IRC log for #wowace on 20080618

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00:06.23CIA-4303arrowmaster * r76973 10Deadened/Modules/agUF.lua: Deadened: note to self, when registering for events in a module its a good idea to embed an events library into that module first
00:07.12CIA-4303morgalm * r76974 10Incubator/Core.lua:
00:07.12CIA-43Incubator:
00:07.12CIA-43- Reverted change due to unforseen timer multiplication
00:07.12CIA-43- Changed Apocalypse Guard to not grouped with other mobs
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00:09.57CIA-4303LordFarlander * r76975 10Stable/ (. Stable.lua Stable.toc embeds.xml localisation.lua):
00:09.57CIA-43Stable:
00:09.57CIA-43- Moved to Rock
00:09.57CIA-43- Options for what can be swapped are all based on the sets in PetAndMountDatabase and no longer hard coded.
00:10.27Arrowmastereww
00:11.42Dark_Elflol
00:11.48Gnarfozthat's new
00:12.01Funkeh`just when you think it can't get better
00:12.11Arrowmasteryou mean worse?
00:12.21Gnarfozthe same ;>
00:12.27Funkeh`Arrowmaster, feeling tired?
00:12.35Gnarfozhttp://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/1/picard-facepalm.jpg
00:13.34Dark_Elfugh deadlybossmods got updated wonder what they stole from bigwigs this time ? lol
00:14.09Funkeh`we stopped caring a long time ago
00:14.18VonhintenHOME`bigwigs needs to steal the BG timers from dbm
00:14.20VonhintenHOME`imo
00:14.44Funkeh`you are a fountain of good ideas
00:14.45Stanzillabigwigs != bg addon
00:15.10Funkeh`Stanzilla, no, i think hes on to something !
00:15.18Stanzillaoh oh!
00:15.29Arrowmasteroh and BigWigs should sync every timer too
00:15.46VonhintenHOME`bottom line, I replaced DBM with BigWigs, and now I'm missing something, discuss.
00:15.52Funkeh`you have the bandwidth why not use it
00:16.03Arrowmasterand display timers only by receiving the sync, that way only one person in the raid needs updated localizations
00:16.11Funkeh`VonhintenHOME`, the 5 million dedicated pvp addons aren't good enough?
00:16.18Gnarfozlike... Capping.
00:16.20laegugh warcraft keeps freezing when the progress bar reaches the end when i try log in
00:16.32laeganyone playing on EU/
00:16.33laeg?
00:16.42Funkeh`Arrowmaster, 2.4 killed the reasoning behind that
00:16.45laegbrb
00:16.53Arrowmaster</sarcasm>
00:17.01Funkeh`i'm just stating in general
00:17.08Funkeh`why it's more laughable
00:17.29Arrowmasterwas waiting for somebody to mention the DBM 'feature' of disabling BG timers only to have them impossible to remove because of other people broadcasting them
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00:18.29Funkeh`it's possible, you need to load the entire addon to stop them
00:18.40VonhintenHOME`is Capping decent?
00:18.44Arrowmasteryes
00:18.44VonhintenHOME`anything better?
00:18.51Funkeh`dbm, redefining the reason of disabling since ??
00:19.03Funkeh`reason=meaning
00:19.17durcyncapping is workable, it really needs to be rewritten from scratch though
00:19.38Funkeh`indeed
00:19.56durcynactually, that's a good candidate for LibBars right there
00:20.20Funkeh`did you actually picture a rewrite without libbars? :P
00:20.27durcynno =P
00:20.58Arrowmasterneed a new glory lib too
00:21.34Funkeh`what does that do
00:22.03Arrowmasterlots of BG stuff
00:22.17Funkeh`so 'too much' really
00:22.17Arrowmasterbut its so old and broken now
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00:23.03laegis anybody having trouble logging into eu realms in the last 5 minutes?
00:23.16Arrowmasterwell keeping track of wins vs losses and most all of the core stuff for any kinda bg bars mod
00:23.55Funkeh`gah whats the name of the addon that changes the gryphons to murlocs
00:24.02Funkeh`on the default ui
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00:30.08p3limHow do i add like a comment in an xml file?
00:30.21p3limin lua theres -- and --[[ something ]]
00:30.36Funkeh`<!--text-->
00:30.39p3limthanks
00:30.49p3limbarely used xml :p
00:31.49Funkeh`i don't think xml does multiline comments by the way
00:31.56JoshBorkeit does
00:32.50Arrowmasterfor real xml though you have to be carful with your comments
00:36.13breserXML is just all around picky comments aren't special in that regard.
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00:40.43digmousesomeone on Gurubashi-CN6 made it to clear kara with 5 shamen boxing
00:42.24JoshBorkei'm impressed
00:42.55digmouseand on the last few bosses they have 1 warrior and 9 shamen, with 5 boxing
00:43.16JoshBorkeoh, ok, i'm not so impressed anymore
00:43.38digmousedowned Tristian Illhoof using 4 Fire Elemental in 2min
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00:44.27NivFreakhaha
00:44.30NivFreakWWS is so broken
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00:44.48NivFreakthe last parry/dodge/miss that I see each time I view the combat log
00:44.51NivFreakshows up as a heal of 0
00:44.54NivFreakfrom the boss
00:45.09Arrowmasterlol
00:45.23NivFreakand it's actually of each type
00:45.34NivFreakso I basically get 3 heals of zero in each parse
00:45.42NivFreakone from dodge, one from parry, one from block
00:45.43NivFreaker
00:45.45NivFreakmiss
00:45.47NivFreaknot block
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00:47.39NivFreakwow, this is the first time I've gotten killed by a parry -> crush in a long time
00:47.43NivFreakRNG ftw
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00:54.13CIA-4303LordFarlander * r76976 10Tabard/ (. Tabard.lua Tabard.toc embeds.xml):
00:54.13CIA-43Tabard:
00:54.13CIA-43- Switched to Rock
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00:59.11CIA-4303apoco * r76977 10RBM/ (. CooldownWatch/CooldownWatch.lua Plugins.xml):
00:59.11CIA-43RBM:
00:59.11CIA-43- CooldownWatch: Added SelectAll option.
01:02.06CIA-4303ananhaid * r76978 10Capping/locals/localization-zhCN.lua:
01:02.06CIA-43Capping:
01:02.06CIA-43- zhCN update.
01:06.27CIA-4303LordFarlander * r76979 10Tabard/Tabard.toc:
01:06.27CIA-43Tabard:
01:06.27CIA-43- Commas in the dependencies
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01:13.30CIA-4303apoco * r76980 10RBM_Config/Config.lua: RBM_Config: - BossModule Options will once again be hidden if you do not have any RBM-BossMods installed or enabled.
01:14.30NivFreaksoo
01:14.31NivFreaknajentus
01:14.42NivFreakdoes he have some sort of haste, or frenzy?
01:14.52NivFreakI'm looking at this log where he gibbed me last night
01:15.05NivFreak2 hits, both came 1 second after the previous
01:15.12NivFreak3 hits, in 3 seconds
01:15.14NivFreakno parries
01:15.22NivFreakanyone have a clue?
01:17.21digmouseNajentus attacks with one hand or two hands?
01:17.37NivFreakone
01:17.39NivFreakmost of his attacks are 2.0
01:17.58NivFreakor rather, almost every one minus parries and this oddity
01:18.02digmouseand I dont remember he has some kinda hatse or frenzy ablilities
01:18.13NivFreakI certainly don't know of any
01:18.16NivFreakbut he straight up raped me
01:18.21NivFreakI've checked my log and a healers
01:18.29digmousecombatlogging lag?
01:18.30NivFreakboth show 3 attacks, one second apart each
01:18.40NivFreakto two different people?
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01:25.31ApocoNivFreak: he doesnt afaik
01:31.03NivFreakman, this is really strange then
01:31.51ApocoNivFreak: he probably parried some idiot melee's attack
01:32.29NivFreaknope
01:32.31NivFreakI checked
01:32.33NivFreakhttp://wowwebstats.com/ywwcrcu1tyfgg?s=4043-4140&bl=4043&fia=6&fiaa=t
01:33.01NivFreakHigh Warlord Naj'entus's Swing heals Nivwar for 0 == my parry of his attack
01:33.08NivFreakwhich should haste my next attack, not his
01:33.17NivFreakbut the haste is actually before that anyway
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01:33.57Apocomaybe your just bad
01:33.57Apocoidk
01:33.58Apoco:(
01:34.02NivFreak:P
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01:47.06HesselgrinchHello, ive been searching around for ways to target Pet skills with macros. But I cant seem to find it.
01:47.11HesselgrinchMaybe someone here could help me out?
01:47.56Arrowmasterjust use them by name
01:47.56Lukianyup
01:47.56Hesselgrinchreally?
01:48.12Lukianand there's /petattack /petfollow etc
01:48.13HesselgrinchTryed that, didnt work
01:48.19Hesselgrinchyes
01:48.26Hesselgrinchso etc
01:48.30Aiiane<PROTECTED>
01:48.30Aiianeetc
01:48.43Hesselgrinchto use my felhunters spell lock on my focused target
01:48.55Hesselgrinch./target focus
01:49.03Lukian<PROTECTED>
01:49.05Hesselgrinch./cast spell lock(rank X)
01:49.07Lukian(or whatever it's called)
01:49.19Hesselgrinchaha
01:49.24Aiianedont need to specify a rank
01:49.26Hesselgrinchand then /targetlasttarget
01:49.32Aiianeunless you explicitly want to downrank
01:49.34Aiianenope
01:49.37Aiianedon't need /targetlasttarget
01:49.44Aiiane<PROTECTED>
01:49.50Hesselgrinchsweet
01:49.51Aiianeit only affects the spell it's in the /cast for
01:49.53Hesselgrinchthanks alot mate!
01:49.54Tehpurger./cast [target=focus] Spell Lock
01:50.03Hesselgrinchsuper
01:50.04Hesselgrinchthanks guys
01:50.06LukianTehpurger, slow? :D
01:50.10Tehpurgershh
01:50.15Tehpurgeri forgot the .
01:50.19Tehpurgertyped this whole bitg thing
01:50.21Tehpurgerand got nothing
01:50.27Lukianhaha
01:50.28Tehpurgerso im a sad panda
01:50.31Lukianaww
01:50.34Lukianpats Tehpurger
01:50.38Tehpurgeryay
01:50.51Lukiansticks his furry little willy in Tehpurger's ear
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02:00.24Tehpurgernow im just scared
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02:11.45Silverstormis there an developer addon I can use to always show me the contents of a table?  Dumping stuff to chat frames only works so well
02:17.10CIA-4303LordFarlander * r76981 10Stable/Stable.toc:
02:17.10CIA-43Stable:
02:17.10CIA-43- Fix TOC with commas in the dependencies
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02:24.01laeg"you know what RP stands for? Retard Player" lawl
02:24.01GnarfozSilverstorm: tekProber
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02:37.00CIA-4303broliant * r76982 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (4 files):
02:37.00CIA-43FuBar_ConvergeFu: Added new function: FindPlayerByCharacterName(characterName).
02:37.00CIA-43Added new function to list all guilded characters associated with a single player.
02:37.00CIA-43Updated AnnounceRaidInvite, AnnounceWaitList, AnnounceRaidEnd to update the GMOTD appropriately.
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02:42.10p3limIm using a normal UIPanelButtonTemplate button, is there a way to change the whole buttons color?
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02:53.06CIA-4303durcyn * r76983 10Casualty/ (Casualty.lua locale-enUS.lua locale-zhTW.lua): Casualty: Clean up options and locales
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03:02.53allen-/cast [target=focus] Spell Lock
03:04.01digmouseapoco: ping
03:05.14digmouseok, is there any tool that can automatically make ace2 locale file for me?
03:05.35ApocoI believe so
03:05.40ApocoI've seen it used for default locales
03:05.52Apoconevcairiel did it for Chatter
03:06.14Apocosorry for the delay, doing sunwell :(
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03:06.25digmouseyap, just that things, and I think the locales of RBM is created that way
03:06.33digmousenothing serious :)
03:07.22Apoconah they arent
03:07.36ApocoI do them all manually
03:07.45Apocootherwise AbilityWatch's locales would be current lol
03:08.11digmousearent? so... that "automatically created" tag is just the old left ones lol
03:08.44Apocowell
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03:08.52ApocoRBM doesn't use AceLocale 3
03:09.18Apocoit just creates them into a meta table and returns the values
03:09.19digmouseI know, the locale tables isnt seriously ace3
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03:09.57ApocoI don't really know why that comment is there about them
03:10.03Apocoit was there before I took over the project
03:10.04digmousesomeone told me there's some tool on curse... digging into
03:10.23digmousemaybe the locales of the old version is automatically generated
03:10.37p3limAnyone knows the names of the texture files used in UIPanelButtonTemplate ?
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03:11.00Apocothe localization from 1.0 -> 2.0 are the same
03:11.04Apocoas far as how they are handles
03:11.05Apocohandled*
03:11.26Apocobut the original author may have had something that did them automatically
03:11.44p3limAnyone?
03:11.51Apocono idea p3lim
03:11.52Apoco:(
03:13.21allen-Interface\Buttons\UI-Panel-Button-Up
03:13.24allen--Down
03:13.28allen--Disabled
03:13.40digmousethe curse file page seems to be broken
03:14.00digmouseclicking page 2 of the dev tools brings up the "Most Downloaded"
03:15.53p3limthanks allen
03:15.58allen-np nn
03:16.21digmouseok the curse file page is totally messed up
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03:18.47Ackislol epic vent: me and another person just sang a whole new world (well a few lines of it anyways)
03:19.26digmouseuh vent? something like TeamSpeak?
03:19.42Ackisyes :P
03:20.15digmousealmost no CN players know anything about vent
03:21.12Apocovent > teamspeak
03:21.47digmouseno vent servers in China so TeamSpeak only
03:22.30Apocooh really?
03:22.49ApocoI could probably get my host to get some boxes out there if you think they would be used
03:22.52breserBecause the ventrillo people insist on only allowing hosting providers to run vent servers so not anyone can host a vent server.
03:23.01breserWell at least not a vent server that supports more than 8 people.
03:23.12Apocoyeah
03:23.17ApocoI have a license to host vent servers
03:23.25digmouseMost chinese players know nothing about vent.
03:23.34Apoco:(
03:23.36Apocopoor them
03:24.02digmouseGot TeamSpeak and is enough, we're so easily satisfied
03:25.05Apocohehe
03:25.20digmouseand I got 1000+ms connecting to EU/US realms without a proxy, so it will be a disaster for vent without a local server
03:26.54SilverstormGnarfoz: tekProber is good, if you have time to browse the table...unfortunately, I need to look at them during combat, and it's kinda fast-paced
03:27.44digmousethere must some curse guy to fix that messed up download page
03:28.16digmouseclicking any page number of any section would bring nothing than "Most Downloaded"
03:31.49digmouse~seen nevcairiel
03:31.52purlnevcairiel is currently on #wowprogramming #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 2946 messages. Is idling for 3h 55m 56s, last said: 'heh'.
03:34.37Ackis~seen ackis
03:34.37purlackis is currently on #wowuidev (4h 32m 3s) #wowace (4h 32m 3s) #curseforge (4h 32m 3s) #wowwiki (4h 32m 3s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen ackis'.
03:34.39Ackis~seen ackiswork
03:34.39purlackiswork <i=8ee5560b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d19f18a0875acca8> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 32m 35s ago, saying: '52 year old woman suing victoria's secret for getting hurt by a thong (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0617081secrets1.html possibly nsfw pic)'.
03:34.57Apocowtf ackis
03:34.59Apocothats wrong
03:35.24digmousethe day of ~seen
03:36.35Ackis?
03:36.44Ackisthe link? or the thong?
03:36.53Apocoboth
03:37.07Ackis:P
03:37.20Apocomaybe I'm just drunk
03:37.28ApocoI need to redo the bossdeath detection in rbm damnit
03:40.21digmouseapoco, what about adding a boss module activate notice?
03:41.06digmouseI even dont know whether my RBM boss mods are correctly activated
03:41.41CIA-4303cwdg * r76984 10LittleWigs/ (39 files in 5 dirs):
03:41.41CIA-43LittleWigs:
03:41.41CIA-43Auchindoun/Coilfang/HellfireCitadel/MT/TempestKeep:
03:41.41CIA-43-add guids
03:47.11Silverstormis there a way I can add something to my addon's metatable to print the name of each function I call?
03:48.15Apocodigmouse: What do you mean?  You can hover over the fubar icon or minimap icon for it
03:48.22Apocoit will say whats running, activated, etc
03:50.30ApocoSilverstorm; not that i know of :(
03:51.28SilverstormIt looks like I can, according to the PIL...but I don't exactly understand what's happening
03:53.20ApocoI would ask ckknight
03:53.30Arrowmasteryou cant
03:53.38Apocothere you go!
03:53.40Arrowmasterunless you do a proxy table
03:54.31digmouseapoco: just like BigWigs, a notice info when a boss mod is activated
03:54.50Apocoit depends on your setting digmouse
03:55.02Apocofor most people I imagine they active when you zone into the instance
03:55.20digmouseI had both activate on enter and mouseover enabled
03:55.34SilverstormArrowmaster: yeah, that's what PIL is suggesting, and it'll work for what I need.  I just want to see the execution path through my code
03:55.52Arrowmasterjust add the print to each function then
03:55.55Apocothen when you zone into the instance they all get activated and go into "monitoring" status waiting for the start events to be fired
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03:56.14digmouseok, that's a useless suggestion
03:56.25Apocolol
03:56.39Arrowmastertoo much work to setup the proxy table and make sure it all works right just for debuging if your going to remove it later
03:57.28digmousemaybe I'll go working on some implementing work of some boss mods. I would like to see a wave count down timer for Hyjal
03:57.52ApocoI'm raiding on two toons now
03:57.57Apocoso I've been planning on adding that
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03:58.10digmouseheh
03:58.22Apocojust time :(
03:58.39digmouseso I dont have to code in pain with my almost-0 coding ability
03:59.24digmousetake your time :(
03:59.28digmouse*:)
04:01.11Apoco<PROTECTED>
04:01.35ApocoArrowmaster: you still on Broken Legion?>
04:01.45digmousenot entered SWP yet :(
04:03.10digmousewiped a whole night on Supremus yesterday with a mess of fucking silly teamates :( I even want know what they are thinking
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04:05.59Civrockhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14020.0
04:09.04ArrowmasterApoco: yeah
04:10.41SilverstormArrowmaster: actually, setting up the metatable was quite easy...the example in PIL is already basically everything I needed
04:11.09Arrowmasteryeah but you need to move everything out of your main table to use it
04:11.18Arrowmasterthats why i said it had to be a proxy table
04:11.22Silverstormactually, no, I didn't
04:11.29Arrowmasterif you didnt then it wont work
04:11.57Arrowmasterif something already exists in a table and you try to access it the metatable is ignored
04:12.12Silverstormhttp://ace.pastey.net/89674
04:13.08Arrowmastersomehow i doubt thats going to work
04:13.20Silverstormit works perfectly, actually
04:13.44Arrowmasterare you manually calling a function to start it or are you using some framework?
04:13.59SilverstormI put that after all the code in the addon
04:14.00LukianAre epic gems purchased with Heroic badges reducing in cost from 15 badges to 10 badges with season 4?
04:14.17Gnarfozno
04:14.31Gnarfozhow'd you get that idea
04:14.44Arrowmasteryeah if it actually works then it makes me think youve got stuff accessing your table as a global
04:14.55LukianGnarfoz, hmm old information from one of the PTR's
04:15.00Gnarfozindeed, old.
04:15.08Gnarfozbefore the badges went live
04:15.30Silverstormwell, first two lines are MoarDots = LibStub(new stuff here); local MD = MoarDots
04:15.48Silverstormit let me get visibility to the tables in my addon
04:16.46Silverstormprobably not the recommended setup for releasing it, but for debugging, it's helped quite a bit
04:16.51Odlawerhm... ok.. i was trying to find the option to turn off lua errors in the interface options.. I can't seem to find it now.  Did they remove it?  Is there a lua command equivalent?
04:17.08ArrowmasterOdlaw: its still there, look harder
04:17.12digmousepoor Lakers
04:17.21Odlawwheres??!?! :)
04:17.22Arrowmasterprobably on one of the later pages
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04:18.26ArrowmasterSilverstorm: you using AceAddon-3.0?
04:18.37Silverstormyeah
04:18.45Arrowmasterthat makes it really easy
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04:21.49Odlawlawl.. i can't find it.. only way i think of turning on/off error msgs (if you don't have a bugsack type addon) is to SetCVar("ScriptErrors", 0)
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04:24.11Arrowmasterlocal mt = {}; mt.__newindex={}; mt.__index=function(t,k) mt.__newindex.Print(t, "Starting "..k) return mt.__newindex[k] end}; MoarDots = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon(setmetatable({}, mt) , "name", ...)
04:24.12Gnarfoznew glasses for odlaw
04:24.44Odlawshow me where then.. i don't see it
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04:25.00ArrowmasterOdlaw: last one i think
04:25.09Arrowmastermight be called "Help"
04:25.12Arrowmasteror something
04:25.15Odlawomfg.
04:25.20Odlawwhy is it there.
04:25.31Arrowmasterwhere else would it be
04:25.35Odlawdisplay maybe
04:25.39Arrowmasternah
04:25.50Odlawi mean.. it just .. doesn't seem like it should be under 'help'
04:31.13laegis there a way to see who is the best wow warrior?
04:31.37Diaohow can you determine who is "best"?
04:31.39Diaoisn't that subjective
04:31.40laegpeople are saying athene is the best pala
04:31.51laegDiao: idk rating maybe? i don't have a level 70
04:31.55Diaolol
04:32.04Diaothat's just because he has a website proclaiming that he is the best paladin in the world
04:32.15laegis 2500 max rating?
04:32.22Diaothere is no theoretical max
04:32.32laegwell then the person with the max rating is the best
04:32.47Arrowmasterumm no
04:32.57laegwhy not?
04:33.07laegit's based on their win ratio, right?
04:33.36Diaodepends more on the teams they beat
04:33.39Arrowmasteryour using generic term 'best' and trying to determine it solely based on pvp
04:33.48Diaoand yeah
04:33.51Diaothat's a subjective term
04:33.53Diaolike is aid
04:33.53Arrowmasteri object
04:33.54Diaoi said*
04:34.33Arrowmasterand athene is just some troll
04:34.35Gary13579Team ratings are subject to comp, battlegroup, and opponants
04:35.19laegok well the person on the battlegroup with the most highly rated people
04:35.20Gary13579You could face warrior/druid against some horrible combo like mage/lock for a theororetical infinite amount of games and hit 3k
04:35.26Diaowell
04:35.28Diaono, you couldn't
04:35.30laegand about who they fight
04:35.30Gary13579Yet you could still be the worst warrior ever.
04:35.35laegit's randomly selected, right?
04:35.40Diaobecause that mage/lock would have to get to 2600+
04:35.41Gary13579Based on rating.
04:35.48Gary13579Diao: That's possible as well.
04:35.57Diaosince past 400 rating difference you get 0 rating for a win
04:35.57Arrowmasterand based on whos currently in the queue
04:36.09Diaoit's very very difficult past 2700 unless you win trade
04:36.13Gary13579Doing an infinite amount of games, it's possible for any team to hit 2k
04:36.17laegyes but over a period of time everyone has the same chance of playing everyone
04:36.25Diaoeh
04:36.26laegso you can't say 'oh he was lucky every game to face shit people'
04:36.29Diaoi wouldn't say it's possible for ANY team
04:36.50Diaotheoretically it's possible, but not realistically
04:36.59laegso rating means shit then?
04:37.02Arrowmasteryes
04:37.10Gary13579In terms of best, yeah.
04:37.17Arrowmasterits a broken system
04:37.21laegwhat about in terms of better?
04:37.30Gary13579There is no single "BEST", theres the "ATTENTION WHORING MERCILESS GLADIATOR THAT RUBS IT IN YOUR FACE DAILY"
04:37.55Diaowell the very very top teams are probably much more coordinated/skilled than most of the lower ranked teams
04:38.05laegyes
04:38.17laegand what about the team at the top of those teams?
04:38.22Diaothat's not always best
04:38.23syerenLet's see.
04:38.29syerenI'm a 2500 rated Priest in 2s.
04:38.31laeghow can there be a better without a best?
04:38.35syerenAnd the teams above me are Druid Warriros.
04:38.36Diaobecause sometimes they will still lose to the teams that are below them
04:38.38syerenWho counter comp me.
04:38.52syerenThe only reason they're there is because it's almost impossible for us to gain rating if they're queueuing.
04:39.11Diaoexcept dru/war isn't a pure countercomp to pri/rog
04:39.11syerenThat is how the system works :p
04:39.14laegsyeren: warriors and druids are best 2v2?
04:39.14Diaoassuming that's your comp
04:39.17Gary13579Warr/Druid counter comps everything at 2.5k
04:39.17Gary13579:/
04:39.19syerenComp > Queue >
04:39.23syerenDiao, let's see.
04:39.27laegwhat's comp?
04:39.30laegcompetition?
04:39.35syerenMyself and Hydra will both agree that Druid / Warrior is counter-comp.
04:39.38laegcompetitor?
04:39.41syerenHydra probably the best Priest in the world.
04:39.52laegis he friends with athena?
04:39.53Gary13579laeg: classes
04:39.55laegi'm just kidding
04:40.03Diaocomp is short for composition
04:40.06syerenHe used to play in Atheren's team :p
04:40.09Diaoteam makeup
04:40.14syeren*Athene's team.
04:40.17laegcool
04:40.18syerenIf that makes anything :p
04:40.24laegglad i made a warrior
04:40.25syerenBut Athene is shit and got carried by his team.
04:40.29Arrowmasteri still say athene is a troll
04:40.31laegbut i guess my main rogue is shit out of luck :(
04:40.38laegathene plays on my server, or used to
04:40.49syerenHell, Athene is in my raiding guild and will openly admit that all he does is an act.
04:40.49syeren:p
04:40.50laegi talked to a level 1 today claiming to be him
04:40.57laeghe is supposed to have gottten a ban
04:41.03syerenJust a sec.
04:41.06Gary13579syeren: Obviously, you haven't watched his iPower stuff
04:41.07laegsyeren: what server?
04:41.10Gary13579or i, power
04:41.12Gary13579whatever it is.
04:41.17Diaobut then
04:41.20Diaothat's subjective again
04:41.35laegsyeren, what server?
04:42.09syerenStormscale.
04:42.14laeglol
04:42.17laegsorry, i was testing you :)
04:42.23laegad infintum?
04:42.30laeg*infinitum
04:43.22laegsyren and seary
04:43.50laegthere's only 3 people in that guild
04:44.00syerenhttp://fabrikate.org/athene.jpg
04:44.08syerenI raid on my Shaman.
04:44.15syerenIf you want fucking Proof about me fucking knowing Athene.
04:44.25syeren85.13.238.58
04:44.26syeren3107
04:44.33syerenYou just got Athene's Vent details.
04:44.55Diaobut yeah
04:45.02Diaoi'm only in 1900-2ks :
04:45.03Diao:(*
04:45.11Diaopriest rogue is a hard fight for me+dru
04:45.57Arrowmasteri only arena when asked to for points because i dont find it fun
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04:47.08syerenAs for the best 2v2.
04:47.15syerenTake the most dumb healer in the history of WoW.
04:47.28syerenCombine it with one of the stupid classes of WoW at the moment, and you've got a good comp.
04:47.33Diaodruid rogue?
04:47.35Diao:P
04:47.40syerenDruid+ Rogue / Warrior / Hunter >
04:48.02Diaowarrior isn't a stupid class :\
04:48.05laegwhy are those 3 stupid?
04:48.12Diaorogue is pretty stupid atm though
04:48.17syerenWarrior is a skilless class which scales with gear retardly.
04:48.23Diaonot at all
04:48.29Diaoit's very easy to tell the difference between a decent warrior and a bad one
04:48.37syerenRogues are fucking impossible to kite, is easy to play, and has Cheat Skill.
04:48.38laegspylord is a decent warrior
04:48.50syerenAnd Hunters have insane damage, a pet, and Viper Sting,.
04:48.51Diaorogue is stupid because they have mobility, high damage, and control
04:49.04Diaowarriors get mobility and damage
04:49.22syerenI'm not bothering arguing.
04:49.26Arrowmastermy friend doesnt even pvp in his pvp gear on his rogue anymore, just pve gear
04:49.30Diaoyep
04:49.32syerenIf I was Wrong, you'd see other classes playing with Druids to that success.
04:49.35Diaothat's another reason rogues are stupid
04:49.43Diaothey can pve gear in pvp with no drawbacks
04:49.48Diaono other class can do that
04:49.56syerenPaladin.
04:49.56syeren:p
04:50.03syerenBut Paladins need that gear :p
04:50.16syerenBecause Damage / Melee are balanced in this game.
04:50.18syerenOh wait.
04:50.18CIA-4303LordFarlander * r76985 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
04:50.18CIA-43LibLordFarlander-1.0:
04:50.18CIA-43- Renamed the files and library names
04:50.38Diaoand yet
04:50.47Arrowmasterwhat game arent they.... oh wait
04:51.05laegDiao the AEP forumlas for rogue pvp and pve are different
04:51.07Diaowarriors don't find that success with any partner except druid
04:51.18syerenThey do well with Priests.
04:51.22syerenThey just simply don't bother.
04:51.33ArrowmasterAEP is a retarded forumla
04:51.51syerenhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Stormscale&ts=2&t=DRUIDS&select=DRUIDS
04:52.02syerenI think that's Airas and Ryan's 4th or 5th 2s team.
04:52.06syerenThey sold the others :P
04:52.31Diaobut yeah
04:52.41Diaowarrior is completely reliant on their partner to help them
04:52.48Diaohunter and rogue are pretty self sufficient
04:53.10laegi thought nagas was a PVE guild syeren, but i saw they have the most teams in the top 5 of 2v2/3v3/5v5 on realmhistory.net
04:53.23syerenNagas are a PVE guild.
04:53.28syerenThey killed Illidan last night.
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04:53.41Arrowmasteri actually 2v2d today, feared a pally and then blew up a warrior attacking my 400res disc priest before the pally got back
04:54.04syerenPVE is about following instructions. If you're good at PVP, where you don't have instructions, you're going to do well at PVE.
04:54.12syerenSo you don't have to do one or the other :p
04:54.17Diaothat's exactly what i mean Arrowmaster
04:54.24Diaoa warrior by himself is gimp
04:54.32Arrowmasternah he sucked
04:54.35Diaoif he were decent he probably would've gone with shield and tried to survive
04:54.42Arrowmasterhe was attacking my 400 res disc priest instead of me
04:54.44Diaountil his partner got out of fear
04:55.03Arrowmasterthe 45 res t6 destro warlock
04:55.07Diaolol
04:55.09Diaowell that's just dumb
04:55.10Diaobut
04:55.23Diaoi've had times where i almost got soloed by a 450ish res disc priest on my warrior
04:55.30Diaohad to swap to sword/shield to reflect
04:55.38Diaocause they have pretty good burst with PI up
04:55.51PrimerAnyone here use bongos3? Why is it that I see no pet bar in 1) chess event, and 2) when I MC someone?
04:56.07Diaoit's swapping your main bar for it, perhaps?
04:56.30CIA-4303LordFarlander * r76986 10Mount/ (. Img/Mount.tga Mount.lua embeds.xml):
04:56.30CIA-43Mount:
04:56.30CIA-43- Changes to embeds for more constant names
04:56.30CIA-43- Changed default image
04:57.01PrimerBongos is an action bar replacement, yes
04:57.12laegsyeren: on doing one or the other, i'd like to tank prot with my warrior and do pvp every day aswell by changing builds. my rogue is sub spec but i'd like to do kara as well so i'd probably have to change him too, i'd have to look into best pve build though
04:57.16Primerso is there a special bar for non-standard pets?
04:57.23Primerpet bar is fine on my lock
04:57.28Diaolike i said
04:57.33Diaopet bar for "MC" type pets
04:57.37Diaois probably replacing your main action bar
04:57.44Diaodefault behavior
04:57.47Primererr
04:58.04Primerok, you lost me. In the past, chess event would show up on the pet bar
04:58.11PrimerMC would show up on the pet bar
04:58.16Primerit seems this has changed
04:58.22Primereven if I wasn't using an addon
04:58.32Diaoyes
04:58.34Diaoin the past
04:58.34Primerthe "standard UI" now uses something different
04:58.36Diaoin 2.4
04:58.38Primerok
04:58.38Diaoyour main action bar
04:58.40Diao(primary action keys)
04:58.49Diaogets replaced by the pet bar
04:58.55Diaowhenever you use a MC type ability
04:58.58Diaosuch as chess or MC
04:59.00Primergoes off to MC something
04:59.17Diaoyou can turn off this behavior in most bar addons; bongos3 probably included
04:59.24CIA-4303arrowmaster * r76987 10Deadened/Modules/agUF.lua: Deadened: fix logic error in agUF module
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04:59.40CIA-43MiniPet:
04:59.40CIA-43- Changes to embeds for more constant names
04:59.40CIA-43- Changed default image
05:00.24Primernope, it offers no such thing
05:00.40Primerperhaps there's a newer version
05:01.15Primersho' nuff
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05:18.21durcynit's called possess bar, btw
05:29.49Primerahhh cool
05:30.26Primerthere's an "act as posses bar"
05:30.29Primeroption
05:30.42Primernot sure how that'll affect my main bar though...we'll see
05:33.34Silverstormit should replace your main bar with the controls for your pet
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05:47.06CIA-43DrummerBoy:
05:47.06CIA-43- Initial commit
05:47.29Odlawoh noes.. now it's gonna overwrite the rewrite i did for my guild :)
05:50.23Odlawthat doesn't even look like the same code/author of the other drummerboy.
05:50.44durcyneh, the code could be worse though
05:51.24durcyneven if his options tables make me die a little inside
05:51.44Odlawehehe.. my guild had downloaded the original one from curse, and wanted a few options added, so i was adding to it for guild.. but got tired of the code, and wrote my own for guild
05:52.12Odlawi'll just rename my guild one :)
05:53.37Silverstormwow, that's a serious options table...pretty much wrote the whole mod into the table!
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05:54.31laegis it possible for an lua script to detect when you try to cast a certain spell even if it fails because you have the wrong item equipped?
05:56.32Silverstormlaeg: example?
05:57.20TsaghenIs there an addon or lib that can tell you all the addons that you have loaded ?
05:57.45CIA-4303LordFarlander * r76991 10MiniPet/README.txt:
05:57.45CIA-43MiniPet:
05:57.45CIA-43- Again updated README.txt
05:57.49SilverstormTsaghen: multiple addons can.  I use ACP, I think OptionHouse can, and probably some others
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06:00.06laegSilverstorm: i need a shield to cast shield block on my warrior to interupt spell casting but by default with the outfitter mod i use a twohanded weapon in battlestance for arms spec
06:00.29laegwait two seconds i have link
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06:01.19laegSilverstorm: http://wobbleworks.com/outfitter/manual/#SampleScripts
06:01.30laegthere is an example of some of the existing scripts making outfitter react
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06:08.20mjcFF3 ftw.
06:10.05CIA-4303LordFarlander * r76992 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/lib.xml:
06:10.05CIA-43LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0:
06:10.05CIA-43- lib.xml was just plain wrong
06:16.00Arrowmasterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ot4xFhvYNw <- so i did a double take when i found out that was being done in realtime
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06:19.30CIA-43DrummerBoy:
06:19.30CIA-43- Fix externals
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06:24.28aestilwtf is that?
06:25.56dylanmAWESOME
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06:33.35aestilwhat is it?
06:33.43aestilArrowmaster: what is that?
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06:34.09Arrowmasterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARToolKit
06:34.24Arrowmasterand OMG LOL http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/17/1941200
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07:00.30buuSO GUYS
07:00.43vithosLibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0?  isn't that like, what periodictable is for?
07:01.03buuI installed ratingbuster and it isn't busting my ratings =[
07:01.05ApocoArrowmaster: you need to sleep
07:01.19Apocobroken legion will await you tomorrow
07:01.19Apoco:(
07:01.21ArrowmasterApoco: i was actually just about to head to bed
07:01.32Arrowmasterim not even ingame
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07:02.00Apocolol
07:02.02Diaolol
07:02.12Diaofirefox 3 telling me wowarmory's certificate for ssl is bad
07:02.16Diaoit's only valid for worldofwarcraft.co
07:02.17Diaocom*
07:02.20Diaoso i had to make an exception for it
07:02.34Arrowmasterhaha
07:02.46Apocowell wowarmory.com isnt worldofwarcraft.com so technically it is bad
07:03.13vithoswell there is armory.worldofwarcraft.com
07:03.17Diaoyeah
07:03.24Arrowmasterthey arent even on the same ip
07:03.25vithosbut yeah, they could have made it for both
07:03.32vithosoh
07:03.33Arrowmasterwhich is umm wrong
07:03.57Arrowmastersince usually you run into ssl problems with virtual hosts since you can only have 1 cert
07:04.04Apocoif armory and wow.com were on the same box it would be even more laggy than it already is
07:04.05Apoconoty
07:05.13Drundiait already lags beyond all belief
07:05.29Drundiamore lag equals down
07:06.49buuHrm
07:06.52buuIt claims it's loaded
07:07.03buuBut I can't even get it to respond to a /ratingsbuster
07:07.05buuThat's peculiar
07:08.24Apocoprobably because its /ratingbuster
07:08.27CIA-4303apoco * r76994 10RBM/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
07:08.27CIA-43RBM:
07:08.27CIA-43- New: Engage/Defeat announces when bosses are engaged and defeated (Thanks Digmouse/luxus for the idea, along with the bigwigs team where I imagine they got the idea from lol)
07:08.27CIA-43- Fix: Enrage Timers (typos ftl)
07:08.27CIA-43- Change: Changed the boss death detection methods to allow different Raid ID
07:08.29CIA-43names from the boss module zone names (Sunwell Plateau is called "The Sunwell"
07:08.33CIA-43in RaidID's). With these changes, it will now automatically add boss deaths if
07:08.39buuApoco: Yeah, no joy from that either.
07:08.45buuThe only error message is some libbabble..
07:08.49Apocotry /rb
07:09.14buuNope
07:09.23Apoco:(
07:10.43buuAh-hah
07:11.00buuWhy doesn't "install with externals" actually pull down dependencies =/
07:11.23digmouseapoco thx :D
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07:11.52Apocobuu if you didnt have them previously installed with externals then you need to do a reinstall of all mods via wau
07:12.12buuI installed it via wau 'with externals'
07:12.41Apocoright, but I know when I changed from w/ externals to without I had to do a reinstall of all the mods via wau otherwise it kept doing them with them
07:12.48Apocono idea if thats what is occuring for you or not
07:12.51buuHrm.
07:12.54Apocodigmouse: npnp, ty for helping localize!
07:12.56buuActually let me try that.
07:13.16digmouseapoco working on after I finish Wishlist :(
07:13.20digmouse*:)
07:13.31Apocolol
07:13.47ApocoI need to transfer rbm over to curseforge, I'm tired of checking jira here
07:13.51Apocoits sooo...ugly :(
07:14.14Kalrothcurseforge is curse though :(
07:14.47digmousestill cant get Wishlist to read non-english honor mark names :(
07:14.56buuApoco: Well, I have ratings now
07:15.45ApocoKalroth: I tend to agree yes, but none the less, its a better tracking system for developers than Jira is, not to mention Curse is an amazing UI site that gets lots of feedback.
07:15.48Apocobuu: thats good
07:16.11KalrothWell that's where we disagree :)
07:17.07Apocoamazing as in it gets to a LOT of users :)
07:17.07digmouseI prefer wowI to get feedbacks
07:17.07KalrothThe tracking system might be better though, I haven't got much experience on that part
07:17.32ApocoI have a personal connection to wowi, so I'm not really sure I don't want to put it there
07:17.40ApocoI was an admin on vginterface for a long time
07:18.27ApocoI just really dont think the current style of wowi is user friendly
07:18.28Apocoidk
07:20.37ShadowedAnyone know specifically how raid#s work if you swap people in the middle of combat? Do they change at all or just their group assignments
07:21.12ApocoI don't believe the raid# changes based on group, I may be wrong though
07:21.22Apocoparty# would change but not raid#
07:21.47Shadowedkk
07:22.34Apocoif I remember in my testing (granted I only tested with <5 people) but raid# is defined when they join the raid
07:23.52Apocoanyways, off to bed before I decide to code more
07:23.56Apocoand get stuck for another hour or so
07:23.58Apoconights
07:24.02ramozfanfuckingtastic
07:24.12ramozthe one day im off our exchangeserver dies on itself
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08:22.12CIA-4303neotron * r76995 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: MagicTargets: Fixed index by nil error (probably!)
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08:43.24Elkanodurcyn, since you ported Casualty to Ace3/LSM3, mind using the LSM widgets?
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09:21.33CIA-4303elsia * r76996 10Recount/deletion.lua:
09:21.33CIA-43Recount:
09:21.33CIA-43- Fixed that zone changes when the player is in ghost form no longer change data collection. This should ensure that players who die inside an instance but don't collect outside don't get their data deleted.
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09:35.24CIA-4303nevcairiel * r76997 10Bartender4/Button.lua: Bartender4: re-implement the hide macrotext option, should all be working now again
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09:35.40CIA-43Cartographer_QuestInfo:
09:35.40CIA-43- esES added
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09:37.01CIA-43Cartographer_QuestObjectives:
09:37.01CIA-43- esES added
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09:39.09ThiefMasterhi, is there an easy way to find out the name of a certain frame? (preferably via a /script command)
09:39.31ThiefMasternvm, google helped
09:39.35nevcairiel./dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() will give you the name of the frame that you hove
09:39.42nevcairiel*hover
09:39.57ThiefMasterah thx, looks even nicer than ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName())
09:40.21nevcairieldump however only works if you have a addon providing, like Ace2 or DevTools
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09:41.40ThiefMasterhm, do Button objects contain SetCooldown by default?
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09:44.44CIA-4303StiviS * r77000 10nQuestLog/ (10 files in 6 dirs):
09:44.44CIA-43nQuestLog:
09:44.44CIA-43- esES updated
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10:03.49ThiefMasteris there an easy way to find out which spell's cooldown was changed in SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN?
10:04.07[Ammo]loop the spellbook
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10:16.31ThiefMasternevcairiel: do you know if there's a lua function for something like /dump?
10:16.49ThiefMasteri tried something like that but that only shows me "invalid concatenation" or something similar
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10:16.49ThiefMasterDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("k="..k.."; v="..v)
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11:11.25Tifidoes anybody know a nameplate addon other than aloft?
11:12.17Kuosiusing ptags myself
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11:12.53Kuosihttp://www.vranx.com/nameplates.htm
11:12.57Kuosithere's a rather good list
11:13.23Tifityvm
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11:28.45CIA-4303daviesh * r77001 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
11:28.45CIA-43AtlasLoot:
11:28.45CIA-43- Beta version of Quicklooks finished, still need to implement in the Loot
11:28.45CIA-43Browser (trivial), make tooltips work and figure out how best to deal with third
11:28.45CIA-43party mods (ie: Alphamap). At the moment, a quicklook save in one interface can
11:28.46CIA-43only be retrieved via that interface.
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11:49.29Pkekyo|g'mornin ladies
11:50.10KalrothMorning honeybuns
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11:53.35cncfanaticshello peeps
11:56.41Pkekyo|g'mornin lass
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12:04.05ZyndromeFisker- , http://www.steampowered.com/pyro/?pw=presspreview
12:04.24ZyndromeI sense Pyro is awesome with tomorrows update
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12:17.00durcynElkano: link?  i was as lazy as possible and just copied an existing sound selector
12:18.14Elkanothere should be a wiki page for them
12:18.34Elkanohttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets
12:18.36KazieAnyone know if Recount 2 is soon able to report and all the stuff Recount1 can?
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12:19.06ramozKazie: dont think theres been any development on it for a while
12:19.10Elkanobut they aren't part of Ace3 itself so you'll have to set that lib as external/optdep
12:19.33Kazieramoz: Ye i just saw.. >30 days since the last change on WAU :(
12:19.35durcynoh, how is that useful for non-textures?
12:19.53Elkanowell, sound has a preview for examle ^^
12:20.19durcyni've already got PlaySoundFile in my set function =P
12:20.47durcyni'll take a look though, thanks
12:21.20Elkanoyeah, but I think using the widget would be easier ans allow for a common UI experience in the config
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12:23.44CIA-4303Copystring * r77002 10YurrCombatLog/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
12:23.44CIA-43YurrCombatLog:
12:23.44CIA-43- add periodic miss damage
12:23.44CIA-43- add events for stacking buffs/debuffs
12:23.44CIA-43- add experience gain events + new menu for events(only experience so far)
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13:24.38KazieAnyone who knows if Necronomicon2 is like Necrosis?
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13:25.21ThiefMasterit isn't
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13:55.52Mytosmornin folks
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13:57.11Mytosive got an idea for a mod that will draw a line forward from your point in the map to a predefined length on the map, has anyone heard of this before?
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13:59.26cncfanaticsMytos: practical uses ?
13:59.32cncfanaticsits not rly hard to do
13:59.57Mytosto estimate where the hell ill end up in epic flight while i got afk lol
14:00.31Mytosi know there was a system with cartographer and its waypoints, is there a way to do with mapster/routes/gathermate
14:01.30cncfanaticsah, heh
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14:01.49cncfanaticsI could write that if you want, remind me that wednesday if I'm online
14:01.57cncfanaticsonly a few minutes of work as a standalone mod (I think)
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14:05.00durcynuh, tomtom?
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14:06.49Mytosdoes it interface with mapster?
14:08.36Funkeh`if by interface you mean works then yes
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14:10.14Mytosgood enough for me, thanks
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14:17.29AckisWorkmorning y'all
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14:22.16kalahassiafter how many minutes do tyrande whisperwind and archimonde in hyjal respawn?
14:23.26AckisWorkthey're usually up by the time you run back
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14:26.28kalahassieven if you use an ankh?  
14:27.12AckisWorkankh isn't running back
14:27.14AckisWork:P
14:27.25AckisWorkand we never DI/ankhed because it was a waste
14:27.44AckisWorkpeople who got rezzed had to go get the tears again, and it took the same amount of time as just running back
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14:28.21Mytostomtom is ace right?
14:28.39cladhaireno
14:28.55nevcairielblasphemy!
14:29.34dylanmWiiiitcchhhh.
14:30.01Mytoshey durcyn started it, hes the blasphemer, i just asked for a waypoint mod
14:30.11cladhaireand it is a waypoint mod
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14:31.44durcynand what difference would it being 'ace' or not make, exactly
14:32.16Mytosnothing, just couldnt find it in the svn list lol
14:32.17durcyngood code is good code, bad code is bad code, regardless of frameworks and libraries
14:37.15ckknightand regardless of where it is
14:37.20CIA-4303elsia * r77004 10Recount/Tracker.lua:
14:37.20CIA-43Recount:
14:37.20CIA-43- Take second spell school field for RANGE_DAMAGE so that wand and other ranged damage that has a spell school records as something other than physical.
14:37.27ckknightMytos: not all good things are in wowace's svn
14:37.41ckknightMytos: I've stopped using svn in general, annoys me too highly
14:39.17CIA-4303ackis * r77005 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhTW.lua:
14:39.17CIA-43AckisRecipeList:
14:39.17CIA-43- Update zhTW thanks to apa
14:39.17CIA-43- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p)
14:39.17CIA-4303next96 * r77006 10YurrCombatLog/Locale-koKR.lua:
14:39.17CIA-43YurrCombatLog:
14:39.19CIA-43- Update locale koKR
14:39.59AckisWorkckknight: You have to agree that Ackis Recipe List (tm) is a good thing!
14:40.04AckisWorklikes plugging himself.
14:40.05AckisWorklol
14:40.15ckknightI don't have to agree to anything
14:40.20ckknightactually, I haven't tried ARL yet
14:40.21AckisWork:(
14:40.53Mytoswhats it do ackis?
14:41.35AckisWorklol I was being a tool about it
14:41.35AckisWork~arl
14:41.35purlsomebody said arl was a poorly named add-on, 95% dry-coded developed by Ackis.  Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however.
14:41.35AckisWorkwat
14:41.51AckisWorkthere we go, purl is slow today
14:42.04cncfanaticsAckisWork: its true its poorly coded
14:42.07cncfanaticspoorly named even
14:42.24AckisWorkboth actually
14:42.30AckisWorkpoorly coded and poorly named
14:42.54Dark_Elfthinks its well named for one it tells who made it and 2 it tells what it does in the name
14:43.31AckisWorknah it could have a better name... doesn't "super mod 5000" sound better?
14:43.42cncfanaticssounds even more fail
14:43.45AckisWorkI'm just not creative with names and didn't think anyone other than me would use it
14:43.50cncfanaticslets ask nickometer
14:43.58cncfanatics~nickometer AckisRecipeList
14:44.06cncfanatics8.000% lame
14:44.11AckisWorklol
14:44.17ckknight~nickometer cncfanatics
14:44.23ckknighthrm
14:44.29cncfanatics<3
14:44.35nevcairiel~nickometer ckknight
14:44.40nevcairielha!
14:44.48ckknightnevcairiel: it's cause "knight" is in it
14:44.59ckknightdespite being my real name
14:45.06nevcairielthat doesnt change its lameness
14:45.08Traeany addon that puts you into zone LFG when you enter?  
14:45.09AckisWork~nickometer SuperMod5000
14:45.15AckisWorkoh
14:45.31cncfanaticsAckisRecipeList clearly beats it :p
14:45.35AckisWorklol yup
14:45.37cncfanatics~nickometer flexbar
14:45.42cncfanaticsthats the stuff
14:45.57Silviu-~nickometer Silviu
14:46.11ckknight~nickometer Silviu-
14:46.19Silviu-grr :P
14:46.22Stanzilla~nickometer Stanzilla
14:46.23ckknightsee
14:46.26Stanzilla!
14:46.28Stanzillasee!
14:46.34ckknightStanzilla: no u
14:46.35nevcairielsomeone should add "zilla" to the lamelist
14:46.36Silviu-I have to use - in my name :(
14:46.36AckisWorkpurl, no, arl is a poorly named add-on (6% lame), 94% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however.
14:46.37purlAckisWork: okay
14:46.41Stanzilla:P
14:46.44ncd|Aileenpokes Silviu-. Hey!
14:46.50cncfanaticsit was 8% lame
14:46.52StanzillaI'm only Stanzilla because "Stan" was taken
14:46.55Silviu-~nickometer ncd|Aileen
14:47.00Silviu-Pwned
14:47.04ncd|Aileen:(
14:47.06AckisWorkpurl, no, arl is a poorly named add-on (8% lame), 94% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however.
14:47.07purlAckisWork: okay
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14:47.15cncfanaticsalso, make it 92% drycoded
14:47.17cncfanaticssuits it better
14:47.23AckisWork:P
14:47.24cncfanatics8% lame and 91% drycoded
14:47.29cncfanaticss/91/92/
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14:50.05AckisWorkckknight: how goes the idea for the pig add-on?
14:50.18ckknightAckisWork: I've been working on Cartographer3
14:50.42AckisWorkI thought you'd be done that by now :P
14:50.49Chomperspig?
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14:54.15ckknightAckisWork: I've been busy with grown-up people work
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14:57.01Chompersouch ckk
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14:58.25AckisWorkckknight: pfft mods are grown-up people work :P
14:59.21ckknightsadly, they don't pay the bills
15:00.23AckisWorkwell, you've kinda got them to pay the bills now though with work at curse
15:01.55ckknightsorta
15:01.58ckknightI'm not paid to write mods, though
15:02.06ckknightwell, only for CurseProfiler 2.0
15:02.08ckknightbut that's done now
15:02.42AckisWorkahh
15:04.37ckknightit'd be sweet if I could like, work on Cart3 and get paid, though
15:04.42ckknightdoubt that's going to happen, mind you
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15:05.44AckisWorkwell, if you could integrate it w/ wowdb somehow and toss curse logo's all over it? :P
15:08.12ckknightthat was an idea I had
15:08.25ckknightfor quest and gathering stuff and the like
15:09.05ckknightthing is, there's other things that need doing that are easily deem-able as more important
15:09.22AckisWorktrue, and also would people use an add-on with a curse logo on it?
15:09.36ckknightwhy wouldn't they?
15:09.47ckknightit likely wouldn't be glaring, mind you
15:09.54Chompersin game advertising ckk
15:10.18ckknightChompers: nah, that can't really be tracked, also, I think it's dickish
15:10.24Chompers"i see you're looking at blasted lands, how about a delioious icecream"
15:10.41ckknightlol
15:10.55AckisWorkit depends on how it's implemented
15:12.08nevcairieltracking is irrelevant if you get a company to acknolish the popularity of your addons
15:12.18nevcairielsaid popularity might drop pretty fast, however
15:12.47nevcairielAlso i would personally start deleting stuff from the wowace svn if someone starts doing things like that :P
15:13.10ckknightingame advertising would be lame
15:13.42ckknightreally, what I'd likely do is more along the lines of possibly providing a link to wowdb for a certain quest or mob or what have you
15:13.44ckknightshrugs
15:13.46ckknightI dunno
15:13.48nevcairielhm what drove me to write acknolish .. acknowledge is the word :P
15:13.52ckknightthat's a ways off anyway
15:13.57Chompersit was terrible in splinter cell
15:14.15Chompersmid cutscene, the camera would focus on a pack of chewing gum
15:14.16charongo for subliminal ads... but remember to check the framerate first ;)
15:14.22nevcairielheh
15:14.29Chompersthen fisher would take one and enjoy a good chew
15:14.57ckknightlol
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16:17.06CIA-4303trasher * r77010 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua:
16:17.06CIA-43AtlasLoot:
16:17.07CIA-43- frFR udpate
16:17.07CIA-4303cwdg * r77009 10Bartender4/locale/enUS.lua:
16:17.07CIA-43Bartender4:
16:17.07CIA-43I have forgotten some things
16:17.09CIA-4303digmouse * r77008 10RBM/ (CooldownWatch/CooldownWatch.lua Locales/zhCN.lua):
16:17.11CIA-43RBM:
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16:17.13CIA-43-zhCN update
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16:18.28digmouse.....
16:18.36digmouse~lart CIA-43
16:18.36purlnabs the moon and broadsides CIA-43 with the sea of tranquility
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16:20.32suyingcu
16:21.47digmouseis local unitClass = select(2, UnitClass('player')) returning the 2nd arg of UnitClass(englishclass)?
16:22.05digmouseand if change to 1 will return the 1st one?
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16:23.08[Ammo]yes and yes
16:23.29[Ammo]but if you change it to one you might just as well local unitClass = UnitClass('player')
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16:25.14Funkeh`select returns all args after and including the specific integer
16:25.22Funkeh`and skips anything before
16:26.02CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77012 10MiniPet/README.txt:
16:26.02CIA-43MiniPet:
16:26.02CIA-43- Updated the known issues
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16:39.13Fisker-Funkeh` you must construct additional pylons
16:40.49Funkeh`what
16:41.12Seerahhuggles funky
16:41.58DARKGuyThat sounded very starcraft-ish
16:43.51digmouseToo many underlings, create more Overlords
16:44.07digmouseMore Supply Depot required.
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16:45.11DARKGuyNuclear Launch Detected.
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16:45.34Megalonen taro adun!
16:46.05digmouseMy life for Aiur!
16:46.27DARKGuyI’m about to drop the hammer and dispense some indiscriminate justice! *bang*
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16:47.33charondamn, libbars graduated to trunk and i missed the memo
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16:48.09nevcairieli even fixed your externals!
16:48.24charonyou did?
16:48.36nevcairielyea
16:48.39charonproblem is, i'm really tracking it on CF, i doubt you had the rights there
16:48.42Megalon*rewind* do you seek knowledge of time travel?
16:48.46charonbut thanks
16:49.16nevcairielwhat do i care about people that run 2 repos
16:49.19nevcairielremove it from here then
16:50.41nevcairieli only fixed all externals that showed up as wrong after my move
16:50.44nevcairielin the errors log :)
16:52.17mjcNev continues to rock and make me laugh simultaneously
16:52.40nevcairielis that a good thing?
16:53.30mjcyes
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16:53.46Arrowmaster'(DARKGuy) Nuclear Launch Detected.' i swear i fucking need to find the damn replay of one of the best SC games we ever had at a lan party
16:54.25DARKGuyArrowmaster: <.< find it, I'd love to see! SC LAN games were da bomb.
16:54.25charonnevcairiel: definitely not your fault. i'm just not sure i should nuke it from wowace while WAU is still the standard (not curse updater or the like)
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16:55.31mjcI wish wau mac would update other addins
16:55.32Arrowmasterfucking like 200 units worth of hydralisks in the middle of the map as the red guy was moving them to attack and you hear 'Nuclear Launch Detected' and hes screaming because its a map with narrow paths can he cant move his hydralisks in time because theres too many that theyre blocking each other
16:56.21DARKGuyXD
16:56.33DARKGuyHaha, hydralisk stampede
16:56.49Arrowmasterit was epic
16:57.01Arrowmaster1 ghost kills 200 units worth of hydralisks
16:57.53DARKGuyXD
16:57.58DARKGuyAwesome :P
16:58.18CIA-4303nevcairiel * r77013 10Bartender4/locale/ (enUS.lua koKR.lua zhCN.lua): Bartender4: fix some layout and other junk in the locale files
16:59.19DARKGuyArrowmaster: I once played SC with some friends over LAN, but most of our games were on a custon map with 93983893 crystal deposits around the base, 8 bases, 4 at the sides and 4 at the corners, and most of the games were full of protoss corsairs, not very fun ):
17:00.00Arrowmasterever seen a fleat of 24 battle crusers?
17:00.00Arrowmasterit was fun =D
17:00.03DARKGuyHaha, 24 BC, that'd rock
17:00.09DARKGuyI never got time to make them u.u
17:00.19Arrowmasterrush games suck
17:00.24DARKGuySo all I could do was to play as protoss and fill my whole base with cannons >:D
17:00.30Arrowmasterlol done that
17:00.37DARKGuyHaha, they get pissed about it
17:00.38DARKGuy:D
17:01.06Arrowmasterone friend got his base destroied so we allied and he built his zerg base inside my protoss base while i filled the plateu with cannons
17:01.23Arrowmasterthe other friend had to resort to nukes to get us
17:01.29digmousenevcairiel:ping
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17:01.34nevcairiel?
17:01.55digmousewhat's that tool u use to generate ace locale files?
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17:02.21nevcairiel<insert random text editor with UTF8 support here>
17:02.24durcynuh, cp enUS.lua asdf.lua?
17:02.34nevcairielsadly we dont have a real tool
17:02.38nevcairieli wish we had, though
17:02.42cladhairebabelfish.lua
17:02.44cladhairein perfectraid
17:02.52digmouseuh.. I heard there is one
17:03.00cladhairecommandline lua all that will scan all input files for L["blah"] and make a localization file for you
17:03.03DARKGuyArrowmaster: haha, I've done that too, usually when bases ally, it's pure pwnz0r >:D
17:03.03cladhaireif that's what you're asking about
17:03.11nevcairielyeah thats one thing to use
17:03.30nevcairieldoes it sync already translated files too? :P
17:03.42cladhaireit sets up metatables
17:03.45cladhaireand only does en_US
17:03.48DARKGuyTime to go lunch though, Bees Are Bees! ^_^.
17:03.51digmouseso, what about those locales with "automatically generated" tag in them? lua commandline tool?
17:03.52cladhaireso no, but it doesn't put the blanks into the other files
17:03.53DARKGuy<PROTECTED>
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17:03.56cladhairebut it could be altered to do it :P
17:04.16nevcairielthat would be kinda nifty, inserting all blanks into all the files, so translators know what is missing
17:04.33cladhaire*nod*
17:07.10itx`sorry, but is there any way to disable mobhealth library in pitbull 3.0?
17:07.58cladhairenevcairiel: wouldn't be too hard to do either just a bit of extra work over what I do now
17:08.02cladhaireI'll think about it :P
17:08.07cladhaireand by that i mean
17:08.10cladhairewhen i have time i'll do it
17:08.45Josh_Borkeand by that he means, FUCK OFF
17:08.53Josh_Borke:D
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17:10.01VonhintenHOME`what's wrong with the mobhealth stuff in pitbull?
17:10.31itx`i'm irritated by it :D
17:10.37itx`find it redundant
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17:14.33digmouse~seen ckknight
17:14.46purlckknight is currently on #norganna (3h 8m 13s) #wowuidev (3h 8m 13s) #wowace (3h 8m 13s) #curseforge (3h 8m 13s). Has said a total of 62 messages. Is idling for 1h 31m 23s, last said: 'okay then'.
17:14.53ckknightdigmouse: just say ckknight, ping
17:14.55ckknightI'll answer you
17:15.03digmouse:D
17:15.28digmouse1/300s updater interval for Dogtag is not slow enough though
17:15.38ckknighthrm?
17:15.45ckknightwhat did you experience?
17:15.46digmouseI still experience some freezeing issues tonight
17:15.54ckknightdarn
17:16.04digmousetested in hyjal tonight
17:16.49digmousewith PB raid enabled my fps fell to ~10 when AOE, and if disable it and use ozraid, fps steadily remains above 25
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17:21.44CIA-4303broliant * r77014 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (4 files):
17:21.44CIA-43FuBar_ConvergeFu: Added a "Misc" submenu to the tools menu.
17:21.44CIA-43- Added a rogue avoidance function to the misc. tools menu.
17:21.44CIA-43- Added functions for performing the hero membership rank-changing tasks.
17:23.23CIA-4303broliant * r77015 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ConvergeFu.lua:
17:23.23CIA-43FuBar_ConvergeFu: Added a "Misc" submenu to the tools menu.
17:23.23CIA-43- Added a rogue avoidance function to the misc. tools menu.
17:23.23CIA-43- Added functions for performing the hero membership rank-changing tasks.
17:23.56masterkillerhey the Inner Focus - Elune folks around today?
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17:24.46durcynwow, someone please kill that guy
17:26.58Vulcanusthere was talk of nuking that addon a while back
17:27.01Vulcanusnothing came of it tho
17:30.04Sarozwtf something is modifying my ingame healthbars now
17:30.12Sarozlike aloft but with aloft
17:31.29durcynSaroz: Skinner, because jncl is a moron
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17:32.07nevcairiel8 million Firefox3 downloads in 24 hours
17:32.11nevcairielwonder if that was a record
17:32.25Stanzillathere was no previous record for downloads
17:32.26Stanzillaso it is one
17:32.52NeoTronIkariam, isn't that the game ppl played here?
17:32.57nevcairielyes
17:33.03NeoTronaha from the company that did Bitefight
17:33.16NeoTronwhich I used to play until I realized it was a pretty monotonous game :P
17:33.16Sarozdurcyn, wtf
17:33.19NeoTronbut it was fun for a while
17:33.20vithosTekkub: i've been noticing that when i leave combat, Buffet will still try to use the in combat stuff for a few more seconds.  is that a blizzard bug?
17:33.59vithosi.e. health pot instead of food
17:34.18Tekkuby,ou looking at the icon on the playerframe to determine "leaving combat" or just asuming the second the mob dies you leave combat
17:34.22Tekkub?
17:34.36vithos-Combat in MSBT
17:34.59Sarozdurcyn, has a toggle?
17:35.35Tekkubit should rescan on PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED if your bags have changed
17:35.44Tekkubif they've not, it doesn't change the macro
17:36.09vithosyeah that's what confuses me, the macro shouldn't need rebuilding anyway so i don't know what it could have to do with your code
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17:40.43durcynSaroz: Yeah, it does
17:42.07Sarozaway it goes, it hides the raid icon
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17:51.29NeoTronvithos: since it isn't rebuilt, is it safe to say that Blizzard macros updates are lagged?
17:51.43NeoTronseems like the [combat] condition is delayed, nothing more
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17:55.28AckisWorkalert: wtb hellgate code from december 2007 PC gamer issue (since Arrowmaster is a big meanie head)
17:57.29Drundiai know that [flyable] lagged after zoning back in the days, but it seems to no any more, i wouldn't be surprised if [combat] is lagging option too
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18:07.21cncfanaticswtf ?
18:07.27cncfanaticsblood garnet is fucking 9g each on my server
18:08.32NivFreakbrilliant glass ftw
18:09.09vithosyeah, i guess that's it
18:09.52cncfanaticsI hate it
18:09.52cncfanaticsI make metas with em :p
18:09.59cncfanaticsway better then stupid brilliant glass
18:10.03cncfanaticsmetas sell for a 100% margin
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18:12.39Coreyare there any other addons like itemsync?
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18:27.20NeoTronso we hav this warrior tank (keyword tank) arguing that hit is equal to expertise in terms of threat generation
18:27.37NeoTronwe try to get him to realize that expertise is, in fact, 2x as good until you're dodge capped
18:27.41NeoTronit's an uphills battle
18:28.07Fisker-NeoTron that doesn't beat this warrior tank arguing that armor penetration is just like expertise
18:28.52Fisker-And because he wouldn't decide on a main and because he was a n00b he didn't get to raid
18:28.59Fisker-so he left and tried to join all the guilds better than us
18:29.01Fisker-...
18:29.36Fisker-what a day that was!
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18:35.19CIA-4303scorpio0920 * r77016 10Procodile/ (Procodile.toc locale/zhTW.lua):
18:35.19CIA-43Procodile:
18:35.19CIA-43- Added zhTW localization.
18:39.03NeoTronit's frustrating
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18:48.17VonhintenHOME`jesus fucking christ, hurricane of meetings today...
18:51.03CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77017 10/trunk/ (Baldrick/ DailyQuester/): Decided on a much better name than DailyQuester
18:51.47durcyni wish i could choke people with my mind.  like that guy.
18:52.26Josh_Borkelike darth vader?  that's what you mean?
18:52.43durcynYes.
19:01.19CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77018 10Baldrick/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
19:01.19CIA-43Baldrick:
19:01.19CIA-43- Renamed DailyQuester to Baldrick.lua
19:01.19CIA-43- Updated version to Beta
19:03.20DashkalFor those not paying attention in other channels, the 2.4.3 patch notes are up on the official site and mmo-champion.com
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19:04.40VulcanusHA warhorse at lv30 for paladins
19:04.44Vulcanustoo bad mine is 70 XD
19:05.01DashkalI like that change :p  I have a couple characters in the 30-40 bracket :p
19:05.10eddiedrizzthay guys im looking for a ui bundal for a warlock(demon spec) and a pally(prot) thay have to be usible at lowlvls like in the teens and up thay are on the same acount but diferent servers can anyone help
19:05.19DashkalNo more running across STV and Desolace
19:06.00VulcanusOMG YES CHEAT DEATH IS NERFED
19:07.08Fisker-who say's it's nerfed?
19:07.14Vulcanussays*
19:07.17Fisker-lala
19:07.18Vulcanuspatch notes says so
19:07.20Fisker-no
19:07.30Fisker-The initial effect is better
19:07.42Fisker-and the subsequent effect can be as good as the current effect
19:07.58Vulcanusffs, mod just randomly stopped storing savedvariables changes
19:08.04Dashkalbetter how?  Instead of taking none of the initial blow you take enough to hist 10%
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19:08.28CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77019 10LibSpecialEvents-LearnSpell-3.0/ (4 files):
19:08.28CIA-43LibSpecialEvents-LearnSpell-3.0: initial commit
19:08.28CIA-43- SpecialEvents-LearnSpell-2.0 ported to Rock ala LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0
19:08.31Fisker-oh u
19:08.43durcynoh, now i'm going to kill him
19:09.52StanzillaThe Eredar Twins will now award the same items regardless of which order they are killed in. < lol
19:09.54Stanzillafail
19:10.12nevcairiellol
19:10.53StanzillaAdded the following macro commands: /targetenemyplayer, /targetfriendplayer. < nice
19:11.15CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77020 10LibSpecialEvents-Mount-3.0/ (4 files):
19:11.15CIA-43LibSpecialEvents-Mount-3.0: initial commit
19:11.15CIA-43- SpecialEvents-Mount-2.0 ported to Rock ala LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0
19:11.50Megalon#
19:11.50Megalon# Summon Warhorse is now available at level 30.
19:11.52Megalonlol :C
19:11.58Stanzillayeah mounts at lvl 30
19:12.51Megalonoh, it's every mount
19:13.57nevcairielyea
19:15.13FinalXo.O when?
19:15.28masterkillerwow epic improvements for pallies! :P
19:15.38NeoTronwotlk change?
19:15.38DashkalFinalX: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
19:15.44Dashkal2.4.3
19:15.46NeoTronwow
19:15.58Pkekyo|g'mornin ladies
19:16.20NeoTronit really diminishes the value of druid travel forum unless that's chagned too
19:16.46Dashkalhow so?  instant cast and in combat are the real selling points
19:16.59Dashkalalso, very very cheap
19:17.08VonhintenHOME`travel form should be given at 20, when shaman get ghost wolf
19:17.10NeoTronNumerous flying non-combat pets have had their flight height modified to no longer skim along the ground: captured firefly, dragonhawk hatchlings, moths, owls, parrots, phoenix hatchling, spirit of summer, sprite darter, and tiny sporebat.
19:17.15NeoTronyey!
19:17.20NeoTronthat's awesome
19:17.21DashkalVonhintenHOME`: I certainly wouldn't complain if they did that
19:17.36NeoTronI've always loved my darter and always hated how it is barely above the ground
19:17.44Dashkalghost wolf has always bugged me, and the fact that TF is instant is the only thing it has on that
19:17.47DARKGuyfinallyyyyyyyyyy
19:18.15NeoTronahaha nerf of "change weapon while casting": Equipping an item will now cancel any spell cast currently in progress.
19:18.56Apocowow those timer functions are interesting
19:19.18ApocoCurse of Shadows: This spell has been removed.
19:19.19Apocohaha
19:20.36cncfanaticsApoco: curse of elements does all 4 now
19:20.41Apocoyeah
19:20.43Apocobut thats still funny
19:20.52Apocoboost locks dps more plz
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19:23.36NeoTronHmm "The Eredar Twins will now award the same items regardless of which order they are killed in."
19:23.39VonhintenHOME`magisters nerf
19:23.50NeoTronI wonder if that means more or less
19:23.55VulcanusIm mocking every warlock I have on my msn right now since they're all cocks when it comes to Curse of Elements
19:24.21NeoTronVulcanus: you know, of course, that this will benefit warlock dps?
19:24.30NeoTronsince one warlock will be freed up to do other curses
19:24.48VulcanusSo? I'm a Mage and I get my Fire damage, I don't give a good gorram about Warlock dps :p
19:25.59NeoTronwe always use CoE anyway
19:26.01NeoTronso yeah
19:26.12NeoTron"Winterspring Ice Thistle Matriarchs and Patriarchs may now drop Thick Yeti Fur." <-- I never _knew_ they didn't. lol
19:26.52VulcanusWell the main warlock friend of mine was the Warlock CL and he ordered everybody not to use CoE because and I quote "fuck Mages" XD so now he has to change his tune or fuck his own dps XD
19:28.19felesyaNeoTron, where did you read it with eredar twins?
19:28.23Azurewrathnoe CoE = minus dkp for all warlocks.. problem solved :p
19:28.27Azurewrath-e
19:28.49Vulcanushehe ye but Im not in the same guild ;p and now i dont need to hassle with it anymore
19:30.42NeoTronVulcanus: if you only rolled with one mage that's fine
19:31.06Vulcanusvaries how many mages we bring, we usually don't have too many locks tho
19:31.08NeoTronfelesya: Patch notes, linked above (for 2.4.3)
19:31.23NeoTronand it's very likely the order is: CoS, CoR, CoE
19:34.03Gnarfoz# Mycah of Sporeggar has discovered how to create 28 slot herb bags.     <-- w00t
19:34.23NivFreakabout freaking time
19:34.43cncfanaticsthey have 28 slot regular bags now :p
19:34.48cncfanaticsthey cost 2800 gold each though
19:34.53cncfanaticsfor the ones who have too much gold
19:34.55Gnarfozwhat
19:34.55Gnarfozwhere
19:35.01Gnarfozgief
19:35.04durcynwas it 28?  i heard 24
19:35.09CIA-4303cwdg * r77021 10Bartender4/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
19:35.09CIA-43Bartender4:
19:35.09CIA-43continue to work
19:35.11cncfanatics24 then, my bad
19:35.12cncfanaticsHaris Pilton has launched a new line of bags and jewelry.  Check her out in the World’s End Tavern!
19:35.12NivFreakMounts at 30?! Yes, it’s true: Apprentice Riding and mounts are now available at level 30.  Training costs 35 gold.
19:35.12Gnarfoz(I just upgraded to 20, though ;)
19:35.15NivFreakhahah
19:35.26durcyncncfanatics: i don't know, ptr isn't up yet
19:35.30cncfanaticsHaris Pilton
19:36.04durcyn24 would make more sense though
19:36.07CIA-4303cwdg * r77022 10Bartender4/locale/zhCN.lua:
19:36.07CIA-43Bartender4:
19:36.07CIA-43fix a mistake
19:36.21NivFreakEquipping an item will now cancel any spell cast currently in progress.
19:36.22NivFreakwtf
19:36.25NivFreakspellsurge nerf?
19:36.37durcynNivFreak: spellsurge, evocation, relic twisting..
19:36.49Gnarfoz# Thori’dal, the Star’s Fury is now Unique as intended. <-- lol, did a second one drop at all in the meantime? ;D
19:36.54NivFreakgod damnit
19:37.00NivFreakI just farmed the 20 spirit weapon enchant too
19:37.11NivFreakwhy do they break shit like that
19:37.12NivFreak...
19:37.13Vulcanusthe slash commands arent localised are they?
19:37.27Vulcanusas in, /use
19:37.39Azurewratherm... Evocation does no longer use spirit.. since a looooong time
19:37.43Gnarfozenglish ones work in all clients
19:37.50Gnarfozalthough other clients have localized aliases
19:37.59AckisWorkcncfanatics: 24 slot normal bags? really?
19:38.00NivFreakAzurewrath: innervate
19:38.01Vulcanusgood, need macrotext and would rather not have it break ;p thanks
19:38.14AzurewrathNivFreak: ah ok..
19:38.19NivFreakbut I guess the impact is minmal there
19:38.22NivFreakminimal
19:38.35AckisWorkand is ptr up?
19:38.41durcynnot yet
19:38.45Gnarfozwhat's with the new target commands? what do they not target? pets? totems?
19:38.49NeoTronbut is the ptr up?
19:38.58durcyn...not...yet
19:39.02NeoTronwhat about now?
19:39.14durcynchoke yourself for me =(
19:39.42AckisWorkis it up now?
19:39.57Arrowmasteroh wow i was afk and didnt notice LordFarlander commits, who wants me to delete them and tell him not to make new versions of libraries nobody but him will use?
19:40.07Vulcanusmemememememe
19:40.20durcynArrowmaster: i'll give you a dollar
19:40.22Vulcanusand shoot him for renaming "DailyQuester" to "Baldrick"
19:40.33Arrowmasterill do it if op says they wont see anything
19:40.36Vulcanuswhich is just wtf
19:40.45durcynif you can get 'broliant' with him, bonus points
19:40.52Vulcanus\n <[Ammo]> yes go ahead arrow
19:40.52AckisWorkwhy would he convert libraries to rock?
19:40.53CIA-4303scorpio0920 * r77023 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua:
19:40.53CIA-43AtlasLoot:
19:40.53CIA-43- Fixed typo.
19:41.13NeoTronbecause he's the new Alar?
19:41.23AckisWorkwhat happened to the old alar?
19:41.29NeoTronsure he's still around
19:41.33NeoTronjust got a buddy now?
19:41.38AckisWorkI wanted to be the new alar
19:41.39durcyntwo buddies
19:41.42VulcanusAt least my unknown mods serve some form of purpose and isn't guild/person specific :p
19:41.55AckisWorkI have a guild specific mod on the svn :P
19:42.00VulcanusFALE
19:42.03AckisWorkcan I be alar #3?
19:42.16Vulcanusbtw everybody go download FuBar_InstanceInfoFu
19:42.17durcynwhy.
19:42.24Vulcanusit tracks what instances you are saved to
19:42.29Vulcanusawsum mod keke
19:42.45AckisWorkVulcanus: wow I wished the default UI had something like that built into it...
19:42.53Vulcanusshut up XD
19:42.56AckisWorksnickers and hides
19:42.58Vulcanusthis thing prints it on fubar
19:43.02VulcanusSO NYAH
19:43.08Vulcanusalso HA
19:43.10durcyni really hope you trip and fall soon.
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19:43.16Vulcanusmy mod tracks it across all your chars on the same realm
19:43.21VulcanusCAN YOU PRECIOUS DEFAULT UI DO THAT
19:43.22VulcanusHUH
19:43.23VulcanusNO
19:43.25VulcanusDIDNT THINK SO
19:43.37AckisWorkno but my memory can
19:43.38AckisWork:P
19:43.43AckisWorkI'm saved to... Sunwell right now
19:43.50AckisWorksee I didn't need to log in even! O M G! ahh :P
19:43.51AckisWorklol
19:43.51VulcanusI made it for a blonde girl in my guild. Nuff said.
19:43.55AckisWorkps just busting your balls
19:44.00VulcanusI know d00d
19:44.12durcyndon't apologize.  it's stupid and should be punished.
19:44.14CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77024 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua:
19:44.14CIA-43MiniPet:
19:44.14CIA-43- Check for if GetItemFamily returns nil
19:44.23Vulcanusgo away durc, you're useless here
19:44.39AckisWorkuseless like tits on a man?
19:44.42Vulcanusmy mom said I was cool :( so there
19:45.18Vulcanusgah need to get back to my own damn work :p
19:45.20NivFreakwtf
19:45.24NivFreakis that a rogue buff or nerf?
19:45.27NivFreak<PROTECTED>
19:45.42Starinniaits both
19:45.48Starinniadepends on the rogue
19:46.32NivFreakhow many rogues actually cap resil?
19:46.52Starinniaat least 1, cause this one rogue in my guild does
19:47.07jy`"i dont want resi, i want to OS ppl while they are drinking"
19:47.52jy`"i dont want to stunlock, i want to dps"
19:48.17jy`a rogue with resi is a pain in the ass
19:48.27jy`a rogue without resi is dead
19:48.35jy`or expending cd
19:48.36Vulcanuscritting hammer of wrath for 89 damage makes kitty sad
19:48.36Drundiait says 90% is still s cap
19:48.38kd3my 2.4.2-0.4.3 interface diff is about to get mailed off. anyone not on my list want a copy? /msg me an email address
19:48.43jy`and healer mana
19:48.45Drundiaeven if you cap resilience crit reduction
19:48.48ckknightkd3: am I in your list?
19:48.53kd3yes
19:49.19AckisWorkkd3: That's the changes from 2.4.2 -> 2.4.3 for UI?
19:49.23kd3yes
19:50.21kd3last call for the 2.4.2-0.4.3 UI diff email
19:51.14Gnarfozgot my msg?
19:51.16NivFreakwow
19:51.20NivFreakthe nerfed the shit out of MrT
19:51.39charonit's called "practice"
19:52.07Gnarfozkd3 ignores me :<
19:52.18kd3if you messaged me, I got you
19:52.33aestilso, in my guild, we have an 'escort'
19:52.33Gnarfozkk
19:53.25aestilso our pally tank posts that he's out sick for a few days, which will affect the next raid.
19:53.26aestilraid leader responds
19:53.30aestil'stop catching diseases.  prostitutes are bad, mmkay?'
19:54.02Vulcanusyou have a real prostitute in your guild? XD
19:54.37jy`i think hes a customer in this case
19:54.50CIA-4303arrowmaster * r77025 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): .LibSpecialEvents-LearnSpell-3.0: move into LibLordFarlander-1.0 since NOBODY else is going to use this
19:54.59jy`mmh nevermind
19:55.12Gnarfozlol
19:55.23CIA-4303arrowmaster * r77026 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): .LibSpecialEvents-Mount-3.0: move into LibLordFarlander-1.0 since NOBODY else is going to use this
19:55.33aestilshe's turning 21 soon.
19:55.35aestilits kinda creepy imo.
19:56.32VulcanusPictorial evidence of abovementioned gender claim or begone with thee.
19:57.23aestili'm not her myspace friend, but my wife is.
19:57.36aestiland she works for an escort agency in chicago, and her myspace as near nude pictures of her.
19:57.42aestili suppose it could be some elaborate scheme
19:57.49nevcairielArrowmaster: heh
19:57.50aestilit could be some fat middle aged guy.
19:57.57DashkalYou got Meghan?
19:57.59aestilbut its not like anyone in the guild is having sex with her.
19:58.09NivFreakHunters: Using an instant ability after Steady Shot will no longer lock out auto shot.
19:58.12NivFreakis that a hunter macro nerf?
19:58.22Arrowmasterbug fix
19:58.38NivFreakweren't the exploiting that behavior for the 3:2 macro?
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19:59.01cncfanaticscan still stop autoshot if you want anyway ?
19:59.10cncfanaticsand WHY exactly are they macro playing ? :s
19:59.12cncfanaticsthats lame
19:59.18Arrowmastersounds like the bug where triggering killcommand would lock up autoshot
19:59.18cncfanaticsit would be like a rogue macro'ing his dps rotations
19:59.25CIA-4303alar 07Ace3 * r77027 10AlarModules/AlarShared/ (14 files in 3 dirs):
19:59.25CIA-43AlarShared: Massive folder and files reorganization
19:59.25CIA-43Now only AlarAddon and AlarCore are mandatory
19:59.25CIA-43core.xml loads just the previous ones
19:59.25CIA-43lib.xml loads everything
19:59.26CIA-43all other xmls just loads their counterpart
19:59.26NeoTronaestil: I'm still waiting for the "punch line" of your story?
19:59.28CIA-43widgets are now one for file and in a new folder
19:59.34ArrowmasterHES BACK!
19:59.49NivFreakArrowmaster: ahh
20:00.42aestilNeoTron: the punch line is that we have a prostitue in our guild, and the raid leader was making , lol, fun of her.
20:00.50aestil10 point for him
20:01.07Arrowmasterwtf?
20:01.09ArrowmasterCurse of Elements: This spell now applies to Arcane and Shadow damage, as well as Frost and Fire.
20:01.11CIA-4303alar 07Ace3 * r77028 10AlarModules/AlarShared/AlarShared-3.0/AlarAddon-3.0.lua: AlarShared: Added AlarAddon-3.0.lua
20:01.21Arrowmasterblizzard cant even get their PTR patch notes right
20:01.26Arrowmasterthere is no Curse of Elements spell
20:01.41NeoTronyeah I saw it was renamed in the PTR patch noted
20:01.55Arrowmasterthey actually renamed it too?
20:02.00Arrowmasterfrom Curse of the Elements?
20:02.02NeoTronthe ptr notes said it I think
20:02.07NivFreaknot that I saw
20:02.09NivFreakCoS is gone
20:02.10AckisWorkwtb info about 24 slot bags and new tailoring patterns
20:02.14NivFreakCoE gets the same buffs
20:02.21sylvanaaralar.xml
20:02.35NeoTronah nm
20:02.40NeoTronit's still Curse of the Elementa
20:03.08CIA-4303alar 07Ace3 * r77029 10AlarModules/AlarShared/AlarShared-3.0/AlarLib-3.0.lua: AlarShared: and removed AlarLib-3.0.lua
20:03.47NeoTronI await the change "Pet's are no longer affected by any AoE attacks" that would make pets viable for warlock dps
20:04.05NivFreakhaha
20:04.12Arrowmasterwtf is with this Demonic Sacrifice change?
20:04.17NeoTronconsidering they put empowered imp into the destruction tree it seems they think we should use imps for high tier destro dps
20:04.23NeoTroninstead of saccing a pet
20:04.32NeoTronbut there's no way in hell an imp can live in any serious content today
20:04.38Vulcanusok I'm having problems using LibPeriodicTable-3.1 in my mod, how do I instantiate it (if that's the correct term)? I'm running disembedded so it should be loaded
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20:05.26Vulcanusin Ace3, if it's worth mentioning
20:06.00AckisWorkhttp://www.iron-circle.com/ best guild page imo
20:06.37Ozgulimaybe the type of content is changing?
20:06.49Ozgulisame way as BC is different than vanilla wow
20:07.10ArrowmasterVulcanus: LibStub("LibPeriodicTable-3.1")(whatever you want to lookup)
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20:07.36Vulcanusoh, I was trying to local it into a var, that would explain it. Thank you :)
20:08.33Arrowmasteryou can do that too
20:09.09Arrowmasterlocal LPT = LibStub("LibPeriodicTable-3.1"); LPT(whatever you want to lookup)
20:09.51Vulcanusthat gave me a nil error, but meh I only need the :GetSetTable() once so probs pointless to make it into a var
20:10.03hkyeakleyQuestion: Is there an addon that will alert you when a certain ability/trinket/whatever procs?
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20:10.40VulcanusProcodile could probs do it, it doesn't work with Seal of Command, dunno about other seals, should work with trinkets and such tho
20:10.53hkyeakleyI'm using scrolling combat text, but sometimes I miss seeing an ability trigger when I'm looking at a different part of the screen.,
20:11.13Vulcanusif you're using MSBT you could try adding a custom trigger and make it play a sound
20:11.49hkyeakleyI've been reading about powershifting and the 2 piece bonus on T4 feral druids armor. I've been wanting to try powershifting after the proc to see if it significantly increases my DPS.
20:11.58hkyeakleyMSBT?
20:13.01VulcanusMik's Scrolling Battle Text
20:13.24hkyeakleyah, cool.
20:13.51hkyeakleyI'm using the in game scrolling combat text. I'll give MSBT a try. Thanks.
20:14.01NeoTroninteresting fact about the CoE/CoS merge => affliction warlocks will now be very very close to matching the DPS or destro locks in a typical raid
20:14.05Vulcanusnp
20:14.22ArrowmasterNeoTron: why?
20:14.26Vulcanusonly if they get the destro lock to use coe
20:14.38Vulcanusbut if theres only one, well then they still lose the curse
20:14.50NeoTronVulcanus: doh. fail2understand
20:14.55NeoTronaff locks have malediction
20:14.59NeoTronnow they give 3% more shadow dmg
20:15.12NeoTronshadow/arcane rather
20:15.20NeoTronsoon it'll be 3% more shadow, arcane, fire and frost
20:15.36Arrowmasteroh, when counting the damage increase from the curse
20:15.47NeoTronyes, counting RDPS
20:15.49AckisWorkthey need to add holy damage to that as well
20:15.56AckisWorkmake smite builds more viable :D
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20:16.58NeoTronmind you we've had an aff lock from the very start in SWP
20:17.02Vulcanusugh, I have to turn page file back on... firefox + wow = computer whining about out of mem even with 4gb ram XD
20:17.07NeoTronwe need the survivability from it
20:17.19NeoTronVulcanus: vista? :P
20:17.29NeoTronor XP which seems to whine about out of mem when there's 1.5 GB out of 2 free
20:17.45ngiponVulcanus: FF3?
20:18.00Vulcanusyes Vista, and it whines when 3 out of 4 gb is used. Also yes FF3, its using 180mb atm
20:18.15Vulcanusmake that 160
20:18.29ArrowmasterFF3 has been really good about memory usage for me
20:18.53Arrowmasterespecially when having a lot of tabs full of a lot of pictures open
20:19.00VulcanusI havent gotten around to doing a clean install, so this is an upgrade of upgrades of beta builds that was allowed to use FF2 settings
20:19.11Vulcanusneed to backup adblock and all kinds of shait
20:19.31Vulcanusand noscript, god Im so not doing that to all the websites of the itnertubes again
20:19.32VulcanusXD
20:19.34Arrowmasterdo you have that many custom things in adblock that you need to back it up?
20:19.39Vulcanusyes XD
20:19.53Arrowmasterwell you can uninstall FF3 and not have it delete your profile
20:20.04Vulcanusbut then it wouldnt be a clean install would it ;p
20:20.17Arrowmasteri dont know, thats what i did
20:20.20VulcanusI surf a few norwegian sites who use naming conventions that don't get caught by the EasyList and EasyFilter filters
20:20.30Vulcanusfor ads
20:22.30Fisker-It's Fx
20:22.57Chompersit suuure is
20:23.10Fisker-Chompers
20:23.15Chompersyeah?
20:23.17Fisker-What does your scouter say about my powerlevel?
20:23.25Chompersscouter
20:23.29Chomperswhat is that
20:23.41Fisker-...
20:23.46VulcanusITS UNDER .9000!
20:24.13Fisker-you don't even have a scouter
20:24.22Chompersi do not
20:24.33Chompershow much are they and why shoud i own one
20:25.20Fisker-YOU HAVE A SCOUTER Chompers
20:25.23Fisker-Vulcanus does not
20:25.31Fisker-also
20:25.36Fisker-because i can see the display from my side
20:25.42Fisker-i can tell you it's well above 9000
20:25.45Chompers1 badge away from buying that nice paladin chest
20:25.50Chompersgive me one of yours fisker
20:26.09Fisker-*success* fuck you, you won the d20 roll
20:26.11Chompersyour chest or a badge, both are cool with me
20:26.31Fisker-ooh
20:26.36Fisker-exposes his chest for Chompers
20:26.37Fisker-do want
20:26.51Chompersi am liking this
20:26.53ChompersTELL ON ONE
20:27.24Corganpounces upon Fisker-
20:28.03CorganFisker- http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5869/cre0682ee92smlea5ot0.png
20:28.17Fisker-old news is old
20:28.24Fisker-hi Corgan btw
20:28.28Corganhi
20:28.31AckisWorkI just spent $3k on my van last week and now they're saying I have to spend like another grand on the shit... fucking auto dealership pieces of shit bastards
20:28.37Fisker-i got banned from #wowhead
20:28.39Fisker-and i was liek
20:28.40Fisker-k
20:28.47CorganI noticed like
20:28.48Corgan2 days ago
20:28.54Fisker-madness
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20:29.29CorganI realized that I wasn't getting my regular greetings from you
20:29.30AckisWorkanyone here know about cars?
20:29.42Fisker-they suck Ackis
20:29.49CorganGet a bike.
20:30.02AckisWork:P
20:30.13AckisWorkyou can't shag on a bike now can you? :P
20:30.28Corganhttp://www.supercycles.co.uk/images/unicycle_onza_trials_uni.jpg
20:30.30Corgan^^
20:30.30Starinniaactually you can... :P
20:30.32CorganOn that one you can.
20:31.14CorganI saw Fisker- yesterday on his hot new http://www.have-you-met-ted.com/wp-content/uploads/radio-flyer-classic-red-tricycle.jpg
20:31.21CorganI wanted to shag him right then and there.
20:33.37CIA-4303cwdg * r77030 10Bartender4/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
20:33.38CIA-43Bartender4:
20:33.38CIA-43My work is finished.
20:34.08NeoTronnice change note
20:34.49Kuosi:D
20:34.49digmousehe's not prepared lol
20:35.19digmouseoh a 7:0 win in AV
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20:44.01CIA-4303ackis * r77031 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua:
20:44.01CIA-43TIRaid:
20:44.01CIA-43- Use item ID for output instead of item names
20:44.01CIA-43- Make the Kalecgos encounter display his name and not the demon dude inside
20:44.01CIA-43- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luca -p)
20:44.17Azurewrathmhm.. can BT4  switch on/off the macro names for single bars? Until then i have to stick with BT3..
20:44.56nevcairielyes, it can
20:45.05NeoTronso why  are they putting empowered imp in the destruction tree? Even if we assume the imp cannot die
20:45.14Azurewrathnevcairiel: nice :)
20:45.15NeoTronhe'll run out of mana
20:45.30VulcanusBecause you touch yourself at night, and Warlocks deserve a goddamn nerf
20:45.30VulcanusXD
20:45.55NeoTronlet me just tell you what you deserve to hear: Shut the fuck off if you have nothing constructive to say
20:46.10VulcanusShut off? ;p
20:46.17AckisWorkSTFO?
20:46.33durcynobviously he meant to say shove off
20:46.39Vulcanusor shut up
20:46.45durcynno, no, not that
20:47.09NeoTronwhatever
20:47.53nevcairielplease, keep it down
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20:48.16DrundiaNeoTron, do you even have basic idea of Imp mana lasting?
20:48.52Drundiahave a single "Imp OOM" whiner checked his raid buffed regeneration rate?
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20:49.24Arrowmasterimp regen rate sucks
20:49.25AckisWorkaren't imps only good for stam buffs for main tanks?
20:50.01Drundiathe fact is that it doesn't
20:50.04dylanmThese days yes. Having a pet out otherwise is silly. Also, you should be destro.
20:50.18NeoTronactually: http://wotlkwiki.50webs.com/warlock.html?b=6z0135c3011352103m5105301522d1050235000300
20:50.44dylanmNeoTron: I agree that some of the new talents seem randomly placed.
20:51.50NeoTronhttp://wotlkwiki.50webs.com/warlock.html?b=6z0135c3011352103m5005321522d1050135000300 actually
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20:52.25Drundiadoubt you need 3/3 mana feed for imo
20:52.26Drundiaimp
20:52.56NeoTronI had an imp build befre
20:53.03NeoTronback when imps got a 1.0 firebolt mind you
20:53.14NeoTronand with 3/3 mana feed I had to tap for the imp before I needed to tap for me
20:53.37Drundiasoul leech to demonic power
20:53.49Drundiawell 1.0
20:54.23Arrowmasterlol @ that talent calc, all the 51 points suck for raiding
20:54.47Drundiatell blizzard
20:54.50AckisWorkI'm not happy with them adding a cool down on CoH :(
20:56.08ChompersNeoTron, at what point does the destro build become viable?
20:56.24Chompersis there some sort of point you need to reach
20:59.22Arrowmasterwhy the hell did they fuck up demonology
20:59.48durcynChompers: 4pc t6, 18% crit
20:59.48Arrowmastersoullink required for unholy power required for demonic sacrifice and master demonologist
21:03.05durcynArrowmaster: the only thing you lose is master summoner though, since fel intellect and fel stamina were merged into fel vitality
21:03.24durcynand you gain SL, it's actually not terrible
21:03.25Arrowmasterforced into wasting points on unholy power though
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21:03.54Arrowmastercant go 21 demo and get sac and master summoner
21:03.59Arrowmasterwhich will be missed
21:04.12durcyni'm more annoyed by destruction changes though, fire can blow me
21:04.26Arrowmasterover all after looking at these talent trees i want to quit
21:04.30Arrowmasterthey suck so much
21:04.34ApocoCIA-43 broke?
21:05.48durcynArrowmaster: 52/0/19 and 3/23/45 seem viable so far
21:06.06Arrowmaster3/23/45? wtf is that
21:06.32durcynit's 0/21/40 for people who hate fire =(
21:06.35durcynsigh.
21:07.14Kuosi0/21/40 for ppl who like skill based dps cycles
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21:07.48durcynwhatever.  imposing more wasted GCD time isn't the way to fix dps classes
21:08.21Arrowmastercorruption with an kinda cast time is just wrong
21:10.04Arrowmasterok for 52/0/19 you putting 4 points into cataclysm or devastation?
21:11.25Arrowmastersoul depletion just looks fucking retarded unless they add boss fights that require mana draining which if they do would be even more retarded
21:12.30Arrowmastersame with deaths embrace, buff shadowbolt with a high affliction talent.......
21:13.38Arrowmasterand we all know almost everything elite is going to be immune to cripple
21:14.19Arrowmasteror else its going to be the same as TBC leveling was as affliction, solo every group quest where stuff wasnt immune to fear
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21:14.46Arrowmasterjust fucking retarded talent trees
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21:18.30CIA-4303apoco * r77032 10RBM_Sunwell/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
21:18.30CIA-43RBM_Sunwell:
21:18.31CIA-43- New: Kiljaden Plugin (untested in raid environment, will test tonight)
21:18.31CIA-43- Change: All Boss Mods now use the self.enrage time api
21:18.31CIA-43- Change: All Boss Mods now properly track deaths of the bosses themselves and stop running properly per the core update yesterday.
21:18.34CIA-43- Removed: Range Check Frame from Felmyst
21:18.52Apocowow 20 minutes late
21:18.53CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77034 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/LibHelper-1.0/:
21:18.53CIA-43LibLordFarlander-1.0:
21:18.53CIA-43- LibHelper-1.0 unneeded as it was renamed to LibLordFarlander-1.0
21:18.54CIA-4303cwdg * r77033 10LoggerHead/ (3 files):
21:18.54CIA-43LoggerHead:
21:18.54CIA-43Fixed missing locals
21:18.57CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77035 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/LibHelper-ItemList-1.0/:
21:18.58CIA-43LibLordFarlander-1.0:
21:19.02CIA-43- LibHelper-ItemList-1.0 unneeded as it was renamed to LibLordFarlander-ItemList-1.0
21:19.04CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77036 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/LibSpecialEvents-LearnSpell-3.0/:
21:19.06CIA-43LibLordFarlander-1.0:
21:19.08CIA-43- Well if that's the feeling on it than it can just go away completely
21:19.10CIA-4303LordFarlander * r77037 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/LibSpecialEvents-Mount-3.0/:
21:19.12CIA-43LibLordFarlander-1.0:
21:19.15ArrowmasterWIN!
21:19.16CIA-43- Well if that's the feeling on it than it can just go away completely
21:19.29VulcanusXD
21:20.16Vulcanusso why is ClassSpell data in LPT prefixed with a - and how do I make it only return spellIDs? O.o
21:20.39Arrowmasterno clue, dont even know how it get into LPT
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21:21.13Vulcanusthey datamine wowhead for it it seems
21:21.26Vulcanusguess Ill have to try some form of substr function
21:23.11Azurewrathmhm, is the snv -> zip package time still max 20 minutes? Because the latest BT4 revision is still not up..
21:23.25Azurewrath*svn .. need more coffee
21:23.27ArrowmasterAzurewrath: no its min 20 minutes
21:23.57AckisWorkit's been slow latley (at least it seems that way)
21:24.15ArrowmasterVulcanus: yeah i dont even know who added the class spell stuff to LPT or why they did so i have no clue about any details of it
21:24.15digmouseslow as purl these days
21:24.21Azurewrathhu? 20mins min makes no sense.. since it's a cronjob every x minutes afaik
21:25.35DashkalAzurewrath: if the previous task hasn't finished yet, it skips a cycle
21:26.50Diaoo_O
21:26.56Diaosomeone named a lib after themselves again?
21:26.57Azurewrathmhm.. zipping a few hundred or thousand kilobyte-sized files shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes max on a decent server
21:27.07ckknightLibCkknightIsAwesome-5.0
21:27.11ckknightyea, Diao
21:27.17durcynno, he named it LibHelper
21:27.17ckknightI'm just too awesome.
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21:27.36Diaolol
21:27.36durcynsomeone else came behind him and put his name on it, since he's the only one who uses the pile of garbage
21:27.49CIA-4303saroz * r77038 10RaidCooldowns/Cooldowns.lua: RaidCooldowns: Challenging Roar & Challenging Shout
21:27.49AckisWork~nickometer LibCkknightIsAwesome
21:27.56VulcanusXD
21:28.07ckknightlol.
21:29.20AckisWorkLibDryCode-1.0
21:29.21AckisWork:D
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21:29.51Dashkal*smirk*
21:29.57AckisWorklol
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21:30.34CIA-4303saroz * r77039 10RaidCooldowns/Cooldowns.lua: RaidCooldowns: Mana Tide Totem <3
21:32.19AckisWorkhttp://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/05/cassini_nears_fouryear_mark.html?nm
21:32.25AckisWorkI just *mooned* the wowace channel
21:32.27AckisWorklawls
21:33.12CIA-4303saroz * r77040 10RaidCooldowns/Cooldowns.lua: RaidCooldowns: w00ps
21:35.44AckisWorkhttp://gizmodo.com/5017416/microsoft-mistakes-browser-war-for-browser-party-sends-firefox-a-lovely-cake
21:35.45AckisWorklol
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21:47.16Funkeh`~framexml
21:47.16purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
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22:08.02digmousewhats the meaning of "capped" in "The Warsong Gulch flag can no longer be picked up at the same time as a flag is capped"
22:08.21VonhintenHOME`captured
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22:08.39VonhintenHOME`as in "capture the flag", the type of game that WSG is
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22:09.10VonhintenHOME`they really shouldn't be using slang in patch notes
22:09.10digmouseso that's saying: the flag cannot be picked up the same time the flag is captured?
22:09.17digmousekk
22:09.24VonhintenHOME`yeah
22:09.28digmousethx
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22:20.06CIA-4403funkydude * r77044 10StatBlocks_Ammo/ (Locales/ StatBlocks_Ammo.lua StatBlocks_Ammo.toc): StatBlocks_Ammo: more recoding cleanups, removed percent option, kill blizzard bag ammo count.
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22:46.08CIA-4403cwdg * r77045 10Bartender4/ (Bar.lua locale/enUS.lua locale/zhCN.lua):
22:46.08CIA-44Bartender4:
22:46.08CIA-44Fixed missing locals
22:51.14CIA-4403Tunga * r77046 10BuffBot/: Created folder for BuffBot
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23:00.52p3limIs it possible to have a tooltip scroll-able? Like if the tooltip goes from top of screen then off screen at the bottom
23:02.05Funkeh`no
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23:03.31dylanmWhen does that happen?
23:03.50Funkeh`when it does !
23:06.25CIA-4403Tunga * r77047 10BuffBot/ (BuffBot.lua BuffBot.toc):
23:06.25CIA-44BuffBot:
23:06.25CIA-44Added files. This is in early development.
23:09.53p3limWhat about a OnMouseWheel event on the tooltip, then move the anchor up and down accordingly?
23:10.07p3limWould that work? Or can it even be done?
23:10.19Arrowmasterno
23:10.26p3limAit then
23:10.43Arrowmasterperty sure tooltip objects dont have that handler
23:12.10dylanmIt inherits from Frame.
23:13.02dylanmBut if your tooltip is that large then someone is wrong.
23:13.18Arrowmasterhmm seems it can
23:13.57Arrowmasterhappens with mendeleev
23:14.11Arrowmasterif you shift mouseover a tradeskill item
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23:17.11Arrowmasteri wonder....
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23:22.09CIA-4403jncl * r77048 10Skinner/ (Skinner.lua UIElements2.lua): Skinner: Updated Nameplates code
23:23.53p3limYou know pStats? The list of addons can get long, and on small monitors ive seen it go off screen
23:23.55p3limthats why
23:24.13Arrowmasterlocal f = CreateFrame("ScrollFrame", "GameTooltipScrollFrame", GameTooltip); f:SetAllPoints(GameTooltip); f:SetClampedToScreen(true); f:SetScrollChild(GameTooltip)
23:24.16Arrowmasteri wonder if that would work
23:24.38p3limI can test if after this heroic (last boss atm)
23:25.04Arrowmasteri have no clue if it would
23:25.43Arrowmasterlooking at some of the templates for scrollframes and i dont see anything needed to actually make it work other than stuff mucking with visable scroll bars and such
23:26.51Funkeh`I use a user selected cut off point in statblocks memory
23:27.46CIA-4403Tunga * r77049 10BuffBot/BuffBot.lua:
23:27.46CIA-44BuffBot
23:27.46CIA-44Removed shift+click functionality, broke some other stuff.
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23:29.17CIA-4403funkydude * r77050 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: StatBlocks_Ammo: Let's not destroy bags for users with default ui's
23:29.25p3limDont need an actual scroll bar
23:29.35p3limwith mousewheen on the tooltip itself
23:29.38p3limwheel*
23:40.30p3limArrowmaster: http://ace.pastey.net/89699
23:40.51Arrowmasterlol figured
23:42.03dylanmp3lim: Uh, did you set the scroll frame as a child of GameTooltip?
23:42.13dylanmDon't do that.
23:42.28Arrowmasterlocal f = CreateFrame("ScrollFrame", "GameTooltipScrollFrame", UIParent); f:SetAllPoints(GameTooltip); f:SetClampedToScreen(true); f:SetScrollChild(GameTooltip)
23:42.30Arrowmastertry that
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23:45.11p3limActually I just found out something
23:45.18p3limIts a tooltip, you cant get your mouse over it
23:45.29p3limUnless its put under your mouse
23:45.29Arrowmasteroh yeah
23:47.00p3limSo, maybe make the frame its attached to let it scroll
23:47.12p3limWell that would be easy actually
23:47.26Funkeh`the only way you're going to do it is make a scrollable frame
23:47.30p3limOnMouseWheelUp/Down and change the anchor of the tooltip
23:47.40Funkeh`from scratch
23:47.51p3limHow come?
23:48.02ckknightthat's not necessary
23:48.02Funkeh`because there's no other way?
23:48.17p3limLike the scroll frame on any minimap addon
23:48.19ckknightp3lim: okay, what are you hovering over to show the tooltip?
23:48.45p3limwell, its the pStats tooltip, which is anchored to MiniMapTracking frame
23:48.49ckknightp3lim: you could put an OnMouseWheelUp/Down on that to control the tooltip's position
23:48.56p3limYeah exactly
23:49.14ckknightwhich is what I recommend
23:49.40ckknightbasically, just change the :SetPoint's y value each time you scroll
23:49.48p3limyeah
23:49.53ckknightand it should work on a tooltip that isn't clamped to screen
23:50.14p3limIs GameTooltip clamped by default?
23:50.17Arrowmasterinvisable frame with fullscreen strata that covers the entire screen, and only shows when the tooltip is shown
23:52.28NivFreakso is the boomkin dmg cycle basically, keep moonfire dot up and spam starfire?
23:52.52p3limGameTooltip:SetOwner(MiniMapTracking, "ANCHOR_BOTTOMLEFT", 0, i)
23:53.03p3limi = changes with scroll
23:53.22p3limand make a reset on the OnLeave function
23:54.36CIA-4403ckknight * r77051 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - Solve a possible taint issue
23:54.41ckknightp3lim: it is clamped by default
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23:56.34digmouseckknight: is that taint issue about Voiceicon?
23:56.41ckknightno
23:57.00Arrowmasterthat voice shit gets tainted by everything
23:57.00ckknightit's about :ReorganizeCluster being called in combat
23:57.11digmouseuh, but the VoiceIcon messed things up
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23:58.05p3limWTB mod that removes the whole WoWVoice crap
23:58.11Arrowmastereasy
23:58.18Arrowmasterdisable it in sound options
23:58.32p3limdoh!
23:58.38p3limThanks for that pointer lol
23:59.13Arrowmasterwhich you should do anyway, if you use vent with speex codec, having wows ingame enabled will destroy your sound quality
23:59.36p3limthat explains why my last 2 mics were fucked up
23:59.37p3lim>_>
23:59.50Arrowmasteryah it messes with the outbound quality
23:59.54Arrowmasterno clue how or why

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