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00:02.22*** join/#wowace Thezanke (n=thezanke@98.220.95.239)
00:07.55Arrowmasterwho broke dewdrop
00:10.07CIA-4203sayclub * r75217 10FuBar_InstanceInfoFu/locales/koKR.lua:
00:10.07CIA-42FuBar_InstanceInfoFu:
00:10.07CIA-42- koKR added
00:12.29HjalteHas anyone seen the dutch movie Ben X?
00:12.34NivFreakZhinjio: k, I'm scurred
00:13.11NivFreakZhinjio: is it Ace now? :)
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00:18.42Funkeh`iz it can b ac yet?
00:18.46Funkeh`oops
00:18.50Funkeh`iz it can b ACE yet?
00:20.23KemayoArrowmaster: No-one.  Dewdrop was last touched back in december.
00:20.32Kemayo(Apart from vhaarr bumping the TOC.)
00:23.39Arrowmasterhmm for some reason execute lines are showing with checkmarks for me now
00:25.26KemayoDon't see that happening for me.
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00:40.26LukianKemayo!
00:40.48LukianagUF on svn, class colour names, yes/no?
00:40.57LukianI can't find that option if it exists :(
00:44.08Zyndromehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tnqRGz9OA , oh man I rofl'd
00:45.29Ackisbest quote on vent: I want to know how a kid that small can take a shit that big
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00:47.12GitHub126buffet: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-ce1040b
00:47.14GitHub126Add special case for multi-use mage gem
00:47.16GitHub126http://github.com/tekkub/buffet/commit/ce1040b5f8494d218c11284ed23883f3d7d41bd9
00:47.18GitHub126buffet: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-b184e47
00:47.20GitHub126Make HP and MP macros use different custom texts
00:47.22GitHub126http://github.com/tekkub/buffet/commit/b184e4783d05def43edd16a5eb586e6d90d708cf
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00:56.24NivFreakNeoTron: hey, I've been using magic DKP and loving it, but do you know about the attendance tracking issues for trash in hyjal?
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00:59.50GitHub1buffet: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-dba2311
00:59.52GitHub1Add changelog
00:59.54GitHub1http://github.com/tekkub/buffet/commit/dba2311aed2a3cebc80fd76a1c05a80f987c199c
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01:13.34GitHub110http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/9b089b69d05be8730437702a457a77b1607632ae
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01:41.28CIA-4203next96 07ag_Options * r75218 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_Options-koKR.lua:
01:41.28CIA-42ag_Options :
01:41.28CIA-42- Update locale koKR
01:42.04anenigmadoes github rejoin on each commit by tekkub?
01:43.34ArrowmasterYES
01:43.40Arrowmastercaps
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01:44.15Taskyhey is there any way to find out who set a guild note or officer's note?
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01:46.49NeoTronNivFreak: what's the issue?
01:47.16CIA-4203next96 07andreasg * r75219 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua:
01:47.16CIA-42ag_UnitFrames :
01:47.16CIA-42- Update locale koKR
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01:52.01NivFreakNeoTron: I should probably send you my lua, it only sees me as present for trash
01:52.06KemayoLukian: I don't know, actually
01:52.21NivFreakso all the trash epics that get awarded to people other than me are blank
01:52.27KemayoGeez, I just write addons, I don't play the game. :P
01:52.52LukianKemayo, haha
01:53.22KemayoLukian: I don't think there's an option for it.
01:53.57Lukianwanna code it in, or should I wait for ag to show his ugly face? :)
01:54.07NeoTronthat's a feature
01:54.18NeoTronspecifically I've checked in a change that changes the behavior
01:54.48KemayoLukian: I just checked the "name" stuff -- it can do it, but the option for it isn't exposed.
01:54.57Lukianah right!
01:55.08Lukianwhere in the code is this, so I can play with my local copy?
01:55.26NeoTronversion r74715 or newer should be fixed
01:55.28Kemayoag_UnitFrames.lua line 1058
01:55.39KemayoAll it really needs is something added to ag_Options.
01:56.23Kemayofeels that ag_Options needs some sort of facility for letting modules register their options with it, instead of having it all centralized like that.
01:56.31Lukianyeah agreed
01:56.36LukianI found it.. weird
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02:02.29LukianI think Perl Classic had a good system for that
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02:04.08KemayoPitBull actually has quite a good one, too.
02:04.33KemayoI meant to ask ag` about it when he was on earlier, but it slipped my mind.
02:05.39CIA-4203kemayo 07ag_Options * r75220 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_ModuleOptions.lua ag_Options.lua):
02:05.39CIA-42ag_Options:
02:05.39CIA-42Add option to color unit name by raid class color
02:05.39KemayoLukian: There you go.
02:05.59Kemayofigures that rewriting the entire options system is big enough that it'd be polite to ask about it first. :P
02:06.00Lukian<3
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02:06.13Lukianhaha
02:06.14Lukianlies :D
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02:07.16KemayoHm, I wonder how oUF handles it.
02:07.52KemayoActually, I guess oUF would handle it by making you write the lua for how you want it to work yourself.
02:08.01starlonWhat's that?
02:08.01Lukianlol :/
02:08.31starlonoUF colors the health bar but not the name
02:08.53LukianI like my healthbar coloured from red->green
02:10.12CIA-4203next96 * r75221 10DailiesQuestTracker/Locales/koKR.lua:
02:10.12CIA-42DailiesQuestTracker:
02:10.12CIA-42- Update locale koKR
02:12.11CIA-4203kemayo * r75222 10InstanceMaps/InstanceMaps.toc: InstanceMaps: Add the LibBabble-Boss-3.0 optdep.
02:16.25Arrowmasterarchimonde with only 3 decursers sucks
02:20.52Ackisfucking 1% wipe on entropious OMFG
02:20.54Ackisasdfkjl;asdfkljhasdklhdefhjkladehjkewryewrhjrethhjathjfrdta
02:21.17Ackisthat was my face on the keyboard
02:22.15Stanzillapats Ackis
02:22.24Estilman
02:22.30Estil2000 is close but so far away
02:23.57Ackisthat means he had under 5000 health
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02:35.13Lukianmoar dots? :D
02:36.47NeoTronAckis: as much as that is frustrating, it's even worse to wipe on kalecogs, a boss you know well, because dargon s banished and no one can get in to finish off the demon that's at 1%
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02:42.50Dashkalinstalls BadBoy
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02:53.14Arrowmasteratleast you guys are in sunwell, we cant kill kalec
02:54.25Brunersatleast you get to have raids, our last 10 raids have been canceled
03:00.58Xinhuanhow do you deal with encapsulate Ackis, it kills half my raid every time
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03:17.36kenlyricplay with smarter people
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03:32.48Dark_Elfomg 1.1 fps in wow just terrible :p
03:36.23Taskyhowd u fit that tenth of a frame in the second?
03:36.24Tasky:X
03:38.22CIA-4203ackis * r75223 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua:
03:38.22CIA-42BigWigs:
03:38.22CIA-42- Add M'uru gravity ball timer
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03:39.03Dark_Elfwonders if there is an addon for when ya sell stuff it has like a drop down or something to see the 20 things ya sold, cause it seems the blizzard default only shows the last one.
03:39.32GngskDark_Elf, click buyback tab
03:40.24Dark_Elfomg that been there all that time and i just now saw it! thanks alot Gngsk
03:40.44GngskDark_Elf, you're welcome a lot!
03:42.46Taskylol
03:43.11LukianDark_Elf, actually it hasn't been there all the time :p
03:43.15Lukianit was added in a patch
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03:44.10Taskynot recently
03:45.09Taskyanyone have any information on the PLAYER_GUILD_UPDATE event? wowwiki isn't too helpful
03:50.02NeoTronGiven the fact that there's available strats now, how hard are Eredar Twins compared to felmyst?
03:50.28NeoTronXinhuan: we maed everyone get lots of arcane protection pots
03:50.48NeoTronXinhuan: and made people make oh shit macros that use pots, healthstones, trinkets etc to buff health/heal up
03:50.53Xinhuanwell, are pots really necessary?
03:51.05Xinhuanis it possible to get by without any pots?
03:51.18NeoTronpossible yes
03:51.20NeoTronadvisable no
03:51.21Xinhuandoes your p1 strat involve movement?
03:51.25Xinhuanor do you heal thru it without movement
03:51.26NeoTronnot when learning
03:51.30NeoTronmove out
03:51.38NeoTroncan't heal encapsulate
03:51.45Xinhuanthe raidguru forum strat uses a heal-thru-it strategy
03:51.48NeoTronit's 3500*5 + 2000 or so dmg
03:51.52Xinhuani.e p1 has absolutely no movement
03:52.15Xinhuanwant me to link you? lol
03:52.15NeoTronalmost 20k dmg for a full encapsulate
03:52.40Xinhuanhttp://raidguru.net/PHPbb3/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=146
03:52.46Xinhuanthey advise lots of arcane pots
03:52.48NeoTronjust don't se ehow you can heal that much
03:52.50Xinhuanand 0 movement in p1
03:53.04Xinhuansee the strat and tell me if you think its nonsense
03:53.41Xinhuan"Healing Through Encapsulate:
03:53.41XinhuanThis is the real trick to this strategy. Many strategies will call for your raid to run away from Encapsulates and to spread out in odd fashions, both of which can be confusing and cause as many problems as they solve.
03:53.46XinhuanWith this strat, your healers MUST deliver when encapsulate goes out. Note that encapsulate does not cause spell push back, so even if it lands on the main healer group, they have no excuses for not putting out massive loads of healing during it's duration. Furthermore, the raid can DPS while encap is going out, even if it is on their group."
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03:55.22NeoTronor you can just run out
03:55.24NeoTronwhich isn't hard
03:55.32NeoTronI'm sure it IS doable
03:55.43NeoTronbut it's A LOT of healing
03:55.59NeoTronand also relies on wasting arcane pots :P
03:56.12Xinhuanwell you recommended arcane pots yourself ;p
03:56.23NeoTronof course
03:56.33NeoTronbut used reactively
03:56.39NeoTronnot at the start of each phase
03:56.41Xinhuanis raidguru's strat of healing thru it workable?
03:56.48NeoTronof course it's doable
03:56.51NeoTronthey are doing it..
03:56.56NeoTronbut I wouldn't try
03:57.23NeoTronour first enrage we got to 20% or so before pwn. On our second time there, we got to 1% with 1 warlock offline for a whole ground phase
03:57.39NeoTronand she died before engaging anyone, 5s or so after landing
03:57.58NeoTronI mean we didn't have a dps issue due to running out of encaps
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04:01.39DARKGuy^_^
04:02.41DARKGuyhey, I have a group of checkboxes in AceConfigDialog (Ace3) but all of them are selected by default, and clicking them doesn't do anything. Anybody knows what's wrong? -> http://ace.pastey.net/88491
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04:05.34Ackisentropius down
04:05.40YssarilDARKGuy: get (function|methodname) - will be called for every key in values with the key name as last parameter so you cant just return the same value for each key
04:06.02HjalteAfter 2.4.2, I seem to have to press the pet-attack button twice for my pet to actually hit the target. First time I press it, it just walks to the target and doesn't attack. I'm a warlock with a succubus. Is this intended?
04:06.06NeoTronAckis: grats
04:06.10DARKGuyYssaril, what should I do then? I'm confused
04:06.11NeoTronAckis: how many tries? :P
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04:06.37Xinhuan:p
04:06.43Ackisover 9000
04:07.06NeoTronright.. but seriously?
04:07.13Xinhuannot enough dry practice attempts :D
04:08.06CIA-4203quezacolt 07Quezacolt * r75224 10Barrier/ (Bars.xml Config.lua Core.lua embeds.xml):
04:08.06CIA-42Barrier:
04:08.06CIA-42<PROTECTED>
04:08.27CIA-4203wang * r75225 10DailiesQuestTracker/Locales/zhCN.lua:
04:08.27CIA-42DailiesQuestTracker:
04:08.27CIA-42- zhCN update
04:08.39YssarilDARKGuy: http://ace.pastey.net/88492 make sure Magnet.db.char.lootQuality is either populated with your keys and states or is a black table
04:09.09Yssaril*blank
04:09.46Ackisneotron: 30 hours or so of attempts
04:09.55DARKGuyHmm so lootQuality ends up being a table...
04:10.01DARKGuyhey I get it now, thanks Yssaril :D!
04:10.33YssarilDARKGuy: yep and every key in that table corrosponds to a key in your multiselect :)
04:10.59DARKGuyYssaril, so in this case, lootQuality[q0] and lootQuality[none] would be valid values ?
04:11.53Ackisahhh 1% wipe, 5% wipe, 2% wipe, kill
04:11.54Yssarilanything is valid but only none, q1-q6 matter :)
04:12.10Ackisplus our vent got hacked
04:12.22Ackisand last friday our guild forums got hacked
04:12.32DARKGuyYssaril, I see, thanks a lot for the help :)
04:12.37DARKGuyAckis, sucks :(
04:14.15CIA-4203wang * r75226 10FuBar_MoneyDetailFu/: 已删除的文件/文件夹
04:15.12CIA-4203wang * r75227 10FuBar_MoneyDetailFu/: 远程创建文件夹完成
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04:16.59Xinhuanheh
04:17.20starlono.O
04:17.37CIA-4203jayrox * r75228 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/Localization.lua:
04:17.38CIA-42FuBar_VampwatchFu:
04:17.38CIA-42- Updated deDE localization, thanks Xiande
04:17.38Xinhuanthe commit note means "deleted file/folder" btw
04:19.53Yssarilrofl
04:20.17Lukianhaha
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04:27.24Ackishttp://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/Ackis/WoW%20Screenshots/WoWScrnShot_052608_220827.jpg
04:28.54kappaccinoneed bigger resolution prz
04:32.34Ackishttp://i25.tinypic.com/2gy6ohy.jpg
04:32.46kappaccinoso where does this boss live?
04:34.21Ackis4th boss in sunwell, just before kiljadean
04:35.44kappaccinoman I think I'm going to return to wow when the expansion hits
04:36.24Gngskyou won't be alone
04:37.53kappaccinowell first of all
04:38.21kappaccinoI've been wanting to jump into WoW again since I'm starting to get bored of TF2
04:38.43CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75229 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua:
04:38.43CIA-42BigWigs:
04:38.43CIA-42- Update zhTW localization.
04:38.49kappaccinothis new gaming machine I built would tear up the graphics if I played again and my old comp had the case of screen stutter so much
04:38.52Ackiskil'jadean down to 85%!!!!!
04:39.06kappaccinocome back when you get to 0%
04:40.49Arrowmasterwe need to add to the svn rules that commit messages must be in english
04:40.59Arrowmasteror atleast engrish
04:42.47CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75230 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua:
04:42.48CIA-42LibBabble-Inventory-3.0:
04:42.48CIA-42- Update zhTW localization. (Thanks s8095324)
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04:43.38CIA-4203wang * r75231 10FuBar_MoneyDetailFu/ (9 files): FuBar_MoneyDetailFu: zhCN added,add some missing strings
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04:46.31Ackishttp://ackis.myminicity.com/tra :D
04:46.38AckisFunkeh` you around?
04:47.48kappaccino._o
04:48.07Funkeh`sort of
04:49.22Funkeh`Ackis
04:49.30Ackisposted full transcript of M'uru if you're interested
04:50.19Funkeh`thanks
04:50.47Ackisand I updated my wowace sig to not be as annoying
04:50.53Ackisdidn't realize it was so big =/
04:51.05dylanmAckis: So what is this game can you do anything or does it just sit there are you scroll around.
04:51.32Ackisit's just a thing that you get people to click and your city grows
04:51.39Ackisit's something that lets me waste a few minutes at work
04:51.46dylanmWell I wasn't even going to mention that incredible innovation.
04:52.06Arrowmasterso its one of those annoying referral spam things
04:52.46Ackisbasically yes
04:52.56dylanm:)
04:53.24DARKGuyWell I found a way to get the width and height of the AceConfigDialog, in-game
04:53.25DARKGuy:)
04:56.22CIA-4203scorpio0920 * r75232 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:
04:56.22CIA-42LibBabble-Zone-3.0:
04:56.22CIA-42- Update zhTW localization. (Thanks s095324)
04:58.30CIA-4203neotron * r75233 10MagicMarker/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MagicMarker: Added better prioritized list configuration to CC methods. Fixed handling to make more sense for both raid icon and cc prio lists.
04:58.36NeoTronit is now A LOT nicer to configure raid icons and cc priority list on MM
04:58.42NeoTronadded move up/move down buttons
04:59.26NeoTronabuses AceConfigGUI.
04:59.29anenigmaok, bored at work, and that auctioneer thing piqued my interest.  anyone want to recommend me a/some AH mods.  mainly looking for things that will search for cheapest price on AH, give me price per unit for stacks of things, and something to remember how i price my stuff
05:00.02CIA-4203DARKGuy * r75234 10Magnet/ (Localization/enUS.lua Localization/esES.lua Magnet.lua):
05:00.02CIA-42Magnet:
05:00.02CIA-42* Changed the quality dropdown by some checkboxes, so you can multiselect the item qualities you want to loot for :)
05:00.02CIA-42* zhCN please update your localization accordingly, GUI isn't watefall anymore :) and I added two new strings.
05:00.14Brunersanenigma: tried kc_items ?
05:02.17anenigmaBruners: haven't really tried anything yet, so no
05:03.14Arrowmasterdont try kc_items
05:03.30BrunersArrowmaster: why not?
05:03.37Arrowmasterbecause its old and outdated?
05:03.49BrunersArrowmaster: still works here
05:03.53Arrowmasterim shocked
05:03.55Hjalteanenigma: Vendor is working quite nicely. It's very, very simple.
05:04.18Hjalteanenigma: For price per item mode, you could try Fence or one of the other countless addons.
05:04.48Lukian~botmail
05:18.06Lukianhey Kemayo, how'd you deal with bear form?
05:18.35Lukian(more specifically, with the FSR, did you deal with bear form, or not bother? :D)
05:18.46anenigmathanks hjalte/hero, i'll give them a shot
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05:26.03Brunerslaff, green items on ah for lower price than vendor
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05:58.08DARKGuyhow do you kill a rogue? :( yeah stupid question but I'm tired of getting pwned by them (as warrior) u.u
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05:59.36DARKGuyBlizz loves to OP rogues and hunters ):
05:59.40DARKGuyoh well
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06:02.01grimmanSpeaking of rogues, I need an addon that does what Gonffbar does... predict the energy tick.
06:02.17grimmankEnergy would be all well and good, but it's lacking in customization.
06:02.27anenigmai think pitbull does that for me
06:02.35grimmanI don't use PitBull.
06:02.37anenigmaa sort of "spark" type thing that runs along my health bar
06:02.39anenigmaah
06:03.23grimmanI'm still in Lozareth's legion. :P
06:04.08Gnarfozread: using the worst UF out there besides blizzard's ;p
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06:05.05grimmanEfficiency-wise... maybe. But it's still unsurpassed in customization and fine-grain control.
06:05.37grimmanI'm willing to use this one non-Ace/Rock addon. ;)
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06:33.59CIA-4203wang * r75236 10Magnet/Localization/zhCN.lua: Magnet: fix a typo error
06:35.06DARKGuyYay
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06:44.13Elkanothis just saved my day: http://www.abload.de/img/014_fail1wwo.jpg
06:46.12Snagorotating underware to save laundry ;P
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06:47.55CIA-4203Footrot * r75237 10GhostPulse/Watcher-Parry.lua:
06:47.55CIA-42GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-27
06:47.55CIA-42- Drycode: Start of support for parry-related reactive abilities (Riposte and Overpower). Not yet referenced from the TOC, so no harm (yet).
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06:49.12DARKGuylol
06:52.15Gngskyeah, someone should tell him that overpower is dodge-related reactive
06:52.46nevcairielsee thats why its still un-referenced dry coded code =P
06:53.12Gngskheh
06:55.31grimmanBesides Cooldowntimers, are there any addons you know off the top of your head that tracks cooldowns?
06:55.35Orionshockanyone know where a quick run down on textures in font strings is?
06:55.48jy`grimman: you could use avion :p
06:55.58grimmanI will check that out.
06:56.13DARKGuyCooldownButtons o.O
06:56.18DARKGuybut I don't use it much :P
06:56.32DARKGuyanyways, time to go to bed for me :P
06:56.45DARKGuyGood nights all :D
06:56.45grimmannn :P
06:56.48DARKGuy^^
06:58.31CIA-4203cronan * r75238 10GrimReaper/GrimReaper.lua:
06:58.31CIA-42GrimReaper:
06:58.31CIA-42- schoolColour Bug fix
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07:13.46Orionshockgrr, having a stupid moment.,.. how do u get the mob id from the GUID
07:13.58Orionshocki know it was a string sub but can't remember the numbers for it
07:14.02evlI'm trying to create a SecureActionButton which uses normal "type1" = "spell" or "item" attributes but I'd like to be able to invoke alternative functions (like showing a UIDropDown) if alt/shift or ctrl is down, any idea how to accomplish this without getting blocked?
07:15.03nevcairielevl: set type1-alt? :)
07:15.23nevcairielor was it alt-type1
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07:15.26nevcairieli forgot
07:15.26evlnevcairiel: and how do I make it run a function then? :P
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07:15.34evlit's alt-type1
07:16.07nevcairielbtn:SetAttribute("alt-type1", "mycustomtype") will execute "function btn:mycustomtype(some args)"
07:16.13evlI've looked into "type1" "menu" but nothing seems to happen even if I have button.menu or button.showmenu set
07:16.29evlnevcairiel: that easy? :(
07:16.29CIA-4203wang * r75239 10Altoholic/ (8 files):
07:16.29CIA-42Altoholic:
07:16.29CIA-42- add some missing locale strings
07:16.29CIA-42- zhCN update
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07:16.43nevcairielcustom types are no where documented except the lua itself
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07:16.46nevcairielbut yes
07:16.47nevcairielits that easy
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07:17.11evlneat, the Secure Frames Overview on wowwiki is somewhat lacking and doesn't reflect the actual APi at times
07:17.40grimmanUrrgh... can I add spell effects to Quartz somehow? Distract, for example, is just an AOE spell, it'd help to have a duration timer for it.
07:17.59Gngskwhich spell specifically?
07:18.10grimmanUhm... Distract.
07:18.23evlit always lasts for 10 seconds?
07:18.30Gngsknah, 23
07:18.41grimmanYes, always 10.
07:18.42evli should know that :P
07:18.47Gngskyou can make a macro that initiates a quartz timer
07:18.56evlexcept it can be resisted
07:18.56grimmanInteresting. Speak to me!
07:18.58Gngskoh, yah, sry 23 is the cooldown
07:19.03evlgrimman: sorrentimers does all this btw
07:19.16grimmanevl: Rarely + it can target an unlimited number of mobs.
07:19.32Gngsk#showtooltip distract /cast distract /qt 10 distract
07:19.38grimmanYes... I used SorrenTimers, but I removed it because Quartz does it all + replaces ecb + has some other crap I can use.
07:19.39Gngskeh.
07:19.41Gngskthat won't work either
07:20.19grimmanTime and spell name switches places, Gngsk. Got it. :)
07:20.33Gngskwell
07:20.37SnagoIt'll start the timer when you press the button
07:20.43SnagoNot when you actually cast it
07:20.47grimmanOh... you mean like that.
07:20.47Gngskright
07:21.02grimmanAnd I checked the example, you're right anyway. :P
07:21.05SnagoNeed an addon to listen to some event
07:21.07grimmanBoth alternatives work.
07:21.13Gngskyou could adapt some code that I wrote to work for when a mage summons a water elemental
07:21.29Gngskshould be burried somewhere in the quartz thread
07:21.36grimmanUgh. ;P
07:21.57Gngski'll try and find it
07:23.37Gngskhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6006.msg192180#msg192180
07:25.35grimmanWhere's the attached zip hiding? Do I need to be logged in to see it?
07:25.41Gngskyeah
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07:38.05ZhinjioNivFreak: LibRock, it does use Dewdrop and Tablet, tho.
07:39.37grimmanGngsk: This is alot more work than I had hoped for. ;)
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07:42.40Lukianis lahow (aka. purple@bahamut, according to his commits, wtf is that?), on IRC?
07:44.04Orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/88500
07:44.13Orionshockan addon that targets raid icons....
07:44.15Orionshocksorta....
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07:47.32nevcairielthats kinda useless
07:47.43nevcairielas you cannot update your button in combat
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07:52.05Orionshocknevcairiel: if i could, i would... but i don't think i can :\
07:52.53Orionshockif u can tell me how.. :D
07:53.29nevcairielyou cant :)
07:53.51Orionshockexactly.. it's a demo to point at for those that whine for one....
08:00.35grimmanRegarding CandyBar, the default background color is a greenish blue... can I change that anywhere beside the code?
08:03.00Zhinjiois it generally frowned upon to host a compilation on wowace?
08:03.12nevcairielyes Zhinjio
08:03.19Zhinjionods. I figured.
08:03.30Zhinjiowill continue to just use curse for that.
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08:06.30Orionshocktho hosting a compilation on wowace that is all ace addons.. is interesting, lots of xembeds and include an unpack script ...
08:06.39Orionshockwould be rather interesting to see done
08:07.07Zhinjionods. The thought had occurred to me.
08:07.45ZhinjioI'm not even sure you'd need to xembed lower level stuff, since I think the deps would chain... anyway, its a moot point. I'm not gonna do it.
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08:13.36Zhinjiois it possible to tell anywhere on the wowace site how many times a particular bundle version has been downloaded?
08:13.47Zhinjioincluding, presumably, WAU (and other similar client) installs?
08:14.02kalahassihow can i show only my group instead of the whole raid on my minimap?
08:14.35nevcairieli dont think you can
08:14.53Gnarfozrevert to wow 2.3
08:14.55Gnarfozheh
08:15.39SunTsu~vs
08:15.40purli heard vs is versus, or Vorpal Squirrel
08:16.58Elkanohmm, iirc there was some sort of statistics page but neither do I know the url nor the data
08:16.59SunTsuAh, damn, no more Traebot, what a pitty
08:17.23grimmanAren't the raid blips separate from party?
08:17.24nevcairiel!vs
08:17.33grimmanJust making them transparent should limit the visible ones to your party.
08:17.34nevcairielWoWLuaircBot is ThraeBot
08:17.55SunTsuAh, great
08:18.18SunTsu!vs eu nozdormu Tivlosh eu nozdormu Vorador
08:18.33SunTsunevcairiel: Thanks
08:19.49Gngskgrimman, you don't really need half that code, unless you want to be spiffy and stop the timer for a single distract resist
08:20.50Gngskgrimman, change the event that is registered to whatever you'd do to detect that you just cast distract, change the value for endTime to GetTime() + 10 and of course change to the distract icon
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08:20.53GitHub97tourguide: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-ef89f2d
08:20.55GitHub97Hellfire coords...
08:20.57GitHub97http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/ef89f2dfe7927943d1a9082ca1389c3d408091ee
08:20.58grimmanGngsk: I'm pretty much rewriting it based on COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED... and it's not working out the way I want it to. ;)
08:20.59GitHub97tourguide: 3Tekkub 7master0 SHA1-cd819f2
08:21.01GitHub97Ally Hellfire adjustments
08:21.03GitHub97http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/cd819f2ddedb934514e74023b4893148e66193e2
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08:21.20grimmanIe. it's not actually registering the event at all.
08:21.21grimmanWhich is odd.
08:21.27Gngsko_O
08:22.11SunTsu!vs eu nozdormu Maltrigol eu nozdormu Vorador
08:22.17Gnarfozgrimman: I don't think the blips are part of the accesible UI
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08:22.45grimmanGnarfoz: I've seen it changed, and I do believe I've seen the source image being editable somewhere.
08:22.54Gnarfozyou can change the texture
08:23.03grimmanYeah.
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08:23.10Gnarfozbut that is not the same at all, either
08:23.20grimmanMaking the raid ones transparent will show only the party ones.
08:23.32grimmanAlthough, yes, the tooltip will still show for the transparent ones.
08:23.39GnarfozZhinjio: I think those stats were generated by hand for each month, but I'm not sure. Poke Kaelten, anyway
08:24.43ZhinjioGnarfoz: k
08:25.06grimmanGngsk: Turns out I'm an idiot. I didn't check to make sure the addon was actually loaded before I started poking around.
08:25.07grimman-_-
08:25.51Gngskgrimman, a likely mistake
08:25.59grimmanNot likely... it happened.
08:26.00grimman:P
08:26.08grimmanMaking it a definite.
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08:31.24vithosanyone know how arena points are rounded?  i.e., rounded to closest int, floor or ceil?
08:33.14nevcairielprobably floor#ed
08:33.28Gnarfozblizz like's the flooring. :<
08:33.55vithosthanks
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08:43.46Greg__Can anyone help. I would like to know if there is an updated version of this action bar.
08:43.47Greg__http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8140-RoathActionBars.html
08:45.44Greg__or a similar modification to the blizzard action bars.....
08:48.06Greg__ill wait :)
08:48.32KemayoLukian: Just hid it if the power type changed to something other than mana.
08:48.36Zhinjiono, but if you ever feel like using a real barmod, feel free to ask about them.
08:48.45grimmanPlenty of action bar mods available, Greg__. Just have a look around.
08:48.57Gnarfozalso: what doesn't work about it right now?
08:49.08Greg__i like the default ones, just with the additional bars going along the bottom.
08:49.16Greg__not the right side
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08:55.15CIA-4203Footrot * r75240 10GhostPulse/ (Engine.lua GhostPulse.toc Locale-enUS.lua Watcher-Parry.lua):
08:55.15CIA-42GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-27
08:55.15CIA-42- Experimental support for Riposte and Overpower alerts.
09:01.42Zhinjioman, how do I get hooked up with these people.
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09:02.02Zhinjiome: you'll need to update yours addons to raid with us
09:02.06Zhinjioher: what are addons?
09:02.08Gngskgrimman, figure out that thing yet cuz I just finished it after being a dumbass for like 1/2 hour
09:02.27Zhinjiome: extra programs that run along side wow to add in some extra features. you just download them and go
09:02.33Zhinjioher: how do you download?
09:02.39Zhinjio*facepalm*
09:02.54grimmanGngsk: What?
09:03.08Gngskgrimman, the quartz timer for distract.
09:03.50grimmanSo... you're telling me to figure it out. I didn't really need to be told that.
09:03.51grimman;P
09:04.22Gngsklol, nah, I mean I got it working here was wondering if you had it working there.
09:04.29grimmanI have not.
09:04.42Gngskk, pastey in a sec
09:05.07Gngskhttp://gngsk.pastey.net/88502
09:09.31grimmanFunny thing is, I registered the event and didn't even use any criteria other than having it fire. It should have popped a "distract" timer on every single spell cast for me.
09:09.36grimmanBut it didn't. Not ever.
09:09.41grimmanI just can't see why not.
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09:10.24Gngskgrimman, yah that stumped me for about 15m until I remembered that I made it not load unless you were a mage. comment out the first line :P
09:10.34grimmanI removed that.
09:10.38grimmanAnd all dependencies.
09:10.39grimmanAnd load on demand.
09:11.02Gngskhmm, dunno then
09:11.07grimmanYou version works.
09:11.11grimmanFor what it's worth.
09:11.23Gngskvictory dance
09:11.37grimmanFailure dance for me, tbh.
09:11.46grimmanI know it's simple.
09:11.53Gngskheh, keep poking i'm sure the problem will pop up eventually
09:11.58grimmanSeems I've been hit by a retard bat.
09:12.04Gngskit happens
09:12.09grimmanI know.
09:12.13grimmanJust bloody frustrating.
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09:15.19grimmanAlso, the localize part... spellID == 1725.
09:20.27Gngskcool, i never messed with the GetSpellInfo
09:20.48grimmanYou have now. :P
09:24.17grimmanMy new UI is getting pretty smooth now.
09:24.52Zhinjiopix!
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09:26.03grimmanUgh... fine. Gonna have to clean up the mess a bit first.
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09:31.27charongrimman: you didn't happen to switch from ace2 to ace3? ace3 :RegisterEvent handlers have an extra first argument, i've bumped into that too. (too lazy to read the entire backlog so i may be off here)
09:32.19grimmanhttp://bonescraper.net/ui_wip.jpg
09:32.28Gngskcharon, i'm pretty sure it's ace2 being a quartz module it's based off the quartz instance of ace which would be ace2
09:32.41grimmanIndeed.
09:32.59Gngskwhat're you doing in dire maul?
09:33.04grimmanBesides, other addons use AceEvent2.0
09:33.30grimmanGngsk: I'm killing chinese dwarf hunters.
09:33.48Gngskahh, heh
09:34.05Gngski made 250g today cause I had 2 skin of shadow and made an arcanum of focus for someone
09:34.20grimmanSweet. :P
09:34.33Gngsknot to mention 500 shen'dralar rep!
09:34.39grimman:O
09:34.41grimmanHow? Why?
09:34.45grimman<< Rep whore.
09:34.52Gngskfor turning in the libram, heh
09:34.55grimmanThat's the real reason I'm in Dire Maul.
09:34.58Arrowmasterhuh?
09:35.03Gngskyou can get exalted with shen'dralar just turning them in
09:35.05Arrowmasteri thought you couldnt do that for other people
09:35.11Gngskyou can
09:35.15Gngskit works just like an enchant
09:35.20Arrowmasterdidnt used to
09:35.25Gngskyes, it always has
09:35.32Arrowmasternot the dire maul ones
09:35.44Arrowmasteri think
09:35.48Gngskhmm, maybe upon Dire maul release
09:35.55GngskI didn't start doing it until around naxx
09:36.09Gngskby then they had nerfed the drop rate, etc
09:36.32Arrowmasteri used to solo farm west for librams when you needed them for zg enchants
09:36.35grimmanYou can only turn your class book in once. Librams can be turned in repeatedly.
09:36.36Xinhuani sold dire maul enchants all year ;p
09:36.38grimmanAccording to Wowhead.
09:36.42Xinhuan30g per sale
09:36.46Xinhuanearns back the cost easily
09:37.09Arrowmasterhmm 500 rep per libram
09:37.12Gngskyah, depending on the price of the libram/diamond/shard on your realm
09:37.22grimmanThe pristine black diamonds would be the major obstacle.
09:37.30Gngskthis guy supplied libram/diamond/shard and still gave me 250g!
09:37.31Arrowmasterwonder how much it would take to get to exalted
09:37.45grimmanGngsk: Was he an idiot, perchance? :P
09:37.51Arrowmasterwas it for a twink?
09:37.51grimmanArrowmaster: 86 turnins.
09:37.54Gngsknah
09:37.56grimmanAccording to some comment.
09:37.58Gngskyah for a twink
09:38.06Arrowmasterwah? 86?
09:38.10Arrowmasterthats perty low
09:38.12grimmanYes.
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09:38.18grimmanI think I might just do it.
09:38.40Gngskjust keep an eye out for pristine diamonds, every once in a while you'll find chinese trying to dump a lot really cheap
09:38.44Arrowmaster42 just to get through revered
09:38.59grimmanIndeed.
09:39.03Xinhuani'm exalted ;p
09:39.09Gnarfozlol I remember back when they upped the drop rate of PBDs and BDs like... insanely
09:39.10grimmanI've done DM like... a hundred times. Probably more.
09:39.10Xinhuani need 43 more keys to reach steamwheedel cartel exalted
09:39.14Arrowmasteryou cheated though didnt you
09:39.19grimmanSeen 1 pristine black diamond.
09:39.27grimmanXinhuan: I need 12. :)
09:39.30Gnarfozprices fell SO fast, it was unbelievable
09:39.38Gngskyou don't go to DM for diamonds, you go to DM for librams
09:39.47grimmanI go there for keys.
09:39.52Gngskwell, yah
09:39.55grimman:P
09:40.00ArrowmasterXinhuan: you solo farming DM?
09:40.02Gngskyou'll get more diamonds doing baron runs for the mount
09:40.04Xinhuanya
09:40.08grimmanI've gotten more of the epic BOE pattern than I have gotten diamonds.
09:40.08Arrowmasterclass?
09:40.11Xinhuanmage
09:40.14Arrowmasterhmm
09:40.22Arrowmasteri want to do north on my warlock
09:40.24grimmanI will be doing the baron mount after I'm done with DM actually.
09:40.26Xinhuani can kill everything in both fire or frost spec, except captain kromkrush
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09:40.41grimmanXinhuan: What's so hard about him?
09:40.41[SW]Dodgeg'morning all
09:40.43Arrowmasteri still dont have the belt of the archmage pattern
09:40.49Gnarfozsrsly, I hate you xD http://wowreputationcalculator.com/US/Blackrock/Xinhuan/
09:40.51Xinhuanhe melees really hard, and summons 2 mobs midfight
09:41.09Gnarfoz(and I know, that's not half of it ^^)
09:41.12Xinhuani do a bit at a time now
09:41.14grimmanYeah, but if you go invisible, pass him and clear the area you can just kite him around the king, can't you?
09:41.21Arrowmasteri managed to get a gloves of spell mastery pattern after tbc, perty sure im one of the only tailors left on the realm now with that one
09:41.46grimmanhttp://wowreputationcalculator.com/EU/Twisting+Nether/Alda/
09:41.47grimman:P
09:41.59chosiit only shows active ones right?
09:42.00Xinhuanerr Gnarfoz, why does that only list
09:42.03XinhuanTBC ones
09:42.08chosioic
09:42.32grimmanXinhuan: "Enter your character's name and realm name to calculate your World of Warcraft Burning Crusade rep levels. You'll then be shown what you'll need to do to raise your reputation standing to the next level."
09:42.32Gnarfozbecause it's only for TBC, I guess? :) have a look at what it's actually for, using my profile ;) http://wowreputationcalculator.com/EU/Das+Syndikat/Lolah/
09:42.51GnarfozI guess he simply doesn't have accurate data to do the same for pre-tbc
09:43.12Gngskoh no, i need 560 kurenai rep!
09:43.17Xinhuanhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Xinhuan
09:43.17Xinhuan;p
09:44.28grimmanBam, passed 30k gold. :D
09:44.42Gngskheh
09:44.45Xinhuani passed 100k 5 months ago ;p
09:44.47Xinhuanthen i stopped trying
09:44.50Xinhuanso i'm at 110k now
09:44.51grimmanhehe
09:44.57grimmanI stopped "trying" at 20k.
09:45.04grimmanFigured I had more than I'd ever need.
09:45.06Arrowmasterim at 4.5k
09:45.06grimmanStill do.
09:45.12Arrowmasteri havent tried since like patch 2.1
09:45.24Gngsksadly there's no reason to try anymore
09:45.33Gngskunless you're just really motivated to hit the limit
09:45.35grimmanBut I do love rubbing it in the face of a friend of mine.
09:45.42GnarfozI hover at a total of 2k :D
09:45.59GnarfozI could probably just do dailies regularily, but I'm to lazy to even do that
09:46.34Arrowmasteronly profession i have that i can make any money off of is mining but im a warlock with no bagspace anymore and im too lazy to mine or do dailies
09:46.34grimmanHee hee. Picture message sent. It'll break his poor heart.
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09:46.49Gnarfozfunny, one of our MTs traded me 18k gold in the middle of last ID's hyjal raid xD
09:47.02Arrowmasterwhy?
09:47.16Gnarfozjust because
09:47.31GnarfozI gquit + left group right after
09:47.38Arrowmasterive done better
09:47.40grimmanIn the past week alone I've made ~7k gold. All I've done is train the necessary enchanting levels (cost me 150g) to disenchant the DM loot.
09:48.00Gnarfozsadly, half the raid didn't even notice until someone promoted me back to officer rank :x
09:48.41Arrowmasteri hearthed and logged out with an elementium bar once
09:48.44kalahassiwe have an unofficial bet-agency during raids, just for fun ;) its a good source of income :)
09:48.46Arrowmasteractually i didnt
09:49.08Arrowmasteri was going to do the hearth joke and cancel it at 1 second left but i got disconnected
09:49.12grimmankalahassi: Elaborate.
09:49.19Arrowmasterso i actually did hearth and go offline
09:49.24Gnarfozheh
09:49.34Gnarfozalso, Ore more likely than not, right?
09:49.38Arrowmasterthis was after smelting it at the forge in silithus
09:49.47Gnarfozoh
09:49.52Arrowmasterwe were summoning thundaran
09:49.58Snagolol
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09:50.12grimmanlol, getting disconnected on moments like those == epic fail.
09:50.12SnagoArrowmaster: they must've been pretty pissed
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09:50.43Arrowmasteri came back and some of the guys were rolling with laughter because the guy that was getting the thunderfury was freaking out
09:50.58kalahassi" i say this boss dies at  the 4th try tonight"  " i say we need only one" "this try whe will whipe at 30%" and gives a certain amount of money. who comes closest , gets the money
09:51.08grimmanI got a few hundred gold worth of mats (when that amount of gold was actually worth anything) to craft some crap for a random guy in trade back in the day. Unfortunately my connection at the time wasn't all too stable.
09:51.42Arrowmasterbad connections suck
09:52.13grimmanCurrent connection isn't the best either, but it's significantly better, with a great ping to the game servers. :P
09:52.19Arrowmastermy cable went out for 30 minutes right as nef it 10% on the night we got our first nemesis chest drop =(
09:52.20grimman27ms as we speak.
09:52.48grimman:D Got a response to my picture message now. "Asshole... but grats..."
09:53.19Arrowmasterbrings back bad memories thinking about that
09:53.28Arrowmasterfucking 15 minute respawn waits
09:53.40grimmanI bet.
09:53.52Arrowmasteri actually fell asleep during one
09:53.52GnarfozI have my nemesis chest somewhere, still, I think
09:54.06nevcairielremember original valestraz timing?
09:54.06Arrowmasteri have my 8/8 nemesis in my bank
09:54.11nevcairielthat was suck³
09:54.22Arrowmasternope never did vale that early
09:54.44nevcairieloh hey that was our 4 trys for the hour, see you in 1h
09:55.05Arrowmastergot my 7/8 felheart too in the bank (never got bracers)
09:55.16Arrowmaster0/9 plagueheart though =(
09:55.53nevcairieli had 5/9 T3 .. i loved the design of the set, sadly we never killed 4H
09:56.01grimmanIt'd be funny if, during mind control events, the AI hearthed you. :P
09:56.06jy`6/8 stormrage still 2/8 T3
09:56.08Arrowmasterit used to
09:56.18jy`wearing theT3 bracers until badge ones :p
09:56.35nevcairieli wore T3 bracers until i got Hyjal bracers
09:56.45Arrowmasterive heard of druids using teleport moonglade during the old mindcontrols in scholo and strat
09:56.47jy`^^
09:56.53CIA-4203jerry * r75243 10Talented/Locales/frFR.lua: Talented: update wowhead link for frFR locale now that wowhead is available in french.
09:57.04nevcairielmaybe thats why they turned that spell off during combat Arrowmaster :D
09:57.05jy`Arrowmaster: ahah really ?
09:57.42elite3vilh8 tuesdays.
09:57.45jy`tree is good for MC
09:57.57jy`AI randomly walking
09:58.32ArrowmasterAI using rain of fire to try and hit my phase shifted imp next to me
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09:58.35jy`it seems that AI cant cancel buffs :p
09:58.54elite3vilOne of my guildies got MC'd by Felmyst and chain healed all the skeletons I was tanking for 64k
09:58.55elite3vil>.>
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09:59.20Arrowmasterone of our druids got MC'd on kael (the TK one) and healed him for 10%
09:59.30Arrowmasterin 1 heal
09:59.36grimmanheh heh, in SP heroic I got MCed and took down our healer + some other soft guy.
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09:59.56grimmanThe rest were disposed of quickly by the mobs.
09:59.57Arrowmastermy rogue friend used to wipe the entire group when that happened
09:59.59grimman/cast Vanish
10:00.18Elkanois also fun in Shadowlab when you're taking down one mate after another :/
10:00.52Arrowmasterheh mindcontrol and shadowlabs, that reminds me of the first time we completed that instance on heroic
10:01.19Arrowmasterwe used a naked priest to mindcontroll mobs before the 2nd boss and the rest of the mobs would kill it then the priest
10:01.22Arrowmasterres and repeat
10:01.36Xinhuano_O
10:01.46Arrowmasterthis was before the place got a single nerf
10:01.58Xinhuani completed that place in heroic before any enrfs ;p
10:02.06SnagoI love when I get MC and the AI use Cloak of Shadows to remove it :D
10:02.12Xinhuani think my group of 5 was server second to complete heroic shatetred halls too
10:02.18SunTsuElkano: Yeah, was running lately SL to finally get the kara key, I'm not great equipped, some t4 and frozen shadowweave, but most of my team mates were level 67-69, just the healer on par with me. I thanked god the group gave up the room before blackheart ;)
10:02.45Xinhuanafk :)
10:03.11grimmanSunTsu: Sucks to be a clothie then. At least as a rogue I can do the majority of the tanking without much effort or problem.
10:03.27Arrowmasterwe had to uses pugs for 5ths in our first heroic shattered halls runs
10:03.30Elkanowhat ws with that rogue tanking Gruul? ^^
10:03.40grimmanHell... last Kara run I ended up doing the last percent of Illhoof on my own with evasion popped. :P
10:03.51SunTsugrimman: I was clothie, but as a mage nobody else would have lived after the second MC ;)
10:04.02grimmanElkano: That was... insane. Sexy even. /purr
10:04.05Arrowmastermt died on archimonde lastnight at like 13%
10:04.15Arrowmastersub rogue tanked the last 3%
10:04.25SunTsuElkano: Or the one tanking mother shahraz ;)
10:04.37charonshahraz is easier because of DW
10:04.48ArrowmasterElkano: that rogue has tanked like all of BT
10:04.49charonno idea how he managed gruul
10:05.03Arrowmasterway too much dodge is how
10:05.19grimmanNot so!
10:05.21grimmanEnough dodge.
10:05.23grimman;D
10:05.31Diaotoo good of an agi->dodge conversion
10:05.39grimman102% dodge with buffs/debuffs, apparently.
10:05.56Arrowmaster102% avoidance
10:05.59Diaododge/miss/parry
10:06.00Elkanook, having seen his avoidance it's not that impressive ;)
10:06.01Diaoactually
10:06.06Diaoit's like 76% dodge i think they had
10:06.10grimmanAh... avoidance. Same diff. :P
10:06.22Diao~14% miss and 14% parry iirc
10:06.37Arrowmasterinsect swarm and scorpid sting on boss
10:06.44Diao7% right there?
10:06.49Arrowmasteryeah
10:06.54Arrowmasterno 8
10:06.57Diaooh
10:06.59Diaoscorpid is 6%?
10:07.05grimman5%
10:07.07Arrowmasterno i thought insect was 3
10:07.07Diaoi know IS is def 2%
10:07.27grimmanIt is.
10:07.43Elkanobut still it's wow ^^
10:07.49Diaoer?
10:07.51grimmanPretty sexy, yes.
10:08.00Diaohttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27013
10:08.01Diao2% o_o
10:08.44grimmanYes?
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10:09.07Diaoi saw that armory of the rogue's tank gear
10:09.12Diaoit's all stacked with agility
10:09.33Arrowmastersub spec, and needs a pally for kings and shaman for GoA
10:09.39Diaoyep
10:09.46Diao1% bonus for being a NE too
10:10.33Diaowhat i wonder is
10:10.40Diaosince they used a lot of 8agi rather than 10agi gems
10:10.42Arrowmasterwhat agi gear was it? greens or was there blues too?
10:10.49Diaowould it be possible to do it with another race with 10 agi gems
10:10.54Diaoblues/purples
10:10.56Diaohttp://www.warcrafter.net/sandbox/57319
10:11.39Arrowmasteri bet you could do it with full green
10:12.38Diaopossibly.. if the greens provided similar amounts of agi/defense
10:12.57charonnotice how he doesn't use a trinket slot... he could easily put in moroes' pocket watch for another 2% dodge
10:13.12grimmanDiao: Since the grand total was 102%, or thereabout, and being nelf gives 1%...
10:13.18grimman102 - 1 = 101.
10:13.19Diaoyeah
10:13.20grimmanI'd say yes.
10:13.21grimmanDoable.
10:13.22grimman:P
10:13.49Diaowonder why he went with a shard of contempt
10:14.00Arrowmasterumm theres 2 trinkets there
10:14.09Diaoyes, but shard of contempt provides no avoidance :P
10:14.15charonmore hit = more threat
10:14.26grimmanDiao: His avoidance was already covered. Shard of Contempt was probably for DPS then, in order to actually hold aggro.
10:14.39Bruners<PROTECTED>
10:14.58Diaomm possibly
10:15.27Diaocombatfader is insanely buggy
10:15.32Diaoi just disabled it
10:15.49grimmanWhat's CombatFader?
10:15.54Diaopitbull module
10:15.58grimmanNowai!
10:16.02grimmanWhat does it do?
10:16.04Diaomodifies alpha of the frame
10:16.14Diaobased on whether you're in combat or ooc, or at full hp/mana or not
10:16.21Diaoor whichever frame
10:16.24Diaoparty/raid/target/etc
10:16.35grimmanUhu... can't see why that would bug out though.
10:16.40Diaoit bugs ALL the time when zoning
10:16.48Diaoand it's always that error
10:17.15Diaoonce it caused my frames to stop responding in combat (bars and such didn't update, but the numbers did)
10:17.19Diaoduring an arena
10:17.22Diaoso i got mad and disabled it
10:17.36Brunersmy targetframes was gone during the error spam
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10:18.29Diaoanyway, afk bed for me
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10:19.06grimmanI can see why that would be a problem.
10:19.14grimmanPitBull should be more like DUF. ;P
10:19.54Brunersgrimman: obviously theres something in the code thats not correct and its bugs
10:20.04grimmanObviously.
10:20.17grimmanBut that's not a problem for me.
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10:25.43breserBenötigt Stufe 40
10:25.43breserBenötigt Sporeggar - Wohlwollend
10:27.11xemacshmm somebody knows a good Auction house addon?
10:28.10grimmanbreser: Amazing! In English? :P
10:28.51breserSorry was a mt, had something different in the clipboard than I thought.
10:28.55xemacsgrimman, level40 required, needs sporregar .. ahm .. dunno the thing before revered
10:29.07breserHonored
10:29.19grimmanAha.
10:31.11SunTsuAnybody else sometimes getting blizzard's party frames with Pitbull after /rl, even though al the character details are in Pitbull's party frames?
10:32.38anenigmai never have
10:34.00grimmanPssh... some video of "Onyxia soloed".
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10:34.31grimmanComplete and utter BS, of course. The patrolling warder aggroed, and some other player gets invited all of a sudden.
10:34.32theoddone33I'd watch it if you could still stack 702808028 reckoning charges
10:35.30grimmantheoddone33: Druid. I clicked around in the progress bar, checking for the supposedly inevitable warder to see how he/she disposed of it.
10:35.32ramozgrimman: read the text at the beginning
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10:36.16theoddone33I still hate onyxia
10:36.21theoddone33even though I bet she's really easy at 70
10:37.10SnagoI wish they made a Heroic BWL
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10:37.30theoddone33I have as much luck getting in BWL groups now as I did at 60
10:37.36theoddone33which is to say .. .none
10:37.39grimmanramoz: The thing is, even though he's clearly only there for the warder, which I deduced from seeing it... it's not soloing anymore.
10:37.56grimmanI don't care if people think it's a bug or not. It's there, it adds, there are two people in the fight.
10:38.01grimman2 != 1.
10:38.19ramozthe hunter was combatressed just to kill the warder
10:38.31grimmanTwo people.
10:39.04grimmanThey could have a million people watching, but once he partakes in the fight, it's no longer soloing.
10:39.24theoddone33you can do it without pulling a warder?
10:39.24Arrowmasterwell in the 5 man gruul they have a 6th but its a naked warrior
10:39.39theoddone33so the druid probably could have done it solo anyway
10:39.42grimmanNot actually doing anything beyond filming though.
10:40.01Arrowmasteryeah that naked warrior is dead most the fight so he doesnt count
10:40.02theoddone33cave ins didn't kill him?
10:40.07theoddone33oh
10:40.10theoddone33heh
10:40.17Arrowmasterbut he got the DST
10:40.17xemacshmm somebody knows a good Auction house addon? (like auctioneer)
10:40.18grimmantheoddone33: Soloing is, in this case, will be when it takes less than the 30 minutes to kill her before the warder respaws.
10:40.25Arrowmasterxemacs: Auctioneer
10:40.46theoddone33DST would be nice
10:40.48Arrowmasterour MT can solo garr
10:40.51theoddone33but I play casters now
10:40.53Arrowmastertakes him like an hour though
10:41.05theoddone33he's a warrior?
10:41.07theoddone33or paladin
10:41.08Arrowmasteryes
10:41.23theoddone33I'm not sure how a warrior heals
10:41.28Arrowmastertrinkets
10:41.36Arrowmasterand last stand
10:41.45grimmanAnd pots... tons and tons of pots! :P
10:41.50Arrowmasteryeah
10:41.57grimman/s 'scuse me, I have to pee.
10:42.02Arrowmasterhes got the trinket that heals you when you block for doing that kinda stuff
10:42.35theoddone33I couldn't solo LBRS on my paladin
10:42.39theoddone33I QQd a little
10:42.45Arrowmasterlol
10:42.54theoddone33I didn't exactly have prot gear though
10:43.02Arrowmasterive had a few people run my alts through lbrs
10:43.32theoddone33I was fine until the ogre pulls
10:43.50Flexomirk, flashing a htc touch cruise is scary, rather dismantle a laptop and assemble it again:p
10:44.02Arrowmasterback before tbc me and 2 rogues did lbrs
10:44.13Arrowmasterwarlock and 2 rogues
10:44.23theoddone33I did it with four rogues
10:44.25theoddone33which was easy
10:44.41Arrowmasteri used an invis pot to get past the spider boss lol
10:44.52Arrowmasterwe were going for the midsummer bon fire
10:45.05Arrowmasterbut we killed all the trash on the way to it
10:45.08grimmanHuh... come to think about it, I've always had a thing for soloing/tanking stuff with my rogue. 3k HP, I used to ask to solo LBRS mobs. :P
10:45.40Arrowmasteralso used 2 or 3 rogues to kill the troll boss for me while i was standing on the other side of the wall after jumping down so i could get my christmas hat
10:46.16Arrowmasteri abuse my rogue friends
10:47.20Arrowmasterbut then again one of them has abused my rogue to follow him around has he soloed instances i would die if i tried to attack anything in just so i could DE for him
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10:59.49Gnarfoz<grimman> Not actually doing anything beyond filming though. <-- hyppocrit. the hunter (who's dead, then lives for the warder, and is dead again afterwards) also does NOTHING besides killing a buggy add (which only adds if you do ony with less than 5 people).
11:00.52Arrowmasterhuh?
11:00.54grimmanDoing nothing and doing something...
11:00.59grimmanSeems like a world of difference to me.
11:01.08Arrowmasterit automaticly ads if you do ony with less than 5? thats weird
11:01.21grimmanI know if I had zero impact on a fight, I wouldn't be chosen for any more raids within my guild.
11:02.39grimmanHowever, if I was tasked with dealing with an add that would make or break an encounter...
11:02.49grimmanI hope you see the difference.
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11:05.18Arrowmasterhow does the druid do damage in phase2?
11:06.13Vulcanusit mewmews the target or else it gets the hose again
11:07.10Arrowmasterrofl
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11:26.56FtH|Daemonaanyone can riddle me what causes this chain of errors? http://ace.pastey.net/88507
11:27.05FtH|Daemonai updated all but auctioneer / enh-tooltip
11:29.01ramozseems like bulkmail2inbox is messing up the tooltip for enh-tooltime and itempricetooltip
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11:29.18ramoztooltip
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11:30.42FtH|Daemonahmpf
11:34.33FtH|Daemonais there an official thread for bulkmail? seems my search_fu is failing
11:36.36FtH|Daemonahaha... ok .. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Author:hyperactiveChipmunk
11:36.45FtH|Daemonawe use the wiki now to report bugs or what ...
11:42.01ramozlol
11:46.18[Ammo]hyperchip has been missing for almost 6 months now
11:48.41ramozmissing
11:48.43ramozor offline?
11:49.25anenigmahmm.  stuck using DBM with the guild, apparently they like omen but not bigwigs
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11:49.58vhaarranenigma: DBMFTLBBQ will fake the DBM version checks, just install that and BigWigs
11:50.09anenigmahmm, tempting
11:50.45FtH|Daemonai dropped the not-so-hyperactiveChipmunk a gmail
11:50.50anenigmai'm still a trial, so for now I'll play along properly and run double bars.  and then i'll install dbmftlbbq
11:51.11vhaarrI wouldn't do it because BW is a LOT better than DBM, I would do it to spite the fucknuts that force you onto one particular addon when good alternatives exist
11:51.17FtH|Daemona"But it does those fancy dnd boss whispers"
11:51.25FtH|Daemona"But it has Battleground timers"
11:51.31FtH|Daemonai am so sick of those arguments...
11:51.34anenigmahehe
11:51.45Chompersrbm has that boss wisper stuff
11:51.49Chompersthat works with bigwigs
11:51.58vhaarrSimpleBossWhisperer works fine, no need to install RBM for that
11:52.05FtH|DaemonaChompers ... you didnt get the irony did you?
11:52.05Chomperseven better!
11:52.22Chompersi did daemona
11:52.35Chomperswhy would a boss mod need pvp stuff, it's stupid
11:53.06VulcanusFtH|Daemona: I use DBM for the fancy BG timers, but I disabled all other modules in the addon config ;p
11:53.26FtH|Daemonathen you are better of just using capping...
11:53.30FtH|Daemonainstead of dbm
11:53.32Vulcanushm?
11:54.08FtH|DaemonaCapping1 day agoBattlegrounds/PvPBattleground timers and other goodies.TotalPackage75147
11:54.19Vulcanusis it possible to click away those bars and announce them to /bg like the DBM module does?
11:54.37Gnarfozclick away: don't think so, announce: yes
11:54.55Vulcanusugh, I always click away the horde bars so I only see alliance ones :p
11:54.58FtH|Daemonaas Gnarfoz saod
11:54.59Gnarfozctrl-click for bg, shift for say, alt for yell local echo or smthn
11:55.15vhaarryou can turn off Alliance/Horde bars, I think
11:55.17GnarfozI think you can pre-filter to not show horde bars in AV, can't it?
11:55.21Vulcanushm
11:55.32[Ammo]horde bars are important for defence :)
11:55.42[Ammo]50 seconds to go, lets go cap it back and make em cry
11:55.47Gnarfozdunno, I have both turned on, obviously you want the enemy bars, if you decide to only show half of the bars
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11:55.49Vulcanussince when does alliance defend in AV
11:56.14Vulcanussemi-serious question, I haven't pvp'd for months and months now
11:56.47[Ammo]I almost always play def
11:56.53[Ammo]meet more horde that way
11:57.11anenigmaanyone know how/if DailyQuestViewer works?
11:57.20FtH|Daemonanope you cant filter capping
11:57.29Vulcanuswhen Im in AV I just want either fast honour or bottlenecking at the horde base, so I just run to galv run to drek win
12:00.41Gnarfozgalv > drek > win is what I do, too. if I'm on my rogue
12:01.10Gnarfozmy warlock is equipped so badly that I'll die from dots and tower dmg on the way down, so I'm stuck with zerging/defending =[
12:01.13evlI idle
12:01.15evlIt rocks
12:01.34Vulcanusrofflecopter
12:01.46VulcanusIm gonna pvp with my ret pally when it gets to 70 :D
12:02.04Vulcanusthe AS1/2 swords look so friggin awesome
12:14.28digmousexinhuan:ping
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12:17.35anenigmaworst thing about downtime, is me getting bored and installing new addons.  42 new addons installed.  UI is going to be very bloated.
12:20.49digmouseI got 201 addons installed
12:22.56anenigmai'm on 268 now
12:23.05anenigmaquite a few i should be able to remove though
12:23.34CIA-4203digmouse * r75245 10GhostPulse/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
12:23.34CIA-42GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-27
12:23.35CIA-42-zhCN/TW update
12:23.51digmouseI got around 280-300 at peak but reduced a lot since I broke my HDD last month
12:24.40charonanenigma: start hacking on your own addons. broken UIs are usually faster than bloated UIs ;)
12:25.05anenigmahaha
12:25.33anenigmawell i actually have a few multiple addons now
12:25.40anenigmai'll test tomorrow to see which i prefer
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12:31.23purlcharon: aw, gee
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12:37.35CIA-42BigBrother:
12:37.35CIA-42- update zhTW
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12:58.36purldigmouse: i haven't seen 'xinhua'
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13:03.42CIA-42LibKeyBound-1.0:
13:03.42CIA-42-- Perhaps moving notes to end will make AutoDoc happy
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13:03.50CIA-42BigWigs:
13:03.50CIA-42- add Muru missing entire pre-localization.
13:03.50CIA-42- Muru zhCN update.
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14:02.44CIA-42DrDamage:
14:02.44CIA-42- Added Tree of Life aura effects into healing spells (It will always use your spirit for the calculation even if the aura is not yours, even if it's not exact it should be relatively accurate)
14:02.44CIA-42- Fixed a few idols not applying correctly
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14:11.41kenlyric~kenlyric
14:11.42purlextra, extra, read all about it, kenlyric is <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack
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14:27.00evlI need an addon that can save/load keybindings and button positions across accounts, any tips?
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14:30.00kenlyric?
14:30.15kenlyricoh, accounts
14:30.18kenlyricno
14:30.23kenlyricjust copy them
14:30.54CIA-4203toadkiller * r75252 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0.lua:
14:30.54CIA-42LibKeyBound-1.0:
14:30.54CIA-42-- Maybe AutoDoc wants notes to be tabbed?
14:31.43AckisWorkHmmm, 42 world, 17 us, 10th us horde... lol
14:32.05Dark_Elfhttp://www.wowfix.com/article-23657
14:33.05AckisWorkI know
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14:33.16AckisWork<-- used to play w/ them back when they were bad
14:33.23Tinyboom./spank Kemayo:)
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14:33.43ToadkillerBut then Ackis left them and they ... became good ...
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14:35.16AckisWorklol
14:35.20AckisWorkno i wasn't in their guild :P
14:35.48AckisWorkThey were a reform of about 3 guilds on laughing skull shortly before I left wow and my pally
14:36.03AckisWorkthis was just around the time nef was killed first
14:39.12ToadkillerAh nef.  How I miss the 10 minutes of coding you gave me every 15 minutes
14:40.07AckisWorklol
14:40.12AckisWorkremember vael?
14:40.19AckisWork1 hour of attempts, and you're done
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14:41.25Pkekyo|anyone here been in the US military forces?
14:41.44TNSeHi
14:41.46StanzillaNihilum has glaives now ^_^
14:41.50Pkekyo|hi TNSe
14:41.54TNSewho joined them Stanzilla? :P
14:42.09Stanzilladunno..just saw 3 glaives on the KJ kill shot
14:42.20TNSeso 3 new players with glaives joined XD
14:42.20CIA-4203toadkiller * r75253 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0.lua:
14:42.20CIA-42LibKeyBound-1.0:
14:42.20CIA-42-- Is indenting all examples at least 1 tab the answer? AutoDoc, why do you vex me so?
14:42.24Stanzillanah
14:42.28Stanzillaone has both
14:42.42TNSeso they had 0 4 weeks ago, 4 today? :P
14:42.46TNSeor
14:42.49TNSedid you say 3 glaives
14:42.51TNSeor 3 players
14:43.36Toadkiller3 glaives...
14:44.20Gnarfoz5 glaives, 2 full sets and a half, IIRC?
14:44.24Pkekyo|none of you bloody yanks served your country?! :P
14:45.05Gnarfozhttp://gfx.nihilum.mousesports.com/news/2008/may/kiljaedendown.jpg yay it's 4
14:46.00TNSeokay...
14:46.04TNSefromt hat screenshot I reember 3
14:46.14TNSeCloze, Kungen and Buzzkill
14:46.23TNSehas nihilum changed a shitload of players recently?
14:46.40TNSeAhoq
14:46.55ravagernlwhat event is similar to player_target_changed but for focus?
14:46.55Gnarfozquite some, yes, but not *that* many
14:47.11TNSeI can only remember 4, maybe 5 but one namei s hard to read
14:47.13TNSeof the players
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14:47.34Gnarfozthe names are hard to read? they'r HUGE
14:47.49TNSeif any of them had glaives it would have to be cloze..
14:47.56Pkekyo|nihilum is overrated as poops
14:48.08AckisWorkwe just got our second set of glaives by having a dps war transfer in with them lol
14:48.26TNSeoverrated and still did world 3rd on kj...
14:48.30CIA-4203ag 07Ace3 * r75254 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: added default value to Sort By
14:48.59TNSeonly problem I got with nihilum is their attitude
14:49.09AckisWorkare servers down today?
14:49.16TNSeatleast sk gaming tells the truth (that they spend way too much time on raiding)
14:49.22Gnarfozyou've got no "problem" with them since you probably don't deal with them in any matter, anyway? ^^
14:49.31Gnarfozbesides reading about them =]
14:49.51TNSeit was a response to what Pkekyo| said
14:50.15Gnarfozhe says a lot of random stuff, anyway ;D
14:50.22Pkekyo|TNSe: still don't see it as a reason for them to be practically worshipped...
14:50.24AckisWorkso on friday some dude hacked out forums, deleted/changed all the threads to porn, changed everything, etc.... last night he hacked out vent server and started kicking people out, etc... pretty lame
14:50.33Pkekyo|and yes, I'm more random than RNG
14:50.44TNSePkekyo|, I agree on that patr :P
14:50.48Gnarfozrandom RNG is random
14:50.50TNSebut overrated is a bit hard to call it
14:50.51SunTsuAckisWork: At least you got pr0n for it ;)
14:50.58AckisWorkit was gay pr0n
14:51.11GnarfozAckisWork: 'hacking' = same passwords for forum admin & ts admin huh? :p
14:51.25SunTsuAckisWork: OK, that#s enough, sue him ;)
14:51.27Pkekyo|TNSe: not really...ok, they're dedicated (nolifers? :P ) and profit from it...nothing godlike about that
14:51.44AckisWorknah he used an exploit in the boards to get in, and managed to get he pwd from a PM
14:51.59TNSenothing godlike indeed
14:52.08TNSestill, 3rd world kill on kj :P
14:52.19AckisWork*only* third world kill
14:52.20AckisWorklol
14:52.22GnarfozAckis: ok, that's even lamer xD
14:52.47AckisWorkGnarfoz: apparently there was an anti-harassment law passed in the US so some people are following up on that
14:53.02Pkekyo|TNSe: they weren't even first and still you praise them... overrated! :p
14:53.11TNSeI dont praise them
14:53.12AckisWorkhe provided pr0n to underage people, destroyed intellectual property, misused telecommuncations devices
14:53.24Gnarfozwell, wrong forums oftware apparently ;D
14:53.25Pkekyo|saying that I'm harsh = praising them, now shush :p
14:53.26SunTsu.o0( There's too much worshipped in high raiders, anyway )
14:53.51AckisWorkit was outdated by a minor patch revision only
14:54.23Pkekyo|I hate high-end raiders...won't let me play with them! :p
14:54.33AckisWorkNot our fault you're bad! :P
14:54.57AckisWorkping Toadkiller
14:55.08Gnarfozterribad go this way ---->
14:55.15Pkekyo|AckisWork: I'm not bad, I just don't play :p
14:55.19grimman*sigh*
14:55.22AckisWorklol
14:55.28grimmanGonffbar is just so fail it's unbelievable.
14:55.58Pkekyo|RL grabbed me by the balls and pulled me away from the joys of Gruul's :<
14:55.58Pkekyo|grimman: err?
14:55.58grimman10-20% of the ticks it just hangs and does nothing.
14:56.45SunTsuPkekyo|: Saw too much asshats in high-end gear... For example a druid in t5/t6 who couldn't hold aggro against a frost mage in blues and 4 parts kara gear at all. who had about 200-300 tps and always opened the sheeps and complained about it
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14:57.40AckisWorkI'm at the point where people compliment me on my alt... lol we do 5 mans with a few guildies alts and a pug and they're in awe of our gear =/
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14:58.16Pkekyo|SunTsu: when you've got a guild carrying you, you can clear sunwell and still be a tits up retarded arsehat
14:58.20Pkekyo|dinner --> brb
14:58.37AckisWorkNo, you can't be carried in sunwell
14:58.52AckisWork1 person dies or DCs on M'uru = wipe
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15:00.30AckisWorksomeone suggested autobar to me as a way to make my life easier opposed to using 12 million macros (aka http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6762839883&sid=1)
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15:03.05SunTsuAckisWork: I use AutoBar and it clears up a lot of bar space. You even can put macros on bars, so you can have the best of both worlds
15:04.04AckisWorkI think I have 10 buttons on my bars right now lol
15:04.43AckisWorkI have 1 macro that uses all the healthstones out there, I just want the tooltip/icon to automagically update when I've used one instead of showing the highest
15:05.35SunTsuAckisWork: Yeah, Autobar does that if you activate "shuffle" on items
15:05.48AckisWorkwill it do it in combat?
15:06.15Gnarfozobviously it can't
15:06.22Gnarfoz;)
15:06.35SunTsuAckisWork: Yeah ;) It does it by moving the item onto the bag space the item you used was before
15:06.49Gnarfozerr? no?
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15:07.07Gnarfozyou have to have it pop out and click one you haven't used, yet O_O
15:07.11AckisWorkwell with macros you can do: #showtooltip;/use [nocombat] foo [combat] bar and it'll automagically update tool tips
15:07.13Gnarfozat least that's how my current autobar works
15:07.26SunTsuGnarfoz: Activated "shuffle"? ;)
15:07.28Gnarfozyou don't need #showtooltip
15:07.46AckisWorkregardless I'll play with it tonight
15:07.47GnarfozSunTsu: I've never seen "shuffle" anywhere in AutoBar.
15:08.07GnarfozSunTsu: do you by any chance mean 'reorder on use'?
15:08.10SunTsuGnarfoz: It's relatively new. And with that set it works just as I described
15:08.20SunTsuGnarfoz: Nope, I don't
15:08.30AckisWorkblizz went overkill with disabling certain options =/
15:08.32Gnarfozstill, it won't show in combat on the button that you used it
15:08.56AckisWorkis it really an issue for if/elses on /use ?
15:09.16SunTsuAckisWork: Well, all I can say is: Just give it a try
15:09.25AckisWorkyah I will for sure
15:09.27ravagernlIs the author of kgpanels here?
15:09.41durcyn~seen kagaro
15:09.42purlkagaro is currently on #wowace (1h 23m 2s) #curseforge (1h 23m 2s), last said: 'Zyuu: hahahahahaah'.
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15:10.11kagarosorry my echo was ohh, what did you need?
15:10.15kagaro*off
15:10.27CIA-4203next96 07ag_Options * r75258 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_Options-koKR.lua:
15:10.27CIA-42ag_Options :
15:10.27CIA-42- Update locale koKR
15:10.31ravagernlkagaro, how can I make a background panel for targettarget?
15:10.53kagarolike any other panel, depdends on your unit frames as to what to anchor/parent to
15:11.42ravagernlkagaro: I'm using pitbull so I guess I can not anchor it to that can I?
15:11.49SunTsuToadkiller: Is there any news on progress for idols/librams in autobar or did I miss something?
15:12.23kagaroyou gota figure out the frame name
15:12.35evlI need an addon that can save/load keybindings and button positions across accounts, any tips?
15:12.53kagaroevl: capsule
15:12.54SunTsuevl: ActionBarSaver
15:13.00evlwhich one is better
15:13.03evl:P
15:13.05kagaroshrug
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15:13.09SunTsuevl: That depneds on your needs
15:13.22evlaccount 1 buttons + bindings -> account 2
15:13.23evlpretty much
15:13.27evlcarbon copy
15:13.29SunTsuevl: It's not that hard to look at both and decide for yourself
15:13.43evlSunTsu: Neither is winning the war on terror
15:13.46evlOH WAIT, JOKE
15:13.58evlthanks to you both, I shall investigate
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15:14.50ravagernlkagaro: and that's the hard part, since pitbull can create it's unitframes in a different order, how can I create a background for targettarget without the name of a frame, by using a script maybe?
15:15.28kagaroyou will have to, and i think there is an api in pitbull to get the frame
15:15.32Snagohttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917.msg219737#new lol, JWU isn't working for him. "cant you pls do a c++ version of that ?"
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15:17.21VonhintenHOME`Someone needs to stop being an idiot and update their JRE
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15:18.14SnagoCoverting to c++ would obviously be less work for him :P
15:18.25Snagos/cover/conver/
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15:18.53Matrix110Java is evil though :P
15:19.28ravagernlkagaro: maybe hook PitBull:UpdateWackyFrames() or something?
15:20.00kagaropossibly, as ckknight
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15:25.08Pkekyo|so, any yanks here that served their country?
15:25.46SunTsuPkekyo|: You mean, paying taxes? ;)
15:26.27Pkekyo|SunTsu: I mean serving in the armed forces
15:26.31AckisWorkor jail time?
15:26.53Pkekyo|I mean serving in the armed forces
15:27.00Stanzillaping Arrowmaster
15:27.13AckisWorkwe're being sarcastic... I know sarcasm on the internet! ahhhhhh
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15:27.35Pkekyo|dumb != sarcastic :p
15:28.33SunTsuWell, I served my country quite well by working in a hospital for 15 months, I think ;)
15:28.43evlBoth Capsule and ActionBarSaver worked great, now I need something to transfer my keybindings, any tips?
15:29.01Pkekyo|SunTsu: the one dumbass comment that also has a bit of legitimacy :p
15:29.45AckisWorkehh what are the trash mobs before KJ called?
15:29.54AckisWorkthe mini-doomwalkers
15:30.29ravagernlkagaro: can I use registerunitwatch?
15:30.49kagarofrom libRock?
15:31.12ravagernlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Object_SecureUnitButtonTemplate
15:31.38ravagernlor does that require the secureunitbuttontemplatebutton
15:32.13ravagernlRegisterUnitWatch from UnitWatch.lua in FrameXML is a mechanism that will show or hide your frame depending on the existence of the unit defined in the 'unit' attribute.
15:33.00kagaroRegisterUnitWatch requires you to pass a secureunit template, your kgpanel is not one of those
15:34.09ravagernl:(
15:35.00kagaroyou could register for UnitTarget events and check if targettarget exist on the event
15:35.44kagaroor try diff unit frames so tot stays contant frame
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15:37.29CIA-4203krakhaan * r75259 10AFX/ (AFX.toc readme.txt soundlib.lua):
15:37.29CIA-42AFX:
15:37.29CIA-42- Added sounds (contributions from Immolate)
15:38.14SunTsuevl: You can just copy the local bindings cache file, I think
15:38.28evlSunTsu: oh, thanks
15:39.26CIA-4203batrick * r75260 10Spellcraft/ (23 files in 2 dirs): Spellcraft: Updated to v1.115
15:40.07Pkekyo|SOME OF YOU YANKS GO SERVE YOUR COUNTRY DAMNIT :p
15:40.33dylanmPkekyo|: What are you on about?
15:41.14Elkanothe question is not "What can I do for my country?" but "what can my country do for me?"!
15:41.29Pkekyo|dylanm: I need comparison of the PACA Body Armor sizes and BDU sizes, so someone go join Delta! :p
15:42.15dylanmOh. I have a friend who would probably know but if I told him that it was for some random guy on the internet he'd probably punch me in the throat.
15:42.33Snagolol
15:42.47Pkekyo|dylanm: why? o.O'
15:43.07Snagoyou're must likely a taliban gathering intel, duh!
15:43.11dylanmHe's just hardcore like that.
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15:43.25Pkekyo|dylanm: you mean a moron?
15:43.37Pkekyo|Snago: nah, just looking for kevlar
15:43.56charonplanning to get shot anytime soon?
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15:44.23Snagoohh.. It's for the bouncer job?
15:44.28AckisWorklmao on our kill video you can see me go into angel form just as we kill Entropius
15:44.28Pkekyo|aye
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15:45.09Pkekyo|Snago: and you say -I'm- the one gathering intel? :p
15:45.56SnagoI only remembered because you bounced for me :D
15:46.04Pkekyo|oh, right
15:46.08Pkekyo|bounces about for a while
15:46.36Pkekyo|:>
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15:47.21ravagernlhow do I check if a frame is hidden?
15:47.44Snagoframe:IsVisible()?
15:47.50Pkekyo|lmfao...just watched a chick get strangled with her own thong
15:48.03Snagoo.O
15:48.14Pkekyo|best movie ever
15:49.36AckisWorkahhahahaha
15:50.06Pkekyo|Kill Buljo > all
15:50.14charonPkekyo|: don't knives go through kevlar? i don't know about norway, but as a bouncer here in switzerland i'd probably try to get some knife protection, if anything...
15:51.08Pkekyo|charon: afaik, stab vests are made out of kevlar; wether or not there's something special about'em I don't know though
15:51.15AckisWorkmy gf just got the flower I sent her lol :D
15:51.56Pkekyo|gz, I guess?
15:51.59Funkeh`1?
15:53.16Funkeh`AckisWork, hi mr cheap
15:53.25Pkekyo|AckisWork: get a job and buy several flowers...fagballs
15:53.44ravagernlkagaro: if arg1 == "target" and UnitExists"targettarget" then self:Show() else self:Hide() end
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15:54.11cncfanaticshello all
15:54.12GnarfozI'd say he has a job, reading his nick and seeing his hostmask...
15:54.28Pkekyo|Gnarfoz: then he should fucking get a better one...ONE flower?
15:54.29Pkekyo|>.<
15:54.36Pkekyo|cheapass mcfuckstick :p
15:54.40GnarfozPkekyo|: what the fuck do you care, stfu
15:54.41VonhintenHOME`lol
15:54.43SunTsuAnd sending a single flower isn't really a failure if done right ;)
15:54.46ravagernlkagaro: however, it does not directly dissappear when I clear my target
15:54.53AckisWorklmao
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15:54.59AckisWorkI didn't mean flower I meant flowers lol
15:55.28AckisWorkshe had surgery yesterday so I sent her some, a couple online that she knows well sent her some, and another friend sent her some... she got a bunch today lol
15:55.40Pkekyo|oh
15:55.41Pkekyo|right
15:55.43Funkeh`aww
15:55.49Funkeh`is she alright?
15:56.11AckisWorkin a lot of pain but it went well
15:56.23AckisWorkshe has pain killers though
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15:57.25DARKGuymornin' :)
15:57.47AckisWorkmornin
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15:57.55DARKGuyhey AckisWork ^^
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15:58.02Pkekyo|g'mornin
15:58.07DARKGuysame :)
15:58.29DARKGuyhaha, this is funny -> "hello, i was playing a game for about 45 minutes and after i shut the game down i touched the heatsink of my graphics card and i burned myself"
15:58.45CIA-4203dodge 072.1 * r75261 10CoolDownButtons/ (10 files in 3 dirs): CoolDownButtons: v2.1 commit, lots of changes. not working yet.
15:59.19Pkekyo|DARKGuy: tell him to stick his willie in there and see if it's still hot
15:59.32DARKGuylmao Pkekyo|
15:59.40DARKGuysad thing it's a real forum thread somewhere else
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15:59.53UhuruHi
16:00.00DARKGuyHi
16:00.12UhuruIs Charon author of mangler here ?
16:00.18charonno.
16:00.19charonhides
16:00.23Pkekyo|DARKGuy: need linkage
16:00.27Pkekyo|Hi
16:00.30Uhurulol
16:00.34DARKGuyPkekyo|: http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread9030.html
16:00.38Olisonag`: since your last commit to the aUF brancht, TOT won't display
16:00.45Pkekyo|bounces around charon so noone can see him
16:01.13charonis glad Pkekyo| bought an oversized ballistic vest because nobody told him about sizes!
16:01.31Uhurucharon since 0.3 i can't configure mangler with deucecommander and it seems there is no UI to configure options, is this "normal" ?
16:01.50Uhurumangler don't appear in deucecommander
16:01.53charonUhuru: i ripped out the ace2 stuff and replaced it with ace3's support to hook into the blizzard menu
16:01.59charonso just go interface -> addons, it should be there
16:02.13Uhuruooooooooh
16:02.14Pkekyo|"i REALLY need a heatsink with a fan on it for my cpu(i have a 2.8 ghz cpu so it gets hot)." bwahahahah
16:02.18Uhuru<-- noob
16:02.26Uhuruthank's charon
16:02.29charonnp
16:02.32Pkekyo|charon: didn't buy a PACA yet, can't afford it 'till I get my first paycheck atleast :P
16:02.35DARKGuylol Pkekyo| yeah
16:02.41SunTsuPkekyo|: And then he complains that he had his finger in the fan ;)
16:02.44AckisWorklol I got her crying
16:02.54charoni wasn't even aware deuce commander had a graphical config for mangler, i thought it was just the chat command :)
16:02.58Pkekyo|AckisWork: shame on you fagballs
16:03.08AckisWorktears of joy :P
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16:03.42AckisWorkPSST: http://ackis.myminicity.com/tra (I'll build you a house if you click!)
16:04.03DARKGuyHe did :D
16:04.14Pkekyo|I'm afraid of clicking :<
16:04.17Uhurui think deucecommander gives UI config for all ace2 addons that needs chat commands
16:04.28DARKGuyPkekyo|: not even if it's pr0n? :D
16:04.35AckisWorkit's sfw
16:04.43DARKGuyya
16:04.53AckisWorkif I ever post bad links I put a (nsfw) beside it
16:04.58Uhurucharon a "test" button should be cool ;)
16:05.06CIA-4203scorpion * r75262 10Analyst/ (Analyst.toc Locale-zhTW.lua):
16:05.06CIA-42Analyst:
16:05.06CIA-42- Added zhTW localization
16:05.28charonUhuru: point
16:05.59Pkekyo|DARKGuy: no need, really
16:06.08charonUhuru: OTOH, how hard is it to mangle some poor basilisk's face outside shattrath? :)
16:06.14CIA-4203maqjav * r75263 10Omen/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Omen: added the spanish translation for the complete addon
16:06.33DARKGuyoh :(
16:06.33Pkekyo|charon: extremely
16:06.47Uhuruextremely dangerous !!
16:06.53charonPkekyo|: watch out or you might need a mangle protection vest *cough*
16:07.46Pkekyo|rofl
16:07.52Uhurucharon the "show labels button" don't work on my frFR client, it only show the timer, no matter if the option is ticked or not
16:07.57Pkekyo|anyone seen this 'knife proof' t-shirt stuff?
16:08.45Olison~seen ag`
16:08.49purlag` is currently on #wowuidev (2h 26m 38s) #wowace (2h 26m 38s), last said: 'yeah, it's needed'.
16:09.01evlWhat would be best, level LW + Skinning and then go Enchanting at 70 or level Enchanting + Skinning and drop Skinning for LW at 70?
16:09.01AckisWorkisn't that t-shirt the one chuck norris wears? oh wait, that's his skin
16:09.02Olison:<
16:09.06AckisWorkahaha /me facepalms
16:09.49Pkekyo|cocks the shotgun and takes careful aim at AckisWork
16:09.53charonUhuru: can you go to http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mangler/create-ticket/ and make tickets about things you find? that way i won't forget when i get home from work
16:09.57ramozevl: skinning and enchanting to 70
16:10.08ramozsave all the skin and then lvl leatherworking at 70
16:10.14evlmkaay
16:10.21AckisWorkhttp://wowwebstats.com/v6ooxkcf1jwzk
16:10.26ramozthen you can disenchant all the quest greens and making lvling enchanting alot easier
16:10.29ramozdamn expensive if not
16:10.36Estilwonder why they are doing extended maintenance
16:10.45Uhurucharon ok
16:11.09charonthanks
16:11.13Pkekyo|what's a deltoid? :p
16:11.13Uhurucharon if i'm not in a group / raid and make a mangle on a mob, it should show my name on the mangler bar ?
16:11.16Pkekyo|~dict deltoid
16:11.42*** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F5416F.versanet.de)
16:11.42profalbertlike a "^" and a "v" over another
16:11.53charonUhuru: the label is always "Mob Name - Druid Name" or some such, independent of group type. if no labels show while the show labels thing is ticked, that's indeed a bug
16:12.03charonhowever, note that libbars has some issues with clipping so the labels might stick out
16:12.17Uhuruok i would open a tocket, thank's
16:12.27Uhuruticket
16:12.41AckisWork~dict penis
16:12.45AckisWorkahahahahah
16:13.11AckisWorkwow I just felt like I was in grade 3 looking up dirty words in the dictionary
16:13.31sacarascand you only went for penis?
16:13.42AckisWorkno but it's a funny word
16:13.49AckisWorkI didn't know about ~dict
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16:13.56AckisWork~emulate ackis
16:13.57purlTypo fix.
16:13.59AckisWork~arl
16:13.59purlarl is, like, a poorly named add-on, 95% dry-coded developed by Ackis.  Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however.
16:14.07AckisWorkThose are all I know
16:14.26Pkekyo|AckisWork: what's so funny 'bout penises?
16:14.36VonhintenHOME`penii?
16:15.09Pkekyo|curious how VonhintenHOME`always comes around when the word 'penis' is said twice or more
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16:15.40VonhintenHOME`interesting point
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16:16.11AckisWorkPkekyo|: well the size of yours is funny :P
16:16.43Toadkiller~AutoBar
16:16.52Toadkillermmm how do I add an entry
16:17.03AckisWorkpurl, AutoBar is sexy
16:17.03purlAckisWork: okay
16:17.05Toadkillerpurl help me!
16:17.07AckisWork~AutoBar
16:17.07purlhmm... autobar is sexy
16:17.26Toadkillerpurl, help
16:17.44Toadkillerlame bot
16:17.45Pkekyo|AckisWork: my penis being abnormally large is NOT something to joke about! it's really a problem :(
16:18.38Toadkillerpurl, AutoBar rocks
16:18.49Toadkiller~AutoBar
16:18.50purlit has been said that autobar is sexy
16:19.00Toadkiller~AutoBar
16:19.01purlhmm... autobar is sexy
16:19.09nevcairielyou just do "factoid is <something>"
16:19.17Lywellyn~Toadkiller
16:19.18purlit has been said that toadkiller is a noob.
16:19.22Lywellyn:D
16:19.24Toadkillersweet
16:19.25cladhaire~cladhaire
16:19.26purli heard cladhaire is the current author of WatchDog, PerfectRaid, and a number of smaller addons.  He is also a core developer of the Ace project. People in #wowace also know him as 'Mr. Lightningfingers.'  To find cladhaire, one should look on wowinterface, as he no longer frequents the wowace channel or forum.
16:19.26Pkekyo|~Pkekyo|
16:19.31Pkekyo|o.O'
16:19.31Lywellyn~Ackis
16:19.32purli guess ackis is Emperor of dry-coding typos.
16:19.33AckisWork~ackis
16:19.34purlhmm... ackis is Emperor of dry-coding typos.
16:19.35AckisWorklol
16:19.39Lywellynha~
16:19.42nevcairielmr Lightningfingers?
16:19.44Lywellyn~emulate Ackis
16:19.44purlTypo fix.
16:19.45cladhaire~emulate cladhaire
16:19.45purlACTION shakes, berries fall to the ground.
16:19.48cladhairelol
16:19.51cladhairelove that one
16:19.57Lywellynwait, what? lol
16:20.17Pkekyo|xD
16:20.22Toadkillerpurl, AutoBar is an addon developed by ToadKiller, who is a total noob.
16:20.23purl...but autobar is already something else...
16:20.41Toadkillerpurl, dont argue
16:20.48Kalrothhaha
16:20.49nevcairielwonder how long Toadkiller needs to figure out how to overwrite factoids
16:20.50AckisWork~emulate Pkekyo|
16:20.51purlI have a tiny penis.
16:20.55sacarasclol
16:21.15Pkekyo|:)
16:21.24AckisWorkpurl, no AutoBar is an addon developed by ToadKiller (who worships Ackis).  ToadKiller is a total noob who likes cheese.
16:21.24purlokay, AckisWork
16:21.29AckisWork~AutoBar
16:21.29purlautobar is probably an addon developed by ToadKiller (who worships Ackis).  ToadKiller is a total noob who likes cheese.
16:21.32nevcairieloh boo Ackis
16:21.49AckisWorklol
16:22.01StanzillaTypo Fix!
16:22.02ramoz~nevcairiel
16:22.03purlhmm... nevcairiel is 'awesome'
16:22.03Lywellynrofl
16:22.06Kalrothpurl: Autobar is also And Toadkiller is a total cheese who likes noobs.
16:22.07purlKalroth: okay
16:22.07ramozfail.
16:22.12Toadkillerpurl, no AutoBar is an addon developed by ToadKiller, who is a total noob and loves good cheese but loves Chocolate above almost all else.
16:22.12purlToadkiller: okay
16:22.21ramozpoor purl
16:22.28Kalroth~snuggle
16:22.33Kalrothwhat, no snuggles?!
16:22.35AckisWorkpurl is getting mollested
16:22.42Toadkiller~AutoBar
16:22.42purlwell, autobar is AutoBar
16:22.46LywellynxD
16:22.46Toadkillerlol
16:22.58Kalroth~Toadkiller
16:22.58purltoadkiller is probably a noob.
16:23.01Kalroth^
16:23.06Lywellynbut wait!  how did purl change what it says?  no one told it to! ;)
16:23.06Toadkillerailed it in one
16:23.14Kalroth~nevcairiel
16:23.15purlrumour has it, nevcairiel is 'awesome'
16:23.16AckisWork~Lywellyn
16:23.16purli heard lywellyn is someone who worships Ackis.
16:23.17Kalrothwtf
16:23.24LywellynIndeed.
16:23.26Kalrothnevcairiel: You hacked purl!
16:23.33nevcairieli did not!
16:23.45Kalrothpurl: nevcairiel is also . But not really.
16:23.45purlKalroth: cannot alter locked factoids
16:23.45Toadkillerthe devil made him do it so he is innocent
16:23.49KalrothD'oh
16:23.54KalrothDid so, nev!
16:24.02Lywellynlocked?
16:24.03Lywellynlol
16:24.13nevcairielI locked it once, because Fisker- kept changing it
16:24.19nevcairielbut i didnt initially set it to that!
16:24.20Lywellynhow j00 do that?
16:25.01nevcairielknowledge is power
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16:25.08CIA-4203elsia * r75264 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua Recount.lua Recount.toc Tracker.lua):
16:25.08CIA-42Recount:
16:25.08CIA-42- Bandaids for AV boss bugs
16:25.08CIA-42- Fixed so that former party members are removed from sync version list.
16:25.08CIA-42- Fixed X-Embeds for ace3
16:25.08nevcairieland i dont share my power
16:25.09nevcairiel:)
16:25.21Lywellyn~Lywellyn
16:25.21purlrumour has it, lywellyn is someone who worships Ackis, but can't seem to match his typos.
16:25.25Lywellyn=D
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16:25.28Toadkillernevcairiel hey did u put in http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibKeyBound-1.0 and http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibStickyFrames-2.0 yet?
16:25.41CIA-4203lahow * r75265 10Cartographer_QuestInfo/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
16:25.42CIA-42Cartographer_QuestInfo:
16:25.42CIA-42- update npc names (from wowhead, wowbox)
16:25.47nevcairielno, and i dont intend to anytime soon
16:25.54Toadkillerlazy imo
16:26.04Toadkillerbusy at work?
16:26.15AckisWorkonly admins can lock/unlock :P
16:26.28nevcairielthats not entirely true ackis :P
16:26.49SunTsuToadkiller: Is there any news on idols/librams in AutoBar? Or did I miss it already? ;)
16:26.51CIA-4203profalbert * r75266 10Parrot/Data/Cooldowns.lua:
16:26.51CIA-42Parrot:
16:26.52CIA-42- properbly fixed "Spell ready"-conditions in Triggers (Riposite, etc)
16:27.40AckisWorkwell mostly :P
16:28.04ToadkillerSunTsu: well heres the deal.  I was gonna just add them to PT3.1 but then it was pointed out they can be detected via GetItemInfo ... type & subType.  Also that really that applies to trinkets as well.  So I have a todo to implement categories that use type & subType.
16:28.59SunTsuToadkiller: Ah, OK, I was just wonderin, don't feel yourself pushed
16:29.17ToadkillerDon't worry, I do what I want ;-p
16:29.23AckisWorkToadKiller: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6762839883&sid=1
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16:30.58AckisWorkafk
16:31.46Lywellynnevcairiel: Okay, I figured out how to lock things.  easy.  but it says I can't, even though I'm trying to lock my own. >.>
16:32.07ToadkillerHaha wow, that guy posted like ALL the links to AutoBAr they could ever want.
16:32.09nevcairielapparently you fail
16:32.45Lywellyn;_;
16:32.51ToadkillerAckis: what is IHML?
16:33.10evlthe best addon ever
16:33.19nevcairielthe name is so fail
16:33.31Toadkilleromg that IS the name?
16:33.45OlisonI has macro lol -.-
16:33.50ravagernltoadkiller: an addon that automatically swaps macroś for certain fights/zones/quests etcetera
16:33.54Toadkillergah.
16:33.55Fisker-OMGNOS MICROSOFT ISN'T MONITORING MESSENGER FOR PEDOS
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16:34.16nevcairielFisker-: you must be happy now, eh?
16:34.20Toadkilleromg omg the poor children!
16:34.34Fisker-of course nevcairiel
16:35.00nevcairielI couldnt decide yet which side of that chat you are on, though
16:35.39Fisker-both
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16:38.55ravagernlkagaro: yes, I have it
16:39.10kagaroravagernl: sorry I was at lunch
16:39.26ravagernlwill post it at forum
16:40.09kagarok
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16:43.58grimmanhttp://bonescraper.net/WoWScrnShot_052708_183741.JPG << Suggestions?
16:44.41VonhintenHOME`yeah, don't pve with hemo
16:44.48grimmanPssh!
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16:44.53grimmanThey asked for me to come.
16:44.57grimmanThat means I'm good.
16:44.58grimman;P
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16:50.30CIA-4203toadkiller * r75267 10AutoBar/ (9 files):
16:50.30CIA-42AutoBar :
16:50.30CIA-42-- Drycoded translations!
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16:53.19CIA-42LibKeyBound-1.0:
16:53.19CIA-42<PROTECTED>
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17:07.10Bruners!rating 1507
17:07.10Xinhuan1507 rating gives 351(5s), 309(3s) and 267(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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17:10.35AckisWorkimma back wheee
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17:13.30Pkekyo|"I got a weird feeling in my stomach when I thought about her... Was it love? Or was it the kebab I had for dinner last night?"
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17:16.43ToadkillerSo if you are playing in Taiwan or China, what does your keyboard look like?  Standard QWERTY with just the Home End Ins etc keys translated?
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17:17.24AckisWorkI thought it was portions of the symbols
17:17.36AckisWorkso to get 1 symbol you'd push multiple keys
17:18.14profalbertToadkiller: I know from japanese. there are symbols on the keys. There are more modifiers to produce more symbols
17:18.28profalbertand some symbols are produced by a sequence of keys
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17:19.12SunTsuMost probably kana.
17:19.32ToadkillerMmm, yeah I am jsut trying to imagine if LibKeyBound is doing the right thing for the extreme translations
17:19.33SunTsuOr some romaji that will be transformes by a programme to kana while typing
17:19.43Josh_Borkehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_input_methods
17:19.49Toadkillerromaji is short roman sequences?
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17:20.16SunTsuToadkiller: Romaji is the western letters
17:20.49SunTsuToadkiller: Whereas kana Hiragana and katakana are, the two syllabile (sp?) systems
17:21.04Josh_Borkesyllable :-)
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17:21.32SunTsuJosh_Borke: Or that, yeah ;)
17:21.33ToadkillerOh man that spacebar is freaking tiny
17:21.41ToadkillerIts like just another key
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17:23.35Zenomim trying to decide which character to play until or into wotlk
17:23.43Zenommy options are druid, warrior, warlock heh
17:23.51Ozguliwlock
17:23.53Toadkillerdruid
17:23.54profalbertwarlock
17:23.54AckisWorkdeathknight
17:24.12SunTsuZenom: That depends on what you expect and what you prefer as gameplay
17:24.13Toadkillerdethknigth is warlock with plate so lock is waste of time imo
17:24.20Zenomonly bad part about my lock is no epic flyer and im tired of farming for spell dmg gear lol
17:24.37Zenommy warrior is exalted with everything, tier5, epic flyer
17:24.42Zenommy druid is in between lol
17:24.43Toadkillerdethknight is warrior with warlock spells so warrior is waste of time
17:24.50Zenoma.d.d ftl
17:25.34Zenomi like my lock but i am sooo tired of farming kara with the guild he is in
17:25.45Toadkillerjust do The Island dailes.  U will have flyer in 10 days straight or a bit more i f udont do the outland ones
17:25.46Zenomand farming mats for the cloth gear for him
17:25.55Zenomya true
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17:26.37Zenomi think part of it is that the lock is in like a kara/gruuls guild and part of me wants to see bt/hyjal which i havn't done yet
17:26.44Zenomso hence the dilemna :)
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17:27.09CIA-4203dodge 072.1 * r75270 10CoolDownButtons/ (8 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: 2.1 is working :D
17:27.13ToadkillerNumlock is the most retarded invention ever.
17:27.21Zenomnot to mention all the farming I do for gear is worthless in 6 mos haha
17:27.35Zenomwhen a green is better than an epic again
17:27.44SunTsuZenom: Well, outfitting a lock isn't that hard with current BoJ gear
17:28.08ZenomBoJ ?
17:28.14Zenomi have the frozen shadoweave
17:28.17SunTsuZenom: Badje of Justice
17:28.20Zenomoh ya
17:28.22SunTsuBadge
17:28.25ToadkillerIts just a matter of what type of farming u are into: raid, pvp, 5mans, 10mans
17:28.45Zenomya definitely raiding
17:29.06Zenom10 or 25 mans I like doing
17:29.58Zenompart of me thinks screw the spellstrike stuff too and just get the stuff from badges and tier4
17:30.27Toadkillerpurl, Toadkiller is in your base killing all your mens
17:30.27purl...but toadkiller is already something else...
17:30.35SunTsuZenom: I am exactly at that point with my lock, and that's exactly whyt I am doing ;)
17:30.42Toadkillercrap right so whats the sause for overwrite or adding?
17:30.53ZenomSunTsu: doing spellstrike? or just using badge and t4 gear?
17:31.04SunTsuZenom: Badge and t4
17:31.19Zenomya i mean i farmed like 10 million primal waters it seems like for frozen shadoweave
17:31.24Zenomi just don't want to do it again :)
17:31.44SunTsuMaybe spellstrike if the pattern drops while doing heroics, but else I go for badge rewards and t4
17:31.44AckisWorkIf I want to code something in C#, what program do I need?
17:31.51CIA-4203Zarni * r75271 10Procodile/ (. Procodile.lua): Procodile: Added externals
17:31.54AckisWorkVisual C# 2008?
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17:31.56Zenomwell i have the pattern for the hood
17:32.05profalbertAckisWork: Visual Studio maybe?
17:32.23VonhintenHOME`Ackis, if you don't want to pay, Visual Studio 2008 Express is available for free
17:32.37Toadkillerpurl, no Toadkiller is in your base killing all your mens
17:32.38purlToadkiller: okay
17:32.39VonhintenHOME`though, techically, you just need the .NET Framework SDK, don't really need the IDE, for barebones
17:32.53VonhintenHOME`(but why bother making life difficult)
17:33.04Dashkalnotepad++ and the SDK will work if you like it minimal, but using the IDE that was designed for it might be a plan :p
17:33.07Toadkiller~Toadkiller
17:33.07purlhmm... toadkiller is in your base killing all your mens
17:33.20AckisWorkI just want to code a holy priest module for rawr
17:33.26Toadkiller~Toadkiller
17:33.26purlyou are, like, in your base killing all your mens
17:33.57AckisWork~Toadkiller
17:33.58purlmethinks toadkiller is a person who likes other men.
17:34.02AckisWorkO_o
17:34.32nevcairielo.O
17:34.52AckisWorknev, combine our eyes and we have two big ones and two small ones!
17:35.00Toadkillerpurl, dont make me come out of the closet yet
17:35.10NeoTronoO_Oo
17:35.10nevcairieland two noses
17:35.15Zenomwhat realm do you all play on?
17:35.18AckisWorkIt looks like I can DL Visual C# 2k8 Express Edition for free... is that good enough?
17:35.30VonhintenHOME`yes
17:35.40ToadkillerProudMoore, the leading server for geting useless crap done faster than any other server
17:35.45Zenomlol
17:35.51VonhintenHOME`Garona
17:36.00SunTsuNozdormu, EU
17:36.05Zenomcool my alliance are on Medivh, horde on area 52
17:36.09AckisWorkI've never really used a commercial product for coding before lol Just turbo pascal pack in my first year of university
17:36.38VonhintenHOME`you will be pleasantly surprised by Visual Studio Express
17:37.04VonhintenHOME`especially with C#, since there's an actual CodeDOM
17:37.12ToadkillerI have been using UltraEdit32 but its Lua support is decaying as Lua gets more features.  I will probably switch to NotePad++ someday
17:37.24ZenomTextMate ftw
17:37.40SunTsu.o0( vim )
17:37.53Zenomnot sure of its lua support though as its been a year or so since I wrote any ace mods
17:37.56AckisWorkall I really need is the ability for it to compile stuff into a dll/exe
17:37.56Toadkillervim is total crap. u cant convince me otherwise
17:38.29SunTsuToadkiller: I won't try, everybody has to use what fits him best
17:38.35Toadkillerah well try the VS Express nonhinten likes then
17:39.09AckisWorkwha'ts CodeDOM btw?
17:39.09ToadkillerI first ran into vim when it came with totally screwed up keyboard shortcuts
17:39.36VonhintenHOME`it's the little things that make it nice.. like, typing List and having it underline, when you click the underline have it give you the option of automatically adding the correct reference
17:39.37Josh_Borketotally screwed up keyboard shortcuts?
17:39.39Josh_Borkelike what?
17:40.01AckisWorkahh ok
17:40.02Cheads_vim is all about screwed up keyboard shortcuts
17:40.17Toadkillerlike back then you were in arrowing around the text mode then u press the i key to start inserting text.
17:40.17AckisWorkSo it basically helps prevent some syntax typos and whatnot
17:40.18Josh_Borkevim has screwed up shortcuts?
17:40.54Josh_Borkeit's a different way to think than most editors in that there is a non-insert mode
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17:40.58Toadkiller<-- when I first ran into it.  Who knows what it has today.  I never looked back
17:41.15VonhintenHOME`yeah, plus intellisense.  CodeDOM lets intellisense know everything about the code.  It can analyze the metadata about the code, using reflection
17:41.16Josh_BorkeToadkiller: it is exactly the same
17:41.41ToadkillerJosh_Borke: dude u just saved me from looking at it again
17:41.58Josh_BorkeToadkiller: good, wouldn't want you to hurt yourself
17:42.00VonhintenHOME`So when you type  myobject.   you get a drop down list of options that are available for that class
17:42.26ToadkillerNo worries, I only use soft gui editors.  No sharp edges
17:43.45AckisWorkhates metadata
17:43.56AckisWorkit was a buzz word around owrk here, metadata this, metadata that etc
17:44.05AckisWorkI refuse to metaanything now
17:44.05AckisWorklol
17:44.54VonhintenHOME`lol, you have to see what reflection is capable of before you really go "ooooh, damn"
17:45.18AckisWorkyah I'll take a look at it here tonight
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17:45.34AckisWorkI wonder how C# differs from C/C++
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17:45.38AckisWorkI've never coded in it
17:46.00VonhintenHOME`similar language construct, different mechanics
17:46.20VonhintenHOME`C# is close to java
17:47.12AckisWorkso C -> C++ -> Java -> C# would be a good comparsion?
17:47.50VonhintenHOME`for instance, all objects in C# are derived from System.Object (though you don't have to explicitly inherit from it), where in C++ there's no common base
17:47.58VonhintenHOME`which is closer to java than C++
17:48.02DashkalJava and C# are more peers than one evolved form the other.
17:48.07AckisWorkahh
17:48.07Josh_Borkemf clad
17:48.14Josh_Borkelightheaded blows monkey nuts
17:48.19cladhairewhat did I do this time?
17:48.24AckisWorkmmmm monkey nuts
17:48.29AckisWorknom nom noms
17:48.30DashkalC# did some things better (generics) and some worse (official platform is restricted)
17:48.49breserI'd argue that C# is just Microsoft's clone of Java.
17:48.53Dashkalnote to self: learn c#/mono sometime
17:49.01Dashkalit is m$'s clone of java, but they did a few things right
17:49.13DashkalSun _really_ blew generics
17:49.16VonhintenHOME`it's java like, but not java
17:49.21AckisWorkWell once I start working on it, I'll probably be harassing people here for advice *grins*
17:49.24DashkalErasure.... *sighs*
17:49.30breserIt'd be hard not to do some things right when you had nearly 10 years to learn from the one you're cloning.
17:49.36Dashkalyep
17:49.47netcursenote: Curse is hiring an expert web .net developer :x
17:49.50VonhintenHOME`and, Windows isn't the only .NET platform, as you said, Mono works
17:50.10digmouse~seen xinhuan
17:50.13purlxinhuan is currently on #wowhead #norganna #wowuidev #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 81 messages. Is idling for 43m 3s, last said: '1507 rating gives 351(5s), 309(3s) and 267(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)'.
17:50.13AckisWorknetcurse: can I work from home, 2 days a week?
17:50.13DashkalYep.  So I need to learn how mono works at some point.  No sense being dug into a java rut
17:50.29netcursenot realy :{
17:50.36AckisWorkaww
17:50.41breserYeah just don't give Microsoft credit for Mono.  Lots of hardwork of a lot of people rebuilding it.  Microsoft's only credit is they didn't really do anything to try and stop it.
17:50.41AckisWorkbtw where are your offices located?
17:50.45Dashkal'sides.  I have no faith that sun will do closures right after the generics debacle.
17:50.55netcurseHuntsville, AL
17:51.03AckisWorkahh
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17:51.13AckisWorkthat'd be a long commute then :(
17:51.39breserDashkal: Sun is trying to add closures to Java?
17:51.45VonhintenHOME`Microsoft gave the development community Rotor, which was a free implementation of the CLR
17:51.56VonhintenHOME`was a good start for the mono project, I'm assuming
17:52.31VonhintenHOME`With .NET Reflector you can basically view the entire source of the CLR as well (though I'm sure the Mono guys will claim they never looked :))
17:53.18Dashkalbreser: It's on the table
17:53.39DashkalMy personal opinion is they had best go all the way (full closures) or nowhere.  I'd rather no closures than half closures.
17:54.02DashkalBut I'd really like them.  Anonymous inner classes and final int[1] tricks don't cut it
17:55.03DashkalI dislike defining full interfaces for single callback methods
17:56.32Dashkalreally likes the full closures offered by lua
17:56.39DashkalBut I also like the static typing in java.
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17:57.14breserI can't really fathom how you can do decent closures with a language like Java.
17:57.23Pkekyo|poopie cojõnes
17:57.28Dashkaljava does have closures in the form of anonymous inner classes
17:57.33Dashkalit's just clunky
17:57.39AckisWork~dashkal
17:57.41purldashkal is probably a person who loves to dry-code.
17:57.45Dashkalrofl
17:57.50AckisWork:D
17:57.54breserI guess that's what I mean.  However you do it I'd think it'd always come out clunky.
17:57.56Dashkalno, I'm pretty anal about fixing that kind of thing :p
17:58.12DashkalBGGA closures won't.  They're pure closures.  Just need to learn the syntax
17:58.21breser~breser
17:58.50breserMust be a different purl than I remember.
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17:59.05breserHmm maybe that wasn't on freenode.
18:00.27ulic~breser
18:00.27purlbreser thinks I'm a different purl.
18:00.30ulichehe
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18:04.23sbmhh, felmyst wipes are fast and expensive :o 4g / 5m
18:05.07Silviu-sb ... u should see M`uru wipes :/
18:05.35NeoTronfelmyst wipes are for the most part free
18:05.38NeoTronlong live mind control cloud
18:05.54NeoTronwe often call wipes but always wait for a cloud
18:06.08NeoTronsometimes we did it on the 3rd just to practice running and calling it
18:06.44AckisWorkM'uru... 150 attempts before we killed him
18:06.53sbNeoTron: we just started here
18:06.58sbso its more encapsulate wiping :p
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18:07.20Zergrethhey there
18:07.36Zergrethi just wanted to try out RBM, looking for a replacement for NECB
18:07.59Zergrethconfigured everything and sht, but it doesnt do anything. i also checked all my settings again, it wont show stuff
18:08.21Zergrethlike, i tried if it shows frostnova, then i tried polymorph and some other things
18:08.32Zergrethis it because im using the german client maybe? ;f
18:08.59HjalteDoes arena reset tonight or was it last night?
18:09.31Brunersdepends if your in US or EU
18:11.11Zergrethi found out that the debuff watch module of RBM is using LibBabble-Spell-3.0 if the client localization is not enUS, though this isnt in the libs folder but its not throwing any errors either :/
18:12.23HjalteBruners: I'm EU
18:12.34Brunersthen its tonight
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18:15.06NeoTronsb: run like the wind!
18:15.18NeoTronAckisWork: I don't even want to know how much we wiped on felmyst
18:15.26NeoTronbut we had like 100 wipes on brutallus bc the mt kept dying
18:15.31NeoTronyes, it's stupid :-/
18:15.35AckisWorkugh =/
18:15.53Zergrethadded the babblespell lib, no change
18:15.58Zergrethnobody using rbm here? D:
18:16.39NeoTron62 wipes on felmyst
18:17.35sbNeoTron: mhh i know that :o
18:17.40sbdying mt
18:17.43sb*sigh* :p
18:17.55NeoTronwe had issues with dying MT on felmyst too until we started using our feral druid
18:18.06NeoTronboth brutallus and felmyst are miles easier with feral druid tanks
18:18.17sbyep
18:18.22NeoTronboth on healing the tank and threat gen
18:18.26sbbut brutallus healing is pretty easy
18:18.29NeoTronwe had issues with pulling aggro with a feral druid
18:18.31sbif you have one healer inside brutallus :o
18:18.41sbso he doesnt get debuffs / no need to run
18:18.47NeoTronsb: I wouldn't say that since 95% of our wipes is MT dying
18:18.59sbhm, i think we eliminated that problem
18:19.12NeoTronthe warrior, with stom, takes about 17k dmg per 2 sec
18:19.20NeoTronworse case of course
18:19.20Zergreth...
18:19.21sbput 1 priest in safespot and its going to be easy
18:19.33sbhmm okay :O
18:19.48NeoTronsometimes bad luck gets you
18:20.05NeoTronyou have the healing but due to bad timing, heals hit right at the wrong time and you get lots of overheal and then a dead tank
18:20.27NeoTronAckisWork: how hard was twins compared to previous content?
18:20.33Zergrethdoes nobody give a damn D:
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18:20.39AckisWorkTwins took us a few nights opposed to 1 night
18:20.45sbyep i know NeoTron ;)
18:20.48NeoTronand btw 150 wipes on muru sounds pretty good. A friendly guild had liek 600 wipes on him (without any known strats)
18:20.49Zergrethi can get it to work by adding the translations to the rbm module by myself, but i dont wanna do that
18:21.05sbi have our 2nd priest as focus target + casting bar next to my own casting bar
18:21.08AckisWorkNeoTron: we didn't have known strats either
18:21.11NeoTronAckisWork: does twins require everyone in the raid to think of multiple things? :P
18:21.12sbits easy to time heals then (with some haste gear)
18:21.49AckisWorkNeoTron: depends on how you do it.  But generally no, you just need to remember to move out if you're conflagged and to dps/heal and then switch for P2 positions
18:22.24NeoTronwe'll do the "reverse order" I think
18:22.32NeoTronI'm the warlock tank
18:22.50TNSeyou dont tank the warlock
18:22.53TNSethe warlock tanks you
18:22.53TNSehahahah
18:22.56NeoTronknow if the warlock tank need an extraordinary amount of health (and with that I mean more than the 13000ish or so I would normally have in deeps gear w/o imp)
18:22.56TNSeeh. ha.
18:22.57AckisWorkreverse order is easy
18:23.09AckisWorkP1 = move for conflag, P2 = stand still (for the raid)
18:23.19AckisWorkWe did reverse strat w/o a lock tank
18:23.34NeoTronhow do you do the fire tanking?
18:23.43AckisWorkTauren tank
18:23.46NeoTronhax
18:23.50NeoTronthat's so cheat
18:23.52NeoTronwtf
18:23.57NeoTronwhen will they fix that bug?
18:24.01Zenomanyone know a good warlock mod for dots? it seems the one i have doesn't look at the mob perse just the mob name
18:24.02AckisWorkit's a feature
18:24.15NeoTronit's a bug
18:24.29NeoTronbeing able to bypass various melee effects is not a feature
18:24.39NivFreakso did they nerf kael's sheild pretty hard?
18:24.40NeoTronor rather
18:24.46NivFreakshock barrier even
18:24.46VonhintenHOME`what does a tauren get?
18:24.48NeoTronthe bug is that melee effects don't take tauren tank reach into account
18:24.58NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: longer melee range than everyone else
18:25.03NivFreakour dps chewed through it and interrupted the first pyro when we actually tried
18:25.12AckisWorkI honestly don't think he uses the tauren hit box to get around it
18:25.19AckisWorkbut I don't heal him so I can't be 100% sure
18:26.19Zergrethalrighty, got my RBM problem fixed, thanks for nothing ;)
18:27.23NeoTronNivFreak: better dps?
18:27.37NivFreakNeoTron: just our first time there ;P
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18:27.54NeoTronI don't recall that they nerfed it though
18:28.27NeoTronso last night I mailed off 6 fel lotus + herbs to make pure death pots.. to Amina... instead of Aminai
18:28.34NivFreakouch
18:28.40NivFreakhopefully they are nice
18:28.42NeoTronhopes for return.
18:29.42AckisWorkI sold a stack of primal water for 20g once
18:29.52nevcairielouch
18:29.57AckisWorkyah that sucked
18:30.21AckisWorkI thought I lost them and sent a tell to the guy seeing what he bought, didn't even reply =/
18:30.51NivFreaksee
18:30.55NivFreakI bought something like that one time
18:30.59NivFreakand the guy asked for them back
18:31.01NivFreakso I gave them back
18:31.05NivFreak:P
18:31.31Pkekyo|NERDS! ALL OF YOU! NERDS, I SAY! NEEEEEEEEEERDS!
18:32.17AckisWork~Pkekyo|
18:32.29AckisWorkawwww it was deleted :P
18:32.34AckisWorklol
18:33.22Pkekyo|lopsilols
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18:36.44profalbertis there a way to make BigWigs show Custom timerbars started by DBM?
18:37.22Pkekyo|NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
18:37.28Pkekyo|idea...
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18:43.07profalbertgrml... need to get DBM, just for those Sunblade Scouts
18:44.36CIA-4203kurax * r75273 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
18:44.36CIA-42Babble-2.2:
18:44.36CIA-42- Update zhCN locale
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18:45.40ToadkillerJosh_Borke: http://www.xkcd.com/378/
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18:46.09p3limanyone know of a non-lib addon that uses COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED event?
18:46.23AckisWorkTIRaid
18:46.27AckisWorkMagicDKP
18:46.31AckisWorkNRT
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18:52.49p3limhm cant get it to work
18:52.53p3limits quite simple really
18:52.54p3limhttp://ace.pastey.net/88522
18:53.43p3lim'player' is UnitName("player") btw
18:54.19charoncan you even use print()? try ChatFrame1:AddMessage ... and do you register the event?
18:54.27charonalso, you should compare srcGUID == UnitGUID("player")
18:54.37charonbut be aware that UnitGUID may return nil in OnEnable
18:54.46charonor anything before that
18:54.53charons/or/and
18:55.36charoni suspect it's the same with UnitName
18:56.08p3limprint is also a function defined above
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18:56.53p3limyes i register
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18:57.08charonshrugs
18:57.12charonshow the entire code maybe?
19:00.58p3limsec
19:01.16p3limgonna put some ace in it and do a test first
19:01.21sbomg
19:01.29sbmh is sooo boring w/ protection pally
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19:04.32CIA-4203Udorn * r75275 10MonkeyQuestHelper/: Share project 'MonkeyQuestHelper' into 'http://dev.wowace.com/wowace'
19:05.39CIA-4203Udorn * r75276 10MonkeyQuestHelper/ (10 files in 3 dirs): MonkeyQuestHelper: init
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19:09.24Chompersdo any of you use a feral tank on archi?
19:09.34Chompershow do you deal with the fears
19:11.19Pkekyo|DING
19:11.33genetikChompers: bring 4-5 priests and dedicate fear ward to the tank?
19:11.45genetikdunno why you wouldn't just have a warrior tank it, though
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19:14.00SunTsugenetik: Maybe he doesn't have one at hand
19:14.12p3limcharon: http://ace.pastey.net/88527
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19:14.22p3limcharon: but i want it to restrict to only my casts
19:14.24genetiki guess.. i've just never experienced a shortage of warriors.. heh
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19:14.58charonp3lim: i take it the rest of the code works? just add srcGUID == UnitGUID("player") to your conditions
19:15.08p3limill try
19:15.16p3limnever worked with GUID before
19:15.49charonjust don't try to cache the GUID by setting a local in OnEnable, it will return nil during login (but not during reload)
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19:16.36CIA-4203dodge 072.1 * r75278 10CoolDownButtons/ (5 files in 3 dirs): CoolDownButtons: more stuff working, still missing anchors :D
19:17.23p3limcharon: works, thank you
19:17.35charonnp
19:19.24p3limby the way, is there some good documentation on GUID?
19:19.57Uhurucharon ?
19:19.58dylanmp3lim: Like, what information it can possibly contain?
19:20.04dylanmhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitGUID
19:21.08p3limany documentation at all actually, i have no clue what it is.. :p
19:23.08CIA-4203ackis * r75279 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
19:23.08CIA-42AckisRecipeList:
19:23.08CIA-42- Added more bit string definitions, all of them should be defined now
19:24.54Zenomwhat is  the best ace dot timer?
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19:25.04Zenomchronometer?
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19:25.41profalbertZenom: I use the timers from Quartz
19:26.36Uhurucharon can you give me bakc the url to report bugs for mangler ?
19:27.30p3limwhats the diffrence between srcGUID and dstGUID?
19:27.44Zenomprofalbert: guess im not quite sure how to use quartz timers, looking into it now
19:27.58charonUhuru: if you're concerned about speed you can try to optimize it a bit, but
19:28.04charonargh, paste error sorry
19:28.07HjalteZenom: DotDotDot works nicely for monitoring several targets.
19:28.10charonUhuru: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mangler/create-ticket/
19:28.21dylanmp3lim: Someone shoots a fireball and it hits you. src/dst are pretty obvious here.
19:28.21profalbertZenom: you're using quartz?
19:28.24Uhuru^^ thx
19:28.31Zenomprofalbert: i use the cast bars
19:28.42Zenombut not the timers in it quartz but yes
19:28.49p3limdylanm: uhm not really, ive never used the combat log in my 4 years of wow :p
19:28.51Kalman|Hjalte: You been using DDD for a bit now?
19:29.02HjalteKalman|: Yeah. I like it.
19:29.09Kalman|Any thoughts on things that could use improvement?
19:29.10profalbertZenom: there's a "Buff"-menu
19:29.18Kalman|Today's my last day at my job, so I may have some time to work on it.  :)
19:29.28Uhurucharon just for information, i'm in a raid 25, nothing appear on the bars except the timer
19:30.21mikmap3lim: people say that you suck
19:30.51p3limmikma: then people are right, i do suck, but i try anyways
19:37.12CIA-4203StiviS * r75280 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
19:37.12CIA-42AutoBar :
19:37.12CIA-42- esES updated
19:38.43charonUhuru: i pushed a fix, i'm too tired to tag and sync with wowace but an alpha zip should show up on http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mangler/ in a couple minutes
19:39.10charonif you do test it from there, please leave a comment on the bug report whether that actually fixed it
19:39.23charoni'll probably make it a new release on thursday or so
19:39.27charonthanks for reporting!
19:39.30p3limhere i have a table: http://ace.pastey.net/88529
19:39.42p3limbut i saw haste using a quite diffrent one in oApplication
19:40.13p3limlocal spells = "23529 23522"
19:40.16p3limlike that
19:40.19hasteI don't use at able on oApp
19:40.25hasteit's a string
19:40.32p3limthats a string.. hm ok
19:41.17p3limthis is how i use my table: if(spells[spellID]) then
19:41.24p3limhow would i use it as a string like that?
19:42.11starlonlook to see how haste does it?
19:42.44starlonof course I have no idea what oApp is
19:42.53Uhurucharon i will test later, thank's
19:43.18p3limoApplication, makes you able to apply poisons by hovering the poison item while holding alt, then click right/left mouse button according to what weapon you want the poison on
19:43.41p3limquite neat :)
19:43.53starlonah
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19:45.13ZhaliAnyone here familiar with Bartender3 and have a Rogue or Druid?
19:45.53ZhaliWhen I stealth, the bar doesn't change over like the default Blizzard bar does.
19:46.00ZhaliWhich setting is it that enables that?
19:46.08Zhali"Possess" doesn't seem to work
19:46.50Arrowmastermight be paging
19:47.05ZhaliYea... Was just playing around with it and had to enable Paging
19:47.07Zhalithx
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19:51.48Pkekyo|~ugt
19:51.49purlwell, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
19:53.18Pkekyo|...british people can't speak english for shit >.<
19:55.09p3limis there a way to define if the player has a target or not?
19:55.28dylanmp3lim: UnitExists("target"), for one.
19:57.47HjalteKalman|: An easier way to add spells when the addon is updated wouldn't be bad. However, seeing as that's not very often, it's a very minor concern. Grouping by mob with mob name as headline would be great as well, but I think that's somewhat of a major thing.
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19:58.56Kalman|Hjalte: Easier way to add spells should be pretty easy to do, just need to move it from a hard list to a SV.  Grouping by mob is harder, and also I'm not sure if it's something I necessarily want to deal with.  If I do, it'll probably wait til I change over to LibBars.
20:04.21OlisonMmm, I'm looking for such a mod: http://fireglow.de/img/u/bc24d.png (Adds statistics about healing and damage to the battleground window) - Does such a thing exist and if not, are the values from the bg window readable by Lua?
20:04.47dylanmThey're very much accessible.
20:05.00OlisonThat's good news!
20:05.20dylanmTrying to pull up a link but clad|away's SQL server keeps "going away."
20:05.33Olison:<
20:06.21dylanmOlison: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBattlefieldScore
20:06.42OlisonOh man :))
20:06.59OlisonYou could do a 4th tab "Statistics" with that kind of data
20:07.47dylanmThere are columns unique to each BG that you get with http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBattlefieldStatData. Really, just take a look at how the FrameXML grabs it and you'll be fine.
20:08.30OlisonOh nonono, I've never touched Lua before :)) It's gonna be a desaster if I do
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20:11.06[ztajl]hello everyone, i got a little problem anyone knows why every time i put a spell in bongos v3, 2 spells apperas on the action bar?
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20:12.27dylanm[ztajl]: It's possible that you have two bars on the same page.
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20:13.13[ztajl]how do i know if it's the same page?
20:13.26[ztajl]xP
20:13.51dylanmWell, if you don't use paging I would just run around and turn paging off on everything.
20:15.10[ztajl]i just alt dragged some new bars out :P
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20:15.35[ztajl]and it only happens on bar 1 and 2
20:16.14[ztajl]hmm
20:16.16[ztajl]this is annoying :P
20:16.38dylanmWhy would making new bars...?
20:16.48dylanmYou know how to access the menu for each bar, right?
20:16.54[ztajl]ya
20:17.12[ztajl]just by rightclicking it i guess?
20:17.16dylanmYessir.
20:17.22[ztajl]:)
20:17.30[ztajl]pages 1 on every bar
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20:18.07Zhali`heh
20:18.12Zhali`gg dc's
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20:20.23CIA-42oUF_P3lim:
20:20.23CIA-42- Added X-Category to .toc
20:20.23CIA-42- Small code change
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20:27.15NeoTronso one of those rare events..
20:27.22NeoTronWTB t6 raiding Hunter PST
20:27.25Zhali`Okay... Maybe it's just me, but, is there not a way to keybind the Stance Bar in Bartender3?
20:27.57Zhali`NeoTron, how about a T4/5 hunter?  =P
20:28.18CIA-4203p3lim * r75284 10pResurrect/: pResurrect: must include libs
20:28.23NeoTronWTB 2000 DPS PST
20:28.38Zhali`2k dps?  I'll get my warlock then
20:28.43NeoTronseriously though, 9pm-1am PST, 4 days a week, US pve
20:28.50NeoTronnah we need a huntard or two
20:29.00NeoTronwent from 4 to 1
20:29.04ArrowmasterNeoTron: are you willing to help powerlevel mine?
20:29.10Zhali`What realm?
20:29.14NeoTronKilrogg
20:29.19Zhali`Why so late?
20:29.24NeoTronArrowmaster: gear possibly, powerlevel ugh. :P
20:29.28NeoTronthat's when we raid
20:29.46NeoTrona lot of our raiders are parents for example
20:29.46Arrowmasterout
20:30.06Zhali`Too late for me.  (CST)
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20:36.11Viper_0000anyone know of a way to make the chat bubbles smaller?
20:36.33Viper_0000i like em but they're kind-a big >.<
20:37.15dylanmI don't think you get control over that.
20:37.30dylanmUnless they're built like nameplates, but I didn't think that they were.
20:38.25NeoTronArrowmaster: but perhaps I should plevel my hunter. /sigh
20:38.41NeoTronalthough I dunno if hunter is harder to play while leading a raid than warlock
20:38.55p3limforums dead?
20:39.08dylanmWarlock is a good class for a raid leader right now.
20:39.13dylanmThat much is true.
20:39.21NivFreakspam SB
20:39.23NivFreakover and over
20:39.28NeoTronright
20:39.32NivFreakI lead as MT
20:39.34NivFreakit's fine
20:39.38Ozguliwe had a resto shaman, that isn't hard either
20:39.41Viper_0000goog mage
20:39.57NeoTronbut a bit late ni a game to level a l45ish hunter up to 70 and gear up for sunwell
20:40.05dylanmNow, if they have a G15 or something the effort required as a hunter is probably similar.
20:40.15NivFreakhunter effort is low
20:40.19NivFreakjust macro your shots
20:40.24NivFreakand use a keyrepeater
20:40.31NivFreak:P
20:40.54NivFreakFD when your screen flashes red
20:40.55NivFreakwin
20:41.05NeoTronI think if I was a hunter, hunters would suddently get better groups... >:-)
20:41.25NeoTrontruth to be told though I really like warlocks
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20:42.02ZhaliMy main is a warlock
20:42.14Zhali0/21/40 ftw
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20:48.24[ztajl]hmm can anyone tell me how to change the colour of hp bars in pitbull? i check the custom background colour box and nothing changes..
20:49.57kaideni think that's because you are misunderstanding what a background is
20:50.03kaidentry checking the CUstom Color option instead
20:50.19NeoTronI don't get how guilds made up of teens work
20:50.31kaidenalso make sure you do not have "Color by class" checked if you want to change it
20:50.33NeoTronwe consistently have more loot issues, drama issues, flakiness and unreliability from younger ppl
20:50.43Vulcanusbut the girls are hotter
20:50.56NeoTronand we have very few - youngest was 19, 2nd 21 and both of them just disappeared w/o notice really
20:51.01kaidenNeoTron, they work because teens mostly have far more free time to play than adults
20:51.06kaidenwell.. typically because
20:51.12NivFreakNeoTron: yea, of the few sub 21 people I've recruited over time, I think 2 are left
20:51.15[ztajl]kaiden i tried to change them both
20:51.19NivFreak1 is going soon I think
20:51.23NivFreakthe other is fine (but is 19)
20:51.25Diaomy guild is mostly early-mid 20s, but we have a few teens
20:51.31Diaothey're not bad at all, no drama from them ever
20:51.39Diaothough they do tend to want to "go out" sometimes and not show up for raids
20:51.58NeoTronkaiden: except from what we see our "teens" are the least reliable
20:52.20kaidenmeh, i try to not let anyone younger than 18 in my guild
20:52.30NeoTronand except for the highschool dropout that literally lived in moms basement
20:52.32NeoTronhe was always on
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20:52.41kaidenthere are a few case by casers that are far beyond the maturity level of even our oldest members
20:52.42kaiden:P
20:52.56NeoTronbut was a selfish, self righteous jerk
20:53.12Vulcanushey I don't live in the basement :(
20:53.26NeoTronI am sure there are exceptions
20:53.27VulcanusI can't help that I'm awesome and everybody should give me their stuff!
20:53.29NeoTronbut we're not seeing them
20:53.50kaidenNeoTron, implement a maturity check :P and a 3 strikes your out policy, that'll take care fo that
20:54.08kaideni know most of the best guilds in the game's members are the biggest douchebags on the planet
20:54.24ZhinjioG'morning.
20:54.55NeoTronoh we don't accept immaturity in general
20:55.04NeoTronbut in this case they just left
20:55.08NeoTronlikely to AoC
20:55.14NeoTronand didn't feel it a good idea to let us know
20:55.29VonhintenHOME`we've had a few not show up due to AoC
20:55.37kaidenmeh, i tried AoC, it wasn't any good at all imo but both my roommates love it
20:55.39CIA-4203Footrot * r75286 10GhostPulse/ (Engine.lua Watcher-Parry.lua):
20:55.39CIA-42GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-28
20:55.39CIA-42- WIP for Riposte and Overpower. Needing combat logs to finish it off.
20:55.45Vulcanusgood riddance I say, let them pollute that game XD
20:55.58NeoTronI mean if you're leaving, let us know
20:56.00NeoTrondon't just leave
20:56.14NeoTronand worse, don't make up some story how your roommate transferred your character to another server
20:56.35NivFreakNeoTron: lol, it's the same everywhere
20:57.03Vulcanusin our guild the excuse is being hacked, some guy transferred his char to another realm and claimed a hack. Course he came back, revealed it was all a hoax, turned out to be a giant douche, and got kicked XD
20:57.05NivFreakand our top progression guild just died due to AoC
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20:59.11NeoTronI dunno what makes AoC so good
20:59.14NeoTronother than "something new"
20:59.21Vulcanusthe lack of autoattack according to some people
20:59.27kaidensomething new is all it has :P
20:59.32NeoTronbut if all the douchebags go to AoC for FFA pvp ganking, all the bette
20:59.38kaidenit will fail just like eq2 did, and vanguard
20:59.40kaidenand all the others
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21:00.03VulcanusI actually hope AoC becomes a huge success. Because then Blizzard would copy all the good stuff, and WoW gets even better
21:00.03VulcanusXD
21:00.28VonhintenHOME`Unfortunately, they copy some not good stuff too
21:00.49VulcanusI doubt they would rework their game mechanics to use the new anti-shield stuff AoC has
21:00.52VonhintenHOME`They seem to have taken a bunch of stuff from Dark Age of Camelot: Labyrinth of the Minotaur which wasn't good
21:01.03Vulcanussuch as? I haven't played that game.
21:01.14kaideni miss daoc
21:01.22VonhintenHOME`me too
21:01.39Vulcanustell meeee!
21:01.42VonhintenHOME`Mythirian items in daoc, items you could throw on your toon, that had degrees of potency for certain things
21:01.42Vulcanusnaaaoo!
21:02.06Vulcanusum... you mean like flasks?
21:02.20kaidenno
21:02.34kaidenitems that leveled with you and changed in stats, and or effected things in different ways
21:02.44NeoTronlol. one of our warlocks have "1337" spell damage
21:02.50Vulcanusoh, the stat rating system?
21:03.19kaidenVulcanus, kinda, one of the cool expansions for DAoC (which was the last i actually played) was called trials of atlantis
21:03.39kaidenyou could get "epic" weapons that took gathering of a ton of different items to get and once you got them they functioned in different ways
21:03.54kaidenie one could only level during the day, but at each level you got the weapon it got a new ability
21:03.59kaidennew procs, new stats, new damage
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21:04.31kaideni miss varulvhamn? sp?
21:04.34kaidenthe werewolf dungeon
21:04.47VulcanusWherewolf Harbour
21:04.50Vulcanusdirectly translated
21:04.50VonhintenHOME`something like that, in midgard
21:04.56VulcanusI love Norse mythology
21:04.56kaidenyeah
21:04.58VonhintenHOME`varulvhamm
21:05.00kaideni loved that place
21:05.33VonhintenHOME`I miss the RVR, running with 8mans that could clean house
21:05.48kaideni had a necro that i used to pl all my chars out at the grannies in the rvr zones
21:06.03VonhintenHOME`dirty alb
21:06.10kaidenand an enchanter/shaman/healer pl team that could level a char 1-50 in 6-10 hours
21:06.21VonhintenHOME`mordred?
21:06.25kaideni played gaheris :P (carebear ftw)
21:06.36VonhintenHOME`ah, yeah... I was Pellinor
21:06.42kaideni was the first Theurgist to 50
21:06.49kaidenon mordred i think.. been so long i can't remember
21:07.03kaidenmy theurgist didn't even have more than 1 pet it was funny
21:07.15VulcanusRANDOM STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON
21:08.27kaidenRANDOM REPLY INVOLVING PHALLIC OBJECTS
21:08.46nevcairielstop the crazy meta-chat!
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21:09.51AckisWorkphallc objects? B==========D ?
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21:10.34kaiden<immature/childish reply> no.. your mom's face! </icr> :P
21:10.36kaidenj/k
21:10.45AckisWorkrofl
21:10.45profalbertVulcanus: reminds me of http://bash.org/?23396
21:11.44Vulcanusbash.org is not loading so well here these days, but if that's the quote that ends with moderator THREATENING TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES then thats the one ;)
21:12.19Vulcanuskinda sucks too, Im often bored and want to hit up ?random1
21:13.40EvilJohn-the famous oen that stats with "generic greetings"? I think
21:13.46Vulcanusyup
21:13.57VulcanusI started doing that with a friend of mine on MSN once
21:14.13Vulcanusand RIGHT when the mod guy was supposed to come in, some random guy got added to the MSN convo and said the line
21:14.16VulcanusI was like WTF
21:14.20VulcanusXD
21:15.40EvilJohn-hehe
21:15.48EvilJohn-yeah bash.org is gone for me too
21:16.33Ozgulimm.. reminds me
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21:17.02OzguliI've had the idea of logging on some teamspeak or vent server that is empty and wait until someone else logs on
21:17.02profalbertjust got the link from there
21:17.12Ozguliand say "Ah... I've been expecting you"
21:17.18Vulcanuslmfao
21:17.33Vulcanusif you can get the voice right itll be even more epic
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21:20.58[Liquidor]Ozguli I got a better idea
21:21.21[Liquidor]log onto some guilds vent and start capturing individual's phrases
21:21.33[Liquidor]then keybind them and use them randomly during their fights
21:21.52[Liquidor]like when raid leader says "Heal X" or "Use Reinc"...
21:22.06Ozgulithat'd be fun
21:22.10[Liquidor]it is
21:22.17[Liquidor]and everyone's like... what
21:22.55Vulcanusis glad he coded his website to only give Vent info to forum users that are flagged as guild members
21:23.05Zicon[liquidor]: Stop giving me ideas.
21:23.24[Liquidor]I got plenty
21:23.41ZiconEven I can tell it's a bad thing to give me such an idea.
21:24.05[Liquidor]hmm
21:24.11[Liquidor]want to see an example on youtube?
21:24.20[Liquidor]sec fetching it
21:24.50Vulcanusspeaking of vent trolling, the Duke Nukem Vent trolls were epic XD
21:25.09[Liquidor]http://armory.artoman.com/___web/
21:25.17[Liquidor]Checkout the Fun Stuff category (2nd one)
21:25.53Vulcanusyeah that one
21:26.26VulcanusIM HERE TO KICK ASS AND CHEW BUBBLEGUM, AND IM ALL OUT OF GUM
21:26.57[Liquidor]:)
21:27.12[Liquidor]the link to the soundboards is there too
21:27.58[Liquidor]my fav is Martin Lawrence.. it also sounds most realistic compared to the others
21:30.27Vulcanuswatching the WoW Nerd one XD
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21:37.15p3limhow can i set the framelevel on a texture?
21:37.41p3limframes are :SetFrameLevel"layer" but doesnt work on textures
21:38.06CIA-4203starlon * r75287 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Revert a change to make nil parameters = ''
21:38.21profalbertcould there be any problems (licencing, ...) if i just take the fonts from other addons and integrate them in mine?
21:38.51NeoTron<PROTECTED>
21:38.56NeoTronno shit, alliance you say?!
21:39.49NivFreakheh
21:40.10NivFreakthey need a better tool
21:40.13NivFreakthe forums suck for that
21:40.16DashkalProlly just copy-paste without changing it :p
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21:44.52NeoTronthey do suck yes
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21:45.43NeoTronman there's a lot of recruitment needs for SWP
21:46.29malikeyebongos safe now ?
21:46.35Toadkillerprofalbert: If you have doubts then go ask the authors...
21:47.05profalbertok
21:47.14malikeyebongos 1.3e
21:47.58CamciCartographer3 is not on files.wowace?
21:48.32NeoTronkind of glad we got what we got so far
21:48.52Dashkal~cartographer3
21:48.52purlcartographer3 is, like, the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
21:49.25Camciso that means WAU wont update carto 3 ?
21:49.52starlongood guess
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21:50.15Camci^^
21:52.59dylanmNeoTron: Glad you're somewhat happy with it. Lots of good guilds are dying off.
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21:56.42NeoTronwe've had a rough time. 1 month to kill felmyst was mostly due to not having the opportunity to raid felmyst very much
21:58.05CIA-4203toadkiller * r75288 10AutoBar/ (8 files): (log message trimmed)
21:58.05CIA-42AutoBar :
21:58.05CIA-42-- 2.04.02.54 beta ()
21:58.05CIA-42-- Added bar location dropdown to buttons for easy movement or assignment to a bar
21:58.05CIA-42-- Use LibKeyBound:ToShortKey for AutoBar key display
21:58.06CIA-42-- AutoBarButtonStealth: added Rogue Priest Mage. Shadowmeld added if present for other classes. Need to figure out how the two combine for NE Druid, Rogue Priest Mage.
21:58.11CIA-42-- Seal category added for Paladins
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22:01.52CIA-4203starlon * r75289 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.toc: CombatAlarm: Add embeds.xml to the toc. Forgetful me.
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22:02.39CIA-4203feithar * r75290 10FBagOfHolding/ (FBagOfHolding.toc FItemDB.lua):
22:02.39CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
22:02.39CIA-42- Reorganized item database somewhat to reduce memory usage.
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22:04.14AckisWorkcan you link images on the wiki?
22:04.38ArrowmasterClassCamci: the curse client will update it
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22:14.41CamciWhat Cartographer addons do i remove if i wanna install GatherMate instead? _data, _herbalism, _mining i supose?
22:15.26DashkalGatherMate replaces _data, _herbalism, etc
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22:15.46Dashkalso yeah
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22:16.28CamciHow about _Routes ?
22:16.34CamciI keep it?
22:16.45nevcairielYou should replace Carto_Routes with the standalone Routes
22:16.46pastamancerreplace it with the standalone Routes addon
22:16.47Dashkalreplace _Routes with just Routes
22:16.51ZhaliOkay... Maybe it's just me, but, is there a way to keybind the Stance Bar in Bartender3?
22:16.52Dashkaltoo slow
22:17.00Camcio.O
22:17.02Camciits on wowace?
22:17.05nevcairielyea
22:17.06Dashkalyes
22:17.09pastamancersame author too
22:17.09nevcairielits just named Routes
22:17.12Camcinice thanks!
22:17.46CIA-4203durcyn * r75291 10Expiration/ (Expiration.lua Expiration.toc): Expiration: revert raid target localization - rtX exists in all locales as of 2.4.2. Fix OptDeps - good job mixing frameworks, koKR guy.
22:19.45AckisWorkahhh my image links aren't working on the WoWAce Wiki :(
22:20.35NeoTronfor Twins, does the lock tank need fire resist at all?
22:20.43AckisWorkno
22:20.45AckisWorkHP
22:20.57NeoTronnot resistable ?
22:21.18CamciGatherMate shows what profession you have? So it doesnt show mining nods when im herb and stuff?
22:21.29AckisWorkdon't think so tbh
22:21.37pastamancerAckisWork: Image: is a special namespace
22:21.52NeoTronthat's what I've heard before
22:22.14nevcairielYou can configure GatherMate to only show nodes for professions that you actually have
22:22.18nevcairieli think its the default, too
22:22.20AckisWorkpastamancer: I tried this: [[Image:http://www.dkpsigs.com/sigs/Illidan/229890.jpg|Ackis - 70 Troll Priest]] and it failed
22:22.27Camciok
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22:22.42pastamancerAckisWork: yeah, that would
22:23.01AckisWorkI'm not familiar with wiki's markup yet... worse than my knowledge of lua
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22:23.28nevcairielwiki syntax is fail anyway
22:25.38AckisWorkwell I made my ackis wiki page look a little sexier, would love to add those images however
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22:25.59ZhaliIs there a way to keybind the Stance Bar in Bartender3?  I can't seem to find a way to do it.
22:27.31VonhintenHOME`keybind it to do what?
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22:28.29ZhaliSo I don't have to click it to stealth
22:28.32ZhaliI hate clicking
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22:30.56VonhintenHOME`It's called "Special Action Button 1" through 10, in Keybinds
22:31.20VonhintenHOME`Under Action Bar Functions
22:31.42Zhality VonhintenHOME`
22:32.10VonhintenHOME`bartender shouldn't really call it "Stance Bar" because it's not technically accurate
22:32.24ZhaliTrue.
22:32.39VonhintenHOME`it's a class bar, rogue has stealth, paladin has auras
22:32.41dylanm"Class bar" is pretty good.
22:32.42ZhaliNext question re: Bartender3 - WTF is the "Roll Bar"?
22:33.02dylanmIt's where the loot roll windows with the timers and the need/greed options go.
22:33.07Zhaliahh
22:33.09Zhalityvm
22:33.33CIA-4203dodge 072.1 * r75292 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/ (7 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: started fixing Anchors, still needs a lot work q.q
22:36.26pastamancerAckis: it doesn't look like the wowace wiki is setup to allow external image links
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22:57.35CIA-4203Xameni * r75294 10GhostPulse/Locale-deDE.lua:
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22:57.35CIA-42- deDE --ParryWatcher.lua added & small corrections
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23:04.00hypetechhaha wow
23:04.01hypetechhttp://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/27/1643258&from=rss
23:04.27NivFreakat least it's not just the US that fails at patents
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23:13.06Camcigathermate aint working for me
23:13.14Camcidoesnt show anything on map
23:13.48NeoTronso does anyone feel themself limited to druid tanks on high dps fights (at least one in the case of brutallus) when you don't have hunters with MD for extra threat?
23:14.01NivFreakno
23:14.10NivFreakbut I haven't done brutallus
23:14.18NivFreakthe guilds on our servers use a warrior
23:14.24NivFreakserver even
23:14.43NivFreakI know I out threat our druids
23:15.03NivFreakunless I chatter on vent too much
23:15.15CIA-4203Chingerayl * r75295 10DailyQuestViewer/ (16 files in 7 dirs):
23:15.16CIA-42DailyQuestViewer:
23:15.16CIA-42- Complete refactoring of localization engine:
23:15.16CIA-42-- People translating addon no longer have to throw in any conditional logic.
23:15.16CIA-42-- Localizations now cascade from english down to whichever locale the client is running. If a string is untranslated, it will now roll back to English to prevent an error.
23:15.19CIA-42-- Added QuestsChangeLog.txt and UiChangeLog.txt to log which strings in the English version were changed and why, to help translators know what has to change.
23:15.24NivFreakI was considering getting one of these so that I can chat on vent and not fuck up my cycle
23:15.28NivFreakhttp://www.tvps.com/Products/ECS-IN-USB-1-USB-Foot-Pedal---New__VE-IN-USB-1.aspx
23:15.53VonhintenHOME`not a bad idea
23:16.09NivFreakI'm just wondering if it would suck in my recliner :)
23:16.48VonhintenHOME`we have a few ferals in guild, one does excellent threat almost all the time, the other 2 sometimes fall flat
23:17.19VonhintenHOME`we have a warrior, who sometimes has excellent threat, and often falls flat
23:17.33NivFreakRNG can fuck you
23:17.42NivFreakwarrior avoidance is pretty high
23:17.45VonhintenHOME`and we have a couple pally tanks, one who always has great threat unless it's a slow swinger, and the other is decent
23:17.53NivFreaksometimes I don't get hit for 15 seconds
23:17.57NivFreakand my threat drops through the floor
23:18.22NivFreakit's difficult to move to a low rage cycle when you expect to be able to run a high rage cycle
23:18.35NivFreakyou just have to be constantly aware of your rage vs incoming hits
23:18.40NivFreaksince it's highly variable
23:19.12NivFreakI've yet to meet a pally tank that can out threat me on single target over time
23:19.25NivFreakI'm sure there are plenty though
23:19.49VonhintenHOME`have you measured against a pally that is truly geared for threat?
23:20.18VonhintenHOME`a raid pally that's geared for AOE agro should be sporting like 600 spell damage easily...
23:20.32NivFreakgeared vs raid buffed? yes
23:20.37NivFreakstacked pally threat group? no
23:20.47hypetechwell if he's got 600 spell damage, he isn't staying alive against anything significant single target
23:21.10VonhintenHOME`nah, not true
23:21.26NivFreakI usually give myself a resto WF, and rarely hear complaints
23:21.33NivFreakonly on shit like rage
23:21.40NivFreakwho hits like a pussy, and channels death and decay forever
23:25.21Funkeh`http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/27/new_adobe_flash_vuln/
23:25.24Funkeh`still no patch
23:25.44CIA-4203Chingerayl * r75296 10DailyQuestViewer/Localization/TestLocale/:
23:25.44CIA-42DailyQuestViewer:
23:25.44CIA-42- Removed Test locale
23:26.44profalbertFunkeh`: http://ace.pastey.net/88533
23:28.19Funkeh`profalbert, thanks
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23:28.57CIA-4203Chingerayl * r75297 10DailyQuestViewer/ (9 files in 5 dirs):
23:28.57CIA-42DailyQuestViewer:
23:28.57CIA-42- Removed test locale
23:28.57CIA-42- Added revision numbers to individual localization files to aid translators.
23:31.36CIA-4203funkydude * r75298 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Update blacklist
23:31.45Funkeh`profalbert, ^
23:33.01profalbertFunkeh`: that was fast.
23:33.03HjalteHuh, but didn't BadBoy catch it already?
23:33.15Funkeh`Hjalte, not fast enough
23:33.21profalbertit only catched it because it came 3x/sec
23:33.52Funkeh`e.g. line 1 = unrecognised, same for line 2 and 3 then line 4 is recognised
23:33.59Funkeh`now line 1 will be recognised
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23:34.27Funkeh`like spam, spam, spam, website
23:35.15HjalteI see :)
23:35.16profalbertah, so there is no rule in badboy that reports player's that spam a /2-macro to often?
23:35.32Funkeh`profalbert, naah
23:35.54Funkeh`I've seen LFG idiots in trade that spam often
23:36.03Funkeh`boost me to X
23:36.05Funkeh`macroz
23:36.07Funkeh`gogogo
23:36.53profalbertFunkeh`: did you ever have reports of "false positives" with BadBoy?
23:37.11Funkeh`once, in over a month
23:37.30Funkeh`was someone saying something along the lines of 'no we don't want to visit goldwebsite.com'
23:38.00Funkeh`but in my poinion, saying that is advertising the website anyway, and should be reported
23:38.12Funkeh`the gm will probably ignore it but meh
23:38.22Funkeh`it's filtered at least
23:38.45profalbertJust wanted to say. these reaction-spammers need to be filtered too;)
23:39.03Funkeh`yup
23:40.57Funkeh`i'm totally not comfortable knowing theres this stupid flash exploit and it's been over a day with no fix
23:41.18Funkeh`it's friends and family i'm worried about
23:41.31Funkeh`'over 20,000 sites affected'
23:42.04profalbertwell, guess that will happen more often in the future...
23:42.30profalbertFlash, java, ... nice but also vulnurable
23:42.48Funkeh`it just sucks it's not only something as popular as flash, but on top of that's it's the very latest version, and every version previous
23:43.27Funkeh`the thing about java is it has a self updater
23:43.47Funkeh`with flash i need to email people with instructions
23:43.53Funkeh`or explain it to them
23:44.00profalbertright, that's odd
23:45.09profalbertI stopped trying to explain such things... people just say things like "won't happen to me anyways"
23:45.37profalbertkinda tired of that
23:45.45Funkeh`yeah, they are like that until they get hacked
23:46.01Funkeh`then they ask me to help them, and they will always listen to advice after that
23:46.19Funkeh`hugs Seerah
23:46.29Seerahhugs Funky
23:46.35profalbertmost people need to learn it the hard way
23:46.51Funkeh`unfortunately
23:49.56VonhintenHOME`Why are they calling this SQL Injection attacks...
23:50.05VonhintenHOME`How does SQL have anything to do with Flash
23:50.20Funkeh`VonhintenHOME`, I think that's on the websites containing flash material
23:50.32Funkeh`so that friendly website X becomes deadly website X
23:51.23VonhintenHOME`how does the bad shit end up on an end user's machine
23:51.48Funkeh`both I'd assume
23:52.13Funkeh`imagine youtube got hacked
23:52.17Funkeh`=lots of fucked people
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23:53.12VonhintenHOME`so what you're saying is, a website gets hacked, it starts streaming malicious shit through flash to my computer, the flash plugin on my computer then takes that maliscious shit and runs it on my computer?
23:53.27VonhintenHOME`How does Flash have that kind of access?  Isn't it run in a sandbox?
23:54.00Funkeh`I don't think so
23:54.03VonhintenHOME`That's 3 different layers of security that need to be breached
23:54.04profalbertit's run inside the browser
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23:54.24profalbertunder XP the browser is often run with admin-rights
23:54.31ZyndromeI know, add a wildcard filter in BadBoy!
23:54.42Zyndrome"*"
23:54.44DashkalFlash is the sandbox, it isn't run within another
23:54.53Funkeh`Zyndrome, for?
23:55.17Zyndromereporting anything and anyone, cause all I see is either tradespam or goldspam :S
23:55.19VonhintenHOME`Does IE or Firefox run properly under a strict user credential?
23:55.27Funkeh`hehe
23:55.38Funkeh`i don't run ff with admin
23:55.44Funkeh`infact i run ff in a sandbox
23:55.53DashkalFF can be.  IE is pretty much part of the OS so *shrugs*
23:56.10VonhintenHOME`IE is an application
23:56.13profalbertunder vista IE runs in it's own kind of sandbox
23:56.20durcynVonhintenHOME`: shdocvw.dll disagrees with you
23:56.31profalbertwith even fewer rights than normal user
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23:57.03DashkalWow, they actually complied with the court order to decouple IE from the kernel?
23:57.16*** mode/#wowace [-b Zorkmid25!*@*] by Funkeh`
23:57.21*** mode/#wowace [-b *!i=Zorkmid2@*.dsl.bell.ca] by Funkeh`
23:57.37Funkeh`ban list should be unlimited
23:57.53Funkeh`Dashkal, ? I thought that was WMP?
23:57.58DashkalThat too
23:58.11DashkalM$ has used that 'trick' more than once...
23:58.21ShirikFunkeh`: you could ban everyone and then add exceptions :)
23:58.28DashkalIn the case of IE, it was intimately coupled with the file explorer.
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23:59.39DashkalProblem is the file explorer was (still is?) part of the OS rather than an app on top of it like, say, Konqueror.

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