00:04.43 | Tekkub | o/~ it's in your head, zombie! o/~ |
00:05.02 | Tekkub | like the old "angry chick" cranberries version better :) |
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00:09.20 | Gnarfoz | so, for grouped units, UNIT_HEALTH fires if a hunter FD's |
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00:24.04 | CIA-44 | 03kurax * r78158 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: Update zhCN locale |
00:26.44 | Wraithan | hmm need to add ftp access to my torrent watch folder so I can remotely start downloading stuff |
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00:28.11 | Dashkal | scp > ftp |
00:28.27 | Dashkal | the whole plaintext password thing... |
00:29.07 | Wraithan | ftp setup to chroot is secure enough |
00:29.28 | Gnarfoz | plaintext passwords are never secure enough, lol |
00:29.45 | JoshBorke | it's a risk vs rewards decision |
00:29.47 | Dashkal | Wraithan: and if someone breaks in and injects a torrent to something illegal? |
00:29.56 | Dashkal | which you then proceed to download? |
00:30.31 | Wraithan | well, lol at them they can't get what they just downloaded |
00:30.55 | Dashkal | that doesn't save you |
00:31.08 | Wraithan | ever been busted for illegal downlaods? |
00:31.10 | Wraithan | I haven't |
00:31.31 | Wraithan | not that I download a lot of illegal content, but I do download TV shows because I am not commonly there to watch them |
00:31.41 | Dashkal | There are things your IP could be caught downloading that get a hell of a lot more attention that bootleg SG1 episodes |
00:31.57 | Dashkal | anyway, highly unlikely. I'm just pointing out the vulnerability |
00:32.06 | Wraithan | yeah, it could happen |
00:32.25 | Wraithan | more likely thing to worry about is someone hitting me when I cross the road on my walk to the bus |
00:32.30 | Wraithan | should I not cross roads? |
00:32.35 | Dashkal | Depends what city :p |
00:32.38 | Wraithan | lol |
00:33.14 | Dashkal | But to give a more likely example. Someone hacks the ftp in order to download something nasty, only to later find out they can't get at the goods afterwords. |
00:33.46 | CIA-44 | 03broliant * r78159 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Added AceTimer-3.0 dependency. |
00:33.47 | Wraithan | ftp is secure enough for my needs, I rarely use it anywhere but from work, which is a wired line out, to a wired line to my house, granted man in the middle attacks can happen but are a lot more unlikely |
00:34.06 | Wraithan | if I was using wireless commonly or untrusted wired lan, then I can see a problem |
00:34.07 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78160 10Baldrick/Baldrick.lua: |
00:34.07 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
00:34.07 | CIA-44 | - Wasn't using GetQuestObjective right, apparently it was changed for 2.0 lol |
00:34.07 | CIA-44 | - Fixed PLATER_CONTROL_LOST to PLAYER_CONTROL_LOST |
00:34.09 | JoshBorke | i guess the question is more likely, why NOT use scp instead of FTP? |
00:34.20 | Wraithan | I already have FTP setup |
00:34.21 | Dashkal | if you don't use it except from work, I'd suggest IP filtering it as an extra precaution |
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00:34.43 | Dashkal | TCP sessions aren't all that easy to spoof sender IPs |
00:34.54 | Wraithan | y'all are paranoid |
00:35.06 | Dashkal | just had to clean up a compromised server |
00:35.15 | Wraithan | private? |
00:35.26 | Dashkal | Can't talk details :p |
00:35.30 | Dashkal | Wasn't mine |
00:35.44 | Wraithan | mine is a private low traffic server |
00:35.49 | JoshBorke | Wraithan: there's no reason to not be cautious |
00:35.59 | Dashkal | My ssh port gets hammered all the time. I just keep it patched |
00:36.09 | JoshBorke | i disabled password logins :-D |
00:36.39 | Dashkal | I've considered that, but a password is harder to steal from my head than a usb key from my person. |
00:36.39 | Wraithan | JoshBorke: when I can re-image my system in about 5 mins, my server getting compromised isn't such horrible thing |
00:36.48 | Dashkal | My passwords are pretty secure |
00:37.03 | JoshBorke | Dashkal: that's why you use a passphrase on your key :-D |
00:37.10 | Dashkal | true, and I do :p[ |
00:37.16 | selckin | plain text passwords are more secure then debian ssh keys. |
00:37.18 | selckin | discuss |
00:37.18 | Wraithan | i am used to secure passwords, I work where everything is under lock and key |
00:37.24 | Dashkal | selckin: were, not are |
00:37.24 | Wraithan | lmao |
00:37.26 | JoshBorke | selckin: false statement |
00:37.26 | Dashkal | patched |
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00:38.08 | JoshBorke | Wraithan: 5 minutes of setting up an ip filter for your work subnet < 5 minutes to re-image |
00:38.40 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: how do I enable threat logging again? can't find it >_> |
00:38.44 | Wraithan | JoshBorke: what if I need to access from a friends house, or something like that? |
00:38.50 | Xinhuan | i dn't remember either |
00:38.55 | Xinhuan | its some flag in the lua file |
00:39.01 | JoshBorke | ~lart Xinhuan |
00:39.01 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into Xinhuan's ear |
00:39.08 | JoshBorke | wb xin |
00:39.23 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: I have to edit it? |
00:39.35 | Xinhuan | i really don't remember ;p |
00:39.45 | Gnarfoz | durrr ;> |
00:40.49 | Wraithan | I understand what you guys are saying, I am just saying that even if someone does compromise my box, and manage to break free and get full access to my server, they basically only have access to a music server that sometimes torrents and is locked off from the rest of my boxes |
00:41.17 | Tekkub | and your porn |
00:41.21 | Tekkub | don't forget the porn |
00:41.30 | Wraithan | porn is on a different box |
00:41.35 | Wraithan | much more secure. |
00:41.36 | Wraithan | :D |
00:41.52 | Tekkub | then what's the issue? |
00:42.02 | Wraithan | That is what I am trying to say. |
00:42.09 | selckin | ppl trying to assert superiority |
00:42.25 | JoshBorke | i jumped in late and am just trying to promote best practices :-D |
00:42.31 | Wraithan | they are making fun of me for using FTP one one of my boxes |
00:42.32 | Tekkub | we all know I'm the biggest dick here, no need to try to assert anything |
00:42.50 | Wraithan | I'll agree, your a dick. |
00:42.55 | JoshBorke | i still don't see why someone would just ftp over scp unless they only have access to web browsers |
00:43.09 | Ellipsis | in summary: cake > pie. |
00:43.24 | selckin | ftp should die :\ broken protocol |
00:43.25 | JoshBorke | oh, and torrentbox = <3 |
00:44.02 | Tekkub | I'm considering one of these for my torrent box/playbak head: http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/07/08/acer-aspire-x1200-pc-is-cheap-tiny-and-could-be-your-next-htpc/ |
00:44.20 | Tekkub | since I have little hope the Myka will be out within the next... oh... YEAR |
00:44.52 | JoshBorke | hm, not torrentbox |
00:45.05 | Tekkub | way actually do away with my monster server if I get one of those |
00:45.21 | JoshBorke | torrentflux! |
00:45.26 | Tekkub | just drop the drives I already have in an external enclosure |
00:45.30 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: oh, antiarc added that, btw, thus your not remembering it ;) |
00:45.31 | Gnarfoz | - Add threat logging. Enable with LibStub("Threat-2.0").LogThreat = true. Note that this will be RAM intensive. |
00:46.43 | Gnarfoz | erm |
00:46.56 | Gnarfoz | also, brain hurts, why did I think you wrote Omen/Threat-2.0? |
00:46.57 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
00:47.03 | Ellipsis | ~fail Gnarfoz |
00:47.04 | purl | Gnarfoz, you Fail! |
00:47.23 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
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00:55.34 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: is it possible threat logging is... broken? |
00:56.45 | Gnarfoz | even though it's more likely I'm doing it wrong again^^ |
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00:59.48 | Gnarfoz | there is no global "ThreatLib" :( |
01:00.54 | Gnarfoz | works via LibStub, though, kk |
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01:12.45 | erikh | between firewall issues, the ease of which configuring other transfer systmes, and plaintext transfer using ftp these days is just silly |
01:13.39 | erikh | and just points a big finger at someone who is ignorant and/or too hard-headed to move with the technology |
01:15.38 | kenlyric | where did that come from? |
01:16.07 | kenlyric | I agree with you, but it seemed really random |
01:17.06 | kenlyric | i like the ones who are all "zomg, I have a password" so I reply "I know, here's your password" |
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01:32.56 | Wraithan | kenlyric: it came because they were making fun of me for using FTP still, on a box that if it is compromised I don't give a shit, and I can't be bothered to setup anything else on it because I have other things I'd rather be doing |
01:33.22 | Wraithan | like what I am doing right now, going out with a friend to a bar and having a good time, later all |
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01:44.58 | NeoTron_ | L80 Firelock build: http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?warlock=0505001522004135013520105000000000000000000000000000115003011350100000000000000 |
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01:46.12 | NeoTron_ | not entirely horrible, not much wasted stuff. just doesn't seme like taking "shadow dmg increases fire dmg" into account for a nuke build (demonic sacrifice makes mixing dmg schools non-viable) |
01:49.13 | selckin | oh great, top tier are all pvp |
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01:49.38 | Dashkal | more points for cross/tiers then? |
01:49.46 | NeoTron_ | top tiers aren't very useful |
01:49.53 | Dashkal | s/\//-/ |
01:49.59 | NeoTron_ | the chaos bolt would be higher dps (shorter cast and can't miss, or at least, be resisted) |
01:50.02 | Dashkal | damn |
01:50.06 | NeoTron_ | btu it's certanily not worth dropping demo sac for |
01:50.30 | NeoTron_ | 0/21/50 will still be a the main nuke build, and the main nuke build will be fire |
01:52.27 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78163 10Baldrick/Baldrick.lua: |
01:52.27 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
01:52.27 | CIA-44 | - Fixed checking GetQuestObjective returns |
01:52.27 | CIA-44 | - Fixed Know Your Ley Lines |
01:53.35 | NeoTron_ | a shadow build go do 8/21/42 or so |
01:53.54 | NeoTron_ | get instant corruption, some aff spell hit and some imp life tap |
01:54.46 | selckin | theory crafting is for the bored time betwean leveling ad waiting on the rest to finish leveling :p |
01:55.36 | NeoTron_ | or for when you sit at work and feel like a break :P |
01:55.52 | kenlyric | they entire tree in holy priest past circle of healing is mazing for pve |
01:55.53 | NeoTron_ | I will say that the talents aern't amazingly exciting but it does seem to be a godo argument to go fire dps |
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01:56.10 | kenlyric | like, there's no chance in hell of a healing/imp ds priest now |
01:56.18 | NeoTron_ | you're wrong |
01:56.30 | NeoTron_ | one high disc priest would rock |
01:56.33 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78165 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: Support the new suffix/value stuff |
01:56.34 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78164 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): .trunk: Broker Plugins: Support the new suffix/value stuff |
01:56.40 | kenlyric | that would be a disc priest |
01:56.44 | kenlyric | not a holy priest |
01:56.58 | NeoTron_ | Rapture, Grace, Pain Suppression, and PI makes for a nice combo |
01:57.10 | NeoTron_ | disc priests heal |
01:57.18 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, that should remove the whole double label thing |
01:57.21 | kenlyric | my point is I have to give up DS forever :/ |
01:57.25 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: <3 |
01:57.32 | kenlyric | and as a spirit whore that's very hard. |
01:57.34 | NeoTron_ | if you mean a 21/50/0 priest sure. No one should skip 51 pt holy if they have 50 pts already |
01:57.54 | NeoTron_ | but it's be insane not to have oen disc priest in the raid |
01:58.03 | kenlyric | yes, but for all the time in wow before black temple you could do just fine with 30/40 points in holy :) |
01:58.15 | NeoTron_ | maybe not 51 pt (depends on how good penance is I guess) |
01:58.26 | kenlyric | because the endtree holy talent is supposed to suck giant donkey balls |
01:58.47 | NeoTron_ | except ofc CoH is really good |
01:58.52 | kenlyric | I have like 56 points in holy I think. I the entire end of the tree |
01:58.55 | kenlyric | yes |
01:58.59 | kenlyric | "up until black temple" |
01:59.08 | NeoTron_ | ah missed that |
01:59.11 | kenlyric | then blizzard ruined it forever by putting something good there |
01:59.13 | NeoTron_ | I thought you said in black temple |
01:59.17 | NeoTron_ | you know |
01:59.24 | NeoTron_ | I don't feel sorry for you for having a good talent |
01:59.25 | NeoTron_ | really |
01:59.34 | kenlyric | and still I could hold off |
01:59.52 | kenlyric | I just want the motherfuckers to remove DS from the tree and giveitme! |
01:59.58 | NeoTron_ | locks will always be locked into 21 pt demo for max nuke efficiency I think |
02:00.04 | NeoTron_ | it's possible a aff/dest build could work |
02:00.31 | NeoTron_ | anyhow time to head home |
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02:07.31 | Tekkub | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
02:07.38 | Tekkub | I'M NAXED! |
02:07.43 | Tekkub | s/X/K/ |
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02:15.12 | Dashkal | Gir rules all |
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02:44.04 | vithos | lol Grip of Mannoroth.. wtf is that itemized for? |
02:46.03 | NivFreak | sword/fist rogue? |
02:46.09 | Tekkub | okey, some updates to the LDB API docs and data spec docs is done :) |
02:46.27 | NivFreak | or part of a <20% weapon set |
02:46.30 | NivFreak | for a warrior |
02:47.35 | NivFreak | it's ass good as an OH glave for a rogue if they don't have the MH, so some say |
02:47.54 | NivFreak | but I think savagery is better |
02:48.18 | vithos | it's an offhand though |
02:48.38 | vithos | you'd want the sword/first in the other hands i thought |
02:48.44 | vithos | fist* |
02:48.47 | NivFreak | not sure |
02:48.53 | NivFreak | all my rogues are swords |
02:48.54 | NivFreak | hehe |
02:48.59 | Firedancer | Funkeh`: I was just trying out your changes to Broker_SysMon and I got the following error (shortened but I have the full bugsack report if needed): Broker_SysMon-1.0\Broker_SysMon.lua:73: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
02:49.00 | Tekkub | fisting for everyone! |
02:49.05 | Firedancer | :o |
02:49.10 | NivFreak | anyway, it'd still make a good < 20% OH for a fury warrior |
02:49.33 | NivFreak | or a nice void crystal or two |
02:51.20 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78166 10Broker_SysMon/Broker_SysMon.lua: Broker_SysMon: Bugfix line 73 |
02:52.14 | vithos | our warrior has an offhand glaive already :( |
02:52.17 | vithos | inc 1 void crystal |
02:53.23 | Funkeh` | Firedancer, fixed |
02:53.50 | Firedancer | :) |
02:55.40 | Gnarfoz | vithos: indeed, it's fist/sword (MH/OH) if at all |
02:55.55 | vithos | yeah :/ |
02:56.21 | vithos | it's not even good as a stat stick for hunters because of the hit |
02:56.36 | Aiiane | so is it just me, or is cripple just plain broken for pvp |
02:56.38 | vithos | well, at least in my raids with draenei aura and a doomkin |
02:56.43 | Firedancer | Funkeh`: the others need to be changed from self.unit to self.suffix as well. Had a new error after the fix, but changing them all works. |
02:56.51 | Hjalte | Is there anywhere online where I can see how much haste someone has? Armory doesnt show it and I don't feel like counting :) |
02:56.58 | Funkeh` | ffs |
02:57.14 | Aiiane | Hjalte - import the character into chardev.org and look there? i think it has a listing |
02:58.14 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78167 10Broker_SysMon/Broker_SysMon.lua: Broker_SysMon: ...and the rest |
02:58.55 | Gnarfoz | lo |
02:58.55 | Gnarfoz | l |
02:59.09 | Gnarfoz | Dan Kaminsky rocks xD |
02:59.10 | Gnarfoz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDKw8ny6IcM |
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03:18.44 | Lukian | LOL. |
03:18.46 | Lukian | I've been on my bank character all of 15mins and at least TWO people have ignored me for using the 'reported' addon |
03:19.43 | Funkeh` | Then don't abuse the reported function? |
03:19.52 | Lukian | ... |
03:20.09 | Funkeh` | ... |
03:20.37 | Lukian | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8283-Reportedbyweasel.html |
03:21.52 | Lukian | rofl, there's a counter to it! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9050-RereportedbyFeathersong.html |
03:22.46 | Aiiane | they're both idiotic addons |
03:23.29 | Funkeh` | http://i27.tinypic.com/30vlpxj.png |
03:25.07 | Lukian | Aiiane, why is why I use them on my bank character for entertainment while AH'ing stuff :D |
03:26.06 | Lukian | Funkeh`, and that is relevant how? |
03:26.29 | Funkeh` | pretty self explanatory dude |
03:26.45 | Lukian | Funkeh`, the addon does nothing but text, it doesn't actually report :p |
03:26.56 | Lukian | it also has rate limiting in place to avoid spamming |
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03:28.31 | Dashkal | Man, that looks as annoying as the LUA trigger. |
03:28.36 | krka | Dashkal: You shouldn't capitalize Lua like that :( |
03:28.42 | Dashkal | ^.^ |
03:28.47 | Lukian | ^ hahahaha |
03:28.53 | Lukian | oh man I should tell him to add lua |
03:29.24 | Dashkal | I think that would quickly get him /silenced by a few people |
03:32.00 | Lukian | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/register.php <- rofl epic captcha! |
03:32.43 | Dashkal | Looks like it could be memorized, though |
03:36.45 | Adam-S | Not a bad idea |
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03:38.16 | aestil | how many tanks does muru require? 4 |
03:38.18 | aestil | ? |
03:38.54 | selckin | 4 |
03:39.10 | selckin | with the common strategy |
03:39.18 | Swtz | 4 tanks, TANKS? |
03:39.22 | aestil | how does that break down. pally tank for the void things, 1 for each? |
03:39.25 | aestil | side |
03:39.32 | aestil | and then a 4th that does what? |
03:39.37 | selckin | 1 warrior for sentinal pickup |
03:40.06 | selckin | 1 each side (2), paladin void spawns |
03:40.13 | aestil | for a 3 tank strat, the pally also tanks sentinal? |
03:40.25 | selckin | you kinda need spell reflect on it |
03:42.08 | selckin | but there are some guilds that aoe both sides at the same time with a paladin tank etc |
03:42.14 | selckin | so whatever |
03:47.03 | Groktar | we're going at it with 3 tanks |
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03:47.41 | Groktar | warrior tank on each side and a pally tanking the rest |
03:47.41 | Groktar | hehe |
03:56.42 | CIA-44 | 03broliant * r78169 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Added the Recruiter tool. |
03:57.51 | Hjalte | Is there an addon that will tell me the actual ISB uptime? I know there was one once, but it stopped working. |
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04:29.09 | Groktar | whee 2% p1 |
04:29.34 | Groktar | i don't understand how we make it through 3 waves fine every time |
04:29.41 | Groktar | and then explode on wave 4 or 5 |
04:33.07 | aestil | so we are doing the daily. H. sethekk halls. |
04:33.19 | aestil | and the tank is a retard |
04:33.21 | aestil | we get to the end |
04:33.26 | aestil | and he wants to tank in some wierd place |
04:33.32 | aestil | we oblidge, it fails miserablly |
04:33.43 | aestil | so i say, no, we'll tank on the pillars like we allways do next time |
04:33.44 | vithos | should tank it on a pillar |
04:33.55 | aestil | and he says 'no you guys screwed up the pull' [we didn't screw up the pull] |
04:34.08 | aestil | so i said, look, this has gone very nicely. just tank it on the pillar and everything will be fine |
04:34.12 | aestil | or we will replace you. |
04:34.30 | aestil | he says 'no, i'm not tanking it on the pillar, i'm tanking it over here on this thing and its always worked before' |
04:34.36 | aestil | i kicked him out |
04:34.42 | aestil | we replaced him with a 2nd healer |
04:34.53 | aestil | and we did it with 2 hunters, a mage and 2 healers. |
04:35.06 | aestil | too bad the guy put me on ignore after calling me some unsavory names |
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04:49.19 | Primer | Can anyone recommend a really good macro reference? |
04:49.26 | Primer | because the examples on wowwiki suck |
04:49.37 | Primer | plus they seem to be quite dated |
04:50.32 | Primer | I want to make a pet macro for all warlock pets, that, in order, do their special attack (Spell Lock, Seduction, mostly) on focus, pettarget, and target, in that order |
04:50.54 | Primer | but having to specify [target=...] like, 6 times takes up all 255 characters |
04:56.03 | Primer | conditionals seem to be so strange in macros |
04:57.08 | Primer | is there no way to say "If target == me" ? |
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05:05.27 | Diao | target=player |
05:05.33 | Diao | if you want to target yourself |
05:05.56 | Diao | try this, Primer |
05:13.14 | Diao | actually yeah i don't think you can without specifying target= a ton of time |
05:13.15 | Diao | times* |
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05:17.15 | VonhintenHOME` | !rating 1425 |
05:17.24 | VonhintenHOME` | wtf is the rating bot |
05:17.39 | Diao | um |
05:17.47 | Diao | xinhuan isn't here |
05:17.49 | Diao | so the bot isn't around |
05:18.11 | Diao | 1425 rating is 327 points (5s), 288 points (3s), and 248 points (2s) |
05:19.21 | Hjalte | Anyone else trying to download the new PTR patch? |
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05:32.15 | Groktar | gets naked 4 u |
05:37.02 | CIA-44 | 03p3lim * r78170 10oUF_P3lim/oUF_P3lim.lua: |
05:37.02 | CIA-44 | oUF_P3lim: |
05:37.02 | CIA-44 | - Last update until i get back from vacation |
05:39.49 | p3lim | Cyall in 2 weeks, have fun |
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06:31.04 | charon | morning |
06:31.35 | charon | remind me again... what exactly would have been wrong with having threat-2.0 simply multiply threat appropriately on a soulshatter fail? |
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06:38.02 | durcyn | nothing, assuming you always divide it on the cast |
06:38.06 | durcyn | Funkeh`: ping |
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07:00.02 | cncfanatics | yo all |
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07:11.51 | CIA-44 | 03scorpio0920 * r78171 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Thorngrin.lua: |
07:11.51 | CIA-44 | LittleWigs: |
07:11.51 | CIA-44 | - Update zhTW localization. |
07:12.38 | CIA-44 | 03sayclub * r78172 10ClassTimer/Locales/koKR.lua: |
07:12.38 | CIA-44 | ClassTimer: |
07:12.38 | CIA-44 | - koKR Update |
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07:44.53 | aestil | got my engineering helm crafted vithos |
07:44.57 | aestil | and have 80 badges |
07:45.05 | aestil | kara on saturday will put me over 100. |
07:45.08 | aestil | go go bow. |
07:45.18 | aestil | no one on right now cuts relentless meta gem though. |
07:45.23 | aestil | so its a waste sorta. |
07:47.12 | cnc|work | I cut them :p |
07:47.17 | cnc|work | are you on kazzak eu ? :p |
07:47.24 | aestil | hah. no. |
07:47.29 | aestil | darkspear us. |
07:47.32 | aestil | its funny. |
07:47.32 | vithos | i just did prince! it didn't drop :( |
07:47.49 | aestil | well, that bow would be nice |
07:47.53 | aestil | but i want the badge bow. |
07:48.06 | aestil | have to get a crit scope worked up now. |
07:48.23 | aestil | does your pet scale with all your stats? or just sta and ap? |
07:48.49 | vithos | mostly stam and ap i think |
07:48.56 | vithos | possibly int for spell crit |
07:49.10 | aestil | i'm using ravager |
07:49.20 | aestil | i guess i should work on getting a windserpent for brutalis |
07:49.29 | aestil | but i'm a ways away from doing that enoucnter with them |
07:49.41 | aestil | the leather engeineering pattern dropped tonight. |
07:49.48 | aestil | went to some alt rogue. |
07:50.06 | vithos | i got twins shoulders tonight |
07:50.49 | vithos | two dropped heh |
07:50.52 | aestil | nice. |
07:50.59 | aestil | our first kill 2 plate dropped |
07:51.16 | aestil | one went to tank [over 900 health on them] and dps warrior got the other |
07:51.30 | aestil | they should take it a step further and let you transmute them to pally tank and pally dps as well. |
07:51.32 | aestil | that would be very clever. |
07:51.47 | vithos | it was funny when people saw the loot |
07:51.54 | vithos | "can those be exchanged? no." |
07:53.57 | aestil | sleep time for me |
07:54.00 | vithos | same |
07:54.02 | aestil | stupid meta gem |
07:54.02 | vithos | later |
07:54.14 | winkiller | i |
07:54.25 | winkiller | I'd love to see SUNWELL :/ |
07:56.39 | winkiller | working with 2 keyboards and 2 mice ftl |
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08:27.37 | digmouse | uh, what if i want to update an old but still working addon, ok, it's arcHUD, need permission? |
08:30.04 | Snago | The author is MIA? |
08:31.24 | digmouse | ya, MIA |
08:31.33 | digmouse | and i just wanna fix a font issue |
08:31.41 | digmouse | so i need an admin permission |
08:35.07 | Zhinjio | question... are the localized class names in french different depending on the gender of the toon? |
08:35.08 | durcyn | if you have a bugfix for an abandoned addon, it's usually safe to commit |
08:35.17 | durcyn | just be prepared for people to ask you to support it ;) |
08:35.24 | digmouse | Zhinjio: yes |
08:35.33 | Zhinjio | cries. |
08:36.08 | digmouse | I'll try durcyn, and pray for arrow or someone else wont bust me up |
08:36.40 | digmouse | Zhinjio: see color.lua in SLDataText, it contains all class names of all genders in french |
08:37.07 | Zhinjio | the weird thing is that ... if I'm not mistaken, I'm using the enClassNames when I do anything. |
08:37.18 | Zhinjio | and they aren't different in english, so wtf, over. |
08:37.19 | durcyn | Zhinjio: should also be in Babble-Class |
08:37.26 | digmouse | ya, LibBB |
08:37.54 | Zhinjio | alright, I guess I need to do some more thorough checking to make sure I'm not using the localized names anywhere real. |
08:39.04 | Gnarfoz | 2nd return of UnitClass. |
08:39.06 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
08:39.08 | durcyn | Zhinjio: select(2, UnitClass()) imo |
08:39.09 | durcyn | yeah, that. |
08:39.23 | Gnarfoz | and they're different in deDE, too now |
08:39.50 | digmouse | esES, deDE and frFR all different |
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08:46.14 | Zhinjio | ah, GetRaidRosterInfo is the culprit |
08:46.23 | Zhinjio | is French the only language that does that? |
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08:48.59 | cnc|work | prolly not Zhinjio |
08:51.04 | Zhinjio | "raidX" is the proper unit name for raid units, right? |
08:51.07 | Zhinjio | with X being the raid id |
08:51.15 | CIA-44 | 03digmouse * r78173 10ArcHUD2/Locale_zhCN.lua: |
08:51.15 | CIA-44 | ArcHUD2: |
08:51.15 | CIA-44 | -fix font issue on zhCN clients since 2.1.4, oh it's not an locale update, burn me down |
08:51.39 | profalbert | raid1-40 yep |
08:54.02 | CIA-44 | 03elsia * r78174 10Recount/deletion.lua: |
08:54.02 | CIA-44 | Recount: |
08:54.02 | CIA-44 | - Potential fix for double deletions when receiving RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE after zoning. |
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09:04.52 | CIA-44 | 03gnarfoz * r78175 10FDLogger/ (. FDLogger.toc huntard.lua): FDLogger: initial import, tries to track hunter's use of Feign Death in raids |
09:05.12 | Gnarfoz | yay |
09:06.56 | Gnarfoz | so I hope that works as I want it to :D |
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09:09.35 | digmouse | gnarfoz what if FD are resisted |
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09:09.47 | digmouse | is that counted in the tracker? |
09:09.50 | Gnarfoz | nothing happens |
09:09.59 | Gnarfoz | can't detect that case unless you're the hunter |
09:10.25 | digmouse | o |
09:10.29 | Gnarfoz | this is mainly because of some retard hunter in my raid pulling aggro from bosses |
09:10.39 | Gnarfoz | and claiming he used FD every time it was up |
09:10.57 | digmouse | .... so that's a shame |
09:10.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
09:11.10 | digmouse | a hunter oted lol |
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09:11.39 | Gnarfoz | if you're interested in how to detect resists, have a look at Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua, it handles it as good as possible, I think |
09:12.20 | Gnarfoz | still, because this one is mainly for surveillance, it's not likely to be run by the suspects :> |
09:12.24 | digmouse | i'll look into that, just wanna write a FD resist pulse for GhostPulse |
09:13.55 | KriLL3 | the test realm isn't up anymore, doesn't that mean the patch is coming soon? |
09:14.08 | theoddone33 | means next tuesday usually doesn't it? |
09:14.10 | [Ammo] | haha http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/comicsnowmanfap1.png |
09:14.17 | KriLL3 | Wednesday actually |
09:14.34 | digmouse | ah suck my logical mind |
09:15.02 | theoddone33 | naughty dog looks pretty cool |
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09:15.57 | digmouse | I spent a week to understand for loop but failed :( |
09:17.00 | Gnarfoz | ? :D for i=<start value>, <end value> do stuff end |
09:17.04 | Snago | lua> for i = 1, 10 do print(i) end |
09:17.04 | lua_bot | Snago: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
09:17.05 | Gnarfoz | how's that hard ;> |
09:17.42 | cnc|work | a for loop is the logic itself |
09:17.44 | Snago | lua> for i = 1, 10, 2 do print(i) end |
09:17.45 | lua_bot | Snago: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 |
09:17.52 | erikh | does the bot or the print statement add the commas and spaces? |
09:17.55 | Snago | lua> for i = 10, 1, -2 do print(i) end |
09:17.55 | lua_bot | Snago: 10, 8, 6, 4, 2 |
09:17.57 | digmouse | :( cant remember what the values stands for |
09:18.00 | erikh | that's kind of disturbing if it's the latter. |
09:18.03 | cnc|work | there's 2 values |
09:18.17 | Snago | erikh: the bot |
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09:18.19 | cnc|work | if you can't remember that a first value is start and last value is end you have a problem :/ |
09:18.21 | digmouse | :( always messed up the 3 |
09:18.37 | Snago | cnc|work: there's 3 values |
09:18.44 | cnc|work | two most of the time |
09:19.04 | Snago | start, stop, step |
09:19.10 | cnc|work | digmouse: did you program in any languages before lua? |
09:19.17 | digmouse | cnc: no |
09:19.25 | cnc|work | how long ago did u start lua ? |
09:19.28 | digmouse | no any coding experience |
09:19.34 | digmouse | 3 weeks |
09:19.45 | cnc|work | then it's normal you don't understand everything yet :) |
09:19.58 | cnc|work | after making 200 for loops you'll know the args by heart don't worry :p |
09:20.15 | digmouse | I can only write a "hello world" |
09:20.39 | digmouse | I tried to look into c to find some basis but that's even harder |
09:20.42 | digmouse | :( |
09:21.41 | cnc|work | digmouse: thats a bad idea |
09:21.48 | cnc|work | lua has nothing to do with c except that it's written in it |
09:22.17 | digmouse | and my mathmatics so sucked that i cant turn one simple question into math solution |
09:22.39 | cnc|work | digmouse: what I lacked when I started with lua was something useful yet easy to write |
09:23.04 | cnc|work | and its mainly logic, not so much maths rly |
09:23.12 | cnc|work | (for the easy stuff at least) |
09:23.30 | digmouse | :( I faild almost every math exam since Grade 7 |
09:23.37 | digmouse | *failed |
09:23.37 | cnc|work | what does that have to do with it ? |
09:23.37 | theoddone33 | just use while loops |
09:23.47 | theoddone33 | it'll be funny |
09:23.49 | cnc|work | also, *please* stop prefixing everything you say with :( |
09:23.59 | digmouse | sorry cnc |
09:24.03 | cnc|work | digmouse: if you want I can answer your questions |
09:24.13 | cnc|work | I need specific questions though |
09:25.10 | cnc|work | can't just answer "learn me lua" :) |
09:25.46 | digmouse | maybe lua is just too flexible for a coding noob |
09:28.39 | cnc|work | nah, it's fine imo |
09:28.44 | cnc|work | its easy, but you can do a lot with it |
09:28.53 | cnc|work | what are you struggling with ? |
09:29.45 | digmouse | last night i spent 2 hours to try print "1*1 1*2 1*3 ...... 9*8 9*9" |
09:30.41 | cnc|work | ok, first of all |
09:30.45 | cnc|work | printing in WoW is a bit anoying |
09:30.50 | cnc|work | as there is no print() function |
09:31.07 | digmouse | I use a ide, not in game |
09:31.12 | digmouse | wxLuaEditor |
09:31.15 | cnc|work | ah, ok, an IDE |
09:31.23 | cnc|work | thats a double nested for loop |
09:31.27 | cnc|work | as there are two variables changing |
09:31.34 | cnc|work | and each goes from 1 to 9 |
09:31.39 | cnc|work | do you understand that ? |
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09:33.42 | Snago | lua> for i = 1, 3 do for j = 1, 3 do print(i.."*"..j) end end |
09:33.42 | lua_bot | Snago: 1*1, 1*2, 1*3, 2*1, 2*2, 2*3, 3*1, 3*2, 3*3 |
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09:42.27 | theoddone33 | if you don't understand for loops you don't have to use them |
09:42.39 | theoddone33 | they're just a convenience |
09:42.50 | theoddone33 | as long as you understand 'while' |
09:42.50 | winkiller | if you don't understand for-loops there's not much you can code... |
09:43.12 | theoddone33 | that's not at all true |
09:43.24 | theoddone33 | most people who can code happen to understand them though |
09:43.29 | Snago | There's lots to code without loops |
09:44.47 | theoddone33 | I think it's more an issue of not understanding good ways to structure your logic flow rather than with for or while itself though |
09:45.21 | digmouse | that's what bothers me for years |
09:48.39 | theoddone33 | so.... who else is excited about the activision blizzard merger??! |
09:48.41 | theoddone33 | just me? ok |
09:49.19 | Gnarfoz | erm, you're behind by about ... 6 months or so? :> |
09:49.23 | winkiller | yeah |
09:49.28 | Gnarfoz | excitement's died down by now :) |
09:49.44 | Aiiane | http://www.flickr.com/photos/11566020@N05/2653868010/ |
09:49.46 | erikh | yeah, i'm sure it's going to be just as awesome as when vivendi universal got involved |
09:49.49 | theoddone33 | not so much, it just got approved 2 days ago and is actually happening soon |
09:50.15 | theoddone33 | I'm hoping to get WoW perks out of it as I work for activision |
09:52.08 | theoddone33 | that's a funny picture but the guy probably had two open |
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09:54.51 | KriLL3 | I can't see why you get excited about corporate mergers |
09:55.32 | KriLL3 | all it means in the long end is less diversity and competition |
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09:59.58 | digmouse | burn EA down |
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10:59.08 | Kuosi | blizz never fails to suprise me |
10:59.12 | Kuosi | logged in on my rogue |
10:59.25 | Kuosi | tried to mount up in shatt, wondered why nothing happens |
10:59.26 | Kuosi | http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hehdrakexb1.jpg |
11:02.51 | cnc|work | Kuosi: can't access that image :p |
11:02.59 | Kuosi | hum |
11:03.01 | Kuosi | what it says |
11:03.30 | Kuosi | http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5120/hehdrakexb1.jpg |
11:03.30 | cnc|work | my proxy gives an error |
11:03.31 | Kuosi | that one? |
11:03.34 | cnc|work | (it always does for any http code) |
11:03.39 | Kuosi | ah |
11:03.48 | cnc|work | for any http code that is not success that is |
11:03.51 | cnc|work | second link worked |
11:04.10 | cnc|work | vengeful drake :o |
11:04.11 | cnc|work | nice |
11:04.21 | Kuosi | yes but do you see something missing? |
11:04.40 | cnc|work | not directly no |
11:04.41 | cnc|work | englighten me |
11:05.02 | Kuosi | like the "Use: Summons and dissmisses..." :o |
11:05.04 | Kuosi | on green |
11:05.19 | cnc|work | haha, indeed |
11:05.23 | cnc|work | blizz messed up ? :op |
11:05.28 | Kuosi | obv |
11:05.37 | Kuosi | worked fine before |
11:05.39 | Kuosi | logged in today |
11:05.41 | Kuosi | and bam |
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11:06.15 | cnc|work | ticket |
11:06.46 | Kuosi | have one up |
11:06.47 | winkiller | lol |
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11:08.36 | Funkeh` | how do you get to hyjal these days |
11:08.40 | Funkeh` | the old place |
11:08.59 | cnc|work | you get ported out if you do anyway Funkeh` |
11:09.04 | cnc|work | and you do via model editing |
11:10.00 | Funkeh` | eh? |
11:10.05 | cnc|work | you need to model edit a model you can easely place on the ground into a staircase |
11:10.11 | cnc|work | *hint* cooking fire *hint* |
11:10.23 | winkiller | rofl |
11:10.27 | winkiller | that's so awkward |
11:10.43 | Pkekyo| | the ending of Stargate: Continuum fucking sucks |
11:10.48 | Kuosi | ye you get a no mans land debuff if you enter there |
11:10.51 | Kuosi | and get teleported out |
11:11.10 | Kuosi | i went there on my rogue while i still had rocketboots+slowfall cloak |
11:11.54 | Pkekyo| | kudos for concept, but didn't they do this in a SG-1 episode allready? |
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11:32.20 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: shut it, some of us havent seen it yet |
11:32.34 | winkiller | and some of us never will :) |
11:32.55 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: didn't get anywhere near details |
11:33.10 | Arrowmaster | i know but just making sure you dont |
11:33.12 | Pkekyo| | and there's been like... 200 episodes? could be any one of them |
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11:33.30 | Arrowmaster | yeah about that |
11:33.31 | Pkekyo| | I said that stuff half an hour ago or something, allready had shut up x) |
11:33.36 | Arrowmaster | 20+ per season 10 seaons |
11:33.43 | Pkekyo| | ranging from 18-22 per season, if memory serves? |
11:34.03 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was 22 for all the early seasons then 20 for the later |
11:34.12 | Arrowmaster | i could check my box set |
11:34.17 | Pkekyo| | well, I've gotta go buy some bigass steaks...laters |
11:34.19 | cnc|work | I so need to download all the stargate seasons when I have some time |
11:34.21 | Pkekyo| | box set?! I HATE YOU :p |
11:34.28 | Arrowmaster | =D |
11:34.31 | cnc|work | downloads ftw |
11:34.32 | Pkekyo| | cnc|work: screw you, buy them :> |
11:34.34 | Pkekyo| | worth it |
11:34.39 | Pkekyo| | if only I had the buck |
11:34.49 | Arrowmaster | i had all 10 seasons downloaded but got the box set for christmas |
11:34.59 | Pkekyo| | mate of mine bought the box set on ebay, but got a chinese knockoff xD |
11:35.00 | Arrowmaster | downloaded took up over 80 gigs of space |
11:35.22 | Pkekyo| | half the DVDs didn't even work |
11:35.29 | Pkekyo| | and the labels kept falling off the discs |
11:35.41 | winkiller | lol |
11:35.42 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
11:35.50 | winkiller | SG is so.. dull imo |
11:35.53 | Pkekyo| | he even paid retail price for the crap |
11:35.55 | cnc|work | they're cool |
11:35.59 | Pkekyo| | winkiller: die a horribly painful death |
11:36.06 | cnc|work | why did he pay retail price for something on ebay ? |
11:36.13 | cnc|work | might as well have gone to a shop then |
11:36.15 | Pkekyo| | cnc|work: not available in country :) |
11:36.27 | Pkekyo| | our country sucks |
11:36.28 | Fisker- | slaps winkiller around a bit with a large trout |
11:36.34 | cnc|work | online stores > ebay |
11:36.35 | Fisker- | don't flame SG! |
11:36.36 | winkiller | hai fisqr |
11:36.36 | Pkekyo| | ~whalecrit winkiller |
11:36.37 | purl | ACTION crits winkiller with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. winkiller dies |
11:36.42 | cnc|work | Fisker-: finaly you're doing something useful |
11:36.51 | Pkekyo| | lol indeed |
11:36.56 | Kuosi | so |
11:36.58 | Pkekyo| | well, gotta go get them steaks now...laters |
11:37.00 | Kuosi | now the gm im speaking with |
11:37.01 | winkiller | I didn't like it, leave me my opinion |
11:37.08 | Fisker- | no |
11:37.10 | Kuosi | is trying to learn riding skill but doesnt have 5k gold |
11:37.11 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: what country? |
11:37.12 | Fisker- | Your opinion is invalid |
11:37.13 | Fisker- | :o |
11:37.16 | Kuosi | maybe he wants to borrow some of mine |
11:37.40 | cnc|work | lol ? |
11:37.45 | cnc|work | wth Kuosi ? :p |
11:37.46 | Kuosi | yep |
11:37.55 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: Welcome to Norway. Our cultural heritage involves drinking, smashing, raiding and making weird cheese. |
11:38.03 | Pkekyo| | off |
11:38.15 | Arrowmaster | what dvd region is norway? |
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11:38.53 | cnc|work | europe |
11:39.01 | cnc|work | whole europe is the same region iirc |
11:39.09 | Camci | Region 02 |
11:39.12 | Arrowmaster | like 2 or something right? |
11:39.23 | Camci | 2 yea |
11:39.34 | cnc|work | dvd regions are useless bypassable junk anyway |
11:39.36 | Arrowmaster | hate dvd regions |
11:39.50 | cnc|work | they're bypassable anyway Arrowmaster ? :p |
11:40.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah i have my dvd burner flashed with a regionless firmware anyway |
11:40.24 | cnc|work | didn't do that here, as I never write dvd's anyway |
11:40.32 | cnc|work | just using mplayer to read dvd's bypasses it for reading |
11:40.37 | Arrowmaster | you cant write region coding afaik |
11:40.38 | cnc|work | and won't lock ur player to a certain region |
11:41.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah my player isnt looked to any regions, not the firmware that lets you change it unlimited times but firmware that completely unlocks it |
11:41.43 | Kuosi | cnc|work: http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gm4ri2.jpg |
11:43.58 | cnc|work | Kuosi: did he need to help you with an issue on a mount only region or what ? |
11:44.18 | Kuosi | he's trying to help me with my nether drake |
11:44.59 | cnc|work | ah |
11:45.11 | cnc|work | whats the issue ? :o |
11:46.11 | Kuosi | cant mount it |
11:46.32 | Kuosi | it has no "Use: Summons and dissmisses bla bla" in the item tooltip |
11:47.59 | Fisker- | think you can stop me cnc|work? |
11:48.35 | cnc|work | Fisker-: ofc I ca |
11:48.39 | cnc|work | s/ca/can/ |
11:48.45 | cnc|work | Fisker-: /ignore Fisker- always work |
11:48.57 | Fisker- | oh god Kuosi |
11:49.04 | Fisker- | He ended his :D smiley with a period |
11:49.05 | Fisker- | :D. |
11:49.07 | Fisker- | I HATE HIM |
11:49.45 | Fisker- | ~cartographer3 |
11:49.46 | purl | i heard cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
11:49.55 | Kuosi | haha |
11:51.05 | cnc|work | charon: it won't let me generate an ssh keypair for using with git ? :o |
11:51.11 | cnc|work | ups, wron chan |
11:51.45 | Fisker- | whats a keypair for? |
11:52.03 | cnc|work | Fisker-: to lock you up |
11:52.22 | Fisker- | you can't |
11:52.42 | Fisker- | so it's basically just to bypass standard authentication? |
11:53.04 | Fisker- | and then they know it's the right person because he has a key :o |
11:55.47 | charon | it replaces a password in the same way that asymmetric encryption replaces symmetric encryption |
11:56.12 | charon | instead of "i trust anyone who knows $secret to {log in, read this mail}" you say "i trust anyone who knows the private key to $public_key to {log in, read this mail}" |
11:56.32 | Fisker- | yeah |
11:56.32 | charon | which is inherently more secure because the $secret never goes over teh evul intarwebz. |
11:57.01 | Fisker- | yeah think if it ventured to my part of teh intarwebz |
11:57.09 | Fisker- | i would have delicious cake |
11:57.13 | Fisker- | and secrets of course |
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12:41.07 | ktwo | do u know a better addon for arenatargets? im currently using proximo but it does not properly recognize pets/characters or is that a non-solvable issue? |
12:42.28 | winkiller | never had probs with proxim |
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12:45.20 | phyber | ktwo: you mean when the player/pet both have the same name? |
12:45.29 | ktwo | lets say a hunter names his pet after the healer, proximo always targets the pet first |
12:46.11 | phyber | that's a WoW issue. afaik. |
12:46.18 | Kuosi | yes |
12:47.15 | Fisker- | just report them |
12:47.17 | Fisker- | that is more win |
12:47.39 | winkiller | why? |
12:48.50 | Fisker- | because then you get them banned as well |
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12:49.26 | phyber | it's bannable to name your pet after someone on your team? |
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12:50.25 | ktwo | i dont think it is |
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12:51.05 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmasterwhat dvd region is norway? <--- no idea, but europe is 2 |
12:57.46 | Funkeh` | aka PAL |
12:59.05 | Gnarfoz | <Fisker-> because then you get them banned as well <-- that's not bannable |
12:59.11 | Gnarfoz | sadly :( |
12:59.22 | Gnarfoz | but 2.4.3 will give us /targetplayer :) |
12:59.42 | Arrowmaster | its kinda silly |
13:01.42 | Gnarfoz | probably too complex to check for all existing player names on pet naming |
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13:06.56 | winkiller | aren't pet names unique anymore? |
13:07.47 | winkiller | really been a while since I got the "pet name not available" |
13:08.06 | winkiller | and there must be thousands of new hunters on that realm now :P |
13:16.31 | cnc|work | winkiller: were they ever not unique ? :o |
13:16.38 | cnc|work | you can even give them the name of a player iirc |
13:16.56 | winkiller | cnc|work: in may 2005 we got "pet name not available" for default pet names |
13:17.22 | winkiller | like.. can't remember, something like Yogi (Bear) |
13:17.32 | winkiller | or FLuffy |
13:18.01 | Gnarfoz | pet names are probably or possibly unique among themselves |
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13:18.19 | Gnarfoz | they can be the same as player names, though, obviously :( |
13:18.23 | winkiller | yea |
13:18.26 | winkiller | what I meant |
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13:18.37 | cnc|work | what tag do people usualy give to untested code that still needs to be tested ? |
13:19.09 | Gnarfoz | dry-coded? |
13:19.21 | winkiller | not the same |
13:19.28 | winkiller | "it compiles" != tested :) |
13:19.44 | Gnarfoz | dry-coded doesn't even imply it compiles |
13:19.49 | winkiller | yep |
13:19.54 | cnc|work | it compiles in this case :) |
13:19.58 | Gnarfoz | well :) |
13:19.59 | winkiller | see? /flex |
13:20.02 | cnc|work | well, it passes luac -p |
13:20.11 | Gnarfoz | magic awesome psychic powers ^^ |
13:20.13 | winkiller | yeah, about the same |
13:20.23 | cnc|work | I'll give it the drycoded tag |
13:20.25 | Gnarfoz | I'd call it 'untested' ;p or "beta" ;D |
13:20.33 | cnc|work | just need a tag in the code I can grep for when I can run WoW |
13:20.46 | Gnarfoz | "FIXME" :D |
13:20.57 | winkiller | FIXME is awesome |
13:22.27 | Gnarfoz | http://notalwaysright.com/how-to-lose-your-marbles-in-style/817 < awesome page |
13:23.17 | winkiller | rofl |
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13:25.47 | VVyrm | Can anyone tell me what addons are seen in this picture: http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/188/uiorangelinesoa3.jpg |
13:26.10 | Gnarfoz | ...several :D |
13:26.21 | VVyrm | I like the action bar and the chat with the black background. |
13:26.55 | Gnarfoz | probably: some actionbar addon (like Bartender3 or 4, Bongos, Dominos (they can all be made to look like that) |
13:27.00 | Kuosi | kn panels |
13:27.04 | Kuosi | for the background shit |
13:27.10 | Gnarfoz | the chat actually has *no* background and instead it's some kind of panel addon |
13:27.14 | Gnarfoz | eePanels2 or kgPanels |
13:27.18 | Kuosi | actionbar mod can be anything rly |
13:27.26 | Gnarfoz | positioned behind the chat |
13:27.47 | VVyrm | Ok :) Thanks guys. I will give it a try. |
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13:38.10 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78177 10StatBlock_Coords/ (. Libs/ StatBlock_Coords.lua StatBlock_Coords.toc embeds.xml): StatBlock_Coords: Import |
13:39.06 | CIA-44 | 03jncl * r78178 10Skinner/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
13:39.06 | CIA-44 | Skinner: Skinned BaudMenu |
13:39.06 | CIA-44 | - Updated Altoholic & Lootlink skins |
13:39.06 | CIA-44 | - Updated Nameplates skin |
13:39.06 | CIA-44 | - Skinned PetCastingBar |
13:39.32 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, and it hides in instances |
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13:41.05 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: <3 <3 |
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13:41.20 | Funkeh` | I figured it was wasteful running the timer in an instance anyway |
13:41.27 | Funkeh` | so that was the base code |
13:41.31 | Stanzilla | :) |
13:43.47 | Stanzilla | + it looks silly if you have 00,00 all the time |
13:47.26 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78179 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): .trunk: LDB Plugins: Some svn stuff |
13:50.44 | CIA-44 | 03stan * r78180 10ClassTimer/Locales/koKR.lua: ClassTimer: koKR fail. |
13:56.09 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: I think Broker_Clock is broken |
13:56.20 | Stanzilla | it only shows "Broker_Clock" instead of the time |
13:58.16 | Funkeh` | Oo |
13:58.48 | Stanzilla | and it has a "Text Display" field in the options..when I enter stuff there it errors^^ |
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14:00.12 | Funkeh` | you're using an old sbc me thinks |
14:01.01 | Stanzilla | hm the server WAU pulls from is down..let's check |
14:01.43 | Funkeh` | I just logged in with it and it's working ;p |
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14:03.49 | Stanzilla | my SBC is up to date and so is the clock plugin..weird |
14:04.36 | Stanzilla | now my wow crashed...R6035 - pure virtual function call O.o |
14:04.38 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78181 10Broker_Clock/ (. Broker_Clock.lua): Broker_Clock: tweaks |
14:04.41 | Funkeh` | there's no way it can show a text display in clock since it's not defined |
14:04.44 | Stanzilla | *25 |
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14:06.56 | Stanzilla | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/351f682d55bd0c6ed3e17addffaf1604.jpg |
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14:09.31 | Funkeh` | o..k |
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14:09.59 | Funkeh` | hmm |
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14:10.14 | Funkeh` | close wow and open your saved variables |
14:10.24 | Funkeh` | delete the entire "broker_clock_ section |
14:10.45 | DARKGuy | damn that's a sleek UI |
14:10.48 | DARKGuy | can I see it Stanzilla ? :D |
14:11.02 | Stanzilla | It's far from finished, only the top part looks good^^ |
14:11.07 | DARKGuy | ... and how did you get the zone text to be 2 lines height? :O |
14:11.11 | DARKGuy | xD |
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14:11.27 | Stanzilla | make the block too small for the text to fit in one line^^ |
14:11.42 | DARKGuy | o.o cooool |
14:11.43 | DARKGuy | :D |
14:12.07 | Esdot | got a link to the pic stan? i just logged in |
14:12.21 | Stanzilla | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/351f682d55bd0c6ed3e17addffaf1604.jpg |
14:12.46 | Esdot | nice thanks :) |
14:15.20 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: k, works now |
14:15.26 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78182 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: rare wierdness fix with blocks not showing the right text |
14:15.40 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, shouldn't happen again |
14:15.46 | Stanzilla | :) |
14:15.57 | DARKGuy | is now playing: Lou Bega - I Got a Girl |
14:16.00 | DARKGuy | ^_^ |
14:17.05 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78183 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: missed a bit |
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14:22.05 | DARKGuy | Funkeh`: can you even miss at coding? time to increase your coding skills! |
14:22.30 | Funkeh` | It's code for "oops" |
14:23.00 | Funkeh` | coded svn message |
14:25.17 | cnc|work | oops(); |
14:25.26 | DARKGuy | XD |
14:27.09 | cnc|work | instead of debug(blabla); |
14:27.13 | cnc|work | use oops(blabla); |
14:28.39 | DARKGuy | hahahah |
14:29.05 | cnc|work | cld be entertaining for people using your code tbh |
14:30.49 | DARKGuy | yeah |
14:32.02 | DARKGuy | I love reading comments of some projects I look around in the net |
14:32.20 | DARKGuy | some of them are funny :p |
14:32.41 | Stanzilla | I fail at Diablo Interfaces :( http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2106a82861911c459249bf4e6e563f95.jpg |
14:33.41 | cnc|work | lol |
14:33.55 | cnc|work | I agree |
14:34.00 | cnc|work | it sucks monkey balls |
14:34.22 | Stanzilla | indeed |
14:34.28 | Funkeh` | lol what's wrong with it |
14:35.37 | Stanzilla | the bottom part is ok but the rest just doesn't fit..apart from that..it's only a test..my normal interface looks different |
14:36.40 | DARKGuy | haha, already using D3's interface? |
14:36.40 | DARKGuy | lol |
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14:36.56 | DARKGuy | lol @ whispers |
14:37.01 | cnc|work | Stanzilla: I'd suggest flexabr for that kind of stuff tbh |
14:37.07 | cnc|work | instead of the ab mod ur using |
14:37.13 | cnc|work | cld finetune positioning more |
14:37.26 | Funkeh` | speak english |
14:37.36 | Stanzilla | heh |
14:37.41 | cnc|work | well, personaly I don't like having 3 big clusters of bar |
14:37.46 | Kuosi | do you really need to see your stances? |
14:37.49 | cnc|work | it's nicer to be able to space out buttons as to make groups |
14:37.56 | DARKGuy | Stanzilla: I once made something bizarre :D -> http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8223/wowscrnshot022308041131je8.jpg -- http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9814/wowscrnshot022308041032ud3.jpg -- http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4739/wowscrnshot022308041104wh6.jpg |
14:38.28 | Stanzilla | lol scary! :p |
14:38.31 | cnc|work | rofl DARKGuy |
14:39.05 | DARKGuy | :D it was fun to use it for a while |
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14:39.26 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: !! -> http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8223/wowscrnshot022308041131je8.jpg -- http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9814/wowscrnshot022308041032ud3.jpg -- http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4739/wowscrnshot022308041104wh6.jpg |
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14:44.58 | AckisWork | lol diablo for wow |
14:46.04 | Esdot | fail diablo interface is fail |
14:46.43 | AckisWork | diablo is fail |
14:46.50 | AckisWork | stupid game requires me to play 100% w/ a mouse |
14:47.54 | Stanzilla | you do that in wow, too :P |
14:48.14 | AckisWork | negative ghost rider, pattern is full |
14:48.19 | AckisWork | :P |
14:48.22 | Stanzilla | :< |
14:50.16 | durcyn | Funkeh`: gief StatBlock_Folks imo |
14:50.28 | Funkeh` | it's half made |
14:50.30 | AckisWork | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/ind :D |
14:50.31 | DARKGuy | nah, Diablo is the win |
14:50.55 | laeg | no wai |
14:50.57 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: it was cool though, you could eat and play at the same time |
14:51.16 | laeg | how can you enjoy a single player game when you could be playing a mmorpg |
14:51.17 | Gnarfoz | thus, THE lan party game |
14:51.25 | Gnarfoz | diablo is not single player o_O |
14:51.29 | DARKGuy | lol! |
14:51.34 | laeg | lewl |
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14:51.46 | DARKGuy | Diablo is multiplayer, and its PvP was the best back then |
14:51.49 | Gnarfoz | not entirely, at least (it's about 1/4 the fun in single player :P) |
14:51.54 | DARKGuy | yeah :p |
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14:52.04 | AckisWork | meh, if they allowed you the mouse controls but also WASD/arrow keys I might like it better... plus an autoloot/key to loot function opposed to having to click on loot |
14:52.07 | laeg | roll on world of starcraft |
14:52.26 | DARKGuy | alt + click ftw. |
14:52.37 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: I guess that's stuff coming for d3, they're not *too* prone to repeating UI design mistakes ;) |
14:52.51 | laeg | also there's a world of warcraft movie in the works, i hope they don't mess it up like the zelda movie |
14:52.56 | AckisWork | clicking on all those little loot things is annoying as hell |
14:53.01 | DARKGuy | there was a zelda movie? |
14:53.04 | AckisWork | I like hellgate londons style |
14:53.08 | laeg | there is a zelda movie |
14:53.23 | Gnarfoz | http://notalwaysright.com/more-frisky-than-frail/782 |
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14:53.47 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: oh... that's why. I never had problems with that... but then again....... *cough* |
14:54.01 | DARKGuy | zelda movie, I should look it up |
14:54.17 | AckisWork | DARKGuy: you say you can only play with the mouse, but ALT-click isn't just the mouse :P logic flaw in the UI |
14:54.31 | Gnarfoz | you don't *need* to alt-click |
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14:54.46 | Gnarfoz | alt is just the shortcut to show *all* loot for convenience |
14:54.47 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
14:54.55 | Gnarfoz | and it wasn't even in from the start |
14:54.56 | Gnarfoz | lol |
14:55.15 | Gnarfoz | I remember mousing over areas like crazy because I saw something drop but couldn't find it to pick it up :D |
14:55.19 | AckisWork | I tried playing w/ my gf a week ago and I couldn't stand the game at all |
14:55.25 | AckisWork | I think hellgate is 10000x better |
14:55.38 | DARKGuy | lol Gnarfoz, true |
14:56.06 | DARKGuy | I need to get hellgate, I've heard it's good |
14:56.12 | DARKGuy | my mom was an avid D2 player |
14:56.18 | Gnarfoz | I heard the opposite, actually |
14:56.19 | DARKGuy | she had a lvl 99 bowazon o_o; |
14:56.37 | Gnarfoz | I'll not try D2 before D3 comes out, though, it'll just ruin the memory :D |
14:56.42 | DARKGuy | XD |
14:56.49 | AckisWork | everyone says hellgate is bad, it was at the start apparently but with the patches the game is pretty pro right now |
14:56.57 | AckisWork | I'm level 50, rank 13 heh |
14:57.31 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78184 10/trunk/ (36 files in 18 dirs): .trunk: LDB plugins: gogo externals |
14:58.31 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: what is it with myminicity simply *not* finishing to load (or even render) for me, ever? to this day, I've not even got a clue what it's about at all because it doesn't finish loading ;D |
14:58.36 | Stanzilla | ~seen Tekkub |
14:58.39 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 9m 39s ago, saying: 'fisting for everyone!'. |
14:58.44 | Stanzilla | :O |
15:00.07 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: do you have it adblocked? have flash installed? |
15:00.18 | Gnarfoz | noscript, nothing else. whitelisted the page. |
15:00.34 | Gnarfoz | erm, yeah, flash of course, too ;) |
15:00.41 | Esdot | ~seen cubicool |
15:00.43 | purl | cubicool <n=cubicool@router.emperor-sw2.exsbs.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 23h 7m 56s ago, saying: '_, _, _, x = ...; isn't that a good candidate for select()?'. |
15:00.43 | AckisWork | hmm it looks like it registered your click at least lol |
15:01.00 | AckisWork | not sure why it wouldn't load |
15:02.33 | Gnarfoz | hmm, I guess it'll randomly work one day :D |
15:02.40 | AckisWork | just keep clicking ;) |
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15:17.49 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen Neronix |
15:17.51 | purl | neronix <i=neronix@user-514c5185.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 597d 15h 38m 35s ago, saying: 'Are they made of friggin' antimatter or something? -_-'. |
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15:18.34 | MoonWork | dammn. |
15:18.40 | MoonWork | ~seen rowne |
15:18.41 | purl | i haven't seen 'rowne', MoonWork |
15:18.45 | MoonWork | hah! |
15:20.34 | AckisWork | ~seen penis |
15:20.35 | purl | AckisWork: i haven't seen 'penis' |
15:20.44 | AckisWork | Purl is a girl then. |
15:21.08 | durcyn | always has been ;) |
15:21.13 | ZealotOnAStick | who's been maintaining MobHealth (3) ? |
15:21.27 | ZealotOnAStick | ~vagina |
15:21.28 | purl | vagina is probably something that i dont have but i like to suck, SUCK PUSSY YEAH!!! |
15:21.36 | ZealotOnAStick | [Ammo]: ping |
15:21.37 | durcyn | lesbian too. |
15:22.13 | ZealotOnAStick | ~seen roartindon |
15:22.14 | purl | roartindon <n=jtlim@cm32.delta200.maxonline.com.sg> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 130d 5h 47m 25s ago, saying: 'Because it receives one parameter sometimes, two parameters at others'. |
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15:25.27 | Stanzilla | it's Ammo |
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15:33.15 | aestil | http://armorylite.com/us/Darkspear/fdas [woot! @ helm] |
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15:37.59 | sb | aestil: we already had rogue/feral and prot warri receipe drops |
15:38.19 | sb | prot warri 10k gold from AH, and feral actually used ;) |
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15:47.56 | laeg | can you take gems out of one item and put them in another? |
15:48.14 | nuoHep` | no |
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15:49.23 | laeg | ty |
15:49.35 | laeg | i can't log in right now and check |
15:50.28 | Pkekyo| | what day is it? |
15:51.25 | nuoHep` | thursday |
15:51.31 | Pkekyo| | ooh! new LFG comic |
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15:54.28 | DARKGuy | LFG! |
15:54.28 | DARKGuy | :D |
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16:02.45 | ckknight | ~seen profalbert |
16:02.50 | purl | profalbert <n=profalbe@80-123-35-112.adsl.highway.telekom.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 11m 11s ago, saying: 'raid1-40 yep'. |
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16:03.14 | digmouse | lua> for i = 1, 9 do print(i * 1) end |
16:03.15 | lua_bot | digmouse: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 |
16:04.00 | digmouse | uh, how to print them in a single line? in ide the output is in 9 lines |
16:05.59 | Snago | lua> local s = "1" for i = 1, 9 do s = s .. ", " .. i end print(s) |
16:05.59 | lua_bot | Snago: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 |
16:06.07 | Snago | dang |
16:06.12 | Snago | lua> local s = "1" for i = 2, 9 do s = s .. ", " .. i end print(s) |
16:06.12 | lua_bot | Snago: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 |
16:06.49 | digmouse | I'll try :D |
16:06.50 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78186 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
16:06.50 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
16:06.50 | CIA-44 | - support value and suffix |
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16:12.49 | Pkekyo| | what the flying fuck...no shield slam in WotLK?! |
16:13.07 | nuoHep` | itll be trainable |
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16:14.33 | Pkekyo| | oh |
16:14.56 | Pkekyo| | almost soiled myself |
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16:16.55 | Funkeh` | yup |
16:16.59 | Funkeh` | mt |
16:17.27 | Fisker- | slaps Funkeh` around a bit with a large trout |
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16:27.20 | Wraithan | I got my wolk build figured out |
16:27.27 | Wraithan | assuming the shaman wolfies are good |
16:28.50 | Pkekyo| | anyone here familiar with nQuestLog? |
16:30.17 | ag` | what is the definition of a quicklauncher? Someone added ClosetGnome to the list, but ClosetGnome isn't a quick launcher, it sets text |
16:31.09 | Pkekyo| | FOR FUCKS FUCKEDUP FUCKING SAKE |
16:31.11 | Pkekyo| | I hate this thing |
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16:37.46 | AckisWork | anyone noticing issues w/ the forum notification stuff for wowace? |
16:38.36 | Stanzilla | ag`: icon only, click opens config |
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16:40.44 | ag` | Stanzilla: okay, but Closetgnome provides text |
16:40.55 | Stanzilla | yeah..so it's wrong on the list |
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16:41.09 | ag` | like what you're wearing |
16:41.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Any of the Ace folks who have stuff up on curse/CurseForge - pretty please be kind and update your projects on CurseForge with recent versions. |
16:41.43 | ZealotOnAStick | If there's any conflicts with ancient projects or you're not properly listed as author there or whatever, please let me know and I'll get it sorted. |
16:42.51 | ulic | good idea, LittleWigs is long overdue |
16:45.00 | harldephin | there's one single enemy i really really hate.. guess who.. |
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16:48.03 | Stanzilla | I so love the pirate bay people.. http://www.tfr.org/wiki/index.php?title=Technical_Proposal_(IPETEE) |
16:49.10 | CIA-44 | 03thrillseeker * r78187 10Baldrick/locals/localisation.lua: Baldrick: deDE localization. Subzone list not yet complete, but definatly usable on german clients. |
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16:51.43 | Elkano | Funkeh`, oRA2's FuBar button is also for setting player or mt targets... so no launcher |
16:52.01 | Funkeh` | uh, so? |
16:52.32 | Elkano | or is that a list of those that will not be turned into launcers? |
16:52.56 | Funkeh` | it's just a hack for custom text |
16:53.25 | Elkano | mkay |
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16:57.35 | ZealotOnAStick | ulic: thank you |
16:57.42 | ZealotOnAStick | I sincerely appreciate it. |
16:58.27 | ulic | ok, got LittleWigs update on curse. Someday maybe I'll do wowace & curseforge side by side somehow. |
16:59.19 | ZealotOnAStick | That's a good idea. I'll see what we can do. |
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17:20.48 | MK_ | anyone use eqdkp plus and time based dkp? |
17:22.11 | durcyn | Elkano: but, left click does bring it out of standby |
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17:41.02 | NeoTron | regardless how low the risk is, it's still a bit freaky to transfer mats for a sunmote craftable on the neutral AH |
17:41.17 | sb | why? |
17:41.34 | NeoTron | because it's worth 12000 gold or more? |
17:41.54 | NeoTron | 5xSunmote: 1g |
17:41.55 | NeoTron | woot |
17:42.01 | Aiiane | heh |
17:42.06 | Aeyan | Didn't one of your people just get shit canned for transfering stuff over the neutral AH? =P |
17:42.09 | Aiiane | luckily most people don't camp the neut AH anymore |
17:42.26 | NeoTron | Aeyan: someone in NivFreak's guild I think |
17:42.45 | NeoTron | but I'm not transferring GOLD (heaven forbid!) but mats |
17:43.01 | NeoTron | because the pattern drop rate is do damned low te only one that can make Loop of Forged Power is on the horde side |
17:43.48 | NeoTron | and we have 8 sunwell guilds, 4 with twins down |
17:44.18 | NeoTron | they should just put a vendor up after twins that allows you to buy the patterns or something |
17:44.44 | NeoTron | the super low sunmote droprate makes flooding a non-issue by itself |
17:45.25 | nevcairiel | I should start camping the AH |
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17:45.43 | Zyndrome | buff pattern-drops in Sunwell! |
17:45.44 | Zyndrome | ;_; |
17:46.43 | Aiiane | buff my retarded guildmates -.- |
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17:47.20 | NeoTron | post twins trash should have significantly higher drop rate |
17:47.31 | NeoTron | I mean part of the problem vs drop rates in BT/Hyjal is the very low amount of trash mobs |
17:47.43 | nevcairiel | they should let the gauntlet drop stuff |
17:47.58 | nevcairiel | only on first kill or so |
17:48.02 | vithos | it does drop stuff |
17:48.02 | nevcairiel | so you cannot farm it |
17:48.05 | vithos | it just despawns |
17:48.12 | NeoTron | vithos: no it doesn't |
17:48.27 | NeoTron | they should make the static spawns have drops |
17:48.49 | NivFreak | christ I hate archimonde |
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17:49.00 | NivFreak | I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever get him to a 1 shot |
17:49.16 | NivFreak | it would help if I wasn't replacing people on a regular basis.. |
17:49.41 | NivFreak | btw, whoever gave me the advice to use a prot pally in full SR for wave 6 of azgalor's trash |
17:49.44 | NeoTron | did twins last night without speccing demo |
17:49.45 | NivFreak | <3 |
17:49.45 | NeoTron | that was nice |
17:49.46 | NivFreak | freaking ezmode |
17:49.52 | NeoTron | NivFreak: told you :P |
17:49.54 | NivFreak | yea |
17:49.56 | NivFreak | stupid easy |
17:50.09 | NivFreak | that was our last bump in hyjal pre-archimonde |
17:50.10 | NivFreak | thanks a lot |
17:50.16 | NeoTron | np |
17:50.26 | NivFreak | although, we had a new hunter last night |
17:50.27 | NivFreak | and he fucked up misdirects twice |
17:50.31 | NivFreak | one caused a wipe on antheron... |
17:50.31 | NivFreak | hahaha |
17:50.37 | NivFreak | so sad |
17:50.38 | NivFreak | and pathetic |
17:51.00 | NivFreak | I'd kill him except he'd never been to hyjal before |
17:51.04 | NivFreak | and he does DPS like he's cleared it |
17:51.47 | Aiiane | hmm... were things already tight? |
17:51.57 | NivFreak | on what |
17:51.57 | Aiiane | we dont always have MDs for our aneth kills but we still do ok |
17:52.08 | NivFreak | nah, it was just a matter of him misdirecting to a healer |
17:52.13 | Aiiane | ....oh. |
17:52.16 | NivFreak | and then it chaining badness |
17:52.17 | Aiiane | hah. |
17:52.24 | NivFreak | the NPCs then got aggro |
17:52.25 | Aiiane | yeah, that might do it |
17:52.29 | NivFreak | he swarmed the entire raid several times |
17:52.37 | NivFreak | dropped an infernal in the middle of a panic pile of casters |
17:52.48 | NivFreak | finally got aggro off the NPCs |
17:52.55 | NivFreak | and half the raid was dead |
17:53.06 | NivFreak | so it was slow decay while we got behind on infernals |
17:53.20 | NivFreak | same hunter failed to move while having an infernal cast on him |
17:53.23 | NivFreak | and took out two healers |
17:53.32 | NivFreak | he was pretty unhappy with himself |
17:53.42 | NivFreak | for good reason |
17:53.49 | vithos | we went and did hyjal for the first time in forever recently |
17:53.53 | vithos | 8 minute anetheron kill! |
17:53.57 | NivFreak | christ |
17:53.58 | NivFreak | wth |
17:54.02 | Primer | Ok, so back to macros |
17:54.17 | Aiiane | for a sec i read that as macos |
17:54.19 | Primer | is there a way to say "IF target = me" in a macro? |
17:54.23 | Aiiane | ive been working in it too long |
17:54.28 | NivFreak | target=player? |
17:54.31 | Primer | no |
17:54.33 | Primer | that targets me |
17:54.34 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78188 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
17:54.34 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
17:54.34 | CIA-44 | - Improved text formatting |
17:54.34 | Aiiane | that just sets it niv |
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17:54.37 | Aiiane | doesnt check it |
17:54.39 | vithos | i don't even remember what happened.. i just know it was bad http://wowwebstats.com/5bxyz6f5b65kw?s=142991-163661 |
17:54.47 | NivFreak | ah, duhg |
17:54.53 | NivFreak | I ran into this same issue |
17:54.57 | NivFreak | I don't think you can |
17:55.07 | Aiiane | same, I don't think it's possible via standard macros |
17:55.11 | NivFreak | if you figure it out, let me know ;) |
17:55.18 | NivFreak | I can fix my charge/intercept/intervene macro |
17:55.50 | Aiiane | i do wish they'd extend the ! syntax |
17:55.56 | Primer | I want a macro to castsequence warlock buffs, but I want the sequence to include fel armor and soul link if I'm the target |
17:56.05 | Aiiane | so that for buffs that can be cast on allies, prefixing it with ! won't cast it on yourself |
17:56.06 | NivFreak | vithos: you only brought 4 dps?haha |
17:56.06 | Primer | that's all |
17:56.09 | NivFreak | (kidding) |
17:56.20 | Aiiane | primer |
17:56.21 | vithos | i think the infernal tank died instantly |
17:56.29 | Primer | Aiiane |
17:56.32 | vithos | healing assignment mixup |
17:56.43 | NivFreak | vithos: how the hell did you make that a kill? :P |
17:56.55 | vithos | feral druids in cat gear tanked infernals |
17:57.11 | NivFreak | wow |
17:57.22 | Primer | so in other words, there's NO way to do this? |
17:57.42 | NivFreak | Primer: not that I know of |
17:57.46 | NivFreak | but if you find a way |
17:57.48 | NivFreak | please tell me |
17:58.09 | Primer | I suppose I could just make the macro cast Unending Breath, Detect Invis, THEN fel armor, soul link |
17:58.13 | vithos | only 5 people didn't die on that kill. |
17:58.14 | Primer | and reset=target |
17:58.20 | NeoTron | I picked up the shoulders from twins (seems to drop every week >:-) |
17:58.50 | NeoTron | so I need to make up for spell hit. that's why I finally decided to drop down the dkp to get the motes for the ring |
17:59.42 | NivFreak | we have no horde guilds on my server with enough motes to let people get 5 for rings ;) |
17:59.54 | NivFreak | I think we have one alliance guild with enough |
18:00.21 | Tekkub | "This payment will post to your account baalance shortly" |
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18:00.29 | Tekkub | oh yea, instil confidence in your customers... |
18:01.28 | NeoTron | NivFreak: we're up to farming twins and we still don't exacly have many |
18:01.49 | NivFreak | it's funny, I have a pug raid group that I run sunwell trash farming with |
18:02.00 | NivFreak | we see 1-4 motes over the course of an hour or two |
18:02.07 | NivFreak | and we just farm the first 3 pulls |
18:02.30 | NivFreak | we've also gotten 2 or 3 pairs of the ele shaman gloves |
18:02.32 | NivFreak | a mounting vengance |
18:02.42 | NivFreak | and a couple of other things that I don't remember |
18:02.55 | NivFreak | I just go when I'm bored |
18:03.07 | NivFreak | but it's nice to pick up a sunmote for some extra cash |
18:04.00 | NeoTron | see |
18:04.00 | NeoTron | people that kill stuff in there don't farm the trash |
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18:04.00 | NivFreak | yep |
18:04.00 | NivFreak | this is a pug |
18:04.00 | NeoTron | farming the trash before kalecgos is how you get loot the best |
18:04.00 | NivFreak | and actually |
18:04.00 | NivFreak | there are guilds that do farm it |
18:04.00 | NivFreak | and kill through brutalus |
18:04.01 | NivFreak | on my server |
18:04.15 | NivFreak | wowhead needs to fix twins loot |
18:04.19 | NivFreak | so it doesn't say zone drop... |
18:04.40 | NeoTron | we need to get to muru asap |
18:04.49 | NeoTron | but I think I'll try to arrange trash farming with alts |
18:05.00 | NivFreak | yea, that's a good way to do it |
18:05.04 | NivFreak | I often heal it on my alt priest |
18:05.09 | NivFreak | it's not hard if you get 4 mages |
18:05.19 | NivFreak | the robot is the hardest part, and come on... |
18:05.33 | NeoTron | exactly |
18:05.37 | NeoTron | if we can alt-run hyjal... |
18:05.59 | NivFreak | you'll be fine |
18:06.26 | NivFreak | we usually bring 4 mages, 3 tanks (why?) and some randoms for it |
18:06.43 | NivFreak | sheep all the dawn/duskpriests |
18:06.48 | NivFreak | and the warlocks |
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18:11.43 | Pkekyo| | where should I level my warr at lvl 21? (horde) |
18:11.43 | NivFreak | southern barrens imo |
18:11.43 | NivFreak | pvp or pve server? |
18:11.56 | Pkekyo| | pvp |
18:12.30 | Orphis | You should level it by killing level 1 boar in valley of honor |
18:12.38 | Primer | I wonder how hard it would be to make pitbull remember the locations of group in a profile |
18:12.51 | Primer | I also wonder why this isn't the default behavior |
18:13.26 | Primer | groups, even |
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18:13.43 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78189 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: |
18:13.43 | CIA-44 | FuBar2Broker: Autodetect most launcher addons. Be sure your display supports the |
18:13.43 | CIA-44 | LDB-1.1 data specifications correctly, see: |
18:13.43 | CIA-44 | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/wikis/data-specifications (this means |
18:13.43 | CIA-44 | .label and .launcher) |
18:15.49 | Primer | crickets... |
18:16.14 | NivFreak | Pkekyo|: I think you can do southern barrens until 25? |
18:16.28 | NivFreak | ashenvale is always bad on my server for pvp, so I try to avoid it |
18:18.29 | NivFreak | NeoTron: how do you guys handle sunwell loot, primarily the exchangeable items and sunmotes? |
18:20.01 | NivFreak | how can I forget, one of spriests got a wand of the demonsoul from our pug sunwell trash farming |
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18:22.50 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78190 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: allow launchers just now |
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18:24.59 | neenee | Good evening. Does anyone know of an addon that can export bank-contents to html? |
18:25.28 | neenee | There was an addon long ago that could do it, but I am unable to find it. |
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18:25.47 | AckisWork | wtf http://www.worldofwar.net/forums/showthread.php?t=412815 lol |
18:25.51 | AckisWork | old thread but funny |
18:26.51 | NeoTron | NivFreak: the exchangable items you get a sunmote with if needed (free of charge). crafted sunmote items we do dkp bidding on |
18:27.00 | khangg_ | Does anyone know how to hide the keybindings text on the default actionbars? |
18:27.20 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78191 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
18:27.20 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
18:27.20 | CIA-44 | - don't show text if label and text is the same |
18:27.44 | krimpsok | neenee: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3160/ I don't know if it's still working but I used it long ago ;) |
18:29.01 | Aiiane | neenee - just get it off the armory? |
18:29.17 | Aiiane | http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-bank-contents.xml?r=YOURREALM&n=YOURGUILDNAME |
18:29.25 | neenee | oh |
18:29.30 | neenee | er that's the guild bank |
18:29.37 | Aiiane | oh, you want personal |
18:29.41 | neenee | yup :) |
18:29.45 | Aiiane | um |
18:29.48 | neenee | =] |
18:30.03 | krimpsok | neenee: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6443-Possessions2.0.2Updated.html update version shows everything you want I think =P |
18:30.08 | Primer | I have my bank contents on rpg outfitter |
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18:30.18 | Primer | http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/wow-gm/char.cfm?char=Barfolomeu@US-Gorgonnash |
18:30.18 | neenee | oki, checking it out. Thank you |
18:30.22 | Aiiane | http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/Addons/CharacterProfiler.cfm |
18:30.25 | neenee | ah, I'll check that too :) |
18:30.31 | Aiiane | same thing :P |
18:30.39 | Primer | I have a curl script for uploading it too |
18:30.42 | Aiiane | er, same thing as primer at least |
18:30.45 | Primer | quite practical |
18:30.50 | neenee | I know, I noticed the domain |
18:30.56 | neenee | Thanks for replying though :) |
18:31.33 | Primer | note that it's missing some of the newer content still |
18:31.41 | Primer | like the epic Medallion of the Alliance |
18:31.57 | Primer | S4 gear... |
18:32.50 | khangg_ | Anyone? :S |
18:33.04 | Primer | khangg_: people use default action bars?! |
18:33.21 | khangg_ | heh that's true :P i'm actually using lucidity |
18:34.39 | Gnarfoz | neenee: BankItems does that afaik? :) |
18:34.51 | Xinhuan | hi AckisWork, great to see you back ;p |
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18:35.21 | AckisWork | hi Xinhuan <3 |
18:35.25 | Primer | so who here works on pitbull? |
18:35.31 | Aeyan | Hey, in Indy |
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18:35.36 | Aeyan | Err, it's |
18:35.38 | Industrial | hai, im back :D |
18:35.48 | Aeyan | Ello |
18:35.57 | Stanzilla | Primer: ckknight |
18:36.00 | Industrial | Quit wow for a while to play Age of Conan but it turns out aoc is bugged like hell. |
18:36.02 | Aerr | http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08284/wowscrnshot_071008_135937406.jpg yay doomwalker |
18:36.04 | Aerr | lol |
18:36.07 | Primer | no one else other than him? |
18:36.08 | Xinhuan | aoc sucks |
18:36.10 | Primer | I knew he worked on it |
18:36.12 | Xinhuan | i played to lvl 20 so far |
18:36.13 | AckisWork | oh hai Industrial |
18:36.18 | Industrial | o hai AckisWork |
18:36.19 | Aeyan | Hehe, it's good to get away from WoW from time to time |
18:36.20 | Xinhuan | the questing isn't any better than wow! |
18:36.21 | Primer | but I thought someone else also did |
18:36.21 | Dashkal | Industrial: You can't walk over that bamboo stick lying in the ground! |
18:36.27 | Phay | hi, im looking to move my stance bar up but no matter wha ti try , i simply cant do it :( |
18:36.31 | Xinhuan | and the combos you have to press (1, 2, 3) is meh |
18:36.34 | Phay | for my pet bar i use: |
18:36.38 | Phay | PetActionButton1:ClearAllPoints() |
18:36.39 | Phay | PetActionButton1:SetPoint("CENTER", MultiBarLeftButton3, "CENTER", 0, 45) |
18:36.50 | Phay | yet if i do that with my stance bar it simply doesnt work |
18:36.55 | Industrial | I rolled a char 3 times to conclude it sucked ass 3 times |
18:36.56 | Dashkal | I kind of like the combo bit, and the directionals, but not nearly enough to give up wow over |
18:36.57 | Phay | can any1 tell me wat im doin wrong? |
18:36.59 | Industrial | so i canceled my account |
18:37.02 | Industrial | all level 40ish |
18:37.05 | Industrial | :\ |
18:37.10 | Dashkal | Ranger was amazingly bad |
18:37.16 | Industrial | ranger pwns in pvp |
18:37.18 | Industrial | :P |
18:37.26 | ckknight | Primer: what's up? |
18:37.28 | Dashkal | I won't argue, but I couldn't for the life of me get the feel for it |
18:37.33 | Dashkal | Just felt... wrong to me |
18:37.42 | Zyndrome | http://abduzeedo.com/first-international-trailer-max-payne |
18:37.44 | Zyndrome | oh snap! D: |
18:37.49 | Industrial | you cant turn around and move as much as in wow |
18:37.51 | Arrowmaster | Phay: it gets reshown by the blizzard ui |
18:38.08 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
18:38.09 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
18:38.15 | Primer | ckknight: just curious as to how hard it would be to make pitbull save the group positions per profile? I'm willing to do it myself if you tell me "it's rather easy" |
18:38.33 | ckknight | what does it do now that you don't like? |
18:38.45 | Primer | it doesn't save group positions |
18:38.53 | Primer | per profile |
18:39.04 | ckknight | it does it globally, then? |
18:39.08 | Primer | yes |
18:39.15 | Phay | arrowmaster: ok thanks for ure help, im the first one to admit im not amazing with lua, but how can i combat that problem? |
18:39.30 | Phay | not my coding skills the stance bar problem XD |
18:39.47 | Industrial | Zyndrome: ho shi- the shot with the gun and show on it was nice :-) |
18:40.19 | Aeyan | Zyndrome: The hell is that at the end? |
18:40.20 | Zyndrome | enters bullet time to bring you the next message |
18:40.22 | Zyndrome | snow* |
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18:41.48 | Primer | This goes back to my wanting separate profiles for 10/25/40 mans. I tried setting these up, where each unit frame is differently sized and each group has different spacing/buff size/locations, and it was a clusterfuck |
18:41.52 | Aeyan | No, the gargoyle/angel thing =P |
18:42.04 | Aeyan | Then again, Max is seriously hopped up on my painkillers |
18:42.05 | Primer | since the group positions weren't saved |
18:42.22 | Aeyan | ...on some |
18:42.29 | Aeyan | That was an odd typo |
18:42.31 | Zyndrome | angels and valkyries could be a dream sequence or to emphasis a moment :S |
18:42.44 | Aeyan | Yeah, could be |
18:43.29 | Primer | I'm also not sure if buff locations/sized/prefs are saved. I don't want buffs in 25 mans, and I don't want buffs or debuffs in 40 mans |
18:44.03 | Primer | ideally, everything would be saved |
18:44.12 | Primer | per profile :) |
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18:46.24 | Primer | then all I need to do is write an addon to switch profiles when it detects: Kara or WSG (switch to 10 man) Hyjal/BT/AB/EOTS (switch to 25 man) and AV (40) |
18:47.08 | Primer | and I would jizz from being so happy |
18:47.11 | Aeyan | Yeah, actually looking again, those things are all through the trailer |
18:47.14 | Aeyan | Must be for effect |
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18:47.33 | Primer | pictures ckknight furiously typing these changes into pitbull right now! |
18:47.45 | ckknight | Primer: no, I'm at work |
18:47.50 | Primer | so? I'm at work too |
18:47.58 | ckknight | I can't code addons at work |
18:48.03 | ckknight | not 'sposeda |
18:48.04 | Aerr | lol! |
18:48.19 | Primer | ckknight: how hard of a change do you foresee this being? |
18:48.33 | ckknight | shrugs |
18:48.35 | ckknight | probably freakishly easy |
18:49.51 | Primer | that's what I was thinking |
18:51.22 | Primer | I just wouldn't know where to start and would probably spend hours trying to implement it, whereas you, who are familiar with the code, would only take a few minutes, presumably |
18:51.47 | ckknight | I also have so many other things to do :-( |
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18:52.26 | Primer | ok, I'll check out the code and take a look then |
18:52.34 | Primer | perhaps you can tell me where to start? What file? |
18:52.58 | ckknight | the main one |
18:53.05 | ckknight | no modules involve |
18:53.07 | ckknight | involved* |
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18:55.46 | Primer | svn...soooo....slooooowwww |
18:57.39 | Dashkal | git-svn clone :p |
18:57.50 | Dashkal | (so not serious) |
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19:05.00 | Wraithan | vnc vs nx opinions? |
19:05.11 | Wraithan | oops wrong channel |
19:08.54 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78192 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
19:08.54 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
19:08.54 | CIA-44 | - fix icon bug |
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19:20.35 | AckisWork | http://www.startribune.com/local/24179694.html?location_refer=Most%20Viewed:Homepage:8 |
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19:23.37 | Jygga | has somebody experience with "enterprise quality" hard discs for raid fileservers? |
19:24.21 | Jygga | hard to tell which brand to go without experience :) |
19:27.28 | Primer | ckknight: so in pitbull, a "layout" is simply what a unit frame looks like? |
19:27.39 | ckknight | yep, Primer |
19:27.42 | Primer | ok |
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19:40.55 | CIA-44 | 03julith * r78193 10GoodTarget/GoodTarget.lua: |
19:40.55 | CIA-44 | GoodTarget: |
19:40.55 | CIA-44 | - fixed bug that "disable party frame" is not stored after reload |
19:40.55 | CIA-44 | - added "click-through-able but not click-to-target-able"-mode for party frames |
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19:46.49 | NeoTron | AckisWork: the amazing thing is that two people voted that it should be a ok to do that |
19:47.06 | AckisWork | that's what scared me |
19:47.20 | AckisWork | plus the line about 2 guys going to the cemetary with a shovel, and a box of condoms... |
19:48.09 | NeoTron | yeah |
19:48.27 | NeoTron | I mean it's outrageous... |
19:48.42 | NeoTron | ...that they didn't think to bring lube. |
19:48.54 | NeoTron | and with that pleasant thought I will go get lunhc. |
19:49.07 | AckisWork | heh |
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19:58.11 | Xinhuan | is there a lock called tiz in your guild ackis |
19:58.43 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r78194 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ (ARLLocals-enGB.lua ARLLocals-ruRU.lua): |
19:58.43 | CIA-44 | AckisRecipeList: |
19:58.43 | CIA-44 | - Copy and paste enUS -> ruRU as a template |
19:58.43 | CIA-44 | - Update enGB |
19:58.43 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
19:58.52 | AckisWork | yes there used to be |
19:58.57 | Xinhuan | used to be? |
19:58.58 | AckisWork | they quit |
19:59.11 | Xinhuan | because? |
19:59.23 | AckisWork | just stopped playing wow from what I understand... left before I joined |
19:59.33 | AckisWork | they're account was whored out for use though |
19:59.35 | Xinhuan | one of my friends said he was talking to tiz |
19:59.40 | Xinhuan | just 2 days ago |
19:59.46 | Xinhuan | logged on your server just to chat |
19:59.49 | Xinhuan | about KJ and arena |
19:59.53 | AckisWork | hmm |
20:00.03 | AckisWork | maybe he's back, I haven't logged in in about a week |
20:00.10 | AckisWork | or maybe another toon |
20:01.33 | NeoTron | I was disappointed by my health on twins |
20:01.38 | NeoTron | I only had 21331 health |
20:01.53 | NeoTron | wonder how I can get 6 more so I can be 21337 for my own good |
20:01.56 | AckisWork | casual |
20:02.02 | Xinhuan | isn't 15k enough ~_~ |
20:02.13 | NeoTron | more is better |
20:02.19 | NeoTron | 15k might be enough |
20:03.58 | NeoTron | but I like to push things too |
20:04.13 | NeoTron | I have 15.3k health unbuffed |
20:04.16 | AckisWork | more isn't better |
20:04.21 | AckisWork | instead of more stam, put on more dps |
20:04.29 | Xinhuan | u may lose stuff like damage/threat |
20:04.39 | Xinhuan | and spellhit |
20:04.49 | AckisWork | add more spirit also imo |
20:05.25 | NeoTron | I have 190 something spell hit (maxed out with shammy), and sufficient dps stats to put out 50% more threat than needed |
20:05.38 | NeoTron | I think I'm good thank you |
20:05.49 | NeoTron | and we killed them with like 30s on the timer with 11 healers |
20:06.13 | NeoTron | and during a double shadow fury event I dropped below 10k health |
20:07.06 | NeoTron | not like i'll beat any dps meters with searing pain anyway |
20:08.02 | NeoTron | felmyst staff, t6 pants and chest geared for stamina does wonders for your health |
20:08.08 | AckisWork | if you're high on threat, toss a CoD on the other one? :P |
20:08.19 | NeoTron | hmm |
20:08.24 | NeoTron | I put CoE on her |
20:08.38 | NeoTron | so we have CoE/CoR/CoS up |
20:08.48 | AckisWork | toss a shadow bolt or two? :P hehe |
20:08.48 | NeoTron | come 2.4.3 that is certainly a good option |
20:09.17 | NeoTron | I can't really, since my haste isn't quite enough to cast a SB between moving and her casts.. except when she does something else |
20:09.29 | NeoTron | yep I'll try to do that next time |
20:09.52 | NeoTron | managed to get meleed in a perfect phase 2 last night too. that sucked |
20:10.02 | AckisWork | if you're ahead on threat, etc, think of ways to maximize dps on the first kill target |
20:10.03 | NeoTron | really bad timing getting shadow nova |
20:10.34 | NeoTron | mind you, as long as people die, there's not exactly any dps issues in this fight |
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20:11.05 | AckisWork | 30 seconds saved on that boring fight is better than nothing :P |
20:11.12 | NeoTron | although it is a fight where hunters excel since, even with two druids, threat is a limiting factor |
20:11.56 | AckisWork | only on the first one |
20:12.00 | NeoTron | ironically hunter pulled aggro in one attempt, likely due to omen missing a FD resist or so |
20:12.07 | NeoTron | his FD was still 15s on cooldown |
20:13.04 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r78195 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
20:13.04 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
20:13.04 | CIA-44 | - added Season 3 Nether Drake |
20:13.04 | CIA-44 | - added missing Tyrael ID |
20:13.14 | Avrys | Anyone know much about HeadCount, specifically it's eqDKP export? |
20:13.52 | NeoTron | only know it appeared around the same time I got MagicDKP into a working order |
20:14.11 | Avrys | For some reason my eqDKP is not finding any persons or loot in the parse =/ |
20:17.11 | NeoTron | eqdkp import/export is really horrible |
20:17.22 | NeoTron | I had to go through some really bad hacks to get MagicDKP to export properly |
20:24.32 | Avrys | Bleh. |
20:25.04 | Avrys | Are there any other attendance tracking bits that run off PHP? My guild uses loot council but we really want an objective way to track attendance |
20:26.04 | erikh | Avrys: phpraid |
20:26.19 | erikh | it's a colossal pain in the ass to use though. |
20:26.55 | NeoTron | there is a hosted DKP tracking site I don't rememebr now |
20:26.57 | Dashkal | yay fed |
20:27.01 | NeoTron | it can import "eqdkp" stuff |
20:27.10 | erikh | it'd be neat to write something that handles that and parses a savedvariables list, but A) i'm not in a guild that uses dkp and b) i wouldn't write it in php |
20:27.12 | Dashkal | and... thanks for that link AckisWork *yech* |
20:27.14 | NeoTron | rather ctrt |
20:27.31 | erikh | dunno, our guildmaster still tracks the stuff on dkpsystem.com, maybe that's it |
20:27.42 | erikh | I think he just keeps it around for justification when he overrides a roll |
20:27.51 | NeoTron | I plan to, bu haven't yet, add a sane export format from MagicDKP |
20:28.17 | NeoTron | and add some personally uses import tool for it (not planning to make a new public importer for EQDKP :-) |
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20:29.04 | erikh | wouldn't parsing the savedvariables be a lot simpler? |
20:29.27 | erikh | err, than writing a separate export tool that is. |
20:29.39 | NeoTron | no |
20:29.54 | NeoTron | because just being ni the saved variables doesn't mean I want to import it |
20:30.10 | NeoTron | and it probably wouldn't be easier either |
20:31.19 | erikh | so, err, is there some magic "write stuff to disk" function that blizz left in the game? |
20:31.42 | Avrys | erikh - Yea, looked at phpraid but it looks like too much of a pain in the ass |
20:32.34 | Avrys | NeoTron - What all does MagicDKP track? If it's eqDKP output works and it tracks attendance / waitlist / offline / loot I'll just use that :p |
20:35.03 | NeoTron | Avrys: I track events, loot and attendees / standby for the event (attendees/standby are exported in one list - hacked my importer to separate them but alas) |
20:35.28 | NeoTron | offline is not used. Standby is tracked either by people in group 6-8 or by peopl einstalling MagicDKP_Client and clicking accept when an event is called |
20:37.40 | NeoTron | note that uit's not really made for loot council type tracking |
20:37.43 | NeoTron | NRT might be better for that |
20:37.48 | NeoTron | for example |
20:38.46 | Diao | hmm |
20:38.50 | Diao | the new wowhead talent calcs |
20:39.00 | Diao | there's too many good talents for prot warrs.. we can't go far enough into arms for imp tc... |
20:39.06 | Diao | i guess the arms/fury warriors will have to imp tc for us |
20:39.25 | Avrys | NRT? I'll give it a look-see |
20:39.48 | Dashkal | Diao: I feel you there. Feral druids got even more bloated... |
20:39.49 | Avrys | We've been having some suspicions lately of people showing up for only bosses and zones they want shit from, and we need some proof |
20:39.56 | Diao | 58 points in prot |
20:39.59 | Diao | and i still feel like it's not enough |
20:40.02 | NeoTron | Diao: lol@ dps warriors using TC :P |
20:40.03 | Diao | there are more talents i want to get |
20:40.09 | Diao | but i can't give up imp HS, parry, or cruelty |
20:40.10 | NeoTron | and be happy |
20:40.15 | Diao | which is 13 guaranteed points |
20:40.17 | Diao | :( |
20:40.22 | NeoTron | warlocks still have to pick up filler talents for a l80 fire nuke build |
20:40.33 | Dashkal | I'm having similar problems with the feral-but-in-resto talents |
20:40.46 | Diao | i designed a pure raid spec |
20:40.51 | Diao | but it's pretty terrible for instances |
20:40.55 | Diao | since you lose vigilance and safeguard |
20:40.59 | Diao | which are pretty big in 5 mans |
20:41.13 | Dashkal | But I'm just sad that I lost my hybrid tank/dps spec. Can't do it anymore. DPS or Tank and compromise on the other |
20:41.25 | Diao | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LAZVZVctMe0zfecgzAo <- raid tank spec imo |
20:41.26 | VonhintenHOME` | As a druid? |
20:41.31 | Diao | that's the best i can come up with |
20:41.34 | Diao | for warriors |
20:41.35 | Aeyan | Vigilance is my new 5 man best friend |
20:41.35 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: If you're talking to me, yes |
20:41.35 | Aeyan | Hehe |
20:41.56 | VonhintenHOME` | Dash, I dunno what you're talking about, last I saw, the druid tree looked perfect |
20:42.22 | Aeyan | Spec'ing feral is not as perfect as it used to be |
20:42.25 | VonhintenHOME` | I put together a spec that included everything you could want for tanking and DPS |
20:42.39 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: you're missing stuff |
20:42.42 | Aeyan | Bleh, prove it =P |
20:42.45 | Diao | 1/46/14 is the current "good spec" isn't it? |
20:42.47 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: I found myself having to compromise a bit if I took resto down to master shapeshifter |
20:42.47 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: that's all |
20:42.47 | Diao | for 70s |
20:43.02 | NivFreak | Diao: yea... |
20:43.02 | VonhintenHOME` | You are talking about L80 trees right? |
20:43.05 | Dashkal | yes |
20:43.06 | NeoTron | yes |
20:43.19 | NivFreak | Diao: this was the best I could do |
20:43.22 | NivFreak | Diao: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0cZZVctMe0zcesguAo |
20:43.24 | NeoTron | you will not have a perfect tank + dps tree in wotlk |
20:43.39 | Diao | losing cruelty hurts a lot NivFreak |
20:43.40 | NivFreak | and I'm not happy with it |
20:43.41 | Diao | :( |
20:43.49 | Diao | i skipped vigilance/safeguard for a reason |
20:43.50 | Diao | since i rarely do 5 mans |
20:43.51 | NivFreak | I run 2/5 atm |
20:43.59 | NivFreak | few people touch my threat |
20:44.00 | NivFreak | but yes |
20:44.00 | Dashkal | I'm sad about that, but I'll survive. My druid will be pure DPS and my DK will swap into tanking |
20:44.02 | Diao | and it would be worthless in raids |
20:44.07 | NivFreak | keep in mind |
20:44.09 | Diao | unless there are bosses that snare/tauntable |
20:44.14 | NivFreak | incite will help |
20:44.18 | NivFreak | where you lose cruelty |
20:44.21 | Dashkal | if they do the talent swapping thing I've heard of (unconfirmed), I'll have my druid swap into resto |
20:44.24 | Diao | yeah |
20:44.30 | Diao | but i'd still rather have 20% extra crit |
20:44.32 | Diao | than 15% :p |
20:44.37 | NivFreak | sure |
20:44.42 | NivFreak | but you have to lose something |
20:44.48 | Diao | ya |
20:44.48 | NivFreak | and cruelty is the first thing I trade |
20:44.54 | Diao | well |
20:44.55 | Diao | i could do 2/5 cruelty |
20:44.56 | NivFreak | it sucks though |
20:44.58 | Diao | and pick up imp tc |
20:45.01 | NivFreak | I think it's 10tps per point for me |
20:45.01 | NivFreak | atm |
20:45.06 | Diao | 11/2/58 |
20:45.19 | Diao | i honestly cannot think of any use for vigilance/safeguard in a raid situation |
20:45.20 | Diao | ever |
20:45.26 | Dashkal | That said, I'm glad I can't have a perfect spec in one regard: there's enough iffy things that there's room for a little bit of play in talent selection without gimping myself. Anything that blurs the cookie cutter specs is a good thing. |
20:45.44 | NivFreak | vig/safeguard are hot |
20:45.51 | NivFreak | you'll find plenty of chances to use thoise |
20:46.19 | VonhintenHOME` | Druid: http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxhGsfrkVhoAzAo0Eczb |
20:46.27 | Diao | we'll see :p |
20:46.43 | Diao | we'll find out when we ding 80 and see how the raid encounters are designed |
20:46.55 | NivFreak | if nothing else, you have trash :P |
20:47.10 | VonhintenHOME` | Only thing you have to sacrafice is 1 pt in Savage Fury (not a big deal, can be shifted out of Thick Hide later if you get armor capped) and you don't get imp LotP |
20:47.49 | Diao | fury is fairly well designed |
20:47.52 | Diao | 17/54 spec |
20:47.54 | Diao | lose 2 points in precision |
20:48.02 | Dashkal | the loss of imp lotp is something I'll feel |
20:48.03 | Diao | and arms seems ok.. |
20:48.07 | Dashkal | the healers like it when I bring that |
20:48.15 | Diao | 54/14/3 probably |
20:48.16 | VonhintenHOME` | oh come on, it doesn't do that much |
20:48.17 | Diao | if i do go into arms |
20:48.27 | Dashkal | It lets the raid healer relax that little bit more |
20:48.32 | VonhintenHOME` | no way |
20:48.34 | Aeyan | I'm not particularly crazy about the highend arms talents |
20:48.42 | Dashkal | your experience obviously differs from mine |
20:48.44 | Diao | neither am i |
20:48.44 | VonhintenHOME` | it has such a nominal impact, a small heal every 6 seconds |
20:48.59 | Diao | but bladestorm is worth it |
20:49.04 | Dashkal | The key here is it's free. No mana cost, no attention from a healer |
20:49.05 | Diao | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LGhhzIbqMfdif0tVVzhZ0h |
20:49.11 | Diao | that's the arms build i'd go with |
20:49.13 | Diao | if i went arms |
20:49.16 | Diao | for pvp |
20:49.21 | Dashkal | Not saying I won't go without it, but I'll miss it |
20:49.40 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, it will be missed, especially when you're out farming stuff on your own |
20:49.52 | Dashkal | oh for solo leveling I won't even consider not taking it |
20:49.56 | Dashkal | but that's different |
20:49.56 | Aeyan | I'm sure the rage usage would be prohibitive, but you could totally bust out MS and BT, hehe |
20:49.56 | Diao | imp lotp is for solo/5 mans |
20:50.02 | Diao | it's not that great in raids |
20:50.04 | VonhintenHOME` | but, something has to give to get omen and master shapeshifter |
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20:50.11 | Diao | i usually have a feral druid in my group when i'm MTing |
20:50.12 | Dashkal | for solo leveling I won't bother with tank-only powers either |
20:50.15 | Diao | and ALL of the lotp procs are overheal |
20:50.19 | Diao | since i'm topped off almost all the time |
20:50.38 | Dashkal | and you're right, something does have to give |
20:50.59 | Diao | um |
20:51.01 | Aeyan | I'm not even sure I can begin to comprehend the awesomeness of the priest talent Serendipity in action =P |
20:51.04 | Aeyan | Even though I rarely heal |
20:51.04 | NeoTron | Infected Wounds seems pretty OP to me. reduce attack/movement speed by up to 50%? |
20:51.07 | Diao | why would you get king of the jungle |
20:51.08 | Diao | for pve |
20:51.13 | NeoTron | that's like two thunderclaps stacked |
20:51.14 | VonhintenHOME` | Neo, no way that'll work in PVE |
20:51.15 | Diao | isn't enrage on a bear only when you use the enrage skill |
20:51.35 | NeoTron | thunderclap works, the succubus effect works.. |
20:51.56 | Dashkal | If that works in PvE I'll have that talent for sure |
20:51.56 | NeoTron | guess we'll see but if it does work that's insanely good |
20:52.12 | Dashkal | but I'm not expecting it to. Much as I'd like it |
20:52.15 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I didn't include it on the assumption that it wouldn't have an effect |
20:52.28 | Dashkal | Berserk I'll give up omen for to level |
20:52.41 | NeoTron | they must have changed it since I last saw it though |
20:52.44 | Diao | is there any reason to pick up king of the jungle |
20:52.46 | Diao | for raids |
20:52.47 | NeoTron | there was more stuff in there before |
20:53.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Diao, lol, king of the jungle is awesome |
20:53.02 | Diao | enrage lowers armor to give you rage doesn't it |
20:53.03 | Dashkal | Diao It makes tiger's fury worth something |
20:53.03 | Industrial | why do you need aggro management for leveling? |
20:53.04 | NeoTron | 15% more dmg => more threat? |
20:53.11 | Diao | yeah but you're risking what |
20:53.13 | Diao | 40% of your armor? |
20:53.14 | Industrial | just kill shit |
20:53.22 | VonhintenHOME` | tiger's fury's being changed, it will be worth something already |
20:53.30 | VonhintenHOME` | That talent will make it retarded |
20:53.32 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: oh? Must read the skills page for it |
20:53.55 | Diao | oh it's for cat dps |
20:53.56 | Diao | i see |
20:53.58 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, it's getting a big boost, and that talent turns it into a free 60 energy on top of it |
20:54.07 | Dashkal | ooo, those numbers are very nice now |
20:54.29 | Industrial | url? |
20:54.35 | Dashkal | Industrial: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=701 |
20:54.42 | Diao | btw |
20:54.44 | Diao | is it just me |
20:54.49 | Diao | or did they mess up disc talent tree again |
20:54.55 | Diao | i thought they were trying to fix it |
20:54.56 | Diao | not make it worse |
20:55.05 | Dashkal | Cannot comment, I don't play priest |
20:55.17 | Chompers | oh no it's RoS time :< |
20:55.21 | VonhintenHOME` | The druid is gonna be getting a nerf imo.. it has to. Look at all the stacking passive damage increase... |
20:55.23 | NeoTron | Diao: I'm drooling over a heavy disc priest in the raid |
20:55.27 | VonhintenHOME` | druid threat is going to be retarded |
20:55.29 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: no argument here |
20:55.31 | Diao | the problem with deep disc is |
20:55.35 | Diao | everything 31 points and below |
20:55.36 | Dashkal | But then, we may become the "threat" tank |
20:55.38 | Diao | is basically worthless for healing |
20:55.43 | Diao | except ds/imp ds |
20:56.07 | Diao | then the tier 10/11 talents are just pure awesome |
20:56.09 | Diao | for healing |
20:56.22 | NeoTron | disc priest => tank survivalist |
20:56.27 | NeoTron | make th tank not die |
20:56.35 | Diao | yeah |
20:56.37 | Diao | except |
20:56.41 | Diao | only like |
20:56.43 | Diao | 2 talents cover that |
20:56.45 | Diao | everything else is crap |
20:56.50 | NeoTron | it's the top tier stuff |
20:56.54 | NeoTron | I agre |
20:57.00 | NeoTron | the mana regen is nice too I'd say |
20:57.12 | Diao | rapture is very nice |
20:57.18 | Diao | penance is worthless (imo) |
20:57.20 | Diao | channeled heal? |
20:57.36 | Diao | you're better off casting a GH |
20:57.45 | Diao | in that 3 sec, than channeling a 670-756 per sec heal |
20:57.56 | NeoTron | depends on scaling |
20:58.03 | NeoTron | it's instant cast |
20:58.05 | NeoTron | which GH is not |
20:58.14 | Diao | instant cast, 10 sec cd, channeled |
20:58.21 | Diao | which means its scaling is terrible |
20:58.25 | Diao | unless they use a custom modifer |
20:58.27 | NeoTron | it's like casting 3 pw:shield in a row |
20:58.28 | Diao | modifier* |
20:58.53 | Diao | eh |
20:58.56 | NeoTron | I agree it doesn't seem wonderful though |
20:58.58 | Diao | if they made it so you just cast it and let it tick |
20:59.01 | Diao | then i could see how it'd be good |
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20:59.07 | NeoTron | I'd probably say 50 disc 21 holy is the way to go |
20:59.09 | Diao | but having to stand in 1 place and channel for 3 sec |
20:59.11 | Diao | is so bad |
20:59.13 | Aeyan | Bleh |
20:59.22 | Diao | yeah, one 50/21/0 priest |
20:59.24 | Aeyan | Serendipity - "Downranking is for pussies." |
20:59.25 | Diao | the rest 20/51 |
20:59.45 | Diao | or whatever |
20:59.47 | Diao | 18/53 |
20:59.49 | Diao | 19/52 |
21:00.21 | NeoTron | Grace, Rapture, Pain Supression, Power Infusion, are imho great |
21:00.22 | Diao | never mind! they shrank a lot of disc talents into fewer points |
21:00.29 | NeoTron | Divine Aegis is a nice bonus |
21:00.47 | Aeyan | Yeah, the shrinking is a nice touch all throughout the priest trees |
21:00.55 | NeoTron | even reflective shield has a value if it increases threat to the recipient of the shield from the reflected damage |
21:01.18 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm kinda wondering what the top raid DPS rogue spec is gonna be... it looks like you can spec standard combat 70 spec, and then go all the way down assassination for Seal Fate and Cold Blood, which has the potential to be reaaaally nasty |
21:01.19 | NeoTron | Diao: right. I can't see there beign room for more than one 50 disc priest |
21:01.33 | Diao | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bVcb0sZfVxccMVVhVIst |
21:01.35 | Diao | 14/57/0 priest |
21:01.36 | Diao | for the rest |
21:01.50 | VonhintenHOME` | But, a dagger ambush/backstab spec may have some high output, with Shadow Dance |
21:02.12 | VonhintenHOME` | Or a combat spec going down to Prey on the Weak |
21:02.14 | Aeyan | The assassination tree as it stands is totally sickhouse for PvP, heh. |
21:02.16 | Diao | um |
21:02.22 | Diao | i think murder spree |
21:02.26 | Diao | all the way into combat |
21:02.26 | Diao | 51 |
21:02.28 | NeoTron | skipping holy spec seems like a reasonbly big tradeoff |
21:02.29 | Diao | is probably best |
21:02.42 | Diao | i don't like relying on crit heals on priests, so i've always skipped holy spec personally |
21:02.43 | NeoTron | but I dunno what to skip to get it |
21:02.50 | Diao | but others have a different playstyle |
21:02.52 | VonhintenHOME` | Diao, maybe, but think about having seal fate as combat :) |
21:02.57 | Diao | eh |
21:03.02 | Diao | doesn't seem that great honestly as combat |
21:03.07 | Diao | isn't the standard combat rotation |
21:03.11 | Diao | 4 snd/5 rup? |
21:03.16 | Dashkal | I do not like Hunger for Blood... |
21:03.22 | Diao | what would you use the seal fate on? |
21:03.30 | Dashkal | I do not like it sam-i-am |
21:03.30 | Aeyan | Hunger for Blood needs a nerf. |
21:03.32 | Aeyan | Just a bit. |
21:03.44 | VonhintenHOME` | Diao, Cold Blood+5pt Envenom mid combat |
21:03.53 | Diao | eh |
21:03.55 | Aeyan | It's not even out yet and it needs a nerf. =P |
21:03.58 | Diao | i dunno |
21:04.00 | Dashkal | FF/Rake is how I kept those bloddy rogues visible... |
21:04.01 | Diao | high damage |
21:04.03 | NeoTron | spell warding I suppose is the only one |
21:04.04 | Diao | but you lose your deadly poison stacks |
21:04.06 | Diao | which kinda sucks |
21:04.16 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, but it's a guaranteed crit |
21:04.18 | Dashkal | But then, Feral Berserk looks a touch powerful too |
21:04.28 | Dashkal | ok, actually it looks broken as all hell |
21:04.52 | Aeyan | Well, a lot of stuff does at this point. |
21:04.58 | VonhintenHOME` | The only reason Envenom loses out normally is because it can also NOT crit, meaning you trade your ticking stack for equivalent damage and have to build the stack again |
21:04.59 | Aeyan | Hopefully they'll work on that |
21:05.06 | Dashkal | true. Put it all together and it might just work :p |
21:05.16 | VonhintenHOME` | If you can guarantee an envenom crit, it's WAAAY in envenom's favor |
21:05.18 | Diao | well |
21:05.20 | Diao | 2 minutes on murder spree |
21:05.23 | Diao | vs 3 minutes on CB envenom |
21:05.25 | Diao | i think murder spree wins :P |
21:05.33 | Dashkal | The spec I'm most watching is DK/Blood, and it doesn't look nearly as flashy as the other revamped top tiers |
21:05.44 | Aeyan | PvE is well and good but I see a lot of I-WIN buttons out there for PvP =P |
21:06.03 | Aeyan | Not that the game was really tuned towards that (at least, until arenas...) |
21:06.13 | Diao | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboeoZMIV0rVzxMGoVzAo |
21:06.17 | Diao | i'd probably do taht for combat rogue in pve |
21:06.56 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I think DK in general looks flashy and cool in comparision |
21:07.05 | VonhintenHOME` | You'll be able to easily keep up a 5s/5r, and throw in a cold blood envenom (blade flurried, btw) as well as spend extra points on eviscerates or play the lottery with envenom again |
21:07.15 | Dashkal | In general yes. No argument. I'm just noticing that the top talents aren't |
21:07.24 | Dashkal | specifically blood |
21:07.32 | Dashkal | While cool, it's something akin to a temp pet |
21:08.09 | Diao | btw |
21:08.10 | Dashkal | Unless something drastic happens, I'm going to have to really fight myself to make my druid my first played char for new content... |
21:08.16 | Diao | seal fate cannot beat out prey on the weak |
21:08.18 | Diao | there's just no way |
21:08.25 | Diao | 25% increased damage at *all* times |
21:08.27 | Diao | on every crit |
21:08.29 | VonhintenHOME` | it's only normal melee attacks |
21:08.32 | VonhintenHOME` | not specials |
21:08.35 | Dashkal | Prey is OP in PvE |
21:08.37 | Diao | yeah but 60% of your damage is white |
21:08.39 | Aeyan | Yeah, white damage only |
21:08.49 | Diao | assuming ~30%crit raid buffed |
21:09.04 | Dashkal | ooo, white crits only |
21:09.05 | Dashkal | nevermind |
21:09.08 | Dashkal | that's quite a bit less then |
21:09.09 | Diao | 18% of your damage comes from white crits |
21:09.25 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, we'll have to see how the numbers work out |
21:09.29 | Dashkal | lua> 100 * 0.18 * 1.25 |
21:09.30 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 22.5 |
21:09.31 | Aeyan | I would assume WotLK levels are going to be hitting rating %'s hard |
21:09.36 | Diao | 4.5% extra damage |
21:09.37 | Aeyan | Or crits are gonna be off the scale |
21:09.40 | Dashkal | 4.5% increase isn't all that much, not so OP |
21:09.49 | Dashkal | Not for a near top-tier talent |
21:09.51 | Diao | yeah but it's a 4.5% increase constantly |
21:09.56 | Arrowmaster | heh all these high tier rogue talents are nerfed from what they were previously |
21:09.57 | VonhintenHOME` | I was looking at deep combat as viable too, was just speculating having seal fate and cold blood (plus all the poison talents too) would be sweet |
21:10.08 | Arrowmaster | they were all fucking broken before they were so powerful |
21:10.15 | Diao | mutilate is looking to be decent for raids |
21:10.34 | Dashkal | Naturalist, second tier resto talent. +10% physical damage period |
21:10.35 | Diao | with cut to the chase and deadly brew |
21:10.39 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll never go mutilate again... the poison+back restriction sucks ass |
21:10.42 | Dashkal | All my damage is physical |
21:10.46 | Diao | just dual instant |
21:10.49 | Diao | = guaranteed deadly stacks |
21:10.52 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah Dashkal, it's sick |
21:10.55 | Diao | and use evisc instead of snd |
21:10.56 | Diao | or envenom |
21:11.04 | Diao | guarantee snd up at all times |
21:11.10 | VonhintenHOME` | Naturalist 10%, Master Shapeshifter 4% bear, King of the Jungle 15% bear enrage, Primal Aggression 10% Maul damage |
21:11.20 | Dashkal | We *sigh* need a nerf :p |
21:11.28 | Arrowmaster | heh cut to the chase used to be on any evis or envenom not just crits |
21:11.42 | Dashkal | Much as I bitched about my spec, this went a lil too far the other way |
21:11.47 | NeoTron | I still haven't seen a kitty druid do great dps relatively speaking (t6 level) |
21:11.59 | Dashkal | NeoTron: as it is now, we will |
21:12.22 | Dashkal | As for the bear DPS increase, I think it's by design |
21:12.28 | VonhintenHOME` | I dunno about t6, but t5 our ferals are doing nearly my dps (rogue) |
21:12.31 | Dashkal | Blues have gone on record stating they want tanks to do more damage |
21:12.35 | Diao | powershifting |
21:12.37 | Diao | but uh |
21:12.42 | Diao | are they trying to make sub pure daggers again |
21:12.48 | Diao | looks like the talents are heading that direction |
21:12.59 | NeoTron | Dashkal: you avoid think about the dps increases other classes will see |
21:13.17 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, take a look at Shadow Dance, and picture, every 2 minutes, 3 ambushes in a six second period :) |
21:13.18 | Dashkal | I rather like that trend. Less emphasis on artifically high-threat powers, more "honest" threat. But do keep us tanks below real dps classes |
21:13.26 | VonhintenHOME` | That spec has the potential to be good raid DPS |
21:13.28 | Codayus | Helps with farming. |
21:13.36 | Codayus | As well. |
21:13.46 | VonhintenHOME` | err, 9 sec person |
21:13.51 | Dashkal | I'd be happy with no need for lacerate, and just enough extra damage that our natural threat modifier was enough to keep us at the same TPS overall |
21:13.52 | VonhintenHOME` | person=period |
21:13.54 | NeoTron | reallty though warlocks get noting |
21:13.54 | Diao | lol |
21:14.05 | NeoTron | except we get a incinerate/immo spec that doesn't need to refresh immolate.. |
21:14.13 | Dashkal | Nevermind swipe being more threat, I consider that a bug in lacerate |
21:14.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah warlock talents are crap |
21:14.21 | NeoTron | pathetic in comparision to the goodies other classes get |
21:14.26 | Codayus | But they've been careful in the past to keep tanks from doing TOO much DPS. They've repeatedly tested some warrior changed which have not gone live because they'd be too powerful. (Example: Making devestate hit with both weapons) |
21:14.36 | Dashkal | PvP wise that chaos damage power of yours is _nasty_ |
21:14.41 | NeoTron | mind you a perma ticking immolate with a 25% more dmg buff + incinerate w/o having to worry about immolate is pretty good |
21:14.45 | NeoTron | but it's not THAT good |
21:14.46 | Dashkal | Rogues and paladins everywhere must be crying |
21:14.52 | Diao | locks don't need much buffs pvewise though |
21:14.59 | Diao | otherwise they'd have to buff mages a lot |
21:15.07 | Diao | since locks already basically destroy mages in every aspect |
21:15.18 | Arrowmaster | from the looks of the rogue talents theyll destroy locks in pve damage |
21:15.22 | Diao | only reason to bring a mage is for scorch debuff or int ;p |
21:15.25 | Diao | and food |
21:15.31 | Aeyan | Warlock 51 pt Affliction talent is wrong. |
21:15.34 | NeoTron | Diao: bad mages do bad yes but good mages ar competetive |
21:16.00 | Dashkal | I get the impression (I don't play one so this isn't from personal experience) that mages are broken rather than weak. Not well tuned |
21:16.00 | NeoTron | let me put it this way - it's easier to play a lock well than a mage |
21:16.00 | Diao | that's why locks are on average 200-300 dps higher than mages right :P |
21:16.04 | Diao | in top tier content |
21:16.07 | Diao | according to wwsscoreboard :O |
21:16.12 | Arrowmaster | Aeyan: by wrong you mean useless for group pve right? |
21:16.25 | NeoTron | wwsscoreboard is useless |
21:16.35 | Aeyan | Yes, but affliction has been weak in that respect for a long time |
21:16.48 | NeoTron | top locks typically have super buffed groups, don't have to do a debuff curse (using CoD instead) sometimes use a pet with a 1 hr cooldown etc |
21:17.12 | Diao | 1 hr cooldown pet? o_O |
21:17.17 | Diao | doomguard? |
21:17.19 | NeoTron | infernal |
21:17.26 | NeoTron | it adds close to 200 dps for 5 minutes |
21:17.27 | Arrowmaster | people use infernals? |
21:17.29 | Diao | oh |
21:17.34 | NeoTron | on Brutallus, sure |
21:17.40 | Arrowmaster | oh, not there yet |
21:18.00 | Diao | but yeah |
21:18.02 | NeoTron | only fight it's really useful on though since they take no dmg and can just stand there and chug away |
21:18.03 | Diao | they need to fix mages |
21:18.12 | Diao | since 2p t5 is STILL the best mage bonu |
21:18.13 | Diao | bonus* |
21:18.28 | NeoTron | that's an armor issue |
21:18.32 | Codayus | Heh, the neverending problem - set bonuses you can't give up... |
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21:18.38 | Diao | well |
21:18.42 | NeoTron | and I do honestly not see very many arcane mages with 4xt6, 2xt5 |
21:18.44 | Diao | when it's the only bonus that makes the class competitive |
21:18.56 | NeoTron | that's wrogn though |
21:19.15 | Dashkal | Could someone who managed physical DPS in raids comment on Blood Aura? |
21:19.20 | Dashkal | manages* |
21:19.22 | NeoTron | I'm not saying mages shouldn't be adjusted but they are not broken |
21:19.33 | Dashkal | 4% strength increase aura |
21:19.37 | Diao | what's blood aura do |
21:19.39 | NeoTron | but warlocks are a one trick pony. we do nothing but hit one button. for 10 minutes i fneed be |
21:19.41 | Diao | hm |
21:19.46 | Diao | that's pretty good for a standard setup |
21:19.47 | VonhintenHOME` | druids wear 2pc T4 for quite a while, Rogues 2pc T4, spriests wear crafted tailoring stuff into T6... |
21:19.50 | VonhintenHOME` | common problem |
21:19.51 | NeoTron | our trees suck |
21:19.58 | NeoTron | you HAVE to take 21 pt demo for a nuke build |
21:20.10 | Dashkal | It also buffs the self-heal of blood |
21:20.28 | Diao | hmm |
21:20.30 | NeoTron | and even if affliction was again competetive like in SSC/TK days, we still couldn't spec it due to running out of debuff slots |
21:20.32 | Diao | i can't really think of how you'd setup the group thoguh |
21:20.37 | Diao | unless you don't put rogues into the melee group |
21:20.42 | Diao | because for "maximum buff stacking" |
21:20.43 | Diao | you'd have |
21:20.49 | Dashkal | Well I imaging you'd stuff a blood DK in with ferals, rogues, and DPS warriors |
21:20.53 | Dashkal | or retadins |
21:20.56 | Diao | enh sham, dk, feral dru, arms war, ret pally |
21:21.00 | NeoTron | and if you want to talk about set bonuses, most warlock set bonuses are worthless |
21:21.01 | Diao | all of their buffs benefit each other |
21:21.14 | NeoTron | 4xt6 is an exception but the only one pretty much |
21:21.20 | Arrowmaster | by most you mean all but 4xt6 |
21:21.34 | Dashkal | So put one of each in a group? :p |
21:21.39 | NeoTron | t4 had that +dmg proc that was nice |
21:22.04 | NeoTron | t5 was useful when specced demo |
21:22.07 | Arrowmaster | what is this shadowflame spell |
21:22.07 | Diao | yeah Dashkal |
21:22.10 | Diao | but then the rogues would complain |
21:22.17 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: cone aoe |
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21:22.24 | Diao | since they get no buffs in that case lol |
21:22.29 | Diao | actually wait |
21:22.29 | NeoTron | like dragons breath but shadow dmg with fire dot I think |
21:22.32 | Diao | if windfury becomes raidwide |
21:22.33 | Diao | it won't even matter |
21:22.35 | Dashkal | But I'm not at all sure a 4% strength increase is even worth the talent points. How much would that actually help the other class' dps? |
21:22.36 | Diao | lol |
21:22.40 | Arrowmaster | t5 was useful when specced affliction to make sure i had the most raw healing done for every raid |
21:22.45 | Diao | 4% is probably 2-3% increased damage |
21:22.48 | Diao | since it stacks with kings |
21:22.48 | Dashkal | Windfury works in feral! Windfury works in feral! |
21:22.50 | Diao | it's actually 4.4% |
21:22.50 | Dashkal | dances |
21:23.05 | Diao | and you DO get a ret paladin for imp sanc aura |
21:23.10 | Diao | which is only 2% for party |
21:23.22 | Diao | plus cats get an additional 10% str from talents |
21:23.25 | Diao | so it'd be 4.8% for them |
21:23.29 | Diao | lol |
21:23.37 | Diao | basically, it's a solid buff that i'd take |
21:23.39 | VonhintenHOME` | So they're changing totems to be raidwide, but not other group based abilities? |
21:23.43 | Dashkal | kk good to know |
21:23.45 | Diao | supposedly yes |
21:23.48 | Diao | all totems will be raidwide |
21:24.01 | Diao | i'm hoping that battle/commanding will be the same as well |
21:24.04 | NeoTron | not all totems |
21:24.06 | Diao | because it would suck if not |
21:24.13 | NeoTron | Surently not tranquil air for example |
21:24.15 | Diao | oh |
21:24.16 | Diao | yeah |
21:24.22 | Dashkal | one thing that surprised me was that strength of earth / grace of air will be merged. That's either a buff or a nerf depending on if the new totem is earth or air... |
21:24.23 | Diao | but the "buff" totems will be i think |
21:24.27 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: any clue whats up with the imp shadowbolt description? i thought i heard they were nerfing imp shadowbolt to not effect peridioc damage sources but the description reads exactly how it works now |
21:24.32 | Diao | earth, air, or possibly both |
21:24.34 | Diao | hopefully it's earth |
21:24.49 | Dashkal | oh I do hope. str/agi/windfury will be amazing :) |
21:24.54 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: from what I understand your view is correct. perhaps the data is just cut and pasted |
21:25.03 | NeoTron | not affecting periodical damage, and 15 instead of 20% |
21:25.04 | Dashkal | And as a stright-up DPS buff, it's easier to balance against |
21:25.08 | NeoTron | imho enough to ignore it |
21:25.13 | NeoTron | and just go pure fire dps |
21:25.21 | NeoTron | going to be the best one for sure |
21:25.24 | Diao | yeah it will |
21:25.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah good by shadow priests |
21:25.26 | VonhintenHOME` | God, they have to be in balance hell at blizzard right now |
21:25.28 | Diao | melee groups will be great |
21:25.49 | Dashkal | I'm much looking forward to that. I'm sick of being at a disadvantage to those damn casters ;) |
21:25.54 | Diao | lol |
21:25.54 | NeoTron | shadow priests are buffed so their dps should be higher |
21:26.00 | Diao | there's a *few* fights where melee shine ;P |
21:26.11 | Dashkal | I've yet to progress enough to see one |
21:26.23 | Dashkal | Unless I'm not recognizing something in kara/early ZA |
21:26.25 | NeoTron | there are plenty of such fights |
21:26.29 | Aeyan | More DPS is good, but I hope they buff tank threat abilities in non-raid situations or I'm gonna get my ass stomped =P |
21:26.32 | Diao | mostly 25 mans |
21:26.37 | Dashkal | thought so |
21:26.44 | Dashkal | 25 mans own my face. I can do HKM and that's about it |
21:26.49 | Diao | vrak, solarian, tidewalker, lurker |
21:26.53 | Diao | all are great |
21:26.53 | Dashkal | Odly enough, I as a feral druid tank the saman |
21:26.56 | Diao | for melee |
21:27.01 | Diao | basically sit there and dps |
21:27.01 | Dashkal | and it works better than hunters or boomkins for some unknown reason |
21:27.10 | NeoTron | good 10 man melee fights: attumen, moroes, maiden especially, .. etc |
21:27.25 | Dashkal | Lurker... I swear half the raid thought spout should be embraced like the damn ZG poison... |
21:27.36 | Diao | lol |
21:27.40 | NeoTron | man SSC seems so far away |
21:27.46 | Dashkal | NeoTron: I can see it for attumen and marose. Maiden not so much in that it's a bitch on the healers to keep us up |
21:27.52 | Arrowmaster | havent been there forever |
21:28.01 | Dashkal | It _hurts_ standing in the glowy |
21:28.04 | Diao | get a better healer :D |
21:28.10 | Diao | shaman with chainheal or priest with coh |
21:28.16 | Dashkal | That would help |
21:28.19 | Dashkal | we have mostly pala healers |
21:28.20 | Diao | our melee just sit inside the consecrate and dps away |
21:28.33 | AckisWork | Diao: you don't waste CoH cooldowns on that crap :P |
21:28.35 | VonhintenHOME` | my guild killed vashj exactly 1 time, and we were never able to do it again... too many inconsistent raiders |
21:28.37 | Dashkal | Maiden is a bitch for pure-paladin heals |
21:28.44 | Diao | cooldowns? o_O |
21:28.49 | Diao | coh has no cd! |
21:28.49 | AckisWork | GCD |
21:28.54 | Diao | pffft |
21:29.01 | AckisWork | you toss out a few renews and autowand |
21:29.07 | AckisWork | keep PoM bouncing |
21:29.20 | Diao | when i play my priest |
21:29.24 | Diao | i just pom, renew tank |
21:29.24 | NeoTron | Dashkal: err. paladin just puts up blessing of sacrifice on a melee and keeps healing. why is that hard? |
21:29.25 | Diao | and spam coh |
21:29.45 | NeoTron | maiden is always topped by melee dpsers since they don't have to really run otu |
21:29.50 | Dashkal | NeoTron: I dunno. They do use sacrifice no problem, but I find myself as a melee DPS having to duck out and self-heal from time to time or I drop dead |
21:29.58 | Dashkal | Maybe they just fail? |
21:30.02 | NeoTron | they do |
21:30.02 | NeoTron | yes |
21:30.14 | Diao | yeah |
21:30.16 | Diao | that's pretty fail :P |
21:30.17 | Dashkal | I do absolutely love that fight from a pure-dps perspective |
21:30.21 | NeoTron | Iv'e done that fight with like 5 ppl in melee. it wasn't hard |
21:30.23 | Dashkal | I can out damage the rogue no problem on that fight alone |
21:30.23 | Diao | it's best as a warrior |
21:30.31 | Diao | since you get SO much rage from consecreaet |
21:30.32 | Dashkal | Nowhere else except maiden :p |
21:30.33 | Diao | consecrate* |
21:30.34 | Diao | wow i can't type |
21:30.45 | VonhintenHOME` | paladins are just lousy at healing raid damage |
21:31.09 | Dashkal | I did note that the one time I healed that fight I had little trouble keeping melee up, but I just had a lifebloom cycle going and it never ran out |
21:31.11 | VonhintenHOME` | plain and simple.. they need to throw pally's a bone |
21:31.12 | Diao | not when they're spellhasted :D |
21:31.38 | VonhintenHOME` | pally's got uberscrewed on the spirit buff... |
21:31.45 | VonhintenHOME` | now druids and priests have mana for days |
21:31.52 | Dashkal | Sadly we got stomped not cause of melee dealths, but because nobody could get the damn holy fire off *sigh* |
21:32.07 | vrak | i am great? ^_^ |
21:32.12 | NeoTron | what is fun about wotlk is that mages need to keep imp scorch up |
21:32.16 | NeoTron | too bad for them |
21:32.28 | Diao | yeah it's funny because paladins were supposed to be the "efficient" healer |
21:32.42 | Diao | but after the priest/druid buff they're now the least efficient except for maybe shaman |
21:32.58 | NeoTron | Dashkal: you did maiden without a dispeller? |
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21:33.08 | Dashkal | no, that time it was the specific dispeller who sucked |
21:33.41 | Dashkal | We skipped her that week and fortunately replaced the fail player with someone better for the back half |
21:33.53 | Dashkal | But I haven't healed on her again since |
21:34.08 | Dashkal | I'm usually prefered feral for my "sometimes a tank" offtanking :p |
21:34.12 | Arrowmaster | ive done maiden without a dispeller before |
21:34.28 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: How do you survive the holy fires? |
21:34.31 | VonhintenHOME` | We have a resto druid that has been quoted saying several times "nah, I don't drink anymore" |
21:34.32 | Diao | grounding totem :D |
21:34.34 | Arrowmaster | nobody got hit |
21:34.40 | Dashkal | ooo, nice |
21:34.52 | Arrowmaster | well only one holy fire got past the 2 grounding totems |
21:34.59 | Arrowmaster | and it hit me but i resisted it |
21:35.12 | Diao | or |
21:35.15 | Dashkal | good enough |
21:35.15 | Diao | you could bring purification pots |
21:35.16 | Diao | haha |
21:35.33 | Dashkal | purification pots? remind me to pack some of those if I ever heal on her again... |
21:35.33 | Arrowmaster | had 2 felhunters out that had nothing to dispell |
21:35.36 | VonhintenHOME` | Because literally she doesn't need to... she spams lifebloom all day and doesn't have mana problems. When she does get low, she pops innervate with her spirit staff on and gets like 18k mana from it |
21:35.40 | Dashkal | I do not want to die to that damn thing again |
21:36.05 | Diao | restorative also works i believe |
21:36.54 | Dashkal | I have mana problems when forced to heal, but that's only because my healing gear is blues still. I'm a feral first and rarely get to roll on heal stuff |
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21:45.43 | CIA-44 | 03phanx * r78196 10Automaton/modules/Repair.lua: |
21:45.43 | CIA-44 | Automaton: |
21:45.43 | CIA-44 | - Repair: allow shift-clicking to bypass auto-repair behavior. |
21:46.35 | AckisWork | VonhintenHOME`: I only need to drink when I have to buff the entire raid w/ fort and shadow |
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21:50.08 | NeoTron | Dashkal: this week in SWP we had three druids get their 2nd, maybe 3rd, t6 belt :-/ |
21:50.20 | NeoTron | and the tank cloak from twins went to a resto druid |
21:50.42 | Pkekyo| | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4895989618&sid=1 |
21:51.28 | NeoTron | at least out feral druid OT got the staff |
21:51.36 | NeoTron | next time that'll go to a resto druid too |
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21:52.20 | AckisWork | Pkekyo|: about 90% of my guild raids in less than full clothing :P |
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21:52.54 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: we lack vanq belts actually, want to trade against conq? |
21:53.14 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: please! |
21:53.33 | NeoTron | only t6 piece I still need now |
21:53.41 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Bah! Mind you I can't be jealous. I have no interest in putting in the time required to get into SWP |
21:53.54 | NeoTron | we have benefitted from extra loot |
21:54.11 | NeoTron | our elemental shaman went enhance when we needed him to. now he's elemental again but go resto for twins |
21:54.32 | NeoTron | with varied requirements (11 healers on twins, 5-6 on muru) it's nice when ppl can switch roles |
21:55.01 | NeoTron | and that resto druid with the cloak could likely tank SWP with a few upgrades if need be due to vacation or what not |
21:56.08 | AckisWork | I got the healing staff from KJ :P |
21:56.13 | AckisWork | that's all that matters |
21:59.01 | NeoTron | and then quit! traitor! |
22:00.43 | AckisWork | tehehe |
22:01.01 | AckisWork | my guild leader is so pissed at me |
22:01.28 | AckisWork | http://www.wowprogress.com/item/34337_Golden+Staff+of+the+Sin%27dorei World 11th for the staff heheh |
22:01.29 | NeoTron | I understand him to be honest |
22:01.31 | AckisWork | man I'm an asshole |
22:01.39 | AckisWork | if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have quit |
22:01.48 | NeoTron | we had a guy pick up the crafted caster gloves and caster shoulders of twins and then quit the next day |
22:02.01 | NeoTron | what clas do you play? |
22:02.22 | NeoTron | ah [priest |
22:02.41 | AckisWork | he's a rude prick, has been an asshole to my gf for the longest time, etc... she makes a post about how he won't talk to her about issues (after trying to talk to him repeatidly, talking to other officers etc) and he tells her that she won't be allowed in raids until she apologizes to him rofl |
22:02.52 | AckisWork | so I was like "I need a break" heh |
22:03.28 | NeoTron | well then I understand |
22:03.43 | NeoTron | too bad you're not an alliance druid ;-) |
22:03.49 | AckisWork | heh |
22:03.54 | AckisWork | I wouldn't transfer, I'm too lazy |
22:04.32 | AckisWork | I'll just quit |
22:04.32 | Dashkal | You need an alli druid? *snickers* |
22:04.32 | Dashkal | Too bad I don't have enough free time / inclination to actually raid |
22:04.34 | NeoTron | alliance RESTO druid.. with tier 6 gear ;-) |
22:04.37 | AckisWork | they need a package transfer deal... transfer toons, guilds, etc :P make it easier for me if I wanted to lol |
22:04.54 | Dashkal | Tier 6... just not happening on failstrom |
22:04.59 | nevcairiel | is a alliance druid with t6 gear |
22:05.08 | Funkeh` | zomg |
22:05.11 | NeoTron | I can't wait to get my ring made (Loop of Forged Power) |
22:05.19 | NeoTron | and then transfer it back to alliance ... |
22:05.30 | NeoTron | need to keep the time of that transfer sekrit! |
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22:06.21 | nevcairiel | i'll camp your servers ah 24/7 until i have it! |
22:06.29 | *** join/#wowace luigithekid (n=chatzill@190.79.55.226) |
22:07.27 | nevcairiel | i still have to figure out which server that is, though |
22:07.38 | luigithekid | Hello, need some help with Classtimer, anybody on that could give me a hand? |
22:08.39 | Dashkal | wtb west coast semi-casual alli _PvE_ guild... |
22:09.02 | luigithekid | Specifically, custom timers |
22:09.58 | AckisWork | claps for luigithekid |
22:10.10 | AckisWork | heh |
22:10.56 | luigithekid | ? |
22:11.12 | AckisWork | "could give me a hand?" |
22:11.17 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78197 10Mount/: |
22:11.17 | CIA-44 | Mount: |
22:11.17 | CIA-44 | - Obsolete, use Coconuts instead |
22:11.34 | ulic | coconuts == best mount ever |
22:11.37 | AckisWork | LordFarlander: svn delete it? |
22:11.43 | LordFarlander | Yeah |
22:12.12 | LordFarlander | That way I can blow out LibLordFarlander-1.0 and LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0 too :) |
22:12.24 | LordFarlander | Clean up my mess a bit lol |
22:13.22 | AckisWork | might be worthwhile to leave in for a week or so w/ an onenable message saying "use coconuts instead" then nuke it out |
22:13.23 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78198 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/: |
22:13.23 | CIA-44 | LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0: |
22:13.23 | CIA-44 | - Deleted, it is not used by anything anymore and has been obsoleted |
22:14.27 | LordFarlander | Perhaps, but Coconuts has been officially released for that long now so I hope everyone has already found out about it since I renamed it on the release sites... |
22:14.38 | AckisWork | ahh ok |
22:14.45 | AckisWork | NUKE THEM ALL imo |
22:14.51 | LordFarlander | :D Yuup |
22:14.52 | Avrys | Does seppyk hang out on IRC at all? |
22:14.54 | AckisWork | glares at Babble-2.2 |
22:15.48 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78199 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/: |
22:15.49 | CIA-44 | LibLordFarlander-1.0: |
22:15.49 | CIA-44 | - Deleted, replaced by LibLordFarlander-2.0 |
22:16.10 | nevcairiel | we'll deal with babble when the time comes |
22:16.23 | LordFarlander | There :) |
22:16.27 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: you know my passion against Babble-2.2 :P |
22:16.42 | LordFarlander | It is rather evil :p |
22:16.44 | AckisWork | I just haven't QQed about it for a while |
22:16.55 | nevcairiel | alot of addons still use the 2.2's sadly |
22:17.12 | nevcairiel | but we'll get to it eventually |
22:17.20 | nevcairiel | some other stuff is more important for now, though |
22:17.24 | AckisWork | yes, but some of the 2.2 components aren't being used by anything... I know it's a work in progress |
22:19.49 | nevcairiel | once we have the other stuff dealt with, it'll hopefully be much easier to get stats on whats still being used |
22:20.49 | nevcairiel | oh well, sleep time for me |
22:21.41 | AckisWork | night sweet prince |
22:29.36 | CIA-44 | 03phanx * r78200 10TooltipExchange/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
22:29.36 | CIA-44 | TooltipExchange: |
22:29.36 | CIA-44 | - Add heroic instance loot |
22:29.36 | CIA-44 | - Add Sunwell Plateau and Zul'Aman raid loot |
22:29.36 | CIA-44 | - Add searching for armor penetration, feral attack power, exptertise, haste rating, health regen, mana regen, and spell haste rating |
22:29.38 | CIA-44 | - Fix searching for bonus healing |
22:29.42 | CIA-44 | - Upgrade to LibPeriodicTable-3.1 |
22:31.18 | NeoTron | I wonder what TooltipExchange is |
22:31.38 | CIA-44 | 03phanx * r78201 10TooltipExchange/: |
22:31.38 | CIA-44 | TooltipExchange: |
22:31.38 | CIA-44 | - Update svn properties |
22:31.39 | CIA-44 | 03danielbarron * r78202 10RaidBuffStatus/ (9 files): |
22:31.39 | CIA-44 | RaidBuffStatus: |
22:31.39 | CIA-44 | - Added a minimap button. |
22:31.41 | CIA-44 | - Group 6 is again ignored due to popular demand. |
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22:41.34 | Pkekyo| | ~seen thul |
22:41.36 | purl | thul is currently on #wowace (9d 1h 14m 12s). Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 6d 4m 38s, last said: 'I'm happy'. |
22:41.38 | Pkekyo| | thul ping |
22:41.55 | Aiiane | that's a long idle. o.o |
22:42.40 | Pkekyo| | not really...my tower used to have a 99% uptime...add a long summer vacation to that and you've got a long idle :p |
22:43.40 | Pkekyo| | my webbrowser/irc client has started doing random crashes lately though, so I don't have the same IRC uptime anymore :< |
22:44.09 | Pkekyo| | anyone got a decent stream for Meet The Spartans? |
22:45.56 | NeoTron | Aiiane: at least he's happy |
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22:47.21 | Pkekyo| | bah, browser threw another hissyfit...did anyone have that stream? |
22:48.15 | NeoTron | my irc box reboots on occasion... |
22:48.23 | NeoTron | when the windows it's running on is restarted |
22:48.33 | NeoTron | vmware server => extra box for the kids to play windows on |
22:48.37 | NeoTron | handy |
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22:48.40 | Pkekyo| | only have one box >.< |
22:52.15 | Primer | Is there any option to make the "Player options" hover menu never appear? To only make the default hover appear? |
22:52.46 | Primer | for example, when I have a target, the hover popup is always that "Player options" text |
22:53.03 | Primer | but when I don't have a target and hover over a unit frame, I get the player name, their guild name, etc |
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23:38.09 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Beta opt-in: https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html |
23:39.11 | Funkeh` | ag`, you know, if all fubar plugins used the exact same functions in the exact same way |
23:39.16 | Funkeh` | life, would be.. |
23:39.27 | ag` | yeah, easier :p |
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23:44.37 | ZealotOnAStick | You know, if a lot of things done even with just addon distribution did things the same way, life would be way simpler. |
23:44.58 | ZealotOnAStick | profalbert: Heya, been hoping to catch you |
23:45.06 | profalbert | hm? |
23:45.23 | ZealotOnAStick | If you would, go sign up on CurseForge as a user there so ckknight can add you as a contributor to Parrot there. |
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23:45.58 | profalbert | alright |
23:46.11 | ckknight | my arm hurts |
23:47.09 | Funkeh` | masturbate less |
23:48.11 | ckknight | no, it's the left arm, my right's fine |
23:48.54 | Dashkal | When trying to switch hands, remember to ease into it. Your left just doesn't have the same endurance. |
23:49.14 | ag` | ckknight: well you could be left-handed |
23:49.21 | ckknight | no, I'm not a witch |
23:50.06 | Arrowmaster | pff you gota learn to be ambidextridus, otherwise how else are you going to opperate the mouse to change webpages |
23:50.19 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78203 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: |
23:50.19 | CIA-44 | FuBar2Broker: |
23:50.19 | CIA-44 | - bugfix |
23:51.09 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: well, I can do that in my left hand |
23:51.15 | ckknight | it's not that big an issue |
23:51.15 | ag` | I must be a witch then :( |
23:51.20 | ckknight | yep. |
23:51.42 | Arrowmaster | my mouse is designed for right hand operation |
23:51.47 | ag` | I made a flower out of pipe cleaners yesterday |
23:52.15 | ckknight | ag`: witch! |
23:52.18 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: build up dexterity with the feet, solves that problem |
23:52.40 | ag` | yeah I know :( |
23:52.48 | ag` | and a giraffe too |
23:53.05 | Arrowmaster | my left hand has enough dexterity, i play guitar hero |
23:53.05 | ag` | I use my mouse in right hand |
23:53.25 | Funkeh` | I use both hands |
23:53.25 | ag` | I tried going to left hand once but I got impatient |
23:53.29 | Funkeh` | at the same time |
23:53.37 | ag` | two mice |
23:53.40 | ag` | :P |
23:53.41 | Funkeh` | damn right |
23:53.55 | profalbert | ckknight: I'm registered to curseforge now, shall I commit to both svn's? |
23:53.56 | ag` | windows doesn't support multiple cursors, does it? :P |
23:54.04 | ckknight | profalbert: no, stick with wowace's |
23:54.13 | ckknight | curseforge doesn't have its svn set up |
23:54.14 | NeoTron | so anyone know the minimum level to enter SWP? |
23:54.19 | NeoTron | is it 70 or 68 or? |
23:54.23 | ckknight | profalbert: name's profalbert or what? |
23:54.33 | profalbert | ckknight: yes |
23:54.40 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: try to enter while not in a raid and youll find out |
23:54.50 | ckknight | k, you're marked as an author now |
23:54.52 | profalbert | fine by me. would hate to double-commit anyways |
23:54.56 | profalbert | thanks |
23:55.06 | ckknight | frankly, it's not a big deal, not sure why zoas need it |
23:55.10 | ckknight | needs* |
23:59.38 | Stanzilla | ag`: k, error is gone :) Next thing: on load the GroupFu plugin shows "FuBar - GroupFu" as the text, if you then click on it to perform a roll and the roll times out it switches back to "Solo" which it should be from the start |
23:59.52 | Sole | YO |