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00:04.57 | Yssaril | Eritnull: svn access can take a while to get sometimes |
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00:10.17 | aestil | http://ot.erxz.com/Aestil/WoWScrnShot_070408_165317.jpg |
00:10.27 | aestil | what is the 'second' cast bar? |
00:10.33 | aestil | lower middle of screen? |
00:10.47 | Hofer | Is there a way to make a simple kind of row and column setup in a frame? |
00:11.31 | Ellipsis | aestil: I think that's visual heal |
00:11.38 | Ellipsis | showing the overheal on the target |
00:13.05 | aestil | do i need to run that as a seperate mod from the pitbull module? |
00:13.23 | Stanzilla | if you want that bar...yes? |
00:13.26 | aestil | btw, i know that UI is completely and totally plageristic? |
00:13.34 | aestil | i don't want the bar, i want the visual heal part of pitbull. |
00:13.46 | Stanzilla | then you just need the pb module |
00:16.08 | aestil | the best part of this ui, so far, is the way i have 5 man party set up. |
00:16.10 | aestil | its pretty hot. |
00:16.22 | aestil | i doubt that its like... novel, but i havn't seen it before. |
00:16.24 | erikh | aestil: visualheal is a separate mod IIRC |
00:16.33 | erikh | it uses libhealcomm |
00:16.59 | erikh | at this point is just trying to get raiders to use libhealcomm |
00:17.26 | erikh | if they want to waste their mana overhealing that's fine |
00:17.31 | erikh | I just don't want to :) |
00:17.36 | Ellipsis | the pitbull_visualheal plugin uses libhealcomm. |
00:17.39 | aestil | what content are you doing? |
00:17.47 | aestil | cause what i like about it, is that it shows heals are coming |
00:17.51 | erikh | right now mostly hyjal |
00:17.54 | aestil | not to avoid overheal. |
00:18.13 | aestil | gurtogg/brutalis/twins, you proably aren't to worried about overheal. |
00:18.24 | erikh | eh, most of our direct healers go "wha?" when I say "escape heal" |
00:18.43 | Mytos | wha? |
00:19.10 | aestil | if they aren't going oom, it really isn't a problem i don't think. |
00:19.15 | erikh | aestil: the problem isn't as much an overhealing issue as a 5 seconds into the encounter "I'm oom" |
00:19.16 | Mytos | oh, ive never seen it termed that way |
00:19.48 | erikh | what's best are the pallies that need 3-4 pots to get through a single boss fight |
00:19.54 | erikh | anyways, i'm done griping |
00:20.29 | erikh | just released 2 months of work |
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00:20.41 | erikh | and now it's time to get a 6 pack and find something less constructive to do |
00:20.46 | aestil | well, yeah, going oom is stpuid. |
00:20.50 | Mytos | not nearly as good as the pallies that need 3-4 pots, have to have a manatide, have to have a 2nd shaman rotated in for a 2nd tide, and they start demanding an innervate |
00:20.53 | Yssaril | anyone have the russian globalstrings.lua? |
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00:21.47 | aestil | paladins getting innervate is nearly the stupidest thing i've ever heard. |
00:21.54 | aestil | a hunter might benifit as much. |
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00:23.12 | Ellipsis | wow |
00:23.14 | Hofer | whats aceDBoptions for? |
00:23.19 | Ellipsis | someone ported controlfreak to dogtag? x.x |
00:23.28 | aestil | what is controlfreak? |
00:23.30 | erikh | heh, that's why I chuckle a little when people make all this stink about mp5 being better than spirit |
00:23.32 | Mytos | yeah, i got gkicked last night on archimonde because a holy pally did exactly that |
00:23.40 | Ellipsis | controlfreak is Tekkub's solution to crowd control |
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00:23.58 | aestil | instead of magic marker? |
00:24.10 | erikh | <random shaman>: "can I have innervate"? <me> "no" |
00:24.20 | Ellipsis | no |
00:24.22 | Ellipsis | it's not for marking |
00:24.28 | Ellipsis | it's for actually casting/recasting/managing your CC |
00:24.33 | aestil | mp5 is better for pally |
00:24.35 | Nechckn | ControlFreak is pretty cool... 0 setup if you don't want to muck around |
00:24.45 | Nechckn | with just enough options if you want to "fiddle" |
00:24.59 | Mytos | yeah, but a pally with all mp5 and no spirit isnt gonna get crap from an innervate, it runs entirely on spirit |
00:25.13 | Ellipsis | I just find it amusing that someone actually took the time to write it in dogtag |
00:25.16 | aestil | intersting point, a pally should never get an innervate |
00:25.20 | erikh | aestil: well sure, but these guys gear to burn through their mana as fast as possible and then wonder why I only use innervate on myself and occasionally a priest |
00:25.38 | erikh | MOAR +HEAL |
00:25.42 | erikh | I love that. |
00:25.43 | erikh | anyways... |
00:25.48 | Nechckn | agreed Ellipsis |
00:26.00 | Mytos | yeah, i got tossed from a guild last night for telling a pally to go bang himself because he got all mad i wouldnt innervate him on archimonde |
00:26.04 | Nechckn | someone with too much time on their paws =) |
00:26.23 | Ellipsis | it's probably worse that I'm itching to go through and tweak/optimize it.... |
00:26.24 | Stanzilla | Ellipsis: link |
00:26.37 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6037.msg226766#msg226766 |
00:27.27 | Stanzilla | what the hell |
00:27.45 | Ellipsis | he makes it look kinda lisp-ish |
00:29.25 | Dashkal | that's one hell of a tag... |
00:31.16 | Hofer | what is DogTag |
00:31.50 | Odlaw | BARK BARK |
00:32.04 | Ellipsis | a library that uses dynamic tags for displaying information about players and npcs |
00:32.05 | erikh | gets mildly amused when people equate parens and lisp |
00:32.28 | Ellipsis | I said it *looked* that way, not that it actually had anything in common :P |
00:32.51 | Tekkub | just... wow |
00:33.07 | Tekkub | that trumps Kennel >> Ace2 |
00:33.17 | Tekkub | s/>>/-->/ |
00:33.33 | Ellipsis | well, sincerest form of flattery and all? |
00:33.48 | Hofer | Oh neat, GrdiLayoutPlus looks like somefine I was make'n by hand... woot |
00:34.37 | Tekkub | I guess so... should it be a complement that people who rewrite my stuff only make it worse? |
00:34.47 | Hofer | Can we add our own properties to GridLayoutPlus aside from Group/Class/Role like say Arena Team Name? |
00:35.41 | Ellipsis | Tekkub: maybe that just means you're perfect and it's all downhill from your code |
00:36.08 | Tekkub | well, as long as the rules don't apply to me if I'm perfect, I guess I won't complain |
00:36.36 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't, it sounds like you have it pretty sweet |
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00:45.10 | Ellipsis | eyes Bruners |
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00:48.40 | Hofer | Whats the difference between when to use an API or an Event |
00:49.52 | Ellipsis | the really short version: API functions are what you call to do something (e.g. send a chat message), events are what tell you something happened (e.g. you received a whisper from someone) |
00:50.08 | Hofer | ahhh |
00:50.13 | mjc | SO nice to have a dual monitor setup again |
00:51.17 | Hofer | So to get the Opponent Team Name of an arena match I might use the ARENA_TEAM_ROSTER_UPDATE, and then use the API GetArenaTeam to achieve that goal? |
00:51.19 | erikh | oh, awesome |
00:51.36 | erikh | now the spammers are advertising anti-virus programs |
00:51.50 | erikh | sorry, "anti-virus programs" |
00:52.19 | mjc | erikh: crawled out of your pre-millenium hole eh? |
00:52.26 | Ellipsis | Hofer: sounds reasonable enough, though I'm not familiar with that particular area of the API so I can't verify that it will work :P |
00:52.26 | mjc | they even sold that shite in stores ca. 1997 |
00:52.40 | erikh | eh? |
00:52.43 | [Liquidor] | What's -v(-1) ? |
00:52.53 | mjc | erikh: things like "winfixit" |
00:53.09 | erikh | no, I'm talking about phishers |
00:53.26 | Hofer | Ellipsis: gotcha |
00:53.34 | erikh | it used to be they'd forge virus scanning emails and your boss sending you doc files |
00:53.47 | erikh | now they're just scraping the bottom |
00:53.54 | mjc | erikh: MySpace Official AntiVirus is a good one ;D |
00:53.58 | mjc | "" |
00:54.02 | erikh | heh |
00:54.14 | erikh | myspace is a freakin' virus |
00:54.28 | erikh | it's the new-millenia geocities |
00:54.29 | mjc | my thoughts exactly |
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00:54.42 | erikh | actually, sorry; geocities pages normally had content |
00:54.53 | turdfurgenson | Hello, I'm selling my world of warcraft level 70 night elf |
00:54.54 | mjc | less porn on geocities too |
00:54.55 | turdfurgenson | priest. Asking 50 dollars. It is an active account. |
00:54.57 | turdfurgenson | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&n=Thust |
00:55.06 | Ellipsis | dies laughing |
00:55.17 | erikh | turdfurgenson: markeedragon.com |
00:55.27 | mjc | playerauctions is good too |
00:55.49 | kaiden | lawl |
00:56.06 | turdfurgenson | CAN som1 here buy |
00:56.11 | turdfurgenson | 50 dollars is cheap price |
00:56.14 | turdfurgenson | u can resell it for 100 |
00:56.26 | kaiden | you are so gonna get banned :P |
00:56.29 | erikh | turdfurgenson: although I'll be honest; no one's going to pay for the modern-day equivalent of a green machine |
00:56.41 | erikh | well if they're smart that is |
00:56.57 | turdfurgenson | why will nobody buy my wow account? |
00:56.59 | turdfurgenson | does it have bad stats |
00:57.06 | mjc | and because you spam |
00:57.18 | erikh | turdfurgenson: take it to a forum where people are looking to trade |
00:57.22 | Ellipsis | this channel is not known for account selling, in fact any ToS violations are generally frowned upon |
00:57.24 | erikh | most people in here probably aren't |
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00:57.37 | turdfurgenson | aww |
00:57.44 | turdfurgenson | comon this account give me a hunchback |
00:57.52 | erikh | heh |
00:58.06 | turdfurgenson | what |
00:58.12 | turdfurgenson | it made me look like a notre dam |
00:58.32 | Ellipsis | I'm pretty sure you're not going to win anybody over with that argument |
00:58.37 | kaiden | your moms face made me look like X_x |
00:58.43 | kaiden | is talking to ellipsis |
00:58.44 | kaiden | :P |
00:59.06 | Ellipsis | you've met my mom? |
00:59.10 | turdfurgenson | Please somone buy |
00:59.14 | kaiden | yes! |
00:59.26 | kaiden | at the mcdonalds behind the dumpster! dont ask what i was doing there... |
00:59.27 | Ellipsis | aww, guess tomorrow won't be much of a surprise then :( |
00:59.32 | kaiden | lol |
00:59.45 | kaiden | you aren't bringing her are you? |
00:59.48 | kaiden | i'll bedevastated.. |
00:59.55 | turdfurgenson | mjc is a freelance journalist |
00:59.56 | Ellipsis | ...um... |
01:00.04 | turdfurgenson | who lives in florida |
01:00.09 | mjc | lol ok |
01:00.11 | mjc | I write software :P |
01:00.12 | Ellipsis | o.O |
01:00.21 | kaiden | Elli, michael wants to know if you can wait til sunday so we can have time to rent one of those steam cleaners |
01:00.24 | kaiden | and make it all perfect |
01:00.28 | Ellipsis | O.O |
01:00.31 | kaiden | if tomorrow is necessary though i can take off early :P |
01:00.41 | Ellipsis | well of course we can wait, it's not like we're in a big hurry |
01:00.49 | kaiden | ok just checking :P |
01:01.05 | kaiden | has to clean your carpet |
01:01.06 | kaiden | haw |
01:01.12 | turdfurgenson | MJC |
01:01.13 | Ellipsis | I lol'ed |
01:01.15 | turdfurgenson | 3053 Ainslie D |
01:01.15 | aestil | Ellipsis is pretty cute, for a midget. |
01:01.17 | turdfurgenson | Boca Raton, FL 33434-2911 |
01:01.18 | mjc | no. |
01:01.19 | turdfurgenson | (561) 218-0275 |
01:01.25 | mjc | never lived in boca. |
01:01.25 | turdfurgenson | mjc has comcast |
01:01.29 | turdfurgenson | his IP is 69-180-107-46 |
01:01.40 | Ellipsis | tell us something we don't know? |
01:01.49 | mjc | I live in fort lauderdale, not boca. |
01:02.01 | kaiden | someone got carried away with their visual traceroute program |
01:02.02 | kaiden | haha |
01:02.22 | mjc | and I don't have a landline, nor have I ever had a 561 number. |
01:02.23 | aestil | Ellipsis: i called you a midget |
01:02.30 | Ellipsis | aestil: and? |
01:02.38 | aestil | i was expecting some sort of violent response. |
01:02.46 | Ellipsis | I've learned to accept my own shortcomings (pun intended) |
01:02.51 | aestil | or, are you medicated atm [hides] |
01:03.00 | turdfurgenson | YA RIGHT MJC |
01:03.00 | kaiden | ellipsis, i r getting drunk wifout you! |
01:03.04 | aestil | i'm trying to get a 'rise' out of you. |
01:03.07 | aestil | LOL I MAEK PUN |
01:03.13 | kaiden | i bought 75$ worth of smirnoff ice |
01:03.15 | kaiden | lol |
01:03.16 | Ellipsis | aestil: I don't have the right parts for that |
01:03.17 | mjc | boca is 35 minutes north of me. |
01:03.24 | aestil | i was refering to your height. |
01:03.33 | Ellipsis | seriously turdfurgenson, his IP doesn't even trace to boca raton |
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01:04.00 | Ellipsis | ...that was easier than I was expecting |
01:04.08 | mjc | yay |
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01:04.28 | mjc | and to think |
01:04.31 | mjc | I was trying to help him |
01:04.33 | mjc | lol |
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01:04.48 | turdfurgenson | Hello, I'm selling my world of warcraft level 70 night elf |
01:04.49 | turdfurgenson | priest. Asking 50 dollars. It is an active account. |
01:04.51 | turdfurgenson | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&n=Thust |
01:04.53 | turdfurgenson | Does anyone want to buy? |
01:05.01 | Ellipsis | you already spammed this channel turdfurgenson, try a different one |
01:05.03 | mjc | someone get him klined. |
01:05.11 | turdfurgenson | SORRY |
01:05.13 | turdfurgenson | 4got mate |
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01:05.22 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77808 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Clock/ (. Broker_Clock.lua Broker_Clock.toc): Broker_Clock: uses LibBroker-1.1 |
01:05.34 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77809 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Durability/ (. Broker_Durability.lua Broker_Durability.toc): Broker_Durability: uses LibBroker-1.1 |
01:05.53 | mjc | Ellipsis: fyi though the MIA route for comcast handles boca too :P |
01:06.01 | mjc | but I still don't live in boca. LOL |
01:06.09 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77810 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Mail/ (. Broker_Mail.lua Broker_Mail.toc): Broker_Mail: uses LibBroker-1.1 |
01:06.11 | Ellipsis | true, but your IP is a fort lauderdale address :P |
01:06.14 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77811 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_SysMon/ (. Broker_SysMon.lua Broker_SysMon.toc): Broker_SysMon: uses LibBroker-1.1 |
01:06.18 | mjc | yeah |
01:06.27 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Borlox * r77812 10Fortress/Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua): Fortress: uses LibBroker-1.1 |
01:06.57 | kaiden | trades route to MJC.... i am detecting that you use comcast |
01:07.00 | kaiden | and are in fort lauderdale |
01:07.03 | Ellipsis | he's a genius! |
01:07.05 | kaiden | and your name is Michael J. Cohen |
01:07.07 | kaiden | ZOMG |
01:07.15 | aestil | so, are there rules to how many things you can commit at once? |
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01:07.20 | aestil | i mean... why does it matter? |
01:07.23 | kaiden | you are also in channels #cakephp #xml #wowace #macports #ffmpeg #mplayer and #git |
01:07.24 | Ellipsis | aestil: there's that one called Common Sense |
01:07.31 | mjc | lol kaiden |
01:07.31 | kaiden | isn't that amazing that i got all that info |
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01:07.36 | mjc | kaiden: and your mom smells :D |
01:07.40 | Ellipsis | omg kaiden is a hacker, someone ban him!!!111oneone |
01:07.44 | aestil | Ellipsis: well, if you have a bunch of stuff to commit, should you like, not commit it? |
01:07.47 | kaiden | that's only because she's dead mjc |
01:07.52 | kaiden | when she was alive she smelled quite nice |
01:08.05 | mjc | kaiden: assuming you like the smell of fish |
01:08.14 | kaiden | my father was a fisherman :( |
01:08.17 | kaiden | i can't help it |
01:08.22 | Ellipsis | aestil: what do you mean? |
01:08.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!n=chatzill@74.85.13.*] by Cairenn |
01:08.45 | aestil | i dunno, trying to understand what the commotion was betweek Tekkub and ackis |
01:08.52 | kaiden | yay thanks ciarenn ;) |
01:08.57 | kaiden | erm cair |
01:08.59 | Ellipsis | nudges another cookie Cairenn's way |
01:09.02 | Jaxine | what's the most efficient way to use a function like UnitStat in a macro? for example, i don't want to do this: /script nil,agi,nil,nil=UnitStat("player",2) .. but something like UnitStat("player",2)[1] ? |
01:09.02 | Cairenn | :) |
01:09.04 | aestil | anyways, i have to go run some diagnostic on this computer. |
01:09.33 | kaiden | Ellipsis: you are gonna love the bat cave once we get it done |
01:09.36 | kaiden | i'm painting the walls black |
01:09.44 | kaiden | and putting heat reflective material on the outside walls |
01:09.45 | kaiden | :) |
01:09.45 | Ellipsis | Jaxine: if you only need the second return, the most common way to do it is local _, agi = UnitStat("player",2) |
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01:10.05 | Ellipsis | you can also use lua's select() function, but that's not generally any better unless the argument number is variable |
01:10.07 | Jaxine | is there a way to use it without using vars? |
01:10.26 | Yssaril | anyone have the russian globalstrings.lua? |
01:10.28 | Ellipsis | kaiden: sweet |
01:10.55 | Ellipsis | Jaxine: select(2, UnitStat("player", 2)) |
01:10.55 | kaiden | Ellipsis: we put in a cat door already so the cat could get in and out of the room |
01:10.56 | kaiden | heh |
01:11.02 | Ellipsis | yay, kitteh ^-^ |
01:11.04 | kaiden | poor dog can't use it since she can't walk yet |
01:12.23 | Jaxine | does select index at 0 or 1 |
01:12.39 | Ellipsis | 1 |
01:14.36 | Jaxine | base, stat, posBuff, negBuff = UnitStat("unit", statID); .. i'm getting 764,764,579,0 |
01:14.45 | Jaxine | i would expect 185 for base ? |
01:17.11 | Ellipsis | shrugs |
01:17.27 | Ellipsis | what you would expect and what is delivered are rarely the same when it comes to Blizz's API |
01:18.43 | Jaxine | that can be expanded to many APIs |
01:18.49 | Jaxine | at least the ones i've worked with :) |
01:19.28 | Ellipsis | some might say that's a defining feature of bad APIs :P |
01:20.00 | Yssaril | i like to call them dAPI is :P d is for dynamic :) |
01:20.31 | Jaxine | where the behavior of the API is undefined until you get a support call about it |
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01:28.09 | Yssaril | anyone have a problems with http://yssaril.pastey.net/90644? basically all it does(suppsoed to do) is convert the 3 globalstrings into their capture patterns so that i can deformat them |
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01:54.25 | Hofer | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBattlefieldWinner does this give me a 1 or 0 based on who the winner is or does it just tell me who the winner is? |
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02:00.28 | Ellipsis | 0 for horde, 1 for alliance |
02:00.45 | Ellipsis | or in an arena, 0 for green and 1 for yellow |
02:05.00 | Hofer | Hrmmm dang, I wana capture the team name of the winner. |
02:09.19 | Andune | so I'd like to get heal broadcasts from everyone in the raid.. I see there's HealComm-2.0 and IncomingHealsLib. Which should I use? And if people are already using HealBot, is either going to already pick up sync'ing from that? |
02:09.50 | Ellipsis | Andune: you want to use LibHealComm-3.0 |
02:09.52 | Andune | erikh, that is, looking to have everyone install one lib. pick one, or is one better? |
02:10.13 | Andune | ellipsis: hmm ok. |
02:10.15 | Ellipsis | all the others are no longer used, it's finally standardized to the one lib |
02:10.24 | Andune | sweet. ty for the info :) |
02:10.32 | Andune | HealBot too? |
02:10.43 | Ellipsis | I believe so |
02:10.46 | Andune | how nice :) |
02:17.47 | Andune | hmm looking at Healbot I don't see any direct support. Maybe LibHeal picks up on healbot broadcasts? I'll find someone tonight and give it a test.. |
02:18.32 | Ellipsis | last I heard healbot was still sending its own proprietary protocol, which LHC will never listen for |
02:18.42 | Ellipsis | but healbot does attempt to listen for LHC broadcasts |
02:18.56 | Andune | ah.. damn. so healbot users (not me) will see my heals, but I won't see theirs |
02:18.59 | Ellipsis | (warning: information is quite out of date and may or may not still apply) |
02:19.19 | Ellipsis | correct, to ensure that everyone sees everyone's, any healbot users should also run LHC standalone |
02:19.21 | Andune | well will just have to get all our healers to install LibHealComm-3.0 then :) |
02:20.09 | Andune | just getting tired of losing people here or there 'cuz all 5 healers decide to heal the same person. :P |
02:21.16 | Ellipsis | nothing like a big green bar to tell everyone that the heals are covered |
02:21.30 | Ellipsis | although you might also want to try making sure people have specific assignments |
02:21.46 | Ellipsis | (and actually follow those assignments) |
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02:23.26 | Andune | lol yeah, unfortunately we have problems with that. I'm trying to help fix that, but definitely seeing big green bars for other peoples heals is a step in the right direction :) |
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02:26.59 | Poul|Laptop | Anyone happen to have a link to a combatlog.txt for download somewhere, at work and dont have wow installed here :() Would be nice with one from a raid etc |
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02:49.05 | erikh | Andune: I'm fairly certain if libhealcomm is loaded heals will be broadcasted without any additional help |
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02:54.05 | Andune | erikh: yep i'm not worried about that. I just don't have everyone running LHC - most of our healers already have HealBot installed tho. |
02:54.20 | erikh | meh, weenies. |
02:54.48 | Andune | hmm. ButtonFacade seems to interfere with OmniCC. :( |
02:56.26 | Andune | well, some layouts do, some don't. The one I like (Serenity), of course, does. feh. |
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03:00.00 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
03:00.05 | Zhinjio | Happy 4th, folks. |
03:01.00 | Funkeh` | bah humbug |
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03:03.45 | CIA-44 | 03antiarc * r77813 10HiveMind/core.lua: HiveMind: Event fix |
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03:08.44 | Funkeh` | snuggles seerah |
03:09.09 | Seerah | snuggles funky |
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03:12.54 | erikh | snuggles fabric softener |
03:15.39 | Ellipsis | sounds messy |
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03:21.34 | erikh | the bear disagrees |
03:21.40 | erikh | ... in a cheerful manner. |
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03:58.00 | CIA-44 | 03nemes * r77814 10Chinchilla/ShowHide/ShowHide.lua: |
03:58.00 | CIA-44 | Chinchilla: Remove "magic number" infinite loop checks as multiple battleground |
03:58.00 | CIA-44 | queues calls MiniMapBattlefieldFrame:Show() within the epilon. Machine/timing |
03:58.00 | CIA-44 | dependent checks like this should never be used. If someone can replicate the |
03:58.00 | CIA-44 | "infinite loop" problem for me, I'll fix it. |
03:58.08 | Tekkub | OMGSPAM! |
03:58.35 | Funkeh` | shut up please |
03:58.42 | Tekkub | ^^ |
03:58.51 | Ellipsis | needs moar chill pill |
03:59.00 | Corgan | ^^ |
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04:02.53 | kenlyric | ^_ |
04:04.28 | Ellipsis | picks kenlyric's other eye up off the floor, dusts it off, and tapes it to his face |
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04:20.08 | dre^ | greetings... I have sort of a weird problem, and it's not technically an Ace issue, but maybe you can help... on only one of my toons, /recount show is essentailly a no-op... when I hit return, it's as if it didn't register the keypress... the intput line is not dismissed, and I can never issue the command |
04:20.44 | dre^ | have tried /recount reset and deleting the saved varialbes for this toon |
04:23.54 | Tenchworks | you may want to ask that in #curseforge and #WoWUIDev since there are some developers that only hang out in certian channels |
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04:24.15 | dre^ | thanks for the tip |
04:24.54 | dre^ | I"ll try hand-hacking the account-wide variables... |
04:25.17 | Tenchworks | also while it's unlikely you might have a conflicting slash command, I've never had that issue before but I've seen wierd things happen when addons used the same slash commands |
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04:25.45 | dre^ | hmm, possible... maybe there is some old version getting loaded just for this toon... |
04:25.48 | Tenchworks | there's an ace addon called Slashconflict that can check if you have conflicts |
04:25.54 | CIA-44 | 03nemes * r77815 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Capping.lua Addons/ClassTimer.lua NShakedown.lua): |
04:25.54 | CIA-44 | NShakedown: |
04:25.54 | CIA-44 | - Fix Capping and ClassTimer |
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04:26.01 | dre^ | but for example, /recount shows the menu |
04:26.13 | dre^ | almost all of the commands work |
04:26.20 | dre^ | just not show or toggle |
04:26.29 | Tenchworks | and odd problem indeed |
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04:41.41 | Venara | ~seen ckknight |
04:41.43 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 2d 5h 44m 47s ago, saying: 'yea, that seems best, sylvanaar'. |
04:42.25 | Venara | damn :/ |
04:42.55 | Venara | anyone else bored enough to help me with a little problem? :> |
04:43.18 | Olison | ~asktoask |
04:43.19 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
04:43.32 | Venara | okay... |
04:43.33 | Venara | so |
04:43.48 | Venara | http://epochenkampf.lima-city.de/dreamroot/pictures/pitbullnamed2.jpg |
04:43.54 | Venara | i happen to have a problem with pitbull |
04:44.09 | Venara | my Player, Target and ToT frame have exactly the same configuration |
04:44.15 | Venara | but they look quite different |
04:44.25 | Venara | and i just can't figure out why |
04:44.36 | Venara | (you may have to zoom the picture to see it) |
04:46.41 | Kurax | Do people really care about those? |
04:47.11 | Kurax | I mean, you even have to zoom to see the difference |
04:47.30 | Venara | i'm a perfectionist, i want them to look exactly the same -.- and, ya, you have to zoom the picture because its very dark |
04:47.41 | Venara | but you can see the difference ingame without zooming ^^ |
04:48.05 | Venara | i mean, to hell with the border stuff, what annoys me is that the manabars look different |
04:49.05 | Kurax | Make sure you're using the same texture |
04:49.47 | Venara | i am. i had 3 people looking at the configuration. all 3 frames are identical in configuration, but still they look different |
04:52.07 | Nargiddley | because of the way wow scales things, things being out by 1 pixel like that is very hard to avoid. |
04:53.10 | Venara | i know that, but the manabars are not off by 1 pixel, they look like a different texture was used, which just isn't the case |
05:00.39 | CIA-44 | 03cwdg * r77816 10Bartender4/locale/zhCN.lua: |
05:00.39 | CIA-44 | Bartender4: |
05:00.39 | CIA-44 | update zhCN |
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05:07.40 | RaydenUni | Salamander is taken! |
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05:20.10 | RaydenUni | so i managed to take the ClassTimer options window and draw the top section off the page |
05:20.13 | RaydenUni | now i can't move it back |
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05:28.18 | Aiiane | do /ace3 |
05:28.24 | Aiiane | and choose ClassTimer in the dropdown |
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05:41.06 | CIA-44 | 03nemes * r77817 10Chinchilla/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
05:41.06 | CIA-44 | Chinchilla: |
05:41.06 | CIA-44 | - Change the name of the "clock" to "day night indicator" |
05:41.06 | CIA-44 | - Add the new minimap clock, to be introduced in 2.5; this won't appear in 2.4 |
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05:52.42 | CIA-44 | 03nemes * r77818 10NDragIt/NDragIt.lua: |
05:52.42 | CIA-44 | NDragIt: |
05:52.42 | CIA-44 | - add TimeManagerFrame, to be added in 2.5 |
05:52.42 | CIA-44 | - enable UI Panel offset by default at 10, -10; my addon, so I can set the defaults how I like ;-) |
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06:39.49 | Venara | nevcairiel: are you there? |
06:43.14 | Venara | probably still sleeping :> |
06:46.18 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77819 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Fixed another race/sex bug. |
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06:49.43 | Ellipsis | that sounds vaguely sexy |
06:49.49 | NeoTron_ | lol |
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07:29.44 | Venara | does anyone know if prat has a "clamp to screen" option or something like this? i'm trying to drag my chatframe to the upper left corner but it just bounces back if the tab goes off the screen |
07:31.40 | erikh | no, that's good ol' blizz |
07:31.49 | erikh | had that problem long before I used prat |
07:32.23 | Venara | did you find a solution? |
07:35.26 | Venara | eirkh? |
07:35.30 | Venara | *erikh |
07:36.25 | erikh | "don't do that then" |
07:37.27 | Venara | sucks, i want my chat to be there -.- |
07:37.54 | Venara | just redid my whole UI and the plan was "Chat upper left corner" |
07:38.00 | Venara | blizzard ruins my plans :/ |
07:39.19 | erikh | is there some reason you need to see the tab? |
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07:42.10 | erikh | zomgbuffs is awesome |
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07:45.06 | Venara | I need to see the tab in order to move the chat. moving the chat results in *BOUNCE BACK*. if i just hide the tab my chat has like 4 pixels screen distance horizontal, but like 20 horizontal because you just fucking cant move the tab out of the screen |
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07:47.22 | aestil | can this http://ace.pastey.net/90646 be changed easily to use 'secure hooks' whateve that means? |
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07:54.46 | Ellipsis | why would it need to? |
07:54.55 | nevcairiel | morning |
07:58.13 | durcyn | Venara: does it readjust if you log out and set it manually in layout-cache.txt? |
07:58.50 | Venara | durcyn: didn't try it. but i imagine it would. thx for the tip anyway, i'll try |
07:59.05 | Venara | nevcairiel: do you have a moment? |
08:00.06 | nevcairiel | ? |
08:00.36 | Venara | i'm trying BT4 right now and i noticed that the paging doesn't seem to work correctly |
08:01.09 | Venara | i have my healign spells on B1 and damage spells on B2. so by pressing ALT i page the buttons from B2 to 1 |
08:01.32 | Venara | but the bar still trys to cast healings spells instead of damage spells |
08:01.45 | nevcairiel | wrong keybindings, i assume |
08:01.58 | Venara | nope, i clicked the bar |
08:02.17 | nevcairiel | the icon does change? |
08:02.57 | Venara | yep, switches, but if i click on them (with a hostile target ofc) i says just "Invalid Target" and so i assume it trys to cast healing spells |
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08:04.23 | nevcairiel | did you try targeting yourself to see if it really casts a heal? |
08:04.37 | Venara | let me check |
08:04.58 | Venara | targeting myself it changes to "You have no target" |
08:05.37 | nevcairiel | do you have auto-assist activated? |
08:05.57 | Venara | no |
08:06.09 | Diao | probably blizz's behavior of |
08:06.14 | Diao | attempted auto-selfcast |
08:06.22 | Diao | since alt by default is the selfcast modifier |
08:06.27 | Venara | ah |
08:06.31 | Venara | that could be it |
08:06.34 | Diao | only way to get around it |
08:06.37 | Diao | is to make macros |
08:06.49 | Venara | let me change the paging modifier |
08:06.49 | Xinhuan | or make alt NOT your key to switch bars :) |
08:06.55 | Diao | yeah |
08:06.59 | Diao | use shift or ctrl |
08:07.47 | Venara | my shift key is a little overused already for Clique and stuff |
08:08.04 | Xinhuan | how is that even remotely related ;p |
08:08.31 | Venara | well, since i hold it nearly the whole raid, it would constantly show my damage spells instead of healing ones? |
08:08.47 | Xinhuan | then swap it the other way around! |
08:08.53 | Diao | lol |
08:08.58 | Diao | or just use ctrl |
08:09.00 | Venara | mh, thats new :> |
08:09.00 | Diao | if that's unused ;) |
08:09.07 | Venara | ctrl is overused as well ^^ |
08:09.13 | Diao | >.> |
08:09.34 | Diao | try enabling auto-assist if you have bt4 |
08:09.39 | Xinhuan | get more mouse buttons |
08:09.54 | Venara | i already have 6, how much more can one have? :> |
08:09.54 | Diao | then it should try to selfcast on you, and since that fails it will try to auto-assist to your target |
08:09.58 | Diao | voila |
08:10.01 | Diao | problem solved |
08:10.16 | Xinhuan | in any case, once you have a spell bounded to clique, it shouldn't really need to be on your bars at all |
08:12.14 | Venara | i know, but i can't have all my downranks bound to my mouse |
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08:12.52 | Xinhuan | do you use all 5 mouse buttons |
08:13.09 | Diao | keybind! |
08:13.15 | Diao | with mouseover macros |
08:13.55 | Megalon | i'm a keyboard turner and clicker! |
08:13.59 | Venara | okay, weird |
08:14.01 | Venara | shift works |
08:14.02 | Venara | but |
08:14.30 | Venara | when i dont press shift anymore while in combat it shifts to bar4 instead of back to bar1? oO |
08:14.40 | Diao | ..what? |
08:14.47 | Diao | er |
08:15.01 | Diao | what's default bar state set to |
08:15.12 | Venara | don't page |
08:15.15 | nevcairiel | you probably pressed 1-6 while having shift down |
08:15.20 | nevcairiel | and have action-bar-paging on |
08:15.21 | Diao | or that, yeah |
08:15.26 | Diao | unbind action bar pages in default keybinds |
08:15.36 | Diao | remembers Serennia nerdraging about that at MLG |
08:15.37 | nevcairiel | or just turn that function off in the BT4 config |
08:15.53 | Venara | mh, k |
08:23.40 | Venara | nevcairiel: do you happen to know if blizzards clamp to screen function for the chat frame can be turned off? |
08:24.04 | nevcairiel | ChatFrame1:SetClampedToScreen(false)? |
08:24.05 | nevcairiel | no idea |
08:24.19 | nevcairiel | will probably end up in weird behaviour :P |
08:24.43 | VonhintenHOME` | All I know is, don't try to hide it |
08:24.50 | Venara | can i just input that with a /run into my chat? |
08:24.53 | VonhintenHOME` | I did that once, and the game froze up :) |
08:24.58 | Venara | worth a try i guess |
08:25.06 | Venara | ah okay |
08:25.24 | Venara | i don't try to hide the whole frame |
08:25.36 | Venara | i just want the chat frame in the upper left corner of my screen |
08:25.59 | Venara | problem is, it bounces back as soon as the Tab leaves the screen |
08:27.39 | Venara | mhh, ChatFrame1:SetClampedToScreen(false) didn't return any errors, but it didn't work either |
08:28.19 | Diao | doesn't those commands silently fail |
08:28.21 | Diao | don't* |
08:28.44 | Venara | why? |
08:29.00 | Diao | no idea |
08:29.32 | Diao | i just remember by default they fail silently when the command doesn't work |
08:29.46 | Venara | i guess i could try adding "Fane" to it and see if it still bounces back. |
08:30.19 | nevcairiel | maybe its dont manually |
08:30.22 | nevcairiel | and not with clamped |
08:30.28 | nevcairiel | dont=done |
08:30.43 | nevcairiel | with clamped you wouldnt be able to move it off screen in the first place |
08:31.25 | Venara | conclusion? it can be moved off screen but it bounces back in |
08:33.28 | durcyn | is there a default OnDragStop handler for any of the frames involved? |
08:33.38 | Venara | i'll just try what durcyn said, editing the y coordinate in layout-cache |
08:34.54 | Venara | durcyn: that's beyond my knowledge |
08:35.09 | Venara | and |
08:35.23 | Venara | editing it in layout-cache = fail. bounces back on login |
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08:39.05 | durcyn | and if you move ChatFrame1Tab off of the top? |
08:40.09 | Venara | thats what im trying to do. that's when its bouncing back, as soon as the Tab goes off screen |
08:40.21 | Venara | or did you mean move to tab to, like the bottom of the frame? |
08:40.25 | Venara | *the |
08:40.27 | durcyn | the latter |
08:40.58 | Venara | if you tell me how to do that i'll try. i think there's no option for it in prat |
08:41.59 | nevcairiel | there is something prat actually doesnt have a option for? wow |
08:42.01 | Ellipsis | unfortunately, it's really really really difficult to do such things due to the way the chat frame code works (oh the things I would do to the person who wrote that piece of...) |
08:43.10 | Venara | i assume you don't like prat Ellipsis? |
08:43.12 | Venara | ^^ |
08:43.27 | nevcairiel | nah Ellipsis was ranting about the blizzard chat code |
08:43.39 | Venara | ah k |
08:43.54 | durcyn | eh, you could try ChatFrame1Tab:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", ChatFrame1, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, 0) but i'm not convinced it'll do much of value |
08:44.03 | Venara | well, you can do nearly everything with the tabs, only moving them is not possible |
08:44.44 | Venara | that actually works durcyn |
08:44.47 | Venara | unfortunately |
08:44.52 | Venara | you can't click it anymore |
08:44.57 | nevcairiel | The problem is that most of the code was written before Blizz realized how popular the addons will become |
08:44.59 | durcyn | yeah, welcome to hell. |
08:45.14 | nevcairiel | and chat-code is from that time |
08:45.25 | durcyn | the chat frame click handlers are beyond shit |
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08:51.34 | Venara | sucks :/ |
08:53.07 | durcyn | on a whim, does it still reposition if you detach any other docked frames and just ChatFrame1Tab:Hide() ? |
08:53.50 | durcyn | though, on saying that, i'd imagine the dock itself is the problem rather than the tabs |
08:54.04 | Venara | funny thing is |
08:54.31 | Venara | there is a "DOCKED 1" in chat-cache fo ChatFrame1. but setting it to 0 does exactly nothing |
08:54.42 | durcyn | ChatFrame1 IS the dock |
08:54.58 | durcyn | and it's the only frame you can dock other frames to |
08:55.00 | Venara | ah, the fog is lifting |
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09:03.47 | Venara | mh, setting the file to read only didnt do the trick either :/ |
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09:11.35 | starlon | Hmm |
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09:33.47 | theoddone33 | magtheridon is a cute fight |
09:33.51 | theoddone33 | just did it for the first time in a pug |
09:33.58 | TNZe | did you stand in the cleave? |
09:33.59 | theoddone33 | downed him for the first time rather |
09:34.07 | theoddone33 | there's a cleave? |
09:34.17 | TNZe | you didnt go into the cleave?? |
09:34.29 | theoddone33 | gonna say no I didn't |
09:34.38 | theoddone33 | I did finish next to last on healing though |
09:34.51 | Mytos | gotta love when you get quaked into the cleave |
09:34.59 | TNZe | yeah |
09:35.04 | TNZe | its like |
09:35.12 | TNZe | "I can make it out in *cleaved*" |
09:35.34 | Lukian | in macros for arena, should target=party1 through 5 work? |
09:36.40 | Mytos | dont see why it shouldnt |
09:41.41 | Lukian | doesn't seem to :/ |
09:44.36 | theoddone33 | http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/Dezaris-/lolLockpic.gif best gif ever |
09:45.30 | Ellipsis | =[ |
09:45.53 | Mytos | thats pretty funny acctually |
09:46.31 | theoddone33 | yeah it's good |
09:48.56 | theoddone33 | pretty sure all the people on arenajunkies hate their class |
09:49.02 | theoddone33 | even though they're all 1800+ |
09:49.31 | theoddone33 | I like priest because I've played a paladin in 2v2 |
09:49.48 | theoddone33 | none of those people like priest though |
09:51.17 | Mytos | i hate arena |
09:55.29 | theoddone33 | I still find it the most interesting thing in the game |
09:55.31 | theoddone33 | for a little while at least |
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09:58.55 | Mytos | resilience killed pvp |
09:59.18 | Eritnull | Nevcairiel u here? |
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10:05.26 | theoddone33 | I kind of agree that resilience killed pvp |
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10:05.33 | theoddone33 | or at least changed it into something kind of less interesting |
10:05.38 | theoddone33 | but I'm not sure it was that great before either |
10:07.55 | theoddone33 | I'd prefer to see more strategy based stuff but wsg/ab/av are years old and most people still have no idea how to win |
10:07.56 | Arrowmaster | it was only good when i was the best geared warlock on the server and could 1shot people with shadowbolt |
10:08.23 | theoddone33 | I got a screenshot of my first 1-shotting |
10:08.46 | theoddone33 | it was a great moment |
10:08.56 | theoddone33 | but these days gear advantage is just shifted |
10:09.10 | Arrowmaster | i have a screenshot of a 'wtf' oneshoting |
10:09.22 | theoddone33 | 20k soulfire! |
10:09.23 | cncfanatics | theoddone33: do you find 1shotting in pvp fun ? :s |
10:09.26 | Arrowmaster | it wasnt a large hit at all the rogue just had shit gear |
10:09.36 | Mytos | i dunno, i just hate that on my new 70s i can outskill 90% of people, but i cant kill them because theyve been 70 longer and are atleast wearing full s2 so theyve got 300+res and ive got 100 |
10:09.40 | theoddone33 | yes, I had a lot of fun one-shotting people |
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10:09.50 | theoddone33 | Mytos: yeah that was frustrating |
10:10.04 | theoddone33 | not that I outskilled people on my new class |
10:10.10 | Arrowmaster | well back then it was still balanced, we could oneshot people sometimes |
10:10.11 | theoddone33 | but I know what you mean |
10:10.16 | Arrowmaster | but melee also raped our face |
10:10.21 | Arrowmaster | but melee still do |
10:10.43 | theoddone33 | seems like most clases have a 2v2/3v3 combo they can win games in |
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10:10.50 | theoddone33 | even though it's all terribly inbalanced |
10:10.52 | theoddone33 | imbalanced ? |
10:10.59 | theoddone33 | yeah that second word |
10:11.19 | Arrowmaster | i was one of those warlocks that only got my sucubus out in battlegrounds when somebody started pissing me off |
10:11.45 | Arrowmaster | and that usually resulted in warriors QQing |
10:11.47 | cncfanatics | no felpuppy ? |
10:11.52 | theoddone33 | all I know is that playing the priest side of priest rogue really makes me want to play rogue again |
10:12.08 | Arrowmaster | back in the day i was lazy, i pvped with my imp |
10:12.16 | cncfanatics | :o |
10:12.17 | cncfanatics | why ? :p |
10:12.24 | Arrowmaster | i didnt want to farm shards |
10:12.27 | Mytos | 1v1 they can make it balanced, any more than that and itll never be balanced, and now that blizzard is pushing arena so much people think it should be, its an oxymoron |
10:12.49 | cncfanatics | I hate WoW pvp :p |
10:12.55 | Arrowmaster | me too |
10:12.56 | cncfanatics | if I want PvP I'll go play an online shooter |
10:13.01 | cncfanatics | thats 100% skill based at least |
10:13.12 | Mytos | exactly |
10:14.43 | theoddone33 | 10% latency based |
10:14.53 | cncfanatics | heh, true |
10:14.56 | Zyndrome | back when you kicked peoples ass with your shiny AQ\Naxx epics ... those were the days , it pushed people to do PvE to pew pew in PvP ... today it's just a joke |
10:15.17 | Arrowmaster | and not 20% luck, 30% gear, and 50% oh your a warlock fighting a warrior? yeah this 50% says your going to lose |
10:15.20 | Mytos | i hate that pve gear is useless in pvp now |
10:15.35 | theoddone33 | it's not |
10:15.45 | theoddone33 | it's supposed to be |
10:15.51 | theoddone33 | but apparently high rated rogues use a lot of it |
10:15.56 | Megalon | Mytos: play a rogue :p |
10:16.22 | zipper_ | <Mytos> i hate that pve gear is useless in pvp now |
10:16.24 | Arrowmaster | rogues are the only class thats using more pve gear than pvp right now since resilence doesnt really do that much for them |
10:16.31 | zipper_ | t6 paladins? glaives rogues? |
10:16.56 | Arrowmaster | i do arenas in my pve gear when i do them |
10:16.57 | FryGuy | glaives? |
10:17.03 | Arrowmaster | but thats because i dont have any pvp gear |
10:17.04 | zipper_ | pve gear should be useless in pvp. Just like pvp gear should be useless in pve. So you cant 1-shot people in your pve gear anymore? Though luck |
10:17.19 | FryGuy | i stopped playing before they nerfed the raid instances |
10:17.28 | FryGuy | but what are these glaives you speak of |
10:17.41 | zipper_ | FryGuy, glaives = legendary swords from illidan |
10:17.49 | Zyndrome | oh and lets ban arenas too, it has ruined the game ... "wait? I can't use my goblin rocket launcher? where's the fun in that?" |
10:17.51 | theoddone33 | I like having separate gearsets for separate things |
10:18.03 | theoddone33 | but it crowds my bags pretty effectively |
10:18.13 | zipper_ | FryGuy, it is possible for rogues to have 4-piece bonus from T6 _and_ S3 at the same time (while wielding the glaives) making their dps a lot higher than your average s3 rogue |
10:18.43 | zipper_ | Zyndrome, you can use your rocket boots and invul belt =) |
10:18.47 | FryGuy | so they're just swords then |
10:18.56 | FryGuy | i thought it was like a throwing weapon :p |
10:19.01 | FryGuy | and i was intrigued |
10:19.03 | Arrowmaster | the best swords in the game |
10:19.11 | zipper_ | FryGuy, if you wanna call 10-15% more dps than anyone else for "just swords" then yeah =P |
10:19.17 | FryGuy | well |
10:19.32 | FryGuy | is it a pair? |
10:19.38 | zipper_ | yea |
10:19.45 | zipper_ | have some haste proc too if you have both |
10:19.52 | theoddone33 | the set bonus is 30% melee haste for 10s chance on hit |
10:19.58 | theoddone33 | 28% technically |
10:20.24 | FryGuy | better than thunderfury? :) |
10:20.31 | zipper_ | lol |
10:20.41 | zipper_ | thunderfury is for tanking =S |
10:20.51 | FryGuy | do they drop together? |
10:21.01 | Zyndrome | glaives never drop together |
10:21.04 | zipper_ | nah, they drop seperately |
10:21.07 | Zyndrome | we've had 3 offhands so far -_- |
10:21.08 | FryGuy | i mean is it like a pair :p |
10:21.08 | zipper_ | mainhand/offhand |
10:21.13 | zipper_ | nah |
10:21.18 | FryGuy | or is it like dal'rends |
10:21.32 | FryGuy | and how the mainhand never drops |
10:21.50 | theoddone33 | yeah it's the 2008 dal'rends |
10:21.51 | Zyndrome | but then we have this (rofl) random loot system |
10:21.52 | Mytos | i know a guild on tich thats had the mainhand drop 3 times and never seen the offhand |
10:22.10 | Zyndrome | like a guild on my realm who got both glaives in their 2 first kills... |
10:22.16 | zipper_ | oO |
10:22.36 | Zyndrome | while we have been at illidan since March or something and only seen 3 offhands |
10:23.05 | Arrowmaster | we had 2 mainhands by our 3rd kill, but havent seen one since |
10:25.59 | theoddone33 | level 14 is pretty amazing these days |
10:26.08 | theoddone33 | I'll pull with thrown and bonfire's will take the mob to 10% |
10:26.28 | Zyndrome | the bonfire blessing makes my hunter alt go ":(" though |
10:26.40 | Zyndrome | proc = OH SH- aggro |
10:26.53 | theoddone33 | 10% exp is win |
10:27.15 | theoddone33 | I should put that on and get a mage to farm SM for me for a day |
10:27.20 | theoddone33 | 20-40 in 8 hours |
10:27.25 | Mytos | so yeah, just watched hancock, was really awesome |
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10:28.21 | elite3vil | Woo, so to add to the fact we couldn't get into sunwell this week 'cause people were on vacation... one of our officers cleaned out our guild bank and xfer'd servers. |
10:28.37 | Zyndrome | that's a little extreme |
10:29.08 | Zyndrome | we just decided to slack a bit since we can't get people for raids either, due to summer vacations |
10:29.33 | elite3vil | Yeah. |
10:29.52 | elite3vil | this guy took all our sunmotes, 20 epic gems, and 1500g |
10:29.56 | theoddone33 | summer is the season for 60 hour weeks in my line of work |
10:29.56 | erikh | wow, that's screwed up. |
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10:31.06 | elite3vil | (1500g was >10% of our gbank... which is sad in itself) |
10:31.59 | erikh | is the fire festival thingy still up/ |
10:32.15 | elite3vil | Yeah |
10:32.33 | Mytos | yeah, our gbank is locked up like a vault, only officers can see more than one tab, noone takes money out, and noone takes items out except by the gm mailing it to them |
10:32.35 | erikh | cool; milking that stupid ribbon dance for all it's worth on my alts |
10:33.06 | elite3vil | Mytos: He was an officer, and friends with the gm |
10:33.09 | erikh | Mytos: ours is similar, although we have 3 tabs for healer/dps/tank |
10:33.18 | erikh | if you attend >80% you get 3 withdrawals a day |
10:33.21 | theoddone33 | pretty sure guild banks ar ea bad idea |
10:33.23 | erikh | and GM controls cash |
10:33.31 | erikh | eh, it's better than the old system |
10:33.32 | theoddone33 | but I guess it's still better than "one guy's spare toon" |
10:33.36 | theoddone33 | right |
10:33.43 | erikh | "mail a bunch of shit to a toon you'll never see again" |
10:33.47 | erikh | exactly |
10:33.49 | elite3vil | lol. |
10:34.24 | elite3vil | His reason for leaving "I want to beat the game before wotlk comes out" |
10:34.38 | erikh | I love that; "beat" the game. |
10:34.43 | elite3vil | The guild he xfer'd to is on M'uru. We were on Twins. |
10:34.48 | erikh | hc progression guilds amuse me |
10:35.07 | theoddone33 | upi |
10:35.11 | theoddone33 | you're in sunwell |
10:35.14 | theoddone33 | that's pretty close to beating the game |
10:35.34 | erikh | does it roll credits after you kill kael? |
10:35.45 | theoddone33 | only if you have gladiator title |
10:35.46 | Mytos | seeing as theres only waht, 5 in sunwell, and thats gonna be the last content patch before expansion, looks like your gonna beat the game |
10:36.22 | elite3vil | Mytos: There's 6, we've killed 3. He transferred to a guild that's killed 4 |
10:36.46 | Mytos | oooo one boss farther, hes movin up in the world lol |
10:36.47 | theoddone33 | and they know he steals gbanks? |
10:36.57 | erikh | likely not |
10:37.03 | erikh | either that or they don't care |
10:37.04 | elite3vil | theoddone33: Yeah, I had a chat with one of their officers... they didn't seem to care |
10:37.07 | Mytos | yeah, make sure you let them know, hell get a gkick and hten hes just fucked |
10:37.19 | erikh | heh, I know what our gm does when people QQ to him |
10:37.32 | erikh | he sends them a polite message full of words I wouldn't say in front of my mother |
10:37.36 | erikh | they usually don't write again |
10:37.49 | cncfanatics | damn this sucks, I have a motherfucking headache and can't remember half what I did yesterdaynight :( |
10:38.03 | erikh | that said, if someone raped a gbank to come to our guild I imagine he'd at least look into it. |
10:38.33 | Mytos | sounds like you had the perfect holiday man |
10:38.47 | elite3vil | He was even nice enough to write "LOL" in one of the tabs using Destruction pots |
10:38.49 | erikh | yeah, until you get told what you did on monday |
10:39.09 | erikh | (in front of everyone else) |
10:39.37 | Vulcanus | he probably kissed a guy or something ;p |
10:40.11 | Vulcanus | goddammit there's Creative ads in WAU >( |
10:40.16 | cncfanatics | nah Vulcanus :p |
10:40.48 | Mytos | he probably tossed the salad |
10:41.22 | Megalon | choked someones chicken! |
10:41.45 | Mytos | did a donkey show |
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10:42.55 | CIA-44 | 03nevcairiel * r77823 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/ (10 files): LibKeyBound-1.0: fix locale handling and add dummy ruRU file |
10:43.02 | nevcairiel | man toadkiller really fails |
10:43.15 | cncfanatics | why nevcairiel ? |
10:43.19 | nevcairiel | LibKeyBound didnt even work at all for ruRU clients because it didnt have a fallback to enUS |
10:44.07 | nevcairiel | so it just didnt load |
10:45.04 | erikh | wow doesn't provide automatic fallback? |
10:45.09 | erikh | that's ... kind of scary |
10:45.33 | nevcairiel | its not wows fault |
10:45.52 | nevcairiel | its how authors handle translations |
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10:47.16 | nevcairiel | and i was wondering how it was possible that BT4 didnt work at all for ruRU people |
10:47.23 | nevcairiel | it was all toadkillers fault =P |
10:47.42 | Ellipsis | but really, what isn't? :) |
10:48.04 | theoddone33 | there are ruRU people? |
10:48.22 | nevcairiel | yeah blizz released the language pack not too long ago, iirc |
10:48.52 | nevcairiel | i think its still beta or something, though |
10:49.11 | erikh | a locale system that doesn't fallback to C? that's just... primitive :P |
10:50.20 | nevcairiel | C in addons? huh? |
10:50.45 | theoddone33 | C is pretty primitive <flamewar> |
10:51.05 | nevcairiel | C's primitiveness is what it makes good |
10:51.26 | theoddone33 | it's a blessing and a curse |
10:51.35 | erikh | no, C is the default locale |
10:51.43 | erikh | sheesh, locales are an ISO standard :) |
10:52.00 | erikh | I imagine a very large chunk of wow is written in C anyways |
10:52.14 | theoddone33 | c++, yeah |
10:52.24 | nevcairiel | all of it, i guess :P |
10:52.26 | erikh | probably a mix of both, as most projects go |
10:52.32 | theoddone33 | oh man |
10:52.35 | theoddone33 | I hope not, that's a mess |
10:52.46 | erikh | I don't think Lua has a C++ binding |
10:52.50 | erikh | for embedding |
10:53.05 | nevcairiel | Writing "pure" C++ is kinda hard |
10:53.09 | nevcairiel | you always end up with C funcs |
10:53.09 | erikh | exactly. |
10:53.23 | theoddone33 | what? |
10:53.38 | erikh | and you always end up with one asshat on the team that doesn't understand that C and C++ are very different beasts, even when classes aren't used |
10:53.56 | erikh | and basically writes strongly-typed C |
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10:54.15 | nevcairiel | most of the time that isnt as bad as it sounds, either |
10:54.41 | erikh | eh, most of the problems with C are programmers that don't understand pointers as well as they should |
10:54.55 | theoddone33 | heh |
10:54.56 | nevcairiel | heh yeah, but thats not a C++/C problem |
10:55.04 | Ellipsis | pointers are fun, I particularly like the funny things you can do by abusing them! |
10:55.18 | erikh | oh no, just griping because I'm tired, old and cranky |
10:55.22 | theoddone33 | or the fact that parts of the C standard API are almost impossible to use correctly even after years of experience |
10:55.32 | erikh | hahahaha |
10:55.33 | erikh | hahahaah |
10:55.35 | erikh | hah! |
10:55.38 | erikh | "C standard API" |
10:55.41 | erikh | you surely jest! |
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10:55.52 | Ellipsis | standard? what does that word even mean anymore? |
10:55.59 | theoddone33 | well there are a couple of C standards |
10:56.11 | erikh | the closest thing C has to a "standard API" is POSIX and even that's a joke |
10:56.19 | nevcairiel | C89! |
10:56.21 | theoddone33 | c89 has an api |
10:56.29 | theoddone33 | and it's terrible |
10:56.55 | erikh | C89 is more than a language spec? I did not know that. |
10:57.04 | theoddone33 | language spec also has an api |
10:57.22 | theoddone33 | much like the C++ spec defines STL and such |
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10:57.56 | theoddone33 | boo last my 10% exp buff due to typing |
10:57.58 | theoddone33 | lost |
10:58.04 | theoddone33 | damn you C! |
10:58.09 | nevcairiel | C89 defines all functions that a C89 compliant library and compiler has to support |
10:58.33 | nevcairiel | so you have a "Standard API" that all C89 systems support |
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10:58.55 | cncfanatics | is midsummer over already ? |
10:58.57 | cncfanatics | anyone know ? |
10:59.02 | theoddone33 | that all support "poorly" |
10:59.12 | erikh | ah, I thought it was just BNF and semantic rules |
10:59.14 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: over today, yes |
10:59.22 | cncfanatics | ty |
10:59.23 | theoddone33 | I am not cynical at all |
10:59.26 | nevcairiel | theoddone33: better then C99 :P |
10:59.28 | erikh | didn't realize it was like the C++ standardization effort |
10:59.31 | theoddone33 | true |
10:59.37 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna go to bed again (yes at 1pm). g'night all |
10:59.45 | theoddone33 | I actually like c99 |
10:59.48 | theoddone33 | as far as C goes |
10:59.49 | erikh | (did that ever happen, btw? I always find out about that stuff late) |
10:59.56 | nevcairiel | C99 happend, yeah |
11:00.02 | erikh | no, the C++ spec |
11:00.03 | nevcairiel | but not alot of compilers support it fully |
11:00.05 | theoddone33 | in 99 |
11:00.05 | nevcairiel | ah |
11:00.06 | erikh | like, an official one |
11:00.08 | theoddone33 | oddly enough |
11:00.14 | nevcairiel | C++2003 happend, yea |
11:00.18 | erikh | not just people building compilers out of bjarne's book |
11:00.23 | erikh | very cool |
11:00.34 | theoddone33 | c++0x is about to happen |
11:00.43 | theoddone33 | which will make the language more complex for almost no gain in usefulness |
11:00.45 | theoddone33 | yay! |
11:00.54 | nevcairiel | native threading is the win |
11:01.06 | Sebastian | Hi guys, Is there a bug in wowaceupdater 1.9.46.746? It doesn't download the required libs for some AdddOns when I do WITHOUT externals, huh? |
11:01.08 | theoddone33 | http://www.kuzbass.ru:8086/docs/isocpp/ for when you're bored |
11:01.15 | erikh | yeah, I normally pull out c (and even rarer C++) just long enough to create a FFI to a dynamic language I like |
11:01.19 | cnc|sleep | Sebastian: thats a bug in the addon |
11:01.24 | cnc|sleep | most likely at least |
11:01.40 | erikh | theoddone33: I thought that was C++'s goal? to preserve programmer salaries by increasing the bar every few years |
11:01.40 | Ellipsis | knocks cnc|sleep out with a baseball bat |
11:01.46 | nevcairiel | C++0x + TR1 implement a lot of useful funcationality, imho |
11:01.57 | theoddone33 | no you're thinking of the fake interview with stroustrup |
11:02.16 | erikh | oh, the unicode operator one |
11:02.22 | theoddone33 | or joking and accidentally referenced the fake interview with stroustrup |
11:02.37 | erikh | what's really disgusting is, perl has that feature |
11:02.39 | erikh | just not for operators |
11:02.42 | Sebastian | Thank you cnc|sleep |
11:03.00 | erikh | if you turn on utf8 support, you can name variables and functions anything in the utf8 character space |
11:03.13 | nevcairiel | hah |
11:03.33 | Ellipsis | that does not sound like fun |
11:03.42 | theoddone33 | I glanced over the c++0x spec |
11:03.46 | erikh | well, the great thing about the perl community is that they're largely self-moderating |
11:03.56 | theoddone33 | it does have some useful stuff but most seems unnecessary and pointless |
11:04.04 | theoddone33 | that's too strong |
11:04.12 | erikh | superfluous? |
11:04.22 | theoddone33 | most of it seems like adding more complexity to a language that is already too complex |
11:04.35 | theoddone33 | and adding more potentially dangerous features to a language that has many of them |
11:04.52 | erikh | yeah, that's why I chew ruby these days when viable |
11:04.56 | theoddone33 | dangerous for the purposes of writing and understanding clean code |
11:05.12 | theoddone33 | I would like ruby if they didn't try to legislate whitespace syntax |
11:05.32 | erikh | only line endings are legislated, and even that is very flexible |
11:05.42 | erikh | it's nowhere near as draconian as python |
11:05.53 | theoddone33 | you get a warning if you call a function like this |
11:05.57 | theoddone33 | func (blah) |
11:06.01 | theoddone33 | instead of func(blah) |
11:06.05 | theoddone33 | which is so ridiculous |
11:06.11 | erikh | yeah, because "func blah" is going to be gone in 2.0 |
11:06.11 | theoddone33 | it's hard to express the extent of the ridiculousness |
11:06.25 | erikh | and func(blah) and func (blah) are going to win |
11:06.37 | theoddone33 | not sure I follow |
11:06.41 | erikh | that's just the grammar getting pissy |
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11:06.58 | theoddone33 | to be honest |
11:06.58 | erikh | ruby's parens are optional |
11:07.00 | theoddone33 | I consider it a bug |
11:07.01 | erikh | right now, pre-2.0 |
11:07.26 | erikh | eh, ruby grew up very organic and it's slowly getting formalized |
11:07.38 | theoddone33 | I still am not sure what you mean |
11:07.56 | erikh | func(blah) and func blah are equivalent |
11:08.00 | erikh | right now |
11:08.14 | theoddone33 | and func (blah) isn't? |
11:08.20 | theoddone33 | func<space>(blah) |
11:08.22 | erikh | func (blah) is ambiguous in the current syntax: it could either be the result of the grouping of (blah), returned to func |
11:08.28 | erikh | or sending blah to the func method |
11:08.34 | theoddone33 | ah |
11:08.37 | theoddone33 | yeah that's a bug, heh |
11:08.53 | erikh | yeah, but *so* many things depend on the optional paren syntax they can't just blindly axe it |
11:08.59 | erikh | so 2.0 is there to correct the problem |
11:10.04 | erikh | perl has oddities like that too: grep 1 || 2, @list f.e. |
11:10.14 | erikh | I got yelled at for doing that once. |
11:10.16 | theoddone33 | perl is bad on most levels |
11:10.30 | theoddone33 | ruby I view as the only serious competitor to python |
11:10.38 | theoddone33 | for major scripting tasks |
11:10.48 | erikh | it's loose syntax allows for some amazing feats in metaprogramming, and as far as scriping languages goes it's faster than most |
11:10.58 | theoddone33 | its = perl? |
11:11.02 | erikh | yeah. |
11:11.26 | erikh | that said, I've been using it long enough to develop a healthy hatred for it |
11:11.48 | erikh | puts food in the fridge with mod_prel |
11:11.51 | erikh | eh, mod_perl |
11:12.35 | theoddone33 | it's hard to beat for quick one-off scripts if you're going for compactness |
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11:13.09 | theoddone33 | I do all that in python these days though because it turns out I can type fast and I don't need to use a language that prefers obscurity over clarity |
11:13.42 | nevcairiel | I never understood how people could actually read and understand the more obscure perl parts |
11:14.02 | theoddone33 | I'm sure it' snot hard after you do it for a while |
11:14.18 | theoddone33 | I'm stuck at not understanding why people would want to read and understand the more obscure perl parts |
11:14.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
11:14.54 | erikh | that's the thing.. with rare exception most of the well-accepted perl is cleanly written |
11:15.06 | erikh | it's just that a LOT of noobs got jobs writing perl |
11:15.08 | erikh | a LOT of them. |
11:15.10 | theoddone33 | you mean what |
11:15.12 | theoddone33 | like CPAN? |
11:15.14 | theoddone33 | is clean? |
11:15.29 | erikh | heh, have you looked at sourceforge.net lately or rubyforge? |
11:15.32 | erikh | CPAN is par |
11:15.44 | erikh | there's good/bad/ugly |
11:16.03 | theoddone33 | I haven't kept up with perl for a while |
11:16.20 | theoddone33 | we have an asset conversion system at work that uses it with C bindings |
11:16.32 | theoddone33 | which I write python scripts and have them os.system call perl scripts |
11:16.32 | erikh | eh, a lot of the chaff went off to do other things |
11:16.35 | theoddone33 | it's cute |
11:16.50 | erikh | mostly things involving something other than programming |
11:17.14 | erikh | the largest problem with perl right now is that it's not going anywhere |
11:17.21 | theoddone33 | my favorite part is when I have python calling perl, which calls into C, which calls perl again |
11:17.28 | erikh | heh |
11:17.38 | erikh | do that without shelling :) |
11:18.05 | erikh | oh, oh man. |
11:18.07 | theoddone33 | I wrote a version in python of one of the converters |
11:18.13 | theoddone33 | and made it interact intelligently with perforce |
11:18.24 | theoddone33 | instead of batch p4 edit, perl convert.pl, p4 add |
11:18.25 | erikh | about 6 months ago I picked up maintainership for an old ruby database interface suite |
11:18.38 | erikh | in there was a sybase driver |
11:18.45 | theoddone33 | and the convert time for everything went from like 2-3 hours to 15 minutes |
11:18.49 | erikh | the sybase driver was the only thing in the whole set that was in pure C |
11:18.56 | erikh | so I ignore it, because hell, it's sybase |
11:19.08 | erikh | finally I get to it.. and examine the code |
11:19.23 | erikh | every function is bound to an equivalent ruby method, which is normal |
11:19.42 | erikh | but the bodies of the functions are just calls to ruby's API to... evaluate ruby |
11:19.49 | erikh | and return the result of the eval |
11:19.52 | theoddone33 | ooh |
11:19.54 | theoddone33 | nice |
11:20.05 | erikh | yeah, I'm still playing janitor with that project |
11:20.46 | erikh | anyways, enough war stories, it's time for bed... nice chatting with you all. |
11:21.01 | theoddone33 | war stories are the best |
11:21.34 | erikh | eh, if I'm feeling ballsy I'll start going off about xerox.com's mod_perl codebase |
11:21.46 | theoddone33 | I could listen to "one time we ran across a bunch of code that passed std::string by value and then hashed it immediately inside every function" stories all day |
11:23.15 | erikh | doesn't lua have its own table support? |
11:23.20 | erikh | anyways, I really need to sleep |
11:23.28 | theoddone33 | yeah c++ |
11:23.31 | theoddone33 | in this case |
11:24.07 | theoddone33 | I gotta be careful who I bad mouth though because they might play WoW and/or be in this channel and/or read the logs |
11:24.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
11:24.38 | nevcairiel | who knows who is listening.. :) |
11:25.09 | Fisker- | has rape with nevcairiel |
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11:37.25 | CIA-44 | Whisp 20080705: |
11:37.25 | CIA-44 | - Setting Ace3 externals |
11:40.29 | CIA-44 | 03anea * r77826 10Whisp/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
11:40.29 | CIA-44 | Whisp 20080705: |
11:40.29 | CIA-44 | - Ace3 rebuild of the original Whisp |
11:40.29 | CIA-44 | - Support for modules |
11:40.29 | CIA-44 | - Several features now come as modules |
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11:51.27 | CIA-44 | 03anea * r77827 10Whisp/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
11:51.27 | CIA-44 | Whisp 20080705: |
11:51.27 | CIA-44 | - Versioning ftw, missed a few files at upload. |
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11:59.03 | CIA-44 | Whisp 20080705: |
11:59.03 | CIA-44 | - Localisation fix. |
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12:37.56 | digmouse | is there any open API for AtlasLoot? |
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12:41.24 | CIA-44 | Bartender4: big restructuring, split the options from the code and moved individual modules into subdirs |
12:41.24 | CIA-44 | - expect big breakage if you try to update without completely restarting wow |
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13:26.58 | Vulcanus | local functions can only be called in the file it is defined in? |
13:27.25 | nevcairiel | unless you pass the reference somehow |
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13:28.19 | Vulcanus | okay, thanks. Looking into the thought of making my mods API-style and not just global every function, but its split into multiple files so have to be careful XD |
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13:46.03 | Fisker- | explodes nevcairiel |
13:56.41 | Tenchworks | ~seen ackis |
13:56.44 | purl | ackis <n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 1d 12h 49m 51s ago, saying: 'wow swg tcg!?!!? ahhhh'. |
14:06.37 | zipper_ | heh |
14:06.44 | zipper_ | nice quote =P |
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15:14.54 | Rudol | hi, I dont get a activation email for the forum account... if I hit "Need another activation email?" it takes a while an this appears: "An Error Has Occurred! A new activation email has successfully been sent." .. need help |
15:15.16 | Rudol | (there is still no email) |
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15:16.01 | Phay | hi all, is there any1 here who could help me make a module for button facade? |
15:16.28 | Phay | i want to be able to use button facade but with the default blizzard action bars |
15:17.07 | Phay | any1? |
15:17.20 | Vulcanus | any2 |
15:19.42 | Lukian | any3 |
15:19.59 | vithos | you mean like, Blizz_ButtonFacade? |
15:20.23 | Stanzilla | ^ is broken |
15:20.31 | Stanzilla | was not updated for the color changes in BF |
15:20.41 | vithos | ah |
15:22.07 | Phay | blizz button facade is out of date and is riddled with bugs unfortuneatly |
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15:29.29 | Phay | no1 wants to help phay :*( |
15:29.33 | Phay | ah well cya XD |
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15:34.53 | Rudol | damn, there is still no activation email for the forum :( |
15:37.57 | nevcairiel | forum mails are kinda broken |
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15:43.15 | Rudol | ah ok, thxfor the info nevcairiel |
15:43.26 | nevcairiel | we're looking into getting it fixed |
15:43.37 | nevcairiel | but the admin is away for the holiday weekend, it seems :P |
15:43.45 | Rudol | :) |
15:44.40 | Rudol | cu later in the forum then, if it works again ;) |
15:45.16 | haste | couldn't you just have manually activated the account :p ? |
15:46.26 | nevcairiel | I no can has admin |
15:46.31 | nevcairiel | Funkeh` could, however |
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15:48.07 | CIA-44 | Wishlist: |
15:48.07 | CIA-44 | -more req. corrections |
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15:51.11 | trek1 | xdcc list |
15:52.10 | Lukian | looks at trek1 strangely |
15:52.33 | Lukian | trek1, what are you expecting to find? pirated addons? |
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15:53.29 | digmouse | i just wish i dont get busted up for my commits |
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16:20.47 | nevcairiel | digmouse: what have you done that one might consider that? :P |
16:24.45 | Funkeh` | I think hes beed a bad boy |
16:24.50 | Funkeh` | been* even |
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16:34.05 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
16:34.05 | CIA-44 | - zhCN update |
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16:50.47 | Snago | lol @ http://www.explosm.net/comics/1333/ |
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16:52.50 | Fisker- | I AM INVINCIBLE |
16:56.00 | aestil | how do you get pet food that buffs them? |
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17:14.17 | Vulcanus | probs DBM or something :p |
17:15.37 | Snago | Andune: Probably Carbonite |
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17:37.40 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
17:37.40 | CIA-44 | - Enable legos for left and right click |
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17:43.59 | ag` | Tekkub: I have several plugins and a display using broker-1.1 now :) |
17:44.13 | CIA-44 | 03danielbarron * r77836 10RaidBuffStatus/ (Core.lua RaidBuffStatus.toc ReadMe.txt): |
17:44.13 | CIA-44 | RaidBuffStatus: |
17:44.13 | CIA-44 | - Fixed bug causing an error to pop up sometimes when the tank list is set up. |
17:44.20 | Tekkub | wewt |
17:44.33 | ag` | the display spawns legos for each plugin |
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17:47.20 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77837 10MagicTargets/ (MagicTargets.lua MagicTargets.toc): MagicTargets: Added FuBar as an optional dependency. |
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17:53.36 | aestil | i have a question about grid |
17:53.50 | aestil | given a space, lets say that space is wide enough for 5 groups wide |
17:54.11 | aestil | can i make it so that when you are in a 10 man, the 2 groups 'center' to that space for 5 groups? |
17:54.25 | aestil | and when its 5 groups, have it properly situated in the space? |
17:54.42 | DARKGuy | sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet, I just got my XFX 8600GT 256Mb XXX Zallman Fansink :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
17:55.00 | DARKGuy | whee wheee wheeeee 1280x1024 8x AA full WoW running happily :O |
17:55.34 | Gnarfoz | 8600gt's are... weak? |
17:55.43 | DARKGuy | well |
17:55.44 | Gnarfoz | but it's not like wow needs gpu power, anyway ^^ |
17:55.47 | DARKGuy | XD |
17:55.54 | DARKGuy | at least I can play Assassins's Creed happily |
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17:56.01 | DARKGuy | <.< it's playable, at least |
17:56.22 | Gnarfoz | how much did you have to pay for it, is the key question ;p |
17:56.22 | DARKGuy | my TV does the AA job, so no need to use AA ^_^ |
17:56.46 | DARKGuy | $293 :( |
17:56.50 | DARKGuy | but it's because my country sucks |
17:57.17 | DARKGuy | I'm kinda in doubt though, is 49ºC a good temp ? |
17:57.17 | Gnarfoz | wtf? $293? |
17:57.23 | DARKGuy | yeah |
17:57.29 | Gnarfoz | yes, don't worry about gpu chip temps |
17:57.36 | DARKGuy | people buy stuff out in other countries, they come here, and sell it for like 200% or something |
17:57.47 | DARKGuy | stupid taxes, prices, dollar, and inflation. |
17:57.55 | DARKGuy | and president |
17:57.55 | DARKGuy | :D |
17:57.56 | Gnarfoz | dunno, don't have geoIP support in xchat, no clue where you're from :p |
17:58.02 | DARKGuy | lol |
17:58.04 | DARKGuy | Venezuela :( |
17:58.13 | Gnarfoz | ah :\ |
17:58.46 | DARKGuy | it was a big change though, I had a 7200 before |
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18:01.55 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77838 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: MagicTargets: Fixed possible nil indexing error. |
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18:09.56 | Gnarfoz | indeed, that's even worse |
18:10.36 | DARKGuy | yup :p |
18:11.10 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz: still, it isn't that bad, what do you think? http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/08/07/05/dfz.png - http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/08/07/05/a4m.png |
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18:11.39 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77839 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.toc: MagicTargets: Added Tablet-2.0 as optional dependency so it's guaranteed to be loaded before the fubar plugin. |
18:11.54 | DARKGuy | whoops, going AFK for a quick lunch, brb ^^;; |
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18:27.57 | syeren | Funkeh`, is there anyway to move a bunch of Statblocks 'stuck' together ... together? |
18:28.31 | Funkeh` | yeah, stick them together |
18:30.03 | syeren | How do I do that :P? |
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18:31.24 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rec91b1c 10/: Add QID-fixing script |
18:31.30 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * re71a0c8 10/: QID fixes from debugger |
18:32.21 | Funkeh` | move them together.. |
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18:34.18 | syeren | Ah, it was hit and miss as to whether they all moved together or not Funkeh` :p |
18:34.22 | syeren | Hence my question sorry :p |
18:34.44 | Funkeh` | no idea what you're getting at |
18:35.06 | syeren | Well, sometimes if I dragged one of the group it would move by itself. |
18:35.12 | syeren | And then other times it would drag the whole group :p |
18:39.09 | Gnarfoz | libstickyframes-7.0 w/ statblock support |
18:39.10 | Gnarfoz | out now |
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18:41.32 | DARKGuy | Back ^_^. |
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18:59.08 | aestil | will libstickyframes mean bt4 has sticky frames now? |
19:03.12 | nevcairiel | no, bt4 will never use that library |
19:03.46 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Borlox * r77840 10Fortress/Fortress/Core.lua: |
19:03.46 | CIA-44 | Fortress: |
19:03.46 | CIA-44 | - Added OnEnter, OnLeave |
19:04.24 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77841 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_PvP/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Broker_PvP: pvp queue plugin |
19:06.14 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77842 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_PvP/: Broker_PvP: added externals |
19:07.06 | ag` | 7.0? |
19:09.14 | Fisker- | never you say? |
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19:17.51 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77843 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Tracking/Broker_Tracking.lua: Broker_PvP: added icon for no tracking |
19:18.03 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77844 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_PvP/Broker_PvP.lua: Broker_PvP: left click opens score |
19:19.08 | Primer | How does one move the pally power UI? |
19:19.17 | Primer | "Left click drag to move bars" doesn't do it |
19:19.27 | Primer | quite annoying |
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19:23.04 | Zyndrome | you can move it ... /pp config & unhide the drag-button |
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19:25.12 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77845 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: StatBlocks_Ammo: tweaks |
19:25.39 | Aiiane | Primer - do you see the dot that all of the other stuff is oriented around |
19:26.09 | Aiiane | if it's red, it's locked in position |
19:26.17 | Aiiane | if it's green it's movable |
19:26.46 | Primer | doesn't matter what color it is |
19:27.03 | Primer | several checkbox type options don't work either |
19:27.15 | Primer | for example, hide drag button, does nothing |
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19:28.18 | Primer | display -> hide drag handle |
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19:28.25 | Primer | click....nothiong |
19:29.43 | Ellipsis | are you getting errors? |
19:30.38 | Primer | yeah |
19:30.48 | Primer | forgot I had bugsack |
19:31.28 | Primer | bah, I can't paste into this rxvt.exe |
19:32.27 | Primer | http://sh.nu/p/24613 |
19:33.58 | Andune | hmm. I've asked Parrot to suppres 'Mana Spring', but I still see mana spring +mana messages.. |
19:37.30 | Andune | any ideas what I'm doing wrong? |
19:38.38 | Ellipsis | did you possibly suppress the buff as opposed to the actual mana gains? |
19:40.05 | Zhinjio | cc |
19:40.08 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
19:40.16 | Ellipsis | g'morning |
19:40.55 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
19:41.24 | Andune | ellipsis: hmm. |
19:41.40 | Andune | I just added 'Mana Spring' as a suppression |
19:41.47 | Andune | no other options there :P |
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19:46.08 | Gnarfoz | and... what does the actual mana gain look like? |
19:46.10 | Andune | ah, I see. It's filtering the text right before it goes to the notification. |
19:46.21 | Andune | rather than the original combat message. well darn. It's just saying +40 mana |
19:46.38 | Gnarfoz | ... no |
19:46.38 | Andune | I might want to see other mana increases, I just don't wanna see the spam from my totem :( |
19:46.42 | Gnarfoz | the combat log message >_< |
19:47.07 | Andune | combat log message says 'X gains 20 Mana from Mana Spring Totem V's Mana Spring' |
19:47.12 | CIA-44 | 03ag 07Plugins * r77846 10LibDataBroker-1.0/Broker_Mail/ (Broker_Mail.lua newmail.tga): Broker_Mail: Now works |
19:47.39 | Andune | however, I just looked at the code, and it's calling Parrot_Suppressions:ShouldSuppress(text) in Parrot_Display:ShowMessage, which seems to be getting the actual message to be sent, not the original combat log event |
19:47.42 | Gnarfoz | could also just set to filter gains under 41 mana ^^ |
19:48.02 | sb | bah - human rogue is OPed :( |
19:48.11 | Andune | because filtering on the word 'Mana' seems to work fine. |
19:48.18 | sb | stealth + perception = evil :/ |
19:48.43 | Andune | gnarfoz: yeah I may do that. Just would have preferred to only shutup the totem mana. ah well, sounds like it doesn't work that way. |
19:48.54 | Gnarfoz | ...yet |
19:49.00 | Andune | :) |
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19:49.28 | Andune | I searched the forums and didn't see anyone talking about suppressions not working, figured I couldn't be the only one and must be doing something wrong |
19:50.26 | Gnarfoz | certainly sounds wrong. |
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19:52.08 | Andune | well, it does work, just not the way I'd expect. :) |
19:53.10 | Gnarfoz | what use is it at all? |
19:53.12 | Andune | filter worked good |
19:53.18 | Andune | I'l use that for now |
19:53.25 | Gnarfoz | oO you can configure the wording on all events anyway |
19:53.33 | Gnarfoz | why would you suppress afterwards ^^ |
19:54.07 | Zhinjio | anyone can please explain spell hit cap? The table on wowwiki is making my brain ache |
19:54.46 | Zhinjio | I've got a mage friend who's being told that he can't come into SSC/BT because his spell hit isn't high enough. |
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19:54.53 | Zhinjio | his hit rating is... uh ... 82 |
19:54.57 | Gnarfoz | he should probably hit the cap, then. |
19:55.02 | Zhinjio | so what is the cap? |
19:55.07 | Gnarfoz | 168? |
19:55.13 | Gnarfoz | or somesuch. |
19:55.14 | Zhinjio | no shit? Jesus. |
19:55.26 | Zhinjio | seriously? That seems way high |
19:55.41 | Gnarfoz | btw |
19:55.42 | Gnarfoz | 202 spell hit rating (16%) needed to hit the 99% cap against raid bosses <-- |
19:55.45 | Zhinjio | the wowwiki table does not support that data. But then... I don't see how its decipherable at all |
19:55.47 | Gnarfoz | RIGHT in the "quick facts" info box. |
19:55.58 | Andune | modifiers are applied in the combat processing code, then ShowMessage is called on the result. So yeah, I could modify my totem messages to be 'foo' and then filter foo out.. |
19:56.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, because there's talents for all schools of magic to reduce it somewhat :p |
19:56.10 | Zhinjio | aha |
19:56.18 | Gnarfoz | Andune: you could, but... would you? :p |
19:56.24 | Andune | I might :) |
19:56.39 | Gnarfoz | Mage Elemental Precision Frost, Tier 1 + 1% per point, 3% max Fire and Frost spells only |
19:56.43 | Gnarfoz | also, right from the wowwiki page |
19:56.51 | Zhinjio | now I get it. |
19:56.53 | Gnarfoz | I don't know shit about caster theorycraft, but how could you miss that? :p |
19:56.55 | Zhinjio | thanks. |
19:57.05 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Spell_hit_chance < maybe not looking at the same page? ^^ |
19:57.05 | Zhinjio | I skipped tot he table, and didn'tcatch the earlier part |
19:57.14 | Gnarfoz | heh |
19:57.36 | Gnarfoz | oh yeah |
19:57.39 | Gnarfoz | I can see how that table is confusing |
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20:01.50 | AbsoRayne | Is there a problem with the new eePanels? O_o |
20:01.57 | AbsoRayne | 'new' |
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20:03.51 | Gnarfoz | way to be specific |
20:03.57 | AbsoRayne | ..\eepanels2\core.lua:1546: attempt to concatenate field 'name' (a nil value) |
20:04.02 | AbsoRayne | sorry was typing |
20:04.06 | CIA-44 | 03nevcairiel * r77847 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/Locale-enUS.lua: LibKeyBound-1.0: add a missing revision entry |
20:04.25 | Gnarfoz | hm, dunno. using eePanels 1 |
20:04.31 | durcyn | use kgpanels |
20:04.44 | Gnarfoz | no, don't |
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20:07.38 | AbsoRayne | @_@ |
20:07.47 | AbsoRayne | What the heck is making this error |
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20:16.34 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ckknight |
20:16.35 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 2d 21h 19m 39s ago, saying: 'yea, that seems best, sylvanaar'. |
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20:26.03 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77848 10MagicTargets/ (LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0.lua MagicTargets.lua MagicTargets.toc): MagicTargets: Made the fubar plugin specific to MT to avoid issues with libs. |
20:26.45 | Camci | Can a lvl 31 enter zul farak? :p |
20:29.11 | Ellipsis | enter, or survive? :P |
20:30.02 | Camci | enter |
20:30.04 | Camci | :P |
20:30.22 | elite3vil | Need to be 35 iirc |
20:30.44 | Camci | awww |
20:31.21 | Camci | what other "high" instnace can a lvl 31 go more then RFD? ^^ |
20:31.45 | Cryect | SM |
20:32.31 | Camci | aha |
20:32.36 | Camci | all 4 places? |
20:32.43 | Cryect | Yeah |
20:32.48 | Camci | cool thanks man :D |
20:34.35 | Zyndrome | glhf getting a group for anything sub-heroics |
20:35.09 | Camci | im boosting a friend |
20:35.12 | Camci | so np :) |
20:39.32 | Andune | didn't the color picker used to have a 'copy' functionality, so I can c&p colors easily? |
20:39.47 | Zyndrome | enhanced colour picker, yes |
20:40.05 | Andune | I knew I wasn't going batty. Just re-installed all the mods yesterday. I seem to have the basic one now :P |
20:43.37 | Andune | not havin any luck finding it, all searches are turning up a bunch of UI compilations. I guess I could just strip it from one of those, but any idea where I might find it standalone? |
20:44.08 | Andune | oh damn, I found it. different spelling of colour :) |
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20:44.23 | Andune | ty Zyndrome. |
20:44.55 | Zyndrome | either "color" or "colour" is fine, different spelling depending on region :C |
20:45.13 | Zyndrome | better rename the mod to ColorColour |
20:45.23 | Andune | heh |
20:47.56 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77849 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: updated blacklist |
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20:51.11 | erikh | Camci: unless you're looking for gear, staying *out* of instances is the fastest way to level a toon |
20:51.20 | erikh | strongly recommends Jame's leveling guide |
20:51.30 | Diao | actually |
20:51.36 | Diao | getting powered through instances is the fastest way to level |
20:51.53 | Dashkal | level 20s in SM with a pala pull-the-whole-damn-instance tank is pretty bloddy fast |
20:52.04 | Diao | yep |
20:52.38 | erikh | I could see that, but unless you have two accounts or have a "professional" doing it for you that option's not always going to be available |
20:52.42 | Diao | when i made my new hunter alt, i grabbed 3 friends at the same level |
20:52.52 | Diao | and borrowed my friend's holy pally |
20:52.56 | Diao | and used her to run us through instances |
20:53.00 | Dashkal | staying out is the best way to level solo :p |
20:53.01 | Diao | level 50 in 1 day /played |
20:53.15 | Diao | then i leveled normally after that |
20:53.16 | Diao | lol |
20:53.27 | erikh | and not to mention, I just hit 50 on a mage following that leveling guide and I'm now revered with all alliance factions :) |
20:53.37 | erikh | which makes that mount so much cheaper. |
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20:53.53 | erikh | ... and halfway to exalted with SW |
20:53.53 | Diao | meh, gold is so easy to get anyway ;p |
20:54.03 | erikh | yeah, but I don't like wasting it |
20:54.14 | Dashkal | I has a 70. 30 or so mins in IQD and I have a mount |
20:54.19 | erikh | got 3 toons to get epic flyers for |
20:54.42 | Dashkal | Too bad wildhammer/shadowpray are just alliance/horde and not in a specific faction for discounts |
20:55.05 | Gnarfoz | that's on purpose. |
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20:55.27 | Dashkal | wouldn't matter either way. just price it a lil higher to make up for the discount |
20:57.12 | Fisker- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XD-Picture_Card <- xD |
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21:04.24 | erikh | darkmoon's back in a few days, isn't it? |
21:06.53 | AbsoRayne | http://i27.tinypic.com/2edp75e.jpg Thoughts anyone? |
21:09.39 | Stanzilla | the font is...brrr |
21:10.34 | erikh | I like it :) |
21:10.36 | Diao | what bartexture is that |
21:10.39 | Diao | it looks nice :O |
21:10.48 | Diao | and the font is pretty futuristic |
21:11.20 | AbsoRayne | Hal K |
21:11.29 | AbsoRayne | And the font is Silkscreen |
21:11.47 | Diao | hal k |
21:11.50 | Diao | where would i get that? |
21:12.00 | Diao | and, is silkscreen a utf-8 font? |
21:12.02 | AbsoRayne | one second, have it bookmarked... |
21:13.04 | AbsoRayne | ok maybe I dont... |
21:14.31 | Diao | oh, never mind |
21:14.34 | Diao | just googled silkscreen |
21:14.38 | Diao | no extended characters :( |
21:15.07 | erikh | heh, I still can't figure out kgpanels |
21:15.25 | Kuosi | the pixelfont seems wrong sized in the ss =( |
21:15.54 | AbsoRayne | You can ninja the textures from one of my UI packs from Sharedmedia, Diao |
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21:16.43 | Diao | ah |
21:16.51 | Diao | Where can I find your UI packs? |
21:17.01 | AbsoRayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8207-RaynesBurntBlackCherryLite.html |
21:17.47 | Diao | Thanks |
21:17.49 | AbsoRayne | np |
21:17.53 | Diao | texture stealing time |
21:17.54 | Diao | :D |
21:18.23 | AbsoRayne | Just make sure, when you run WAU, you make a backup of sharedmedia.lua, in case the update overrides it |
21:19.16 | Ellipsis | needs moar mymedia |
21:19.36 | AbsoRayne | Ellipsis: Lies! |
21:20.02 | Ellipsis | no u |
21:20.06 | Diao | you just made an addition to the original sharedmedia, correct? |
21:20.32 | AbsoRayne | no u, srsly |
21:20.38 | AbsoRayne | Diao: aye |
21:20.54 | nevcairiel | BT3 and cyCircled? Man you live behind the moon :P |
21:20.58 | Diao | haha |
21:21.17 | Diao | time to play around with these hal textures and see which i like bets |
21:21.18 | AbsoRayne | shrugs |
21:21.19 | Diao | best* |
21:21.43 | nevcairiel | also, the addon names in your description is like not readable in that color |
21:22.27 | Diao | wait |
21:22.36 | Diao | updated yesterday, but you still have SCL? o_O |
21:22.47 | Diao | i thought SCL was no longer usable as of 2.4 :o |
21:22.50 | nevcairiel | SimpleCombatLob |
21:22.52 | nevcairiel | not Log |
21:22.53 | nevcairiel | :P |
21:23.02 | AbsoRayne | I have to fix alot of that |
21:23.04 | AbsoRayne | I know |
21:23.18 | AbsoRayne | And if SCL is in there, its by accident. Probably havent deleted it yet. |
21:23.23 | Diao | ah |
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21:28.47 | AbsoRayne | mmmmm spellcheck |
21:29.42 | AbsoRayne | I was running Heroic Bm today with this on repeat: http://youtube.com/watch?v=s4nVKn0l2mo&feature=related |
21:29.45 | AbsoRayne | Was intense. |
21:29.56 | Matrix110 | huh did I miss edrama in this channel? :P |
21:30.12 | erikh | more than 24h ago |
21:30.38 | Matrix110 | did the Tekkub vs. Ackis end that bad ? :P |
21:31.06 | Matrix110 | fights on the Internet are serious business |
21:31.14 | erikh | dunno.. i'm new here but it was Ackis being ignorant about how git and svn integrate and everyone else saying that ackis was just looking for a reason |
21:31.59 | erikh | there was a little slap fight and ackis got banned |
21:32.10 | Matrix110 | Damn I left to early |
21:32.27 | Matrix110 | I miss edrama in my guild |
21:32.33 | Matrix110 | in Vanilla WoW we had it frequently |
21:32.37 | Matrix110 | now in TBC its boring as hell |
21:32.49 | Matrix110 | and now I miss #wowace edrama |
21:32.53 | Matrix110 | :-( |
21:33.38 | erikh | yeah, the drama llamas in ours dispersed post-BC and several of them rr'd elsewhere, and now the only problem we have is with PvE noobs bitching about having to flag up inside instances |
21:34.08 | erikh | which is comparatively minor |
21:34.38 | erikh | it's nice being in a guild with no officers :) |
21:41.42 | harldephin | would there be a way to create an add-on showing some kind of an aggro indicator for any targeted enemy, representing whether the player is in the aggro range of an enemy or not? |
21:43.02 | harldephin | i know it's different for certain enemies and depends on the level delta, so that would need a list of all enemies and their aggro ratio, in case there is anything like that. |
21:46.11 | Matrix110 | Iam not sure but realising that if it would be possible is prolly more work than the benefit it brings :P |
21:47.42 | Jaxine | if you play wow for 3 years you get a pretty good feel for aggro range |
21:47.56 | Matrix110 | tell that to our rogues plx |
21:48.39 | Jaxine | actually, mobs/bosses that can see through stealth can see stealthed units at a greater range than nonstealthed |
21:48.45 | harldephin | well, yes, and i don't really have a problem with it.. it's just an idea |
21:48.55 | Matrix110 | yeah Jaxine but they seem to forget that :P |
21:50.29 | harldephin | i actually never had a problem with stealth-discovering units either, since as a druid my stealth level seems to be higher than that of rogue. - or: rogues are just bad at it.. |
21:52.55 | harldephin | sometimes people start fights within the aggro range of an enemy i'm already fighting at, so they virtually add me to their fights and that sometimes sucks, because when they die i often die with them. |
21:53.34 | harldephin | some people even do that on purpose so they're assholes, but some don't and an add-on like that (if it already existed) might be of help preventing stuff like that. |
21:54.53 | mjc | ok, since it's caturday, I am the proud human of two kittens: http://gallery.mac.com/michaeljosephcohen/100170/photo/web.jpg |
21:54.58 | mjc | as of today |
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21:55.55 | harldephin | or it may generelly help some people seeing whether they can fight one target without adding another. except in instances where some enemies share the same aggro anyway. |
21:59.54 | vithos | is it possible to control a modifier by conditionals in dogtag? i'm trying to do something like this without having to write the entire tag chain twice [PercentHP:Percent:(HP(known=true) ? :Paren)] |
22:04.26 | vithos | Ellipsis ping :P |
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22:07.45 | Ellipsis | pong vithos |
22:08.20 | Ellipsis | well no there's no easy way to do that |
22:08.38 | vithos | ah, so i'm stuck having full alternate versions of the whole thing? :/ |
22:08.51 | Ellipsis | yeah, pretty much :( |
22:08.56 | vithos | oh well, just thought i'd make sure. thanks |
22:10.10 | Ellipsis | always happy to help |
22:11.03 | Ellipsis | mjc: those are so adorable, what are their names? |
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22:12.15 | Camci | someone gave me a blind macro, |
22:12.40 | Camci | could i get it again? :P |
22:13.41 | Camci | #showtooltip Blind |
22:13.49 | Camci | ./rw Blinding %t |
22:13.54 | Camci | ./cast Blind |
22:13.56 | Camci | i guess? |
22:13.57 | Camci | ^^ |
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22:31.06 | nevcairiel | anyone heard of a bug where the battleground scoredboard opens randomlny during a BG? |
22:31.14 | nevcairiel | Cant pin it down to some specific action or addon |
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22:31.50 | Diao | i haven't seen anything like that |
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22:35.25 | CIA-44 | 03morgalm * r77850 10MorgDKP/ (8 files): |
22:35.25 | CIA-44 | MorgDKP: |
22:35.25 | CIA-44 | - Fixed custom event time |
22:35.25 | CIA-44 | - Fixed DKP/time event not starting if already in a raid |
22:35.25 | CIA-44 | - Fix display of high bid in justenough mode |
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22:44.28 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77851 10/branches/StatBlocks/: create dir |
22:45.17 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude 07LDB * r77852 10StatBlocks/: StatBlocks: a place to fiddle with LDB conversion |
22:48.48 | vithos | nevcairiel: i used to always accidentally open it, so i changed the keybind from shift-spacebar to shift-control-spacebar and it never happened again |
22:49.25 | nevcairiel | yeah i think the person crying at me with the bug actually jumped while using shift with clique all the time |
22:49.32 | nevcairiel | wonder why thats a binding anyway |
22:53.07 | vithos | aha! sort of avoided duplicating much of the tag: [Status or (HP(known=true):Short:Append("/" MaxHP:VeryShort " (") PercentHP:Percent (HP(known=true) ? ")"))] --> 8341/8k (100%) or 100% |
22:53.26 | nevcairiel | I would rather code lua |
22:53.29 | nevcairiel | then doing that shit :P |
22:53.51 | nevcairiel | I should really write me a oUF layout |
22:54.20 | vithos | i was using oUF before, but not my layout |
22:54.38 | vithos | but apparently dogtags doesn't eat babies anymore so i'm going back to the lazy way |
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22:55.11 | vithos | at least, it doesn't lock up my game briefly when my pet spawns or despawns anymore |
22:56.26 | vithos | sigh, pitbull still lacks sharedmedia support for aura border textures |
22:56.39 | nevcairiel | auras have borders? |
22:57.02 | vithos | yep. colored by buff type |
22:57.25 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude 07LDB * r77853 10StatBlocks/LibDataBroker-1.1.lua: StatBlocks: add in ldb1.1 |
22:57.48 | vithos | or maybe they're just all colored green... hmm.. |
22:58.43 | vithos | ah lame, buffs are just other/own/weapon |
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22:59.26 | vithos | i kinda want them sorted by type for enemy targets for purging |
22:59.50 | vithos | tries to remember if EBB can filter by type |
23:06.08 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude 07Zone * r77854 10StatBlocks/: create dir |
23:13.11 | CIA-44 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * rf96bbf8 10/: Fix readme links |
23:13.12 | CIA-44 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r7cee3a6 10/: Make addon loaded check case-insensative |
23:22.26 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77855 10LibLogger-1.0/LibLogger-1.0/LibLogger-1.0.lua: LibLogger-1.0: Use self.hasDebug etc instead of self.debug to optimize logging. self.debug etc will always be present. This means you can won't get index errors if you forget the check. |
23:23.22 | CIA-44 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r795abde 10/: Make addon loaded check case-insensative |
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23:27.35 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77857 10MagicDKP_Client/ (. MagicDKP_Client.lua MagicDKP_Client.toc embeds.xml): MagicDKP_Client: Removed LibLogger as a dependency. |
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23:29.31 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77858 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua MagicMarker.lua MarkTemplates.lua): |
23:29.31 | CIA-44 | MagicMarker: |
23:29.31 | CIA-44 | - Send network updates when settings are changed for individual mobs. This data is queued and not sent during combat to avoid unnecessary spamming. |
23:29.31 | CIA-44 | - Changed to use self.hasDebug etc due to change in LibLogger. |
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23:29.57 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77859 10MagicDKP/ (Config.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: Changed to use self.hasDebug etc. |
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23:40.08 | CIA-44 | 03neotron * r77860 10MagicTargets/ (. MagicTargets.lua MagicTargets.toc): MagicTargets: LibLogger no longer a fixed dependency. It will still be embedded if found elsewhere. |
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23:54.27 | vithos | ~seen Nayala |
23:54.29 | purl | nayala <n=pfister@cpe-066-057-016-010.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 898d 18h 42m 20s ago, saying: 'Neat... now to write a logo interpreter in lua.'. |
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