IRC log for #wowace on 20080619

00:00.21Funkeh`it works fine if you boot vent before wow
00:00.43Arrowmasterhave you tested it a lot?
00:00.50Funkeh`infact, i thin that was in the patch notes
00:00.54p3limactually im using teamspeak
00:01.05Funkeh`whatever you're using
00:01.08p3limbut still the speex codec
00:01.13Arrowmasterprobably effects anything using the speex codec
00:01.28Arrowmasterwonder if directsound vs wave has anything to do with it
00:01.33p3limand I never run ts before wow
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00:03.59stew_ahey, don't suppose anyone knows of a java class/whatever that behaves rather like WoW's ScrollingMessageFrame widget? i've been trying to design one but failing miserably :-(
00:04.38DashkalJEditorPane can be abused for the purpose
00:06.11DashkalJust need a lil code around the actual add to check if the scrollbar is at the bottom and set it to the bottom again after adding the text if so
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00:09.58Arrowmasterckknight: i thought you were converting cartographer2 over completely to LibGuildPossitions, seems it still sends whisper replys to old style guild queries
00:11.30p3limSeems like MiniMapTracking is "invisible"
00:11.42p3limI scroll on it but the minimap behind gets the scroll
00:12.56breserArrowmaster: I believe he is but he left support for the old method in for a limited time.
00:14.29stew_aDashkal: it seems like a good idea but doesnt seem to want to display html which i need for formatting the messages
00:14.32Arrowmasteryeah for a while it did both but now it doesnt send the old style guild queries anymore, but its still responding to them
00:15.16Dashkalstew_a: editorPane.setContentType("text/html");
00:17.43stew_aactually that looks as if it could be beaten around with a small mallet to fit the purposes, thanks :-)
00:18.23Dashkalnp
00:19.16DashkalBe warned that it doesn't fully support HTML.  It's a weak subset but it's enough for simple things.
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00:25.10CIA-4403durcyn * r77052 10Casualty/: Casualty: attempt to fix externals, where'd AceLocale go?
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00:32.40p3limhere is my function: http://pastey.net/89701
00:32.51p3limgot an issue, when i scroll the GameTooltip hides
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00:46.40p3limstrange
00:47.06p3limnormally SetOwner is set in the OnEnter function
00:53.26CIA-4403durcyn * r77053 10Casualty/ (. Casualty.lua embeds.xml): Casualty: it might help if I actually commit embeds.xml
00:55.04CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77054 10Baldrick/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
00:55.04CIA-44Baldrick:
00:55.04CIA-44- Works :)
00:57.57breserWTH is Baldrick?
00:58.05Ackiswow 1 shot muru
01:00.53Ackisping antiarc
01:04.38NeoTronAckis: first time there? ;-)
01:04.41NeoTronimpressive!
01:04.50NeoTronthat said, didnt' seem like it took you too long to get muru down
01:06.31CIA-4403durcyn * r77055 10Casualty/ (. embeds.xml): Casualty: add missing AceGUI-3.0 dep for AceConfigDialog
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01:11.57CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77056 10MiniPet/ (MiniPet.lua localisation.lua):
01:11.57CIA-44MiniPet:
01:11.57CIA-44- Some string changes
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01:22.48AckisNeoTron no :P
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01:55.39p3limis there a lib to track buffs?
01:55.42p3limon self
01:59.06p3limneed to track down when a buff gets applied to me
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02:01.52CIA-4403ckknight * r77057 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Events.lua LibDogTag-3.0.lua): LibDogTag-3.0 - Change the lazy fontstring updating a bit to be a bit more efficient.
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02:07.02CIA-4403sayclub * r77058 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/localization.lua:
02:07.02CIA-44Bang!_Libram_Swap:
02:07.02CIA-44- Added koKR localization
02:13.20Ackiswhy does this: /script for i=1,10,1 do SendChatMessage("HAI PRINCESS","WHISPER",nil,"Kyne") end make raiding so much fun?
02:19.18Diaohmm
02:19.28Diaowhy does violation delete people who aren't in the group
02:19.29Diaowhen they leave
02:26.37Dark_Elfhttp://www.worldofwar.net/n/414721/breaking-news-ptr-patch-notes
02:26.58ulicnot breaking any more, but it was about 6 hours ago
02:29.47Dark_Elfyeah looks like it will be a good patch
02:31.41Zyndromeoh my
02:31.48Zyndromechanges to Cheat Death
02:32.38Zyndromerogues who rely solely on that will not be happy
02:33.14Diaoi'm so happy about that
02:33.18Diaono more cheese pve t6 rogues
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02:33.27Diaowith as much survivability as full s3 rogues
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02:33.48Diaothe CoS being incorporated into CoE is amazing
02:34.04Diaojust wish they added holy and nature into it
02:34.16NefarionDiao: Meh
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02:34.37NefarionIn the end it really means one less Warlock applying it. I guess that is one more Doom that goes up, so a little more DPS though.
02:34.50NefarionAnd it makes it viable in smaller-sized raids
02:34.52kenlyricdoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooms
02:35.16kenlyric"and it makes it viable in smaller-sized raids" key point
02:35.20Zyndrome"* The Eredar Twins will now award the same items regardless of which order they are killed in."
02:35.21ZyndromeD:!
02:35.22NefarionWith no solid information in the wiki page, I'll ask here: does support for ButtonFacade need to be added to the action bar addons themselves?
02:35.40Diaoyes
02:35.48NefarionWas that a yes to me?
02:35.54Diaoyes to you Nefarion
02:35.56ulicyes
02:36.13NefarionShit. Does anyone know if Tuller mentioned it for Bongos3?
02:36.31Diaodidn't he stop dev on bongos3?
02:36.39Nefarion...?
02:36.55NeoTronsweet. kilrogg US has no npc's on eastern kindom
02:37.22NefarionSure the server didn't crash from under you?
02:37.25NefarionI've heard of people staying on through a crash, in rare cases
02:37.36NeoTronI just got on
02:37.39StanzillaNefarion: http://files.wowace.com/Bongos3_ButtonFacade/ or better: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13851
02:37.40NeoTronppl said it had been crashing
02:38.08DiaoNefarion: I thought Tuller had stopped development on Bongos3 as he is now working on Dominos?
02:38.27NefarionAh, so Bongos is no more? Thanks Stanzilla.
02:38.36CIA-4403parnic * r77059 10IceHUD/ (13 files in 2 dirs):
02:38.36CIA-44IceHUD:
02:38.36CIA-44- fixed text display for non-dogtag strings
02:38.38DiaoIt's not that it's no more.. just that he isn't working on it anymore
02:38.49NefarionYeah I haven't been real active on the 'net lately, so I didn't see
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02:40.25NefarionSo, is anyone using Dominos here? Is it stable?
02:40.44p3limusin COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, trying to use this event: SPELL_AURA_APPLIED
02:40.53p3limbut would that be the right event for a trinket proc buff?
02:41.02breserShould be.
02:41.13NefarionIf it applies a buff, then I'm pretty sure it would be
02:41.16p3limcause i cant seem to get it to work
02:41.17Diaopersonally, I use bartender4, but afaik dominos is perfectly usable
02:41.22NefarionOr, logically it should
02:42.00NefarionDiao: Yeah I was stuck on BT until I tried Bongos. Tuller pays attention to all the little details that make a mod good.
02:42.02p3limusing this spell: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45057
02:42.10p3limas arg9
02:42.27Nefarionp3lim: Test it?
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02:42.32p3limi have
02:42.34p3limeven with prints
02:42.52Arrowmasterexcept tuller didnt like what he did with bongos3 and thats why hes making a new mod
02:42.54p3limnever see the event run at all, even when trying to add normal buffs like thorns
02:43.36Arrowmastercheck that it actually fires an event
02:43.40Nefarionp3lim: Check the spelling on your events, your arg checks, and your event callback.
02:43.49p3limdone done and done
02:43.53p3limsec
02:43.58p3limgonna try something
02:44.00Arrowmasteras in make a combatlog of you using the trinket
02:44.03NefarionThe function doesn't fire at all, even with normal buffs?
02:44.20NefarionIt's gotta be a pre-event issue. Triple check the spelling and function.
02:44.20p3limmhm
02:44.37NefarionMake sure you registered events to the right frame
02:44.58p3limmaybe SPELL_AURA_APPLIED is not in the UNFILTERED event?
02:46.05Silverstormit definitely us
02:46.06Silverstormis*
02:46.27Funkeh`if you're trinket doesn't register in the comba log just use player auras changed
02:46.39p3limi can see it in my combat log
02:46.48Funkeh`then what's the problem
02:47.05Arrowmasterlike i said, /combatlog and use it then /combatlog
02:47.17Funkeh`indeed
02:47.54durcynp3lim: what checks are you doing on the event
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02:48.39p3limarg3 and arg9 (sourceGUID and spellID)
02:50.17Funkeh`lol
02:50.29Funkeh`i bet you have set your sourceid as nil because you didn't delay it
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02:50.41Funkeh`your guid sin't available until after player logiin
02:51.16Funkeh`maybe i should sleep soon fucking 4am
02:51.17Fisker-bawwww
02:51.32ZyndromeThu Jun 19 04:49:47 2008
02:51.45Zyndromeand I just woke up -_-
02:51.52Fisker-diablo3tiems
02:51.57Funkeh`that's what time i woke up yesterday
02:52.03Funkeh`so you can imagine how wasted i am
02:52.25Zyndromeand I fell asleep around 18:00 and missed out a raid :<
02:52.34Funkeh`fail
02:53.48ZyndromeKalecgos and Brutallus didn't drop anything I wanted anyways... except tokens, but need to slow down on that dee kay pee spending
02:53.58Ackis22 slot bags for 1200g each?
02:54.23p3limwth where did the combatlog file go?
02:54.37ArrowmasterLogs dir
02:54.38p3limnvm
02:54.40Arrowmasteryou have to logout first
02:55.34p3limah there we go, found the root of the problem
02:55.58p3limi checked for sourceGUID before the event
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02:59.23Funkeh`i'm here without you seerah, but you're still on my lonely mind
02:59.56Seerah:(
03:00.13Funkeh`why do i listen to sad songs
03:00.20Ackiswow romantic Funkeh` can I use that line?
03:00.28Funkeh`no
03:00.34Ackis:(
03:00.51Ackisi wasn't going to use it on seerah
03:01.13Seerahnow I have that song in my head :P
03:01.29Funkeh`is that twice now? ;p
03:02.08NeoTronuploads Magic Targets to wowinterface.
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03:08.30Arrowmasterthis rocks, i have TWO totem of wraths
03:08.50Ackishow?
03:09.33Arrowmasteri have two elemental shamans in my group.....
03:09.46Arrowmasteri wish i actually had gear without spellhit on it
03:09.52Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
03:10.30p3limhttp://ace.pastey.net/89703
03:10.39p3limgot 3 event, two working, but not the buff one
03:11.03p3limgetUnit is a function to compare GUID's
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03:12.02Ackisyou never close your eyes when I kiss your lips
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03:12.11p3limevent runs though, but not the spellID
03:12.13CIA-4403cwdg * r77060 10ButtonFacade_HKitty/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
03:12.13CIA-44ButtonFacade_HKitty:
03:12.13CIA-44-add new skin for ButtonFacade
03:12.27Arrowmasterwhy not just directly compare the guids?
03:12.42NeoTronAckis: 22 slot bags? what?
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03:13.56Diaoyep, haris pilton will sell 22 slot bags in the next patch
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03:15.06Ackis1200g and are they rep associated?
03:16.12Arrowmasterdoubt it
03:16.13p3limArrowmaster: cleaner code while im working on it
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03:16.20Zyndromebitch aint gettin' mah gold
03:16.21p3lim1200g for a 22slot?
03:16.23Zyndrome>:(
03:16.31Ackisit was like 800g for a 20 slotter
03:16.41p3limi pay 250-350g for my 20slots
03:16.53Ackisnow when you make it yourself
03:17.00Ackistry getting them 6 months after BC was out
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03:17.08p3lim:p
03:17.33CIA-4403apoco * r77061 10RBM_Sunwell/ (Kiljaeden.lua locales/enUS.lua): RBM_Sunwell: - Numerous Kil'jaden bug fixes
03:19.15Arrowmasteri had all 20 sloters as soon as i had enough mooncloth from making 1 every 4 days
03:20.23Arrowmasterbeen lazy and havent been making mooncloth at all though after that for alts
03:21.16Arrowmasteri should spec mooncloth tailoring and start making mooncloth again
03:24.12Ackismy tailor is level 54
03:24.37Ackisnamed kaykayk
03:25.44Funkeh`Ackis, you never cease to amaze m
03:25.56Ackisis that a good thing?
03:26.03Funkeh`no idea
03:26.45Ackislol
03:27.38Fisker-slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout
03:28.18Fisker-i owned funkeh
03:28.45elite3vilHi, I'm a hunter who pulls agro on Brut... every. week.
03:28.55elite3vil/twelvegauge
03:29.05ZyndromeFD
03:29.06Zyndrome":D"
03:29.10Fisker-":D"
03:29.26elite3vilyeah, they don't know what FD is.
03:31.18Ackisi just facepalmed irl
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03:32.17NefarionIs the author of Aloft by chance here?
03:33.21Arrowmasterno
03:33.24Arrowmasteraloft is dead
03:33.35Dark_Elfgosh that addon hasnt been updated since 2.3 probably
03:33.36NefarionKnow of any other nameplate skinning addons?
03:33.46NefarionYeah it just broke when I updated some stuff =(
03:33.55ZyndromeAloft is working here :<
03:34.11Zyndromeanyway, nameplates : http://www.vranx.com/nameplates.htm
03:34.22NefarionIt's "working" for me, but just began rendering the fontstring underneath the backdrop and status bar
03:34.29NefarionOut of nowhere
03:34.37NefarionReloaded, reset config, etc
03:35.22NefarionZyndrome: Is that as configurable as Aloft?
03:35.35NefarionOh wait.. nevermind
03:37.54NefarionI'm getting a 403 on the link to pTags. Anyone got a good link to it?
03:38.25Zyndromep3lim , rise RISE RIIIISE FROM YOUR GRAVE
03:38.37Nefarionp3lim: What's your googlecode page?
03:38.41p3limhuh
03:38.52NefarionI need a link to your pTags
03:39.02p3limits discontinued
03:39.05Nefarionfuck
03:39.18p3limBLP change ftw
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03:40.21CIA-4403nikkodemus * r77062 10BuffEnough/ (Locales/Locale-frFR.lua Locales.xml):
03:40.21CIA-44BuffEnough:
03:40.21CIA-44-added an example French localization
03:42.06NefarionNameplates are secure frames, right?
03:43.19p3limNo idea
03:43.27p3limdont think so
03:43.43Arrowmasterso umm... wtf.... http://ace.pastey.net/89704
03:43.52Arrowmasterwas given that error
03:44.08Arrowmasterand im wondering where the fuck the rest of the debug stack is
03:44.45YssarilNefarion: they are but they are complicated since they not spawed via lua since they interact with the 3d world
03:45.21NefarionYssaril: I know the workarounds involved in "catching" them, but I'm wondering if there would be any complications while trying to skin them in combat.
03:45.24p3limIm actually using Tys NamePlates atm
03:46.01Arrowmasterthey are secure
03:46.20Nefarionp3lim: Link?
03:46.44p3limhttp://www.vranx.com/nameplates.htm
03:46.46p3lim:p
03:46.53p3limoh and btw
03:47.00NefarionOh, right
03:47.09p3limpTags was a modified version of EvlNamePlates
03:47.12NefarionYeah, I want to fuck with the layout of them, to make them more minimal
03:47.56NefarionThen I'll try evl. Thanks.
03:49.29p3limYw :)
04:00.30Nefarionwtf
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04:08.47Ackis36% KJ :(
04:08.53Ackishi Funkeh`
04:08.58Ackismay I amaze you?
04:11.45elite3vilBurn + Slash = Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I'm just gonna stand here
04:11.56elite3vilFuck some of these people are retards.
04:18.51p3limYou raiding KJ atm?
04:18.56p3limcause its omfglate
04:19.08Ackisonly 10pm here
04:20.38elite3vilWe're raiding too, it's 12:20a here
04:20.55p3limoh
04:21.00p3limits 06:21 here
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04:21.24elite3vilWe just had a 2% wipe 'cause our dps are idiots and were standing in slash when they had burn
04:21.24elite3vilgg
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04:49.23HesselgrinchHello, I have came here for advice.
04:49.58HesselgrinchI want to learn how to make a basic mod. I want to learn how to announce events with text on the screen.
04:50.06Hesselgrinchwhere do I learn this?
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05:07.32Zyndromehttp://www.thelocal.se/12534/20080618/
05:07.41ZyndromeI am ashamed to live in this fucking country
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05:10.08toybreakerevening everyone..total noob here and i am bound and determine to learn this lua stuff. in this http://ace.pastey.net/89706/2  what is the "num do" portion telling the script to actually do?
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05:12.10toybreakeri meant the "upper do" portion
05:13.11Arrowmasterits a variable, in that its the same as writing 'for i=1,3 do'
05:15.04toybreakeri guess what i have missed is the "do" function. is it as simple as it is just telling it to do what is before it?
05:15.26p3limI found out the problem with SPELL_AURA_APPLIED
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05:15.37p3limit doesnt work for short time buffs
05:16.19p3limIt took thorns, but not Rejuvenation
05:16.46Arrowmastertoybreaker: the 'for i=1,3 do' tells it to repeat the block of code over and over with the first time having i be 1 and increaseing it by 1 until it reaches 3
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05:17.55toybreakergotcha...guess i am just over thinking some of this..thanks for the tip
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05:18.29CIA-44AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
05:18.29CIA-44- id for TCG loot added
05:18.43toybreakeris there a place to ask noob questions i should go to or is this channel cool?
05:18.53p3limno, wait...
05:18.58p3limthis is fucked up
05:19.19CIA-4403cluelessnoob * r77064 10KillingBlow/:
05:19.19CIA-44KillingBlow:
05:19.19CIA-44Adding KillingBlow mod directory.
05:20.38Arrowmasterhmm i guess its not such a bad thing that i couldnt get the link to this file to actually download anything and had to resort to bittorrent
05:20.52Arrowmasterthe torrent seems really fast
05:26.14p3limwhat does "energize" really mean? Energy/mana tick?
05:29.57Arrowmasternot tick but gaining energy/mana
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05:32.11p3limlike potions?
05:32.17Arrowmasteryes
05:34.03p3limi know for sure now that my trinket's proc buff aint categorized as an aura
05:35.33p3limits school is Physical, that has anyting to do with it?
05:35.48Arrowmasterwhats the trinket?
05:36.02Arrowmasterand did you combatlog it?
05:36.03p3limhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34473
05:36.18p3limCant get the silly combatlog thing to work
05:36.29Arrowmasteryou cant get /combatlog to work?
05:36.29Aiianeum, pretty sure the commendation's proc is an aura
05:36.42AiianeEvasive Maneuvers yes?
05:36.50p3limThe text file is just blank
05:36.54p3limeven after a relog
05:37.03Arrowmaster45058
05:37.17Aiianep3lim: have you actually *exited* the game?
05:37.21p3limNo, wait, now its there
05:37.23p3lim:s
05:37.24Arrowmasteryou have 45057 in that pastey
05:37.30Arrowmasterits 45058
05:37.37p3limoh.. crap
05:37.46NeoTronso 2nd time to p[hase 2 twins to day out of 3 tries
05:37.48Aiiane45057 is the spell that casts the aura
05:37.52Aiiane45058 is the aura itself
05:37.57NeoTronfirst time lasted until enrage (but we had lost two full dps groups)
05:38.08p3limah makes sense
05:38.10NeoTronwe got 5 resto shamans now vs 2... :P
05:38.21NeoTronmade the ele shammy respec
05:38.38Arrowmasteri think my rogue friend was frapsing akama tonight
05:38.51Arrowmaster6 fire elemental totems up top with the channelers
05:39.50p3limait, got everything working now :)
05:40.26p3limNow my 2nd issue with the whole addon, does SPELL_CAST_START and/or SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS return any dest args?
05:40.37Arrowmastersuccess might
05:40.41Arrowmasterstart doesnt
05:40.49p3limKnow for sure?
05:40.53Arrowmasteryeah
05:40.57p3limOk
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05:46.11toybreakerquestion - when you define a variable such as x=45 does that reside in memory only or does it get written to disk somewhere? how long will it stay in memory? I am trying to understand these little things so i get what exactly is happening under the covers.
05:46.47Arrowmastermemory only unless you define it as a saved variable
05:46.53Arrowmasterand how long depends on its scope
05:47.20toybreakerok cool
05:48.30Arrowmasterif you define it inside a function definition then it will only exist when that function gets called and is running, if you define it outside of everything and in the root of a lua file then it will exist forever until something unsets it (well not forever but until you logout)
05:53.51NeoTronlol. we were just beat by the ledge boss
05:54.12vithoslol :)
05:54.36vithosledge boss is actually quite challenging.
05:54.36NeoTrontwice
05:54.40NeoTronin a row
05:54.51NeoTronppl were just saying how we hadn't done it for a few nights
05:54.53NeoTronand boom
05:54.59vithosi mean eventually people figure out not to jump at it at an angle where they can possibly fall off
05:55.13vithosbut then you'll be in a pull, someone will get shadowfury + conflag
05:55.27vithosthey'll have their camera turned around and start left+right clicking and then trinket
05:55.42vithosand when the stun is gone, they'll go the opposite way they should and fall off the ledge and jihad melee
05:55.59NeoTronwe got to phase 2 though
05:56.05NeoTronafter 80 wipes with a best of 22%
05:56.12NeoTronit's amazing how much difference 5 resto shamans does
05:57.47p3limWhat would be a good way to get the target name from SPELL_CAST_START then? :S
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05:59.06Arrowmasteryou dont
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05:59.09Arrowmastersince its not possible
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05:59.51digmouseHow to exactly understand the changes to Cheat Death?
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06:05.43p3limWhen you are above 10% hp and you get hit by a spell that can in any means kill you, you are forced down to 10% hp then you take up to 90% less damage for 3 seconds.
06:05.58p3limif youre already at 10 or lower you are still forced to 10%
06:06.18p3limIf i understood it right
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06:07.21p3limArrowmaster: what about something like this? http://ace.pastey.net/89711
06:07.31Arrowmasterno clue cant check it right now
06:07.48p3limHm ok
06:07.55p3limIts only for rebirth tho
06:07.58Arrowmasteri think something just blew up, cant make any new connections to anything and the only thing thats working is existing conenctions
06:08.00vithosup to 90% less damage, based on resilience
06:08.08vithosnot just plain old 90% less damage anymore
06:08.08dylanmp3lim: What are you trying to do?
06:08.19p3limget a name :p
06:08.29Arrowmasterp3lim: if its for yourself casting it then uses the UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events
06:08.50p3limSPELL_CAST_START doesnt return a source arg
06:09.02Arrowmasteryou mean a dest
06:09.08p3limdest ye
06:09.14Arrowmasteryeah its not ment to
06:09.18Arrowmasterand probably never will
06:09.22p3limAURA_APPLIED was the one without source
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06:10.23p3limdylanm: im using SPELL_CAST_START to announce my Rebirth cast to party/raid, but it doesnt return any dest arguments
06:10.58Arrowmasteris it your own spell cast?
06:11.01p3limthe two units that would be the destination is target and mouseover, easy enough
06:11.07p3limYes, its my own Rebirth spell
06:11.21Arrowmasterthen use UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events and not the combatlog
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06:12.55durcynp3lim: rebirth is buggy, you'll need to watch local UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT
06:13.18p3limgonna try that now
06:13.26Arrowmasteryou dont want sent afaik
06:13.31durcynlook at oRA/CTRA code
06:13.40Arrowmastersince you probably only want when you actually finish casting im guessing?
06:13.56p3limno, at the start
06:14.11durcynoh.  CLEU is sufficient for that
06:14.18Arrowmasterno
06:14.21durcynjust be aware that it never shows up in CLEU/SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS
06:14.22Arrowmasterhe wants dest
06:14.39durcyncan't get a dest without a local agent watching spellcast events
06:14.39p3limi want dest for the start of my rebirth
06:14.56Arrowmasteryou have to use UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events if you want detailed info
06:14.58Arrowmasternot combatlog
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06:15.07durcynwhich is still tricky, since only _SENT has useful target data
06:15.11Arrowmasterno
06:15.12p3limyup
06:15.13Arrowmasterthey all do
06:15.15p3limits true
06:15.26durcyndoes player _START show it, arrow?
06:15.27ArrowmasterUnitCastingInfo("player")
06:15.30Arrowmasteri think
06:15.33durcynoh, that might work
06:15.47Arrowmasteryou can get exact info from any of those UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events
06:15.48durcynguarantee you it's not in the event varargs though
06:15.56durcynfor anything but _SENT
06:15.56Arrowmasterit should be
06:16.11Arrowmasterim 99% sure they added target to the rest of them
06:16.23p3limthen wowwiki needs an update
06:16.31Arrowmasterduh
06:16.35Arrowmasterwowwiki always needs an update
06:16.39Cheadsit needs a lot =)
06:16.49durcynwowwiki needs an enema, to be blunt.
06:16.52Arrowmastermost the api stuff is outdated
06:16.56p3limUnitCastingInfo(unit) doesnt give me a dest
06:16.59Cheadssadly
06:17.06Arrowmasterit should
06:17.18p3limagain, if so, wowwiki needs an update :p
06:17.35Arrowmastertry wowprogramming.com then
06:18.05durcynwell, the basic paradigm for CLEU/SPELL_CAST and UNIT_SPELLCAST is to only show actor/spell on _START, and destination on _SENT/_SUCCESS if at all
06:18.25durcynUnitCastingInfo/UnitChannelInfo is the only other conceivable way to pull the target
06:18.35Arrowmasterthe UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events arent restricted on info like CLEU is
06:18.59durcynas far as i've tested, they obey the same restrictions for target
06:19.06Arrowmasterthey dont
06:19.10Arrowmaster100% sure of that
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06:19.33p3limwowprogramming says same as wowwiki, theres no dest on _START
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06:20.03durcynit'd be simple to pull dest from UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, but beyond that it's iffy
06:20.10Arrowmasterwell a lot of wowprogramming is copied from wowwiki
06:20.31Arrowmasterseriously go register for UNIT_SPELLCAST_START and print out the args
06:20.41durcynthe only other way to guarantee knowing the destination is to use a macro that explicitly targets it on target/mouseover or a click-cast on a secure frame template
06:20.46p3limwhat i was thinking tho, was to check two units
06:20.49p3limtarget and mouseover
06:20.58durcynwhy two?
06:21.00p3limand make sure they are not hostile then return the name
06:21.08Arrowmasterp3lim: dont bother with that
06:21.09durcynany token is technically valid for a cast target
06:21.14p3limcause they are the two units that can be casted rebirth on
06:21.15Arrowmasterthe events tell you exactly what you want
06:21.18Arrowmasterand are better
06:21.19durcynyou could be casting rebirth on raid25
06:21.24p3lim:p
06:21.45p3limnot really, will be returning UnitName() ofc
06:21.45dylanmYeah. Could be a macro, could be a strange actionbutton...
06:22.02Arrowmasterim like 99% sure that UNIT_SPELLCAST_START gives target as an arg so go test it since i cant right now
06:22.05p3limbut if i can get a safe one from events then it would be nice
06:22.19p3limhow can i test that?
06:22.20durcynanyway, the short version of all the bullshit above this is that if UnitCastingInfo("player") doesn't show it, then it's not available
06:22.38Arrowmasterregister for it and use vararg
06:22.43durcynat which point you'd have to rever to a macro that did an announce on %t
06:22.50durcynrevert*
06:22.52p3limvararg?
06:23.01p3limim a noob, sorry :p
06:23.02durcynvariable arguments
06:23.21durcyni.e. all the fun strings/numbers that are passed by an event
06:23.23p3limI register an event and print out all avalible arguments
06:24.05durcynright, so if it's not attainable via UNIT_SPELLCAST_START or a UnitCastingInfo immediately thereafter, then it's not available period.
06:24.53durcynuntil _SENT anyway
06:26.05p3limexplain me how i can get the info on vararg, cause i have no idea
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06:26.19p3limregister an event and print, but print what? a function?
06:26.20Arrowmasterusing ...
06:26.31p3limah
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06:28.41p3limit returned target
06:28.54p3limbut only when i had a target
06:29.04Arrowmasterhuh?
06:29.06p3limgonna test some more
06:29.25Arrowmasterit should work even if your clickcasting with no target
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06:30.43Silverstorm_SENT will give you the target name, not the GUID, I believe
06:31.01Silverstormyou have to figure out the GUID yourself, according to my experiences
06:31.02Arrowmasterhe only needs name
06:31.13p3limi dont really need GUID
06:31.31Silverstormok, probably missed while tanking, lol :-p
06:31.32p3limI just want the name of the dest
06:31.53p3limmy message: "Casting Rebirth on "..dest
06:34.59p3limnoone here that wants to die for me, cant test it out completely
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06:41.05p3limArrowmaster: _START didnt return any dest
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06:41.22p3limjust tested
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06:41.55Arrowmasterhmm, _SENT should fire when you start casting a spell though too
06:42.07Arrowmasterbut youll have to make sure the unitid == "player"
06:42.16Arrowmasterbut thats not much to add
06:43.10durcynno, _SENT is the equivalent of CLEU/SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS, it does -not- fire at the same time as _START, rather at the end of the cast time
06:43.36breserI don't think that's right.
06:43.44Arrowmasterneither do i
06:43.55durcynyou're welcome to test it, i'm not making things up
06:44.03Arrowmaster'Fires when a spell cast attempt is started.'
06:44.06breserBecause Quartz uses SENT to get the target and uses it when _START fires.
06:44.48durcynunless i'm drunk and there's another UNIT_SPELLCAST event i have it confused with
06:44.53p3limhm gotta try that then
06:45.06ArrowmasterUNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED?
06:45.18p3limBut ive got rebirth on cd now
06:45.47breserI just cast something with /dteventtrace up.
06:46.16breserUNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCESEDED, UNI_SPELLCASTS_STOP was the order the events fired in.
06:46.31breserBahh and I typoed SUCCEEDED
06:46.40Arrowmasterno start?
06:46.54Arrowmasteror was it instant?
06:47.02Arrowmastersince start doesnt fire on instants
06:47.03ncd|Aileenmh, lua doesn't support source code annotations
06:47.09ncd|Aileenor something like this, right? :/
06:47.10breserIt was instant.
06:47.15breserSorry lifebloom.
06:47.16p3limtry a casting one
06:47.20Arrowmasterncd|Aileen: what?
06:47.48breserSent, Start, SUCCEEDED, STOP
06:48.23Arrowmasteri wonder if STOP still has that hidden arg
06:48.48ncd|Aileensomething like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annotation :)
06:48.53breserarg1="player", arg2="Healing Touch" arg3="Rank 13"
06:49.25Arrowmasterncd|Aileen: so comments?
06:49.43ncd|Aileenmh, using comments to generate code
06:49.45p3lim_SENT got thrown in before _START
06:50.11ncd|Aileenfor example I'm thinking about to mark functions to get exportet as keybindings and generate Bindings.xml via a tool.
06:50.15Arrowmaster_SENT should always come before _START
06:50.41p3limok
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06:50.48Arrowmasterncd|Aileen: you would have to do that somehow with comments or another file as your metadata
06:50.55ncd|Aileenmh, yes
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06:51.05ncd|Aileenwrote a parser for sth like this
06:51.08p3limSo, I should use _SENT instead of _START?
06:51.12Arrowmasteryeah
06:51.18ncd|Aileenbut direct support would be nicer :D
06:52.12breserAnd to add more to the discussion UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, CLEU/SPELL_CAST_START, UNIT_SPELLCAST_START,  CLEU/SPELL_HEAL, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCEEDED, UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP
06:52.37Arrowmasterthe CLEU ones suck?
06:52.39breserThe UNIT_SPELLCAST_START and STOP will be repeated for every unitid that the person casting applies to.
06:53.08breserNahh they're fine.
06:53.14Arrowmasteryeah all UNIT_* func are like that
06:53.35breserExpect _SENT
06:53.43breserBecause _SENT only fires for your own char.
06:53.51p3limbut CLEU still returns dest on _SUCCESS right?
06:54.00Arrowmasterno
06:54.02Arrowmasteronly sometimes
06:54.05Arrowmasterits weird
06:54.07p3lim:s
06:54.11breserDepends.
06:54.15p3limInnervate
06:54.19breserSpells that apply auras won't show.
06:54.20breserNo
06:54.40breserBecuase the SUCCESS event will be the AURA_APPLIED event.
06:54.40charonhas growl/taunt handling changed lately? i noticed yesterday that threat-2.0 ups the threat even if the mob (bloodboil in this case) is immune. of course all threat values then go completely haywire.
06:54.59Arrowmasteras a specific example barron geddons bomb spell cast does have the dest in the CLEU/SPELL_CAST_SUCCEDED
06:55.21Arrowmastercharon: taunt is bugged in threat-2.0
06:55.41charongee, good thing everyone but me knew that
06:55.41p3limWell its my (player) innervate and what I want to know is the dest
06:55.46charonaway for coffee, will fix afterwards...
06:56.03Arrowmasterp3lim: i would use the UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT event for that too then
06:56.05charon(irrespective of taunt i am now also convinced warrior threat is overestimating)
06:56.14p3limoh ok
06:56.45breserHmm looks like some instant casts are now firing SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS, innervate seems to now.
06:56.47Arrowmasteryoull always get more accurate info of your own spells from UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events than CLEU, unless you need guids or spellids
06:56.57CamciWhats UDE Points ?
06:57.14ArrowmasterCamci: trading card game
06:57.22Camciooh ok
06:57.31Camcithanks¨
06:57.54breserUgh... I hate the combat log system.
06:58.07breserSo SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS for innervate returns the target and source...
06:58.17breserFor lifebloom it returns the source but not the target.
06:58.27Arrowmastertold you it was buggy
06:58.29breserbangs head on wall
06:59.00breserI knew it was buggy, just frustrates me still anyway.
06:59.03p3limCLEU CAST_AURA_APPLIED has dest?
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06:59.07CIA-44KillingBlow:
06:59.07CIA-44- Like DGKS, without the duelling and the somewhat ludicrous killing streak logic. Will likely get some
06:59.07CIA-44<PROTECTED>
06:59.16p3limit doesnt have source, but does it have dest?
06:59.25breserYes it has dest.
06:59.29p3limgood
06:59.32Arrowmasterp3lim: SPELL_AURA_APPLIED has a dest but not a source yeah
06:59.38Arrowmasterso you cant use it for innervate
06:59.47Arrowmastersince you dont know whos innvervate it was
06:59.54p3limMine :p
06:59.56breserActually you can.
07:00.07breserInnervate provides the full information in all the fields.
07:00.08Arrowmasteronly if you use other events too
07:00.18Arrowmasternot for SPELL_AURA_APPLIED
07:00.35breserOhh no.  But SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS does.
07:00.44breserWhich has everything you'd need.
07:00.47Arrowmasteri still wouldnt use it unless you need guids
07:00.59breserI'm not really sure what he's trying to do.
07:01.07Arrowmastermake an annoucement mod
07:01.18Arrowmasterfor innervating people or battle resing
07:01.32breserJust for his own casts?
07:01.36Arrowmasterkinda like CastYeller i think
07:01.38Arrowmasteryeah for his own
07:01.52breserI'd use UNIT_SPELLCAST for that.
07:02.03breserCLEU creates a lot more CPU load for your addon.
07:02.08Arrowmasteryeah
07:02.15p3limusing UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT for Innervate and Rebirth now
07:02.17Arrowmasterand is a lot more complex
07:02.28p3limBut im using SPELL_AURA_APPLIED for my trinket proc
07:02.31breserp3lim: You have to use _SENT and SUCCEEDED both.
07:02.42Arrowmasterthe only reason i would ever use CLEU for your own spell casts would be if you needed either guid info or spellid info
07:02.43breserTrinkets are considered spellcasts.
07:02.52breserYou can use _SENT and SUCCEEDED for them too.
07:03.11Arrowmasternah its a buff proc
07:03.18p3limonly reason id like GUID / spellID is so i dont have to care about localisation
07:03.31Arrowmasteryou dont have to worry about those anyway
07:03.31breserE.G.:  UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT arg1="Player" arg2="Essence of the Martyr"
07:03.46Lukian"Equipping an item will now cancel any spell cast currently in progress."
07:03.52breserp3lim: Just do local spellname = GetSpellInfo(id)
07:03.53Lukiandoes that break all the libram swapping addons?
07:03.58ArrowmasterLukian: yes
07:04.03Lukiansad :(
07:04.05p3limthat works?
07:04.09breserYes.
07:04.15breserThen just use the spellname.
07:04.21p3limbut rebirth has 6 ranks
07:04.35Arrowmasterthey all have the same name
07:04.39p3limyea
07:05.02p3limWouldnt that mix up the GUIDs alot?
07:05.05breserIf you ever run into a locale with more than one name for different ranks you can just make a table and iterate it.
07:05.07Arrowmasterno
07:05.18p3limhm
07:05.27Arrowmasterjust use GetSpellInfo() with the rank1 spellid
07:05.35breserBut I doubt you ever will.
07:05.45Arrowmasteryou wont
07:06.05breserAnd put the code that calls SpellInfo in the global section.
07:06.14breserYou only need to run it at load.  No point in doing it every event.
07:06.30breserAnd just makee it local to the file that needs to do the event processing.
07:06.54breserIf you want you can look at what I did with the events for PitBull_Brutallus or PitBull_Kalecgos
07:07.03breserThey use that technique.
07:08.00breserhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull_Kalecgos/Kalecgos.lua
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07:23.12Elkanothe AtlasLoot dev team isn't reachable via IRC, is it?
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07:25.10p3limthanks for all the help through the night btw :)
07:25.17p3limgonna restart my comp now
07:25.20p3limback in 5
07:26.32CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77067 10Bartender4/locale/ (10 files): Bartender4: update locale, now uses a advanced version of cladhaires babelfish script to generate the locale files
07:26.32nevcairielclad|sleep: i took the liberty to modify the babelfish script myself, works pretty nice now =)
07:26.33CIA-4403broliant * r77068 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ConvergeFu.lua: FuBar_ConvergeFu: Fixed bug in function IsAltRankedCharacter(characterName).
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07:27.36digmousebabelfish script?
07:28.07nevcairielfor translators nothing changes at all :p
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07:28.51digmouseI hope it isnt that someone's work this morning is totally revamped
07:29.29digmouseget some sleep, see ya in the night
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07:30.30NeoTronman
07:30.40NeoTrontwins would be so easy if we didn't have any melee dps
07:30.48NeoTronwhat wipes is now is ALWAYS someone in melee fucking up conflag
07:31.21breserPay off the ISPs of all your melee to screw up and disconnect them for a night of raiding.
07:33.47AvrysMelee dps is such a gigantic liability
07:35.07CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77069 10Bartender4/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Bartender4: tweak one translation to be accessible by the babelfish script
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07:39.24p3limJust got an Unknown in my addon
07:39.48p3limit was the regrowth one on UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT
07:40.09Mytoswho was it that offered to help me with writing an addon, my brain died and i dont remmeber who lol
07:40.16p3limThats exactly why i wanted tooltip scanning
07:41.13p3limarg4 (dest) returned "Unknown"
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07:55.59p3limNeoTron: local time there?
07:57.08Drundiap3lim, client for some reason doesn't know name, or maybe someone named something "Unknown"...
07:58.22CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77070 10Bartender4/locale/Babelfish.lua: Bartender4: svn stuff
07:58.52CIA-4403nevcairiel * r77071 10Bartender4/locale/Babelfish.lua: Bartender4: more svn stuff
08:00.14p3limnope
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08:05.36NeoTronperfect phase 1 and I fuck up phase 2 and get a blaze on the raid
08:05.45NeoTrondoesn't help that my whole wow locks up every time shadow nova is cast
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08:11.01p3limDrundia: was ressing a player that had released, as in i could not target
08:11.16p3limthus not returning a destName
08:12.09p3limthats why I want a decent tooltip scanner
08:12.24p3limlocal target = arg4 and arg4 or mouseover
08:13.22NeoTronreally thought tonight was the night
08:13.36NeoTronbut having only seen phase 2 3 times I just didn't get it right yet
08:13.52NeoTronsadly the very first time in p2 I did get it right but we were missing like 8 dps at that point :-/
08:14.49Kuosiwhy use any melee!
08:14.55Kuosistack raids with bm hunters
08:14.57Kuosino mather what boss
08:15.55NeoTronwe have no hunter atm
08:16.00NeoTronone we have is away for the week
08:16.18NeoTronplus not the issue
08:16.23NeoTronin phase 2 everyone stands in one spot
08:16.32NeoTronand I need to run and stand on them every time shadow nova is cast
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08:23.03charonAntiarc/nevcairiel/Xinhuan: what was the idea behind ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:984? i think 'grep Transactional' verifies that nobody relies on that line, but i don't even see the point; by symmetry with 899, i suspect it should run _before_ the custom handling
08:23.24Xinhuani didn't write that, so i don't know
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08:29.14charonhmm, it's antiarcs early code according to blame
08:31.39charoni'd appreciate an extra set of eyes on this if one of you has some time to spare: http://ace.pastey.net/89715
08:32.28charonrationale behind it is that a failed taunt looks like http://ace.pastey.net/89716
08:32.50charonmaybe i should change it to AddTargetThreatTransactional(..., current difference in threat)
08:34.46charonversion with addthreat: http://ace.pastey.net/89717
08:35.52charonit'd still be wrong if you get a multiplicative threat effect inside the 0.65+lag seconds that threat-2.0 waits until it commits transactions, i think fixing that would be more involved
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08:47.45charonoh well.
08:47.45charonno risk, no fun. let's wait for the flames. (i did test that a landed taunt works as expected)
08:47.45CIA-4403charon * r77072 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-2.0: properly handle Taunt and Growl misses by using transactions
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08:49.11Avrysif I thought I could offer anything useful, I'd take a look charon ^_^
08:49.59charonthe problem is, the code is so obviously correct that it has to have at least two flaws, one of which is very well hidden and only appears on tuesdays if it's a full moon
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08:50.48AvrysAmen.
08:51.48Avrys~hugs
08:51.49purlHaskell 98 intepreter. URL: http://www.haskell.org/hugs/
08:51.52Avrysmt!
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08:52.08Pkekyo|g'mornin ladies
08:52.14Avryshi Pkekyo|
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09:02.01nevcairielcharon: i never fully understood what he uses the transactions for
09:02.34charonto handle stuff that, at the time it comes in, we can't know whether it'll eventually apply
09:02.37nevcairielcharon: does it look like that for resists too?
09:02.45charongreps some
09:03.31charonbut the existing code that uses transactions (feign death and soul shatter iirc) is based on the interface cast event, not S_C_SUCCESS
09:03.50charonhence the time allowed for a potential rollback (0.65s+lag) is a bit gratuitous for S_C_S handling
09:04.06charonyeah resists have the exact same structure
09:04.31nevcairielwhen do you commit the taunt transaction?
09:04.42nevcairieli would guess when the debuff applies
09:05.56charonhappens automatically after said timeout
09:05.57nevcairielthe miss is instant
09:05.57nevcairielfrom what i see
09:05.58charonyeah
09:06.12nevcairielheh
09:06.13charonmaybe it would be cleaner to just remember the previous threat on taunt, and SetThreat it back on miss
09:06.29nevcairielour one tank tried to taunt bloodboil several times in a row, wonder if he didnt notice the immune =P
09:06.38charonwelfenhaag huh
09:06.50nevcairielnah our warrior
09:06.53charonthreat-2.0 is a bloody collection of hacks to account for the bloody collection of hacks that constitute the combat log
09:07.03nevcairielsadly, yes
09:07.13nevcairielthreat-2.0 could be a lot cleaner, though
09:07.21nevcairielit was hacked to gether quickly to be ready for 2.4
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09:08.43charonbtw you wouldn't happen to have a twink prot warrior would you
09:08.52nevcairieli do
09:08.53nevcairielwhy?
09:09.10charonwe should run the numbers on all abilities sometime
09:09.29charonwarriors vs druid threat is off at least a few percent
09:09.41nevcairielI dont think its the raw numbers
09:09.45nevcairielits somewhere in the logic
09:09.47nevcairielbut sure
09:10.07charoni managed to keep the warrior at 111-115% of my threat for some time yesterday on bloodboil, but kept aggro up until the confusion thingy
09:10.28nevcairielwarriors are over-reporting, thats for sure
09:10.32nevcairielwe just dont know where
09:10.38charonyeah :(
09:10.55nevcairielits only a few percent though
09:10.58nevcairielmaybe its lifebloom
09:11.00nevcairielwho knows
09:11.20nevcairielor PoM for that matter
09:12.52charonhmm. interesting theory, but then why do we only hear about warrior threat?
09:13.05charon(or at least _i_ haven't heard any druid/paladin overestimation rumours)
09:13.50nevcairielno idea
09:13.53nevcairielwas just a guess
09:14.03[Ammo]you probably hear due to the fact that warriors tank a fuckton
09:14.15charonhttp://wowwebstats.com/g5drairwg5fvi?s=305500-331999&a=x64fc1
09:14.18[Ammo]and more often in the main role
09:14.27charonLB+ES only account for about 18000 heals... 9k threat tops
09:14.36nevcairielhm
09:14.42nevcairiel9k is nothing
09:14.56nevcairielwarriors are generally 5-6% off
09:15.02nevcairielmaybe a bit less
09:15.18nevcairieloh well, guess we have to do some testing
09:16.10charonhmm... at say 900tps, we'd get like 10 seconds worth of tanking, IOW to be 5% we'd be 200s into the fight
09:16.19charonon BB with all the insignificance, that's not far fetched
09:18.12nevcairielon that note, we had the worst bb kill ever yesterday =P
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09:18.21nevcairielwell maybe not ever
09:18.24nevcairielbut for a long time
09:18.24nevcairielhehe
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09:18.53charon:S
09:19.22nevcairielbut one shotted kalecgos, guess everyone was getting tired
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09:19.50nevcairieloh well, time to leave for class
09:20.02charonhave fun ;)
09:20.14nevcairieli wont
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09:20.32nevcairielfirst have to turn in my java task thingy
09:20.48nevcairieland then 3 hours SAP shit :(
09:20.55Kalrothhaha
09:21.03KalrothWhich SAP?
09:21.59nevcairielECC 6.0 i guess
09:22.13Kalroth><
09:22.18Kalrothbring lots of coffee
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09:22.43nevcairielwe're only learning usage for now .. ABA programming is only next semester <.<
09:23.05KalrothUrgh
09:23.40nevcairielits soooo boring
09:23.41KalrothI think I'll go slack some, to celebrate you doing both Java and SAP!
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09:23.58KalrothTaking one for the team, good nev!
09:24.19nevcairielhah
09:24.21nevcairiel*gone
09:24.45Kuosijava is srs business
09:25.07Kuosifree from that for whole summer
09:25.16VulcanusDoes anybody here know how to work with LibPeriodicTable-3.1-ClassSpells? There's a - character in front of all the SpellIDs and I don't know if it's a mistake by the dataminer or if I'm missing something...
09:25.35CIA-4403cluelessnoob * r77073 10KillingBlow/sounds/ (16 files):
09:25.35CIA-44KillingBlow:
09:25.35CIA-44- Like DGKS, without the duelling and the somewhat ludicrous killing streak logic. Will likely get some
09:25.35CIA-44<PROTECTED>
09:27.02VulcanusNo other LPT file has that - in front of the IDs O.o
09:28.27[SW]Dodgewhat character Vulcanus?
09:28.33Vulcanusa dash
09:28.34Vulcanus-
09:28.44Vulcanus["ClassSpell.Druid.Balance"]="-5176:1,-8921:4
09:28.45Vulcanusetc
09:29.09[SW]Dodgehm
09:29.31VulcanusI think it's a bug in the dataminer, since no other LPT file has it and the Wiki is void of any info on it
09:29.31[SW]Dodgetried if it works if you try to get by normal id? wothout the dash?
09:29.47Vulcanusyeah it does
09:30.16[SW]Dodgeif it works then just ignore the dash =)
09:30.17SunTsuVulcanus: There's a reason for it, I just don't remember what it was
09:30.48Vulcanusdammit, I need to know how to work with it =/
09:31.33[SW]Dodgeneed to know generally how to use lpt or just how to handle the dashes*
09:31.35[SW]Dodge?
09:31.57Vulcanushow to handle the dashes, I found this substr function on google but it can't seem to consistently do it right
09:33.31[SW]Dodgejust use "-"..spellID for search
09:34.02[SW]Dodgeand strsub(your_id_with_dash, 1)
09:34.09[SW]Dodgemaybe the 1 have to be 2
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09:34.41[SW]Dodgelua> strsub("hello world!",1)
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09:34.41lua_bot[SW]Dodge: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'strsub' (a nil value)
09:34.49[SW]Dodgelua> string.strsub("hello world!",1)
09:34.49lua_bot[SW]Dodge: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'strsub' (a nil value)
09:34.50cncfanaticshello peeps
09:34.54[SW]Dodgewtf o.o
09:35.03cncfanaticslua> print(string.sub);
09:35.04lua_botcncfanatics: function: 0x62e420
09:35.09cncfanatics[SW]Dodge: fail
09:35.20[SW]Dodgeah-.-
09:35.31[SW]Dodgewell i see
09:35.45[SW]Dodgegoogle liked mei to lua 2.4 manual -.-
09:35.45Vulcanuslua> str.sub("hello world!",1)
09:35.46lua_botVulcanus: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'str' (a nil value)
09:35.54Vulcanuslua> string.sub("hello world!",1)
09:35.54lua_botVulcanus: hello world!
09:35.58Vulcanuslua> string.sub("hello world!",2)
09:35.58lua_botVulcanus: ello world!
09:36.03[SW]Dodge2 :D
09:36.04[SW]Dodge^^
09:36.52Vulcanushm... I'll check it out to see if it works, I want to pass these IDs to a getspellinfo ysee, because Im making a cache of all the spells a char has in their spellbook, so dashes can't be there ;p
09:36.56Vulcanusthanks :)
09:36.58[SW]Dodgecncfanatics: /dump strsub => [11:34:43] function: 10850E48
09:36.58[SW]Dodge^^
09:37.10SunTsuello world looks like a french speaking ;)
09:37.24cncfanatics[SW]Dodge: thats WoW lua
09:37.26cncfanaticsnot luabot lua :p
09:37.31[SW]Dodgeyea
09:38.32[SW]Dodgehmm, someone ever tried to move you ingame char but with window focus on irc client? -.-
09:38.55[SW]Dodgeit doesnt work -.-'
09:39.01cncfanatics:
09:39.02cncfanatics:o
09:39.10cncfanatics[SW]Dodge is now officialy the new sherlock holmes !
09:39.16jy`[SW]Dodge: works better at login screen with focus on irc
09:39.43jy`since then i never press enter to login
09:39.49jy`always clic
09:39.52cncfanaticshaha
09:39.57cncfanaticswell, its possible to have irc & WoW on the same screen :pbut not thay way
09:39.59cncfanaticsthat*
09:40.17cncfanaticswhats a good mail addon ?
09:40.17[SW]Dodgejy` : yea thats bad (happend today for me, while enteryng passowrd irc get focus while starting it ^^)
09:40.20cncfanaticspostal or bulkmail ?
09:40.30jy`^^
09:40.41jy`dual screen ftw
09:41.13[SW]Dodgejy`: dual screen + dual box^^
09:41.26[SW]Dodge2pc, 3 monitor
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09:42.36Zyndromehttp://go-hero.net/opie/gallery
09:42.38Zyndrome;o
09:43.35Drundialuabot lua should become closer to wow lua
09:44.06cncfanaticswhy ?
09:44.09cncfanaticsits not WoW lua :p
09:44.13[SW]DodgeZyndrome: : wow, whats the nome of that addon? :O
09:44.20Drundiafor portability
09:44.24ZyndromeOPie
09:44.30Zyndromeyou can download it under the Download-tab
09:44.45Drundiaso that cool tests can be ported easily back and forth
09:45.10cncfanaticswhat does it work for ? except druid forms
09:45.14cncfanaticsthe video is sluggish
09:45.32Zyndromeyou can bind whatever you like into it
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09:45.40Zyndromedruid forms are just an example
09:45.41cncfanaticsnot bad
09:45.50cncfanaticslooks quite good
09:45.55cncfanaticsthough not very usefull for a rogue :p
09:46.17clad|sleepwhy not?
09:46.28cncfanaticswhat would I bind into that ?
09:46.29clad|sleepit allows you to easily do things like mouse gestures
09:46.34clad|sleepshift move move down to stealth
09:46.53cncfanaticsI rather have things I might use in combat keybinded in my actionbars
09:47.01cladhairegreat
09:47.05cladhairethat doesn't make it not useful for a rogue
09:47.19cladhaireit makes it not useful for someone who have their keybinding set up the way you do
09:47.20cladhaire:P
09:47.25cncfanaticstrue enough
09:49.10SunTsuI most of the tine wonder where my mouse cursor might be, so this is not for me ;)
09:50.51Vulcanusis there a way to convert a string to an int? Basically the string is a number, but since its being treated as a string it mucks up table keying
09:51.40charonlua> tonumber("5")
09:51.41lua_botcharon: 5
09:52.03Vulcanusdoh XD thanks
09:56.37[SW]Dodgeis there an atlasloot pro here?
09:56.44cncfanaticsyea, don't use it
09:57.10Tehpurgerlol
09:57.22Vulcanuswhat would you suggest instead then cnc ;p
09:57.28ramozwowhead
09:57.44Vulcanusye ok, make wowhead work with EQCompare then
09:58.30cncfanaticshmmmm
09:58.38cncfanaticsI have no actual suggestion for a replacement :p
09:59.34Vulcanusdidn't think so XD
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10:04.53LukianI'm curious if Improved Curse of Shadows is now Improved curse of Elements (warlock aff talent tree, 2.4.3), anyone know?
10:05.09LukianMalediction*
10:05.14Tehpurgerid imagine
10:05.40Tehpurgerwait, malediction gives 3% to both curses
10:06.12Lukianah so it does
10:06.14Lukianinteresting
10:06.28Tehpurgerreading is fundamental
10:06.36Lukianhaha
10:06.38Lukiantrue :(
10:06.53Tehpurgeri wonder what their going to do with it
10:07.02Tehpurgerif their just going to chane the tooltip or buff it possibly
10:07.48Vulcanuschange tooltip
10:08.01Vulcanusthis change as well as the Interface Timer functionality was backported from WotLK
10:09.32Lukianwe'll be getting 3.0 in 3mths anyway, maybe :D
10:09.41Tehpurgerlol maybe
10:10.02Lukianhmm actually the brewfest content is in 2.4.3
10:10.10Lukianso they can delay it till oct/nov now
10:10.29Tehpurgerwhat was the final patch before BC came out?
10:10.34Tehpurger2.?
10:10.42Lukian2.0 or 2.0.1
10:12.43Tehpurgerbefore that?
10:14.14Lukian1.9.1?
10:15.02jy`1.13
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10:15.12Lukianah yup
10:15.14jy`just a bet
10:15.25jy`i dont remember a 1.14
10:16.49CIA-4403mfg * r77074 10StatBlocks_TimeInFight/StatBlocks_TimeInFight.lua:
10:16.49CIA-44StatBlocks_TimeInFight:
10:16.49CIA-44- fixed some display issues
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10:31.11CIA-4403hegarol * r77075 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua:
10:31.11CIA-44AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
10:31.11CIA-44- more ids for tcg loot
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10:42.27qwestoLukian, since they are merging CoS and CoE into CoE, they're probably just going to remove the CoS part of Malediction
10:42.36Lukianaye
10:43.15SunTsuIt#s a great move, anyway. No more "Put CoE on!" "No, I need CoE!"-type dialogues
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10:45.38Lukianhaha indeed :D
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10:53.18Drundiamalediction tooltip is like updated to resemble absense of cos
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10:55.58CIA-4403daviesh * r77076 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (AtlasLoot.lua AtlasLoot.xml):
10:55.58CIA-44AtlasLoot:
10:55.58CIA-44- Bugfix for unintended consequence of changing the .refresh routine
10:56.06LukianDrundia, cheers
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10:59.32CIA-4403pettigrow * r77077 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/Locale-frFR.lua: LibKeyBound-1.0: frFR Update
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11:01.50CIA-4403Copystring * r77078 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua:
11:01.50CIA-44YurrCombatLog:
11:01.50CIA-44- small change for type "Others"
11:01.50CIA-44- changed XP output, it will only show exp from slain mobs now
11:01.50CIA-44- added dispel event :D
11:08.16CIA-4403cwdg * r77079 10Bartender4/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
11:08.16CIA-44Bartender4:
11:08.16CIA-44add missing locales
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11:20.58Zynderpscongratulates the assholes getting the "Post your UI" thread locked on eu-forums
11:22.08Pkekyo|wtf, how'd they manage to do that?
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11:22.51Zyndromewell, just kids who want everything given to them on a silver plate
11:23.01Zyndromehttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4095362070&sid=1&pageNo=25 , 2nd from the bottom
11:24.28cncfanaticspost by Shirah ?
11:24.39cncfanaticsif only he knew all what happened here :p
11:24.59Zyndromeso someone went "Mom! This guy is using valid arguments against me! Lock! Lock! ;_;" and reported
11:25.17Pkekyo|christ
11:25.24Pkekyo|:p
11:25.42cncfanaticsgg
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11:25.49cncfanaticsbtw, anyone has tips on how to study literature faster ?
11:25.54cncfanaticsI want to get rid of this damn thing asap
11:26.10Pkekyo|cncfanatics: copy off someone else
11:26.20cncfanaticsgot an exam tomorrow
11:26.24cncfanaticsits oral
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11:26.59Pkekyo|sucks for you then :p
11:27.00Zyndrome"Litterature is bollocks. Thank you." and walk back to your seat
11:27.02Pkekyo|read! faster!
11:27.15cncfanaticsbah
11:27.52cncfanaticsthe creation of theater
11:27.53cncfanaticsbooooooring
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11:31.02Pkekyo|should've chosen another class then
11:31.22Pkekyo|class/subject/whatever
11:32.14cncfanaticsI'm doing science-maths
11:32.18cncfanaticsdon't ask me why I have literature :s
11:33.28SunTsucncfanatics: You don't end up as a narrow minded science nerd ;)
11:33.41Pkekyo|rofl cncfanatics
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11:39.43Zyndromewait a minute
11:39.48Zyndromethe thread wasn't locked
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11:39.51Zyndromeit reached postlimit
11:39.59Zyndromeand its so damn confusing
11:40.28Zyndrome"Post your UI"-thread locks at 500 replies... "What UI\Addon is that?"-thread is over 1400 replies and still going
11:40.37Groler*think2
11:42.56[SW]Dodgeckknight: ping3
11:43.00[SW]Dodge-3 ^^
11:43.03ckknight[SW]Dodge: pong
11:43.11[SW]Dodgehttp://dodgex.servegame.com/minimap.jpg
11:44.49[SW]Dodgecapture bar moving is bugged (only the display) its ok after uncheck "movable"
11:51.08ckknightweird
11:55.59[SW]Dodgeyea
11:59.45CIA-4403whyv * r77080 10Bartender4/locale/zhTW.lua: Bartender4: update zhTW locale
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12:33.41ktwodo u think rogue/sp can still hit 2k?
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12:39.24cncfanaticsdepends with what attack
12:39.33Kuosiktwo: yes
12:39.37cncfanaticsI sure can make 2k evisc with my rogue
12:39.41cncfanaticsbut I barely use evisc so :p
12:39.51SunTsucncfanatics: He surely meant rating ;)
12:39.58cncfanaticsah :p
12:40.01cncfanaticsme never pvps
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12:40.41ktwo:) cause we seem to be stuck at 1900 losing to Mage/Rogue or Disc/Rogue :/
12:41.28Kuosiyes sometimes you face counters
12:41.32Kuosibut hey thats wow pvp
12:41.51ktwosometimes? out of 10 games half of it are frostmage/rogue :(
12:42.05Kuosippl say druid+war is most played comp
12:42.14Kuosion my war i havent faced a mirror in like 50 games
12:42.16Kuosiat 2.3k rating
12:42.19SunTsuThat reminds me that I need to get some PvP gear for my frostmage ;)
12:42.35cncfanaticshmmm
12:42.38cncfanaticsI might go pvp some on my rogue
12:42.41dylanmWhat else is a frost mage even good for
12:42.45cncfanaticswhats prominent arena builds these days ?
12:42.52Kuosi20/0/41
12:42.59SunTsudylanm: For nearly everything? ;)
12:43.07ktwowith rogue/sp i'm rather happy when we face druid/warr^^
12:43.19Kuosiroll a human rogue, get glaives + 4xt6 and team up with a restoking
12:43.24Kuosimakes counter setups kinda go away
12:43.39Kuosiys rogue/sp is strong against war druid
12:43.51cncfanaticsKuosi: mmmmm :p
12:43.57cncfanaticss4 weapons are so gonna beat glaives :S
12:43.59cncfanaticssadly
12:44.02Kuosino way
12:44.12cncfanaticsI wouldn't be surprised if they did tbh
12:44.16ktwothe proc will be awesome still
12:44.16Kuosinop they wont
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12:44.18Kuosinot in pvp
12:44.20Kuosinot in pve
12:44.46ktwobut well you cant compare 2 legendary with a very low drop chance with "standard" s4
12:44.46cncfanaticswon't s4 be close to swp gear ? (ilvl wise)
12:45.23Kuosiyes
12:45.29Kuosibut glaives > anything you get from swp
12:45.29Kuosiso
12:45.32cncfanaticsfor the record, I think legendaries that are just drops and not quested are stupid :p
12:46.01Kuosiglaives are 9% dps increase compared to s3 weapons atm for shs rogue :o
12:46.06Kuosithat is quite BIG
12:46.17cncfanaticsgranted
12:46.33Kuosisustained dmg that is
12:46.36cncfanaticshmmm, I better get raiding asap
12:46.38Kuosiofc burst with glaives is even higher
12:46.41cncfanaticsI want to see swp before wotlk hits :p
12:46.42Kuosithanks to 2.8speed mh
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12:47.31Kuosii only have mh on my rogue but i wont bother buying s4 sword
12:47.40ktwoi think i will get discipline gear with s4 <.< less trouble as with shadow
12:48.45cncfanaticsmeh, any raiding guilds here recruiting ? :p
12:48.54dylanmYou'll certainly get higher.
12:48.56cncfanaticscan link my arena profile if wanted (I'm a rogue)
12:49.52dylanmI still do rogue/spriest but it's a snowflake thing to be honest.
12:49.54ktwowhat setup then? with rogue as well ? or better get a warrior?
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12:52.42Kuosidisc p + rogue is a solid setup aswell
12:52.48Kuosidisc p + warrior works aswell
12:52.49dylanmA warrior will just wish he had a druid.
12:52.53Kuosiso does disc + wl
12:53.17cncfanaticsdisc = imba ?
12:53.53dylanmI guess. It's probably more that holy is so bad.
12:54.05cncfanaticspve & pvp specs I guess
12:54.10cncfanaticsI don't see a disc priest healing bt :p
12:54.17Kuosinop
12:54.18ktwook.. then maybe rogue will be best choice, considering that i already play with one
12:54.36Kuosibut when swapping to disc p + rogue
12:54.44Kuosimakes you want to dodge war+druids
12:54.55ktwoif your raid can afford it a disc priest is not even that bad
12:55.04cncfanaticswhy would you want one ?
12:55.12cncfanaticsits strictly inferior to a holy one :p even if you can afford
12:55.42ktwopain supression for critical situation like bloodboils fel rage for example, though the situations are very limited :)
12:56.24cncfanaticsI think its the single fight where that would be useful :p
12:59.17Kuosivery much worthwile then!
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13:00.32dylanmIs Rapture the extent of their plan for making discipline raid-viable?
13:02.18ktwomind sear will be nice, who will want to heal when they can aoe! :D
13:02.20kenlyricyou mean, bring on the Rapture? yes.
13:02.45Kalrothbrings it on!
13:03.07dylanmkenlyric: Yes, armageddon.
13:04.06CIA-4403funkydude * r77082 10BasicMinimap/ (6 files in 2 dirs): BasicMinimap: Added minor border options
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14:16.27kalahassidruid and warriors taunt misses are handled now, dont we need that for paladins as well? my classknowledge is not the best ...
14:18.34kalahassiin threat, i forgot to add^^
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14:25.39AckisWorkmorning
14:27.55Zhinjioheya
14:34.06AckisWorkare the loot rarity constants new globals in 2.4.3?
14:35.22profalbert~frameXML
14:35.23purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
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14:36.43AckisWorkthat doesn't help me determine if it's a new global or not because 2.4.3 isn't up yet, and I would have no idea on a global search feature there :(
14:37.38profalbertAckisWork: I needed the links for me :P
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14:38.15AckisWorkoh
14:38.16AckisWork:P
14:38.23AckisWorkI thought you were tying to help me :P
14:38.50CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77083 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ (Build.lua LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/PetAndMountDatabase.lua):
14:38.50CIA-44LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0:
14:38.50CIA-44- Added 2.4.3 MiniPets, Nether Ray Fry and Soul-Trader Beacon
14:40.18CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77084 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/PetAndMountDatabase.lua:
14:40.18CIA-44LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0:
14:40.18CIA-44- Forgot to bump WOW_VERSION
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14:41.55profalbertwhat registry entries do I need, so I can install the AddOn Kit.
14:42.24profalbertjust copypasted the wow-folder
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14:45.05Arrowmasterjust run wow
14:45.08CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77085 10MiniPet/ (MiniPet.lua MiniPet.toc MiniPet.xml):
14:45.08CIA-44MiniPet:
14:45.08CIA-44- Changed from char to profile for storage
14:45.18Seerahit has instructions, iirc
14:45.22Seerahif only on the d/l page
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14:50.17ckknightdoes LordFarlander come to IRC?
14:50.33[Ammo]hahahaha
14:50.34[Ammo]no
14:50.52[Ammo]I already renamed his LibHelper-1.0 to LibLordFarlander-1.0
14:50.56[Ammo]and he ate it :p
14:52.04CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77086 10Stable/ (Stable.lua Stable.toc localisation.lua):
14:52.04CIA-44Stable:
14:52.04CIA-44- Removed reference to Rock from the title
14:52.04CIA-44- Reverted DoSwaps to 1.1 version
14:52.04CIA-44- Added missing Normal translation
14:52.05CIA-44- Fixed unknown subset names getting displaying parent's set name in the configuration instead of their own
14:52.09CIA-44- Slash commands are now localised
14:52.26CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77087 10Tabard/Tabard.toc:
14:52.26CIA-44Tabard:
14:52.26CIA-44- Removed Rock from the name in the TOC
14:53.15Stanzilla/facepalm
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14:57.29CIA-4403ackis * r77088 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
14:57.29CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
14:57.29CIA-44- Add new 2.4.3 Tailoring patterns (thanks Anaral)
14:57.29CIA-44- Add Haughty Modiste as a vendor (needs translations)
14:57.29CIA-44- Updated Crusader enchant drop locations (needs transaltion for L["Enchant Weapon - Crusader Obt1"])
14:57.29CIA-44- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
14:57.29AckisWorkwhat is removing Rock from the name in the ToC?
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15:00.48dylanmAckisWork: You know how it was all the rage to put some colored "[Ace2]" tag in the "## Title:" line?
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15:01.10AckisWorkahh, he did the same thing with Rock?
15:01.14CIA-4403durcyn 07Ace3 * r77089 10Hourglass/ (. core.lua embeds.xml): add missing AceGUI dep for AceConfig(Dialog)
15:01.29Funkeh`yeah, it's something you want to show off, y'know
15:02.06AckisWorkI was thinking of writing a mod called "Alternative Combat Enhancements version 4.0) so I could steal ACE4
15:02.28Funkeh`i'll ACE you
15:02.32AckisWorklol
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15:02.45AckisWorkwell with that mod name it's an acronym so ACE is correct
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15:03.23dylanmDon't be fooled by the rocks that I got.
15:03.38CIA-4403durcyn * r77090 10Omniscience/ (. embeds.xml): Omniscience: add missing libs to externals/embeds, for the two people who actually use this thing.
15:04.50Obelixprimewhat does omniscience do?
15:05.20Funkeh`eats your babies
15:05.37durcynit will eventually be a necb-style enemy cast/cooldown/buff timer, once i get un-lazy
15:05.40AckisWorksomebodies witty today
15:05.57Funkeh`AckisWork, back to work
15:06.04AckisWorkyes ma'am
15:06.05durcynactually, it mostly works now, just needs a lot of polish
15:06.12durcynand i don't mean sausage
15:06.32Funkeh`AckisWork, that's misstres to you
15:06.56AckisWorki thought we saved that for the bedroom?
15:06.59Obelixprimeoooh, there was a mod i remember seeing off of EJ about how it tracks alll the cooldowns for all the players which are in a raid
15:07.03Obelixprimethat's not it is it though?
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15:08.47AckisWorkapparently my internet went out at home
15:08.52Funkeh`'cause all they gave me was this ticket to heaven, ticket to heaven
15:09.36durcynObelixprime: there's an RDX module with a similar name, i need to come up with a new one
15:10.12durcynor just backport it to antagonist, since it basically does the same shit
15:12.53ObelixprimeOmniant
15:12.56Obelixprimeyou could call it that
15:13.27dylanmDECB
15:13.32CIA-4403next96 * r77091 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
15:13.32CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
15:13.32CIA-44- Update locale koKR
15:14.00AckisWorkloves next96
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15:15.23Funkeh`ur kool mon
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15:15.48AckisWorkpay attention to a different channel :P
15:16.01Kalroth_unf
15:19.05CIA-4403next96 * r77092 10Bartender4/locale/koKR.lua:
15:19.05CIA-44Bartender4:
15:19.05CIA-44- Update locale koKR
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15:33.14[Liquidor]http://www.pastey.net/89724 HCSEvent is never called, what am i doing wrong? first time using lua for frames
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15:45.41Elsia~seen bigzero
15:45.42purlbigzero <n=a@adsl-76-203-12-29.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 122d 18h 5m 59s ago, saying: 'Elsia, maybe pets just got buffed a lot in 2.4 /shrug'.
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16:04.49CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77093 10Baldrick/ (Baldrick.toc Img/Baldrick.tga):
16:04.50CIA-44Baldrick:
16:04.50CIA-44- Removed Rock from the name in the TOC
16:04.50CIA-44- New temporary image, looks like a turnip to me...
16:07.24ArrowmasterBaldrick? wtf kinda name is that?
16:07.48AckisWorkdon't ask
16:08.19durcynhairless genitals, if I read it correctly.
16:08.33AckisWorkthat's bald dick
16:08.41AckisWorkhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14013.0
16:09.25Hesselgrinchhello geniuses!
16:09.33Hesselgrinchi need some guidance.
16:09.41AckisWork0.9999 ~= 1
16:09.54HesselgrinchI want to learn how to make a simple mod, I want to know where I learn to do that.
16:10.07AckisWorkcheck out the Ace3 welcome home tutorial
16:10.14HesselgrinchI want to make a mod that announces events with just text on the screen
16:11.40SunTsuHesselgrinch: You could take sct, Parrot, MSBT and anything alike, they do just that
16:11.46CIA-4403hegarol * r77094 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
16:11.46CIA-44AtlasLoot:
16:11.47CIA-44- complete overhaul of TCG section
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16:12.45profalbertsct can do that?
16:12.59SunTsuprofalbert: Yeah, it has triggers, too
16:13.00CIA-4403hegarol * r77095 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua:
16:13.00CIA-44AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
16:13.00CIA-44- complete overhaul of TCG section
16:14.13HesselgrinchSunTsu yes, but I want my own.
16:14.24Hesselgrinchthey dont support the events I want
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16:14.36profalbertHesselgrinch: what events do you need?
16:14.54Hesselgrinchmainly pvp events
16:15.03SunTsuHesselgrinch: OK, then go ahead, but you are aware that you can define triggers and such yourself? So, what kind of events do you want?
16:15.14Hesselgrinchlike "Rogue uses CoS"
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16:15.22SunTsuHesselgrinch: Witchhunt
16:15.28profalbertHesselgrinch: CombatAlarm
16:15.43Hesselgrinch"Your felarmor has been removed"
16:16.09profalbertHesselgrinch: "Your felarmor has been removed" is possible with Parrot/MSBT
16:16.42Hesselgrinchhum ok
16:17.01HesselgrinchIll check witchhunt and parrot out then.
16:17.14CIA-4403odlaw * r77096 10BangItHarder/ (7 files):
16:17.14CIA-44BangItHarder: initial commit
16:17.14CIA-44- Track drums with graphical bars and announcements
16:17.39Hesselgrinchone more thing, id like something that announces in partychat when I fear someone, or spell lock someone
16:17.45Hesselgrinchyou know a mod for that too? :D
16:17.58profalbertHesselgrinch: CombatAlarm
16:18.03Hesselgrinchlike "Hesselgrinch fear profalbert"
16:18.14Hesselgrinchprofalbert ty :D
16:18.18profalbertwait
16:18.21Hesselgrinchcombat alarm sounds like something I want
16:18.41profalbert"Hesselgrinch fear profalbert" is not possible
16:18.55profalbertjust profalbert gains Fear
16:19.05Hesselgrinchya sure
16:19.10Hesselgrinchannounces to party chat?
16:19.17profalbertcombatalarm can do that
16:19.23Hesselgrinchgood
16:19.35Hesselgrinchwell
16:19.37Hesselgrinchhum
16:19.50Hesselgrinchcan I define so that I only accounce when Im the one that gave him fear?
16:19.53Hesselgrinchor spell lock?
16:19.56Hesselgrinchor banish?
16:20.01Hesselgrinchannounce
16:20.35profalbertHesselgrinch: no cause the combatlogevent for the debuff-gain has no source-argument, and the SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS has no target-arg
16:20.49SunTsuHesselgrinch: You could use a macro for that
16:21.09Hesselgrinchproblem is I dont want to announce unsuccessfull casts
16:21.17SunTsuIt's just, I normally feel the urge to kill people who spam like that
16:21.31profalbertI guess it's for arena purposes
16:21.35Hesselgrinchyes
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16:21.54Hesselgrinchwe want party announce and we all use party chat boubles
16:22.00Hesselgrinchso we see who cc what
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16:22.49Funkeh`bangitharder?
16:22.51Funkeh`haha
16:22.53Funkeh`brilliant
16:22.53Hesselgrinchanyway Ill see what I can get those mods to do
16:22.56Odlawhehe
16:23.10Hesselgrinchty profalbert, SunTsu and the rest of you.
16:23.19SunTsuHesselgrinch: yw
16:23.23GnarfozFunkeh`: just that it's probably the 5th addon to do it ^^
16:23.38Funkeh`no it bangs the hardest
16:23.47Gnarfozjust harder
16:23.47Gnarfoz;P
16:23.49Hesselgrinchhum
16:23.53Hesselgrinchwhat bangitharder do?
16:24.01Odlawwas originally just a guild only addon i did
16:24.04LordFarlanderSorry I didn't have IRC open what is the problem?
16:24.06SunTsu18:17:48 < CIA-44> - Track drums with graphical bars and announcements
16:24.07Odlawdrum tracking, graphical bars, etc
16:24.18Odlawgimme a sec to add the stupid externals
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16:28.10CIA-4403odlaw * r77097 10BangItHarder/: BangItHarder: externals i hope.
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16:30.01AckisWorkwhat's the diff between the mammoth/rhino with aoc? (the pre-order ones that is)
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16:30.14Jyggamodel ?
16:30.29Jyggatextures? skinshaders?
16:30.32Jygga:P
16:30.46AckisWorkduh :P but how do you get the rhino? the mammoth was the pre-order I thought?
16:30.47Jyggashort: the hair
16:31.29LordFarlanderAckis, you requested me?  Was it just because I was checking in an wasn't on IRC (again sorry I get caught up with stuff and forget will get on beforehand from now on)?
16:31.31CIA-4403odlaw * r77098 10BangItHarder/: BangItHarder: external lawl.
16:31.41Jyggaboth are tradeable for codes
16:32.01AckisWorkLordFarlander: Just wanted to suggest you jump on IRC
16:32.13LordFarlanderOkay, thanks for the reminder :)
16:32.25AckisWorkidle here, and you can learn a lot from the smart people around
16:33.20JyggaAckisWork talkin bout preorder codes :)
16:33.20LordFarlanderI could probably use that lol
16:34.01AckisWorkJygga: they're both the same code or they're different? aka random?
16:34.31Jyggadifferent codes, eu us are different too
16:34.46AckisWorkahh so the rhino is eu and mammoth us?
16:36.01CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77099 10Baldrick/ (. LordFarlander-1.0.lua embeds.xml):
16:36.01CIA-44Baldrick:
16:36.01CIA-44- Use Gratuity for ItemIsSoulbound since it's already being included
16:36.01CIA-44- Reorder embeds.xml because LibQuixote-2.0 also needs CallbackHandler-1.0
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16:48.32DARKGuyLordFarlander: yeah, AckisWork can also spam you with his minicity link so you give more people to his city :D
16:48.34DARKGuyI do it everyday ^_^
16:48.47DARKGuyIn fact...
16:48.55DARKGuyAckisWork: where's mah linkage?! D:
16:50.35SunTsuLordFarlander: The biggest plus for hanging out here is that you had noticed somebody renamed your LibHelper immediately ;)
16:50.36AckisWorkDARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/
16:50.38AckisWorkwas doing work :P
16:50.43DARKGuylol ^_^
16:50.44DARKGuyyay :D
16:50.47AckisWorkhehe
16:51.26ackisbah
16:51.29ackismemoserv sucks
16:51.34DARKGuyhahaha
16:51.41DARKGuyit does
16:51.43AckisWorkI have a memo on ackis but I can't read it
16:51.52DARKGuy<PROTECTED>
16:52.28AckisWorkI think I'd have to reconnect as ackis
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16:52.50Gnarfozyou'd have to identify with nickserv, regardless of your nickname
16:53.55AckisWorkI have them linked
16:54.00AckisWorkAckis and AckisWork are on the same account
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16:57.25Gnarfozsure, then just identify?
16:57.44AckisWorkI is identified
16:57.57AckisWorkNickServYou are already logged in as Ackis.
16:58.44SunTsu.o0( That's why I set the option to get my memos mailed ;) )
16:58.54Gnarfozwell, then /msg memoserv help should work, shouldn't it :\
16:58.58Gnarfozunless freenode is weird
16:59.18GnarfozI dunno what services they use, actually, are they anope/epona based?
16:59.45AckisWorkI couldn't figure out how to do that
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17:01.32Zenomso what do you guys think is going to be "THE" class in wotlk (besides death knight)
17:01.53Fisker-death knight
17:02.08Gnarfozthere is no "the" class right now, I don't think there will be one in wotlk
17:02.36DARKGuyAckisWork: LOL
17:02.37Zenomwell there always tends to be one that is favored more
17:02.41DARKGuykicks AckisWork xD
17:02.42AckisWorklol :D
17:02.54Zenomlike prot paladins it seems are the "it" class
17:02.55AckisWorkwishes he could kick Ackis-
17:02.59DARKGuyahah
17:03.00Zenomat least on my server anyway
17:03.03AckisWorkwtb mirc exploit to disconnect a client :(
17:03.05DARKGuykicks Ackis-
17:03.13DARKGuyyou can use ghost in nickserv
17:03.16DARKGuyI think it'll work?
17:03.20AckisWorkI don't have ackis- registered
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17:03.29DARKGuylulz.
17:03.43DARKGuyask somebody to kick it
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17:06.21Zenomanyway my question was because im just trying to figure out which class to play :)
17:06.22Zenomkeep on with one of my 70's or level my 60's to 70
17:06.22AckisWorkfroglok jedi
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17:20.15gixdoes anyone know an inventory mod that shows items as a list of item names, and uses virtual stack sizes?
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17:29.45CIA-4403trasher * r77100 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua:
17:29.45CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
17:29.45CIA-44- frFR update
17:30.13MaedasHey, anyone here could help me with an issue with WoWace Updater?
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17:36.25CIA-4403ackis * r77101 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua:
17:36.25CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
17:36.26CIA-44- Thistle tea is now flagged as BoP
17:36.26CIA-44- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
17:37.02Arrowmaster~emulate ackis
17:37.03purli drive a mini-can
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17:37.24Arrowmaster~emulate ackis
17:37.24purli drive a mini-can
17:37.24durcynspam protection, you see
17:37.34Arrowmasterwho changed it
17:38.22AckisWorkI typoed my mini-van one day
17:40.38Arrowmasterwho the fuck drives a mini-van anymore?
17:40.47AckisWorkme
17:40.52AckisWorkget in the van, I have candy
17:40.59AckisWorkand I'll steal your hellgate london code too :P
17:41.14Arrowmasterthose are suppost to be real vans not mini-vans
17:41.23CIA-4403trasher * r77102 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua:
17:41.23CIA-44AtlasLoot:
17:41.23CIA-44- frFR update
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17:41.43Arrowmasterfail
17:42.40AckisWorkif I had a hellgate london code I wouldn't fail! :P
17:42.43AckisWorksee what I did there? roflz
17:43.07durcynyou must not have much to do at work.
17:43.25AckisWorkI'm multi-tasking
17:43.32AckisWorkI've just solved the answer to world peace
17:43.38AckisWorkbut my pc crashed and I lost the doc
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17:47.33CIA-4403lahow * r77103 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (Cartographer_QuestInfo.toc QuestLogPatch.lua):
17:47.33CIA-44Cartographer_QuestInfo:
17:47.33CIA-44- add Cartographer_Notes to OptionalDeps
17:47.33CIA-44- fix a minor problem when expand quest zone in quest log
18:06.31OzguliAoC advertise in the WAU >_>
18:07.41Gnarfozso?
18:07.58Fisker-your mother Gnarfoz
18:08.04Gnarfoznot home
18:08.09AckisWorkshe's at my place
18:08.12Fisker-your mother Gnarfoz
18:08.25GnarfozAckisWork: good riddance, I say^^
18:08.37AckisWorkyou're going to have a brother or sister
18:08.40AckisWorkwait...
18:08.47AckisWorkyou can't get pregoes from the pooper can you?
18:08.48AckisWork:P
18:10.34Gnarfozyou do like older women, dont you ;>
18:10.51AckisWorkwho deosn't?
18:10.57DashkalNah, he's just a dirty old man himself...
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18:38.51Primermounts at 30...hrmm
18:38.58PrimerI wonder if they can dumb the game down any more
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18:39.11Primermy kid's gonna be thrilled though
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18:40.10Megalonperhaps in 2.4.4 your professions will automatically level to lvl*5 on lvlups ;P
18:40.20buuThat would save a lot of effort.
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18:43.36Funkeh`my alts will be thrilled
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18:43.47Funkeh`i was disapointed it was the lvl 40 dograded to 30
18:43.55Funkeh`i thought it would be a new slower than 40 riding
18:43.59Funkeh`that would be cool
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18:44.36AckisWorkFunkeh`: that's how it sounded to me when I first read it
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18:47.03FtH|DaemonaPrimer it will make desolace a much nicer place ;)
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18:55.35Nechcknpardon... where are y'all reading this stuff?
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18:57.43Zyndrometosses Nechckn a fortune cookie *crack* oboy the note has an URL written down : http://www.worldofraids.com/news/152.html
18:58.07Nechcknmmmmmm cookies!
18:58.08DashkalMounts at 30 won't make my life "easier", just quicker.  There's nothing "challenging" about running from one side of desolace to the other
18:58.16Nechcknmany thanks Zyndrome
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18:59.33AckisWorkDashkal: in stv there is
18:59.59DashkalStay on the road?
19:00.08AckisWorkpvp?
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19:00.19DashkalThere are exactly two mobs that'll get you, two apes half-way down
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19:00.35Dashkal60% speed != immune to CC
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19:01.08Dashkaland the only "pvp" that goes on in that zone is 70 vs 30
19:01.25AckisWorkyou can get from one end of the zone to the other faster, which limits the danger time
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19:02.01Dashkalthat's a flawwed metric.  It's distance that matters, not time
19:02.10DashkalYou have to pass all the same mobs
19:02.15Dashkalor players
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19:02.59AckisWorkplayers move around hunting
19:03.08AckisWorkyou're assuming players are static spawns when they aren't
19:03.51DashkalI assume nothing.  Players hunting for people on the roads will be on the roads
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19:11.00AckisWork~seen ckknight
19:11.24purlckknight is currently on #norganna (1h 50m 35s) #wowuidev (1h 50m 35s) #wowace (1h 50m 35s) #curseforge (1h 50m 35s). Has said a total of 21 messages. Is idling for 46s, last said: 'kitteh needz hugz tiem nao!'.
19:11.24ckknightAckisWork: dude, you saw me speak in the other channel.
19:11.24AckisWorkI just wanted your comment to be shared over here
19:11.28AckisWorkthere we go
19:11.39ckknightlol
19:13.00Pkekyo|g'mornin ladies
19:13.27Pkekyo|managed to graduate after all
19:13.38Kuosio/
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19:25.01p3lim|awayCan ClearFocus() be used in an event?
19:25.11nevcairielnot in combat
19:25.30p3lim|awaytrying this one on PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED: if UnitIsDead("focus") then ClearFocus() end
19:26.00p3lim|awaypossible?
19:27.55nevcairielthat would probably work
19:28.03nevcairielbecause P_R_E is the end of combat
19:28.56p3lim|awayhm lets test
19:29.07p3lim|awaycause that removes the only failure with the focus target
19:30.01p3lim|awaynope, got blocked
19:31.09p3lim|awayI think ClearFocus() is protected (has to be clicked by a button/key)
19:34.13p3lim|awayshame :/
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19:40.46DARKGuyHey, anybody knows what is the new game that Blizz is going to release soon? =p
19:41.05profalbertDARKGuy: SC2?
19:41.28AckisWorkWotLK?
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19:41.42DARKGuyNo idea :( they say they're gonna release a new one in the Worldwide invitational 2008
19:42.03DARKGuys/release/announce/
19:42.45profalbertoh announce
19:43.39DARKGuy<.< my guess it could be Diablo3, considering Vivendi had made Hellgate London before o_o
19:44.15AckisWorkdon't talk about Hellgate london, Arrowmaster is being mean :P
19:44.22Arrowmasterhuh?
19:44.31AckisWorklol :P
19:44.33Arrowmasteroh
19:44.35DARKGuylol AckisWork
19:44.47DARKGuybut Arrowmaster is nice!
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19:44.54DARKGuyAt least I think he is :$
19:44.57Matrix110|Will be Diablo 3 prolly or their mysterious MMO
19:45.07DARKGuy<.< which MMO? :O
19:45.22Matrix110|Well they searched developers for a NEW MMO sometime
19:45.25AckisWorkWoSC
19:45.31Matrix110|specialised in smth
19:45.31AckisWorkor WoWoW
19:45.34Matrix110|non wow specific
19:45.35DARKGuyThat'd be spexy
19:45.38DARKGuy*smexy
19:45.52Matrix110|and they have 1 unannounced game
19:45.59Matrix110|so rumours are its a MMO
19:46.40Matrix110|something totally new would be nice aswell
19:46.41Matrix110|!
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19:46.56Matrix110|SC shooter
19:47.02Matrix110|oh wiat that failed already :P
19:47.23ArrowmasterXFP3-JR78-LHPI-........... oh wait
19:47.26|ncubuswell, an MMO these days takes like 4 years to develop at the bare minimum.
19:47.56Matrix110|wow was announced like 3 years before release :P
19:47.58Natherulanyone got any tip for a warlock addon with announcement for healthstone summon and stuff and soulstone tracking?
19:48.11Matrix110|macros
19:48.11Aens|SuperiorityMatrix110|: and it had been under development for long before the announcement
19:48.36Aens|Superiorityeither way, wotlk will be at the end of it's life cycle by the time the new blizz mmo would be ready at earliest.
19:48.42Matrix110|yes Aens|Superiority but the mysterious Ga,e is in development for over 1year already
19:49.35NatherulMatrix110 that does not include soulstone tracking
19:50.07Fisker-It's Diablo 3
19:50.12Fisker-no discussion
19:50.29Fisker-http://diablo3.com/ <-proof
19:50.50Arrowmasterlol
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19:55.51Fisker-ya hear me?
19:57.53Fisker-slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout
19:57.58Fisker-ain't laughing now are ya?
19:59.55Fisker-slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout
20:00.00AckisWorkFisker-: why did you want to kill me?
20:00.16Fisker-i dunno
20:00.20Fisker-i am so violent :(
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20:05.05Fisker-slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout
20:05.11AckisWork:P
20:07.39Natherulanyone got any tip for a warlock addon with announcement for healthstone summon and stuff and soulstone tracking?
20:08.10profalbertNatherul: soulstone-tracking -> FuBar_SoulJarFu
20:09.06Natherulso that will keep track on the time left on soulstone and stuff when its on others
20:09.30profalbertNatherul: it keeps track of all soulstones
20:09.37profalbertand their duration
20:09.48DARKGuyFisker- is always violent
20:09.58DARKGuythinks Fisker- is from germany
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20:11.25profalbertNatherul: for announcing Ritual of Souls I use a macro
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20:12.51Natherulprofalbert: thanks
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20:50.28CIA-4403apoco * r77104 10RBM_Sunwell/ (Kiljaeden.lua locales/enUS.lua):
20:50.28CIA-44RBM_Sunwell:
20:50.28CIA-44--Adjusted Bloom detection slightly. Should be much more accurate now.
20:50.28CIA-44--Added support for class coloring.
20:50.50DARKGuyWell, fsck Virgin.
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20:58.40AckisWorkhmm does power infusion stack with drums/bloodlust/beserking/trinkets?
20:59.19digmousedoes anyone use Trinity 2 here?
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21:01.26CIA-4403StiviS * r77105 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-esES.lua:
21:01.26CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
21:01.26CIA-44- esES updated
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21:02.18ZealotOnAStick!seen sylvanaar
21:02.20CIA-4403apoco * r77106 10RBM_Config/ (Config.lua Locales/enUS.lua):
21:02.20CIA-44RBM_Config:
21:02.20CIA-44-Change: Custom alert frame options will now always be shown
21:02.20CIA-44-Change: "Test Warnings" setting has been moved to "Alert options"
21:02.20CIA-44-New: Icon Size: Change the size of alerted icon's
21:02.20CIA-44-New: Class Colors: Attempt to color all player names in alerts with their proper class color.
21:02.22CIA-44-Localization Update: 4 new strings: "Icon Size", "Adjust the size of icons that are sent through the alert system.", "Class Colors", "Color player names in alert messages with their class color."
21:02.33ZealotOnAStickWhen did Diao become a bot?
21:02.43Diaonever
21:02.47Diaoit's just a script
21:02.48Diaolol
21:02.53Arrowmaster!seen sylvanaar
21:03.02Apoco~seen sylvanaar
21:03.20purlsylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 20h 20m 2s ago, saying: 'there is an entire universe of asp.net design patterns'.
21:03.20Apocofail
21:03.25Apocothere we go
21:10.12CIA-4403apoco * r77107 10RBM/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
21:10.12CIA-44RBM:
21:10.12CIA-44-New: Added support for alert class coloring
21:10.13CIA-44-New: Added support for changing alert icon size
21:10.13CIA-44-Change: Removed some parsing from the Boss Announce method and added it to ShowAlert. (Skulls, class colors, etc) will now apply to all alert messages not just boss mods.
21:10.16CIA-44-Fix: Bug where alert sounds would still go off when you have alerts turned off.
21:10.18CIA-44-Optimized: Optimized the alert parsing a bit
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21:35.52p3lim|awaywnyone knows an item that has the same Icon as Arcane Explosion?
21:36.44Funkeh`why does it need to be an item
21:37.22p3lim|awaycause i cant get a spell's icon to show in a macro with #show spell:id
21:37.33p3lim|away'#show item:id' works
21:37.46Funkeh`um, just modify the icon out of the game
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21:38.48Gnarfozeven better than that
21:38.52Gnarfozif you use #show
21:39.01Gnarfozyou could just as well PICK the icon from the icon chooser.
21:39.07Gnarfoz=D
21:39.24Funkeh`why do you need to use show to pick the icon
21:39.29HjalteIs there anywhere online where I can see how much crit rating I get from intellect?
21:39.35p3lim|awaywell thats not working with me
21:39.42Dirtieis this the place to make a suggestion for an omen feature?
21:39.47p3lim|awayits an addon with generated macros
21:40.15Gnarfozcan't you set the macro icon, anyway?
21:40.18p3lim|awayGnarfoz: http://ninjas-n-things.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/gMacro/gMacro.lua
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21:40.58GnarfozIHML uses #show too, but only because the macros contain actual items rather than spells
21:41.12Gnarfozactually
21:41.21Gnarfozyour gMacro seems to do just what IHML already does
21:41.33Gnarfozalbeit probably in a minimally slimmer way
21:41.33p3lim|awaynot mine though, im just forking it
21:41.54p3lim|awayYeah it is basically that, a slimmed down IHML
21:42.10Funkeh`no you didn't
21:42.11GnarfozI don't get why people don't use a working solution and instead create one that does less ;D
21:42.20Funkeh`you removed features and claimed it was slimmer
21:42.32p3lim|awayits still not my addon
21:42.35Gnarfozheh
21:42.56GnarfozIHML has to be one of my favorite addons, functionality-wise, since the advent of daily quests ;>
21:43.04p3lim|awayYup
21:43.22Funkeh`But it has a config, so it needs to be forked to reduce memory usage
21:43.23p3lim|awayIm just trying this one out for a day or two :)
21:43.38HjalteGnarfoz: Agree, it's great. I love it for raid bosses as well.
21:43.56GnarfozFunkeh`: obviously! ;) static memory usage is the devil ;P
21:43.58profalber1I also have a lot of boss-specific macros
21:43.59charonDirtie: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/OMEN -- but if you want to see it get past the "suggestion" stage, write it yourself
21:44.03Dirtieis there a reason im not getting my confirmation email after registering on the wiki?
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21:44.14p3lim|awayFunkeh`: nothing wrong with configs, really, im just testing out some addon i found on tha intranet
21:44.54Funkeh`p3lim|away, np, i'm just generally venting a the attitude of some people that claim they are mod authors but just ripped an addon removed it's config and sell it as better sice it uses less memory
21:45.03Funkeh`an attitude that's spreading like the plague
21:45.22Gnarfozprofalber1: btw ;) did you have a look at the combat event changes for 2.4.3? there's probably some stuff affecting parrot in there. also, I noticed something I wanted to fix (even opened the correct file already) but then I forgot what it was xD
21:45.49profalber1Gnarfoz: need to get the PTR-client rightaway
21:45.57Funkeh`hopefully they fixed the stuff in the brokeness thread
21:46.06profalber1as soon as i'm done playing
21:46.09p3lim|awayI make my addons without savedvariables / configs cause i make the addons for me, and its easier to keep two interface folders shared over SVN than two WTF folders with diffrent resolutions etc (when sharing same interface between my 2 comps)
21:46.13Funkeh`i was pointing zoot to it like a kid pointing to a candy store
21:46.22Gnarfozprofalber1: I can forward you a diff of the UI code, you can figure it out from there probably. (testing probably needs the PTR client anyway, though)
21:46.34GnarfozFunkeh`: point me to it, too? curious
21:46.38Dirtiecharon, i'm not a developer, but I just wanted to suggest being able to target the mobs by clicking on their names in AOE mode
21:46.41Dirtieis this possible?
21:46.44Gnarfozno it's not
21:46.44charonno.
21:46.53Funkeh`Gnarfoz, it's in the code discussion forum, 2nd page
21:46.56Gnarfozthose are not secure frames and won't ever be. it's just not practical
21:47.15charoneven if they were secure frames, that would defeat the sorting. so it's not even possible.
21:47.17p3lim|awayAnd I really just want it for some bosses.. my fork: http://wow-p3lim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/pMacro/pMacro.lua
21:47.37Dirtiealright :( was just thinking how much it would help me out with hyjal tanking :P
21:47.41Dirtiebut no problem
21:47.50Gnarfozp3lim|away: you'd acheive the same by removing the unwanted macros from ihml ;)
21:47.55charonyeah i know... tabbing through mobs till you find the lowest one sucks
21:48.01GnarfozDirtie: get magictargets, I think it can do that? :)
21:48.06p3lim|awayNo gnarfoz, read what i just said
21:48.13p3lim|awayI have two comps with a shared interface
21:48.29Funkeh`you can sync wtf folders
21:48.29Gnarfozah, I didn't read that line
21:48.32Funkeh`across a network
21:48.38p3lim|awayeasier to keep two interface folders syncronized than wtf folders (damn resolutions etc)
21:49.04Funkeh`it's the exact same dude
21:49.05p3lim|awayI have diffrent resolutions and video settings etc on my laptops (due its shittyness)
21:49.22p3lim|awayWell Ive already done it like this for about a year now and Im sticking to it :p
21:49.27Funkeh`and why would that affect the way you view your addons?
21:49.29AckisWorkthat's the config.wtf file only
21:49.40AckisWorksync the rest of the files and just skip that one
21:49.41Funkeh`I'm not saying change your way, i'm saying don't state wrong facts
21:49.42breserrysnc and exclude config.wtf
21:50.11p3lim|awayi dont even know how to sync through network :p
21:50.14charonside note: the jira page for omen gives a fairly grim and accurate description of the amount of time that goes into it
21:50.34Funkeh`charon, i don't think Antiarc really reads it anyway ;p
21:50.45GnarfozFunkeh`: did you read the UI diff for 2.4.3? I think at least the two issues in the first post are fixed
21:50.53AntiarcI keep on top of it. I'm just uh, stupidly busy.
21:50.55Funkeh`nope, not had the time yet
21:51.05Gnarfozthere's SPELL_AURA_REFRESH now
21:51.11Funkeh`HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
21:51.14charonhuh. i woke the grand master. what did i do? *scared*
21:51.15Gnarfozindeed
21:51.19Gnarfozonly took them a few years
21:51.26Funkeh`ONLY SINCE ALPHA
21:51.26AntiarcI'm around. >_>
21:51.34AntiarcJust working 100+ hours/week
21:51.40Lee|PCCircuit:( Antiarc ;p
21:51.46charonouch
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21:51.53AntiarcIt's good though :)
21:51.59Funkeh`that's going to make things so much easier for dots timers
21:52.07Lee|PCCircuitfunkeh, pm? :D
21:52.10ChompersAntiarc!
21:52.14Chompershello thar
21:52.22AntiarcSee, this is why I mostly lurk, because if I speak 90 people want to talk to me! :D
21:52.24AntiarcBut hi.
21:53.07GnarfozFunkeh`: also, +ACTION_SPELL_AURA_BROKEN_SPELL_DEBUFF_FULL_TEXT = "$source's $spell was broken by $dest's $extraSpell.";     but I can just guess that that works now.
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21:53.51Gnarfozah no
21:53.54Gnarfozthe actual interesting part is
21:53.58Gnarfozthere's +ACTION_SPELL_AURA_BROKEN_DEBUFF_FULL_TEXT = "$source's $spell was broken by $dest.";   too
21:54.04laegfor the purposes of demoralizing shout which reduces AP, is there a mod which will identify for me if a shammy is enhancement or a pala resto who i'm told it is useful against?
21:54.04Gnarfozso one for spells, one for melee swings
21:54.11laegat the moment i just use it on warriors and rogues
21:54.13AckisWorkAntiarc: stop lurking and less people will want to talk to you
21:54.32laegi'm told hunter AP is different so it's wasted on them
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21:54.32Gnarfozlaeg: just TalentGuess-1.0, I guess.
21:54.33AntiarcI'm doubtful of that! :P
21:54.50Gnarfozlaeg: also, you can't identify enhance shamans or holy pala
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21:55.04Gnarfoz(btw, no such thing as resto pally ;P)
21:55.10AckisWorklook at me, I'm always talking and I don't have people who want to talk to me ever :P
21:55.17AntiarcHahah
21:55.27GnarfozAckisWork: that must be because no one uses your drycoded heap of dung! :p
21:55.48AckisWorktrue
21:55.52Gnarfozactually, I know of several people in my guild using it before I even pointed it out to them ^^
21:55.52AckisWorkarl = shit imo
21:55.53AckisWork:P
21:55.57cubicoolHey, does anyone know if something like this is possible: "/castsequence reset=1 heal, stopcasting" The point being if I press the key quickly twice that is jukes a heal, otherwise casts it?
21:56.11Gnarfozstopcasting is not a spell
21:56.13Gnarfozso, no
21:56.17AckisWorkyou should fix it for me Gnarfoz
21:56.20laegGnarfoz: i googled for talent guess, did you mean i should guess? :)
21:56.24cubicoolRight, but, is there any way to achieve a similar affect w/ one key?
21:56.25GnarfozAckisWork: *I* don't use it ;)
21:56.38AckisWorkwow what's wrong with you?
21:56.42AckisWork:P
21:56.47Gnarfozlaeg: no, its just a misnamed addon, otherwise I'd have said LibTalentGuess-1.0, but it's not named like that
21:57.09Gnarfozlaeg: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8990-LibTalentGuess-1.0.html
21:57.27Gnarfozironically, I thinkt the folder inside the zip is still called TalentGuess-1.0 instead of Lib*
22:00.46GnarfozFunkeh`: that thread is full of things that should be fixed (and some actually seem rather trivial to fix, too) - did anyone link to it or repost it on the U.S. UI forums?
22:01.05Gnarfozalso, does anyone know if they fixed AutoMacro, yet?
22:01.20digmouseapoco:ping
22:01.29Gnarfozinformation suppressal seemed to have worked well, they acted swiftly, and no major public discussion was started about it
22:02.46digmousekill automacro
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22:06.00Funkeh`Gnarfoz, broke?
22:06.11GnarfozFunkeh`: hum?
22:06.23Funkeh`you mentioned spell breaking
22:06.32Azurewratherm... am i blind or are there no keybinding options for bt4?
22:06.41Funkeh`Azurewrath, /kb
22:06.47Gnarfozah. yeah, dispelling of auras, SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED is gone
22:06.48Azurewrathahh..
22:07.03Funkeh`replaced?
22:07.09GnarfozS_A_BROKE and S_A_BROKE_SPELL seem to replace it
22:07.40Funkeh`is that the actual name/
22:07.44Gnarfozgoddamnit I'm inaccurate, but you get the idea.
22:07.45Gnarfozheh
22:08.36GnarfozFunkeh`: http://ace.pastey.net/89742 it's right at the top
22:09.34Funkeh`they basically renamed dispel to break
22:09.57Funkeh`i wonder if they renamed the spells too, lol, mass break
22:09.58Gnarfozyeah
22:10.01Gnarfozlol
22:11.24GnarfozFunkeh`: no, further down, there still is ACTION_SPELL_DISPEL_*
22:11.38Gnarfozit's just ACTION_SPELL_AURA_DISPEL_* that's gone
22:11.47Gnarfozwhatever kind of distinction that is
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22:12.45CIA-44RBM_Config:
22:12.45CIA-44-zhCN update
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22:13.07CIA-44-zhCN update
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22:16.08p3lim|awayno wonder the textures didnt work, they didnt update due a faulty code from Ganders
22:18.22laegGnarfoz: sweet. there's a link in the desciption of LibTalentGuess-1.0 to "API can be found at http://www.wowwiki.com/TalentGuess" but wowwiki says their site is experiencing difficulties, is it required for the former to run?
22:19.02laegmaybe API is a GUI
22:20.25laegalso theirs talk in the comments page of wowinterface about using it to inspect opposing factions, i'm hoping with this addon it will instantly alert me to a pvp targets spec
22:21.45vithosyou can't inspect cross faction in pvp anymore, libtalentguess watches for the use of talented spells i believe
22:22.27laegwell i wouldn't have time to inspect :)
22:22.43laegi'm hoping it can guess a spec based on the targets cast spells
22:23.05laegi want it purely for pvp to know whether or not to use demoralizing shout on any class i face apart from warriors and rogues
22:23.19laegoh an ferral droods
22:23.31vithosaddons used to inspect for you on mouseover
22:23.38vithosto get the talents
22:23.44Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PNqXhYiQuM
22:24.16Azurewrathis anyone using Aloft? It does not display any text anymore for me, only the health/poly/cast bars..
22:24.50GnarfozAzurewrath: I am, but I don't know why that would be. it normally displays ## invalid tag ## if something is wrong
22:25.30Azurewrathnope.. it simply displays no text.. guess ill try an option reset.. changed nothing though that would have caused that
22:25.38laegvithos - even on opposing class when not in a neutral city?
22:25.42Gnarfozlaeg: it'll make the best guess it can (hence the name) but as I said earlier, it probably can't detect enhance shaman from other specs and not holy paladins from other specs palas
22:25.45laegAntiarc: ray ramano pwns :)
22:26.14laegGnarfoz: nps, i'll check it out anyway. maybe it's time i learnt lua, i have ideas for things that a mod could improve on :)
22:26.16Gnarfozlaeg: between 2.3 and 2.4, you could inspect anyone's talents, at any time, anywhere.
22:26.21laegoh
22:26.28laegi thought only since latest patch
22:26.32Gnarfozno
22:26.38laegthat is, only since then could you inspect at all and that was only in cities
22:26.39Gnarfozthey reduced it to sane restrictions ^^
22:26.47Gnarfozbut that was just a stupid oversight in the first place
22:26.52laegi never tried to inspect someone trying to kill me or who i was trying to kill brother :)
22:26.58Gnarfozprobable course of events:
22:28.00Gnarfoz'hey let's add talents to inspect' - 'sure, why not' ... later ... 'whoops, horde can inspect alliance through mods!' - 'but but but,... oh well, the default UI doesn't allow you to inspect alliance *at all* so we didn't think checks for something like that were necessary' ;D
22:28.01Azurewrathnope.. reseted the Profile, still no text
22:29.40laegis the reason they don't want opposing factions to be able to inspect each other outside of cities, which will usually end in pvp, the very reason i want a mod to do it? :D
22:30.02Diaoyes, though i find it kind of pointless
22:30.06laegthat is, so i can identify which attack/spells/procs to use
22:30.11Diaobecause you can pretty much tell what spec someone is from what gear/spells they use
22:30.12chiperbecause you aren't supposed to know what spec they are
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22:30.31laegdiao, i would like to know whether my demoralizing shout reducing AP will be wasted on certain build shamans and palas
22:30.45Diaoit's pretty obvious
22:30.53Diaowhen you see a paladin or shaman with 7-8k mana or less
22:30.57Diaoand using a 2h or dw
22:31.02Diaothen you should demo shout
22:31.09laegwell my main is 63 which i haven't played for awhile and i'm pvping with a level 19 for the next few das
22:31.16Diaooh
22:31.21Diaolol
22:31.23Diaoat 70 with enough experience
22:31.25laeghang on, i'm just reading what you said :)
22:31.29Diaoit's very easy to tell when to use what abilities
22:31.55laegyes but i want to know for level 19s :)
22:32.02laegok back to wsg, ty for the unput guys
22:32.05Gnarfozwell, specs don't matter much there, do they
22:32.12laegwell demoralizing shout does
22:32.18laegright now i only use on warrios and rogues
22:32.25laegbecause i know it is useful
22:32.28Gnarfozobviously, but just check out what talents classes have available to them at those levels
22:32.33laegbut i'm told it's good on some palas and some shammys
22:32.45Gnarfozpalas got a +5% str talent in tier 1
22:33.04Gnarfozshaman... don't think there's anything crucial in either of the trees
22:33.38Gnarfozno, nothing there
22:34.01Gnarfozand if they want to melee or magic you, should be pretty obvious at first glance from their equip choice ;)
22:34.34Diaomost shaman twinks are 20-29
22:34.36Diaofor ghost wolf
22:34.39Snagop3lim|away: I took a look at pMacro and couldn't resist optimizing it :P
22:34.43Snagop3lim|away: http://ace.pastey.net/89744
22:35.00p3lim|awayanti-table eh?
22:35.08Snagoyea
22:35.22p3lim|awaystill, your code there is faulty :)
22:35.42p3lim|awayframe.EVENT not frame:EVENT
22:36.05Snagop3lim|away: where?
22:36.19p3lim|awayall 3 event functions
22:36.31Snagono
22:36.48Snagoit's :
22:37.17Snagoor: function frame.EVENT(self, ...)
22:37.22p3lim|awayhow come the whole addon hung itself using : but when i used . it worked perfectly
22:39.44SnagoOnly changing : to . will break stuff as the P_E_W function uses self
22:39.48AzurewrathGnarfoz: ah... it seems to be the strata.. the text is there, but the texture covers it..
22:40.15GnarfozAzurewrath: wtf :> good luck trying to fix that, I've never had that happen to me
22:41.07Gnarfozprofalber1: wtb email-address for UI diff
22:41.16p3lim|awaySnago: i swapped P_E_W for PLAYER_LOGIN
22:41.28Snagop3lim|away: Also, this addon might need a /rl after making a new or renaming a macro since the macro index might change
22:41.28Azurewrathwtf... when i set the Health Bar Alpha to 0 i can see the text, but there is another health-bar below.. colored in some weird blue-greenish color
22:41.40Snagop3lim|away: makes sense
22:41.55p3lim|awayAs I said earlier, its just a fork that i started on
22:42.06p3lim|awayheres the original: http://ninjas-n-things.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/gMacro/gMacro.lua
22:42.57Snagop3lim|away: Whos repo is that?
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22:46.36SnagoMy eyes hurt from seeing such unoptimized "slimmed down" code :(
22:47.25Funkeh`Snago, like i said earlier, 'slimmed down' are never real coders :)
22:47.42Funkeh`it's like grabbing a product changing its color and reseling it as your own
22:49.18Funkeh`from addons that i've seen on wowi of slimmed down versions of other addons, in 90% of cases the 'heavier' addons are more efficient
22:50.12p3lim|awaySnago: latest rev http://wow-p3lim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/pMacro/
22:50.25SnagoIt's not IHML code. Only the same idea. But I don't see the reason for putting all variables in an extra table..
22:50.59Snagop3lim|away: Better :)
22:51.21Funkeh`god damnit names your damn frames
22:51.33Snagop3lim|away: But seriously... addon:PLAYER_LOGIN didn't work? :S
22:51.56p3lim|awaywhat you mean "didnt work" ?
22:51.56SnagoFunkeh`: Why?
22:52.10Funkeh`so that debugging functions aren't completely useless
22:52.15Snagop3lim|away: you said it hung using :
22:52.19Funkeh`such as GetFramesRegisteredForEvent
22:52.24p3lim|awayyeah
22:53.02Snagothat's weird
22:53.03p3lim|awayaddon.EVENT(...) works, not addon:EVENT(...)
22:53.28p3lim|awaycause in the setscript, self[event]
22:54.20Funkeh`don't use self
22:54.32SnagoI thought addon:EVENT(...) was exactly the same as addon.EVENT(self, ...)
22:54.32Funkeh`addon[event](addon, ...)
22:54.46Funkeh`then : will work
22:55.11p3lim|awayanything bad with . tho?
22:55.36p3lim|away. and : is diffrent
22:55.48p3lim|awayatleast i think so
22:56.14Funkeh`no it's not bad
22:56.17Funkeh`it's just uglier
22:56.20Funkeh`(imo)
22:56.28p3lim|away:p
22:56.31Funkeh`why (self, ...)
22:56.31Funkeh`after every function when you don't use the args?
22:56.33p3lim|awaypersonal choice then,  ill stick with .
22:56.55p3lim|awayi just put it there while tinkering with it
22:56.59p3lim|awayhavent cleaned up yet
22:57.03Funkeh`ok
22:57.30Funkeh`also your optimizations are premature
22:57.33Funkeh`local X= X
22:57.42Funkeh`they are not called often enough to be justified
22:58.58SnagoI only local X = X'd the functions in the PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED and ZONE_CHANGED, I think that's justified
22:59.17Funkeh`zone changed? are you a traveling slaesman?
22:59.22Funkeh`salesman
22:59.28SnagoIt's still at least 2 table lookups less per event
22:59.40Funkeh`which you do once in a blue moon
22:59.48Funkeh`why add the extra memory usage to the addon
23:00.06Snagomemory = cheaper than cpu cycles :P
23:00.18ZealotOnAStickHey, general channel full of people . . . have I don't anything to particularly make any of you hate me, or been any particular embodiment of evil?  
23:00.22p3lim|away*cough* my laptop sucks
23:00.26Funkeh`no, the memory usage can't be justified by how much it's called
23:00.38SnagoThat's your opinion
23:00.41Funkeh`we're talking miliseconds here for goodness sake
23:00.47Funkeh`no, it's a developers opinion
23:00.53Funkeh`it's called premature optimization
23:00.58Hjalte~seen jerry
23:01.00purljerry <n=root@202.74.105.113> was last seen on IRC in channel #, 244d 20h 18m 14s ago, saying: 'MSG GreaseMonkey hi.'.
23:01.00Funkeh`and too many coders do it
23:01.29Funkeh`player target changed i would agree with
23:01.30Funkeh`no change zone changed
23:01.38Funkeh`chance*
23:02.21SnagoOk, so now you're arguing about one extra local? :P
23:02.43Funkeh`no, i'm arguing about premature optimization >>
23:03.28ZealotOnASticks/don't/done/
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23:04.04Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick, eh?
23:04.36SnagoZealotOnAStick: Some people just don't like zealots...
23:04.50ZealotOnAStickClearly, they haven't tried them on sticks.
23:04.58JJSheetslol
23:05.06Funkeh`lol
23:06.34ZealotOnAStickFunkeh`, just wanted to not be blindsided for some of my upcoming work if there's a particular evil I've perpetrated I didn't notice.
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23:07.24ZealotOnAStickbrb
23:07.25Gnarfozso... you're practically asking beforehand if someone already hates you enough right now to make them lash out at you for whatever you're planning to do soon?
23:07.44ZealotOnAStickExactly!
23:07.50Gnarfozyou're weird
23:07.51Gnarfoz;p
23:07.52ZealotOnAStickGet it over with.
23:07.54ZealotOnASticksorted out.
23:08.09ZealotOnAStickthen mug their poodles.
23:09.14Gnarfozdrugs are bad, mkay
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23:13.36p3lim|awaywhat event goes off first? ADDON_LOADED or PLAYER_LOGIN?
23:13.54Snagop3lim|away: ADDON_LOADED
23:13.59NM|XinhuanArmory says [The Skull of Gul'dan] has a "Low (15% - 24%)" drop rate
23:14.02p3lim|awayait
23:14.12Snagop3lim|away: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process
23:14.19Xinhuanwho wants to call bullshit on that ;p
23:15.06Stanzilla<
23:15.11Stanzilla3 skulls in a row
23:15.23Xinhuanslaps Stanzilla away with a large trout
23:15.26Xinhuango away
23:15.29Stanzilla<3
23:15.44p3lim|awayI know paladins that has it
23:15.55Funkeh`p3lim|away, http://pastebin.com/dbcb6844
23:15.56buubotFunkeh`: The paste dbcb6844 has been copied to http://erxz.com/pb/10061
23:16.06Funkeh`say what?
23:16.16Gnarfozlol
23:16.22Xinhuanmy guild hasn't even seen a single illidan heal cloak drop
23:16.36ZealotOnAStickWe've seen enough we've had a mage take it for spell haste.
23:16.49Funkeh`buu, wtf is that
23:16.53Xinhuanits actually an upgrade, assuming the mage doesn't have council cloak or kaelthas one
23:16.54ZealotOnAStickwe've only seen exactly 2 warglaives . . .
23:17.01Apocodigmouse: pong
23:17.09Gnarfozthat's more than what we've seen
23:17.14Gnarfozbut... we're still in p4. ;p
23:17.19p3lim|awayFunkeh`: what did you do? except the function at the end
23:17.24ZealotOnASticktattered shroud of antonidas will be my next cloak.
23:17.25Xinhuanp4 is easy :)
23:17.41Gnarfozyeah I dunno, I wasn't there.
23:17.57GnarfozI didn't think we'd manage to actually improve that much in our second row of Illidan tries ever
23:18.00Xinhuani was looking around and a guildie said "sk gaming killed teron gorefiend in 54 seconds"
23:18.01ZealotOnAStickp4 is pretty much all healers and dropping the demons.
23:18.11Gnarfozactuallt it was 1min29sec
23:18.15Gnarfozwith 58k dps oO
23:18.21Xinhuanso howmuch threat does the tank need to generate to hold aggro
23:18.25SnagoFunkeh`: Why make a local reference to UnitName and not to EditMacro? :P
23:18.29ZealotOnAStickthe lock tank?
23:18.35Gnarfozteron has no lock tank
23:18.41Funkeh`p3lim|away, changed your unitname local, removed the useles ones and changed your event script
23:18.53ZealotOnAStickok, I got confused.
23:18.58Gnarfozand: at least 1500tps
23:19.05Gnarfozbecause 3k dps is what the fury warr did
23:19.06p3lim|awayah there i see the UnitName
23:19.10SunTsu~cart3
23:19.11Xinhuanwell 1 min 29 sec means 2 heroisms fit in it almost nicely
23:19.19SunTsu~cartographer3
23:19.20purlit has been said that cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
23:19.21p3lim|awaybut why the event script, aint the one I used good enough?
23:19.22Gnarfozand max threat reduce he'd be at would be 51%
23:19.27SunTsu~botsnack
23:19.27purl:), SunTsu
23:19.31GnarfozXinhuan: http://wowwebstats.com/4o6hhcmy2sbmm?s=7552-7642
23:19.35Gnarfoz6 shaman :\
23:19.41Gnarfozhuntard with 4k dps
23:19.43Xinhuanif you give the MT 2 heroisms would he be able to generate 1500 tps on that?
23:19.50Funkeh`Snago, it's not called as often
23:19.51Gnarfozyeah, he probably would
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23:20.28Funkeh`p3lim|away, when you have an event script with registered events that could potentially trigger often you should use a local function
23:20.43Ackisallo
23:20.49Funkeh`oh no
23:20.54Xinhuanaccording to htat wws Gnarfoz
23:21.04Xinhuanthe tank has 2 bloodlust, 1 misdirect and no heroisms
23:21.33Ackisbloodlust = heroism
23:21.41Gnarfozindeed
23:21.55Funkeh`p3lim|away, also i gave your damn frame a name !
23:22.02p3lim|awayhahah
23:22.04Gnarfozalthough I'm alliance, too, that's quite an oversight :p
23:22.18p3lim|awayyeah Im actually going over all my addons giving them names, just for you
23:22.28Funkeh`rofl
23:23.24Snagoaddon:SetScript("OnEvent", forward) with forward being a local is no faster than addon:SetScript("OnEvent", function() stuff() end) and uses more memory! zomg! :P
23:23.53Funkeh`who said it was faster
23:23.59Funkeh`but it probably is
23:24.11Snagos/faster/more optimal/
23:24.18digmouseis there any mod to add SpellID info into the spell tooltip?
23:24.35p3lim|awayyea
23:24.40digmouseso?
23:24.57digmousethe name?
23:25.01p3lim|awayI know i saw an addon the other day, cant remember
23:25.17digmouseuh, where? on ace or?
23:25.32p3lim|awayNo, not ace
23:25.40p3lim|awayMight have been a private SVN or something
23:25.49digmouse:(
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23:25.53SnagoNo, you pass the reference to the function to SetScript. It gets the same reference in both cases. Making a local for it is only needed if you need to call it yourself somewhere else in your code
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23:26.09Ackisnotepad++ is bugging out on me
23:26.17Snagodigmouse: MobSpells
23:26.18digmouseuse EditPlus
23:26.42digmouseO.o? I have that but dont remember MS has that feature
23:26.47Funkeh`Snago, actually it's considered a global function and is called as such
23:26.49Snagodigmouse: nvm
23:26.59Xinhuansnago, 4 bytes of memory versus code readability :)
23:27.00SnagoFunkeh`: no
23:27.08Funkeh`yes
23:27.09digmousejust wanna simply add the id info into the spell's tooltip
23:27.13Funkeh`go test it
23:27.54p3lim|awaydigmouse: ill check my trash can
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23:28.25CIA-44AckisRecipeList:
23:28.25CIA-44- esMX update (copy from esES)
23:28.51p3lim|awayno luck
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23:29.12digmousethx p3lim
23:29.13Funkeh`i hope you're talking about your pc trash can
23:29.30digmouseheh
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23:29.41Funkeh`urg, think I'm going to sleep
23:29.57p3lim|awayi ripped the addon not just apart, but out through the cd drive just to trash it irl
23:30.10Funkeh`lol
23:30.13Funkeh`oh that reminds me
23:30.26Funkeh`my mum stuck a cd in between 2 cd drives the other day
23:30.29Funkeh`instead of in one
23:30.33Funkeh`she called me to get it out
23:30.36p3lim|awayhaha
23:30.40Funkeh`since she had homeworkon it
23:30.52digmousebetween...2?
23:30.53Ackislol
23:30.54Funkeh`apparently the computers down at her place have push in cs
23:31.02p3lim|awayhaha xD
23:31.04Funkeh`so she dind't realise you had to eject the tray
23:31.14Funkeh`ad thought it was the cd slot
23:31.29Funkeh`so i had to remove the case holding the cd players
23:31.35Funkeh`take it apart and remove the cd
23:31.58Xinhuanwouldn't tilting the PC forward have slid the CD out? or was it jammed hard
23:32.05Funkeh`then to top it off afterwards she managed to lean on ctrl as she was scrolling down using the mousewheel
23:32.11Funkeh`which ofc changes size of apps
23:32.23Funkeh`and she was like 'aaarrrg it changed size how do i fix it'
23:32.28Funkeh`<3
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23:34.49Funkeh`nights
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23:35.29SnagoFunkeh`: I did test: http://ace.pastey.net/89745
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23:36.58GnarfozArrowmaster: regarding recently about LFBP-3.0-Mod -- what was it again that was keeping you from merging it to trunk? I forgot :\
23:37.22SnagoFunkeh`: It's called as local :)
23:37.25Arrowmasteri never finished the default config stuff for aceconfig-3.0
23:38.12Gnarfozah, what's that in simpler terms?
23:38.23Funkeh`Snago, that test is invalid
23:38.27Funkeh`since getter is local
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23:38.31Funkeh`but frames are global
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23:39.08ArrowmasterGnarfoz: if you use it you have to create all the stuff in your options table for doing stuff like selecting if the icon is shown the text is shown or if its on the right center or left manually
23:39.21Funkeh`anyway, if you do manage to prove me wrong i'll see in the morning ;p
23:39.28SnagoFunkeh`: The question was not wether getter was treated as local or not it was test1 vs function() end
23:40.16SnagoFunkeh`: Removing local from getter gives the same result
23:40.16GnarfozArrowmaster: err, so addon authors using your branch would currently do that themselves?
23:40.33Arrowmasterif they used anything other than rockconfig yeah
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23:43.04Arrowmasteri need to figure out if its possible to automaticly insert the fubar portion of the options table into an already existing options table or if i need to supply a command that you feed the options table into and it modifies it
23:44.32Arrowmasterand i should probably add a way to use a custom AceGUI gui too
23:46.04Gnarfozhm, I'm not sure I understand it to the full extent, but do you think it's doable and if you're gonna do it anytime in the not so far future? ;)
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23:51.06memeyouwhats the best way to send patches for an addon?  i've been sending over email =/
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23:51.45Gnarfozcontacting the author on IRC? posting a diff/patch on forums? mail.
23:54.16memeyouguess email is best then
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23:54.41profalbertmemeyou: could be that the author abandoned the addon though
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23:55.12memeyouwell they went on to dev a new one, so i'm trying to keep it from being stale
23:55.44memeyoucryolysis 3 or something
23:55.49ben__Hay guys my /equipslot [equipped:Shields] 16 Breeching Comet /equipslot [equipped:Shields] 17 Breeching Comet macro is not working so I want to replace it with an addon; what is the most straightforward way to check for a shield in lua?
23:56.50Gnarfozjust get ItemRack 1.992 ;>
23:56.54GnarfozxD
23:58.23ben__I am using closetgnome for my actual gear and am rather content with it :/

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