IRC log for #wowace on 20080622

00:02.55Arrowmasterits easy
00:03.06Arrowmastermax zoom top down view
00:03.09RaydenUniei did
00:03.10RaydenUnii did
00:03.15RaydenUnii can't see any shadow until it's too late
00:03.21Arrowmastershadow?
00:03.31RaydenUnishadow of the torch
00:03.36RaydenUnii can't see the torch much either
00:03.38RaydenUniand i'm max zoomed out
00:03.39Arrowmasteri dont even have shadows enabled
00:03.56Arrowmasterif you cant see the torch then zoom out more
00:04.09Arrowmasterdo /console cameraDistanceMaxFactor 4
00:06.51Parnicor go into first person and look straight up
00:06.56Parnicit's harder to catch that way, but easier to follow
00:07.21Parnicharder to be on top of when it lands, i mean. the easiest way is uncrowded city + shadows
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00:10.19KillmoreXinhuan: I dont know how but, a friend just got 618 blossoms
00:10.47Xinhuanmaybe i missed something :)
00:10.57Xinhuanor he is horde?
00:11.03Killmorealliance
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00:12.27thulok, why do I not find windows vista 64 bit drivers for my nvidia card? :-(
00:12.29thulBLAST
00:12.29Xinhuandifference of 6 is weird
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00:13.03CIA-4403shefki * r77208 10PitBull/Aura/ (Core.lua Highlight.lua Options.lua):
00:13.03CIA-44PitBull_Aura:
00:13.03CIA-44- Allow selection of individual debuffs to highlight frames beyond the
00:13.03CIA-44<PROTECTED>
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00:18.09aestilckknight: is the pitbull group frame and pitbull raid frame something that resizes dynamically as people join/leave?
00:20.56breseraestil: Yes.  They're just group headers from secure templates.
00:21.01vithosthul: what case do you have that has only 140's?
00:21.55RaydenUniwhy does killing an alliance in org flag me?
00:21.57RaydenUnithat's dum
00:21.58RaydenUnidumb
00:22.38AeyanYou want to be able to kill them with invincibility?
00:23.01breseraestil: Why do you ask?
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00:24.50CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77209 10Bartender4/ (6 files): Bartender4: revert some changes to the action button code again to resolve a weird issue with moving spells (once again its not possible to move actions in combat)
00:25.48vithosthul: and vista 64 nvidia drivers are at http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_177.35_whql.html for GTX200 cards, http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_175.16_whql.html for everything else
00:27.24thulthanks!
00:27.40thulvithos: local shop that has it's own brand
00:27.53thulsecodn question: why doesen't blizzard europes downloads work? I WANT WOW :-P
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00:29.58vithosah i see
00:30.37vithosi probably have the .torrents still from the downloaders, which do you need?
00:30.49vithosthough mine would be enUS
00:31.56aestilbreser: i'm wondering if i can hook a panel to that frame and have give it an onsizechanged script.
00:31.59thulfound the classic, just have to get the expansion working now :-P
00:32.12thulwon't be done until tomorrow, so i should go to bed
00:32.30breseraestil: Depending how you do it may not be safe they're secure frames.
00:32.55thulI just wanted to check how my system performed before nighttime:p
00:33.48aestili'd like to listen for a change to group/raid
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00:35.21aestilthen if i'm not in combat, change the size of a panel.
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00:37.38thulbtw, anyone know of anything like quicksilver fo rwindows?
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00:39.09breseraestil: Probably can just securehook SecureGroupHeader_Update
00:39.11CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77210 10Bartender4/ActionBarStates.lua: Bartender4: seperate Tree of Life and Moonkin stance configuration (moonkin will also now actually work)
00:39.20aestili won't be doing this right now.
00:39.22aestil;)
00:39.25aestili'm just wondering if i CAN
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00:40.11breseraestil: Should be fine as long as you're careful about taint.
00:40.32aestilwould 'taint' break my panels forcing them to be the wrong size?
00:40.44aestilcause i always had problems with panels i parented to gridlayoutframe
00:41.01CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77211 10HotCandy/HotCandy.lua: HotCandy: change default bar scale
00:42.56breseraestil: Well you can't resize secure frames in combat so I'd assume that your child frames can't be either.
00:43.28aestilhmm.  well, it sounds like this is something i might be able to do.
00:43.32aestili'll wait for a better day.
00:43.37aestiland switch over to kgpanels
01:00.56CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77212 10Bartender4/ActionBars.lua: Bartender4: small fix
01:01.23Arrowmasteri think i just found my new favorite way of messing with lowbies
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01:01.52Pkekyo|g'mornin ladies
01:02.01vithoswhat's that Arrowmaster
01:02.14Arrowmasteri was sitting on the Telredor elevator on my netherdrake and doing /mountspecial when it was at the top before the lowbies got on and they would ride it down with me
01:02.30Arrowmastertwo of them jumped off the town to get down
01:02.37Arrowmasterand i never even attacked any of them
01:02.59Arrowmastererr they wouldnt ride it down with me
01:03.19Arrowmasterone got on then got right off before it moved
01:03.30vithoslol
01:03.35Arrowmasterthe whole time im just sitting on my netherdrake not doing anything
01:04.25vithosthat's the alliance town in zangarmarsh right?
01:04.39Arrowmasteryeah
01:04.43vithosso they definitely cratered then
01:04.55vithosgood times
01:04.56Arrowmasteryeah
01:05.42Arrowmasterits funny how once your 70 with a flying mount you dont really ever use stuff like elevators or tunnels or bridges in outland
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01:14.42Pkekyo|so...why the hell does µtorrent take up ALL of my bandwith when only downloading with 2kbps speed? >.<
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01:16.46DARKGuyo/
01:17.02Pkekyo|DARKGuy: fix µtorrent
01:17.26DARKGuyPkekyo|: :( uTorrent works for me, you pirate! :O
01:18.17Pkekyo|03:14Pkekyo|so...why the hell does µtorrent take up ALL of my bandwith when only downloading with 2kbps speed? >.<
01:20.13Pkekyo|also, I'm not pirating atm...distributing stuff I produced myself
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01:23.42DARKGuyPkekyo|: heh XD
01:23.45DARKGuyPkekyo|: liar! :P
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01:23.56DARKGuyPkekyo|: anyways, that's uTorrent's fault - or any torrent client for that matter :/
01:24.19DARKGuyIn all the time I've used any torrent client, they always suck up the bandwidth even if you're up/dl at 0.1Kb/s :(
01:24.52Pkekyo|that's fucking tits up retarded beyond belief
01:25.01DARKGuysometimes I'm downloading at 10Kb/s, meaning everyone else in my net gets 90-100Kb left free, and they whine that the internet is slow - WTF?. Same doesn't happen when I do a direct download though :P
01:25.14vithosumm
01:25.21Pkekyo|"you're seeding a torrent, so now you can't use your internet connection for the rest of the week"
01:25.31vithosprobably your ISP doing that on purpose
01:25.36vithosi don't know
01:25.40vithosthat doesn't make any sense.
01:25.41Pkekyo|nah
01:25.50DARKGuytorrent makes a lot of connections though
01:26.01DARKGuyyou might be uploading to one, but 99 are trying to connect to you
01:26.03Pkekyo|my ISP isn't at liberty to limit certain types of traffic
01:26.06DARKGuyshrugs
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01:27.14vithosi'm confused by what you're saying. it's not using all your bandwidth, but it's reducing your available bandwidth by some magical means?
01:27.27Pkekyo|yup
01:28.06Pkekyo|basicly, it's downloading 2kbps on a 1,5mbps connection, and still everything's as slow as old people fucking
01:28.11breserTorrent is magically bad.
01:28.24vithosis your router terrible/choking on trying to do some kind of connection tracking but going out of memory?
01:28.28Groktarthat's because it's using your entire upstream
01:28.33Groktardurp
01:28.47Pkekyo|Groktar: it's using my entire upstream to download stuff?
01:28.59Pkekyo|vithos: no
01:29.10Groktaryou understand that torrent goes both ways, right?
01:29.21Pkekyo|yeah
01:29.22Groktarwhen you download something it also shares it with other people?
01:29.42Pkekyo|yeah...but with a upload limit of 2kbps it shouldn't manage to use my entire 1,5mbps upstream
01:29.58Groktaridk then
01:30.06Groktari never using torrents because they're shite
01:30.14breserYou're not really giving enough info to draw any conclusions.
01:30.14vithosis it ACTUALLY using more than it says?
01:30.31breserHow do you know it's torrent causing it.  Could be an unrelated issue at your ISP.
01:30.32Pkekyo|vithos: no idea, all I know is that everything else gets slowed down
01:30.38vithosyou seem to be confused about some detail, because what you're saying is contradictory
01:30.48Pkekyo|breser: because it only happens when I download torrents :)
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01:30.53Pkekyo|vithos: durr? howso?
01:31.04breserPkekyo|: You check the load average, memory usage, etc of your router?
01:31.19Pkekyo|no
01:31.33breserWell do so.  Torrent opens alot of small connections.
01:31.36vithosbecause you've said 'no' to all possible explanations
01:31.57Pkekyo|if that's all possible explanations I'm jesus titty fucking christ
01:32.29Pkekyo|breser: how the flying fuck would I do that?
01:32.38vithoseither your ISP is reducing your available bandwidth in an effort to cause you to not use all of your oversubcribed bandwidth and generally be as evil as they can be
01:32.43breserPkekyo|: Use thee manual that came with your router.
01:32.54vithosor your router is choking on the number of connections because it's bad
01:33.16breserAnd if your router doesn't have a way to find out then it's not really a router and just an overgrown network adapter.
01:33.18Pkekyo|oversubscribed bandwidth? and NOOOOOOOO...I do not live in 'home of the brave and land of the free'...they're not at liberty to do that here
01:33.27Pkekyo|breser: manual? o.O'
01:34.13vithosyou could also just connect to the modem directly to see if it still happens
01:34.29DARKGuyPkekyo|: where do you live :O?
01:34.39breserSeaLand obviously.
01:34.47Pkekyo|no I can't, but it was still the case before I got the router...
01:35.02RaydenUnidoes ahune do some aoe that would affect casting?
01:35.03Pkekyo|DARKGuy: norway...a contract is kinda...binding here, no matter how much money you've got :)
01:35.04RaydenUniour healer couldn't cast
01:35.14ArrowmasterPkekyo|: you limited up stream to 2kbps?
01:35.23breserRaydenUni: Silence?
01:35.26Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: at times
01:35.29RaydenUnihe silences?
01:35.30DARKGuyPkekyo|: ah well, yay for unrestricted ISPs :D
01:35.32Arrowmasterthats way too low
01:35.33Arrowmasterdont
01:35.36RaydenUnibitter blast?
01:36.01Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: and what's the magical number?
01:36.05RaydenUnithe elites cast it?
01:36.23Arrowmasterput it at least at 5kbps if you dont want it to upload (assuming your not on dialup)
01:36.43Arrowmastersince the protocal traffic is calculated in that limit too
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01:37.12Arrowmasterbut usually you get a lot better results with torrents when your not restricting your upload to almost nothing
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01:37.49RaydenUniyou can redo ahune is you lose can't you?
01:37.52Pkekyo|the one I'm seeding atm is unlimited
01:38.13vithosthe thing is, i leave uTorrent running 24/7 with no limits on upstream/downstream even while raiding in wow, i just have QoS on my router configured properly so my WoW traffic doesn't get queued at the modem
01:39.20vithosi'm not saying torrents aren't involved, but i really don't think it's the torrents' "fault". something else is wrong
01:39.24breserYay for prioritizing port 3724
01:39.40Pkekyo|vithos: what µTorrent version?
01:40.01vithosi was using the 'latest' 1.8 betas until a few days ago, back to 1.7 stable now
01:40.11Pkekyo|I'm still running 1.7.2 build 3458
01:40.11Pkekyo|not touching the newer ones
01:40.37vithos1.7.7 8179
01:41.08Pkekyo|kinda fancy getting a new client after µTorrent let RIAA/MPAA stick their penor up it's butt...dunno which one to get though
01:41.25vithosdeluge would be one to try
01:42.28vithosor halite
01:42.48Arrowmasteri was thinking of switching to deluge since vuse went gay
01:42.54vithoshonestly i just wish azureus would fucking implement selective downloading correctly already
01:43.18Arrowmasterselective?
01:43.22vithosas in, not create thousands of files i have set to 'do not download'
01:43.38vithosand do what utorrent does which is a single 'partfile'
01:43.49vithosfor the pieces across file edges
01:43.54Arrowmasterdid you have it set to create all files when you start the torrent
01:43.59vithosno
01:44.16vithosit doesn't create every file
01:44.32vithosjust the ones that are part of the same 'piece' as a file i DO have set to download
01:45.08vithosunless they finally fixed that? i haven't tried in a few months
01:45.25Arrowmasterno clue
01:45.36Arrowmasteri usually dont download only parts of a torrent
01:46.40AeyanHuzzah, world server is down.
01:49.11Zyndromebonks himself on the noggin. Doh!
01:57.52Pkekyo|err...how do I start seeding a torrent with deluge?
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02:03.26vithosprobably just add the torrent and tell it to download it to where it already is. might want to make a copy of the dir until you know for sure
02:03.41vithosi only used it for long enough to see that it didn't do selective downloads right
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02:05.04Pkekyo|meh, I'll just download the entire file again :p
02:05.12Pkekyo|multiple seeders ftw
02:08.21Pkekyo|aw fucksake...deluge is localized in my language :(
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02:18.10Pkekyo|vithos: must've been µTorrent causing my problems... it doesn't happen with deluge
02:19.35vithoshmm.. what could the difference be
02:20.06vithosprotocol encryption or uPnP differences?
02:20.15Groktaroh jesus christ
02:20.24Pkekyo|Groktar: yeah, what do you want with me?
02:20.36Groktarspits on Pkekyo|
02:20.53Pkekyo|asks daddy God to strike Groktar dead.
02:20.53Groktarsomeone just linked me the most painful video
02:20.57Groktarhttp://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=OXxH5drYEl4 <- nsfw
02:21.06Pkekyo|vithos: no idea...I know that the µT version I was using had major problems with some crash bugs and such
02:23.21RaydenUniour healer keeps getting stunned/silenced on ahune :(
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02:29.30Pkekyo|aight, I'm off...g'nite ladies
02:33.01MegalonRaydenUni: perhaps he should move away from the slippery ice surfaces :p
02:34.15RaydenUnihmm
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03:09.52pastamanceranyone in here going to usenix?
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03:46.54DARKGuyusenix ?
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04:05.18erikhaww yeah
04:05.20erikhgot my beasts deck
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04:09.35RaydenUnilink?
04:09.35CIA-4403ackis * r77213 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhTW.lua:
04:09.35CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
04:09.35CIA-44- zhTW update
04:10.05erikhRaydenUni: look for "Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon" on wowhead
04:11.13Yssarilerikh: nice healer card
04:11.25erikhindeed :)
04:11.29erikhtook forever to grind the ace
04:11.57Yssarilhehe
04:12.43Yssarilyea who runs BRS anymore :P
04:13.00erikhpeople who like their resto druids having no mana problems in hyjal
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04:13.27RaydenUnibut
04:13.32RaydenUnii wanted you to do that for me
04:13.50RaydenUni:P
04:13.53RaydenUnimana regen, cool
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04:14.41erikhchance of innervate on cast :)
04:14.45erikhmore-or-less
04:14.55erikhnow i just have to wait 3 weeks to turn the deck in
04:15.00RaydenUniouch
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04:15.41Yssarilerikh: why 3 weeks?
04:15.49erikhdarkmoon faire just left
04:15.58Yssarilhehe
04:17.29Yssarildamn the BC decks have nothing for healers
04:18.25Yssarilworking on my second Darkmoon Card: Crusade
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04:45.37Ackisanyone on deDE client that uses ARL?
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05:23.33Poul|PTthat yarr tool thing with talents, have it been closed ?
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05:42.22CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77214 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ (Build.lua LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/PetAndMountDatabase.lua):
05:42.22CIA-44LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0:
05:42.22CIA-44- Added Don Carlos' Famous Hat
05:43.46Ackishow is a hat a pet or mount?
05:43.49Ackislol
05:46.35Megalonit summons a pet
05:46.55Megalonlike the pirate hat and the parrot
05:48.02Ackisahh cool
05:48.05Ackisdidn't know that :D
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05:57.15Arrowmasterwhat hat?
05:57.41AckisDon Carlos' Famous Hat
05:58.44Megalon2.4.3 PTR i think
05:59.15Megalona guy gives you a quest to go to CoT1 heroic, to beat his younger self up and get himself his hat, that was stolem from him when he was young
05:59.16Megalon:P
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06:36.21CIA-4403shefki * r77215 10PitBull/RaidTargetIcon/RaidTargetIcon.lua:
06:36.21CIA-44PitBull_RaidTargetIcon:
06:36.21CIA-44- Fix raid targets being wrong when the raid/party members changed.
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06:40.07thulhmm, if someone has a good torrent with both wow and tbc, let me know :-P
06:41.19Groktarwow c'thun at 70
06:41.55Groktarsololing two stomach tentacles as prot
06:41.56Groktarlol
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06:47.57breserthul: Why would you need a torrent, blizzard will let you download it from them.
06:48.28Inc`they even provide the downloads in semi-torrent form... lol
06:48.53breserhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=85662250&postId=35472485484&sid=1#21
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06:49.31thulbreser: i know, but the link doesen|t work for tbc
06:49.36thuli only get the wow obne working
06:49.38thul(europe)
06:50.37thulwell, I'm downloading kalyway and going to work :-P
06:50.38thulcya
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07:10.40CIA-44AtlasLoot_RepFactions:
07:10.40CIA-44- added price for ne sporeggar recipe
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07:11.28CIA-44AtlasLoot_WorldLoot:
07:11.28CIA-44- Lord Ahune heroic table added
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07:12.00CIA-44AtlasLoot:
07:12.00CIA-44- Lord Ahune heroic table added
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07:47.33Apoco~seen Digmouse
07:47.36purldigmouse <n=whhao198@222.94.149.34> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 3h 42m ago, saying: 'is it able to get a spell's id by its name? I dont find such an API'.
07:47.43Apocothese guys are lazy
07:47.44Apoco~_~;
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08:32.54CIA-44NDurability:
08:32.54CIA-44- add colours to values
08:32.54CIA-44- fix exception with offhand items
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09:17.12Lukiannevcairiel, I just noticed some weird behaviour with BT4 button lock
09:17.23Lukianif you attempt to move something on the action bar, it disappears :p
09:17.44kalahassi_i have a problem with mobspells, everytime i want to look up teron gorefiends abilities i get http://www.pastebin.org/45312
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09:19.44nevcairielLukian: thats some random bug that i couldnt really pin down yet <.< i think its blizzards fault somehow .P
09:19.57Lukiankk
09:20.02LukianI still have that dr damage error..
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09:20.33Lukianperhaps resetting my config might fix it, hmm
09:20.42Lukianno one else seems to have that error
09:21.10Fisker-NOOOOOOOOO
09:21.22Fisker-what mod had sex with my nameplates_
09:21.23Fisker-?
09:21.28Lukianaloft?
09:21.48Fisker-i don't use nameplate modifying addons
09:21.52nevcairielskinner
09:22.02Fisker-fuck you skinner ;_;
09:22.20Fisker-you've crossed the line!!
09:22.29Pkekyo|lolwut :p
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09:23.03Fisker-back to normal :)
09:23.48Fisker-wtf
09:23.55breserI kinda like the new skinner nameplates.
09:24.03Fisker-destroys breser
09:24.13CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77226 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: DrDamage: fix BT4 support again
09:24.43Fisker-hugs nevcairiel
09:25.11Zyndromewish BT4 could show all bars when you hold a hotkey ... since I play with hidden actionbars (set to Always Hide), it's a bit of a hassle when I respec and have to replace\place abilities :P
09:25.42Pkekyo|weird...my torrent seed chokes out at 104,6KiBps :p
09:25.52Arrowmasterhotkeys are useless since you cant use them in combat
09:26.12Zyndromedidn't say I want to use it combat
09:26.19Zyndromeit in*
09:26.48nevcairielArrowmaster: actually a hotkey could show all bars in combat :)
09:27.03Arrowmasteryeah but i always see people asking about it and theyre the kinda people that you know would always be asking the same question every week, 'why doesnt this work right?'
09:27.30Arrowmasternevcairiel: wouldnt they have to be invisable but still clickable?
09:27.38nevcairielnah
09:27.46nevcairielstate headers are your friend
09:28.00breserAnd another PitBull bug bites the dust.
09:28.34CIA-4403shefki * r77227 10PitBull/ (6 files in 6 dirs):
09:28.34CIA-44PitBull:
09:28.34CIA-44- Stop using IterateNonWackyFrames() since for some reason
09:28.34CIA-44<PROTECTED>
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09:29.59Pkekyo|anyone here familliar with deluge?
09:30.53Fisker-deluge?
09:32.01Pkekyo|torrent client
09:32.47Lukianuse transmission
09:33.42Pkekyo|I'm using deluge.
09:33.48Fisker-ew
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09:34.28Lukiandon't :p
09:35.21Pkekyo|yes I am
09:35.25Fisker-might as well give it a shot
09:35.54Fisker-utorrent isn't that great anymore :o
09:37.01Fisker-ui is ok
09:38.11Fisker-OMG
09:38.12Pkekyo|µTorrent is shite....and putting RIAA/MPAA's penor up it's bum
09:38.16Fisker-the translations are retarded
09:38.25Fisker-i hope i can change it to english :P
09:38.35Pkekyo|you can't
09:38.40Pkekyo|if you're talking about deluge
09:38.49Pkekyo|I chose english, but it went localized either way
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09:44.18Pkekyo|Fisker-: running deluge atm?
09:46.40Fisker-yeah
09:47.02Pkekyo|able to add multiple torrents? I'm not :p
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09:48.14Fisker-sec
09:48.33CIA-4403shefki * r77228 10PitBull/Aura/ (Frames.lua Update.lua):
09:48.33CIA-44PitBull_Aura:
09:48.33CIA-44- Use GetUnit() to find out the unit rather than storing it in the AuraFrame.
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09:48.40CIA-4403cwdg * r77229 10Bartender4/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
09:48.40CIA-44Bartender4:
09:48.41CIA-44add missing locales
09:48.48Fisker-works fine here
09:48.53Fisker-i can't add torrent urls though
09:49.02Pkekyo|what OS?
09:49.06Fisker-windows
09:49.20Fisker-it's a shame they haven't fixed async io either :(
09:49.27Fisker-so my upload is still shitty
09:50.26Pkekyo|aw sodding hell...I can only add ONE of the torrents I have >.<
09:50.39CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77230 10Bartender4/locale/ (deDE.lua esES.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua zhTW.lua): Bartender4: babelfish run to validate locale
09:50.48Fisker-it's the trial version :P
09:50.59Pkekyo|a fucking trial version?!
09:51.14Fisker-i see you failed sarcasm class :P
09:51.36Pkekyo|I see you failed sarcasm on the intarwebs class
09:51.44Fisker-your mother
09:51.50Pkekyo|is dead...fuck you
09:51.59Fisker-also
09:52.05Fisker-this addon fails at selecting individual files
09:52.38Fisker-addon = torrent
09:52.40Fisker-client
09:53.19Fisker-https://translations.launchpad.net/~cybolic <-should harass this guy
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09:53.46CIA-4403maqjav * r77231 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.es.lua:
09:53.46CIA-44AtlasLoot:
09:53.46CIA-44-esES update
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10:00.25CIA-4403shefki * r77232 10PitBull/Aura/Update.lua:
10:00.25CIA-44PitBull_Aura:
10:00.25CIA-44- Show buff duration and allow buffs to be canceled from frames other than just
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10:03.11Fisker-btw Pkekyo|
10:03.22Fisker-it seems that deluge ignores dht restrictions
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10:08.28Pkekyo|dht?
10:10.18Fisker-trackerless shit
10:10.34Fisker-where people can find stuff from other persons who might have it
10:10.40Fisker-but private trackers don't want that
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10:11.11nevcairielso that client is probably banned by alot of private sites :P
10:11.25felesyacould anyone help me with google code and setting ace3 externals there? < new to svn :/
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10:24.46breserfelesya: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch07s03.html
10:26.49breserfelesya: Make sure you point the externals to http://svn.wowace.com/wowace as opposed to the private developer SVN URL.
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10:28.06felesyathank you :)
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10:31.11Pkekyo|does WoW write crash logs or something?
10:32.14ThraeUsually to the desktop under Logs, sometimes in the folder itself under Logs.
10:32.53Pkekyo|sodding hell, wow won't launch
10:33.01Pkekyo|err, I can't log in, that is
10:33.08CIA-4403Zarni * r77233 10HuntersMark/ (. HuntersMark.toc): HuntersMark: fix embeds.xml and externals
10:33.59Pkekyo|it's my appointed nerdytime now, I need to be able to play wow! :p
10:35.12ThraePkekyo|: Try rebooting without saving your files.
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10:38.54Pkekyo|how do I 'reboot without saving my files'? :/
10:47.49kalahassi_the new event boss in slave pens , ahune, does he spawn the spikes on a player or is it totally rndm where they occur?
10:48.47nevcairielits on players
10:48.52nevcairielbut you can move out of those
10:50.43kalahassi_i already successfully moved away and killed him, just wanted to know if i was right
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11:15.09ktwohi does anyone know if vindicator items (boots,etc) are going to be purchaseable with badges when s4 goes off?
11:15.36nevcairielthey dont want to change the badge pvp gear, last i heard
11:15.53nevcairielnor do they want to change the t6 token exchange
11:16.01ktwo:E wtf
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11:25.11CIA-4403pettigrow * r77234 10Bartender4/locale/ (FAQ.lua frFR.lua): Bartender4: frFR Update
11:28.20kalahassi_why cant you buy t5 with arenapoints? ;)
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11:29.48ktwocause getting T6 tokens for pvp is way more harder than doing arena to get pve x)
11:30.40Gnarfozyou don't say
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11:32.25syerenTier 6 content is actually piss easy in comparison :)
11:33.35ktwomight be true but most guilds just do not allow to spent T6 tokens for pvp gear, even more the sunwell-tokens cause they are still needed
11:34.08nevcairielpvp destroys wow
11:34.08syerenWell on my first raid in my current guild I got 2 full tier 6 sets :P
11:34.11nevcairielthey need to dump that
11:34.19syerenAnd as for the skill compared in them :p
11:34.24syerenNo one needs boosting in PVE, only PVP :>
11:38.12Gnarfozsyeren: you got 16 t6 tokens for your class? don't bullshit us.
11:38.25syerenHahah.
11:38.26syerenYes I did.
11:38.36syerenTier 6 from BT and Hyjal means shit all to my guild.
11:38.44syerenAnd Two Protectors of every single boss that could drop them :)
11:38.46Gnarfozwhich is... not a full t6 sets
11:38.54Gnarfoz-s
11:38.56syerenWell, full BT and Hyjal :p
11:39.14syerenI have Wrists, and I am waiting for Protector to drop from Brut, Felmyst, and Twins.
11:39.21syerenAnd once I have them they're FFA for PVP Purposes :p
11:39.30syerenUnfortunately we got 3X Vanquisher on each this reset :(
11:39.47nevcairielgear doesnt mean shit anyway
11:39.53nevcairielskill counts, and that doesnt drop :P
11:39.58syerenSkill?
11:39.59syerenIN PVE?
11:40.05syerenI'm a Resto Shaman.
11:40.06syerenI right click.
11:40.08syerenClique.
11:40.12syerenI'm a Warlock, I spam Shadow Bolt.
11:40.15syerenI'm a Mage.
11:40.19syerenScorch X 5, Fireball.
11:40.23syerenI'm a Paladin, HL 11 SPam.
11:40.25syerenzzzzzzzz
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11:40.39nevcairielskill is not the spells you use
11:40.50nevcairielbut its pointless to discuss that with people that start like that
11:40.53nevcairielgo back to your pvp games
11:40.53felesyasyeren: and what do you do as a holy priest? :p
11:40.55nevcairiel:P
11:41.07syerenJudging from Sunwell content upto now.
11:41.10syerenAnd on my Priest.
11:41.14syerenCOH, Renew, Gheal :p
11:41.27felesyastill more buttons to press :P
11:41.27syerenWell Nev, what else is hard?
11:41.36syerenReading those RAID INSTRUCTIONS FROM BIG WIGS !!!
11:41.37syeren:p
11:41.50nevcairielpvp isnt hard either
11:41.50syerenKalec = Click a Summoning Portal.
11:41.53Fisker-omg nevcairiel
11:41.55Fisker-I'M RAPING YOU
11:41.56syerenBrut = Run away when you're burned.
11:41.57Fisker-MAKE IT STOP
11:42.01syerenFelmyst = Do a little dance.
11:42.02Fisker-oh wait
11:42.03Fisker-no kicking!
11:42.05syerenTwins = Jump down.
11:42.10syerenM'uru = zzzzzz
11:42.14syerenKJ = Bubblez
11:42.43nevcairielYou sound like someone that got pushed through all the content, and never went into the learning curve, good job on that!
11:42.59syerenYeah, the learning curve on a fight like Brut is hard.
11:43.02syerenErmm, DPS, Heal.
11:43.05syerenNow taunt!
11:43.40nevcairielAs i said, you have no clue, i bet you went with a KJ raid, 24 people that know how it works, and now you feel all good and awesome
11:44.07syerenI actually went through learning, it's about as tedious as learning any other boss.
11:44.11syerenSomeone fucking up their simple raid roll.
11:44.12ZyndromeMurmur makes me gnash my teeth
11:44.13syeren*role.
11:44.17Zyndromeaint that easy
11:44.24ZyndromeI mean Muru :P
11:44.41syerenM'uru is just boring because if anyone dies in Phase 1 from going "LOL KICKED OOPS"
11:44.50syerenThey've just waisted my food and elixirs.
11:45.03syeren*wasted
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11:47.23syerenThe skill in raiding from my perspective comes from the officers / raid leaders who have to sit there and give a shit about retards fucking up their strats :p
11:49.47Fisker-it's Chompers
11:49.48Fisker-do die
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12:04.59CIA-44- koKR Update
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12:13.43CIA-4403daviesh * r77237 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
12:13.43CIA-44AtlasLoot:
12:13.43CIA-44- Implemented compatibility with Atlas 1.12
12:13.47Lukiansigh I dunno about agUF ace3
12:13.53Lukianit's using a lot of cpu time :/
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12:25.42ag`Lukian: compared to oUF maybe
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12:27.42ag`or what else are you comparing it to Lukian?
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12:35.13Lukianag`, hmm just in general
12:35.24LukianI'll show you a screenie
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12:37.24Lukiansee PM
12:37.30ag`okies
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12:37.40Lukianthat was from ~3 attempts on al'ar and I had the raid frames disabled after the first few pulls..
12:37.47Lukianso really only player frame :/
12:38.41ag`I've noticed something now
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12:38.51ag`it got a high when you just do /rl
12:38.59ag`it doesn't seem to be very high cpu/sec
12:39.07ag`so it's something initial
12:39.14nevcairielobviously during loading it uses more cpu to set everything up
12:39.18nevcairielall addons do that
12:39.19nevcairiel;)
12:39.33ag`well it seems to be something during loading
12:39.41ag`I'll look into it
12:40.20CIA-4403nemes * r77238 10NDurability/ (. NDurability.lua NDurability.toc embeds.xml): NDurability: use GetInventoryItemDurability instead of LibGratuity; thanks tekkub
12:40.39ag`hey nevcairiel, ever considered adding buff/debuff apply coloring to your action bar? :)
12:40.53ag`so like it's red if I have SW:P on my target
12:42.09nevcairielwill not happen :P
12:42.17Lukianag`, hmm in 25 man raids it really seems to kill my framerate :/
12:42.36Lukianag`, also, there's a bug creating the party frames when in you login in combat
12:43.17ag`what's the name of that addon that shows cpu time of methods and functions instead of just addons
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12:43.56Lukianwould that be devtools or something else?
12:44.18Chompersi see you Fisker-, you can't hide
12:44.28nevcairielag`: Expo
12:44.38ag`okies
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12:56.03CIA-4403alar 07Ace3 * r77239 10AlarModules/AlarShared/AlarShared-3.0/ (AlarWidgets-3.0.lua AlarWidgets-3.0.xml): AlarShared: typo fixed in AlarWidgets-3.0.xml, AceGUI loading fixed in AlarWidgets-3.0.lua
12:57.05profalbert(05:16:11 PM) Ackis: wow, hellgate or aoc?
12:57.06profalbert(05:16:48 PM) [Ammo]: msww
12:57.06profalbert(05:16:58 PM) [Ammo]: mad sex with wife
12:57.06profalbert(05:17:33 PM) Ackis: lol
12:57.06profalbert(05:18:01 PM) Ackis: but what will you do after those 2 minutes are up?
12:57.14profalbertwoops
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12:57.24Fisker-fucking win
12:57.28Kalrothhaha
12:58.05Kalrothmisspaste from the channel and quit before anyone finds out
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12:58.46CIA-4403alar * r77240 10QuestTranslator2/ (. MiniStub.lua QuestTranslator2.toc embeds.xml libs/ qt2.lua): QuestTranslator2 minimap icon is no longer clamped to minimap frame
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13:09.23BasementCatmm
13:10.06Gagoriannevcairiel: Is BT4 compatibility with DrDamage up to date now? Someone still reported "attempt to call method 'GetActionID' (a nil value)"
13:10.06GagorianSince you added it I thought I'd ask you before looking into it
13:10.06nevcairieli hope it works now :D
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13:10.31BasementCatso i finally switced to bt4
13:10.39BasementCati was soooo confused with the keybindings
13:10.40BasementCatlol
13:10.42Gagoriannevcairiel: ok!
13:17.20ag`Lukian: it's something with the castbar module
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13:25.51CIA-4403gagorian * r77241 10DrDamage/ (Data/Hunter.lua Data/Priest.lua Melee.lua):
13:25.51CIA-44DrDamage:
13:25.52CIA-44- Fixed cuffs of absolution properly adding set bonus (item ID was typod)
13:25.52CIA-44- Added Thrill of the hunt mana cost reduction into DPM calcs
13:28.36Lukianag`, goodo!
13:28.48ag`No wait, it isn't
13:28.56Lukiancombat text module?
13:28.57ag`I think it's something completely diffent going on here
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13:36.28CIA-4403ananhaid * r77242 10PitBull/Aura/Core.lua:
13:36.28CIA-44PitBull
13:36.28CIA-44- zhCN update.
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13:44.59CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77243 10HotCandy/HotCandy.lua: HotCandy: add a custom sort function to the bar group to always sort properly
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13:49.35ag`ok Lukian, I figured out the high number, it's getting blamed for a lot of CPU usage because it starts with the letter "A"
13:49.59LukianI use no-ext
13:50.43ag`So do I, the problem is still there
13:51.33ag`renamed aguf to xaguf and everything got blamed on buttonfacade instead on login
13:51.53ag`and that's with the Ace3 libs disembedded
13:51.54Lukianhah, interesting
13:52.51ag`bottom of line is
13:53.05ag`if you want to check the performance of an addon run it with nothing else enabled
13:53.45Lukianhmm fair enough, it does seem to use a fair amount of cpu in combat though (ie. noticable game/ui lag)
13:53.49Lukianat least in 25mans
13:55.04ag`that is something I'd need to check with expo
13:58.27CIA-4403hegarol * r77244 10AtlasLoot/ (Core/Sets.lua Documentation/Release Notes.txt):
13:58.27CIA-44AtlasLoot:
13:58.27CIA-44- Arena season 4 updates
13:59.03CIA-4403hegarol * r77245 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua:
13:59.03CIA-44AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
13:59.04CIA-44- first part of Arena season 4 update
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14:03.20sacaraschas atlas loot been updated with Ahune's stuff yet?
14:05.45Gngsksacarasc, http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/search?q=atlasloot&start=0&scoring=d&
14:06.58ag`Lukian: I am in a 40 man raid now, and aguf seems to be using less CPU than Grid
14:07.15Lukianyeah that's why I don't use grid :p
14:07.17Lukianhaha
14:07.35ag`haven't compared it to anything else yet tho
14:07.50ag`but I guess it would be a no contest against pitbull too :P
14:08.44Groktarhears ag is welsh.
14:09.00ag`also Lukian, you don't play normally with CPU monitoring turned on do you?
14:09.14ag`Groktar: why would you guess that? :P
14:09.33Groktarjust saying
14:09.37Groktarthat's the rumor
14:09.54ag`what rumor lol
14:10.03ag`I'll start a new one
14:10.09ag`ag is danish
14:12.48ag`Lukian: if you play with CPU monitoring on it's no wonder you're getting noticable game/ui lag
14:13.02ramozag`: thats a lie - i heard he was german!
14:13.06ramoz(!)
14:13.33ag`something you heard from someone or heard from yourself? :P
14:14.19Lukianag`, chuckle, yeah :)
14:14.19Lukianthat's a good point
14:14.34Megalon.ag = antigua and barbuda
14:14.37Megalongottcha!
14:14.51ag`it increases the cpu usage of everything by a million
14:15.00ag`it's not meant to be turned on :P
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14:44.26Groktardevours your souls
14:44.43Ozguliresists
14:44.57Ozgulirather, your Soul DF
14:45.02Stanzillalicks you.
14:45.04Ozgulifking laptop kb
14:45.16OzguliYour soul devour fails - Oz is immune
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15:45.30Kaeltenanyone able to read this ?
15:45.32Kaelten"Quest-TR, görevlerinizi Türkçe olarak yapmanızı sağlayan bir oyun eklentisi. Kurulumun hemen ardından minimap’in yanına eklenen butona tıkladığınızda eğer o quest veritabanında mevcutsa Türkçe’ye çeviriyor. "
15:45.39OlisonYes
15:45.39profalber1yep
15:45.48OlisonI mean, yes but not understand
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15:45.53Kaeltenlol
15:45.56Olison:P
15:46.00Kaeltenanyone able to tanslate that?
15:46.06Kaeltentranslate*
15:46.36Kaeltenor at least tell me what language it is?
15:47.57Kaeltengoogle thinks it turkish
15:48.36profalbertlooks like it. but it lacks "ü"s imho
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16:00.23nevcairiel~help babelfish
16:00.56nevcairielno dice on turkish :P
16:01.25Zyndrometry swahili :<
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16:19.13Pkekyo|anyone got any idea why autobar decided to go tits up retarded all of a sudden and only show the proffession button?
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16:21.16cncfanaticsit wants you to stop using it
16:21.19cncfanaticsPkekyo|:
16:21.56Pkekyo|go awai :<
16:24.10ktwohm.. anyone knows if its possible to massdispell without having to position the circle  (maybe targetting just anyone or massdispell around my char)?
16:24.30Gngskimpossible
16:24.51cladhairecurrently yes
16:24.59cladhaireping the minimap at your current location via macro
16:24.59Gngskminimap?
16:25.09Gngskthat's being removed though!
16:25.16cladhaireyes
16:25.20cladhairethats why i said currently
16:25.22thulutorrent is almost reason enough NOT to install osx on my hackintosh
16:25.23cladhairei wouldn't count on it
16:25.31thulit is so much better than azereus that it hurts
16:25.51cladhairethul: uhh
16:25.52Gngskazureus doesn't exist anymore
16:25.56cladhaire~google utorrent mac os x
16:26.08thulcladhaire: I have done, they all talk about wanting to make one that works
16:26.19thulbut last i checked (30 days ago or so) it did not exist
16:26.23cladhairedarwine
16:26.26cladhaireetc
16:26.27thulcladhaire: you know what i mean, vuze or what ever they call it these days
16:26.31dylanmTransmission works pretty well now.
16:26.33thulcladhaire: yeha, beacause that is practical.. :-P
16:26.35Olisoncladhaire: Transmission
16:26.41cladhaire<PROTECTED>
16:26.47cladhairei use transmission loyally
16:26.47ktwohmm.. u know the macro command?
16:26.50cladhairebecause its the best
16:26.56cladhairei also use aria2c
16:27.00thulI tried transmission, but it did not seem to like my network restrictions at all
16:27.25thulI just want to have stuff that works :-( but i also suspect that the lack of terminal.app will chase me away from windows once again, so I should just burn my kalyway iso right away
16:29.57CIA-4403apoco * r77246 10RBM/Core.lua: RBM: Hotfix - Core.lua:633: attempt to concatenate field 'hex' (a nil value) If it cant find the hex value it wont attempt to color the name.
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16:56.22Fisker-And now for the weather
16:56.23Fisker-Ollie?
16:56.27Fisker-ITS RAINING SIDEWAYS
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16:59.41thulthere are a few things i like in windows (easier solutions to a few things etc, utorrent and a few other programs) and lots of things I like in osx
17:00.02Fisker-blasphemer
17:00.20thulhaha, what?
17:00.27Fisker-indeed
17:00.36Fisker-sets fire to thul's nationalflag
17:01.06thulhaha, I'll just draw a cartoon :-P
17:01.18Fisker-i'll boycot your wares
17:01.32thulOH NOES, A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY BOYCOT USSSSSS
17:01.33thul:-P
17:01.50Fisker-<-not third world country
17:02.02thulpfft, of course you are.
17:02.34nevcairieli agree, dk definately
17:02.34thulso, you bunch of all knowers, are there _any_ good ssh-clients out there? for windows? putty is just irritating when you are used to aterm and terminal.app
17:02.47|Kev|what's the problem with putty?
17:02.48nevcairielwhats so irritating about putty?
17:03.00thulwell, it is ugly, first of all :-P
17:03.02|Kev|you could just get ssh+aterm, or such :)
17:03.04|Kev|ugly?
17:03.11thulyes, ugly :-(
17:03.12|Kev|it's a terminal - it's text in a window :p
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17:03.15nevcairielits a freaking console window
17:03.19nevcairielwhat do you expect?
17:03.20thulI want it to be transparent :-(
17:03.21thulor, semi-transparent actually
17:03.27thullike my terminal.app windows :-D
17:03.27nevcairielblame windows
17:03.29nevcairielnot putty
17:03.30thulI do
17:03.45nevcairielor rather, get a good gfx driver that can make windows transparent
17:03.48CIA-4403seppyk * r77247 10HeadCount/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
17:03.48CIA-44HeadCount:
17:03.48CIA-44- Added loot management feature to change looter.
17:03.48CIA-44- Added loot management feature to change loot source.
17:03.51nevcairielhugs his nvidia desktop manager
17:04.20thulwell, I do have that nvidia thing
17:04.20thulbut it just is not the same :-(
17:04.28thuli feel that it is a bit sluggish, but that just might be my system
17:04.41Fisker-again thul
17:04.44Fisker-BLASPHEMER
17:04.46Fisker-putty = win
17:04.51thulFisker-: pfft :-P
17:05.26|Kev|I thought putty would do translucency
17:05.36|Kev|although I don't use windows much, it's always putty I go for when I do
17:05.45Fisker-windows does transparency
17:05.52Fisker-nevcairiel is just jealous that windows is so awesome
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17:07.23thulwhat about BeOS with wow-support? :-P
17:07.42Fisker-your mother
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17:30.51KazieSo i was wondering.. is it possible to make a macro /cast seal of command but only do so if this is NOT already applied?
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17:31.25Arrowmasterno
17:31.46cncfanaticsKazie: not since TBC got released
17:31.53KazieAuw :(
17:32.02Kaziei was affraid you'd say that :)
17:32.36KazieSo there's really no way to make some sort of condition so it won't cast it when it's applied?
17:32.47cncfanaticsno
17:32.49cncfanaticsblizz killed that
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17:41.35RaydenUnitorch catching is impossible
17:42.51RaydenUniis that not a buff?
17:42.56RaydenUnioh just automatically cast?
17:43.07RaydenUniyou can make it so when you press a button it will cast if not applied
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17:47.04silentiumpaladin seals are self buff spells
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18:13.21Pkekyo|a 10-year-old boy held an airsoft gun to the head of a 6-year-old, demanding his Pokemon cards.
18:13.21Pkekyo|bwahahahah
18:13.29Pkekyo|I miss Pokémon cards :p
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18:22.09GnarfozFunkeh`: does a post-2.4 combat log contain sufficient information to create a bigwigs bossmod module out of it? (compared to, say, transcriptor? or is there a way to convert one format into the other?)
18:32.54Gnarfozor anyone else who can answer that ;)
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18:38.17CIA-44Yata:
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18:53.29ShadowedGnarfoz: I'd imagine it depends on the fight, but Transcriptor contains information like yells/raid warnings/boss retargeting which the combat log doesn't have
18:53.45Gnarfozah.
18:53.46Gnarfozk
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19:12.40Lukianwhat's the lightest weight "floating" combat text addon ?:p
19:12.49cncfanaticsblizz
19:12.59Lukianhaha, other than blizz
19:13.05durcyni'd have to say msbt
19:13.06cncfanaticscustom coded
19:13.15Lukian"they are all terrible" is probably an acceptable answer
19:13.26Lukiandurcyn, hmm I don't believe I've actually tried that yet, I probably should
19:13.47durcynin my experience it's considerably less resource-intensive than sct or parrot
19:17.13Lukiandurcyn, hmm, where do I get 5.2.8 from?
19:17.21Lukianah found it
19:18.13durcynshould all be on wowi
19:18.27Lukianyeah I didn't know there was a beta tab
19:18.31LukianI hardly use that website XD
19:20.23Fisker-slaps Lukian around a bit with a large trout
19:20.43Lukianwho's the Chatter author again?
19:20.59pastamancerAntiarc
19:21.10LukianAntiarc, Arrowmaster, Chatter and MultiTips conflict
19:21.16pastamanceralthough I hear hs's super busy
19:21.22pastamancererr, he's super busy
19:21.43Arrowmasterwhat does multitips do?
19:22.07Lukianallows you to have multiple tooltips open at once basically
19:22.09durcynmultiple item tooltips, same as Links
19:22.32durcynsecond most popular code duplication effort on the svn after cancelling blessing of salvation, it seems
19:22.43Arrowmasterhow do they conflict?
19:23.41Lukiana) url links don't work b) I don't remember, although there's some funky behaviour with mousing over links (including grouploot tooltips)
19:23.55Lukianthe latter is probably a multitips bug
19:24.38Arrowmasterhow do the url links not work? they just do nothing when clicked?
19:24.50ramoz<PROTECTED>
19:24.56Arrowmasterlife
19:24.57Lukianyeah, I think they might give an lua error, let me check bugsack
19:26.19ArrowmasterLukian: the url one is a multitips bug, tell the author to learn to fucking do proper hooks
19:26.38Lukianso is Links a better version of multitips?
19:26.43Arrowmasterno clue
19:26.44LukianI'm happy to use something else
19:26.51Lukianpokes durcyn
19:26.54durcyni'm not sure it sucks any less
19:26.57Arrowmasterjerry seems to know how to hook though
19:27.02durcynbut it could well suck differently
19:27.32Lukianlol I just found this error
19:27.34Lukian"Error: Original call failed after running hooks for:  ChatFrame_OnHyperlinkShow :\n ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink(): Unknown link type(tail call): ?:\n<string>:\"*:OnHyperlinkClick\":1: in function <[string \"*:OnHyperlinkClick\"]:1>\n:\n(tail call): ?:\nStubby-52\\Stubby.lua:380: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\Stubby\\Stubby.lua:324>\n(tail call): ?:\n<string>:\"*:OnHyperlinkClick\":1: in function <[string \"*:OnHyperlinkClick\"]:
19:27.34Lukian1>\n\n  ---"
19:28.24Arrowmasteryeah multitips only calls the original hooked function if its a player link, shift is held, or ctrl is held
19:29.08Lukianah, that explains the funky behaviour with shift making group loot tooltips show
19:29.13Arrowmasterotherwise it does its own shit and calls tooltip:SetHyperlink() directly
19:30.03Arrowmasterthe smart thing would have been to whitelist the types of links to handle and pass everything else back to the original function
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19:32.09LukianOk, using Links now
19:32.16Lukiansomeone should *cough* outdate MultiTips
19:32.58Lukian(URL clicking just worked in a quick test with links, as did multiple tooltips, so I'm happy thus far)
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19:49.52aestilany mind linking a basic tanking spec for a 67 paladin?
19:49.58aestiljust for tanking regular instances
19:50.15Avrysaestil - I can whip one up, sec :p
19:51.21aestilmy paladin was the first character i created many a time ago
19:51.34aestilgot bored with it once, then got bored with it again in TBC
19:51.38aestilits been 67 forever.
19:51.47aestilbut i need it now to tank something for my wife's lowbie priest
19:52.15Avryshttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZV0tIh0dTgqtV0x
19:53.18aestilty
19:53.25Avrysnp
19:53.27aestilafter this, pick up?
19:53.35aestilon more point in recokoning?
19:53.38Avrysnah
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19:53.40AvrysPrecision
19:54.07Avrys4/5 reckoning is like 90% as effective as 5/5, uptime wise, single target IIRC
19:54.14aestilok.
19:54.16aestilcool.
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19:57.08Avrysthat build + 3/3 Precision is what I use for almost everything
19:57.27RaydenUniyay
19:57.30RaydenUnifinally exalted with CE
19:57.35RaydenUnimy first real exalted faction
20:00.44Fisker-Say exalted one more time RaydenUni
20:00.50Fisker-i dare you, i double dare you motherfucker
20:02.23VonhintenHOME`I don't think more pally tanks even take Reckoning anymore
20:02.27VonhintenHOME`more=most
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20:19.54AvrysNeoTron around?
20:20.44AvrysVonhintenHOME` - Pally tanks who want better single target threat do =/
20:20.54Avrysrthats good
20:20.57Avryswoops
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20:44.31thulwow up running, and MAN is it good to be back with real resolution
20:45.58RaydenUniheals get extra aggro from nightbane?
20:47.07Hjalte*Extra* aggro?
20:47.34VonhintenHOME`no, they don't.. but every flight phase is an agro reset
20:47.39VonhintenHOME`so healers have to be careful
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20:58.00RaydenUnipeople are saying healing is extra threat in that fight...
20:58.10Ozguliwhat fight?
20:59.19VonhintenHOME`Our healers have never had a problem on Nightbane in the past
20:59.41RaydenUniwe always lose people
20:59.44RaydenUninot sure why
20:59.51RaydenUnibut i joined recently
20:59.54VonhintenHOME`Are they healing as Nightbane lands?
20:59.55RaydenUniso they are doing it the way they always do it
21:00.23VonhintenHOME`You guys should have the skeletons dead and be moving into positions by the time Nightbane lands
21:00.33VonhintenHOME`No one should do anything that generates agro during that time
21:00.50VonhintenHOME`Not even shifting druid forms
21:01.02RaydenUnithe skeletons kill us
21:01.14RaydenUnishifting druid forms is aggro? wtf?
21:01.22VonhintenHOME`if they're killing you, you need more cleansing and heals
21:02.00Ozguliuhh... NIGHTBANE?
21:02.55OzguliI got killed there as priest, but just because my healing threat > usual tank threat... and I had like 7k hp >_>
21:03.22RaydenUnii dunno
21:03.28RaydenUnithey usually march the skels north and then south
21:03.32RaydenUniis that a traditional tactic?
21:03.38VonhintenHOME`lolwut
21:03.54RaydenUnior just sit still and aoe them?
21:03.59Matrix110|oh AMD/ATI managed to score Blizzard support
21:04.14VonhintenHOME`not where I'm from... we have everyone group up, and kill them one at a time
21:04.18Matrix110|means SC2 coupon with new graphic cards orso :D
21:04.24aestilbesides the armory, is there a site that gives you suggestions for easy gear upgrades?
21:04.27Matrix110|to bad Nvidia is better
21:04.48Matrix110|aestil armorylite does it in a better way iirc
21:05.17VonhintenHOME`Rayden if people move too far away during skeletons, nightbane will do a really nasty thing to you
21:05.26RaydenUniarmorylite has suggestions?
21:05.52Matrix110|not sure
21:05.54Matrix110|some site had them
21:05.55aestilit doesn't appear to.
21:06.33VonhintenHOME`Rayden, don't AOE unless you have a pally tank with good threat... the skeletons will own your clothies if they do that
21:06.38VonhintenHOME`single target kill them
21:06.47RaydenUnimaybe that's why
21:06.59Matrix110|it supplied wowhead links with higher ilvl items for your class
21:07.01aestilRaydenUni: you talking about felymist?
21:07.08RaydenUnihuh?
21:07.17aestilthe skelletons?
21:07.20RaydenUninightbane
21:07.29aestiloh, nevermind then
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21:07.44RaydenUnithe one time i ran with my new guild we lost a few people on the skels
21:07.48RaydenUniwas trying to figure out why
21:08.00Ozguliprayer of mending wins there
21:08.44aestilits strange to me that i still see guilds recruiting for kara/gruul/mag
21:09.05Ozgulisome people don't have the skill to progress furthe
21:09.18sacarascor the time
21:09.26VonhintenHOME`There's new people and new guilds every day
21:09.27Ozgulior they just don't take the game seriously, as a hobby like any other
21:09.34aestilat 10.5 hours a week we are at etwins
21:09.54aestilwhich means you don't have to poopsock to progress.
21:10.45aestilbut i wasn't dissing people
21:10.45VonhintenHOME`What do you do when someone in your raid sucks?
21:10.45aestili was just saying, it amazes me.
21:10.45aestildepends on why/how they suck.
21:10.45sacarascVonhintenHOME`: my raid leader let me still go
21:10.50aestilmy guild is unique in that we bring in people that aren't great players yet, but have great attitudes and we give them a lot of oppertunities to l2play
21:10.52VonhintenHOME`say they just plain suck at wow :)
21:11.11aestilplain suck at wow = not usually invited to guild, or at least, not on progression raids.
21:11.28VonhintenHOME`right, that's why you move forward
21:11.32VonhintenHOME`and that's why other guilds don't
21:11.40aestilbe.imba.hu doesn't work for characters under 70
21:11.49Ozguliaestil I've seen guilds fall because they do that too much... The people who have skill want to continue but the nublets are slowing the progress
21:12.04aestilOzguli: we have an 'offnight' raider group
21:12.10aestilthats were people go to l2play
21:12.18OzguliOh...
21:12.20aestil'progression' raid is a different group.
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21:12.25aestiland its where you graduate
21:12.28aestilits like 2 guilds in one
21:12.59aestilthe 'b team' is happy, because 1 - 3 progression raiders go on their raids usually, and they get our strategies, and the help from leadership on mats for various things
21:13.13aestilthey are 'behind' us.  they clear up to RoS atm
21:13.40aestilanyways, there is no 'smart' gear suggester out there?
21:13.55aestilarmory is stupid, it suggests like the best gear available in the game, for my lowbie paladin
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21:15.25Elsiaheya
21:15.45Ozguliaestil it sometimes does that due to some odd thing I know nothing about
21:16.22Matrix110|cant find the damn page i used a while back
21:16.57Ozgulisomeone highlight me, need to get the wireless phones on
21:17.39StanzillaOzguli: u smell
21:17.56Ozguliapparently I need new cables...
21:18.45Elsiaanyone got some detailed combat logs from the 2.4.3 ptr?
21:19.03Matrix110|found it
21:19.07Matrix110|it was armory light
21:19.08Matrix110|http://www.armory-light.com/eu/Kazzak/Erestor/
21:19.10Matrix110|but another one
21:19.10Matrix110|:D
21:20.00Matrix110|lul
21:20.10Matrix110|nvm
21:20.11Matrix110|that
21:20.12Matrix110|:D
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21:21.03Matrix110|on wowhead you might need to add 1 or 2 filters
21:21.09Matrix110|to make the results useful though
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21:21.20Matrix110|for example if you search for mage cloaks you get all def cloaks aswell
21:22.02aestilyeah, this is pretty good.  thanks.
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21:29.05thulis it possible to buy AOC online?
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21:37.09Zyndromefuck Sunwell
21:37.18Zyndromerename it to Vanquisher Plateau
21:37.32nevcairiellol
21:37.44nevcairielwe didnt have one vanq for 2 weeks now
21:37.46nevcairielyou stole em!
21:38.23Zyndromewe had 3x vanq on Felmyst and 4x Vanq on twins
21:38.25Zyndromethis evening
21:38.28Zyndromereally, fuck it
21:38.38ag`all your base your base
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21:39.41aestilis there a dogtag for weapon speed?
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21:41.27Zyndromeand here we wipe for 2 hours on Felmyst and then oneshot Twins ... dunno if one should laugh or cry :<
21:44.37ulicmaybe I'm just no thinking straight today, but I can't seem to figure out how to include a clickable link on the official wow forums, anyone know.  I tried html tags & [url] & [link]
21:45.22Matrix110|fuck T6 drops
21:45.35Matrix110|rather have 2xt6 2x random instead of this crap
21:45.48Matrix110|nobody needs a fucking T6 part
21:45.55Matrix110|but everyone needs random items
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21:46.20ThiefMaster3x t6 + 3x random :p
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21:49.19aestilwhy is auto shot locked out sometimes?
21:50.05Arrowmasterbug
21:50.11Arrowmasterwith your macro
21:50.26aestilmy macro is /cast kill command /cast steady shot
21:50.55Arrowmasteryeah that will do it
21:51.45aestilwhat should my macro be?
21:52.03Arrowmasternot sure
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21:52.19Arrowmasteryou need to put a condition on the kill command i think but i dont know what
21:52.23Arrowmastercheck the hunter forums
21:53.10Elsiathat bug should be fixed with 2.4.3 if the patch notes are right
21:53.45Elsiahappens if you cast an instant right after steady shot, such as kill command or arcane in 2.4.2
21:54.00Pkekyo|what torrent client should I use?
21:54.04aestilutorrent
21:54.34Pkekyo|no
21:54.41thulsometimes I hate logitech :-P
21:54.42Pkekyo|µtorrent has become poopoo as of late
21:54.43Arrowmastertheres no good windows torrent clients left
21:54.58Pkekyo|Arrowmaster: there's got to be ONE decent one
21:55.05Cheadsuse an old utorrent
21:55.15Elsiaazureus?
21:55.29Arrowmasterazureus is dead, its now vuse
21:55.51Pkekyo|err?
21:55.53thulutorrent > *
21:56.04SunTsu.o0( rtorrent )
21:56.20Pkekyo|thul: no, not anymore
21:56.45Pkekyo|the client is becoming increasingly unstable, and them taking RIAA/MPAA's penor up the back doesn't exactly benefit them either
21:58.23Arrowmasteryeah i wouldnt ever use a client from bittorrent.com either since they sold out
21:58.38vithosArrowmaster: vuze is kinda just a plugin though isn't it?
21:58.42Arrowmasterno
21:59.25vithosaestil: /cast [target=pettarget,harm] kill command
21:59.42Arrowmasteralthough im still really confused over it too because sourceforge still lists it as a GPL project, but i didnt think the vuse part was opensource
21:59.45vithosor exists instead of harm, either works
21:59.54thulPkekyo|: i like it, it works, it works good and it is light :-P
22:00.10Pkekyo|thul: not anymore
22:00.58vithosArrowmaster: so when you disable vuze it keeps running anyway or what? i don't know much about it
22:01.08vithosi just remember turning it off
22:01.20Arrowmasteryou cant disable vuze afaik
22:01.26Arrowmasteryou can use the 'classic' view
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22:05.50vithoshere they claim it's just a different UI, and that removing the vuze code would be no different from just using the classic view http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Azureus_2_/_3_and_Vuze
22:06.23vithosand they say vuze is gpl
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22:12.31Ackisanyone know off the top of their head how many shadowcloth are needed for the full set?
22:13.10nevcairielfrozen shadoweave?
22:13.11nevcairiel26
22:14.20aestilhey, vithos, thank you.
22:14.29vithosnp
22:14.31aestilso it should be what you just posted, and then /cast steady shot?
22:14.49vithosthat would be the 3:2 macro
22:14.58vithoswhich personally doesn't work
22:15.29vithosit requires a specific bow speed and amount of haste, and lots of magic.
22:15.32aestili just want a macro which fires a steady shot with kill command
22:15.37Ackisty nevcairiel
22:15.38aestili'm only lvl 66 atm
22:15.41vithosoh, if you're just manually timing the shots then yeah
22:15.57aestilsweet.  ty
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22:17.22CIA-4403ascalia * r77251 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua:
22:17.22CIA-44AtlasLoot_WorldLoot:
22:17.22CIA-44- Skettis loot fixes
22:19.54vithosaestil: this is what i actually use in raids, but i spam the key http://pastey.net/89897 (1:1.x rotation) and i switch to 1:1 to conserve mana http://pastey.net/89898
22:20.19CIA-4403shamino * r77252 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell-enUS.lua:
22:20.19CIA-44EnchantingSell:
22:20.19CIA-44- added Deathfrost to default database
22:21.55aestilis somewhere in there the part where it makes it not spam text on the screen like 'that action is not ready yet'
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22:55.12digmousegmorning guys
22:55.23Gnarfozmorning digmouse
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22:59.18GnarfozNeoTron: right-clicking the magictargets fubar icon gives me: both a blizzard-ui-options thingy (the new stuff that's "in") and an empty rockconfig window. whatup with dat? :>
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23:10.55Tinyboomanyone got an idea on why my quest tracker goes wacky and move to the lower left corner every time i enter combat? using lightheaded/beql/tourguide, only ones that has anything to do with questing....
23:12.40Tinyboomand as soon as i leave combat it moves back again.
23:13.09DARKGuymy guess is that it could be beql or tourguide messing up
23:13.14DARKGuybut I don't use them so I have no idea
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23:18.55CIA-4403DARKGuy * r77253 10VisualMail/VisualMail.lua:
23:18.55CIA-44VisualMail:
23:18.55CIA-44* Fixed the mail icon not appearing over other frames when strata isn't BACKGROUND
23:27.51CIA-4403sayclub * r77254 10Bartender4/locale/koKR.lua:
23:27.51CIA-44Bartender4:
23:27.51CIA-44- koKR Update
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