| 00:03.42 | CIA-43 | 03gamefaq * r76442 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: deDE Update |
| 00:03.44 | CIA-43 | 03apoco * r76443 10RBM_BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: RBM_BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: fixed another possible error. |
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| 00:10.08 | Zyuu | season 4 http://news.curse.com/details/10641/ |
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| 00:16.32 | Diao | pitbull needs to pick up playertargets from ora2 :( |
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| 00:44.10 | NivFreak | is there really any practical reason for a resto shaman to cast anything other than chain heal (aside from reactionary oh shit moments) |
| 00:44.59 | Jygga | when there is only one melee which you are supposed to heal ? |
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| 00:49.08 | Megalon | when you are solo! |
| 00:50.01 | NivFreak | Jygga: you mean tank healing? :P |
| 00:53.07 | Delorala | NivFreak: i have no clue, but i guess the other healing spells are more effective (heal/mana) on singletarget^^ |
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| 01:12.57 | Ackis | is there a mod just for target of target? |
| 01:13.08 | Ackis | ie: something to make the blizz target of target always work? |
| 01:13.13 | Seerah | a unit frame? |
| 01:13.37 | Ackis | nothing as complicated as a full unit frame replacement |
| 01:13.38 | MentalPower|Food | theres a setting in the default interface options |
| 01:13.59 | MentalPower | show target of target (always|solo|group) |
| 01:14.07 | Ackis | it disappears at times (aka is bugged) |
| 01:16.53 | Ackis | OT was complaining about it |
| 01:17.33 | Dark_Elf | doenst xperl show target of target? |
| 01:18.17 | Ackis | a lot of them do, he uses default UI yet it disappears on him (happened to me before I moved to pitbull) |
| 01:20.51 | Dark_Elf | scientifically target of target if soloing would be ones own character, lol newtons law! |
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| 01:31.20 | MentalPower | Dark_Elf: not always due to combat pets |
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| 01:36.31 | Lukian | I'm using agUnitFrames off the svn, and my copy works fine, but i'm trying to configure it on my housemate's pc and I can't see the "player" or "target" frame |
| 01:36.36 | Lukian | I can only see the party frame |
| 01:36.56 | Lukian | any suggestions on how I can move it / position it in the centre of the screen so I can find it? |
| 01:38.39 | Dark_Elf | ya all would laugh at my screen i have 3 of each unit frames, pitbull, xperl and perl all running at same time talk about a scrreen full of combat lol |
| 01:42.19 | Delorala | wicked sick |
| 01:43.50 | Lukian | Dark_Elf, you are crazy |
| 01:45.31 | NivFreak | Ackis: the ToT issue is actually why I originally stopped using the default frames |
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| 02:01.37 | Lukian | stabs ag |
| 02:01.39 | Lukian | :D |
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| 02:29.48 | CIA-43 | 03Bangerz * r76444 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/ (4 files): |
| 02:29.48 | CIA-43 | Bang!_Libram_Swap: |
| 02:29.48 | CIA-43 | -2.42.K Added LoA/LoDJ/LoW/LoRP retribution cycling, trad. chinese loc., LoZ to SotC, HL spamproof. |
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| 02:49.22 | digmouse | season 4 starts 7.1? |
| 02:51.37 | dylanm_ | digmouse: June 24th. |
| 02:52.48 | RaydenU | 20k armor :D |
| 02:53.03 | Ackis | tripple vanq dropped: offspec feral, offspec moonkin, offspec arcane mage |
| 02:53.52 | dylanm_ | Ackis: How's the Illidan server these days? |
| 02:53.58 | Ackis | shit |
| 02:53.59 | Ackis | lol |
| 02:54.38 | dylanm_ | Hm. |
| 02:54.59 | dylanm_ | I'm like to get on a decent realm for Wrath. |
| 02:55.59 | dylanm_ | Being on a backwater server doesn't bother me much now but I'm sure it will at that point. |
| 02:56.12 | dylanm_ | Maybe back to Mal'Ganis but it was queue-ful when I left and I'm sure it's only gotten worse. |
| 03:00.07 | digmouse | June 24th for eu and us? |
| 03:00.35 | dylanm_ | One day later in Europe. |
| 03:00.52 | digmouse | so it would be 7.1 for CN then |
| 03:01.13 | dylanm_ | Why not |
| 03:01.54 | digmouse | Starting farming for honor |
| 03:02.35 | digmouse | omg I got 75K more to do |
| 03:06.00 | CIA-43 | 03starlon * r76445 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Start searching at offset |
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| 03:10.52 | VonhintenHOME` | Ok, am I the only one that makes a macro for every energy or rage based ability that does /startcombat right before it? |
| 03:11.19 | VonhintenHOME` | Surely there's gotta be an option to automatically enter combat when you try to use one of them without energy |
| 03:12.22 | dylanm_ | Pretty sure you're the only one. |
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| 03:13.09 | VonhintenHOME` | So what do other people do? Stand there like knobs until their energy builds up, and then enter combat? |
| 03:13.15 | VonhintenHOME` | would love to see the DPS of those people |
| 03:15.09 | RaydenU | why oh why do we have 2 moonkins in kara? |
| 03:16.59 | copystring | wowace.com down or is it me? |
| 03:17.17 | Seerah | down for me too |
| 03:18.02 | copystring | :< |
| 03:20.02 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: that right there is the reason I keep attack on my bar |
| 03:20.47 | Dashkal | though I mostly just right-click target |
| 03:21.20 | RaydenU | attack on your bar? |
| 03:21.23 | RaydenU | what's wrong with t? |
| 03:21.35 | phanx | I just bound Q to attack for my kitty druid |
| 03:21.43 | Dashkal | that could work too |
| 03:21.57 | RaydenU | T is the default attack |
| 03:22.11 | phanx | yeah but I use T for assist :P |
| 03:22.12 | Dashkal | I actually had no idea it was keybound by default |
| 03:22.33 | phanx | W for move forward, E and R for trinkets |
| 03:24.46 | VonhintenHOME` | oh god, forget that... /startattack macro it is |
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| 03:29.40 | CIA-43 | 03phanx * r76446 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealth.lua: |
| 03:29.40 | CIA-43 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 03:29.40 | CIA-43 | - Adjust shadow offset distance. |
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| 03:40.34 | phanx | So, anyone in here familiar with embedding AceGUI-3.0? I want to know if I need to embed *all* of the included widgets, or just the ones my addon uses. |
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| 03:44.26 | CIA-43 | 03ackis * r76447 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua: |
| 03:44.26 | CIA-43 | TIRaid: |
| 03:44.26 | CIA-43 | - I WANT TO DOCK WITH DOKO |
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| 03:45.22 | dylanm | phanx: It seems as if people embed the whole thing. |
| 03:45.53 | Delorala | i know i'm late, but: 05:11
VonhintenHOME`: Ok, am I the only one that makes a macro for every energy or rage based ability that does /startcombat right before it? |
| 03:46.03 | Delorala | well... standard?^^ |
| 03:46.35 | Delorala | i have it on my rogue, in my retri- as well as protadin macros... |
| 03:48.52 | Delorala | though VonhintenHOME`: i've /startattack AFTER my specials |
| 03:49.18 | Delorala | like when retri specced and doing pvp, i often hit guys sitting (drinking) |
| 03:49.32 | Delorala | on sitting people, the first hit 100% crits |
| 03:49.50 | dylanm | phanx: It would probably work if you didn't load or include all of the widgets. I guess it would be unexpected to people that the unembedded version would have different files in it. And certainly from the perspective of svn:externals it would be strange. |
| 03:49.53 | Delorala | so i rather have my specials attack first and have the startattack afterwards |
| 03:50.10 | Delorala | though that might all be rubish what im talking :D |
| 03:50.32 | VonhintenHOME` | You might have a point there |
| 03:51.11 | VonhintenHOME` | does crusader strike crit bigger than a while hit? |
| 03:51.18 | VonhintenHOME` | while=white |
| 03:51.29 | Delorala | way bigger^^ |
| 03:51.40 | Delorala | what are u playing? |
| 03:52.01 | Delorala | specials should hit higher on any char/spec than whitehits :D |
| 03:52.09 | VonhintenHOME` | rogue |
| 03:52.20 | VonhintenHOME` | and druid, and prot pally |
| 03:52.22 | Delorala | so, SS also hits like... double? of whitehit? |
| 03:52.46 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, it's bigger, wasn't sure if a 2h white hit would be bigger than crusader strike though |
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| 03:54.37 | Delorala | anyway.. i'm off to bed now^^bye |
| 03:55.42 | phanx | dylanm: Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I don't really want to embed the whole 140kb AceGUI-3.0 package though... that alone is over 7 times the size of my addon's files. :( |
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| 04:06.01 | RaydenU | opera sucks for druids |
| 04:06.04 | RaydenU | in terms of loot |
| 04:06.35 | Ellipsis | why would druids want a different browse--oh, you mean in kara |
| 04:06.41 | RaydenU | also |
| 04:06.42 | RaydenU | http://wow-loot.com/raid_kara.htm |
| 04:06.46 | RaydenU | Romulo's Poison |
| 04:06.53 | RaydenU | why aren't druids listed? |
| 04:07.07 | RaydenU | 6th best trinket in the game for cats |
| 04:09.59 | Dashkal | it is? sweet |
| 04:10.02 | Dashkal | glad I picked it up then |
| 04:12.07 | Lukian | RaydenU, hmmm |
| 04:12.09 | Lukian | I don't think so |
| 04:12.38 | Lukian | 15th best |
| 04:13.07 | VonhintenHOME` | probably changes position depending on what your hit rating is |
| 04:13.12 | VonhintenHOME` | worth more if you're not hit capped |
| 04:13.17 | Lukian | I have 42 hit rating |
| 04:13.23 | Lukian | hit rating means little to cat druids |
| 04:13.45 | Dashkal | I just nabbed it so I could swap out my pants for better stats |
| 04:13.59 | RaydenU | http://www.emmerald.net/Cat_High_DPS/Trinket.html |
| 04:14.00 | RaydenU | #5 |
| 04:14.10 | Lukian | emmerald is WAAAAY out of date |
| 04:14.14 | Lukian | http://druid.wikispaces.com/ToskksDPSGearMethod |
| 04:14.24 | RaydenU | really? |
| 04:14.32 | Lukian | and it doesn't take your stats into account *at all* |
| 04:14.35 | Lukian | yes |
| 04:15.13 | Lukian | HAHA nice he did the maths on Timbal's :D |
| 04:15.50 | RaydenU | so what do i do with this? |
| 04:17.30 | RaydenU | i'm not entirely sure that for gearing up purposes, your current stats matter too much |
| 04:17.41 | RaydenU | i don't want to geat for my crappy state, i want to gear for once i get stuff |
| 04:18.34 | Lukian | k use my stats then |
| 04:18.55 | Lukian | 4k AP, 50% crit, 19 weapon damage, 64 expertise, 0 haste, 189 armor pen |
| 04:19.09 | Lukian | tick kings and malorne and relentless |
| 04:19.35 | VonhintenHOME` | 4k? what is that, t6 level? |
| 04:19.41 | Lukian | *chuckle* |
| 04:19.46 | Lukian | t4 :p |
| 04:19.54 | Lukian | and the best gear around there :) |
| 04:20.06 | Lukian | I'm not much for raiding ^_^ |
| 04:20.13 | VonhintenHOME` | ah |
| 04:20.57 | Lukian | that's fully buffed too |
| 04:21.33 | Lukian | RaydenU, change weapon damage to 12 if you aren't likely to use a crystalforged trinket |
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| 04:22.02 | Lukian | I assume you'll be using weight/sharpening stones :) |
| 04:25.37 | Lukian | RaydenU, "Well, if you care about theorycraft, you know not to use Emmerald's lists, because they're static; they're for people who don't want to do the theorycraft, just want a really quick guideline" |
| 04:28.36 | RaydenU | i don't think it matters for me right now |
| 04:28.39 | RaydenU | mostly blues |
| 04:28.41 | RaydenU | one piece of t4 |
| 04:28.47 | RaydenU | :P |
| 04:28.56 | Lukian | 2nd piece of t4 will give you a huge dps boost :) |
| 04:29.08 | RaydenU | so i hear |
| 04:29.18 | RaydenU | sharpening stones matter for druids? |
| 04:29.22 | Lukian | yup |
| 04:29.31 | Lukian | add about 20dps |
| 04:29.37 | Dashkal | say again? *blinks* |
| 04:29.44 | Dashkal | sighs |
| 04:30.08 | Lukian | Dashkal, not up to date? |
| 04:30.21 | RaydenU | i haven't read up on how weapon dmg affects druids |
| 04:30.24 | RaydenU | i know it does quite a bit |
| 04:30.25 | Dashkal | eh, *shrugs* not like I raid anymore anyway |
| 04:30.44 | Lukian | RaydenU, it increases the damage on rip ticks afaik |
| 04:31.22 | Dashkal | erm, I use a staff. Can you sharpen that? |
| 04:31.30 | Lukian | blunt weapon |
| 04:31.39 | Lukian | so it's a weightstone, not a sharpening stone |
| 04:31.47 | Dashkal | that's what I thought, and weightstones are attack speed. |
| 04:31.55 | Lukian | no they aren't.. |
| 04:32.02 | Dashkal | man I'm out of date |
| 04:32.11 | Lukian | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28421 |
| 04:32.22 | Dashkal | just looked it up |
| 04:32.35 | Dashkal | oh well, good to know |
| 04:33.07 | Dashkal | Ok, looked up the rest, I'm just plain confused |
| 04:33.17 | Dashkal | ~fail dashkal |
| 04:33.18 | purl | dashkal, you Fail! |
| 04:35.21 | Lukian | seems +wpndmg applies to shred and mangle |
| 04:36.28 | Dashkal | huh, and the daily reward oil works too... |
| 04:37.02 | Lukian | yup |
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| 04:49.35 | Kazie | Is there no way to link to ex. Bartender4 on files.wowace.com and make it automatically pick the newest version? .. or can i only make it pick the current version ... since it seems that i cannot enter a page anymore with all the former version as well :s |
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| 04:54.55 | Yssaril | Kazie: try http://files.wowace.com/Bartender4/ |
| 04:55.15 | Kazie | Wierd.. already tried that with both bt4 and omen |
| 04:55.25 | Kazie | must have made a typo or something |
| 04:56.01 | Yssaril | :P |
| 05:01.52 | phanx | That'll link to the version list. A zip link with no version will always point to the newest version. http://files.wowace.com/Bartender4/Bartender4.zip |
| 05:03.15 | Kazie | Ahh.. so if link Bartender4.zip.. it will automatically pick the newest? .. hence nevcairiel updates the bartender4.zip aye? :) .. or is that automated as welL? |
| 05:07.23 | dylanm | Everything on files.wowace.com is automated. |
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| 05:09.19 | DARKGuy | :) |
| 05:09.35 | Lukian | licks DARKGuy |
| 05:09.39 | DARKGuy | AHH |
| 05:09.45 | DARKGuy | licks Lukian back :3 |
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| 05:11.20 | DARKGuy | Haha, on guild chat: <Thorbadin> you're greenie? - <Byw> No, all my items are orange now. - <Thorbadin> Wtf. - <Byw> I colored them with fabercastell crayons :D <- rofl |
| 05:12.13 | phanx | hurrah, forums are alive! |
| 05:13.28 | DARKGuy | yay |
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| 05:17.53 | digmouse | so greenie, bluenie and? |
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| 05:27.47 | Wraithan | What is/are the options for all in one interface via WAU, I am having a hard time finding one |
| 05:29.52 | Arrowmaster | you mean compilations? |
| 05:30.33 | Wraithan | er, all in one bag interface |
| 05:30.40 | Wraithan | I see arkinventory |
| 05:33.24 | Kazie | Wraithan: I doubt that you'll be able to find any finished UI compilations on waU |
| 05:33.26 | Kazie | WAU* |
| 05:33.39 | Wraithan | not looking for a UI compilation |
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| 05:34.00 | Wraithan | I want a all in one bag interface, something to display all my bags and sort it for me |
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| 05:34.08 | Arrowmaster | not really sure anymore on bag mods, on wowace |
| 05:34.21 | Zyndrome | Baggins? ArkInventory? |
| 05:35.07 | Wraithan | Baggins is out of date, so that only leaves arkinventory |
| 05:35.30 | Silverstorm | but it runs far better than aI |
| 05:35.50 | Lukian | Wraithan, out of date doesn't mean much |
| 05:36.09 | Arrowmaster | meh i wont touch any of the bagmods on wowace, i use bagnon |
| 05:36.59 | VonhintenHOME` | Why's that? |
| 05:37.13 | Arrowmaster | because its better imho |
| 05:37.40 | Funkeh` | lies |
| 05:37.52 | Funkeh` | combuctor > * |
| 05:38.25 | Lukian | default > * |
| 05:38.26 | Arrowmaster | i havent tried combuctor yet but i dont like catagories and all that extra stuff |
| 05:38.50 | Wraithan | well, baggins doesn't seem to work, just getting error messages trying |
| 05:38.58 | Zyndrome | * > * |
| 05:39.21 | Funkeh` | it's basic blizzard categories |
| 05:39.30 | Funkeh` | not massive pt categories |
| 05:39.59 | Wraithan | 'Interface\AddOns\Baggins\Baggins.lua:2476: attempt to call method 'CountEmptySlots' (a nil value)" |
| 05:42.31 | Funkeh` | is there something wrong with registerallevents |
| 05:42.45 | Funkeh` | i still see debugging addons that use their own table of events |
| 05:44.05 | Arrowmaster | well if your using a blizzard frame and not something like aceevent you can registerallevents then unregisterevent anything spammy you know you dont want |
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| 05:46.02 | Funkeh` | mm |
| 05:46.13 | Funkeh` | oh well breakfast time |
| 05:46.17 | Funkeh` | nomnom |
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| 05:47.15 | Ellipsis | im in ur breakfast, om nom nom nom |
| 05:47.54 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76448 10MiniPet/ (MiniPet.lua MiniPet.toc README.txt): |
| 05:47.54 | CIA-43 | MiniPet: |
| 05:47.54 | CIA-43 | - Always use LibStub for library getting |
| 05:47.54 | CIA-43 | - TOC reorganizing |
| 05:47.54 | CIA-43 | - README updating |
| 05:48.37 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis, you taste good |
| 05:48.44 | Ellipsis | that's what she said |
| 05:49.36 | Funkeh` | mkay |
| 05:50.10 | Ellipsis | but what I want to know is, how do YOU know what I taste like? |
| 05:50.35 | DARKGuy | Arrowmaster, OneBag ftw! |
| 05:50.36 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76449 10MiniPet/MiniPet.toc: |
| 05:50.36 | CIA-43 | MiniPet: |
| 05:50.36 | CIA-43 | - TOC Author changes for WowAce WIKI support |
| 05:51.44 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis, I told him :P |
| 05:52.07 | DARKGuy | Aw he left, joke fails :( |
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| 05:56.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+v CIA-43] by Funkeh` |
| 05:59.33 | *** topic/#wowace by Funkeh` -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | S4 in 2 weeks (tm), model editing users get spanked by blizz. |
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| 06:10.22 | CIA-43 | 03orionshock * r76450 10SickOfClickingDailies/core.lua: SickOfClickingDailies: remove question option from skettis escort, adjust options table to be more layout friendly. |
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| 06:13.41 | NeoTron | fucking brutallus bugged again |
| 06:13.59 | NeoTron | when he changes aggro on ppl that are WAY below on threat |
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| 06:25.43 | Funkeh` | oh ffs |
| 06:25.53 | Funkeh` | servers off for another 3 hours |
| 06:26.26 | Funkeh` | they should make a special non maintenance server where authors can sit afk and test crap |
| 06:26.51 | Zyndrome | you mean private servers? :D |
| 06:27.10 | Funkeh` | no -_- |
| 06:28.20 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 06:28.33 | DARKGuy | they're not worth the change imho :( |
| 06:28.36 | Elkano | they should include a minimalistic offline singleplayer for coders :/ |
| 06:28.42 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 06:30.33 | DARKGuy | I tried using the WoW trial client... no luck :( |
| 06:31.25 | DARKGuy | Hm. Something like, make all players statically dressed |
| 06:31.28 | Elkano | there is no trial client |
| 06:31.42 | DARKGuy | well, the streaming one |
| 06:31.44 | DARKGuy | it still exists xD |
| 06:32.01 | Elkano | a streaming client? what did I miss? |
| 06:32.06 | QuantumDelta | wait |
| 06:32.09 | DARKGuy | you've been living in a cave |
| 06:32.10 | DARKGuy | D: |
| 06:32.11 | QuantumDelta | funkeh yer european? :P |
| 06:32.31 | Funkeh` | isn't that obvious? Oo |
| 06:32.38 | DARKGuy | he's from Mars |
| 06:32.42 | QuantumDelta | I thought for ages you were american cuz of your sleep pattern :P |
| 06:32.43 | DARKGuy | that's why he's so mean with us all |
| 06:32.58 | DARKGuy | *to |
| 06:33.00 | Funkeh` | my sleep pattern is totally random |
| 06:33.05 | QuantumDelta | haha |
| 06:33.13 | DARKGuy | Elkano, there's a streaming wow client around o,o |
| 06:33.25 | DARKGuy | it doesn't work tho D: |
| 06:33.38 | DARKGuy | and it has the old login screen :D |
| 06:33.46 | QuantumDelta | same here Funkeh ;\ |
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| 06:48.41 | Funkeh` | ~framexml |
| 06:48.41 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
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| 06:55.39 | Arrowmaster | bah fuck, i go searching for a new lcd since mine doesnt have hdcp or component input and i was thinking of getting a ps3, but all the 24" ones are crap and any larger is too expensive (and i wanted a 1920x1200 native res not larger) |
| 06:56.10 | durcyn | look for a used dell 2405FPW |
| 06:56.47 | Arrowmaster | no its crap |
| 06:56.54 | Arrowmaster | pva screen |
| 06:57.01 | durcyn | not the 5 series |
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| 06:57.35 | grzesieq | tbh, using a tv as your computer display isnt as bad as it would seem |
| 06:57.37 | Arrowmaster | does it even have hdcp? |
| 06:57.41 | durcyn | or hrm, could be. |
| 06:57.46 | grzesieq | check if you can get a 32" tv for that price ;) |
| 06:57.48 | durcyn | what do you have against samsung? |
| 06:58.37 | Arrowmaster | i guess im spoiled since ive been using a 2001FP with a S-IPS screen for like 4+ years |
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| 07:04.04 | durcyn | you're right, looks like only the 7s and newer have HDCP |
| 07:05.03 | Arrowmaster | and like i said ive been spoiled with an S-IPS panel for 4+ years |
| 07:05.19 | durcyn | and they had a sale on 3007WFP-HC stock recently, those at least are S-IPS TFTs |
| 07:05.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah those are |
| 07:05.45 | Arrowmaster | but a little too big for my taste |
| 07:06.08 | durcyn | i thought so too at first, but now you'd have to pry mine out of my cold dead fingers |
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| 07:08.16 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, I love how Vista just decides to shut down all applications and reboot for an update |
| 07:08.30 | VonhintenHOME` | without even interrupting me with a prompt |
| 07:08.45 | Zyndrome | aint technology awesome? |
| 07:09.28 | Zyndrome | "I found it! I found the cure for cancer! Holy beavertails, I've found it!" *sudden reboot* |
| 07:09.31 | Arrowmaster | dont you love it when you get a prompt to restart and the only option is yes, so you click the X to close it and it restarts anyway |
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| 07:11.46 | CIA-43 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r76451 10Grid/Grid2/GridCore.lua: Grid2: Make the options load when opening the Grid2 interface option group. |
| 07:12.48 | CIA-43 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r76452 10Grid/Grid2Options/core.lua: Grid2: The interface window is now a attribute of Grid2. |
| 07:15.04 | ncd|Aileen | mh, is there a possibility to get the name of a zone based on it's id? |
| 07:16.10 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:16.55 | ncd|Aileen | :( |
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| 07:26.07 | Aiiane | apparently google reader contains the konami code o.0 |
| 07:30.45 | Diskmaster | ... wut |
| 07:32.14 | Aiiane | http://www.google.com/reader |
| 07:32.28 | Aiiane | log in, then enter up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, b, a |
| 07:32.32 | Aiiane | (on your keyboard) |
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| 07:33.26 | Diskmaster | ... wut |
| 07:33.29 | Diskmaster | O_o |
| 07:33.36 | Diskmaster | That's just ... what |
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| 07:34.16 | ramoz | LOL |
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| 07:34.35 | Arrowmaster | NINJAS! |
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| 07:40.27 | CIA-43 | 03snago * r76453 10oUF_PowerSpark/oUF_PowerSpark.lua: |
| 07:40.27 | CIA-43 | oUF_PowerSpark: |
| 07:40.27 | CIA-43 | - Fix the 5sr spark from not showing at all if you didn't use the manaticker. |
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| 07:59.20 | Primer | How can I write a macro to cast something on my pet's target? |
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| 08:02.32 | Elkano | [target=pettarget] ? |
| 08:03.32 | Primer | excellent, thanks |
| 08:07.21 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:07.29 | Diao | are there any mail addons that let you right click to retrieve |
| 08:07.38 | Diao | bulkmail2 is out of date and it's buggy :( |
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| 08:12.44 | Diao | er not bulkmail2 |
| 08:12.45 | Diao | postman |
| 08:13.02 | Diao | but both are kinda buggy |
| 08:13.37 | ramoz | Postal |
| 08:13.41 | ramoz | lets you shiftclock |
| 08:13.43 | ramoz | click |
| 08:13.57 | Diao | yeah, but i'm lazy.. would rather use rightclick :( |
| 08:14.07 | Diao | holding modifier keys is bothersome |
| 08:14.16 | ramoz | dont you have your hand around the shift key anyways? |
| 08:14.17 | ramoz | k |
| 08:14.20 | ramoz | writer you own then |
| 08:14.44 | Diao | maybe i'll get postal and just modify the code |
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| 08:20.42 | qwesto | Diao, try JebusMail |
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| 08:21.17 | Diao | oh |
| 08:21.18 | Diao | sweet |
| 08:21.22 | Diao | based on postman even |
| 08:21.31 | Diao | thanks qwesto |
| 08:21.42 | qwesto | np, found it by chance yesterday :) |
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| 08:30.26 | CIA-43 | 03whitetooth * r76454 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 08:30.26 | CIA-43 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 08:30.26 | CIA-43 | - Removed Encaps, added Fog of Corruption |
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| 08:35.43 | CIA-43 | 03snago * r76455 10oUF_PowerSpark/oUF_PowerSpark.lua: |
| 08:35.43 | CIA-43 | oUF_PowerSpark: |
| 08:35.43 | CIA-43 | - Fix two var names |
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| 08:43.10 | Bangerz | hey, would anyone have any idea why having some other ace mods installed makes the blizzard interface menu of mine resize? |
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| 08:44.24 | nevcairiel | probably because the mod resizes it? :) |
| 08:45.24 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I think you are jumping conclusions here ;) |
| 08:45.26 | Bangerz | The big blizzard frame is the same size, but having quite a few different ace addons installed along with my mod makes the tab and frame shrink in my menu, despite the box being the same size |
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| 08:46.44 | Bangerz | wondering if there is a condition I can put in the options table that says "No, you stay there" or something :p |
| 08:49.56 | CIA-43 | 03wang * r76456 10Altoholic/ (6 files): |
| 08:49.56 | CIA-43 | Altoholic: |
| 08:49.56 | CIA-43 | - zhCN update |
| 08:49.56 | CIA-43 | - fix a error in Cwow |
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| 09:18.13 | thul | http://l-independantfootballclub.midiblogs.com/media/02/01/51b99c54dc5fb7e2e25602e15a5cc6c6.jpg <- oh the hotness, that is all i can say |
| 09:21.11 | charon | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-pictures-firefox-crash-snow.jpg |
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| 09:27.16 | CIA-43 | 03jerry * r76457 10Links/Links.lua: Links: fix the logic in the AceAddon hack so that other addons than Blizzard_CombatLog may be used. |
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| 09:37.19 | [Ammo] | jerry: you could just hook in OnEnable instead of the ugly hack :p |
| 09:42.54 | CIA-43 | 03jerry * r76458 10Ratings/core.lua: Ratings: Automatically disable the addon for unsupported locales. Slight speed improvement. |
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| 09:50.57 | Silviu- | He is even here in chan ? |
| 09:51.05 | [Ammo] | I didn't check but he isn't |
| 09:51.09 | [Ammo] | his hack is fracking ugly |
| 09:51.13 | Silviu- | ;-) |
| 09:51.22 | [Ammo] | and I doubt its needed |
| 09:51.30 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76459 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassButton.lua: |
| 09:51.30 | CIA-43 | AutoBar : |
| 09:51.30 | CIA-43 | -- Handle spellName2 being nil |
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| 10:08.03 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: maybe ive been up too long but i dont even see wtf his hack does |
| 10:09.41 | [Ammo] | it makes sure the ADDON_LOADED triggered by him loading the CombatLog doesn't trigger teh OnInitialize of Links |
| 10:09.56 | [Ammo] | because he wants to hook the SetItemRef drek later on |
| 10:10.12 | [Ammo] | if he just hooks the SetItemRef in OnEnable() the combatlog is there and everyone is happy |
| 10:10.20 | [Ammo] | he could even just load the combatlog frmo his OnInitialize |
| 10:10.24 | [Ammo] | without the need for stupid hacks |
| 10:10.32 | Arrowmaster | no i mean the logic of his hack makes zero sense |
| 10:10.37 | Arrowmaster | because it does nothing |
| 10:10.49 | [Ammo] | it makes sure his Onitialize isn't fired |
| 10:11.01 | [Ammo] | due to him loading the combatlog in the body of his file |
| 10:11.28 | Arrowmaster | where does he load it? |
| 10:11.38 | [Ammo] | _G.CombatLog_LoadUI() |
| 10:11.38 | Arrowmaster | im only looking at links.lua |
| 10:12.05 | Arrowmaster | ok why is his OnInitalize getting called anyway? |
| 10:12.13 | [Ammo] | because ADDON_LOADED is fired |
| 10:12.26 | Nargiddley | he calls the orig in both cases, That seems like a big noop to me |
| 10:12.28 | [Ammo] | and any new Ace3 Addon will get its OnInitialize fired |
| 10:12.29 | Arrowmaster | OnInitalize is fired anytime ADDON_LOADED is fired? |
| 10:12.32 | [Ammo] | no he doesn't |
| 10:12.41 | Arrowmaster | yes he does |
| 10:12.50 | [Ammo] | he only calls the prev_OnEvent when the actual ADDON_LOADED is fired for Links |
| 10:12.52 | [Ammo] | not for the combatlog |
| 10:13.00 | [Ammo] | you need some coffee :p |
| 10:13.21 | Nargiddley | ugh thats ugly |
| 10:13.26 | [Ammo] | yeah it's stupid |
| 10:13.35 | [Ammo] | he can do his hooking in OnInitialize just fine |
| 10:13.42 | [Ammo] | or in OnEnable even better |
| 10:13.55 | [Ammo] | no need to hook the AceAddon3.0 frame and mess around with it |
| 10:14.26 | [Ammo] | specially since the script can be overwritten due to library upgrading |
| 10:14.43 | [Ammo] | not that that is really an issue in this case |
| 10:14.56 | Arrowmaster | that seems like it could cause issues if OnInitalize is being called before the file is completely executed |
| 10:15.05 | Nargiddley | I still can't see what thats meant to do :/ |
| 10:15.24 | Nargiddley | seems to ignore addon_loaded untill the one for links fires |
| 10:15.32 | [Ammo] | it does |
| 10:15.37 | Arrowmaster | which is wrong |
| 10:15.52 | Arrowmaster | should just change his addon and tell him not to fuck with ace3 frames |
| 10:15.57 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 10:16.01 | [Ammo] | that's why I asked on irc |
| 10:16.05 | Nargiddley | if another addon_loaded fires for another ace3 addon while that script is there |
| 10:16.06 | [Ammo] | but he's not on here |
| 10:16.12 | Arrowmaster | hes never been on irc afaik |
| 10:16.16 | Nargiddley | it wont be processed |
| 10:16.20 | Silviu- | ~seen Jerry |
| 10:16.23 | purl | jerry <n=root@202.74.105.113> was last seen on IRC in channel #, 236d 7h 33m 37s ago, saying: 'MSG GreaseMonkey hi.'. |
| 10:16.37 | Arrowmaster | see i doubt thats the same jerry |
| 10:16.41 | Silviu- | ;) |
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| 10:16.47 | Arrowmaster | although that ones a moron too |
| 10:16.50 | Arrowmaster | ircing as root |
| 10:16.53 | Silviu- | :D |
| 10:16.56 | Silviu- | I noticed it too |
| 10:17.43 | Silviu- | ~seen Tuller |
| 10:17.44 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 10h 24m 5s ago, saying: 'djembe is winning, whee'. |
| 10:17.44 | [Ammo] | what's most awesome is he's trying to prevent his OnInitialize being fired |
| 10:17.51 | [Ammo] | which does absolutely nothing |
| 10:17.55 | [Ammo] | apart from regitering his options |
| 10:18.03 | Silviu- | Djembe sounds awfull :/ |
| 10:18.41 | Nargiddley | I think whats most awsome is that he's managed to stop every other OnInitialize from firing, his will work perfectly |
| 10:18.49 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:19.17 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo] that behavior does sound bad though, since OnInitalize will get called if do any LoadAddOn() in your main file even before any other files in your addon have been executed |
| 10:19.18 | [Ammo] | guess another author to add to the list of idiots |
| 10:19.37 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: it's defined behaviour |
| 10:20.08 | [Ammo] | I can't smell which addon my file belongs to |
| 10:20.43 | [Ammo] | so yeah all available new Oninitializes get called when ADDON_LOADED is fired |
| 10:20.50 | [Ammo] | which is no real issue |
| 10:21.03 | [Ammo] | they get called in order as well fifo etc |
| 10:21.15 | Arrowmaster | but i guess you can work around that by wraping your oninit with an IsAddOnLoaded() and if it isnt RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED") |
| 10:21.41 | [Ammo] | it's all fine, as long as you know the defined behaviour |
| 10:21.47 | [Ammo] | then you can fix your logic should you require anything weird |
| 10:21.55 | [Ammo] | jerry's fix is not the correct one |
| 10:22.02 | Arrowmaster | is it mentioned in the aceaddon docs? |
| 10:22.28 | [Ammo] | it's in the docs that OnInitialize is fired upon ADDON_LOADED |
| 10:22.51 | [Ammo] | and OnEnable is fired upon PLAYER_LOGIN or ADDON_LOADED and IsLoggedIn() when the addon is LoD |
| 10:23.22 | Arrowmaster | hmm i would add that it could be before your addon is fully loaded |
| 10:23.44 | Arrowmaster | if you cause other addons to load with LoadAddOn() |
| 10:23.46 | [Ammo] | only in fringe cases |
| 10:24.09 | Arrowmaster | since optdeps would get parsed and loaded before any of your own addon |
| 10:24.35 | Arrowmaster | but optdeping Blizzard_CombatLog is just as bad as his hack |
| 10:24.47 | [Ammo] | optdeps are no issue for your addon |
| 10:25.05 | [Ammo] | he might as well optdep the combatlog in his addon |
| 10:25.09 | [Ammo] | since he loads it unconditionally |
| 10:25.14 | Arrowmaster | no he doesnt |
| 10:25.31 | Arrowmaster | another addon could overwrite that function before he calls it |
| 10:25.45 | [Ammo] | hmmok |
| 10:25.55 | [Ammo] | but he should just do his hooks in OnEnable |
| 10:25.58 | Arrowmaster | since that functions exists to be overwriten |
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| 10:27.07 | [Ammo] | his addon is not LoD, so OnEnable will be called on PLAYER_LOGIN -> after combatlog is loaded |
| 10:27.18 | Arrowmaster | wrong |
| 10:27.19 | [Ammo] | so he can safely do the _G.CombatLog_LoadUI() at the end of his file |
| 10:27.25 | [Ammo] | without the ugly hacks |
| 10:27.31 | [Ammo] | and hook SetItemRef in OnEnable |
| 10:27.40 | [Ammo] | which is the proper solution |
| 10:27.41 | Arrowmaster | well as long as he calls CombatLog_LoadUI() then yeah |
| 10:27.45 | [Ammo] | yeah ofcourse |
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| 10:28.50 | Vulcanus | just go fix it dammit |
| 10:28.51 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 10:28.54 | [Ammo] | no |
| 10:28.57 | [Ammo] | I don't use his drek |
| 10:29.03 | Arrowmaster | if it was me i would do something like call CombatLog_LoadUI() on VARIABLES_LOADED then or something just so that any other addons that overwrite it without waiting for any events still could |
| 10:29.23 | Vulcanus | I have no idea what you two are on about, I just see long discussion between you two and surmised it was about an addon :p |
| 10:29.38 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: I'd maybe even call it on OnEnable |
| 10:29.48 | [Ammo] | PLAYER_LOGIN is the best place for it |
| 10:29.55 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 10:30.08 | CIA-43 | 03starlon * r76460 10CombatAlarm/ (CombatAlarm.lua Localization/enUS.lua): |
| 10:30.08 | CIA-43 | CombatAlarm: |
| 10:30.08 | CIA-43 | - Attempt to guess a destination name for SPELL_CAST_START events. Note: the |
| 10:30.08 | CIA-43 | alarm won't fire when the mob opens combat with the spell. Apparently the mob's |
| 10:30.08 | CIA-43 | not actually targeting anything at that precise point. Thanks to profalbert for |
| 10:30.11 | CIA-43 | this suggestion and part of the code. |
| 10:30.11 | Arrowmaster | since the default UI calls it on PLAYER_LOGIN too |
| 10:30.13 | CIA-43 | - Fix a problem where eventType wasn't being checked against alarms. |
| 10:31.11 | Funkeh` | what's wrong with simply opdepping the combat log adon |
| 10:31.19 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: for reasons stated above |
| 10:31.25 | Arrowmaster | then you force it to load |
| 10:31.26 | [Ammo] | overriding the CombatLog_LoadUI() |
| 10:31.34 | [Ammo] | you want people to have the choice to not load it |
| 10:31.37 | [Ammo] | by overriding the func |
| 10:31.43 | Arrowmaster | and his addon does not require it at all |
| 10:31.50 | Funkeh` | who in the right mind won't load it? |
| 10:32.01 | [Ammo] | anyone who has a superior alternative that doesn't blow monkey balls |
| 10:32.25 | Arrowmaster | if somebody writes a full replacement then theres no need to load the default one |
| 10:32.36 | [Ammo] | even a partial replacement that just does what you need |
| 10:32.42 | Funkeh` | who cares, we write full replacements of everything and load it anyway |
| 10:32.48 | Funkeh` | uf, action bars etc |
| 10:33.05 | Arrowmaster | except that blizzard never moved everything out of the combatlog addon so you cant fully replace it yet |
| 10:33.45 | [Ammo] | optdepping it is kinda bad, specially since the addon doesn't need it |
| 10:33.56 | [Ammo] | it just wants to potentially hook a changed function ref |
| 10:34.41 | [Ammo] | he could use his own ADDON_LOADED handler and do a check for IsAddonLoaded() and update his hooks, but shrug |
| 10:34.48 | [Ammo] | his current way is wrong |
| 10:35.24 | Funkeh` | yeah that sounds infinately cleaner |
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| 10:40.14 | Diao | hmm interesting |
| 10:40.25 | Diao | in s4 hunters get dual wield axes for only 650 arena points but there is a rating requirement |
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| 10:40.46 | Jagobah | you sure? |
| 10:40.54 | Jagobah | I thought the axes didn't have a PR requirement |
| 10:41.28 | Diao | http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/may/s4/hunter-hatchet.jpg |
| 10:41.31 | Diao | http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/may/s4/hunter-waraxe.jpg |
| 10:41.34 | Diao | from ptr i assume |
| 10:41.37 | Diao | or something |
| 10:41.46 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: wait why does he need to delay his OnInit being called again? even in his own code right now i dont see why |
| 10:42.23 | [Ammo] | yeah me neither |
| 10:42.28 | [Ammo] | that's why I was baffled initially :) |
| 10:43.00 | [Ammo] | maybe the whole setscript hook is a leftover from his previous solution? |
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| 10:43.57 | Trell_ | Can anyone reccomend a site that explains how to set custom Pitbull Textures? |
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| 10:47.39 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3936.msg223701#msg223701 |
| 10:47.42 | Arrowmaster | am i mean? |
| 10:48.34 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: poke! |
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| 10:51.32 | [Ammo] | sorry had to put the hammer down on some other idiots :p |
| 10:51.57 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 10:52.02 | [Ammo] | I dunno, pretty mean :) |
| 10:52.41 | [Ammo] | you should do the _G.CombatLog_LoadUI() only once |
| 10:52.45 | [Ammo] | with a local first flag |
| 10:52.50 | Arrowmaster | doesnt matter |
| 10:52.54 | [Ammo] | not that his addon can be enabled/disabled |
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| 10:53.27 | Groktar | sends Paris Hilton to sex you up |
| 10:53.52 | Arrowmaster | it would get called more than once anyway |
| 10:54.00 | [Ammo] | oh ok |
| 10:54.06 | Arrowmaster | since the default ui calls it on PLAYER_LOGIN |
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| 10:54.51 | Arrowmaster | but since you cant control which frame receives the event first just call it again on PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 10:55.03 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:55.10 | [Ammo] | doesn't really matter |
| 10:55.15 | [Ammo] | ohwell |
| 10:55.19 | [Ammo] | time for lunch |
| 10:55.27 | [Ammo] | hope jerry doesn' bite your head off :p |
| 10:55.35 | Arrowmaster | hehe |
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| 10:57.27 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 10:57.35 | Arrowmaster | apparently thats for a different issue |
| 10:57.39 | Arrowmaster | that the options arent saved |
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| 11:02.42 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: is there an issue with AceDB-3.0 if you call :New() before the saved vars have been loaded? |
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| 11:13.40 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76461 10StatBlocks_DPS/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:13.40 | CIA-43 | StatBlocks_DPS: |
| 11:13.40 | CIA-43 | - Now calculates the time when the block updates, set 0.1 throttle for live decaying dps. |
| 11:13.40 | CIA-43 | - tooltip hint for clearing the meter |
| 11:13.40 | CIA-43 | - all round cleanups and tweaks |
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| 11:19.34 | Trell_ | Can anyone reccomend a site that explains how to set custom Pitbull Textures? |
| 11:19.50 | [Ammo] | pitbull thread? |
| 11:19.54 | [Ammo] | on forums, I dunno |
| 11:20.01 | Trell_ | never mind |
| 11:20.15 | Trell_ | ive just found the option to use custom textures - although I've been looking for it for about 2 hours |
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| 11:20.24 | Trell_ | dunno how I've missed it every single time I've looked >_< |
| 11:20.41 | ramoz | http://ixo.no/git/oUF.git/ |
| 11:20.48 | ramoz | :O |
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| 11:23.17 | Quezacolt | Wow, I just encountered that same AceDB-3.0 weirdness that Arrowmaster mentioned a few minutes ago |
| 11:24.17 | Quezacolt | had you not mentioned that I'd still be a frustrated little noob. /cheer |
| 11:25.09 | [Ammo] | it's in the docs :p |
| 11:25.45 | Arrowmaster | not the AceDB-3.0 docs |
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| 11:27.00 | [Ammo] | it should be in there |
| 11:27.19 | Arrowmaster | that you cant call :New() before the savedvars have been loaded? |
| 11:27.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont see it |
| 11:27.48 | [Ammo] | hrmf I remember it |
| 11:27.51 | [Ammo] | ohwell |
| 11:27.52 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 11:28.19 | Arrowmaster | and the combination of that and the AceAddon-3.0 OnInit one does cause a bit of a problem |
| 11:29.35 | [Ammo] | this isn't really different from Ace2 |
| 11:29.58 | Arrowmaster | acedb-2.0 was a lot different than acedb-3.0 |
| 11:30.00 | [Ammo] | although Ace2 attempts some guesswork based on your addon name and the adodn object name |
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| 11:30.42 | [Ammo] | with Ace3 we want people to think about wtf they're doing instead of adding a few thousand lines of code to make sure people are spoonfed |
| 11:31.03 | Soeters | does someone use oCD? |
| 11:31.41 | Arrowmaster | except now you need to spoonfeed everybody all the little details about ace3 |
| 11:31.59 | [Ammo] | not really, only those doing silly stuff |
| 11:32.15 | Arrowmaster | using LoadAddOn() isnt silly |
| 11:32.52 | [Ammo] | I use it myself too, but never from the body of my addon always from OnInit or later |
| 11:33.01 | [Ammo] | which immediately fixes all your issues |
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| 11:44.26 | Soeters | Can someone help me with oCD because I can't see any icon or bar (like phanx) for CD |
| 11:46.34 | Groktar | idk, never used it |
| 11:46.53 | Groktar | are there any config options in the interface options? |
| 11:47.32 | Soeters | no we must modify the code like for oUF or pMinimap to configure them |
| 11:47.46 | Stanzilla | you have to add your spells to the db |
| 11:48.05 | Soeters | how do I do that |
| 11:48.50 | Stanzilla | in the files |
| 11:49.15 | Soeters | in ocd.lua? |
| 11:49.51 | Stanzilla | yeah, line 33 |
| 11:50.02 | Soeters | or in bars.lua (sorry but I'm not very good in lua I just started understanding this since 1 week ^^) |
| 11:50.11 | Stanzilla | http://ixo.no/git/oCD.git/tree/ocd.lua?h=2.4 < |
| 11:50.34 | Stanzilla | http://ixo.no/git/oCD.git/tree/ocd.lua?h=2.4#n33 even |
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| 11:50.45 | CIA-43 | 03feithar * r76462 10FBagOfHolding/ (FBagOfHolding.toc Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 11:50.45 | CIA-43 | FBagOfHolding: |
| 11:50.45 | CIA-43 | - Added German translations for the WoWAce forums. |
| 11:51.24 | Soeters | thanks Stanzilla I'll try ^^ |
| 11:53.20 | Soeters | because my ocd.lua doesn't look like this at all |
| 11:54.14 | Stanzilla | maybe you have the old version not the 2.4 one |
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| 11:57.19 | Soeters | Yeah i think that too but where can we get the atest one because it was on his git |
| 11:57.36 | Soeters | oh I found |
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| 12:09.24 | Pkekyo| | ~tennis |
| 12:09.27 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, tennis is a sport and that is too much effort. |
| 12:09.36 | thul | tennis is for girly men. |
| 12:09.50 | Pkekyo| | purl no, tennis is in fact ping-pong being played whilst standing on the table |
| 12:09.51 | purl | Pkekyo|: okay |
| 12:09.55 | Pkekyo| | ~tennis |
| 12:09.56 | purl | methinks tennis is in fact ping-pong being played whilst standing on the table |
| 12:09.58 | Pkekyo| | oh hai thul |
| 12:10.15 | thul | OH HAI |
| 12:11.12 | Tenchworks | still requires too much effort |
| 12:12.08 | Pkekyo| | true, but the ping pong factoid is more amusing...besides, Carlin said it :) |
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| 12:12.18 | thul | billhicks > georgecarlin |
| 12:12.18 | thul | :-P |
| 12:12.19 | Tenchworks | hehe |
| 12:15.15 | Pkekyo| | oh fuck you sideways |
| 12:15.26 | Pkekyo| | he's an amateur compared to carlin |
| 12:15.34 | Pkekyo| | carlin > stephen lynch > all :p |
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| 12:17.47 | thul | pfft |
| 12:17.49 | thul | hicks > * |
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| 12:34.14 | Pkekyo| | dream on thul |
| 12:39.04 | thul | Pkekyo|: i always do |
| 12:39.12 | thul | you just don't get hicks :-P |
| 12:39.15 | thul | but I have to go to work! |
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| 13:02.13 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: thats no "issue", it just wont save your stuff properly. You shoul only call :New after ADDON_LOADED, meaning in OnInitiliaze |
| 13:02.27 | nevcairiel | its a design decision |
| 13:02.48 | [Ammo] | the problem is when you use LoadAddOn() in the body of your files |
| 13:02.55 | [Ammo] | that will trigger an addonloaded |
| 13:03.13 | [Ammo] | and if you have already called NewAddon for Ace3 -> your OnInitialize fires when not all your files are loaded |
| 13:03.17 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 13:03.26 | [Ammo] | design decision and you can easily work around it |
| 13:03.41 | nevcairiel | why would you call LoadAddOn in your main chunk anyway |
| 13:03.59 | [Ammo] | ask jerry :p |
| 13:04.00 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt be doing anything in the main chunk, except setting up data structures |
| 13:04.01 | [Ammo] | he does it :) |
| 13:04.09 | [Ammo] | I agree |
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| 13:08.47 | ExiztenceFL | erhmm , I have a problem with part of letters dissappearing on my Unit Frames I've recently switched to different font and I would prefer not having to part with it , any idea what can it be causing this issue ? |
| 13:11.37 | Olison | .c test |
| 13:11.38 | mruseful | Error: Please provide a Realmname |
| 13:11.43 | Olison | onoes spam |
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| 13:17.12 | dylanm | ExiztenceFL: You're using PitBull? Do you have a screenshot? |
| 13:17.53 | ExiztenceFL | http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll131/Exiztence/WoWScrnShot_061108_151522.jpg?t=1213190200 |
| 13:19.44 | VonhintenHOME` | jesus, that font makes me want to hurt something |
| 13:20.05 | ExiztenceFL | Noone forces you to use it |
| 13:20.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, but that fact doesn't make it less horrible |
| 13:20.33 | ExiztenceFL | I believe that's question of taste |
| 13:20.41 | dylanm | You're concerned about the "V" in "Vicious"? |
| 13:20.44 | SunTsu | ExiztenceFL: I know why you wouldn't want to part from it. You just figured out how to read it, right? ;) |
| 13:20.45 | VonhintenHOME` | It is, that font tastes like shit |
| 13:20.47 | ramoz | I like the fint |
| 13:20.48 | ExiztenceFL | yes dylanm |
| 13:20.53 | cubicool | someone's been drinking haterade |
| 13:21.05 | ExiztenceFL | it's just cosmetic :( |
| 13:21.14 | ramoz | You use cosmetics? |
| 13:21.46 | ExiztenceFL | I mean cosmetic defect , the missing part of letter . |
| 13:21.50 | VonhintenHOME` | Probably, ExiztenceFL is a female, based on that font choice... |
| 13:22.16 | ExiztenceFL | nope I am not |
| 13:22.21 | ExiztenceFL | I just like perfection. |
| 13:22.39 | dylanm | That's an odd one. It kind of seems like something block-shaped is clipping you off. Does it happen with any length of name? |
| 13:22.54 | harldephin | damn, i forgot to increase Elephants log size to 500000 lines after updating it. |
| 13:22.55 | dylanm | When you target yourself, for example. |
| 13:23.06 | harldephin | now it's cut off my logs again. d'oh! |
| 13:23.09 | ExiztenceFL | nope |
| 13:23.50 | ExiztenceFL | seems it clips W and V |
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| 13:24.16 | dylanm | Regardless of where they are? |
| 13:24.16 | ExiztenceFL | when they are capital |
| 13:24.30 | VonhintenHOME` | it's cutting off a lot more than that... the descender on the G is clipped too |
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| 13:25.51 | VonhintenHOME` | Does that font appear correctly in an RTF document? |
| 13:26.43 | ExiztenceFL | second |
| 13:28.17 | ExiztenceFL | yes it does |
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| 13:34.30 | thul | I'm (still) trying to put together a decent desktop, not a gaming monster by any means, so far I'm doing intel c2d e8400 (3ghz, 6mb 1333mhz), hitatchi deskstar 7k 1TB disk for filesaving and a samsung spinpoint 160GB for OS, an Abit ix38-quadGT mainboard, 4gb ddr2 6400 ram and an asus geforce 8800 gt 1GB gddr3 pci-e v2.0 600 mhz... |
| 13:34.36 | thul | any large objections? |
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| 13:37.35 | Soeters | can somenone help me with oCD? |
| 13:40.49 | pb_ee1 | Yeah, use Quartz |
| 13:40.51 | pb_ee1 | (haha) |
| 13:42.23 | vithos | thul: the 160GB disk is 10k rpm? |
| 13:43.02 | thul | vithos: mhm, that is why I have it as a os disk, small and fast, any suggestions? i tried finding out what disks fit best for this |
| 13:43.06 | thul | raptor or something? |
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| 13:43.22 | vithos | i have a raptor in my current system, my suggestion is to save your cash, it's not worth it |
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| 13:43.40 | thul | hmm, just get a normal 7200 100GB and use that for os? |
| 13:43.42 | vithos | especially compared to the I/O rates provided by today's high density disks (like the 1TB you're getting) |
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| 13:44.03 | vithos | higher density at the same rotational speed = higher transfer rate |
| 13:44.22 | thul | so i should just scrap the idea of a small disk for os? :-P |
| 13:44.27 | vithos | i would |
| 13:44.32 | thul | ok |
| 13:44.48 | SunTsu | thul: You wouldn't want 10k rpm, the sound of it would drive you crazy |
| 13:44.54 | vithos | might still be a good idea to have a seperate partition to make it easier to start fresh whenever |
| 13:44.57 | thul | my friends at xkcd suggest that I should software raid5 3x500GB instead of 1x1TB |
| 13:45.14 | thul | I always make one 15GB partition for os :-P |
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| 13:45.24 | ncd|Aileen | xkcd <3 |
| 13:45.43 | fooxor | i can't see you over there! |
| 13:45.45 | thul | the xkcd-signal irc-channel is even more <3 :-P |
| 13:45.51 | thul | I'm lucifer, and I'm in signal :-) |
| 13:45.59 | ncd|Aileen | which network? |
| 13:46.02 | thul | foonetic |
| 13:46.10 | thul | irc.foonetic.org #xkcd-signal |
| 13:46.10 | vithos | yeah, a raid5 would be even better. the only thing about raid5 (which is to say that it's better to have no raid at all) is that it's not expandable |
| 13:46.32 | vithos | raid5 also has integrity issues, it's called the "write hole" |
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| 13:46.45 | Pkekyo| | thul: go SSD damnit |
| 13:46.59 | thul | Pkekyo|: right :-P after today's article about ps3-speeds? :-P |
| 13:47.51 | vithos | WTB ZFS for windows |
| 13:48.13 | jy` | vithos: do want ! |
| 13:48.23 | SunTsu | WTB working ZFS for FreeBSD ;) |
| 13:48.27 | thul | hehe, I'm planning to run osx on this thing, that is the main problem, getting compatible stuff. |
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| 13:49.02 | vithos | ah, nice. so you actually could do ZFS |
| 13:49.14 | sica | I really look forward to 10.6 with ZFS-Support |
| 13:49.29 | vithos | no idea what the state of the project is, like if you could boot off a RAID-Z pool or what |
| 13:49.30 | ncd|Aileen | WTB ZFS for Linux ;( |
| 13:51.26 | Pkekyo| | thul: what article? |
| 13:51.39 | thul | Pkekyo|: itavisen, about ssd speeds in ps3 |
| 13:52.51 | Pkekyo| | you read that shitty thing? |
| 13:53.57 | Tinyboom | link:) |
| 13:54.08 | Pkekyo| | thul: it's ONE single type of drive that've been tested in PS3s |
| 13:54.29 | Pkekyo| | Tinyboom: PMed |
| 13:56.05 | thul | Pkekyo|: we don't have anything BUT shitty papers |
| 13:56.24 | Pkekyo| | indeed...but still, that's a prime example of utter shite |
| 13:56.29 | Pkekyo| | (it-avisen, that is) |
| 13:56.30 | Tinyboom | lol |
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| 13:56.40 | Tinyboom | itavisen: kin of copy paste:p |
| 13:56.43 | Pkekyo| | it's basicly a publicated Apple fanboy |
| 13:56.50 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
| 13:56.51 | Tinyboom | s/kin/king/ |
| 13:57.06 | Pkekyo| | all they really do is poorly translate articles from IDG.se |
| 13:57.26 | Tinyboom | and other big foreign news sites:p |
| 13:58.00 | Tinyboom | but they are nice for checking the original news since they usually put in their sources:p |
| 13:58.35 | Pkekyo| | yeah...but you always discover that they only copy-pasted half the original article or so, and spun it so that it translates into 'apple is awesome' |
| 14:00.24 | thul | Pkekyo|: erhm? tore neset in itavisen _hates_ apple |
| 14:00.30 | thul | kudos for sucky observational skills :-P |
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| 14:01.14 | thul | I have the opposite experience from you. Tore Neset (and itavisen) is high on the "let us bash apple"-list. |
| 14:01.38 | Pkekyo| | thul: it seems they fluctuate between the two in periods |
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| 14:02.04 | thul | that might be, but I have yet to see tore neset really positive about an apple product:P |
| 14:02.11 | thul | but yes, it is shit. |
| 14:02.12 | Pkekyo| | this spring it was 100% apple love and fanboy flamewars....haven't read it since march though |
| 14:02.26 | thul | as most norwegian newspapers, both in paper and electronic form |
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| 14:03.12 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 14:03.18 | masterkiller | so another big raiding guild, forte, disbanded. i know a lot of people have different opinions about how Blizz is changing their target audience but raiding guilds sure are taking a beating |
| 14:03.23 | Pkekyo| | local newspapers are the only thing worth reading tbh |
| 14:03.31 | masterkiller | ah i've been to norway 3 times, not easy for an american =P |
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| 14:04.25 | Pkekyo| | heh, I'd imagine |
| 14:04.39 | cubicool | S4 is going to be retarded. |
| 14:04.45 | masterkiller | imo blizz really needs to put some focus back into raiding guilds |
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| 14:04.55 | SunTsu | masterkiller: I just read two interviews about raiding guilds on german buffed magazine, most of them blamed blizzard for too little content. I was just thinking "Then don't invest your whole life for tearing down the content that is there, so that you can complain it is down" |
| 14:05.27 | masterkiller | suntsu, lol yes i can see that. but blizz could have put their developers on more content instead of the expansion |
| 14:05.37 | sica | masterkiller: like what? a new raid-zone every 2-3 months? |
| 14:05.56 | masterkiller | sica, or every 3-6 months |
| 14:06.01 | Matrix110| | well TBC has almost no raid content |
| 14:06.15 | SunTsu | masterkiller: Still they will tear it down as fast as possible, investing even more time, complaining even more |
| 14:06.20 | Matrix110| | But I can understand Blizzard, it takes lots of time to create and only 1% of the customers will see it anytime |
| 14:06.27 | masterkiller | its obvious they are emphasizing casual players (nothing wrong with that) and their expansion |
| 14:06.38 | masterkiller | matrix thats not true about the 1% at all |
| 14:07.17 | SunTsu | masterkiller: 1.5%? |
| 14:07.21 | Pkekyo| | masterkiller: seeing it in bosskill movies doesn't count :p |
| 14:07.29 | Matrix110| | less than 1% |
| 14:07.32 | masterkiller | for one, instead of taking the whole subscriber base and coming up with the 1% use the people that get online say 2 or 3 times a week for a total of 6 hours and up |
| 14:07.51 | masterkiller | that 1% is a statistic that someone came up with to prove a point |
| 14:08.00 | cubicool | When "raids" are 10-mannable in WotLK, I think more people will see "raid" content. |
| 14:08.01 | masterkiller | thats people with subscription that dont play, mules, and whatnot |
| 14:08.14 | thul | I want a tshirt that says |
| 14:08.16 | thul | religion |
| 14:08.24 | thul | %/s/religion/science |
| 14:08.33 | masterkiller | also, at one point SSC/TK was "end content" and that "1%" is far from it |
| 14:08.48 | Pkekyo| | cubicool: yes, because everyone is farming BWL and Naxxramas now... :) |
| 14:08.50 | cubicool | haha, regex ur god! |
| 14:09.06 | sica | cubicool: for the beginner-raids maybe, but 10-man-raids leave less space for individual mistakes |
| 14:09.11 | cubicool | Pkekyo|: No, you're not understanding me. |
| 14:09.23 | Matrix110| | WoWJutsu has 55k guilds 3.6% of them were in Sunwell 1980guilds avg. lets say ~40players per guilds makes it ~80k players thats of the 5mio players in EU/US 1,6% |
| 14:09.25 | cubicool | All "raids" in WotLK apparently have a 10-man option. |
| 14:09.31 | thul | Pkekyo|: I want a 5d MKII :-( |
| 14:09.55 | masterkiller | 10mans are fun but i much prefer the 25's over 10's and 25's over 40's. 40's were just 15 people doing the work and 25 people there for brute force |
| 14:10.02 | masterkiller | but thats my opinion =P |
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| 14:10.03 | dylanm | Naxx was just bad timing. |
| 14:10.13 | Pkekyo| | cubicool: so basicly...heroics...? |
| 14:10.28 | masterkiller | dylanm, dude exactly. they could have came out with naxx MUUUCH faster but all their dev's were working on TBC |
| 14:11.12 | cubicool | Theres no reason to hate on 10 man raids. |
| 14:11.14 | masterkiller | i know we wont change what blizz is going to do, they need to make money. but the fact that these guilds are disbanding for lack of interest has got to speak volumes |
| 14:11.15 | cubicool | That's just elitism. |
| 14:11.19 | Matrix110| | Naxx was really nice content |
| 14:11.25 | Matrix110| | the timing as utter bullshit though |
| 14:11.44 | SunTsu | masterkiller: Why would Blizz really care about 1.6% of it's players? |
| 14:11.51 | masterkiller | cubicool, i dont think it's elitism, i just dont think they are as fun |
| 14:12.02 | SunTsu | masterkiller: Why would blizz build more and more stuff that 1.6% see? |
| 14:12.06 | cubicool | Well, as long as that remains subjective, I think we're all good. :) |
| 14:12.19 | cubicool | I just don't see how you can get along w/ 24 other people... |
| 14:12.22 | Matrix110| | masterkiller Blizzard has enough money in cash to let wow running 5years without anyone paying :P |
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| 14:12.37 | masterkiller | suntsu, because that 1.6% (which is what at this point, the number of people killing 4 bosses in Sunwell or something?) is something the rest of us strive for |
| 14:12.52 | Matrix110| | no masterkiller the guilds that have killed 1 or more boss in Sunwell |
| 14:13.02 | masterkiller | when the highest skilled players move on players are going to follow |
| 14:13.07 | Matrix110| | or have trash epix |
| 14:13.20 | masterkiller | like i said, at one point ssc was "1%" |
| 14:13.29 | masterkiller | naxx is the only place you can use that example |
| 14:13.38 | masterkiller | everything else may start at 1% but eventually is muuuch greater |
| 14:13.41 | masterkiller | people see the ocntent |
| 14:13.46 | Matrix110| | SSC is around 16% atm |
| 14:13.54 | SunTsu | masterkiller: I think you have a misconception there. I don't think that those raids guilds are the most skilled players, they are just the most dedicated |
| 14:13.54 | masterkiller | exactly so almot 1 outa 5 people |
| 14:14.13 | dylanm | The game is not hard. |
| 14:14.35 | masterkiller | no its not hard, but it takes a lot of teamwork and effort to progress |
| 14:14.43 | Pkekyo| | masterkiller: mind you, ALOT of high-end guilds have alts farming SSC/TK all over again.... |
| 14:14.49 | cubicool | teamwork is hard. |
| 14:14.49 | SunTsu | masterkiller: And I, for instance, don#t wnat to be like them. I want to see SW, yeah, but I still want that when all those Uber raid guilds are gone |
| 14:15.29 | masterkiller | suntsu, me too we are trying to get illidan before end of june. thats our goal we dont care about other guilds or how far behind we are. but soon as that is done i can tell you we are finished |
| 14:15.40 | masterkiller | there is nothing keeping us to work hard into sunwell |
| 14:15.47 | masterkiller | it'll all be replaced in a few months |
| 14:15.55 | Matrix110| | BT/MH is cake |
| 14:15.59 | Matrix110| | easy encounters |
| 14:16.06 | masterkiller | offtopic |
| 14:16.07 | Matrix110| | no complicated strategys |
| 14:16.12 | masterkiller | its not hard but takes work |
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| 14:16.29 | dylanm | You still need some leadership. |
| 14:16.32 | SunTsu | masterkiller: Yes, that's it, it takes time. Exactly what I am saying |
| 14:16.39 | Matrix110| | it takes work if you are doing the instance with 10 good people and the rest dont have a brain :P |
| 14:16.49 | masterkiller | and there needs to be a reason to dedicate this much time |
| 14:16.54 | mykx | ugh we do BT/Hyjal with t4 geared alts, it really doesn't require much |
| 14:17.10 | SunTsu | masterkiller: Yeah. It's fun. |
| 14:17.14 | masterkiller | alright guys stroking the epeens is of topic |
| 14:17.19 | masterkiller | its about learning what to do |
| 14:17.23 | masterkiller | and learning what to do takes time |
| 14:17.23 | ExiztenceFL | A new guild with good leadership and players can clear hyjal in 2 or 3 weeks max after killing KT |
| 14:17.23 | SunTsu | masterkiller: Those guilds confuse WoW with life |
| 14:17.42 | Matrix110| | ExiztenceFL there is no reason to even kill KT |
| 14:17.46 | Matrix110| | hes harder than whole BT :P |
| 14:17.48 | Matrix110| | (or atleast was) |
| 14:17.52 | ExiztenceFL | yes he was |
| 14:18.02 | SunTsu | Matrix110|: But for the fun of it ;) |
| 14:18.09 | Matrix110| | its a nice encounter ye |
| 14:18.15 | ExiztenceFL | he is not now , I was just makin sure you won't assume by ''new'' guild greenhorns in KZ :P |
| 14:18.38 | Matrix110| | ah |
| 14:18.38 | Matrix110| | ok |
| 14:19.02 | Matrix110| | Well SSC/TK have besides some nice parts only crap items that you can replace with badge items |
| 14:19.15 | VonhintenHOME` | Is KT tougher than Archimonde? |
| 14:19.16 | Matrix110| | which I dont like atleast |
| 14:19.17 | ExiztenceFL | friend's guild killed KT at 12th and now they are 6/9 and 5/5 |
| 14:19.20 | Matrix110| | yes VonhintenHOME` |
| 14:19.23 | ExiztenceFL | 12th may* |
| 14:19.33 | ExiztenceFL | he used to be hard |
| 14:19.34 | mykx | yeah all that archimonde requires is for your raid not to suffer from down syndrome |
| 14:19.35 | ExiztenceFL | back prenerfs |
| 14:19.40 | mykx | KT requires somewhat coordination |
| 14:19.48 | ExiztenceFL | not as much as it used tho |
| 14:19.53 | Matrix110| | or well I dont know how easy KT is now with the nerfs |
| 14:19.54 | ExiztenceFL | it used to be unforgiving |
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| 14:20.03 | SunTsu | Matrix110|: Yeah, getting ready for BT/MH is real easy now |
| 14:20.06 | VonhintenHOME` | Does it require everyone to be coordinated, or can a group of key people be coordinated and get it done? |
| 14:20.23 | masterkiller | KT > MH |
| 14:20.25 | ExiztenceFL | Matrix110 : imagien in P3 ppl dpsing whatever they want and still gettin all adds down in time , about that nerfed :p |
| 14:20.34 | masterkiller | but KT is way fun |
| 14:20.45 | Matrix110| | ExiztenceFL :D |
| 14:20.47 | sica | hm, IMHO KT is harder than any BT-Encounter |
| 14:21.08 | ExiztenceFL | coz BT and Hyjal have complex strategies with longtime learning curve |
| 14:21.13 | ExiztenceFL | :/ |
| 14:21.26 | VonhintenHOME` | My guild has a core of about 15 people that can do most of the coordination stuff required by any encounter, like Lady Vashj... but on a fight where everyone has to stay alive... we just don't have 25 people that know how to stay alive |
| 14:21.37 | VonhintenHOME` | which makes Archimonde really tough |
| 14:21.57 | ExiztenceFL | Well my alts guild |
| 14:22.05 | ExiztenceFL | they are really good people , tho not so progressed atm |
| 14:22.14 | ExiztenceFL | they got Archi down in lke 2 hours tries for first time |
| 14:22.14 | mykx | you know i'm not trying to sound arrogant here but I have no idea why some people find archimonde so rough it's a simple matter of clicking an item within 5 seconds and not standing in huge patches of fire |
| 14:22.33 | masterkiller | vonhinten, right on dude that is reality and it takes work to build the right 25 people. the difficulty is keeping the player base interested and motivated enough to work however hard it takes to get it down |
| 14:22.44 | ExiztenceFL | And you bring some consumables just incase of RNG |
| 14:22.55 | masterkiller | everything seems easy once you've done it |
| 14:23.13 | VonhintenHOME` | well, building the right 25 man isn't really an option, we're stuck with the duds |
| 14:23.15 | kalahassi | xperl shows the mobs hp with 114k , is there a way to see it not-shortened ? |
| 14:23.32 | Zicon | mykx: And then you get Grip and Air Burst at the same time, and the Soul Charge kills the people who mis-timed their Tears due to lag, and BOOM! It's a wipe! |
| 14:23.39 | ExiztenceFL | it takes 1 try to get decent idea of encounter |
| 14:23.43 | mykx | VonhintenHOME`: I know how that can be but if you get a little more progressed with those 'duds' you can recruit some better players |
| 14:23.43 | Matrix110| | mykx the problem there is people not looking at their screen properly and moving too late |
| 14:23.49 | masterkiller | vonhinten, and that'll only get worse as the skilled players go to other games |
| 14:23.51 | ExiztenceFL | yet after 10th try some ppl still die to Air Bursts , that's what fails. |
| 14:24.02 | Matrix110| | start punishing them :P |
| 14:24.06 | Zicon | There is too much ¤#%#¤&"¤% BAD LUCK happening with Archimonde. |
| 14:24.09 | ExiztenceFL | not my case luckily |
| 14:24.16 | ExiztenceFL | oneshotting for quite sometime now |
| 14:24.19 | masterkiller | the action and the competition is going to follow the skilled players. its the same in sports and business |
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| 14:24.28 | VonhintenHOME` | archimonde needs to allow for a few deaths before it punishes the whole raid |
| 14:24.34 | Matrix110| | the best day is when your guilds stops Hyjal :D |
| 14:24.45 | Matrix110| | its the most annoying instance imho |
| 14:24.47 | ExiztenceFL | well 4/6 SWP and comin to Hyjal for alts :/ |
| 14:25.04 | ExiztenceFL | but hey it's ''ok'' cash at end |
| 14:25.17 | ExiztenceFL | you get what 11 badges and like 40g ? |
| 14:25.21 | masterkiller | exiztencefl, once again its easy when you have people that know what to do and execute it well |
| 14:25.22 | Matrix110| | And the most annoying part is that you normally got every damn part of loot besides some random Items from archi... |
| 14:25.33 | Zicon | I like Hyjal, if only because it's not BT. God, that place is dreary. |
| 14:25.47 | ExiztenceFL | masterkiller : back when I was progressing on Archimonde I never understood why people died even multiple times |
| 14:25.54 | masterkiller | exiztencfl, like vonhinten said sometimes recruiting people that dont mess up is going to be harder and harder |
| 14:25.56 | mykx | haha zicon most of the people I speak to hate hyjal but don't mind BT |
| 14:26.02 | Matrix110| | Wouldve made so much more sense if Blizzard wouldve made it 2xT6 and 2x Random loot instead of 3xT6 and 1x Random loot |
| 14:26.13 | mykx | I think its because if you mess up you gotta start all over again |
| 14:26.16 | ExiztenceFL | I hate BT , don't mind Hyjal |
| 14:26.16 | VonhintenHOME` | hyjal is infuriating when you have a guild that takes a couple attempts to "remember" how to beat the boss... |
| 14:26.21 | sica | I really really hate Hyjal, it's so boring |
| 14:26.28 | ExiztenceFL | Hyjal is better to BT |
| 14:26.30 | Zicon | After all the blacks and browns in BT for three weeks, green is very, very welcome. |
| 14:26.31 | ExiztenceFL | coz it's faster |
| 14:26.43 | masterkiller | exiztencefl you are also a skilled player and surrounded by skilled players. its harder when half th raid is bright enough to click on an item when they are tossed in the air and the other half cant figure that out |
| 14:27.05 | Zicon | And with one more Hyjal clear, I'll be exalted with those bastards... |
| 14:27.05 | ExiztenceFL | Yes but this game doesn't require any special class knowledge |
| 14:27.14 | ExiztenceFL | at end it's common sense and reaction to daily situations |
| 14:27.27 | ExiztenceFL | flame appears next to me , I keep smokin my cigarette or I run away |
| 14:27.30 | mykx | ExiztenceFL: I would say that about the majority of the content but imo m'uru/KJ DO require a degree of skill |
| 14:27.45 | Zicon | exiztencefl: You light your cigarette and THEN run away, obviously. |
| 14:27.49 | ExiztenceFL | yes but I believe we were discussing Archimone :D |
| 14:28.07 | mykx | true true :) |
| 14:28.12 | masterkiller | blizz's whole strategy of increasing item quality so much shows they only planned for this expansion to last a very short period of time. the next expansion they said they will not be doing that which shows either they learned from their mistakes or they plan for the expansion to last a long time |
| 14:28.41 | TNSe | masterkiller? :P |
| 14:28.46 | ExiztenceFL | I liked PreTBC encounters more not bringing in SWP |
| 14:28.53 | TNSe | didnt you notice how item quality went out of control in naxx too ? :P |
| 14:29.07 | masterkiller | exiztencfl, doesnt require special class knowledge? now youa re just being silly. when you need X amount of dps and you have an affliction warlock with freaking crit gems doing 500dps tell me you would allow that in your guild |
| 14:29.28 | cubicool | lulz... |
| 14:29.35 | mykx | tell him to respec destro and he can spam sbolts and win, really doesn't require much knowledge there |
| 14:29.38 | ExiztenceFL | What class knowledge do you need to possess in order to react to flame spawns close to you or gettin Air Bursted |
| 14:29.53 | masterkiller | that is not a dps race fight |
| 14:30.01 | masterkiller | or how about tanks that understand tanking mechanics |
| 14:30.03 | Matrix110| | Mages can blink ExiztenceFL they should know that:P |
| 14:30.10 | ExiztenceFL | :D |
| 14:30.18 | masterkiller | it requires some knowledge to make it far |
| 14:30.24 | masterkiller | people willing to do their homework |
| 14:30.24 | TNSe | affli with crit gems? |
| 14:30.27 | ExiztenceFL | well it's mostly DPS dieing as , well healers can keep them up :D |
| 14:30.28 | TNSe | he clearly knows something I dont. |
| 14:30.37 | masterkiller | tell me that your guild doesnt read up and do their homework |
| 14:31.08 | masterkiller | tnse, exactly my point it DOES require knowledge, work, and skill. the more of those 3 you have the faster you progress, the less you have of those 3 the slower if at all |
| 14:31.31 | TNSe | well |
| 14:31.41 | TNSe | my opinion of pve is kinda noncomplex |
| 14:31.41 | mykx | knowledge and work yes but skill I would say no unless you are talking about the end of SWP |
| 14:31.44 | TNSe | skill helps in learning process |
| 14:31.46 | TNSe | but its not required |
| 14:31.48 | masterkiller | exiztencefl, you are dumbing down the requirements far to much, not everyone is in the same situation |
| 14:31.49 | TNSe | gear is required. |
| 14:31.59 | ExiztenceFL | I was merely commenting to the fact that when you said degree of skill I assumed classwise thus the reason you wipe on Archimonde is very likely to be caused by people failing at fire or clickin Tears as like it or not considering you are in MH you are likely to posess some class knowledge :P |
| 14:32.08 | TNSe | good gear can compensate for skill during learning |
| 14:32.16 | TNSe | but in the end experience and gear is far more important .P |
| 14:32.22 | masterkiller | exiztencefl, i can agree with that |
| 14:32.31 | TNSe | adn then you can argue that picking right gear and talents & spec is skill |
| 14:32.52 | ExiztenceFL | the only reason why you are on Archimonde with 0 class knowledge is that you are ebayer or playing friends account ( Like I did sometimes ) |
| 14:32.54 | VonhintenHOME` | Our first attempt, we had someone get the curse, then get blasted... died... then the whole raid is getting nailed with 4500 dmg |
| 14:33.11 | SunTsu | ExiztenceFL: You'd be surprised how long people can get along without knowing anything about their class |
| 14:33.17 | TNSe | dude |
| 14:33.23 | TNSe | so far in TBC, I've seen |
| 14:33.34 | TNSe | priests using flash heal, dont know what prayer of mending is |
| 14:33.58 | mykx | well if you have the mana regen to support it topping up with flash heal is ok but not as a primary :P |
| 14:33.58 | masterkiller | tnse, exactly |
| 14:33.58 | SunTsu | ExiztenceFL: Just stick to lists and guides somebody else made up and just do what you are told |
| 14:34.16 | TNSe | mykx, 99% flash heal, 1% desperate prayer |
| 14:34.20 | TNSe | over 1 entire bt clear. |
| 14:34.26 | mykx | lol awful |
| 14:34.34 | masterkiller | yea man it happens =/ |
| 14:34.39 | TNSe | 0 binding heal, 0 renew, 0 prayer of mending, 0 gheal |
| 14:34.42 | ExiztenceFL | TNSe , I am playing hunter there are pretty much 2 specs for them and 2 macros to DPS with unless you are confident with manual weaving but yes I met some idiots who can't spec CookieCutter BM at T6 level and that is sad :/ |
| 14:34.43 | TNSe | and he was specced CoH |
| 14:34.50 | masterkiller | even though we've gone from 40 to 25 you can still drag players along that have little knowledge of their class mechanics |
| 14:34.53 | TNSe | oh yeah |
| 14:34.56 | TNSe | dont get me started on hunters |
| 14:35.03 | masterkiller | HAHAHA |
| 14:35.06 | sica | hm, I once healed a complete BT run with CoH - it was fun :) |
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| 14:35.11 | mykx | masterkiller: this is completely untrue when you are talking about the end of sunwell |
| 14:35.17 | mykx | BT/hyjal ? sure |
| 14:35.25 | TNSe | we had 1 hunter with a caster pet that died all the time. and he didnt want to waste mana on ressing pet. |
| 14:35.32 | TNSe | we had 1 hunter who was unable to move out of fire. |
| 14:35.42 | ExiztenceFL | I know a clicker with glaive |
| 14:35.48 | ExiztenceFL | clicker rogue :/ |
| 14:35.50 | TNSe | we had 1 hunter who used aspect of viper and used multi/arcane shot on every cd |
| 14:36.00 | TNSe | we had 1 hunter that didnt want to click ready until she had prayer of spirit |
| 14:36.09 | masterkiller | mykx, so it requires a lot of individual skill and with players having very little motivation to push forward with their hard work and their accomplishments being trivialized by blizzard, THAT is something we will see less then 1% of reaching |
| 14:36.30 | masterkiller | personally that sounds awesome and they should provide more instances like that. |
| 14:36.34 | TNSe | I've seen a hunter that preferred 10 AP/2mp5 gems in every socket |
| 14:36.36 | ExiztenceFL | And hunters are like hard to play of DPS classes :/ ohh who am I kiddin there is hardly DPS class using more then 3 buttons and some CDs |
| 14:36.45 | TNSe | I' |
| 14:36.55 | TNSe | I've had a hunter leave a heroic group because 'we have no crowd control'. |
| 14:37.00 | sica | ExiztenceFL: shadowpriests are "hard" |
| 14:37.05 | mykx | well you know it's the last raid encounter of BC so I don't think you will be seeing badge content that's as good so why not lol |
| 14:37.12 | masterkiller | but with the path that blizz is taking there isnt enough motivaiton other then "i did it" which is great for some players but lets be honest...the majority of raiders do it for gear and pride |
| 14:37.23 | TNSe | but to be honest |
| 14:37.27 | TNSe | I've seen so many shit shamans |
| 14:37.30 | TNSe | after alliance got it |
| 14:37.31 | ExiztenceFL | Last time I said I did it was KT ! |
| 14:37.38 | dylanm | Just spam chain heal what's the problem |
| 14:37.39 | ExiztenceFL | nerd scream inc back then :/ |
| 14:37.55 | ExiztenceFL | Kael'thas btw not Kel :p |
| 14:37.58 | masterkiller | dps takes a lot of out of raid work, healing and tanking a lot of in raid work |
| 14:37.58 | TNSe | the problems are many |
| 14:38.08 | *** join/#wowace Xuuri (n=anchasta@207-119-117-203.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 14:38.14 | TNSe | 1: Using earth shield on self when there is 0 chance he'll take damage |
| 14:38.22 | TNSe | 2: not using any shield at all |
| 14:38.29 | TNSe | 3: not tossing totems because "its a waste of time" |
| 14:38.40 | TNSe | 4: using primal suicide cloth (tailoring) |
| 14:38.51 | sacarasc | gkick 'em |
| 14:38.52 | VonhintenHOME` | wow |
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| 14:39.00 | TNSe | 5: needing on cloth/leather with spirit that is a downgrade in int/+heal |
| 14:39.30 | mykx | 3: not tossing totems because "its a waste of time" |
| 14:39.32 | TNSe | 6: refusing to help interrupting because it "costs too much mana and creates too much aggro" |
| 14:39.35 | mykx | that's instant grounds for a gkick |
| 14:39.39 | SunTsu | TNSe: 6. Putting up totems that will pull adds eventually |
| 14:39.40 | TNSe | 7: Not knowing what purge is. |
| 14:39.53 | Kalroth_ | 8: Too dumb to use the proper instance entrance. |
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| 14:39.59 | sacarasc | I'm guilty of 7 |
| 14:40.00 | sacarasc | :D |
| 14:40.04 | ExiztenceFL | the problem is that all of these people think how good they are at playing at their class and don't find it necessary to research in order to improve :D |
| 14:40.14 | sacarasc | I rarely use it... too busy hitting my 3 keys |
| 14:40.14 | TNSe | exactly |
| 14:40.20 | masterkiller | exactly you need research and know your class |
| 14:40.28 | TNSe | I've had all our rogues go through all the 'useful' specs for pve |
| 14:40.39 | TNSe | muti-combat/pure combat/hemo-combat |
| 14:40.40 | ExiztenceFL | we had Muti rogue back in Hyjal |
| 14:40.45 | ExiztenceFL | he played godlike |
| 14:40.47 | TNSe | muti-combat is good now actually |
| 14:40.49 | ExiztenceFL | even tho he was Muti |
| 14:40.54 | TNSe | after ashtongue talisman |
| 14:40.57 | Kalroth_ | combat > * |
| 14:41.01 | TNSe | and 15% bonus crit on muti |
| 14:41.06 | SunTsu | TNSe: I was in heroic arcatraz yesterday and either the tank or the heal shaman pulled abysses, either by tanking at the door or by putting a totem at the door |
| 14:41.10 | VonhintenHOME` | I was a tank in my guild for a long time... I would bring my rogue to Gruul runs because we were tank heavy... People started changing their habits when the realized the WWS logs showed my alt was #1 and they were all sucking... |
| 14:41.12 | ExiztenceFL | it was back ''prebuffs'' |
| 14:41.16 | masterkiller | i seriously think we are going to see more and more of the people willing to do their homework head elsewhere. sure more people will step up and take their place but its going to be a decline unless blizz finds a way to make the guild a vital part of the community again |
| 14:41.24 | TNSe | But the killer? |
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| 14:41.25 | VonhintenHOME` | now I'm on my rogue as a main, and people are trying hard to beat my DPS |
| 14:41.32 | TNSe | Currently I'm playing my priest as 41/20 discipline |
| 14:41.40 | ExiztenceFL | well imo |
| 14:41.43 | ExiztenceFL | best hunters |
| 14:41.45 | TNSe | any random person seeing me in a raid as that |
| 14:41.48 | ExiztenceFL | 1) Crusader Enchant ! |
| 14:41.50 | TNSe | would go like LOL U SUCK LOL L2PLay |
| 14:41.55 | ExiztenceFL | Oh god how many I seen :/ |
| 14:42.10 | TNSe | but fact is |
| 14:42.15 | TNSe | I'm beating resto shamans on a lot of fights |
| 14:42.17 | TNSe | as disc >_< |
| 14:42.25 | TNSe | renew > chain heal |
| 14:42.31 | masterkiller | so is that skill or gear? |
| 14:42.33 | ExiztenceFL | My friend borrowed me shaman in BT for Mother |
| 14:42.38 | sica | that only means your resto shamans suck |
| 14:42.39 | TNSe | not skill imo |
| 14:42.46 | masterkiller | your alt out gears them? |
| 14:42.46 | TNSe | no, renew is great at one thing |
| 14:42.51 | ExiztenceFL | it's so easy class I ended first on healin with flying colors |
| 14:43.00 | TNSe | my priest has 2t6+kara head and random epics |
| 14:43.04 | masterkiller | what sica said |
| 14:43.15 | TNSe | but the thing is, if you know people are gonna take damage |
| 14:43.20 | TNSe | say RoS p2/p3 and bloodboil |
| 14:43.26 | TNSe | put up renew on all |
| 14:43.27 | masterkiller | tnse, i think that shows the difference in player ability |
| 14:43.31 | TNSe | its the most insane heal in the game |
| 14:43.45 | TNSe | 15sec duration, great scaling |
| 14:43.48 | VonhintenHOME` | our CoH priests are putting out big numbers these days |
| 14:43.51 | ExiztenceFL | full stacked Lifebloom on 3 ppl on bloodboil is skill :D |
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| 14:44.03 | nevcairiel | ExiztenceFL: nah, 3 people is easy |
| 14:44.04 | TNSe | I was CoH but the problem with CoH is that it devalues resto shamans |
| 14:44.19 | TNSe | CoH hits shammies where they need to be best |
| 14:44.21 | TNSe | raid healing |
| 14:44.26 | nevcairiel | 4 with good latency is easy possible, 5 with some haste rating is win :D |
| 14:44.36 | mykx | how do you figure? resto shamans bring totems and lust/heroism to the picture |
| 14:44.39 | jy` | multitarget stacked lb > CoH |
| 14:44.44 | ExiztenceFL | the problem is that shamans also offer in many cases better survivality , totems , heroisms compared to ''only'' healing priests |
| 14:44.51 | TNSe | yup |
| 14:44.58 | TNSe | but we had 2 CoH priests |
| 14:45.02 | TNSe | we were ninjaing everything |
| 14:45.07 | TNSe | shamans were just not getting anything done |
| 14:45.13 | masterkiller | whoa nev steps in =P |
| 14:45.13 | nevcairiel | really depends on the fight |
| 14:45.14 | TNSe | so I went disc to pick up some utility :P |
| 14:45.21 | sica | we usually raid with 2 CoH priests and 3 resto shamans and it's great |
| 14:45.23 | jy` | CoH on casters |
| 14:45.32 | mykx | same here sica |
| 14:45.33 | TNSe | Pain Suppression is decent. Power infusion is half decent |
| 14:45.44 | ExiztenceFL | 3 Resto , 2 Enhancers , 2 disci :p |
| 14:45.46 | TNSe | but its not a spec I'm going into sunwell with |
| 14:45.52 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt want a disc priest in raids *shrug |
| 14:45.57 | ExiztenceFL | eh |
| 14:45.57 | masterkiller | Hey priests rock, but a T4 priest should not be outhealing raid shammies |
| 14:45.58 | ExiztenceFL | not disci |
| 14:46.00 | ExiztenceFL | sorry |
| 14:46.02 | mykx | for sunwell you will no doubt want to be CoH, there's a lot of raid damage going on |
| 14:46.03 | ExiztenceFL | I play arena too much :/ |
| 14:46.04 | TNSe | CoH is too important, but 0.5s mass dispell costing -15% is really nice. |
| 14:46.06 | ExiztenceFL | Holy or w/e |
| 14:46.06 | masterkiller | maybe 1800 +healing vs 2200 +healing? |
| 14:46.43 | sica | TNSe: a healing priest casting mass dispell? our shadows mass dispell all the time, not the healers |
| 14:46.50 | TNSe | I'm disc :P |
| 14:46.58 | TNSe | I have somewhat different priorities |
| 14:47.01 | ExiztenceFL | only on Felmyst |
| 14:47.03 | TNSe | since I can't CoH |
| 14:47.08 | mykx | yeah was gonna say felmyst |
| 14:47.21 | TNSe | but disc priests are atm NOT worth it |
| 14:47.22 | TNSe | at all |
| 14:47.25 | TNSe | its a waste of raid spot |
| 14:47.29 | ExiztenceFL | as that's only encounter you need what ? 4-5 priests ? forgot |
| 14:47.47 | mykx | well you don't need that many but it makes the fight a shit ton easier |
| 14:48.00 | nevcairiel | its really hard with less then 4 |
| 14:48.01 | ExiztenceFL | you just make camps and assign priest to each |
| 14:48.04 | ExiztenceFL | y |
| 14:48.26 | mykx | we used to have 3 raiding spriests and 2 coh priests so felmyst has always been np for us lol |
| 14:48.34 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:48.49 | nevcairiel | felmyst has alot of other issues for us |
| 14:48.52 | nevcairiel | dispelling works |
| 14:49.05 | mykx | people dying during encap? |
| 14:49.06 | ExiztenceFL | Twins are fun |
| 14:49.06 | nevcairiel | but that "wtf? encapsulate? here? *death*" |
| 14:49.09 | ExiztenceFL | M'uru is... |
| 14:49.11 | mykx | yeah |
| 14:49.12 | TNSe | hehe |
| 14:49.18 | TNSe | well, with expansion talents in mind |
| 14:49.21 | TNSe | disc is gonna rock |
| 14:49.30 | TNSe | so Ihad to try a 2-3 weeks as disc |
| 14:49.32 | ExiztenceFL | you never know what holy gets lower |
| 14:49.35 | mykx | if you notice she turns her entire body towards who she is going to encap, kinda gives you a second to run out and pop healthstone |
| 14:49.37 | TNSe | see how much healing power I'd lose |
| 14:49.51 | ExiztenceFL | yes it's very easy to spot |
| 14:49.54 | TNSe | the amount of healing I lost was less than I believed.... |
| 14:50.20 | ExiztenceFL | especially since you run before she casts , so it's funny to see when she casts only on melee but camp in the same ''line of her sight'' is already spreading |
| 14:50.22 | nevcairiel | mykx: of course its easy to survive, our people are just dumb and blind, judging from the looks of their UI, they dont even see the 3d world anymore =P |
| 14:50.45 | ExiztenceFL | 12x12 bars ?:D |
| 14:50.47 | mykx | hehe yeah my friend is like that |
| 14:51.01 | nevcairiel | i bet we have people that turn their camera to the ground because they have lik 5 fps then, instead of 1 |
| 14:51.02 | mykx | has black bars(eepanels ?) taking up 30% of the top and bottom of his screen |
| 14:51.11 | nevcairiel | oRA needs a fps check |
| 14:51.31 | ExiztenceFL | haha |
| 14:51.34 | ExiztenceFL | I so wouldn't pass |
| 14:51.38 | ExiztenceFL | runnin at 10 FPS mostly |
| 14:51.42 | mykx | FPS is really odd I can have 400 in some areas in exodar and then ... 4 while fighting felmyst |
| 14:51.44 | SunTsu | With my old machine I used to tank at 3fps ;) |
| 14:51.57 | ExiztenceFL | tbh you can manage with 5 :p |
| 14:51.59 | nevcairiel | there are some areas that are bad designed |
| 14:52.05 | nevcairiel | with alot of polygons going around |
| 14:52.11 | ExiztenceFL | as long as you keep going not ''UI lag'' |
| 14:52.20 | VonhintenHOME` | Blizzard needs to catagorize some of their partical effects properly... the spell effects slider doesn't get rid of things like the Abomination green glow in Hyjal, and it should |
| 14:52.36 | SunTsu | "You don't have to take the mob away from me, I am a tank, too" "I know, I just didn't see somebody already had it, so I growled" |
| 14:52.37 | ExiztenceFL | had one UI ''lagging'' me on some sick purpose when I got Conflag or at dancing on Felmyst... |
| 14:52.52 | mykx | My fps tends to drop a lot in combat though not sure if that's normal or if one of my addons is causing conflicts |
| 14:53.06 | ExiztenceFL | stopped using most of stuff I did |
| 14:53.17 | ExiztenceFL | clear screen , no bars , no damage meters |
| 14:53.18 | VonhintenHOME` | I turn my combat log off (filter to nothing) |
| 14:53.45 | mykx | well i'm running 15mb worth of addons but it does feel like a significant drop occurs during combat |
| 14:53.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Even with a new beefy system, a lot of AOE's going on at once, drops me a bit |
| 14:54.07 | VonhintenHOME` | and running combat log on Everything drags me down a lot |
| 14:54.28 | mykx | kinda silly that text(combat log) can give you performance issues |
| 14:54.49 | ExiztenceFL | 30.8MB atm |
| 14:54.58 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm over 50MB I think |
| 14:55.11 | ExiztenceFL | but I was using some UI with like 18 MB and I was having so bad FPS issues I just uninstalled it after 1st trash pack |
| 14:55.15 | mykx | I'm using like bt4, pitbull, bigwigs and thats really about it just a couple more class specific addons |
| 14:55.25 | ExiztenceFL | eePanels ;) |
| 14:55.41 | mykx | eePanels was causing performance issues for you ? |
| 14:55.46 | ExiztenceFL | no |
| 14:55.47 | ExiztenceFL | well |
| 14:55.50 | ExiztenceFL | no idea what was |
| 14:56.21 | VonhintenHOME` | My addons folder has 224 folders in it |
| 14:56.56 | VonhintenHOME` | probably 3/4 of them are libs extracted |
| 14:57.18 | VonhintenHOME` | maybe 1/2 |
| 14:57.45 | ExiztenceFL | well just for comparison |
| 14:58.11 | ExiztenceFL | http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll131/Exiztence/WoWScrnShot_061108_165629.jpg?t=1213196267 I am currently riading with this UI and I am having anything between 10-20 FPS |
| 14:58.40 | ExiztenceFL | it has double of memory useage compared to UI I tried last week which made the game unplayable in SWP |
| 14:58.51 | ExiztenceFL | dunno what's the reason :/ |
| 14:59.15 | mykx | well I guess because memory usage doesn't exactly indicate FPS hits |
| 15:00.04 | ExiztenceFL | not good with addons sadly :( |
| 15:00.35 | mykx | me either but I try to keep as up to date as a non author can ;p |
| 15:03.58 | clad|sleep | ... |
| 15:03.58 | clad|sleep | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibHelper-1.0/LibHelper-1.0.toc |
| 15:04.01 | clad|sleep | are you serious? |
| 15:04.10 | clad|sleep | why has no one nuked this from the svn yet? |
| 15:04.29 | SunTsu | cog|work: BTW. Do you know any reason MacroSequence might skip spells besides that they are misspelled? |
| 15:04.32 | cladhaire | ## Notes: Helper functions used by my addons |
| 15:04.37 | cladhaire | *boggle* |
| 15:05.02 | Vulcanus | maybe it does something useful though ;p |
| 15:05.21 | cladhaire | with that name |
| 15:05.23 | cladhaire | it shouldn't be allowed at all |
| 15:06.15 | Vulcanus | well if the addon(s) that use it are not guild-specific (or person-specific, though I can't say I know why anybody would want to host self-only addons on wowace) then beyond a nondescriptive name, what's wrong? |
| 15:06.25 | cladhaire | thats reason enough for me |
| 15:06.29 | cladhaire | an addon called "LibHelper" |
| 15:06.40 | cladhaire | Alar is ridiculous |
| 15:06.49 | cladhaire | but at least he has the decency to prefix his addons/libraries |
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| 15:07.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+v ZealotOnAStick] by ChanServ |
| 15:07.31 | cladhaire | its just a bizarre mishmash of code |
| 15:07.50 | nevcairiel | I thought about just nuking it, but somehow i didnt get anyone to back me up =P |
| 15:07.59 | cladhaire | well i support you |
| 15:08.02 | cladhaire | hell, just rename it |
| 15:08.05 | cladhaire | its stupid |
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| 15:08.31 | nevcairiel | wishes for a new and clean svn, with new-addon-moderation |
| 15:08.36 | cladhaire | ha! |
| 15:08.41 | cladhaire | keep dreaming sexy! |
| 15:08.52 | Vulcanus | I have a better idea: ask the author to rename it, and if he can/will not then do it by force. I just object to forcefully doing stuff out of the blue :p |
| 15:09.02 | Vulcanus | not that I have a say, just voicing an opinion :) |
| 15:09.05 | cladhaire | Vulcanus: how are we supposed to ask him? |
| 15:09.08 | nevcairiel | it wouldnt be out of the blue if that guy would come to irc |
| 15:09.22 | cladhaire | when there is no email accountability for authors |
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| 15:09.29 | Vulcanus | lookup the committer's email in the svn account db? |
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| 15:10.05 | cladhaire | yes, like i have access to that anymore |
| 15:10.17 | Josh_Borke | ~lart cladhaire |
| 15:10.17 | purl | hits cladhaire with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 15:10.24 | Vulcanus | then bug kaelten or whoever does :p |
| 15:10.34 | cladhaire | ... |
| 15:10.37 | cladhaire | let me spell that out for you too |
| 15:10.39 | cladhaire | dot dot dor |
| 15:10.44 | cladhaire | s/dor/dot/ |
| 15:10.50 | Josh_Borke | morning claddy waddy :-) |
| 15:11.10 | cladhaire | heh i forgot to change my nick |
| 15:11.12 | cladhaire | ugt to you too! |
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| 15:11.33 | Josh_Borke | i'll fix it for you |
| 15:11.40 | Josh_Borke | because i <3 you ;-P |
| 15:12.06 | Vulcanus | So what this appears to me is: you no longer being an administrator want to nuke something that you personally think is wrongly named. Wrong as I may be, that just makes me go lolwut |
| 15:12.20 | cladhaire | ... |
| 15:12.36 | Vulcanus | no wait lemme guess: "dot dot dot" =p |
| 15:12.37 | cladhaire | what does me not being an administrator have to do with anything? |
| 15:12.38 | [Ammo] | I'll go play big daddy evil |
| 15:12.45 | cladhaire | seriously? |
| 15:12.45 | cladhaire | wtf |
| 15:12.52 | Josh_Borke | [Ammo]: but, but, i was going to do it |
| 15:12.58 | Josh_Borke | [Ammo]: as your friend though, i'll let you do it :-D |
| 15:12.59 | cladhaire | I'm obviously not the only one who think its absurd |
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| 15:13.08 | [Ammo] | it's absurd |
| 15:13.12 | [Ammo] | and thanks for pointing it out |
| 15:13.15 | [Ammo] | I will rename his lib now :p |
| 15:13.31 | cladhaire | you're welcome! |
| 15:13.34 | cladhaire | you can PM me on wowinterface |
| 15:13.39 | cladhaire | thats the best place i found to contact him |
| 15:13.43 | cladhaire | on a cursory search |
| 15:13.48 | [Ammo] | I am not contacting him |
| 15:13.50 | [Ammo] | I am renaming his lib |
| 15:13.51 | [Ammo] | he can diaf |
| 15:13.53 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:14.00 | durcyn | LibStupid-1.0 ? |
| 15:14.02 | Josh_Borke | have you seen his other addons? |
| 15:14.13 | cladhaire | i'm looking now |
| 15:14.14 | Josh_Borke | Mount, PetAndMountDatabase, MiniPet |
| 15:14.20 | cladhaire | Why is this even an addon? |
| 15:14.21 | cladhaire | /userandom [flyable] flying mount 1,flying mount 2,flying mount 3,...; ground mount 1,ground mount 2,ground mount3,... |
| 15:14.23 | cladhaire | /dismount [mounted] |
| 15:14.25 | cladhaire | Look! I just wrote your addon as a two line macro. |
| 15:14.27 | cladhaire | Edit: oh jesus. 8 libs? |
| 15:14.30 | Josh_Borke | Stable, Tabard |
| 15:14.35 | Josh_Borke | DailyQuester |
| 15:15.13 | CIA-43 | 03ammo * r76470 10/trunk/ (LibHelper-1.0/ LibLordFarlander-1.0/): .Renamed LibHelper-1.0 from it's generic name LibHelper-1.0 to LibLordFarlander-1.0 since that's basically what it is. If you hate me now come join on #wowace on irc.freenode.net or leave the wowace svn. |
| 15:15.42 | Vulcanus | I lol'd irl XD |
| 15:15.43 | cladhaire | hah |
| 15:15.55 | Matrix110| | ::D |
| 15:15.59 | CIA-43 | 03ammo * r76471 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/ (LibHelper-1.0.toc LibLordFarlanderr-1.0.toc): LibLordFarlander-1.0: make sure his .toc loads |
| 15:16.06 | Matrix110| | <3 |
| 15:16.10 | Vulcanus | course with macros you have a limited number of characters, you can't fit many mounts names in there, doesn't the addon allow you to define an unlimited number of mounts? If not then I agree with the above macro lulz |
| 15:16.14 | nevcairiel | we should create a ammo fan club, and a ammo hate club |
| 15:16.15 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:16.23 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: now clean up PT3.1 |
| 15:16.27 | Josh_Borke | i'll be the sole member of ammo fan club! |
| 15:16.44 | Matrix110| | Vulcanus yes Macro is only 255 chars if you carry around 8 mounts orso it might get tricky |
| 15:16.51 | [Ammo] | yeah I should, but I was talking to pastamancer about that until he stopped responding |
| 15:17.07 | Josh_Borke | why would you have 8 mounts at one time in your bags? |
| 15:17.09 | Josh_Borke | that's so many |
| 15:17.13 | Vulcanus | 8? the GM in my guild has more than 8 FLYING mounts, let alone regular ones |
| 15:17.13 | Matrix110| | Well |
| 15:17.14 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 15:17.15 | Matrix110| | I got 4 |
| 15:17.16 | Matrix110| | :D |
| 15:17.29 | Josh_Borke | i can understand having that many |
| 15:17.39 | Josh_Borke | well, not really |
| 15:17.43 | Matrix110| | Palomino Bridle, Swift Tiger and 2xdifferent color worms |
| 15:17.48 | Josh_Borke | MiniPet: initial commit 3.0 <-- i love that message |
| 15:17.51 | masterkiller | I have 1 flying and 1 summoned =P |
| 15:18.10 | Matrix110| | And I have 8 Minipets with me |
| 15:18.10 | kagaro | I wish the halloween broomstick was perm, i would only use that one .. less crap on the screen |
| 15:18.11 | Vulcanus | hes got netherdrake, gryphon, rofflecopter, rocket, probs more I dont know of. Then he has spectral tiger, wintersaber, faction mounts... |
| 15:18.15 | Matrix110| | normally 12 but i needed bagspace |
| 15:18.21 | masterkiller | also, the guy may have been learning to code, poor naming conventions but may be a bright star one day! (who knows maybe he's 8!) ;) |
| 15:18.41 | Josh_Borke | masterkiller: no excuse. there is plenty of material to read about naming conventions |
| 15:19.01 | Josh_Borke | masterkiller: when i made my first addons i polluted the global namespace, but i at least prefixed everything with my addon name and made sure it wasn't generic |
| 15:19.15 | Vulcanus | give the guy cred for at least prefixing it with Lib |
| 15:19.30 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.40 | Vulcanus | I didnt say a lot of credit |
| 15:19.40 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 15:19.42 | CIA-43 | 03ammo * r76472 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/ (LibLordFarlander-1.0.toc LibLordFarlanderr-1.0.toc): LibLordFarlander-1.0: I suck at quick typing |
| 15:19.45 | [Ammo] | typo'd his toc filename ;p |
| 15:19.50 | masterkiller | josh_borke: oh i agree i was just trying to lessen the poor bastard's bad rep at this point =P |
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| 15:21.24 | Vulcanus | poor guy is gonna run the updater and find all his mods no longer work XD |
| 15:21.31 | masterkiller | hehe |
| 15:21.59 | Vulcanus | Im glad nobody is noticing the small mods Ive put up there :p |
| 15:22.05 | DARKGuy | rofl |
| 15:22.20 | [Ammo] | I don't really give a rats ass about that |
| 15:22.27 | [Ammo] | should pay more attention to the svn log though |
| 15:22.30 | DARKGuy | Vulcanus: you're famous, my C drive talks about you all the time |
| 15:22.33 | [Ammo] | so idiots like this get a slap on the wrist faster |
| 15:22.35 | Vulcanus | :O |
| 15:22.39 | Matrix110| | btw |
| 15:23.06 | Matrix110| | What happens if /userandom chooses a Item I dont have does it just choose one i have or does nothing atall then? |
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| 15:23.16 | Matrix110| | ok it does nothing |
| 15:23.17 | Matrix110| | :P |
| 15:23.29 | DARKGuy | It uses a rabbit instead |
| 15:23.36 | Vulcanus | woulda been funnier if the game crashed for datamining XD |
| 15:24.13 | Vulcanus | or well disconnected, same diff |
| 15:24.31 | cog|work | SunTsu: only if the spell can't be cast (for any reason whatsoever) |
| 15:24.48 | cog|work | it will always advance to the next step in the sequence when you run the macro regardless of what's in the macro itself |
| 15:25.07 | SunTsu | cog|work: Strange, because doing the same in a macro works great |
| 15:25.55 | cog|work | SunTsu: either you're missing something or i am... |
| 15:25.56 | cog|work | :P |
| 15:26.22 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76473 10PetAndMountDatabase/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:26.22 | CIA-43 | PetAndMountDatabase-1.0: |
| 15:26.22 | CIA-43 | - Added Translocate spells to Spells.Teleport |
| 15:26.22 | CIA-43 | - Reorganized TOC for WowAce Wiki |
| 15:26.22 | CIA-43 | - New functions for getting set information |
| 15:26.32 | cog|work | castsequence is designed specifically to stop at a step if a spell doesn't cast and only proceed once it's successful |
| 15:26.40 | cog|work | macrosequence isn't |
| 15:26.43 | cog|work | (and can't) |
| 15:26.48 | Vulcanus | oh dear |
| 15:26.49 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 15:27.17 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: any bets on when he notices, seeing he is currently active? =P |
| 15:27.36 | Vulcanus | Ill wager till next time random guildie of his runs WAU |
| 15:27.49 | cog|work | or i don't understand what exactly your asking and i'm just confusing you more :P |
| 15:28.32 | SunTsu | cog|work: One moment, just pastey'ing ;) |
| 15:28.35 | cog|work | SunTsu: can you pastey the sequence that isn't working as you expect? |
| 15:28.39 | cog|work | heh |
| 15:28.54 | dylanm | [Ammo]: Haha you renamed his lib. |
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| 15:29.15 | nevcairiel | how do you get purl to do welcome msgs o.O |
| 15:29.32 | Vulcanus | hes gonna be so pissed if his guildie doesn't run disembedded either, as he'll have no idea what happened XD |
| 15:29.48 | nevcairiel | it'll break in either case |
| 15:29.55 | nevcairiel | files script will stop .zipping his adodns |
| 15:29.59 | Vulcanus | oh |
| 15:30.00 | nevcairiel | because of wrong externals |
| 15:30.00 | SunTsu | cog|work: http://wowace.pastey.net/89439 - It normally skips everything after Lebensentzug and continues with Blutsauger |
| 15:30.11 | Vulcanus | ye [Ammo] go fix svn:externals :p |
| 15:30.16 | Vulcanus | on all his mods |
| 15:30.17 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 15:30.25 | nevcairiel | and where would the fun in that be? |
| 15:30.34 | cog|work | SunTsu: when you say skip, do you mean it goes back to the beginning immediately or pressing the button at the given step has no effect? |
| 15:30.41 | Vulcanus | not changing his toc and making the mods break of course |
| 15:31.18 | Vulcanus | if theres no new .zip then other people using WAU won't get them downloaded will they, unless I misunderstood here |
| 15:31.55 | SunTsu | cog|work: No, it does Lebensentzug, then skips the next curses and continues at Blutsauger. Just like those four lines inbetween wouldn't exist |
| 15:32.13 | nevcairiel | SunTsu: spamming the button during gcd maybe? ;) |
| 15:32.14 | cog|work | also, the [modifier:shift] in the second step won't work at all because you told it to reset on shift-click |
| 15:32.55 | cog|work | SunTsu: each click advances the sequence |
| 15:33.11 | nevcairiel | it needs some getting used to |
| 15:33.19 | nevcairiel | but its awesoem once you did |
| 15:33.23 | nevcairiel | wtb GUI btw |
| 15:33.45 | cog|work | if you can't cast the current spell for any reason (cooldown, range, etc.) running the macro will have no effect and then move on to the next step |
| 15:33.47 | SunTsu | cog|work: Yeah, I know, didn't think that over too much, just wanted to see if it basically works the way I want it |
| 15:34.18 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: One press of the button during global cd skipping four spells? |
| 15:34.29 | cog|work | it wouldn't skip four spells |
| 15:34.31 | nevcairiel | SunTsu: no, but four clicks :) |
| 15:34.52 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Nope, definitively not ;) |
| 15:35.06 | nevcairiel | or one very hard click, maybe |
| 15:35.06 | cog|work | each press moves to the next step period |
| 15:35.07 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:35.12 | SunTsu | But I'll try watching gcd tonight ;) |
| 15:35.30 | nevcairiel | yeah thats where i learned to love my gcd bar |
| 15:35.31 | cog|work | it's all handled automatically by the state headers which pay absolutely no attention to what the spell is |
| 15:35.51 | cog|work | nothing inside the macros will have any effect on the way the sequence advances |
| 15:36.00 | cog|work | only the reset conditions can alter the behavior |
| 15:36.22 | Pkekyo| | thul: ping? |
| 15:36.28 | DARKGuy | man, I want a change of GUI :( |
| 15:36.30 | SunTsu | cog|work: So, besides reset via shift you don't see any obvious reasons? |
| 15:36.32 | DARKGuy | show cool stuff guys D: |
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| 15:36.53 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.28 | cog|work | user error imo ;) |
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| 15:38.04 | cog|work | unless there's some horrible bug in the state headers introduced last patch :P |
| 15:38.42 | SunTsu | cog|work: Thanks anyways, I'll try pressing slower and watching gcd ;) |
| 15:38.48 | cog|work | :) |
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| 16:01.24 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76474 10PetAndMountDatabase/PetAndMountDatabase-1.0/PetAndMountDatabase.lua: |
| 16:01.24 | CIA-43 | PetAndMountDatabase-1.0: |
| 16:01.24 | CIA-43 | - Opps that > was really supposed to be a > :p |
| 16:01.47 | [Ammo] | so > ~= > |
| 16:01.56 | nevcairiel | obviously |
| 16:02.06 | nevcairiel | wonder when he notices that his addon doesnt get .zip'ed anymore |
| 16:02.14 | [Ammo] | we'll see |
| 16:02.24 | Industrial | stoned als een aap |
| 16:02.25 | Industrial | wewt |
| 16:02.40 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Was wondering the same thing when I saw his name. Thought "never" when I saw that commit message |
| 16:02.44 | Industrial | Amirite Ellipsis |
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| 16:04.08 | nevcairiel | we should really clean up the svn |
| 16:04.17 | nevcairiel | remove all addons that still need parser |
| 16:04.28 | Vulcanus | nev's way of cleaning: crtl+a -> delete |
| 16:04.29 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 16:04.53 | Ackis | that would work |
| 16:05.09 | Ackis | give two weeks notification that if your add-on still works and you want it on the svn recommit |
| 16:05.21 | [Ammo] | 2 week what? |
| 16:05.30 | dylanm | We take out billboards. |
| 16:05.34 | nevcairiel | those addons dont even get .zip'ed anymore or show up in WAU |
| 16:05.39 | [Ammo] | I say only me nevc vhaarr get to decide what addon stays or not |
| 16:05.41 | nevcairiel | so screw them |
| 16:05.44 | [Ammo] | all accounts suspended |
| 16:05.50 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:05.54 | [Ammo] | and now you reapply by showing you can actually fucking code |
| 16:05.59 | [Ammo] | instead of copy paste an addon together |
| 16:06.08 | Vulcanus | hey I like my copypasted mods tyvm |
| 16:06.09 | nevcairiel | man the old days |
| 16:06.12 | Ackis | but you learn to code by copypasting |
| 16:06.24 | nevcairiel | Ackis: then come back after learning finished =P |
| 16:06.30 | Vulcanus | mean old ammo :( |
| 16:06.36 | Ackis | but if I'm gone who will you mock? |
| 16:08.40 | Ackis | see you're at a loss for words |
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| 16:08.44 | Vulcanus | I have to say, this elitist sounding attitude makes me wonder if you think writing mods is about flaunting e-penises (or e-tits as the case may be) rather than focusing on improving WoW. |
| 16:08.59 | dylanm | Uh |
| 16:09.12 | Ackis | girls can have e-penises |
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| 16:10.06 | DARKGuy | ... |
| 16:10.08 | DARKGuy | lmfao Ackis |
| 16:10.19 | Vulcanus | "you're not leet enough for WoWAce!" |
| 16:10.29 | CIA-43 | 03zhucc * r76475 10IHML/locales/locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 16:10.29 | CIA-43 | IHML: |
| 16:10.29 | CIA-43 | - zhTW update(thank s8095324) |
| 16:10.50 | dylanm | "You're not a competent coder." |
| 16:10.59 | DARKGuy | Vulcanus: how can some improve wow, if Blizz keeps locking out API? :P |
| 16:11.06 | dylanm | I think that's a valid reason for denial. |
| 16:12.12 | Vulcanus | how were the LazyScript addons IMPROVING the game tho XD |
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| 16:18.45 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 16:19.37 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76476 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated Blacklist |
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| 16:21.35 | Elkano | wow... we managed to get Magtheridon enraged :/ |
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| 16:24.19 | sacarasc | wow |
| 16:24.49 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
| 16:24.49 | purl | 2008.06.11 16:24:49 GMT |
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| 16:34.09 | Chompers | Apoco: <RBM> AbilityWatch Error: Invalid spellID: 19751 |
| 16:34.32 | Chompers | looking at mage/paladin or priest spells |
| 16:34.55 | Ackis | anyone suggest a good sound card aside from soundblaster shit? |
| 16:35.14 | Apoco | yeah its on paladins |
| 16:35.18 | Chompers | Apoco: deffo paladins |
| 16:35.19 | Chompers | snap |
| 16:35.24 | Apoco | Its there on purpose |
| 16:35.50 | Ackis | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/sec |
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| 16:36.06 | Apoco | I'll remove it next build but I wanted some people to see what it would do if its not a valid spellID. Atleast that way it doesn't give errors. |
| 16:36.12 | Chompers | no worries |
| 16:36.16 | Chompers | just wanted to help you out |
| 16:36.19 | Apoco | thx :) |
| 16:36.21 | mjc_ | moo |
| 16:36.55 | Ellipsis | chomps on Chompers |
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| 16:37.04 | mjc_ | ...s Ellipsis |
| 16:37.17 | Ackis | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/sec :P |
| 16:38.00 | Dave2 | .win 7 |
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| 16:38.22 | sacarasc | :o Dave2, stalker |
| 16:38.32 | Dave2 | Leis. |
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| 16:40.04 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76477 10PetAndMountDatabase/PetAndMountDatabase-1.0/PetAndMountDatabase.lua: |
| 16:40.04 | CIA-43 | PetAndMountDatabase-1.0: |
| 16:40.04 | CIA-43 | - Fixed dividers on several shortcut sets |
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| 16:42.04 | nevcairiel | no, he doesnt notice |
| 16:42.22 | Ackis | that database doesn't get zipped? |
| 16:42.42 | Ackis | and is there a good general tech support channel that people know about? having issues with sound today |
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| 16:43.54 | Lukian | Ackis, if this were efnet I'd suggest #windows2000 :p |
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| 16:50.25 | cubicool | Warlocks are just mages that turned down the suck and turned up the awesome. |
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| 16:50.58 | Ellipsis | truth. |
| 16:51.17 | cubicool | truth, but it's a shame. |
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| 16:51.36 | cubicool | I play a Warlock, and I really despise it. SB spam being pretty much > * is way, way, way broken. |
| 16:52.04 | mjc_ | I preferred being OP in pvp to SB spam |
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| 16:52.21 | Ellipsis | you could do what I do and hang out at lower gear levels so you can stay aff :P |
| 16:52.28 | cubicool | And there's that. But, I play a Feral Dr00d for PVP, because I don't roll easymode. :) |
| 16:52.47 | cubicool | Ellipsis: How much DPS can you do as afflic in say, low T5? |
| 16:52.49 | Noeve | Morning. I'm having some problems with Bartender3. I disabled the addon on an alt, and now I can't get it back up on my main. I get "Not loadable on demand" and even with a reinstall, I can't get it running again. |
| 16:53.38 | Ellipsis | cubicool: I'm generally just over 1k dps with my gear which is probably slightly below T5 |
| 16:53.38 | Lukian | Noeve, update to bartender4 and say begone? :D |
| 16:53.48 | cubicool | Ellipsis: I'm about the same as SB spam, but I don't have 202 hit or whatever. |
| 16:54.07 | Noeve | Lukian, I suppose - I just spent hours configuring :P |
| 16:54.41 | mjc_ | Man uses stolen credit card at store, fills out job application after purchase. "I'm not saying he was smart" said the police captain |
| 16:54.42 | mjc_ | heh |
| 16:54.56 | Noeve | Lukian, is it still beta ? |
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| 16:55.07 | mjc_ | Noeve: it should carry over hopefully and there shouldn't be hours worth of configuring in bar4 :P |
| 16:55.25 | Ellipsis | cubicool: you don't have 202 hit? but...why? |
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| 16:55.36 | Lukian | Noeve, all addons are beta :p |
| 16:55.37 | mjc_ | hey funkeh :P |
| 16:55.47 | Noeve | Bartender4 - updated less than one minute ago. Awesome. |
| 16:55.47 | Lukian | mjc_, it doesn't copy config |
| 16:56.08 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 16:56.11 | Noeve | Is there much in the way of new development from BT3 to BT4 ? |
| 16:56.32 | Lukian | ace2 -> ace3 isn't big enough? |
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| 16:57.38 | cubicool | Ellipsis: I don't have access to that kind of gear at the moment. I can't get into any serious raiding guilds, because it's too late in the game. I get badges as often as I can, but it's really not enough. I gem for it in PVP gear, even. |
| 16:57.50 | SunTsu | mjc_: There is no config conversion bt3 -> bt4 |
| 16:58.00 | Noeve | I'm not "addicted" to Ace addons - I've made the switch to Fu and a few other Ace addons to try to be an "All Ace" person, but Fu disappointed me, and AceUpdater fucked up my entire addon base, so I switched back :P As a result, I don't really know the difference between Ace2 and Ace3, I haven't looked. |
| 16:59.38 | cubicool | What if SC2 allows UI modding. |
| 16:59.43 | cubicool | Man, that would be the ultimate shit. |
| 16:59.52 | nevcairiel | i bet it will |
| 17:00.10 | sdouble | I dont' see how any game wouldn't from ow on. |
| 17:00.16 | cubicool | I can't even begin to convey how obsessed I am w/ the Zerg. |
| 17:00.19 | sdouble | Well, any game that has as many options of course. |
| 17:00.45 | cubicool | And how much I hate Protoss. |
| 17:00.47 | digmouse | lua addons for SC2? |
| 17:00.57 | nevcairiel | sure, why not? |
| 17:01.04 | sdouble | python please |
| 17:01.18 | cubicool | sdouble: too wishful :) |
| 17:01.20 | mjc_ | sdouble: lua's fast. :P |
| 17:01.29 | cubicool | I do Python for a living. :) |
| 17:01.37 | nevcairiel | lua is fast, easy to implement, and blizz has experience using it |
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| 17:01.41 | cladhaire | python isn't well suited to embedding |
| 17:01.46 | nevcairiel | and of course, easy to learn and use |
| 17:01.46 | cladhaire | ask anyone who's tried :P |
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| 17:01.49 | Lukian | Noeve, ace3 is what ace2 was meant to be (but ace2 grew into a monster) :p |
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| 17:01.54 | cubicool | Python is horrible for embedding because it can' tbe sandboxed. |
| 17:01.55 | sdouble | it did well with civilization |
| 17:01.58 | cladhaire | i definitely use python when i need the kitchen sink |
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| 17:02.05 | cladhaire | sdouble: the end product worked. |
| 17:02.09 | cladhaire | sdouble: that doesn't mean it was easy to do :P |
| 17:02.10 | Noeve | Lukian, thanks for the code-accurate descriptive :P |
| 17:02.12 | cubicool | You can't prevent, for example, importing in Python. |
| 17:02.16 | Lukian | Noeve, also, fubar isn't an ace addon, it's on the rock framework :p |
| 17:02.39 | nevcairiel | FuBar2 is Ace |
| 17:02.40 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 17:02.48 | cubicool | (not without hackin the source, like the stackless guys do in Eve) |
| 17:02.58 | Noeve | Lukian, I switched to FuBar2 for its Ace addon plugins. |
| 17:03.03 | Noeve | And fucking hated it. Ugly fucker. |
| 17:03.14 | cladhaire | So angry! |
| 17:03.17 | cladhaire | damn that rap music! |
| 17:03.19 | Noeve | Once I was able to fix Itemized Deductions on Titan, I was back there in a flash :P |
| 17:03.20 | Lukian | nevcairiel, my housemate needs a fubar plugin for bartender4 :) |
| 17:03.21 | mjc_ | lol clad |
| 17:03.23 | Lukian | when you can ^_^ |
| 17:03.23 | Noeve | cladhaire, :P |
| 17:03.27 | cladhaire | goes to the library |
| 17:03.29 | Noeve | cladhaire, luckily, no. |
| 17:03.35 | cubicool | What's a library? |
| 17:03.40 | sdouble | yeah, everyone goes back to titan for the same reason "It's prettier" |
| 17:03.56 | nevcairiel | i use the panel with full transparency |
| 17:03.57 | dylanm | FuBar plugin for an action bar addon... of course. |
| 17:04.01 | sdouble | that and "it comes with everything they need" |
| 17:04.02 | nevcairiel | what do i care how it looks |
| 17:04.16 | nevcairiel | plus, what do i care what other people use =PÜ |
| 17:04.22 | Lukian | her words were "menu config is much easier" |
| 17:04.31 | sdouble | I prefer fubar myself |
| 17:04.38 | dylanm | That's totally information I want to see all the time. |
| 17:04.42 | nevcairiel | her? pictures make work go faster |
| 17:04.47 | nevcairiel | no, not really, but i can try |
| 17:04.47 | thul | any good book tips? I just read stardust by gaiman, and I'm thinking about getting neverwhere.. I like dan simmons too.. and richard morgan.. and peter hamilton :-P and.. quite a few others.. suggestions? |
| 17:04.58 | nevcairiel | thul: |
| 17:05.01 | nevcairiel | ~wowprogramming |
| 17:05.02 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 17:05.07 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:05.12 | sdouble | spam |
| 17:05.18 | cubicool | WOW Programming is the bomb, folks. |
| 17:05.22 | thul | nevcairiel: right, I'm genetically speaking a NON programmer |
| 17:05.36 | cladhaire | thul: I like the "Incarnations of Immortality" by Piers Anthony (although I hate Xanth series) |
| 17:05.46 | cladhaire | I've read the entire terry brooks universe |
| 17:05.51 | cladhaire | but Feist is amazing |
| 17:06.01 | cladhaire | starting with Magician and working though the series |
| 17:06.01 | thul | hmm, how is it? |
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| 17:06.04 | Lukian | feist is awesome :D |
| 17:06.12 | cladhaire | I happen to like brook's universe |
| 17:06.14 | cubicool | cladhaire: Feisit? |
| 17:06.17 | cubicool | er, feist |
| 17:06.20 | cladhaire | cubicool: Raymond Feist |
| 17:06.25 | cladhaire | ~wiki Raymond Feist |
| 17:06.25 | Lukian | raymond e. |
| 17:06.26 | cubicool | I thought you mean the singer. :) |
| 17:06.30 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 17:06.41 | cladhaire | booo for infobox =( |
| 17:08.35 | thul | I really liked stardust, light but still heavy |
| 17:08.43 | cubicool | Cory Doctorow is good, too. |
| 17:08.46 | clad|away | yeah Gaiman is really good |
| 17:08.53 | clad|away | thul: have you read "Good Omens"? |
| 17:08.54 | mjc_ | cory doctorow rocks :) |
| 17:09.12 | clad|away | Taking Gaiman's gift of plot with Pratchett's humor makes it pretty amazing |
| 17:09.14 | thul | cubicool: I'm just sceptical to his economic theories:P but that goes for richard morgan too, and I love his books. |
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| 17:09.24 | thul | clad|away: I have not, maybe I should get that too |
| 17:09.27 | cubicool | You know Docotorow is writing a book about WOW, right? |
| 17:09.36 | clad|away | thul: indeed, read Good Omens |
| 17:09.37 | thul | he is? about the game or in the universe? |
| 17:09.38 | clad|away | you'll enjoy it |
| 17:09.50 | clad|away | goes to pick up Elves of Cintra |
| 17:09.54 | cubicool | It's about online games in general, w/ emphasis emulating WOW. |
| 17:09.55 | thul | clad|away: ah, ok:) will do! I love douglas adams and adams, but I have not yet read anything of pratchett. |
| 17:10.04 | clad|away | I can't stomach much of pratchett |
| 17:10.07 | clad|away | he's HILARIOUS |
| 17:10.12 | clad|away | but they're just not my perferred type of books |
| 17:10.16 | cubicool | It's about gold farming, addiction, etc. All that good stuff. |
| 17:10.18 | clad|away | good stories, just not my deal |
| 17:10.53 | cubicool | Now I want to listen to Feist (the singer). |
| 17:11.06 | dylanm | I love you Leslie Feist. |
| 17:11.15 | dylanm | Even if your jaw is pretty pronounced. |
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| 17:11.17 | dylanm | It's cool. |
| 17:11.42 | cubicool | I think she used to be Peaches' roommate. |
| 17:12.26 | Ackis | ahh purls on-join comment has gone away |
| 17:13.12 | dylanm | cubicool: Yeah that's a pretty scary thought. |
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| 17:16.11 | cubicool | If anyone hasn't heard "Stack-O-Lee" from Black Snake Moan I will upload it now and break the law because it's so awesome. |
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| 17:46.22 | NivFreak | S3 starts in 2 weeks eh |
| 17:46.24 | NivFreak | er |
| 17:46.25 | NivFreak | S4 |
| 17:46.39 | NivFreak | prepare to be raped by weapons that we don't even have on my server out of PVE! |
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| 17:48.19 | cubicool | blizzard needs a "Lesson Learned" committee |
| 17:48.56 | NeoTron | I find it amusing that I'm looking at a couple of warlocks dps on brutallus and thinking they are so dang low |
| 17:49.08 | NeoTron | when one of them did 2354 DPS |
| 17:49.34 | NeoTron | I did 2331 but did 1k more dmg.. main difference is he used CoD, I did not |
| 17:49.50 | NivFreak | CoA? |
| 17:49.56 | NeoTron | I used CoE |
| 17:49.58 | NivFreak | oh |
| 17:50.02 | NivFreak | I see what you're saying |
| 17:50.09 | NeoTron | basically I did 62k more dmg than he did, excludign CoD |
| 17:50.10 | cubicool | NeoTron: SB spam? |
| 17:50.13 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 17:50.34 | cubicool | My DPS rotation is: pew pew, pew pew pew, pew, pew pew |
| 17:50.46 | NeoTron | he has 37% crit, I had 33% |
| 17:50.55 | mjc_ | lol cubicool |
| 17:51.19 | CIA-43 | 03dodge * r76478 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/Cooldown_Manager.lua: CoolDownButtons: fixed do => then :/ |
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| 17:53.03 | Cheads | NeoTron very well done, you are a super hero, grab a coca cola =) |
| 17:53.31 | cubicool | NeoTron: can you link me to your profile? I'm lucky to do 1200 DPS :) |
| 17:53.37 | NeoTron | Cheads: it's frustrating because two of the locks have the gear an the group and just don't put out the hurt |
| 17:53.42 | CIA-43 | 03ulic * r76479 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/ (Hellmaw.lua Ikiss.lua): |
| 17:53.42 | CIA-43 | LittleWigs: |
| 17:53.42 | CIA-43 | - Auch/Hellmaw: added missing messages |
| 17:53.42 | CIA-43 | - Auch/Ikiss: added polymorph bar & announcement |
| 17:53.42 | CIA-43 | - Thanks Ompalumpa |
| 17:53.57 | NeoTron | ironically the affliction warlock did 1920 DPS approximately |
| 17:54.06 | NeoTron | if you take his 3% extra shadow dmg into account |
| 17:54.15 | Cheads | well.. I have no idea about that. We are struggling with Al'ar =) |
| 17:54.36 | NeoTron | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai |
| 17:54.48 | NeoTron | note that is my felmyst trinkets |
| 17:54.49 | Cheads | no problem doing most damage there as affliction lock though |
| 17:55.04 | NeoTron | normally use darkmoon card and icon (/cry) |
| 17:55.18 | NeoTron | alar is a pretty good destro lock fight actually |
| 17:55.24 | NeoTron | one of the best in t5 |
| 17:55.27 | NeoTron | Lurker is another |
| 17:56.06 | Cheads | we have 3 locks, and I'm the affliction, the two others are destro |
| 17:56.32 | Cheads | but since we are just on al'ar, you can probably guess we are not very hardcore =9 |
| 17:57.03 | NivFreak | NeoTron: we put our ranged on Adds in phase 2 for al'ar |
| 17:57.10 | NivFreak | they qq so much |
| 17:57.37 | elite3vil | NivFreak: Isn't that how you're supposed to do it? lol. |
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| 17:57.46 | NeoTron | we used melee for it, with some ranged support |
| 17:58.00 | NeoTron | ranged on A'lar |
| 17:58.09 | Cheads | yesterday we didn't have one single melee dps |
| 17:58.17 | NivFreak | lol |
| 17:58.25 | Cheads | today we have 1 |
| 17:58.34 | NivFreak | I love my melee group |
| 17:58.34 | elite3vil | We've always had ranged do it, and had melee on Al'ar |
| 17:58.38 | NivFreak | they pump out some hot dmg |
| 17:58.50 | NivFreak | elite3vil: so have we, but a lot of people seem to go the other way |
| 17:58.56 | NivFreak | we put melee on adds in phase 1 |
| 17:59.02 | NivFreak | then swap for phase 2 |
| 17:59.12 | NivFreak | well, we leave one ranged on them in phase 1 |
| 17:59.18 | NivFreak | so that melee can stun and run out |
| 17:59.18 | Cheads | all dps were locks mages hunters and 2 spriests |
| 17:59.22 | NivFreak | and the ranged finishes up the add |
| 17:59.37 | elite3vil | We only have the rogues in p1 on adds, and then ranged in p2 |
| 18:00.14 | elite3vil | I don't think we ever brought any melee dps other than rogues tbh. lol |
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| 18:00.45 | elite3vil | It's been a while though, we haven't done SSC or TK since BT came out |
| 18:01.23 | Cheads | after ~30 wipes on al'ar.. I hope the tanks will finally be able to jump down in phase 1... still the biggest problem |
| 18:01.34 | NivFreak | ... |
| 18:01.39 | NivFreak | replace your tanks now |
| 18:01.41 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 18:01.43 | elite3vil | Yeah. |
| 18:01.48 | NivFreak | <-- tank |
| 18:01.49 | Cheads | heh.. dont have any |
| 18:01.51 | NivFreak | that's so fucking easy |
| 18:02.02 | elite3vil | If they can't jump down out of that quill thing... they're goign to have a hell of a time on Kalecgos |
| 18:02.05 | elite3vil | =P |
| 18:02.06 | NivFreak | you can do al'ar with 3 tanks |
| 18:02.15 | cubicool | NeoTron: Robes of Rhonin are so badass |
| 18:02.19 | elite3vil | That's the way we've always done it =) |
| 18:02.34 | NeoTron | cubicool: nto quite as good as Vashj's robes |
| 18:02.34 | Cheads | NivFreak probably.. but we are still learning the encounter |
| 18:02.34 | NeoTron | ironic eh? |
| 18:02.59 | NivFreak | 4-5 is much simpler if they don't fail to quil |
| 18:02.59 | NivFreak | Cheads: it tooks us 5 pulls to kill him |
| 18:02.59 | NivFreak | took |
| 18:02.59 | Cheads | ok |
| 18:02.59 | NeoTron | there are finally ones better than vashj's in SWP though |
| 18:02.59 | Cheads | good for you =) |
| 18:02.59 | NivFreak | we raid 2 days a week, and started in feb |
| 18:02.59 | NivFreak | :P |
| 18:02.59 | NeoTron | but we have yet to get them to drop |
| 18:03.06 | NeoTron | My leggings though, aer fricking hot |
| 18:03.12 | NivFreak | seriously, if your tanks can't drop |
| 18:03.13 | NivFreak | they fail |
| 18:03.15 | NivFreak | utterly |
| 18:03.18 | Cheads | 4th night starting now |
| 18:03.33 | NivFreak | let me explain phase 1 to you as a tank |
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| 18:03.41 | NivFreak | you stand on your platform |
| 18:03.41 | NeoTron | I can see failing on A'lar. I can't see failing because they fail to jump down |
| 18:03.50 | NivFreak | in heal range |
| 18:03.50 | NivFreak | you afk for 2-3 mins |
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| 18:03.54 | NeoTron | I can see failing to get back up in time (it's a bit tricky) but alas |
| 18:03.54 | NivFreak | you turn around and face al'ar as he comes to your platform |
| 18:03.56 | NivFreak | you stand there |
| 18:03.58 | NivFreak | he flys up |
| 18:04.02 | NivFreak | you jump down and run back |
| 18:04.03 | elite3vil | If they're not next up, they need to be just chilling on the edge waiting for it. |
| 18:04.04 | NivFreak | the end |
| 18:04.08 | NivFreak | it's so fucking boring |
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| 18:04.13 | NivFreak | tell them to stop watching TV while they wait |
| 18:04.19 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I use speed pots |
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| 18:04.31 | NivFreak | I actually have to stop |
| 18:04.34 | NivFreak | and wait for the quil to stop |
| 18:04.39 | NivFreak | then move up |
| 18:05.06 | Cheads | well since we are just on al'ar by now.. apparently we dont have your leet skills =) |
| 18:05.07 | elite3vil | Niv: class are you? |
| 18:05.10 | NivFreak | warrior |
| 18:05.22 | NivFreak | Cheads: it's not leet skill, it's really easy |
| 18:05.30 | NivFreak | I'm not being cocky, just telling you your tanks are failing badly |
| 18:05.44 | NivFreak | the hard part of that fight is phase 2 |
| 18:05.46 | NivFreak | not phase 1 |
| 18:05.52 | NivFreak | phase 1 is a snooze |
| 18:05.53 | NeoTron | 40 attemps of tanks failing to jump off the ledge is pretty bad actually |
| 18:06.11 | NeoTron | just objectively speaking |
| 18:06.21 | elite3vil | Neo: Kinda reminds me of 60 attempts of p2 Illidan before our tanks figured out the stupid eye beams |
| 18:06.23 | NivFreak | now, if you were having flame patch issues in phase 2 |
| 18:06.26 | NivFreak | I'd understand that |
| 18:06.31 | Cheads | only 30 =) |
| 18:06.31 | NivFreak | lots of random people can fail there |
| 18:06.38 | Cheads | but we've been to phase 2 like 5 times... |
| 18:06.39 | NeoTron | elite3vil: don't remind me. omg that is so much fail right there in phase2 illidan |
| 18:06.41 | elite3vil | Niv:: lol.. I think we'd still wipe to those flame patches if we went back now. |
| 18:06.50 | NivFreak | no more spell reflect kills |
| 18:06.53 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 18:06.55 | NeoTron | elite3vil: especially when we had to educate new tanks and one of the new tanks is an absolute retard |
| 18:06.56 | NivFreak | but come on |
| 18:07.05 | NivFreak | everything in t6 is don't stand in shit |
| 18:07.13 | NeoTron | elite3vil: he cannot to this day figure out wtf to do - it's more of a random crapshot if we make it or not |
| 18:07.30 | NivFreak | al'ar is just, don't stand in shit, do platform crap, and a taunt rotation |
| 18:07.30 | NeoTron | flame patch is tricky because it's really hard to see |
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| 18:07.38 | elite3vil | Neo: One of our tanks dc'd one night, and someone else that hadn't tanked since SSC logged into his account, and did it flawlessly, the first try. |
| 18:07.40 | NivFreak | NeoTron: SCT is your friend? |
| 18:07.41 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76480 10LibLordFarlander-1.0/LibHelper-1.0/LibHelper-1.0.lua: |
| 18:07.41 | CIA-43 | LibLordFarlander-1.0: |
| 18:07.41 | CIA-43 | - LibHelper-1.0 is now documented |
| 18:08.02 | NeoTron | basically the trick I told my peons is to be in first person for phase 1 (much easier to see since otherwise when you look up your character will obstruct your view more than normal) |
| 18:08.09 | NivFreak | I've fallen off the al'ar platform once |
| 18:08.11 | NeoTron | and in phase 2 zoom all the way out or you'll miss the patches |
| 18:08.30 | NeoTron | elite3vil: have to admit though, it's random luck too |
| 18:08.43 | NeoTron | elite3vil: some attempts beams are great, others they are hellishly evil |
| 18:08.44 | NivFreak | falling off == wipe |
| 18:08.46 | NivFreak | it's fun to be a tank |
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| 18:09.03 | NeoTron | NivFreak: tanking Eredar twins is the most stressful thing I've done |
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| 18:09.14 | NeoTron | first fight I'm completely unable to pay attention to anything else |
| 18:09.18 | NivFreak | We've got a while before we see them |
| 18:09.24 | NivFreak | we're just starting to farm t6 |
| 18:09.31 | NeoTron | that's from a warlock PoV |
| 18:09.35 | NivFreak | so it'll be a while before we have to gear to kill brutalus |
| 18:09.43 | NeoTron | yeah |
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| 18:09.55 | NivFreak | seems like kalcgos is doable though |
| 18:09.56 | elite3vil | Neo: I've never had to tank during Illidan, normally I'm swinging my Cat's edge around waiting for someone to fuck something up. >.> |
| 18:09.57 | NivFreak | once we drop illidan |
| 18:10.16 | elite3vil | I hate Kalecgos. |
| 18:10.19 | NeoTron | Kalecgos is harder than it seems |
| 18:10.26 | elite3vil | Probably my least favorite fight. |
| 18:10.26 | NeoTron | we two shotted him this week |
| 18:10.27 | NivFreak | hard sure |
| 18:10.30 | NivFreak | but not a gear barrier right? |
| 18:10.44 | elite3vil | Eh, it kinda is. |
| 18:10.48 | NeoTron | hits like a truck, massive healing and a non-insignificant amount of dps needed in the end |
| 18:10.58 | elite3vil | We had issues with healing the first week. |
| 18:11.02 | NeoTron | it's basically not as hardcore as brutallus but a gearcheck for each role |
| 18:11.07 | elite3vil | Yeah. |
| 18:11.12 | NeoTron | tanks died like flies from Sathrovarr |
| 18:11.16 | NivFreak | is it the hardest healing fight to that point? |
| 18:11.17 | elite3vil | We either twoshot him, or wipe on him all night. |
| 18:11.27 | NeoTron | he has a hit that does 10k shadow dmg with a 3k dot in addition to normal hard hits |
| 18:11.38 | NivFreak | do your tanks mix in SR? |
| 18:11.41 | NeoTron | no SR |
| 18:11.47 | elite3vil | It's one of the most stressful healing fights I've done |
| 18:11.49 | NeoTron | physical dmg is way too high to do that |
| 18:12.02 | NeoTron | it's similar to bloodboil in that aspect |
| 18:12.06 | elite3vil | Yeah. |
| 18:12.08 | NeoTron | main difference being there's a lot more damage |
| 18:12.10 | NeoTron | overall |
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| 18:12.22 | NeoTron | I won't say you can't do it. Just saying it's unlikely |
| 18:12.32 | NivFreak | well, we're just really about to get into the meat of BT |
| 18:12.39 | NivFreak | got the first 3 free loot bosses down |
| 18:12.44 | NivFreak | had time for 2 attempts on teron |
| 18:12.48 | NivFreak | first was to 11% |
| 18:12.51 | NivFreak | then bar failure of course |
| 18:12.58 | NivFreak | 2nd was bar failures on 3 people |
| 18:13.04 | NivFreak | so we called it and went to kara |
| 18:13.08 | NivFreak | to show them chess event |
| 18:13.10 | NivFreak | and how not to be retarded |
| 18:13.21 | NeoTron | see if you can't even do Gorefiend, kalecgos will not work |
| 18:13.23 | NivFreak | that fight is so stupid easy |
| 18:13.24 | elite3vil | We haven't had a real chance on Felmyst yet... 'cause this computer is a pos and I can't get out of the vapor in time with the 30 skeletons hitting me |
| 18:13.31 | NivFreak | NeoTron: it was just UI issue |
| 18:13.34 | NeoTron | in addition to a high amount of skill and gear needed for base roles |
| 18:13.43 | NeoTron | it's by far the hardest coordination fight in the game so far |
| 18:13.53 | NivFreak | I look forward to a good challenge |
| 18:14.02 | NivFreak | We do great at coordination fights |
| 18:14.15 | Funkeh`` | Lord farlander vs Alar |
| 18:14.17 | Funkeh`` | who will win |
| 18:14.19 | NivFreak | it's fights like archimonde, vashj, and teron that are riskier for us |
| 18:14.21 | NeoTron | I adjust killing him was great but it was one of the most frustrating kills, especially since it's often rnadomly unrepeatable |
| 18:14.24 | NivFreak | since one person can wipe us |
| 18:14.29 | NeoTron | took weeks for us to consistently kill him reasonbly fast |
| 18:14.47 | NeoTron | one person can wipe you on Kalecgos... and brutallus... and felmyst... |
| 18:14.53 | NeoTron | and twins... and muru... |
| 18:15.14 | NivFreak | yep |
| 18:15.21 | NivFreak | sunwell is another level, I'm well aware |
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| 18:15.31 | elite3vil | "I had burn, so I had to run to the 'burn person spot', it just so happens I ran through everyone on my side and hit the melee while I was running there.. people didn't get out of my way" |
| 18:15.47 | NeoTron | We're making good progress on the twins and that makes me happy. far from a kill but frankly a kill could happen at any poin with some luck |
| 18:16.06 | NeoTron | it's sort of like archimonde in a way. if the right people get conflagged, you can win. if the wrong one person gets it you die |
| 18:16.15 | kenlyric | quick quiz, who should move, you or the 20 people you're running into? |
| 18:16.21 | elite3vil | lol |
| 18:16.22 | NeoTron | the 20 people |
| 18:16.22 | NivFreak | NeoTron: that's rough on guilds like mine |
| 18:16.28 | NivFreak | we often have 1-2 people rotating |
| 18:16.28 | kenlyric | the answer is BOTH |
| 18:16.41 | NeoTron | I actually had a person move "out of my way" when I ahd burn |
| 18:16.46 | kenlyric | I learned that on fucking baron gheddon a lifetime ago |
| 18:16.52 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 18:16.53 | NeoTron | having the effect that the person ran straight into me without me having a chance to avoid him |
| 18:17.12 | kenlyric | When in doubt, expect stupidity and respond accordingly |
| 18:17.26 | elite3vil | I don't have to move at all on that fight |
| 18:17.29 | elite3vil | which is win. |
| 18:17.38 | NeoTron | I was running behind him, turning as I did and he jsut backed up. there was no way to avoid it - by the time I realized he was on fire |
| 18:17.55 | NeoTron | elite3vil: lock tank @ twins => don't have to worry about conflag, at all |
| 18:17.58 | NeoTron | the one big benefit |
| 18:18.07 | NivFreak | do you have to spec out of NP? |
| 18:18.12 | NeoTron | of course I'm moving constantly and it's harder than you think. you don't want to move when you do't have to |
| 18:18.23 | NeoTron | I haven't had nether protection.. ever |
| 18:18.29 | NeoTron | well since kael'thas at least |
| 18:18.32 | NivFreak | haha |
| 18:18.34 | NivFreak | NP is great |
| 18:18.34 | NeoTron | I always lock tank |
| 18:18.41 | NeoTron | yeah. great. |
| 18:18.42 | NivFreak | kael is the only place we've hit that it sucks |
| 18:18.48 | NivFreak | leo doesn't care about NP procs |
| 18:18.49 | Vulcanus | urk, our vent is down so we have to use blizz voice chat now XD |
| 18:18.49 | NeoTron | when illidan throws shadow bolt things on random people in the raid |
| 18:18.51 | elite3vil | Illidan would own your raid |
| 18:18.51 | NivFreak | cappy does |
| 18:19.06 | NivFreak | well, I have my lock spec out of it when needed :P |
| 18:19.15 | NivFreak | but that's why I asked |
| 18:19.18 | NeoTron | It's needed every week for me |
| 18:19.30 | NeoTron | so since we got illidan down 6 months ago or so I can't spec into it |
| 18:19.31 | digmouse | We wiped the whole night in front of Archimonde |
| 18:19.43 | elite3vil | I respec three to five times a week, it's kind of annoying. |
| 18:19.54 | NivFreak | digmouse: he's the only boss we've had a large number of wipes on |
| 18:20.04 | Dashkal | Vulcanus: I'm sorry... We've called a raid due to that... |
| 18:20.04 | NivFreak | 20 attempts to kill archimonde |
| 18:20.11 | NivFreak | well, 22 I guess |
| 18:20.12 | NeoTron | 20 attempts is not a large number of wipes |
| 18:20.20 | NivFreak | but 2 were half assed at the end of a night |
| 18:20.23 | Vulcanus | lmao |
| 18:20.26 | digmouse | we have about 30 tonight |
| 18:20.30 | NeoTron | 20 attempts is one evening |
| 18:20.31 | Obelixprime | with an amd x2 am2 3800 + cpu, 7900 gs video card + 2gb of ram + sata 7200 rpm drives + 80mb of addons how long should it take to get into wow from the beginning of the loading screen? |
| 18:20.34 | NivFreak | NeoTron: We've killed everything else in the game pre-teron in < 10 wipes |
| 18:20.35 | Vulcanus | its working for us tho, its just lower quality |
| 18:20.50 | NivFreak | we raid 2 nights a week, 3-3.5 hours a night |
| 18:20.52 | Vulcanus | and its only gruul, so long as people dont bugger up the pull we should be fine |
| 18:20.53 | NeoTron | kael'thas and vashj in less than 10 wipes is impressive |
| 18:21.06 | NivFreak | vashj was 9 attempts iirc |
| 18:21.10 | NivFreak | kael was 5 |
| 18:21.11 | digmouse | Obelixprime: 1minute maybe |
| 18:21.17 | NeoTron | \did they nerf him further? |
| 18:21.24 | NivFreak | I dunno, he's stupid easy imop |
| 18:21.25 | NivFreak | imo |
| 18:21.41 | NivFreak | vashj was a lot more random and harder |
| 18:21.41 | NivFreak | well let me put it this way |
| 18:21.41 | NeoTron | I gather you're the kind of guild that would be crushed if you suddently had 100 wipes on a boss |
| 18:22.05 | NivFreak | I just had our prot pally tank 3 weapons |
| 18:22.05 | NivFreak | lol |
| 18:22.05 | NivFreak | NeoTron: we've never been tested on that, so yea, it's a real risk |
| 18:22.05 | Obelixprime | digmouse: yeah, that's what I'm getting right now... sort of aggravating |
| 18:22.05 | NivFreak | a lot of our people are on easy street |
| 18:22.07 | digmouse | We FD Azgalor on one attempt |
| 18:22.09 | DARKGuy | Obelixprime: dunno, I have P4 3.2Ghz, 1,5Gb RAM 533/667 Mhz, 7200GS and IDE 40Gb HD x2, and with around 20 addons + libs (say, 35-40 folders) it takes about 1 minute or less |
| 18:22.28 | digmouse | and Archimonde 30 times without down him |
| 18:22.46 | digmouse | we plan to get a archi and Gorefiend FD this week |
| 18:22.59 | NivFreak | yea, I plan to get teron this week |
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| 18:23.06 | NivFreak | and maybe bloodboil, but we'll see |
| 18:23.07 | DARKGuy | Obelixprime: AddOns that have databases slow a lot your loading time |
| 18:23.10 | Obelixprime | 229 folders for addons + libs =| |
| 18:23.21 | DARKGuy | Obelixprime: such as Atlas, AtlasLoot, MobMap, LightHeaded, etc. |
| 18:23.27 | digmouse | We need a lot of pratices on the constructs |
| 18:23.33 | profalbert | ObelixPrime: 234 ;) |
| 18:23.53 | Obelixprime | profalbert: how long does it take for you to get in game? |
| 18:23.54 | digmouse | any idea about the constructs? |
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| 18:24.10 | Obelixprime | digmouse: spam spirit chains? |
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| 18:24.21 | Obelixprime | digmouse: tab spirit lance, tab? |
| 18:24.23 | profalbert | Obelixprime: 15-30 sec |
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| 18:24.30 | NeoTron | NivFreak: don't have bloodboil down then? |
| 18:24.32 | digmouse | last week we have our 1st attempt on him |
| 18:24.41 | NeoTron | because that's really the first hardish boss in BT |
| 18:24.51 | NivFreak | NeoTron: like I said, we're just about to get into the meat of it |
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| 18:25.02 | NivFreak | the first 4 are a joke |
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| 18:25.12 | NeoTron | yes |
| 18:25.12 | NivFreak | disappointingly so |
| 18:25.14 | NivFreak | same with hyjal |
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| 18:25.16 | digmouse | but the best of us only took 2 constructs down before they reach the healers |
| 18:25.17 | Obelixprime | the reason i'm asking the performance questions is I'm supposed to be mass dispelling on M'uru, and hte other night i got disconnected in the middle of the attempt, and it took me so long to log back in that we had already wiped. I know other people when they dc they're back on in less than 30 seconds |
| 18:25.19 | NeoTron | naj'entus was the only one that was a problem (but we still got naj and supremus our first night there) |
| 18:25.21 | NivFreak | nothing but archimonde is even a road bump |
| 18:25.27 | NeoTron | our healers weren't ready for the amount of raid healign needed |
| 18:25.31 | NivFreak | yea, we got naj and supremous on night one |
| 18:25.33 | profalbert | ObelixPrime: but I only have 174 addons/libs active in my current layout |
| 18:25.39 | NivFreak | but then oddly |
| 18:25.43 | NivFreak | week #2 |
| 18:25.46 | NivFreak | we had 5 wipes on najentus |
| 18:25.49 | digmouse | and we wiped 15sec after the first wave of constructs |
| 18:25.51 | NivFreak | because peopel were being retarded |
| 18:25.55 | NivFreak | well, 4 wipes |
| 18:25.57 | NivFreak | and a kill |
| 18:26.00 | NeoTron | Obelixprime: less addons is good, but mainly you want all libs externalized |
| 18:26.14 | NeoTron | Obelixprime: that helps a lot in load speed since it only loads each lib once |
| 18:26.20 | profalbert | NeoTron: guess he already did that |
| 18:26.21 | digmouse | we downed naj, supremus and akama on one run, no wipes lol |
| 18:26.56 | NivFreak | yea, akama is really easy too |
| 18:27.06 | NivFreak | we failed on him once because I didn't put enough dps on the sides |
| 18:27.10 | Obelixprime | NeoTron: By externalized do you mean selectable through the addons window on startup? |
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| 18:27.16 | digmouse | and I get my first 25-raid epic tonight lol |
| 18:27.21 | NivFreak | I thought it'd be more important to get the channelers down ASAP |
| 18:27.23 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76481 10/trunk/ (LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ PetAndMountDatabase/): Renamed as it is a library, and my original idea is not going to happen for it (it will always be a library) |
| 18:27.24 | digmouse | a T6 glove |
| 18:27.51 | digmouse | we have 2 shamen, 2 rogue and me,a hunter to get down those channelers |
| 18:28.21 | NeoTron | Obelixprime: yes |
| 18:28.31 | NeoTron | but mainly the way to speed things up is to have less addons |
| 18:28.39 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76482 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ (LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ PetAndMountDatabase-1.0/): |
| 18:28.39 | CIA-43 | LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0: |
| 18:28.39 | CIA-43 | - Renamed folder to reflect it is a library |
| 18:28.47 | NeoTron | can try .. err whatever the addon is that times addon load time |
| 18:28.52 | NivFreak | in a way I wish I hadn't become dependant on my ~300 addons+libs |
| 18:29.00 | Obelixprime | Option house? |
| 18:29.16 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76483 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ (LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0.toc PetAndMountDatabase.toc): |
| 18:29.16 | CIA-43 | LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0: |
| 18:29.16 | CIA-43 | - Also renamed the toc... |
| 18:29.44 | digmouse | I installed about 350 addons and lib due to my localization works on so many addons |
| 18:30.31 | profalbert | I guess 20% of my addons aren't used by any toon |
| 18:30.49 | digmouse | and what should be the best way to deal with the constructs? |
| 18:31.04 | digmouse | chain first, or tab+lance each ,then chain? |
| 18:31.04 | profalbert | digmouse: do the simulator |
| 18:31.08 | smallbrain | profalbert: hi ;) |
| 18:31.10 | digmouse | I did |
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| 18:31.13 | smallbrain | wtf |
| 18:31.18 | Obelixprime | chaining first |
| 18:31.20 | Obelixprime | for sure |
| 18:31.36 | digmouse | tried ~50 times and my best record is downed 3 and with 1 80% |
| 18:31.38 | Obelixprime | cause then they're stuck in place and you have time to actually figure out what you're doing |
| 18:31.45 | smallbrain | why is my name wrong >_< |
| 18:32.10 | Obelixprime | cause its a bit disorienting right when you become a ghost |
| 18:32.35 | digmouse | chain first , then tab+lance each, then AOE? |
| 18:32.52 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76484 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0.toc: |
| 18:32.52 | CIA-43 | LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0: |
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| 18:32.56 | smallbrain | or if you're sure of what you're doing, spam AOE while still alive and chain immedeatiely after it goes through |
| 18:33.29 | digmouse | I dont think I can chain twice before they wiped us |
| 18:33.40 | digmouse | need i stack 3 or 4 lances on each? |
| 18:33.48 | smallbrain | you won't get past 2 stacks on each |
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| 18:34.00 | smallbrain | more than likely |
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| 18:34.01 | CIA-43 | MiniPet: |
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| 18:34.25 | digmouse | need to put 2 stacks on each after chain, or just 1 each only? |
| 18:34.33 | Obelixprime | spirit lance is spammable |
| 18:34.43 | digmouse | seems dont get much time to stack 2 |
| 18:34.53 | Obelixprime | so you shouldn't have any trouble easily switching targets and getting them with 2-3 lances after the first one |
| 18:34.56 | Gnarfoz | did you read *any* guide by chance? ^^ |
| 18:35.40 | Gnarfoz | spam AOE until you're actually in ghost form, shackle immediately. cycle through all 4 constructs with ice lance until AOE and Shackle come off cooldown, use AOE, shackle - repeat |
| 18:36.11 | felesya | its getting easier if other ghosts who done the job already help you, too |
| 18:36.18 | digmouse | let me tell: chain first, tab and lance 1 time on each, AOE, then tab and lance again before the chain gets cooldown? |
| 18:36.52 | felesya | aoe, chain, 4 tab lances -> repeat |
| 18:36.53 | genetik- | aoe removes all slowing effects |
| 18:37.04 | genetik- | so you want to do that right before a shackle |
| 18:37.09 | digmouse | aoe first, then chain? |
| 18:37.17 | felesya | yup |
| 18:37.27 | felesya | ad get your people do the damn flash game |
| 18:37.40 | felesya | its so damn hard people will laugh at the real ghosts |
| 18:38.03 | digmouse | AOE, chain, tab and lance each, tab and lance each, chain if cooldown, aoe? |
| 18:39.34 | Gnarfoz | there is no if there, what's so complicated about it ;D |
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| 18:40.12 | CIA-43 | Stable: |
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| 18:40.21 | digmouse | :( do that in ~6-10 secs before they wiped you is so difficult |
| 18:40.36 | Gnarfoz | facepalm |
| 18:40.54 | Gnarfoz | play the flash game, it's harder than the actual thing ingame ;p |
| 18:41.16 | digmouse | my best record is 3 with 1 80% |
| 18:41.28 | digmouse | most times 2 is my hardest |
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| 18:42.36 | Gnarfoz | I thought failing at Teron was limited to my raid's bad days. it seems to have spread. ^^ |
| 18:42.38 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76487 10Tabard/Tabard.toc: |
| 18:42.38 | CIA-43 | Tabard: |
| 18:42.38 | CIA-43 | - TOC update version for WowAce Wiki |
| 18:43.06 | digmouse | and I only get ~15 fps in his hall :( |
| 18:43.27 | genetik- | then that's likely your single point of failure right there |
| 18:43.35 | Gnarfoz | no comment |
| 18:43.40 | mjc_ | http://twitter.com/steverubel/statuses/832383464 |
| 18:43.42 | mjc_ | heh thanks apple |
| 18:44.01 | genetik- | when you die during the encounter to do the ghosts, you're lickly going to spawn as a ghost after the constructs have already spawned and moved past you out of your shackle range |
| 18:44.05 | genetik- | so you're already at a disadvantage |
| 18:44.16 | genetik- | s/lickly/likely/ |
| 18:44.30 | digmouse | think if I can down 2 or 3 in the simulator, I can do well in the real combat |
| 18:44.44 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz: where is the flash game? :D |
| 18:45.42 | Josh_Borke | digmouse: get all 4 |
| 18:46.17 | digmouse | :( almost impossible |
| 18:46.30 | Josh_Borke | the hardest part for me in the flash game was the fact that i started out in the middle of the raid and didn't know i could move (because i didn't read the instructions) |
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| 18:46.39 | Josh_Borke | ~practice |
| 18:46.41 | digmouse | lol |
| 18:46.41 | Gnarfoz | Josh_Borke: RTFM |
| 18:46.54 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:46.58 | DARKGuy | hey I want the flash game :( |
| 18:47.11 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: no shit sherlock |
| 18:47.13 | genetik- | DARKGuy: google "teron gorefiend simulator" |
| 18:47.15 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy: http://www.ferox-horde.de/feroxtgs2/ |
| 18:47.17 | DARKGuy | o_o |
| 18:47.18 | DARKGuy | really |
| 18:47.19 | NeoTron | the flash game is pointless |
| 18:47.22 | Josh_Borke | ~google teron gorefiend flash |
| 18:47.23 | genetik- | NeoTron: agree |
| 18:47.29 | NeoTron | it's nothing like ti, it's almost impossible and it doesn't actually help |
| 18:47.31 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: disagree |
| 18:47.33 | digmouse | http://www.ferox-horde.de/feroxtgs2/ |
| 18:47.50 | NeoTron | I have zero issues with the real thing and I'm completely unable to finish the flash version |
| 18:47.54 | Gnarfoz | it's fucking easy and even then it's still harder than what you do ingame xD |
| 18:48.18 | DARKGuy | fucking sweet |
| 18:48.24 | DARKGuy | I can play WoW @ work |
| 18:48.26 | DARKGuy | .. at least it's flash |
| 18:48.27 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 18:48.31 | genetik- | NeoTron: i feel the same way about it. as long as you're not an idiot and understand the mechanics and abilities, it's easy as hell in game |
| 18:48.44 | Gnarfoz | core part there: "not being an idiot" ;D |
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| 18:50.02 | genetik- | digmouse: i'm guessing you guys haven't worked on him at all? |
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| 18:50.28 | digmouse | genetik-: we have ~10 attempts on him last week |
| 18:50.49 | digmouse | and the best record is ~60% |
| 18:51.14 | mykx | lol NeoTron, funny you should say that I can do the flash game np yet i'm terrible at the real thing |
| 18:52.05 | genetik- | i made a [Steam Tonk Controller] for everyone in my guild before we made any attempts on him and had everyone play around with them in their spare time. doing that specifically to prevent a "i don't know where my pet bar is" issue. |
| 18:52.25 | NeoTron | mykx: proves my point I think. :P they are unrelated |
| 18:52.34 | digmouse | :( |
| 18:53.15 | mykx | but we just burn gorefiend quick as hell so its rarely an issue :P |
| 18:54.01 | digmouse | go farming some honor to prepare |
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| 18:59.33 | NeoTron | genetik-: now THAT I can see being useful |
| 19:00.42 | digmouse | tried 10 times, best record 2 |
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| 19:05.27 | genetik- | NeoTron: i think it probably caught a bunch of potential wipes |
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| 19:12.06 | NeoTron | funny thing with gorefiend is that even after 6 months you can suddenly wipe because someone who never did it before got ghosted |
| 19:12.46 | NivFreak | or someone changes thier binds in a bad way |
| 19:12.50 | nevcairiel | its even funnier, if thats the first person |
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| 19:13.07 | NivFreak | so our holy priest is usually totally on the ball gets ghosted |
| 19:13.13 | NeoTron | I caused a wipe when I got ghosted the first time after bartender added possess bar support |
| 19:13.19 | NivFreak | and his bt3 bindings for his possess bar are something totally different |
| 19:13.22 | NivFreak | like q b r |
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| 19:13.23 | NivFreak | or something |
| 19:13.37 | NivFreak | he swears he's never screwed with those keybindings |
| 19:13.41 | nevcairiel | he probably used a macro bar that he switches to eh? |
| 19:13.51 | NivFreak | not sure |
| 19:13.59 | nevcairiel | because thats the only reason, it would break |
| 19:14.01 | NivFreak | he still doesn't know why, but it was easy to correct |
| 19:14.04 | nevcairiel | because petbar was not disabled |
| 19:14.08 | NeoTron | I used macros in 1, 2, 3. suddently it's 3, 4, 5 :P |
| 19:14.42 | NivFreak | so, we're just having people bind the secondary action keys to num pad |
| 19:14.47 | NivFreak | 1 2 3 |
| 19:15.01 | NivFreak | bt3 worked flawlessly for me |
| 19:15.21 | Cheads | first time al'ar flies up... 2 dead tanks.. baaaah =( |
| 19:15.28 | NivFreak | Cheads: replace them both |
| 19:15.33 | NivFreak | or just boot them |
| 19:15.40 | NivFreak | well actually |
| 19:15.43 | Gnarfoz | his bt3 fucked up, yours worked? |
| 19:15.47 | NivFreak | do you have two tanks who don't fail consistently? |
| 19:15.50 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: yea |
| 19:15.51 | Cheads | nah |
| 19:15.55 | NivFreak | wow.. |
| 19:16.05 | NivFreak | you might want to just find a new guild |
| 19:16.07 | Cheads | we have new tanks every day |
| 19:16.11 | NivFreak | bad tanks have ripple effects |
| 19:16.34 | Cheads | both that died was first time there though =) |
| 19:17.11 | SunTsu | Cheads: Really, jumping down when a giant bird flies up isn't that hard to do |
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| 19:17.36 | NivFreak | Cheads: is someone calling it in vent? |
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| 19:18.09 | SunTsu | I mean, you don't have to do anything at that moment to watch where the bird is going |
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| 19:20.05 | felesya | sun, its sometimes hard to see it |
| 19:20.28 | NivFreak | no |
| 19:20.30 | NivFreak | it's really not |
| 19:20.33 | SunTsu | felesya: Really? I tanked him lots of times, it's never been hard to see |
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| 19:21.04 | felesya | hm, tanked him too sometimes.. didnt really watch alar all the time tho |
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| 19:22.01 | Cheads | NivFreak no but several spamming RW and ra... second try.. 2 dead tanks on first fly up =) |
| 19:22.09 | NivFreak | Cheads: use vent |
| 19:22.36 | digmouse | I didnt completed my hyjal attunement :( I want that ring |
| 19:22.59 | SunTsu | Cheads: Use vent or ts and have only one person talking, the one coordinating the tanks |
| 19:23.25 | felesya | i know the feeling.. rerolled from feral to holy priest.. gief the ring :/ exalted to hyjal since months |
| 19:23.43 | felesya | @digmouse |
| 19:23.44 | felesya | :D |
| 19:23.48 | NivFreak | Cheads: if you guys can't use vent to call that, they are going to fail hard at molten armor taunts in phase 2 |
| 19:24.10 | felesya | hm, nay.. the molten armor taunts are pretty easy to see |
| 19:24.15 | Cheads | we have vent(or ingame crap to be exact) in phase 2 |
| 19:24.18 | felesya | cause you see debuffs on tot |
| 19:24.38 | NivFreak | felesya: not as easy as seeing a big bird flying up |
| 19:24.50 | NivFreak | btw, al'ar is retarded |
| 19:25.16 | NivFreak | why does blizzard make mobs that are immune to a DPS classes primary raid spec |
| 19:25.31 | Cheads | blizzard failed when they made the first bosses in ssc and tk the hardest of the normal bosses |
| 19:25.39 | felesya | NivFreak: its a damn phoenix god :D dps isnt the problem there too |
| 19:25.48 | NivFreak | al'ar can be tight |
| 19:25.51 | NivFreak | on the enrage |
| 19:26.05 | felesya | yea, but enrage starts from p2 |
| 19:26.20 | NivFreak | yes |
| 19:27.02 | felesya | dunno, i dont think its that great problem.. poor mages are always QQing, no matter what happens :P |
| 19:27.42 | genetik- | heh.. al'ar is one of my favorite encounters in the game |
| 19:28.02 | felesya | he's quite fun when you progress him.. but is pretty boring on farm |
| 19:28.05 | Avrys | Your guilds have mages? :( |
| 19:28.10 | Avrys | Must be nice |
| 19:28.27 | felesya | haha, yea, actually we are pretty full on mages |
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| 19:29.04 | felesya | we even have mages who can dps |
| 19:29.10 | Cheads | felesya I dont agree =) |
| 19:29.11 | Avrys | We've had to bring an alt mage in for a table the last 2 SSC raids |
| 19:29.29 | genetik- | i always liked the illusion of chaos aspect of phase 2 al'ar |
| 19:30.21 | felesya | genetik-: ah well, it was fun catching the birdies who are immune to daze/stun effects of feral charge :D |
| 19:30.50 | genetik- | taunt? |
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| 19:31.17 | felesya | yea, ofc, but it was fun when taunt resists :D |
| 19:31.29 | genetik- | heh |
| 19:31.36 | cubicool | Avrys: what server do you play on? |
| 19:31.41 | Avrys | Uldaman |
| 19:31.44 | cubicool | holy shit :) |
| 19:31.45 | felesya | us? |
| 19:31.49 | Avrys | Yea, US |
| 19:31.50 | cubicool | YOu're the pimped out pally :) |
| 19:31.55 | Avrys | Hahah |
| 19:31.56 | Avrys | Yea |
| 19:31.58 | stew_a | hi, whats the correct externals url for Ace3? http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/Ace3/Beta/Ace_______ doesnt seem to have the AddToBlizOptions method in AceConfigDialog or anywhere else |
| 19:32.00 | cubicool | In Retal? |
| 19:32.03 | Avrys | Yup |
| 19:32.06 | cubicool | lulz :) |
| 19:32.09 | cubicool | That's hilarious |
| 19:32.21 | Avrys | I take it you've seen me then ^_^ lol |
| 19:32.24 | cubicool | I saw you and another Pally in your guild decked out in front of Kara last night |
| 19:32.38 | Avrys | Solann? |
| 19:32.42 | Avrys | He's our main healer |
| 19:32.42 | cubicool | Yeah, I think so. |
| 19:32.50 | Avrys | Full Badge/ZA/epic gems irc |
| 19:32.51 | Avrys | iirc |
| 19:32.59 | cubicool | Well, i say decked out. :) |
| 19:33.06 | cubicool | We're scrubs, so T5 is "awesome" to us. |
| 19:33.12 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76488 10MiniPet/MiniPet.toc: |
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| 19:33.17 | Avrys | ZA > t5 for most classes imo |
| 19:33.26 | felesya | go get sunwell badge items :D |
| 19:33.27 | Avrys | We got out first bearmount on this server Monday tho ^_^ |
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| 19:33.50 | felesya | grats |
| 19:33.55 | Avrys | Who are you / what guild cubicool? |
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| 19:34.02 | CIA-43 | DailyQuester: |
| 19:34.02 | CIA-43 | - Again updated toc to make updaters happy |
| 19:34.02 | CIA-43 | - Fixed LibQuixote-2.0 loading embedded |
| 19:34.37 | cubicool | I've got a scrubby lock named Valgrind and a dr00d named Lifebloomer. |
| 19:35.01 | Avrys | Think I've seen ya around Shat on the druid |
| 19:35.17 | cubicool | He used to be named Helguard... |
| 19:35.26 | cubicool | But some asshat took that name when I transferred off for a bit. |
| 19:35.32 | Avrys | Do'h |
| 19:35.33 | Cheads | progress, now the tanks die because of LOS =) |
| 19:35.44 | Avrys | Cheads - Gkick imo ^_^ |
| 19:35.50 | felesya | los problems on alar? |
| 19:35.56 | felesya | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.59 | cubicool | I used to be in EH with the guys that formed Deliverance; I should have left with them, I'd be in T6 now if I did. :( |
| 19:36.21 | Avrys | Meh, T5 and early T6 is way more fun than late t6 / sunwell~ |
| 19:36.22 | Cheads | those that died is first time there |
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| 19:36.51 | felesya | still, its so easy to stay on the ramp there.. |
| 19:37.01 | cubicool | Avrys: are you a WoWAce user or just lurking here? :) |
| 19:37.10 | Avrys | User :P |
| 19:37.16 | SunTsu | felesya: Not if you are a gnome warrior ;) |
| 19:37.20 | Avrys | I also lurk ^_^ |
| 19:37.23 | genetik- | SunTsu: lies :P |
| 19:37.25 | cubicool | love my CaMeLcAsE |
| 19:37.26 | SunTsu | There LOS is sort of razor's edge ;) |
| 19:37.29 | felesya | hahaha, SunTsu |
| 19:37.50 | Cheads | gkick would never be an option anyway |
| 19:37.55 | SunTsu | We had one who farmed MgT for that orb to change his appearance up and down ;) |
| 19:38.08 | genetik- | heh |
| 19:38.11 | felesya | SunTsu: gnomes dont have aneasy life anywhere.. *thinks of black morass before it was fixed* |
| 19:38.17 | Avrys | P.S. - Why are tanks and healers such emoridden classes? DPS never seens to be as flaky ;( |
| 19:38.32 | cubicool | emoridden is possibly the best word ever |
| 19:38.37 | cubicool | ~emulate cubicool |
| 19:38.45 | cubicool | bah |
| 19:39.02 | SunTsu | felesya: Yeah, I know. The same warrior: "Hey, I actually can stay and don't have to swim!" |
| 19:40.03 | SunTsu | s/stay/stand/ |
| 19:40.03 | cubicool | Avrys: What kind of mods are you developing? |
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| 19:40.27 | felesya | Avrys: dunno what you mean.. only bad healers act like emo "ohmagawd, los/oom/noideawhat" |
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| 19:41.02 | cubicool | Our guild is 1:1 male/female... we have tons of emo. |
| 19:41.08 | stew_a | can i use http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace3/RC1/ for externals or do i have to use tags? |
| 19:41.14 | Avrys | felesya - All the guilds I've ever been in have a really high turnover in tanks and healers, they just flake out and whatnot, stop showing or quit wow or etc |
| 19:41.22 | cubicool | I saw a guild on Arthas called: <don't cry emo kid> |
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| 19:42.32 | felesya | Avrys: dunno, i've been in many guilds.. and in most of the times people who acted like that were retards anyway |
| 19:43.21 | felesya | .. or they were female guild and raid leaders who had her peroid way too often, like my last guild :S |
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| 19:45.27 | Avrys | hah |
| 19:45.29 | mjc_ | lol felesya |
| 19:46.02 | felesya | true story! |
| 19:46.23 | Chaud | vivendi universal interactive publishing inc. and activision publishing and activision publishing inc. and blizzard entertainment and blizzard europe sas are all blizzard related traffic right? |
| 19:46.57 | Silviu- | stew_a i think is http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/ |
| 19:47.25 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76490 10Mount/ (. Mount.lua Mount.toc): |
| 19:47.25 | CIA-43 | Mount: |
| 19:47.25 | CIA-43 | - Fixed TOC x-embeds and depends to reflect changes in name to LibHelper and PetAndMountDatabase |
| 19:47.34 | felesya | not sure about activision, but vivendi and blizzard europe are, Chaud |
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| 19:47.36 | stew_a | thanks Silviu |
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| 19:48.37 | Chaud | didnt they change blizz to activision blizzard? |
| 19:49.25 | pastamancer | actizzard |
| 19:49.54 | Chaud | if they are all related, 235 visits from blizzard/parent companies in 5 days =D |
| 19:49.55 | CIA-43 | 03stewart * r76491 10AIBot/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): AIBot: Fix errors from embeds and externals |
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| 19:50.29 | felesya | Chaud: visits? |
| 19:52.09 | Cheads | whoho.. just one dead tank in p1 =) |
| 19:52.30 | felesya | if you had 3, you can actually do it :D |
| 19:52.45 | felesya | but better conbat ress him :D |
| 19:53.06 | Cheads | well first time 2 of the tanks saw p2 =) |
| 19:53.28 | Chaud | to this wotlk site |
| 19:53.39 | Cheads | but remember we only have gear from ssc(not vash) |
| 19:53.44 | Cheads | +j |
| 19:54.11 | felesya | Cheads: this fight isnt a gear check imo |
| 19:54.32 | felesya | just a retard check + check if your tanks are on their toes |
| 19:54.36 | nevcairiel | still talking about alar? |
| 19:54.44 | felesya | nevcairiel: yup |
| 19:55.19 | Cheads | felesya sure.. but it certainly makes it a bit easier with better gear in p2 |
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| 20:01.36 | felesya | no inv for felmyst for me :( |
| 20:02.04 | felesya | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.05 | felesya | :( |
| 20:03.12 | Gnarfoz | maybe it's because you fail? :> or they just hate you without any particular reason. :> |
| 20:04.44 | cubicool | Avrys: You never told me what kind of mods you're hacking on. :) |
| 20:05.25 | felesya | :O bai lots of people |
| 20:05.25 | cubicool | bai2u kubrick.freenode.net |
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| 20:09.14 | CIA-43 | 03apoco * r76492 10RBM_BlackTemple/Supremus.lua: RBM_BlackTemple: Supremus like 92 bug fix. |
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| 20:11.50 | cubicool | The lyrics to some of the songs on "Kid A" are just plain whack. |
| 20:11.52 | CIA-43 | 03LordFarlander * r76493 10Tabard/Tabard.toc: |
| 20:11.52 | CIA-43 | Tabard: |
| 20:11.52 | CIA-43 | - Another fix for the TOC, fixed X-Embeds |
| 20:14.52 | Gnarfoz | cubicool: btw, that message says which server you're on and it's hub server. you can't really say which server split out from that message alone |
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| 20:29.18 | CIA-43 | 03funkydude * r76494 10StatBlocks_DPS/StatBlocks_DPS.lua: |
| 20:29.18 | CIA-43 | StatBlocks_DPS: |
| 20:29.18 | CIA-43 | - bugfix changing throttle |
| 20:29.18 | CIA-43 | - default throttle to 0.5 |
| 20:30.38 | Avrys | cubicool - Mostly just changes to existing mods for myself/guild |
| 20:31.33 | cubicool | Avrys: you gotta' let me know if you're ever recruiting another active resto Dr00d. :) |
| 20:31.41 | Avrys | Healers? Yes plox. |
| 20:31.42 | cubicool | Although I'm only sporting about 1500 +healing atm |
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| 20:32.34 | cubicool | My lack of gear keeps me out of the tier of play I "feel" like I belong. I just get hoodwinked into playing with my "friends" too much... :) |
| 20:32.41 | Avrys | Ah :D |
| 20:33.11 | Avrys | Mostly, I'm trying to write a comprehensive raid utility, and I keep getting distracted before I finish it ^_^ |
| 20:33.29 | DARKGuy | What does your utility do? :O |
| 20:33.56 | Avrys | Right this minute? Bombs out ^_^ |
| 20:34.24 | Avrys | I'm not really a codemonkey so I get grand ideas, start coding, get distracted and abandon it for 2 months and have to start from scratch, lols ;( |
| 20:34.26 | charon | wonders if "comprehensive utility" is a contradiction in terms |
| 20:34.32 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 20:34.41 | DARKGuy | I have the same problem Avrys :P |
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| 20:37.34 | Avrys | What I want it to do is similar to what oRA2 does, but with a few extras especially concerning attendance tracking, and minus a lot of the periphery stuff |
| 20:37.56 | Avrys | and most especially a client and raidleader module for it, so people who are allergic to mods unless forced don't have to configure anything |
| 20:38.53 | profalbert | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.02 | felesya | profalbert: lol |
| 20:40.11 | charon | sounds like a bug in dbmftlbbq? otherwise, how could they find out :p |
| 20:40.33 | Cheads | finally no deaths in p1.. and got al'ar to 30% in p2 |
| 20:41.00 | profalbert | I wrote something about starting Pulltimers visible for BigWigs and DBM when using BigWigs |
| 20:41.12 | Avrys | DARKGuy, cubicool - Likelyhood I'll ever get it finished enough to use? Slim to none ^_^ lol |
| 20:41.30 | profalbert | Sometimes the timer doesn't properly broadcast to DBM when not using DBMFTLBBQ |
| 20:41.35 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: did you try it out beforehand? I mean, did they see your timers while you weren't using DBM? |
| 20:41.43 | DARKGuy | Avrys: gotta do it! I'd use it :3 |
| 20:41.50 | profalbert | I didn't start any timers |
| 20:41.58 | Avrys | DARKGuy: So would I ^_^ lol |
| 20:42.04 | DARKGuy | XD |
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| 20:48.35 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: I only made an addon, listening to DBM-timer-messages and starting BigWigs timers locally, so I don't have to use DBM anymore |
| 20:49.53 | Funkeh`` | that solution was created into bigwigs once |
| 20:50.03 | Funkeh`` | but removed because dbm synced all it's bars |
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| 20:50.09 | Funkeh`` | resulting in a mess in bigwigs |
| 20:50.53 | profalbert | Fenkeh``: I know |
| 20:51.09 | profalbert | but I tested it in SWP yesterday |
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| 20:52.00 | profalbert | and if i listen to timers with "UNKNOWN" in it (which is the module the timer comes from) there is no spamming with other timerbars |
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| 20:52.30 | Funkeh`` | well if you get some working solution feel free to make a 3rd party addon and commit it |
| 20:52.59 | profalbert | I'll commit it to branches at first |
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| 20:54.57 | Avrys | I'd kill for a BigWigs module that handled boss fight timers, ala DBM |
| 20:55.28 | profalbert | Avrys: you mean syncing them like DBM or WITH DBM? |
| 20:55.40 | Avrys | Just displaying the fight time as the boss dies |
| 20:55.43 | Avrys | like DBM does :p |
| 20:55.54 | profalbert | Avrys: FuBar_CombatTimeFu |
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| 20:56.04 | CIA-43 | 03broliant * r76495 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (4 files): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Ground-up rewrite to tidy up internal structure and re-order menus. Many general improvements. |
| 20:56.04 | Avrys | O rly. |
| 20:56.07 | profalbert | Avrys: or do you mean the autorespond? |
| 20:56.23 | Avrys | profalbert - Nah, just the "Nightbane down in 4:53" message |
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| 20:57.05 | profalbert | Avrys: FuBar_CombatTimeFu displays the duration of the last combat in FuBar |
| 20:57.41 | Avrys | Guess I might have to look at adding FuBar to my mods then :p |
| 20:59.19 | CIA-43 | 03profalbert * r76496 10/branches/BigWigs_PizzaBar/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:59.19 | CIA-43 | BigWigs_PizzaBar: |
| 20:59.19 | CIA-43 | - listens to DBM-timer-messages and starts local BigWigs-Timerbars if |
| 20:59.19 | CIA-43 | it's a custom timer ("Pizza-Timer") started by a DBM-user |
| 20:59.19 | CIA-43 | - initial commit |
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| 21:09.48 | Ironhand | is there an Ace addon that, like the non-ace LinksList, can cache links to quests/abilities/tradeskills as well as items? |
| 21:10.10 | Gnarfoz | why would you use another one, when you already have one doing it? |
| 21:10.31 | nevcairiel | why would you need to cache those links? |
| 21:10.37 | nevcairiel | you can always query them from the server : |
| 21:10.44 | Kuosi | idd |
| 21:11.20 | Kuosi | caching gives you rly nothing but massiv mem load |
| 21:11.37 | Ironhand | Gnarfoz: because this addon is relatively cumbersome to use, unlike most Ace addons of a similar nature |
| 21:11.55 | Ironhand | nevcairiel: ok, maybe not cache - but have them available for easy search & linking all the same |
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| 21:12.22 | nevcairiel | Tuller played around doing quest/spell links with Ludwig once |
| 21:12.25 | CIA-43 | 03profalbert * r76497 10/branches/BigWigs_PizzaBar/ (PizzaBar.lua libs/): |
| 21:12.25 | CIA-43 | BigWigs_PizzaBars: |
| 21:12.25 | CIA-43 | - added externals |
| 21:12.33 | nevcairiel | dunno if that ever went somewhere |
| 21:12.56 | Ironhand | nevcairiel: that sounds like the sort of thing I'm after (as I rather like Ludwig), thanks... I'll see if I can find more about those attempts |
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| 21:18.31 | Ironhand | Tuller - a little birdie (or maybe not so little, what do I know) told me that you once experimented with doing quest/spell links in Ludwig... as that's the sort of thing I'm currently looking for, did it end up going anywhere? |
| 21:19.20 | Tuller | nope! |
| 21:19.59 | Ironhand | ok, thanks for your response anyway :-) guess I'll stay with LinksList until something else that's better drops from the sky for now |
| 21:20.40 | nevcairiel | you should do it imho, a searchable spell interface would be neat =P |
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| 21:23.43 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: mobspells |
| 21:23.52 | [Ammo] | does it for spells you encounter in the wild |
| 21:24.02 | nevcairiel | seeing how spells are always available |
| 21:24.13 | [Ammo] | ah yeah you could do a giantic query of doom indeed :p |
| 21:27.22 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: can i change the strata of candybar bars? |
| 21:27.45 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: not without modifying the frame |
| 21:27.57 | nevcairiel | can i with LibBars? |
| 21:27.59 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 21:27.59 | [Ammo] | change to libbars-1.0 :p |
| 21:28.08 | nevcairiel | needs more trunk! |
| 21:28.09 | [Ammo] | you have full control over the frame there |
| 21:28.12 | [Ammo] | shrug |
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| 21:30.30 | nevcairiel | i should just move it to trunk, start using it, fix remaining bugs =P |
| 21:30.42 | [Ammo] | sounds like a plan |
| 21:30.48 | [Ammo] | I need to use it as well |
| 21:30.51 | [Ammo] | :p |
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| 21:33.30 | Tuller | libbars = ? |
| 21:34.07 | Zyndrome | FUCK YOU BRUTALLUS |
| 21:34.13 | Zyndrome | 3 VANQ BELTS AGAIN |
| 21:34.14 | dylanm | Tuller: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/LibBars-1.0/ |
| 21:34.16 | Zyndrome | dies |
| 21:34.29 | dylanm | Antiarc wrote a CandyBar. |
| 21:34.34 | dylanm | That's the short of it. |
| 21:35.04 | [Ammo] | no he wrote what I started writing in a differnet thing |
| 21:35.09 | [Ammo] | and then I poked and prodded |
| 21:35.14 | [Ammo] | and now I agree on libbars :p |
| 21:35.17 | Tuller | oooh djembe/embargo is one vote off of being a tie |
| 21:35.53 | Kuosi | both suck =( |
| 21:35.57 | Kuosi | stick to Mangos! |
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| 21:36.45 | dylanm | Just call it Bongos Vista. |
| 21:36.53 | Stanzilla | ./vote Mangos |
| 21:37.00 | Kuosi | that would make it very unpopular dylanm |
| 21:37.22 | Tuller | dylanm: actually way back in the bongos1 days I was thinking about making a transparency/autofading thing called exactly that |
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| 21:39.45 | dylanm | Or maybe (Bongos)^RED if the user is against AIDS in Africa. |
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| 21:41.16 | Tuller | if its bongos anything its bongos45 |
| 21:41.23 | Tuller | its going to be either the winner of the poll or mangos |
| 21:42.15 | dylanm | I think people like Mangos but if you think the conflict is serious enough... |
| 21:42.52 | nevcairiel | not like googling bongos gives you more accurate results then mangos |
| 21:43.19 | nevcairiel | its a nice pun on MaNGOS =P |
| 21:43.21 | Tuller | actually bongos2 is the #5 result on google :P |
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| 21:43.33 | Tuller | for bongos |
| 21:43.45 | nevcairiel | i tried without a number |
| 21:43.53 | Tuller | same :P |
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| 21:44.29 | nevcairiel | bartender is only 10th :( |
| 21:44.29 | Apokalio | pls know anybody a Action bar addon named "zBar" ? |
| 21:44.48 | Tuller | yep |
| 21:44.51 | Tuller | its on wowinterface |
| 21:45.01 | Tuller | beyond that, I don't know anything about it |
| 21:45.22 | Apokalio | snif |
| 21:45.39 | Kuosi | heard of it, never tried myself and dont know any1 that uses either :o |
| 21:46.02 | dylanm | http://code.google.com/p/zbar/ too. |
| 21:46.32 | Apokalio | its perfect for placing all main barrs and some +bars together middle window, but last patch was make many trouble jet |
| 21:47.13 | Apokalio | you can set a look, scale, an so |
| 21:47.17 | DARKGuy | That's sexy |
| 21:47.23 | DARKGuy | if only BT4 could do that though T_T |
| 21:47.40 | dylanm | Apokalio: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/10867/ look at the comments. |
| 21:47.52 | Apokalio | but now if you set some seetings and then log out all is lost and you can set all again and again :( |
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| 21:48.10 | dylanm | Someone seems to have a fix. |
| 21:48.33 | Apokalio | last fix was before 2.4.2 |
| 21:49.33 | dylanm | Someone on June 1 seems to have had success. Have you tried it? |
| 21:49.43 | Apokalio | eazy to set, eazy to us, rly sexy but now ... i just ask if anybody dont know some fix page with this nice addon |
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| 21:50.43 | Apokalio | last update 13. April |
| 21:50.49 | dylanm | THE. COMMENTS. |
| 21:54.01 | dylanm | The comments that talk about replacing line 99 of zBarT.lua. |
| 21:55.22 | Apokalio | ah ye thnx a lot |
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| 21:56.21 | CIA-43 | 03apoco * r76498 10RBM_AbilityWatch/RBM_AbilityWatch.lua: |
| 21:56.21 | CIA-43 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 21:56.21 | CIA-43 | - Spell List updated to include all proper dr's and several new spells. |
| 21:56.21 | CIA-43 | - Diminishing Returns activated. I am aware the "Select All" button does not |
| 21:56.21 | CIA-43 | work. Diminishing returns also do not currently support the custom label |
| 21:56.21 | CIA-43 | settings. This will be included in the future. Please give feedback on the DR |
| 21:56.25 | CIA-43 | tracking via the RBM thread on wowace.com/forums |
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| 22:01.44 | laeg | does it matter where in config.wtf i put the line SET gxApi "opengl"? |
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| 22:02.40 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: ping |
| 22:02.50 | Xelopheris | Mangos + Keybinds... |
| 22:02.54 | Xelopheris | How? |
| 22:02.56 | NivFreak | ~seen zhinjio |
| 22:03.00 | purl | zhinjio is currently on #wowace (3d 14h 25m 40s) #curseforge (3d 14h 25m 40s). Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 1d 22h 49m 10s, last said: 'Hey Ackis.'. |
| 22:03.10 | Tuller | Xelopheris: /kb |
| 22:03.27 | Xelopheris | Thanks Tuller |
| 22:03.44 | Tuller | I should probably spec out the GUI nowish |
| 22:04.04 | Tuller | though I could honestly just implement bar sizing |
| 22:05.05 | Xelopheris | Bar sizing = reducing number of icons per bar? |
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| 22:06.40 | CIA-43 | 03broliant * r76499 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (4 files): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Added the Karathress macro announcement. |
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| 22:09.40 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76500 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:09.40 | CIA-43 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 22:09.40 | CIA-43 | -- Bat Bites 27636 Meat.Bonus -> Meat.Basic |
| 22:09.40 | CIA-43 | -- Hyjal Nectar 18300 |
| 22:09.40 | CIA-43 | -- Also generate files from the previous miner changes |
| 22:09.42 | Tuller | yes |
| 22:10.17 | Tuller | just a matter of turning things on |
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| 22:20.25 | CIA-43 | 03toadkiller * r76501 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:20.25 | CIA-43 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 22:20.25 | CIA-43 | -- Scourgebane Draught 22779 |
| 22:20.25 | CIA-43 | -- Scourgebane Infusion 22778 |
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| 22:28.22 | Gnarfoz | ~seen toadkiller |
| 22:28.24 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-18-176-106.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 8d 23h 12m 22s ago, saying: 'Ah kool, i will try that channel'. |
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| 22:33.01 | Avrys | I must be the only one to find fuBar's minimap icon stealing to be irritating. |
| 22:34.09 | SunTsu | Avrys: Then tell those addons to put their icons onto minimap again |
| 22:34.14 | profalbert | Avrys: I hate Minimap-icons ;) |
| 22:34.26 | Avrys | SunTsu Half of them don't have the option that I can find =/ |
| 22:34.39 | Avrys | and since CombatTimer is the only fubar plugin I want... buhbye |
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| 22:35.58 | SunTsu | Avrys: Normally they have it in the fubar menu |
| 22:36.24 | Avrys | not that I could find :( But there's other things besides that, that's just the first to mind ^_^ |
| 22:36.33 | profalbert | Avrys: the options for that are in the LibFuBarPlugin, so they must be there, sometimes they are a bit hidden |
| 22:36.43 | profalbert | like a FuBaroptions-submenu or somthing like that |
| 22:37.17 | Avrys | afaik LoggerHead doesn't even have menus |
| 22:37.51 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 22:38.36 | Avrys | The main window, but theres no minimap icon anything there >_< |
| 22:39.02 | Avrys | nor fubar anything, at least not that I can find |
| 22:40.32 | profalbert | hmm... loggerhead doesn't right |
| 22:40.57 | profalbert | One of the main reasons for me using FuBar is getting rid of this Minimap-icon-madness |
| 22:41.53 | Avrys | I like my minimap icons more than chunks of my screen disapearing. All the clutter is concentrated =/ |
| 22:42.12 | profalbert | you can resize the FuBar |
| 22:42.27 | Avrys | to be skinnier |
| 22:42.30 | Avrys | but not to not span |
| 22:42.37 | Avrys | that I found at least |
| 22:42.49 | profalbert | Avrys: like multiple rows you mean? |
| 22:42.54 | Avrys | I'm looking for more StatBlocks style |
| 22:43.01 | Avrys | little containers rather than screenwide bars |
| 22:43.18 | Avrys | but specifically I'm looking for something to replace Deadly Boss Mods' fight timer. |
| 22:43.31 | Avrys | that tells you the time elapsed for X fight after X dies |
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| 22:44.41 | mjc_ | heh my cat just squeaked at me |
| 22:44.52 | Avrys | O_o |
| 22:44.56 | Avrys | did you squeeze it? |
| 22:45.00 | profalbert | Avrys: maybe there is some other addon doing exactly the same as FuBar_CombatTimeFu. |
| 22:45.04 | Obelixprime | what's a good addon to track load up times for addons? |
| 22:45.07 | mjc_ | nah... she was like 'eep!' out of nowhere |
| 22:45.11 | profalbert | it was just the first one that came to my mind |
| 22:46.02 | mjc_ | Obelixprime: where's asterisk ;) |
| 22:46.55 | Avrys | profalbert - S'what I'm trying to find. Closest I've seen is StatBlocks_TimeInFight |
| 22:46.59 | Gnarfoz | Avrys: yes, fubars can also be resized in terms of width. |
| 22:47.04 | Gnarfoz | not just height |
| 22:47.16 | Obelixprime | mjc_: asterisk? |
| 22:47.19 | Obelixprime | oh |
| 22:47.20 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 22:47.23 | Avrys | but that one gives you the longest fight you've participated in since you log in. |
| 22:47.25 | Gnarfoz | unlock the bar, grab either end, resize |
| 22:47.31 | Obelixprime | He's a levle 1 alt gnome -.- |
| 22:47.32 | mjc_ | Obelixprime: asterisk and obelix :P |
| 22:47.39 | mjc_ | Obelixprime: shame |
| 22:47.58 | Avrys | Gnarfoz - Where? Or was I missign the plugin to do that? |
| 22:48.10 | Gnarfoz | that's Asterix btw |
| 22:48.23 | Gnarfoz | Avrys: a plugin? oO that's core fubar. |
| 22:48.28 | profalbert | Avrys: you see the cursor turning into a sword |
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| 22:48.44 | profalbert | that's the sign that you can resize the fubar |
| 22:48.54 | Gnarfoz | grrr I just logged out because I'm sleepy |
| 22:49.00 | Gnarfoz | now I'm awake again |
| 22:49.28 | profalbert | Avrys' fault? |
| 22:49.42 | Avrys | It only did that for height and not width for me O_O I must be doing it wrong |
| 22:49.59 | mjc_ | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/warcraft_sequel_lets_gamers_play |
| 22:50.45 | profalbert | Avrys: I can only do it for width, not for heigt :o |
| 22:50.59 | Avrys | weird mod is weird >_> |
| 22:50.59 | Gnarfoz | Avrys: unlock the bar, grab either END of the bar? if it's easier for you, tell it not to stick to top or bottom |
| 22:51.07 | Gnarfoz | no, you just fail ~ :P |
| 22:51.16 | Avrys | <3 you too Gnarfoz ^_^ |
| 22:51.23 | Gnarfoz | you like minimap icons, you're clearly demented! :p |
| 22:51.28 | Avrys | inorite ~ |
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| 22:51.45 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: you say what I think :P |
| 22:52.02 | Gnarfoz | and I'm thinking /sleep |
| 22:52.14 | Avrys | I got a square minimap just so I could have more minimap icons showing ^_^ |
| 22:52.15 | profalbert | again already? |
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| 22:52.25 | Gnarfoz | can't decide ;D |
| 22:52.41 | Aeyan | I got a square minimap because everything in my interface has four corner, hehe |
| 22:53.36 | Gnarfoz | I got a square minimap because round stuff doesn't fit too well into rectangular stuff :> (waste of space) |
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| 22:54.41 | Avrys | MOAR MINIMAP ICONS! :D |
| 22:54.46 | Gnarfoz | ~factinfo asktoask |
| 22:54.46 | purl | asktoask -- created by Shirik <i=nospam@24.229.63.42.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net> at Wed Jul 18 00:33:40 2007 (329 days); it has been requested 345 times, last by Gnarfoz, 23s ago. |
| 22:54.57 | Shirik | random ping ftl |
| 22:54.58 | Gnarfoz | so few? oO |
| 22:55.04 | Gnarfoz | yes, indeed Shirik |
| 22:55.17 | Shirik | fortunately I have popups so I don't have to switch back to my client to see what it said |
| 22:55.21 | Shirik | for some reason I always do anyway |
| 22:55.26 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 22:55.49 | profalbert | force of habit? |
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| 23:04.26 | Aeyan | I could have the popups back, but running WoW in maximized windowed mode gutters my frames |
| 23:04.50 | Aeyan | Well, gutters might be a little strong but it's noticable |
| 23:05.07 | profalbert | Aeyan: yeah, noticed that on my Box too |
| 23:05.35 | profalbert | Can become annoying when doing illidan with full spelldetials |
| 23:07.50 | Avrys | Strange. Maximized increases my fps O-o |
| 23:09.25 | profalbert | yeah, heard that from ppl running a XP-box with ATi-cards |
| 23:09.29 | profalbert | I run a vista-box with nvidia |
| 23:09.40 | Avrys | Ah, XP with an x1900xt ;P |
| 23:10.06 | profalbert | don't know if it's really the reason though |
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| 23:12.12 | p3lim | the function :ScheduleEvent() what lib is that from? |
| 23:12.27 | profalbert | AceEvent? |
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| 23:14.04 | Kuosi | i cant rly notice any significant changes when swapping between windowed,windowed max,full screen |
| 23:14.11 | Kuosi | xp + 1950pro |
| 23:15.43 | p3lim | and :Print() ? |
| 23:16.10 | profalbert | :Print() is AceConsole, I'm not so sure about ScheduleEvent() though |
| 23:17.40 | profalbert | :Print() is also in LibRockConsole-1.0 |
| 23:20.37 | digmouse | windowed mode clutter only happens to XP + X/X1000 series |
| 23:20.52 | digmouse | HD 2000 and 3000 is OK |
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| 23:21.14 | Avrys | digmouse What do you mean by clutter |
| 23:21.27 | profalbert | hmm... running on a mobility X800, and don't notice a difference |
| 23:21.41 | digmouse | uh gutters |
| 23:21.46 | digmouse | not clutter |
| 23:21.48 | Avrys | Mine works fine O_o |
| 23:22.09 | Avrys | Except if I have AA on and something overlays a transparency |
| 23:22.12 | Avrys | then it tanks ^_^ |
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| 23:22.18 | digmouse | poor vocabulary *run and hides* |
| 23:22.49 | digmouse | ya, transparency destroys it |
| 23:23.06 | CIA-43 | 03ellipsis * r76502 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/Cartographer_QuestObjectives.toc: Cartographer_QuestObjectives: Fixed Babble-Zone typos (CART-661). |
| 23:23.17 | Avrys | It's annoying but not as annoying as not running windowed ^_^ Two monitors ftw! |
| 23:23.37 | digmouse | Vista is OK |
| 23:26.01 | Diao | what windowed mode clutter? :O |
| 23:26.10 | Avrys | guttered framerates |
| 23:27.47 | Jygga | my irc client lags when im at the char selection screen while playing windowed |
| 23:28.26 | Jygga | its really an "fps" issue in a 2d client ^^ |
| 23:28.59 | Jygga | okay Z actually lagged too but that was last millenium |
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| 23:40.25 | CIA-43 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07testes * rfabb1bb 10/: Testes, testes, 1, 2, 3?!?! |
| 23:40.58 | Ellipsis | mmmm |
| 23:42.48 | Ellipsis | who feels like spanking a translator for bumping the toc of a broken addon? |
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| 23:49.43 | p3lim | is there any wiki on AceEvent-3.0? |
| 23:51.22 | p3lim | nvm found it |
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| 23:55.39 | p3lim | seems like :ScheduleEvent() was removed in AceEvent-3.0 |
| 23:55.40 | p3lim | :/ |
| 23:55.48 | Arrowmaster | its in acetimer |
| 23:56.03 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis, scorpio? xD |
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| 23:56.40 | p3lim | thanks Arrowmaster |
