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| 00:04.23 | NeoTron_ | does anyone have any screenshots of StatBlocks or some other LDB displayer? |
| 00:04.42 | Funkeh` | somewhere |
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| 00:09.08 | laeg | my minimap has too many addon icons around it and there's just not enough room for them all and it looks messy |
| 00:09.11 | laeg | does anybody have a solution? |
| 00:09.13 | Tenchworks | ~seen ckknight |
| 00:09.19 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 27m 17s ago, saying: 'selckin: all glory, laud, and honor to Coke?'. |
| 00:13.08 | Tenchworks | laeg: there are a few addons designed to fix that problem, don't quote me on the names but I think ?button bag? puts all compatible buttons into a single button. and theres another one called ?detached mini buttons? that allows you to maove them away from the minimap and put them where ever you want on the screen. I don't know how up to date those are but i'm one of them has to be up to date |
| 00:13.34 | Tenchworks | *sure |
| 00:14.24 | laeg | Tenchworks: ty ty |
| 00:16.10 | NeoTron_ | I use Minimap Button Bag. It sucks greatly, but for the most part works |
| 00:16.48 | laeg | how can anybody argue with a recommendation like that? :) |
| 00:17.27 | NeoTron_ | it sucks in how it's written |
| 00:17.33 | NeoTron_ | functionally it does work |
| 00:17.56 | NeoTron_ | except once in the past it got into a state taht made it spin sufficiently to make WoW go a 0.1 FPS or so |
| 00:18.11 | Dark_Elf | use minimapbuttonframe |
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| 00:19.15 | ag` | hi Funkeh` I'm back |
| 00:20.17 | ag` | Funkeh`, just use the fake toc file and put in the dir, then it will load FuBar2Broker before any FuBar addons |
| 00:20.29 | Tenchworks | laeg: yup np |
| 00:21.33 | Funkeh` | ag`, why can't you just change it to work on login? |
| 00:22.49 | ag` | how would I get a list of FuBar addons? |
| 00:23.13 | Funkeh` | no idea, can't you get that from the lib? |
| 00:23.36 | Funkeh` | if not, gather all the plugins in a table and execute on login or something |
| 00:25.05 | ag` | Funkeh`, it is a library thing, it needs to be loaded first or else some of the addons will use their own original FuBarPlugin lib code |
| 00:26.37 | p3lim | Im looking for an easy way to determine if one of the items equipped has 5 or less durability (what im trying to do is color a frame yellow or red accordingly) |
| 00:26.45 | Funkeh` | add LoadAddOn() to the top of the lib, no need for folder trickery :) |
| 00:27.49 | ag` | where do you want me to put LoadAddon? |
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| 00:28.16 | ag` | if I put it in FuBar2Broker that still won't make it get loaded earlier |
| 00:28.52 | p3lim | Anyone know an easy way? |
| 00:29.12 | p3lim | i tried PaperDollFrame:IsVisible() but it seems to be visible nevertheless |
| 00:32.03 | CIA-44 | 03Copystring * r78032 10YurrCombatLog/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 00:32.03 | CIA-44 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 00:32.03 | CIA-44 | - added Honor and Skill gains |
| 00:35.16 | ag` | Funkeh`, I can create the broker object at OnEmbedEnable instead of OnEmbedInitialize, but the problem here is that some of the fubar plugins gets to use some of the real FuBar plugin before my lib overwrites it |
| 00:35.43 | ag` | this makes some addons add the FuBar options to the dewdrop menu |
| 00:35.53 | ag` | and obviously they don't work |
| 00:35.53 | Funkeh` | it's a hack |
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| 00:36.11 | Funkeh` | and using onenable is better for us than oninit |
| 00:36.16 | Tekkub | it's gonna be a dirty hack no matter what |
| 00:36.25 | Funkeh` | oninit is just causing problms |
| 00:36.38 | Funkeh` | we can't just add every display addon to the damn optdeps |
| 00:36.41 | Tekkub | I want to see LDBFu so more people will want to use LDB instead :) |
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| 00:36.47 | ag` | oninit works fine if you load it before all fubar addons |
| 00:37.17 | Funkeh` | ag`, you're basically screwing every addon that starts with a letter after F |
| 00:37.41 | ag` | No, I create the dir FuBar, and put the toc inside it |
| 00:37.59 | Funkeh` | yeah, that's *real* user friendly dude |
| 00:38.04 | Funkeh` | that's sure to be a big hit |
| 00:38.09 | ag` | lol |
| 00:38.13 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 00:38.14 | ag` | that's how FuBar2 works atm |
| 00:38.23 | Funkeh` | and who uses that, 2 people? |
| 00:38.37 | ag` | I used to use FuBar2 :P |
| 00:38.40 | Tekkub | HAX! And uhm, if I still have Fu in my folder, it's 2 |
| 00:38.45 | ag` | but you're right, it is not as easy |
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| 00:39.52 | ag` | Problem is that if we're not *sure* that FuBar2Broker is executed completely instead of FuBarPlugin, crazy stuff could happen, I think |
| 00:40.28 | ag` | but sure |
| 00:40.34 | ag` | if I can make this error go away I can change it |
| 00:40.44 | ag` | then we can see how it goes |
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| 00:59.36 | ag` | Funkeh`, try it now |
| 00:59.40 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78033 10FuBar2Broker/ (FuBar.toc FuBar2Broker.lua README-INSTALLING.txt): FuBar2Broker: Might work now without fake FuBar dir, blame Funkeh if it explodes! |
| 00:59.42 | ag` | I think I did what you wanted |
| 01:01.22 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78034 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: FuBar2Broker: faked OnEmbedInitialize too |
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| 01:04.09 | NeoTron_ | !!FuBar2Broker ! |
| 01:04.23 | NeoTron_ | use the power of ascii based sorting! |
| 01:04.43 | selckin | cheating! |
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| 01:06.17 | Dark_Elf | if fubar loaded then reroute 2 broker, if fubar not loaded then broker anyways :p |
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| 01:09.20 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78035 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 01:09.20 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 01:09.20 | CIA-44 | - fixed enabling disabled plugins |
| 01:09.26 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78036 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: FuBar2Broker: MoneyFu works |
| 01:10.27 | Mytos | what are broker and fortress anyways |
| 01:12.06 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78037 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: FuBar2Broker: Don't try to create data object again OnEmbedEnable |
| 01:13.12 | NeoTron_ | ag`: got a screenshot of fortress? |
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| 01:14.52 | ag` | http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/986/wowscrnshot070708233805ke2.jpg |
| 01:14.59 | ag` | http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/1659/73744761ih2.jpg |
| 01:15.02 | ag` | http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8071/87776112jf8.jpg |
| 01:16.22 | NeoTron_ | so basically quite similar to fubar |
| 01:17.07 | ag` | yes |
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| 01:17.44 | Zyndrome | looks through the guildforums.. |
| 01:17.44 | ag` | But it can display any LDB addon |
| 01:17.46 | Zyndrome | "I like to DPS, I detest healing, thats why I would like to join as a Retribution paladin. Yes, my gear is not the best, but if you have patience until I get some upgrades, you will be proud of me" |
| 01:17.49 | Zyndrome | uh oooh... |
| 01:17.51 | Mytos | is it compatible with standard fubar mods or do we have to switch over to different modules? |
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| 01:18.17 | ag` | It should work with some FuBar addons if you install FuBar2Broker |
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| 01:19.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: ping |
| 01:19.30 | Antiarc | Yo |
| 01:20.05 | Mytos | whats the big difference between it and fubar though? |
| 01:21.48 | Dark_Elf | less space more feeling taste great |
| 01:21.53 | ag` | It's based on LDB, which means that plugins for it can be shown by any display addon such as Fortress or Statblocks2, instead of just FuBar |
| 01:24.55 | NeoTron_ | unfortunately it also means they can't be shown in FuBar until FuBar gets LDB support |
| 01:26.31 | ag` | it won't be that hard to write a LDB -> Fubar |
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| 01:26.38 | ag` | I'll do it after I get some sleep I think |
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| 01:31.24 | CIA-44 | 03next96 * r78038 10YurrCombatLog/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 01:31.24 | CIA-44 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 01:31.24 | CIA-44 | - Update locale koKR |
| 01:38.01 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78039 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibSpecialEvents-Skill-4.0/LibSpecialEvents-Skill-4.0.lua: |
| 01:38.01 | CIA-44 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 01:38.01 | CIA-44 | - Fixed some goofy string matching I had going on |
| 01:38.12 | Funkeh` | I think icons are buggy for fubar addons that change them |
| 01:38.17 | Funkeh` | mm |
| 01:39.15 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78040 10Baldrick/ (Baldrick.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
| 01:39.15 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
| 01:39.15 | CIA-44 | - Button and profile options are now settable via the chat window |
| 01:39.15 | CIA-44 | - Fixed Know Your Ley Lines |
| 01:40.10 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78041 10Coconuts/ (Coconuts.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
| 01:40.10 | CIA-44 | Coconuts: |
| 01:40.10 | CIA-44 | - Button and profile options are now settable via the chat window |
| 01:40.31 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78042 10MiniPet/ (MiniPet.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
| 01:40.31 | CIA-44 | MiniPet: |
| 01:40.31 | CIA-44 | - Button and profile options are now settable via the chat window |
| 01:40.31 | CIA-44 | - Added chat command to bring up the config UI |
| 01:41.11 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r78043 10Stable/ (Stable.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
| 01:41.11 | CIA-44 | Stable: |
| 01:41.11 | CIA-44 | - Added chat command to bring up the config UI |
| 01:41.50 | Funkeh` | what happened to alar |
| 01:41.52 | Funkeh` | I miss him |
| 01:42.18 | Lukian | Zyndrome, hahah nice app.. |
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| 01:43.06 | godzirra | howdy folks. |
| 01:43.43 | godzirra | I'm trying to switch my bars from bongos (which I liked) to something that is Ace. I'm currently using bartender3, but it doesn't highlight the button when my target has that buff/debuff active like bongos did. Is there any way to get that with bartender3? |
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| 01:45.41 | Lukian | godzirra, I don't think so, also, why not use BartTender4? |
| 01:45.44 | Lukian | -T |
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| 01:46.14 | godzirra | Lukian: Mostly because I didnt see it when I redid all my mods yesterday. ;) |
| 01:46.19 | Lukian | ^_^ |
| 01:46.20 | godzirra | Lukian: Does bartender4 support that? |
| 01:46.31 | Lukian | I don't believe so XD |
| 01:46.31 | godzirra | Because that was -really- nice as a pally tank... I always new when my seals wore off, etc. |
| 01:46.34 | godzirra | Well crap. |
| 01:46.37 | Dark_Elf | something that is ace? Bongos used ace |
| 01:46.47 | godzirra | Oh. Why's it not on files.wowace.com then? |
| 01:46.55 | godzirra | I also saw he stopped supporting it to work on Dominos |
| 01:47.01 | godzirra | which doesn't support that either. =p |
| 01:47.10 | Lukian | You could pester the BT author about adding it |
| 01:47.21 | godzirra | Do they frequent this channel? |
| 01:47.24 | Lukian | (or add it yourself and branch the changes0 |
| 01:47.41 | godzirra | I've tried modding, and I'm a pretty big noob when it comes to lua, sadly. |
| 01:48.05 | Lukian | If you have any general programming experience lua is cake |
| 01:48.15 | godzirra | I'm a perl guy... mostly its just having the time to put into learning lua. |
| 01:48.51 | Lukian | points at nevcairiel |
| 01:49.35 | godzirra | I'll send him a PM. So far I love bartender, but I'm going to have to change back if I can't get that... I can't pay attention to enough stuff when i'm tanking ;) |
| 01:49.59 | godzirra | also, is there a really good quest tracker? I was using uberquest... And it was nice because it had the quest list on the left, and the quest text on the right. |
| 01:50.04 | Lukian | I have a castsequence macro on my paladin which ensures seal uptimes |
| 01:50.06 | godzirra | and it also had a "minion" to track em. |
| 01:50.09 | godzirra | Oh? |
| 01:50.14 | Lukian | I use questsfu |
| 01:50.17 | Dark_Elf | questhelper |
| 01:50.22 | godzirra | k, i'll check both out. |
| 01:51.44 | Dark_Elf | never hurts to have both lol |
| 01:56.30 | godzirra | lol.. neither one is on files.wowace.com |
| 01:59.32 | Dark_Elf | no questhelper is on curse i know |
| 01:59.45 | godzirra | ah |
| 01:59.47 | Dark_Elf | its not an ace mod either |
| 02:00.07 | Dark_Elf | questfu should be on wowace though |
| 02:00.12 | godzirra | I'll just grab uberquest aagain then :) |
| 02:00.15 | Dark_Elf | fubarquestfu |
| 02:00.19 | godzirra | ahh thanks |
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| 02:00.48 | Dark_Elf | is uberquest the one that uses lightheaded? |
| 02:05.24 | godzirra | Hmmm |
| 02:05.25 | godzirra | I'm not sure. |
| 02:05.29 | godzirra | How do I tell? |
| 02:06.04 | Dark_Elf | well the one i thinking of has the wowhead logo in the corner |
| 02:06.21 | godzirra | nope |
| 02:06.23 | godzirra | thats not it then |
| 02:06.54 | Dark_Elf | except the one i got is uberquest reborn 2.4 |
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| 02:07.11 | godzirra | That may be the one I got. |
| 02:07.14 | godzirra | I don't remember to be honest. |
| 02:10.08 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78044 10StatBlockCore/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:10.08 | CIA-44 | StatBlockCore: |
| 02:10.08 | CIA-44 | - Icon support & placement options (on/off per plugins basis todo) |
| 02:10.08 | CIA-44 | - various bugfixing, all problems with plugins not loading should be gone |
| 02:10.11 | Dark_Elf | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/quest-helper/ a link to questhelper should ya want to add it to go with your uberquest |
| 02:10.14 | Funkeh` | boom |
| 02:11.20 | godzirra | lol... I just installed bartender4 and I can't find out where to configure it. |
| 02:11.46 | Funkeh` | try /bt4 |
| 02:12.13 | godzirra | ahh thanks. |
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| 02:15.48 | godzirra | Man.. I really wish atlas loot would stop enabling the minimap button everytime I login :p |
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| 02:32.18 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r5ae7882 10/: Add in some documentation on how to push data into LDB |
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| 02:54.57 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78045 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: Now only create icons for plugins that set the icon properly to clean up the code and support changing the texture when the plugin changes icon |
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| 03:12.07 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r78046 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/Vorpil.lua: LittleWigs: koKR Update |
| 03:14.06 | Atriace | Anyone on that's made a buff mod? |
| 03:16.22 | Tekkub | http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Bamboo_Bears_Forest_Adventure/70100463?&mqso=70002140&trkid=129129 |
| 03:16.24 | Tekkub | lol |
| 03:17.28 | selckin | sounds like a wii game |
| 03:20.20 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78047 10/trunk/ (7 files in 7 dirs): .trunk: broker plugins: properly set the icon when the object is created |
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| 03:33.51 | CIA-44 | 03tsigo * r78048 10RaidCooldowns_Display/ (5 files in 2 dirs): RaidCooldowns_Display: Add an Alpha option for the whole frame. Needs a locale update, please. |
| 03:38.39 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78049 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: add icon on/off |
| 03:40.38 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: Could this be added to yata, maybe as an option, http://pastie.org/229532 |
| 03:41.31 | Wraithan | makes it so left click is totems, right click is totemic call |
| 03:42.37 | Wraithan | tested it with all the longest name length totems, still well within the 255 char limit |
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| 03:42.57 | Groktar | ugh mu'ru 3% |
| 03:43.03 | Groktar | i really want to see entropius |
| 03:43.04 | Groktar | lol |
| 03:43.43 | CIA-44 | 03tsigo * r78050 10RaidCooldowns_Display/ (5 files in 2 dirs): RaidCooldowns_Display: Add a Width option. Needs a locale update, please. |
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| 03:53.12 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78051 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: Updated Blacklist |
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| 04:12.56 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r891224b 10/: Readme rejiggering |
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| 04:21.13 | breser | !points 1612 |
| 04:21.14 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 04:21.23 | breser | !rating 1612 |
| 04:21.24 | Xinhuan | 1612 rating gives 481(5s), 423(3s) and 365(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 04:24.30 | breser | Opinion question... Does anyone think that it's useful at all to do aggro coloring for enemy mobs (e.g. Bonzai module in PitBull). Right now it does and I'm think it's silly. |
| 04:24.57 | selckin | it is imo |
| 04:25.02 | selckin | just don't load the module |
| 04:25.07 | selckin | half 50% of em |
| 04:25.19 | selckin | *like |
| 04:25.38 | breser | I don't think you get what I mean. |
| 04:25.41 | breser | Let's say my focus frame is on an enemy mob. |
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| 04:25.56 | breser | Right now if a member of the raid targets that mob it will my focus frame as having aggro. |
| 04:26.06 | breser | I.E. the mob has "aggro" from our raid. |
| 04:26.23 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r0617fd1 10/: Always with the typos, I hate my fingers |
| 04:26.23 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r33c67b1 10/: Add list of who is using LDB |
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| 04:34.27 | CIA-44 | 03daviesh * r78052 10AtlasLoot/Images/ (Alliance.tga Horde.tga bronze.tga gold.tga silver.tga): |
| 04:34.27 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
| 04:34.27 | CIA-44 | - Updated art assets |
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| 04:49.08 | Groktar | like 10 straight 20% wipes in p1 |
| 04:49.56 | Kappaccino | oh raiding~ how I don't miss you |
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| 04:50.25 | aestil_ | SERVER FIRST! |
| 04:50.41 | aestil_ | [well, a crappy server first] |
| 04:58.24 | aestil_ | its exciting for us. |
| 04:58.29 | aestil_ | its our first server first. |
| 04:58.35 | aestil_ | which is also, n ot that impressive. |
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| 05:07.19 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78053 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: Properly support OnEnter/OnLeave and support OnTooltipShow |
| 05:08.50 | CIA-44 | 03antiarc * r78054 10HiveMind/HiveMind.toc: HiveMind: Add category to the TOC |
| 05:08.52 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78055 10StatBlock_DPS/StatBlock_DPS.lua: StatBlock_DPS: Use OnTooltipShow |
| 05:09.17 | aestil_ | Antiarc: twins down! |
| 05:09.21 | Antiarc | Ooh, nice. |
| 05:09.34 | Antiarc | We're still on Felmyst, because we rule at movement fights* |
| 05:09.35 | Antiarc | *don't rule |
| 05:09.37 | Antiarc | *suck, in fact |
| 05:09.40 | Antiarc | *like a hoover |
| 05:11.05 | aestil_ | haha. |
| 05:11.15 | aestil_ | kal should be awesome on felymst |
| 05:11.24 | aestil_ | cause he has to do something other than spam CoH |
| 05:11.26 | aestil_ | oh. |
| 05:11.28 | aestil_ | wait. |
| 05:11.36 | Antiarc | Kall's doing fine, really :P |
| 05:11.49 | aestil_ | good rogue calling the crop dusts? |
| 05:11.54 | Antiarc | <-- |
| 05:11.57 | aestil_ | good. |
| 05:12.05 | aestil_ | hey, btw, is pullout threat bar possible with omen2? |
| 05:12.07 | Antiarc | The dispels aren't a problem so much as the encapsulate movement and people not moving between dusts fast enough |
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| 05:12.17 | Antiarc | Uhh, not yet, I need to make it happen sometime |
| 05:12.29 | aestil_ | do you have a jira or something that i can make that ticket? |
| 05:12.40 | Antiarc | There's an Omen jira project, yeah |
| 05:14.42 | Groktar | WHY WON'T HE DIE |
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| 05:15.40 | Groktar | spits on mu'ru |
| 05:16.53 | Lukian | Groktar, because he's not meant to :D |
| 05:17.38 | Groktar | hehe |
| 05:17.57 | Groktar | it's like, we have all the adds under control and dps is on time |
| 05:18.03 | Groktar | and we still manage to screw up and die |
| 05:18.28 | Groktar | at about 20% |
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| 05:18.56 | aestil__ | we haven't even looked at mu'ru yet. is it like razorgore 2.0? |
| 05:23.20 | Groktar | kind of |
| 05:23.28 | Groktar | it's easier to keep up on dps |
| 05:23.43 | Groktar | but nobody can die |
| 05:23.45 | Groktar | and shit hits HARD |
| 05:25.37 | Groktar | like, the beserker tanks will sometimes die through 6k gheal spam |
| 05:25.38 | Groktar | :( |
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| 05:27.43 | aestil__ | nice. |
| 05:27.54 | aestil__ | we will proably have warrior bear and pally tanks |
| 05:29.16 | Groktar | that's fine |
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| 05:29.49 | Groktar | we were using a pally on small adds, warrior and druid for sides, and warrior for sentinel |
| 05:30.14 | Groktar | tonight we're using warriors on sides and pally on sentinel and small ones |
| 05:32.54 | aestil__ | right now we are hunter heavy, which looks like a good thing for that fight |
| 05:33.01 | aestil__ | MD's being very useful. |
| 05:33.20 | aestil__ | is it a pet friendly fight? seems like its ok if the pet doesn't have aggro. |
| 05:33.23 | Ellipsis | licks aestil__ |
| 05:35.05 | Groktar | mm, i don't think so |
| 05:35.09 | Groktar | the hunters are about last |
| 05:35.38 | Groktar | we have 3 |
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| 05:45.27 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78056 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: tweaks |
| 05:45.32 | aestil__ | hunters last? crazy talk. we have hunters doing 2400 dps on brutalis |
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| 05:46.09 | aestil__ | herro Ellipsis |
| 05:51.06 | Ellipsis | y helo thar |
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| 05:52.18 | Groktar | hehe |
| 05:52.37 | Groktar | aesthil: actually it's because they're dpsing a side |
| 05:52.53 | aestil__ | huh? |
| 05:53.11 | Groktar | our hunters are bad on dps because they're supposed to be watching a side |
| 05:53.26 | aestil__ | they can't watch and spam 1 button? |
| 05:53.39 | Groktar | maybe i should have said dpsing a side |
| 05:53.44 | Groktar | at least two of them are |
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| 05:54.18 | Groktar | i honestly don't know what's going on outside of my side |
| 05:54.19 | Groktar | :D |
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| 06:30.49 | cnc|work | g'morning peeps |
| 06:33.44 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r6146a32 10/: Make field lists into nice pretty tables |
| 06:37.14 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r073a874 10/: And rearrange the addon list a bit too |
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| 06:46.13 | CIA-44 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
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| 07:27.14 | NeoTron_ | going to try to do the aoe tank method on muru |
| 07:27.16 | NeoTron_ | two pally tanks |
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| 08:32.49 | cnc|work | any druid around that could rate my planned pre-heroic gear ? |
| 08:32.59 | cnc|work | (resto) |
| 08:34.00 | Aiiane | i wasnt aware pre-heroic gear was that big of a deal o.o |
| 08:35.09 | cnc|work | I'm rerolling and need to gear up asap heh :p |
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| 08:36.30 | cnc|work | also wondering if my gear choices are correct tbh |
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| 08:36.36 | cnc|work | good gems/enchants ? |
| 08:37.51 | syeren | You're a Druid. |
| 08:38.12 | syeren | Nothing needs to be right, any form of Balance isn't applied to your class in any form! |
| 08:38.42 | cnc|work | liez |
| 08:41.47 | Aiiane | cnc|work - have a profile link of some form? |
| 08:41.58 | cnc|work | ups, didn't link it, my bad http://www.chardev.org/?template=68948 |
| 08:43.03 | cnc|work | also wondering wether my gemming is right |
| 08:43.56 | Aiiane | gear-wise, looks fine |
| 08:44.02 | Aiiane | nothing stands out as odd |
| 08:44.09 | cnc|work | spec & gemwise ? |
| 08:44.26 | Aiiane | Gem-wise, I wouldn't bother with things like the 1mp5 socket bonus in the bracers |
| 08:44.32 | Aiiane | just stick +18 healing in it |
| 08:44.47 | cnc|work | need 2 blue gems for meta though |
| 08:44.50 | Aiiane | ditto the boots |
| 08:45.03 | Aiiane | well the one in the bracers is orange |
| 08:45.06 | Aiiane | so no blue there |
| 08:45.36 | Aiiane | the boots are okay, PSPs are just as good as RLR for the most part |
| 08:45.41 | Aiiane | so it's a free mp5, go for it |
| 08:46.05 | Aiiane | not sure if i would bother with golden spellthread on a blue, but that's up to you in terms of resources |
| 08:46.39 | Aiiane | at the pre-heroic level mana's still an issue, so insightful earthstorm is good |
| 08:46.54 | cnc|work | well, that damn thing is worth 40mp5 |
| 08:47.00 | cnc|work | 25-40 mp5 even |
| 08:47.05 | cnc|work | so its damn good in every situation imho :p |
| 08:47.10 | Aiiane | well |
| 08:47.27 | Aiiane | eventually its possible to get to a point as a resto druid where you're pretty much not able to spend mana fast enough |
| 08:47.37 | Aiiane | well, you could, but it'd be sub-optimal healing |
| 08:47.40 | nevcairiel | i have 2350 +heal, i shit on 26 heal extra :P |
| 08:47.43 | Aiiane | i.e. HTouch spamming |
| 08:47.59 | cnc|work | HT is meh :p |
| 08:48.08 | Aiiane | precisely :P |
| 08:48.13 | cnc|work | I'm currently lvl 61 (yea,lol I know) and I don't think I ever used it in instances |
| 08:48.14 | Aiiane | depends on what model you go for |
| 08:48.34 | nevcairiel | there will be some rare cases where you might be compelled to use HT |
| 08:48.37 | nevcairiel | but its rare |
| 08:48.42 | Aiiane | im assuming this is completely pve-centric? |
| 08:49.58 | Aiiane | dunno whether I'd go with 5/5 Tranquil Spirit or if I'd pop 2 points out of there and into Imp. Tranquility |
| 08:50.09 | Aiiane | zero-threat Tranq can save the day sometimes |
| 08:50.37 | nevcairiel | imp tranq is a waste |
| 08:50.38 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 08:50.48 | nevcairiel | i dont remember any case where i ever had to use it and pulled aggro with it |
| 08:50.54 | cnc|work | imp tranq ? |
| 08:50.55 | Aiiane | well for most situations, so is Tranquil Spirit |
| 08:51.01 | cnc|work | I never ever ever pulled aggro with tranq :( |
| 08:51.13 | Aiiane | up to you then |
| 08:51.24 | Aiiane | its not exactly the core of the talent tree ;) |
| 08:51.35 | cnc|work | tranquil spirit is also quite a waste though |
| 08:51.37 | cnc|work | might get rid of it |
| 08:51.41 | Aiiane | you've got all of the important stuff |
| 08:51.56 | cnc|work | could put some more points in balance for solo'ing with the points from tranquil spirit |
| 08:52.05 | Aiiane | natural perfection is nice but mostly a pvp talent... shouldn't be getting hit if possible in pve ;) |
| 08:52.11 | nevcairiel | 3% crit! |
| 08:52.14 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:52.21 | cnc|work | omg, critting HoTs ! |
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| 08:52.30 | nevcairiel | regrowth and swiftmend |
| 08:52.40 | cnc|work | well, crit is near worthless imho |
| 08:52.44 | Aiiane | its more the damage reduction, for pvp :P |
| 08:53.00 | nevcairiel | not like you really get any benefit from moving 5 points to balance |
| 08:53.16 | cnc|work | solo'ing dailies |
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| 08:53.25 | cnc|work | and shades in ssc I guess |
| 08:53.33 | cnc|work | not like those are any hard since the +dmg on healing gear though |
| 08:53.54 | Aiiane | plus druids have it easy on shades |
| 08:53.58 | Aiiane | weakness to arcane and nature |
| 08:54.06 | nevcairiel | holy too, iirc |
| 08:54.09 | Aiiane | yes |
| 08:54.14 | nevcairiel | so easy for all healers |
| 08:54.19 | nevcairiel | designed that way ;) |
| 08:54.41 | Aiiane | well... sort of annoying for priests since their holy spells are the long-cast-time ones, so more pushback than their shadow spells |
| 08:54.43 | Aiiane | but yes |
| 08:54.52 | Aiiane | not generally a problem |
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| 08:54.59 | Aiiane | more annoying for our prot warriors :P |
| 08:55.17 | nevcairiel | i always laughed when our hunters failed |
| 08:55.23 | Aiiane | because unfortunately they didnt make them weak to sunders :P |
| 08:55.25 | nevcairiel | tried to ice-trap them, and somehow failed |
| 08:55.28 | Kuosi | +dmg from healing spawned new evil called Restokin :( |
| 08:55.54 | Aiiane | on a side note, nerf pvp-resto druids :P |
| 08:56.18 | nevcairiel | remove pvp from the game, imho |
| 08:56.36 | Aiiane | nah, it'd get boring without the drama :P |
| 08:56.43 | cnc|work | agree with removing pvp from the game |
| 08:57.23 | Kuosi | pvp is pretty much what keeps me playing |
| 08:57.24 | nevcairiel | all that rebalancing of classes is so annoying |
| 08:57.34 | nevcairiel | stupid pvp and eSports |
| 08:57.42 | Kuosi | pve just too boring |
| 08:57.52 | Kuosi | causes brain dmg to see same ppl do same mistakes over and over again |
| 08:58.01 | cnc|work | don't play with idiots :D |
| 08:58.02 | nevcairiel | pvp is the same every fight |
| 08:58.05 | nevcairiel | thats not boring? :P |
| 08:58.13 | Kuosi | pvp is not scripted |
| 08:58.18 | cnc|work | close to |
| 08:58.26 | Kuosi | every fight can be different |
| 08:58.31 | cnc|work | the scripts are usualy more complicated then the pvp encounters tbh |
| 08:58.43 | cnc|work | a druid + rogue team remains a druid + rogue team |
| 08:58.50 | cnc|work | and will do the same thing against your team every damn fight |
| 08:59.03 | Kuosi | mayb shitty teams |
| 08:59.21 | Aiiane | if the same thing happens every time you face a team |
| 08:59.27 | Aiiane | one of you (the loser) is doing something wrong |
| 08:59.28 | Kuosi | adapting is something that comes into play at higher ratings |
| 08:59.37 | Aiiane | because doing the same thing is something they know will lose |
| 08:59.42 | Aiiane | and thus why would they do that again |
| 09:00.13 | [Ammo] | all 2.2k+ teams have a druid (suprise suprise) :) |
| 09:00.14 | Aiiane | one side always has an impetus to do something different |
| 09:00.34 | Aiiane | hence my earlier statement regarding druids and nerfing, and the requirement thereof, [Ammo] :P |
| 09:00.49 | Kuosi | [Ammo]: nah, druids are overpresented but it's not like thats required |
| 09:01.16 | [Ammo] | a quick check showed all 2.2k+ teams have a druid |
| 09:01.37 | Kuosi | first team on my battlegroup to hit 2.2k in 2v2 didnt have a druid f.e |
| 09:02.02 | Aiiane | http://www.arenajunkies.com/rankings/2v2/ |
| 09:02.06 | Aiiane | not all, but > 90% |
| 09:02.39 | Kuosi | thats not updated either |
| 09:03.06 | Aiiane | not since s4 started, correct. |
| 09:03.35 | Kuosi | but yes druids need some toning down |
| 09:03.39 | Kuosi | same goes with rogues |
| 09:03.52 | Kuosi | cheat death nerf aint gonna be enough |
| 09:04.00 | Aiiane | warriors just need some more variety than "lolspamstringms" |
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| 09:04.08 | cnc|work | rogue + druid <3 |
| 09:04.23 | Kuosi | rogue+restokin is lol setup |
| 09:04.37 | Kuosi | (I play one) |
| 09:05.08 | Kuosi | it has no real counters besides dual human double rogues |
| 09:05.21 | cnc|work | spec fine ? http://www.chardev.org/?template=68948 |
| 09:05.37 | _rane | Kuosi: rogue/ret with rocket boots is very nasty |
| 09:05.55 | Kuosi | if you have a human rogue there |
| 09:06.02 | Kuosi | then ret+rogue is pretty good aswell |
| 09:06.54 | Kuosi | decided to get weapons few days ago in 2v2 |
| 09:07.04 | Kuosi | took like hum |
| 09:07.12 | Kuosi | massive 65games! |
| 09:07.12 | cnc|work | I do hate battlegrounds though |
| 09:07.23 | _rane | i got mh more than week ago |
| 09:07.25 | syeren | (09:56:06) (cnc|work) the scripts are usualy more complicated then the pvp encounters tbh |
| 09:07.25 | cnc|work | so i prolly won't go arena untill my pve gear is good enough for some lowbie pvp :p |
| 09:07.28 | Aiiane | when in doubt, run away :P |
| 09:07.31 | syeren | Because 2v2 matters right? |
| 09:07.33 | syeren | :< |
| 09:07.39 | cnc|work | syeren: same for 3v3 & 5v5 :s |
| 09:07.47 | syeren | 5v5 is never ever the same fight. |
| 09:07.48 | syeren | EVER. |
| 09:07.51 | Kuosi | o rly? |
| 09:07.58 | Kuosi | 4dps caster teams vs warrior teams |
| 09:08.01 | syeren | I say that as rank 1 on Cyclone :> |
| 09:08.02 | Kuosi | cleaver vs euro etc |
| 09:08.05 | Aiiane | From a priest's perspective |
| 09:08.09 | Aiiane | 5v5 is always the same fight :P |
| 09:08.12 | syeren | Nope. |
| 09:08.19 | _rane | cnc|work: seeing you say that it's clear that you don't have any high-end pvp experience |
| 09:08.21 | Aiiane | (that was tongue in cheek, btw) |
| 09:09.00 | Aiiane | "Hai guiz, I wonder if they're going to focus fire me" |
| 09:09.12 | Kuosi | not if you have a warlock in team! |
| 09:09.20 | syeren | And if they focus fire a Priest they lose. |
| 09:09.31 | CIA-44 | 03borlox * r78066 10Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua): |
| 09:09.31 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 09:09.31 | CIA-44 | - added masterPlugin settings that count for all plugins, as long as they are not modified on their own |
| 09:09.31 | CIA-44 | - added hideOnMouseOut feature (find better name!!) |
| 09:09.31 | CIA-44 | - fixed a bug where OnEnter/OnLeave got overridden. |
| 09:09.32 | CIA-44 | - added addToDash feature (only shown if Dash is running) see: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391-Dash.html |
| 09:09.47 | Kuosi | syeren: well that depends what the other players in priest team are |
| 09:09.49 | Aiiane | again, depends on comp |
| 09:09.50 | Kuosi | + what u facing |
| 09:09.56 | Kuosi | cant say either way |
| 09:10.00 | Kuosi | + rng lol |
| 09:10.01 | syeren | Hi. |
| 09:10.05 | syeren | We leave your team's DPS free. |
| 09:10.07 | syeren | LOLOLOL |
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| 09:10.38 | syeren | If they feel like chasing around Hydra who's running around on our trap. |
| 09:10.45 | Kuosi | you do realise priest can drop in under 5s w/o protection? |
| 09:10.46 | syeren | Feel free, one of their DPS is going to die very quickly. |
| 09:10.50 | syeren | Yes. |
| 09:10.57 | syeren | Because as the top team on our Battlegroup. |
| 09:11.00 | syeren | And with the best Priest in the world. |
| 09:11.04 | Aiiane | not focus-firing someone's necessarily mean not controlling them |
| 09:11.05 | syeren | We let him run around without protection. |
| 09:11.14 | Aiiane | and not everyone is the top team :P |
| 09:11.25 | Aiiane | in fact, I daresay the majority aren't ;) |
| 09:11.52 | syeren | At the end of the day 5s and sometimes 3s is always different. |
| 09:11.57 | syeren | Yet when I do anyfight in Sunwell. |
| 09:12.00 | syeren | I stand still and chain heal. |
| 09:12.03 | syeren | Sometimes move to a bubble. |
| 09:12.04 | syeren | FUCK,. |
| 09:12.29 | syeren | And in Kusoi's example of Euro vs Cleave :p |
| 09:12.37 | syeren | Cleave was designed to make Eurocomp fuck off :P |
| 09:12.46 | Kuosi | yes I'm well aware of that |
| 09:13.12 | Kuosi | I played some sort of cleave comp at start of s4 |
| 09:13.24 | syeren | So that's almost the same every fight, however good Eurocomps can still give the majority of cleave comps a run for their money, because most cleave players are idiots :P |
| 09:13.28 | syeren | Due to the simplicity of the comp. |
| 09:13.29 | Kuosi | with war+hunter+rogue+shaman+pala |
| 09:13.35 | syeren | However the same can be said for most EuroComps. |
| 09:13.37 | Kuosi | the warlock just drops in 5s |
| 09:13.51 | syeren | We ran 2346 last season. |
| 09:13.56 | syeren | And our Warlock got sick of triple melee. |
| 09:13.57 | Kuosi | if warlock hides, some other cloth drops in 5s |
| 09:14.00 | syeren | And now plays our team's hunter. |
| 09:14.13 | syeren | And has quit his Warlock because of how 'balanced' melee scaling is in WoW. |
| 09:14.18 | Kuosi | um who u playing with |
| 09:14.30 | Aiiane | im not bothering with playing my warlock in arenas this season |
| 09:14.31 | Kuosi | doesnt hydra play with cherez in 5s? |
| 09:14.33 | syeren | I play Priest / Paladin / Warrior / Hunter / Shaman now. |
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| 09:14.48 | syeren | He started playing with Cherekee a couple of days ago :p |
| 09:14.51 | Kuosi | thats a good setup against cleave |
| 09:14.54 | syeren | After me and him had an argument :p |
| 09:15.20 | syeren | Ryan refused to play unless we played with his 2s partner Buakaew. |
| 09:15.30 | syeren | And madtoast is an amazing Warrior, so why change >_> |
| 09:15.41 | Aiiane | anywho, night |
| 09:15.42 | Kuosi | why dont u play with mystical :o |
| 09:15.49 | syeren | If you ever followed Arena, our warrior is from the EU GRAMMERPOLICE Team. |
| 09:15.57 | syeren | Because Mystical spends a lot of time in Dubai. |
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| 09:16.03 | syeren | And is fairly quiet on Vent. |
| 09:16.05 | theoddone33 | grammerpolice |
| 09:16.09 | Kuosi | yep now atleast |
| 09:16.12 | Kalroth | :D |
| 09:16.12 | theoddone33 | wasn't that the team that had the rogue that was really famous? |
| 09:16.20 | theoddone33 | grim? |
| 09:16.24 | syeren | They had a Mage who was really famous :p |
| 09:16.28 | syeren | And grim was in their guild :p |
| 09:16.31 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 09:16.33 | Kalroth | I heard they had a famous feral druid |
| 09:16.34 | syeren | And was on their team charter. |
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| 09:16.58 | cnc|work | "famous" meh |
| 09:17.00 | theoddone33 | I think grim is the guy that did a couple of videos that were well made but not showing any huge amounts of skill |
| 09:17.01 | cnc|work | famous chars are lame :p |
| 09:17.09 | syeren | Yes theoddone33 :p |
| 09:17.09 | cnc|work | more then enough nihilum fanboys on my realm |
| 09:17.09 | Kuosi | tho I havent played much against mystical |
| 09:17.19 | syeren | PRE-TBC well equipped Rogue videos = ................ |
| 09:17.23 | theoddone33 | they were fun videos though |
| 09:17.23 | Kuosi | but what runeh said he's pretty good |
| 09:17.25 | Kalroth | Sillyhum rocks! |
| 09:17.29 | syeren | Mystical is a good warrior who does a lot of damage :p |
| 09:17.42 | syeren | And of course Runeh says he's good, they're brothers :P |
| 09:17.46 | Kuosi | he plays pala on my guild |
| 09:17.49 | Kuosi | yes i know that :o |
| 09:18.55 | Kuosi | mystical got pala named reckless on vek still |
| 09:19.02 | Kuosi | and runeh got mage nyghtmare |
| 09:19.07 | syeren | Haha :p |
| 09:19.10 | syeren | I knew they played on there :p |
| 09:19.16 | syeren | I think Sonny had a character on there too? |
| 09:19.23 | syeren | With Cheers the Warlock :P |
| 09:19.29 | Kuosi | dont think he still does |
| 09:19.37 | syeren | Cheers is now back on Stormscale. |
| 09:19.45 | syeren | And Runehx has an amazingly equipped Druid from somewhere. |
| 09:19.53 | Kuosi | missa |
| 09:19.55 | Kuosi | ? |
| 09:20.01 | Kuosi | or does he have druid on sc |
| 09:20.01 | syeren | No idea of the name :p |
| 09:20.09 | syeren | He has one on SS. |
| 09:20.10 | Kuosi | he has some on vek aswell, not that great gear tho |
| 09:20.11 | Kuosi | ah |
| 09:20.12 | syeren | Has Memento and stuff. |
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| 09:20.28 | Kuosi | runeh is pretty aweysome player in general |
| 09:20.37 | Kuosi | can play pretty much any class |
| 09:21.05 | Kuosi | might be because plays all classes tho |
| 09:21.58 | cnc|work | omg |
| 09:22.02 | cnc|work | I hate retards calling me |
| 09:22.03 | cnc|work | seriously |
| 09:22.11 | cnc|work | fucking retarted idiots shouting on me |
| 09:23.01 | phyber | you rigged their email client so that they couldn't send that 2.5GB word document though, you bastard. |
| 09:23.17 | cnc|work | no, some idiot women asked for a card earlyer then her usual renewment |
| 09:23.22 | cnc|work | which means she gets a new card number |
| 09:23.30 | cnc|work | she got pissed cuz of that, idiot bitch |
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| 09:52.28 | CIA-44 | 03whyv * r78067 10RaidCooldowns_Display/locale/zhTW.lua: |
| 09:52.28 | CIA-44 | RaidCooldowns_Display: |
| 09:52.28 | CIA-44 | - update zhTW |
| 09:54.14 | CIA-44 | 03borlox * r78068 10Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua): |
| 09:54.14 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 09:54.14 | CIA-44 | ! DRYCODED ! |
| 09:54.14 | CIA-44 | - changed .tooltipText to .tooltiptext according to tekkub's spec |
| 09:54.14 | CIA-44 | - added showText setting |
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| 09:57.54 | CIA-44 | 03starlon * r78069 10CombatAlarm/ (CombatAlarm.lua CombatAlarm.toc): CombatAlarm: Slightly delay target guessing for SPELL_CAST_START events. |
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| 10:09.43 | Silviu- | ~seen Tekkub |
| 10:10.02 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1h 10m 9s ago, saying: '*sigh* on that note I'm going to bed'. |
| 10:11.13 | Orionshock | well all this action over LDB / SB and Fortress, reminds me that i'm still going to use FuBar. |
| 10:11.15 | Orionshock | eh well |
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| 10:20.03 | syeren | Orionshock, is there a thread regarding it anywhere? |
| 10:20.32 | Orionshock | ya "new Ace3 fubar plugin?" on the forums. |
| 10:20.41 | Orionshock | tbh the whole thing is a sham |
| 10:21.12 | Elkano | why? |
| 10:21.27 | Orionshock | don't think anyone "own" the lib, thus no one to simply say what is and what isn't |
| 10:22.52 | Elkano | well, the basic lib was written by me and modified by tekkub but there is a difference between the lib itself that is only a tool, and the specification for the theoretical design behind the idea |
| 10:25.14 | Orionshock | imo the lib and idea came from the repeated mantra around here. "Don't want to use fubar and associated libs for something simple" thus they created something that is half assed and not well thought out. it has no end solution. Closest thing it has is StatBlocks using it, and all that's really been done is recreate fubar with less coding and overhead. |
| 10:25.54 | Orionshock | and other than memory size no real benifit. |
| 10:26.37 | Elkano | no, actualy I had the idea for a long time |
| 10:28.14 | Orionshock | i look at it this way. "what is the real point behind LDB?" there is no stable answer that dosn't sound like people wanting to replace fubarplugin or some part of it. yet every time i bring it up i get shot at ... |
| 10:28.50 | nevcairiel | of course we want to replace fubar |
| 10:28.55 | nevcairiel | its old and broken |
| 10:29.02 | nevcairiel | who said we didnt? |
| 10:29.25 | Orionshock | nevcairiel: early pages of thread... i got shot ~3 times.. then again i wasn't too nice about saying so... |
| 10:29.52 | Elkano | but where FBP is written to work with FuBar only the idea behind LDB is that any display addon can grab the plugins |
| 10:31.10 | Orionshock | but there is no stable spec. just lots of opinions. granted those with the opinions are also making the display addons or are good friends, so that might be a moot argument there. |
| 10:32.06 | [Ammo] | use fubar, stop complaining |
| 10:32.12 | [Ammo] | shrug |
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| 10:32.42 | Orionshock | some asked.. i answered :\ |
| 10:32.43 | pb_ee1 | yeah why do you want to replace it? ;p |
| 10:33.19 | Orionshock | pb_ee1: in short they don;'t like Rock |
| 10:33.37 | pb_ee1 | HO NOES "Rock" does not contain the word "Ace" |
| 10:33.45 | Orionshock | no |
| 10:33.53 | Orionshock | these people are smarter than that... |
| 10:33.57 | pb_ee1 | ow. |
| 10:34.03 | Fisker- | [Ammo] |
| 10:34.07 | Fisker- | i will destroy you |
| 10:34.27 | Orionshock | 2c short answer, Rock is everything that they saw Ace2 become bloated with or / and more |
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| 10:36.58 | pb_ee1 | aha |
| 10:37.13 | pb_ee1 | can't say anything about that |
| 10:37.41 | [Ammo] | also the vendor lockin is bad |
| 10:37.46 | [Ammo] | ldb fixes that |
| 10:38.28 | [Ammo] | you can still display ldb plugins on fubar (not sure if someone has written a view for that), but it's not required |
| 10:38.43 | [Ammo] | that was my main gripe with statblocks as well, same vendor lockin |
| 10:38.44 | Fisker- | OMG WATS TIS NEW ACE 3 FUBAR ADDON? |
| 10:38.53 | JoshBorke | i want to throw in something wrt LDB and StatBlocks. Unless I missed it, StatBlocks does NOT use LDB |
| 10:39.06 | [Ammo] | JoshBorke: funkeh is working on that in branches |
| 10:39.17 | Orionshock | and now in trunk btw |
| 10:39.21 | [Ammo] | hence same vendor lockin |
| 10:39.25 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 10:39.30 | Fisker- | >;( |
| 10:39.32 | Fisker- | wat is it? |
| 10:39.35 | JoshBorke | wow, only took him 4 months ;-D |
| 10:39.41 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:39.52 | Fisker- | cries |
| 10:39.59 | pb_ee1 | what is LDB? (i'm lasy don't want to check on forums nor svn) |
| 10:40.02 | Orionshock | don't get me wrong, i love the entire idea behind LDB, but the lack of a consistant spec is my issue, that and when i did try it it didn't act the way i liked it... |
| 10:40.08 | [Ammo] | ~ldb |
| 10:40.09 | purl | hmm... ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 10:40.25 | Orionshock | maybe after they've refined it a bit i'll try again |
| 10:40.27 | pb_ee1 | Thanks, Ammo. |
| 10:40.35 | JoshBorke | god damn tekkub and his fucking per function versioning |
| 10:40.48 | Orionshock | lol @ JoshBorke |
| 10:40.56 | Orionshock | always found that a bit odd myself |
| 10:42.12 | CIA-44 | 03bolagio * r78071 10WhoFavorites/WhoFavorites.toc: WhoFavorites: Updated TOC version. |
| 10:43.46 | phyber | it must be so lovely for developers speaking to each other when they use git. "which commit fixed this bug, dave?" "why, commit 073a8744d642f70436a30472dbf168601cd1eb92 of course!" |
| 10:43.55 | phyber | ;_; |
| 10:44.27 | JoshBorke | phyber: indeed |
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| 10:46.51 | Orionshock | on lighter note |
| 10:47.02 | Orionshock | i need some advice about my own addon... |
| 10:47.11 | durcyn | delete it |
| 10:47.19 | Orionshock | :\ why it's a good addon |
| 10:47.32 | JoshBorke | not if it has your name associated with it ;-P |
| 10:47.52 | Orionshock | it's called GuildCraft, lets you keep track of what ppl can make in the guild |
| 10:48.13 | Orionshock | just really one last thing to do is figure out how to synch data for people offline |
| 10:48.23 | Fisker- | broker looks like shit? |
| 10:49.01 | Orionshock | current idea is to compile a list of known players with the addon then cross reference that with who's online then poll for it |
| 10:49.29 | ^kiki^ | Hi all! Any idea on how to (simply, without an external addon if possible) know, having an itemID, if I can equip this object? like I'm a clothy and the object is Mail? (I tried IsEquippableItem but it returns 1)... maybe parsing object tooltip, searching for a "red" line? |
| 10:49.48 | Fisker- | btw |
| 10:49.54 | Fisker- | can anyone learn2toc the broker stuff? |
| 10:50.05 | JoshBorke | Fisker-: no, fuck that |
| 10:50.15 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 10:51.23 | Fisker- | FUCK @ my repair bill |
| 10:51.24 | ^kiki^ | nobody ? oO |
| 10:51.58 | Fisker- | i expect Tekkub to pay my repair bills |
| 10:52.01 | Fisker- | http://i27.tinypic.com/i3ezr6.jpg |
| 10:52.06 | Fisker- | this is all his fault |
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| 10:53.14 | JoshBorke | lol fisker |
| 10:53.16 | JoshBorke | what mod is that? |
| 10:53.43 | Fisker- | broker shit |
| 10:53.56 | JoshBorke | someone make shitty mod |
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| 10:54.18 | Orionshock | ^kiki^: searching for a red line in the tooltip is prolly the best |
| 10:54.28 | cnc|work | not enough gamespace on that UI Fisker- |
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| 10:54.46 | ^kiki^ | ok, that's what I thuoght, thanks a lot... so no wow api then |
| 10:55.09 | Orionshock | ^kiki^: nope, if u want a quick hack at it, check out the code in LibGratuity |
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| 10:55.33 | cnc|work | well, bag addons can tell if items are equipable quite ez |
| 10:55.35 | cnc|work | so there should be a way |
| 10:55.37 | Orionshock | and if u look hard enough at tek's git repo you'll find a mini-gratuity lib that works well too |
| 10:55.56 | Fisker- | fortress doesn't even make sense |
| 10:55.57 | Fisker- | does nothing |
| 10:55.59 | Fisker- | NOTHINGS |
| 10:56.03 | ^kiki^ | k thx :p |
| 10:56.04 | cnc|work | what is it suposed to do ? |
| 10:56.17 | Fisker- | i don't know |
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| 10:57.46 | cnc|work | ~fortress |
| 10:57.49 | Fisker- | TEKKUB YOU OWE ME 1 BILLION GOLD |
| 10:57.53 | Fisker- | get over here |
| 10:58.25 | Orionshock | Fisker-: fortress is really a frunt end to LDB and legoblock |
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| 10:58.37 | Fisker- | doesn't do shit |
| 10:58.46 | Orionshock | not much too it really, the strong part of fortress is legoblock, it does all the hard stuff |
| 10:58.47 | durcyn | your ui makes me sad Fisker- |
| 10:58.59 | Fisker- | your mother makes me sad durcyn |
| 10:59.06 | cnc|work | what does legoblcok do ? |
| 10:59.11 | cnc|work | someone tell me what the damn addon is for :p |
| 10:59.30 | Orionshock | gives you a cute little frame and icon that can stick itself to others |
| 10:59.31 | durcyn | cnc|work: fortress is a legoblock-based display addon for broker data, iirc |
| 10:59.47 | Fisker- | what are legoblock-based displays? :o |
| 10:59.54 | profalbert | so legoblock is based on ldb? |
| 11:00.00 | durcyn | no, no |
| 11:00.02 | cnc|work | and what is broker data ? |
| 11:00.10 | Fisker- | so fortress is the shit that actually shows those blocks? |
| 11:00.13 | cnc|work | is that just a cheap fubar clone, basicly ? |
| 11:00.13 | durcyn | go read the 'ace3 fubar lib' thread on the wowace forums |
| 11:00.18 | Stanzilla | Fortress uses LDB data to create LegoBlock based blocks <<<<< |
| 11:00.21 | Fisker- | >:O |
| 11:00.25 | durcyn | yeah, what stan said. |
| 11:00.29 | Fisker- | go legoblock yourself |
| 11:00.34 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:00.38 | Stanzilla | I'll legoblock your mum |
| 11:00.39 | profalbert | oh so ldb is for the data, and legoblock for the visual stuff |
| 11:00.44 | durcyn | the idea is to decouple presentation from the data |
| 11:00.46 | Fisker- | want fubar clone |
| 11:00.47 | Fisker- | also |
| 11:00.56 | Fisker- | configuration of said addons |
| 11:00.57 | Fisker- | ;_; |
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| 11:01.07 | Fisker- | oooh durcyn |
| 11:01.14 | Fisker- | now you're thinking with layers!1 |
| 11:01.17 | Orionshock | Legoblock is a Lib that creates a moveable, sticking frame with icon and text lable; that is then manipulated by Fortress with LDB data :P |
| 11:01.23 | Orionshock | too much CRI IMO |
| 11:01.39 | durcyn | decouples Fisker- |
| 11:01.46 | cnc|work | basicly, fubar |
| 11:01.53 | profalbert | ~ldb |
| 11:01.54 | purl | i guess ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 11:01.55 | cnc|work | what was wrong with fubar, ftr ? |
| 11:01.59 | Orionshock | one could call it a UnBloated Fubar |
| 11:02.42 | Fisker- | or a featureless fubar |
| 11:02.43 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 11:02.44 | profalbert | cnc: if you write an addon with fubar-support, it does not work with statblocks, Fortress, etc |
| 11:02.49 | durcyn | eh, i wouldn't call fubar bloated per se, but rock is, well, rock |
| 11:02.53 | Fisker- | wins the game |
| 11:03.13 | cladhaire | legoblock was never intended to be a replacement for fubar |
| 11:03.18 | Fisker- | i am invindicle and what not |
| 11:03.20 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 11:03.23 | Fisker- | invincible* |
| 11:03.32 | Ellipsis | raeps Fisker- |
| 11:03.36 | profalbert | the point is to write an addon with ldb-support, and every ldb-viewer-addon can display that data |
| 11:03.38 | durcyn | and i'm not sure how legoblock even got invoked here, it's just what happened to be used in fortress |
| 11:03.47 | cladhaire | yeah, exactly |
| 11:04.07 | cladhaire | its what happens when you add whiny bitches to the conversation |
| 11:04.09 | cladhaire | its like pop rocks. |
| 11:04.12 | cladhaire | they fizz |
| 11:04.22 | Fisker- | i never fizz |
| 11:04.58 | durcyn | anyway, Fisker-, if you want a fubar style display, go write one imo |
| 11:05.23 | cnc|work | Fisker- write addons ? |
| 11:05.24 | cnc|work | blasphemy |
| 11:05.44 | Fisker- | indeed |
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| 11:05.49 | Fisker- | i don't do lua :( |
| 11:05.57 | Kuosi | fubarDK |
| 11:06.09 | durcyn | FiskerBar |
| 11:06.13 | durcyn | you could start your own line of addons |
| 11:06.15 | Kuosi | must have dk in it |
| 11:06.23 | Fisker- | DKBar |
| 11:06.29 | Fisker- | or |
| 11:06.30 | profalbert | DKPar |
| 11:06.39 | Fisker- | DanishDKBarofDanishDenmarkDK |
| 11:06.57 | Fisker- | needs moar DK |
| 11:07.23 | durcyn | fine, call it WhoNeedsDenmarkAnyway, the point is, it could be done already if you weren't danish, imo. |
| 11:07.30 | Kuosi | does HolgerDK still play Fisker- ! |
| 11:07.38 | Fisker- | yes |
| 11:07.41 | Kuosi | :o |
| 11:07.59 | Kuosi | good times |
| 11:08.15 | Kuosi | <- used to play on rc in sunday union |
| 11:09.12 | Fisker- | until you whined about lag and left! |
| 11:09.16 | Fisker- | tsk |
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| 11:10.13 | Kuosi | yes best move ever |
| 11:10.26 | Kuosi | found another great nation of ITALY |
| 11:10.32 | Kuosi | on hakkar, man that was a blast :( |
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| 11:10.47 | Kuosi | now rather happy in vek'nilash with swedes |
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| 11:16.18 | Concho | Just a small question did somebody already make a mod with AceGUI-3.0 it's a bit confusing and I rather find out myself how it works then ask questions here constantly |
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| 11:16.52 | JoshBorke | Concho: mobspells or something like that by antiarc |
| 11:16.54 | erikh | meh |
| 11:17.05 | Concho | thanks Josh will look for it |
| 11:17.06 | erikh | if anyone's awake and cares, WAU is chucking internal server errors |
| 11:17.32 | durcyn | people still use that piece of crap? |
| 11:17.42 | erikh | yep |
| 11:17.47 | durcyn | poor wankers. |
| 11:17.47 | erikh | laziness is a gift |
| 11:18.00 | erikh | and depending on the person, a skill |
| 11:20.05 | cnc|work | yea, look at Fisker- |
| 11:20.55 | sacarasc | durcyn: what would you suggest the lazy use? |
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| 11:21.32 | Orionshock | Concho: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/GuildCraft/GuildCraft_Browser/BrowserUIv2.lua bout half way down is the Ace3-GUI stuff |
| 11:21.37 | durcyn | versions from release sites instead of automated snapshots from a source tree |
| 11:25.27 | Orionshock | durcyn: do u really want to drag that skeleton out of the closet? |
| 11:25.32 | Orionshock | ^.- |
| 11:25.50 | durcyn | it shouldn't be in the closet in the first place |
| 11:25.52 | Concho | ohh thanks will dig myself deep inside these addons |
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| 11:43.50 | Cheads | ahh nice with sticky option for classtimer =) |
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| 11:46.07 | Kuosi | uu |
| 11:46.50 | Kuosi | time to update then |
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| 12:25.58 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78073 10Broker_SysMon/Broker_SysMon.lua: Broker_SysMon: Each stat (fps, mem etc) is now their own LDB object |
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| 12:36.33 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78074 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 12:36.33 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 12:36.33 | CIA-44 | - show label if show label is on, but show text off |
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| 12:38.04 | CIA-44 | 03Copystring * r78075 10YurrCombatLog/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 12:38.04 | CIA-44 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 12:38.05 | CIA-44 | - added option to watch specific units regardless of any other filter |
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| 12:40.31 | CIA-44 | 03thrillseeker * r78076 10Wishlist/ (Wishlist-deDE.lua Wishlist.toc): Wishlist: deDE Translation |
| 12:46.16 | Matrix110 | Fortress looks really nice especially the Fubar2Borker plugin, would make me able to drop all the rock stuff but sadly iam so attached to Parrot:-( |
| 12:46.47 | cnc|work | rock is not bad in itself tbh |
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| 12:47.29 | Matrix110 | Not saying that |
| 12:47.38 | Matrix110 | but having run different frameworks is bad :P |
| 12:47.46 | Matrix110 | (that essentialle do stuff twice) |
| 12:48.03 | cnc|work | Ace2 + Ace3 ? :) |
| 12:48.09 | Matrix110 | thats bad aswell :P |
| 12:48.43 | Matrix110 | But having so many AddOns I guess it will take a long time before I can drop Ace2 :P |
| 12:48.43 | cnc|work | no framework ftw :p |
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| 12:48.51 | cnc|work | mainly, the Ace3 license sucks dicks |
| 12:49.08 | Matrix110 | Well Ace2 and Ace3 make sense for me atleast with 10+ mods for each framework |
| 12:49.10 | Gnarfoz | mainly, you all have serious issues ^^ |
| 12:49.13 | Funkeh` | so does your mum but you don't hear me bitching about it in irc |
| 12:49.20 | Zergreth | mhh |
| 12:49.30 | Zergreth | does anybody know if washuu is using this irc channel? |
| 12:49.59 | Zergreth | he/she/it is kinda managing flagrsp2 and fixing bugs, wanted to have a talk |
| 12:49.59 | Zergreth | :f |
| 12:51.28 | cnc|work | Gnarfoz: no u |
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| 12:52.21 | Gnarfoz | I'm neither complaining nor doing nothing about the supposed problems, so no |
| 12:52.32 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78077 10Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua): |
| 12:52.32 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 12:52.32 | CIA-44 | - Fixed error when changing master color. Borlox, how do I take a plugin out of master mode? :P |
| 12:53.28 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78078 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 12:53.29 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 12:53.29 | CIA-44 | - removed debug message |
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| 12:59.23 | CIA-44 | 03Copystring * r78079 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 12:59.23 | CIA-44 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 12:59.23 | CIA-44 | - removed old code |
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| 13:00.24 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78080 10StatBlock_XP/StatBlock_XP.lua: StatBlock_XP: set label on create |
| 13:01.57 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78081 10StatBlock_DPS/StatBlock_DPS.lua: StatBlock_DPS: set label on create |
| 13:02.08 | cnc|work | do all languages follow the (RANK X) syntax for spell ranks ? (RANK being the localized word for "Rank" |
| 13:02.22 | cnc|work | s/languages/locals/ |
| 13:02.54 | Gnarfoz | don't bet on it |
| 13:03.17 | Gnarfoz | also, w00t, no reiser4 in linux, ever >_> |
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| 13:03.43 | cnc|work | Gnarfoz: why , |
| 13:03.43 | Daemona | at least not in the next 15 years |
| 13:03.52 | Elkano | damn... some people would have killed for that... ;) |
| 13:03.53 | cnc|work | the team gonna stop working on it ? :( |
| 13:03.58 | Gnarfoz | Elkano: *cough* ;P |
| 13:04.04 | Zergreth | cnc|work, german does, no idea about the others :P |
| 13:04.10 | cnc|work | bah |
| 13:04.13 | cnc|work | I liked reiser4 :p |
| 13:04.38 | Gnarfoz | head developer and inventor's going to jail for killing his wife... that's why, I guess |
| 13:04.45 | Daemona | reason could be Mr Reiser being sentenced 1st/2nd degree murder for getting rid of his wife |
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| 13:05.08 | Gnarfoz | the rest of 'his team' so far hasn't furthered the developement of it one bit, so I'm not hoping for much anymore |
| 13:05.20 | cnc|work | heh, ain't it pretty much rdy though ? |
| 13:05.25 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78082 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 13:05.25 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 13:05.25 | CIA-44 | - tooltipText -> tooltiptext |
| 13:05.26 | cnc|work | I've tested it on a test box and it seemed just fine |
| 13:05.43 | Gnarfoz | there's open issues the kernel folks want addressed before merging it in, is my understanding |
| 13:05.46 | ramoz | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systems&oldid=220529437#Features |
| 13:05.49 | ramoz | RE ReiserFS |
| 13:06.02 | cnc|work | rofl |
| 13:06.06 | cnc|work | "murders your wife" |
| 13:06.08 | cnc|work | someone spamming the page |
| 13:06.10 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 13:06.43 | ag` | I'm waitin for ZFS |
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| 13:09.11 | Funkeh` | ag`, your sysmon commit sucks |
| 13:09.26 | Funkeh` | unit = FPS? that's the label |
| 13:09.29 | Funkeh` | unit = fame |
| 13:09.32 | Funkeh` | frame |
| 13:09.46 | cnc|work | anyone has an acc on wikipedia |
| 13:09.51 | ag` | the label is Framerate Funkeh` |
| 13:09.55 | cnc|work | the filesystem page is anoying me |
| 13:09.59 | Funkeh` | that's a shitty label |
| 13:10.05 | Funkeh` | label is FPS |
| 13:10.09 | Funkeh` | because that's what it is |
| 13:10.26 | CIA-44 | 03madrak * r78083 10ORLIC/ (6 files): ORLIC: Added support for configurable primary/secondary keywords now! Also added sticky bidding and loot transparency to the configuration, but they will not be implemented on this version. |
| 13:10.31 | ag` | so what about memory Funkeh` |
| 13:10.40 | ag` | is the label Memory Usage or "MB" |
| 13:11.03 | Funkeh` | the label is the unit for memory |
| 13:11.05 | cnc|work | Framerate is actualy a synonim of Frames per Second isn't it ? |
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| 13:11.29 | cnc|work | actualy, FPS would be the unit of framerate |
| 13:11.32 | Funkeh` | No one wants to see "memory" as a label |
| 13:11.41 | ag` | that's why you can hide the label |
| 13:11.42 | Funkeh` | no it wouldn't |
| 13:11.48 | Funkeh` | DPS is an acronm not a unit |
| 13:11.51 | Funkeh` | FPS* |
| 13:11.56 | Zergreth | lol @ dps :D |
| 13:12.01 | cnc|work | my framerate is 10 frames per second |
| 13:12.07 | ag` | what about durability Funkeh`, is label "%" or "durability" |
| 13:12.11 | Zergreth | what the fuck are you doing to get it that low? |
| 13:12.17 | digmouse | First Person Shooting |
| 13:12.21 | Funkeh` | unit = % labale = D/durability etc |
| 13:12.23 | cnc|work | that sounds *very* much like FPS is the unit for framerate ;) |
| 13:12.28 | Funkeh` | your pic |
| 13:12.53 | Funkeh` | no, frames per second is the full unit, FPS is the acronym of the unit |
| 13:13.04 | Zergreth | what about f/s? |
| 13:13.13 | digmouse | I usually use lower case, fps |
| 13:13.26 | Funkeh` | I don't tend to ask for 10kg of cherrys when buying them |
| 13:13.31 | Funkeh` | you say kilograms or whatever |
| 13:13.47 | Zergreth | you dont write 10 kilograms though |
| 13:13.48 | Zergreth | :f |
| 13:13.53 | Kalroth | wtf ofc u use fps wen u say frams pr sec |
| 13:13.54 | Zergreth | or, rarely |
| 13:13.55 | ag` | I use ".label" for name/full (framerate/performance/whatever), and ".unit" for unit (fps/MB/percent) |
| 13:14.15 | Funkeh` | ag`, so basically you took my idea and turned it into shit |
| 13:14.21 | Zergreth | roflmao |
| 13:14.36 | ag` | I don't see how it is shit, consider an addon that doesn't use .label |
| 13:14.50 | ag` | but just .text |
| 13:14.54 | Funkeh` | what about an addon that doesnt use .unit? |
| 13:15.01 | ag` | it can use .text |
| 13:15.11 | ag` | in my .text I have "247 FPS" |
| 13:15.20 | Funkeh` | that isn't really justifying butchering .label |
| 13:16.08 | Funkeh` | imo the .unit crap was fail from the start |
| 13:16.24 | ag` | lets say your display doesn't care about .unit, but only .label and .text |
| 13:16.29 | Funkeh` | you basically changed .label to .unit and made .label useless |
| 13:16.39 | ag` | .label is far from useless |
| 13:16.45 | Funkeh` | no one cares to see "framerate" on their blocks |
| 13:16.50 | Funkeh` | they will choose fps or framerate |
| 13:16.58 | Funkeh` | not 10FPS Framerate |
| 13:17.01 | ag` | take the tracking addon for example |
| 13:17.14 | ag` | here the label is "tracking" and text is what you track |
| 13:17.15 | Funkeh` | that shouldnt even have either |
| 13:17.31 | Funkeh` | yeah maybe in that case |
| 13:17.38 | ag` | and clock |
| 13:17.45 | ag` | here label is "time" |
| 13:18.06 | ag` | in all my displays I also give .info |
| 13:18.06 | Funkeh` | and this justifies butchering .unit for memory how? |
| 13:18.13 | cnc|work | ain't there just an option to hide the labels ? |
| 13:18.17 | Funkeh` | um, .label |
| 13:18.22 | Matrix110 | Hmm is there any Addon that announces when I Interrupted a spell(GnomishInterrupter does that) AND if Counterspell is Resisted or the target is Immune to Counterspell(GnomishInterrupter does that not and I fail to implement it myself) |
| 13:18.32 | Funkeh` | cnc|work, yes butthats not the point |
| 13:18.54 | Funkeh` | ag`, basically if you keep this up I'm just going to start using a different naming scheme for my labels |
| 13:19.10 | Funkeh` | then everyone looses |
| 13:19.12 | ag` | but I just don't see why you want the unit in label |
| 13:19.21 | Funkeh` | I don't want unit at all |
| 13:19.34 | ag` | FPS is the unit for example |
| 13:19.35 | cnc|work | then hide it ? :p |
| 13:19.38 | Funkeh` | people want to see 10FPS 10MB and customize the fps and MB as is |
| 13:19.42 | Funkeh` | to framerate or memory |
| 13:19.52 | Funkeh` | I've been making SB ages now, trust me |
| 13:19.56 | Funkeh` | they don't want 2 values |
| 13:20.06 | ag` | Funkeh`, inc screenshot |
| 13:20.20 | Funkeh` | k |
| 13:20.24 | cnc|work | alternativly, you could set the label as framerate, and the text as 10FPS and scrap unit ? |
| 13:20.39 | Funkeh` | cnc|work, the idea is YOU customize the label |
| 13:20.49 | Funkeh` | so the label is FPS and you change the text if you want |
| 13:20.57 | Funkeh` | there is no need for a .unit |
| 13:21.07 | Stanzilla | so you can have "10 EFF PEE ESS" |
| 13:21.07 | ag` | http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4607/wowscrnshot070808152008cl3.jpg |
| 13:21.11 | Funkeh` | ys |
| 13:21.18 | ag` | Take a look at that |
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| 13:21.38 | Funkeh` | ag`, all that can be done easy with .label |
| 13:21.45 | Funkeh` | infact you barey even use label |
| 13:21.49 | Funkeh` | barely |
| 13:22.07 | ag` | label is turned off for framerate in that screenshot |
| 13:22.16 | Funkeh` | because it looks like shit? hmm yes |
| 13:22.43 | ag` | no, because I configured it that way in my display, to not show the label |
| 13:23.01 | Funkeh` | who in the right mind will have a plugin showing 10Mb Memory |
| 13:23.14 | cnc|work | Memory: 10Mb ? |
| 13:23.35 | Funkeh` | that's still pretty weak |
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| 13:23.48 | Zergreth | mhh, depends |
| 13:23.54 | Zergreth | all about preference i guess ;P |
| 13:24.07 | Funkeh` | then you need to have ANOTHER unit for the separator |
| 13:24.22 | ag` | also Funkeh` , in your .text you need to have "100 FPS", else you will break addons that doesn't use .label/.unit etc |
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| 13:24.33 | Funkeh` | no you won't |
| 13:24.40 | Funkeh` | you just downloaded an fps block |
| 13:24.47 | Funkeh` | and your display doesnt have label |
| 13:24.53 | Funkeh` | it will show 30 |
| 13:25.12 | Funkeh` | I think people will know it's fps, if the display doesn't have label, thats up to the users preference for choosing that display |
| 13:25.32 | Funkeh` | probably because they didn't want label in the first place |
| 13:26.11 | ag` | in the tracking plugin |
| 13:26.21 | ag` | your text might be "food" |
| 13:26.28 | ag` | and label "tracking" |
| 13:26.44 | Funkeh` | right |
| 13:27.00 | ag` | wouldn't it end up like "foodtracking" if you place the label behind the text? |
| 13:27.18 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 13:27.25 | Funkeh` | but then they just customize it |
| 13:28.00 | Zergreth | im hungry, recommend something i could eat |
| 13:28.19 | gi2k15 | anyone else having problems logging in? |
| 13:28.28 | Zergreth | gi2k15, us or eu? |
| 13:28.31 | gi2k15 | us |
| 13:28.40 | ag` | Funkeh`, the point is that you use label like the unit and I use label like the name |
| 13:28.54 | Zergreth | ah, well. eu is fine, no idea about us |
| 13:29.00 | gi2k15 | I'm stuck in the authentication screen |
| 13:29.03 | Funkeh` | yes but when I created .label it was never itended to be the name |
| 13:29.08 | Funkeh` | infact it was the "label" |
| 13:29.12 | gi2k15 | Can't even login on wow forums |
| 13:29.15 | Funkeh` | change yur addons to use .name if you want that |
| 13:29.32 | Funkeh` | because it's kinda sucky you taking .lable and changing what it was for |
| 13:29.33 | ag` | Funkeh`, I just did what tekkub wrote on his readme |
| 13:29.48 | Funkeh` | haven't read that |
| 13:29.51 | Funkeh` | sec |
| 13:29.54 | ag` | "A title for your feed, often shown to the left of the text, user might choose to hide this." |
| 13:30.15 | ag` | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 13:30.24 | Funkeh` | a title ~= name of plugin |
| 13:30.31 | Funkeh` | thats badly described imo |
| 13:30.56 | ag` | well ask Tekkub what he meant |
| 13:31.18 | Funkeh` | well he wrote it after what I made it so guess he got the wrong idea buts he's afk right now |
| 13:32.59 | ag` | anyway I currently use "label" like a short description or title atm, like that doc says |
| 13:33.25 | ag` | and then I have "FPS" in the .text |
| 13:33.40 | Funkeh` | well then ill change to use something else |
| 13:33.58 | ag` | I'm not saying we should do it my way |
| 13:34.12 | ag` | I just did what that doc said, we just gotta talk about it man |
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| 13:34.22 | Funkeh` | no I'm saying since I came up with the idea you should do it my way, but I'm pissed with you for turning it into crap |
| 13:35.23 | ag` | I don't get why I'm blamed for using label like described in the LDB readme |
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| 13:35.55 | Funkeh` | the readme is wrong |
| 13:36.24 | Funkeh` | It should be "A unit or label" not "a title" |
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| 13:37.48 | ag` | the question then is, what I'm going to ask tekkub about |
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| 13:38.01 | ag` | should .text be "100 fps" or "100" |
| 13:38.34 | ag` | I've always had "100 fps" inside .text |
| 13:38.38 | Funkeh` | that's your choice |
| 13:38.42 | Funkeh` | .text can be both |
| 13:38.55 | Funkeh` | it just means you won't customize the label |
| 13:39.07 | Funkeh` | tek uses 100fps in text for example |
| 13:39.12 | ag` | but won't that show up as "100 fps fps" if you enable label |
| 13:39.22 | Funkeh` | that works fine, just reducs customizability, but tek did tht on purpose |
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| 13:39.33 | Funkeh` | because he doesn't like customizability :D |
| 13:39.45 | ag` | what I'm trying to is max compatability in my addons |
| 13:39.52 | Funkeh` | if you have .label don't set fps I text I mean |
| 13:39.56 | Funkeh` | one or the either |
| 13:40.01 | cubicool | .text? Someone writing assembly? |
| 13:40.08 | cnc|work | more like lua |
| 13:40.20 | ag` | no Funkeh`, I want to give text with max compatability |
| 13:40.44 | Funkeh` | then the user can remove the label |
| 13:40.45 | ag` | while still providing the label for displays that uses label |
| 13:40.46 | Funkeh` | and have 100fs |
| 13:40.54 | Funkeh` | fps |
| 13:41.01 | Funkeh` | uncustomizable |
| 13:41.21 | selckin | does anyone have a combatlog with SPELL_DURABILITY_DAMAGE events in it? (nefarion breaking hunter bows? or what is that event for) |
| 13:41.26 | Funkeh` | if you set it in both that is |
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| 13:43.09 | hiflyer | fields (.text) having different meanings depending on the contents of other fields (.label) is bad design imo |
| 13:43.47 | Funkeh` | .text is decided by the display addon |
| 13:43.54 | Funkeh` | uh, no, the DO |
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| 13:52.40 | Swtz | hi there, good morning |
| 13:53.26 | Swtz | Anyone with bigwigs knowledge online atm? I am trying to make a extended Brutallus plugin but I am not having much luck. |
| 13:53.39 | RaydenU | how much hp should i have on my bear before i start stacking agility instead of stamina? |
| 13:54.34 | Mytos | id say atleast 15-17k unbuffed |
| 13:54.35 | Swtz | in my opinion, never. |
| 13:54.38 | Swtz | dodge is a gamble |
| 13:55.10 | Mytos | and even then dont stop stacking stam, just go for the half/half stam agi gems |
| 13:55.29 | cnc|work | stam armor stam armor stam armor tbh |
| 13:55.32 | cnc|work | dodge is worthless |
| 13:55.36 | cnc|work | it'll always proc when you need rage |
| 13:55.38 | Swtz | yup |
| 13:55.42 | cnc|work | and never when you need it |
| 13:55.53 | RaydenU | i'm looking on emmerald and the difference between their bear mitigation and high mitigation |
| 13:56.07 | RaydenU | for low they have you stack stamina for everything, for the high, they have you stack agility for everything |
| 13:56.10 | RaydenU | more armor? |
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| 13:56.52 | Swtz | armor is > everything til you are caped |
| 13:56.59 | RaydenU | i think i have about 14k unbuffed right now, so definitely still need stamina |
| 13:57.04 | Obelixprime | can someone give me a list of damage meter type addons/ |
| 13:57.15 | RaydenU | Recount. |
| 13:57.16 | Obelixprime | swstats, recount,...? |
| 13:58.01 | cnc|work | RaydenU: basicly stamina is your buffer and armor is what actualy mitigats |
| 13:58.01 | cnc|work | if bosses can't burst you for more then 14k hp in ~3 sec at ur gear lvl, GET ARMOR :p |
| 13:58.18 | Talez | Hey anyone here familiar with the Spartan UI mod pack thing |
| 13:58.29 | Mytos | whats the cap again, like 75% |
| 13:58.30 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78084 10StatBlock_XP/ (StatBlock_XP.lua StatBlock_XP.toc): StatBlock_XP: Now also creates a rested xp plugin |
| 13:58.33 | RaydenU | yeah |
| 13:58.33 | cnc|work | ya |
| 13:58.36 | cnc|work | 75% |
| 13:58.37 | Talez | I was wondering if you could get those animated health bars without the rest of the crap |
| 13:58.40 | RaydenU | i was 3rd tanking gruul |
| 13:58.41 | cnc|work | think its around 30k actual armor |
| 13:58.47 | Talez | or anyone know animated health bars :P |
| 13:58.49 | RaydenU | i was getting hit for 3/4 of my life around 10 grows |
| 13:59.05 | Mytos | i think im at 73.5%, i could probably go over but screw the badge when ive got the kael commendation and the lunacy deck |
| 13:59.15 | RaydenU | rofl |
| 13:59.23 | RaydenU | i logged out in my nekkid set |
| 13:59.47 | Swtz | see |
| 13:59.53 | Swtz | I regemed all my gear |
| 13:59.58 | Swtz | to 5/7 |
| 14:00.01 | Swtz | when we hit sunwell |
| 14:00.04 | Mytos | i always log out naked rayden lol |
| 14:00.15 | Swtz | result: I became squish |
| 14:00.21 | Swtz | and had to regem it all back. |
| 14:00.49 | Swtz | buffed: 22k HP/35k Armor/45% Dodge and I am doing fine now. |
| 14:01.17 | Mytos | why so much armor, thats way over the cap |
| 14:01.58 | cnc|work | armor cap is 30k isn't it ? |
| 14:02.02 | Swtz | nope |
| 14:02.10 | RaydenU | work time |
| 14:02.11 | Swtz | 37.5 |
| 14:02.11 | Concho | more like 40k iirc |
| 14:02.16 | Swtz | vs 73 |
| 14:02.17 | cnc|work | 35880 is the cap |
| 14:02.17 | Gnarfoz | level 73 cap ~= level 70 cap |
| 14:02.21 | cnc|work | just looked it up |
| 14:02.28 | cnc|work | hmmm, true |
| 14:02.37 | cnc|work | actualy, no |
| 14:02.42 | Concho | I only got 18k, but then again I got a shield |
| 14:02.42 | cnc|work | 32k vs 70, 35k vs 73 |
| 14:03.31 | Swtz | yup, I just looked up too. the 37.5 I said was wrong. The 35.880 is correct. |
| 14:04.31 | Swtz | my stats when I regemed (and became squish) were 20HP/35k Armor/51% dodge buffed |
| 14:05.15 | Concho | the 2k hp made uoi squish ? |
| 14:05.19 | Concho | you* |
| 14:06.07 | Swtz | trust me |
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| 14:06.30 | Swtz | we didnt kill Brut yet |
| 14:06.37 | Swtz | but the healers were all over me |
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| 14:06.48 | Kalroth | I got 21k HP, 20k armor, 33% dodge, 22% parry and uhmm, 30% block buffed! |
| 14:07.10 | Concho | buffed ? |
| 14:07.16 | Swtz | I am tanking sunwell with earthwarden :/ |
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| 14:07.53 | Kalroth | Concho: Yeah, I'm usually a DPS warrior, so I got mediocre tanking gear :p |
| 14:07.54 | Swtz | which is really sad |
| 14:08.26 | Concho | I'm ussually a prot warrior but that is still awsome avoidance |
| 14:08.30 | Swtz | Kalroth: Your gear is not mediocre |
| 14:08.45 | Kalroth | I still lack some proper trinkets and rings |
| 14:08.55 | Concho | I get buffed to 22k hp 18k armor, but I lack that amount of avoidance. |
| 14:08.56 | Kalroth | and I'm still using the badge belt |
| 14:09.10 | Concho | new badge belt ? |
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| 14:09.16 | Kalroth | yup, the expertise one |
| 14:09.29 | FinalX | druids need that avoidance.. they can't block or parry |
| 14:09.36 | Concho | I got the same. but then again I'm just starting in BT/MH |
| 14:09.37 | FinalX | that's also the reason they need the armor :P |
| 14:09.44 | hiflyer | slaps Kalroth for his false modesty |
| 14:09.49 | Swtz | back to my original question, does anyone have knowledge on coding bigwigs addons? I am willing to pay for a consulting :) |
| 14:09.53 | Kalroth | hiflyer: false?! |
| 14:09.59 | FinalX | and the reason druids get 1% dodge for every 14.75 agility instead of the 30 agility other classes need |
| 14:10.03 | Kalroth | hiflyer: I know I'm the best, nothing false about that! |
| 14:10.08 | hiflyer | "oh, look at me....my gear is so bad" :P |
| 14:10.11 | Kalroth | FinalX: 33 :( |
| 14:10.25 | Swtz | FinalX: Its good, but wont save ur life |
| 14:10.26 | Kalroth | I think? Or is that crit? |
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| 14:10.29 | FinalX | I'm playing my paladin tank mostly.. |
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| 14:10.39 | Kalroth | hiflyer: it is bad, for my level anyways :p |
| 14:10.42 | FinalX | got a warrior and druid tank too though |
| 14:10.50 | cnc|work | Swtz: I don't have any experience with it ,but wouldn't lookin at an already existing bigwigs addon help ? |
| 14:11.00 | Kalroth | My healers are bitching when I'm tanking sentinels :( |
| 14:11.07 | Concho | Kalroth what boss are you currently on ? |
| 14:11.11 | Kalroth | M'uru |
| 14:11.26 | Swtz | cnc|work: I did that, everything works around fixed amount of time intervals.. and I want to hard code the timeing of stuff. |
| 14:11.28 | Concho | nice. |
| 14:11.48 | Concho | currently a bit stuck on Archimonde. |
| 14:12.07 | Kalroth | Archimonde is fun, took us a while too |
| 14:12.12 | Swtz | We are "stuck" on Brutallus |
| 14:12.13 | Kalroth | Apparently staying out of the fire is hard |
| 14:12.30 | Swtz | we still have to give Arch 5 tries before he dies, hehe |
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| 14:13.23 | Concho | Archi requiers a very overall guild focus. a think my guild is lacking |
| 14:13.44 | Kalroth | Archimonde is actually more micromanagement |
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| 14:14.16 | Swtz | our best decurses are our resto druids. That makes healing a lil harder on them. |
| 14:14.25 | Kalroth | 4 groups with 1 decurser, 2 healers and 2 ranged dps. As long as 2 of those groups aren't running for the hills, then your MT should be fine. |
| 14:14.57 | Concho | well we are getting there had a few tries where we got him around 30% |
| 14:15.12 | cnc|work | Swtz: are your mages sleeping ? |
| 14:15.16 | hiflyer | if you can do it that far it's sounds like a matter of focus to me |
| 14:15.24 | cnc|work | the resto druids shld only do emergency decursing and stay on healing usualy |
| 14:15.31 | Swtz | cnc|work: Don't even get me started on them :) |
| 14:15.43 | cnc|work | get rid of them if they're useless tbh :p |
| 14:15.54 | cnc|work | if they're too lazy to decurse they're too lazy to get shiny epix too :p |
| 14:16.00 | hiflyer | resto druids should be able to decurse without losing much healing on the MT imo |
| 14:16.11 | cnc|work | yea, on the MT they shouldn't lose any |
| 14:16.14 | cnc|work | but they'll lose raid healing |
| 14:16.27 | Swtz | yup |
| 14:16.29 | cnc|work | and won't be able to stay in tree (though thats not applicable for achimonde) |
| 14:16.37 | Concho | also running around without tree form makes them less viable |
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| 14:16.44 | hiflyer | why not tree? |
| 14:16.50 | cnc|work | could be anoying with the fire |
| 14:16.51 | Concho | can't decurse in tree |
| 14:16.58 | cnc|work | and can't decurse either idd |
| 14:17.04 | cnc|work | though you're druids rly shldnt be decursing :p |
| 14:17.10 | Concho | true |
| 14:17.11 | hiflyer | true with the decursing...but otherwise it's fine :) |
| 14:17.14 | Concho | we got mages for that |
| 14:17.27 | cnc|work | ain't it a bit slow to move around for archimonde ? or is it fine ? |
| 14:17.34 | Swtz | cnc|work: Imagine Kalec'gos with the same mages/druids |
| 14:17.35 | cnc|work | (never did archi on a tree, currently rerolling one) |
| 14:17.36 | nevcairiel | in wotlk you can finally decurse in tree! |
| 14:17.44 | Swtz | it's fine if you have boar speed |
| 14:17.48 | cnc|work | nevcairiel: cool, means you'll never leave tree |
| 14:17.52 | hiflyer | good thing about the slow thing is that you run slow towards fires too |
| 14:17.54 | cnc|work | as you don't need HT anyway :p |
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| 14:18.07 | nevcairiel | cnc|work: you also get a new direct heal which might be worth using |
| 14:18.14 | cnc|work | what one ? |
| 14:18.17 | cnc|work | ah yea |
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| 14:18.23 | nevcairiel | flourish or what was it called |
| 14:18.23 | cnc|work | the one that heals more if you have hots on the target |
| 14:18.31 | cnc|work | it'll be yummy if each lifebloom counts as a HoT |
| 14:18.31 | godzirra | Howdy nevcairiel |
| 14:18.35 | cnc|work | (up to 60% in that case- |
| 14:18.37 | Concho | and another nice feature if you are feared and switch out of tree form 90% of the time you run in a different direction |
| 14:18.40 | godzirra | Did you get my PM yesterday? |
| 14:18.44 | godzirra | morning folks too, btw. :) |
| 14:18.48 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 14:18.49 | cnc|work | morning |
| 14:19.00 | Swtz | morning |
| 14:19.14 | godzirra | nevcairiel: Howdy! I love your addon, but was told to ask you for a feature if it was possible... bongos makes any buff/debuff you have on your bar show up with a pinkish glowing border when your target has that buff/debuff... That was insanely helpful. |
| 14:19.18 | godzirra | Thats what I said. :) |
| 14:19.25 | nevcairiel | use bongos if you like that feature :P |
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| 14:19.32 | Kalroth | nev is so fucking slack! |
| 14:19.56 | godzirra | I would but 1. Its not ace, and 2. its not being supported anymore. |
| 14:19.59 | nevcairiel | Or write a stand-alone addon to do that highlighting for all addons .) |
| 14:20.03 | nevcairiel | then use dominos |
| 14:20.09 | godzirra | Dominos doesn't do it. |
| 14:20.19 | cnc|work | godzirra: flexbar ? :p |
| 14:20.19 | nevcairiel | Also, Bongos3 is Ace |
| 14:20.35 | cnc|work | and also |
| 14:20.36 | godzirra | Huh.. I thought it'd be on the ace site of it was ace. Oh well, its still not being supported. |
| 14:20.39 | cnc|work | WHY do you care if an addon is ace ? |
| 14:20.49 | godzirra | And sadly, I'd have no clue where to start making my own mod. |
| 14:20.50 | cnc|work | bongos is decently written iirc |
| 14:20.59 | nevcairiel | its also ace :P |
| 14:21.01 | godzirra | cnc|work: Mostly because I was told ace takes less overhead? |
| 14:21.01 | nevcairiel | at least 3 |
| 14:21.03 | nevcairiel | and dominoes |
| 14:21.06 | cnc|work | godzirra: bullshit |
| 14:21.15 | godzirra | Huh. Okay. |
| 14:21.18 | cnc|work | good written addons take less overhead |
| 14:21.19 | cnc|work | not using ace |
| 14:21.23 | godzirra | heh. okay. |
| 14:21.34 | cnc|work | I'd suggest bongos personaly |
| 14:21.37 | Wraithan | godzirra: how much ram you running? |
| 14:21.43 | godzirra | 3 gigs |
| 14:21.45 | cnc|work | or if you're into complicated stuff, use flexbar |
| 14:21.59 | nevcairiel | I thought tuller implemented that in Dominos again |
| 14:22.00 | Wraithan | you don't actually care about the overhead, you just think you do |
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| 14:22.22 | Concho | I'm new to making mods and these frames are so unlogical. ( must be me) |
| 14:22.45 | godzirra | I can look... it wasn't when I tried it the other day. |
| 14:23.02 | nevcairiel | But if it doesnt, i guess you'll have to go without it .P |
| 14:23.05 | nevcairiel | i wont do it |
| 14:23.30 | godzirra | uh, ok. |
| 14:23.53 | Zicon | It IS in Dominos. |
| 14:24.11 | godzirra | Okay. i'll check it out then. |
| 14:24.24 | Concho | is there a function to mask icons in the API like what happens to spells when you are out of mana? |
| 14:24.29 | nevcairiel | I cant implement all features that are in other action bar addons |
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| 14:24.38 | nevcairiel | and thats one of those that i'll just not do :) |
| 14:24.45 | nevcairiel | mostly because i wouldnt use it personally :P |
| 14:25.03 | godzirra | *shrug* okay. Good enough reason. I wasn't f lipping out saying "ZOMG UR ADDON SUX" or anything. ;) |
| 14:25.14 | Swtz | in bigwigs is there a way to run a dry run of the extended addon you developed? Or you have to actually go to the boss and try it out? |
| 14:26.06 | Stanzilla | godzirra: It's Dominos_Buff |
| 14:26.15 | godzirra | Ahhh |
| 14:26.16 | godzirra | Thanks. |
| 14:27.24 | AckisWork | Swtz: put your enable code in bigwigs onenable to test it out a little bit |
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| 14:28.23 | Swtz | thanks AckisWork |
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| 14:33.49 | Wraithan | nevcairiel: what feature was he looking for? |
| 14:34.10 | CIA-44 | 03Copystring * r78085 10YurrCombatLog/ (Core.lua YurrCombatLog.toc): |
| 14:34.10 | CIA-44 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 14:34.10 | CIA-44 | - fix nil line 3398 |
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| 14:39.16 | Gnarfoz | btw, I find it funny how the same people can say both "why do you care if addon X uses framework Y" and "omg addon Z sucks because it uses framework A, leaving me with that much more useless framework cruft" ;P |
| 14:41.06 | Talez | Hey, anyone know if there is a Unit frame mod with animated health bars like the one in Spartan UI |
| 14:41.51 | Swtz | Is there any api documentation on how to use frames on bigwigs? |
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| 14:45.41 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r78086 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc: |
| 14:45.41 | CIA-44 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:45.41 | CIA-44 | - Version bump |
| 14:45.41 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
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| 14:56.18 | Swtz | what do you guys use for code editing? |
| 14:56.25 | cubicool | vim! |
| 14:56.28 | nevcairiel | notepad++ |
| 14:56.29 | [Ammo] | notepad++ under windows and joe under linux |
| 14:56.30 | AckisWork | abacas |
| 14:56.34 | digmouse | EditPlus |
| 14:56.36 | profalbert1 | kate |
| 14:56.57 | Swtz | hehe, nice |
| 14:57.14 | digmouse | EditPlus with lua file |
| 14:58.39 | Olison | http://macromates.com/ |
| 14:59.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I prefer to use Copy Con |
| 14:59.40 | Drundia | copy con ftw |
| 15:00.25 | Swtz | never saw copy con |
| 15:00.59 | ZealotOnAStick | old DOS CLI joke. |
| 15:01.54 | durcyn | real men hold up raw disk platters and catch cosmic rays to shift their bits for them |
| 15:02.09 | Olison | Oh no, don't start it |
| 15:04.00 | Maels | *causes a buterfly to sneeze* |
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| 15:06.29 | CIA-44 | 03borlox * r78087 10Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:06.29 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 15:06.29 | CIA-44 | - fixed showIcon not using GetPluginSetting |
| 15:06.29 | CIA-44 | - added master plugin description: |
| 15:06.29 | CIA-44 | Master Plugin settings count for all plugins in master mode. Per default all |
| 15:06.29 | CIA-44 | plugins are in master mode. Once a plugin's setting is changed individually, it |
| 15:06.31 | CIA-44 | is removed from the master mode. To get it back, use the "Use Master Settings" |
| 15:06.50 | Dark_Elf | i was reading that 2.4.3 wont be released today but another build is already in the works, blizzard hasnt update in almost 2 months, why they cant give us the bugs they have fixed now is beyond me, with everyone paying 15 a month they could at least issue small patches monthly. :( thats my gripe for today :p |
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| 15:09.58 | Fisker- | Because moving small patches is troublesome and lenghtens the developement process |
| 15:11.10 | Dark_Elf | they didnt seem to have a problem with it prior to 2.3 they were issuing patches regularly |
| 15:11.36 | Funkeh` | o..k |
| 15:11.40 | durcyn | that's a nifty tantrum you've worked out in your head |
| 15:11.41 | Funkeh` | how old is "tethyr" |
| 15:11.46 | Funkeh` | big fish that attacks theramore |
| 15:11.52 | Funkeh` | saw it for the first time today |
| 15:11.57 | Funkeh` | looks like the fish in ssc |
| 15:12.12 | Funkeh` | lurker |
| 15:12.26 | profalbert | Funkeh`: It's old |
| 15:12.28 | ulic | pretty old, don't remember how old though. |
| 15:12.31 | Swtz | hmm |
| 15:12.44 | profalbert | but I noticed him quite late too |
| 15:12.49 | Funkeh` | did it come with the theramore re-make? |
| 15:12.57 | Swtz | on bigwigs, self:Bar(L["stomp_bar"], 30, 45185), the 45185 is the icon I am using, right? |
| 15:12.59 | Funkeh` | um dustwallow remake |
| 15:13.04 | nevcairiel | yes it did |
| 15:13.05 | nevcairiel | 2.3 |
| 15:13.06 | durcyn | Funkeh`: 2.3.0 |
| 15:13.16 | Funkeh` | I see |
| 15:14.50 | Funkeh` | Swtz, it's the spell ID to fetch the icon for |
| 15:14.56 | Funkeh` | wowhead.com type in spells |
| 15:15.05 | Funkeh` | you get the id in the url |
| 15:17.01 | Swtz | thanks Funkeh` |
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| 15:26.28 | cubicool | Does anyone know of an AddOn I can look at that uses AceDB-3.0 using the "embedded" method? (That is, its setup during NewAddon(...)) |
| 15:26.44 | nevcairiel | No |
| 15:26.50 | nevcairiel | because something like that doesnt exist |
| 15:26.56 | nevcairiel | AceDB-3.0 is not embedable |
| 15:27.38 | Fisker- | i am you |
| 15:28.16 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: do you have a timer that reminds you to spout random utterances into channels, btw? ;D |
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| 15:36.53 | Stanzilla | Funkeh` / ag` [2008/07/08 17:32:29-1555-x1]: FuBar2Broker-1.0\FuBar2Broker.lua:323: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) FuBar2Broker-1.0\FuBar2Broker.lua:332: in main chunk + alot of "Font not Set" errors |
| 15:37.27 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, whatever you did, undo it ! |
| 15:37.45 | Stanzilla | I didn't do anything bad :P |
| 15:38.03 | Funkeh` | maybe it was good but turned bad? :P |
| 15:38.03 | pb_ee1 | you DID! Your name ends with "zilla" !! |
| 15:38.17 | pb_ee1 | runs away. |
| 15:38.32 | Funkeh` | is firefox bad too because it's made by mozilla? :o |
| 15:39.13 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: hmmm I chose another font from sharedmedia..maybe a load order issue again? |
| 15:39.29 | Stanzilla | *tries* |
| 15:39.39 | vithos | firefox is just less bad than everything else, so yeah! |
| 15:40.15 | Mytos | "less bad than everything else" that should be their new motto |
| 15:40.25 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78088 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: FuBar2Broker: Error fix |
| 15:40.35 | Stanzilla | tehehe |
| 15:40.40 | Swtz | Folks, if you have bigwigs knowledge would you please check out my script on http://ace.pastey.net/90935 and comment on it? As the servers are down, I can't actually try it yet.I am trying to set up a tank rotation for Brutallus. |
| 15:41.04 | Swtz | Its my first bigwigs script or lua script for that matter, so bear with me :) |
| 15:41.26 | Funkeh` | lol Mytos |
| 15:41.50 | Mytos | somebody start a petition and send it to mozilla |
| 15:42.45 | Kazie | Hmm.. is it possible to make the macro text show the mana cost of a certain spell? |
| 15:43.12 | _rane | if you can get the mana cost with GetSpellInfo(), yes |
| 15:43.14 | Kazie | or just in someway have the macro show the manacost for a certain spell? |
| 15:43.38 | Funkeh` | Swtz, you really should look at other external plugins.. not sure what the .enabletrigger = oneenable is about, shouldn't that be boss? also don't get genericbossdeath, again look at how other sunwell plugins handle it with sync |
| 15:43.47 | Funkeh` | otherwise you get extra boss death messages |
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| 15:44.32 | Kazie | Nice, how do i mix it with a spell? :) or more important, how do i make the macro show it? and can i do so without hovering it? :) |
| 15:45.38 | _rane | Kazie: local _, _, _, cost = GetSpellInfo(<spell_id>); DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(cost) |
| 15:46.47 | Kazie | Ahh... i guess i'll have to read a little about that local and getspellinfo and stuff before casting my self into it :) |
| 15:48.07 | Swtz | Funkeh`: the onenable is just for testing, so I enable it and it starts doing its stuff. Without me actually having to go to the boss. The genericbossdeath I riped from the default brut plugin, but yes, I can just drop it I think as the original one will still be running. I am concerned with the function mod:CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_YELL(msg), I am not sure if the way I set it up is the correct way. There's no other boss that has non-looping bars happening, so I tried |
| 15:48.13 | Swtz | Wall of text ftl. |
| 15:52.46 | cubicool | _, _, _, x = ...; isn't that a good candidate for select()? |
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| 15:53.08 | Stanzilla | ag`: Broker_Durability and _Clock don't accept blank values as "Text Display". after a /rl it has the old values again |
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| 15:53.51 | DARKGuy | o/ |
| 15:53.52 | Stanzilla | + there is no way to give "fps" a different color than the value but that's the discussion you had with Funkeh` about "labels" :P |
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| 15:56.57 | Funkeh` | I'm gonna talk to tekkub about changing the description but if ag` doesn't change it I will just make separate blocks, choice I guess |
| 15:58.17 | Josh_Borke | Funkeh`: what is the discussion? |
| 15:58.23 | ag` | I just think that .text should be something all displays can use, even simple ones that only look for text, which means .text should be "24 fps" for example. In my plugins I provide .info too, which is the pure number |
| 15:59.09 | Funkeh` | can't argue it "again" right now, busy :P |
| 15:59.34 | Josh_Borke | ~ldb |
| 15:59.35 | purl | somebody said ldb was a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 16:01.12 | Josh_Borke | hm, i side with ag, but i missed the other side of the argument so...yea |
| 16:02.20 | Funkeh` | Josh_Borke, I decided to use a .label for my blocks like "fps" and such and ag` started using .label and butchering it beyond it's meaning basically |
| 16:03.04 | ag` | Josh_Borke, the point is that Funkeh` wants to be able to color and hide "fps", so in .text he only puts the number, and then puts "fps" in .label |
| 16:03.25 | Funkeh` | I don't care if fps is put in text |
| 16:03.35 | Funkeh` | I care when you put cra in label |
| 16:03.38 | Funkeh` | crap* |
| 16:03.44 | ag` | I put the label in label |
| 16:04.49 | nevcairiel | I thought there was a spec on those shit o.O |
| 16:04.49 | Funkeh` | no you put crap in label :P |
| 16:04.57 | ag` | I don't put crap in label |
| 16:05.00 | Funkeh` | you do |
| 16:05.02 | ag` | I put the label in label |
| 16:05.31 | ag` | nevcairiel, there is, and I follow it, but Funkeh` says it's crap |
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| 16:05.47 | nevcairiel | what do you exactly put in label? |
| 16:06.00 | Funkeh` | no you put addon name in label |
| 16:06.01 | ag` | "Framerate", and .text is "42 fps" for example |
| 16:06.08 | ramoz | [Ammo]: http://ramoz.modportal.net/WoWScrnShot_070708_221041.jpg |
| 16:06.16 | nevcairiel | sounds good |
| 16:06.21 | Funkeh` | dude when I made .label it was NOT intended for descriptions and addon names |
| 16:06.33 | nevcairiel | whats supposed to go in label then? |
| 16:06.38 | nevcairiel | in your opinion |
| 16:06.46 | Stanzilla | "fps" |
| 16:07.01 | ag` | I have that in .text |
| 16:07.08 | nevcairiel | imho ag`'s usage is better |
| 16:07.37 | Stanzilla | how can I give "30" and "fps" a different color in ag`'s usage? |
| 16:07.40 | ag` | I also give .info and .unit, which is "42" and "fps" |
| 16:07.44 | Stanzilla | or is that display addon business? |
| 16:07.51 | ag` | then you can concecrate those strings and color the unit |
| 16:07.52 | nevcairiel | texts can include |c tags |
| 16:08.01 | Funkeh` | fps, MB, dps etc |
| 16:08.32 | nevcairiel | info and unit seem very specific |
| 16:08.40 | nevcairiel | and shouldnt really be supported by a display addon |
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| 16:09.19 | aestil__ | woot! server drama |
| 16:09.29 | aestil__ | Josh_Borke: Etwins down! |
| 16:10.14 | Stanzilla | gz |
| 16:10.33 | DARKGuy | greed roll when you pass, roll all on need, need need need! |
| 16:10.49 | DARKGuy | is now playing: Just Loot It.flv |
| 16:11.02 | Vulcanus | nyhm ftw |
| 16:11.19 | Vulcanus | guy can't sing for shit but lyrics pwn for the most part |
| 16:11.22 | DARKGuy | hell yeah <3 |
| 16:11.23 | DARKGuy | XD |
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| 16:15.20 | Funkeh` | le sigh |
| 16:17.24 | ckknight | okay take a nap |
| 16:17.28 | ckknight | and then fire ze missiles! |
| 16:19.32 | Josh_Borke | aestil__: grats! |
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| 16:21.12 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 16:22.00 | Fisker- | fire ze viruses ckknight |
| 16:22.01 | Josh_Borke | the description on tek's page is appropriate I think. when considering the 'normal' uses for label, it fits |
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| 16:24.15 | Josh_Borke | as far as I can remember, there was a lot of discussion about what the data objects can do. I think the concept of separating what is data and what is displayed is the core of the issue. perhaps, in light of things like fps, mem usage, etc, a possible field that could be standardized is a 'raw' field |
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| 16:24.29 | Josh_Borke | i agree with nev in that info and unit are very specific and don't really fit |
| 16:28.38 | Stanzilla | ag`: gimme left click for fubar2broker plugins :( |
| 16:30.58 | Funkeh` | well we need to agree on a standardized thing or ill just switch to using unit instead of label since thats what he's using for the labels |
| 16:32.06 | Josh_Borke | gd that ag |
| 16:32.10 | Josh_Borke | he's a dirty mfer |
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| 16:32.17 | Funkeh` | idd |
| 16:33.05 | Vulcanus | Labels. Serios business. |
| 16:33.09 | ckknight | is the .wau format documented somewhere? |
| 16:33.41 | Funkeh` | don't count on it |
| 16:33.44 | Funkeh` | but maybe |
| 16:33.49 | p3lim | topic reply mail notification fixed? :O |
| 16:33.58 | nevcairiel | did you get one? |
| 16:34.25 | Josh_Borke | Funkeh`: do you agree that something like .raw is better than .info? |
| 16:34.29 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: what about you? |
| 16:34.35 | Funkeh` | I truly don't care |
| 16:34.42 | Funkeh` | I want something we all use the same one |
| 16:35.35 | Funkeh` | personally I think both .info and .raw suck, but really, I don't mind as long we we can get the same thing used |
| 16:35.45 | Josh_Borke | meh, i'm glad forward progress is being made |
| 16:36.42 | Funkeh` | If I had it my way the standard would be .data and .text for labels etc :P |
| 16:37.43 | Fisker- | i am probably the best pvp'er ever |
| 16:37.48 | p3lim | nevcairiel: I got one yeah, but I should have gotten 3.. very odd |
| 16:37.55 | Fisker- | ya hear me? |
| 16:38.15 | vithos | 'data' makes sense to me, the rest are a matter of choosing terms. title, unit/label/text |
| 16:38.52 | vithos | unit is probably out, because it's not general enough |
| 16:39.01 | Josh_Borke | data makes sense to me also, but also text makes sense in that it is what is expected to be shown |
| 16:39.17 | nevcairiel | text should simply be the full text to show |
| 16:39.23 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 16:39.24 | nevcairiel | label a descriptive text telling what it shows |
| 16:39.31 | nevcairiel | I liked ag's example |
| 16:39.40 | nevcairiel | "Framerate" in label and "42 fps" in text |
| 16:40.00 | vithos | but then you can't disable just the "fps" part? |
| 16:40.16 | nevcairiel | unless the data block supports it, no |
| 16:40.31 | nevcairiel | but thats a very specific request really |
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| 16:40.37 | nevcairiel | and shouldnt be handled by the viewer |
| 16:40.49 | vithos | perhaps, but then what's the point of having fields? |
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| 16:41.14 | vithos | i'm coming into this late, sorry if that's a stupid question |
| 16:41.39 | durcyn | so have a verbose field, a value field, and a unit field? flexibility is good, yes? |
| 16:42.10 | nevcairiel | unit is too specific |
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| 16:43.10 | nevcairiel | what blocks really need a unit? |
| 16:43.30 | nevcairiel | thats only the performance thingys, and maybe gold |
| 16:43.40 | vithos | maybe coming up with a diverse list of examples would help figure out what makes the most sense |
| 16:44.05 | nevcairiel | imho it should just be "text" and "label" |
| 16:44.13 | durcyn | nevcairiel: splitting 'bare' and 'detailed' would still be useful though |
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| 16:48.16 | vithos | maybe this is a bad idea, but what about not standardizing on terms, and instead having a tag system similar to how dogtags work? so the data that can actually change are tags, and the labels are just part of the default user-editable thing? and the icon is a tag |
| 16:48.54 | vithos | i think what you're talking about now are just fields that can be turned on or off? maybe reordered right? |
| 16:49.27 | ckknight | I have an idea about packaging, perhaps someone in here can tell me if they have a better idea |
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| 16:49.54 | ckknight | this is specifically for curseforge, but could be applied to wowace eventually |
| 16:50.02 | Josh_Borke | vithos: i dislike the tags idea |
| 16:50.09 | Josh_Borke | durcyn: i agree with you |
| 16:50.10 | ckknight | you have a config file in your project root called something like .cfconfig |
| 16:50.20 | Josh_Borke | and why do people say i don't disagree, that makes me mad |
| 16:50.46 | ckknight | that's a yaml file with the general layout of: |
| 16:50.47 | ckknight | packaging: |
| 16:50.47 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.48 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.48 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.53 | selckin | QQ my video card is blocking access to my other sata 2 plugs and i just bought a new hd |
| 16:50.55 | Josh_Borke | omg, yaml |
| 16:50.57 | Josh_Borke | cries |
| 16:51.13 | ckknight | basically, it'd replace the client-specific .wau files with something that'd be handled on the server side |
| 16:51.27 | ckknight | so the resultant zip would have all the folders in it rather than any processing need to take place on the client side |
| 16:51.32 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: got a better idea? |
| 16:51.36 | ckknight | I'm fully willing to hear it |
| 16:52.00 | Josh_Borke | can you put an example in pastey |
| 16:52.05 | ckknight | sure |
| 16:52.14 | Josh_Borke | i don't know about these things, but i can give you my opinion |
| 16:52.26 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/90943 |
| 16:52.50 | ckknight | what that'd do is move folders from Cartographer3/Modules/Waypoints to Cartographer3_Waypoints (as specified) |
| 16:52.57 | ckknight | or to whereever you want, really |
| 16:53.28 | ckknight | so the resultant zip in that case would have 3 folders, Cartographer3, Cartographer3_Waypoints, and Cartographer3_InstanceNotes |
| 16:53.38 | Josh_Borke | when is the zip created? |
| 16:53.41 | ckknight | rather than just Cartographer3 with the modules inside |
| 16:53.50 | Hjalte | Anyone experimenting with Tekkubs Quickie addon? I tried installing it with FuBar2Broker to see how that went, but right now, I can't find Quickie when being logged in. I wonder if it's working. |
| 16:53.51 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: every 20 minutes, like it is now |
| 16:54.10 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: well, every 20 minutes if there's a change |
| 16:54.28 | Josh_Borke | i mean in general, like on curseforge |
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| 16:54.31 | Josh_Borke | same deal? |
| 16:54.44 | ckknight | yea |
| 16:55.10 | ckknight | curseforge does the :00, :20, :40 thing just like wowace |
| 16:55.55 | Josh_Borke | seems fine and dandy, you just have to write the server software to do it |
| 16:56.06 | ckknight | yea, that's easy |
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| 16:56.31 | ckknight | I'm more just wondering if you think it's a good idea and if there's a better way to do it |
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| 16:57.24 | Josh_Borke | i'm opposed to disembedding, but realize that people want that feature and so if you are going to support that, then this seems like a good way to optimize the load |
| 16:57.32 | p3lim | I need some help |
| 16:57.37 | Josh_Borke | p3lim: don't we all |
| 16:57.47 | p3lim | Im trying to make a durability code |
| 16:58.02 | p3lim | Scan all equipped items and return the lowest durability one |
| 16:58.22 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: this is just for modules, not libraries |
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| 16:58.45 | ckknight | I want the ability to have LoD modules easily for everyone |
| 16:58.56 | p3lim | If the lowest one has 5 or less return yellow color, if at 1 then return red color, else return black color.. |
| 17:00.33 | ulic | ckknight: would that force people to run their modules as modules, or would there still be an all-in-one option? Just curious. |
| 17:01.07 | ckknight | ulic: it would force them to run as modules |
| 17:01.16 | ckknight | but it's really up to the author whether they'd want to do it this way or not |
| 17:01.21 | ckknight | they could have it handled client-side if they wanted |
| 17:01.30 | ckknight | which would put more options in the hands of the user |
| 17:02.08 | ckknight | but removing some of the niceties of having everyone use the modular way |
| 17:02.17 | ckknight | as well as not trap people to a specific client |
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| 17:02.22 | ckknight | (or any client at all) |
| 17:02.23 | p3lim | Anyone know a good way to do what I want? |
| 17:02.41 | Josh_Borke | oh, it forces everyone? i thought it would produce 2 zips, one with modules taken out and one with modules still inside |
| 17:03.29 | ckknight | no, Josh_Borke |
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| 17:03.59 | ckknight | p3lim: I did similar things in DurabilityFu... |
| 17:05.02 | p3lim | ckknight: Ill take a look |
| 17:06.11 | aestil__ | i hate the idea of embedded libs. |
| 17:06.14 | aestil__ | it makes no sense to me. |
| 17:06.25 | p3lim | ckknight: Does DurabilityFu use any libs for the durability part? |
| 17:06.54 | Josh_Borke | aestil__: that's nice, go crawl back in your hole :-P |
| 17:07.08 | Josh_Borke | aestil: embedded takes no effort, disembedded does. |
| 17:07.21 | aestil__ | it takes no effort on my part :) |
| 17:07.22 | ckknight | p3lim: don't think so |
| 17:07.48 | ulic | embedded is nice for AddOn newbs. |
| 17:07.52 | ckknight | embedded = rife with library upgrade issues, disembedded = practically no issues with upgrading |
| 17:08.17 | Josh_Borke | aestil: imagine you are a brand new user to wow and you want to install an addon that requires Ace3. what do you do? do you download some addon manager then try to find the addon? how does the user get the Ace3 libs? |
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| 17:08.56 | Josh_Borke | do you include Ace3 in your addon? what if the version you have has a serious bug in it |
| 17:08.57 | selckin | the author goes, my addon needs these library <link> <link> <link> |
| 17:09.48 | Josh_Borke | and as a new user I'll say, but why? |
| 17:09.58 | profalbert | i know a lot of pple that don't use any addon-manager at all (but use 50+ addons) |
| 17:10.15 | ckknight | doesn't use an addon manager |
| 17:10.25 | Josh_Borke | neither do i |
| 17:10.43 | aestil__ | i'm not saying the option for embeded libs shouldn't be there. |
| 17:10.50 | aestil__ | i'm saying i don't want my libs embedded |
| 17:11.19 | Josh_Borke | what should the default be? |
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| 17:12.18 | ckknight | if they have no addon manager, embedded, if they do, disembedded |
| 17:12.21 | ckknight | imo |
| 17:12.25 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78089 10/trunk/ (7 files in 7 dirs): .trunk: Broker Plugins: move .label etc to object creation |
| 17:12.46 | profalbert | jwowupdater does disembedded by default, so that's a step in the right direction i guess |
| 17:13.00 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: i'd agree with that |
| 17:14.00 | vithos | what ~blizzard style buff mod supports buttonfacade? |
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| 17:14.32 | Stanzilla | hm buffalo |
| 17:14.50 | vithos | 1 2 or 3? |
| 17:15.00 | Hjalte | Funkeh`: First load of StatBlockCore: http://ace.pastey.net/90945 |
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| 17:15.47 | selckin | can you plug normal pci cards in pci-e? ;o |
| 17:16.31 | NivFreak | depends on the board |
| 17:16.37 | NivFreak | er |
| 17:16.37 | NivFreak | wait |
| 17:16.38 | NivFreak | no |
| 17:16.40 | NivFreak | you can not |
| 17:16.45 | selckin | :( |
| 17:16.47 | Stanzilla | vithos: 1 |
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| 17:17.02 | vithos | thanks stan |
| 17:17.07 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78090 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: use .unit |
| 17:17.45 | profalbert | vithos: 3 should also, but is still in branches (suppose for a reason) |
| 17:17.59 | Funkeh` | Hjalte, are you using FuBar2Broker |
| 17:18.03 | vithos | yeah i tried 3 a few days ago, not usable yet i guess |
| 17:18.04 | p3lim | What is all those Broker addons btw? |
| 17:18.07 | Hjalte | Funkeh`: Yep. |
| 17:18.13 | profalbert | ~ldb |
| 17:18.14 | purl | somebody said ldb was a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 17:18.18 | Funkeh` | could but some wierdness with that not setting .text |
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| 17:18.38 | p3lim | They are all libs? |
| 17:19.11 | profalbert | p3lim: no they are distributing data to be displayed in ldb-viewer addons |
| 17:19.16 | profalbert | like fortress, quickie |
| 17:19.18 | Stanzilla | profalbert: 3 is broken to the extreme. I posted some patches in the forum thread but seems like the author is "afk" :P |
| 17:19.52 | p3lim | youre talking about Broker_Clock, Broker_Mail etc right? |
| 17:20.28 | profalbert | p3lim: these are ldb-addons providing the data, yes |
| 17:20.33 | p3lim | ok |
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| 17:24.04 | p3lim | ~seen snago |
| 17:24.25 | purl | snago <i=kvirc@81-231-141-234-no32.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 7h 22m 22s ago, saying: 'It makes me feel filthy and dirty'. |
| 17:24.45 | p3lim | probably asleep |
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| 17:25.43 | Fisker- | ~seen tekkub |
| 17:25.44 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 8h 25m 51s ago, saying: '*sigh* on that note I'm going to bed'. |
| 17:27.08 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78091 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: tweak |
| 17:28.54 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: atm I get "87" "fpsfps(colored)", do I have to updated the Broker_ plugins, too for that to work? :P |
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| 17:29.36 | Funkeh` | if the broker plugin gives fps in .text there is nothing you can do |
| 17:29.49 | Funkeh` | delete the extra fps and have a non colored one |
| 17:31.16 | Stanzilla | eww |
| 17:31.34 | Funkeh` | not my fault :P |
| 17:32.00 | Stanzilla | lies :( |
| 17:32.02 | Funkeh` | it will infact take the color from the value color |
| 17:32.07 | Funkeh` | so it's not that bad |
| 17:32.38 | selckin | spot the joke http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systems&oldid=220529437#Features |
| 17:33.05 | Dashkal | ... |
| 17:33.11 | Dashkal | that's bad even for wikipedia |
| 17:33.18 | selckin | aye |
| 17:33.30 | Funkeh` | This article appears to contradict the article File Allocation Table. Please see discussion on the linked talk page. |
| 17:33.31 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 17:33.38 | selckin | was only a mather of time tho |
| 17:33.41 | Obelixprime | anyone good with vim? |
| 17:33.48 | nevcairiel | why dont you just use |c tags in text strings? |
| 17:33.49 | selckin | Obelixprime: i pretend to be, so maybe |
| 17:33.52 | Dashkal | no argument there |
| 17:33.56 | durcyn | note the &oldid on that wiki article, that was months ago |
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| 17:34.01 | durcyn | Obelixprime: Eh? |
| 17:34.17 | Obelixprime | i want to know if there's a way to delete just a range of lines without being at the first line |
| 17:34.25 | Obelixprime | like 5dd will delete 5 lines from where my cursor is |
| 17:34.42 | durcyn | 5dk |
| 17:34.42 | Obelixprime | but say i want to delete likes 6-10 and my cursor is on like 2 |
| 17:34.49 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: it is, looks crap :( |
| 17:35.06 | durcyn | Obelixprime: you can go up and down, don't believe you can start at non-cursor |
| 17:35.12 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, open up the file and edit it |
| 17:35.15 | Funkeh` | simple ;p |
| 17:35.20 | Stanzilla | :< |
| 17:35.21 | Obelixprime | i'd have to go into visual mode basically? |
| 17:35.27 | nevcairiel | no one answerd my question yet |
| 17:35.36 | nevcairiel | (19:33:37) (@nevcairiel) why dont you just use |c tags in text strings? |
| 17:35.39 | durcyn | Obelixprime: no, just jump and #dd? |
| 17:35.49 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, can you explain further how that would work? |
| 17:35.57 | Dashkal | selckin: bonus points reading the revision notes |
| 17:36.10 | nevcairiel | |c<somehex>57|r fps |
| 17:36.11 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 17:36.12 | Obelixprime | durcyn: i suck at counting though, and i don't know how many lines there are lol |
| 17:36.29 | Obelixprime | i'm always off when i do the subtraction |
| 17:36.41 | nevcairiel | how do you set the color now? |
| 17:36.43 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, then you won't be able to color the 57 |
| 17:37.05 | Funkeh` | I use hex for the label/unit whatever and the fontstring color for the value |
| 17:37.06 | durcyn | Obelixprime: so go to the first line and use d/string |
| 17:37.18 | durcyn | Obelixprime: to remove everything before that string |
| 17:39.56 | Stanzilla | meh I blanked the unit="" and it still shows O_O |
| 17:40.41 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, leave the unit, blank the text |
| 17:40.55 | Funkeh` | not totally obviously |
| 17:42.29 | Stanzilla | If I blank the field in the opens, both "fps" disappear |
| 17:42.42 | Stanzilla | *options |
| 17:43.40 | Stanzilla | I want "78(red) fps(blue)" for example |
| 17:43.58 | Funkeh` | sec |
| 17:44.01 | Obelixprime | that's a high fps |
| 17:44.34 | Funkeh` | revert everything you did |
| 17:44.55 | AckisWork | ~seen antiarc |
| 17:44.56 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (19h 4m 2s) #wowace (19h 4m 2s) #curseforge (19h 4m 2s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 12h 32m 16s, last said: 'There's an Omen jira project, yeah'. |
| 17:45.25 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, simply change self.text = format("%s %s", framerate, self.unit) |
| 17:45.25 | Funkeh` | to self.text = framerate |
| 17:45.32 | Funkeh` | everything else put it the way it was |
| 17:47.38 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: <3 |
| 17:48.19 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r78092 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: ZulAman/Malacrass: fix guid |
| 17:50.30 | NeoTron_ | http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/aviation-security/2008/Jul/01/want-some-torture-with-your-peanuts/ <-- if that isn't the daily WTF I don't know what is |
| 17:52.58 | Dashkal | ... |
| 17:53.12 | Dashkal | And people have asked what's wrong with me when I say I don't want a higher paying job south of the border... |
| 17:54.41 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r78093 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: koKR Update |
| 17:55.00 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.49 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78094 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: slash cmd typo |
| 17:58.10 | NeoTron_ | that'd be a great hack |
| 17:58.10 | NeoTron_ | AoE shock for everyone in the plane or even more fun, airport |
| 17:58.18 | Obelixprime | statblock is supposed to be a fubar replacement, correct? |
| 18:01.52 | Swtz | Funkeh`: Which menu should I find 3rd party modules on Bigwigs? Isnt it under extras? |
| 18:02.17 | Funkeh` | plugins or extras, can't remember |
| 18:02.21 | Funkeh` | depends what options you set |
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| 18:04.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:05.51 | Stanzilla | points at Tekkub |
| 18:06.03 | Tekkub | ow |
| 18:07.08 | Hjalte | Tekkub: I was trying out Quickie earlier, it's not in a working stage yet, right? |
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| 18:07.19 | Tekkub | it works |
| 18:08.16 | Silviu- | Tekkub the LDB folder inside tourguide from github contains no lib ;p something i did wrong ? ;) |
| 18:08.46 | Tekkub | it probably went in as a submodule, pain in my ass |
| 18:09.13 | Silviu- | I "fixed" it by manual dl the lib and place it in tourguide :) |
| 18:09.17 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Hmm. I tried it with Fubar2Broker, which is arguably still a bit unstable, and the Broker_SysMon addons on files.wowace.com. I wasn't able to see any of it with Quickie :) |
| 18:10.01 | Tekkub | I doubt f2b sets anything as launchers |
| 18:10.34 | Hjalte | Tekkub: So Quickie can only use ldb addons that are compatible with it? |
| 18:11.33 | Tekkub | did you not read the docs? :P |
| 18:11.34 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 18:12.03 | Hjalte | Well, maybe not all of them :( |
| 18:12.58 | Dashkal | ooo, more docs |
| 18:13.00 | Dashkal | danke, Tekkub |
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| 18:13.32 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Ah. So only QuickLauncher modules work for Quickie. I get it :) |
| 18:13.54 | Funkeh` | Tekkub, you big whore |
| 18:13.59 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78095 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: slightly randomize block creation |
| 18:14.02 | Tekkub | :P |
| 18:16.45 | CIA-44 | 03shefki * r78096 10PitBull/Banzai/Banzai.lua: PitBull_Banzai: Don't show aggro coloring on enemy units that are targeted by friendly units (e.g. mobs being targeted by the raid). |
| 18:18.44 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r78097 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 18:18.44 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 18:18.44 | CIA-44 | - added next TCG set |
| 18:18.50 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r78098 10Chinchilla/locale/ (enUS.lua koKR.lua): |
| 18:18.50 | CIA-44 | Chinchilla: |
| 18:18.50 | CIA-44 | - add missing locale |
| 18:18.50 | CIA-44 | - koKR Update |
| 18:19.01 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r78099 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.en.lua: |
| 18:19.01 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:19.01 | CIA-44 | - added next TCG set |
| 18:19.23 | AckisWork | is the next tcg out already? |
| 18:20.08 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78100 10Broker_Tracking/Broker_Tracking.lua: Broker_Tracking: Removed some comments |
| 18:21.03 | NeoTron_ | Tekkub: I like the idea of making this general :) |
| 18:21.36 | Tekkub | huh? |
| 18:25.10 | NeoTron_ | LDB |
| 18:25.58 | Tekkub | what do you mean? |
| 18:25.59 | Fisker- | Tekkub |
| 18:26.04 | Fisker- | you owe me 1 billion gold |
| 18:26.08 | NeoTron_ | what I said |
| 18:26.13 | NeoTron_ | I like the concept of LDB |
| 18:26.28 | Tekkub | oh, I thought you were saying youwanted it to be more general |
| 18:26.48 | Tekkub | Fisker-, meh, I blew all my gold on my bear mount |
| 18:27.01 | Fisker- | damn you |
| 18:27.12 | Fisker- | you're going to pay |
| 18:27.26 | selckin | you payed for one?! |
| 18:27.47 | Tekkub | yes, I paid for one |
| 18:27.54 | Tekkub | and I'd gladly do it again |
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| 18:28.06 | Kuosi | its cool mount |
| 18:28.24 | Kuosi | dunno if I would pay for one tho |
| 18:28.46 | Tekkub | points at the "cub" in his name |
| 18:28.47 | durcyn | most guilds that sell them ask between 5 and 10, if you've been doing dailies even sporadically you can afford that |
| 18:28.57 | durcyn | go go inflation in an artificial economy |
| 18:29.09 | Kuosi | 5k on our server |
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| 18:29.31 | NeoTron_ | our cheap |
| 18:29.32 | Kuosi | im blessed with good rolls so i got bear on 3 chars :O |
| 18:29.42 | Kuosi | done one timed on my alt war ever |
| 18:30.45 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78101 10Fortress/Core.lua: Fortress: Fixed string width |
| 18:31.04 | NeoTron_ | timed runs are easy when you know how to do it |
| 18:31.55 | selckin | its a unique reward for some semi effort, you should be able to make it with your friends/guild |
| 18:32.02 | selckin | i'm against those things being sold |
| 18:32.27 | Josh_Borke | ag`_: are you still using legoblocks for the blocks? |
| 18:32.34 | ag`_ | Josh_Borke, yeah |
| 18:32.39 | ag`_ | good/bad? :P |
| 18:32.52 | Fisker- | i'm telling you Tekkub |
| 18:32.56 | Fisker- | 1 billion gold by tomorrow |
| 18:33.45 | Josh_Borke | ag`_: meh, if they work :-D |
| 18:33.54 | ag`_ | Josh_Borke, they do :D! |
| 18:33.57 | Tekkub | selckin, I put in quite a bit of effort to make the money. I don't raid. I have a fucking bear fetish. I don't see how it's any less "fair" :P |
| 18:34.13 | Josh_Borke | notice how he says fucking bear fetish |
| 18:35.09 | Tekkub | if I knew there was a bear mount obtainable without raiding in Wrath, I'd go for that |
| 18:35.22 | Tekkub | but I will *NOT* pay real money to get the loot card bear |
| 18:35.56 | sb | is it possible to tank twins with nether protection? |
| 18:36.44 | durcyn | sb: if you're immune to the fire patch crap, she'll drop it on secondary threat |
| 18:36.51 | durcyn | sb: haven't tried it with FreeMe though |
| 18:37.30 | AckisWork | durcyn: there would be a luck factor w/ freeme |
| 18:37.45 | durcyn | depending on when the next cast starts, yes |
| 18:38.01 | durcyn | on mobs that chain cast, it's inadvisable to have the talent |
| 18:38.19 | AckisWork | I still prefer a warrior tanking it |
| 18:38.42 | Stanzilla | the fire twin? |
| 18:38.49 | AckisWork | yes |
| 18:38.52 | Stanzilla | O.o |
| 18:38.55 | Stanzilla | explain :P |
| 18:39.00 | AckisWork | tauren hit box |
| 18:39.20 | Stanzilla | meh shitty tauren :< |
| 18:39.37 | AckisWork | ironically we have a warrior tank the fire twin, and a lock tank KJ |
| 18:40.23 | NeoTron_ | lock tank for KJ? why? |
| 18:40.46 | NeoTron_ | fully raid buffed now I'd have about 21k health I think on my lock |
| 18:40.47 | AckisWork | more threat, more room for melee around him |
| 18:41.02 | AckisWork | he hits like a pansy |
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| 18:42.26 | MoonWolf | how does one bind some keys too bartender4 ? |
| 18:42.48 | Josh_Borke | try /kb |
| 18:42.56 | NeoTron_ | maybe I'll do that then |
| 18:43.01 | NeoTron_ | I sure have the health :P |
| 18:43.15 | NeoTron_ | does he melee or just cast spells? |
| 18:43.41 | MoonWolf | Josh_Borke, i have never seen that, who or what added that, and when ? |
| 18:44.02 | Josh_Borke | MoonWolf: i dunno the answer to either question, but i suspect it was the author that added it |
| 18:44.09 | Josh_Borke | ;-P |
| 18:44.22 | AckisWork | just casts spells and does a knockback to someone in melee range w/ highest threat |
| 18:45.14 | MoonWolf | ty anyway |
| 18:45.38 | Josh_Borke | MoonWolf: i believe it was started by someone else |
| 18:46.04 | Silviu- | sb , durcyn impossible :p tryed it with Freeme too :) |
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| 19:05.55 | Fisker- | Tekkub |
| 19:05.57 | Fisker- | my money |
| 19:06.40 | Evandiann | is there an addon (aced or non-aced) that lets u search & filter items in the guild bank? |
| 19:07.43 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r2f94ec5 10/: Fix LDB, we don't like submodules! |
| 19:08.36 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: wtb ingame option to move quickie |
| 19:08.53 | sb | Silviu-: but works with illidan? |
| 19:08.57 | Tekkub | Quickie's done, I have no further plans for it |
| 19:09.15 | Stanzilla | :< |
| 19:09.17 | Evandiann | for example, lets say u r a lvl 45 mage. instead of mousing over every piece of armor, u can just search for cloth items lvls 40-45 |
| 19:09.18 | Tekkub | it's mostly proof of concept so people who WANT quicklaunchers have some starting point |
| 19:09.49 | durcyn | sb: doubtful |
| 19:10.11 | Silviu- | sb did not try Illidan tho only Twins |
| 19:10.12 | sb | so freeme is useless for netherprotection? :P |
| 19:10.23 | Silviu- | Something like that i think ;p |
| 19:10.38 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r78102 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): AtlasLoot: German update |
| 19:11.39 | Stanzilla | the quicklaunch for StealYourCarbon is kinda useless |
| 19:12.08 | Stanzilla | the addon only loads if you open a vendor window and if you already opened one you can click the "SYC" button^^ |
| 19:12.22 | Stanzilla | (with AddonLoader ofc) |
| 19:12.32 | Evandiann | anyone know if there is such an addon? |
| 19:12.38 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r78103 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: small change for rare mounts page |
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| 20:18.46 | CIA-44 | 03trasher * r78104 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 20:18.46 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:18.46 | CIA-44 | - frFR update |
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| 20:39.51 | aestil | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/90975 |
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| 20:40.54 | Wraithan | Tornhoof: you around? |
| 20:41.05 | Wraithan | ~seen Tornhoof |
| 20:41.14 | purl | tornhoof is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 5d 1h 23m 22s, last said: 'heh'. |
| 20:41.14 | Wraithan | !seen |
| 20:41.15 | Wraithan | botzor? |
| 20:41.28 | Wraithan | ah |
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| 20:53.36 | Kaelten | ~seen Kaelten |
| 20:53.38 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowprogramming (6h 19m 1s) #norganna (6h 19m 1s) #wowuidev (6h 19m 1s) #wowace (6h 19m 1s) #curseforge (6h 19m 1s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen Kaelten'. |
| 20:54.14 | NeoTron_ | Man it's rough being a GM of a high end raiding guild |
| 20:54.32 | Funkeh` | riading is for nubs |
| 20:54.36 | Funkeh` | raiding even |
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| 20:54.45 | NeoTron_ | speling is for dwebs |
| 20:54.49 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 20:55.19 | Ellipsis | raids Funkeh`s pants |
| 20:55.22 | NeoTron_ | I think the one big surprise in being a GM is the amount of HR work tht is involved |
| 20:55.25 | Kaelten | on a random note, if you're using ati graphics cards and suddenly OneBag's slots start rendering dead ass wrong. Delete BagSlot.blp, copy BagSlot2.tga and name the copy BagSlot.tga. Then restart wow and rejoice. |
| 20:55.56 | Funkeh` | guess I should have pointed out the good type of raiding |
| 20:55.57 | Ellipsis | always the ati fail, gg blizz |
| 20:56.02 | NeoTron_ | in other news Hans Reiser has led the police to the body of his ex-wife |
| 20:56.53 | sb | mhh is it possible that conflag is only on healers / shadow twin tank? :o |
| 20:57.09 | NeoTron_ | conflag is threat based |
| 20:57.18 | NeoTron_ | so threat 2-6 or so on the shadow twin gets conflag |
| 20:57.32 | vithos | conflag won't be healers |
| 20:57.40 | NeoTron_ | it will be healers if they are high on threat |
| 20:57.41 | vithos | well wait, that depends on the order you're killing them in |
| 20:57.48 | NeoTron_ | and is almsot exclusively healers if you kill the fire twin first |
| 20:58.00 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Kaelten |
| 20:58.00 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Kaelten in half |
| 20:58.05 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: hola kael :-D |
| 20:58.09 | selckin | which is better, since healers know howto pay attention |
| 20:58.10 | NeoTron_ | we sometimes get healer conflag right after the pull |
| 20:58.24 | Kaelten | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 20:58.24 | purl | changes Josh_Borke's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 20:58.26 | vithos | if you kill the shadow twin first, healers don't need pvp trinkets because they won't get conflag |
| 20:58.37 | selckin | pvp trinket is nice for shadowfury stun tho |
| 20:58.39 | NeoTron_ | I think reverse order is easier for phase 2 (by a lot) and harder in phase 1 |
| 20:58.41 | NeoTron_ | but I like it |
| 20:58.47 | selckin | saved our tank quite a few times with it |
| 20:58.57 | NeoTron_ | vithos: again though, that's not 100% sure. we've had healers get it |
| 20:58.59 | Kaelten | Josh_Borke: ha, you may have sliced me in half, but at least my demise was quick. Yours will continue for a long time! |
| 20:59.10 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 20:59.19 | Josh_Borke | unless someone puts me out of my misery quickly ;-P |
| 20:59.35 | Ellipsis | but why would we do that when it's so fun to torture you? |
| 20:59.43 | selckin | i've never seen it on a healer with shadow first :( |
| 20:59.54 | Josh_Borke | like women, it's just another one of those mysteries in the world |
| 21:00.15 | vithos | i've never seen a conflag cast so soon that there's not 7 or whatever the number is dps on the threatlist above healers |
| 21:00.21 | vithos | but i guess it's possible |
| 21:00.37 | NeoTron_ | selckin: it's only early on but if a healer gets a few big heals in they can be above dps on threat |
| 21:00.38 | aestil | when anyone was first learning muru did you take a few extra healers to help learn the movment and target switching parts of the fight? |
| 21:00.46 | NeoTron_ | later in the fight though, it never really happens |
| 21:00.59 | NeoTron_ | aestil: more than 10-11 healerw? |
| 21:01.02 | NeoTron_ | how many healers do you have? :P |
| 21:01.15 | vithos | aestil: you can't really have a chance at keeping up with more than 6 healers |
| 21:01.17 | selckin | aestil: stuff doesn't hit that hard, and when they do, your tank is dead anyway if not handeled properly |
| 21:01.26 | NeoTron_ | oh wait |
| 21:01.27 | NeoTron_ | muru |
| 21:01.30 | NeoTron_ | we tried to go with 8 healers |
| 21:01.39 | NeoTron_ | but that == insufficient DPS |
| 21:01.47 | NeoTron_ | you have to have a lot of DPS and DPs has to be fully buffed |
| 21:01.58 | NeoTron_ | can't half-ass the fight or you'll run behind and fast |
| 21:02.05 | vithos | yep. stacking healers will not help you in any way |
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| 21:02.23 | NeoTron_ | even with 6 healers DPS is still an issue |
| 21:02.25 | selckin | not like 4x flurry |
| 21:02.28 | selckin | big heals damnit! |
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| 21:02.35 | vithos | sigh, i'm so tired of that fight :P |
| 21:02.48 | NeoTron_ | we plan to try to AoE tank it with 2 pallies + 1 warrior (+ maybe 1 feral druid) |
| 21:02.48 | selckin | it killed my guild |
| 21:03.49 | NeoTron_ | our guild won't die from it. I mean 1 month on kael'thas didn't. 1 month on vashj, followed by a kill and then two weeks without a kill didn't. |
| 21:03.59 | NeoTron_ | not being able to repeat kill archimonde for a few weeks also didn't kill us |
| 21:04.08 | NeoTron_ | but I expect some people to leave |
| 21:04.11 | NeoTron_ | but that always happens |
| 21:04.16 | selckin | we wiped a 6 days straight on archi lol |
| 21:04.17 | vithos | we're at the 1.5 month mark i think |
| 21:04.37 | aestil | vithos: its not a plan to k ill the first week anyways, its more about having the exttra healing there to lengthen wipes so that people have more time to learn. |
| 21:04.53 | selckin | yeah, like 60% ppl are new by now |
| 21:04.59 | vithos | aestil: yeah, but learning it doesn't work the way you think |
| 21:05.16 | vithos | it's all about learning to keep up with the spawn timers |
| 21:05.16 | selckin | aestil: it won't help at all for the fight, you either kill em in time, or you wipe |
| 21:05.27 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78107 10Fortress/Options.lua: |
| 21:05.27 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 21:05.27 | CIA-44 | - error fix |
| 21:05.44 | vithos | if you lose 1 dps, it's a wipe, with 6 healers |
| 21:05.51 | aestil | so, vithos the ssc/tk nethers are 15 badges |
| 21:06.17 | selckin | its really unforgiving |
| 21:06.19 | aestil | should i spend the 30 badges to get the nethers for the belt that its really good to have crafted? |
| 21:06.50 | selckin | on my realm is better to sell gems and buy nethers |
| 21:06.56 | selckin | no logic but reality |
| 21:06.56 | vithos | aestil: well, i'd think about buying the nethers instead of spending your own badges |
| 21:07.48 | aestil | how do you do the armory bot? |
| 21:08.29 | aestil | http://armorylite.com/us/Darkspear/fdas |
| 21:08.57 | Ellipsis | !c us darkspear fdas |
| 21:09.02 | selckin | sounds like you can use badges |
| 21:09.05 | Ellipsis | eh, I tried |
| 21:09.06 | selckin | buy the nethers |
| 21:09.22 | selckin | !ce us darkspear fdas |
| 21:09.33 | Ellipsis | oh, thraebot isn't even here |
| 21:10.07 | selckin | aestil: no reason not to save the badges for items, and buy the nether |
| 21:10.10 | vithos | aestil: it all depends on what kind of access to raid loot you have, and what kind of time you have, and what kind of gold you have |
| 21:10.34 | selckin | gold is easier/faster to get then badges no mather what |
| 21:10.37 | vithos | the ZA belt is pretty close, and so is the S4 honor belt |
| 21:10.44 | Matrix110 | On our realm Nether= 50g Vortex= 150g Gems: 200-300g(they even differ on which color) |
| 21:10.53 | Matrix110 | The pricing makes no sense at all :D |
| 21:11.15 | vithos | actually i just noticed there's a new badge belt |
| 21:11.26 | vithos | that's even better if you can use the hit |
| 21:13.36 | aestil | how many badges? |
| 21:13.42 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78108 10Broker_Clock/Broker_Clock.lua: Broker_Clock: Hide seconds, might add an option at some point |
| 21:14.25 | vithos | aestil: 75 |
| 21:14.29 | aestil | what is this 'broker' thing. i don't understand it? |
| 21:14.45 | Tekkub | FuBar plugins without the Fu |
| 21:15.12 | aestil | why is that good? |
| 21:15.22 | Tekkub | because not everyone wants to use FuBar |
| 21:15.44 | Swtz | hmm |
| 21:15.53 | Tekkub | why should such a simple design (icon, text, tooltip) be restricted to one specific display addon? |
| 21:16.07 | Swtz | Guys, I made a post about bigwigs on the forums, and Rabbit replied: " |
| 21:16.08 | Swtz | You need to make it a Extra module that just listens for BigWigs_Message events from the Brutallus module. |
| 21:16.14 | Swtz | There are tons of examples of this on the SVN already. |
| 21:16.25 | Swtz | I am trying to find the examples on the SVN and I am unable to |
| 21:16.33 | Funkeh` | bigwigs_* |
| 21:16.36 | Funkeh` | go nuts |
| 21:17.03 | sb | yay - that modelviewer thingie from wowhead is nice :) |
| 21:17.21 | Swtz | branches / tags or trunk? |
| 21:17.37 | Ellipsis | heh, you're new here aren't you |
| 21:17.40 | Swtz | guess I found it, nvm :) |
| 21:17.42 | sb | (eqdkp plus guys did some php classes for accessng armory + modelviewer) |
| 21:18.23 | aestil | loot i'll probably have access to pretty soon is hyjal/bt |
| 21:18.27 | aestil | as far as going on runs. |
| 21:19.21 | selckin | who did you bribe for that :p |
| 21:19.49 | aestil | huh? |
| 21:21.28 | NeoTron_ | so is eqdkp plus a fork of eqdkp/ |
| 21:21.40 | selckin | even kara would give you upgrades? and going to bt/hyjal |
| 21:21.48 | nevcairiel | its a addon to eqdkp, kinda |
| 21:21.58 | NeoTron_ | I have a hacked version of eqdkp |
| 21:22.04 | NeoTron_ | hard to patch or "add on" to it :P |
| 21:22.21 | nevcairiel | the latest versions of plus took a direction i dont like personally, though |
| 21:22.28 | nevcairiel | i run a rather old hacked version now |
| 21:22.29 | aestil | in this guild since our first gruul kill and am officer. |
| 21:22.47 | aestil | rolling new character and its to everyone's benifit that it be able to raid with progression raid. |
| 21:23.04 | aestil | going to kara this weekend though |
| 21:23.12 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * r17be813 10/: Add link to Fortress thread |
| 21:23.14 | aestil | hoping very much for legacy and prince bow. |
| 21:23.24 | selckin | badge bow best in game? |
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| 21:23.43 | vithos | legendary > twins bow > badge bow, for 3:2 |
| 21:23.44 | selckin | well presunwell :\ |
| 21:24.15 | vithos | i still use the illidan bow though |
| 21:24.15 | aestil | yeah. |
| 21:24.20 | aestil | i will be going for badge bow |
| 21:24.22 | vithos | because i don't use 3:2 yet |
| 21:24.30 | aestil | but from what i have, the prince bow is a HUGE upgrade |
| 21:24.33 | AckisWork | how good is the archimonde bow? |
| 21:25.05 | vithos | it's okay |
| 21:25.22 | vithos | just not for 3:2 |
| 21:25.49 | selckin | hunter dps is a real art ! |
| 21:25.52 | selckin | most of em fail |
| 21:26.00 | AckisWork | hunter dps is one button? |
| 21:26.25 | vithos | only because our dps cycles are too difficult to be performed by mere humans! |
| 21:27.08 | vithos | well that's not really true |
| 21:27.17 | vithos | just requires far too much attention to do manually imo |
| 21:27.32 | profalbert | by manually you mean w/o macro? |
| 21:27.37 | vithos | yeah |
| 21:27.56 | selckin | have to adjust more depending on gear level aswel don't you? |
| 21:28.02 | selckin | most clases can just do the same all the time |
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| 21:28.38 | vithos | that's the thing, hunter theorycraft is the most complex fucking thing in the game probably |
| 21:29.02 | selckin | took our ages to start doing 2.6k+ on brut, they fail |
| 21:29.29 | aestil | hunter pets on muru die alot from the things in the ground? |
| 21:29.31 | Ellipsis | hunters can play WoW without even running the game, all their difficulty is in planning their macros :P |
| 21:29.38 | vithos | aestil: never |
| 21:29.45 | vithos | well i only know about p1 |
| 21:30.01 | vithos | maybe in p2 |
| 21:30.06 | selckin | hunter pets can tank in phase 1 |
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| 21:30.10 | selckin | its a fun strategy |
| 21:30.15 | vithos | lol what? |
| 21:30.21 | selckin | the mage |
| 21:30.34 | vithos | i tank the mage, but how could my pet? |
| 21:30.38 | selckin | can get it to 210 resistance with spec |
| 21:30.42 | selckin | or something |
| 21:30.45 | selckin | its kinda risky, but fun |
| 21:30.56 | vithos | oh so you just kill it last instead of first? |
| 21:31.05 | vithos | that's...interesting |
| 21:31.07 | selckin | yeah, keep spellstealig it |
| 21:32.11 | selckin | took like an hour to get our healers to get working pet frames |
| 21:32.12 | selckin | :p |
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| 21:36.47 | aestil | yeah, i've heard people leave mage up til last so that mages can spellstea l and dps mu'ru really well. |
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| 21:48.12 | NeoTron_ | I wonder... |
| 21:48.40 | NeoTron_ | can a warlock tank the shadow peeps? |
| 21:48.40 | NeoTron_ | the void spawns |
| 21:48.40 | NeoTron_ | I wonder how much of the required AoE dmg a single warlock in full SR would produce |
| 21:48.42 | NeoTron_ | probably quite a bit less |
| 21:50.31 | NeoTron_ | What kind of damage do the mages do? |
| 21:51.38 | durcyn | NeoTron_: one of ours tops the charts in p1 even with seed spam going |
| 21:52.04 | durcyn | the spellstolen buff is insanely great |
| 21:52.12 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: its fire dmg |
| 21:52.45 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=46102 |
| 21:52.47 | nevcairiel | that thing? |
| 21:52.49 | nevcairiel | really nice :) |
| 21:53.51 | NeoTron_ | durcyn: I meant the mage npc's :P |
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| 21:54.31 | NeoTron_ | so a pet with full FR can tank one |
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| 21:54.55 | NeoTron_ | we're currently leaning towards a holy pally in SR gear tanking the spawns |
| 21:55.02 | NeoTron_ | healing himself for extra aggro |
| 21:55.59 | durcyn | NeoTron_: oh. just have an enh shaman on each door shock it. |
| 21:56.42 | durcyn | NeoTron_: and you don't really need SR on the void spawn paladin tank, tbh |
| 21:56.47 | NeoTron_ | this fight is funny. so many ways to do it |
| 21:56.57 | NeoTron_ | they seem to hit for about 1500 dmg per AoE |
| 21:57.13 | NivFreak | how many doors are there? |
| 21:57.18 | durcyn | nah, the volley is junk |
| 21:57.20 | NivFreak | and wait, who has more than one enh shaman? ;) |
| 21:57.20 | durcyn | two, niv |
| 21:57.31 | durcyn | we carry two for muru, so. |
| 21:58.22 | NivFreak | I can't even find one that doesn't suck or flake =( |
| 21:58.22 | NeoTron_ | we have two in the guild |
| 21:58.22 | NivFreak | I'm on #4 |
| 21:58.22 | NeoTron_ | but one is supposed to go resto |
| 21:58.35 | NeoTron_ | durcyn: so you think a holy pally, in normal holy pally gear, can tank the spawns ? |
| 21:58.40 | NeoTron_ | healing himself in the process |
| 21:58.48 | AckisWork | on muru? |
| 21:58.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o tardmrr|sleep] by ChanServ |
| 21:58.50 | durcyn | we use a holy paladin in a mix if prot/holy gear |
| 21:58.56 | durcyn | of* |
| 21:59.05 | Wraithan | Enhancement shamans are actually wanted on raids now? |
| 21:59.17 | Wraithan | we were shunned back before outlands |
| 21:59.41 | Diao | every guild wants 1 |
| 21:59.41 | NeoTron_ | Wraithan: that's partially because horde didn't know what they had but primarily because shamans got buffed a lot in the expansion |
| 21:59.44 | Diao | to buff teh rogues |
| 21:59.49 | Diao | and warriors |
| 21:59.51 | Diao | :P |
| 21:59.57 | Wraithan | Yeah |
| 22:00.00 | Wraithan | That buff is pretty nice |
| 22:00.06 | NeoTron_ | it seems until Alliance got shamans, shamans were severely undervalued regardless of spec |
| 22:00.16 | Diao | no |
| 22:00.21 | NivFreak | I always loved my resto shaman |
| 22:00.26 | Diao | it's more like.. resto was terrible until they buffed chainheal |
| 22:00.26 | NivFreak | <3 |
| 22:00.32 | NeoTron_ | all I heard was complaints about how much totems sucked |
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| 22:00.36 | Diao | ele had no good buffs |
| 22:00.43 | Diao | until totem of wrath and wrath of air |
| 22:00.46 | Wraithan | My guild didn't presure me, but didn't exactly love having me enhancement, and wanted me resto |
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| 22:00.53 | Diao | and enh was only good for wf |
| 22:00.59 | Diao | and since resto sham could provide wf |
| 22:01.02 | Diao | they had no need for enh |
| 22:01.05 | Wraithan | yeah |
| 22:01.09 | Diao | but in expansion they got unleashed rage |
| 22:01.14 | Diao | which makes them a better buffer |
| 22:01.34 | Diao | basically, pre-bc shaman were terrible overall |
| 22:01.42 | Diao | and got a bunch of nice improvements that made them wanted |
| 22:01.42 | durcyn | enh also allows goa twisting |
| 22:01.43 | Wraithan | they were fun to solo |
| 22:01.47 | durcyn | which is huge |
| 22:01.58 | durcyn | since you don't have to use that time/mana to heal instead |
| 22:02.06 | Diao | yeah, but there was no twisting pre-bc since you couldn't sustain the mana |
| 22:02.09 | Wraithan | I loved solo as my enh shaman |
| 22:02.17 | Wraithan | shamanistic rage helps so much for mana |
| 22:02.34 | Wraithan | + 200atk power trinket and unleashed rage |
| 22:02.37 | Diao | yep |
| 22:02.56 | Wraithan | with my garbage gear at level 68, I get 400 mana back a hit |
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| 22:03.20 | Wraithan | friends still want me going resto/elemental for pvp |
| 22:04.06 | Diao | enh is good in pvp |
| 22:04.08 | Diao | with the right setup |
| 22:04.38 | Wraithan | I guess my outlook is a little different than most, I look at arenas as something fun to do |
| 22:04.44 | Wraithan | along with getting some nice gear from |
| 22:05.19 | Wraithan | once I hit 70 my 3v3 team will be a resto shaman, a enh shaman and a lock |
| 22:05.20 | Wraithan | lol |
| 22:05.25 | Diao | lol |
| 22:07.50 | Wraithan | or maybe ele shaman enh shaman and holy priest |
| 22:07.51 | Wraithan | lol |
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| 22:35.25 | sacarasc | Xinhuan: try ackisword |
| 22:35.28 | sacarasc | work |
| 22:35.36 | sacarasc | stupid keyboard moving keys around |
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| 22:35.39 | purl | ackiswork <i=8ee557fb@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 13m 2s ago, saying: 'if they're too low they're grey?'. |
| 22:35.44 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 22:35.51 | Xinhuan | i.e not online |
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| 22:42.36 | NeoTron_ | M'uru is truly an interesting fight to ponder |
| 22:42.51 | CIA-44 | 03toadkiller * r78109 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/Locale-ruRU.lua: |
| 22:42.51 | CIA-44 | LibKeyBound-1.0: |
| 22:42.51 | CIA-44 | -- fix typo |
| 22:42.59 | NeoTron_ | since theer are so many extremely different strategies you can take |
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| 22:51.03 | aestil | well, if we can duplicate an etwins kill next week, we will get our first look at muru |
| 22:51.12 | aestil | but i don't htink you can take second etwins kill for granted. |
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| 22:56.32 | NeoTron_ | actually |
| 22:56.38 | NeoTron_ | twins I found is pretty repeatable |
| 22:56.57 | Diao | is it true that everyone should be getting lw for muru |
| 22:57.00 | Diao | or at least all the dps |
| 22:58.42 | aestil | man, leveling engineering is unreal. |
| 22:58.59 | aestil | i just farmed 100 fel iron ore, and made 17 fel iron casings [for the next step] |
| 22:59.11 | aestil | but its like a drop in the bucket of what i need overall. |
| 22:59.21 | Nechckn | I actually like it aestil- sve for those last few levels =) |
| 22:59.32 | Nechckn | s/sve for/except for |
| 23:00.00 | aestil | last few levels are all that matters. |
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| 23:00.07 | Nechckn | heheeh true |
| 23:00.28 | Stanzilla | [Eumenida-Perenolde] says: "If you say 'plz' because it's shorter than 'please', I'll say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'" |
| 23:00.31 | Stanzilla | hah! nice! |
| 23:00.46 | Nechckn | that is great |
| 23:01.07 | NeoTron_ | Diao: I doubt everyone needs it. There's no way in hell I'll level LW just for m'uru |
| 23:04.40 | Diao | ah |
| 23:04.57 | Diao | i was reading a guide somewhere and they said everyone should pick up lw |
| 23:05.06 | NeoTron_ | they said the same for brutallus |
| 23:05.18 | NeoTron_ | 4xLW per group obviously helps |
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| 23:05.24 | NeoTron_ | I'm glad they are nerfing it though |
| 23:06.05 | selckin | its not _needed_ |
| 23:06.12 | selckin | but the drums are insanely good |
| 23:06.19 | selckin | its would be quite stupid not to get them |
| 23:06.24 | Diao | wait |
| 23:06.27 | Diao | they're nerfing muru? |
| 23:06.34 | selckin | nerfing drums |
| 23:06.39 | Diao | oh |
| 23:06.39 | Tekkub | no, they're nerfing footballs |
| 23:06.43 | Diao | i thought they weren't nerfing it until wotlk |
| 23:06.48 | profalbert | so when is this drum-nerf coming? |
| 23:06.51 | selckin | Diao: thats probably true yes |
| 23:07.12 | selckin | the soonest i except it the big pre-wotlk patch |
| 23:07.22 | selckin | *expect it is |
| 23:07.39 | NeoTron_ | I'd expect it to be in wotlk |
| 23:07.59 | Nechckn | j/w Why the nerf? |
| 23:08.05 | selckin | i expect a big patch introducing all the items & changes etc like with bruning crusade |
| 23:08.11 | selckin | and the new talent trees |
| 23:08.12 | Diao | same reason they nerfed elixir stacking in bc |
| 23:08.19 | Nechckn | gotcha |
| 23:08.19 | Diao | because they don't want people chaining stuff |
| 23:08.23 | Nechckn | that makes sense |
| 23:08.33 | Diao | then they can balance encounters around not having it |
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| 23:08.39 | Diao | rather than assuming everyone has to get x profession |
| 23:08.57 | Nechckn | right... I wasn't sure what they were doing is the big thing =) |
| 23:09.11 | selckin | they are adding a debuff basicly |
| 23:09.22 | selckin | so you can't get chained effect |
| 23:09.33 | selckin | altho this is all speculation, notting is definitief |
| 23:09.35 | profalbert | tinitus - can't get drummed for 2 minutes |
| 23:09.52 | selckin | i expect it getting added for herosim aswel |
| 23:11.13 | Nechckn | I like when you can have different professions and not *need* one or another |
| 23:11.46 | selckin | every serious raider has LW |
| 23:11.58 | sacarasc | LW? |
| 23:12.16 | profalbert | leatherworking |
| 23:12.41 | sacarasc | why? for drums or something? |
| 23:12.47 | profalbert | yep |
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| 23:14.09 | VonhintenHOME` | \channel |
| 23:14.45 | NeoTron_ | selckin: it hasn't been NEEDED so far |
| 23:15.00 | selckin | NeoTron_: its a game of min/maxing |
| 23:15.16 | NeoTron_ | we're progressing sufficiently, especially consider we had some staffing issues |
| 23:15.17 | selckin | NeoTron_: you don't NEED most gear upgrade you get following that argument |
| 23:15.23 | NeoTron_ | min maxing aside, it's not required |
| 23:15.32 | NeoTron_ | actually gear upgrades you do need in SWP |
| 23:16.00 | selckin | then drums help. |
| 23:16.04 | NeoTron_ | it does yes |
| 23:16.07 | NeoTron_ | but it's not required |
| 23:16.13 | NeoTron_ | not saying it's not helpful |
| 23:16.22 | selckin | it helps as much as gear upgrades do |
| 23:16.24 | NeoTron_ | but dropping professions for it, at least useful non-gathering ones, is rather silly |
| 23:16.36 | selckin | if i can socket most haste on paladin and 100 mp5 from drums, it will help the tank alive |
| 23:17.02 | selckin | NeoTron_: gold is worthless, it costs what 1.5k to roll any profession? |
| 23:17.11 | selckin | everyone i know is sitting on 10k+ |
| 23:17.21 | selckin | gbanks on 100-200 k |
| 23:17.30 | selckin | use it to promote easier progression. |
| 23:17.55 | selckin | its like not enchanting your gear |
| 23:17.58 | selckin | its not NEEDED |
| 23:18.11 | selckin | but you're not getting in my raid |
| 23:18.23 | NeoTron_ | when did you kill Kil'jaeden? |
| 23:18.37 | VonhintenHOME` | Enchanting your gear is like a couple pieces of gear worth of bonuses missing |
| 23:18.47 | selckin | 4 weeks ago or so |
| 23:18.48 | VonhintenHOME` | If everyone in your raid did that, it WOULD be needed |
| 23:19.00 | Diao | ring enchants! |
| 23:19.21 | NeoTron_ | I think it's fine for top tier guilds to do that. I don't think my leevl guild should be too concerned. people are naturally falling towards learning it though |
| 23:19.41 | selckin | it says alot about a person if they do out of free will |
| 23:19.46 | selckin | they are keepers |
| 23:19.48 | Diao | so i was thinking about the mechanics of arcane shot |
| 23:19.54 | Diao | how is that kind of ability still not nerfed :( |
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| 23:20.09 | NeoTron_ | and it says nothing of a person if they don't |
| 23:20.13 | selckin | pvp will never be balaced, give it up |
| 23:20.27 | Diao | it's got all the benefits of all both magic and physical effects and yet none of the downsides |
| 23:20.32 | NeoTron_ | in wotlk it'll be useless right there |
| 23:20.39 | NeoTron_ | so doing it now is pretty pointless |
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| 23:21.23 | Diao | bypasses bop (magic), can't be spell reflected (physical), gains from physical stats (physical), ignores armor (magical) |
| 23:21.23 | Diao | makes no sense! |
| 23:21.27 | Diao | should be one or the other imo |
| 23:21.50 | profalbert | what would be a good addon for warriors to remind themselves keeping demo-shout up? |
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| 23:21.52 | VonhintenHOME` | don't forget, removes buffs (doesn't it?) |
| 23:21.57 | Diao | yeah it does |
| 23:22.13 | Diao | and it's instant (can be casted while running) |
| 23:22.32 | Diao | there's addons to remind you to debuff? |
| 23:22.38 | Diao | i just use quartz with debuff timers on my target |
| 23:22.44 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, regardless, I'd nerf resto druids before anything else |
| 23:22.46 | Diao | so when i see it running down i just refresh it |
| 23:23.43 | profalbert | It's not for me... I need to keep CoW up, cause the warriors keep forgetting to shout |
| 23:23.59 | Diao | tell them to l2p |
| 23:24.09 | Diao | it's not hard to refresh a shout every 30 sec |
| 23:24.18 | [dRaCo] | msbt can show a message if debuffs fade |
| 23:24.43 | profalbert | I know that. But I can't expect them to define custom triggers |
| 23:24.44 | [dRaCo] | powerauras or something like ot |
| 23:24.55 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't think you'll need a custom trigger for that |
| 23:24.59 | VonhintenHOME` | it's probably built in |
| 23:25.15 | Diao | my msbt doesn't have it |
| 23:25.19 | Diao | by default |
| 23:25.19 | [dRaCo] | it doesnt |
| 23:25.31 | [dRaCo] | it's pretty easy to do, though |
| 23:25.31 | VonhintenHOME` | nice |
| 23:25.49 | Diao | yeah |
| 23:26.09 | VonhintenHOME` | Don't CoW, just yell at them when it's not up |
| 23:26.16 | VonhintenHOME` | make them get used to it |
| 23:26.20 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78110 10StatBlocks_Folks/StatBlocks_Folks.lua: StatBlocks_Folks: hopefully actually fix the bug |
| 23:26.20 | Diao | however, if someone doesn't have the intelligence to keep a shout up every 30 sec, i doubt they have the intelligence to create a simple trigger >.> |
| 23:26.47 | VonhintenHOME` | Only way they'll do it, is if they get used to it, make it part of their routine |
| 23:26.50 | Diao | yeah, don't baby other guildies by doing stuff for them |
| 23:27.01 | Diao | or they'll never learn |
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| 23:29.43 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78111 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: fix random blank blocks |
| 23:30.52 | profalbert | if it's not me, some other lock will do it... |
| 23:31.59 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78112 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: and add some safety |
| 23:32.00 | selckin | you always have 4 locks then? |
| 23:32.07 | profalbert | sometimes |
| 23:32.10 | selckin | still quite a huge dps loss |
| 23:32.21 | Mytos | locks for what? |
| 23:33.03 | profalbert | CoW |
| 23:33.14 | Wraithan | I use addons to remind me to cast my water shield because it is hard for me to remember lol |
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| 23:33.49 | profalbert | I use addons to remind me of CoT on council |
| 23:34.59 | selckin | yeah, either remember, or put the buff/Debuff somewhere in clear sight, or use an addon that yells at you |
| 23:35.03 | selckin | just get it done |
| 23:36.03 | profalbert | so back to the question, is there an addon that provides a "simple" way of reminding? maybe spellreminder? |
| 23:36.25 | NeoTron_ | Honestly I kind of want such addons myself |
| 23:36.45 | NeoTron_ | I don't really need a timer, I just need a reminder when something is about to pop.being the raid leader I sometimes get distracted |
| 23:36.52 | selckin | i used to add it elkano's buffbar, and move it somewhere else |
| 23:37.13 | selckin | 'demon' for raidleader monitoring of debuff |
| 23:37.22 | NeoTron_ | I use that |
| 23:37.41 | NeoTron_ | but demon doesn't remind me to cast CoD while I'm taking @ twins :P |
| 23:38.00 | NeoTron_ | yes it's once per minute but between moving and keeping an eye on every other timer, I forget at times |
| 23:38.11 | selckin | there is a good addon for that, can't think of the name, one sec |
| 23:38.24 | selckin | Ghost: pulse |
| 23:38.41 | selckin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8418-GhostPulse2.html |
| 23:38.53 | Mytos | i just use dbm and put a timer line into my macros |
| 23:39.14 | NeoTron_ | ah that's pretty nice |
| 23:39.15 | selckin | profalbert: ^ probably can be comfigured for demo shout aswel |
| 23:39.23 | selckin | i really love ghost pulse tbh |
| 23:39.24 | NeoTron_ | does Power Auras do stuff like that or just buffs? |
| 23:39.39 | selckin | never used that |
| 23:39.44 | profalbert | selckin: thanks |
| 23:40.12 | selckin | any warning you would ever want, you can basicly make it do |
| 23:40.34 | NeoTron_ | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8579-PowerAurasClassic.html |
| 23:40.39 | selckin | can be a bit tricky to configure right, but it improved alot lately |
| 23:40.40 | NeoTron_ | I'll check both out |
| 23:40.58 | selckin | i never liked perma-HUD type things |
| 23:41.04 | NeoTron_ | I don't think it is |
| 23:41.12 | NeoTron_ | it pops stuff up based on events |
| 23:41.35 | selckin | hmm yea, just looked at the screenshot tbh |
| 23:41.48 | NeoTron_ | it just pops up weird stuff compared to just a large icon |
| 23:41.51 | NeoTron_ | or something |
| 23:42.06 | selckin | mainly as a healer my focus is mostly on grid, so having things pop up in that area is really nice ;) |
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| 23:42.42 | NeoTron_ | yeah |
| 23:43.05 | ckknight | does anyone know a way to get the x/y coordinates for instances (not necessarily in-game or anything)? |
| 23:43.12 | NeoTron_ | in ghost pulse can you make it remind you, say, 1.5s before something expires/ |
| 23:43.50 | selckin | i think so, not sure, can't login right now to check |
| 23:43.51 | profalbert | NeoTron_: that would be exactly it |
| 23:44.17 | NeoTron_ | useful for, for example, refreshing immolate |
| 23:44.19 | NeoTron_ | if you roll that way |
| 23:44.27 | NeoTron_ | selckin: have to ask, are all your warlocks fire? |
| 23:44.44 | selckin | no |
| 23:45.00 | selckin | need spriest mana more :\« |
| 23:45.10 | selckin | 1 or 2 respec to it sometimes |
| 23:46.13 | Vulcanus | can PowerAuras like constantly flash if Im lacking a certain buff while in combat? |
| 23:46.25 | selckin | i have the most imba screenshot ever |
| 23:48.40 | selckin | http://selckin.be/stuff/WoWScrnShot_061608_234145.jpg |
| 23:48.43 | selckin | best quote ever! |
| 23:50.58 | NeoTron_ | Vulcanus: BuffEnough might do the trick if a red rectangle is sufficient to tickle your senses |
| 23:51.22 | selckin | audio is always better then visuals to get attention |
| 23:51.35 | Hjalte | BuffEnough is great for reminding about buffs. Just remember to check it before you go in. |
| 23:51.37 | selckin | (if you're having problems noticing stuff, add sounds!) |
| 23:51.43 | Vulcanus | doesnt work in pvp or while listening to music sadly |
| 23:51.56 | Vulcanus | maybe, just "Missing Seal!" flashing in font size 18 on my BigRed doesn't work as well as I want it to XD |
| 23:52.21 | selckin | yea, i mostly mean for raiding |
| 23:52.59 | Vulcanus | Ill check out buffenough tomorrow then, hopefully itll work so I dont have to lose dps on lacking SoC :( |
| 23:53.46 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78113 10Fortress/Core.lua: Fortress: text formatting |
| 23:53.47 | selckin | its a core ability, move the buff timer for it where you visual focus is most of the time |
| 23:53.56 | selckin | with EBB or something |
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| 23:55.19 | selckin | this badblock check has been running for 6 hours |
| 23:55.20 | selckin | :( |
