IRC log for #wowace on 20080530

00:02.30Ackisso chatter timestamps adds code infront of the blizzard one
00:02.41Xinhuanso did that hook
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00:02.48GitHub117tourguide: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-5bf12e2
00:02.50GitHub117Rejigger the links at the end of the README
00:02.51Funkeh`DARKGuy, ... it uses ace3
00:02.52GitHub117http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/5bf12e2e21ce713f4b27c534b66bb90122c7d0d7
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00:03.03Xinhuannotice in the example above, the "return a()" <-- note the return in front
00:03.17Xinhuanit may be important to return any original return values to the function caller
00:03.22DARKGuyFunkeh`, yeah I noticed, and LibGUIDRegistry - but is that one really needed ?
00:03.39Funkeh`no, we bundle it in for fun
00:03.45DARKGuyAwesome :D
00:03.58AckisXinhuan: Yah I noticed, if I want to completely nuke the blizzard code I do a normal hook and not a secure hook, but I have to ensure I handle w/e blizz did?
00:04.21Xinhuandont' call a() at all
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00:05.15Xinhuanand otherwise reproduce as much as you can in your own code
00:05.17GitHub95tourguide: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-fe29e3c
00:05.19GitHub95Remove rouge <br>
00:05.21GitHub95http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/fe29e3c26c93fafe7f0f8e0c2834aabec456efb7
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00:05.37Xinhuanhehe rouge!
00:05.39DARKGuywtf GitHub95, stay on the damn channel ><
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00:05.46DARKGuyoh brb door xD
00:06.21Funkeh`Tekkub, yeah what's with github
00:06.22XinhuanAckis, a hook is simply replacing a function with your own, your own may or may not necessrily call the original function
00:06.38Tekkubtheir bot doesn't persist
00:07.03Xinhuanif your replacement function calls the original at the start, then its called a "post-hook" since your code runs after the original
00:07.06Xinhuanelse its a "pre-hook"
00:07.50DARKGuythat bot is lame then
00:07.58Xinhuanif your replacement function doesn't call the original function at all, then its not a hook, its ... replacing it
00:08.05AckisXinhuan: ok that makes sense... so if I copy blizzards code into a hook word for word, we won't see any difference at all
00:08.10Tekkubthat bot is only a dozen lines of code and it gets the job done
00:08.19Xinhuanyes, except that secure execution will be broken
00:08.19DARKGuyugly, but done :P
00:08.25Tekkubthe added complexity of maintaining a connection is not needed
00:08.27Xinhuanbecause your code is insecure
00:08.38Xinhuanthe execution path thus becomes "tainted"
00:08.40Ackis*nod* so I cause tainting
00:09.00Xinhuanhence blizzard introduced something called "securehook"
00:09.08DARKGuyTekkub, I'll see you say that when everyone moves to git - or when it has enough userbase to flood the channel .P
00:09.15DARKGuy*:P
00:09.31Xinhuana securehook is where you attach your function, to some blizzard function, and your function will run AFTER the blizzard one
00:09.33Xinhuani.e a post-hook
00:09.47Ackisbut won't taint then?
00:09.51TekkubI wrote a cia.vc service for github and they installed it, but it's not working and I can't get them to help me fucking fix it
00:09.52Xinhuanwhen your function completes running, secure execution status is returned to blizzard
00:09.58Tekkubso until then, suffer with their IRC one
00:10.02Xinhuanand any return values your function does is thrown away
00:10.10DARKGuyTekkub, oh, well gotta pester them ><
00:10.12Xinhuanit will use the original return values from the original call
00:10.17TekkubI have been
00:10.17Ackisok, that's making sense now
00:10.31TekkubIRC, email... I don't know what more I can do
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00:10.38Xinhuanhooking functions has 2 important things
00:10.40DARKGuyGet more people to!
00:10.41AckisTekkub: go back to svn?
00:10.48Xinhuan1. passing arguments properly 2. passing return values properly
00:10.55Tekkubsomeone kick Ackis I don't have ops
00:11.02Ackis:P
00:11.04DARKGuylol
00:11.21Xinhuanconsider the print() function, it can take multiple input values right?
00:11.29Ackisyup
00:11.30TekkubI could get the service running as a service on my own box and use the post-update hooks
00:11.39Tekkubbut... motivate me?  I don't mind the IRC bot
00:11.41Xinhuanif you look at the hook earlier, it only calls a("timestamp"..s)
00:11.48Xinhuanmeaning it only passed one argument to the original hook
00:11.56Xinhuanit didn't pass any additional ones
00:12.17Xinhuanthat is thus a bad hook
00:12.39Ackisyah I understand how it's important to pass proper values
00:12.39NeoTronI prefer "naughty hook"
00:12.59DARKGuyrofl
00:13.08Ackisthe functions I'm looking at hooking don't have any values to pass or return
00:13.24Ackiswhich will simplify things for me somewhat I guess
00:13.35Xinhuanin ace2, when you use :Hook() in acehook-2.0, the original function is stored in self.hooks[functionname]
00:13.44Xinhuanso calling it is self.hooks[functionname](...)
00:13.47DARKGuyTekkub, well not now, but when it gets enough traffic... x.x
00:13.59Killmoreit is possible to put luckycharm with a /macro or something ?
00:14.02DARKGuyI'll move to git and motivate you :D
00:14.41AckisI'll be doing it w/ AceHook-3.0
00:14.46Ackisbut it looks similar
00:15.01Xinhuanacehook-3.0 is very very different
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00:15.02Xinhuanfrom 2.0
00:15.29Xinhuan3.0's :hook() will automatically call the original function as a pre hook
00:15.36TekkubDARKGuy, the issue isn't git v svn, it's breaking people out of the "everyone in one car" mentality that's become so deeply engrained on wowace
00:15.48Xinhuanwould need :rawhook() to achieve the old replacement functionality
00:15.56Tekkubmore people should use WoWI's svns or github if they prefer git
00:16.19Ackis*nod* yah I saw the rawhook in chatters timestamp code
00:17.04Tekkubthere's no real reason for ace's monolith-svn anymore...
00:17.33DARKGuyWell it's easier to use with tortoiseSVN imho, I'm not very good with this svn/git/cvs thing :P
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00:17.52Dashkalwtb TortiseGIT
00:17.54DARKGuyand in Linux I used rapidSVN, I hate console commands :P
00:18.01DARKGuy!
00:18.04Tekkubany svn works with tort... I mean no reason for the mass that is everyone in one repo
00:18.16Tekkuband git-gui works wonderfully :P
00:18.28DARKGuyyay there's a gui
00:18.32DARKGuy... I'll stay with SVN anyways
00:18.32DARKGuyxD
00:18.37TekkubI rarely use console commands... it's about the same as when I was in svn
00:19.04DARKGuyoh... that's good :D
00:19.41DARKGuy... what I think is that it makes it harder for others to get updated versions of addons. Instead of only having SVN (or jWU/WAU in another case), you need to have GIT too, for just a few addons
00:20.18Dashkalerm?  If you want an updated version of my addon, check for beta releases on sites
00:20.25DashkalIf you want to actually _hack_ on it, then go get git
00:20.30Tekkubwhat Dashkal said
00:20.38Tekkubput out betas once a week
00:20.41Dashkalnods
00:20.42Tekkubproblem solved
00:21.01DARKGuymh, I don't like to complicate my life. One-click addon updating ftw.
00:21.05Vonhintenyeah, that's brilliant.  Cause I mean, currently, I can click one button to update my shit, except this one goddamn addon called Quecho...
00:21.05DashkalDevelopers shouldn't be so lazy and assume everybody who uses it will sync to trunk (which is exactly what WAU/Wowace does)
00:21.14Vonhintenbig pain in my ass cause I have to pull it from somewhere entirely different
00:21.19DashkalJWU :p
00:21.25DashkalOne click updating including non-wowace
00:21.29Tekkubpeople shouldn't be in your repo unless they are contributing or you specifically direct them to an alpha to test something
00:21.36DARKGuyDashkal, are your addons on wowace? :P
00:21.40Kalman|Dashkal: Not quite as easy, though.
00:21.46DashkalO.o
00:21.47DARKGuyer, I mean, wowinterface/others ?
00:21.52DashkalBig button "Update Addons"
00:21.54Dashkalclick and done
00:21.59Kalman|The setup.
00:22.00DARKGuyyeah, that's my point
00:22.06Kalman|Once it's set up sure.
00:22.20Kalman|WAU does very much win in the setup field, since there really isn't any.
00:22.29Dashkal*shrugs*
00:22.35TekkubVonhinten, and how often is Quecho updated and you need to pull it in...
00:22.40DashkalI won't be available on wowace except for full releases
00:22.40DARKGuyI just configure it, click 3 checkboxes and forget the config button :D
00:22.48DashkalIf you want betas, either use another tool or use git
00:22.57Tekkuboh yes... once in the past YEAR
00:23.04DARKGuyGetting the bleeding-edge stuff is such a pain :(
00:23.09VonhintenNo idea, but I can't tell without looking
00:23.33Tekkubwowi has favs, gcode downloads has rss
00:23.46Dashkalheh, if you're updating directly from my master branch, you deserve the alpha quality code you're getting :p
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00:24.53DARKGuyI'd need to get git still :P
00:25.01Dashkalno
00:25.07DARKGuyoh? :O
00:25.19Tekkubgithub does tarballs
00:25.20DashkalI use curseforge.  Just nab the alpha from there (not curse.com itself, only betas will show there)
00:25.41DARKGuyoh cool :D
00:25.47Tekkubhttp://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/tarball/master
00:25.47DashkalBut meh, stick to releases.  I don't ever promise an alpha will work :p
00:26.08DARKGuyWell they aren't intended to work 100%
00:26.14DARKGuy... but I like the bleeding edge stuff :D
00:26.50DARKGuyTekkub, sweet
00:27.06DARKGuy... now somebody has to add github and curseforge support to jWU and my life will be complete :D
00:27.31Tekkubyou can't give your updater a specific URL to pull? that's sad
00:27.44DashkalI'm hoping JWU gets curseforge :p  I won't use WAU or the curse client cause I refuse to run a closed source updater :p
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00:27.52Arrowmasterdoes JWU do curse?
00:27.56Dashkalit does
00:27.59DARKGuyDashkal, me too :P
00:28.08DARKGuyTekkub, no :(
00:28.11Arrowmasterthen whats wrong with it
00:28.28Dashkalcurseforge includes alphas, which would help my testing
00:28.29aestilcan i make pitbull show raidframes when in a party?
00:28.34Vonhintenthe big addon sites all use an ID in their URL, so the current interface has you plug in that ID, and specific the site
00:28.35Dashkalcurse.com is perfect as a user
00:28.38Vonhintenno URL field
00:28.38aestilif i join a part with grid, i can see my party in grid.
00:28.44aestilwill pitbull behave the same way?
00:28.49dylanm_curse... perfect...
00:30.13DashkalNot what I meant, dylanm_ :p
00:30.41Dashkalsomeone take them up on their .net job offer :p  wtb curse.com v2 sooner
00:35.28Vonhintenwhat .net job offer?
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00:35.59Funkeh`Dashkal, more like v5
00:36.05Dashkalheh
00:36.16Dashkalwhatever, just fix that stupid cache can't expire bug
00:37.11CIA-4203apoco * r75505 10RBM/Core.lua: RBM: Range/Health Frame rewrites.
00:41.24CIA-4203feithar * r75506 10FBagOfHolding/ (4 files):
00:41.24CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
00:41.24CIA-42- Fixed bug that was preventing items from being updated properly. Added "Last Moved" filter that can filter based on when an item was last touched.
00:41.28CIA-4203feithar * r75507 10FBoH_ItemRack/FBoH_ItemRack.lua:
00:41.28CIA-42FBoH_ItemRack:
00:41.28CIA-42- Updated documentation to include "lastUpdate" item property.
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00:45.59GitHub83tourguide: 3Steffen Dietz 7master0 SHA1-0b6542b
00:46.01GitHub83Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/tekkub/tourguide
00:46.03GitHub83http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/0b6542bd65194fc8d3773a8d3bda8c2fdb45cb12
00:46.05GitHub83tourguide: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-bc48c60
00:46.07GitHub83Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/chestbreaker/tourguide.git
00:46.09GitHub83http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/bc48c60e19e9853e4558b741e309fe75e2570359
00:46.11GitHub83tourguide: 3Steffen Dietz 7master0 SHA1-3eb367b
00:46.13GitHub83Closed missing coord bracket
00:46.15GitHub83http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/3eb367baa0b5dd2bd6efff737e81233b79fcea92
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00:48.14CIA-4203starlon * r75508 10StarTip/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
00:48.14CIA-42StarTip:
00:48.14CIA-42- Rename Location.lua
00:48.14CIA-42- Start adding options
00:48.14CIA-42- Bug fixes
00:56.24CIA-4203vithos * r75509 10Quartz/Swing/Swing.lua:
00:56.24CIA-42Quartz:
00:56.24CIA-42- Aimed Shot will now reset/start the Auto Shot swing timer
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01:09.27Xinhuanpro-tip: it takes 11 minutes 50 seconds to fly from isle of sunwell to ironforge (plus minus a few seconds to loading screen)
01:09.59Xinhuanpro-tip2: it costs less silver to teleport to ironforge (8 silver reagent) than to fly
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01:10.30Trell_pro-tip3: it costs nothing to use the scroll you get from the daily.
01:10.59Xinhuani was corpse camped at the flightmaster ~_~
01:11.04Xinhuanso i rezzed and flew off
01:12.53Silverstormcombat log question.  if I'm trying to capture all damage done by raid members, do I just check for COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_RAID?  or do I need to check the _PARTY and _MINE variants also?
01:13.38Xinhuanall 3
01:13.52Xinhuanthey are exclusive
01:14.00Silverstormthought so, just wanted to check
01:14.01Silverstormthanks
01:14.34Xinhuanhowever, you can bit.bor() those 3 together into a snigle mask
01:14.38Xinhuansingle*
01:14.44Xinhuanand then use that mask with bit.band()
01:14.50Xinhuanto see if any matches
01:14.58Xinhuanjust check the result > 0
01:15.00Silverstormright, and do band(srcFlags, bor(mine, party, raid)) != 0
01:15.01buuXinhuan: Hi! Is assassement in a happy and content state these days?
01:15.11Xinhuani have nothing to do with assessment
01:15.15buuI know.
01:15.22buuBut I was hoping your knowledge extended to such matters.
01:15.40Xinhuani don't know ;p
01:16.00Xinhuanupvalue bor(mine, party, raid)
01:16.04buuHow do I find the assessment thread?
01:16.04Xinhuanand you'll have a fast code
01:16.09Xinhuangoogle
01:16.15buuhaha
01:16.21Xinhuanwith keywords like "assessment wow addon wowace"
01:16.21ArrowmasterSilverstorm: you want to do the bor'ing ahead of time and then just do band(srcFlags, upvalue) > 0
01:16.29buuOh wait you were serious
01:16.31SilverstormArrowmaster: of course :)
01:16.46Silverstormjust faster to type it that way for IRC
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01:31.37CIA-4203sayclub * r75510 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua:
01:31.37CIA-42Parrot :
01:31.37CIA-42- fixed Soul shard gains
01:37.06ArrowmasterAckis: is this AltTabber suppost to make sound when the game is focused?
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01:41.33aestilso can i have pitbull raid frames show for a 5 man party?
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01:49.15ArrowmasterAckis!
01:50.43CIA-4203cwdg 07ag_Options * r75511 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
01:50.43CIA-42ag_Options:
01:50.43CIA-42-add zhCN locale
01:51.31copystringhm its in general a good idea to start creating an addon directly in ace? or should i start without ace first?
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02:12.42Brunersaestil: just make the partyframes look the same as the raid frames?
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02:20.06CIA-4203sayclub * r75512 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
02:20.06CIA-42AutoBar :
02:20.06CIA-42- koKR Update
02:21.21CIA-4203cwdg * r75513 10BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.lua:
02:21.21CIA-42BigWigs_KalecgosHealth:
02:21.21CIA-42- UnitIsHostile not a wow api, now i use UnitIsEnemy check kalecgos.
02:21.21CIA-42- fix 'BigWigs_SendSync', now bigwigs use self:Sync
02:22.42Arrowmasterwhy the fuck would that use UnitIsEnemy?
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02:23.07Dark_Elflol
02:23.43Arrowmasterwhen you get ported the hostile kalec becomes friendly so thats bound to cause an error at some point
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02:31.01Xinhuandoesn't really matter
02:31.14Xinhuani think?
02:34.50vithoshmm.. is it being used to tell the difference between human and dragon?
02:35.10CIA-4203starlon * r75514 10StarTip/Modules/ (Bars.lua Position.lua Text.lua): StarTip: More options
02:36.20vithosyeah looks like it is.  that could be a problem
02:37.14Xinhuanwell ask ackis about it, he drycoded the whole thing
02:37.21Xinhuancwdg merely fixed an api call
02:37.37Xinhuani.e fixing ackis's drycode
02:39.12vithosi guess both forms are classified as dragonkin, so you'd need to check for the spectral realm debuff?
02:40.24Xinhuanhint: UnitGUID()
02:40.52vithosor that.
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02:47.14CIA-4203kunda * r75515 10IQ/ (. IQ.lua IQ.toc):
02:47.14CIA-42IQ: initial commit
02:47.14CIA-42Shows ItemLevel Quotient in the Character and Inspect Frame. YES! It's useless!
02:47.14CIA-42It's just a number! skill>equip!
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02:50.57Apocoany US guild with Muru down need a huntard?
02:51.04ApocoPvP server
02:51.38Xinhuan"with muru down" probably narrows it down to less than 20 guilds
02:51.57Apocoactually
02:51.58Apoco5
02:52.03Apocobecause I'm horde
02:52.07Apocolol
02:52.20Xinhuanso you admit you just asked a rhetorical question? :D
02:52.23ApocoI figure its worth a shit you know Xinhuan
02:52.26Apocoshot*
02:52.29Xinhuanlol
02:52.30Brunersand the odds for one of those 5 being online on this channel
02:52.46Apocowell
02:52.52ApocoI'm here and I'm in top 25
02:52.52Apoco~_~
02:52.53purl:/
02:53.37Xinhuanu could join mine! just killed brutallus!
02:53.45Xinhuanand we only have 1 active hunter
02:54.16Apocowhat server?
02:54.20Xinhuanblackrock
02:54.23Apocooh really?
02:54.30StanzillaXinhuan is a tiny gnome!
02:54.31Xinhuan(alliance)
02:54.33ApocoBLEH
02:54.42ApocoI'm transfering to blackrock if I dont find a guild anyways
02:54.44Apocoto pvp with Nurfed
02:54.51Xinhuanmy guild is the 14th on server to kill brut
02:54.57Xinhuan15 has killed him so far
02:55.07Apocoyeah
02:55.15ApocoI watch the progression there like its a religion
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02:55.31Dark_Elfgonna make horde on blackrock :p
02:55.40Xinhuantime to corpse camp you
02:55.50Apocoshit have fun
02:55.51Apocotrying
02:56.59BrunersApoco: why do you want to change guild if your top 25?
02:57.13Xinhuaneveryone yesterday is like "wow has nurfed killed KJ", because of that island wide buff
02:57.25Xinhuanand it meant i don't have to buff anyone
02:57.29Xinhuanpretty neat
02:57.41Apocolol
02:57.48mykxthings didnt work out with simple math apoco ? :P
02:58.07ApocoSM is great
02:58.11Apocojust drama
02:58.27ApocoI dont plan on leaving
02:58.38Apocoit was a rhetorical question
02:58.38mykxyeah I know how that is, we're working on muru right now and kids cant stop bitching at each other
02:58.40Ackiswho's cwdg?
02:58.51Xinhuana zhCN translator
02:59.09Ackisahh he fixed up bigwigs kalecgoshealth, just wanted to see what was wrong with it
02:59.11Xinhuanalso helps out at cosmos
02:59.25Apocomykx: its more about its one kid that doesnt understand the mechanics of anyones class but his own
02:59.32Apocoand yells 24/7 about stupid shit
02:59.35Xinhuanyour UnitIsEnemy method is fucked if you're comparing unit names
02:59.50Xinhuani suggest you ditch it and change to UnitGUID()
02:59.53Xinhuanand extract the mob ID out
03:00.06Xinhuanbecause kalecgos and the corruptor switch hostile/friendly flags
03:00.13Xinhuanwhen you port in/out of the demon/living realm
03:00.23Apocowe spent 3 weeks without even attempting muru
03:00.35Apocoand are now dealing with the same problems we had before and its their idea that the strat is fine
03:02.28Ackisthat sounds like effort =/
03:02.52Apocoyar
03:03.05Apocothey keep throwing more dps on the adds
03:03.07Apocowhich is great
03:03.31Apocobut they dont look at the big picture that with those dps on the adds, Muru isnt taking any damage, which means we'll be in an endless loop of adds and never getting to phase2
03:04.02mykxwe're having 4 dps on both sides of the adds
03:04.06mykxand warlocks on sentinels
03:04.17Apocowe have locks on sentinels, 5 dps on each side
03:04.22Apocoand still failing hardcore
03:04.40vithosApoco: somehow become alliance please.  need a 3rd hunter for my agi group :(  though we're still working on m'uru
03:04.51ApocoI have an alli huntard
03:04.55Apoco5/5 t5
03:04.58Apoco2p t6
03:05.19Apocodoesnt have a pheonix mount though :(
03:05.33vithoshaha, you bastard, you have that?
03:05.44mykxapoco, we decided to leave 1 warlock and spriests/ele shammy on muru and so far our best is like 30%
03:06.30CIA-4203feithar * r75516 10FBagOfHolding/ (FItemDB.lua Locale-enUS.lua StandardFilters.lua):
03:06.30CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
03:06.30CIA-42- Added additional options to the "last moved" filter. Added code to automatically add the current time to any item that doesn't already have a timestamp when the addon is initialized.
03:06.40vithospretty sure you need to work your humanoid groups down to 4dps per side, though we've only really had one night of learning so far, but we were keeping up with the adds pretty well
03:06.59mykxyeah 4 per side is the goal
03:07.01Apocoour best is 2 groups of adds
03:07.06Apocomaybe 3
03:07.17Apocothis is like our 5th night
03:07.19vithosmelee group and hunter group works well imo
03:07.22mykxwe have like a caster group and a melee group
03:07.28mykxyeah well casters/hunters
03:07.37ApocoI'm the only hunter thats worth a shit here
03:07.49vithosyeah i mean you'll have to tune it for what your guild has
03:08.28mykxmages are fine on the adds
03:08.51CIA-4203starlon * r75517 10StarTip/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): StarTip: Externals
03:09.11vithosthey are, but multishot = +200 dps per hunter for 3 targets i'd estimate
03:09.52vithosalso if you're sheeping humanoids it's just going to slow you down too much probably
03:09.52mykxwe were sheeping 1 and having 2 tanked killing the mage first then zerkers
03:10.09ApocoStarTip?
03:10.09vithosah, well maybe it's just us then
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03:10.24mykxI mean it all depends on your guild i'm sure
03:10.30vithosi (BM hunter) tank the mage add which dies first
03:10.46mykxwtf? doesnt it 1 shot you
03:10.46vithoswe were sheeping at first but when we stopped it helped
03:10.48dylanm_Apoco: It's like a hardcoded, standalone CowTip layout from what I can tell.
03:10.50vithosnope
03:10.51CIA-4203feithar * r75518 10FBagOfHolding/Locale-enUS.lua:
03:10.52CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
03:10.52CIA-42- Forgot to update the locale file before the last commit.
03:11.17Arrowmasteri think my guild leaders are close to quiting wow due to stupid players, servers full of retards and its impossible to find any decent recruits
03:11.18vithosi don't even put on stam gear/mail
03:11.27vithoswell mail obv doesn't matter
03:11.45vithosjust make sure nobody counterspells it
03:11.54ApocoArrowmaster; what server/progression?
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03:12.05Arrowmasterburninglegion
03:12.18Apocooh thats right
03:12.19Apocofail legion
03:12.21Arrowmasteryeah
03:12.23Apocofuck that server
03:12.29Silverstorm_at least you guys have people killing most of Sunwell...we have 2 Alliance guilds with Kalecgos down, and no Horde with any Sunwell kills
03:12.38Apocolol thats sad Silowyi
03:12.41mykxhaha my friend is on that server, says its full of bad kids
03:12.41ApocoSilverstorm_*
03:12.50ApocoBurning Legion is fail
03:12.51ApocoBAD
03:12.57mykxthats what I hear
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03:13.10BrunersApoco: how much arp do you have?
03:13.10Silverstorm_worse than Azjol-Nerub (my server)?
03:13.34Arrowmasterno our top guild thats killing most of sunwell, and ranked like 61st or something in the us is full of assholes
03:13.44Vonhintenchrist, first attempt on Azgalor, fucking rocked our tank before healers knew what hit them
03:13.48ApocoOg is horrible
03:13.51ApocoI refuse to join them
03:13.58Apocothey keep trying to get me to transfer back and it wont happen
03:14.05Apoco2770 Bruners
03:14.18mykxhaha Vonhinten: azgalor does indeed hit hard
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03:14.21CIA-42AckisRecipeList:
03:14.21CIA-42- Update embeds.xml
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03:14.28Apoco2792* raid buffed
03:14.29ApocoBM
03:14.34BrunersApoco: armor penetration, not RAP :P
03:14.42Apoco1113
03:14.43Apocosorry
03:15.01CIA-4203starlon * r75520 10StarTip/embeds.xml: StarTip: Oops. Include=xml, Script=lua... gotcha
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03:15.19mykxI was on andorlol back when blacklisted still was apoco but xfered off a while ago
03:15.43Arrowmasterwe are doing BT with 0 pallys right now
03:16.42mykxsounds fun for your dps
03:16.52ApocoArrowmaster: What guild? I forget
03:16.54Vonhintenthat sounds like a bad day
03:16.59ApocoYou have Piempster now don't you?
03:17.04Arrowmasteryeah we do
03:17.07ApocoI pity uou
03:17.09Apocoyou*
03:17.12Arrowmasterwhy?
03:17.13Apocohe is the reason aX failed
03:17.23Apocoand eventually broke up
03:17.32Arrowmasterreally?
03:17.34Apocoyes
03:17.52Apocohe yelled so much and because of his girlfriend being one of our main healers we couldnt kick him
03:17.56Apocoand he ran off like 10 new recruits
03:18.03Apocoand made people stop wanting to raid
03:18.08Arrowmastero0
03:18.13Arrowmasterhe hasnt talked at all yet
03:18.20Silverstorm_we need someone to slap a few of our raiders
03:18.21Apocobe greatful
03:18.33Apocowhat class are you arrow?
03:18.36Arrowmasterwarlock
03:18.40Apocobleh
03:18.42Silverstorm_I think we're too casual for Brutallus :-p
03:18.51Apocobrutallus is soooo easy
03:19.00QuantumDeltaeasy yes
03:19.11QuantumDeltabut consumable consuming and gear requiring ;D
03:19.13Apocoits just tank-n-swaptank-n-spank
03:19.21Apocowe dont even use consumables anymore
03:19.27Silverstorm_Apoco...yes, but our healers can't keep a tank alive
03:19.38Apoco:(
03:19.44QuantumDeltahmm :\
03:19.48Silverstorm_8 healers...can't heal tanks, and we have issues with burn
03:19.53QuantumDeltagear issue?
03:20.10Silverstorm_no, we have most of the raid in 4t6
03:20.21QuantumDelta:<
03:20.43Silverstorm_not to mention, I don't think we've cracked 25k RDPS yet
03:20.43Apocohow cant they keep the tanks alive?
03:21.00Silverstorm_um...fail at staggering heals?
03:21.05BrunersApoco: Crossbow of Relentless Strikes or Bristleblitz Striker / unhasted
03:21.12ApocoBristle
03:21.15Apocoeasy
03:21.19Silverstorm_maybe we dont have enough healing on each tank...I'm a warlock, it's an easy fight
03:21.48Apocoerr
03:21.55ApocoBruners: the badge bow if you cant get twins bow
03:22.00Apocoover any t6 raid bow
03:22.41Brunerstwins bow is the golden something ?
03:23.06ApocoGolden Bow of Quel Thas
03:23.09mykxSilverstorm_: worry about hitting enrage before you worry about your raid dps :)
03:23.28Silverstorm_definitely
03:23.33BrunersApoco: that is better even without any static haste?
03:23.44Silverstorm_how much should healers really need the shadow priests?
03:24.00ApocoBruners: it depends how much static haste you have, but if you have 0 then yes the badge bow is best
03:24.04Apocounless you can get twins bow
03:24.11Apocoor have the sunwell trash polearm
03:24.17mykxlearning it sure but dont do neglect your mages/locks a shadow priest
03:24.31LukianBruners, just use cheeky's spreedsheet and stop asking us :P
03:24.34vithoseh, for 1:1 sure.  but 3:2 or 1:1.x i wouldn't say so
03:24.36mykxhow many do you have?
03:24.58Silverstorm_2 right now, 3rd one just got deployed to Iraq
03:25.11mykxyeah give 1 to your healers and 1 to dps I'm thinking
03:25.18ApocoLukian: Cheeky's spreadsheet is broken right now
03:25.30Apocoand it doesnt account total haste + lag + bow speed
03:25.52Apocoif you go under a 2.1/2.0 speed being BM its bad because of the haste proc from DST and aoth
03:25.56Silverstorm_well, we generally have 2 resto shaman, 3 holy priest, 2 holy pally, 1 resto druid.  3-4 locks 3-4 mages, ele shaman, and the standard melee group, plus 2 tanks
03:26.03BrunersLukian: its still theory, always good to have input from someone with experience
03:26.23LukianBruners, it's good theory though
03:26.36Lukianbecause you are asking us without telling us your spec or shot rotation
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03:26.47ApocoI use cheekys sheet sometimes just for generalization
03:26.51Apocobut I made my own spreadsheet for myself
03:26.54Apocofor how I play
03:27.49mykxSilverstorm_: dunno how geared your locks are but honestly you dont need 4 mages, locks are better dps :P
03:28.02Apocomages are crap
03:28.11Apocounless they are nurfed mages and then they are fucking amazing
03:28.23ApocoNurfed Mage's to equal> my dps which is amazing
03:28.25CIA-4203nikkodemus * r75521 10BuffEnough/ (BuffEnough.lua Spells.lua):
03:28.25CIA-42BuffEnough:
03:28.25CIA-42- Fix bug where sometimes elixirs weren't being found
03:28.25CIA-42- Add a quick hack to account for K'iru's Song of Victory (will still tell you you're missing fort if you don't have access to an imp fort buff)
03:28.28ApocoI usually hit 2.5k on brutallis atleast
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03:28.31Apocowithout bloodlusts
03:28.36Apocothey hit that without them
03:29.04ApocoI have no clue how ~_~
03:29.07Silverstorm_well...right now, I'm more interested in keeping the tanks and burns alive than who is good dps....
03:29.13mykxwell I'm not saying don't bring any, just bring 1 for buffing your warlocks with AI
03:29.15Yssarilwhats the recomended way to rename something on the svn? deleteit and reupload under a new name or rename via the repo browser and delete all the contense and then reupload into that renamed folder?
03:30.25BrunersApoco: what rotation do you use on brutallus ?
03:32.13Apoco3:2
03:32.25ApocoYssaril: I'd delete/reup personally.
03:32.33Apocobut I imagine there is a way to rename
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03:33.01CIA-4203yssaril * r75522 10/trunk/ (AceGUI3-LSM3Widgets/ LibSharedMedia-3.0_SupportWidgets/): Renamed remotely
03:33.15ApocoI use a custom rotation for vashj adds, but beyond that single target dps is usually best with 3/2
03:33.19Yssarilsweet that actually worked :)
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03:36.42vithosApoco: do you manually weave shots?
03:37.40Apocoh
03:37.45Apocoeh* it depends on my mood
03:37.46Apocosometimes
03:37.50Apocousually on brutallus
03:37.52vithosi have a terrible time with the spam macro, it's never really 3:2
03:38.03ApocoI use it a lot
03:38.05Apocoand tend to get 3:2
03:38.06Apocoish
03:38.28vithosi always see it doing 2:1 or even rarely 3:1
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03:38.46vithosso i use 1:1.x instead for almost everything
03:38.47BrunersApoco: fancy showing your 3:2 macro ?
03:39.04Apoco#showtooltip Steady Shot
03:39.06Apocobleh
03:39.06Apoco#showtooltip Steady Shot
03:39.07ApocoWTF
03:39.31vithosyour irc client is trying to execute the /cast :P
03:39.32Apoco#showtooltip Steady Shot
03:39.37Apocooh yeah
03:39.39CIA-4203yssaril * r75523 10AceGUI3-LSM3Widgets/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
03:39.39CIA-42AceGUI3-LSM3Widgets:
03:39.39CIA-42- renamed to AceGUI3-LSM3Widgets
03:39.39CIA-42- fixed background widget (texture will now display to its right on mouse over)
03:39.39CIA-42- improved borderwidget (border will now display to its right on mouse over)
03:39.58Apoco#showtooltip Steady Shot
03:39.58Apoco./cast !Auto Shot
03:39.58Apoco./cast Steady Shot
03:39.58Apoco./cast [target=pettarget,exists] Lightning Breath
03:39.58Apoco./castrandom [target=pettarget,exists] Kill Command
03:40.01Apocothere we go
03:40.25Apocovithos: thx :)
03:41.11ApocoLSM3_Widgets?
03:41.12Apocowtf?
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03:42.09CIA-4203yssaril * r75524 10AceGUI3-LSM3Widgets/AceGUI3-LSM3Widgets.toc:
03:42.09CIA-42AceGUI3-LSM3Widgets:
03:42.09CIA-42- fixed addon name in toc
03:42.23mykxdo most hunters use a macro for that shit? I kinda find manually doing things easier :\
03:43.53Apocowell
03:43.57Apocoits easier to macro it
03:44.04Apocobut I'm a lazy ass most of the time and macro
03:44.20Apocoon pure dps fights like muru and brutallus I manual weave
03:44.40mykxyeah surely your timings would be better watching your lag bar or w/e on quartz
03:44.49Apoconot really
03:45.06Apocowith the change to casting quartz isnt really necessary
03:45.10ApocoI only have it installed for looks
03:45.30mykxI use it for the looks to but I do find that sometimes when I hit the key before it's in the red it still casts fine
03:45.33Apocoeven if my steadyshot starts 50% through an autoshot it still doesnt clip
03:45.59Apocowithout any haste procs I'm @ 2.04 w/ 3.0 speed bow
03:46.16mykxdont understand hunter ;p
03:46.31ApocoI've been playing this class since release
03:46.36ApocoI know my class :p
03:46.51ApocoI usually have a 35-50 ms ping while raiding, so the lag isnt really an issue for me
03:47.03Apocoso using a macro doesnt really hurt me, but for people with a 150+ ping it would be
03:47.38p3limonce i understood the hunter... that was before the talent revamp back in 2005 or something
03:47.47vithosi play with 76ms, but i use the macros, my computer's 2 years old so my fps sucks :/
03:47.48Neya... I'm playing with 160+ in latency, happy I'm not playing hunter anymore since the expansion.
03:48.27vithostbh i'd rather not use the macros but manually requires such precise timing and so much attention
03:48.27Apocoyeah, my fps during hyjal trash is 50-90 so yeah, fps isnt an issue either :(
03:48.28p3limlatency is important for hunters? :p
03:48.56Apocop3lim: very important for BM hunters
03:48.58vithosp3lim: probably more than any other class, cause the precasting netcode changes don't totally work for us
03:49.08p3limlol :p
03:49.11Apocoyep
03:49.17Apocoits fucked us up in so many ways it sucks
03:49.20p3limi have a hunter
03:49.22Apocobut it also helps in some cases (like mine)
03:49.24p3limi dont give a damn
03:49.38p3limi got quartz swingtimers tho
03:50.01p3limi start steady shot at the last few seconds of auto shoot
03:50.11Apocowhy so late?
03:50.21p3limdunno, seems to work for me
03:50.44vithosyou need to start asap after an autoshot goes off so you don't push the next auto back
03:50.59p3limwell i have a quick bow :/
03:51.02vithosor really, slightly before it goes off
03:51.08Arrowmasterwhen my isp is sucking and ive got a 1000ms ping, the precasting netcode makes for some weird things on short spellcasts, like the spell is finished before the gcd starts
03:51.16Arrowmastergets confusing at times
03:51.43vithosheh yeah, i sometimes see a 0.9 steady finish before the 1.5 GCD is done
03:51.45p3limwho plays at 1000ms? :p
03:51.48Neyathat can give some very interesting results sometimes, I've doublemangled in bearform due to it once.
03:51.56Arrowmasteri do when my isp is fucked up
03:52.00p3limow :<
03:52.09Arrowmastercable and ive hit 1000ms a few times the past couple weeks
03:52.16p3limi had issues with my isp for like a half year
03:52.20ApocoI can typically get a steady/arcane off between each autoshot
03:52.33Apocowithout clipping
03:52.34p3limvisited the local manager and punched him in the face, havent had a problem since
03:52.44Arrowmasterlol
03:52.56Apocoand since they changed aimed shot to affect haste and not clip, you can actually get aimed in there without clipping if you do it properly
03:52.59Neyayou want to give your dps something interesting, let the tank play with 500+ latency. Kinda amusing when the dps die before the tank see that the mob have been pulled.
03:53.01Arrowmasteri would need to drive an hour away to the hop that keeps lagging out
03:53.41p3limthe guy controlling the net in my nabourhood lives down the street
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03:55.27Apoconabourhood?
03:55.30Apocowhats that?
03:56.08BrunersApoco: how much better is a windserpent compared to a ravager? and how do a WS affect a shaman ?
03:56.22Apocoit makes them mad
03:56.24Apocowhich makes me happy
03:56.35Brunerswe have both elemental and ench shamans
03:56.43LukianBruners, marginally
03:57.51Apocofirst off, elemental shamans in t6 content is fail
03:57.51Apocoimo
03:58.02Apocotheir DPS is minimal and their utility is less than a resto shaman
03:58.06Apocoto buffing other dps
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04:00.07Brunersour elemental shaman is doing quite good
04:00.32Apocobut I find wind serpent does a lot more dmg than ravager
04:01.19Silverstorm_Apoco, on Brut, would you say that a screehing pet is worth it while learning so CoR doesn't make things worse?
04:01.26mykxyessss
04:01.39mykxthat's what we did, worked nicely for us :)
04:01.40vithosplus you can shovel mage food into the windserpent so it doesn't go sad during a pull :)
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04:02.13ApocoSilverstorm_: CoR + Imp Demo Shout = 0 change in dmg given
04:02.31Diaohow is ele sham less beneficial to dps than resto o_O
04:02.37Diaofor buffs i mean
04:02.39Silverstorm_yeah, guess I need to smack the warrior to get that
04:02.46Apocobecause their totem in t6 gear is crap
04:02.56Apocobecause the hit rating is the best about it and if your casters arent hit capped they suck
04:02.59Diaoand the resto?
04:03.08Diaowhat exactly do they provide :p
04:03.14Apocothe resto totem gives just as much dmg with their + healing totem
04:03.18Apoco+ heals
04:03.47Diaomm
04:03.55Diaoi still think even without the hit totem, 3% crit is not bad
04:04.01Diaohit portion*
04:04.33Apocoget a boomkin instead
04:04.38DaIRC1761get both
04:04.46Diaolol
04:04.51Xinhuandon't forget a elemental shaman still has heroism
04:04.53Apocoboomkin = insect swarm & 5% spell crit
04:05.01Xinhuanwhich is helpful under 20% over a boomkin
04:05.04Diaoso basically
04:05.08Diaohave a resto druid respec boomkin
04:05.11Diaoand have your ele sham go resto?
04:05.13Diaolol
04:05.13mykxdude no joke I did more dps with 2 BM hunters in my group than with a boomkin
04:05.16ApocoXinhuan: yes but their damage is very subpar comapred compared to other dps classes that could take that spot
04:05.30ApocoThere is a reason that most top 25 guilds have 0 ele shamans
04:05.43Apocothe boost they give to the raid isnt warrented for the dps slot being taken up
04:05.48Apocoso they go resto and take a priest/pally spot
04:06.00Diaoso basically
04:06.09Diaoall those sunwell guilds that bring 5 shaman for each raid group
04:06.12Diaoare all resto?
04:06.18Apoco1/2 are enhancement
04:06.21Apocobut the rest are resto yes
04:06.29Diaowhy would you bring 2 enh o_O
04:06.35Diaoisn't there usually only 1 melee group
04:06.41Silverstorm_depends
04:06.45Apocodepends on the fight
04:06.50mykxnot every guild, ours uses an ele shammy and we're not entirely terrible(4/6 SW)
04:06.51Apocobut enh shaman also help tanks a lot along with hunters
04:07.40Brunershow do ench shamans help hunters?
04:07.46Diaoimp goa i assume
04:07.47Apocoimp goa
04:07.49mykxgrace of air, you kidding me lol
04:07.50Apocosoe for pets
04:07.52Diaowhich isn't all that great
04:07.54Diaobut still
04:08.04Apocoimp goa is very nice
04:08.09Apocoas is SoE for bm pets
04:08.15vithosand UF for pets!
04:08.28vithoser, unleashed rage?
04:08.33vithosi forget what it's called
04:08.34ApocoUnleashed Rage
04:08.35Apocobut yes
04:08.46Apocobut since hunters usually get thrown into the tank group
04:08.57Brunersour ench shaman only does WF for the tank
04:08.57Apocowe are getting Imp-GoA, WF, SoE, and Mana Spring
04:09.05Apocowhich is very helpful for hunters
04:09.20Diaohm
04:09.29mykxyeah no doubt i almost lose to hunters when they are in the enh shammy group
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04:09.31mykx*almost*
04:09.39Diaoi usually have lock/fdru/pld/2xprot warr in tank group
04:09.48Apocomykx: you would loose to me :p
04:09.56vithosi try to get resto shaman + feral tank + 2 BM hunters, but usually can't get it because that last spot is empty
04:10.21vithosso a warrior tank gets thrown in and he's all "WF please!"
04:10.22mykxApoco: equally stacked groups ? I dunno about that :)
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04:10.34Apocomykx: what class?
04:10.38mykxwarlock
04:10.45Apocoput me in a tank group
04:10.54Apoco2 prot wars, ret pally and resto druid
04:10.56Apocoand I'll beat you
04:10.58elite3vil>.>
04:11.01Apocogiving you 2 bloodlusts and me 0
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04:11.18elite3vilAnyone know of a mod that'll check a boss for debuffs, and scream at people if JoW isn't up?
04:11.20mykxI think you have been smoking the crack rock my friend, unless your locks aren't very good at spamming shadow bolt lol
04:11.33ApocoOur locks pull 2200+ dps
04:11.36ApocoI pull 2300-2500
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04:12.00mykxI do 2300+ but if you take threat out(muru p1) I can do a LOT more :P
04:12.19Apocolocks can SOMEtimes beat me
04:12.21Apocobut rarely
04:12.29Apocowhen i'm actually weaving properly and using pots
04:12.35ApocoI get lazy a lot and dont use any consumables
04:12.50Brunerswhat is the respawn timer on dr boom ?
04:13.00Apocolike 15-30sec?
04:13.33Brunerstwo minutes now, still not back
04:13.45Apocobleh
04:13.54Apocoi havent been to doom since t5 gear
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04:15.17Silverstorm_I took my lock up to boom couple weeks ago, ~1200 dps with only my buffs and affliction in 3t6 and change, finally got 4t6 last week
04:16.21mykxdude, screw affliction
04:16.25mykxno place in t6 content, imo :)
04:16.43mykxyou can go destro with 3pc and still do much better
04:16.46Silverstorm_I know...but even with affliction, our tanks can't survive Brutallus, and I'm just getting to the point of destro > aff with gear
04:16.57Diaobasically personal dps > raid buffs for every spec in t6 content?
04:17.01Diaoer every class
04:17.25mykxwell lets see aff lock doing 1500 compared to a destro lock doing 2200-2500 I'm thinking yeah diao lol
04:17.50Diaohmm
04:17.56Silverstorm_yeah...I intend to do destro as soon as we keep tanks alive  :s
04:18.01Diaoseems like it too
04:18.11Diaoall rogues combat, all dps warrs fury
04:18.17mykxSilverstorm_: we had the same exact problems at the start "oh shit im dead" but your healers will eventually just learn how to deal with it
04:18.45Diaoa
04:18.45mykxhow many people do you have assigned to raid healing?
04:19.09mykxwe have 1 shaman raid healing and everybody else is on MT or burns
04:22.12Silverstorm_our healer lead seems to think 3 healers on each, and shaman are brain healing off MT
04:22.25Silverstorm_and even with that, they still want SPs
04:22.57Apocobbls
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04:24.27Silverstorm_but I'm thinking we need 5-6 on the tanks, with the 2 shaman chain healing off the tank, and the druid on burns with someone to help the last 20 seconds
04:26.13aestilwhats the dog tag for class color for name?
04:26.29aestilnvm
04:30.10DARKGuyHmm, is there any addon to tell me which enemies do I have close to me by watching the combat log or something ?
04:31.27vithosthere's an old one called ICU, but i can't recommend it
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04:31.40CIA-42TradeskillInfo:
04:31.40CIA-42- Fix all swp patterns
04:31.41CIA-42- Adjust various patterns to display correct materials
04:31.41CIA-42- begin support for FRfr
04:31.41CIA-42- FRfr drycoded and not enabled
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04:35.27DARKGuyvithos, why not?
04:37.43grimmanICU was a hunter tracking addon, wasn't it? It's been a while since I played my hunter, but I doubt it ever parsed the combat log.
04:38.34CIA-4203kurax * r75526 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (5 files): AtlasLoot_BCInstances: Update locales
04:40.41vithosi believe it did both minimap and combatlog, but i doubt it's been updated anyway
04:40.55Aens|Superioritygrimman: it is.
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04:41.16Aens|Superiorityicu would report in whatever channel it was when you clicked their dot on the minimap
04:41.32Aens|Superiority*whatever channel it was set to
04:43.18vithosoh it seems it has been updated.  http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/6031/
04:44.31DARKGuyyeah, but it's hunter only :(
04:45.54vithosdoesn't say that in the description
04:47.36DARKGuyoh.. personal sentry
04:47.45DARKGuyI had looked at ICU 2.0 before
04:47.56vithosah
04:48.48DARKGuyWell that addon is pure win
04:48.52DARKGuyI need it to survive
04:48.52DARKGuyxD
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04:56.29anenigmahmm.  i can't seem to cap any pvp objectives.  or at least, none of the ones which involve standing somewhere.
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04:56.39anenigmai've got capping installed, so it "should" show the indicator smack in the middle of my screen, but i don't see anything.
04:56.59anenigmaand i've stood still, unmounted, unstealthed, right next to a flag for 3 minutes without anything happening
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05:04.08NivFreakthere's some "standard" databases that people use for item DKP costs right?
05:04.49vithoslol i just ran out of arrows on council, still #3 dps!
05:10.54mykxNivFreak: I would say no actually all of my guilds just make up prices
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06:35.59Arrowmasteranenigma: are you sure capping does that? because i use it and have never seen it do anything with the capturebar
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06:39.09ElkanoArrowmaster: what is the issue?
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06:40.59Arrowmasterhuh?
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06:41.17ArrowmasterElkano: oh he was saying he wasnt seeing the capture bar
06:42.18Elkanohmmm
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06:49.26durcynoutdoor?  were you properly flagged? =P
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06:50.52grimmanElkano: It did it again! And this time I actually have screenshots. :P
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07:02.11Elkanoanyone using FBoH and able to compare it to Baggins?
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07:13.34itsonhi guys, anybody up still?
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07:32.12Primerhrmm, is there no per-character mode for IHML?!?
07:32.29Primerevery time I change the default macro, it's changed for all my characters
07:32.41Primerand it sucks, since I want the default to be different for each class
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07:37.18vhaarrnevcairiel: can I hide the count text on action bar buttons with BT3? and is it time to get BT4 now, or is it still a bit dodgy? :P
07:38.34SnagoPrimer: You've tried changing Profiles?
07:39.10SnagoThat's what they're for
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07:39.52ramozvhaarr: ive been using bt4 for a while and havn't had any issues
07:39.57ramozjust missing features really
07:40.07vhaarrright
07:40.30ramozleft
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07:43.02PrimerSnago: hrmm, I saw "profiles" but it didn't seem to be intuitive
07:43.23PrimerSnago: seems that every other addon has a simple checkbox for "per character settings"
07:43.49PrimerI'll look through that next time. I just turned my gaming box off. Thanks for the tip
07:47.47ElkanoPrimer, then you never used any Ace based addons ;) they use the profile stuff, not a simple checkbox
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07:54.31CIA-4203lahow * r75529 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
07:54.31CIA-42Cartographer_QuestInfo:
07:54.31CIA-42- update quest data
07:54.31CIA-42- add quixote2 patch to remove battleground spam
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07:59.21Arrowmasterholy shit somebody put a T58-GE-8F 1,370 hp @ 6000 rpm 1,200lbs-ft torque US Air Force helicopter turbine into a speed boat
07:59.38VulcanusOMGZ!!!111oneone
07:59.51Vulcanusin other words: huh?
07:59.51VulcanusXD
08:00.06Arrowmasterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzrb6PF8Ffg
08:01.11Vulcanushaha, fucking wall of water behind it
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08:12.50ramozwait
08:12.55ramozis that shit driven by a propell?
08:13.18ramozer
08:14.00ramoznah, gotta be waterjet
08:14.18Nechcknsame idea as destroyers and cruisers.. both use jet, well turbine engines to move
08:14.37ramozcant imageine gearbox would be able to move that kinda force into a propeller
08:14.44Nechcknbut they use directional propellers
08:14.59ramozbut not to move forward
08:15.03NechcknWell.. the main reduction gear is the key
08:15.17Nechcknand if it gets mucked up then you are DIW
08:15.49Nechcknthe one that Arrowmaster linked is pretty frikin' cool though
08:16.03Nechcknlike a jetski on uber steroids
08:16.26Arrowmasterhttp://www.nyethermodynamics.com/squirt_2.htm
08:17.09b00gylua> os.date("%H:%M:%S", os.time(os.date("!*t", 0 )))
08:17.09lua_botb00gy: 00:00:00
08:17.16b00gyawwwwww
08:17.39b00gyArrowmaster, sorry to say but your way doesnt work in WoW :/
08:17.50Arrowmasterhow so?
08:18.08Arrowmastergota change os.date to date and os.time to time
08:18.09b00gythe expression above yields the actual time instead of the above
08:18.20Arrowmasterwtf
08:18.24b00gyyeah it works but not as intended
08:18.42Arrowmasteryou sure you remembered the 0?
08:18.47b00gyif i do date("%H:%M:%S", time(date("!*t", 0 ))) i get my local computer time
08:18.59Arrowmasterthats messed up
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08:20.29CIA-4203StiviS * r75530 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
08:20.29CIA-42AutoBar :
08:20.29CIA-42- esES updated
08:23.05b00gy~logs
08:23.05purllogs is, like, apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
08:23.30CIA-4203starlon * r75531 10StarTip/Modules/ (Position.lua Text.lua):
08:23.30CIA-42StarTip:
08:23.30CIA-42- Handle tooltip positioning properly
08:23.30CIA-42- Add MasterLooter line to text
08:27.59b00gywell, SecondsToTime does work, but it has a fixed format :/
08:30.31CIA-4203idefix * r75532 10autoInvite/ (autoInvite.lua localization_de.lua):
08:30.31CIA-42autoInvite: Fixed problem with Load Guild in german version (thx to doubter13 for reporting that).
08:30.31CIA-42autoInvite: Now sort the list if Update or Clear is clicked and the sort checkbox is selected.
08:33.00Snagob00gy: iirc SecondsToTime is defined in the blizz lua code, so you can look at it, copy it and change it to how you want it
08:33.11Snago~framexml
08:33.12purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
08:35.01b00gysnago, i'm already looking at it, but it's simple div/mod, so building something which takes a format string would be to hard for me to do :D but thats what i'm actually looking for...well search goes on :/
08:35.08b00gybzt thanks for the tip
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08:40.33SnagoApoco: ping
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08:44.20CIA-4203lahow * r75533 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (Map.lua SeriesFrame.lua):
08:44.20CIA-42Cartographer_QuestInfo:
08:44.20CIA-42- now shift-click item of quest series frame will insert quest link
08:44.57Arrowmasterheh seems my version of flash was a bit outadate
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08:50.26ramozgot hacked?
08:50.26Lywellynholy.  crap.  LOL!  "Papa Hummel's Old-Fashioned Pet Biscuit"   God I love playing the WoW TCG.
08:53.15Arrowmasterramoz: no, just figured i should update
08:55.27ArrowmasterLywellyn: wow those are cheap on ebay, i should get one
08:55.48Lywellyncheap on ebay...?
08:56.00Arrowmasteryeah that loot card
08:56.15Arrowmaster$5.99 buyout
08:56.30Lywellynwell mine was $3.95 ;)
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09:02.10CIA-4203StiviS * r75534 10TradeskillInfo/ (5 files): (log message trimmed)
09:02.10CIA-42TradeskillInfo:
09:02.10CIA-42- TradeskillInfo.lua:
09:02.10CIA-42--- Cleaned un-used translations strings
09:02.10CIA-42--- esES updated
09:02.11CIA-42- TradeskillData-esES:
09:02.13CIA-42--- Added LibBabble-Faction-3.0 to make more easy translations
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09:06.00b00gyis there a reason why blizz uses two times 'time = tempTime..splitter;', where tempTime is an integer and for their last concatenation 'seconds = format("%d", seconds);time = time..seconds;' ?
09:06.17b00gymaybe tempTime is a float...
09:07.15NeoTronso we had a prot warrior do 1500 dps on gorefiend today
09:07.24NeoTronironically.. he did 1550 dps on gorefiend last week, specced fury
09:07.27NeoTronsomething is amiss
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09:08.26Snagolol
09:08.49NeoTronI'm very impressed with 1500 dps as prot though
09:09.01NeoTronjust wish he did more like 2000 dps specced fury.. :P
09:09.33SnagoBut as fury he would also improve the other meleers damage. Or is that arms?
09:09.40NeoTronarms
09:09.46NeoTronhe does more dps than our arms warrior
09:09.50NeoTronbut not enough
09:10.02SnagoLet him tank then :P
09:10.08NeoTronarms on brut contributes about 400-450 dps
09:10.22NeoTronin his old guild he was arms spec so he's new to fury
09:10.27NeoTronand doesn't have perfect gear yet
09:11.30NeoTronthat said we typically have 1 prot, 1 pally, 1-2 druid tanks
09:11.35ramozNeoTron: you can take 4% dps from all the melee and give it to the arms warrior
09:11.36NeoTronrarely ever need two prot
09:11.42NeoTronramoz: right
09:11.53NeoTronwhicch is about 400-450 dps
09:12.08NeoTronwhich is why  I said he did more dps but not enough :)
09:13.42NeoTronanyhow... me->bed()
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09:18.20ncd|Aileenmh, if 1550 is more than your arms warrior
09:18.31ncd|Aileenyour warriors are kinda strange :D
09:20.18NeoTronwhat do you mean?
09:20.35NeoTronarms warrior did over 1600 dps on one brutallus attempt
09:20.56NeoTronwe don't use full buffs, drums and crap for BT I wouldn't think
09:21.35evlour arms does 1900
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09:22.36NeoTronI will be the first to admit that our arms warrior isn't great...
09:22.44NeoTronthat said what level gear? lots of SWP stuff?
09:23.17NeoTron1900 seems very high for arms too imho
09:23.31NeoTronwould love to see a wws for that :P
09:24.02NeoTronso our arms warrior seems to do 1450-1600 dps on brut
09:24.42evli dunno really
09:24.46evldepends on slam rotation and all that crap
09:24.55ncd|Aileen1754 did our arms warrior last night, 1 haste pot 1 heroism, no demonslaying I guess
09:25.25NeoTronour deeps wars are typically beat by the enhance shammy and ret pally (alliance)
09:26.13evlour arms uses demonslaying, haste pots every 2 min and has drums afaik
09:26.23evlas everybody else in melee group
09:26.44NeoTronours shoudl...
09:26.51NeoTronin either case heading to bed for realz. night
09:27.06evlbrut is easy on farm
09:27.19evlbut you can't really expect to take him down without pottage if you don't have really good setup
09:27.31evlI mean even the best guilds are potting like new years on muru even on 5th takedown
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09:31.03ncd|Aileendunno, I play Healer :)
09:31.29ncd|Aileenand have to go all in, 3 super mana potions, 1-x demonic runes etc
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09:36.22ioismeis there a way i can setup a macro where i would /use Bright Baubles on my Fishing Pole
09:37.35NechcknFishing Buddy will do all of that stuff for ya.. not sure if you can macro it, but idk.
09:37.56ioismeyes Nechckn, i am big fan of FishingBuddy and also FishingAce
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09:38.19ioismebut i need to click on a macro that will apply the lure to the pole insted of double clicking to apply the lure.
09:38.49ioismeis there a way i could set it up so on Event Bright Baubles buff fades it would reapply it?
09:39.13ioismei tried to copy or read the code from FishingAce and i didnt get anywhere for last 2 hrs
09:40.46ioismeif i just put /use Bright Baubles then next line i put /use <name of my Fishing Pole> it would apply the lure everytime i press the macro
09:41.30ArrowmasterFishermansFriend
09:41.46ioismewhat is FishermansFriend?
09:41.52Arrowmasteranother addon
09:42.01Arrowmasterits impossible to do what you want with just a macro
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09:42.14ioismeok, let me look up FishermansFriend
09:42.59b00gyin lua, if i declare a local function, i can't use self:anotherFunction right? i have to use myAddon:anotherFunction?
09:43.16b00gythe usage of anotherFunction is in the local function of course
09:43.20Arrowmasterb00gy: right
09:43.32Arrowmasterself only works inside of methods
09:43.35KemayoAnyone know off the top of their head what happens if you rebind a key while that key is being held down?
09:43.38Arrowmasterwhich are special functions
09:43.45b00gyif i do myAddon:anotherFunction every other addon can call myAddon:anotherFunction right?
09:43.47ArrowmasterKemayo: yes ive done it
09:44.03KemayoLike, if I rebound the key for "move forward" to "move left" while holding it down, would I start moving left, or keep going forward?
09:44.06ArrowmasterKemayo: i did it with the movement keys and got stuck running
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09:44.34Arrowmasternot sure on that one
09:44.44Arrowmasteri was rebinding moveforward to autorun
09:45.07KemayoIt occurred to me that if that worked, I could finally have "run me from X to Y" addon again. :)
09:45.16b00gyis in lua something like private then
09:45.36Arrowmasterb00gy: huh?
09:45.53Arrowmasteryeah if you do myAddon:anotherFunction others an call it too if myAddon is global
09:46.04Kemayob00gy: If you do "local function foo() ... end" then "self" won't mean anything within it.
09:46.06b00gyi want to declare a function in my code, so that no other addons can cll this method, but i dont want it to be local
09:46.37charonyou're basically saying "i want it to be local, but not local"?
09:46.44b00gysort of :D
09:46.58charonmaybe Russell can help you with this
09:47.03b00gyi want a private function, if something like that exists in lua
09:48.19SnagoHave Chuck Norris declare your functions.. Noone will dare call them :P
09:48.31Arrowmaster~lart Snago
09:48.31purlcalls Snago on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home
09:48.52charonjust say "local function foo(self, ...) ... end" then instead of self:foo(...) or addon:foo(...) call foo(self, ...)
09:49.06charonthe : operator is defined in terms of the . operator and the implicit self
09:49.06Kemayob00gy: You can create a function that is local to the current scope (e.g. the file it's being declared in).  If the places you need to call it are all within that file, then only your addon would be able to see it.
09:49.37ioismeok, maybe ill forget trying to work it though a macro, and just add it to my addon something relating to RegisterEvent or something like that
09:49.41Kemayo("function addon:monkey(a, b, c)" == "function addon.monkey(self, a, b, c)")
09:49.45b00gykeymaro, thats what local is right?
09:49.56Kemayob00gy: Yes.
09:50.22Nargiddleyb00gy, why do you not want a local ?
09:50.24ioismei need to apply lure to my pole w/o double clicking on the screen like how most of the addons do it. maybe auto lure every 10 min,
09:50.45b00gyok, but in local functions self doesnt have a meaning or i have to pass self via the function call
09:50.52Arrowmasterioisme: you can do it with a macro but it will apply the lure every click, cant so it otherwise
09:50.53charonwhat Kemayo said... and to complete the definitions, o:f(a,b,c) is the same as o.f(o,a,b,c)
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09:51.12Arrowmasterioisme: actually wait i take that back
09:51.16charon(as a call, not as a declaration)
09:51.21ioismearrowmaster can i set it up in my addon? like when the buff fades, it reapplies it
09:51.21b00gyi just want to try to understand lua Nargiddley
09:52.11Nargiddleyb00gy, you might be able to do something tricky with meta tables. but there is no concept of private (except locals) in lua
09:52.38b00gyah okay, thanks, i dont want to do it actually, just understanding how lua works
09:52.45Kemayob00gy: That's right.  If you're exposing your addon object, but don't want to expose some internal functions then you can't place them within the object, and thus you'd want to have a local function, which you would either call with the addon object as a parameter, or would just refer to "myAddon" instead of "self" within it.
09:52.49b00gyif there is no such concept, well, then there isnt
09:53.25KemayoLua is enjoyably streamlined, on the whole.
09:53.45Nargiddleyan object is really just a table with some functions in it, the object:method() calling convention is just syntactic sugar around object.method(object)
09:53.54b00gyif i do "function addon:monkey(a, b, c)" == "function addon.monkey(self, a, b, c)", no one cann call addon.monkey directly but could call addon:monkey?
09:54.15Nargiddleyboth create exactly the same function
09:54.24ioismearrowmaster can i just add an event in my addon that will monitor COMBAT_LOG for when Bright Baubles fades, and when it does, the addon would re apply it.
09:54.26b00gyso no real object orientation in lua
09:54.28KemayoYeah, I was just saying that the two syntaxes are equivalent.
09:54.33Arrowmasterioisme: no
09:55.05Kemayob00gy: It's probably fairer to say that it does not explicitly define an OO system.  There are several out there which are built from what it does provide.
09:55.19[Ammo]Arrowmaster: you had a fishermansfriend issue?
09:55.19Arrowmasterioisme: i was going to tell you how to do it with fishermansfriend but i just looked at the options and theres no way to disable the doublerightlick to cast
09:55.29Arrowmaster[Ammo]: i posted it on the forums
09:55.33[Ammo]ok
09:55.37[Ammo]I have no gametime atm
09:55.46[Ammo]but that will be amended after work today
09:55.50[Ammo]I will fix it drycode
09:55.52[Ammo]for you to test
09:56.04b00gyok, thanks for all the answers :)
09:56.05Arrowmaster[Ammo]: if you need ill get the real debugstack
09:56.12[Ammo]pastey plix
09:56.21ioismei dont mind if the addon tries to apply the lure via double click, but i need the addon to apply the lure when i click on  [Fishing] from my spell book.
09:56.27Arrowmaster[Ammo]: ill have to go ingame and reproduce it
09:56.35[Ammo]if you would be so kind
09:56.46[Ammo]I will attempt to fix it drycode
09:56.48[Ammo]gimme 5 mins :
09:56.50Arrowmasterioisme: from the spellbook i dont think can be done
09:57.11[Ammo]ioisme: impossible without doing what FmF does
09:57.27ioismewell, what i mean is, if i move the spell from spell book to my action bar say 1. so if i press 1 ( to cast the line ) i want it to apply the lure if my fishing pole doesnt already have one.
09:57.53Arrowmaster[Ammo]: you remember if its possible to use /click to simulate a rightclick?
09:57.54[Ammo]ioisme: you'll have to hook that button than in the way FMF does the doublerightclick
09:57.54KemayoYou could do it with a macro that does "/click MagicFrameFromFishermansFriend", right?
09:58.00b00gywell one more question, are there any speed implications if i refer to myAddon in a local function instead of using myAddon:myFunction and use self within it?
09:58.04[Ammo]Kemayo: not really :)
09:58.11ArrowmasterKemayo: yes but FmF only does it on right click
09:58.22KemayoI see conflicting opinions. :P
09:58.40[Ammo]Arrowmaster: so you move inventory stuff and fmf gives problems?
09:58.47[Ammo]I wonder how that is piossible because I do a combatlockdown check
09:58.52Arrowmaster[Ammo]: yes incombat
09:58.55[Ammo]anmd don't act when in combat
09:58.59Kemayob00gy: Depends on whether "myAddon" is a local.  If it's not, then it's (very slightly) slower than "self".
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09:59.20ioismeim not sure why i cant just put some code in my addon that will add the lure to my fishing pole every 10 min.
09:59.26Arrowmasterk loading wow to go get a debugstack
09:59.39Arrowmasterioisme: because casting spells is protected
09:59.39[Ammo]ioisme: what is the problem with using fmf exactly?
09:59.45Kemayoioisme: I think that using items like that requires a hardware event.
09:59.49Arrowmasteryou cant do it every 10 minutes
10:00.10ioismehow is FMF able to cast the spells then?
10:00.22Arrowmasterit changes the secure action button
10:00.24ioismeisnt it doing it though an addon? oh its not automated, or timed event
10:00.25b00gyKeymaro, thanks a lot
10:00.30KemayoIf I'm right about the hardware event, then because it triggers from a click.
10:01.00Arrowmasteryeah it sets it so that it will do the lure on the first doubleclick if you have lures and no lure on the pool
10:01.13Arrowmasterthen switchs it to fish
10:01.24[Ammo]what fmf does is add lure if no lure, fish if lure
10:01.33[Ammo]and fish if no lure available
10:01.42Kemayob00gy: Essentially, looking up a global costs you a missed local check, then a table lookup (because globals are stored in a table, more or less).  Accessing a local is very optimized, because it's just that first bit.
10:01.47[Ammo]it does so by hooking the worldframe onmousedown
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10:02.02noctsSo, how can I make a mod load/execute AFTER  the UI scale is applied?
10:02.02[Ammo]and checking doublerightclick
10:02.22[Ammo]nocts: hook UIParent:SetScale
10:02.27ioismei want to try to copy that code so that everytime event CloseLoot() happens, it checks if there is lure if there isnt it adds lure.
10:02.30[Ammo]or the CVar
10:02.35[Ammo]ioisme: not possible
10:02.39[Ammo]ioisme: you need a hardware event
10:02.39ioismei see
10:03.13[Ammo]Arrowmaster: I need that debugstack, I can't see anything wrong from my code :(
10:03.17ioismeis there any way to replicate double click via 3rd party program every 10 min on a mac?
10:03.33Arrowmasteryes but dont do it
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10:03.49b00gyKeymayo, so its always good the get a local reference to global functions if i use them more than once?
10:03.51KemayoYou can certainly make it more *convenient* than double-clicking.  A big button that lights up if you don't have a lure applied, and applies a lure when you click it, say.
10:03.53Snagoit's called botting and is a bannable offense :P
10:04.21noctsAnd.. how do I hook something? -.-
10:04.27noctsUsing lua, that is.
10:04.34[Ammo]nocts: you could check for the CVAR events
10:04.34CIA-4203starlon * r75535 10StarTip/Modules/ (Bars.lua Text.lua):
10:04.34CIA-42StarTip:
10:04.34CIA-42- Add selectable textures for the Bars
10:04.34CIA-42- Clean up
10:04.40[Ammo]I think UIscale is set in the CVARs
10:05.05[Ammo]the event is: CVAR_UPDATE
10:05.10b00gyif i made 2 small addons and want them in the wowace avn and do have an avn account, can i just check them in? or do i have to send a request for getting my addons in somewhere?
10:05.13Arrowmastercvar is uiScale
10:05.13Kemayob00gy: If you're going to be calling them a lot in tight loops, especially.
10:05.23[Ammo]the variable is uiScale
10:05.37Kemayob00gy: If you have an account, and have read the rules and all that, then you're free to check in whatever you want.
10:05.42Brunersany rogues here?
10:05.43[Ammo]b00gy: if you have an account feel free to add them, and abide by the rules
10:05.45b00gyKeymyo, ok thanks :) dislike tight loops anyway :)
10:05.57b00gyyeah...rules...gotta look them up  i think
10:05.59Arrowmaster[Ammo]: just ported to org and going to go find some boars to get that debugstack
10:06.06[Ammo]Arrowmaster: awesome
10:06.07Kemayo(With the standard proviso that you'd have to get special access rights to commit anything executable.)
10:06.19[Ammo]Arrowmaster: :Show() is never called on the button, so kinda surprised how the fuck that happened:
10:06.28[Ammo]as well as I only respond to UPDATE_INVENTORY blah
10:06.31[Ammo]and out of combat only
10:06.40[Ammo]so surprised about it doing on bag movement
10:06.51Arrowmasteri know ive gotten this error alot but i really should have copied it
10:06.59[Ammo]yeah
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10:07.09[Ammo]you're the first to complain
10:07.13Kemayob00gy: This page is mostly accurate: http://wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips
10:07.16[Ammo]others only complain about fmf tainting some stuff
10:07.28Arrowmasterhmm ok not getting it
10:07.45Arrowmasterits probably the tainting then
10:07.50[Ammo]could be
10:07.53Arrowmasterunless thats from the doubleclicking
10:07.58[Ammo]no idea
10:08.04[Ammo]wear a pole
10:08.06[Ammo]attack a bore
10:08.08[Ammo]boar
10:08.11[Ammo]doublerightclick?
10:08.19ArrowmasterGOT IT
10:08.26[Ammo]ok
10:08.33[Ammo]what did you do to trigger it and pastey the error :)
10:08.51b00gyKemayo: seen that before, but there are too many things o don't understand yet...not even remotely grabbed all lua concepts yet :/
10:09.36Arrowmasterhad to use itemrack to trigger it
10:09.49Arrowmasterwow when did pastey add openid?
10:10.04[Ammo]hmm
10:10.11Arrowmasterand when will my broswer stop locking up because im running wow
10:10.13noctsHow would hooking actually load the mod at a later time?
10:10.15[Ammo]haha
10:10.23Arrowmaster1gig ram ftl
10:10.29[Ammo]nocts: you would need 2 addons to accomplish that
10:10.37Kemayonocts: It wouldn't load it later, but you could delay its actually *doing* anything until later.
10:10.39[Ammo]or add an AddonLoader directive for hooking
10:11.50noctsMy problem is that the math in the mod is loading before the first frame, so it's applying nothing to the ui scale.
10:12.09noctsI need to force it to wait until the first frame to run it's math.
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10:12.29[Ammo]do the math on PLAYER_LOGIN
10:12.30[Ammo]done
10:12.35[Ammo]frames are available then
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10:12.57[Ammo]and do the math on CVAR_UPDATE when the first argument is "uiScale"
10:12.58Kemayois PLAYER_LOGIN after ADDON_LOADED?
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10:13.02[Ammo]Kemayo: yeah
10:13.13noctsAhhh, that makes sneaky sense
10:13.20[Ammo]in Ace terms, ADDON_LOADED = OnInit, PLAYER_LOGIN = OnEnable
10:13.39[Ammo]when IsLoggedIn() -> OnInit and OnEnable right after eachother on ADDON_LOADEDE
10:13.40Kemayoshould really bookmark that page somewhere on wowwiki with the login event sequence.
10:13.53[Ammo]but that's ace terms ofcourse
10:14.04Arrowmaster[Ammo]: http://ace.pastey.net/88677
10:14.07[Ammo]basic login is: ADDON_LOADED, PLAYER_LOGIN, PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
10:14.28Arrowmaster[Ammo]: it was 88678 was from trying to destroy an item
10:14.30noctsWhat's the equiv or player_entering_world on lua?
10:14.39Kulaarhm can someone tell me what: Parrot - Updated to rev WITH Externals 75510 UNSTABLE means?
10:14.43[Ammo]Arrowmaster: real weird
10:14.52Kulaari mean especially the unstable part
10:15.16Arrowmastermean untested may not work, break, kill your dog
10:15.40[Ammo]nocts: it's an event fired
10:15.45Kulaarmy poor dog :(
10:15.56[Ammo]Arrowmaster: were you in combat when you equipped the pole?
10:16.09Arrowmasteri never equiped a pole
10:16.12[Ammo]wtf
10:16.20ioismei cant even use something like /castsequence reset=blabla to apply the lure every 10 min?
10:16.22[Ammo]FMF is not load on demand?
10:16.30Arrowmasteri have addonloader
10:16.44Arrowmasterdoes that load it?
10:16.47[Ammo]no
10:16.54Arrowmasterotherwise its 100% svn copy
10:16.55[Ammo]does it happen without itemrack?
10:16.59Arrowmasterno clue
10:17.06[Ammo]fmf does nothing with addonloader
10:17.16Arrowmastershould i go back to org again?
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10:17.27[Ammo]I'd say this is caused by itemreack
10:17.28Arrowmasterand turn off itemrack?
10:17.29Kemayonocts: Take a look at http://wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips#Nice_way_to_register_events_.28without_a_framework.29 to see an example of how to respond to events.
10:17.37[Ammo]since the traceback is to that
10:17.47[Ammo]and something is doing SetAttribute on my button
10:17.55noctsThank you Kem
10:17.56Arrowmastersomething is?
10:18.05[Ammo]well SetAttribute is called on FMF button
10:18.10[Ammo]but FMF Itself isn't doing it
10:18.29[Ammo]I'd say itemrack is to blame
10:18.40[Ammo]what version are you using?
10:18.45Arrowmasterlatest from wowi
10:18.53[Ammo](so I can download and look at the probably horrible code()
10:18.57Arrowmaster2.12
10:19.12[Ammo]there is a 2.15 from gello
10:19.32Arrowmasterohrly?
10:19.40[Ammo]http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6818-ItemRack2.15.html
10:20.54ioismethanks amo
10:20.56ioismethanks Ammo
10:21.09ioismeis there something like AC Tools for macs?
10:21.22ioismewhere i can control my mouse?
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10:21.54Arrowmasterare you trying to afk fish?
10:22.07Nechcknyes....
10:22.07ioismeim no where near good enough to code that lol
10:22.09[Ammo]if you're trying to afk fish I suggest you leave this channel, you're not welcome
10:22.15ioismei am trying to do my HW and fish
10:22.27Nechckn:You can't do it... without botting
10:22.28[Ammo]we don't endorse botting
10:22.28Arrowmaster[Ammo]: its not itemrack
10:22.35[Ammo]Arrowmaster: hrmf
10:22.42[Ammo]new traceback?
10:22.50Arrowmasteryes and taintlog2
10:22.56[Ammo]ok
10:23.28[Ammo]just amazed at the :Show() being called, because I don't call it at all in the addon
10:23.58Arrowmasterhmm i dont think this traceback is any different than the 2nd one i pasteyed
10:24.12Arrowmasteryou saw the 2nd one right?
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10:24.27[Ammo]oh yeah
10:24.34Arrowmasterits not different
10:24.40Arrowmasterbut i have a taintlog2
10:24.50[Ammo]it's just weird
10:24.55Arrowmasterdoing /rl to get that
10:24.56[Ammo]this happens in combat I assume
10:25.01Arrowmasteryes
10:25.06Arrowmasterin combat trying to destroy an item
10:25.18[Ammo]without wearing a pole?
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10:25.45[Ammo]I think its the actionbar button code
10:27.53[Ammo]I think I have a fix
10:28.01[Ammo]at least smoething to try
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10:29.18ArrowmasterElkano: fuck you for using getglobal() in an OnUpdate in ElkBuffBar(no s)
10:29.46Elkanohmm?
10:29.52Arrowmastermy taintlog
10:29.54[Ammo]Arrowmaster: want to try something for me
10:30.01Arrowmasterits full of crap from that getglobal
10:30.06[Ammo]Arrowmaster: go to lie 207
10:30.09[Ammo]line 207
10:30.22Elkanoupgrde to EBBs then ;)
10:30.30[Ammo]and change the template to: "SecureActionButtonTemplate"
10:30.35[Ammo]and comment out line 208
10:31.06[Ammo]it doesn't even have to be a CheckButton then but that's something else I think
10:31.49Arrowmasterhttp://ace.pastey.net/88679
10:32.18[Ammo]boggle
10:32.33Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 An action was blocked in combat because of taint from FishermansFriend - FishermansFriendButton:Show()
10:32.33Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 Interface\FrameXML\ActionButton.lua:181
10:32.33Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 FishermansFriendButton:SetAttribute()
10:32.34Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 Interface\FrameXML\ActionButton.lua:264 ActionButton_ShowGrid()
10:32.35Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 Interface\FrameXML\ActionButton.lua:352 ActionButton_OnEvent()
10:32.37Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 FishermansFriendButton:OnEvent()
10:32.37Elkanoalso, Arrowmaster, that was the way to do it back then :/
10:32.43Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 PickupContainerItem()
10:32.45Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 Interface\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua:575 ContainerFrameItemButton_OnClick()
10:32.47Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:45.274 ContainerFrame2Item29:OnDragStart()
10:32.49Arrowmasterfuck
10:32.51Arrowmasterhttp://ace.pastey.net/88680
10:32.53ArrowmasterElkano: i have no reason to upgrade =D
10:33.03Arrowmasterlol
10:33.04ArrowmasterGlobal variable alreadyLocked tainted by ItemRack - Interface\AddOns\ItemRack\ItemRackButtons.lua:556 UpdateButtonLocks()
10:33.48Elkanoalso wrt taint logs, I've no exp :( but why should it cause taint?
10:33.52Arrowmasterhttp://ace.pastey.net/88681
10:34.04Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:46.977 Execution tainted by ElkBuffBar while reading ElkBuffButton1 - getglobal()
10:34.04Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:46.977 Interface\AddOns\ElkBuffBar\ElkBuffBar.lua:521 OnUpdate()
10:34.04Arrowmaster5/30 06:25:46.977 Interface\AddOns\ElkBuffBar\ElkBuffBar.lua:36
10:34.12ArrowmasterOVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER
10:34.19ElkanoOo
10:34.36Arrowmasterits a taintLog 2
10:34.42Elkanowell, feel free to change it to use _G localy, should work, too I think ;)
10:34.51Arrowmasteri think i will sometime
10:35.08Arrowmaster[Ammo]: comment 208 you say?
10:35.54Elkanoanyways, I nerver understood that whole taint stuff anyways to it's fullest :/
10:36.07Arrowmastertaintlog 2 bitchs about everything
10:36.16Arrowmasterbut it really hates getglobal
10:36.23[Ammo]Arrowmaster: yeah
10:36.36Arrowmastersince its a secure function returning an insecure value
10:36.38[Ammo]slo change the template
10:36.42[Ammo]also change the template
10:36.44[Ammo]that should fix it
10:36.45[Ammo]I hope
10:36.54Arrowmaster[Ammo]: i did, starting wow back up to test
10:37.02[Ammo]hehe /rl is good enough
10:37.10[Ammo]the issue is it using an actionbutton template
10:37.11Arrowmasteri closed it so i could browse the taint log
10:37.15Arrowmaster1gig of ram sucks
10:37.15[Ammo]which means when you destroy an item
10:37.20[Ammo]it has to update ell action buttons
10:37.32[Ammo]which causes taint (from line 208)
10:37.38Arrowmasterim not even destorying items, im canceling it
10:37.42[Ammo]I know
10:37.45[Ammo]but the update is still called
10:38.04Arrowmasteryour failure for using that template i guess if this works
10:38.05[Ammo]if this fixes it and fmf still works change CheckButton to Button and try again
10:38.08[Ammo]yeah
10:38.18[Ammo]if that works I'll commit the change
10:38.23Arrowmasterno error
10:38.29[Ammo]\o/
10:38.32[Ammo]does fmf itself still work?
10:38.38Arrowmasterlet me find a pond
10:38.43[Ammo]equip a pole
10:38.49[Ammo]and pew pew doubleclick
10:38.58Arrowmasterthis will take me a few
10:39.01[Ammo]hehe
10:39.03[Ammo]no hurry
10:39.18Arrowmastermy per character keybinds and macros decided to go missing again
10:39.22[Ammo]ugh
10:39.30Arrowmasterhappens when i /rl too much
10:39.51Arrowmasteri have my entire WTF as a git repo now though
10:41.21[Ammo]if this fixes all issues I R happy
10:41.52Arrowmasterfishing hat equiped
10:41.56Arrowmasterlure applied
10:42.22[Ammo]so it works :)
10:42.23[Ammo]yay
10:42.23Arrowmasterfishing in org with 490 fishing
10:42.27[Ammo]awesome
10:42.31[Ammo]committing
10:42.33[Ammo]no more taint either
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10:42.43Arrowmasteri caught a longjaw mud snapper
10:43.47[Ammo]commit is slow
10:43.53CIA-4203ammo * r75536 10FishermansFriend/FishermansFriend.lua: FishermansFriend: remove tainting by not using actionbuttontemplate but the raw secureactionbutton template. Thanks Arrowmaster for debugging assistance
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10:44.45BrunersFishermansFriend is what exactly?
10:45.46SunTsuBruners: Simple fishing addon, applys lures, makes you throw out on double click
10:45.58Daemonasome german candy, with a great slogan ;)
10:46.23SunTsuDaemona: Or that, yeah
10:46.46Brunershow much better than fishingace is it ?:P
10:46.54Arrowmasterlots
10:47.15[Ammo]it fixes most of the issues in fishingace
10:47.20Arrowmastersince fishingace assumes nobody else hooks the worldframe
10:47.23Arrowmasteras one issue
10:47.36[Ammo]has proper sound restoration
10:47.47noctshttp://pastey.net/88683
10:47.47[Ammo]uses half the memory disembedded
10:47.54noctsCan't figure out what I'm going wrong with event handling
10:47.58noctsHalp :(
10:48.32Brunersso its worth checking out even if fishingace causes no problems for me?
10:48.38[Ammo]f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) if event == "PLAYER_LOGIN" then .... end end )
10:48.47noctsSorry, with tabbing: http://pastey.net/88685
10:48.55[Ammo]Bruners: just replace fishingace with it
10:48.58[Ammo]and you will be happy
10:49.10[Ammo]you won't even notice the change
10:49.12Arrowmasterfishingace doesnt autouse the hat
10:49.15noctsI still need to register that event, correct?
10:49.17[Ammo]unless you also have a fishing competition hat
10:49.18Arrowmasterfmf does!
10:49.18[Ammo]nocts: yeah
10:49.25[Ammo]nocts: but you already did that
10:49.37b00gywhen i add my addon to the svn, and set my libs to external, the libs are not allowed to be present in the initial import? so i delete my libs fodler, do the import, then set my externals and i'm done right?
10:49.39noctsRight
10:49.42[Ammo]nocts: but
10:49.45[Ammo]nocts: all that is not needed
10:49.55[Ammo]frame:SetAllPoints(UIParent)
10:49.56[Ammo]done
10:50.29[Ammo]your texture application can be done on load then as well as you do right now
10:50.44[Ammo]and since your frame is parented to UIParent it should follow the scale
10:50.45noctsLost me -.-
10:51.05[Ammo]let me edit your pastey
10:51.12Arrowmasteri really need to do the fishing tourney this week and try and get that damn queenfish for the lure
10:51.19Arrowmasterthe +5 line
10:51.42Brunersisnt there a new lure from the quest?
10:51.44Bruners*line
10:51.50Aerrew, nocts
10:51.53vithosthe daily line isn't as good as the tourney line
10:52.18noctsAerr, what?
10:52.23Arrowmasteri just want the damn tourney line because its pissed me off so much
10:52.29Arrowmaster5 fucking boot!
10:52.32noctsReading it now, Ammo. thanks.
10:52.43[Ammo]nocts: http://pastey.net/88686
10:52.47[Ammo]updated it a bit
10:52.51Arrowmaster1 hat which i have since deleted for the quest one
10:52.55Arrowmasterand 0 lines
10:53.38noctsNow to look up SetAllPoints
10:53.57[Ammo]what it does is make your frame exactly the same size and place as UIParent
10:54.46noctsEr
10:54.58noctsSo I'm setting a 1920x256 area much larger than it should be?
10:55.15[Ammo]oh you only want a 256 height?
10:55.21[Ammo]at the bottom?
10:55.51[Ammo]frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT")
10:55.59[Ammo]frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", UIParent, "BOTTOMRIGHT")
10:56.13[Ammo]frame:SetHeight(256)
10:56.15noctsThat's a lot more code than frame:setWidth and similar. Why use set points?
10:56.39[Ammo]now you're nolonger limited to your width
10:56.41Arrowmasterbecause it changes is the res does
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10:56.44[Ammo]it'll be as wide as your resolution
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10:57.13noctsThe problem with that is the frame is formed based on the size of the textures
10:57.28nocts1920 is the exact frame size due to the textures being 512x256
10:57.31nocts:)
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10:57.53noctsI see what you mean, and I'll remember it for general use. But because of those block textures I have to stick to a static 1920
10:57.57Arrowmaster[Ammo]: you should have fmf automaticly turnon the "Sound Effects" sound option if its disabled as part of the sounds option
10:58.07[Ammo]Arrowmaster: ?
10:58.14[Ammo]Arrowmaster: oh hmm
10:58.23[Ammo]Arrowmaster: I didn't do that due to it being intrusive
10:58.24noctsWhat's a good error mod to read them/log them later?
10:58.28SilowyiSo it's 6am here.
10:58.29noctserrorbag?
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10:58.35[Ammo]!BugGrabber + BugSack
10:58.38SilowyiAnd their are birds chirping outside my window
10:58.49XelopherisWow, it's just like a musical
10:58.50Silowyiit's daylight savings time, there is no dawn, there is no hint of a dawn
10:58.54Silowyithey have been chirping for hours
10:58.55Arrowmaster[Ammo]: well if the option to adjust sound volume is on i dont find it intrusive if you turn it back off
10:58.57Fisker-i like you [Ammo]
10:59.05Silowyientertain me, I can't sleep.
10:59.28vithosSilowyi: it's 6am here, and light outside
10:59.34[Ammo]Arrowmaster: I agree, but I think I'll make it a separate toggle
10:59.35Fisker-i'm installing mass effect
10:59.42Silowyivithos: you in CST?
10:59.45Fisker-thanks to the arrogance of bioware/EA i just saved myself 50$
10:59.45[Ammo]since it's on by default and it will change behaviour if people have sound disabled
10:59.47vithosyes
10:59.53Arrowmastersounds good
11:00.01Silowyiweird
11:00.03vithosnorthwest arkansas
11:00.06Silowyioh
11:00.06[Ammo]and I hate changes in default beahviour
11:00.08Silowyithat explains it
11:00.11Silowyisouth texas
11:00.16Silowyiprobably will be light here soon
11:00.16[Ammo]hence my smackdown on people who change teh defaults of my addons
11:00.29evlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1022718/Pictured-The-moment-George-Bush-chest-bumps-airman.html
11:01.51SilowyiThat's probably the funniest thing to come out of U.S. politics since Kerry tried to kick a soccer ball
11:02.02XelopherisO_O http://www.reboot.com/
11:02.23SilowyiXelo: oh wow, that looks nothing like the original
11:02.26noctsDoes SetScript run repeatedly in a frame or just once?
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11:04.31JoshBorkenocts: it doesn't run at all until that method is called due to an event of some sort
11:04.40JoshBorkenocts: it runs whenever that method is called
11:07.08noctsSo interesting, thanks JoshBorke. I've got a lot to learn about the lua interpreter
11:07.13noctsThis isn't your mothers gcc -.-
11:07.42JoshBorkeit's not c at all ;-)
11:08.00noctsExactly ;) Thus my problem
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11:10.15Arrowmasteronce you learn the basics most things come to you quickly
11:12.07Trell_off topic: for a hemo build, Claw of Molten Fury or Heartless in my MH
11:15.38XelopherisSpeeds and average damages of both?
11:16.36XelopherisTrell_: Claw of Molten Fury, definitely.
11:16.46Xelopheris2.6 vs 2.7 speed
11:16.55Xelopherisnot to mention the higher dps. And the agi.
11:17.47AerrSo, anyone able to help me out with the new combat log changes. ex: updating the mod detecting the spell fading ect
11:18.11Trell_and my OH?
11:18.15Trell_im clueless about Hemo
11:18.32Trell_but I gave it a shot in MH last night, and the melee's dps increased, mine dropped, although I knew mine would
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11:18.47Trell_and I *think* the increase in melee dps outweighed my personal dps loss
11:18.48AerrTrell_ it effects hunters as well
11:19.12Trell_I was using claw of molten fury MH, gladiator's quickblade OH
11:19.22XelopherisHemo is only better if you're not properly buffing your melee (including yourself)
11:19.37Trell_although if im thinking right, I can sacrifice the sword OH for any weapon with good stats right?
11:19.44Xelopherisit breaks even if you're properly buffed and melee stacked
11:19.46Aerraka druids + enhance shammy with the melee, along with a warrior
11:19.56Xelopherisyou want a decent speeed OH for poisons, that's the only thing that matters about it Trell_
11:20.09Trell_we normally have 1/2 dps warrs, 2 rogues, 1 enh shammy
11:20.11XelopherisAerr, druids don't waste melee slots if you only have 1 enh shaman
11:20.12Trell_in our group
11:20.21Xelopherisyou throw them with the 3x hunters and resto shaman
11:20.24Trell_failing that we have a hunter taking the 2nd dps warrior
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11:20.29Trell_*warrior's slot
11:20.56Trell_also, can anyone explain why every KJ kill so far has included a hemo rogue?
11:21.12Aerrwe stack our 2 rogues with a warrior, enhance shammy, and feral druid
11:21.23Aerrthat sums up about all our melee dps
11:21.30XelopherisTrell, the only one that's included one afaik hsa been SK
11:21.47XelopherisThe others I saw were all combat or shadowstep in armory
11:21.51Trell_and nihilum
11:22.08Trell_but why sub at all?
11:22.11Xelopheriswho in nihilum?
11:22.12Trell_I don't get it
11:22.17Trell_sec, I'll get the name
11:23.13XelopherisOh, I see why. He's the class leader, he gets to not respec for pve :P
11:23.17Arrowmasterweve had a sub rogue get top damage lots of times
11:23.21grimmanDPE for hemo, in a sub spec, is better than SS.
11:23.31Trell_yeah I recognise that
11:23.33XelopherisGrimman, combat potency makes up for that
11:23.41grimmanYes, but sub specs don't get that.
11:23.42grimman:P
11:23.51Trell_Xelopheris: Cloze
11:24.04Xelopherisyeah trell, looking at his armory
11:24.07Trell_http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Cloze
11:24.33XelopherisIf anything it looks to me like he just doesn't respec for pve
11:24.42grimmanIn case the argument at any point touched SS/sub rogues. That's the first impression I got while skimming through the text.
11:24.47Trell_surely for KJ you'd be required to though - thats the thing I don't understand
11:25.06Trell_unless there was a reason for it
11:25.32Xelopheristhere is just no way the hemo debuff makes up for loss of precision and DW spec
11:26.31grimmanProbably not... those charges are bound to get devoured in like a second of the debuff being applied.
11:26.58Arrowmasterthey get devoured in a second when 5 maning MC on my 61 rogue
11:26.59grimmanWhich brings the group damage up slightly, but it's still a loss for the rogue himself.
11:27.05Xelopherisit only adds a total of 360 damage
11:27.33Xelopheris100 dps, essentially, per energy cost
11:27.37grimmanXelopheris: Before damage calculation, according to some people. I'm not sure exactly when it's calculated, but... meh.
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11:27.51XelopherisGrimman, it's added in before multipliers etc.
11:28.01XelopherisThe only classes that still raid with multipliers are feral druids
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11:28.15grimman:P Alright then.
11:28.19Trell_Xelopheris: 420 damage
11:28.22Xelopherisbut then enh shaman and fury warriors also have multipliers that go the other way around
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11:29.43noctswtb bag mod that just gives me the default, secured buttons and allows me to move them.
11:29.49nocts*bar mod
11:30.09noctsThat's it. Just the ability to -break- them into movable parts.
11:30.34Xelopherismove them during combat?
11:31.10noctsJust move them, doesn't have to be in combat.
11:31.26noctsBongos2/3 - all of the features except seperating the buttons and allowing them to move.
11:31.40Xelopherisflexbar
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11:31.57Arrowmasterthats a bar mod not bag mod
11:32.06noctsNotice my typo correction :P
11:32.22noctsXelopheris: Last I checked fb2 wasn't in a completely stable state, especially for petbars?
11:33.00Arrowmasternocts: have you tried bartender?
11:33.07Arrowmasterit splits everything up
11:33.19nocts-.-
11:33.25noctsI'm far from being a mod rookie, okay?
11:33.47noctsI don't want any of the features that bongos or bartender offer, except splitting the buttons/bars from their anchored point and allowing them to move.
11:34.09grimmanFlexbar!
11:34.14grimman/giggle
11:34.15Arrowmasterthey have other features?
11:34.28noctsAlpha/Sticky/etc etc etc.
11:34.44noctsFlexbar is nice. Still a lot of code that I'm not going to be using.
11:35.04Arrowmasterstop being a minimalist
11:35.14Arrowmasterthe extra code does nothing if your not using it
11:35.21noctsStop telling me how to choose mods.
11:35.38Arrowmasterfine, but i doubt youll ever find what you want
11:35.43noctsI did, thanks.
11:36.05noctshttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7319-BarKeep-20400.html - glad to see someone revived cleanbar
11:36.32Arrowmasterugg
11:36.41Arrowmasteri remember looking at the code for cleanbaradvanced
11:37.20noctsIt's received a rewrite.
11:37.29Arrowmasteri saw
11:37.31Arrowmasterit needed it
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11:37.33ArrowmasterBADLY
11:37.37noctsI don't like the xml, but it's still 8k and decently redone.
11:38.40Arrowmasternope it still sucks ass
11:39.07noctsIt works very well for me, thank you.
11:39.17Arrowmasterwell i hope you know its broken
11:39.45noctsO.o
11:39.48Arrowmasterif you use something like bugsack and disable the 'hide addon mistakes' option youll get spamed from that mod in combat
11:40.02vithoswait, wasn't that the addon that tried to SetPoints in OnUpdate every frame?
11:40.06Arrowmasteryes
11:40.08Arrowmasterit still does
11:40.12vithosoh my :(
11:40.17noctsFail. So close too.
11:40.18Arrowmasterlike nothing is rewriten
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11:41.09Arrowmasterbut really its just that whoever did this is a moron, a more experienced coder could rewrite this easyly
11:41.41grimmanlawl, even I could rewrite it.
11:41.47grimmanAnd I'm not experienced.
11:41.51CartasOh yeah?!
11:41.51Arrowmasterit uses a while loop
11:42.01noctsIt can't be hard to unanchor the default action buttons, can it?
11:42.16noctsWait, let me guess, secured?
11:42.23Arrowmasteryeah theyre secured
11:42.47Arrowmasterand not using templetes since they can do things we cant
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11:42.57Arrowmasterlike drag abilitys around incombat
11:43.48grimmanI'm glad they fixed the spellbook during combat. :P
11:44.26Arrowmasterthis person knows nothing about Lua
11:44.28ArrowmasterDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\[BarKeep:\]LOCKED.")
11:44.46Arrowmasterspot the error
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11:46.12Arrowmasteri seriously cant tell how this is suppost to be rewriten
11:46.30grimmanApart from the fact that he's escaping characters that don't need escaping? :P
11:46.46Arrowmaster\ isnt an escape in lua
11:47.02grimmanOh.
11:47.04grimman*shrug*
11:47.06noctsbongos3 is it for now, then
11:47.16Arrowmasterlua> "\[BarKeep:\]LOCKED."
11:47.16lua_botArrowmaster: [BarKeep:]LOCKED.
11:47.32Arrowmasterits really just an error
11:47.37Arrowmasterlua> "[BarKeep:]LOCKED."
11:47.38lua_botArrowmaster: [BarKeep:]LOCKED.
11:47.54Arrowmastersince you have to use \\ for \
11:48.24Arrowmasterbut \ isnt an escape for characters like that
11:51.47CIA-4203mfg * r75537 10StatBlocks_BankItems/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
11:51.47CIA-42StatBlocks_BankItems: initial commit
11:51.47CIA-42- StatBlocks for BankItems, providing the FuBar plugin functionality
11:52.22Arrowmasterhmm 8am, im going to bed
11:55.04XelopherisArrowmaster, I hate you
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12:05.38kalahassiarrowmaster, you got mail ;)
12:08.47SunTsuIsn't there a good mage equipment guide, especially frost spec out there? Like equipment rating and such
12:09.20SunTsuMost stuff I find is incomplete or seriously out dated
12:09.55Elkanoat least there is one for feral druids ^^
12:09.58SunTsu.o0( No, I don't want to wear the ring from a Stratholme quest for SSC, seriously )
12:10.12SunTsuElkano: I know ;) Druidwiki has great links
12:11.04SunTsuwarlock's den does this for warlocks, but for my mage I was not too lucky yet
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12:15.48kalahassiWAU 746 still crashing, is there a newer revision i didnt find yet? ;)
12:16.08CIA-4203mfg * r75538 10StatBlocks_BankItems/ (. embeds.xml):
12:16.08CIA-42StatBlocks_BankItems:
12:16.08CIA-42- fixed embeds.xml
12:17.27SunTsucheers for http://wow-europe.com/en/index.xml
12:17.40Elkano???
12:17.41SunTsuThe server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.
12:19.10SunTsu/de/index.xml works fine, /en/ does not
12:22.20AerrHm. So if i want a event to trigger on a buff fading from me, how would i go about labeling the spell to trigger the event
12:22.58Aerrthe combat log used to read "such and such fades from you"   now it says "Such and such fades from YOURPLAYERNAME"
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12:24.13charonnot sure if i got you right, but to catch the event you just register for COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, check that the sub-event is SPELL_AURA_REMOVED (and/or SPELL_AURA_DISPEL), if so check that the spell ID argument is what you are looking for
12:25.03CIA-4203archarodim * r75539 10Decursive/DCR_init.lua:
12:25.03CIA-42Decursive:
12:25.03CIA-42- Made an exception for Priest because of Blizzard traditional Chinese localization team they named two different spells the same: Devour Magic and Consume Magic.
12:25.23CIA-4203mfg * r75540 10StatBlocks_TimeInFight/ (4 files):
12:25.23CIA-42StatBlocks_TimeInFight: initial commit
12:25.23CIA-42- StatBlocks for showing the time you have been in combat and while not in combat what your longest combat-time was
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12:27.56CIA-4203mfg * r75541 10StatBlocks_TimeInFight/:
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12:27.56CIA-42- modified externals
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12:34.50noctsI don't remember if the default blizz maps shows combat state of the party/raid icons on the map, does it?
12:34.59noctsYes, yes. I could test, but on a different box right now.
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12:40.47ramozIt blinks if they are in combat
12:41.03noctsThankya
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12:59.30p3limhm whats best of the 3 trees while leveling a mage?
12:59.37StanzillaFrost imo
13:00.16|Kev|depends on your style
13:00.32|Kev|if you want the no-challenge, kill only lower level mobs and don't care about drinking style, go fire
13:00.50|Kev|if you want to not be drinking, or you want to kill harder mobs, or both, go frost :)
13:01.25p3lim:/
13:01.32p3limi like beeing fiery, but frost is imba
13:01.39p3limlike, pewpew :D
13:02.03|Kev|sure
13:02.14|Kev|I've levelled as arc/fire 1-60, and I've levelled 1-60 frost
13:02.19|Kev|60-70 I've only done fire
13:02.30|Kev|frost is less fun than it used to be, now there are fewer elites about
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13:02.50|Kev|frost is elite-farming spec, but it's hard to find elites to farm now :(
13:02.56p3limyap
13:03.05p3limtried the aoe farming thingy?
13:03.10p3limthat cant be fun :/
13:03.13|Kev|'the aoe farming thingy' :p
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13:03.18p3limyap :p
13:03.34|Kev|back on my first mage I aoe farmed sm:gy at about level 35/36 saving money for my mount
13:03.35p3limpull 20-30 mobs, aoe, then wait like 5 min until they respawn, repeat
13:03.46|Kev|but that was only a few at a time
13:03.56|Kev|and yeah, I've done that in wpl too, with a healer
13:04.02|Kev|no fun at all
13:04.02p3limwell.. solo
13:04.07|Kev|and really anti-social
13:04.12p3limtheres like a guide video
13:04.29p3limim gonna level a mage for fun, mostly beeing careface
13:04.35p3limlike 1 level / week
13:04.37p3lim:p
13:04.52vithoswow, 10 steady shots in a row, with no autos between
13:04.56vithosi love this game
13:05.17p3limlag?
13:05.24vithos62ms
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13:05.46p3limhm
13:05.50vithosi'm just messing with the 1.9 speed gun off gorefiend
13:06.00vithos+ 100 passive haste (6.34%)
13:06.02p3lim|Kev|: http://ctscreens.net/670 like that, just for 70 (80) levels straight :/
13:06.13p3limo lol
13:06.16p3limthat must be fast
13:06.40p3limattackspeed on ranged?
13:06.55vithos1.49 without DST or quickshots procs
13:07.09p3limlol
13:07.41vithos1.29 SQ
13:07.43vithosQS *
13:07.49vithos1.09 both
13:08.04p3lim-.-
13:08.08|Kev|p3lim: I'm at work, I'm not going to watch wow vids ;)
13:08.14p3limwouldnt it be better just carefacing the steady shots then? :p
13:08.19vithosit's quickshots that makes it chain steadies forever, at 1.29 speed
13:08.24p3limits a pic, not a vid
13:08.50|Kev|right - no fun at all :)
13:08.52p3limdoes the haste add to steady shot?
13:08.59|Kev|I mean, it's fun to do once, sure
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13:09.03|Kev|but twice is pushing it :)
13:09.06p3lim:p
13:09.22p3limi leveled a mage once, was fire until 30 then frost until 36
13:09.28vithosok now i'm SUPER fucking confused
13:09.33vithosmy steadies are slower with the faster gun
13:09.38p3limat 36 i seriously got pissed at the gnome race and deleted that mage
13:09.42p3lim(i hate gnomes)
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13:10.10vithos1.0 steadies with the black bow (3.0 speed -> 2.04)
13:10.13p3limhad like 200 spelldamage at that level, pure imba
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13:10.38vithos1.2 steadies with the gun (1.9 speed -> 1.49)
13:11.19Roblibobwont your steadies reset your autoshots hidden cooldown?
13:11.27Roblibobie loose dps
13:11.55vithosthere's supposed to be a 0.5 second cast time on autoshot
13:12.11vithosbut it's supposed to automatically "queue" specials and not clip, or so i thought
13:12.24vithosmaybe that's just for instants
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13:14.54vithosi just get the feeling, when i try to clip an auto i can't, and when i try not to i will.
13:17.18vithosare casters supposed to be able to precast spells that are the same length as the GCD, or just ones that are longer?
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13:46.20Wogroipl_you can precast instants as well
13:47.19Wogroipl_but you have to wait for GCD after an instant cast to start casting the next spell
13:51.19CIA-4203sayclub * r75542 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua:
13:51.19CIA-42GridStatusRaidDebuff:
13:51.19CIA-42- tweak
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14:21.01AckisWorkgood morning
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14:23.03Seerahmorning, Ackis.  Morning, funky :)
14:23.34trhdo we have a javascript-pro here? =)
14:23.47Funkeh`morning seerah :)
14:24.08tz8anyone ever tried to search for people without guild in the armory?
14:24.24Seerahno
14:24.26trhtz8: at least in the european armory it works fine
14:24.33tz8trh: how?
14:25.35trhtz8: quick search "characters" - enter character name.. 'search' finds some with the same charactername with guild and some without
14:25.46trhtz8: (at least when the armory itself works)
14:25.48dylanmtrh: I'm a little rusty, but do ask your javascript question.
14:26.27trhdylanm: let's say i have a <input type=text with a text inside that is partly selected, how can i find out on which character-index in the onmousedown event the user has clicked (in internet explorer, with ff .rangeOffset works fine) - in ie srcElement.createTextRange() and range.moveToPoint(event.x, event.y) don't work and document.selection (Which would be used to find the caret position) is no option, as there is already a selection
14:26.48tz8trh: that's not what i searched for... i'd like to search for guildless shamys ;)
14:27.05trhtz8: oh.. i understood the question differently =)
14:27.16tz8i figured ^^
14:27.38trhcurse of not having english as a native language ;)
14:27.41Seerahbest bet, tz8, would be to put a post on your realm forum or the guild recruitment forums
14:28.04grimmanI LOVE SpamSentry! <3
14:28.08Seerahtrh: it could have read both ways :)
14:28.21tz8trh: we share the same native languae :)
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14:28.37grimmanJust went past some troll in Org, it was waving its hands, doing the talk animation. But nothing showed up in chat... and it dawned on me, I haven't seen any goldspam at all since I installed it.
14:28.52tz8Seerah: both are active, but too many slackers don't frequent any forums...
14:29.01tz8trying to force them into their luck ;)
14:29.36Seerahjust as long as you don't become that guy that everyone hates for trying to recruit everyone that's guildless
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14:29.49Seerahsometimes they're guildless because they wish to be ;)
14:30.00Seerahor they really suck :P
14:30.10trhdylanm: no idea, or? =)
14:30.12Seerahor they're really stupid
14:30.24tz8Seerah: i found both in the last days... ;)
14:30.41Seerahhehe
14:32.06dylanmtrh: This is something you google. I thought it was .createRange, though.
14:32.49dylanm!g ie caret position
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14:33.03dylanmNoes :(
14:33.15trhdylanm: ya.. googled alot today.. like 6 hours.. didn't found a solution though.. only thing that looked like a solution was the moveToPoint, which unfortunately doesn't work in <input type="text" (find on text in document.body though)
14:33.30Brunersis there a mod that lets you sort by level for tradeskills?
14:33.42SunTsuBruners: Skillet
14:33.53trhdylanm: or to be more precise.. it works in a srcElement.createTextRange(), but after it the whole text is selected in the range
14:34.01dylanmtrh: http://www.bazon.net/mishoo/articles.epl?art_id=1292 this does not look promising?
14:34.17SunTsuBruners: Skillet lets you even make Queues for crafting and such
14:34.33trhdylanm: nope. doesn't work when a selection is active (uses the document.selection to find the caret position)
14:34.54dylanmUh, what does "caret position" mean if there's a selection
14:35.21trhdylanm: i'm not really sure.. but the .rangeOffset gives always the index at the time of the event
14:35.22dylanmOh you just care on onMouseDown, that's right.
14:36.01dylanmYeah I'd be digging as much as you at this point.
14:36.16trhdylanm: i basically want to make a own drag and drop handler (even for textfields)
14:36.24dylanmGotta walk the dog first though.
14:36.45trhdylanm: and to determine if the user wants to selection something new or wants to drag it'S necessary :(
14:36.47trhdylanm: hf =)
14:39.22tz8sweet, armorylite has the function i want... but not enough chars in it :(
14:39.24tz8http://armorylite.com/browse/eu/nozdormu/0/g
14:40.15elite3vilret pallys: stack str gems?
14:40.27SunTsutz8: You're from EU/Nozdormu?
14:40.50tz8i am, yes ^^
14:41.34SunTsuMe too
14:41.41tz8ally or horde?
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14:41.56SunTsuAlly and a single horde char, which rots ;)
14:42.04raven_rileyeww
14:42.13tz8same here ^^
14:42.23SunTsutz8: What's your main?
14:42.26tz8and if it rots, it's an undead ^^
14:42.32tz8striper, druid
14:42.35SunTsutz8: It is, indeed ;)
14:42.43raven_rileyerm, newb question, but what addons do in-game item stat comparisons?
14:42.44SunTsutz8: Rathragos, druid, too
14:42.57elite3vilRaven_riley: Ratings Buster
14:43.05SunTsuraven_riley: Rating Buster ;)
14:43.10raven_rileytouche
14:43.13raven_rileyty
14:43.13raven_riley:)
14:43.30elite3vilmakes things so much easier when something drops.
14:44.07SunTsuYeah, now that you don't even have to install EQCompar/Tekkompare but can merele press shift to compare
14:44.21elite3vilYeah
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14:44.42raven_rileyhmm
14:44.54raven_rileywell than
14:45.00raven_rileythats another addon i can shave off my list
14:45.18AeyanI still use the hovertips from tekkompare though
14:45.25elite3vilI still want one that'll scream at the holy pally in the raid if Wisdom isn't judged.
14:45.33SunTsuAeyan: So do I, but just because I am used to it
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14:48.24raven_rileysigh
14:48.30raven_rileyi hop we down RoS
14:48.33raven_rileyhope*
14:48.53elite3vilThe #2 guild on my server took 3 months to kill RoS.
14:49.02raven_rileylolwut
14:49.10elite3vilYeah.
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14:49.11elite3villol.
14:49.15raven_rileywe get to >10% phase2
14:49.19raven_rileyand we wipe
14:49.19raven_riley:(
14:49.57Aerrslow dps?
14:50.33raven_rileyahh
14:50.35raven_rileyundergeared
14:50.36raven_riley:
14:50.38raven_riley:( *
14:50.44CIA-4203mfg * r75545 10StatBlocks_TimeInFight/StatBlocks_TimeInFight.lua:
14:50.44CIA-42StatBlocks_TimeInFight:
14:50.44CIA-42- minor changes in comments
14:50.49raven_rileya bunch of the people that they recruited
14:50.57raven_rileyjumped from early ssc to BT
14:50.58raven_riley:x
14:51.02elite3villol.
14:51.12raven_rileyhey
14:51.14raven_rileyi still rock t4
14:51.16elite3vilI went from Kara gear to 4/8 t6 in two weeks :x
14:51.19AerrRaven_riley
14:51.26Aerri never stepped foot in ssc or tk
14:51.31Aerron this toon
14:51.32CIA-4203mfg * r75546 10StatBlocks_ClosetGnome/StatBlocks_ClosetGnome.lua:
14:51.32CIA-42StatBlocks_ClosetGnome:
14:51.33CIA-42- use TabletLib if it exists, else use standard tooltip
14:51.36Lyn_me went from middle ssc to sunwell ..
14:51.43raven_rileyouch
14:51.49raven_rileysadly
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14:51.55Aerrtbh ros is just a dps fight
14:52.00elite3vilYeah.
14:52.01raven_rileyi know it is
14:52.05Aerrgood enough melee dps= ez
14:52.18raven_rileywe are doing ssc/tk farm for a reset or two
14:52.23arpharazoni went from ssc/tk back to kara cos my guild switched to playing AoC :P
14:52.28raven_riley:x
14:52.41Aerri ran kara once
14:52.43Aerrthen went to bt
14:52.52raven_rileygot connections? :(
14:52.54WikwocketIs it common, or feasible, to go into BT/Hyjal with T4/badge gear and succeed?
14:52.55sbarpharazon: wait 3-4 weeks and they will be back :p
14:53.02arpharazontrue :P
14:53.14AerrWikwocket, we are 6/9 and 5/5
14:53.22SunTsuWikwocket: Badge gear isn't that bad
14:53.25Aerrbeen raiding about 2 months now
14:53.27Aerrfrom reroll
14:53.53elite3vilSunTsu: "Isn't that bad"? lol. It's better in some slots than BT gear.
14:54.05SunTsuelite3vil: That was what I aimed at ;)
14:54.06elite3vilHell, the badge axe is > my Cat's Edge
14:54.11elite3vilwhich makes me a sadpanda.
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14:54.17raven_rileywiki yes
14:54.27AerrBElf pally, elite3vil?
14:54.29elite3vilYeah.
14:54.32raven_rileyew ew ew ew
14:54.33Aerryerp
14:54.35raven_rileyBE :(
14:54.41raven_rileyruined the horde
14:54.43elite3vilI'm my guild's retholytankadin
14:54.44Aerrour pally got cats edge, replaced it next day with the axe
14:54.59Aerroh, our MT is a pally
14:54.59SunTsuelite3vil: Wikwocket made it look like BoJ-Gear was sub par, which it isn't
14:55.00AerrxD
14:55.12elite3vilAerr: Yeah, I can't justify spending the badges on it when I'm next up for the Felspine
14:55.13raven_rileyi need my t5 :(
14:55.42CIA-4203mfg * r75547 10StatBlocks_FPS/StatBlocks_FPS.lua:
14:55.42CIA-42StatBlocks_FPS:
14:55.42CIA-42- added a config option to change the update-intervall of the FPS display
14:55.55raven_rileyactaully
14:55.57Aerrraven_riley, wish i could go back to get mine
14:55.59AerrxD
14:56.04raven_rileyheh
14:56.10raven_rileymy guild is going to go back to get me mine
14:56.11raven_riley:D
14:56.19raven_riley10% dmg to starfire
14:56.21raven_rileyNOM NOM NOM
14:56.26Aerrhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil%27jaeden&n=Aerr
14:56.38AerrGG at not even exalted violet eye
14:56.42raven_rileyhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Jeubus
14:56.56elite3vilhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Taladris
14:57.23elite3vilI'm gonna switch my crit gems to str today... as soon as I -/lazy
14:57.42raven_rileyi hate having to stack dmg :(
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14:58.24elite3viler, actually I only have to change the one in my chest
14:58.34raven_rileyhow is haste working out for moonkins?
14:58.36elite3vilneed the other two for my meta.. maybe change those to pyrestones or something.
14:58.40noctshttp://pastey.net/88697 - Why does line 11 and 12 work as a script in-game, but the lua itself does not?
14:58.45raven_rileybecause from what i gather from the forums
14:58.55raven_rileythey are ~=
14:58.59raven_rileystat wise :x
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14:59.19Aerrraven_riley, heres a boomkin for ya  http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil'jaeden&n=Rueful
14:59.56Punkienocts: are you files actually correct?
15:00.38noctsC:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\MCast     -   MCast.lua in toc     -  MCast.toc file
15:00.39raven_rileylol
15:00.42raven_rileyfuck rueful
15:00.52AerrxD
15:00.54raven_rileymadrox > *
15:00.55raven_riley:P
15:01.01raven_rileyspeaking of madrox
15:01.06Punkienocts: and your toc is right?
15:01.07raven_rileyi need to get their vent info :(
15:01.39AerrRueful's 1429 unbuffed +dmg is scary
15:01.46raven_rileytrue
15:01.59raven_rileybut i still hate his ego
15:02.00raven_riley:P
15:02.01noctsPunkie: Only 5 lines in it. Interface, Title, Notes, Author,   and then  MCast.lua
15:02.12Aerroh, you know of him?
15:02.17raven_rileyoh i do
15:02.20Aerrhaha
15:02.24raven_rileyi lurk on the druid forums
15:02.24raven_riley:P
15:02.27Aerrhes really not as bad as you think
15:02.31raven_rileyeh
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15:02.42Aerrhes fun as hell to pvp with
15:02.46elite3vilbleh.
15:02.47raven_rileyall those fucking posts on the forums about his +dmg is *yawN*
15:02.49raven_rileylol i bet
15:03.22elite3vilWhy do people yell and scream in AV /bg chat
15:03.32elite3vilI don't understand it, it's not like people actually listen to them.
15:03.41ToadkillerIn other news water is still wet
15:03.44raven_rileyi just want them to figure out the haste dilemma
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15:04.40raven_rileysince for FLCC it seems that dmg > crit/haste
15:04.51raven_rileyat hit cap of course
15:04.55CIA-4203mfg * r75548 10StatBlocks_ClosetGnome/StatBlocks_ClosetGnome.lua:
15:04.55CIA-42StatBlocks_ClosetGnome:
15:04.55CIA-42- fixed the last fix
15:05.06raven_rileywhich doesn't really make sense to myself
15:05.11durcynthere's no dilemma.  with the gcd change, at least for pve, haste is useful up to ~615
15:05.18raven_rileybecause you only gain
15:05.32AeyanI know for shadow priests, 1 haste rating = 1 dmg at around 1400 shadow and just improves from there
15:05.37raven_rileyyea
15:05.57Aerri lol @ the warlocks that start stacking hast at 1200
15:05.59Aerr>.>
15:06.04raven_rileywe already get a %haste
15:06.09raven_riley20% haste buff
15:06.10AeyanI'd assume something similar for boomkin, but I don't know solid numbers
15:06.24Aerrhes like "but i have such and such +dmg flasked and buffed"
15:06.24AeyanPlus, their spells can actually crit =P
15:06.34raven_rileywell... they talk about stacking haste:dmg at 1077 1:1
15:06.50Aerrbut damage is easier to get
15:06.54Aerrthen haste
15:06.59raven_rileyi mean
15:07.04raven_rileyi would just gem for haste/dmg
15:07.14Aerrya, prolly
15:07.15raven_rileysince its /almost/ 1:1 ratio
15:07.33raven_rileybut I don't really think that i would gain anything over all with haste
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15:07.58Aerrwhen i raided felgaurd on my lock i was able to accomplish 1700dps on gorefiend by stacking +dmg and haste
15:08.03AerrxD
15:08.09raven_rileywith my understanding on what they are saying
15:08.09noctshttp://pastey.net/88697 - Why does line 11 and 12 work as a script in-game, but the lua itself does not?
15:08.32AerrRavenriley, haste scales with your gear
15:08.48Aerris really whats being implyed
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15:09.09raven_rileyhmm
15:09.12Aerrfind the right balance, and its golden. spreadsheet spreadsheet spreadsheet
15:09.20raven_rileytrue
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15:09.53Aerrwith my ddarkmoon card up and full buffs i was at 1700 or so +dmg with 220 haste
15:10.04Aerrand that worked better then anything i've tryed with demo
15:10.12Aerrdont be afraid to plug odd numbers in
15:10.19Aerr:)
15:11.24raven_rileylol
15:11.39raven_rileyfully buffed i think i'd break about 1400 ;x
15:11.50elite3vilI'm hovering around 1600
15:11.58raven_rileymaybe 1500
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15:12.14Aerrunbuffed im around 1420 or so
15:12.21raven_riley:x
15:12.21sacarascwith my darkmoon card and full buffs, i'm at about 700 +dmg
15:12.30Aerrlolz
15:12.31raven_riley:x
15:12.38sacarasci'm an enhancement shaman though ;p
15:12.41raven_rileywell...
15:12.41GeeksI had my darkmoon crusaders card for a week beofre I replaced both trinkets <gasp> heh
15:12.47raven_riley=x
15:12.52raven_rileyi want the hexlord
15:12.55Aerrhex shrunken head and darkmoon card
15:13.01raven_rileybut the fucking locks
15:13.06raven_rileyare loot whores
15:13.08Aerri got server first hsh way back
15:13.17Seerahahh, Kolie, what did Kaelten get you into? ;)
15:13.18raven_riley,|,,
15:13.34Kolieoh the usual.
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15:13.52raven_rileyi just dont see how haste doesn't wreck a moonkins rotation even farther from what it is now
15:13.59SeerahI just read that you've taken over WAU.  Good luck :)  Don't let some people on the wowace forums get you down
15:14.16Aerrraven_riley
15:14.18AerrGCD
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15:14.47KolieOh they cant bother me.
15:14.50raven_rileytrue, but the only
15:14.58raven_rileyerm
15:15.01raven_rileyarg
15:15.08Geeksgrr
15:15.10KolieIm mostly just here to keep it running, I have no plans for large feature implementation atm.
15:15.16AckisWorkKolie, that sounds like a challenge
15:15.19raven_rileyokay, aerr
15:15.25Seerahbehave, ackis ;)
15:15.27raven_rileyi dont really worry about GCD as it is
15:15.27Snagonocts: It works, but the position gets reset after the code runs. You need to wait for an event (PLAYER_LOGIN iirc) before you change the position
15:15.35raven_rileythe only time i ever am affected by it
15:15.41AckisWorklol Kolie knows i'm a good person :P
15:15.47raven_rileyis when i cock up my idol switch macro
15:15.48KolieAckis is my buddy.
15:15.59durcynAckis eats puppies.
15:16.04AckisWork^
15:16.07raven_rileyalso
15:16.09AckisWorkand babies
15:16.14Aerrraven_riley, whats wrath cast time
15:16.18raven_riley1.5
15:16.31raven_riley3 for sf
15:16.45AckisWorkckknight: kick ackis from the channel please (not me, Ackis)... I want everyone to have a laugh when the auto-rejoin kicks in
15:16.58*** kick/#wowace [Ackis!n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight] by ckknight (ckknight)
15:17.09AckisWorkassuming it's on...
15:17.12raven_riley:x
15:17.13raven_rileygg
15:17.14CartasThat was funny.
15:17.15durcynclever lad.
15:17.17AckisWorklol
15:17.17elite3villol.
15:17.17StanzillaAckisWork: fail
15:17.18AckisWorkfails
15:17.20raven_rileybashed!
15:17.21ckknightI lol'd
15:17.21Kolieis not amused.
15:17.21raven_riley:P
15:17.32Aerrravenriley, if you add haste to wrath, wouldnt it help to lower GCD as well
15:17.45AckisWorki'm speachless
15:17.47raven_rileythe only time i spam wrath is on trash
15:17.49raven_rileytbh
15:18.13Dark_Elfslow auto rejoin
15:18.14raven_rileyother wise im keeping up impFF/mf/sfx4
15:18.30raven_rileyfor boss fights
15:18.30AckisWorkI think it's off
15:18.33AckisWork=/
15:18.53raven_riley.comfort
15:19.15noctsSnago: Gotcha, thanks!
15:19.26AckisWorkanyways, purl has a nice message when ackis joins the channel :(
15:19.30Dark_Elfauto rejoin must of been drycoded :p
15:19.41AckisWorkwow head shot
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15:21.36raven_rileyAerr: either way i assume i would still be doing the same amount of dmg
15:21.43raven_rileysince i would be limited by my mpool anyways
15:21.50Aerrinnervate
15:21.53Aerrpots
15:22.04raven_riley:x
15:22.10raven_rileyi awlays have ot rez healers or a caster
15:22.16raven_rileyso i usually toss them my innervate
15:22.38raven_rileypots
15:22.55raven_rileyi usualy chug a pot ever CD
15:23.16raven_rileystarting at around 70-80%
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15:23.24CIA-4203silmano * r75549 10ShamanWarning/ (ShamanWarning.lua ShamanWarning.toc):
15:23.25CIA-42ShamanWarning:
15:23.25CIA-42- Updated to ACE3!
15:23.25CIA-42- Added GUI options under addons tab
15:23.28AckisWorkhttp://ackis.myminicity.com <-- best webpage ever imo :P
15:23.50raven_rileyhttp://www.lemonparty.org Fixt
15:23.53raven_riley:p
15:24.10raven_rileyi haven't been really mana starved yet
15:24.20raven_rileythough i will run out of mana if i have to brez late in a fight
15:24.28AckisWorkone page is sfw, one page is not :P
15:24.29Aerrraven, tell them to stop getting themselved killed
15:24.38raven_rileyand won't be able to get a pot in before downing
15:24.49raven_rileyoh yea
15:24.55raven_rileythat really isnt SFW
15:24.56raven_riley:x
15:25.00raven_rileysorry mate
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15:25.01Aerralmost all deaths by healers can be avoided
15:25.01*** mode/#wowace [+v Kolie] by ChanServ
15:25.05Kolieets
15:25.07raven_rileyagreed
15:25.10AckisWorkwb Kolie
15:25.12raven_rileybut we like to tank fires
15:25.13raven_rileyso
15:25.14KolieThat was fun.
15:25.15raven_riley:(
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15:25.26raven_rileyhey
15:25.28raven_rileyhell*
15:25.33AckisWorkI thought the lemon party link scared you
15:25.46raven_rileyim the only person in the raid who knows how to fucking decurse
15:25.47ckknightAckisWork: I think I built a factory?
15:25.55raven_rileyand we bring 3 mages :x
15:26.00AckisWorkyay! I'll get to work on your house ck!
15:26.12raven_rileybtw
15:26.23raven_rileyhow do you calc the mp5 from a SP?
15:27.21raven_riley200-350mp5?
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15:27.48ckknightAckisWork: and police force, apparently
15:28.14AckisWorklol sweet :D
15:28.36raven_rileywow
15:29.05WikwocketSP regen varies a lot with their +damage, skill, and the fight
15:29.19AeyanThere is no boom in oom.
15:29.57AckisWorkthere's oom in boom though
15:30.23AeyanOf course
15:30.58raven_rileyi know
15:30.59raven_riley:(
15:31.05AeyanI was just thinking of that old comic contest entry
15:31.08raven_rileykicks aeyan
15:31.12raven_riley:P
15:31.12raven_rileySTOP IT
15:31.14raven_riley:(
15:31.19raven_rileyi swear im not OOM!!!
15:31.20Aeyanhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#166
15:31.22raven_riley>.> <.<
15:31.24AeyanI believe it was that one =P
15:31.42CIA-4203mfg * r75550 10StatBlocks_BankItems/StatBlocks_BankItems.lua:
15:31.42CIA-42StatBlocks_BankItems:
15:31.42CIA-42- made TabletLib optional
15:31.42raven_rileyescuse me
15:31.48raven_rileyim going to go cry in my corner
15:32.11sacaraschave fun
15:32.46CIA-4203silmano * r75551 10ShamanWarning/ (. ShamanWarning.lua ShamanWarning.toc):
15:32.46CIA-42ShamanWarning:
15:32.46CIA-42- Updated to ACE3!
15:32.46CIA-42- Fixed minor problems.
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15:33.19raven_riley*sniffs*
15:33.21raven_rileyokay
15:34.00raven_rileyhmm
15:34.09raven_rileyi wish armory worked
15:34.46AeyanWould be nice
15:34.57Xinhuanbut it does work?
15:35.05sacarascus armory is broken?
15:35.14Xinhuanworks for me
15:35.32CIA-4203mfg * r75552 10StatBlocks_BankItems/:
15:35.32CIA-42StatBlocks_BankItems:
15:35.32CIA-42- fixed externals
15:36.10AeyanWorks for me
15:36.17AeyanJust slow and a little buggy, per usual
15:36.37Xinhuanits instant loading within 3-5 secs if you use firefox3 RC1
15:36.46AeyanAs I do
15:36.46Xinhuanno lag or delays unlike using firefox 2
15:37.20nevcairieldid they finally fix tooltips for fx3?
15:37.37AeyanNo, you still need to tweak the about:config
15:37.38Xinhuandidn't see any issues
15:37.50Xinhuanthere was an issue with the tooltips?
15:37.56nevcairielthey dont show at all
15:37.57AckisWorkXinhuan: your comments about bigwigs_kalecgoshealth last night -> weren't they fixed?
15:38.02Xinhuanbut they work for me
15:38.06nevcairielunless you tweak your config to report a fx2 user-agent
15:38.06Xinhuanand i didn't tweak anything
15:38.15Xinhuannope, i did not tweak anything
15:38.23Xinhuani installed ff3 2 days ago
15:38.24nevcairielapparently thats fixed
15:38.26nevcairielworks here now
15:38.27AeyanI'll double check real quick
15:38.37nevcairielyeah blizz must've fixed that
15:38.54Xinhuani even "stressed tested" it kind of, by opening the armory of 8 people at the same time
15:39.01Xinhuanno hang, almost no lag either
15:39.28AeyanDamn it, still broken on mine
15:39.34nevcairielyeah fx3 owns on ajax pages
15:39.39AeyanNot too surprised though
15:39.44Wikwocketarmorylite.com :)
15:39.45AeyanI use a CE version
15:39.49AeyanAlways a little buggy
15:39.55nevcairieljust get the real RC1
15:39.58nevcairielworks like a charm
15:40.00AeyanMeh =P
15:40.30Xinhuanonly thing is, no google toolbar plugin for it yet, nor most of the othe rplugins
15:40.31nevcairielanyway, shower and diner time, bbl
15:40.42nevcairielgoogle toolbar is useless imho
15:40.46nevcairielsearch-box is all you need
15:40.57Xinhuanits alright for quick access to the other parts of google
15:41.02Xinhuanmail, newsgroups,
15:41.13Xinhuanand feeds
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16:09.54Pkekyo|g'morning ladies...anyone familliar with phpBB stuff here?
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16:13.14AckisWorkhttp://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1232/1210300064121rv8ej8.jpg lol
16:13.29Pkekyo|comeon peoples, get teh forum smarts ;>
16:13.39Pkekyo|lmao AckisWork
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16:14.25kappaccinodamn AckisWork
16:14.32kappaccinothat's some nice HD display he got there
16:14.35kappaccinowhat resolution is that ?
16:14.42Pkekyo|you tossers write way too much when I'm at school :p
16:14.48Pkekyo|kappaccino: 1x1
16:14.54AckisWorkrofl
16:15.03kappaccinooh and the FASTRA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnIvodB2RzU
16:15.13profalbertreallife. good graphics, but crappy content ;)
16:15.19Pkekyo|indeed
16:15.37kappaccinono save points either
16:15.53kappaccinoyou die, you lose :(
16:16.00AckisWorktry alt-F4ing
16:16.37silentiumand the money system sucks, in all other reasonable games your money keeps rising easily
16:16.56digmousethe full name of RBM?
16:17.14ZyndromeRBM
16:17.15Zyndromethat's it
16:17.26digmousenothing for the R? O.o
16:17.45profalbertnothing for the BM either ;)
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16:17.55digmouseR(what) Boss Mods?
16:18.16digmouseO_o
16:18.23ZyndromeReally Big Mod
16:18.24Zyndromehurr hurr
16:18.44digmouseya, REALLY BIG
16:21.32kappaccinolol
16:21.38Pkekyo|damn...bandaging your arm is harder than it sounds :/
16:21.51kappaccinoyou fail
16:21.58Pkekyo|fakkaff
16:22.11kappaccinodid you get your skill to 275 first aid at least?
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16:22.28kappaccinoyou need more practice
16:22.55Pkekyo|I tend to get hurt so bad that other people have to tend to me rather than myself, so haven't gotten alot of practice in bandaging, no :p
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16:27.20CIA-4203Zarni * r75553 10Procodile/ (Procodile.lua locale/enUS.lua): Procodile: removed instance only option, addeed watching of a few weapon enchantments
16:27.24Beherithi there, anyone can gimme a hint on starting a simple timer in in example countdown from x to 0
16:27.50Pkekyo|NO
16:27.53dylanmBeherit: OnUpdate.
16:28.02Pkekyo|ok, someone could :p
16:28.12Pkekyo|goes off to troll somewhere else for a while
16:28.18Beheritdylanm thx
16:32.31Pkekyo|~dict reenactment
16:32.46Pkekyo|~dict reenact
16:32.59Pkekyo|~dict 2 reenact
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16:33.07Pkekyo|~dict 3 reenact
16:33.12Pkekyo|~dict 4 reenact
16:33.18Pkekyo|~dict 5 reenact
16:33.35kadrahilrevest
16:33.40AckisWork~lart Pkekyo|
16:33.40purlexecutes killall -TERM Pkekyo|
16:34.02Pkekyo|~whalecrit AckisWork
16:34.02purlACTION crits AckisWork with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. AckisWork dies
16:34.10AckisWork:P
16:34.37Pkekyo|whalecrit > all
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16:44.34Silviu-Need a lightweight totem timer ! :P
16:44.44Silviu-Anyone have some suggestions ?
16:45.22Ordoguse the build in one ?
16:45.26AckisWorkwtb murky pet pst :P
16:46.05Silviu-Ordog o.O ? :D
16:46.18Silviu-Blizz have a totem timer ?
16:46.23Ordogyep
16:46.30Silviu-Where ? ;)
16:46.37Ordogshown below your unitframe
16:46.37Elkanocame with 2.4 iirc
16:46.49Silviu-hmm
16:46.56Silviu-I use ouf :(
16:47.02Ordoguse pitbull
16:47.03Ordog^^
16:47.15Silviu-They are too bloated sorry :(
16:47.56Ordogwell .. if you can live with the "ordinary" its not needed ye :P
16:49.25Silviu-I should look or maybe try to code some small addon for totem timers only :)
16:51.13EvilJohn-classtimers might do what you need
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16:55.43raven_rileyfuck
16:55.47raven_rileyi hate BM hunters
16:59.33Zyndromeand I hate the fact that no one in this house cares about that 2 out of the 3 phones disconnect me from internets
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17:03.20RaydenUniinteresting
17:03.28RaydenUnii didn't see the huge spriest nerf in the expansion
17:03.31RaydenUni2% mana rege
17:03.32RaydenUniregen
17:07.17AckisWorkwhere did you see this?
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17:08.17RaydenUnizen of design
17:08.37RaydenUniwww.zenofdesign.com
17:08.45RaydenUnilatest post
17:10.00Pkekyo|you know something people doesn't talk about in public anymore?
17:10.03Pkekyo|pussyfarts....
17:10.11RaydenUnianymore?
17:10.13RaydenUnithey used to?
17:10.40Pkekyo|:P
17:11.11Pkekyo|oh hai RaydenUni
17:11.16Pkekyo|haven't seen you 'round for ages
17:11.29RaydenUniyeah
17:11.38RaydenUnischool ended a week ago and then i went to maine with a friend
17:11.54RaydenUnigot lots of wow in
17:11.56RaydenUnibut not much irc
17:12.06Pkekyo|lucky sod
17:12.13RaydenUnimy durid is now 70 and should be crit immune
17:12.13Pkekyo|yet another three weeks for me
17:12.19Pkekyo|and I'm at the verge of dropping out :/
17:12.22RaydenUniouch
17:12.42RaydenUnibachelor's?
17:12.48Pkekyo|nah
17:12.59Pkekyo|haven't gotten that far yet
17:13.04RaydenUnihighschool?
17:13.08Pkekyo|and won't for a long, long time it seems
17:13.14RaydenUnifinish highschool
17:13.20Pkekyo|well, not US highschool, but yes highschool
17:13.50RaydenUniwhere are you from?
17:13.55Pkekyo|norway
17:14.18Pkekyo|it's more like 1,5 years worth of US highschool and 1.5 years worth of US college...or something like that :p
17:14.31RaydenUnioh right norway
17:14.35Pkekyo|aye
17:14.46RaydenUninever been there :)
17:14.53RaydenUnii am partly norwegian though
17:15.07RaydenUnii'm doing my master's right now, so i think you should finish :P
17:15.16RaydenUnibut if it doesn't work then it doesn't work i guess
17:15.20Pkekyo|half of america is 'partly norwegian' x)
17:16.26RaydenUnione quarter
17:16.27RaydenUniso more than most
17:16.39RaydenUnigrandmother came over on a boat that sank off the coast of canada :D
17:16.52Pkekyo|heh
17:17.01Pkekyo|loads of norwegianesque arsehats in canada as well
17:17.38RaydenUniso you know anything about druids?
17:17.48Pkekyo|well, leveling one nowadays :p
17:17.55Pkekyo|once had a lvl 150 one x)
17:17.58RaydenUni415 defense to be crit immune
17:18.01RaydenUniwhich is 2.6%
17:18.01Pkekyo|aye
17:18.08RaydenUnii have 401 def and some res
17:18.15Pkekyo|but only with the talent I can't ever remember the fucking name of
17:18.24RaydenUniso that's 2.0% from defense and 0.8% from resilience
17:18.29Pkekyo|you'll have to see someone else for the numbercrunching :p
17:18.30RaydenUniwhich should be over the 2.6% right?
17:19.06Pkekyo|I'm barely passing maths as it is, nor have I above average insight in how stats and their mechanics are calculated :p
17:19.18RaydenUnihttp://www.armory-light.com/us/Eitrigg/Petahoof
17:19.27RaydenUnithe math for this stuff is weird
17:19.31Pkekyo|petahoof?
17:19.35RaydenUnihow you can push one thing off the chart
17:19.39RaydenUniyeah?
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17:20.13RaydenUnigood thing i logged off in tank gear
17:20.38Pkekyo|peta...isn't that that PITA organization that throws paint on dongjobs wearing fur etc?
17:20.47RaydenUnipeople for the ethical treatment of animals
17:20.54RaydenUnididn't think about that when i made the char
17:21.04RaydenUnisomeone was asking me if i like animals "uh... i guess so why?"
17:21.05RaydenUnirofl
17:21.10Pkekyo|x)
17:21.15RaydenUnii wanted Gigahoof but it was taken so i took the next number, peta
17:21.21Pkekyo|lol
17:21.26RaydenUnimuch nerdier
17:21.27Pkekyo|my shammy's named Beefhoof
17:21.37Pkekyo|my Druid's named Ibringbeef
17:21.43Pkekyo|and my hunter's named Beefybeast
17:21.44Pkekyo|:p
17:21.54Pkekyo|as you might've noticed, I like beef
17:21.59RaydenUnimy professor has a female BE named Sweetmeat
17:22.05Fisker-go towards the light Pkekyo|
17:22.05Stanzillaand I hope you don't play on a RP server :P
17:22.12Pkekyo|mine's named Smellyelf :p
17:22.18Fisker-DO IT
17:22.18Pkekyo|(that one's on an RP server)
17:22.23RaydenUnii just moved petahoof from destromath (pvp) to eitrigg (pve)
17:22.25RaydenUnipve is so weird
17:22.30Pkekyo|Fisker-: just some tosser with a flashlight
17:22.47RaydenUni"ooh, there is an alliance farming in this area, i'll just tell him to bugger off... oh wait i have no leverage"
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17:22.52Fisker-damn Pkekyo|
17:23.00Pkekyo|Fisker-: better luck next time
17:23.26Fisker-one of these days i'll make it happen
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17:24.20Pkekyo|dream on
17:24.24Pkekyo|I'm here to stay
17:24.29Pkekyo|if naught but to annoy you :)
17:24.49Fisker-my power level is actually over 9000
17:24.59Kolienine thoussssannndd!
17:24.59RaydenUniaw
17:25.01Pkekyo|not unlike your mom
17:25.02RaydenUnii only have 47
17:25.16Pkekyo|not unlike your mom
17:26.57RaydenUniwoah
17:27.00CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75554 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
17:27.01CIA-42Babble-2.2:
17:27.01CIA-42- Update zhTW localization.
17:27.03RaydenUniwow is telling people theys hould upgrade flash
17:27.19Fisker-nah
17:27.24Fisker-wow is telling people to kill other people
17:27.36profalbertso the flash bug is fixed finally?
17:27.50CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75555 10BigWigs_EredarThreat/ (BigWigs_EredarThreat.lua BigWigs_EredarThreat.toc):
17:27.50CIA-42BigWigs_EredarThreat:
17:27.50CIA-42- Update zhTW localization.
17:27.51Fisker-been for 2 months or so
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17:28.08RaydenUniso there is a green cloak that is an upgrade for my kitty
17:28.10RaydenUnithis makes me sad
17:28.22profalbertwe're not talking about the same bug I think
17:28.27Fisker-yes we are
17:28.28CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75556 10BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/ (BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.lua BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.toc):
17:28.28CIA-42BigWigs_KalecgosHealth:
17:28.28CIA-42- Update zhTW localization.
17:28.30nevcairielupgrade from what? =P
17:28.34Pkekyo|pats RaydenUni
17:28.36profalbertaha
17:28.54CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75557 10BigWigs_TwinsSay/ (BigWigs_TwinsSay.lua BigWigs_TwinsSay.toc):
17:28.54CIA-42BigWigs_TwinsSay:
17:28.54CIA-42- Update zhTW localization.
17:29.34CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75558 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/ (BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua BigWigs_VashjFFA.toc):
17:29.34CIA-42BigWigs_VashjFFA:
17:29.34CIA-42- Update zhTW localization.
17:29.39RaydenUnii have Perfectly Balanced Cape
17:29.51RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=25712
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17:29.56RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10223
17:29.58RaydenUnicape from that quest
17:29.59Fisker-yeah
17:30.03Fisker-i scared profalbert
17:30.10Fisker-high five nevcairiel
17:30.26nevcairielso you are sad that there is a better green cape as your l63 reward? =P
17:30.43CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75559 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:
17:30.43CIA-42LibBabble-Boss-3.0:
17:30.43CIA-42- Update zhTW localization.
17:30.49*** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Kolie now maintains WAU against bitrot, forward support inqueries to him in #wau | WAU 1.9.46.739 was compiled wrong, anyone who had it please manually reinstall. Old clients should update automatically.
17:31.12KolieIm in the topic :P
17:31.32nevcairielso whats with Curse Client?
17:31.44KolieWhat do you mean?
17:31.50nevcairielI heard rumors it was so awesome, we wouldnt need WAU anymore
17:32.00KolieIt may just be.
17:32.08Kaeltenright now it barely compiles though
17:32.11Kaelten;)
17:32.14nevcairielheh
17:32.17KolieTell me what makes it "so awsome, we wouldnt need WAU anymore" and it may just have it.
17:32.23nevcairieldunno
17:32.26nevcairieli think you said that
17:32.28KolieHey it compiles under three compilers, on windows, mac, and linux.
17:32.29RaydenUninevcairiel yeah :D
17:32.31digmouseI use both WAU and CC
17:32.40Kaeltenhehe
17:32.48nevcairielKolie: so does a hello world :)
17:32.55NeoTrondoes anyone have armory links to MT prot tanks in SWP guilds? want to check talents out a bit
17:33.04digmousethey covered almost everything :D
17:33.24KolieCan a hello world download wow packages and dependencies and install them, also allowing uninstall, from wowace and curse?
17:33.34nevcairielNeoTron: let me check if our MT is prot speced right now
17:33.44nevcairielKolie: yeah
17:33.50Koliekills nevcairiel.
17:33.56Kaelten~lark Kolie
17:34.01Kaelten~lart Kolie
17:34.01purldoes a little 'dpkg -P Kolie' action
17:34.01nevcairielNeoTron: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Tatjanai
17:34.02Kaeltenbah
17:34.44nevcairielNeoTron: he is wearing his off-set though .. but talents are there ;)
17:34.55NeoTrondont' care about gear :P
17:35.00NeoTronjust curious on a few points
17:35.18AckisWorkthe question is, does CC print out Hello World?
17:35.19NeoTronhad a prot tank do 1500 dps on gorefiend and curious why our other prot tank does like half that
17:35.25Kolie~emulate kolie
17:35.26purlNo one loves me.
17:35.29Koliehahaha
17:35.36Kaelten~lart purl
17:35.36purlaccelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets kaelten feel it
17:35.50nevcairielHm, talent tooltips are still broken on the armory with fx3
17:36.03Fisker-damnit nevcairiel
17:36.09Fisker-call it FF so i can correct you
17:36.21nevcairielFiskerFox!
17:36.50DashkalRofl!
17:36.55NeoTronI suspect reduced rage cost on HS and devastate is part of it..
17:37.54nevcairielspeccing it for devastate is a must
17:38.02nevcairielHS however .. dunno
17:38.08NeoTronI meant imp devastate
17:38.14NeoTronthe cost reduction
17:38.19NeoTronand eu armory isn't agreeing with me
17:38.39NeoTronah had to restart the request
17:38.57nevcairielimp sunder armor and defiance reduce devastate cost
17:39.01RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=31186#comments how much should i pay for this?
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17:39.04RaydenUnii have staff of beasts
17:39.05Fisker-nevcairiel i will find you and admire you
17:39.06nevcairieler
17:39.08nevcairielnot defiance
17:39.09PrimerAnyone know off hand how I can have an "if stealthed" conditional in a macro?
17:39.14nevcairielfocused rage =P
17:39.14RaydenUnihttp://www.emmerald.net/Bear_Mitigation/Two_Hand.html
17:39.19RaydenUniStaff of slumber
17:39.20Primer/cast [stealthed] foo  ?
17:39.27nevcairielPrimer: [stealth:1]
17:39.27Kulaar[SW]Dodge just got an error when trying to show the "SpellAnchor"
17:39.31Primernevcairiel: thanks
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17:39.43NeoTronso our MT doesn't have imp sunder
17:40.04NeoTronseems like that could have a quite significant difference on threat gen too
17:40.11nevcairielRaydenUni: meh i would just wait
17:40.20nevcairielyou get good staffs soon enough
17:40.38KulaarModules\Button_Manager.lua:245: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'buttonSpacing' (a nil value) @ [SW]Dodge
17:40.40RaydenUnigoing to get earthwarden asap
17:40.43RaydenUnii just hit revered though
17:41.01RaydenUnigives me +543 armor and -64hp
17:41.28nevcairielNeoTron: depends on the rage levels, but saying that, i have no idea how much rage you get on teron
17:42.05NeoTronthis is in general too i guess
17:42.19NeoTronseems like a useful thing when tanking, but only if you have in sufficient rage I guess
17:42.38NeoTronwish there was a way to see how rage levels are throughout a fight
17:43.13NeoTronesp then imp sunder since devastate is spammable
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17:45.56digmouseanyway to link abilities that I dont have?e.g I'm a hunter but wanna link some mage spells to chat
17:46.27Wogroipl_you can ask a mage to link you the spell, then you can relink it
17:46.28cladhaireyes, just create the hyperlinks to the spell ids
17:46.44digmousesounds complicated
17:47.06Industrialcrap
17:47.13Industrialdoes teamspeak2 run on linux?
17:47.14Industrialbet not
17:47.23hasteit does
17:47.25Stanzillathere's a linux version
17:47.31Industrialk
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17:50.50digmousewhat is the format of a spell hyperlink?
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17:52.56sbwtb teamspeak3 :o
17:53.09nevcairielts3 has been in dev for what? 10 years?
17:53.19sbhmm yes :/
17:53.31Wogroipl_must be good when they release it then :P
17:53.41sblike DN4E?
17:53.46Cheads_doubt that will ever happen =)
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17:58.14buuIs there any inherent limit on how many action buttons you have?
17:59.38Fisker-DNF is being released soon >(
17:59.39Fisker-:)
18:00.54digmousebuu: the number is 120 but can be extended to almost unlimited by the 2.3 new API
18:01.01digmousesee Trinity Bars 2
18:01.27buuOh.
18:01.39buuIs that why BT3 only supports 10 bars?
18:02.17ulicmaybe it was developed before 2.3 and not modified to support more?
18:02.28Industriallets see, 10*12 = 120
18:02.31ulicpeople really need more than 120 buttons though?
18:02.34Industrialyep
18:03.05ulicI'd go crazy if I had that many buttons I think.
18:03.24ulicbut I defenitly agree not everyone is like me :)
18:03.38buuulic: Well, 25 for geist, 30 or so for random stuff, and then an action bar for caster/cat/stealth/bear and so forth
18:04.02buuSpellbinder can't change binds based on forms =[
18:04.13digmousebindpad
18:04.29buuCan that?
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18:07.32CIA-4203feithar * r75560 10FBagOfHolding/ (9 files):
18:07.32CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
18:07.32CIA-42- Added revision numbers to all LUA files.
18:08.09Slakah1wowhead says 50s
18:08.33Slakah1wrong chat
18:09.42RaydenUnigood grief
18:09.47RaydenUnii chased a shaman for like 30 seconds
18:09.49RaydenUnicouldn't kill him
18:09.51RaydenUniand i had help
18:10.03AckisWorkfoo = CreateFrame("frame","foo",MerchantItemTemplate) will create a new vendor interaction window that I can do funky things with?
18:10.16RaydenUnithe petahoof doesn't do much dmg
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18:15.10CIA-4203feithar * r75561 10FBagOfHolding/ (FBagOfHolding.lua FItemDB.lua FOO.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
18:15.10CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
18:15.10CIA-42- Main drop down menu now shows the current SVN revision number.
18:15.46Matrix110|vhaarr how does gnomish interrupter work?
18:15.50Matrix110|it does nothing here:_(
18:16.16Matrix110|based on the lua it should just work
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18:19.12GitHub62Bit more to Ally Hellfire
18:19.14GitHub62http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/3fcb2de60dca636033e0c5c367eee91bf288a5ab
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18:23.45vhaarrMatrix110|: it announces to your party when you interrupt a spell
18:24.00vhaarrMatrix110|: I've only tested it on my warrior with Pummel and Shield Bash
18:24.04Matrix110|hmm
18:24.13Matrix110|it doesnt say anything at immune atleast
18:24.13vhaarrperhaps it doesn't work for mages, rogues or shamans, but it *should*
18:24.21vhaarrit's not supposed to
18:24.26Matrix110|Ill see if i can interrupt something
18:24.28vhaarrit only announces when you actually interrupt something
18:24.44Matrix110|ah
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18:24.47Matrix110|or it is resisted?
18:24.48GitHub75tourguide: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-c9f55ff
18:24.50GitHub75Merge commit '2.4.2.26-Beta'
18:24.52GitHub75http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/c9f55ff1c5c60aa040c989facc21956f2c282663
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18:25.00vhaarrMatrix110|: only if you *actually interrupt*
18:25.04Matrix110|kk
18:25.16vhaarrbut I'm thinking about changing that
18:25.19Fisker-vhaarr what if i don't interrupt anything?
18:25.33vhaarrso that if you have a boss target, it will announce resists/misses as well
18:25.36vhaarrFisker-: then you get assraped
18:25.40Fisker-damn
18:25.41Fisker-that sucks
18:26.10vhaarrwell depends on your mood, I guess
18:27.13Matrix110|would be nice vhaarr because else they bitch you didnt CS orso :D
18:27.16AckisWorkhttp://www.wikiupload.com/images/car-accident.php wtf?
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18:34.44p3limfiles.wowace.com <-- Down?
18:35.01p3limIm wondering if there is an addon called: AnnounceDruid
18:35.16digmouse~seen apoco
18:35.17purlapoco is currently on #wowuidev (8h 9m 45s) #wowace (8h 9m 45s), last said: 'bbls'.
18:35.24nevcairielfiles works fine for me
18:35.52AckisWorkis running into a wall
18:36.12p3limodd
18:36.17CIA-4203p3lim * r75562 10AnnounceDruid/ (. AnnounceDruid.lua AnnounceDruid.toc): AnnounceDruid: initial commit
18:36.52Snagop3lim: It announce when a druid join my raid?
18:37.03p3lim:p
18:37.18p3limParty/Raid announce when casting Rebirth/Innervate
18:37.25p3limquick thing a guildie asked for
18:37.37sbgnnnl
18:37.40sbcouncil bug sucks
18:37.45sb(mage running away)
18:37.47AckisWorkhmm
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18:39.33CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
18:39.33CIA-42- Added ability to view items on your keyring.
18:39.44CIA-4203p3lim * r75564 10AnnounceDruid/: AnnounceDruid: added externals
18:41.04digmouseanything special to localize RBM?
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18:41.48p3limIs there a Blizzard-default way of disbanding a raid?
18:41.58p3limI remember ctraid had /radisband thingie
18:42.05AckisWorkora2 has it too
18:42.13p3limyah
18:42.36p3limso blizz hasnt implemented this?
18:43.17AckisWorkdon't think so
18:43.19p3limshame
18:45.32durcynfor i=1,GetNumRaidMembers() do UnInviteUnit("raid"..i) end
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18:45.36GitHub27buffet: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-88ca676
18:45.37durcynseems relatively simple
18:45.38GitHub27Merge commit '2.4.2.13-Beta'
18:45.40GitHub27http://github.com/tekkub/buffet/commit/88ca676ef1b457949e15cb52419ca2d23975592f
18:45.42GitHub27buffet: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-378d254
18:45.44GitHub27Update changelog for 2.4.2.13-Beta
18:45.46GitHub27http://github.com/tekkub/buffet/commit/378d254b5b3513a249d334517457cf29bd1dbd50
18:45.48GitHub27buffet: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-2c08aba
18:45.50GitHub27Weekly build 2.4.2.13-Beta
18:45.52GitHub27http://github.com/tekkub/buffet/commit/2c08aba478888b0bd3ed610386847e40af0e0e33
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18:46.54ulicthat's funny, it just joins, spams, then leaves?
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18:49.15cubicoolDoes anyone here know of a tool that works natively in Linux for manipulating BLP files?
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18:54.49GitHub178teknicolor: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-434f711
18:54.51GitHub178Add README
18:54.53GitHub178http://github.com/tekkub/teknicolor/commit/434f71139f8c7a4676890bb252cd0589e19c6b98
18:54.55GitHub178teknicolor: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-c016bb4
18:54.55kd3natively? nah... blpconverter works well enough in wine. I've got a shellscript that works in bash
18:54.57GitHub178Add changelog
18:54.59GitHub178http://github.com/tekkub/teknicolor/commit/c016bb49e0ecdd098cdd3795b41ba109523b38de
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18:55.42GitHub29teknicolor: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-8c34502
18:55.44GitHub29Weekly build 2.4.2.3-Release
18:55.46GitHub29http://github.com/tekkub/teknicolor/commit/8c3450236c0ac22dd0901ce8353740332d0b01e6
18:55.48GitHub29teknicolor: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-cd12e50
18:55.50GitHub29Merge commit '2.4.2.3-Release'
18:55.52GitHub29http://github.com/tekkub/teknicolor/commit/cd12e50823c5a14d4609b5b85caa1c8a2e2ef595
18:55.54GitHub29teknicolor: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-692e63c
18:55.56GitHub29Update changelog for 2.4.2.3-Release
18:55.58GitHub29http://github.com/tekkub/teknicolor/commit/692e63c5a5f8b28da61a4997784cab27f347a159
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18:56.07AckisWork...
18:56.13Vonhintenthat's not annoying or anything
18:56.37ulicso who's gonna teach me how to use the /ignore command?
18:56.45CIA-4203digmouse * r75565 10RBM_Config/Locales/zhCN.lua:
18:56.45CIA-42RBM_Config:
18:56.45CIA-42-partially add zhCN support.
18:56.48p3limeven jwowupdater says files.wowace.com is down
18:57.08AckisWorki was able to get on to it
18:57.12charoncubicool: tried 'convert'?
18:57.36charonfor some reason it accepts it as a target format for me
18:57.39cubicoolcharon: I doubt any native tools will support the archive format.
18:57.42charonnot sure about sources because i don't have any handy
18:58.15charonbah, seems it copied the original file unchanged. sorry
18:58.18CIA-4203feithar * r75566 10FBagOfHolding/FItemDB.lua:
18:58.18CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
18:58.18CIA-42- Fixed error introduced in last commit that would pop up if a new type of item is scanned.
18:58.22p3limTekkub: any changes on teknicolor lately? my version is like stoneage but works perfectly
18:58.25cubicoolcharon:  :)
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18:58.42IndustrialAntiarc: Howcome I cant see http://armory.mmo-champion.com/sig.php/1716302csQUZ.png ? just created it but  its not showing on the page
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18:59.04p3limIndustrial: i can see it
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18:59.31CIA-4203digmouse * r75567 10RBM_Config/Locales/Locales.xml:
18:59.31CIA-42RBM_Config:
18:59.31CIA-42-I forgot it again?
18:59.31CIA-42~lart digmouse
18:59.31purlshoots digmouse in his sleep
18:59.35p3limXamth, ele shammy with shit spelldmg :p
19:00.04Industrialhmm.
19:00.28cubicoolHmm, looks like I can run blpconverter in wine; woot.
19:00.28p3limUsing linux?
19:00.53Industrialno in wine using windows..
19:00.57kd3cubicool, that's all I do... w/ the following shellscript in ~/bin: http://wowi.pastey.net/88703
19:01.18cubicoolkd3: lol, i was just in the process of writing a shell script for it. :)
19:01.32cubicoolkd3:  the source is provided, I could potentially make a native Makefile.
19:02.02nevcairielassuming it doesnt use fancy windows api
19:02.12cubicoolnevcairiel: it has an #ifdef LINUX
19:02.21cubicoolSo someone at some point appears to have considered the possibility :)
19:03.24Industrialwhy does teh FUCKING armory still show a guild when i left them like MONTHS ago
19:03.27Industrialrediculous
19:03.35Industrialfail less, armory.
19:03.55cubicoolridiculous too
19:04.07Pkekyo|anyone know if Fraps has any problems running on Vista?
19:04.07Industrialyeak.
19:05.51VonhintenNo problems at all
19:06.23VonhintenI've recorded 100GB of video with it, in all settings with no problems
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19:09.22Pkekyo|my mate can't get it to work, and we're setting up a major enterprise to film camwhores :P
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19:11.05Pkekyo|hmm...I've been told to set up my router to be RIAA/MPAA/IFPI-proof...anyone know how to do so? :p
19:11.23kd3nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
19:11.33Pkekyo|hahah
19:11.43cubicoolkd3: !! awesome reference
19:11.43Pkekyo|rather nuke RIAA/MPAA/IFPI from orbit :p
19:11.55Gnarfoz[Ammo]: yay for untainting FishermansFriend <3
19:12.01Pkekyo|cubicool: if you haven't heard it for a while, l2 4chan
19:12.15cubicoolkd3: i'm sorry but he's just a grunt, he's not authorized to make that kind of decisoin
19:12.30Pkekyo|cubicool: sod off, I'm not a grunt
19:12.36Pkekyo|I'm an operator o.O'
19:12.45cubicoolPkekyo|: it's another quote :)
19:13.04cubicoolthis installation has substantial dollar value attached!!
19:13.15AckisWorkI want to change how some blizz code operates, only like a line or two, does that mean I have to rawhook the entire function and copy/paste their code?
19:13.32Pkekyo|quotes without quotemarks sucks :p
19:13.45cubicoolPkekyo|: agreed... my bad. :)
19:14.10Pkekyo|meh, I always look pissed off in pictures :p
19:14.26CartasHm, this might be a terribly embarrassing question, but I hope not... some addon is seemingly putting a Vanish and a Stealth button near the centre of the screen, but I've no idea which it is. Anyone got any ideas before I slowly remove them one by one? :P
19:14.28Pkekyo|well, guess it'd go fine with my bouncer ID :p
19:14.58Pkekyo|Cartas: I'm gonna go ahead and guess Autobar, just 'cause it pisses me off with random shit similar to that every now and then :p
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19:15.23CartasThanks old chap!
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19:15.33CartasSince when did it have random bars like that? :o
19:15.51Pkekyo|no idea, I quit in february and just came back...found my screen filled with random buttons :p
19:17.20Pkekyo|http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1212174565445.jpg rofl
19:17.43cubicoollol
19:17.55rypakalthat took me several looks to get.
19:17.59VonhintenLOL
19:18.06CartasHaha.
19:18.17cubicoolthat's pretty pro right there :)
19:18.22rypakalit needs a couple photoshop touches to look more like a stickman centaur
19:20.08Pkekyo|realism > shoo
19:20.09Pkekyo|p
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19:21.32cubicoolDoes anyone want a PNG'ified archive of the Blizzard Art?
19:21.49cubicoolIt took my system about 8 mins to recursively convert everything
19:22.07cubicoolI bet 7 minutes of that was wine overheard getting called over and over.
19:22.50hasteyou could have asked foxlit for his lua version of the blp -> png converter
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19:23.10cubicoolThat sounds pretty sweet, actually.
19:23.13Fisker-.o/ haste
19:23.23VonhintenI have it, and it doesn't compile in the latest luac
19:23.32hasteFisker-: ya helo thar
19:23.42hasteVonhinten: errors with what?
19:24.53Pkekyo|http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1212174891172.jpg too true
19:26.10Gnarfozlol yes
19:26.40Vonhintenhaste, http://ace.pastey.net/88706
19:26.48Vonhintentry to compile it yourself
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19:28.06hasteVonhinten: works just fine :)
19:28.18Vonhintentry with the lastest luac?
19:29.08CIA-4203silmano * r75568 10ShamanWarning/ShamanWarning.toc:
19:29.08CIA-42ShamanWarning:
19:29.08CIA-42- Updated TOC file
19:29.25hasteVonhinten: with 5.1.3
19:29.26VonhintenI get:
19:29.28Pkekyo|http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1212174786723.jpg rofl (SFW)
19:29.53Vonhintenluac: blp2png.lua:28: `]' expected near `%'
19:30.20hastewhat version of lua are you using?
19:30.30Pkekyo|haste: v 39.2
19:30.50hastewhat?
19:30.55Vonhintenlua 5.0.2
19:31.00IndustrialPkekyo|: lol so wanna do what the terminal says
19:31.03hastethat's not latest Vonhinten
19:31.07hastethat's very very very old
19:31.14Pkekyo|Industrial: but where would you put it? :p
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19:31.34Vonhintenwtf... I grabbed it from the links on lua.org
19:31.48hasteVonhinten: 17 Mar 2004 - Lua 5.0.2 released.
19:32.12hasteVonhinten: http://www.lua.org/ftp/lua-5.1.3.tar.gz
19:32.20Vonhintenfucking douchebags
19:32.25hasteno u
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19:35.48IndustrialPkekyo|: where you put the card ofc.
19:35.50VulcanusWUT U MEEN LATIST LINUX KERNIL ISENT 2.0!?
19:36.47Vonhintenfuck that, I followed their links, and that's what it got me...
19:36.58VonhintenI'm no idiot, that's their stupid shit site arrange
19:37.00Vonhintenment
19:37.14Vulcanushehe
19:37.31Pkekyo|Industrial: figure you'll be spending some time achieving that? :p
19:38.08Industrialjust push really hard. You will reach the desired effect even if you dont get all in the machine.
19:38.47Industrialimagine the mechanic that has to fix the machine.
19:38.50IndustrialxD
19:42.35p3limpoor kitten
19:42.49p3limopening the atm and blood shatters around
19:43.07kappaccinoo_o
19:43.46Vulcanusthat is just wrong
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19:44.38VulcanusI should change my nick to peer and see how many people flame me for resetting their connection
19:45.30CIA-4203digmouse * r75569 10RBM_Config/Locales/zhCN.lua:
19:45.30CIA-42RBM_Config:
19:45.30CIA-42-Everything in zhCN is OK now
19:45.51CIA-4203whitetooth * r75570 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua): Grid: Added options to toggle icon stack text and icon cooldown frame.
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19:47.50OzguliI thought that name was copyrighted?
19:50.24digmouseblizzard dont know that guy lol
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19:55.53CIA-4203digmouse * r75571 10RBM/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
19:55.53CIA-42RBM:
19:55.53CIA-42-zhCN update
19:55.53CIA-42-anything more to do apoco?
19:56.28Pkekyo|Vulcanus: go for it
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20:04.29RaydenUniwhat's the best honor/hr these days/
20:04.31RaydenUnistill AV?
20:04.34RaydenUnihaven't playd since 2.3
20:05.19trhi think playing the bg with bonus hour is best.. and on the other days the other bg's to turn in the reward-thingies for more honor
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20:05.47RaydenUnireward things?
20:06.03RaydenUniwhat is the bg this weekend?
20:06.16Hell-Razoranybody know the addon that will display quests (like if you need 10 of a guy it will say that) in the tooltip
20:06.46dylanmHell-Razor: Kemayo probably has something that does that.
20:06.48trhRaydenUni: when you finish a bg you get 1 token for losing and 3 for winning
20:06.49dylanmI can't keep track.
20:07.06trhRaydenUni: there's a npc that takes 1 of each tokens and gives you 300 something honor
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20:07.15RaydenUnioh that
20:08.25RaydenUniwhat is the strategy for AV these days? all rush?
20:08.27RaydenUnior defend?
20:08.29RaydenUnibeen so long
20:08.32RaydenUniand so much has changed
20:08.56buuRaydenUni: Ideally heavy offense and back capping towers
20:09.14buuAlliance seems to have a slight defensive advantage these days so heavy defense is slightly more reliable
20:09.25buuAnyway
20:10.02buuself:ShowCandyBar(self.shortcode[name].." - "..(UnitName(unit) or ""), guid, timeLeft, BS:GetSpellIcon(name), true, self.db.profile.highcolor)
20:10.18buufunction DotDotDot:ShowCandyBar(text, id, time, icon, isTarget, c1, c2, c3, c4, c5, c6, c7, c8, c9, c10)
20:10.20Hell-RazorKemayo hey do you know of an addon that will display how many of what you need in a tooltip?
20:10.35buuself:RegisterCandyBar(id, self.db.profile.window, text, icon, c1, c2, c3, c4, c5, c6, c7, c8, c9, c10)
20:10.51buuHow does that not constantly overwrite the same CandyBar?
20:13.12buuThe first argument to RegisterCandyBar should be a unique ID, right?
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20:14.18buuAnd Guid is always the same for each mob..
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20:14.58buuiNs|Renew: HELP.
20:15.19iNs|Renewhi
20:16.11buuiNs|Renew: This code can't possibly work.
20:16.15buuBut somehow it might.
20:16.19Hell-Razoranybody know the addon that will display quests (like if you need 10 of a guy it will say that) in the tooltip
20:17.54HjalteHell-Razor: There are lots of addons that do that. Do you want a new interface for the quest log as well?
20:18.59Hell-RazorHjalte i have tomtom and lighheaded... i am just looking for something simple
20:19.00iNs|Renewwhat code buu, I am a code noob
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20:19.04buuiNs|Renew: THIS IS LIES.
20:19.15buufunction DotDotDot:ShowCandyBar(text, id, time, icon, isTarget, c1, c2, c3, c4, c5, c6, c7, c8, c9, c10)
20:19.22buuself:RegisterCandyBar(id, self.db.profile.window, text, icon, c1, c2, c3, c4, c5, c6, c7, c8, c9, c10)
20:19.33HjalteHell-Razor: If you're using fubar, then questsfu is relatively simple.
20:19.36buuid = UnitGUID("target") or some such
20:20.07buuOh wait
20:20.28Hell-RazorHjalte nah i like to stay away from titan and fubar
20:20.37buuI UNDERSTAND IT NOW.
20:20.45buuIt's terrible code, but I understand.
20:22.36buuIn the world of Lua, if you just start referring to a variable, does it auto-appear as a global?
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20:22.55Xinhuanyes
20:23.00charondon't think in C terms
20:23.14HjalteHell-Razor: Okay, well, I'm using nQuestlog which also supports lightheaded. It does have a lot of features though.
20:23.15buucharon: Hrm?
20:23.18Xinhuanvariables default to the largest possible scope (global) unless declared otherwise
20:23.56Hell-RazorHjalte ill give that a shot... does that do the thing with the tooltip?
20:24.05buuOk, is there any reason to write: local name, _, texture, applications, _, duration, timeLeft; name, _, texture, applications, _, duration, timeLeft = UnitDebuff(unit, num)
20:24.08HjalteHell-Razor: Yes.
20:24.09buuAs opposed to just doing it in one go?
20:24.22Hell-RazorHjalte alirhgt thanks
20:24.27Xinhuanthere is no difference
20:24.35Xinhuanapart from having a larger file size
20:24.35charonbuu: well, "auto-appearing" sounded as if you assumed lua would reserve memory or some such. any variable not declared local just means "look in the _G table"
20:25.04buuXinhuan: This code makes me sad.
20:25.26Xinhuanalso note that declaring _ twice in the same line
20:25.26RaydenUnii need a new comp
20:25.29RaydenUniAV is a slideshow
20:25.32Hell-RazorHjalte where did you snag it from?
20:25.32Xinhuanis actually 2 different _ variables
20:25.43Xinhuanbut the second _ overshadows the first _'s scope
20:25.43buuXinhuan: I assume it's just supposed to be a placeholder for an uninteresting value
20:25.48Xinhuanso the first _ becomes unaccessible
20:25.51Xinhuancorrect
20:26.00Xinhuanbut that's just to elaborate on how it works
20:26.02HjalteHell-Razor: files.wowace.com
20:26.13buuXinhuan: Hokay.
20:26.37Hell-RazorHjalte whoops over looked it
20:27.07buuXinhuan: guid = UnitGUID(unit) .. "-" .. self.shortcode[name]
20:27.15buu=[
20:27.34ShaneSvellertraditionally _ is a throwaway variable, as i understand it
20:29.15Xinhuanits not really a tradition ;p
20:29.16trhonly in lua.. in C or other languages it's often used to seperate user_api from internal api
20:30.20Vonhintenwell, standard api from non-standard api
20:30.23Vonhintentechnically
20:36.19buuIs it possible to create a weak reference?
20:36.33sbomg
20:36.41sbfirst engineering receipe :o
20:36.52sbin SWP
20:37.05Pkekyo|blargh...bored out of my skull >.<
20:37.39sbplate tank headpiece :/
20:37.40sbsucks
20:38.46buuAlso, how do I delete something in a table?
20:39.14Gagoriantable[index] = nil
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20:39.22buu=/
20:43.19Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1764.msg220851#msg220851
20:43.41dylanmbuu: http://www.lua.org/pil/17.html?
20:46.07buudylanm: Hrm.
20:46.12buudylanm: That seems reasonable.
20:50.25Vilkkuwhat addon would you guys recommend to show vendor value on items?
20:51.27EvilJohn-I think I'm getting the data through auctioneer
20:51.32EvilJohn-seems to work pretty well
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20:51.55dylanmVilkku: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7035-SellFish.html
20:52.08ShaneSvellerI'm a fan of SellFish as well
20:52.22VilkkuSellFish is in the lead atm
20:52.30dylanmI heart Tuller.
20:52.32dylanmSo.
20:52.37ShaneSvellerthere's a proof-of-concept addon that uses an embedded Lib of sellvalues too, can't remember the name tho
20:52.44durcynItemPriceTooltip
20:52.51durcynand its library ItemPrice-1.something
20:53.03dylanmThat's what SellFish uses, actually.
20:53.12durcynwell, there you have it.
20:53.51ShaneSvellerah. wicked.
20:54.10dylanmSo yeah, it has a pretty good chance of being up-to-date.
20:54.42buuOk, how would I "Hide" a CandyBarGroup ?
20:55.16dylanmbuu: Wait, what were you doing with a weak reference
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20:58.31buudylanm: I actually realizized that CandyBar works solely by string-ids so I didn't need to worry about keeping around references.
20:59.10ShaneSvelleranyone using the Ace3 branch of agUF regularly?
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21:01.20Matrix110|vhaarr i tested Gnomish interrupter now it doesnt work for mages atleast
21:01.52Matrix110|when CSin my Focus target (parrot showed me i interrupted it) it didnt say anything:-(
21:02.04RaydenUnihow much armor/hp should a druid have before doing heroic SP?
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21:02.22buuRaydenUni: I just tanked it at around 20k armor and 10k hp
21:02.24buuIt really hurt.
21:02.33RaydenUnithat's not encouraging
21:02.40RaydenUni16k armor, 12k hp
21:02.44buuWith enough CC it's doable
21:02.49buuBut yeah
21:03.10buuLike, the bosses were fine, it was just some of the 4-5 pulls
21:03.18RaydenUniwhere do i get better gear?
21:03.23RaydenUnihttp://www.armory-light.com/us/Destromath/Petahoof
21:03.24buuAre you wearing clefthoof?
21:03.28buu*heavy
21:03.29DashkalClef... too slow
21:03.55buuhttp://www.emmerald.net/Bear_Mitigation/Two_Hand.html <--
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21:05.19hastearmory-light my ass
21:05.24haste*still waits for it to load*
21:05.26RaydenUniheh
21:05.30RaydenUniyeah it does'nt seem too light
21:05.37RaydenUniactually
21:05.40RaydenUniit seems to be sort of down
21:05.44RaydenUnialternative light?
21:05.57RaydenUnihttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eitrigg&n=Petahoof
21:06.00hasteso light you won't even be able to read the text!
21:06.19dylanmhttp://armorylite.com/us/eitrigg/petahoof
21:06.23*** join/#wowace kov` (i=kovi@p4FD66750.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:06.28hasteI just fired up warcrafter
21:06.36dylanmThat's good too.
21:07.10hasteit didn't help much tho' :p
21:07.41Gaurongwell, at least when it does work it doesn't crash FF -_-
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21:09.20RaydenUnithat's the better "lite"
21:09.28hasteneither works here so :p
21:09.37RaydenUnii linked wowarmory
21:11.30RaydenUniwell
21:11.36RaydenUnigood to see the bonus honor in WSG is still crap
21:11.43RaydenUnithe world wouldn't be right any other way
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21:14.59RaydenUnihorde seems to be not so good on my battlegroup
21:15.12RaydenUnioh
21:15.19RaydenUnii guess i logged out in pvp stuff
21:15.22RaydenUnii do have the clefthoof set
21:15.22CIA-4203ckknight * r75572 10Chinchilla/Chinchilla.toc: Chinchilla: fake commit
21:15.42RaydenUnistylin purple hat
21:15.46RaydenUnibogstrok
21:15.56RaydenUnia couple dragonhide pieces
21:17.10AckisWork~svn
21:17.11purlSubversion (aka SVN) is version control software that aims to be a better CVS than CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/.
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21:21.46syerenFunkeh`, did you make any of the changes to Statblocks_ClosetGnome.
21:21.53syerenWhoever the fuck did has made it retarded.
21:22.02syeren*?
21:23.48Funkeh`syeren, nope, what's up?
21:24.04CIA-4203ackis * r75573 10WelfareEpics/ (6 files in 2 dirs): WelfareEpics: Initial commit, add-on dry-coded 100% but compiles
21:24.34NivFreakwth?
21:24.36syerenFunkeh`: http://bayimg.com/BajjCAAbm
21:24.38NivFreakwhat does that one do ackis
21:24.42syerenIf you could possibly fix that it would be nice.
21:24.43Koliedrycoded++
21:24.56AckisWorkNivFreak: right now, it probably crashes
21:25.02NivFreakintent then :)
21:25.06AckisWorkbut I want it to be able to filter badge gear
21:25.15NivFreaklike the vendor window?
21:25.21AckisWorkie: I'm a priest, I don't want to see leahter, mail, plate stuff
21:25.22AckisWorkyah
21:25.25NivFreaknice
21:25.27NivFreakthat would rock
21:25.31NivFreakit's insanely long
21:25.44AckisWorkright now it'll just filter anything you can't use
21:25.44NivFreakbtw, some addon I have installed reskinned my quest window
21:25.49NivFreakI love it, but I have no idea which one it is :)
21:26.10NivFreakAckisWork: not as useful for my warrior/paladin
21:26.13NivFreak;)
21:26.17AckisWorkI know
21:26.20syerenI have no idea how to fix it Funkeh`, all I know is that it was working fine 3 commits ago.
21:26.25AckisWorkbut the intent is there
21:26.43AckisWorkI'm thinking of having different tabs for gear types
21:27.02NivFreakfilters imo
21:27.17NivFreakarmor class / slot etc
21:27.27AckisWorkie: cloth -> plate, weapons, other
21:27.41NivFreak0yea
21:27.42NivFreakyea
21:27.49Funkeh`syeren, where am i looking
21:28.01syerenLook at the top left of my screenshot.
21:28.10syerenThat's my ClosetGnome_Statsblock Tooltip thingy.
21:28.12syerenCool huh
21:28.17Funkeh`erm
21:28.20Funkeh`mkay
21:29.51AckisWorkNivFreak: it'll be slow in development because I hate/don't know how to gui dev =/
21:29.58NightHawkTheSanehuh, apparently you can't mine while divine shield is up >.>
21:30.49NivFreakAckisWork: no biggie, just a cool idea
21:30.54NivFreakhonestly I have all the badge gear
21:31.10profalbertNivFreak: with all your alts too?
21:31.38DARKGuyGUI dev is easy with AceConfigDialog3 o,o
21:31.43DARKGuyI don't see what's hard about it :D
21:32.02RaydenUniany rumors on when s4 is coming out?
21:32.17VonhintenNightHawkTheSane, you can't mine, open chests, etc...
21:32.21RaydenUnishould i wait to buy the welfare epics?
21:33.49CIA-4203starlon * r75574 10StarTip/Media/: StarTip: Remove media
21:34.42Funkeh`is there a secret to tablet to make it ClampToScreen
21:35.38Funkeh`ckknight, ping
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21:41.25buuActually, speaking of closet gnome, I was having issues with it the other day
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21:42.13ashbright - so i'm trying to play with writing an Ace3 addon
21:42.19ashband i can't get anything loaded
21:42.37ashbtrying to follow http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon
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21:43.29Josh_Borkedid someone seriously write WelcomeHome for Ace3?
21:43.36dylanmYeah.
21:43.38dylanmNo idea who.
21:43.40ashbwell no i think its a port of the Ace2 one isn't it
21:43.46ashbbut either way - it doesn't seem to work :)
21:44.13Josh_Borkeand it's completely wrong
21:44.20Josh_Borkeyou don't include the entire Ace3 Stack
21:44.22Josh_Borkeonly include what you need
21:44.24ashbright so i'll ignore that
21:44.27ashbwhat should i be doing?
21:44.37Josh_Borkewell, what arey ou trying to do?
21:44.54ashbright now just get something loading and priting to DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME :)
21:44.59Josh_Borkestart by learning how to make an addon without using Ace3
21:46.13ashbgood idea
21:46.38Josh_Borkewww.wowwiki.com has good tutorials
21:47.30ckknightFunkeh`: pong
21:47.38Funkeh`ckknight, nvm
21:47.42ashbJosh_Borke: yeah problem with wowwiki is finding the right one first:)
21:48.06buuIs CreateFrame a builtin?
21:48.31buuYes, I found it.
21:49.44buuAlso, this code is dumb.
21:50.31ckknightur dum
21:50.35ckknightjk
21:50.49buu=[
21:51.03buu40 lines of 'this.myname.self.anchor.fizzle()'
21:53.30RaydenUnidoes wow seem to be crashing on you guys more often recently?
21:53.35RaydenUniit's doing it on both my computers
21:54.35durcynRaydenUni: just the hang-on-exit crap on the win32 client, still.
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21:56.03buudurcyn: Oh, is that a known problem?
21:56.40durcyni don't think it's been acknowledged, but it's widespread enough to say so, yes
21:57.32RaydenUnino it's crashing out of the game
21:58.00ashbthe mac client gives an assert on exit
21:58.09Gnarfozis auto-collapsing of the "inactive" list of reputations now part of the blizz ui? (or did it not work when that was introduced and someone made a fix for it which is now superfluous? FuXPFu errors if one of those factions is selected as "show as rep bar" because it somehow can't read rep info in that case)
21:58.50durcynyes, Inactive auto-collapses
21:59.28ashbso do i still need an XML file if i dont want to do any UI stuff?
21:59.30buuIf I've done 'foo.bar = 1; foo.baz = 2; foo.qux = 3' I can iterate over them with pairs(foo) right?
21:59.48durcynashb: not since CreateFrame was implemented, no.
21:59.55ashbthats what i thought
22:00.42durcynbuu: how is foo defined originally?
22:00.54buudurcyn: foo = {}
22:00.59dylanmbuu: Yeah.
22:01.01buuCool.
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22:02.16buuI am doing.. EVIL.
22:02.51RaydenUni3472 honor into buying something
22:02.56buuRaydenUni: 10k to go!
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22:03.25RaydenUnimore like 23k i think
22:03.27RaydenUniwell depends
22:03.29buuProbably.
22:03.31buuWhat are you trying for?
22:03.37RaydenUnistaff, vindicator's set
22:03.45RaydenUnithat's  over 100k right there
22:03.52RaydenUnioh no
22:03.55RaydenUni3400 honor today
22:03.58RaydenUnii have 5200 all in all
22:04.01buuGrats
22:04.12buuVindicators is uh
22:04.17RaydenUniwhat's the weekend bg?
22:04.43RaydenUnisome of the V pieces are awesome for druids
22:04.44buuLike 50k for vindicators?
22:04.46RaydenUnitanking and dps
22:04.52buuAnd uh 25k for the staff?
22:04.54RaydenUnii think it's 80-90k for the 3 piece and neck and ring
22:04.55Pkekyo|g'morning ladies
22:05.03buuOh yeah, not counting the ring
22:05.05RaydenUnii reset that
22:05.11RaydenUnibuu is not a lady by any stretch
22:05.19buu=/
22:05.31RaydenUni11 + 17 + 19 for the 3 ipece
22:05.32RaydenUnipiece
22:05.39RaydenUni15 and 15 for neck and ring
22:05.44CIA-4203digmouse * r75575 10RBM_Capping/Capping.lua: RBM_Capping: add zhCN locales
22:06.01Diaohuh
22:06.03Diaoit's 18/18
22:06.05CIA-4203digmouse * r75576 10RBM_AbilityWatch/RBM_AbilityWatch.lua:
22:06.05CIA-42RBM_AbilityWatch:
22:06.05CIA-42-add zhCN locales
22:06.06Diaofor the boots and belt
22:06.25RaydenUniyeah
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22:06.33RaydenUnibut i put 17 and i didn't want to erase so i put 19 to even it out
22:06.42Diaorofl
22:06.45CIA-4203digmouse * r75577 10RBM_BadgeWatch/BadgeWatch.lua: RBM_BadgeWatch: add zhCN locales
22:06.48Diaoand the bracers are actually just under 12
22:06.49Diaoi think
22:06.54RaydenUni11794
22:06.57RaydenUnimight get those first
22:07.14digmouseoops, wiping all RBM modules, working on the BOSS mods
22:07.26Silverstormhow do those bracers compare to Band of the Swift Paw?
22:07.42Pkekyo|RaydenUnibuu is not a lady by any stretch <--- learned that the hard way, didn't you? :p
22:08.14buu=[
22:08.25Pkekyo|pats buu
22:08.26Diao317 armor, 21 str, 22 agi, 31 sta, 10 int, yellow sock/2str bonus
22:08.38Diao236 armor, 22 str, 22 agi 29 stam, red sock/2 resil, 21 crit, 17 resil
22:08.40AckisWorkanyone here looked at the rawr source code?
22:08.50Xelopheriswowowow, 26" widescreen monitor is NICE
22:08.59CIA-4203digmouse * r75578 10RBM_Incubator/Incubator.lua: RBM_Incubator: add zhCN locales
22:09.08SilverstormAckisWork: briefly, but I probably couldn't answer any questions about it :-p
22:09.18AckisWorkpfft
22:09.27AckisWorkI've decided to do the holy priest module
22:09.32AckisWorkgonna try it out this weekend
22:09.41Diaois rbm_incubator basically just incubator
22:09.54buuAckisWork: What does rawr do?
22:09.59digmouse_Sleepindiao:basically yes
22:10.07AckisWorksimulator for wow basically
22:10.12AckisWorklets you optimize
22:10.23digmouse_Sleepinjust use incubator bars in RBM frame
22:10.30Diaowhat does RBM replace exactly
22:10.34Diaobigwigs?
22:10.39digmouse_Sleepineverything
22:11.16digmouse_SleepinBW/DBM, capping, cooldown, and even NECB/Antagonist, though it's still under dev
22:11.27Diaohmm
22:11.45buuThe world's largest collection of random timers?
22:11.49digmouse_Sleepinsome cases it's not a replacement
22:11.55digmouse_Sleepina combination
22:11.59digmouse_Sleepina bar nexus
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22:12.26buuWhat happens if I parent multiple CandyBarGroups to a single frame?
22:12.28buuWill they overlap?
22:12.41digmouse_Sleepingonna take some sleep to rest after 24hours
22:13.21digmouse|sleepbuu: try RBM and you'll know
22:13.26digmouse|sleepsee ya guys
22:15.00Pkekyo|does banana promote or prevent diarheea? :p
22:15.28Pkekyo|just got the feeling he shouldn't give his mate health advice without knowing what he's talking about.
22:15.36ashbwill a reloadui trigger PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD ?
22:15.46ashbah yes
22:16.02ashbright win. i've got sometihng loading ^_^
22:17.48VonhintenPkekyo, bananas are a good source of fiber, but some people have a problem eating them
22:19.14CIA-4203funkydude * r75579 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: Update blocks when the global font is changed, for any blocks with auto width adjust.
22:19.19VonhintenI can't eat bananas unless they're cooked or from a fresh market where they don't use ethylene gas to ripen
22:19.42Vonhintengives me a nasty upset stomache
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22:22.00CIA-4203funkydude * r75580 10StatBlocks_ClosetGnome/StatBlocks_ClosetGnome.lua: StatBlocks_ClosetGnome: Go back to using blizzard tooltip, can't justify the amount of code on the off chance someone has tablet installed. Now auto adjusts width to text size. Kept the dewdrop position fix.
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22:23.53erica647Hello beautiful people
22:24.12Funkeh`hey gorgeous
22:24.18erica647:)
22:24.21buuCloset Gnome totally stopped working once.
22:24.22Funkeh`syeren, fixed
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22:25.33syerenThanks Funkeh` :)
22:26.25buuHow could I iterate over a inline list of strings?
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22:29.34Pkekyo|weresheep are fucking awesome<3
22:30.35erica647O.o
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22:31.12erica647Is that anything like a werewolf?
22:31.30Pkekyo|yes :D
22:31.35Pkekyo|but it's a sheep :D
22:31.49erica647pretty hard to get a mental image of that  lol
22:32.27erica647I guess that's nature's way of fighting back
22:32.51Pkekyo|:D
22:32.59Pkekyo|can't stop bloody laughing
22:33.06erica647lol
22:33.24Toadkilleroh yeah whioch movie is that?
22:33.35Pkekyo|and that kinda sucks when you've got a rip that's nearly fractured (the thing in between fractured and badly bruised, what's the word?)
22:33.35Pkekyo|Toadkiller: Black Sheep
22:33.35Pkekyo|<3
22:33.47erica647I'd love to see a poor innocent sheep transform as it's being attacked by a werewolf
22:33.49Pkekyo|s/a rip/ribs/
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22:34.06Pkekyo|erica647: nah, genetically enhanced sheep bite humans and then they become weresheep :D
22:34.13erica647lol
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22:34.42erica647someone should make an icon of that for a mod  lol
22:35.15Pkekyo|lollerkeks
22:35.22Pkekyo|but seriously, what's the word I was looking for?
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22:36.33erica647I have no idea
22:36.37Pkekyo|hmm...cracked? :/
22:36.46Pkekyo|cacaed? :p
22:38.03erica647<PROTECTED>
22:39.13erica647http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJrX8NRI0Q
22:40.15Pkekyo|erica647: lolswu >.<
22:40.23Pkekyo|s/wu/wut
22:40.25Pkekyo|s/wu/wut/
22:40.29Pkekyo|ffs
22:40.37Pkekyo|purl you suck
22:40.37purland very well I might add
22:41.45erica647<PROTECTED>
22:43.20erica647http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMShvQa4SI0&feature=related
22:43.26erica647there's a devil sheep
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22:44.01CIA-42RaidBuffStatus:
22:44.01CIA-42- Added a check for Priests, Mages and Warlocks with Blessing of Might. And Rogues with Blessing of Wisdom.
22:44.01CIA-42- Added a check that looks for players obviously missing Paladin blessings.
22:44.01CIA-42- Added a check for Amplify Magic. It is disabled and hidden by default as most encounters don't need it. Enable in the options window.
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22:55.27CIA-42DrDamage:
22:55.27CIA-42- Added "Resourcefulness" effects to hunter trap DPS (CD) calculation.
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22:57.49Ihavewormshi
22:58.01RaydenUniif you leave a bg early do you get any of the honor?
22:58.26Ihavewormsyeah
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22:59.07IhavewormsI have a question for a GRID user
22:59.55Pkekyo|I have a question for your mom
23:00.11charonPkekyo|: asking questions first is so 2007
23:01.02IhavewormsHow can I change the text from saying how much the heal is estimated to do, to the estimated health remaining on the target that needs to be healed
23:01.17Ihavewormslike with healbot
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23:05.11charonso you can hear the rawrbombs wheeze past
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23:06.35Pkekyo|charon: ...wut?
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23:06.57CIA-4203sayclub * r75583 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua:
23:06.57CIA-42Grid:
23:06.57CIA-42- koKR Update
23:07.14Dashkalmmm, rwarbombing
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23:10.11KemayoHell-Razor: BetterQuest
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23:16.41Pkekyo|doublesided tape is almost as awesome as weresheep :D
23:19.14ZiconI'm not going to ask.
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23:21.42GitHub14http://github.com/tekkub/teknicolor/commit/510e2b1c722656cf2715e8162ce4ecc50323dd30
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23:22.43Pkekyo|Zicon: do ask! :p
23:22.49ZiconI dare not.
23:24.37Pkekyo|whyes nuts?
23:25.56bleeterhmm, who do I poke in reference to my SVN account application?
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23:28.45durcynyou could poke Funkeh`, but he doesn't usually respond well to being prodded.
23:29.11Funkeh`send a mail and wait in line
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23:31.18RaydenUniarc with no key sucks
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23:31.49Arrowmasterhmm did they change the wowtcg loot stuff? dont see how to get more pet biscuits
23:32.07p3limlol
23:32.13p3limsomeone pulled a felreaver to shatt
23:32.27Vonhintenyeah, pretty easy with enough block value
23:32.46bleeterFunkeh`: how long's the queue for acknowledgement of receipt? We talking Blizz Account Admin sorta time (7-14 days)?
23:33.06Funkeh`usually a week untill i find time
23:33.11Funkeh`i'll do it now
23:33.18Funkeh`what's your name
23:33.19bleeteroh heh sweet
23:33.42bleetersearch for a domain name that's the same as this nick
23:34.20Funkeh`that's a shit email
23:35.48Funkeh`there mr spam
23:36.25bleeter:P it's the generic outbound address
23:36.29bleeterFunkeh`: thx mate :)
23:38.15CIA-4203ellipsis * r75585 10PitBull/PowerBar/PowerBar.lua: PitBull_PowerBar: Fix rare class coloring bug (PB-385)
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23:38.44Pkekyo|woot, Ellipsis
23:38.45Pkekyo|hai
23:39.06Ellipsislicks Pkekyo|
23:39.17Pkekyo|plonks Ellipsis
23:39.25durcynshe's alive!
23:39.43Funkeh`welcome back Ellipsis
23:39.47Funkeh`nice holiday?
23:40.04Pkekyo|figured ckknight had killed you off and stuck you in the deep freezer
23:40.23Ellipsiswow, I had no idea I was missed
23:40.39Pkekyo|I didn't get licked for ages...you notice such things :P
23:40.59Ziconlicks pkekyo|
23:41.01Ellipsisindeed I am alive, and ck didn't do anything horrible to me (at least, not without consent ;))
23:41.03Dashkalooo, welcome back :)
23:41.31Zicon... ... ... I'm tempted to ask for pics, but I fear what it might do to my mental health if I get any.
23:41.38Pkekyo|bwahah
23:41.49Dashkalsends Zicon pics of a former guildmate of his
23:41.53Pkekyo|and by saying that, you increased the likelyhood of pics by...5k%
23:42.00ChompersEllipsis!
23:42.01Ellipsishaha
23:42.03Chompersyou're not dead!
23:42.12Chompersthat surprises me greatly
23:42.17Ellipsissorry to disappoint
23:42.27Pkekyo|:p
23:42.46Pkekyo|bounces Ellipsis
23:42.49Ellipsis^-^
23:43.00Pkekyo|hmm...doesn't have quite the charm of plonking, but had to try it :p
23:43.03Chompersshe's not a cheque
23:43.11Pkekyo|'s a bouncer now
23:44.01Pkekyo|on a more serious note though; STOP BEING SO BLOODY PREGNANT
23:44.10Ellipsis:o who told you?!
23:44.28Pkekyo|you did just now :p
23:44.34Ellipsisd'oh!
23:44.46Pkekyo|plonks Ellipsis some more
23:45.09Funkeh`Ellipsis, really?
23:45.24Ellipsisnah, I'm not *that* careless
23:45.34Dashkalsnickers
23:45.36Pkekyo|sods off to find a fresh set of bandages
23:45.53Funkeh`few, was beggining to panick there
23:46.19Chompersspawn of ckknight
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23:46.37Dashkal... oh god... that _is_ a terrible thought...
23:46.39Chompersand Ellipsis too
23:46.41Ellipsisdon't worry, I'd never let such a thing live
23:47.00Pkekyo|just envisioned rock v.15
23:47.36Pkekyo|'Rock v.15, now with Rock Band!'
23:48.10Pkekyo|meh, knees are too fucking hard to bandage...shit won't stay in place
23:48.27Ellipsisgives Pkekyo|'s knee a solid licking
23:48.30Ellipsisthere, now it should stick
23:48.35sacarasc:o
23:48.53Pkekyo|damn you're nasty...
23:48.53Pkekyo|I wouldn'tve licked that wound for a million bucks :P
23:49.04Pkekyo|(not even -I- know where it've been)
23:49.06Ellipsiseverything's easier over the internet!
23:49.48Pkekyo|:>
23:50.02Funkeh`There are a few things i'd prefer to do person to person to be honest...
23:50.11Funkeh`even if it means extra difficulty
23:50.27Funkeh`like having a chat at a coffee shop
23:50.40Ellipsisprods Funkeh`
23:50.51Ellipsisin some ways, you're a normal geek...and then you say things like that
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23:51.21Funkeh`i'm too RL to be a real geek :/
23:51.28Ellipsisclearly
23:51.31Funkeh`although I did meet my gf online
23:51.38Ellipsiswell that's not so bad then
23:52.44Pkekyo|I've both met and lost GFs online :p
23:52.49Funkeh`i've been extremely RL this week so I went and bought the all season box set of the next generation
23:53.00Funkeh`in an attempt to even it out
23:53.05Pkekyo|has been AWOL since february :)
23:53.05Ellipsis...can I come over and watch them with you?
23:53.15ChompersNO VOYAGER EPISODES
23:53.16Chompersever
23:53.18Pkekyo|next gen? BOO
23:53.24EllipsisTNG > your mom
23:53.25Funkeh`sure, how long does t take to fly from america to scotland?
23:53.34Ellipsisnot sure, but I can find out!
23:53.36Pkekyo|Ellipsis: but then again, my mom is horribly, HORRIBLY bad
23:54.32Funkeh`i'm not watching it until i finish enterpsise, halfway through season 3 at the moment. still got season 4 left. so you got, say, a few days? ;p
23:54.46Ellipsissee you then ;)
23:55.04Pkekyo|anyone good at human anatomy?
23:55.17Funkeh`the weather is going to be shit for the next couple of days, so it's a great excuse
23:55.19EllipsisI know all the fun bits
23:55.28Chomperslike uh, the butt
23:55.32Pkekyo|Ellipsis: are the knees 'fun bits'? :p
23:55.34Funkeh`i can code human anatomy
23:55.50EllipsisPkekyo|: only if you're really flexible
23:56.09ZiconThere's a beautiful mental image.
23:56.11Pkekyo|it's a no-go for me then...horribly fucked up my knees when I was a kid :<
23:57.04Pkekyo|seriously though...anyone know if the right and left knee are usually distinctively different from one another?
23:57.20Funkeh`yes
23:57.27Funkeh`they point in different directions
23:57.40Pkekyo|ie. they're mirrored compared to eachother?
23:57.55Funkeh`the chances of having a mirror image are next to nul
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23:58.06Funkeh`but you could say that
23:58.06Pkekyo|figuratively speaking
23:58.16Deloralai'd think so
23:58.32Pkekyo|either way, just curious 'cause my breecher's kneepads have different angled fastening straps on each leg :/
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23:59.54Pkekyo|leik, on the left leg the upper fastening hook is like |
23:59.54Pkekyo|whilst the one on the right leg is something like \

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