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| 00:01.56 | NeoTron | does anyone have a good example of high DPS warriors (1900+ at least) on brutallus? |
| 00:02.43 | Arrowmaster | hmm anybody know how this new addonloader works? |
| 00:02.45 | NeoTron | example WWS I mean |
| 00:05.09 | Ellipsis | DARKGuy: surprisingly, no - next96 |
| 00:05.34 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis, o_O well damn those toc bumpers ><... I can't though, lol |
| 00:06.01 | DARKGuy | If it were scorpio I swear I would've grabbed a plane ticket to personally punch his face |
| 00:06.18 | Ellipsis | most of his stuff got reverted, plus his account was deleted iirc |
| 00:06.33 | Ellipsis | good riddance too |
| 00:07.25 | Arrowmaster | no it wasnt |
| 00:07.32 | DARKGuy | no, he's still around xx |
| 00:07.39 | Arrowmaster | he doesnt bump tocs anymore |
| 00:07.42 | DARKGuy | x_X... translating some addons to znCN I think |
| 00:08.45 | Arrowmaster | the ones that will come on irc when told to and listen are fine |
| 00:09.15 | DARKGuy | haha yeah, poor guy was being flamed on that day |
| 00:09.49 | Arrowmaster | he was really sorry though after we talked to him |
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| 00:15.50 | NivFreak | hey DKP using folks |
| 00:15.54 | NivFreak | how do your drops get priced |
| 00:16.04 | NivFreak | is there a common database? |
| 00:16.08 | NivFreak | fixed prices? |
| 00:16.10 | profalbert | closed betting |
| 00:16.35 | NivFreak | anyone use a fixed price system? |
| 00:16.43 | VonhintenHOME` | we use an old system I think, 75 for previous tier, 50 for class trinkets, 150 for current tier |
| 00:16.57 | NivFreak | all items are equal? |
| 00:17.06 | NivFreak | on that tier |
| 00:17.16 | VonhintenHOME` | we used to price 2h weapons higher, but not anymore I think |
| 00:17.28 | NivFreak | yea, that seems a bit silly |
| 00:17.39 | NivFreak | we're discussion a DKP system |
| 00:18.03 | NivFreak | and the person who proposed our fixed items prices, tried to weight them for heavy stat items |
| 00:18.26 | NivFreak | so helm/leg/BP/weapons are higher than the rest |
| 00:18.46 | profalbert | NIvFreak: you also have to bring drop-rates into the calculation imho |
| 00:18.52 | VonhintenHOME` | we're talking about modifying our system because currently we drop prices in 25pt increments twice then DE |
| 00:19.04 | NivFreak | so we were talking something like |
| 00:19.05 | VonhintenHOME` | And DEing stuff from Hyjal/BT is silly when someone could use for an offspec |
| 00:19.10 | NivFreak | 40 / 20 / 10 / DE |
| 00:19.19 | NivFreak | 40 / 20 are onspec only |
| 00:19.27 | NivFreak | 10 would be offspec as well |
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| 00:20.30 | NivFreak | he proposed something like that for helm/leg/bp/weapons and then 30/15/8 for everything else |
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| 00:20.33 | NivFreak | more or less |
| 00:20.49 | NivFreak | I haven't worked with a system like this, so I'm curious what it's strengths/weaknesses are |
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| 00:21.02 | NivFreak | but this is why I asked if there was sort of a common dkp price database |
| 00:21.30 | basslingo | Just found an omen bug: When using taunt, if the creature is untauntable, it will say so, but the threat bar still goes to match. |
| 00:21.48 | NivFreak | basslingo: another fun one is to taunt a mob when it isn't targeting someone |
| 00:21.56 | basslingo | lol |
| 00:21.56 | NivFreak | and it won't move, but you'll get aggro |
| 00:22.21 | basslingo | found that DBM leaves icons on things that die in combat too |
| 00:22.34 | NivFreak | things that die in combat? |
| 00:22.35 | basslingo | aka, little red fight where red died and wolf died |
| 00:22.47 | basslingo | person still had teh skull on em |
| 00:22.55 | NivFreak | until the next person gets it, yea |
| 00:23.07 | NeoTron | I find bidding dkp to be significantly easier |
| 00:23.14 | NeoTron | no need to "price" items since they price themselves |
| 00:23.14 | NivFreak | NeoTron: more time consuming |
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| 00:23.22 | NeoTron | quite the opposite |
| 00:23.32 | NeoTron | why would it be time consuming? |
| 00:23.32 | VonhintenHOME` | NivFreak, the system works well for us. The guild likes it because they all get a fair shot at gear. In general though, those that show up more often are rewarded and get gear. |
| 00:23.45 | profalbert | NivFreak: when using closed bidding it's quite fast imho |
| 00:23.47 | NivFreak | NeoTron: do you blind bid? |
| 00:23.48 | VonhintenHOME` | We also reward 10DKP for everyone in a raid when we down a new boss |
| 00:23.55 | NeoTron | whisper a bid |
| 00:23.57 | VonhintenHOME` | as an incentive for people to show up during the tough stuff |
| 00:24.01 | NeoTron | highest wins for 2nd highest +1 |
| 00:24.04 | NivFreak | I don't want closed bidding, so that's why I'm not a fan of floating costs |
| 00:24.13 | profalbert | NeoTron: exactly like that |
| 00:24.26 | NeoTron | take about 1-3 minutes per boss depending on number of items |
| 00:24.28 | NeoTron | if not less |
| 00:24.52 | VonhintenHOME` | we don't use a highest wins approach, we used a stepped system. If you're in the step window of the highest person, you'll roll it out |
| 00:25.09 | NivFreak | our discussion point is currently |
| 00:25.14 | NivFreak | tier 1, highest DKP wins |
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| 00:25.19 | NivFreak | tier 2+3 people roll it out |
| 00:25.37 | NivFreak | once a tier is closed, you can't use it to trump someone |
| 00:25.59 | NivFreak | all bidding/rolling done in publi |
| 00:26.00 | NivFreak | c |
| 00:26.05 | NeoTron | fixed bidding encourages DEing too |
| 00:26.08 | VonhintenHOME` | we use private bids |
| 00:26.37 | NeoTron | http://www.adrguild.com/dkp/viewnews.php our DKP rules, approximately |
| 00:26.42 | NivFreak | so, we're currently using SK with non-suicided bits going to /rolls |
| 00:26.50 | NivFreak | and the major problem we've had is, everyone rolls on everything |
| 00:27.04 | NivFreak | because there's no cost |
| 00:27.25 | VonhintenHOME` | we have the opposite problem, people won't spend 150 dkp on a marginal upgrade |
| 00:27.49 | NeoTron | spending DKP is never an issue |
| 00:27.52 | NeoTron | not spending it is |
| 00:28.27 | NivFreak | I also don't want a system with bad inflation |
| 00:28.32 | NivFreak | not quite zerosum |
| 00:28.56 | NivFreak | but light on bonuses, and points get redistributed |
| 00:29.47 | NeoTron | "overkill" comes to mind |
| 00:30.02 | NeoTron | I have never had a signle complaint about the system I mave |
| 00:30.07 | NeoTron | and it's super easy maintenance |
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| 00:30.18 | NivFreak | it's freaking complex |
| 00:30.19 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:30.21 | NeoTron | no it's not |
| 00:30.23 | Drundia | you can make addon that will auto-price items based on level and slot ;) |
| 00:30.23 | VonhintenHOME` | It was quite a bit different in 40 mans, I have to admit |
| 00:30.27 | VonhintenHOME` | It wasn't as nice back then |
| 00:30.28 | NivFreak | you have 3 tiers of points! |
| 00:30.29 | NeoTron | 5 dkp per kill, 5 for raid start, 5 for end |
| 00:30.36 | NeoTron | on paper only |
| 00:30.56 | NeoTron | AP and SP were added to safeguard against people that were bad enough to mostly be on standby |
| 00:31.04 | NeoTron | turns out that isnt' an issue anymore |
| 00:31.17 | NeoTron | but I keep it now because I have the infrastructure and it's nice for reporting |
| 00:31.31 | Jygga | somebofy playin mass effect on pc here? :) |
| 00:31.38 | Jygga | somebody* |
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| 00:38.36 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: what are your pricing steps at? |
| 00:40.47 | NivFreak | oh wait |
| 00:40.54 | NivFreak | so you go from 150 -> 125 -> 100 -> DE? |
| 00:41.08 | NivFreak | no wonder you guys DE a lot of shit |
| 00:41.09 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:41.41 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, we do, do discourage people from waiting for items they know no one else will bid on, from undercutting |
| 00:41.45 | VonhintenHOME` | do=to |
| 00:42.23 | NivFreak | I'm not sure why that's bad |
| 00:42.33 | NivFreak | if you're willing to wait and not be the first for a drop |
| 00:42.38 | NivFreak | why not get it for a reduced price? |
| 00:42.49 | NivFreak | and use those points somewhere you'd like to be first |
| 00:42.58 | VonhintenHOME` | well, for instance, if we only have one shaman with us and a piece for shaman drops |
| 00:43.02 | Kuosi | all dkp systems fail in the end anyway :( |
| 00:43.26 | VonhintenHOME` | they'll be the only one that'll bid, so to keep them from waiting until it's 0 cost, we set a minimum before DE |
| 00:43.35 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: yea, see that's where I'd fall into as he sole prot warrior |
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| 00:43.39 | NivFreak | I'd never pay top price |
| 00:44.03 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: we were thinking the same thing but 100% -> 50% -> 25% |
| 00:44.12 | NivFreak | so there's still a cost, but it's much lower |
| 00:44.25 | NivFreak | NeoTron: how do you guys deal with that? |
| 00:44.33 | NivFreak | can I bid 1 dkp every time if i'm the solo prot warrior |
| 00:44.36 | VonhintenHOME` | We don't have a solution to that yet, but we're talking about trying to solve the other problem, of people not needing gear that's dropping but it still being viable for offspecs |
| 00:44.37 | NivFreak | or boomkin |
| 00:44.38 | NivFreak | etc |
| 00:44.51 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: it sounds like reducing your costs would do that |
| 00:44.55 | VonhintenHOME` | so we'll probably allow bids for offspecs at any value |
| 00:45.08 | VonhintenHOME` | and whoever bids highest (silently) will win |
| 00:45.14 | VonhintenHOME` | allowing 0 bids |
| 00:45.31 | CIA-43 | 03ananhaid * r76503 10Capping/locals/ (localization-zhCN.lua localization-zhTW.lua): |
| 00:45.31 | CIA-43 | Capping: |
| 00:45.31 | CIA-43 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 00:45.54 | NeoTron | Kuosi: mine isn't failing |
| 00:46.06 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: you'd allow them to bid 0dkp? |
| 00:46.14 | NeoTron | NivFreak: in theory you can |
| 00:46.28 | NeoTron | but if you wait until the 2nd round you risk the holy pally getting your prot peice |
| 00:46.29 | NivFreak | NeoTron: do you make on/offspec restrictions? |
| 00:46.35 | NivFreak | ah |
| 00:46.41 | VonhintenHOME` | Niv, rather than DE something, yeah... but that person that bids 0 risks that someone will bid 1, and beat them :) |
| 00:46.41 | NeoTron | first round is main spec only |
| 00:46.50 | VonhintenHOME` | So it lets people put a real value on what they want |
| 00:47.00 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I see, you have min bids |
| 00:47.23 | NeoTron | in reality we almost always do 1 min first bid in BT now (limited to main spec use, trial or not) |
| 00:47.28 | NeoTron | because we're trying to gear up trials |
| 00:47.33 | NeoTron | and newer members |
| 00:48.08 | NeoTron | annoying to have to reclear because some pally or shaman picked up their third/pvp piece instead of giving it to the perso who truly neede dit |
| 00:48.33 | NivFreak | that was sort of a stupid change |
| 00:48.34 | NeoTron | essentially it's sort of a loot council system to minimize time in bt/hyjal |
| 00:49.33 | NivFreak | yea, but all your core folks probably everything but glaves |
| 00:49.34 | NivFreak | right? |
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| 00:52.55 | CIA-43 | 03Fritos * r76504 10DailiesQuestTracker/ (15 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:52.55 | CIA-43 | DailiesQuestTracker: |
| 00:52.55 | CIA-43 | - You can now display faction status and colorization in the group header of the DQT tooltip for easier reference |
| 00:52.55 | CIA-43 | - You can move factions to inactive or collapse the group header in the reputation pane and DQT will still grab faction information correctly |
| 00:52.57 | CIA-43 | - LibAbacus-3.0 is no longer used, as I'm formatting my own values to Blizzards coin display |
| 00:52.59 | CIA-43 | - Removed the below level 70 [DISCLAIMER], redundant info not needed in tooltip. |
| 00:53.01 | CIA-43 | - Removed the Random Dailies [MESSAGE], will populate normally. |
| 00:54.26 | NeoTron | not entirely but close to |
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| 01:04.36 | CIA-43 | LittleWigs: Auchindoun |
| 01:04.36 | CIA-43 | - Blackheart: Tweaked Timers |
| 01:04.36 | CIA-43 | - Maladaar: Cleanup |
| 01:04.36 | CIA-43 | - Shirrak: Added new boss (drycode) |
| 01:04.37 | CIA-43 | - Syth: Tweaked CombatListener |
| 01:05.01 | Dark_Elf | http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/880/880827p1.html |
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| 01:07.52 | DARKGuy | Hm, sexy |
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| 01:08.41 | Xinhuan | http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1273232.ece |
| 01:10.19 | DARKGuy | You know, that was like when you're on a killing spree in WSG, and then some puny mage one-fireballs you. |
| 01:11.46 | DARKGuy | Just uglier. |
| 01:11.59 | Ackis | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/tra :D lol |
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| 01:20.33 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: initial commit |
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| 01:31.21 | CIA-43 | Prescription: |
| 01:31.21 | CIA-43 | -Remove blacklist capability and associated functions |
| 01:31.21 | CIA-43 | -Add a check to only run buff queries on online raid members (drycoded) |
| 01:32.25 | Lukian | aww that's a cute addon name :D |
| 01:33.28 | CIA-43 | 03Copystring * r76509 10YurrCombatLog/: |
| 01:33.28 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 01:33.28 | CIA-43 | - updated externals |
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| 02:14.38 | CIA-43 | - koKR Update |
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| 02:27.08 | DARKGuy | Cryect, hey, I <3 Recount ^_^... just have a small feedback when you're there - is there a possibility to add a "Hide on non-combat" checkbox? kinda the inverted option that there is actually (hide on combat) |
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| 02:30.38 | DARKGuy | hey, how good is Recount2 compared to the old one? |
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| 02:37.14 | copystring | last time i tried recount 2 it had no config at all |
| 02:37.30 | copystring | (yet) |
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| 02:40.17 | DARKGuy | boo :( |
| 02:40.22 | Avrys | bies |
| 02:40.40 | copystring | but the bars are clickable :> |
| 02:41.14 | Zhinjio | Anyone know if ATSW is still being maintained? |
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| 02:44.18 | CIA-43 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
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| 04:04.43 | CIA-43 | HeadCount: |
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| 04:04.44 | CIA-43 | - Added phpBB with ItemStats export |
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| 04:10.28 | Silverstorm | grrr.....11-12 Illidan kills, and we're still spending 10 wipes to kill him sometimes |
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| 04:14.38 | Killmore | hi |
| 04:15.01 | Killmore | is it legal to use ForeverAFK ? |
| 04:19.48 | Arrowmaster | yes but blizzard doesnt want you to |
| 04:19.51 | Primer | Hrmm, is there a way to make a macro loop? |
| 04:20.00 | Primer | I want to make a macro to buff party members |
| 04:20.10 | Primer | for 1..25 do...done |
| 04:20.14 | Primer | kinda thing |
| 04:20.15 | |Yssaril| | Primer: not gonna happen :P |
| 04:20.20 | Primer | why not? |
| 04:20.28 | |Yssaril| | global cooldown :P |
| 04:20.34 | Arrowmaster | because its not possible with just a macro |
| 04:21.04 | |Yssaril| | also that was the whole reason behind 2.0 is to get rid of automation where we dont have to "think" anymore |
| 04:21.20 | Primer | uhh |
| 04:21.40 | Primer | I just want a button I can hit over and over until they're all buffed |
| 04:21.54 | Arrowmaster | you will need an addon to do that |
| 04:21.54 | Primer | I didn't mean to imply it'd cast it all at once |
| 04:22.32 | Ellipsis | there are a bunch of addons that bind scroll wheel to cast buffs on people who need them |
| 04:24.23 | |Yssaril| | primer what class are you buffing with anyways? |
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| 04:26.38 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 04:26.38 | CIA-43 | - make ChatFrame selection work |
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| 04:33.47 | CIA-43 | - sorry for my typo mistake, fix it |
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| 05:25.23 | CIA-43 | - GetSubsets works correctly |
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| 05:58.41 | Bortex | Hi, please join irc://irc.foonetic.net/xkcd for a moment, I need help configuring Warcraft |
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| 05:59.14 | dylanm | What |
| 06:00.10 | Ellipsis | lulz? |
| 06:00.49 | VonhintenHOME` | hi, please join my virus bot |
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| 06:02.00 | VonhintenHOME` | I almost want to go and see what will happen... |
| 06:02.06 | VonhintenHOME` | see if there's a new nasty in the wild |
| 06:02.17 | Ellipsis | but that's the real xkcd channel |
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| 06:02.35 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't know what that is |
| 06:02.45 | Silverstorm | it's an amazing webcomic :-p |
| 06:07.37 | Funkeh` | goood morning folks |
| 06:08.06 | Ellipsis | hides in Funkeh`s cereal bowl |
| 06:09.12 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 06:09.34 | Silviu- | Morning |
| 06:10.10 | Silviu- | Funkeh` i wanted to ask u, if FreeMe removes nether protection every time, so it`s 'safe" to tank twins without reskilling ? ;) |
| 06:11.08 | Funkeh` | unless it grew an AI and now decides when it wants to, i think every time is a correct assumption :P |
| 06:11.24 | Silviu- | Okay, thank u :D |
| 06:11.27 | Arrowmaster | it really works? as in has been tested? |
| 06:11.42 | Silviu- | I will sunday :P |
| 06:11.59 | Arrowmaster | we all thought it would still cause you to lose aggro |
| 06:12.11 | Silviu- | Hmm no |
| 06:12.28 | Silviu- | U loose aggro when the mob cats the second spell and u are imune |
| 06:12.45 | Funkeh` | so it's not like bop? |
| 06:12.51 | Silviu- | Then u loose aggro , not when Nether protection triggers |
| 06:12.53 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was like bop |
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| 06:13.00 | Silviu- | no |
| 06:13.16 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 06:13.36 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: you added it thinking it wouldnt work? |
| 06:14.08 | Funkeh` | i have no idea, i was just requesteed to add it for tanking, never played a lock |
| 06:14.49 | Funkeh` | not gonna argue with someone who plays a lock who says it's useful :P |
| 06:15.27 | Ellipsis | I'm not convinced til someone tries it |
| 06:15.30 | Funkeh` | well apparently they did test it in front |
| 06:15.35 | Ellipsis | a lot of immunity is detected by npcs |
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| 06:15.59 | Zpredator[AUS] | hey everyone. |
| 06:16.33 | Zpredator[AUS] | just a quick question (working on my ui) using chinchilla and i have a problem with the location bar. |
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| 06:16.53 | Zpredator[AUS] | Anyone experiencing anything similiar? |
| 06:17.02 | Ellipsis | similar to what, exactly? |
| 06:17.44 | Zpredator[AUS] | the location bar will keep continue to show when i toggle it off. |
| 06:17.49 | Ellipsis | disable the location module AND the location bar/text in the hide/show menu |
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| 06:19.38 | Zpredator[AUS] | same problem. |
| 06:19.49 | Zpredator[AUS] | when i enter a new zone it comes back up |
| 06:19.56 | Ellipsis | any other map/minimap addons active? |
| 06:20.00 | Zpredator[AUS] | ive seen some other posts in the forum relating to this issue |
| 06:20.04 | Zpredator[AUS] | no. |
| 06:20.14 | Ellipsis | shrugs |
| 06:20.16 | Ellipsis | doesn't happen to me |
| 06:20.47 | Zpredator[AUS] | Its interferring with something i guess. |
| 06:21.43 | Soeters | does someone can help me to make oCD icons go up and not down? |
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| 06:29.13 | Zpredator[AUS] | the chinchilla has been notified twice on the official forum |
| 06:29.19 | Zpredator[AUS] | issue* |
| 06:29.33 | Ellipsis | well I've never seen a ticket for it on the jira project |
| 06:29.41 | Ellipsis | and I know every ticket there :P |
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| 06:36.21 | Funkeh` | Silverstorm, what do you thin of the _dps changes? |
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| 06:38.55 | pastamancer | anyone around with the esES client installed? |
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| 06:41.39 | Silverstorm | Funkeh`: looks fine to me. at some point I had it throttling correctly, may have been before i ever checked in, though :-p |
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| 06:42.20 | Funkeh` | still doing that raid dps block? |
| 06:42.26 | Silverstorm | I like the forward function, hadn't thought of that one yet |
| 06:42.38 | Silverstorm | yes, it seems to be working for us, I'll get it checked in shortly |
| 06:43.07 | Funkeh` | yeah beats using ace event really |
| 06:43.20 | Silverstorm | Only question I really have for it is if I'm using the correct flags to detect raid members/pets |
| 06:43.26 | Silverstorm | true |
| 06:43.26 | CIA-43 | 03cwdg * r76521 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 06:43.27 | CIA-43 | LibBabble-Boss-3.0: |
| 06:43.27 | CIA-43 | -Update zhCN locale |
| 06:44.05 | Funkeh` | is it not just a matter of UnitInRaid? |
| 06:44.18 | Silverstorm | I'll clean up the Raid DPS block and make it similar to DPS, and then check in |
| 06:45.47 | Silverstorm | not quite. wowwiki says that won't catch pets |
| 06:46.19 | Silverstorm | I haven't paid close enough attention to be certain, though. Pets are a marginal amount of DPS in a raid anyway |
| 06:46.36 | cladhaire | !api UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid |
| 06:46.37 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid |
| 06:46.39 | cladhaire | Silverstorm: ^^ |
| 06:47.17 | Silverstorm | ah, that will probably work, thanks clad |
| 06:47.34 | Funkeh` | cladhaire, <3 |
| 06:47.34 | cladhaire | np! |
| 06:48.03 | Silverstorm | is that faster or slower than bitmasking, though? |
| 06:48.03 | Arrowmaster | are you using unitids or names? |
| 06:48.03 | cladhaire | faster |
| 06:48.03 | cladhaire | if you have the unitid |
| 06:48.03 | cladhaire | or name |
| 06:48.03 | Arrowmaster | wont work for name |
| 06:48.03 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: why not? |
| 06:48.16 | Arrowmaster | afaik using "name" for unitid only works for players |
| 06:48.25 | Arrowmaster | not pets |
| 06:48.33 | cladhaire | ah yes, you're correct |
| 06:48.43 | cladhaire | without a unitid it won't work for pets |
| 06:48.56 | cladhaire | so you'd need to mask |
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| 06:49.28 | Arrowmaster | masking is better anyway if your using the combatlog, you have more control |
| 06:49.28 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 06:49.50 | Silverstorm | local srcRaidFilter = bor(COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_RAID, |
| 06:49.52 | Silverstorm | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.53 | Silverstorm | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.55 | Silverstorm | that look right for raid members/pets? |
| 06:51.01 | Arrowmaster | like you can exclude mindcontrolled units much easyer |
| 06:51.17 | Arrowmaster | although i dont know how they ended up handling mindcontrol in the flags, like if they used my suggestion of keeping it neutral or if everybody else shows up as hostal in the mindcontrolled players combatlog |
| 06:51.25 | Arrowmaster | Silverstorm: i think |
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| 06:51.45 | Silverstorm | it seems to match with what others report Raid DPS as from their mods |
| 06:51.46 | Funkeh` | cladhaire, do you know if unitplayerorpetinraid suffers from the same problem of unitinraid? Someproblem where player names beging with "pet" or "raid" etc ask in the unitid |
| 06:52.16 | Funkeh` | as in * |
| 06:52.38 | cladhaire | I wasn't aware of that "bug" as I would call it, and it should be reported if thats the case :P |
| 06:52.44 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: all functions that accept unitids should behave the same way for that bug since its in the name->unitid conversion |
| 06:52.46 | cladhaire | but yes, it would |
| 06:52.53 | cladhaire | as Arrowmaster said |
| 06:52.55 | Arrowmaster | i think i has been reported |
| 06:53.04 | Silverstorm | we have a feral tank named "Raiden"...endless problems with oRA2 |
| 06:53.19 | cladhaire | yikes |
| 06:53.21 | Arrowmaster | the bug also happens with secureframes, like oRA2s MT list |
| 06:53.24 | cladhaire | i wouldn't expect raid* to have that issue |
| 06:53.28 | cladhaire | i _would_ expect pet* to have it |
| 06:53.32 | Silverstorm | but the builtin stuff seems to work for some people |
| 06:53.37 | cladhaire | ot at least think its more reasonable |
| 06:53.53 | Arrowmaster | sounds like lazy pattern matching on their part |
| 06:53.59 | cladhaire | hehe :P |
| 06:54.05 | Silverstorm | they're all UnitIds though, so it doesn't surprise me at all |
| 06:54.12 | cladhaire | that means it should be easier to fix |
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| 06:54.21 | cladhaire | well, i mean "pet" is a unitid in all regards |
| 06:54.23 | Arrowmaster | cladhaire: i found out somebody at blizzard doesnt know how to do lua pattern matching, look closely in ChatFrame.lua |
| 06:54.23 | cladhaire | "raid" isn't tho |
| 06:54.27 | Funkeh` | lets hope for 2.4.3 :) |
| 06:54.31 | cladhaire | "raid%d" is |
| 06:54.42 | Silverstorm | true, but we never have to worry about the issue outside of raids :-p |
| 06:54.50 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: did you report the bug? They have lots of really good UI people, but they have new people coming along all the time |
| 06:55.01 | cladhaire | and non-ui people that put their hands into the ui code if necessary |
| 06:55.05 | Arrowmaster | cladhaire: its not a bug afaik but just stupid patterns |
| 06:55.20 | cladhaire | ah okay |
| 06:55.23 | cladhaire | then thats less of an issue :P |
| 06:55.31 | Funkeh` | C people speed learning lua? ;p |
| 06:55.31 | cladhaire | but yes, there's lots of code that could be "better" |
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| 06:55.42 | Arrowmaster | local team, name = strmatch(msg, "^(%d+)[%w+%d+]*%s+(.*)"); |
| 06:55.42 | cladhaire | but it works, and changing it mid stream is harder than most people think |
| 06:55.49 | Arrowmaster | no i mean really stupid patterns |
| 06:56.07 | cladhaire | yes, I know what you're saying |
| 06:56.11 | cladhaire | but what I said still applies. |
| 06:56.27 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt do anything but it doesnt 'bug' |
| 06:56.35 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 06:57.27 | Arrowmaster | i still dont quite understand wtf this person was thinking that did SlashCmdList["RANDOM"] = function(msg) |
| 06:57.52 | cladhaire | showers |
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| 07:01.07 | Funkeh` | i got me a pet yey |
| 07:01.12 | Funkeh` | (lvl10) |
| 07:01.25 | cladhaire | i prefer to test with warlocks :P |
| 07:01.29 | cladhaire | level 1 pets ftw! |
| 07:01.48 | Funkeh` | haha, i was just talking in general :P |
| 07:01.52 | cladhaire | lol |
| 07:01.56 | Funkeh` | my first hunter and pet class |
| 07:02.00 | cladhaire | then gz! |
| 07:02.11 | Funkeh` | a kitty ofc ! |
| 07:02.34 | Arrowmaster | i would have yelled boar before they nerfed them |
| 07:04.14 | Funkeh` | hehe |
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| 07:04.41 | Funkeh` | ok, so now badboy has an auto report saved variable |
| 07:04.52 | Funkeh` | so people can stop whining about editing the lua |
| 07:05.14 | Funkeh` | and i'll tell then to /script it to turn it on |
| 07:05.20 | Funkeh` | like i'm giving them a slash command |
| 07:05.50 | Arrowmaster | you can auto report? |
| 07:06.18 | Funkeh` | it auto reports by default, you can manual reporting using blizz's popup |
| 07:06.25 | breser | ~seen sag_ich_nicht |
| 07:06.32 | purl | sag_ich_nicht <i=bitch2k@85.127.104.7> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 24d 9h 30m 38s ago, saying: '~asktoask'. |
| 07:06.55 | breser | Hmm guess he doesn't get on here anymore |
| 07:07.10 | Arrowmaster | no hes still banned |
| 07:07.12 | cladhaire | wasn't he banned? |
| 07:07.32 | Silverstorm | alright, updated the RDPS code, I'll test it tomorrow night and commit after our raid, likely |
| 07:07.35 | cladhaire | ah |
| 07:07.45 | breser | Hmm ok |
| 07:07.52 | Arrowmaster | its a rather poor banmask though and could easyly be evaded |
| 07:08.18 | breser | All bans are easily avoided on IRC. |
| 07:08.38 | VonhintenHOME` | banned for what? |
| 07:08.45 | Arrowmaster | being himself |
| 07:08.46 | pastamancer | being a troll |
| 07:08.49 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 07:09.13 | pastamancer | hmm, my +v is missing |
| 07:09.21 | breser | I was just looking for him becuase he posted a comment on curse about one of my addons and wanted more details. |
| 07:09.47 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: you arent identified |
| 07:09.54 | Funkeh` | hmm |
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| 07:11.12 | Funkeh` | i really need to learn saved variables without acedb, is it not a matter of just declaring something in the toc like XDB, then it becomes available as a global in the lua and you can change it with /script? at least i changed it to true and doing a check in the addon seems to fail |
| 07:11.41 | Arrowmaster | you have to wait until after ADDON_LOADED |
| 07:12.49 | Funkeh` | well it performed the check when it detected spam which was well after it loading :P, lemme double check |
| 07:13.32 | Arrowmaster | you arent upvaluing it or trying to check a local copy are you? |
| 07:13.37 | Ellipsis | doesn't it also have to be a table? so setting it to true would be screwy |
| 07:13.43 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:13.57 | Funkeh` | no but i am using _G don't think that should matter? |
| 07:14.06 | Arrowmaster | should be fine |
| 07:14.38 | Funkeh` | SV: ## SavedVariables: BADBOY_POPUP Lua: if _G.BADBOY_POPUP then |
| 07:18.09 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 07:18.11 | Funkeh` | it is working |
| 07:18.15 | Funkeh` | I'm just an idiot |
| 07:18.17 | Funkeh` | thought so |
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| 07:21.51 | Arrowmaster | hmm what is addon.baseName used for in AceAddon-3.0 |
| 07:23.32 | cladhaire | Arrowmaster: module names maybe? |
| 07:23.37 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76522 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: pre v1.9 - manual reporting option now saves, use /script BADBBOY_POPUP = true to turn it on. |
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| 07:23.47 | cladhaire | thats my guess :P |
| 07:23.57 | Arrowmaster | i did a find in files and only came up with where its set |
| 07:24.02 | cladhaire | heh |
| 07:24.04 | cladhaire | dunno then :P |
| 07:24.25 | pastamancer | ah, my auto identify script seems to have broken |
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| 07:45.34 | laeg | are there any wow linux users here? |
| 07:48.02 | ncd|Aileen | <- |
| 07:48.17 | vhaarr | many |
| 07:48.24 | laeg | sweet |
| 07:48.29 | laeg | i have created a short script to run a program in a dedicated x server - could some one take a look at it and tweak it to work under ubuntu please? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/19568/ |
| 07:48.40 | laeg | the program being wow, it's supposed to boost fps by 15 |
| 07:49.12 | ncd|Aileen | mh, nice to know oO |
| 07:49.30 | many | vhaarr: yes? |
| 07:49.35 | vhaarr | :P |
| 07:49.41 | many | :P |
| 07:49.44 | Kalroth | haha |
| 07:49.47 | vhaarr | I didn't see that one coming, haha |
| 07:50.02 | Wraithan | bagnon doesn't to sorting? hmm |
| 07:50.05 | vhaarr | laeg: I've never heard of that before, sounds interesting |
| 07:50.08 | Wraithan | I thought it did |
| 07:50.19 | vhaarr | I'll have to try it later |
| 07:51.03 | Wraithan | er, actually I remember I had an addon I just clicked in fubar to sort my inventory |
| 07:51.09 | laeg | vhaarr: cool, i got it from a warcraft gentoo tweaking guide http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine#Performance_Tweaks |
| 07:51.10 | Wraithan | or something like that |
| 07:51.27 | many | btw, what came out of the committing-to-trunk discussion? is everyone still committing to trunk? |
| 07:51.38 | laeg | i think i average around 35fps, a mod that could average fps correctly would be great |
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| 07:51.52 | many | was pondering the other day why ag_UF doesnt seem uptodate while ag_UF plugins are |
| 07:52.33 | renchap | /// |
| 07:52.38 | renchap | oops |
| 07:54.39 | vhaarr | Wraithan: BankStack |
| 07:57.37 | vhaarr | laeg: why doesn't the script work on ubuntu? |
| 07:58.17 | Arrowmaster | which X |
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| 08:04.51 | evl | NERF HUNTERS. |
| 08:04.52 | laeg | vhaarr: when i open it it gives me the option to run in terminal or run |
| 08:05.10 | evl | I had to put that in caps after I saw a WWS now with a hunter w/o legendary bow doing 3175 DPS with 1 Bloodlust. |
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| 08:07.05 | laeg | vhaarr: i'm trying to capture the error log |
| 08:07.58 | laeg | bash: launch-wow.sh: command not found |
| 08:08.06 | laeg | bash: run: command not found |
| 08:08.19 | durcyn | .... you're a bit new at this linux bit, aren't you. |
| 08:09.01 | durcyn | cwd is not in $PATH by default, for a good reason. chmod it +x and ./launch-wow.sh |
| 08:10.31 | laeg | -rwxr-xr-x 1 laeg laeg 272 2008-06-12 01:33 launch-wow.sh |
| 08:15.24 | laeg | durcyn, vhaarr: the error is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/19572/ - please not that wow works fine when i use an icon to launch it |
| 08:16.05 | vhaarr | sudo the X line? |
| 08:16.13 | durcyn | uh, no, not going to help you figure out basic usage. |
| 08:16.39 | durcyn | i'll give you one hint though: google the first errror |
| 08:17.32 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: ping |
| 08:18.18 | laeg | vhaarr: ya i put in sudo ./launch-wow.sh but i get a full screen with black and white pixels and an X cursor but nothing happens |
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| 08:22.10 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: pong |
| 08:22.23 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: whats addon.baseName for? |
| 08:23.04 | Arrowmaster | its set in AceAddon-3.0's OnEvent |
| 08:23.07 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:23.22 | [Ammo] | it contains the name of the addon that spawned this AceAddon object |
| 08:23.23 | Arrowmaster | but not used anywhere in ace3 |
| 08:23.30 | [Ammo] | it's a curtsey var ;) |
| 08:23.35 | [Ammo] | handy dandy etc |
| 08:23.39 | Arrowmaster | ok i have a diff then |
| 08:23.55 | [Ammo] | pastey |
| 08:24.46 | Arrowmaster | http://ace.pastey.net/89469 |
| 08:25.10 | [Ammo] | that's complicating it way too much |
| 08:25.24 | Arrowmaster | pff is not |
| 08:25.29 | [Ammo] | it is |
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| 08:27.55 | Arrowmaster | is it a 'completely out of the question' thing or a 'would rather not' |
| 08:28.09 | laeg | durcyn: i thought it might be sudo i just wasn't sure whether to put it in the command line or in the script some place |
| 08:29.26 | durcyn | is your X server sticky or no |
| 08:29.37 | NeoTron | man we had a perfect attempt on twins, no one dead, 2nd around 44% or so |
| 08:29.38 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: it's just complicating things, and I like how aceaddon-3.0 is simple atm |
| 08:29.38 | NeoTron | then I died |
| 08:29.41 | NeoTron | sigh |
| 08:30.25 | NeoTron | good news is the number of conflag wipes have decreased and we're making real progress |
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| 08:31.20 | durcyn | thanks for sharing. |
| 08:33.24 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: going to play around with that patch some |
| 08:33.32 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: i like it simple too but i think OnInit being able to be called before the saved variables are ready is a large flaw, you might as well tell everybody to register for VARIABLES_LOADED instead |
| 08:33.59 | [Ammo] | I know, but I am not sure your solution is the best yet |
| 08:34.02 | Arrowmaster | being simple and making people think is good |
| 08:34.10 | [Ammo] | hence I'm going to play around with it a bit |
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| 08:34.20 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 08:34.43 | CIA-43 | 03pettigrow * r76523 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/ (Hellmaw.lua Ikiss.lua Murmur.lua Shirrak.lua): LittleWigs: frFR Update |
| 08:34.53 | Arrowmaster | but yeah making people have to think too much because its a non obvious detail of the framework isnt so good |
| 08:34.59 | [Ammo] | I know |
| 08:35.10 | [Ammo] | I'm not sure your solution is foolproof either though |
| 08:35.30 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 08:36.10 | [Ammo] | lets say you have an addon that has 2 AceAddon objects |
| 08:36.30 | [Ammo] | first addon object to be initialized does a LoadAddOn |
| 08:36.48 | [Ammo] | then your second addon won't have a baseName yet |
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| 08:37.05 | [Ammo] | -> exact same problem as before |
| 08:37.17 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 08:37.20 | laeg | durcyn: i don't know if it is sticky |
| 08:37.35 | Arrowmaster | first addon does LoadAddOn in its OnInit? |
| 08:37.36 | phyber | > model editing users get spanked by blizz. |
| 08:37.40 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 08:37.41 | phyber | is there a forum post on this recently? |
| 08:37.50 | phyber | I can't see anything on cardplace or mmo-champion |
| 08:38.06 | [Ammo] | first addon object that is |
| 08:38.06 | Xinhuan | its in a forum post |
| 08:38.20 | Arrowmaster | neither one manually sets baseName though right? |
| 08:38.31 | [Ammo] | they can't |
| 08:38.32 | phyber | Xinhuan: don't suppose you know the title and region of the post? :) |
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| 08:38.38 | [Ammo] | (in my situation that is_) |
| 08:38.43 | Xinhuan | sorry, dont' remember it |
| 08:38.46 | [Ammo] | I'm taking BigWigs as an example btw |
| 08:38.47 | Xinhuan | try looking for "model" |
| 08:38.54 | phyber | k, np. i'm sure i'll stumple on it eventually ;) |
| 08:38.55 | [Ammo] | which has a BigWigsLOD and a BigWigsCore addon object |
| 08:39.32 | Arrowmaster | basename wont be set for either one until right before they do AceAddon:InitializeAddon(addon) then |
| 08:39.46 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:39.51 | Arrowmaster | i didnt fix your recursion bug where baseName was getting set improperly when you use LoadAddOn |
| 08:40.01 | [Ammo] | I know |
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| 08:40.16 | [Ammo] | but now you require people to manually set a baseName or it'll go wrong |
| 08:40.36 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:41.23 | [Ammo] | 1 addon, 2 addon objects, first object to init calls LoadAddon -> 2 second object is out of luck |
| 08:41.46 | Arrowmaster | i dont see the issue |
| 08:41.53 | [Ammo] | same issue as before |
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| 08:42.12 | Arrowmaster | that its setting baseName incorrectly? |
| 08:42.23 | [Ammo] | no saved variables etc |
| 08:42.28 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:43.04 | Arrowmaster | no because if you are doing LoadAddOn in OnInit then the ADDON_LOADED for that addon will have already fired |
| 08:43.15 | Arrowmaster | meaning the saved vars are there |
| 08:43.21 | [Ammo] | ok you mean LoadAddon in the body of a file |
| 08:43.24 | [Ammo] | I am not fixing that issue |
| 08:44.26 | [Ammo] | it's a nonissue |
| 08:47.33 | Arrowmaster | ok if you wont fix it then in the docs it needs to be explictly stated that OnInit may (probably will) be called before the addon is fully loaded and saved vars are available if you use LoadAddOn before OnInit is called (not effected by reqdeps or optdeps in the toc) |
| 08:52.45 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: my patch does have 1 issue where it should be coping the baseName over to newmodules too |
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| 08:53.46 | [Ammo] | your patch complicates things for something that isn't really an issue and can be worked around multiple ways |
| 08:54.16 | [Ammo] | it's taking care of all these fringe cases that made Ace2 the bloatfest it is |
| 08:55.25 | [Ammo] | it's stated that OnInitialize will be called on ADDON_LOADED in the docs, and if you trigger an ADDON_LOADED that's whats going to happen |
| 08:59.11 | Arrowmaster | if you want to fix the issue of baseName not getting set correctly i think it should be an easy fix to loop over #AceAddon.initializequeue before the while loop and set it for any addon objects its not already set in |
| 08:59.27 | [Ammo] | yeah probably |
| 09:00.12 | Arrowmaster | set it to the arg1 of the event that it first appears in instead of the event it actually gets run from |
| 09:00.47 | [Ammo] | yeah that might work |
| 09:01.10 | [Ammo] | or just remove the whole baseName deal |
| 09:01.16 | [Ammo] | but it might be useful |
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| 09:08.01 | Wraithan | you can only have one potion effect at a time now? |
| 09:10.14 | [Ammo] | random question of some importance, does Sneed or Sneed's Shredder in deadmines have a fear spell? |
| 09:10.24 | laeg | wow recount2 has a nice interface |
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| 09:19.15 | Kuosi | laeg: how is it building up? |
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| 09:19.59 | Kuosi | havent taken a look at for a while, last time I checked it didn't have menus or anything to begin with |
| 09:20.29 | dieck_ | [Ammo]: uh, wasn't in dm for a looong time, but doesn't he fear when going to phase 2 (Shredder => Sneed)? |
| 09:20.40 | [Ammo] | maybe |
| 09:20.43 | [Ammo] | I'm just pondering |
| 09:20.52 | [Ammo] | because wowhead doesn't report Sneed or Sneed's Shredder using the terrify spell |
| 09:20.57 | [Ammo] | but it's in the BabyWigs module |
| 09:21.37 | dieck_ | BabyWigs? Not seen that yet, maybe I'll have a look :) |
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| 09:27.24 | Groktar | all glory to me! |
| 09:28.09 | profalbert | Is it possible to reroute Error-messages (like "Out of Range") to SinkLib? |
| 09:28.29 | [Ammo] | can't ErrorMonster do that? |
| 09:28.47 | [Ammo] | yep |
| 09:28.52 | [Ammo] | it can via Sink-2.0 |
| 09:29.05 | profalbert | thx |
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| 09:29.07 | CIA-43 | 03ananhaid * r76524 10LittleWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:29.07 | CIA-43 | LittleWigs: |
| 09:29.07 | CIA-43 | - zhCN update. |
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| 10:10.07 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin ladies |
| 10:10.22 | Groktar | touches Pkekyo's naughty part |
| 10:10.43 | Pkekyo| | runs |
| 10:10.55 | Groktar | catches Pkekyo| |
| 10:11.02 | Pkekyo| | runs some more |
| 10:11.06 | Groktar | stabs Pkekyo's naughty part with a huge knife |
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| 10:11.23 | Pkekyo| | what are you? a slasher/daterapist? |
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| 10:17.04 | Pkekyo| | hai Ellipsis |
| 10:17.08 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis |
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| 10:24.33 | Pkekyo| | once again...with or without externals? :p |
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| 10:24.46 | Lukian | without is 'better' |
| 10:24.52 | Pkekyo| | because? :) |
| 10:24.58 | Lukian | faster loading times |
| 10:25.01 | Lukian | less downloading to do |
| 10:25.08 | laeg | Kuosi: so far i've only tested it with a level 6 player so i can't really comment :) |
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| 10:25.21 | Pkekyo| | ok, you had me at faster loading times :p |
| 10:25.26 | profalbert | Lukian: some addons fail when running disembedded |
| 10:25.30 | profalbert | like ZOMGBuffs |
| 10:25.55 | Kuosi | laeg: ok :P |
| 10:26.06 | Pkekyo| | I don't want any addons with 'zomg' in their name anyways :p |
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| 10:26.57 | profalbert | Pkekyo|: it's a terrible name, that's true. but a damn useful mod |
| 10:27.36 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 10:27.54 | SunTsu | profalbert: I run it disembedded and it does not fail me |
| 10:28.14 | profalbert | SunTsu: the buff-display works fine, but the autocast doesn't work |
| 10:28.44 | Arrowmaster | if an addon fails when disembedded it means somebody mostly fucked up the optdeps |
| 10:28.45 | profalbert | and I assured it's enbled |
| 10:29.40 | Arrowmaster | why do people always get angry when i insult them? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13917.0 |
| 10:29.40 | SunTsu | profalbert: Autocasting as in "casts without doing anything" or as in "casts as soon as I was noticed and used the mouse wheel to buff" |
| 10:29.52 | profalbert | SunTsu: "casts as soon as I was noticed and used the mouse wheel to buff" |
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| 10:30.37 | SunTsu | profalbert: then it does it for me |
| 10:31.05 | profalbert | SunTsu: hmm, guess I'll have a look again |
| 10:31.51 | dieck_ | buffmods? Smartbuff for me :) Never got used to zomg |
| 10:31.59 | SunTsu | profalbert: I use JWU, which seems to touch embeds.xml |
| 10:32.38 | SunTsu | dieck_: Oh, I really love ZOMGBuffs, is one of the worst addon in naming and one of the best in functionality ;) |
| 10:33.42 | profalbert | SunTsu: I use JWU too. It "empties" the embeds.xml |
| 10:33.59 | SunTsu | profalbert: Yeah |
| 10:34.18 | profalbert | SunTsu: wait, I think files.wowace.com does that |
| 10:34.25 | profalbert | anyway |
| 10:34.46 | Groktar | devours profalbert's soul |
| 10:35.16 | Pkekyo| | what savedvar folder is it I should delete to reset all addons? |
| 10:35.36 | Arrowmaster | WTF |
| 10:35.50 | Pkekyo| | the entire WTF folder? |
| 10:35.59 | profalbert | Pkekyo| WTF/Account/<AccountName>/SavedVArs |
| 10:36.02 | Pkekyo| | thing is, got some auctioneer savedvars I wanna keep |
| 10:36.19 | Lukian | then keep them |
| 10:36.25 | Lukian | and delete everything else |
| 10:36.39 | Lukian | you might want to keep a copy of your config.wtf too, although that's better easy to redo |
| 10:36.55 | Lukian | and your macros |
| 10:37.46 | profalbert | Pkekyo|: Auctioneer stores data in WTF/Account/<AccountName>/SavedVars I think. so keep the auctioneer files in that folder, and delete everything else in WTF/Account/<AccountName>/ |
| 10:38.37 | dieck_ | there is WTF/Account/<AccountName>/SavedVars for account-wide-data and WTF/Account/<AccountName>/<Realm>/<Char>/-something for char wide data |
| 10:39.04 | profalbert | AceDB saves everything in account-wide data |
| 10:39.06 | dieck_ | same with macros, there are some global and some per character |
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| 10:39.43 | Pkekyo| | ok, cheers |
| 10:40.34 | dieck_ | btw, does anyone use SLS for loot? http://www.wowwiki.com/Shroud_Loot_System |
| 10:41.32 | Arrowmaster | profalbert: no it doesnt, well AceDB-2.0 doesnt |
| 10:41.33 | dieck_ | we're using SuicideKings right now and have some issues like the feeling to honor absence more than attendence :) So we looked around and found SLS |
| 10:43.06 | profalbert | Arrowmaster: hmm... how else would I be able to access profiles from other chars then? |
| 10:43.31 | Arrowmaster | profiles are global |
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| 10:43.38 | Arrowmaster | but theres also per char data |
| 10:43.54 | Arrowmaster | self.db.char |
| 10:43.57 | dieck_ | not all ace addons allow that, if the addon is programmed with char-expanding data it will use the golbal one |
| 10:44.15 | moo123 | is this channel for asking questions or just coordinating development? |
| 10:44.22 | moo123 | (hello, btw :) |
| 10:44.49 | Arrowmaster | if it uses self.db.char and gives a perchar saved var in the toc it will save it in the per char folders instead of the global ones |
| 10:45.00 | Arrowmaster | moo123: little of both |
| 10:45.11 | dieck_ | moo123: mostly smalltalk in here :) |
| 10:45.40 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76525 10StatBlocks_DPS/StatBlocks_DPS.lua: StatBlocks_DPS: match GUID's instead of names |
| 10:45.41 | hiflyer | dieck_: sounds fairly nice, that one |
| 10:46.00 | profalbert | Arrowmaster: thanks for the info (explains quite a lot for me) |
| 10:46.29 | moo123 | sweet. |
| 10:46.34 | Arrowmaster | acedb-3.0 droped that style though and only saves self.db.char in the global file |
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| 10:47.17 | Arrowmaster | you cant access the data from other chars but its a lot easyer to go in and rename character names and such |
| 10:47.23 | Arrowmaster | to move the data |
| 10:47.47 | dieck_ | hm. in terms of disk space it's of no matter, but isn't that a little memory exhausting for some addons, that only need per char data? |
| 10:48.38 | dieck_ | Arrowmaster: nice hint. I thought about renaming my hunter... nether thought about the addons ;) |
| 10:48.44 | Arrowmaster | if an addon only needs per char and only uses self.db.char it can still use per char saved vars but acedb-3.0 doesnt do anything special and will still treat it as global |
| 10:49.29 | Arrowmaster | so even if you moved it from the per char section of one char to another you would still have to go in and rename the stuff manually |
| 10:50.07 | dieck_ | Arrowmaster: ah, got it. of course, it's not the addon that manages PerChar or global, but blizzard |
| 10:50.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah its the toc |
| 10:50.46 | dieck_ | one layer higher. or deeper. whatever :) |
| 10:50.53 | Arrowmaster | ## SavedVariables: vs ## SavedVariablesPerChar: |
| 10:51.00 | moo123 | hey folks, is there a good pretty-printer out there for tables? |
| 10:51.07 | moo123 | I wrote my own, but it's pretty nasty. |
| 10:51.16 | Arrowmaster | tables? |
| 10:51.24 | moo123 | lua tables |
| 10:51.26 | Gnarfoz | tekProber is neat |
| 10:51.34 | Arrowmaster | well lets see |
| 10:51.36 | Arrowmaster | ~pil |
| 10:51.38 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 10:52.05 | Gnarfoz | dieck_: from that page, that system sounds flawed... it has a "if no one wants it, roll on it" clause, which kind of defeats all point based system's purpose |
| 10:52.17 | Arrowmaster | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ but thats only function references and stuff |
| 10:52.21 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprograming |
| 10:52.25 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 10:52.26 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 10:53.21 | moo123 | oh, so lua has it's own pretty printer? |
| 10:53.25 | Arrowmaster | moo123: anything specific? |
| 10:53.29 | dieck_ | Gnarfoz: one of the points we (as raidlead) are already discussing. Right now we're thinking about a "main spec loot is never low-bid" |
| 10:54.05 | Arrowmaster | moo123: oh pretty-printer, i misread that as something else |
| 10:54.22 | Arrowmaster | ~devtools |
| 10:54.23 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 10:54.25 | moo123 | I'm not having problems learning the language at all; i'm a fairly experienced programmer. I'm just trying to get a text representation of the data in a table: typically called a pretty-printer in other languages |
| 10:54.29 | moo123 | ah |
| 10:54.32 | moo123 | cool! |
| 10:54.44 | dieck_ | like print_r in php :) |
| 10:54.53 | moo123 | yeah, or pp in ruby or Data::Dumper in perl |
| 10:54.53 | Pkekyo| | so...should I use FuBar or FuBar2.0? |
| 10:55.01 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: FuBar |
| 10:55.08 | Arrowmaster | lua> pp(_G) |
| 10:55.08 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: { ["tostring"] = function: 0x6298a0, ["os"] = { ["date"] = function: 0x62d470, ["difftime"] = function: 0x62d4d0, ["time"] = function: 0x62a1f0, ["clock"] = function: 0x62d410 } (#2), ["getfenv"] = function: 0x629430, ["pairs"] = function: 0x6290e0, ["assert"] = function: 0x629310, ["tonumber"] = fu... (result truncated) |
| 10:55.17 | Gnarfoz | tekProber ftw |
| 10:55.26 | Arrowmaster | lua_bot custom^^ |
| 10:56.37 | Arrowmaster | if you have Ace2 or LibRockConsole-1.0 or DevTools youll have a /dump |
| 10:56.57 | moo123 | sweet. |
| 10:57.53 | moo123 | hmm, one more then I'll disappear for a while: other than the default lua mode, are there any vim addons that help with working with wow addons? |
| 10:58.25 | Pkekyo| | what's the name of that fancy in-game addon manager? |
| 10:58.29 | Gnarfoz | acp. |
| 10:58.45 | Pkekyo| | it's on WAU, right? |
| 10:58.49 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 10:58.51 | Arrowmaster | moo123: sec |
| 10:58.52 | Pkekyo| | cheers |
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| 11:00.16 | CIA-43 | 03dodge * r76526 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/ (3 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: some fixes do hide Cooldown feature |
| 11:00.41 | Arrowmaster | moo123: bah the one i was thinking of only seems to have the custom mappings of globals that blizzard did like table.insert to tinsert |
| 11:01.25 | moo123 | ah, I was hoping for an API highlighter or tags database or something like that. |
| 11:01.28 | Gnarfoz | moo123: there's probably a wow-lua syntax coloring file around (though I don't have one) |
| 11:01.37 | moo123 | I'll dig around, thanks. |
| 11:01.49 | Gnarfoz | I've got one for pspad, but that's a) a windows editor and b) incomplete because it's from pre-TBC |
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| 11:02.10 | Arrowmaster | dig in kergoths dot files hes probably got some but i just dont know exactly where to look |
| 11:02.12 | Arrowmaster | http://git.kergoth.com/homefiles.git |
| 11:02.32 | moo123 | yeah, I raid on a windows machine... but I can't work without vim and zsh |
| 11:02.55 | Arrowmaster | http://git.kergoth.com/homefiles.git?a=tree if you dont know where to go from there with webgit |
| 11:03.14 | CIA-43 | 03dodge * r76527 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/Bar_Manager.lua: CoolDownButtons: chaged update intervall, using slightly more cpu but ready messages should be more precise |
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| 11:04.02 | moo123 | oh, I use git for everything.. i'll just clone it |
| 11:04.09 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 11:06.21 | kalahassi | is there a highling-file for notepad++ that includes the changes blizzard did to the lua-api? |
| 11:06.55 | Arrowmaster | maybe since i have one for SciTE |
| 11:07.12 | Gnarfoz | I'd be interested in a syntax file that includes the wow api (in its entirety) that is up to date for 2.4, in any format (can be converted anyway somehow) |
| 11:07.50 | moo123 | whoa. is kargoth running wow under linux? |
| 11:08.06 | moo123 | err kergoth, sorry |
| 11:08.07 | Pkekyo| | apparently, QuickLoot is off the SVN, so what should I get to replace it? |
| 11:08.17 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: what does it do? |
| 11:08.25 | Arrowmaster | if you can give the details of the output syntax or its easy to find and understand cladhaire will make you one from the data on wowprogramming.com |
| 11:09.02 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: autoloots on right-click and moves the loot-frame to my mouse |
| 11:09.18 | Arrowmaster | moo123: quite a few people do, not sure if kergoth is still playing much anymore, havent seen him around here much recently |
| 11:09.19 | Gnarfoz | erm... blizzard ui ftw? there's autoloot ingame? |
| 11:09.34 | moo123 | huh. |
| 11:09.39 | moo123 | googles |
| 11:09.58 | Pkekyo| | there is? since when? |
| 11:10.21 | Gnarfoz | pre-bc |
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| 11:10.33 | Pkekyo| | :/ |
| 11:11.22 | Gnarfoz | actually, 2.0.1 |
| 11:11.36 | Pkekyo| | so, TBC then? |
| 11:12.20 | Gnarfoz | 2.0.1 was pre-tbc, actually |
| 11:12.34 | Gnarfoz | anyway that was wrong, there's a patch note about a fix to autolooting in 1.2.0 :P |
| 11:12.51 | Gnarfoz | "- Autoloot has been fixed to work with skinning." |
| 11:12.58 | Pkekyo| | kek |
| 11:13.16 | Gnarfoz | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/notes/enUS/4149 kek indeed |
| 11:13.25 | Pkekyo| | ah, right, there was but that was on shift+rightmouse....xloot made it work with only rightmouse |
| 11:15.50 | moo123 | bbl, thanks for the help |
| 11:17.26 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: there's an option in the blizz interface options to switch between 'shift autoloots' or 'shift loots normally' (i.e. turning autoloot off and on) |
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| 11:21.37 | mjc1 | Shot: around? |
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| 11:24.22 | erikh | greetings again. |
| 11:24.32 | erikh | is the artist formerly known as 'moo123' |
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| 11:44.16 | CIA-43 | 03scorpio0920 * r76528 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/ (Ikiss.lua Shirrak.lua): |
| 11:44.16 | CIA-43 | LittleWigs: |
| 11:44.16 | CIA-43 | - Update zhTW localization. |
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| 12:20.28 | Pkekyo| | jesus titty fucking christ...the new PitBull config window is so shitty it makes my harddrive smell |
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| 12:23.02 | _rane_ | new? |
| 12:23.19 | _rane_ | when did it change? |
| 12:23.33 | Pkekyo| | the rock config |
| 12:23.40 | Pkekyo| | haven't reconfiged PitBull since pre-rock |
| 12:24.03 | _rane_ | nothing wrong with it :U |
| 12:24.10 | Pkekyo| | ALOT wrong with it |
| 12:24.23 | Pkekyo| | it's imfuckingpossible to find anything at all |
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| 12:24.50 | _rane_ | not in my opinion :P |
| 12:24.51 | Jygga | well there are two riddles one has to solve before he proves worthy |
| 12:24.56 | profalbert | Pkekyo|: I don't know Pitbull's pre-rock-config, but I find everything I need in the rock-config |
| 12:25.05 | Jygga | apparently you are not ^^ |
| 12:25.07 | Jygga | :P |
| 12:25.11 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Just shift-rightclick on what you want to configure, you'll get the right menu |
| 12:25.44 | Jygga | SunTsu spreads the holy message! |
| 12:25.57 | Jygga | now we all are worthy, all praise him |
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| 12:26.12 | Jygga | too much eh? |
| 12:26.14 | Jygga | sorry ^^ |
| 12:26.38 | Pkekyo| | why does CKK hate normal color pickers so much? |
| 12:29.15 | ckknight | a normal color picker kicked my puppy. |
| 12:30.12 | Pkekyo| | it's fucking easier to load up photoshop, find the color you want and paste the hex-code into the pitbull config than to actually find it using the config itself |
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| 12:30.51 | hiflyer | ckknight: was the poor thing injured? |
| 12:31.21 | Pkekyo| | sure hope so |
| 12:31.38 | hiflyer | awww... but puppies are cute |
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| 12:33.11 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: any way to get rid of the black backdrop? |
| 12:33.30 | ckknight | yes, you can change the frame's backdrop |
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| 12:34.04 | Pkekyo| | how 'bout remove it entirely? if so: what menu? |
| 12:39.57 | Pkekyo| | wtf, when I alter the width of the MT frame, raidgroup 6 is altered as well? o.O' |
| 12:40.49 | profalbert | Pkekyo|: I encountered that with the party-frames when altering the party-pets-frame |
| 12:41.39 | profalbert | Pkekyo|: the workaround is: disable party-frame -> enable the party-pet-frame -> edit the party-pets-frame -> reenable the party-frame |
| 12:41.56 | profalbert | should work for your problem too, I suppose |
| 12:43.22 | SunTsu | profalbert: The other workaround, which might even turn into a solution might be /kick ckknight ;) |
| 12:43.46 | hiflyer | but watch his puppy |
| 12:45.00 | SunTsu | hiflyer: As long as his chinchilla doesn't attack me: Sure ;) |
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| 12:45.27 | profalbert | SunTsu: afraid of the pitbull? |
| 12:45.46 | SunTsu | profalbert: No, chinchillas are meaner |
| 12:47.21 | dieck_ | SunTsu: isn't mean one of the words you compare by "more"? inflexible or whatever they are called? |
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| 12:49.39 | ckknight | meaner works |
| 12:50.14 | profalbert | dieck_: ah, you mean irregular? |
| 12:50.54 | SunTsu | dieck_: I don#t exactly know, but "meaner" sounds quite OK to me -> mean, meaner, meanest |
| 12:51.17 | hiflyer | dictionary.com says mean, meaner, meanest |
| 12:54.30 | dieck_ | so it's just me :) |
| 12:56.00 | kenlyric | meaner than a coder forced to work in notepad |
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| 13:21.03 | Kalroth | &msg krka Yeah baby, I wont forget the lube next time |
| 13:21.13 | Kalroth | oops |
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| 13:35.34 | laeg | is there a way to suppress our character's yelling out of "i don't have enough rage/energy/mana"? |
| 13:36.17 | profalbert | laeg: errormonster |
| 13:36.28 | _rane_ | laeg: interface options |
| 13:36.31 | _rane_ | ah, no |
| 13:36.33 | _rane_ | sounds options |
| 13:36.34 | profalbert | laeg: or do you just mean the audio-effect? |
| 13:36.37 | _rane_ | and error speech |
| 13:38.06 | laeg | sound mainly |
| 13:38.14 | _rane_ | what i said |
| 13:38.21 | laeg | i really thought i went through all the options last night |
| 13:38.22 | laeg | brb! |
| 13:40.48 | laeg | profalbert, _rane_: is there a way to just suppress that one sound, rage/mana/energy, but keep things like 'out of range'? |
| 13:41.13 | profalbert | laeg: for the sounds i don't think so |
| 13:42.43 | laeg | ok thanks guys |
| 13:47.50 | Drundia | disable them all, monitor those error messages and play sounds yourself? |
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| 13:55.47 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 13:55.47 | CIA-43 | - color "--" and "++" with buff/debuff |
| 13:55.47 | CIA-43 | - added different coloring for fading buffs |
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| 13:57.50 | laeg | is it cool to ask general warcraft questions here? |
| 13:58.20 | Snago | It's cool to answer them |
| 13:58.28 | Snago | Only nubs asks questions ;P |
| 13:58.45 | VonhintenHOME` | probably depends on where people are at on the anal-o-scale at that moment |
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| 14:00.37 | laeg | i was just wondering with my level 62, or for that matter my level 6, should i be trying to get them into guilds that seem to have progresses furthest in instances or a guild just about to start kara? |
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| 14:02.19 | SunTsu | laeg: That depends on you realms progress. If there are lots of random karazhan runs, for twinks oder farm runs, I's aim for a guild further in progress. |
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| 14:05.17 | laeg | SunTsu: ok i will keep that in mind, tyvm :D |
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| 14:10.16 | laeg | i wonder if you create a character with the same name as another character you have migrating to the server will you get a free name change |
| 14:11.17 | cubicool | yes |
| 14:11.24 | cubicool | i've done it |
| 14:13.06 | laeg | nice :) |
| 14:13.20 | laeg | i bet loads of people didn't |
| 14:13.51 | laeg | i mean, i bet loads of people immigrated and paid for the name change |
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| 14:20.29 | SunTsu | .o0( I'd be glad to keep my name when transfering ) |
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| 14:40.21 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin ladies |
| 14:40.29 | Fisker- | slaps Pkekyo| around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:40.30 | Fisker- | slaps Pkekyo| around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:40.38 | Pkekyo| | cries |
| 14:40.49 | Fisker- | laughs |
| 14:45.26 | AckisWork | something smells fishy |
| 14:48.48 | Pkekyo| | Fisker- the fisherman smells fishy o.O' |
| 14:48.54 | Fisker- | hey |
| 14:48.55 | AckisWork | ehhh what does the model editting users getting spanked by blizz mean? |
| 14:48.57 | Fisker- | i'm going to destroy you |
| 14:49.02 | Fisker- | ? |
| 14:49.44 | Fisker- | They might be referring to the integrity check WoW does on certain files |
| 14:50.49 | profalbert | AckisWork: it refers to the ppl who apply "skins" to wow, (so that models look different), which can be used for cheating arena |
| 14:51.15 | AckisWork | aye I know what it means just wondering what blizz did |
| 14:51.35 | Fisker- | integrity/checksum checks on files |
| 14:51.52 | profalbert | Fisker-: that's new? |
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| 14:52.40 | Fisker- | no |
| 14:53.23 | profalbert | I had an error like this (wow-installation contains corrupted files, blah) when running it on a broken HDD |
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| 14:54.53 | AckisWork | I don't see why it was such a huge issue /shrug... they put herb nodes to have sparklies so you can see them, was there anything wrong with making my toon look like a worgen? |
| 14:56.46 | Fisker- | better to just say no across the board |
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| 14:57.11 | AckisWork | meh I'd rahter have the dev time invested in a new instance :P |
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| 14:59.37 | Seerah | skin changes haven't been allowed for a very long time now. But those kiddies that use the nude "patch" don't believe me |
| 14:59.55 | Fisker- | omg they still hav nudepatch? were+ |
| 15:00.25 | Hjalte | [SW]Dodge: Hey, it seems you fixed CoolDownButtons, but I just got an error when logging in using the latest version r76527: http://ace.pastey.net/89476 |
| 15:03.48 | CIA-43 | 03dodge * r76532 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/Cooldown_Manager.lua: CoolDownButtons: again a fix for petspam :/ |
| 15:05.01 | Hjalte | starlon: I'm wondering about something in Startip. It seems that when I target someone, before Startip shows the talent line, then it doesn't show the talent line at all, unless you detarget them and mouseover again. How come? |
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| 15:12.03 | DARKGuy | mornin' :D |
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| 15:12.26 | AckisWork | mornin |
| 15:12.32 | DARKGuy | hey AckisWork :D |
| 15:12.44 | AckisWork | sup? |
| 15:12.52 | AckisWork | http://ackis.myminicity.com :D lol |
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| 15:13.42 | Kuja^ | wtf is that anyway |
| 15:13.54 | Fisker- | holy shit |
| 15:13.56 | [SW]Dodge | Hjalte: bte, try it now. ^^ |
| 15:14.00 | Fisker- | the biggest ripoff in the history of games |
| 15:14.01 | [SW]Dodge | btw* |
| 15:14.07 | Fisker- | Not even Giana Sisters can compare to this |
| 15:14.28 | DARKGuy | Where, Fisker- ? |
| 15:14.43 | Fisker- | http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310683 |
| 15:14.45 | Fisker- | only at page 4 |
| 15:14.46 | DARKGuy | hey, Giana Sisters was cool :P |
| 15:14.51 | Fisker- | and it's ripped like 8 games and 1 movie |
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| 15:17.18 | Pkekyo| | plonk! |
| 15:17.46 | DARKGuy | Hahhahaahahha |
| 15:17.48 | DARKGuy | that's hilarious |
| 15:17.52 | DARKGuy | purely brilliant XD |
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| 15:18.47 | Fisker- | lol |
| 15:18.56 | Fisker- | it even stole video scenes from pirates of the carribean apparently |
| 15:19.25 | Fisker- | 13 games and 2 movies |
| 15:19.26 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 15:19.28 | Fisker- | that's fucking awesome |
| 15:19.32 | DARKGuy | they rule |
| 15:19.47 | Pkekyo| | christ...final exam on friday 13th :p |
| 15:20.01 | profalber1 | Pkekyo|: good luck :P |
| 15:20.28 | DARKGuy | you know, I was once part of the DarkBASIC community, and users always wanted to make the latest game when all they know was to make a cube and blocky models in GMax. They always took stuff from games, assets and textures and such, for tests... they created their own content later. |
| 15:20.32 | DARKGuy | But this.... this is just.. |
| 15:21.16 | Pkekyo| | profalber1: not only that, but the same day is also the 'drafts' for oral exams next week |
| 15:21.41 | DARKGuy | Fisker-: they need to make it online. It'll beat WoW. |
| 15:21.47 | DARKGuy | And PA. |
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| 15:21.55 | DARKGuy | Hey, they should take stuff from PA and WoW too. |
| 15:22.01 | Fisker- | they did |
| 15:22.06 | DARKGuy | really :| |
| 15:22.07 | Fisker- | the border is TBC i think |
| 15:22.09 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis |
| 15:22.10 | Fisker- | atleast somewhat |
| 15:22.21 | Fisker- | http://i25.tinypic.com/2qwfv52.jpg |
| 15:22.22 | Fisker- | see that |
| 15:22.24 | Pkekyo| | definitely not the same as the collector's ed |
| 15:22.38 | DARKGuy | I dunno, there's just so much stuff from all games everywhere |
| 15:22.41 | Pkekyo| | can't vouch for the regular ed though |
| 15:23.09 | DARKGuy | it looks like TBC yeah |
| 15:23.12 | DARKGuy | lol @ Diablo II border |
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| 15:23.20 | Pkekyo| | sweet, I had 1k FPS when I logged in just now :) |
| 15:23.48 | Fisker- | it's even funnier to see the ripped off assets with their own touch |
| 15:24.02 | Fisker- | http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/835/snap17yb0.jpg <-most realistic snow ever |
| 15:24.57 | Fisker- | poor poor publishers |
| 15:25.01 | Fisker- | they used money on it |
| 15:25.01 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 15:25.18 | Pkekyo| | :p |
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| 15:30.00 | DARKGuy | Haha |
| 15:30.06 | DARKGuy | That snow is like, PS 5.0 |
| 15:30.18 | Fisker- | Return to Elder Scrolls: World of Diablocrysis: Deadly shadows of the carribean 2008 imo |
| 15:30.46 | DARKGuy | hahahah |
| 15:31.00 | DARKGuy | the snow is photoshopped though |
| 15:31.32 | Fisker- | obviously |
| 15:32.12 | Chompers | Fisker- Fisker- Fisker- |
| 15:32.23 | Chompers | killed RoS yet? |
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| 15:33.21 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:33.36 | Fisker- | summer, aoc, exams killed our progress |
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| 15:34.10 | Chompers | :< |
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| 15:39.31 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: ping |
| 15:39.39 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: pong |
| 15:39.49 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: your macro is too long |
| 15:39.56 | Gnarfoz | o_O it's not |
| 15:40.25 | Gnarfoz | pm |
| 15:40.42 | Pkekyo| | YES IT IS |
| 15:40.46 | SunTsu | Why can't getting exalted with aldor/scrier not be as easy as getting exalted with shattered sun... |
| 15:41.32 | Gnarfoz | SunTsu: actually, it is. use the money from getting exalted w/ SSO (dailies = cash cow) and farm the auction house for aldor/scryer :p |
| 15:42.06 | SunTsu | Gnarfoz: Nah, I need that money to get a epic flying mount for my herbalist ;) |
| 15:43.36 | DARKGuy | Epic mounts ftw |
| 15:45.06 | Pkekyo| | I hate you :< |
| 15:45.06 | Pkekyo| | my alt doesn't even have an epic land mount yet |
| 15:46.09 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Oh, you'd even hate me more, if I told you that this will be my third toon with an epic flying mount ;) |
| 15:46.18 | Gnarfoz | got 2 with epic, one with just ground mount epic. lol. |
| 15:46.42 | [Ammo] | my level 1 levels faster than you guys though! |
| 15:46.52 | AckisWork | I have 3 toons w/ epic flyers, one of them has about 6 different types of epic flyers :P |
| 15:47.09 | VonhintenHOME` | I've got 2 and enough cash to buy 4 more =P |
| 15:47.33 | [Ammo] | I have one epic flying mount, and a debt of 2.5k gold |
| 15:47.34 | [Ammo] | :) |
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| 15:47.48 | Fisker- | i have 24k |
| 15:47.55 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:48.24 | SunTsu | AckisWork: the mounts itself ware not the problem ;) My main has three epic flying mounts, plus epic flight form ;) It's riding(300) ;) |
| 15:48.34 | Gnarfoz | I *know* it's fucking easy to get rich these days, but I'm just too lazy, hovering at 2.5k or something |
| 15:48.39 | SunTsu | s/ware/were/ |
| 15:48.46 | [Ammo] | getting rich means playing |
| 15:48.48 | [Ammo] | playing means time |
| 15:48.52 | [Ammo] | time is short |
| 15:49.01 | AckisWork | SunTsu: lol I know although the hyppogryph adds a little difficulty :P |
| 15:49.03 | Fisker- | time is neverending fool |
| 15:49.10 | Fisker- | well perhaps not neverending |
| 15:49.15 | [Ammo] | ends Fisker-'s time with a well aimed car |
| 15:49.19 | Fisker- | but a lot more than our small lifespans |
| 15:49.50 | AckisWork | Wow... Ammo's ammo was a car... ahahaha |
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| 15:50.15 | Fisker- | i almost lulzed to death |
| 15:50.22 | Fisker- | but then i realized i'm already dead |
| 15:50.27 | SunTsu | AckisWork: But having an herbalist/alchemist with an epic flying mount will cut down costs for pots immensely and will give a good income, I think ;) |
| 15:50.39 | AckisWork | you have no experienced what is called an "Ackis Joke" by my guild :P |
| 15:50.59 | AckisWork | SunTsu: aye lol... my hunter is a herb/miner w/ epic mount |
| 15:51.17 | AckisWork | rogue is engineer/skinner so I can farm everything w/ an epic |
| 15:51.43 | SunTsu | AckisWork: My hunter is a farming machine ;) engineering/mining ;) |
| 15:53.26 | AckisWork | hunters are fun lol got the bow off of archimonde last week lol |
| 15:54.22 | Kuosi | 0 chars with gathering proffs :o |
| 15:55.16 | AckisWork | ohh I forgot I created a branch of chatter |
| 15:55.38 | Fisker- | oooooh |
| 15:55.43 | Fisker- | so that's what the model edit thingy is about |
| 15:55.46 | CIA-43 | 03ananhaid * r76533 10BigWigs/Sunwell/KilJaeden.lua: |
| 15:55.46 | CIA-43 | BigWigs: |
| 15:55.46 | CIA-43 | - KilJaeden zhCN update.(all trigger and desc confirmed) |
| 15:55.50 | Fisker- | Blizzard are now warning people with it activated |
| 15:55.51 | Fisker- | owned |
| 15:56.09 | Pkekyo| | 17:48SunTsuPkekyo|: Oh, you'd even hate me more, if I told you that this will be my third toon with an epic flying mount <--- yes, yes I do...go die |
| 15:56.10 | Fisker- | though i'd rather prefer the "O hai, you just got banned for model editing, keke"-approach |
| 15:56.34 | SunTsu | AckisWork: Mine turned 70 some weeks ago, used it only to get all that primals for my clothies ;) I'm gonna play him end of the month, when my warlock is ready for SSC |
| 15:56.36 | Funkeh` | that means less money |
| 15:56.52 | Fisker- | no it doesn't |
| 15:56.57 | Fisker- | because cheaters are addicts |
| 15:57.03 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: No, I won't ;) |
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| 15:57.18 | Funkeh` | since when are model changers cheaters |
| 15:57.23 | Pkekyo| | what's this model edit thing? |
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| 15:57.31 | Fisker- | Since 2004 |
| 15:57.34 | Kuosi | allows custom mpq's |
| 15:57.40 | AckisWork | SunTsu: lol I haven't had a toon who hasn't had an epic mount minutes after hitting 70... my rogue had one about 1 minute after hitting 70 yet I forgot to train 70 spells for like two weeks |
| 15:57.43 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: You change local files to make things look different. locally. |
| 15:57.46 | Pkekyo| | Funkeh`: since someone figured out you could make a huge fucking red arrow above all hostile players? :p |
| 15:58.02 | Funkeh` | um no you cant |
| 15:58.04 | Pkekyo| | SunTsu: I know that...I'm wondering what sparked this exact discussion |
| 15:58.18 | Kuosi | if you gain some kind of advantage over modelediting you will most likely get bananed tho |
| 15:58.26 | Pkekyo| | if you can edit the models to look different, you can give them a huge red arrow as well |
| 15:58.35 | Funkeh` | no |
| 15:58.39 | Funkeh` | you can swap models |
| 15:58.44 | Funkeh` | you can't physical edit them |
| 15:58.50 | genetik- | it's not a new policy.. i know people who have gotten busted for using it in the past |
| 15:58.56 | Gnarfoz | you could, if you had a converter that created m2 models |
| 15:58.57 | Kuosi | it is possible to use custom models aswell Funkeh` |
| 15:58.58 | Gnarfoz | but there isn't one |
| 15:59.16 | Funkeh` | they broke the ability to physically edit them a few patches ago |
| 15:59.17 | Pkekyo| | Funkeh`: get your facts straight, you can edit it, and it has been done |
| 15:59.27 | Funkeh` | prove it |
| 15:59.30 | Fisker- | Funkeh` that's what the program does |
| 15:59.32 | Fisker- | and no |
| 15:59.39 | Fisker- | it didn't "break the ability to physically edit them" |
| 15:59.42 | Funkeh` | then shut the hell up |
| 15:59.46 | Fisker- | It made checks on the mpq files |
| 15:59.49 | Fisker- | to enforce legit files |
| 15:59.56 | Fisker- | This program disables that routine |
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| 16:00.04 | Pkekyo| | Funkeh`: prove that it has not been done and is entirely not possible |
| 16:00.21 | Funkeh` | Pkekyo|, it has been done, prove it's been done since the patch |
| 16:00.25 | DARKGuy | Any model can be edited- UNLESS they check for, like, model vertexes/faces/textures/polygons/etc.... it's all I know they could use to prove a model is "loegal" |
| 16:00.35 | Pkekyo| | I didn't say it've been done since whatever patch you're ranting about |
| 16:00.51 | Funkeh` | yes you did |
| 16:00.52 | AckisWork | I crossed my eyes and it looked like everyone was just saying penis over and over |
| 16:00.56 | Pkekyo| | no I didn't |
| 16:00.56 | Funkeh` | you said model editing can be done |
| 16:00.59 | Funkeh` | it can't |
| 16:01.13 | Funkeh` | maybe you should grab a dictionary or something |
| 16:01.33 | Funkeh` | there's a difference between model editing and model swapping |
| 16:01.41 | Pkekyo| | when you get medications for your arsehat syndrome I'll grab my dictionary :)( |
| 16:01.43 | CIA-43 | 03next96 * r76534 10YurrCombatLog/ (Locale-koKR.lua YurrCombatLog.toc): |
| 16:01.43 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 16:01.43 | CIA-43 | - Add locale koKR |
| 16:01.47 | Fisker- | Actually there isn't |
| 16:01.53 | CIA-43 | 03ackis * r76535 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BeastTrain.lua: |
| 16:01.53 | CIA-43 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:01.53 | CIA-43 | - Add some debug statements for me to test tonight |
| 16:01.53 | CIA-43 | - Dry-coded (code runs with luac -p) |
| 16:01.57 | Fisker- | You're just supplying an already existing model file |
| 16:02.09 | Fisker- | making your own model, and SWAPPING it with an existing one is also modelswapping |
| 16:02.12 | Pkekyo| | editing them to have an arrow over their head/swapping them out with a model with an arrow over it's head...same damn thing |
| 16:02.19 | Fisker- | but it's editing the core model |
| 16:02.22 | Funkeh` | model swapping requires no hard editing of files, model editing does |
| 16:02.29 | Funkeh` | you need to edit and repack a file |
| 16:02.29 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: did you add the -dry-coded thing to the tsvn template? :p |
| 16:02.34 | AckisWork | no |
| 16:02.40 | Fisker- | no of course not |
| 16:02.50 | Fisker- | Copying files don't require manually inputting text either |
| 16:03.01 | Fisker- | Doesn't mean that you can't make a file though |
| 16:03.10 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: it's in my commit.txt file at work here... no matter how little of change I do I'll let people know that it's been dry-coded |
| 16:03.28 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 16:03.31 | Fisker- | If you are swapping a model then you are using a new model, it as simple as that, WoW will accept any model as long as it is properly created, thus modelediting is possible |
| 16:03.33 | durcyn | because everyone cares |
| 16:04.02 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: since when is there a m2 exporter that creates working wow models? |
| 16:04.03 | Fisker- | What was done a couple of patches ago was adding checksums to the model files, and if they were mismatched, the game wouldn't start up |
| 16:04.10 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz i didn't say there was |
| 16:04.21 | Gnarfoz | you'd NEED one to edit *any* model?! |
| 16:04.37 | Fisker- | Yes |
| 16:04.48 | Fisker- | If you don't have a text editor, does that make text manipulation impossible? |
| 16:04.58 | Fisker- | Some people actually keep stuff private |
| 16:05.24 | Fisker- | The file can be altered, anyone with the knowledge to craft a m2 model can make a model and edit any model |
| 16:05.30 | Gnarfoz | sighs |
| 16:05.55 | Fisker- | don't sigh at me |
| 16:05.59 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 16:06.00 | Fisker- | wasn't me who started using semantics |
| 16:06.02 | Gnarfoz | destroys Fisker- |
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| 16:06.29 | Gnarfoz | if you don't care about semantics, you could as well not talk. they're a core part of any language you can use to discuss stuff. |
| 16:06.42 | Pkekyo| | I like brownies |
| 16:06.48 | Fisker- | i disagree with Pkekyo| |
| 16:06.58 | sylvanaar_work | you are all wrong |
| 16:07.16 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: screw you, brownies are awesome :p |
| 16:07.16 | Gnarfoz | there is no way to create a working m2 model. if there was, then it's being kept private to whoever found a way, thus making it a not widespread issue... but this seems widespread, so it can't be about model editing, right? |
| 16:07.57 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: the question is wether or not model editing is -at all possible-, not if it is the case this time 'round |
| 16:07.59 | Gnarfoz | and with model swapping (swapping an existing wow model for another existing wow model, because we just established that there are no custom models), there's no way to get "a big red arrow above enemy player's heads" |
| 16:08.31 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz that was the discussion |
| 16:08.36 | Fisker- | the discussion was editing |
| 16:08.47 | Fisker- | And it's a community |
| 16:08.49 | Gnarfoz | if you can edit, you can create (and the other way around) |
| 16:08.50 | Pkekyo| | basicly, you're saying that if you don't have a book, noone can ever read a book |
| 16:08.54 | Fisker- | like nogg-aholic |
| 16:09.00 | Gnarfoz | nogg-aholic doesn't even exist anymore, lol |
| 16:09.13 | Fisker- | it does actually |
| 16:09.16 | Fisker- | under a different name |
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| 16:09.23 | Fisker- | a private community |
| 16:09.31 | Fisker- | Regardless they have a working map editor for WoW |
| 16:09.33 | Gnarfoz | they're not exploiting live content, they're private |
| 16:09.38 | Fisker- | yes they are |
| 16:09.41 | Gnarfoz | (Glowing Mushroom) |
| 16:09.48 | Fisker- | The first WotLK movies were exploiting live content |
| 16:09.53 | Gnarfoz | and: maps are not m2 models, those are ADT files |
| 16:09.59 | Gnarfoz | that's ANOTHER separate thing |
| 16:10.04 | Fisker- | NOT THE POINT |
| 16:10.18 | AckisWork | facepalms you all. |
| 16:10.20 | Gnarfoz | they manipulated the login data stream to allow loggin in without an actual alpha-activated account |
| 16:10.34 | Gnarfoz | which blizzard fixed by removing the alpha servers from the realmlists |
| 16:10.47 | Gnarfoz | (and also checking the data stream and not just trusting the client) |
| 16:11.03 | Pkekyo| | linkage to said wotlk movies? |
| 16:11.04 | Fisker- | Again |
| 16:11.07 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: google |
| 16:11.10 | Fisker- | it's besides the point |
| 16:11.21 | Gnarfoz | the point being? |
| 16:11.26 | Fisker- | But the author said it was done by exchanging outland for northrend |
| 16:11.30 | Gnarfoz | bullshit |
| 16:11.34 | Fisker- | no |
| 16:11.35 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 16:11.38 | Fisker- | no |
| 16:11.49 | Fisker- | The point is that a utility, which very few people know or even have access to exists |
| 16:11.54 | Gnarfoz | -.- I was there when they were discussing the way they got in -.- |
| 16:12.10 | Gnarfoz | and that utility does what? |
| 16:12.14 | Fisker- | But the author said it was done by exchanging outland for northrend |
| 16:12.19 | Fisker- | That's not bullshit |
| 16:12.21 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 16:12.32 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz it edits world of warcraft maps |
| 16:12.36 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 16:12.43 | Gnarfoz | that's publicly available |
| 16:12.44 | Gnarfoz | AND |
| 16:12.46 | Gnarfoz | maps are ADT files |
| 16:12.47 | Gnarfoz | NOT m2. |
| 16:13.01 | Fisker- | It's not publically available |
| 16:13.01 | Fisker- | AND |
| 16:13.05 | Fisker- | NOT THE FUCKING POINT |
| 16:13.08 | Gnarfoz | try taliis, for example. |
| 16:13.28 | Fisker- | The point is that just because you have no utility to edit .m2 models doesn't mean that it doesn't exist |
| 16:13.36 | Fisker- | and that it's usage is not "widespread enough" |
| 16:13.44 | Gnarfoz | enough for WHAT |
| 16:13.44 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: THE POINT IS: that it is not commonly done or commonly accessible does not mean that it is IMPOSSIBLE |
| 16:14.02 | Fisker- | bingo |
| 16:14.08 | Gnarfoz | if it's not common, how the fuck did it make it into the fucking #wowace topic |
| 16:14.15 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 16:14.25 | Fisker- | what does that have to do with anything? |
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| 16:14.36 | Fisker- | Funkeh` claimed model editing was impossible |
| 16:14.42 | Pkekyo| | we're not saying that THIS is what is happening in THIS PARTICULAR CASE...we're just saying it IS fully possible to edit models |
| 16:14.48 | Gnarfoz | you're still talking about world map editing |
| 16:14.48 | Fisker- | it's not impossible, as model swapping is just another model, which could be blizzard or fanmade |
| 16:14.50 | Gnarfoz | not about model editing |
| 16:14.55 | Fisker- | No |
| 16:14.58 | Gnarfoz | but you're simply ignoring that fact xD |
| 16:15.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+m] by Funkeh` |
| 16:15.04 | Funkeh` | shut |
| 16:15.04 | Funkeh` | the |
| 16:15.06 | Funkeh` | hell |
| 16:15.06 | Funkeh` | up |
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| 16:15.31 | Funkeh` | sets mode -topic model editing |
| 16:15.42 | Funkeh` | sets mode +topic coding |
| 16:15.51 | *** mode/#wowace [-m] by Funkeh` |
| 16:15.53 | Pkekyo| | ... |
| 16:15.58 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz it's called setting up comparisons, so people can better understand because apparently "Just because you do not have a program for it, doesn't mean it's not possible" wasn't enough |
| 16:15.59 | Fisker- | end btw |
| 16:16.01 | Megalon | lets code something for model editing! |
| 16:16.02 | Gnarfoz | whatever |
| 16:16.10 | DARKGuy | that rocks Megalon |
| 16:16.16 | DARKGuy | hey I don't see what's the whole issue with it. |
| 16:16.24 | *** topic/#wowace by Funkeh` -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | S4 in 2 weeks (tm) |
| 16:16.24 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: this was entirely not what I was talking about, btw |
| 16:16.29 | DARKGuy | Somebody will end up reverse-engineering it like everyone has been doing with everything anyways. |
| 16:16.54 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy: if they did, they're taking their sweet time, it's been 4 years now |
| 16:17.20 | Seerah | huggles Funky |
| 16:17.21 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz: Meh, it's not impossible |
| 16:17.25 | DARKGuy | That's what I know :) |
| 16:17.25 | Gnarfoz | sure |
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| 16:19.24 | Funkeh` | she said walk this way |
| 16:19.26 | Funkeh` | talk this way |
| 16:19.31 | Funkeh` | huggles seerah |
| 16:20.05 | Seerah | now I have that song in my head :P |
| 16:20.31 | sacarasc | stab Funkeh`! the only way to get songs out of your head... |
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| 16:51.18 | Pkekyo| | ~dict sleet |
| 16:51.28 | Pkekyo| | ~dict 1 eet |
| 16:51.34 | Pkekyo| | ~dict 1 sleet |
| 16:51.42 | Pkekyo| | ~dict 3 sleet |
| 16:51.49 | Pkekyo| | oh |
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| 16:51.53 | CIA-43 | 03phyber * r76536 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua: |
| 16:51.53 | CIA-43 | ManaPerc: |
| 16:51.53 | CIA-43 | - Check that the players UnitPowerType() is 0 (mana) before working out a percentage, otherwise we get funny results when we're not in caster form as a Druid. |
| 16:51.53 | CIA-43 | - Perhaps do something with LibDruidMana to get around this later. |
| 16:52.14 | Gnarfoz | ~seen toadkiller |
| 16:52.26 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-18-176-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 9d 17h 36m 24s ago, saying: 'Ah kool, i will try that channel'. |
| 16:52.35 | Gnarfoz | damnit |
| 16:53.16 | laeg | when comparing two warrior weapons with the same dps, is the one with the higher or lower speed value better? |
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| 16:53.54 | Gnarfoz | 2h? dw? fury? ms? |
| 16:54.20 | Gnarfoz | if dw, mh or oh^^ |
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| 16:55.41 | DARKGuy_ | if it's dw, lower speed imho |
| 16:55.41 | laeg | hmm |
| 16:55.41 | laeg | what's dw? |
| 16:55.41 | Gnarfoz | dual wield? |
| 16:55.41 | DARKGuy_ | dual-wield |
| 16:55.41 | Megalon | it's always slower better, except for tanking |
| 16:55.41 | laeg | ahh no |
| 16:55.41 | Gnarfoz | which level are you at |
| 16:55.41 | laeg | he's only level 7 |
| 16:55.41 | AckisWork | someone linked a video with this song in it a few weeks ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNbFYSXON6Q |
| 16:55.42 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 16:55.42 | AckisWork | anyone have the url for that? |
| 16:55.42 | Gnarfoz | just use whatever and level on |
| 16:55.42 | laeg | look, it still makes a difference :) |
| 16:55.42 | laeg | i can make two different mh weapons with the same dps |
| 16:56.12 | Megalon | i think at level 7, the time it takes to craft that weapon you can make 2 levels instead :p |
| 16:56.19 | Gnarfoz | dps is what you want to be looking at, at that level |
| 16:56.26 | laeg | yes but they both have the same dps |
| 16:56.33 | Gnarfoz | then use whichever |
| 16:56.37 | laeg | have you guys got a bot so i can link the values of a weapon? |
| 16:56.42 | laeg | !weapon copper mace |
| 16:56.58 | laeg | grarfox: but they have a different speed |
| 16:57.00 | Megalon | at those levels you got no instant attacks, so dps is pretty much the only stat that matters |
| 16:57.02 | Pkekyo| | simple as,get the slowest weapon if you're not tanking (if stats and DPS are similar) |
| 16:57.08 | Gnarfoz | you don't have skills that force you into theorycraft-like thingies, yet |
| 16:57.13 | DARKGuy_ | : |
| 16:57.15 | DARKGuy_ | :/ |
| 16:57.24 | Pkekyo| | DW + WW + slow weapons = win :) |
| 16:57.30 | DARKGuy_ | how come slowest weapon is better |
| 16:57.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah, he's level 7, though |
| 16:57.44 | laeg | both are 3.9 dps but one is 1.9o speed and the other 2.10 |
| 16:57.46 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy_: high max dmg |
| 16:57.51 | DARKGuy_ | :*/ |
| 16:57.56 | laeg | ok so the slower one is the 1.9? |
| 16:58.00 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 16:58.03 | Gnarfoz | 2.1 is slower than 1.9 |
| 16:58.04 | laeg | which is contrary to what someone told me |
| 16:58.08 | DARKGuy_ | I've found to cause more dmg with two Swiftsteel Bludgeons than with Rising Tide+Heartless :/ |
| 16:58.14 | laeg | Gnarfoz: that's confusing beause the value is called speed |
| 16:58.16 | Gnarfoz | laeg: srsly, just level on. in the time discussing this, you could have made level 10 :D |
| 16:58.18 | DARKGuy_ | though RT and H hit a lot harder than the two SB |
| 16:58.21 | Gnarfoz | laeg: it's the time between swings. |
| 16:58.27 | laeg | if 2.1 is slower than 1.9 it should be called time |
| 16:58.35 | Gnarfoz | which is what the tooltip calls it, too, if you open your character screen |
| 16:58.41 | laeg | no |
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| 16:58.44 | Gnarfoz | yes? |
| 16:58.45 | laeg | the tool tip is 'Speed' |
| 16:58.46 | laeg | not time |
| 16:58.55 | Gnarfoz | attack speed. you attack every 2.1 seconds |
| 16:58.56 | DARKGuy_ | it's in seconds anyways |
| 16:58.58 | Pkekyo| | it's essentially swing-time... |
| 16:58.58 | Pkekyo| | 1.9 seconds between swings is faster than 2.1 seconds between swings |
| 16:59.00 | Gnarfoz | or you attack every 1.9 seconds |
| 16:59.22 | laeg | ok thanks guys |
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| 16:59.28 | Pkekyo| | pleasure, have fun |
| 16:59.32 | DARKGuy_ | What about PvP' |
| 16:59.32 | laeg | i will go level, just good to learn this stuff now ;) |
| 16:59.40 | DARKGuy_ | chars are harder to hit with a 2-h sloooooooooow weapon |
| 16:59.43 | DARKGuy_ | :( |
| 17:00.10 | Pkekyo| | DARKGuy_: that's where damage/swing-time calculations come in |
| 17:00.27 | Gnarfoz | also |
| 17:00.27 | DARKGuy_ | Pkekyo|: how so? |
| 17:00.29 | Gnarfoz | if you're pvping |
| 17:00.33 | Gnarfoz | you've got instant attacks |
| 17:00.34 | Gnarfoz | like MS |
| 17:00.36 | Pkekyo| | there's a reason PvP warriors aren't running 'round as DW fury, and it's not just MS |
| 17:00.38 | DARKGuy_ | damn, I need a "I suck at PvP" video for warriors :( |
| 17:00.45 | Pkekyo| | :p |
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| 17:01.07 | DARKGuy_ | I have MS |
| 17:01.15 | Pkekyo| | gz |
| 17:01.19 | DARKGuy_ | I'm 31/30/0 IIRC, I'm not at home |
| 17:01.28 | DARKGuy_ | but anyways :( |
| 17:01.29 | Gnarfoz | so? what do you care about your weapon speed? |
| 17:01.33 | DARKGuy_ | so Arms > Fury for pvp? |
| 17:01.34 | Gnarfoz | just MS the fuckers. :P |
| 17:01.39 | NivFreak | DARKGuy_: yes :P |
| 17:01.39 | Pkekyo| | DARKGuy_: duh? |
| 17:01.40 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 17:01.41 | DARKGuy_ | Dunno, I just think faster = more dmg over time |
| 17:01.45 | Pkekyo| | ebay much? :p |
| 17:01.45 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 17:01.54 | Gnarfoz | DPS = damage per second (which is: a unit of "time") |
| 17:02.01 | NivFreak | PVP for warriors is balanced around mortal strike |
| 17:02.06 | Gnarfoz | higher dps -> more dmg over time ^^ |
| 17:02.12 | NivFreak | burst is what wins pvp |
| 17:02.12 | DARKGuy_ | Hmmmmm |
| 17:02.16 | NivFreak | not dps |
| 17:02.35 | DARKGuy_ | How come then! my SB are 1.90 speed, and RT and H are 2.60 speed each. They hit harder than the SBs even though they're around 96.0 DPS |
| 17:02.44 | Gnarfoz | and if you can't burst because of your class, CC handles that by preventing heals :^^ |
| 17:02.46 | Pkekyo| | if you have one weapon that's 3.6 speed and one that's 2.8 speed, with the exactly same stats, the 3.6 speed one will yield bigger hits; which is what you want for PvP...like you pointed out earlier, it's hard to keep up sustained DPS in pvp, your enemies are moving 'roun |
| 17:02.47 | Pkekyo| | d |
| 17:02.52 | DARKGuy_ | and my SB are 100.1 DPS:S |
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| 17:03.19 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy_: that's DW -.- |
| 17:03.27 | DARKGuy_ | Yeah, that's why I go DW... if I can't hit with one I can hit with another o,o |
| 17:03.29 | NivFreak | archimonde == pain |
| 17:03.36 | Pkekyo| | DARKGuy_: there's some correlation between attack power and weapon speed |
| 17:03.42 | Pkekyo| | do NOT DW in pvp, it's utterly useless |
| 17:03.53 | Pkekyo| | there's a reason 2h MS is -the- PvP cookiecutter specc |
| 17:04.37 | Gnarfoz | it's kind of like pvping as deep combat for rogues ;> |
| 17:04.37 | AckisWork | DARKGuy: You made the news: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23851738-5001028,00.html lol |
| 17:04.59 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 17:05.10 | Pkekyo| | essential timing :) |
| 17:05.27 | DARKGuy_ | rofl Ackis |
| 17:05.34 | DARKGuy_ | ~lart AckisWork |
| 17:05.34 | purl | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at AckisWork |
| 17:05.39 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:05.50 | DARKGuy_ | that's sick tho =p |
| 17:06.00 | AckisWork | mmmhmmm |
| 17:06.01 | DARKGuy_ | Well, I kinda get pwned by rogues :( |
| 17:06.07 | DARKGuy_ | that's why I was initially going DW :P |
| 17:06.18 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 17:06.24 | Gnarfoz | you see that talent way down in the arms tree? |
| 17:06.28 | Pkekyo| | DARKGuy_: that's where you failed :p |
| 17:06.31 | Gnarfoz | it kind of helps smashing rogues to bits |
| 17:06.31 | DARKGuy_ | Second wind? |
| 17:06.33 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 17:06.36 | DARKGuy_ | ya I have it |
| 17:06.38 | DARKGuy_ | :P |
| 17:06.48 | Gnarfoz | and you dw? |
| 17:06.52 | DARKGuy_ | yes :S |
| 17:06.57 | Pkekyo| | now guess why 2h specc is in the Arms tree and the DW specc is in the fury tree? :) |
| 17:06.58 | Gnarfoz | what are you planning on doing with the rage, bloodthirst them? :D |
| 17:07.05 | DARKGuy_ | MS them to death :P |
| 17:07.11 | Megalon | he can't bloodthirst if he got second wind :p |
| 17:07.12 | DARKGuy_ | but it's hard when you have like, 3 rogues sapping you :P |
| 17:07.16 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: he's DWing with a 31/30 specc |
| 17:07.17 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: good point :D |
| 17:07.22 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: he's clinically insane |
| 17:07.26 | Megalon | 33/28, if he got 2nd wind ;) |
| 17:07.28 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: aye |
| 17:07.45 | durcyn | darkguy, did you actually read anything about warrior, or are you just making it up as you go along |
| 17:07.48 | Pkekyo| | Megalon: doesn't make much difference |
| 17:07.51 | DARKGuy_ | Yay I found the talents I got reccommended by a friend |
| 17:08.03 | Megalon | you are dwing in pvp with arms specc, your miss chance must be outrageous :S |
| 17:08.06 | Pkekyo| | let's see it DARKGuy_ |
| 17:08.09 | DARKGuy_ | durcyn: I've read and asked around, but it doesn't seems like its working :( |
| 17:08.28 | Pkekyo| | DARKGuy_: apparently you've been asking in the wrong places :p |
| 17:08.30 | DARKGuy_ | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LAMszhbogbzbZEzzhxx0c |
| 17:08.32 | DARKGuy_ | yeah :P |
| 17:08.47 | Megalon | dw.. specc |
| 17:08.51 | Megalon | : S |
| 17:08.53 | Pkekyo| | not as bad as I thought |
| 17:09.00 | Pkekyo| | except the DW specc, which is as utterly retarded as it gets basically |
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| 17:09.07 | AckisWork | another link for you DARKGuy: http://www.cinematical.com/2008/06/10/timur-bekmambetov-punks-the-world-with-viral-video/ iirc you linked the video a while ago :P |
| 17:10.17 | DARKGuy_ | rofl AckisWork, I <3 that video, crazy guy |
| 17:10.40 | DARKGuy_ | Ya, but I once tried going 2-H, and got annoyed because I couldn't hit anybody :P |
| 17:10.48 | Pkekyo| | DARKGuy_: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xbAbog0zbZVxzuMxRZc ask if you have any questions |
| 17:11.02 | DARKGuy_ | it was always miss, miss, parry, and I was getting hit in my armored nuts :( |
| 17:11.39 | Pkekyo| | DARKGuy_: hit-cap is lower for 2h weapons than DWing |
| 17:11.53 | Kuosi | Pkekyo|: lol healer spec |
| 17:11.58 | Kuosi | + thats horrible |
| 17:12.32 | Kuosi | is that supposed to be pvp spec? |
| 17:12.47 | Pkekyo| | Kuosi: I don't mind surviving in pvp :) |
| 17:13.08 | DARKGuy_ | looks o_o |
| 17:13.16 | Kuosi | yea well maybe its ok for 1v1 |
| 17:13.34 | Pkekyo| | exactly what's the problem with it? |
| 17:13.49 | Pkekyo| | granted, I've been out of PvP for a while, but can't see anything fundamentally wrong |
| 17:13.57 | Kuosi | it has 0/3 imp hamstring |
| 17:14.01 | Kuosi | it has full 2h spec |
| 17:14.04 | Kuosi | no blood frenzy? |
| 17:14.10 | Kuosi | or well 1/2 frenzy |
| 17:14.21 | Pkekyo| | no blood frenzy |
| 17:14.23 | Kuosi | imp demo? |
| 17:14.37 | Pkekyo| | I personally belive that imp. hamstring is shite |
| 17:14.47 | Kuosi | you obviously dont play arena then :p |
| 17:14.58 | Pkekyo| | and demo shouts helps alot against meelee teams |
| 17:15.01 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdAbqM0zbZVxzA0xob is what I'd do, probably, but my highest warrior is level 48 :P |
| 17:15.06 | Pkekyo| | not anymore, no...did arenas back in s2 |
| 17:15.40 | Kuosi | 1 blood frenzy > 1point in 2h spec anyway |
| 17:15.41 | Gnarfoz | how can you take anything else than imp. demo, btw, it's in tier 2, and the other choices are even worse |
| 17:16.05 | Pkekyo| | Kuosi: where's the math on that? |
| 17:16.46 | Gnarfoz | basically, *if* you crit enough, then giving up 1% dmg for 2% dmg would make sense |
| 17:16.51 | Kuosi | yes |
| 17:17.01 | Pkekyo| | you can't just figure 2% > 1% deep wounds is not by far up constantly |
| 17:17.22 | elite3vil | That's why you rend spam, duh! |
| 17:17.29 | DARKGuy_ | I don't really use Rend though, only for making rogues not vanish |
| 17:17.41 | Pkekyo| | in any kind of fight with sustained DPS I could agree to some extent, but for arenas, no... |
| 17:17.59 | Pkekyo| | elite3vil: rend hasn't been on my actionbars since wow 1.4, and it won't ever |
| 17:18.10 | DARKGuy_ | Hm, but Pkekyo|'s talent info seems really interesting o,o; |
| 17:18.12 | Kuosi | when you run at 36+% crit |
| 17:18.15 | elite3vil | Pkekyo|: Bit of sarcasm there. =P |
| 17:18.22 | Kuosi | blood frenzy tends to have pretty good uptime |
| 17:18.27 | Pkekyo| | Kuosi: because that's what everyone has :) |
| 17:18.47 | Gnarfoz | sarcasm detectors are on: LOW right now because we're trying to force basics onto someone who doesn't know them :D |
| 17:19.04 | elite3vil | heh, I stopped bothering a while ago |
| 17:19.06 | Pkekyo| | the fact that YOU have 36% crit in your s3 gear or whatever does not mean that everyone else does |
| 17:19.16 | elite3vil | I have a friend that used to DW with 2h spec |
| 17:19.24 | DARKGuy_ | :| |
| 17:19.34 | DARKGuy_ | I tried to. It's painful. |
| 17:19.37 | Pkekyo| | elite3vil: with the stupidity I've seen today I couldn't do anything BUT take that seriously :p |
| 17:20.52 | Pkekyo| | I think morons are having an international holiday or something...been running into complete idiots from A through Z today >.< |
| 17:20.55 | Kuosi | even with lower crit i would still keep frenzy |
| 17:20.56 | elite3vil | Eh, I saw a pally sword+boarding it up in AV, 5/8/x (where x = the rest of their talent points, and my brain is too tired to remember, or do them math =P) |
| 17:21.06 | Kuosi | simply because even hamstring crits activate it |
| 17:21.28 | Kuosi | and with mace/imp hs you spam that a alot anyway :O |
| 17:21.53 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.53 | Pkekyo| | - 13 |
| 17:21.53 | Pkekyo| | = 48 |
| 17:22.05 | elite3vil | Shh. |
| 17:22.09 | DARKGuy_ | Well considering that, I kind of have Deep wound show a lot on Parrot. BF could do something with that proc rate :P |
| 17:22.23 | DARKGuy_ | but I don't think 1-2% is much :S |
| 17:22.28 | Kuosi | imp hamstring is just too rofl when it procs |
| 17:22.39 | Kuosi | i have even dropped 2nd point from blood frenzy |
| 17:22.43 | Kuosi | and taken 3/3 spamstring |
| 17:23.01 | Pkekyo| | I actively PvPed 10hrs+ every day for two weeks with imp. hamstring and recorded proccs....SEVENTEEN |
| 17:23.32 | Pkekyo| | 1,2 proccs/day |
| 17:23.41 | Pkekyo| | 0,12 proccs/hour |
| 17:23.49 | Gnarfoz | yes, morons are obviously on the rise today. our football team for one, seems to be made of just morons today. :D |
| 17:24.00 | DARKGuy_ | lol Gnarfoz |
| 17:24.02 | DARKGuy_ | Pkekyo|: :| |
| 17:24.07 | Pkekyo| | football or american football? :p |
| 17:24.10 | Gnarfoz | football |
| 17:24.14 | DARKGuy_ | o_O I could live without imp. H |
| 17:24.31 | Gnarfoz | european championship etc |
| 17:24.37 | Pkekyo| | kek |
| 17:24.41 | DARKGuy_ | haha |
| 17:24.43 | DARKGuy_ | yeah :S |
| 17:24.47 | DARKGuy_ | I'm kinda shocked :( |
| 17:24.59 | DARKGuy_ | win dammit >< |
| 17:25.09 | Pkekyo| | can't even remember the last time I gave a flying fuck about football...it feels nice :) |
| 17:25.23 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13917.0 < i wonder if i should mention in that post that im the one that changed the mymedia.lua format that everybody seems to have such a hard time figuring out |
| 17:25.24 | kalahassi | i switched of television and radio, and even in wow-related channels you read about soccer... |
| 17:25.26 | Gnarfoz | I don't care about football, either, just commenting xD |
| 17:25.36 | elite3vil | Pkekyo|: Want to talk about stupidity... in one Brut kill, one of our shaman had mana spring totem down for 48 ticks, while the other 3 shaman in the raid had 148+.. The same shaman also was only 1% ahead of the spreists on healing. /wrists |
| 17:26.00 | DARKGuy_ | So considering I go 2-h, what would be the tactic I should use? right now mine is -> bloodrage+berserker rage -> charge/intercept -> MS -> Heroic -> Hamstring+Pummel -> repeat MS->H->HS+P -> die. |
| 17:26.12 | elite3vil | (I'm bored, so I'm running through some of our WWS reports) |
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| 17:26.31 | Pkekyo| | used to have a shammy like that back in kara...the GM's mom...when we called her out on it the GM had a hissyfit, they both gquit and transfered off :p |
| 17:26.40 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 17:26.50 | DARKGuy_ | lol |
| 17:26.52 | nevcairiel | how old was the GM? |
| 17:26.57 | Kuosi | DARKGuy_: use where ?:D |
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| 17:27.09 | DARKGuy_ | Kuosi: in PvP-ing :P |
| 17:27.13 | Kuosi | arena or bg play |
| 17:27.15 | DARKGuy_ | I usually do that and sometimes can kill mages/warlocks |
| 17:27.19 | DARKGuy_ | Bg/world |
| 17:27.24 | DARKGuy_ | I rarely do arenas :P |
| 17:27.27 | elite3vil | Sad thing is, one of our healers was in kara gear, while this guy was in 5/8 t6, and the kara geared shammy beat him on effective heal. >.> |
| 17:27.45 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: 20-something |
| 17:27.47 | DARKGuy_ | haha |
| 17:27.58 | Kuosi | becwarrior sadly aint the greatest 1v1 char atm |
| 17:28.21 | AckisWork | I was in a guild who the husband/wife were the gm's and their son played... they'd often mention on vent they were going afk for a quicky... with their son hearing that |
| 17:28.27 | Gnarfoz | we had a mage doing 138 fireballs in one Archimonde wipe/try, the next doing ~70, the lowest being on 33 |
| 17:28.42 | Zicon | ackiswork: Haha, awesome. |
| 17:28.45 | nevcairiel | you cant really compare dps on archimonde |
| 17:28.47 | elite3vil | Ackis: wow. |
| 17:28.50 | nevcairiel | some people play for more safety |
| 17:28.52 | nevcairiel | others risk their live |
| 17:29.17 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: archi is also luck based too |
| 17:29.21 | elite3vil | nevcairiel: I'm usually standing in a ring of fire, praying that tremor is down, and pulses. =P |
| 17:29.22 | sica | Gnarfoz: yeah, we had such a mage as well... he didn't do a single dispell in the whole fight |
| 17:29.31 | Gnarfoz | dispells looked the same. :D |
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| 17:29.48 | DARKGuy_ | AckisWork: hahahaha poor guy |
| 17:29.51 | Gnarfoz | also, that guy never dies, while the others... die to fall dmg |
| 17:30.03 | Kuosi | archi is serious businezz |
| 17:30.04 | elite3vil | I hate when mages die to fall dmg. |
| 17:30.12 | Gnarfoz | we resorted to handing out -dkp for that, by now |
| 17:30.14 | elite3vil | or anyone for that matter. |
| 17:30.20 | elite3vil | lol, we just stopped doing Hyjal |
| 17:30.25 | DARKGuy_ | AFK, lunch :$ |
| 17:30.27 | Kuosi | remember i once told this one guy to not press the tears too late on his first time |
| 17:30.32 | elite3vil | even though I kinad want my t6 prot helm >.> |
| 17:30.33 | Kuosi | well he hit the tears on the way up |
| 17:30.34 | AckisWork | gives DARKGuy something to eat. |
| 17:30.45 | DARKGuy_ | Yay, free food :D |
| 17:30.51 | DARKGuy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.59 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:32.17 | elite3vil | Thanks whoever added Kalecgos trash to Incubator btw. |
| 17:32.56 | elite3vil | Not that we actually needed a timer this week, but still, nice to have. |
| 17:33.39 | AckisWork | don't talk about kalecgos |
| 17:33.41 | AckisWork | :( |
| 17:33.42 | AckisWork | bad week |
| 17:33.53 | elite3vil | We finally had a good week |
| 17:33.55 | elite3vil | 2-shot him and Brut |
| 17:34.06 | elite3vil | Felmyst attempts tonight |
| 17:34.08 | elite3vil | *shudder* |
| 17:34.27 | AckisWork | we took like 5 attempts on kalec due to having half the raid be trials |
| 17:34.28 | elite3vil | watches his computer explode as the 30 skeletons are hitting him and he's trying to move out of the mist |
| 17:34.30 | AckisWork | 3 attempts on brut |
| 17:34.35 | AckisWork | 2 attempts of felmyst |
| 17:34.37 | Matrix110 | we had Brut yesterday without a single warrior no TC no DS |
| 17:34.37 | AckisWork | 2 on twins |
| 17:34.39 | Matrix110 | was fun :P |
| 17:34.48 | AckisWork | and then our pally tank emo logged after the second attempt of muru |
| 17:35.03 | Kuosi | Matrix110: well druid demo? |
| 17:35.09 | Kuosi | not much of a difference |
| 17:35.12 | Matrix110 | it is |
| 17:35.22 | elite3vil | I haven't had a night where I've emo logged yet, although we haven't tried Felmyst enough yet I don't think. |
| 17:35.53 | elite3vil | I think I'm going to end up buying a new computer just so I can tank Felmyst's adds. /cry |
| 17:35.54 | AckisWork | I've emo logged from two kara's :P |
| 17:36.05 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 17:36.08 | AckisWork | fell asleep during RoS before |
| 17:36.15 | elite3vil | I did kz on an alt last night.. took FOUR hours. |
| 17:36.16 | AckisWork | woke up and the guild was at hyjal with me in BT still |
| 17:36.26 | AckisWork | yah I would've emo logged from that |
| 17:36.32 | Pkekyo| | never emologged, but usually fall asleep atleast three times during raids |
| 17:36.52 | elite3vil | We didn't even wipe, dps was just so terribly slow. |
| 17:37.14 | elite3vil | Three healers ftl. |
| 17:37.40 | AckisWork | heh |
| 17:37.52 | elite3vil | I'm used to solo tanking it, and having a resto shammy heal me |
| 17:37.55 | elite3vil | and just piling in the dps |
| 17:38.19 | AckisWork | we've done 3 healer bear runs :P |
| 17:38.24 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 17:38.48 | elite3vil | Never gone on a bear run |
| 17:39.13 | elite3vil | guild started doing the clique thing after they got their first bear, and I wasn't invited for 10 weeks, and gave up =P |
| 17:39.18 | Kuosi | 3 healers doable if good dps np |
| 17:39.34 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:40.35 | Dashkal | *blinks* A PvE->PvP transfer is actually happening... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7116593044&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 17:42.05 | Seerah|away | Dashkal: isn't the first time |
| 17:42.14 | AckisWork | wtb hellgate london pre-order dye kit thingy :P |
| 17:42.16 | Dashkal | No? First time I've heard of it. |
| 17:42.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, they've always said they're doing stuff like that on a per-case base |
| 17:42.43 | Seerah | It's only allowed when Blizz says it is, for population imbalance or when a new pvp server first opens |
| 17:42.53 | Dashkal | mmm, fair enough. and if warcraftrealms is to be believed, this is something of an extreme case |
| 17:43.02 | Dashkal | 18:1 on a pvp? ewww |
| 17:45.08 | Gnarfoz | lol yeah, saw that, that data must be inaccurate to a certain extent, though |
| 17:45.41 | Dashkal | even then, it's gotta be pretty slanted to be _that_ far off in the stats. |
| 17:46.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah, there's probably still a major imbalance even if the data were more accurate |
| 17:46.20 | Gnarfoz | otherwhise they'd be not doing this :> |
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| 17:47.40 | elite3vil | ugh, bordom.. I'm going to DM to farm the belt of the archmage pattern. >.> |
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| 17:48.45 | Arrowmaster | elite3vil: farm me one too, i have 9 of the oger tannin in my bank |
| 17:49.32 | elite3vil | Arrowmaster: The only reason I'm doing this is so ARL will stop with the taunting. |
| 17:49.45 | Arrowmaster | got a mooncloth circlet? |
| 17:50.07 | elite3vil | Yep. |
| 17:50.10 | Xinhuan | elite3vil, i farmed diremaul about 80 times now |
| 17:50.11 | Arrowmaster | damn you |
| 17:50.13 | Xinhuan | (for my booty bay rep) |
| 17:50.20 | Xinhuan | and only saw that pattern once |
| 17:50.23 | Xinhuan | and no other epic pattern |
| 17:50.35 | elite3vil | Xinhuan: Thanks for the encouragement. |
| 17:50.40 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 17:50.42 | Arrowmaster | im the only tailor left on my realm i know of with gloves of spellpower |
| 17:50.46 | Xinhuan | i need 19 keys to exalted |
| 17:50.55 | Xinhuan | last 3 runs didn't drop keys :( |
| 17:50.58 | Xinhuan | to free the goblin |
| 17:51.13 | erzy | excuse me, is there any "unstealth weapon" command? |
| 17:51.15 | elite3vil | Debating which toon to farm it on. |
| 17:51.19 | erzy | for macros that is |
| 17:51.20 | Xinhuan | yes erzy |
| 17:51.24 | Xinhuan | look in keybinds |
| 17:51.26 | Arrowmaster | erzy: theres a toggle i think |
| 17:51.34 | Xinhuan | for "sheath/unsheath weapon" |
| 17:51.48 | elite3vil | Xinhuan: What class are you? |
| 17:51.50 | Xinhuan | mage |
| 17:51.50 | erzy | yeh, but you can't bind same key to 2 buttons |
| 17:51.51 | nevcairiel | keybinds dont help macro needs :p |
| 17:52.09 | Xinhuan | well the keybind is obviously hooked to some function() call |
| 17:52.12 | Arrowmaster | ToggleSheath() |
| 17:52.14 | Xinhuan | so just find out which one it is ;p |
| 17:52.27 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Activity_Functions |
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| 17:52.35 | Xinhuan | anyway, i'm out for the night, cya :) |
| 17:52.51 | erzy | thanks Arrowmaster |
| 17:54.19 | elite3vil | AckisWork: Sometimes I hate this mod. |
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| 17:55.08 | elite3vil | Makes me want to switch from aldor to scryer just for the stupid gem cuts |
| 17:55.19 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:56.40 | elite3vil | also makes me want to scream when I see "Red winter clothes"... knowing that I have to wait 6 months to get rid of the stupid thing on the list. |
| 17:57.05 | elite3vil | all because I was too lazy to do the quest. |
| 17:57.47 | Arrowmaster | i think i bought my pattern since i dont remember if it sent one to me or not due to that being extremely buggy |
| 17:58.46 | elite3vil | I still need gloves of spell mastery. |
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| 18:26.02 | AckisWork | anyone here play hellgate london :P |
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| 18:34.55 | Tinyboom | I need a good lightweight raidframe addon fast....any suggestions? something i don't have to configure much and not Grid |
| 18:35.10 | nevcairiel | sRaidFrames? |
| 18:35.13 | DARKGuy | aUF_UnitFrames ? |
| 18:35.14 | nevcairiel | PerfectRaid? |
| 18:35.18 | DARKGuy | Grid :D |
| 18:35.19 | DARKGuy | j/k |
| 18:35.22 | Tinyboom | lol |
| 18:35.25 | profalbert | Tinyboom: X-perl? |
| 18:35.28 | DARKGuy | EW |
| 18:35.31 | Tinyboom | ew |
| 18:35.40 | DARKGuy | Pitbull > XPerl any day |
| 18:35.54 | Cheads | perfectraid ! |
| 18:35.56 | Funkeh` | we're talking light |
| 18:36.00 | Tinyboom | auf to test then... :) |
| 18:36.04 | Funkeh` | you don't get light raid frames |
| 18:36.07 | profalbert | DARKGuy: indeed, but he wants something where he doesn't have to configure much |
| 18:36.14 | Funkeh` | certainly not xperl or pitbull |
| 18:36.17 | DARKGuy | profalbert: yeah :P |
| 18:36.18 | DARKGuy | true |
| 18:36.30 | profalbert | imho Pitbull requires a loooot of config |
| 18:36.35 | Cheads | perfectraid seems light.. and doesn't require much setup imho |
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| 18:37.17 | Funkeh` | <Funkeh`> you don't get light raid frames |
| 18:37.22 | DARKGuy | Yeah, I'd wish it didn't.... or at least, easier. |
| 18:37.28 | DARKGuy | Like, attach all raid frames together |
| 18:37.34 | DARKGuy | instead of moving them all manually >< |
| 18:37.38 | DARKGuy | sticky frames ftw. |
| 18:37.43 | Tinyboom | taking sraidframes since i know it already:p |
| 18:38.05 | Cheads | light... or less heavy =) |
| 18:39.36 | Chompers | Tinyboom: Grid |
| 18:39.46 | dylanm | PerfectRaid is the one. |
| 18:40.07 | Tinyboom | used grid, cba atm, using sraidframes for this raid:p thanks for the quick help guys/gals :) |
| 18:40.15 | dylanm | Set up labels for the stuff that interests you and you're good to go. |
| 18:40.33 | dylanm | Some interesting extras for it as well... I know Shadowed made an IncomingHeals thing. |
| 18:40.50 | Shadowed | wha |
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| 18:43.37 | CIA-43 | RBM: |
| 18:43.37 | CIA-43 | - Minor bug fixes |
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| 18:43.37 | CIA-43 | - Reverted SpamBlock Module Name. |
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| 18:46.21 | kadrahil | any raiding survival hunters around? |
| 18:47.23 | laeg | is there a way to check who has the most lifetime honour kills on a server? |
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| 18:50.59 | Pkekyo| | hack everyone's accounts and check manually? :p |
| 18:51.28 | laeg | :D |
| 18:51.31 | Pkekyo| | (Disclaimer: Pkekyo| does in no way, shape or form condone the hacking of accounts, and the preceeding reply was made as an act of jest) |
| 18:51.52 | laeg | so you don't wholeheartedly endorse this product and/or enterprise? :( |
| 18:53.02 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 18:54.39 | Pkekyo| | To compensate for the previous dull and highly serious sentance: Boingo Boingo Whoopsy Knickers |
| 18:56.39 | Pkekyo| | "back in the days when main characters didn't need to have biceps bigger than their faces, and bump-mapping was something cartographers did to their wifes..." |
| 18:57.03 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
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| 18:59.30 | laeg | my gnome warrior doesn't have big biceps |
| 18:59.41 | laeg | big things small packages, baby |
| 19:00.32 | Pkekyo| | baby? my tauren is just about 50 times your size |
| 19:01.46 | laeg | i read tauren's make the best tank from their racial or base stats or sumfink |
| 19:02.50 | Kuosi | and pretty aweysome for pvp aswell |
| 19:02.56 | Pkekyo| | yeah, been some discussion about that on the EU warrior forums |
| 19:03.01 | Kuosi | as you can hit stuff through pillars while other wars cant :o |
| 19:03.04 | Pkekyo| | the 5% hp seems to be the best scaling racial |
| 19:03.12 | Pkekyo| | lol, indeed |
| 19:03.14 | VonhintenHOME` | 5% hp is huge, especially for a feral |
| 19:04.11 | VonhintenHOME` | literally an extra 1k - 1.2k+ HP for well geared druids |
| 19:04.24 | nevcairiel | base hp or buffed hp? |
| 19:04.49 | VonhintenHOME` | not sure actually, I was assuming buffed |
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| 19:04.59 | nevcairiel | buffed would be too insane really |
| 19:05.27 | Pkekyo| | unbuffed you mean? |
| 19:05.41 | VonhintenHOME` | so maybe not even the dire bear would have an impact on it |
| 19:05.43 | nevcairiel | base hp is nacked |
| 19:05.51 | Kuosi | no the 5% actually scales... |
| 19:06.03 | Pkekyo| | it does |
| 19:06.21 | Pkekyo| | not with buffs though? |
| 19:06.26 | VonhintenHOME` | so you're saying it's like kings, 5% after the fact |
| 19:06.42 | Kuosi | its definetly not from base stam the 5% |
| 19:06.45 | Pkekyo| | not quite sure, but I -think- it scales with hp from gear |
| 19:06.50 | Kuosi | but dont think its from total buffed either |
| 19:08.33 | Diao | it scales with everything. |
| 19:08.49 | Pkekyo| | awesome :) |
| 19:09.13 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, so 1k to 1.2k+ HP bonus for being a fucking cow |
| 19:09.23 | nevcairiel | they need to nerf that |
| 19:09.24 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 19:09.31 | Pkekyo| | bovine does not automatically translate into cow |
| 19:09.38 | Pkekyo| | and no, sod off nevcairiel, it's fine |
| 19:09.40 | Diao | they need to nerf human weapon expertise racial |
| 19:09.43 | Diao | or share it |
| 19:09.53 | Diao | it's too good considering every single good weapon in endgame is either a mace or sword |
| 19:09.58 | nevcairiel | they should remove all racials that affect combat behaviour |
| 19:10.01 | VonhintenHOME` | yes, every race should have good weapon skills |
| 19:10.15 | Pkekyo| | I want to be able to wield trees |
| 19:10.15 | Diao | all the best weapons in the game have traditionally been sword or mace |
| 19:10.23 | Diao | not to mention sword/mace spec >>> axe spec by far |
| 19:10.28 | Diao | for warriors |
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| 19:10.35 | CIA-43 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 19:10.35 | CIA-43 | - Updated Spell List |
| 19:10.36 | CIA-43 | - DR Tracking Bug Fixes With Canceling Proper Bars properly |
| 19:10.36 | CIA-43 | - Code Cleanup |
| 19:10.38 | VonhintenHOME` | my dwarf rogue got screwed on the expertise |
| 19:10.38 | Kuosi | not to mention |
| 19:10.39 | Kuosi | PERCEPTIOn |
| 19:10.52 | Diao | yeah but that's a pvp thing |
| 19:11.00 | Kuosi | true |
| 19:11.03 | Diao | perception is like a +50 win chance against stealth |
| 19:11.08 | Diao | in arena |
| 19:11.34 | VonhintenHOME` | shouldn't be that much |
| 19:11.52 | Diao | if you're a human warrior |
| 19:12.00 | Diao | be mounted |
| 19:12.07 | Diao | charge straight at their entrance |
| 19:12.14 | Diao | partway there, use perception |
| 19:12.15 | Diao | and bam |
| 19:12.18 | Diao | you'll catch anyone in stealth |
| 19:12.25 | Diao | guaranteed first hit |
| 19:12.42 | Kuosi | rmp mirror |
| 19:12.44 | Kuosi | vs human teams |
| 19:12.46 | Kuosi | TEH JOY |
| 19:12.57 | VonhintenHOME` | not true, smart rogues stealth and sprint immediate toward the enemy for a sap |
| 19:13.01 | Kuosi | i have to blow vanish every game right at start |
| 19:13.17 | Diao | so basicaly |
| 19:13.18 | Diao | basically* |
| 19:13.19 | Kuosi | and sprint open on mage |
| 19:13.26 | Diao | you're blowing a 5 min cd to counter a 2 min cd |
| 19:13.29 | Diao | that's great |
| 19:13.31 | Kuosi | yes |
| 19:13.55 | Kuosi | makes you use prep earlier aswell |
| 19:13.57 | VonhintenHOME` | they're not gonna need to use perception again |
| 19:13.59 | sica | the opener is quite important in rmp mirrormatches |
| 19:14.04 | VonhintenHOME` | and isn't it 3min? |
| 19:14.10 | Kuosi | yes the opener is 50% of the match |
| 19:14.14 | Diao | i dunno |
| 19:14.20 | Diao | but i do know some people use perception more than once |
| 19:14.30 | Diao | i'd use it |
| 19:14.32 | Diao | in mid-fight |
| 19:14.42 | Diao | esp when i'm getting a rogue low |
| 19:14.44 | Kuosi | well surely it can be ok in 2v2 |
| 19:14.44 | Diao | prepare for vanish |
| 19:14.47 | Kuosi | where games last longer |
| 19:14.49 | Kuosi | ppl restealth |
| 19:14.50 | Kuosi | etcf |
| 19:14.52 | Diao | yeah |
| 19:14.56 | Diao | or druid restealth |
| 19:15.02 | Diao | you can knock them out easily |
| 19:15.09 | Diao | with perception |
| 19:15.11 | Kuosi | but i can tell |
| 19:15.13 | Kuosi | nothing is more fun |
| 19:15.17 | Kuosi | than rmp mirror |
| 19:15.24 | Kuosi | vs pve gear human rogue with dual glaives |
| 19:15.27 | Kuosi | SRY GUYS OUTPLAYED |
| 19:15.29 | VonhintenHOME` | when I vanish, I'm assuming I'm gonna get uncovered again, so I use it to cheap shot as fast as possible |
| 19:15.33 | Kuosi | -23rating thanks bye |
| 19:16.41 | Diao | but enough about perception |
| 19:16.47 | Diao | 5 expertise with swords is just unfair |
| 19:17.37 | VonhintenHOME` | if I could switch to a human from dwarf, I would |
| 19:17.51 | Diao | i'd trade my orc for a human too |
| 19:17.55 | Diao | being limited to axes sucks |
| 19:18.01 | VonhintenHOME` | orc is retarded in PVP though |
| 19:18.14 | VonhintenHOME` | good luck landing on stun on an orc |
| 19:18.15 | Diao | lol |
| 19:18.18 | Diao | it's not that bad |
| 19:18.31 | Diao | i seem to get less resists on orcs than i do others |
| 19:18.47 | VonhintenHOME` | yes it is.. it's like spriest blackout, says some percentage, but ends up being waaaay more often |
| 19:18.56 | laeg | i picked a gnome warrior because although human's are a bit better for tanking with there extra weapon skill i felt escape artist was the best warrior pvp racial, what do you guys think? |
| 19:18.57 | Diao | i dunno |
| 19:18.58 | VonhintenHOME` | orcs resist my stun like 80% of the time |
| 19:19.04 | Diao | maybe because i don't play a rogue |
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| 19:19.14 | Kuosi | escape artist is surely best for allies |
| 19:19.20 | Diao | but my stuns land just as often on orcs as they do on anyone else |
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| 19:19.24 | CIA-43 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 19:19.24 | CIA-43 | - minor quest data update |
| 19:19.24 | CIA-43 | - add more checking for Quixote |
| 19:19.27 | Diao | and when i'm arenaing it seems like i eat every stun and don't resist any |
| 19:19.50 | Kuosi | so instead of 15% stun resistance |
| 19:19.51 | Diao | EA is great for pvp, but i think perception is stronger these days |
| 19:19.53 | Kuosi | orc warrior has 30% |
| 19:19.55 | Kuosi | bohoo |
| 19:20.03 | Diao | especially against all the rogue teams |
| 19:20.11 | Diao | actually most warriors don't max stun resist talent |
| 19:20.12 | Kuosi | nah i dont perception on warrior that strong |
| 19:20.18 | Kuosi | you can actually see where the warrior is |
| 19:20.22 | Kuosi | and somewhat avoid him |
| 19:20.31 | Diao | perception + mount is pretty hard to avoid unless you're sprinting |
| 19:20.33 | Kuosi | all warriors max it on pvp |
| 19:20.40 | Kuosi | you can sap those wars :o |
| 19:20.52 | CIA-43 | 03lahow * r76543 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/Cartographer_QuestInfo.toc: |
| 19:20.52 | CIA-43 | Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 19:20.52 | CIA-43 | - update version |
| 19:20.53 | Kuosi | sprint sap |
| 19:21.03 | Kuosi | before he gets offmount + pops bers rage |
| 19:21.08 | Kuosi | you're out of his sight anyway |
| 19:21.31 | Diao | i dunno |
| 19:21.35 | Gnarfoz | gotta observe if he's not already in berserker stance on the mount |
| 19:21.37 | Diao | i don't have experience as rogue v hwarr |
| 19:21.38 | Gnarfoz | if he is, you're fucked |
| 19:21.47 | Diao | but in mirror war/dru |
| 19:22.01 | Diao | it's all luck in avoiding the warr for that 20 sec |
| 19:22.09 | Kuosi | in mirror? |
| 19:22.15 | Kuosi | its about your war charging the human war asap |
| 19:22.19 | Kuosi | not very hard |
| 19:22.27 | Diao | usually |
| 19:22.29 | Diao | both warrs charge each other |
| 19:22.33 | Kuosi | yep |
| 19:22.35 | Diao | and then whoever catches druid first |
| 19:22.50 | laeg | Diao: perception was a major reason a human warrior was a contender to my gnome |
| 19:22.51 | Kuosi | then its up to rng ot decide the match |
| 19:22.55 | laeg | definitely not to be sniffed at |
| 19:22.55 | Kuosi | let the spamstring fest begin |
| 19:22.58 | Diao | lol |
| 19:23.01 | Diao | when i play mirrors |
| 19:23.07 | Diao | if the human warr has perception up |
| 19:23.11 | laeg | but i went with a racial i can use against all classes, not just rogues and druids |
| 19:23.18 | Diao | and my druid stays in range to heal but still in stealth |
| 19:23.28 | Diao | oftentimes the warr will see him in stealth |
| 19:23.32 | Kuosi | heals have 40yard range |
| 19:23.34 | Diao | and run over to intercept |
| 19:23.40 | Kuosi | your druid is just bad then |
| 19:23.42 | Diao | yeah but you can't jsut be like "oh 40 yards" |
| 19:23.49 | Diao | have to pillar :p |
| 19:23.49 | laeg | also i think ea has a 1.5 second cool down which is criminal :) |
| 19:24.01 | Diao | ea is on gcd |
| 19:24.04 | Diao | due to being instant cast |
| 19:24.06 | Kuosi | well i can tell if the enemy druid is on my intercept range |
| 19:24.07 | Kuosi | easily |
| 19:24.09 | VonhintenHOME` | 1.5min I thought |
| 19:24.09 | laeg | gcd? |
| 19:24.13 | Diao | global cooldown |
| 19:24.15 | laeg | no it's 1.5 secon ds |
| 19:24.25 | Diao | it activates the gcd when used |
| 19:24.26 | Kuosi | yes escape artist is 1.5min cd |
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| 19:24.37 | Kuosi | or |
| 19:24.40 | Kuosi | hum |
| 19:24.41 | laeg | it's seconds! |
| 19:24.42 | Kuosi | is it anymore |
| 19:24.48 | Kuosi | well yea it triggers gcd |
| 19:24.59 | Diao | ea is a 1 min 45 sec cd |
| 19:25.00 | Arrowmaster | bloodfury doesnt =D |
| 19:25.00 | Diao | it got nerfed |
| 19:25.03 | Gnarfoz | it triggers GCD AND 1min45sec cd. |
| 19:25.07 | Kuosi | Arrowmaster: true |
| 19:25.13 | Kuosi | its good for gibbing stuff |
| 19:25.15 | Diao | however |
| 19:25.17 | laeg | wowhead says it's 1.75min cd |
| 19:25.20 | Diao | that's because bloodfury has a debuff |
| 19:25.25 | Diao | ea has no downside to it |
| 19:25.27 | Diao | therefore it is on gcd |
| 19:25.30 | laeg | woah i thought it was a few seconds |
| 19:25.42 | erica647 | Is there a known issue with statblocks_dps? It doesn't seem to be doing anything at all since the last update |
| 19:25.43 | laeg | downside is you have to look like a gnome :) |
| 19:25.50 | Diao | it would be ridiculously op if you could cast ea every few sec |
| 19:25.52 | Arrowmaster | not sure but i didnt think troll zerking had a gcd either |
| 19:25.52 | laeg | i made my gnome bald and as ugly as possibly |
| 19:25.54 | Gnarfoz | pink-haired gnome with ponytails > all |
| 19:26.01 | Diao | troll has a downside too |
| 19:26.04 | Diao | you hve to be a troll ;) |
| 19:26.17 | Diao | jk, but really it does have a downside: your hp has to be lowered |
| 19:26.26 | Arrowmaster | ive deleted all my trolls and remade them as orcs |
| 19:27.02 | Kuosi | modelswapped my orc for draenai female for a bit |
| 19:27.06 | Diao | i liked the pre-bc version of EA better tbh |
| 19:27.07 | Kuosi | looks cool for a while |
| 19:27.08 | Diao | on my gnome warrior |
| 19:27.13 | Kuosi | but it seemed to bug my melee range =( |
| 19:27.14 | Diao | 0.5 sec cast on EA and 1 min cd |
| 19:27.18 | Diao | but no gcd since it had a cast time |
| 19:27.40 | Kuosi | y |
| 19:27.55 | laeg | Diao: how does ea lower hp? |
| 19:28.08 | laeg | the ud racial which breaks fear is imba also |
| 19:28.09 | Diao | it doesn't; i was talking about berserking |
| 19:28.10 | Diao | for trols |
| 19:28.12 | Diao | trolls* |
| 19:28.13 | laeg | ah cool |
| 19:28.15 | Pkekyo| | TITTIES! HORSESHITE! BOLLOCKS! |
| 19:28.32 | laeg | Pkekyo|: where are you from that you say shite instead of shit? |
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| 19:28.53 | DARKGuy | netspeak land |
| 19:29.00 | laeg | i thought shite was just an irish thing |
| 19:29.04 | Pkekyo| | norway |
| 19:29.05 | laeg | (they're after my luck charms) |
| 19:29.08 | laeg | uh huh |
| 19:29.20 | Pkekyo| | it's "the're after me luckee charms"...ish :p |
| 19:30.27 | Pkekyo| | but yeah, my fancypants lingo is somewhat inspired by irish and british english...which is the dog's danglies imo |
| 19:31.09 | Kuosi | http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=draewarzt5.jpg |
| 19:31.12 | Kuosi | looks cool! |
| 19:31.24 | Pkekyo| | yes I do |
| 19:32.48 | Pkekyo| | I'm getting rrrrrrrrrrraped by my final exam :< |
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| 19:38.15 | laeg | Kuosi: what am i looking at here exactly? |
| 19:38.37 | laeg | Pkekyo|: put some of your talent points in study *badumtsk* |
| 19:38.49 | Pkekyo| | laeg: wish I could...really do |
| 19:39.40 | Kuosi | laeg: was just to point out that draenai female wars look pretty cool |
| 19:43.20 | Arrowmaster | he was pointing out that his account may be banned anytime |
| 19:43.45 | Kuosi | Arrowmaster: afaik engineering is still not bannable offence |
| 19:44.02 | Arrowmaster | yes it is |
| 19:44.04 | Arrowmaster | very much so |
| 19:44.16 | Arrowmaster | since you have to edit the mpq's |
| 19:44.29 | Arrowmaster | and warden notices that instantly |
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| 19:45.33 | Pkekyo| | WTB somewhat but not entirely shitty laptop |
| 19:45.43 | Neya | there are some changes to the mpq's that you can do and get away with, untill they are completly scanned that is. |
| 19:45.54 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 19:46.08 | NeoTron | it was better before |
| 19:46.08 | Arrowmaster | no warden can notice instantly without needing to fully scan them |
| 19:46.21 | Kuosi | Arrowmaster: what I meant is you can proc draenai model on your char from using engineering trinkets -.- |
| 19:46.30 | NeoTron | when forsaken were undead and immune to fear, unable to drown, but shackleable and turn undeadable etc |
| 19:46.47 | NeoTron | unsheepable too |
| 19:46.48 | Arrowmaster | Kuosi: but thats not engineering thats mpq editing, i can tell |
| 19:47.34 | Pkekyo| | YES! I CAN TELL FROM THE PIXELS! |
| 19:47.35 | Arrowmaster | the giberish named lowbie draenai next to the mailbox gives it away |
| 19:47.46 | Arrowmaster | orc spammer |
| 19:47.55 | Kuosi | yup |
| 19:48.16 | Pkekyo| | which reminds me - why are spammers always orcs? :p |
| 19:48.25 | Arrowmaster | faster to run to org |
| 19:48.25 | Kuosi | we usually have trolls |
| 19:48.28 | NeoTron | starting area position |
| 19:48.29 | Kuosi | yup |
| 19:48.40 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 19:48.54 | Arrowmaster | orcs are less likely to get stuned during the run! |
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| 19:51.48 | oxEz | Hi. I just did an update of all my installed addons using Wow Ace Update, but since then none of my Ace2 addons are working. I tried reinstalled them all, but no go =/ What could have gone wrong? |
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| 20:01.34 | AckisWork | anyone play a holy pally here? |
| 20:02.08 | AckisWork | if so, does a heal multiplier of 1.12 make sense to you at all? |
| 20:02.24 | nevcairiel | 12% ? |
| 20:02.25 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 20:02.51 | AckisWork | aye |
| 20:02.58 | NeoTron | damn. A friend sold The 2 Ring for 5000g |
| 20:03.13 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, wtf |
| 20:03.19 | Kuosi | err |
| 20:03.22 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: "Healing Light" talent, 4% with 3 levels = 12 |
| 20:03.23 | VonhintenHOME` | it's a pretty nice ring for a hybrid |
| 20:03.25 | NeoTron | not a bad ring but not a 5000g ring :P |
| 20:03.41 | Kuosi | well what is it good for? :D |
| 20:03.43 | VonhintenHOME` | not sure where it ranks for each respective hybrid |
| 20:03.54 | AckisWork | thanks nevcairiel |
| 20:06.15 | VonhintenHOME` | Note, Healing Light only seems to apply to Holy Light and Flash of Light, Holy Shock and LoH may not be affected |
| 20:06.23 | Primer | Anyone know how I'd do this in a macro: If my target is friendly, cast foo, otherwise if I have no target or my target is unfriendly, cast foo on me |
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| 20:13.58 | VonhintenHOME` | Primer, I'm no macro genius, but maybe: /cast [help] foo [harm] foo_on_you; foo_on_you ? |
| 20:16.14 | Primer | tries |
| 20:17.12 | Primer | thing is, how do you specify foo_on_me? |
| 20:17.22 | SunTsu | Primer: /cast [help] foo; [target=player] bar |
| 20:17.27 | SunTsu | Should do the trick |
| 20:17.30 | Primer | ok |
| 20:18.54 | VonhintenHOME` | I was assuming the cast would automatically happen on you, if the other conditions weren't met |
| 20:19.02 | Primer | well, it's a pet cast |
| 20:19.24 | Primer | /cast [help] Devour Magic; [target=player] Devour Magic |
| 20:19.28 | SunTsu | VonhintenHOME`: No, you have to tell with [target=player] or in that case [target=pet] |
| 20:19.29 | Primer | fel hunter |
| 20:19.46 | SunTsu | Primer: wowwiki has a great warlock macro section |
| 20:19.48 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76544 10BigWigs/Sunwell/KilJaeden.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/KilJaeden: Disable shadow debuff bars by default |
| 20:19.53 | VonhintenHOME` | is target=player a condition or a specifier for the cast? |
| 20:19.59 | Gnarfoz | specifier |
| 20:20.04 | Kuosi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:20.16 | Primer | I had it working for just targeting me, but not for when I wanted it to devour magic from a friendly |
| 20:20.16 | SunTsu | VonhintenHOME`: No, it's short for /target player and /cast bar |
| 20:20.34 | Gnarfoz | not 'no', I answered his question already. :p |
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| 20:20.47 | Primer | Kuosi: can't do mouseover casting on my lock, move around too much |
| 20:20.57 | VonhintenHOME` | ah, I always thought it was a condition, like if target=player, do this |
| 20:21.05 | Primer | yeah, that's the thing that gets me |
| 20:21.16 | Primer | aren't conditionals also enclosed in [] ? |
| 20:21.21 | Kuosi | Primer: sounds odd, I do on priest and I run 90% of arena game anyway :o |
| 20:21.23 | Primer | I have mouseover macros for my priest |
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| 20:21.33 | Gnarfoz | Primer: both are |
| 20:21.41 | Primer | Kuosi: I couldn't live without mouseover macros for healing |
| 20:21.51 | Kuosi | i use for dispel aswell |
| 20:21.56 | Gnarfoz | but specifiers specify something by using ... well, = |
| 20:22.00 | Kuosi | other than alt modifier for self dispel |
| 20:22.07 | Primer | everything I cast on my holy priest is a macro |
| 20:22.17 | Kuosi | i dont pve on priest tho |
| 20:22.36 | EvilJohn- | over grid? |
| 20:22.56 | Kuosi | but ye i have everything on mouseover for healing |
| 20:23.02 | Kuosi | shield,bom too |
| 20:23.05 | Kuosi | and even sw:d |
| 20:23.08 | Primer | over pitbull! |
| 20:23.30 | NeoTron | sigh. bug in magic marker because it messes up another addon (translation: an addon has a bug in an AceTimer callback and AceTimer happens to be embedded in Magic Marker) |
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| 20:25.22 | Kuosi | never been arsed to setup pitbull :o |
| 20:25.23 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: i can fix that |
| 20:25.27 | Kuosi | stil rolling with ag ones |
| 20:25.51 | Arrowmaster | convert all libraries to use loadstring so you can hide the file path |
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| 20:27.34 | Primer | I love pitbull, but my one complaint is its inability to have different layouts (read: where the groups of unit frames are, buffs, debuffs, etc, not only what unit frames look like) per type of raid |
| 20:28.28 | Primer | as in "I want a 10 man raid to have only groups 1 and 2 show on my left side one on top of the other, with all buffs below the unit frame and all debuffs to the right" |
| 20:28.42 | Kuosi | also pitbull hogs memory |
| 20:28.51 | Kuosi | not that i'm rly suffering for bad fps or anything |
| 20:28.53 | Funkeh` | so does wow |
| 20:28.58 | Funkeh` | why do you still run it |
| 20:29.05 | Kuosi | good question! |
| 20:29.21 | Primer | whereas "A 25 man raid has smaller unit frames with less info, grouped more closely together, showing no buffs, just debuffs" |
| 20:29.29 | Primer | etc |
| 20:29.31 | Kuosi | but ye should prolly invest some time on pitbull |
| 20:30.15 | Kuosi | tho ag got all i want cept lacks some aura modification |
| 20:30.25 | Primer | I basically have PitBull.lua.10/25/40 to accomplish this. Sucks to have to copy the file in and restart every time I want to switch though |
| 20:30.56 | genetik- | Primer: try setting up profiles? |
| 20:31.29 | Kazie | What's that macro that identifies frames? |
| 20:31.36 | Kazie | framenames* |
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| 20:33.35 | genetik- | Kazie: /script message ( "The mouse is over " .. GetMouseFocus():GetName() ); |
| 20:33.36 | genetik- | should work |
| 20:33.38 | Primer | genetik-: that only changes the look of the unit frame |
| 20:33.49 | Primer | not where they are |
| 20:34.09 | genetik- | Primer: does it? i would think it'd save the position per profile, but maybe not |
| 20:34.38 | Kazie | hmm.. it only works for the world frame :S |
| 20:34.39 | genetik- | i've never tried it.. i use grid for everything outside of 5mans |
| 20:35.05 | Kuosi | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.21 | Primer | genetik-: the problem still remains though |
| 20:35.36 | Kuosi | mouseover the frame you want to see |
| 20:35.38 | Kuosi | hit the macro |
| 20:35.41 | Primer | I want separate layouts for each type of raid |
| 20:35.47 | Kuosi | and it should print the name to your chatbox |
| 20:35.58 | Primer | 10 man vs 15,25 man vs 40 man |
| 20:36.15 | Primer | each profile would still only have 1 layout per type of raid |
| 20:36.23 | Kazie | thx a lot Kuosi and genetik- :) |
| 20:36.31 | genetik- | Kazie: np |
| 20:36.46 | genetik- | Primer: you'd set up a separate profile for each layout |
| 20:37.17 | genetik- | instead of using three different .lua files like you're doing now |
| 20:37.29 | genetik- | so you can swap them on the fly without reloading your ui |
| 20:37.39 | Kuosi | should work |
| 20:37.50 | Primer | there's no option for creating new layouts though |
| 20:37.58 | Primer | there's char/class/realm |
| 20:38.00 | Primer | that's all |
| 20:38.07 | genetik- | you should be able to create a new profile of your own name |
| 20:38.17 | Primer | hrmm |
| 20:38.19 | genetik- | i forget what the field is called.. i've done it before just playing around |
| 20:38.28 | genetik- | it's unsuspecting, if i remember correctly |
| 20:38.49 | genetik- | aka, has a strange name |
| 20:39.05 | Primer | There's a field I can type in |
| 20:39.10 | Primer | seems I can create it! |
| 20:39.10 | genetik- | yeah, try that |
| 20:39.25 | Kuosi | yup thats one :o |
| 20:39.34 | Kuosi | usually goes with "new" above it |
| 20:39.56 | Primer | ok, this looks promising |
| 20:40.07 | genetik- | still kind of a workaround |
| 20:40.17 | genetik- | but cleaner than separate .lua files |
| 20:40.53 | sb | *sigh* |
| 20:40.58 | sb | omen seems to be bugged for hunters :/ |
| 20:42.03 | sb | bloodboil aggro, brutallus aggro |
| 20:42.14 | Primer | genetik-: indeed. I should have played around with profiles more before giving up. Thanks a lot! :) |
| 20:42.25 | genetik- | no prob |
| 20:42.46 | Primer | Anyone know off hand where one trains engineering over 150? |
| 20:43.07 | genetik- | horde or alliance? |
| 20:43.10 | Primer | I think I want my twink 19 rogue to be 255 everything :) |
| 20:43.12 | Primer | alliance |
| 20:43.16 | Primer | err 225 |
| 20:43.34 | Primer | I'm hoping there will be better bombs I can use at that engineering level |
| 20:43.48 | Primer | it's ok, I'll just look it up |
| 20:44.17 | genetik- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Engineering/Engineering_Guide#Training |
| 20:44.38 | genetik- | also, if you go to the previous trainer, they should point you in the direction of the next one |
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| 20:46.42 | Pkekyo| | need some help here...am I retarded? |
| 20:46.53 | genetik- | trick question? |
| 20:46.55 | genetik- | heh |
| 20:47.17 | Pkekyo| | how could it be a trick question? |
| 20:48.29 | Pkekyo| | was thinking I would get a swift 'yes!' tbh :p |
| 20:48.35 | Pkekyo| | guess Fisker-'s not around atm |
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| 20:53.14 | CIA-43 | 03neotron * r76546 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua MagicMarker.lua MarkTemplates.lua): |
| 20:53.14 | CIA-43 | MagicMarker: |
| 20:53.14 | CIA-43 | - Fixed several bugs (some related to using incorrectly named variables). |
| 20:53.14 | CIA-43 | - Upvalued essentially everything that can be upvalued. |
| 20:54.18 | NeoTron | so looking for GETGLOBAL was useful |
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| 20:54.35 | NeoTron | I found several cases where I forgot to use "local X" and used X as a global variable (things like 'uid', 'data' etc) |
| 20:55.47 | NeoTron | found a few cases where I used the wrong named variable (maxgroup instead of maxgrp for example, which broke the out-of-raid (i.e group > 5) option) |
| 20:55.47 | NeoTron | fun stuf |
| 20:57.23 | NeoTron | sb: if you're having weird aggro issues with Brutallus it's very possible you got a bugged version |
| 20:57.40 | nevcairiel | bugged version of brutallus? |
| 20:57.46 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 20:57.50 | NeoTron | happened to us twice not |
| 20:57.59 | NeoTron | the symptom is that he randomly wacks a dpser |
| 20:58.15 | NeoTron | who doesn't even have to be near the top threat, but can be signficiantly lower in threat and damage dealt |
| 20:58.21 | NeoTron | the fix is to reset the instance |
| 20:58.30 | breser | We've had him do that. He goes to apply Burn on them, then whacks them before or after. |
| 20:58.43 | NeoTron | another fun effect is that when this is the case he almost always turns around and whacks the current OT after the new tank taunted |
| 20:58.58 | NeoTron | ooh that could be it |
| 20:59.02 | NeoTron | that makes sense |
| 20:59.12 | NeoTron | it's not threat at all, just a bug where he melee's before burn |
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| 20:59.22 | breser | Seems there's a bug where if his swing timer is up around when the Burn is applied he swings at the Burn target. |
| 20:59.35 | NeoTron | but this is a consistent behavior |
| 20:59.43 | NeoTron | only way to fix it is a soft reset |
| 21:00.16 | NeoTron | I imagine his lua instance gets corrupted somehow |
| 21:01.18 | NeoTron | still it's annoying. we had to go to BT while waiting for it to reset |
| 21:01.52 | breser | Guess I haven't seen anything like that. |
| 21:02.43 | breser | We've been close but haven't killed him, should this week though Father's Day may mess that up. |
| 21:02.45 | NeoTron | you can get a kill in this state |
| 21:02.54 | NeoTron | but we typically have people dying within 10-50% health down |
| 21:02.56 | NeoTron | for no reason |
| 21:03.00 | NeoTron | and more than one, usually 2-3 |
| 21:03.35 | NeoTron | it's a confirmed bug btw |
| 21:03.39 | NeoTron | GM's know about it |
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| 21:11.18 | nevcairiel | so, trash before RoS/Bloodboil - Pillager Gaunltes drop 3 times in a row |
| 21:11.21 | nevcairiel | wtf random numbers! |
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| 21:12.44 | sacarasc | maybe something somewhere decided you need them |
| 21:13.00 | nevcairiel | we disenchanted them 3 times |
| 21:13.04 | nevcairiel | because they suck hard :) |
| 21:13.14 | Ellipsis | mmmm, shard food |
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| 21:17.29 | elite3vil | Wheeee. DM North farming. |
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| 21:17.57 | digmouse | gmorning everyone |
| 21:18.27 | digmouse | ~seen ckknight |
| 21:18.49 | purl | ckknight is currently on #norganna (7h 8m 59s) #wowuidev (7h 8m 59s) #wowace (7h 8m 59s) #curseforge (7h 8m 59s), last said: 'Elkano: he'll be at work in just over two hours'. |
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| 21:29.43 | Matrix110 | nevcairiel a while ago we had 6 Pepe's Cloak drop in 1 Hyjal run :D |
| 21:30.13 | elite3vil | Wow, that's crazy. |
| 21:30.17 | VonhintenHOME` | that fucking cloak drops like gold |
| 21:30.26 | VonhintenHOME` | we've de'd 2 or 3 already |
| 21:30.27 | elite3vil | We had 3 of the healing cloaks drop in BT the other night |
| 21:30.58 | CIA-43 | 03pettigrow * r76547 10BigWigs/Sunwell/KilJaeden.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/KilJaeden: frFR Update |
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| 21:35.27 | Ompalumpa | hi |
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| 21:43.30 | CIA-43 | 03pseudopath * r76548 10FuBar_RelicFu/ (. FuBar_RelicFu.toc README.txt RelicFu.lua icon.tga): |
| 21:43.30 | CIA-43 | FuBar_RelicFu: initial commit |
| 21:43.30 | CIA-43 | - Adds a Ogri'Lazy plugin to the FuBar panel. |
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| 21:49.59 | NeoTron | anyone know the approximate benefit of having a Curse of Recklessness up in terms of DPS? (on, say, Brutallus - if it matters) |
| 21:50.06 | NeoTron | say you're a rogue or dps warrior |
| 21:50.27 | NivFreak | that's the bitch of armor pen |
| 21:50.39 | CIA-43 | 03pseudopath * r76549 10FuBar_RelicFu/: FuBar_RelicFu: - svn properties update |
| 21:50.41 | NivFreak | it really depends on the bosses armor, how it's debuffed, and how much armor pen you already have |
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| 21:51.45 | VonhintenHOME` | and more importantly, are you gonna gib your tank on a hard hitting boss |
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| 21:54.54 | Sam_ | I have determined I fail at using tortoise SVN |
| 21:55.08 | Pkekyo| | oh fuck me sideways....11hrs until my final exam, and I've prepared jack shit |
| 21:55.30 | VonhintenHOME` | fucking you sideways isn't gonna help that |
| 21:55.31 | VonhintenHOME` | fyi |
| 21:56.40 | Kalroth_ | At least it'll take his mind of it |
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| 21:57.01 | Pkekyo| | VonhintenHOME`: atleast it'll feel nice... |
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| 21:58.12 | DARKGuy | hahaha |
| 21:58.13 | DARKGuy | http://youtube.com/watch?v=3dWGJ2epdbs |
| 21:58.42 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 21:58.45 | Pkekyo| | about time they made a new one |
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| 21:59.26 | DARKGuy | haha, nyhm is pure genius |
| 21:59.53 | Pkekyo| | agreed |
| 22:00.40 | DARKGuy | na na na na ^^ |
| 22:01.52 | profalbert | ok finally discovered why ZOMGBuffs is not working properly when running disembedded... |
| 22:01.58 | profalbert | JWU cleans up the modules.xml |
| 22:02.24 | NivFreak | did they really need to make void shatter a 25 sec cast with no create all button? |
| 22:02.57 | Pkekyo| | nowai? |
| 22:03.01 | Pkekyo| | I hate'em |
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| 22:05.04 | Pkekyo| | someone needs to make an addon that does chain shattering then |
| 22:06.29 | profalbert | Pkekyo|: the damn function is PROTECTED :( |
| 22:06.57 | digmouse | get some shamen |
| 22:07.06 | digmouse | and HEROIC!! |
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| 22:07.27 | durcyn | need a spell haste set just for void shatter |
| 22:07.29 | durcyn | and illidan trinket |
| 22:07.52 | digmouse | 5 shamen and 5 Heroic |
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| 22:08.44 | ZealotOnAStick | "need a spell haste set just for void shatter" - WTF? |
| 22:08.52 | ZealotOnAStick | oh |
| 22:08.57 | ZealotOnAStick | VOID shatter |
| 22:08.58 | ZealotOnAStick | nm |
| 22:09.11 | ZealotOnAStick | My mind, as a lock, was thinking soul shatter. |
| 22:09.19 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, I actually use my skull for that. |
| 22:09.30 | digmouse | Equip: Increase your Void Shatter haste by 400. |
| 22:09.45 | ZealotOnAStick | what really bites is smelting hardened khorium all the way from base ores. |
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| 22:11.10 | digmouse | gmorning apoco |
| 22:11.19 | Apoco | evening |
| 22:11.53 | digmouse | :( |
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| 22:12.26 | Apoco | hehe |
| 22:12.27 | Apoco | whatsup? |
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| 22:13.37 | digmouse | just curious about AbilityWatch locale, (I found it unimplemented and should not be translated really) |
| 22:14.06 | Pkekyo| | http://youtube.com/watch?v=HatiEHTSV8Q lolwut |
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| 22:18.05 | Dashkal | Heh, seen that one, it's pretty funny |
| 22:18.41 | Pkekyo| | the twat's a bloody genious |
| 22:22.24 | ausmara | Ellipsis: Ping. |
| 22:22.39 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: plonk |
| 22:24.27 | Pkekyo| | lolwut...draneis are a cross between a smurf, a goat and davey jones? ^^ |
| 22:24.51 | Zicon | Nothing wrong with smurfs. |
| 22:25.01 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 22:30.09 | ulic | speaking of which I heard they are going to make a Smurfs movie. |
| 22:30.34 | Pkekyo| | http://youtube.com/watch?v=4oLodvKCNuU pewpewpwnz |
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| 22:37.15 | CIA-43 | 03Ompalumpa * r76550 10/littlewigs/ (. MagistersTerrace/ MagistersTerrace/Kael'thasSunstrider.lua): |
| 22:37.15 | CIA-43 | LittleWigs: |
| 22:37.15 | CIA-43 | - Added Kael'Thas(Herioc) Pyroblast cast bar |
| 22:37.54 | Stanzilla | fail |
| 22:38.03 | ompa | agreed |
| 22:41.02 | Lukian | er what? |
| 22:41.10 | Lukian | it already has that doesn't it? |
| 22:41.25 | Lukian | maybe aloft just spoils me :D |
| 22:41.25 | Gnarfoz | he commited *somewhere*, rather than to the addon. :p |
| 22:41.33 | Lukian | haha |
| 22:42.08 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 22:45.51 | Pkekyo| | meh, launching WoW has been slow_as_arse lately...anyone else got the same problem? |
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| 22:51.42 | CIA-43 | 03Ompalumpa * r76551 10LittleWigs/littlewigs/ (. MagistersTerrace/ MagistersTerrace/Kael'thasSunstrider.lua): |
| 22:51.42 | CIA-43 | LittleWigs: |
| 22:51.42 | CIA-43 | - Added Kael'Thas(Herioc) Pyroblast cast bar |
| 22:51.54 | ompa | awww feck wrong button |
| 22:53.05 | Stanzilla | fail again? |
| 22:53.22 | ompa | meant to press cancel and pressed ok instead :( |
| 22:53.29 | profalbert | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LittleWigs/littlewigs/ |
| 22:54.09 | Pkekyo| | lmao ompa |
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| 23:09.08 | CIA-43 | 03durcyn * r76552 10LittleWigs/ (MagistersTerrace/Kael'thasSunstrider.lua littlewigs/): LittleWigs: fix Ompalumpa's amazing commit. |
| 23:09.25 | ompa | cheers |
| 23:09.38 | Pkekyo| | :) |
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| 23:10.27 | hypetech | Did something replace Avion? It's not showing me any available animations. |
| 23:10.42 | Stanzilla | durcyn: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/littlewigs/ gogo |
| 23:13.08 | hypetech | what does AKDF do for the Kalecgos fight? |
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| 23:13.46 | ompa | sorry about that promise wont happen again guys |
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| 23:15.43 | CIA-43 | 03gnarfoz * r76553 10/littlewigs/: byebye |
| 23:15.56 | ompa | thanks again |
| 23:16.00 | Gnarfoz | hehe np |
| 23:16.58 | ulic | ompa: maybe play with svn in the sandbox until it does what you want it to :) |
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| 23:18.47 | durcyn | Stanzilla: the second one was a move, it seems. |
| 23:18.55 | durcyn | or gnarfoz wins |
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| 23:20.07 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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| 23:33.18 | ompa | well to be honest the night could of went worse |
| 23:33.35 | mjc | http://kotaku.com/5015984/spores-fruit-fucker-or-why-i-love-the-creature-creator |
| 23:36.13 | CIA-43 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r76554 10kagaro/Shadows/Shadows.lua: Shadows: updates |
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| 23:41.51 | CIA-43 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r76555 10kagaro/Shadows/ (Libs/ Shadows.toc embeds.xml): Shadows: updates |
| 23:42.23 | mjc | http://www.joeydevilla.com/2008/06/11/gummi-lighthouses-when-candy-design-goes-terribly-hilariously-wrong/ |
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| 23:49.13 | Pkekyo| | anyone here good at webdesign? |
| 23:49.42 | Ellipsis | sneaks up behind Pkekyo| and designs a website on the back of his shirt that says "kick me" |
| 23:50.33 | JoshBorke | <html><body><H1>Kick me</H1><H3>here</H3></body></html> |
| 23:50.34 | JoshBorke | :-D |
| 23:50.46 | Pkekyo| | you forgot doctype! bastard! :p |
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| 23:50.51 | Ellipsis | that wasn't xhtml |
| 23:50.56 | Ellipsis | JoshBorke fails validation |
| 23:50.58 | JoshBorke | yea! |
| 23:50.59 | Ellipsis | burn the witch! |
| 23:51.01 | JoshBorke | wait |
| 23:51.04 | JoshBorke | runs |
| 23:51.18 | Pkekyo| | grabs the makeshift flamethrower and gives JoshBorke a light |
| 23:51.24 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: you has teh websmarts? |
| 23:51.56 | Pkekyo| | oh, I almost forgot... |
| 23:52.02 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis |
| 23:52.15 | Ellipsis | yeah I do a bit of webdesign, why? |
| 23:52.19 | Pkekyo| | PM... |
| 23:53.03 | DARKGuy | Pkekyo|, I do webdesign too, what is it? |
| 23:53.08 | CIA-43 | 03apoco * r76556 10RBM/Core.lua: RBM: -ver bump to 2.0.7 |
| 23:53.26 | Pkekyo| | PM |
| 23:53.45 | Ellipsis | pfft, webdesign with boobies > webdesign without boobies |
| 23:53.46 | Apoco | Who runs the WowAce SVN? |
| 23:54.08 | Pkekyo| | gotta side with Ellipsis on this one :p |
| 23:54.26 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: kaelten |
| 23:54.55 | Apoco | I've been locked outa one of my mods on it |
| 23:54.56 | Apoco | wtf |
| 23:55.00 | CIA-43 | 03Copystring * r76557 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua: |
| 23:55.00 | CIA-43 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 23:55.00 | CIA-43 | - add Environment damage |
| 23:55.00 | CIA-43 | - add periodic Damage flags |
| 23:55.00 | CIA-43 | - make enchants look like SCL |
| 23:55.15 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: you can also try talking to Funkeh` or pastamancer |
| 23:55.23 | Apoco | kk |
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| 23:55.36 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: now use your mighty boobiewebdesign to help me out :p |
| 23:55.38 | Arrowmaster | but check first that you are using dev.wowace.com and not svn.wowace.com |
| 23:55.50 | durcyn | and that your commit message is well formed |
| 23:56.25 | Apoco | its the same checkout I've been using since initial commit |
| 23:56.49 | Apoco | there we go |
| 23:56.49 | CIA-43 | 03apoco * r76558 10RBM_AbilityWatch/RBM_AbilityWatch.lua: |
| 23:56.49 | CIA-43 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 23:56.49 | CIA-43 | - Added support for summoned spells (Summon water elemental) |
| 23:56.49 | CIA-43 | - Major Spell List Update. Pallies, Warlocks, and Mages should be complete now. |
| 23:56.55 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: ping |
| 23:56.56 | Apoco | it kept giving me "Server sent unexpected return value (403 Forbidden) in response to MKACTIVITY" |
| 23:57.01 | NivFreak | ~seen zhinjio |
| 23:57.04 | purl | zhinjio is currently on #wowace (4d 16h 19m 44s) #curseforge (4d 16h 19m 44s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 21h 15m 50s, last said: 'Anyone know if ATSW is still being maintained? '. |
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