| 00:00.45 | profalbert | Zyndrome: (12:18:09 AM) CIA-43: ckknight * r76874 LibDogTag-3.0/LibDogTag-3.0.lua: LibDogTag-3.0 - fix a bug that caused an assertion error at line 298 |
| 00:01.14 | sacarasc | i think that might fix it :O |
| 00:01.32 | aestil | anyone know what this is? http://ace.pastey.net/89637 |
| 00:01.50 | Zyndrome | didn't see that thanks to computer freezing |
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| 00:02.42 | Zyndrome | Creative X-Fi + nvidia 8800 cards = like two guys in one cell sharing the same toilet |
| 00:03.06 | digmouse | 4850 is the god |
| 00:04.01 | Tuller | I'm running vista 64 + an 8800 + an xfi and don't really have issues :P |
| 00:05.33 | profalbert | Tuller: SP1 installed? |
| 00:05.40 | Tuller | truth |
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| 00:07.08 | laeg | i want to complete erase an addon's config for reinstallation and i removed addon.lua and addon.lua.bak from Program Files/World of Warcraft/WTF/Account/MYACCOUNTNAME/SavedVariables and Program Files/World of Warcraft/WTF/Account/DAIREFAGAN/myservername/mycharactername/SavedVariables - is that all there is to it? |
| 00:07.34 | laeg | myaccountname = dairefagan |
| 00:07.39 | laeg | pats himself on the back |
| 00:08.36 | Yssaril | should be it though you should never give out your account name or password to anyone |
| 00:09.00 | laeg | yes, i fucked up |
| 00:09.04 | laeg | ty :) |
| 00:12.06 | aestil | anyone help out on this? http://ace.pastey.net/89637 |
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| 00:16.41 | Stanzilla | yay new emote in WotlK |
| 00:16.58 | aestil | is it me whining? |
| 00:17.00 | Stanzilla | /fail |
| 00:18.09 | Stanzilla | list of new emotes: http://wotlk.wikidot.com/emotes |
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| 00:19.18 | aestil | can anyone explain to me what the out of range indicator optiions in BT4 mean |
| 00:19.28 | aestil | difference between full button mode and 'hotkey' mode? |
| 00:20.25 | JoshBorke | aestil: yes, full button mode means the FULL BUTTON turns red when out of range |
| 00:20.34 | Stanzilla | guess: full button mode: button turns red, hotkey mode: text turns red |
| 00:20.36 | JoshBorke | aestil: hotkey mode means the HOTKEY turns red when out of range |
| 00:20.36 | Stanzilla | pwnd :< |
| 00:20.44 | JoshBorke | aestil: :-) |
| 00:21.51 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, Interface\AddOns\Bartender4\Button.lua:83: attempt to index local 'flashTexture' (a nil value) |
| 00:22.05 | Funkeh` | SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAm |
| 00:22.26 | aestil | i've been asking about that for a few hours now. |
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| 00:25.23 | Stanzilla | it's 2:22 am, I guess he's already sleeping |
| 00:35.38 | Civrock | Hmm, my Cowtip frame fonts are all over the place since the LDT update... |
| 00:39.23 | Stanzilla | hm, mine is working fine |
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| 00:46.50 | Civrock | http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1803/73335253uq6.png |
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| 00:47.41 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76879 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: |
| 00:47.41 | CIA-43 | StatBlocks_Ammo: |
| 00:47.41 | CIA-43 | - remove the throttle |
| 00:47.41 | CIA-43 | - update throwing classes when we repair |
| 00:49.04 | Stanzilla | looks funny |
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| 01:04.15 | vithos | anyone around who works on closetgnome? |
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| 01:06.44 | Stanzilla | vhaarr <- |
| 01:07.48 | vithos | ping vhaarr, ping! |
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| 01:09.17 | vhaarr | wut oO |
| 01:09.18 | vhaarr | pong |
| 01:10.08 | Lukian | nevcairiel, you actually broke bt4 :) |
| 01:10.13 | vithos | there seems to be a small problem with equipping a set that uses a ring in a different slot than it's currently in |
| 01:10.20 | Lukian | I mean drdamage with the bt4 update for it |
| 01:10.28 | vithos | in that, you have to click equip twice before the correct ring gets worn |
| 01:10.48 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 01:10.57 | vhaarr | just swap the ring to the other finger in one of the sets |
| 01:10.59 | vhaarr | I won't fix it |
| 01:11.23 | Lukian | DrDamage error (at nevcairiel): http://ace.pastey.net/89638 |
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| 01:13.48 | vithos | okay, but what if someone had 3 sets that shared a total of 3 rings? one of the rings would have to swap places between sets |
| 01:13.58 | vithos | ab, cb, ac |
| 01:14.48 | Funkeh` | no it wouldn't |
| 01:15.07 | Funkeh` | you have 2 equipped and one in your bags |
| 01:15.19 | Funkeh` | one would stay the other would swap |
| 01:16.05 | vithos | right, but that's not what happens with closetgnome. it doesn't just leave you with your desired rings but with locations swapped, it leaves a desired ring not equipped |
| 01:16.22 | Funkeh` | no |
| 01:16.31 | Funkeh` | the other would swap with the one in the bag |
| 01:17.08 | Funkeh` | you have 3 rings, no reason for any rings to trade slots |
| 01:17.12 | vithos | well it's not happening in the case of my two sets where i had one shared ring but in a different slot |
| 01:17.40 | vhaarr | vithos: I'll accept a patch for it but I never have that problem so the harsh reality is that I don't care about it |
| 01:17.53 | vhaarr | CG has always had this bug |
| 01:17.58 | vithos | alright |
| 01:18.17 | Funkeh` | I truly can't see why you would every have a reason for a ring trading a slot |
| 01:18.26 | Arrowmaster | bt4 and drdamage are working fine together for me |
| 01:18.39 | vhaarr | ab, cb, ca |
| 01:18.48 | vithos | ring a moves |
| 01:18.49 | vhaarr | then ca -> ab, right |
| 01:19.41 | vithos | i'll work on a patch after my raid that's starting now if i remember |
| 01:20.57 | vhaarr | what I do is I use one base set and then have the other sets just modify that one |
| 01:21.23 | vhaarr | most of the time I go from set A -> B -> A -> C -> A -> B -> etc |
| 01:21.43 | vhaarr | so I never see these bugs, and don't bother fixing them |
| 01:23.19 | vithos | so there's basically two solutions, do an extra swap, or leave end up with the rings being in the opposite slots they were set to |
| 01:23.46 | vhaarr | do an extra swap |
| 01:24.08 | vithos | yeah extra swap would prevent you from running into problems if you had an "accessory" type set i guess where you only set 1 ring |
| 01:24.08 | Lukian | ^ in the rare case rings have a "use" and are macro'ed by slot, that'd be ideal |
| 01:24.51 | *** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | And remember, no matter where you go, there you are. -- Earl mac Rauch |
| 01:24.58 | vhaarr | who put crap about S4 in the fucking topic |
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| 01:29.31 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76880 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua: |
| 01:29.31 | CIA-43 | MiniPet: |
| 01:29.31 | CIA-43 | - Added a needed nil check on itemLink |
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| 01:46.24 | RaydenUni | man |
| 01:46.29 | RaydenUni | disconnected from wow for the 2nd time today |
| 01:46.30 | RaydenUni | oh no |
| 01:46.37 | RaydenUni | just lag |
| 01:46.38 | RaydenUni | so far |
| 01:51.19 | RaydenUni | are the servers down? |
| 01:52.11 | RaydenUni | i can't even get the news server |
| 01:53.03 | Arrowmaster | MT is questioning how the fuck i was doing 3600 TPS on one of the sunwell robots |
| 01:54.26 | RaydenUni | class? |
| 01:56.25 | QuantumDelta | spriest with imp ve, lock or hunter :< |
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| 01:58.46 | RaydenUni | yeah i run with imp ve |
| 01:58.55 | RaydenUni | why use it unless the point is to heal? |
| 01:59.00 | CIA-43 | 03daviesh * r76881 10AtlasLoot/Instances/ (5 files): |
| 01:59.01 | CIA-43 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:59.01 | CIA-43 | - Cleanup the instances directory |
| 01:59.03 | RaydenUni | if threat is that much of an issue then i don't use it |
| 01:59.44 | RaydenUni | did you guys lose all connection to the wow servers? |
| 01:59.48 | Arrowmaster | lock, with ele shaman in party, and no pallys for salv |
| 02:01.19 | CIA-43 | 03next96 * r76882 10Chatter/Localization/koKR.lua: |
| 02:01.19 | CIA-43 | Chatter: |
| 02:01.20 | CIA-43 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 02:03.07 | digmouse | the honor and marks needed for S2 is the same as S1? |
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| 02:07.34 | CIA-43 | 03ackis * r76883 10Incubator/Core.lua: |
| 02:07.34 | CIA-43 | Incubator: |
| 02:07.34 | CIA-43 | - Add Doomfire Destroyer's to m'uru reset table |
| 02:08.48 | Arrowmaster | so anybody ever heard of using a kalec strat of tank/healer/decursers going in odd portals and dps just doing free for all to get in even portals? |
| 02:08.57 | CIA-43 | 03next96 * r76884 10CooldownCount/Locale.koKR.lua: |
| 02:08.58 | CIA-43 | CooldownCount: |
| 02:08.58 | CIA-43 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:09.00 | Arrowmaster | sounds like fail to me |
| 02:09.36 | RaydenUni | digmouse yes |
| 02:09.40 | RaydenUni | the prices don't go up each season |
| 02:09.44 | RaydenUni | the rewards just get shoved down |
| 02:09.58 | RaydenUni | kalec? |
| 02:10.04 | RaydenUni | some dungeon i haven't done |
| 02:10.08 | RaydenUni | cause i haven't heard of him |
| 02:10.23 | NightHawkTheSane | kalecgos. |
| 02:10.27 | CIA-43 | 03next96 * r76885 10Skinner/embeds.xml: |
| 02:10.27 | CIA-43 | Skinner: |
| 02:10.27 | CIA-43 | - fix embeds.xml path |
| 02:11.16 | Fisker- | Arrowmaster i farted :( |
| 02:11.22 | CIA-43 | 03next96 * r76886 10YurrCombatLog/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 02:11.22 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 02:11.22 | CIA-43 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:13.22 | Fisker- | jumps Arrowmaster and punches him rapidly |
| 02:14.05 | digmouse | hmmm, that would be good. farming 75k honor b4 July 1st is pretty easy |
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| 02:15.26 | erica647 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.29 | home|prophy | anyone here use feralkit to powershift as bear form |
| 02:16.45 | erica647 | I'm just a lonely hunter I'm afraid |
| 02:18.33 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76887 10MiniPet/ (. MiniPet.lua MiniPet.toc embeds.xml): |
| 02:18.33 | CIA-43 | MiniPet: |
| 02:18.33 | CIA-43 | - LibKeyBound-1.0 support |
| 02:20.53 | CIA-43 | 03next96 07ag_Options * r76888 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_Options-koKR.lua: |
| 02:20.53 | CIA-43 | ag_UnitFrames : |
| 02:20.53 | CIA-43 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 02:21.37 | Gary13579 | Anyone know offhand how BigWigs does range checks? |
| 02:21.43 | RaydenUni | there is a s4 date? |
| 02:21.45 | RaydenUni | july 1? |
| 02:21.58 | durcyn | Gary13579: bandages and/or trade distance, depending on the boss module |
| 02:22.33 | Gary13579 | hmm, figured, but that really limits it |
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| 02:25.14 | Arrowmaster | Gary13579: thats the only possible ways |
| 02:28.55 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76889 10Mount/ (. Mount.lua Mount.toc Mount.xml embeds.xml): |
| 02:28.55 | CIA-43 | Mount: |
| 02:28.55 | CIA-43 | - LibKeyBound-1.0 support |
| 02:29.39 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76890 10DailyQuester/ (. DailyQuester.lua DailyQuester.toc embeds.xml): |
| 02:29.39 | CIA-43 | DailyQuester: |
| 02:29.39 | CIA-43 | - LibKeyBound-1.0 support |
| 02:39.05 | RaydenUni | i wish moonkin were the size of dwarves |
| 02:41.38 | CIA-43 | 03daviesh * r76891 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:41.38 | CIA-43 | AtlasLoot: |
| 02:41.38 | CIA-43 | - Began UI layout for QuickLooks feature. Once it is working in Atlas it will be trivial to add it to the loot browser. As there is no code to drive them, all buttons are disabled at the moment. |
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| 02:54.02 | CIA-43 | 03starlon * r76892 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: |
| 02:54.02 | CIA-43 | CombatAlarm: |
| 02:54.02 | CIA-43 | - Cosmetic adjustments for capture frame |
| 02:54.02 | CIA-43 | - Fix an offset problem |
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| 03:04.08 | Hesselgrinch | Xinhuan |
| 03:04.14 | Hesselgrinch | thanks for your help today. |
| 03:04.21 | Hesselgrinch | I go to sleep, later! |
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| 04:30.10 | Nefarion | Anyone know anything about http://www.ziuo.net/guild/viewtopic.php?p=3208#p3208 ? |
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| 04:30.49 | Nefarion | It claims to offer real-time access of online info, including the Armory and Wowhead. I checked it out and it's a legitemate addon.. |
| 04:31.21 | Nefarion | The code is kind of cryptic, but it's making calls to the Knowledge Base's querying functions.. Is there an exploit..? |
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| 04:33.46 | Zyuu | WOT rating for www.ziuo.net: |
| 04:33.46 | Zyuu | Trustworthiness |
| 04:33.46 | Zyuu | Vendor reliability |
| 04:33.46 | Zyuu | Privacy |
| 04:33.46 | breser | Obviously if they can actually query external stuff yes. |
| 04:34.12 | Zyuu | my browser plugin wont let me view the site |
| 04:34.16 | Zyuu | since its rated as bad :P |
| 04:34.21 | Zyuu | anyway afk |
| 04:34.57 | Zyuu | http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/www.ziuo.net |
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| 04:36.31 | copystring | good morning! |
| 04:37.01 | Nefarion | Fuck, now I'm half afraid that was a keylogger |
| 04:40.22 | Gary13579 | I'll give it a look in a bit |
| 04:40.25 | Gary13579 | after raid |
| 04:40.33 | Gary13579 | don't get too paranoid, just don't log into wow after you ran it |
| 04:41.23 | Nefarion | It's just a .zip with a Lua, Toc, XML and some TGA files |
| 04:41.31 | Nefarion | I didn't "run" anything |
| 04:41.36 | breser | The lua looks like nonsense to me. |
| 04:42.58 | Nefarion | Part of the code was encrypted, to be decrypted and ran and load it looks like |
| 04:43.00 | Gary13579 | lua is nonsense :P |
| 04:43.04 | Nefarion | Strange way to obsfucate |
| 04:45.30 | Gary13579 | Nefarion: does it work? |
| 04:45.40 | Nefarion | I didn't load it up |
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| 04:45.47 | Nefarion | I just looked at the code |
| 04:46.03 | Nefarion | It's got responses on the forum, so I'm guessing it does |
| 04:47.09 | Nefarion | "Stores cache on server to avoid querying remote sites unnecessarily." Either it's a lie, or something bad's going on. |
| 04:47.13 | breser | Well if it works someone went way out of their way to obfuscate how it works... |
| 04:48.16 | breser | "if UnitGUID("player") then" |
| 04:48.19 | breser | Umm seriously what? |
| 04:48.30 | breser | When would UnitGUID ever return anything but the players GUID? |
| 04:48.38 | breser | And why would you test for that. |
| 04:48.45 | Nefarion | Exactly |
| 04:49.07 | Nefarion | The bulk of what it does I'm guessing is hidden in the encrypted strings |
| 04:49.17 | Nefarion | See the " RunScript(Init(... " lines |
| 04:49.37 | breser | yeah I saw that... |
| 04:50.34 | Nefarion | Can you see what the images are doing? I can't load them on my connection |
| 04:50.34 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76893 10AutoBar/ (12 files): |
| 04:50.34 | CIA-43 | AutoBar : |
| 04:50.34 | CIA-43 | -- ruRU and esMX added to toc etc. |
| 04:50.38 | breser | Looks like it's just a base64 encoding. |
| 04:50.46 | Nefarion | There's three preview images showing the usage |
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| 04:51.22 | breser | Only one loaded for me. |
| 04:51.36 | breser | And it shows a window that looks like the KB window.. |
| 04:51.53 | breser | With nothing much in it. |
| 04:52.20 | Nefarion | Any info though? |
| 04:52.37 | Nefarion | The code makes it look like he re-uses the KB window for the addon's purposes |
| 04:53.30 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76894 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/LibHelper-1.0/LibHelper-1.0.lua: |
| 04:53.30 | CIA-43 | LibLordFarlander-1.0: |
| 04:53.30 | CIA-43 | - Functions for fading |
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| 04:55.46 | Primer | !rating 1476 |
| 04:55.47 | Xinhuan | 1476 rating gives 338(5s), 298(3s) and 257(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 04:57.00 | Gary13579 | KNOWLEDGE_BASE_ARTICLE_URL="http://www.ziuo.net/sendKBArticleQuery.xml";KNOWLEDGE_BASE_QUERY_URL="http://www.ziuo.net/sendKBQuery.xml";KNOWLEDGE_BASE_SETUP_URL="http://www.ziuo.net/getKBSetup.xml"; |
| 04:57.03 | Gary13579 | base64 decoded |
| 04:57.03 | Ellipsis | it works for some items but seems to be very very buggy |
| 04:57.29 | Gary13579 | second one is |
| 04:57.31 | Gary13579 | KNOWLEDGE_BASE_ARTICLE_URL="http://support.worldofwarcraft.com/kb/sendKBArticleQuery.xml";KNOWLEDGE_BASE_QUERY_URL="http://support.worldofwarcraft.com/kb/sendKBQuery.xml";KNOWLEDGE_BASE_SETUP_URL="http://support.worldofwarcraft.com/kb/getKBSetup.xml"; |
| 04:57.42 | breser | Well... |
| 04:57.42 | Gary13579 | you're welcome, brb guilds bitching at me for illidan |
| 04:57.46 | breser | Damn Gary beat me. |
| 04:57.50 | Nefarion | thanks |
| 04:57.52 | breser | Was just about to paste the same thing. |
| 04:58.05 | *** join/#wowace HolgerDK (n=markj@0x57372af1.nfnqu1.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 04:58.08 | Nefarion | Ellipsis: What does it do? Just query items? |
| 04:58.23 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76895 10Mount/ (. Mount.lua Mount.toc Mount.xml embeds.xml): |
| 04:58.23 | CIA-43 | Mount: |
| 04:58.23 | CIA-43 | - LibStickyFrames support |
| 04:58.36 | Ellipsis | well for example searching "copper" yields no results but searching "agony" yields info on the belt of never-ending agony |
| 04:58.53 | Ellipsis | regardless of searching under the "spells" category |
| 04:59.03 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 04:59.25 | Ellipsis | purrs |
| 05:01.02 | breser | That's one big hole Blizzard has their. |
| 05:01.11 | Arrowmaster | theres a known 'exploit' to use the knowledge base stuff to interact with outside websites |
| 05:01.26 | Nefarion | So it *is* getting outside data? |
| 05:01.30 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 05:01.30 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:01.36 | Nefarion | Does the /whois work? |
| 05:01.41 | Ellipsis | blizz fail hardcore |
| 05:02.32 | Gary13579 | in b4 automacro lol |
| 05:02.32 | Gary13579 | still want to know how this was done, though. |
| 05:02.32 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76896 10MiniPet/ (. MiniPet.lua MiniPet.toc MiniPet.xml embeds.xml): |
| 05:02.32 | CIA-43 | MiniPet: |
| 05:02.32 | CIA-43 | - LibStickyFrames support |
| 05:02.32 | Arrowmaster | its been known for a while |
| 05:02.32 | breser | It's insane they actually made the URL stuff accessable from Lua. |
| 05:02.45 | breser | e.g. KNOWLEDGE_BASE_ARTICLE_URL |
| 05:02.47 | Arrowmaster | along with the automacro one |
| 05:03.10 | breser | automacro? |
| 05:03.17 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76897 10DailyQuester/ (5 files): |
| 05:03.17 | CIA-43 | DailyQuester: |
| 05:03.17 | CIA-43 | - LibStickyFrames support |
| 05:03.17 | CIA-43 | - Fixed so lockButton is actually an option |
| 05:03.29 | Nefarion | What's automacro? |
| 05:03.34 | Ellipsis | the whois assumes EU servers o.O |
| 05:03.38 | Arrowmaster | yes, 'exploit' that lets you do pre 2.0 style macros |
| 05:03.51 | Nefarion | As in, calling secure shit? |
| 05:03.54 | Nefarion | From a macro? |
| 05:03.59 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:04.11 | Arrowmaster | conditional stuff |
| 05:04.33 | Arrowmaster | even a full spam decursive style function |
| 05:04.52 | Nefarion | heh |
| 05:05.24 | *** join/#wowace isman (i=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 05:05.27 | Nefarion | Fuck and I thought they messed up when I discovered the ability to auto-spam with a timed infinite loop |
| 05:05.35 | Nefarion | lol |
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| 05:07.18 | Gary13579 | Yeah, it allowed conditional macros, the "range checking" stuff like /cast Wing Clip /cast Concussive Shot as a Hunter |
| 05:07.30 | Arrowmaster | still does afaik |
| 05:07.31 | Nefarion | Ohh that stuff |
| 05:07.50 | Nefarion | How long has this been out? I'm surprised it's not been fixed. |
| 05:07.51 | Gary13579 | you could check target buffs, debuffs, player life/mana, target life/mana |
| 05:08.01 | Arrowmaster | for a while |
| 05:08.02 | Gary13579 | well yeah it does :P |
| 05:08.15 | Arrowmaster | apparently its really popular on the chinese realms |
| 05:08.19 | Gary13579 | most people just found it about a month or two ago |
| 05:08.37 | breser | Why the hell did he base64 encode it. |
| 05:08.55 | breser | It was bloody obvious it was base64, he even said it was base64 in the code. |
| 05:09.02 | breser | As if nobody has a base64 decoder. |
| 05:09.07 | Nefarion | To obsfucate it. He's probably afraid of the exploit being found. |
| 05:09.08 | Ellipsis | and why leave the info gathering stuff there? |
| 05:09.40 | breser | If I can decode it and Gary can decode it in about 5 minutes, Blizzard can too. |
| 05:09.41 | Ellipsis | I mean, if you're going to hide something, why not hide that you're saving everyone's information on your server |
| 05:10.44 | Gary13579 | breser: It took me an entire 2 seconds to google "base64 decoder" |
| 05:10.46 | breser | Longest time was finding a decoder, for whatever reason none of my machines had MIME:Base64 installed so I had to remember how to use uudecode. |
| 05:10.47 | Nefarion | breser: If Blizzard knows about it. I'd think they would, but if this crap's still working a month after release (and after a major patch), maybe they don't. |
| 05:10.51 | Gary13579 | but I'm raiding in the background :P |
| 05:11.17 | Gary13579 | the only thing he's encoding though |
| 05:11.19 | Gary13579 | is the URLs |
| 05:11.25 | Gary13579 | blah ready check, brb |
| 05:11.35 | breser | He's encoding the stuff that makes the addon work. |
| 05:11.43 | breser | The exploit is ultimately the ability to modify those values. |
| 05:12.03 | Gary13579 | oh, it's modifying the official knowledgebase variables, then calling the window open? |
| 05:12.11 | breser | Yup |
| 05:12.11 | Gary13579 | while his website is altering the data given? |
| 05:12.15 | Gary13579 | makes sense |
| 05:12.18 | Gary13579 | brb seriously >.< |
| 05:12.37 | Arrowmaster | guessing it has to be a certain format on the site |
| 05:12.38 | breser | Yes he alters the variables that points to Blizzards KB website to his own. |
| 05:13.03 | Arrowmaster | blizz will just add a check to make sure the variables are secure i bet |
| 05:13.07 | breser | Then the queries are run on his website (from what I saw in one screenshot he wrote PHP that mimics Blizzards's KB site) and then the normal KB frame displays the resposnes. |
| 05:13.39 | Nefarion | He's tricking the knowledge base into retrieving data in a format it can understand, in a way that it thinks it's reading a knowledge base article. Then scanning the knowledge base frame. |
| 05:13.42 | breser | Just need a taint check on the KB Frame. |
| 05:13.42 | CIA-43 | 03Copystring * r76898 10YurrCombatLog/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locale-koKR.lua): |
| 05:13.42 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 05:13.42 | CIA-43 | - fix locales this time hopefully... |
| 05:13.49 | Nefarion | Kinda funny, using Blizz's system against itself |
| 05:14.20 | Arrowmaster | really its not that useful |
| 05:14.23 | Nefarion | Maybe they just need to remove the variables, and make that part work C-side |
| 05:14.34 | Arrowmaster | nah, localization |
| 05:14.37 | Nefarion | Arrowmaster: Note the to-do parts. It's still in its infancy. |
| 05:14.48 | Arrowmaster | i mean the entire exploit |
| 05:15.01 | Arrowmaster | since it requires a site setup for it |
| 05:15.03 | breser | Arrowmaster: That's easy, just add in a single parameter to the website that's POST'ed not GET'ed. |
| 05:15.10 | breser | With the locale of the client. |
| 05:15.13 | breser | Problem solved. |
| 05:15.22 | Arrowmaster | they use different servers |
| 05:15.58 | breser | So use one and use the locale functionality of HTTP. :P |
| 05:16.43 | breser | From what I read looks like the guy is european and the URLs he puts back to Uninstall his addon are the same as my US client uses. |
| 05:18.11 | theoddone33 | !rating 1600 |
| 05:18.12 | Xinhuan | 1600 rating gives 465(5s), 409(3s) and 353(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 05:18.23 | theoddone33 | !points 400 |
| 05:18.24 | Xinhuan | 400 arena points require 1549(5s), 1592(3s) and 1645(2s) team rating. |
| 05:18.36 | Zhinjio | anyone else played around with wowecon? |
| 05:18.47 | Zhinjio | I dislike that they distribute in a compiled .exe. |
| 05:19.06 | Zhinjio | so I won't install it |
| 05:19.35 | Arrowmaster | they use an exe because it updates its database from their site everytime you run it |
| 05:20.01 | Ellipsis | sucks that they don't let you manually deal with it though |
| 05:20.08 | Ellipsis | otherwise I might actually use the thing |
| 05:20.29 | Drundia | you are too paranoid about exes |
| 05:20.38 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 05:20.47 | Zhinjio | I don't need it, so why bother risking it. |
| 05:21.08 | Gary13579 | same, I won't run an exe |
| 05:21.15 | Gary13579 | Spent over 200 days /played on this count, why risk it |
| 05:21.17 | Avrys | I suspect something like that is shortly to become an unathorized game modifaction =/ |
| 05:21.26 | Gary13579 | I run WAU occasionally and that's it |
| 05:21.40 | Drundia | hmmm |
| 05:21.42 | Drundia | "Download (Source Code)" |
| 05:21.48 | Arrowmaster | wowecon has been around for a long time |
| 05:22.02 | Drundia | gogo get source code check it and compile it |
| 05:22.21 | Zhinjio | too much effort |
| 05:22.28 | Zhinjio | for something I'm not even interested in. |
| 05:22.44 | Zhinjio | I only bring it up because apparently it makes my addon break (according to a jira ticket) |
| 05:22.59 | Ellipsis | I'm not paranoid about exes, I just don't like running programs to do things I'd rather manually manage |
| 05:23.39 | Zhinjio | I am paranoid about them. TOo many of my friends have had their accounts hacked to take chances. |
| 05:23.43 | Zhinjio | no thanks. |
| 05:24.12 | Avrys | My account got banned, two guildies got hacked and the gbank got emptied. My vote is always towards don't risk it /sigh |
| 05:24.27 | Arrowmaster | most keyloggers come from using internet explorer and advertisements afaik |
| 05:24.33 | Ellipsis | my vote is towards "don't be a moron" / "don't give morons gbank privs" |
| 05:24.43 | Ellipsis | preferably, gkick morons upon discovery |
| 05:25.18 | Avrys | The gbank was emptied by an officer who's been playing and an officer since release :p |
| 05:25.22 | Zhinjio | thats good advice either way |
| 05:25.24 | Avrys | who's account got hacked. |
| 05:25.42 | Ellipsis | well he shouldn't be an officer |
| 05:25.49 | Avrys | O_o |
| 05:27.43 | Nefarion | Ellipsis: Not all of them are morons. I recall vividly a post on the forums about a guild bank account (before banks were implemented) being emptied by an officer for about 200000g worth of crap. You know how much that sells for? |
| 05:28.19 | Ellipsis | well, copy paste what I said above and s/morons/jerks/ |
| 05:28.38 | Zhinjio | aiieee... birthing classes start tmw evening. |
| 05:31.21 | CIA-43 | 03morgalm * r76899 10Incubator/Core.lua: |
| 05:31.21 | CIA-43 | Incubator: |
| 05:31.21 | CIA-43 | - Fix for only 1 grouped mob timer being started when more than 1 needs to be started |
| 05:32.18 | Drundia | IE + ads is the most account stealing thing |
| 05:32.46 | Drundia | people should learn a bit more about security... |
| 05:33.00 | Nefarion | A good amount of accounts are no-doubt stolen from those bogus "stat changer" downloads people fall for |
| 05:33.20 | Gary13579 | lol |
| 05:33.25 | Gary13579 | who else posted about the knowledgebase thing |
| 05:33.57 | Nefarion | ? |
| 05:34.11 | Gary13579 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 05:34.36 | CIA-43 | 03hegarol * r76900 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/WorldPvP.en.lua: |
| 05:34.36 | CIA-43 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 05:34.36 | CIA-43 | - bugfix |
| 05:35.32 | Nefarion | Gary13579: You left in the site it links to. |
| 05:35.42 | Nefarion | ziou.net |
| 05:35.51 | Arrowmaster | they already knew about it |
| 05:36.07 | Gary13579 | no reason to take it out imo :P |
| 05:36.47 | Nefarion | Arrowmaster: You sure? If they did, a quick fix would've been real easy to add to patch 2.4.. |
| 05:37.28 | Drundia | internets leak in! |
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| 05:40.23 | Ellipsis | thars a hole in mah internets |
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| 05:47.53 | breser | They really should fix it IMHO. |
| 05:48.13 | breser | While nobody has apparently done anything nefarious with it yet, I can see some potential there. |
| 05:48.38 | Civrock | I think the [Outline] tag in Cowtip is broken again. |
| 05:48.46 | Ellipsis | I don't know how much more nefarious you can get within the API |
| 05:49.10 | Ellipsis | I mean, he's already gathering all your character's info, locale, screen resolution, etc. |
| 05:49.10 | breser | Ellipsis: Capturing peoples private chats and uploading them to your own server. |
| 05:49.23 | Ellipsis | his global chat is all stored on his server :P |
| 05:49.27 | breser | Get your guildies to install some innoculous but modified mod. |
| 05:49.28 | Ellipsis | but yeah, I see what you mean |
| 05:49.36 | *** part/#wowace Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-156-49-194.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:50.00 | breser | Who knows how many stupid people exchange account info via game chat too. |
| 05:50.05 | Arrowmaster | blizzard knows about it and is working on fixing it |
| 05:50.29 | Arrowmaster | they cant just make patches without lots of testing |
| 05:50.49 | breser | I realize that. |
| 05:51.01 | breser | I was just responding to Gary's thought that there was no reason to not fix it. |
| 05:51.04 | breser | errm. |
| 05:51.05 | Arrowmaster | and they only have so many lua experts |
| 05:51.07 | breser | no reason to fix it. |
| 05:51.40 | Arrowmaster | actually just a small handful i bet |
| 05:51.48 | breser | There's always been a certain amount of comfort using addons knowing they can't communicate outside the game. |
| 05:51.59 | Ellipsis | it depends on your definition of "expert" |
| 05:52.51 | Arrowmaster | slouken modifies the lua source that wow uses to make wow specific changes and even fix bugs, i think he counts as an expert |
| 05:53.18 | Arrowmaster | but from what i remember his actual job is AI programer |
| 05:54.16 | Arrowmaster | alexanderyoshi who worked on the new combatlog and got slouken to make the change is actually a raid encounter designer |
| 05:54.25 | Arrowmaster | no clue what zootfizzles real job is |
| 05:59.25 | Xinhuan | alex doesn't do boss design anymore, he's wotlk outdoor scripting now |
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| 06:02.59 | Diao | hmm |
| 06:03.33 | Diao | Xinhuan would your guild happen to have extra heart of darkness to sell me through neutral ah? we're starting bt and there's never any HoD on the AH these days :( |
| 06:03.40 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 06:03.43 | Xinhuan | i sold like 50 this week |
| 06:03.47 | Diao | aw |
| 06:04.05 | Diao | about how many HoD would we need to gear out an entire raid for shahraz? |
| 06:04.24 | Xinhuan | about 200 |
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| 06:04.28 | Diao | .. |
| 06:04.30 | Diao | fun |
| 06:04.32 | Diao | lol |
| 06:04.41 | Xinhuan | 150 is the minimum i think |
| 06:04.43 | Xinhuan | 6 per person x 25 |
| 06:04.48 | Diao | ah |
| 06:04.50 | Xinhuan | so if you kit 30 ppl, about 180 |
| 06:05.30 | Diao | mmk |
| 06:07.45 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: UnitGUID("mouseover") on a barrel returns nothing ... same with UnitName |
| 06:08.06 | durcyn | world objects aren't units |
| 06:08.13 | Xinhuan | some world objects are units |
| 06:08.22 | Xinhuan | such as mage portals, warlock portals, and food tables |
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| 06:08.39 | durcyn | persistent world objects |
| 06:08.56 | durcyn | such as lockboxes and gathering nodes |
| 06:09.30 | durcyn | whose scripts actually cause the player to cast a physical-school spell, such as Opening, like i mentioned the other day, Zhinjio |
| 06:09.48 | durcyn | which spells have targets that are usually the object |
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| 06:10.01 | Zhinjio | durcyn: yeah, I'm looking into that as ewll. |
| 06:10.36 | Drundia | even if they hide kb urls from addons there is always hosts file... |
| 06:11.46 | Zhinjio | this water barrel I'm testing on does not have a UnitGUID or UnitName |
| 06:11.54 | Zhinjio | via "mouseover" at any rate |
| 06:12.21 | Zhinjio | and it definitely requires that I cast "Opening" on it |
| 06:12.46 | Drundia | cast opening then |
| 06:12.52 | Drundia | and check guid from combat log |
| 06:13.11 | durcyn | i'm not sure those show up in CLEU |
| 06:13.22 | durcyn | are you trying to capture this from third parties, Zhinjio? |
| 06:13.25 | Xinhuan | as far as i can remember, opening a mining node, herb node, etc cause combat log messages |
| 06:13.32 | Xinhuan | and the name of the node does appear in it |
| 06:13.34 | Xinhuan | in CLEU |
| 06:13.35 | Drundia | i'm not sure if it's combat log |
| 06:13.43 | Drundia | i think it's gathering message now |
| 06:13.51 | Xinhuan | it simplified Gathermate slightly basically |
| 06:13.54 | Drundia | i know that gas clouds have guids |
| 06:14.04 | Zhinjio | durcyn: no, self |
| 06:14.36 | durcyn | Zhinjio: then look at GatherMate's Collector.lua |
| 06:15.20 | durcyn | looks like UNIT_SPELLCAST_foo should have it |
| 06:15.51 | Zhinjio | do I need to modify anything with the default combatlog to have it capture everything? |
| 06:16.18 | Xinhuan | no |
| 06:16.24 | Xinhuan | just register for CLEU |
| 06:16.25 | Drundia | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT is the only UNIT_SPELLCAST_* that has target and that target is reported only by name |
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| 06:16.50 | Zhinjio | I'm not doing this via addon atm ... just want to log everything, opoen a barrel, turn it off and examine the file |
| 06:16.58 | Xinhuan | then type /combatlog |
| 06:17.13 | Zhinjio | right, I did. |
| 06:18.54 | Zhinjio | ok, this doesn't make sense. |
| 06:19.04 | Zhinjio | I cast holy light on myself, and opened the barrel, and neither event made it into thelog. |
| 06:19.21 | durcyn | no, it makes perfect sense when you realize the log isn't immediately flushed to disk |
| 06:19.30 | durcyn | a full client exit is required |
| 06:19.33 | Zhinjio | k |
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| 06:20.33 | Zhinjio | my flash of light is in there, opening is not |
| 06:20.47 | durcyn | which is why i mentioned UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT |
| 06:21.42 | Drundia | opening comes as tradeskill message maybe |
| 06:21.52 | Drundia | which is entirely old style |
| 06:22.09 | Zhinjio | so you're saying that event won't make it to the combat log, but I can still register for it and check it that way? |
| 06:22.22 | Zhinjio | I'm sorry if I'm being daft. |
| 06:22.33 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:22.34 | durcyn | i'm saying that Opening actions are considered spells as far as UNIT_SPELLCAST is concerned, but are not combat spells such that CLEU or CombatLog.txt would contain them |
| 06:22.42 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 06:23.08 | durcyn | search for Opening on wowhead and look in Uncategorized Spells if you don't believe me. |
| 06:23.13 | Zhinjio | is there a way to register for stuff like that in a /script or do I have to put it in my addon to test this |
| 06:23.24 | Zhinjio | I'm not saying I don't believe you. |
| 06:23.28 | Zhinjio | I'm just trying to test. |
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| 06:23.48 | durcyn | yes, you could test it using CreateFrame, but it's probablye easier to throw in a stub addon |
| 06:23.55 | durcyn | probably* |
| 06:24.06 | Drundia | i think /script may be too limited in size, wowlua > /script |
| 06:24.20 | Zhinjio | alright, I'll stub some code into my addon and see |
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| 06:24.41 | Drundia | though you can extend editbox |
| 06:25.45 | Drundia | mana berry bushes send like no messages at all :( |
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| 06:32.05 | Zhinjio | it returned caster = "player", spellname = "Opening" target = "Water Barrel" |
| 06:32.07 | Zhinjio | thats better |
| 06:32.39 | Zhinjio | and thank you. |
| 06:32.50 | Zhinjio | no way to get a GUID out of that ... but thats ok. |
| 06:32.56 | Zhinjio | at least the name is intact |
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| 06:33.19 | breser | Ugh. |
| 06:33.34 | breser | CooldownTimers2 won't load without LIbSharedMedia-2.0 but it has it in OptDeps. |
| 06:33.55 | Xinhuan | that's because its a library |
| 06:33.55 | breser | And of course the last other addon that I had using 2.0 got updated today. |
| 06:33.58 | Xinhuan | and that library can be embedded |
| 06:34.00 | durcyn | breser: optdeps for disembedded libraries exist solely to fudge load order |
| 06:34.43 | breser | But it's not listed in X-Embeds |
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| 06:35.06 | Xinhuan | then there lies the fault |
| 06:35.19 | breser | It has SharedMediaLib in X-Embeds |
| 06:35.22 | durcyn | also, who uses CDT2 anymore >_< |
| 06:35.34 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76901 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated Blacklist |
| 06:35.35 | Xinhuan | so the author upgraded the lib from 1.0 to 2.0 but didn't update x-embeds |
| 06:35.36 | breser | I assumed they were trying to say that they required SharedMediaLib-1.0 but would also work with 2.0 |
| 06:35.50 | breser | durcyn: Obviously I do. Is there something better? |
| 06:36.57 | durcyn | breser: I'm partial to Hourglass |
| 06:37.07 | breser | Is anyone going to get cranky with me if I just update the toc to be correct? |
| 06:37.42 | Zhinjio | is that spellname "Opening" going to get localized, or not? |
| 06:37.43 | durcyn | though CDT2 kind of works - my biggest beef is that sorren decided to capture the name of every single inventory item that has a cooldown and store it forever, which eventually breaks |
| 06:39.51 | Zhinjio | meaniing, if I check arg4 on a DE client, will it say "Oeffnen"?? or still Opening |
| 06:40.23 | breser | durcyn: Yeah CDT2 was always somewhat messed up. |
| 06:40.38 | durcyn | Zhinjio: you can't even rely on Opening consistently, that's the fun part |
| 06:40.55 | Drundia | Zhinjio, i think it should be localized, i doubt client knows original names at all (depends on spell.dbc) |
| 06:40.57 | durcyn | every object can have a different spell ID assigned to its click action |
| 06:41.02 | Ellipsis | there's sometimes "gathering" or another more appropriate name |
| 06:41.04 | Ellipsis | or even blank ones |
| 06:41.28 | Zhinjio | christ. |
| 06:41.30 | durcyn | the 2.4.0 spells.dbc scrape I have here shows... 61 different spells with Opening in the name |
| 06:41.33 | Zhinjio | so much for making it easy |
| 06:41.43 | Ellipsis | easy is for noobs! |
| 06:41.53 | Drundia | wtb good dbc scrapes |
| 06:42.07 | Zhinjio | there's also Disenchant |
| 06:42.18 | Zhinjio | but ... I don't think I want to key off that one |
| 06:42.56 | Zhinjio | I also don't want to key off gathering |
| 06:43.26 | Xinhuan | there is Prospecting too |
| 06:43.36 | Zhinjio | yeah, don't want that one either. |
| 06:43.38 | Drundia | where there? |
| 06:43.45 | Zhinjio | just things that produce loot events that people are going to want to bid on |
| 06:43.47 | Drundia | there is like everything really |
| 06:44.21 | durcyn | Zhinjio: are you on a non-enUS client? |
| 06:44.34 | Zhinjio | enUS |
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| 06:45.07 | durcyn | actually, that shouldn't matter. GetSpellInfo(3365) should work regardless |
| 06:45.43 | Drundia | yes, you should store spell ids and use that api |
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| 06:46.44 | durcyn | i didn't mean a whitelist of Opening IDs, i meant grabbing a translation from a known one, then comparing UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT strings |
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| 06:47.37 | durcyn | or hell, a whitelist of objects you want to track, since you're going through all this rigamarole just to do something with the majordomo and chess event loot, right? |
| 06:48.46 | Zhinjio | well, in theory, it could be any chest like object in an instance, but in practicality, yes ... just a very few. |
| 06:49.30 | Xinhuan | remember you can MINE epic gems in hyjal |
| 06:49.46 | Xinhuan | those count as loot too |
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| 06:49.52 | Xinhuan | and not necessarily by your master looter |
| 06:50.11 | Xinhuan | so those won't be tracked by SWG if your ML didn't mine it |
| 06:50.30 | Zhinjio | I know!!?!? if you discourage me enough, I'll just leave and not come back ... and then you won't be bothered with my silly questions anymore. |
| 06:50.38 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 06:50.52 | Ellipsis | ~staple Zhinjio |
| 06:50.54 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Zhinjio quite well, and hands Zhinjio to ellipsis |
| 06:51.09 | Xinhuan | another 4 examples of loot from chests are the 4 chests in ZA timed run |
| 06:51.16 | Elkano | Arrowmaster: ping? |
| 06:51.27 | Xinhuan | you don't normally loot them as you do the actual timed run though |
| 06:51.28 | Zhinjio | apparently, the juju sticks in ZA spawns chests occasionally too |
| 06:51.44 | Xinhuan | so the loot ordering can be a bit whacked |
| 06:51.45 | Zhinjio | or whateve rthey are |
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| 07:10.00 | Xinhuan | if i make a macro |
| 07:10.07 | Xinhuan | /castrandom a, a, b |
| 07:10.17 | Xinhuan | will that cast spell a with 2/3 chance? :) |
| 07:10.55 | FinalX | hm, yes, i think so |
| 07:12.23 | FinalX | i never really found a use for /castrandom.. whatcha using it for? :) |
| 07:12.57 | clad|sleep | polymorph imo |
| 07:13.07 | FinalX | ahhh yes |
| 07:13.16 | theoddone33 | horsese |
| 07:13.16 | FinalX | that's a nice use of it :P |
| 07:13.35 | Xinhuan | it sucks i have to swap macros for pvp/pve |
| 07:13.42 | Xinhuan | in pvp i only use rank 1 sheep |
| 07:13.47 | Xinhuan | but pve u need rank 4 |
| 07:13.58 | theoddone33 | this is what I did |
| 07:14.16 | FinalX | isn't there a [iminpvp] option? |
| 07:14.21 | theoddone33 | /cast [outdoors]Sheep (Rank 1); Sheep |
| 07:14.22 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 07:14.24 | theoddone33 | no there definitely isn't |
| 07:14.31 | theoddone33 | that screws me on some instances |
| 07:14.31 | FinalX | shame |
| 07:14.35 | theoddone33 | but in general it is ok |
| 07:14.36 | Xinhuan | unfortunately, hyjal counts as outdoors |
| 07:14.43 | Xinhuan | and you do sheep a lot there |
| 07:14.48 | Xinhuan | sunwell too |
| 07:15.04 | theoddone33 | it'd be nice if closetgnome could swap macros along with gearsets |
| 07:15.10 | FinalX | yeah ok but if you only raid there once a week it's not that bad to swap macro for that |
| 07:15.14 | durcyn | theoddone33: IHML |
| 07:15.17 | FinalX | aye |
| 07:15.25 | clad|sleep | why not just use modifiers |
| 07:15.28 | clad|sleep | shift-macro for long |
| 07:15.30 | theoddone33 | ihml? |
| 07:15.31 | clad|sleep | no modifier for short |
| 07:15.35 | clad|sleep | problem solved! |
| 07:15.38 | Xinhuan | annoying ;p |
| 07:15.46 | clad|sleep | no more annoying than swapping them out |
| 07:15.51 | theoddone33 | it is |
| 07:15.54 | durcyn | IHML is "I Have Macro Lol", it automatically populates a macro based on varios criteria |
| 07:16.02 | durcyn | the name sucks, but it's useful |
| 07:16.03 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 07:16.24 | theoddone33 | should be "I can has macro lol" |
| 07:16.51 | durcyn | yeah, well, Snago apparently didn't get the stupid-meme-of-the-week memo |
| 07:17.26 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis for no reason. |
| 07:17.59 | theoddone33 | I feel like programming |
| 07:18.02 | theoddone33 | since I fail at arena |
| 07:18.09 | theoddone33 | maybe I should do something I'm halfway decent at |
| 07:18.54 | Xinhuan | i just made a new addon for a guildie |
| 07:19.12 | Xinhuan | all it does is swap in and out a weapon with spellsurge enchant |
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| 07:19.37 | Xinhuan | and only at the start of spellcasts with casting time, so the triggered GCD overlaps with the spell |
| 07:19.51 | breser | You mean you made CasterWeaponSwapper? |
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| 07:20.11 | Xinhuan | yep but a bit more specific |
| 07:20.16 | FinalX | resilience's -crit% and defense -crit% stack with absolute values, right? so if I have -1% crit from resilience, and -4.6% from defense, I have -5.6% which is the max needed for boss level mobs? |
| 07:20.26 | Xinhuan | without fancy options |
| 07:20.37 | breser | Shrug you can turn all that off. |
| 07:20.53 | breser | Did you account for spells with no cast time? |
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| 07:21.05 | Xinhuan | doesn't trigger on instants |
| 07:21.23 | Lukian | FinalX, that's right |
| 07:21.29 | Lukian | FinalX, check for rounding errors though :p |
| 07:21.39 | FinalX | yeah ok :) |
| 07:21.59 | Lukian | or just overstack a little ^_^ |
| 07:22.09 | Lukian | defense still gives miss rate and dodge |
| 07:22.15 | FinalX | as you know I just hit 70 on my warrior, and I have a bunch of resilience to make up for the lack on defense on my current gear.. getting the dps pvp chestpiece from the sha'tar vendor to replace a green one without +def/+resi |
| 07:22.42 | FinalX | yeah, just trying to make up for the lack of defense to become uncrittable until I get better gear, the blue pvp ones are purchasable for money/rep so :) |
| 07:23.08 | FinalX | kara run tonight.. and no blacksmiths around that can make me a pair of felsteel gloves/leggings >.< |
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| 07:34.10 | Drundia | Xinhuan, what's the real use of that swapping? Like all spell checks (except cast time) occur at end |
| 07:34.39 | Xinhuan | you swap in a spellsurge weapon. when it procs, you swap it out, 45 secs later you swap it back in, etc |
| 07:34.54 | Drundia | oh, it actually has silly internal cooldown.... |
| 07:35.20 | Zhinjio | so I want to hook function ContainerFrameItemButton_OnModifiedClick(button) |
| 07:35.27 | Zhinjio | ... |
| 07:35.36 | Zhinjio | and someone is running, say ... OneBag, or something similar. |
| 07:35.50 | Zhinjio | do I have to also account for the way the frames are named in those other addons? |
| 07:36.01 | Xinhuan | almost usually, yes |
| 07:36.14 | Zhinjio | bleh. ok. |
| 07:36.29 | Zhinjio | and if you had to make a short list of addons like that to support, what would they be? |
| 07:36.43 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't support any |
| 07:37.29 | Zhinjio | can you expound on that a little bit more? |
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| 07:38.02 | Xinhuan | its simple, i like the default UI's 5 bag system, easy to organize items with it |
| 07:38.23 | Xinhuan | and instead of opening one huge big bag, you can just open the one specific bag you need |
| 07:38.26 | Xinhuan | say my potion bag |
| 07:38.55 | Xinhuan | instead of opening one huge bag with everything to find a potion |
| 07:39.01 | FinalX | injectors in engineering bag++ |
| 07:39.29 | Zhinjio | well, I'm not going to argue with you about bag organization methodoligies. that wasn't my question |
| 07:39.51 | Xinhuan | yeah, well as a result, i don't support all-in-one style bag addons :) |
| 07:40.09 | Xinhuan | such addons should almost always be hooking ContainerFrameItemButton_OnModifiedClick(button) anyway |
| 07:40.12 | nevcairiel | that discussion is like religion, its pointless |
| 07:40.17 | Xinhuan | if they don't, they are seriously fawled |
| 07:40.17 | Zhinjio | ok, someone besides Xinhuan wanna answer this? Jesus. |
| 07:40.19 | Xinhuan | flawed |
| 07:40.30 | Xinhuan | so anyway, hooking that directly should be fine |
| 07:40.39 | Xinhuan | and should work for most bag addons |
| 07:40.44 | Zhinjio | ok, i'll start with that, and let people complain if their particular addon doesn't play nice with it |
| 07:41.05 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 07:41.15 | Xinhuan | then you install those addons you want to add compat, one by one etc |
| 07:41.48 | Zhinjio | fair enough |
| 07:42.14 | Groktar | weird |
| 07:42.46 | Groktar | armory says i have 150 less healing and 30 mp5 |
| 07:45.54 | Roblibob | human? |
| 07:46.02 | Groktar | ya |
| 07:46.12 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 07:46.20 | Zhinjio | what about alt-right-clicking links in chat? |
| 07:46.22 | FinalX | another nab macro question: how do you enable/disable the error frame in a macro? |
| 07:46.29 | Roblibob | don't know it armory take account of human racial |
| 07:46.30 | Zhinjio | nm, I'll do some looking around first before I ask |
| 07:46.43 | Xinhuan | hook some function in itemref.lua |
| 07:46.46 | Groktar | it's not nearly enough |
| 07:46.56 | Groktar | human racial is only 5% spirit |
| 07:47.04 | Groktar | be like 25 extra |
| 07:47.21 | Groktar | and it's shorting me 32 |
| 07:47.30 | Groktar | OH |
| 07:47.34 | Groktar | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Flak |
| 07:47.41 | Groktar | look at my shoulders |
| 07:47.44 | Groktar | i guess it's not armory |
| 07:47.52 | Roblibob | human racial is 10% spirit |
| 07:47.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:47.59 | Drundia | SetItemRef() is most commonly hooked function for that purpose |
| 07:48.07 | nevcairiel | you are wearing some grey crap=P |
| 07:48.17 | Drundia | it's what's called for clicking links in chat |
| 07:49.06 | Zhinjio | yeah, I'm looking at it now. |
| 07:49.08 | Zhinjio | thank you. |
| 07:50.47 | breser | Zhinjio: What was your question? |
| 07:54.04 | Zhinjio | I need to provide alt-right-click functionality for two cases: one: in someone's inventory ... and two: an item link in chat |
| 07:54.22 | Zhinjio | so I'm trying to write the code to hook both of those things |
| 07:55.49 | Zhinjio | aaaannnddd... I'm using LibRockHook, so there's some learning involved there as well. |
| 07:56.33 | Zhinjio | maybe I should just use raw hooks and forget about the library |
| 07:57.13 | Xinhuan | what do u need the hooks for |
| 07:57.53 | Zhinjio | I want alt-right-click on an itemlink, and on an inventory object to do some custom stuff |
| 07:58.02 | Zhinjio | in short |
| 07:59.08 | Xinhuan | the itemlink in chat one is already answered above |
| 07:59.59 | Xinhuan | as for the inventory one, hook ContainerFrameItemButton_OnModifiedClick |
| 08:00.10 | Xinhuan | and it should work with all bag addons (or the lack of one) |
| 08:00.29 | Zhinjio | yes. I have the functions already ... I'm trying to sort through the syntax of doing so. |
| 08:00.38 | Xinhuan | in your hooked function, you should check if the buttonpressed is "right click" and if "alt" is held down |
| 08:00.53 | Xinhuan | if it is, do your stuff, else call the original function (and return the return values too) |
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| 08:03.36 | Zhinjio | ck's documentation for librockhook is the suxorz. |
| 08:04.07 | Xinhuan | it just occured to me that "rock" has "ck" in it hehe |
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| 08:06.44 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure what the difference is between AddHook and AddScriptHook |
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| 08:16.31 | CIA-43 | 03nevcairiel * r76903 10mHud/Configuration/: mHud: update externals to point to Ace3 trunk |
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| 08:31.56 | CIA-43 | 03scorpion * r76904 10Grid/GridLocale-zhTW.lua: |
| 08:31.56 | CIA-43 | Grid: |
| 08:31.56 | CIA-43 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 08:32.21 | CIA-43 | 03scorpion * r76905 10AutoBar/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 08:32.21 | CIA-43 | AutoBar : |
| 08:32.22 | CIA-43 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.05 | Zhinjio | I see the IsAltKeyDown() function ... but how can I tell about right vs left mouse button? |
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| 08:37.01 | nevcairiel | You have to look at the button parameter in the OnClick handler |
| 08:37.09 | nevcairiel | or OnMouseDown handler |
| 08:37.36 | thul | I like the wii girl video |
| 08:37.41 | Zhinjio | IsMouseButtonDown ?? |
| 08:37.43 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
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| 08:39.39 | Zhinjio | aha |
| 08:40.22 | thul | iMouse. |
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| 08:42.05 | Roblibob | hm, can omnicc flash an spell icon on cool down just like the old jimscd pulse? |
| 08:43.23 | nevcairiel | it does so by default |
| 08:43.26 | nevcairiel | last i checked |
| 08:43.53 | nevcairiel | tbh i am not sure right now, maybe i just blend that into my UI white noise =P |
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| 08:47.24 | CIA-43 | 03neotron * r76906 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: |
| 08:47.24 | CIA-43 | MagicTargets: |
| 08:47.24 | CIA-43 | - Added optional tooltip that shows info about the target (level, type, whether it's tanked, cc'd or running wild, current target) and also who's currently targeting the mob. |
| 08:47.24 | CIA-43 | - Fixed bar coloring based on aggro (typo caused it to always say mobs were either tanked or cc'd - now it will properly mark untanked mobs). |
| 08:47.25 | CIA-43 | - Made colors customizable in the configuration UI. |
| 08:47.43 | NeoTron | so yeah "if isGroup" is not the same as "if isInGroup". I need to l2know my own variable names |
| 08:47.58 | Zhinjio | does this look correct? http://www.pastey.net/89646 |
| 08:48.08 | Kalroth | If you have to ask, then no! |
| 08:48.38 | thul | erhm, is IN and is is two different things? |
| 08:48.48 | nevcairiel | A SecureHook should not call the original function |
| 08:48.52 | thul | i don't know api, programming or anything remotely similar to it, but i see that? :-P |
| 08:48.59 | Zhinjio | no? ok. |
| 08:49.16 | nevcairiel | nor do i know how RockHook works |
| 08:49.17 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 08:49.44 | Zhinjio | well, I guess I'm gonna find out. |
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| 08:51.56 | Zhinjio | this code is scary |
| 08:52.15 | breser | What's scary about it? |
| 08:53.24 | Zhinjio | I like understanding what I'm doing more than I do in this case before unleashing things on my unsuspecting toon. |
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| 08:53.34 | Zhinjio | He's gonna get all green and sick or something. |
| 08:53.35 | Zhinjio | how know. |
| 08:53.39 | Zhinjio | knows |
| 08:58.40 | CIA-43 | 03neotron * r76907 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: MagicTargets: changed fubar options panel layout. |
| 09:00.28 | Olison | ~age |
| 09:00.28 | purl | I'm just born. |
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| 09:09.24 | Zhinjio | ok, chat frame links are almost working |
| 09:11.29 | Zhinjio | the one for the containerframe onmodifiedclick wants me to provide a frame to hook against |
| 09:11.37 | Zhinjio | or some object, I"m assuming its a frame |
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| 09:14.23 | Zhinjio | is there an easy way to convert from an itemstring back to an itemlink? |
| 09:16.11 | CIA-43 | 03Copystring * r76908 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 09:16.11 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 09:16.11 | CIA-43 | - add energize effects for non periodic types |
| 09:16.11 | CIA-43 | - bug fix for interrupts |
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| 09:20.27 | CIA-43 | 03neotron * r76909 10FuBar_MagicMarker/MMFu.lua: FuBar_MagicMarker: Added a count indicating the number of marked targets and the total number of recognized targets (makes it easy to see if all targets are marked correctly). |
| 09:21.36 | CIA-43 | 03neotron * r76910 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: Update total and marked targets for FuBar_MagicMarker when events causes a change. |
| 09:21.40 | Elkano | I wonder if I can hack AtlasLoot to work with latest Atlas dev :/ |
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| 09:35.44 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: I've got the alt-right-clicking working now... it'll be another day or so before I can get it packaged up. |
| 09:36.33 | Zhinjio | ok, that wasn't as hard as I thought it was gonna be. |
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| 10:00.13 | CIA-43 | 03jerry * r76911 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/dataminer.lua: LibPeriodicTable-3.1: update dataminer to use the latest luacurl binding. |
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| 10:04.26 | CIA-43 | 03orionshock * r76912 10GuildCraft/ (6 files in 2 dirs): GuildCraft: cross update with CF, fixes some bugs. Add in some admin options for guild officers.. use at own risk. |
| 10:04.31 | Orionshock | hehe.. time to break something :D |
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| 10:09.32 | CIA-43 | 03orionshock * r76913 10GuildCraft/core.lua: GuildCraft: bump last known good db version to proper on for this repo. |
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| 10:26.06 | CIA-43 | 03nevcairiel * r76914 10HotCandy/HotCandy.lua: HotCandy: add experimental swiftmend detection |
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| 10:37.25 | CIA-43 | 03nevcairiel * r76915 10HotCandy/HotCandy.lua: HotCandy: small improvements |
| 10:37.54 | CIA-43 | 037destiny * r76916 10BigWigs_VoidBlastReflect/VoidBlastReflect.lua: |
| 10:37.54 | CIA-43 | BigWigs_VoidBlastReflect: |
| 10:37.54 | CIA-43 | -add koKR locale |
| 10:38.04 | Lukian | Does Sniff sitll work? |
| 10:38.23 | Lukian | Looking for something to run through and itemcache everything for me ^_^ |
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| 10:46.21 | Lukian | hmm that's not what I'm after |
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| 11:05.47 | Wraanger | heyaz all |
| 11:06.17 | jygga | uhm cart waypoints is depreciated in favor for Routes right? |
| 11:06.29 | jygga | cart routes is ofc but waypoints also |
| 11:06.30 | jygga | ? |
| 11:06.41 | nevcairiel | waypoints is something totally different |
| 11:06.52 | nevcairiel | although, it has some bugs, it still works |
| 11:07.07 | nevcairiel | (TomTom is the way to go, imho) |
| 11:07.22 | jygga | hm okay :) |
| 11:07.38 | nevcairiel | Routes does only what Carto_Routes did |
| 11:07.40 | nevcairiel | not more |
| 11:07.54 | nevcairiel | well a tiny bit more, but thats only Routes features :) |
| 11:07.56 | jygga | well i get this ZOMG DEPRECIATED message all the time ^^ |
| 11:11.09 | cladhaire | why do people always spell deprecated wrong |
| 11:11.13 | cladhaire | it makes me want to cry |
| 11:12.38 | Kalroth | cladhaire: depriccated* |
| 11:12.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 11:13.33 | cladhaire | ~deprecated |
| 11:13.47 | purl | hmm... deprecated is a typo of depreciated, see depreciated, or not a typo according to the jargon file... oh well here it is "you can use it, but it's no longer the best way and will probably be unsupported soon" since when become typos new words |
| 11:13.48 | cladhaire | i should make a witty entry |
| 11:13.49 | jygga | because i dont appreciate good grammar |
| 11:13.56 | cladhaire | ... |
| 11:14.05 | jygga | ^^ |
| 11:14.10 | cladhaire | thats hilarious |
| 11:14.30 | Kalroth | jygga: i agre, sum ppl r juts 2 uptite wehn it cums 2 grammer an stuf |
| 11:14.32 | cladhaire | Depreciation, in finance, a reference to the fact that assets with finite lives lose value over time |
| 11:14.37 | cladhaire | Depreciated is often confused or used as a stand-in for "deprecated"; see deprecation for the use of depreciation in computer software |
| 11:15.36 | profalbert | ~depreciated |
| 11:15.43 | purl | i guess depreciated is "you can use it, but it's no longer the best way and will probably be unsupported soon" |
| 11:15.43 | jygga | so the noun is depreciation but the adjective is deprecated ? eh? |
| 11:15.59 | cladhaire | purl no deprecated is a term in computer software that indicates a feature is no longer officially supported even if it still exists and may eventually be removed altogether. Deprecated is often misspelled 'depreciated' which is a financial term. |
| 11:16.00 | purl | cladhaire: okay |
| 11:16.59 | jygga | does purl have some stats on how many lines of data it holds in its db? |
| 11:16.59 | profalbert | ~deprecated |
| 11:17.00 | purl | deprecated is, like, a term in computer software that indicates a feature is no longer officially supported even if it still exists and may eventually be removed altogether. Deprecated is often misspelled 'depreciated' which is a financial term. |
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| 11:17.10 | cladhaire | purl no depreciated is the adjective form of depreciation, a financial concept whereby assets with finite lives lose value over time. Depreciation is often confused for the computer software term 'deprecated'. |
| 11:17.10 | purl | cladhaire: okay |
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| 11:19.33 | cladhaire | sorry, that wasn't in response to you |
| 11:19.38 | cladhaire | cause the code probably DOES yell about depreciation :P |
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| 11:22.31 | jygga | isnt firefox3 releaseday today? |
| 11:22.36 | cladhaire | at some point |
| 11:22.40 | cladhaire | its not up on getfirefox.com get |
| 11:22.41 | cladhaire | yet |
| 11:23.13 | jygga | not that perfect circumstances for the world record then ^^ |
| 11:23.16 | sb | 10am |
| 11:23.28 | FinalX | Firefox3 is nice. Although I prefer Opera myself, and VMWare's web plugin is not compatible with 3 :( |
| 11:23.36 | sb | DT |
| 11:23.40 | sb | err PDT |
| 11:23.47 | FinalX | you can sign up for the release thing |
| 11:23.48 | sb | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=17&year=2008&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&sort=1 |
| 11:24.10 | FinalX | if you sign up you get a mail telling you to download it :P |
| 11:24.58 | jygga | 1.5 million emails ^^ |
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| 11:30.22 | Funkeh` | wasn't there a firefox 4 lnk somewhere |
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| 11:37.41 | Funkeh` | hmm think they removed it for 3.1 |
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| 12:27.42 | Snago | [09:16:49] <durcyn> yeah, well, Snago apparently didn't get the stupid-meme-of-the-week memo <-- I take no responsibility.. It's actually named after some guildies old arena team. They fail at memes, not me :P |
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| 12:34.38 | jygga | theres a green one |
| 12:34.41 | jygga | and a pink one |
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| 12:34.48 | jygga | *tralalla* |
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| 12:41.04 | CIA-43 | 03jncl * r76917 10Skinner/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:41.04 | CIA-43 | Skinner: Skinned Nameplates, FBagofHolding, Vendor |
| 12:41.04 | CIA-43 | - Updated Bongos3 & QuestGuru, skins |
| 12:41.04 | CIA-43 | - Bugfix for ItemSocketingUI |
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| 13:03.57 | CIA-43 | 03ottokang * r76919 10CooldownCount/Locale.zhTW.lua: |
| 13:03.57 | CIA-43 | CooldownCount: |
| 13:03.57 | CIA-43 | - zhTW Update |
| 13:03.57 | CIA-43 | 03whitetooth * r76918 10Grid/GridRange.lua: Grid: UnitInRange is 38 yards instead of 40 yards |
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| 13:05.53 | Snago | lol @ LibLordFarlander-1.0 :D |
| 13:06.08 | nevcairiel | we renamez0red it |
| 13:06.42 | nevcairiel | you are kinda slow on the notice side of things, though |
| 13:06.50 | SunTsu | Did he notice it by now? |
| 13:06.56 | nevcairiel | i think so |
| 13:07.02 | nevcairiel | didnt fix it in all of his addons, though |
| 13:07.56 | SunTsu | I wondered, because I, by accident, installed one addon by LordFarlander yesterday and it came without LibLordFarlander |
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| 13:19.56 | Kaelten | g'mornin |
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| 13:22.54 | kenlyric | what did I miss? |
| 13:23.02 | kenlyric | LordFarlander? |
| 13:23.59 | nevcairiel | Oh he had a library caleld LibHelper-1.0 that was doing some crazy API encapsulation and other stuff, specific for his addons, so we renamed it to LibLordFarlander-1.0 ;) |
| 13:24.52 | kenlyric | he = who, unless who = alar :) |
| 13:25.30 | nevcairiel | he = LordFarlander |
| 13:25.35 | nevcairiel | i thought that was obvious :P |
| 13:25.47 | kenlyric | i've never heard of that person, so no. |
| 13:25.56 | kenlyric | I thought it was some kind of joke I didn't understand |
| 13:26.50 | CIA-43 | 03nevcairiel * r76920 10HotCandy/HotCandy.lua: HotCandy: change seperator |
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| 13:27.32 | Snago | lua> local a = function() end; print(type(a)) |
| 13:27.32 | lua_bot | Snago: function |
| 13:27.51 | Snago | Thank you, lua_bot :) |
| 13:29.26 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76921 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: StatBlocks_Ammo: merchant closed on all classes |
| 13:30.03 | mykx | nevcairiel: are you around ? |
| 13:31.59 | nevcairiel | mykx: dunno, try :) |
| 13:32.30 | mykx | got this message today upon login, thought I'd let you know |
| 13:32.35 | mykx | Interface\AddOns\Bartender4\ActionBars.lua:199 Usage: SetBindingClick("KEY", "buttonName"[, "mouseButton"]) |
| 13:33.30 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 13:33.50 | mykx | may be slightly different as I typed it out but yeah you get the general idea i'm sure |
| 13:34.08 | nevcairiel | in theory that shouldnt be possible |
| 13:34.10 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 13:34.35 | nevcairiel | does that happen all the time? |
| 13:34.51 | mykx | it happened when I logged into my warlock and priest who have different bindings |
| 13:34.58 | mykx | just this morning though |
| 13:35.09 | nevcairiel | didnt happen after a second login? |
| 13:35.22 | mykx | I haven't relogged yet :P I'll let you know after this BG hehe |
| 13:35.29 | nevcairiel | k |
| 13:36.07 | mykx | actually yeah I just relogged and it didn't show up this time |
| 13:36.23 | nevcairiel | ok |
| 13:36.47 | CIA-43 | 03nevcairiel * r76922 10Bartender4/ActionBars.lua: Bartender4: add a check around the keybinding code to hopefully prevent any errors |
| 13:36.51 | mykx | not too sure how significant that was but ya |
| 13:37.05 | nevcairiel | should really have matterd |
| 13:37.10 | nevcairiel | i hope =P |
| 13:37.20 | mykx | hehe :) |
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| 14:10.31 | CIA-43 | 03pastamancer * r76923 10Grid/GridStatusRange.lua: |
| 14:10.31 | CIA-43 | Grid: |
| 14:10.31 | CIA-43 | * GridStatusRange: disable 38 yard check if a 40 yard check is available. |
| 14:11.11 | Arrowmaster | i need to get back to my normal sleep schudule, waking up at 10am is so weird compared to the afternoon |
| 14:11.36 | nevcairiel | you should get a job an wake up 7am |
| 14:13.17 | CIA-43 | 03pastamancer * r76924 10Grid/GridStatusAuras.lua: |
| 14:13.17 | CIA-43 | Grid: |
| 14:13.17 | CIA-43 | * GridStatusAuras: Use GetSpellInfo to find the name of the 'Ghost' debuff. |
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| 14:15.09 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76925 10AutoBar/AutoBarDB.lua: |
| 14:15.09 | CIA-43 | AutoBar: |
| 14:15.09 | CIA-43 | -- Fix Cooldown Potion: Combat Button |
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| 14:16.16 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
| 14:16.16 | Zhinjio | is there any way to insert at the beginning of a table, or do you have to move everything down one to do so |
| 14:16.19 | Zhinjio | g'morning. |
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| 14:16.29 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i would but i still have 6 more credit hours left of college |
| 14:16.38 | cncfanatics | Zhinjio: tinsert(table, value, index) ? |
| 14:16.39 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: table.insert |
| 14:16.48 | Zhinjio | um. |
| 14:16.48 | cncfanatics | make index 1 and u should insert at the start |
| 14:17.02 | Zhinjio | so even if something is already there? |
| 14:17.04 | Zhinjio | whoa |
| 14:17.08 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 14:17.12 | Zhinjio | wowzers. |
| 14:17.14 | Zhinjio | thats awesome. |
| 14:17.19 | cncfanatics | it'll move all elements for you |
| 14:17.27 | Arrowmaster | thats why table.insert is good |
| 14:17.27 | Zhinjio | that rocks my world. |
| 14:17.46 | Zhinjio | cooing noises and drools a bit. |
| 14:17.48 | Arrowmaster | table.remove does the same thing, moves all elements |
| 14:18.13 | cncfanatics | they're liek, imba |
| 14:20.17 | Arrowmaster | i think id probably qualify for an award for laziest college schudule |
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| 14:20.53 | cncfanatics | schudule ? :o |
| 14:22.02 | Arrowmaster | shutup i just woke up |
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| 14:26.48 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: I opened and closed the ticket for you about wanting the newest loot items at the top of the list. This will be fixed in the next release. |
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| 14:34.48 | allen | hey uhm, [ :SetAttribute("macrotext", "/party I am targetting %t") ] say i wanted a newline after that would that be possible ? like [ :SetAttribute("macrotext", "/party I am targetting %t /party i like to party") ] |
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| 14:36.35 | nevcairiel | add a \n in there |
| 14:36.37 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 14:37.56 | allen | yeah i should have tried that, thanks >.< |
| 14:38.08 | CIA-43 | 03next96 * r76926 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 14:38.08 | CIA-43 | Skinner: |
| 14:38.08 | CIA-43 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 14:53.10 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: one other side effect of the alt-right-click method for looting: you *will* lose track of the original looted mob. so LOOTE (loot events in your logging) will no longer have any information about the original mob they were looted from, just "Unknown" |
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| 14:56.40 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: I'm willing to deal with that when needed :) |
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| 14:59.15 | Zhinjio | anyone know if GetRaidRosterInfo works on a disconnected player? |
| 14:59.28 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: I think I figured out how you got that weird corruption in there. |
| 14:59.40 | NivFreak | oh yea? |
| 14:59.45 | Zhinjio | Is it possible you did a suicide while 2 people were disconnected? |
| 14:59.49 | NivFreak | certainly |
| 14:59.50 | Zhinjio | offline? |
| 14:59.53 | Zhinjio | yeah, shit. |
| 15:00.01 | Zhinjio | I need to think about this one. |
| 15:00.18 | NivFreak | I did end up taking snapshots of my list |
| 15:00.19 | nevcairiel | why do you suicide o.O |
| 15:00.31 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 15:00.38 | Zhinjio | that'll make your SV about as clean as it can get. |
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| 15:01.36 | profalbert | ~seen zeksie |
| 15:02.01 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18d 22h 54m 37s ago, saying: 'geiv games'. |
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| 15:02.10 | Pkekyo| | identify bsmisund |
| 15:02.15 | Zhinjio | damnit.I need to think of a way around that. |
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| 15:03.39 | NivFreak | it's also possible that the suicides happened after people had left the raid group |
| 15:04.02 | NivFreak | people will often disband on our last kill of the night if they aren't interested in drops |
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| 15:06.21 | Ozguli | Hmm.. Any idea what could be causing random lag in arena? |
| 15:06.27 | laeg | does anyone know of a warrior tanking forumala for comparing gear? |
| 15:06.38 | laeg | like 1 sta = 2 agility = x = x = x etc |
| 15:06.38 | laeg | ? |
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| 15:07.05 | VonhintenHOME` | tank points? |
| 15:07.26 | CIA-43 | 03ananhaid * r76927 10Grid/GridLocale-zhCN.lua: |
| 15:07.26 | CIA-43 | Grid: |
| 15:07.26 | CIA-43 | - zhCN update. |
| 15:07.29 | NivFreak | laeg: wowhead.com has an formula they use that isn't bad |
| 15:08.06 | laeg | cool, i need one for tanking and arms pve/pve dps |
| 15:08.13 | laeg | thanks, NivFreak i'll check it out |
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| 15:08.35 | laeg | VonhintenHOME`: tank points is a formula? |
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| 15:08.56 | VonhintenHOME` | I guess its an addon, but the addon surely has a formula |
| 15:09.45 | laeg | cool, thanks i'll have a look |
| 15:10.41 | AckisWork | morning |
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| 15:12.06 | Zhinjio | nm, it looks like GetRaidRosterInfo works just fine on disconnected players. |
| 15:12.59 | Zhinjio | I am mystified how you managed to get two empty entries in that table. That is so weird. |
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| 15:14.02 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: you weren't using "Reserve" so far yet, right? |
| 15:14.07 | Zhinjio | per our earlier discussion |
| 15:15.04 | NivFreak | not yet |
| 15:15.13 | NivFreak | raid attendance has been light |
| 15:15.18 | NivFreak | so I haven't had any real standbys |
| 15:15.27 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 15:15.55 | NivFreak | summer and all |
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| 15:17.27 | Zhinjio | anyone know alot about raid IDs? |
| 15:17.39 | Zhinjio | basically, I'm wondering if there can be gaps in raidIDs |
| 15:17.43 | Zhinjio | player raidIDs |
| 15:17.48 | Zhinjio | if you have ... like, 23 people in a raid |
| 15:17.49 | AckisWork | gaps? |
| 15:17.56 | Arrowmaster | how can you claim its only due to summer, in my experience raid attendance is always light and people blame it on anything they can, summer, college classes starting, midterms, finals, winter break, any possible holiday.... |
| 15:17.57 | Zhinjio | can it go, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7... |
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| 15:18.08 | AckisWork | oh raid IDs for people in the raid, not the raid you're saved to :P |
| 15:18.12 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 15:18.33 | Arrowmaster | yes there can be gaps |
| 15:18.34 | Arrowmaster | change from 2.0 |
| 15:18.52 | Arrowmaster | its to prevent them from all being shifted in combat when somebody joins or leaves the raid |
| 15:19.20 | VonhintenHOME` | and thus you've found your bug |
| 15:19.54 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 15:20.07 | Arrowmaster | if you invite 25 people then 1 leaves and you invite 1 more it shouldnt go above 25 |
| 15:20.09 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: is it possible you did a suicide when you only had 23 people in the raid? |
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| 15:20.27 | Zhinjio | maybe, after 2 people left? |
| 15:20.31 | Zhinjio | like mentioned above? |
| 15:20.54 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: normally I have 2-3 people on standby, school gets out and I find myself with no standbys |
| 15:20.57 | Arrowmaster | but ive heard of it being really bad if you invite 20 people and split up into 2 10man groups and half the people leave |
| 15:21.06 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: very possible, yes |
| 15:21.10 | VonhintenHOME` | it shouldn't ever go above 40 I think is a safe assumption |
| 15:21.19 | Arrowmaster | well yeah it cant go above 40 |
| 15:21.23 | VonhintenHOME` | other than that, all bets are off |
| 15:21.26 | Zhinjio | ok, thats gotta be my bug then |
| 15:21.36 | Zhinjio | at least its easily fixable. |
| 15:22.09 | NivFreak | I mean, both cases are likely |
| 15:22.11 | NivFreak | :P |
| 15:22.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah you need a 'for i = 1,40 do' loop instead of a 'for i = 1, GetNumRaidMembers() do' loop |
| 15:22.32 | Zhinjio | yup. |
| 15:22.48 | Zhinjio | and don't do anything with entries that don't return anything |
| 15:22.58 | Arrowmaster | and just add an 'if UnitExists("raid"..i) then' |
| 15:23.14 | Arrowmaster | or use something you already have to do the same |
| 15:23.28 | Zhinjio | GetRaidRosterInfo should just return nils or something. I was gonna check on that. |
| 15:23.33 | Zhinjio | but your way would work too |
| 15:23.46 | CIA-43 | 03cremor * r76928 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChatLink.lua: Prat: Updated deDE |
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| 15:30.10 | AckisWork | Is anyone here a PC Gamer ready? |
| 15:30.15 | AckisWork | s/ready/reader/ |
| 15:30.52 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 15:31.16 | AckisWork | do you know what issue had the hellgate london promo thing in it? |
| 15:31.25 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 15:31.36 | VonhintenHOME` | had to be a while ago |
| 15:31.42 | Arrowmaster | the one with the minipet? |
| 15:31.45 | AckisWork | yes |
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| 15:31.50 | AckisWork | wants to buy that minipet |
| 15:31.57 | AckisWork | so I need to find out what issue |
| 15:31.58 | Arrowmaster | dec 2007, no. 168 |
| 15:32.04 | AckisWork | ty |
| 15:32.10 | VonhintenHOME` | scary... |
| 15:32.11 | Arrowmaster | i have a stack of pc gamers next to me |
| 15:32.12 | AckisWork | don't suppose you have the code still? :P |
| 15:32.21 | Arrowmaster | yes but your not getting mine |
| 15:32.26 | AckisWork | :O |
| 15:32.28 | AckisWork | that hurts |
| 15:32.43 | Arrowmaster | if i ever decide to play the shitty game i want my minipet |
| 15:32.51 | VonhintenHOME` | hahaha |
| 15:32.55 | AckisWork | it's not shitty, it's kinda fun actually |
| 15:32.59 | AckisWork | a nice diversion from wow |
| 15:34.01 | Arrowmaster | fyi there are two december 2007 issues |
| 15:34.07 | Arrowmaster | 168 and 169 |
| 15:34.21 | AckisWork | ok ty |
| 15:34.46 | Zhinjio | so "raid1" .. "raid40" are valid unit values? |
| 15:34.50 | Zhinjio | looks like it |
| 15:34.54 | AckisWork | yes |
| 15:34.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 15:35.14 | Arrowmaster | sweet i figured out the bug with Deadened and agUF |
| 15:35.47 | AckisWork | so anyways, I don't have any toenails on my big toes (long story, pics if you want :P) and my fucking cat scratched my toe and it really hurts :( |
| 15:36.02 | Zhinjio | yikes. |
| 15:36.05 | vhaarr | who the hell would want pics of that |
| 15:36.10 | Arrowmaster | aUF.units.aUFtarget gets created in agUF's OnEnable and Deadeneds agUF module is trying to hook it in OnEnable |
| 15:36.14 | cncfanatics | me ! |
| 15:36.15 | VonhintenHOME` | rofl |
| 15:36.30 | AckisWork | vhaarr: I got a forum ban in SWG for posting them once :( lol |
| 15:36.31 | VonhintenHOME` | that might go down in history as the wierdest goddamn IRC statement I've ever seen... |
| 15:36.36 | vhaarr | lol |
| 15:36.39 | Drundia | AckisWork, it needed some love, but you refused it so it had to scratch you |
| 15:36.56 | AckisWork | I love my kitty but it's a little shithead and loves to pounce |
| 15:37.03 | AckisWork | as someone in my guild said "I got pounced IRL" |
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| 15:37.34 | AckisWork | and Arrowmaster say yay or nay to your PM :P lol |
| 15:37.35 | Drundia | yes, kitties abuse our love to them |
| 15:37.41 | Arrowmaster | nay |
| 15:37.58 | AckisWork | but just a fyi, if you ever get toenails removed, don't get them on both feet when it's -40 outside |
| 15:38.05 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: :( |
| 15:39.52 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76929 10KeyBoundExtra-1.0/ (. KeyBoundExtra-1.0.toc): |
| 15:39.52 | CIA-43 | KeyBoundExtra-1.0 : |
| 15:39.52 | CIA-43 | -- Initial dry commit |
| 15:40.15 | AckisWork | snickers |
| 15:40.25 | AckisWork | No one will compete with my dry-coding |
| 15:41.18 | Snago | AckisWork: geif pics, I want to see the freak toes! :D |
| 15:41.26 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:41.27 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76930 10MiniPet/ (MiniPet.lua MiniPet.toc README.txt): |
| 15:41.27 | CIA-43 | MiniPet: |
| 15:41.27 | CIA-43 | - Version bump to 3.2, updated README.txt |
| 15:41.30 | Zhinjio | ew, I really don't. |
| 15:41.37 | Zhinjio | oooo |
| 15:41.40 | Zhinjio | what does MiniPet do? |
| 15:41.52 | Megalon | AckisWork: better advise, never let someone step on you foot while you got a removed toenail :p |
| 15:41.54 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: it's the one linked on warcraftpets.com |
| 15:42.05 | Zhinjio | hmm, ok. I'll look at it later |
| 15:42.06 | AckisWork | Megalon: that happened actually, I didn't cry just passed out |
| 15:43.04 | AckisWork | Snago: http://members.shaw.ca/Ackis/images/toes/toe(8).JPG (not safe for keeping stomach contents down) |
| 15:43.20 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: He also wrote a pet database which I was thinking we could use for our idea if it's coded decently |
| 15:43.28 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 15:43.31 | Zhinjio | cool. |
| 15:43.36 | Zhinjio | have you used that addon? |
| 15:43.39 | AckisWork | no |
| 15:43.50 | AckisWork | I don't have need for something that automatically summons a mini-pet |
| 15:43.56 | Megalon | AckisWork: got stitches through your nail bed? |
| 15:44.00 | Zhinjio | oh, thats all it does? |
| 15:44.01 | Zhinjio | blah |
| 15:44.04 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 15:44.05 | Megalon | if yes, have fun when they get removed :p |
| 15:44.09 | AckisWork | plus he's a worse coder than me apparently |
| 15:44.21 | Zhinjio | dude, lrn2usecamera |
| 15:44.35 | AckisWork | Megalon: the nail bed was scraped down to prevent the nail from growing back... this was like 4 years ago |
| 15:44.51 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76931 10KeyBoundExtra-1.0/libs/: |
| 15:44.51 | CIA-43 | KeyBoundExtra-1.0: |
| 15:44.51 | CIA-43 | -- add externals |
| 15:44.53 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: http://members.shaw.ca/Ackis/images/toes/toe(9).JPG better? :P |
| 15:45.05 | AckisWork | why the fuck am I linking pics of my toes on irc? I hate you all. |
| 15:45.10 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:45.16 | Zhinjio | no |
| 15:45.22 | Zhinjio | heh |
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| 15:45.37 | CIA-43 | 03anea * r76932 10SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc core.lua options.lua readme.txt): |
| 15:45.37 | CIA-43 | SpamSentry 20080617: |
| 15:45.37 | CIA-43 | - Updated filters |
| 15:45.37 | CIA-43 | - Added "/sentry statistics" command to show session statistics |
| 15:45.40 | AckisWork | want to see my face all cut up and bloody too? |
| 15:45.42 | AckisWork | :P |
| 15:45.51 | Megalon | why not, gogo! |
| 15:46.06 | AckisWork | I used to have some pictures of my mouth when I got my wisdom teeth out... didn't turn out well because I couldn't open my mouth wide enough to get a good picture though :P |
| 15:46.28 | VonhintenHOME` | wtf did you do to have your toe fucked up like that |
| 15:46.40 | AckisWork | Ingrown toenails... very bad and painful and got em ripped out |
| 15:46.47 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 15:47.06 | Zhinjio | I had that done... but never got the nailbed scraped, or whatever... just got it trimmed out to fix the hurty parts. |
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| 15:47.21 | Zhinjio | must have been bad. |
| 15:47.25 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76933 10KeyBoundExtra-1.0/: |
| 15:47.25 | CIA-43 | KeyBoundExtra-1.0 : |
| 15:47.25 | CIA-43 | -- log |
| 15:47.34 | Megalon | AckisWork: same here, 4 times until it didn't happen again >:< |
| 15:47.43 | VonhintenHOME` | that's a chronic problem? they can't just fix it once and have them grow in normally? |
| 15:47.52 | AckisWork | they fixed it once and it grew back ingrown |
| 15:48.00 | AckisWork | so I was like fuck this |
| 15:48.11 | AckisWork | however, I will never get a cat declawed because of it :P |
| 15:48.44 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd be worried about stubbing my toe, or dropping something on it.. goddamn would that hurt without a nail |
| 15:48.56 | AckisWork | get used to it |
| 15:49.00 | AckisWork | unless your cat fucking claws you |
| 15:49.02 | AckisWork | little shit |
| 15:49.04 | Snago | AckisWork: Those are pictures from right after the procedure? |
| 15:49.13 | AckisWork | a couple weeks after |
| 15:49.18 | Snago | AckisWork: How does it look now? |
| 15:49.28 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 15:49.34 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76934 10KeyBoundExtra-1.0/libs/: |
| 15:49.34 | CIA-43 | KeyBoundExtra-1.0: |
| 15:49.34 | CIA-43 | -- Externals |
| 15:49.48 | AckisWork | Snago: http://members.shaw.ca/Ackis/images/toes/toe(6).jpg |
| 15:50.08 | Snago | AckisWork: cool :) |
| 15:50.09 | VonhintenHOME` | creepy! |
| 15:50.37 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:51.22 | AckisWork | photobucket is down otherwise I'd show you more! ahahahah :P |
| 15:51.28 | VonhintenHOME` | your big toe nail always that small, or did that shrink after removing it |
| 15:51.37 | Snago | AckisWork: Reason I wanted to see: I have a friend that got his toenails removed and I got curious of how it'd look but he refused to show me :( |
| 15:52.06 | AckisWork | the skin covered a bit more on it |
| 15:52.40 | VonhintenHOME` | toward the tip though, was there always that much skin between the rim of the nail and the tip? |
| 15:52.55 | AckisWork | not sure really |
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| 15:53.33 | VonhintenHOME` | glad I just ate... |
| 15:53.57 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:54.14 | AckisWork | so btw no dec issues of pc gamer on ebay :( or codes |
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| 15:56.55 | cncfanatics | is tinytip broken ? |
| 15:57.01 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 15:57.05 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76935 10KeyBoundExtra-1.0/KeyBoundExtra-1.0.toc: |
| 15:57.05 | CIA-43 | KeyBoundExtra-1.0: |
| 15:57.05 | CIA-43 | -- CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 15:58.00 | cncfanatics | can't get it to do anything :s |
| 15:58.24 | AckisWork | I think you need to revert to an earlier version |
| 15:58.32 | AckisWork | he was doing a rewrite of it but kinda disappeared :( |
| 15:58.35 | Arrowmaster | works perfectly fine for me |
| 15:58.38 | nevcairiel | tinytip works for me |
| 15:58.55 | AckisWork | I always got errors w/ the config etc |
| 15:59.09 | CIA-43 | 03profalbert * r76936 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 15:59.09 | CIA-43 | Parrot: |
| 15:59.09 | CIA-43 | - throttling now also works for outgoing Pet melee/skills damage |
| 15:59.28 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.41 | cncfanatics | and when i go to interface options to access the config thingy that plugs into blizz |
| 15:59.48 | cncfanatics | then changing settings just doesn't do shit |
| 16:02.18 | VonhintenHOME` | Don't suppose anyone here has anything to do with the worldofraids.com web site? |
| 16:02.50 | CIA-43 | 03arrowmaster * r76937 10Deadened/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:02.50 | CIA-43 | Deadened: |
| 16:02.50 | CIA-43 | -fix for agUF module plus a few minor random cleanups |
| 16:02.50 | CIA-43 | -drycoded (and I'm too lazy to test with luac -p) |
| 16:02.50 | CIA-43 | ~lart Ackis |
| 16:02.50 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays Ackis in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 16:03.08 | VonhintenHOME` | haha |
| 16:03.46 | AckisWork | lol |
| 16:03.49 | VonhintenHOME` | arrowned |
| 16:05.11 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 16:05.12 | Funkeh` | omg |
| 16:05.16 | Funkeh` | purl, i love you |
| 16:05.17 | purl | You love you? |
| 16:05.59 | AckisWork | only at night time |
| 16:06.04 | Arrowmaster | does IsLoggedIn() return true while PLAYER_LOGIN is firing? |
| 16:07.06 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 16:09.43 | CIA-43 | 03arrowmaster * r76938 10Deadened/Modules/agUF.lua: Deadened: bugfix |
| 16:09.50 | Arrowmaster | LOGIC ERROR NOT SYNTAX! |
| 16:09.53 | Arrowmaster | ~lart Ackis |
| 16:09.54 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Ackis in half |
| 16:10.30 | AckisWork | ahahahaha |
| 16:10.38 | AckisWork | ~fail Arrowmaster |
| 16:10.39 | purl | Arrowmaster, you Fail! |
| 16:11.11 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76939 10KeyBoundExtra-1.0/KeyBoundExtra-1.0.toc: |
| 16:11.11 | CIA-43 | KeyBoundExtra-1.0: |
| 16:11.11 | CIA-43 | -- website http://www.wowace.com/wiki/KeyBoundExtra-1.0 |
| 16:14.29 | Arrowmaster | i should probably look closer at agUF's code and make a better fix |
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| 16:14.44 | Arrowmaster | and i think i might know whats wrong with pitbull and deadened too now |
| 16:16.51 | VonhintenHOME` | what's wrong with pitbull? |
| 16:17.10 | Arrowmaster | people say its broken with deadened |
| 16:17.25 | VonhintenHOME` | oh, not sure what deadened is |
| 16:17.31 | nevcairiel | deadend just surpresses the castbar of some casts, right? |
| 16:19.02 | Kuosi | yes |
| 16:19.22 | CIA-43 | 03cremor * r76940 10sRaidFrames/locales/deDE.lua: sRaidFrames: Update deDE |
| 16:20.02 | Kuosi | i dont use unitframe castbars tho so dont know how the addon works with em |
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| 16:23.01 | CIA-43 | 03ananhaid * r76941 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 16:23.01 | CIA-43 | Skinner: |
| 16:23.01 | CIA-43 | - zhCN update. |
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| 16:25.14 | Funkeh` | http://gfx.nihilum.mousesports.com/news/2008/june/ss213.jpg |
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| 16:33.07 | cncfanatics | anyone can suggest a good chat addon ? |
| 16:33.11 | cncfanatics | not too heavy preferably |
| 16:33.14 | Arrowmaster | chatter |
| 16:33.18 | cncfanatics | I just need the basic stuff + tab autocomplete |
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| 16:33.36 | nevcairiel | create your own |
| 16:34.03 | cncfanatics | why ? so many good ones around already |
| 16:35.22 | CIA-43 | 03aznamir * r76942 10PallyPower/locale/ (deDE.lua esES.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua): |
| 16:35.22 | CIA-43 | PallyPower: |
| 16:35.22 | CIA-43 | - added missing entried for DE, ES, FR, KR locales. Need someone to translate them. |
| 16:37.25 | digmouse | chatter is good :D |
| 16:38.56 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: i use a simple chat mod in one file that i essentially compiled from some other addons, fiting my own needs :P |
| 16:39.15 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: also look at SimpleChatMods |
| 16:39.26 | nevcairiel | or BasicChatMods |
| 16:39.33 | cncfanatics | trying chatter atm |
| 16:39.37 | cncfanatics | seems quite nice |
| 16:39.44 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: can you change the textbox position with it? |
| 16:39.51 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 16:40.13 | cncfanatics | what option ? can'"t find it |
| 16:40.44 | profalbert | is there an addon that allows to create command-aliases (like the Prat-module)? |
| 16:41.06 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: editbox |
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| 16:42.34 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: no, there isn't |
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| 16:43.50 | cncfanatics | profalbert: easy enough to do from command line though |
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| 16:47.21 | profalbert | cncfanatics: You have any hint how to do it? |
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| 16:52.50 | cncfanatics | profalbert: I don't know by heart |
| 16:52.53 | cncfanatics | wowwiki should know |
| 16:53.05 | profalbert | cncfanatics: ok thanks |
| 16:54.23 | cncfanatics | the lightweight dmgmeter is violation right ? |
| 16:56.02 | Hjalte | Yes. |
| 16:56.40 | Gnarfoz | if lightweight means 'little functionality', then yes |
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| 17:07.08 | Arrowmaster | !rating 1584 |
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| 17:09.38 | NeoTron | ah nice, LibBars on trunk. thanks for fixing the external nevcairiel |
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| 17:12.34 | erikh | are dmgmeters really that heavyweight? |
| 17:12.46 | erikh | I could see them being chatty, but other than that? |
| 17:12.56 | nevcairiel | Recount eats your babies |
| 17:12.58 | nevcairiel | and also your memory |
| 17:13.24 | erikh | i'm up for anything that saves me money at the grocery store |
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| 17:16.22 | Kulaar | p3lim can you tell me where to download pTags? |
| 17:16.32 | p3lim | - |
| 17:16.37 | p3lim | That addon is disbanded |
| 17:16.40 | p3lim | Quite a while ago too |
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| 17:17.09 | Kulaar | hm ok :( |
| 17:17.22 | p3lim | Using blp skins atm |
| 17:17.45 | erikh | anyone know offhand if group calendar is aced? |
| 17:17.55 | p3lim | its not |
| 17:18.06 | VonhintenHOME` | it's also a big hairy piece of broken shit |
| 17:18.13 | p3lim | True |
| 17:18.21 | erikh | dunno; it works well enough for our guild. I was going to add a few things to it |
| 17:18.25 | p3lim | Working on a signup-only client for my own use :) |
| 17:18.29 | CIA-43 | 03gnarfoz * r76943 10PallyPower/locale/ (deDE.lua enUS.lua): |
| 17:18.29 | CIA-43 | PallyPower: |
| 17:18.29 | CIA-43 | - Update deDE for the new strings in r76942 |
| 17:18.29 | CIA-43 | - fix "Righeous Fury" in enUS |
| 17:18.35 | VonhintenHOME` | it constantly loses people's sign ups |
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| 17:18.52 | p3lim | VonhintenHOME`: http://home.no/p3lim/random/pcalendar.bmp |
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| 17:19.17 | Kuosi | nevcairiel: recount still delivers, wonder how recount2 turns out |
| 17:19.28 | erikh | well hell, why aren't we writing a replacement then? |
| 17:19.29 | Gnarfoz | blizz seems like they're going to have an ingame calendar of their own with WotLK, btw |
| 17:19.35 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76944 10Mount/ (Mount.lua localisation.lua): |
| 17:19.35 | CIA-43 | Mount: |
| 17:19.35 | CIA-43 | - Fixed text that said Shift was the Mount Item modifier. It's actually Ctrl. |
| 17:19.38 | erikh | oh, really? that sounds cool. |
| 17:19.58 | p3lim | Yeah, thats one of the reasons people doesnt care to rewrite that monster of an addon |
| 17:20.01 | Gnarfoz | see these strings from GlobalStrings.lua: http://rafb.net/p/qQ6pAV95.html |
| 17:20.06 | VonhintenHOME` | erikh, because Blizzard needs to get off their slow ass and build a server side version. That's the only way it'll be stable |
| 17:20.22 | p3lim | Gnarfoz: site is down |
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| 17:20.24 | Gnarfoz | they seem to be getting of their asses, finally ;) |
| 17:20.25 | Gnarfoz | wut |
| 17:20.27 | Gnarfoz | it's not |
| 17:20.31 | p3lim | is so |
| 17:20.39 | Gnarfoz | ok, my paste is gone, no matter |
| 17:20.53 | Gnarfoz | probably nuked by blizz already, sec |
| 17:21.33 | Gnarfoz | http://rafb.net/p/f03Yk187.html |
| 17:21.50 | p3lim | hm |
| 17:22.17 | p3lim | Looks good :) |
| 17:23.21 | CIA-43 | 037destiny * r76945 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 17:23.21 | CIA-43 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 17:23.21 | CIA-43 | - Fix Kiljaeden spellID |
| 17:23.21 | CIA-43 | - added Fire Bloom, Shadow Spike a countdown |
| 17:24.32 | digmouse | ~seen ckknight |
| 17:24.34 | purl | ckknight is currently on #norganna (2h 21m 44s) #wowuidev (2h 21m 44s) #wowace (2h 21m 44s) #curseforge (2h 21m 44s). Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 2m 13s, last said: 'no, tinypic'. |
| 17:24.54 | ckknight | howdy, digmouse |
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| 17:29.14 | mjc | firefox 3 download day has begun and it looks like the servers are toast |
| 17:29.36 | profalbert | Http/1.1 Service Unavailable |
| 17:29.49 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, you knew that was gonna happen |
| 17:30.06 | VonhintenHOME` | there's just no way their servers would be able to handle the influx of hits they're calling for |
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| 17:30.22 | Gnarfoz | there's always akamai |
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| 17:30.40 | erikh | yeah, a lot of people are giving them shit for using dynamic pages and not using akamai |
| 17:31.21 | Gnarfoz | ftp's are probably up, but ppl are probably too lazy to spread direct links ;) |
| 17:31.34 | erikh | eh, I'll just wait for ubuntu to pick it up |
| 17:31.59 | VonhintenHOME` | what's the ftp address? :) |
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| 17:32.14 | erikh | I imagine ftp.mozilla.org works |
| 17:32.24 | erikh | (whether or not it's slammed is a different story) |
| 17:33.26 | profalbert | erikh: 421 There are too many connected users, please try later. |
| 17:34.12 | Gnarfoz | this is what torrents are good for, but I digress |
| 17:34.13 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 17:34.27 | Gnarfoz | should look at piratebay, it's probably there ;D |
| 17:34.40 | erikh | by the time there are enough seeds to make it valuable, moz will have the problem fixed |
| 17:34.54 | durcyn | yes, because obtaining binaries through peer-to-peer networks is always a great idea, Gnarfoz. |
| 17:35.01 | erikh | that too :) |
| 17:35.17 | Gnarfoz | erikh: ? it's not larger than 20mb, getting seeds up should be a matter of seconds oO |
| 17:35.23 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: what are you on about. |
| 17:35.49 | erikh | dunno; there's nothing really *that* exciting in the betas |
| 17:36.01 | erikh | other than wow factor I don't see what the attraction is |
| 17:36.16 | Gnarfoz | well, it's the final, I guess that's the attraction |
| 17:36.40 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: nothing, just compare md5 on any firefox you get via piratebay, is all |
| 17:36.46 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: indeed |
| 17:37.01 | Gnarfoz | I was kind of taking doing that for granted :> |
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| 17:38.33 | VonhintenHOME` | just pulled Firefox Setup 3.0.exe |
| 17:38.38 | VonhintenHOME` | that the right one? |
| 17:38.42 | erikh | speaking of big releases |
| 17:38.46 | erikh | wine 1.0 is final too |
| 17:39.04 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
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| 17:39.53 | Gnarfoz | as someone said earlier, 15 years dev time vs. 15 months dev time ;> |
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| 17:42.08 | CIA-43 | 03dodge * r76946 10CoolDownButtons/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:42.08 | CIA-43 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 17:42.09 | CIA-43 | - fixed Time Limit |
| 17:42.09 | CIA-43 | - fixed not savin OmniCC Settings |
| 17:42.26 | cremor | somebody should change the channel topic to include firefox 3 to help toasting the server ;-) (and of course to spread it) |
| 17:42.34 | durcyn | or not. |
| 17:42.40 | durcyn | it's a web browser, not a religion |
| 17:43.34 | cremor | but it's a good web browser :-) (ok, i don't want to start _that_ type of discussion now :-) ) |
| 17:43.39 | VonhintenHOME` | ftp.mozilla.org let me in within a couple min of attempts |
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| 17:45.33 | VonhintenHOME` | bah, I pulled RC3.. wonder where the correct download is |
| 17:46.12 | Silviu- | I wonder that too ... |
| 17:46.21 | Silviu- | on mainpage is 2 |
| 17:46.27 | Silviu- | And in beta is rc3 |
| 17:47.13 | cremor | i'm searching too. that link in the mail leads me to the download page of ff2 (deDE) :-( |
| 17:47.16 | Arrowmaster | ~date |
| 17:47.16 | purl | It is now 2008.06.17 17:47:16 GMT |
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| 17:47.39 | Arrowmaster | todays 3.0 release right? |
| 17:48.01 | profalbert | cremor: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/ |
| 17:48.18 | VonhintenHOME` | nope, I pulled that one, it's RC3 |
| 17:48.24 | cremor | thx, will try it as soon as the server lets me in ^ |
| 17:48.52 | profalbert | isn't RC3 identical to final? |
| 17:49.07 | VonhintenHOME` | I dunno |
| 17:49.18 | VonhintenHOME` | would have thought they would have rebuilt it with no RC |
| 17:50.21 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think rc2 even said rc2 in it |
| 17:50.59 | profalbert | it was like that with ff2 iirc |
| 17:51.12 | profalbert | no RC-numbers in the about |
| 17:51.19 | Arrowmaster | rc1 said rc1 i think |
| 17:51.26 | cremor | jep, ff2 final also has been the last rc |
| 17:51.51 | profalbert | so, I my link above actually is the final, no RC in it |
| 17:52.59 | VonhintenHOME` | I dunno, when I loaded it up, it brought up a page that mentioned RC3 |
| 17:53.05 | Cheads | "too many users" error and they are trying to beat the record for most downloads... does not look too good =) |
| 17:53.52 | Cheads | my rc3 doesn't mention rc3 in the about menu |
| 17:54.38 | Cheads | and that is 12 days since I installed that |
| 17:55.08 | Chompers | http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.0 |
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| 17:56.33 | Cheads | June 17th, 10:00am PDT isn't that nearly an hour ago? or? |
| 17:56.41 | Fisker- | yup |
| 17:57.24 | Chompers | Fisker- ! |
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| 17:59.45 | Pkekyo| | hai2upeoples |
| 18:00.22 | Fisker- | slaps Chompers around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:00.25 | Fisker- | o hai Chompers |
| 18:03.15 | Chompers | good day to you Fisker- |
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| 18:15.00 | CIA-43 | 037destiny * r76947 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 18:15.00 | CIA-43 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 18:15.00 | CIA-43 | - Fixed Morogrim Watery Grave |
| 18:15.44 | NivFreak | wtf, WWS can't parse my log |
| 18:18.33 | Silviu- | http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/ |
| 18:18.38 | Silviu- | Here u can download it easy |
| 18:18.39 | Silviu- | ;) |
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| 18:20.12 | NeoTron | or http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-US for direct en-US link |
| 18:21.12 | nevcairiel | i'll wait for the storm to calm down and use auto-update =P |
| 18:21.23 | CIA-43 | 03jerry * r76948 10lern2count/Default/Bartender4_Buttons.lua: lern2count: update BT4 support |
| 18:21.31 | Vulcanus | but u muss wait 4 download dai! |
| 18:21.44 | NivFreak | lern2count? |
| 18:22.00 | Vulcanus | ye, you should know 2 is after 1 |
| 18:22.01 | Arrowmaster | autoupdateing from a beta version probably isnt a good idea |
| 18:22.01 | Vulcanus | durr |
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| 18:22.12 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: rc3 .. should probably work |
| 18:22.21 | Arrowmaster | was it a fresh install? |
| 18:22.27 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:22.28 | Knaledge | ckknight: QuestsFu is erroring out after update upon clicking on any quest in the tracher |
| 18:22.30 | Knaledge | tracker |
| 18:22.34 | nevcairiel | well rather, i installed rc2 |
| 18:22.37 | nevcairiel | updated to rc3 :P |
| 18:22.40 | Arrowmaster | questsfu isnt ckknights addon |
| 18:22.46 | Knaledge | ah, thought it was |
| 18:23.22 | Knaledge | kemayo: QuestsFu.lua line 552: |
| 18:23.23 | Knaledge | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.24 | Vulcanus | I installed RC2 but let it take my data from FF2, and its working just fine |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-43 | 037destiny * r76949 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-43 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-43 | - Fixed Morogrim Watery Grave :p |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-43 | - Added Kiljaeden Flame Dart |
| 18:23.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:23.44 | nevcairiel | on the firefox download site |
| 18:23.50 | nevcairiel | big logo "Firefox 3" |
| 18:23.54 | nevcairiel | but version says 2.0.0.14 |
| 18:24.08 | Vulcanus | people are hammering their poor servers |
| 18:24.18 | Vulcanus | You are not prepared! |
| 18:24.28 | Knaledge | they released final? |
| 18:24.36 | Knaledge | had RC3 for a week now |
| 18:24.38 | Vulcanus | if you can get to it, yes |
| 18:24.39 | Vulcanus | XD |
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| 18:24.43 | Knaledge | ah, cool |
| 18:25.06 | Vulcanus | gl with that tho, even direct links will 99.999 (repeating of course) % give you a 403 too many users or whatever |
| 18:25.48 | Knaledge | how much different is final over RC3 being as RC3 only had one change from RC2 |
| 18:25.56 | Knaledge | can't be much |
| 18:26.10 | Vulcanus | there's probably no difference |
| 18:26.14 | Stanzilla | rc3= same as final |
| 18:26.21 | Knaledge | ah, then I'm in no rush |
| 18:26.37 | Knaledge | anyone know how I could manually fix QuestsFu? |
| 18:26.40 | Vulcanus | I think dash just /quit to prove he's using FF3 |
| 18:26.41 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 18:27.19 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 18:27.22 | Knaledge | error is something about bad argument on line 552, 'format' (got nil) |
| 18:27.44 | Knaledge | happens when clicking on QuestFu tracker entries which would normally open the blizzard quest log |
| 18:29.11 | Arrowmaster | i doubt it since thats from earlyer this month, not today |
| 18:29.27 | Knaledge | =/ |
| 18:29.29 | NeoTron | does LibBars have a way to set the max number of bars to show? |
| 18:29.35 | Vulcanus | thats assuming they updated build number |
| 18:29.38 | Vulcanus | or date, rather |
| 18:29.56 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: yes actually |
| 18:30.20 | nevcairiel | -- Max number of bars to display. nil to display all. |
| 18:30.20 | nevcairiel | function barListPrototype:SetMaxBars(num) |
| 18:30.23 | NeoTron | cool |
| 18:30.31 | Knaledge | well crap. Also the only other addon I have a problem with atm is PoisonReminderFU |
| 18:30.35 | Knaledge | it doesn't apply to OH anymore |
| 18:30.37 | NeoTron | I assume after sorting it will show the num highest priority bars |
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| 18:31.01 | nevcairiel | i would hope so |
| 18:31.46 | NeoTron | on fights like felmyst there are a lot of bar |
| 18:31.51 | NeoTron | bars in magic targets |
| 18:38.55 | Arrowmaster | remoseless attacks got me killed on my rogue =( |
| 18:39.10 | Arrowmaster | i wanted to attack another mob before it wore off instead of eating |
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| 18:44.22 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 18:45.08 | VonhintenHOME` | You gotta let it go sometimes man... play an enh shammy for a while, you'll learn quick, you gotta let the focus go sometimes |
| 18:46.09 | Snago | Bandage > eating |
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| 18:50.18 | Arrowmaster | hehe i had a surplus of like 100 heavy runecloth bandages ive been using up |
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| 18:52.40 | VonhintenHOME` | What's the story with Tiger's Fury.. recommended to use or not? |
| 18:53.07 | charon | forget it even exists ... at least until wotlk, rumours are it'll be buffed |
| 18:53.55 | VonhintenHOME` | even leveling up? |
| 18:57.36 | charon | run the numbers on your level... rationale goes like this: TF gets you like +40dmg on 5 attacks and maybe 3 specials for 30 energy, so that's like 320dmg --- or you could spend 40E to claw/mangle for increased base damage |
| 18:58.03 | charon | now i don't know the numbers for levelling, but my mangles hit in the 8xx range |
| 18:58.14 | charon | not to mention the extra CP gained |
| 18:58.40 | Hjalte | Is there anyway where I can see how much 250 shadow resistance is going to help, like in average resisted amounts etc.? |
| 18:59.19 | charon | lua> 250./365 * .75 |
| 18:59.19 | lua_bot | charon: 0.51369863013699 |
| 18:59.24 | charon | assuming a level 73 mob |
| 18:59.40 | Hjalte | That means 50% less damage? |
| 18:59.45 | charon | on average |
| 19:00.14 | charon | i don't know the exact chances for each resist level |
| 19:02.38 | CIA-43 | 03apoco * r76950 10RBM_AbilityWatch/RBM_AbilityWatch.lua: |
| 19:02.38 | CIA-43 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 19:02.38 | CIA-43 | - Updated Spell List to include forum post fixes for debuffs being filtered as buffs. |
| 19:02.38 | CIA-43 | - Added Disarm, Lightning Speed tracking. |
| 19:02.46 | CIA-43 | 03charon * r76951 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: Skinner: fix several parse errors in localisation |
| 19:03.37 | charon | i wish the pre-commit would test that it at least parses |
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| 19:06.24 | CIA-43 | 03apoco * r76952 10RBM/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:06.24 | CIA-43 | RBM: |
| 19:06.24 | CIA-43 | -De|BuffWatch: Added Wel Fed to trackable list |
| 19:06.24 | CIA-43 | -Added new base api module:SetIconCoord(label, left, right, top, bottom) |
| 19:07.48 | CIA-43 | 03cremor * r76953 10Libramswapper/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:07.48 | CIA-43 | Libramswapper: |
| 19:07.48 | CIA-43 | - Added keybindings for enable/disable Addon and usage of PvP Libram. |
| 19:07.48 | CIA-43 | - Now checks "<=" instead of "<" for mana minimum for LoAT. This allows usage of LoAT with 100% mana. |
| 19:07.49 | CIA-43 | - Updated toc and readme files to contain the links to the official threads. |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-43 | 03apoco * r76954 10RBM_Capping/Capping.lua: |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-43 | RBM_Capping: |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-43 | - Fix: Icon's not mapping properly |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-43 | - Fix: Bars not going away when leaving a battleground |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-43 | - Fix: Error regarding time a nil value (amazed it was never reported) |
| 19:08.24 | CIA-43 | - Fix: Error with some bars not updating properly with changing times. |
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| 19:11.12 | Mytos | afternoon folks |
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| 19:13.52 | Mytos | afternoon folks |
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| 19:16.53 | CIA-43 | 03totalpackage * r76955 10StellarBars/StellarBars.lua: |
| 19:16.53 | CIA-43 | StellarBars |
| 19:16.53 | CIA-43 | - initialize button color fix |
| 19:18.09 | Mytos | so can anyone tell me why closetgnome switcher went mia? |
| 19:20.29 | Gnarfoz | doesn't look like it did? |
| 19:20.30 | Gnarfoz | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClosetGnome_Switcher/ |
| 19:21.42 | Gnarfoz | yeah, still there http://files.wowace.com/ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.zip |
| 19:22.14 | Mytos | yeah but its not on updater or the wiki anymore, and hasnt been updated |
| 19:22.33 | Gnarfoz | why would it be updated |
| 19:22.41 | Mytos | why wouldnt it? |
| 19:22.46 | Gnarfoz | what for? |
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| 19:22.49 | Gnarfoz | also, it IS on the updater, the .zip is there. |
| 19:23.49 | Gnarfoz | try using the search/filter box in the updater. ;) |
| 19:24.26 | Mytos | not showin up in my updater |
| 19:24.36 | Gnarfoz | don't think you're using WAU then. |
| 19:25.09 | Gnarfoz | your updater's fault, then. it's under 'outdated' in WAU. =] |
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| 19:34.16 | AckisWork | http://kotaku.com/5013148/jack-thompson-walks-out-on-hearing-bar-recommends-enhanced-disbarment rofl |
| 19:35.47 | Dashkal | old news :p |
| 19:36.36 | AckisWork | still funny :P |
| 19:38.35 | syeren | 8D |
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| 19:40.20 | NeoTron | outdated ~= not usable |
| 19:44.35 | Fisker- | the funny one was where he sent a letter stating that maybe he should just kill 3000 people like other prisoners on guantanamo bay, which had more rights than he did |
| 19:44.36 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 19:46.06 | Dashkal | What a bloddy fruitcake... Sadly that's exactly the kind of "expert" the sensationalist press laps up. |
| 19:47.10 | AckisWork | well isn't guantanamo bay the only place in the US to get free health care? :P |
| 19:47.56 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: you're late, and tell that to the maker of his updater, not me :p |
| 19:50.33 | durcyn | charon: resist steps every 15 points last i checked, fwiw |
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| 19:57.53 | Hjalte | Are there any calculations on how much spell damage the proc on the SSO neck is worth to an aldor warlock? |
| 19:58.22 | NivFreak | did you check wowhead? |
| 19:58.49 | Gnarfoz | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14; .NET CLR 3.0; ffco7) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14 <-- o_O why is mozilla serving outdated builds? |
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| 19:59.58 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: yes, I was just reading about that yesterday |
| 20:00.14 | Ellipsis | it hasn't been done on the shadowpriest.com trinket list yet, but wowhead has some good math in the comments |
| 20:00.23 | cremor | Gnarfoz, what do you mean? i have Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 |
| 20:00.41 | Gnarfoz | see my rv? |
| 20:00.49 | Gnarfoz | 1.8.1.14 |
| 20:01.07 | Gnarfoz | and gecko from april |
| 20:01.23 | Gnarfoz | even though that's from Firefox Setup 3.0 from ftp.mozilla.org :\ |
| 20:02.13 | cremor | sure? i downloaded mine also from ftp.mozilla.org and its 3.0 |
| 20:02.58 | CIA-43 | 03nevcairiel * r76956 10HotCandy/HotCandy.lua: HotCandy: disable swiftmend tracking for now, causes some weird behaviour |
| 20:02.59 | NivFreak | my mac and linux download are rev 1.9 |
| 20:03.07 | Silviu- | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 |
| 20:03.14 | Zyndrome | http://ftp.df.lth.se/mozilla/firefox/releases/3.0/win32/ , non-borked mirror |
| 20:03.29 | Silviu- | Need addons mirror :/ |
| 20:03.37 | Silviu- | For firefox ;p |
| 20:03.40 | cremor | me too ^^ |
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| 20:04.12 | AckisWork | why no 64 bit releases? |
| 20:04.41 | Zyndrome | they couldn't make it run on Nintendo 64 |
| 20:04.44 | Zyndrome | *ba-dom-tiss* |
| 20:04.50 | cremor | lol |
| 20:05.23 | profalbert | AckisWork: where's the point w/o flash and java-plugin |
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| 20:06.05 | AckisWork | 64 bit > 32 bit therefore it is better |
| 20:06.12 | AckisWork | like orange > purple > blue > green |
| 20:06.17 | cremor | can someone tell me after which time the svn creates a new build for files.wowace.com? all x minutes? or x minutes after the last checkin? |
| 20:06.38 | AckisWork | cremor: every 20 mins iirc |
| 20:06.56 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: dunno they never really believed in 64bit releases |
| 20:07.00 | cubicool | zomg wine v1.0 |
| 20:07.13 | Gnarfoz | cremor: not every 20mins. more like every hour these days |
| 20:07.21 | breser | From my experience it builds it every 20 minutes but it takes closer to 40 before it's available on files.wowace.com |
| 20:07.24 | nevcairiel | i think its twice an hour |
| 20:07.26 | cremor | that's also what i remember, but then the svn is late the last few days ;-) 30-40 minutes around... |
| 20:07.27 | Gnarfoz | (last official word I heard was 30mins, actually) |
| 20:07.36 | AckisWork | woudn't a 64-bit release run faster on those systems however? |
| 20:07.40 | Gnarfoz | it's *not* 20mins anymore, that's for sure. |
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| 20:07.52 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: in theory, and probably only marginally, but yes |
| 20:07.53 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: no? how would a web browser benefit from a 64bit environment |
| 20:08.04 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76957 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ (Build.lua LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/lib.xml): |
| 20:08.04 | CIA-43 | LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0: |
| 20:08.04 | CIA-43 | - Added lib.xml (prefered way to include as an embedded) |
| 20:08.04 | CIA-43 | - Slight changes to Build.lua for the future |
| 20:08.04 | nevcairiel | how doesnt it? |
| 20:08.08 | nevcairiel | any application does |
| 20:08.16 | Gnarfoz | err no? |
| 20:08.22 | breser | Gnarfoz: Memory. |
| 20:08.29 | AckisWork | a native 64 bit OS needs to switch to 32-bit compat to run that... |
| 20:08.33 | breser | The biggest benefit of a 64-bit enviornment is access to more memory. |
| 20:08.35 | profalbert | nevcairiel: actually some suffer a performance-decrease |
| 20:08.37 | Gnarfoz | well? my memory is not used up on 32bit, so that point is moot |
| 20:08.44 | breser | And web browsers are absurd memory hogs. |
| 20:08.55 | Gnarfoz | actually, those are called 'memory leaks' |
| 20:08.58 | AckisWork | brb installing 3.0 |
| 20:09.19 | Gnarfoz | and they exist because of faulty programming, not 'per se' |
| 20:09.20 | nevcairiel | profalbert: those are coded quite badly then :P |
| 20:09.30 | profalbert | yes they are |
| 20:09.30 | breser | Gnarfoz: Some are some aren't. There's a certain amount of caching and what not that happens to speed us browsing that's intentional. |
| 20:09.46 | Gnarfoz | breser: sure, nowhere in the range of 'memory hog' though. |
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| 20:10.02 | Gnarfoz | except you're taking 128mb ram as your point of view |
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| 20:10.20 | AckisWork | I'm now 3.0 |
| 20:10.21 | AckisWork | go me? |
| 20:10.23 | breser | But outside scientific apps the benefit of 64-bit platforms is larger pointers so more memory. |
| 20:10.35 | Gnarfoz | woohoo, more memory I already have enough of. |
| 20:10.38 | Gnarfoz | -> no benefit |
| 20:10.59 | Gnarfoz | theoretical benefits suck :> |
| 20:11.06 | Gnarfoz | also, still 1.8.1.14, wtf |
| 20:11.07 | AckisWork | isn't it also the size of the registers used, ie: I can do a 64-bit operation instead of a 32-bit one? |
| 20:11.16 | AckisWork | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0 |
| 20:11.18 | Gnarfoz | *uninstalling 2.0.0.4* |
| 20:11.22 | AckisWork | victory |
| 20:11.37 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: again, an application would have to be programmed specifically to benefit from that. |
| 20:11.42 | breser | AckisWork: The register size is the reason you can use more memory because the processer can access the memory. |
| 20:12.03 | Gnarfoz | I think firefox can do quite well with 2gb for one process. ;) |
| 20:12.09 | AckisWork | but isn't that the point of a 64-bit OS? :P |
| 20:12.39 | Gnarfoz | the point is to be *able* to run applications that are designed to benefit from 64bit environments |
| 20:12.47 | Gnarfoz | it's not a magic cure to make everything faster |
| 20:12.51 | breser | Doesn't matter what processor you have if the OS can't manage the memory. |
| 20:12.53 | Gnarfoz | not even remotely |
| 20:13.03 | Gnarfoz | breser: would you shut up about memory, lol |
| 20:13.18 | AckisWork | all things being equal, an application written for a 32-bit OS will perform slower than one written for a 64-bit OS |
| 20:13.30 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: likely. |
| 20:13.35 | Gnarfoz | but marginally. |
| 20:13.37 | breser | Then explain a single real benefit of 64-bit without just saying 64-bit. |
| 20:13.46 | breser | Or "applications that can benefit from" |
| 20:13.49 | Gnarfoz | ackis already did that. |
| 20:13.57 | Gnarfoz | <AckisWork> isn't it also the size of the registers used, ie: I can do a 64-bit operation instead of a 32-bit one? <-- the latter part. |
| 20:13.59 | AckisWork | more address space for memory, twice the size of registers |
| 20:14.00 | VonhintenHOME` | more addressable memory |
| 20:14.12 | Gnarfoz | srsly, what is your damn memory problem xD |
| 20:14.19 | Gnarfoz | 3.5gig not enough for you? |
| 20:14.24 | AckisWork | I have 4 gigs |
| 20:14.28 | AckisWork | so no, it wasn't |
| 20:14.35 | nevcairiel | dont forget hdd access, that is internally handled in 48 bit, yet your OS has to remap that to 32-bit |
| 20:14.37 | AckisWork | do you want 640 kb? :P |
| 20:14.40 | nevcairiel | that is dropped in 64-bit cpus |
| 20:15.01 | breser | Yeah I have 4 GB as well. |
| 20:15.01 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: sure, I'd say my hdd controller does that, not my OS |
| 20:15.02 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: couldn't that potentially mean larger HD's as it can map to 64-bit as well? |
| 20:15.10 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: no, not at all. |
| 20:15.14 | VonhintenHOME` | plus, 64bit processors have DEP built into hardware |
| 20:15.18 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: did you check how much 48bit is? :) |
| 20:15.20 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: lol, so whats the point? |
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| 20:15.27 | AckisWork | it's a lot :P 2^48 |
| 20:15.28 | Gnarfoz | you can use W^X/DEP/etc. on 32bit, too. |
| 20:15.36 | breser | At least on intel/amd platforms all 64bit stuff has NX as well. |
| 20:15.47 | Gnarfoz | 32 |
| 20:16.00 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yet if your OS and CPU runs in 64 bit, there doesnt have to be any re-mapping |
| 20:16.02 | nevcairiel | look it up! :) |
| 20:16.05 | breser | But I think the newer 32-bit processors can have it too. It's just that everything 64 bit is sure to have it. |
| 20:16.07 | AckisWork | but as hardware increases you have games that take up more and more.. .AoC is like 20 - 30 gigs isn't it? WoW is like 8 gigs now |
| 20:16.07 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: show me |
| 20:16.25 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: if you care, look it up, if you dont, fine with me, i know what i know :P |
| 20:16.33 | AckisWork | lua> 2^48 |
| 20:16.34 | lua_bot | AckisWork: 2.8147497671066e+14 |
| 20:16.40 | Gnarfoz | breser: the point is, you can use the NX/W^X/DEP features of 64bit cpus can be used on 32bit OS's, too. |
| 20:16.58 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: so what? that's never loaded into memory at the same time, ever |
| 20:17.16 | Gnarfoz | too many 'can be used' in my second-to-last ;P |
| 20:17.20 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: the conversation switched from memory to hard disk space :P |
| 20:17.31 | Gnarfoz | hard disk space has *nothing* to do with 64bit OS's |
| 20:17.41 | Gnarfoz | also: hard drives are what... permanent memory? yeah. |
| 20:17.50 | AckisWork | hence why the conversation switched, get with the times! |
| 20:17.57 | AckisWork | ~lart Gnarfoz |
| 20:17.57 | purl | whacks Gnarfoz with a giant beaver's tail |
| 20:18.02 | Gnarfoz | also, woo, firefox 3 removed firefox 2 from my uninstall list |
| 20:18.07 | Gnarfoz | yet, firefox 3 is not firefox 3 |
| 20:18.11 | nevcairiel | good that no-one listens and still spreads false intel |
| 20:18.19 | breser | Gnarfoz: One question for you. Have you ever written C or ASM? |
| 20:18.22 | nevcairiel | 64-bit OS has to do with HDD :P |
| 20:18.28 | Gnarfoz | breser: C, yes, and that has nothing to do with this |
| 20:18.54 | AckisWork | well writing in ASM you'd know the differences with a 64 bit OS and a 32 bit one :P |
| 20:18.58 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: not in regards of possible disk size, which was what ackis was saying |
| 20:19.04 | nevcairiel | no, that not |
| 20:19.08 | nevcairiel | controllers use 48-bit these days |
| 20:19.14 | AckisWork | I was asking a question about disk space :P |
| 20:19.16 | nevcairiel | but mapping file pointers etc |
| 20:19.25 | nevcairiel | 64-bit pointers are nice :) |
| 20:19.45 | Gnarfoz | srsly, you're NOT using an application that has any routines that use 64bit operations. so a 64bit build would only eliminate, if at all, performance lost because of a bad 32bit compat layer in your 64bit OS. |
| 20:20.13 | Gnarfoz | that's what it boils down to, to answer the original question :p |
| 20:20.21 | AckisWork | any compat layer is going to add performance loss, regardless if it's bad or not :P |
| 20:20.37 | Matrix110| | The point is: Why delay a switch that has to happen anyway |
| 20:20.44 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: it's hot when the sun shines all day, too |
| 20:20.53 | AckisWork | and to remove that compat layer it just requires you to compile code differently, so why not offer both? |
| 20:21.10 | CIA-43 | 03mokhtar * r76958 10ShadowFriend/ (34 files in 5 dirs): |
| 20:21.10 | CIA-43 | ShadowFriend: initial commit |
| 20:21.10 | CIA-43 | - Records and historize shadowpriests performances over multiple fights |
| 20:21.19 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110|: what switch? there IS no 64 bit build available, and even if it were, it would be a marginal benefit. yay. they just build 'em later because of the smaller userbase |
| 20:21.34 | Matrix110| | No I meant OS wise |
| 20:21.39 | Gnarfoz | this was not about OS choice |
| 20:21.52 | Matrix110| | then I didnt read up far enough sorry :P |
| 20:22.02 | AckisWork | the question started with why isn't there ever a 64-bit firefox :P |
| 20:22.09 | AckisWork | and it got into "why would you want one" |
| 20:22.11 | Gnarfoz | get the source and build it |
| 20:22.18 | Gnarfoz | yay, 64bit ff :D |
| 20:22.29 | renchap | my ff is 64 bit :) |
| 20:22.32 | Gnarfoz | now, why does my firefox still show itself als not rev 1.9 |
| 20:22.36 | AckisWork | I don't know the first thing about compiling on a windows box :P |
| 20:22.39 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: steal renchap's build |
| 20:22.57 | AckisWork | I keep typing gcc and nothing happens :( |
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| 20:22.59 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:23.05 | renchap | emerge -av firefox |
| 20:23.08 | renchap | gentoo > * |
| 20:23.20 | Gnarfoz | ricer! :> |
| 20:23.35 | Matrix110| | I read atleast that compiling applications with 64bit doesnt really do the trick and that more reprogramming is needed |
| 20:23.37 | AckisWork | so the moral of this whole conversation: 64 bit > 32 bit :D |
| 20:23.51 | Matrix110| | (atleast if they arent coded with 64bit in mind already) |
| 20:24.01 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110|: that is indeed the case |
| 20:24.09 | AckisWork | I wonder what the market share for 64 bit is now |
| 20:24.18 | Gnarfoz | fuzzy representation: low |
| 20:24.22 | Matrix110| | really low |
| 20:24.27 | AckisWork | and frankly why just go to 64 bit, 256 bit ftw :P |
| 20:24.37 | AckisWork | wants a FF3.0-256bit version |
| 20:24.39 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:24.46 | Matrix110| | Only people that isntall the OS by themselves pretty much have 64bit OSes on the private side |
| 20:25.07 | Matrix110| | Didnt see a pre installed Vista 64 yet |
| 20:25.09 | renchap | macs are 64 bits for 2 years or so |
| 20:25.16 | AckisWork | macs are paperweights, next |
| 20:25.17 | Gnarfoz | nah, we sell 64bit preinstalls, too, but just because 64 is a bigger number than 32 and ppl don't know shit |
| 20:25.48 | Matrix110| | renchap MS actually didnt want to bring out 32bit Vista but they had to in the end because companies/manufactures bitched |
| 20:25.50 | Fisker- | IT'S FX |
| 20:25.52 | Fisker- | actually |
| 20:25.53 | Fisker- | Fx |
| 20:25.57 | Gnarfoz | it's never been fx |
| 20:25.57 | Fisker- | BUT I NEED TO USE CAPS |
| 20:25.58 | Gnarfoz | shutup |
| 20:25.59 | Matrix110| | Apple can just say: fuck you all we make it 64bit now |
| 20:26.01 | Fisker- | cause i'm VERY ANGRY |
| 20:26.42 | cubicool | save the drama for obama |
| 20:26.47 | cubicool | that's what i think, personally |
| 20:26.47 | VonhintenHOME` | Intel kinda failed on their push to 64 |
| 20:26.50 | Fisker- | nah |
| 20:26.57 | Gnarfoz | well, wtf, still at "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14; .NET CLR 3.0; ffco7) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14" |
| 20:27.03 | KarlThePagan | uh... you heard of ia-64? |
| 20:27.03 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 20:27.16 | KarlThePagan | raise your hand if you run ia-64 |
| 20:27.19 | Fisker- | Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1) |
| 20:27.19 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 20:27.22 | Gnarfoz | KarlThePagan: yeah, that kind of failed in terms of market share, didn't it. :p |
| 20:27.40 | Fisker- | Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.2; WOW64; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.5.21022) <-though it really is that because of teh user agent spams |
| 20:27.41 | KarlThePagan | Gnarfoz, yea :( it looked like a sweet architecture tho |
| 20:28.07 | Gnarfoz | ie7 runs inside wow64? |
| 20:28.08 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 20:28.13 | KarlThePagan | it does |
| 20:28.18 | Fisker- | Windows on Wheels 64? :P |
| 20:28.22 | KarlThePagan | but syswow64 is amd-64 not ia-64 |
| 20:28.28 | *** part/#wowace cubicool (n=cubicool@router.emperor-sw2.exsbs.net) |
| 20:28.34 | KarlThePagan | something like that |
| 20:28.37 | Fisker- | Windows-on-Windows 64-bit |
| 20:28.37 | Fisker- | damn |
| 20:28.39 | Fisker- | close |
| 20:28.53 | KarlThePagan | thanks to that shit my winsxs directory is 11gb |
| 20:29.04 | KarlThePagan | great jorb microsoft! great jorb! |
| 20:29.24 | Gnarfoz | well, I guess I'll have to wait until mozilla unfucks their mirrors |
| 20:29.38 | Fisker- | do want moar 64-bit support |
| 20:29.38 | KarlThePagan | I was able to download :/ |
| 20:29.39 | Matrix110| | hmm? |
| 20:29.40 | Gnarfoz | all I'm getting is Firefox 3's with version strings that say it's 2.0.0.14 |
| 20:29.48 | KarlThePagan | oh lol |
| 20:29.48 | Matrix110| | I just downloaded with 240kbs(which is my max) |
| 20:30.00 | Gnarfoz | although it's obviously 3.0, because all features work |
| 20:30.05 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz it's obviously a trick to make you download it several times |
| 20:30.14 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: that's what SHE said |
| 20:30.18 | CIA-43 | 03starinnia * r76959 10StatBlocks_Reagents/StatBlocks_Reagents.lua: StatBlocks_Reagents: tweak events |
| 20:30.29 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:30.34 | laeg | any pvp warriors in? |
| 20:30.37 | Fisker- | That IS what the she said |
| 20:30.42 | Fisker- | I mean the one from Mozilla |
| 20:30.43 | VonhintenHOME` | why is your winsxs 11gb? mine is only just over 5 with full dev tools |
| 20:31.41 | Fisker- | i wanna troll you Gnarfoz |
| 20:31.55 | Gnarfoz | I put on my robe and wizard hat... |
| 20:32.08 | Fisker- | i take it off |
| 20:32.09 | charon | durcyn: oh. thanks for the info |
| 20:32.16 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: did you modify the version string in the config? :P |
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| 20:32.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I didn't, but maybe something else did, good call |
| 20:32.37 | Gnarfoz | because I have no idea what "ffco7" is |
| 20:32.38 | breser | Hmm so why do the Firefox 3.0 links go to a release canidate when this is supposedly the download day... |
| 20:32.49 | Gnarfoz | lol a warning when opening about:config |
| 20:32.51 | Fisker- | Internet Explorer doesn't even let you worry about user agent strings |
| 20:32.52 | Fisker- | baww |
| 20:32.56 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: looks like some crazy version o.O |
| 20:33.31 | Gnarfoz | ffco is firefox ClickOnce, I think |
| 20:33.39 | Gnarfoz | that .net starter extension |
| 20:33.51 | Gnarfoz | grrr |
| 20:33.55 | Gnarfoz | general.useragent.override |
| 20:33.59 | Gnarfoz | "user set" |
| 20:34.05 | Gnarfoz | fuck whatever extension did that :p |
| 20:34.09 | nevcairiel | clickonce o.O |
| 20:34.24 | nevcairiel | i deleted all my settings when i installed 3.0 |
| 20:34.34 | nevcairiel | and imported bookmarks back in |
| 20:34.40 | Gnarfoz | I just installed, at least 3.0 is smart enough to remove 2.0 correctly |
| 20:34.45 | Gnarfoz | 2.0 didn't remove 1.5 |
| 20:35.00 | Gnarfoz | "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0" yay |
| 20:35.19 | Fisker- | i don't like what i'm seeing |
| 20:35.34 | CIA-43 | 03mokhtar * r76960 10GridDynamicLayout/: |
| 20:35.34 | CIA-43 | GridDynamicLayout: |
| 20:35.34 | CIA-43 | - Added commit template :p |
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| 20:36.18 | CIA-43 | 03mokhtar * r76961 10ShadowFriend/: |
| 20:36.18 | CIA-43 | ShadowFriend: |
| 20:36.18 | CIA-43 | - Commited externals properties |
| 20:36.54 | KarlThePagan | oh shit... FF3 remembered to restore my session |
| 20:36.56 | KarlThePagan | yay |
| 20:38.10 | Fisker- | It's Fx |
| 20:38.11 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 20:38.57 | CIA-43 | 03mokhtar * r76962 10ShadowFriend/ShadowFriend.toc: |
| 20:38.57 | CIA-43 | ShadowFriend: |
| 20:38.57 | CIA-43 | - Updated dependances |
| 20:39.43 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 20:41.41 | Gnarfoz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2JChnwv2Ws |
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| 20:42.17 | NeoTron | one thing that disappointed me in FF3 is that it doesn't handle WWS well |
| 20:42.31 | NeoTron | only browser that does is ... made by apple :P |
| 20:42.40 | Matrix110| | wws? |
| 20:42.42 | Matrix110| | webstats? |
| 20:42.54 | Fisker- | It's Fx |
| 20:43.00 | NeoTron | wow web stats |
| 20:43.03 | AckisWork | what the hell is Fx? |
| 20:43.05 | Matrix110| | worsk fine here |
| 20:43.10 | CIA-43 | 03mokhtar * r76963 10ShadowFriend/ShadowFriend.toc: |
| 20:43.10 | CIA-43 | ShadowFriend: |
| 20:43.10 | CIA-43 | - Added wiki / forum thread in toc |
| 20:43.16 | NeoTron | you probably don't have a lage list of raids |
| 20:43.53 | profalbert | AckisWork: Mozilla Firefox (abbreviated officially as Fx... |
| 20:43.55 | Cheads | wws? haven't noticed any problems with FF3 and wws? |
| 20:44.03 | profalbert | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox |
| 20:44.15 | NeoTron | specifically I have 228 reports |
| 20:44.21 | NeoTron | going back one year |
| 20:44.26 | AckisWork | FF > Fx :P |
| 20:44.36 | NeoTron | and FF2 has the same issue, as does Opera and MSIE |
| 20:44.39 | AckisWork | but I didn't know it was abbreviated that |
| 20:44.48 | Fisker- | btw |
| 20:44.50 | AckisWork | NeoTron: don't reports get deleted? |
| 20:44.50 | Fisker- | It's Fx :D |
| 20:44.50 | Matrix110| | hmm cant see how many i have here but ~150 |
| 20:45.07 | NeoTron | Safari doesn't |
| 20:45.10 | Matrix110| | AckisWork if you pay no |
| 20:45.12 | Cheads | maybe it's a wws bug and not a browser bug? =) |
| 20:45.12 | NeoTron | AckisWork: paid account |
| 20:45.16 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 20:45.24 | NeoTron | I have no doubt the fault is WWS |
| 20:45.39 | NeoTron | but the problem is when LEAVING the page, it locks up the browser, I get a warning abotu non-responsive script |
| 20:45.45 | Fisker- | sleep tiems though |
| 20:45.45 | NeoTron | and it's fricking annoying |
| 20:45.48 | Matrix110| | are the reports public? |
| 20:45.48 | NeoTron | leave or close the page |
| 20:45.56 | NeoTron | my guild page isn't |
| 20:46.00 | Matrix110| | :-( |
| 20:46.41 | NeoTron | it might be as simple as safari just closing the page when I ask to close it withotu execusint whatever crap WWS wants to execute |
| 20:46.52 | tz8 | but you can make it public, the link to the wws guild page is not restricted |
| 20:47.26 | tz8 | at least not on my unltd account |
| 20:47.30 | NeoTron | tz8: going via the guild page => use the paid account benefits (priority queue, no ads etc) |
| 20:48.06 | Matrix110| | ads? |
| 20:48.13 | NeoTron | I thought they had ads |
| 20:48.14 | Matrix110| | I dont see any |
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| 20:48.22 | NeoTron | I am paid and I have adblock so not an issue |
| 20:48.25 | NeoTron | maybe tey stopped |
| 20:48.29 | nevcairiel | they have ads if you dont pay |
| 20:48.30 | tz8 | NeoTron: i have an unlimited account |
| 20:48.30 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 20:48.31 | Matrix110| | I have adblock |
| 20:48.33 | Matrix110| | and noscrupt |
| 20:48.34 | Matrix110| | :P |
| 20:48.44 | tz8 | but just 2 raids online |
| 20:48.46 | durcyn | works fine here with squid/adzapper and ff3, NeoTron |
| 20:48.57 | durcyn | and 9 months worth of history on my unlimited account, fwiw |
| 20:49.46 | NeoTron | durcyn: I ran it in the debugger. it's one of the javascripts that use CPU |
| 20:49.54 | NeoTron | it's nothing "specific to me" |
| 20:50.15 | NeoTron | are you looking at "My Reports" or the guild URL? |
| 20:50.31 | NeoTron | because it seems like "my reports" is fine |
| 20:51.43 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/vnu1gmd65tfp5 our first T5 kill! |
| 20:51.53 | durcyn | that's what i'm saying, i think it's an advertisement js |
| 20:52.02 | durcyn | since my proxy replaces those with nil |
| 20:52.25 | NeoTron | I am pretty sure it's not |
| 20:52.28 | NeoTron | I ran it in the debugger |
| 20:52.34 | NeoTron | JS debugger |
| 20:53.32 | Cheads | what's the trick so tank will get aggro after dive bomb in p2 on al'ar? al'ar seems to oneshot dps after dive bomb |
| 20:54.04 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/st/jquery.js |
| 20:54.18 | NeoTron | Cheads: not be above the tanks in threat would be good |
| 20:54.28 | NeoTron | other than that it's just normal threat - he always returns to one of the tanks |
| 20:54.37 | charon | Cheads: i think he does a knockback right after reappearing, so the tanks would do well to stay away from the spawn and charge&taunt |
| 20:54.44 | NeoTron | well one thing |
| 20:54.49 | NeoTron | don't stand where he lands |
| 20:54.56 | NeoTron | whomever he targets needs to move the heck out |
| 20:55.44 | Cheads | threat doesn't clear right? |
| 20:56.08 | charon | don't think so, but he's tauntable, so does it matter? |
| 20:56.23 | NivFreak | Cheads: taunt before he moves between platforms each time |
| 20:56.27 | VonhintenHOME` | dps shouldn't be getting one shot by that |
| 20:56.32 | NivFreak | he IS tauntable |
| 20:56.39 | NeoTron | it seems he's using some old version of a javascript lib that has had huge performance improvements |
| 20:56.39 | NivFreak | threatlib just fails at displaying it |
| 20:56.41 | charon | threat-2.0 doesn't have a module so he probably does not reset in any case |
| 20:57.17 | NivFreak | a'lar maintains threat from phase 1 to phase 2 |
| 20:57.17 | Cheads | yes.. he is tauntable.. just doesn't seem the can taunt him fast enough before he kill a random dps |
| 20:57.18 | NivFreak | but taunting him works properly in both phases, it's just displayed incorrectly by threat/omen |
| 20:57.26 | NivFreak | taunt before phase 2 starts |
| 20:57.35 | NivFreak | have your warlocks who will be above you shatter |
| 20:57.37 | NeoTron | and no there's no threat reset at all in the right |
| 20:57.39 | NeoTron | fight |
| 20:57.45 | NivFreak | yea, no reset |
| 20:58.14 | NivFreak | Cheads: <-- MT. I try to taunt before each platform change |
| 20:58.17 | NivFreak | and have all my tanks do it |
| 20:58.26 | NivFreak | we move everyone to the doorway on the transition |
| 20:58.39 | NivFreak | 2 tanks between the middle of the room where he respawns, and the rest of the raid |
| 20:58.43 | Cheads | NivFreak it's after the meteor / divebomb thing |
| 20:58.49 | NivFreak | huh? |
| 20:58.55 | Cheads | in p2 |
| 20:58.59 | NivFreak | you lose aggro? |
| 20:59.03 | NivFreak | that's just overaggro then |
| 20:59.05 | NivFreak | your DPS fail |
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| 20:59.22 | NivFreak | sometimes he'll flame buffet 1-2 times |
| 20:59.25 | NivFreak | then go to the tank |
| 20:59.35 | NivFreak | just sit back and take it |
| 20:59.55 | NivFreak | if they are actually pulling threat, then kick them out of the raid for being retarded |
| 21:00.43 | Cheads | according to omen they are far from having most threat |
| 21:00.57 | NivFreak | are they getting one shotted by his charge? |
| 21:01.03 | NivFreak | or is this the charge/melee bug |
| 21:01.07 | NivFreak | that blizzard never fixes |
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| 21:01.19 | nevcairiel | charge + hit = win^^ |
| 21:01.31 | Cheads | they get hit by 12-13k.. so I assume that's normal threat |
| 21:01.33 | NivFreak | every boss that has a charge mechanic, I've seen do that |
| 21:01.43 | Cheads | since after the first is dead.. al'ar goes to another dps |
| 21:01.45 | NivFreak | Cheads: ask them to look at thier combat log |
| 21:02.04 | NivFreak | remind them not to go over 110% threat ;P |
| 21:02.08 | NivFreak | charge == melee range |
| 21:02.42 | nevcairiel | on alar you shouldnt go above 100% |
| 21:02.47 | nevcairiel | or you have aggro after bomb |
| 21:02.59 | NeoTron | of course with the lock w/o salv method we've never had any threat isssues in phase 2, ever |
| 21:03.13 | NivFreak | lock w/o salv method? |
| 21:03.14 | Cheads | ok |
| 21:04.03 | NivFreak | have him build massive threat in phase 1, taunt, then shatter? |
| 21:04.03 | NeoTron | ni phase 1, locks dps without salv (or I suppose, mages) |
| 21:04.03 | NeoTron | right |
| 21:04.03 | NeoTron | regularily taunt right when he transitions before threat is on the MT |
| 21:04.03 | NivFreak | yea, you could do that if needed |
| 21:04.03 | NeoTron | or so |
| 21:04.11 | NivFreak | We've never had any threat issues on him, minus the phase transition |
| 21:04.18 | NivFreak | and taunt solved that |
| 21:04.41 | Cheads | thanks, will try that |
| 21:04.47 | nevcairiel | our only issue was transition 1->2, but our dps just hides behind the tank |
| 21:04.48 | nevcairiel | and he taunts |
| 21:04.51 | NivFreak | I swear there was a point where taunts in phase 1 worked in threat... |
| 21:05.12 | sb | bah, people are too dumb |
| 21:05.19 | sb | felmyst :( |
| 21:05.27 | nevcairiel | i know the feeling sb |
| 21:05.31 | NivFreak | isn't that a retard check fight? |
| 21:05.35 | sb | YES |
| 21:05.37 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:05.41 | nevcairiel | we have too many of those |
| 21:05.43 | Funkeh` | is firefox 3 full launched now? |
| 21:05.44 | NivFreak | so you found your retards |
| 21:05.44 | sb | p1 perfect, p2 3+ ppl dead, EVERY TRY |
| 21:05.45 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:05.47 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: yea |
| 21:05.48 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: yes |
| 21:05.51 | Funkeh` | mozilla is being slammed |
| 21:05.53 | sb | its soo annoying |
| 21:05.56 | NeoTron | which pretty much matches at least Kalecgos, Felmyst, Twins in SWP (no experience beyond that) |
| 21:05.58 | Funkeh` | like a whore on drugs |
| 21:06.09 | NeoTron | sb: healers? |
| 21:06.14 | NeoTron | or people failing to run |
| 21:06.25 | nevcairiel | we have people failing to run |
| 21:06.30 | sb | healers failing to run :o |
| 21:06.34 | NeoTron | we have a person, a druid at that, who almost always fails doing the beam |
| 21:06.47 | sb | and people standing in that green vapor stuff |
| 21:06.48 | NivFreak | as much as I hate Archimonde, he keeps reminding me of what people I should be looking to replace |
| 21:06.59 | NeoTron | this is nothing like archimonde |
| 21:07.05 | NeoTron | archimonde does had a bad luck factor |
| 21:07.09 | NivFreak | sure |
| 21:07.11 | NeoTron | felmyst is pretty much purely fail |
| 21:07.14 | NivFreak | fuck you doomfire |
| 21:07.19 | NeoTron | failfactor :P |
| 21:07.21 | Matrix110| | Felmyst is like Heigan |
| 21:07.23 | NivFreak | well, that's better |
| 21:07.24 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:07.26 | NeoTron | mind you on our last kill I died twice |
| 21:07.26 | NivFreak | I love heigan |
| 21:07.28 | NeoTron | which was weird |
| 21:07.28 | Matrix110| | Heigan was insane |
| 21:07.36 | Matrix110| | We made PuG Naxx |
| 21:07.36 | NivFreak | I'm always the last person alive on heigan |
| 21:07.42 | Matrix110| | in the end we 2manned him |
| 21:07.45 | NeoTron | I was dpsing felmyst in the air and for some reason (w/o getting healed) I got aggro from the skellies and died |
| 21:07.54 | NeoTron | tried to get towards heaelrs and use pot etc and still failed |
| 21:07.55 | NivFreak | Matrix110|: yea, last Naxx pug I was in we 3 manned him at the end |
| 21:07.55 | Funkeh` | lol mozilla.com on low bandwidth page |
| 21:08.06 | NivFreak | found out he stops teleporting if only 3 are left |
| 21:08.11 | Matrix110| | NeoTron I had that aswell 40y away from the green beam and skellies come to me and rape me :D |
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| 21:08.25 | NivFreak | so twice on engage |
| 21:08.26 | NeoTron | the I was ressed, got encaps while trying to adjust a shammy for heroism (i.e 1-2 sec late) and all oh shit was on cooldown |
| 21:08.31 | NivFreak | one of my resto shaman has gotten aggro while mounted |
| 21:08.38 | NivFreak | I can only imagine it's watershield ticks or something |
| 21:08.39 | hypetech | geez. mozilla's servers are packed |
| 21:08.47 | NivFreak | I can find nothing in the logs to indicate why |
| 21:08.57 | NivFreak | and btw, why in the fuck does mounting clear the misdirect buff? |
| 21:09.12 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 21:09.17 | NeoTron | to prevent you from kiting a mob around? |
| 21:09.31 | NivFreak | prox aggro? |
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| 21:09.52 | NivFreak | that sucks so much for archimonde ;) |
| 21:09.54 | NeoTron | I asked a guy tha usually do fraps videos to make a recruitment video for us |
| 21:10.01 | NeoTron | showing highlights from bosses such as felmyst and twins |
| 21:10.10 | NivFreak | I prefer failure videos |
| 21:10.11 | NeoTron | basically a whole video of fail to show how much fun you can have |
| 21:10.17 | NivFreak | yea, we have a few of those |
| 21:10.29 | NivFreak | yakity sacks is always the best soundtrack we've found |
| 21:10.30 | tz8 | hypetech: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest-3.0/ |
| 21:11.01 | hypetech | tz8, ty |
| 21:11.27 | tz8 | should e lots faster |
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| 21:11.32 | hypetech | tz8, that shows last modified as 2008-Jun-11 |
| 21:11.43 | tz8 | i know, also wondered |
| 21:11.47 | Gnarfoz | does this work for anyone? |
| 21:11.48 | Gnarfoz | http://wowwebstats.com/1ie2ok46xe5ra |
| 21:12.02 | hypetech | Gnarfoz, |
| 21:12.02 | hypetech | The error has been reported to the the webmaster. |
| 21:12.02 | hypetech | Sorry for the inconvenience. |
| 21:12.06 | Gnarfoz | meh. |
| 21:12.11 | Gnarfoz | wws broke right under my nose, then |
| 21:12.18 | breser | works for me. |
| 21:12.42 | Gnarfoz | maybe simple overload, then, although it was fast before |
| 21:12.47 | tz8 | Gnarfoz: yep |
| 21:13.16 | NeoTron | MagicTargets, now with "wtf are you dpsing that mob for, Losertard?" tooltips http://eongames.com/tmp/mgt1tt.jpg |
| 21:13.35 | NeoTron | about time to post MgT and stuff on interface sites I think |
| 21:13.40 | NeoTron | get some exposure |
| 21:13.45 | sb | nah wws |
| 21:13.46 | sb | is broken |
| 21:13.47 | sb | :( |
| 21:14.21 | NeoTron | so my level 16 shaman was level 12 or so when I started using her as my addon developer character |
| 21:14.25 | Gnarfoz | sb: heh |
| 21:14.28 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: lol |
| 21:14.29 | NeoTron | I've levelled 4 times just killing mobs to test stuff out |
| 21:14.43 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: also, is MM working without throwing errors all over the place at the moment? |
| 21:14.48 | NeoTron | it should |
| 21:15.09 | NeoTron | fixed a bunch of bugs recently |
| 21:15.11 | Gnarfoz | k, had to disable it quite a while back when you switched to the new marking stuff, it didn't work at all |
| 21:15.18 | Gnarfoz | but this was, actually, months ago |
| 21:15.29 | NeoTron | I use it in every raid |
| 21:15.41 | NeoTron | things that are totally broken don't stay totally broken or I can't use it |
| 21:15.48 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:17.57 | NeoTron | did you see the mammoth mount in wotlk? |
| 21:18.00 | NeoTron | multi-user land mount |
| 21:18.19 | Gnarfoz | heh, not yet |
| 21:18.52 | NeoTron | http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5893/wowscrnshot061308163600dn5.jpg |
| 21:19.33 | hypetech | that's pretty sweet |
| 21:20.18 | NeoTron | http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/leviathonlx2/mammothmountepic.jpg 5-seater |
| 21:20.35 | Gnarfoz | w00t, the new 2.4 wws finally lets me own those ppl's asses who die to falling damage on Archimonde |
| 21:21.06 | NeoTron | is it the default yet/ |
| 21:21.16 | Gnarfoz | only for paid accounts |
| 21:21.19 | Gnarfoz | so, no |
| 21:21.32 | NeoTron | I mean when you click on a (paid account) report :P |
| 21:21.35 | Gnarfoz | and even then, he just stated it's supposed to be the default for paid accounts, but it isn't for me |
| 21:22.08 | Gnarfoz | if it were, why would there be different links for 2.4 renderer reports and ones with the old one |
| 21:23.01 | Gnarfoz | check these two, same report. first old, second new renderer: http://wowwebstats.com/1ie2ok46xe5ra http://wowwebstats.com/ynrnrn2ne66ie |
| 21:23.41 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: how so? |
| 21:23.44 | NivFreak | you mean the death report? |
| 21:24.08 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: accurate death replay (old one didn't report fall damage) and filtering by health potion & master healthstone |
| 21:24.15 | NivFreak | I used it to go through our 20 wipe night on archimonde and find all the failures |
| 21:24.24 | NivFreak | but there's a few false posatives |
| 21:24.25 | Gnarfoz | and death replay even shows 'ppl died in the last 5min' |
| 21:24.32 | NivFreak | people who get doomfired and then bursted |
| 21:24.35 | NivFreak | etc |
| 21:24.40 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but those I can clearly see |
| 21:24.41 | NivFreak | yea, it's useful |
| 21:25.03 | Gnarfoz | doomfire doesn't tick only every 5 minutes. :> if it's not in the death log, player didn't have doomfire |
| 21:25.20 | NivFreak | sure, you just have to look at each player for each attempt |
| 21:25.25 | Arrowmaster | we still need to make our own open source WWS |
| 21:25.39 | Gnarfoz | this one I was looking up just got soul charged just before, (4.5k fire dmg, thus, paladin died beforehand), but didn't use either healthstone or heal pot :) |
| 21:25.58 | VonhintenHOME` | I would love an open source WWS |
| 21:26.03 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: just make sure it doesn't suck and can withstand the load he gets |
| 21:26.17 | VonhintenHOME` | Fuck that, host it on my system for my guild |
| 21:26.19 | NeoTron | we're getting closed to coming back to pre 2.4 level of accuracy |
| 21:26.25 | NeoTron | now if only recount had proper death reports |
| 21:26.34 | NeoTron | did elysia disappear? |
| 21:26.39 | NeoTron | ~seen elysia |
| 21:26.58 | purl | elysia <n=gnustep@d83-180-100-171.cust.tele2.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 563d 4h 24m 17s ago, saying: '!popcon'. |
| 21:26.58 | Gnarfoz | ~seen elsia |
| 21:26.59 | purl | elsia <i=elsiarow@p57A2731D.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 37d 1h 24m 8s ago, saying: 'heya'. |
| 21:26.59 | NeoTron | loltypo |
| 21:27.01 | nevcairiel | elsia is still on the forums |
| 21:27.02 | NivFreak | I like the death miss messages |
| 21:27.10 | Gnarfoz | those are blizz's fault, though :\ |
| 21:27.11 | nevcairiel | kinda disappeared from irc |
| 21:27.18 | NeoTron | 37d indeed |
| 21:27.24 | NeoTron | recount death reports are just fail |
| 21:27.27 | NeoTron | atm |
| 21:27.29 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:27.34 | Gnarfoz | switching is the worst |
| 21:27.36 | NeoTron | rather they are not working, at all :P |
| 21:27.42 | Gnarfoz | you get data from... sometime! rather random |
| 21:27.49 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: we had one attempt where our warrior got doomfire, then airburst, he used a pot, a healthstone, and was on GCD for the tear |
| 21:27.50 | NeoTron | sometimes I get no data, sometimes I see 3 deaths on the same fght |
| 21:27.52 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:27.56 | NivFreak | fury warrior |
| 21:28.14 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but you could clearly see he had doomfire on him in the replay, though |
| 21:28.27 | NivFreak | yep |
| 21:28.39 | Arrowmaster | does WWS do log merging still? |
| 21:28.45 | Gnarfoz | yes, but it fails if it's melee logs |
| 21:28.48 | Gnarfoz | still not fixed |
| 21:29.07 | Gnarfoz | if you merge logs gathered from 2 melee players, all damage done by those melee players is doubled in the report |
| 21:29.13 | copystring | there's no other event then "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_XP_GAIN" that gives information about exp gains? |
| 21:29.31 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 21:29.38 | copystring | aw :< |
| 21:29.40 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: lol wtf? |
| 21:29.48 | NivFreak | that reminds me |
| 21:29.50 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: yeah, I'll dig one up, just a second |
| 21:29.54 | NivFreak | I have a log WWS can't parse from ZA last night |
| 21:29.57 | CIA-43 | 03durcyn * r76964 10Casualty/ (Casualty.lua Casualty.toc locale-enUS.lua locale-zhTW.lua): Casualty: Ace3/Sink2/LSM3 version - no more crappy libs. Everything works except possibly wipe detection, YMMV. |
| 21:29.59 | copystring | thx Arrowmaster |
| 21:30.21 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: report it in the forum thread, I'd say ;) or link here (zipped) |
| 21:30.26 | CIA-43 | 03durcyn * r76965 10Casualty/libs/: Casualty: nuke libs dir |
| 21:30.39 | NivFreak | we have WWS peeps here now? |
| 21:30.40 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:30.42 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 21:30.52 | Gnarfoz | but I'm interested in it and bored |
| 21:30.55 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:31.05 | NivFreak | hah |
| 21:31.06 | NivFreak | k |
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| 21:31.07 | NivFreak | one sec |
| 21:31.07 | Gnarfoz | http://wowwebstats.com/5fv6fhf5uuc3s pre-2.4 renderer / 2.4 renderer: http://wowwebstats.com/gdwcc15mydfes |
| 21:31.16 | Gnarfoz | my damage (Lolah) is doubled in both |
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| 21:31.27 | Gnarfoz | check individual bosses to see it clearly... |
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| 21:31.41 | Gnarfoz | the other log belongs to the MT, so it's not that obvious, but his dmg is doubled, too |
| 21:32.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah if anybody that worked on wws came in here they would probably quickly leave after all the bitching about how buggy its been and about being closed source |
| 21:32.34 | CIA-43 | 03durcyn * r76966 10Casualty/: Casualty: add svn:externals prop on root dir |
| 21:32.51 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/WWS-parse-error-prayforit.zip |
| 21:33.02 | NivFreak | now don't laugh at my first attempt of shadow dmg after a year |
| 21:33.03 | NivFreak | :P |
| 21:33.10 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: heh, can't blame him for exploiting its popularity, really - if you're spending that much time on something, I can see the motivation |
| 21:33.28 | nevcairiel | he is probably getting rich of it |
| 21:33.47 | Arrowmaster | doubt it since he fucking uses java servers |
| 21:33.51 | Gnarfoz | dunno, he's not obliged to publish any numbers due to being french ;> |
| 21:34.07 | nevcairiel | we should really build a open-source version |
| 21:34.13 | nevcairiel | just to screw his business up :D |
| 21:34.16 | Arrowmaster | antiarc has the domain already |
| 21:34.21 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 21:34.25 | laeg | does anybody here have a pvp warrior? |
| 21:34.26 | nevcairiel | he was talking about doing it |
| 21:34.31 | Gnarfoz | antiarc is showing ckk syndrome, though |
| 21:34.37 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 21:34.39 | NivFreak | laeg: sort of |
| 21:34.42 | Gnarfoz | too many popular, high-profile addons |
| 21:34.45 | nevcairiel | Antiarc still cares, he just doesnt have any time |
| 21:34.51 | NivFreak | kids eat your time |
| 21:34.56 | laeg | NivFreak: i need to know which order str > sta > agi go in for pvp |
| 21:34.56 | NivFreak | his is incoming soon enough :) |
| 21:34.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah hes really busy with work and stuff |
| 21:34.59 | Gnarfoz | he's gotkids now? |
| 21:35.03 | NivFreak | laeg: ah, I'm bad |
| 21:35.07 | NivFreak | laeg: so I can't give advice ;) |
| 21:35.07 | laeg | ok nps |
| 21:35.11 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: kid coming on the way for Antiarc |
| 21:35.12 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: some time soon last i heard |
| 21:35.21 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: also he's part of a startup that is taking a lot of time |
| 21:35.23 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 21:35.23 | ckknight | afaik |
| 21:35.35 | Gnarfoz | I can see how he's got negative time to spare for wow addons, then ;D |
| 21:35.39 | NivFreak | laeg: I personally shoot for ~300 resil, 12K health, and then stack str and crit gems |
| 21:35.47 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: http://wowwebstats.com/yxvxfptuv4xe5 / http://wowwebstats.com/cnhww6e25y6aq |
| 21:35.51 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: parsed just fine? |
| 21:35.54 | NivFreak | wtf? |
| 21:36.09 | Gnarfoz | > PARSING E:\temp\pray-za-shadow-061708.txt() IN 1640ms > UPLOADING REPORT > REPORT SUCCESSFULLY HOSTED > http://wowwebstats.com/3wogdpcelg6wy |
| 21:36.20 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: oh, it just updated... |
| 21:36.22 | Gnarfoz | sure you're running the latest client? |
| 21:36.23 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:36.26 | Gnarfoz | 2.4b6 |
| 21:36.28 | NivFreak | since this morning yea |
| 21:36.32 | NivFreak | I tried early this morning |
| 21:36.37 | NivFreak | and I just started WWS again and got an update |
| 21:36.40 | Gnarfoz | hm, I updated 2 weeks ago, last time |
| 21:36.47 | Gnarfoz | maybe it failed to store the actual update or something |
| 21:36.50 | Gnarfoz | java webstart ftl :> |
| 21:37.03 | NivFreak | yep, sure enough |
| 21:37.06 | NivFreak | it parses now |
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| 21:38.29 | NivFreak | well |
| 21:38.33 | NivFreak | that's not as bad as I thought |
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| 21:38.38 | NivFreak | for being a shadow noob again |
| 21:39.57 | NivFreak | holy crap |
| 21:40.06 | NivFreak | recount and WWS don't agree on healing at all |
| 21:40.27 | NivFreak | does recount actually track PoM properly or something? |
| 21:40.48 | Arrowmaster | try comparing raw healing if you can |
| 21:41.02 | NivFreak | way off |
| 21:41.10 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt be supprised if they had issues detecting overhealing |
| 21:41.13 | NivFreak | recount showed me outhealing both healers on zuljin |
| 21:41.19 | NivFreak | as shadow |
| 21:41.21 | NivFreak | I was shocked |
| 21:41.26 | Arrowmaster | for raw? |
| 21:41.28 | NivFreak | WWS shows me well below |
| 21:41.32 | NivFreak | yep |
| 21:42.42 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: Key lock is broken in BT4 :( |
| 21:42.51 | nevcairiel | its not |
| 21:42.53 | nevcairiel | read changelogs |
| 21:42.54 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:44.24 | CIA-43 | 03nevcairiel * r76967 10Bartender4/Options.lua: Bartender4: remove Button Lock option because its defunct |
| 21:44.31 | nevcairiel | there, no confusion anymore |
| 21:45.45 | NivFreak | ahhh |
| 21:45.46 | NivFreak | so yes |
| 21:45.51 | NivFreak | recount tracks PoM |
| 21:45.59 | NivFreak | and it assigned all of the priest PoMs to me |
| 21:46.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:46.16 | NivFreak | that's a pretty dumb hack |
| 21:46.17 | NivFreak | :) |
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| 21:46.37 | AckisWork | likes PoM |
| 21:46.38 | NeoTron | so it tracks PoM but entirely incorrectly |
| 21:46.47 | AckisWork | PoM is sexy and shiny |
| 21:47.08 | NivFreak | NeoTron: there is no way to track PoM properly |
| 21:47.14 | NeoTron | I am aware |
| 21:47.19 | NeoTron | so it seems silly to try |
| 21:47.42 | NivFreak | it's useful to know how much PoM was used in a fight, but you have to at LEAST do something sane like split it |
| 21:47.48 | NivFreak | it should be tracked, but seperately |
| 21:49.15 | NeoTron | it is tracked on the recipient in WWS |
| 21:49.18 | NeoTron | and that DOES have value |
| 21:49.27 | NeoTron | since it allows to see ho wmuch threat the tank(s) got from it |
| 21:49.37 | NivFreak | sure |
| 21:50.06 | NivFreak | man |
| 21:50.10 | NivFreak | it's also off by 40K on the shaman |
| 21:50.11 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 21:50.24 | NivFreak | ahhh |
| 21:50.26 | NivFreak | his totem |
| 21:50.33 | NivFreak | healing stream |
| 21:50.39 | Zhinjio | Buh |
| 21:50.41 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:50.43 | Arrowmaster | thats easy |
| 21:51.00 | NivFreak | well, I'm pretty much not trusting recount ever again |
| 21:51.01 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:51.01 | Arrowmaster | since you get an event when he summons a totem and its guid from it |
| 21:52.43 | NivFreak | ~seen elsia |
| 21:52.45 | purl | elsia <i=elsiarow@p57A2731D.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 37d 1h 49m 54s ago, saying: 'heya'. |
| 21:53.01 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 21:54.27 | AckisWork | Why can't you track PoM btw? |
| 21:54.41 | NivFreak | it shows a gain without a cast iirc |
| 21:54.43 | AckisWork | I've never looked at combat logs, just bitched to Saroz that it doesn't show up on srf |
| 21:54.47 | NivFreak | blizzard is stupid |
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| 21:55.40 | NivFreak | I'm still irritated that they didn't fix this with the 2.4 combat log |
| 21:56.11 | NivFreak | it's the same issue with earthshield and lifebloom |
| 21:56.29 | NeoTron | the issue is |
| 21:56.34 | NeoTron | that the CASTER is the recipient |
| 21:56.46 | NeoTron | the one who applied it is not known at that point |
| 21:56.56 | NeoTron | it's a deeper "issue" than the combat log - it's intentional behavior |
| 21:57.19 | NivFreak | that makes no sense |
| 21:57.21 | NivFreak | why |
| 21:57.32 | Arrowmaster | because you really are healing yourself |
| 21:57.39 | Arrowmaster | not the priest healing you |
| 21:57.58 | NivFreak | it's not your spent resource for the heal |
| 21:58.01 | NeoTron | because they also give you, recipient, trheat |
| 21:58.08 | NeoTron | so to do that you're the caster |
| 21:58.15 | NivFreak | NeoTron: is that true for lifebloom? |
| 21:58.19 | NivFreak | the bloom |
| 21:58.24 | Kalroth | YEs |
| 21:58.40 | Arrowmaster | although some are still arguing it |
| 21:58.48 | NivFreak | so clearly have a druid stack 3x lifebloom and swiftmend on engage |
| 21:59.00 | NivFreak | PoM very clearly produces threat |
| 21:59.12 | NivFreak | earthshield seems to, but I haven't tested it extensively |
| 21:59.24 | NivFreak | never bother trying lifebloom since it has a risk factor |
| 21:59.25 | Kalroth | Earthshield definitely adds threat |
| 21:59.31 | NivFreak | bothered |
| 21:59.41 | AckisWork | I'm proud to say I've wiped us with a pre-PoM before :D |
| 21:59.41 | NeoTron | swiftment doesn't cause threat though |
| 21:59.42 | Arrowmaster | does swiftmending lifebloom cause swiftmend heal and the lifebloom removal heal? |
| 21:59.56 | NivFreak | ah |
| 21:59.58 | NeoTron | I guess perhaps it does but that I can't answer |
| 22:00.01 | nevcairiel | you cannot swiftmend lifebloomn |
| 22:00.08 | sdouble | ^ |
| 22:00.08 | NivFreak | I fail at resto druid 101 |
| 22:00.16 | nevcairiel | also, the lifebloom bloom has a reduced threat |
| 22:00.18 | nevcairiel | its not 100% |
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| 22:00.50 | sdouble | yeah, the person receiving the "bloom" heals themselves for that final amount |
| 22:00.50 | Kalroth | Are you sure about that? |
| 22:01.01 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 22:01.06 | nevcairiel | you cannot track the final bloom |
| 22:01.08 | nevcairiel | like PoM |
| 22:01.12 | Kalroth | even if the bloom heals for 100%? |
| 22:01.13 | nevcairiel | it looks like the person heals himself |
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| 22:01.32 | Kalroth | yup, the combat log says "Tank skillblooms himself." |
| 22:01.34 | NivFreak | wtb built in threat api |
| 22:01.39 | NivFreak | and fixed combat log |
| 22:01.43 | AckisWork | lol |
| 22:01.50 | nevcairiel | it adds threat, but not the threat value is not the expected 0.5*healing |
| 22:01.54 | nevcairiel | its lower |
| 22:01.56 | nevcairiel | somehow |
| 22:02.04 | nevcairiel | dont have accurate numbers |
| 22:02.04 | AckisWork | 52 year old woman suing victoria's secret for getting hurt by a thong (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0617081secrets1.html possibly nsfw pic) |
| 22:02.11 | Kalroth | mmm, when healing yourself it should be 1.0*healing |
| 22:02.30 | NeoTron | 0.5 |
| 22:02.39 | Arrowmaster | all heals are 0.5*healing except for pally heals which are 0.25*healing |
| 22:02.47 | Kalroth | I'm pretty sure that healing yourself adds more threat than healing others |
| 22:02.57 | nevcairiel | it doesnt |
| 22:03.23 | Kalroth | It used to be like that, no? |
| 22:03.29 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: how come pallys pull aggro really easy with their judgement active? even with the +60%, 0.25 would be too low, i doubt that |
| 22:03.53 | Arrowmaster | JoL? |
| 22:04.06 | Arrowmaster | or do you mean RF |
| 22:04.11 | nevcairiel | yeah that |
| 22:04.13 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 22:04.15 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 22:04.16 | nevcairiel | i dont play a pally =P |
| 22:04.29 | NeoTron | most have imp RF |
| 22:04.33 | NeoTron | or they wouldn't be using it |
| 22:04.38 | Arrowmaster | which makes it +90% |
| 22:04.41 | nevcairiel | where does that idea of reduced pally healing threat come from anyway? |
| 22:04.41 | VonhintenHOME` | I play a pally, not sure I understand the question though |
| 22:05.00 | breser | To prevent them from tanking with heals. |
| 22:05.05 | NeoTron | with RF pally threat is almost identical to normal healers |
| 22:05.28 | Arrowmaster | but pallys do gain extra threat from getting mana back when somebody heals them right |
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| 22:05.31 | NeoTron | but slightly below |
| 22:05.36 | NeoTron | yes |
| 22:05.37 | NeoTron | it's a gain |
| 22:05.50 | nevcairiel | how come for example on nightbane, we could easily use a pally to tank the bolts in the air phase, while other healers healed the same amount or even more, and didnt get it? |
| 22:05.58 | breser | Well I should say to prevent pallies from being absurdly capable tanks at the same time as being good healers. |
| 22:06.01 | nevcairiel | with RF active |
| 22:06.03 | nevcairiel | obivously |
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| 22:06.07 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: typically because you had the pally hear more |
| 22:06.11 | NeoTron | heal more |
| 22:06.21 | NeoTron | they do not generate more threat than normal healers with RF |
| 22:06.34 | NeoTron | what we used to do is to have the pally alone heal locks life tapping |
| 22:06.36 | nevcairiel | i guess they have no talent to reduce healing threat? |
| 22:06.41 | sdouble | nope |
| 22:06.48 | nevcairiel | all other healers reduce it by 30% or so |
| 22:06.50 | nevcairiel | or 20 |
| 22:06.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:07.00 | NeoTron | I guess that does mean they gen more threat |
| 22:07.13 | Arrowmaster | and a pally with imp RF would then be doing more threat per heal than other healers |
| 22:07.14 | NeoTron | never the less, it wasn't hard to pull off a pally |
| 22:07.21 | NeoTron | same issue on morogrim with holy tanking strat |
| 22:07.41 | NeoTron | might also be a salvation issue |
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| 22:07.58 | sdouble | a full prot pally can still get enough talents into holy to prevent spell knockback |
| 22:08.25 | CIA-43 | 03nevcairiel * r76968 10HotCandy/HotCandy.lua: HotCandy: second attempt at swiftmend detection, now more sane and less cpu intensive too! |
| 22:08.27 | Hjalte | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah but that leaves with with a 10/41/10 spec |
| 22:08.37 | sdouble | So I assume the point of reduced healing threat is because they could stand there and heal themselves with RF for tremendous aggro |
| 22:08.49 | Arrowmaster | since a full prot pally is going to want the 5% parry from ret |
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| 22:12.26 | NeoTron | it's higly unadvisable to do so though |
| 22:12.38 | NeoTron | since casting a spell prevents you from dodging/parrying (afaik) |
| 22:12.42 | NeoTron | and perhaps even block? |
| 22:13.08 | sdouble | not sure, I respecced holy a long time ago |
| 22:13.26 | bjr | can someone help me with an addon, ive put what i have and what i want here http://ace.pastey.net/89668 |
| 22:13.35 | bjr | macro* |
| 22:16.40 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: not anymore |
| 22:16.58 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:17.02 | Gnarfoz | no, instants not anymore |
| 22:17.05 | Gnarfoz | normal casts, dunno |
| 22:17.10 | VonhintenHOME` | casting a spell prevents you from blocking and parrying, but not dodge, afiak |
| 22:17.21 | VonhintenHOME` | afaik |
| 22:17.31 | Gnarfoz | instant casts were fixed in that regard, a time ago |
| 22:18.03 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I remember being crushed several times when casting Holy Shield and Consecrate |
| 22:22.44 | Tem|afk | Is Recount2 stable at all? |
| 22:22.54 | Tem|afk | or should I stick with Recount for now? |
| 22:23.06 | bjr | how do i tell the game to use an item, with script? |
| 22:23.14 | NeoTron | I'd say neither are stable and solid :P |
| 22:23.15 | Tem|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.23 | Tem|afk | NeoTron, har |
| 22:23.34 | NeoTron | but I don't think recount 2 is even close to be |
| 22:23.35 | Tem|afk | also, /use item:itemid |
| 22:23.43 | Tem|afk | NeoTron, thanks |
| 22:23.51 | profalbert | bjr: it's not possible in a script (the function is protected) |
| 22:23.53 | bjr | Tem|afk: ive got /run for, if, then, ... i wnat it to end with using an item |
| 22:24.01 | Tem|afk | lawl |
| 22:24.04 | Tem|afk | RTFM imo |
| 22:24.53 | bjr | profalbert: its a macro with a script line in it, does that make a difference? |
| 22:25.16 | profalbert | bjr: you cannot use the item in the script line |
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| 22:25.35 | profalbert | bjr: you can only do something like /use [contition] item |
| 22:25.53 | profalbert | complex conditions are not possible in there, that's intended |
| 22:26.04 | bjr | can i tell it to stop the macro if its not true, or carry on if it is tru, and onthe 2nd line put /use? |
| 22:27.44 | bjr | profalbert: http://ace.pastey.net/89669 |
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| 22:28.12 | profalbert | bjr: i don't think that's possible either |
| 22:28.47 | Hjalte | Can anyone explain to me the difference between WOT and the inbuilt Firefox bad website blocker? |
| 22:29.11 | thul | http://youtube.com/watch?v=IdKDydKxfRg |
| 22:29.36 | Arrowmaster | WOT? |
| 22:30.02 | Hjalte | http://www.mywot.com/ |
| 22:30.58 | Arrowmaster | i think firefox uses googles data |
| 22:31.19 | bjr | profalbert: if there a command to prematurely end a script? |
| 22:31.24 | bjr | is* |
| 22:31.42 | profalbert | bjr: it would just end the script and continue executing the macro |
| 22:33.01 | Gnarfoz | what you want is not possible, by any means other than using AutoMacro, which will earn you a swift ban ;p |
| 22:33.37 | bjr | so i cant make it use an item, if a debuffhas recause desired numebr of stacks? |
| 22:33.51 | bjr | reached* |
| 22:34.31 | Gagorian | no |
| 22:36.09 | bjr | are there any macro conditions to check for debuff stack size? |
| 22:36.16 | Gagorian | no |
| 22:36.27 | Gagorian | Is it that hard to activate yourself? |
| 22:37.10 | bjr | im forgetful =/ |
| 22:37.21 | nevcairiel | you cannot do checks like that in a macro |
| 22:37.58 | nevcairiel | you cannot do any smart checks :p |
| 22:37.58 | bjr | i knew addons couldnt do it, but i thought cause this was in a macro i night eb able to |
| 22:37.58 | NivFreak | not since 2.0 :) |
| 22:38.11 | pastamancer | if you can mix items and spells in a /castsequence, you could have it cast the debuff x times and then use your item |
| 22:38.22 | NivFreak | actually, addons can do it, just not in combat ;) |
| 22:38.22 | nevcairiel | you can mix those |
| 22:38.34 | NivFreak | but you can make a nice visual indicator |
| 22:39.06 | bjr | oo a reminder of when debuff stack is up, and trinkets off cd, woudl be nice |
| 22:39.30 | nevcairiel | yeah reminders are easy to do |
| 22:39.41 | nevcairiel | just automated logic to do stuff is not :P |
| 22:40.06 | profalbert | bjr: CombatAlarm can do it |
| 22:40.49 | sdouble | you can cover your screen with a red box and black text that says "Press 5" but you can't make it do it for you |
| 22:41.24 | bjr | cool, so unitdebuff ot check stack, combatalarm to tell me when, what do i use to check item is off CD? |
| 22:41.35 | profalbert | bjr: you can create an alarm for SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE with amount 5 |
| 22:41.49 | profalbert | and enter the debuff-name of course |
| 22:42.18 | Gagorian | Well if you want something specific and efficient it's easiest to do yourself |
| 22:42.21 | NivFreak | some day I want to make my spriest DDR addon |
| 22:42.24 | NivFreak | just for fun |
| 22:42.48 | NivFreak | where you basically just scroll by the key to press at the right time |
| 22:42.50 | NivFreak | like DDR |
| 22:42.59 | NivFreak | it would be useless but funny |
| 22:43.11 | profalbert | bjr: you don't have to check anything of that yourself, combatalarm does check it on every "SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE"-event |
| 22:44.05 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: lol |
| 22:44.20 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 22:44.21 | NivFreak | so wait |
| 22:44.34 | NivFreak | recount shows some PoM on this other priest, that must be the number of ticks that actually healed htem |
| 22:44.41 | bjr | NivFreak: im spreists also :) |
| 22:45.08 | profalbert | bjr: you don't say ;) |
| 22:45.44 | bjr | while im here, more specific question about scrolling combat text |
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| 22:46.16 | bjr | is it possible to make it tell me not just what spell and how much damage, but what tick number it was? |
| 22:46.37 | NivFreak | dot uptime issues? |
| 22:46.53 | bjr | i want ot break my channeled spell between the 2nd and 3rd tick |
| 22:47.01 | NivFreak | ah |
| 22:47.19 | NivFreak | I wouldn't rely on a SCT for that honestly |
| 22:47.22 | CIA-43 | 03Insomniax * r76969 10RepTracker/ (Core.lua RepTracker.toc): |
| 22:47.22 | CIA-43 | RepTracker: |
| 22:47.22 | CIA-43 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.33 | Gagorian | I'm not sure any SCT type addon does that out of the box |
| 22:47.52 | profalbert | I don't think so |
| 22:48.28 | bjr | with all the damage up ont he screen, im ner sure which tick number its at |
| 22:48.37 | Gagorian | Again easiest to make your own |
| 22:48.48 | bjr | itd do-able tho? |
| 22:48.53 | Gagorian | of course |
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| 22:49.09 | NivFreak | you might be able to filter out your mind flays to a seperate scroll area with MSBT? not sure |
| 22:49.43 | profalbert | it is with Parrot |
| 22:49.46 | bjr | NivFreak: msbt? |
| 22:50.06 | Gnarfoz | mhhh |
| 22:50.09 | NivFreak | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3395/ |
| 22:50.29 | Gnarfoz | who maintains the packagemancer script for wowace? |
| 22:50.49 | nevcairiel | pastamancer |
| 22:50.57 | bjr | sct only lets me pull out all damage spells, or melee, etc |
| 22:51.09 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: why? |
| 22:51.11 | Gnarfoz | in no-ext mode, it kills off even those libs that aren't being referenced as externals, it kills off all libs :\ |
| 22:51.30 | nevcairiel | example addon? |
| 22:51.43 | Gnarfoz | Procodile (e.g., there are others) uses LibFuBarPlugin-3.0-Mod, to get around having to use Rock |
| 22:51.45 | profalbert | MSBT/Parrot are much more powerful than SCT |
| 22:52.10 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: sec let me check this out |
| 22:52.16 | NivFreak | MSBT == winner |
| 22:52.23 | NivFreak | ckknight hates parrot I think! :) |
| 22:52.24 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: a no-ext build will simply not include any externals, so unless he hard-copied the file in, it will not be there |
| 22:52.40 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hm, maybe it's in branches and I overlooked that |
| 22:52.41 | ckknight | NivFreak: no, I'm just quite busy |
| 22:52.47 | NivFreak | I'm just giving you shit |
| 22:52.59 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i dont see any reference to LFBP in Procodile at all |
| 22:53.00 | ckknight | NivFreak: okay then |
| 22:53.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: inside ProcodileFu.lua |
| 22:53.20 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: will you ever merge in your changes to LibFuBarPlugin? |
| 22:53.26 | bjr | profalbert: either of those count dot/channel ticks? if not can you point me in the right direction? |
| 22:53.26 | NivFreak | pitbull and dogtags work, that's all I care about atm |
| 22:53.35 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: yes its only available in branches, and you cant reference it in embeds.xml you should do it in the toc directly |
| 22:53.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yeah, but thats not important. its not mentioned in the .toc, or in the embeds.xml |
| 22:53.58 | nevcairiel | oh wait, its in embeds.xml |
| 22:54.02 | Gnarfoz | so that means... either hardcopy it in or leave it broken? |
| 22:54.05 | Arrowmaster | its not hard embeded though |
| 22:54.07 | nevcairiel | but again, the script removes all externals |
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| 22:54.12 | nevcairiel | libraries from branches just doesnt work |
| 22:54.15 | nevcairiel | hard-copy the file :P |
| 22:54.17 | Arrowmaster | the script removes all externals on wowace |
| 22:54.19 | profalbert | bjr: they can't. but you can redirect all damage done by a specific spell (Mind Flay) to a seperate scroll-area |
| 22:54.45 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: i dont know, ive actually been thinking about just releasing it as LibFuBarPlugin-3.1 |
| 22:54.46 | profalbert | and put that scroll-area away from the rest of the spam |
| 22:54.49 | Gnarfoz | who made the LibStub version of LFBP? |
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| 22:54.58 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 22:55.09 | Gnarfoz | "ah, it's you." (to quote from AYBABTU, incidentally) |
| 22:55.26 | nevcairiel | all externals that are hosted on the wowace svn will be removed, off-site externals stay in no-ext builds |
| 22:55.30 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that was going to be my next question ^^ (what's keeping you from just releasing a libstub version) |
| 22:55.40 | Arrowmaster | ckk never ok'd it |
| 22:55.48 | Gnarfoz | meh :\ |
| 22:55.48 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: go talk to ckknight maybe he accepts a patch and it can be in the 3.0 version |
| 22:55.49 | bjr | profalbert: is it possible to chnage the addon so it displays somehting like "mind flay (500) (1)" |
| 22:55.52 | Stanzilla | ckknight: do it :P |
| 22:55.59 | profalbert | bjr: no |
| 22:56.08 | Arrowmaster | hes known i made it, hes just busy |
| 22:56.11 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: um, go hog wild. |
| 22:56.14 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 22:56.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:56.28 | Gnarfoz | heh, so much for that |
| 22:56.42 | nevcairiel | make it work with the ace2 fubar too! |
| 22:56.52 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how much stuff will break when i merge it |
| 22:57.02 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: the hope is nothing |
| 22:57.08 | Arrowmaster | well duh |
| 22:57.10 | nevcairiel | I need to get a replacement for my fubar |
| 22:57.22 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: statblocks, duh! xD |
| 22:57.32 | nevcairiel | statblocks smell |
| 22:57.43 | Arrowmaster | we should just remove rock from fubar and replace it with ace3, it wasnt that hard for LFBP |
| 22:57.53 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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| 22:58.12 | Stanzilla | /vote |
| 22:58.31 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah now i remember the other reason i didnt merge it yet, i never finished the default config options for AceConfig-3.0 |
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| 22:58.51 | Funkeh` | LFBP is pointles |
| 22:59.04 | Funkeh` | It is after all, for fubar, which uses rock |
| 22:59.15 | Funkeh` | just make a damn minimap lib if you're so obsessed |
| 22:59.15 | Arrowmaster | that can easyly be fixed |
| 22:59.45 | ckknight | AceConfig pisses me off too hard :-( |
| 23:00.16 | Funkeh` | thats why i use blizz for my addons, simple slash works fine |
| 23:00.41 | Funkeh` | no need for minimap/fubar crap |
| 23:00.57 | Gnarfoz | do what you will, this topic has been too political for me from the start, heh. I just checked out LFBP-Mod from branches. ;) |
| 23:01.02 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 23:01.12 | ckknight | Cartographer3 is practically standalone, on purpose |
| 23:01.19 | ckknight | only real thing I use is AceDB |
| 23:01.26 | digmouse | ckknight: is it able to add a updater interval option to PitBull raid frames so it wont cause the great lag in raid? |
| 23:01.29 | ckknight | but I'll likely remove that dependency later |
| 23:01.30 | Funkeh` | simple, addons stop using lbfp, it becomes less of a problem |
| 23:01.39 | ckknight | digmouse: I did that like yesterday |
| 23:01.49 | digmouse | oh, I'll see the updates |
| 23:01.57 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: how do they integrate into fubar, then? does fubar provide that interface itself, too? |
| 23:02.03 | Funkeh` | you don't? |
| 23:02.13 | Funkeh` | why do you need to integrate into fubar? thats silly |
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| 23:02.30 | Funkeh` | if someone wants it they can easily make a separate fubar addon |
| 23:02.37 | VonhintenHOME` | What addon is it that keeps fucking up and throwing {CLINK:quest:blah} crap in channels |
| 23:02.45 | Funkeh` | forcing it is, and always will be silly |
| 23:02.53 | Funkeh` | seeing ace3 addons with lbfp makes me cr |
| 23:02.56 | Funkeh` | cry* |
| 23:03.00 | profalbert | VonhintenHOME`: any addon that supports channellinks |
| 23:03.09 | nevcairiel | those channel links are stupid |
| 23:03.18 | Arrowmaster | seeing any addon using LFBP just for config makes me cry |
| 23:03.20 | nevcairiel | make it look crappy for everyone that doesnt use your precious addon |
| 23:03.21 | nevcairiel | sure :P |
| 23:03.22 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: "you don't" is a fucking useless answer :p |
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| 23:03.32 | Funkeh` | no it's not? |
| 23:03.39 | Funkeh` | why the fuck would you force a fubar plugin |
| 23:03.41 | Gnarfoz | I don't want copies of 30 addons I use that just have "_Fubar" appended to their name |
| 23:04.01 | Funkeh` | because you're too lazy to type /addonname to open a config? |
| 23:04.04 | Funkeh` | that's your fault |
| 23:04.07 | nevcairiel | Thats why i want a alteratnive to FuBar, for some quick configuration access and some simple data display |
| 23:04.18 | Arrowmaster | what about if your making a *ghasp* addon thats ment to display data on FuBar |
| 23:04.49 | nevcairiel | i like my clock and ma PerformanceFu |
| 23:04.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah, just because all you use fubar for is opening config dialogs... erm yeah I don't have to spell it out for you, do I |
| 23:04.53 | nevcairiel | and my money display |
| 23:05.02 | nevcairiel | everything else is just config buttons on my fubar |
| 23:05.07 | Funkeh` | putting lfbp into your addon: 1. places bias on fubar, adds uneeded bloat to users who don't want it |
| 23:05.27 | Arrowmaster | i remove most config buttons from my fubar |
| 23:05.31 | bjr | there are alternatives to fubar? |
| 23:05.42 | nevcairiel | i remove most too, but some i keep for quick access |
| 23:05.46 | nevcairiel | oRA to set maintanks |
| 23:05.49 | Gnarfoz | bjr: titan panel, rofl |
| 23:05.51 | nevcairiel | BigWigs to reset modules |
| 23:06.16 | nevcairiel | ClosetGnome to switch my gear =P |
| 23:06.25 | Gnarfoz | OptionalDependencies are "load before *this addon*, if it's there", right? |
| 23:06.26 | Funkeh` | I have 0 fubar plugins shown |
| 23:06.28 | nevcairiel | thats about it, i think |
| 23:06.35 | Funkeh` | and statblocks for my closetgnome and bigwigs |
| 23:06.38 | VonhintenHOME` | LocationFu, DurabilityFu |
| 23:06.49 | VonhintenHOME` | BagFu |
| 23:07.05 | Stanzilla | GroupFu |
| 23:07.07 | Stanzilla | is teh win |
| 23:07.09 | VonhintenHOME` | VolumeFu |
| 23:07.12 | nevcairiel | groupfu is silly |
| 23:07.13 | Funkeh` | .... |
| 23:07.14 | Gnarfoz | I don't have anything on mine that I don't want, and the only "open config" ones are for addons I just started using to quickly adjust their settings |
| 23:07.16 | Funkeh` | volumefu |
| 23:07.19 | Funkeh` | just get out |
| 23:07.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: why? |
| 23:07.23 | Funkeh` | close the door on your way out |
| 23:07.26 | bjr | i got abut 14 Fu things, i dont like any minimap buttons |
| 23:07.31 | nevcairiel | I use volumefu too |
| 23:07.32 | VonhintenHOME` | What's wrong with volumefu? |
| 23:07.40 | nevcairiel | i like 2 clicks to adjust my volume in fight |
| 23:07.41 | Funkeh` | whats wrong with pressing escape? |
| 23:07.45 | nevcairiel | if i notice its too loud again |
| 23:08.00 | VonhintenHOME` | What's wrong with pressing escape? the fact that it cancels your target, takes you out of combat |
| 23:08.07 | VonhintenHOME` | all to just change the volume? no thanks |
| 23:08.11 | nevcairiel | opening the configuration menus in fight is not acceptable |
| 23:08.12 | profalbert | Funkeh`: pressing escape cancels the cast |
| 23:08.28 | Dashkal | reaches his hand a foot forward to adjust the volume dial next to the monitor |
| 23:08.31 | Funkeh` | why would you be changing volume in combat? it would distrat you as it is |
| 23:08.42 | VonhintenHOME` | if I can't hear someone on vent |
| 23:08.47 | VonhintenHOME` | or if my phone rings |
| 23:08.52 | nevcairiel | for example :P |
| 23:09.01 | Funkeh` | i've been raiding for 3 years and never changed the volume |
| 23:09.02 | pastamancer | you don't have volume keys on your keyboard? :p |
| 23:09.05 | Gnarfoz | it's amazing how far away from reality some people are, or how narrow-minded ^^ |
| 23:09.09 | nevcairiel | i change my volume all the time, mostly because i changed it in windows or on my amplifier |
| 23:09.12 | nevcairiel | cant hear people talk |
| 23:09.14 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 23:09.16 | Dashkal | Erm, guess that would be bad for rebalancing for vent. I'm so used to having vent on the second computer... |
| 23:09.24 | Funkeh` | use vent equlizer thingie |
| 23:09.37 | VonhintenHOME` | vent equalizer doesn't work for some people |
| 23:09.48 | Arrowmaster | it only works if your using direct sound |
| 23:09.56 | Arrowmaster | which i cant |
| 23:09.59 | NivFreak | no mac support =( |
| 23:09.59 | Gnarfoz | I don't even USE vent. |
| 23:10.00 | NivFreak | so sad |
| 23:10.16 | nevcairiel | I have to leave the game to change vent/TS settings |
| 23:10.17 | Gnarfoz | TS2 doesn't have an 'equalizer thingie' ;> |
| 23:10.19 | Dashkal | wishes the Blizzard "vent" wasn't so completely useless... |
| 23:10.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I use direct sound, I have all the compressor settings as they should, and still some people come in too low |
| 23:10.20 | nevcairiel | not an option during fight :P |
| 23:10.42 | Funkeh` | the good thing about blizz VOIP is it reduces your sound automatically |
| 23:10.45 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: wtf do you use? :) |
| 23:10.59 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, too bad the volume is still way too low on blizz's voip |
| 23:11.02 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: TS? as I said? |
| 23:11.12 | bjr | i ahve a widescreen, wow windowed in a square ratio, and vent on the side |
| 23:11.16 | Funkeh` | say what? I've had mac users use vent |
| 23:11.24 | Arrowmaster | the bad thing about blizz VOIP is that if you have it enabled it will destroy your vent sound quality |
| 23:11.33 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: missed that |
| 23:11.34 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if I can book Funkeh` to convince my guild to use Vent which has this awesome restrictive licensing going for it |
| 23:11.46 | Gnarfoz | where you can't host yourself if it's for more than 8 people ;D |
| 23:11.50 | Funkeh` | i wouldn't know about licencing |
| 23:11.50 | VonhintenHOME` | 3d game in a window? did they finally fix the performance issue with not being full screen exclusive? |
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| 23:11.57 | NivFreak | vent licensing is lame |
| 23:12.01 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: they didn't |
| 23:12.16 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, screw that |
| 23:12.17 | Gnarfoz | windowed+maximized still eats CPU like no tomorrow |
| 23:12.18 | Funkeh` | ding hunter 22 ! |
| 23:12.21 | Gnarfoz | gz |
| 23:12.57 | bjr | i couldnt download vent server, run it off ym box for a 25man raid then? |
| 23:13.07 | Gnarfoz | they don't offer it for download, no |
| 23:13.25 | Gnarfoz | s/for/for free/ |
| 23:13.30 | VonhintenHOME` | You'd have to use TS |
| 23:13.39 | nevcairiel | they changed the license some time ago so you can only host "test" servers with up to 8 people or something |
| 23:13.44 | CIA-43 | 03orionshock * r76970 10GuildCraft/ (DBO.lua core.lua): GuildCraft: Remove some debug code; add who the db was locked by in printed message |
| 23:13.54 | nevcairiel | so you have to rent servers from licensed hosting companys |
| 23:13.56 | nevcairiel | its teh suck |
| 23:13.58 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: mac users can use vent, but we can't use the equalizer |
| 23:14.00 | Gnarfoz | teamspeak has it kind of reversed: if you're hosting a server with over 1000 users, you should use their licensing programme - this makes more sense then what ventrilo does ^^ |
| 23:14.02 | nevcairiel | sadly, alot of people still use vent |
| 23:14.11 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, ah |
| 23:14.12 | ckknight | I have a conundrum |
| 23:14.20 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de conundrum |
| 23:14.27 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 23:14.29 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 23:14.34 | nevcairiel | that doesnt really help now o.O |
| 23:14.39 | ckknight | Ich haben eine Vexierfrage? |
| 23:14.39 | VonhintenHOME` | neither of the fucking things are extensible... someone needs to write an open source ts/vent |
| 23:14.42 | Arrowmaster | when only comparing vent and ts though for a long time vent was way way better than ts |
| 23:14.44 | bjr | ooh, i always wondered why my gm kept complaining about paying for the vent, i thought they just didnt know how to host it themselves |
| 23:14.50 | Arrowmaster | VonhintenHOME`: they ahve |
| 23:14.52 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: there is |
| 23:14.53 | Arrowmaster | mumble |
| 23:14.56 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 23:15.02 | ckknight | I want Cartographer3 to have an intuitive, clean config interface, and I'm not sure the best way to go about it |
| 23:15.05 | Gnarfoz | I never got around to testing it |
| 23:15.09 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm |
| 23:15.19 | Funkeh` | ckknight, blizzard dude |
| 23:15.20 | ckknight | ich habe*, took German too long ago |
| 23:15.24 | ckknight | so I'm fishing for ideas |
| 23:15.36 | Funkeh` | it's a standard config, people are used to it and like it |
| 23:15.42 | ckknight | I don't like it |
| 23:15.50 | Funkeh` | yeah well |
| 23:15.54 | ckknight | also, it's not _just_ config |
| 23:15.56 | Funkeh` | look at rock config |
| 23:16.01 | ckknight | there's other things as well |
| 23:16.02 | Funkeh` | you liked it, everyone else hated it |
| 23:16.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 23:16.07 | ckknight | that you'd want to access immediately |
| 23:16.22 | ckknight | such as a "go to" menu and the like |
| 23:16.45 | Funkeh` | if you want to amke a neutral satisfying config, use blizz :P |
| 23:16.49 | ckknight | hrm, I might have two different places |
| 23:16.50 | Funkeh` | everything else is your risk |
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| 23:17.04 | ckknight | one which'd be in Blizz, one which would be immediate things near the map itself |
| 23:17.08 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't care what the config looks like, as long as I don't have to use fucking popup menu's |
| 23:17.08 | Gnarfoz | actually, I don't know how you'd do Parrot's config in Blizzard config dialogs (nevermind their fixed size - if you use BBO for resizability, the contents just float around like mad, looking ugly, making no sense) |
| 23:17.09 | ckknight | perhaps. |
| 23:17.13 | Dashkal | wtb out of the box blizz config that resizes and doesn't block the rest of the UI... |
| 23:17.39 | Funkeh` | i don't mind about the size |
| 23:17.45 | Funkeh` | but the locking in place is taedious |
| 23:17.46 | NivFreak | I hate the blizzard config menu |
| 23:17.50 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: what'd be a good way to have a go to menu, then? |
| 23:17.52 | Funkeh` | especially when it comes to moving frames |
| 23:17.59 | NivFreak | I also hate anyone who uses expanding buttons on the right side of columns :) |
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| 23:18.07 | NivFreak | *cough* |
| 23:18.11 | VonhintenHOME` | What do you mean? |
| 23:18.31 | NivFreak | they should be on the left! |
| 23:18.34 | Arrowmaster | doesnt the AH do it like that? |
| 23:18.38 | NivFreak | + Options |
| 23:18.39 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: I want the ability to have some kind of menu to choose where to zoom the map to, how do I do that without popup menus? |
| 23:18.41 | NivFreak | not |
| 23:18.43 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:18.43 | NivFreak | Options + |
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| 23:19.05 | ckknight | NivFreak: I agree |
| 23:19.22 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm not saying popup menu's don't have their place, but the whole config system shouldn't be in menu's |
| 23:19.41 | VonhintenHOME` | that shit drives me crazy |
| 23:20.00 | Dashkal | agreed, zomgbuffs much? |
| 23:20.09 | VonhintenHOME` | like, a popup menu item that pops out an input box, that's fucking stupid :) |
| 23:20.23 | Dashkal | Love the mod, but it's such an incredible PITA to configure... |
| 23:20.47 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: I hate those too |
| 23:20.48 | ckknight | truth. |
| 23:21.01 | Funkeh` | haha can't auto update with firefox |
| 23:21.04 | Funkeh` | totally dea |
| 23:21.07 | Funkeh` | dead* |
| 23:21.15 | VonhintenHOME` | ck, so you mean you right click on the map and it gives you zoom options? |
| 23:21.39 | nevcairiel | the default map has already a zoom drop-down |
| 23:21.42 | nevcairiel | why not steal that? =P |
| 23:22.09 | Funkeh` | the default map has an annoying tendancy of locking the zoom in battlegrounds :/ |
| 23:22.20 | VonhintenHOME` | No way, I'm thinking circular menu |
| 23:22.35 | VonhintenHOME` | Not enough use of circular menu's in software |
| 23:23.01 | NeoTron | NivFreak: mainly when you use AceConfig 3 it how it does it by default. to make it "properly" you actually need to make multiple separate config thingamabobs |
| 23:23.09 | NeoTron | I did that in MagicTargets |
| 23:23.10 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: that works if everything has an icon, but a go to menu doesn't seem plausible in that case. |
| 23:23.25 | ckknight | I do like circular menus, though |
| 23:23.27 | ckknight | truth be told |
| 23:23.30 | ckknight | ever play Sacrifice? |
| 23:23.37 | ckknight | awesome game, I loved the right-click menu |
| 23:23.38 | VonhintenHOME` | nah |
| 23:24.00 | ckknight | click-right-down-right, bam, spellcast ;-) |
| 23:24.00 | VonhintenHOME` | circular menu's are way more accurate for fast mouse users |
| 23:24.02 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 23:24.03 | Zhinjio | wow, Sacrifice. That brings me back. |
| 23:24.12 | ckknight | Zhinjio: hehe |
| 23:24.24 | ckknight | Zhinjio: so tell me, who is your favorite god? |
| 23:24.27 | Zhinjio | there aren't too many games I haven't played though, so... |
| 23:24.29 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 23:24.29 | Dashkal | I think I have that cd floating around somewhere... |
| 23:24.47 | ckknight | I'm torn between James and Pyro ;-) |
| 23:25.00 | Zhinjio | I'm hard pressed to remember it very well. |
| 23:25.24 | Zhinjio | I remember a little floating guy that helped you out, and the interface, and exploring the worlds ... graphics were awesome for the time. |
| 23:25.33 | Zhinjio | I do remember there being ... like ... maybe 8 gods? |
| 23:25.34 | ckknight | that was Zyzyx |
| 23:25.39 | ckknight | Persephone-James-Stratos-Pyro-Charnel |
| 23:25.41 | ckknight | 5 gods. |
| 23:25.43 | Zhinjio | or yeah.. |
| 23:25.49 | Zhinjio | thats right. |
| 23:26.05 | ckknight | well, if you don't count Ashur |
| 23:26.15 | ckknight | who is more of a malevolent demonic force |
| 23:26.36 | Dashkal | Stratos was bloddy HARD... |
| 23:28.54 | ckknight | sure was. |
| 23:29.31 | Dashkal | I still wish I could have seen his story. I'm told it was interesting, but my skill never got to that point |
| 23:29.56 | ckknight | it was pretty interesting |
| 23:30.05 | ckknight | I'd say his story was most interesting |
| 23:30.11 | ckknight | he was the largest dick of them all |
| 23:30.16 | ckknight | all the gods died but him |
| 23:30.42 | ckknight | compared to the other campaigns where at least one other god survived |
| 23:30.52 | Dashkal | I knew from the first couple that he was playing both sides. |
| 23:30.59 | ckknight | yea, he as |
| 23:31.00 | ckknight | was* |
| 23:31.08 | ckknight | as well as pitting the others against each other |
| 23:31.12 | Dashkal | I got to the second-last of James before I got distracted by another shiny.... must work on that ADD... |
| 23:31.42 | ckknight | so is there a circular menu lib somewhere or would I have to make it myself? |
| 23:32.04 | nevcairiel | circular? DIY :P |
| 23:32.13 | ckknight | I don't think it'd honestly work out for Cart3, though |
| 23:32.54 | Zhinjio | that was always my problems with games. |
| 23:33.10 | Zhinjio | I think I can probably name ... 5? 6? ... less than 10 games I actually played all of the content on. |
| 23:33.15 | bjr | is there a quick way to disable all incomming events in parrot? or do i have to go though each event and siabe them 1 at a time? |
| 23:33.28 | bjr | disable* |
| 23:33.44 | Dashkal | *nods* My problem was I got as far as my skill would carry me, and couldn't improve. So I just walked away. |
| 23:33.47 | profalbert | bjr: you could remove the scroll-area (no idea what that really does though) |
| 23:34.11 | VonhintenHOME` | I can't play console games for very long anymore |
| 23:34.14 | VonhintenHOME` | I think I'm too old |
| 23:34.25 | Zhinjio | super mario galaxy ftw. |
| 23:34.30 | Zhinjio | me and mario go way back. |
| 23:34.49 | Dashkal | ^^^ |
| 23:34.51 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd rather play a short mini-game, or a trivia/puzzle game |
| 23:34.52 | Dashkal | I loved that game |
| 23:35.05 | Zhinjio | thats the great part about the mario games ... |
| 23:35.10 | Zhinjio | very easy to start and stop at a whime |
| 23:35.12 | Zhinjio | whim |
| 23:35.18 | VonhintenHOME` | though, CoD4 kicked my ass pretty good, Halo too |
| 23:35.21 | Zhinjio | episodic or at least, easy to save position and pick up again |
| 23:35.43 | Zhinjio | I would play 1 or 2 mini-levels each night |
| 23:35.51 | ckknight | hrm, is there a brief intro to Blizzard's config menu? I'm not using AceGUI |
| 23:35.51 | Zhinjio | 1/2 hour, 1 hour... whatever. |
| 23:36.01 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, the worst thing a game can do to lose me is not provide frequent enough save points |
| 23:36.09 | Zhinjio | nods. totally |
| 23:36.15 | VonhintenHOME` | if I play for 20 minutes, die and have to restart the level, I'll never play that game again |
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| 23:36.24 | Zhinjio | I understand the need to not have it *everywhere* in the game |
| 23:36.29 | digmouse | ckknight: I didnt see relative changes to PB raid module, u mean the changes to the Auras? or its on somewhere else like branches or curseforge? |
| 23:36.30 | Zhinjio | but it should not detract overmuch |
| 23:36.31 | Nefarion | How do I reset global keybindings in Windows? |
| 23:36.37 | ckknight | digmouse: LibDogTag-3.0 |
| 23:36.57 | digmouse | oh? I almost forgot that :) |
| 23:37.00 | Gnarfoz | btw |
| 23:37.12 | Gnarfoz | there *is* a circular menu "lib" (thingy, rather) |
| 23:37.24 | digmouse | Sphere Lib? |
| 23:37.32 | Nefarion | Anyone know? I can't use my F keys... |
| 23:38.00 | Gnarfoz | I don't remember the exact name, it's from someone in #wowuidev |
| 23:38.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Nefarion, umm.. windows doesn't really have a global keybindings |
| 23:38.03 | Ellipsis | does your keyboard have an F-lock? |
| 23:38.26 | Nefarion | Ellipsis: That's not it. I toggled it. It's just the F2-5. |
| 23:38.29 | Gnarfoz | and it uses secure buttons etc, can also cast spells ^^ |
| 23:38.49 | Nefarion | I had them bound in Winamp and they stopped working. Now Winamp won't let me rebind them, but they're already bound somehow 'cause WoW isn't picking up their presses. |
| 23:39.27 | Stanzilla | do they work if you close winamp? |
| 23:39.49 | Nefarion | No |
| 23:40.29 | profalbert | you use ICQ as ICQ-client? |
| 23:40.34 | Nefarion | No |
| 23:40.43 | VonhintenHOME` | Have you rebooted? |
| 23:40.50 | Nefarion | I'll try that >> |
| 23:41.00 | Nefarion | Takes forever though =( |
| 23:41.16 | VonhintenHOME` | That would have been first on my list :) |
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| 23:41.30 | digmouse | Gnarfoz: sure its sphere lib |
| 23:41.48 | Gnarfoz | no, and not just because a sphere is a 3d object |
| 23:42.22 | digmouse | Gnarfoz: any examples? |
| 23:42.27 | Gnarfoz | what? |
| 23:42.40 | digmouse | that circular thingy |
| 23:42.48 | Gnarfoz | a sphere is a 3d object, why would you call something about circular menus 'sphere' |
| 23:43.04 | Gnarfoz | brb, being attacked ingame ;p |
| 23:43.24 | digmouse | uh, maybe cause again by my poor vocabulary |
| 23:43.36 | digmouse | find some dictionary |
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| 23:46.28 | CIA-43 | RBM_TotemWatch: |
| 23:46.28 | CIA-43 | - Removing CombatLog.txt, should not have been commited to start with. |
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| 23:52.17 | Gnarfoz | durrr they guy who made it is there but seems to ignore me :p |
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