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| 00:09.59 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude 07LDB * r77941 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: tweaks |
| 00:13.58 | Tekkub | damnit funky |
| 00:14.11 | Tekkub | <-- lamost got Quickie to betaish stage |
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| 00:15.18 | selckin | what does it do |
| 00:15.40 | Tekkub | quicklaunch buttons, using LDB instead of people making those nasty ass FuBar buttons |
| 00:16.29 | Tekkub | one little embed (and Callback handler if you don't have it for AceEvent) and one little call to make a button |
| 00:16.43 | Tekkub | and the butons only bother users that install an addon to show them |
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| 00:20.29 | CIA-44 | 03shefki * r77942 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/Categories/TooltipScanning.lua: |
| 00:20.29 | CIA-44 | LibDogTag-Unit-3.0: |
| 00:20.29 | CIA-44 | - Fix to allow [Faction] to work on factions that are in collapsed categroies |
| 00:20.29 | CIA-44 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:21.45 | Zhinjio | Tekkub: I'd be interested in trying that out. |
| 00:22.18 | Tekkub | Zhinjio, givve half an hours or so, getting the last little bit of functionality in, then gotta create a github repo to push to |
| 00:22.32 | Zhinjio | I have like... 20+ fubar buttons I'm tired of looking at. |
| 00:22.35 | Tekkub | it's got no config at all, can't even move thi frame :) |
| 00:22.40 | Zhinjio | oh, I'm in no hurry |
| 00:22.41 | Tekkub | works like Auc's slidebar |
| 00:22.58 | Zhinjio | ok... |
| 00:23.00 | Tekkub | you'll have to convice those 20+ authors to move from fubar to this |
| 00:23.10 | Zhinjio | yeah, that won't happen. |
| 00:23.25 | Tekkub | but the idea is to disconnect from the display... there could be a dozen different addons that render these buttons |
| 00:23.41 | Tekkub | I'm just making my one to maybe get people interested |
| 00:23.59 | Tekkub | I know someone was working on LDB-to-fubar |
| 00:24.15 | Tekkub | so those fu buttons could still exist for the people that wanted em on fu |
| 00:24.44 | Tekkub | but the rest of us aren't forced into loading up that damn lib just for a stupid minimap button we don't want anyway |
| 00:24.52 | Zhinjio | that would be great if it gained some acceptance, and was easily stubbed into new addons |
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| 00:25.03 | Tekkub | it's super easy to do |
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| 00:25.07 | Zhinjio | good. |
| 00:25.09 | Tekkub | drop in the embed(s)... |
| 00:25.19 | Tekkub | LibStub:GetLibrary("LibDataBroker-1.1"):NewDataObject("Quickie", { |
| 00:25.19 | Tekkub | launcher = true, |
| 00:25.19 | Tekkub | icon = "Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Hunter_Readiness", |
| 00:25.19 | Tekkub | OnClick = function() InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame(about) end, |
| 00:25.19 | Tekkub | }) |
| 00:25.29 | Tekkub | there, a click-to-open-my-config button |
| 00:25.43 | Zhinjio | sweet |
| 00:25.49 | Funkeh` | fucking router |
| 00:26.12 | Tekkub | no ned to embed FBP and tablet and dewdrop and all the ace libs those need |
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| 00:26.49 | Tekkub | just LibStub, CallbackHandler and DataBroker... if you don't already have the first two from having Ace3 in your addon |
| 00:27.06 | DARKGuy | Tekkub: what are you doing? :O |
| 00:27.23 | Tekkub | DARKGuy, LDB "quicklaunch buttons" |
| 00:27.23 | DARKGuy | something to free the Fu from the bar? D: |
| 00:27.24 | Funkeh` | masturbating |
| 00:27.29 | DARKGuy | rofl |
| 00:27.43 | DARKGuy | stop peeking :p |
| 00:27.55 | Dark_Elf | Fubar nice, but when ya got 30 addons competing for space on 2 bars they tend to get crunched into same place, tryed making a 3rd bar once, saved reloaded and it didnt take so just left the addons on the bars messy lol |
| 00:27.56 | DARKGuy | Tekkub: oO what does it do? screenie? xD |
| 00:27.59 | Tekkub | something to remove the "quicklaunch" plugins from something they should have never been on (fubar) |
| 00:28.12 | Tekkub | no screenie... think Auc's Slidebar |
| 00:28.21 | Zhinjio | I'm using ... what is it called... uh ... |
| 00:28.22 | Tekkub | but generic and any addon can register easily |
| 00:28.26 | DARKGuy | I've never used Auc's slidebar :p |
| 00:28.28 | Zhinjio | Minimap Button Frame |
| 00:28.31 | DARKGuy | Ah |
| 00:28.37 | DARKGuy | I've seen that one |
| 00:28.38 | Tekkub | and doesn't load at all for users that don't install an addon specifically to show them |
| 00:28.42 | Zhinjio | to make a nice column of all the ones I'm currently keeping out |
| 00:30.10 | Dark_Elf | that minimap button frame is nice but i find it too wide be nice if it could make frame 1x32 or 2 x 16 in config or something |
| 00:30.21 | Zhinjio | you can |
| 00:30.51 | Zhinjio | I have it as 1 column, and I change scale to suit |
| 00:31.13 | Dark_Elf | whats the slash command i need to fix mine? |
| 00:31.31 | DARKGuy | hey Funkeh`, you think it's possible to make Statblocks store their current "attachment" position to other Statblocks so I don't have to re-attach them if I need to move them on relog? |
| 00:31.31 | Zhinjio | not sure. I use the button to open the config |
| 00:32.01 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.30 | Funkeh` | DARKGuy, no, stickyness was just an easy way for placement |
| 00:32.35 | CIA-44 | 03shefki * r77943 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/Categories/TooltipScanning.lua: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0: Oops left a line in that shouldn't still be there. |
| 00:33.10 | Tekkub | yea see, with this someone could make a minimap button that gives you the launchers, or a menu of launchers... or whatever |
| 00:33.26 | Tekkub | that's the whole point, disconnect from the displaying addon |
| 00:33.39 | DARKGuy | Funkeh`: :( but it gets annoying sometimes when I want to move them again when I relog, to re-attach them D: |
| 00:33.51 | Funkeh` | live with it |
| 00:33.52 | Tekkub | you just provide an icon, name and onclick and the display addon does whatever with those |
| 00:34.32 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 00:34.36 | Tekkub | and if the user doesn't install an addon to display it, you're not giving them minimap herpes |
| 00:34.43 | DARKGuy | Funkeh`: no, Fisker- should say that, you're nicer :( |
| 00:35.06 | Dark_Elf | its lot nice than detached minibuttons i was using prior, it made me move the buttons 1 by one and never did get them arranged nicely |
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| 00:43.23 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude 07LDB * r77944 10StatBlockCore/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): StatBlockCore: externals |
| 00:44.53 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77945 10StatBlockCore/: StatBlockCore: move to trunk |
| 00:45.24 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/quickie/ |
| 00:45.29 | Tekkub | for those of you interested |
| 00:45.53 | Tekkub | only has it's own button, of course... I'll be adding buttons to most of my addons |
| 00:47.09 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77946 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.toc: StatBlockCore: toc fix |
| 00:47.11 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: what will you do with the old StatBlocks? |
| 00:47.19 | Funkeh` | leave it there |
| 00:47.37 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.37 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * r48e126d 10/: Update README |
| 00:49.55 | [dRaCo] | are the old plugins compatible? |
| 00:51.16 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * r469629d 10/: Lets be nice and link Auc's page in the readme. |
| 00:51.34 | Funkeh` | no |
| 00:51.43 | Funkeh` | but you can use them side by side |
| 00:52.07 | Funkeh` | the config and everything is the same mainly so there's nothing new to learn |
| 00:52.18 | [dRaCo] | k |
| 00:53.02 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: typo in the readme^^ => Auctionners Slidebar |
| 00:54.04 | Tekkub | there will be lots of typos |
| 00:54.16 | Tekkub | I'm making a "Howto add to your addon" section now |
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| 00:57.06 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77947 10StatBlock_DPS/ (. StatBlock_DPS.lua StatBlock_DPS.toc): StatBlock_DPS: Import |
| 01:02.20 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77948 10StatBlock_DPS/ (. Libs/ StatBlock_DPS.lua StatBlock_DPS.toc embeds.xml): StatBlock_DPS: svn stuff |
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| 01:06.04 | Wraithan | there a way to reset the config window for bartender4? I accidently moved it off screen. |
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| 01:07.41 | Funkeh` | Wraithan, /rl |
| 01:08.18 | Wraithan | Ah didn't know it didn't remember its position |
| 01:11.30 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * ra1d373e 10/: More readme updates |
| 01:11.30 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * rd4c7150 10/: Link to LDB also |
| 01:12.17 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * r619dbbe 10/: *mumble* I hate that I can't preview this shit before I commit |
| 01:12.54 | Zyndrome | :< |
| 01:15.03 | Wraithan | Another Bar4 question, is there a way to show the empty buttons? |
| 01:15.24 | vithos | Wraithan: i believe the option is labeled "Grid" |
| 01:15.34 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77950 10StatBlock_XP/ (. StatBlock_XP.lua StatBlock_XP.toc): StatBlock_XP: Import, basic remaining xp only |
| 01:15.54 | Wraithan | Ah it wasn't working a min ago, but I had another addon glitching out |
| 01:17.17 | aestil | files.wowace.com has an old version of omen |
| 01:17.30 | aestil | is files only getting 'stable' versions? |
| 01:18.17 | Funkeh` | we stopped files.wowace.com now, you won't be able to get your addosn from there anymore, only the old ones |
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| 01:20.45 | Funkeh` | I was expecting more of a reaction but ok |
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| 01:21.02 | Stanzilla | *thumbsup* |
| 01:21.04 | [dRaCo] | most people prolly just took it as trolling |
| 01:21.05 | breser | Funkeh`: I was going to say something but I sense that we're being punked. |
| 01:21.16 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77951 10/trunk/ (StatBlock_XP/ StatBlock_ZoneText/): .trunk: logtemplates for XP/ZoneText |
| 01:21.24 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * r0bd72ea 10/: I think this is the last bit of README... but I might be wrong... |
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| 01:22.41 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * rba897b7 10/: I was wrong, fuck you textile! |
| 01:22.49 | Tekkub | okey, readme's all good to go :) |
| 01:22.55 | Tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/quickie |
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| 01:31.45 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * rd4118d4 10/: Typos... damnit |
| 01:31.45 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * r07fef7e 10/: Remove slash command stub, no plans to implement that! |
| 01:31.46 | CIA-44 | quickie: 03Tekkub 07master * r74d4560 10/: Remove template code we're not using right now |
| 01:32.28 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 01:34.40 | Zyndrome | "We don't make mistakes, we just have happy little accidents." |
| 01:36.06 | Zyndrome | Bob Ross is your mentor |
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| 01:48.21 | CIA-44 | amp: 03Tekkub 07master * r6c2e5f7 10/: Add LDB quicklaunch button |
| 01:49.39 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77953 10StatBlockCore/ (4 files in 2 dirs): StatBlockCore: bugfixing |
| 01:55.21 | Dark_Elf | is there an addon that tells how many quests one has left in an area? |
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| 01:57.18 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77954 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: pass the frame for tooltips and clicks |
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| 02:16.13 | Tekkub | I just found the best icon ever for ControlFreak |
| 02:16.16 | Tekkub | http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:BAKDEN9UZXo8PM:http://theatomicmoose.ca/vcd/freakazoid/images/freak_icon.jpg |
| 02:18.43 | CIA-44 | controlfreak: 03Tekkub 07master * rbf42399 10/: Add LDB quicklaunch button |
| 02:18.57 | CIA-44 | blipstick: 03Tekkub 07master * rfc3d28a 10/: Add LDB quicklaunch button |
| 02:19.25 | CIA-44 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * rc943274 10/: Add LDB quicklaunch button |
| 02:19.36 | Tekkub | okey, the's enough for now, more to come! |
| 02:23.23 | Zyndrome | Freakazoid! |
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| 02:23.24 | Zyndrome | D: |
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| 02:30.44 | CIA-44 | 03shefki * r77955 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull.toc): |
| 02:30.44 | CIA-44 | PitBull: |
| 02:30.44 | CIA-44 | - Hopefully fix taint issue (PB-354) |
| 02:30.44 | CIA-44 | - Add myself to the X-Credits per ckknight's request |
| 02:34.38 | CIA-44 | 03shefki * r77956 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/LibDogTag-Unit-3.0.toc: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0: Add myself to X-Credits per ckknight's request. |
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| 02:49.44 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77957 10StatBlockCore/ (4 files in 2 dirs): StatBlockCore: add in parenting options |
| 02:59.46 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77958 10StatBlockCore/ (4 files in 2 dirs): StatBlockCore: add strata options |
| 02:59.51 | Funkeh` | fuck me Ive been working on this for over 12 hours |
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| 03:30.12 | Olison | Cheers! :) |
| 03:32.06 | erikh | damn ramen |
| 03:32.10 | erikh | 3 minute cast, 2 minute cooldown |
| 03:32.19 | erikh | yes, I dropped by this channel just to make that joke |
| 03:32.22 | erikh | returns to lurking |
| 03:34.40 | lilum | would be way overpowered if it didn't put the 'Unhealthy' debuff on the caster :D |
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| 03:40.22 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77959 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: more bugfixing, should now work with the fubar hack |
| 03:40.26 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, zomg test |
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| 03:54.18 | Apoco | Arrowmaster: Ping |
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| 03:58.18 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77960 10LibDataBroker-1.1/: .trunk: remove LibDataBroker as per tekkub |
| 03:58.29 | Lysithea | anyone awake that could help me with a short codesnip in dogtag? |
| 03:58.37 | Lysithea | I just want to add a " -" :/ |
| 03:58.47 | Lysithea | http://ace.pastey.net/90822 if it helps |
| 03:58.51 | Diao | if you put that literally it should work |
| 03:59.01 | Diao | or Text( -) |
| 03:59.06 | Diao | i think |
| 03:59.37 | Lysithea | HP:VeryShort MissingHP:Hide(0):Short:Color('ff7f7f') how do I unput that in that line |
| 03:59.43 | Lysithea | input* |
| 04:00.04 | Diao | um |
| 04:00.24 | vithos | -MissingHP |
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| 04:00.40 | vithos | or "-" MissingHP |
| 04:00.49 | Lysithea | if I do that the - is always there |
| 04:00.52 | Lysithea | even if at full |
| 04:01.07 | vithos | then do it the first way |
| 04:01.17 | Lysithea | -Missinhp? |
| 04:01.22 | vithos | yes |
| 04:01.30 | Diao | just do |
| 04:01.31 | Diao | :Negate |
| 04:01.32 | Diao | at the end |
| 04:02.02 | Lysithea | -Missing doesnt work since it asssumes the - as a codefunction |
| 04:02.04 | Lysithea | trying negate |
| 04:02.23 | Lysithea | unknown tag |
| 04:02.37 | vithos | it worked today when i was writing tags, i don't know. |
| 04:02.51 | Diao | wtf |
| 04:03.10 | Diao | 1 sec |
| 04:03.37 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77961 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: ignore launcher plugins (for quickie type addons) |
| 04:05.00 | Lysithea | such a simple thing yet so hard for me to figure out :) |
| 04:05.31 | Lysithea | Ah |
| 04:05.33 | Lysithea | I got it |
| 04:05.49 | Diao | what was it :o |
| 04:06.00 | Lysithea | vithos that -missinghp worked just had to add [] around the whole thing |
| 04:06.48 | Lysithea | or well, (-missinghp) rather |
| 04:07.04 | Diao | ah |
| 04:07.08 | vithos | it added it for me automatically |
| 04:07.44 | Lysithea | didnt for me when I tried it :) |
| 04:07.48 | Groktar | omg |
| 04:07.51 | Groktar | we have six shaman in the raid |
| 04:07.55 | Groktar | lol |
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| 04:26.08 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 04:27.26 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77962 10/trunk/ (118 files in 10 dirs): .trunk: re-add addons by ackis |
| 04:27.54 | Funkeh` | fucking 118 files |
| 04:30.03 | Olison | Why were they removed? :o |
| 04:30.10 | Olison | Did I miss something? |
| 04:30.30 | Funkeh` | sexual healing |
| 04:31.03 | Ellipsis | hugs Zhinjio and then collapses |
| 04:33.08 | Olison | Hm! |
| 04:33.13 | Olison | checks the forums |
| 04:33.49 | Lysithea | Hmm, another question regarding dogtag, this time the powerbar. I'd like to have the name of the spell to the left instead of a icon. I can get the name of the spell etc in but I cant get it to the left side of the bar: | name2.3| <- is current, I want | name 2.3 | |
| 04:34.05 | Olison | Oh drama |
| 04:34.15 | Lysithea | err |....name 2.3| |
| 04:34.22 | Lysithea | |name.....2.3| |
| 04:35.05 | Ellipsis | use two separate tags, one for the name positioned on the inside left of the bar, and one for the time on the inside right |
| 04:35.09 | vithos | Lysithea: sounds like it needs to be a seperate tag |
| 04:35.16 | Olison | MH Funkeh`, why add his addons then? |
| 04:35.26 | Funkeh` | he asked |
| 04:35.28 | Groktar | rofl 3 resto shaman and a spriest in my group |
| 04:35.32 | Groktar | let's see if i can oom |
| 04:35.34 | Groktar | >.> |
| 04:35.34 | Olison | oic |
| 04:37.04 | vithos | Groktar: what are you, and why do |
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| 04:38.33 | Lysithea | how do I align it to the left side? Still can't figure it out |
| 04:39.12 | Ellipsis | in the options for the text, set its position to inside left |
| 04:42.41 | Lysithea | that puts the time to the left aswell tho :/ |
| 04:44.25 | Ellipsis | that's why you use two separate tags. |
| 04:44.40 | Ellipsis | like I said - the name tag gets positioned to the left, the time tag gets positioned to the right, and everybody's happy |
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| 04:47.22 | Lysithea | ah there |
| 04:47.30 | Lysithea | I'm halfblind ^^ |
| 04:49.03 | Lysithea | yay, done |
| 04:49.07 | Lysithea | thanks for the help |
| 04:53.38 | Ellipsis | anytime |
| 04:54.16 | Lysithea | havent played wow for 9months so setting up the ui takes a while :) |
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| 05:40.34 | Aiiane | !points 1517 |
| 05:40.35 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 05:40.40 | Aiiane | bah |
| 05:40.46 | Aiiane | !rating 1517 |
| 05:40.46 | Xinhuan | 1517 rating gives 362(5s), 319(3s) and 275(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 06:14.11 | syeren | WTB Phanx. |
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| 06:19.37 | spookydonkey | oh they're nerfing librams in 2.4.3 |
| 06:19.38 | spookydonkey | funny |
| 06:19.52 | syeren | How so? |
| 06:20.12 | Groktar | switching them stops spellcasting |
| 06:20.12 | spookydonkey | Equipping an item will now cancel any spell cast currently in progress. |
| 06:20.13 | Groktar | ? |
| 06:20.19 | Groktar | ya |
| 06:20.53 | breser | You can thank the people who got the bright idea to use haste weapons and pure spell damage weapons together for that. |
| 06:21.33 | spookydonkey | seems like horde is losing 90% of AVs |
| 06:21.53 | spookydonkey | I wonder if we cry hard enough if they'll change the map again |
| 06:22.03 | breser | They'd use the haste weapon at the start of a cast to increase the cast speed since the cast time is calculated at the start of spell and switch to a pure spell damage weapon once the spell is casting to get the most damage out of it since sell damage is calculated when the spell completes. |
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| 06:22.26 | breser | spookydonkey: Horde/Alliance win loss varies from battlegroup to battlegroup. |
| 06:22.35 | spookydonkey | it's true |
| 06:23.01 | breser | The map change was really needed becuase it was absurd that Horde could reach alliance towers before the alliance could. |
| 06:23.01 | theoddone33 | I'm just still amazed that they changed the map due to alliance QQing |
| 06:23.06 | nurdc0re3 | is anyone around who can help me find an addon replacement? |
| 06:23.48 | theoddone33 | I dunno, AV map has been unbalanced various ways ever since it started |
| 06:23.52 | breser | ~asktoask |
| 06:23.53 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 06:24.01 | theoddone33 | I guess the problem is that they change the BG rules every other patch |
| 06:24.03 | nurdc0re3 | lol, alright |
| 06:24.34 | breser | theoddone33: I don't disagree there are imbalances but it was virtually impossible for alliance to defend Stonehearth pre map change. |
| 06:24.58 | breser | Stonehearth was a gimme to the Horde. |
| 06:25.06 | theoddone33 | the tower you mean |
| 06:25.11 | breser | Yeah. |
| 06:25.39 | breser | Even with crusader aura you could never get to it before horde were there killing the archers. |
| 06:25.52 | theoddone33 | no one defends towers today anyway |
| 06:25.55 | theoddone33 | at least on my bg |
| 06:26.04 | nurdc0re3 | i have been using bongos, but the only feature i really want to keep around is coloring actionbar buttons based on what debuffs/buffs are up, is there an addon to do ONLY that? i am trying to slim down my interface |
| 06:26.41 | breser | Hmm no idea, I've never used bongos and never heard of that feature so can't recommend anything. |
| 06:26.44 | theoddone33 | not sure what you mean |
| 06:26.51 | theoddone33 | if you got cursed it colored decurse? |
| 06:26.53 | theoddone33 | or something else |
| 06:26.59 | nurdc0re3 | i'll give an example |
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| 06:27.20 | CIA-44 | mountme: 03Tekkub 07master * r27f4cdd 10/: Add LDB quicklaunch button |
| 06:27.33 | nurdc0re3 | when i have Curse of Agony on a mob and they're targetted, the button for that spell is colored red, other spell buttons have their default look |
| 06:28.16 | nurdc0re3 | it's really handy for warlocks especially to know which debuffs are up |
| 06:28.17 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r2267656 10/: Add LDB quicklaunch button |
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| 06:28.59 | breser | I really don't think the map change hurt horde all that bad. Still seems to be 50/50 on my BG. |
| 06:29.36 | breser | Sometimes it's worse one way or the other, depends on how many idiots are playing. |
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| 06:30.05 | breser | And generally if your side makes a decent attempt at all in being competitive it's still good honor. |
| 06:30.30 | breser | Only time it sucks is if you end up with a turtle or you just get completely steam rolled. Neither of which I see hapening much anymore. |
| 06:30.54 | breser | That said Horde on my BG routinely run premades. |
| 06:32.30 | theoddone33 | I don't think the map change hurt |
| 06:32.40 | theoddone33 | it was just ... unprecedented |
| 06:33.10 | theoddone33 | like for the first time ever they actually did something that at least looked like they cared a LITTLE about balance |
| 06:33.46 | theoddone33 | other than fixing obvious bugs like capping towers through walls and running guards off the waterfall |
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| 06:38.01 | breser | I think the problem with AV is that they designed it as one thing, players turned it into something else and Blizzard has allowed and encouraged the player perception of it through their own changes. |
| 06:38.33 | breser | AV started as an epic, long term battle zone. It's now just a race to see who can kill the others general first now. |
| 06:38.55 | breser | Map balance for something that would take hours or even days to reach a conclusion didn't matter. |
| 06:39.05 | breser | But for a 15 minute race it matters. |
| 06:39.27 | Lysithea | alliance bridge killed the fun out of the "epic long battles" |
| 06:39.28 | theoddone33 | I don't like it at all these days |
| 06:39.56 | Lysithea | map imbalances killed the long epic battles pretty much :/ |
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| 06:40.38 | breser | Players desiring a quick honor reward killed the epic battles IMHO. |
| 06:40.50 | Lysithea | well, yes |
| 06:41.05 | Lysithea | partly because only thing that matters now is honor |
| 06:41.13 | Lysithea | they made the honor grind too much of a deal |
| 06:41.16 | Lysithea | or something |
| 06:41.18 | breser | Yup and that's Blizzard's fault. |
| 06:41.55 | theoddone33 | well pvp is broken entirely |
| 06:42.06 | Lysithea | I'd be more happy with less honor cost and "you need this much/many stat/wins/tokens" |
| 06:42.12 | Lysithea | or well, dunno. |
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| 06:42.30 | theoddone33 | but it's telling when all my new 70 toons end up exalted with AV before hitting friendly with wsg/ab |
| 06:42.35 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 06:42.40 | theoddone33 | maybe just maybe there's something slightly wrong with that |
| 06:42.46 | cncfanatics | don't pvp ? :p |
| 06:42.52 | breser | well reputation rewards from WSG and AB are absurd. |
| 06:43.10 | theoddone33 | that's the thing, wsg and ab aren't as efficient as AB |
| 06:43.12 | theoddone33 | er AV |
| 06:43.12 | breser | 35 per flag cap... lol |
| 06:43.24 | theoddone33 | or maybe they are and people are just worse at thetm |
| 06:43.28 | Lysithea | an actual contribution stat sytem would be awesome, reward for being good and active not passive |
| 06:43.36 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 06:43.40 | theoddone33 | that would be excellent |
| 06:43.48 | Lysithea | ie, I got this much points for being an excellent healer |
| 06:43.51 | theoddone33 | no more "just lose quick we get more honor" |
| 06:44.11 | breser | I think they should just implement rated BGs by guild. Let people queue for them. |
| 06:44.16 | Lysithea | tho, I'm sure that would get abused/farmed somehow anyway |
| 06:44.39 | theoddone33 | I hope they disable the av enabler mod |
| 06:44.39 | breser | Put easy to get entry level PVP armor on rep vendors (like they've done) |
| 06:44.43 | theoddone33 | to be honest |
| 06:44.51 | breser | Then earn points from the guild BGs. |
| 06:44.59 | Lysithea | static maps and few options doesnt help either |
| 06:45.11 | breser | Individual queue/small group queuing = fun with no reward. |
| 06:45.48 | breser | You get points from the win. Work it somewhat like arena. |
| 06:46.23 | breser | Bring competitive PVP into the objective based stuff. |
| 06:46.30 | breser | Trash this "let's fight in a box" garbage. |
| 06:46.33 | theoddone33 | what's the site where you can see your stats in differnet gear/chant/gem combos? |
| 06:46.41 | theoddone33 | setting up fake gearsets, etc |
| 06:47.40 | breser | As it is PVP guilds end up being very loosely organized and barely functional now. Beucase there's nothing driving them together. |
| 06:48.13 | breser | PVE guilds have to be strong becuase the raiding environment doesn't really allow poorly organized PVE guilds to succeeded much. |
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| 06:49.39 | breser | In a lot of respects the social aspect of PVP is almost dead because PVP is just something you do to acquire points to get some gear. Premades happen simply because it's more efficient than some random group of people. Not because different premades are trying to compete. |
| 06:50.01 | cncfanatics | breser: exactly |
| 06:50.15 | breser | Hell most premades multi-queue anymore and bail if they see another premade, they don't even wait to see if it sucks. |
| 06:50.20 | cncfanatics | you shouldn't forget WoW in the essence was a PvE game though |
| 06:50.31 | breser | Ohh I realize that. |
| 06:50.42 | cncfanatics | blizz quite failed in the PvP aspect though |
| 06:50.46 | cncfanatics | its a boring, unbalanced gear grind |
| 06:50.50 | theoddone33 | which is odd since pvp is vastly more accessible/popular |
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| 06:51.29 | breser | It's more accessible because there's no social aspect. You log on, queue up and run your way through horrible groups until you have managed to collect enough honor. |
| 06:51.55 | breser | Arena has a social aspect and people liek that but Blizzard completely failed by making it about small groups. |
| 06:52.05 | breser | By making it about small groups it's about composition. |
| 06:52.41 | breser | So if you want to succeed in arena you run a good comp or you don't. Ohh you're a feral druid, that's too bad, respec to resto. |
| 06:53.02 | breser | If they made it about large groups then specs and comps don't really matter. Strategy matters more. |
| 06:53.59 | breser | But the ultimate problem I have with arena is you can't just play with whoever, you're driven into small groups. You're forced to play everyone a certain amount or they don't get their points for the week. |
| 06:54.30 | breser | So if player x logged on and played 20 games and you and the rest of the team wants to play more. You have to either screw player x or wait and hope they get on. |
| 06:55.06 | breser | Anyway I'll stop now. |
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| 07:07.59 | CIA-44 | Wishlist: |
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| 07:09.36 | cncfanatics | breser: ain't it the same for PvE ? :p |
| 07:10.20 | cncfanatics | can't play with whoeve either |
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| 07:10.23 | cncfanatics | need some min-maxing |
| 07:10.36 | cncfanatics | whoever* |
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| 07:13.58 | erikh | arena is pvp raiding |
| 07:14.07 | erikh | with all the same bonuses and drawbacks. |
| 07:14.30 | cncfanatics | not true |
| 07:14.40 | cncfanatics | pve raiding ain't 2, 3 or 5 man |
| 07:14.58 | cncfanatics | you also don't queue for pve raiding, you go whenever you plan it |
| 07:15.54 | Zyndrome | puts erikh in front of M'uru |
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| 07:17.40 | Zyndrome | RESILLIANCE KILLED PVP btw :3 |
| 07:18.35 | Drundia | is it most commonly misspelled word? (like rouge) |
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| 07:19.17 | Zyndrome | resilience then |
| 07:19.28 | Zyndrome | but I dont care ;/ |
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| 07:22.10 | Lysithea | name of addon that "removes" a part of the screen so the actual wow graphic window resizes, I want to put chat bars etc at the bottom but not miss out on the graphics behind it... not sure if I explain it good enough :/ |
| 07:23.33 | Lysithea | ah, ctviewport should do it |
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| 07:24.45 | breser | Viewport, Skinner, etc. |
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| 07:27.57 | Lysithea | oh yeah, skinner, that's what I used before |
| 07:27.59 | Lysithea | thanks |
| 07:28.17 | winkiller | well, what would you miss out? |
| 07:28.23 | winkiller | you can't skew the view |
| 07:28.45 | winkiller | so.. you don't see things. like a shutter, but not that it helps for missing stuff :P |
| 07:29.11 | winkiller | imagines playing wow in 180°-fisheye pov like quake... |
| 07:30.10 | Zyndrome | it's basically viewport resizing... many patches ago, addons could create multiple viewport frames, allowing a rear mirror :D |
| 07:30.22 | Zyndrome | changing the FoV is a whole other story |
| 07:30.35 | winkiller | "but not miss out on the graphics behind it" |
| 07:31.34 | Zyndrome | I blame no sleep @ 9:30 in the morning and caffeine still in my system |
| 07:33.35 | Lysithea | couldnt explain it good enough, viewport function was what I was looking for |
| 07:33.39 | Lysithea | [09:31:46] <Zyndrome> I blame no sleep @ 9:30 in the morning and caffeine still in my system |
| 07:33.44 | Lysithea | Im going with that one aswell |
| 07:34.00 | Lysithea | except, Im missing out on caffeine |
| 07:39.02 | winkiller | :) |
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| 07:49.48 | winkiller | things you don't want to find in sourcecode: // Don't even ask me how this works. |
| 07:49.57 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 07:50.01 | cncfanatics | smells copy/paste |
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| 07:50.48 | CIA-44 | BuffEnough: |
| 07:50.48 | CIA-44 | - one more try at fixing localization |
| 07:51.37 | winkiller | it goes on like this: |
| 07:51.48 | Lukian | haha, they may have just commented it weeks after writing it :p |
| 07:51.51 | winkiller | Apparently it creates a register for the filenme by xoring the characters into a number from right to left. The top six bits and the |
| 07:51.54 | winkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:52.03 | winkiller | and it's probably 10 years old |
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| 08:17.03 | Aiiane | !rating 1445 |
| 08:17.03 | Xinhuan | 1445 rating gives 331(5s), 292(3s) and 252(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 09:21.05 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 09:21.05 | CIA-44 | - de-externalized LegoBlock and LibDataBroker-1.1 |
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| 11:17.18 | CIA-44 | 03Copystring * r77971 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 11:17.18 | CIA-44 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 11:17.18 | CIA-44 | - bugfix showing wrong source/destination |
| 11:17.18 | CIA-44 | - remove the default combatlog from ChatFrame2 |
| 11:17.18 | CIA-44 | - added option to show timestamps in ChatFrame2 |
| 11:17.18 | CIA-44 | - fix some typos |
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| 11:45.28 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77972 10Broker_Clock/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Broker_Clock: Added LDB-1.1 file |
| 11:45.48 | Fisker- | what is broker btw? |
| 11:46.05 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77973 10Broker_Clock/: Broker_Clock: Readded other SVN externals |
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| 11:47.58 | Cheads | must some place where you can sell stocks? |
| 11:49.52 | phyber | Not sure, but that LibDataBroker-1.1 doesn't exist in trunk :| |
| 11:50.24 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77974 10Broker_Durability/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Broker_Durability: Added LDB-1.1 file |
| 11:50.30 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77975 10Broker_Mail/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Broker_Mail: Added LDB-1.1 file |
| 11:50.42 | profalbert | iirc LibDataBroker is by tekkub |
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| 11:50.54 | phyber | ah. |
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| 11:51.33 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77976 10Broker_PvP/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Broker_PvP: Added LDB-1.1 file |
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| 11:54.27 | cnc|work | commit spam :' |
| 11:54.29 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77979 10Broker_Durability/: Broker_Durability: Readded SVN externals |
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| 11:55.44 | cnc|work | ag, don't spam so muchj |
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| 11:55.52 | cnc|work | ag` eve |
| 11:55.55 | cnc|work | s/eve/even/ |
| 11:56.05 | ag` | I can't help it |
| 11:56.20 | cnc|work | meh, wowwace svn fails |
| 11:56.58 | ag` | a combination of that and tortoiseSVN |
| 11:58.45 | profalbert | ag`: so, which addons can display that broker-stuff? |
| 11:58.51 | omega | Fortress |
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| 11:59.51 | ag` | StatBlocks2 in branches |
| 12:00.39 | ag` | and http://github.com/tekkub/quickie/tree/master |
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| 12:11.28 | Mytos | mornin peoples |
| 12:12.27 | Mytos | would there be a way to write a mod that would let you substitute spell ids for spellnames in macros |
| 12:13.48 | Stanzilla | ag`: Tooltips are a bit broken in your FuBar2Broker thingy :) |
| 12:14.02 | ag` | Stanzilla, which fubar plugin? |
| 12:14.07 | ag` | and broken how |
| 12:14.12 | Stanzilla | screenshot inc |
| 12:14.24 | ag` | great |
| 12:15.13 | Stanzilla | ag`: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c27fbab7930ddaa2b454cf9f8cdc0026.jpg |
| 12:15.29 | Stanzilla | GroupFu and some more look similiar |
| 12:18.35 | ag` | looks wierd yeah :P |
| 12:18.55 | Stanzilla | GroupFu, BankStack, Violation and BigWigs are the other ones |
| 12:21.32 | ag` | logging in with violation now |
| 12:22.59 | ag` | Hmm Stanzilla, my violation doesn't have a tooltip |
| 12:24.35 | Stanzilla | ag`: mine says "Click to toggle the bar display. Shift-Click to reset" |
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| 12:35.17 | selckin | whats a good HD brand these days |
| 12:35.25 | nevcairiel | samsung or WD |
| 12:35.26 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 12:35.39 | nevcairiel | seagate isnt too bad either |
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| 12:35.48 | profalbert | I have seagate all over my place |
| 12:36.12 | Funkeh` | ag`, why in the name of all things good do you add ldb to every plugin, the viewer need's it, that's it |
| 12:36.30 | selckin | samsung 10 eur cheaper then WD |
| 12:36.37 | selckin | guess that one will be it! |
| 12:37.11 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: obviously the plugins need it to, or they error if no viewer is installed |
| 12:37.29 | nevcairiel | and you cant be sure that your viewer loads before your plugin |
| 12:37.35 | Funkeh` | it should error when you have no viewer.. |
| 12:37.41 | Funkeh` | then the user knows they need a viewer |
| 12:37.55 | ag` | nah, because some people don't want a viewer |
| 12:38.03 | ag` | however a check could be done |
| 12:38.06 | Funkeh` | what's the point with no viewer? |
| 12:38.15 | nevcairiel | even then |
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| 12:38.20 | nevcairiel | (14:37:20) (@nevcairiel) and you cant be sure that your viewer loads before your plugin |
| 12:38.29 | ag` | ah yeah |
| 12:38.33 | Funkeh` | mm |
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| 12:38.45 | ag` | that's the mother of all arguments |
| 12:39.18 | ag` | the other thing I was going to say was that you could have addons that provide a launcher (the ones Tekkub talks about= |
| 12:39.21 | ag` | ) |
| 12:39.30 | ag` | but the user might not want them shown |
| 12:39.35 | ag` | so he doesn't install a display |
| 12:39.40 | ag` | then he should not get an error |
| 12:39.48 | nevcairiel | in a perfect MVC world, the plugin itself would not care nor know if there is a viewer |
| 12:40.26 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:42.20 | winkiller | in a perfect nevcairiel there would be no performance because of all the loose coupling |
| 12:42.38 | winkiller | ok, in a perfect mvc world :P |
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| 13:07.51 | Stanzilla | ag`: oh and left-clicking does not work for all fubar plugins, right-clicking does :) |
| 13:07.56 | ag` | yep |
| 13:08.20 | ag` | I'm working on making it better |
| 13:08.24 | Stanzilla | <3 |
| 13:08.27 | ag` | hooking an embeddable lib sucks |
| 13:08.30 | Stanzilla | the tooltip stuff is really annoying^^ |
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| 13:44.54 | Roblibob | skinner aswell if you already use it, iirc |
| 13:44.59 | Roblibob | hm |
| 13:45.01 | Roblibob | mt |
| 13:45.11 | Roblibob | answered a question asked 3 hours ago lewl. |
| 13:46.30 | CIA-44 | 03nevcairiel * r77985 10Broker_SysMon/Broker_SysMon.lua: Broker_SysMon: global variables are bad, hmkay? |
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| 14:06.06 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77986 10StatBlock_DPS/StatBlock_DPS.lua: StatBlock_DPS: remove statblock from the tooltip |
| 14:09.59 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77987 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: FuBar2Broker: hacked around some more |
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| 14:11.31 | CIA-44 | 03nevcairiel * r77988 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: fix another bug with setting width/height on new bars |
| 14:13.48 | Silviu- | ag` in Broker_SysMon.toc at ## OptionalDeps should be LibDataBroker-1.1 not 1.0 i think ;p |
| 14:14.00 | ag` | probably yes |
| 14:14.41 | dieck | hi! is CT Raid Tracker still the addon of my choice for tracking raid attendence and uploading to eqdkp? or is there antoher addon, or another dkp web system to use? ;) |
| 14:14.58 | nevcairiel | i still use CT_RT |
| 14:15.12 | nevcairiel | the version from http://www.mldkp.net/ though |
| 14:15.16 | Elkano | ag, actually non at all since there is no standalone |
| 14:15.16 | profalbert | Isn't NRT any good? |
| 14:17.29 | Elkano | ag, and wrt naming, no idea... maybe name them shards? |
| 14:20.00 | Roblibob | is there any page on broker on the wiki or forum? |
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| 14:24.36 | Jygga | !paste |
| 14:24.51 | Elkano | there is a large discussion thread on the lib that has a strange name ;) |
| 14:30.20 | ag` | huh Elkano ?:) |
| 14:30.43 | Elkano | huh on what? |
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| 14:31.47 | ag` | oh, about embeds |
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| 14:31.59 | ag` | yeah I'll remove the opdeps |
| 14:32.13 | ag` | The thing is that it is hard to name them anything |
| 14:32.22 | ag` | nothing describes it really |
| 14:33.49 | ag` | Shard isn't descriptive in itself, but I like it, what about infoshard or datashard? |
| 14:34.10 | ag` | sounds a bit magic too |
| 14:34.25 | Elkano | well, for the DOs embedded in an addon, there doesn't need to be a name; for these small data providers that only want to be displayed without any further functionality one could group them by name but in therory it isn't needed |
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| 14:35.01 | Elkano | datashards sounds better then dataobjects but has the data part of LDB ^^ I like it |
| 14:36.21 | Stanzilla | ag`: hm with the latest FuBar2Broker I don't get any modules^^ (using StatBlockCore btw) |
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| 14:36.35 | ag` | I'm starting over |
| 14:37.00 | ag` | hooking into an embeddable lib is total bullshit, I'm going to fake the entire lib now |
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| 14:37.26 | Stanzilla | ok :) |
| 14:37.36 | Elkano | ag, I don |
| 14:37.47 | Elkano | ag, I don't thin we should do such an addon anyways... |
| 14:38.18 | Elkano | don't make FB plugins show up via LDB since they aren't written for it |
| 14:38.37 | Elkano | having LDB shards show up in FB shouldn't be that much of a problem though |
| 14:38.44 | Wraithan | LDB? |
| 14:38.47 | ag` | Well, it's for people who want it |
| 14:39.06 | ag` | I wouldn't mind having all my addons use LDB but they don't.. :( |
| 14:39.38 | ag` | of course that could be changed, but I think that would piss some people off:) |
| 14:40.20 | Elkano | yeah, but I doubt you can do it in a clean way since you would have to override FBP and thus most likely break it's FuBar compatibility or at least turn it into even more crap ;) |
| 14:40.41 | nevcairiel | nah you can do it cleanly |
| 14:40.55 | nevcairiel | You have to look at the Plugin as if you where FuBar |
| 14:41.14 | Elkano | well, if we would have a addon creating FB plugins from datashards one could convert the addons to LDB and tell them to add the compat layer addon |
| 14:41.38 | ag` | nevcairiel, it's not that easy, because FBP creates it's own frame |
| 14:41.47 | Stanzilla | have fun converting all the fubarplugins :P |
| 14:42.13 | ag` | so FuBar addon isn't aware of icon or text updates |
| 14:42.20 | Elkano | *randomimage* http://kqe.de/pruell/chinamalwieder.jpg |
| 14:42.21 | ag` | this means you *have* to override FBP |
| 14:43.16 | Elkano | ag, I think it's a better idea to make them write using LDB in first place then giving them a way to keep writing for FB specificaly and gain the benefits of LDB.. |
| 14:43.49 | Elkano | as soon as LDB is wider spread the community will start to call for ports to LDB anyways where they wouldn't be needed your way |
| 14:44.01 | nevcairiel | You could rewrite FBP to do LDB, and rewrite FuBar to be a LDB viewer :P |
| 14:44.22 | ag` | I'm doing that for FBP now |
| 14:44.50 | ag` | but my stupid FuBarPlugin.OnEmbedInitialize isn't getting called |
| 14:46.02 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77989 10FuBar2Broker/ (FuBar.toc FuBar2Broker.lua FuBar2Broker.toc libs/): FuBar2Broker: commented out all crap |
| 14:47.15 | Roblibob | :) |
| 14:48.06 | ckknight | I'm sleepy :-( |
| 14:48.10 | ckknight | yawns |
| 14:48.47 | Stanzilla | licks ckknight |
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| 14:49.59 | Wraithan | What is LBD |
| 14:50.04 | Wraithan | er LDB |
| 14:50.07 | profalbert | LibDataBroker |
| 14:51.03 | profalbert | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 14:51.14 | profalbert | ~ldb |
| 14:57.42 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77990 10Baldrick/ (Baldrick.lua Baldrick.toc): |
| 14:57.42 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
| 14:57.42 | CIA-44 | - Moved out of beta |
| 14:57.42 | CIA-44 | - Don't mess with the cooldown window if setting button to the last item |
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| 15:02.36 | Silviu- | ;))) |
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| 15:12.15 | Dark_Elf | lol |
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| 15:48.52 | nevcairiel | blasphemy! |
| 15:49.20 | Mytos | what? |
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| 15:58.53 | Mytos | we have any other moonkins in here? |
| 15:59.24 | ckknight | boomkin! |
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| 16:01.23 | Mytos | looking for advice in how to convince a raiding guild that a moonkin isnt useless like they were before bc |
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| 16:01.43 | nevcairiel | good luck :P |
| 16:02.22 | Xinhuan | p.s moonkin sucks, particularly for sunwell |
| 16:02.23 | Stanzilla | it's still useless |
| 16:02.25 | nevcairiel | our boomkin quit some time ago, and we didnt really feel like recruiting a new one |
| 16:02.33 | Xinhuan | would rather bring a hunter over a moonkin |
| 16:02.44 | durcyn | get double 4pc t5/t6, and be prepared to sit out for fights where damage actually matters, since you're still a net dps loss? |
| 16:02.47 | Xinhuan | more damage, more threat |
| 16:03.06 | nevcairiel | how is more threat good o.O |
| 16:03.13 | Stanzilla | miss direct :P |
| 16:03.17 | durcyn | nevcairiel: tank threat, misdirection, i'd guess |
| 16:03.18 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 16:03.19 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 16:03.34 | Xinhuan | that's what i meant! |
| 16:03.35 | Stanzilla | + a hunter can fd |
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| 16:03.45 | durcyn | irrelevant |
| 16:03.45 | Mytos | i outdpsed this guilds mage in a za run and theyre tellin me that i cant put out enough dps, the guys rockin 4pc t6 and 2piece t5 im wearing kara and badge gear |
| 16:03.59 | durcyn | any tank that loses threat to a balance druid needs to be shot anyway |
| 16:04.01 | Xinhuan | he's probably just afking |
| 16:04.21 | Mytos | i was averageing 1700dps, he was doin 1600 |
| 16:04.28 | nevcairiel | durcyn: oh its possible if the druid forgot to spec aggro reduce ;) |
| 16:04.34 | vithos | 3% physical hit for the raid is kinda nice, but i haven't tried to estimate raid dps contribution |
| 16:04.56 | Mytos | 3% for raid and 6% crit for the party |
| 16:05.18 | Xinhuan | its still not enough to replace a stacked BM group, over 3.5k dps |
| 16:05.21 | Xinhuan | or 3k |
| 16:05.42 | Mytos | bm? |
| 16:05.46 | vithos | 3k? i only do 2.5k :( |
| 16:06.14 | Xinhuan | yeah skgaming ones do like 3k |
| 16:06.29 | Xinhuan | even 2.5k is way better than what a moonkin can bring |
| 16:07.08 | vithos | about how much personal dps can the moonkin put out? |
| 16:07.09 | Mytos | ya know, every moonkin ive ever seen that was acctually given a chance to roll on gear he can use has topped dps meters, i always top in whatever raid im in |
| 16:07.22 | Stanzilla | they did 3,xk on brut because they killed him in 4 minutes or so |
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| 16:07.32 | Mytos | but about 90% of us get screwed out of gear because we want cloth |
| 16:07.36 | durcyn | Mytos: then you play with terrible, terrible, bad, beyond dumb, useless people who should have their hands removed. |
| 16:08.15 | Xinhuan | there is no way a properly synergized raid group setup, a moonkin go be above 10th in dps |
| 16:08.16 | durcyn | needs another adjective or two, but it's not you. it's them. |
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| 16:09.55 | Mytos | have you guys read the talent trees for druids in wotlk? |
| 16:09.55 | Xinhuan | i.e shaman that is properly playing his totem rotation, drums, stacking appropriate consumables+trinket at the right time, etc |
| 16:09.58 | Mytos | blizz is gettin so lazy |
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| 16:10.45 | Mytos | every 51point is close to a carbon copy of other classes spells |
| 16:11.02 | FinalX | isn't that the basic foundation of WoW? |
| 16:11.05 | FinalX | "more of the same" |
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| 16:14.09 | jy_ | is it possible that a limited supply recipe is visible at a vendor only if you have the profession ? |
| 16:14.11 | vithos | hmm yeah, i think you're right Xinhuan. if i get 1.2 dps per hit (i.e. i can utilize 3% completely, which isn't even really true), and there were 9 physical dps making complete use of 3% hit, the moonkin would have to do 2k personal dps to break even at about 2.5k |
| 16:15.11 | Xinhuan | think about it, if a moonkin is viable, why aren't any of the top 50 guilds using them |
| 16:15.17 | Mytos | if your gauranteed that 3% hit though you can lose hit in other places for more ap/crit |
| 16:15.41 | Xinhuan | the aura is really a gimmick, half the fights you need to spread out |
| 16:15.44 | vithos | Mytos: i raid with a moonkin now. it's just not possible to drop that much hit as a hunter |
| 16:15.45 | Xinhuan | and you aren't even in range of it |
| 16:15.46 | Mytos | the core is 35th in the us and theyre using one |
| 16:15.55 | Xinhuan | ok, so 1 guild in top 50 |
| 16:15.57 | Xinhuan | uses it |
| 16:16.14 | Mytos | thats just the guild i keep track of, theyre on my realm and ive got friends in there |
| 16:17.33 | Xinhuan | i'm sorry, i simply cannot justify bringing a moonkin on any first-kills, maybe only for bosses on farm mode |
| 16:18.00 | Xinhuan | if blizz fucked up something, its that they made melee scale too well |
| 16:18.19 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77992 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: FuBar2Broker: Now works as replacement for FP |
| 16:18.49 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77993 10Baldrick/Baldrick.toc: |
| 16:18.49 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
| 16:18.49 | CIA-44 | - Was missing ButtonFacade from optionaldeps |
| 16:20.03 | Xinhuan | moonkin's aura isn't something people are going to be in range of some of the time, given a lot of movement in sunwell fights |
| 16:20.36 | vithos | i hate the ranges on totems/auras :( |
| 16:20.45 | Mytos | i think they need to stop making so many legendaries for melee that are easy to get, and stop making the caster ones so retardedly hard |
| 16:21.22 | Mytos | and xin, its the same for totems dude, unless that shamans enhancement, him dropping windfury is useless |
| 16:21.42 | profalbert | ag?`: so how does this FuBar2Broker work now... should I replace LibFuBarPlugin by FuBar2Broker? |
| 16:21.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Mytos: what caster "legendarieS" ? |
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| 16:22.11 | Xinhuan | you understand that the boss hit box is usually small enough that most melee are almost 100% gauranteed to be in range of each other |
| 16:22.29 | Mytos | well, the aitesh is still nice when your talking t4, but it was so retardedly hard to get all the stuff to make the thing, my mage still has 10 splinters in his bank we never did get the frame to drop |
| 16:22.30 | nevcairiel | our locks usually out-dps the melee |
| 16:23.01 | nevcairiel | Didnt you need like 40 splinters and you get a guaranteed frame drop then? |
| 16:23.03 | nevcairiel | or something? |
| 16:23.18 | Mytos | yeah xin, but ive seen quite a few guilds that dont have a geared enough enhance shaman so they make an ele sham drop windfury and hes not even near the melee half the fight |
| 16:23.25 | Xinhuan | frame is a quest item, 100% drop, you need to start the quest first from combining 40 splinters |
| 16:23.36 | vithos | rofl, elemental shaman dropping windfury? |
| 16:23.49 | Xinhuan | a totem can be dropped in range of melee |
| 16:23.58 | Xinhuan | but a player's position is way too mobile |
| 16:24.02 | selckin | refresh every 2min is stupid tho |
| 16:24.05 | ZealotOnAStick | my point is, you incorectly used an inclusive plural. There's only been one caster legendary ever (discounting the temporary Kael'thas fight weapons). |
| 16:24.06 | Mytos | doesnt mean that shamans gonna be smart enough to drop it near them |
| 16:24.15 | nevcairiel | we usually dont take melees to brutallus if we dont have a enhance shaman :P |
| 16:24.19 | Xinhuan | then you have a silly shaman :) |
| 16:24.24 | Xinhuan | might as well not bother |
| 16:24.27 | sb | *cry* |
| 16:24.28 | Xinhuan | if he doesn't drop it in range |
| 16:24.30 | sb | realmpool down :/ |
| 16:24.31 | ZealotOnAStick | We've got 1 Atiesh in guild. It gets used on very, very rare occasion for a quickie KZ port, but that's largely unnecessary. |
| 16:24.36 | Mytos | but if you wanna be technical, its 4 different staffs dude, just depends on who gets the shards |
| 16:25.24 | Mytos | im on tichondrius, its the biggest oxymoron of a realm ive ever seen |
| 16:25.48 | selckin | we had 39 when we stopped raiding naxx, was so funny |
| 16:25.51 | ZealotOnAStick | if it's possible for someone to hold more than 1 Atiesh at a time, then I'll concede your point. Let me know when that happens. |
| 16:26.08 | Mytos | one of the highest pops, 3 guilds in the top 60 of the US, and some of the best pvpers in the game, but 99.9% of the realm is retarded and cant get past ssc and tk |
| 16:26.49 | ZealotOnAStick | it's probably slightly less than 99.9% to be really truthful . . . but that's most of the entire population of WoW to be honest. |
| 16:27.02 | Xinhuan | check out Blackrock then :) at least 25 guilds have killed Illidan |
| 16:27.07 | Mytos | if its less its a very small bit less |
| 16:27.13 | nevcairiel | illidan is not hard :P |
| 16:27.15 | Xinhuan | and of those 25, about 17 have killed Brutallus |
| 16:28.08 | ZealotOnAStick | I wish all of our members would show the fuck up consistently so we can stop banging our head against M'uru with not-quite-adequate raid compositions. |
| 16:28.12 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, have to get more tactics going that we kill twins before Xinhuan's crazy guild |
| 16:28.22 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:28.23 | Mytos | heck, id even go feral if i could find a decent guild smart enough to realise that feral isnt useless after t4 |
| 16:28.25 | Xinhuan | the race is on nevcairiel! |
| 16:28.37 | Stanzilla | we will beat you :P |
| 16:28.56 | sb | Mytos: tanking? no, not useless :p |
| 16:28.59 | sb | dpsing? well... :p |
| 16:29.03 | nevcairiel | you already had a week |
| 16:29.21 | nevcairiel | ferals are actually decent tanks |
| 16:29.26 | nevcairiel | wonder why some guilds dont realize that |
| 16:29.43 | nywef | <- tank BT |
| 16:29.48 | fewyn | tanks* |
| 16:29.52 | selckin | and still good dps when not tanking |
| 16:30.01 | vithos | there are guilds that don't use feral druids? wtf |
| 16:30.09 | fewyn | they are insane if they don't |
| 16:30.13 | fewyn | we generate crazy threat |
| 16:30.30 | Mytos | ive acctually gotten told this, and tell me if im the only one that thinks this is messed up, on kael i get told i cant have the caster chest because moonkins HAVE to wear leather, then im not allowed a chance at the tier because only warriors can tank in hyjal and bt |
| 16:30.45 | fewyn | stupid |
| 16:30.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Get a guild with less stupid leadership. |
| 16:31.13 | fewyn | whoever told you that needs to go fall into a dumpster and then set said dumpster on fire |
| 16:31.31 | ZealotOnAStick | However, any laser chicken aspirations you have for gearing should properly be secondary to all actual cloth dps caster gear needs. |
| 16:32.15 | nevcairiel | we had a feral tank pretty much every encounter in mh or bt |
| 16:32.16 | selckin | get some dkp and then main > trial > offspec > alt |
| 16:32.18 | nevcairiel | just for the fun of it |
| 16:32.32 | selckin | end of discution |
| 16:32.34 | Mytos | all the casters already had the chest or better, we had bad droprates witht he defender tokens on kael |
| 16:32.39 | nevcairiel | only RoS is a warrior thing with spell reflect |
| 16:32.56 | selckin | nevcairiel: illidan too |
| 16:33.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Helpful on Illidan too, but not absolutely necessary. |
| 16:33.03 | nevcairiel | oh yeah |
| 16:33.05 | nevcairiel | Illidan too |
| 16:33.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh. |
| 16:33.09 | ZealotOnAStick | nev, xin . . . |
| 16:33.13 | ZealotOnAStick | about Petrify. |
| 16:33.14 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 16:33.22 | ZealotOnAStick | I talked to our tank. |
| 16:33.39 | ZealotOnAStick | He had unkind things to say about your opinions that we just weren't handling it properly, then explained to me . . . |
| 16:33.44 | Mytos | i just think its stupid that im undergeared and outdpsing their top dps, and they wont even let me app |
| 16:33.56 | ZealotOnAStick | that even if Petrify is spell reflected (and he's NOT stunned) the aggro drop still happens. |
| 16:33.58 | Xinhuan | i didn't say/claim you were handling it incorrectly |
| 16:34.00 | Xinhuan | it was someone else |
| 16:34.13 | Xinhuan | i merely wanted a 2nd person/guild to support your claim that it is an aggro wipe |
| 16:34.42 | ZealotOnAStick | s/your/the/ |
| 16:34.53 | ZealotOnAStick | bah, only last. |
| 16:35.29 | ZealotOnAStick | I haven't bothered trying to get a log of a shatter resist yet, we didn't do crap productive this weekend. |
| 16:35.41 | ZealotOnAStick | except farm illidan. |
| 16:35.58 | vithos | blarg, i think it's time to reinstall windows. every time i shutdown, all running apps crash instead of exiting |
| 16:36.00 | ZealotOnAStick | finally got another skull to drop, though we're now at 34 kills and only 1 set of glaives. |
| 16:36.32 | ZealotOnAStick | So, anyway . . . Reflected Petrify, no Stun, still an aggro drop. |
| 16:36.32 | selckin | we're at 38 kills, 9 glaives, 1 skull, 1 healing trinket |
| 16:36.35 | selckin | eat that |
| 16:36.43 | ZealotOnAStick | trade you? |
| 16:36.47 | selckin | please! |
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| 16:37.00 | Xinhuan | this guild on barthilas, has 9 killed and 7 glaives. eat that |
| 16:37.02 | selckin | we get notting but protector tokens too |
| 16:37.10 | ZealotOnAStick | 34, 2 glaives (1 exact set), 5 skills . . . maybe 2 trinkets. |
| 16:37.13 | Xinhuan | they are selling glaives at 35k |
| 16:37.23 | ZealotOnAStick | s/skills/skulls/ |
| 16:37.23 | nevcairiel | we have alot of trinkets |
| 16:37.30 | nevcairiel | only 2 oh glaives/1 mh |
| 16:37.33 | vithos | rofl only 35k? |
| 16:38.00 | vithos | we sell za runs for 12k |
| 16:38.01 | ZealotOnAStick | 35k is a lot of sunwell wipeage. |
| 16:38.18 | selckin | for a bear? |
| 16:38.21 | ZealotOnAStick | some folks in our guild as an independent thing sell bears for 9k. |
| 16:38.26 | vithos | yes |
| 16:38.26 | ZealotOnAStick | 1k per. |
| 16:38.31 | selckin | lol, who would pay that :\ |
| 16:38.35 | vithos | lots of people. |
| 16:38.49 | selckin | gold is kinda useless, everyone has tons, but still |
| 16:38.51 | nevcairiel | some guy in my guild does that too |
| 16:38.51 | vithos | someone every 3 days |
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| 16:40.22 | ZealotOnAStick | I keep AH whoring, though it's been less consistent since I started this job. |
| 16:40.34 | ZealotOnAStick | My aim it to get to around 25k or so before I call it good. |
| 16:40.39 | selckin | i have 48k gold, stopped all efforts to get more |
| 16:40.53 | selckin | never ever really tried to make gold |
| 16:40.54 | ZealotOnAStick | When WotLK kicks up, I want to just be able to buy anything I need and not be concerned about it. |
| 16:40.56 | Stanzilla | ag`: with the latest Fubar2broker just method "update" is missing |
| 16:41.00 | Mytos | i was ah whoring, but now everybodys gouging prices for the stupid 22slot bags in next patch |
| 16:41.17 | ZealotOnAStick | what do those need/take? |
| 16:41.34 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77995 10Fortress/Options.lua: |
| 16:41.34 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 16:41.34 | CIA-44 | - enable/disable works again |
| 16:41.37 | nevcairiel | alot of gold |
| 16:41.38 | profalbert | 1200g? |
| 16:41.43 | Mytos | 1.3k from a vendor in shat |
| 16:41.43 | nevcairiel | its a paris hilton bag, ffs! |
| 16:41.50 | nevcairiel | er, haris pilton! :) |
| 16:41.53 | selckin | started buying stupid stuff to waste gold, like shatterd sun title, cenarion mount, rerolling profession for ring enchants and back |
| 16:42.03 | ag` | Stanzilla, I'll add it |
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| 16:42.43 | ZealotOnAStick | oh. Those are unique, aren't they? |
| 16:43.01 | profalbert | don't think so |
| 16:43.04 | vithos | yeah next patch needs to hit already. going to buy all 22 slot bags, plus 3:2 rotation won't fail when using kill command! |
| 16:43.07 | vithos | they're not unique |
| 16:43.10 | ZealotOnAStick | . . . |
| 16:43.30 | nevcairiel | yay money sinks |
| 16:43.37 | ZealotOnAStick | hmm. Is 6 slots worth 3600 gold to me? |
| 16:43.55 | Mytos | why would the make em unique, theyre trying to make money sinks before wotlk so people dont go into it with 50k each |
| 16:43.56 | vithos | it is to me, i carry around so many consumables for raiding it's disgusting |
| 16:43.57 | profalbert | I know people with 100k+ gold, and they also are raiding |
| 16:44.02 | vithos | i can't even carry my pvp gear with me |
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| 16:44.58 | sacarasc | selckin: nice one on the ring enchants, i commend you highly for that |
| 16:45.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I want my damn backpack upgraded. |
| 16:45.26 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got 3 20 slotters and a my shard bag, then just 16 in backpack. |
| 16:45.40 | vithos | seriously |
| 16:45.47 | vithos | fuck the backpack |
| 16:46.45 | Mytos | yea, id love to upgrade the backpack |
| 16:47.19 | Xinhuan | i'm using all 18slotters despite having 150k gold ;p |
| 16:47.37 | CIA-44 | 03Copystring * r77996 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 16:47.37 | CIA-44 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 16:47.37 | CIA-44 | - enable Timestamps for all events |
| 16:47.40 | Fisker- | only stupid people buys the new 22 slotters |
| 16:47.46 | Fisker- | gonna be pretty cheap in wotlk |
| 16:47.47 | Fisker- | obviously |
| 16:48.05 | ZealotOnAStick | thing that annoys me about the 22 slotters, is they're all uneven. 2 slots of wasted space. |
| 16:48.11 | ZealotOnAStick | this is something I only care about on my Warlock. |
| 16:48.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I use Bagnon on all my other chars. |
| 16:48.37 | ZealotOnAStick | but my lock is also my only char I'm really hurting for room on. |
| 16:49.00 | Mytos | i dont think it will be, i think if the economy keeps goin like it does they might up prices for other stuff to make us lose gold and drop the prices on ah |
| 16:49.49 | Mytos | i could seriously see them raising the prices of repairs to make people spend money |
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| 16:51.20 | vithos | Fisker-: sure, it'll be cheap in wotlk. but what else am i going to do with 30k gold? |
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| 16:51.51 | Dashkal | Buy things from Haris Pilton |
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| 16:52.14 | laeg | is there a mod that will give my mailbox more buffer space? |
| 16:52.33 | CIA-44 | 03ckknight * r77997 10Cartographer/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 16:52.33 | CIA-44 | Cartographer - Disable pointless modules if Cart3 is detected (GroupColors, Coordinates, GuildPositions, Battlegrounds) |
| 16:52.33 | CIA-44 | - Implemented a neutral waypoint API if Cart3 is not detected. Note: This API may change and thus is not published yet. |
| 16:53.30 | ZealotOnAStick | laeg: what do you mean by "buffer space?" |
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| 16:54.06 | Vulcanus | so what happened to ackis' addons since there's a note saying "re-added addons by ackis"? |
| 16:54.20 | Dashkal | Did he cool down and put them back? |
| 16:54.36 | Vulcanus | why were they removed |
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| 16:55.03 | ZealotOnAStick | stupid drama related to poor choice of term and someone's tighty whities being too bunched. |
| 16:55.08 | Aeyan | He removed them |
| 16:55.25 | Vulcanus | how about less cryptic more details :p |
| 16:55.41 | Aeyan | Meh |
| 16:56.01 | Aeyan | He had an argument with some other devs in here, got mad, and removed his addons |
| 16:56.03 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r77998 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.lua: FuBar2Broker: Added some updates |
| 16:56.06 | Aeyan | Apparently he changed his mind |
| 16:56.29 | Xinhuan | tekkub technically isn't a wowace dev |
| 16:56.34 | Vulcanus | it was funkeh who added ARL back, dunno more |
| 16:56.43 | Aeyan | Didn't say wowace dev =P |
| 16:56.46 | ZealotOnAStick | he got banned largely because he chose an unfortunate word to use in reference to someone specific rather than something less specifically sensitive like "you blithering idiotic asshat" |
| 16:56.51 | Aeyan | He's still an addon developer |
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| 16:57.25 | ckknight | who got largely banned? |
| 16:57.30 | Dashkal | Ackis |
| 16:57.33 | ckknight | oh |
| 16:57.35 | ckknight | when was this? |
| 16:57.37 | Dashkal | You missed that drama |
| 16:57.39 | Dashkal | Friday? |
| 16:57.46 | Dashkal | Or was it thurs? |
| 16:57.55 | Vulcanus | maybe I have logs of it |
| 16:57.57 | ckknight | I was quite sick Thursday |
| 16:58.08 | Dashkal | ouch, that explains why you were missing. Feeling better now I hope? |
| 16:58.17 | ckknight | yea, food poisoning |
| 16:58.23 | ckknight | also, I went to a wedding over the weekend |
| 16:58.26 | Dashkal | owwwwwwww |
| 16:58.48 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, she surprised him. |
| 16:58.51 | Xinhuan | tekkub did like 20 commits at the same time with a git push, and pretty much spammed the channel, they argued about the double standards since wowace rules says to spread out commits so it doesn't spam the channel |
| 16:58.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Told him it was going to be a ferret roast. |
| 16:59.04 | ckknight | ~logs |
| 16:59.05 | purl | rumour has it, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 16:59.25 | Dark_Elf | dang i missed the fireworks lol |
| 16:59.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Then there was argument, Ackis used the term "faggot" . . . |
| 16:59.43 | sacarasc | faggots are nice |
| 16:59.44 | ZealotOnAStick | and given that it was tekkub, (so I'm told, if I'm wrong, don't blame me) . . . |
| 17:00.07 | ZealotOnAStick | there was somewhat understandable specific ire. |
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| 17:00.17 | Dashkal | oh that's what actually set it off? I missed that |
| 17:00.27 | sacarasc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot_%28food%29 <-- yummy |
| 17:00.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I think it's a fairly stupid thing, it's passed, and he shouldn't be banned. |
| 17:00.45 | Dashkal | But then, that word does get used in my vent chat and those of that persuasion in my guild don't really care |
| 17:00.46 | ZealotOnAStick | but who am I, eh? |
| 17:01.09 | Vulcanus | yeah I have logs of it, reading it now |
| 17:01.13 | ag` | Stanzilla, is it working now? |
| 17:01.14 | ckknight | reading the logs now |
| 17:01.38 | ckknight | really, I don't see how Tekkub being the way he is connected to his usage of git |
| 17:01.39 | ckknight | but that's just me |
| 17:01.42 | ckknight | cause I use git |
| 17:01.50 | ckknight | and I'm quite straight |
| 17:01.57 | ZealotOnAStick | ahh. Those checking logs, if it's not as it was explained to me, please do explain and correct. |
| 17:01.59 | Stanzilla | ag`: I still have statblockscore and it's not working but I get no errors, installing fortress now |
| 17:02.06 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: lol. |
| 17:02.10 | Dashkal | rofl |
| 17:02.18 | ckknight | granted, I do think that spamming the channel is rather dickish |
| 17:02.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, there is the question of those disturbing ballmer dreams. |
| 17:02.22 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 17:02.30 | ckknight | hey, that was Kolie taking it up the rear, not me |
| 17:02.33 | Xinhuan | tekkub was a bit way too defensive |
| 17:02.39 | ZealotOnAStick | your fantasy, though. |
| 17:02.40 | ag` | Stanzilla, it works for me now (do you use WAU or SVN?) |
| 17:02.44 | Xinhuan | he did spam the channel, but its not very controllable due to git |
| 17:02.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 17:02.52 | Dashkal | It was a stupid fight. |
| 17:02.53 | ckknight | Xinhuan: he wrote the CIA script for git. |
| 17:02.56 | ZealotOnAStick | I think that makes you a homovoyeur? |
| 17:03.00 | Xinhuan | ya i'm aware |
| 17:03.00 | ckknight | lol |
| 17:03.04 | Stanzilla | ag`: svn |
| 17:03.06 | Vulcanus | there was 35 lines of tourguide spam |
| 17:03.27 | ZealotOnAStick | what, did he do like a massive push at once? |
| 17:03.34 | Dashkal | zoas: yep |
| 17:03.36 | Vulcanus | no, multiple ones |
| 17:03.48 | Vulcanus | Ill pastey them, sec |
| 17:03.50 | ckknight | okay, from what I can tell of the logs, I don't think Ackis deserved a ban |
| 17:03.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Then he deserves to be thrashed. |
| 17:03.54 | ckknight | a good talking to, yes |
| 17:03.59 | Dashkal | If I read the log right, it was a push of a good stack of commits |
| 17:04.06 | Dark_Elf | so where does Ackis hang out now? |
| 17:04.13 | ckknight | and he should apologize for any misspoken words |
| 17:04.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Vulcanus: multiple pushes, or one push, which consisted of a bunch of commits? |
| 17:04.22 | ag` | which addons did he make |
| 17:04.26 | Vulcanus | sec |
| 17:04.41 | ZealotOnAStick | ag`: whom, Ackis? |
| 17:04.49 | Vulcanus | ZealotOnAStick: http://pastey.net/90851 |
| 17:05.02 | ag` | ZealotOnAStick, yeah |
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| 17:05.42 | ag` | brb Stanzilla, dinnar inc |
| 17:05.58 | Vulcanus | he makes AckisRecipeList which I hope will soon inherit the earth from RecipeRadar which is a buggy PoS |
| 17:06.08 | Stanzilla | ag`: kk, raiding now anyway :O |
| 17:06.17 | Vulcanus | and if this means development stopped (either on this site or in total) imma be mighty annoyed |
| 17:06.57 | Vulcanus | what I dont understand is why git can't just report commits in the same way SVN does. |
| 17:07.17 | Xinhuan | cos git uses a distributed system |
| 17:07.27 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm fairly certain he's still doing stuff on CF. |
| 17:07.33 | ZealotOnAStick | I think he should be unbanned and yelled at. |
| 17:07.40 | Xinhuan | you can commit stuff to a "local" repository |
| 17:07.57 | Xinhuan | then do all the small commits as one large commit to the actual repository |
| 17:08.24 | kaiden | back |
| 17:08.44 | Vulcanus | well if gitbot can't report in the same way svnbot does, then IMO it should be banished to a reporting channel |
| 17:09.04 | Xinhuan | that's what tekkub disagrees with |
| 17:09.14 | charon | Vulcanus: it easily could, but the issue is that people tend to push entire batches of commits with git |
| 17:09.20 | charon | like 10 or 20 at a time |
| 17:09.21 | Xinhuan | he said he'll mvoe his reporting bot only if the wowace one is also moved |
| 17:09.26 | Dark_Elf | should of seen it last night with the new lib added to the addons lol |
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| 17:10.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 17:10.13 | Dark_Elf | ugh oh |
| 17:10.17 | Vulcanus | well, this is #wowace, not #github =/ and isn't there already a restriction on the commit lines being reported by cia? |
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| 17:10.22 | Vulcanus | oshi |
| 17:10.45 | charon | on the lines of the commit message, but not on the number of commits |
| 17:10.53 | charon | (probably) |
| 17:11.44 | Vulcanus | iono, and it doesn't really affect me too much, I just think this channel should be for WoWAce SVN commit logs if at all. |
| 17:13.01 | Snago | yeah, he should make it spam #wowuidev-commits instead... |
| 17:13.43 | Xinhuan | should he even have ops? he actively left ace2, etc ~_~ |
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| 17:14.29 | Dashkal | points at the + rather than a @ next to the name on the left... |
| 17:15.10 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Dashkal] by ckknight |
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| 17:15.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Dashkal] by ckknight |
| 17:15.14 | ckknight | :-P |
| 17:15.19 | Dashkal | :p |
| 17:15.37 | Vulcanus | OEGM POWAR ABUSES |
| 17:15.45 | ckknight | yea |
| 17:16.14 | CIA-44 | 03diablohu * r77999 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 17:16.14 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:16.14 | CIA-44 | - |
| 17:16.23 | Vulcanus | commit message fail |
| 17:17.24 | Cairenn | and the ban was lifted later after ackis and I had a chance to talk and get it sorted out |
| 17:17.52 | laeg | ZealotOnAStick: by needing more mailbox buffer space i mean i need there to be more mails able to be visible at one time |
| 17:18.07 | Dashkal | You know it's been a slow weekend when this has been the conversation topic for days... |
| 17:18.12 | laeg | i have hundreds of auctions returning to me everyday from the AH and i can only see about 56 at one time |
| 17:18.18 | Xinhuan | laeg: server only sends the first 50 |
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| 17:18.29 | laeg | so i'm stuck having to take stuff i'm not going to auction to an alt |
| 17:18.30 | Xinhuan | you may post a suggestion on the blizzard suggestion forums to increase it |
| 17:18.34 | laeg | and back to the alt etc etc |
| 17:18.47 | laeg | Xinhuan: do they act on suggestions much? |
| 17:18.54 | Xinhuan | usually no, but it doesn't hurt to post |
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| 17:19.42 | laeg | Xinhuan: cool, i'll give it a shot thanks |
| 17:22.33 | Vulcanus | I don't see how calling a version control system faggot reflects on the person using said version control system, but ok |
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| 17:23.40 | Mytos | thats kinda random |
| 17:23.58 | Dark_Elf | hmm i learned one thing to never do agin in wow. if someone challeges ya to a duel on a boat, dont do it, cause if they hit ya with a spell and it makes ya walk off the boat as it gets ready to leave, your character will disconnect and wont be able to use it again, i suspect this is a blizzard exploit that hasnt been patched yet |
| 17:25.12 | Hjalte | Is there any small addon that'll show me the health of Kalegcos and Sathrovarr at the same time? |
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| 17:29.09 | Stanzilla | ag`: works with Fortress :) |
| 17:29.27 | Dashkal | I've been out of it. What is Fortress? |
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| 17:30.13 | Stanzilla | a LibDataBroker display addon |
| 17:31.12 | Dashkal | ... |
| 17:31.20 | Dashkal | definitely haven't been paying enough attention |
| 17:31.51 | Hjalte | Don't worry, I'm not sure what they are talking about either, and I'm in here most of the time. |
| 17:32.16 | Funkeh` | if it's not working with statblockcore then you've done something fortress biased me thinks |
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| 17:35.08 | Dashkal | Ok, I give. where is LDB hiding? |
| 17:37.02 | profalbert | Dashkal: github |
| 17:37.16 | profalbert | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 17:37.45 | Dashkal | bah, so he isn't using http://git.tekkub.net:81/ anymore? |
| 17:38.13 | profalbert | purl, ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 17:38.13 | purl | profalbert: okay |
| 17:38.17 | profalbert | ~ldb |
| 17:38.18 | purl | it has been said that ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 17:38.20 | Dashkal | danke |
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| 17:52.57 | Gnarfoz | is it normal that the combatlog shows *nothing* for Feign Death? |
| 17:56.55 | CIA-44 | 03profalbert 07Parrot (newCombatLog) * r78000 10Parrot/Data/ (Auras.lua CombatEvents.lua): |
| 17:56.55 | CIA-44 | Parrot: |
| 17:56.55 | CIA-44 | - implement auras and energy-gains |
| 18:00.40 | vithos | Gnarfoz: fd resists only show as a "Resisted." message in the UIErrors frame |
| 18:01.55 | vithos | it probably shows nothing in the combatlog because they were too lazy to make it only shown to friendly units |
| 18:02.04 | vithos | but i'm not positive |
| 18:02.15 | NivFreak | got RoS down last night |
| 18:02.17 | NivFreak | I love that fight |
| 18:05.05 | Gnarfoz | vithos: seems like it's exactly like that. no combat log entries at all |
| 18:05.41 | vithos | i think it shows as a death event to enemies |
| 18:05.48 | vithos | in pvp etc |
| 18:06.40 | vithos | i *REALLY* wish they'd give it proper combatlog events, success and fail per target |
| 18:06.55 | vithos | and fix it so it doesn't silently fail. |
| 18:07.05 | vithos | that spell is the thing i hate most about playing a hunter |
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| 18:10.40 | NivFreak | FD is so fantastic |
| 18:10.50 | NivFreak | It cracks me up to hear hunters bitch |
| 18:10.55 | NivFreak | threatwipe with a 30sec CD? |
| 18:10.56 | NivFreak | wtb |
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| 18:11.21 | vithos | you would think that |
| 18:11.33 | vithos | but i'd rather have a threat modifier than this broken shit spell |
| 18:12.02 | vithos | it causes raid wipes every week when it doesn't resist and silently fails |
| 18:13.02 | vithos | and no, i'm not moving or turning while i do it. it just fucks up on its own all the time |
| 18:13.24 | selckin | can't capture the error frame message with an addon? |
| 18:13.34 | vithos | you can. that's how omen detects resists |
| 18:13.46 | vithos | but it often doesn't detect a resist, and then i pull aggro while at the bottom of the meter |
| 18:14.12 | NivFreak | I'd still take it |
| 18:14.24 | NivFreak | shatter can resist, vanish fails |
| 18:14.24 | vithos | happens usually at least once a raid |
| 18:14.33 | NivFreak | dmg breaks invis |
| 18:14.33 | vithos | i don't care that it can fail |
| 18:14.36 | vithos | i just need to fucking KNOW |
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| 18:16.22 | kaiden | so much violence |
| 18:16.50 | vithos | my raid basically hates me for it, like i'm supposed to know when the game is going to break |
| 18:18.02 | Dashkal | delete hunters imo |
| 18:18.12 | Dashkal | It's the only reasonable solution |
| 18:18.26 | vithos | blizzard should lern2code imo |
| 18:19.02 | vithos | but i agree. if FD was reliable, it would be very desirable |
| 18:19.05 | vithos | it' just not |
| 18:19.08 | Dashkal | I'd be happy if vanish cleared it's cooldown when failing due to lag |
| 18:19.16 | NivFreak | well I look at it this way |
| 18:19.22 | Dashkal | I can accept that latency causes it to fail as it does, but damnit, gimme my CD back |
| 18:19.25 | NivFreak | if you can get 1 out of 10 FDs to stick |
| 18:19.28 | NivFreak | you're not behind anyone else |
| 18:19.30 | NivFreak | so just FD every CD :P |
| 18:20.16 | ckknight | me waves |
| 18:20.39 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 18:20.44 | vithos | that doesn't help when the first or second FD is the one that fucks up, and that's not really an acceptable thing to need to do anyway |
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| 18:21.40 | Fisker- | ,/me scares ckknight |
| 18:21.42 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 18:21.43 | Fisker- | scares ckknight |
| 18:21.46 | ckknight | o noes |
| 18:21.56 | ckknight | I r esceared! |
| 18:22.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Fisker is kind of horrifying. |
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| 18:23.52 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78001 10FuBar2Broker/ (FuBar/ FuBar/FuBar.toc README-INSTALLING.txt): FuBar2Broker: Readded installation readme and fake dir |
| 18:24.02 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 18:24.02 | vithos | you're right that i should FD more than i do to mitigate some of the chances for it to cause problems, just don't tell me i should be happy with it. |
| 18:24.45 | Stanzilla | ag`: oh btw some tooltips show up totally random |
| 18:24.57 | Stanzilla | like..hovering a unit, hi groupfu tooltip |
| 18:25.01 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 18:26.35 | CIA-44 | 03ulic * r78002 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/Vorpil.lua: LittleWigs: Auch/Vorpil: Removed banish until I can see a heroic combat log. |
| 18:27.01 | ag` | Stanzilla, uh lol |
| 18:27.35 | ag` | yeah I know what's wrong, I need to check for the owner |
| 18:30.09 | Tekkub | I still need a naming scheme for my LDB plugins |
| 18:32.19 | profalbert | ag named them broker_<pluginname> |
| 18:32.38 | Tuxbubling | hey there |
| 18:34.12 | CIA-44 | 03ckknight * r78003 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/LibDogTag-Unit-3.0.lua: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0 - Make the check for the mouseover unit a bit saner. |
| 18:36.51 | Tekkub | yea and ag's names sucked |
| 18:38.09 | Tekkub | I'm currently thinking I'll just name things μWhatever |
| 18:38.22 | Tekkub | μFriends, μEXP, μFPS, etc |
| 18:38.52 | Fisker- | Ohµ |
| 18:38.57 | selckin | you'll get too many ppl asking about µtorrent |
| 18:39.06 | Fisker- | NOµ |
| 18:39.21 | Fisker- | wins the game |
| 18:40.55 | DARKGuy | hahah |
| 18:41.27 | Zyndrome | Fµck - Death-announcing addon. |
| 18:41.32 | Zyndrome | ._. |
| 18:42.10 | Stanzilla | fucking umlauts |
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| 18:42.23 | Stanzilla | " μWhatever" < what's that? :P |
| 18:42.35 | selckin | â that way |
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| 18:42.44 | Mytos | anyone have a suggestion on a temperature monitor software for videocards and cpu? |
| 18:42.58 | Kulaar | CoreTemp |
| 18:43.08 | Kulaar | only for cpu |
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| 18:43.36 | Tekkub | âFriends, âGuild, âFPS |
| 18:43.38 | ag` | Tekkub, I didn't name them that, they were already named that when I started working on them :P |
| 18:43.49 | Silviu- | Mytos Everest Ultimate 4.50 |
| 18:43.53 | Tekkub | hrm, I like μ better |
| 18:44.16 | ag` | Elkano suggested shard or datashard |
| 18:44.18 | Tekkub | ag`, and you didn't rename them so I stand by my conclusion of suction |
| 18:44.27 | ag` | slash cry |
| 18:44.31 | selckin | ÄðÃæ«»¢âân· |
| 18:44.33 | selckin | oops |
| 18:44.37 | Tekkub | hrm... shard |
| 18:44.54 | Hjalte | What's up with the trash bugging and despawning in Sunwell? The trash groups route seems to be bugged multiple places. |
| 18:45.12 | selckin | Hjalte: the get stuck around pilars, too much watching pvp |
| 18:45.25 | selckin | Hjalte: gaunlet gets bugged and despawn if you make em evade |
| 18:45.30 | Hjalte | We just had one despawn, does it reappear somewhere? |
| 18:45.38 | Hjalte | a patrol before the first boss, that is |
| 18:46.23 | selckin | we usually send someone in to be sacrificed to rush to commander :( |
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| 18:54.05 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78004 10FuBar2Broker/ (FuBar/ FuBar.toc FuBar2Broker.lua README-INSTALLING.txt): FuBar2Broker: fixed tooltip bug, readme update |
| 18:54.27 | Stanzilla | svn updates |
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| 18:55.07 | Tekkub | PlatonicFriends ... that could work I guess |
| 18:55.17 | NeoTron_ | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai 16264 health with 2/3 imp specced imp and no hter buffs. |
| 18:55.40 | Tekkub | *sigh* stupid addon naming |
| 18:56.06 | breser | Tekkub: Just call it Tek'sGayFriends and mvoe on. :P |
| 18:56.23 | Tekkub | FabulousFriends |
| 18:56.26 | Mytos | what are you tryin to name? |
| 18:56.38 | ckknight | FriendsWithBenefits? |
| 18:56.39 | Tekkub | LDB feed addons, a common scheme for mine |
| 18:56.46 | Tekkub | FWB already exists |
| 18:56.50 | ckknight | dang |
| 18:56.55 | ckknight | ButtBuddies? |
| 18:57.01 | breser | FabulousFriends isn't bad. |
| 18:57.04 | Tekkub | ckk, you got plans to support LDB plugins directly in Fu? |
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| 18:57.20 | ckknight | seeing as I haven't heard of LDB before today, I haven't thought about it |
| 18:57.22 | ckknight | I'm not against it |
| 18:57.24 | Tekkub | yea but it has to work for all of em... FabulousEXP not so good |
| 18:57.27 | Tekkub | also, too gay |
| 18:57.32 | Mytos | FudgepackersWithBenefits |
| 18:57.40 | Tekkub | FudgeFriends |
| 18:57.42 | ckknight | but then it suits you, does it not? |
| 18:58.02 | breser | lol |
| 18:58.10 | Tekkub | ckk, basically it's disconnecting the plugin from the display addon, so that the user could use the same addon with FuBar or StatBlocks or ... |
| 18:58.28 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:58.44 | Tekkub | FuzzyFriends would be better if you wanted it named after me :P |
| 18:58.48 | Funkeh` | I hear that fubr3broker isn't working with statblocks, haven't tested it myself, not sure why |
| 18:58.54 | Funkeh` | fubar2 even |
| 18:59.11 | ag` | it might do now |
| 18:59.25 | Tekkub | fubar2broker is fubarplugins smushed into LDB right? not a LDB renderer for fu? |
| 18:59.26 | Dashkal | Tekkub: I just had a look at LDB... I'm not understanding how it can feed things like FuBar and such lacking standard property names for things like icons and right-click handlers and such |
| 18:59.27 | ag` | but there's problems with the way you do tooltips in statblocks2 at least |
| 18:59.32 | MoonWolf | MVC for addons ? |
| 18:59.46 | Funkeh` | hows that |
| 18:59.50 | ag` | Tekkub, yeah Tekkub, that would be called something2FuBar |
| 18:59.55 | Tekkub | Dashkal, "text" is the only standard, everything else is optional :) |
| 19:00.03 | Tekkub | MoonWolf, exactly |
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| 19:00.17 | MoonWolf | not a bad idea |
| 19:00.19 | Tuxbubling | well anyone knows how to contact wowace forum admin? i can't register an account, i don't get the confirmation email :( |
| 19:00.37 | Tekkub | I know, I need to write up an example "standard" for the fu-ish design |
| 19:00.40 | Dashkal | It looks cool, I was just thinking it pretty badly needs documentation for things like that. Without a standard things could get messy |
| 19:00.44 | Tekkub | but I also need to do real work today |
| 19:00.51 | Dashkal | yeah, that :;p |
| 19:01.12 | DARKGuy | Hmmmm, I'm quite intrigued by this: Does WoW create a polygon/quad for the text, and renders the text on it, or does it make small polygons/quads for each character and lines them up ? |
| 19:01.18 | Tekkub | the standard is simple, don't expect the display addon to support andthing except "text" |
| 19:01.34 | Tekkub | there will be other stuff most will implement, but text is the only required one |
| 19:01.40 | MoonWolf | well, thats up to the display controll in question |
| 19:01.54 | Dashkal | beyond that: even if the addon supports an icon, how would I specify it? Forcibly embed it in the text? How about the click handlers |
| 19:01.56 | MoonWolf | you could have anything between plaintext and cpu eating graphs. |
| 19:02.09 | Tekkub | "icon" "OnClick" |
| 19:02.23 | Tekkub | you could emebd in text if you want, but that doesn't usually look as good |
| 19:02.40 | Tekkub | plus you have to concot it on every time, waste more memory :P |
| 19:02.56 | Funkeh` | ag`, ? |
| 19:02.59 | Dashkal | sounds good |
| 19:03.05 | MoonWolf | omg i have actually said more than 3 linse of text in an hour in here and looked at the forums. |
| 19:03.12 | MoonWolf | people may think i'm coming back |
| 19:03.14 | MoonWolf | *hides* |
| 19:03.17 | Dashkal | Just looking for the "standard" names is all. If supported, great, if not, then they don't work. C'est la vie |
| 19:03.24 | Tekkub | YOU"RE BACK! |
| 19:03.27 | dodga | MoonWolf is coming back! Spread the news! |
| 19:03.33 | ag` | Funkeh`, you don't pass button and frame to the object OnClick / OnEnter / OnLeave |
| 19:03.43 | Dashkal | Just as long as it isn't "OnRightClick" for fubar and "OnClick" with an expected parameter for statblocks or other such issues |
| 19:03.46 | Funkeh` | yes I do |
| 19:04.07 | Tekkub | Dashkal, current design, at least that me and StatBlock use... is text, icon, label, OnClick, OnEnter, OnLeave |
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| 19:04.18 | Tekkub | On* are set directly to the frame's script handlers |
| 19:04.19 | Funkeh` | people told me it was working with SB then suddenly stopped working |
| 19:04.23 | Funkeh` | so you changed something :P |
| 19:04.25 | Tekkub | so you get the frame and button args |
| 19:04.36 | Dashkal | memorizes |
| 19:04.37 | MoonWolf | points at Tem he is coming back too! |
| 19:05.00 | ag` | Funkeh`, line 258-267 in http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/StatBlockCore/LDB/StatBlockCore.lua |
| 19:05.10 | Tekkub | I guess that's short, let me throw a readme into LDB |
| 19:05.15 | Dashkal | ckknight: you getting this for fubar integration? :p |
| 19:05.29 | ckknight | yea, someone else can submit a patch to me |
| 19:05.36 | ckknight | I won't have any issues accepting it. |
| 19:05.40 | Funkeh` | ag`, lines don't help since I changed my copy and the browser doesn't show lines |
| 19:05.44 | ckknight | too much irl stuff and other projects |
| 19:05.45 | Tekkub | ckk doesn't have to do it in fu if he doesn't want, someone could easily make a display that generate fu plugins |
| 19:05.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Tuxbubling: are you using a hotmail account or something like that? |
| 19:05.53 | ag` | Funkeh`, function SBC:Tooltip(_,name,_,func) |
| 19:05.58 | Funkeh` | right |
| 19:06.16 | ag` | also Funkeh` you shoudn't do anything with GameTooltip |
| 19:06.27 | Funkeh` | why not? |
| 19:06.37 | Funkeh` | it cuts more crap out of the plugins |
| 19:06.39 | Dashkal | *crosses fingers* |
| 19:06.48 | Dashkal | I have enough projects going that I know I'll never complete such a project :S |
| 19:06.56 | Tuxbubling | ZealotOnAStick: gmail |
| 19:07.01 | Funkeh` | why have :show() in every plugin when you can have it once I the display |
| 19:07.03 | Dashkal | And I actively prefer fubar (I loved TitanPanel back in the day) |
| 19:07.07 | Funkeh` | imo the display should handle that |
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| 19:07.34 | ag` | The object controls everything that happens OnEnter Funkeh` |
| 19:08.10 | ag` | if it doesn't it would be impossible thave FuBar2Broker for example |
| 19:08.20 | ag` | because it uses Tablet for tooltip sometimes |
| 19:08.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Tuxbubling: you made sure to check your junk mail folder? also, how long has it been since you tried to register? |
| 19:09.11 | Funkeh` | ag`, nothing will happen for :show() if it's using tablet though |
| 19:09.21 | Funkeh` | and besides the point Ive been told it doesn't work at all |
| 19:09.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Tuxbubling: what username did you sign up with? |
| 19:09.29 | Funkeh` | not "tooltips don't work" |
| 19:09.37 | Dashkal | ag`: Is there anyway to tell a mod is avail through LDB via FuBar2Broker? The idea is what happens if I have FuBar for real, some plugins, and a displayer for LDB... |
| 19:09.55 | Funkeh` | ag`, I already pass the frame to the function |
| 19:10.00 | Funkeh` | so I don't even see the problem there |
| 19:10.54 | Tuxbubling | ZealotOnAStick: yeah i checked, since yesterday evening |
| 19:11.01 | ag` | you don't really seem to in SBC.Tooltip on the SVN |
| 19:11.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Tuxbubling: found you, just sent another e-mail. |
| 19:11.23 | ZealotOnAStick | It may take a little while for it to arrive, though. |
| 19:11.37 | ag` | Dashkal, don't use FuBar2Broker if you want to use FuBar |
| 19:11.46 | Dashkal | *nods* just avoid, gotcha |
| 19:11.47 | ag` | it overrides FuBarPlugin |
| 19:12.21 | Tuxbubling | ZealotOnAStick: thx a lot |
| 19:12.35 | Tuxbubling | actually i tried 4-5times to send again the mail... |
| 19:12.43 | Tuxbubling | always showing an error |
| 19:12.49 | ZealotOnAStick | if you don't get it within an hour or so, come poke me again and I'll interrogate you and then manually activate. |
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| 19:15.01 | Stanzilla | ag`: the legoblock external in fortress seems to be wrong. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10839.msg227954#msg227954 |
| 19:15.06 | Stanzilla | I got the same error |
| 19:15.55 | IceGuest_7 | Whats goin on peoples |
| 19:16.13 | Tuxbubling | ZealotOnAStick: ok |
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| 19:17.29 | ag` | Stanzilla, I bet it is WAU stripping externals or something |
| 19:17.56 | Stanzilla | ag`: list the external in legoblock in the toc then :) |
| 19:18.23 | Stanzilla | *for |
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| 19:20.33 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78006 10Fortress/ (Fortress.toc embeds.xml): |
| 19:20.33 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 19:20.33 | CIA-44 | - moved lego path from externals.xml to toc |
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| 19:24.34 | Tuxbubling | ZealotOnAStick: just a question wouldn't have been easier to use same DB for wiki and forum accounts? |
| 19:25.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't know. If I were to make a random guess, I'd say there's different password handling in MediaWiki and SMF, but I could be wrong on that. |
| 19:25.36 | ZealotOnAStick | They were set up before I joined the community. |
| 19:25.59 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * rc947601 10/: Adding readme |
| 19:26.15 | Dashkal | ~ldb |
| 19:26.15 | purl | ldb is probably a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 19:26.16 | ZealotOnAStick | there may also be performance reasons for wanting them distinct, I don't know. |
| 19:26.31 | ZealotOnAStick | you'd have to ask Kaelten. |
| 19:26.31 | Tekkub | enjoy! :P |
| 19:27.24 | Dashkal | nom nom nom |
| 19:28.15 | Madmardigon | you guy discourage complete noob modders? Basically hand holding their way though writing a mod? |
| 19:28.37 | CIA-44 | 03arcanefoam * r78007 10DHUD2/ (6 files): |
| 19:28.37 | CIA-44 | DHUD2: |
| 19:28.37 | CIA-44 | * Fixed the bug when targeting pets |
| 19:28.37 | CIA-44 | * Fixed the bug so font sizes can be changed |
| 19:28.39 | ZealotOnAStick | somewhere in between. |
| 19:28.42 | ag` | people are ruthless bashers around here :P |
| 19:28.56 | ag` | do a mistake and people will hate you :D |
| 19:28.56 | ZealotOnAStick | we'd of course mave to make fun of your name. Why isn't it "Madmartigan?" |
| 19:28.58 | Tekkub | there's tutorials and tons of functional addons for people to disect, we don't need to hold your hand |
| 19:29.37 | Madmardigon | LoL Madmardigon is the spelling of the name off the back of the VHS tape of willow |
| 19:30.34 | CIA-44 | libdatabroker-1-1: 03Tekkub 07master * rb190611 10/: Meh, fuck you textile |
| 19:30.52 | ZealotOnAStick | wow. That's like . . . kitten breads. |
| 19:32.44 | ag` | btw Tekkub, looking at your readme, it is a nono to have a data display addon that shows multiple things, for example memory in use and increasing memory rate, as there's only one label? |
| 19:33.03 | Tekkub | well that depends really |
| 19:33.32 | Tekkub | you could concat all the values together, ala performancefu, or you could just provide a feed for each thing |
| 19:33.55 | Tekkub | in my FPS I only show FPS in the text, and all the other info in the tooltip |
| 19:33.58 | Madmardigon | So is anyone familiar with the DKPmon Bossauction? |
| 19:34.30 | ag` | Well for example if I were to concat memory in use and increasing memory rate together "label" wouldn't work for it |
| 19:34.44 | Tekkub | so change your label |
| 19:35.12 | Tekkub | label's just that title Fu appends on the front really... it's something Funk put in SB, I don't use it myself |
| 19:35.37 | ag` | you can only have one label, but there in fact two numbers that would both need a label |
| 19:36.11 | Tekkub | the label is the "Name" of the feed |
| 19:36.17 | ag` | yeah |
| 19:36.32 | Tekkub | not the prefix/suffix of the data |
| 19:36.52 | ag` | that's how Funkeh` uses them though |
| 19:37.03 | ag` | I'm thinking that in addition to providing "text", which is just the entire string, you could provide the raw data too |
| 19:37.12 | ag` | addons that only need text will just use text |
| 19:37.37 | Tekkub | do whatever you want really, I'm not quite sure why you're telling me all this? |
| 19:37.44 | Tekkub | I only use text :P |
| 19:38.08 | ag` | I don't know man, you just wrote the readme :P |
| 19:38.32 | Tekkub | as a base starting point for you people, a recomendation |
| 19:38.36 | Tekkub | KISS |
| 19:38.41 | Tekkub | :P |
| 19:39.03 | ag` | I'm going to keep everything I make usable just by using text and icon |
| 19:39.21 | Tekkub | which is exactly as you should |
| 19:39.40 | Tekkub | anything on top of that is basically going to depend on what display the user has |
| 19:40.37 | ag` | yep, but that text should include "XP" or "FPS" or whatever, so the text would be "75 FPS" or "1875/3049 XP" |
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| 19:40.49 | Tekkub | yes, those aren't labels |
| 19:40.56 | ag` | great |
| 19:41.32 | Tekkub | label = "ag_Performance", text = "1337 FPS" |
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| 19:42.07 | ag` | the reason I'm talking about this is because I'm confused about how Funkeh` uses label |
| 19:42.12 | ag` | he uses it for "XP" |
| 19:42.23 | ag` | and only the number of XP in .text |
| 19:42.33 | ag` | meh |
| 19:43.11 | Tekkub | well that's how he wants to do it :P |
| 19:44.37 | Tuxbubling | i can't remember what's the /command to hot reload addons |
| 19:44.38 | Tuxbubling | ?? |
| 19:44.49 | ag` | sure, but that just means compatability issues with other displays |
| 19:45.56 | Funkeh` | not really |
| 19:45.57 | Tekkub | yea, and those are going to crop up when you're breaking away from the "one standar for everything" design |
| 19:46.02 | Funkeh` | you still get the number just not the label |
| 19:46.06 | Funkeh` | so it's not like it's invalid |
| 19:46.09 | Fisker- | slaps Funkeh` around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:46.31 | ag` | nope, it won't give any errors :) |
| 19:46.33 | Tekkub | and you can bitch at Funkeh` to put the "Label" into the text if you want it in your display addon |
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| 19:47.48 | ktwo | anyone know how i can raise the name's letter number in grid? |
| 19:47.50 | ag` | if you provide a pure number that could be .info or something |
| 19:48.27 | Dashkal | Tekkub: ok, having read the readme. LDB is pretty damn cool |
| 19:49.38 | Tekkub | that it is :) |
| 19:49.47 | Dashkal | Could you add an explicit license declaration in there somewhere? |
| 19:49.52 | Tekkub | go try Quickie, it does the quicklaunchers |
| 19:49.59 | Tekkub | I put them in a bunch of my addons |
| 19:50.07 | Tekkub | no, I can't :P |
| 19:50.12 | Dashkal | murr? |
| 19:50.25 | Tekkub | there's one on my googlecode page, I'll copy it later |
| 19:50.52 | Dashkal | using the googlecode one, kk. Just need to be aware of these things. So many bloddy licenses... *sighs* |
| 19:51.09 | Tekkub | yes, that's why I hate licenses |
| 19:51.12 | Dashkal | shakes fist at the Ace3 crew |
| 19:51.23 | Tekkub | that and I genrally ignore them and do whatever the fuck I want also |
| 19:51.28 | Dashkal | heh |
| 19:51.54 | ag` | sues |
| 19:51.58 | Dashkal | lol |
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| 19:52.22 | Tekkub | anyway, my license is simple and everyone should know it... my code is open, just don't mirror my shit directly, if you rewrite it, give it a new name, not that "continued revived ressurected" shit appended on the end |
| 19:52.29 | Dashkal | That's one thing I'm not particularally worried about with this community. But I do like to respect an author's wishes. |
| 19:53.07 | Tekkub | no credit needed, no conditions besides don't mirror and rename if you rewrite |
| 19:53.08 | Dashkal | My personal policy is to remain GPL2 compatable without using it myself. BSD-2clause ftw |
| 19:53.29 | Tekkub | I think the moment "legalese" is needed, you've failed |
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| 19:53.51 | Dashkal | KISS can and should apply to distribution rules |
| 19:54.00 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 19:54.13 | Dashkal | This being why I refuse to use the GPL myself. My god that thing is hard to read |
| 19:56.10 | Wraithan | Tekkub: I use the same licence style with my app stuff I have written for home use |
| 19:57.43 | Tekkub | where's the docs for the current FBP at? |
| 19:57.51 | Vulcanus | blows a kiss to Dashkal |
| 19:57.55 | Vulcanus | theres your KISS |
| 19:57.59 | Tekkub | want to see if there's anything else big I should stick in the spec for people |
| 19:58.03 | Dashkal | I feel loved |
| 19:59.44 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: http://wowace.com/wiki/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 |
| 19:59.55 | Tekkub | domo |
| 20:01.14 | Mytos | ok, whos leg do i have to hump to get ahold of voyager dvds |
| 20:01.50 | Tekkub | Netflix's |
| 20:02.16 | Mytos | takes too long to go through the whole series |
| 20:02.33 | Mytos | figure it takes a week to get two sets, itd take me 7 weeks to get em all lol |
| 20:03.09 | Tekkub | rip the DVD as soon as you get it, send it back |
| 20:03.19 | Tekkub | watch the rip while you wait for new disc |
| 20:03.23 | Tekkub | problem solved |
| 20:03.57 | Mytos | still takes a week to get two sets of 3 because of mail time |
| 20:05.39 | Tekkub | well, still it seems to be faster that your current approach |
| 20:05.49 | Tekkub | what's the turnaround on whining in IRC? :) |
| 20:06.16 | CIA-44 | 03rabbit * r78008 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Don't list people from other realms in BGs, and don't list people with 0. |
| 20:11.30 | Mytos | oh, so far about 5 minutes lol |
| 20:13.38 | Mytos | arent you the one that has them anyways tekk, stop holdin out on me man |
| 20:13.52 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r78009 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Vendor.lua: |
| 20:13.52 | CIA-44 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:13.52 | CIA-44 | - Location updates: Ticket 19 |
| 20:13.52 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
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| 20:16.50 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r78010 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc RecipeDB/ARL-BlackSmith.lua): |
| 20:16.50 | CIA-44 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:16.50 | CIA-44 | - Specialization updates. Ticket 21 |
| 20:16.50 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
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| 20:17.03 | cubicool | zomg what UI mod is this? http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n283/Eclipse2219/WoWScrnShot_070508_224508.jpg |
| 20:17.13 | cubicool | (ignore the retarded text please; i found this in a forum post) |
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| 20:20.22 | Snago | :S |
| 20:22.33 | cubicool | Looks like it's called SpartanUI. |
| 20:23.21 | Fisker- | failui 1.0 |
| 20:23.33 | cubicool | haterade! |
| 20:24.00 | NivFreak | meh, too much eye candy |
| 20:25.29 | Funkeh` | ag`, so you want me to pass the name of the block (frame) as the first arg? |
| 20:25.58 | ag` | hi Funkeh` :) |
| 20:26.01 | ag` | which first arg? |
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| 20:26.11 | Funkeh` | for click and tip |
| 20:26.44 | ag` | ah yeah |
| 20:26.47 | ag` | frame, button |
| 20:27.12 | ag` | the object need that to know which frame to attach its dropdown |
| 20:30.21 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78011 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: hopefully fix FuBar2Broker usage |
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| 20:30.59 | Atriace | Cubicool: What's SpartanUI? |
| 20:32.50 | DARKGuy | it's an UI with a Spartan look, it makes you go "THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAA" on your enemies |
| 20:33.25 | Atriace | Is that so? |
| 20:33.48 | Tuxbubling | ZealotOnAStick: still nothin |
| 20:34.08 | Atriace | I actually logged in post-facto, but what exactly are you talking about (link?) |
| 20:34.57 | Dashkal | [13:17]<cubicool>zomg what UI mod is this? http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n283/Eclipse2219/WoWScrnShot_070508_224508.jpg |
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| 20:40.42 | DARKGuy | Dashkal: hey I wanna read the continuation of the convo! |
| 20:45.50 | CIA-44 | 03ckknight * r78012 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix a bug with FuBarPlugin-2.0 support if you're not using the official FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
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| 21:00.42 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78013 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 21:00.42 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 21:00.42 | CIA-44 | - Added support for .info and .label: info is the pure number/data, label is the description/unit. |
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| 21:01.39 | NeoTron_ | there is an unofficial fubarplugin-2.0? :P |
| 21:01.50 | NeoTron_ | I know there's an unofficial FuBarPlugin-3.0.. |
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| 21:02.14 | ckknight | NeoTron: *shrug* it was my guess, it's the only way that error could've occurred |
| 21:02.40 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78014 10Broker_SysMon/Broker_SysMon.lua: |
| 21:02.40 | CIA-44 | Broker_SysMon: |
| 21:02.40 | CIA-44 | - Added support for .info and .label, .text contains both info and label so simple displays works |
| 21:02.49 | Stanzilla | it's probably FuBar2Broker |
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| 21:04.13 | ckknight | likely |
| 21:04.14 | MysticalOS | cartograher_fishing still broken, after like 3 weeks. :( is it abandoned, and if so any new plugin for tracking fish? |
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| 21:07.49 | NeoTron_ | what's FuBar2Broker? |
| 21:09.17 | profalbert1 | MysticalOS: Gathermate works for fishing |
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| 21:13.24 | MysticalOS | ok thanks i'll try that |
| 21:14.21 | MysticalOS | cartographer_fishing module hasn't worked since cart switch to tourist 3.0 since it still links against 2.0. So I've been going without for a while now |
| 21:15.22 | ckknight | MysticalOS: I've also been working on Cartographer3, leaving Cart2 in a bit of a lurch |
| 21:15.31 | ckknight | but yea, I recommend Gathermate |
| 21:15.51 | Xinhuan | technically not your fault ckknight, as those carto plugins aren't by you :) |
| 21:16.21 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:16.34 | ckknight | btw, I just released Cartographer 3.0.6 |
| 21:17.24 | profalbert | ckknight: so it's kind of final? |
| 21:17.41 | ckknight | it's never final |
| 21:17.44 | ckknight | there's more to do |
| 21:17.48 | ckknight | but I have waypoints now |
| 21:18.23 | profalbert | does it still popup on every login? |
| 21:19.19 | ckknight | pop up? |
| 21:19.27 | ckknight | it pops up if you have it open when you log out |
| 21:19.39 | ckknight | I believe |
| 21:19.42 | ckknight | lemme check |
| 21:20.15 | profalbert | it definitly does when loaded the first time |
| 21:20.41 | MysticalOS | does cart 3 support plugins yet though? |
| 21:21.05 | ckknight | MysticalOS: well, in its own way, sorta |
| 21:21.10 | ckknight | I just made a Waypoints plugin |
| 21:21.17 | ckknight | profalbert: yea, that's true |
| 21:22.34 | ckknight | MysticalOS: but really, I don't expect anyone to make plugins for Cart3 yet, it has no published API |
| 21:23.02 | profalbert | ckknight: ah, that was with 0.4 or so I believe, it all works in 0.6 |
| 21:24.10 | CIA-44 | 03thrillseeker * r78015 10ItemValue/Locale/ItemValue-deDE.lua: |
| 21:24.10 | CIA-44 | ItemValue: |
| 21:24.10 | CIA-44 | - fixed deDE-Error: "I scribed" to "Inscribed" |
| 21:25.13 | profalbert | I guess plugins for Cart3 are a lot different, cause it in Cart2/Mapster addons can plugin to the original map, where cart3 replaces it |
| 21:26.08 | erikh | wants a Cart3 plugin that simulates using a spirograph |
| 21:26.18 | ckknight | Cart3 supports 3rd party addons such as TomTom, Gathermate, Gatherer, Routes, etc. |
| 21:26.45 | ckknight | erikh: none for you! |
| 21:27.43 | profalbert | ah nice, so it really becomes an alternative for me |
| 21:28.20 | ckknight | also, you can run Cart3 and Cart2 at the same time |
| 21:28.25 | ckknight | if you want to use Cart2's modules |
| 21:29.07 | profalbert | I switched to mapster, some time ago... those two at the same time look really funny |
| 21:29.38 | erikh | ckknight: :) |
| 21:29.49 | ckknight | I bet |
| 21:31.50 | erikh | ckknight: is cart3 suitable for everyday use at this point or is it mostly dev fodder? |
| 21:32.34 | ckknight | there is one thing that may keep you from using it now, imo, and that's instance loot. Granted, for the time being, use AtlasLoot. |
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| 21:32.48 | ckknight | also, if you don't go instancing much, it would be good for you anyway |
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| 21:33.07 | erikh | ah, I'm still stuck on atlasloot for now anyways |
| 21:33.13 | ckknight | then no issue |
| 21:33.21 | cubicool | Can anyone point me to some usage of AceDB-3.0 in an "embedded" way? (That is, mixed in via NewAddon()) I know it's easy enough to create a new database, this is merely for informational purposes... |
| 21:33.31 | ckknight | but really, I need more people using it, so that they can send me bug reports and feature requests |
| 21:33.41 | Dashkal | Heh, I switched to solo atlasloot right about when I first converted to carto -- before carto had loot |
| 21:33.53 | erikh | that's why I asked, I can probably get a few new people trying it out. |
| 21:33.54 | ckknight | cause really, people's requests have been what shaped Carto3 |
| 21:34.06 | ckknight | for example, I have battleground timers because of it |
| 21:34.10 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 21:34.13 | erikh | oh, very nice |
| 21:34.16 | erikh | needs bg timers |
| 21:34.41 | ckknight | yea, basically, in AB or AV, if someone begins to capture a tower/other thingy, it'll slowly fill up with color |
| 21:34.46 | ckknight | and such |
| 21:34.48 | erikh | cool |
| 21:34.49 | ckknight | looks pretty shiny |
| 21:35.21 | ckknight | for what's missing in BGs is a report AFK thing, which'll be in the next version (or possibly v0.6.1) |
| 21:36.37 | profalbert | is it just me, or is AV-leeching not that much of a problem anymore? I only see 2 pple (3 tops) leeching in AV, I can remember AVs with 15+ afk-s |
| 21:36.39 | erikh | oh, oh man. I just recently acquired a new hunter toon and have been bging a lot to get basic gear.... I hopped into an AV and said at the beginning, "grabbing a soda, gone less than 1m, don't report me afk" |
| 21:36.51 | erikh | got reported (it popped while I was halfway to freakin' galv) |
| 21:36.59 | ckknight | dang |
| 21:37.07 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 21:37.16 | erikh | heh, I got so pissed I just misdirected drek to the healers repeatedly |
| 21:37.16 | Fisker- | ckknight in cartographer 3? |
| 21:37.25 | ckknight | ~cartographer3 |
| 21:37.26 | purl | rumour has it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 21:37.31 | Fisker- | yeah i know |
| 21:37.38 | Fisker- | i was talking about the capture timer thingy |
| 21:37.45 | ckknight | what about it? |
| 21:37.51 | Fisker- | if it was in cartographer 3 |
| 21:37.51 | Fisker- | :P |
| 21:37.52 | profalbert | "don't report me" is kind of ... |
| 21:37.55 | ckknight | yes, it is |
| 21:38.30 | Fisker- | so is it somewhat like cartographer 2 now, just better? |
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| 21:38.36 | Fisker- | or still a long way from a good release? :P |
| 21:38.40 | erikh | profalbert: eh, it at least reduces hte likihood that I'm going to get reported in the < 1m trip to the fridge :) |
| 21:38.53 | ag` | Funkeh`, you there? |
| 21:39.06 | profalbert | erikh: i think it increases the likelyhood |
| 21:39.14 | erikh | eh, you may be rihgt. |
| 21:39.15 | ag` | Funkeh`, I need you |
| 21:39.48 | Fisker- | that's because you're gay :o |
| 21:40.08 | ckknight | ah, he just prefers the company of other men |
| 21:40.17 | erikh | try the navy |
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| 21:41.11 | profalbert | I look at this FuBar_ReportAFKFu thingy after a few minutes, post them to BG-chat and get flamed like "hey I'm here" |
| 21:41.15 | ckknight | Fisker-: it's like Cartographer2 with new shiny features and missing a few things, specifically: Instance notes, Instance loot, Notes, Gathering, and Zone info, all of which can be achieved through 3rd-party addons |
| 21:41.42 | ckknight | but they will eventually be in Carto3 in some fashion |
| 21:42.33 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78016 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 21:42.33 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 21:42.33 | CIA-44 | - added .label and .unit |
| 21:42.34 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78017 10Broker_Clock/Broker_Clock.lua: Broker_Clock: Added .label |
| 21:42.39 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78018 10Broker_Durability/Broker_Durability.lua: Broker_Durability: Added .label and .unit |
| 21:42.53 | MysticalOS | too many addons do same things these days it just uses up more memory, if you ask me |
| 21:43.07 | profalbert | ckknight: for gathering, I kind of like the idea of a third-party-addon. or is there any benefit from redoing it as a plugin? |
| 21:43.31 | ckknight | profalbert: I have my own ideas for it, it won't be how it acts like now, at least |
| 21:43.33 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78019 10Broker_Mail/Broker_Mail.lua: Broker_Mail: Added .label |
| 21:43.43 | ckknight | MysticalOS: you don't use em both together... |
| 21:43.54 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78020 10Broker_PvP/Broker_PvP.lua: Broker_PvP: Added .label |
| 21:43.58 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78021 10Broker_SysMon/Broker_SysMon.lua: Broker_SysMon: Added .label and .unit |
| 21:43.59 | ag` | sorry for spam |
| 21:44.04 | Fisker- | doesn't work completely ckknight :P |
| 21:44.04 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78022 10Broker_Tracking/Broker_Tracking.lua: Broker_Tracking: Added .label |
| 21:44.06 | Fisker- | but cool |
| 21:44.21 | Fisker- | hard to see without being zoomed in alot though |
| 21:44.29 | Dashkal | must resist temptation to troll ag` :p |
| 21:44.29 | ckknight | Fisker-: you're supposed to zoom in a lot |
| 21:44.34 | breser | I'm really happy with GatherMate, unless a new cart plugin is much better I can't see the point in writing it. |
| 21:44.35 | ckknight | also, you can change the size of the map |
| 21:44.43 | Fisker- | i know |
| 21:45.10 | breser | And to be honest at this point I can't imagine what more you could possible do besides do the gathering for someone. |
| 21:45.56 | ckknight | breser: well, I mean to make it so that you'll be completely able to disable the module so that it takes up no memory until enable, and even be able to remove the addon completely, allowing you to use a 3rd party like Gatherer or Gathermate |
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| 21:46.21 | ckknight | and I plan for it to be that way with all modules |
| 21:46.31 | breser | Wasn't that already the case with the old one? |
| 21:46.44 | ckknight | yea, but I'm taking the idea to the extremes |
| 21:46.59 | ckknight | note: I plan to separate Cartographer3_Waypoints into its own addon once I have it working properly |
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| 21:47.50 | breser | Well I like the idea that Cartographer 3 is ditching a lot of the mods that have better separate replacements. |
| 21:47.54 | Fisker- | are you looking into embedding Cartographer3 inside a normal woldmap? |
| 21:47.57 | Fisker- | worldmap* |
| 21:48.01 | Fisker- | as an option of course |
| 21:48.42 | ckknight | breser: yea, that was never the goal, I just want to make it extremely easy for people and push for interoperability |
| 21:48.52 | ckknight | Fisker-: what do you mean by that? have a different border? :-P |
| 21:49.10 | Fisker- | basically yes |
| 21:49.24 | Fisker- | just so it looks like a standard worldmap |
| 21:49.34 | Fisker- | with the new features of course |
| 21:50.04 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:50.06 | ckknight | make a ticket |
| 21:50.39 | breser | I think the ultimate question is, will it be as fragile as Cartographer 2 is. I think Cartographer 2 broke every time someone at Blizzard sneezed. |
| 21:51.29 | ckknight | breser: due to the way I've designed it, it shouldn't have nearly as many problems |
| 21:51.38 | ckknight | also, it being framework agnostic helps |
| 21:52.19 | Fisker- | btw |
| 21:52.24 | Dashkal | Fisker-: post the url when you ticket that |
| 21:52.27 | Fisker- | everytime i enabled cartographer 3 cowtip gets mad :( |
| 21:52.36 | ckknight | mad how? |
| 21:52.42 | nevcairiel | mad cow! |
| 21:52.43 | Dashkal | mad cow! |
| 21:52.44 | Fisker- | oh |
| 21:52.46 | Dashkal | fail |
| 21:52.46 | Fisker- | which may be skinner |
| 21:52.48 | Fisker- | 2 sec |
| 21:52.56 | profalbert | cowtip + cart3 works fine for me |
| 21:53.31 | Stanzilla | ag`: can I turn off the background/border of the LegoBlocks? |
| 21:53.38 | Fisker- | ok madness |
| 21:53.43 | ag` | make 100% transparent Stanzilla |
| 21:53.50 | Stanzilla | k |
| 21:53.55 | Fisker- | now everything just stopped working when disabling skinner |
| 21:54.11 | Stanzilla | icon on/off isn not working yet, right? |
| 21:54.22 | ag` | it will when I commit soon |
| 21:54.58 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 21:55.57 | Fisker- | ah |
| 21:56.04 | Fisker- | it was enchant-woot-o-matic or whatever it's called |
| 21:57.23 | CIA-44 | 03ag * r78023 10Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua): |
| 21:57.23 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
| 21:57.23 | CIA-44 | - label can be turned off/on |
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| 21:59.22 | Fisker- | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/83-option-making-the-frame-look-more-like-the-default/ |
| 22:00.39 | ckknight | Fisker-: btw, if I make a judgement call and decide that it looks better that way anyway, that may just become the default |
| 22:01.07 | Fisker- | fine by me :P |
| 22:01.21 | Dashkal | voted |
| 22:01.48 | ckknight | Dashkal: fixed size? |
| 22:02.00 | ckknight | oh, horizontal vs. vertical |
| 22:02.00 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:02.10 | Dashkal | I was responding to the ticket description |
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| 22:02.27 | Dashkal | So Fisker-: What did you mean exactly? |
| 22:06.34 | NeoRevan | You know you need to bitchslap your ISP when 95% of the messages in a channel is your disconnect messages |
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| 22:07.25 | Dashkal | Get a shell somewhere, install screen/isrii :p |
| 22:07.31 | Dashkal | or ircii |
| 22:07.43 | Dashkal | dunno why I keep making that typo... |
| 22:07.46 | breser | votes for irrsi |
| 22:07.58 | Mytos | wtf, they nerfed the elder saltwater crocolisk!? |
| 22:07.59 | breser | erm irssi |
| 22:08.41 | Dashkal | eh, back when I actually used a console irc client it was bitchX. Worked, and other people on that network used it so I had some support |
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| 22:09.00 | NeoRevan | how and why that shell thing is related to my ISP needing my boot up their arse is a mystery XD |
| 22:09.07 | breser | BitchX was very nice. But seems to have died. :( |
| 22:09.12 | *** part/#wowace CouldItBe (n=cib@ool-45734746.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:09.48 | Dashkal | NeoRevan: the implication was that you could have a persistant irc session that survives your ISP sucking balls |
| 22:09.50 | breser | NeoRevan: Beause if you use screen you never lose connection on the shell based irc client. |
| 22:10.03 | NeoRevan | o |
| 22:10.13 | breser | screen keeps the shell operating and you can just log back in and bring the session back up. |
| 22:10.13 | NeoRevan | Im not nerd enough to understand that thar XD |
| 22:10.26 | breser | Hell you can have a session attached on multiple computers and use the same client. |
| 22:10.38 | Dashkal | That bit is quite a lot of fun :p |
| 22:10.47 | ulic | yep I run my irc in a screen session, it doesn't disconnect very often, and I can pick up the session where ever I am. |
| 22:10.49 | Dashkal | Wander between computers and have the same session open |
| 22:10.54 | breser | And if you're really cool you can even use it as your IM client. |
| 22:11.09 | breser | bitlbee is very very nice. :) |
| 22:11.11 | Dashkal | nifty tool that |
| 22:11.14 | Vulcanus | My Paladin has a shiny sword. |
| 22:11.57 | Mytos | how would one go about doing this daskal? |
| 22:12.11 | Dashkal | Mytos: first, get/have a shell on a *nix type box |
| 22:12.21 | breser | screen -S irc |
| 22:12.24 | Dashkal | Install screen and your console irc client of choise |
| 22:12.27 | Dashkal | then that |
| 22:12.30 | breser | Then start irssi or whatever client. |
| 22:12.39 | breser | If you get disconnected when you get back on type screen -x irc |
| 22:13.21 | breser | If you want to disconnect from the session Ctrl+A then D and log out of the shell normally. |
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| 22:19.29 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r78024 10BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/ (BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.lua BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.toc): |
| 22:19.29 | CIA-44 | BigWigs_KalecgosHealth: |
| 22:19.29 | CIA-44 | - Reset health to 100% on engage |
| 22:19.29 | CIA-44 | - Version bump |
| 22:19.29 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
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| 22:19.56 | Belazor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:23.18 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r78025 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc RecipeDB/ARL-BlackSmith.lua): |
| 22:23.18 | CIA-44 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:23.18 | CIA-44 | - Change some BS patterns to BoP from BoE. Ticket 18 |
| 22:23.18 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
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| 22:30.55 | Funkeh` | ag`, delayed answer, sup? |
| 22:35.14 | Tekkub | is Ackis back, or just too lazy to set up his own svn? |
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| 22:39.47 | ckknight | Tekkub: Ackis is back, I talked to him about it |
| 22:40.20 | Tekkub | he planning on coming back in the channel? |
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| 22:41.18 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: [2008/07/08 00:41:03-1549-x1]: StatBlockCore-2.0\StatBlockCore.lua:266: unexpected symbol near '}' |
| 22:41.44 | Funkeh` | um |
| 22:42.00 | copystring | same here Funkeh` |
| 22:42.07 | Funkeh` | damnit |
| 22:42.15 | Funkeh` | was adding icon support but was unfinished |
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| 22:42.41 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 22:42.41 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78026 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: bugfix |
| 22:46.34 | ag` | Funkeh`, you still there |
| 22:46.35 | Stanzilla | I still don't get any blocks at all with SBC..Fortress works tho |
| 22:46.41 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 22:46.58 | ag` | Funkeh`, what do you think about http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10839.msg228011#msg228011 |
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| 22:48.09 | Funkeh` | .unit? |
| 22:48.13 | Tekkub | I could name my LDB plugins FeedMe* |
| 22:48.17 | Tekkub | FeedMeFriends |
| 22:48.23 | Tekkub | FeedMeEXP |
| 22:48.23 | Funkeh` | Tekkub, go eat |
| 22:48.25 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.34 | Tekkub | you no like? |
| 22:48.39 | Funkeh` | the only reason you thought of that name is because you're hungry |
| 22:48.46 | ag` | Funkeh`, "label" is "durability" or "performance" or "time" or something like that |
| 22:48.57 | Funkeh` | right |
| 22:48.57 | ag` | in .unit I provide what unit my data is given in |
| 22:49.01 | Tekkub | actually no, I just had a big ass Chipotle burrrrrieo half an hour ago |
| 22:49.10 | Funkeh` | half an hour ago |
| 22:49.11 | ag` | like fps or mb/s or percent |
| 22:49.18 | Funkeh` | hungry alrady usually |
| 22:49.21 | Tekkub | plus I cauld make a minipet one and name it FedMeKittens |
| 22:49.29 | Funkeh` | ag`, sure |
| 22:49.57 | Tekkub | Funkeh`, you do not know the embiggenness of a Chipotle burrito it seems |
| 22:50.07 | Funkeh` | no, no I don't ;p |
| 22:50.12 | Funkeh` | but I get hungry prett quick |
| 22:50.20 | Funkeh` | which is wierd cause I get full pretty quick |
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| 22:50.46 | Tekkub | well hrm... how to describe |
| 22:51.08 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, ill test it |
| 22:51.19 | Stanzilla | kk |
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| 22:52.15 | Tekkub | meh, fuck describing... http://www.chipotle.com/ |
| 22:52.41 | Funkeh` | omg tek |
| 22:52.53 | Tekkub | wut? |
| 22:52.58 | Funkeh` | that website is as bad as http://www.spam.com/ |
| 22:53.12 | Tekkub | yea but the food is sooooooooooo good, unlike spam |
| 22:53.24 | Wraithan | Chipotle is AWESOME |
| 22:53.29 | Tekkub | see |
| 22:53.42 | Wraithan | don't have flash 9 on this system to see the website |
| 22:53.47 | Wraithan | don't care to install it |
| 22:53.53 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:53.58 | Tekkub | it's as bad as you'd expect a flash site to be |
| 22:53.59 | Stanzilla | thanks Tek, now I'm hungry :( |
| 22:54.06 | Wraithan | just going to be reimaging it in 20-30 mins anyway |
| 22:54.34 | Tekkub | so then, back to the issue at hand... think FeedMe* is a good naimng scheme for my LDB plugins? |
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| 22:56.34 | Funkeh` | I dislike it :P |
| 22:56.50 | Tekkub | there's one point for it |
| 22:57.10 | ag` | we gave up on one name |
| 22:57.14 | CIA-44 | 03ckknight * r78027 10Cartographer/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Cartographer - only disable modules if Cartographer3 is hijacking the map. |
| 22:57.28 | Tekkub | uhm, you mean one name across multiple devs? duh |
| 22:57.47 | Tekkub | I'm talking about my addons only here, I don't want you assholes using whatever name I use |
| 22:58.48 | ckknight | FeedMeSeymour |
| 22:59.15 | Tekkub | FeedMeTaurens |
| 22:59.18 | Hjalte | FeedMe sounds like a hunter pet addon. |
| 23:00.44 | Tekkub | FeedMeBigBearMeat |
| 23:01.31 | Tekkub | MoteOfFriends, MoteOfEXP... |
| 23:01.39 | Tekkub | nah that one's worse |
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| 23:03.45 | NeoTron_ | what is LDB exactly? |
| 23:03.57 | Funkeh` | Tekkub, make a purl message plix |
| 23:04.03 | profalbert | ~ldb |
| 23:04.04 | purl | it has been said that ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 23:04.13 | Funkeh` | bril |
| 23:04.51 | NeoTron_ | vague enough |
| 23:05.03 | Tekkub | it's a generic lib |
| 23:05.12 | Hjalte | Fortress and StatblockCore are both LDB addons, and should do sort of the same thing, supporting the same modules, yeah? |
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| 23:05.20 | Tekkub | it's basically FBP without the fubar, or anything else.. |
| 23:09.37 | Hjalte | Is there a ldb plugin that displays guild information yet? |
| 23:10.08 | Tekkub | I have friends, guild, exp, clock... waiting for a good name before I publish them |
| 23:10.25 | Stanzilla | ag`: do disabled addon still reserve place? because I can't seem to move 2 blocks together that had one in between them |
| 23:10.26 | Tekkub | oh and FPS |
| 23:11.54 | Tekkub | oh I could go with SI prefixes |
| 23:12.05 | Tekkub | picoFriends |
| 23:12.23 | Tekkub | zeptoFPS |
| 23:13.13 | ckknight | why have a different prefix? |
| 23:13.28 | Tekkub | I'd use one, just trying them out |
| 23:13.29 | Hjalte | It's going to be confusing with all the different names for the same bar system :) But whatever, as long as it's nicely coded I'll use it. |
| 23:13.31 | Tekkub | I like pico* |
| 23:13.48 | Tekkub | Hjalte, it's NOT the asame bar system, taht's the point |
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| 23:14.55 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Then I didn't understand the philosophy of ldb. |
| 23:15.12 | Tekkub | there is no bar system :) |
| 23:15.23 | Tekkub | you're just providing data from your addon |
| 23:15.29 | Tekkub | maybe a bar mod shows it |
| 23:15.38 | Tekkub | maybe something completely different |
| 23:15.42 | Tekkub | maybe nothing at all |
| 23:15.52 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, I can't understand whats not working for you |
| 23:16.05 | Funkeh` | are you using both addons fortress and sbc at the same time or something |
| 23:16.14 | Funkeh` | I tried with violation and it worked fine |
| 23:16.28 | Stanzilla | I have them both installed but only sbc enabled |
| 23:16.41 | ag` | Stanzilla, no, they don't... |
| 23:16.42 | Hjalte | Tekkub: How will you know, what display addon to use with what ldb addons then? Sorry if it's a stupid question. |
| 23:16.45 | Funkeh` | which plugins? |
| 23:16.55 | Tekkub | you use any |
| 23:17.09 | Stanzilla | groupfu, bugsack, closetgnome, bigwigs, bankstack, spygnome @ Funkeh` |
| 23:17.22 | Tekkub | You find one that does what you want, and any LDB plugin can render on it |
| 23:17.35 | Tekkub | you aren't forced to use FuBar or Titan or StatBlocks |
| 23:18.16 | ag` | I'm probably gonna go with Shards |
| 23:18.17 | ag` | not sure yet |
| 23:18.32 | Tekkub | and on the plugin side, you don't have to embed a ton of stuff just to provide a simple text output... you just embed LDB and make a simple dataobject to wirte into like a table |
| 23:19.28 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, I didn't have the latest f2d |
| 23:19.30 | Funkeh` | sec |
| 23:20.47 | Hjalte | Tekkub: All ldb plugins will look the same in all ldb display addons? |
| 23:20.57 | ag` | Hjalte, no |
| 23:21.26 | Tekkub | no, they'll lok however the display looks |
| 23:21.36 | Dashkal | Tekkub: I didn't notice any way for the displayer to notice new data sources. This by design (register at boot then never again)? |
| 23:21.50 | Tekkub | the plugin's just sending text and an icon, maybe a script handler to show a tooltip |
| 23:22.07 | Tekkub | Dashkal, there's a callback for new dataobjects |
| 23:22.16 | Dashkal | oop, missed that |
| 23:22.20 | Dashkal | there it is |
| 23:22.55 | Tekkub | and ideally new DO's should be registered with default fields filled, but some people might register an empty DO and fill it in later |
| 23:23.12 | Tekkub | so the display's gotta account for that |
| 23:23.17 | Funkeh` | wierd, It sowrking with violation but not bigwigs |
| 23:23.39 | ag` | Funkeh`, you did make the fake FuBar folder right? |
| 23:23.42 | Tekkub | rawrking? |
| 23:23.51 | Funkeh` | um, no? ;p |
| 23:23.59 | Dashkal | suggestion: "hide" field in the optional set to allow a source to suggest it be hidden (think pet happiness source visible only when the pet is out) |
| 23:24.02 | Tekkub | <--- is the rawrking of bears |
| 23:24.05 | ag` | Funkeh`, there's a readme in FuBar2Broker |
| 23:24.45 | ag` | I can confirm that bigwigs work |
| 23:24.56 | Tekkub | Dashkal, hrm... I'd rather see it set text = "No pet" myself |
| 23:25.17 | Stanzilla | it works with Fortress but not with SBC^^ |
| 23:25.19 | NeoTron_ | so is FuBar2Broker basically a way to use FuBar addons with LDB? |
| 23:25.22 | Tekkub | FBP's don't conditionally show/hide themselves, could get to e a mess |
| 23:25.24 | Mytos | anyone have a good suggestion on where to pickup a textbook in ebook format, im too broke to buy the book and the online course starts tommorrow |
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| 23:25.34 | Dashkal | That would be what the thing would do just in case the displayer didn't honor the hide flag |
| 23:25.54 | Dashkal | I was thinking more of statblocks with that one |
| 23:26.17 | Funkeh` | is this because of load order issues |
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| 23:26.46 | Dashkal | but fair enough. I figured this was pushing KISS quite a ways |
| 23:26.49 | Tekkub | it's certainly an option... the specs listed on that page are just a suggestion, I'm certainly not going to try to cover every field everyone might use |
| 23:27.40 | Tekkub | I think we should just start with the basic crap there, and see if any more complexities are even wanted |
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| 23:27.51 | aestil | for EBB's to copy a layout from one group to another, what should i expect to be copied? |
| 23:28.02 | aestil | and is the 'group ID' like 'Group 1'? |
| 23:28.20 | Tekkub | I think I'll go with pico* for my addons :) |
| 23:28.39 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: yes it was |
| 23:28.46 | Dashkal | Well, having a "standard" set is much simpler than having each displayer publish "optional flags" |
| 23:28.57 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, did you make that folder? |
| 23:29.11 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: added StatBlockCore to Fubar2Broker.toc and it loads |
| 23:29.17 | Tekkub | yes, and I think the "standard set" should be kept as simple as possible |
| 23:29.20 | Stanzilla | but errors |
| 23:29.24 | Dashkal | but if the displayers "namespace" their extra flags, it shouldn't get too messy |
| 23:29.58 | Tekkub | well yea, but then people have to write in specific cases for specific displays |
| 23:30.00 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: http://rafb.net/p/3m91Pp65.html |
| 23:30.20 | Tekkub | more advanced features I could see, like statblocks_clickabletooltip |
| 23:30.50 | Tekkub | but that's kinda getting into the realm of "you have to have X addon to use this plugin" |
| 23:31.07 | Funkeh` | that looks like ag` is passing bad things as .label |
| 23:31.13 | Funkeh` | which is just bad |
| 23:31.21 | Tekkub | bad ag, bad |
| 23:32.26 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: but yeah...StatBlockCore has to be added to FuBar2Broker.toc's OptionalDeps |
| 23:33.02 | Funkeh` | can't you just collect all fubar plugins after the game has loaded then execute the code ag` ? |
| 23:33.13 | Funkeh` | this loading order is bullshit |
| 23:33.29 | Stanzilla | Fortress is not in the OptionalDeps and works btw |
| 23:33.34 | aestil | damnit, why can't i copy from one ebbs layout to another? |
| 23:33.37 | Funkeh` | because it begins with F |
| 23:33.50 | Funkeh` | and loads before f3d as it is |
| 23:33.54 | Funkeh` | f2d |
| 23:33.58 | Stanzilla | hehe |
| 23:34.57 | Funkeh` | ag`, you need to execute all your code on login |
| 23:36.17 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78028 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar2Broker.toc: FuBar2Broker: add sb to the toc, bad solution to a problem |
| 23:38.16 | selckin | coca cola is godlike |
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| 23:42.01 | ckknight | selckin: all glory, laud, and honor to Coke? |
| 23:42.46 | selckin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.34 | Dashkal | Pepsi > Coke |
| 23:45.37 | Dashkal | Yeah, I said it |
| 23:46.14 | selckin | blasphemy |
| 23:46.55 | Dashkal | And that you use a word like that proves why :p I like Pepsi for the taste, not because of any kind of culture :p |
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| 23:47.22 | selckin | its hard to even find pepsi in my country |
| 23:47.27 | selckin | so big company decided for me |
| 23:47.36 | Dashkal | That would be a deciding factor, yes |
| 23:47.52 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78029 10FuBar2Broker/FuBar.toc: FuBar2Broker: and this one |
| 23:47.58 | Funkeh` | Im a pepsi fan too |
| 23:48.02 | Funkeh` | the normal pepsi |
| 23:48.04 | Funkeh` | max is shit |
| 23:48.08 | Dashkal | agreed |
| 23:48.08 | Funkeh` | 'so is every other one |
| 23:48.16 | Mytos | pepsi is better than coke |
| 23:48.23 | Funkeh` | I wouldn't go that far |
| 23:48.43 | Mytos | cokes way over carbonated |
| 23:48.45 | CIA-44 | 03morgalm * r78030 10Incubator/Core.lua: |
| 23:48.45 | CIA-44 | Incubator: |
| 23:48.45 | CIA-44 | - Fix for 1 candybar being added sometimes after a boss kill if there were still bars remaining |
| 23:48.45 | CIA-44 | - Candybars now resort if a new timer is added that is shorter or fits in the middle somewhere |
| 23:49.24 | selckin | so whats best for the eyes dark/light bg? |
| 23:49.25 | aestil | anyone know offhand the name of fubar bar 1? |
| 23:53.15 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r78031 10StatBlocks_Folks/StatBlocks_Folks.lua: StatBlocks_Folks: bugfix |
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