00:02.04 | CIA-44 | 03broliant * r78114 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (4 files): |
00:02.04 | CIA-44 | FuBar_ConvergeFu: - Added guild announcement to inform a new recruit of the guild registration keyword. |
00:02.04 | CIA-44 | - Added a 'message test' option to the Crowd Control tool. |
00:02.04 | CIA-44 | - Revised the 'guildinfo' message to new format. |
00:02.04 | CIA-44 | - Added functions to colour text. |
00:02.04 | CIA-44 | - Added function to toggle the BusyResponder on/off. |
00:02.08 | CIA-44 | - Linked the ToggleBusyResponder() function to the ctrl-click option of the OnClick event function. |
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00:09.36 | Camci | Does the team raiting needs to be same raiting as the personal raiting to buy something? like if my PR is 1750 and team raiding is 1680 i cant get the item thats 1700 ? |
00:10.03 | Wraithan | I have smart buff, and when Water Shield fades it pops up in big font saying it is gone |
00:10.17 | selckin | i think only PR mathers for that |
00:10.40 | Wraithan | actually it does that for all missing buffs, but I hardly forget to buff my weapons |
00:10.47 | Camci | It seems not... my fucking team mate made some games without asking me and lost a few. |
00:10.59 | Camci | i have over 1700 PR and got the points but it says |
00:11.01 | Camci | let me see |
00:11.25 | Camci | "your personal raiting is too low for that item" |
00:12.39 | selckin | dunno, i can't keep up with all the changes to avoid cheating, don't do arena |
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00:18.00 | Mytos | im of the opinion that resilience and arenas have killed pvp in warcraft |
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00:18.21 | selckin | resurrection timers killed pvp. |
00:19.43 | Mytos | it takes all the skill out of the game |
00:20.22 | selckin | there is no such thing as 'skill' |
00:20.43 | Mytos | there used to be |
00:23.13 | Wraithan | It seems arenas are more about gear and team composition than skill |
00:23.40 | NeoTron_ | 5v5 is a lot about skill |
00:23.45 | NeoTron_ | 2v2 is a lot about stupid |
00:24.07 | Wraithan | I have never heard anything good about 5v5 |
00:24.25 | NeoTron_ | it's imho a bit more balanced tahn 2v2 |
00:24.38 | Wraithan | 3v3 is all I really hear about |
00:24.40 | NeoTron_ | 2v2 is almost entirely composition (resto druid ftw) |
00:25.07 | Wraithan | guildie got in a match 2restos druids vs resto druid and resto shaman |
00:25.15 | NeoTron_ | wow. fun. |
00:25.25 | NeoTron_ | that's retarded :P |
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00:25.44 | selckin | only when neither refuse to quit |
00:25.47 | selckin | and it goes on for 4 hours |
00:26.09 | Wraithan | ally quit after 35mins |
00:26.17 | Wraithan | my buddy was drunk and didn't care |
00:26.43 | selckin | should be a 10min timelimit |
00:27.04 | CIA-44 | 03morgalm * r78115 10Incubator/Core.lua: |
00:27.04 | CIA-44 | Incubator: |
00:27.04 | CIA-44 | - Fix nil error in 1066 |
00:29.35 | _rane | "2v2 is almost entirely composition" bullshit |
00:30.40 | selckin | who let the pvpers out of their cave |
00:30.43 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78116 10StatBlock_Ammo/ (. StatBlock_Ammo.lua StatBlock_Ammo.toc): StatBlock_Ammo: Import. (locks, warr's, rogues & hunters) |
00:31.01 | VonhintenHOME` | it |
00:31.30 | VonhintenHOME` | It's pretty true... resto druids make arena unfair imo |
00:31.32 | CIA-44 | 03satrina * r78117 10SatrinaBuffFrame/SBFButtonFacade.lua: |
00:31.32 | CIA-44 | SatrinaBuffFrame: |
00:31.32 | CIA-44 | <PROTECTED> |
00:31.39 | VonhintenHOME` | resto druid+warlock = ugh |
00:33.14 | CIA-44 | 03satrina * r78118 10SatrinaBuffFrame/SatrinaBuffFrame.lua: |
00:33.14 | CIA-44 | SatrinaBuffFrame: |
00:33.14 | CIA-44 | <PROTECTED> |
00:33.29 | Wraithan | my 5v5 team will be stupid probably, ele, resto, and enhance shaman, priest, lock |
00:33.38 | Wraithan | holy priest |
00:33.45 | CIA-44 | 03satrina * r78119 10SBFOptions/SatrinaBuffFrameOptions.lua: |
00:33.45 | CIA-44 | SBFOptions: |
00:33.45 | CIA-44 | <PROTECTED> |
00:33.48 | Wraithan | lock changes spec every day so not sure about him |
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00:53.16 | p3lim | how can i remove a SetTexCoord() ? |
00:53.31 | p3lim | from a pre-made texture |
00:53.38 | p3lim | or rather, what is the default values? |
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01:07.07 | CIA-44 | 03satrina * r78120 10SatrinaBuffFrame/ (SBFButtonFacade.lua SatrinaBuffFrame.lua): |
01:07.07 | CIA-44 | SatrinaBuffFrame: |
01:07.07 | CIA-44 | <PROTECTED> |
01:07.44 | CIA-44 | 03satrina * r78121 10SBFOptions/SatrinaBuffFrameOptions.lua: |
01:07.44 | CIA-44 | SBFOptions: |
01:07.44 | CIA-44 | <PROTECTED> |
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01:10.37 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: can I PM you some spam I'm not sure BadBoy is catching? I /rl'd just before, so maybe it wasn't ready yet, although the spam shows in my chat after several (annoying) "addon blah is now loaded" messages... |
01:11.12 | Funkeh` | yeah |
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01:13.26 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78122 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: Add block enable/disable, perform a frame existence check for parenting. |
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01:19.22 | Daemona | haha |
01:19.29 | Daemona | i just installed d2 again |
01:19.48 | Daemona | playing 800x600 fullscreen on 22" wide is cruel :X |
01:20.33 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78123 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: tweak |
01:21.06 | NeoTron_ | <PROTECTED> |
01:21.31 | Daemona | i'd kill for that feature -.- |
01:21.56 | Daemona | guess i will just undust mit 19" standard 4:3 screen and hook it up and make it primary for d2 ^^ |
01:21.58 | vithos | check your video card driver config |
01:22.06 | vithos | i know nvidia at least has different modes for that |
01:22.18 | NeoTron_ | really? |
01:22.32 | NeoTron_ | not up to the monitor? |
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01:22.49 | NeoTron_ | I guess the gfx card could opt to use part of the screen |
01:22.58 | vithos | well, i think either one could technically do it |
01:23.16 | Spyder | hellow? |
01:23.35 | Spyder | hi=? |
01:23.50 | vithos | hi. |
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01:24.08 | Spyder | what's |
01:24.53 | Daemona | wtf |
01:24.59 | Daemona | the nvidia stuff can really do that |
01:25.06 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78124 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated Blacklist |
01:25.09 | Daemona | option is called "scale and keep aspect ratio" |
01:25.22 | vithos | i'm no liar |
01:25.54 | Daemona | display -> flat screen control -> |
01:26.01 | Daemona | one cookie for you vithos |
01:28.42 | vithos | nom nom nom |
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01:29.56 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin ladies |
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01:44.44 | NeoTron_ | Daemona: sweet. will fix that when I get home |
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01:52.32 | Hjalte | This is brilliant. Epic gems are selling for 300-350g on my realm, and I usually have some of every type on the AH. Now someone's put three of every kind of epic gem on for 200g a piece. What an idiot. |
01:52.54 | NeoTron_ | did you buy them? |
01:52.57 | Hjalte | Yes |
01:52.58 | NeoTron_ | some ppl just want fast money |
01:53.22 | NeoTron_ | despite gold inflation I dunno if I'll buy those new large bags |
01:53.33 | NeoTron_ | I'm sure we'll see 22 slot + bags in wotlk pretty cheaply |
01:53.42 | Tekkub | I wouldn't, but then I bought a bear mount :) |
01:53.49 | Tekkub | and I've never had bagspace issues |
01:54.20 | NeoTron_ | I _just) bought a couple of 20 slot bags to make it 3 |
01:54.23 | NeoTron_ | (warlock) |
01:54.28 | NeoTron_ | for 450ish g each |
01:54.42 | NeoTron_ | anyhow, time to head home. ttfn |
01:54.42 | Tekkub | 18-slut bags here on all my toonz |
01:54.50 | Tekkub | well, 16's on some |
01:54.57 | NeoTron_ | I don't have full 18s in the bank either |
01:55.03 | Tekkub | 18's on the ones I actually play |
01:55.24 | Tekkub | I only have 16's in the bank, usually the bound ones from my 18 upgrades :) |
01:55.27 | Zyndrome | netherweave bags go cheap |
01:55.44 | Tekkub | well they only cost like 3-4g to make |
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02:02.09 | CIA-44 | 03Jmbtsang * r78125 10GridStatusKalecgos/GridStatusKalecgos.lua: |
02:02.09 | CIA-44 | GridStatusKalecgos: |
02:02.09 | CIA-44 | - Modified the handler so that it will activate right away instead of the next |
02:02.09 | CIA-44 | timer tick. This will eliminate any initial flashing that occurs if you overlap |
02:02.09 | CIA-44 | GridStatusKalecgos with the normal curse provider (with a higher priority). |
02:03.29 | Funkeh` | I'm such a 3 doors down geek :/ |
02:04.24 | Ellipsis | o.o |
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02:11.23 | CIA-44 | 03p3lim * r78126 10oUF_P3lim/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
02:11.23 | CIA-44 | oUF_P3lim: |
02:11.23 | CIA-44 | - Redid whole layout and dir system, still some work to do. Looks much better now, but there is a memory leak i still need to find |
02:15.20 | Pkekyo| | I fucking hate infected insect bites >.< |
02:15.55 | Zyndrome | gimmie one on one of my legs |
02:16.04 | Zyndrome | who turns out so gruesome I have to amputate it |
02:16.27 | Zyndrome | so I have a valid reason not to help out cleaning the old barn at my grannies house in the coming days |
02:16.29 | Pkekyo| | don't like your legs? |
02:16.30 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
02:16.46 | Pkekyo| | just brake your wrist in the car door, it'll get you out of that, and it's not permanent |
02:17.45 | Zyndrome | or kick as hard as I can into the neighbours fence ... which I once did, so every time I tried to walk on my foot, it sent shockwaves of pain throughout my body :3 |
02:19.30 | Pkekyo| | nah, you have to have something that's visible and obviously painful at the same time |
02:20.14 | Pkekyo| | put your wrist onto the frame of the car, and slam the car door shut |
02:20.15 | Pkekyo| | broke my arm that way as a kid...horribly painful the first day or so, then it was....okay...I guess... |
02:20.22 | Pkekyo| | painkillers ftw |
02:20.51 | Zyndrome | I had my fingers in between when they slammed the door shut, when I was a kid :< |
02:21.02 | Zyndrome | funny shit, it bent the metal |
02:21.18 | Zyndrome | doesn't like being indestructable |
02:22.16 | Pkekyo| | wtf, did your parents drive a fiat? |
02:22.35 | Ellipsis | sneaks up behind Pkekyo| and tickles him |
02:22.39 | Zyndrome | uhm no, we had a shitty old WV bus :p |
02:23.02 | Pkekyo| | does a backflip and plonks Ellipsis from behind |
02:23.06 | Pkekyo| | lmao, figures... |
02:23.27 | erikh | Zyndrome: heh, my aunt did that to me numerous times when I was really young |
02:23.29 | Pkekyo| | I actually bent the metal of a fiat when 'I' slammed my head into it |
02:23.37 | erikh | I'm 30, and she still apologizes to me when I see her |
02:24.21 | Zyndrome | oO |
02:25.34 | Zyndrome | how I still live is a mystery ... cracked my forehead when I was like 5-6 years old ... don't try to headbutt a metal swing with people on it |
02:25.46 | Zyndrome | one of those 2-seat ones... |
02:26.48 | Tekkub | headbutting a metal swing around the age 6 eh.... |
02:27.14 | erikh | yep, it happens to the best of us |
02:27.22 | Zyndrome | more like: I was trying to throw a bucket of sand at my friend on it :D |
02:27.25 | Tekkub | when I was about 6 I tripped over a metal wireframe chairs and tried to catch myself with my teeth |
02:27.26 | Zyndrome | didn't go as planned |
02:27.45 | Tekkub | three of my top front teeth are all out of allignment cause of it |
02:27.48 | Ellipsis | you guys were clumsy little noobs |
02:28.15 | erikh | your brother cracks you in the nuts with a baseball bat, you're 12, on a farm, on a horse, and think you're the lone ranger so you give the horse a swift kick in the haunch, it launches you backwards, nearly crushes you with it's hoof but your rabid mother beats the shit out of it before it can come all the way down... |
02:28.26 | Tekkub | and then there was the time I tried to dive under an endtable to hide, but missed an went forehead first... I have a dent in the center of my forehead |
02:29.12 | erikh | oh yeah, you decide to turn a kids swing set into a waterslide with a hose, and it works a little too well, you slide all the way across the backyard, hands out first and slam your fingers right into the concrete porch |
02:29.14 | Tekkub | I could probably put one of those forehead jews over it, heh |
02:29.29 | Zyndrome | wut |
02:29.45 | Ellipsis | o.O |
02:29.51 | erikh | of course, the only finger you actually break is your middle finger, so you get a cast a week before you start junior high that makes it look like you're flipping everyone off |
02:29.59 | erikh | which you leverage with new teachers to great effect |
02:30.07 | CIA-44 | 03kurax * r78127 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (6 files): AtlasLoot_BCInstances: Locales update |
02:30.09 | Tekkub | silp-n-slide in the mountains where there are no level surfaces :) |
02:30.37 | erikh | interestingly enough, as clutzy as my genes say I should be that's the only bone I've ever broke |
02:30.40 | erikh | n |
02:30.54 | Tekkub | <--- never broken a bone or had stiches |
02:31.03 | erikh | I think that's god's version of poetic justice |
02:31.16 | Ellipsis | I broke bones all the time, but I don't have any scars to show for it |
02:31.18 | Tekkub | tho I did come damn close once when I ran into a girl leaving the lunchroom and her TEETH cut my eyebrow |
02:31.20 | Ellipsis | I suppose that's a good thing |
02:31.31 | Ellipsis | wait, how short were you? |
02:31.46 | Pkekyo| | lolwut |
02:32.00 | Pkekyo| | I should alt-tab less often, this conversation took an unsuspected turn |
02:32.02 | Zyndrome | lets see ... I'm like 10, some poor sod is mowing the grass outside our apartment-building, I am outside playing and I stand behind the machine he's driving, and the exit for the grass is pointing the same way... suddenly, A HUGE RED CROQUET BALL COMES FLYING OUT OF IT AND HITS ME IN THE DEAD CENTER OF MY CHIN |
02:32.02 | Tekkub | heh, it was actaully the girl that lived at the end of my block too |
02:32.08 | Zyndrome | headshotted :C |
02:32.18 | erikh | I have a scar from an over-itchy piece of chicken pox and another from when I caught my foot in the back wheel of one of those foot-powered scooters when I was 7-8 |
02:32.20 | kenlyric | BOO |
02:32.20 | Tekkub | oh and the time I stepped on a rusty nail in the playground, IN SHOES |
02:32.22 | kenlyric | M |
02:32.23 | erikh | that's it I think. |
02:32.24 | Pkekyo| | speaking of girls cutting with teeth... vampiric fetishes are fun :p |
02:32.33 | Tekkub | it went between two toes and didn't hurt me at all :) |
02:32.58 | kenlyric | I paid for a break and scar free chilhood with hepatitis when I was 10. |
02:33.01 | Pkekyo| | I have a bloody scar from massacring my CD player :p |
02:33.07 | erikh | kenlyric: ouch! |
02:33.19 | Ellipsis | grats on suck kenlyric |
02:33.32 | kenlyric | it did make my immune system hardcore. |
02:33.38 | Tekkub | my only scars are from xacto knives and paper cutters... fucking hobbies are a bitch |
02:33.44 | kenlyric | thoug when I do get sick, it's terrible, like right now. |
02:33.57 | erikh | kenlyric: alright captain roberts |
02:34.04 | Tekkub | oh, well and cat claws |
02:34.08 | erikh | sorry, DREAD PIRATE ROBERTS |
02:34.14 | Ellipsis | not gonna lie, I have a chicken pox scar too...but nobody ever notices it |
02:34.19 | Ellipsis | wins? |
02:34.20 | Tekkub | <--- scars really easily |
02:34.32 | Pkekyo| | chicken pox scar? lolwut? |
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02:34.47 | Wraithan | ~seen Tornhoof |
02:34.49 | purl | tornhoof is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 5d 7h 16m 57s, last said: 'heh'. |
02:34.53 | Pkekyo| | I hardly ever get scars... |
02:34.53 | Pkekyo| | come to think of it, I only ever get scars when the cut is more than 1 cm deep :/ |
02:35.13 | erikh | my wife sees my scar.. if anyone else saw it I wouldn't have a wife to show it to |
02:35.26 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|: y'know, when you get chicken pox and one of the spots is really really really really itchy? |
02:35.27 | Pkekyo| | lmao erikh |
02:35.33 | Pkekyo| | erikh: got yourself neutered? |
02:35.39 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: can't say I do |
02:35.41 | Zyndrome | heh... when I fell onto a sharp rock and it hit my knee, it hurt .. but not as much when the wound got infected and my whole knee got swollen, I had to drag my ass around the apartment, and it was a world of pain to just stand up to piss, until I eventually ended up on the hospital |
02:35.42 | Ellipsis | and you just can't stop scratching it 'cause you're a little kid and you don't really know any better |
02:35.44 | erikh | chicken pox causes sterility now? :) |
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02:36.03 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: Hey, PM me if you get back to keys, I am workin on a patch to YATA to make it so it does left click totem stomping in the macro, and right click totemic call, going to do it proper with a setting and all, but wanted to know if that is something you would consider adding |
02:36.06 | Pkekyo| | erikh: how the hell should I know? |
02:36.19 | Pkekyo| | 04:35erikhmy wife sees my scar.. if anyone else saw it I wouldn't have a wife to show it to <--- I just assumed :P |
02:36.30 | Tekkub | I have a pair of cat claw scars across my right arm from where a cat tried to jump from my desk to my lap, missed, and hung off the side of my chair by only the claws he caught in my arm |
02:36.42 | Tekkub | that was... shit, almost 4 years ago |
02:36.51 | Ellipsis | proof that cats are evil |
02:37.05 | Tekkub | oh no, he was super cute... and defective |
02:37.13 | Pkekyo| | I never got diseases such as chicken pox etc...it's weird...either I get so sick I hardly bloody make it through alive, or I just get horribly injured from blunt force trauma :p |
02:37.18 | Ellipsis | the cute ones are teh worst...that's how they get you |
02:37.22 | Zyndrome | ya know, I sent my brother to the hospital once, cause I thought I was a genious throwing near boiling hot water on him |
02:37.35 | Mytos | i have claw scars all the way up my left side in intervals, cat decided it wanted to climb me and i was getting out of the shower |
02:37.41 | Tekkub | he'd sit in your lap and if you stopped petting him he'd stand up, crane his head backwards, and stare at you till you pet him again |
02:37.50 | Ellipsis | awwwww |
02:37.55 | Ellipsis | how can you resist that? |
02:38.00 | Tekkub | push him off you lap and he'd bounce off the ground and back into it |
02:38.02 | Wraithan | I have a couple large scars (2in in diameter at the widest part, 1in at the thinnest) from rolling a three wheel motorcycle onto myself |
02:38.14 | Wraithan | 3rd degree burns, I have no feeling there now |
02:38.37 | Pkekyo| | how the hell did you manage to do that Wraithan? :/ |
02:38.41 | Wraithan | on the inside of my left arm luckly, so I don't have to explain them to everyone I meet, just half of them |
02:38.47 | Wraithan | Pkekyo|: ever ride a three wheeler? |
02:38.58 | Zyndrome | a trike! |
02:39.02 | erikh | oops, sorry, I have surgery scars as well! |
02:39.17 | Pkekyo| | Wraithan: only those little plastic thingies as a kid :p |
02:39.25 | erikh | btw: if you have appendicitis, make sure if it bursts and you go septic that you don't have a full stomach! |
02:39.25 | Wraithan | erikh: bah have several of those, they don't count unless they are greusome |
02:39.26 | Pkekyo| | ...road those after I was a kid too though... |
02:39.48 | Ellipsis | so, uh, don't eat if you think you have appendicitis? o.O |
02:39.54 | erikh | heh |
02:39.55 | Wraithan | Pkekyo|: they are really easy to flip |
02:40.16 | Zyndrome | http://www.allgardenfun.com/images/plum-zeus-large.jpg <- one of the seats of the one on the far left hit my skull at full force when I was a little kiddo |
02:40.16 | erikh | my "project vomit" trinket popped and I hit a window from a across the room w/ dinner |
02:40.37 | erikh | anyways, I gotta go run my new toon through UBRSv2 |
02:40.38 | erikh | bbl |
02:40.38 | Wraithan | erikh: mine was burst for 4 days before I went into the hospitol, thought it was the flu |
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02:40.55 | Wraithan | ended up with minor blood poisoning |
02:40.57 | erikh | ouch, yeah, we got right to the hospital after that happened |
02:41.02 | erikh | had no idea it was the appendix. |
02:41.08 | Wraithan | me either. |
02:41.10 | Wraithan | lol |
02:41.17 | erikh | i just had "stomach cramps" for a week or so |
02:41.19 | Wraithan | no pain for me, my tolerance is too high |
02:41.37 | erikh | which while abnormal on a man, were not abnormal for someone with a geek's diet |
02:41.42 | Pkekyo| | I don't get it...I get the mono and nearly die (dehydration), but I always survive when some tosser runs me over with his/her car... (trust me, happens alot) |
02:42.02 | Wraithan | I have split bones in my wrist and thought it was sprained |
02:42.13 | Wraithan | Pkekyo|: never been hit by a car, but I ahve had mono! |
02:42.15 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|, how many times have you been run over? |
02:42.22 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: this year? :P |
02:42.27 | Ellipsis | um, sure |
02:42.40 | Pkekyo| | only two, but it's only half-time |
02:42.50 | Wraithan | Ellipsis: better question, Pkekyo|: wtf are you doing in the road so much to get hit by cars. |
02:43.03 | Wraithan | drink less. |
02:43.05 | Wraithan | :D |
02:43.08 | Pkekyo| | Wraithan: has something to do with drivers not fancying to brake when I cross the road |
02:43.21 | Wraithan | or more, that way you can't make it to the road heh |
02:44.04 | Pkekyo| | I hit peak the winter of '05/'06 though... |
02:44.04 | Pkekyo| | got hit by cars three days in a bloody row |
02:44.17 | Wraithan | stay inside. |
02:44.21 | Wraithan | lol |
02:45.58 | Pkekyo| | day 1 - got hit whilst crossing the road, rolled across the hood of the car and was laying on the windshield for quite a distance before the cunt decided to stop the car (afterwards she commenced blaming me for her not braking when I crossed the road) |
02:45.58 | Pkekyo| | day 2 - got backed over by a big truck when I was returning from the hospital |
02:45.58 | Pkekyo| | day 3 - my mate hit me with his car "for laughs" |
02:46.31 | Zyndrome | that's what friends are for! |
02:46.38 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
02:47.06 | Pkekyo| | was a rough week...breakups and beatdowns was also involved lol |
02:47.18 | Ellipsis | pets Pkekyo| |
02:48.27 | Pkekyo| | first I got beat up by a large group of dongjobs, then hit by a car the next day...very same day my girlfriend dumped me, and the two remaining days followed as described :p |
02:48.30 | Wraithan | Girlfriend dumped me today, so i am going out dancing to distract myself |
02:48.46 | Funkeh` | sucks huh |
02:48.57 | Wraithan | yeah, more time for WoW and Work |
02:49.34 | Wraithan | Looking at it that way because sucks thinking about the fact that the girl I love more than anything or one else in the world has rejected me |
02:49.36 | Pkekyo| | Wraithan: dancing? stop being a pussy about it, go get shitfaced |
02:49.54 | Wraithan | Pkekyo|: possibly, later, with ex from a while back |
02:50.07 | Pkekyo| | Wraithan: don't |
02:50.17 | Wraithan | don't get laid? |
02:50.18 | Pkekyo| | I've been down that road...time and time again...it's never a pretty sight :p |
02:50.33 | Pkekyo| | by all means, get laid...just stay away from ex girlfriends...it never ends well |
02:50.35 | Wraithan | eh, she just got dumped 3 weeks ago by her boyfriend |
02:50.50 | Wraithan | been trying for a booty call for 2 of those weeks |
02:51.39 | Wraithan | and I don't really care to hang out with her that much lol, she is annoying as hell lol |
02:53.06 | Wraithan | I am pretty stoked, got a new mouse, Logitech MX518 |
02:53.11 | Wraithan | it is soooo smooth |
02:53.12 | Pkekyo| | well, whatever you fancy, just saying :p |
02:53.20 | Pkekyo| | yeah, the logitech MX series is bloody brilliant |
02:53.33 | Wraithan | I need a good mouse pad now though |
02:53.38 | Ellipsis | mx revolution ftw imo kthx |
02:54.04 | Pkekyo| | MX1000<3 |
02:54.05 | Wraithan | Eh, I paid half the price of that |
02:54.22 | Wraithan | but I agree the revolution is nice |
02:54.34 | Ellipsis | mine was free...birthday gifts ftw |
02:54.43 | Wraithan | Ah nice |
02:55.03 | Wraithan | birthday I got a new mobo, since mine had died |
02:55.30 | Pkekyo| | come to think about it...don't think I got anything for my birthday actually :p |
02:55.31 | Wraithan | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188024&Tpk=EVGA%2b780I |
02:55.43 | Pkekyo| | ooh, ooh! that's not right! I got brownies :D |
02:56.07 | Pkekyo| | brownies be bloody brilliant |
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02:58.09 | Wraithan | besides it isn't just any dancing, I am going out blues dancing |
02:58.12 | Wraithan | ever been? |
02:59.03 | Pkekyo| | can't say I have...I dance like a mongoloid gorilla in a wheelchair :D |
02:59.19 | Wraithan | ever seen a stripper dance? |
02:59.30 | Pkekyo| | well, except swing...I can dance swing for some reason |
02:59.31 | Wraithan | even just in movies? |
02:59.34 | Pkekyo| | sure |
02:59.42 | Wraithan | yeah, and the guy is the pole. |
02:59.52 | Pkekyo| | oh, been there, done that then |
03:00.07 | Wraithan | except it is to blues music and 'socially acceptable' |
03:00.09 | Wraithan | :D |
03:01.02 | Wraithan | only problem is it has been several months since I have been |
03:01.13 | Wraithan | my girlfriend wasn't into dancing |
03:01.20 | Wraithan | other than square, which is quite fun |
03:01.23 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
03:01.23 | Pkekyo| | did that at my ex's school's bloody christmas dance years ago |
03:02.01 | Pkekyo| | it seemed to revolt the teachers ^^ |
03:02.27 | Wraithan | yeah this wouldn't be acceptable at schools at all |
03:03.01 | Wraithan | nice thing is there is always a pretty girl willing to help someone who has forgotten some of the moves remember |
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03:03.31 | Pkekyo| | it was all in good fun...everyone was bloody shitfaced anyways :p |
03:03.46 | Wraithan | lo |
03:03.56 | Pkekyo| | this country's drinking culture is ridiculous beyond belief |
03:04.04 | Ellipsis | licks Pkekyo| |
03:04.06 | Wraithan | later bro, heading out friend I am going with should be here soon |
03:04.11 | Wraithan | Pkekyo|: what country? |
03:04.40 | Pkekyo| | "Welcome to Norway. Our cultural heritage involves drinking, smashing, raiding and making weird cheese." |
03:04.41 | Pkekyo| | :p |
03:04.52 | Hjalte | Same in Denmark. |
03:05.01 | Pkekyo| | the country where kids get shitfaced and screw around from the age of 12 |
03:06.34 | Pkekyo| | the country where kids get their own bloody cellphone the first day of school, and will continously, without fail scream "...but daddy! but daddy! blablabedibla blabediblablabla" anywhere you might find them |
03:06.53 | Pkekyo| | when I think about it, this country is pretty much on it's arse |
03:07.02 | Pkekyo| | oh well, atleast we have our oil :p |
03:08.18 | Pkekyo| | huh...it's 5am allready |
03:08.18 | Pkekyo| | wtf happened? |
03:08.26 | Gnarfoz | time went by |
03:08.38 | Pkekyo| | how? when? |
03:08.45 | Gnarfoz | just now |
03:09.28 | Pkekyo| | don't you mean 'just then'? |
03:10.00 | Pkekyo| | you can't say 'just now' without the specific period of time you're refering to has passed :p |
03:10.28 | Pkekyo| | s/has passed/passing/ |
03:10.47 | Fisker- | i leave no survivors Gnarfoz |
03:15.57 | CIA-44 | 03kurax * r78129 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (24 files): AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: Locales update |
03:17.48 | Pkekyo| | oh screw this, only two hours until I've gotta be up and about again...I'm off to bed |
03:17.48 | Pkekyo| | g'nite ladies |
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03:32.32 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78130 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
03:32.32 | CIA-44 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
03:32.32 | CIA-44 | - Fixed GetItemIDFromLink |
03:32.32 | CIA-44 | - Changed GetButtonOptionArgs to GetButtonOptionGroup, changed some of the values it takes to be generically named |
03:32.32 | CIA-44 | - Fixed unlearning skill notification |
03:35.08 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78131 10Baldrick/ (Baldrick.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
03:35.09 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
03:35.09 | CIA-44 | - Updated to get button group from LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0 |
03:35.09 | CIA-44 | - Changed use of GetZoneText() to GetRealZoneText() |
03:35.36 | CIA-44 | 03kurax * r78132 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (6 files): AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: Locales update |
03:37.50 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78133 10Coconuts/ (Coconuts.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
03:37.50 | CIA-44 | Coconuts: |
03:37.50 | CIA-44 | - Updated to get button group from LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0 |
03:37.50 | CIA-44 | - Changed use of GetZoneText() to GetRealZoneText() |
03:37.50 | CIA-44 | - Fixed riding skill not being set if the UI is reloaded |
03:37.51 | CIA-44 | - Options will now say what they're set to when using the chat command |
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03:38.53 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78134 10MiniPet/ (MiniPet.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
03:38.53 | CIA-44 | MiniPet: |
03:38.53 | CIA-44 | - Updated to get button group from LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0 |
03:38.53 | CIA-44 | - Changed use of GetZoneText() to GetRealZoneText() |
03:38.53 | CIA-44 | - Options will now say what they're set to when using the chat command |
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04:04.16 | CIA-44 | 03p3lim * r78135 10oUF_P3lim/oUF_P3lim.lua: |
04:04.16 | CIA-44 | oUF_P3lim: |
04:04.16 | CIA-44 | - Updates, not tested, stay to the release on WoWInterface.com |
04:11.02 | CIA-44 | 03p3lim * r78136 10oUF_P3lim/oUF_P3lim.lua: |
04:11.02 | CIA-44 | oUF_P3lim: |
04:11.02 | CIA-44 | - More updates, not tested, stay to the release on WoWInterface.com |
04:19.53 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78137 10Stable/ (Stable.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
04:19.53 | CIA-44 | Stable: |
04:19.53 | CIA-44 | - Moved registering of options to OnInitialize |
04:19.53 | CIA-44 | - Options now say if they're on or not in the chat options |
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04:35.49 | Tekkub | Can't contact the database server: Access denied for user 'wikiuser'@'localhost' (using password: YES) (localhost) |
04:36.05 | Tekkub | something tells me that is very bad information for an error page to give me |
04:36.59 | Tekkub | Kaelten!!!!!!!!!! WIX THE FIKI |
04:37.08 | Hjalte | But it doesn't tell you the password, aye? |
04:37.16 | Kaelten | ... |
04:37.29 | Tekkub | what if the password is "YES" ? |
04:38.16 | Hjalte | true true |
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04:38.21 | Tekkub | "WowAce Wiki has a problem" <-- that's the first step... |
04:38.32 | Tekkub | bitching at Kaelten == step two |
04:39.25 | Kaelten | :P |
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04:39.36 | Kaelten | server locked up |
04:39.39 | Kaelten | calling the hoster |
04:39.52 | Tekkub | chop chop lollypop |
04:40.05 | Tekkub | I have to use google cache here :P |
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04:43.33 | Fisker- | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
04:43.36 | Fisker- | also Tekkub |
04:43.42 | Fisker- | that 1 billion gold |
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04:47.04 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
04:47.04 | purl | beats Fisker- senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
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04:52.24 | vithos | forums down? Table './smfdb/smf_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired |
04:53.51 | Kaelten | trying to get the database and all fixed now. |
04:55.52 | CIA-44 | 03starlon * r78138 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Be a little more picky about when timers are created. |
04:57.45 | vithos | man i hate when we log in alt paladins to buff |
05:03.27 | RaydenU | what's standard tip for +35 agi to 2h? |
05:03.33 | RaydenU | it doesn't look that rare |
05:04.18 | vithos | 5 or 10g probably |
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05:05.48 | Gnarfoz | none at all |
05:06.24 | Gnarfoz | (heh, funny how in US WoW, enchanters and the like can probably actually make money with their profession ^^) |
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05:07.29 | vithos | i don't really tip because it's rare or not, just for the time and effort to do the enchant right then |
05:08.27 | RaydenU | yeah but if it's a 1500g world drop pattern they paid for... |
05:08.37 | RaydenU | tipping is a way to help them with that |
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05:16.59 | Aiiane | not to mention the (literally) 1000s of gold it takes to craft the rods needed to do top-level enchants :P |
05:21.49 | Nechckn | come now... you should always tip something |
05:22.10 | Aiiane | agrees |
05:22.11 | Nechckn | even if it's to cover the person's 2 minutes of dealing with you |
05:22.34 | Nechckn | Now... people who want mats and a tip and actively require it in /2 is another story |
05:22.38 | Aiiane | The only enchants I'll refuse to do without payment are ones which require an eternium rod |
05:22.40 | Nechckn | I won't even talk to them |
05:23.00 | Aiiane | anything else I just say "whatever you want to tip" |
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05:23.17 | Swtz | ~seen Ackis |
05:23.19 | purl | ackis <n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 2d 4h 16m 50s ago, saying: 'ahh figured it out, I'm kinda smart'. |
05:23.34 | Swtz | ~seen Ackiswork |
05:23.35 | purl | ackiswork <i=8ee557fb@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 7h 58s ago, saying: 'if they're too low they're grey?'. |
05:24.16 | Aiiane | But in general |
05:24.40 | Aiiane | if you can afford the 500+g in mats most eternium rod enchants require |
05:24.49 | Aiiane | then you should probably be able to afford at least a 5g tip |
05:24.57 | Nechckn | If I need an enchant I will always get the mats...then say I need XXX, providing materials and gratuity. |
05:25.40 | Nechckn | I usually get anything I need that way... on my enchanters I basically offer stuff for free when skilling up and dont ask for tips or anything |
05:25.59 | Nechckn | I have actually made way more that way then if I had charged for them to begin with |
05:26.26 | Nechckn | Now super high end, I'll do... if they have the mats... if they don't tip, they go on my black list |
05:26.41 | Nechckn | well, as "super high end" as I have, anyway =) |
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05:30.06 | Gnarfoz | <+Nechckn> come now... you should always tip something <-- see what I mean? it's just a mentality thing :> |
05:31.17 | Gnarfoz | tipping is almost mandatory over there, while here it's still more of a thing you do when you're especially satisified with the service you got - how can you excel at pressing a button to enchant an item for someone in a computer game ;D |
05:31.22 | Gnarfoz | just saying ;> |
05:31.30 | Gnarfoz | (I'm an enchanter, too, btw :() |
05:31.38 | Nechckn | seeing how they could be doing something to make cash... it's not like some company is paying the person to Enchant your stuff |
05:32.18 | Aiiane | exactly |
05:32.20 | Nechckn | I can understand both arguments, actually... but since I do enchant, I know what a bear it can be if people just "abuse you" |
05:33.12 | Nechckn | Plus, when I want an enchant, I want it- Now, as compared to waiting for some sap to have to advertise =) |
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05:40.07 | Orionshock | anything wrong with wowace site? |
05:41.27 | Aiiane | looks like something's wrong with squid o.o |
05:44.02 | Orionshock | anyone know of an instance where GetTradeSkillLine() would return the specilization of the craft? |
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05:53.37 | Groktar | i love the changes to spirit |
05:53.39 | Groktar | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Flak |
05:53.45 | Groktar | look at my unbuffed mp5, rofl |
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05:56.42 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r6684021 10/: Simplify readme, all docs have been moved into GitHub wiki pages |
05:56.43 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r1ec2d8b 10/: Documentation on how to use LDB data (for display addons) |
05:57.03 | Tekkub | damn readme was getting too long :) |
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06:03.50 | Kaelten | huzah |
06:05.08 | Tekkub | fixt? |
06:05.17 | Kaelten | yep |
06:05.21 | Kaelten | damndest thing |
06:05.31 | Tekkub | so Kman, what you think of LDB? :) |
06:05.33 | Kaelten | several dozen tables crashed and a user lost access to its db |
06:05.43 | Kaelten | haven't looked at it yet |
06:05.44 | Kaelten | whats it do |
06:05.46 | Kaelten | ? |
06:05.47 | Tekkub | LOK AT IT |
06:05.53 | Kaelten | gotta link? |
06:05.57 | Kaelten | for us who don't run git |
06:06.02 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
06:06.13 | Tekkub | you don't have to use git :P |
06:06.20 | Tekkub | though you SHOULD |
06:06.27 | Kaelten | I use hg :) |
06:07.06 | Kaelten | now thats a neat idea |
06:07.09 | Kaelten | could be cool |
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06:07.36 | Tekkub | you should change your addons over to it |
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06:07.41 | Kaelten | lol |
06:07.45 | Tekkub | if you ever work on your addons anymore :P |
06:07.53 | Kaelten | I do a little here and there |
06:08.09 | Tekkub | less there, more here |
06:08.49 | Kaelten | I'm going to do some new versions of onebag and kci sooner or later |
06:09.01 | Firedancer | tekkub is full of truthiness today I see :p |
06:09.06 | Tekkub | less later more sooner (at least with OB) |
06:09.26 | Tekkub | OB's one of the few Ace2 addons I have left |
06:09.33 | Kaelten | hehe |
06:09.40 | Tekkub | I thought I'd maybe just rewrite it... but then I looked in your code... |
06:09.49 | Tekkub | and I couldn't figure out how any of it worked... |
06:09.53 | Kaelten | its good code |
06:09.55 | Kaelten | hehe |
06:10.21 | Kaelten | hasn't had any major changes in going on 2 years |
06:10.23 | Kaelten | lol |
06:10.54 | Tekkub | yea I just wanted to fix the bit with bags not greying out items you've attached to a mail |
06:11.06 | Tekkub | and the whole "bag break" not working correctly in the bank |
06:11.10 | Kaelten | ya... that honestly should work... |
06:11.14 | Kaelten | not sure about bag break |
06:11.36 | Tekkub | it doesn't work until the first different bag |
06:11.37 | Kaelten | a guy tracked me down on ims today to debug a onebag issue for him |
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06:11.57 | Tekkub | like if you use 4 Netherweave Bags they don't break, but then your herb bag does |
06:12.02 | Tekkub | and everything after it |
06:12.03 | Kaelten | on some ati graphics cards with a certain driver version the blp file displays wrong |
06:12.17 | Tekkub | yea retard ex-roomie hit that one |
06:12.32 | Tekkub | all cause he can't leave his shit be |
06:12.37 | Kaelten | replacing it with a copy of the tga file |
06:12.45 | Kaelten | it won't look quite the same but it works |
06:13.10 | Tekkub | seriously, get some addon work done |
06:13.15 | Kaelten | I'd love to honestly |
06:13.27 | Tekkub | convince NeT to adopt google's 20% time for you to get some addon shit done |
06:13.33 | Kaelten | lol |
06:13.40 | Kaelten | maybe after august he'd.... maybe go for it |
06:13.48 | Kaelten | but really I'd rather curse not own my addons |
06:13.57 | Tekkub | point out how successful google is |
06:14.29 | Tekkub | 20% doesn't imply ownership :P |
06:14.46 | Kaelten | heh |
06:14.50 | Tekkub | google did it so their people could work on open source projects as well as internal ones |
06:15.05 | Kaelten | true |
06:15.15 | Kaelten | right now I'm kinda avoiding wow, I'd love to play some but I don't want to play on the server with my soon to be ex wife |
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06:16.33 | Kaelten | I need to find a new server to play on |
06:16.52 | Tekkub | so transfer :P |
06:16.54 | Tekkub | come to A52 :P |
06:19.01 | Kaelten | A52? |
06:19.37 | Tekkub | area 52 |
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06:21.50 | Kaelten | hrm |
06:21.54 | Kaelten | faction? |
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06:23.16 | erikh | I used to work for a place that did the whole 20% thing |
06:23.24 | erikh | actually, two place |
06:23.31 | erikh | if they're really behind it, it works great |
06:23.31 | Tekkub | ally mainly, but I want to switch to whorde |
06:23.43 | erikh | when they're not, it's a very frustrating situation |
06:24.08 | erikh | the second they find out you're not "making them money" they will find something, no matter how menial, for you to do |
06:24.32 | syeren | Transfer to Tichondrius! |
06:24.36 | syeren | PVP Capital of the World! |
06:24.49 | erikh | mal'ganis is good for pvp too. |
06:25.01 | Kaelten | no pvp thanks |
06:25.12 | syeren | Well transfer anywhere then. |
06:25.18 | erikh | and that battlegroup is so populated you never have to wait for queues |
06:25.21 | Tekkub | <-- doesn't believe in PvP |
06:25.23 | syeren | The scripts stay the same no matter where you are :P |
06:25.45 | erikh | <--- believes in getting gear without spending 2-3 hours finding 4 green machines to generate a repair bill for him |
06:25.53 | erikh | the rest of pvp can suck it |
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06:26.36 | erikh | anyways, why I came here... is there an alternative way of making bug reports than using the forums? |
06:27.25 | erikh | like, something that doesn't require me to hit refresh several times a day |
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06:31.21 | Orionshock | erikh: monitor the thread and wait for an email? |
06:32.05 | erikh | yeah, I guess that'll have to do. |
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06:50.46 | cnc|work | yo peeps |
06:51.12 | Wraithan | sup cnc|work |
06:51.42 | cnc|work | just arrived at work :'( |
06:51.50 | cnc|work | ain't it midnight where you are Wraithan ? :p |
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06:51.57 | Wraithan | near |
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06:52.56 | I440r | does recount use ace? i have recount installed and i got it checked off in my addon list and when i log in and type /recount show or wahtever it just gives me the Type '/help' for a listing.... |
06:53.09 | I440r | do i have some unstated dependency missing? |
06:53.24 | Orionshock | I440r: where did u download it? |
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06:53.38 | I440r | wow.curse.com |
06:53.54 | Orionshock | try from files.wowace.com |
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06:54.25 | I440r | is curse.com a trustworthy source? |
06:54.37 | Orionshock | usualy, but iirc main dev is out of wowace |
06:54.39 | I440r | i dont like the idea of their "installer" |
06:54.56 | Orionshock | ... go to the website "files.wowace.com" and look for it in the listing |
06:55.06 | Orionshock | u don't have to use WAU, ie the installer |
06:55.16 | cnc|work | I440r: you don't have to use their installer |
06:55.22 | I440r | i never do :) |
06:56.17 | I440r | ok. thers recount and recount2 |
06:56.29 | I440r | oh its pre alpha nvm |
06:56.34 | Orionshock | try recound2? |
06:56.48 | Orionshock | i don't use dmg meters anymore, so im abit out of the loop |
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06:58.37 | I440r | ok, mrecount is working now ty :) |
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07:02.19 | Elkano | <3 Pixar: http://smellycat.com.br/2008/07/04/presto-assista-o-novo-curta-da-pixar-na-integra/ |
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08:35.00 | *** topic/#wowace by nevcairiel -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Beta opt-in: https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html |
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08:59.12 | Tekkub | wheee, updates to the LDB API docs, for those who care.... http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1 |
08:59.41 | Elkano | updates are dangerous! ;) |
09:00.39 | durcyn | documentation, surely you jest |
09:01.53 | Elkano | well, you risk it becoming up2date ;) |
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09:02.12 | Tekkub | :P |
09:02.13 | Elkano | and Tekkub, text isn't required... |
09:02.26 | Tekkub | yes it is :) |
09:02.33 | Elkano | though a DO without anything in it to show makes no sense |
09:02.42 | Elkano | but in theory, no it isn't |
09:03.03 | Tekkub | if it doesn't have text, well then it's a launcher because it's not provididng data, which is the whole point of the data feed spec |
09:03.21 | Elkano | it could be providing data via the tooltip |
09:03.57 | nevcairiel | imho the launcher should support a tooltip too |
09:04.14 | Tekkub | launcher could, I just didn't write it in |
09:04.25 | Elkano | imho it shouldn't be seperated specs at all |
09:05.23 | Tekkub | the whole point is to get people to make a distinction so that people that want a minimap button menu could have one, and people that want a cluster of buttons could have that |
09:05.27 | Elkano | an nothing should be required per spec; it's common sense that implicitly generates this requirements |
09:05.46 | Elkano | eg you could also use a lable as launcher |
09:05.47 | Tekkub | and not have the confusion that we're already seeing with Fu plugins where we don't know if they provide data or not |
09:06.20 | Tekkub | yes but, first off, common sense doesn't actually happen |
09:06.31 | cnc|work | enforce common sense :p |
09:06.35 | Tekkub | and second, if they're not written down people won't implement them in the displays |
09:06.46 | durcyn | Elkano: the more descriptors the are, the better sorting can be done. if a display addon wants launchers only, it can get them. if another one wants data only, it can get them, without having to configure every single source on every single display, so why not make things easier from the get-go? |
09:06.59 | Tekkub | my specs are just a starting reccomendation, people can do whatever the fuck they want |
09:07.20 | Tekkub | but I'm not going to sit down and cover every possible maybe it's feature one addon might use |
09:07.24 | Elkano | still, I would merge the specs... if you want to go with the launcher attribute it's fine but it's still only an attribute |
09:07.31 | Tekkub | then we just have FuBar again :P |
09:08.09 | Elkano | yeah, but I see no reason in splitting the specs, just say that the launcher attribute is commonly set to indicate it does only provide a OnClick handler |
09:08.44 | Tekkub | hrm... |
09:09.21 | Elkano | since currently most of the stuff is presented twice, once for each spec |
09:10.13 | Tekkub | present your case in the thread, we'll discuss :) |
09:10.24 | Tekkub | actually, let me make a thread specifically for LDB |
09:11.21 | Elkano | and the current specs around OnTooltipShow, OnEnter and tooltip is a bit disturbing |
09:11.39 | Tekkub | why? |
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09:12.26 | Tekkub | I use OnEnter, funkey wants to controll his tooltips in SBC, someone else mentioned a static tooltip text option for addons that just want a hint or such |
09:12.34 | Kuosi | 12:07:24 < Elkano> still, I would merge the specs... if you want to go with the launcher attribute it's fine but it's still only an attribute |
09:12.37 | Kuosi | 12:07:24 < Elkano> still, I would merge the specs... if you want to go with the launcher attribute it's fine but it's still only an attribute |
09:12.40 | Kuosi | 12:07:24 < Elkano> still, I would merge the specs... if you want to go with the launcher attribute it's fine but it's still only an attribute |
09:12.43 | Kuosi | 12:07:24 < Elkano> still, I would merge the specs... if you want to go with the launcher attribute it's fine but it's still only an attribute |
09:12.47 | Kuosi | oh |
09:12.47 | Tekkub | ... |
09:12.49 | Kuosi | sry bout that :( |
09:12.56 | Elkano | you fail at c&p |
09:13.06 | Kuosi | no i fail at cleaning mouse :O |
09:13.14 | Elkano | ^^ |
09:13.20 | Tekkub | Elkano, OnEnter would be a required think for clickable tooltips to work too, the abominations that they are.. |
09:13.31 | Kuosi | irssi+mousescroll = you get taht |
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09:16.53 | Elkano | hmm... the tooltips could turn out to be a problem in case the displays don't implement all three ways :/ |
09:17.25 | Elkano | but at least I now understand the need for these ^^ |
09:17.27 | Tekkub | well, that'll be up to people to complain to the display's dev if the issues crop up |
09:17.49 | Tekkub | ideally though, the OnTooltipShow is the one everyone should implement |
09:18.14 | Tekkub | OnEnter should be preffered over that if present, just due to the clicky tips |
09:18.39 | Tekkub | but the display might give the user an option in how it anchors the tip, or let the addon handle it |
09:19.03 | Elkano | OnTooltipShow = function(frame) frame:AddLine("Your display sucks!") end ;) |
09:19.16 | Tekkub | that'd probably be the best way... "Anchor to frame", "Attach to mouse", "Let plugin manage" |
09:23.06 | Tekkub | okey elky, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14165.0 |
09:23.10 | Tekkub | have your say :) |
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11:29.41 | KriLL3 | anyone knows of a good kos/crafter list addon(s)? |
11:30.09 | KriLL3 | don't like adding all crafters I know to my buddy list, I don't need to know when they log on, and I have yet to find a good kos addon |
11:30.13 | Aiiane | notepad? :P |
11:30.18 | Aiiane | (sorry, being facetious) |
11:30.32 | KriLL3 | I'll take your apology into consideration |
11:30.36 | KriLL3 | ;) |
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11:36.33 | selckin | uhm :g |
11:36.37 | selckin | <PROTECTED> |
11:36.59 | cnc|work | interface menu -> social tab -> enable guild alerts |
11:38.27 | CIA-44 | 03diablohu * r78140 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
11:38.27 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
11:38.28 | CIA-44 | - zhCN update |
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11:44.04 | Orionshock | KriLL3: if you both have the addon, guildcraft works :D |
11:44.36 | erikh | is there a bot in here that can provide a description for a mod? |
11:45.06 | Orionshock | erikh: no, purl can but it's frowned upon |
11:45.11 | erikh | I just read about things I've never used before in here, it'd be nice to get a quick description without having to leave the conversation |
11:45.17 | erikh | Orionshock: oh, I can msg it |
11:45.26 | erikh | does it actually stay current with wowace though? |
11:45.33 | erikh | purl is used in a lot of other contextts. |
11:45.40 | profalbert | ~ldb |
11:45.41 | purl | it has been said that ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
11:45.49 | Orionshock | purl is a general use bot, ppl can set descriptions to addons, but doing so is generaly frowned upon unless it's a major addon |
11:45.50 | profalbert | something like that? |
11:46.00 | profalbert | ~arl |
11:46.01 | purl | [arl] a poorly named add-on (8% lame), 94% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however, and where to get them |
11:46.13 | erikh | Orionshock: yeah, i'm familiar with purl outside of #wowace |
11:46.28 | Orionshock | other than that, files.wowace.com 's general listing has the addon's short description on the page |
11:46.28 | cnc|work | ~nickometer AckisRecipeList |
11:46.48 | erikh | profalbert: I was hoping for an actual irc bot.. it's not a big deal |
11:47.11 | profalbert | ~nickometer flexbar |
11:47.21 | cnc|work | ~win |
11:47.21 | purl | hmm... win is lose. |
11:47.24 | erikh | I could barf one out, but it seems like you guys would prefer I didn't |
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11:49.39 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt bother wasting time writing something like that now anyway |
11:50.06 | Orionshock | could always get one that pulls from file site dynamicly? |
11:51.10 | nevcairiel | as long as files doesnt change :p |
11:51.23 | erikh | I'd just use the WAU index. |
11:51.52 | erikh | most of the code would be the xpath expressions :) |
11:52.56 | erikh | maybe tomorrow for the hell of it I'll put one together, and you guys can tell me if it sucks or not. it won't take long. |
11:56.08 | Fisker- | ~nickmeter flexbar |
11:56.09 | purl | flexbar is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
11:58.04 | cnc|work | purl, forget nickmeter flexbar |
11:58.04 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'nickmeter flexbar' to forget, cnc|work |
11:59.35 | elite3vil | cnc|work: forgot the "o" in nickometer |
11:59.51 | Elkano | ~nickmeter cnc|work |
11:59.51 | purl | cnc|work is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
11:59.58 | elite3vil | maybe not.. |
12:00.03 | Elkano | ~literal nickmeter |
12:00.46 | cnc|work | ~literal nickmeter flexbar |
12:00.46 | purl | flexbar is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
12:00.55 | cnc|work | purl, forget "nickmeter flexbar" |
12:00.55 | purl | i didn't have anything called '"nickmeter flexbar"' to forget, cnc|work |
12:00.59 | cnc|work | hmm, weird |
12:01.27 | profalbert | ~nickmeter oijweuifwhefojewf |
12:01.28 | purl | oijweuifwhefojewf is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
12:01.42 | cnc|work | ~nickmeter whatavah |
12:01.43 | purl | whatavah is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
12:01.46 | cnc|work | I see |
12:01.48 | cnc|work | purl, forget nickmeter |
12:01.48 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'nickmeter' to forget, cnc|work |
12:01.49 | Elkano | ~literal literal |
12:01.50 | purl | "literal" is "<reply>Leave me alone you! I won't reveal my secrets!" |
12:01.57 | nevcairiel | ~literal nickmeter (.+) |
12:01.57 | purl | (.+) is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
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12:02.04 | cnc|work | ah |
12:02.16 | Elkano | ~literal nickmeter |
12:02.23 | Elkano | ~literal asl |
12:02.23 | purl | "asl" is "<reply> Old enough, yes please, my place." |
12:02.31 | Elkano | hmm.... |
12:02.36 | Elkano | ~nickmeter |
12:03.01 | Elkano | ~nickmeter l33t_h4x0r |
12:03.01 | purl | l33t_h4x0r is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
12:03.12 | Elkano | ok, no idea :/ |
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12:03.45 | cnc|work | purl, forget nickmeter (.+) |
12:03.45 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'nickmeter (.+)' to forget, cnc|work |
12:03.52 | cnc|work | ~anoyed |
12:04.17 | cnc|work | ~nickometer Fisker- |
12:04.24 | Funkeh` | ~nickmeter Funkeh` |
12:04.25 | purl | Funkeh` is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
12:04.30 | cnc|work | you are 14% lame Fisker-, they're o denying it |
12:04.30 | Funkeh` | ~~~~~~~~ |
12:04.31 | purl | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
12:04.34 | cnc|work | stop cheating |
12:06.45 | Elkano | ~nickometer Funkeh` |
12:06.56 | cnc|work | ~nickometer purl |
12:07.03 | Funkeh` | lol |
12:07.03 | cnc|work | nah, thats a lie |
12:07.08 | Elkano | ~nickometer cnc|work |
12:07.15 | nevcairiel | it only picks up on stupid special chars or numbers |
12:07.18 | Elkano | ~nickometer Elkano |
12:07.18 | cnc|work | ~nickometer cncfanatics |
12:07.25 | Elkano | thought so |
12:07.28 | cnc|work | not true nevcairiel |
12:07.32 | cnc|work | ~nickometer ckknight |
12:07.42 | nevcairiel | or the truth |
12:07.49 | Orphis | -nickometer Orphis |
12:07.54 | cnc|work | ~fail Orphis |
12:07.55 | purl | Orphis: FAIL! |
12:07.56 | nevcairiel | its probably because of the knight in it |
12:08.08 | cnc|work | yea I think so nevcairiel |
12:08.10 | Orphis | :( |
12:08.29 | nevcairiel | mmm toasted waffles |
12:08.32 | Orphis | ~nickometer Orphis |
12:08.37 | cnc|work | ~nickometer 0rph1s |
12:08.47 | Orphis | Hey ! |
12:08.51 | cnc|work | :p |
12:09.04 | cnc|work | ~nickometer 1337 |
12:09.10 | cnc|work | thats all N |
12:09.11 | cnc|work | ? |
12:09.27 | Orphis | The problem is that shiny new IRC client, the font isn't big enough and I haven't made the difference between - and ~ |
12:09.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
12:09.45 | nevcairiel | that has to be small |
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12:10.07 | Orphis | A difference of two aliased pixels |
12:10.31 | Xinhuan | ~factoid asl |
12:10.31 | purl | ACTION gives asl a cup of trinitrotoluene |
12:11.04 | Xinhuan | ~dict trinitrotoluene |
12:11.25 | Xinhuan | ~dict toluene |
12:11.30 | nevcairiel | trinitrotoluene is TNT |
12:11.36 | nevcairiel | if that explains some stuff :p |
12:11.48 | Xinhuan | ~lart nevcairiel |
12:11.48 | purl | --purges nevcairiel |
12:11.51 | Elkano | ~dict trinitrotoluol |
12:11.59 | cnc|work | sigh |
12:12.13 | cnc|work | don't you hate people that call you, ask to be transfered to someone, and while you're transfering them they fucking HANG UP ? |
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12:19.54 | ckknight | http://mundy.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/12/19/portal.jpg |
12:20.26 | FinalX | heh :) |
12:20.32 | Oridan | nevcairiel: i have another fix for LibBars, if you call Fade on a bar that is already fading (or one that is about to fade) you get a nil error on fadeTotal. I simply added a check at barPrototype.Fade to break out if fading == true. Mind if i commit it ? |
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12:55.31 | winkiller | are there still any unitframes around that are strongly based on blizz default? as in.. maybe just out of range fading and stuff |
12:56.15 | Kuosi | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8908-ExtendedUnitFrames.html |
12:56.56 | winkiller | cool thanks |
12:57.07 | cnc|work | lol |
12:57.10 | cnc|work | *really* light |
12:57.13 | cnc|work | ahem, it uses dogtag :p |
12:57.52 | winkiller | I don't care about anything. the girl wants it to look like the default, aynthing else is not important :P |
12:58.01 | cnc|work | lol |
12:58.09 | cnc|work | why ? :p |
12:58.13 | cnc|work | default sucks monkey balls |
12:58.24 | Kuosi | some like it, some dont :P |
12:58.31 | winkiller | I know, but you know.. girls :P |
12:58.52 | cnc|work | well, did she even try something other then blizz ? |
12:58.57 | winkiller | yes |
12:59.03 | cnc|work | what ? |
12:59.12 | winkiller | pitbull and xperl |
12:59.24 | winkiller | even something similar to this eUF in 2006 |
12:59.33 | winkiller | that just added % behind the bars |
12:59.36 | Kuosi | i like how the buffsystem works on blizz frames |
12:59.39 | Kuosi | but thats about it |
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12:59.56 | Kuosi | I dont want a massive potrait with tiny hp bar and equal size power bar |
13:00.57 | winkiller | I havepitbull with a massive portrait :P |
13:00.59 | cnc|work | Kuosi: most idiots too |
13:04.33 | Kuosi | been using ag since forever |
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13:05.40 | CIA-44 | 03kunda * r78141 10Cromulent/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): Cromulent: fix externals |
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13:21.27 | CIA-44 | 03kunda * r78142 10Cromulent/Cromulent.toc: Cromulent: toc update |
13:22.40 | phyber | noes, which externals did I forget this time :p |
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13:23.59 | phyber | ah, i see. |
13:24.09 | phyber | I still don't know why lib.xml loading is preferred over just loading the .lua though. |
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13:24.33 | Josh_Borke | phyber: lib.xml is easier for excluding files from loading |
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13:24.52 | phyber | Josh_Borke: that a WAU thing then? |
13:25.18 | Josh_Borke | no, it's a design thing |
13:25.28 | Josh_Borke | you can include multiple libraries in a lib.xml |
13:25.45 | Josh_Borke | so when you decide to disembed, you can delete the lib.xml and it won't try to load any of those libraries |
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13:26.54 | phyber | I see. But wasn't that supposed to be the point of embeds.xml too? |
13:27.08 | phyber | that you could delete that one file and then not load anything since it would all disembed? |
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13:30.38 | Josh_Borke | yes |
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13:32.29 | Funkeh` | lob.xml was designed ebcaue of ui reloading |
13:32.34 | Funkeh` | you're thinking of embeds.xml |
13:32.37 | Funkeh` | lib* |
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13:33.09 | Funkeh` | it's also much easier when it comes to making changed to the lib, it's all automatic if you point to an xml file |
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13:34.37 | ckknight | Funkeh`: actually the primary reason for lib.xml was allowing multi-file libraries, and allowing authors to change their lib structure after initial release |
13:34.55 | Funkeh` | pretty sure thats what I just said |
13:35.07 | nevcairiel | you said something about ui reloading o.O |
13:35.24 | Funkeh` | you missed 3 lines after that |
13:35.57 | ckknight | sorry, I'm in a haze |
13:35.59 | ckknight | just worked out |
13:36.05 | Funkeh` | lol? |
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13:36.08 | Vulcanus | Drugs are bad, mmmkay? |
13:36.20 | ckknight | but it wasn't _designed_ because of ui reloading |
13:36.57 | nevcairiel | how can you even design something for ui reloading? :P |
13:36.57 | Funkeh` | true, but that was one of the positives |
13:37.21 | Funkeh` | loaing and unloading of files without exiting the game etc |
13:37.23 | Funkeh` | arg |
13:37.25 | Funkeh` | loading |
13:37.37 | nevcairiel | that does the xml have to do with that? |
13:37.55 | Funkeh` | toc changes require game restart |
13:37.58 | Funkeh` | xml files dont |
13:38.35 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that automagically adds set quests/instances upon entering the game or taking the daily HC quest etc? |
13:40.49 | Funkeh` | is there any way to get the text of a shown tooltip to strfind on it or etc ? |
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13:44.02 | phyber | I used to have: GameTooltipTextLeft2:GetText() in ManaPerc to get the mana a spell used. I can't find that stuff on wowwiki though. |
13:44.37 | phyber | There is a :NumLines() thing for the GameTooltip too, something in there must let you go over all of the lines. :| |
13:45.00 | phyber | http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_GameTooltip |
13:45.04 | phyber | ah, it's on a different page. |
13:45.26 | Funkeh` | actually I just want the first line |
13:45.31 | Funkeh` | to seach it |
13:46.26 | Funkeh` | GameTooltipTextLeft1:GetText() works, thanks |
13:46.34 | phyber | :) |
13:47.48 | KriLL3 | What's the difference between bartender3 and 4, and can you switch sans re-doing all our bars? |
13:49.43 | cnc|work | KriLL3: kind of |
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13:49.48 | cnc|work | actions of buttons are saved serverside |
13:49.50 | cnc|work | so these will stay |
13:50.01 | cnc|work | but button locations & other settings are saved client side, so you'd have to ask nevcariel for those :p |
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14:26.33 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78143 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
14:26.33 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
14:26.33 | CIA-44 | - strictly follow current LDB-1.1 spec until something is decided in the LDB forum thread |
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14:56.48 | Pkekyo| | lmao...67 year old guy is denied buying a pack of cigarettes 'cause he doesn't have ID on him (age restriction for tobacco is 18 years) |
14:57.12 | FinalX | lol |
14:57.25 | Gagorian | Swedes *shakes head* |
14:57.31 | Pkekyo| | the clerk was 17 :> |
14:57.59 | Pkekyo| | I'm definitively doing that if I ever get a job as a clerk |
15:01.08 | Vulcanus | who broekeded WAU servur |
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15:09.14 | Zyndrome | http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna |
15:09.16 | Zyndrome | nerf :\ |
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15:20.35 | ag` | Zyndrome, looks nice |
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15:25.25 | starlon | [2008/07/09 10:22:40-4191-x80]: StarTip-1.0\Modules\Text.lua:96: attempt to compare nil with number |
15:25.39 | starlon | That's fine and all, but line #96 is blank... |
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15:30.05 | ckknight | does anyone know a way to get the x, y coordinates of instances? It doesn't necessarily have to be in-game |
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15:30.58 | Trell_ | quick question, can I set grid up so that it will switch raid layout depending on zone? |
15:31.04 | Trell_ | or is that a bit technically challenging :P |
15:31.25 | Trell_ | ie, AV - Raid Layout = 40 w/o pets, AB - Raid Layout = 15 w/o pets |
15:31.48 | Kuosi | there was some DynamicLayout plugin for grid wasnt there? |
15:31.52 | Kuosi | dunno how it works tho |
15:32.04 | Trell_ | mmm any idea where I can find that? |
15:32.22 | ckknight | (btw, that's for portal entrances, not the instance texture or anything) |
15:32.34 | Kuosi | o jave a gppd jimcj pf http://files.wowace.com/ |
15:32.39 | Kuosi | nice typing |
15:32.43 | Kuosi | i have a good hunch of |
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15:33.23 | Kuosi | http://files.wowace.com/GridDynamicZoneSwitch/GridDynamicZoneSwitch-r60707.18.zip |
15:33.29 | Kuosi | http://files.wowace.com/GridDynamicLayout/GridDynamicLayout-r76960.zip |
15:33.30 | Kuosi | try those |
15:33.43 | Trell_ | thanks! |
15:33.45 | elite3vil | http://files.wowace.com/GridAutoFrameSize/GridAutoFrameSize-r74864.zip |
15:34.03 | elite3vil | That one will resize it depending on the size of the raid |
15:34.31 | KriLL3 | anyone know of a good addon for adding graphics to the UI? |
15:35.18 | Trell_ | eepanels2 |
15:35.27 | Trell_ | about the only one, isn't it? |
15:35.59 | KriLL3 | It's listed as outdated |
15:36.18 | Trell_ | it isn't |
15:36.22 | Trell_ | outdated, I mean |
15:36.26 | Trell_ | I'm still using it fine |
15:36.28 | Dashkal | KriLL3: I gear kgpanels does the same thing, but I can tell you for myself that eepanels works |
15:36.29 | KriLL3 | there is a kgPanels though "sucessor to eePanels" |
15:36.51 | Trell_ | *shrug* eepanels is what I use, and have done for a while now |
15:36.54 | Kuosi | kgpanels |
15:39.49 | Trell_ | GridAutoFrameSize looks like it'll do what I need, thanks elite3vil |
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15:41.07 | elite3vil | Anytime. |
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15:48.50 | Tidrus | Hellow! |
15:50.08 | Tidrus | Free Pre-Paid? Go to: http://www.beepremium4free.com/register.php?f=1993 register and get your free Pre-Paid ! |
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15:51.07 | AckisWork | wtf was that? |
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15:52.46 | sb | mhh Fubar2Broker needs OnClick support :o |
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15:56.38 | Stanzilla | indeed |
15:58.10 | Wraithan | any decent way to sync the wtf folder between 2-3 computers? |
15:58.43 | Vulcanus | HAI GUISE. I cen tel u wan bai gold. ye? u go to mi site, ubaigoldnowkeke.cn ^.^ |
15:59.05 | Vulcanus | wraith: maybe putting it on an SVN |
15:59.12 | Vulcanus | you can get a free one at assembla.com |
15:59.12 | Wraithan | bleh |
15:59.54 | Wraithan | I have my own svn server on my dev box, seems like a messy way to do it and if I forget to commit it I will end up with a merging nightmare |
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16:01.56 | selckin | use git |
16:02.21 | Wraithan | I will still have to resolve all the differences |
16:02.23 | Xinhuan | or run wow off a portable drive |
16:02.28 | Xinhuan | so you dn't have to sync anything |
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16:04.19 | selckin | if only you could easily do bind mounts of symlinks in window |
16:04.38 | Xinhuan | he said "across several computers" |
16:04.44 | Xinhuan | not several folders |
16:04.56 | [3]Artmi | I'm trying to start out with trying to learn about world of warcraft add-ons, and possibly by using wowace at the same time, anyone here know of smaller add-ons, preferably with some comments in them? |
16:04.59 | nevcairiel | nfs! |
16:05.22 | Xinhuan | artmi, start with your own addons, browse thru them |
16:05.34 | Xinhuan | the lesser the number of files in the addon folder, the smaller it is ;p |
16:05.54 | selckin | Xinhuan: well to easily script it being on a usb device |
16:06.09 | Wraithan | Xinhuan: unless they use a monolithic approach heh |
16:06.44 | [3]Artmi | Xinhuan, that is obvious, but most add-ons have a pretty hefty amount of code, with low to no comments |
16:06.49 | [3]Artmi | :P |
16:07.02 | Xinhuan | hate to break it to you, small addons rarely need comments :) |
16:07.08 | Xinhuan | because what they do is obvious |
16:07.21 | [3]Artmi | well the code isn't confusing per se |
16:07.27 | nevcairiel | lua code is easy to understand, very few addons are heavily commented |
16:07.34 | [3]Artmi | i'm just trying to bring all the pieces together, lua by itself is easy as heck using |
16:07.49 | Xinhuan | gathermate is heavily commented! so is routes, but neither are small ;p |
16:07.54 | nevcairiel | ~wowprogramming |
16:07.55 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
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16:08.05 | nevcairiel | if you can spare a few dollars and are serious about learning |
16:08.07 | nevcairiel | buy that book |
16:08.07 | [3]Artmi | nevcairiel, i've ordered it, will take about a week |
16:08.10 | [3]Artmi | before i get it though |
16:08.12 | nevcairiel | ah :) |
16:08.19 | [3]Artmi | so want something to do in the mean time hehe |
16:08.46 | Xinhuan | well you could start by writing a small addon to do something you want |
16:08.48 | Xinhuan | something simple |
16:08.51 | nevcairiel | there are some tutorials to start with |
16:09.25 | Xinhuan | for example, write a addon to switch the reputation bar to the rep you just gained (there are such addons already, but you could try your own, then refer to the available ones) |
16:09.49 | [3]Artmi | aye good idea, could always start out with small simple, none usefull th ings =)= |
16:09.53 | [3]Artmi | and work my way up |
16:10.02 | Xinhuan | the most important thing is to download and extract out the "core default blizzard ui" out |
16:10.09 | Xinhuan | and study how the blizzard ui code works |
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16:10.23 | Arrowmaster | and where the blizzard ui code fails |
16:10.43 | [3]Artmi | well, what confuses me about blizzards xml(ui code) |
16:10.48 | [3]Artmi | is just all frames and stuff like that |
16:10.55 | [3]Artmi | what are they usefull for |
16:10.59 | Xinhuan | reason being most of the time, the documentation on API is found by studying blizzard code |
16:11.08 | Xinhuan | and inferred from there |
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16:12.53 | Xinhuan | xml is used to define frames (they can also be defined and created directly using lua code) |
16:13.10 | [3]Artmi | Aye but more importantly, what exactly "is a frame" |
16:13.18 | [3]Artmi | i mean, looking through their code, they can nests frame as hell |
16:13.27 | Xinhuan | a frame is a rectagular region (usually movable) |
16:13.30 | nevcairiel | well a frame is generally something you see |
16:13.32 | Xinhuan | which you can do stuff with |
16:13.34 | nevcairiel | like a window |
16:13.35 | [3]Artmi | such as: <Frames> <frame><frames><frame> |
16:13.39 | Xinhuan | yes |
16:13.43 | Xinhuan | a frame can contain child frames |
16:13.53 | [3]Artmi | Is <Frames> a container, containing one or more <Frame>? |
16:13.59 | nevcairiel | nah |
16:14.08 | Xinhuan | so when you move a parent frame, all thechild frames move with it, hide with it, etc |
16:14.10 | nevcairiel | XML syntax is a bit more confusing |
16:14.10 | Fisker- | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
16:14.27 | Xinhuan | <Frames> is just a xml indicator that everything that is between <Frames> </Frames> are child frames |
16:14.31 | nevcairiel | you always have a <Frame ...> parent |
16:14.45 | nevcairiel | (that Frame can be something else though, like Button) |
16:14.45 | Xinhuan | a frame is defined by <Frame ...> </Frame> |
16:14.49 | [3]Artmi | okey, and the parent from what i've seen is UIParent or something |
16:14.54 | [3]Artmi | at least in blizzards code |
16:15.04 | Xinhuan | a frame doesn't necesariily need a parent |
16:15.06 | nevcairiel | UIParent is the default parent, yes |
16:15.21 | Xinhuan | if you anchor it to UIParent, it will hide on pressing alt-z, which hides the frame called UIParent |
16:15.27 | Xinhuan | parent it to UIParent that is |
16:15.28 | [3]Artmi | Okey |
16:16.01 | xemacs | hey there is the packagemaintainer of AuldLangSyne available? |
16:16.02 | nevcairiel | your addon frames should always parent to UIParent (if directly or indirectly) to inherit the UIScale and behave with alt-z |
16:16.03 | [3]Artmi | What if for example, i have a Parent frame, which have a few children frames. When moving the parent frame, all ch ildren will be moved with it |
16:16.15 | [3]Artmi | can Children frames be moved separatly? |
16:16.19 | Xinhuan | yes |
16:16.28 | nevcairiel | That all depends on anchoring |
16:16.34 | [3]Artmi | Ok |
16:16.37 | nevcairiel | You can anchor a frame relative to your parent |
16:16.40 | Xinhuan | in XML, the movable=true needs to be set, or framename:SetMovable(true) |
16:16.41 | nevcairiel | or absolute |
16:16.43 | Xinhuan | in lua |
16:17.07 | Xinhuan | "frame" is just a generic word, there are more specific frames types, such as <Button> <Editbox> etc |
16:17.13 | [3]Artmi | Seing as you can either use a Lua or XML file for the frames, what is the preferred way? |
16:17.16 | Xinhuan | which are also all frames |
16:17.19 | [3]Artmi | ok |
16:17.23 | [3]Artmi | -a |
16:17.26 | Xinhuan | the preferred way is just to use pure lua |
16:17.37 | nevcairiel | thats personal preference really |
16:17.42 | profalbert | !points 1800 |
16:17.42 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
16:17.43 | nevcairiel | everyone has to find their way :) |
16:17.47 | Xinhuan | as that is one less file to load, and its easier to set stuff in lua, than in verbose xml |
16:17.50 | profalbert | !rating 1800 |
16:17.50 | Xinhuan | 1800 rating gives 760(5s), 669(3s) and 578(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
16:18.04 | profalbert | !rating 1700 |
16:18.05 | Xinhuan | 1700 rating gives 607(5s), 534(3s) and 461(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
16:18.06 | [3]Artmi | Xinhuan, any projets doing it directly in Lua then, mayby i could learn a few things |
16:18.09 | [3]Artmi | from reading the source |
16:18.19 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: some people can visualize a frame layout better from using XML ;) |
16:18.24 | Xinhuan | most addons on wowace dont' use xml |
16:18.28 | [3]Artmi | okey |
16:18.55 | Xinhuan | if they use an xml, they only use it as a loading mechanism, using the xml file to specify other files to load |
16:19.16 | [3]Artmi | "load files" as in other libraries? |
16:19.20 | Xinhuan | yes |
16:19.26 | [3]Artmi | meaning embeds.xml? |
16:19.37 | Xinhuan | lib.xml, embed.xml is a "wowace recognized standard.. sorta |
16:19.44 | [3]Artmi | ok |
16:19.49 | Xinhuan | although an informal one at that |
16:20.25 | [3]Artmi | I see most projects on wowace uses a lib directory, with for example Ace2/3 |
16:20.35 | Xinhuan | that again, is just an informal standard |
16:20.36 | [3]Artmi | isn't it possible to just use the installed ace2/3 one has on the system for the projects |
16:20.42 | Xinhuan | you can call it "abc" instead of "lib" |
16:20.44 | Xinhuan | if you want |
16:21.00 | profalbert | that would be running it "disembedded" |
16:21.02 | [3]Artmi | How would i go about that, would i just use the Dependencies: column in the toc file? or is that just informational as well? |
16:21.06 | Xinhuan | or even choose not to use subfolders |
16:21.27 | Xinhuan | that probably goes beyond your current understanding of how addon libraries work |
16:21.43 | nevcairiel | [3]Artmi: Dependencies and OptDep are not only informational, the game reads those and loads addons accordingly |
16:21.52 | [3]Artmi | ok |
16:22.26 | Xinhuan | consider in windows, the "open" and "save" and "print" etc dialog boxes look the same in all applications |
16:22.39 | Xinhuan | that's because those dialog boxes are the same library that comes with windows |
16:22.53 | Xinhuan | mscomctrl.dll i think |
16:22.59 | Xinhuan | microsoft common controls |
16:24.13 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: damn you! |
16:24.19 | nevcairiel | what? |
16:24.26 | Kaelten | pinging me |
16:24.27 | Kaelten | sniffs |
16:24.34 | nevcairiel | i did? |
16:24.34 | [3]Artmi | What is libstub good for, about all ace addons seem to be using it? |
16:24.42 | Kaelten | lol |
16:24.53 | KriLL3 | bt4 doesn't work with fubar? :( |
16:24.56 | Kaelten | nevcairiel |
16:24.56 | Kaelten | : ~wowprogramming |
16:25.00 | nevcairiel | ah |
16:25.02 | nevcairiel | that |
16:25.03 | Kaelten | :P |
16:25.10 | Xinhuan | libstub is a library used to version other libraries |
16:25.15 | [3]Artmi | ok |
16:25.22 | nevcairiel | a library stub .. :) |
16:25.30 | Xinhuan | lets say addon A uses libraryX, and libraryY, but addon B uses libraryY and libraryZ |
16:25.43 | Xinhuan | if you downloaded A and B separately with all the libraries included (which is 2 copies of Y) |
16:25.45 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: if they all take there shoes off you have an orgy |
16:25.55 | Xinhuan | libstub determines which one is newer and keeps the newer one in memory |
16:26.02 | [3]Artmi | aaah |
16:26.56 | Xinhuan | alternatively, if you downloaded and installed library X and Y separately as standalone addons, then A and B can be used without any libraries included, as long as X and Y and Z is loaded first (via Optional Depedencies in the TOC) |
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16:26.57 | Kaelten | bah, I'll stop my off color humor and let people talk seriously |
16:27.00 | [3]Artmi | That could lead to problems though, if library Y has had a major version released. And add-on A would be realying on a function in Lib y that doesn't exist in the neweer version :) |
16:27.27 | Xinhuan | in major releases, libstub keeps both libs around in memory |
16:27.33 | Xinhuan | they are considered 2 separate and independant libs |
16:27.38 | [3]Artmi | ok |
16:27.51 | Xinhuan | so a library has version number 1.0 |
16:27.55 | Xinhuan | 1.1 would be a minor upgrade |
16:27.59 | Xinhuan | and overwrites |
16:28.05 | [3]Artmi | yepp major.minor |
16:28.05 | Xinhuan | 2.0 would be a new major release, a different lib |
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16:36.03 | p3lim | did naxx attunement get removed? |
16:36.36 | Stanzilla | no |
16:36.38 | Pkekyo| | don't think so |
16:37.22 | p3lim | cant remember |
16:41.40 | sacarasc | still there |
16:42.08 | Fisker- | halp |
16:42.32 | CIA-44 | 03ckknight * r78144 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0: add an API function :GetEntrancePortalLocation(instance), which returns the zone, x, and y of the portal location for said instance. |
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16:51.10 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: actually we consider 1.0 -> 1.1 a major upgrade already |
16:51.24 | Josh_Borke | ~fail Xinhuan |
16:51.25 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Xinhuan. I hate you because you fail. |
16:51.28 | Xinhuan | well yeah ~_~ |
16:51.53 | nevcairiel | it'll most likely mean that the API broke |
16:51.59 | nevcairiel | but the general lib is still the same |
16:52.07 | nevcairiel | while 1.0 -> 2.0 means its probably a complete new thing |
16:52.37 | Josh_Borke | now you're just talking semantics |
16:52.51 | nevcairiel | true |
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16:58.35 | NeoTron_ | so I really hate when I get burn, start runnig and someone next to me decides to be "helpful" moving "out of my way" |
16:58.52 | NeoTron_ | when I had a clear path to begin with and all they do is ensure the fire spreads to them by stepping right in front of me |
16:59.55 | CIA-44 | 03ckknight * r78145 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - Terrokar Forest => Terokkar Forest |
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17:12.29 | Arrowmaster | dont you fucking hate it when youre talking to tech support and you solve the problem yourself because they cant..... |
17:13.17 | Arrowmaster | trying to signup for PlaystationNetwork and keep getting an error on the OnlineID and then discover that anything over 10 characters long is failing even though it says you can use up to 16 characters |
17:13.21 | Ellipsis | why even bother calling them x.x |
17:13.36 | Arrowmaster | i tend not to |
17:13.43 | Arrowmaster | because this always happens |
17:13.50 | Arrowmaster | always |
17:14.10 | Ellipsis | imo you just need to get a shorter name :P |
17:14.54 | Arrowmaster | i have an aim account from back when names were limited to 10 characters too |
17:15.14 | Arrowmaster | although i created a new one after the limit was increased |
17:15.34 | Wraithan | Arrowmaster: I have used the same AIM account for at least 10 years |
17:17.16 | clad|away | the best is comparing your ICQ e-peen |
17:17.18 | clad|away | see how low your number is |
17:17.23 | clad|away | I can't find mine, but it was low :P |
17:18.21 | Wraithan | mine was high, I didn't get into ICQ untill the 200000 range |
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17:20.25 | NeoTron_ | ICQ just need to die |
17:20.30 | NeoTron_ | it's such a spam haven |
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17:23.52 | Stanzilla | ~seen Tekkub |
17:24.05 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 55s ago, saying: 'have your say :)'. |
17:24.05 | Arrowmaster | 80000000 range for me i think |
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17:28.51 | Benihime | p3lim there's something wrong with the last update of oUF_p3lim |
17:29.11 | p3lim | yup |
17:29.12 | Benihime | Layout is kinda messed up |
17:29.16 | p3lim | i know |
17:29.30 | Benihime | so ur working on it ? |
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17:32.33 | CIA-44 | 03scorpio0920 * r78146 10Capping/locals/localization-zhTW.lua: |
17:32.33 | CIA-44 | Capping: |
17:32.33 | CIA-44 | - Update zhTW localization. (Thanks s8095324) |
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17:59.05 | [3]Artmi | When messing around with the combat log, exactly which arg contains source / target? |
17:59.38 | [3]Artmi | example: I(player) shoot a fireball(event) at target(mob / another player) |
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18:00.44 | selckin | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
18:00.44 | [3]Artmi | thanks |
18:00.44 | Groktar | what other combat text mods are out there, other than sct? |
18:01.00 | Groktar | i was using one on the 2.4ptr but can't remember the name |
18:01.01 | profalbert | Groktar: Parrot, MSBT |
18:01.05 | Groktar | ty |
18:01.20 | Groktar | know it i can change the strata on either one? |
18:01.27 | Groktar | i like to keep my grid in the middle of the screen |
18:01.35 | Groktar | and it drives me nuts that SCT will cover it |
18:01.56 | profalbert | in parrot the strata is fix, and can only be changed in the .lua |
18:02.00 | selckin | msbt is easy to configure where the text comes |
18:02.32 | Groktar | kk |
18:03.14 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: how can i get MagicMarker to mark the sunblade scouts in Sunwell as burn down targets? It aways wants to assign Tank#1 to them |
18:03.36 | NeoTron_ | nevcairiel: set the to category crowd control and check the "burn down" as acceptable CC method |
18:03.42 | nevcairiel | i did |
18:03.48 | nevcairiel | I have skull as burn down |
18:03.53 | nevcairiel | i still get star on them |
18:03.57 | NeoTron_ | hmm |
18:03.58 | nevcairiel | which is Tank1 |
18:04.04 | NeoTron_ | is skull assigned to anything else? |
18:04.17 | NeoTron_ | I'd make their CC priority the highest too if you haven't |
18:04.43 | nevcairiel | i did |
18:04.47 | nevcairiel | lowest on tank |
18:04.47 | selckin | my gm never got it working properly after 3-4 days with wierd marked mobs and gave up :( |
18:04.50 | nevcairiel | highest on cc |
18:04.58 | nevcairiel | skull is last position in tank |
18:05.01 | nevcairiel | if thats important |
18:05.10 | NeoTron_ | is skull used on something else? |
18:05.18 | vithos | anyone have/know of a script to automatically split gigantic combatlogs based on a threshold delta between timestamps? |
18:05.20 | NeoTron_ | like when you mark the group |
18:05.29 | nevcairiel | no, all icons where cleared |
18:05.36 | nevcairiel | oh |
18:05.41 | nevcairiel | yeah it applied skull to one other mob |
18:05.48 | NeoTron_ | selckin: need to document it better. it's really not that hard to set up. :-/ |
18:06.04 | NeoTron_ | do you run with FuBar_MagicMarker? |
18:06.13 | nevcairiel | no |
18:06.15 | NeoTron_ | if not that's a good way to 'debug' stuff |
18:06.28 | NeoTron_ | also turning on debug level messaging will tell you how it prioritizes stuff |
18:07.07 | Obelixprime | anyone know of a video encoder channel on this server? |
18:07.10 | NeoTron_ | wish there was a way to make it easier |
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18:07.45 | Obelixprime | or some place where i can ask some questiosn about digital video |
18:07.53 | Dashkal | Obelixprime: #mplayer ? |
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18:08.24 | Obelixprime | cool, thanks |
18:09.41 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: yeah it says "Sunblade Scout -> [tank]" |
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18:10.53 | Groktar | woot! |
18:10.54 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: hm i didnt have burn down in my crowd control list .. that might've caused it :P |
18:11.15 | Groktar | i got the parrot combat text to go behind grid |
18:11.24 | Groktar | that was certainly easy |
18:11.27 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: works now, my bad i guess :P |
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18:13.05 | NeoTron_ | nevcairiel: ok cool :) |
18:13.14 | NeoTron_ | that debug can be very useful |
18:13.25 | NeoTron_ | and btw FuBar_MagicMakrer is really nice if you run fubar |
18:13.40 | NeoTron_ | it will tell you 5/7 (5 mobs out of 7 have their final marks) etc |
18:13.58 | NeoTron_ | I think I will also add soem sort of audible or visible feedback when all mobs are marked correctly |
18:14.17 | NeoTron_ | or perhaps when you release the modifier, play a happy or sad sound depending on completness of marking |
18:15.38 | nevcairiel | you mean if it actually re-assigned a mark and i didnt remark that mob? |
18:16.21 | Groktar | woot, that also make my bigwigs bars cover up the combat taxt |
18:16.54 | profalbert | !rating 1556 |
18:16.54 | Xinhuan | 1556 rating gives 409(5s), 359(3s) and 310(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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18:18.12 | nevcairiel | NeoTron_: another thing, 5 mobs, 3 mages, but it assigns 3 tank targets and 2 sheeps, can i change that to always use max crowd? |
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18:19.15 | nevcairiel | (I have min tank targets to 1) |
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18:19.47 | Xinhuan | maybe only 2 of the 5 mobs are sheepable |
18:19.55 | NeoTron_ | I just love people that say mana regen is nothing locks care about bc we have life tap |
18:20.07 | NivFreak | it ups dps |
18:20.21 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: nah |
18:20.24 | NivFreak | I think the proper statement is, we care about giving locks mana regen the least ;) |
18:20.41 | NeoTron_ | nevcairiel: it will assign 3 hseeps if there are 3 mobs designated as CC with sheep as a valid method |
18:20.49 | nevcairiel | hrm |
18:20.53 | nevcairiel | maybe the DB is wrong then :) |
18:21.04 | NeoTron_ | NivFreak: well anyone worth anything knows that mana regen is useful for a lock and that lifetap is the DPS killer |
18:21.12 | NeoTron_ | nevcairiel: again, look at debug output |
18:21.35 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: yep, but at least you have a method to recover mana |
18:21.37 | selckin | NeoTron_: only spriest mana regen, any other makes almost no diffrence |
18:21.50 | NivFreak | mana tide |
18:21.50 | NivFreak | ;) |
18:21.59 | NivFreak | mana stream |
18:22.00 | NivFreak | etc |
18:22.04 | NeoTron_ | selckin: all does make a difference |
18:22.07 | NivFreak | spring even |
18:22.12 | NeoTron_ | but I'm talking about 30% regen from spirit in wotlk |
18:22.22 | selckin | ah sure |
18:22.26 | NeoTron_ | and ppl commenting that locks have no mana issues due to drain life and we don't want mana regen |
18:22.29 | selckin | probabl want you to share gear with mages then |
18:22.38 | nevcairiel | NeoTron_: sunblade vindicator for example, marked as "Tank" but valid for sheep. will it ever be sheeped? |
18:22.41 | NeoTron_ | what I don't like in that prospect is the potential lack of stamina |
18:22.47 | NeoTron_ | nevcairiel: no |
18:22.53 | NeoTron_ | nothing marked as tank will get sheeped |
18:22.59 | selckin | NeoTron_: spirit to stamina talent! |
18:23.01 | NeoTron_ | In reality I should probably redo that system |
18:23.27 | NeoTron_ | with the "min tank targets" you don't really need to separate what to CC and what to tank.. however it might cause issued if I change it around too |
18:23.43 | NeoTron_ | selckin: bummer we have a talent that decreases spirit and increases stamina |
18:23.58 | NeoTron_ | frankly so far I think locks wotlk stuff is completely fucked up |
18:24.09 | NeoTron_ | to the degree that I wonder if I will want to continue playing a lock if they let it go like it is now |
18:24.20 | selckin | just wait till NDA is lifted |
18:24.30 | selckin | and they done more then 2 classes |
18:24.47 | NeoTron_ | they have two more classes to do |
18:24.54 | NeoTron_ | others are not final ofc, but not undone |
18:25.16 | NeoTron_ | information previously "leaked" is available on mmo-champion etc now due to the thing in france "leaking" the information |
18:25.23 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: yes, they have really fucked up locks in wrath from a pve perspective so far |
18:25.29 | NivFreak | hoepfully they come to thier senses |
18:25.41 | NivFreak | also, fuck you blizzard for taking 7% hit from my shadow priest =( |
18:26.02 | NeoTron_ | what really makes no sense to me is: 51 pt demo talent => takes the pet away, 40 pt destro talent => improves imp in a tree that cannot possibly use the imp for anything useful |
18:26.20 | NivFreak | all pvp shit |
18:26.23 | NeoTron_ | NivFreak: our SP's don't spec for spell hit. better to spec elsewhere |
18:26.32 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: depends on gear level |
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18:26.40 | NivFreak | I don't have sunwell gear for my alt shadow priest it turns out |
18:26.45 | NeoTron_ | I'd love an imp that was useful in raiding with a destro nuke build |
18:26.47 | NivFreak | I don't even have t5 |
18:26.52 | NeoTron_ | because I'd like to be a pet class |
18:27.06 | Swtz | afternoon |
18:27.08 | NivFreak | the warrior talents are pretty sweet so far |
18:27.15 | NivFreak | I wonder how many will stay |
18:27.19 | NeoTron_ | but for that to happen the imp needs to be unaffected by damage effects (i.e essentially dps while pahse shifted, or at least have 100% aoe avoidance) and need to regain mana faster |
18:27.21 | CIA-44 | 03apoco * r78147 10RBM_Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: RBM_Sunwell: Kalecgos - Fix: MsgPortalGroup Issue |
18:27.22 | NivFreak | priest talents were interesting at least |
18:27.32 | NeoTron_ | priest is getting a lot of good stuff |
18:27.37 | NeoTron_ | as are druids of all specs |
18:27.50 | NivFreak | yea, AoE hot on druids |
18:27.51 | NivFreak | frontloaded |
18:27.53 | NivFreak | that's pretty hot |
18:28.07 | NivFreak | they basically get CoH |
18:28.16 | NeoTron_ | I dunno what they expect lock sto go for for PvE |
18:28.22 | Swtz | Folks, what's the best way to dry run a external homebrew bigwigs module? Without actually having to go to the boss to try it out? |
18:28.29 | NeoTron_ | affliction is woefully unusable for PvE on a general scale |
18:28.35 | NivFreak | I have to imagine locks will see radical changes before release |
18:28.40 | NivFreak | the alpha state is pretty horrid |
18:28.40 | NeoTron_ | because there's not enough debuff slots even if the DPS was comparable |
18:28.54 | NeoTron_ | destro is pretty much buffed for pvp but pve is just weird |
18:29.09 | NeoTron_ | I predict many more fire locks |
18:29.19 | NeoTron_ | ISB is nerfet to be irrelevant for the decision pretty much |
18:29.30 | NeoTron_ | since it no longer affects dots and is only 15% |
18:29.38 | Swtz | I like the way druids are shaping up |
18:30.01 | NeoTron_ | I like druids and priests a lot. I can't comment on most other classes due to inexperience except that locks are just bad |
18:32.12 | Swtz | I am really curious to see what we will get for Hunters/Pallys |
18:32.36 | selckin | paladins need to be redesigned from the ground up |
18:32.39 | Swtz | Specially for Prot/Holy Pally |
18:34.15 | Swtz | Now, seriously, anyone here has bigwigs knowledge? I would like some advices on how to test/debug a external module. |
18:40.53 | NeoTron_ | nevcairiel: the more I think about it, the more I think I need to eliminate the tank/cc category differentiation in the configuration |
18:44.55 | [3]Artmi | trying to locate some api documentation for all frame types, for CreateFrame, unable to find it though, anyone of you got a link for it handy? |
18:45.12 | Josh_Borke | [3]Artmi: your question does not make sense |
18:45.28 | Josh_Borke | do you mean what types are valid for the first parameter to CreateFrame? |
18:45.42 | [3]Artmi | yes |
18:46.01 | Josh_Borke | [3]Artmi: it's taken from the ui.xml schema |
18:46.06 | [3]Artmi | okey |
18:46.53 | Josh_Borke | [3]Artmi: you could also try any derivative of type frame |
18:47.21 | NeoTron_ | one thing that REALLY bugs me is how they add destruction spell hit to cataclysm, have affliction hit to aff talents... but that soul shatter is neither and you thus still need 202 spell hit |
18:47.35 | [3]Artmi | aye located something about that athttp://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API (Frame Derivatives) |
18:48.13 | durcyn | NeoTron_: you'd rather it was shadow/fire, and you still wouldn't have shatter hit in destruction? go go shadowmages. |
18:49.07 | NeoTron_ | durcyn: no. I'd rather they removed the spell hit requirement for soul shatte |
18:49.32 | NeoTron_ | or give it an inherit 5% reduction to miss chance or something |
18:49.47 | NeoTron_ | what point is there to have spell hit talents if you absolutely not can't rely on either ? |
18:52.05 | durcyn | oh, none at all, i was agreeing with you. |
18:53.42 | Funkeh` | I still have a sore neck from this morning for sleeping badly, grrr. haf my arm under my pillow and woke with a dead arm too |
18:53.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
18:54.00 | NeoTron_ | looking at priests and druids, the lock stuff just makes me sad |
18:54.21 | Stanzilla | massages Funkeh` |
18:54.37 | Funkeh` | <3 |
19:00.45 | Funkeh` | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=81923 good stuff |
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19:10.13 | Hjalte | ~seen toadkiller |
19:10.18 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-18-176-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 22d 19m 44s ago, saying: 'Or is it a mirage and they should actually be my two posts and not some noob's posts?'. |
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19:30.34 | Diao | wow someone broke a lib |
19:30.41 | Diao | everytime i open guild list it errors massively |
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19:41.24 | Wraithan | Diao: PEBKAC |
19:41.56 | Diao | if that were true it'd be easy to solve |
19:41.56 | Diao | :( |
19:42.10 | Groktar | restore mana = super mana pot? |
19:42.23 | Diao | any mana pot i think |
19:42.40 | Wraithan | ~seen Tornhoof |
19:42.43 | purl | tornhoof is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 6d 24m 51s, last said: 'heh'. |
19:43.06 | Wraithan | bleh, I have a patch mostly written for YATA and he is no where to be found |
19:43.07 | Groktar | i lost to a hunter in nagrand |
19:43.36 | Groktar | he was oom with 50% health |
19:43.37 | Groktar | and he drank a pot |
19:44.01 | Diao | yeah drinking a mana pot will cause the "restore mana" effect to occur |
19:46.23 | Kuosi | sometimes i just fucking love this game so much |
19:46.56 | Kuosi | trying to s4 mace on my alt war in 3v3, farming double healer hunter/rogue teams for 5-8 point that last atleast 15mins per game |
19:47.12 | Kuosi | then we get retri pala+warrior+resto shaman in lordaeron... |
19:47.30 | Tornhoof | wraithan, hmm? |
19:47.33 | Kuosi | -27points with 1min queue time (should not be possible to face that low rated team with that time) |
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19:48.31 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: hah, you are there this time heh |
19:48.39 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/images/huntard.jpg |
19:48.41 | Groktar | :/ |
19:49.08 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: have a mostly complete patch to add an option for right click on the macro to do totemic call, and left click stomp like normal |
19:49.31 | Wraithan | not with me here at work, but I have been working on it at home |
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19:50.19 | Tornhoof | you probably need to add it yourself, I'm off wow duty for awhile, too busy with work |
19:51.20 | Tornhoof | i don't even have wow installed on this computer |
19:51.41 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: I am adding it myself, I was going to provide a diff for ya if you wanted to add it to the main branch that is up on the websites |
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19:53.22 | NeoTron_ | :se noai |
19:53.22 | NeoTron_ | a:se ai |
19:53.25 | NeoTron_ | a2oops |
19:53.43 | Tornhoof | sure i'll add it, dunno when though, since i have to recover most of my svn stuff from seom broken hdd |
19:54.03 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: kk |
19:54.58 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: I am going to test it pretty thoroughly before I hand it off, that way you don't have to worry about it too much |
19:55.08 | Tornhoof | :) |
19:55.09 | Tornhoof | thanks |
19:55.29 | Wraithan | It works as is, I am just cleaning it up to match the coding style already in the addon |
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19:56.40 | Wraithan | biggest thing I was worried about is hitting the macro length limit but even with all the added stuff using the longest name totems, there is still like 90 char leeway |
19:58.55 | Tornhoof | just leave my bouncer a message with your diff and I'll integrate it into the main branch |
20:00.59 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: kk, should be within a day or two, I am moving soon |
20:01.20 | Wraithan | but it should be done before I pack everything |
20:01.32 | Tornhoof | :) |
20:01.55 | Wraithan | I love YATA, just needed this one feature lol |
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20:02.23 | Pkekyo| | nihilum are so full of themselves, their arses has got to hurt :p |
20:02.49 | Pkekyo| | "this is the one and only way you should ever play your class"-guides ftw |
20:04.39 | Wraithan | bah play to have fun, fuck what others say |
20:04.51 | Pkekyo| | no, gotta do it the nihilum way! :p |
20:05.26 | Dashkal | Wraithan: wait? Are you deluded into thinking this is entertainment? Wow is deadly serious |
20:05.42 | Wraithan | Dashkal: oops, my bad |
20:06.20 | Dashkal | I mean, people get /less purples/ if someone messes up. Do you hear me? Less purples! |
20:07.22 | Wraithan | take that out of context, how gay do you feel now? |
20:07.42 | Pkekyo| | :p |
20:07.51 | Wraithan | not meaning in a derogatory way, just saying that sounds homosexual hoping for 'purples' |
20:07.53 | Dashkal | not so much. If the best gear was rainbow like in, say, Chrono Cross, then yes |
20:08.53 | Dashkal | But then I find it hard to associate purple with homosexuality given I'm straight, male, and love purple :p |
20:09.16 | Pkekyo| | bash.org all the way |
20:09.19 | Wraithan | I was thinking of the color of certain organs. |
20:09.21 | Dashkal | cackles |
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20:11.24 | Pkekyo| | bah, can't be arsed, really |
20:11.35 | Pkekyo| | copy/pasting would make too much of an effort |
20:11.46 | Dashkal | lol |
20:13.30 | Funkeh` | um |
20:13.36 | Funkeh` | what's thi stargate continuum |
20:13.39 | Funkeh` | this* |
20:13.55 | Funkeh` | downloads |
20:15.42 | Pkekyo| | Funkeh`: GEIF NAO PLEES |
20:15.47 | Pkekyo| | it's the latest stargate movie |
20:15.49 | Groktar | i liked it |
20:15.57 | Groktar | except for the stupid ending, but w/e |
20:16.03 | Funkeh` | didn't event know they made a 2nd |
20:16.04 | Funkeh` | wtf |
20:16.04 | Pkekyo| | have had a hardon for it for ages |
20:16.04 | Pkekyo| | anyone got a stream? :p |
20:16.06 | Funkeh` | I fail |
20:16.11 | Pkekyo| | agreed Funkeh |
20:16.15 | Pkekyo| | go watch the 2nd one first |
20:16.22 | Funkeh` | huh? |
20:16.27 | Funkeh` | continuuum is the 3rd? |
20:16.30 | Groktar | it's got richard dean anderson for a lot of it |
20:16.31 | Groktar | 2nd |
20:16.37 | selckin | it sucks imo. |
20:16.38 | Groktar | well, second sg-1 movie |
20:16.45 | Pkekyo| | it's the third, yes |
20:16.46 | selckin | zomg timetravel lols |
20:16.46 | Funkeh` | yeah I saw the first |
20:16.48 | Funkeh` | the ori one |
20:16.58 | Pkekyo| | that's not the first stargate moie |
20:17.00 | Pkekyo| | movie* |
20:17.00 | Pkekyo| | :p |
20:17.06 | Funkeh` | sg1 you retard |
20:17.07 | durcyn | wait, the second one's out? |
20:17.09 | Funkeh` | stfu already |
20:17.16 | selckin | cancel atlantis allready tho :\ |
20:17.20 | durcyn | wait, the second one's out? |
20:17.20 | Pkekyo| | hot shit |
20:17.22 | durcyn | blah up arrow |
20:17.23 | Pkekyo| | watches Tron |
20:17.27 | Fisker- | sg-1 movie = win |
20:17.28 | Fisker- | also |
20:17.28 | Pkekyo| | selckin: wtf?! |
20:17.30 | Fisker- | fuck you |
20:17.33 | Funkeh` | durcyn, I just donwloaded it |
20:17.48 | Pkekyo| | how 'bout you go sodomize yourself with a corkscrew, Fisker-? |
20:17.49 | selckin | Pkekyo|: it sucks so hard :\ |
20:17.49 | Funkeh` | 1:34 |
20:17.53 | Funkeh` | 700 meg |
20:18.12 | Pkekyo| | selckin: wtf, suruslee?! |
20:18.15 | Pkekyo| | Funkeh`: source? |
20:18.24 | selckin | yeah last 2 seasons specially |
20:18.41 | Pkekyo| | huh? |
20:18.44 | selckin | how can you keep that on the air and cancel shows like firefly, its injustice |
20:18.49 | Pkekyo| | elaborate...they canceled Atlantis? |
20:18.53 | selckin | they need to ! |
20:19.05 | cladhaire | Evening guys. I'm doing a talk on World of Warcraft's UI/Lua community on Tuesday and I want to highlight some of the code that's been written for WoW that's of use to the Lua community at large. A good example is pastamancer's ut8 library. If you guys have any other suggestions, please shoot them my way. |
20:19.09 | Pkekyo| | nah |
20:19.09 | Pkekyo| | but they -really- need to bring back firefly |
20:19.23 | durcyn | fuck Fox. |
20:19.26 | Pkekyo| | cladhaire: go away, stargate tiems nao! :p |
20:19.40 | Fisker- | slaps Pkekyo| around a bit with a large trout |
20:19.52 | Funkeh` | Pkekyo|, https://isohunt.com/torrent_details/46704334/stargate?tab=summary |
20:19.58 | Fisker- | WAREZ |
20:20.00 | Fisker- | OMG BAN |
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20:22.33 | Pkekyo| | :P |
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20:23.25 | Funkeh` | cladhaire, Id say callbac handler |
20:23.32 | Funkeh` | and libstub |
20:23.32 | cladhaire | yeah, I've got that on the list. |
20:24.21 | cladhaire | any of the more trivial stuff like formatting text, or data structure implementations (heaps, etc) |
20:24.25 | cladhaire | that stuff is perfect |
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20:25.22 | Funkeh` | cladhaire, libhealcomm I think is rpetty popular |
20:25.32 | cladhaire | O.o? |
20:25.40 | cladhaire | how is that of use to the Lua community? |
20:25.47 | Funkeh` | grid lib, used in several addons on wowace though |
20:25.50 | durcyn | i think he means non-wow, Funkeh |
20:25.55 | cladhaire | I mean non-wow |
20:25.56 | Funkeh` | oh |
20:25.58 | cladhaire | this is for the Lua conference |
20:26.04 | Funkeh` | okay |
20:26.10 | cladhaire | I'm trying to show how we're written a ton of Lua code that can be used by the Lua community at large :P |
20:26.38 | NeoTron_ | cladhaire: heh can't say I see any inherit use in the code I've written in terms of the lua community at large |
20:26.52 | NeoTron_ | I'd say the biggest overall benefit is a significantly extended lua user base |
20:26.59 | Dashkal | cladhaire: I haven't used it myself (yet) but Prism (RSA Lib) looks interesting |
20:27.02 | Tekkub | conferences are so gay |
20:27.06 | charon | i somehow suspect something to do with shadow priest threat has been changed |
20:27.21 | NeoTron_ | I had some lua exposure pre-wow due to porting some games to Linux tht used Lua as a scripting engine |
20:27.25 | charon | omen constantly reported our spriest above _all_ tanks during bloodboil yet he never so much as blinked at him |
20:27.42 | selckin | 130%? |
20:28.27 | Pkekyo| | lmfao, Tron is bloody awful :P |
20:28.37 | charon | no but with all the knockbacks and stuns he should have got aggro at some point |
20:28.45 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: original tron? |
20:29.05 | Pkekyo| | aye |
20:30.07 | cladhaire | Dashkal: great thanks. |
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20:30.16 | cladhaire | NeoTron_: well, some authors have written plenty of useful things |
20:30.20 | cladhaire | ;-) |
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20:30.33 | ZealotOnAStick | so, in general, what are the benefits of a ticket tracker system to developers?? |
20:30.42 | NeoTron_ | not disagreeing |
20:30.51 | NeoTron_ | just stating that the unseen benefit is a larger developer base |
20:31.07 | cladhaire | well that's the title and first 25 minutes of the talk. |
20:31.12 | cladhaire | I can't use it for this part |
20:31.18 | NeoTron_ | fair enough |
20:31.40 | NeoTron_ | what about the route optimization in Routes? |
20:31.45 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: it makes baby ceilingcat cry :P |
20:31.46 | cladhaire | yep, thats perfect |
20:32.07 | cladhaire | Dashkal: where is Prism? |
20:32.11 | Dashkal | curse.com |
20:32.38 | Tekkub | cladhaire, I assume you're planning on touching on Compost too? :) |
20:32.41 | Dashkal | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/8018/ |
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20:32.58 | cladhaire | Tekkub: yes, although its difficult to convince someone of the worth of something that is worthless :P |
20:33.13 | Pkekyo| | also: what the flying fuck is a "laser bay"? |
20:33.15 | Tekkub | it's not worthless, depending on exactly how you're using the table |
20:33.31 | cladhaire | :P |
20:33.39 | Tekkub | but for the most part it's not needed anymore, aye |
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20:34.07 | Tekkub | what about the event dispatcher we use in like, everything? |
20:34.17 | Tekkub | I bet that could have good use outside of wow |
20:34.50 | NeoTron_ | yeah the event stuff is something I considered too |
20:34.54 | nevcairiel | CallbackHandler? I think clad had that already |
20:34.58 | cladhaire | i do |
20:35.02 | Tekkub | and memoizing tables, everone likes memo tables |
20:35.17 | Tekkub | otherwise... yea I can't think of anything |
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20:36.01 | Stanzilla | hm Tekkub, ever heard of SYC buying stuff twice? |
20:36.08 | Tekkub | Stanzilla, lag |
20:36.15 | Stanzilla | ah k |
20:36.23 | Tekkub | don't reopen the vendor before the items are in your bag |
20:36.32 | Dashkal | AceSerializer3 |
20:36.52 | Stanzilla | I don't normally |
20:37.05 | Tekkub | aye |
20:37.40 | durcyn | Tekkub: speaking of SYC, is it supposed to fail miserably at restocking from bank, or is that just me |
20:37.41 | Tekkub | it's a rare issue completely caused by impatient users, I'm not highly motivated to fix it |
20:38.15 | Tekkub | durcyn, "Future plans: restocking from bank." noone ever reads shit |
20:38.23 | durcyn | oh, buggrit. |
20:39.19 | kenlyric | Antiarc: have you spawned yet? |
20:39.27 | Antiarc | Oct 13th! |
20:39.32 | Antiarc | The missus is gettin' big though. |
20:39.50 | Fisker- | Tekkub |
20:39.53 | Fisker- | 1 billion gold |
20:39.53 | kenlyric | protip: epidural is goood. |
20:40.33 | Tekkub | Fisker-, you realize that I have no idea what you're babbling about, so I'm just ignoring you... |
20:40.52 | Fisker- | :( |
20:40.57 | Fisker- | then i hate you |
20:41.34 | Fisker- | http://i27.tinypic.com/i3ezr6.jpg |
20:41.35 | Fisker- | see |
20:41.40 | Fisker- | That's your fault |
20:41.49 | durcyn | Fisker-: Broker_Durability was written by Borox, you wanker. |
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20:42.09 | Tekkub | man some people are really stupid |
20:42.16 | NeoTron_ | Tekkub: Fisker- always just babbles and makes no sense at all, ever |
20:42.33 | Fisker- | i know durcyn |
20:42.43 | Fisker- | Does borox seem to visit this channel? |
20:43.07 | Fisker- | wins the game once again |
20:43.55 | durcyn | Wanker. |
20:45.29 | NeoTron_ | :se noai |
20:45.30 | NeoTron_ | a:se ai |
20:45.36 | NivFreak | so |
20:45.43 | NivFreak | one of my shadow priests just got perm banned |
20:45.53 | Stanzilla | nice |
20:45.55 | Stanzilla | what did he do? |
20:46.03 | NivFreak | for moving 20,000G from his alliance toon to his horde toon over a period of 3-4 months via the neutral auction house |
20:46.10 | Stanzilla | lawl |
20:46.18 | NivFreak | no warning, straight up perm ban |
20:46.23 | Pkekyo| | gz on making sense? |
20:46.48 | Pkekyo| | why the hell would they ban him for that? |
20:46.49 | Fisker- | wut? |
20:47.00 | Fisker- | i lag >:( |
20:47.00 | NivFreak | they told him he could destroy the economy by doing that |
20:47.02 | NivFreak | ... |
20:47.03 | NeoTron_ | gold trader I'm sure |
20:47.17 | NeoTron_ | NivFreak: that's not a reason, that's rtard! |
20:47.35 | NivFreak | I told him to fight it |
20:47.37 | NivFreak | he's trying |
20:47.45 | NeoTron_ | there's nothing wrong with doing that |
20:48.03 | durcyn | good luck getting blizzard to reconsider a permanent ban |
20:48.07 | NeoTron_ | they take like 25% of the gold from the transaction by doing it so if anything it helps get money out of the economy |
20:48.10 | Pkekyo| | it's like sending 20k gold from your main to your alt...except that it takes ALOT longer time |
20:48.20 | NivFreak | and the AH gets a 30% cut |
20:48.31 | NivFreak | technically, they try to prevent you from doing this |
20:48.34 | NivFreak | it requires two accounts |
20:48.41 | NivFreak | for two reasons |
20:48.44 | NeoTron_ | sure but multiboxing is ok |
20:48.48 | NivFreak | yea |
20:48.52 | NeoTron_ | it's primaily so you can't bid up your iown auctions |
20:48.56 | NivFreak | and both accounts are his, in his name/cc/address |
20:49.07 | NivFreak | it just sucks |
20:49.13 | NivFreak | spriests are fucking impossible to find on my server |
20:49.19 | NivFreak | at least any that can break 600dps... |
20:49.45 | Pkekyo| | pats NivFreak |
20:49.52 | Funkeh` | heh |
20:49.59 | NeoTron_ | rumor has it M'uru is a guild killer |
20:50.02 | Pkekyo| | why the hell would he play both factions on the same server anyways? |
20:50.04 | Funkeh` | you can have mine if you want |
20:50.07 | Funkeh` | for a slight price |
20:50.11 | NeoTron_ | Pkekyo|: why not? |
20:50.11 | Funkeh` | reitred it a while ago :P |
20:50.13 | NivFreak | Pkekyo|: he was a reroll from alliance |
20:50.22 | NivFreak | played alliance for 3 years, and then rerolled horde |
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20:50.42 | Pkekyo| | but why on the same bloody server?! there's more than one of them p |
20:50.43 | Pkekyo| | :p |
20:51.11 | NivFreak | why do a different server? |
20:51.50 | NeoTron_ | Pkekyo|: well one reason is so you can transfer gold from your alliance char to your horde char |
20:52.21 | NeoTron_ | I once had a friend help me with a quest |
20:52.40 | NeoTron_ | she on her NE feral druid, me on my tauren shaman (the escort quest in the BE area in terrokkar) |
20:53.26 | Pkekyo| | NeoTron: well you see how well that worked :p |
20:53.36 | Swtz | I was from a pve server and I used to do stuff like that all the time |
20:53.38 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: 'cause it'll cost you one account less :> |
20:53.41 | Swtz | help horde and get help from'em |
20:53.46 | NivFreak | I have 3 accounts |
20:53.47 | NivFreak | so meh |
20:53.57 | Diao | i don't see anything wrong with transferring gold from one faction to another |
20:53.58 | Diao | o_O |
20:54.08 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: why the hell? :p |
20:54.25 | NivFreak | why not? :P |
20:54.28 | selckin | horde/allience split made sense in the beginning but not anymore imo |
20:54.32 | selckin | should just remove it :\\ |
20:54.48 | Swtz | now on a PvP server... I remember receiving help on the chicken escort quest and getting killed just before geting it completed. |
20:54.55 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: because it costs fucking money? |
20:55.05 | Tekkub | http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/its_a_goddamned_cracker.php <--- now I have something to do on Sundays! |
20:55.12 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
20:55.27 | NivFreak | it doesn't cost much |
20:55.33 | NeoTron_ | Man moonkins will be fricking sick for wotlk |
20:55.54 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: I can't even afford to keep one account going...screw you :< |
20:55.54 | NivFreak | really? |
20:56.01 | NivFreak | Pkekyo|: get a job? :P |
20:56.05 | profalbert | NivFreak: what do 3 Accounts give, what 1 single account can't? |
20:56.24 | Diao | ability to powerlevel your own alts through dungeons |
20:56.25 | NivFreak | triple boxing |
20:56.27 | NivFreak | yes |
20:56.31 | DARKGuy | yeah |
20:56.34 | DARKGuy | 3 accounts ftw |
20:56.39 | Diao | ability to enchant your own alts |
20:56.40 | NivFreak | I have my warrior and priest on different accounts |
20:56.42 | selckin | and more dailys gold then you can dream off |
20:56.43 | NivFreak | so I can healbot myself when I want |
20:56.45 | Diao | multiboxing dailies |
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20:56.48 | NivFreak | and then I have my pally on another |
20:56.49 | Diao | there are many benefits |
20:56.51 | NivFreak | to plvl toons with |
20:56.58 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: I'm not getting any shifts :< |
20:57.11 | profalbert | ok, I see the point ;) |
20:57.19 | NeoTron_ | Imp FF: 3% hit for everything (huge raid benefit), Imp Boomkin => essentially 20% more spell haste to the group, nature's fury => likely 6% more nature/arcane dmg to the target |
20:57.43 | NivFreak | wow |
20:57.47 | NivFreak | crazy |
20:58.09 | NeoTron_ | imp boomkin might be more like 10% haste on average or so but still pretty huge |
20:59.07 | NeoTron_ | I'm sort of thinking it'd be nice to reroll as a class that actually has fun benefits like that |
20:59.25 | Pkekyo| | Tekkub: FUCKING WIN! |
20:59.34 | NeoTron_ | esp since I am predicting wotlk to have exactly 2 locks ni the raid like in the good old level 60 days |
20:59.41 | NeoTron_ | no reason to bring more than 2. |
21:00.07 | selckin | wonder if deathkight shortage will be anything like the shaman one |
21:00.48 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: that's almost true after the next patch ;) |
21:01.09 | NeoTron_ | NivFreak: next patch => only NEED 2 locks |
21:01.12 | selckin | maybe CoW will stack with warriors! |
21:01.13 | NeoTron_ | but we're still topping dps meters |
21:01.21 | NeoTron_ | come wotlk I'm not so sure we'll do that anymore |
21:01.23 | NivFreak | man |
21:01.28 | NivFreak | I picked up this new 40/0/21 mage |
21:01.31 | NivFreak | he's a freaking beast |
21:01.39 | NeoTron_ | selckin: shortage? I think we'll have a huge overflow of dk's |
21:01.59 | NeoTron_ | NivFreak: t5 level gear I presume? |
21:02.21 | NivFreak | eh, some |
21:02.22 | NivFreak | not full |
21:02.36 | NivFreak | his gear isn't that great |
21:02.43 | NivFreak | but he's destroying tons of our dps |
21:02.44 | NeoTron_ | it's possible I'll change from lock to hunter in wotlk |
21:02.46 | NivFreak | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Rellunda |
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21:02.59 | NeoTron_ | so he's good and tons of your dps is bad? :P |
21:03.27 | NivFreak | well, he broke 2K dps on RoS, which is given a rigged fight in general, and certainly for mages |
21:03.29 | NeoTron_ | doesn't even have 2xt5 for arcane blast fun |
21:03.37 | NivFreak | but he's knocking out 1500+dps |
21:03.39 | NivFreak | in that gear |
21:03.54 | selckin | steal his spriest and give it to locks |
21:03.58 | Diao | arcane is not great without 2pt5 though :o |
21:04.02 | Silviu- | ~seen haste |
21:04.06 | purl | haste is currently on #wowuidev. Has said a total of 61 messages. Is idling for 2d 4h 58m 13s, last said: ' ^'. |
21:04.06 | Diao | though it can still put out good dps |
21:04.18 | NivFreak | our locks do 1600-1800dps atm |
21:04.28 | NivFreak | depending on the fight |
21:04.32 | NivFreak | sometimes as low as 1400 |
21:04.46 | NeoTron_ | arcane with 2xt5, 4xt6 is pretty hot |
21:05.07 | NeoTron_ | although all our mages are fire atm for synergy |
21:05.23 | Diao | lol |
21:05.25 | Diao | we have no fire mages anymore |
21:05.27 | NivFreak | 2 of our mages are fire |
21:05.30 | NivFreak | this guy is new |
21:05.31 | Diao | since all 3 of our active mages got 2p t6 |
21:05.33 | Diao | er t5* |
21:05.37 | Diao | all 3 are now arcane |
21:05.38 | charon | Antiarc, Xinhuan, nevcairiel: does http://pastebin.ca/1067162 have any obvious downsides? otherwise i'll push |
21:05.39 | NivFreak | my mages suck |
21:05.40 | Diao | so our locks only put up CoS |
21:05.45 | Diao | and spam sbolt |
21:05.45 | NivFreak | but this guy is motivating the shit out of them |
21:05.58 | Diao | no scorch debuff for firelocks |
21:06.01 | Diao | lol |
21:06.25 | NivFreak | I don't understand why you'd want to be a fire lock |
21:06.36 | Xinhuan | whats the point of that charon |
21:06.37 | Diao | neither do i |
21:06.39 | durcyn | because it's better personal dps, and >1 ISB is redundant |
21:06.47 | Diao | but all of our locks are like "i wanna be fire and spam incinerate" |
21:06.52 | Diao | it's not much better |
21:06.57 | Diao | shadow and fire are pretty close |
21:06.57 | Antiarc | charon: seems fine to me. |
21:07.03 | Tekkub | man I should get a new keyboard |
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21:07.05 | Diao | and multiple ISB is better tbh |
21:07.06 | Stanzilla | waves at Antiarc |
21:07.07 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Force threat synchs after a taunt |
21:07.09 | Diao | if they hit at different times |
21:07.09 | charon | Xinhuan: if two tanks taunt nearly at the same time, the second taunt will almost surely get threat wrong because he has not updated the first tank's threat yet |
21:07.10 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
21:07.12 | durcyn | at equivalent gear, immo/incin edges out sb spam |
21:07.13 | Tekkub | this one is so full of hair and food crumbs |
21:07.13 | charon | so i'd like to force sync |
21:07.20 | durcyn | assuming COE + imp scorch |
21:07.24 | Diao | i dunno |
21:07.30 | Diao | we had a lock try out fire cause he really wanted to |
21:07.37 | Diao | and he got completely beasted by our top shadow lock |
21:07.47 | selckin | you need the right gear for it |
21:07.47 | NeoTron_ | I've realized that elemental shamans do sick damage |
21:07.57 | Xinhuan | if 2 tanks taunt at the same time, its likely both gets the same threat as the mob only gets one taunt debuff |
21:07.58 | selckin | and never forget to take grp setup in account |
21:08.02 | NeoTron_ | meaning they beat all other caster classes if you remove the synergy |
21:08.32 | Xinhuan | the downside i'm seeing is in the rollback case, where you republish |
21:08.33 | NeoTron_ | in ZA groups without SP I'm amazingly disadvantaged |
21:08.43 | Xinhuan | so ppl will see his threat jump up, then back down |
21:08.50 | NeoTron_ | Diao: fire is harder and you need the gear and fire mages to support it |
21:09.00 | Diao | we had 1 fire mage at the time |
21:09.02 | Diao | keeping imp scorch up |
21:09.08 | selckin | you need haste for it |
21:09.10 | Diao | and they had similar spelldamage levels |
21:09.14 | NeoTron_ | the lock needs to keep immolate up |
21:09.20 | Diao | but then |
21:09.22 | NeoTron_ | which is easy to "fail" with if you'ren ot used to it |
21:09.25 | Diao | most of our locks are terrible |
21:09.29 | Diao | except for that one shadow lock |
21:09.41 | charon | Xinhuan: hmm you have a point there, at the time i put in the force publish it's still in a transaction. need a better solution |
21:09.41 | Diao | he's the only lock that comes anywhere near our rogues on single target boss fights |
21:09.59 | Xinhuan | admittedly, a taunt resist chance is very low |
21:10.29 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78148 10Baldrick/Baldrick.toc: |
21:10.29 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
21:10.29 | CIA-44 | - 1.0 official release |
21:10.30 | NeoTron_ | Diao: but... lock is easy |
21:10.32 | NeoTron_ | shadow lock that is |
21:10.34 | Gnarfoz | charon: that'll just speed up the showing up of the updated values, all in all, right? instead of waiting for the next threat event to republish? |
21:10.38 | NeoTron_ | pressing one button repeatedly is not hard |
21:10.43 | Diao | yeah, but for some reason |
21:10.45 | NeoTron_ | but I know what you mean |
21:10.51 | Diao | i don't know why they're so bad |
21:10.53 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz, yes, unless it is rollbacked due to a taunt resist |
21:10.57 | NeoTron_ | we have had two locks that just failed at pressing one button often enough to compete |
21:10.59 | Diao | he's one of the worse geared locks too |
21:11.02 | Snago | Did WWI reveal what classcolor the DK will have? |
21:11.02 | Diao | which is funny |
21:11.10 | Diao | top dps with worst gear out of the locks |
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21:11.31 | NeoTron_ | like both locks were about the same as the top 3 locks.. if they used CoD (5-6 minute fights) and the top 3 locks did not |
21:11.41 | charon | Gnarfoz: yeah well that's what i intended to do, but as xinhuan has pointed out, it's a no-op because of the transaction |
21:11.48 | charon | need a better solution for taunt resists first |
21:11.53 | NeoTron_ | optimizng use of trinket and such helps. good life tap skills help a lot |
21:12.20 | Xinhuan | the thing about transactions is that it doesn't actually do anything until 60ms+ping later |
21:13.02 | charon | it was only a stopgap measure ... all we had was a transaction hammer for the resist nail |
21:13.21 | charon | i think it would be safe to assume the resist always follows the spell |
21:13.34 | charon | so technically it could decide on taunt or resist on the next event already |
21:13.45 | Xinhuan | charon, the forcepublish should prob be somewhere in the committransactino code or something, but that's icky anyhow |
21:14.14 | charon | for some things it's ok... some spells get resists much later on iirc |
21:14.19 | charon | but taunt resists directly follow |
21:14.56 | selckin | soulshatter even gets resisted before the cast event |
21:14.56 | Diao | oh yeah |
21:15.05 | Diao | one of our locks last night was saying he was getting 5k threat per sb cast with salv on |
21:15.08 | Diao | which i don't think is possible |
21:15.13 | Swtz | Guys, can someone please look into my code http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14153.msg228308#msg228308 and comment? I am having a really hard time to test the code without actually having to go to the boss and test it there. |
21:15.17 | Diao | but i think he's just stupid in general |
21:15.48 | NeoTron_ | Diao: depends on how hard he hit |
21:15.59 | Diao | 5k a cast? |
21:16.03 | Diao | i could see maybe 5k on a crit |
21:16.06 | Diao | but not on every cast |
21:16.07 | NeoTron_ | crits > 8k => more than 5k threat per cast |
21:16.19 | Xinhuan | yah, soulshatter fails in that case |
21:16.27 | Xinhuan | if the resist message is received before the SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS |
21:16.32 | Xinhuan | in omen that is |
21:16.49 | Diao | he doesn't crit over 8k |
21:16.51 | NeoTron_ | is that the source of soul shatter resists not being registerd? |
21:17.03 | NeoTron_ | Diao: then he doesn't generate more than 5k threat, ever :P |
21:17.06 | Diao | exactly |
21:17.08 | Diao | lol |
21:17.12 | NeoTron_ | not like it's hard to calculate |
21:17.18 | NeoTron_ | dmg * 0.9 * 0.7 |
21:17.51 | Diao | yep |
21:17.57 | Tekkub | is it an unspoken rule that you should pick your nose before getting a sepum piercing so it's nice and clean for the piercer? |
21:18.01 | NeoTron_ | if he didn't spec for reduced threat, remove the * 0.9 (might be /1.1/1.3 - not sure how it's calculated) |
21:18.04 | Tekkub | *septum |
21:18.12 | Diao | i think it's multiplied |
21:18.57 | NeoTron_ | last night we killed Brutallus with a dead weight in the raid (prot pally, in theer to get tier gear and perhaps the mace) |
21:19.07 | NeoTron_ | we made it, very barely, because we had a DPS die for part of the fight too |
21:19.12 | NeoTron_ | and we get tripple druid tokens |
21:19.16 | Diao | lol |
21:19.25 | NeoTron_ | the only belt piece we've had ppl get seconds of |
21:19.34 | NeoTron_ | three druids won their 2nd/3rd belts |
21:19.38 | NeoTron_ | retarded |
21:19.39 | Gnarfoz | if a hunter FD's, UNIT_HEALTH will fire to update his health to 0, right? |
21:20.03 | Gnarfoz | (because he's "dying") |
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21:20.14 | Xinhuan | NeoTron, the prot pally is capable of tanking brut |
21:20.46 | NeoTron_ | no he's not |
21:20.54 | Diao | not geared enough? |
21:20.56 | Xinhuan | my guild has killed brutallus with warr/warr, warr/druid, warr/pally, druid/pally tanking combinations ;p |
21:20.59 | NeoTron_ | not good enough |
21:21.06 | Diao | oh |
21:21.10 | NeoTron_ | he's a typical "we'd rather get another tank but we can't" player |
21:21.24 | NeoTron_ | we need him, but he's not good |
21:21.31 | NeoTron_ | he never MT's anything because he's bad at it |
21:21.49 | NeoTron_ | he's also one of the longest standing members in the raid |
21:21.53 | NeoTron_ | s/raid/guild/ |
21:22.06 | NivFreak | btw |
21:22.09 | NeoTron_ | for wotlk he plans to go deathknight and that is when we plan to phase him out |
21:22.13 | NivFreak | my prot pally failed at tanking phase 3 RoS |
21:22.14 | NivFreak | I had to do it |
21:22.29 | NivFreak | he couldn't put up enough threat |
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21:23.24 | NeoTron_ | as a guild, we JUST got a good prot warrior (and a good arms warrior) |
21:23.37 | NeoTron_ | and I can say this because I can compare to our previos ones |
21:23.48 | NeoTron_ | the arms warrior did 1550ish DPS on brutallus |
21:23.49 | NivFreak | there are so many bad warriors |
21:23.52 | Pkekyo| | dingalingdingdon |
21:23.52 | NeoTron_ | having to keep Thunderclap up |
21:23.53 | Pkekyo| | g |
21:24.04 | NeoTron_ | which is pretty painful as a deeps warrior |
21:24.14 | Kuosi | it is |
21:24.18 | NivFreak | why wasn't the prot warrior doing it? |
21:24.20 | Kuosi | atleast for arms war |
21:24.23 | Kuosi | keeping tc is lol |
21:24.25 | NeoTron_ | 2xdruid tank |
21:24.27 | NivFreak | ah |
21:24.33 | NivFreak | so you have one, but he's not tanking yet |
21:24.39 | NeoTron_ | prot warrior isn't geared yet |
21:24.41 | NivFreak | ah |
21:24.50 | NivFreak | I have my dps warrior keep imp ds up, and I do imp TC |
21:24.56 | NeoTron_ | when he oined he had no t6 token gear (he has 4 now). his shield is lol (gruul I believe) etc |
21:24.57 | Kuosi | the arms war would almost have to sit on bstance and drop ww off cycle |
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21:25.12 | NeoTron_ | Kuosi: the loss is about 200-300 dps I believe |
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21:25.20 | NeoTron_ | this arms warrior has done over 1800 DPS on brutallus |
21:25.25 | Kuosi | something like that yes |
21:25.38 | Kuosi | having to swap to battle from bers can seriously gimp your cycles |
21:25.47 | NeoTron_ | out previous arms warrior once did 1600ish dps but most typically around 1450 |
21:25.52 | Diao | eh |
21:25.55 | Diao | it's very easy to time your swaps |
21:26.02 | NivFreak | shit, I might spec TM if I had to dps and keep up TC ;) |
21:26.04 | Diao | you do it after you've burned all your rage and just before a weapon swing |
21:26.14 | NeoTron_ | it's still a loss |
21:26.28 | NivFreak | for sure |
21:26.33 | Diao | well |
21:26.39 | Diao | you do lose 17 rage for the debuff |
21:26.39 | NeoTron_ | but we got twins down without really solid warriors at all |
21:26.54 | NeoTron_ | all the way from karazhan |
21:27.02 | Xinhuan | our prot pally builds solid threat hehe |
21:27.04 | Diao | which i guess is 1 slam |
21:27.13 | Diao | but 1 slam worth of dps per 30 sec |
21:27.13 | NeoTron_ | and to make it more fun, we've had even worse warriors that then ones we had during t6 conten |
21:27.16 | Diao | is not a big issue :O |
21:27.25 | Xinhuan | misdirect brut to him on the pull and 3 secs later he has 12k threat up |
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21:28.09 | NeoTron_ | Xinhuan: curious, does he use seal switching? |
21:28.16 | NeoTron_ | well alliance or horde ? |
21:28.19 | Xinhuan | alliance |
21:28.24 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
21:28.35 | NeoTron_ | so in theory he can have the dot up while using SoR for most extra threat |
21:28.55 | Xinhuan | http://wowwebstats.com/kdioh441pthti?s=6420-33783 |
21:29.04 | Xinhuan | here's one of the brut kills, about 8 hours ago |
21:29.39 | NeoTron_ | nope clearly sticking to SoR |
21:29.51 | Xinhuan | he does take a bit more damage though, compared to the warrior, but he tanked the first pull, as well as the last bit |
21:30.31 | Xinhuan | oh also, my DPS is without spriest nor shaman ;p |
21:30.32 | NivFreak | I'd like to see a solid prot pally some day, I've never found one that could build good single target threat |
21:31.01 | selckin | because the class can't do it |
21:31.06 | Diao | sure it can |
21:31.10 | Xinhuan | the only boss we didn't let him tank in BT was illidan.. and only because he's one of our fire ele tanks |
21:31.15 | selckin | Diao: tell me how |
21:31.17 | Diao | our prot pally generates nearly as much threat as i do |
21:31.24 | Diao | and i'm fully hit capped/nearly expertise capped |
21:31.25 | Diao | as a warrior |
21:31.29 | NivFreak | I always hear about amazing single target threat out of paladin tanks, and I've never seen it |
21:31.46 | Diao | i get like |
21:31.47 | selckin | thats only in low content and a myth |
21:31.52 | Diao | 2% parry over an entire raid |
21:31.54 | Xinhuan | well i just linked a wws of my guild, that killed brut, with a pally tanking ^^ |
21:31.55 | Diao | 0 dodges 0 misses |
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21:32.32 | NeoTron_ | one brut attempt me and another lock was sitting around 2800 DPS for the first minute and a half |
21:32.44 | NeoTron_ | we didn't pull aggro ff the two druid tanks but it was close in the end |
21:33.15 | Xinhuan | ya druids are good tanks too |
21:33.25 | Xinhuan | i assure you pallies are capable tanks ^^ |
21:33.38 | Xinhuan | just as good on kalecgos, and even more so on bloodboil |
21:33.54 | Xinhuan | you know how when the felraged person dies, bb runs back to one of the tanks? |
21:34.14 | Xinhuan | our prot pally just tanks him for 15 secs in felrage without dying, everytime |
21:34.25 | Kuosi | hum how does pala keep up in threat @ bloodboil |
21:34.47 | Xinhuan | i don't know how he does it |
21:34.48 | Xinhuan | but he does |
21:34.54 | Kuosi | guess its possible |
21:35.11 | Kuosi | havent tried on pala myself |
21:35.16 | selckin | does he start off? |
21:35.25 | Xinhuan | yes he starts off |
21:35.29 | Kuosi | only boss my pala has tanked in bt is illidan :o |
21:35.37 | selckin | if you outgear it, you can tank it all the way anywya |
21:36.32 | Kuosi | pala tanks still have slightly less avoidance than warriors |
21:36.46 | Kuosi | take slightly more dmg |
21:36.58 | NivFreak | hrm? |
21:37.06 | NivFreak | maybe pure avoidance |
21:37.35 | Kuosi | well if you compare warrior items vs palatank ones |
21:37.42 | Kuosi | war ones clearly have more avoidance stats |
21:37.56 | Diao | depends on which items you're comparing |
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21:38.05 | NivFreak | yea, I don't gear for avoidance in general |
21:38.08 | Cheads | lootrank down? |
21:38.10 | Diao | my gear is all threat |
21:38.11 | NivFreak | I just keep a healthy amount of it |
21:38.13 | NivFreak | yea |
21:38.20 | NivFreak | I gear for threat and effective health |
21:38.24 | NivFreak | to a point |
21:38.31 | Diao | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Diaox |
21:38.34 | Diao | that's my current threat gear |
21:38.39 | Diao | still haven't gotten shield to drop off kaz'rogal :( |
21:38.43 | Diao | or i'd be using that instead |
21:38.44 | Kuosi | eh in general is the best when progressing |
21:39.16 | NivFreak | mine minus a trinket |
21:39.18 | NivFreak | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Nivwar |
21:39.28 | NivFreak | and I sometimes swap my ranged |
21:39.36 | Diao | i used pocketwatch |
21:39.38 | Diao | until i got my dst |
21:39.40 | Diao | for threat |
21:39.42 | NivFreak | lol |
21:39.45 | NivFreak | I wish I had a DST |
21:39.46 | Diao | but i swap in pocketwatch for avoidance |
21:39.54 | Diao | like i said, my guild is incredibly lucky with dst lol |
21:39.56 | NivFreak | I use an autoblocker for the other slot |
21:39.57 | Diao | out of 14 gruul kills we got 7 |
21:40.06 | NivFreak | we've seen zero in this guild |
21:40.09 | NivFreak | saw 2 in the last |
21:40.16 | Kuosi | my rogue still doesnt have one =( |
21:40.41 | Diao | it's pretty amazing to be hit capped and nearly expertise capped |
21:40.51 | Diao | and have a 1.3 attack speed with mongoose/dst up :P |
21:40.51 | NivFreak | yea, I can cap both |
21:40.55 | Diao | can you? |
21:41.09 | Diao | i thought the cap was like 63 expertise value |
21:41.14 | Diao | which was practically impossible to reach |
21:41.16 | sb | Xinhuan: 5:50 is way better than our kills :/ |
21:41.17 | Diao | even with orc/human racial |
21:41.20 | NivFreak | well, dodge cap |
21:41.23 | Diao | oh |
21:41.26 | Diao | yeah i was talking about parry cap |
21:41.28 | Diao | i'm way over dodge lol |
21:41.29 | NivFreak | you can't really cap parry |
21:41.32 | NivFreak | I can get to 12.12% |
21:41.37 | Diao | sitting at 44 expertise right now i think |
21:41.47 | Diao | if i could get into sunwell |
21:41.50 | Diao | for the t6 pieces that have expertise |
21:41.54 | Diao | i'd be a bit closer |
21:41.55 | NivFreak | but my basic goal is dodge cap/hit cap/EH |
21:41.58 | Diao | oh, never mind i have 50 expertise |
21:42.26 | Diao | and yeah |
21:42.45 | Diao | my guild is just starting bt |
21:42.51 | Diao | so i won't have access to some of the better pieces for a bit |
21:42.51 | Kuosi | sunwell gear is pampered with expertise |
21:42.54 | Kuosi | hit rating: 0 |
21:43.02 | Diao | yeah, but i'm already hit capped so i don't worry about it |
21:43.05 | NivFreak | I have everything you have equipped, minus the rings and DST |
21:43.08 | Diao | more expertise/EH |
21:43.20 | Diao | why'd you go with 12 dodge over 12 def? O_o |
21:43.23 | VonhintenHOME` | jesus CHRIST alliance sucks in PVP |
21:43.25 | Diao | isn't 12 def more effective avoidance |
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21:44.58 | NivFreak | it's .6% pure avoidance for 12 def |
21:45.02 | NivFreak | and .63% for dodge |
21:45.04 | Diao | yeah |
21:45.16 | Diao | but then you get the block chance on top of the avoidance with def? |
21:45.29 | NivFreak | so .62% vs .63% :P |
21:45.43 | Diao | er |
21:45.44 | Diao | what |
21:45.50 | Diao | isn't it .8 vs .63 |
21:45.55 | Diao | thought it was .2 of each block/parry/dodge/miss |
21:45.57 | NivFreak | er |
21:45.58 | NivFreak | my bad |
21:45.58 | NivFreak | yea |
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21:46.04 | NivFreak | tired ;P |
21:46.06 | Diao | haha |
21:46.09 | Diao | yeah |
21:46.15 | NivFreak | but anyway, I had this enchant before steelweave was out |
21:46.18 | Diao | ah ok |
21:46.23 | NivFreak | no reason to reenchant it |
21:46.27 | NivFreak | I'd prefer more pure avoidance |
21:46.30 | Diao | oh |
21:47.02 | NivFreak | plus, I just feel silly having 545 defense |
21:47.06 | Diao | haha |
21:47.25 | NivFreak | I wish the BV meta was stam instead of defense... |
21:47.30 | Diao | i'm kind of saddened that none of my gear can really be upgraded pre-sunwell except my helm |
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21:47.44 | Diao | and my shield which kaz'rogal won't drop >:( |
21:47.57 | NivFreak | I think our holy pallys have them |
21:47.58 | NivFreak | lol |
21:48.02 | Diao | like |
21:48.03 | NivFreak | and 4/8 t6 == hotness |
21:48.03 | Kuosi | yup |
21:48.06 | Diao | my guild has incredible luck |
21:48.10 | Diao | with trinkets and weapons |
21:48.12 | Diao | but zero luck with shields |
21:48.15 | Kuosi | my pala has that shield in bank too |
21:48.22 | Diao | we've never seen a shield drop in 25 man raids |
21:48.23 | Diao | ever. |
21:48.27 | NivFreak | and you need avoidance for sunwell |
21:48.31 | NivFreak | which you are lacking |
21:48.32 | Kuosi | every pala has illi shield aswell tho |
21:48.38 | Diao | oh my avoidance set is completely different |
21:48.40 | Diao | lol |
21:48.43 | Diao | i've got like |
21:48.52 | Diao | 60+% avoidance in my avoidance gear |
21:49.09 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: why can't bt4 (or bt3 for that matter) swap bars on double modifier conditions (i.e. swap on altshift)? |
21:49.11 | NivFreak | I wish I had t5 chest |
21:49.20 | Diao | like 28% dodge, 17% miss, 17% parry |
21:49.23 | Diao | or something ridiculous |
21:49.24 | NivFreak | I'd use it over the badge chest, and use my badge legs instead |
21:49.33 | NeoTron_ | err |
21:49.37 | NeoTron_ | 17% miss? |
21:49.38 | NivFreak | I have a passive uncrushable set w/ GoA and agi elixir ;) |
21:49.42 | NeoTron_ | you can't buff "miss chance" |
21:49.46 | NivFreak | yes you can |
21:49.47 | Diao | sure you can |
21:49.48 | NivFreak | with defense |
21:49.48 | NivFreak | :P |
21:49.52 | NeoTron_ | oh |
21:49.52 | Diao | high defense increases miss chance |
21:50.04 | Diao | every point of defense = .04% miss |
21:50.12 | NeoTron_ | fair enough |
21:50.15 | NivFreak | dodge is going to be the hotness in wrath |
21:50.16 | Diao | but yeah |
21:50.20 | Diao | my druids are jealous |
21:50.24 | NivFreak | we generate rage when dodging now! |
21:50.29 | Diao | because i have more avoidance from dodge/parry/miss than they do from dodge/miss |
21:50.37 | Diao | lol |
21:50.44 | profalbert | so... how can I break the link betwenn two fortress-plugins, once they are linked? |
21:51.08 | Diao | i still need the alar cloak |
21:51.13 | Diao | there's no better avoidance cloak in the game afaik |
21:51.20 | NivFreak | I have it |
21:51.42 | NivFreak | I really want the TK trash ring |
21:51.45 | Diao | lol |
21:51.45 | NivFreak | I have it on my pally tank |
21:51.55 | Diao | is that better than uh |
21:52.02 | Diao | hyjal reward/whatever other ring? |
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21:52.22 | NivFreak | for avoidance yea |
21:52.27 | Diao | oh |
21:52.27 | NivFreak | I want it for my passive uncrushable set ;) |
21:52.29 | Diao | err |
21:52.37 | Diao | because of the block chance? |
21:52.38 | Groktar | doesn't the tk ring just have a bunch of block value? |
21:52.40 | Kuosi | yes |
21:52.44 | Kuosi | it has block rating |
21:52.45 | Diao | i use tk + tidewalker ring atm |
21:52.52 | Kuosi | morogrim ring is gooood |
21:52.54 | Diao | need to kill kael before i can get the hyjal rep reward ring |
21:52.56 | Kuosi | for pure avoidance |
21:52.56 | NivFreak | block rating is the best way to become uncrushable |
21:52.58 | NivFreak | passivly |
21:53.01 | Kuosi | yes |
21:53.02 | Diao | yeah it is |
21:53.07 | Diao | tidewalker ring is awesome |
21:53.24 | Kuosi | but rep ring is still best all around you can get pre sunwell |
21:53.26 | NivFreak | I passed that to another warrior |
21:53.30 | Diao | heh |
21:53.31 | NivFreak | and he quit the next raid |
21:53.33 | NivFreak | never saw it again |
21:53.35 | Diao | we have 2 active warriors |
21:53.36 | Diao | i'm one |
21:53.40 | Diao | and i'm GM/RL/ML |
21:53.45 | Diao | so i show up to every raid |
21:53.47 | NivFreak | I'm GM/RL/MT :P |
21:53.53 | Diao | top dkp no matter what i take :D |
21:53.55 | NivFreak | and now the sole prot warrior |
21:53.57 | Diao | yeah |
21:54.07 | Diao | i'm MT most of the time |
21:54.11 | Diao | if i'm bored i let our pally MT |
21:54.14 | Diao | and i dps |
21:54.20 | Diao | and compete with rogues |
21:54.21 | NivFreak | I try to switch it up |
21:54.27 | NivFreak | but so far it only has worked well for azgalor |
21:54.31 | Diao | ah |
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21:54.43 | Kuosi | not much competition if equally geared rogues with brain :P |
21:54.49 | Diao | well |
21:54.57 | Diao | i'm one of the only people who's geared for both pve/pvp |
21:54.57 | Kuosi | fury is n/c and arms dont compete rly |
21:55.00 | Diao | so i was using s3 weapons |
21:55.06 | Diao | before they had badge weapons |
21:55.11 | NivFreak | I just like beating some of our DPS as prot in akama |
21:55.17 | Kuosi | do your rogues not have s4 weaps by now? :o |
21:55.18 | NivFreak | and then making fun of them for a week |
21:55.20 | Diao | no |
21:55.22 | Diao | none of our rogues pvp |
21:55.23 | Kuosi | pve gear rogue = profit |
21:55.25 | Kuosi | t.t |
21:55.26 | Diao | so they can't get s4 |
21:55.29 | Diao | i'm the closest to getting it |
21:55.30 | Diao | lol |
21:55.38 | Diao | so i'll have s4 while they're using s2/badge |
21:55.41 | Diao | one of our rogues has s3 |
21:55.45 | Diao | he got it right at the end of the season |
21:55.55 | Kuosi | i bought s4 oh on rogue because hasnt gotten savagery/oh glaiv :( |
21:56.02 | Diao | plus, i got s4 helm |
21:56.06 | Diao | which is the best warrior dps helm in the game |
21:56.10 | Diao | aside from crown of anasterian off KJ |
21:56.19 | NivFreak | I still have a S3 helm |
21:56.20 | Kuosi | hum |
21:56.21 | NivFreak | I'm bad |
21:56.22 | Kuosi | the mail one |
21:56.22 | NivFreak | ;) |
21:56.25 | Kuosi | from sunwell |
21:56.26 | Diao | lol |
21:56.27 | Kuosi | is pretty sick |
21:56.29 | Kuosi | for war aswell |
21:56.34 | Diao | true, but i think s4 beats it out |
21:56.40 | NivFreak | I actually haven't played a single arena game this season |
21:56.59 | Kuosi | i've gotten weapons on both my war and rogue |
21:57.18 | Diao | i assume you're talking about coif of alleria for helm |
21:57.25 | Diao | which has stats wasted on int |
21:57.35 | Kuosi | yes |
21:57.38 | Diao | and drops off kj too |
21:57.46 | NeoTron_ | Diao: didn't you hear - pvp gear is useless for pve! ... |
21:57.49 | Diao | lol |
21:58.06 | NeoTron_ | a pvpers argument "it's not like the pvp gear is useful for pve" |
21:58.15 | NivFreak | lol |
21:58.29 | Diao | 45 str, 18 hit, 41 crit, 84 armor ignore with meta/yellow and 4 crit bonus |
21:58.44 | NivFreak | tell druids that pvp gear sucks for pve |
21:58.46 | Diao | vs 43 agi, 34 crit, 126 ap, 182 ArP |
21:58.49 | Diao | and red/meta |
21:58.50 | Kuosi | yes its serious business that s4 sword for bf warrior is better than kj sword |
21:58.53 | Diao | with 4 agi :9 |
21:58.54 | Kuosi | well designed by blizz |
21:58.57 | Diao | yeah |
21:58.58 | Diao | that sword |
21:59.01 | Diao | ended up being a hunter type sword even |
21:59.03 | Kuosi | 3.4speed |
21:59.05 | Kuosi | :)))) |
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21:59.05 | Diao | 3.4 speed /sad |
21:59.12 | Kuosi | retri weapon |
21:59.19 | vithos | hunters don't want that |
21:59.20 | Diao | horde ret* |
21:59.25 | Diao | not even alliance |
21:59.36 | Kuosi | ye most likely not that good for seal of casino users |
21:59.38 | Diao | why wouldn't they want it |
22:00.04 | Diao | shivering felspine still better? |
22:00.06 | vithos | shivering felspine or shiv of exanguination x2 |
22:00.17 | Tem|laptop | ~fear of complexity |
22:00.18 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
22:00.20 | vithos | or one of the 1h's off KJ maybe. |
22:00.21 | Kuosi | but you said about points being invested in useless int |
22:01.03 | Diao | felspine is for surv hunters though isn't it |
22:01.03 | Kuosi | have you taken a look how warrior dps items from sunwell lack stats in general? :O |
22:01.03 | Diao | yeah true |
22:01.03 | Diao | i wish i were on a easier battlegroup though |
22:01.03 | Diao | getting 2k+ on bg9 sucks |
22:01.03 | Kuosi | take f.e retri t6 belt vs t6 war belt :P |
22:01.03 | vithos | it's not just for survival |
22:01.07 | Diao | wouldn't bm just stack ap/crit |
22:01.10 | Diao | over agi |
22:01.14 | vithos | no |
22:01.23 | Kuosi | war belt has no stamina at all and still worse dps stats in every aspect |
22:02.13 | vithos | agi 0.829 / ap 0.369 (0.739) / crit 0.695 / pen 0.137 (0.961) / haste 1.013 |
22:02.24 | Kuosi | bm hunters hit agi aswell |
22:02.30 | Diao | yeah wait wth |
22:02.35 | Diao | how did warrior item get itemized so badly |
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22:02.44 | Diao | for the same ilvl |
22:02.55 | Diao | sockets are worth the same aren't they |
22:03.04 | Kuosi | making up for the aweysome paladin t6 bonus? :D |
22:03.15 | Kuosi | best 4part bonus fo sho |
22:03.17 | Diao | lol |
22:03.19 | Diao | yeah well |
22:03.21 | Kuosi | 10% more hammer of lol dmg |
22:03.22 | Diao | look at ret pally pvp gloves |
22:03.26 | Kuosi | haha y |
22:03.31 | Diao | why don't warriors get a sick bonus like that |
22:03.34 | Diao | 5% extra damage |
22:03.36 | Diao | on 1 item |
22:03.37 | Diao | ffs |
22:04.10 | CIA-44 | 03antiarc * r78150 10HiveMind/ (data.lua gui.lua): HiveMind: Add data for all remaining classes. |
22:05.31 | Kuosi | my friend who raids sunwell as arms said he got 3 plate items that are best in slot for him |
22:05.36 | Kuosi | and those are the new t6 parts |
22:05.40 | Diao | yeah |
22:05.46 | Kuosi | so the itemisation for warriors is pretty gooood |
22:06.04 | NeoTron_ | the new t6 token items are about the best of slot for all classes |
22:06.07 | NeoTron_ | they are truly good items |
22:06.22 | Kuosi | yes |
22:06.49 | Diao | they could put some hit on it or something :( |
22:06.54 | Kuosi | then again thats not too suprising |
22:07.03 | Kuosi | as they have higher ilvl than any other parts for those slots |
22:07.10 | Kuosi | and sunwell doesnt have non tier drops for those slots |
22:07.23 | NeoTron_ | Kuosi: well in t6 level gear, t6 tokens were never best of slow |
22:07.27 | NeoTron_ | for locks at least ] |
22:07.33 | Kuosi | true |
22:07.41 | Kuosi | but well |
22:07.44 | NeoTron_ | only best to hav 4 of them due to the 4 pc bonus |
22:07.49 | Kuosi | there was alternatives for those slots on same ilvl |
22:07.53 | Kuosi | in sunwell there arent :P |
22:08.24 | NeoTron_ | that is true |
22:08.33 | NeoTron_ | but it doesn't change that the pieces aren't just better but amazingly better |
22:08.36 | NeoTron_ | like they have good stats |
22:08.52 | Kuosi | yup |
22:08.53 | NeoTron_ | regardless of ileevl there's lots of bad items pre-swp |
22:09.24 | Kuosi | for rogue all by far better than old best in slot items |
22:09.29 | Kuosi | bracers closest |
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22:09.50 | Kuosi | but then again there was no good boots/belt in bt/hyjal gear lvl |
22:09.55 | Kuosi | shadowmasters are just lol =( |
22:09.59 | Kuosi | same with shit hyjal belt |
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22:11.02 | NivFreak | I think feral druid t6 is best in slot ;) |
22:11.22 | Kuosi | barely beating s3 :D |
22:11.31 | NivFreak | regardless |
22:12.09 | Kuosi | still best joke |
22:12.19 | Kuosi | shadowmasters vs slayer's boots |
22:12.54 | Kuosi | +13ilvl |
22:13.06 | Kuosi | and t6 gives like atleast double aep |
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22:13.34 | Kuosi | well not quite double |
22:13.37 | Kuosi | but still |
22:14.59 | Funkeh` | woot |
22:15.08 | Funkeh` | continuum was good |
22:15.17 | selckin | i didn't like it |
22:15.34 | Funkeh` | awesome to see all the old people back |
22:15.40 | Funkeh` | even the system lords |
22:15.51 | Pkekyo| | lolwut, shamans gain +healing from strength?! |
22:16.27 | Tekkub | shit continuum's out? |
22:16.29 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: wut? new SG-1 movie or what |
22:16.30 | Tekkub | *downloads* |
22:16.39 | Funkeh` | yeah lol |
22:17.25 | Kuosi | hummmm |
22:17.38 | Tekkub | *slashdance* I have something to watch tonight |
22:17.39 | Kuosi | tb -> |
22:18.37 | selckin | <PROTECTED> |
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22:20.44 | Stanzilla | diablo 3 wallpaper here :P |
22:21.17 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/09/around-azeroth-moist-steak/ |
22:21.21 | Tekkub | that is fucking win |
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22:22.53 | Kuosi | :O |
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22:25.30 | NivFreak | meh, I'm tempted to cheese up bloodboil and use a disc priest |
22:25.37 | NivFreak | I'm tired of mages getting fel raged |
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22:26.04 | Gnarfoz | ugh I hate bloodboil with too many squishies |
22:26.08 | selckin | you still have trouble on that? |
22:26.33 | CIA-44 | 03Copystring * r78151 10YurrCombatLog/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
22:26.33 | CIA-44 | YurrCombatLog: |
22:26.33 | CIA-44 | - Added LibDataBroker-1.1 stuff, improved some code |
22:26.59 | NivFreak | still? |
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22:27.18 | NivFreak | We've killed him like twice |
22:27.19 | NivFreak | :P |
22:27.20 | selckin | dunno, thought you where in sunwell |
22:27.24 | NivFreak | nah |
22:27.34 | NivFreak | farming heart for mother *sigh* |
22:27.57 | selckin | make sure paladin healers in a bb grp |
22:28.02 | NivFreak | everytime I ask someone what they do about mages on bloodboil, they say replace them :) |
22:28.06 | NivFreak | or use a disc priest |
22:28.12 | selckin | big heals! |
22:28.14 | selckin | it works |
22:28.27 | Kuosi | make sure they use frost armor |
22:28.31 | Gnarfoz | how would a paladin in a BB group help? |
22:28.33 | NivFreak | even with 6 healers spamming the mages with max rank heals |
22:28.34 | NivFreak | they die |
22:28.38 | Kuosi | an they are still healable |
22:28.41 | NivFreak | and we have them use frost armor |
22:28.56 | selckin | Gnarfoz: mana for big heals :< |
22:29.03 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
22:29.12 | selckin | i always ended up in the tank group not getting bb, it blows :p |
22:29.16 | Gnarfoz | how does BB affect anyones ability to heal |
22:29.23 | selckin | Gnarfoz: dmg = heals = mana |
22:29.24 | NivFreak | paladins that get healed |
22:29.27 | NivFreak | get mana back |
22:29.33 | Gnarfoz | hm right, yeah. |
22:29.53 | Gnarfoz | I guess our's are anyway, never thought about that particular side of it, though ^^ |
22:29.56 | Kuosi | just hope rogues get fel enrage :o |
22:30.00 | NivFreak | yea |
22:30.04 | Gnarfoz | rogues are win for fel rage ^^ |
22:30.09 | selckin | they aren't spamming max rank tho if the mage dies |
22:30.12 | NeoTron_ | plus they wear plate armor and bloodboil is mitigated by armor |
22:30.19 | NivFreak | we tend to lose our priests too, which suprises me |
22:31.16 | selckin | i remember ppl getting armor pots or something or the other for it |
22:31.20 | NeoTron_ | shadow priest with BB => win |
22:31.21 | selckin | when learning |
22:31.32 | NeoTron_ | 2k healing from VE from MF :P |
22:31.54 | selckin | make sure debuffs are kept up during it |
22:32.03 | NivFreak | selckin: I gave our mages all ironshields |
22:32.05 | NivFreak | they used them |
22:32.06 | NivFreak | still die |
22:32.20 | selckin | expiration and /point at healers |
22:32.25 | NivFreak | the only part of the fight we've had problems with is mages/priests getting fel rage |
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22:33.40 | NivFreak | 10-17K dmg per hit |
22:33.42 | Kuosi | priest can heal himself for quite a lot |
22:33.45 | NivFreak | plus bloodboil |
22:33.46 | Kuosi | and use innerfire :o |
22:33.50 | NivFreak | Kuosi: they do |
22:33.59 | NivFreak | which is why I was suprised |
22:34.01 | NivFreak | usually they are ok |
22:34.27 | selckin | some healers are probably trying to save mana |
22:34.39 | NivFreak | likely |
22:34.46 | selckin | make sure to assign 1 keep tanks up |
22:35.01 | NivFreak | we assign one for bloodboils and one for tanks |
22:35.07 | selckin | with like 5-6 healers on fr nobody should die |
22:35.10 | NivFreak | although, it sucks if you end up with 20 stacks as a tank |
22:35.13 | NivFreak | and only one healer ;) |
22:35.37 | NeoTron_ | how many healers do you run with? |
22:37.19 | NivFreak | lately 8 |
22:37.22 | NivFreak | usually 7 |
22:37.43 | NivFreak | it's not that we can't kill bloodboil, it's just that it's not a one shot |
22:37.45 | NivFreak | which I dislike |
22:38.07 | NivFreak | and man, I have hyjal tonight with like 4 new people |
22:38.11 | NivFreak | archimonde is gonna suck... |
22:38.33 | selckin | in my experience, the recruits usually do fine on that one :p |
22:38.52 | NivFreak | it's a random |
22:38.58 | CIA-44 | 03profalbert * r78152 10ZOMGBuffs/modules.xml: |
22:38.58 | CIA-44 | ZOMGBuffs: |
22:38.58 | CIA-44 | - fix modules.xml to be wellformed xml |
22:38.59 | NivFreak | you never know if they will fail or not |
22:39.29 | selckin | once you get used to it, it doesn't mather in a few ppl die |
22:40.03 | NivFreak | 5 second silence is difficult to survive |
22:40.15 | NivFreak | it almost always chains |
22:40.46 | NivFreak | I think archimonde, teron, and bloodboil are the only bosses we really have many issues with on an ongoing basis |
22:40.46 | erikh | we |
22:40.52 | NivFreak | teron is new people failing at bars |
22:40.55 | erikh | we're on archimonde right now |
22:41.00 | NivFreak | archimonde is the random person who fails |
22:41.01 | selckin | if you have hots ticking it should be fine |
22:41.09 | selckin | teron is lol indeed |
22:41.14 | selckin | someone always fails |
22:41.23 | NivFreak | tank death is not generally the cause of failure on archimonde |
22:41.27 | erikh | yeah, i've been trying to get our GM to recruit more druids |
22:41.29 | NivFreak | for us |
22:41.43 | NivFreak | I have my ferals decurse and heal on him |
22:41.51 | erikh | hmm... |
22:41.53 | erikh | not a bad idea. |
22:41.59 | NivFreak | dps isn't really needed |
22:42.00 | erikh | we do normally have a feral or two in there. |
22:42.09 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78153 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: fix clicking not working with some blocks |
22:42.17 | erikh | I'm normally the only resto, and I'm not sure how carrion swarm is chosen but I normally have it non-stop |
22:42.39 | selckin | when learning our ferals respecced too |
22:42.48 | NivFreak | we don't have them respec |
22:42.48 | erikh | I'll suggest it to our gm. |
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22:43.02 | erikh | yeah, even some basic heal gear and lifebloom would be a big help |
22:43.06 | NivFreak | I just have them decurse as #1 priority |
22:43.15 | NivFreak | then keep hots up on me |
22:43.17 | erikh | it's not like they're going to be doing any real dmg |
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22:43.20 | NivFreak | yea |
22:43.24 | NivFreak | and it's not like you need the dmg |
22:43.30 | NivFreak | 6000DPS to kill archimonde before enrage |
22:43.31 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: quick question: is there some way I can make Parrot (not using the new branch, fyi) *not* show mana gains for my pet? (I guess _AFFILIATION_MINE is in there somewhere, which includes pet :\ I've got the talent that gives my pet 100% of my mana gains from Life Tap, and thus, every time I use LT, it shows double the amount because of merging) |
22:43.51 | selckin | its only gold, and it helps :) |
22:44.03 | NivFreak | so yea, looking at our last bloodboil mage failure |
22:44.15 | erikh | yeah, but generally we use the ferals to take adds in the waves and help w/ winterchill |
22:44.24 | NivFreak | he had bloodboil, 5K ticks from fel-acid breath and 10-17K melee hits |
22:44.29 | NivFreak | that sucked |
22:45.10 | selckin | i forgot how fel acid works |
22:45.19 | selckin | bad spreading? |
22:45.40 | NivFreak | I thought it hit the person who was fel raged |
22:45.49 | NivFreak | and splashes to others |
22:45.50 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: go to Code/CombatEvents.lua, line 2179 and remove the " or (dstGUID == self.PetGUID) " |
22:45.52 | selckin | its a debuff, taks get it sometimes |
22:45.57 | selckin | *tanks, all i know :) |
22:46.05 | selckin | so frontal thing probably |
22:46.14 | selckin | i never pay attention anymore in bt |
22:46.33 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: srsly, you know that code off the top off your head by now ;) |
22:47.02 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: thanks ;) any idea if that could be made user toggleable for cases like these? |
22:47.18 | NivFreak | Inflicts 2850 to 3150 Nature damage and an additional 2750 damage every 5 sec sec. to enemies in a cone in front of the caster. Lasts 20 sec. |
22:47.23 | NivFreak | so yea, you can't really avoid it |
22:47.36 | NivFreak | but it's ticking for 5K during fel rage |
22:47.44 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: it can. I'll implement it in the branch, and I think I'll remove it in the trunk-version |
22:47.57 | profalbert | I mean remove this or-pet-thingy |
22:48.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was looking for it, but couldn't find it ^^ |
22:48.49 | selckin | i don't remember seeing it on fel raged ppl alot |
22:48.58 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78154 10Broker_Tracking/ (. Broker_Tracking.lua Broker_Tracking.toc): |
22:48.58 | CIA-44 | Broker_Tracking: |
22:48.58 | CIA-44 | - tweaks |
22:48.58 | CIA-44 | - fix clicking (frame, button) |
22:49.17 | CIA-44 | 03profalbert * r78155 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua: |
22:49.17 | CIA-44 | Parrot: |
22:49.17 | CIA-44 | - no longer show Mana-gains for pets as Player-mana-gains |
22:49.39 | profalbert | drycoded :P |
22:53.33 | erikh | NivFreak: question; where do you guys send the infernals during anatheron? |
22:53.54 | erikh | per usual, my GM isn't interested in using advice from the people who have actually downed it and would prefer to invent something new.. |
22:54.05 | NeoTron_ | man I remember the days of wiping due to healer failure on bloodboil.. |
22:54.11 | NeoTron_ | now those days happen in SWP instead |
22:54.24 | NivFreak | erikh: we put them by jaina |
22:54.30 | NivFreak | over by the tower |
22:54.44 | NivFreak | your healers can actually LoS the carrion swarm if they tuck behind it ;) |
22:56.20 | NivFreak | I put a group of casters on the hill, one by the ballista |
22:56.45 | NivFreak | face the area where he comes from, and have a hunter misdirect him to a spot where both groups can switch between the infernal and the boss without moving |
22:57.15 | NivFreak | it's such an easy fight |
22:57.20 | Diao | tuck behind it? |
22:57.24 | Diao | explain this |
22:57.36 | NivFreak | you get on the other side of the tower from antheron |
22:57.42 | NivFreak | and heal the infernal tank from there |
22:57.47 | Diao | oh |
22:57.48 | Diao | yeah we do that |
22:57.53 | Diao | thought you meant the MT healers could dodge it |
22:57.59 | Diao | not the infernal tank |
22:58.06 | Diao | actually you can outrange the carrion swarm completely |
22:58.09 | Diao | since it's got a 50 yd range |
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22:58.21 | Diao | healers stand at max range to heal OT, OT is ~30 yds away from MT |
22:58.24 | Diao | swarm will never hit them |
22:59.40 | NivFreak | so looking at our failed attempts on bloodboil |
22:59.57 | NivFreak | we usually lose someone after they get teh arcing smash's 50% healing debuff |
23:00.04 | NivFreak | followed by fel-acid breath |
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23:22.51 | Hjalte | ckknight: I saw you added coords to the instances of Cartographer 3.0, is it the first step of some sort of instance navigation? |
23:23.12 | ckknight | Hjalte: no, it's for the portal entrances |
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23:25.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Funkeh`, [Ammo], vhaarr around, any of ye? |
23:26.10 | Funkeh` | sort of |
23:27.42 | ZealotOnAStick | can I beg really nicely for you to get a current package of BigWigs up on curse.com/curseforge within the next day or so? |
23:27.52 | Funkeh` | why |
23:27.53 | ZealotOnAStick | well, I am . . . any chance of success? |
23:28.23 | Funkeh` | there isn't really any thing differences in the current package |
23:28.26 | Funkeh` | whats the problem |
23:28.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Because, to be entirely honest, I don't want to deal with the massive numbers of e-mails and complaints I anticipate getting soon if there's not a "current" version up. |
23:28.48 | ZealotOnAStick | because the version on curse.com right now is months old. |
23:29.59 | ZealotOnAStick | and I like seeing versions that have m'uru and kil'jaeden modules working nicely and so forth for my preferred bossmod on curse, rather than seeing idiots say "Well it doesn't have this but DBM does" |
23:30.03 | Funkeh` | it's a 2.4.2 version |
23:30.05 | CIA-44 | 03nikkodemus * r78156 10BuffEnough/ (Locales/Locale-deDE.lua Locales.xml): |
23:30.05 | CIA-44 | BuffEnough: |
23:30.05 | CIA-44 | - added some deDE localization |
23:30.08 | Funkeh` | why would you get complaints |
23:31.01 | Funkeh` | um it has those mods |
23:31.11 | Funkeh` | ill update it later today |
23:31.15 | Funkeh` | I just dont see the urgency |
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23:31.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Anytime in the next day or so would be super. |
23:32.36 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm not sure I can share certain information yet that would explain why I care other than it's one of my job duties to try to keep valued addons updated and current. |
23:33.04 | ZealotOnAStick | and Thank you. |
23:33.14 | Funkeh` | uh.. okay |
23:35.52 | Funkeh` | I used to care to the point I converted my entire server to bigwigs, but I ran out of care a long time ago |
23:38.39 | Megalon | hands Funkeh` a carebear! |
23:39.17 | Megalon | hug it, when you're out of care! |
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23:40.02 | NivFreak | so screwing around in the wrath alpha |
23:40.11 | NivFreak | I noticed that shield block has a 30 second CD for warriors now.. |
23:40.14 | NivFreak | or maybe it was 60 |
23:40.19 | NivFreak | and talents only reduce that by 10 |
23:40.26 | NivFreak | did they pull out crushing blows I wonder? |
23:40.41 | Tekkub | yes |
23:40.59 | Tekkub | they did away with crushing blows starting with, uh, ZA wasn't it? |
23:41.02 | NivFreak | no |
23:41.15 | NivFreak | bosses in ZA still crush |
23:41.20 | NivFreak | lynx does not |
23:41.23 | Nechckn | wait... no more crushing??? |
23:41.26 | NivFreak | but neither does archimonde for that matter |
23:41.32 | NivFreak | Nechckn: that's what it seems like they are doing |
23:41.34 | NivFreak | or they fucked up |
23:41.41 | Nechckn | hmm... odd |
23:41.53 | NivFreak | no more defiance talnet |
23:41.56 | NivFreak | talent |
23:42.01 | Arrowmaster | there more than just archimonde that doesnt crush |
23:42.07 | Nechckn | unless they are going for something as of yet unrevealed. |
23:42.09 | NivFreak | this is what I think my lvl 80 spec will be |
23:42.12 | NivFreak | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LA0cZZVctMe0zcesguAo |
23:42.23 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: there's a few bosses, but there are plenty that still do |
23:42.29 | ZealotOnAStick | there are crushes in Sunwell. |
23:42.59 | NivFreak | and in the alpha, your toons can still get crushed by normal mobs |
23:43.06 | NivFreak | so, maybe it's just unfinished |
23:45.39 | Tekkub | Ah okey, I missread crap I guess... they want to do away with crushing blows, but they've never set an actual deadline for doing it |
23:45.54 | Tekkub | and it's just kinda expected that the major changes to it will come with Wrath |
23:46.10 | NivFreak | blizzard talks about a lot of things though |
23:46.14 | NivFreak | and not all of them materialize |
23:46.21 | Tekkub | well yea |
23:46.33 | NeoTron_ | kalecgos -> felmust don't crush |
23:46.35 | NeoTron_ | twins do |
23:46.49 | Groktar | twins crushing blows :( |
23:46.50 | NivFreak | but shield block is huge at that gear level anyway |
23:46.55 | Tekkub | but they're actually removing CB's bit by bit already, so that looks like something they are working on |
23:47.03 | NivFreak | I block somewhere around 1000 dmg off every attack that I block |
23:47.22 | NeoTron_ | instead they make the NORMAL hits so hard that your tank can die in 1.5s or less if the heals happen to be off by 100 ms |
23:47.34 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: that should be fun |
23:47.36 | NeoTron_ | who needs crushing blows when the mob hits for 16-18k dmg every 1.5s |
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23:48.12 | NivFreak | 2.0? |
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23:50.20 | NeoTron_ | ? |
23:50.33 | NivFreak | do they have hasted attack speeds? |
23:50.37 | NivFreak | most bosses are 2.0 afaik |
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23:50.57 | CIA-44 | 03ulic * r78157 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/Vorpil.lua: LittleWigs: Auch/Vorpil - Added banish back in, thanks reale |
23:51.03 | Groktar | anyway, speaking of twins crushing blows |
23:51.17 | Groktar | confounding blow for 10k, and then they get off 1 extra attack |
23:51.37 | Groktar | which crushes often because you're disoriented |
23:51.38 | Groktar | :( |
23:55.49 | NeoTron_ | Brutallus hits every 1.5s |
23:56.06 | NeoTron_ | he dualwields and it's often 10-11k/5-6k when stomp is up |
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23:56.19 | Hjalte | Kalman|: Using DotDotDot, sometimes when banishing, I lose the timer. I'm not 100% sure what could make me lose it. I think it's either because I mouse over a similar mob that isnt banished by me or isnt banished or maybe because I sometimes start casting banish and then tap to another mob to be ready to attack. Have any idea? |
23:56.36 | Kalman| | The latter. |
23:56.59 | Kalman| | If you don't have it targetted, focused, or mouseovered when the triggering message hits, it won't get picked up. |
23:57.16 | Hjalte | Oh. That is probably it. |
23:57.55 | Hjalte | How come? Doesn't it show in the combat log if it succeeded or not? |
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