IRC log for #wowace on 20080703

00:00.17aestilmy firefox 2 is using 80mb of ram
00:00.21aestil500 is a lot of ram
00:00.23aestilvista?
00:01.13hydrogensounds more like its firefox being the piece of shit that it is
00:01.27aestilyeah, cause IE is so wonderful.
00:02.11hydrogenthey are not the only two options..
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00:07.24zournyquhi i am looking for a lightweight action bar addon..which one would you recommend to me? bartender 4 or dominos?
00:11.02Tenchworksdominos would probally be the most lightwieght since it re-uses blizzard code in it
00:11.51aestilopera?
00:11.55aestili used to use opera.
00:12.14aestili found that too many websites don't display properly in it [not opera's fault IMO, but what am i gonna do]
00:14.00Gnarfozopera's fault, actually.
00:15.11selckinlies.
00:21.24zournyquwhich addon would you recommend to me to hide the ability is not ready yet meldung?
00:21.33zournyqulol message ^^ sry
00:21.51zournyqutalking german on phone while writing english is sometimes trouble
00:21.57selckinerror monster or something
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00:26.38Pkekyo|WTB OD spray paint :<
00:30.47RaydenUnithat quest in heroic SP
00:30.54RaydenUniasks you to kill gruul and nightbane?
00:31.04RaydenUnican you stealth to him?
00:31.24selckindon't full
00:31.29selckindon't think so
00:31.43selckinpat on the small bridge thing
00:32.13Aiianedistract should work for them
00:32.28selckinnot if you're a druid!
00:33.22RaydenUnibridge?
00:33.26RaydenUniisn't he before the bridge?
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00:35.51RaydenUnioh nope
00:35.55RaydenUnithere are guys who see stealth
00:35.55RaydenUniarg
00:36.02RaydenUnii have so many quests that require heroics now
00:36.18selckintakes what 45 min to complete heroic sp
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00:37.06RaydenUnialso need heroic sethekk and heroic SH
00:39.04selckinsethekk has too much trash for just 2 bosses
00:39.12selckinsh just get a paladin to tank :)
00:39.19RaydenUnii need it for druid quest and kara quest
00:39.38selckinyou don't 'need' tbh
00:39.51RaydenUni?
00:40.03RaydenUnipretty sure you have to do sethekk to do those quests
00:40.12selckinwell flight form maybe
00:40.19selckinthe others quests give you nothing thats worth something
00:40.27RaydenUnii didn't say i needed to do the quests
00:40.32RaydenUnii said i need the dungeon for the quest
00:40.34selckin:)
00:40.42RaydenUnii'd like to be able to open kara myself and i think the quest gives a decent trinket
00:41.14selckinnone of the instances you mentioned are for kara :p
00:41.16RaydenUnino
00:41.18RaydenUnijust a gem
00:41.19RaydenUniyes
00:41.25RaydenUniwell
00:41.28RaydenUniit's a kara related quest
00:41.31RaydenUniyou get violet eye rep
00:41.40RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9644
00:42.03Arrowmasteryou arent exalted?
00:42.09RaydenUnialmost revered
00:42.10selckinalt probably
00:42.16RaydenUniyeah this is my druid alt
00:42.22RaydenUninot sure my spriest is exalted...
00:42.28RaydenUnii think not since he isn't exalted with anyone
00:42.33RaydenUnibut the violet eye ring sucks for spriests
00:43.52selckini should sleep
00:43.57selckinbut pff, its too hot
00:49.04NeoTron_http://eongames.com/tmp/conquer.png
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00:51.11WingedillidanCan anyone help me with finding an Addon?
00:52.02haste~asktoask
00:52.03purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
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00:52.25NeoTron_wow @ http://www.randomletters.com/images/70lock.jpg
00:52.56sdoublepft
00:53.05selckinsense the fakeness
00:53.39NeoTron_I am not so sure
00:55.09selckinhe managed to search spellbook for ritual of souls, but didn't read drain soul?
00:55.32selckinhe knows they need to be 'harvest'ed
00:56.19selckinhes guilded
00:56.32selckini need sleep, nn
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01:07.28RaydenUniis heroic Ahune fixed?
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01:08.10Ellipsishe was broken?
01:09.55RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=9201
01:09.57RaydenUnitaught by Chaw
01:10.02RaydenUnibut i'm at Chaw and i don't see them
01:10.08RaydenUnii thought the ahune fight was broken for heroic
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01:17.32CIA-4403jncl * r77729 10Skinner/embeds.xml: Skinner: Reverted earlier change to embeds.xml to fix the LibSharedMedia-3.0 issue
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01:34.18aestili ask this occasionally
01:34.24aestilwhats a good totem bar mod?
01:34.40aestilideally this mod would also be an aspect bar/trap mod
01:34.44aestiland it would not be called autobar
01:35.38Xinhuanthere's no such thing as a "all-in-1" addon that isn't called autobar ;p
01:36.20aestilok.
01:36.26aestilautobar breaks some stuff for me.
01:36.35Lukianaestil, I use Numen on my shaman
01:36.40Lukianthere's also yata
01:36.43aestilso i can't use it, and i don't know why it breaks stuff [its probably my fault for glitchy eepanel scripts]
01:36.49Lukianaestil, I have keybinds for all my traps :)
01:37.11aestili pretty much don't much other than freezing
01:37.13aestiland don't switch aspects much either
01:37.30Lukianyeah same, keybinds there too though
01:37.32aestili thought there was some other mod being worked on a few weeks ago.  but apparently not.
01:37.50CIA-4403next96 * r77730 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
01:37.50CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
01:37.50CIA-44- Update locale koKR
01:37.56aestilsoo blizzards next mmo is almost for sure starcraft mmo right?
01:37.57Lukianaestil, *maybe* classbuttons?
01:37.58Dark_Elfjust use a good action bar mod and make new rows and ya got your all in one lol
01:38.10Lukianaestil, no, it's vikings! get it right :p
01:38.27aestilthats not how autobar works, for aspects i'd have one expanding button and 1 expanding button for trasp
01:38.33aestiltwo buttons, for all those abilities.
01:38.36aestilnot a whole bunch
01:38.44aestili have an action bar mod btw, ty.
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01:39.58Aerrim not going to try that again
01:40.05Aerri tryed the curse gaming client
01:40.15Aerrand now my addons are royally fucked
01:41.37AerrFubar is giving me Fubar\Fubar-Locale-enUS.lua:1: attempt to call global 'Rock' (a nill value)
01:44.06Dark_Elfim surprised someone hasnt made a fubar type addon similar to the start button in windows
01:44.07DARKGuyHaha.
01:44.25DARKGuyI've wanted to do something like that, but I'd find it kinda useless :p
01:44.33Lukianerrr
01:44.44LukianI have these weird yellow highlights on my empty BT4 action buttons
01:44.54DARKGuy<PROTECTED>
01:45.42LukianDark_Elf, still there
01:47.12Dark_Elfyes
01:47.12LukianDARKGuy* :p
01:47.12Lukiansorry :D
01:47.44Aerrthis is annoying :<
01:48.00DARKGuylol
01:48.11DARKGuyLukian: o_O.. no idea what it might be then :(
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01:51.25Aerrlocal L = Rock("LibRockLocale-1.0"):GetTranslationNamespace("FuBar")   and rock is pulling a nill value
01:51.28Aerrlibs missing?
01:55.25Dark_Elfyeah cause fubar works here
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01:56.32Dark_Elfwould download the one at wowace website it works good
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02:05.02AerrDark_Elf. I've had this one forever
02:05.16AerrIt's worked up till itryed the curse client to see ho w it is
02:05.26Aerrand now i am trying to get things working again
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02:19.37nurdc0reis anyone around to help me with an addon question?
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02:20.43nurdc0reer, anyone at all?
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02:24.06RaydenUniwhere do feral druids get rings and trinkets?
02:24.08RaydenUnidrop wis?
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02:27.41hydrogenare you a bare, a cat, or an alligator?
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02:31.47Aerralligator obviously
02:35.25CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77731 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
02:35.25CIA-44LibLordFarlander-2.0:
02:35.25CIA-44- Small fixes to the UI for sticking (trying to get it to work better)
02:35.25CIA-44- Added missing $ so revision number gets updated for the registering of the pet and mount database
02:43.00Pkekyo|STOP BEING SO GODDAMN PREGNANT
02:44.55Olison^ !
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02:55.18vithosNeoTron: right clicking on magictargets on fubar opens an empty rockconfig at the same time as the real config
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03:00.23Arrowmasterphyber: you should checkout the skinner thread and changelog
03:10.23binderI can't remember the names, but weren't there mods that showed your movement speed & would also equip trinkets when mounting?
03:14.30Arrowmastervithos: i blame NeoTron for that one, i dont even see where hes telling it to open the real config
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03:16.02Zpredator[AUS]hey is the reason so many sites are down because of AT&T?
03:17.15CIA-44tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * re30c84f 10/: Remove a bad hearth obj from Ally Tanaris
03:17.16CIA-44tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r0874fdd 10/: Ally Dustwallow QID fix
03:17.16CIA-44tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r85bd381 10/: Update tekkonfig
03:17.19Arrowmastersites are down?
03:17.33Zpredator[AUS]wow is workign for you all?
03:17.40Arrowmasteryes
03:17.43Zpredator[AUS]woah
03:17.48Zpredator[AUS]must just be australia
03:17.57Arrowmasterprobably
03:18.04Zpredator[AUS]were cut out ><
03:18.26CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77732 10Coconuts/Coconuts.lua:
03:18.26CIA-44Coconuts:
03:18.26CIA-44- Removed some unnecessary lines
03:21.04CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77733 10MiniPet/ (. MiniPet.lua MiniPet.toc embeds.xml):
03:21.04CIA-44MiniPet:
03:21.04CIA-44- Removed need for LibBabble
03:21.04CIA-44- Added OnProfileReset callback
03:21.04CIA-44- Simplified IsATeleportSpell
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03:33.56Zpredator[AUS]any australians here?
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03:59.11Mytosdoes anyone have access to the wotlk alpha, ive got a question about the "titan grip" talent
04:03.05RaydenUniharder, main tank or off tank?
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04:04.55Mytoswhat do you mean Rayden
04:12.00RaydenUniwhich role is harder
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04:14.42Neyadepends on the fight
04:14.52RaydenUnile'ts say for kara
04:14.57RaydenUnithe whole dungeon
04:15.05RaydenUnifor however you define MT and OT
04:15.40hydrogendepends on how you define harder
04:15.54Neyafor Kara I define the offtank as whoever of the tank that runs around in dpsgear. And for what I think is harder, niether.
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04:17.06Mytosid say it depends on the class and group makeup really
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04:17.27hydrogenconsiddering theres only one fight at most thbat requires an offftank in kara...
04:17.34hydrogenwell
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04:18.06Mytosa druid or pally offtanking isnt gonna have a hard time, but for a warrior its a pain, and you feel basically useless
04:18.06hydrogenabsolutely requires
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04:18.56Mytosif your undergeared as a warrior you HAVE to be prot, so your not gonna do any dps at all, if your geared and your fury its a pain to offtank because in fights like moroes your not getting hit very much and your not doing enough damage in prot gear to generate sufficent rage
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04:19.45hydrogenif your geared theres no reason to be in prot gear
04:19.59hydrogenjust wear dps gear and make your healer actually do something
04:20.02Aiianeum
04:20.04Aiianea pally offtanking hurts :|
04:20.32Aiianeabout 1/2 of pally threat is reactive
04:20.43Mytosim speaking in terms of people that would acctually need something from kara, not people in full t6 doing it to get badges and shards
04:20.43Aiianeat least, on single targets
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04:44.16Mytoswhats a good totem mod
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04:53.18vithosi like Numen on my alt shaman
04:53.34durcynnumen, yata, poppins, use whichever one you hate the least
05:07.27aestilnumen + button facade doesn't work?
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05:19.01CIA-4403antiarc * r77734 10HiveMind/ (9 files in 3 dirs): HiveMind: Initial commit. Track your arena partners' important cooldowns. Druid/Hunter/Paladin/Warlock/Warrior cooldowns to do.
05:19.19vithosnot sure. i think poppins does though
05:21.26CIA-4403antiarc * r77735 10HiveMind/ (config.lua core.lua): HiveMind: Testing the commit version before it's committed is for losers.
05:21.53DiskmasterThe QA is lacking with this one--
05:21.56Diskmastershot in advance
05:22.16AntiarcI wrote it this afternoon, between paying work :P
05:26.56GngskAntiarc, good commit, always wanted an addon that did something like that when I was doing competative arena
05:27.23Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_070108_175616.jpg <-- early screenie
05:29.37VonhintenHOME`Could put nametags in a zigzag, top and bottom, centered on icons, so you don't have them cut off
05:29.41VonhintenHOME`as an option
05:29.56AntiarcI'm using a shortening scheme now
05:30.10AntiarcStoled mostly from EBB
05:30.43AntiarcCloak of Shadows = "CoS", Perception = "Percep", etc.
05:31.17Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_070208_223001.jpg
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05:32.08VonhintenHOME`No Premed? Prep?
05:32.22Anyiahello
05:32.49VonhintenHOME`oh, I see prep
05:33.05AntiarcPremed is useless to your teammates, IMO
05:33.17AntiarcNo need to know that CD, since it's not really used strategically
05:33.21VonhintenHOME`yeah, kinda true
05:33.32AntiarcBut you could add it if you wanted to. The config lets you add spells not in the default set
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05:45.16Anyiaso.. who would I need to befriend in order have a chance at getting repo write access? :)
05:45.26GngskAntiarc, nice your UI is a lot cleaner than I remember :P
05:53.35LukianAnyia, read the wiki
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05:54.22Anyiaaye, but either I'm too impatient or my emails have fallen off into the nether
05:54.51Anyiaso I figured I'd stop by here and see if there was a magic word that had to be whispered in order for the emails to be noticed :)
05:54.52Lukianprobably the first
05:55.18Anyiaah, fair enough
05:55.59Anyiaany idea what sort of timeframe I should expect before hearing something? (even if that something is just a 'no')
05:56.18EllipsisI don't think the something has ever been a no
05:56.23Ellipsisbut it can take weeks sometimes
05:57.40Anyiacool, I shall be patient then, thanks!
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06:02.45LukianAnyia, 3-6wks is about normal I think :D
06:04.35Anyiaoh. right. well that would definitely put me in the 'overly expectant' category then =)
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06:04.48LukianAloft is colouring some hunter's pets as though they are warlocks (purple) o.O
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06:10.01vithossame name?
06:10.05vithosas a lock
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06:19.54vithosi like your ui Antiarc
06:21.03vithosi wish i wasn't a ranged class so i could just look at nameplates isntead of target unitframes
06:21.13vithosso i could have it out of the way like that
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06:25.19PrimerI've been trying to find the "perfect" warlock succubus macro for seduction
06:25.44PrimerYet, everything I've found always has some sort of drawback
06:25.59Primerfor example, last night, I had {diamond}, and pressed the button for my macro, only to have it report "target is not in line of sight"
06:26.33PrimerIs there any macro that'll make the stupid succubus 1) go to the target and 2) when in range, seduce it, and 3) continue to seduce non stop?
06:27.43mortimera trained monkey?
06:30.12PrimerI suppose that if seduction is the only thing on auto, once I tell it to attack, that's what it'll do?
06:30.56Mytosyeah but then itll blow through its mana and diminishing returns will get you killed
06:31.09Gngskprimer, it'll auto attack too
06:31.20Gngskor will it not? I haven't played my lock in a while
06:31.29Primerso is there no way to make it do this automatically?
06:31.45Gngskyou're talking about pvp right?
06:31.49Primermy current macro uses /cast [target=focus] Seduction
06:31.55Primerno, PVE actually
06:32.00PrimerI use a Felhunter for pvp
06:32.38Gngskahh, well, I think in pve it'll autocast it on a secondary target, but yeah if you want a specific target you have to use a macro like that
06:33.18Primermaybe I need to also set the pet's target in the macro too, instead of just telling it to seduce it
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06:34.33Cheadsprimer I think you'll be better off doing it manually
06:34.55Primerso much micromanagement though
06:34.55Cheadsset the seduced target to your fucus.. and make a macro for seducing your focus target
06:35.07Primerthat's what I already have
06:35.16Primerit stops seducing after the first one wears off though
06:35.29Cheadsyes, so click the seduce macro again
06:35.30Primerit just comes back to me
06:35.36Primerbah
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06:36.50Cheadsim quite sure it's the only option you have
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06:40.17Anyiabesides, if you could macro up the entire game to play itself, you'd be left out of the fun :P
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07:00.39cnc|workhello all
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07:24.41Cyrezhands cnc|work an entire slab of fried bacon for no particular reason
07:25.39cnc|workeats allthe friend bacon
07:25.59Cyrez:)
07:27.00cnc|workand I suck at typing today
07:27.02cnc|workHARD
07:27.13cnc|workguess I shouldn't chat in english while on the phone in french
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07:28.04CyrezI only think in English.
07:28.31CyrezAnything that isn't in English in my head needs word-for-word symbolic links. ._.
07:30.20cnc|workI can think in english, french and dutch
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07:31.11CyrezI thought for a second that I didn't know what I'd even do with Dutch.
07:31.13CyrezThen I thought...
07:31.17Cyrez...Oh, yeah...
07:31.20CyrezChocolate.
07:31.38cnc|workhaha
07:31.41cnc|workchocolate and BEER
07:31.45cnc|workand french fries
07:31.49Cyrez:)
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07:31.56CyrezSouds like a meal to me.
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07:32.03cnc|work(don't ask me why they're called FRENCH fries, its belgian fries rly)
07:32.14cnc|worka good one if I might add :p
07:32.25CyrezAnd Belgian waffles.
07:32.27cnc|workthough not very healty to eat every day
07:32.32cnc|work^mmmmm, waffles with ice
07:32.55CyrezIce?
07:33.11cnc|workvanilla ice with waffles
07:33.14cnc|workand chocolate sauce
07:33.21Cyrez0_0
07:33.23CyrezMmm.
07:33.24Cyrez<3
07:33.37cnc|workheh
07:34.02CyrezI wonder who is gonna get r77777.
07:37.24KalrothI bet nev will break something in his library and update aaaaall addons that links to it!
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07:38.07KalrothHrm, that's actually a good idea. I'll change the interface on LibStub so I have to update all addons that use it!
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07:39.29CyrezHopefully you can finish the updates before the lynching.
07:39.38KalrothI doubt it :P
07:39.40CyrezWe're having waffles and pie.
07:39.47Kalrothmmmmmmmmmmmmm, waffles
07:40.02Anyiayou're making me hungry now
07:40.02cnc|workBELGIAN waffles with ice cream and chocolate sauce !
07:40.34Anyias/chocolate sauce/berries/ and you have a definite winner imo :)
07:40.46CyrezBelgian waffles are the only way somebody should have waffles.
07:40.56CyrezEven bettar if they're actually from Belgium.
07:40.58Cyrez<3
07:41.11cnc|workliving in belgium !
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07:41.20Anyiadepends.. with the shipping time involved I'd imagine they'd be a bit stale..  >.>
07:41.23cnc|work(the new living in the USA)
07:41.39KalrothBelgian waffles with vanilla icecream is yuuuuum
07:41.52Kalrothdrools.
07:41.58Tehpurgerim so jealous of you
07:44.10AnyiaI'm off.. enjoy the waffles
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08:37.26CIA-4403neotron * r77736 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Fixed bug with exporting.
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08:50.37NeoTron_bad news is we took forever to kill KAlecgos with plenty of wipes
08:50.50NeoTron_good news we only had 5 wipes total on Brutallus => Twins
08:53.42sacarascgrats NeoTron_
08:56.19NeoTron_actually got some decent muru attempts in too
08:56.32NeoTron_that fight reminds me of phase 2 vashj a whole lot
08:56.44NeoTron_except harder by far
08:57.18Zyndromecockblock
08:57.30NeoTron_without being unkillable
08:57.37NeoTron_amazingly hard but not impossible
08:57.46NeoTron_likely needing quite a bit of SWP gear upgrades too
08:58.23KalrothM'uru is silly hard, but I love it
08:58.41winkiller*sigh* our 3rd MH day was called off after Kaz'rogal firstdown with many trashwipes. will be a bit before we see Azgalor I guess :(
08:58.44NeoTron_I like the fight but yes it's amazingly hard
08:59.00Zyndromewe got up to Twins on farm ... Muru just kicks our ass
08:59.15NeoTron_winkiller: you quickly learn the trash so you should be moving on soon
08:59.34NeoTron_2nd guild on the server has been on muru since the door opened
08:59.50NeoTron_top guild killed him like 1-2 weeks ago, maybe 4-6 weeks before kill
08:59.51NeoTron_so yeah
08:59.54NeoTron_he's hard
09:00.17NeoTron_I am somewhat doubtful that we'll get him pre-nerf although gear upgrades might make it possible
09:00.32ZyndromeI'm in the 1st guild and we're stuck there :D
09:00.52NeoTron_my server has 3 guilds on muru now
09:00.58NeoTron_one just transferred in from another server
09:01.06Zyndromegood thing though we have no competition, only a horde guild has killed Brutallus so far, which was lucky!
09:01.06KalrothSame here, all within 2 weeks too
09:01.25winkillerNeoTron: not so much to learn I guess, substitute Pally tank dieing too fast :P
09:02.04NeoTron_well
09:02.15NeoTron_part of pally dying fast might be not controlling the abominations
09:02.23NeoTron_they stun which causes quick pally deaht, in addition to the aura
09:02.34NeoTron_or he gets a bit too eager with the casters
09:02.38Kalrothhum?
09:02.52Kalrothoh, Azgalor :p
09:03.13NeoTron_kaz'rogal trash
09:03.17KalrothI was thinking paladin tank and M'uru and was wondering where the hell the abominations came from :P
09:03.28Zyndromelearn the trash, and Archimonde becomes the only real challenge in there ;<
09:03.39NeoTron_our main issue with tanking there seems to be the sentinel tank
09:03.47NeoTron_the dude has pretty good gear but he's DPS that specs prot
09:03.48KalrothBut yeah, we make warriors/ferals grab the aboms, the paladin tank grabs the rest
09:03.52NeoTron_so it's not as good as it should be
09:04.02KalrothNeoTron: Sounds like you're in my guild. :p
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09:04.18winkillerI really wanna see Archi. but trash is soo annoying
09:04.20KalrothI'm a DPS warrior and I'm prot for M'uru and I'm tanking the Sentinels
09:04.21NeoTron_we lost out mt warrior and our backup prot warrior
09:04.24KalrothOw
09:04.40NeoTron_we recruited a new prot warrior but he needs gearing from BT
09:04.43NeoTron_and stuff
09:04.48NeoTron_so not ready for swp
09:04.58Kalroth><
09:05.14NeoTron_think an avoidance set for void sentinel would be good
09:05.27NeoTron_fricking thing hits as hard as brutallus, but a bit less often
09:05.27KalrothIt's required, not just good
09:05.38KalrothIt hits for 8-9k every 2 seconds
09:05.45winkillerare people still using tankpoints at SWP level?
09:05.46Kalrothalong with the shadow aura for ~3500 damage
09:05.46NeoTron_we got hits around 11k
09:05.56KalrothNeoTron: That's bad
09:06.05NeoTron_my druid MT realized that t6 bracers, felmyst staff etc are great for muru
09:06.08Kalroth11k means the tank isn't using ironshield potions and demo shout
09:06.10NeoTron_lots of avoidance
09:06.18NeoTron_i's possible. we're just learning it
09:06.30NeoTron_don't think using the pots crossed anyones mind
09:06.45NeoTron_we didn't really know how hard hi hit (I'd say it's our first real half night of tries)
09:06.54KalrothI started using ironshields after the first wipe, I got 3 hit for 10k, 3.5k (aura) and 11k in ~2 seconds
09:07.10KalrothSame here, we've only had one evening on M'uru so far
09:07.20NeoTron_still so much like Vashj. One of the few fight where making tries without consumables is pointless (we did brut->twins w/o dps consumables being required)
09:07.35KalrothGot him to 60%'ish though, with only two SPs doing DPS to him (lasted about 3 minutes)
09:07.56NeoTron_our longest try was just over 2 minutes
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09:26.48Zyndromeone thing is for damn sure; it's going to take eons to get our guys geared up in SWP-gear due to every single boss dropping 3x vanq tokens only
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09:28.49theoddone33I gotta be careful what I say in here
09:28.53theoddone33logs show up on google somehow
09:28.57theoddone33!!
09:29.12vithos~logs
09:29.13purllogs is, like, apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
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09:30.19theoddone33I was thinking about an arena trend mod
09:30.37theoddone33so I don't have to remember after 70 games how far we've raised/lowered our rating
09:30.47theoddone33and show ups/downs in a little graph
09:30.56theoddone33maybe highest/lowest rating this session
09:31.00theoddone33would be cute
09:31.29theoddone33would be cool if it tracked your record against various combos too
09:32.40vithoshave you seen ArenaHistorian? doesn't have graphs, but is for the same purpose
09:37.01theoddone33haven't seen it
09:37.51theoddone33wow looks more indepth than what I was thinking
09:37.54theoddone33but nice
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09:48.43CIA-4403broesel01 * r77738 10AddonManager/ (12 files):
09:48.43CIA-44AddonManager:
09:48.43CIA-44- first Release on wowace
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09:49.19papyrosre
09:49.47Lukiannew ACP? :p
09:49.49Lukianis it better? :p
09:53.25cnc|workI don't like people with numbers in their name
10:00.20Arrowmasterim guessing its a totally fail addon
10:00.51Ellipsis12 files seems like an awful lot to manage addons
10:01.02Arrowmasterhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AddonManager/AddonManager.txt
10:01.09Arrowmasterit doesnt 'just' manage
10:01.28[Ammo]hee
10:01.33Arrowmasterits actually only one lua file and no xml
10:01.38Arrowmasterjust a bunch of gfx
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10:01.45[Ammo]it's a big pile of frames with onclick handlers shrug
10:02.24Ellipsiswhy does it need so many tgas x.x
10:02.29Ellipsisand installation instructions...lol?
10:02.44[Ammo]installation instructions are good
10:02.50[Ammo]and tgas for the graphics
10:02.51[Ammo]shrug
10:03.03[Ammo]I see not much wrong with the addon apart from the fact that it's kinda useless
10:03.15[Ammo]to me that is
10:03.59Arrowmasteri see something wrong with it
10:04.02Arrowmasterglobal 'this'
10:04.16[Ammo]'not much' :p
10:07.06ArrowmasterACP seems supperior for just enable/disabling
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10:07.33Arrowmasterand something like optionhouse is probably supperior for memory/cpu usage
10:08.00Arrowmasterbut yeah its not teriable, seen much much much worse
10:09.17vithosthat reminds me, wasn't optionhouse supposed to get a 'set' feature like ACP has?
10:09.32vithosi mean, sets of addons, to make it easy to load and unload them at once
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10:16.47winkillerthat would be so awesome
10:17.27winkillertags! web2.0! :P
10:22.03cladhairevithos: you can use AddOnAddOff for that
10:23.31cladhairehttp://git.tekkub.net:81/AddOnAddOff/
10:23.38vithosjust found it, thanks
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10:23.52cladhairethat's an OH plugin to handle sets :P
10:24.38winkillerrofl, Tekkub always has the best commit msgs
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10:46.56Wraithan1Until I can get a copy of that WoW Programming book, which are the best web resources?
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10:48.15Arrowmasterthe wowprogramming website, wowwiki, the lua5.1 manual, and the lua pil
10:49.25dieckhm, does the /use of macros also equip items if they're not equipped? or do you have to use /equip specifically?
10:49.53Arrowmasteri dont think it does
10:51.51dieckhm, ok
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10:59.55dieckhm, is there any kind of /cast spell:38692 for casting spells?
11:01.35Arrowmasterno
11:01.51cnc|worknot directly
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11:01.57dieckwhat a pity :)
11:02.18[Ammo]hmm /cast (GetSpellInfo(38692))   maybe? not sure if that'd work in macros :)
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11:02.42dieckwe have some raid members playing german, some english, and I think one plays spanish. And I'm the only one familiar with macros ;) So whenever I post something, I have to post 3 versions in our boards
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11:02.58[Ammo]tell them to use the english client or gtfo
11:02.58dieckitem: made my day, but spell: would be great ;)
11:03.25dieck[Ammo]: nice idea...
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11:28.55CrazyBennycan  you somehow move the voicechat frame, that shows whos talking?
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11:52.46CIA-44- fix default align
11:52.46CIA-44- add a delimiter selection, ":" by default
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14:20.11ZealotOnAStickWho's working on/maintaining Threat2?
14:20.34[Ammo]antiarc xinhuan and nevcairiel are main contributors atm
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14:42.55Lukianhmm, Is there a way to cast a different spell if you don't have energy for an attack?
14:43.12LukianI'd like to attempt to cast FFF if I can't use the attack in the macro I'm spamming
14:43.17cnc|workLukian: no
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14:43.28cnc|workblizz blocked ALL conditionals
14:43.37Lukianthe most reliable seems to be :/ /castsequence Mangle (Cat)(), Faerie Fire (Feral)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)()
14:44.14LukianI could use castrandom XD
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14:44.35cnc|workjust look at ur energy ? :s
14:44.49Lukianthat's not the issue :p
14:44.51winkillerjust use a 2nd button? :P
14:44.58Lukianthe issue is me forgetting to use the 2nd button :p
14:45.17cnc|workyou could use an addon that warns u when FFF is not on ur target
14:45.45winkillerbit overkill
14:45.57winkillerunless you have no castbar/classtimer/similar
14:46.34Lukian^
14:47.08FinalXLukian: can't you just do /cast Mangle (Cat) and /cast Fearie Fire (Feral) in 1 macro after eachother, in that order? if the first fails it should do the second, shouldn't it?
14:47.21LukianFinalX, that's what I thought, but it doesn't
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14:47.33FinalXlame :o
14:49.04cnc|worktry /cast mangle (cat) /stopcasting /cast Faerie Fire (Feral)
14:49.11Lukiandid
14:49.33cnc|workdoesn't work either ?
14:49.36cnc|workblizz did a good job then
14:49.53evilcazzyeah, no autoplay button.
14:50.13durcynyou can't have more than one GCD per macro.  castsequence it and press twice.
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14:50.44Lukianmangle isn't using a gcd
14:50.47winkillerwhich sucks if you don't want to waste GCDs
14:50.48Lukianif I have no energy.
14:51.08winkilleruse rightclick/alt-modifier maybe?
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14:52.40FinalXkinda defeats the point he's trying to reach tho
14:53.15winkillerI know, but "not possible" is kind of... what he's going to get :P
14:53.26FinalXhmhm
14:53.41winkillerkind of annoying, but I liked the change
14:53.46winkillerno more 1 click macros
14:53.49Lukianit should be possible though, because i'm not using a GCD
14:53.50winkillerexcept BM hunters :P
14:53.54FinalXi dont really use macro's tbh
14:54.02FinalX...cant be arsed to make them :o
14:54.08FinalXand when i do it's not for abilities
14:54.27FinalXperhaps to add a /p Resurrection %t .. etc.
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14:57.13NeyaLukian, a failed /cast is still a cast, that's why you can't use the second one. Atleast as far as I know.
14:57.35FinalXah
14:57.37Neyaodd wording, but meh, the point is there :P
15:01.28Zyndromehttp://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6996/mewuntzdislolzkekuy5.jpg , aweome pic to accompany the question "how do I get this?"
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15:05.06Lukianany suggestions on tricking it or an alternate approach?
15:07.22NeyaZyndrome, you could try kgpanels, there are several ways to get a black background like that, kgpanels is one way.
15:07.33Zyndromeuhm I didnt ask it .p
15:07.34Zyndrome:P
15:07.45Neyaheh.
15:08.13ZyndromeI should edit a moustache and a monocle in there, "oh hi I fixed ur pic"
15:08.19Neyahaha
15:08.57NeyaLukian, sadly not, personally I use fariefire on another button.
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15:11.24LukianI wish /lastform was available
15:11.27Lukianfor potioning
15:11.46winkillerjust use  the normal potion macro?
15:11.53winkillerthat always worked since the change?
15:12.01winkilleror do you want 1 for cat/bear?
15:12.17Lukianyeah currently it just throws me in bear
15:12.23Lukiancbf'ed putting two on my actionbars
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15:12.52Neyamake a different for cat and make the slot/bar it is on page on shapeshift.
15:14.13Lukianhmm too much duplicatoin
15:14.34Fisker-rawr rawr velociraptor Lukian
15:14.35phyberZyndrome: which thread prompted that pic?
15:14.49NeyaNot much to do about it in this case.
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15:15.04Zyndromephyber : http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4754155931&sid=1
15:16.10phyberah :)
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15:20.01Lukianworks with /cast Maul. heh
15:21.34NeyaMaul is on next attack that's why.
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15:21.46Lukianaye
15:22.14Neyaniether fff nor mangle, both are instants.
15:22.50Lukianrofl
15:22.55Lukianthis macro is in the druid wiki
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15:23.37selckinlol
15:23.41selckinpro dps
15:23.46Zyndromemaaaauuul
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15:24.50NeyaI wonder how the author of that macro do when he gets ragestarved.
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15:25.06charon300TPS pew pew
15:25.28phyberhe probably hits the /sit macro a few times to eat some crits!
15:25.38Neyahaha
15:25.44winkillerrofl
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15:30.41LukianThere has to be someway to get this to work
15:30.44Lukianmy macro is so sexy
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16:04.19moppIs there an addon that increases the characters usable in a macro?
16:05.15Yasuohi, can addons access the radar? e.x. fishing radar etc.
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16:06.51Yasuomopp, spermacro
16:06.59moppisn't that broken now?
16:07.08Yasuohoweverm i dont know how to call a supermacro from command line
16:07.36Yasuoits working for me but i the icans are messed up and i cannot call it via /macro
16:07.59moppUpdated 31/05/2007 (400 days ago) ;o
16:08.11moppit'll work like normal though, if I just drag to bars?
16:08.18Yasuowell it works if you dont need item links
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16:24.45AckisWorkhmm should I put a ghost command in my connect script?
16:25.05selckinswn
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16:26.19ElkanoAckis, I did ^^
16:26.33AckisWorkI'll have to do that
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16:26.57AckisWorkI just saw ckknight collide then connect
16:27.05AckisWorkmade me think of that
16:29.29ckknight_AckisWork: I find it useful
16:30.07AckisWorkyah I think it would be... a ghost and /nick change as well... however chans like wowace-cia make that impossible (nick change)
16:33.32WraithanAckisWork: reg your alternate nick, indentify upon connect, ghost kill, nick change, ident
16:33.49Wraithanif you don't have a ghost the only diff is a bit more feedback from nickserv
16:34.21Wraithanalso lets you nick change if the server doesn't let you nick change if you are unregistered and in a channel
16:34.54Wraithanidentify upon connect is what that should have read as.
16:35.34AckisWorkwraithan: I'm confused tbh... what is better about that than just trying to ghost? You can't ghost yourself (I've tried!) so it won't cause issues...
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16:47.10WraithanAckisWork: Some channels/irc server don't let you change nicks if you are not registered and identified
16:47.53WraithanAckisWork: So I identify first, kill any ghosts on my main account, then change nicks, and identify on my main account
16:49.02AckisWorkwraithan: don't you just need to identify once?
16:49.16AckisWorkif the nicks are linked?
16:49.21WraithanI don't know how to use nick linking hehe
16:49.32AckisWorklol
16:49.33Wraithannever looked into it
16:49.37Wraithanjust worked around it
16:49.40AckisWorkahh
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16:49.55Wraithanwas using IRC for about a year before I had even heard of it
16:49.59Cairenn|afk<PROTECTED>
16:50.59WraithanCairenn|afk: use that instead of /msg nickserv register etc...?
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16:51.20Cairenn|afkall nicks need to be registered, that's just the way to group them all
16:51.51WraithanCairenn|afk: Thanks, I will do that with my alt nicks then
16:51.58Cairenn|afkyou're welcome
16:52.08Wraithanit makes it so I don't have to identify whenever I change nicks right?
16:52.26Cairenn|afkcorrect
16:52.30Cairenn|afkidentify once
16:52.31Wraithancool
16:52.38Cairenn|afkwhichever nick you are on
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16:52.53WraithanI just have a reactive script that if nickserv messages me asking me to identify I do
16:53.01Wraithanlol
16:54.16AckisWorkafk work stuff brb
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16:58.23sbhaha beta registration
16:58.29sbwow europe down :p
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17:00.04NivFreakbeta reg where?
17:01.13Fisker-account management
17:01.31NivFreaknot for US
17:01.32NivFreaklame
17:01.46Fisker-actually it was on the US page a couple of days ago
17:01.53Fisker-but it went missing earlier today
17:01.54Fisker-also
17:02.02Fisker-it's just an opt-in for the beta
17:02.11Fisker-just so they don't invite people who don't want to test the beta
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17:04.28NivFreakFisker-: it was actually gone monday
17:04.32NivFreakunless they had put it back up
17:04.39NivFreakit was up last week with a link to the recruit a friend page
17:04.43NivFreakand then gone monday
17:05.00Fisker-it was up and working yesterday i believe
17:05.32NivFreakah
17:06.05NivFreakI have 3 accounts, so I suspect I won't get any beta invites with my luck :)
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17:15.25Yasuohi, can addons access the radar? e.x. fishing radar etc.
17:15.33selckinno
17:21.44Yasuothx selckin
17:34.49CIA-4403ackis * r77746 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc):
17:34.49CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
17:34.49CIA-44- Version to 0.91
17:34.49CIA-44- Change some x-fields to be more descriptive and updated AboutPanel to reflect name changes
17:34.49CIA-44- Added spell linking capabilities in the database (should show up in the tool tip) thanks to Cossette for the idea and example code
17:34.53CIA-44- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
17:35.06Stanzillazomg dry code
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17:36.45AckisWork:D
17:36.48AckisWorksomeone test that out for me please
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17:39.01cladhaire~emulate Ackis
17:39.02purli drive a mini-can
17:40.11KriLL3can you make a button to select a closetgnome set? say a macro?
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17:41.36AckisWorkmini-can = win
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17:52.22qwestoKriLL3, http://wowace.com/wiki/ClosetGnome#Macro
17:57.34KriLL3yu
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17:57.37KriLL3*ty
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18:04.26Zyndromeheh, seems like Vestment of Summer prevents you from going AFK
18:04.48Zyndromeactivated it and been doing nothing for a quite while now, still not auto-AFK
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18:07.26Belazorackis did you fix the libaboutpanel error? :p
18:09.08AckisWorkBelazor: there's an error?
18:09.21Belazorthere was erlier today (didnt update since this morning)
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18:09.33BelazorIll check log
18:10.01AckisWorkhmm it was working when I committed it last night
18:10.05BelazorAckisRecipeList-0.90\AckisRecipeList.lua:805: Cannot find a library instance of "LibAboutPanel". I run disembedded.
18:11.57AckisWorkit's not a library like that, it's a drop in file that is customized for my own use (stolen from Tekkub)... so there's no Lib About Panel
18:13.57Vulcanusits what bugsack sed
18:15.16AckisWorki'll have to take a look at it later, it was working last night before I did any commit, not sure why it would be fubared now
18:15.59AckisWorkbut make sure you have the latest version, r77746
18:16.15VulcanusIll update to .91 in a min
18:16.30Vulcanusmy floor is making crunching noises so its tiem to vacuum
18:16.44AckisWorklol
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18:23.31Vulcanusseems to be fine now, so call off the possey ;p
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18:24.06Vulcanusah good, it no longer spams the chat frame when I click scan skills, I was gonna bitch about that but meh XD
18:24.16AckisWorkwhat was it spamming?
18:25.27Vulcanusthe recipe data
18:25.33AckisWorkand do a scan and hover over one of the buttons, what happens?
18:25.47AckisWorkit shouldn't do that, shouldn't ever have done that unless you have that option on
18:26.00Vulcanuswell I didnt touch any options, but it don't do it anymore so its np
18:26.10Vulcanusalso it does show the materials and stuff, it works :)
18:26.13AckisWorkthat's really odd that it did that
18:26.14Vulcanuswhen hovering the expand button
18:26.15AckisWorksexy
18:26.44AckisWorktype /arl and go to the about section
18:27.01Vulcanusoooo
18:27.05Vulcanuslooks nice
18:27.18AckisWorkthat's all thanks to Tekkub, I just modified his work for my own needs
18:27.24Vulcanusis it free for all to steal for their own mods?
18:27.46AckisWorkyes
18:27.50Vulcanusawsum
18:27.51AckisWorkjust credit Tekkub
18:27.56Vulcanusofc
18:28.03AckisWorkI'm going to add some documentation to it later on
18:28.06Tekkubmy shit's always free with the condition you give it a full new name if you modify it
18:28.27Tekkubnone of that "reborn continued" shit
18:28.34AckisWorkTekkub: It has a new name, LibAboutPanel roflz
18:28.35Vulcanuslmao
18:28.49TekkubI know AckisWork
18:29.26AckisWorkI snickered when I changed it to that, not gonna lie
18:29.43VulcanusAHA managed to produce an error
18:30.01StanzillaAboutPanelz
18:30.02AckisWorkno
18:30.06VulcanusI tried typing /arl about and it whined about no options table registered
18:30.16AckisWorkreally?
18:30.21AckisWorkwtfbbq
18:30.33VulcanusAckisRecipeList-0.91\AckisRecipeList.lua:997: Usage: HandleCommand("slashcmd", "appName", "input"): 'appName' - no options table "AckisRecipeList" has been registered
18:30.47AckisWorkmight be my spacing issue
18:30.48AckisWorkheh
18:31.11Vulcanusthis whole "making stuff break" is fun
18:31.27Vulcanuseyes an option for "Test GUI"
18:31.32Vulcanuschuckles
18:33.45Vulcanusze option, it doez nozing
18:34.09VulcanusAckisRecipeList: Test purposes only <-- sad panda
18:34.34AckisWorkreload your UI
18:34.39AckisWorkthen try a scan
18:34.45Vulcanusoh it wants a reloadui
18:34.53AckisWorkit's not documented :P
18:35.12Vulcanushehe
18:35.50Vulcanusyeah ok, now next step is to actually fill out this new GUI with recipes
18:35.50VulcanusXD
18:36.03Vulcanusoh wait, it had all filters unchecked
18:36.03AckisWorkheh
18:36.09AckisWorkno it won't do anything
18:36.18Vulcanusoh ok XD
18:36.52Vulcanusbtw if you try to hit scan skills after you uncheck the test gui (before reloadui) itll error out
18:36.59Vulcanuswant it?
18:37.09AckisWorkyou need to reload the UI after unchecking it :)
18:37.33VulcanusI know, just thought you might be interested in what it has to sya if I dont ;p
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18:37.56CIA-4403ackis * r77747 10AckisRecipeList/ (26 files in 3 dirs):
18:37.56CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
18:37.56CIA-44- "AckisRecipeList" -> "Ackis Recipe List"
18:37.56CIA-44- Probably will break something
18:37.56CIA-44- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
18:38.10AckisWorkI've had the same error, it's how the loading works, not worth fixing because it won't be an issue with only one GUI
18:38.17Vulcanustrue
18:38.20AckisWorkand that revision should fix your error
18:38.41Vulcanushm now what else can I attempt to break with it...
18:39.21AckisWorkfix some bugs for me?
18:39.26VulcanusI do have one suggestion tho: Maybe put default profile to char, since otherwise it won't support aldor/scryer filtering without me manually setting profile for every char
18:39.35Vulcanusno I said break
18:39.35VulcanusXD
18:39.44AckisWorkfix: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/ackis-recipe-list/tickets/3-if-you-open-two-trade-skill-windows-and-scan-one-of/
18:39.55AckisWorkmake a ticket
18:40.57VulcanusI cant open two tradeskill windows XD
18:41.23VulcanusI use default UI for that, and itll only let me have one open at any time
18:42.04AckisWorkenchanting/something else?
18:42.04CIA-4403Thaoky * r77748 10Altoholic/ (48 files in 2 dirs):
18:42.04CIA-44Altoholic:
18:42.04CIA-44- Updated the UI, it's now using tabs.
18:42.04CIA-44- Added an "all-in-one" view for the bags.
18:42.04CIA-44- Loot table updated with AtlasLoot 4.06.00
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18:43.50Vulcanusthere, made the tikket
18:43.58AckisWorkgood girl
18:44.00AckisWork;)
18:44.43Vulcanushey I only play female chars because they look better!
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18:45.26sdoubleI play female characters when the males looke retarded.  ie: blood/night elves
18:45.32sdoublelook
18:45.59AckisWorkmy first toon was female (female human), during MC back in the day I proclaimed to the raid that "wow her breasts move up and down as she breaths"
18:46.28sdoubleI also enjoy having a female as a tank
18:46.48sdoublejust for the fact that it's a female taking a beating
18:48.35ZhinjioGood morning.
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18:49.54AckisWorksup Zhinjio
18:50.03AckisWorkVulcanus: how hard is it to do what you suggested btw?
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18:51.48Vulcanusyou have to add a parameter to a function call, lemme find it
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18:59.01Vulcanusha, TortoiseSVN 1.5 is so much faster than 1.4 ;o
18:59.22AckisWorkshit forgot to update last night
18:59.41AckisWorkis there an easier way to update w/o externals?
19:01.51Fisker-new tortoise = good tortoise :o
19:02.28Zyndromeold tortoise = older tortoise
19:03.15CIA-4403belazor * r77749 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc):
19:03.15CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
19:03.15CIA-44- Self-solved CurseForge Ticket #17 (with permission)
19:03.15CIA-44- Default profile is now saved per-character, supporting Aldor/Scryer filters on different chars.
19:03.15CIA-44- OMG NOT DRYCODED :D
19:03.22AckisWorkroflz
19:04.46VulcanusI swapped the context menu to use "Update to revision..." where you can check Omit Externals
19:04.56Vulcanusinstead of the regular Update menu which does it auto
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19:06.50AckisWorkhow can I make the command line svn download new files? for some reason it's not updating properly and getting new files
19:07.07Vulcanusonly problem with the tiny commit I did was that it doesn't actually update the SVs for those already using the mod, but meh :p
19:08.12Vulcanushm, "db.profile" works with whatever profile is selected eh? useful
19:08.51Ellipsis~tickle Zhinjio
19:08.52purlACTION jumps on Zhinjio, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"
19:10.42Vulcanus:o ellipsees! only girl in #wowace who has submitted pictorial evidence of gender claim
19:11.17Ellipsistakes a bow
19:11.24AckisWorkreally? /gasp
19:11.30Vulcanusrly
19:12.15nevcairieli didnt see it, msut be a fake claim
19:12.37EllipsisI didn't see you proving your gender either
19:12.39VulcanusI probs have it on my laptop still
19:12.41EllipsisI suppose that makes you a robot!
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19:13.10durcynFile: `ellipsis.png` Size: 43453 Blocks: 88 IO Block: 4096 regular file
19:13.14AckisWorkwhere was it posted? lol
19:13.18Ellipsis>_>;
19:13.19durcynyou missed out, nevcairiel
19:13.34Ellipsisyou know, there are easier ways to find porn...
19:13.37nevcairieli has a pic in my curse profile
19:14.10AckisWorkso, why does svn not want to download missing files from my local copy?
19:14.11Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
19:14.28durcynAckisWork: you fucked up your checkout
19:15.12VulcanusIll go on my laptop and see if I can find the pic there XD
19:15.28Ellipsis...or, y'know, people could just ask me...
19:15.38Dashkalhttps://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html
19:15.54AckisWorkEllipsis: stalking is better
19:16.02Vulcanusye ok link it again plx, saves me having to boot up the craptop ^^
19:16.44Ellipsis<PROTECTED>
19:16.50Ellipsishappy? :P
19:16.55AckisWorkpoor Ellipsis
19:17.07Vulcanusooh different one than I had
19:17.08Vulcanus:D
19:17.12Ellipsismeh
19:17.22EllipsisI don't remember which one I linked you
19:17.40Vulcanusthe far away one in the blue shirt
19:17.46Ellipsisah
19:17.52Tornhoofheh
19:17.54Ellipsisyeah I have that one somewhere too
19:18.04Fisker-*fap fap fap*
19:18.06AckisWorkdurcyn: c:\_LOCALdata\svn-win32-1.4.6\bin\svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AckisRecipeList --ignore-externals
19:18.07VulcanusXD
19:18.17AckisWorkthat
19:18.20AckisWorkfuck
19:18.24AckisWorkthat's how I checkout stuff
19:18.32Ellipsis<PROTECTED>
19:18.32DashkalHeh, nothing like I expected... but then I have no idea what I expected
19:18.40Vulcanus:D
19:18.40EllipsisOMG NREF Fisker-
19:18.43AckisWorkEllipsis: you actually did it, poor girl
19:18.52Ellipsisdid what now?
19:18.57AckisWorkposted a pic
19:19.07Ellipsisnot like it's the first time
19:19.12AckisWorkahh
19:19.23AckisWorkI was setting up for a joke of a channel w/ 75 nerds, etc
19:19.36Ellipsisthere are far more than 75 nerds in here
19:19.42Vulcanus252
19:19.43VulcanusXD
19:19.46Zhinjio<-- counts as 2
19:19.47Dashkaltoo slow...
19:19.47nevcairiellol
19:19.51Ellipsisjust because they're silent doesn't mean they're not fappi-- I mean, reading
19:19.57AckisWork...
19:19.58Dashkallol
19:20.10DashkalYou're somewhat safe... some of us are at work :p
19:20.16Xinhuani count as 3 nerds
19:20.17VonhintenHOME`fap fap
19:20.17AckisWorkDashkal: bathroom what?
19:20.22AckisWorkXinhuan: hi
19:20.25Dashkalewww
19:20.25Vulcanuslmao people pouring in now
19:20.31nevcairielXinhuan is a robot anyway
19:20.34Ellipsisthey all come out of the woodwork /sigh
19:20.48Xinhuandid anyone complain about my absence in the last few weeks?
19:20.50AckisWorkwoodworking... heh I see what you did now
19:21.04EllipsisXinhuan: I missed you terribly
19:21.10AckisWorkping durcyn
19:21.11nevcairielXinhuan: i wouldnt know, i wasnt around much either
19:21.15VonhintenHOME`something is definitely coming out of the wood
19:21.16Xinhuanhah
19:21.23Xinhuanbanging head on felmyst :(
19:21.28ZealotOnASticknevcairiel, someone said you're one of the ones working on/maintaining threat2?
19:21.32Xinhuantonight first time reached enrage... at 46%
19:21.36AckisWorkXinhuan: We killed KJ
19:21.46Xinhuani would recruit you :(
19:21.49nevcairielZealotOnAStick: i try to if something urgent comes up, why?
19:22.13Xinhuani maintain it too ZealotOnAStick
19:22.27ZealotOnAStickWell, there's a specific trash mob in SWP that's not being handled at all by it . . . plus warlock soulshatter resists are -still- broke, and I'm wondering to whom or where I should toss this stuff at.
19:22.32Stanzilla[21:20:50] <Xinhuan> did anyone complain about my absence in the last few weeks? < yes, me
19:22.37Xinhuanwhich mob is it
19:22.39ZealotOnAStickHonestly, I haven't looked to see if there's a Jira for it or something yet.
19:22.44nevcairielZealotOnAStick: trash? dont hold your breath :P
19:23.02nevcairielresist .. hrm
19:23.05nevcairieli thought they work now
19:23.09Xinhuansoulshatter resists? that should have been fixed months ago
19:23.16ZealotOnAStickChaos Gazer - http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=25595
19:23.19Xinhuannow it just assumes that SS works
19:23.29Xinhuanunless specifically receiving a resist message
19:23.55ZealotOnAStickIt has an ability - moment, trying to find the name - that's a full aggro dump.
19:24.02nevcairielIts trash
19:24.06nevcairielcant be that important?
19:24.28Xinhuanwhat exactly is not being tracked by omen on it?
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19:25.26ZealotOnAStickit's not resetting/removing/reducing tank aggro when that ability is used.
19:25.35Xinhuanand the ability name is?
19:25.45Xinhuanomen doesn't reset threat to 0 unless specifically programmed to do so
19:25.50NeoTron_Xinhuan: 46% - painful
19:25.58ZealotOnAStickIt may be trash, but it's a "can thrash a third of the raid before the tank is recovered because people's threat still looks good"
19:26.01ZealotOnAStickPetrify
19:26.36Xinhuanit sets the person it stuns to 0 aggro?
19:26.40Xinhuanor full raid wipe? or?
19:26.43ZealotOnAStickit seems to.
19:26.56ZealotOnAStickJust the person(s) the ability is on.
19:27.00NeoTron_ZealotOnAStick: afaik it's just a temporary dump. Petrify
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19:27.01ZealotOnAStickGenerally whoever is tanking it.
19:27.09AckisWork~lart Fisker-
19:27.09purlforces Fisker- to use Outlook Express
19:27.11Xinhuanthat's easy enough
19:27.12NeoTron_like, say, divine shield
19:27.14ZealotOnAStickOur MT disagrees with you.
19:27.33AckisWorkZealotOnAStick: You need another tank to taunt, and petrify can be dispelled
19:27.38NeoTron_I'd say it's completely pointless to 'hack' if in for whatever reason
19:27.44cladhaireit makes me cry that wowdb shows aspx in the URL
19:27.48NeoTron_it's not like it's hard to handle with a tauntable, single mob
19:27.54cladhairelike.. lrn2rewrite =/
19:28.04Dashkalcurse.com itself is going .NET ...
19:28.24selckinthey rewrite completely in a diffrend language every year tho
19:28.27ZealotOnAStickand soulshatter resists, I will say firsthand, Threat2 isn't handling right.  Multiple resists on Felmyst or Brutallus, then my threat is halved, and I've got no damn clue where my threat -really- is.
19:28.28cladhaireyep
19:28.48ZealotOnAStickWell, the last python/django version is a mess.
19:28.56durcynpong AckisWork
19:28.56cladhaireyep
19:29.01cladhairezeeg did a bang up job on it :P
19:29.10ZealotOnAStickcladhaire, what would you suggest for the url?
19:29.30nevcairielwowdb.com/npc/25595
19:29.32nevcairielimho
19:29.33Xinhuanso ZealotOnAStick, can anyone else confirm that that Petrify is an aggro drop?
19:29.51AckisWorkdurcyn: did you see my checkout command?
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19:30.17purlmoos at AckisWork
19:30.23AckisWorkdurcyn: c:\_LOCALdata\svn-win32-1.4.6\bin\svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AckisRecipeList --ignore-externals
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19:30.30NeoTron_ZealotOnAStick: so on felmyst, sure you weern't just out of range?
19:30.33ZealotOnAStickTank gets petrified.  Mob goes elsewhere (be it another tank or a dps).  Tank gets dispelled.  Tank still has to retaunt/bash/etc, and not just get back within melee range, to re-aquire aggro.
19:30.50ZealotOnAStickThere was a clear Resist message.
19:30.57EllipsisAckis: add your svn folder to your path
19:30.57ZealotOnAStickand I'm damn sure I wasn't out of range on Brutallus.
19:31.13Xinhuanackis, can you confirm if petrify drops aggro?
19:31.15ZealotOnAStickGiven that, the last time I remember it happening, I was in melee range.
19:31.24AckisWorkEllipsis: it automatically checked it out into a sub-folder of AckisRecipeList
19:31.35Ellipsisno, I mean the folder where your svn binary is
19:31.41durcynAckisWork: yeah, that should work actually
19:31.57Ellipsisthat way you can do 'svn co whatever' and save yourself a bunch of typing :P
19:31.58ZealotOnAStickas far as "
19:32.07nevcairielZealotOnAStick: wowdb really needs that "spells used by this npc"-feature, wowhead owns you there :P
19:32.09nevcairielhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=46288
19:32.11AckisWorkEllipsis: ahh, yah no can do here at work =/
19:32.14ZealotOnAStickas far as "pointless" - what point is a threat library if it's not trying to be accurate?
19:32.14nevcairieldoesnt say anything about aggro dump
19:32.43durcynAckisWork: yes you can.  add a user-specific PATH variable and it'll be prepended to the system global var
19:32.51durcynAckisWork: sysdm.cpl
19:33.06EllipsisAckis: also, if you're intending to modify your addon, you should probably checkout from dev instead of svn...
19:33.16ZealotOnAStickNo, it doesn't, but then a lot of abilities in the game, especially mob abilities, don't thoroughly document everything they do.
19:33.16XinhuanZealotOnAStick, adding the petrify aggro dump is easy, its just inserting 6 bytes into the file, but i need more than just 1 person confirming that its an aggro dump
19:33.48Xinhuangoogling for "chaos gazer aggro" isn't giving me any results
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19:34.01NeoTron_to me it seems more likely that this happened
19:34.13NeoTron_MT gets petrify, OT taunts, MT is cleansed, MT must taunt back
19:34.26ZealotOnAStickour MT isn't on right now, or I'd talk to him directly.
19:34.47ZealotOnAStickbut we've been playing with these things for over a month, and our MT is positive now it's just an aggro wipe.
19:35.01ZealotOnASticknevcairiel: that's being added for the next push, actually.
19:35.05NeoTron_or even MT petrify, ranged pulls aggro (eye out of MT melee range), MT is unpetrified and not high enough threat to automatically regai aggro
19:35.30ZealotOnAStickright.  Moving back into melee range doesn't regain it alone.
19:35.48NeoTron_I honestly try to think of why this is REALLY an issues. Accuracy sure, but it doesn't really matter
19:35.51ZealotOnAStickUsually the threat margin has dropped by that point, because a couple of clothies have died in the interim
19:36.23ZealotOnAStickI'll bug Pins on this . . .
19:36.29ZealotOnAStickwould any sort of logging be useful?
19:36.35Xinhuannope
19:36.49ZealotOnAStickAnyway, the soulshatter resists not being handled, that I know to be an issue.  :P
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19:37.21Xinhuani'll need logs for the soul shatter one
19:37.31Xinhuan/combatlog that is
19:37.49ZealotOnAStickok.
19:38.01ZealotOnAStickI'll weep but use loggerhead for a while until I get one.
19:38.12ZealotOnAStickit's an irritating thing to -make- happen
19:38.19AckisWorkomg ty for that path hint durcyn, life = easier
19:38.45NeoTron_actually pretty easy
19:38.50NeoTron_just take off all your spell hit gear :P
19:39.05ZealotOnAStickI helped antiarc get a log for threat1 . . .
19:39.14ZealotOnAStickit wasn't that easy to make happen.
19:39.46Xinhuanheh
19:40.23ZealotOnAStickand sorry, I'm not going to stand around with no spell hit against the mobs it's mostly likely to happen with (raid bosses).
19:40.36NeoTron_your loss ;-)
19:40.53NeoTron_but that said you don't need a raid boss to test it, really.
19:40.56selckinSPELL_MISSED,0x0000000001754B79,"Bym",0x514,0xF13000638E0009CE,"Shadowsword Vanquisher",0x200a48,32835,"Soulshatter",0x20,RESIST
19:41.41selckinSPELL_MISSED,0x0000000001754B79,"Bym",0x514,0xF130005A4700102B,"Shadowy Construct",0xa48,32835,"Soulshatter",0x20,IMMUNE
19:41.45selckinmore?
19:44.07selckinXinhuan: ZealotOnAStick ^
19:44.10DashkalNifty.  The criteria for beta selection is: "It will be random." -- Neth
19:44.37selckinbanging your head on m'uru should be automatic beta invite as a confort
19:45.01DashkalHeh, I'm quite happy end-game raiding/arena isn't a requirement.  T4/S1 scrub here
19:46.12ZealotOnAStickselckin: no kidding.
19:46.25ZealotOnAStickThat fight is such a drain.
19:46.39NeoTron_M'uru is fun
19:46.45NeoTron_it's like Vashj phase 2 on steroids
19:46.47ZealotOnAStickcompared to the one just before it, where I get to have fun tanking Alythess. . . .
19:47.12ZealotOnAStickWhat class do you play, NeoTron_?
19:47.16NeoTron_lock
19:47.25NeoTron_and yes I also tank
19:47.29ZealotOnAStickI, as a warlock, on M'uru, run forward, stand still, then hit 4 buttons the entire fight.
19:47.46NeoTron_I raid lead
19:48.09selckinkill _before_ next sentinel !!!
19:48.13NeoTron_which means I have a bit less of a tunnel vision than that
19:48.32NeoTron_we just started though. I know it's one of the most demandnig fights in the game and we might b tired of it in a month
19:48.32selckinwe fail so much on that
19:48.48NeoTron_but the expectations are correct - we expect to wipe 3-6 times as much as on any other boss
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19:49.54durcynmuru is a sonofabitch.  
19:50.08durcynaverage wipe count for guilds who've killed him is what, ~350?
19:50.13XinhuanZealotOnAStick, does the aggro drop thing on soulshatter resists, work sometimes?
19:50.17Xinhuanor always fail?
19:50.40AckisWorkyes muru was hard
19:50.41ZealotOnAStickwhat happens currently, is if I soulshatted, it halves my threat.  Whether it's resisted or not.
19:50.45AckisWorkbut it was nice killing that bastard
19:50.50ZealotOnAStickIf it's resisted, then it shouldn't change threat any.
19:51.01ZealotOnAStickon multiple mobs, I can see some confusion.
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19:51.16Xinhuanyou're going to have to ask antiarc to check
19:51.17ZealotOnAStickbut when it's a single (boss) mob, having my threat halved, when it was resisted, really bites.
19:51.32Xinhuanbecause the soulshatter stuff uses transactional stuff
19:51.47Xinhuanand there's like 6 pages of that transactional code all based on timers
19:51.59ZealotOnAStickwe've been working on m'uru for about a month, in which we've really only had 3 or 4 solid nights of full, real attempts on him, due to various attendance issues (which we're fixing)
19:52.26Xinhuanbasically you cast Soulshatter, threat2 says "i know you cast SS, i'm going to half your threat on all mobs if i don't get resists in the next 0.5 seconds"
19:52.50Xinhuanso any resist messages received in the next 0.5s or so would get removed, everything else get committed
19:53.02Xinhuanget what i mean?
19:53.17ZealotOnAStickit checks for a resist specifically on SoulShatter, or just a resist?
19:53.27Xinhuanspecifically a resist on soulshatter
19:53.43Xinhuanon spellID 32835 as well as 29858
19:53.55ZealotOnAStickmake it a bit longer?
19:54.03Xinhuanor to be more specific, it checks for SPELL_MISSED on those 2 spellIDs
19:54.19Xinhuanand a SPELL_MISSED could be due to "resisted" or "immune"
19:54.36Xinhuanwhich is irrelevant here
19:54.48ZealotOnAStickright.
19:54.55Xinhuani don't even know if the transactions are timed at 0.5s
19:54.58ZealotOnAStickI don't ever recall -ever- seeing an immune message on it.
19:55.06Xinhuanor if its just commited at the next combat log event that changes your threat
19:55.14Xinhuan[7/4 03:41:39] <selckin> SPELL_MISSED,0x0000000001754B79,"Bym",0x514,0xF130005A4700102B,"Shadowy Construct",0xa48,32835,"Soulshatter",0x20,IMMUNE
19:55.18Xinhuanpretty sure that's an immune :)
19:55.21ZealotOnAStickbut I've seen resists, and watched my bar plummet to the bottom of the list, when I know it's really somewhere much higher.
19:55.25Xinhuanand it sounds like teron gorefiend
19:56.23ZealotOnAStickThat would make sense there.  I generally don't think I've had to shatter on that fight in many months, though, either.
19:56.26durcynresist shows a similar message
19:56.28Xinhuanif transaction and t - transaction.time > (0.65 + lag) then
19:56.28Xinhuanself:commitTransaction(transaction)
19:56.30durcynSPELL_MISSED,0x00000000005D7D14,"Draxyl",0x514,0xF130006317000061,"Sunblade Arch Mage",0x410a48,32835,"Soulshatter",0x20,RESIST
19:56.39durcynso that should be fine
19:56.46Xinhuanappears that the commit transaction time is based on 0.65+ping
19:56.54Xinhuanlag is defined as local lag = select(3, GetNetStats()) / 1000
19:57.10Xinhuanso if you have 200 ms, that's 0.85s
19:57.17Xinhuanif you have 10ms, that's 0.651s
19:57.44Xinhuanand the timer is checked every 0.4+clientLatency seconds
19:57.54Xinhuanself:ScheduleRepeatingTimer("commitTransactionsPeriodic", 0.4 + clientLatency)
19:58.19Xinhuanso, every 0.4+lag, it checks the timer, but only does the commit if its > 0.65+lag
20:00.33NeoTron_so for soul shatter, the transaction timeotu could be 5 minutes..
20:00.44NeoTron_just saying
20:01.08Xinhuanit isn't though, its checking the timer every 0.4+lag... which is usually less than 500ms even for oceanic ppl
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20:02.27Xinhuanof course, i'm assuming that the code in warlock.lua works
20:02.33Xinhuanand that the problem lies somewhere else
20:04.16NeoTron_maybe the delay is longer
20:04.37NeoTron_like check delta in combat logs between cast and immune message
20:04.44NeoTron_seems unlikely but alas
20:04.49Xinhuanhence i asked for combatlogs
20:05.08Xinhuanthe start of the transaction is during SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS
20:05.42Xinhuanwhich is for spellID 29858 (soulshatter)
20:05.57Xinhuanthe resist messages appear to come from both 29858 or 32835 randomly
20:05.58NeoTron_I'd check but can't log on my home box
20:09.28Xinhuansoulshatter, taunts and sunders all use transactions
20:09.50Xinhuansunders when stacked to 5, stops giving combatlog messages on refreshing
20:10.14Xinhuanso on cast, a transaction is started, and if its not parried or whatever, its committed
20:10.40Xinhuanas you can imagine, tank threat is also a fragile thing, and mostly likely to be inaccurate as well
20:13.22NeoTron_really don't get why theer aren't normal combat log events stating that the mob was affected
20:13.34NeoTron_taunts add a debuff on the target, isn't that visible?
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20:14.49Xinhuanall buffs/debuffs have an issue - the SOURCE isn't known
20:15.09Xinhuanthe combat log doesn't supply the sourcename for all buffs/debuffs
20:15.18Xinhuanso if the target has a taunt debuff on it, we don't know who cast it
20:15.25NeoTron_hmm ok
20:15.27Xinhuanso taunt has to be transactional and based on guesswork
20:15.48NeoTron_no spell cast success or anything?
20:16.09Xinhuanit starts at SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS
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20:16.15Xinhuanwhen i cast taunt, i ASSUME that the current target that the mob i'm taunting is the guy's threat i'm going to gain
20:16.27Xinhuanthn it commits that sometime later on not receiving a immune or resist
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20:16.48NeoTron_just wish blizz added a threat API for wow 3.90
20:16.51NeoTron_so we have to stop guessing
20:16.56Xinhuanthis means if i'm tauting brutallus, and at that instant, he's casting Burn on some poor priest, i'm going to assume taunt is gaining the aggro lvl of that priest
20:17.03Xinhuanand not the actual tank i'm taunting off
20:17.11NeoTron_yes
20:17.11Xinhuanthere is NO way around that
20:17.16NeoTron_and that's something that should be accounted for
20:17.26NeoTron_since you know that priest doesn't have aggro since he's not the top threat
20:17.42Xinhuanbut you don't, you don't know who is really tanking
20:17.47Ellipsisdoesn't taunt set your threat to the person on top of the threat list, not the person with aggro?
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20:17.58Xinhuana warlock could be on 120% threat but taunt only gains the threat of the 100% tank
20:18.01Xinhuannot the 120% warlock
20:18.04NeoTron_yes
20:18.11NivFreakhttps://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html
20:18.12Xinhuanand if taunt is casted at the time he's casting burn on a 30% priest
20:18.15NeoTron_but you can know, with a memory, that the warlock wasn't tanking
20:18.30Xinhuanits still not going to be accurate tbh, and you know it
20:18.39NeoTron_not accurate, but possibly more accurate
20:18.41Xinhuanbosses like shahraz changes targets so often
20:18.55Xinhuanyou'll end up assuming that some mage is the tank
20:19.32NeoTron_can't taunt shahraz afaik so not really an issue there
20:20.02NeoTron_if you think about it, pretty few boss mobs actually have an issue with this
20:20.05NivFreakthere's not many raid bosses you can taunt :)
20:20.16Ellipsisthe same problem applies to any trash that has a randomly targeted ability
20:20.33Ellipsisand apparently people actually look at threat meters on trash (?)
20:20.39NeoTron_I'm saying it might be prudent to have special cases for when taunt / threat is really important
20:20.44NeoTron_which is, primarily, brutallus
20:21.26NeoTron_essentially don't say the tank target is changed unless that target has tanked for more than a certain period of time
20:21.33NeoTron_1-2 seconds might be enough
20:21.51NeoTron_this also comes back to getting annoying threat warnings when brut puts a burn on a random person
20:22.06Ellipsiscouldn't you also check to see if the boss is actually casting?
20:22.18NeoTron_there's not always a cast is there?
20:22.18Ellipsisi.e. if the person has aggro .5 sec after the cast finishes, then they're the tank?
20:22.20kenlyric_holy crap a whole month without WoW
20:22.39Ellipsisshrugs
20:22.42NeoTron_and it would sort of be more special case, possibly. unless you check for casts in general
20:23.15Ellipsismost randomly targeted abilities (afaik) are either instant or have cast events
20:25.43NeoTron_one exception is encapsulate
20:26.03NeoTron_there's no cast events I think, sicne bigwigs require you to make the tank the /mt
20:26.33Ellipsisbleh
20:30.36Xinhuansee Ellipsis, its not so simple :)
20:30.41Xinhuanand what about encounters that require lock tanks
20:30.47Xinhuanlike illidan
20:31.46EllipsisI can't say I've ever gotten to fight illidan, so I don't know how in detail the encounter works
20:31.55Xinhuanor leotheras
20:32.01Xinhuanor high king mulgar (mage tank)
20:32.02Stanzillaor twins
20:32.08Stanzilla*wipes again*
20:32.10Xinhuanor kaelthas
20:32.30EllipsisI don't see why there would be an issue with any of those
20:32.50Ellipsisthe person tanking them would continue to have aggro after the cast on them finished
20:32.57Ellipsistherefore, they're the tank
20:33.00Xinhuanthe issue is in the assumption that any spellcasting from the boss is at somebody that isn't the tank
20:33.14EllipsisI didn't say to assume that
20:33.31EllipsisI said that regardless of whom the spell is targeted at, tank or not, the boss will target the tank immediately afterwards
20:33.51Xinhuanand to be perfectly honest to write something like that, we'll prob be better off writing omen3
20:33.56Ellipsisthe only exception I can think of would be aran, but that's rather silly
20:34.09Xinhuanbecause omen2 has a lot of stuff that either doesn't work or.. well just doesn't work
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20:34.47NeoTron_omen2 or threat 2?
20:34.53Xinhuanthreat2
20:34.58NeoTron_and yea, it doesn't matter who's doing the targeting at all
20:35.20Xinhuanfor eg, threat2 assumes that you can have at most 1 pet
20:35.30Xinhuanso it confuses and fucks up if you summon 3
20:35.40Xinhuani.e voodoo trinket, treants, etc
20:35.55Ellipsiswell, er, shouldn't someone fix that?
20:35.57Xinhuanand resetting aggro on pet is bugged
20:36.08Xinhuanit can't be fixed, because the pet module inherits from the classmodule core
20:36.26Xinhuanand none of the pet stuff does transactions either, although they should
20:36.37Xinhuanso a pet growl resist is counted as though it didn't
20:36.47Xinhuansomething like totems from a shaman
20:36.55Xinhuanthat's 4 pets + one real elemental pet
20:37.46Xinhuanand then there's healer threat
20:37.50Xinhuanit isn't accurate by any means
20:38.15Xinhuana mob when in combat, will affect healer threat - but omen doesn't know whether a mbo is in combat until the first combatlog event that touches it
20:38.40Xinhuanand if a mob is banished or sheeped, or cced, any threat generated isn't counted towards them, but omen counts them
20:38.40NeoTron_well that's fine
20:38.50NeoTron_that is more of an issue
20:39.14Xinhuanso if a mob is sheeped, cos i sheep pulled it, when it breaks, the mage will always have aggro - until a healer pulls it off by healing after it unsheeps
20:39.28Ellipsisthere's no way around that short of checking for specific CC debuffs, right?
20:39.33Xinhuanya
20:41.08Xinhuanthere's also other issues
20:41.15Xinhuanwith taunt
20:41.33Xinhuanthreat2 assumes that you are targetting the mob you are taunting
20:41.38Xinhuanif you aren't... it fucks up :)
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20:41.54Xinhuanso if you have say some mouse over taunt macro... lol gl
20:42.21Ellipsiso.O
20:42.30Ellipsisbut doesn't it at least have the combat log debuff application to look at?
20:42.40Xinhuandebuff/buffs doesn't supply sourcename
20:42.51KreamHello.
20:43.02KreamCan anyone tell me whether Rabbit from the wowace forums is on ?
20:43.26Xinhuanhe is nto on
20:43.28NeoTron_seen vhaarr
20:43.36NeoTron_~seen vhaarr
20:43.39purlvhaarr <n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 20h 58m 33s ago, saying: 'we'll do that next time, thanks'.
20:43.39Kreamah he's on as Vhaarr is he ?
20:43.43Xinhuanlast seen 9 days ago ;p
20:43.54Kreamah well
20:43.56NeoTron_that'd be correct
20:44.01Kreamthank you.
20:48.25nevcairielwonder where he is
20:49.06CIA-4403ascalia * r77750 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
20:49.06CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
20:49.06CIA-44- fixed "Ackis Recipe List" -> "AckisRecipeList"
20:49.47AckisWorkehh what'd I fuck up?
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20:56.54NeoTron_localization perhaps? :P
20:58.04AckisWorkno
20:58.15AckisWorkhttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua?r1=77749&r2=77750
20:59.00AckisWorkthing is, I don't know why it needed that
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20:59.25AckisWorkbecause I changed the addon to have the spaces when it's created
21:01.24sb./cry
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21:01.35sb2h brutallus wiping and i dont get it
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21:06.42VulcanusAckisWork, AckisRecipeList-0.91\AckisRecipeList.lua:133: attempt to index a nil value <-- happened at 77749
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21:08.17Vulcanusthe problem is that the title is set with spaces AFTER that line
21:09.42CIA-4403ackis * r77751 10Querier/ (Querier.lua Querier.toc):
21:09.42CIA-44Querier:
21:09.42CIA-44- Update version number
21:09.42CIA-44- Change regexp to be shorter/sexier
21:09.42CIA-44- Added Nemes code to find the spell ID from text
21:09.43CIA-44- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
21:11.00AckisWorkthe title is set in line 88
21:11.07AckisWorkie: AckisRecipeList = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("Ackis Recipe List", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0")
21:13.51CIA-4403profalbert * r77752 10Omnibus/Omnibus.lua:
21:13.51CIA-44Omnibus:
21:13.51CIA-44- fix nil-error when running scripts via "/omnibus run <scriptname>"
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21:19.29Zhinjioomg, these are full of awesome: http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/stickers/a6d0/
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21:23.27selckinXinhuan: you want combatlog snippets from the resists?
21:24.08AckisWorkhttp://www.jimo.co.uk/?p=62 lol Robin hood of wow
21:24.24selckinXinhuan: i'm seeing the spell_missed event _before_ the spell_cast_success event with the exact same timestamp
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21:25.54selckin(didn't have time to read whole backlog)
21:27.35selckinZealotOnAStick: ^
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21:44.09sbis brutallus patched? :/
21:44.31sbtheres a lot more dps from brutallus on our tanks
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21:44.45NivFreaktell them to turn around and face him
21:44.51sbok
21:44.54NivFreak;)
21:44.57NivFreakbut sorry, no idea
21:46.30Matrix110sb missing any important debuff or using CoR?
21:47.00sbofc CoR, but with screech pet
21:47.17NivFreak5/5 imp ds?
21:47.36Matrix110TC on?
21:48.06NivFreakscreech won't reduce AP enough to offset CoR as far as I know
21:49.02NivFreakoh, it stacks with DS
21:50.11Matrix110Killing Brutallus without TC/DS is annoying for the healer :D
21:50.19Matrix110we once had to do that...
21:50.32NivFreakno warrior tank?
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21:50.55Matrix110He couldnt come
21:51.02Matrix110And our DPS warriors all quit
21:51.03Matrix110:D
21:51.15NivFreakouch
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21:51.38Matrix110When Rogues miss BS they are almost useless :P
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22:09.05CIA-4403profalbert 07Parrot (newCombatLog) * r77753 10Parrot/ (Code/CombatEvents.lua Data/CombatEvents.lua):
22:09.05CIA-44Parrot:
22:09.05CIA-44- fix Extra-attacks, Range-events
22:09.05CIA-44- can now distinguish between "player killing blow" and "NPC killing blow"
22:11.12serpenthi
22:11.18BarMitzvahhiya
22:11.19serpenthi
22:11.33serpentwho are you fucker
22:11.58ethan12serpent wants to be banned
22:12.00Camcihoho your funny
22:12.09Camcinot
22:12.12serpentyeah boy
22:12.30ethan12hoho you hoho
22:12.36serpent<PROTECTED>
22:13.21serpentsunshine turn into the dark clouds of evil
22:13.36serpentsatin will rise
22:13.42serpentbow down
22:13.47serpentget a life
22:14.03ethan12raptoos dominus cheesypuffs
22:14.13serpentfall into the firing pit of hell
22:14.23serpentwith ghandi
22:14.30serpentyes ghandi
22:14.45serpentfalll into the firing pitt of hell
22:14.48ethan12here is my dark spell
22:14.50Camciwtf
22:14.59Ellipsiso.O
22:15.02Xinhuan[7/4 05:24:21] <selckin> Xinhuan: i'm seeing the spell_missed event _before_ the spell_cast_success event with the exact same timestamp
22:15.04serpentyes jimmy wtf
22:15.06Xinhuanthat's problematic then
22:15.32Xinhuanbecause there's no way to track an event that is supposed to happen before it is supposed to happen ~_~
22:15.32serpentdum dum want gumm gum:s
22:15.41ethan12ego vult neco tu! tu mortus
22:15.45serpentno nono
22:15.53ethan12now u will die
22:15.59Ellipsisunless you store any resists on important abilities cast by the player and then *wait* for the success
22:16.16serpentego my decepticons
22:16.32ethan12ego sum lego
22:16.53serpenttransformers black people meet there ffate
22:16.58Xinhuanthen that introduces problems of its own :(
22:17.12Ellipsiswell...only if you expect to see a spell resisted that you never cast
22:17.19serpentslaughtr houter
22:17.20Xinhuana whole new class of transactions where abilities occur before the cast occurs
22:17.32serpentslaughter house my bad
22:17.47Ellipsisyeah but you can expect that to happen relatively rarely and quickly
22:17.58Ellipsisso it's not like you're storing some gigantic table of things you've gotten resists of
22:17.58ethan12casts a spell (raptus dominus chesypufs! ego dominus sum!
22:18.03ethan12)
22:18.10serpentsuck my balls xinhuan
22:18.14Xinhuanits annoying to code
22:18.16profalbertthe timestamps are the same, so you can drop the "buffered" event after one second
22:18.50Xinhuani promise you, it'll be far easier to rewrite threat3 than to fix all these issues we didn't know would exist when the combatlog first came out in 2.4 :)
22:19.03EllipsisI'm sure it will
22:19.07ethan12i had some dreams they were clouds in my coffee
22:19.15ethan12clouds in my coffe and
22:19.26Ellipsisthat's no reason to forget about the bugs and not intend to fix/rewrite them
22:19.33ethan12your so vain
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22:19.38serpentgets balls out and gets xinhuan to bend down and suck them
22:19.54serpentsuck em
22:19.56ethan12prepare for me to cast my spell
22:19.58serpent<PROTECTED>
22:20.01Arrowmasterisnt 2.4.3 adding new combatlog events?
22:20.14profalbertAURA_REFRESH and stuff
22:20.23ethan12EGO DOMINUS VOS SUM!
22:20.37profalbertand some changes to AURA_DISPEL-stuff
22:20.41Xinhuanit is?
22:20.45profalbertyes
22:20.57Xinhuani might actually get to look at it then, when it arrives
22:21.02serpenti had some dreams that were crushed by satins rath
22:21.18serpentcrushed by satins rath
22:21.34Ellipsiswhat happened to nevcairiel, these guys are getting annoying :(
22:21.37serpentyou have sins
22:21.46serpentyou have sins
22:21.47Xinhuanhe should give me ops :)
22:21.53profalbert<PROTECTED>
22:22.03serpentscrew dumb bitch
22:22.33serpentblack and proud bitch
22:22.38serpentme he
22:22.44serpent<PROTECTED>
22:22.46Dashkalooo, chatzilla does have /ignore.  It just doesn't have a gui way to see the list... or any documentation on slash commands.. *sighs and looks up ircii*
22:22.51serpentaaaaaarrggggggggg
22:23.06serpentsuck my bals
22:23.24serpentim stoned
22:23.30serpentmoaned
22:23.32profalbertsame for pidgin
22:23.34serpent<PROTECTED>
22:23.44ethan12wnaker
22:23.45serpentyes wanka spanka
22:23.48ethan12wanker
22:23.56serpentwag em
22:24.04serpentbitch
22:24.15serpenteys your penis im gay
22:24.17ethan12please someone kick me
22:24.42Dashkalooo, nifty.  /commands shows all slashies
22:24.43ethan12PLEASE
22:24.49*** mode/#wowace [+b *!*.*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a766dc252fc5d4ec] by Cairenn
22:24.51ethan12im being forced here
22:24.53*** kick/#wowace [serpent!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn)
22:25.01ethan12kick me
22:25.01Dashkal<3 Cairenn
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22:25.41serpentyyyyyyeah
22:25.44ethan12please just kick me
22:25.47serpent<PROTECTED>
22:25.58ethan12my computers retarded so i cant leave
22:26.02ethan12PLEASE
22:26.04serpentill keep comin back
22:26.14ethan12im dieing here
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22:26.27serpentyou cant hold m
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22:26.37ethan12e
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22:26.50serpentimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm bbbbbbback
22:26.50*** kick/#wowace [ethan12!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn)
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22:27.15serpentsmit him
22:27.22ethan12thanks me computer wouldnt allow me to do that i just wanted to e able to move
22:27.45ethan12thank you Cairenn
22:27.45serpentsmitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssssssshiiiiiiiiit
22:27.55ethan12hugs Cairenn
22:28.03ZealotOnAStickwtf?
22:28.07serpentcairenn is a whore
22:28.27kd3sighs
22:28.34Camciyour a retard
22:28.45serpentyou suck
22:28.45Lukian<serpent> satin will rise <- I sure hope so, it's comfy
22:28.49Camcihoho i suck
22:28.51serpent<PROTECTED>
22:28.52Camcihoho
22:29.05ethan12not satin sAtin
22:29.05serpenthoe
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22:30.38ethan12u cant ban me
22:32.08ethan12ban me damn u
22:32.13ethan12fuckssaiufnfiuafiuf
22:32.13ethan12gsd
22:32.13ethan12hgs
22:32.14ethan12h
22:32.15ethan12adf
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22:32.21ethan12h
22:32.22CamciWTF IS YOUR FUCKING PRIOVBLEM
22:32.23ethan12het
22:32.25ethan12h
22:32.27ethan12e
22:32.27Camcifucking retarded fuck
22:32.29ethan12th
22:32.31DashkalIt's a troll, ignore it
22:32.33ethan12teh
22:32.35ethan12seh
22:32.37Dashkalliterally, /ignore
22:32.37ethan12et
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22:32.48Ellipsisyawns
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22:33.13ethan12tehy
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22:33.16NivFreakreally
22:33.17ethan12gtrh
22:33.19ethan12ths
22:33.21ethan12eh
22:33.23ethan12teh
22:33.25ethan12e
22:33.27ethan12hse
22:33.29Camcihe from japan
22:33.29ethan12h
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22:33.31ethan12hs
22:33.31Camcimakes sense really
22:33.33ethan12h
22:33.34Camcithey aer all retards
22:33.35ethan12teh
22:33.37ethan12tsh
22:33.39ethan12set
22:33.41ethan12hte
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22:33.45ethan12eh
22:33.46Nechcknit's like listening to the hybrid!
22:33.47ethan12teh
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22:33.51Nechckntell us more, oh wise one
22:33.53ethan12ht
22:33.55ethan12hse
22:33.57ethan12hye
22:34.01ethan12i want to be banned
22:34.03ethan12ffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
22:34.05ethan12fuck
22:34.07ethan12fuck
22:34.09ethan12fuck
22:34.10NivFreak<3 /ignore
22:34.11ethan12fuck
22:34.13ethan12fuck
22:34.13kd3wonders what the 12 year old is trying to accomplish
22:34.15ethan12fuck
22:34.19ethan12fuck
22:34.21ethan12fuck
22:34.25ethan12fuck
22:34.27ethan12fuck
22:34.31Nechcknbut then you miss all of the miraculous insight kd3
22:34.33ethan12fuck
22:34.35ethan12fuck
22:34.35Dashkalkd3: attention, of course
22:34.37ethan12fuck
22:34.39ethan12fuck
22:34.43ethan12fuck
22:34.53Camciis all japanees like you? :D
22:34.53kd3almost reminds me of someone with tourette's (sp? I can never spell that right)
22:34.54NivFreakhehe
22:35.02Camcifinally
22:35.06*** mode/#wowace [-b *!*.*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a766dc252fc5d4ec] by Cairenn
22:35.12*** mode/#wowace [+b *!*=18224938@gateway/web/*] by Cairenn
22:35.16Belazorso our instance server just died
22:35.16BelazorXD
22:35.32NivFreakouch
22:35.40Cairennsorry guys, the ban list was full, I had to come up with an addy I could remove first, before I could ban that guy
22:35.41NivFreakI hate having to wait for the 30 min soft reset
22:35.48Cairennmy apologies it took so long
22:36.01Camcilol
22:36.04NivFreakno biggie
22:36.10NivFreakignore is there for a reason
22:36.44dodgawow
22:36.48*** mode/#wowace [-b *!62d998ff@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a766dc252fc5d4ec] by Cairenn
22:36.49dodgathe banlist is frikkin long
22:36.54Cairennyeah
22:36.57Camcihow to see? :P
22:37.07dodgaCamci: /mode #wowace +b
22:37.22dodga11400831 secs ago  heh.. are those still needed? :>
22:37.38Camciheh
22:38.17Belazorsave the ban log on your comp and prune it, then send it to the other ops just in case some of them come back :p
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23:11.07CIA-4403orionshock * r77754 10GuildCraft/Libs/: GuildCraft: fix externals, copy paste is bad
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23:21.24whatsinthenamehas anyone been able to make wuu work with cursegaming?
23:22.16Orionshocklast time i checked you just copy past in the download url and install from URL
23:23.42whatsinthenamehow?
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23:32.32Ackislua> return gsub("foo ooo oooo"," ","")
23:32.33lua_botAckis: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'gsub' (a nil value)
23:32.48Ackislua> return string.gsub("foo ooo oooo"," ","")
23:32.49lua_botAckis: fooooooooo, 2
23:32.52Ackisahahahah
23:32.54Ackisvictory
23:33.22BelazorI sense another luac -p attempt at getting metadata to work with spaces :p
23:33.30Ackislmao
23:33.46Ackisyou totally called that
23:33.56BelazorXD
23:34.53Ackislua> return string.gsub("foo aaa bbb"," ","")
23:34.53lua_botAckis: fooaaabbb, 2
23:34.56Ackislua> return string.gsub("fooaaabbb"," ","")
23:34.57lua_botAckis: fooaaabbb, 0
23:35.15Belazorbtw I didnt commit anything because there was no difference to what was already in r50 so ;p
23:36.29Ackislua> return select(1,string.gsub("foo aaa bbb"," ",""))
23:36.29lua_botAckis: fooaaabbb, 2
23:36.36Ackisbut but I just want 1
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23:37.35profalbertlua> return select(2,string.gsub("foo aaa bbb"," ",""))
23:37.36lua_botprofalbert: 2
23:38.34profalbertlua> newstring = string.gsub("foo aaa bbb"," ",""); return newstring
23:38.34lua_botprofalbert: fooaaabbb
23:38.47Ackislua> a,b,c = "f",string.gsub("foo aaa bbb"," ",""),"d";return c
23:38.48lua_botAckis: d
23:38.54Ackislua> a,b,c = "f",string.gsub("foo aaa bbb"," ",""),"d";return b
23:38.54lua_botAckis: fooaaabbb
23:38.58Ackislua> a,b,c = "f",string.gsub("foo aaa bbb"," ",""),"d";return a
23:38.58lua_botAckis: f
23:42.34CIA-4403ackis * r77755 10AckisRecipeList/ (AboutPanel.lua AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc):
23:42.34CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
23:42.34CIA-44- Fix LibAboutPanel so that it takes spaces in addonname
23:42.34CIA-44- This will fix the about panel issues
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