
| 07:18.32 | Diao | then they worded it strangely |
| 07:18.35 | Diao | because it says less than 50% |
| 07:18.38 | theoddone33 | it sounds like it "might" count for overheals also |
| 07:18.43 | Diao | then you get refunded the mana cost |
| 07:18.44 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:18.50 | theoddone33 | really though I think all of these talents are ridiculous at this stage |
| 07:18.51 | Diao | if it heals for less than half of the intended due to overheal |
| 07:18.54 | Diao | full mana return |
| 07:19.44 | cnc|work | so, basicly, overheal more for free heelz? |
| 07:19.56 | Diao | exactly. |
| 07:20.03 | theoddone33 | no |
| 07:20.13 | theoddone33 | chain with holy concentration's super duper proc |
| 07:20.19 | theoddone33 | and get mana BACK |
| 07:20.23 | Diao | that too.. |
| 07:20.23 | theoddone33 | (probably not) |
| 07:20.38 | Diao | it'll get nerfed |
| 07:20.41 | Diao | just like paladins and illumination |
| 07:20.42 | Diao | lol |
| 07:21.02 | theoddone33 | pretty much I like holy concentration a lot |
| 07:21.18 | theoddone33 | and a talent that increases the proc rate is a nice addition |
| 07:21.38 | Diao | not to mention free spellhaste |
| 07:21.39 | Diao | on top of it |
| 07:21.45 | theoddone33 | no, that one is broken |
| 07:21.47 | theoddone33 | I believe |
| 07:22.00 | theoddone33 | if you put 3 points into it, wowhead turns it into 100% mana regen |
| 07:22.06 | Diao | o_O |
| 07:22.07 | Diao | wtf |
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| 07:22.13 | Diao | lol |
| 07:22.14 | theoddone33 | pretty sure they entered it wrong |
| 07:22.15 | Diao | that's messed up |
| 07:22.23 | Diao | so spellhaste or mana regen? |
| 07:22.36 | theoddone33 | hard to say |
| 07:22.49 | theoddone33 | which is one reason it's not much good getting excited about talents this early :) |
| 07:22.54 | Diao | either way |
| 07:22.58 | Diao | both would be excellent |
| 07:23.04 | theoddone33 | the mana regen wouldn't be a huge change |
| 07:23.13 | Diao | 100% mana regen while casting? |
| 07:23.16 | theoddone33 | it'd just effectively drop you out of 5sr immediately instead of in 5 secongs |
| 07:23.19 | theoddone33 | seconds |
| 07:23.20 | Diao | it's pretty ridiculous |
| 07:23.22 | Diao | yeah but it lasts 20 sec |
| 07:23.24 | Diao | which means you can chain cast |
| 07:23.30 | Diao | without penalty |
| 07:23.46 | theoddone33 | my guess is that it goes away when the holy concentration proc does |
| 07:23.50 | Diao | especially now, a lot of holy priests in my guild have something stupid like 700 mp5 |
| 07:23.56 | theoddone33 | which would be when you complete your next spell cast |
| 07:23.59 | Diao | out of 5sr |
| 07:24.04 | theoddone33 | or 20 seconds, whicever comes first |
| 07:24.17 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:24.18 | Diao | possible |
| 07:24.24 | Diao | the one on mmo-champ says |
| 07:24.30 | Diao | mana regen to continue for 10 sec |
| 07:24.39 | Diao | so it's possible it may last the full 10 sec |
| 07:24.45 | Diao | which is pretty insane for chain casting |
| 07:24.59 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 07:25.14 | theoddone33 | even right now it's hands down my favorite talent in the holy tree that I don't get in my pvp disc spec |
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| 07:25.53 | theoddone33 | all I need as a priest is for my crits to return mana and I'll be all set :P |
| 07:26.26 | Diao | lol |
| 07:27.09 | Diao | also |
| 07:27.14 | Diao | circle of healing is becoming like chain heal |
| 07:27.18 | Diao | mindless easy healing :\ |
| 07:27.30 | Aiiane | as opposed to mindless easy dps |
| 07:27.32 | Diao | autoheals friendlies with lowest health in range |
| 07:27.35 | theoddone33 | yeah I'd like to play with it but I can never find an occasion to go 41 holy |
| 07:27.40 | Olison | ~seen evl |
| 07:27.42 | purl | evl <n=evl@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 14h 54m 27s ago, saying: 'OMG 2GB RAM'. |
| 07:27.43 | Diao | dps isn't easy unless you're a warlock >.> |
| 07:27.49 | Diao | every other class has rotations to use |
| 07:28.03 | Aiiane | so do CoH priests |
| 07:28.08 | Diao | lol |
| 07:28.09 | Aiiane | PoM every 10 seconds :P |
| 07:28.15 | Diao | lol |
| 07:28.19 | Diao | our coh priests don't even pom |
| 07:28.24 | Diao | they just spam coh the whole fight |
| 07:28.27 | Diao | and come out on top of healing meters |
| 07:28.35 | Diao | cause they heal through all the damage melee takes |
| 07:28.35 | Aiiane | eh. PoM is worth the GCD |
| 07:28.58 | theoddone33 | pom is ridiculous |
| 07:29.01 | theoddone33 | 100% |
| 07:29.04 | Diao | pom is amazing |
| 07:29.07 | Diao | in terms of hps/hpm |
| 07:29.11 | Diao | if it bounces properly |
| 07:29.21 | theoddone33 | yup |
| 07:29.24 | Aiiane | if you're in a situation where CoH is effective |
| 07:29.28 | Aiiane | it should bounce properly |
| 07:29.31 | Aiiane | 99% of the time |
| 07:29.32 | theoddone33 | 18.9 hpm on mine |
| 07:29.36 | theoddone33 | with terrible healing gear |
| 07:29.47 | theoddone33 | which is much higher than anything else |
| 07:29.53 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:30.07 | theoddone33 | my next most efficient spell is 5.4 hpm |
| 07:31.11 | Diao | kinda interested though |
| 07:31.23 | Diao | if blizzard will put MS, BT, SS on a shared cd |
| 07:31.35 | Diao | since SS is now trainable |
| 07:31.36 | Diao | and it's theoretically possible to get both MS and BT |
| 07:31.48 | theoddone33 | ss? |
| 07:31.50 | Diao | shield slam |
| 07:31.54 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 07:31.56 | theoddone33 | trainable? |
| 07:31.58 | theoddone33 | no kidding |
| 07:31.58 | Diao | yep |
| 07:32.03 | Diao | replaced with a new talent |
| 07:32.21 | Diao | would be VERY interesting |
| 07:32.26 | Diao | to do a MS, BT, SS rotation |
| 07:32.33 | Diao | granted, it'd eat up 80 rage in 4.5 sec |
| 07:32.39 | Diao | but it would be a ton of damage |
| 07:32.48 | theoddone33 | that new talent is pretty crazy |
| 07:33.04 | Diao | it's great in 5 mans |
| 07:33.20 | Diao | could be good in raids where you haev an OT |
| 07:33.22 | theoddone33 | I'm not sure how tanks will ever have to worry about threat generation again with that |
| 07:33.23 | Diao | to reduce the damage they take |
| 07:33.28 | Diao | ? |
| 07:33.30 | Diao | um |
| 07:33.45 | charon | the new generation of MS tanks? :D |
| 07:33.47 | Diao | not everything is tauntable ;p |
| 07:33.55 | theoddone33 | ah, that's true |
| 07:33.56 | Diao | yeah, defiance is being rolled into defensive stance |
| 07:34.04 | Diao | so it'll be easier for non-prot warrs to generate threat |
| 07:34.21 | theoddone33 | I kind of meant the tanks that already rely on taunt too much |
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| 07:34.28 | Diao | pj |
| 07:34.29 | Diao | oh* |
| 07:34.37 | Diao | that kind of MS tranks |
| 07:34.38 | Diao | tanks* |
| 07:34.38 | theoddone33 | it will be *almost* a valid playstyle at some levels of gameplay |
| 07:34.38 | Diao | lol |
| 07:35.04 | charon | well your example assumes speccing into both MS and BT which isn't exactly going to be common with raid tanks... perhaps a bit more in 5-mans, who knows |
| 07:35.08 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:36.49 | Diao | prot is looking very very good |
| 07:36.58 | Diao | and seeing as i MT for my guild i'm happy for that |
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| 07:37.41 | cnc|work | same about lots of other talent trees |
| 07:37.47 | cnc|work | blizz seems to have improved a lot with making talents |
| 07:38.01 | Diao | they're hit and miss lol |
| 07:38.16 | cnc|work | what u mean ? |
| 07:38.23 | Diao | look at the arms warrior tree |
| 07:38.29 | Diao | everything past 31 is still basically crap |
| 07:38.53 | cnc|work | hmmm |
| 07:38.56 | cnc|work | druid trees look damn nice |
| 07:39.03 | charon | i wonder what the cooldown on the new feral 51-pointer will be? |
| 07:39.04 | Diao | balance tree is great |
| 07:39.05 | Diao | but it's bloated |
| 07:39.12 | cnc|work | resto is damn great too |
| 07:39.17 | cnc|work | charon: 5mins afaik |
| 07:39.23 | Diao | resto |
| 07:39.27 | Diao | is so good it makes me sad |
| 07:39.35 | cnc|work | they buffed ToL at where it shld be |
| 07:39.37 | Aiiane | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent charon |
| 07:39.42 | Aiiane | for druid feral 51pt talent |
| 07:39.54 | Diao | that one talent |
| 07:39.59 | Diao | that reduces gcd for lifebloom/rejuv |
| 07:40.01 | charon | well that's what i'm looking at, but it doesn't state a cooldown for me |
| 07:40.04 | Diao | AND returns mana on nourish/ht |
| 07:40.05 | cnc|work | removed the speed limitation, made all spells usable in it and made the +heal aura raidwide and added another targetted +heal effect that gets applied with ur hots |
| 07:40.06 | Diao | based on how many hots |
| 07:40.13 | Diao | is disgustingly good |
| 07:40.21 | cnc|work | ya, same for ToL too now imo |
| 07:40.29 | cnc|work | kinda makes haste useless though |
| 07:40.36 | Diao | 1 sec gcd on lifebloom |
| 07:40.38 | Diao | hello arenas |
| 07:40.41 | Aiiane | oh, whoops |
| 07:40.45 | Aiiane | didnt see you say "Cooldown" |
| 07:40.49 | Aiiane | my bad, its getting late :P |
| 07:40.58 | Diao | oh |
| 07:41.02 | Diao | and the other one |
| 07:41.07 | Diao | that "restores" mana rage energy and runic power |
| 07:41.09 | Diao | whenever hots tick |
| 07:41.14 | Diao | that's also ridiculously good |
| 07:41.16 | cnc|work | thats only for rejuv iirc ? |
| 07:41.23 | Diao | oh is it |
| 07:41.28 | Diao | either way, it's amazing |
| 07:41.31 | cnc|work | it was last time I checked |
| 07:41.37 | Aiiane | looks like the plan is to make every raiding spec imba :P |
| 07:41.41 | Diao | yeah lol |
| 07:41.42 | Aiiane | and then balance for imba specs :P |
| 07:42.04 | cnc|work | if they balance bosses accordingly Idon't see a problem there |
| 07:42.18 | cnc|work | if bosses power burn a lot you might need the mana restore from rejuv :p |
| 07:42.33 | Diao | yeah, but you usually rejuv the tanks, not other healers :P |
| 07:42.38 | Diao | though i guess you could cheat |
| 07:42.41 | Diao | and keep a r1 rejuv on every healer |
| 07:42.44 | Diao | to get the ticks |
| 07:43.04 | cnc|work | well, a r1 rejuv on urself wld also restore more mana then it costs |
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| 07:43.11 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:43.12 | cnc|work | but we can't forget that hot's dont tick at full hp |
| 07:43.18 | cnc|work | so if ur target is full hp it won't do shit |
| 07:43.36 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:43.37 | Diao | true |
| 07:46.18 | Aiiane | pally tanks rejoice? |
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| 07:46.23 | Diao | lol |
| 07:46.38 | Diao | also uh |
| 07:46.43 | Diao | i'm really wondering what will happen to judgement of the crusader? |
| 07:46.46 | Diao | since sotc is being removed |
| 07:46.50 | Aiiane | "screw you shammies, you dont give me WoA spelldamage anymore.... Helloooooooooooo resto druid" |
| 07:46.53 | Diao | and apparently "judgements are being rolled into the spells" |
| 07:47.01 | Diao | oh you didn't see Aiiane? |
| 07:47.09 | cnc|work | Aiiane: you'll need 2 shammy's for raidwide totems anyway |
| 07:47.10 | Diao | flametongue totem now gives spelldmg |
| 07:47.19 | Aiiane | oh does it now |
| 07:47.23 | Aiiane | i just skimmed the shammy notes |
| 07:47.25 | Diao | yep |
| 07:47.31 | Diao | so a useful fire totem finally |
| 07:47.35 | Diao | for raids |
| 07:47.40 | Aiiane | 10[00:45] cnc|work: 07Aii01ane: you'll need 2 shammy's for raidwide totems anyway |
| 07:47.48 | Aiiane | only if all of your raid is in a 30yd radius |
| 07:47.58 | Diao | also |
| 07:48.02 | Diao | salv being removed is lol |
| 07:48.07 | Diao | the new salv is painful |
| 07:48.08 | Aiiane | not removed |
| 07:48.09 | Aiiane | just reworked |
| 07:48.20 | Diao | salv is being removed in general |
| 07:48.24 | Diao | and changed into an emergency ability |
| 07:48.26 | Aiiane | new salv is the "oh look, warlock is getting too high on threat" |
| 07:48.30 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:48.55 | cnc|work | which is good |
| 07:49.05 | cnc|work | pew'pew'ing 24/7 without caring about aggro is bad |
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| 07:49.10 | Diao | i wonder how they're reworking salv |
| 07:49.16 | Diao | er not salv |
| 07:49.19 | Diao | threat in general |
| 07:49.23 | Diao | to make up for the loss in salv |
| 07:49.34 | Diao | but yeah, how is jotc gonna work |
| 07:49.37 | cnc|work | they'll probably give paladins an ability with a cooldown that reduces threat by X ? |
| 07:49.47 | Diao | i mean, ret pallies give a raidwide buff of 3% crit |
| 07:49.48 | Diao | with jotc |
| 07:49.52 | Diao | and removing jotc kinda kills that... |
| 07:49.58 | cnc|work | is the talent still there ? |
| 07:50.00 | Gnarfoz | you did read... |
| 07:50.00 | Fisker- | cnc|work they have given paladins that |
| 07:50.12 | Diao | they haven't shown the new pally talents on wowhead yet :( |
| 07:50.12 | Gnarfoz | that that has been rolled into another talent that affects *any* judgement? |
| 07:50.13 | Fisker- | it's hand of salvation |
| 07:50.33 | Gnarfoz | so as soon as a ret pally judges anything, that means +3% crit |
| 07:50.41 | Diao | oh really? |
| 07:50.47 | Diao | i didn't see that anywhere |
| 07:50.56 | Diao | i just read that they would roll jotc into the "appropriate skills" |
| 07:51.04 | Diao | which i assumed meant the +holy dmg/CS effect |
| 07:51.42 | Diao | and sanctity aura removed |
| 07:51.52 | Diao | i'm not sure what they are thinking with that |
| 07:52.11 | Gnarfoz | imp. ret aura has the effects of imp. sanctity aura now |
| 07:52.16 | Gnarfoz | read >_> |
| 07:52.36 | Diao | uh |
| 07:52.43 | Diao | i thought imp ret aura only did the 2% bonus from imp sanc |
| 07:52.48 | Diao | but they lose the base 10% from regular sanc? |
| 07:53.04 | Diao | 10% to holy* |
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| 07:53.30 | Gnarfoz | that might well be, perhaps they're removing SoC in the next push :p |
| 07:53.41 | Diao | haha |
| 07:53.43 | Orionshock | is the guy doing ru translations on IRC? |
| 07:54.45 | CIA-45 | 03ennuilg * r78669 10scorchio/libs/: |
| 07:54.45 | CIA-45 | scorchio: |
| 07:54.45 | CIA-45 | - Unneeded externals setting in ../libs, I think... |
| 08:00.52 | Zyndrome | http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Paladin |
| 08:00.54 | Zyndrome | jesus christ |
| 08:01.37 | Fisker- | christ your jesus yourself |
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| 08:03.58 | Zyndrome | holy whirlwind, hoooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 08:05.10 | cnc|work | Zyndrome: are paladins warriors now with "holy " before every skill / talent name ? |
| 08:05.44 | Zyndrome | yes |
| 08:05.49 | Zyndrome | go reroll if you're a warrior |
| 08:06.00 | Zyndrome | :p |
| 08:06.03 | cnc|work | I'm a druid :p |
| 08:06.55 | Zyndrome | Divine Storm - An instant weapon attack that causes Holy damage to up to ${$i-1} enemies within $a1 yards. The Divine Storm heals up to 3 party or raid members totalling $s2% of the damage caused. |
| 08:07.02 | Aiiane | go reroll anyways then you cycloning bastard |
| 08:07.09 | Aiiane | :P |
| 08:08.09 | Ellipsis | cyclones the + off of Aiiane |
| 08:08.23 | Aiiane | I didnt want it in the first place :O |
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| 08:08.32 | nevcairiel | All those changes to auras and totems etc that make them affect the whole raid kinda leave me puzzled .. mm |
| 08:08.33 | Ellipsis | you have the power to get rid of it :P |
| 08:08.39 | Diao | puzzled how? |
| 08:08.40 | Aiiane | cba |
| 08:08.54 | Aeyan | "Blessing of Salvation renamed Hand of Salvation, now reduces total threat on the target by 2% per second for 10 seconds while also reducing all damage and healing done by 10%. Only one Hand spell can be on the target per paladin at any one time. Now costs 6% of base mana. " |
| 08:09.02 | Aeyan | Rabble! Rabblerabblerabblerabble |
| 08:09.24 | Kuosi | buffing paladins = unreal |
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| 08:09.42 | nevcairiel | they'll nerf them before release, no worries |
| 08:09.54 | Aeyan | I need blessing of salvation =P |
| 08:09.55 | Kuosi | I mean if they rly keep going on like this |
| 08:09.57 | Aeyan | I -need- it |
| 08:09.58 | Diao | rogues are going to need a nerf for release |
| 08:10.03 | Kuosi | they might actually be viable in arena 2v2 and 3v3 |
| 08:10.07 | Kuosi | what with that?!? |
| 08:10.07 | Diao | all their talents are too good :( |
| 08:10.09 | Ellipsis | rogues need about 6 nerfs |
| 08:10.11 | nevcairiel | Diao: so will ferals rightn ow |
| 08:10.28 | Zyndrome | Aeyan , dont overaggro ;< |
| 08:10.36 | Aeyan | I'm a shadow priest |
| 08:10.38 | Aeyan | I can't help it =P |
| 08:10.39 | Ellipsis | Zyndrome, generate moar threat |
| 08:10.42 | Diao | lol |
| 08:10.46 | Aiiane | you get 30% innate reduction on threat in shadowform now |
| 08:10.48 | Aiiane | be happy |
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| 08:11.02 | Aeyan | Oh, shiny |
| 08:11.03 | Ellipsis | if one more crappy tank tells me that I need to "stop stealing all the aggro" ... |
| 08:11.09 | Aiiane | basically |
| 08:11.12 | Aiiane | shadowpriests get innate salv |
| 08:11.17 | Aiiane | and noone else gets salv at all :P |
| 08:11.18 | Aeyan | Alright, I'll tone down the rabbles a bit |
| 08:11.32 | Aeyan | Well, nobody threats quite like a shadow priest in full burn. |
| 08:11.32 | Diao | most other classes have built in threat reduction already |
| 08:11.34 | Kuosi | yes and its rly sp with 1500top dps needing the salv lol |
| 08:11.39 | Aeyan | I can make prot pallys cry if I want to, hehe |
| 08:11.40 | Ellipsis | hey...I'm a warlock |
| 08:11.45 | Gibbonz|Work | anyone know what changed to the friends list in 2.4.3 thats broken Teknicolor? :) |
| 08:11.58 | Aiiane | destro warlock threat reduction works well, amirite |
| 08:12.02 | Ellipsis | I take offense to that, I say if they give spriests innate salv they should remove the cd from soulshatter |
| 08:12.06 | Gnarfoz | just spam searing pain :p |
| 08:12.09 | Kuosi | dunno what's up with teknicolor =( |
| 08:12.14 | Aiiane | (my main's a 21/40 lock too) |
| 08:12.23 | Aeyan | Seriously though, with all the damage improvements to shadow priests on top of that we're gonna need something |
| 08:12.24 | Kuosi | Aiiane: feel for you! |
| 08:12.26 | Diao | locks already do too much dps! |
| 08:12.35 | Diao | :P |
| 08:12.41 | Kuosi | Now you might have to press the one button bit more tenderly |
| 08:12.54 | Aiiane | nah, now we just demand salv from the pallies |
| 08:13.22 | nevcairiel | for over-aggroing monsters they can still assign the new hand of salvation |
| 08:13.31 | nevcairiel | only that you do 10% less dmg in that time :P |
| 08:13.37 | Kuosi | Wish some class could tear 3k+ dps and have complete aggro wipe every 30s |
| 08:13.38 | Ellipsis | it's more like, instead of "spam-spam-spam-spam-spam-watch TV for a bit-spam-spam" we'll "spam-spam-watch TV-spam-watch TV-spam-spam" |
| 08:13.39 | Kuosi | OH WAIT |
| 08:13.41 | Kuosi | SHIT BM HUNTERS |
| 08:13.58 | cnc|work | SHIT <insert any class here> !!! |
| 08:14.08 | Ellipsis | um, no |
| 08:14.09 | Kuosi | bm are just retarded atm =( |
| 08:14.22 | Ellipsis | cnc|work has a fail |
| 08:14.29 | cnc|work | ofc I has |
| 08:14.33 | Kuosi | doing lol dmmg on any encounter by spamming one macro |
| 08:14.33 | Kuosi | gg |
| 08:14.41 | Ellipsis | also, I suspect nevcairiel's right - at least this way it will train dpsers by nerfing them when they get aggro happy, amirite? |
| 08:14.46 | Kuosi | while giving 3% dmg buf ofc |
| 08:14.52 | Kuosi | and having complete threat wipe |
| 08:15.20 | Ellipsis | I should just reroll hunter...they take what, 3 hours to level? |
| 08:15.26 | Aiiane | 2.5 |
| 08:15.30 | Aiiane | tops |
| 08:15.31 | Aiiane | :P |
| 08:15.35 | Ellipsis | well, I'm counting initial gear |
| 08:15.47 | Kuosi | badge xbow |
| 08:15.49 | Ellipsis | to be, say, kara-ready |
| 08:15.51 | Kuosi | and your rolling 2k dps |
| 08:15.51 | Kuosi | np |
| 08:15.54 | Zyndrome | I'm leveling a hunter alt :< |
| 08:16.00 | Fisker- | Ellipsis o hai |
| 08:16.02 | cnc|work | I'm rerolling a resto druid here <3 |
| 08:16.04 | Zyndrome | 6,5 days played, lvl62 |
| 08:16.08 | Ellipsis | Fisker-s Fisker- |
| 08:16.16 | Aeyan | They're changing so many old, core abilities that I'm not sure I'm even going to know how to play my crap anymore after 3.0.0, heh |
| 08:16.19 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' elite3vil |
| 08:16.20 | Fisker- | dmanit |
| 08:16.21 | Kuosi | I'm lvling a mage because they're so imba in both pve and pvp :( |
| 08:16.23 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis |
| 08:16.24 | Ellipsis | pwnt |
| 08:16.27 | Fisker- | no u |
| 08:16.30 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 08:16.35 | Fisker- | no u |
| 08:16.35 | Kuosi | (mainly lvling it so I can qq hard on the forums how mages are broken) |
| 08:16.39 | nevcairiel | mages and imba in pve? wait, did i miss the news? |
| 08:16.46 | Ellipsis | mages, imba? what? |
| 08:16.56 | Kuosi | yes they got water |
| 08:16.57 | Ellipsis | maybe for AE farming... |
| 08:17.03 | Fisker- | water is awesome |
| 08:17.10 | Ellipsis | water is cheap, gb2vendorschool |
| 08:17.15 | nevcairiel | in SW you dont even need them for buffing int |
| 08:17.22 | Fisker- | wut? |
| 08:17.43 | nevcairiel | there is this naaru buff that already provides the same amount of int .) |
| 08:17.50 | nevcairiel | (and doesnt stack) |
| 08:17.50 | Gnarfoz | doesn't stack? |
| 08:17.54 | cnc|work | lol |
| 08:17.55 | Fisker- | ah |
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| 08:17.57 | Ellipsis | does it stack with fort? |
| 08:18.10 | Fisker- | thought you meant Stormwind |
| 08:18.10 | Gnarfoz | lol, I always thought it would |
| 08:18.10 | cnc|work | thats like *leave mages outside please* |
| 08:18.10 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 08:18.10 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 08:18.10 | Aiiane | but imp fort is better than it |
| 08:18.10 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: but a improved fort is better |
| 08:18.13 | Fisker- | fail indeed |
| 08:18.14 | Gnarfoz | haha really that's a ticket to not take mages there |
| 08:18.28 | Ellipsis | "hai guise, welcome to sunwell...leave your buffers at the door (pallies ok, but will be nerfed next patch)" |
| 08:18.37 | Kuosi | well |
| 08:18.38 | Fisker- | pallies are always nerfed |
| 08:18.38 | Fisker- | ;( |
| 08:18.46 | Kuosi | sk brought pvp geared alt warlocks to sunwell prog raids |
| 08:18.49 | Kuosi | instead of main mages |
| 08:18.51 | Kuosi | says enough imo :P |
| 08:19.28 | Aiiane | yeah, mages need to l2p. er, um, *cough* |
| 08:19.29 | Aiiane | :P |
| 08:19.59 | cnc|work | Kuosi: thats, ehm, low :s |
| 08:20.05 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78670 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: koKR Update |
| 08:20.11 | Kuosi | but thats reality :D |
| 08:20.16 | Diao | lol |
| 08:20.23 | cnc|work | I'd be really pissed if I was one of those mages :p |
| 08:20.32 | Kuosi | it was the mages warlock tho! |
| 08:20.44 | cnc|work | so what ? |
| 08:20.51 | cnc|work | I'd want to do stuff with my main not with some pvp alt :p |
| 08:20.56 | Kuosi | so atleast he got to raid :P |
| 08:20.56 | Diao | same |
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| 08:21.01 | Kuosi | but yea |
| 08:21.13 | Aiiane | easy solution, swap mains to warlock :P |
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| 08:21.21 | Kuosi | think he has pretty much done so |
| 08:21.50 | cnc|work | proves mages need a buff though |
| 08:21.58 | cnc|work | I was a mage pretbc but got pissed when my mage got 70 and rerolled :p |
| 08:22.16 | Kuosi | wow eu armory is busy |
| 08:22.19 | Kuosi | didnt see this coming |
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| 08:23.31 | Kuosi | guess he hasnt completely stopped raiding on mage |
| 08:23.36 | Kuosi | has m'uru trinket on it atleast |
| 08:24.44 | Kuosi | but yea hope they do something on the mages |
| 08:24.51 | Kuosi | primary ranged dps lol |
| 08:25.10 | Kuosi | tho soon you wont see rogues in raid either |
| 08:25.18 | Kuosi | stack raid with 10 bm hunters np |
| 08:25.40 | Ellipsis | there's your ranged AND your melee |
| 08:25.42 | Ellipsis | problem solved! |
| 08:25.45 | Aiiane | bring a rogue for kicks |
| 08:25.50 | Aiiane | but just oen |
| 08:25.52 | Aiiane | *one |
| 08:25.53 | cnc|work | we'll see :p |
| 08:25.58 | cnc|work | beta always has imba stuff |
| 08:25.58 | Ellipsis | kicks and hemo |
| 08:26.01 | cnc|work | it'll get nerfed anyway |
| 08:26.07 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78671 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 08:26.07 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: Boss: |
| 08:26.07 | CIA-45 | - koKR Update |
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| 08:26.43 | Kuosi | well its no big secret that rogues has been brought to illidan just to loot legendaries anyway! |
| 08:27.16 | cnc|work | cld give em to ur tanks tbh |
| 08:27.31 | Diao | not if you use pally and druid tanks! |
| 08:27.32 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78672 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: koKR Update |
| 08:27.35 | Diao | ;p |
| 08:27.40 | Kuosi | god kills a kitten every time warrior loots glaive |
| 08:27.43 | cnc|work | WTB atiesh btw |
| 08:27.51 | cnc|work | they better bring it back |
| 08:27.55 | cnc|work | and WTB QUESTED legendaries |
| 08:27.58 | cnc|work | looted legendary loot is lame |
| 08:28.01 | Ellipsis | god kills Fisker- every time paladins get a legendary...oh wait |
| 08:28.09 | Ellipsis | damn :< |
| 08:28.18 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:28.29 | cnc|work | Ellipsis: some palas got hand of sargeras |
| 08:28.30 | Kuosi | there was a german guild who gave mh glaive to pala atleast |
| 08:28.38 | cnc|work | s/sargeras/ragnaros/ |
| 08:28.44 | Kuosi | they simply ran out of ppl to give it to |
| 08:28.46 | nevcairiel | paladins cant even equip the glaives |
| 08:28.49 | Gibbonz|Work | wonder why they felt the need to mess with sounds that were fine.. the mangle proc sound on flurry procs just dont sound right at all ;p |
| 08:28.58 | Diao | they must've had a lot of warglaives o_O |
| 08:28.59 | Kuosi | nevcairiel: thats the point |
| 08:29.02 | FinalX | wouldnt mind TF on my tankadin though |
| 08:29.07 | Ellipsis | it's kind of like people who get the druid staff from illhoof |
| 08:29.10 | Ellipsis | do it for the lulz |
| 08:29.17 | Diao | yeah, but at least people can equip that |
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| 08:29.30 | Kuosi | best part is |
| 08:29.41 | Kuosi | guild had one rogue w/o glaive who didnt make it to the raid |
| 08:30.02 | Diao | harsh |
| 08:30.17 | Ellipsis | ctrl-click is almost like equipping! |
| 08:30.28 | Diao | >.> |
| 08:31.30 | Fisker- | ~kiss Ellipsis |
| 08:31.31 | purl | ACTION forces Ellipsis to give pb_ee1 a big kiss on the forhead |
| 08:31.39 | Ellipsis | ew, translators |
| 08:31.48 | pb_ee1 | wtf |
| 08:31.54 | charon | i love how they rearranged FFF and feral charge... as if them swapping positions somehow alleviated the fact that FFF should be a bloody innate ability |
| 08:32.03 | pb_ee1 | Is Ellipsis a girl? |
| 08:32.06 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 08:32.50 | pb_ee1 | Hum then you're allowed :D |
| 08:32.56 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 08:33.01 | cnc|work | :o |
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| 08:33.04 | cnc|work | all males get out ! |
| 08:33.08 | Ellipsis | generally there are more questions to answer than that |
| 08:33.12 | pb_ee1 | hey |
| 08:33.16 | Ellipsis | like "why are you lying to me?" or at least "pics?" |
| 08:33.18 | pb_ee1 | i didn't ask for anything |
| 08:33.27 | pb_ee1 | --> purl forces Ellipsis to give pb_ee1 a big kiss on the forhead |
| 08:33.28 | Fisker- | ~kiss Ellipsis |
| 08:33.29 | purl | ACTION forces Ellipsis to give kadrahil a big kiss on the forhead |
| 08:33.41 | Ellipsis | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 08:33.42 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give omega a big kiss on the ear |
| 08:33.51 | Fisker- | ~kiss Ellipsis |
| 08:33.51 | purl | ACTION forces Ellipsis to give Civrock a big kiss on the neck |
| 08:33.57 | cnc|work | stop it |
| 08:33.58 | cnc|work | seriously |
| 08:34.02 | Ellipsis | no way, Civrock stole my sig |
| 08:34.03 | cnc|work | you'll end up kicked again :p |
| 08:34.05 | Ellipsis | no kisses for him |
| 08:34.12 | Fisker- | i never get kicked |
| 08:34.15 | Fisker- | I'M INVINCIBLE |
| 08:34.22 | pb_ee1 | Gee Elli is open minded xD she's kissing everybody (boo) |
| 08:34.22 | Ellipsis | except in the man-bits |
| 08:34.42 | Ellipsis | yes well, it's not cheating if the pants stay on |
| 08:34.49 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 08:35.01 | pb_ee1 | hey Ellipsis, why are you lying to me? at least pics? (just kidding) |
| 08:35.11 | Fisker- | So you could just cut some holes in your pants |
| 08:35.11 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 08:35.26 | pb_ee1 | That isn't very sexy :( |
| 08:35.27 | Ellipsis | hm, that makes me wonder |
| 08:35.49 | Ellipsis | vows to look up crotchless jeans sometime |
| 08:37.08 | pb_ee1 | inputs "crotchless" in Google Trad |
| 08:37.36 | pb_ee1 | "No definition found." Argh :( |
| 08:37.48 | Ellipsis | try an image search |
| 08:37.51 | Ellipsis | that should get the point across |
| 08:38.11 | Fisker- | i think it's important to remember the jeans part |
| 08:38.18 | Fisker- | I don't want to se no crotchless girls |
| 08:38.19 | Fisker- | see* |
| 08:38.47 | Fisker- | crosses the line obviously |
| 08:39.00 | Gnarfoz | hey cpt. obious |
| 08:39.19 | Gnarfoz | that's right, I obviously misspelled that intentionally! |
| 08:39.26 | Fisker- | Sup Captain Oblivious? |
| 08:39.38 | Gnarfoz | i'll obliviate you |
| 08:41.19 | Aiiane | maybe you typo'd it too |
| 08:41.23 | Aiiane | and really meant cpt. odious |
| 08:41.40 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r78673 10MoneyTrail/MoneyTrail.lua: MoneyTrail: add FBOH support, whatever the fuck it may be. |
| 08:41.54 | Aiiane | lol [Ammo] o.o |
| 08:42.01 | Fisker- | whatever the fuck is FBOH? |
| 08:42.02 | [Ammo] | someone sent a patch |
| 08:42.10 | [Ammo] | I dunno what FBOH is, must be some bag thing |
| 08:42.14 | [Ammo] | but never heard of it |
| 08:42.23 | Fisker- | FullBlown Obvious Hell? |
| 08:42.24 | Fisker- | :o |
| 08:42.26 | Aiiane | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13670.msg228424 |
| 08:42.38 | Aiiane | quick google points to that |
| 08:43.18 | Gnarfoz | no, I don't talk about you like that |
| 08:43.20 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de odious |
| 08:43.59 | [Ammo] | a bag addon that needs to do comms |
| 08:44.00 | [Ammo] | boggling |
| 08:44.01 | [Ammo] | ohwell |
| 08:44.45 | cnc|work | baggins <3 |
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| 08:45.43 | Aiiane | when in doubt, bind your spam dps key to Q |
| 08:45.47 | Aiiane | that way you can just QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ |
| 08:45.58 | Aiiane | and if you ever have problems, just QQ more |
| 08:46.04 | cnc|work | lol |
| 08:46.57 | CIA-45 | 03Zidomo * r78674 10Deadened/localization-koKR.lua: Deadened: fix r77937 commit; no longer throws error at logon in non-koKR locales |
| 08:48.10 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 08:48.14 | Arrowmaster | i already fucking fixed that |
| 08:48.52 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 08:50.16 | Arrowmaster | seems it was yet another bug the translators added |
| 08:50.25 | durcyn | translators are awesome. |
| 08:50.46 | cnc|work | translators need shooting and no svn access |
| 08:51.33 | profalbert | a "luac -p" pre-commithook would do it for most cases |
| 08:51.39 | charon | translators need a luac -p pre-commit hook |
| 08:51.49 | charon | too slow again *sigh* |
| 08:51.53 | Arrowmaster | actually that wouldnt have done anything for these 2 bugs |
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| 08:52.39 | durcyn | syntax is the least of the worries |
| 08:52.58 | Arrowmaster | since the first was from adding localizations to Deadened using AceLocale-3.0 and adding AceLocale-3.0 to the externals, but not adding it to embeds.xml so it never loaded |
| 08:53.27 | Arrowmaster | and it seems the 2nd was not putting a 'if not L then return end' in the local file |
| 08:54.14 | Aiiane | "if we havent used this file then don't use this file"? |
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| 08:55.53 | Arrowmaster | its for right after 'local L = LibStub("AceLocale-3.0"):NewLocale("Deadened","koKR")' |
| 08:56.17 | Arrowmaster | guessing acelocale-3.0 doesnt return a table for usage if the locale doesnt match the current one |
| 08:56.51 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78675 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: |
| 08:56.51 | CIA-45 | BigWigs_Naxxramas: |
| 08:56.51 | CIA-45 | - add guids |
| 08:56.51 | CIA-45 | - koKR Update |
| 08:57.04 | profalbert | I always put in an enUS-locale where every table-entry is "true" |
| 08:57.24 | profalbert | so it always returns a table |
| 08:57.52 | Arrowmaster | thats for registering the locale |
| 08:57.58 | Arrowmaster | not using it |
| 08:58.33 | profalbert | ah, right... forget what i said |
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| 09:14.23 | Elkano | omg ^^ epic fail/win http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh156/prettythings2buy/Funny%20Pics/oldlady.jpg |
| 09:15.23 | Fisker- | heh |
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| 09:17.50 | cnc|work | EPIC |
| 09:18.07 | Aiiane | haha |
| 09:20.03 | Arrowmaster | old |
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| 09:21.35 | Gnarfoz | your mom |
| 09:22.06 | cnc|work | Gnarfoz: that's Fisker-'s line |
| 09:22.22 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: I'm in your IRC, stealing your lines |
| 09:22.41 | Fisker- | your mother |
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| 09:58.20 | theoddone33 | death knight talents are weird |
| 09:58.32 | theoddone33 | "you gain 5 attack power for every 1000 points of armor" |
| 09:58.37 | theoddone33 | ?!?! |
| 09:58.54 | theoddone33 | I really need to get some strings pulled to get me in on this beta |
| 09:59.08 | Orionshock | lol |
| 09:59.53 | theoddone33 | how could I not roll one with schools named blood, unholy, and frost??! |
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| 10:00.30 | theoddone33 | they have deathcoil, heh! |
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| 10:01.29 | Groktar | people are such turds at theaters |
| 10:01.31 | Groktar | saving seats |
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| 10:02.02 | Groktar | after a couple minutes i just picked one and sat down |
| 10:02.08 | theoddone33 | people are the biggest problem with movies |
| 10:02.16 | Groktar | and told the guy to go bother security if he had a problem when he started bitching |
| 10:02.31 | Groktar | he shut up |
| 10:02.33 | Groktar | :) |
| 10:02.52 | theoddone33 | did it meet expectations? |
| 10:02.57 | theoddone33 | or exceed them |
| 10:02.59 | theoddone33 | or fall short |
| 10:03.00 | Groktar | ya, thought it was great |
| 10:03.07 | theoddone33 | cool, I'm really excited |
| 10:03.13 | theoddone33 | probably won't be able to see it until sunday though |
| 10:03.18 | Gnarfoz | what'd ya watch? |
| 10:03.22 | Groktar | batman |
| 10:03.39 | Groktar | normally i try to go to 10am showings |
| 10:03.45 | Gnarfoz | oh, gotta check if that's a worldwide start |
| 10:03.52 | theoddone33 | I go to the latest showing possible |
| 10:04.05 | theoddone33 | it's still crowded on opening weekends though |
| 10:04.29 | Gnarfoz | btw, ah, the beauty of numbered seats ;) |
| 10:04.30 | Groktar | pretty sure there's a 3am and 6am in fresno |
| 10:04.34 | Groktar | hehe |
| 10:05.43 | theoddone33 | 11 is the latest I tend to get around here |
| 10:07.03 | theoddone33 | wowhead is such a tease |
| 10:07.09 | theoddone33 | they have a link to death knight spells but it's a 404 |
| 10:07.14 | cnc|work | lol |
| 10:07.20 | cnc|work | I bet they did it on purpose |
| 10:07.34 | theoddone33 | so you'll start at level 55 and just... get 45 talent points right away? |
| 10:07.37 | Fisker- | no |
| 10:07.41 | Groktar | it says 0 |
| 10:07.42 | Fisker- | you have to unlock them |
| 10:07.58 | Groktar | i would just give 5 points per level |
| 10:07.59 | Groktar | ezpz |
| 10:08.13 | cnc|work | they unlock em via quests afaik |
| 10:08.18 | Groktar | ah |
| 10:08.20 | Groktar | that works too |
| 10:08.48 | Groktar | i would love to see them add quests for all the new spells in tbc |
| 10:09.03 | Groktar | er, wotlk |
| 10:09.07 | Groktar | whatever it is, lol |
| 10:09.16 | Gnarfoz | anyone care to share what the latest alpha build # was? |
| 10:10.51 | cnc|work | Gnarfoz: 51d2d98 |
| 10:10.59 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 10:11.08 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 10:11.17 | Gnarfoz | that's not a wow build # :D |
| 10:11.36 | cnc|work | you don't know ? they stopped using svn and starting using git, so now they using the git commitids instead of svn commitids |
| 10:12.57 | theoddone33 | ahhhhh death knights have a moonglade teleport slash astral recall |
| 10:13.02 | theoddone33 | that's super |
| 10:13.38 | cnc|work | teleports to where ? |
| 10:13.45 | cnc|work | strath ? |
| 10:13.54 | theoddone33 | their necropolis starting area |
| 10:13.58 | theoddone33 | above EPL |
| 10:14.01 | cnc|work | cool |
| 10:14.07 | cnc|work | with their trainers & stuff I supose |
| 10:14.12 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:14.15 | cnc|work | they kinda need it as there's no trainers in the regular cities :D |
| 10:14.27 | Gnarfoz | cnc|work: wtf are you on about >_> I'm quite sure their build #'s weren't derived from any svn data >_> sub 10k commits for something like WoW? yeah right :p |
| 10:14.37 | cnc|work | ~clap |
| 10:14.38 | purl | well, clap is "clip clap clop everyone claps file[laptop]'s amazing dancing and bkw_'s amazing singing" |
| 10:14.41 | cnc|work | Gnarfoz: ofc :p |
| 10:15.01 | Gnarfoz | so, 8471 then |
| 10:15.05 | cnc|work | dunno |
| 10:15.27 | cnc|work | WTB beta key |
| 10:15.34 | theoddone33 | heh how are they going to balance death knights in arena?! |
| 10:15.40 | theoddone33 | you can turn corpses into minions |
| 10:15.48 | Gnarfoz | wtb beta key indeed, but my question was alpha build # ;> |
| 10:16.04 | cnc|work | theodone33: how so ? |
| 10:16.16 | theoddone33 | what do you mean |
| 10:16.33 | theoddone33 | they have a spell that's instant cast with a 30 yard range that turns a corpse into a pet |
| 10:17.10 | theoddone33 | and if it was a friendly player's corpse they can control the ghoul for the spell duration |
| 10:19.11 | cnc|work | theoddone33: nice spell :p |
| 10:19.19 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:19.26 | theoddone33 | maybe it will have a long cooldown |
| 10:19.42 | cnc|work | I still fail to see why it wld need specific balance in arena though |
| 10:20.06 | cnc|work | its nice but the ghoul is probably only as good as any other pet |
| 10:20.08 | theoddone33 | I guess it'd lead to a lot of "kill the death knight first" |
| 10:20.16 | cnc|work | prolly |
| 10:20.20 | theoddone33 | unfortunately they'll have 3804309309 armor in pvp and a spell interrupt :P |
| 10:20.26 | cnc|work | nah |
| 10:20.42 | theoddone33 | they have a 45% armor increase self buff |
| 10:20.49 | theoddone33 | and wear plate |
| 10:21.18 | theoddone33 | that'd put them around 20k in pvp plate at 70 |
| 10:21.22 | theoddone33 | so I guess not that bad |
| 10:21.51 | cnc|work | they have ? :o |
| 10:21.55 | cnc|work | thats a damn nice buff :p |
| 10:22.03 | theoddone33 | they're a caster tanking class |
| 10:22.06 | cnc|work | logical for pve, they don't have shield block |
| 10:22.08 | theoddone33 | apparently |
| 10:22.15 | cnc|work | though, they're removing crushing blows, so shield block is pointless anyway |
| 10:22.20 | Groktar | ya |
| 10:22.30 | Groktar | shield block looks pretty pointless for warriors |
| 10:22.33 | cnc|work | guess warriors & pala are just left in the dust :p |
| 10:22.42 | cnc|work | warriors mainly |
| 10:22.47 | cnc|work | holy shield still useful for threat |
| 10:22.48 | theoddone33 | Sacrifice an undead minion, healing the Death knight for 1200 health. |
| 10:22.51 | theoddone33 | heh, there we go |
| 10:23.07 | theoddone33 | raise your buddy's corpse as a ghoul, then sacrifice him right away for a heal :P |
| 10:23.11 | Groktar | warriors look like a lot more fun to aoe tank with |
| 10:23.20 | cnc|work | Groktar: what they adding? |
| 10:23.30 | Groktar | aoe cone stun that does high threat |
| 10:23.39 | cnc|work | cd ? |
| 10:23.40 | Groktar | and what appears to be a spammable aoe that hits 5 targets |
| 10:23.49 | Groktar | and does a small bleed |
| 10:24.01 | Groktar | only hits targets in melee tho |
| 10:24.09 | cnc|work | ofc it only hits targets in melee :p |
| 10:24.12 | Groktar | it was like 20 or 30 seconds |
| 10:24.12 | cnc|work | warrs are a melee class |
| 10:24.16 | Groktar | well, i said aoe |
| 10:24.25 | Groktar | so i figured i should be more specific |
| 10:24.26 | theoddone33 | Place a mark of blood on an enemy. whenever the marked target is healed, all party members receive 5% of that healing (up to a maximum of 5% of the Death Knight's health). if a marked target that grants experience or honor is killed, all party members are healed for 10% of their total health. |
| 10:24.30 | Groktar | like the stun isn't melee only |
| 10:24.31 | theoddone33 | that's cool |
| 10:24.52 | Groktar | imagine that shit door tanking muru |
| 10:25.01 | Groktar | mobs come in, aoe stun |
| 10:25.02 | Groktar | tc |
| 10:25.05 | Groktar | bloodbath |
| 10:25.15 | cnc|work | or just get a pallytank |
| 10:25.31 | Groktar | i don't see the point of a pally tank on doors |
| 10:26.00 | cnc|work | just talking out of my ass |
| 10:26.02 | Groktar | hehe |
| 10:26.18 | Groktar | pallies still fall behind on single target threat |
| 10:26.30 | cnc|work | not rly |
| 10:26.40 | cnc|work | how much threat a warrior sustains? |
| 10:26.47 | Groktar | 1500+ |
| 10:26.51 | cnc|work | can sustain 1k - 1.2k ish on my pally with crap gear (kara epix) |
| 10:26.57 | Groktar | bullshit |
| 10:27.44 | theoddone33 | paladin threat generation stat is easier to stack than block value?? |
| 10:28.15 | Groktar | only retards stack block value for threat |
| 10:28.15 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78677 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Fix Decimate |
| 10:28.28 | theoddone33 | yeah I don't play a tank |
| 10:28.38 | Funkeh` | how many times will you fix decimate |
| 10:28.39 | Groktar | best scaling is in expertise followed by hit |
| 10:28.56 | theoddone33 | but you can cap both of those |
| 10:29.10 | theoddone33 | there's not a cap on paladin threat from spell damage |
| 10:29.13 | theoddone33 | that I'm aware of |
| 10:29.14 | Groktar | but you're not realisically going to do that |
| 10:29.35 | theoddone33 | yeah staying alive is a big consideration with both |
| 10:29.42 | cnc|work | well, how much spelldmg does a high end caster wep give ? |
| 10:29.44 | cnc|work | 400ish ? |
| 10:29.51 | Groktar | 266 |
| 10:30.02 | Groktar | and then +40 |
| 10:30.04 | theoddone33 | so 300 with chant |
| 10:30.05 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:30.17 | Groktar | we do use prot paladins |
| 10:30.26 | Groktar | and they have the best gear in the game |
| 10:30.31 | theoddone33 | and sotc used to increase spell damage |
| 10:30.37 | theoddone33 | jotc even |
| 10:30.48 | theoddone33 | I am pretty sure it still does though they've chnaged it around a bit |
| 10:30.50 | Groktar | and they do less single target threat than our warrior and druid tanks |
| 10:31.05 | theoddone33 | could be a mana issue |
| 10:31.09 | Groktar | nah |
| 10:31.35 | Groktar | anything t5 and beyond a pally has tons of mana |
| 10:31.38 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78678 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Fix Decimate |
| 10:31.46 | Funkeh` | what the fuck? |
| 10:31.47 | cnc|work | I'm pretty sure they shld be doing equivalent threat |
| 10:31.56 | cnc|work | slap it in a spreadsheet to be sure tbh |
| 10:32.38 | cnc|work | anyway, dinnertime |
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| 11:01.00 | Gibbonz|Work | hmm.. so tekkub uses github more that his own site? |
| 11:01.23 | Gibbonz|Work | than* |
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| 11:46.54 | Pkekyo| | he's a git |
| 11:47.00 | Fisker- | slaps Pkekyo| around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:47.09 | Pkekyo| | ~roulette Fisker- |
| 11:47.10 | purl | ACTION watches Fisker- pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 11:47.30 | Fisker- | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36747.html |
| 11:47.34 | Fisker- | ~roulette Pkekyo| |
| 11:47.34 | purl | ACTION watches Pkekyo| pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 11:47.45 | Pkekyo| | ZOMG DUKE NUKAM!!!!!!!1111 |
| 11:48.02 | Fisker- | yeah! |
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| 11:51.27 | CIA-45 | oUF_Ammo: highlight mouseover with pretty in pink |
| 11:51.27 | CIA-45 | fix raid to work, remove do return end at the top of Raid.lua to get spammed and get crappy frames |
| 11:51.27 | CIA-45 | several other small tweaks |
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| 12:13.35 | Lukian | Parnic, around? |
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| 12:22.37 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78680 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: |
| 12:22.37 | CIA-45 | BigWigs_Naxxramas: Sapphiron: |
| 12:22.37 | CIA-45 | - Fix missing Life Drain warn |
| 12:23.08 | cncfanatics | this guy is raiding naxx I guess ? :p |
| 12:23.56 | cncfanatics | oooh |
| 12:24.02 | cncfanatics | palas get 30 yards judgements |
| 12:25.09 | Gibbonz|Work | hehe, they do seem to have a thing for that mod atm |
| 12:25.53 | cncfanatics | pala talents look GOOD |
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| 12:29.55 | harl|away | where? what? |
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| 12:30.34 | cncfanatics | wotlk pala talents |
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| 12:30.35 | cncfanatics | look nice |
| 12:30.39 | harl|away | ah |
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| 12:31.30 | nevcairiel | Tree of Life (Restoration): You can now cast all Restoration spells (Healing Touch) in the form, but Tree of Life now only reduces the mana cost of your healing over time spells (Rejuvenation, Lifebloom, Regrowth and Flourish) by 20%. |
| 12:31.34 | nevcairiel | hm i didnt notice that before |
| 12:31.42 | Gibbonz|Work | long as 7destiny doesnt start messing with mods I use ;) |
| 12:32.31 | Gibbonz|Work | ive seen that.. some interesting changes listed in a thread on terenas tavern |
| 12:33.35 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: I at least said at least 4 times in this chan or in wowuidev |
| 12:33.40 | cncfanatics | was delighted when I saw that :p |
| 12:33.45 | nevcairiel | i dont listen to you |
| 12:33.45 | nevcairiel | ever |
| 12:33.47 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:33.49 | cncfanatics | :( |
| 12:33.51 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 12:34.35 | Fisker- | nevcairiel ! |
| 12:34.37 | Fisker- | my friend |
| 12:35.00 | Gibbonz|Work | thats bait if ever... |
| 12:35.11 | Fisker- | betrays nevcairiel when he least expects it |
| 12:35.28 | nevcairiel | i'll never trust you so you cannot betray me |
| 12:35.39 | Fisker- | yes i can |
| 12:35.48 | Fisker- | Because if you don't trust me then i'll do something good for you |
| 12:35.51 | Fisker- | thus betraying you |
| 12:35.53 | Fisker- | or something |
| 12:36.00 | nevcairiel | but how will that hurt me? |
| 12:36.13 | Fisker- | well you know not to trust me |
| 12:36.17 | Fisker- | with that you will be confused |
| 12:36.32 | Gibbonz|Work | dont see how ;p |
| 12:36.44 | Fisker- | stop it you're hurting my head :( |
| 12:37.20 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: what build u going for raiding in wotlk in current beta build ? |
| 12:37.44 | nevcairiel | looks at talent calc |
| 12:38.00 | Fisker- | you don't has beta |
| 12:38.08 | cncfanatics | they buffed tranquil spirit |
| 12:38.11 | cncfanatics | affects nourish now |
| 12:38.12 | Gibbonz|Work | they have raid dungeons up in the beta? |
| 12:38.56 | cncfanatics | Gibbonz|Work: no afaik |
| 12:39.34 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: speccing a resto druid is still so damn easy |
| 12:39.34 | nevcairiel | http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?druid=000000000000000000000000000230533312531522531153313510000000000000000000000000000 |
| 12:40.10 | cncfanatics | I'd take a point in nature's grasp instead of that point in natural perfection |
| 12:40.18 | Fisker- | i wouldn't get imp motw |
| 12:40.21 | Fisker- | then you don't have to buff |
| 12:40.22 | Fisker- | :D |
| 12:40.32 | cncfanatics | and i'd put the impr traquility points in in impr nature's grasp |
| 12:40.40 | cncfanatics | at least if tranq stays in its current form |
| 12:40.47 | cncfanatics | its not like I'm ever, damn , I wish tranq was off cooldown |
| 12:41.20 | nevcairiel | imp tranq reduces cooldown by 50% |
| 12:41.28 | nevcairiel | also wtf do you need natures grasp for in raiding |
| 12:41.37 | cncfanatics | its more useful then impr tranq imo |
| 12:41.44 | cncfanatics | do you ever need tranq when tis already on cd ? |
| 12:41.55 | nevcairiel | sometimes |
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| 12:42.15 | nevcairiel | if something hits you in raids, you are generally dead anyway |
| 12:42.20 | nevcairiel | natures grasp doesnt help you there |
| 12:42.25 | cncfanatics | well, nature's grasp is nice for 5mans |
| 12:43.06 | nevcairiel | you ask for raiding, not for doing 5 mans :P |
| 12:44.07 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 12:44.13 | cncfanatics | about that crit talent u put one point in |
| 12:44.33 | cncfanatics | wldnt u want more points into it for living seed? |
| 12:45.01 | nevcairiel | you'll probably get living seed with regrowth all the time anyway |
| 12:45.12 | nevcairiel | and 1% more crit doesnt matter for 65% already :) |
| 12:46.26 | nevcairiel | but i'll have to test most of the stuff anyway |
| 12:46.34 | nevcairiel | maybe i'll never ever use HT again |
| 12:46.40 | nevcairiel | so i could dump like 10 points |
| 12:47.54 | cncfanatics | true, nourish looks nice |
| 12:47.59 | cncfanatics | but well, HT will also be usable in tree form now |
| 12:48.04 | cncfanatics | might increase its usability a bit too |
| 12:48.10 | nevcairiel | its too slow |
| 12:48.35 | nevcairiel | and uses too much mana |
| 12:49.07 | nevcairiel | at least i dont have to unshift anymore for my big fat instant heal |
| 12:49.36 | cncfanatics | where wld u dump 10 pionts btw ? |
| 12:49.39 | cncfanatics | u'd have to keep tranquil spirit |
| 12:49.47 | cncfanatics | read it carefully |
| 12:49.50 | cncfanatics | also makes nourish cheaper |
| 12:50.01 | cncfanatics | I'd just dump naturalist |
| 12:50.21 | nevcairiel | 7 then |
| 12:50.29 | nevcairiel | naturalist and empowered touch |
| 12:50.37 | cncfanatics | cld keep empowered for a fatter instaheal ? |
| 12:50.45 | cncfanatics | its not like there is better talents to put em in anyway |
| 12:51.32 | nevcairiel | I would probably keep both |
| 12:51.38 | nevcairiel | because i dont need balance talents |
| 12:53.24 | cncfanatics | I wonder if we wld be able to get moonglow |
| 12:53.34 | cncfanatics | and eventualy lunar guidance too |
| 12:53.41 | cncfanatics | but u'd sacrifice too much probably |
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| 12:54.29 | cncfanatics | yep; totaly not worth it |
| 12:54.34 | cncfanatics | gift of the earth mother is too imba :p |
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| 13:08.57 | CIA-45 | 03Cybersea * r78681 10LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0/LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0.lua: LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0: added ruRU localization |
| 13:10.34 | Lukian | I have a brilliant bug for ag when he logs in this weekend |
| 13:10.48 | Lukian | Sanity Inventory kills agUF (ace3) :D |
| 13:10.54 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 13:10.58 | cncfanatics | how can a mod kill another ? :p |
| 13:11.03 | Lukian | try it out! |
| 13:11.10 | Lukian | :D |
| 13:11.24 | cncfanatics | at work atm, can't |
| 13:11.39 | Lukian | the (player, perhaps some other) frames aren't created |
| 13:11.40 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz |
| 13:11.47 | Fisker- | lets commit suicide together |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78682 10AtlasLoot/Constants/ (Constants.xml constants.ru.lua): |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:11.56 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU translation (not fully) |
| 13:11.59 | cncfanatics | git commit -a -m "suicide" |
| 13:12.03 | cncfanatics | like that Fisker- ? |
| 13:12.08 | Gnarfoz | /wrists |
| 13:12.08 | Fisker- | obviously |
| 13:12.09 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:12.15 | Fisker- | /wrists as well |
| 13:12.23 | Fisker- | ~roulette |
| 13:12.24 | purl | ACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger: Click! |
| 13:12.27 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:12.33 | Lukian | ~roulette |
| 13:12.34 | purl | ACTION watches lukian pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 13:12.39 | Lukian | winnar :D |
| 13:12.45 | cncfanatics | ok, we got rid of lukian :D |
| 13:12.50 | cncfanatics | ~roulette |
| 13:12.51 | purl | ACTION watches cncfanatics pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 13:12.55 | cncfanatics | and of me too :'( |
| 13:13.00 | Fisker- | ~roulette |
| 13:13.01 | purl | ACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger: Click! |
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| 13:13.14 | Fisker- | i win |
| 13:13.15 | Lukian | Gnarfoz your turn |
| 13:13.15 | Gnarfoz | ~roulette |
| 13:13.16 | purl | ACTION watches gnarfoz pull the trigger: Click! |
| 13:13.19 | Gnarfoz | ;> |
| 13:13.31 | Fisker- | ~roulette |
| 13:13.31 | purl | ACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger: Click! |
| 13:13.53 | profalbert | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.02 | Fisker- | ~roulette |
| 13:14.03 | purl | ACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger: Click! |
| 13:14.15 | profalbert | /msg purl literal |
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| 13:23.08 | harldephin | ~hug |
| 13:23.08 | purl | ACTION hugs harldephin |
| 13:23.22 | harldephin | thanks.. |
| 13:24.22 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78683 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: TabletLib: added ruRU translation |
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| 13:42.55 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78684 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/Locale-ruRU.lua: LibKeyBound-1.0: update ruRU translation |
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| 13:53.04 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78685 10TactikSOD/ (14 files): TactikSOD - ÑакÑика боÑÑов ÐÐ, Ð´Ð»Ñ ÑÑÑÑкоÑзÑÑнÑÑ
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| 13:53.52 | Gibbonz|Work | o_0 |
| 13:53.54 | Kalroth | wut |
| 13:54.14 | nevcairiel | wtf o.O |
| 13:54.20 | MoonWork | awesome |
| 13:54.22 | MoonWork | russian commits! |
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| 13:54.26 | Gibbonz|Work | the russian commit message, Kalroth :) |
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| 13:54.42 | Kalroth | spasibo! |
| 13:54.43 | Stanzilla | zomg |
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| 13:57.29 | Xinhuan | i'm surprised i could read that |
| 13:57.56 | cncfanatics | with read do you mean just have it displayed in ur client ? |
| 13:58.26 | Xinhuan | ya lol |
| 13:58.48 | Gnarfoz | why are you surprised by that? oO |
| 13:58.56 | cncfanatics | the wonders of utf8 |
| 13:59.32 | profalbert | god damnit, those stupid login-servers |
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| 14:05.13 | profalbert | oh my... my route to the wow-servers is fucked up... 6k ping in wow, 50ms to a random german website |
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| 14:06.06 | cncfanatics | profalbert: what hop u having problems it ? |
| 14:06.13 | cncfanatics | doing it through ssh might fix ur problem |
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| 14:46.23 | CIA-45 | 03sutorix * r78686 10FishingAce/ (FishingAce.lua FishingAce.toc): FishingAce: Fix accidental removal of target for lure. |
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| 14:52.30 | KriLL3 | is there an addon like linkloot that's still working? |
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| 14:53.47 | Cheads | Ludwig ? |
| 14:54.22 | KriLL3 | Cheads: was that in reply to my question= |
| 14:54.49 | Cheads | yeah |
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| 14:55.42 | Saroz | nevcairiel |
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| 14:55.53 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 14:55.59 | binder | ~~is there any word on what's making WAU crash? |
| 14:56.01 | Saroz | LibStickyFrames-2.0, no like? |
| 14:56.07 | nevcairiel | not at all |
| 14:56.07 | selckin | so, what's a good one to use instead of wua these says? |
| 14:56.22 | KriLL3 | binder: it's crashing on the drop of a hat for me also |
| 14:56.22 | Saroz | nevcairiel, how do you plan on doing snaps in BT4 then? |
| 14:56.31 | nevcairiel | maybe not at all |
| 14:56.32 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 14:56.35 | Saroz | meh |
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| 15:03.39 | Vulcanus | just pump up the DPI on your mouse and drag veeeeeeery carefully XD |
| 15:04.09 | Vulcanus | and tbh if you notice pixel imperfectness of more than 2 pixels, you need either weaker glasses or a life |
| 15:04.10 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 15:04.19 | Vulcanus | or a bigger monitor :p |
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| 15:06.31 | Gnarfoz | or you're just being an ass, also a possibility |
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| 15:07.02 | Vulcanus | I was joking d00d ;p |
| 15:07.20 | Vulcanus | I liked snap in BT3 too :) |
| 15:08.47 | KriLL3 | I wish you could do what I do in photoshop etc, arrowkey nudge em one pixel at a time |
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| 15:19.39 | fewyn | You could always just edit the saved variables couldn't you? Should make it super percise! |
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| 15:20.22 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78687 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother: clean up jmtbsang's crap a bit. next time submit a patch on the forums, this is terrible code. |
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| 15:22.32 | Yssaril | anyword if they sent out invites yet? |
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| 15:26.15 | Cheads | Yssaril their wording made me think they already did? |
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| 15:28.44 | Vulcanus | they forgot me though |
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| 15:36.04 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78688 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: |
| 15:36.04 | CIA-45 | sRaidFrames: |
| 15:36.04 | CIA-45 | - Save frame positions per frame setup (Will fuck up your saved positions, sorry - has to be done) |
| 15:36.04 | CIA-45 | - Use LibTalentQuery (only if available, no worries) to show specs in tooltips |
| 15:36.08 | Saroz | omg |
| 15:39.23 | Polytech | i have a question. AG_UF doesnt change health color of the target (mob in this case) when its tagged by other player. Only if you untarget and target this mob again, it shows correctly - grey color. Is it possible to make ag_uf act like default blizzard target frame - to change health color without retargeting when mob is tagged? |
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| 15:52.50 | binder | i thought onebank used to be able to show your bank away from the bank |
| 15:53.36 | CrazyBenny | you need OneView to do that |
| 15:54.00 | charon | Polytech: hint, you can make ag's job much easier if you install the excellent devtools and use /dteventtrace to try and find an event that triggers on such a mob flagging |
| 15:54.17 | binder | ty |
| 15:54.25 | binder | think it used to be like onestorage |
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| 15:55.45 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 15:55.48 | nevcairiel | Saroz: ping |
| 15:55.58 | Saroz | mm |
| 15:56.07 | Kalroth | Saroz: pong |
| 15:56.20 | nevcairiel | what about some simple code to import my old positions into all groups or so? |
| 15:56.40 | Saroz | hrrrm, I guess |
| 15:56.51 | Saroz | but I changed how it was saved, but ye |
| 15:57.23 | nevcairiel | its still x y s, right? |
| 15:57.25 | Saroz | local tmp = sRaidFrames.opt.positions; sRaidFrames.opt.positions[sRaidFrames.opt.GroupSetup] = tmp |
| 15:57.26 | nevcairiel | only for every setup |
| 15:57.32 | Saroz | something like that |
| 15:57.33 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 15:58.52 | Saroz | local tmp = sRaidFrames.opt.Positions; sRaidFrames.opt.Positions[sRaidFrames.opt.GroupSetup] = tmp |
| 16:00.09 | nevcairiel | Hm your code has another flaw i think |
| 16:00.20 | Saroz | whats that |
| 16:00.21 | nevcairiel | If you switch to a new group which never had positions |
| 16:00.33 | Saroz | hrrmm |
| 16:00.36 | nevcairiel | i think itll error |
| 16:00.47 | Saroz | ye, will fix |
| 16:01.12 | Vulcanus | stupid CLEU, they swapped about some spellName and spellID params |
| 16:01.17 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78689 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Tweaks |
| 16:01.18 | Vulcanus | and I spent hours trying to figure this out :( |
| 16:03.00 | charon | uuh... please elaborate, this would likely affect every combat mod in existence? |
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| 16:04.22 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78690 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: some other fix |
| 16:04.57 | Kalroth | <CIA-45> nevcairiel * r78691 sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: fix to some other fix |
| 16:05.10 | nevcairiel | ~lart Kalroth |
| 16:05.10 | purl | cuts off Kalroth's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 16:05.13 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78691 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua: sRaidFrames: Migrate positions when renaming a set |
| 16:05.17 | Kalroth | ow |
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| 16:05.44 | Kalroth | Morning Cairenn! |
| 16:05.46 | Saroz | oh nice nevcairiel |
| 16:05.52 | CIA-45 | 03belazor * r78692 10Cryolysis2/core/events.lua: |
| 16:05.52 | CIA-45 | Cryolysis2: |
| 16:05.52 | CIA-45 | - Fix last remaining error with LibBars, it's commented out for future use |
| 16:06.01 | Cairenn | hi Kalroth |
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| 16:06.48 | nevcairiel | oh hey Cairenn was offline, how did that happen :) and uh, hi! |
| 16:06.57 | Vulcanus | charon: I dunno, but in CCBreaker, the spellID parameter is now the spell that got broken whereas the extraSpellId parameter is the spell that broke it |
| 16:07.00 | Cairenn | power was out |
| 16:07.05 | nevcairiel | ah that explains it |
| 16:07.06 | Vulcanus | same for spellName and extraSpellName |
| 16:07.11 | Cairenn | and hi back at ya :) |
| 16:07.32 | Vulcanus | this is for SPELL_AURA_BROKEN and SPELL_AURA_BROKEN_SPELL |
| 16:07.42 | charon | ah, so it doesn't affect other events? |
| 16:07.48 | Vulcanus | that I do not know |
| 16:07.58 | nevcairiel | Didnt they even document changing those two events? |
| 16:08.05 | charon | they document stuff? ;) |
| 16:08.08 | Vulcanus | I dunno, google failed me |
| 16:08.19 | nevcairiel | you failed googleFu imho |
| 16:08.23 | Vulcanus | :( |
| 16:08.39 | Vulcanus | I googled SPELL_AURA_BROKEN and it was all either wowace SVN source or stuff |
| 16:09.11 | Vulcanus | either ways, all I know is that CCBreaker was keeping soundly quiet about broken CC and now with the param swap it works |
| 16:09.27 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 16:09.31 | nevcairiel | it worked for BigBrother |
| 16:09.33 | nevcairiel | so someone had to know! |
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| 16:10.04 | Vulcanus | or they just analysed it quicker than me |
| 16:10.08 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:10.13 | cncfanatics | yo ppl |
| 16:10.17 | Vulcanus | hai |
| 16:10.39 | Vulcanus | since CCBreaker isn't my mod, I had only a basic idea where to start looking :p Plus I'm by no means a Lua champ XD |
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| 16:13.14 | CIA-45 | 03belazor * r78693 10CCBreaker/ (. CCBreaker.lua): |
| 16:13.14 | CIA-45 | CCBreaker: |
| 16:13.14 | CIA-45 | - SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED -> SPELL_AURA_REMOVED(_SPELL) |
| 16:13.14 | CIA-45 | - Swap spellId/spellName parameters to accommodate for 2.4.3 changes. |
| 16:14.11 | Vulcanus | I like it because it stores who broke what in a temp table, so if theres one person that repeatedly breaks stuff throughout an entire raid, I can yell at them at the end without having to take notes ;p |
| 16:15.57 | fewyn | Even know it's usually you Vulcanus! |
| 16:16.09 | Vulcanus | can has engrish? XD |
| 16:16.18 | Vulcanus | oh even THOUGH |
| 16:16.20 | Vulcanus | nah its not |
| 16:16.26 | Vulcanus | Im the guy screaming at the warlocks for being tards |
| 16:16.36 | fewyn | yea |
| 16:16.38 | fewyn | locks are tards |
| 16:16.47 | Kalroth | I agree |
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| 16:16.50 | fewyn | they only have to spam elements now tho |
| 16:16.55 | fewyn | so maybe they will fook up less |
| 16:17.08 | Vulcanus | though in all fairness one of our hex lord messups was a rogue applying deadly poison to the priest |
| 16:17.14 | Vulcanus | I didn't take that too lightly |
| 16:17.15 | fewyn | now where is my beta invite?! |
| 16:17.52 | NivFreak | sooo |
| 16:18.04 | NivFreak | archimonde fires from sunday night: http://vimeo.com/1359804 |
| 16:18.08 | NivFreak | tell me if I'm crazy |
| 16:18.15 | NivFreak | that seems broken |
| 16:18.38 | fewyn | without looking, I'm going to say you are crazy a.) you're here and b.) you have the word freak in your name |
| 16:19.33 | NivFreak | :P |
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| 16:22.29 | Saroz | I wish LibTalentQuery would maintain a cache |
| 16:23.32 | nevcairiel | change it to do so :P |
| 16:24.44 | CrazyBenny | NivFreak: we had the same...nice to see, that doomfires can be even more annoying :P |
| 16:24.58 | NivFreak | this was new to us |
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| 16:25.05 | NivFreak | we've been killing him for 1-2 months |
| 16:28.48 | charon | NivFreak: we had a pretty hot fight last night, too |
| 16:29.02 | charon | one healer stated he had never seen so many people have doomfire on them |
| 16:29.02 | binder | you guys remember a mod called ccwatch? |
| 16:29.08 | binder | is there something out there like that now? |
| 16:29.39 | nevcairiel | charon: maybe they are stupider as usual ? :) |
| 16:30.07 | Kalroth | unpossible! |
| 16:30.19 | charon | nevar. |
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| 16:40.39 | charon | is there an obvious way to map wowwiki icon URLs to something usable in SetTexture()? |
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| 16:40.43 | charon | like http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_QuestionMark.png |
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| 16:42.22 | erica647 | Can someone please give me the code to change the scale of a tooltip? I just want to add it to an existing mod that already sets positioning and anchoring |
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| 16:46.13 | Kazie | How do you browse your profiles in Recount? ... it doesn't seem like you can do that through the GUI .. :s |
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| 16:47.06 | FireAllianceNX | Where should I post Cartographer_Stats error message? |
| 16:47.22 | Kazie | In the Cartographer offical thread |
| 16:47.26 | Kazie | official* |
| 16:47.57 | FireAllianceNX | Thanks |
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| 16:57.10 | CIA-45 | 03trasher * r78694 10SpellReminder/locale/frFR.lua: |
| 16:57.10 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 16:57.10 | CIA-45 | - frFR update |
| 17:02.13 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: at 2minutes into that video is that a doomfire doing a 180 i see? |
| 17:02.48 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78695 10kgPanels/kgPanels.toc: kgPanels: updated toc for 2.4.3 since I added LibBroker support as well |
| 17:03.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats fucking broken |
| 17:04.12 | harldephin | pregnant anyone? |
| 17:05.14 | harldephin | ok.. guess not. |
| 17:05.50 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78696 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.toc: kgPanelsConfig: update to toc to mach main addon |
| 17:07.57 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: yea, twice |
| 17:08.38 | CIA-45 | 03ulic * r78697 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: |
| 17:08.38 | CIA-45 | LittleWigs: BlackMorass- Correcting my own screw ups |
| 17:08.38 | CIA-45 | ~lart ulic |
| 17:08.38 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses ulic's head to break the homerun record |
| 17:11.19 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: forum trolls on R&D are anoying |
| 17:11.29 | NivFreak | just lots of ony deep breathes more etc etc |
| 17:11.52 | NivFreak | and we got weird behavior like that every attempt |
| 17:11.56 | NivFreak | so we ended up walking away |
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| 17:24.01 | elite3vil | I think I'm going to be 1/70/0 in wotlk if I tank on my pally. >.> |
| 17:29.48 | selckin | 0/59/12 |
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| 17:32.53 | Vulcanus | 0/5/66 imo |
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| 17:33.37 | Vulcanus | amg, hide your variables and protect your classes! |
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| 17:55.04 | syeren | Can anyone help me update ShamanFriend for the Dispel Stuff :P? |
| 17:56.28 | NeoTron | it seems a small change to the lock tree removes the need for saccing a pet and instead making it the imp nuker spec |
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| 17:57.32 | NeoTron | maybe http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IcxZcxcZqcGqr0zVcAbsx |
| 17:58.55 | selckin | wpt supression? |
| 17:59.01 | selckin | *wot |
| 17:59.09 | syeren | Hmm, so. |
| 17:59.21 | syeren | What changes did they make regarding dispel effects being read? |
| 17:59.25 | NivFreak | did anyone get a beta key yet? |
| 17:59.25 | NeoTron | it'd be a corruption/immo/incinerate + imp build |
| 18:02.06 | NeoTron | ooh I thought they nerfed Fel Armor but they buffed it |
| 18:02.14 | NeoTron | 180 dmg + 30% of spirit + 30% regen while casting |
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| 18:02.36 | NeoTron | combined with imp soul leech (btw that is an idea I posted to my blizz friend a while ago - soul leech returning mana) |
| 18:02.51 | NeoTron | that's a nice chunk of mana regen |
| 18:03.45 | syeren | Anyone here with a clue about coding? |
| 18:03.52 | syeren | Or just randoms like myself :< |
| 18:04.37 | charon | this is just the fan club, the coders are at #realwowacepeople |
| 18:05.04 | Ackis | there's no one in that channel :( |
| 18:05.36 | syeren | Ackis is a coder! |
| 18:05.49 | Ackis | I am? |
| 18:05.55 | syeren | I think! |
| 18:05.57 | syeren | SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED |
| 18:06.00 | syeren | Does that still exist? |
| 18:06.21 | syeren | SPELL_DISPEL |
| 18:06.30 | Ackis | no idea, best bet is to check wowwiki interface section, lists all that sexy stuff |
| 18:06.43 | syeren | :/ |
| 18:06.54 | syeren | Well I noticed all the addons which parsed Dispelling on your screen got changed. |
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| 18:06.58 | syeren | For some new code. |
| 18:07.05 | syeren | And ShamanFriend no longer parses Dispels. |
| 18:07.20 | Ackis | there were combat log changes |
| 18:07.25 | Ackis | I'm guessing it was removed |
| 18:11.28 | NeoTron | weird |
| 18:11.35 | NeoTron | shadowfury has a 0.5s cast time but can be cast while moving |
| 18:11.38 | NeoTron | bizarre |
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| 18:18.23 | kenlyric | man, chatter refuses to update player levels anymore |
| 18:18.29 | kenlyric | even when I do a direct /who |
| 18:18.43 | nevcairiel | maybe they changed the response text |
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| 18:25.18 | NeoTron | I wonder how they will address the imp's incredibly low health pool since it seems they want us to use it as a nuker |
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| 18:29.28 | Hjalte | One of our hunters just overaggroed on one of the fire elementals on Illidan, are there still some problems with FD and Omen? |
| 18:30.08 | NeoTron | likely |
| 18:30.25 | Hjalte | Is there anything he can do to make it better? He says he did a fast FD. |
| 18:30.29 | nevcairiel | Hjalte: if you dont stay down long enough, the FD doesnt wipe aggro |
| 18:30.40 | nevcairiel | but Omen still shows a wipe |
| 18:31.05 | Daemona | Hjalte dps both elementals alternating? and feign more? |
| 18:31.23 | Hjalte | Daemona: Yes, we are doing that, but one of our hunters failed. |
| 18:31.33 | Daemona | blame the hunter |
| 18:31.35 | charon | Daemona: half-decent pullouts coming up btw, i spent some time fixing the looks at least |
| 18:31.35 | Daemona | not omen? ;) |
| 18:31.52 | Daemona | charon its pushing errors for me :/ |
| 18:32.07 | charon | hmm |
| 18:32.09 | Daemona | dunno, am on-the-road currently, will be back at gaming on sunday evening |
| 18:32.19 | Matrix110| | any devs got Beta accs already? |
| 18:32.30 | charon | Daemona: any idea what the error message was? |
| 18:32.41 | Daemona | rumours are going in the german community that some guilds got up to 20 keys |
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| 18:33.00 | Matrix110| | You? :P |
| 18:34.46 | Matrix110| | Ill take that as a confirmation! |
| 18:35.18 | NeoTron | interesting |
| 18:35.20 | Daemona | http://www.3xms.de/wow/live/ |
| 18:35.33 | Daemona | live streaming early DK questing |
| 18:35.35 | NeoTron | they are moving imp to be the pet of choice for heavy destro locks... and fel hunter the pet of choice for affliction |
| 18:35.39 | Daemona | no i dont have a beta key :( |
| 18:35.48 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=improved+felhunter http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=54053 |
| 18:35.49 | Antiarc | Man |
| 18:35.55 | Antiarc | The beta's a 1.8gb download |
| 18:36.00 | Matrix110| | 2gb |
| 18:36.12 | Antiarc | Patch after download? |
| 18:36.18 | Daemona | yup |
| 18:36.21 | Matrix110| | No the client is 2gb here |
| 18:36.23 | Daemona | there is another patch after download |
| 18:36.26 | Matrix110| | Dling it aswell |
| 18:36.42 | Vangual | and a 9gb install |
| 18:36.43 | Matrix110| | or is the enUS client mysteriously smaller than the enGB client? :P |
| 18:36.46 | Daemona | 3.0.1 enGB is 2.04GB |
| 18:36.53 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/Untitled-1.jpg |
| 18:36.57 | nevcairiel | Saroz: you know what sucks |
| 18:37.04 | Saroz | mmm |
| 18:37.09 | Matrix110| | Antiarc please god extract the torrent :P |
| 18:37.16 | nevcairiel | Saroz: if i launch wow in german, i have all group sets and advanced state things in 2 languages afterwards <.< |
| 18:37.35 | Zyndrome | crap , thought I got beta-invite to WotLK but noooo I got Battlefield Heroes key :C |
| 18:37.36 | Fisker- | The torrent works like shit |
| 18:37.39 | Zyndrome | derp |
| 18:37.43 | Saroz | nevcairiel, that sucks |
| 18:37.46 | Vulcanus | ewgerman |
| 18:37.51 | Fisker- | seems like they have made the downloaders not interact with other clients |
| 18:38.06 | Matrix110| | I can DL from Blizzard ppl |
| 18:38.09 | Matrix110| | just no the http dl |
| 18:38.15 | Saroz | the states arent localized, iirc |
| 18:38.53 | Daemona | the blizz downloader is pain... cause it doesnt throttle upload and chokes itself :X |
| 18:39.02 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: 6% base mana seems like a lot for a pet |
| 18:39.02 | Matrix110| | I always thought enGB and enUS only differ in the server.wtf file |
| 18:39.08 | Daemona | but doesnt matter, behind a firewall anway and using http transfer only |
| 18:39.16 | Gnarfoz | that's why you don't use it :D |
| 18:39.17 | Daemona | http://i38.tinypic.com/eaidyt.jpg |
| 18:39.31 | Arrowmaster | Matrix110|: no enGB patches include all european localizations |
| 18:39.36 | nevcairiel | Saroz: you build them from the spell names |
| 18:39.41 | nevcairiel | and those are |
| 18:39.43 | Matrix110| | oh ok |
| 18:39.49 | Saroz | nevcairiel, ahh |
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| 18:40.06 | Gnarfoz | pff direct download ftw ;) |
| 18:40.23 | Gnarfoz | I wonder what kind of upstream speeds I'd see if I'd join the swarm again now xD |
| 18:42.37 | Daemona | i usually dont bother with the upload of the client ... |
| 18:42.57 | Daemona | cause i am on a 256kbit up connection ... if i enable p2p i cant do anything else but watch the downloader ;) |
| 18:43.40 | elite3vil | anyone else having issues with WAU crashing? |
| 18:43.41 | Matrix110| | I paid for WoW and pay for my subscription so they should provide the patches without me helping them to save bandwith... |
| 18:44.08 | Fisker- | they already do |
| 18:44.09 | Fisker- | also |
| 18:44.18 | Fisker- | You're paying for the gameservers not to save bandwitdh |
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| 18:47.51 | NeoTron | so Divine Shield => force field! |
| 18:48.09 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 18:48.36 | NeoTron | reduce damage taken by party/raid members within 30 yrd of the paladin by 30% |
| 18:48.57 | elite3vil | It'd be cool for stuff like felmyst where you're practically useless while she's on the ground |
| 18:49.17 | elite3vil | not so much for actually tanking though =P |
| 18:49.40 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:49.51 | NeoTron | but most holy priests pick points into prot |
| 18:49.54 | NeoTron | holy paladins I mean |
| 18:50.12 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: did you notice http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=27222 |
| 18:50.15 | elite3vil | Yeah, that was mostly for imp conc though, which they moved |
| 18:50.33 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: looks nerfed imho |
| 18:51.52 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: oh didn't notice |
| 18:51.56 | NeoTron | not realy a nerf overall I'd say |
| 18:52.02 | NeoTron | it just makes us need spirit |
| 18:52.22 | NeoTron | new fel armor => (180 + 30%*spirit) dmg + 30% regen while casting |
| 18:52.49 | Arrowmaster | honestly it seems weird, affliction has nothing like demo and destro do for spi to spelldamage |
| 18:53.29 | NeoTron | dude |
| 18:53.35 | NeoTron | destro doesn't have that either |
| 18:53.38 | NeoTron | they moved it into fel armor |
| 18:53.52 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=47893 |
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| 18:54.09 | Arrowmaster | as long as blizzard doesnt totally fail on itemization again and actually lets us have choice, im honestly looking at affliction/destro and skiping all spellcrit talents and gear and going for haste on gear instead of crit |
| 18:54.30 | Arrowmaster | check destro talents again, its there |
| 18:54.37 | Arrowmaster | very high up |
| 18:55.02 | Arrowmaster | Kindling Soul |
| 18:55.47 | Arrowmaster | but seriously Everlasting Affliction with a 20% bonus from spelldamage does look perty good |
| 18:56.03 | Arrowmaster | unless they nerf coeficients to hell and back AGAIN |
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| 18:56.34 | Vulcanus | nerf warlocks |
| 18:57.46 | Josh_Borke | psychic scream now costs 15% of mana?!!! :-( |
| 18:57.50 | Arrowmaster | with Eradication, stacking haste and dumping crit for affliction doesnt look that bad |
| 18:58.01 | Arrowmaster | Josh_Borke: whats it currently cost? |
| 18:58.07 | Josh_Borke | varies by rank |
| 18:58.13 | Josh_Borke | 15% seems steep is all |
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| 18:58.33 | Josh_Borke | and i hope they remove bosses who MC and then randomly cast spells |
| 18:58.33 | NeoTron | did you notice the new demonic sac? |
| 18:58.39 | Arrowmaster | new? |
| 18:58.39 | NeoTron | 20% haste, 10% spell dmg for 20s |
| 18:58.53 | NeoTron | it's like a trinket |
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| 18:59.04 | Arrowmaster | where? |
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| 18:59.09 | NeoTron | demo sac and then fel dom/master summon the pet again |
| 18:59.19 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53647 |
| 18:59.21 | charon | Josh_Borke: 15% of base mana isn't that much... druid shapeshifts are at 35% which is roughly 1k at 70 |
| 18:59.22 | Daemona | uhm ... i bet its BASE mana |
| 18:59.29 | Daemona | and most of your mana comes from gear no? |
| 18:59.35 | Arrowmaster | its always base mana |
| 18:59.51 | Arrowmaster | except they increased base mana a ton in wotlk |
| 19:00.07 | Arrowmaster | the 75 water returns like 14k mana i heard |
| 19:00.41 | DocZed | any comments about new tankadin stuff? |
| 19:00.48 | syeren | Anyone here with any knowledge of the 2.4.3 interface changes they make :P? |
| 19:00.52 | syeren | *made. |
| 19:00.59 | DocZed | i don't really undertand the 51pt talent |
| 19:01.03 | Arrowmaster | DocZed: do pallys have wotlk talents yet? |
| 19:01.14 | CIA-45 | 03barfolomeu * r78698 10/branches/FlightHUD/Locale-zhCN.lua: FlightHUD: Import locale changed from trunk. |
| 19:02.14 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: i don't see it in the tree |
| 19:02.44 | Arrowmaster | i only see the new Demonic Sac as http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53647 |
| 19:03.05 | DocZed | arrow |
| 19:03.11 | DocZed | go to wowhead homepage |
| 19:03.16 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I said that |
| 19:03.17 | DocZed | and click on the WOTLK link |
| 19:03.23 | DocZed | then go to talent calculator |
| 19:03.41 | Arrowmaster | there |
| 19:03.43 | DocZed | pally and hunter stuff is up |
| 19:03.49 | Arrowmaster | dont see 51 point talents for pallys |
| 19:03.53 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: pretty sure kindling soul is replaced with improved soul leech |
| 19:04.00 | NeoTron | and you obvioulsy need to shift+reload |
| 19:04.15 | NeoTron | you're using a cached version (happened to me too) |
| 19:04.58 | TecnoBrat | yea |
| 19:05.06 | TecnoBrat | unfortunately we use server caching |
| 19:05.14 | TecnoBrat | and since we are trying to get all of the data up as quick as we can |
| 19:05.20 | TecnoBrat | we are running into some caching problems |
| 19:06.08 | DocZed | i foresee needing a tank and a spellpower weapon for pally |
| 19:06.15 | DocZed | and switching between them |
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| 19:07.10 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78699 10AtlasLoot/ (AtlasLoot.toc Constants/constants.ru.lua): |
| 19:07.11 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:07.11 | CIA-45 | - update ruRU translation |
| 19:08.35 | CIA-45 | 03charon * r78700 10Omen/ (12 files in 5 dirs): |
| 19:08.35 | CIA-45 | Omen: Merge a revised version of the pullout branch |
| 19:08.35 | CIA-45 | This is still quite quirky. Among other things, it does not save |
| 19:08.35 | CIA-45 | anything between reloads, and the bar size is hardcoded. However, |
| 19:08.36 | CIA-45 | pushing it to trunk is probably useful for many and should get us some |
| 19:08.36 | CIA-45 | more feedback. |
| 19:08.45 | charon | sooo... let's see if that broke anything. :> |
| 19:09.53 | Industrial | What's the item called that you can enchant a head item to do haling, damage and mp5 with? |
| 19:10.05 | _rane | gl7ph of renewal |
| 19:10.16 | _rane | 7->y |
| 19:11.06 | Industrial | k |
| 19:11.13 | Industrial | asdf im not even revered lol |
| 19:11.45 | DocZed | reps: the TBC plague |
| 19:12.38 | Arrowmaster | wtf @ 11point BM hunter talent |
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| 19:13.17 | NeoTron | so WotLK raids could live with 4 locks |
| 19:13.19 | DocZed | hunter CoS ^^ |
| 19:13.45 | NeoTron | 2 affliction for frailty (although could be a destro lock), 1 destro for imp, 1 demo for demonic pact |
| 19:13.49 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah thats right we have to use fucking CoW in WotLK |
| 19:13.55 | NeoTron | no |
| 19:13.55 | NeoTron | CoR |
| 19:14.00 | NeoTron | fuck CoW :P |
| 19:14.12 | Arrowmaster | didnt they add an attack speed debuff to CoW |
| 19:14.12 | NeoTron | fraily buffs CoR armor reduction by 20% |
| 19:14.30 | NeoTron | oh they did didn't they |
| 19:14.33 | Hjalte | NeoTron: We were thinking an affliction, one destruction with frailty and maybe demonic pact and one demo with felguard |
| 19:14.40 | NeoTron | but that's thunderclap |
| 19:14.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah depends if they stack |
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| 19:16.59 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IcgMZcxZqcGqr0zVcibsx destro with frailty |
| 19:18.24 | Kappaccino | the new talent trees are out? |
| 19:18.50 | NeoTron | the current talent trees of beta yes |
| 19:19.07 | Kappaccino | is there one for death knight? |
| 19:19.14 | Arrowmaster | oh wtf |
| 19:19.16 | Diao | yes there is |
| 19:19.19 | Kappaccino | :O |
| 19:19.32 | Diao | who's to say destro might not be top raid dps in wotlk though |
| 19:19.32 | Zhinjio | Good morning, folks. |
| 19:19.34 | Arrowmaster | why the hell do they keep fucking up Suppression and Cataclysm |
| 19:19.39 | Kappaccino | i've been frozen since december |
| 19:19.53 | Kappaccino | sooo I'll pick up wotlk once it releases |
| 19:19.55 | NeoTron | Diao: it would seem to me all lock trees has potential now |
| 19:20.06 | Arrowmaster | they turned demo into BM |
| 19:20.07 | NeoTron | and it's liberating that they made sac demon a trinket |
| 19:20.12 | Diao | wow wtf |
| 19:20.19 | Diao | prot pallies get thunderclap |
| 19:20.20 | Daemona | see you in 3-6 month then Kappaccino |
| 19:20.22 | Diao | without having to use a gcd |
| 19:20.33 | Diao | that's pretty bs |
| 19:20.33 | NeoTron | consecrate doing attack speed debuf? |
| 19:20.38 | NeoTron | or what? |
| 19:20.45 | Diao | judgement spells |
| 19:20.51 | Diao | reduce melee attack speed of target by 20% |
| 19:21.15 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:21.16 | Diao | i guess warrs aren't needed to provide imp tclap |
| 19:21.18 | Diao | lol |
| 19:21.19 | NeoTron | so CoW likely won't be needed |
| 19:21.29 | Diao | and holy shield reduced to 8 sec cd |
| 19:21.32 | NeoTron | basically CoW, thunderclap AND pallies do the same attack speed debuff |
| 19:21.34 | Diao | so it's even better... |
| 19:21.37 | Diao | yeah |
| 19:22.02 | Diao | but uh |
| 19:22.06 | Diao | you should still have 2 locks with frailty |
| 19:22.08 | Diao | for cow/cor |
| 19:22.09 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: so sad, Fel Concentration still not changed...... |
| 19:22.12 | Diao | for maximum raid damage |
| 19:22.18 | DocZed | did you notice the mana cosy of max ranc consacrate? |
| 19:22.24 | DocZed | err spelling |
| 19:22.25 | charon | wow, it's possible to rewrite git-svn history to reconstruct merge history done by svn |
| 19:22.38 | DocZed | i think everyone will stick with current rank |
| 19:22.52 | Arrowmaster | Diao: if the CoW attack speed debuff doesnt stack with others then CoW is useless |
| 19:22.57 | DocZed | around 10% less damage for half the mana |
| 19:22.59 | Diao | no Arrowmaster |
| 19:23.11 | Diao | imp cow reduces more ap than any other ap debuff spell |
| 19:23.17 | Diao | and it is the only way to completely counter cor |
| 19:23.17 | Arrowmaster | guess what |
| 19:23.27 | Diao | the ap gain from cor that is |
| 19:23.30 | Arrowmaster | tell your warriors to spec imp demo shout |
| 19:23.37 | Diao | imp demo does less than imp cow by quite a bit |
| 19:23.45 | Arrowmaster | the boss will have less than 100 ap so who cares |
| 19:23.56 | Diao | it matters on some fights! |
| 19:24.04 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 19:24.18 | Diao | besides if warriors have to sac 5 talent points to spec it, why not just make a lock sac 2 points |
| 19:24.20 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: not useless. redundancy |
| 19:24.32 | NeoTron | right now when we do brutallus w/o a prot warrior we're pretty fucked |
| 19:24.45 | NeoTron | come wotlk we can use a pally or lock for the same effect |
| 19:25.36 | Diao | wow looks like marks is definitely a pvp tree |
| 19:25.41 | DocZed | well a dps war usually take ITC too |
| 19:25.48 | Diao | no raid viability |
| 19:25.56 | Diao | yeah but a dps warr doing ITC |
| 19:25.59 | Diao | loses a lot of dps |
| 19:26.05 | Diao | having to swap to battle to keep it up |
| 19:26.08 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/ccopy.jpg :V |
| 19:26.23 | DocZed | depends on the inc, on brutallus the tank is rage topped so nope |
| 19:26.39 | selckin | Antiarc: nerf |
| 19:26.47 | DocZed | but on other incs it just give more rage to the tank |
| 19:26.50 | DocZed | = more threat |
| 19:27.09 | Diao | huh |
| 19:27.30 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: bastard you only got a key because of a mod you dont even work on anymore |
| 19:27.32 | Fisker- | i h8 u Antiarc ;_; |
| 19:27.35 | Diao | lol |
| 19:27.41 | DocZed | not having the MT caring about TC = less rage spent and smoother TPS cycle |
| 19:27.48 | Antiarc | Nah, I was in the F&F alpha due to a guildmate with connections >_> |
| 19:28.48 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: HOLY SHIT I DIDNT EVEN SEE THAT IMPROVED FEAR! |
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| 19:28.57 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: gief key :( |
| 19:29.07 | Arrowmaster | should make it on immune too instead of just resisted imho |
| 19:29.23 | Zhinjio | hmm, thats a good point. |
| 19:29.39 | Zhinjio | I have a friend of a friend who works for blizz. maybe I should try and get in touch with him again. |
| 19:31.06 | Arrowmaster | TecnoBrat: are both ranks of improved felhunter suppost to be the same? (meaning blizzard bug or wowhead bug?) |
| 19:31.19 | NeoTron | so Sac demon is now a pvp only talent |
| 19:31.29 | Antiarc | And I suppose I'll be working on a Threat-3.0 ;) |
| 19:31.30 | NeoTron | there it could make sense to get 20% haste/10% spell dmg for 20s |
| 19:31.34 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: I had a thought for a chatter improvement, if you're still doing stuff with that |
| 19:31.37 | Antiarc | Needs a complete rewrite, I think |
| 19:31.40 | Antiarc | Yeah, I am |
| 19:31.46 | Antiarc | I just have had super little WoW coding time lately |
| 19:31.48 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: pvp |
| 19:31.51 | Zhinjio | is it possible to hook and filter out DND/AFK messages? |
| 19:31.55 | NeoTron | all trees have useful pvp stuff now |
| 19:32.01 | NeoTron | heavy demo + succubus |
| 19:32.09 | Antiarc | Should be, yeah |
| 19:32.11 | NeoTron | destro goes down in the conflag area for burst dps |
| 19:32.12 | Arrowmaster | all the 51 point talents are pvp |
| 19:32.19 | NeoTron | haunt is pretty nice |
| 19:32.25 | Antiarc | You mean the "you are now AFK" messages? |
| 19:32.38 | NeoTron | it's in fact prety damn hot |
| 19:32.41 | Zhinjio | no, the messages coming back from messaging other people who are DND/AFK |
| 19:33.12 | NeoTron | up front damage + 15% more dot damage for 12 seconds and then returning 20% of it as health |
| 19:33.40 | NeoTron | metamorphisis is less useful in pve but could have its uses (as a survivability thing) |
| 19:34.01 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: wheres haunt? |
| 19:34.07 | NeoTron | 51 pt affliction |
| 19:34.13 | Antiarc | Why would you want to filter those? |
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| 19:34.56 | CIA-45 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 19:34.56 | CIA-45 | - Nether Ray Fry, Tainted Core, Naj'entus Spine |
| 19:34.56 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: did they remove the spell that was suppost to be like that? that jumped to like 3 targets or something? |
| 19:35.02 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, is the new meter implemented in beta? |
| 19:35.07 | Antiarc | It wasn't in alpha |
| 19:35.08 | NeoTron | they fixed it |
| 19:35.09 | Zhinjio | because they're goddamned annoying. heh |
| 19:35.14 | Antiarc | I'm still downloading the beta |
| 19:35.15 | NeoTron | the new haunt replaces the old one |
| 19:35.21 | NeoTron | and imho is quite a bit better |
| 19:35.33 | Arrowmaster | old one seemed pvp only |
| 19:35.33 | Zhinjio | I have a few guildies that I talk to who regularly leave themselves dnd/afk for hours, even though they are still talking to me |
| 19:37.33 | NeoTron | agreed |
| 19:37.39 | NeoTron | old one was pretty band |
| 19:37.51 | NeoTron | this one basically just increases DoT damage from the lock by 15% |
| 19:38.34 | aestil | Antiarc: you were in the FFA? |
| 19:38.40 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 19:38.55 | aestil | so, are new people in the beta yet? or is it only FFA people atm? |
| 19:39.09 | Antiarc | Only FFA, but EU beta invites are going out |
| 19:39.23 | aestil | of course they are. EU gets everything first. |
| 19:39.27 | Zhinjio | FFA? |
| 19:39.42 | Fisker- | US invites already have gone out |
| 19:39.56 | Daemona | thats why i am here looking here at my empty email inbox twiddling thumbs aestil ;) |
| 19:40.02 | Antiarc | FFA = friends and family alpha |
| 19:40.05 | aestil | oh, in that case, screw blizzard for not sending me one. |
| 19:40.13 | aestil | Fisker-: you got a beta invite? |
| 19:40.25 | NivFreak | Fisker-: that makes me sad =( |
| 19:40.26 | Fisker- | nope |
| 19:40.32 | NivFreak | I wanted one |
| 19:40.48 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: if they reduced fel concentration to 3 points it would be perfect |
| 19:41.11 | NeoTron | agreed |
| 19:41.18 | NeoTron | so chaos bolt might be a pve ability too |
| 19:41.27 | NeoTron | 1.5 sec cast, 990-1256 dmg |
| 19:41.30 | NeoTron | at level 60 |
| 19:41.39 | NeoTron | that's more than 2x the base dmg of shadow bolt at l60 |
| 19:41.45 | NeoTron | but perhaps scaling makes it worse |
| 19:41.56 | NeoTron | and I don't see a higher rank of it than the l60 one |
| 19:42.05 | Arrowmaster | although its hard to get what i want in destro with an affliction build if im still going to grab imp imp |
| 19:42.30 | NeoTron | why would you grab imp imp? |
| 19:42.34 | NeoTron | that's the firelocks job |
| 19:42.41 | Arrowmaster | good point |
| 19:42.42 | NeoTron | you pick up imp felhunter and go to town with him |
| 19:42.50 | Arrowmaster | forgot that |
| 19:43.04 | NeoTron | I'm pretty excited actually |
| 19:43.11 | NeoTron | these talents have synergy and makes sense |
| 19:43.12 | aestil | Fisker-: how do you know that us invites went out already? |
| 19:43.13 | NeoTron | in all trees |
| 19:43.18 | Arrowmaster | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IcgM0urhkitczAoZE0hkr |
| 19:43.20 | Arrowmaster | fill in last point |
| 19:43.43 | NeoTron | you want imp drain soul dude |
| 19:43.50 | Arrowmaster | meh |
| 19:43.52 | NeoTron | there's no salv/tranquil air anymore so threat reducint talents ftw |
| 19:44.04 | Arrowmaster | i guess..... |
| 19:44.15 | NivFreak | tranq air is gone too? |
| 19:44.16 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 19:44.20 | aestil | which gem is the epic agi gem? |
| 19:44.25 | NivFreak | nice |
| 19:44.29 | Antiarc | I kinda wonder what they'll do with rogues |
| 19:44.33 | Arrowmaster | WoA is gone too |
| 19:44.38 | Antiarc | Since the whole "50% threat reduction with salv" was our trick |
| 19:44.46 | Antiarc | And now everyone gets a flat -30% more or less |
| 19:44.53 | NeoTron | locks get a flat 10% |
| 19:44.59 | Arrowmaster | with talents |
| 19:45.10 | NeoTron | our trick is, I believe, that our pets will take over part of our damage |
| 19:45.20 | NeoTron | destro + imp, aff + felhunter, demo + felguard |
| 19:45.34 | NeoTron | it IS liberating to not have to look at 21 pt demo |
| 19:45.49 | Daemona | the trick is: Paladins can do "lol i lower your overall thread for xx% and you do -10% dps for 10 seconds while i channel that shit" |
| 19:46.07 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:46.11 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: and all the healers getting smart heals means our pets get heals |
| 19:46.19 | NeoTron | yep |
| 19:46.20 | NivFreak | so, are they doing something drastic to threat mechanics, or are we going back to the pre-TBC ezmode tanking? |
| 19:46.23 | NeoTron | main issue I see is the imp |
| 19:46.30 | NeoTron | he has no health so any AoE will kill him outright |
| 19:46.39 | Daemona | no, we are going Horde only mode, no Blessing of Salvation |
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| 19:46.52 | NeoTron | tanks will generate more threat overall |
| 19:46.58 | NivFreak | <-- horde |
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| 19:47.00 | NeoTron | classes will have more threat reduction |
| 19:47.06 | NivFreak | so yea |
| 19:47.08 | NivFreak | ezmode tanking again |
| 19:47.09 | Arrowmaster | i seriously think tanking is going EZmode though |
| 19:47.15 | NeoTron | like SP's getting passive 30% reduction to dmg in shadow form |
| 19:47.28 | NivFreak | half the fucking tanks pre-tbc were fury :) |
| 19:47.28 | Arrowmaster | the deathknight stuff made it look like mitigation was not a priority anymore for tanks |
| 19:47.47 | NivFreak | well, it's pretty clear crushing blows are going aweay |
| 19:47.49 | NivFreak | away |
| 19:47.57 | NivFreak | 20 second talented shield block el oh el |
| 19:48.04 | NeoTron | wait what? |
| 19:48.05 | Arrowmaster | all the +defense talents are gone too |
| 19:48.13 | NeoTron | I think things will change |
| 19:48.14 | NeoTron | a lot |
| 19:48.16 | Arrowmaster | so whats with crit immuneity |
| 19:48.18 | NeoTron | and I think it'll be good |
| 19:48.31 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: you don't need anticipation now |
| 19:48.38 | NivFreak | 5% dodge > 20 defense |
| 19:48.43 | NivFreak | yes plz |
| 19:48.47 | Arrowmaster | i know but is gear even going to have +defense? |
| 19:48.51 | NeoTron | "Were sorry, but your Gmail account is currently experiencing errors. You wont be able to use your account while these errors last, but dont worry, your account data and messages are safe. Our engineers are working to resolve this issue." |
| 19:48.56 | NeoTron | nerf gmail wtf |
| 19:48.58 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 19:49.03 | NivFreak | at least the stuff in alpha did |
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| 19:50.14 | Arrowmaster | halp, i dont know what to do with the point in imp fear or the last point.... http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=IcgrzzrhkitczAoZE0hkr |
| 19:50.16 | charon | speaking of crit immunity, are the mob base crit chances going to change? i saw SotF now is up to 6%, so under the current rules ferals would never need another point of defense |
| 19:52.02 | Arrowmaster | hmm with now haunt and unstable affliction having cast times, fel concentration seriously needs buffed |
| 19:56.50 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if the demonic circle stuff will let us teleport over and over to the same circle without summoning a new circle after every teleport |
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| 19:57.56 | NeoTron | I wonder what expel magic is |
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| 19:58.17 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: 2-3 pts, affecting all affliction spells |
| 19:58.20 | NeoTron | should do the trick |
| 19:58.34 | Arrowmaster | they probably dont want it to effect fear though |
| 19:59.23 | NeoTron | true |
| 19:59.39 | NeoTron | "damaging affliction spells" |
| 20:00.05 | Arrowmaster | or just all channeled plus corruption, unstable affliction, and haunt |
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| 20:05.36 | Diao | seems like prot pallies are getting all warrior abilites for free |
| 20:05.45 | Diao | awesome |
| 20:06.54 | Arrowmaster | prot pallies are going to be the new main tanks since all the warrior population does anyway is MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS MS OVERPOWER! MS |
| 20:07.30 | Diao | lol |
| 20:07.41 | Diao | except ms spec is trash so it'll all be fury! |
| 20:07.49 | NivFreak | I don't want to main switch to my pally |
| 20:07.54 | NivFreak | I love my warrior =( |
| 20:07.59 | Diao | they basically made MS/slam useless in raids with the wf change |
| 20:08.06 | Diao | so all pve dps warrs will be full fury |
| 20:08.21 | NivFreak | Diao: makes more sense to me |
| 20:08.39 | Diao | arms is going to be mostly a dead tree for now |
| 20:08.43 | Diao | until they make some changes |
| 20:09.04 | Diao | everything past 31 is still crap, so pvp warrs will be 3x/3x/x probably |
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| 20:09.21 | Diao | there's no incentive whatsoever to go past 37 (at most) in arms |
| 20:09.49 | NivFreak | bladestorm is awesome |
| 20:09.58 | Diao | for solo grinding maybe |
| 20:10.01 | Diao | useless in pvp :P |
| 20:10.03 | NivFreak | not at all |
| 20:10.14 | NivFreak | and unrelenting assault is going to DESTROY rogues and hunters |
| 20:10.33 | NivFreak | plus stun duration increases for charge/intercept with bull rush? |
| 20:10.38 | NivFreak | there is a bunch of good shit in arms |
| 20:10.40 | Diao | useless |
| 20:10.40 | Diao | lol |
| 20:10.48 | Diao | have you tried arena in 2k+ bracket |
| 20:10.54 | Diao | that extra sec on stun is not worth 3 talent points |
| 20:11.03 | Antiarc | Mace stun disagrees! |
| 20:11.07 | Antiarc | BTW |
| 20:11.10 | Antiarc | Screw mace stun in the ear. |
| 20:11.13 | Diao | mace stun is way over 1 sec |
| 20:11.24 | Antiarc | Point being |
| 20:11.24 | Antiarc | Stuns are super helpful |
| 20:11.31 | Diao | no no |
| 20:11.31 | NivFreak | stuns + burst == win |
| 20:11.32 | Antiarc | And extended duration is good since everyone is getting -duration talents |
| 20:11.34 | Diao | a new stun is useful |
| 20:11.41 | Diao | because you can interrupt heals with it |
| 20:11.46 | Diao | extended duration is not so much |
| 20:11.56 | NivFreak | fury pvp will be interesting though |
| 20:12.00 | NivFreak | 2x2H weapon |
| 20:12.03 | NivFreak | with heroic leap |
| 20:12.03 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 20:12.06 | Antiarc | Mace stun should be a 0.5 sec stun then :x |
| 20:12.07 | Diao | lol |
| 20:12.14 | Diao | i wouldn't mind if it were 0.5sec |
| 20:12.17 | Diao | just long enough to get a hamstring off |
| 20:12.19 | Diao | and interrupt |
| 20:12.22 | Antiarc | See |
| 20:12.31 | Antiarc | An arms war can eat me in the duration of a mace stun |
| 20:12.35 | Antiarc | gg dodge being my primary defense |
| 20:12.41 | Diao | it doesn't matter anyway |
| 20:12.50 | Diao | because they'd normally try to hit you from teh back |
| 20:12.55 | Diao | which negates your dodge entirely |
| 20:12.57 | NivFreak | I love how there's someone QQing for every class |
| 20:12.59 | Antiarc | Well, yeah |
| 20:13.01 | NivFreak | it's just like the last xpac ;) |
| 20:13.06 | Antiarc | But while I'm not stunned, I can move too :P |
| 20:13.15 | NeoTron | omglockyeah |
| 20:13.17 | NeoTron | :) |
| 20:13.17 | Diao | lol |
| 20:13.21 | Antiarc | Meh, if I didn't QQ I'd be a bad WoW player :P |
| 20:13.23 | NeoTron | I'm quite excited about being a PET class again |
| 20:13.25 | Diao | fury/prot are great |
| 20:13.28 | Diao | arms is terrible |
| 20:13.30 | Diao | that's all i haev to say |
| 20:13.31 | Dashkal | Hmm, I'm a druid. So I guess I should QQ that I can see the nerf bat coming already? |
| 20:13.31 | NeoTron | like having pets for more than a buff |
| 20:13.45 | NivFreak | Dashkal: druids are getting nice buffs |
| 20:13.46 | Daemona | do i hear rogue QQ Antiarc ? ;) |
| 20:13.48 | NeoTron | and I can't wait to stack SPIRIT OMG |
| 20:13.53 | Antiarc | Yes, rogue QQ! |
| 20:13.58 | Antiarc | I mean, assassination will be awesome |
| 20:14.00 | Diao | rogue qq is funny |
| 20:14.01 | Antiarc | but qq my other trees! |
| 20:14.02 | ZealotOnAStick | So, I think I'll go start an outcry on the beta forums complaining about the cut of the Bard class from Lich King, and say something like "What, does Blizzard think it's ok to cut out classes now just because Warhammer Online did?" |
| 20:14.05 | Diao | best pvp class now |
| 20:14.05 | Dashkal | NivFreak: Looking at the new feral stuff, I am expecting a bigtime nerf |
| 20:14.07 | Diao | best pve class |
| 20:14.14 | Diao | and getting massive buffs in xpac |
| 20:14.21 | Daemona | i rather dont get why they nerf cheat death AND sinister calling |
| 20:14.25 | NivFreak | Dashkal: I would agree until looking at everyone else :) |
| 20:14.29 | NivFreak | it's sick |
| 20:14.30 | Antiarc | The cheat death nerf did a lot to reel rogues abck in |
| 20:14.32 | Dashkal | true |
| 20:14.37 | Dashkal | crosses his fingers |
| 20:14.40 | NeoTron | weirdest thing is I'll as for "divine spirit pls" |
| 20:14.42 | Dashkal | but berserk looks a bit over the top |
| 20:14.42 | Antiarc | I'm considering trying mutilate |
| 20:14.43 | Daemona | cheat death nerf -> less dps gems -> less dps gear -> less dps -> no need to nerf sinister calling |
| 20:14.48 | Antiarc | Because CD is pretty much worthless now |
| 20:14.50 | Diao | no |
| 20:14.53 | Diao | a rogue in full pvp gear |
| 20:14.56 | Diao | still gets good use out of CD |
| 20:15.00 | Diao | and that's how it should be |
| 20:15.04 | Daemona | or just screw it and back to combat pvp |
| 20:15.08 | Antiarc | I have to get like 450 resil to get 90% reduction |
| 20:15.13 | NivFreak | Dashkal: zomg last stand + dmg |
| 20:15.13 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:15.13 | Antiarc | Which means I have to gem for resil |
| 20:15.14 | NeoTron | life tap scaling with spirit, mana regen while casting, spirit*30% extra spell dmg |
| 20:15.16 | Diao | no |
| 20:15.17 | Antiarc | Which means I hit like a wet noodle |
| 20:15.24 | Diao | you can get like |
| 20:15.25 | Diao | 420 |
| 20:15.27 | Diao | without any resil gms |
| 20:15.27 | Dashkal | Last stand, adrenaline rush, beast within. One talent point |
| 20:15.31 | Daemona | haha 65.7mb patch after 2.04GB installer :/ |
| 20:15.41 | NeoTron | any "need X of a stat" is pointless to consider now |
| 20:15.47 | NeoTron | since at l80 you'll need more |
| 20:15.58 | NivFreak | Daemona: did you get a key, or just grabbing the client? |
| 20:16.02 | Diao | and 420 is still what |
| 20:16.04 | Diao | 8x% reduction? |
| 20:16.06 | Diao | that's plenty |
| 20:16.10 | Daemona | na, preparing for the big IF |
| 20:16.12 | Daemona | ;) |
| 20:16.23 | Daemona | we had guild beta keys for TBC, i am just holding my breath |
| 20:16.35 | NivFreak | my one concern is that all the healing/tanking classes are being diluted |
| 20:16.36 | NeoTron | you're in a top 10 guild? |
| 20:16.40 | Diao | diluted? |
| 20:16.40 | NivFreak | they feel a lot more similar |
| 20:16.44 | Diao | oh |
| 20:16.45 | Diao | yeah |
| 20:16.50 | Daemona | < For the Horde |
| 20:16.50 | Diao | they're getting crossover stuff from other classes |
| 20:16.53 | Diao | not much uniqueness |
| 20:16.54 | Antiarc | I'd be less irritated if rogue PVP gear was as good as warrior gear, offensively |
| 20:16.55 | NeoTron | NivFreak: which is good and bad |
| 20:16.58 | Antiarc | I mean |
| 20:16.58 | NivFreak | NeoTron: agreec |
| 20:17.04 | NivFreak | NeoTron: but it concerns me |
| 20:17.07 | Antiarc | My warrior has some stupidly good fear from arena |
| 20:17.09 | NivFreak | agreed even |
| 20:17.10 | NeoTron | doesn't really concern me |
| 20:17.11 | NeoTron | really |
| 20:17.14 | Antiarc | But rogue arena gear is mediocre offensively. |
| 20:17.27 | Daemona | NeoTron we were top5 till summer hit us on KJ progress ;) |
| 20:17.27 | NeoTron | ppl play the role they want, with the class they want, and it matters less which clas that actuall yis |
| 20:17.33 | Diao | it's a tradeoff |
| 20:17.45 | Diao | warriors get more offensive power for lack of defense |
| 20:17.55 | Antiarc | Wars also get massive HP pools |
| 20:17.58 | NeoTron | we're still stuck on M'uru |
| 20:17.58 | Antiarc | And plate |
| 20:18.01 | NivFreak | Antiarc: in arena? |
| 20:18.02 | NivFreak | lol |
| 20:18.03 | NeoTron | but we haven't been here for that long |
| 20:18.05 | Diao | lol. |
| 20:18.09 | Diao | 2k hp more |
| 20:18.10 | NeoTron | last night I think 33% or so phase 1 |
| 20:18.11 | NivFreak | my lock partner has as much as me |
| 20:18.12 | Antiarc | It's more than 10k HP and leather. |
| 20:18.13 | Diao | big deal |
| 20:18.18 | Diao | leather vs plate is not a big diff |
| 20:18.20 | Diao | except against other melee |
| 20:18.24 | Daemona | NeoTron stuck on muru after the 20% nerf? o.O |
| 20:18.31 | Antiarc | Yeah, which is like everyone in arena now :V |
| 20:18.35 | Antiarc | World of meleecraft, yada yada |
| 20:18.36 | NeoTron | Daemona: the dps wasn't an issue |
| 20:18.43 | NeoTron | we're still learning the fight |
| 20:18.54 | NivFreak | man |
| 20:18.55 | NeoTron | or rather dps wasn't the only issue/main issue |
| 20:18.59 | NeoTron | it's still a hard fight |
| 20:19.02 | NivFreak | I'm getting worried if I can hold a guild together now |
| 20:19.09 | NivFreak | people are starting to see how fast t6 will be replaced |
| 20:19.13 | NivFreak | content is getting stale |
| 20:19.21 | NivFreak | beta news everywhere |
| 20:19.22 | Daemona | NivFreak go softcore on em |
| 20:19.30 | Diao | guild has the wrong focus imo |
| 20:19.30 | NivFreak | I'm already casualcore ;P |
| 20:19.32 | Diao | we raid for fun |
| 20:19.33 | Diao | not for loot |
| 20:19.34 | NeoTron | will t6 be replaced fast? |
| 20:19.38 | Diao | we want to see it for the content |
| 20:19.41 | Daemona | openly ask if they want to push for stuff or leisure farm and twink |
| 20:19.45 | NeoTron | we raid to progress. loot is a bonus |
| 20:19.49 | Daemona | forcing and breaking a guild wont help you |
| 20:19.52 | NivFreak | Diao: raiding is fun until you're fighting archimonde for the 60th time and no one wants to do it ;) |
| 20:19.54 | NeoTron | we want to kill Kil'jaeden |
| 20:20.03 | NeoTron | regardless of when we replace gear |
| 20:20.12 | NivFreak | and I raid to see content, but not everyone has the same motivations |
| 20:20.17 | Daemona | NivFreak haha :) we managed 100 Archi wipes on the day of our first kill |
| 20:20.23 | Daemona | the corpse run is so damn fast :X |
| 20:20.24 | NivFreak | christ |
| 20:20.29 | NivFreak | it only took us 25 |
| 20:20.34 | NeoTron | it's strange |
| 20:20.35 | NivFreak | I fucking hate him |
| 20:20.37 | NivFreak | so bad |
| 20:20.41 | NeoTron | I'm kind of thinking now I need to stack spirit more |
| 20:20.54 | NivFreak | I think I'm going to call of hyjal until we kill illidan |
| 20:21.07 | NeoTron | and I sort of don't mind either |
| 20:21.09 | NivFreak | the doomfire bullshit really drove a nail in that coffin |
| 20:21.20 | NeoTron | doomfire change = made it easier |
| 20:21.24 | Daemona | well world 4th archi kill ... was kinda random back then |
| 20:21.24 | NivFreak | neo |
| 20:21.27 | NeoTron | unless you're really heavy melee |
| 20:21.30 | NivFreak | did you watch my video from sunday? |
| 20:21.31 | Daemona | fire starting IN the melees and crap |
| 20:21.44 | NivFreak | fires doing multiple 180s on themselves |
| 20:21.45 | NeoTron | replace melee dps. get ranged dps. win |
| 20:21.50 | NivFreak | crazy shit |
| 20:21.53 | NivFreak | we just called it |
| 20:21.56 | NivFreak | no kill this week |
| 20:21.57 | Daemona | and 5 shamans for tremor ^^ |
| 20:21.58 | NeoTron | from a ranged dps PoV fire has become mostly a non-issue |
| 20:22.17 | NeoTron | ibefore it followed you to no end. now it just kind of goes by you |
| 20:22.24 | NeoTron | the fire on supremus is more annoying now |
| 20:22.32 | NeoTron | in that it actually follows someone |
| 20:22.40 | Daemona | the trick on supremus is |
| 20:22.47 | Daemona | let it hit you once, so it stops following ;) |
| 20:22.52 | NeoTron | does it really? |
| 20:22.58 | Daemona | and well non-issue for ranged |
| 20:23.00 | Daemona | ;) |
| 20:23.03 | NeoTron | but it's not like it's HARD |
| 20:23.13 | NeoTron | just saying that the fire aspect itself is a bit more annoying there now |
| 20:23.18 | Daemona | we usually have like 5-10 death on supremus... |
| 20:23.24 | Daemona | but then again ... who cares on supremus |
| 20:23.27 | Diao | volcanoes are worse than fire on supremus imo |
| 20:23.33 | Daemona | they just overnuke in the fixate phase |
| 20:23.39 | Diao | esp when he spawns 3 right on top of each otehr |
| 20:23.43 | NeoTron | they can be painful |
| 20:23.48 | Daemona | e.g. stand melee on target change and get the 1 melee instagib |
| 20:24.26 | NeoTron | so this staff |
| 20:24.29 | NeoTron | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/ingameshots/loot/staff_staffofthegreatreptile.jpg |
| 20:24.45 | NeoTron | for a warlock means 243 more mana from life tap, 24(.3) more spell dmg and nromal spirit regen whatever that is |
| 20:25.21 | NeoTron | it almost feels like warlocks will be one of the classes that benefits the most from spirit now |
| 20:25.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh god. |
| 20:26.11 | ZealotOnAStick | I want to take whoever did the stat allocation on that staff . . . |
| 20:26.12 | NeoTron | the spirit => lifetap means 81 spirit 810 mp5 while tapping |
| 20:26.14 | NeoTron | holy crap |
| 20:26.27 | ZealotOnAStick | and shove a scale replica up their ass. |
| 20:26.31 | aestil | anyone know if turning in aldor rep gives sha'tar rep past honored? |
| 20:26.34 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: hm tekability updates take ages on the paperdoll, is there a command I can trigger an update with? |
| 20:26.37 | NeoTron | why? it's a pretty sick staff |
| 20:26.40 | aestil | i'm at 5999/6000 friendly atm with sha'tar |
| 20:26.56 | aestil | do aldor turn ints keep giving sha'tar rep? or is it just til honored? |
| 20:27.39 | ZealotOnAStick | how is it a "pretty sick" staff? Yay, load of haste, spell dam, and spirit. |
| 20:27.46 | ZealotOnAStick | No int, stam, hit, crit. |
| 20:27.49 | NeoTron | yeah/ |
| 20:27.53 | NeoTron | for leveling regen is good |
| 20:28.08 | ZealotOnAStick | on a level 75 item no less. |
| 20:28.21 | ZealotOnAStick | that's 2 slots as a caster with NONE of those stats. |
| 20:28.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Pass, thanks. Shadow Angsts can have it. |
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| 20:28.51 | ZealotOnAStick | and yes, I know about the Fel Armor change. |
| 20:29.11 | Arrowmaster | and the lifetap change? |
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| 20:29.35 | qwesto | aestil, only up till where you are now |
| 20:29.36 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah, theres also no new rank of lifetap yet |
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| 20:33.30 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: 810 mp5 from one item while lifetapping is nice. real nice |
| 20:33.39 | Daemona | aestil no it caps at 5999 |
| 20:34.24 | ZealotOnAStick | neotron - in sustained combat, whcih is all I really care about, precisely how often am I going to be lifetapping enough to benefit from 5 seconds of regen? |
| 20:35.17 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: it's a leveling item |
| 20:35.24 | NeoTron | when you level mana regen is nice to have typically |
| 20:35.41 | Arrowmaster | only if affliction |
| 20:35.47 | NeoTron | and I'm talkin about the 810 more mp5 returned from pressing the life tap button |
| 20:35.56 | NeoTron | life tap scales with spirit |
| 20:36.03 | NeoTron | spirit*3 to be exact |
| 20:36.24 | NeoTron | so 243 spirit per lifetap which, without haste, is 810 mp5 |
| 20:37.00 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=27222 |
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| 20:37.43 | Saroz | WTB LibRoster-3.0 |
| 20:37.55 | NeoTron | are they increasing debuff slots? |
| 20:37.59 | Saroz | they better |
| 20:38.02 | NeoTron | because locks alone are getting severan new slots |
| 20:38.09 | Saroz | paladins get a ton too |
| 20:38.12 | NeoTron | 40 is not enough by far |
| 20:38.16 | NeoTron | should be 80 at least |
| 20:38.30 | NeoTron | or it should be X per players in the raid or something |
| 20:38.31 | Arrowmaster | just watch they wont increase it |
| 20:38.48 | NeoTron | which would invalidate a lot of the affliction builds |
| 20:38.50 | Arrowmaster | and then half the specs will be useless because theres not enough debuff slots |
| 20:38.56 | NeoTron | today eevn using immolate can be an issue |
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| 20:40.22 | NeoTron | nto to mention deathknight and all the disease debuffs they bring |
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| 20:42.39 | winkiller | I wonder how many people will break their addons for live servers again because they add beta-specific stuff :P |
| 20:45.00 | Aiiane | ideally it'd be nice if things were implemented gracefully, so that for a version or two there's both beta and regular code, with a build detect to determine which to use |
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| 20:46.36 | Antiarc | Many people put beta addons in branches |
| 20:47.24 | Aiiane | or that |
| 20:49.54 | Saroz | what mod is it that shows stack traces when you get a lua error? |
| 20:50.19 | Daemona | bugsack does that, no? |
| 20:50.33 | Aiiane | bugsack, swatter, most other bug-catching mods |
| 20:50.39 | Saroz | getting this fucking annoying error from AceEvent-2.0, but cant trace it to a mod |
| 20:51.03 | Arrowmaster | thats because aceevent-2.0 is broken |
| 20:51.05 | Arrowmaster | blame pcall |
| 20:51.10 | Saroz | ... |
| 20:51.13 | Saroz | fix it |
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| 20:51.21 | Arrowmaster | cant without removing pcall |
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| 20:51.28 | Saroz | tries to send some chars through the comm channels that it's not allowed to |
| 20:51.30 | Arrowmaster | since pcall destroys the error stack |
| 20:51.49 | Arrowmaster | normal chat or addon chat? |
| 20:51.51 | Saroz | hrm might be acecomm-2.0 |
| 20:51.56 | Saroz | addon chat I think |
| 20:52.00 | Saroz | sec |
| 20:52.03 | Saroz | gonna find error |
| 20:52.07 | Arrowmaster | only character not allowed is \000 |
| 20:52.36 | Saroz | SendChatMessage, Invalid escape code in chat message |
| 20:53.25 | dieck | hi! are parameters to functions references or copies? So if I have function f1 (varA, varB) varA = varA + varB end; and do vA=5; vB=7; f1(vA, vB); -- will vA be 5 or 12? |
| 20:53.36 | [Liq] | What's the latest popular "wardrobe" addon atm? |
| 20:53.56 | SunTsu | [Liq]: ClosteGnome |
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| 20:54.19 | Hjalte | He means ClosetGnome, which I also like :) |
| 20:54.58 | SunTsu | Hjalte: Right, what gave it away? |
| 20:55.03 | Arrowmaster | dieck: references, except because how Lua works in your example vA will be 5 |
| 20:55.46 | dieck | Arrowmaster: ok, but I give a table as parameter, I can directly add / remove entries from it? :) |
| 20:55.51 | Arrowmaster | lua> function f1 (varA, varB) varA = varA + varB end; and do vA=5; vB=7; f1(vA, vB); print(vA) |
| 20:55.52 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'and' |
| 20:56.00 | Arrowmaster | lua> function f1 (varA, varB) varA = varA + varB end; vA=5; vB=7; f1(vA, vB); print(vA) |
| 20:56.01 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 5 |
| 20:56.23 | Arrowmaster | dieck: yeah if you pass in a table and modify parts of that table then its changed everywhere |
| 20:56.31 | dieck | ok, nice |
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| 20:58.18 | Eritnull | who have dev access to Ace2/3 ? |
| 20:58.33 | Arrowmaster | why? |
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| 20:59.33 | Eritnull | need add russian lacalization to ac2/3..Because of absence of Russian localization the majority addons on Russian servers do not work! |
| 21:00.08 | Arrowmaster | post diffs on ace.pastey.net and link them in here |
| 21:00.11 | [Liq] | Isn't it just in English then? |
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| 21:01.39 | Eritnull | i posted localization here http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14265.0 |
| 21:03.06 | Stanzilla | that was already added to the branches version |
| 21:03.24 | Arrowmaster | you need to post a diff |
| 21:04.46 | Arrowmaster | and yeah nothing should be broken because of missing translations |
| 21:04.51 | Eritnull | I do not understand that to me there to do in ace.pastey.net |
| 21:08.29 | Eritnull | Arrowmaster i dnt know... but..then i add ruRU localization in to ace2/3 majority addons Has started to work |
| 21:08.57 | Arrowmaster | do they error without translations? |
| 21:09.24 | Aiiane | Eritnull: http://ace.pastey.net/ |
| 21:10.11 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: I think all he needs is a branches => trunk merge of Ace3.. |
| 21:10.20 | Eritnull | Arrowmaster: yes... |
| 21:10.30 | Arrowmaster | what are the errors? |
| 21:10.58 | Eritnull | 1 sec |
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| 21:17.21 | NeoTron | a long second |
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| 21:18.38 | Eritnull | 1 time EQCompare have error: "Interface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceAddon-2.0\\AceAddon-2.0.lua:25: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceAddon-2.0\\AceAddon-2.0.lua:23>\nInterface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceAddon-2.0\\AceAddon-2.0.lua:1055: in function `ManualEnable'\nInterface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceAddon-2.0\\AceAddon-2.0.lua:983: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceAddon-2.0\\AceAddon-2.0.lua:976>\n[C]: |
| 21:18.38 | Eritnull | ?\nInterface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceEvent-2.0\\AceEvent-2.0.lua:260: in function `TriggerEvent'\nInterface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceEvent-2.0\\AceEvent-2.0.lua:910: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceEvent-2.0\\AceEvent-2.0.lua:903> |
| 21:18.43 | Shirik | oi |
| 21:18.56 | Shirik | please don't do that >< |
| 21:19.27 | Shirik | I guess it was only 2 lines, you're semi-forgiven |
| 21:19.57 | Arrowmaster | was more than 2, it just has a bunch of \n's instead of real linebreaks |
| 21:19.57 | Eritnull | ) |
| 21:20.11 | Diao | lol |
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| 21:21.30 | Arrowmaster | Eritnull: is that using the latest Ace2 without any modifications? |
| 21:21.40 | Eritnull | Explain that on http://ace.pastey.net/ To do? |
| 21:21.46 | Eritnull | yes |
| 21:22.19 | Eritnull | more addons dont want correctly work in RuS WoW Realms |
| 21:22.46 | QuantumDelta | They have to be localised mate |
| 21:22.55 | Eritnull | need update more libs..Than now we also are engaged |
| 21:22.56 | QuantumDelta | use the english client on the Ru realms for now ;p |
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| 21:23.27 | Eritnull | enUS client dont have access to ruRU realms )) |
| 21:23.54 | QuantumDelta | you only need change the "realmlist.wtf" file to look for the russian realms |
| 21:23.59 | Eritnull | ruRU client dont have access to enUS/GB ) |
| 21:24.41 | Eritnull | if try to connecting to US/GB...dissconestion |
| 21:25.15 | QuantumDelta | I'll look into it then I guess, I don't see why the russian client would be unique, it works with the korean and chinese clients, the german, english and american clients too. |
| 21:25.23 | Eritnull | disconnection* |
| 21:25.52 | Arrowmaster | Eritnull: i think your AceAddon-2.0 is different than mine, the line numbers dont make sense |
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| 21:26.38 | Arrowmaster | does the error go away if you disable EQCompare? because I'm likely to blame EQCompare for this one and not Ace2 |
| 21:27.57 | Eritnull | Russian always differ)) Here have thought up declination in 5 cases of a name of the character) |
| 21:28.06 | Eritnull | now i fix that error |
| 21:29.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah im like 99% sure that error is from EQCompare |
| 21:30.04 | Diao | use tekkompare! |
| 21:30.52 | Eritnull | exampl: if inside addon folder are libs incl Ace2 not with ruRU... addon have ruRU..95% On a have error |
| 21:32.43 | Eritnull | Arrowmaster u are ace dev? |
| 21:32.48 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 21:35.00 | selckin | Does anyone have some combatlogs from after last patch? bt/mh/sunwell prefered, so i can test something |
| 21:36.06 | Zhinjio | brb |
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| 21:37.14 | selckin | please? :( |
| 21:37.45 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 21:37.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 21:38.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Did 2.4.3 break PANDA and Fizzwidget's Disenchant Predictor where they auto-loot the disenchant window? |
| 21:38.34 | Ellipsis | er...they haven't needed to do that for a long time |
| 21:38.44 | Ellipsis | blizz fixed autoloot for those a few patches back |
| 21:39.00 | ZealotOnAStick | well, something's breaking it for me. :/ |
| 21:39.06 | ZealotOnAStick | and it's only a recent change. |
| 21:39.08 | Ellipsis | maybe blizz broke it again |
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| 21:57.08 | Primer | Can addons override settings in Config.wtf? |
| 21:57.27 | Primer | It seems that there's this "simple chat" and "lock chat" in Settings, which are global |
| 21:57.29 | Shirik | sure |
| 21:57.52 | Primer | and that prat wasn't able to override, or at least I didn't see this option |
| 21:58.58 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn 07FrameworkIndependent * r78704 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0.lua: LibFuBarPlugin-3.0-Mod: fix silly global leakage in zhCN locale definition, LOSE_DESC -> CLOSE_DESC |
| 21:59.57 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: lol double check LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 too, its probably there too |
| 22:00.20 | durcyn | feh, i already banished rock from my filesystem |
| 22:01.36 | durcyn | son of a bitch |
| 22:02.04 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78705 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: LibFuBarPlugin-3.0: fix silly zhCN localization again |
| 22:03.24 | Arrowmaster | lol knew it |
| 22:04.00 | syeren | Any coder with a couple of minutes to spare :p |
| 22:04.17 | syeren | I know what I want looking at is fairly simple to fix, but I just don't know how to :< |
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| 22:04.52 | durcyn | just ask already |
| 22:06.18 | syeren | I know something got updated with Dispel in the combat log in 2.4.3 |
| 22:06.28 | syeren | Since then, Shaman Friend hasn't been able to detect or report purges. |
| 22:06.42 | syeren | I'm guessing it's looking for some event which has been replaced or renamed :p |
| 22:07.20 | syeren | SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED |
| 22:07.25 | syeren | Is what it's looking for I think. |
| 22:09.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah remove the AURA |
| 22:10.30 | syeren | So just SPELL_DISPELLED and it should work :)? |
| 22:10.34 | syeren | Thank you Arrowmaster :) |
| 22:10.43 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 22:10.47 | Arrowmaster | might be more changed |
| 22:11.28 | durcyn | SPELL_DISPEL |
| 22:11.31 | durcyn | not DISPELLED |
| 22:12.01 | durcyn | and some cc effects were moved to SPELL_AURA_BROKEN / SPELL_AURA_BROKEN_SPELL |
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| 22:13.47 | durcyn | the former being from physical attacks that don't have a spell ID |
| 22:13.59 | syeren | It's working perfect now thanks Durcyn :) |
| 22:14.13 | syeren | I guess I should upload the version I have to Curse now or something :x? |
| 22:14.47 | durcyn | just poke the author |
| 22:15.01 | Arrowmaster | are you marked as an author of it on curse? if not no |
| 22:15.32 | Arrowmaster | 'fan updates' that fix 1 bug and then sit there forever untouched suck |
| 22:15.38 | syeren | Oki doki. |
| 22:15.44 | syeren | Well I think the author isn't active anymore :p |
| 22:16.11 | netcurse | Syeren what addon? i can give you the email of the author |
| 22:16.19 | syeren | ShamanFriend. |
| 22:16.25 | syeren | I think it's in the Help. |
| 22:16.55 | netcurse | ok let me see |
| 22:17.08 | syeren | fredrik@eai.se |
| 22:17.09 | syeren | I think. |
| 22:18.23 | netcurse | he is playing AoC |
| 22:18.26 | netcurse | Last Active: |
| 22:18.28 | netcurse | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.38 | netcurse | http://my.curse.com/users/blueglyph/ |
| 22:18.39 | NivFreak | aoc sucks |
| 22:18.44 | NivFreak | I cancelled |
| 22:19.41 | netcurse | should not be a problem to send him a PM on curse and email him for ownership of the project i guess |
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| 22:20.47 | syeren | Thanks netcurse :p |
| 22:21.04 | netcurse | you are welcome |
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| 22:21.59 | Zyndrome | oh god |
| 22:22.08 | Zyndrome | I found cybersex in Zangarmarsh |
| 22:22.10 | Zyndrome | *screenshots* |
| 22:22.20 | Aiiane | .. |
| 22:22.37 | Dashkal | How can you resist the pure sexiness of fungus? |
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| 22:23.00 | Zyndrome | 2 nelfs getting it on in Telredor |
| 22:23.13 | Dashkal | heh |
| 22:23.20 | Dashkal | Are you at least on an RP server? |
| 22:25.11 | durcyn | they could at least have the common decency to go to the deeprun tram, for pete sake |
| 22:26.08 | Funkeh` | nothing wrong with a bit of rp/cybersex |
| 22:26.13 | Funkeh` | adds extra twist |
| 22:26.20 | Zyndrome | lol |
| 22:26.22 | Zyndrome | we barged in |
| 22:26.25 | Zyndrome | all like "yo whats up" |
| 22:26.35 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 22:26.41 | Zyndrome | and one of the RP'ers jumped off Telredor and died :D |
| 22:26.45 | Zyndrome | "OH FUUUUCK" |
| 22:27.09 | Zyndrome | they were cybering in a building there |
| 22:27.35 | Funkeh` | that's just evil |
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| 22:28.22 | Zyndrome | too bad they were just getting started, when a guildmate druid walked in in bear form, "yo Im hear for my winter sleep" |
| 22:28.57 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:30.13 | aestil_ | vithos: have T6 gloves now, and probably buy xbow this weekend. |
| 22:30.15 | aestil_ | http://armorylite.com/us/Darkspear/fdas |
| 22:30.25 | aestil_ | where to get legs upgrade? |
| 22:32.04 | vithos | kazrogal |
| 22:32.07 | durcyn | bow-stitched^ |
| 22:32.24 | aestil_ | yeah. kk |
| 22:32.41 | aestil_ | didn't drop last two kills. |
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| 22:34.20 | durcyn | hyjal pants drop rates are just plain bad |
| 22:36.16 | NivFreak | hrm? |
| 22:36.23 | NivFreak | we see a lot |
| 22:36.52 | durcyn | i think we had two channelled elements drop in 9 months of actually farming that hellhole |
| 22:40.23 | NivFreak | we've seen 3 |
| 22:40.27 | NivFreak | in like the last month |
| 22:40.40 | NivFreak | RNG ft |
| 22:40.41 | NivFreak | ftw |
| 22:40.48 | NivFreak | but I need 45 more HoD |
| 22:40.54 | NivFreak | and we got 4 from a clear this week |
| 22:41.00 | NivFreak | I hate you hyjal! |
| 22:43.54 | Aiiane | heh, yeah |
| 22:44.10 | Funkeh` | +EMOTE390_CMD1 = "/facepalm"; |
| 22:44.10 | Aiiane | wtb more HoD drops |
| 22:44.10 | Funkeh` | +EMOTE390_CMD2 = "/facepalm"; |
| 22:44.38 | Funkeh` | also, yey for ingame guild calendar |
| 22:44.50 | Aiiane | hm? |
| 22:45.22 | Funkeh` | wotlk stuff |
| 22:45.28 | Aiiane | aha |
| 22:45.57 | Funkeh` | +GAMETIME_TOOLTIP_CALENDAR_INVITES = "You have pending calendar invites."; |
| 22:46.24 | Funkeh` | +GAMETIME_TOOLTIP_TOGGLE_CALENDAR = "Click to show the calendar."; |
| 22:46.24 | Funkeh` | +GAMETIME_TOOLTIP_TOGGLE_CLOCK = "Click to show clock settings."; |
| 22:46.24 | Aiiane | just a note for now? or already implemented? |
| 22:46.24 | kaiden^ | armorylite.com.... that's sexy |
| 22:46.26 | Funkeh` | +HAIR_HORNS_COLOR = "Horn Color"; |
| 22:46.27 | Funkeh` | +HAIR_HORNS_STYLE = "Horn Style"; |
| 22:46.27 | Funkeh` | +HAIR_NORMAL_COLOR = "Hair Color"; |
| 22:46.28 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:46.31 | Funkeh` | oh draenei |
| 22:46.33 | Funkeh` | oh oh |
| 22:46.34 | Funkeh` | horns |
| 22:46.37 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:46.47 | Funkeh` | Aiiane, no idea |
| 22:47.58 | Funkeh` | +QUEST_PLAYERS_KILLED = "Players slain: %d/%d"; -- Lists the players killed for the selected quest |
| 22:47.58 | Funkeh` | fun |
| 22:49.27 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 22:49.33 | Funkeh` | there is like a ton of spellschools |
| 22:49.47 | NeoTron | such as? |
| 22:51.03 | Kappaccino | horns are hot |
| 22:51.09 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_CHAOS = "Chaos"; |
| 22:51.09 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_CHROMATIC = "Chromatic"; |
| 22:51.09 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_DIVINE = "Divine"; |
| 22:51.09 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_ELEMENTAL = "Elemental"; |
| 22:51.17 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_FIRESTORM = "Firestorm"; |
| 22:51.17 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_FLAMESTRIKE = "Flamestrike"; |
| 22:51.27 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_FROSTFIRE = "Frostfire"; |
| 22:51.27 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_FROSTSTORM = "Froststorm"; |
| 22:51.27 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_FROSTSTRIKE = "Froststrike"; |
| 22:51.40 | NivFreak | ok, I have the beta client installed now |
| 22:51.41 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_HOLYFIRE = "Holyfire"; |
| 22:51.41 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_HOLYFROST = "Holyfrost"; |
| 22:51.41 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_HOLYSTORM = "Holystorm"; |
| 22:51.41 | Funkeh` | +STRING_SCHOOL_HOLYSTRIKE = "Holystrike"; |
| 22:51.42 | NivFreak | wtb beta key |
| 22:51.43 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:51.46 | Neya | Just came to think of something, the achivements are on a per-character, aren't they? |
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| 22:52.07 | Funkeh` | there is more |
| 22:52.09 | Funkeh` | but ba |
| 22:52.12 | Funkeh` | cba |
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| 22:54.00 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 22:54.09 | Funkeh` | wonder what the "hybrid scroll frame" will be like |
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| 23:04.08 | joequincy | Anyone here good with chat functions? |
| 23:04.17 | joequincy | In-game, of course. |
| 23:06.30 | Shirik | what do you need? |
| 23:07.05 | joequincy | I'm working on a translator for Common to Orcish |
| 23:07.11 | joequincy | and back |
| 23:07.19 | Shirik | You realize that can get you banned, right? |
| 23:07.28 | joequincy | nope. didn't |
| 23:07.42 | joequincy | project hereby cancelled :P |
| 23:07.46 | Shirik | :P |
| 23:07.52 | reqol | specifically what controls the text of this portion of a waterfull gui?: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8733/titlebarls3.jpg |
| 23:07.53 | joequincy | ty for mentioning that yo me |
| 23:07.56 | joequincy | to* |
| 23:07.57 | Shirik | :) np |
| 23:18.33 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: ping |
| 23:23.04 | thul | pong |
| 23:24.02 | Ellipsis | licks thul |
| 23:24.37 | thul | mms. |
| 23:25.53 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r78706 10Cartographer/ (34 files in 15 dirs): Cartographer: added ruRU translation |
| 23:26.18 | thul | Ellipsis: do you think san diego has good steaks? |
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| 23:27.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Quaiche] by ChanServ |
| 23:27.11 | Ellipsis | probably |
| 23:27.25 | thul | I want to go to san diego |
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| 23:28.48 | Groktar | i'm amazing @ arena |
| 23:28.53 | Groktar | 3-4 in the 1500s bracket zomg |
| 23:29.16 | Groktar | if we win the next game we can be up to 1500 again! |
| 23:29.17 | Groktar | raar |
| 23:29.33 | Diao | why would SD steaks be any different from steaks in other places :o |
| 23:30.15 | Hjalte | Are there any rewards for doing the achievements in the wotlk? |
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| 23:32.11 | CIA-45 | 03toadkiller * r78707 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc ChangeList.lua): |
| 23:32.11 | CIA-45 | AutoBar: |
| 23:32.11 | CIA-45 | -- 2.04.02.56 beta |
| 23:32.27 | Vulcanus | detailed changelogs are detailed |
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| 23:32.53 | Vulcanus | Hjalte: not that I know of (yet), but I'm certain the Achievement Points will be used for SOMETHING |
| 23:35.38 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r4bd4859 10/: Add ruRUssian localization |
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| 23:37.38 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rbe00f1e 10/: Level req notes (I'm leveling too fast this time around, heh) |
| 23:38.34 | thul | Ellipsis: moar lick. |
| 23:38.39 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: weird schools |
| 23:38.41 | Ellipsis | licks thul |
| 23:39.09 | NeoTron | like hybrid scholls |
| 23:39.09 | thul | mohahaha.. the lickage! |
| 23:39.12 | thul | likes Ellipsis |
| 23:39.14 | NeoTron | I bet chaois is chaos bolt |
| 23:39.22 | NeoTron | but it says fire dmg |
| 23:39.48 | Ellipsis | chaos bolt isn't chaos damage |
| 23:39.55 | Ellipsis | only the new destro talent gives chaos damage (so far) |
| 23:39.58 | NeoTron | +STRING_SCHOOL_CHAOS = "Chaos"; |
| 23:40.10 | NeoTron | err. wut? |
| 23:41.14 | Arrowmaster | new spell schools are going to suck unless they change the current resist mechanics |
| 23:43.22 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=50796 |
| 23:43.32 | NeoTron | that is the "new destro talent" and it's fire damage |
| 23:43.41 | NeoTron | with school Fire |
| 23:44.58 | Aiiane | maybe chaos will become the school for boss damage that they don't want resisted |
| 23:45.09 | NeoTron | they really need to figure out ghow to handle soulshatter though |
| 23:45.16 | NeoTron | destro and aff spell hit is nice |
| 23:45.18 | thul | guttersnipe ghandi |
| 23:45.25 | NeoTron | but if soul shatter has a 3% chance to be resisted they are pretty wasted |
| 23:45.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah they should have just had 1 talent give hit to all spells |
| 23:46.04 | Arrowmaster | since the same applies to banish |
| 23:46.09 | Aiiane | *1 tier-1 talent |
| 23:46.16 | Arrowmaster | although that isnt as important as soulshatter |
| 23:46.17 | Aiiane | dont stick it at like tier3 in aff ffs |
| 23:46.21 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: like I just said, chaos bolt is NOT chaos damage |
| 23:46.44 | NeoTron | "only the new destro talent " <-- which talent? |
| 23:47.17 | Ellipsis | the one you pop to turn your next spell into chaos |
| 23:47.21 | Ellipsis | I don't remember the name |
| 23:48.12 | NeoTron | no no |
| 23:48.19 | NeoTron | that's been out of the game for months |
| 23:48.24 | NeoTron | it's replaced by Chaos Bolt |
| 23:48.35 | NeoTron | which has the same no-immunity mechanic but is its own spell |
| 23:48.40 | Ellipsis | ok |
| 23:48.41 | NeoTron | currently only a level 60 version |
| 23:49.03 | Ellipsis | that *was* the only use of chaos dmg, then |
| 23:50.15 | NeoTron | wow highest rank healthstone is more htan 2x of the previous healthstone |
| 23:50.20 | NeoTron | 4380 hp or so |
| 23:50.41 | Arrowmaster | yeah its the same as last expansion |
| 23:51.11 | Arrowmaster | everything is exponintial instead of linear |
| 23:51.18 | NeoTron | but it's not supposed to be |
| 23:51.24 | NeoTron | does the gear show the same? |
| 23:51.24 | Diao | i thought blues posted saying that stats wouldn't scale insanely |
| 23:51.31 | Diao | like stam did in bc |
| 23:51.36 | Arrowmaster | look at the graph of how much armor it takes to reach the 75% cap at each level |
| 23:51.38 | Arrowmaster | its funny |
| 23:51.56 | Groktar | it kind of has to be exponential tho |
| 23:52.05 | Arrowmaster | stats may not scale differently but itemlevels are taking a huge jump again |
| 23:52.15 | Groktar | but they have to |
| 23:52.16 | Arrowmaster | same with base stats |
| 23:52.22 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: where? |
| 23:53.44 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Damage_reduction |
| 23:53.46 | Arrowmaster | half way down |
| 23:55.12 | NeoTron | highest wpns in wowhead is ilevel 146 greens |
| 23:55.20 | NeoTron | ilevel 138 blues |
| 23:55.45 | NeoTron | but they are all quest items |
| 23:55.45 | Ellipsis | ilevels have to jump so that our stuff becomes completely useless |
| 23:55.48 | ZealotOnAStick | ~nickometer frostbyghte |
| 23:55.51 | NeoTron | guess they don't have non-quest rewards yet |
| 23:55.55 | ZealotOnAStick | purl is wrong. |
| 23:56.09 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: well I'd expect swp level gear to be reasonble for opening tier raiding |
| 23:56.40 | Ellipsis | like naxx gear was in tbc? :P |
| 23:56.52 | NeoTron | ilevel 159 blue cloaks |
| 23:56.55 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: correct |
| 23:57.17 | NeoTron | and you might have been sarcastic but t3 was reasonble as a starting point for karazhan |
| 23:57.37 | Ellipsis | yeah, I suppose |
| 23:57.44 | Ellipsis | as soon as you started getting epics though it went right out the window |
| 23:57.57 | NeoTron | sure |
| 23:58.49 | Kolie | anyone in warhammer and making addons for it? |
