IRC log for #wowace on 20080705

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00:04.57YssarilEritnull: svn access can take a while to get sometimes
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00:10.17aestilhttp://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/WoWScrnShot_070408_165317.jpg
00:10.27aestilwhat is the 'second' cast bar?
00:10.33aestillower middle of screen?
00:10.47HoferIs there a way to make a simple kind of row and column setup in a frame?
00:11.31Ellipsisaestil: I think that's visual heal
00:11.38Ellipsisshowing the overheal on the target
00:13.05aestildo i need to run that as a seperate mod from the pitbull module?
00:13.23Stanzillaif you want that bar...yes?
00:13.26aestilbtw, i know that UI is completely and totally plageristic?
00:13.34aestili don't want the bar, i want the visual heal part of pitbull.
00:13.46Stanzillathen you just need the pb module
00:16.08aestilthe best part of this ui, so far, is the way i have 5 man party set up.
00:16.10aestilits pretty hot.
00:16.22aestili doubt that its like... novel, but i havn't seen it before.
00:16.24erikhaestil: visualheal is a separate mod IIRC
00:16.33erikhit uses libhealcomm
00:16.59erikhat this point is just trying to get raiders to use libhealcomm
00:17.26erikhif they want to waste their mana overhealing that's fine
00:17.31erikhI just don't want to :)
00:17.36Ellipsisthe pitbull_visualheal plugin uses libhealcomm.
00:17.39aestilwhat content are you doing?
00:17.47aestilcause what i like about it, is that it shows heals are coming
00:17.51erikhright now mostly hyjal
00:17.54aestilnot to avoid overheal.
00:18.13aestilgurtogg/brutalis/twins, you proably aren't to worried about overheal.
00:18.24erikheh, most of our direct healers go "wha?" when I say "escape heal"
00:18.43Mytoswha?
00:19.10aestilif they aren't going oom, it really isn't a problem i don't think.
00:19.15erikhaestil: the problem isn't as much an overhealing issue as a 5 seconds into the encounter "I'm oom"
00:19.16Mytosoh, ive never seen it termed that way
00:19.48erikhwhat's best are the pallies that need 3-4 pots to get through a single boss fight
00:19.54erikhanyways, i'm done griping
00:20.29erikhjust released 2 months of work
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00:20.41erikhand now it's time to get a 6 pack and find something less constructive to do
00:20.46aestilwell, yeah, going oom is stpuid.
00:20.50Mytosnot nearly as good as the pallies that need 3-4 pots, have to have a manatide, have to have a 2nd shaman rotated in for a 2nd tide, and they start demanding an innervate
00:20.53Yssarilanyone have the russian globalstrings.lua?
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00:21.47aestilpaladins getting innervate is nearly the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
00:21.54aestila hunter might benifit as much.
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00:23.12Ellipsiswow
00:23.14Hoferwhats aceDBoptions for?
00:23.19Ellipsissomeone ported controlfreak to dogtag? x.x
00:23.28aestilwhat is controlfreak?
00:23.30erikhheh, that's why I chuckle a little when people make all this stink about mp5 being better than spirit
00:23.32Mytosyeah, i got gkicked last night on archimonde because a holy pally did exactly that
00:23.40Ellipsiscontrolfreak is Tekkub's solution to crowd control
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00:23.58aestilinstead of magic marker?
00:24.10erikh<random shaman>: "can I have innervate"? <me> "no"
00:24.20Ellipsisno
00:24.22Ellipsisit's not for marking
00:24.28Ellipsisit's for actually casting/recasting/managing your CC
00:24.33aestilmp5 is better for pally
00:24.35NechcknControlFreak is pretty cool... 0 setup if you don't want to muck around
00:24.45Nechcknwith just enough options if you want to "fiddle"
00:24.59Mytosyeah, but a pally with all mp5 and no spirit isnt gonna get crap from an innervate, it runs entirely on spirit
00:25.13EllipsisI just find it amusing that someone actually took the time to write it in dogtag
00:25.16aestilintersting point, a pally should never get an innervate
00:25.20erikhaestil: well sure, but these guys gear to burn through their mana as fast as possible and then wonder why I only use innervate on myself and occasionally a priest
00:25.38erikhMOAR +HEAL
00:25.42erikhI love that.
00:25.43erikhanyways...
00:25.48Nechcknagreed Ellipsis
00:26.00Mytosyeah, i got tossed from a guild last night for telling a pally to go bang himself because he got all mad i wouldnt innervate him on archimonde
00:26.04Nechcknsomeone with too much time on their paws  =)
00:26.23Ellipsisit's probably worse that I'm itching to go through and tweak/optimize it....
00:26.24StanzillaEllipsis: link
00:26.37Ellipsishttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6037.msg226766#msg226766
00:27.27Stanzillawhat the hell
00:27.45Ellipsishe makes it look kinda lisp-ish
00:29.25Dashkalthat's one hell of a tag...
00:31.16Hoferwhat is DogTag
00:31.50OdlawBARK BARK
00:32.04Ellipsisa library that uses dynamic tags for displaying information about players and npcs
00:32.05erikhgets mildly amused when people equate parens and lisp
00:32.28EllipsisI said it *looked* that way, not that it actually had anything in common :P
00:32.51Tekkubjust... wow
00:33.07Tekkubthat trumps Kennel >> Ace2
00:33.17Tekkubs/>>/-->/
00:33.33Ellipsiswell, sincerest form of flattery and all?
00:33.48HoferOh neat, GrdiLayoutPlus looks like somefine I was make'n by hand... woot
00:34.37TekkubI guess so... should it be a complement that people who rewrite my stuff only make it worse?
00:34.47HoferCan we add our own properties to GridLayoutPlus aside from Group/Class/Role like say Arena Team Name?
00:35.41EllipsisTekkub: maybe that just means you're perfect and it's all downhill from your code
00:36.08Tekkubwell, as long as the rules don't apply to me if I'm perfect, I guess I won't complain
00:36.36EllipsisI wouldn't, it sounds like you have it pretty sweet
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00:45.10Ellipsiseyes Bruners
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00:48.40HoferWhats the difference between when to use an API or an Event
00:49.52Ellipsisthe really short version: API functions are what you call to do something (e.g. send a chat message), events are what tell you something happened (e.g. you received a whisper from someone)
00:50.08Hoferahhh
00:50.13mjcSO nice to have a dual monitor setup again
00:51.17HoferSo to get the Opponent Team Name of an arena match I might use the ARENA_TEAM_ROSTER_UPDATE, and then use the API GetArenaTeam  to achieve that goal?
00:51.19erikhoh, awesome
00:51.36erikhnow the spammers are advertising anti-virus programs
00:51.50erikhsorry, "anti-virus programs"
00:52.19mjcerikh: crawled out of your pre-millenium hole eh?
00:52.26EllipsisHofer: sounds reasonable enough, though I'm not familiar with that particular area of the API so I can't verify that it will work :P
00:52.26mjcthey even sold that shite in stores ca. 1997
00:52.40erikheh?
00:52.43[Liquidor]What's -v(-1) ?
00:52.53mjcerikh: things like "winfixit"
00:53.09erikhno, I'm talking about phishers
00:53.26HoferEllipsis: gotcha
00:53.34erikhit used to be they'd forge virus scanning emails and your boss sending you doc files
00:53.47erikhnow they're just scraping the bottom
00:53.54mjcerikh: MySpace Official AntiVirus is a good one ;D
00:53.58mjc""
00:54.02erikhheh
00:54.14erikhmyspace is a freakin' virus
00:54.28erikhit's the new-millenia geocities
00:54.29mjcmy thoughts exactly
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00:54.42erikhactually, sorry; geocities pages normally had content
00:54.53turdfurgensonHello, I'm selling my world of warcraft level 70 night elf
00:54.54mjcless porn on geocities too
00:54.55turdfurgensonpriest. Asking 50 dollars. It is an active account.
00:54.57turdfurgensonhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&n=Thust
00:55.06Ellipsisdies laughing
00:55.17erikhturdfurgenson: markeedragon.com
00:55.27mjcplayerauctions is good too
00:55.49kaidenlawl
00:56.06turdfurgensonCAN som1 here buy
00:56.11turdfurgenson50 dollars is cheap price
00:56.14turdfurgensonu can resell it for 100
00:56.26kaidenyou are so gonna get banned :P
00:56.29erikhturdfurgenson: although I'll be honest; no one's going to pay for the modern-day equivalent of a green machine
00:56.41erikhwell if they're smart that is
00:56.57turdfurgensonwhy will nobody buy my wow account?
00:56.59turdfurgensondoes it have bad stats
00:57.06mjcand because you spam
00:57.18erikhturdfurgenson: take it to a forum where people are looking to trade
00:57.22Ellipsisthis channel is not known for account selling, in fact any ToS violations are generally frowned upon
00:57.24erikhmost people in here probably aren't
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00:57.37turdfurgensonaww
00:57.44turdfurgensoncomon this account give me a hunchback
00:57.52erikhheh
00:58.06turdfurgensonwhat
00:58.12turdfurgensonit made me look like a notre dam
00:58.32EllipsisI'm pretty sure you're not going to win anybody over with that argument
00:58.37kaidenyour moms face made me look like X_x
00:58.43kaidenis talking to ellipsis
00:58.44kaiden:P
00:59.06Ellipsisyou've met my mom?
00:59.10turdfurgensonPlease somone buy
00:59.14kaidenyes!
00:59.26kaidenat the mcdonalds behind the dumpster! dont ask what i was doing there...
00:59.27Ellipsisaww, guess tomorrow won't be much of a surprise then :(
00:59.32kaidenlol
00:59.45kaidenyou aren't bringing her are you?
00:59.48kaideni'll bedevastated..
00:59.55turdfurgensonmjc is a freelance journalist
00:59.56Ellipsis...um...
01:00.04turdfurgensonwho lives in florida
01:00.09mjclol ok
01:00.11mjcI write software :P
01:00.12Ellipsiso.O
01:00.21kaidenElli, michael wants to know if you can wait til sunday so we can have time to rent one of those steam cleaners
01:00.24kaidenand make it all perfect
01:00.28EllipsisO.O
01:00.31kaidenif tomorrow is necessary though i can take off early :P
01:00.41Ellipsiswell of course we can wait, it's not like we're in a big hurry
01:00.49kaidenok just checking :P
01:01.05kaidenhas to clean your carpet
01:01.06kaidenhaw
01:01.12turdfurgensonMJC
01:01.13EllipsisI lol'ed
01:01.15turdfurgenson3053 Ainslie D
01:01.15aestilEllipsis is pretty cute, for a midget.
01:01.17turdfurgensonBoca Raton, FL 33434-2911
01:01.18mjcno.
01:01.19turdfurgenson(561) 218-0275
01:01.25mjcnever lived in boca.
01:01.25turdfurgensonmjc has comcast
01:01.29turdfurgensonhis IP is 69-180-107-46
01:01.40Ellipsistell us something we don't know?
01:01.49mjcI live in fort lauderdale, not boca.
01:02.01kaidensomeone got carried away with their visual traceroute program
01:02.02kaidenhaha
01:02.22mjcand I don't have a landline, nor have I ever had a 561 number.
01:02.23aestilEllipsis: i called you a midget
01:02.30Ellipsisaestil: and?
01:02.38aestili was expecting some sort of violent response.
01:02.46EllipsisI've learned to accept my own shortcomings (pun intended)
01:02.51aestilor, are you medicated atm [hides]
01:03.00turdfurgensonYA RIGHT MJC
01:03.00kaidenellipsis, i r getting drunk wifout you!
01:03.04aestili'm trying to get a 'rise' out of you.
01:03.07aestilLOL I MAEK PUN
01:03.13kaideni bought 75$ worth of smirnoff ice
01:03.15kaidenlol
01:03.16Ellipsisaestil: I don't have the right parts for that
01:03.17mjcboca is 35 minutes north of me.
01:03.24aestili was refering to your height.
01:03.33Ellipsisseriously turdfurgenson, his IP doesn't even trace to boca raton
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01:04.00Ellipsis...that was easier than I was expecting
01:04.08mjcyay
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01:04.28mjcand to think
01:04.31mjcI was trying to help him
01:04.33mjclol
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01:04.48turdfurgensonHello, I'm selling my world of warcraft level 70 night elf
01:04.49turdfurgensonpriest. Asking 50 dollars. It is an active account.
01:04.51turdfurgensonhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&n=Thust
01:04.53turdfurgensonDoes anyone want to buy?
01:05.01Ellipsisyou already spammed this channel turdfurgenson, try a different one
01:05.03mjcsomeone get him klined.
01:05.11turdfurgensonSORRY
01:05.13turdfurgenson4got mate
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01:05.22CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77808 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Clock/ (. Broker_Clock.lua Broker_Clock.toc): Broker_Clock: uses LibBroker-1.1
01:05.34CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77809 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Durability/ (. Broker_Durability.lua Broker_Durability.toc): Broker_Durability: uses LibBroker-1.1
01:05.53mjcEllipsis:  fyi though the MIA route for comcast handles boca too :P
01:06.01mjcbut I still don't live in boca. LOL
01:06.09CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77810 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Mail/ (. Broker_Mail.lua Broker_Mail.toc): Broker_Mail: uses LibBroker-1.1
01:06.11Ellipsistrue, but your IP is a fort lauderdale address :P
01:06.14CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77811 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_SysMon/ (. Broker_SysMon.lua Broker_SysMon.toc): Broker_SysMon: uses LibBroker-1.1
01:06.18mjcyeah
01:06.27CIA-4403ag 07Borlox * r77812 10Fortress/Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua): Fortress: uses LibBroker-1.1
01:06.57kaidentrades route to MJC.... i am detecting that you use comcast
01:07.00kaidenand are in fort lauderdale
01:07.03Ellipsishe's a genius!
01:07.05kaidenand your name is Michael J. Cohen
01:07.07kaidenZOMG
01:07.15aestilso, are there rules to how many things you can commit at once?
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01:07.20aestili mean... why does it matter?
01:07.23kaidenyou are also in channels #cakephp #xml #wowace #macports #ffmpeg #mplayer and #git
01:07.24Ellipsisaestil: there's that one called Common Sense
01:07.31mjclol kaiden
01:07.31kaidenisn't that amazing that i got all that info
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01:07.36mjckaiden: and your mom smells :D
01:07.40Ellipsisomg kaiden is a hacker, someone ban him!!!111oneone
01:07.44aestilEllipsis: well, if you have a bunch of stuff to commit, should you like, not commit it?
01:07.47kaidenthat's only because she's dead mjc
01:07.52kaidenwhen she was alive she smelled quite nice
01:08.05mjckaiden: assuming you like the smell of fish
01:08.14kaidenmy father was a fisherman :(
01:08.17kaideni can't help it
01:08.22Ellipsisaestil: what do you mean?
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01:08.45aestili dunno, trying to understand what the commotion was betweek Tekkub and ackis
01:08.52kaidenyay thanks ciarenn ;)
01:08.57kaidenerm cair
01:08.59Ellipsisnudges another cookie Cairenn's way
01:09.02Jaxinewhat's the most efficient way to use a function like UnitStat in a macro? for example, i don't want to do this: /script nil,agi,nil,nil=UnitStat("player",2) .. but something like UnitStat("player",2)[1] ?
01:09.02Cairenn:)
01:09.04aestilanyways, i have to go run some diagnostic on this computer.
01:09.33kaidenEllipsis: you are gonna love the bat cave once we get it done
01:09.36kaideni'm painting the walls black
01:09.44kaidenand putting heat reflective material on the outside walls
01:09.45kaiden:)
01:09.45EllipsisJaxine: if you only need the second return, the most common way to do it is local _, agi = UnitStat("player",2)
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01:10.05Ellipsisyou can also use lua's select() function, but that's not generally any better unless the argument number is variable
01:10.07Jaxineis there a way to use it without using vars?
01:10.26Yssarilanyone have the russian globalstrings.lua?
01:10.28Ellipsiskaiden: sweet
01:10.55EllipsisJaxine: select(2, UnitStat("player", 2))
01:10.55kaidenEllipsis: we put in a cat door already so the cat could get in and out of the room
01:10.56kaidenheh
01:11.02Ellipsisyay, kitteh ^-^
01:11.04kaidenpoor dog can't use it since she can't walk yet
01:12.23Jaxinedoes select index at 0 or 1
01:12.39Ellipsis1
01:14.36Jaxinebase, stat, posBuff, negBuff = UnitStat("unit", statID); .. i'm getting 764,764,579,0
01:14.45Jaxinei would expect 185 for base ?
01:17.11Ellipsisshrugs
01:17.27Ellipsiswhat you would expect and what is delivered are rarely the same when it comes to Blizz's API
01:18.43Jaxinethat can be expanded to many APIs
01:18.49Jaxineat least the ones i've worked with :)
01:19.28Ellipsissome might say that's a defining feature of bad APIs :P
01:20.00Yssarili like to call them dAPI is :P d is for dynamic :)
01:20.31Jaxinewhere the behavior of the API is undefined until you get a support call about it
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01:28.09Yssarilanyone have a problems with http://yssaril.pastey.net/90644? basically all it does(suppsoed to do) is convert the 3 globalstrings into their capture patterns so that i can deformat them
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01:54.25Hoferhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBattlefieldWinner  does this give me a 1 or 0 based on who the winner is or does it just tell me who the winner is?
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02:00.28Ellipsis0 for horde, 1 for alliance
02:00.45Ellipsisor in an arena, 0 for green and 1 for yellow
02:05.00HoferHrmmm dang, I wana capture the team name of the winner.
02:09.19Anduneso I'd like to get heal broadcasts from everyone in the raid..  I see there's HealComm-2.0 and IncomingHealsLib.  Which should I use?  And if people are already using HealBot, is either going to already pick up sync'ing from that?
02:09.50EllipsisAndune: you want to use LibHealComm-3.0
02:09.52Anduneerikh, that is, looking to have everyone install one lib.  pick one, or is one better?
02:10.13Anduneellipsis:  hmm ok.
02:10.15Ellipsisall the others are no longer used, it's finally standardized to the one lib
02:10.24Andunesweet.  ty for the info  :)
02:10.32AnduneHealBot too?
02:10.43EllipsisI believe so
02:10.46Andunehow nice  :)
02:17.47Andunehmm looking at Healbot I don't see any direct support.  Maybe LibHeal picks up on healbot broadcasts?  I'll find someone tonight and give it a test..
02:18.32Ellipsislast I heard healbot was still sending its own proprietary protocol, which LHC will never listen for
02:18.42Ellipsisbut healbot does attempt to listen for LHC broadcasts
02:18.56Anduneah..  damn.  so healbot users (not me) will see my heals, but I won't see theirs
02:18.59Ellipsis(warning: information is quite out of date and may or may not still apply)
02:19.19Ellipsiscorrect, to ensure that everyone sees everyone's, any healbot users should also run LHC standalone
02:19.21Andunewell will just have to get all our healers to install LibHealComm-3.0 then  :)
02:20.09Andunejust getting tired of losing people here or there 'cuz all 5 healers decide to heal the same person.  :P
02:21.16Ellipsisnothing like a big green bar to tell everyone that the heals are covered
02:21.30Ellipsisalthough you might also want to try making sure people have specific assignments
02:21.46Ellipsis(and actually follow those assignments)
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02:23.26Andunelol yeah, unfortunately we have problems with that.  I'm trying to help fix that, but definitely seeing big green bars for other peoples heals is a step in the right direction  :)
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02:26.59Poul|LaptopAnyone happen to have a link to a combatlog.txt for download somewhere, at work and dont have wow installed here :() Would be nice with one from a raid etc
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02:49.05erikhAndune: I'm fairly certain if libhealcomm is loaded heals will be broadcasted without any additional help
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02:54.05Anduneerikh:  yep i'm not worried about that.  I just don't have everyone running LHC - most of our healers already have HealBot installed tho.
02:54.20erikhmeh, weenies.
02:54.48Andunehmm.  ButtonFacade seems to interfere with OmniCC.  :(
02:56.26Andunewell, some layouts do, some don't.  The one I like (Serenity), of course, does.  feh.
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03:00.00Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
03:00.05ZhinjioHappy 4th, folks.
03:01.00Funkeh`bah humbug
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03:03.45CIA-4403antiarc * r77813 10HiveMind/core.lua: HiveMind: Event fix
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03:15.39Ellipsissounds messy
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03:21.34erikhthe bear disagrees
03:21.40erikh... in a cheerful manner.
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03:58.00CIA-4403nemes * r77814 10Chinchilla/ShowHide/ShowHide.lua:
03:58.00CIA-44Chinchilla: Remove "magic number" infinite loop checks as multiple battleground
03:58.00CIA-44queues calls MiniMapBattlefieldFrame:Show() within the epilon. Machine/timing
03:58.00CIA-44dependent checks like this should never be used. If someone can replicate the
03:58.00CIA-44"infinite loop" problem for me, I'll fix it.
03:58.08TekkubOMGSPAM!
03:58.35Funkeh`shut up please
03:58.42Tekkub^^
03:58.51Ellipsisneeds moar chill pill
03:59.00Corgan^^
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04:02.53kenlyric^_
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04:20.08dre^greetings... I have sort of a weird problem, and it's not technically an Ace issue, but maybe you can help... on only one of my toons, /recount show is essentailly a no-op... when I hit return, it's as if it didn't register the keypress... the intput line is not dismissed, and I can never issue the command
04:20.44dre^have tried /recount reset and deleting the saved varialbes for this toon
04:23.54Tenchworksyou may want to ask that in #curseforge and #WoWUIDev since there are some developers that only hang out in certian channels
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04:24.15dre^thanks for the tip
04:24.54dre^I"ll try hand-hacking the account-wide variables...
04:25.17Tenchworksalso while it's unlikely you might have a conflicting slash command, I've never had that issue before but I've seen wierd things happen when addons used the same slash commands
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04:25.45dre^hmm, possible... maybe there is some old version getting loaded just for this toon...
04:25.48Tenchworksthere's an ace addon called Slashconflict that can check if you have conflicts
04:25.54CIA-4403nemes * r77815 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Capping.lua Addons/ClassTimer.lua NShakedown.lua):
04:25.54CIA-44NShakedown:
04:25.54CIA-44- Fix Capping and ClassTimer
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04:26.01dre^but for example, /recount shows the menu
04:26.13dre^almost all of the commands work
04:26.20dre^just not show or toggle
04:26.29Tenchworksand odd problem indeed
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04:41.41Venara~seen ckknight
04:41.43purlckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 2d 5h 44m 47s ago, saying: 'yea, that seems best, sylvanaar'.
04:42.25Venaradamn :/
04:42.55Venaraanyone else bored enough to help me with a little problem? :>
04:43.18Olison~asktoask
04:43.19purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
04:43.32Venaraokay...
04:43.33Venaraso
04:43.48Venarahttp://epochenkampf.lima-city.de/dreamroot/pictures/pitbullnamed2.jpg
04:43.54Venarai happen to have a problem with pitbull
04:44.09Venaramy Player, Target and ToT frame have exactly the same configuration
04:44.15Venarabut they look quite different
04:44.25Venaraand i just can't figure out why
04:44.36Venara(you may have to zoom the picture to see it)
04:46.41KuraxDo people really care about those?
04:47.11KuraxI mean, you even have to zoom to see the difference
04:47.30Venarai'm a perfectionist, i want them to look exactly the same -.- and, ya, you have to zoom the picture because its very dark
04:47.41Venarabut you can see the difference ingame without zooming ^^
04:48.05Venarai mean, to hell with the border stuff, what annoys me is that the manabars look different
04:49.05KuraxMake sure you're using the same texture
04:49.47Venarai am. i had 3 people looking at the configuration. all 3 frames are identical in configuration, but still they look different
04:52.07Nargiddleybecause of the way wow scales things, things being out by 1 pixel like that is very hard to avoid.
04:53.10Venarai know that, but the manabars are not off by 1 pixel, they look like a different texture was used, which just isn't the case
05:00.39CIA-4403cwdg * r77816 10Bartender4/locale/zhCN.lua:
05:00.39CIA-44Bartender4:
05:00.39CIA-44update zhCN
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05:20.10RaydenUniso i managed to take the ClassTimer options window and draw the top section off the page
05:20.13RaydenUninow i can't move it back
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05:28.18Aiianedo /ace3
05:28.24Aiianeand choose ClassTimer in the dropdown
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05:41.06CIA-4403nemes * r77817 10Chinchilla/ (8 files in 4 dirs):
05:41.06CIA-44Chinchilla:
05:41.06CIA-44- Change the name of the "clock" to "day night indicator"
05:41.06CIA-44- Add the new minimap clock, to be introduced in 2.5; this won't appear in 2.4
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05:52.42CIA-44NDragIt:
05:52.42CIA-44- add TimeManagerFrame, to be added in 2.5
05:52.42CIA-44- enable UI Panel offset by default at 10, -10; my addon, so I can set the defaults how I like ;-)
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06:39.49Venaranevcairiel: are you there?
06:43.14Venaraprobably still sleeping :>
06:46.18CIA-4403neotron * r77819 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Fixed another race/sex bug.
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06:49.43Ellipsisthat sounds vaguely sexy
06:49.49NeoTron_lol
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07:29.44Venaradoes anyone know if prat has a "clamp to screen" option or something like this? i'm trying to drag my chatframe to the upper left corner but it just bounces back if the tab goes off the screen
07:31.40erikhno, that's good ol' blizz
07:31.49erikhhad that problem long before I used prat
07:32.23Venaradid you find a solution?
07:35.26Venaraeirkh?
07:35.30Venara*erikh
07:36.25erikh"don't do that then"
07:37.27Venarasucks, i want my chat to be there -.-
07:37.54Venarajust redid my whole UI and the plan was "Chat upper left corner"
07:38.00Venarablizzard ruins my plans :/
07:39.19erikhis there some reason you need to see the tab?
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07:45.06VenaraI need to see the tab in order to move the chat. moving the chat results in *BOUNCE BACK*. if i just hide the tab my chat has like 4 pixels screen distance horizontal, but like 20 horizontal because you just fucking cant move the tab out of the screen
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07:47.22aestilcan this http://ace.pastey.net/90646 be changed easily to use 'secure hooks' whateve that means?
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07:54.46Ellipsiswhy would it need to?
07:54.55nevcairielmorning
07:58.13durcynVenara: does it readjust if you log out and set it manually in layout-cache.txt?
07:58.50Venaradurcyn: didn't try it. but i imagine it would. thx for the tip anyway, i'll try
07:59.05Venaranevcairiel: do you have a moment?
08:00.06nevcairiel?
08:00.36Venarai'm trying BT4 right now and i noticed that the paging doesn't seem to work correctly
08:01.09Venarai have my healign spells on B1 and damage spells on B2. so by pressing ALT i page the buttons from B2 to 1
08:01.32Venarabut the bar still trys to cast healings spells instead of damage spells
08:01.45nevcairielwrong keybindings, i assume
08:01.58Venaranope, i clicked the bar
08:02.17nevcairielthe icon does change?
08:02.57Venarayep, switches, but if i click on them (with a hostile target ofc) i says just "Invalid Target" and so i assume it trys to cast healing spells
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08:04.23nevcairieldid you try targeting yourself to see if it really casts a heal?
08:04.37Venaralet me check
08:04.58Venaratargeting myself it changes to "You have no target"
08:05.37nevcairieldo you have auto-assist activated?
08:05.57Venarano
08:06.09Diaoprobably blizz's behavior of
08:06.14Diaoattempted auto-selfcast
08:06.22Diaosince alt by default is the selfcast modifier
08:06.27Venaraah
08:06.31Venarathat could be it
08:06.34Diaoonly way to get around it
08:06.37Diaois to make macros
08:06.49Venaralet me change the paging modifier
08:06.49Xinhuanor make alt NOT your key to switch bars :)
08:06.55Diaoyeah
08:06.59Diaouse shift or ctrl
08:07.47Venaramy shift key is a little overused already for Clique and stuff
08:08.04Xinhuanhow is that even remotely related ;p
08:08.31Venarawell, since i hold it nearly the whole raid, it would constantly show my damage spells instead of healing ones?
08:08.47Xinhuanthen swap it the other way around!
08:08.53Diaolol
08:08.58Diaoor just use ctrl
08:09.00Venaramh, thats new :>
08:09.00Diaoif that's unused ;)
08:09.07Venaractrl is overused as well ^^
08:09.13Diao>.>
08:09.34Diaotry enabling auto-assist if you have bt4
08:09.39Xinhuanget more mouse buttons
08:09.54Venarai already have 6, how much more can one have? :>
08:09.54Diaothen it should try to selfcast on you, and since that fails it will try to auto-assist to your target
08:09.58Diaovoila
08:10.01Diaoproblem solved
08:10.16Xinhuanin any case, once you have a spell bounded to clique, it shouldn't really need to be on your bars at all
08:12.14Venarai know, but i can't have all my downranks bound to my mouse
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08:12.52Xinhuando you use all 5 mouse buttons
08:13.09Diaokeybind!
08:13.15Diaowith mouseover macros
08:13.55Megaloni'm a keyboard turner and clicker!
08:13.59Venaraokay, weird
08:14.01Venarashift works
08:14.02Venarabut
08:14.30Venarawhen i dont press shift anymore while in combat it shifts to bar4 instead of back to bar1? oO
08:14.40Diao..what?
08:14.47Diaoer
08:15.01Diaowhat's default bar state set to
08:15.12Venaradon't page
08:15.15nevcairielyou probably pressed 1-6 while having shift down
08:15.20nevcairieland have action-bar-paging on
08:15.21Diaoor that, yeah
08:15.26Diaounbind action bar pages in default keybinds
08:15.36Diaoremembers Serennia nerdraging about that at MLG
08:15.37nevcairielor just turn that function off in the BT4 config
08:15.53Venaramh, k
08:23.40Venaranevcairiel: do you happen to know if blizzards clamp to screen function for the chat frame can be turned off?
08:24.04nevcairielChatFrame1:SetClampedToScreen(false)?
08:24.05nevcairielno idea
08:24.19nevcairielwill probably end up in weird behaviour :P
08:24.43VonhintenHOME`All I know is, don't try to hide it
08:24.50Venaracan i just input that with a /run into my chat?
08:24.53VonhintenHOME`I did that once, and the game froze up :)
08:24.58Venaraworth a try i guess
08:25.06Venaraah okay
08:25.24Venarai don't try to hide the whole frame
08:25.36Venarai just want the chat frame in the upper left corner of my screen
08:25.59Venaraproblem is, it bounces back as soon as the Tab leaves the screen
08:27.39Venaramhh, ChatFrame1:SetClampedToScreen(false) didn't return any errors, but it didn't work either
08:28.19Diaodoesn't those commands silently fail
08:28.21Diaodon't*
08:28.44Venarawhy?
08:29.00Diaono idea
08:29.32Diaoi just remember by default they fail silently when the command doesn't work
08:29.46Venarai guess i could try adding "Fane" to it and see if it still bounces back.
08:30.19nevcairielmaybe its dont manually
08:30.22nevcairieland not with clamped
08:30.28nevcairieldont=done
08:30.43nevcairielwith clamped you wouldnt be able to move it off screen in the first place
08:31.25Venaraconclusion? it can be moved off screen but it bounces back in
08:33.28durcynis there a default OnDragStop handler for any of the frames involved?
08:33.38Venarai'll just try what durcyn said, editing the y coordinate in layout-cache
08:34.54Venaradurcyn: that's beyond my knowledge
08:35.09Venaraand
08:35.23Venaraediting it in layout-cache = fail. bounces back on login
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08:39.05durcynand if you move ChatFrame1Tab off of the top?
08:40.09Venarathats what im trying to do. that's when its bouncing back, as soon as the Tab goes off screen
08:40.21Venaraor did you mean move to tab to, like the bottom of the frame?
08:40.25Venara*the
08:40.27durcynthe latter
08:40.58Venaraif you tell me how to do that i'll try. i think there's no option for it in prat
08:41.59nevcairielthere is something prat actually doesnt have a option for? wow
08:42.01Ellipsisunfortunately, it's really really really difficult to do such things due to the way the chat frame code works (oh the things I would do to the person who wrote that piece of...)
08:43.10Venarai assume you don't like prat Ellipsis?
08:43.12Venara^^
08:43.27nevcairielnah Ellipsis was ranting about the blizzard chat code
08:43.39Venaraah k
08:43.54durcyneh, you could try ChatFrame1Tab:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", ChatFrame1, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, 0) but i'm not convinced it'll do much of value
08:44.03Venarawell, you can do nearly everything with the tabs, only moving them is not possible
08:44.44Venarathat actually works durcyn
08:44.47Venaraunfortunately
08:44.52Venarayou can't click it anymore
08:44.57nevcairielThe problem is that most of the code was written before Blizz realized how popular the addons will become
08:44.59durcynyeah, welcome to hell.
08:45.14nevcairieland chat-code is from that time
08:45.25durcynthe chat frame click handlers are beyond shit
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08:51.34Venarasucks :/
08:53.07durcynon a whim, does it still reposition if you detach any other docked frames and just ChatFrame1Tab:Hide() ?
08:53.50durcynthough, on saying that, i'd imagine the dock itself is the problem rather than the tabs
08:54.04Venarafunny thing is
08:54.31Venarathere is a "DOCKED 1" in chat-cache fo ChatFrame1. but setting it to 0 does exactly nothing
08:54.42durcynChatFrame1 IS the dock
08:54.58durcynand it's the only frame you can dock other frames to
08:55.00Venaraah, the fog is lifting
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08:59.27CIA-4403starlon * r77820 10CombatAlarm/ (Lib/ embeds.xml): CombatAlarm: Embed AceLocale
09:01.34CIA-4403starlon * r77821 10CombatAlarm/Lib/: CombatAlarm: Oops. AceLocale was already in externals.
09:03.47Venaramh, setting the file to read only didnt do the trick either :/
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09:11.35starlonHmm
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09:33.47theoddone33magtheridon is a cute fight
09:33.51theoddone33just did it for the first time in a pug
09:33.58TNZedid you stand in the cleave?
09:33.59theoddone33downed him for the first time rather
09:34.07theoddone33there's a cleave?
09:34.17TNZeyou didnt go into the cleave??
09:34.29theoddone33gonna say no I didn't
09:34.38theoddone33I did finish next to last on healing though
09:34.51Mytosgotta love when you get quaked into the cleave
09:34.59TNZeyeah
09:35.04TNZeits like
09:35.12TNZe"I can make it out in *cleaved*"
09:35.34Lukianin macros for arena, should target=party1 through 5 work?
09:36.40Mytosdont see why it shouldnt
09:41.41Lukiandoesn't seem to :/
09:44.36theoddone33http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/Dezaris-/lolLockpic.gif best gif ever
09:45.30Ellipsis=[
09:45.53Mytosthats pretty funny acctually
09:46.31theoddone33yeah it's good
09:48.56theoddone33pretty sure all the people on arenajunkies hate their class
09:49.02theoddone33even though they're all 1800+
09:49.31theoddone33I like priest because I've played a paladin in 2v2
09:49.48theoddone33none of those people like priest though
09:51.17Mytosi hate arena
09:55.29theoddone33I still find it the most interesting thing in the game
09:55.31theoddone33for a little while at least
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09:58.55Mytosresilience killed pvp
09:59.18EritnullNevcairiel u here?
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10:05.26theoddone33I kind of agree that resilience killed pvp
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10:05.33theoddone33or at least changed it into something kind of less interesting
10:05.38theoddone33but I'm not sure it was that great before either
10:07.55theoddone33I'd prefer to see more strategy based stuff but wsg/ab/av are years old and most people still have no idea how to win
10:07.56Arrowmasterit was only good when i was the best geared warlock on the server and could 1shot people with shadowbolt
10:08.23theoddone33I got a screenshot of my first 1-shotting
10:08.46theoddone33it was a great moment
10:08.56theoddone33but these days gear advantage is just shifted
10:09.10Arrowmasteri have a screenshot of a 'wtf' oneshoting
10:09.22theoddone3320k soulfire!
10:09.23cncfanaticstheoddone33: do you find 1shotting in pvp fun ? :s
10:09.26Arrowmasterit wasnt a large hit at all the rogue just had shit gear
10:09.36Mytosi dunno, i just hate that on my new 70s i can outskill 90% of people, but i cant kill them because theyve been 70 longer and are atleast wearing full s2 so theyve got 300+res and ive got 100
10:09.40theoddone33yes, I had a lot of fun one-shotting people
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10:09.50theoddone33Mytos: yeah that was frustrating
10:10.04theoddone33not that I outskilled people on my new class
10:10.10Arrowmasterwell back then it was still balanced, we could oneshot people sometimes
10:10.11theoddone33but I know what you mean
10:10.16Arrowmasterbut melee also raped our face
10:10.21Arrowmasterbut melee still do
10:10.43theoddone33seems like most clases have a 2v2/3v3 combo they can win games in
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10:10.50theoddone33even though it's all terribly inbalanced
10:10.52theoddone33imbalanced ?
10:10.59theoddone33yeah that second word
10:11.19Arrowmasteri was one of those warlocks that only got my sucubus out in battlegrounds when somebody started pissing me off
10:11.45Arrowmasterand that usually resulted in warriors QQing
10:11.47cncfanaticsno felpuppy ?
10:11.52theoddone33all I know is that playing the priest side of priest  rogue really makes me want to play rogue again
10:12.08Arrowmasterback in the day i was lazy, i pvped with my imp
10:12.16cncfanatics:o
10:12.17cncfanaticswhy ? :p
10:12.24Arrowmasteri didnt want to farm shards
10:12.27Mytos1v1 they can make it balanced, any more than that and itll never be balanced, and now that blizzard is pushing arena so much people think it should be, its an oxymoron
10:12.49cncfanaticsI hate WoW pvp :p
10:12.55Arrowmasterme too
10:12.56cncfanaticsif I want PvP I'll go play an online shooter
10:13.01cncfanaticsthats 100% skill based at least
10:13.12Mytosexactly
10:14.43theoddone3310% latency based
10:14.53cncfanaticsheh, true
10:14.56Zyndromeback when you kicked peoples ass with your shiny AQ\Naxx epics ... those were the days , it pushed people to do PvE to pew pew in PvP ... today it's just a joke
10:15.17Arrowmasterand not 20% luck, 30% gear, and 50% oh your a warlock fighting a warrior? yeah this 50% says your going to lose
10:15.20Mytosi hate that pve gear is useless in pvp now
10:15.35theoddone33it's not
10:15.45theoddone33it's supposed to be
10:15.51theoddone33but apparently high rated rogues use a lot of it
10:15.56MegalonMytos: play a rogue :p
10:16.22zipper_<Mytos> i hate that pve gear is useless in pvp now
10:16.24Arrowmasterrogues are the only class thats using more pve gear than pvp right now since resilence doesnt really do that much for them
10:16.31zipper_t6 paladins? glaives rogues?
10:16.56Arrowmasteri do arenas in my pve gear when i do them
10:16.57FryGuyglaives?
10:17.03Arrowmasterbut thats because i dont have any pvp gear
10:17.04zipper_pve gear should be useless in pvp. Just like pvp gear should be useless in pve. So you cant 1-shot people in your pve gear anymore? Though luck
10:17.19FryGuyi stopped playing before they nerfed the raid instances
10:17.28FryGuybut what are these glaives you speak of
10:17.41zipper_FryGuy, glaives = legendary swords from illidan
10:17.49Zyndromeoh and lets ban arenas too, it has ruined the game ... "wait? I can't use my goblin rocket launcher? where's the fun in that?"
10:17.51theoddone33I like having separate gearsets for separate things
10:18.03theoddone33but it crowds my bags pretty effectively
10:18.13zipper_FryGuy, it is possible for rogues to have 4-piece bonus from T6 _and_ S3 at the same time (while wielding the glaives) making their dps a lot higher than your average s3 rogue
10:18.43zipper_Zyndrome, you can use your rocket boots and invul belt =)
10:18.47FryGuyso they're just swords then
10:18.56FryGuyi thought it was like a throwing weapon :p
10:19.01FryGuyand i was intrigued
10:19.03Arrowmasterthe best swords in the game
10:19.11zipper_FryGuy, if you wanna call 10-15% more dps than anyone else for "just swords" then yeah =P
10:19.17FryGuywell
10:19.32FryGuyis it a pair?
10:19.38zipper_yea
10:19.45zipper_have some haste proc too if you have both
10:19.52theoddone33the set bonus is 30% melee haste for 10s chance on hit
10:19.58theoddone3328% technically
10:20.24FryGuybetter than thunderfury? :)
10:20.31zipper_lol
10:20.41zipper_thunderfury is for tanking =S
10:20.51FryGuydo they drop together?
10:21.01Zyndromeglaives never drop together
10:21.04zipper_nah, they drop seperately
10:21.07Zyndromewe've had 3 offhands so far -_-
10:21.08FryGuyi mean is it like a pair :p
10:21.08zipper_mainhand/offhand
10:21.13zipper_nah
10:21.18FryGuyor is it like dal'rends
10:21.32FryGuyand how the mainhand never drops
10:21.50theoddone33yeah it's the 2008 dal'rends
10:21.51Zyndromebut then we have this (rofl) random loot system
10:21.52Mytosi know a guild on tich thats had the mainhand drop 3 times and never seen the offhand
10:22.10Zyndromelike a guild on my realm who got both glaives in their 2 first kills...
10:22.16zipper_oO
10:22.36Zyndromewhile we have been at illidan since March or something and only seen 3 offhands
10:23.05Arrowmasterwe had 2 mainhands by our 3rd kill, but havent seen one since
10:25.59theoddone33level 14 is pretty amazing these days
10:26.08theoddone33I'll pull with thrown and bonfire's will take the mob to 10%
10:26.28Zyndromethe bonfire blessing makes my hunter alt go ":(" though
10:26.40Zyndromeproc = OH SH- aggro
10:26.53theoddone3310% exp is win
10:27.15theoddone33I should put that on and get a mage to farm SM for me for a day
10:27.20theoddone3320-40 in 8 hours
10:27.25Mytosso yeah, just watched hancock, was really awesome
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10:28.21elite3vilWoo, so to add to the fact we couldn't get into sunwell this week 'cause people were on vacation... one of our officers cleaned out our guild bank and xfer'd servers.
10:28.37Zyndromethat's a little extreme
10:29.08Zyndromewe just decided to slack a bit since we can't get people for raids either, due to summer vacations
10:29.33elite3vilYeah.
10:29.52elite3vilthis guy took all our sunmotes, 20 epic gems, and 1500g
10:29.56theoddone33summer is the season for 60 hour weeks in my line of work
10:29.56erikhwow, that's screwed up.
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10:31.06elite3vil(1500g was >10% of our gbank... which is sad in itself)
10:31.59erikhis the fire festival thingy still up/
10:32.15elite3vilYeah
10:32.33Mytosyeah, our gbank is locked up like a vault, only officers can see more than one tab, noone takes money out, and noone takes items out except by the gm mailing it to them
10:32.35erikhcool; milking that stupid ribbon dance for all it's worth on my alts
10:33.06elite3vilMytos: He was an officer, and friends with the gm
10:33.09erikhMytos: ours is similar, although we have 3 tabs for healer/dps/tank
10:33.18erikhif you attend >80% you get 3 withdrawals a day
10:33.21theoddone33pretty sure guild banks ar ea bad idea
10:33.23erikhand GM controls cash
10:33.31erikheh, it's better than the old system
10:33.32theoddone33but I guess it's still better than "one guy's spare toon"
10:33.36theoddone33right
10:33.43erikh"mail a bunch of shit to a toon you'll never see again"
10:33.47erikhexactly
10:33.49elite3villol.
10:34.24elite3vilHis reason for leaving "I want to beat the game before wotlk comes out"
10:34.38erikhI love that; "beat" the game.
10:34.43elite3vilThe guild he xfer'd to is on M'uru. We were on Twins.
10:34.48erikhhc progression guilds amuse me
10:35.07theoddone33upi
10:35.11theoddone33you're in sunwell
10:35.14theoddone33that's pretty close to beating the game
10:35.34erikhdoes it roll credits after you kill kael?
10:35.45theoddone33only if you have gladiator title
10:35.46Mytosseeing as theres only waht, 5 in sunwell, and thats gonna be the last content patch before expansion, looks like your gonna beat the game
10:36.22elite3vilMytos: There's 6, we've killed 3. He transferred to a guild that's killed 4
10:36.46Mytosoooo one boss farther, hes movin up in the world lol
10:36.47theoddone33and they know he steals gbanks?
10:36.57erikhlikely not
10:37.03erikheither that or they don't care
10:37.04elite3viltheoddone33: Yeah, I had a chat with one of their officers... they didn't seem to care
10:37.07Mytosyeah, make sure you let them know, hell get a gkick and hten hes just fucked
10:37.19erikhheh, I know what our gm does when people QQ to him
10:37.32erikhhe sends them a polite message full of words I wouldn't say in front of my mother
10:37.36erikhthey usually don't write again
10:37.49cncfanaticsdamn this sucks, I have a motherfucking headache and can't remember half what I did yesterdaynight :(
10:38.03erikhthat said, if someone raped a gbank to come to our guild I imagine he'd at least look into it.
10:38.33Mytossounds like you had the perfect holiday man
10:38.47elite3vilHe was even nice enough to write "LOL" in one of the tabs using Destruction pots
10:38.49erikhyeah, until you get told what you did on monday
10:39.09erikh(in front of everyone else)
10:39.37Vulcanushe probably kissed a guy or something ;p
10:40.11Vulcanusgoddammit there's Creative ads in WAU >(
10:40.16cncfanaticsnah Vulcanus :p
10:40.48Mytoshe probably tossed the salad
10:41.22Megalonchoked someones chicken!
10:41.45Mytosdid a donkey show
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10:42.55CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77823 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/ (10 files): LibKeyBound-1.0: fix locale handling and add dummy ruRU file
10:43.02nevcairielman toadkiller really fails
10:43.15cncfanaticswhy nevcairiel ?
10:43.19nevcairielLibKeyBound didnt even work at all for ruRU clients because it didnt have a fallback to enUS
10:44.07nevcairielso it just didnt load
10:45.04erikhwow doesn't provide automatic fallback?
10:45.09erikhthat's ... kind of scary
10:45.33nevcairielits not wows fault
10:45.52nevcairielits how authors handle translations
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10:47.16nevcairieland i was wondering how it was possible that BT4 didnt work at all for ruRU people
10:47.23nevcairielit was all toadkillers fault =P
10:47.42Ellipsisbut really, what isn't? :)
10:48.04theoddone33there are ruRU people?
10:48.22nevcairielyeah blizz released the language pack not too long ago, iirc
10:48.52nevcairieli think its still beta or something, though
10:49.11erikha locale system that doesn't fallback to C? that's just... primitive :P
10:50.20nevcairielC in addons? huh?
10:50.45theoddone33C is pretty primitive <flamewar>
10:51.05nevcairielC's primitiveness is what it makes good
10:51.26theoddone33it's a blessing and a curse
10:51.35erikhno, C is the default locale
10:51.43erikhsheesh, locales are an ISO standard :)
10:52.00erikhI imagine a very large chunk of wow is written in C anyways
10:52.14theoddone33c++, yeah
10:52.24nevcairielall of it, i guess :P
10:52.26erikhprobably a mix of both, as most projects go
10:52.32theoddone33oh man
10:52.35theoddone33I hope not, that's a mess
10:52.46erikhI don't think Lua has a C++ binding
10:52.50erikhfor embedding
10:53.05nevcairielWriting "pure" C++ is kinda hard
10:53.09nevcairielyou always end up with C funcs
10:53.09erikhexactly.
10:53.23theoddone33what?
10:53.38erikhand you always end up with one asshat on the team that doesn't understand that C and C++ are very different beasts, even when classes aren't used
10:53.56erikhand basically writes strongly-typed C
10:54.11CIA-4403whyv * r77824 10Bartender4/locale/zhTW.lua: Bartender4: update zhTW locale
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10:54.15nevcairielmost of the time that isnt as bad as it sounds, either
10:54.41erikheh, most of the problems with C are programmers that don't understand pointers as well as they should
10:54.55theoddone33heh
10:54.56nevcairielheh yeah, but thats not a C++/C problem
10:55.04Ellipsispointers are fun, I particularly like the funny things you can do by abusing them!
10:55.18erikhoh no, just griping because I'm tired, old and cranky
10:55.22theoddone33or the fact that parts of the C standard API are almost impossible to use correctly even after years of experience
10:55.32erikhhahahaha
10:55.33erikhhahahaah
10:55.35erikhhah!
10:55.38erikh"C standard API"
10:55.41erikhyou surely jest!
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10:55.52Ellipsisstandard? what does that word even mean anymore?
10:55.59theoddone33well there are a couple of C standards
10:56.11erikhthe closest thing C has to a "standard API" is POSIX and even that's a joke
10:56.19nevcairielC89!
10:56.21theoddone33c89 has an api
10:56.29theoddone33and it's terrible
10:56.55erikhC89 is more than a language spec? I did not know that.
10:57.04theoddone33language spec also has an api
10:57.22theoddone33much like the C++ spec defines STL and such
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10:57.56theoddone33boo last my 10% exp buff due to typing
10:57.58theoddone33lost
10:58.04theoddone33damn you C!
10:58.09nevcairielC89 defines all functions that a C89 compliant library and compiler has to support
10:58.33nevcairielso you have a "Standard API" that all C89 systems support
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10:58.55cncfanaticsis midsummer over already ?
10:58.57cncfanaticsanyone know ?
10:59.02theoddone33that all support "poorly"
10:59.12erikhah, I thought it was just BNF and semantic rules
10:59.14nevcairielcncfanatics: over today, yes
10:59.22cncfanaticsty
10:59.23theoddone33I am not cynical at all
10:59.26nevcairieltheoddone33: better then C99 :P
10:59.28erikhdidn't realize it was like the C++ standardization effort
10:59.31theoddone33true
10:59.37cncfanaticsI'm gonna go to bed again (yes at 1pm). g'night all
10:59.45theoddone33I actually like c99
10:59.48theoddone33as far as C goes
10:59.49erikh(did that ever happen, btw? I always find out about that stuff late)
10:59.56nevcairielC99 happend, yeah
11:00.02erikhno, the C++ spec
11:00.03nevcairielbut not alot of compilers support it fully
11:00.05theoddone33in 99
11:00.05nevcairielah
11:00.06erikhlike, an official one
11:00.08theoddone33oddly enough
11:00.14nevcairielC++2003 happend, yea
11:00.18erikhnot just people building compilers out of bjarne's book
11:00.23erikhvery cool
11:00.34theoddone33c++0x is about to happen
11:00.43theoddone33which will make the language more complex for almost no gain in usefulness
11:00.45theoddone33yay!
11:00.54nevcairielnative threading is the win
11:01.06SebastianHi guys, Is there a bug in wowaceupdater 1.9.46.746? It doesn't download the required libs for some AdddOns when I do WITHOUT externals, huh?
11:01.08theoddone33http://www.kuzbass.ru:8086/docs/isocpp/ for when you're bored
11:01.15erikhyeah, I normally pull out c (and even rarer C++) just long enough to create a FFI to a dynamic language I like
11:01.19cnc|sleepSebastian: thats a bug in the addon
11:01.24cnc|sleepmost likely at least
11:01.40erikhtheoddone33: I thought that was C++'s goal? to preserve programmer salaries by increasing the bar every few years
11:01.40Ellipsisknocks cnc|sleep out with a baseball bat
11:01.46nevcairielC++0x + TR1 implement a lot of useful funcationality, imho
11:01.57theoddone33no you're thinking of the fake interview with stroustrup
11:02.16erikhoh, the unicode operator one
11:02.22theoddone33or joking and accidentally referenced the fake interview with stroustrup
11:02.37erikhwhat's really disgusting is, perl has that feature
11:02.39erikhjust not for operators
11:02.42SebastianThank you cnc|sleep
11:03.00erikhif you turn on utf8 support, you can name variables and functions anything in the utf8 character space
11:03.13nevcairielhah
11:03.33Ellipsisthat does not sound like fun
11:03.42theoddone33I glanced over the c++0x spec
11:03.46erikhwell, the great thing about the perl community is that they're largely self-moderating
11:03.56theoddone33it does have some useful stuff but most seems unnecessary and pointless
11:04.04theoddone33that's too strong
11:04.12erikhsuperfluous?
11:04.22theoddone33most of it seems like adding more complexity to a language that is already too complex
11:04.35theoddone33and adding more potentially dangerous features to a language that has many of them
11:04.52erikhyeah, that's why I chew ruby these days when viable
11:04.56theoddone33dangerous for the purposes of writing and understanding clean code
11:05.12theoddone33I would like ruby if they didn't try to legislate whitespace syntax
11:05.32erikhonly line endings are legislated, and even that is very flexible
11:05.42erikhit's nowhere near as draconian as python
11:05.53theoddone33you get a warning if you call a function like this
11:05.57theoddone33func (blah)
11:06.01theoddone33instead of func(blah)
11:06.05theoddone33which is so ridiculous
11:06.11erikhyeah, because "func blah" is going to be gone in 2.0
11:06.11theoddone33it's hard to express the extent of the ridiculousness
11:06.25erikhand func(blah) and func (blah) are going to win
11:06.37theoddone33not sure I follow
11:06.41erikhthat's just the grammar getting pissy
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11:06.58theoddone33to be honest
11:06.58erikhruby's parens are optional
11:07.00theoddone33I consider it a bug
11:07.01erikhright now, pre-2.0
11:07.26erikheh, ruby grew up very organic and it's slowly getting formalized
11:07.38theoddone33I still am not sure what you mean
11:07.56erikhfunc(blah) and func blah are equivalent
11:08.00erikhright now
11:08.14theoddone33and func (blah) isn't?
11:08.20theoddone33func<space>(blah)
11:08.22erikhfunc (blah) is ambiguous in the current syntax: it could either be the result of the grouping of (blah), returned to func
11:08.28erikhor sending blah to the func method
11:08.34theoddone33ah
11:08.37theoddone33yeah that's a bug, heh
11:08.53erikhyeah, but *so* many things depend on the optional paren syntax they can't just blindly axe it
11:08.59erikhso 2.0 is there to correct the problem
11:10.04erikhperl has oddities like that too: grep 1 || 2, @list f.e.
11:10.14erikhI got yelled at for doing that once.
11:10.16theoddone33perl is bad on most levels
11:10.30theoddone33ruby I view as the only serious competitor to python
11:10.38theoddone33for major scripting tasks
11:10.48erikhit's loose syntax allows for some amazing feats in metaprogramming, and as far as scriping languages goes it's faster than most
11:10.58theoddone33its = perl?
11:11.02erikhyeah.
11:11.26erikhthat said, I've been using it long enough to develop a healthy hatred for it
11:11.48erikhputs food in the fridge with mod_prel
11:11.51erikheh, mod_perl
11:12.35theoddone33it's hard to beat for quick one-off scripts if you're going for compactness
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11:13.09theoddone33I do all that in python these days though because it turns out I can type fast and I don't need to use a language that prefers obscurity over clarity
11:13.42nevcairielI never understood how people could actually read and understand the more obscure perl parts
11:14.02theoddone33I'm sure it' snot hard after you do it for a while
11:14.18theoddone33I'm stuck at not understanding why people would want to read and understand the more obscure perl parts
11:14.33nevcairiellol
11:14.54erikhthat's the thing.. with rare exception most of the well-accepted perl is cleanly written
11:15.06erikhit's just that a LOT of noobs got jobs writing perl
11:15.08erikha LOT of them.
11:15.10theoddone33you mean what
11:15.12theoddone33like CPAN?
11:15.14theoddone33is clean?
11:15.29erikhheh, have you looked at sourceforge.net lately or rubyforge?
11:15.32erikhCPAN is par
11:15.44erikhthere's good/bad/ugly
11:16.03theoddone33I haven't kept up with perl for a while
11:16.20theoddone33we have an asset conversion system at work that uses it with C bindings
11:16.32theoddone33which I write python scripts and have them os.system call perl scripts
11:16.32erikheh, a lot of the chaff went off to do other things
11:16.35theoddone33it's cute
11:16.50erikhmostly things involving something other than programming
11:17.14erikhthe largest problem with perl right now is that it's not going anywhere
11:17.21theoddone33my favorite part is when I have python calling perl, which calls into C, which calls perl again
11:17.28erikhheh
11:17.38erikhdo that without shelling :)
11:18.05erikhoh, oh man.
11:18.07theoddone33I wrote a version in python of one of the converters
11:18.13theoddone33and made it interact intelligently with perforce
11:18.24theoddone33instead of batch p4 edit, perl convert.pl, p4 add
11:18.25erikhabout 6 months ago I picked up maintainership for an old ruby database interface suite
11:18.38erikhin there was a sybase driver
11:18.45theoddone33and the convert time for everything went from like 2-3 hours to 15 minutes
11:18.49erikhthe sybase driver was the only thing in the whole set that was in pure C
11:18.56erikhso I ignore it, because hell, it's sybase
11:19.08erikhfinally I get to it.. and examine the code
11:19.23erikhevery function is bound to an equivalent ruby method, which is normal
11:19.42erikhbut the bodies of the functions are just calls to ruby's API to... evaluate ruby
11:19.49erikhand return the result of the eval
11:19.52theoddone33ooh
11:19.54theoddone33nice
11:20.05erikhyeah, I'm still playing janitor with that project
11:20.46erikhanyways, enough war stories, it's time for bed... nice chatting with you all.
11:21.01theoddone33war stories are the best
11:21.34erikheh, if I'm feeling ballsy I'll start going off about xerox.com's mod_perl codebase
11:21.46theoddone33I could listen to "one time we ran across a bunch of code that passed std::string by value and then hashed it immediately inside every function" stories all day
11:23.15erikhdoesn't lua have its own table support?
11:23.20erikhanyways, I really need to sleep
11:23.28theoddone33yeah c++
11:23.31theoddone33in this case
11:24.07theoddone33I gotta be careful who I bad mouth though because they might play WoW and/or be in this channel and/or read the logs
11:24.19nevcairiellol
11:24.38nevcairielwho knows who is listening.. :)
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11:37.25CIA-4403anea * r77825 10Whisp/:
11:37.25CIA-44Whisp 20080705:
11:37.25CIA-44- Setting Ace3 externals
11:40.29CIA-4403anea * r77826 10Whisp/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
11:40.29CIA-44Whisp 20080705:
11:40.29CIA-44- Ace3 rebuild of the original Whisp
11:40.29CIA-44- Support for modules
11:40.29CIA-44- Several features now come as modules
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11:51.27CIA-4403anea * r77827 10Whisp/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
11:51.27CIA-44Whisp 20080705:
11:51.27CIA-44- Versioning ftw, missed a few files at upload.
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11:59.03CIA-4403anea * r77828 10Whisp/ (locale-enUS.lua locale-zhTW.lua):
11:59.03CIA-44Whisp 20080705:
11:59.03CIA-44- Localisation fix.
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12:37.56digmouseis there any open API for AtlasLoot?
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12:41.24CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77829 10Bartender4/ (42 files in 7 dirs):
12:41.24CIA-44Bartender4: big restructuring, split the options from the code and moved individual modules into subdirs
12:41.24CIA-44- expect big breakage if you try to update without completely restarting wow
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13:26.58Vulcanuslocal functions can only be called in the file it is defined in?
13:27.25nevcairielunless you pass the reference somehow
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13:28.19Vulcanusokay, thanks. Looking into the thought of making my mods API-style and not just global every function, but its split into multiple files so have to be careful XD
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13:46.03Fisker-explodes nevcairiel
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14:06.37zipper_heh
14:06.44zipper_nice quote =P
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15:14.54Rudolhi, I dont get a activation email for the forum account... if I hit "Need another activation email?" it takes a while an this appears: "An Error Has Occurred! A new activation email has successfully been sent." .. need help
15:15.16Rudol(there is still no email)
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15:16.01Phayhi all, is there any1 here who could help me make a module for button facade?
15:16.28Phayi want to be able to use button facade but with the default blizzard action bars
15:17.07Phayany1?
15:17.20Vulcanusany2
15:19.42Lukianany3
15:19.59vithosyou mean like, Blizz_ButtonFacade?
15:20.23Stanzilla^ is broken
15:20.31Stanzillawas not updated for the color changes in BF
15:20.41vithosah
15:22.07Phayblizz button facade is out of date and is riddled with bugs unfortuneatly
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15:29.29Phayno1 wants to help phay :*(
15:29.33Phayah well cya XD
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15:34.53Rudoldamn, there is still no activation email for the forum :(
15:37.57nevcairielforum mails are kinda broken
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15:43.15Rudolah ok, thxfor the info nevcairiel
15:43.26nevcairielwe're looking into getting it fixed
15:43.37nevcairielbut the admin is away for the holiday weekend, it seems :P
15:43.45Rudol:)
15:44.40Rudolcu later in the forum then, if it works again ;)
15:45.16hastecouldn't you just have manually activated the account :p ?
15:46.26nevcairielI no can has admin
15:46.31nevcairielFunkeh` could, however
15:48.07CIA-4403digmouse * r77830 10Wishlist/ (Data/PvP.lua Wishlist-enUS.lua Wishlist-zhCN.lua):
15:48.07CIA-44Wishlist:
15:48.07CIA-44-more req. corrections
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15:51.11trek1xdcc list
15:52.10Lukianlooks at trek1 strangely
15:52.33Lukiantrek1, what are you expecting to find? pirated addons?
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15:53.29digmousei just wish i dont get busted up for my commits
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16:20.47nevcairieldigmouse: what have you done that one might consider that? :P
16:24.45Funkeh`I think hes beed a bad boy
16:24.50Funkeh`been* even
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16:34.05CIA-4403diablohu * r77831 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua:
16:34.05CIA-44AtlasLoot:
16:34.05CIA-44- zhCN update
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16:50.47Snagolol @ http://www.explosm.net/comics/1333/
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16:52.50Fisker-I AM INVINCIBLE
16:56.00aestilhow do you get pet food that buffs them?
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17:07.27Anduneany idea what addon would be broadcasting messages as 'Crb'?  Guildie says he doesn't have one by that name, but it's quite spammy.  (as reported by AddonSpamFu)
17:14.17Vulcanusprobs DBM or something :p
17:15.37SnagoAndune: Probably Carbonite
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17:26.07CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77832 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Tracking/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Broker_Tracking: broker tracker plugin
17:29.24CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77833 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Tracking/ (. Broker_Tracking.toc): Broker_Tracking: added externals
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17:35.54CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77834 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Tracking/Broker_Tracking.lua: Broker_Tracking: Place dropdown at cursor
17:37.40CIA-4403ag 07Borlox * r77835 10Fortress/Fortress/Core.lua:
17:37.40CIA-44Fortress:
17:37.40CIA-44- Enable legos for left and right click
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17:43.59ag`Tekkub: I have several plugins and a display using broker-1.1 now :)
17:44.13CIA-4403danielbarron * r77836 10RaidBuffStatus/ (Core.lua RaidBuffStatus.toc ReadMe.txt):
17:44.13CIA-44RaidBuffStatus:
17:44.13CIA-44- Fixed bug causing an error to pop up sometimes when the tank list is set up.
17:44.20Tekkubwewt
17:44.33ag`the display spawns legos for each plugin
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17:47.20CIA-4403neotron * r77837 10MagicTargets/ (MagicTargets.lua MagicTargets.toc): MagicTargets: Added FuBar as an optional dependency.
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17:53.36aestili have a question about grid
17:53.50aestilgiven a space, lets say that space is wide enough for 5 groups wide
17:54.11aestilcan i make it so that when you are in a 10 man, the 2 groups 'center' to that space for 5 groups?
17:54.25aestiland when its 5 groups, have it properly situated in the space?
17:54.42DARKGuysweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, I just got my XFX 8600GT 256Mb XXX Zallman Fansink :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
17:55.00DARKGuywhee wheee wheeeee 1280x1024 8x AA full WoW running happily :O
17:55.34Gnarfoz8600gt's are... weak?
17:55.43DARKGuywell
17:55.44Gnarfozbut it's not like wow needs gpu power, anyway ^^
17:55.47DARKGuyXD
17:55.54DARKGuyat least I can play Assassins's Creed happily
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17:56.01DARKGuy<.< it's playable, at least
17:56.22Gnarfozhow much did you have to pay for it, is the key question ;p
17:56.22DARKGuymy TV does the AA job, so no need to use AA ^_^
17:56.46DARKGuy$293 :(
17:56.50DARKGuybut it's because my country sucks
17:57.17DARKGuyI'm kinda in doubt though, is 49ºC a good temp ?
17:57.17Gnarfozwtf? $293?
17:57.23DARKGuyyeah
17:57.29Gnarfozyes, don't worry about gpu chip temps
17:57.36DARKGuypeople buy stuff out in other countries, they come here, and sell it for like 200% or something
17:57.47DARKGuystupid taxes, prices, dollar, and inflation.
17:57.55DARKGuyand president
17:57.55DARKGuy:D
17:57.56Gnarfozdunno, don't have geoIP support in xchat, no clue where you're from :p
17:58.02DARKGuylol
17:58.04DARKGuyVenezuela :(
17:58.13Gnarfozah :\
17:58.46DARKGuyit was a big change though, I had a 7200 before
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18:01.55CIA-4403neotron * r77838 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: MagicTargets: Fixed possible nil indexing error.
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18:09.56Gnarfozindeed, that's even worse
18:10.36DARKGuyyup :p
18:11.10DARKGuyGnarfoz: still, it isn't that bad, what do you think? http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/08/07/05/dfz.png - http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/08/07/05/a4m.png
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18:11.39CIA-4403neotron * r77839 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.toc: MagicTargets: Added Tablet-2.0 as optional dependency so it's guaranteed to be loaded before the fubar plugin.
18:11.54DARKGuywhoops, going AFK for a quick lunch, brb ^^;;
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18:27.57syerenFunkeh`, is there anyway to move a bunch of Statblocks 'stuck' together ... together?
18:28.31Funkeh`yeah, stick them together
18:30.03syerenHow do I do that :P?
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18:31.24CIA-44tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rec91b1c 10/: Add QID-fixing script
18:31.30CIA-44tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * re71a0c8 10/: QID fixes from debugger
18:32.21Funkeh`move them together..
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18:34.18syerenAh, it was hit and miss as to whether they all moved together or not Funkeh` :p
18:34.22syerenHence my question sorry :p
18:34.44Funkeh`no idea what you're getting at
18:35.06syerenWell, sometimes if I dragged one of the group it would move by itself.
18:35.12syerenAnd then other times it would drag the whole group :p
18:39.09Gnarfozlibstickyframes-7.0 w/ statblock support
18:39.10Gnarfozout now
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18:41.32DARKGuyBack ^_^.
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18:59.08aestilwill libstickyframes mean bt4 has sticky frames now?
19:03.12nevcairielno, bt4 will never use that library
19:03.46CIA-4403ag 07Borlox * r77840 10Fortress/Fortress/Core.lua:
19:03.46CIA-44Fortress:
19:03.46CIA-44- Added OnEnter, OnLeave
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19:06.14CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77842 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_PvP/: Broker_PvP: added externals
19:07.06ag`7.0?
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19:19.08PrimerHow does one move the pally power UI?
19:19.17Primer"Left click drag to move bars" doesn't do it
19:19.27Primerquite annoying
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19:23.04Zyndromeyou can move it ... /pp config & unhide the drag-button
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19:25.12CIA-4403funkydude * r77845 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: StatBlocks_Ammo: tweaks
19:25.39AiianePrimer - do you see the dot that all of the other stuff is oriented around
19:26.09Aiianeif it's red, it's locked in position
19:26.17Aiianeif it's green it's movable
19:26.46Primerdoesn't matter what color it is
19:27.03Primerseveral checkbox type options don't work either
19:27.15Primerfor example, hide drag button, does nothing
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19:28.18Primerdisplay -> hide drag handle
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19:28.25Primerclick....nothiong
19:29.43Ellipsisare you getting errors?
19:30.38Primeryeah
19:30.48Primerforgot I had bugsack
19:31.28Primerbah, I can't paste into this rxvt.exe
19:32.27Primerhttp://sh.nu/p/24613
19:33.58Andunehmm.  I've asked Parrot to suppres 'Mana Spring', but I still see mana spring +mana messages..
19:37.30Anduneany ideas what I'm doing wrong?
19:38.38Ellipsisdid you possibly suppress the buff as opposed to the actual mana gains?
19:40.05Zhinjiocc
19:40.08Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
19:40.16Ellipsisg'morning
19:40.55Fisker-slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout
19:41.24Anduneellipsis: hmm.
19:41.40AnduneI just added 'Mana Spring' as a suppression
19:41.47Anduneno other options there  :P
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19:46.08Gnarfozand... what does the actual mana gain look like?
19:46.10Anduneah, I see.  It's filtering the text right before it goes to the notification.
19:46.21Andunerather than the original combat message.  well darn.  It's just saying +40 mana
19:46.38Gnarfoz... no
19:46.38AnduneI might want to see other mana increases, I just don't wanna see the spam from my totem  :(
19:46.42Gnarfozthe combat log message >_<
19:47.07Andunecombat log message says 'X gains 20 Mana from Mana Spring Totem V's Mana Spring'
19:47.12CIA-4403ag 07Plugins * r77846 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Mail/ (Broker_Mail.lua newmail.tga): Broker_Mail: Now works
19:47.39Andunehowever, I just looked at the code, and it's calling Parrot_Suppressions:ShouldSuppress(text) in Parrot_Display:ShowMessage, which seems to be getting the actual message to be sent, not the original combat log event
19:47.42Gnarfozcould also just set to filter gains under 41 mana ^^
19:48.02sbbah - human rogue is OPed :(
19:48.11Andunebecause filtering on the word 'Mana' seems to work fine.
19:48.18sbstealth + perception = evil :/
19:48.43Andunegnarfoz:  yeah I may do that.  Just would have preferred to only shutup the totem mana.  ah well, sounds like it doesn't work that way.
19:48.54Gnarfoz...yet
19:49.00Andune:)
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19:49.28AnduneI searched the forums and didn't see anyone talking about suppressions not working, figured I couldn't be the only one and must be doing something wrong
19:50.26Gnarfozcertainly sounds wrong.
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19:52.08Andunewell, it does work, just not the way I'd expect.  :)
19:53.10Gnarfozwhat use is it at all?
19:53.12Andunefilter worked good
19:53.18AnduneI'l use that for now
19:53.25GnarfozoO you can configure the wording on all events anyway
19:53.33Gnarfozwhy would you suppress afterwards ^^
19:54.07Zhinjioanyone can please explain spell hit cap? The table on wowwiki is making my brain ache
19:54.46ZhinjioI've got a mage friend who's being told that he can't come into SSC/BT because his spell hit isn't high enough.
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19:54.53Zhinjiohis hit rating is... uh ... 82
19:54.57Gnarfozhe should probably hit the cap, then.
19:55.02Zhinjioso what is the cap?
19:55.07Gnarfoz168?
19:55.13Gnarfozor somesuch.
19:55.14Zhinjiono shit? Jesus.
19:55.26Zhinjioseriously? That seems way high
19:55.41Gnarfozbtw
19:55.42Gnarfoz202 spell hit rating (16%) needed to hit the 99% cap against raid bosses  <--
19:55.45Zhinjiothe wowwiki table does not support that data. But then... I don't see how its decipherable at all
19:55.47GnarfozRIGHT in the "quick facts" info box.
19:55.58Andunemodifiers are applied in the combat processing code, then ShowMessage is called on the result.  So yeah, I could modify my totem messages to be 'foo' and then filter foo out..
19:56.01Gnarfozyeah, because there's talents for all schools of magic to reduce it somewhat :p
19:56.10Zhinjioaha
19:56.18GnarfozAndune: you could, but... would you? :p
19:56.24AnduneI might  :)
19:56.39GnarfozMage  Elemental Precision  Frost, Tier 1  + 1% per point, 3% max  Fire and Frost spells only
19:56.43Gnarfozalso, right from the wowwiki page
19:56.51Zhinjionow I get it.
19:56.53GnarfozI don't know shit about caster theorycraft, but how could you miss that? :p
19:56.55Zhinjiothanks.
19:57.05Gnarfozhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Spell_hit_chance < maybe not looking at the same page?  ^^
19:57.05ZhinjioI skipped tot he table, and didn'tcatch the earlier part
19:57.14Gnarfozheh
19:57.36Gnarfozoh yeah
19:57.39GnarfozI can see how that table is confusing
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20:01.50AbsoRayneIs there a problem with the new eePanels? O_o
20:01.57AbsoRayne'new'
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20:03.51Gnarfozway to be specific
20:03.57AbsoRayne..\eepanels2\core.lua:1546: attempt to concatenate field 'name' (a nil value)
20:04.02AbsoRaynesorry was typing
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20:04.25Gnarfozhm, dunno. using eePanels 1
20:04.31durcynuse kgpanels
20:04.44Gnarfozno, don't
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20:07.38AbsoRayne@_@
20:07.47AbsoRayneWhat the heck is making this error
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20:16.34Gnarfoz~seen ckknight
20:16.35purlckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 2d 21h 19m 39s ago, saying: 'yea, that seems best, sylvanaar'.
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20:26.45CamciCan a lvl 31 enter zul farak? :p
20:29.11Ellipsisenter, or survive? :P
20:30.02Camcienter
20:30.04Camci:P
20:30.22elite3vilNeed to be 35 iirc
20:30.44Camciawww
20:31.21Camciwhat other "high" instnace can a lvl 31 go more then RFD? ^^
20:31.45CryectSM
20:32.31Camciaha
20:32.36Camciall 4 places?
20:32.43CryectYeah
20:32.48Camcicool thanks man :D
20:34.35Zyndromeglhf getting a group for anything sub-heroics
20:35.09Camciim boosting a friend
20:35.12Camciso np :)
20:39.32Andunedidn't the color picker used to have a 'copy' functionality, so I can c&p colors easily?
20:39.47Zyndromeenhanced colour picker, yes
20:40.05AnduneI knew I wasn't going batty.  Just re-installed all the mods yesterday.  I seem to have the basic one now  :P
20:43.37Andunenot havin any luck finding it, all searches are turning up a bunch of UI compilations.  I guess I could just strip it from one of those, but any idea where I might find it standalone?
20:44.08Anduneoh damn, I found it.  different spelling of colour  :)
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20:44.23Andunety Zyndrome.
20:44.55Zyndromeeither "color" or "colour" is fine, different spelling depending on region :C
20:45.13Zyndromebetter rename the mod to ColorColour
20:45.23Anduneheh
20:47.56CIA-4403funkydude * r77849 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: updated blacklist
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20:51.11erikhCamci: unless you're looking for gear, staying *out* of instances is the fastest way to level a toon
20:51.20erikhstrongly recommends Jame's leveling guide
20:51.30Diaoactually
20:51.36Diaogetting powered through instances is the fastest way to level
20:51.53Dashkallevel 20s in SM with a pala pull-the-whole-damn-instance tank is pretty bloddy fast
20:52.04Diaoyep
20:52.38erikhI could see that, but unless you have two accounts or have a "professional" doing it for you that option's not always going to be available
20:52.42Diaowhen i made my new hunter alt, i grabbed 3 friends at the same level
20:52.52Diaoand borrowed my friend's holy pally
20:52.56Diaoand used her to run us through instances
20:53.00Dashkalstaying out is the best way to level solo :p
20:53.01Diaolevel 50 in 1 day /played
20:53.15Diaothen i leveled normally after that
20:53.16Diaolol
20:53.27erikhand not to mention, I just hit 50 on a mage following that leveling guide and I'm now revered with all alliance factions :)
20:53.37erikhwhich makes that mount so much cheaper.
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20:53.53erikh... and halfway to exalted with SW
20:53.53Diaomeh, gold is so easy to get anyway ;p
20:54.03erikhyeah, but I don't like wasting it
20:54.14DashkalI has a 70.  30 or so mins in IQD and I have a mount
20:54.19erikhgot 3 toons to get epic flyers for
20:54.42DashkalToo bad wildhammer/shadowpray are just alliance/horde and not in a specific faction for discounts
20:55.05Gnarfozthat's on purpose.
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20:55.27Dashkalwouldn't matter either way.  just price it a lil higher to make up for the discount
20:57.12Fisker-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XD-Picture_Card <- xD
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21:04.24erikhdarkmoon's back in a few days, isn't it?
21:06.53AbsoRaynehttp://i27.tinypic.com/2edp75e.jpg Thoughts anyone?
21:09.39Stanzillathe font is...brrr
21:10.34erikhI like it :)
21:10.36Diaowhat bartexture is that
21:10.39Diaoit looks nice :O
21:10.48Diaoand the font is pretty futuristic
21:11.20AbsoRayneHal K
21:11.29AbsoRayneAnd the font is Silkscreen
21:11.47Diaohal k
21:11.50Diaowhere would i get that?
21:12.00Diaoand, is silkscreen a utf-8 font?
21:12.02AbsoRayneone second, have it bookmarked...
21:13.04AbsoRayneok maybe I dont...
21:14.31Diaooh, never mind
21:14.34Diaojust googled silkscreen
21:14.38Diaono extended characters :(
21:15.07erikhheh, I still can't figure out kgpanels
21:15.25Kuosithe pixelfont seems wrong sized in the ss =(
21:15.54AbsoRayneYou can ninja the textures from one of my UI packs from Sharedmedia, Diao
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21:16.43Diaoah
21:16.51DiaoWhere can I find your UI packs?
21:17.01AbsoRaynehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8207-RaynesBurntBlackCherryLite.html
21:17.47DiaoThanks
21:17.49AbsoRaynenp
21:17.53Diaotexture stealing time
21:17.54Diao:D
21:18.23AbsoRayneJust make sure, when you run WAU, you make a backup of sharedmedia.lua, in case the update overrides it
21:19.16Ellipsisneeds moar mymedia
21:19.36AbsoRayneEllipsis: Lies!
21:20.02Ellipsisno u
21:20.06Diaoyou just made an addition to the original sharedmedia, correct?
21:20.32AbsoRayneno u, srsly
21:20.38AbsoRayneDiao: aye
21:20.54nevcairielBT3 and cyCircled? Man you live behind the moon :P
21:20.58Diaohaha
21:21.17Diaotime to play around with these hal textures and see which i like bets
21:21.18AbsoRayneshrugs
21:21.19Diaobest*
21:21.43nevcairielalso, the addon names in your description is like not readable in that color
21:22.27Diaowait
21:22.36Diaoupdated yesterday, but you still have SCL? o_O
21:22.47Diaoi thought SCL was no longer usable as of 2.4 :o
21:22.50nevcairielSimpleCombatLob
21:22.52nevcairielnot Log
21:22.53nevcairiel:P
21:23.02AbsoRayneI have to fix alot of that
21:23.04AbsoRayneI know
21:23.18AbsoRayneAnd if SCL is in there, its by accident. Probably havent deleted it yet.
21:23.23Diaoah
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21:28.47AbsoRaynemmmmm spellcheck
21:29.42AbsoRayneI was running Heroic Bm today with this on repeat: http://youtube.com/watch?v=s4nVKn0l2mo&feature=related
21:29.45AbsoRayneWas intense.
21:29.56Matrix110huh did I miss edrama in this channel? :P
21:30.12erikhmore than 24h ago
21:30.38Matrix110did the Tekkub vs. Ackis end that bad ? :P
21:31.06Matrix110fights on the Internet are serious business
21:31.14erikhdunno.. i'm new here but it was Ackis being ignorant about how git and svn integrate and everyone else saying that ackis was just looking for a reason
21:31.59erikhthere was a little slap fight and ackis got banned
21:32.10Matrix110Damn I left to early
21:32.27Matrix110I miss edrama in my guild
21:32.33Matrix110in Vanilla WoW we had it frequently
21:32.37Matrix110now in TBC its boring as hell
21:32.49Matrix110and now I miss #wowace edrama
21:32.53Matrix110:-(
21:33.38erikhyeah, the drama llamas in ours dispersed post-BC and several of them rr'd elsewhere, and now the only problem we have is with PvE noobs bitching about having to flag up inside instances
21:34.08erikhwhich is comparatively minor
21:34.38erikhit's nice being in a guild with no officers :)
21:41.42harldephinwould there be a way to create an add-on showing some kind of an aggro indicator for any targeted enemy, representing whether the player is in the aggro range of an enemy or not?
21:43.02harldephini know it's different for certain enemies and depends on the level delta, so that would need a list of all enemies and their aggro ratio, in case there is anything like that.
21:46.11Matrix110Iam not sure but realising that if it would be possible is prolly more work than the benefit it brings :P
21:47.42Jaxineif you play wow for 3 years you get a pretty good feel for aggro range
21:47.56Matrix110tell that to our rogues plx
21:48.39Jaxineactually, mobs/bosses that can see through stealth can see stealthed units at a greater range than nonstealthed
21:48.45harldephinwell, yes, and i don't really have a problem with it.. it's just an idea
21:48.55Matrix110yeah Jaxine but they seem to forget that :P
21:50.29harldephini actually never had a problem with stealth-discovering units either, since as a druid my stealth level seems to be higher than that of rogue. - or: rogues are just bad at it..
21:52.55harldephinsometimes people start fights within the aggro range of an enemy i'm already fighting at, so they virtually add me to their fights and that sometimes sucks, because when they die i often die with them.
21:53.34harldephinsome people even do that on purpose so they're assholes, but some don't and an add-on like that (if it already existed) might be of help preventing stuff like that.
21:54.53mjcok, since it's caturday, I am the proud human of two kittens: http://gallery.mac.com/michaeljosephcohen/100170/photo/web.jpg
21:54.58mjcas of today
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21:55.55harldephinor it may generelly help some people seeing whether they can fight one target without adding another. except in instances where some enemies share the same aggro anyway.
21:59.54vithosis it possible to control a modifier by conditionals in dogtag? i'm trying to do something like this without having to write the entire tag chain twice [PercentHP:Percent:(HP(known=true) ? :Paren)]
22:04.26vithosEllipsis ping :P
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22:07.45Ellipsispong vithos
22:08.20Ellipsiswell no there's no easy way to do that
22:08.38vithosah, so i'm stuck having full alternate versions of the whole thing? :/
22:08.51Ellipsisyeah, pretty much :(
22:08.56vithosoh well, just thought i'd make sure. thanks
22:10.10Ellipsisalways happy to help
22:11.03Ellipsismjc: those are so adorable, what are their names?
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22:12.15Camcisomeone gave me a blind macro,
22:12.40Camcicould i get it again? :P
22:13.41Camci#showtooltip Blind
22:13.49Camci./rw Blinding %t
22:13.54Camci./cast Blind
22:13.56Camcii guess?
22:13.57Camci^^
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22:31.06nevcairielanyone heard of a bug where the battleground scoredboard opens randomlny during a BG?
22:31.14nevcairielCant pin it down to some specific action or addon
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22:31.50Diaoi haven't seen anything like that
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22:35.25CIA-4403morgalm * r77850 10MorgDKP/ (8 files):
22:35.25CIA-44MorgDKP:
22:35.25CIA-44- Fixed custom event time
22:35.25CIA-44- Fixed DKP/time event not starting if already in a raid
22:35.25CIA-44- Fix display of high bid in justenough mode
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22:44.28CIA-4403funkydude * r77851 10/branches/StatBlocks/: create dir
22:45.17CIA-4403funkydude 07LDB * r77852 10StatBlocks/: StatBlocks: a place to fiddle with LDB conversion
22:48.48vithosnevcairiel: i used to always accidentally open it, so i changed the keybind from shift-spacebar to shift-control-spacebar and it never happened again
22:49.25nevcairielyeah i think the person crying at me with the bug actually jumped while using shift with clique all the time
22:49.32nevcairielwonder why thats a binding anyway
22:53.07vithosaha! sort of avoided duplicating much of the tag: [Status or (HP(known=true):Short:Append("/" MaxHP:VeryShort " (") PercentHP:Percent (HP(known=true) ? ")"))] --> 8341/8k (100%) or 100%
22:53.26nevcairielI would rather code lua
22:53.29nevcairielthen doing that shit :P
22:53.51nevcairielI should really write me a oUF layout
22:54.20vithosi was using oUF before, but not my layout
22:54.38vithosbut apparently dogtags doesn't eat babies anymore so i'm going back to the lazy way
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22:55.11vithosat least, it doesn't lock up my game briefly when my pet spawns or despawns anymore
22:56.26vithossigh, pitbull still lacks sharedmedia support for aura border textures
22:56.39nevcairielauras have borders?
22:57.02vithosyep. colored by buff type
22:57.25CIA-4403funkydude 07LDB * r77853 10StatBlocks/LibDataBroker-1.1.lua: StatBlocks: add in ldb1.1
22:57.48vithosor maybe they're just all colored green... hmm..
22:58.43vithosah lame, buffs are just other/own/weapon
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22:59.26vithosi kinda want them sorted by type for enemy targets for purging
22:59.50vithostries to remember if EBB can filter by type
23:06.08CIA-4403funkydude 07Zone * r77854 10StatBlocks/: create dir
23:13.11CIA-44buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * rf96bbf8 10/: Fix readme links
23:13.12CIA-44buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r7cee3a6 10/: Make addon loaded check case-insensative
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23:23.22CIA-44buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r795abde 10/: Make addon loaded check case-insensative
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23:27.35CIA-4403neotron * r77857 10MagicDKP_Client/ (. MagicDKP_Client.lua MagicDKP_Client.toc embeds.xml): MagicDKP_Client: Removed LibLogger as a dependency.
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23:29.31CIA-44MagicMarker:
23:29.31CIA-44- Send network updates when settings are changed for individual mobs. This data is queued and not sent during combat to avoid unnecessary spamming.
23:29.31CIA-44- Changed to use self.hasDebug etc due to change in LibLogger.
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