| 00:00.44 | NivFreak | JoeOk: how old are you? |
| 00:01.18 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 00:02.19 | JoeOk | 16 |
| 00:04.11 | JoeOk | any of u guys see the thotbot new wotlk talents? |
| 00:05.16 | Wraithan | JoeOk: I understand some words are hard to spell so people spell them wrong commonly, but seriously you can't spell 'you' ? |
| 00:05.29 | Wraithan | er, nevermind you used the full version in one line |
| 00:05.51 | kenlyric | there are new wotlk talents? well, i'm glad someone came to tell us about them. |
| 00:06.00 | JoeOk | im here to help |
| 00:06.01 | Wraithan | So one of them you were purposely acting smarter, or the rest you were purposely acting dumber. |
| 00:06.15 | JoeOk | sorry 4 not usin correct grammer n spellin stuffs wraith |
| 00:06.35 | Wraithan | Then go to sleep? |
| 00:06.58 | JoeOk | no thx wraithan |
| 00:07.25 | Wraithan | You obviously need some sleep because it is too hard for you to type out full words. |
| 00:07.52 | JoeOk | Ok, fine; I'll use correct spelling and grammar. |
| 00:07.55 | Wraithan | Blech, nevermind I will stop feeding the troll... my bad |
| 00:08.29 | JoeOk | You forgot to add a period to the end of that sentance, Wraithan. |
| 00:08.32 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=josh@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) |
| 00:09.00 | Gnarfoz | whatever a sentance is. ;p |
| 00:09.07 | JoeOk | shit |
| 00:09.09 | JoeOk | i give up |
| 00:09.16 | Wraithan | haha |
| 00:09.16 | JoshBorke | [Ammo]: yo |
| 00:09.19 | Gnarfoz | grammar nazis ahoy ~:> |
| 00:09.28 | Wraithan | gnorlish: you bet me to it... damn work. |
| 00:09.46 | Wraithan | er, Gnarfoz... I swear I can tab complete. |
| 00:09.56 | Ellipsis | lies |
| 00:10.01 | Gnarfoz | utter lies. |
| 00:10.10 | SunTsu | Prove it - screen or it didn't happen ;) |
| 00:10.18 | Wraithan | I play a male Tauren... no udder. |
| 00:10.20 | JoeOk | my wand does more damage than mind flay at lvl 40 is that bad |
| 00:10.27 | JoeOk | no wait it doesn't |
| 00:10.31 | JoeOk | i just realized |
| 00:10.36 | Ellipsis | sighs |
| 00:10.40 | JoeOk | but if i get hit while mind flaying it does |
| 00:10.42 | JoeOk | since i lose a mind flay |
| 00:11.47 | NivFreak | hrmm, did TBC really only beta for 3 months? I could have sworn it was WAY longer |
| 00:11.49 | aedaemoen | hey guys, since you guys are the guruz, figured id see if any of you guys can answer the questions i have in my ui posting on lm.net.... be warned, the first screenshot is in png format so size is huge :-D http://ledmirage.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4056 dunno if anyone is familiar enough with lmui :\ |
| 00:11.53 | Ellipsis | JoeOk: you might want to be careful there...stupidity may not be a bannable offense in this channel, but annoyingness seems to be |
| 00:13.25 | JoeOk | thats a cool quest helper addon |
| 00:13.43 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: we haven't banned you yet ;-) |
| 00:13.50 | *** join/#wowace dread (n=dread@c-71-238-222-7.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 00:13.55 | JoeOk | and healers targetting u thats kick ass |
| 00:14.06 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: that's only because I'm so good in bed |
| 00:14.17 | JoshBorke | oh, ok |
| 00:14.27 | Dashkal | Video proof required? |
| 00:14.35 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Good in bed? That means you have warm feet and don't steal the blanket? |
| 00:14.54 | Ellipsis | SunTsu: absolutely, also back rubs |
| 00:15.04 | SunTsu | Nah, that spoils it |
| 00:15.18 | Ellipsis | fine, see if I ever give you one! |
| 00:15.31 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r78433 10Decursive/Dcr_Events.lua: |
| 00:15.31 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 00:15.31 | CIA-45 | - (inactive code) fix Boolean mask logic in WIP combat log buff/debuff detection code |
| 00:17.35 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: I hope not ;) |
| 00:18.29 | JoeOk | how do u make addons |
| 00:18.33 | Ellipsis | you certainly are an odd one, SunTsu |
| 00:18.42 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: And proud of it |
| 00:18.57 | JoshBorke | JoeOk: you write them in your favorite editor following many easy to read guides online |
| 00:19.00 | SunTsu | JoeOk: It's all magic, you know how to or you don't |
| 00:19.13 | JoshBorke | JoeOk: you might also be interested in Hacking World of Warcraft |
| 00:19.22 | Diao | ugh |
| 00:19.24 | Diao | my APM is too high |
| 00:19.26 | SunTsu | JoshBorke: Or in trolling for dummies ;) |
| 00:19.28 | JoeOk | whats apm |
| 00:19.31 | Diao | actions per minuet |
| 00:19.33 | Diao | minute* |
| 00:19.42 | JoeOk | actions of what |
| 00:19.46 | Diao | my cheapshot/sinister strike keys are on the same hotkey |
| 00:19.49 | JoshBorke | SunTsu: meh, i'm bored |
| 00:19.50 | Diao | except one is on my stealth bar |
| 00:19.55 | Diao | and i hit stealth and my cheapshot hotkey |
| 00:20.01 | Diao | but i hit it so quickly that the bar hasn't switched yet |
| 00:20.04 | Diao | so i sinister strike myself out of stealth |
| 00:20.10 | Diao | and waste the stealth cd :( |
| 00:20.15 | JoeOk | one time in a group |
| 00:20.25 | Arrowmaster | Diao: what barmod? |
| 00:20.29 | Diao | bt4 |
| 00:20.29 | JoeOk | this 1 guy got at least 90% of the green/blue drops |
| 00:20.32 | JoeOk | out of 5 people |
| 00:20.33 | Diao | it happens even with default UI |
| 00:20.33 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78434 10Heatsink/ (. Heatsink.lua Heatsink.toc TinyGratuity.lua embeds.xml): Heatsink: fuck it, just use LibGratuity for the time being. Also, move P_E_W handlers to OnEnable |
| 00:20.40 | Diao | i'm too fast for the game :( |
| 00:21.06 | JoeOk | i would say any dummy could press 2 buttons a little bit slower but then somone would insult me |
| 00:21.18 | JoeOk | i can feel it |
| 00:21.25 | Diao | i'm not used to pressing buttons with a delay :p |
| 00:21.37 | Diao | played too many strategy games |
| 00:21.39 | Ellipsis | sometimes you just have to learn to compensate :P |
| 00:21.41 | SunTsu | Diao: That's no art. I usually get "This item is in use" a second after i looted a mine and mine again |
| 00:22.01 | Arrowmaster | now when the hell is this going to get fixed... |
| 00:22.03 | Arrowmaster | Welcome to The Battle for Mount Hyjal. This raid instance is scheduled to reset in 11 Days 8 Hours. |
| 00:22.29 | Ellipsis | I tend to do the whole loot and run...and then run back because the sparklies are still there |
| 00:22.37 | CIA-45 | 03grayhoof * r78435 10Proximo/Proximo.lua: Proximo: Use call backs for talent guess changes |
| 00:22.44 | Ellipsis | is OCD about sparklies |
| 00:22.49 | Diao | same |
| 00:22.59 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: You obviously are a girl ;) |
| 00:23.00 | Diao | but yeah, i guess i have to learn to slow down |
| 00:23.01 | aedaemoen | !rating 1460 |
| 00:23.01 | Xinhuan | 1460 rating gives 335(5s), 294(3s) and 254(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 00:23.12 | Diao | and wait a bit longer before hitting my key |
| 00:23.21 | Ellipsis | SunTsu: aha, finally the proof I needed! |
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| 00:24.30 | *** join/#wowace ccKep (n=Kep@p54853BF3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:24.32 | ccKep | wosh |
| 00:24.49 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: I really don't want to know what you tried up to this point to prove it to you - and why ;) |
| 00:25.07 | JoeOk | im trying to think of a good joke involving sexual abuse of little boys since my char. in the game is a priest |
| 00:25.10 | JoeOk | i just can't think of one |
| 00:25.20 | JoeOk | =( |
| 00:25.32 | Gnarfoz | should have thought about that when chosing the name, imho |
| 00:25.32 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 00:25.39 | SunTsu | JoeOk: And you better can't, because it could get you a ban for some days |
| 00:25.52 | JoeOk | wouldn't want that |
| 00:25.54 | SunTsu | Hm, maybe you better can |
| 00:26.13 | ccKep | is there any recommended addon that stores action bars? (using BT4 if that matters) |
| 00:26.27 | SunTsu | ccKep: ActionBarSaver does for me |
| 00:26.35 | ccKep | so I can make a profile for enhancement and one for resto for example |
| 00:26.39 | JoeOk | i have no use for action bars |
| 00:26.43 | JoeOk | those r 4 nubs |
| 00:27.02 | JoeOk | im thinking of somthing ridiculous that i use |
| 00:27.06 | JoeOk | instead of action bars |
| 00:27.15 | JoeOk | any help |
| 00:27.17 | SunTsu | That was too much for ckk ;) |
| 00:27.19 | Gnarfoz | ccKep: SunTsu's reccommendation does exactly what you need |
| 00:27.25 | ccKep | cheers |
| 00:27.35 | JoeOk | well i recommend ActionBarSaver does for me |
| 00:27.46 | SunTsu | ccKep: Yeah, it has profile support |
| 00:27.48 | JoshBorke | JoeOk: what do you use instead of Action bars? |
| 00:27.53 | ccKep | is it in the ace repo? |
| 00:27.56 | ccKep | or wowi? |
| 00:27.59 | Gnarfoz | wowi |
| 00:28.01 | JoeOk | what is ace |
| 00:28.02 | JoshBorke | stabs ccKep |
| 00:28.05 | Wraithan | wowie! |
| 00:28.13 | ccKep | dodges. |
| 00:28.23 | SunTsu | plonks |
| 00:28.37 | ccKep | anyway, earth shield > backstab |
| 00:28.54 | Gnarfoz | I've got affliction, demo, destro; holy, 2x prot, ret; combat, 2x shadowstep all saved ;D combine that with Talented and as long as you're not running out of gold, changing talent specs really isn't any bother anymore |
| 00:29.19 | JoeOk | i only have 40 gold |
| 00:29.22 | JoeOk | since i do enchanting i am poor |
| 00:29.25 | JoeOk | as |
| 00:30.12 | Gnarfoz | dude, you're not even good at trolling, you're way too slow. quit now and your dignity might be spared. ;p |
| 00:30.17 | SunTsu | And running out of gold is nearly impossible now |
| 00:30.30 | Ellipsis | I actually don't use action bars x.x |
| 00:30.32 | JoeOk | i am running out of gold |
| 00:30.38 | JoeOk | see ellipsis is smart |
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| 00:31.15 | Ellipsis | well, I have one for my pet, but that's only for when I enslave things or for quest/event type stuff |
| 00:31.22 | Gnarfoz | ellipsis either doesn't care about cooldowns or wastes screen estate elswhere to know when stuff that isn't up each GCD is up ;) |
| 00:31.39 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: I has a brain for that |
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| 00:31.52 | Gnarfoz | I forget, women are supposedly able to multi-task. |
| 00:31.55 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 00:32.13 | Ellipsis | I actually do need (well, want) a cooldown mod, but the design in my head hasn't been implemented anywhere and I'm too lazy to write it |
| 00:32.22 | Ellipsis | so I do without for the time being |
| 00:32.24 | JoshBorke | what is the design in your head? |
| 00:32.34 | Gnarfoz | also, I highly doubt you'd perfectly time each CoD in a raid scenario, but as you don't raid, ... well ;) |
| 00:32.48 | Gnarfoz | I suggest lots of sparklies be used. |
| 00:32.56 | JoeOk | whats cod |
| 00:32.58 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: CoD's duration = CD...not hard to see when it goes off and/or just spam the button :P |
| 00:33.07 | Gnarfoz | not hard to see? lol :) |
| 00:33.15 | JoeOk | whats cod |
| 00:33.20 | JoeOk | i asked 2 secs ago but i did again |
| 00:33.21 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: I generally notice giant numbers on my screen :P |
| 00:33.23 | Gnarfoz | every 2.5 seconds there'll be numbers popping up in similar dmg regions ;) |
| 00:33.37 | JoshBorke | JoeOk: Curse of Doom, a warlock spell |
| 00:33.44 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: I want something very small and minimal, a text only display |
| 00:33.44 | Gnarfoz | Cash on Delivery, actually |
| 00:33.53 | Ellipsis | in my head it kinda looks like a fubar |
| 00:33.57 | JoshBorke | JoeOk: and technically, you asked 19 seconds prior |
| 00:34.02 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: have you seen coolDown? |
| 00:34.05 | NivFreak | SunTsu: that's awesome, I've wanted something like this forever |
| 00:34.09 | Ellipsis | you add individual spells you're interested in, with configurable abbreviations for each |
| 00:34.13 | ag`_ | Gnarfoz, teksloot are roll frames:) |
| 00:34.18 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: ah, that's taking it farther |
| 00:34.19 | Ellipsis | so it's not trying to scan every cooldown you could possibly have, just the ones you care about |
| 00:34.29 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: i started working on that, but couldn't be bothered to finish it |
| 00:34.34 | Gnarfoz | ag`: I know, I included that tidbit of info when I first mentioned it ;) |
| 00:34.37 | NivFreak | ag`_: are you doing anything fun with your xloot fork? |
| 00:34.45 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: specifically i started on a backend to store the cooldowns |
| 00:34.46 | JoeOk | i use psysic scream |
| 00:34.48 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-215-163.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 00:34.51 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: sounds sexy |
| 00:34.51 | JoeOk | i use phsyic scream |
| 00:34.53 | ag`_ | NivFreak, just stripping the crap out |
| 00:34.56 | JoeOk | i use pshycic scream |
| 00:35.09 | Gnarfoz | back to writing Illidan killshot text ;> |
| 00:35.16 | ag`_ | NivFreak, it won't do loot monitor or roll or all that stuff... I don't use it |
| 00:35.19 | JoshBorke | damn, pidgin doesn't have an ignore function |
| 00:35.27 | Ellipsis | yeah it does, /ignore works |
| 00:35.28 | NivFreak | ag`_: just the window/announcements? |
| 00:35.39 | *** part/#wowace Dark_Elf (n=Dark_Elf@ip219.net253.mw.net) |
| 00:35.41 | ag`_ | yeah the loot window |
| 00:35.42 | JoshBorke | i get unknown command |
| 00:35.48 | NivFreak | I like the loot announcements |
| 00:35.52 | NivFreak | it's the only other feature I use |
| 00:35.58 | Ellipsis | huh. well I thought it worked, anyway... |
| 00:36.05 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: could you paste that stuff about bloat again? ;D |
| 00:36.09 | JoeOk | i use the spork addon whenever i click it says SPORK |
| 00:36.15 | *** join/#wowace Dark_Elf (n=Dark_Elf@ip219.net253.mw.net) |
| 00:36.16 | ag`_ | you mean where you click and then it pastes the loot NivFreak? |
| 00:36.25 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: it has the functionality, just not /ignore :-D |
| 00:36.35 | Ellipsis | yeah, I know |
| 00:36.48 | JoshBorke | right-click ftw |
| 00:36.49 | NivFreak | ag`_: no, when I master loot something it says "X was awarded to Y" in gchat/raid or wherever I configure |
| 00:36.51 | Gnarfoz | using multi-protocol IM clients for irc is srs bzns |
| 00:36.59 | Ellipsis | I don't use pidgin for IRC though, so I'm not familiar with the interface |
| 00:37.00 | JoshBorke | Gnarfoz: indeed |
| 00:37.12 | JoshBorke | i tried using xchat and irssi |
| 00:37.17 | ag`_ | NivFreak, that is probably part of the master loot module of xloot. |
| 00:37.22 | JoshBorke | but there's something nice about everything being in one screen |
| 00:37.22 | Ellipsis | IRC != IM, thus IM clients have no business trying to implement it! |
| 00:37.22 | NivFreak | likely |
| 00:37.33 | NivFreak | I haven't looked into how things are structured |
| 00:37.39 | Gnarfoz | ag`: it's part of... well, you're probably also doing a fork because the stuff is *all over the place* :> |
| 00:37.41 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: agreed |
| 00:37.49 | Wraithan | Ellipsis: what about the reverse, IM over IRC, BitlBee |
| 00:37.50 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: meh, how's it that different? different protocol, sure, but it's still just a communication between multiple people |
| 00:37.52 | ag`_ | Gnarfoz, I removed all the crap |
| 00:37.56 | Ellipsis | and I say trying, because they always fail |
| 00:38.01 | JoshBorke | Wraithan: now that just seems like a terrible idea |
| 00:38.06 | Gnarfoz | ag`: read: useful stuff you don't use yourself ;) |
| 00:38.16 | ag`_ | I guess |
| 00:38.17 | Wraithan | JoshBorke: it is the best solution for CLI IM |
| 00:38.17 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: it's a different medium entirely, structured quite differently |
| 00:38.27 | Gnarfoz | it's fine, obviously ^^ |
| 00:38.39 | ag`_ | but I mean, all that stuff in the core, why isn't it in the modules that uses it |
| 00:38.45 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: sure, irc servers have rooms and services, but once you are in a room, you are communicating with multiple people |
| 00:38.45 | Gnarfoz | seriously, I want that paste from yesterday :D |
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| 00:39.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:39.15 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke: sure, but the "buddy list" type stuff you see in IM clients (state change notification and such) is quite lacking |
| 00:39.36 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: ah, the 'frills' as i like to think of them |
| 00:39.47 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: i think for just chatting in rooms, IM clients can function just as well |
| 00:40.17 | Ellipsis | indeed, but a client designed to work around a buddy list concept doesn't work well for IRC because it has to do all sorts of silly things to try and populate it with the wrong kind of data |
| 00:40.21 | JoeOk | INDEED |
| 00:40.49 | CIA-45 | 03grayhoof * r78436 10sct/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:40.50 | CIA-45 | sct: |
| 00:40.50 | CIA-45 | - Added Dispel as a default event |
| 00:40.50 | CIA-45 | - Added Dispel and Cast events as custom event |
| 00:40.50 | CIA-45 | - Cleaned up string and cache code |
| 00:40.50 | JoeOk | i need a lvl 80 to run me through dm i always die |
| 00:40.50 | JoshBorke | true, implementation of a buddy list for IRC is doomed to failure |
| 00:40.53 | JoeOk | DOOMED |
| 00:41.04 | JoeOk | lvl 90 preferably |
| 00:41.09 | JoeOk | for 20g |
| 00:41.32 | Ellipsis | I'm still trying to wrap my brain around fitting WoW chat into an IRC-style window |
| 00:41.41 | JoeOk | it won't work |
| 00:41.43 | CIA-45 | 03grayhoof * r78437 10sct_options/ (locals/localization.lua options.xml options_setup.lua): |
| 00:41.43 | CIA-45 | sct_options: |
| 00:41.43 | CIA-45 | - Added Dispel events as a default event |
| 00:41.43 | CIA-45 | - Added Dispel and Cast events as custom event |
| 00:41.43 | CIA-45 | - Cleaned up string and cache code |
| 00:41.47 | JoeOk | it'l breacn the TOS |
| 00:41.50 | JoeOk | breach* |
| 00:42.16 | Ellipsis | um, no, you have no idea what you're talking about |
| 00:42.27 | NivFreak | god I would kill for a chat client for wow |
| 00:42.28 | Gnarfoz | ~x de en beizen |
| 00:42.42 | Gnarfoz | oh, purl finally unghosted |
| 00:42.51 | Ellipsis | mmm, pickles |
| 00:43.00 | Wraithan | Ah much better, right click JoeOk, ignore |
| 00:43.10 | JoeOk | ellipsis i know more than you could ever know divided by infinity * 0 +maybe 10% |
| 00:43.11 | Gnarfoz | no, pickling something, not pickles |
| 00:43.27 | Ellipsis | JoeOk: I rather doubt that |
| 00:43.40 | Ellipsis | maybe without the extra 10% |
| 00:43.42 | Gnarfoz | that'd be 'etching' for you, btw, I guess |
| 00:44.01 | Ellipsis | pickling and etching? lolwut? |
| 00:44.04 | NivFreak | where are the ops when you need them? |
| 00:44.11 | JoeOk | pickling is an advanced term |
| 00:44.21 | JoeOk | for when you put a banana in a bowl of water it turns into a picle |
| 00:44.24 | JoeOk | pickle |
| 00:44.35 | Gnarfoz | not really, this is about animals. |
| 00:44.57 | JoeOk | i wana make an addon that will tell me how fast i am running at any given time |
| 00:45.04 | Gnarfoz | that's already been made. |
| 00:45.11 | JoeOk | whats it called |
| 00:45.26 | JoeOk | i want to download 20 addons that will all clutter the screen |
| 00:45.31 | Gnarfoz | MonkeySpeed does that, for example. |
| 00:45.44 | Gnarfoz | dunno if SpeedFu still works |
| 00:45.49 | JoeOk | god damn gnar u r good! |
| 00:45.52 | JoeOk | u know your shitz |
| 00:46.03 | Gnarfoz | I *see* shit, every line you write |
| 00:46.11 | JoeOk | it even Displays speed as a color |
| 00:46.41 | Arrowmaster | yes speedfu still works, im supprised if monkeyspeed does |
| 00:46.49 | Gnarfoz | why would you? |
| 00:46.51 | Gnarfoz | (it does) |
| 00:47.12 | Ellipsis | licks Gnarfoz |
| 00:47.22 | Gnarfoz | I am licked. |
| 00:47.26 | Arrowmaster | well the zone sizings have changed for some maps |
| 00:47.30 | Gnarfoz | stick me to a postcard, will you |
| 00:47.44 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: you calibrate it ingame, anyway |
| 00:47.45 | JoeOk | what does speed have to do with zone sizings |
| 00:47.46 | JoeOk | nothing |
| 00:47.51 | Gnarfoz | JoeOk: everything |
| 00:47.56 | JoeOk | nothing |
| 00:48.12 | JoeOk | i know this better than you do |
| 00:48.17 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 00:48.27 | Ellipsis | JoeOk: how do you measure speed other than a change in player coordinates? |
| 00:48.31 | Gnarfoz | actually, you don't :> |
| 00:48.36 | JoeOk | its actually pretty freaking easy |
| 00:48.45 | JoeOk | if its regular |
| 00:48.46 | JoeOk | its 100% |
| 00:48.50 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 00:48.52 | JoeOk | then you add in variables to check if mount, |
| 00:48.57 | JoeOk | carrot on stick, |
| 00:49.00 | JoeOk | or slow down effects |
| 00:49.04 | JoeOk | thats it |
| 00:49.08 | Ellipsis | that's an estimation |
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| 00:49.10 | Ellipsis | not a measurement |
| 00:49.21 | JoeOk | its always gona be the same thing |
| 00:49.22 | Gnarfoz | the entire point of measuring is to not need to know if you're mounted or whatever. |
| 00:49.41 | JoeOk | its always gona be 100% |
| 00:49.42 | Ellipsis | no, actually, it's not |
| 00:49.46 | JoeOk | if your running |
| 00:49.49 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:49.50 | Ellipsis | for example: how do you estimate taxi speed? |
| 00:49.52 | JoeOk | no matter what the map sizings are |
| 00:49.56 | Arrowmaster | or if your debuffed |
| 00:50.02 | Ellipsis | also, how do you have a database of every slowing effect in the game? |
| 00:50.06 | Gnarfoz | metagem, runspeed talent, runspeed enchant |
| 00:50.13 | JoeOk | yah i do infact |
| 00:50.33 | JoeOk | i copied it 5 times just in case |
| 00:50.36 | CIA-45 | 03nikkodemus * r78439 10BuffEnough/BuffEnough.lua: |
| 00:50.36 | CIA-45 | BuffEnough: |
| 00:50.36 | CIA-45 | -switch tooltip to using AddLine instead of SetText |
| 00:50.37 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78438 10StatBlock_Ammo/ (StatBlock_Ammo.lua StatBlock_Ammo.toc): StatBlock_Ammo: Fixes for ammo swapping and icon |
| 00:50.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah well i have a database of every zones size and its much easyer to maintain and copy the data into speedfu |
| 00:50.47 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78440 10StatBlock_Quests/ (6 files): StatBlock_Quests: Import |
| 00:51.11 | Ellipsis | you...wait, what? |
| 00:51.30 | CIA-45 | 03sayclub * r78441 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-koKR.lua: |
| 00:51.30 | CIA-45 | Click2Cast : |
| 00:51.30 | CIA-45 | - koKR Update |
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| 00:59.41 | aedaemoen | hey guys, anyone here use atlas? |
| 00:59.57 | Aiiane | i use him to hold up the world |
| 01:00.01 | Nechckn | to a point, yes |
| 01:00.02 | JoeOk | LOL |
| 01:00.05 | JoeOk | THAT WAS GREAT |
| 01:00.29 | aedaemoen | will it have issues if i dont use atlasquest :p |
| 01:00.46 | Gnarfoz | Atlas is Atlas |
| 01:01.12 | aedaemoen | Gnarfoz, according to the website its supposed to have atlasquest and atlasloot installed to work "properly" |
| 01:01.16 | Gnarfoz | it'll do what it does, regardless of which addon sharing the name you do or do not have |
| 01:01.37 | *** part/#wowace Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 01:01.58 | Gnarfoz | atlas is an addon showing pre-rendered maps of instances, first and foremost. all that other stuff is just there to compete with what is now InstanceLoot ^^ |
| 01:02.15 | Gnarfoz | (and a questing addon of your choice) |
| 01:02.20 | Arrowmaster | atlas is atlas, atlasloot and atlasquest are seperate addons from different developers |
| 01:02.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm kind of wondering how any such wording would have made it onto Atlas's homepage |
| 01:03.14 | Gnarfoz | (that being: http://www.atlasmod.com/ ) |
| 01:03.26 | JoeOk | what does atlas mod do |
| 01:03.38 | JoeOk | can you look up where everything is in the game? |
| 01:03.49 | Gnarfoz | no, you need eyes and a brain for that. |
| 01:03.55 | Nechckn | pretty much, JoeOk |
| 01:04.02 | aedaemoen | i missread on the download page, sorry :\ |
| 01:04.14 | Nechckn | it's very much like Cartographer |
| 01:04.25 | Gnarfoz | aedaemoen: which one? I don't even see AtlasLoot mentioned at all ^^ |
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| 01:05.09 | aedaemoen | Note: You must use AtlasLoot v4.04.00 or later with this version of Atlas! <--- on wowinterface |
| 01:05.36 | aedaemoen | so I had interpretted it not as an "if you use atlasloot it must be v4 or later" but instead as a requirement |
| 01:05.45 | JoeOk | guys stop talking im in another chat window and whenever u guys talk it turns red so i click it |
| 01:05.45 | Gnarfoz | yeah I see |
| 01:05.45 | JoeOk | plz stop |
| 01:05.57 | aedaemoen | JoeOk, umm, deal? |
| 01:06.10 | Gnarfoz | JoeOk: easy solution: enter /quit turning red |
| 01:06.16 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 01:06.19 | aedaemoen | :-D |
| 01:06.32 | JoeOk | guys i asked you to stop |
| 01:06.34 | Gnarfoz | or /leave me alone =p |
| 01:06.35 | JoeOk | final warning |
| 01:06.44 | aedaemoen | peers at JoeOk |
| 01:06.45 | aedaemoen | warning? |
| 01:06.46 | Gnarfoz | ... or else! |
| 01:06.53 | JoeOk | thats it |
| 01:07.00 | Gnarfoz | that's what? :> |
| 01:07.01 | *** part/#wowace JoeOk (i=asd@ip70-187-231-87.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 01:07.05 | aedaemoen | laughs |
| 01:07.06 | Gnarfoz | yay! |
| 01:07.09 | aedaemoen | or else hed leave |
| 01:07.31 | aedaemoen | ill never understand people that make those types of threats "you stop this or im throwing a tantrum" |
| 01:08.05 | Gnarfoz | (it's not like he wasn't trolling from start to end) |
| 01:08.08 | aedaemoen | Gnarfoz, you know your mods pretty well in general? |
| 01:08.27 | Gnarfoz | mine? D: |
| 01:08.36 | aedaemoen | lol |
| 01:08.47 | aedaemoen | thats not meant as a literal "you own/made them" |
| 01:08.57 | aedaemoen | was meant as a general knowledge of mods all around question :p |
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| 01:09.11 | aedaemoen | is determined to fix the final few objects of his ui... |
| 01:09.28 | Gnarfoz | I use about ~160 mods or so, so I know pretty much about them, and for some, their alternatives |
| 01:09.47 | Gnarfoz | +the stuff you pick about hanging around here and #wowuidev all day |
| 01:09.55 | Gnarfoz | s/pick/pick up/ |
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| 01:10.07 | Gnarfoz | arrgh wrong, again :D |
| 01:10.16 | Gnarfoz | -about :P |
| 01:10.34 | aedaemoen | i wonder if purl is perlbot |
| 01:10.35 | aedaemoen | lol |
| 01:10.42 | aedaemoen | used to have fun playing with perlbot |
| 01:11.04 | Arrowmaster | ~infobot |
| 01:11.05 | purl | arrowmaster, I love abuse, feed me!, or an interactive bot that can learn all sorts of information (http://www.infobot.org/) |
| 01:11.05 | Gnarfoz | purl is infobot, read all about it on her homepage, I guess |
| 01:11.36 | aedaemoen | anyways, mind if i take a couple questions to query, i dont want to annoy everyone here by asking questions not associated to Ace :-D |
| 01:11.54 | Gnarfoz | you'd probably get more out of it if you *do* ask them here |
| 01:12.15 | Arrowmaster | and most the conversations here dont generally involve Ace |
| 01:12.19 | aedaemoen | lol, i did ask, i posted a link to the question on ledmirages forums since its "his ui pack" |
| 01:12.23 | Gnarfoz | indeed :> |
| 01:12.37 | aedaemoen | but the forums arent as active as id like these days, especially since led himself seems to have stopped doing anything, lol |
| 01:12.50 | Gnarfoz | I don't know about, nor use any compilations, so anything I could offer would be about specific addons |
| 01:13.26 | aedaemoen | http://ct-unlimited.com/misc/wow_sshot2.jpg <--- trying to figure out which addon is making the red flashing during fights, as well as which one is providing the health bar in the center of my hud... |
| 01:13.42 | Gnarfoz | omen, aggrowarning, for the red flashing |
| 01:13.53 | aedaemoen | hmm, cool :-D |
| 01:13.59 | aedaemoen | now i can fix that when i get home |
| 01:14.01 | Arrowmaster | mostlikely |
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| 01:14.20 | Gnarfoz | could probably just turn omen off when soloing as a rogue |
| 01:14.25 | aedaemoen | ive just seen sooo many darned "flash" options in the different addons its been driving me nuts |
| 01:14.40 | aedaemoen | how do i set it up to turn on and off based on if im in a group, that possible with omen? |
| 01:14.43 | Gnarfoz | health bar doesn't look familiar |
| 01:14.52 | Gnarfoz | yes, it has options for that |
| 01:15.03 | aedaemoen | guess ill have to browse around for that option :-) |
| 01:15.07 | Gnarfoz | just open the options window, I guess |
| 01:15.26 | aedaemoen | yeah, thats not a big deal, im just now starting to spend time customizing my ui a bit more |
| 01:15.43 | aedaemoen | curiously, alot of people get their uis very very meticulously lined up.... im guessing you guys do too |
| 01:15.52 | aedaemoen | like with the xperl party raid windows.... |
| 01:16.12 | aedaemoen | how are people able to get these lined up so precisely, ive played around with the alignment options in the gui configurator and they suck |
| 01:16.46 | aedaemoen | ive been tempted to just start looking at the lua files to see if coordinates can be entered and size info and such so i can be much more precise with my ui look overll |
| 01:18.40 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78442 10PhatLoot/libs/: PhatLoot: Externals again |
| 01:19.36 | JoshBorke | Aehave you tried align? |
| 01:19.42 | JoshBorke | hrm |
| 01:19.46 | JoshBorke | aedaemoen: have you tried align? |
| 01:19.53 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78443 10PhatLoot/embeds.xml: PhatLoot: Add to embeds, too |
| 01:20.02 | JoshBorke | ag`_: you suck |
| 01:20.16 | ag`_ | JoshBorke, yes |
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| 01:20.41 | ag`_ | but in my defense it is getting late JoshBorke |
| 01:20.48 | ag`_ | at least where I live |
| 01:22.43 | aedaemoen | JoshBorke, align if memory serves just gave you a grid. Im one of those really fussy id like to take it down to pixel by pixel if i can get away with it types :-D |
| 01:23.26 | aedaemoen | unless i happened to have missed something better, the grid was actually pretty spaced out too |
| 01:24.00 | Arrowmaster | layout-cache.txt in your WTF folder |
| 01:24.11 | Arrowmaster | and the individual saved var files for each addon |
| 01:25.53 | aedaemoen | guess ill have to look at that file and see how the alignment stuff works :-D |
| 01:26.05 | aedaemoen | probably the long way of doing it all, but oh well :) |
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| 01:28.05 | CIA-45 | 03nikkodemus * r78444 10BuffEnough/Frame.lua: |
| 01:28.06 | CIA-45 | BuffEnough: |
| 01:28.06 | CIA-45 | - and then fix the lines appropriately |
| 01:29.44 | CIA-45 | 03hshh * r78445 10ClassTimer/Locales/zhCN.lua: ClassTimer: update zhCN localization |
| 01:30.27 | CIA-45 | 03hshh * r78446 10CooldownCount/CooldownCount.lua: CooldownCount: force frame toplevel |
| 01:37.55 | CIA-45 | 03Jmbtsang * r78447 10Cryolysis2/core/ (events.lua options.lua privates.lua spellfunctions.lua): |
| 01:37.55 | CIA-45 | Cryolysis2: |
| 01:37.55 | CIA-45 | - Fixed issues opening the configuration menu for mages who don't carry at least one of each reagent around. |
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| 01:39.57 | elite3vil | Mages actually do that? |
| 01:40.18 | Ellipsis | what, open config menus? |
| 01:40.22 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 01:40.27 | elite3vil | That too. |
| 01:40.42 | elite3vil | No, don't carry around at least one of each reagent |
| 01:40.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 01:41.02 | elite3vil | I used to carry around 80 dust, and a stack of each stone |
| 01:43.06 | Gnarfoz | wth, I'm just noticing now |
| 01:43.29 | Gnarfoz | I forgot to bitch at the guys without flasks and food buffs because we actually killed Illidan |
| 01:44.38 | Dark_Elf | all realms offline tomorrow, could that mean resistance to patch is futile? |
| 01:44.56 | [dRaCo] | just dont give em dkp, gnarfoz |
| 01:45.18 | Gnarfoz | [dRaCo]: the guy doing the dkp would probably shoot me |
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| 01:51.34 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r78448 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 01:51.34 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:51.34 | CIA-45 | - Small table correction |
| 01:51.57 | Diao | hm cart3 doesn't have the death arrow anymore :( |
| 01:52.03 | Diao | i liked the arrow to your body |
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| 01:53.20 | CIA-45 | 03ellipsis * r78449 10PitBull/TotemTimers/TotemTimers.lua: PitBull_TotemTimers: that nil doesn't belong there. |
| 01:55.16 | Dark_Elf | use tomtom it will point ya to the body |
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| 01:55.42 | Diao | but then i'd have to install another addon! |
| 01:56.10 | Dark_Elf | its not to big |
| 01:56.14 | Gnarfoz | _Waypoints wasn't always a module that came with Cart2, either :p |
| 01:56.33 | Diao | yeah i already installed _routes :( |
| 01:56.41 | Diao | apparently i *can* set waypoints using cart3 |
| 01:56.49 | Gnarfoz | uninstall it and get Routes instead. |
| 01:56.51 | Diao | but i don't know how to remove them |
| 01:56.53 | Diao | er |
| 01:56.55 | Gnarfoz | _Routes is old :> |
| 01:56.56 | Diao | yeah routes |
| 01:56.58 | Diao | not _routes |
| 01:57.08 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 01:57.17 | Diao | cart3 /way x,y works |
| 01:57.20 | Diao | but i don't know how to remove it :( |
| 01:57.23 | Diao | used to use /noway to do it |
| 01:58.50 | Diao | but that's still not automated :O |
| 01:59.22 | Diao | oh |
| 01:59.23 | Diao | there we go |
| 01:59.24 | CIA-45 | 03yssaril * r78450 10AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:59.24 | CIA-45 | AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets: |
| 01:59.24 | CIA-45 | - added Lib: ... to the toc |
| 01:59.24 | CIA-45 | - register for the LSM callback before fetching the initial lists |
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| 02:01.56 | CIA-45 | 03sayclub * r78451 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-koKR.lua: |
| 02:01.56 | CIA-45 | Click2Cast : |
| 02:01.56 | CIA-45 | - koKR typo fix |
| 02:02.25 | Arrowmaster | haha we just got the first [Design: Hard Khorium Band] on the server and the guy that got it is already getting messages |
| 02:02.42 | Gnarfoz | tell me his name, will ya? :< |
| 02:03.13 | ccKep | got my ring of flowing live just yesterday after waiting days for the guy to craft it |
| 02:03.19 | Arrowmaster | the top guild is going to fucking get gouged |
| 02:03.21 | ccKep | crappy droprate on those |
| 02:03.44 | ccKep | *life |
| 02:03.50 | Arrowmaster | since their leadership told them that if anybody crafted SR gear for us when we were first starting BT they would get gkicked |
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| 02:07.09 | Aiiane | wow, Arrowmaster |
| 02:08.09 | Aiiane | that's like... incredibly dickish of them |
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| 02:10.26 | ccKep | currently thinking of dropping my 11heal/2mp5 gems for 22heal gems, but I'd actually have to use mana potions then -.- |
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| 02:16.25 | Arrowmaster | Aiiane: we also pushed super hard to kill kael the week before the 10% hp nerf because they said on the realm forums that we wouldnt be able to, and then when we did and somebody posted up a video of our flawless kill they made comments about how much it had already been nerfed at that point from when they learned it (which it wasnt) |
| 02:17.26 | ccKep | bet they didnt kill the unnerfed (or rather: untuned) version too ^.^ |
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| 02:19.26 | Arrowmaster | i think the only thing that had changed from when they killed him and we did was the trash was on a longer respawn time |
| 02:20.37 | ccKep | trash respawn on kael was a pita |
| 02:20.43 | ccKep | with p1 taking hours |
| 02:22.19 | ccKep | as for raiding... anyone here killed muru? guess my guild could use some advise, been running against a f*cking wall for quite some time now... -.- |
| 02:22.45 | Funkeh` | what torrent cliens do you guys use |
| 02:22.56 | Funkeh` | pref one with ebcryption |
| 02:22.58 | Corgan | uTorrent |
| 02:22.59 | ccKep | depends, w32 / *nix? |
| 02:23.21 | Funkeh` | w32, and I'm usin ut but want to try something else |
| 02:23.35 | ccKep | uTorrent here too, don't have any complaints |
| 02:24.15 | Zyndrome | 04:16.36 ( ccKep ) as for raiding... anyone here killed muru? |
| 02:24.19 | Zyndrome | and that's the joke! |
| 02:24.22 | Zyndrome | *ba-dom-tiss* |
| 02:24.36 | ccKep | hm? |
| 02:24.50 | Zyndrome | he devours guilds |
| 02:25.13 | ccKep | actually we've quite made a step the last two raiding days |
| 02:25.30 | ccKep | but I don't know where to improve DPS, stuff rarely dies fast enough |
| 02:25.56 | ccKep | hit p2 once, but it takes far too much time to get there |
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| 02:27.42 | Aeyan | Funkeh`: Deluge, maybe? |
| 02:28.59 | Funkeh` | think ill try abc |
| 02:29.05 | ccKep | Zyndrome: but my guild really likes the boss, even if we didnt down him yet |
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| 02:55.38 | smoke_ | anyone use proximo experience a problem where it shows a bunch of random people in the proximo window and it keeps flashing w/ different values? |
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| 03:02.25 | ulic | maybe you got in test mode. I haven't arena'd since the new season started. |
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| 03:13.04 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r78452 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:13.04 | CIA-45 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 03:13.05 | CIA-45 | - Added some more future pets and mounts |
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| 03:13.32 | CIA-45 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 03:13.32 | CIA-45 | - Amani Charms |
| 03:14.53 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r78454 10Stable/ (Stable.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
| 03:14.54 | CIA-45 | Stable: |
| 03:14.54 | CIA-45 | - Never swap items are now addable and listable from the chat command |
| 03:14.54 | CIA-45 | - Added profile changed and reset handlers |
| 03:14.54 | CIA-45 | - Added inventory item swapping (mainly for the new minipet hat) |
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| 04:26.06 | Groktar | omg mu'ru p2 |
| 04:26.15 | Groktar | we actually got to see entropius! |
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| 04:26.29 | ccKep | giev your dps ^.^ |
| 04:26.38 | ccKep | only saw him once so far |
| 04:26.49 | Groktar | hehe |
| 04:26.52 | Groktar | our dps is fine |
| 04:26.53 | ccKep | actually, just looked over our wws to improve our dps |
| 04:27.01 | ccKep | whats wiping you then? |
| 04:27.03 | Groktar | it's stupid stuff like pulling aggro on adds |
| 04:27.16 | ccKep | how fast are you finishing p1? |
| 04:27.25 | Groktar | mmm |
| 04:27.26 | ccKep | (wtb references, so I can iterate our wws ) |
| 04:27.35 | Groktar | we've only made it to p2 twice |
| 04:27.41 | ccKep | took us 7:30 the time we saw p2 |
| 04:27.50 | ccKep | thats way too long imho, I'm aiming at 6min |
| 04:27.54 | Groktar | mmm, i would say less than that |
| 04:27.56 | Groktar | ya, around 6 |
| 04:28.06 | Groktar | we're killing everything before the next wave spawns |
| 04:28.19 | Groktar | it's mostly tanks dying, loose sentinels, early aoe |
| 04:28.23 | ccKep | yeah, but only that isn't enough, atleast not for void sentinels I think |
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| 04:28.36 | ccKep | we kill everything before the next wave too |
| 04:28.42 | ccKep | but that leaves rarely time to dps muru |
| 04:28.48 | Groktar | oic |
| 04:28.52 | ccKep | hence 7m30s |
| 04:29.01 | Groktar | what % is he at by the time the first wave comes? |
| 04:29.06 | Groktar | er, not the first wave |
| 04:29.08 | Groktar | the first sentinel |
| 04:29.12 | Groktar | we try to get him to 70 |
| 04:29.14 | ccKep | dunno, I'm healer.. but I think 80% or so |
| 04:29.21 | ccKep | I _honestly_ dont know |
| 04:29.25 | Groktar | want some cheese? |
| 04:29.28 | ccKep | I get in position near the doorway and put down meh totems |
| 04:29.40 | Groktar | if you pull him with an eye of killrog with everyone outside the door |
| 04:29.43 | Groktar | he will just despawn |
| 04:30.14 | ccKep | calls SPLOITZ! |
| 04:30.21 | Groktar | and he won't respawn for 40 seconds |
| 04:30.25 | Groktar | so you can all run in |
| 04:30.31 | Groktar | and get an extra 10 seconds of dps at the beginning |
| 04:30.51 | Groktar | woot made it to p2 again |
| 04:31.03 | Groktar | i was healing a door tank before |
| 04:31.06 | ccKep | well, definately a good hint during the learning process |
| 04:31.13 | Groktar | but they decided they wanted a shaman |
| 04:31.23 | Groktar | since we have 4 resto shaman in guild now |
| 04:31.35 | ccKep | our healing seems quite fine, as noone is dying except something goes wrong |
| 04:31.42 | ccKep | but I'm leading the heal meters by quite a bit |
| 04:31.55 | ccKep | dunno if thats supposed to be so |
| 04:32.15 | Groktar | what class are you, and who are you healing? |
| 04:32.21 | ccKep | http://wowwebstats.com/6fw3ycsmvo1v3?s=239262-273490 |
| 04:33.12 | ccKep | assigned for helping the tank during spike damage, otherweise: heal where needed |
| 04:33.49 | ccKep | but 308k before #3, 170k before #2 just seems much ^.^ |
| 04:34.14 | Groktar | mm |
| 04:34.29 | Groktar | we're running with 3 tanks 6 healers |
| 04:34.34 | ccKep | but thats not the problem, people don't die unless something goes wrong |
| 04:34.37 | Groktar | we have 3 misdirects |
| 04:34.49 | Groktar | so the sentinel tank is also grabbing the aoe pack |
| 04:35.11 | ccKep | we could try that, but we were afraid the void blast / shadow bolt volley spike was too high |
| 04:35.19 | Groktar | we were getting some gibs for a while |
| 04:35.24 | Groktar | but they're waaaay down tonight |
| 04:35.31 | ccKep | is your paladin wearing any shadow resist? |
| 04:35.35 | Groktar | no |
| 04:35.38 | ccKep | woot |
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| 04:35.57 | ccKep | just healing through void blast + full volleys? |
| 04:35.57 | Groktar | he needs extra healing during waves 3 and 5 |
| 04:36.16 | Groktar | we may be aoeing every aoe pack |
| 04:36.19 | Groktar | on certain waves |
| 04:38.47 | ccKep | we only have 3 raiding hunters, one is on vacation right now.. so we couldn't even test a 6/3 setup even if we wanted |
| 04:38.52 | Groktar | o |
| 04:39.07 | Groktar | but it's going to be really nice when we're in p2 consistently |
| 04:39.15 | Groktar | we only have one useless person |
| 04:39.23 | ccKep | holy priest? ^.^ |
| 04:39.35 | Groktar | since we have feral druid/prot war and prot pally for tanks |
| 04:39.36 | Groktar | ? |
| 04:39.39 | ccKep | ah yeah |
| 04:39.48 | Groktar | holy priest will be fine for p2 |
| 04:39.58 | ccKep | yay, CoH and such |
| 04:39.59 | Groktar | not as good as stupid op shaman tho |
| 04:40.00 | Groktar | :( |
| 04:40.06 | ccKep | woot |
| 04:40.10 | ccKep | shutup, shaman ftw :D |
| 04:40.16 | Groktar | not arguing |
| 04:40.23 | Groktar | all you gotta do is mash chain heal and be #1 |
| 04:40.39 | ccKep | well, some classes really could use a buff.. holy paladin for example |
| 04:41.21 | ccKep | well, every class in the game only mashes some buttons |
| 04:41.21 | Groktar | they're the best as single target direct healing... |
| 04:41.21 | Groktar | i mash buttons on twins! |
| 04:41.21 | ccKep | holy paladin mashes holy light and dances |
| 04:41.21 | Groktar | they tell me to just mash coh for the entire six minutes |
| 04:41.22 | Groktar | :D |
| 04:41.45 | ccKep | we told our priest to renew flame sear people ^.^ |
| 04:41.49 | Groktar | o |
| 04:41.54 | Groktar | that's kinda useless, tbh |
| 04:42.01 | Groktar | it takes 3 seconds to tick |
| 04:42.01 | ccKep | just to counter flame touched after hat ;) |
| 04:42.14 | Groktar | we actually have our resto druid do that |
| 04:43.32 | ccKep | just made a 2 pages long post on our guild forums |
| 04:43.41 | ccKep | regarding muru sentinel/spawn dps |
| 04:43.52 | ccKep | hope it free's a bit time for our dpsers to dps muru |
| 04:43.56 | ccKep | and as a result shorten p1 |
| 04:45.07 | ccKep | dunno why it takes 4 warlocks, 1 mage and 2 shadowpriests 7mins to kill a fucking naaru |
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| 04:46.50 | ccKep | we'll have one less shaman today, wonder how that works out |
| 04:47.35 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r78455 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (. LibLordFarlander-2.0.toc embeds.xml): |
| 04:47.35 | CIA-45 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
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| 04:48.11 | CIA-45 | Baldrick: |
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| 04:48.22 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r78457 10Coconuts/ (Coconuts.lua embeds.xml): |
| 04:48.22 | CIA-45 | Coconuts: |
| 04:48.22 | CIA-45 | - Made sure all the paths and filenames are the correct case |
| 04:48.44 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r78458 10MiniPet/ (MiniPet.lua embeds.xml): |
| 04:48.44 | CIA-45 | MiniPet: |
| 04:48.44 | CIA-45 | - Made sure all the paths and filenames are the correct case |
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| 04:50.01 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78459 10Heatsink/Heatsink.lua: Heatsink: Stop erroring when there are no bars to clear on arena zone-change reset |
| 04:53.45 | Lukian | Coconuts? |
| 04:54.12 | ccKep | nomnomnom |
| 04:56.06 | Ellipsis | so um, what exactly does antagonist do? |
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| 04:57.53 | Fattymgee | Hey, anyone here that can help me out real quick? |
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| 04:59.22 | ccKep | http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/Meta_Question |
| 05:00.15 | ccKep | in short: ask, if someone can help - he'll do |
| 05:00.23 | ccKep | if not, well.. thats it |
| 05:00.39 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 05:00.39 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 05:00.57 | Fattymgee | Ok, thanks guys new here lol |
| 05:01.15 | Fattymgee | I just started using the updater called Netherpanel |
| 05:02.42 | Fattymgee | and when I update my addons, the Caith eepanels I resized get all messed up after updating, the 4th top panel turns black and looks way different, I tried not updating eepanels or any of its dependencies, but the panels still change, any ideas? |
| 05:03.25 | ccKep | actually, no idea |
| 05:03.30 | ccKep | my panels are fine |
| 05:03.36 | ccKep | but I dont use any fancy ones |
| 05:03.43 | Fattymgee | Caith panels look grey and blended to start and after updating, they turn black, I checked all settings in eepanels and nothing changes after updating |
| 05:03.52 | ccKep | maybe you panels have a texture that gets overwritten / deleted? |
| 05:04.46 | Fattymgee | yea i dunno, thought this might be a common problem, Im baffled lol |
| 05:04.49 | ccKep | never used caith ui or netherpanel, so I dunno |
| 05:05.16 | Fattymgee | ok well thx anyway, gonna have to keep messin with it i guess |
| 05:05.42 | ccKep | doesnt netherpanel give you a log on what it updated? |
| 05:06.59 | Fattymgee | yah, I never update eepanels or dependencies but netherpanel also updates alot of my libraries so I dont know exactly what changes this setting since eepanels and dep. are not updated |
| 05:07.25 | ccKep | http://ace.pastey.net - try linking the list of updated addons |
| 05:07.29 | ccKep | maybe it helps |
| 05:07.54 | Fattymgee | ok will do, thx alot |
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| 05:21.29 | Mytos | anyone here ever farm for an emerald whelp |
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| 05:27.33 | Nechckn | Best source of info on the whelp- http://thottbot.com/i8498 |
| 05:27.36 | Nechckn | =) |
| 05:27.53 | Nechckn | I've gone whelp hunting before.. no luck- yet =) |
| 05:31.46 | Zyndrome | hunt some more ;< |
| 05:33.17 | Nechckn | yeah.. I plan to, I've just not been blessed by the Blizz random number generator |
| 05:33.49 | ccKep | actually, noone is blessed by that stupid RNG |
| 05:35.47 | Zyndrome | SNG rather, Static Number Generator |
| 05:36.12 | Zyndrome | tosses another vanq-token onto the bonfire |
| 05:36.36 | ccKep | yeah, you roll a number between (and including) 1 and 2, it rolls a number between (and including) 2 and 100, if you both roll the same you'll get your drop |
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| 06:13.04 | breser_ | !points 216 |
| 06:13.04 | Xinhuan | 216 arena points require 919(5s), 1053(3s) and 1229(2s) team rating. |
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| 07:21.11 | ccKep | nevcairiel: ping |
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| 07:22.48 | nevcairiel | `? |
| 07:23.08 | ccKep | just a small suggestion for bt4, if I may ;) |
| 07:23.19 | ccKep | (just switched from bt3) |
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| 07:24.02 | ccKep | until now I used BT3 and macros for healing: /cast [target=target,help,nodead] [target=targettarget,help,nodead] [target=player] Healing Wave(Rank 12) |
| 07:24.14 | ccKep | the BT4 "Auto-Assist" feature pretty much makes that unneccessary now |
| 07:24.16 | ccKep | which I like |
| 07:24.31 | ccKep | except for the "if I have no target -> consider player as target" part of the macro |
| 07:24.40 | ccKep | wonder if it would be possible to make an option for that =) |
| 07:25.05 | nevcairiel | hm maybe |
| 07:26.23 | ccKep | would save me like 20 macro-slots :> |
| 07:26.30 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: how did u do that ? |
| 07:26.39 | cncfanatics | just set the target attribute to targattarget, help, nodead ? |
| 07:26.49 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 07:26.52 | nevcairiel | cheats! |
| 07:27.27 | cncfanatics | how ? |
| 07:27.28 | cncfanatics | tell meh |
| 07:27.30 | cncfanatics | sounds cool |
| 07:28.53 | ccKep | macro haxx I'd guess |
| 07:29.57 | cncfanatics | I doubt it |
| 07:30.04 | cncfanatics | BT uses actionid's, wld get messy |
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| 07:31.38 | nevcairiel | hmm that reminds me |
| 07:31.41 | nevcairiel | i had a bug in there |
| 07:31.53 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: how u do it ? macro text buttons ? |
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| 07:35.23 | Kalroth | poor nev |
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| 07:40.21 | cncfanatics | hmmm damn, can't do that with unit after all |
| 07:40.33 | cncfanatics | cld probably make it remap based on what ur targetting though, so ends up the same |
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| 07:46.24 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78460 10Bartender4/ (actionBar/States.lua buttonPrototypes/ActionButton.lua): Bartender4: fix a bug with action buttons not updating properly with AutoAssist active |
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| 07:50.17 | nevcairiel | wonder how i was that stupid before |
| 07:50.19 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 07:55.42 | Kalroth | No comment. |
| 07:55.43 | Kalroth | hides. |
| 08:00.45 | nevcairiel | feels a certain urge |
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| 08:07.23 | cncfanatics | loves druids that don't like shapeshifting |
| 08:07.33 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:07.45 | nevcairiel | morning ammo |
| 08:08.42 | cncfanatics | morning |
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| 08:13.57 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78461 10Heatsink/Heatsink.lua: Heatsink: keep a table of active cooldowns instead of spamming the hell out of NewTimerBar |
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| 08:41.24 | Zyndrome | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/tyraelminipet2.jpg |
| 08:41.25 | Zyndrome | ;o |
| 08:41.41 | cncfanatics | Zyndrome: thats not real is it ? |
| 08:41.53 | Zyndrome | it is |
| 08:42.20 | cncfanatics | lame |
| 08:42.20 | Zyndrome | you get it by using the pet-code one got from the 08 WWI Blizzard held |
| 08:42.20 | cncfanatics | ~lart blizzard |
| 08:42.20 | purl | whips out his power stapler and staples blizzard's foot to the floor |
| 08:42.22 | Zyndrome | (which was a failure imho) |
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| 09:08.59 | FinalX | wtf @ fail blizzard store |
| 09:09.28 | FinalX | ordered 5 of those tokens for my accounts, my wife's, my brother's and a friend's... they're 6 euro's a piece.. right? |
| 09:09.47 | FinalX | ...on the packagelist it now states as 20 euro per token being charged (excl vat) per token .. :| |
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| 09:15.39 | profalber1 | wtb alphabetically sorted plugins in the StatBlockCore-menu |
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| 09:44.02 | cncfanatics | hmmm, is it possible for a program to diferentiate an ssh tunnel from a regular ssl https connection ? |
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| 09:45.42 | Fisker- | why? |
| 09:47.17 | Fisker- | anyways yes |
| 09:47.58 | cncfanatics | felt like playing some game |
| 09:47.59 | cncfanatics | can't :t |
| 09:48.10 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: how exactly ? |
| 09:48.45 | Fisker- | you send a SSH welcome of sorts |
| 09:49.12 | Fisker- | which doesn't happen over HTTPS |
| 09:50.34 | cncfanatics | so, a proxy server could in theory block ssh without blocking https ? |
| 09:50.35 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin ladies |
| 09:50.42 | cncfanatics | intresting, wondering why they don't do that here |
| 09:51.14 | Fisker- | Because it's a bit more advanced |
| 09:51.35 | Fisker- | Your company probably just disallow SSL from any port than 443 (HTTPS) |
| 09:51.41 | cncfanatics | yep |
| 09:51.42 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcmNaXmjvs <- I'm never going to get over that |
| 09:51.43 | thul | _never_ |
| 09:51.45 | cncfanatics | and I just tunnel on port 443 -.- |
| 09:51.54 | cncfanatics | not a big deal rly, just open up a port |
| 09:52.20 | nevcairiel | thul: hah that was awesome |
| 09:52.32 | cncfanatics | god damnit |
| 09:52.34 | cncfanatics | even youtube is blocked |
| 09:52.48 | thul | hehe, yeah.. I laugh each time I see it :-P so bad |
| 09:53.07 | thul | I would love to se an uncensored version though :/ |
| 09:53.13 | cncfanatics | wonders why using a socks proxy ain't enough to get around this proxy blocking certain sites |
| 09:53.14 | nevcairiel | there is none |
| 09:53.39 | thul | I know, that is the sad part |
| 09:53.46 | Fisker- | i like how my administrator once came down to me and wanted me to show him the IP i was using to bypass his proxy |
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| 09:53.49 | thul | on that note, I hate iPartition and I have to buy a dvd-burner |
| 09:53.56 | Fisker- | Then he took me to his monitor and i lol'd |
| 09:54.02 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: how so ? |
| 09:54.09 | cncfanatics | he can just sniff out that IP easely anyway ? :p |
| 09:54.12 | Fisker- | The host that used the most traffic was mine (obviously) |
| 09:54.19 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 09:54.24 | Fisker- | It showed like 3 million HTTP requests |
| 09:54.28 | Fisker- | without actually downloading anything |
| 09:54.29 | cncfanatics | I just browse the web, not much |
| 09:54.39 | cncfanatics | how did u manage to do 3 mill http requests ? |
| 09:54.46 | Fisker- | Because that's how it tunnelled it |
| 09:54.58 | cncfanatics | ah, everything encapsuled in http ? |
| 09:55.02 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:55.12 | Fisker- | so while the others had stuff like "GET index.htm" etc. |
| 09:55.13 | Fisker- | i had nothing :D |
| 09:55.24 | cncfanatics | its not that hard to detect encapsuled protocols though ? |
| 09:55.35 | cncfanatics | if the sysadmin has a clue and some programming skills he cld prolly block it anyway |
| 09:55.39 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:55.43 | Fisker- | the clue part was missing |
| 09:55.43 | cncfanatics | same with ssh |
| 09:55.50 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 09:55.59 | cncfanatics | the skills part also prolly |
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| 09:57.29 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I wouldn't mind a job as sysadmin in some company :p |
| 09:57.34 | cncfanatics | wld be fun setting up all that kind of stuff |
| 09:58.06 | nevcairiel | sysadmin is the worst job you can have |
| 09:58.35 | cncfanatics | y ? |
| 09:59.19 | Fisker- | nevcairiel thinks he can stop me |
| 09:59.29 | nevcairiel | Oh i dont have to |
| 09:59.54 | cncfanatics | why is it a bad job ? it sounds like fine, even though I'm too young to do a permanent job yet |
| 10:00.17 | nevcairiel | you work the worst hours |
| 10:00.23 | nevcairiel | late nights, weekends |
| 10:00.33 | nevcairiel | whenever the real workers dont need their systems |
| 10:00.48 | cncfanatics | hmmm, true, didn't think about that |
| 10:00.49 | charon | you deal all day with people who either think they are more clever than you, or actually _are_ more clever than you. in both cases, you lose |
| 10:01.05 | cncfanatics | well, tbh, most sysadmins fail |
| 10:01.10 | cncfanatics | its easy to bypass most company firewalls :s |
| 10:01.28 | nevcairiel | not like thats their biggest concern |
| 10:01.42 | nevcairiel | so anyway this mysql DB fails |
| 10:01.59 | nevcairiel | i try to export a DB in .sql dump format from our production server |
| 10:02.07 | nevcairiel | and import said .sql file on our development server |
| 10:02.15 | nevcairiel | but it screws up encoding in the process |
| 10:02.19 | nevcairiel | wtf is up with this |
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| 10:02.42 | cncfanatics | well nevcairiel, they're suposed to have a pretty strict policy, but their proxy can just be ssh tunneled over |
| 10:03.08 | charon | invokes a certain gift analogy |
| 10:03.17 | nevcairiel | so they fire you if they catch you |
| 10:03.22 | cncfanatics | I work here only a month |
| 10:03.23 | cncfanatics | so /care :p |
| 10:03.25 | nevcairiel | a good proxy can show current connections |
| 10:03.48 | cncfanatics | a good proxy shld just tell the difference between ssh & ssl and block ssh imo :p |
| 10:04.08 | nevcairiel | you cant do that really |
| 10:04.47 | cncfanatics | ssh has some handshakes ? |
| 10:04.48 | charon | you can, during the handshake |
| 10:05.15 | charon | (after that, you've lost since it's obviously indistinguishable from garbage unless you're the NSA) |
| 10:06.05 | cncfanatics | well, https connections usualy don't last long ? |
| 10:06.07 | charon | or wait... seems TLS has a fixed packet encapsulation format |
| 10:06.21 | cncfanatics | you could also routinely kill any connection on port 443 that lasts longer then 30 seconds |
| 10:06.36 | nevcairiel | man this mysql thing is driving me crazy. Why does mysql insist on importing the data as UTF 8 even if the source file is encoded as plain ASCII? |
| 10:06.50 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: slow server and some download? bad |
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| 10:07.05 | Fisker- | zomg |
| 10:07.07 | Fisker- | authenticator :O |
| 10:07.15 | Fisker- | that was quick |
| 10:07.16 | charon | nevcairiel: ASCII to UTF recoding is a no-op |
| 10:07.21 | Fisker- | it's still being processed here :D |
| 10:07.34 | nevcairiel | charon: wah? |
| 10:07.37 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: download on https ? |
| 10:07.51 | cncfanatics | usualy on sftp in that case afaik |
| 10:07.51 | nevcairiel | charon: it does contain some latin1 chars |
| 10:07.51 | charon | UTF-8 is specifically designed so that all standard ASCII characters retain their code points |
| 10:07.58 | charon | then it's not ASCII dammit! :p |
| 10:08.03 | Fisker- | err |
| 10:08.04 | Fisker- | massive fail |
| 10:08.31 | charon | just use your favourite recoding tool |
| 10:08.37 | charon | anyway, lunch |
| 10:08.37 | nevcairiel | it doesnt work <.< |
| 10:08.49 | nevcairiel | i had the file as latin1, i had it as utf8, i had it as anything |
| 10:08.56 | Fisker- | http://i33.tinypic.com/21eam8n.jpg |
| 10:08.57 | cncfanatics | what error ? |
| 10:09.07 | nevcairiel | yet it _always_ imports it as utf8, but the php script using it expects it to stay latin1 |
| 10:09.10 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: owned |
| 10:09.18 | Fisker- | look at the url cncfanatics :D |
| 10:09.21 | cncfanatics | change the encoding of ur db ? |
| 10:09.35 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: whats wrong with it ? |
| 10:09.52 | Fisker- | "validate-token.html" |
| 10:10.01 | Fisker- | i just activated my token and it went to that page |
| 10:10.06 | cncfanatics | token ? |
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| 10:10.12 | Fisker- | you fail at life |
| 10:10.13 | cncfanatics | those encryptor thingies ? aren't those only avail to the US ? |
| 10:10.23 | Fisker- | no |
| 10:10.33 | Fisker- | http://eu.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=221003132 |
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| 10:10.53 | Fisker- | hax though |
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| 10:12.07 | Fisker- | GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_TOKEN result: LOGIN_OK |
| 10:12.08 | Fisker- | >:O |
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| 10:14.56 | Funkeh` | your mom |
| 10:15.26 | Funkeh` | should really look past the first word in the book of Fisker- |
| 10:15.30 | cncfanatics | Fisker- is getting owned |
| 10:15.34 | Funkeh` | oh that's right, there isn't one |
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| 10:16.50 | Fisker- | they should make right handed security tokens imo |
| 10:17.02 | cncfanatics | did you ever get hacked Fisker- ? |
| 10:17.12 | hipjipp^ | whats the difference fisker-? |
| 10:17.29 | Fisker- | nah cncfanatics |
| 10:17.34 | Fisker- | i don't need it either |
| 10:17.37 | Fisker- | but it's for the lulz |
| 10:17.53 | Fisker- | hipjipp^ the button is on the left side |
| 10:18.02 | Fisker- | so if i use my right thumb i'll cover the display |
| 10:18.02 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 10:21.15 | hipjipp^ | pats Fisker- |
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| 10:26.04 | Pkekyo| | why the flying fuck are people calling me at 7 am?! |
| 10:26.31 | hipjipp^ | lol? who wanted you something? <.< |
| 10:26.31 | hipjipp^ | :P |
| 10:29.02 | Fisker- | hey Pkekyo| |
| 10:31.07 | Fisker- | heh |
| 10:31.15 | Fisker- | just asked me for the token even when i used a wrong password |
| 10:31.21 | Fisker- | i was just about to think they might've failed |
| 10:31.54 | cnc|food | they say wrong pw after u inputted token ? :p |
| 10:32.26 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:32.39 | Fisker- | if you also login just after using the token the same code doesn't work :D |
| 10:32.52 | Fisker- | so you have to wait for the token to make a new one :( |
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| 10:40.44 | Pkekyo| | so basicly, if you DC in a raid you're fucked? :p |
| 10:41.12 | Pkekyo| | hipjipp^: dude I went to highschool with...no fucking idea what he wants though >.< and specially not at fucking 7am |
| 10:42.11 | Kalroth | Maybe he wanted to snuggle |
| 10:42.42 | Pkekyo| | well fuck him |
| 10:42.49 | Pkekyo| | why can't people ever call me during daytime? |
| 10:42.54 | Pkekyo| | it never_bloody_happens |
| 10:43.08 | Kalroth | lol |
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| 10:44.52 | Pkekyo| | but at 3am I'm the most fucking popular guy in town |
| 10:45.38 | nevcairiel | shift your sleepign cicle, imho |
| 10:46.14 | Pkekyo| | I try, but then my boss'll only call me at 8am 'cause I'm not at work |
| 10:46.31 | Kalroth | Don't fell bad, Pkekyo| - I'd call nev at 3am too, if I had his humber |
| 10:46.36 | Kalroth | Anyone got his number? |
| 10:46.49 | nevcairiel | noone in here i hope |
| 10:46.58 | Kalroth | Noone in here, eh? |
| 10:47.15 | Pkekyo| | try #lobby :P |
| 10:47.56 | Pkekyo| | someone there is bound to ha ve it with all the cybering nevcairiel's doing |
| 10:47.59 | nevcairiel | i give my number only to hawt girls |
| 10:48.29 | Kalroth | only one fat dude in #lobby and he didn't know nevcairiel's number |
| 10:48.32 | Pkekyo| | err...Ellipsis is supposedly female, give it a shot Kalman| |
| 10:48.42 | Kalroth | KALMAN, YOU AGAIN |
| 10:48.43 | Pkekyo| | Kalroth: ** |
| 10:48.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:48.49 | Kalman| | I STRIKE AGAIN |
| 10:48.52 | Pkekyo| | tab-completion ftw :p |
| 10:48.54 | Kalman| | FROM THE DEPTHS OF MY BED, I STRIKE |
| 10:48.58 | Kalroth | rawrs. |
| 10:49.00 | Kalman| | We're used to it. |
| 10:49.01 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78465 10StatBlock_DPS/ (StatBlock_DPS.lua StatBlock_DPS.toc): StatBlock_DPS: bugfix with pet damage not counted after death/resummon etc |
| 10:49.04 | Kalroth | you dirty shaman, you |
| 10:49.21 | Pkekyo| | why does british and american youth always suck horribly at english? >.< |
| 10:49.30 | Kalman| | Why *do*, you mean? |
| 10:49.34 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 10:49.50 | Kalroth | Don't go grammar on Kalman, he actually attends school |
| 10:49.59 | Pkekyo| | Kalman|: :) |
| 10:50.05 | Kalman| | No I don't. |
| 10:50.08 | Kalman| | Not for another 6 weeks or so. |
| 10:50.10 | Kalroth | You do too. |
| 10:50.14 | Kalroth | So slack |
| 10:50.14 | Kalman| | Nope. |
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| 10:50.39 | Pkekyo| | english is my third language, so I ought to be allowed to screw up on the grammar every now and then...brits in my guild though...they're at the level I was at the age of 12 |
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| 10:50.45 | Kalroth | I hate do/does and have/has though, I usually go by what sounds right to me and it usually isn't. |
| 10:50.53 | Pkekyo| | x) |
| 10:51.03 | Kalroth | Although various internet slang helps me |
| 10:51.09 | Kalroth | eg. "I has a shuvel" is wrong |
| 10:51.38 | Kalroth | Kalman, why is does wrong in Pkekyo's sentence? |
| 10:51.41 | Pkekyo| | haha...ever since lolcat/lolrus I haven't mistaken abouv have/has once :p |
| 10:51.51 | Pkekyo| | Kalroth: fancypants grammar shite |
| 10:52.03 | durcyn_ | plurality. grammar noobs. |
| 10:52.08 | Kalroth | Isn't "does" plural? |
| 10:52.22 | profalbert | does is 3rd person |
| 10:52.33 | Kalroth | And yes, I'm a grammar noob |
| 10:52.48 | Kalroth | so "he/she does", but "they do" |
| 10:53.04 | Pkekyo| | WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?! |
| 10:53.05 | Kalroth | Sounds right, so I guess it is! |
| 10:53.22 | Pkekyo| | oooh, Knight's Armament rifles are sexy :p |
| 10:53.36 | durcyn | Bibi: you're a right bastard, btw. |
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| 10:53.54 | Kalroth | I'd say he's a wrong bastard. |
| 10:53.55 | Pkekyo| | http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/LawVol/sr25-1.jpg dead sexy |
| 10:54.09 | Kalroth | Pkekyo|: Tiny little rifle! |
| 10:54.47 | durcyn | Kalroth: he's posting fake patch notes on mmo-champion on tuesday mornings, so you could be right =P |
| 10:56.50 | Pkekyo| | Kalroth: not tiny (observe scale compared to the 7.62x51 mag)...the dude is fucking huge :P also: completely collapsed buttstock |
| 10:59.45 | Pkekyo| | ascii genitalia when being asked to join <scrub group> for <random instance> is fun :p |
| 11:00.08 | Lukian | Pkekyo|, ooo, screenshot/log? :D |
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| 11:00.29 | Zariel | with callback handler im using it in a mod not a lib, but i cant register callbacks with the mod using its self table, is there a way to? |
| 11:01.14 | nevcairiel | Zariel: use a bogus string to register it |
| 11:01.27 | Zariel | yeah thats what ive been using |
| 11:01.32 | Pkekyo| | Lukian: wow died on me :< |
| 11:01.32 | Pkekyo| | will try to remember next time |
| 11:03.32 | Pkekyo| | hahah, just grouped with a tank named Goodwarrior... 50g says that name is an oxymoron :p |
| 11:04.56 | cnc|food | Pkekyo|: I grpd yesterday with a fury/arms "tank" that tanked with a 2hander |
| 11:04.58 | cnc|food | I was the healer :( |
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| 11:06.03 | Pkekyo| | is there a reagent vendor in shatt? |
| 11:06.13 | Pkekyo| | cnc|work: if you're geared for it, it really shouldn't be a problem |
| 11:06.25 | Pkekyo| | but only if gear level allows for it |
| 11:06.36 | cnc|work | it was normal mana tombs |
| 11:06.41 | cnc|work | I was feral spec, lvl 66 |
| 11:06.54 | cnc|work | so, not an issue rly, just slightly anoying |
| 11:07.05 | cnc|work | Pkekyo|: reagent vendor in lower city marketplace |
| 11:07.10 | cnc|work | (use track reagents vendor to find him |
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| 11:07.26 | Pkekyo| | it's actually very effective if you have the gear to support that gameplay-style |
| 11:08.05 | Pkekyo| | lmao, I've convinced this warrior that I'm shadow specced and the hunter's healing 'cause he trained 1st aid alot |
| 11:08.08 | Pkekyo| | <-- shammy |
| 11:08.50 | cnc|work | Pkekyo|: I'm lvl'ing |
| 11:09.01 | cnc|work | I got a healing kit from quests ofc, but that has like only 550ish +heal |
| 11:09.12 | cnc|work | specced tree yesterday as I'm prolly gonna finish lvl'ing in instancs |
| 11:09.28 | Pkekyo| | :) |
| 11:09.44 | cnc|work | its quite fun imho :) |
| 11:10.05 | Pkekyo| | this is gonna be quite an interesting instancerun with such an insightful tank |
| 11:10.17 | Pkekyo| | not to mention...I suck :p |
| 11:10.35 | Pkekyo| | first time in instance since lvl 15 |
| 11:10.47 | cnc|work | lvl ? |
| 11:11.32 | Pkekyo| | 37 |
| 11:11.49 | Pkekyo| | I stopped leveling this alt as 30 more than a year ago though |
| 11:11.55 | cnc|work | heh |
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| 11:12.09 | cnc|work | i rolled my druid the last tuesday of june, and he's lvl 67 now :D |
| 11:12.35 | cnc|work | been 3 weeks iirc |
| 11:12.39 | Pkekyo| | I don't have it in me to play for more than an hour at a time anymore |
| 11:13.30 | Pkekyo| | everyone in the group is l42+ and they decided to get a l37 healer |
| 11:13.34 | Pkekyo| | shrugs |
| 11:14.34 | cnc|work | healer lvl doesn't rly matter |
| 11:14.58 | Pkekyo| | well, it greatly affects gear |
| 11:15.08 | Pkekyo| | !c eu bloodfeather beefhoof |
| 11:15.14 | Pkekyo| | ah, the bot is dead |
| 11:15.19 | Pkekyo| | shame, really... |
| 11:15.34 | cnc|work | hmmm, who shot the bot ? |
| 11:15.47 | Pkekyo| | I don't know, but I didn't shoot the deputy |
| 11:16.07 | Pkekyo| | ...I'm too young to know that song damnit...no wonder I feel like an old fuck :p |
| 11:16.24 | cnc|work | how old are ya ? |
| 11:17.07 | Pkekyo| | 19 |
| 11:17.14 | cnc|work | old fuck |
| 11:17.19 | cnc|work | I'm 1 month younger then yoyu |
| 11:17.25 | cnc|work | s/yu/i/ |
| 11:17.34 | cnc|work | s/oi/ou/ |
| 11:18.03 | Pkekyo| | how'd you figure that one month? I didn't say it's my birthday today :p |
| 11:18.47 | cnc|work | my bday is in a month |
| 11:18.53 | cnc|work | I'll be 19 too then :p |
| 11:18.59 | Pkekyo| | you're alot more than a month younger than me then |
| 11:19.13 | cnc|work | how much , |
| 11:19.21 | Pkekyo| | hmm...half a year or so |
| 11:20.21 | Pkekyo| | "Hunter is not healer!" gee, clever chap this tank :p |
| 11:20.29 | cnc|work | omg |
| 11:20.32 | cnc|work | he figured it out ? |
| 11:20.44 | Pkekyo| | aye :p |
| 11:20.47 | cnc|work | what lvl is he ? 42 right ? |
| 11:20.57 | Pkekyo| | one of the two hunters leaving group sparked the discussion |
| 11:21.01 | Pkekyo| | 43 |
| 11:21.30 | cnc|work | how did he scrap enough brain cells together to get to lvl 43 ? |
| 11:21.31 | cnc|work | seriously |
| 11:21.44 | Pkekyo| | powerleveling |
| 11:21.58 | cnc|work | did he PAY someone to level him that high ? |
| 11:22.03 | cnc|work | or is it the person being paid being a tard ? |
| 11:22.08 | cladhaire | so Guillotine wrote that addon that basically did text-to-speech in-game. Does anyone know where I can find it, or more information about it? |
| 11:22.26 | Pkekyo| | he didn't figure I'm not shadowspecced and that I'm the healer though :p |
| 11:23.04 | cnc|work | Pkekyo|: tell him your an enchanter |
| 11:23.11 | cnc|work | and say you can enchant his head with brain cells |
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| 11:24.13 | Pkekyo| | "wee need healer!!!" |
| 11:24.22 | cnc|work | WTS brain cells :s |
| 11:24.30 | Elkano | I'll take 3 |
| 11:24.50 | cnc|work | ok Elkano, I'll sell the other 4841879874651 to that warrior, he's gonna need em badly |
| 11:25.16 | Elkano | btw, what song where you talking about before? |
| 11:25.49 | Pkekyo| | song? |
| 11:25.55 | Pkekyo| | oh, I Shot The Sherrif |
| 11:25.57 | Pkekyo| | f |
| 11:26.03 | Pkekyo| | fuck spelling |
| 11:26.30 | Pkekyo| | the warrior just invited a resto druid xD |
| 11:26.56 | *** part/#wowace hipjipp^ (n=hipjipp^@h29n4fls307o1049.telia.com) |
| 11:27.50 | cnc|work | Pkekyo|: you can go dps |
| 11:27.55 | cnc|work | and WHY oh WHY is he healer ? |
| 11:28.26 | *** part/#wowace Tinyboom|work (n=u@159.171.80.146) |
| 11:28.29 | Pkekyo| | :P |
| 11:28.48 | Pkekyo| | oh, now I see why...it's an undead warrior |
| 11:28.55 | Pkekyo| | why are undead warriors always retards?: P |
| 11:30.03 | Pkekyo| | seriously, all undead warriors I've ever grouped with have without fail been complete arsehats |
| 11:34.06 | cnc|work | who wld ever roll a nontauren warrior ? |
| 11:34.11 | cnc|work | or orc |
| 11:34.12 | cnc|work | orc is best for dps |
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| 11:34.16 | cnc|work | tauren is best for tanking |
| 11:34.27 | cnc|work | thus anyone rolling horde and not picking either of those is a tard |
| 11:34.37 | Pkekyo| | tauren > all |
| 11:34.56 | nevcairiel | tauren should be chopped up and put in freezers for the next bbq |
| 11:35.06 | erikh | you should be able to skin them |
| 11:36.28 | Zyndrome | http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA071508.METRO.poolflier.3e50740.html |
| 11:36.52 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: diaf |
| 11:37.17 | Pkekyo| | tauren > all |
| 11:38.35 | cnc|work | Zyndrome: some people are true tards aren't they ? |
| 11:38.57 | erikh | dunno, heh. gnome warriors are pretty effective in arena :P |
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| 11:42.29 | Pkekyo| | just because you can't fucking find them |
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| 11:46.41 | digmouse | 2.4.3 live in US tomorrow? |
| 11:47.16 | cnc|work | digmouse: maybe, maybe not |
| 11:48.36 | digmouse | I've seen patches on internode |
| 11:48.46 | nevcairiel | would be today anyway |
| 11:49.01 | digmouse | patches are out, so.. |
| 11:50.41 | m4rku5 | hmm have you guys ever thought about getting a ssl cert (best would be a free one from cacert.org) so that https can be used for svn ? |
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| 11:51.32 | cnc|work | m4rku5: it can on curseforge iirc |
| 11:51.34 | nevcairiel | afraid your password might be logged? :P |
| 11:51.42 | cnc|work | and tbh, curseforge svn > wowace svn anyway, and it has git too |
| 11:52.12 | nevcairiel | wowace svn will change anyway |
| 11:52.19 | m4rku5 | well my svn > all but i was talking about the wowace service |
| 11:52.27 | m4rku5 | nevcairiel, in what way ? |
| 11:52.35 | JoshBorke | tbf, curseforge svn ~= wowace svn |
| 11:53.27 | nevcairiel | there will be a announcement soon, which will answer all the questions what will happen |
| 11:53.38 | JoshBorke | who cares |
| 11:53.43 | Fisker- | http://tinyurl.com/6rnn3g |
| 11:54.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:54.11 | cnc|work | nevcairiel: I thought Kaelten gave up plans to redo wowace svn since he worked on cf ? |
| 11:54.24 | nevcairiel | so you thought wrong :) |
| 11:54.30 | JoshBorke | maybe he decided to scrap it all together! |
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| 11:54.38 | nevcairiel | sshh! |
| 11:54.46 | cnc|work | Fisker-: did you make that ? |
| 11:54.47 | JoshBorke | that would be the smart thing to do |
| 11:54.57 | JoshBorke | cnc|work: ha! fisker isn't that smart |
| 11:55.03 | Fisker- | nope cnc|work :o |
| 11:55.17 | nevcairiel | its another smart thing JoshBorke, just not that :p |
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| 11:55.23 | Fisker- | actually that isn't the hard part JoshBorke |
| 11:56.16 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: let's be real, the only smart thing to do is to unregister the wowace.com DNS entry :-D |
| 11:57.00 | m4rku5 | ;P |
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| 11:59.40 | m4rku5 | well i hope your announcement wont be that you unreg the wowace.com entry ;P |
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| 12:00.12 | cnc|work | I'd like an announcement that ace3 becomes opensource already |
| 12:00.43 | Zyndrome | 2.4.3 eh ... *starts pulling up passed out drunk guildmates* get up! get up! we got a dark naaru to kill! |
| 12:00.50 | m4rku5 | umm ace3 isnt open source ? (damn why do all those strange things always happen when im busy with university crap) |
| 12:01.12 | cnc|work | it has never been m4rku5 |
| 12:01.20 | m4rku5 | well want ace2 ? ;P |
| 12:01.26 | cnc|work | there's a clause in the license where you can't redistribute it without written permission iirc |
| 12:01.49 | m4rku5 | good that i used ace2 back then ;P |
| 12:01.49 | cnc|work | s/redistribute/redistribute standalone/ |
| 12:02.07 | JoshBorke | it was done only to prevent people from using Ace3 in the name |
| 12:02.25 | JoshBorke | or distributing it to websites without permission |
| 12:02.35 | cnc|work | yea, still means it ain't opensource though |
| 12:03.12 | JoshBorke | you're absolutely true |
| 12:03.40 | JoshBorke | s/true/right/ |
| 12:04.26 | evl | Anywhere I can read about changes in 2.4.3? |
| 12:04.33 | phyber | just wait until your evaluation period is over and you have to mail gold to the developers. |
| 12:04.54 | Lukian | evl, ui/lua changes or patchnotes? |
| 12:05.03 | evl | Lukian: former |
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| 12:05.21 | Lukian | should be in the ui forum on the wowwebsite, or perhaps on wowwiki |
| 12:05.58 | evl | can't find it on the forums, that's why I'm askin |
| 12:07.13 | cnc|work | it ain't up yet afaik |
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| 12:13.32 | evl | Any ideas/indications as to how much M'uru/Entrop/Adds health has been reduced? |
| 12:13.48 | cnc|work | they nerfed swp alreayd ? |
| 12:13.56 | Kalroth | yes |
| 12:14.00 | cnc|work | sigh |
| 12:14.01 | nevcairiel | only one boss |
| 12:14.04 | Kalroth | KJ too |
| 12:14.15 | cnc|work | sigh |
| 12:14.16 | Kalroth | hunter reflections doesn't use imp wing clip anymore |
| 12:14.28 | Kalroth | but a pretty big nerf to M'uru, I think |
| 12:14.36 | cnc|work | why ? :s |
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| 12:14.49 | Kalroth | No idea how much yet though, but I'm getting at least 5%, if not 10% |
| 12:14.49 | nevcairiel | nah its not that big |
| 12:14.54 | evl | Kalroth: and you can itrrupt reflections |
| 12:15.03 | Kalroth | evl: Ah, that too |
| 12:15.13 | evl | I presume Muru nerf is to stop people from quitting on him |
| 12:15.15 | nevcairiel | if its 5% HP of the adds, it will make it a bit smoother |
| 12:15.18 | nevcairiel | but its not really a bad nerf |
| 12:15.20 | evl | Probably more than 5% |
| 12:15.23 | evl | Think Kael |
| 12:15.30 | nevcairiel | dont think it'll be that bad |
| 12:15.31 | Kalroth | Yup, what I thought too, evl |
| 12:15.31 | cnc|work | sigh, god damnit |
| 12:15.34 | Kalroth | It'll be a Kael'thas nerf |
| 12:15.37 | evl | I would expect 20% on adds and maybe 10% on muru/entrop |
| 12:15.39 | cnc|work | and me that wanted to experience swp before they nerfed it |
| 12:15.43 | Kalroth | naw, no more than 10% |
| 12:15.48 | Kalroth | cnc|work: it's not THAT bad of a nerf |
| 12:15.59 | Kalroth | M'uru is currently insanly tightly tuned |
| 12:15.59 | evl | cnc|work: before or after 100 hours of wiping, consumables and RETARDED raid stacking required? :P |
| 12:16.01 | nevcairiel | muru was and probably still is the hardest boss in the game |
| 12:16.04 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 12:16.14 | cnc|work | harder then kj ? :o |
| 12:16.15 | Kalroth | M'uru is like Razorgor, Vashj and C'thun on drugs |
| 12:16.19 | Kalroth | yes cnc |
| 12:16.25 | cnc|work | cool, giev mu'ru |
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| 12:16.38 | Stanzilla | we had some first tries yesterday... |
| 12:16.40 | nevcairiel | you're not even 70 and already think about swp |
| 12:16.43 | Stanzilla | "fun" |
| 12:16.43 | nevcairiel | good luck with that :P |
| 12:16.47 | Kalroth | put it this way, 792 guilds with a Twin kill, vs 167 guilds with a M'uru kill |
| 12:16.48 | cnc|work | nevcairiel: I have 3 70s :p |
| 12:16.51 | cnc|work | this'll be my 4th |
| 12:17.01 | Kalroth | and 167 guilds with a M'uru kill vs 61 KJ kills |
| 12:17.27 | Kalroth | 167/792 = 0.21 while 61/167 = 0.36 |
| 12:17.33 | evl | you need a max geared raid |
| 12:17.34 | evl | for muru afaik |
| 12:17.37 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 12:17.37 | evl | and consumables out the ass |
| 12:17.40 | nevcairiel | cnc|work: i dont remember you raiding with any of those |
| 12:17.43 | evl | plus a lot of memebers for favorable stacking |
| 12:17.50 | cnc|work | nevcairiel: raided casualy on all of them |
| 12:17.54 | evl | and stuff like insanely good geared prot pala |
| 12:17.54 | cnc|work | and hardcore with my mage back in preTBC |
| 12:17.56 | evl | which is rare |
| 12:18.09 | Kalroth | M'uru is dumb because Twins requires ~10 healers, while M'uru is done with 5-6 healers |
| 12:18.10 | cnc|work | evl: is it really *that* bad ? stacking is anoying |
| 12:18.37 | evl | cnc|work: extreme stac |
| 12:18.40 | nevcairiel | the muru "nerf" will probably reduce the insane stacking factor |
| 12:18.44 | Kalroth | Sunwell bosses = ~8-10 healers, 7-8 healers, 8-9 healers, 10-12 healers, 5-6 healers, 7-8 healers |
| 12:18.45 | evl | Which is good |
| 12:18.45 | nevcairiel | but not more then that |
| 12:18.54 | evl | guilds are falling apart on him |
| 12:18.56 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78466 10SpellReminder/ (. SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc locale.lua options.lua): |
| 12:18.56 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 12:18.56 | CIA-45 | - NEW: Reverse Timer Sort |
| 12:18.56 | CIA-45 | - NEW: Localisation support added. |
| 12:18.56 | evl | mass recruit |
| 12:18.58 | evl | gear up |
| 12:19.01 | evl | oldies get bored |
| 12:19.02 | evl | quit |
| 12:19.08 | evl | very destructive cycle |
| 12:19.13 | cnc|work | heh, id |
| 12:19.15 | selckin | it killed ours for sure |
| 12:19.17 | Kalroth | like C'thun version 1.0 |
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| 12:19.25 | cnc|work | c'thun was actualy not killable |
| 12:19.34 | cnc|work | afaik |
| 12:19.35 | Kalroth | We're actually doing better than ever, but only because other guilds are falling apart :P |
| 12:19.55 | evl | After Twins tactic was pretty much done |
| 12:19.55 | Kalroth | cnc|work: it was, it was just insanely hard - everyone in the raid needed to be uberly geared |
| 12:19.59 | evl | It's a trivial boss |
| 12:20.06 | Kalroth | Twins is a super simple boss |
| 12:20.09 | evl | M'uru just doesn't feel like you are progressing |
| 12:20.11 | Kalroth | Just stack healers and loot |
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| 12:21.14 | Kalroth | M'uru wipes = fail at mass dispel, fail at picking sentinels up fast enough, fail at picking door adds up fast enough, fail at generating enough tps, fail at doing enough dps, fail at healing, fail at reflecting sentinel blast |
| 12:21.17 | Kalroth | etc. etc. etc. |
| 12:21.31 | cnc|work | every lil thingy wipes you ? :p |
| 12:21.33 | Kalroth | And it only takes 1 fuckup from 1 person for it to be over |
| 12:21.35 | Kalroth | yes |
| 12:21.56 | evl | cnc|work: yes |
| 12:22.03 | evl | like one dps getting lag spike and it's over |
| 12:22.04 | Kalroth | lose add = wipe, moving void spawns too close to the raid = wipe, overaggroing on sentinel = wipe |
| 12:22.10 | Kalroth | loose* |
| 12:22.14 | selckin | 5 dps sneeses and doesn't press button for 5 seconds = wipe |
| 12:22.16 | evl | unless you are some uber guild with unlimited members |
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| 12:22.31 | cnc|work | ah, remembers me twin emperors |
| 12:22.48 | selckin | fail at stunning = wipe |
| 12:22.51 | selckin | fail at sheeping = wipe |
| 12:22.52 | Kalroth | or to put it another way; a difference of ~100 dps on the doorway adds might be enough to wipe you |
| 12:23.06 | Kalroth | fail at purging or spellstealing mage = wupe |
| 12:23.07 | Kalroth | wipe* |
| 12:23.21 | evl | The fail is one thing |
| 12:23.36 | evl | having to cancel 75% of raids cause of EC/Summer/Vacations |
| 12:23.40 | evl | is worrse |
| 12:23.44 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 12:23.46 | cnc|work | hehe |
| 12:23.58 | cnc|work | my old pretbc guild had that |
| 12:24.00 | Kalroth | fail at getting 25 people with the proper raid layout is the worst |
| 12:24.14 | cnc|work | the GM went on holiday for a month without warning in advance, no more guild when he got back |
| 12:24.19 | selckin | anyone you recruit sets you back a few weeks |
| 12:24.20 | Kalroth | It totally sucks having 27-29 online and then missing 1-2 keyclasses |
| 12:24.28 | evl | I think this nerf is stricly a "Don't quit the game please" nerf :P |
| 12:24.31 | m4rku5 | yeah summer == suxx |
| 12:24.49 | cnc|work | I'm so glad I'm not raiding atm |
| 12:24.57 | cnc|work | lvl'ing & gearing up for raiding till sept, and only start to raid then |
| 12:25.00 | evl | only thing I enjoy |
| 12:25.02 | evl | 20k gold |
| 12:25.08 | evl | some alts I don't care shit about |
| 12:25.12 | evl | no other good games |
| 12:25.22 | cnc|work | well, I decided to reroll for the summer |
| 12:25.31 | cnc|work | as my old raiding guild stopped as well (on my rogue) |
| 12:25.38 | evl | Beats quitting :P |
| 12:25.49 | evl | I like leveling with TomTom + TourGuide + LightHeaded |
| 12:25.49 | cnc|work | wth wld I play if I quitted ? :( |
| 12:25.53 | cnc|work | ya, same here |
| 12:26.00 | cnc|work | did that weeks ago, now lvl 67 |
| 12:26.14 | cnc|work | just doing guild runs in instances now to get the last lvls |
| 12:27.31 | m4rku5 | have fun guys, cya later - gotta go to the maths course (maths at university suxx btw ;D) |
| 12:27.38 | cnc|work | heh, hf |
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| 12:30.24 | Zyndrome | http://tinyurl.com/6rnn3g , hax |
| 12:30.57 | cnc|work | Zyndrome: old |
| 12:31.06 | Zyndrome | yeah I am |
| 12:31.07 | CIA-45 | 03ennuilg * r78467 10/branches/scorchio_0.70_NOS/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:31.07 | CIA-45 | scorchio: |
| 12:31.08 | CIA-45 | - Merging recent HEAD changes into NOS branch in preparation for further development. |
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| 12:33.20 | steev | woo |
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| 12:33.53 | cnc|work | Zyndrome: not only you, your link too |
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| 12:36.26 | steev | oooh a new patch, yay |
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| 12:37.48 | digmouse | ok finished translating patch notes |
| 12:38.20 | CIA-45 | 03kunda * r78468 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: |
| 12:38.20 | CIA-45 | GloryLib: |
| 12:38.20 | CIA-45 | - use COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED for death count |
| 12:38.20 | CIA-45 | - deDE update |
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| 12:41.15 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r78469 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (4 files): |
| 12:41.15 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 12:41.16 | CIA-45 | - Bugfix |
| 12:44.06 | steev | ohshit they put in the cheat death "fix" |
| 12:45.22 | Funkeh` | fix? |
| 12:45.45 | cnc|work | anyone can link patch notes ? |
| 12:45.50 | Funkeh` | is it 2.4.3 today? |
| 12:46.32 | steev | 2.4.3.8606 |
| 12:47.16 | steev | hope the server comes up soon, i need to see how these cheat death changes are |
| 12:47.16 | nevcairiel | supposedly 2.4.3 will hit doay |
| 12:47.28 | nevcairiel | doay=today |
| 12:47.35 | steev | not supposedly - already downloaded and patched here |
| 12:47.55 | cnc|work | steev: giev notes ? |
| 12:48.03 | nevcairiel | mmo-champion has them |
| 12:48.56 | digmouse | Sinister Calling nerfed |
| 12:49.03 | digmouse | Sinister Calling now increases damage to Backstab and Hemorrhage by 1/2/3/4/5% (down from 2/4/6/8/10%.) |
| 12:49.18 | cnc|work | ouch |
| 12:49.22 | cnc|work | sub didn't suck enough yet ? |
| 12:49.23 | Gngsk | anyone have a screenshot of the new statblocks using the broker thing for fubar plugins? |
| 12:49.28 | steev | whatsadagger |
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| 12:49.49 | Stanzilla | Gngsk: http://staneck.de/upload/files/ac47a5-Top-part.jpg |
| 12:49.50 | steev | maybe in 5 patches or so they will buff daggers back up |
| 12:49.59 | Gngsk | Stanzilla, cheers |
| 12:50.34 | Fisker- | Stanzilla that is madness |
| 12:50.43 | Fisker- | is that statblocks? |
| 12:50.45 | steev | Stanzilla: nice ui |
| 12:50.45 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: that's what your mum told me |
| 12:50.46 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 12:50.47 | Stanzilla | :P |
| 12:50.49 | cnc|work | # # Zoning into an instance on a PvE realm will now drop your PvP flag. |
| 12:50.50 | Fisker- | >;O? |
| 12:50.52 | Fisker- | madness |
| 12:51.04 | steev | cnc|work: finally |
| 12:51.06 | Stanzilla | steev: thx |
| 12:51.14 | Funkeh` | I like how you cut out the top part |
| 12:51.19 | steev | was in a pug earlier with a rogue who refused to unflag |
| 12:51.19 | Funkeh` | to hide the "unfinished" rest |
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| 12:51.24 | nevcairiel | yeah no freaking buff issues in instances anymore |
| 12:51.32 | Fisker- | l2pvprealm |
| 12:51.47 | Funkeh` | omg |
| 12:51.48 | steev | Fisker-: i like my normal server :( |
| 12:51.50 | Funkeh` | at last |
| 12:51.59 | Funkeh` | no spending 6 silver on taking a bird |
| 12:52.00 | Gngsk | Stanzilla, is that all the statblocks thingamajig or is there some ee/kagaro panels voodoo in there too? |
| 12:52.01 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: yeah, the rest looks like crap :P |
| 12:52.01 | Funkeh` | just to drop pvp |
| 12:52.11 | nevcairiel | wonder if it'll disable a active pvp too |
| 12:52.13 | steev | i like to pvp when i want to pvp not when someone else feels like ganking me |
| 12:52.17 | nevcairiel | or just drop a flag thats already set to inactive |
| 12:52.20 | Stanzilla | Gngsk: it's a kgpanel in the background, yes |
| 12:52.22 | Funkeh` | it's StatBlockCore, statblocks is the old one :P |
| 12:52.39 | Gngsk | Stanzilla, aight thanks, and yah it's nice, get to work on the rest ! |
| 12:52.44 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 12:52.49 | steev | Stanzilla: what font/settins is that |
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| 12:52.52 | Stanzilla | Visitor2 |
| 12:52.58 | steev | is it part of clearfont? |
| 12:53.08 | Stanzilla | uh dunno |
| 12:53.10 | steev | not like i can get in game to make the change any time soon |
| 12:53.18 | cnc|work | they buffed pvp gems |
| 12:53.23 | cnc|work | they're no longer unique equipped |
| 12:53.32 | Funkeh` | AHMAGAD? |
| 12:53.34 | cnc|work | (arena points for em now though |
| 12:53.37 | Funkeh` | you can have as amny as you want!? |
| 12:53.39 | cnc|work | for the non unique equipped version |
| 12:53.42 | Funkeh` | oh fuck |
| 12:53.45 | Funkeh` | arena shit |
| 12:53.47 | cnc|work | ya Funkeh`, for arena points :p |
| 12:53.50 | CIA-45 | 03kunda * r78470 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: GloryLib: oops missed something - deDE update |
| 12:53.51 | cnc|work | 800 points a pop |
| 12:53.55 | Funkeh` | jesus |
| 12:53.57 | Funkeh` | screw that |
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| 12:54.20 | cnc|work | its good if you got all your s4 |
| 12:54.28 | cnc|work | and you done farming point for the next seaso |
| 12:55.10 | cnc|work | Headless Horseman [The Horseman's Blade] and [The Horseman's Reins] have been added to his loot table. |
| 12:55.16 | cnc|work | since when is that boss still up ? :o |
| 12:55.29 | CIA-45 | 03cbenny * r78471 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: AutoTurnin: added 'Open for Business' SSO quest |
| 12:56.12 | Stanzilla | he's there during the festival |
| 12:56.14 | Fisker- | how do you shot colors, fonts, etc. Stanzilla ? |
| 12:56.29 | cnc|work | hmmm, headless horseman wasn't a year ago was it ? |
| 12:56.46 | phyber | there should be [The Headless Horseman's Head] somewhere, so you can taunt him with it. |
| 12:56.56 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: what do you mean? the background with the blue line is a kgpanel |
| 12:57.13 | Fisker- | i has fugly grey backgrounds on my shit |
| 12:57.14 | Fisker- | :o |
| 12:57.25 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 12:57.31 | Stanzilla | that's the background alpha |
| 12:57.35 | Stanzilla | slider to 0 |
| 12:58.26 | digmouse | is cheat death fix means that rogue would no longer take more pve gear to arenas? |
| 12:59.24 | Fisker- | btw |
| 12:59.30 | Fisker- | what statblock addon should you be using? |
| 12:59.33 | Fisker- | seem to be 2 |
| 12:59.38 | Funkeh` | core |
| 12:59.41 | Fisker- | statblock and statblocks ;_ |
| 12:59.43 | kenlyric | phyber: it should summon a headless horseman combat pet |
| 12:59.44 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 12:59.47 | Funkeh` | statblock_ |
| 12:59.49 | kenlyric | like in Sleepy Hollow |
| 13:00.12 | Fisker- | so whats the StatBlocks_ addons? |
| 13:00.14 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, Broker_ also work with it |
| 13:00.17 | Fisker- | confusing z0rz |
| 13:00.18 | Funkeh` | it's the old version |
| 13:00.25 | Funkeh` | not really, read threads :) |
| 13:00.34 | Fisker- | no |
| 13:00.39 | Funkeh` | your mom then |
| 13:01.01 | cnc|work | Equipping an item will now cancel any spell cast currently in progress. |
| 13:01.02 | cnc|work | owned :p |
| 13:01.03 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 13:01.19 | kenlyric | what action does that nerf? |
| 13:01.21 | Funkeh` | awesome change |
| 13:01.35 | cnc|work | kenlyric: using addons to swap enchanted weapons mainly |
| 13:01.40 | Funkeh` | haven't heard lots of whining in a long time! |
| 13:01.52 | cnc|work | and also evocation for mage |
| 13:02.15 | kenlyric | but you ahve to make those swaps before you cast anyway, right? |
| 13:02.32 | Fisker- | kenlyric nah |
| 13:02.33 | Fisker- | that's the trick |
| 13:02.45 | Fisker- | if you switch during the cast no GCD is put |
| 13:02.57 | Fisker- | For example if i have spellsurge i can change it for a +81 healing enchanted weapon |
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| 13:04.13 | cnc|work | yea, and when the cd on spellsurge ends, switch it back in |
| 13:04.28 | kenlyric | so it'll cancel the spellsurge buff too? |
| 13:04.35 | kenlyric | or just cancel active casts |
| 13:04.42 | cnc|work | active cast |
| 13:04.59 | kenlyric | so you could still do it, you'd just lose a GCD |
| 13:05.28 | Fisker- | of course |
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| 13:05.31 | ramoz | 2.4.3 out in the us? |
| 13:05.33 | kenlyric | you'd get fucked with something like evocate though |
| 13:05.36 | Fisker- | which is pretty damn important when healing stuff that's about to die |
| 13:08.25 | Gngsk | ramoz, yah |
| 13:09.17 | Vulcanus | Guild leaders should now be able to properly promote a new guild leader regardless of their range. <-- oh shit, XD my GM got a stick up his arse yest after I said "e-penis" in /g and tried to make me new leader so he could quit, I avoided it by running away, now that doesnt work anymore XD |
| 13:10.22 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 13:11.47 | evl | nevcairiel: seems like a pretty big nerf |
| 13:11.56 | evl | <Sec|MasterLoco> adds from 120k to 85k |
| 13:12.00 | evl | M'uru from 3.1 to 2.6 ish apparently |
| 13:12.07 | evl | that's not 5% :P |
| 13:12.24 | nevcairiel | i doubt someone has actually been to muru after the nerf now :P |
| 13:12.50 | evl | WHAT |
| 13:12.54 | evl | Kungen was there |
| 13:12.58 | evl | before Muru even existed |
| 13:13.02 | evl | De-Lorean |
| 13:13.25 | nevcairiel | kungen could diaf if you ask me, but meh :P |
| 13:13.41 | evl | Fire dies to Kungen my friend |
| 13:13.48 | evl | So rumors say |
| 13:13.51 | evl | 30% nerf to ALL hp on muru |
| 13:13.57 | evl | adds, entrop, muru |
| 13:14.03 | Vulcanus | Kungen just kills the fire with the 7 thunderfury's he has strapped to his head |
| 13:14.26 | evl | Vulcanus: He replaced them with Mu'Dibs Crys |
| 13:14.31 | evl | But his fists are so big |
| 13:14.34 | Vulcanus | WAT |
| 13:14.35 | evl | He actually just screams BOO |
| 13:14.36 | Vulcanus | UNPOSSIBLE |
| 13:14.40 | evl | and clears the instance |
| 13:14.54 | evl | Anyway |
| 13:15.01 | evl | nerf is kael dejavu |
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| 13:18.53 | evl | One could also speculate that WOTLK beta is close since they nerf it so hard |
| 13:19.01 | evl | Hasn't been a new alpha patch in 3-4 weeks |
| 13:19.25 | cnc|work | giev beta |
| 13:19.27 | cnc|work | and giev a key for it |
| 13:20.22 | Fisker- | They've been merging ui stuff with 2.4.3 as well |
| 13:20.48 | cnc|work | what Fisker- ? |
| 13:21.14 | Lukian | the timer and clock changes |
| 13:23.52 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle 07Adirelle * r78472 10PT3Bar/PT3Bar/ (Config.lua PT3Bar.lua PT3Bar.toc libs/): |
| 13:23.52 | CIA-45 | PT3Bar: (Adirelle's) |
| 13:23.52 | CIA-45 | - got rid of BabbleSpell-2.2 optionnal dependency, |
| 13:23.52 | CIA-45 | - use now use LibPeriodicTable-3.1, |
| 13:23.52 | CIA-45 | - removed pre-2.1 stuff. |
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| 13:31.10 | Fisker- | Lukian yeah and moar |
| 13:31.21 | Fisker- | MUCH MOAR |
| 13:31.26 | nevcairiel | not that much though |
| 13:31.28 | Fisker- | munch munch |
| 13:31.31 | nevcairiel | look at the framexml diffs |
| 13:31.50 | Fisker- | i am decieving you |
| 13:33.09 | Trela | Now I wish WoWAceUpdater for Mac knew how to manage libraries. |
| 13:33.19 | cnc|work | Trela: get JWoWUpdater |
| 13:33.21 | cnc|work | or do it manualy |
| 13:33.28 | nevcairiel | or just run with embeds |
| 13:33.50 | Trela | I just go a Finder search for Ace and delete the junk. :D |
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| 13:34.06 | CIA-45 | 03digmouse * r78473 10AutoBar/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 13:34.06 | CIA-45 | AutoBar : |
| 13:34.06 | CIA-45 | -zhCN update |
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| 13:35.07 | Trela | Deleting embedded for me reduced the size of my AddOns by around 20mbs. XD |
| 13:35.29 | CIA-45 | 03Cybersea * r78474 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 13:35.29 | CIA-45 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 13:35.30 | CIA-45 | - updated ruRU localization |
| 13:36.37 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78475 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 13:36.37 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 13:36.37 | CIA-45 | - FIX: leak less memory kthx |
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| 13:48.12 | Lukian | Trela, or WUU |
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| 13:55.41 | DARKGuy | o/ |
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| 13:57.15 | Groktar | yay the hdtv that i accidently ordered is coming tomorrow |
| 13:57.15 | Groktar | >< |
| 13:57.30 | Funkeh` | how do you "accidentaly" order and hdtv |
| 13:57.47 | Groktar | it was more like i ordered it on newegg |
| 13:58.00 | Groktar | and then 10 minutes later sanity returned |
| 13:58.04 | Groktar | and i cancelled it |
| 13:58.08 | Funkeh` | like your heart told you one thing and your pocket told you another? |
| 13:58.09 | Groktar | but they shipped it anyway |
| 13:58.14 | CIA-45 | 03Cybersea * r78476 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: dummy ruRU localization. need total translate |
| 13:58.36 | Groktar | i'm just going to refuse delivery |
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| 13:59.25 | Groktar | imo, should have ordered a more expensive one and gotten no payments 12 months instead of 6 months |
| 13:59.50 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=31190 |
| 13:59.52 | Funkeh` | HUNTER LOVE |
| 14:00.56 | DARKGuy | Groktar: well, if you don't want the HDTV, I do :) |
| 14:01.09 | Groktar | lol |
| 14:01.35 | Groktar | hmm |
| 14:02.02 | Groktar | so i now i know to make fun of any hunter who brings anything but a cat, ravager, or raptor to a raid |
| 14:02.20 | CIA-45 | 03grayhoof * r78477 10sct/sct.lua: sct: Use 2.4.3 dispel events |
| 14:02.29 | Lukian | Groktar, but some pets deal spelldamge |
| 14:02.33 | Lukian | which ignores armor :) |
| 14:02.39 | Groktar | o? |
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| 14:02.44 | DARKGuy | ftw ^^ |
| 14:02.48 | Lukian | wind serpents, etc |
| 14:03.01 | Lukian | apparently they have less health, and thus less survivability though.. |
| 14:03.04 | Lukian | shrugs |
| 14:04.08 | Groktar | says wind serpents have normal health |
| 14:04.35 | CIA-45 | 03grayhoof * r78478 10Proximo/Proximo.lua: Proximo: Use new /targetenemyplayer command for all targeting. |
| 14:04.44 | Matrix110 | Wind Serpents fuck Elemental Shamans |
| 14:04.48 | Matrix110 | they eat Stormstrike |
| 14:05.01 | Lukian | Groktar, yeah I think the person who said that was being retarded :) |
| 14:05.17 | Groktar | o |
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| 14:05.38 | Groktar | so mu'ru nerfed |
| 14:05.50 | Groktar | we made it p2 for the first time last night |
| 14:05.51 | Groktar | 3 times |
| 14:05.53 | Groktar | >< |
| 14:06.03 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78479 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 14:06.03 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 14:06.03 | CIA-45 | - FIX: stop tracking pet casts as our own (seems to affect only earthbind totem). |
| 14:06.23 | phyber | is there qq about level 58 scrubs in green gear killing the nerfed muru yet? |
| 14:06.23 | Groktar | don't understand nerfing the side waves tho |
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| 14:06.26 | Groktar | they were fine |
| 14:06.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+v ZealotOnAStick] by ChanServ |
| 14:06.41 | Groktar | like, we'd kill those 15+ seconds early |
| 14:06.43 | Lukian | Groktar, one owl and one wolf might be ok too |
| 14:07.18 | Matrix110 | Groktar muru is everything than fine the fight is a complete design failure requiring a totally fucked setup |
| 14:07.22 | Groktar | imo, nerf void sentinel dmg |
| 14:07.37 | Groktar | Matrix110: i said the SIDE WAVES were fine |
| 14:08.14 | Groktar | and we don't really bring that weird a setup |
| 14:08.26 | Matrix110 | Well what I mean is |
| 14:08.30 | Groktar | except for the requisite 5 shaman bullshit on any tightly tuned fight |
| 14:08.48 | ZealotOnAStick | matrix - it's extremely tightly tuned, and it needs a slightly uncommon composition. |
| 14:08.53 | Matrix110 | Kalecgos 8 healers Brutallus 7 Healers Felmyst 8-10healers Twins 10healers Muru 6 healers |
| 14:08.54 | ZealotOnAStick | I do predict it being nerfed eventually. |
| 14:08.55 | Killmore | yet down muru a few time under 20% p2 yesterday and last week |
| 14:09.39 | Matrix110 | Muru needs more tanks than other fights, muru needs more melee dps than other fights or heavy caster setup for aoeing |
| 14:09.57 | Matrix110 | And the Shaman thing as mentioned |
| 14:10.11 | Groktar | we only bring 3 tanks and 2 rogues, 1 enh shaman, 1 ms warrior for melee |
| 14:10.30 | Matrix110 | oh fuck I updated Addons |
| 14:10.32 | Groktar | and that doesn't add up to 5 |
| 14:10.49 | Groktar | maybe we have a side tank in the melee group |
| 14:13.01 | cnc|work | any breaking addon changes for 2.4.3 ? |
| 14:13.02 | Groktar | it took us a while to stabilize sentinel tank healing with the pally grabbing those along with the aoe pack |
| 14:13.04 | ckknight | woo, 2.4.3 patch! |
| 14:13.10 | Groktar | but i think it will pay off p2 |
| 14:13.13 | Groktar | having the extra dps |
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| 14:14.39 | Zariel | With AceConfig-3.0 i have duplicate settings to change different catagories, this requires having 2x the config code and only changing the get,set and names. Is there a way of doing it without duplicating the config table? |
| 14:16.20 | syeren | Parrot is only another patch behind now ckknight!! |
| 14:16.22 | syeren | ^.- |
| 14:16.39 | ckknight | syeren: profalbert has been working on a branch for 2.4's combat log |
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| 14:17.05 | syeren | Pfftt, it's good but not ckknight's Parrot 2.0! |
| 14:17.06 | Kuosi | is there something parrot will be able to do that msbt doesnt already do tho? |
| 14:17.17 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 14:18.59 | Groktar | has a sudden urge to change the title of the guild website to "Groktar is Amazing" |
| 14:20.09 | Chompers | 2.4.3 baby |
| 14:20.10 | Chompers | woo |
| 14:20.22 | Groktar | much better |
| 14:20.22 | cnc|work | WTS 15 minutes |
| 14:20.24 | Matrix110 | Last time I checked MSBT it only had like 2 or 3 animation styles |
| 14:20.27 | Chompers | no more CoS, one less debuff to use |
| 14:20.34 | Matrix110 | Parrot has dozen different ones with config options |
| 14:21.20 | Fisker- | omg Chompers |
| 14:21.28 | Fisker- | By speaking in here you are modifying my rams |
| 14:21.35 | Fisker- | PREPARE TO BE BOARDED RAWR |
| 14:22.40 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78480 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 14:22.40 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 14:22.40 | CIA-45 | - FIX: replace some "cast on self" bits i removed by accident. |
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| 14:26.34 | Pkekyo| | I'm a fucking moron |
| 14:26.39 | Pkekyo| | >.< |
| 14:27.00 | Groktar | we know! |
| 14:27.06 | Groktar | kekeke |
| 14:27.11 | Chompers | Fisker-: don't board me please |
| 14:27.15 | cnc|work | Pkekyo|: I totaly agree |
| 14:27.17 | Chompers | you don't fit |
| 14:27.19 | cnc|work | but cld u also tell us why ? |
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| 14:34.50 | ShaneSveller | I'd just like to throw out a quick thanks to those of you working on all the stuff pertaining to LibDataBroker, as a whole it all sounds very useful. |
| 14:35.45 | Pkekyo| | cnc|work: was transfering photos from my camera to comp. last night, forgot to shut it off afterwards so the batteries are drained, and I need it |
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| 14:41.14 | Wraithan | Mornin folks |
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| 14:42.42 | AckisWork | morning everyone |
| 14:43.09 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78481 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 14:43.10 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 14:43.10 | CIA-45 | - FIX: Stop refreshing bars unnecessarily. |
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| 14:50.59 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 14:51.24 | Arrowmaster | kaspersky just told me blizzard updater was trying to shutdown the operating system or obtain shutdown premissions |
| 14:51.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 14:53.50 | CIA-45 | LibBabble-Inventory-3.0 |
| 14:53.50 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU translation |
| 14:55.59 | Arrowmaster | 'Zoning into an instance on a PvE realm will now drop your PvP flag.' i hope that applies to instances in none contested zones on pvp servers |
| 14:56.24 | nevcairiel | i doubt it |
| 14:56.47 | nevcairiel | how many instances are in non-contested zones anyway |
| 14:56.54 | Kuja^ | they say pve realm and it should apply to pvp servers? :o |
| 14:57.06 | Arrowmaster | like the only time ive ever been in a party with a shaman on my rogue alt was in SM and i still never got windfury due to him being pvp flaged for a while then it droping then him getting pvp flaged again by healing somebody that was |
| 14:57.24 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i can think of 4 |
| 14:57.31 | Arrowmaster | if you count SM as 1 |
| 14:57.41 | nevcairiel | oh noes you didnt get WF in SM *care* :P |
| 14:57.42 | Arrowmaster | oh wait 5 |
| 14:58.04 | Arrowmaster | i didnt really care that much it was just annoying |
| 14:58.22 | nevcairiel | think about that on PvE realms in raids |
| 14:58.29 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 14:58.48 | Arrowmaster | its just as annoying in the instances it happens in on pvp realms |
| 14:58.51 | Wraithan | Depending on party makeup I make rogues use their poisons, or deal with using flametongue |
| 14:59.00 | Wraithan | since I am almost always with a hunter |
| 14:59.04 | Wraithan | GoA ftw |
| 15:02.50 | Arrowmaster | Warlocks: Demonic Sacrifice: This ability will now interact correctly |
| 15:02.50 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.51 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.51 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.51 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.53 | Arrowmaster | bah |
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| 15:03.11 | Arrowmaster | but yeah, that means 1 shard per res right? |
| 15:03.28 | nevcairiel | if you are a sacrifice-lock |
| 15:03.28 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:03.38 | nevcairiel | except if you hurry with summoning |
| 15:03.47 | nevcairiel | you get a free-cast buff after ressurect |
| 15:03.51 | Arrowmaster | good thing i dont pvp in this game since its fucking broken |
| 15:03.58 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: that only works in arenas |
| 15:04.05 | Wraithan | Sounds like it was broken before and they fixed it |
| 15:04.12 | nevcairiel | i figured it wouldnt save you the shard |
| 15:04.13 | nevcairiel | only the mana |
| 15:04.29 | Wraithan | why should you get your pet back after death if you sacrificed it? |
| 15:04.34 | Arrowmaster | no sounds like some idiot at blizzard decided it was broken before but not its broken |
| 15:05.06 | Wraithan | Their change makes sense to me, you sacrifice your pet and it is gone, shouldn't give it back to you for free |
| 15:05.22 | Arrowmaster | youre obviously not a warlock |
| 15:05.28 | nevcairiel | dont warlocks usually use their felhunter or something like that anyway? |
| 15:05.43 | Wraithan | Arrowmaster: and you obviously don't like logic. |
| 15:06.06 | AckisWork | the cake is a lie |
| 15:06.12 | Arrowmaster | felhunter for arena, i tend to sac my sucubus when i go into bgs (which i never do) |
| 15:06.51 | nevcairiel | so why do you care? :P |
| 15:07.09 | Arrowmaster | because now ill never do bgs |
| 15:07.10 | Wraithan | If someone slaughters your pet you get it back on resurrect, that is pretty nice of them, cuts on some downtime after rezing, but if you CHOOSE to get rid of your pet, why should you get it back? |
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| 15:07.47 | Wraithan | Give me a good reason is all I ask, instead of "youre obviously not a warlock" |
| 15:08.41 | Lukian | It's a 10 second cast time :p |
| 15:08.43 | Arrowmaster | because that entire mechanic was added to the game to prevent warlocks from having to use a shard on every res in a battleground, and why should it only apply depending on your spec |
| 15:09.26 | Wraithan | It was added because people would kill lock pets because it would grief the lock, you choosing to get rid of your pet is a different case |
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| 15:09.55 | Arrowmaster | no it wasnt |
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| 15:10.14 | Arrowmaster | we had to do the same thing no matter what before |
| 15:10.26 | Arrowmaster | kill us or the pet then us and we still had to resummon it and spend a shard |
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| 15:11.30 | Wraithan | Still, it is your active choice to remove your pet from the game, so it is your choice to use a shard to get it back |
| 15:13.09 | AckisWork | new topic: my butt is itchy |
| 15:13.11 | Wraithan | The change makes sense to me, the fact that it makes one build harder to use in BGs doesn't make a hoot of a difference to me, sounds more like an exploit to be able to go out destroy your pet so you can be stronger, then get it back for free |
| 15:13.11 | Arrowmaster | yes its my choice to spec the only viable raid dps spec and spend 21 talent points in the demonology tree just so i can be penalized every time i bg while the noobguard locks get their noobguard back every res nomatter what |
| 15:14.36 | Arrowmaster | well i guess it wont matter in wotlk since the warlock talents are fucking broken and any 0/21/50 lock will be fire anyway |
| 15:15.14 | Arrowmaster | except ofcurse the fucking 10 second cast time on every fucking res |
| 15:15.16 | AckisWork | I can see the logic behind the change... you don't get a free pet if someone kills your pet do you? But I also know shard farming = a bitch |
| 15:15.38 | Arrowmaster | AckisWork: yes you do |
| 15:15.53 | Matrix110 | Cant really say smth about Mage Talents yet in WotLK seems like Frost being superior in the start atleast and laterone it might be fire again... |
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| 15:16.14 | Wraithan | lawlz, I just get a kick out of people complaining that their class is no longer viable or whatever because of this that or the other thing that blizzard just did |
| 15:16.15 | Gnarfoz | good thing we're talking about warlocks, then :p |
| 15:16.24 | Matrix110 | Warlocks suck anyway |
| 15:16.33 | Matrix110 | Better Single Target dmg than mages and better AoE ... |
| 15:16.33 | nevcairiel | I support the reasoning behind it though, its your choice to PvP with your raid spec and its your choice to sacrifice your pet |
| 15:16.36 | nevcairiel | so live with it |
| 15:16.37 | Gnarfoz | they suck mage's whine tears, yes :P |
| 15:16.45 | Wraithan | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.46 | durcyn | mage? that's the thing that scorches for the dumb fire warlocks, right? |
| 15:17.00 | durcyn | nah, we don't need mages anymore. |
| 15:17.14 | Matrix110 | Frost>all! |
| 15:17.19 | CIA-45 | 03next96 * r78483 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc: |
| 15:17.19 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:17.19 | CIA-45 | - toc koKR translation (thank you Ackis) |
| 15:17.25 | Wraithan | My mage is spec'd frost, I love it |
| 15:17.31 | Gnarfoz | for the 'more dps than mages, regardless of being shadow or fire destruction spec' warlocks? :p |
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| 15:20.54 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: first thing I did on my alt-lock was to get a 28 soul shard bag heh... level 10-55 with 28 shards is nice |
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| 15:21.29 | Arrowmaster | ive had a 28 slot bag since they introduced them into the game |
| 15:21.56 | Arrowmaster | and not that pussy vendor bought recipe one |
| 15:22.10 | Wraithan | Is the 28 the one that takes the MC pieces? |
| 15:22.10 | durcyn | core felcloth > * |
| 15:22.19 | Elkano | ok, I should quit for today... just saw the sun light falling through the window leaving a really bright spot at the wall... and my first thought was "Cool, HDR!" :/ |
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| 15:22.44 | thul | Elkano: hdr is fun, if done right :-P |
| 15:22.49 | AckisWork | don't leave me yet Elkano |
| 15:23.07 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: mine is the vendor one, my lock was created after BC :P |
| 15:23.24 | AckisWork | Elkano: someone was reporting issues w/ your move anything mod and ARL... have you noticed anything yourself? |
| 15:23.42 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78484 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:23.42 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:23.42 | CIA-45 | - Philosopher's Stone -> 200 per patch notes |
| 15:23.42 | CIA-45 | - Removed conditionals for new 2.4.3 tailoring patterns |
| 15:23.42 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 15:24.00 | Vulcanus | oi, us EU peopels dont have 2.4.3 yet :( |
| 15:24.18 | AckisWork | pfft |
| 15:24.19 | durcyn | back of the bus, Vulcanus. |
| 15:24.26 | CIA-45 | 03arrowmaster * r78485 10BigWigs_KalecgosPortals/BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.lua: BigWigs_KalecgosPortals: hide the damn frame OnDisable |
| 15:24.26 | Vulcanus | wat |
| 15:24.59 | CIA-45 | 03arrowmaster * r78486 10BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.lua: BigWigs_KalecgosHealth: hide the damn frame OnDisable |
| 15:25.00 | AckisWork | when do Asian servers get patched? |
| 15:25.01 | Elkano | Ackis, no I didn't... but I'll have to leave anyways... got a Warhammer Fantasy pen and paper session scheduled later |
| 15:25.17 | AckisWork | Elkano: lol ok, check out the ARL thread when you get a chance please |
| 15:25.21 | Vulcanus | lolhammer |
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| 15:27.21 | Gnarfoz | gah lol |
| 15:27.39 | digmouse | Ackis: next tuesday and thursday |
| 15:27.48 | Gnarfoz | I've had my editor open with Glory-2.0.lua for 2 days now, and by now someone else has fixed what I wanted to fix |
| 15:28.00 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:28.01 | digmouse | cn and kr on Tuesday and TW on Thursday |
| 15:28.27 | AckisWork | digmouse: ahh ok,how do they deal with moron authors like me making it 2.4.3 compatible already? Just don't update? |
| 15:28.56 | digmouse | Ackis: we just dont publish them to the noob users :D |
| 15:28.56 | Gnarfoz | you could just put the conditionals back in until all regions are patched |
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| 15:29.33 | AckisWork | digmouse: aren't there users who use WAU for example? |
| 15:29.51 | digmouse | u know not many cn users know how to get addons from wowace, and we'll tell them not to do that till patched |
| 15:30.07 | AckisWork | ahh ok, wasn't sure about that :) |
| 15:30.45 | digmouse | so dont worry, just like 2.4.2 money format patch :D <3 Ackis for your concern |
| 15:31.30 | digmouse | go sleep see ya guys |
| 15:36.24 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78487 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua): |
| 15:36.24 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:36.24 | CIA-45 | - Ticket 24 fix (LW drums rep levels fixed) |
| 15:36.25 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 15:42.01 | sacarasc | i always see that -p as a cyclops sticking out his tongue |
| 15:42.12 | AckisWork | lol |
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| 15:46.57 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 15:47.15 | DARKGuy | commandline parameters won't be the same for me again |
| 15:47.25 | DARKGuy | people will look at me when I giggle at a -p |
| 15:47.41 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 15:48.13 | AckisWork | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/tra :D |
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| 15:48.50 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: clicked ^_^ |
| 15:48.55 | Camci | http://www.snotr.com/video/953 |
| 15:49.05 | AckisWork | yay! :D |
| 15:49.06 | Wraithan | hope it still works without flash |
| 15:49.48 | Camci | what is that thing? |
| 15:50.10 | AckisWork | it worked lol... it's a online lame version of sim city |
| 15:50.20 | Camci | lol |
| 15:50.40 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78488 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 15:50.40 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:50.40 | CIA-45 | - Change order of Display options |
| 15:50.40 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 15:54.07 | aestil | has anyone here killed mu'ru on the ptr? |
| 15:54.14 | aestil | my guild just got to him this week. |
| 15:54.18 | AckisWork | I've killed M'uru on live |
| 15:54.23 | aestil | so we will have killed him 'post nerf' |
| 15:54.28 | aestil | i'm wondering how drastic the nerf is. |
| 15:54.34 | CIA-45 | 03trasher * r78489 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.toc: |
| 15:54.34 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 15:54.34 | CIA-45 | - add frFR |
| 15:54.37 | nevcairiel | no one knows yet |
| 15:54.38 | AckisWork | figures thrown around are 20%ish |
| 15:54.38 | CIA-45 | 03Cybersea * r78490 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 15:54.38 | CIA-45 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 15:54.38 | CIA-45 | - ruRU update |
| 15:54.52 | aestil | that will certainly make it less of a dps crunch. |
| 15:54.56 | aestil | perhaps an extra healer? |
| 15:55.33 | AckisWork | meh, you can do it w/ 6 healers, why not keep 6 and kill him faster? :P |
| 15:55.45 | aestil | cause we havn't done it yet? |
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| 15:55.58 | aestil | and we aren't really a min/max type of guild. |
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| 15:56.13 | aestil | i'd rather take as many people as deserve to be there. |
| 15:56.22 | aestil | not just an artificial 'we need this many dps' |
| 15:56.37 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78491 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Correct display of seconds on timers greater than 1 hour. |
| 15:56.51 | AckisWork | aestil: the way the fights are setup, you need to min/max somewhat... twins needs a shit load of healers, m'uru doesn't... |
| 15:57.03 | aestil | yeah. |
| 15:57.10 | aestil | we took 10 healers to twins. |
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| 15:57.21 | aestil | its not our preference though. |
| 15:57.31 | aestil | we did pre nerf kael with 2 locks and 1 mage. |
| 15:57.36 | nevcairiel | we do twins with 11 |
| 15:58.35 | sb | shh, twins are evil! :/ |
| 15:58.48 | sb | but i think we can kill them today.... |
| 15:59.03 | aestil | mu'ru before this nerf was harder than twins i think. i dunno about now. |
| 15:59.06 | AckisWork | felmyst requires at least 3 priests :P brut was a hella dps race |
| 15:59.19 | aestil | we have at least 3 priests in every raid. |
| 15:59.44 | aestil | and brut was a dps race, but it didn't really require too much personel shuffling. |
| 15:59.49 | aestil | for us anyways. |
| 16:00.44 | Industrial | Anyone have experience with capturing vids (not for wowactually but another game)? Fraps only does 30 sec and then it stops (fucking shareware)... |
| 16:01.05 | sacarasc | buy the full thing! |
| 16:01.09 | Industrial | never |
| 16:01.37 | AckisWork | www.frapsforfree.com (aka piratebay?) |
| 16:01.54 | sacarasc | that's probably not very legal |
| 16:02.04 | Industrial | doesnt care about that |
| 16:02.11 | Industrial | already downloading it |
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| 16:02.46 | AckisWork | it's only illegal if you get caught |
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| 16:04.20 | Funkeh` | wy do you want seconds on timers greater than an hour |
| 16:04.24 | Funkeh` | that's crazy talk |
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| 16:04.50 | Industrial | just having one look |
| 16:04.51 | Industrial | :P? |
| 16:05.12 | Funkeh` | CRAAAAAAAAAAAAZY |
| 16:06.02 | Industrial | moo |
| 16:06.19 | Industrial | http://www.pclaunches.com/graphic_cards/powercolor_pcs_hd4850_is_the_worlds_first_graphics_card_with_2gb_memory.php |
| 16:07.35 | AckisWork | discussion: make http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AckisRecipeList/AboutPanel.lua a real library or just leave it as a drop-on for mods which use it? (I use it, tek uses the origianl version (he wrote it :P), some other people have expressed interest in it) |
| 16:07.57 | Stanzilla | eave it as a drop-on for mods which use it |
| 16:08.04 | Stanzilla | fail at copypaste >.< |
| 16:08.46 | AckisWork | my concern is: I use it in 4 mods (all of mine), I made a change, had to update all 4 of said mods |
| 16:09.01 | Wraithan | That is library fodder to me |
| 16:09.10 | AckisWork | however, I don't want it to be an "AckisLib-1.0", only would want to share if and only if people would use it |
| 16:09.15 | Wraithan | duplicate code is just asking for trouble |
| 16:10.11 | AckisWork | well, the way tek wrote it is that it acts like a library so it only loads once (or should), it's just c&p into the different add-ons |
| 16:10.16 | Funkeh` | I couldn't care more about an about panel |
| 16:10.17 | Funkeh` | really |
| 16:10.22 | Funkeh` | zomg ingame title |
| 16:10.28 | Funkeh` | open he toc if you care |
| 16:11.02 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: that's for technical users... how many people out there don't even know about that? |
| 16:11.11 | Funkeh` | How much people care? |
| 16:11.27 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78492 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua locale-enUS.lua locale.lua): |
| 16:11.27 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 16:11.27 | CIA-45 | - FIX: Rename locale file to match trasher's TOC change. (Please remember to commit new/renamed files with changes) |
| 16:11.44 | AckisWork | I wouldn't say many care, but if it's in their face, they know who wrote it, where to go for help, etc |
| 16:11.46 | Funkeh` | I don't think I've seen a single post of anyone caring since the launch of ace3 |
| 16:11.58 | AckisWork | since I added it in, I've got more tickets on CF |
| 16:11.59 | Funkeh` | yeah well they read that at release sites |
| 16:13.23 | AckisWork | the way I have it rigged in ARL is they type /arl and it brings them to the panel... tells them where to go for help, where to submit tickets, plus version info/etc as an added bonus |
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| 16:19.55 | NivFreak | wow, 2.4.3 did hit |
| 16:20.22 | Aeyan | Unless you're just trying to avoid the stigma of the name libs (*cough* AlarLib), I don't see why doing that is a problem. |
| 16:21.02 | AckisWork | Aeyan: I don't see a point in making it a lib if I would be the only one to benefit from it |
| 16:21.16 | Aeyan | Eh, you're far from the first. |
| 16:21.58 | AckisWork | just because it's been done before, doesn't mean it's a good thing :P |
| 16:22.09 | Aeyan | Libs are usually created for specific projects anyway |
| 16:22.38 | Aeyan | Other people see the value in said lib and apply it to different projects after the fact |
| 16:22.46 | AckisWork | eh, I would say they're created because the code could be used by multiple projects and there's a clear added value |
| 16:23.11 | Aeyan | True enough |
| 16:24.52 | AckisWork | so far people have been go ahead if you reuse the code, Funkeh` was "I don't give a fuck about an about panel"... :P |
| 16:26.14 | Gnarfoz | that's because he's never wrong and his opinion is equal to fact |
| 16:26.15 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 16:26.32 | AckisWork | no, he's always wrong, it's nice to have his opinion though :P |
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| 16:27.11 | Gnarfoz | <Industrial> http://www.pclaunches.com/graphic_cards/powercolor_pcs_hd4850_is_the_worlds_first_graphics_card_with_2gb_memory.php <-- why are they gimping the performance of that card by using GDDR3? lol |
| 16:27.20 | Gnarfoz | another 'big numbers sell better' scam |
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| 16:31.32 | nevcairiel | nvidia is still on gddr3 too |
| 16:31.47 | nevcairiel | but didnt ATI have gddr5 on other cards already? |
| 16:31.50 | Gnarfoz | no, not "too" |
| 16:31.53 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 16:32.02 | Gnarfoz | hence my comment? |
| 16:32.05 | Gnarfoz | :p |
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| 16:32.40 | Gnarfoz | they're just fishing for the poor saps who conclude "2gb must be better than 1gb, even if the memory runs at half the clock speed" :P |
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| 16:33.15 | evl | OMG 2GB RAM |
| 16:34.13 | Funkeh` | 5!? |
| 16:34.19 | Funkeh` | 4 not good enough? |
| 16:34.26 | Gnarfoz | no, obviously not. |
| 16:34.28 | nevcairiel | but Gnarfoz, a quick research shows, the 4850 all have GDDR5 |
| 16:34.35 | nevcairiel | the 4870 have 5 |
| 16:34.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: but nevcairiel! |
| 16:34.42 | nevcairiel | er |
| 16:34.43 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 16:34.44 | Gnarfoz | a quick reading of the link says it's GDDR3 |
| 16:34.47 | nevcairiel | GDDR3 i mean |
| 16:35.07 | Gnarfoz | well, the same still applies :( |
| 16:35.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Where the heck do I find the patch on Vista? |
| 16:35.16 | Gnarfoz | larger amount of slower memory :D |
| 16:35.40 | nevcairiel | what patch? |
| 16:35.50 | ZealotOnAStick | 2.4.3 patch. |
| 16:35.53 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 16:35.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I downloaded it. |
| 16:35.59 | nevcairiel | check the download folder? |
| 16:36.02 | ZealotOnAStick | now I'm trying to find it to put it on the network share. |
| 16:36.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, on XP, it sticks it in the WoW dir. |
| 16:36.12 | Gnarfoz | seriously, Creative Labs' website sucks |
| 16:36.14 | ZealotOnAStick | I have no damn clue on Vista. |
| 16:36.29 | nevcairiel | \Users\<name>\Downloads? |
| 16:37.12 | Aeyan | Creative blows at absolutely everything except hardware =P |
| 16:37.19 | *** join/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@74.202.196.195) |
| 16:37.21 | Aeyan | Their drivers are about the worst I've seen |
| 16:37.36 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 16:38.00 | steev | much truth |
| 16:38.07 | steev | "use driver cd that came with device" |
| 16:38.15 | nevcairiel | they also suck at having competition though :/ |
| 16:38.16 | steev | wtf bitch, i lost that cd long ago |
| 16:38.28 | Gnarfoz | steev: they got the drivers on the website again, it seems |
| 16:38.29 | nevcairiel | steev: i googled for a img of my cd :D |
| 16:38.32 | Gnarfoz | (they're not HP :D) |
| 16:38.37 | steev | Gnarfoz: not all of em |
| 16:38.40 | Aeyan | I did too, hehe |
| 16:38.45 | steev | most, but not all :( |
| 16:38.46 | Gnarfoz | probably not all of them, yeah |
| 16:40.03 | steev | shit |
| 16:40.11 | steev | now the level 30s are begging for gold *sigh* |
| 16:40.17 | ckknight | lol |
| 16:40.33 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 16:40.37 | steev | my response, as always - no, but your quest log can |
| 16:40.47 | ckknight | hehe |
| 16:40.55 | ckknight | I'm glad I don't have to pay for my lvl 30 mount |
| 16:41.05 | Aeyan | They nerfed the hell out of the price too |
| 16:41.08 | ckknight | I just dinged 31 yesterday, btw |
| 16:41.27 | Aeyan | Huzzah |
| 16:41.30 | steev | one paladin change that would have been nice |
| 16:41.40 | steev | if you have imp sanctity aura - have it show that to people |
| 16:41.51 | Aeyan | That would be nice |
| 16:41.52 | steev | instead of getting the "wtf, i don't do holy damage give me a different aura" |
| 16:42.17 | Aeyan | Most of the ret paladins I seem to group with don't take that talent though |
| 16:42.22 | Tenchworks | i'm sorry but i have to ask |
| 16:42.23 | Aeyan | and I hates them |
| 16:42.23 | ckknight | what's imp. sanctity aura do? |
| 16:42.33 | Tenchworks | what does teh imp aura do? |
| 16:42.44 | Gnarfoz | more dmg for all affected units |
| 16:42.49 | Aeyan | The party gets a +2% damage bonus |
| 16:43.04 | Tenchworks | well that stupid, they so should be in the tooltip |
| 16:43.15 | Tenchworks | *that |
| 16:43.21 | Gnarfoz | that's just the 2/2 talented version |
| 16:43.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Found it. Users - Public - Public Documents - Blizzard Entertainment - World of Warcraft |
| 16:43.27 | Gnarfoz | so, no, it shouldn't be. |
| 16:43.57 | steev | imp 1 point is 1% damage, imp 2 points is 2% |
| 16:44.05 | steev | so if you have a prot pally its 12% |
| 16:44.06 | Gnarfoz | at least until they implement that for each and every case of "improved wtf". |
| 16:44.48 | Aeyan | They half did it for improved fort |
| 16:44.57 | Aeyan | Your button says 104, the buff still says 79 |
| 16:45.10 | Aeyan | Err, 102 |
| 16:46.41 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 16:46.58 | Gnarfoz | they 0% did it. |
| 16:47.16 | Gnarfoz | no buff you have from anyone shows if it's an improved buff or not |
| 16:47.59 | steev | doesn't have to say its improved |
| 16:48.11 | steev | improved blessing of might shows you the improved ap |
| 16:48.16 | Gnarfoz | no it doesn't. |
| 16:49.30 | Gnarfoz | no buff's tooltip shows improved values, because your client doesn't know who a buff is from and doesn't know other classes talent info (hence the need for addons like Talented_Data) |
| 16:50.44 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.47 | Funkeh` | what? |
| 16:50.57 | steev | woo, absorbed a whole 18 now with cheat death |
| 16:51.00 | Funkeh` | less time + more time in the same sentance |
| 16:51.07 | steev | yes |
| 16:51.20 | *** join/#wowace Ghli (n=Ghli@32.159.152.0) |
| 16:51.29 | steev | meaning 1:20 instead of waiting for 2 minutes for no one to show up |
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| 16:51.41 | Funkeh` | no, that's not what it says |
| 16:51.45 | Funkeh` | it says give more time |
| 16:52.14 | Aiiane | more time after the people who werent going to enter for a new set of people to pop |
| 16:52.34 | Funkeh` | ahh |
| 16:52.40 | Funkeh` | so inside you still have 2 minutes |
| 16:52.45 | Aiiane | i.e. 2 minute wait period - 2 minute prompt = 0 seconds left for 2nd wave of people |
| 16:52.46 | Funkeh` | but outside you have 1.20 |
| 16:52.50 | Funkeh` | I see |
| 16:52.59 | Aiiane | but 2 minute wait - 1.33 min prompt = 40 seconds left for 2nd wave |
| 16:53.07 | Funkeh` | yeah that makes more sense |
| 16:54.02 | steev | so on my rogue i've gone from suck, to sucks more |
| 16:54.03 | Chompers | ckknight: what character are you leveling now? |
| 16:54.51 | ckknight | Chompers: lvl 31 pally, leveling with a lvl 31 hunter |
| 16:54.59 | ckknight | holy pally, even |
| 16:55.30 | Chompers | oh right, you abandoning the other pala? |
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| 16:58.55 | ckknight | Chompers: other pally is alliance |
| 16:58.56 | ckknight | this one's horde |
| 16:59.47 | Chompers | oooh |
| 16:59.59 | steev | woot |
| 17:00.04 | steev | backstab be useless! |
| 17:00.49 | ckknight | lol, steev |
| 17:02.04 | CIA-45 | 03Krevlorn * r78493 10FuBar_HonorFuPlus/ (FuBar_HonorFuPlus.toc HonorFuPlusLocale-deFR.lua): FuBar_HonorFuPlus: added FR localization |
| 17:04.19 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=Hjalte@0x53587eef.svgnxx3.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 17:06.11 | steev | ckknight: 5% bonus damage instead of 10%? like there are so many rogues still using daggers |
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| 17:06.26 | Hjalte | Is Curse really slow for any of you as well? |
| 17:06.40 | steev | its patch day... what do you expect |
| 17:06.55 | steev | at least my shaman wasn't nerfed! |
| 17:07.08 | Hjalte | Ah. I forgot that it's patch day in the US. I'm from EU. |
| 17:07.21 | KriLL3 | how do I find out who's the leader of an Arena team? |
| 17:07.36 | Aiiane | look at armory? |
| 17:08.01 | Aiiane | the leader is highlighted in green |
| 17:08.41 | KriLL3 | ty, man that's odd |
| 17:10.04 | Hjalte | Are there some problems with Vista and writing to saved variables? My friend is having a problem with Prats saved variables not saving. |
| 17:10.17 | Aiiane | sometimes |
| 17:10.28 | Aiiane | due to Vista's "protection" of the program files folder |
| 17:10.41 | Hjalte | Is there anything he can do to it? |
| 17:10.55 | Aiiane | move wow to a non-Program Files directory? :/ |
| 17:11.15 | Aiiane | i think there's also a way to turn off the protection, but i dont remember it offhand |
| 17:11.28 | steev | could run wow as administrator |
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| 17:13.29 | KriLL3 | I love bgs crashing when you're 12s from winning |
| 17:15.06 | NeoTron | => /nerf muru |
| 17:15.13 | NeoTron | and exactly like I predicted it would be |
| 17:15.15 | NeoTron | less health |
| 17:15.35 | NeoTron | KJ nerf too |
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| 17:16.09 | KriLL3 | too few PvE guilds kill em? |
| 17:16.23 | selckin | yea only pvp ones can do it |
| 17:16.29 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 17:16.43 | Chompers | the best guilds on our server can't kill muru |
| 17:16.45 | KriLL3 | you know what I mean |
| 17:16.48 | NeoTron | what, like 40-50 in the US for 2+ motnsh? |
| 17:16.48 | Chompers | i guess it's insanely hard |
| 17:17.00 | KriLL3 | Chompers: is gear or strategy the reason? |
| 17:17.29 | Chompers | i'd imagine it's strategy |
| 17:17.51 | jy__ | finally a boss worth cthun or the twins ? |
| 17:17.53 | Aiiane | or just plain performance |
| 17:18.24 | Gngsk | so did this patch break zomgbuffs? it broke corkfu and I'm trying to set it up but it's not learning. anyone else using it? |
| 17:19.05 | KriLL3 | US got patched this week? |
| 17:19.36 | steev | today yes |
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| 17:19.58 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=thomas@84-75-156-10.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:19.58 | NeoTron | it's not so much strategy as it is the raw performance needed |
| 17:20.08 | KriLL3 | yay, Euro tomorrow |
| 17:20.11 | NeoTron | incredibly high dps, high healing (with 6 healers due to the DPS) etc |
| 17:20.26 | *** join/#wowace Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 17:20.28 | KriLL3 | no more invincible rogues |
| 17:20.47 | NeoTron | Zoning into an instance on a PvE realm will now drop your PvP flag. |
| 17:20.50 | Chompers | NeoTron: My buddies get to phase 2 |
| 17:20.54 | Chompers | but it falls apart |
| 17:21.13 | vithos | yay, blizzard failed to fix hunters still. |
| 17:21.24 | KriLL3 | hate getting a crit and the whole thing vanishing when their stupid cheat death kicks in, and then they use a healing potion, plenty of hp left and almost invulnerable |
| 17:21.27 | vithos | seems like all they can do is write patch notes |
| 17:21.32 | KriLL3 | vithos: what's wrong with em? |
| 17:21.43 | vithos | kill command breaks the 3:2 shot rotation |
| 17:21.53 | KriLL3 | that tells me nothing |
| 17:22.05 | vithos | it's kind of complicated if you don't play a hunter |
| 17:22.14 | steev | KriLL3: erm, it lasts a whopping 3 seconds |
| 17:22.19 | vithos | the 3:2 rotation is alternating cycles of steady steady auto, steady auto |
| 17:22.25 | steev | so they put off you killing them for 3-5 seconds |
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| 17:22.41 | KriLL3 | steev: it's enough to make a close fight theirs 99% of the time |
| 17:22.43 | vithos | but if there's a kill command before the first auto, the auto gets skipped |
| 17:22.52 | vithos | KC is a non-GCD instant |
| 17:23.09 | vithos | and the patch notes say: Hunters: Using an instant ability after Steady Shot will no longer lock out auto shot. |
| 17:23.19 | NeoTron | Chompers: We've gotten p1 down to 39% so far |
| 17:23.22 | NeoTron | this change should help |
| 17:23.29 | vithos | so i was all excited and went and tested it, and it's just like before. |
| 17:23.41 | NeoTron | we're able to pick a bit better dps for phase 2 too (i.e some more hybrids for added p2 synergy) |
| 17:25.04 | KriLL3 | I just logged in and I'm in shattrath but there is no terrain or buildings, just people and npcs |
| 17:25.06 | KriLL3 | can't move or cast spells |
| 17:25.38 | Aiiane | can you use the autounstuck? |
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| 17:25.47 | KriLL3 | nope, nor log out |
| 17:25.53 | KriLL3 | had to use the task manager |
| 17:26.03 | Aiiane | sounds like client bug |
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| 17:27.48 | KriLL3 | logged in again, still like that |
| 17:27.50 | *** join/#wowace Dunecat (n=Vegeta-G@137.226.248.218) |
| 17:28.09 | KriLL3 | entered AB just to try and I was next to the NPC, works fine it seems... all looks ok |
| 17:28.18 | KriLL3 | just hope it doesn't crash again and it's normal when I leave it |
| 17:34.50 | NivFreak | vithos: did you test it on the PTR? :P |
| 17:37.23 | vithos | i was going to. i made it as far as logging in without addons and logging back out but then got distracted. |
| 17:38.53 | steev | cheat death is pretty much retarded now |
| 17:40.02 | Aiiane | it was retarded to begin with |
| 17:41.22 | vithos | imo they should have people who understand how the classes work on payroll, it shouldn't be my job to tell them what doesn't work, and it's not like they've listened in the past anyway |
| 17:42.11 | charon | bleh, my game crashed and now it's stuck at Handshaking, anything i can do to rule out a problem on my end other than nuking Cache/*? |
| 17:42.15 | thul | I ordered lots of books today! |
| 17:42.15 | thul | "The Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Nonbeliever", "Matter", "The Player of Games", "The Future of Ideas: The Fate of the Commons in a Connected World", "Code: And Other Laws of Cyberspace, Version 2.0", "Blasphemy: How the Religious Right is Hijacking the Declaration of Independence", "Atheist Universe: The Thinking Person's Answer to Christian Fundamentalism", "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America" |
| 17:43.54 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78494 10kgPanels/ (kgPanels.lua kgPanels.toc): |
| 17:43.54 | CIA-45 | kgPanels: added support for LibDataBroker-1.1 |
| 17:43.54 | CIA-45 | Display mod who support launcher interface will give you a quickluanch button to the config |
| 17:45.24 | Aiiane | charon - try gracefully exiting WoW and starting back up? |
| 17:46.12 | charon | did that several times now, no difference |
| 17:46.38 | charon | oh well let's just blame murphy or the EU login server |
| 17:47.00 | Aiiane | only other suggestion I could offer is to reboot, if you haven't yet |
| 17:47.09 | Aiiane | can be surprising how often that fixes things |
| 17:47.18 | *** join/#wowace Yasuo (n=Yasuo@dslb-088-074-057-022.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:47.30 | Dashkal | is the stopwatch anchored to the minimap? |
| 17:47.42 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 17:47.42 | *** join/#wowace Worf__ (n=worf@85.127.55.175) |
| 17:47.45 | cladhaire | well the little clock is |
| 17:47.48 | cladhaire | you can make it a timer |
| 17:48.24 | Dashkal | hmm, wonder how ckk's minimap mod will handle that |
| 17:48.39 | Dashkal | Only change that appears like it'll affect my ui |
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| 17:50.29 | binder | ~my trade chat is being spammed with "omg wtf questhelper is broken" |
| 17:50.29 | purl | binder: okay |
| 17:50.49 | binder | purl ? |
| 17:51.25 | Dashkal | ~my trade chat |
| 17:51.26 | purl | methinks my trade chat is being spammed with "omg wtf questhelper is broken" |
| 17:51.34 | Dashkal | :p |
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| 17:51.47 | binder | haha |
| 17:51.51 | binder | is that a bot? |
| 17:52.00 | Dashkal | purl, have a cookie |
| 17:52.00 | purl | Ta. *Munch* |
| 17:52.22 | binder | nice |
| 17:52.42 | binder | sorry I used ` as my screen escape and somehow hit the tilde |
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| 17:53.52 | NivFreak | 39G for riding + mount on my lvl 37 lock |
| 17:53.52 | NivFreak | lol |
| 17:53.59 | NivFreak | I like that change |
| 17:54.26 | binder | man |
| 17:54.35 | binder | I wish they were always like that |
| 17:54.41 | binder | was like 100g for a 40 mount |
| 17:54.48 | NivFreak | well, I've had a bunch of alts crawling through thier 30s |
| 17:54.53 | steev | 90s for mine at 40 so *shrug* |
| 17:54.57 | *** join/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@74.202.196.195) |
| 17:54.58 | NivFreak | because it's so fucking painful without a mount |
| 17:55.03 | NivFreak | steev: ? |
| 17:55.17 | NivFreak | oh |
| 17:55.18 | NivFreak | paladin? |
| 17:55.19 | NivFreak | :P |
| 17:55.20 | steev | paladin mount - hit 30 (now) or 40 (then) and it was 90s at the trainer |
| 17:55.20 | NivFreak | or lock |
| 17:55.27 | steev | or lock, but fuck locks |
| 17:55.32 | NivFreak | lol |
| 17:55.36 | steev | they bored the shit out of me |
| 17:55.45 | NivFreak | paladins bore the shit out of me |
| 17:55.49 | NivFreak | mine is 70 |
| 17:55.52 | NivFreak | and kara geared |
| 17:55.56 | NivFreak | I fall asleep tanking or healing |
| 17:56.02 | steev | so don't tank or heal |
| 17:56.06 | KriLL3 | dps! ' |
| 17:56.09 | NivFreak | el oh el |
| 17:56.23 | NivFreak | I'd rather dps on my warrior priest ;) |
| 17:56.24 | selckin | lua doesnt have a var++? |
| 17:56.27 | NivFreak | warrior or priest |
| 17:56.30 | NeoTron | NivFreak: lol me too man, mee too |
| 17:56.36 | NeoTron | that's why I finally decided to level my hunter |
| 17:56.47 | NeoTron | I couldn't stand even herb gathering on my pally it was so slow and painful |
| 17:56.47 | steev | so you could faceroll to 70? |
| 17:56.53 | NeoTron | if I got aggro I mean |
| 17:56.53 | NivFreak | well, I have hunter/mage/warlock all in thier 40s now |
| 17:56.58 | NivFreak | mage has been the most fun for me |
| 17:57.04 | NivFreak | the lock is a close 2nd |
| 17:57.06 | steev | yeah, mage is fun |
| 17:57.07 | NeoTron | steev: 9d or so but I did some lua dev on that char way back when so faster than that |
| 17:57.07 | NivFreak | hunter is so boring =/ |
| 17:57.16 | steev | wut |
| 17:57.18 | charon | Aiiane: reboot? am i on windows or what? :p |
| 17:57.33 | charon | but a friend tells me he can't log in either, so i guess it's in fact the server |
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| 17:57.47 | NivFreak | also, having played a hunter at 70, while farming is stupid easy, anything else makes me want to cut myself |
| 17:57.51 | steev | NeoTron: in english? |
| 17:58.37 | NeoTron | steev: I used my hunter to do addon development |
| 17:58.47 | NeoTron | so probably a day of that leveling time was just mucking around |
| 17:58.50 | Silviu- | charon is the login server @ europe |
| 17:58.59 | AckisWork | I stopped using my hunter when I had to feed his pet so much :P |
| 17:59.03 | AckisWork | now I use my rogue lol |
| 17:59.08 | charon | yeah... i play on antonidas eu |
| 17:59.17 | NeoTron | AckisWork: don't let it die! make sure it's your best buddy! |
| 17:59.26 | NeoTron | I just picked up l70 pet skill sand a ravager last night |
| 17:59.31 | NeoTron | need to make him happy so I can train him |
| 18:00.03 | AckisWork | NeoTron: lol my pet sucks :P |
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| 18:00.49 | Silviu- | Some from our raid can`t log in eighter .. and we stay in front of Muru and wait for the 2 that got disced :P |
| 18:00.58 | NivFreak | so my guild is now the most progressed guild on my server that hasn't cleared BT |
| 18:01.01 | NivFreak | not sure if that's good or bad ;) |
| 18:01.12 | ckknight | questhelper is broken? |
| 18:01.16 | charon | Silviu-: lucky me i guess... it's not a raid night so who cares ;) |
| 18:01.22 | AckisWork | ckknight: write a new one? :D |
| 18:01.23 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 18:01.44 | ckknight | AckisWork: that's an eventually thing, but for now I'd rather know whether or not I should tell smariot |
| 18:01.47 | AckisWork | you can call it: PigQuest |
| 18:01.57 | ckknight | lol |
| 18:02.05 | CIA-45 | 03arrowmaster * r78495 10Deadened/embeds.xml: Deadened: add missing AceLocale-3.0 to embeds.xml |
| 18:02.11 | ckknight | either that or Cartographer3_Quests |
| 18:02.37 | AckisWork | mmm better: CurseQuest! |
| 18:02.39 | Aiiane | 10[10:59] NivFreak: 01so my guild is now the most progressed guild on my server that hasn't cleared BT |
| 18:02.43 | Aiiane | same situation for us :P |
| 18:02.53 | Aiiane | well, nearly |
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| 18:03.06 | dieck_ | has anyone problem with login to EU? |
| 18:03.09 | NivFreak | heh |
| 18:03.15 | ckknight | AckisWork: I think that one's called Cuill or something |
| 18:03.23 | NivFreak | we just need more HoD at this point |
| 18:03.26 | ckknight | it's "in progress", which means it'll never be done |
| 18:03.27 | AckisWork | heh |
| 18:03.36 | ckknight | I'd love to work on something like that |
| 18:03.38 | AckisWork | Curse.com v2.0? |
| 18:03.51 | ckknight | AckisWork: actually v6 is what we're working on now |
| 18:03.58 | AckisWork | pokes Zyuu with his Curse.com comment |
| 18:04.02 | NivFreak | ckknight: did you fix cart3 for 2.4.3 yet? |
| 18:04.07 | AckisWork | v6? wow |
| 18:04.44 | Arrowmaster | stuff broke in 2.4.3? |
| 18:04.54 | NivFreak | cart3 stopped working for me |
| 18:04.57 | NivFreak | I don't have the errors handy |
| 18:05.01 | NivFreak | pitbull also broke |
| 18:05.04 | ckknight | NivFreak: yea, I fixed it |
| 18:05.05 | NivFreak | well |
| 18:05.07 | ckknight | PitBull broke? |
| 18:05.08 | NivFreak | threw an error |
| 18:05.08 | ckknight | damn |
| 18:05.10 | NivFreak | not really broke |
| 18:05.16 | NivFreak | some unknown spellid |
| 18:05.20 | ckknight | oh. |
| 18:05.21 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:05.28 | ckknight | get me a line number |
| 18:05.35 | NivFreak | 12331 was the spellid |
| 18:05.39 | NivFreak | I'll get you the error later |
| 18:05.40 | NivFreak | I'm at work |
| 18:05.43 | mykx | probably because of the removal of CoS ? |
| 18:05.54 | NivFreak | I thought so, but I couldn't find a spellid 12331 |
| 18:06.03 | NivFreak | and CoS was 27229 I thought |
| 18:06.14 | mykx | heh not sure |
| 18:06.19 | NivFreak | I could be wrong though |
| 18:06.37 | ckknight | that one's Bloodthirst |
| 18:06.40 | ckknight | was that changed? |
| 18:06.45 | NivFreak | uh, not that I know |
| 18:06.49 | NeoTron | No CoS makes me a happy lock |
| 18:06.51 | NeoTron | and raid leader |
| 18:07.00 | NivFreak | yas |
| 18:07.01 | NeoTron | now we don't ALWAYS need 3 locks (although I still prefer 3) |
| 18:07.11 | NivFreak | I'm cutting back 2 two locks |
| 18:07.16 | NivFreak | lock #3 becomes boomkin |
| 18:07.20 | AckisWork | why only bring 3 when you can bring 5? |
| 18:07.22 | NeoTron | on M'uru it means we have two CoD's going on M'uru which will help some |
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| 18:07.27 | mykx | our mages will be happy before we would cos/doom doom doom lol |
| 18:07.31 | NeoTron | AckisWork: we only have 3 actually |
| 18:07.36 | NeoTron | 2 left |
| 18:07.39 | NeoTron | one good, one bad |
| 18:07.39 | Aiiane | recruit 2 more :P |
| 18:07.46 | NeoTron | we've got one actually |
| 18:07.52 | NeoTron | who'd make #4 |
| 18:07.55 | sb | eu login server down? |
| 18:08.03 | sb | *cry* |
| 18:08.25 | NivFreak | anything I can do to rebalance people off the conq token will probably help our chances of sunwell progress ;) |
| 18:08.39 | NivFreak | like half our raid was on it |
| 18:09.11 | Aiiane | like i said, wtb ability to trade 2x of one token for 1x of another |
| 18:09.23 | NeoTron | Aiiane: there should be just one token |
| 18:09.27 | Aiiane | or that |
| 18:09.27 | mykx | lol they should just make it 1 of each since they drop 3 anyhow |
| 18:09.31 | NeoTron | BC > pre-bc yes |
| 18:09.38 | NeoTron | mykx: but that fails too |
| 18:09.43 | NeoTron | mykx: no raid has equal distribution |
| 18:09.55 | NivFreak | yea |
| 18:10.01 | NivFreak | let's see |
| 18:10.02 | NeoTron | in fact our druids have 2-3 belts by now not because they drop more per se but because there's les need |
| 18:10.24 | mykx | yeah I know what you mean we were bringing in alts for 3 piece sunwell vanq |
| 18:10.33 | Aiiane | pfft, just make it drop 25 tokens, according to the raid class make up :P |
| 18:10.41 | NivFreak | today I have 6 people on prot, 8 on vanq, 11 on conq |
| 18:10.44 | AckisWork | just make them drop heroic badges? |
| 18:10.44 | NivFreak | and that's better than it has been |
| 18:10.46 | AckisWork | oh wait... |
| 18:11.04 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78496 10PitBull/Aura/Filter.lua: PitBull - change Bloodthirst to spell id 23880 |
| 18:11.09 | mykx | I like that they drop badges, can sell some gems every week lol |
| 18:11.16 | ckknight | NivFreak: there we go |
| 18:11.25 | NivFreak | so they changed the spellid? |
| 18:11.28 | NivFreak | or it was just wrong |
| 18:11.31 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 18:11.42 | NivFreak | and why does pitbull care about bloodthirst? :) |
| 18:11.52 | Aiiane | have them drop power cores, which can power token dispensers in the instance, but each of the 3 token dispensers burns out after 2 uses :P |
| 18:11.55 | AckisWork | i vant to vuck vour vlood |
| 18:12.37 | Aiiane | that way you get a choice of what tokens you get, but have to have at least a little variety :P |
| 18:13.05 | NivFreak | I think it's blizzards way of stopping you from bringing 10 warlocks |
| 18:13.06 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 18:13.13 | ckknight | NivFreak: Aura filtering |
| 18:13.16 | NivFreak | ckknight: ah |
| 18:13.37 | NivFreak | so it actually changed? |
| 18:13.39 | Aiiane | speaking on which |
| 18:13.50 | Aiiane | ckknight, am I just missing it or is there no way to customize aura filtering |
| 18:14.00 | ckknight | you're missing it |
| 18:14.04 | Aiiane | k |
| 18:14.04 | ckknight | I made an option for it |
| 18:14.25 | Aiiane | havent checked recently i dont think, just checked when i initially started using pitbull |
| 18:14.36 | Aiiane | didnt see it, so just disabled it |
| 18:14.37 | SunTsu | sb: EU login servers do again for me |
| 18:14.39 | mykx | Aiiane: global settings - aura |
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| 18:15.43 | sb | yup SunTsu, same here :) |
| 18:16.58 | Aiiane | hmm mykx, that's only global though :/ so i guess i can't customize it per-frame |
| 18:17.06 | binder | oh noes better friends is broken |
| 18:17.38 | mykx | you can customize it by frame, just use your 2 eyes ftw |
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| 18:18.44 | Aiiane | um, i am mykx... i see friend options, and enemy options, but not player vs. target. vs focus |
| 18:19.18 | mykx | Frame - Other - Auras |
| 18:19.30 | Aiiane | doesn't have a filtering customization window |
| 18:19.34 | Aiiane | only the option to turn it on/off |
| 18:19.57 | Aiiane | i.e. there are some things i'd like to be filtered on one frame, but not on another |
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| 18:20.22 | charon | Silviu-: servers back up... ok you've probably noticed :) |
| 18:20.25 | mykx | you can filter things for target and not player etc.. I have it set up like that |
| 18:20.28 | Aiiane | but i dont want to totally disable filtering |
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| 18:20.41 | Trela | I must mention... |
| 18:20.43 | Trela | THE GAME. |
| 18:22.50 | Dashkal | Old news. I won it already. XKCD told me so |
| 18:23.26 | NivFreak | that is retarded btw |
| 18:23.28 | breser | XKCD also told you that you're the sideways man. |
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| 18:30.16 | AckisWork | fyi: "Basically it's showing people have tickets (which isn't protected for some reason) when they don't and they click it and BOOM make a ticket. Sort of a trojan horse." You can make tickets via the API again lol |
| 18:31.58 | Silviu- | charon yep ^^ |
| 18:33.23 | steev | damn it |
| 18:33.29 | steev | daily pvp on our server is arathi basin |
| 18:33.56 | steev | oh well, i need 50 badges from there for the welfare epix |
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| 18:35.32 | binder | funny question |
| 18:35.44 | binder | but anyone know what mod is making my raid/guild/friends tab blank? |
| 18:36.53 | steev | really hate ab in the 30-69 bracket |
| 18:37.02 | Aiiane | so would I |
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| 18:37.05 | Aiiane | if that bracket existed :P |
| 18:37.11 | steev | can never get a full group, except when the horde have already 5 capped |
| 18:37.24 | binder | ~it was better friends |
| 18:37.25 | purl | So we want to be stupid, right, was better friends ? Fine, pushups, right now. OK, side straddle hops, right now. OK, run in place, right now. I didn't say stop! |
| 18:37.25 | steev | Aiiane: 30-39, 40-49, 50-59, 60-69 |
| 18:37.32 | Aiiane | I know what you meant steino |
| 18:37.34 | Aiiane | *steev |
| 18:37.36 | steev | heh |
| 18:37.42 | Aiiane | fails at tabcomplete |
| 18:37.49 | steev | alliance are just horrible in this battlegroup |
| 18:37.57 | binder | BitchX? |
| 18:38.00 | binder | or mirc? |
| 18:38.05 | Aiiane | neither |
| 18:38.24 | steev | irssi ftw |
| 18:38.28 | Corey | alliance own my battlegroup |
| 18:38.36 | Aiiane | I actually do use irssi, but not atm |
| 18:39.30 | steev | i do love that i can kill warlock pets and it hurts them now |
| 18:39.36 | CIA-45 | controlfreak: 03Tekkub 07master * r2eb5417 10/: Fuck you and your submodules |
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| 18:40.07 | Aiiane | hmm, steev? howso |
| 18:41.09 | Zhinjio | ok, thats fucked up. |
| 18:41.16 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: is it possible to disable the standard tourguide frame-thingy when I'm using the LDB display? |
| 18:41.26 | Zhinjio | double-right-clicking water (to fish) breaks mouselook |
| 18:41.28 | Tekkub | not ATM |
| 18:41.32 | Stanzilla | kk |
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| 18:42.05 | steev | Aiiane: i dunno, some warlock in our guild was bitching about it |
| 18:42.05 | steev | when it gets killed or some shit |
| 18:42.05 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: mouselook? |
| 18:42.05 | Tekkub | I've rewritten the block into a LDB display embedded in TG, once it's done and tested (end of week?) there will be an option |
| 18:42.18 | Zhinjio | Arrowmaster: holding down right mouse button to look around (and fly, eg) |
| 18:42.23 | Zhinjio | it no longer functions |
| 18:42.24 | Arrowmaster | works for me |
| 18:42.26 | Zhinjio | until I reload. |
| 18:42.29 | Tekkub | the released version is still the old block that's kinda woven into the addon's code |
| 18:42.32 | Zhinjio | I'm checking now to see if its some addon |
| 18:42.32 | Arrowmaster | or do you mean in 2.4.3? |
| 18:42.36 | Aiiane | steev: no idea what they're talking about then |
| 18:42.50 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: what addon are you using for fishing? |
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| 18:42.58 | Zhinjio | ah, fishingbuddy is doing it |
| 18:43.06 | Zhinjio | how sad. |
| 18:43.07 | Arrowmaster | use fishermansfriend |
| 18:43.29 | Zhinjio | I have *so much* data from fishingbuddy. it would make me so sad to lose it. |
| 18:43.31 | Arrowmaster | since it actually hooks properly |
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| 18:43.52 | Zhinjio | but it appears I don't have a choice. |
| 18:44.12 | Aiiane | data? |
| 18:44.13 | Aiiane | on what? |
| 18:44.22 | Zhinjio | what fish come from where, at what levels, blah blahblah |
| 18:44.24 | AckisWork | hi Zhinjio |
| 18:44.28 | Zhinjio | Hey Ackis |
| 18:44.51 | Aiiane | oh... I just use things like http://www.elsanglin.com/ |
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| 18:45.41 | Zhinjio | oh, I know. I am just a data whore, and like having it all in game with me. |
| 18:46.23 | Zhinjio | its fools like me who use mods like Historian, and know how much falling damage I've ever taken. |
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| 18:47.12 | KriLL3 | I think there's pills for people like that |
| 18:47.54 | Zhinjio | yeah, they don't make them strong enough for me. |
| 18:47.57 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 18:47.59 | AckisWork | uses historian :D |
| 18:48.13 | Zhinjio | right, so for me and Ackis, then |
| 18:48.51 | AckisWork | if only ARL had a new fancy GUI so we could work on "The Collectinator" :P |
| 18:49.06 | Zhinjio | cries. |
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| 18:49.15 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: looking forward to it |
| 18:49.19 | Zhinjio | dude, petition to make days 48 hours long. |
| 18:49.57 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: Well, we're already close. A day has 24 hours and if that's not enough you still can use the night ;) |
| 18:50.14 | Zhinjio | I'm already doing that. |
| 18:50.50 | vithos | you can change a keybind out of combat without a hardware event right? |
| 18:51.36 | vithos | need to autoswitch tab targetting to the new player only one in arena/BG's |
| 18:51.38 | Zhinjio | fisherman'sfriend is on wau? |
| 18:52.00 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: I know you're busy, just bugging you :) |
| 18:55.43 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78497 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 18:55.43 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 18:55.43 | CIA-45 | - FIX: Further improvements to stop unnecessarily refreshing bars. |
| 18:58.25 | steev | Zhinjio: please don't - i work 12 hour shifts as it is... if there was that much time in a day... it would suck |
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| 19:00.56 | steev | Zhinjio: does historian collect the falling data and let you look at the different places you've fallen? like which zone you fall the most in? or how many times its killed you - like do you drop off the aldor tier the most and die, or the elevator in telrador |
| 19:01.30 | Zhinjio | not that I'm aware of, it just tracks how many times you've fallen and how much damage those falls did |
| 19:05.05 | Nechckn | I like Historian... such fun, bizarre info |
| 19:05.18 | Zhinjio | upo |
| 19:05.21 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 19:05.27 | Zhinjio | "most followed person" is another one. |
| 19:05.31 | Nechckn | I always have to laugh at the times jumped... |
| 19:05.33 | Zhinjio | hilarous |
| 19:05.47 | Nechckn | my NEs always seem to have numerous instances of that, for some reason =) |
| 19:06.04 | kaiden | something is seriously wrong with this latest patch |
| 19:06.09 | kaiden | when taurens pass my screen i crash |
| 19:06.10 | kaiden | heh |
| 19:06.24 | Nechckn | Cause they make the ground rumble? |
| 19:08.00 | kaiden | i dunno i just get crashes in taurenmale.m2 |
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| 19:08.34 | Nechckn | kaiden ok, that is very odd |
| 19:08.44 | Nechckn | have you tried refreshing your cache? |
| 19:08.49 | kaiden | just did |
| 19:08.50 | Nechckn | maybe corrupt image or something |
| 19:08.53 | kaiden | gonna see if it happens again |
| 19:09.01 | kaiden | well it's doing it on all of my computers |
| 19:09.03 | kaiden | that's why i find it odd |
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| 19:10.08 | KriLL3 | got the same drivers or gpu etc on all? |
| 19:10.18 | kaiden | nope :) |
| 19:10.30 | KriLL3 | same addons? |
| 19:10.33 | kaiden | main system has dual gtx 280's running the latest 200 series drivers |
| 19:10.35 | kaiden | nope |
| 19:10.41 | kaiden | second system has a minimal set of addons |
| 19:11.06 | KriLL3 | blame your local which, she's cursed you |
| 19:11.51 | Zhinjio | fishermansfriend will do for now |
| 19:12.01 | Zhinjio | it doesn't apply lures correctly. oh well |
| 19:14.20 | Gngsk | Tekkub, I'm sure you're busy but I was wondering if you've looked at corkfu at all since the patch. The version I'm using is getting blocked. Although I admit I haven't tried it alone. |
| 19:14.42 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/cork/tree/master |
| 19:14.50 | Tekkub | it's still a perpetual alpha |
| 19:15.01 | Tekkub | I'm not entirely sure where to go with it |
| 19:15.04 | Gngsk | K, I'll try that out. Yah I know. Thanks. |
| 19:15.05 | Nechckn | Well.. no one has apparently seen the tauren thing over in yonder uidev, either... |
| 19:15.13 | Nechckn | sorry, kaiden |
| 19:15.26 | Gngsk | aight, well, i've tried zomgbuffs for like an hour and a half and i just prefer the simplicity of cork |
| 19:15.57 | Nechckn | How about renaming the female tauren >> male? hehehhe |
| 19:17.01 | Tekkub | I've seen a tauren thing |
| 19:17.09 | Tekkub | and yea, thirteen inches is about right |
| 19:17.18 | Nechckn | lol... |
| 19:17.38 | CIA-45 | 03nirek * r78498 10FeedMachine/FeedMachine.lua: FeedMachine: fix runaway timers, finally.. maybe? |
| 19:18.00 | Nechckn | That Tekkub, such a kidder! |
| 19:18.01 | kaiden | tekkub, only seen? you poor thing, trying is where its at :P |
| 19:18.02 | Tekkub | Gngsk, current thought is to redesign the base display to allow clicking in combat again, and make all the "need trackers" into seperate plugins, like Fu plugins |
| 19:19.22 | NeoTron | so last night I tried making a raid and having oRA autoload |
| 19:19.34 | NeoTron | then I gave leader to someone else and gave it back.. loot threshold is still not changed |
| 19:19.44 | NeoTron | it's simply broken atm |
| 19:19.58 | NeoTron | dunno how it could work for some except if they have an older version of oRA2 though |
| 19:21.00 | kaiden | whoever said spaghetti wasn't a breakfast food doesn't know what they are talking about *num num* |
| 19:21.14 | FinalX | mmm spaghetti |
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| 19:22.20 | kaiden | fettucine noodles, regular spaghetti noodles, classico four cheese & spinach sauce, with velveeta added for good measure |
| 19:22.26 | kaiden | and yum yum meatballs |
| 19:22.26 | kaiden | :P |
| 19:23.20 | Gngsk | Tekkub, that sounds good I really missed the ability to click the frame when 2.0 went live. Here's the taint log with the master revision. http://gngsk.pastey.net/91385 |
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| 19:23.55 | Tekkub | Gngsk, I probably have localchanges to push :P |
| 19:24.00 | Gngsk | k |
| 19:24.06 | Gngsk | i'll try to keep an eye out |
| 19:27.18 | selckin | ah man, corrupted my windows partition :( |
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| 19:32.18 | NeoTron | this is pretty cool |
| 19:32.19 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?pet=tZzMszZzcZMsqRc |
| 19:35.32 | NeoRevan | is there a specific reason why recount would just randomly delete my damage? the rest of the raid is fine lol |
| 19:35.42 | Tekkub | "Zoning into an instance on a PvE realm will now drop your PvP flag" ... I just jizzed a little |
| 19:35.57 | Tekkub | people get so mean when you refuse to buff/heal their flagged asses |
| 19:36.31 | kaiden | Tekkub, lol, if i were a raider still i'd be excited by that :p never really saw it happen in 5 mans much |
| 19:36.58 | Tekkub | I always get the one retard that just came from a BG and for some reason needed to use /pvp |
| 19:38.01 | NeoRevan | "hand me a cigar, because I just came!" |
| 19:38.16 | mykx | wait you dont buff people because they like pvp? i'm confused |
| 19:38.56 | Tekkub | group buffs don't hit flagged players |
| 19:39.02 | Tekkub | buffing a flagged play, flags you |
| 19:39.19 | mykx | ahh ok heh pve servers |
| 19:39.36 | Tekkub | and it's only an issue when the playr manually flags |
| 19:39.54 | Tekkub | if they came from a BG it's almost always dropped before you start |
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| 19:41.50 | mykx | I haven't heard about that before, always played on pvp servers although with a pve focus |
| 19:43.16 | Diao | i never understood why people wouldn't want to buff someone with a pvp flag |
| 19:43.19 | Diao | what's the big deal if you're flagged or not |
| 19:44.52 | Corey | because if they cast their group buff on somebody not flagged you won't get it |
| 19:45.11 | NeoTron | Diao: pvp flaggins causes all sorts of issues |
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| 19:45.22 | kaiden | what in the fuck :( |
| 19:45.25 | Diao | issues.. |
| 19:45.27 | kaiden | now i just had a crash with humanfemale.m2 |
| 19:45.29 | NeoTron | not just buffs but auras (non-flagged auras dont' hit pvp flagged players) |
| 19:45.41 | Corey | true |
| 19:45.51 | Tekkub | the group needs to all be flagged or all not, it's that simple |
| 19:45.54 | NeoTron | and people tend to play on a PvE server because they don't want to pvp (at least not usually) |
| 19:46.20 | Diao | not like you'll pvp inside an instance anyway |
| 19:46.25 | Diao | so it doesn't matter if you're flagged! |
| 19:46.29 | Diao | once you're inside i mean |
| 19:46.34 | NeoTron | it's annoying |
| 19:46.43 | NeoTron | and at some point you tend to leave the instance |
| 19:46.56 | Diao | yeah, when the raid is over. |
| 19:47.13 | Diao | :p |
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| 19:47.35 | Corey | but why should everyone have to flag for you, why are you special |
| 19:48.11 | NeoTron | esp when it's so easy - just unflag if flagged and hop on a griffin and you're set |
| 19:49.25 | Tekkub | actually, from what I've seen I think if you're auto-flagged simply entering shatt wil clear it too |
| 19:53.00 | Dashkal | Does it actually clear it or does it suppress it? |
| 19:54.31 | CIA-45 | 03sano * r78499 10doSocial/: doSocial: Removed. Use StatBlock_Folks or picoGuild/Friends |
| 19:55.48 | Tekkub | from what I've seen, clear it... though it may have been just really good timing on his part... |
| 19:56.03 | Tekkub | duo partner got flagged somehow during the fire fest |
| 19:56.13 | Tekkub | we ran to town and it cleared when he went in shatt |
| 19:56.20 | Tekkub | we left and went leveling |
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| 20:12.35 | Gnarfoz | is there a reason why ClassTimer wouldn't work on Battle Shout while it works on Heroism? (both external buffs for me, I'm a rogue) |
| 20:13.25 | Stanzilla | wrong spellID |
| 20:14.17 | Hjalte | Anything a warlock (me) should know for Brutallus? We are starting in 5 minutes :) |
| 20:16.31 | binder | anyone notice their right mouse button not working for steering? |
| 20:16.45 | Zhinjio | binder: turn fishing buddy off |
| 20:16.57 | Matrix110 | Hjalte wait a bit in the start because else you will need to stop later :P |
| 20:17.00 | binder | lol really? |
| 20:17.04 | binder | like disable the mod? |
| 20:17.09 | Hjalte | Matrix110: With out tanks, yeah... |
| 20:17.12 | Hjalte | our* |
| 20:17.28 | Matrix110 | well on Brutallus aggro normally is np |
| 20:17.36 | Matrix110 | the tanks get MASSIVE dmg |
| 20:17.43 | selckin | chain burns its fun |
| 20:18.03 | Zhinjio | binder: fishing buddy currently has a bug ... if you have fishing gear equipped, and right click, your right mouse button will no longer mouse look at all until you reload. |
| 20:18.44 | binder | ~thanks zhin |
| 20:18.44 | purl | my pleasure, binder |
| 20:18.46 | binder | lol |
| 20:18.52 | binder | I gotta stop doing that |
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| 20:19.17 | binder | hmm time to find an ace alternative |
| 20:19.26 | Zhinjio | fishermansfriend |
| 20:19.49 | binder | pretty much the same function? |
| 20:19.59 | Zhinjio | minus the database of fish, yes |
| 20:20.12 | binder | bleh don't need the database |
| 20:20.35 | Aeyan | Yeah, thats why I was so happy when they released FishermansFriend, hehe |
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| 20:21.36 | Vulcanus | test |
| 20:21.44 | NeoTron | Matrix110: but warlocks do MASSIVE dmg and riding the threat margain is not unusual even with double druid tanks |
| 20:22.04 | NeoTron | Hjalte: so basically, watch your threat and yes waiting until the MT has 20k threat or so is a good idea (in general ofc) |
| 20:22.28 | Matrix110 | I know but if you wait in the start and use your shatter right before overaggroing you can pretty much go all out rest of the time |
| 20:23.13 | NeoTron | sure but you still need to pay attention |
| 20:23.32 | binder | zhin does fisherman friend have a fubar? |
| 20:23.46 | NeoTron | it's not as threat sensitive as twins and such ofc |
| 20:24.12 | Matrix110 | Twins is a major asspain threat wise |
| 20:28.03 | Zhinjio | binder: don't think so. don't need it, honestly |
| 20:28.10 | Gnarfoz | <Stanzilla> wrong spellID <-- spell id? ClassTimer uses Buff Names |
| 20:28.14 | Zhinjio | its ace3 configured (/fmf) |
| 20:32.31 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: nope :P |
| 20:32.38 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: yep? |
| 20:32.43 | Stanzilla | orly? |
| 20:32.44 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: ever added a custom buff to it? |
| 20:32.59 | Stanzilla | well for custom buffs it does |
| 20:33.01 | Gnarfoz | it takes buff names. if it converts internally, then that is mega fail because it's obviously prone to errors |
| 20:33.16 | Gnarfoz | yes, do you think it has battle shout and heroism pre-configured for rogues? :p |
| 20:33.17 | Stanzilla | but it has a database |
| 20:33.19 | Stanzilla | of spelliods |
| 20:33.34 | Stanzilla | sec, muru try |
| 20:33.40 | Gnarfoz | database is class-specific and for some reason doesn't include the most popular trinket procs ;) |
| 20:33.55 | Gnarfoz | (or even mongoose ~~ ^^) |
| 20:34.40 | Stanzilla | add them :P |
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| 20:36.06 | Gnarfoz | I could. I'd rather find out why it doesn't work for battle shout, tho |
| 20:38.06 | Stanzilla | hm it works with battle shout for me |
| 20:38.13 | Stanzilla | it's in the "player" bar |
| 20:39.44 | Gnarfoz | class? |
| 20:39.54 | Stanzilla | warrior |
| 20:40.11 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 20:40.16 | Gnarfoz | well, like I said |
| 20:40.23 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> is there a reason why ClassTimer wouldn't work on Battle Shout while it works on Heroism? (both external buffs for me, I'm a rogue) |
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| 20:41.10 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 20:41.11 | Stanzilla | dunno then |
| 20:41.43 | CIA-45 | 03Xinglon * r78500 10BuffBot/BuffBot.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 20:41.43 | CIA-45 | BuffBot: |
| 20:41.43 | CIA-45 | * Added a Slash Command interface. |
| 20:41.43 | CIA-45 | * Added a String tokenizer for the Slash Command interpreter. |
| 20:41.43 | CIA-45 | * Added a "inCombat" variable. |
| 20:41.44 | CIA-45 | * Added a "BuffBot_ButtonSize" variable. |
| 20:41.46 | CIA-45 | * Modularised resizing and positioning buttons. |
| 20:50.03 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that lets you hide UI elements? doesn't matter what addon I change the prefs of, my world map minimap button remains visible |
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| 20:50.39 | Diao | ååæåä½éº¼æ³¢å |
| 20:50.42 | Gngsk | Tekkub, strange it's working fine now. must've disabled some other addon that was truly causing the taint. |
| 20:50.43 | Diao | oops |
| 20:50.49 | Diao | chinchilla hides it for me with no problems |
| 20:51.25 | KriLL3 | I got Cinchilla and it doesn't hide it for me |
| 20:51.26 | Tekkub | Gngsk, I'm getting reports of taint in CF now also, I'm wondering if it's just a one-time oddity of the patch? |
| 20:51.31 | KriLL3 | it's unticked and everything |
| 20:51.35 | Tekkub | CF and Cork use the same general code |
| 20:51.45 | Killmore | anyone know the new HP of m'uru/entropius ? |
| 20:52.10 | Hjalte | Is Brutallus parrying again? |
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| 20:52.20 | Matrix110 | Entropius went down 500k they say |
| 20:52.22 | Gngsk | Tekkub, hmm, don't use CF, does it have a module for druids I could try it out |
| 20:52.23 | Matrix110 | *erm |
| 20:52.24 | Matrix110 | Muru |
| 20:52.32 | Diao | strange.. must be something conflicting |
| 20:52.58 | Tekkub | yes it has profiles for all classes that have a sustainable CC |
| 20:53.11 | Gngsk | aight, I'll give it a shot see if I get any taint |
| 20:54.02 | NeoTron | Matrix110: how much did he stard with? /me doesn't remember |
| 20:54.43 | NeoTron | Hjalte: he always parried.. it just doesn't reset the swing timer |
| 20:54.54 | Hjalte | NeoTron: Ah, fine. |
| 20:55.26 | NeoTron | when he can do 17k dmg in 1.5s without parrying parrying would be pretty devastating |
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| 20:57.57 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: are you using cartographer? |
| 20:58.03 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 20:58.04 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ulic |
| 20:58.07 | purl | ulic is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 17h 55m 42s, last said: 'maybe you got in test mode. I haven't arena'd since the new season started.'. |
| 20:58.16 | Arrowmaster | do you have Cartographer_Hotspot? |
| 20:58.32 | KriLL3 | turn it off? |
| 20:58.36 | CIA-45 | 03Sidoine * r78501 10Chinon/ (EcranOptions.lua FrameSoin.lua SoinBouton.lua): |
| 20:58.36 | CIA-45 | Chinon: |
| 20:58.36 | CIA-45 | - bug fixes when adding a new button |
| 20:58.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 20:58.40 | KriLL3 | ah, that worked |
| 20:58.41 | Gnarfoz | ulic: MgT Kael'thas module and TK Kael'thas modules still enable each other :( |
| 20:58.41 | KriLL3 | thx |
| 20:58.44 | Arrowmaster | since last i checked its broken anyway |
| 20:58.53 | KriLL3 | I didn't even know what it was |
| 20:59.13 | Zyuu | Hey all, check out the new Curse Client beta version. Download it at http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/51-curse-client-beta-setup-1-0-0-11 and please report all bugs to the following email: client@curse.com |
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| 20:59.30 | Vulcanus | for a second there I thought keylogger |
| 20:59.30 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 20:59.40 | Zyuu | bah |
| 21:00.03 | KriLL3 | I once tried the curse client, replaced most of my addons with discontinued older versions... |
| 21:00.05 | NeoTron | KEYLOGGER |
| 21:00.22 | Zyuu | This is a new version Krill3 |
| 21:00.24 | DARKGuy | jWU ftw. |
| 21:00.30 | KriLL3 | Zyuu: I don't care |
| 21:00.42 | KriLL3 | DARKGuy: ? |
| 21:00.54 | DARKGuy | jWoW Updater :p |
| 21:01.16 | KriLL3 | I'm with NeoTron, downloaded it on a virtual sandbox and it tripped AV |
| 21:01.39 | Zyuu | does it pull from our rss feeds? |
| 21:01.52 | Zyuu | Krill3, what? |
| 21:02.12 | Zyuu | What anti-virus do you run? |
| 21:02.18 | KriLL3 | AVG |
| 21:02.25 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r78502 10HealGraph/ (. HealGraph.lua HealGraph.toc): |
| 21:02.25 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: initial commit |
| 21:02.25 | CIA-45 | - rewrite of the HealGraph from IncomingHeals as standalone using LibHealComm |
| 21:02.42 | Kolie | the EXE is upxed. |
| 21:02.49 | Kolie | It might detect that its packed. |
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| 21:03.02 | Kolie | probably a heuristic scan. |
| 21:03.17 | Zyuu | I have my heuristic scan set at low with Kaspersky |
| 21:03.21 | Zyuu | or it would freak on everything |
| 21:03.55 | Zyuu | And yeah Krill3, it updated out of date addons from Curse, all that will change soon |
| 21:04.46 | KriLL3 | I just wish there was a way on curse to make fan updates into "proper" updates so you don't need to go out and find them manually, and then have them overwritten |
| 21:04.48 | Kolie | KriLL3: It only updates the addon you point it to update, if the curse.com project for that addon isnt updated, thats what you get. |
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| 21:05.14 | Kolie | KriLL3: if you manually install a fan update, and rerun your client, it will try to piece togeter the individual addons in it. |
| 21:05.56 | Hjalte | Omen seemed really weird on this Brutallus try. Anyone noticing problems? |
| 21:06.06 | KriLL3 | atm I run WAU for all my ace addons and trudge curse, wowui, etc for the rest |
| 21:06.33 | Kolie | The curse client supports all addons from wowace in its latest builds, and will even autoupdate just like WAU |
| 21:07.00 | KriLL3 | WAU has yet to trash my addons, I'll keep using it for now =P |
| 21:07.02 | Kolie | I ran the curseclient.exe ( not the installer ) on a virus scan on about 20 secanners, all clean. |
| 21:07.53 | charon | Hjalte: i've patched some things so that it should immediately sync threat after taunts, would that explain it? |
| 21:07.58 | charon | course, there's the chance that i broke something |
| 21:08.14 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r78503 10HealGraph/: |
| 21:08.14 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 21:08.14 | CIA-45 | - added externals |
| 21:08.23 | charon | then again, even before me patching, someone reported problems on brutallus |
| 21:10.08 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9253-0.1%20BETA.html < seen that? :P |
| 21:10.20 | Hjalte | charon: A warlock just took aggro at 107% of a warriors threat. |
| 21:10.47 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r78504 10HealGraph/: |
| 21:10.47 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 21:10.47 | CIA-45 | - fixed externals xD |
| 21:10.58 | charon | warrior threat overestimates aren't exactly new either |
| 21:11.00 | KriLL3 | I'm almost exalted with skyguard =D taken ages... no one is doing the 5 man quests needed for the Ogri'la stuff so I've just done the bombing, scout escort and killing mobs stuff... =P |
| 21:11.32 | KriLL3 | 10 rep per mob |
| 21:11.59 | charon | Hjalte: can you check combat logs for taunt resists? |
| 21:12.15 | NeoTron | Hjalte: htreat happens |
| 21:12.28 | NeoTron | Hjalte: specifically yes we've had that happen |
| 21:12.52 | NeoTron | Hjalte: however if random people that are not high on threat pull aggro (typically not top 4 or so) you might have a bugged Brutallus |
| 21:13.17 | NeoTron | he sometimes get into a state where he seems to randomly aggro people after a burn or so |
| 21:13.25 | NeoTron | and only way to fix it is to soft reset the instance |
| 21:13.30 | CIA-45 | 03shefki * r78505 10AuldLangSyne/FriendList/FriendList.lua: AuldLangSyne: Fix for Friends pane changes in 2.4.3. Includes pre 2.4.3 support code. |
| 21:13.43 | Gnarfoz | Brutallus is written in java. |
| 21:13.52 | Aiiane | ... /facepalm |
| 21:13.54 | KriLL3 | java is fail |
| 21:13.55 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 21:14.00 | Dashkal | By a total shit programmer then |
| 21:14.06 | Dashkal | is a java programmer |
| 21:14.12 | Hjalte | charon: Tanks say that neither had any taunt resists that try |
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| 21:14.28 | Aiiane | are you saying you're a shit programmer than Dashkal? /ducks |
| 21:14.29 | Aiiane | :P |
| 21:14.33 | Aiiane | *then |
| 21:14.37 | Dashkal | ~whaleslap Aiiane |
| 21:14.38 | purl | ACTION beats Aiiane upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:15.04 | charon | Hjalte: ok then it seems very unlikely that any of my changes caused the problem, we tested the taunt part but not resists |
| 21:15.06 | Aiiane | hawt. |
| 21:15.08 | Dashkal | No, but I've had to deal with quite a bit of shit code *sighs* |
| 21:15.22 | Dashkal | Having a GC is not free license to create and discard memory needlessly... |
| 21:15.29 | Dashkal | And people wondered why their code was so god damn slow... |
| 21:15.31 | Aiiane | heh... |
| 21:15.40 | NeoTron | it's safe to say Brutallus is either C++, Lua or both |
| 21:15.43 | NeoTron | ;-) |
| 21:15.50 | Dashkal | Or, cache the fucking loop limit if it doesn't change... |
| 21:16.12 | Gnarfoz | he could even be neither :O |
| 21:16.16 | Dashkal | anyway :p |
| 21:16.17 | NeoTron | while(something < else.staticResultVeryExpensiveCall()) ftw |
| 21:16.18 | Aiiane | oh yes, love that Dashkal |
| 21:16.24 | Gnarfoz | googling boss scripts is fun :D |
| 21:16.33 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: seriously doubt it |
| 21:16.38 | Dashkal | NeoTron: oh god so many many times I see that |
| 21:16.55 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: Blizzard uses C++ and Lua. I doubt they would use another language in addition except for tools and such |
| 21:17.01 | Dashkal | People seem to think it'll only evaluate once... |
| 21:17.21 | NeoTron | pretty sure in some languages that is true |
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| 21:17.25 | Gnarfoz | just saying, googling boss scripts is fun ;) |
| 21:17.25 | Aiiane | you also have to love the loops that operate on the same object every iteration |
| 21:17.32 | Aiiane | and insist on fetching that object's reference each time |
| 21:17.38 | Gnarfoz | results are mostly pastebins and stuff ;D |
| 21:17.50 | NeoTron | sometimes it's worth doing a bit extra cpu work for clearer code |
| 21:17.50 | Dashkal | NeoTron: It's absolutely true in some languages. So twit java n00b should learn to read the definition of while in java |
| 21:18.02 | Dashkal | Sometimes, but this isn't one of those cases |
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| 21:18.21 | Dashkal | int limit = expensiveLimitGetterFunction(); while (count < limit) { |
| 21:20.32 | NeoTron | sure |
| 21:20.45 | NeoTron | but simple foo.getObjecT() type stuff isn't exactly expensive |
| 21:20.55 | NeoTron | unless you do it millions of time |
| 21:21.28 | Aiiane | unless, say, you're working with a file or something else with an external bottlenkec |
| 21:21.30 | Aiiane | *neck |
| 21:21.42 | Aiiane | opening and closing a file every loop iteration = not fun |
| 21:22.45 | Hjalte | Tekkub: We need more great names like makerocketgonow |
| 21:23.04 | Dashkal | the thing is, it's rarely safe to stick something like that in the inner loop. Consider the whole point of polymorphism is the beheviour behind that method isn't always what you think it is |
| 21:23.37 | Tekkub | ain't it great? |
| 21:23.39 | NeoTron | Aiiane: well sure. I meant simple getter/setter type methods that, really, shouldn't even be methods |
| 21:23.47 | NeoTron | one thing C# does better imho |
| 21:24.18 | NeoTron | not that I know C# |
| 21:24.25 | NeoTron | I do Java/C++ at work |
| 21:24.28 | Aiiane | meh. there are quite a few times that people use getter/setters when they're really not necessary |
| 21:24.36 | Aiiane | just to stick to the pattern they know |
| 21:24.39 | Dashkal | People keep proposing simpler properties for java, but I doubt it'll get in |
| 21:24.59 | Dashkal | but then I just generate my simple getter/setters from the IDE |
| 21:25.17 | Aiiane | i.e. if your getter/setter does nothing but return the value of a variable, or assign it, with no validity checking or other processing |
| 21:25.23 | Aiiane | you might as well just use a public member |
| 21:25.27 | Dashkal | negative |
| 21:25.35 | Dashkal | You cannot change a public member's beheviour later |
| 21:25.36 | Dashkal | you're locked in |
| 21:26.02 | NeoTron | that, plus it doesn't work in the typical "bean" aspect that expects set/get method patterns |
| 21:26.05 | Aiiane | Eh. 'tis a matter of what kind of projects we're talking about here |
| 21:26.14 | NeoTron | Aiiane: real projects? ;-) |
| 21:26.15 | Aiiane | For anything that I'd intend on publishing, you're correct |
| 21:26.21 | Dashkal | If you're working on a scripting-level project, java probably isn't the correct language :p |
| 21:26.26 | Dashkal | use the right tool for the job :p |
| 21:26.26 | Aiiane | For personal small-scale stuff I could care less |
| 21:26.33 | NeoTron | beanshell is nice in that aspect |
| 21:26.35 | Aiiane | I was talking in general, Dashkal |
| 21:26.39 | Aiiane | not language-specific |
| 21:26.49 | NeoTron | it allows you to do object.property as long as you have setProperty and getProperty to match |
| 21:26.53 | Dashkal | Even for small projects, I stick to good programming practice |
| 21:26.59 | Aiiane | shrugs |
| 21:27.00 | Dashkal | I don't want to have to rewrite something to use it seriously |
| 21:27.34 | Dashkal | I forget if jython does that as well (easy property access). I think it does |
| 21:28.40 | Dashkal | One very very very oh thank you so much very nice thing about jython is it lets you hand function references to java methods that require interfaces that need just one method (phew). In short, function refs for callbacks instead of anonymous inner classes. |
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| 21:29.44 | NeoTron | the main problem with Jython is that it's python ;-) |
| 21:29.46 | NeoTron | eek |
| 21:29.59 | Dashkal | :p |
| 21:30.12 | Dashkal | Python isn't bad. The indentation thing is the only real problem I have with it. |
| 21:30.16 | NeoTron | limited knowledge but don't really like it. |
| 21:30.21 | NeoTron | and the indentation thing is pretty big |
| 21:30.41 | NeoTron | for a larger project PoV I don't like the fact that it is like lua - typo on a parameter name will complie just fine but not work |
| 21:31.18 | Dashkal | Well that complaint you cannot escape from in a dynamically typed language |
| 21:31.24 | Artmi | Dashkal,i love pythons indentatino |
| 21:31.32 | Artmi | the good thing about it, is that it forces you to actually use indentation |
| 21:31.33 | Aiiane | at least, not with a hack like Option Explicit |
| 21:31.37 | Dashkal | Considering you cannot tell until runtime what type that function is :p |
| 21:31.40 | Artmi | i can't tell you how many times, i've seen such ugly and unreadable C code |
| 21:31.46 | Artmi | with horrible, to no indentation |
| 21:32.01 | Aiiane | Tidy? :P |
| 21:32.14 | Dashkal | Artmi: I hate how indentation is so significant. Messes me up when working with anybody else's code since I have to make my editor match their settings or the code breaks |
| 21:32.28 | Artmi | Proper indentation, leads to a whole lot easier to read code, which results in you being able to understand it a whole lot faster |
| 21:32.34 | Dashkal | 6 space indentation with tab mixing? wtf? |
| 21:32.35 | Aiiane | ideally, you'd do indentation with tabs |
| 21:32.38 | Artmi | without having to look at it as if you were looking through a magnifying glass |
| 21:32.39 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that re-formulates the combat log? you instead of <my name> and less other rubbish? |
| 21:32.41 | Aiiane | and just with tabs |
| 21:32.45 | Dashkal | indents with spaces only |
| 21:32.55 | Dashkal | no tab-stop shit please |
| 21:32.57 | Aiiane | the question is, why Dashkal? :) |
| 21:33.12 | Dashkal | four space indentation, tabs only |
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| 21:33.16 | Dashkal | erm, spaces only |
| 21:33.22 | Aiiane | but why? |
| 21:33.37 | Aiiane | a good editor should allow you to just set tab widths as that of 4 spaces |
| 21:34.05 | SunTsu | grabs himself some Popcorn |
| 21:34.12 | Aiiane | and tabs correspond much more closely to the function of indentation |
| 21:34.26 | Dashkal | Heh, actually, I'll pass on this debate. I've been here before |
| 21:34.28 | Aiiane | offers SunTsu some butter |
| 21:34.41 | Dashkal | SunTsu: how long did the last one go on? One hour? Two? |
| 21:34.59 | Aiiane | I'm actually just honestly curious, not meaning to argue |
| 21:35.14 | SunTsu | Dashkal: I don't know, I tend to fall asleep during the debate ;) |
| 21:35.19 | Dashkal | My reasoning is that I do not want to have to play "guess the tab size" to make the code line up |
| 21:35.42 | Aiiane | if a file is all tabs, how would it not line up? I agree with you that mixed tabs/spaces is horrid |
| 21:35.43 | Dashkal | when I use spaces only, there's no question of the size. And the only cost is a larger source file |
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| 21:36.53 | NeoTron | let's stop the indentation discussion right now |
| 21:37.01 | NeoTron | it will go on forever and blood will flow |
| 21:37.05 | Dashkal | ^^^ |
| 21:37.10 | Aiiane | -_- |
| 21:37.16 | NeoTron | and configurable tab stops is dumb |
| 21:37.18 | NeoTron | ;-) |
| 21:37.23 | Dashkal | oh god, you went there.. |
| 21:37.23 | Odlaw | zomg, always use tabs on the odd lines, and spaces on the even lines, but every 10th line, you must use a space/tab combination |
| 21:37.25 | Aiiane | sighs |
| 21:37.25 | Dashkal | I was hiding from that |
| 21:37.27 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Is MakeRocketGoNow Quickie renamed? |
| 21:37.46 | Tekkub | and cleaned up |
| 21:37.50 | NeoTron | is done. |
| 21:38.01 | Odlaw | no wait.. even better.. every line that is a prime number must be spaces+tab comination |
| 21:38.18 | Tekkub | I wasn't planning on releasing Quickie cause I didn't want to deal with positioning and shit, now that's the LDB display's problem |
| 21:38.21 | NeoTron | luckily sane code formatting is the norm now, with the settings saved in the project file so it remains conssitent |
| 21:38.45 | Hjalte | Tekkub: So the bar sliding in from the side is gone? |
| 21:38.57 | Artmi | NeoTron, all people doesn't use project files, since they don't use any kind of IDE |
| 21:39.01 | Tekkub | you can still use Quickie if that's what you want |
| 21:39.08 | Tekkub | this anchors to the LDB button |
| 21:39.12 | Artmi | some people, like me, uses for example vim / emacs for writing c source code |
| 21:39.21 | Artmi | and Makefiles to compile it |
| 21:39.38 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Yeah, I have it loaded now. I see it as a SBC button. |
| 21:39.39 | NeoTron | Artmi: I didn't mention "all people" but the project I'm working on right now |
| 21:39.45 | Artmi | NeoTron,Okey. |
| 21:39.55 | NeoTron | so that is irrelevant. btw I has been a hardcore emacs user up utnil a few months ago |
| 21:40.15 | NeoTron | when reluctantly went to IDEA for java coding.. and it's such a huge productivity increase I'm frankly really surprised |
| 21:40.23 | NeoTron | well worth the cost and adjustment |
| 21:40.38 | Artmi | Mayby if you're programming java, but i've never been a big fan of java myself |
| 21:40.38 | NeoTron | it's kind of slow and it's not emacs, but it's still superior in so many ways |
| 21:40.52 | NeoTron | well yes. but I wish it worked for C++ too |
| 21:41.21 | NeoTron | code / method completion, finding the file a method is defined in etc makes working so much more fluid with much less "grepping" for stuff etc |
| 21:41.31 | NeoTron | granted these are rather large and convulated projects |
| 21:41.50 | SunTsu | NeoTron: vim does that all for me right now |
| 21:41.52 | Artmi | Well the standard libraries usually one doesn't need to find a function definition for normally |
| 21:41.55 | Artmi | since one have used it alot |
| 21:42.05 | NeoTron | it's still handy |
| 21:42.08 | Artmi | So you know all the parameters it takes, how to use it |
| 21:42.16 | Artmi | And if you don't, you usually have a reference book for it anyway |
| 21:42.18 | sb | ./cry giev arena servers back |
| 21:42.24 | NeoTron | foo.ta<tab> is faster than foo.targetMyFoobarGazonk |
| 21:42.24 | Artmi | I got one for every language i use, beside me on my bookshelf |
| 21:42.40 | NeoTron | and having a reference book/site is not exactly speedy |
| 21:42.50 | Artmi | Not if you're new to programming, no |
| 21:42.59 | Artmi | But when you've been programming in a language for some time, you become fluent with it |
| 21:43.03 | Artmi | and you rarely need to use the reference book |
| 21:43.16 | Artmi | And when you do, you know what to look for, and where. |
| 21:43.36 | NeoTron | again you compare it to pressing tab, it's a lot faster |
| 21:43.55 | NeoTron | "just need to look up" might just take 30s |
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| 21:43.59 | Artmi | Of course pressing tab is faster, but you dont need no fancy |
| 21:43.59 | NeoTron | but pressing tab takes 2 |
| 21:44.01 | Artmi | ide for that |
| 21:44.08 | Artmi | vim / emacs / scite to mention a few |
| 21:44.10 | Artmi | can handle it just fine |
| 21:44.26 | NeoTron | I haven't seen a viable solution for emacs that's remotely as useful (or perhaps more true, automatically set up) |
| 21:44.38 | Artmi | Why would it need to be automatically setup? |
| 21:44.44 | NeoTron | I know there is such things for emacs but I never got it working in a satisfactory manner |
| 21:44.46 | Artmi | You install emacs, like what, mayby ones a year if not even less? |
| 21:45.00 | Artmi | If you re-install your computer more often then that, somethings wrong anyway. |
| 21:45.03 | NeoTron | you need to like run etags on the code and update it manaully when the code changes |
| 21:45.14 | Artmi | Have a script do it for you |
| 21:45.29 | NeoTron | even so when set up I didn't find it useful |
| 21:45.37 | Artmi | Okey |
| 21:45.38 | NeoTron | not more than a simple grep |
| 21:45.44 | SunTsu | NeoTron: emacs and vim can run commands on write |
| 21:46.17 | Artmi | SunTsu, aye, they can do alot more then some people give em credit for |
| 21:46.21 | SunTsu | At least I know for sure with vim. Well, emacs, it usually can do anything ;) |
| 21:46.36 | Artmi | emacs is one of the best editors i've ever met, if you know elisp, you'll have no problem making it do whatever you want |
| 21:46.50 | NeoTron | obviously you can do anything you want with emacs |
| 21:46.55 | NeoTron | I've used it for 12 years |
| 21:47.09 | NeoTron | and done some coding (some of it publicly available like a minor patch I made to Gnus way back when) |
| 21:47.42 | NeoTron | it was NOT easy for me to even consider an IDE - the thing that made me swap was in fact the debugging environment |
| 21:47.53 | SunTsu | Artmi: I don't like it personally, I am a vi(m) type of guy. It works exaktly how I ever wnated an editor to work |
| 21:48.03 | Artmi | SunTsu, we all got our favorites |
| 21:48.10 | Artmi | i use them both when under linux mainly |
| 21:48.13 | NeoTron | I was as surprised at how much it helped java programming as anyway |
| 21:48.17 | Artmi | emacs i even use under windows |
| 21:48.25 | NeoTron | I think though that the most powerful thing is the refactoring tools |
| 21:48.29 | SunTsu | Artmi: Sure, it all comes down to preferences |
| 21:48.33 | NeoTron | like changing the name of a class and/or methods etc |
| 21:52.43 | sb | *cry* my guild sucks :( |
| 21:52.50 | sb | people are too stupid for twins |
| 21:55.13 | vithos | make them turn on flash'n'shake in bigwigs |
| 21:55.19 | Aiiane | seriously |
| 21:55.45 | Aiiane | I pretty much became a nazi about that for a week or two, and it helped a ton :P |
| 21:55.50 | Aiiane | (not that fight but others) |
| 21:56.14 | Aiiane | ~wowprogramming |
| 21:56.14 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
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| 22:00.20 | NeoTron | sb: go boom? |
| 22:00.32 | sb | NeoTron: mh? :) |
| 22:00.42 | NeoTron | more like "too stupid for twins" |
| 22:00.48 | NeoTron | figured people made raid go boom |
| 22:00.52 | sb | well no |
| 22:01.04 | NeoTron | what else is there to be stupid about? |
| 22:01.39 | sb | healers letting people die |
| 22:01.47 | sb | dead tanks (pally healers sleeping) |
| 22:02.01 | sb | holy priests with 1k HPS ((same as shadowpriests :/) |
| 22:02.25 | NeoTron | so it's not really stupid |
| 22:02.30 | vithos | how many healers are you using? |
| 22:02.30 | NeoTron | what does your healer setup look like? |
| 22:02.35 | sb | 11 :/ |
| 22:02.43 | NeoTron | how many CoH/shamans? |
| 22:02.48 | sb | 4 shammys, 1 coh |
| 22:02.58 | NeoTron | so should be pretty ezmode |
| 22:02.59 | sb | raid healing isnt the problem :/ |
| 22:03.03 | NeoTron | although just one CoH is kind of low |
| 22:03.06 | sb | raid heal IS ezmode |
| 22:03.12 | sb | well its enough |
| 22:03.17 | sb | but tanks keep dying |
| 22:03.22 | NeoTron | going with 6 pallies/druids is kind of high though |
| 22:03.30 | NeoTron | umless you have spirit priests |
| 22:03.34 | sb | 1 spirit priest |
| 22:03.39 | sb | 2 druids, 3 pallys |
| 22:03.41 | Gngsk | Tekkub, yup first time i tried /click ControlFreakFrame got blocked, after that no issue. come to think of it first time i tried to turn in a quest after coming into freshly patched I got some error from vendorbait too but that might not be related |
| 22:03.45 | NeoTron | what are the tanks? |
| 22:03.51 | sb | 1 pally on warlock tank (perfect) 2 pallys on other tank |
| 22:03.53 | sb | tanks |
| 22:03.56 | sb | druid/warri |
| 22:04.01 | NeoTron | basically MT healing => 1 paladin, 1 chain heal off the tank + lifeblooms |
| 22:04.12 | NeoTron | is what we do |
| 22:04.23 | NeoTron | 1 pally plus perhaps some hots on myself |
| 22:04.59 | sb | well the main problem is MT heal |
| 22:05.20 | sb | SR gimped pallys dont bring enough HPS :/ |
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| 22:08.55 | Zyndrome | "g Tempora: all spawned at alliance starting point no spirit rezzers are up" |
| 22:09.07 | Zyndrome | sounds like a fun AV , it bugged and everyone spawned at ally tunnel :P |
| 22:09.15 | Zyndrome | including horde |
| 22:10.41 | Zyndrome | lolz, no one could ress either |
| 22:10.55 | NeoTron | sb: ... SR? |
| 22:10.58 | NeoTron | wut? |
| 22:11.01 | sb | shadow resistance |
| 22:11.03 | Hjalte | If a rogue uses expose armor after the five sunders are up, will it make any difference to the tanks threat? |
| 22:11.04 | sb | gear |
| 22:11.07 | NeoTron | then don't wear it |
| 22:11.16 | NeoTron | resistance gear is entirely unnecessary |
| 22:11.26 | sb | uhm but those adds hitting with 2k? |
| 22:11.34 | NeoTron | heal it |
| 22:11.34 | sb | shadow images |
| 22:11.39 | NeoTron | that's what the raid healing is for |
| 22:11.51 | NeoTron | and positioning should minimize the amount of dmg they do to healers |
| 22:11.52 | sb | mh okay, i think that depends on setup |
| 22:11.53 | sb | positioning |
| 22:12.04 | sb | we do that bosskillers positioning |
| 22:12.10 | sb | perhaps there is something better :/ |
| 22:12.23 | NeoTron | we do reverse, one-camp-on-ledge method |
| 22:12.26 | sb | http://www.bosskillers.com/pix/bbguild/feature/eredar-twins-positions-phase-1.jpg |
| 22:12.29 | sb | that one |
| 22:12.40 | NeoTron | ah no |
| 22:12.44 | sb | so 1-4 needs SR |
| 22:12.44 | NeoTron | we use the "reverse' method |
| 22:12.53 | sb | reverse is harder, isnt it? |
| 22:13.18 | vithos | easier imo |
| 22:13.23 | NeoTron | it's easier |
| 22:13.37 | NeoTron | maybe a bit more raid healnig but not hard with 4 resto shammies and one CoH |
| 22:13.50 | NeoTron | but phase 2 is so easy it's almost funny |
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| 22:14.06 | NeoTron | 'normal' looks a lot more complex though |
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| 22:15.05 | NeoTron | even just avoiding conflag on healers is worth a lot |
| 22:15.18 | NeoTron | since a single healer out of place is much more likely to cause issue than some random dpser |
| 22:18.18 | sb | mhh |
| 22:18.18 | sb | okay |
| 22:18.29 | sb | going to try next ID |
| 22:18.41 | sb | bosskillers positioning? or is there something else? |
| 22:18.44 | sb | (better?) |
| 22:18.58 | Diao | Hjalte if it's a warrior tank never use EA |
| 22:19.02 | Diao | it will kill his threat completely |
| 22:19.37 | Aiiane | im guessing EA doesnt place nicely with devastate? |
| 22:19.42 | Diao | yep |
| 22:19.42 | sb | NeoTron: so no shadow resistance needed in reverse? |
| 22:19.47 | Diao | it's considered 0 sunders |
| 22:19.48 | Diao | if ea is on there |
| 22:19.52 | Diao | so devastate will do less threat/dmg |
| 22:19.57 | Aiiane | nods |
| 22:21.18 | NeoTron | sb: correct |
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| 22:22.16 | NeoTron | http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4280/end2ft7.jpg is a good summary |
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| 22:22.42 | kaiden | This Midomi app that's out for the iPhone 2.0 firmware is f'in wicked |
| 22:22.53 | Killmore | anyone know the new HP of m'uru/entropius ? |
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| 22:23.27 | NeoTron | http://files.filefront.com/TwinsReversewmv/;10114446;/fileinfo.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeSXUJGo5N8 |
| 22:23.29 | sb | kaiden: midomi sucks |
| 22:23.39 | sb | kaiden: get Shazam |
| 22:23.51 | sb | its way better :) |
| 22:24.20 | NeoTron | those two videos might help you |
| 22:25.07 | kaiden | sb, what's the difference? |
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| 22:25.40 | sedai| | haris pilton has new jewelry and bags! |
| 22:25.51 | sb | kaiden: shazam got almost every song right :o even with some background noise |
| 22:26.03 | kaiden | i haven't had any problems with midomi yet |
| 22:26.11 | sb | and i have some trouble with midomi (service unavailable and stuff) |
| 22:26.16 | kaiden | shazam however seems to crash everytime i attempt to load it :P |
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| 22:26.22 | sb | huh :o |
| 22:27.34 | kaiden | i notice sometimes after installing apps i have to power the phone off |
| 22:27.39 | kaiden | and back on to get them to be able to start |
| 22:27.44 | kaiden | had to do that with Where as well |
| 22:27.55 | sb | strange, never happened here |
| 22:27.58 | Aiiane | wait, i thought it was an apple phone, not windows :P |
| 22:28.19 | sb | but itunes is dangerous :/ |
| 22:28.44 | sb | clicking around in appstore.. "oops, bought another $2 app by accidently clicking :/" |
| 22:28.55 | kaiden | i bought 2 of the 3g's and have seen that happen alot |
| 22:29.03 | kaiden | have to turn them both off and back on after some app installs |
| 22:29.15 | kaiden | i think the apps are currently ludicrously priced |
| 22:29.16 | sb | i still have the old one |
| 22:29.32 | sb | they need some confirmation dialog |
| 22:29.33 | kaiden | i stood in line for 6 hours.. iw asn't leaving without at least 2 of the 16gb's |
| 22:29.37 | kaiden | so i got a black and a white one :P |
| 22:29.45 | sb | its too easy to waste money by clicking around :/ |
| 22:30.11 | kaiden | i like the options midomi has, ie the ability to just say the name of a song or part of the lyrics |
| 22:30.15 | kaiden | or even hum part of it |
| 22:31.08 | kaiden | there are random problems with 3g imo.. another issue i'm seeing.. holding both phones feet apart the gps system will geotag me miles apart |
| 22:31.22 | kaiden | and when i'm at work my geotagging says i'm in littleton colorado... when i'm in bellevue washington |
| 22:31.23 | kaiden | lol |
| 22:31.44 | Arrowmaster | blame gps |
| 22:32.05 | kaiden | i think it's probably the 2.x firmware not the gps |
| 22:32.10 | Arrowmaster | the system isnt accurate unless you have a us military gps device |
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| 22:32.46 | kaiden | yes but 3000 miles difference |
| 22:32.47 | Arrowmaster | although miles does seem a bit too inaccurate |
| 22:32.52 | kaiden | i somehow dont think it's the chip that caused that |
| 22:32.52 | kaiden | :P |
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| 22:32.55 | CIA-45 | Skinner: Bugfix for StatusBar texture update function |
| 22:32.55 | CIA-45 | - TipTac skin changed to fix Tooltip issue when using it |
| 22:32.55 | CIA-45 | - Moved the following skins into the ObsoleteSkins folder: |
| 22:32.55 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.56 | CIA-45 | - Updated the following skins as part of the ongoing memory optimisation process: |
| 22:33.00 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.41 | Dashkal | What's the CD on spellsteal? |
| 22:35.01 | Aiiane | there's a CD on it? |
| 22:35.09 | Aiiane | afaik it just cost a ton of mana |
| 22:35.23 | Diao | no cd |
| 22:35.26 | Diao | costs about 600-700 mana |
| 22:35.37 | Dashkal | hmm... |
| 22:35.44 | Dashkal | Why did I think it had one... |
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| 22:40.55 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: accuracy is kind of a relative term ;> ~15m accuracy for civilian gps is fine and shouldn't lead to an app confusing towns :D |
| 22:42.16 | Gnarfoz | also, is the GUID of a mob available by mousing over it, somehow? |
| 22:42.24 | Gnarfoz | like... UnitGUID("mouseover")? |
| 22:42.38 | Diao | should be |
| 22:42.48 | Diao | since you can track buffs/debuffs on mouseover as well as target/focus |
| 22:43.51 | ckknight | yea, Gnarfoz |
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| 22:44.55 | Gnarfoz | k... because I'd like to stop BigWigs from enabling both the LittleWigs module and the BigWigs module for Kael'thas each time you encounter either one |
| 22:49.05 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: tonumber(string.sub(UnitGUID("mouseover"), 6, 12), 16) |
| 22:49.57 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: yeah, it's just that that functionality is inside BigWigs proper, which uses just names to determine if a boss module should be activated |
| 22:50.36 | Gnarfoz | it has GUIDs most or all of the boss modules, but those are just used for death detection by CLEU |
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| 22:52.01 | aedaemoen | why in the world does *every* single update seem to break 90% of all the mods out there, aced mods included? |
| 22:52.17 | Diao | ? |
| 22:52.22 | Aiiane | most of my mods arent broken o.0 |
| 22:52.23 | Diao | patch, or update? |
| 22:52.31 | Diao | most of my addons were fine after patch |
| 22:52.35 | Diao | granted, i did update some using WAU |
| 22:54.12 | ckknight | aedaemoen: why would "aced" mods be free from update breakages? |
| 22:54.49 | kaiden | ckknight, becaused aced mods are secret sauced... duh |
| 22:55.00 | ckknight | ah, yes, the sauce |
| 22:55.07 | aedaemoen | ckknight, why shouldnt updates be free from it. The only reason that things should break that regularly is if they are rewriting the entire framework in the first place |
| 22:55.08 | kaiden | :p |
| 22:55.26 | aedaemoen | rather, mods be free from breaking |
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| 22:55.40 | aedaemoen | to have them break all the time with updates/patches depending on the mod is rather silly |
| 22:56.12 | Arrowmaster | not much broke this patch |
| 22:56.13 | Aiiane | the thing is |
| 22:56.21 | Aiiane | Ace isn't a complete wrapper for the WoW API |
| 22:56.26 | ckknight | aedaemoen: the point I was trying to make is why are "aced" addons so different from other addons that they shouldn't break with everything else? |
| 22:56.39 | Aiiane | so it's not like Ace can be updated to totally make all WoW API changes transparent |
| 22:56.46 | Arrowmaster | i can only think of 1 think that truely broke and its not an ace mod |
| 22:56.53 | aedaemoen | ckknight, because usually mod devs that use the ace2 framework take more time and care in their plugins :-D |
| 22:56.59 | Arrowmaster | lies |
| 22:57.02 | Arrowmaster | they do not |
| 22:57.07 | kaiden | Aiiane, well dammit.. that's how it should be!!! |
| 22:57.08 | Aiiane | nah.... |
| 22:57.17 | Aiiane | it's more just that the ones that do take time, often use the ace framework |
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| 22:57.24 | kaiden | the entire api should be aced.. |
| 22:57.27 | Aiiane | the causation link is backwards :P |
| 22:57.35 | aedaemoen | Aiiane, true, but wow shouldnt really be changing their api every single patch in the first place |
| 22:57.46 | kaiden | and it should be updated at least 3 weeks in advanced with an automated system that will drop the changes in the instant the patch number changes |
| 22:57.49 | Arrowmaster | they are free to do whatever they want |
| 22:57.54 | Artmi | aedaemoen, which means it is blizzards fault, not the addon writers |
| 22:58.03 | Artmi | add-ons writers can't forsee possible ch anges blizzard will make |
| 22:58.06 | Arrowmaster | and there was only 1 api change that i know of and it only effected questhelper afaik |
| 22:58.11 | Artmi | they don't really communicate on upcoming api changes |
| 22:58.16 | aedaemoen | Arrowmaster, bingo :-D |
| 22:58.17 | aedaemoen | lol |
| 22:58.23 | aedaemoen | and i am pretty sure qm was aced? |
| 22:58.26 | aedaemoen | ack, qh |
| 22:58.27 | Arrowmaster | umm no |
| 22:58.30 | ckknight | it's not. |
| 22:58.33 | Aiiane | what does that have to do with anything anyways? |
| 22:58.40 | Aiiane | even if it were |
| 22:58.44 | ckknight | also, there are very competent non-ace authors |
| 22:58.47 | Arrowmaster | its not, never has been, and has never had anything to do with wowace |
| 22:58.50 | ckknight | and addons that are non-ace that are coded very well |
| 22:59.01 | ckknight | and sucky addons that are under the wowace umbrella |
| 22:59.12 | aedaemoen | ckknight, name 3 from each :-D, lol |
| 22:59.15 | Arrowmaster | tons of shitty addons on wowace |
| 22:59.15 | kaiden | tons! take pitbull for example *hides* |
| 22:59.22 | Aiiane | lol kaiden |
| 22:59.23 | aedaemoen | lol kaiden |
| 22:59.31 | Artmi | haha pitbull rocks, one of the better unit frames :) |
| 22:59.36 | kaiden | ck knows i lurv him ;) |
| 22:59.41 | Aiiane | DBM, for example though |
| 22:59.42 | Diao | pitbull isn't ace anymore anyway! |
| 22:59.48 | aedaemoen | its not? |
| 22:59.52 | Artmi | rock |
| 22:59.53 | kaiden | diao, rock,ace... same thing :p |
| 22:59.56 | Diao | lol |
| 23:00.00 | Diao | gello's addons are always great |
| 23:00.02 | ckknight | aedaemoen: hehe, I wrote my own framework after Ace2 |
| 23:00.02 | Diao | same with tekkub |
| 23:00.08 | aedaemoen | lol |
| 23:00.10 | ckknight | aedaemoen: non-ace, competent: Cartographer3, QuestHelper, TomTom |
| 23:00.14 | Diao | and i use a ton of shadowed's addons |
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| 23:00.18 | Diao | none of them are ace |
| 23:00.26 | Diao | well shadowed uses ace3 for some now |
| 23:00.40 | aedaemoen | what is tomtom, ive heard people throwing that one around but havent looked it up yet |
| 23:00.43 | kaiden | ckknight, i disagree with QuestHelper til he fixes it |
| 23:00.44 | kaiden | :( |
| 23:00.53 | aedaemoen | kaiden, yeah :( |
| 23:00.54 | Artmi | isn't tomtom the one helping with coordinates for quests or something? |
| 23:01.12 | Diao | yeah it allows you to use waypoints |
| 23:01.14 | Arrowmaster | aedaemoen: shitty ace addons: anything written by hshh, alar, LordFarlander, or ackis |
| 23:01.17 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78512 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: Changed to 2.4.3 dispel events, total guess no idea if it works. :) |
| 23:01.24 | Diao | which is kinda built into cart3? |
| 23:01.30 | ckknight | kaiden: he's fixing it tonight |
| 23:01.36 | kaiden | ckk, i know :) |
| 23:01.38 | Funkeh` | some dude that raids please test that |
| 23:01.40 | aedaemoen | Arrowmaster, .... that tells me a whole lot :p |
| 23:01.41 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: you can implement :VerifyEnable on the TK Kael boss module and check the zone there. |
| 23:01.44 | ckknight | I offered to fix it for him, actually |
| 23:01.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:01.46 | kaiden | it's only a temporary dislike :) |
| 23:01.55 | Funkeh` | I hope the args are the same |
| 23:01.58 | Funkeh` | but eh |
| 23:02.04 | Arrowmaster | aedaemoen: do you really want me to go looking through the svn to point out all the shitty addons? |
| 23:02.04 | kaiden | there's that quick way to get around it by disabling the SetParent(nil)'s on the fonts |
| 23:02.06 | Arrowmaster | theres tons |
| 23:02.07 | aedaemoen | ckknight, since you are one of the more chatty devs, any idea why bliz does go through so many api changes on such a regular basis? |
| 23:02.08 | Diao | i raid but not until thurs :( |
| 23:02.09 | kaiden | but that's not proper obviously |
| 23:02.34 | aedaemoen | the only conclusion i can come up with is that they are hoping by making changes it delays the onslaught of working automation scripts? |
| 23:02.35 | Aiiane | define "regular basis"? |
| 23:02.38 | Arrowmaster | aedaemoen: because its their api and they can change and improve it whenever they want |
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| 23:02.43 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: I'll look at what that does, then :> |
| 23:02.52 | ckknight | aedaemoen: I believe it involves something between donkey balls and the sucking thereof |
| 23:02.58 | aedaemoen | lol |
| 23:02.59 | sylvanaar | thier game UI is written using the API |
| 23:03.20 | sylvanaar | they matter, you dont |
| 23:03.26 | aedaemoen | lol |
| 23:03.46 | Funkeh` | I need a U.S. mage and priest/shaman who has a second for testing |
| 23:03.49 | aedaemoen | is too occupied to write addons currently :( |
| 23:03.54 | Arrowmaster | and i know of only 2 working automation scripts with the api last patch and neither are effected by the set parent change so your theory is void |
| 23:04.02 | Artmi | to bad i'm mage on EU :P |
| 23:04.18 | Aiiane | im not at home atm or i might be able to help you on the priest half Funkeh` :| |
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| 23:04.27 | Ellipsis | it's something along the lines of someone at blizz saying "hey the UI needs this function to do this instead of that now" and someone incompetent going "ok, I'll fix it!" |
| 23:04.47 | aedaemoen | Arrowmaster, i dont keep on top of the api crap anymore, i had thought about doing plugin dev, but ive watched too many addons be marked "out of date" after a single patch/update |
| 23:04.48 | Ellipsis | thus, API changes are made |
| 23:05.00 | ckknight | aedaemoen: basically, they've been changing the way things work every minor patch, cleaning things up and such. |
| 23:05.03 | sylvanaar | "working automation scripts" ? um, that was 1.x |
| 23:05.12 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: no theres a working one |
| 23:05.15 | aedaemoen | ckknight, nods, that would be the other possibility :) |
| 23:05.16 | Arrowmaster | or was |
| 23:05.21 | sylvanaar | that does what |
| 23:05.23 | Artmi | Ellipsis, that's abit ignorant to say, i mean, when they add / change some API functions, they are doing it for the better |
| 23:05.24 | Arrowmaster | it might have been fixed in 2.4.3 |
| 23:05.29 | kaiden | Ellipsis, we're gonna go grab some authentic mexican food, ya'll want any? |
| 23:05.31 | Aiiane | whatever that macro addon was? |
| 23:05.34 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: everything, it did everything |
| 23:05.35 | Aiiane | that used a fake secureframe |
| 23:05.38 | Artmi | either to get it more efficient, or to actually improve the game in other ways |
| 23:05.45 | aedaemoen | most of the addons still written completely in lua or are they actually using vbscript now? |
| 23:05.54 | ckknight | lua |
| 23:05.57 | ckknight | no vbscript |
| 23:05.59 | Artmi | Okey so, it means som changes for addon authors, but it isn't mostly a big deal, unless it's HUGE changes |
| 23:06.08 | Aiiane | where'd vbscript come from, aedaemoen? o.0 |
| 23:06.08 | ckknight | no huge changes |
| 23:06.13 | Arrowmaster | where the fuck did you get the idea that we could use vbscript? or would even want to? |
| 23:06.32 | sylvanaar | oh, fake secure frame...did they modify the taint stack, or was it a secureframe bug |
| 23:06.37 | aedaemoen | Aiiane, ive seen a couple of addons (dont ask me which ones, was just during browsing) that hadd vbs scripts |
| 23:06.45 | Funkeh` | 242 people and not a single person? gg |
| 23:06.50 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: it abused the ChatFrame editbox handler |
| 23:06.51 | Artmi | aedaemoen, probably somes cript kiddie |
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| 23:06.56 | sylvanaar | oh, haha |
| 23:06.58 | Artmi | aedaemoen, trying to mess with your computer |
| 23:07.00 | Arrowmaster | aedaemoen: no you didnt, you mostlikely saw keyloggers |
| 23:07.18 | sylvanaar | how did they get a reference to it? |
| 23:07.22 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: if you're curious (it's fixed in 2.4.3 anyway), I can send you it |
| 23:07.32 | Gnarfoz | *send it to you |
| 23:07.34 | aedaemoen | Arrowmaster, im very familiar with vbscripts, several of the ones i saw werent keyloggers, but rather counting systems but pointless, if its still all in lua just as easy to get back into coding it. |
| 23:07.54 | Aiiane | Funkeh`: give me ~25 mins and I'll be home |
| 23:08.04 | sylvanaar | @mindspring.com |
| 23:08.05 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: google for automacro |
| 23:08.11 | Funkeh` | Aiiane, k :) |
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| 23:08.18 | Diao | Funkeh` i have both a priest and shaman on blackrock horde |
| 23:08.25 | Artmi | Funkeh`, some users = idle, some users = eu :) |
| 23:08.26 | Diao | mage i can't help with though |
| 23:08.30 | Diao | and i was tabbed |
| 23:08.32 | Diao | :P |
| 23:08.36 | Artmi | out of 240~ people, i bet around 220 is idling |
| 23:08.46 | Funkeh` | Diao, I guess that's U? |
| 23:08.48 | Funkeh` | US |
| 23:08.51 | Diao | yes |
| 23:09.00 | Gnarfoz | the difference between those two numbers is covered by bots alone, Artmi :P |
| 23:09.01 | Funkeh` | can you /combatlog a dispel event |
| 23:09.07 | Diao | uh |
| 23:09.09 | Diao | ok |
| 23:09.12 | Diao | just go duel someone? |
| 23:09.12 | Artmi | Gnarfoz, :P |
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| 23:09.19 | Diao | or what |
| 23:09.21 | Funkeh` | or bg, not bothered |
| 23:09.23 | Diao | ok |
| 23:09.26 | Funkeh` | anything you can dispel |
| 23:09.30 | Diao | should i test on both priest and shaman |
| 23:09.32 | Diao | or just one? |
| 23:09.45 | Funkeh` | I don't think they will be different, but if it's not too much hastle |
| 23:09.48 | Diao | ok |
| 23:09.54 | Diao | i'll do it in a moment |
| 23:10.07 | Diao | oh my friend has a mage |
| 23:10.10 | Diao | i'll ask him to duel me |
| 23:10.13 | Diao | so we can test spellsteal as well |
| 23:10.49 | Funkeh` | brilliant |
| 23:10.59 | Diao | do you need /combatlog from both of us |
| 23:11.00 | Diao | or just one? |
| 23:11.02 | Funkeh` | you logging should be sufficient to capture both |
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| 23:11.04 | Diao | ok |
| 23:11.23 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: update wowwiki when your finished |
| 23:11.30 | Diao | should i just upload to pastey |
| 23:11.34 | Diao | or upload the actual log somewhere? |
| 23:11.35 | Funkeh` | if I have time |
| 23:11.43 | Funkeh` | the one line to pastey will be good :) |
| 23:11.47 | Diao | ok |
| 23:11.51 | Funkeh` | I just ened the one line / event |
| 23:11.54 | Funkeh` | dispell/steal |
| 23:12.03 | Diao | will do |
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| 23:12.19 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 23:12.28 | Funkeh` | locks get a summon button on friends frame? |
| 23:12.37 | Arrowmaster | we do? |
| 23:12.40 | Arrowmaster | i should login |
| 23:12.42 | Aiiane | news to me |
| 23:12.45 | Diao | o_O |
| 23:12.46 | Diao | never knew that |
| 23:12.51 | Funkeh` | just reading a diff |
| 23:12.58 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: am I grasping this right? I'll just have to create a VerifyEnable function that's part of the boss module object and have that return true if <whatever condition> (because the only instance of "VerifyEnable" in all of BigWigs's code base is the one line at core.lua:623 |
| 23:13.16 | Funkeh` | +function FriendsFrame_ClickSummonButton (self) |
| 23:13.26 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: give me a few ive got a better solution |
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| 23:13.46 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: that's for the "addict a friend to wow" programme |
| 23:13.52 | Aiiane | lol |
| 23:13.57 | Funkeh` | a wha? |
| 23:14.11 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: you'll be able (once they actually start that) to summon a friend you referred and grant him levels |
| 23:14.11 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: return true if the module should be enabled |
| 23:14.23 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:14.37 | Diao | lol |
| 23:14.39 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: ok :) (even though Arrowmaster seems to have something going on about this, too ^^) |
| 23:15.06 | Gnarfoz | man this is going to be a damn boring night... maintenance and all |
| 23:15.20 | Diao | Funkeh` do you need me to test counterspell too |
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| 23:15.25 | Diao | since apparently it now has an event in the combatlog |
| 23:15.32 | Kuosi | great |
| 23:15.32 | Diao | according to the patch notes |
| 23:15.35 | Kuosi | updated proximo |
| 23:15.37 | Funkeh` | Diao, yeah actually |
| 23:15.39 | Kuosi | and now its totally fucked up |
| 23:15.40 | Kuosi | =( |
| 23:15.43 | Diao | kk |
| 23:15.44 | Funkeh` | for council |
| 23:15.47 | Diao | uh |
| 23:15.49 | Diao | imp cs or just regular? |
| 23:15.57 | Funkeh` | doesn't matter |
| 23:16.03 | Diao | ok |
| 23:16.05 | Gnarfoz | Kuosi: how so? |
| 23:16.08 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: kel'thuzad has a zone check that I implemented before VerifyEnable, if you don't want to use that for some reason |
| 23:16.12 | Kuosi | cant target from it |
| 23:16.15 | vhaarr | in bigwigs_naxxramas |
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| 23:16.17 | Kuosi | nor can i right click set focus anymore |
| 23:16.19 | Gnarfoz | Kuosi: are you on EU or US? |
| 23:16.23 | Kuosi | eu |
| 23:16.26 | Kuosi | hum! |
| 23:16.27 | Gnarfoz | well... guess what. |
| 23:16.29 | Kuosi | you have a point :P |
| 23:16.30 | Kuosi | yep |
| 23:16.32 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:16.34 | Kuosi | facepalm |
| 23:16.35 | Kuosi | thanks :P |
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| 23:16.59 | Gnarfoz | but /targetenemyplayer is great. no more stupid hunter pets named like the hunter |
| 23:17.12 | Gnarfoz | or rather, they'll not bother proximo's targetting anymore |
| 23:17.18 | Kuosi | true |
| 23:17.22 | Gnarfoz | they'll still mess up oRA2 and Grid |
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| 23:17.55 | Gnarfoz | it's great when you get "Tank XYZ is dead" from oRA because a pet died >_> |
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| 23:18.03 | Aiiane | heh |
| 23:18.08 | Diao | lol |
| 23:18.17 | Shadowed | Have you actually gotten that to work Gnarfoz? |
| 23:18.18 | Diao | you have pets named after tanks? O_o |
| 23:18.21 | Gnarfoz | or when it's the actual tank because Grid reported his health jumping between his own health and the pet's health |
| 23:18.24 | Aiiane | well, if you use oRA2 to set maintanks instead of default blizz, maybe it could get swapped over to using GUIDs? |
| 23:18.25 | Shadowed | When I tested it after the servers came up, it wasn't working period. |
| 23:18.40 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: how does grid do that? |
| 23:18.42 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: I'm on EU, so no 2.4.3 for me for another 10 hours or so |
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| 23:18.50 | Arrowmaster | is it a blizzard bug or something? |
| 23:19.04 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I have absolutely no idea, and the hunter who did it suffered greatly at my hands :P |
| 23:19.20 | Diao | lol |
| 23:19.36 | Shadowed | Funkeh`, Do you know what the broken stuff even does? |
| 23:19.48 | Shadowed | I can't seem to get it to trigger from dispels |
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| 23:20.06 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: what exactly were you asking me btw? /targetenemyplayer? |
| 23:20.10 | Orionshock | lua> ("version %d"):format( date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") ) |
| 23:20.10 | Shadowed | yea |
| 23:20.10 | lua_bot | Orionshock: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'date' (a nil value) |
| 23:20.16 | Orionshock | ... |
| 23:20.25 | Funkeh` | Orionshock, os.date |
| 23:20.25 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: one of them is for normal melee attacks removing debuffs |
| 23:20.33 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 23:20.38 | Gnarfoz | swing |
| 23:20.39 | Orionshock | ya forgot about that Funkeh` |
| 23:20.40 | Shadowed | weird |
| 23:20.41 | Arrowmaster | thats what changelog says |
| 23:20.54 | Aiiane | like removing sap? |
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| 23:20.56 | Gnarfoz | because on 2.4.2, melee swings dispelling something don't show up at all in the combat log |
| 23:20.59 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: suggesting a BigWigs api change |
| 23:21.12 | Funkeh` | bigwigs api won't change |
| 23:21.14 | Gnarfoz | no, the ability/stuff that does the removing |
| 23:21.18 | Funkeh` | you can add, but not change |
| 23:21.27 | Diao | oh |
| 23:21.27 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: change mod.enabletrigger to allow numbers instead of just a string or a table of strings |
| 23:21.50 | Funkeh` | yeah, in the next version sure |
| 23:21.56 | Arrowmaster | no current change? |
| 23:22.00 | Orionshock | just trying to compare, when i send that to the bot, it gives what you'd expect " version 20080715232026" ; but in wow i get a "-" in front of the number? |
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| 23:22.09 | Gnarfoz | (wouldn't that be "adding"?) |
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| 23:22.55 | Gnarfoz | anyway, there's only two current cases where the name is not sufficiently accurate to determine if a module should be activated |
| 23:23.15 | Arrowmaster | kael and kalec |
| 23:23.18 | Gnarfoz | Kael'thas and Kel'thuzad |
| 23:23.21 | Gnarfoz | oh, 3 then |
| 23:23.27 | Arrowmaster | kel'thuzad? |
| 23:23.36 | Gnarfoz | he's running around in CoT1 |
| 23:23.40 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 23:23.50 | Arrowmaster | well it shouldnt enable there anyway |
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| 23:24.03 | Gnarfoz | because he's not hostile? |
| 23:24.20 | Gnarfoz | (no it doesn't check for that D:) |
| 23:24.35 | Arrowmaster | i swore it checked the zone |
| 23:24.51 | vhaarr | you can implement :VerifyEnable and a zone check already, there's no reason to change the API at this point |
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| 23:25.02 | Shadowed | still have to find out if someones managed to get /targetenemyplayer to work |
| 23:25.04 | Shadowed | stupid blizzard |
| 23:25.23 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: well proximo was updated to use it 'hours' ago |
| 23:25.29 | Shadowed | That doesn't mean he verified it :p |
| 23:25.38 | Arrowmaster | i know =D |
| 23:25.51 | Shadowed | wtb grayhoof in IRC |
| 23:25.58 | Gnarfoz | ~seen grayhoof |
| 23:26.01 | purl | Gnarfoz: i haven't seen 'grayhoof' |
| 23:26.05 | Shadowed | pretty sure he's never been in IRC |
| 23:26.09 | Gnarfoz | (I think he was in here... just once very long ago) |
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| 23:26.12 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:26.13 | Arrowmaster | he wasnt |
| 23:26.24 | Gnarfoz | then forums or whatever, when he converted his stuff to ace2 ^^ |
| 23:26.47 | Shadowed | thats slow, I want answers now! |
| 23:27.03 | Gnarfoz | log in, then |
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| 23:27.17 | Arrowmaster | somebody is saying that quest links dont work anymore, anybody verify? |
| 23:27.27 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: it's been verified |
| 23:27.29 | CIA-45 | 03Xinglon * r78513 10BuffBot/BuffBot.lua: |
| 23:27.29 | CIA-45 | BuffBot: |
| 23:27.29 | CIA-45 | * Modularised Hiding Buttons. |
| 23:27.29 | CIA-45 | * Modularised Showing Buttons. |
| 23:27.29 | CIA-45 | * Modularised Event registering. |
| 23:27.30 | CIA-45 | * Added Enable and Disable commands to prevent combat lag |
| 23:27.36 | Shadowed | whaaaa |
| 23:27.38 | Shadowed | what'd they change? |
| 23:27.49 | Arrowmaster | blizzard bug or addon interferance? |
| 23:27.51 | Shadowed | they don't work period it looks like now? |
| 23:28.03 | Cairenn | bug |
| 23:28.19 | Orionshock | question: .. why do i get a negative number in wow but the bot gives me what i expect? |
| 23:28.33 | Orionshock | lua> ("%d"):format( date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") ) |
| 23:28.33 | lua_bot | Orionshock: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'date' (a nil value) |
| 23:28.39 | Orionshock | lua> ("%d"):format( os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") ) |
| 23:28.39 | lua_bot | Orionshock: 20080715232839 |
| 23:28.53 | Cairenn | Shadowed, Arrowmaster: Blizz knows about it, it's a bug, they're working on it |
| 23:28.59 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 23:29.22 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: what are you attempting? |
| 23:29.49 | Orionshock | trying to format a dynamic number into a display string |
| 23:30.13 | Arrowmaster | your actually using date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") ingame? |
| 23:30.18 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster, are you sure he updated it to use /targetenemyplayer? |
| 23:30.22 | Shadowed | I don't see it in the files.wowace version |
| 23:30.53 | Arrowmaster | 10:04:40a +(CIA-20) Ace: grayhoof * r78478 Proximo/Proximo.lua: Proximo: Use new /targetenemyplayer command for all targeting. |
| 23:30.55 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: the zone checking stuff doesn't seem to work for the mouseover scanning, though, it seems? the TK Kael'thas mod has "mod.zonename", yet it's getting activated in MgT :\ |
| 23:31.06 | vhaarr | eh |
| 23:31.09 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: yes actualy, works nicely as a versioning method |
| 23:31.18 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 23:31.19 | vhaarr | .zonename has nothing to do with that |
| 23:31.41 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: look at the kel'thuzad module if you don't want to use :VerifyEnable for some reason |
| 23:31.44 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: how? its the date from when you call it |
| 23:31.49 | vhaarr | but I don't know why you wouldn't use that |
| 23:32.29 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, I think he means matching it.. |
| 23:32.38 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: I'm just looking for the simplest solution and was drawn to the .zonename stuff because it looked like its intended purpose could have been similar ;) |
| 23:32.45 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: was just an example for IRC and when testing methods. i use it to version publications in guild craft. |
| 23:33.00 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 23:33.06 | Orionshock | turns out wow is clipping the number... |
| 23:33.21 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: you don't have to look, I already gave it to you |
| 23:33.27 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: into what? |
| 23:33.33 | Shadowed | ah so he did Arrowmaster, missed it |
| 23:33.34 | Orionshock | i get "Version: -2147483648" |
| 23:34.06 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") > 2^31 |
| 23:34.07 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: attempt to compare number with string |
| 23:34.20 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber(os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S")) > 2^31 |
| 23:34.20 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 23:34.26 | Arrowmaster | gee i wonder why |
| 23:34.30 | Orionshock | that's prolly why... |
| 23:34.47 | Arrowmaster | blame blizzard |
| 23:34.53 | Orionshock | oh well concatenating it instead of formating works as intended. |
| 23:35.00 | Arrowmaster | they broke string.format it seems |
| 23:35.22 | Gnarfoz | yeah, L["KELTHUZADCHAMBERLOCALIZEDLOLHAX"] sounds like a really simple way of doing it, heh |
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| 23:36.39 | Arrowmaster | lua> ("%u"):format( os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") ) |
| 23:36.39 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 20080715233639 |
| 23:36.50 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: try %u in wow |
| 23:37.25 | Arrowmaster | or %f |
| 23:37.30 | Orionshock | "1743124921" |
| 23:37.42 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 23:38.03 | Orionshock | %f works, but adds 5 0's to the end |
| 23:38.08 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:38.25 | Arrowmaster | %e |
| 23:38.41 | Orionshock | ya no... |
| 23:38.45 | Diao | Funkeh` |
| 23:38.45 | Arrowmaster | %g |
| 23:38.46 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/91397 |
| 23:39.07 | Funkeh` | Diao, <3 |
| 23:39.16 | Diao | got as many different types of events as i could :P |
| 23:39.40 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: %g looks like it should work, what does it output? |
| 23:40.14 | Diao | oh whoops |
| 23:40.22 | Diao | i forgot to test counterspell without me casting anything/no imp cs |
| 23:40.23 | Orionshock | "2.00807e+013" |
| 23:40.24 | Diao | :( |
| 23:40.29 | Arrowmaster | damn |
| 23:40.56 | Aiiane | Orion, can you use %f and truncate it? |
| 23:41.09 | Arrowmaster | %u really gave you "1743124921"? |
| 23:41.30 | Arrowmaster | lua> ("%f"):format( os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") ) |
| 23:41.30 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 20080715234130.000000 |
| 23:43.19 | Funkeh` | Diao, seems all the args are the same, that's what I was hoping |
| 23:43.20 | Arrowmaster | lua> ("%.0f"):format( os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") ) |
| 23:43.21 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 20080715234320 |
| 23:43.23 | Funkeh` | thank you much :) |
| 23:43.25 | Arrowmaster | win |
| 23:43.27 | Diao | kk |
| 23:43.33 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: ^^ |
| 23:44.04 | Zyndrome | buh, questing in Hellfire and then tab out is bad for you ... all the red colors burn into your retina |
| 23:44.25 | Orionshock | ah, that's how %f works... <.< thanks Arrowmaster |
| 23:44.31 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/91398 now has the cs without imp cs event |
| 23:44.44 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") - 2^32 |
| 23:44.45 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 20076420267148 |
| 23:44.51 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") - 2^31 |
| 23:44.51 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 20078567750803 |
| 23:45.07 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber(os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S")) - 2^31 |
| 23:45.07 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 20078567750859 |
| 23:45.13 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 23:45.25 | Arrowmaster | seriously how the fuck did that give you "1743124921" |
| 23:46.26 | Orionshock | btw Arrowmaster, i have a question for you wrt FBP-3-Mod that you have in the branches... i was wondering that sence there is a uniform way to pull the option table for ace2 and rock, why not add a ace3options spec function for the various ace3 addon using it? |
| 23:46.34 | Aiiane | well if it's larger than 2^32 |
| 23:46.40 | Aiiane | and you're putting it in a 32-bit integer |
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| 23:46.48 | Aiiane | wouldn't that truncate off the bits above 32? |
| 23:47.01 | Arrowmaster | Aiiane: yeah im just not thinking properly right now |
| 23:47.06 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit |
| 23:47.07 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: table: 0x68d050 |
| 23:47.27 | Aiiane | 04[16:45] Aiiane: 01lua> 20076420267148 % (2^32) |
| 23:47.27 | Aiiane | 10[16:45] lua_bot: 07Aii01ane: 1743125644 |
| 23:47.43 | Diao | your irc is colored funny o_O |
| 23:47.44 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.band(tonumber(os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S")), 2^32) |
| 23:47.45 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0 |
| 23:47.48 | Aiiane | yeah i know, shoot me |
| 23:48.20 | Aiiane | and actually, its not colored that funny, at least for me... it just doesnt always play nice |
| 23:48.20 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 23:48.34 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.band(2^32+1) |
| 23:48.34 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1 |
| 23:48.46 | Arrowmaster | thats right lua_bot's bitlib is broken |
| 23:49.18 | Aiiane | mod 2^32 should truncate just fine :P |
| 23:49.23 | Arrowmaster | lua> bit.band(tonumber(os.date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S"))) |
| 23:49.24 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1743126124 |
| 23:49.32 | Arrowmaster | or that |
| 23:49.55 | Aiiane | so yeah...wow's %u just does a 32-bit int |
| 23:50.02 | Arrowmaster | and %d |
| 23:50.07 | Aiiane | mhm |
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| 23:51.45 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: so this should be safe to do? http://ace.pastey.net/91399 (will check once EU servers come up and I can test in MgT) |
| 23:53.18 | Aiiane | Grid/GridDynamicLayout is making me sad |
| 23:53.35 | Gnarfoz | DynamicLayout is cool, even though it's not working perfectly :| |
| 23:53.37 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: yes, that's fine |
| 23:53.54 | Aiiane | yeah... the problem is that when it adds another row, there's a noticable UI lag |
| 23:54.04 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: will test, and if it works, commit then, thanks for your input =) |
| 23:54.54 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: probably entails a lot of activity and is not DynamicLayout's fault? I dunno. also, for me, it *always* has one row more than it should, and that row stays empty at all times. wtf :> |
| 23:55.06 | Aiiane | I'm not blaming either addon specifically |
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| 23:55.51 | Aiiane | although, it's exacerbated by the fact that dynamiclayout doesn't handle having people in groups above what would normally be filled in with the # of people in the raid |
| 23:55.55 | Aiiane | er, doesnt handle well |
| 23:56.08 | Aiiane | i.e. if there are 25 people in the group, but some of them are in groups 6-8 |
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| 23:56.43 | Aiiane | seems to flip back and forth between showing the extra groups or not |
| 23:56.48 | Aiiane | which means a lot more little lags |
| 23:57.08 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I noticed that recently and had to switch back to static layouts for the time being |
| 23:57.22 | Gnarfoz | PUG raid leader was sorting groups by how many of each role we got so far ;) |
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| 23:57.45 | Aiiane | nods |
| 23:57.55 | Aiiane | We do similar sometimes |
| 23:58.01 | Aiiane | just to make it easier to track things while forming up |
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| 23:58.07 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 23:59.02 | Gnarfoz | I was trying to reposition grid because I specced healing for that pug raid (I only have it on 50% scale while tanking, etc), kind of didn't work with DynamicLayout changing it around every few seconds ^^ |
