| 00:00.15 | aestil | my old guild had a loot concil system |
| 00:00.23 | aestil | it worked very well, much less dusted loot |
| 00:00.27 | aestil | best overall gearing up of the raid |
| 00:00.37 | NeoTron | so the DK deathcoil purely damaging an enemy target or healing a pet |
| 00:00.38 | aestil | and we only assigned loot once every so often |
| 00:00.44 | NeoTron | with nohorror effect |
| 00:00.47 | aestil | if 3 people could use, and the upgrade was 'close' they rolled |
| 00:00.50 | NeoTron | why the heck is ti called death coil ? |
| 00:00.58 | Kaaosa- | Because that's what the original Death Coil was |
| 00:01.07 | Kaaosa- | In WC3 |
| 00:01.10 | NeoTron | bit too late for that now |
| 00:01.14 | Kaaosa- | Psh, no way |
| 00:01.21 | Kaaosa- | I want them to give Paladins the original Exorcism |
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| 00:01.33 | Kaaosa- | Drains all mana and does damage base don how much mana you had |
| 00:01.45 | Kaaosa- | Could one shot Death Knights in WC2 :V |
| 00:01.46 | Aiiane | I'm sure mages wouldn't mind the original Polymorph |
| 00:02.02 | Aiiane | "ohai, you're a sheep...forever" |
| 00:02.06 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Hey, is there a list of spells or do you have to use the search on that site? |
| 00:02.15 | NeoTron | so lock DC => warcraft 2 DC, DK deathcloil => WC3 |
| 00:02.18 | Arrowmaster | leave the search feild blank |
| 00:02.30 | Arrowmaster | and curse of weakness gets an attack speed debuff |
| 00:02.38 | NeoTron | orly? |
| 00:02.42 | Xuerian | awesome |
| 00:02.47 | Xuerian | Most useless curse ever needed some love |
| 00:02.48 | Arrowmaster | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=50511 |
| 00:03.08 | Kaaosa- | lol |
| 00:03.10 | Arrowmaster | now well need more warlocks per raid to put it up |
| 00:03.20 | Xuerian | Da-da-da-daaaa affliction LOOOOCk |
| 00:03.24 | NeoTron | holy crap |
| 00:03.34 | NeoTron | 20% attack speed debuff |
| 00:03.44 | NeoTron | that's insanely good |
| 00:03.48 | CIA-42 | 03sayclub 07GridStatusRaid * r74602 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/RaidStatuses.lua: |
| 00:03.48 | CIA-42 | GridStatusRaid : |
| 00:03.48 | CIA-42 | - Fixed a error |
| 00:03.57 | Arrowmaster | the attackpower reduction is too low though |
| 00:04.01 | Aiiane | <RaidBossX> Immune. |
| 00:04.02 | Aiiane | :P |
| 00:04.03 | NeoTron | it's the same still |
| 00:04.14 | NeoTron | but 20% attack speed debuff is a lot more than some -AP can do |
| 00:04.27 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: I take it there's no by-class search yet >_> |
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| 00:04.46 | NeoTron | it's just raw spell data |
| 00:05.09 | Xuerian | rawr |
| 00:06.21 | NeoTron | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=46434 <- not a lock spell probably since it's unranked and wording is different |
| 00:06.50 | NeoTron | would be nice if CoE did dmg :P |
| 00:07.28 | NeoTron | 50/0/21 might be a pretty hot spec |
| 00:07.48 | NeoTron | removing the need to renew corruption up plus the haste/crit buffs in affliction + ruin |
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| 00:12.20 | CIA-42 | 03p3lim * r74603 10oUF_P3lim/oUF_P3lim.lua: oUF_P3lim: Fixed a faulty local |
| 00:14.52 | NeoTron | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=47651 |
| 00:17.32 | Dashkal | finally got to the warlock section |
| 00:17.39 | Dashkal | Chaos damage? oooo, pretty |
| 00:17.54 | Dashkal | My barkskin hurts already... |
| 00:18.20 | Dashkal | Since it appears that'll be the first known source of damage that can ignore it... |
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| 00:19.16 | Primer | say I have a macro: /use 14; /cast Greater Heal |
| 00:19.32 | Primer | is there a way to suppress the "Item is not ready" message just for that macro? |
| 00:20.28 | selckin | errormoster |
| 00:20.31 | selckin | or something |
| 00:20.37 | NeoTron | they are buffing lightwell |
| 00:20.40 | dre^ | yes, basically you hide the frame before and show it again after |
| 00:20.48 | dre^ | you can do the same thing to mask the error sound effect |
| 00:20.54 | NeoTron | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=48087 note any _direct_ damage will cancel it |
| 00:21.00 | NeoTron | i.e it works if you have dots on you |
| 00:21.32 | dre^ | they should make it clear all debuffs! except certain ones that would make boss encounters too easy... |
| 00:21.46 | dre^ | cloak of lightwell |
| 00:21.55 | dre^ | lighticewellblock |
| 00:22.12 | NeoTron | Dashkal: screw barkskin. how about DS pally on low health => chaos soul fire.. chaos fear.. chaos death coil |
| 00:22.39 | Dashkal | promptly rolls a warlock |
| 00:24.06 | Dashkal | wow, they really want you to alternate schools... |
| 00:24.36 | NeoTron | they absolutely need to make soulshatter unresistable |
| 00:24.50 | Dashkal | Miner's Revenge - "Hurls your pick axe at the target, inflicting $s1 Physical damage, ignoring any armor." |
| 00:24.52 | NeoTron | or we have +6% aff spell hit and +5% dest spell hit... that we can't rely on |
| 00:25.06 | Dashkal | That's an angle I wasn't expecting for mining to give character benifits... |
| 00:25.15 | NeoTron | Dashkal: sounds very much like an npc spell |
| 00:25.47 | Dashkal | I remember in the interviews Tom was talking about how even gathering profs would give some sort of benifiet in terms of power rather than wealth. |
| 00:26.00 | Dashkal | (I think it was tom, it was one of the leads, anyway) |
| 00:26.25 | Dashkal | shrugs and waits for the real beta to confirm |
| 00:26.41 | Kemayo | Huh. http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=47241 |
| 00:26.44 | Estil | world of warlockcraft is coming in wotlk |
| 00:26.53 | Xuerian | Imma stab you with my PICKAXE |
| 00:27.06 | Dashkal | It does look pretty nifty :p |
| 00:27.06 | Xuerian | Kemayo: Leveling my warlock just in time :D |
| 00:27.13 | Xuerian | (Thinking of DotA here) |
| 00:27.16 | Dashkal | I rather hope it does become a miner power :p |
| 00:27.30 | Xuerian | so long as i can use it while shapeshifted |
| 00:27.47 | NeoTron | mthis is one spell |
| 00:27.58 | NeoTron | that is a 51 pt destro spell which means no raiding lock would take it |
| 00:28.08 | NeoTron | and pvping with 51 pt destro .. err. yeah |
| 00:28.17 | NeoTron | so don't worry, I don't expect anyone to actually use it |
| 00:28.22 | Xuerian | NeoTron: What, metamorphosis? |
| 00:28.26 | Zyndrome | demonform... |
| 00:28.30 | Zyndrome | taps Turn Evil |
| 00:28.40 | Xuerian | "Turn" evil? We ARE evil |
| 00:28.40 | NeoTron | no that's demonology |
| 00:28.48 | NeoTron | Decimate |
| 00:28.51 | Xuerian | NeoTron: Oh, what one are you talking a |
| 00:28.52 | Xuerian | bout. |
| 00:28.56 | Xuerian | Yeah that >_>.. |
| 00:29.13 | NeoTron | meamorphosis is a coolldown based, short duration buff from the looks of it |
| 00:29.18 | NeoTron | i.e a "oh shit I'm about to die" thing |
| 00:29.23 | NeoTron | 5 minute cooldown I heard |
| 00:29.31 | NeoTron | it's not a shadow form for demo warlocks |
| 00:29.41 | NeoTron | it's a variation oficeblock |
| 00:29.46 | Xuerian | I didn't think so, but I was thinking it was more a 15-minute cd 2-minute form kind of thing |
| 00:29.57 | Estil | warlocks4life |
| 00:30.23 | sacarasc_ | what do rogues and noobs have in common? they both pick locks |
| 00:30.51 | Xuerian | sacarasc_: Amen |
| 00:30.57 | Xuerian | sacarasc_: <-- noob |
| 00:30.57 | Estil | pick on locks rather imo |
| 00:31.06 | NeoTron | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=50533 http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=50541 |
| 00:31.11 | NeoTron | mounted dragon spells? |
| 00:31.33 | Xuerian | NeoTron: would make sense with all the vehicle stuff |
| 00:31.57 | NeoTron | Typhoon <--- power of Zul'jin from druids |
| 00:32.02 | NeoTron | how amazingly annoying |
| 00:32.13 | Estil | I'm set for all fotm classes! |
| 00:32.45 | NeoTron | another quest one perhaps: http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=50500 |
| 00:33.05 | NeoTron | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=50487 let's do the disco dance! |
| 00:33.45 | Kemayo | Oh, the PvPers will be QQing... http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=47116 |
| 00:34.03 | NeoTron | it's a very small amount |
| 00:34.19 | NeoTron | like 15% to take 4 rage / 2% mana [whatever] every 3 seconds |
| 00:34.27 | NeoTron | imho looks useless |
| 00:35.04 | NeoTron | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=50493 disco ball debuff! |
| 00:35.09 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r74604 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/keyBound.xml: |
| 00:35.09 | CIA-42 | LibKeyBound-1.0: |
| 00:35.09 | CIA-42 | - Delete old file |
| 00:35.30 | Kemayo | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=46923 <-- I wonder what the % slow here is. |
| 00:35.30 | NeoTron | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=50483 http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=50482 |
| 00:35.50 | NeoTron | Kemayo: 20% |
| 00:35.56 | NeoTron | on max range |
| 00:36.00 | NeoTron | 28% with 1 talent point I think |
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| 00:38.46 | Arrowmaster | omg all adds on dragonhawk at once, almost wiped |
| 00:39.07 | Arrowmaster | 18min left and hes at 20% |
| 00:39.27 | NeoTron | we wipes :-( |
| 00:39.31 | NeoTron | prot warrior died |
| 00:39.34 | NeoTron | I mean prot pally |
| 00:39.54 | NeoTron | and not only that. some moron managed to cause us to pull 4 extra patrol adds |
| 00:40.05 | NeoTron | which is about the same HP as the bosses in there (not bear but alas) |
| 00:40.47 | Arrowmaster | 17min when 3rd boss died |
| 00:40.52 | Arrowmaster | think well get our first bearmount |
| 00:41.35 | NeoTron | so the new primals are called eternals |
| 00:41.38 | NeoTron | eternal water.. |
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| 00:47.29 | Aerr | wait |
| 00:47.34 | Aerr | died on dragonhawk? |
| 00:47.42 | Aerr | did he stand in a bomb or something |
| 00:47.58 | NeoTron | good question actually |
| 00:48.10 | NeoTron | but we had two weaker healers (geared up in T6 for two weeks) |
| 00:48.16 | NeoTron | it might simply have been a healing snafu |
| 00:48.36 | Aerr | Eh. i was lesser geared then that healing it |
| 00:48.40 | Aerr | when we got our first |
| 00:49.00 | Aerr | so cant be healing, unless they have horrible reaction time |
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| 00:50.01 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74605 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 00:50.01 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:50.01 | CIA-42 | - Fixed a minor frame bug |
| 00:50.42 | NeoTron | what is 'lesser geared' exactly? |
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| 00:51.59 | Primer | Supposedly people are making mad gold from running so-called Sunwell GKPs |
| 00:52.08 | NeoTron | wtf don't I see his death |
| 00:52.15 | Primer | this one dude claims to have made 5k gold today alone |
| 00:52.19 | selckin | dkp ? |
| 00:52.22 | Primer | GKP |
| 00:52.25 | Primer | Gold |
| 00:52.32 | Primer | they basically auction off drops |
| 00:52.45 | Primer | and they simply run trash, no bosses |
| 00:52.58 | Primer | the core of the group is like 15 people from a guild |
| 00:53.07 | Primer | and 10 pugs (AKA bidders) |
| 00:53.08 | vithos | so 5000/15? |
| 00:53.13 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74606 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 00:53.13 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:53.13 | CIA-42 | - Fixed another frame issue |
| 00:53.15 | Primer | no |
| 00:53.18 | selckin | trash drops? |
| 00:53.20 | Primer | 5000 personal |
| 00:53.21 | Primer | yes |
| 00:53.29 | Primer | shit like patterns and gems |
| 00:53.35 | Primer | one pattern sold for 22k |
| 00:53.38 | selckin | just need alot of sheeps |
| 00:53.40 | Primer | sunfire robe |
| 00:53.42 | selckin | thras is easy to farm |
| 00:53.54 | selckin | we have way crap droprate tho |
| 00:53.59 | vithos | yeah, drop rate is terrible |
| 00:54.13 | Primer | the dude that claims the 5k says he's run 10 times today |
| 00:54.49 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.51 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 00:55.03 | selckin | we've farmed trash for a few hours before/after raids |
| 00:55.10 | selckin | drop rates blow too much imo |
| 00:55.36 | NeoTron | nah just sems like he wasn't healed sufficiently |
| 00:56.11 | NeoTron | Primer: we haven't even gotten a sunfire robe drop yet |
| 00:56.25 | NeoTron | and often you get nothing |
| 00:56.32 | selckin | we have 2 chest pattern on our realm |
| 00:56.39 | selckin | 5 guilds |
| 00:56.40 | NeoTron | so to have made 75k in one day seems a bit rough |
| 00:56.59 | NeoTron | it is I guess possible |
| 00:57.37 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74607 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 00:57.37 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:57.37 | CIA-42 | - Added debug message for test gui |
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| 00:58.03 | DARKGuy | ^_^ |
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| 00:58.25 | DARKGuy | Hey, who is the author of SharedMedia ? |
| 00:58.30 | selckin | gold is becoming sick anyway |
| 00:58.34 | selckin | everyone has way too much of it |
| 00:58.43 | DARKGuy | it's like real life money :3 |
| 00:58.49 | DARKGuy | you can't never get enough |
| 00:58.50 | DARKGuy | >:D |
| 00:59.01 | Seerah | Elkano, and I'm the goto person for MyMedia. What's up? |
| 00:59.02 | selckin | true! |
| 01:00.00 | DARKGuy | Seerah, oh, cool XD. I wanted to know how would be if I could make a bash script (along with supplying .exe files for running it under windows) to automatically make a .lua file with new media you import. Kinda like those playlist generators for WoW MP3 Players |
| 01:00.06 | DARKGuy | but, less sucky :P |
| 01:00.32 | Xuerian | Should be able to do it in a .bat file |
| 01:00.33 | Seerah | there is a batch script in the MyMedia thread |
| 01:00.37 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 01:00.47 | Xuerian | Seerah: Got a link to that? |
| 01:00.55 | DARKGuy | huh, I didn't know .bat was that advanced. It wasn't back in my times :P |
| 01:00.59 | Seerah | we just never got around to adding it to the main dist, cause Elkano was saying he might change the lib a bit |
| 01:02.49 | Seerah | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6063.msg188406#msg188406 |
| 01:03.13 | DARKGuy | Oh, somebody else beat me to it heh xD |
| 01:03.36 | Seerah | yeah. we have permission to add it, I just gotta check to see if Elk's gonna change things around anymore |
| 01:03.52 | CIA-42 | 03p3lim * r74608 10oUF_P3lim/oUF_P3lim.lua: |
| 01:03.52 | CIA-42 | oUF_P3lim: |
| 01:03.52 | CIA-42 | - Fixed width issue with name on some units |
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| 01:04.22 | Arrowmaster | boo i rolled a 29 on the bear mount |
| 01:04.33 | selckin | i just won one an hour ago |
| 01:04.34 | selckin | :D |
| 01:04.39 | Xuerian | Seerah: Why not make MyMedia loadwith SharedMedia and use SharedMedia's register function? |
| 01:04.43 | selckin | 80 is my new favorite number |
| 01:05.06 | Xuerian | Seerah: Registering the way it is seems to not get picked up by addons moving to SML3 |
| 01:05.08 | Seerah | you mean as a separate addon, X? |
| 01:05.12 | Xuerian | That or I'm doing something wrong |
| 01:05.14 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 01:05.32 | Seerah | it works perfectly fine with LSM3 |
| 01:05.36 | Xuerian | =\ |
| 01:05.48 | Seerah | and originally it was its own addon, but Elk thought it best to include it with SM |
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| 01:05.55 | Xuerian | First Quartz now Pitbull aren't picking up the textures I register with it anymore. /sigh |
| 01:06.11 | Arrowmaster | quartz uses LSM3? |
| 01:06.28 | Xuerian | That statement was erroneous |
| 01:06.43 | Seerah | you need to make sure that your MyMedia.lua file matches the instructions. SM was rewritten to work with all libs |
| 01:06.44 | Xuerian | I don't know that it's addons using LSM3 aren't picking it up, just... random ones |
| 01:06.54 | Seerah | you're using the old method |
| 01:07.09 | Seerah | or you still have SharedMedia-2.0 or something |
| 01:07.13 | DARKGuy | Seerah, but my SharedMedia doesn't use MyMedia.lua :/ |
| 01:07.15 | Seerah | instead of using SharedMedia |
| 01:07.31 | Seerah | DARKGuy: hmm? |
| 01:07.51 | DARKGuy | Seerah, I mean, I have the latest one taken from jWoWUpdater, will it still work with that .bat file? |
| 01:08.24 | Seerah | yes. That bat file was written after the change. Because people needed to update their MyMedia.lua to work with the new way media needed to be registered |
| 01:08.57 | DARKGuy | Ohh okay, I thought it was still using SharedMedia.lua, heh :P |
| 01:09.19 | Xuerian | Seerah: Should I remove LSM-2.0 from my addons? 0_o |
| 01:09.25 | Seerah | no |
| 01:09.27 | Seerah | that's a lib |
| 01:09.53 | Seerah | but someone wrote SharedMedia-2.0 and then there was a SharedMedia-3.0 (storage, not lib) |
| 01:10.12 | Arrowmaster | SharedMedia-3.0 never made it off of branches |
| 01:10.13 | Seerah | but those were deleted and the original SharedMedia storage addon rewritten |
| 01:10.40 | Xuerian | Nope, I just have SharedMedia |
| 01:10.58 | Seerah | and are you registering your media correctly? According to the instructions file? |
| 01:11.12 | Seerah | did you update your code after the change? |
| 01:12.18 | Xuerian | I'm using the same method explained in your MyMedia package, except MyMedia.lua instead of core.lua |
| 01:13.01 | Seerah | o.O you still have the old, original MyMedia addon? |
| 01:13.05 | stew_a | ok i just did /dump GetNumAddOns() and i'm slightly worried, what woud you say is the largest that number should really be? |
| 01:13.39 | Aerr | mines 309 |
| 01:13.39 | Xuerian | Seerah: that's the old way? -_-.. |
| 01:13.54 | stew_a | Ahh you make me feel better Aerr :-) |
| 01:13.57 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 01:14.00 | Seerah | yeah :) MyMedia is included with SharedMedia now. If you open up your SharedMedia folder, you'll see the instructions file :) |
| 01:14.02 | Aerr | lol |
| 01:14.08 | stew_a | a mere 215 here |
| 01:14.16 | Starinnia | 221 here |
| 01:14.28 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:14.30 | Arrowmaster | 397 |
| 01:14.35 | Seerah | that's okay, X - you've been in and out of wow for a little bit :) |
| 01:14.35 | Xuerian | Seerah: Well that's probably it... Had WaU on delete-before-extract so I went with the addon method. /shrug will do the sm method |
| 01:14.51 | Stanzilla | 137 :) |
| 01:15.00 | Xuerian | Seerah: Only a little x.x |
| 01:15.26 | Seerah | well, glad you're back :P |
| 01:15.37 | Stanzilla | I need a simple border for my kgPanels..just a white line...suggestions? |
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| 01:17.06 | Xuerian | Seerah: Ahh, so you pretty much are doing that now |
| 01:17.33 | Seerah | you'll want to back it up before updating if it's on delete before extract |
| 01:17.44 | Xuerian | Seerah: I'll just write a loadwith mymedia addon :) |
| 01:17.53 | Seerah | or you could pull it out and make it your own personal addon. Like the SM derivatives (SharedMedia-Blizzard, etc) |
| 01:17.59 | Seerah | yeah |
| 01:20.47 | stew_a | does purl have any other amusing commands apart from ~slap and ~whaleparry? |
| 01:21.47 | Aeyan | ~fail stew_a |
| 01:21.48 | purl | stew_a: FAIL! |
| 01:22.01 | Arrowmaster | ~lart stew_a |
| 01:22.01 | purl | DoSes stew_a |
| 01:22.29 | stew_a | lol thanks |
| 01:26.57 | Seerah | you can do /msg purl help |
| 01:29.35 | DARKGuy | Well, that isn't working. |
| 01:29.52 | DARKGuy | And by that I mean the .bat file |
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| 01:32.01 | Silverstorm | Funkeh`: ping |
| 01:32.22 | Funkeh` | hi |
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| 01:32.36 | Silverstorm | hey, where do you want what I have for SB Mail? |
| 01:32.47 | Funkeh` | branches |
| 01:32.50 | Silverstorm | kk |
| 01:33.26 | Seerah | what's not working, DARKGuy? |
| 01:34.32 | Silverstorm | ok, committing...think I got the path right :-p |
| 01:34.43 | CIA-42 | 03Silverstorm * r74609 10/branches/StatBlocks_Mail/ (8 files in 4 dirs): StatBlocks_Mail: Initial commit. Works at mailbox, sometimes on login, no AH mail support yet. |
| 01:35.29 | DARKGuy | Seerah, I used the .bat file, put my media on it and let it continue, but when I go to WoW, kgPanels and Chatter don't get my new images/fonts :( |
| 01:35.52 | Seerah | were you completely exited out of the game when you did so? |
| 01:35.57 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 01:36.09 | Seerah | I just used the batch script recently |
| 01:36.28 | Xuerian | Seerah: Awesome, works now. Thanks for pointing that out. |
| 01:37.03 | Seerah | does your MyMedia.lua file look like the instructions, DARKGuy? |
| 01:37.54 | DARKGuy | Seerah, it does :P |
| 01:38.34 | Seerah | then it should work. As long as you were exited out of the game |
| 01:38.37 | DARKGuy | I just deleted the addon, redownloaded and tried the .bat file again |
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| 01:38.53 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 01:39.09 | Seerah | morning again Kaelten ;) |
| 01:39.51 | DARKGuy | Seerah, well no workie :( |
| 01:39.59 | DARKGuy | tries something else |
| 01:40.21 | Starinnia | try the sledgehammer, that usually works for me :P |
| 01:40.32 | DARKGuy | yeaaaaaah |
| 01:40.32 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 01:41.32 | DARKGuy | haha guess what |
| 01:41.41 | DARKGuy | I replaced SharedMedia.lua with MyMedia.lua, renaming it |
| 01:41.42 | DARKGuy | and it worked |
| 01:41.43 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 01:41.53 | Seerah | huh? |
| 01:42.18 | Starinnia | do you need to add MyMedia.lua to the SharedMedia toc file? |
| 01:42.23 | Seerah | nope |
| 01:42.36 | Starinnia | weird... |
| 01:42.40 | Starinnia | why'd it work renamed? |
| 01:42.47 | Starinnia | but not normally |
| 01:42.53 | DARKGuy | MyMedia.lua wasn't being loaded, is my guess |
| 01:43.02 | Seerah | it's in the toc |
| 01:44.31 | DARKGuy | Seerah, yeah... |
| 01:44.32 | DARKGuy | COMMENTED |
| 01:44.33 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 01:44.37 | DARKGuy | Core.lua |
| 01:44.38 | DARKGuy | SharedMedia.lua |
| 01:44.38 | DARKGuy | #MyMedia.lua |
| 01:44.40 | Seerah | then you have an old version of the addon |
| 01:45.06 | DARKGuy | How do I check if I have the newest version? |
| 01:45.19 | Seerah | it was commented out by someone else to prevent FrameXML errors and I undid that the next day. This was about 4 months ago |
| 01:45.35 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 01:46.07 | Seerah | oh... longer than that |
| 01:46.21 | Seerah | 52527 by seerah on 18 October 2007, 19:56:50 -0700 (7 months ago) SharedMedia: uncommented MyMedia in toc - lay users should have as little trouble as possible, while advanced users who care about FrameXML errors know to comment it out |
| 01:46.21 | Seerah | /hug Funky |
| 01:46.24 | DARKGuy | weird. Latest changelog entry I got in my addon folder is r70014 by apoco, on 2008-04-16 |
| 01:46.54 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:47.01 | Funkeh` | was it that long ago |
| 01:47.07 | Funkeh` | time flies |
| 01:47.12 | Apoco | lol |
| 01:47.13 | Apoco | what? |
| 01:47.33 | Seerah | yeah, it was :P still /hug Funky |
| 01:47.48 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.51 | DARKGuy | and jWU downloaded SharedMedia, LibSharedMedia-3.0 too, so it can't be wrong |
| 01:47.52 | DARKGuy | oh well. |
| 01:48.46 | Funkeh` | seriously wow, time goes way too fast |
| 01:49.37 | Seerah | yeah, it does |
| 01:50.17 | Deri-PC | is there a library that supports over-sized messages like AceComm and supports custom data channels? |
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| 01:53.05 | stew_a | is OnEnable too late to register Variables_loaded? |
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| 01:54.20 | psychogears | What do I have to do to be able to edit AceGUI-3.0? |
| 01:54.46 | psychogears | or is the general public not allowed to edit that? |
| 01:55.03 | selckin | first you would learn to not edit other ppls addon without their concent |
| 01:55.35 | psychogears | Guess that's a "don't touch", then. |
| 01:55.52 | stew_a | note to self: register events before relying on them /d'oh |
| 01:58.16 | ulic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:59.59 | Seerah | no, patch pasted on Jira is what was requested |
| 02:00.32 | ulic | there you go |
| 02:01.41 | psychogears | Jira? |
| 02:01.44 | psychogears | What is that? |
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| 02:02.38 | Seerah | bug tracker. it's linked on wowace front page |
| 02:02.39 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74610 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua: |
| 02:02.39 | CIA-42 | TIRaid: |
| 02:02.39 | CIA-42 | - Initial gui development. |
| 02:02.43 | Starinnia | http://jira.wowace.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa |
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| 02:08.01 | sztanpet | im using pitbull and want to make a module for it, im inheriting the mixin librockevent-1.0 but when i call self:DispatchNamespaceEvent it fails with attempt to call method, a nill value |
| 02:08.16 | sztanpet | what am i doing wrong |
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| 02:31.44 | CIA-42 | 03ananhaid * r74611 10Parrot/Locales/ (ParrotLocale-zhCN.lua ParrotLocale-zhTW.lua): |
| 02:31.44 | CIA-42 | Parrot: |
| 02:31.44 | CIA-42 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 02:48.07 | Xinhuan | when you are tanking gurtogg bloodboil with felrage, do you still generate 0 threat? |
| 02:48.14 | Antiarc | yes |
| 02:52.39 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r74612 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Fix Fungal Bloom (Loatheb) by moving it from BuffModifiers to DebuffModifiers. |
| 02:52.56 | selckin | important bugfix! |
| 02:52.58 | selckin | :) |
| 02:54.56 | CIA-42 | 03Bangerz * r74613 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/BangLibramSwap.lua: |
| 02:54.56 | CIA-42 | Bang!_Libram_Swap: |
| 02:54.56 | CIA-42 | -LoM Slider added |
| 03:11.36 | Ackis | whhhweee full T6 finally |
| 03:12.29 | DARKGuy | Whee congrats Ackis :D |
| 03:12.41 | selckin | gz :) |
| 03:12.45 | selckin | i bet you take prot tokens |
| 03:12.55 | Ackis | conq |
| 03:13.14 | selckin | prot has like 80% drop rate for my guild, its stupid :( |
| 03:13.18 | Ackis | vanq is off spec now, conq has had a low drop |
| 03:13.32 | elite3vil | We've got a pally in raid that keeps rolling offspec on the t6 conq stuff, when they never go offspec for raids and I do. =\ |
| 03:13.37 | Estil | grats on full t6~ |
| 03:13.40 | Estil | I want to get full s3. :( |
| 03:13.50 | selckin | i still need boots :( |
| 03:13.50 | Xelopheris | afk for 3 months |
| 03:13.51 | Xelopheris | and win |
| 03:13.57 | Xelopheris | Our guild has a record with conq |
| 03:14.07 | Xelopheris | for three weeks now, tripl conq on all t6 bosses and conq off twins |
| 03:14.33 | Xelopheris | At least we have two pallies spontaneously with full ret and prot sets :P |
| 03:14.35 | DARKGuy | man I wanna change my UI, but I'm out of ideas :( -> http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/484/wowscrnshot052008224051iq3.jpg I want it compact, with the chat at the right =/ |
| 03:14.58 | Xelopheris | DARKGuy, the first step is to lower the size of your unit frames |
| 03:15.12 | Xelopheris | You don't need class or race if you use classcolor for your healthbars |
| 03:15.17 | Xelopheris | Level can be moved into name |
| 03:15.29 | DARKGuy | Xelopheris, yeah I have that in mind, maybe something sleek like I've seen in some screenies |
| 03:15.41 | Xelopheris | then remove the micromenubar entirely |
| 03:15.51 | Xelopheris | everything on it can be keybound to something normally unused |
| 03:16.10 | Xelopheris | Then swap the chat left because it looks weird on teh right O_o, and lower the font size and height |
| 03:16.31 | Xelopheris | Also, if you have $$, get a widescreen monitor :) |
| 03:16.51 | DARKGuy | Xelopheris, that's on my mind too, but it's very out of my budget for now, at least for a few months |
| 03:17.08 | DARKGuy | but yes I plan to get a 22" widescreen one :p |
| 03:17.22 | Xelopheris | in other news, I'm looking at a druid with 513 Defense. Not defense rating, 513 DEFENSE skill |
| 03:17.46 | Dark_Elf | wow looks good on a 22 |
| 03:17.57 | Xelopheris | looks better on 29 wide :) |
| 03:18.04 | DARKGuy | hates |
| 03:18.17 | Xelopheris | Although I miss having two 19 wides |
| 03:18.33 | Xelopheris | I had two ultra-thin-border 19 inch monitors for a while, made some stuff look incredible |
| 03:18.59 | DARKGuy | someone should make a monitor where you could remove the borders |
| 03:19.13 | DARKGuy | and stick them together with magnets or something |
| 03:19.41 | Xelopheris | You realize you just said "put magnets into a monitor" |
| 03:19.45 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 03:19.47 | DARKGuy | that'd suck |
| 03:19.51 | DARKGuy | but, you get the idea |
| 03:19.53 | DARKGuy | something sticky |
| 03:19.55 | Xelopheris | but the border is necessary for the wiring for the rows of LCD's |
| 03:20.43 | Xelopheris | speaking of which, ever hit your monitor on the side wrong and get 8 rows of LCD's burnt out? |
| 03:20.48 | DARKGuy | I think they can be bend or something, make them really really thin or something, I've never took an LCD apart :P |
| 03:21.11 | DARKGuy | no, but I once had a 14" mono CRT which I had to hit hard so it worked |
| 03:21.14 | Xelopheris | the ultra-thin border shit csots an arm and a leg |
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| 03:27.13 | DARKGuy | huh |
| 03:29.38 | Dark_Elf | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.57 | DARKGuy | that's gonna suck. |
| 03:30.31 | Corey | bring back the old blizzard ;\ |
| 03:30.40 | Corey | at least most of their ideas weren't stupid |
| 03:30.53 | Xinhuan | why would you want more than 1 anyway, other than the fact you might want one per faction |
| 03:31.12 | Corey | exactly that |
| 03:31.25 | DARKGuy | Activision had to come to crap on everything |
| 03:31.25 | DARKGuy | huh. |
| 03:31.56 | Dark_Elf | i cant imagine a death knight as a hero, the death knights in diablo were truly evil, they should of made them horde characters been more fun |
| 03:32.00 | Estil | I woudln't say activision |
| 03:32.03 | Estil | I'd blame vivendi |
| 03:32.03 | Estil | :p |
| 03:32.12 | DARKGuy | heh xD |
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| 03:52.04 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r74614 10FBagOfHolding/ (4 files): |
| 03:52.04 | CIA-42 | FBagOfHolding: |
| 03:52.04 | CIA-42 | - Added item type and equip slot filters. Fixed a bug that would cause filter |
| 03:52.04 | CIA-42 | settings to not appear if no name value is set (should default to showing the |
| 03:52.04 | CIA-42 | actual value). Also, changed new filters to default to the first option if a |
| 03:52.05 | CIA-42 | list of options is available. |
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| 03:58.55 | Ackis | Ping Funkeh` |
| 03:59.12 | elite3vil | Does anyone else have issues with hunters always pulling agro? |
| 03:59.22 | kenlyric | elite3vil: yes. |
| 03:59.25 | Xuerian | They're hunters |
| 03:59.30 | kenlyric | it's the game's way of telling you to gkick them |
| 03:59.34 | Xuerian | isn't that what they do? |
| 03:59.38 | Ackis | if only hunters had an ability whihc would let them reduce agro to 0 |
| 03:59.39 | Funkeh` | Ackis, |
| 03:59.49 | Xuerian | Ackis: I know, it's a pity |
| 04:00.00 | Ackis | Funkeh`: Just killed edadar twins, got double "vicotry" noises |
| 04:00.06 | kenlyric | or a way to stop all aggro production if it fails |
| 04:00.21 | Xuerian | kenlyric: They just have it so hard |
| 04:04.00 | Ackis | wheee pvp neck from twins |
| 04:05.58 | Ackis | so I lootwhored it up |
| 04:08.16 | elite3vil | lol |
| 04:08.26 | elite3vil | I love how people blame Omen when they pull agro |
| 04:08.36 | elite3vil | Hunter a: "I was at 60% agro on Omen!" |
| 04:08.54 | elite3vil | Hunter b: "My FD resisted and I pulled agro" |
| 04:09.22 | selckin | "i was in melee range" |
| 04:09.35 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 04:10.28 | elite3vil | hrm, Omen just showed an update on WAU as <1min ago |
| 04:10.41 | elite3vil | but the changelog says 18 hours ago, and I didn't see CIA say anything. |
| 04:11.03 | selckin | libthreat was updated |
| 04:11.07 | selckin | some naxx boss :p |
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| 04:18.48 | Fisker- | waves at Funkeh` |
| 04:23.43 | Xelopheris | elite3vil, unless it's immediately following a patch, most updates tend to be localizations |
| 04:23.48 | Xelopheris | With a few exceptions |
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| 04:24.26 | Xelopheris | in other news, muru sucks |
| 04:24.45 | Meril | Hello, anyone using Elkano's buff bars here? Cant get latest version to work |
| 04:24.58 | Xelopheris | Meril, what's your problem with it? |
| 04:25.07 | Meril | It just doesnt load in |
| 04:25.29 | Xelopheris | Do you have all the dependencies enabled? Do you have it checked? And Load out of Date Addons? |
| 04:25.35 | Meril | I tryed loading only that mod too, doesnt work |
| 04:25.37 | Meril | yes ofc |
| 04:25.59 | Xelopheris | when you do /ebb do you get an error? |
| 04:27.05 | Xelopheris | I'm hitting the hay, I'm sure someone else here can help you |
| 04:27.11 | Meril | ya I get error when I load into the server and have it enabled |
| 04:27.19 | Meril | wait ill get you the message |
| 04:27.42 | Meril | seems to be missing some library file |
| 04:27.46 | Meril | ye good night mate |
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| 04:29.33 | Meril | (Interface\AddOns\ElkBuffBars\ElkBuffBars.lua:2:Cannot find a library instance of "LibGratuity-3.0".) |
| 04:29.55 | Meril | Anyone get this when they load elkano buff bars and load into server? Anyone know whats wrong here? |
| 04:29.58 | Meril | mod doesnt work |
| 04:30.21 | Seerah | you're missing a library |
| 04:30.50 | Meril | yea |
| 04:30.55 | Meril | where I get this library? |
| 04:31.01 | Meril | cant find it |
| 04:31.02 | Seerah | how did you install the mod? |
| 04:31.06 | Meril | WAU |
| 04:31.57 | Seerah | with or without externals? |
| 04:32.07 | selckin | Xelo|zZzZ: completely agree, muru is evil |
| 04:32.15 | Meril | ill reinstall with externals |
| 04:32.22 | Meril | see if it works |
| 04:32.28 | Seerah | without means without the external libraries it needs to function |
| 04:32.32 | Meril | Seerah, ty |
| 04:32.35 | Meril | ye |
| 04:35.33 | Meril | Seerah |
| 04:35.38 | Seerah | ? |
| 04:35.39 | Meril | installed with externals |
| 04:35.41 | Meril | worked fine |
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| 04:35.45 | Meril | that was the problem, ty alot |
| 04:35.50 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning all |
| 04:35.51 | Seerah | yw :) |
| 04:36.01 | Seerah | morning |
| 04:36.05 | [SW]Dodge | why i my autojoin wont work? :( |
| 04:37.01 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r74615 10CoolDownButtons/Locales/koKR.lua: CoolDownButtons: push latest koKR from trunk |
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| 05:21.17 | Ackis | what's different between UNIT_DIED and PARTY_KILL? |
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| 05:44.52 | CIA-42 | 03tsigo * r74616 10StatBlocks_BugSack/ (. StatBlocks_BugSack.lua StatBlocks_BugSack.toc): StatBlocks_BugSack: BugSack module for StatBlocks; largely copied from SB_BigWigs. Displays error count and colored icon, and shows frame on click. No fancy tooltip error info. |
| 05:45.26 | Ackis | wow lol someone gave my dragon kite a pet biscuit and it's fuckin huge |
| 05:47.15 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74617 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua: |
| 05:47.15 | CIA-42 | TIRaid: |
| 05:47.16 | CIA-42 | - Fix loot bug |
| 05:47.16 | CIA-42 | - Removed un-needed function |
| 05:47.16 | CIA-42 | - Changed boss recognition |
| 05:47.18 | CIA-42 | - Changed how I examine combat log events (PARTY_KILL instead of UNIT_DIED) |
| 05:47.20 | CIA-42 | - Zhinjio do up a pretty gui for me :P |
| 05:50.17 | Ackis | 14% entropius wipe |
| 05:53.08 | CIA-42 | 03tsigo * r74618 10StatBlocks_BugSack/: StatBlocks_BugSack: log template |
| 05:53.57 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74619 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua: |
| 05:53.57 | CIA-42 | TIRaid: |
| 05:53.57 | CIA-42 | - Removed a few testing thingies aka commented them out |
| 05:54.37 | CIA-42 | 03tsigo * r74620 10StatBlocks_CasterStats/StatBlocks_CasterStats.lua: StatBlocks_CasterStats: Add X/Y options as requested; completely untested but it's not very complicated. |
| 05:59.22 | CIA-42 | 03adirelle * r74621 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 05:59.22 | CIA-42 | Violation: |
| 05:59.22 | CIA-42 | - pet fix, |
| 05:59.22 | CIA-42 | - avoid nil error at loading when Violation is disabled. |
| 06:02.12 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74622 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ (9 files): |
| 06:02.12 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:02.12 | CIA-42 | - Updated a few JC recipes that are from the vendor (God damnit Illidan people do the fucking quest) |
| 06:02.12 | CIA-42 | - Converted more addon: -> self: |
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| 06:09.18 | elite3vil | Ackis, why are you failing so much, jeez. |
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| 06:11.34 | Ackis | lol |
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| 06:20.31 | Melladon | hello everyone :D |
| 06:21.02 | Melladon | i just have kind of a quick question |
| 06:21.10 | Melladon | http://www.radonspace.de/uploads/images/interface18.jpg what main tank frames are those? |
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| 06:22.25 | Snago | Melladon: oRA2 |
| 06:22.37 | Melladon | kk sweet |
| 06:23.04 | Melladon | today in raid, (i just got pitbull) i couldnt see tank frames |
| 06:23.09 | Melladon | i wonder if that will fix it |
| 06:29.58 | CIA-42 | 03morgalm * r74623 10MorgDKP/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:29.58 | CIA-42 | MorgDKP: |
| 06:29.58 | CIA-42 | - WEB: improved alias handling so tells you if main doesn't exist |
| 06:29.58 | CIA-42 | - Can now add/delete aliases without having to create a fake raid |
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| 06:50.38 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r74624 10Omen/Modules/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Omen: Add % sign to AoE mode column. Add some consistency to threat % display across all 4 modules. |
| 06:54.45 | SunTsu | durcyn: I added "Brilliant Glass" to Jewelcrafting, could you please commit http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4540.msg218121#msg218121? I don't have any SVN rights |
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| 06:59.08 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r74625 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Get rid of lingering threat on dead mobs by blacklisting them as they die. This improves healing threat and dead corpses will no longer show lingering threat from players with this threat revision. |
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| 07:10.21 | CIA-42 | 03orionshock * r74627 10GuildCraft/ (. DBO.lua Localizations/enUS-Locale.lua): GuildCraft: make updates visable |
| 07:11.11 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: blacklisting them when they die? revert that asap |
| 07:11.23 | Xinhuan | it gets cleared when you exit combat |
| 07:11.30 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: i take it that the blacklist is hard coded and that on reloading it clears them? |
| 07:11.31 | Xinhuan | so its not a growing table |
| 07:11.34 | Arrowmaster | theres mobs that send death events but dont die |
| 07:11.43 | Xinhuan | such as what? |
| 07:11.54 | Arrowmaster | such as R+J and the kael advisors |
| 07:12.05 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 07:12.22 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: .. i thought they didn't , i heard the BW guys complaining bout that. |
| 07:12.49 | Arrowmaster | i havent done them since 2.4 but they used to |
| 07:12.59 | CIA-42 | 03nargiddley 07RC1 * r74628 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-Frame.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: ACE-190: Fix Frame widget restoring its size from status tables incorrectly. |
| 07:13.19 | Xinhuan | so these mobs |
| 07:13.26 | Xinhuan | send UNIT_DIED messages but don't really die? |
| 07:13.31 | Arrowmaster | correct |
| 07:13.37 | Xinhuan | ok that would be a problem |
| 07:13.51 | Xinhuan | give me a moment |
| 07:14.08 | Arrowmaster | which is why i said revert it quickly before anybody grabs it |
| 07:15.11 | Vonhinten | anyone see me typing? |
| 07:15.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:15.52 | Snago | Vonhinten: no, but I see the text you typed |
| 07:15.56 | Vonhinten | motherfucker |
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| 07:16.12 | Xinhuan | ok so i need a separate solutin |
| 07:16.26 | Vonhinten | I have 25 fucking messages in my status window saying #wowace Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel |
| 07:16.37 | Vonhinten | I've been talking all day, and wondering why I'm not getting any fucking response |
| 07:16.41 | Vonhinten | though people ignored me |
| 07:16.43 | Vonhinten | thought |
| 07:16.50 | Snago | lol |
| 07:16.56 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r74629 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Revert last commit first, because it probably breaks Romeo/Juliet and Kael'thas advisors. |
| 07:17.00 | ramoz | rofl |
| 07:17.33 | ramoz | Xinhuan: maybe add a whitelist to the dead-blacklist |
| 07:17.40 | Xinhuan | possibly |
| 07:17.52 | Vonhinten | jesus christ that pisses me off... |
| 07:18.13 | Xinhuan | is there anything that can ressurect itself apart from romeo/juliet |
| 07:18.17 | Xinhuan | and the 4 advisors |
| 07:18.30 | Arrowmaster | i dont really remember what all exactly |
| 07:18.31 | Snago | One of the bosses in the Ring of Blood |
| 07:18.55 | Arrowmaster | it only matters if a UNIT_DIED is sent |
| 07:18.59 | Xinhuan | hmm would be helpful if there is a ressurect message/spell |
| 07:19.03 | Snago | But you might want to confirm that they send UNIT_DIED first |
| 07:19.12 | Xinhuan | anyone has a 2.4 kaelthas log? |
| 07:19.25 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh` might |
| 07:20.25 | Xinhuan | actually my change doesn't necessarily break threat |
| 07:20.38 | Xinhuan | i only blacklisted the part that adds 0 threat |
| 07:20.53 | Xinhuan | not the part that adds any real threat |
| 07:22.14 | Xinhuan | so if something ressurected and you deal damage to it, it would get added despite the blacklist |
| 07:22.32 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r74630 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassBar.lua: |
| 07:22.32 | CIA-42 | AutoBar : |
| 07:22.32 | CIA-42 | -- Actually use the saved ButtonFacade colors. |
| 07:22.47 | Arrowmaster | so would that messup healers? |
| 07:23.01 | Xinhuan | yes it would mess up healers |
| 07:23.09 | Xinhuan | but without the fix healer threat is already messed up |
| 07:23.22 | Xinhuan | because threat is setting the mob's threat to 0, not nil |
| 07:23.28 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 07:23.34 | Xinhuan | via combat log events that hit after the UNIT_DIED |
| 07:23.37 | Xinhuan | race condition and stuff |
| 07:24.04 | Arrowmaster | could fix it with a timer but thats kinda ugly |
| 07:25.53 | Arrowmaster | or even better instead of a blacklist have a list of when the UNIT_DIED was fired and if the current timestamp is within a certain time limit ignore it |
| 07:27.38 | Vonhinten | So anyway, going back through today's log... |
| 07:27.53 | Vonhinten | For Dashkal: [15:25] <Vonhinten> http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:27.59 | Vonhinten | [15:31] <Vonhinten> Dashkal, also check out: http://freshrpms.net/apt/ |
| 07:28.04 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 07:28.15 | Vonhinten | Here's a gem: [16:06] <Vonhinten> ROFL, www.edibleanus.com questionably not safe for work |
| 07:28.33 | Vonhinten | A question: [16:53] <Vonhinten> So, SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 Anyone know if an Ace3 version is planned? |
| 07:28.40 | Arrowmaster | youve been trying to talk for a while havent you |
| 07:28.44 | Vonhinten | yeah, fuck |
| 07:28.53 | vhaarr | Vonhinten: you mean a LibStub version |
| 07:28.58 | Arrowmaster | theres a SpecialEvents-Aura-3.0 |
| 07:29.02 | vhaarr | Vonhinten: SpecialEvents-Aura-3.0 |
| 07:29.03 | vhaarr | right |
| 07:29.28 | Vonhinten | Yeah, is that available? Didn't see it on wowace svn, maybe I wasn't looking closely enough |
| 07:29.46 | Arrowmaster | oh wait it uses Rock |
| 07:29.55 | vhaarr | really |
| 07:29.56 | Snago | Vonhinten: But please don't use it unless you need auras for all units imaginable :P |
| 07:30.03 | Xinhuan | i found a separate solution for now |
| 07:30.08 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r74631 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Nil out threat to dead mobs even if it is 0, rather than only if it is greater than 0. Hopefully fixes lingering threat issues (and avoid calculating healing threat on dead mobs). No blacklist involved. |
| 07:30.16 | Xinhuan | i'll have to recheck the combatlogs to see if there's any race condition |
| 07:30.22 | vhaarr | Vonhinten: I'd really think hard about using it like Snago says. |
| 07:30.23 | Vonhinten | I don't want to use it, but looking at the code in it, seems like buffs are a pain in the ass |
| 07:30.24 | vhaarr | you probably don't need it |
| 07:31.05 | Vonhinten | Anyway... more log... a few responses when folks were talking about a ZA wipe... |
| 07:31.11 | Arrowmaster | keep yelling at blizzard until all buffs/debuffs give combatlog events |
| 07:31.12 | Vonhinten | [20:40] <Vonhinten> I didn't bother posting it here, but I posted a video of my guild doing a bear run, check it out if you want: http://files.filefront.com/ZABearRunFinalavi/;10189230;/fileinfo.html |
| 07:31.18 | Vonhinten | [20:41] <Vonhinten> It was more of a demonstration to my other guildies that run ZA of how we do it, and that you can still get it done with many mistakes and deaths |
| 07:31.23 | Vonhinten | [20:41] <Vonhinten> posted it on the rogue forum.. had some interest discussion... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440946626&sid=1 |
| 07:31.24 | Snago | It's such a waste of CPU for addons that don't even need half of what it provides |
| 07:31.46 | Vonhinten | yeah, I hear ya |
| 07:32.28 | Snago | (like my NinjutFu, I just haven't got around to update it :P) |
| 07:32.53 | Vonhinten | And my last comment before noticing I was silenced: [03:05] <Vonhinten> Just because the language lets you do stupid shit like: local a, b, c = blah or 1, blah and blah or blah, blah or blah and blah; doesn't mean you should... |
| 07:33.57 | Arrowmaster | theres nothing wrong with doing that |
| 07:34.26 | Vonhinten | I knew someone would say that... that's how I figured out I was silenced... I got not predictable responses |
| 07:34.34 | Vonhinten | not=no |
| 07:35.00 | Vonhinten | don't fear the vertical whitespace, it is your friend. |
| 07:35.33 | Snago | yeah, I'd split it up on three lines otherwise it's fine imo |
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| 07:37.05 | Vonhinten | the reason I hate it is because the point at which the = appears looks like an assignment at first glance. it looks like c = blah, when its really a = blah |
| 07:37.49 | Vonhinten | code explicitly... save the multi-assignment for it's (imo) intended purpose... multiple return values |
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| 07:38.38 | Snago | I think local x, y = 10, 20 is ok too, but I see your point |
| 07:40.33 | digmouse | ~seen apoco |
| 07:40.35 | purl | apoco is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 72 messages. Is idling for 5h 53m 22s, last said: 'what?'. |
| 07:41.20 | digmouse | does anyone know what's the meaning of "reject" in RBM? allow or deny? |
| 07:42.14 | Vonhinten | So anyway, about those edible anuses... was talking about it with a guy at work... wouldn't it be great if we bought a box and sent it to someone with a note like "EmployeeA, you're a real asshole - EmployeeB"... |
| 07:42.54 | Vonhinten | or, buy a few boxes, and set em in the kitchen... |
| 07:43.39 | ramoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.41 | purl | i guess ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 07:44.11 | Snago | Better yet, s/asshole/asslicker, eat this!/ |
| 07:44.15 | DARKGuy | "03:12:14][R] [Aureus]: jesus fuckin crhsit...how can you expect us, healers, to heal a fucking comet..moving side to side" lol |
| 07:44.32 | RaydenUni | woot |
| 07:44.38 | RaydenUni | just convinced my guild to take my 68 druid into kara |
| 07:44.51 | Snago | :D |
| 07:44.59 | Vonhinten | that'll be tricky, since you have to be 70 to enter, I thought |
| 07:45.11 | RaydenUni | really? |
| 07:45.13 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 07:45.14 | digmouse | 68 is enough |
| 07:45.14 | Aiiane | nope |
| 07:45.17 | Aiiane | you can take a 68 in |
| 07:45.23 | Vonhinten | hm, didn't know that |
| 07:45.24 | Arrowmaster | you can take a 65 in i think |
| 07:45.24 | RaydenUni | i can't get summoned though |
| 07:45.27 | digmouse | wl summon them in |
| 07:45.56 | digmouse | no attunement need since 2.4, so wls can summon any 68+ ppl in |
| 07:46.14 | Aiiane | plus you could attune at 68 anyways now :) |
| 07:46.33 | Aiiane | since locks can now summon into the tk instances |
| 07:46.47 | digmouse | O_o? really? |
| 07:46.52 | Aiiane | yup. |
| 07:47.02 | digmouse | didnt know that yet heh |
| 07:47.37 | RaydenUni | no lock in the raid :( |
| 07:47.39 | digmouse | but locks still cant do that in ZA |
| 07:49.03 | Vonhinten | probably don't want locks doing some kind of cheaty timed run summoning |
| 07:49.29 | Aiiane | Who knows. It *is* a pain though when we need a replacement on Zul'Jin :P |
| 07:50.08 | Xinhuan | so Arrowmaster, i probably just thought of more cases like Nefarion skeletons ;p |
| 07:50.24 | Xinhuan | and the core ragers |
| 07:50.32 | Xinhuan | golemagg hehe |
| 07:52.26 | Arrowmaster | i have combatlogs of a full MC but i dont think any of the core ragers or whatever got a chance to res |
| 07:56.05 | Arrowmaster | oh thats hot, i completely forgot to check the wws for last weeks raids |
| 07:56.13 | Arrowmaster | 27k dps on gorefiend |
| 08:07.05 | MentalPower | what gets Shown/Hidden first, the Children or the Parents? |
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| 08:11.38 | RaydenUni | 68 druid in kara |
| 08:11.45 | RaydenUni | i beat 4 people in dps |
| 08:11.48 | RaydenUni | the two healers and the two tanks |
| 08:12.07 | [Ammo] | MentalPower: I suspect the parent |
| 08:12.11 | [Ammo] | but that's just a guess |
| 08:12.26 | Elkano | RaydenUni, more fun when you start beating DDs even though you're MT :/ |
| 08:12.51 | Elkano | besides that, 10 druid Kara is fun ^^ |
| 08:13.29 | DARKGuy | Night guys :) |
| 08:14.07 | Aiiane | Elkano, that's what gkicks are for :P |
| 08:14.24 | RaydenUni | DDs? |
| 08:14.32 | RaydenUni | i got my first badge of justice at 68 |
| 08:14.37 | MentalPower | [Ammo]: Children first for both :Show() and :Hide() |
| 08:14.39 | Elkano | Aiiane, was a random farm run |
| 08:15.02 | [Ammo] | MentalPower: ah ok :) |
| 08:15.15 | Aiiane | RaydenUni: Damage Dealers |
| 08:16.42 | RaydenUni | Elkano i do in 5 man pugs sometimes |
| 08:16.52 | RaydenUni | doesn't really count though |
| 08:16.54 | RaydenUni | noobs |
| 08:18.24 | RaydenUni | hah |
| 08:18.26 | RaydenUni | wow just crashed |
| 08:18.38 | NeoTron | what the hell |
| 08:18.49 | NeoTron | so we failed on brutallus. every time it was warrior tank time he died during stop |
| 08:18.57 | NeoTron | last death though is bizarre. numbers don't add up |
| 08:19.05 | NeoTron | it took a lot more healing than he took damage |
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| 08:19.26 | RaydenUni | i'm telling the blizzard bug team about my dps'ing efforts vs attument |
| 08:19.27 | CIA-42 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r74632 10Ace3/changelog.txt: Ace3 - update changelog |
| 08:19.42 | NeoTron | unless the combat log is broken |
| 08:19.53 | NeoTron | or rather out of sync |
| 08:20.04 | NeoTron | so heals I see listed after the tank got hit big registered before |
| 08:20.34 | ikon- | are there any fubar mods that display your current dps? |
| 08:20.42 | NeoTron | he took 5k stom, healed for 8k, then 16k from 2 hits, healed for like 38k, then 12k, healed for 16k at least, then 16k dmg and died |
| 08:20.48 | NeoTron | asn last I checked he had more than 16k health |
| 08:20.54 | CIA-42 | 03nevcairiel * r74633 10Ace3/ (27 files in 6 dirs): |
| 08:20.54 | CIA-42 | Ace3 - (merge 74632) |
| 08:20.54 | CIA-42 | - New DropDown Widget! |
| 08:20.54 | CIA-42 | - New Artwork and style for the TabGroup |
| 08:20.54 | CIA-42 | - for full details, see changelog.txt |
| 08:20.56 | ikon- | fubar_dps doesnt work anymore |
| 08:21.37 | CIA-42 | 03nevcairiel * r74634 10Ace3/changelog.txt: Ace3 - set revision number in changelog properly <.< |
| 08:23.28 | Zhinjio | no way. dropdown widget ? finally |
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| 08:25.11 | [Ammo] | you misunderstand |
| 08:25.57 | RaydenUni | hah |
| 08:26.00 | RaydenUni | my first kara drop gear |
| 08:26.03 | RaydenUni | some green gloves |
| 08:26.11 | Elkano | Zhinjio, DropDown widget, not DewDrop replacement |
| 08:26.33 | nevcairiel | its just a replacement for the old dropdown widget |
| 08:26.38 | nevcairiel | with scrolling! |
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| 08:26.55 | NeoTron | nice |
| 08:27.24 | Silviu- | nevcairiel u failed a little :( http://ace.pastey.net/88149 when typing /ace3 :P |
| 08:27.40 | [Ammo] | need to remove that command |
| 08:27.55 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 08:28.00 | [Ammo] | it's for debugging :p |
| 08:28.03 | [Ammo] | not for users |
| 08:28.08 | nevcairiel | Silviu-: no you fail, restart the game |
| 08:28.15 | Silviu- | Ok |
| 08:28.18 | [Ammo] | that too :) |
| 08:29.00 | Silviu- | Ok i failed |
| 08:29.01 | Silviu- | :) |
| 08:29.07 | NeoTron | well /ace3 is handy |
| 08:29.17 | NeoTron | a unified config UI for ace3 addons isn't bad thing |
| 08:29.20 | [Ammo] | it doesn't reflect anything usefull |
| 08:29.34 | [Ammo] | config UI = blizz config options -> addons |
| 08:29.34 | NeoTron | it's lika niagra for ace3 |
| 08:29.40 | [Ammo] | any addon not adding their stuff there is dumb |
| 08:29.43 | nevcairiel | well, /ace3 is really screwed up if you use Mapster or some other addon that uses the blizz integration properly |
| 08:29.44 | NeoTron | and blizz config options is not optimal |
| 08:29.51 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 08:29.53 | [Ammo] | or WitchHunt :) |
| 08:29.54 | NeoTron | because ppl without BetterBlizzOptions will have a lot of fail |
| 08:30.00 | [Ammo] | no |
| 08:30.02 | [Ammo] | it works fine |
| 08:30.04 | NeoTron | no |
| 08:30.06 | NeoTron | it's too small |
| 08:30.14 | [Ammo] | just that certain authors fail at writing proper option tables for it |
| 08:30.16 | NeoTron | depending on the config ui |
| 08:30.19 | nevcairiel | works fine for Mapster and HotCandy |
| 08:30.20 | [Ammo] | *cough*Antiarc*cough* |
| 08:30.22 | Nargiddley | configs *fit* now, its still crap but they fit |
| 08:30.25 | [Ammo] | works perfect for WitchHunt |
| 08:30.34 | [Ammo] | but one popular addon fails hard, Omen2 |
| 08:30.45 | [Ammo] | which gives the whole thing bad rep |
| 08:30.47 | NeoTron | check magic marker and magic dkp for somewhat more complex ui's than "configure some options" |
| 08:31.13 | nevcairiel | anything that needs a tree inside the blizz config should just not use it =P |
| 08:32.00 | [Ammo] | anyone writing a config should apply brain first, and not expect something to magically fix it for them |
| 08:32.02 | charon | [Ammo]: write a patch? it's not like antiarc will get around to fixing it himself anyway, and you appear to know what to watch out for. |
| 08:32.22 | [Ammo] | charon: I don't use Omen or Threat-2.0, they drag my performance down still and I haven't had time to profile it to find the problem |
| 08:32.42 | [Ammo] | slash my fps down by 80% |
| 08:33.05 | charon | huh |
| 08:33.21 | charon | seriously? |
| 08:33.26 | [Ammo] | I usually have 12-15 fps in raids, but goes down to 1-4 fps with omen/threat |
| 08:33.32 | [Ammo] | thus not playable |
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| 08:33.43 | charon | even with only threat? |
| 08:33.54 | [Ammo] | only threat isn't so bad |
| 08:33.56 | NeoTron | I'm sorry but just because a config ui doesn't fit well in blizzards constrained world doesn't mean it's badly designed |
| 08:33.57 | [Ammo] | but still bad enough |
| 08:34.03 | NeoTron | just means it's not just a few simple options |
| 08:34.15 | [Ammo] | it means the person who wrote it didn't think about it |
| 08:34.30 | [Ammo] | 'lets use a tree to show every zone and mob available' (mobspells) |
| 08:34.31 | [Ammo] | boggle |
| 08:34.57 | [Ammo] | aceconfigdialog is just not meant for certain guis |
| 08:35.20 | NeoTron | aceconfigdialog works great with such uis |
| 08:35.24 | NeoTron | blizzconfigdialog doesn't |
| 08:35.28 | NeoTron | there's a difference there |
| 08:35.32 | nevcairiel | like i said, if you need complex options, just create a standalone config where you have full control of width/height of the window |
| 08:35.35 | nevcairiel | and dont cry :P |
| 08:36.19 | [Ammo] | but the /ace3 command should go, it's not useful anymore |
| 08:36.32 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt dream of adding the full BT4 config to the blizzy configs |
| 08:36.43 | nevcairiel | it just has too many sub-options and dynamic tree options |
| 08:36.58 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I am not, I'm arguing that a standalone config is useful and everything doesn't fit the blizz config |
| 08:37.14 | [Ammo] | most things fit in there |
| 08:37.16 | Vonhinten | Who cares what config screen you use.. just put a button in the blizzard interface to launch your config |
| 08:37.41 | [Ammo] | but the whole blizz config gets a lot of bad rep due to some people not writing proper tables for it |
| 08:37.48 | [Ammo] | and just putting stuff in there 'because they can' |
| 08:38.04 | nevcairiel | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-188 should make integration from ACD better |
| 08:38.09 | nevcairiel | but other then that, its fine |
| 08:38.10 | Zhinjio | Magic Marker is a great example of a well done config in ace3 |
| 08:40.00 | NeoTron | speaking of Magic Marker - one thing I hate in the config ui are the prioritized lists I have |
| 08:40.10 | NeoTron | I'd love a thing where you could add an item and move it up/down |
| 08:40.21 | NeoTron | I can probably do that with some custom widget magic.. maybe |
| 08:40.22 | [Ammo] | write a custom widget to do it |
| 08:41.01 | NeoTron | only drawback is it's ugly to force it into an existing widget (don't get me wrong, I already have weird custom widgets in the config UI that really shouldn't be there :) |
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| 08:48.40 | RaydenUni | shatt sucks for getting xp |
| 08:48.43 | RaydenUni | moroes is only 224xp |
| 08:50.25 | Xinhuan | do you think the Routes config is well done? ;p |
| 08:50.34 | Xinhuan | it has a full featured help file in it now hehe |
| 08:51.44 | Zhinjio | I see that. nice. |
| 08:52.23 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13601 |
| 08:52.25 | Xinhuan | time to try that |
| 08:52.28 | Xinhuan | over rating buster |
| 08:55.03 | Vonhinten | is rating buster a beast or something? |
| 08:55.23 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: could you provide a screenshot? |
| 08:55.34 | Xuerian | Vonhinten: Let's just say, you don't want to stick your head in that oven |
| 08:55.39 | Xinhuan | i haven't downloaded it |
| 08:55.53 | Xinhuan | but it sounds like a good replacement for ratingbuster, which uses like 1 mb |
| 08:55.58 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 08:56.01 | Xinhuan | if you account for statlogiclib that is |
| 08:56.04 | Xinhuan | which uses a lot |
| 08:56.05 | Vonhinten | holy shiat |
| 08:56.07 | Xinhuan | and the UTF8 lib |
| 08:56.21 | Xuerian | Still like ratingbuster for the stats summary, and I don't mind the extra memory usage |
| 08:56.40 | vhaarr | I tried to reduce the memory usage some months ago, I ended up just modifying the option table for RatingBuster |
| 08:56.47 | vhaarr | and THAT reduced the mem size by 200kb |
| 08:57.02 | Kalroth | woo, 200kb memory |
| 08:57.05 | Xinhuan | the stat summary can be easily added by using LibItemBonus-2.0, also a library by Jerry |
| 08:57.30 | Xinhuan | LIB uses about 1/5 the ram and resources that StatlogicLib uses |
| 08:57.35 | Xuerian | Hope it happens then :) |
| 08:58.09 | Kalroth | Why is memory usage a problem? |
| 08:58.31 | Xuerian | Kalroth: It used to be a much bigger problem |
| 08:58.34 | vhaarr | because using lots of memory usually means your code sucks |
| 08:58.39 | Kalroth | huh? |
| 08:58.41 | Xuerian | Before incrimental garbage cleanup was introduced |
| 08:58.42 | Vonhinten | lol |
| 08:58.47 | Xuerian | You'd get UI freezes while crap was cleaned up |
| 08:59.05 | Xuerian | Now, to the user, it doesn't matter all that much |
| 08:59.06 | Kalroth | So an addon with a huge lookup table is sucky coding? |
| 08:59.12 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 08:59.28 | vhaarr | in most cases it is |
| 08:59.29 | Kalroth | So you'd rather that it spent cpu cycles on generating the data everytime? |
| 08:59.39 | vhaarr | it depends on the addon, obviously |
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| 08:59.58 | Xuerian | Kalroth: That's a summary of the eternal addon dev's question of which is more important |
| 09:00.01 | Xuerian | (And where the balance is) |
| 09:00.04 | nevcairiel | static memory usage is so unimportant, i wonder why you even talk about it |
| 09:00.18 | Vonhinten | Anyone happen to have a bunch of BLP's that cover every encoding and alpha type? |
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| 09:00.51 | Kalroth | Xuerian: Not really. Memory used to be important back when the garbage collection was shit and you had limited memory. |
| 09:01.07 | Kalroth | Today it matters very little, it's cpu cycles you'll want to avoid |
| 09:01.16 | Xuerian | Kalroth: That's what I said about 10 lines up |
| 09:01.38 | Vonhinten | There's a lot of people running WoW with limited memory |
| 09:01.41 | Xuerian | Granted I slightly contradicted it, but even the contradiction can be taken either way |
| 09:01.43 | Kalroth | Yes, but then you said that it's a question of which is more important |
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| 09:01.57 | Kalroth | Vonhinten: Well fuck them, memory is cheaper than a liter of milk today |
| 09:01.57 | Xuerian | Kalroth: See Vonhinten's comment, vhaarr's comment |
| 09:02.13 | Kalroth | If people wants to run WoW with 256mb ram, not much I can do |
| 09:02.20 | vhaarr | I'm not saying memory usage matters |
| 09:02.29 | Vonhinten | usually not a matter of WANTING to run like that... |
| 09:02.34 | vhaarr | I'm saying when an addon uses tons of memory, it usually means the author doesn't know what he's doing |
| 09:02.37 | Xuerian | Kalroth: No, but there's no point using extravagant amounts of memory when you could use efficient methods instead |
| 09:03.12 | Kalroth | uh, so using less memory is more efficient? :) |
| 09:03.20 | Kalroth | you're comparing apples with oranges |
| 09:03.31 | vhaarr | I'm not comparing anything |
| 09:03.34 | Vonhinten | It all adds up... if a bunch of addons use sloppy memory management, suddenly a PC could start hitting the page file, where it wouldn't have otherwise |
| 09:03.42 | Xuerian | Kalroth: You're right. Would you like to continue arguing my presentation of the problem, or the problem itself? |
| 09:03.50 | Xuerian | Because if it's the latter, I'm just going to ignore you righ tnow |
| 09:04.01 | Xuerian | Not worth it |
| 09:04.08 | vhaarr | Xuerian: he just wants to win |
| 09:04.12 | Kalroth | I'm just saying there's no problem :) |
| 09:04.15 | Vonhinten | And as we all know, a page file hit costs you big time, in performance |
| 09:04.18 | Xuerian | vhaarr: Yeah, pretty much |
| 09:04.33 | Xinhuan | if there is a better alternative, i don't see why i wouldn't use it ;p |
| 09:04.54 | Kalroth | People measuring the efficiency of an addon by its memory usage are still stick in 1999 in terms of hardware and 2005 in terms of WoW Lua. |
| 09:05.29 | Xuerian | Vonhinten: Agreed, the only point at which wow slows down for me is when I dig into the page file. It wasn't a problem before I got bumped back down to 1gb |
| 09:06.05 | Kalroth | stuck* :( |
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| 09:06.40 | vhaarr | Kalroth: I'm not measuring the efficiency of addons, I'm measuring the authors, and I'm stating that an author who writes an addon that uses lots of memory is probably an idiot |
| 09:06.50 | vhaarr | which means that the addon probably has other problems |
| 09:06.53 | Vonhinten | haha |
| 09:06.54 | Kalroth | I'm stating that you're probably wrong then |
| 09:06.58 | vhaarr | I'm not wrong. |
| 09:07.06 | Vonhinten | an idiot, or lazy |
| 09:07.16 | Kalroth | I'd much rather use 200kb memory in order to cut an update function by 50% |
| 09:07.37 | vhaarr | yeah, now you're just taking topics from mid-air and discussing them again. |
| 09:07.52 | Kalroth | So you're allowed to generalize, but I'm not? :) |
| 09:08.12 | vhaarr | that's right. |
| 09:08.17 | Kalroth | Good to know. |
| 09:08.49 | [Ammo] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVhwwFHGEFI World of WifeCraft |
| 09:09.25 | pschriner | well if someone is in desperate need for memory he might as well spend a litte extra time on selecting his addons. Or just spend 30 bucks on a sh*tload of memory. As memory usage optimization is quite often diametrical to runtime optimization I'm quite happy if an addon finds a good balance between the two, |
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| 09:10.28 | Groktar | wow @ this app |
| 09:10.41 | Groktar | Age: 15 Girl |
| 09:10.48 | Groktar | Reason for applying: |
| 09:10.48 | Groktar | Looking for a rape raiding guild |
| 09:10.54 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:11.13 | [Ammo] | it's the FBI |
| 09:11.19 | Groktar | hehe |
| 09:11.20 | [Ammo] | no girls on the internet remember |
| 09:11.37 | Groktar | the amazing thing |
| 09:11.47 | Groktar | is that i made the application a form |
| 09:11.48 | nevcairiel | men are men, women are men, and little girls are fbi agents :) |
| 09:11.55 | Groktar | and they STILL don't fill it out properly |
| 09:12.16 | Groktar | i made race and class drop down menus |
| 09:12.25 | Groktar | we get human druid apps |
| 09:12.26 | Groktar | :D |
| 09:12.29 | nevcairiel | you care about race? |
| 09:12.36 | Groktar | not really |
| 09:12.54 | Kalroth | Well it's a good way to filter out apps from the other faction |
| 09:12.54 | vhaarr | it's funny to include it though if you get that kind of results |
| 09:13.06 | Groktar | ya, when i made it i was just trying to think of shit |
| 09:13.16 | vhaarr | you can pretty much just say "Sorry, we're full on Human Druids right now. Check back in a year or so." |
| 09:13.17 | Xuerian | [Ammo]: Bahaha |
| 09:13.30 | Kalroth | We've had a dwarf hunter from a PvP realm apply to our horde guild on a PvE realm. |
| 09:13.47 | Groktar | i've applied to horde guilds before |
| 09:14.04 | Groktar | but that's just because i knew them when they were on daggerspine |
| 09:14.39 | [Ammo] | the leeroy at the end is awesome :) |
| 09:14.49 | Kalroth | this dude was a total stranger and what was even worse, his app was serious >< |
| 09:15.33 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pThb0LKbHsU is badass. |
| 09:15.37 | [Ammo] | Groktar: daggerspine EU? |
| 09:15.51 | Groktar | us |
| 09:15.58 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 09:16.32 | Vonhinten | hahaha, ok, world of wifecraft... emailing that one around |
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| 09:20.15 | CIA-42 | 03totalpackage * r74635 10InFlight_Load/ (InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc): |
| 09:20.15 | CIA-42 | InFlight_Load |
| 09:20.15 | CIA-42 | - InFlight_Load will now add new flight point locations for Cartographer_Notes instead of InFlight |
| 09:20.15 | CIA-42 | - updated the defaults with Mudsprocket and Rebel Camp |
| 09:20.15 | CIA-42 | - defaults will replace your current variables |
| 09:20.16 | CIA-42 | - really only check "Gossips" for special flights |
| 09:20.18 | CIA-42 | 03totalpackage * r74636 10InFlight/ (Defaults.lua InFlight.lua InFlight.toc smooth.tga): |
| 09:20.22 | CIA-42 | InFlight: |
| 09:20.24 | CIA-42 | - most stuff is now localized...copy and paste locales from previous versions, please check/update |
| 09:20.26 | CIA-42 | - moved Cartographer_Notes handling to InFlight_Load |
| 09:20.28 | CIA-42 | - now has LibSharedMedia-3.0 border support; note: added dummy entry "Textured" that only InFlight will recognize |
| 09:22.01 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Yeah, but I wouldn't want to get my fingers caught in that >_> |
| 09:22.10 | [Ammo] | wow inflight registers an empty texture just so it can do silly stuff? |
| 09:22.14 | [Ammo] | boggling |
| 09:22.30 | [Ammo] | smed:Register("border", "Textured", "\\Interface\\None") -- dummy border |
| 09:22.33 | [Ammo] | that's stupid |
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| 09:23.24 | Vonhinten | what's it doing with it? |
| 09:23.29 | ennuilg | Is he doing it wrong, [Ammo] ? |
| 09:23.34 | [Ammo] | it's just adding a border that has no texture |
| 09:23.42 | [Ammo] | just so his option table looks good or something |
| 09:23.50 | [Ammo] | aka polluting the lsm registry |
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| 09:27.07 | Arrowmaster | 'that only InFlight will recognize' huh? |
| 09:27.13 | [Ammo] | yeah awesome eh? |
| 09:27.21 | Arrowmaster | how is that even possible |
| 09:27.48 | [Ammo] | it's dumb |
| 09:32.34 | Xinhuan | do you use inflight's addition to cartographer_notes? ;p |
| 09:32.45 | [Ammo] | I use no such thing |
| 09:32.51 | [Ammo] | I just noticed the silly commit message and went to check the code |
| 09:33.14 | Xinhuan | so wait other addons won't see that texture? |
| 09:33.19 | [Ammo] | they will |
| 09:33.33 | [Ammo] | it just won't do a thing because the texture doesn't exist |
| 09:33.38 | [Ammo] | it pollutes the registry |
| 09:33.42 | Xinhuan | oh |
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| 09:38.41 | Xinhuan | i stopped using inflight because i couldn't hide inflight's bar from showing ;p |
| 09:38.49 | Xinhuan | since quartz uses inflight data to show its own flight bar |
| 09:45.11 | Arrowmaster | oh gee i was starting to wonder why i wasnt getting anything from this official torrent for this game |
| 09:45.33 | Arrowmaster | i look in the peers tab and its full of bitcomet users |
| 09:47.29 | Diao | boo |
| 09:48.06 | Diao | Xinhuan if you're online tell your guildie Immersion next time he wants to fight I'll smash his face in on my warrior rather than getting ganked on my lowbie sham :) |
| 09:48.22 | Xinhuan | he's pretty crap |
| 09:48.35 | Xinhuan | by pretty crap i mean he's a recruit and probably won't pass his trial |
| 09:48.38 | Diao | lol |
| 09:48.56 | Diao | he came out of nowhere while I was leveling in terokkar and rooted me in the middle of 3 mobs :( |
| 09:49.04 | Diao | made me take dura |
| 09:49.06 | [Ammo] | awesome |
| 09:49.11 | [Ammo] | I applaud his actions |
| 09:49.31 | [Ammo] | making someone take dura is the best in this game |
| 09:49.36 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 09:49.36 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:49.38 | Diao | lol |
| 09:49.40 | nevcairiel | its funny |
| 09:49.46 | [Ammo] | it's the closest thing to 'real pvp' |
| 09:49.49 | Diao | eh |
| 09:49.51 | Diao | i don't mind if it's real pvp |
| 09:49.57 | [Ammo] | it is real pvp |
| 09:49.59 | Diao | but when you're ganking someone 5-6 levels lower |
| 09:50.00 | [Ammo] | he got you killed |
| 09:50.01 | [Ammo] | outside |
| 09:50.04 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 09:50.05 | Diao | it's pretty dumb |
| 09:50.08 | [Ammo] | it's awesome |
| 09:50.18 | Diao | like when i'm on my warrior i'm fine with people trying to gank me |
| 09:50.22 | Diao | cause most of the time they end up dead ;p |
| 09:50.22 | [Ammo] | you shouldn't have been wearing that red nametag over your head |
| 09:50.37 | [Ammo] | it's like a flag on a bull |
| 09:50.45 | Diao | lol |
| 09:50.55 | Diao | i guess i'm just one of the few people who believe in a fair fight |
| 09:51.16 | [Ammo] | I love running through STV on my warlock and just slapping a CoA on everyone I see |
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| 09:51.21 | [Ammo] | watch them struggle to stay alive |
| 09:51.21 | [Ammo] | and die |
| 09:51.38 | [Ammo] | best part is when they bring their mains :) |
| 09:51.43 | [Ammo] | that's when hell breaks loose |
| 09:51.45 | Diao | i do things like going to stv with my arena buddy (resto druid) |
| 09:51.48 | Diao | and 2v10 |
| 09:51.50 | Diao | against other 70s |
| 09:51.51 | Diao | and winning |
| 09:51.56 | Diao | it's more fun |
| 09:52.01 | Diao | than 1shotting lowbies |
| 09:52.05 | [Ammo] | it's not oneshotting |
| 09:52.10 | [Ammo] | they live for almost the whole CoA duration |
| 09:52.16 | Diao | it is for me :\ |
| 09:52.20 | Diao | if i hit them once with my s3 mace |
| 09:52.28 | Diao | it's instant death for anyone mid 40s or lower |
| 09:52.32 | [Ammo] | another cool thing is go in completely naked |
| 09:52.37 | [Ammo] | and start spanking them with a fishing rod |
| 09:52.46 | Diao | lol |
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| 09:52.55 | Diao | yeah that's fun |
| 09:52.59 | Diao | or punching them while naked |
| 09:53.06 | [Ammo] | still need to fraps another 40 man naked STV cleanout |
| 09:53.15 | Diao | i just find it boring when people gank those who have no chance against them |
| 09:53.16 | Arrowmaster | did you ever see the video of a bunch of naked orc and troll rogues ganking in redridge? |
| 09:53.33 | Diao | it's so much better when you're outnumbered/leveled and still pull off kills |
| 09:54.26 | Diao | like 4-5 days ago when my shaman was still in the 40s, a group of 5 70s ganked me in stv.. so i went out there on my warr with my druid friend and we rocked them multiple times right at the gy so they kept rezzing |
| 09:54.29 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r74637 10AutoBar/libs/: |
| 09:54.29 | CIA-42 | AutoBar : |
| 09:54.29 | CIA-42 | -- One more level into LibKeyBound-1.0 |
| 09:54.47 | anenigma | hmm. some raid mod writes "Cooldowns" in yellow text right in the middle of the screen when I join a raid. any hints on how to identify which mod it is? |
| 09:54.57 | [Ammo] | anenigma: oRA2 |
| 09:55.00 | [Ammo] | alt-drag to move it |
| 09:55.07 | [Ammo] | and rightclick the ora2 button to set options for it |
| 09:55.13 | anenigma | thanks ammo |
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| 09:57.58 | [SW]Dodge | gmorning |
| 09:59.10 | digmouse | morning dodge |
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| 10:13.03 | Groktar | touches himself |
| 10:15.12 | vhaarr | feels that today is a icecream day |
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| 10:23.53 | ramoz | vhaarr: its a bit cold tho =( |
| 10:25.58 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r74638 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0.lua: |
| 10:25.58 | CIA-42 | LibKeyBound-1.0: |
| 10:25.58 | CIA-42 | -- Fix LibStub strings |
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| 10:51.21 | sztanpet | im using pitbull and want to make a module for it, im inheriting the mixin librockevent-1.0 but when i call self:DispatchNamespaceEvent it fails with attempt to call method, a nill value |
| 10:51.22 | sztanpet | what am i doing wrong |
| 10:51.51 | Vonhinten | have you compared your module to other modules to see wha tyou're doing differently |
| 10:52.09 | sztanpet | yea i wrote my module based on other modules |
| 10:52.10 | vhaarr | ramoz: 14c and sunny? I'm wearing shorts :P |
| 10:52.33 | vhaarr | sztanpet: ace.pastey.net, give us your code |
| 10:52.37 | Vonhinten | sz, dunno, might have to show up |
| 10:52.40 | Vonhinten | up=us |
| 10:53.17 | CIA-42 | 03arkayenro * r74639 10ArkInventory/Locale/deDE.lua: |
| 10:53.17 | CIA-42 | ArkInventory: |
| 10:53.17 | CIA-42 | - DE locale fix |
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| 10:53.26 | sztanpet | http://ace.pastey.net/88151 |
| 10:53.48 | Groktar | looks at sztanpet's pastey |
| 10:54.10 | Groktar | thinks he really should learn lua |
| 10:54.24 | sztanpet | hahah that might be it yea |
| 10:54.46 | Vonhinten | sztan, don't use "function self:Blahblah()" |
| 10:54.47 | vhaarr | sztanpet: I'm not sure how you think this should work |
| 10:54.54 | vhaarr | sztanpet: but your code won't work |
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| 10:55.21 | CIA-42 | 03bam * r74640 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 10:55.21 | CIA-42 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 10:55.21 | CIA-42 | - Price updates. |
| 10:55.25 | Vonhinten | you should be using "function Pitbull_oRAMTSteal:OnInitialize()" |
| 10:55.26 | vhaarr | and you're not supposed to trigger oRA_MainTankUpdate |
| 10:55.40 | sztanpet | im triggering it for pitbull |
| 10:55.45 | vhaarr | Vonhinten: I'm not sure what you're talking about but that part is fine |
| 10:55.56 | vhaarr | sztanpet: no, you're triggering it for AceEvent-2.0? |
| 10:56.02 | sztanpet | it listents for that event in ace-events namespace |
| 10:56.07 | vhaarr | sztanpet: what you need to do is register for a Ace2 event called "oRA_MainTankUpdate" |
| 10:56.11 | vhaarr | then update from oRA.maintanktable |
| 10:56.17 | vhaarr | no it doesn't |
| 10:56.26 | vhaarr | where do you register for it? you don't. |
| 10:56.28 | [Ammo] | pitbull already has ora mts |
| 10:56.32 | [Ammo] | why write another module? |
| 10:56.38 | sztanpet | only if you have ora |
| 10:56.40 | Vonhinten | Isn't self a specially value representing the hidden first parameter, like "this" in C++ ? |
| 10:56.49 | vhaarr | Vonhinten: read the code |
| 10:56.54 | vhaarr | Vonhinten: local self = PitBull_oRAMTSteal |
| 10:57.15 | Vonhinten | I see that, but won't you confuse lua doing that, since the first parameter is called self ? |
| 10:57.25 | vhaarr | Vonhinten: no, it won't confuse anything |
| 10:57.30 | vhaarr | sztanpet: oh, so you want to make it work even if you don't have oRA2? |
| 10:57.36 | sztanpet | yea |
| 10:57.38 | sztanpet | line #3259 self:AddEventListener("AceEvent-2.0", "oRA_MainTankUpdate") in pitbull.lua |
| 10:57.38 | vhaarr | aha |
| 10:57.45 | vhaarr | right |
| 10:58.20 | [Ammo] | you could just make an Ace2 addon then that listens to the MT messages from oRA2 over the addon channel, and fires the events |
| 10:58.35 | vhaarr | you shouldn't be using the global oRA and oRA.maintanktable variables though |
| 10:58.37 | vhaarr | just keep a local list |
| 10:58.44 | sztanpet | yea i know, but i wanted to make a module for pitbull, it seemd easier |
| 10:58.46 | [Ammo] | I think it can be done even without the whole framework dealy |
| 10:58.50 | vhaarr | and at the top you should check IsAddOnEnabled"oRA2" and return if it is |
| 10:58.54 | [Ammo] | in approx 15 lines of code |
| 10:59.30 | mikma | vhaarr: boo |
| 10:59.34 | [Ammo] | 1 frame, with onevent for chat-msg-addon, handle it, keep table, and fire the event to pitbull |
| 10:59.35 | vhaarr | runs |
| 10:59.45 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 11:00.10 | mikma | vhaarr: standalone rabbit raidframes plox |
| 11:00.24 | vhaarr | mikma: just comment "layout.lua" in the TOC, zomgl2p |
| 11:00.26 | [Ammo] | mikma: how hard is it to disable the other file in the .toc? |
| 11:00.28 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 11:00.29 | vhaarr | :P |
| 11:02.14 | vhaarr | does the it's-time-for-orange-juice dance |
| 11:02.33 | sztanpet | so anyway why isnt there a DispatchNamespaceEvent :( |
| 11:02.54 | sztanpet | oh well, gonn try what [Ammo] said |
| 11:11.09 | steev | rofl |
| 11:11.14 | steev | i just tanked drek |
| 11:11.33 | steev | (im a rogue) |
| 11:11.38 | steev | without evasion even |
| 11:12.37 | ramoz | vhaarr: ice cold downtown, certainly not 14c |
| 11:13.22 | Groktar | hehe |
| 11:13.23 | steev | but armory is being gay and not showing my data even though im certainly active |
| 11:13.51 | Groktar | i've healed my warlock friend through drek plenty of times |
| 11:13.52 | Groktar | :D |
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| 11:16.42 | steev | 0/21/40 |
| 11:16.46 | steev | i has avoidance |
| 11:19.16 | CIA-42 | 03quezacolt 07Quezacolt * r74641 10Barrier/ (Bars.xml Core.lua): |
| 11:19.16 | CIA-42 | Barrier: |
| 11:19.16 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:19.16 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:21.28 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r74642 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: Send 0 threat for dead targets that are niled out. Previously they were not niled out, so threat was sent anyway. |
| 11:22.45 | Chompers | i've been wondering, why are global variables bad? |
| 11:23.34 | JoshBorke | Chompers: because it can lead to clashes between addons that are hard to diagnose |
| 11:24.03 | Chompers | ah right, are there any performance issues with using them? |
| 11:24.10 | vhaarr | ramoz: I live in kvadraturen, my gnome weather applet says it's 14c! |
| 11:24.40 | vhaarr | Chompers: it's faster to lookup a local variable than a global one |
| 11:24.52 | vhaarr | but no, there's no real performance issue with it |
| 11:24.59 | JoshBorke | Chompers: they say there are, but no one has numbers to back it up. i mean global table lookup wise |
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| 11:26.04 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r74643 10FBagOfHolding/ (4 files): |
| 11:26.04 | CIA-42 | FBagOfHolding: |
| 11:26.04 | CIA-42 | - Fixed problem with displaying items from alts (before it would try to display the item in the same slot ID from the current character rather than from the alt's inventory). |
| 11:28.04 | ramoz | vhaarr: ok ok, doesnt feel that way at all down by sjøhuset |
| 11:28.34 | vhaarr | ramoz: well to be fair my weather applet is configured for kjevik, so it's not accurate for downtown :P |
| 11:28.46 | vhaarr | ramoz: you on a laptop there or do you live there? |
| 11:30.16 | ramoz | i work here |
| 11:30.18 | Flexom | this is gettin scary, 3 people from sørlandet here:p and I agree that it's ice cream weather today vhaarr:) |
| 11:30.27 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 11:30.41 | ramoz | i live on søm |
| 11:30.48 | vhaarr | ramoz: tsk tsk, perhaps me and Flexom should swing by your boss and tattle on your at-work IRC habits, eh?! |
| 11:31.01 | ramoz | ahaah, please do |
| 11:31.05 | Flexom | prefer not to:p @work myself:p |
| 11:31.06 | vhaarr | :P |
| 11:31.32 | ramoz | not much left, 2 months and 10 days 'til im out of this hellhole! |
| 11:31.40 | steev | since this latest server rolling restart, anyone notice that honor isn't quite updating properly? not that it isn't adding it, but it doesn't seem to be rolling over from today/yesterday |
| 11:32.06 | steev | so its currently showing me as getting almost 11k honor today even though i've only been in 3 bgs today |
| 11:41.20 | CIA-42 | 03sayclub * r74644 10Parrot/Locales/ParrotLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 11:41.20 | CIA-42 | Parrot : |
| 11:41.20 | CIA-42 | - koKR Update. |
| 11:45.50 | expiation | Funkeh` [2008/05/21 07:43:09-343-x1]: StatBlocks-1.0\StatBlocks.lua:191: attempt to index field 'block' (a nil value) |
| 11:46.23 | Funkeh` | do you not have more than that |
| 11:47.39 | expiation | nope |
| 11:47.55 | Funkeh` | can't really fix it without a full trace |
| 11:47.57 | expiation | but its sending it so often bugsack paused |
| 11:48.13 | Funkeh` | it's the fault of a block |
| 11:48.57 | expiation | http://acey.pastey.net/88152 heres another one |
| 11:50.29 | Funkeh` | that isn't really helpful either |
| 11:50.43 | Funkeh` | what did you do to replicate this |
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| 11:53.05 | expiation | all that came up when i opened the menu for it |
| 11:53.41 | expiation | you want a list of the blocks im usin? |
| 11:55.06 | Funkeh` | no not really |
| 11:55.17 | Funkeh` | i just botted wow and it worked fine |
| 11:55.23 | Funkeh` | booted |
| 11:55.45 | Funkeh` | i.e. you did something |
| 11:55.57 | Funkeh` | added a new block, updated a block, or something |
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| 11:57.40 | expiation | i added bigwigs and bugsack ones |
| 11:58.07 | Funkeh` | remove bugsack and see if it works |
| 11:58.49 | expiation | k |
| 12:00.15 | expiation | didnt get an error this time |
| 12:04.26 | Vonhinten | goddamn, too many languages frying my brain.. just tried to do const byte[8] BITS = { ... stuff here }; and spent 10 minutes to realize I used C# array declaration |
| 12:06.52 | Vonhinten | I've been writing an ATL shell extension all night... so much old knowledge just gone |
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| 12:10.18 | CIA-42 | 03adirelle * r74645 10Violation/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:10.18 | CIA-42 | Violation: |
| 12:10.18 | CIA-42 | - better handling of pet GUIDs, |
| 12:10.18 | CIA-42 | - fixed typo that prevented some modules to work. |
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| 12:20.43 | CIA-42 | 03schelli * r74646 10FuBar_MoneyDetailFu/: Creating Dir |
| 12:22.45 | CIA-42 | 03schelli * r74647 10FuBar_MoneyDetailFu/ (7 files): FuBar_MoneyDetailFu.toc : uploading first version |
| 12:30.20 | Meril | Hum |
| 12:30.29 | Meril | anyone know something about this mod called quest helper? |
| 12:30.37 | Meril | is it some scam? key logger? |
| 12:30.58 | Meril | I usually only use wowace mods. |
| 12:32.51 | Vonhinten | What makes you think its a key logger or scam? |
| 12:34.05 | QuantumDelta | how can lua addons keylog your password? |
| 12:34.18 | Meril | I dont know, just hear about people geting "hacked" and im thinking its because of mods |
| 12:34.19 | Groktar | hehehe |
| 12:34.28 | Meril | so I never use mods except wowace mods |
| 12:34.28 | Groktar | no |
| 12:34.35 | haste | QuantumDelta: they can't |
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| 12:34.44 | haste | QuantumDelta: unless they use a third party appliaction |
| 12:34.54 | Xinhuan | mods can't get you keylogged. Its visiting websites that installs trojans, or running a .exe file |
| 12:34.57 | QuantumDelta | ...I wasn't asking because I thought they might be able to ;\ |
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| 12:35.15 | haste | I'm telling you they can't, so now you don't have to be uncertain about it :p |
| 12:35.22 | Groktar | or retards that put their account info into thinks like that fake wotlk beta site |
| 12:35.38 | Meril | hah ^^ |
| 12:35.47 | Meril | ok thanks alot |
| 12:36.38 | Vonhinten | where are you downloading this Quest Helper from? |
| 12:39.49 | Groktar | he found a link in one of the "most beautiful girl in the world!" posts |
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| 12:45.55 | QuantumDelta | btw haste the word is sardonic :p |
| 12:46.16 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r74648 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/ (LibKeyBound-1.0.lua lib.xml): |
| 12:46.16 | CIA-42 | LibKeyBound-1.0: |
| 12:46.16 | CIA-42 | -- Mess with CallbackHandler |
| 12:46.24 | haste | *confused* |
| 12:46.28 | QuantumDelta | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sardonic |
| 12:46.42 | QuantumDelta | function of my question |
| 12:46.43 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 12:46.51 | haste | ah |
| 12:47.10 | vhaarr | why would anyone use anything else than dict.org |
| 12:47.35 | haste | first hit on google is that url |
| 12:47.41 | vhaarr | right |
| 12:48.26 | QuantumDelta | true true |
| 12:48.33 | QuantumDelta | <3 that site |
| 12:48.41 | Toadkiller | Question: What is the regular bliz event equivalent of OnEnabled? |
| 12:49.00 | CIA-42 | 03schelli * r74649 10FuBar_MoneyDetailFu/ (4 files): FuBar_MoneyDetailFu.toc : fixed embeds.xml |
| 12:49.45 | vhaarr | we know it's a question, that's what the "?" at the end means |
| 12:49.54 | vhaarr | PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 12:50.22 | Toadkiller | I am trying to pick up bad habbits. |
| 12:50.27 | [Ammo] | or ADDON_LOADED, depending if its LOD or not :) |
| 12:51.51 | Vonhinten | Toadkiller, Feel free to send vhaarr a lovely box of chocolate starfish, direct from www.edibleanus.com |
| 12:53.16 | Zicon | ... oh good lord, it's a real site. |
| 12:54.24 | charon | are there any other debuffs that need to be kept up across several raid members apart from mangle and scorch? |
| 12:54.55 | Tinyboom | suddenly chocolate isn't that tempting.... |
| 12:55.49 | Toadkiller | Ok now lets say its a lib, LibKeyBound and it needs to do some initialing. In keyBound this is done in OnEnabled. Lets say at PLAYER_LOGIN then. Does CallBackHandler let you receive events? I have been trying to register for an event but that just runs into an error because the lib is self. I dont really see how it would ever not be self. So it just bitches at me not to use Library:Registerevent. |
| 12:56.30 | Vonhinten | charon, sunder? |
| 12:56.46 | Toadkiller | Oh man thats freaking hilarious. Wonder if it was sculpted or casted. |
| 12:56.47 | Vonhinten | the debuff from SP's |
| 12:57.11 | Vonhinten | thunderclap |
| 12:57.15 | Vonhinten | demoralizing shout |
| 12:57.29 | Vonhinten | curse of shadow |
| 12:57.38 | Vonhinten | etc |
| 12:57.51 | Vonhinten | faerie fire |
| 12:57.58 | charon | well curses don't really count, do they. usually you just assign someone who does CoS and that's that |
| 12:58.05 | QuantumDelta | elements recklessness, (immolate?), (improved shadow bolt?) |
| 12:58.09 | QuantumDelta | depends on the fight charon |
| 12:58.17 | QuantumDelta | JoW, JoL, JotC |
| 12:58.20 | charon | i'm asking because i made a mangle tracking mod to avoid excess mangles (which really gimps your dps) and someone posted about implementing scorch |
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| 12:58.24 | Snago | Occationally Mind-numbing Poison or Wound Poison |
| 12:58.51 | charon | maybe i should make it generic and let people add their favourite spells |
| 12:58.52 | sica | hm, when we raid with more than one feral druid, only one of them mangles, the other one only shreds |
| 12:59.00 | QuantumDelta | might be useful charon |
| 12:59.18 | QuantumDelta | I certainly wouldn't be able to fit it into my ui but I might make someone use it xD |
| 12:59.34 | Vonhinten | I'm actually the same thing at the moment, only specifically for my rogue |
| 12:59.36 | charon | sica: hmm. does that give better dps than just avoiding mangle if it's already up? |
| 13:00.00 | charon | though i guess one having 2pt6, but not the other(s), might make a difference |
| 13:00.21 | QuantumDelta | it's the same as immolate for destro fire charon |
| 13:00.24 | charon | Vonhinten: what's the verb in that sentence? working on the same thing? using it? |
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| 13:00.38 | sica | charon: the one who mangles uses it only every 12s, and yes, he's wearing 2pt6 :) |
| 13:00.43 | QuantumDelta | if there's a dps increasing debuff that doesn't actually generate enough DPS for yourself to maintain you let one person in the raid maintain it |
| 13:00.52 | Vonhinten | oops, I'm actually writing the same type of thing |
| 13:00.56 | Toadkiller | Whats the deal with powershifting. Does it still work / add dps? |
| 13:01.18 | QuantumDelta | can do Toadkiller |
| 13:01.38 | Vonhinten | Thought, mine is going to have my energy bar, combo points, beneficial buffs, and then raid buffs on my target that are up/down to monitor |
| 13:01.38 | QuantumDelta | after finishers mostly though |
| 13:01.50 | Vonhinten | Thought=though |
| 13:01.55 | Hjalte | What is the addon showing fps etc. in the lower right corner of this screenshot? http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw13343.jpg |
| 13:02.13 | charon | Toadkiller: yes it adds some dps. and not just after finishers... who finishes with FB in a setting that counts, anyway? |
| 13:02.30 | Toadkiller | We had a feral druid with a stupid spec that specifically disabled powershifting. His excuse was it doesnt work anymore. It used to add 400 dps or so though. |
| 13:03.09 | sica | what spec would disable powershifting? |
| 13:03.10 | Vonhinten | some druids just don't like powershifting |
| 13:03.22 | charon | estimates i've seen were more on the order of 200 in t6, but that's still a lot |
| 13:03.23 | Vonhinten | a spec that doesn't include natural shapeshifter |
| 13:03.26 | Toadkiller | not taking the insta rage and getting improved mark instead. |
| 13:03.29 | charon | no, a spec that doesn't include furor. |
| 13:03.52 | sica | O.o |
| 13:04.40 | Toadkiller | Hell, even my resto spec has it. |
| 13:04.40 | charon | Vonhinten: well that's a pity. we could have combined forces there but i really want to keep it a mangle monitor, there are plenty of "own debuff" trackers around |
| 13:04.58 | charon | maybe i'll add a Rip monitor so you can actually see when the other guy's mangle won't last till the end of the rip |
| 13:05.44 | charon | and maybe i'll stop talking about vaporware while i'm ilding around waiting for my advisor. |
| 13:06.21 | charon | Hjalte: i assume fubar+performancefu could be made to look like that given the right texture and font |
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| 13:16.07 | nevcairiel | man how long does it take to format a 1tb partition |
| 13:16.33 | CIA-42 | 03gagorian * r74650 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 13:16.33 | CIA-42 | DrDamage: |
| 13:16.33 | CIA-42 | - Should properly detect shield itemtype in offhand, so shield slam damage isn't set to 0 |
| 13:16.34 | CIA-42 | 037destiny * r74651 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 13:16.34 | CIA-42 | StatLogicLib: |
| 13:16.34 | CIA-42 | - koKR Update, fix spell haste |
| 13:17.25 | Hjalte | charon: I was able to sort something out using statblocks to make it look like it :) |
| 13:18.00 | Vonhinten | nev, I've heard a full format takes like 5 hrs |
| 13:18.16 | nevcairiel | nah that cant be right |
| 13:18.21 | CIA-42 | 03pettigrow * r74652 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: frFR Update |
| 13:18.30 | nevcairiel | its been running maybe 6 minutes and did 10% |
| 13:18.33 | Vonhinten | I'm talking full, not a quick format |
| 13:18.38 | Stanzilla | http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4389/metamb4.jpg < ugly :( |
| 13:18.38 | CIA-42 | 03gagorian * r74653 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 13:18.38 | CIA-42 | DrDamage: |
| 13:18.38 | CIA-42 | - And a small fix to the last commit |
| 13:19.50 | Hjalte | Meh. I had just configured Statblocks like I wanted it and when I logged back in... It was all reset :( |
| 13:21.59 | Hjalte | I'm stupid. |
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| 13:22.44 | Hjalte | Guess what I did? I opened a second instance of wow and logged in, which of course didn't have the changes I had just done to my UI in another instance, which was then logged out. I wonder what settings are there now. |
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| 13:24.30 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: damn, a deep format would take forever. like a day almost |
| 13:25.41 | Zicon | hjalte: I'd think the changes you made are now saved, but they will be overwritten if you reload or logout. |
| 13:26.17 | Toadkiller | Hjalte: force quit the new version so it doesnt save anything imo |
| 13:26.38 | Zicon | Indeed. Just kill the process. |
| 13:27.13 | Hjalte | Unfortunately I had already quit the new version the right way, when finding out what went on. |
| 13:27.30 | Toadkiller | Its what I do every time there is a patch and I once again forgot to load old mods and blizzard wipes their saved vars for some bizarre reason on login. |
| 13:28.53 | nevcairiel | Hjalte: still have the old version running? then quit that, and it will write its SV to the disc |
| 13:29.15 | CIA-42 | 03pettigrow * r74654 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Sunwell/Felmyst.lua): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 13:29.45 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: The old version had been logged out, and then I closed it down, but it didn't seem to have saved anything. I'm redoing it all now :) |
| 13:29.59 | nevcairiel | yeah it saves on logout |
| 13:30.02 | nevcairiel | if you did that before |
| 13:30.08 | nevcairiel | its gone :P |
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| 13:37.32 | Hjalte | I think someone clever with a lot of free time on their hands should write something like a guide to nicely made addons. It could be saying that if you want an addon that does this, you'll need to look for one that doesn't do this and this codewise, also giving examples and such :) |
| 13:38.54 | Vonhinten | Sorry, no time.. too busy writing crappy addons. |
| 13:42.28 | DragonWin | is there a similar command I can use to dump a array to self:Print like the php function var_dump ? |
| 13:42.59 | Vonhinten | I've been using DevTools_Dump() |
| 13:43.13 | Vonhinten | gotta have devtools addon |
| 13:43.28 | DragonWin | devtools addon hmm I'll do a google for that |
| 13:43.31 | DragonWin | thanks Vonhinten |
| 13:43.33 | vhaarr | DragonWin: self:PrintLiteral(object) |
| 13:43.35 | CIA-42 | 03ammo 07RC1 * r74655 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 13:43.35 | CIA-42 | Ace3 - AceAddon-3.0: Experimental |
| 13:43.35 | CIA-42 | Allow for an optional first argument to NewAddon to be a table to be used as the base for the addon. |
| 13:43.35 | CIA-42 | Example: local addon = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon(CreateFrame("Button", nil, UIParent), "MyAddon") |
| 13:43.35 | CIA-42 | or: LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon({}, "Empty Useless Table Addon") |
| 13:43.37 | Vonhinten | apparently ace also has a PrintLiterals or something too |
| 13:43.53 | vhaarr | DragonWin: or in-game /print <variable> accepts anything |
| 13:43.54 | DragonWin | thanks vhaarr I'll look at both :-) |
| 13:43.58 | DragonWin | in game |
| 13:44.00 | vhaarr | you don't need both |
| 13:44.03 | vhaarr | they do the same thing |
| 13:44.05 | DragonWin | ohh |
| 13:44.43 | DragonWin | I'll try self:PrintLiteral(object) first :-) |
| 13:44.48 | DragonWin | thanks you |
| 13:44.50 | DragonWin | -s |
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| 13:48.34 | DragonWin | hmm.. can't find PrintLiteral in the Ace3 package |
| 13:48.43 | [Ammo] | ace3 doesn't have it |
| 13:48.51 | DragonWin | ahh that might explain it then ;-) |
| 13:48.52 | [Ammo] | just use iriels devtools and /dump |
| 13:49.02 | DragonWin | will do thanks |
| 13:49.26 | [Ammo] | or if you have ace2 you can use /dump as well |
| 13:49.59 | DragonWin | hmm seems one of my problems is I can't figure out how to access my table from the command line |
| 13:50.12 | [Ammo] | is it a global var |
| 13:50.19 | DragonWin | local in the file |
| 13:50.21 | [Ammo] | or a member of a global var? |
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| 13:50.46 | DragonWin | so I need to let it be global then I can't do some thing like addonname.tablename |
| 13:50.58 | [Ammo] | euhm no |
| 13:51.05 | vhaarr | AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(...) |
| 13:51.05 | DragonWin | okay |
| 13:51.29 | [Ammo] | if your addon object is a global variable |
| 13:51.34 | [Ammo] | then you can just do: addon.tablename |
| 13:51.52 | [Ammo] | and pass that to the function vhaarr says or put it after /dump or /print |
| 13:51.55 | [Ammo] | in the commandline |
| 13:51.56 | DragonWin | okay thanks will change it to global while I'm messing around like this |
| 13:52.15 | vhaarr | you don't have to do that, you can use what I said in your addon |
| 13:52.21 | [Ammo] | if you have ace2 yeah |
| 13:52.28 | vhaarr | instead of self:PrintLiteral just do AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(...) |
| 13:52.30 | DragonWin | need to grap ace2 then |
| 13:52.43 | DragonWin | okay |
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| 14:00.54 | Pkekyo| | holy hell...I actually got a "Windows has run out of memory"-error o.O' |
| 14:01.14 | Vonhinten | vista? |
| 14:01.33 | Vonhinten | I've had a few of those recently, in Vista |
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| 14:12.05 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r74657 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/ (LibKeyBound-1.0.lua lib.xml): |
| 14:12.05 | CIA-42 | LibKeyBound-1.0.lua : |
| 14:12.05 | CIA-42 | -- Skip the CallbackHandler RegisterEvent bullshit |
| 14:12.05 | CIA-42 | -- Now displays symptoms of working |
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| 14:15.24 | [Ammo] | Toadkiller: CBH doesn't provide blizz events, better off using your own frame indeed |
| 14:16.09 | Toadkiller | Yeha I finally figured that out. I read about how its easily used in ace to do blizz events and kinda zoned out. |
| 14:16.16 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 14:16.23 | [Ammo] | but that's in AceEvent :) |
| 14:16.52 | Toadkiller | Yeah but I am hesitant to make it include AceEvent which is where my troubles then began |
| 14:17.29 | Toadkiller | maybe we need a a BlizzardCallbackHandler ;-p |
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| 14:18.29 | DARKGuy | mornin' :) |
| 14:18.37 | [Ammo] | it's called: local f = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) f:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED") f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) end ) |
| 14:18.43 | [Ammo] | zomg blizzardcallbackhandler |
| 14:19.16 | Toadkiller | Well my question is, are you better off doing that or better off having it centralized in a lib? |
| 14:19.28 | [Ammo] | guess? |
| 14:20.03 | Toadkiller | centralized. Its a lot of useless callbacks u have to ignore |
| 14:20.09 | [Ammo] | no? |
| 14:20.19 | Toadkiller | No idea, thats my guess |
| 14:20.28 | mikma | Toadkiller: so, why does autobar suck? |
| 14:20.39 | Toadkiller | suck in what way? |
| 14:20.45 | [Ammo] | anyway, just use my solution |
| 14:20.49 | Toadkiller | Super fat from all its libs? |
| 14:20.56 | mikma | vhaarr, [Ammo]: it's not hard to disable them but i'd rather have them standalone :D |
| 14:20.58 | [Ammo] | and since you're only registered for ADDON_LOADED shrug |
| 14:21.08 | Toadkiller | Ammo: Thanks, the checked in version has what you recommend |
| 14:21.50 | Toadkiller | I also register for regen enable & disable but yeah its not the end of the world performance wise |
| 14:21.52 | [SW]Dodge | [Ammo]: witchhunt toc tells me that you wrote it, can you have a look at this please? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11951.msg218078#msg218078 |
| 14:22.21 | [Ammo] | what about it? |
| 14:22.46 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 14:22.53 | [Ammo] | WitchHunt embeds the icons in the fontstring |
| 14:23.01 | [SW]Dodge | the first part of alc0res post, he tells that witchhunt shows icons in msbt |
| 14:23.07 | [Ammo] | it does |
| 14:23.08 | [SW]Dodge | ah.. ok |
| 14:23.14 | Dark_Elf | only problem i had with autobar recently is that some of the bars that popup stay open and dont close for a while, but thats nothing to be loose sleep over |
| 14:23.19 | [Ammo] | it embeds them in the fontstring with |T|t |
| 14:23.37 | [SW]Dodge | ok thanks |
| 14:23.50 | [Ammo] | MSBT also has support for a separate icon parameter |
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| 14:24.10 | [Ammo] | that displays the icon next to the message and allows users to block the item in msbt |
| 14:24.14 | Pkekyo| | Vonhintenvista? <--- XP pro |
| 14:24.26 | [Ammo] | but for witchhunt I allow people to put the icon anywhere in the message as well as in multiple places :) |
| 14:24.27 | [SW]Dodge | yes, but he turned the show icon option off in msbt |
| 14:24.42 | Toadkiller | mikma: My personal list of why AutoBar still sucks compared to b4 BC: 1) I need to add shuffling items in combat based on cooldown as well. 2) It has bloated beyond all belief due mainly to libs I think. 3) I have yet to do a proper mount button. |
| 14:24.56 | Pkekyo| | "You seem to have some extreme stress-related tantrums. You don't happen to be Canadian, do you?" |
| 14:24.56 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 14:25.18 | [SW]Dodge | i'll do it too =) its a nice idea |
| 14:25.22 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: Hey did u finally get ButtonFacade? |
| 14:25.32 | DARKGuy | BF ftw! |
| 14:25.36 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: get whatnow? |
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| 14:25.59 | Toadkiller | You know, the skinning solution now that I have kicked cyCircled to the curb? |
| 14:26.08 | Toadkiller | *for AutoBar |
| 14:27.26 | Pkekyo| | why'd you boot CyC? |
| 14:27.50 | Toadkiller | mikma: Oh yes and 4) General laziness in getting around to writing the massive amount of code needed. |
| 14:28.40 | Toadkiller | Well cyCircled skins are real nice. cyCircled the application is a piece of crap that has cause me endless hassless and wasted an enormous amount of my personal time. I resent the hell out of it. |
| 14:28.57 | Pkekyo| | :/ |
| 14:29.03 | Pkekyo| | but the skin is so sexy! :p |
| 14:29.21 | Toadkiller | Dont be noob, use WAU to install ButoonFacade |
| 14:29.32 | Dark_Elf | and it hasnt been updated in long time :p |
| 14:29.40 | Pkekyo| | but why so sex?!?! |
| 14:30.07 | Toadkiller | ButtonFacade skins are already nicer than cyCircled skins can ever be |
| 14:30.15 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: does BF have the Vox skin? |
| 14:30.47 | Dark_Elf | wonders if buttonfacade could be put on quartz bars lol |
| 14:30.58 | DARKGuy | Toadkiller: on that I agree, I changed Vol by Entropy:Iron ^^ |
| 14:31.16 | DARKGuy | Dark_Elf: wtf? |
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| 14:31.33 | Dark_Elf | skin the bars im just kidding! |
| 14:32.26 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13279.85 |
| 14:34.19 | Toadkiller | As far as I can tell BF is for buttons. It would need to be extended or rewritten if it has to skin other UI elements. Skinner already does that doesn't it? |
| 14:34.37 | [Ammo] | don't mention that name |
| 14:34.44 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 14:35.01 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: does BF also skin my bartender? |
| 14:35.09 | Pkekyo| | if so, I'm jumping on zeh bandwagon |
| 14:35.10 | Pkekyo| | I guess |
| 14:35.14 | Toadkiller | There used to be a kool skinning thing I used back with AutoBar's custom config UI |
| 14:35.15 | [Ammo] | BT4 has buttonfacade support |
| 14:35.17 | Pkekyo| | your default autobar skin isn't all too sexy :p |
| 14:35.31 | Pkekyo| | [Ammo]: do I have BT4? :/ |
| 14:35.38 | [Ammo] | yeah I do |
| 14:35.56 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: Since you are lazy I doubt you have BT4 with built in BF support. There may be a plugin to cram in BF support in BT3 |
| 14:36.02 | Pkekyo| | :P |
| 14:36.23 | Pkekyo| | haven't really played since february, and I reckon BF is new? |
| 14:36.57 | Toadkiller | Haha yeah, I only heard about it a month and a bit ago. Its been in AutoBar for 3 weeks now. |
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| 14:38.14 | Toadkiller | The other reason I like it is because the very first lib I proposed after moving to wowace was a skinning lib. Some noob shot it down for totally retarded reasons. I didn't know any better so I suffered with cyCirlced ever since |
| 14:42.12 | p3lim | holy fucking hell |
| 14:42.26 | p3lim | fury warriors with a twohander in mh + a shield |
| 14:42.27 | p3lim | gg |
| 14:42.44 | Xinhuan | Toadkiller, who wrote the original Autobar back in like wow v1.1 |
| 14:42.47 | p3lim | talents from WotLK is sick |
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| 14:43.54 | Pkekyo| | err...I've got like...a million libraries...do I really need'em? :p |
| 14:44.17 | digmouse | u use WAU without external mode? |
| 14:44.59 | Pkekyo| | aye...but like...I've had the same libs the last 10 years or so |
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| 14:45.42 | Xinhuan | you could screenshot your addon list |
| 14:45.48 | Xinhuan | and people in here would scrutinize it ;p |
| 14:45.55 | p3lim | warlocks gets imba buffed too :/ |
| 14:46.16 | Xinhuan | i don't believe those talents are real |
| 14:46.34 | Xinhuan | even if they are they would be nerfed before beta lol |
| 14:46.40 | nevcairiel | the talent spells themself are in the game files |
| 14:46.48 | nevcairiel | not sure if you can get the tree positions out there |
| 14:47.15 | Xinhuan | they could be NPC spells |
| 14:47.23 | Xinhuan | friendly NPCs |
| 14:47.27 | Stanzilla | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/talentlist.php < ? |
| 14:47.38 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: not if they're 'talent spells' |
| 14:47.48 | [Ammo] | which mention the 2/4/6% etc |
| 14:48.08 | Xinhuan | i suppose so, and if its that OP, it'll prob be changed to 1/2/3 lol! |
| 14:48.23 | nevcairiel | at the moment, all talents seem OP |
| 14:48.27 | nevcairiel | but if all are OP |
| 14:48.29 | nevcairiel | none are |
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| 14:48.30 | nevcairiel | right? |
| 14:48.35 | Xinhuan | they might scale STAMINA gear up again like in TBC? |
| 14:48.43 | Xinhuan | if that happens then those talents won't be OP |
| 14:48.54 | Hjalte | Pkekyo|: jWU will clean out unneeded libraries ;) |
| 14:48.59 | nevcairiel | i dont think that they will rescale stamina |
| 14:49.13 | DARKGuy | Hjalte: how? :O |
| 14:49.17 | Hjalte | They've said they will not rescale stamina |
| 14:49.27 | nevcairiel | of course new items will include more stamina |
| 14:49.34 | nevcairiel | but not a sudden boost from before BC |
| 14:49.51 | Hjalte | DARKGuy: How jWU does it? If no addon needs an addon, it'll just delete it. |
| 14:49.53 | nevcairiel | my guess is 50% more sta for everyone at same gear level on 80 |
| 14:50.02 | nevcairiel | classic -> BC was like 100% |
| 14:50.18 | DARKGuy | Hjalte: is that shown in the log? I don't recall jWU do that in all the time I've been using it |
| 14:50.54 | Stanzilla | http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5028/demonwl8.jpg < that looks awesome |
| 14:50.58 | Hjalte | DARKGuy: It doesn't show, but it does. At least if it's aware of all your ace addons etc. like it is on me. |
| 14:51.23 | nevcairiel | i am so happy that i got a warlock Stanzilla :D |
| 14:51.25 | DARKGuy | Stanzilla: lol |
| 14:51.29 | Stanzilla | :P |
| 14:51.40 | DARKGuy | that sure isn't retail, I hope o_o |
| 14:51.51 | Kalroth | of course not |
| 14:51.54 | Kalroth | don't be dumb :) |
| 14:51.55 | DARKGuy | Hjalte: hm, I might watch it more closely o.o |
| 14:51.56 | Stanzilla | it's not |
| 14:51.57 | DARKGuy | : |
| 14:51.57 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 14:52.10 | Stanzilla | I'm leveling my mage atm..the new mage talents are awesome, too |
| 14:52.17 | DARKGuy | a potion to transform you into something like that would be the shiz |
| 14:52.37 | nevcairiel | supposedly a talent in warlock tree |
| 14:52.39 | Stanzilla | DARKGuy: that's the 51point warlock talent |
| 14:52.48 | Stanzilla | see http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4389/metamb4.jpg |
| 14:53.06 | nevcairiel | melee warlock? :D |
| 14:53.25 | DARKGuy | omg :D |
| 14:53.35 | Stanzilla | mini-iceblock imo |
| 14:53.40 | Stanzilla | fun in arena |
| 14:55.00 | Xinhuan | that new ace3 dropdown widget is pretty awesome |
| 14:55.02 | Xinhuan | who wrote it |
| 14:55.10 | [Ammo] | Borlox |
| 14:55.12 | Stanzilla | Borlox |
| 14:55.18 | Xinhuan | who is he ;p |
| 14:55.31 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: scrutinize away: http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7734/addonsfolderfg5.jpg |
| 14:55.42 | nevcairiel | he has been around on forums for ever, dont remember seeing him here |
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| 14:55.52 | Xinhuan | o_O hw many folders is that |
| 14:55.58 | nevcairiel | PT-3.1 and -3.0? |
| 14:56.02 | [Ammo] | wow, that's a lot |
| 14:56.06 | [Ammo] | babble 2 and 3 |
| 14:56.14 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: 310 folders |
| 14:56.25 | Xinhuan | ok lets clean that up a bit |
| 14:56.28 | Snago | SEA-2 and 3 |
| 14:56.29 | Pkekyo| | am I doing something wrong? :p |
| 14:56.34 | Xinhuan | 1. Do you still use Cartographer? |
| 14:56.37 | Pkekyo| | yes |
| 14:56.41 | Xinhuan | What features do u use in it |
| 14:56.59 | Pkekyo| | map features? |
| 14:57.03 | Xinhuan | which ones? |
| 14:57.27 | Pkekyo| | good question :p |
| 14:57.28 | Industrial | grassssnomnomnom |
| 14:57.36 | Xinhuan | i see u have _Stats, _Trainers _ZoneInfo, _Cleanup and like a few million otherthings |
| 14:57.38 | Pkekyo| | the gathering stuff, mailboxes, battlegrounds |
| 14:57.39 | Xinhuan | do u actually use them? |
| 14:57.40 | Pkekyo| | stats is awesome |
| 14:57.42 | Pkekyo| | trainers too |
| 14:57.59 | Pkekyo| | yeah, I use them actively |
| 14:57.59 | Xinhuan | because if you don't i could recommend replacements ;p |
| 14:58.13 | Xinhuan | what do you use in auldlangsyne? |
| 14:58.23 | Pkekyo| | note function, if memory serves |
| 14:58.31 | Pkekyo| | (that's what it's for, right?) |
| 14:58.34 | Xinhuan | do you really need it? |
| 14:58.40 | Xinhuan | default blizzard ui has friend notes |
| 14:58.53 | Pkekyo| | it does? since when? |
| 14:58.58 | Xinhuan | since 2.3 |
| 14:59.03 | Xinhuan | but only friend notes |
| 14:59.08 | Xinhuan | not ignore notes, not guild notes |
| 14:59.14 | Pkekyo| | I need guildnotes and ignorenotes too |
| 14:59.21 | Pkekyo| | well, not ignore, but guildnotes |
| 14:59.23 | Xinhuan | for another start, delete Parser-3.0 |
| 14:59.27 | Xinhuan | and libparser 4.0 |
| 14:59.29 | CIA-42 | 03kurax * r74658 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (6 files): |
| 14:59.29 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 14:59.29 | CIA-42 | - Add a check to locale files to avoid errors |
| 14:59.35 | Pkekyo| | done |
| 14:59.38 | CIA-42 | 03kurax * r74659 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/ (6 files): |
| 14:59.38 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot_Crafting: |
| 14:59.38 | CIA-42 | - Add a check to locale files to avoid errors |
| 14:59.44 | CIA-42 | 03kurax * r74660 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/ (6 files): |
| 14:59.44 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 14:59.44 | CIA-42 | - Add a check to locale files to avoid errors |
| 14:59.44 | Xinhuan | and you have like 25 pitbull folders or something |
| 14:59.48 | CIA-42 | 03kurax * r74661 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/ (6 files): |
| 14:59.48 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 14:59.49 | CIA-42 | - Add a check to locale files to avoid errors |
| 14:59.56 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: Saien wrote the original then /ragequit wow. Various people hacked around a few versions. I needed it to work so I took it over with his permission. |
| 15:00.06 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 15:00.15 | nevcairiel | i generally dont unpack addons like that, because i load most of the features anyway =P |
| 15:00.20 | nevcairiel | just clutters my addon dir |
| 15:00.21 | CIA-42 | 03kurax * r74662 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (12 files): |
| 15:00.21 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 15:00.21 | CIA-42 | - Add a check to locale files to avoid errors |
| 15:00.25 | CIA-42 | 03kurax * r74663 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (24 files): |
| 15:00.25 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 15:00.25 | CIA-42 | - Add a check to locale files to avoid errors |
| 15:00.26 | Xinhuan | what's Fizzle do? |
| 15:00.30 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: yeah, they came with pitbull...no idea what they do :p |
| 15:00.43 | Pkekyo| | fizzle shows durability in the character frame |
| 15:00.52 | Pkekyo| | (on each item) |
| 15:00.56 | Xinhuan | isn't duraFu enough? |
| 15:01.07 | Xinhuan | keep one or the other perhaps |
| 15:01.17 | Gagorian | I like having both |
| 15:01.19 | nevcairiel | doesnt the char frame show durability without addons? o.O |
| 15:01.25 | Xinhuan | nope nev |
| 15:01.28 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 15:01.34 | nevcairiel | i'm sure it does |
| 15:01.38 | Xinhuan | what's Sheep Throttle do |
| 15:01.39 | nevcairiel | or some addon i use does :D |
| 15:01.40 | Xinhuan | it doesn't nev |
| 15:01.42 | Gagorian | Fizzle also colors the borders of items based on quality |
| 15:01.47 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: maybe in mouseover tooltips |
| 15:01.56 | nevcairiel | yeah in tooltips, where else? |
| 15:02.00 | Stanzilla | delete DogTag-1.0 imo |
| 15:02.02 | Gagorian | On the items |
| 15:02.08 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: it stops my sheep macro from spamming my arse off (allows the text only like...every 5 sec or so on the same target) |
| 15:02.11 | nevcairiel | man thats useless |
| 15:02.13 | Gagorian | the icons themselves |
| 15:02.24 | PsG-1 | Question: if I pass a table to a function in LUA, does it pass by reference by default? |
| 15:02.24 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: you use SmoothDurability? :) |
| 15:02.36 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: nah i still use DuraTek |
| 15:02.39 | Xinhuan | i don't know, your addon list looks cluttered, i'll suggest you go thru the list one by one and see if you really need that addon |
| 15:02.39 | [Ammo] | ah yeah |
| 15:02.52 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: I'm more worried about the amount of libs tbh |
| 15:03.05 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: why delete DogTags? |
| 15:03.17 | Xinhuan | here's what you do, delete the addons you don't use, then go in game and login |
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| 15:03.23 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: pitbull and the other rock addons use version 3 |
| 15:03.26 | Xinhuan | find out which libs aren't loaded |
| 15:03.26 | Stanzilla | old addons use 2 |
| 15:03.29 | Stanzilla | you have 1 O.o |
| 15:03.37 | Pkekyo| | so...I should upgrade? :/ |
| 15:03.39 | Xinhuan | by using a utility like OptionHouse or MCPFu |
| 15:03.46 | Zhinjio | can a frame's size be changed on the fly? Or does that break things badly? |
| 15:04.02 | Xinhuan | you have lots of duplicated versions of libs Pkekyo| |
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| 15:04.04 | Zhinjio | nm... I've seen addons that change the size. |
| 15:04.14 | Xinhuan | like DogTag-1.0 and LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 15:04.18 | Xinhuan | clearly one is no longer in use |
| 15:04.27 | Stanzilla | both are not imo |
| 15:04.33 | Pkekyo| | DogTag-1.0 gone |
| 15:04.35 | Stanzilla | Prat => Chatter btw |
| 15:04.44 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: wut |
| 15:04.59 | Stanzilla | delete Prat, install Chatter :P |
| 15:05.01 | shieldb | Pkekyo|: if you're using WAU just delete every lib, then do an update with download external dependencies turned on |
| 15:05.07 | shieldb | then hit the output tab |
| 15:05.13 | shieldb | and it will list every dependency that it creates, i.e. Omen -> Threat-2.0 |
| 15:05.13 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest you install OptionHouse |
| 15:05.19 | shieldb | so you can see if you have old crap hanging out that you don't use for some reason |
| 15:05.28 | Xinhuan | and login and see which addons aren't loaded with OptionHouse |
| 15:05.50 | Xinhuan | or go with shield's approach ;p |
| 15:05.58 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: why? |
| 15:06.08 | Xinhuan | Prat is highly CPU inefficient |
| 15:06.12 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: RegisterAllEvents |
| 15:06.16 | Xinhuan | it is 1 of 2 addons i know that uses :RegisterAllEvents() |
| 15:06.17 | Stanzilla | nuff said :P |
| 15:06.21 | Xinhuan | parsing every event in thegame |
| 15:06.35 | Toadkiller | Just do Shield's colonic for your mods and be done with it. |
| 15:06.35 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: .... |
| 15:06.37 | Pkekyo| | WUT |
| 15:06.43 | Xinhuan | you didn't know? heh |
| 15:06.47 | Gagorian | Xinhuan: What is the other? :D |
| 15:06.58 | Xinhuan | the author of the other one got rid of it ;p |
| 15:07.01 | Xinhuan | so its really just Prat now |
| 15:07.09 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar refuses to change it in Prat |
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| 15:07.25 | Dark_Elf | i was looking at aloft yesterday and it had babblespell, babble boss 2.2 and 3.0 both in its libs, , i was thinking mercy 4 libraries doing pretty much the same thing! |
| 15:07.31 | Xinhuan | he parses all events so he can pass on the events to prat modules that need it |
| 15:07.35 | Pkekyo| | should I delete all my babble folders? |
| 15:07.45 | Xinhuan | i.e its like he's doing his own event handler within prat, while using ace2 |
| 15:07.53 | Xinhuan | nope, you have addons that use babble |
| 15:07.54 | Gagorian | some addons still use the 2.2 babblelibs |
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| 15:07.59 | Xinhuan | such as bigwigs and cartographer |
| 15:08.14 | Xinhuan | some are deprecated like zone-2.2 |
| 15:08.19 | Xinhuan | since zone-3.0 exists |
| 15:08.25 | Pkekyo| | PT-3.0? |
| 15:08.27 | Toadkiller | cart coughs up its lungs each time i mouseover a node or flower |
| 15:08.32 | Xinhuan | no addon should be using 3.0 |
| 15:08.36 | Xinhuan | all should beusing 3.1 |
| 15:08.42 | Pkekyo| | so 3.0 goes? |
| 15:08.44 | Xinhuan | 3.0 doesn't even exist on the SVN now |
| 15:08.45 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 15:09.03 | Aeyan | I still wonder why Cart uses Ace2 and Rock, even after the Great Rock Conversion |
| 15:09.15 | Stanzilla | Aeyan: because ckknight never finished it |
| 15:09.16 | Xinhuan | because many cart modules still use ace2 |
| 15:09.30 | Xinhuan | by cart modules, i mean the ones that aren't part of the cart core |
| 15:09.37 | Xinhuan | such as Cart_trainers, _vendors, _Stats |
| 15:09.41 | durcyn | Pkekyo|: also, get rid of Violation_CombatLogRange, Soar-1.0, Metrognome, RollCall-1.0. Consider replacing ColaLight with ItemPrice or Valuation |
| 15:09.51 | Stanzilla | even some of the core addon still use it Xinhuan |
| 15:09.54 | Toadkiller | Yes all the crap modules that dont actually work anymore... |
| 15:09.54 | Stanzilla | afaik |
| 15:09.56 | Aeyan | Yeah, they do |
| 15:09.57 | Stanzilla | *s |
| 15:09.58 | Xinhuan | you have an addon called PlayerNotes |
| 15:10.00 | durcyn | and isn't ArkInventory still kind of garbage? |
| 15:10.08 | Xinhuan | isn't that redundant with AuldLangSyne? |
| 15:10.17 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=evl@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 15:10.23 | Vulcanus | durcyn: yes it is |
| 15:10.27 | [Ammo] | ArkInventory made me retch after reading the code to support it in moneytrail |
| 15:10.38 | Xinhuan | you can get rid of TouristLib |
| 15:10.39 | Vulcanus | but Ive grown accustomed to the layout of it |
| 15:10.42 | [Ammo] | seriously shit coding |
| 15:10.45 | Xinhuan | as there is LibTourist-3.0 |
| 15:11.02 | Xinhuan | some addons might still use TouristLib, if it does, just redownload it ;p |
| 15:11.16 | durcyn | Pkekyo|: you've got Cart AND GuildMap? |
| 15:11.18 | Xinhuan | GuildMap isn't recommended anymore |
| 15:11.29 | Xinhuan | in fact it doesn't even work with Cart_GuildPositions |
| 15:11.38 | Pkekyo| | I'm just gonna go ahead and delete everything with 'Lib' in the name... |
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| 15:11.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 15:11.50 | Pkekyo| | durcyn: well...yeah... |
| 15:11.53 | Vulcanus | You people should offer some form of "addon advice" service, yknow like alternatives and such |
| 15:12.01 | Pkekyo| | x) |
| 15:12.06 | Xinhuan | there's lots of libs that doesn't have Lib in its name ;p |
| 15:12.09 | Xinhuan | or has lib in the suffix |
| 15:12.21 | Pkekyo| | down from 310 folders to 231 'yay' |
| 15:12.53 | Vulcanus | 350 folders for me, I run disembedded libs tho |
| 15:12.55 | Pkekyo| | what does CandyBar do? :/ |
| 15:12.55 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 15:12.59 | Xinhuan | you can probably delete ForeverAFK |
| 15:13.02 | Xinhuan | doesn't work anymore |
| 15:13.05 | Aeyan | Creates bars |
| 15:13.13 | Pkekyo| | Aeyan: care to elaborate? |
| 15:13.14 | Xinhuan | creates bars in bigwigs |
| 15:13.21 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 15:13.23 | Vulcanus | if only there was a serios replacement for PartyQuests, one with an UI that creates checkboxes for tracking quests. Then I could get rid of cosmos :p |
| 15:13.46 | Xinhuan | ChatTrottleLib get rid of it too |
| 15:13.52 | Xinhuan | its inside Ace2 itself now |
| 15:13.57 | Xinhuan | and Ace3 |
| 15:14.12 | durcyn | Pkekyo|: SimpleCombatLog? buhh.. |
| 15:14.19 | Pkekyo| | durcyn: wut? :< |
| 15:14.25 | nevcairiel | does SCL even work anymore? |
| 15:14.31 | Vulcanus | it has no function really |
| 15:14.33 | durcyn | not since 2.4 |
| 15:14.34 | Aeyan | No, it doesn't |
| 15:14.36 | Pkekyo| | I wouldn't know; haven't played since feb |
| 15:14.45 | Xinhuan | i also not sure why you have One-Series installed along with ArkInventory |
| 15:14.51 | Xinhuan | use one or the other |
| 15:15.01 | Vulcanus | he probs disabled it in the addon config |
| 15:15.03 | Gagorian | As long as it's not ArkInventory *Cough* |
| 15:15.16 | Vulcanus | I do the same, just so I can swap between them on the fly (well with a reloadui, but meh) |
| 15:15.17 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: I disabled ArkInventory... |
| 15:15.23 | Xinhuan | ChatLog? ClassTimer? |
| 15:15.30 | Vulcanus | classtimer ftw ;p |
| 15:15.30 | Xinhuan | CooldownTimers2? |
| 15:15.36 | nevcairiel | man moving 500gb of data from my old to my new drive is slow :( |
| 15:15.39 | Xinhuan | cdt2 uses candybar too |
| 15:15.41 | Pkekyo| | classtimer is awesome...as is CDT |
| 15:15.49 | Xinhuan | GravBlox? |
| 15:15.57 | Pkekyo| | for waiting in raids :) |
| 15:16.00 | Xinhuan | delete GuildMap anyway, it only works with other users of GuildMap |
| 15:16.01 | Pkekyo| | in-game tetris :D |
| 15:16.04 | Gagorian | What's a good DoT/HoT tracking addon that's up to date? |
| 15:16.06 | Pkekyo| | allready did, Xinhuan |
| 15:16.10 | Xinhuan | HatTrick? |
| 15:16.16 | Xinhuan | IgnoreMore? |
| 15:16.16 | Pkekyo| | yes |
| 15:16.21 | Pkekyo| | definitely needed |
| 15:16.22 | Hjalte | Gagorian: I like DotDotDot |
| 15:16.24 | shieldb | IgnoreMore is awesome |
| 15:16.24 | nevcairiel | HaTrick is useful! |
| 15:16.25 | durcyn | HatTrick toggles helm/cloak display on character frame, it's safe |
| 15:16.28 | Pkekyo| | my ignorelist's as long as my cock |
| 15:16.33 | Kalman| | Hjalte: :D |
| 15:16.33 | Pkekyo| | wait, that came out wrong |
| 15:16.37 | nevcairiel | hatrick is also so damn simple |
| 15:16.39 | Vulcanus | so what 5 people? |
| 15:16.46 | Xinhuan | delete ParserLib, Parser-3.0 and LibParser-4.0 |
| 15:16.49 | Aeyan | Gagorian: I haven't found the new shiny, yet |
| 15:16.54 | Ackis | Pkekyo: if it's that long, why do you need a mod for it? |
| 15:17.01 | Xinhuan | what's ManaPerc do |
| 15:17.04 | Pkekyo| | Ackis: for my cock or ignorelist? :p |
| 15:17.10 | Ackis | lol |
| 15:17.16 | Pkekyo| | Ackis: IgnoreMore = able to ignore more dongjobs |
| 15:17.23 | Xinhuan | you can delete SimpleCombatLog too |
| 15:17.23 | nevcairiel | i usually remove people from my ignorelist after a month or so |
| 15:17.27 | Ackis | I know I used to use it |
| 15:17.31 | Xinhuan | that hasn't been updated |
| 15:17.31 | nevcairiel | they dont write me anymore then, anyway |
| 15:17.32 | Kalman| | Gagorian: DDD is dots-only, though. I use it in combination with HotCandy. If you try out DDD, let me know if you have comments/suggestions. |
| 15:17.45 | Xinhuan | if you want, you can download HitsMode from wowi, its the 2.4 combatlog replacement |
| 15:17.54 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: I use it to identify tools...if I can't see what they're saying, I'm not playing with'em :p |
| 15:18.14 | Gagorian | Kalman|: Hmm, alright. I will have to combine it with a cooldown addon too, as currently DoTimer monitors them. |
| 15:18.21 | Pkekyo| | 219 folders |
| 15:18.28 | Xinhuan | you might consider replacing EQCompare with.. say Mirror or tekKompare |
| 15:18.32 | Toadkiller | I stopped ignoring people. Saves a mod right there. |
| 15:18.40 | Kalman| | I've been using Hourglass for that. Not planning to integrate cooldowns, I'd like to keep DDD focused. |
| 15:19.17 | Xinhuan | i think RollCall-1.0 is gone too, ppl use LibRollcall-2.0 now |
| 15:19.41 | CIA-42 | 03jjsheets * r74664 10ButtonFacade/ButtonFacade.lua: |
| 15:19.41 | CIA-42 | ButtonFacade: |
| 15:19.41 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.46 | durcyn | even if not, it should have a backwards compat layer |
| 15:19.53 | Vulcanus | Xinhuan: But what if mods still use the old things? Won't that start spewing errors? ;p |
| 15:19.59 | dodga | Hm, I can't create a new tracker in BetterQuest :\ |
| 15:20.00 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 15:20.01 | shieldb | Pkekyo|: you can kill Violation_CombatLogRange if someone hasn't mentioned that, the log range defaults to everything visible in 2.4 |
| 15:20.05 | Xinhuan | but WAU would just redownload it |
| 15:20.18 | durcyn | shieldb: not just that, but the CVars don't even exist anymore, so it's 100% pointless |
| 15:20.20 | Gagorian | HourGlass doesn't seem to use the new API to get cooldowns easily |
| 15:20.22 | Pkekyo| | http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1378/addonsfolderex4.jpg <--- current addon folder |
| 15:20.27 | Gagorian | It uses gratuity to scan the tooltips |
| 15:20.42 | Vulcanus | threat-1.0? |
| 15:20.51 | Kalman| | There's a new API for cooldown checking? |
| 15:20.53 | Xinhuan | if you want Pkekyo|, you shouldkill Cart_herb/Mine/routes/professions and instead get GatherMate and Routes |
| 15:20.53 | Pkekyo| | jes? :< |
| 15:20.58 | kenlyric | SOFIXIT |
| 15:20.59 | Vulcanus | 2.0...? :p |
| 15:21.08 | Gagorian | Kalman|: GetSpellInfo returns it I think |
| 15:21.15 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: benefits are exactly what? |
| 15:21.22 | Xinhuan | i guarantee you GatherMate uses 1/3 the ram of cart_<profs> and 1/2 the CPU |
| 15:21.22 | nevcairiel | its bettaarr! |
| 15:21.30 | Xinhuan | Routes has taboo regions and node collapsing |
| 15:21.36 | Xinhuan | and generates routes 30% faster |
| 15:21.38 | nevcairiel | also, the Carto versions are no longer maintained |
| 15:21.44 | Ackis | Xinhuan, are you going to write a QuestHelper mod? :P |
| 15:21.48 | Xinhuan | no |
| 15:21.51 | durcyn | Gagorian: it does? |
| 15:21.55 | Gagorian | No wait, not GetSpellInfo. What was it... *checks* |
| 15:21.58 | Ackis | pfft casual! |
| 15:21.58 | Xinhuan | cartographer as a whole is no longer maintained |
| 15:22.05 | Xinhuan | should just delete the entire suite |
| 15:22.05 | Pkekyo| | what's GatherMate_Tracksw? |
| 15:22.21 | Gagorian | GetSpellCooldown |
| 15:22.23 | Xinhuan | tracksw is some addon written by someone to automatically swap tracking skills |
| 15:22.24 | Vulcanus | I would post mine but it spans like 2 pages XD |
| 15:22.25 | Gagorian | That should be it! |
| 15:22.34 | Xinhuan | based on the nodes in front of you in some 90 degree angle |
| 15:22.40 | Toadkiller | Er so is Gathermate written from scratch or cart based? |
| 15:22.48 | Pkekyo| | ok...soeh, GatherHUD needed/useful? |
| 15:22.49 | Baraius | Cartographer is not maintained or pfft...Cartographer is not maintained? |
| 15:22.49 | Xinhuan | gatherMate is written from scratch |
| 15:22.55 | Xinhuan | mostly by me and kagaro |
| 15:23.05 | Xinhuan | nevcariel has a hand in the options and minimap stuff in Gathermate |
| 15:23.06 | Pkekyo| | gathermate is cart compatible? (map module) |
| 15:23.10 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:23.15 | Xinhuan | gathermate works with any or no map mod |
| 15:23.18 | nevcairiel | pff a hand .. i basically rewrote the whole minimap dealy |
| 15:23.23 | Pkekyo| | ok, getting GatherMate then |
| 15:23.25 | Xinhuan | gatherhud is like gatherer's Hud |
| 15:23.32 | Xinhuan | Routes is THE upgrade |
| 15:23.35 | Xinhuan | you MUST get |
| 15:23.37 | Xinhuan | over _routes |
| 15:23.38 | Gagorian | Hmm actually.. HourGlass uses GetSpellCooldown.. But it also uses Gratuity |
| 15:23.53 | Kalman| | Grat might be a deprecated dependency? |
| 15:23.53 | Xinhuan | i have an entire 7 page helpfile in Routes |
| 15:24.09 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: it's just named Routes? |
| 15:24.12 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:24.13 | durcyn | Gagorian: trunk or one of the funky branches? |
| 15:24.21 | shieldb | should be able to delete MobInfo2 and snag LibMobHealth-4.0 |
| 15:24.23 | Gagorian | trunk |
| 15:24.24 | Xinhuan | also, Routes and GatherMate does not use Babble |
| 15:24.25 | Stanzilla | <Xinhuan> i have an entire 7 page helpfile in Routes < /doom |
| 15:24.36 | Xinhuan | so you can get rid of Babble-gas/herb/fish/ore |
| 15:24.43 | Gagorian | It scans all spells whenever the spellbook changes with gratuity |
| 15:24.45 | Xinhuan | and /treasure |
| 15:24.46 | Pkekyo| | ok, just lost cart |
| 15:24.57 | Xinhuan | if you got rid of the whole cart |
| 15:25.00 | Xinhuan | then get Mapster instead |
| 15:25.22 | Toadkiller | Does Gathermate import cart nodes some of which I imported from Gatherer? |
| 15:25.26 | Xinhuan | Mapster contains group coloring, look-n-feel, foglight and coords |
| 15:25.26 | Pkekyo| | no, just the gathering stuff |
| 15:25.33 | Baraius | Does Mapster have waypoints? |
| 15:25.39 | CIA-42 | 03schelli * r74665 10FuBar_MoneyDetailFu/ (. MoneyDetailFu.lua): FuBar_MoneyDetailFu.lua : minor bugfix |
| 15:25.39 | Xinhuan | Mapster doesn't have waypoints |
| 15:25.42 | Baraius | kk |
| 15:25.43 | Xinhuan | but you can use TomTom |
| 15:25.45 | syeren | Toadkiller, I would suggest GRoutes and Mapster. |
| 15:26.13 | Xinhuan | Routes works on any map or no map mod, and supports both cart_waypoints and tomtom |
| 15:26.21 | Xinhuan | actually i haven't enabled tomtom support |
| 15:26.33 | Xinhuan | but the code is all there |
| 15:26.56 | Pkekyo| | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4240/addonsfolderya1.jpg <--- current addons folder |
| 15:26.57 | Toadkiller | We need a better way to keep people updated on all this stuff imo |
| 15:27.01 | syeren | Toadkiller: http://bayimg.com/AajeOAabl |
| 15:27.04 | Pkekyo| | (down to 216 folders 'yay') |
| 15:27.10 | syeren | Check that for an example of Routes and Mapster working together :p |
| 15:27.23 | Xinhuan | Also, if you deleted Cartographer_notes/trainers/flightmastes/vendors/mailbox, the repalcement is HandyNotes |
| 15:27.38 | Pkekyo| | exactly what does HandyNotes do? |
| 15:27.44 | Xinhuan | HandyNotes is a _Notes replacement |
| 15:27.56 | Baraius | Does TomTom have the floaty-arrow-thingy? |
| 15:28.00 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:28.01 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 15:28.03 | Baraius | cool |
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| 15:28.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:28.24 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: but replaces all the cart modules you mentioned? |
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| 15:28.30 | Ackis | I can't wait for them to add tracking mailboxes |
| 15:28.30 | Lyn_ | e |
| 15:28.35 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: oh..delete Threat-1.0 |
| 15:28.37 | Xinhuan | well htere's HandyNotes_Vendors, HandyNotes_Mailboxes and stuff |
| 15:28.42 | Xinhuan | you'll lose your existing databases |
| 15:28.42 | nevcairiel | Ackis: didnt they do that? o.O |
| 15:28.43 | Pkekyo| | done Stanzilla |
| 15:28.43 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: You need to get serious and just delete everything. then start adding in mods u need! |
| 15:28.54 | Xinhuan | since HandyNotes doesn't come with its own database, you collect them over time |
| 15:28.55 | Ackis | oh jees they did |
| 15:29.01 | Pkekyo| | but...will have to reconfig my UI again :< |
| 15:29.04 | Ackis | i'm in sex now |
| 15:29.05 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: delete Prat and get Chatter |
| 15:29.09 | Pkekyo| | why? |
| 15:29.18 | Stanzilla | we explained that before :P |
| 15:29.18 | durcyn | deja vu |
| 15:29.18 | Xinhuan | Chatter uses 20% ram |
| 15:29.19 | Toadkiller | Prat sucks? |
| 15:29.19 | Pkekyo| | 'just better' won't cut it, HOW is it better? |
| 15:29.20 | Xinhuan | of Prat |
| 15:29.35 | Pkekyo| | it's not like I'm lacking RAM tbh :p |
| 15:29.37 | Stanzilla | it doesn't eat your system |
| 15:29.39 | durcyn | Pkekyo|: as mentioned previously, :RegisterAllEvents |
| 15:29.47 | Ackis | chatter only uses 1 folder, whereas prat has 4? |
| 15:29.50 | Pkekyo| | durcyn: DURR...got no idea what that means :) |
| 15:29.55 | Pkekyo| | Ackis: ok, I'm sold |
| 15:29.59 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 15:30.01 | Baraius | LoL |
| 15:30.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:30.01 | Ackis | <-- win |
| 15:30.03 | Toadkiller | Prat sounds stupid... |
| 15:30.04 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 15:30.06 | Xinhuan | nobody in this channel disagrees chatter > prat |
| 15:30.20 | Xinhuan | even sylvanaar said he's stopping prat development because chatter is out |
| 15:30.25 | Ackis | really? |
| 15:30.26 | nevcairiel | my 5kb chat mod > chatter > prat |
| 15:30.29 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 15:30.29 | Pkekyo| | Ackis: btw, it has 6 folders |
| 15:30.35 | [Ammo] | agrees with nevcairiel |
| 15:30.39 | Ackis | can't count |
| 15:30.45 | Vulcanus | Prat is Norwegian for "talk", btw ;p |
| 15:30.47 | [Ammo] | but that doesn't cut it for the users :) |
| 15:30.54 | Toadkiller | Whisp? |
| 15:31.10 | Pkekyo| | pats Ackis...one plus one equals...? |
| 15:31.12 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 15:31.15 | Xinhuan | HandyNotes_FlightMasters is cool, because i draw flightmaster lines from one FM to another FM linking them on the map ;p |
| 15:31.26 | Ackis | well, 1 + 1 = 0 in z mod 2 :P |
| 15:31.35 | Xinhuan | so if you hover over the flightmaster icon in IF, you'll see 15 lines going outwards |
| 15:31.39 | Pkekyo| | what does HandyNotes_Guild do? |
| 15:31.47 | durcyn | Pkekyo|: LibGuildPositions |
| 15:31.49 | Xinhuan | it replaces Cart_GuildPositions obviously |
| 15:31.58 | Xinhuan | but it works with cart uses |
| 15:32.02 | Xinhuan | users* |
| 15:32.11 | durcyn | basically the only feature in cartographer that hasn't been replaced yet is InstanceMaps/InstanceLoot |
| 15:32.15 | Pkekyo| | does it work with cart itself? :p |
| 15:32.21 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: mine even has 3 config upvalues! http://ace.pastey.net/88169 |
| 15:32.23 | ikon- | are there any working Fubar addons that show you current DPS? |
| 15:32.34 | Xinhuan | cart_InstanceLoot is nonsense, because you already have AtlasLoot installed |
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| 15:32.50 | Xinhuan | instancemaps might be a loss |
| 15:32.53 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: yours looks awfully a lot like me |
| 15:32.53 | Xinhuan | but do you really need them? |
| 15:32.53 | durcyn | atlasloot is total unmitigated shit |
| 15:33.04 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: i copied all SCM modules into one file :D |
| 15:33.11 | nevcairiel | well not all |
| 15:33.12 | nevcairiel | all i need |
| 15:33.15 | Xinhuan | well having both atlasloot and Instanceloot is just silly |
| 15:33.20 | durcyn | true |
| 15:33.22 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: me too, less hookage required :) |
| 15:33.23 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.27 | Pkekyo| | holy shit |
| 15:33.33 | Pkekyo| | not using instancemaps tbh |
| 15:33.36 | nevcairiel | although my url capture patterns need some work |
| 15:33.40 | nevcairiel | they are off too much |
| 15:33.43 | durcyn | but i'd take carto_instanceloot over atlasloot any and every day of the week |
| 15:33.49 | Ackis | has 273 folders in his add-on folder |
| 15:33.51 | nevcairiel | looks at chatters patterns |
| 15:33.55 | Xinhuan | i'll take atlasloot over carto_instanceloot any day of the week |
| 15:34.06 | Ackis | Someone write me a mod to allow me to browse 4chan in-game, alt-tabbing is terrible |
| 15:34.08 | Xinhuan | _instanceloot is crap in terms of what it offers |
| 15:34.16 | Pkekyo| | ok, down to 213 folders :p |
| 15:34.16 | Xinhuan | meaning, it doesn't offer trash mob drops |
| 15:34.23 | Xinhuan | or arena set loot |
| 15:34.33 | Xinhuan | or being able to see an entire set like T3 set |
| 15:34.37 | Xinhuan | in the same page |
| 15:34.39 | Ackis | Xinhuan: it wasn't maintained and was poorly implemented |
| 15:34.42 | durcyn | none of which i give a rat's ass about |
| 15:34.43 | Xinhuan | or WSG vendor loot |
| 15:34.49 | Pkekyo| | Ace 2 replaced by 3 yet? |
| 15:34.50 | Xinhuan | arena gear |
| 15:34.55 | Xinhuan | badge rewards |
| 15:35.13 | Xinhuan | every crafting/profesion item |
| 15:35.25 | Xinhuan | pvp items, etc |
| 15:35.35 | Pkekyo| | on a more serious note though: poop |
| 15:35.53 | PsG-1 | Anyone here versed in AceGUI? I'm having trouble positioning a label within a frame widget |
| 15:35.58 | Xinhuan | in that sense, atlasloot (even with its poor programming) offers so much over _Instanceloot |
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| 15:36.39 | Pkekyo| | PaintChipsLib? |
| 15:36.44 | Xinhuan | if you ditch the whole carto series, the replacements would be Mapster + Routes + Gathermate + Handynotes (+ atlasloot) |
| 15:36.45 | durcyn | you call those features, i call them cruft, to each his own |
| 15:37.34 | Xinhuan | instanceloot isn't maintained, Pt3.1 contains missing loot from many bosses |
| 15:37.42 | Xinhuan | atlasloot is active |
| 15:37.53 | Baraius | k |
| 15:38.00 | Xinhuan | active developers count too |
| 15:38.11 | Vulcanus | Since we're in an advisory mood here: MetaMap any good or is Mapster better? |
| 15:38.11 | Baraius | That's my primary concern. |
| 15:38.31 | Xinhuan | i find the lack of trash mob drops in pt3.1 a major disincentive |
| 15:38.39 | Baraius | Written by ckknight...don't care. Not maintained...do care. |
| 15:38.52 | ckknight | hrm? |
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| 15:39.10 | Baraius | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:39.14 | ckknight | Baraius: yea, I've been really busy with curseforge and the like |
| 15:39.17 | Aeyan | Mapster is excellent if all you want is a movable, scalable map with coordinates and fog clear |
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| 15:39.31 | ckknight | I'm planning on releasing a beta of Cartographer3 today. |
| 15:39.31 | ckknight | so you all know |
| 15:39.31 | Baraius | Cool. |
| 15:39.31 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: PT3.1 dropped trash mobs or has not been updated? |
| 15:39.35 | Aeyan | ckknight: Awesome. |
| 15:39.40 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 15:39.48 | Xinhuan | but i've seen enough posts on the forums asking for it |
| 15:39.58 | ckknight | I'll be hosting it primarily on CurseForge |
| 15:40.14 | Toadkiller | Hey good timing, I was starting to get ill contemplating changing to all these other mods. |
| 15:40.43 | Fisker- | kicks ckknight over the knee |
| 15:40.57 | Xinhuan | also if you use AddonLoader, Mapster doesn't load until you press M ;p |
| 15:41.15 | nevcairiel | i should add a hook on opening the blizz config |
| 15:41.18 | ckknight | note: Cartographer3 plays nice with other addons such as Routes, GatherMate, HandyNotes, etc. |
| 15:41.19 | nevcairiel | so the options are there |
| 15:41.45 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 15:41.51 | Xinhuan | iv'e been following cart3 a bit |
| 15:41.54 | Baraius | Cool. |
| 15:42.12 | Xinhuan | do you use a mailbox addon Pkekyo|? |
| 15:42.24 | Vulcanus | postal ftw ;o |
| 15:42.26 | Toadkiller | Quick Survey: anyone use the keyBound thingy found in BT4 or Bongos3? Do you like it? Any features u think it needs? I ask because I am working on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibKeyBound-1.0 and have some ideas for improvement but I may as well get all the ideas lined up. |
| 15:42.40 | Baraius | I really like it. |
| 15:42.43 | Baraius | the /kb |
| 15:42.44 | Xinhuan | what does that lib do? |
| 15:42.51 | Baraius | (on bt4) |
| 15:43.23 | Kaaosa- | ~cartographer3 |
| 15:43.24 | purl | rumour has it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 15:43.24 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: define 'mailbox addon' |
| 15:43.24 | Toadkiller | Right now its same as /kb, but lib form so the code wont clash from multiple mods using it |
| 15:43.24 | Zenom | is it me or are guilds already dieing before wotlk |
| 15:43.24 | durcyn | purl can't answer you with +R set, Kaaosa- |
| 15:43.25 | Fisker- | btw yay nevcairiel |
| 15:43.25 | Baraius | That would be cool. |
| 15:43.29 | Baraius | I wish more addons did that. |
| 15:43.32 | durcyn | or just lagged. |
| 15:43.34 | Xinhuan | a mailbox addon is one that helps you read mail, usually with options like "Open All" |
| 15:43.40 | *** mode/#wowace [-rR] by nevcairiel |
| 15:43.41 | Xinhuan | or "Open Selected" |
| 15:43.45 | expiation | whats a git:// link |
| 15:43.45 | Baraius | Going to the keybinding menu and scroll-scroll-scroll makes me sad. |
| 15:43.46 | Kaaosa- | Oh |
| 15:43.58 | Zenom | git is a version control system |
| 15:44.26 | Xinhuan | Baraius, most of my addons's config allows keybinding in the config itself ;p |
| 15:44.38 | Toadkiller | Baraius: yeah I will try to have both systems still work. |
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| 15:44.43 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: no, don't have one - why? |
| 15:44.48 | Xinhuan | just asking ;p |
| 15:45.26 | Toadkiller | Postal pretty much covers it for me when it comes to mail... |
| 15:45.39 | Vulcanus | Is there an alternative to MobInfo2? I want health tracking and drop info tracking, and preferrably importing my MobInfo2 data |
| 15:45.42 | Xinhuan | oh Pkekyo|, i'll recommend SwapMagic too |
| 15:45.50 | Pkekyo| | which is/does? |
| 15:46.01 | Xinhuan | it allows you to hover the mouse over an equipment slot, say your chest |
| 15:46.10 | Xinhuan | then hold down ALT, and it shows you a list of chest gear in your bags |
| 15:46.11 | Toadkiller | hold alt key over paper doll frame to see what similar items u have in bags |
| 15:46.16 | Xinhuan | then click, to equip the other chest |
| 15:46.24 | Xinhuan | if you're in combat, it queues |
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| 15:46.34 | Pkekyo| | sweet |
| 15:46.36 | Toadkiller | Its like ItemRack for just one slot... |
| 15:46.39 | Pkekyo| | getting that then |
| 15:46.44 | Xinhuan | pretty much Swapmagic + ClosetGnome = Itemrack |
| 15:46.45 | Fisker- | ckknight btw |
| 15:46.46 | Pkekyo| | dinner though; brb, gonna bother you later |
| 15:46.58 | Xinhuan | also i'll recommend Postal, because i wrote it ;p |
| 15:47.08 | Fisker- | do you have any source to read up on minimap textures? |
| 15:47.13 | nevcairiel | meh there is no need for a mailbox addon :P |
| 15:47.18 | Toadkiller | Gello is back so Itemrack lives! |
| 15:47.27 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 15:47.30 | Xinhuan | i thought gello quit 3 months ago? |
| 15:47.38 | expiation | cartographer3 wouldn't work with the addons like cartographer_mining? |
| 15:47.46 | Xinhuan | expiation, nope |
| 15:47.49 | Toadkiller | Nah hes kicking around. Also some guy was subbing for him on ItemRack |
| 15:47.57 | Xinhuan | cartographer_mining is a specific cartographer addon |
| 15:47.59 | Fisker- | btw close we almost got nuked nevcairiel |
| 15:48.01 | Xinhuan | not a cart3 addon |
| 15:48.08 | Toadkiller | I finally switched to the latest version since I dont use the event stuff anyways |
| 15:48.10 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: only almost :( |
| 15:48.20 | Fisker- | :) |
| 15:48.22 | expiation | ahh right but gathermate etc would work? |
| 15:48.26 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:48.29 | expiation | cheers |
| 15:48.47 | Xinhuan | because Gathermate isn't dependant on any map addon, while carto_mining is dependant on carto_notes, which is in turn dependant on carto |
| 15:49.03 | expiation | makes sense |
| 15:49.39 | Xinhuan | more importantly gahtermate allows you to set the color of your tracking circles! |
| 15:49.42 | Xinhuan | even to 0 alpha |
| 15:49.54 | Kaaosa- | ^ |
| 15:49.57 | expiation | hmm |
| 15:49.57 | Xinhuan | separate colors per database type (fish/herb/etc) |
| 15:49.59 | Toadkiller | lolwut? why? |
| 15:50.04 | expiation | cool |
| 15:50.11 | Toadkiller | That part is nice |
| 15:50.18 | Xinhuan | i dunno, heaps of people are like "i don't like pink!" ;p |
| 15:50.26 | expiation | i like pink :o |
| 15:50.41 | Toadkiller | I like it, and its more purple on my monitor |
| 15:50.47 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 15:50.56 | Zenom | is it with upgrading to the new bartender version? (3 or 4 whatever it is) |
| 15:51.04 | Fisker- | anyone know why windows xp totally ignores my the program i manually try to add as a file association to a specific file? |
| 15:51.15 | Toadkiller | imo it is worth upgrading |
| 15:51.29 | Zenom | k will give it a whirl |
| 15:51.40 | expiation | why isnt cartographer3 in the wau list anyway |
| 15:51.51 | Xinhuan | cart3 isn't developed on wowace |
| 15:51.51 | Stanzilla | because it's not hosted on wowace |
| 15:51.53 | Xinhuan | ~cart3 |
| 15:51.59 | Xinhuan | ~cartographer3 |
| 15:51.59 | purl | somebody said cartographer3 was the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 15:52.25 | Xinhuan | its very Carbonite-like |
| 15:52.43 | expiation | i'd never heard about it till now ;d |
| 15:52.48 | kenlyric | similar to google maps? |
| 15:52.52 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:52.54 | kenlyric | I can finally soom in! |
| 15:52.59 | Xinhuan | you have a 3 continent view |
| 15:53.03 | Xinhuan | then you can zoom in and out |
| 15:53.04 | nevcairiel | looks crappy with those minimap textures, though |
| 15:53.09 | Xinhuan | at s low zoom it switches to minimap textures |
| 15:53.13 | Toadkiller | Fisker-: Do you have another app already in charge of it or overriding on app launch? |
| 15:53.16 | Zenom | anyone know of a clock addon that shows local and server time? |
| 15:53.16 | Xinhuan | that are stitched seemlessly |
| 15:53.20 | Zenom | together |
| 15:53.28 | kenlyric | can it zoom all the way down and give live view? :) |
| 15:53.32 | Xinhuan | Fubar_ClockFu |
| 15:53.36 | kenlyric | cart4 suggestion |
| 15:53.38 | Kaaosa- | ClockF-- yeah |
| 15:53.39 | Xinhuan | can show both |
| 15:53.43 | Toadkiller | Group Calendar has a nice clock... |
| 15:53.43 | Zenom | cool thanks |
| 15:53.56 | Fisker- | no Toadkiller |
| 15:54.08 | Xinhuan | there are other clock addons, but i don't know any that can show both server/local at the same time |
| 15:54.28 | Xinhuan | most at best allows selecting one or the other |
| 15:54.51 | Zenom | yeah would just be nice to show both since one of my servers is -2 from my local time |
| 15:54.58 | Toadkiller | Fisker-: ok so when u try to open the file it claims it knows nothing and gives u some options to pick from. then you choose search for app... and go find it? |
| 15:55.04 | Xinhuan | you play on more than 1 server? |
| 15:55.07 | Fisker- | yeah Toadkiller |
| 15:55.15 | Vulcanus | Is there an alternative to MobInfo2? I want health tracking and drop info tracking, and preferrably importing my MobInfo2 data |
| 15:55.17 | Toadkiller | and u click on always use this app to open it? |
| 15:55.22 | Xinhuan | Vulcanus, unfortunately no |
| 15:55.23 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:55.27 | Vulcanus | dammit :( |
| 15:55.27 | Toadkiller | doh! |
| 15:55.27 | Fisker- | When i choose the app i want to use |
| 15:55.32 | Fisker- | it doesn't appear on the list at all |
| 15:55.35 | Xinhuan | however you can try Mobhealth3 |
| 15:55.42 | Xinhuan | if all you want is just mob healths |
| 15:55.51 | Toadkiller | Wait your app is not in the list? |
| 15:55.53 | Xinhuan | doesn't import anything btw |
| 15:55.57 | Fisker- | nope |
| 15:55.57 | Vulcanus | I like drop rate stuffs tho |
| 15:56.07 | Xinhuan | then you're stuck with MI2 |
| 15:56.15 | Toadkiller | Ok but there is a button below all that that lets u go pick your app right? |
| 15:56.15 | Vulcanus | ok, thanks anyways :) |
| 15:56.21 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:56.30 | Fisker- | and when i pick the app manually it puts me back at the list, and i can't choose it |
| 15:56.34 | Fisker- | like you'd normally be able to |
| 15:56.43 | Vulcanus | And thank you for BankItems, swapped from CharactersViewer and haven't looked back :D |
| 15:56.51 | Toadkiller | If you use that then it should work. I think b4 u click it theres a checkbox u need to click for "always use selected app to open file" |
| 15:57.09 | Fisker- | yeah i know that |
| 15:57.15 | Fisker- | but it's on the list itself |
| 15:57.20 | Fisker- | i never get any choice to use the app i want |
| 15:57.25 | Fisker- | even though i browse for it manually |
| 15:57.29 | Toadkiller | It should work for going and picking too |
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| 15:57.50 | Toadkiller | so u browse for it but cannot find it? |
| 15:58.08 | Fisker- | i can find it |
| 15:58.10 | Fisker- | press add |
| 15:58.17 | Fisker- | i'm back at the list where the app should be highlighted |
| 15:58.23 | Fisker- | it's not highlighted, and it's not on the list at all |
| 15:58.24 | Toadkiller | Add? |
| 15:58.33 | Fisker- | yeah or open or whatever |
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| 15:59.15 | Toadkiller | Right when u click open it should open the file and dismiss the previous dialog... |
| 15:59.32 | CIA-42 | 03funkydude * r74666 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: updated blacklist |
| 15:59.35 | Fisker- | nope |
| 15:59.38 | Toadkiller | You are selecteing a .exe right> |
| 15:59.44 | Fisker- | it should add it to the list so it is selectable |
| 15:59.45 | Fisker- | and yeah |
| 16:00.40 | Toadkiller | No to add it to the list theres some editing u need to do. You would have to google that part but theres a way of telling XP that an app should be on the Open With list. |
| 16:00.57 | Toadkiller | XP is too far in my past now to remember tho |
| 16:01.15 | Fisker- | ok that's just stupid |
| 16:01.18 | Fisker- | i renamed the file |
| 16:01.20 | Fisker- | and now it works |
| 16:01.26 | Toadkiller | nice |
| 16:01.35 | DARKGuy | Toadkiller: what is in your present, then? |
| 16:01.45 | Fisker- | brb opening a program 12000 times |
| 16:01.51 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 16:01.52 | Toadkiller | Theres a lot of crap in XP that decays over time |
| 16:02.00 | Toadkiller | DARKGuy: hh? |
| 16:02.11 | Toadkiller | Oh Vista 32 bit |
| 16:02.19 | DARKGuy | Ah - same |
| 16:02.20 | Xinhuan | BankItems coding is pretty crap actually, it pollutes the _G with about 100-200 variables ;p |
| 16:02.20 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 16:02.34 | Xinhuan | but i left it that way only because i didn't want to break addons that hook into it |
| 16:02.45 | nevcairiel | good that i dont use it :P |
| 16:03.01 | Toadkiller | Screw the hookers, they should l2hook safely imo... |
| 16:03.05 | Xinhuan | if i do anything with it, it'll be a full rewrite for WotLK |
| 16:03.06 | Vulcanus | Well Xin, it's using less memory than most of my other addons and it works, I'm happy XD |
| 16:03.21 | Xinhuan | that's really the only part i don't like about it |
| 16:03.23 | expiation | theres no way to make cart3 fullscreen? |
| 16:03.24 | Xinhuan | the _G pollution |
| 16:03.30 | Xinhuan | other than that the rest of it is ok |
| 16:03.50 | Toadkiller | Is _G polution attributed to your mod? |
| 16:04.08 | Xinhuan | nah, its just that i declared every function directly in _G space |
| 16:04.09 | DARKGuy | you know, I wouldn't mind if my addons take some memory, but damn, the loading time when you have -some- addons is really outrageous |
| 16:04.14 | Xinhuan | rather than in an addon table |
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| 16:04.28 | Xinhuan | the original addon is written way back in wow 1.0 |
| 16:04.37 | Xinhuan | when nobody wrote addons using addon tables |
| 16:04.44 | Toadkiller | Yeah thats why Auctioneer is only on ONE bank alt for me |
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| 16:05.11 | Xinhuan | i don't like to break support addons by changing the core |
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| 16:05.24 | expiation | what kinda map isnt fullscreen :( |
| 16:05.25 | Xinhuan | and its seen some 400k downloads or something over 2-3 years |
| 16:05.45 | Toadkiller | Hah yeah my original mod spewed all over _G because a) I didnt even know about _G, and b) thats what it told me to do on wowwiki |
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| 16:06.04 | nevcairiel | wowwiki is no programming handbook :P |
| 16:06.11 | nevcairiel | learn lua, then learn wow specific |
| 16:06.14 | Toadkiller | no, no it is not |
| 16:06.19 | Xinhuan | as one writes more and more addons though, you get better and better |
| 16:06.21 | Vulcanus | Toadkiller: the new AucAdvanced uses less than 2mb memory until you visit the AH, so you could leave stats enabled on all chars and the scanning on only one (I think ;p) |
| 16:06.25 | DARKGuy | it's free though. |
| 16:07.12 | Toadkiller | Vulcanus: I am talking about auc adv and its buddies |
| 16:07.14 | Xinhuan | i mess a lot with Omen/threat code nowadays |
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| 16:08.01 | Toadkiller | I really cant afford to take forever to zone into an aren or whatnot |
| 16:08.20 | Xinhuan | wait, auctioneer causes you to take longer to zone? |
| 16:08.41 | Toadkiller | So Xinhuan, does that mean you are the one that is making all the new threat modes in Omen almost work? |
| 16:08.50 | Xinhuan | yes toad |
| 16:09.00 | Xinhuan | the last 30-50 or so commits are by me |
| 16:09.08 | Toadkiller | Nice, someone noticed the aoe one was sort of going last night. |
| 16:09.10 | DARKGuy | you rock |
| 16:09.29 | Xinhuan | i bet most people don't look at who did the commits ;p |
| 16:09.39 | Vulcanus | I do ;p |
| 16:09.42 | Xinhuan | and only read the effect/change |
| 16:10.07 | Xinhuan | the pet module needs a full rewrite |
| 16:10.09 | DARKGuy | I do |
| 16:10.11 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 16:10.13 | Toadkiller | I just update 1/day and dont look at anything except which mods changed sometimes (the green ones in update log) |
| 16:10.14 | Xinhuan | it seriously sucks |
| 16:10.22 | expiation | ckknight any plans to allow fullscreen? |
| 16:10.55 | ckknight | expiation: all fullscreen will be will making the map close to the size of your screen and allow a toggle between small and large |
| 16:11.03 | Snago | Xinhuan: I bet most ppl don't even read the changes :P |
| 16:11.08 | expiation | hrmm |
| 16:11.09 | ckknight | expiation: I will want people to file tickets when I get the CF project up |
| 16:11.15 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 16:11.24 | expiation | ckknight i want it ontop of everything so i don't click decursive while lookin at my map |
| 16:11.37 | Xinhuan | i was fixing up all the lingering threat today/yesterday |
| 16:11.54 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: if u want people to now then u jsut post to the thread every once in a while with some change u really like... |
| 16:12.19 | Xinhuan | it appears that threat-2.0 set a mob's threat to 0 on death, then niled it out, but it gets readded as 0 threat |
| 16:12.31 | Xinhuan | and since it exists in the threat tables, it counts as part of healing threat |
| 16:12.39 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 16:12.46 | Xinhuan | and that causes extra comms |
| 16:12.53 | Xinhuan | since you have more mobs to send/receive |
| 16:13.04 | Xinhuan | and causes the effect when when you select a corpse in combat, you see threat on it frmo everyone |
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| 16:14.17 | Toadkiller | expiation: just ask to be able to set its frame strata to FULLSCREEN... |
| 16:15.03 | expiation | ^-- plz to this :D |
| 16:15.10 | Xinhuan | also omen updates its display at most once every 0.25 seconds at the moment |
| 16:15.29 | Xinhuan | this means if 5 events happen, the first one causes an update, the next 4 within 0.25 seconds don't get updated |
| 16:15.48 | Xinhuan | probably will change that to delayed timer system |
| 16:16.20 | Toadkiller | Can you make it adjustable for faster clients? |
| 16:16.33 | nevcairiel | 0.25 is fast enough |
| 16:16.39 | nevcairiel | 4 updates a second? come one :P |
| 16:16.51 | Xinhuan | that's just for display |
| 16:16.57 | Xinhuan | it only affects display |
| 16:17.18 | Pkekyo| | blargh...I'm back |
| 16:17.19 | Xinhuan | inside threat-2.0 itself, the rate of sending threat over the hidden addon channel is determined by raid size |
| 16:17.43 | Toadkiller | Well humans can see 24 fps so you have some room for speedup |
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| 16:17.48 | Xinhuan | it also uses the same system of sending, so the last few threat events might not actually get sent at all |
| 16:17.54 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: fancy scrutinizing some more? |
| 16:18.20 | Xinhuan | toad the updates are for changing the numbers on the bars ;p |
| 16:18.25 | CIA-42 | 03kunda * r74667 10GridIndicatorSideIcons/ (6 files): |
| 16:18.25 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorSideIcons: |
| 16:18.25 | CIA-42 | - rearranged options for a better indicator menu |
| 16:18.25 | CIA-42 | - added option for offset (X/Y-axis) (top/bottom and left/right) [Frame -> Advanced -> Icon (Sides)] |
| 16:18.30 | Xinhuan | the growing and shrinking animationis every frame |
| 16:19.08 | Xinhuan | i dunno, you tell me ;p |
| 16:19.30 | Toadkiller | Well I do not know the code but if events come in faster than .24 seconds and I can update a bit faster on my fast comp I am not opposed to it. |
| 16:19.45 | Snago | Hehe, I bet noone can read numbers that change more than 4 times/sec anyway :P |
| 16:20.16 | Toadkiller | Its not about reading numbbers its about riding the threat bar below the tanks / below the aggro pull limit... |
| 16:21.43 | Toadkiller | .25 seconds is half of our perceptual lag so its a 50% delay... |
| 16:21.59 | Toadkiller | *up to |
| 16:22.35 | DARKGuy | there should be a way to remove the numbers and only show bars in Omen, or I might have overlooked it? :O |
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| 16:22.45 | nevcairiel | the .25 is only for updating the position of the threat bars |
| 16:22.48 | nevcairiel | not the actual numbers |
| 16:23.07 | Xinhuan | if i remember correctly, threat-2.0 transmits threat every 2.5 seconds |
| 16:23.16 | Xinhuan | or is it every 5 seconds |
| 16:23.16 | Toadkiller | I think I am misunderstanding then. How fast do the numbers change? |
| 16:23.29 | Pkekyo| | sodding hell, I'm unable to update Babble, Cartographer and PitBull through WAU...any ideas? |
| 16:23.32 | Xinhuan | the numbers change on every combat log event or comms receive event |
| 16:23.41 | Toadkiller | holy hell every 5 seconds? |
| 16:23.47 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 16:23.55 | Xinhuan | tanks are modified to send threat twice as often |
| 16:24.05 | Xinhuan | detected by defensive stance/bear form or righteous fury |
| 16:24.07 | nevcairiel | 2.5 for normal members |
| 16:24.10 | Funkeh` | comm recieve and log event = a LOT / second |
| 16:24.11 | nevcairiel | half that time for tanks |
| 16:24.17 | Xinhuan | maybe its what nev said |
| 16:24.21 | Xinhuan | i can't remember the exact numbers |
| 16:24.25 | Xinhuan | but its about there |
| 16:24.32 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: and only checks by class, not any stance etc ;) |
| 16:24.37 | Xinhuan | 2.5 for normal, 1.25 for tanks |
| 16:24.57 | Toadkiller | Ah ok so for an individual the tank is pretty accurate, and you yourself is super accurate, everyone else jsut lags...? |
| 16:25.07 | Xinhuan | local interval = math_min(2.5, 1.5 + (1 * (partyNum / 20))) |
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| 16:25.14 | Xinhuan | if playerClass == "WARRIOR" or playerClass == "DRUID" or playerClass == "PALADIN" then |
| 16:25.14 | Xinhuan | interval = interval * 0.5 |
| 16:25.23 | Xinhuan | that's the calculation for the publish interval |
| 16:25.50 | Xinhuan | so 2.5 is the minimum publish time |
| 16:25.55 | Toadkiller | I am jsut trying to figure out why people are like "I was totally below in threat and then just pulled aggro" |
| 16:26.22 | Toadkiller | Sometimes they admit to doing 6 crits in a row which is totally wtf are u thinking? |
| 16:26.24 | Xinhuan | if your raid contains 25 ppl, then its 1.5 + (1 * (20 / 20) |
| 16:26.51 | CIA-42 | 03belazor * r74668 10/branches/Cryolysis3/Cryolysis3.lua: |
| 16:26.51 | CIA-42 | Cryolysis3: |
| 16:26.51 | CIA-42 | - Fix Blizzard config options frame injection |
| 16:27.22 | Xinhuan | see toadkiller, omen updates the screen with a change in threat only if there hasn't been an update in the last 0.25s |
| 16:27.47 | Xinhuan | so if the code updates the screen, then some changes happen within the next 0.25s, these changes don't get updated until the first change outside that 0.25 |
| 16:27.50 | Warcraft3 | anyone use itemrack? |
| 16:28.04 | Xinhuan | that's slightly problematic basically |
| 16:28.12 | Xinhuan | the same applies to sending threat over comms |
| 16:28.14 | Toadkiller | Ok let me modify it this way: If I cast a spell, is my personal threat updated instantly? |
| 16:28.39 | Xinhuan | inside threat-2.0 it is updated instantly |
| 16:28.39 | Toadkiller | I use itemrack |
| 16:28.45 | nevcairiel | only comms are throttled |
| 16:28.46 | Xinhuan | but the change isn't reflected on your screen instantly if there's already an update to your screen in the last 0.25s |
| 16:29.01 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:29.02 | Toadkiller | Ok so that would be the only request I have... |
| 16:29.21 | Xinhuan | so i've been planning to change it so that it calls a delayed update 0.25s later if necessary |
| 16:29.32 | Snago | So if there was an update and then a change directly after and then silent for 5 sec you wouldn't get the second change? |
| 16:29.38 | Xinhuan | correct snago |
| 16:29.59 | Xinhuan | changes occur very often though, with every damage you do, every heal you do, and every threat comms you receive |
| 16:30.26 | Toadkiller | Well the important thing in Omen is this: that action I just did: did it put me over the line for threat or not? |
| 16:30.34 | Xinhuan | that is why the display behavior isn't accurate |
| 16:30.44 | Toadkiller | DOnt reall ycare how long it takes for other people |
| 16:30.46 | Xinhuan | the threat comms behavior is also throttled in the same way |
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| 16:30.57 | Xinhuan | meaning some of your actions might not get transmitted at all |
| 16:31.07 | Xinhuan | until you do something to cause another trasmission |
| 16:31.14 | Xinhuan | that didn't occur in the last 2.5 s |
| 16:31.22 | Xinhuan | since transmissions are throttled at 2.5s |
| 16:31.43 | nevcairiel | sounds like a case for AceBucket :D |
| 16:31.46 | Toadkiller | Yes but all I need to know locally is the (x2 frequency tank update) + what I just did. Nothing can be done about the tank data being throttled. But my personal stuff could be updated faster...? |
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| 16:32.48 | Xinhuan | like i said i'm meaning to change the display update system slightly so it always forces an update 0.25s |
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| 16:32.53 | Xinhuan | after the last update |
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| 16:33.12 | Xinhuan | rather than "only update if it hasn't been updated for > 0.25s" |
| 16:33.16 | Xinhuan | quite different |
| 16:33.25 | expiation | the gathermate info doesn't show on the full map either only in minimap |
| 16:33.43 | Xinhuan | gathermate info? |
| 16:33.49 | Toadkiller | Ok so a guaranteed 4 / second? |
| 16:34.00 | Xinhuan | no toad |
| 16:34.02 | nevcairiel | except nothing changed |
| 16:34.13 | Xinhuan | let me explain again |
| 16:34.21 | Xinhuan | Step 1: some threat number changed |
| 16:34.28 | Xinhuan | Step 2: omen is instructed to update display |
| 16:34.44 | Pkekyo| | what's the difference between with/without externals? |
| 16:34.45 | Xinhuan | step 3: omen checks, did i update the display less than 0.25s ago? |
| 16:34.52 | Xinhuan | step 4: if yes, don't do anything. if no, update. |
| 16:34.58 | Xinhuan | end of story |
| 16:35.03 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: since u ask u need to update WITH externals |
| 16:35.12 | Pkekyo| | because? |
| 16:35.18 | Xinhuan | so internally, it has the correct threat numbers, but the screen might not get updated with it |
| 16:35.21 | CIA-42 | 03funkydude * r74669 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: Updated blacklist |
| 16:35.38 | Xinhuan | meaning if you did a fireball + a fireblast in the same instant |
| 16:35.47 | Xinhuan | the first spell to land causes an update to the screen |
| 16:35.53 | Xinhuan | the second spell to land, doesn't cause an update |
| 16:35.57 | Pkekyo| | also: 'yay', down to 187 folders in /AddOns now :p |
| 16:36.02 | Xinhuan | because it was within 0.25s of the first spell |
| 16:36.29 | Toadkiller | Ok so I understand that part. Now can you force an immediate update (only for me) for my own spells? |
| 16:36.31 | Xinhuan | its only when some other threat change occurs after that 0.25s then you will see the second spell's effects on your screen |
| 16:36.47 | Xinhuan | that would be difficult to modify |
| 16:36.48 | expiation | Xinhuan the nodes, they only show on the minimap |
| 16:36.52 | Pkekyo| | err...back to 234 folders now :p |
| 16:37.01 | Xinhuan | expiation, what map mod are u using |
| 16:37.20 | Xinhuan | and is your options set to hide nodes on the world map? |
| 16:37.37 | Toadkiller | Well it does explain why people claim they were below but nevertheless pulled aggro,,, |
| 16:38.01 | Xinhuan | its the same thing with sending threat over comms |
| 16:38.06 | expiation | Xinhuan cartographer3 lol |
| 16:38.07 | Xinhuan | the latest thing the tank did might not get sent |
| 16:38.13 | expiation | nope thats on |
| 16:38.18 | Xinhuan | expiation, open and close the map again ;p |
| 16:38.22 | nevcairiel | in a real fight those delay issues Xinhuan describes shouldnt really matter |
| 16:38.30 | nevcairiel | because you get loads of events to fire the update again |
| 16:38.49 | expiation | did a few times :( |
| 16:39.01 | Xinhuan | then you will have to ask ckknight ;p |
| 16:39.10 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 16:39.13 | Xinhuan | he did a "hack" sort of thing to reparent everything to the cart3 window |
| 16:39.31 | Xinhuan | ckknight, he's saying gathermate icons doesn't appear on cart3's world map |
| 16:39.40 | ckknight | no way, I tested that |
| 16:39.44 | ckknight | it worked last time I tried |
| 16:39.48 | Xinhuan | as far as i know, they only appear when you hover your mouse on a zone |
| 16:39.51 | Xinhuan | to cause the zonemap to appear |
| 16:39.53 | ckknight | that's true. |
| 16:39.56 | Xinhuan | is that correct? |
| 16:40.02 | ckknight | quite. |
| 16:40.05 | expiation | the flightpaths show |
| 16:40.10 | expiation | but not gathermate nodes |
| 16:40.24 | ckknight | expiation: if you mouse over a certain zone, do you see nodes on that zone? |
| 16:41.02 | charon | Xinhuan: i've been wondering if we should move the whole fancy threat tracking in Omen to OnUpdate |
| 16:41.20 | Xinhuan | threat tracking? |
| 16:41.31 | charon | well omen tracks threat-2.0's numbers internally too |
| 16:41.33 | expiation | err now i do |
| 16:41.34 | expiation | nvm |
| 16:41.35 | charon | in the table that is used for sorting et |
| 16:41.37 | charon | *etc |
| 16:41.44 | Xinhuan | yeah it tracks them in bar.value |
| 16:41.58 | Xinhuan | then it uses table.sort() on the bars[] |
| 16:42.06 | Xinhuan | with the sort function sorting based on .value |
| 16:42.53 | charon | hmm, i think i'm actually wrong and it would be more work because while you generally expect upwards of 30 combat events per second, most of those are throttled to 2.5s by the other players sending updates. so nm |
| 16:43.10 | Xinhuan | that is correct |
| 16:43.33 | charon | oh and we could use a heap tree instead of that table, for m*log(n) cost "sorting" where m is the number of bars displayed. |
| 16:44.03 | Xinhuan | see it doesn't sort the number of bars displayed |
| 16:44.06 | Xinhuan | it sorts ALL bars |
| 16:44.14 | charon | that's what i'm saying |
| 16:44.14 | Xinhuan | then displays the number of bars it needs to display |
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| 16:44.24 | Xinhuan | by using Addbar, one by one |
| 16:44.28 | Xinhuan | its really inefficient |
| 16:44.31 | Toadkiller | buckets sort is O 2n |
| 16:44.31 | charon | if the table was a heap-structured tree instead, it wouldn't have to sort the entire table |
| 16:44.34 | Xinhuan | compared to just having the bars displayed all the time |
| 16:44.45 | Xinhuan | and then changing the text |
| 16:44.48 | Xinhuan | as needed |
| 16:44.48 | CIA-42 | 03nirek * r74670 10FeedMachine/FeedMachine.toc: FeedMachine: mutter, stupid toc |
| 16:44.49 | charon | instead it could pop off the top m at log(n) cost each |
| 16:44.52 | Xinhuan | rather than reanchoring |
| 16:44.54 | charon | or that. |
| 16:45.00 | charon | or both, perhaps. |
| 16:45.13 | Xinhuan | i believe reanchoring every bar on every update is a cause of cpu usage, but i don't have any scientific proof |
| 16:45.37 | Toadkiller | Its callbacks to C code at the very least |
| 16:45.48 | Xinhuan | because bar C is anchored to B which is anchored to A |
| 16:45.52 | Xinhuan | when you do an update |
| 16:46.02 | Xinhuan | and lets say B overtakes A |
| 16:46.11 | Xinhuan | and B gets added to the top, clear all poitns and reanchored |
| 16:46.18 | Xinhuan | C moves up along as well with B |
| 16:46.22 | Xinhuan | until C gets reanchored itself |
| 16:46.32 | Xinhuan | all that reanchoring is slow |
| 16:46.56 | Xinhuan | the whole bar system is just slow in my opinion, compared to just changing the text labels |
| 16:47.07 | charon | how about clearing all points first, then re-anchoring them one by one, as a band-aid? |
| 16:47.19 | Xinhuan | i don't really know the effect tbh |
| 16:47.24 | Toadkiller | Nah just go to the best solution. |
| 16:47.26 | Xinhuan | its difficult to test scientifcally |
| 16:47.27 | nevcairiel | yeah i never understood why eh did that, of course you need to change more labels and bar colors every change, but should be cheaper then re-anchor, right? |
| 16:47.49 | Xinhuan | but is reanchoring efficient? considering reanchoring a bar reanchors ALL bars anchored to it |
| 16:48.02 | Xinhuan | the bar anchoring at the moment just anchors a bar to the bar above it |
| 16:48.13 | nevcairiel | it probably only re-anchors on the next frame anyway |
| 16:48.17 | nevcairiel | all in one go |
| 16:48.19 | Xinhuan | so the 25th bar has the 24th as its anchor which has the 23rd as its anchor, etc |
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| 16:48.26 | Xinhuan | i don't think so |
| 16:48.36 | Xinhuan | because reanchoring may cause height/width changes |
| 16:48.44 | Xinhuan | and all those changes are known by the UI immedialtrely |
| 16:48.50 | Xinhuan | as getHeight and width reflect the changes |
| 16:48.52 | Vonhinten | How expensive is recoloring a texture? |
| 16:49.04 | Toadkiller | It is done in hardware... |
| 16:49.05 | Xinhuan | uncertain |
| 16:49.19 | Xinhuan | but all textures on the same framelevel are batch rendered at the same time |
| 16:49.33 | MoonWolf | not to much i gather |
| 16:50.02 | Vonhinten | yeah, why reanchor bars, just change their texture coords, colors, labels |
| 16:50.15 | Toadkiller | The textures are probably in the texture cache already so all u do is change the color... |
| 16:50.19 | Xinhuan | mainly because in antiarc's system, the bar itself holds information |
| 16:50.24 | Xinhuan | in bar.value, bar.guid |
| 16:50.27 | Xinhuan | and bar.whatever |
| 16:50.43 | Vonhinten | well, that can change :) |
| 16:50.53 | Toadkiller | just put that in your base sorted list then each bar just indexes. |
| 16:51.10 | Xinhuan | the frame is stored in bar.frame |
| 16:51.22 | Xinhuan | and bar.frame.parent == bar |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-42 | 03belazor * r74671 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (FuBar_GarbageFu.toc GarbageFu_Type.lua): |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-42 | FuBar_GarbageFu: |
| 16:51.23 | CIA-42 | - Update to LibGratuity-3.0 |
| 16:51.26 | Xinhuan | bar is just a {} |
| 16:51.45 | Xinhuan | so to show a bar, its just bar.frame:Show() |
| 16:51.53 | Toadkiller | yeah rip out the info into a separate list which u sort. then as suggested b4 bars jsut sit their & check if they changed... |
| 16:52.15 | Vonhinten | what's the visual impact of disabling animation of the bars? |
| 16:52.17 | Toadkiller | still bar.frame:Show(0 |
| 16:52.39 | Xinhuan | its painfully obvious that changing the labels itself is probably faster since the threat bars themselves are updated with its values every update anyway |
| 16:53.00 | Toadkiller | Speed is king baby |
| 16:53.03 | Xinhuan | but it would require quite a bit of rewriting, esp since the animation is tied to the bar itself |
| 16:53.22 | Toadkiller | I dont recall animation. What animation? |
| 16:53.25 | charon | do animations convey any extra information btw? |
| 16:53.29 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 16:53.36 | Xinhuan | the animation just smoothes out the display |
| 16:53.40 | Xinhuan | if enabled |
| 16:53.45 | Xinhuan | i believe its disabled by default? |
| 16:53.46 | charon | i don't see why you'd want an extra OnUpdate handler in an addon that already causes a lot of CPU pain |
| 16:53.46 | Xinhuan | don't remember |
| 16:54.07 | Toadkiller | Agreed |
| 16:54.11 | charon | so when are you going to do the rewrite? *cough* |
| 16:54.22 | Xinhuan | a rewrite is probably too painful |
| 16:54.38 | Toadkiller | Just keep hacking while its not too painfull |
| 16:54.40 | Xinhuan | requires changing the core and all 4 modules |
| 16:54.55 | nevcairiel | thats what branches are for |
| 16:55.28 | Xinhuan | i'm considering the simplest approach, do a :ClearAllPoints() on every bar before reanchroing |
| 16:55.42 | Xinhuan | but again, there is no way to proof it is better, or how much better |
| 16:55.43 | charon | Xinhuan: that's what i suggested above and you dismissed it :) |
| 16:55.46 | Xinhuan | because every fight is unique |
| 16:56.01 | Xinhuan | you can't duplicate the effects of every fight |
| 16:56.08 | Xinhuan | to test cpu usage |
| 16:56.17 | Vonhinten | As long as there's no backwards references to the frame, you could just do a data swap on the tables that were added to the frames |
| 16:56.55 | charon | oh btw |
| 16:57.16 | charon | i just noticed that the tank threat broadcast every 0.75-1.5s is a bit pointless since the display is throttled to 2.5 |
| 16:57.22 | Azurewrath | can anyone tell what happened to GridLayoutPlus? I can't find it anymore.. |
| 16:57.27 | Xinhuan | display is throttled to 0.25s ;p |
| 16:57.27 | charon | oh, the display is at 0.25. |
| 16:57.30 | charon | grabs more coffee |
| 16:57.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:57.41 | Xinhuan | comms is throttled to 1.25 on the 3 tank classes ;p |
| 16:57.47 | Xinhuan | although technically locks and mages tank on occasion |
| 16:58.05 | nevcairiel | not that threat sensitive though |
| 16:58.09 | Xinhuan | and some fights like gurtogg is just gimmicks |
| 16:58.53 | RaydenUni | my druid has so little life in cat form |
| 16:58.57 | RaydenUni | under 7000 |
| 16:59.30 | Xinhuan | its very difficult to test how much better/worse the update bars code is because its only relevant in a 25-man raid |
| 16:59.32 | Vonhinten | christ PNG has a massive spec |
| 16:59.43 | Xinhuan | when there's that many bars |
| 17:00.03 | Xinhuan | and every fight is unique, generating a different number of bar updates |
| 17:01.01 | Xinhuan | also Toadkiller, i don't think i can find a way to force an update of your own threat immediately |
| 17:01.12 | Xinhuan | threat uses callbacks to update displays |
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| 17:01.22 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
| 17:01.30 | Xinhuan | and the arguments sent contain srcGUID, targetGUID, threat and some stuff |
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| 17:01.55 | Xinhuan | then again, hmm. |
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| 17:02.10 | Xinhuan | do you really want to update your bars everytime your dots tick? ;p |
| 17:02.20 | Xinhuan | affliction locks have heaps of dots |
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| 17:04.01 | Xinhuan | i do suspect clearallpoints() will improve speed |
| 17:04.16 | Xinhuan | as breaking the setpoint() dependency |
| 17:04.39 | Xinhuan | would mean the base ui doesn't need to recaculate the 4 corners of every setpointed child |
| 17:05.30 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: performance is even worse now than it used to be :p |
| 17:05.35 | Snago | Xinhuan: I suspect you are right |
| 17:05.47 | Xinhuan | what's the difference Pkekyo| |
| 17:05.55 | Pkekyo| | FPS is alot lower for some reason |
| 17:06.05 | Snago | But best would probably be to not reanchor at all and just change texts/color, etc |
| 17:06.08 | Pkekyo| | less memory usage though |
| 17:06.11 | Xinhuan | disable some stuff |
| 17:06.17 | cncfanatics | well, trade some memory for cpu |
| 17:06.37 | Toadkiller | Xinhuan: if updating a locks bars so they stop pulling aggro works I am totally for it |
| 17:06.43 | Xinhuan | not reanchoring will kill the animations |
| 17:07.10 | Toadkiller | Personally I wont miss them ... never knew they were there. |
| 17:08.00 | Toadkiller | You would only need to update the one bar and bubble sort it or leave it out of place... |
| 17:08.17 | NeoTron | there are animations? |
| 17:08.17 | Toadkiller | All I know is, at the moment people report laggy updates of their threat |
| 17:08.44 | RaydenUni | if i want to get druid gear for 69 pvp where should i quest next? |
| 17:08.49 | Toadkiller | Or what I interpret as laggy. Who knows if it is real or imaginary |
| 17:08.51 | RaydenUni | shadowmoon, blade's edge, netherstorm |
| 17:09.25 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel once profiled omen |
| 17:09.32 | Xinhuan | maybe he can pull out his results again |
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| 17:11.12 | chewsocks | addon to move things around please i want to move my quest frame and the repair thing |
| 17:11.21 | Toadkiller | Well heres another kick at it: our locks except for one witrh a support spec are trying to ride within 1-4% of pulling aggro. Anything to give them faster info is good. |
| 17:12.02 | Xinhuan | discussing 2 differnet things Toadkiller |
| 17:12.03 | Toadkiller | chewsocks: QuestFu for quests imo |
| 17:12.15 | Xinhuan | one is about the cpu usage of updates the other is frequency of updates |
| 17:12.42 | CIA-42 | 03dodge * r74673 10CoolDownButtons/ (4 files in 3 dirs): CoolDownButtons: added $icon Tag to Announcements |
| 17:12.42 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r74672 10CoolDownButtons/ (5 files in 4 dirs): CoolDownButtons: added $icon Tag to Announcements |
| 17:12.45 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuandisable some stuff <--- what, exactly? |
| 17:13.00 | Xinhuan | i don' know |
| 17:13.05 | chewsocks | Toadkiller: do you know one for the repair guy or one that lets you move anything? |
| 17:13.15 | Xinhuan | you should probably delete everything |
| 17:13.23 | Xinhuan | and redo your ui from ground up |
| 17:13.27 | Xinhuan | do it in AV |
| 17:13.33 | Xinhuan | to setup raid frames |
| 17:13.39 | Xinhuan | and pick up free honor |
| 17:13.47 | Toadkiller | For repair I use DuraTek. No idea what happenned to the repair dude (yelloew & red armor thingy right?) |
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| 17:14.06 | Toadkiller | FuBar_DuraTek |
| 17:14.07 | NivFreak | a lot of addons seem to suppress it |
| 17:14.13 | chewsocks | Toadkiller: yes he is in the way of my buff bars |
| 17:16.34 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31544#comments i have to do like 15 quests to get those |
| 17:16.35 | RaydenUni | lame |
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| 17:17.09 | haste | why is dodge developing on a tag :p ? |
| 17:17.20 | haste | unless his branch actually is named 2.1, which seems odd D: |
| 17:17.57 | Funkeh` | it is |
| 17:18.09 | Funkeh` | what's odd is hes developing 2 copies at the same time |
| 17:18.21 | haste | oddness |
| 17:18.55 | Funkeh` | when it comes to wowace nothing is odd |
| 17:20.07 | Funkeh` | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/10063/ |
| 17:20.09 | Funkeh` | it's ACE |
| 17:20.11 | Funkeh` | use it |
| 17:20.11 | NeoTron | so we have this feral druid... |
| 17:20.30 | NeoTron | he claims that a "friend" of his transferred his druid to another server "as a joke" while drunk. |
| 17:20.45 | Kaaosa- | Sounds legit :V |
| 17:20.46 | NeoTron | we're not convinced it is true but regardless, quite frustrating |
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| 17:21.14 | NeoTron | the guy is young and it wouldn't surprise me if he decided to leave and is trying to make it seem like it wasn't his doing. |
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| 17:22.09 | PsG-1 | Dang... does anyone know how to remove a compoenent from a widget in AceGUI? Specifically, I want to remove the default close button from the Frame widget... |
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| 17:22.36 | NeoTron | http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6282/frostwyrmpetyv8.png so.. undead pet |
| 17:22.37 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: I wrote some StatBlock suggestions in your forum thread |
| 17:22.39 | NeoTron | cute |
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| 17:22.51 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, no you didn't |
| 17:23.03 | NeoTron | http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4184/taurenmountedcanoetw1.png <-- water vehicles? :P |
| 17:23.08 | aestil | Antiarc: congrats! |
| 17:23.14 | Funkeh` | It was all a dream |
| 17:23.45 | Stanzilla | oh noez :( |
| 17:23.47 | Funkeh` | damnit, i so misread that |
| 17:24.03 | Funkeh` | thought you said underwater and was preparing myself to diss you about boats |
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| 17:24.29 | ramoz | vhaarr: was damn cold having that ice cream |
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| 17:26.30 | NeoTron | ah decimate only affects SB, soulfire and incinerate |
| 17:26.45 | NeoTron | no decimate death coil or decimate fear :P |
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| 17:29.02 | sb | well - 2h DW again? wasnt that some TBC fake talent tree? :P |
| 17:29.03 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 17:29.24 | NeoTron | cange of demo tree means you can't get 0/21/50 and have master summoner |
| 17:31.30 | ramoz | uhm |
| 17:31.41 | NeoTron | I wonder how Demonic Empowerment works |
| 17:31.51 | ramoz | i've never actually had any use for master summoner as 0/21/40 |
| 17:32.27 | NeoTron | it's handy if 1) you die, 2) if you need to resummon the pet (think RoS phase 2 if you're using your felhunter and are about to run out of mana or, for example, if you want to swap pet to felhunter sac midfight) |
| 17:32.40 | NeoTron | which i'ev done at times when I'm in dmg intensive fights and we have some dead healers |
| 17:33.03 | ramoz | mm, but its not a great a loss |
| 17:33.31 | NeoTron | not amazingly so no |
| 17:33.47 | NeoTron | in fact I am not sure a nuke spec is the best way to go anyway |
| 17:33.52 | NeoTron | affliction/destro might be better |
| 17:34.27 | NeoTron | especially with Molten Core + Immolate sticking around - might be that using corruption/SB to proc molten core, then incinerate to renew the immolate is better |
| 17:36.00 | Cheads_ | time will tell, and the talents might be changed before release anyway |
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| 17:36.04 | NeoTron | it's interesting too - improved immolate is purely a pvp talent now |
| 17:36.14 | NeoTron | Cheads_: sure. still fun to play around with |
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| 17:37.28 | durcyn | i imagine i'll do 50/0/21 if those end up being final |
| 17:37.45 | Cheads_ | yeah, it's certainly a good indication on what's to come =) |
| 17:41.03 | NeoTron | http://www.war-tools.com/t52431.html?b=6z0135c30113521035031335200351500502u imp nuker! |
| 17:41.17 | NeoTron | man really need a lot of points in demo for that |
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| 17:43.49 | Primer | So I participated in my first sunwell GKP last night |
| 17:44.13 | Primer | we sold supposedly "best in slot" plate healing chest BS pattern for 8.5k gold |
| 17:44.24 | Primer | 2 sunmotes for about 1.2k gold |
| 17:44.27 | Primer | and something like 11 gems |
| 17:44.34 | Primer | for a total of about 13000 |
| 17:44.55 | Primer | split 25 ways, because we were nice about that (most guilds keep the money within their guild) |
| 17:45.17 | NeoTron | how long did you spend on it? |
| 17:45.20 | nevcairiel | that pattern goes for that much money? o.O |
| 17:45.22 | Primer | came out to about 520g each for an hour's worth of work |
| 17:45.40 | NeoTron | a single clear? |
| 17:45.41 | Primer | well, when you have 5 people with tons of gold bidding on it, yes |
| 17:45.49 | Primer | no |
| 17:46.00 | odt | trash run? |
| 17:46.01 | Primer | it's just farming one set of mobs |
| 17:46.03 | Primer | the third pull |
| 17:46.06 | Primer | yeah |
| 17:46.32 | Primer | you kill the robot first, the first set of mobs to clear that area, then you farm the 3rd set of mobs |
| 17:46.43 | Primer | you leave the dragon thing sheeped/sleep the entire time |
| 17:46.58 | Primer | once all the mobs are dead, except for the dragon, we loot, and run out |
| 17:47.00 | NivFreak | which pattern? |
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| 17:47.06 | Primer | they reset, rinse, repeat |
| 17:47.10 | NivFreak | lol |
| 17:47.11 | Primer | I don't recal |
| 17:47.12 | Primer | l |
| 17:47.12 | NivFreak | nice |
| 17:47.21 | NivFreak | how many people do you need to farm that trash? |
| 17:47.27 | cncfanatics | bound to have their loot table removed soon |
| 17:47.29 | odt | 20 at least |
| 17:47.32 | Primer | All I know is that they claimed it was the "best in slot" plate healing chest BS pattern |
| 17:47.58 | NeoTron | oh |
| 17:47.59 | Primer | we were able to easily do it with 23 people, where 1 afk was a healer |
| 17:48.00 | NeoTron | lol |
| 17:48.01 | NivFreak | odt: that many for trash, really? |
| 17:48.14 | odt | yeah, SW trash is hard |
| 17:48.20 | odt | it's not like 10man farming mother |
| 17:48.22 | NivFreak | naxx v2 eh |
| 17:48.35 | Primer | well, we had never been there before, as a guild GKP run |
| 17:48.43 | ramoz | GKP |
| 17:48.44 | ramoz | ? |
| 17:48.55 | Primer | once we got the hang of it, I'm sure it can be done with less |
| 17:48.59 | Primer | G == gold |
| 17:49.05 | Primer | you bid for loot at the end |
| 17:49.12 | Primer | or you bid right then if it's BoP |
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| 17:50.17 | sb | does vimeo accept xvid videos? |
| 17:50.37 | Pkekyo| | BT3 vs. BT4? |
| 17:51.11 | Snago | BT4 gets you one step closer to get rid of Ace2 |
| 17:51.13 | ramoz | Primer: just bring alot of mages |
| 17:51.24 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, we once had a young un pretend hes dad died and he quit wow, whilst neither were true he just transfered to a different server |
| 17:51.50 | Pkekyo| | Snago: I kinda always liked Ace2 |
| 17:52.02 | cncfanatics | I kinda never liked libraries at all |
| 17:52.15 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: yeah. we suspect it's more like he wanted to transfer |
| 17:52.16 | cncfanatics | except for LibStub based ones, I don't dislike htem too much as they don't ship with 7856465456+4+5646546+87895564456 depencies |
| 17:52.16 | Primer | I think that pattern was "sunwell breastplate of something" |
| 17:52.18 | Snago | Pkekyo|: ye, me too.. but now I like Ace3 so much better |
| 17:52.24 | NeoTron | and due to age feels like he has to lie about it |
| 17:52.35 | cncfanatics | NeoTron: thats weird |
| 17:52.35 | Pkekyo| | Snago: I haven't been able to (nor bothered) to keep up, so meh :p |
| 17:52.48 | NeoTron | Primer: we might do such a run not for gold but for loot |
| 17:52.51 | cncfanatics | even 5 years ago, if I'd want to transfer I'd say, peeps, I'm gonna transfer, much fun to you all |
| 17:53.13 | Primer | ramoz: yes, you need about 4 |
| 17:53.32 | ramoz | yeah, and two tanks and a couple of healers |
| 17:53.34 | ramoz | and a druid |
| 17:53.35 | Primer | one's a reserve in case other mages die |
| 17:53.35 | Primer | NeoTron: well, if you go entirely as a guild, sure |
| 17:53.38 | ramoz | thats all you really need |
| 17:53.51 | NeoTron | Primer: right |
| 17:53.53 | Primer | thing is, we didn't have enough people on in the guild last night when we got the idea |
| 17:54.03 | Primer | so we did it for the money |
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| 17:54.18 | Primer | there were at least 3-4 other groups farming them at the same time |
| 17:54.25 | ramoz | i got the dps cloth engineering goggles last night |
| 17:54.27 | ramoz | awesome |
| 17:54.37 | Primer | the market is just saturated with epic gems now |
| 17:55.06 | CIA-42 | 03adirelle * r74674 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: fixed nil error when in raid. |
| 17:55.14 | Primer | A sunwell robe pattern sold for 22k in a GKP (I'm going to use that term from now on) a friend participated in |
| 17:55.23 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 17:55.30 | Xuerian | Hoooly shit. |
| 17:55.40 | ramoz | is still dont get what KP stands for |
| 17:55.41 | ramoz | also |
| 17:55.45 | ramoz | that robe is best ingame |
| 17:55.46 | Azurewrath | i'd pay 50k for it if i had the gold.. |
| 17:55.58 | cncfanatics | I'd never pay gold for epics :p |
| 17:56.05 | cncfanatics | but thats also because the guild I'm in is in sunwell prolly |
| 17:56.07 | Pkekyo| | so...why won't Bartender4 work? |
| 17:56.11 | NivFreak | gold is easy to come by |
| 17:56.13 | cncfanatics | (even though I'm a social now) |
| 17:56.15 | Xuerian | Azurewrath: 50k for something you'll use, at most, till the end of this year? :p |
| 17:56.16 | Primer | DKP |
| 17:56.17 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: it wants you to use flexbar |
| 17:56.23 | Primer | Dragon Kill Points (or something) |
| 17:56.31 | Azurewrath | cncfanatics: i am in sunwell too... but the robe recipe never drops... |
| 17:56.33 | Primer | the old standard for bidding on loot in the past |
| 17:56.36 | Azurewrath | Xuerian: yes. |
| 17:56.41 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: wut |
| 17:57.03 | ramoz | gold killing points? |
| 17:57.05 | ramoz | woo |
| 17:57.10 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: BT4 doesn't work because it wants you to use flexbar |
| 17:57.13 | Primer | Xuerian: you're probably talking about people that have so much gold and are so bored that 50k isn't a big deal |
| 17:57.28 | Xuerian | ramoz: Sounds like a zero-sum dkp system that forgoes a special point system and uses gold |
| 17:57.42 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: BUT WAI |
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| 17:57.58 | Azurewrath | i have like 13k only.. but what do i need gold for? Even a BT raid gives 60-90g profit these days... |
| 17:58.03 | cncfanatics | ramoz: more sounds like, YOU GIEV GOLDZ FOR LOOTZ |
| 17:58.16 | cncfanatics | Xuerian I mean |
| 17:58.25 | nevcairiel | i usually hang around 1k gold only because i am way too lazy to farm gold |
| 17:58.30 | shieldb | hmm, wau doesn't happen to keep backup revs of stuff it updates, does it? |
| 17:58.33 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: My way sounds better |
| 17:58.38 | Pkekyo| | seriously, how do I fix BT4? |
| 17:58.45 | Xuerian | Pkekyo|: voo-de-doo |
| 17:58.47 | Azurewrath | nevcairiel: sell vortexes and epic gems to randoms.. |
| 17:58.53 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: I supose you should ping nevcairielmore |
| 17:59.32 | Primer | wowwiki doesn't seem to have a comprehensive loot table for the sunwell trash |
| 17:59.58 | shieldb | I think I may be redoing my unitframes tonight since I was using a heavily modified version of p3lim's layout, but it looks like he committed it to the svn and it just overwrote my stuffs when I updated :| |
| 18:00.02 | shieldb | c'est la vie I suppose |
| 18:00.17 | Xuerian | shieldb: mkdir .svn ftw |
| 18:00.25 | shieldb | yeah I do that for most of my stuff |
| 18:00.39 | shieldb | I just wasn't aware that he added it to the svn since it was only on wowinterface previously |
| 18:00.49 | Xuerian | Surpriez updatez? |
| 18:00.58 | haste | enjoy your laziness! :3 |
| 18:01.13 | Xuerian | haste: You win the random award of the day, good sir |
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| 18:01.20 | nevcairiel | haste enjoys pelim related breakage |
| 18:01.32 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: PLINGALINGDINGDONG |
| 18:01.37 | p3lim | shieldb: I added it there cause i got lots of questions about diff files and so on, wowace seemed like the easiest and best way at the time |
| 18:01.40 | haste | nevcairiel: I enjoy people updating too much also |
| 18:02.07 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: what now? |
| 18:02.10 | shieldb | yeah it's more my fault for not renaming it or not adding a .svn or not checking what's on the svn before updating etc |
| 18:02.27 | Pkekyo| | BT4 not working :< |
| 18:02.30 | p3lim | get JWowUpdater |
| 18:02.31 | nevcairiel | WAU should keep track of addons in some config file |
| 18:02.37 | nevcairiel | and not just assume by the list of dirs :P |
| 18:02.42 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: works for me |
| 18:02.42 | p3lim | nevcairiel: thats also true |
| 18:02.47 | Pkekyo| | poop :< |
| 18:02.52 | nevcairiel | whats not working? |
| 18:03.07 | Pkekyo| | the entire BT4 thingie |
| 18:03.29 | nevcairiel | thats not really helpful |
| 18:03.40 | cncfanatics | WTS error message |
| 18:03.44 | cncfanatics | only 10k gold nevcairiel |
| 18:03.47 | Pkekyo| | trust me, I know...but there's not THAT many ways to explain that nothing happens |
| 18:04.01 | cncfanatics | framexml.log is helpfull Pkekyo| |
| 18:04.11 | Pkekyo| | which is found where, exactly? |
| 18:04.19 | cncfanatics | in the Logs folder |
| 18:04.19 | nevcairiel | well it works fine for me and for others, so i blame installation aka user failure |
| 18:04.21 | nevcairiel | WoW\Logs |
| 18:04.26 | Pkekyo| | I feel nerdy...103d played |
| 18:04.27 | Gagorian | [2008/05/21 20:23:15-3415-x1230]: Violation-1.0.74645\Violation.lua:988: attempt to concatenate global 'u' (a nil value) |
| 18:04.33 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: I didn't use it...WAU did :p |
| 18:04.37 | cncfanatics | heh, I have way more then that on all my chars combined Pkekyo| |
| 18:04.40 | NivFreak | Pkekyo|: my warriors is at ~123d =/ |
| 18:04.50 | Pkekyo| | zomg |
| 18:04.52 | Gagorian | 2008/05/21 20:24:38-3415-x697]: Violation-1.0.74645\Damage\DPS.lua:169: table index is nil |
| 18:04.57 | nevcairiel | my druid probably has over 200 |
| 18:05.00 | nevcairiel | too lazy to login now |
| 18:05.02 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: that's my one char |
| 18:05.14 | cncfanatics | I have 3 70s |
| 18:05.17 | cncfanatics | all are rerolls :p |
| 18:05.19 | CIA-42 | 03jerry * r74675 10Ratings/core.lua: Ratings: Don't show a percent sign for Expertise |
| 18:05.47 | Azurewrath | Pkekyo|: 278 days.. ;) |
| 18:05.52 | Xuerian | (I thought I played wow a lot...) |
| 18:05.58 | Pkekyo| | o.O' |
| 18:06.03 | CIA-42 | 03chinkuwaila * r74676 10Parrot/Locales/ParrotLocale-deDE.lua: |
| 18:06.03 | CIA-42 | ParrotLocale-deDE.lua: |
| 18:06.03 | CIA-42 | - fixed some typos |
| 18:06.11 | Pkekyo| | azure: you're coming up on a bloody year ingame o.O' |
| 18:06.16 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna count |
| 18:06.18 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: http://pkekyo.pastebin.org/37570 |
| 18:06.32 | Azurewrath | a year would would be 365 ;) |
| 18:06.34 | nevcairiel | i did count all my chars some time ago |
| 18:06.36 | Azurewrath | -would |
| 18:06.37 | nevcairiel | but i forgot |
| 18:07.01 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: whats with those (null) o.O |
| 18:07.12 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: no idea...you're the dev here! :p |
| 18:08.27 | ramoz | Hey, we should ask Xinhuan about his /played on his mage |
| 18:08.35 | ramoz | it wins, 4sure |
| 18:08.44 | nevcairiel | Hm i dont have any (null) in my log |
| 18:08.47 | nevcairiel | you must be broken! |
| 18:08.56 | cncfanatics | 39 days on my rogue, 45 days on pala, 104 days on mage :o |
| 18:09.32 | Azurewrath | the 278 days are on my mage.. my highest alt is lvl 36 or something though.. |
| 18:09.32 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: any lua errors on login? |
| 18:09.38 | nevcairiel | anything happening on /bt ? |
| 18:09.57 | cncfanatics | lua> 104+45+39 |
| 18:09.58 | lua_bot | cncfanatics: 188 |
| 18:10.08 | cncfanatics | 188 here, without bank alts, those don't really count though |
| 18:10.12 | cncfanatics | as they're afk when they're logged in |
| 18:10.21 | NivFreak | I'm usually /afk when logged in |
| 18:10.21 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 18:10.42 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: following here: (nothing happening on /bt, no) http://pkekyo.pastebin.org/37571 |
| 18:11.13 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: looks like you run no-externals but forgot to get Ace3 |
| 18:11.33 | nevcairiel | or hm |
| 18:11.58 | Pkekyo| | glares blankly into the monitor |
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| 18:12.38 | nevcairiel | does a clean checkout |
| 18:12.41 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: Ace3 is listed as Installed in WAU |
| 18:13.44 | nevcairiel | well those errors mean for whatever remote reason you lack AceEvent-3.0 |
| 18:14.09 | Hjalte | Someone should make a Statblocks_Guild module :) |
| 18:14.09 | Pkekyo| | so...reinstall Ace3? |
| 18:14.14 | CIA-42 | 03kurax * r74677 10ZOMGBuffs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ZOMGBuffs: Update zhCN locale |
| 18:14.29 | starlon | Hmm date() returns a formatted string. Is there one that returns a number in seconds? |
| 18:15.01 | starlon | time() maybe hmm |
| 18:16.04 | nevcairiel | lua> time() |
| 18:16.05 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'time' (a nil value) |
| 18:16.09 | nevcairiel | lua> os.time() |
| 18:16.09 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1211393769 |
| 18:16.14 | Pkekyo| | difference between w/wo externals? |
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| 18:18.41 | CIA-42 | 03tsigo 07Ace3 * r74678 10Cutup/Cutup.lua: Cutup: /cutup to open config instead of /cutup config |
| 18:34.04 | Vonhinten | this code just makes me want to smack the shit out of someone... out, i1, i2 = out + (b1 == b2 and 0 or power2[i-1]), i1-b1, i2-b2; |
| 18:36.12 | Pkekyo| | 291183 |
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| 18:36.14 | Pkekyo| | oops |
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| 18:36.25 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: any idea how I can add BT bars to Dash? |
| 18:36.35 | Pkekyo| | (bt4 magically started working btw) |
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| 18:36.41 | Xuerian | Pkekyo|: HAH |
| 18:36.43 | Xuerian | I WAS RIGHT |
| 18:36.53 | Xuerian | voo-de-doo <Nods> |
| 18:36.56 | Pkekyo| | ... |
| 18:37.26 | Xuerian | =O... [13:58] Xuerian: Pkekyo|: voo-de-doo |
| 18:38.00 | Pkekyo| | ... |
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| 18:39.40 | Vonhinten | am I missing some important thing here, why is the "and 0" portion even in here: out = out + (b1 == b2 and 0 or power2[i-1]) |
| 18:40.36 | Xuerian | if b1==b2 then out = 0 else out = power2[i-1] end ? |
| 18:41.11 | Vonhinten | doesn't true and 0 result in it evaluating the or? |
| 18:41.51 | Xuerian | Inline logic statements follow the ([condition] and [true] or [false]) format |
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| 18:42.16 | Xuerian | Read my if, it's the same thing |
| 18:44.03 | Vonhinten | Maybe I'm not picking it up here... |
| 18:44.53 | Vonhinten | how can 0 end the evaluation of that expression... false fails the 2nd requirement of logical and |
| 18:45.18 | Xuerian | are you missing the ==? |
| 18:45.26 | Xuerian | "and" ends the evaulation |
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| 18:47.56 | Vonhinten | this just doesn't make sense in my head.... in C++ bool b = true && false || true; results in the or being evaluated |
| 18:48.04 | Vonhinten | because both of the conditions of the and were not met |
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| 18:48.33 | [ztajl] | hello guys, could anyone tell me how to setup bartender4 |
| 18:48.50 | profalbert | ztajl /bt4 |
| 18:48.51 | Kazie | try /bt |
| 18:49.07 | Kazie | or /bt4 /bartender /bartender4 |
| 18:49.11 | Kazie | all works |
| 18:49.17 | [ztajl] | ahh lol i tried /bar,/bartender,/bartender 4 and nothing worked |
| 18:49.48 | [ztajl] | strange |
| 18:49.52 | Psycho|Work | FYI, /bartender 4 is the same as typing /bartender - slash commands don't have spaces. |
| 18:50.05 | profalbert | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.17 | Kazie | my mistake.. but the others do |
| 18:51.32 | Vonhinten | ok, I know why I don't understand it... it's because LUA was designed by a fucking retard |
| 18:51.34 | charon | Vonhinten: in lua 0 is true... so "cond and a or b" (= "(cond and a) or b") is basically "cond ? a : b" unless a is nil or false |
| 18:52.15 | Vonhinten | 0 is true... that just blows my mind |
| 18:52.49 | charon | well i can only suggest you get over it and move along. lua has some brain damage built into it, but so does C and especially C++ |
| 18:53.27 | Vonhinten | that's just... I can't even think of another language where 0 isn't false |
| 18:53.28 | charon | just remember: only nil and false are false. |
| 18:54.15 | Vonhinten | ok, I got it |
| 18:54.16 | Vonhinten | thanks |
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| 19:00.41 | CIA-42 | 03trasher * r74679 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 19:00.41 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:00.41 | CIA-42 | - frFR update |
| 19:02.12 | Pkekyo| | meh...should get to reading for my finals...meh :/ |
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| 19:09.22 | Xuerian | lua> print(0==true and "yes" or "no") |
| 19:09.23 | lua_bot | Xuerian: no |
| 19:09.33 | Xuerian | charon, Vonhinten, stop smoking |
| 19:09.47 | charon | ... |
| 19:10.00 | charon | lua> if 0 then print("yes") else print("no") end |
| 19:10.00 | lua_bot | charon: yes |
| 19:10.31 | Psycho|Work | Vonhinten: Scheme |
| 19:10.34 | Xuerian | lua> if 0==true then print("yes") else print("no") end |
| 19:10.34 | lua_bot | Xuerian: no |
| 19:10.50 | Psycho|Work | (= 0 #f) throws an error. |
| 19:11.18 | Psycho|Work | ... and that is because I'm retarded |
| 19:11.21 | Psycho|Work | And = is just for numbers. |
| 19:11.39 | Vonhinten | lua> if 0==false then print( "false" ) else print( "not false" ) end |
| 19:11.40 | lua_bot | Vonhinten: not false |
| 19:11.41 | Psycho|Work | THERE we go, (eqv? 0 #f) returns false. |
| 19:12.03 | Psycho|Work | So yeah, Scheme and I'd imagine LISP (though I haven't ever used it) as well. |
| 19:13.28 | Vonhinten | oh well, bad decisions are made every day |
| 19:14.19 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 19:14.43 | Xuerian | Vonhinten: I think you missed something, if you're still confused about inline statements. When stated as ([expression] and [action_if_true] or [action_if_false]), and is not boolean and, and is the ? in (true ? "yes" : "no"), comparing to say php. If you already got that,well then nevermind |
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| 19:15.54 | Vonhinten | I understand that LUA decided to turn a perfectly understandable ?: syntax into a perfectly illogical and/or syntax |
| 19:16.33 | Xuerian | Vonhinten: If all you are arguing is that it was a bad choice of words, well, I'll agree. [expression] then [iftrue] else [iffalse] would be better |
| 19:17.23 | cncfanatics | Vonhinten: they just didn't onclude the ?: syntax and people found an alternative |
| 19:18.05 | Xuerian | As far as 0 evaluating to true, well sure, It's odd depending on what you're coming from, but if you think about it, 0 evaluating to false is fuzzy and possibly problem-causing |
| 19:18.34 | Vonhinten | I'm frustrated at a lot of things... people writing stupid multi-assignments for no good reason other than to shorten the code vertical, on top of the silly lua syntax and 0 not being false... |
| 19:18.37 | Snago | it's the lazy boolean evaluation raped until it does what ?: does |
| 19:19.00 | Xuerian | Vonhinten: Some people call it stupid, some people call it art |
| 19:19.09 | Xuerian | I take joy in inline logic statements, merely because it confuses people |
| 19:19.12 | Vonhinten | Some people shit on a wall and call it art |
| 19:19.34 | Xuerian | Vonhinten: And some people believe they know the only way code should be written, and call themselves right |
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| 19:20.06 | Xuerian | If anything Lua is a language of choice |
| 19:20.12 | RaydenUni | ALL of the good quest gear is from chains 20 long it seems |
| 19:20.29 | Vonhinten | If there's one thing I've found, it's that no matter how clever you think you are with code.. 6 months later you'll go back and look at it, and say to yourself "What in the holy fuck did I do that for... this doesn't make sense" |
| 19:20.47 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: Isn't it though? I just did three chains about 10 quests long for a few pieces of armor that were best-before-epics |
| 19:21.07 | RaydenUni | i'm looking at 69 gear for pvp |
| 19:21.12 | RaydenUni | looking at nterhstorm and shadowmoon |
| 19:21.19 | RaydenUni | it's all Cipher of Damnation and stuff |
| 19:21.25 | Xuerian | Vonhinten: That's a perfectly astute observation for yourself, and I'm sure that it's true for many people. Not everyone, though |
| 19:21.34 | Xuerian | RaydenUni: haha, I still haven't finished that quest |
| 19:21.36 | Xuerian | Good luck not leveling up |
| 19:21.40 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 19:21.42 | RaydenUni | it's an issue |
| 19:21.44 | Psycho|Work | I would say that Vonhinten's observation holds for the majority of people. |
| 19:21.48 | RaydenUni | i'm going to try and do gorefiend |
| 19:22.11 | Psycho|Work | But then, that's just a subjective judgement based on what I've seen. |
| 19:22.18 | RaydenUni | the thing is if i do pvp at 69 i wont' be earning any gear to use right away |
| 19:22.28 | Xuerian | Psycho|Work: It does, I'll agree. It even holds up for me with a slight modification, I enjoy going back and seeing how I wrote things. Confusing code, so long as I've written it, is personally fun to read |
| 19:22.33 | RaydenUni | so i gotta get it all beforehand |
| 19:22.37 | Psycho|Work | lol |
| 19:22.42 | Xuerian | Now, other people can write shit that I can't wrap my head around with the jaws of life |
| 19:22.53 | Xuerian | But I wasn't the one writing it, so it's perfectly reasonable |
| 19:22.57 | Psycho|Work | I worked on this project in college for a research group. |
| 19:23.03 | Psycho|Work | Was my first foray into a lot of the things I did. |
| 19:23.11 | Psycho|Work | Probably could go back and re-write it now and make it a thousand times better. |
| 19:23.40 | Psycho|Work | But recently, I met up with one of my college profs and found out that not only are they still using my code, they want to make it a part of this massive network simulation software's new version. |
| 19:23.46 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 19:23.46 | Psycho|Work | I don't know how that decision got made. |
| 19:24.09 | Psycho|Work | But it was funny. |
| 19:24.11 | Xuerian | "No.... Just, no. No." |
| 19:24.27 | Psycho|Work | "Sweet Jesus, you've unleashed pandora's box upon the world of networking!" |
| 19:24.39 | Xuerian | Haha |
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| 19:26.33 | kenlyric | all our packets are belong to you |
| 19:26.50 | Snago | I made some "lottery random numbers picker" for my dad about 12 years ago when I first started programming.. Last week when talking on the phone he asked me if there was a new version since it wouldn't run since he upgraded to vista. |
| 19:27.11 | Snago | I was like, wft, you still use that?! |
| 19:27.40 | kenlyric | only a human would try something for 12 years that didn't work and keep using it |
| 19:28.05 | Snago | he didn't upgrade to vista 12 years ago :P |
| 19:28.20 | kenlyric | no, I mean the lottery picker itself |
| 19:28.29 | kenlyric | obviously it hasn't won him the jackpot |
| 19:28.51 | kenlyric | I'm calling this computer |
| 19:28.52 | Snago | hehe, no, not yet ;P |
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| 19:52.18 | PsG-1 | Anyone know if AceHook is really different between v1 and v3.0? |
| 19:54.02 | Funkeh` | I bet a comparison program knows |
| 19:54.34 | chewsocks | can you do ors with macro conditions like [combat] or [harm] |
| 19:54.53 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 19:55.03 | nevcairiel | [combat][harm] |
| 19:55.05 | nevcairiel | is or |
| 19:55.08 | nevcairiel | [combat, harm] |
| 19:55.09 | nevcairiel | is and |
| 19:55.31 | Vonhinten | lua> local a = string.char(0); local b = ""; b = b .. a .. "blah"; print( tostring(b:len()) ); |
| 19:55.32 | lua_bot | Vonhinten: 5 |
| 19:55.55 | chewsocks | thanks nevcairiel |
| 19:56.00 | Vonhinten | lua> local a = string.char(0); local b = ""; b = b .. a .. "blah"; print( b ); |
| 19:56.01 | lua_bot | Vonhinten: |
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| 20:00.12 | Vonhinten | lua> local a = ""; local b = true and a:len() or 123; print( b ); |
| 20:00.13 | lua_bot | Vonhinten: 0 |
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| 20:12.02 | Xuerian | De-tach-able de-tach-able de-tach-able peeeenis.. |
| 20:16.41 | syeren | De-tach-a-ble |
| 20:16.43 | syeren | :p |
| 20:16.56 | CIA-42 | 03Shot * r74680 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua: |
| 20:16.56 | CIA-42 | DoIKnowYou: |
| 20:16.56 | CIA-42 | - nil name error fix (hopefully) |
| 20:16.56 | CIA-42 | - data source count made more effective |
| 20:17.16 | Xuerian | syeren: My point was conveyed quite clearly, I believe :P |
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| 20:22.27 | aestil | why doesn't threat 2.0 recgonize pet resists etc? |
| 20:23.48 | Funkeh` | we don't like classes with pets |
| 20:24.36 | Vulcanus | stupid hunters shouldn't do enough damage to matter |
| 20:24.53 | Funkeh` | hunters that pull agro = lol |
| 20:24.53 | aestil | ok first of all, get better hunters, and put them in a group with SP |
| 20:25.01 | aestil | secondly, i'm grinidng with my pet |
| 20:25.10 | Vulcanus | You do realise we're taking the piss right |
| 20:25.11 | Vulcanus | :p |
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| 20:25.27 | Antiarc | The pet module is pretty underdeveloped |
| 20:25.36 | Antiarc | Also, the Deadened thread is rapidly becoming a favorite of mine. |
| 20:25.42 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3913731664&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 20:26.00 | Vulcanus | dammit I forgot how to do an initial commit to the svn :( |
| 20:26.03 | aestil | it doesn't recognize a torment resist on a VW |
| 20:26.09 | aestil | or a growl resist on pet |
| 20:28.08 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Ahhhhh, duchebags |
| 20:28.18 | Chompers | deadened sounds really good |
| 20:28.21 | Antiarc | This guy has a platinum douchebag subscription, apparently. |
| 20:28.22 | Chompers | i might be doing RoS soon |
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| 20:28.25 | Chompers | so horay! |
| 20:28.38 | Antiarc | Chompers: Be sure to bill me for your repairs when it screw your raid over and makes you all wipe. |
| 20:28.53 | chewsocks | is xperl good? |
| 20:29.05 | Chompers | ;) |
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| 20:29.20 | Chompers | i'll blame it on the first person druid, then you |
| 20:29.23 | NeoTron | Antiarc: do you know if Threat handles soul shatter resists correctly yet? |
| 20:29.28 | Antiarc | It should. |
| 20:30.38 | Antiarc | Am I being unnecessarily abrasive there? |
| 20:30.47 | Antiarc | Because I know I'm being snippy, but the guy kinda deserves it. |
| 20:31.09 | hypetech | ? |
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| 20:31.23 | hypetech | oh thread |
| 20:31.24 | NeoTron | yes you should have said more than "It should.". I m heavily offended |
| 20:31.32 | NeoTron | >:-) |
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| 20:32.23 | hypetech | " horrible design. it blocks spirit shock by default. you owe me and my guild 100g for the wipe. Im never touching this mod again." haha. what a dick. funny it works for the other X-thousand rogues using it |
| 20:32.37 | chewsocks | or is there some UI i can get that looks like xperl but works better? |
| 20:32.38 | Antiarc | Yeah, that was kinda my point. |
| 20:32.56 | Antiarc | Be sure to check out his code he posted on page 2. |
| 20:33.12 | Antiarc | Horrible global abuse and indenting that appears to be completely random |
| 20:33.15 | Antiarc | It's pretty sweet. |
| 20:34.18 | Antiarc | http://pastey.net/88175 |
| 20:35.08 | Vonhinten | if you turn it on its side, it _almost_ resembles a warglaive... that counts for something I guess |
| 20:35.19 | NeoTron | so apparently a spider has decided to take up residence inside my projection tv |
| 20:35.27 | Antiarc | NeoTron: robots.txt |
| 20:35.36 | NeoTron | just behind the screen, hanging around (and blowing as if it's windy in there) |
| 20:35.51 | hypetech | lol |
| 20:36.36 | Vulcanus | lmfao antiarc |
| 20:36.41 | NeoTron | two words describe it well: freaky and distraction |
| 20:37.02 | Vulcanus | put a piece of paper inside the TV that says deny-all |
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| 20:40.30 | CIA-42 | 03belazor * r74681 10FuBar_InstanceInfoFu/ (16 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:40.30 | CIA-42 | FuBar_InstanceInfoFu: |
| 20:40.30 | CIA-42 | - Initial import |
| 20:40.43 | Vulcanus | 5 silver says I messed up the embeds.xml on that one |
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| 20:41.40 | NeoTron | Antiarc: wow his deadenblocker is.. err. yeah |
| 20:42.00 | NeoTron | I especially like his debugging. that one is hot |
| 20:42.13 | Antiarc | Yeah, that was awesome |
| 20:42.30 | Antiarc | Also, go go english-only. |
| 20:42.38 | Antiarc | I wish Blizzard would give us spell IDs :( |
| 20:43.12 | NeoTron | best of all is that he does shit every time anything and anuone starts casting a spell |
| 20:43.19 | CIA-42 | 03xbeeps * r74682 10/branches/LibTotemTracker-1.0/LibTotemTracker-1.0.lua: |
| 20:43.19 | CIA-42 | LibTotemTracker-1.0: |
| 20:43.19 | CIA-42 | - More extensive arguments on callbacks. |
| 20:43.51 | NeoTron | I am now suitably brain damaged from that code that I need to go drool starting at a wall for a while |
| 20:44.31 | CIA-42 | 03belazor * r74683 10FuBar_InstanceInfoFu/: |
| 20:44.31 | CIA-42 | FuBar_InstanceInfoFu: |
| 20:44.31 | CIA-42 | - Set Log Template and Externals |
| 20:45.01 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: welcome to 90 |
| 20:45.07 | [Ammo] | 90% of the wowace svn |
| 20:45.25 | Snago | That code is "special" indeed |
| 20:45.39 | Snago | I hate when ppl mix tabs and spaces for indentation |
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| 20:46.13 | hypetech | What's so bad about mixing tabs and spaces? |
| 20:46.31 | [Ammo] | usually a sign someone copy pasted stuff together |
| 20:46.39 | Aerr | Beats me |
| 20:47.17 | CIA-42 | 03belazor * r74684 10FuBar_InstanceInfoFu/: |
| 20:47.17 | CIA-42 | FuBar_InstanceInfoFu: |
| 20:47.17 | CIA-42 | - Yep, Tablet-2.0 is a special and unique snowflake when it comes to folder structure :( |
| 20:47.24 | NeoTron | emacs, by default, uses a mix |
| 20:47.30 | Vulcanus | I always fix spaces to tabs when I copypaste stuff :p |
| 20:47.39 | NeoTron | it's not weird. only weird if you use tabstop ~= 8 which is evil anyway |
| 20:47.52 | [Ammo] | I use a 4 char tab |
| 20:47.52 | chewsocks | is xperl good? or is there a better addon that look similar i should use? |
| 20:48.00 | Vulcanus | xperl is good yes |
| 20:48.06 | Snago | Ctrl-A, tab, shift-tab in Notepad++ will fix it ;) |
| 20:48.10 | NeoTron | CoH => 8 second cooldown in WotLK |
| 20:48.22 | NeoTron | also though.. it's no longer limited by party |
| 20:48.30 | CIA-42 | 03xbeeps * r74685 10ParrotOnFire/ (. ParrotOnFire.lua ParrotOnFire.toc embeds.xml): |
| 20:48.30 | CIA-42 | ParrotOnFire: |
| 20:48.30 | CIA-42 | - Adds totem damage events to Parrot |
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| 20:48.35 | Vulcanus | so its like holy nova only ..not? |
| 20:48.46 | Snago | my tab is 4 spaces wide as well |
| 20:49.26 | NeoTron | Vulcanus: no.. it's a raid-wide AoE hea |
| 20:49.28 | NeoTron | heal |
| 20:49.36 | Vulcanus | ooh |
| 20:49.43 | NeoTron | Snago: so you're the evil one. do not mess with tab. tab is 8 spaces. period. |
| 20:49.49 | Vulcanus | thatll bury shamans as aoe healers XD |
| 20:49.52 | NeoTron | no |
| 20:49.57 | Vulcanus | or well multiple target healers |
| 20:49.58 | NeoTron | because it has an 8 second cooldown |
| 20:50.00 | TheySeeMeRollin | heretics |
| 20:50.04 | TheySeeMeRollin | 8 spaces it is |
| 20:50.22 | Snago | 8 spaces tabs makes code wiiiiide |
| 20:50.25 | NeoTron | no |
| 20:50.27 | Vulcanus | cooldown schmooldown |
| 20:50.38 | Snago | yes |
| 20:50.40 | NeoTron | Snago: no. you use spaces and/or a mix of space/tab |
| 20:50.46 | NeoTron | and an editor that can idnent smartly |
| 20:50.57 | NeoTron | using 8 spaces for indent is wrong too |
| 20:51.01 | NeoTron | I use 2-4 typically |
| 20:51.04 | Dashkal | I indent my code at 2 spaces... But tabsize should always be 8, even (especially) when mixing |
| 20:51.09 | Vulcanus | 4 spaces, end of discussion |
| 20:51.17 | Vulcanus | </thread> |
| 20:51.21 | Snago | mix!? you are the evil one! |
| 20:51.24 | NeoTron | basically indent ~= tabsize |
| 20:51.40 | [Ammo] | I indent with tabs an let the editor sort out how wide it shows em |
| 20:51.44 | TheySeeMeRollin | http://www.llbit.se/upload//linux-c-style.htm |
| 20:51.44 | TheySeeMeRollin | "There are heretic movements that try to make indentations 4" ~Linux kernel coding style |
| 20:51.48 | [Ammo] | usually set mine to 4 |
| 20:51.49 | NeoTron | if you need to adjust tabsize to indent correctly, 1) others will see your code indented like crap, 2) you're using an editor that doesn't indent smartly |
| 20:52.38 | NeoTron | I go to a line and press tab, any point on the line, and it's indented correctly |
| 20:52.47 | CIA-42 | 03xbeeps * r74686 10ParrotOnFire/ (. Libs/): |
| 20:52.47 | CIA-42 | ParrotOnFire: |
| 20:52.47 | CIA-42 | - Add externals and SVN properties. |
| 20:52.48 | NeoTron | I don't go to the start of th eline and pres tab X times to get it right |
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| 20:52.51 | CIA-42 | 03saroz * r74687 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesHealing.lua): |
| 20:52.51 | CIA-42 | sRaidFrames: |
| 20:52.51 | CIA-42 | - Update heal amount when heals end |
| 20:52.51 | CIA-42 | - Update heals on modifier change |
| 20:52.52 | Snago | NeoTron: If you consistently use tabs to indent others can use whatever tabwidth they want and still see the code indented properly |
| 20:53.01 | charon | i indent my code at the finbonacci numbers ... means the ratio between further indents converges to golden ratio, which looks especially nice. |
| 20:53.03 | NeoTron | Snago: except tab with is 8. period. |
| 20:53.06 | NeoTron | there's no variation |
| 20:53.21 | CIA-42 | 03xbeeps * r74688 10ParrotOnFire/Libs/: |
| 20:53.21 | CIA-42 | ParrotOnFire: |
| 20:53.21 | CIA-42 | - Fix wrong external include point. |
| 20:53.22 | [Ammo] | boggle |
| 20:53.27 | [Ammo] | just use tab |
| 20:53.33 | [Ammo] | and never spaces |
| 20:53.39 | [Ammo] | and it's a moot point :) |
| 20:54.27 | NeoTron | no. |
| 20:54.33 | NeoTron | i don't want my indentation to be 8 per step |
| 20:54.37 | NeoTron | which is what happens if you use tab |
| 20:54.48 | Snago | not if you set tabwidth to 4 :P |
| 20:54.50 | NeoTron | since tab is 8 spaces in size. always. |
| 20:54.55 | NeoTron | but that's a broken concept |
| 20:54.59 | MoonWolf | no it is not |
| 20:55.06 | NeoTron | use spaces all the time and it doesn't matter how you configure your editor |
| 20:55.07 | MoonWolf | that is completly up to the editor in question |
| 20:55.18 | vithos | ~seen nymbia |
| 20:55.22 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 22h 19m 45s ago, saying: 'i think ill go name some critical functions that and then complain when other addons break them'. |
| 20:55.22 | MoonWolf | wait |
| 20:55.22 | NeoTron | yes, broken editors allows broken indentation by changing tab |
| 20:55.22 | CIA-42 | 03xbeeps * r74689 10ParrotOnFire/ParrotOnFire.lua: |
| 20:55.22 | CIA-42 | ParrotOnFire: |
| 20:55.22 | CIA-42 | - Fix typo |
| 20:55.28 | MoonWolf | i got caught in a spaces vs tabs discussion again didn' t i? |
| 20:55.33 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: you're talking out of your ass |
| 20:55.34 | Snago | If you use tabs all the time ppl can set their tabwidth to whatever they want |
| 20:55.35 | [Ammo] | haha moonwolf |
| 20:55.39 | Saroz | NeoTron, magictargets, if you set it to grow upwards, the anchor is placed wrong when you reloadUI |
| 20:55.40 | [Ammo] | yeah you did |
| 20:55.45 | Dashkal | Eh, you want fun? I've had to work on C code that had different sections of the same source file in mixed tab/spaces and the tabsize is different by section... |
| 20:55.52 | MoonWolf | tab > spaces , i'm done. |
| 20:56.00 | [Ammo] | I'm with moonwolf |
| 20:56.01 | vithos | any Quartz maintainers around? |
| 20:56.03 | [Ammo] | just because he's dutch |
| 20:56.04 | NeoTron | Saroz: I presume that's because of changes ni libbars that I haven't accounted for |
| 20:56.04 | Dashkal | So setting it to 4 made one chunk work, setting it to 8 made another |
| 20:56.12 | DARKGuy | 3 spaces = the win, period :P. |
| 20:56.20 | NeoTron | use spaces and you NEVER have an issue |
| 20:56.22 | Saroz | NeoTron, oh, thought it was cause the placement was saved incorrectly |
| 20:56.24 | NeoTron | using tab is inviting problems |
| 20:56.41 | NeoTron | Saroz: which might be because libbars does things differently not |
| 20:56.43 | NeoTron | now |
| 20:56.45 | TheySeeMeRollin | tab was made for indentation... while space was made for... space |
| 20:56.51 | TheySeeMeRollin | use tab tbh |
| 20:56.55 | NeoTron | I press tab |
| 20:56.57 | NeoTron | my editor indents |
| 20:57.01 | NeoTron | 2 step per level |
| 20:57.17 | DARKGuy | I always favored tab, until I had to see the same code in another machine with another editor, and EW. |
| 20:57.24 | [Ammo] | remind me to send a small nuke to your editors author |
| 20:57.38 | TNZe | so why is omen so fantastically broken atm? |
| 20:57.41 | [Ammo] | oh and another thing |
| 20:57.47 | hypetech | TNZe: ? what's wrong with it? |
| 20:57.48 | [Ammo] | don't ever touch my addons with your editor |
| 20:57.54 | Dashkal | That's pretty common. All editors I use have the tab key mean one intendation. (Whatever that's configured to mean) |
| 20:57.56 | DARKGuy | And I was working with friends on a project, and everyone used different editors with different tab sizes |
| 20:57.59 | DARKGuy | that was insane. |
| 20:58.02 | TNZe | hypetech, it doesnt show threat correctly |
| 20:58.04 | Aerr | Darkguy, that 68 that we took through hyjal hit 70 finally |
| 20:58.05 | hypetech | ... |
| 20:58.10 | hypetech | TNZe: helpful |
| 20:58.17 | TNZe | people with newest versions are taking aggro even tho they are <90% |
| 20:58.19 | [Ammo] | tab should indent with one \t |
| 20:58.24 | TNZe | hunter, shadowpriest, mages |
| 20:58.29 | DARKGuy | Aerr: sweet :D 70 in that only instance? |
| 20:58.31 | TNZe | and tanks have newest too |
| 20:58.32 | [Ammo] | any editor that doesn't isn't a valid editor |
| 20:58.33 | Dashkal | In text editors, yes. In code editors, not anymore. |
| 20:58.42 | Aerr | lol no |
| 20:58.43 | hypetech | TNZe: is that just as of today? It's been working fine for us |
| 20:58.51 | TNZe | no, entire week |
| 20:58.53 | Aerr | but he hit 70 and was able to use Cat's edge for ret! |
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| 20:59.11 | DARKGuy | yay :D |
| 20:59.14 | Psycho|Work | It's weird that so many people are saying that about omen, I ran myself up to 125% on Gorefiend last night and didn't pull. Wonder what's broken. At least warlocks aren't =P |
| 20:59.30 | NeoTron | DARKGuy: which is why the right solution is to use space + smart editor that indents with one keypress regardless of level and location |
| 20:59.48 | DARKGuy | NeoTron: true |
| 20:59.51 | hypetech | Ya I've been abusing 115-120% this week just playing with new gear and haven't had an issue |
| 20:59.59 | DARKGuy | I always tell Notepad++ to use 3 spaces when I press tab, so it's all happy. |
| 21:00.00 | hypetech | I haven't seen/heard of anybody pulling while showing 90% |
| 21:00.06 | NeoTron | hypetech: I have |
| 21:00.22 | CIA-42 | 03dodge * r74690 10CoolDownButtons/Locales/ (enUS.lua koKR.lua zhCN.lua): |
| 21:00.22 | CIA-42 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 21:00.22 | CIA-42 | - added zhCN translation |
| 21:00.23 | [Ammo] | DARKGuy: don't ever touch my addons |
| 21:00.31 | hypetech | are you sure they're using the newest version of threat as well as the newest version of omen? |
| 21:00.33 | DARKGuy | [Ammo]: why :( |
| 21:00.39 | TNZe | hypetech thats the problem, omen seems to have an issue at the moment that seems random, I think you just need to break network compatibility on it to force everyone to upgrade |
| 21:00.40 | NeoTron | hypetech: feral druid tank, FR gear on elemental @ Illidan. Pulled aggro with threat below tank. Likewise with quite a few others in the raid |
| 21:00.52 | Dashkal | wtb good auto-formatter for lua |
| 21:00.54 | [Ammo] | your editor settings are flawed, tab = \t space = space |
| 21:01.08 | Dashkal | shift-alt-f and everything is pretty :p |
| 21:01.09 | NeoTron | you're mixing up "tab" and "indentation" |
| 21:01.12 | DARKGuy | at least the code looks the same everywhere |
| 21:01.26 | Vonhinten | spaces for tabs is the most heinous setting you could possibly enable |
| 21:01.34 | Baraius | When you get done be sure to argue about braces... |
| 21:01.34 | TheySeeMeRollin | that's what tab was _made_ for |
| 21:01.42 | NeoTron | in code it's flawed |
| 21:01.43 | Snago | one tab = one level of indentation |
| 21:01.45 | MoonWolf | DARKGuy, cause it doesn't convert to how I want the code to look in my editor |
| 21:01.51 | Starinnia | can we argue about semicolons next? |
| 21:01.52 | NeoTron | you cannot indent using something that depends on a client defined parameter |
| 21:01.52 | CIA-42 | 03dodge * r74691 10CoolDownButtons/CoolDownButtons.toc: |
| 21:01.53 | CIA-42 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 21:01.53 | CIA-42 | - new local missing in toc :) |
| 21:01.53 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r74692 10CoolDownButtons/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:01.53 | CIA-42 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 21:01.55 | CIA-42 | - added zhCN translation |
| 21:02.00 | NeoTron | it's ok if it's just you ever touchnig it |
| 21:02.03 | MoonWolf | a tab can be made to display as many spaces as i wan it too |
| 21:02.07 | MoonWolf | spaces, not so much |
| 21:02.12 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: ofcourse you can, that's what tab is for |
| 21:02.18 | NeoTron | no |
| 21:02.20 | DARKGuy | well yeah, spaces are fixed |
| 21:02.25 | DARKGuy | but that's why you use ident conventions |
| 21:02.30 | DARKGuy | *indent |
| 21:02.36 | NeoTron | you can not in a real situation force people to "change" tab to fit your view of how the code should be aligned |
| 21:02.40 | MoonWolf | you don't need conventions |
| 21:02.43 | MoonWolf | cause you have tabs |
| 21:02.45 | NeoTron | in a single person development environment sure |
| 21:02.47 | MoonWolf | a convention is a crutch |
| 21:02.54 | NeoTron | MoonWolf: if tab size is not well defined, it fails |
| 21:02.57 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: wtf are yo talking about |
| 21:02.57 | Snago | With tabs I can have 4 space indent and you can have 2 space indent in the same code, zomg! |
| 21:03.02 | DARKGuy | NeoTron: is true |
| 21:03.03 | [Ammo] | one indentation = one indentation |
| 21:03.07 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 21:03.12 | DARKGuy | *that's |
| 21:03.12 | NeoTron | If I look at your code ammo, I get a fucked up 8 space indentation mess |
| 21:03.12 | MoonWolf | unless you are doing rather weird stuff |
| 21:03.15 | [Ammo] | there is no variable indentation |
| 21:03.24 | chewsocks | nshakedown lets me move smoothdurability anyone know something that would let me move smoothquest? |
| 21:03.30 | TheySeeMeRollin | grab your handbags fellas |
| 21:03.34 | [Ammo] | thats because your editor is a retard app from shitecountry |
| 21:03.38 | TheySeeMeRollin | lets see some action! |
| 21:03.42 | [Ammo] | really.. |
| 21:03.49 | DARKGuy | Yeah |
| 21:03.51 | NeoTron | you redefine soemthing to fit your need and, unless others comply to your desired definition, they get code indented as a fugly mess |
| 21:03.51 | DARKGuy | let's all use emacs. |
| 21:03.57 | MoonWolf | i'm sure kergoth would have a hayday with this discussion |
| 21:04.11 | Baraius | Braces next? Please? |
| 21:04.18 | Baraius | Then vim vs. emacs. |
| 21:04.21 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: no, they get it indented the way they're used to |
| 21:04.27 | vithos | chewsocks: you can move smoothdurability by itself, but i don't use smoothquest |
| 21:04.28 | NeoTron | no they don't |
| 21:04.31 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: unless you use different indentation on a per line basis |
| 21:04.36 | hypetech | I'm just going to get an SVN account and go re-indent everyone's code out of spite :p |
| 21:04.41 | [Ammo] | lets indent if's with 3 chars and whiles with 4 |
| 21:04.43 | NeoTron | code indented for 2 characters looks like crap with 8 |
| 21:04.44 | Funkeh` | [Ammo], nice choice of words |
| 21:04.51 | CIA-42 | 03belazor * r74693 10FuBar_InstanceInfoFu/FuBar_InstanceInfoFu.toc: |
| 21:04.51 | CIA-42 | FuBar_InstanceInfoFu: |
| 21:04.51 | CIA-42 | - Small booboo in the ToC |
| 21:04.58 | Funkeh` | a retard app from shitecountry |
| 21:05.11 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: that's a matter of opinion |
| 21:05.16 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: some people like 8 char indent |
| 21:05.20 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: some like 2 char |
| 21:05.20 | NeoTron | and it's not unusual to have variable indentation - like for example "case" being half-indented (I don't do that but just saying) |
| 21:05.22 | chewsocks | vithos: how do you move it by itself? |
| 21:05.26 | MoonWolf | personally i'm a 4 person. |
| 21:05.27 | vithos | which reminds me... [Ammo]: smoothdurability needs to show minimum durability % instead of average, or at least have an option. my bow is usually 20% lower than everything else |
| 21:05.28 | [Ammo] | and with tab = everyone happy |
| 21:05.32 | DARKGuy | that's just ew. |
| 21:05.34 | NeoTron | no |
| 21:05.43 | NeoTron | because a tab stop of 2 would be fucking useless in general |
| 21:05.56 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: useless to YOU |
| 21:05.58 | NeoTron | with SPACE everyone is happy because the code is displayed as the author intended, regardless of the editor |
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| 21:06.03 | Snago | except people who thinks tab should be 8 spaces "just because" |
| 21:06.11 | vithos | chewsocks: unlock it and drag it |
| 21:06.14 | DARKGuy | NeoTron is kinda true though... |
| 21:06.17 | Funkeh` | just because, biatch |
| 21:06.19 | NeoTron | change tab do 4 |
| 21:06.30 | NeoTron | other case |
| 21:06.41 | DARKGuy | SVN should indent code as soon as you upload it |
| 21:06.41 | NeoTron | if you use tab to indent AND to line stuff up (like comments for example) |
| 21:06.46 | DARKGuy | So nobody would whine :P |
| 21:06.47 | NeoTron | and I then use tap stop of 3 |
| 21:06.50 | NeoTron | nothing will line up |
| 21:06.56 | NeoTron | thus code => look like mess |
| 21:06.57 | Snago | Lineup is a different subject |
| 21:07.00 | NeoTron | same problem |
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| 21:07.14 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: bullshit but shrug |
| 21:07.15 | DARKGuy | I've lived that |
| 21:07.21 | DARKGuy | it plain sucks |
| 21:07.23 | Dashkal | having tabstops at anything other than 8 makes tabs that aren't at the beginning of a line a nightmare |
| 21:07.28 | DARKGuy | I used to use tabs to line up my multiline comments... |
| 21:07.31 | DARKGuy | ew. |
| 21:07.37 | Dashkal | because it forces anybody who looks at the code to have the same tabstop |
| 21:07.37 | NeoTron | and in REAL LIFE it's very common to get code that has a mix of tab and space with some custom defined tab size |
| 21:07.41 | Snago | for lineups I use tabs up to the "base" indent level then space to make it line up |
| 21:07.41 | NeoTron | and it's just broken |
| 21:07.54 | TheySeeMeRollin | why do you even bother lining up comments? its not some kind of ascii art |
| 21:07.58 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: I've lived the real life long enough :) |
| 21:08.00 | DARKGuy | Snago: that's what I've been doing :D |
| 21:08.02 | NeoTron | and it happens regardless of what ideal world yuou live in when several people, especially through code generations, edit the same files |
| 21:08.05 | Dashkal | TheySeeMeRollin: Makes them easier to read |
| 21:08.14 | Sedine | can anyone here possibly help me with a grid problem or is this just for room just for coding? |
| 21:08.15 | TheySeeMeRollin | not really :/ |
| 21:08.16 | DARKGuy | TheySeeMeRollin: comments are art :D |
| 21:08.18 | NeoTron | TheySeeMeRollin: neat code is good |
| 21:08.26 | [Ammo] | Sedine: what is your problem |
| 21:08.38 | Sedine | my guild couldn't get it to show raid debuff last night |
| 21:08.39 | NeoTron | Sedine: this is the indentation discussion room |
| 21:08.41 | Dashkal | TheySeeMeRollin: It's often a good thing to put a comment after a line of code. If that comment is multi-line, they later lines need to line up |
| 21:08.43 | DARKGuy | rofl |
| 21:08.43 | Sedine | on burn for brut |
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| 21:08.59 | Dashkal | I try to avoid that case, though. If it becomes multi-line I just move the whole thing above the line being commented |
| 21:09.27 | NeoTron | that said though, people that use TAB fot indentation typically indent manually while ppl that uses SPACE let the editor do it for them |
| 21:09.32 | Sedine | we haven't had that problem before but for some reason it has stopped showing just raid debuffs, still shows magic/curse/poison/etc fine t hough |
| 21:09.57 | Sedine | me and the other burn healer both experienced it |
| 21:10.01 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: and that is bullshit again :) |
| 21:10.02 | TheySeeMeRollin | I'm gonna be bold here and say that excessive comments dont serve a purpose |
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| 21:10.14 | Dashkal | Excessive is context-dependant |
| 21:10.27 | Snago | TheySeeMeRollin: excessive comment is excessive |
| 21:10.35 | Dashkal | If you have a complex algorithm that isn't obvious but is well tuned for performance, a comment properly describing it is a good thing |
| 21:10.48 | DARKGuy | true |
| 21:11.04 | DARKGuy | not just "this algorithm makes pink ponies" |
| 21:11.04 | Dashkal | Happens in OnUpdate code all the time... |
| 21:11.22 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: That is what I've experienced in the past 12 yrs as a programmer |
| 21:11.26 | Dashkal | I've been known to put the complete un-optomized version of the code in a comment above it |
| 21:11.47 | Dashkal | multi-line comments ftw :p |
| 21:12.43 | Dashkal | Sadly, I had to stop that when I started using my IDE to format my comments for me :p |
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| 21:12.59 | Dashkal | So now it's a detailed (text) description of that that mess below does and why it looks so terrible |
| 21:13.14 | CIA-42 | 03belazor * r74694 10FuBar_InstanceInfoFu/FuBar_InstanceInfoFu.toc: |
| 21:13.14 | CIA-42 | FuBar_InstanceInfoFu: |
| 21:13.14 | CIA-42 | - Revision keyword on ToC file. |
| 21:13.40 | Sedine | any idea about grid or who could help me? |
| 21:13.43 | chewsocks | [Ammo]: is it possible to move smoothquest? |
| 21:13.58 | [Ammo] | chewsocks: smoothquest has no screen presence |
| 21:14.08 | [Ammo] | it modifies the coloring of default blizzard elements |
| 21:14.10 | FtH|Daemona | Antiarc mobspells dropdown selector for npc / spell is broken :/ |
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| 21:15.03 | Greg_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.18 | DARKGuy | sure |
| 21:15.22 | Greg_ | just a sec. |
| 21:15.27 | Greg_ | http://www.nybegynder.net/WiP.jpg |
| 21:15.30 | Greg_ | thanks |
| 21:15.32 | [Ammo] | Greg_: probably not, they're all quite similar in appearance |
| 21:15.45 | [Ammo] | yup it's barmod18 |
| 21:15.50 | Greg_ | thanks |
| 21:15.55 | [Ammo] | not to be mistaken for barmod17 |
| 21:15.58 | Vonhinten | goddamnit, vista has run out of memory again... some recent update must have fucked my shit up |
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| 21:16.16 | DARKGuy | ah, I won't update then :P |
| 21:16.16 | Greg_ | is barmod 18 the addon or the skin? |
| 21:16.23 | [Ammo] | it's a joke |
| 21:16.29 | Greg_ | thought so :P |
| 21:16.30 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 21:16.38 | Greg_ | so what can i do to get that look? |
| 21:16.39 | DARKGuy | it's Pitbull with some bitmap fonts :P |
| 21:16.39 | [Ammo] | serously though |
| 21:16.45 | nevcairiel | Greg_: you cant really tell what bar mod that is, its not really important either. its probably some random bar mod with a cyCircled or ButtonFacade skin |
| 21:16.47 | [Ammo] | get BT4 + ButtonFacade |
| 21:16.53 | Dashkal | Greg_: What about t.. the look. Has that look been ported to BF yet? |
| 21:16.58 | [Ammo] | and you probably can get it looking ike thta |
| 21:17.12 | [Ammo] | or thats zork's copypasteanaddontogether compilation crap |
| 21:17.23 | [Ammo] | also known as the rMods layouts elistjerk idiot |
| 21:17.27 | Dashkal | I know there was a cycircled skin for that specific look of bar button. Forget what it was or if it's been ported. |
| 21:17.29 | Greg_ | i just like the skin the addon is irrelevant. |
| 21:17.31 | [Ammo] | yes I have a deep respect for the idiot |
| 21:17.43 | Greg_ | ah well |
| 21:18.29 | NeoTron | on Kalecgos I should always be able to see everyone's buff/debuff right? or is it impeded by being teleported? |
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| 21:18.47 | Sedine | always able to |
| 21:18.55 | NeoTron | i.e does debuff checking work regardless of the location of players |
| 21:18.56 | Sedine | focus targets are lost t hough |
| 21:19.16 | NeoTron | well I have an addon that scans ppl for the debuffs of being on the inside and on the outside |
| 21:19.20 | NeoTron | it doesn't always work |
| 21:19.21 | TheySeeMeRollin | http://www.popgive.com/2008/05/video-games-ruined-my-life.html |
| 21:19.24 | TheySeeMeRollin | LOL |
| 21:19.25 | Greg_ | whats new in bt4 then |
| 21:19.28 | NeoTron | I wonder if it's a libbars issue or something else |
| 21:20.21 | [Ammo] | NeoTron: misplaced tab probably |
| 21:20.22 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 21:20.28 | Greg_ | so does button facade replace cycircled? |
| 21:20.39 | Greg_ | using with bt4 |
| 21:20.49 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: right |
| 21:20.53 | NeoTron | must be |
| 21:21.01 | NeoTron | I guess I need to add debug |
| 21:21.08 | NeoTron | hate having addons I can only test once per week |
| 21:21.29 | [Ammo] | Greg_: yeah |
| 21:21.35 | Greg_ | thanks |
| 21:21.36 | [Ammo] | buttonfacade is better than cyc |
| 21:21.43 | Greg_ | in what way |
| 21:21.45 | Dashkal | Greg_: cycircled is considered deprecated (obsolete) by ButtonFacade. Any new bar mods will be using BF. But they aren't compatable so cycircled mods won't just jump over quickly |
| 21:21.56 | Greg_ | thanks |
| 21:21.57 | Dashkal | Hence BT4 uses it and not BT3 |
| 21:22.03 | Greg_ | right |
| 21:22.11 | DARKGuy | BT4 needs more features though |
| 21:22.19 | Dashkal | That's what I'm waiting for yet :p |
| 21:22.23 | Greg_ | which skin is the closet to the screeny |
| 21:22.30 | Dashkal | That I don |
| 21:22.38 | Dashkal | 't remember, just switch through and find one you like :p |
| 21:22.45 | Greg_ | thanks |
| 21:22.49 | DARKGuy | No idea, I didn't know either for my previous style so I downloaded them all and tried them :P |
| 21:22.50 | Greg_ | ill check it out now |
| 21:23.30 | Greg_ | when updating bt3--->bt4 do i need to trash the saved variables |
| 21:23.42 | DARKGuy | lol @ TheySeeMeRollin |
| 21:23.53 | [Ammo] | no, greg but you have to redo you bars |
| 21:23.56 | [Ammo] | +r |
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| 21:24.08 | Greg_ | right thanks for the help |
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| 21:24.46 | Greg_ | ah i have another question if u dont mind |
| 21:24.50 | Greg_ | dont't* |
| 21:24.52 | DARKGuy | ask away |
| 21:25.03 | Greg_ | i used cecb to trak enemy csat bars |
| 21:25.08 | CIA-42 | 03belazor * r74695 10FuBar_InstanceInfoFu/InstanceInfoFu.lua: |
| 21:25.08 | CIA-42 | FuBar_InstanceInfoFu: |
| 21:25.08 | CIA-42 | - Track 5-man saved instances as well. |
| 21:25.09 | Greg_ | track* |
| 21:25.31 | Greg_ | is there any ace equivalent |
| 21:25.49 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 21:25.51 | NivFreak | does bigwigs give you weapon despwan timers for kael? |
| 21:26.00 | [Ammo] | NivFreak: no |
| 21:26.05 | aestil | deswpawn timers? |
| 21:26.07 | NivFreak | damn =/ |
| 21:26.14 | NivFreak | they despawn a minute after death right? |
| 21:26.22 | aestil | whos' they? |
| 21:26.22 | [Ammo] | yeah they dissappear 30 seconds after death, could be a minute |
| 21:26.25 | [Ammo] | I think 30 though |
| 21:26.26 | NivFreak | aestil: kael's weapons |
| 21:26.34 | NivFreak | phase 2 |
| 21:26.37 | NeoTron | we never had an issue with wpns despawning ebfore kill |
| 21:26.45 | NeoTron | would have to be very bad for that to be an issue I gather :P |
| 21:26.52 | aestil | yeah, never once had a problem with weapons despawning on us. |
| 21:26.55 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I prepare for the worst, just in case ;) |
| 21:26.59 | aestil | if they deswpan i don't think you can kill him. |
| 21:27.08 | Dashkal | Woot, blue confirmed that once you have a 55 on your account, you can make a DK on _any realm_. |
| 21:27.09 | aestil | i mean, if you're still fighting, you weren't going to beat him anyways. |
| 21:27.11 | NivFreak | it's just if people fail too loot |
| 21:27.12 | Hawksy | Is Pastamancer or Kaelten online? Xinhuan says that my problem trying to upload Recap may be that I need to be given access to upload Recap, and that they could give that access. |
| 21:27.14 | NeoTron | you could probably survive a bit |
| 21:27.18 | Dashkal | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/6441123344.htm |
| 21:27.20 | aestil | fight was nerfed badly though, its not nearly as tough as it used to be. |
| 21:27.21 | NivFreak | s/too/to/ |
| 21:27.26 | NeoTron | Dashkal: quite a while ago.. |
| 21:27.30 | NivFreak | purl: right |
| 21:27.31 | purl | blah blah blah/spam spam spam/yaddayaddayaddayadda sis boom bam |
| 21:27.42 | NeoTron | so ISB is nerfed to 15% from 20% |
| 21:27.45 | Dashkal | Too many people are holding to the "on the same server" line I never saw posted by a blue in the first place |
| 21:28.01 | NeoTron | I wonder if it's changed to be for-warlock only instead of raid wide too (as per those "fake" patch notes that partially came true) |
| 21:28.02 | NivFreak | do you guys have prot warriors pick up the sword as well? |
| 21:28.04 | NivFreak | or just shield |
| 21:28.09 | Dashkal | I only ever saw the "on the same server" line on the compiliation posts on the fansites |
| 21:28.15 | NivFreak | nm, of course |
| 21:28.31 | NeoTron | NivFreak: we usually also ahd random people pick up random things |
| 21:28.41 | NeoTron | sometimes a tnak didn't have time to pick up shield for example |
| 21:28.47 | NeoTron | but a random healer could and brought it to the tank |
| 21:29.03 | vithos | i remember a single pull where weapons despawned on us. lots of people dead, but we could have finished it otherwise |
| 21:29.04 | NivFreak | oh, they are tradeable? |
| 21:29.07 | NeoTron | yep |
| 21:29.09 | NeoTron | BoE but unique |
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| 21:29.24 | NeoTron | http://urlshort.com/wotlk/site/viewspell.php?spellid=47193 <-- I want to know duration/cooldown of the effects on the pet |
| 21:29.40 | NeoTron | or rather duration of the effects and cooldown ont he ability |
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| 21:30.31 | NeoTron | I think they are making succubus a viable pvp pet in the expansion, imp a dps/nuke spec pet, felhunter the same allaround utility as today, VW ... is still crap and felguard the solo pet |
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| 21:31.38 | CIA-42 | 03xiu * r74696 10Wishlist/Wishlist.lua: |
| 21:31.38 | CIA-42 | Wishlist: |
| 21:31.38 | CIA-42 | - Fixed AtlasLoot icons and most of the import data |
| 21:32.23 | Dashkal | dunno, if they can make the voidwalker outthreat the felguard by enough that you can make up the damage difference yourself, it might (just might) not be useless anymore. |
| 21:32.41 | Dashkal | Not holding my breath |
| 21:33.35 | NeoTron | Today I can outthreat my VW, improved, with dots |
| 21:33.39 | NeoTron | and not even all dots |
| 21:33.41 | NeoTron | it's pathetic |
| 21:33.52 | NeoTron | FG is the only viable tank pet and he's really squishy |
| 21:33.55 | NeoTron | in comparision |
| 21:34.16 | Dashkal | agreed |
| 21:34.27 | Dashkal | I tend to just solo with my imp out and fear/drain tank |
| 21:34.31 | Dashkal | (leveling, not endgame) |
| 21:34.57 | Dashkal | The damn blue thing can't hold aggro if I want to do any sort of real damage. |
| 21:36.06 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy * r74697 10/branches/Magnet/: Created folder remotely |
| 21:36.23 | vithos | yeah, i wish they'd make pets generate more threat |
| 21:36.26 | NeoTron | I tend to use the felhunter out when solo-affliction leveling |
| 21:36.43 | DARKGuy | ah, stupid tortoise |
| 21:36.44 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy 07DARKGuy * r74698 10Magnet/: Created folder remotely |
| 21:36.45 | NeoTron | because I can use his mana w/o him losing usability. alternativerly succubus w/o abilities |
| 21:36.52 | vithos | even with growl bugged getting extra threat you still pull aggro constantly |
| 21:37.08 | NeoTron | vithos: speaking as a hunter... hunter pets a A LOT better than a voidwalker |
| 21:37.14 | NeoTron | like probably 2-3 times as much threat |
| 21:37.46 | vithos | heh wow |
| 21:37.55 | Hawksy | Is Pastamancer or Kaelten online? |
| 21:38.07 | Kaelten | kinda, at work |
| 21:38.08 | Kaelten | sup? |
| 21:38.52 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy * r74699 10/branches/Magnet/: Removed file/folder |
| 21:39.03 | Hawksy | Hi, Xinhuan tells me that my problem trying to upload Recap might be that I need specific access to Recap. It was originally uploaded by dotted. |
| 21:40.01 | Dotted | oh shi- |
| 21:40.14 | Kaelten | possible |
| 21:40.19 | Hawksy | hi dotted, that you ? |
| 21:40.26 | Dotted | ye |
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| 21:40.38 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy * r74700 10/branches/Magnet/: Created folder remotely |
| 21:41.07 | Kaelten | yep Dotted is the only one allowed to commit |
| 21:41.09 | Hawksy | I've been trying to get permission to upload, since the wowace version is kinda out of date |
| 21:41.12 | breser | Ohh how I love the new log file format for the combat log. |
| 21:41.19 | Kaelten | Dotted: you cool with hawksy being able to commit? |
| 21:41.27 | Dotted | yeah he is the author |
| 21:41.30 | Kaelten | Hawksy: whats your svn user name |
| 21:41.35 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy 07DARKGuy * r74701 10Magnet/: |
| 21:41.35 | CIA-42 | Magnet |
| 21:41.35 | CIA-42 | First attempt at making a branch o.O |
| 21:41.49 | Hawksy | It should be Hawksy |
| 21:41.55 | Kaelten | Dotted: oh? bad dotted! |
| 21:41.55 | DARKGuy | Yay. |
| 21:41.57 | Kaelten | :P |
| 21:42.09 | Dotted | whut? |
| 21:42.12 | Dotted | i asked! |
| 21:42.18 | Kaelten | oh, then not bad dotted |
| 21:42.28 | Hawksy | Dotted had my permission and blessing to upload to wowace |
| 21:42.34 | Dotted | and then totally forgot to update it the past... months... |
| 21:42.46 | Kaelten | Hawksy: you're good to go |
| 21:43.11 | Hawksy | k, many thanks, I'll give it a try -- keep dotted with access too |
| 21:43.39 | Kaelten | kk |
| 21:44.35 | CIA-42 | 03anxarces * r74702 10FuBar_ProfessionsFu/ (FuBar_ProfessionsFu.toc README.txt): |
| 21:44.35 | CIA-42 | FuBar_ProfessionsFu |
| 21:44.35 | CIA-42 | - TOC update for patch 2.4 |
| 21:45.11 | Dotted | Hawksy are you gonna keep doing releases to the wowace svn, or will you use the svn to host the development version? |
| 21:45.16 | Hawksy | quick question since I'm an SVN noob: I've downloaded Recap, there is an svn folder there with files in it -- do I just change the Recap files that have changed and do an Import? or do I need to do something else? |
| 21:45.33 | CIA-42 | 03anxarces * r74703 10ProfessionsBook/ (ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt): |
| 21:45.33 | CIA-42 | ProfessionsBook |
| 21:45.33 | CIA-42 | - TOC update for patch 2.4 |
| 21:45.50 | Dotted | just overwrite the files should be fine |
| 21:45.59 | Dotted | /change |
| 21:46.11 | CIA-42 | 03anxarces * r74704 10TitanProfessions/ (README.txt TitanProfessions.toc): |
| 21:46.11 | CIA-42 | TitanProfessions |
| 21:46.11 | CIA-42 | - TOC update for patch 2.4 |
| 21:46.45 | Hawksy | Dotted: I plan to keep curse as the main site -- if you wish to continue uploading to wowace that would suit me fine, just seemed you were afk so I was trying to figure it all out |
| 21:48.48 | Dotted | ah ok, i dont mind continuing though - i just forgot to do it >_> sorry |
| 21:48.53 | Hawksy | Dotted: should I remove the Libs folder before updating? or can I just leave it there? |
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| 21:49.34 | Dotted | shoulnt matter, i kept it |
| 21:49.53 | Hawksy | k, tnx |
| 21:50.05 | Kazie | Anyone got some fun action bar addons that one should try out.. that works with ButtonFacade? needs to have a FadeOut(Mouseover) feature. |
| 21:50.25 | Arrowmaster | bartender4? |
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| 21:50.31 | Kazie | Doesn't have FadeOut yet |
| 21:50.57 | Primer | btw, this is the thing that dropped last night: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Plans:_Sunblessed_Breastplate&action=edit |
| 21:51.10 | Primer | dude bought it for 8.5k, it's in the AH today for 25k |
| 21:51.20 | Primer | err |
| 21:51.30 | Primer | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sunblessed_Breastplate |
| 21:51.33 | Primer | dammit |
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| 21:51.43 | Primer | the first URL was correct |
| 21:52.11 | Kazie | Well... that is pretty nice.. tho not for that price IMO |
| 21:52.21 | Kazie | Price of mats that is |
| 21:52.30 | NivFreak | hrm |
| 21:52.38 | NivFreak | has anyone killed kael with a mute rogue in raid? |
| 21:52.50 | Kazie | Which one of them? |
| 21:52.53 | Kazie | TK or MgT kael? |
| 21:53.00 | NivFreak | TK of course :P |
| 21:53.19 | Arrowmaster | weve killed TK kael with a shadowstep rogue |
| 21:53.21 | Kazie | I'd be quite surprised if a Mutilate rogue has not downed him yet :) |
| 21:53.22 | Hawksy | Kaelten: I try an import of Recap and after several seconds of activity I get: Error: 175002 (RA layer request failed) Description: CHECKOUT of '/wowace/!svn/ver/66903/trunk/Recap': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 21:53.39 | vithos | Shadowed: when clicking the X on /arena ui, SSPVP2-$Revision: 595 $\modules\arena.lua:284: attempt to index global 'Auction' (a nil value) |
| 21:53.54 | Arrowmaster | actually weve killed everything in hyjal and BT with a shadowstep rogue too |
| 21:54.21 | Shadowed | fixed next push |
| 21:54.22 | CIA-42 | 03elsia * r74705 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: |
| 21:54.23 | CIA-42 | Recount: |
| 21:54.23 | CIA-42 | - Fix bug when not retaining after sync. |
| 21:54.50 | Kaelten | Hawksy: try again |
| 21:55.25 | Hawksy | taking longer, perhaps a good sign ... |
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| 21:55.48 | Dotted | Hawksy have you setup your autoprops? |
| 21:56.20 | Hawksy | no, SVN noob here, don't know what an autoprop is |
| 21:56.29 | Dotted | hang on |
| 21:56.39 | vithos | [SW]Dodge: desperately need to be able to hide pet skill cooldowns :P |
| 21:56.41 | Hawksy | the error I now get tells me I need to set eol-style for each file |
| 21:56.46 | Dotted | you use TortoiseSVN right? |
| 21:56.55 | Hawksy | no, XCode on a Mac |
| 21:56.57 | Dotted | yeah thats autoprps |
| 21:57.02 | [SW]Dodge | vithos: q.q |
| 21:57.05 | Dotted | doh :P |
| 21:57.10 | vithos | they're so spammy :/ |
| 21:57.14 | [SW]Dodge | choose a class w/o pets ;D |
| 21:57.33 | vithos | lol, i'd probably play a lock if not my hunter |
| 21:58.03 | [SW]Dodge | play your lock with a sacrifice spec so you'll never see pet cooldowns *gg* |
| 21:58.35 | [SW]Dodge | well, i'll try to add an option to not reg pet cooldowns ;) |
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| 22:00.01 | Kaelten | Hawksy: ya sorry about that, with such a large repo we had to be kinda nazish |
| 22:00.32 | Hawksy | Kaelten: I understand |
| 22:00.47 | vithos | that'd be fine, i don't use any pets with long cooldowns anyway |
| 22:01.01 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy 07DARKGuy * r74706 10Magnet/ (Localization/enUS.lua Localization/esES.lua Magnet.lua): |
| 22:01.02 | CIA-42 | Magnet: |
| 22:01.02 | CIA-42 | * DRYCODED: Attempt to add a feature to loot quest items :) |
| 22:01.21 | [SW]Dodge | DARKGuy: whats magnet? :D |
| 22:02.10 | Azurewrath | baaah... whoever invented the ctrt export format was completely braindead |
| 22:02.14 | Hawksy | Kaelten or Dotted: it seems I need to set eol-style -- I guess it didn't get set when I downloaded -- which file do I edit to make that happen ? |
| 22:02.44 | Dotted | im googling for it atm |
| 22:03.10 | DARKGuy | [SW]Dodge: it's an addon to automatically loot items when you open the loot window ^_^ |
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| 22:03.34 | [SW]Dodge | loots all or can i setup what to loot? :> |
| 22:03.41 | DARKGuy | you can set it up :) |
| 22:03.50 | Kaelten | Hawksy: you're on mac? |
| 22:03.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:03.56 | Hawksy | yes |
| 22:04.03 | DARKGuy | [SW]Dodge: for now you will have to type the item name manually, either by GUI or slash command |
| 22:04.09 | Kaelten | is there a file at ~/.subversion/config |
| 22:04.21 | [SW]Dodge | DARKGuy: maybe i'll test it =) |
| 22:04.21 | DARKGuy | [SW]Dodge: you end up building a list of items that it will automatically loot on next loot window opening :) |
| 22:05.03 | DARKGuy | [SW]Dodge: I'd be glad if you do :D. I use it to grab cloth for our guild tailor :P |
| 22:05.34 | [SW]Dodge | DARKGuy: does it support "delete items that are less worth to sell at npc than the item too loot if bags are full"? :D |
| 22:05.36 | Hawksy | Kaelten: no, there's a new svn folder inside each folder -- inside each svn folder are four files and four folders -- file names are 'all-wcprops', 'dir-prop-base', 'entries', and 'format' |
| 22:05.37 | DARKGuy | it makes stuff easier when you try to loot the Karazhan guys :P |
| 22:05.48 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.57 | Kaelten | familar with how to use terminal? |
| 22:06.11 | Hawksy | y, checking now |
| 22:06.25 | DARKGuy | [SW]Dodge: :( I'm afraid not yet, I might have to use an optional library to know the value and work according to that, but I might do so - along with an item quality/rare filter :) |
| 22:06.37 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 22:06.57 | DARKGuy | But, time to go back home, I'll be back in a few hours xD |
| 22:07.02 | [SW]Dodge | i would love it then! hate to look at all greys for they value when i get an better item^^ |
| 22:07.06 | Hawksy | Kaelten: yes, a config file, have it open |
| 22:07.07 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 22:07.09 | DARKGuy | me too |
| 22:07.09 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 22:07.22 | Kaelten | ok towards the end there is a section called [auto-props] |
| 22:07.26 | Kaelten | http://pastie.caboo.se/201179 |
| 22:07.29 | Kaelten | is what mine looks like |
| 22:07.31 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.33 | DARKGuy | cya later guys ^^ |
| 22:07.37 | [SW]Dodge | cya DARKGuy |
| 22:07.43 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 22:08.03 | Hawksy | y, my file looks similar |
| 22:08.05 | starlon | That should be in the SVN for beginners heh |
| 22:08.24 | Dotted | Kaelten thatone lacks RTF files :P |
| 22:08.26 | starlon | although it might be now. haven't looked in a while |
| 22:08.36 | Kaelten | Dotted: :P |
| 22:08.40 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r74707 10FBoH_Professions/ (. FBoH_Professions.lua FBoH_Professions.toc): FBoH_Professions: Initial import. |
| 22:08.51 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: the CTRT importer for EQDKP is even more braindead |
| 22:08.55 | Kaelten | starlon: I doubt the mac specific instrucutions are up there |
| 22:09.04 | Dotted | Hawksy you will need to add an extra line for the rtf file |
| 22:09.07 | Dotted | sec |
| 22:09.18 | NeoTron | the CTRT export format has <boss> and <zone> tags for events |
| 22:09.36 | NeoTron | yet the ctrt importer insists on trying to fricking parse a free text field for the data leading to all sorts of fun stuff |
| 22:09.41 | Dotted | Hawksy something like this: *.rtf = svn:mime-type=text/rtf;svn:eol-style=native |
| 22:11.06 | Hawksy | Kaelten: I couldn't find any mac-specific instruction |
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| 22:11.39 | Hawksy | Kaelten: I've made the bottom of my config file look like yours, with the addition of the line suggested by Dotted |
| 22:11.51 | Dotted | that should be fine |
| 22:12.59 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: ohhhh, YES. |
| 22:13.04 | NeoTron | I want an addon that has (configurable) automatic loot assignment on master looter |
| 22:13.24 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: did you guys make him use a sword on kael? |
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| 22:13.31 | NeoTron | so I can open the corpse and get all [sunmote, HoD, Gem, blue trash] go to one person, all green DE trash to another |
| 22:13.35 | NivFreak | (I'm catching up) |
| 22:13.38 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: try HeadCount instead of CTRT, i like it very much.. and it is actively developed.. |
| 22:13.40 | NeoTron | and each categotry having a prioritized list of receivers |
| 22:13.56 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: I'm actively developing, and using. MagicDKP |
| 22:14.09 | Azurewrath | we would "only" need a sane xml export format then and the fitting eqdkp plugin.. :( |
| 22:14.09 | NeoTron | which is why I'm unfortunately familiar with the CTRT export format |
| 22:14.25 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: ah ok, that was the second addon i wanted to try out :) |
| 22:14.44 | NivFreak | my mut rogue doesn't want to equip a sword, and I don't know if it really matters either way |
| 22:14.46 | NeoTron | I see a lot of "it would be nice if headcount did this" requests for stuff that's been in MDKP from the start .. |
| 22:14.51 | NeoTron | but I haven't checked out headcount myself |
| 22:15.06 | Kaelten | Hawksy: yep should be good then, more or less, try again |
| 22:15.31 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
| 22:15.53 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r74708 10FBoH_Professions/Libs/: |
| 22:15.53 | CIA-42 | FBoH_Professions: |
| 22:15.53 | CIA-42 | - Added Libs directory for externals. |
| 22:16.01 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: ah well, mdkp or headcount... the important thing is: NO ctrt. |
| 22:16.10 | NeoTron | yes |
| 22:16.24 | NeoTron | MDKP is, naturally, written to work the way I need it to work |
| 22:16.32 | NeoTron | but I can tell you this - automatic standby handling is win |
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| 22:17.23 | Azurewrath | would it fit to our guild's system? (free auction system, 5 points per bosskill, 10 points if you don't come late) |
| 22:17.45 | NeoTron | yes |
| 22:17.55 | Hawksy | Kaelten: an error 'MERGE request failed'; then error 'pre-commit hook failed'; then the same errors about missing eol-style |
| 22:18.00 | Azurewrath | guess i'll give it a try then :) |
| 22:18.01 | NeoTron | it doesn't handle bidding, you enter an amount when the item is assigned just like CTRT |
| 22:18.24 | Azurewrath | that's ok for me, but automatic raidchat number-parsing would be fantastic ;) |
| 22:18.27 | NeoTron | it records events for boss kills, raid start/raid end (custom events - can record whatever you want) |
| 22:18.43 | NeoTron | I actually started using a slightly hacked whisperbid for biddin |
| 22:19.22 | NeoTron | so that's sort of putting a damper on adding that in ctrt :P |
| 22:19.31 | NeoTron | I have showdkp to show dkp values in-game and whisperbid uses it |
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| 22:21.08 | Azurewrath | mhm.. well, we don't have any fixed dkp values.. so i guess i don't need that part :) |
| 22:21.31 | [SW]Dodge | vithos: testing the option to hide pet spells *gg*^^ |
| 22:22.22 | NeoTron | it also handles stuff like auto-banked items (recorded with a value of zero, no popup), ignored item (not recorded at all), fixed price items (for example we charge no DKP for patterns that make BoE items but we record the recipient) |
| 22:22.25 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: what is MagicDKP_Client good for? |
| 22:22.50 | Xinhuan | Hawksy, you should decide now if you want to unlock Recap so that anyone can commit to it ;p |
| 22:23.17 | NeoTron | standby |
| 22:23.24 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r74709 10CoolDownButtons/ (6 files in 3 dirs): CoolDownButtons: add option to not show pet cooldowns |
| 22:23.29 | CIA-42 | 03dodge * r74710 10CoolDownButtons/ (6 files in 3 dirs): CoolDownButtons: add option to not show pet cooldowns |
| 22:23.34 | NeoTron | when an event is recorded, configured guild ranks get a popup if they had the addon installed |
| 22:23.39 | vithos | yay :) |
| 22:23.42 | NeoTron | accept it within 300s and they are added to standby |
| 22:23.43 | vithos | thanks <3 |
| 22:24.06 | [SW]Dodge | vithos: np |
| 22:24.08 | Hawksy | Xinhuan: in theory should only need to be dotted and me -- if I can get my upload working |
| 22:24.19 | CIA-42 | 03danielbarron * r74711 10RaidBuffStatus/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:24.19 | CIA-42 | RaidBuffStatus: |
| 22:24.19 | CIA-42 | - Added a feature where it tells you how long someone was AFK, Offline, PVP or dead. |
| 22:24.19 | CIA-42 | - Added a feature where Ctrl-click Shadow Protection and it will whisper all the Priests a list of who needs it. |
| 22:24.19 | CIA-42 | - Added a feature where Ctrl-click Arcane Intellect and it will whisper all the Mages a list of who needs it. |
| 22:24.22 | CIA-42 | - Added a feature where Ctrl-click Mark of the Wild and it will whisper all the Druids, with the most talent points spend in MotW, a list of who needs it. |
| 22:24.24 | Xinhuan | as long as you remain active, it isn't an issue |
| 22:24.25 | CIA-42 | - Added a feature where Ctrl-click Fortitude and it will whisper all the Priests, with the most talent points spend in Fortitude, a list of who needs it. |
| 22:24.27 | Azurewrath | ahh, for the people that maybe wait outside of the instance? |
| 22:24.31 | NeoTron | yep |
| 22:24.42 | NeoTron | it also auto-records additional members of the raid as standby |
| 22:24.43 | Azurewrath | Van1llepudd1ng |
| 22:24.44 | Xinhuan | the last time we tried to commit to Recap was when there was errors in Recap over and over, and the fix was adding a line to theTOC file |
| 22:24.53 | NeoTron | without the client addon that is |
| 22:25.02 | NeoTron | but we only demand that ppl are online and on one of their characters |
| 22:25.07 | Hawksy | I remember that, though not the details |
| 22:25.09 | NeoTron | usign alt aliases it doesn't matter which |
| 22:25.13 | Dotted | Xinhuan he is not using wowace as the main site, so its actual releases that gets on the svn. so its gonna be "support hell" if it was open, other than that you are right :P |
| 22:25.25 | NeoTron | just /md alt add <Alt> <Main> and the export (and gui display) will use the right name. |
| 22:25.25 | Xinhuan | yes, that is true |
| 22:25.33 | NeoTron | it's made our standby management completely automatic which is hot |
| 22:25.44 | Xinhuan | localization occurs rather quickly on wowace though, if you leave it open |
| 22:25.58 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: sounds nice.. guess we don't need that feature though :) |
| 22:26.06 | NeoTron | however I do have a question. If I send addon messages, zone out and get a response while it's on the loading screen, will it be processed correctly? |
| 22:26.27 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: it's by default disabled (by having no ranks to broadchast to checked by default) |
| 22:26.58 | NeoTron | I'm guessing it would be since, I presume, chat messages in general are not lost while zoning |
| 22:26.59 | Hawksy | Xinhuan: I'm pretty fast about incorporating localization |
| 22:27.17 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 22:27.35 | Hawksy | ... if ppl send me stuff |
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| 22:27.56 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: it also auto-learns new raid bosses |
| 22:28.06 | PsG-1 | Anyone recommend a mail mod? |
| 22:28.23 | NeoTron | so if blizz adds a new addon typically all you need to do for tracking to work is to play the instance |
| 22:28.36 | Azurewrath | PsG-1: Postal |
| 22:28.56 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: sounds nice |
| 22:29.30 | NeoTron | what I do not do however is to track how long someone is in a raid |
| 22:29.34 | NeoTron | i don't do time based tracking at all |
| 22:29.47 | Xinhuan | that's the thing Hawksy, i believe most localizations (i don't know if my belief is true) prefer to commit directly over sending emails and patches |
| 22:29.49 | Dotted | Hawksy well here it happens automatically - but i'd deffo recommend using the wowace svn to upload your alpha versions, and whenever you feel you have a solid release upload it to curse. but thats your decision ^^ |
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| 22:30.15 | Xinhuan | localizers* |
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| 22:30.29 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: same for me.. but i'd like to know if someone was in the group when we killed boss x |
| 22:30.43 | NeoTron | right |
| 22:30.47 | NeoTron | that's what we track |
| 22:30.57 | NeoTron | I do need to improve the "raid ui" though |
| 22:31.00 | NeoTron | separate it from the config UI |
| 22:31.01 | Hawksy | first I need to get this upload working -- Error: 165001 (A repository hook failed) Description: MERGE request failed on '/wowace/trunk/Recap' Error: 165001 (A repository hook failed) Description: 'pre-commit' hook failed with error output: /var/repos/pre-commit.d/check-mime-type: trunk/Recap/Recap/Bindings.xml : svn:eol-style is not set |
| 22:31.17 | NeoTron | but one thing MDKP has that it seems HC doesn't is linking loot to the boss it came from |
| 22:31.36 | Dotted | Hawksy you did save the config file right :P? |
| 22:31.45 | NeoTron | also don't care about trying to make it work in karazhan or molten core ;-) |
| 22:31.56 | Dashkal | hmm, either the config file isn't saved or your tool isn't reading the file you think it is... |
| 22:32.10 | Hawksy | Dotted: yes, saved it, and restarted XCode too |
| 22:32.26 | Dotted | :/ |
| 22:32.31 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: naah.. 25mans are enough.. even MH/BT/SW would be ;) |
| 22:33.00 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 22:33.05 | NeoTron | I have all 25-mans atm |
| 22:33.06 | Xinhuan | yeah you need to set the eol-style on all file types either generically, or on every file specifically |
| 22:33.17 | NeoTron | where latter fights in SWP theoretically should work fine |
| 22:33.23 | Xinhuan | its part of every file's svn properties |
| 22:33.40 | NeoTron | it seems HC is more of a attendance / loot tracking and that DKP is not a primary thought |
| 22:33.55 | Dotted | Hawksy you might just need to re-add the files in XCode |
| 22:34.10 | Dashkal | I'm just thinking here, don't take this as knowing, but would auto-props apply to files that are already being tracked? |
| 22:34.16 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: i'm playing around with the config atm, looks great.. the event name change is handy.. because our eqdkp event name for RoS is "Essence of Souls" and the Website/DB admin is to lazy to change that... ;) |
| 22:34.34 | Xinhuan | don't know about xcode ;p |
| 22:34.44 | NeoTron | I figured why hack eqdkp importer when you can change the source name instead |
| 22:34.58 | Dashkal | If not, that would explain it and you would need to add to every file one-by-one at this point. But I don't know xcode... |
| 22:35.06 | NeoTron | must say I liek the headcount UI for viewing data |
| 22:35.15 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: what are the Events in the "Event" tab good for? |
| 22:35.16 | NeoTron | similar to what I planned for the "raids" tab |
| 22:35.20 | NeoTron | custom events |
| 22:35.24 | NeoTron | i.e /md event raidstart |
| 22:35.32 | NeoTron | to log an event named Raid Start |
| 22:35.32 | Azurewrath | ah ok |
| 22:35.46 | NeoTron | support is very basic atm |
| 22:35.50 | NeoTron | I want to add more detail |
| 22:36.24 | NeoTron | so you can do /md event hourcheck and it adds "Hour Check #1" "Hour Check #2" for example. also want to add so you can configure both the event name and zone name separately |
| 22:36.54 | Azurewrath | mhm ok, thats nice |
| 22:37.03 | Dotted | http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Recap&diff=44213&oldid=30801 <- wtf LOL |
| 22:37.16 | NeoTron | I do have builtin wipe tracking if you do that too |
| 22:37.17 | Azurewrath | i'd like the gui of HeadCount with an advanced config like yours *duck* ;) |
| 22:37.33 | NeoTron | at a wipe /md wipe will record "Kalecgos - Wipe #1" etc |
| 22:37.51 | NeoTron | I hate the "raid ui" in MagicDKP so you're not alone |
| 22:38.02 | Azurewrath | would come in handy when trying new bosses.. since we pay 5 points per try for those |
| 22:38.03 | NeoTron | it's a quick hack to make it work |
| 22:39.09 | Azurewrath | i can't even find a raidui.. /mdkp only tells me the config command |
| 22:39.43 | NeoTron | tht IS the raid ui |
| 22:39.49 | NeoTron | the "raids" tab |
| 22:39.50 | Azurewrath | oh ;) |
| 22:40.09 | NeoTron | it doe sallow you to view raids, export them, edit recipient and price of items etc |
| 22:41.04 | Azurewrath | mhm ok, guess i have to test that tomorrow then |
| 22:41.08 | CIA-42 | 03zhinjio * r74712 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua img/ img/main.blp): |
| 22:41.08 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:41.08 | CIA-42 | - began work on testgui |
| 22:41.35 | NeoTron | I'm sold on it /lol (but I have some friends using it too) |
| 22:44.08 | Pkekyo| | (placid|work) i knew a girl that was fat just because of her asthma medication |
| 22:44.09 | Pkekyo| | (@Rayn) what was she taking for asthma ... cheeseburgers? |
| 22:44.15 | Pkekyo| | chuckles |
| 22:44.46 | Kazie | Ehm... |
| 22:44.59 | NivFreak | can feral druids use kael's staff in bear/cat form? |
| 22:45.05 | Kazie | Is it just me or can Mutilate R2 be aquired at the same lvl as Mutilate R1?.. :o |
| 22:45.08 | NivFreak | like actually 'use' it |
| 22:45.16 | [SW]Dodge | NivFreak: yes |
| 22:45.19 | NivFreak | k |
| 22:45.22 | starlon | oh baby I can "use it" |
| 22:45.31 | NivFreak | seems like they are ideal for the master engineer debuffing then |
| 22:45.33 | Dashkal | We can use any _equipped_ item in forms. |
| 22:45.40 | NivFreak | Dashkal: k |
| 22:45.41 | NivFreak | thanks |
| 22:46.09 | Dashkal | Man was I happy when I first discovered that :p I got to 60 without knowing my trinkets actually worked in forms... |
| 22:46.18 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:46.31 | starlon | did you have trinkets before 60? |
| 22:46.40 | Dashkal | is an engineer |
| 22:46.47 | starlon | ah right |
| 22:47.10 | Dashkal | But 40-59 has a few trinkets. Luffa comes to mind |
| 22:47.37 | starlon | what's a Luffa? lol |
| 22:48.18 | starlon | wait wasn't there a trinket off Noxious in Mara? |
| 22:48.21 | Dashkal | removes one bleed (useless after 60) |
| 22:48.24 | starlon | +nr |
| 22:48.30 | starlon | removes poison |
| 22:48.53 | Dashkal | Before they nerfed it people would use it to remove the bleed from marose[sp] |
| 22:48.59 | starlon | heh |
| 22:49.20 | starlon | I wonder if it removed whirlwind from Leo |
| 22:49.46 | Diao | moroes* |
| 22:49.53 | Diao | it got nerfed before leotheras came out |
| 22:50.01 | Dashkal | dunno. It's a pretty direct "removes one bleed effect". But they nerfed it by making it fail on any bleed cast by a 61+ mob. |
| 22:50.22 | starlon | it got nerfed before xpac went live? |
| 22:50.24 | Dashkal | moroes... I can never keep the vowels in order on that mob's name... |
| 22:50.33 | Diao | yeah when they found out people were using it on moroes |
| 22:50.35 | Dashkal | erm? It got nerfed about two months in... |
| 22:50.38 | Diao | it got instapatched |
| 22:50.55 | Diao | patch 2.0.10 |
| 22:51.16 | Diao | don't think anyone was in ssc at that time yet |
| 22:51.21 | Dashkal | hmm, that's later than I thought it was. I might have even made 70 by 2.0.10 |
| 22:51.35 | NeoTron | it's funny then that the only caster cloak enchant, which so far is the only caster cloak enchant in wotlk too, is from AQ40.. |
| 22:51.43 | CIA-42 | 03Hawksy * r74713 10Recap/Recap/ (47 files in 9 dirs): Recap: copy of 4.07 from curse.com |
| 22:51.54 | Dashkal | Seems you've met success :) |
| 22:51.55 | Diao | yep i was right |
| 22:52.01 | Diao | patch 2.0.10 came out march 6 |
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| 22:52.10 | Diao | world first kills by dnt/nihilum march 4/5 |
| 22:52.22 | Diao | then luffa got nerfed and nobody killed leo for another week after that |
| 22:52.29 | starlon | ah |
| 22:52.43 | Pkekyo| | what's more complex than 2+2? |
| 22:52.55 | Hawksy | Dashkal: looks like -- going to check whether I can download the same thing -- turns out that the auto-prop line in the config file was (default) commented out |
| 22:53.02 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: ehhh... what is the loader checkbox good for? i clicked it and it dissappeared ;) |
| 22:53.12 | Dashkal | heh, that would do it |
| 22:53.34 | Dashkal | Pkekyo|: 2+2i |
| 22:53.52 | Dashkal | Had to... |
| 22:53.55 | Pkekyo| | THANK YOU :p |
| 22:54.01 | Pkekyo| | was hoping someone would catch on |
| 22:54.15 | Dashkal | Blame JoCo and his damn Mandelbrot song. |
| 22:54.26 | CIA-42 | 03sayclub * r74714 10GridIndicatorSideIcons/GridIndicatorSideIconsLocal-koKR.lua: |
| 22:54.26 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorSideIcons : |
| 22:54.26 | CIA-42 | - koKR Update |
| 22:54.27 | Pkekyo| | mandelbrot song? wth |
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| 22:54.46 | Dashkal | http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Mandelbrot%20Set |
| 22:54.52 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: it should never be visible. how did you see it? :P |
| 22:55.01 | CIA-42 | 03neotron * r74715 10MagicDKP/ (MDKPItemWidget.lua MagicDKP.lua): |
| 22:55.01 | CIA-42 | MagicDKP: Add all raid members to the instance specific "trash loot" events |
| 22:55.01 | CIA-42 | (each time a trash item is looted). This allows proper reassignment of loot if |
| 22:55.01 | CIA-42 | necessary. Fixed bug with right clicking on an item icon to load the tooltip |
| 22:55.02 | CIA-42 | data. |
| 22:55.03 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: I dynamically generate the config UI - the loader is a hack to make it load data |
| 22:55.41 | Pkekyo| | jonathan coulton is AWESOME |
| 22:55.45 | CIA-42 | 03grayhoof * r74716 10LibSink-2.0/LibSink-2.0/LibSink-2.0.lua: LibSink-2.0: Added icon support for SCT |
| 22:56.03 | Dashkal | I had that song stuck in my head... I ended up writing a program to draw the thing so I could finally get the chorus out of my head. |
| 22:56.07 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: i ninja-invited two guildies, went into Hyjal and did /mdkp start.. after that it was just there in the raid tab |
| 22:56.25 | CIA-42 | 03sayclub * r74717 10GridAutoFrameSize/GridAutoFrameSizeLocal-koKR.lua: |
| 22:56.25 | CIA-42 | GridAutoFrameSize : |
| 22:56.25 | CIA-42 | - koKR Update |
| 22:56.36 | Pkekyo| | lma Dashkal |
| 22:56.46 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: odd |
| 22:56.59 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: welll might be an issue when you had no previous raids :P |
| 22:57.00 | CIA-42 | 03grayhoof * r74718 10sct/ (sct.lua sct_events.lua): sct: Added icon support to the message frame |
| 22:57.13 | NeoTron | try doing an /md event raidstart or so |
| 22:57.16 | NeoTron | see if it's added |
| 22:57.41 | NeoTron | you can also add items using /md additem LOOTER [ITEMLINK] |
| 22:57.44 | NeoTron | for testing |
| 22:57.56 | Hawksy | okay, new question -- it looked as though I had uploaded a new Recap -- how long before it should appear on files.wowace.com ? |
| 22:58.30 | Pkekyo| | being disconnected from IRC is like having your head dunked in a bucket of cold water.. it's disorientating and you know things have happened but you don't know what |
| 22:59.09 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: after adding the item, the loader checkbox re-appeared |
| 22:59.24 | Azurewrath | and the raid start event disappeared ;) |
| 23:00.28 | Dashkal | Hawksy: The packager should be running right about now (It runs at :00, :20, and :40) |
| 23:00.30 | [SW]Dodge | someone here who uses fizzle? |
| 23:00.49 | Azurewrath | when i click it the event reappears and the item is listed too.. but it seems to be rather buggy :) |
| 23:00.54 | Pkekyo| | * TPEGrunge is away: -(be back in 12 years)- since -(01:54)- pager -(off)- |
| 23:00.54 | Pkekyo| | * TPEGrunge is back: from -(be back in 12 years)- gone -(626wks 1day 6secs)- |
| 23:00.54 | Pkekyo| | WHAT THE FUCK o.O' |
| 23:00.55 | Hawksy | Dashkal: so up to 20 mins, gotcha |
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| 23:01.49 | Xinhuan | Hawksy, i would say it takes up to an hour these days ;p |
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| 23:01.59 | Dashkal | Pkekyo|: were those next to each other? |
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| 23:02.09 | Hawksy | kk -- off to grab a coffee then |
| 23:02.14 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: likely just because you had no previous raids |
| 23:02.17 | Azurewrath | NeoTron: i should sleep a bit for now.. i'll test MDKP tomorrow and report.. just ask if you need someone to test things or whatever.. gn8 :) |
| 23:02.18 | NeoTron | becuase I've not seen it |
| 23:02.21 | Azurewrath | possible |
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| 23:02.47 | Dashkal | Cause it looks like 626 weeks is just 12*52 with the remainder in days and seconds... |
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| 23:03.01 | Dashkal | (yes I know I described the math abysmally) |
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| 23:04.36 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: doubt it; it's a quote from bash.org |
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| 23:04.41 | Dashkal | heh |
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| 23:05.21 | Dashkal | well, I'm thinking the math is slightly off there. Sadly, I have a migraine right now and can't work it out properly |
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| 23:06.43 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: it's 12,0054794520.... years |
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| 23:07.12 | Dashkal | I forget how many weeks on average to a year. 52 point some number |
| 23:07.17 | Pkekyo| | so yeah, one day 6 sec just might be right |
| 23:07.26 | Dashkal | heh, maybe so then |
| 23:07.50 | Pkekyo| | if that's real; I'd like to meet the bastard, I wanna know wth is going on |
| 23:08.01 | vithos | 12 years = 626.129484 weeks |
| 23:08.18 | vithos | prison, perhaps? |
| 23:08.24 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 23:08.25 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 23:08.28 | Dashkal | lua> 0.129484 * 265 |
| 23:08.29 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 34.31326 |
| 23:08.36 | Dashkal | lua> 0.129484 * 365 |
| 23:08.36 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 47.26166 |
| 23:08.48 | Dashkal | so 47 extra days |
| 23:09.26 | Pkekyo| | I don't get the maths |
| 23:09.37 | Dashkal | I could be wrong. Not kidding about the inability to think |
| 23:09.38 | Pkekyo| | wtb [smarts] |
| 23:09.50 | Dashkal | It's making the java coding I'm doing at the moment very difficult :( |
| 23:09.58 | Pkekyo| | x) |
| 23:10.14 | Pkekyo| | I'm supposed to read for my finals (9am9 |
| 23:10.15 | Pkekyo| | but meh |
| 23:10.48 | Zicon | smacks pkekyo| |
| 23:11.14 | Chompers | too cool for school huh |
| 23:11.37 | Pkekyo| | no, just too demoralized |
| 23:12.04 | Pkekyo| | and if I don't know when every damn writer in the country's history were born by now, I wouldn't if I spent another day reading either... |
| 23:12.25 | Dotted | Hawksy the toc says 4.04 :O |
| 23:12.36 | Pkekyo| | Zicon: wut |
| 23:12.53 | Zicon | pkekyo|: You looked like you needed a smack. *shrug* |
| 23:13.15 | Hawksy | Dotted: I don't think the change has gone through yet -- Xin said it could be up to an hour |
| 23:13.16 | Pkekyo| | yeah, figured, It's not the first time.. |
| 23:13.36 | Dotted | Hawksy http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Recap/Recap.toc |
| 23:14.29 | Dotted | oh well lets wait |
| 23:17.17 | Hawksy | before I forget: Kaelten, Dotted, Xinhuan, Dashkal -- thanks all for your assistance |
| 23:17.23 | Pkekyo| | <g0atb0t> What's ADD stand for? Attention Deficit LET'S GO RIDE BIKES! |
| 23:17.24 | Dotted | np |
| 23:17.26 | Dashkal | :) |
| 23:17.29 | Pkekyo| | heeelp, can't stop laughing |
| 23:17.43 | Kaelten | :) |
| 23:17.54 | Dashkal | Pkekyo|: rofl |
| 23:17.59 | Gnarfoz | <Dashkal> Hawksy: The packager should be running right about now (It runs at :00, :20, and :40) <-- it runs every 30mins nowadays, because the actual packaging was getting really close to taking 20mins itself. ;P |
| 23:18.21 | Dashkal | ooo, good to know |
| 23:18.27 | Dashkal | so :00 / :30 ? |
| 23:18.37 | Hawksy | what happens when the packaging takes over 24 hours ? |
| 23:18.38 | Gnarfoz | dunno if it's "every 30mins" or 0/30 |
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| 23:19.01 | Dashkal | I'll ping the maintainer next I see him active (not worth a hilight) |
| 23:19.43 | Dotted | Hawksy did you use the edited toc file? |
| 23:20.24 | Hawksy | Dotted: I overwrote it with mine -- hope it works |
| 23:20.35 | Dotted | well it will work |
| 23:20.40 | Dotted | but |
| 23:20.48 | Pkekyo| | LET'S GO RIDE BIKES! |
| 23:20.50 | Pkekyo| | bwahahahahahaahha |
| 23:20.57 | Dotted | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Recap will look silly |
| 23:20.58 | Pkekyo| | oh god |
| 23:21.03 | Pkekyo| | I died so hard inside me |
| 23:21.50 | Hawksy | Dotted: because comment will be too long? gotcha |
| 23:22.16 | Pkekyo| | <Arkansas> wank --device=/dev/righthand --input=/dev/cock/shaft --output=/dev/cock/head --loop-device & |
| 23:22.17 | Pkekyo| | <IBM> I got a frontend to do that for me. It's called "woman". |
| 23:22.21 | Dotted | Hawksy just the author line |
| 23:22.23 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r74719 10FBoH_Professions/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 23:22.23 | CIA-42 | FBoH_Professions: |
| 23:22.23 | CIA-42 | - Added Locale file. |
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| 23:23.34 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r74720 10FBoH_Professions/ (. FBoH_Professions.lua FBoH_Professions.toc): |
| 23:23.34 | CIA-42 | FBoH_Professions: |
| 23:23.34 | CIA-42 | - Added preliminary code for professions filters. |
| 23:23.59 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74721 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 23:23.59 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:23.59 | CIA-42 | - Fixed |
| 23:24.50 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r74722 10FBagOfHolding/ (FBagOfHolding.lua StandardFilters.lua): |
| 23:24.50 | CIA-42 | FBagOfHolding: |
| 23:24.50 | CIA-42 | - Renamed "RegisterFilter" to "RegisterProperty", since it makes more sense to |
| 23:24.50 | CIA-42 | register all properties at once rather than one at a time (in the future |
| 23:24.50 | CIA-42 | properties will also allow the ability to sort as well as be displayed in a |
| 23:24.53 | CIA-42 | list). |
| 23:25.05 | Pkekyo| | I'm off...atleast I could get three hours of sleep before my finals...laters ladies |
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| 23:37.25 | CIA-42 | 03kagaro * r74723 10GatherMate_Data/dbgen.rb.txt: GatherMate_Data: added mciro json parser to the scraper |
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| 23:42.52 | CIA-42 | 03oridan * r74724 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 23:42.52 | CIA-42 | SpellReminder: |
| 23:42.52 | CIA-42 | - fix making totems inactive |
| 23:42.52 | CIA-42 | - fix self only buff throwing nil error |
| 23:43.01 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74725 10CombatAlarm/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:43.02 | CIA-42 | CombatAlarm: |
| 23:43.02 | CIA-42 | - Implement alarm sharing, still needs polish |
| 23:43.02 | CIA-42 | - X-Embed LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 23:43.02 | CIA-42 | - Update enUS |
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| 23:44.43 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74726 10CombatAlarm/Lib/: CombatAlarm: External line for AceSerializer-3.0 |
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| 23:52.33 | Olison | Guys, What's the Bufftracker above the target frame here called? http://www.one-garithos.com/Images/MoogleUI-Raid.jpg |
| 23:53.22 | CIA-42 | 03Hawksy * r74727 10Recap/Recap/: Recap: nested folder should not be there |
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| 23:54.53 | CIA-42 | 03funkydude * r74728 10StatBlocks_ClosetGnome/ (. StatBlocks_ClosetGnome.lua StatBlocks_ClosetGnome.toc): StatBlocks_ClosetGnome: Initial commit |
| 23:55.03 | Olison | cheers at Funkeh` |
| 23:57.50 | CIA-42 | 03jncl * r74729 10Skinner/ (AddonSkins/Ace3.lua Skinner.lua): |
| 23:57.50 | CIA-42 | Skinner: Throw an error to trace original location instead of just failing |
| 23:57.50 | CIA-42 | - Updated Ace3 skin |
| 23:58.27 | Primer | Anyone finding recount slowing shit down quite a bit in 25 mans? |
| 23:58.48 | Primer | Last night in sunwell, wasn't there for even an hour, and my game was stalling after every mob kill |
| 23:58.52 | Primer | resetting recount fixes it |
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