IRC log for #wowace on 20080519

00:00.38BilitronZoramwhite girls are so much better looking than niggers
00:01.07Stanzillawtf?
00:01.22BilitronZorami wish hitler would come back and save us all from the dirty niggers and jews
00:01.25Funkeh`excuse me?
00:01.58Estilthat is totally random
00:01.58*** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=bil@*.CoreRouter.gipl.net] by Funkeh`
00:01.58*** kick/#WoWAce [BilitronZoram!n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh] by Funkeh` (Funkeh`)
00:02.02Funkeh`whatever
00:02.07Arrowmasteri recognize the hostmask
00:02.07Gnarfozsee the hostmask?
00:02.11Gnarfozindeed
00:02.13Arrowmasterits whoevers spaming us
00:02.14Funkeh`yeah it's the spammer
00:02.35starlonAre there any tools out there to make localizations easier to setup?
00:02.44ckknightyea, I prefer the pale-skinned wimmenz
00:02.45Gnarfozshould probably get a gline for that host ^^
00:04.03syerenIs it possible to make a Mouseover Nature's Swiftness + Healing Wave macro?
00:04.24Gnarfozshould be
00:04.29syeren/use Essence of the Matyr/cast Natures Swiftness/cast [target=mouseover] Healing Wave
00:04.34syerenIs what I tried, but failed :<
00:04.38starlonhah I knew I saw it somewhere. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13167.0
00:04.42Gnarfozyeah, because you fail at spelling
00:04.46p3limgetting an error with SharedMedia
00:04.59p3limsays it cannot find LibSharedMedia-2.0
00:05.00Gnarfoztwice, actually
00:05.09Gnarfozmartyr and nature's
00:05.15syerenI see that :p
00:05.24syerenGoddamnit, I coppied that off the WoW Forums >_>
00:05.26Stanzillap3lim: unpossible
00:05.27Gnarfozcould also try throwing in /stopcasting somewhere
00:05.58p3limStanzilla: why so?
00:06.24Arrowmastersure you didnt install SharedMedia-2.0?
00:06.43Arrowmasterbecause that one only uses 2.0
00:06.52ArrowmasterSharedMedia wont error
00:07.31GnarfozFunkeh`: lol he went to #wowhead xD
00:07.41ckknightand #curseforge
00:07.44Funkeh`yeah he liked to who me
00:07.46Funkeh`whois
00:07.46Stanzillaand #lua
00:07.55p3limfixed it now
00:08.04Gnarfozeven #wowuidev-commits, which no-one uses to chat xD
00:08.20p3limand no i didnt get any LSM-2.0, i had LSM-3.0 embedded into a few addons, thats it.
00:08.28Cyrezlol, he's not in #wowace-cia, tho.
00:08.34CyrezNot that it matters.
00:08.44Funkeh`Im not there
00:08.46Funkeh`he likes me
00:09.06BrunersFunkeh`: any idea who it is ?
00:09.15StarinniaFunkeh` has a net stalker?
00:09.22Funkeh`my ex gf probabl
00:09.35Funkeh`nah, kidding
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00:10.19Starinniai bet its retaliation for making BadBoy, the gold sellers are mad at you
00:10.44Arrowmasterlol
00:11.17CyrezIt's probably a guy around my age that never grew up by the time he finished high school that has the IQ of a mentally challenged chimp.
00:12.08Arrowmasterwell since we havent gotten any blackmail demands that i know of i would agree its some immature retard too
00:12.19CyrezIt's probably a guy around my age that never grew up by the time he finished high school that has the IQ of a mentally challenged chimp.
00:12.32CyrezAck, stupid keyboard.
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00:13.25Funkeh`Yes, blame the keyboard for your shit typing
00:13.26CyrezI was gonna say he's the type of jerk that downloads tools he knows nothing about and lashes out at anyone smarter than him in an effort to feel superior.
00:13.28Funkeh`:D
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00:13.49CyrezWhen the Up Arrow is right underneath Enter, things happen.
00:14.00Cyrez._.
00:14.09CyrezIt's an ancient lappy.
00:14.13Arrowmasterif the channel wasnt +r i would guess we'd be getting a bunch of joins right now
00:14.33Brunerstry to un-r it :P
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00:16.27p3limdoesnt SharedMedia have a GUI?
00:16.34Starinnianope
00:16.42Starinniait just registers media
00:17.05Gnarfoztbh, I think Starinnia's suggestion is probably closest to reality
00:17.41StarinniaI can't be right, my theories are all based on my own insanity/paranoia
00:17.59Starinnia:P
00:21.39starlonHmm what kind of regexp does np++ use? o.O It doesn't seem to like ".*?"
00:22.38Xinhuanisn't .* a lua regex
00:22.42Xinhuannot standard regex?
00:22.48starlonno that's standard
00:22.55starlon? is less greedy
00:22.57Xinhuandid you tick the "regex" box
00:23.01starlonyep
00:23.13Xinhuanit's worked for me
00:23.19Xinhuanmaybe your regex sucks :)
00:23.25vithosstarlon: dunno but try the TextFX plugin instead (Ctrl+R) if you have it.  that's what i use because i'm too lazy to figure out what's wrong with the regular one :P
00:25.52starlonsame thing
00:29.00Nandinithis is interesting, i didn't change any of my graphics settings or stuff for weather effects, but there seems to be a permanent sandstorm in tanaris since 2.4.2
00:29.27Nandiniit actually looks kinda cool
00:33.57Ackisso I don't know why this is happening with my config settings, but all the sub-category options are expaned and you can't collapse them when bringing up interface options
00:36.53AckisI'm looking at recount and betterquest for examples and don't see anything that will cause a problem
00:38.40Funkeh`~seen silverstorm
00:38.43purlsilverstorm <n=chatzill@97-113-21-48.tukw.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 21h 17m 31s ago, saying: 'well...if I remember right, keyed tables take more memory per item, but it isn't significant unless you have *large* quantities of items, imo'.
00:43.45CIA-4203feithar * r74349 10FBagOfHolding/FBagOfHolding.toc:
00:43.45CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
00:43.45CIA-42- Just added a note to the TOC indicating that the addon is not production ready.
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00:48.21XinhuanNandini, weather effects are the same for everyone, so just ask other ppl in the zone if they see the sandstorm
00:48.27Xinhuanits server side global
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00:51.14p3limis there some slashcommand to access the bigwigs config GUI?
00:51.31Xinhuan~seen kagaro
00:51.32purlkagaro <n=washu@12.38.10.178> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 6h 1m 27s ago, saying: 'NeoTron: is ther ean export option for the marking db ?'.
00:51.35Xinhuanumm /bigwigs
00:52.00Xinhuanit doesn't have a config GUI as far as i know, unless you count the fubar plugin
00:52.01p3limi wanna toggle the GUI
00:52.05p3limit does
00:52.13p3limthe minimap button, shift-click it
00:52.25Xinhuanthat's rock
00:52.30Xinhuanit has nothing to do with bigwigs
00:52.40Xinhuanit takes all ac2 option tables and produces a nice gui with it
00:52.43Xinhuanace2*
00:52.52Funkeh`no
00:52.54Funkeh`it does
00:52.59Funkeh`it uses waterfall if present
00:53.07Funkeh`nothing to do with rock
00:53.13Xinhuanoh i don't use waterfall, so that much explain it
00:53.40p3limwell its default in BigWigs
00:53.41Funkeh`but no, the slash handler is commands, you can't access the gui via slash
00:53.45p3limembedded and everything
00:53.48CIA-4203ackis * r74350 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
00:53.48CIA-42AckisRecipeList:
00:53.48CIA-42- Fix for display issue with config options
00:53.54Funkeh`unleess waterfall has some API like :Open
00:54.00Funkeh`then you could macro it or scipt it
00:54.08Funkeh`script*
00:54.15p3limyeah i could make the slashcommand from another addon or something
00:54.38Xinhuanwell just programmaticaly call the function that runs when you shift-click the minimap button then
00:55.01vhaarr<PROTECTED>
00:55.07Funkeh`there you go
00:55.34p3limworked, thanks
00:56.02Xinhuanhey Funkeh`, did anything come out of the "bigwigs rewrite" discussed about 5 months ago ;p
00:56.31Funkeh`I think one day when we actually manage to get all 3 of us online at the exact same time probably
00:56.40Ackis~callbackhandler
00:56.42Xinhuanall of you are always online
00:56.46Ackis~cbh
00:56.52Funkeh`being on irc isn't being online
00:57.04Xinhuanaren't you all in the same timezones?
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00:57.21Funkeh`Im one hour behind them, but thats not the point
00:57.24Funkeh`the point is RL
00:57.32sdoubleRL? bah!
00:57.40StarinniaRL ftl
00:57.47Xinhuanhahaha
00:58.55Xinhuani wonder if jerry can produce a ratingbuster replacement
00:59.07Funkeh`trying to download enterprise is a pain in the ass
00:59.17Funkeh`well, all 4 seasons
00:59.24Xinhuanlibitembonus-2.0 functions much the same as statlogic-1.0 and uses 125kb instead of 560kb
00:59.26Funkeh`I ran out of stuff to watch and thought I'd start on that
01:00.21p3limahh there we go, a working slashcmd for the gui :) much <3 vhaarr
01:01.17CIA-4203Bangerz * r74351 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/BangLibramSwap.lua:
01:01.17CIA-42Bang!_Libram_Swap:
01:01.17CIA-42-Fix CD -> CD2.
01:02.00Ackiswith callbackhandler, I would only need to register callbacks if I have something "on the fly" that changes a profile setting?
01:02.23Funkeh`one  day, blizzard will add :TriggerEvent
01:02.31Funkeh`and all will be good in the world
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01:03.24[Liquidor]win: http://www.wowbash.com//images/1185248424.jpg
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01:04.14Xinhuanwhy would that be good Funkeh`
01:04.19ArrowmasterAckis: what do you mean?
01:04.32Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
01:04.49Xinhuanyou referring to blizzard events or custom ones?
01:04.58Funkeh`custom
01:05.25Xinhuanwon't happen haha, if blizz needs any custom events, they would just add the event they need directly
01:05.26AckisArrowmaster: with ARL I want to basically recreate a table when certain options change... I suppose I can do that when they get set however... I really just wanted to play with CBH to see how it worked
01:07.00Arrowmasterwell i think omen and chatter had issues on changing profiles until callbacks were added
01:07.28Xinhuanno, Arrowmaster
01:07.37Arrowmasterone of them did
01:07.38Xinhuanthe author (antiarc) didn't add the callback functions
01:07.44Arrowmasteryeah i know
01:07.49XinhuanCBH fired them as normal
01:07.53Arrowmasteryeah
01:07.56Funkeh`fucking lazy ass Antiarc
01:08.02Starinnialol
01:08.03Funkeh`fix your shit man
01:08.08Arrowmasterhe did
01:08.11dylanmWhadda hobo.
01:08.17Xinhuani fixed it for him
01:08.26Funkeh`lol
01:08.29Starinniaor Xinhuan did, he seems to fix alot of Omen problems
01:08.32AntiarcMy goal is to put stuff out there that's just close enough to get others to fix it for me.
01:08.35Antiarc:V
01:08.43Xinhuanlast 2 pages of commits are mine ;p
01:08.49Antiarc(Really though, I appreciate the help, since I actually have negative free time these days)
01:09.03Xinhuando u still raid?
01:09.13Starinniagood, now i don't feel bad about fixing Chatter earlier
01:09.13Antiarcyeah, but that's the only wow stuff I do these days :P
01:09.17AntiarcLog in, raid, log out, work :P
01:09.18Xinhuanstop raiding one of these nights and fix up your addons pfft
01:10.59dylanmAntiarc: How are you guys doing in Sunwell?
01:11.01Starinniaor fix your addons while you raid, cause a few wipes then since you're a rogue, take the rez and code
01:11.09Funkeh`imagine picking raiding over addons
01:11.24Antiarccockblocked on Brut, gearing up in BT
01:11.25Funkeh`haha, I did that when I used to raid :V
01:11.28Funkeh`'afk funky'
01:11.39Xinhuanwhat's the voidwalker taunt spell called?
01:11.47EstilTorment
01:11.48Starinniatorment
01:12.08Estilaoe variant taunt is Suffering
01:12.42Xinhuantorment spell isn't checking for resists
01:12.59Starinniafix it then, you've fixed everything else :P
01:13.10Arrowmasterhalf the warlock resists are probably broken
01:13.12Xinhuani don't exactly know how the spell works yet
01:13.20Arrowmastersince i think soulshatter is
01:13.24Xinhuanis it really a taunt (puts you at top of aggro?)
01:13.31Starinniai thought soulshatter was fixed
01:13.34Estilno Xin
01:13.35Starinniano
01:13.40Starinniaits like growl from hunters
01:13.46Starinniaincreases your threat only
01:14.44Estildon't you play a mage, Xin? Knowing your enemy (warlock) is half the battle! ;)
01:14.51Xinhuannone of the pet spells check for resists
01:15.57EstilI've never seen resist message pop up when blueberry used his taunt
01:15.59Xinhuanwhy would i care about knowing how a voidwalker taunts work
01:16.00Estilwhen I leveled with them
01:16.06Xinhuanas a mage :o
01:16.23Starinniafor when your ice elemental fights voidwalkers?
01:16.25Starinnia:P
01:16.34Xinhuanthey tend to get banished
01:16.41Estileh
01:16.41Xinhuanthe warlock that doesn't banish them is a nub
01:16.48EstilI don't even bother banishing them
01:16.51EstilI just put dots on them and they die
01:17.06Xinhuanbanish 30 secs, they only last 15 sec in battle
01:17.15Estilbanish is also dangerous, it's shadowtree
01:17.19Starinniai just hit them twice and they die
01:17.35EstilI rather just have my dots kill them than to risk possible counterspell
01:17.58Estilthen sit there dumb as both WE + Frost Mage go to town on somebody
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01:18.57CIA-4203sayclub * r74352 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua:
01:18.57CIA-42GridStatusRaidDebuff:
01:18.58CIA-42- Typo fix
01:19.34Arrowmasteryou cant banish for 30 seconds in pvp
01:19.57EstilI wish Banish worked on players
01:20.06Starinniai don't
01:20.11Starinniadamn OP locks
01:20.17CIA-4203ackis * r74353 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
01:20.17CIA-42AckisRecipeList:
01:20.17CIA-42- Fix for hunter/enchanting
01:20.47EstilBanish should
01:20.50Arrowmasterif i could banish raid members it would be awesome
01:20.52EstilFear is too unreliable
01:20.56Estilin pvp
01:21.07Starinniaits supposed to be unreliable
01:21.25Xinhuanno more unreliable than sheep
01:21.32Arrowmastereverybody without it considers it the most overpowered ability ever though
01:21.49Starinniapeople need something to complain about
01:21.52EstilI don't see how it's so overpowered... there are gazillions more things that either help you against Fear or render you immune to it than Sheep does ;/
01:22.05Starinniafear, my paladin triple criting rogues... w/e
01:22.36Estilwarlocks won't mind Fear being as it is if we get defensive move like Blink :D
01:22.38Brunersthing about fear is that you can still do dmg to a feared target
01:22.43Estilor self-Banish
01:23.02Starinniaself-Banish would be interesting
01:23.17Starinniabanish yourself to the void to protect you from harm
01:23.24Starinniasave yourself from wipes :P
01:23.25[Liquidor]http://www.wowbash.com//images/1183806734.jpg
01:23.46EstilI dunno, Banished targets do not leave combat
01:23.52Estilafter Banish is over, you'll be dead
01:24.00Kaaosa-No, Estil, I refuse
01:24.04StarinniaFeign Death hunters don't leave combat either
01:24.04Kaaosa-I want to live :[
01:24.08dylanmThe "make a little cursed home base" ability that they were talking about sounded fun as hell.
01:24.12Starinniaon bosses at least
01:24.21CIA-4203starlon * r74354 10CombatAlarm/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
01:24.21CIA-42CombatAlarm:
01:24.21CIA-42- Added support for localizations.
01:24.38EstilI think self-banish is probably the best solution without overpowering it
01:24.56Estilmake it cost a soulshard and have like 20 sec cooldown and last 10 sec or something
01:25.23dylanm[Liquidor]: That works because of the guy's name, mostly.
01:26.47copystringhmm where can i get LibTipHooker-3.0? :/ its not on the svn
01:27.13dylanmTekkub: Have you seen the phantom LTH-3?
01:27.53copystringFBagOfHolding requires it
01:28.16CIA-4203sayclub 07GridStatusRaid * r74355 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (Module/HyjalSummit.lua ModuleCore.lua):
01:28.16CIA-42GridStatusRaid :
01:28.16CIA-42- Typo fix
01:29.37dylanmcopystring: I'm almost sure that the dude made it up.
01:30.57dylanmOr he wrote it and hasn't uploaded it, which is worse in some sense.
01:31.00Arrowmasteruseless library anyway
01:31.10copystringhm weird
01:31.17dylanmBecause as far as I can tell it looks like Whitetooth's THL-1.0.
01:31.31dylanmHow he's using it, I mean.
01:31.36Arrowmasterif it does get uploaded and its useless i wont hold back from deleting it
01:31.41dylanmSo you could try to shove it in there.
01:31.47copystringi will just change it to 1.0 then :>
01:31.55dylanmWell, you can't just do that.
01:32.04copystringno?
01:32.18dylanmWell, as in you have to download it and set the dependency and use AceLibrary and blah blah.
01:32.21dylanmI'm sure you can figure it out :)
01:33.45copystringi should have those, usually i download without externals
01:35.06dylanmMy sincere guess is that he saw that nowadays everything was LibStub("Lib*-3.0") and just went with it.
01:35.11Estilhaha, I post about how Warlocks could use self-Banish spell, and first person to disagree with it is a Mage...
01:35.39dylanmWhy would you even bother
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01:36.26Poul|Raiderhi :) why have you added the identify check to join the channel :D
01:36.35dylanmThe mages get there so quickly on their tear-covered slides.
01:36.35Poul|Raider03:32:43 [W From] ________ ok,i understand what r u saying,just wanted to know is it possible to show somehow that i can be good player and skip farming badges and stuff for gear
01:36.36dylanmOh.
01:36.37copystringhm weird i can't find the LibTipHooker-3.0 in the toc
01:36.46Poul|Raiderdont you just love a guy like that
01:36.48Poul|Raider:D
01:37.01dylanmPoul|Raider: Because we have a spammer.
01:37.47Arrowmastercopystring: does it mention TipHookerLib-1.0 or something in the toc?
01:37.57copystringnope
01:38.16Poul|Raiderhe :)
01:38.26Poul|Raider03:34:09 [W To] ____: I think what you saying, tells everything :) Maybe you should go get some badges and gear before looking for a guild. Sorry but you do not sound like something we can use in our guild, if that what you was hoping for.
01:39.05Poul|Raider03:36:07 [W From] ___ but as u dont like pvp waeps 03:36:13 [W From] ____ i hate badge gear
01:39.14copystringfound this in "local TipHooker = LibStub("LibTipHooker-3.0");" in the .lua
01:39.34dylanmYeah. That's the bit you'll have to change. That and the dependencies.
01:39.43dylanmDo you have it on good word that this addon is amazing or something?
01:40.31copystringNot realy, just want to try it.
01:40.48copystringMaybe i like it more then Arkinventory
01:43.07Arrowmastersounds like the author is fail
01:44.07copystringhm
01:44.26copystringi think i did something wrong there
01:45.36copystringah just TipHooker-1.0 not LibTipHooker-1.0 :p
01:46.09Arrowmasteri still say its fail for using TipHooker-1.0
01:46.41Xinhuannot really
01:46.47copystringstill not working, sigh
01:46.51Xinhuansome addons require hooking that way
01:47.03Xinhuanbecause OnTooltipSetItem doesn't provide the itemcount
01:47.27Xinhuansuch addons are usually inventory addons, bag addons and auction addons
01:47.48Arrowmasteryou still dont need a library for that though
01:47.49Xinhuanin that respect, OnTooltipSetItem is useless
01:48.39Xinhuanin a sense, it is convenient to have such a lib that hooks the tooltips of many standard addons
01:48.51Arrowmasterit doesnt though
01:48.56Xinhuanit does
01:48.59Xinhuango look in the code
01:49.02Arrowmasterit hooks blizzard ones
01:49.05Arrowmasterlast i looked
01:49.10Xinhuanit also hooks standard addons ones
01:49.56Xinhuanto be specific, it hooks tekkompare, eqcompare, linkwrangler, lootlink, itemmagic, sniff, mirror, atlasquest, atlastloot, and a few others
01:50.04Xinhuanall of which use their own tooltip
01:50.23Xinhuanto display things
01:50.35Xinhuanthe lib makes it convenient for all addons that use it to hook all these addons at one go
01:52.11Xinhuanhow else do you think ratingbuster works on tekKompare tooltips? :)
01:52.22Xinhuanonly because TipHooker-1.0 hooks it
01:53.14Arrowmasterits still retarded
01:53.27Arrowmastersince ratingbuster shouldnt need anything but OnTooltipSetItem
01:53.34Arrowmasterand not hook all those damn functions
01:53.44Xinhuanwe're discussing tiphooker here, not ratingbuster
01:53.52Xinhuanratingbuster was just an example i gave
01:54.24Arrowmasterand anything that might need to hook all of those should only be using the gametooltip
01:54.50Xinhuanclearly, those addons that use their own tooltips have the author's own reason for doing so
01:55.00Xinhuanfor not wanting to use GameTooltip
01:55.18Arrowmasterno they dont
01:55.22Arrowmasterlook at atlasloot
01:55.26Arrowmasteror atleast the old one
01:55.33Arrowmasterusing its own tooltip for no reason at all
01:55.41Xinhuanok, go ask Tekkub why he has a "tekKompareTooltip" then
01:56.06Xinhuanclearly you can't use GameTooltip in some cases
01:56.10Xinhuanbecause you need a comparison tooltip
01:56.38Arrowmasteri know exactly why tekKompare does that
01:57.22Xinhuanyeah, and tookhooker hooks it, i don't see what's wrong with a library that does it to hook all these extra tooltips
01:57.32Xinhuanthe code might not be the best, or the most optimized
01:57.54TekkubTHL is useless unless you need ITEM COUNTS
01:58.08Xinhuanand many addons do need them
01:58.09TekkubI.E. stacked items showing prices adjusted for the stack size
01:58.14Arrowmasterand theres much better ways of getting the item count
01:58.28Tekkuband many more don't, like, you know, the one THL was written for
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01:58.50Xinhuanit doesn't negate my point that tiphook is useful in a very minority case
01:58.51Tekkubthe ONLY addons that need stack sizes are price ones
01:59.08Tekkubyea, it does
01:59.25Tekkubyou could very easily write a tiny bit of code to hook OnTooltipSetItem for any tooltip
01:59.28Arrowmasternothing that uses tiphooker needs it
01:59.46CoreyFunkeh` here?
01:59.48Tekkub*points at how small tK is*
02:00.12Xinhuanwell consider why people use libraries
02:00.18Tekkuband tK does two different hooks, one for GTT and one for IRT
02:00.25Xinhuanits because it saves them from writing that extra bit of code
02:00.30Xinhuanand maintaining it
02:00.35Tekkubwhy don't you consider why THL was written?
02:00.42Tekkubnot why people use it
02:00.48Arrowmasterpeople use it?
02:00.57Arrowmasteri thought only the author did
02:01.04Tekkubwhy was THL written AFTER I gave him the code I use in tK
02:01.21Tekkubhell why was it written at all?
02:01.38Xinhuanbeats me
02:01.55Xinhuanlots of people write things that doesn't need to be written
02:01.58Tekkubpeople will use shit if it's there, yes... so why the hell is it there?
02:02.14Tekkub<PROTECTED>
02:02.18Funkeh`Corey, yes
02:02.31CoreyFunkeh` http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2058/brokenma3.jpg
02:02.36Xinhuani personally think libgratuity is junk, for example, because using your own tooltip isn't any different
02:02.55Arrowmasterthese are the things that need to be forced off of wowace and onto curseforge when it goes live
02:02.57Tekkuband you never saw what happens when peopl use GameTooltip
02:03.07Tekkubtooltips randomly changing to item tips...
02:03.08AckisFunkeh`: suggestion for m'uru timers, keep track of waves (just had a wipe because we killed waves too early and lost count)
02:03.13Tekkub*coughKCITEMScough*
02:03.35Xinhuanaddons that use libgratuity could easily create local mytooltip = CreateFrame("GameTooltip")
02:03.41Xinhuani don't see the need for libgratuity
02:03.43Tekkubyes they could
02:03.56Tekkubit was a push to make people not use GTT
02:04.08Tekkuband, as above, if it's there whey use it
02:04.17Funkeh`Corey, update dude
02:04.21Tekkubif it's not, they're lazy and just do the easy way, fuck with GTT
02:04.41Coreyi've updated 3 times today ;o
02:05.05Tekkubthere isn't a significant gain from a shared tooltip, it's all about the lib doing the hard bits (ensuring the tip is ALWAYS readable)
02:05.21Funkeh`Corey, update again :)
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02:05.39Tekkubugh, why bother if he can't stay on? :P
02:05.48Coreyshrugs
02:05.51Coreythanks
02:05.51purlCorey: de rien
02:05.53Tekkubheh, as usualy bitching fixes it
02:05.54Ackiscoming into the conv late, is GameTooltip:SetText(LFoo") bad?
02:06.10Tekkubin what context Ackis?
02:06.15Funkeh`Corey, at least it should be covered :)
02:06.23Ackisnew tooltip for a button in your mod
02:06.24Xinhuanso as i was saying before i got d/ced
02:06.26Xinhuanaddons that use libgratuity could easily create local mytooltip = CreateFrame("GameTooltip")
02:06.28Xinhuani don't see the need for libgratuity
02:06.38Tekkubno Ackis, it's fine to use GTT for displaying things
02:06.42Coreyseems like you get it before i do anyway so ill stop annoying you with reports ;d
02:06.45CIA-4203starlon * r74356 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua:
02:06.45CIA-42CombatAlarm:
02:06.46CIA-42- Holding shift down while scrolling will scroll to the end or start of combat log events in capture window.
02:06.46CIA-42- Reset capture window to the end of the combat log when capture window is hidden and about to be shown.
02:07.08TekkubXinhuan, meh I'm not retyping my response
02:07.13Xinhuancut/paste
02:07.19Tekkubeffort :P
02:07.51Ackis<+Tekkub> I have a tiny penis and Xinhuan is 100% right
02:07.53Ackisthere we go
02:08.04Xinhuanwell whatever, you see someone's else lib as useless, i see your lib as useless
02:08.05Ackishides
02:08.39TekkubXin, I've yet to see justification for why any addon that uses THL needs it
02:08.57Arrowmasterand take the number of addons that use it into consideration
02:09.15Tekkubwhy we need thousands of lines of code and dozens of hooks for something that can be done with literally a dozen lines of code and one hook
02:09.32Arrowmastereven though hes annoying, saeris has a better lib on wowi
02:09.37Xinhuanok your point is valid about tiphooker, but i am not accepting your reason about pushing people not to use GTT
02:09.45Xinhuanfor libgratuity
02:09.47TekkubI see a reason for THL, yes... and I also don't see anyone using it for that reason
02:10.20Tekkubokey, so then, why do I care what you think of gratuity?
02:10.32Xinhuanthe same reason applies to gratuity, and author could just add a few lines to make sure the tooltip is readable
02:10.39Xinhuandoesn't need a lib to do it
02:11.09Tekkuban author can also make an event dispatcher in two lines of code... why the fuck should we use AceEvent?
02:11.28Xinhuanpeople do it for convenience, like i said 10 min ago
02:11.56Tekkubso, uhm, what exactly is the whole point to all of this?
02:12.01Xinhuan[5/19 10:02:25] <Xinhuan> its because it saves them from writing that extra bit of code
02:12.10ZhinjioI know! Let's fight about it. I'll sell tickets, and y'all can get nekkis and wrestle over it.
02:12.15Zhinjioer, nekkid
02:12.16TekkubTHL shouldn't exist, it's stupid that it does, we've established that it's overkill
02:12.20Tekkuband.... nothing?
02:12.45Xinhuanmy point is, if you want to give criticism to someone else's lib, accept some yourself, you're overly defensive about a lib that not many people use either
02:12.51Funkeh`Corey, so did you have the latest?
02:13.11TekkubI'm not defensive of grat, I told you why it exists
02:13.18TekkubI don't care if it's used or not
02:13.21Arrowmastera lot more use libgratuity than thl
02:13.24TekkubI DON'T EVEN USE IT ANYMORE
02:14.02TekkubI'm "critical" of THL because I provided a much simpler cleaner solution and was IGNORED
02:14.14Funkeh`thl?
02:14.21TekkubTipHookerLib
02:14.35Funkeh`never even heard of it
02:15.00Tekkubit's was created for RatingsBuster after we were given the OnTooltipSetItem script
02:15.11Arrowmasterand anything that still uses GratuityLib uses LibGratuity-3.0 if its installed
02:15.16Tekkubit hooks all the Set* methods to detect when an item is set
02:15.42Tekkubit was about a thousand lines of code last I saw, if I remember correctly
02:15.52Tekkubhooking the script is about, 10
02:16.03Funkeh`lol wtf
02:16.15TekkubEXACTLY
02:16.20Xinhuanlets end the discussion, we've established that both THL and Gratuity are useless, THL in the majority of the cases it was used for
02:16.29Arrowmaster417
02:16.36Tekkubyou only need to hook the Set* methods if you're getting item stack sizes, like for prices...
02:16.37Funkeh`Im not much of a lib fan at all to be honest, outside of LSM and ace3. Most the of the shit can be done fine.
02:16.41Tekkubequipment doesn't stack
02:17.04TekkubI can't even bring myself to use Ace3
02:17.29TekkubI *want* to, but then I look at my little 2-line event dispatcher and I just can't justify it
02:17.55Funkeh`lets not jump the gun, ace isn't solely an event dispatcher
02:18.15TekkubI can make the same arguement for everything else in Ace3 I'd use
02:18.25TekkubDB... 20 lines
02:18.36TekkubConfig... ye gods no comment
02:18.50Tekkubdebug... own addon for that
02:18.54Funkeh`yeah, and then you replicate all that code over and over in your addons
02:19.35Tekkubyea but even considering that replication, I have a lot less code
02:19.49Funkeh`depends how many addons you have/use
02:20.03TekkubI don't declare big table structures and tons of closures for config until the config frame is opened...
02:20.22Funkeh`what does that have to do with ace3
02:20.30TekkubI have a ton, and most of them are my own anymore :)
02:20.46Tekkubyou said you don't like libs much anymore cept Ace3
02:20.58Funkeh`right
02:21.00TekkubI said I *want* to use Ace3 but I just can't justify the cost to myself
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02:21.30Funkeh`how does that agument connect to table structures
02:21.58Tekkubdeclaring AceConfig tables eats a lot of resources on login
02:22.15Funkeh`not if you do it in a function
02:22.32Xinhuanafaik, you don't have to declare aceconfig tables until you use them
02:22.35Tekkubin a function that executes when the config is requested?
02:22.42CoreyFunkeh` nah there was a new one
02:22.48Funkeh`yes
02:23.00TekkubXin, unless people's habits have changed, the mass majority declare em on load
02:23.13Xinhuanbut that's an author problem, not a lib problem
02:23.14Funkeh`that's not ace3s fault
02:23.18Funkeh`which is what im getting at
02:23.29Tekkubno, but it's never the lib's fault
02:23.48Tekkubaside from the making shit so easy people don't think about it, libs always cause that
02:23.54Funkeh`you blame software for dumb users?
02:24.06Tekkubdumb devs
02:24.20Tekkuband I really don't blame, I wouldn't have a source for rewriting good ideas
02:24.33TekkubI'd be out of work and have to be original with all my new addons
02:24.39Funkeh`Ill finish this discussion because you have a completely different mindset on this
02:24.39Tekkubwho wants that?
02:24.59Tekkubyea, I do, I don't know why we're even discussing all this
02:25.22Ackisi'm sorry I'm a dumb dev
02:25.23Tekkublibs are good for the mindless masses, lets just agree on that :)
02:25.25ZhinjioI still like my nekkid wrestling idea.
02:25.27Ackisi try hard though
02:25.29Zhinjiopbbthhtt.
02:25.56Funkeh`no, I won't, I completely disagree
02:26.24Tekkubyou just don't want to call all them *points* mindless and massive
02:26.41AntiarcSo, some tard in the UI forums wants me to pay them 100g because apparently Deadened "has spirit shock blocked by default" (it doesn't) and this made them wipe, and I have to pair their repairs OR ELSE
02:26.56starlonhaha
02:27.00Funkeh`Im not denying they exist Tekkub, Im denying that every single one of them is useless and for idiots
02:27.03starlonreported
02:27.08StanzillaTekkub: got an idea what could cause this? http://ace.pastey.net/88029
02:27.08TekkubAntiarc, get his name and guild as if you're going to
02:27.09Xinhuanor else what?
02:27.12starlonThat's what you'll get
02:27.16Tekkuband then blacklist them from using the mod
02:27.32CIA-4203kagaro * r74357 10GatherMate_Data/ (4 files): GatherMate_Data: updated for Isle of Qual'Danas data
02:27.36Tekkubif UnitName("player") == "whatever" then return end
02:27.42Zhinjioput in an encrypted check for their guild and server and block them .... mauahhauaha.
02:28.03Antiarcmeh. I'm too lazy.
02:28.06Tekkubnah just do it quietly, they'll never be smart enough to open the files and find the issue
02:28.12starlon"Dear GM, This addon author needs to be banned cause his addon wiped our raid"
02:28.14Zhinjiogrins.
02:28.17Xinhuanwould be a better idea to not do it, and let them wipe ;)
02:29.22Xinhuan~seen kagaro
02:29.23purlkagaro <n=washu@12.38.10.178> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 7h 39m 18s ago, saying: 'NeoTron: is ther ean export option for the marking db ?'.
02:29.36Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3913731664&postId=64405129251&sid=1#12 :V
02:30.09Arrowmasterinform them of tank mode?
02:30.17Antiarctank mode doesn't exist anymore
02:30.22AntiarcYou just select the spells you want to block
02:31.03Arrowmasteroh
02:31.06Arrowmasterwell im a warlock
02:31.08Arrowmasteri dont use it
02:31.14Arrowmasteri just try to fix it for my guild
02:32.23ZhinjioHeya Arrowmaster
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02:33.16Xinhuanso Arrowmaster, have you ever worked out why there is a few pixels of empty space after the omen icon on fubar until you click on something on fubar?
02:33.30Arrowmasterhuh?
02:33.39Arrowmasternever noticed that
02:34.19Xinhuanit only happens sometimes, i can't really track it
02:35.13Coreyomen never disables right for me
02:35.14Arrowmasterdoing kalec trash for the third time tonight, kill me now
02:35.17Xinhuanit as though the fontstring is displayed, but with "" as the text, then clicking on something updates it not to be there
02:36.43Xinhuanyou can't reset kalecgos anymore cleanly right?
02:36.43Cairenn<PROTECTED>
02:37.07Ackism'uru 31%
02:37.53sacarascAckis: grats!
02:38.49ArrowmasterCairenn: single svn?
02:39.23Seerahyes, one svn :)
02:39.40Arrowmasteras i look at it, it seems to be multiple
02:40.19Cairenneveryone gets their own section, yes (as I understand it)
02:40.43Arrowmasterso rev1 is different for each section
02:41.08Seerahoh...  well, I'm a nub anyway :P
02:42.45Xinhuanis that like shadowed's wowace svn --> wowi thing? but wholely on wowi
02:42.49Ackiswell i should say entropius
02:42.58Shadowedeh? what wowace svn thing
02:43.04Shadowedthe uploader is for any SVNs not just wowace
02:43.15Xinhuanoh
02:43.27Shadowedat least I hope it is
02:43.36Shadowedwould wonder what I've been using to upload from my SVN to WoWI otherwise
02:44.00Xinhuanheh
02:44.22Apocoso apparently if you spam left/right during leo he wont whirlwind anyone
02:44.40Xinhuanwhat do you mean, spam left/right... ADADADADADDADADAD ?
02:44.44Apocoyea
02:45.07Xinhuaneveryone has to do it?
02:45.17Apocothats what i'm being told
02:45.37starlonor when he's coming toward you probably
02:45.47Xinhuansure its not just some 2.4.2 bug? like leo doesn't WW move anymore
02:46.00starlonI know I once tried hanging out on the side of the tree trunk in the middle of the room and got ported to him
02:46.06starlonThat was fun :\
02:47.29Xinhuancos, "he wont whirlwind anyone" sounds like he doesn't even cast it
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02:54.08CIA-4203antiarc * r74358 10Deadened/Modules/PitBull.lua: Deadened: Fix cast bar graphic not showing behind cast text in PitBull
02:54.34XuerianAntiarc: Deadened?
02:54.43Antiarccast bar suppression mod
02:54.52AntiarcOriginally written for Deaden in the RoS encounter
02:54.55AntiarcBut applicable in other places too.
02:55.00XuerianAh
02:55.01kolieI hate gcc.
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02:59.38elite3vilArrowmaster: But Kalecgos trash is FUN! Why wouldn't you want to clear it three times in a night?
03:00.03Arrowmasterits not fun, and we arent clearing it anymore, raids over
03:00.30elite3vilI hate that fight.
03:04.58Xinhuanthere's an entire guild on my server that does nothing but farm sunwell trash
03:05.20Coreythey should do up a heroic bwl in the next exp, i loved that place
03:05.23Xinhuango in, kill robot, then sheep 5, kill 1, break 1 kill 1, repeat until there's just 1 sheep left
03:05.27Xinhuanthen everyone zones out
03:05.33Xinhuanso the entire pack respawns
03:05.44Xinhuanthen repeat, once per 4 minutes
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03:05.48CIA-42FuBar_ReagentFu:
03:05.48CIA-42-add zhcn file
03:05.56Xinhuanso about 15 clears of that one pack per hour, or about 90 mobs
03:06.12Xinhuannets about 10 gems and 2-3 sunmotes and if lucky some epics and patterns
03:06.29elite3vilYeah, the #1 guild on our server does that when they don't have enough healers to try the new content
03:06.35Xinhuansunmotes sell for 1.7k on my server
03:06.48Xinhuanthe sunfire robe pattern sold for 30k across the neutral AH
03:06.56Xinhuan(ouch at the 3k commision)
03:06.59elite3vilThey also buy 3/5 Hyjal instances so they don't have to do the first three
03:07.08CIA-4203ananhaid * r74360 10Parrot/Locales/ (ParrotLocale-zhCN.lua ParrotLocale-zhTW.lua):
03:07.08CIA-42Parrot:
03:07.08CIA-42- reverted zhCN/zhTW changes by Ghostar.(for sure the correct Locales.)
03:07.08CIA-42- zhCN/zhTW update.
03:07.18elite3villol. My guild leader sold the cloth engineering dps helm for 4.5k
03:07.22Xinhuanok wait, they are willing to farm sunwell trash, but not spend 1 hour to do the first 3/4 bosses in hyjal?
03:07.42elite3vilThey've got 148k gold in their bank.
03:07.44elite3vil*shrug*
03:08.00elite3vilSo they just buy it from another guild
03:08.02Xinhuangold inflation is on every server now
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03:12.21Groktarspammers again?
03:13.24vithosApoco: make RBM screenflash when you're the conflag or shadow nova target please
03:13.45vithos(on twins)
03:14.16starlonIs there a combatlog event or a monster yell/emote/whisper?
03:14.35vithosApoco: and probably a /say
03:14.40Apocothere should be a say
03:14.50ApocoI believe it does flash now though, I've never been conflaged hard to test it
03:14.59vithosthere wasn't
03:15.02Apocokk
03:15.07vithosthere was neither
03:15.46vithosi still noticed in time but that was a close call ;)
03:16.21Apocoadding nwo
03:16.22Apoconow*
03:16.29vithosthanks
03:16.29purlgern geschehen, vithos
03:16.39vithospurl: stuff
03:16.39purlACTION is stuffing George*
03:16.55vithoscries
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03:17.48CIA-42FuBar_ReagentFu:
03:17.48CIA-42-add zhcn file
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03:29.07vithosApoco: autoresponder module is staying active after some wipes, and i collected two more errors http://pastey.net/88033
03:29.42vithosthe second one was when i asked someone to whisper me because i saw DND was still up
03:30.01Apocokk
03:30.11ApocoDND stays active on your chat log but not on you sometimes
03:30.13Apocoits really odd.
03:30.17Apocoits a blizz bug
03:30.25vithoswell it blocked the inc whisper
03:30.30vithosbrb pulling
03:31.07vithosand it's on my player model name tag and chat, both
03:34.36vithoslol i hate threat on this
03:34.46Apocoyou adn me both
03:34.50vithos60 seconds in and the offtank has 20k threat because he was conflagged first
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03:37.09CIA-4203starlon * r74364 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Set the capture frame's level to that of the capture frame so the overlapping close button can be clicked on the header side.
03:39.09starlonso yeah I'm thinking that commit msg makes total sense
03:42.58CIA-4203Kriery * r74365 10FuBar_QuestsFu/koKR.lua:
03:42.58CIA-42FuBar_QuestsFu:
03:42.58CIA-42- koKR Update
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03:48.50koliew00
03:48.57kolieI got the curse client to compile in linux yay.
04:06.08Coreyis there a way to track whats causing Interface action failed because of an addon.
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04:07.45Arrowmasterinstall bugsack, disable the hide addon errors option
04:10.57Coreyahh
04:11.02Coreyi got bugsack already just not that option
04:11.29breserCorey: Once you've done what dylanm has said....
04:11.55breserAfter you've had a taint issue the next time you log out of the game there will be a taint.log file in your Logs directory under your WoW install.
04:12.03breserWith the details of supposedly what caused that taint.
04:12.39breserYou may want to keep in mind that the taint log can be wrong and point the finger at the wrong addons, especially if Blizzard's own code caused the taint (which has happened).
04:14.18Coreyhmm
04:16.34Coreyi dont even notice what its doing thats not normal
04:16.38Coreyeverything seems to be working fine
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04:34.10Arrowmasterblizzards own code doesnt taint
04:34.51Arrowmastertaint is from other addons changing something the blizzard code uses
04:34.54Xinhuannot true, Blizzard_FeedbackUI taints a whole lot :D
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04:36.24Arrowmasterthat doesnt count
04:36.29Arrowmastersince its ptr only
04:36.50Arrowmasterbut yeah Blizzard_FeedbackUI taints almost everything
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04:45.06CIA-42AckisRecipeList:
04:45.06CIA-42- Update locale koKR
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04:55.07Groktarthen i discovered shadowmelding on it
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05:56.18ArrowmasterGroktar: ill laugh when a druid finds you and puts thorns on you
05:56.39Fisker-rapes Arrowmaster
05:57.09Arrowmastersprays Fisker- with mace and calls pest controll
05:57.35Fisker-is unstoppable and proceeds until such a time that time itself ends
05:59.38Fisker-i'm bored :(
05:59.49Fisker-i want the white snow
06:03.41CIA-4203sayclub * r74368 10Parrot/Locales/ParrotLocale-koKR.lua:
06:03.41CIA-42Parrot :
06:03.41CIA-42- koKR Update.
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06:42.59CIA-4203funkydude * r74369 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist
06:55.13ZhinjioA body at rest cannot be stopped.
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07:11.17Daemonamornin'
07:11.34Daemonaanyone know the reason for euro-rolling restarts?
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07:20.17ToadkillerSunTsu: Hey did you get my forum post?
07:22.21Orionshockaah, fk, how do you login to the dev.wowace.com svn site with tortouise SVN?
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07:23.05nevcairielyou enter your username and password, and be happy?
07:23.23Orionshockno prompt... but i might be doing this wrong
07:23.38Fisker-anyone here decent at C#/ASP.Net? :P
07:24.07mitch0fisker: I hate ASP with passion. does that count? :)
07:24.23Fisker-no!
07:24.47Toadkillernope
07:24.48CIA-4203orionshock * r74371 10/branches/GuildCraft2/: Created folder remotely
07:26.35Orionshockah there we go, use correct URL and get correct response :D
07:28.52theoddone33horde on alleria got their first illidan kill like yesterday
07:28.58CIA-4203orionshock * r74372 10/branches/GuildCraft2/ (10 files): GuildCraft2: Commit base files
07:28.59theoddone33not very far behind at all
07:31.00ZhinjioOrionshock: whats new in GC2?
07:31.11OrionshockZhinjio: recode mostly
07:31.23Zhinjionods
07:31.39Orionshocki learn how to do somethings better :D
07:35.05Orionshockbut i need a new color for debug messages... i use a greenish color for it atm..
07:41.05CIA-4203starlon * r74373 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Truncate combat log events that are too wide for the capture window. /crossfingers
07:42.03Orionshocklua> return .1
07:42.07Orionshock...
07:42.13Elkanohmm, is BadBoy totaly based on blacklist or does it also use heuristics for blocking?
07:42.22nevcairielonly black lists
07:43.07Elkanosince I had a few false positives with SpamSentry and that would be bad with auto-reporting
07:43.35nevcairielheuristic algorithms are not really needed for stuff like simple spam detection
07:45.01Elkanowell, I don't know how SpamSentry does it but since there had been false positives that didn't look like coming from a blacklist I think it's using some sort of heuristic. ^^
07:45.53syerenWTB profalbert :<
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07:53.06[Ammo]morning
07:54.46nevcairielmorning [Ammo]
07:54.50Cheadsis it only the S3 shoulders that require a certain ranking?
07:55.18nevcairielCheads: the weapons too
07:56.04Cheadsok thanks
07:56.49Cheadsnot that I'll ever get any nice ranking pvp'ing in my early ssc gear =)
08:00.11DaemonaElkano the report about false positives i know about was like ... random player "buy gold at <blacklisted url>" lololol stupid advertisement
08:00.44Daemonadunno how you wanna prevent that by not even delaying chat processing with a /who and check for like lvl 20 and higher and then not trigger
08:00.51nevcairielthose people deserve bans =P
08:00.53Elkanona, I had a few guild recruitments handled as fps
08:01.19nevcairielquoting ads is stupid, just adds more to the ad :P
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08:02.12Daemonaand i think funkeh is using some sort of blacklist combined with some added regular expression checks
08:02.18Daemonadidnt look at the source for some time
08:03.10smoke_is there a mod that i can announce when a rogue kicks me?
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08:07.24CIA-4203starlon * r74374 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua:
08:07.24CIA-42CombatAlarm:
08:07.24CIA-42- Escape expression chars in the pattern when reapplying colors to the combat event after truncating.
08:07.24CIA-42- Remove item links from combat log events. Maybe more?
08:10.21starlonsmoke_ CombatAlarm can turn your screen red when you get kicked
08:10.54starlonI haven't worked in announces yet.
08:18.18CIA-4203Xameni * r74375 10GhostPulse/Locale-deDE.lua:
08:18.18CIA-42GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-19
08:18.18CIA-42- deDE update (CCExpiryWatcher.lua added)
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08:19.37Tandis this an appropriate place to ask for updater client help?
08:19.43smoke_does combat alarm have a whitelist/filter feature?
08:21.15Tandwhenever i open up WAU, i can see in taskmanager the process pops up, but it immediatly closes for some odd reason
08:25.49OrionshockZhinjio: ping
08:25.53CIA-4203orionshock * r74376 10/branches/GuildCraft2/ (5 files): GuildCraft2: move code around, start moving most functions out of core and into modules, atleast for TradeSkillScanner and ChoiceUI
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08:29.17Funkeh`Elkano, badboy could never FP on guild ads
08:32.29DaemonaFunkeh` whats the best way to check if the target got me targeted? UnitGUID("player") = UnitGUID("playertargettarget") seems to fail :/
08:33.18Funkeh`UnitIsUnit("target", "targetarget")
08:33.40nevcairielUnitIsUnit("targettarget", "player") actually
08:33.43Funkeh`if ^ then
08:34.08Daemonadoooh....
08:34.26Daemonatoo stupid to read far enough down on wowwiki unit functions :(
08:34.31nevcairielalso, comparison is ==
08:34.37nevcairielnot ?
08:34.39nevcairielnot =
08:34.40nevcairiel:)
08:34.55DaemonaQQ
08:35.03Daemonaso mine would have worked if i had used ==
08:35.08nevcairielprobably
08:35.13Daemonayup, returns true
08:35.29Daemonawhy cant all prog langs use = for equal -.-
08:35.35Daemonaseems i really need to read up more...
08:35.52nevcairielonly language i know that uses = for equal is crazy pascal
08:36.07Funkeh`WHAT THE HELL
08:36.11Daemonawhich is what i first learned programming with 10 years ago :/
08:36.15Funkeh`I mean
08:36.37Funkeh`heh
08:36.41Funkeh`my first was comal
08:36.59nevcairielmy first was pascal too
08:37.04Daemonadamn you are right, ... i had comal in 8th grade
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08:37.18Daemonapascal was first semester ;)
08:37.34Daemonawith mouse painting recursive tree'S
08:37.35Daemona<3
08:38.02Daemonaand then you overdid the recursion count and the 468 dx66 would stall :(
08:38.03nevcairieli taught myself pascal in 6th grade or so
08:38.21Daemonaeer 486 ...
08:41.32Arrowmasteri actually cant remember any of the original programing i did, my moms told me what i used to do on our first computer but i was so young i dont remember any of it
08:42.18Daemonahehe, its a pity i like the hardware stuff more.... i only do programming when i have...
08:42.26Daemonahave to do it
08:42.35Daemonaor i feel the urge to try something
08:42.41Arrowmasterkinda the same
08:42.55Daemona.... like ... how to play a affliction warlock with 9 macros and 1 button -.-
08:43.29theoddone332v2 skirmishes are fun
08:43.38theoddone33got into one with another disc priest against pally rogue
08:43.46Daemonakinda, see what was possible pre-2.0 until they fix automacro ;)
08:43.59theoddone33rogue couldn't kill the priest, and I just kept the pally drained
08:44.10harldephinso everyone using omen in a party has to have the exact same version to have omen display their threat values? why's that?
08:44.12theoddone33they afk'd after like 5 or 6 minutes
08:44.22nevcairielDaemona: pre-2.0 you could write lua ingame bots *shrug
08:44.56Daemonahehe i miss the titan-something "autorun to corpse"
08:44.56Daemona;)
08:45.10theoddone33hah
08:49.21Daemonathe only thing i miss currently is something to trigger nightfall shadowbolts ;)
08:49.57Daemonabut i cant be assed to figure out how to selfbuff scan ;)
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09:04.41CIA-4203ggcall * r74377 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-zhCN.lua:
09:04.41CIA-42FuBar_ReagentFu:
09:04.41CIA-42-fix zhcn file
09:05.27CIA-4203nargiddley 07RC1 * r74378 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-TabGroup.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: TabGroup: Size tabs to fill the row they are in.
09:09.27CIA-4203ammo * r74379 10MoneyTrail/ (. MoneyTrail.lua MoneyTrail.toc):
09:09.27CIA-42MoneyTrail: Initial Import
09:09.27CIA-42- Shows an overview of the money on your characters for the current realm
09:09.27CIA-42- Hover the moneyframe in your bags to show the overview.
09:09.27CIA-42- Currently supports blizzard backpack and combuctor
09:09.28CIA-42- TODO: add gain/loss information
09:10.08Daemona[Ammo] whats the intended benefit over fubar_moneyfu?
09:10.24[Ammo]no always up display
09:10.27[Ammo]no fubar
09:10.29[Ammo]no framework
09:10.33[Ammo]tiny :)
09:10.40[Ammo]classcolored names!
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09:14.19Fisker-[Ammo] any fubar plugin?
09:14.20Fisker-HOHOHO
09:14.24Fisker-laughs himself to death
09:14.41CIA-4203hegarol * r74380 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
09:14.41CIA-42AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
09:14.41CIA-42- new Kil'Jaeden items
09:14.42CIA-42- 2.4.2 changes (Main Hand --> One-Hand)
09:14.45Fisker-infact
09:14.54Fisker-someone should make Fubar_MoneyTrail just to piss you off
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09:16.29CIA-4203ammo * r74382 10MoneyTrail/MoneyTrail.lua: MoneyTrail: add total on all characters to tooltip
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09:22.24CIA-4203ggcall * r74384 10FuBar_ReagentFu/FuBar_ReagentFu.toc:
09:22.24CIA-42FuBar_ReagentFu:
09:22.24CIA-42-fix toc file
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09:25.43CIA-4203profalbert * r74385 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua:
09:25.43CIA-42Parrot:
09:25.43CIA-42- fixed bug when no player-damage was showing right after login.
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09:26.18ElkanoFunkeh`, why wouldn't it fp on guild ads? (meaning recruitments in eg trade)
09:27.05CIA-4203hegarol * r74386 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua:
09:27.05CIA-42AtlasLoot_OldInstances:
09:27.05CIA-42- 2.4.2 changes (Main Hand --> One-Hand)
09:27.53CIA-4203hegarol * r74387 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:
09:27.53CIA-42AtlasLoot_RepFactions:
09:27.53CIA-42- 2.4.2 changes (Main Hand --> Off-Hand)
09:28.00Tandooo is parrot functional again?
09:29.00profalbertjep
09:29.12profalbertit worked after reloading
09:29.21profalbertjust not right after login
09:29.36Tandso reload after every login? or just the first?
09:29.51profalbertit's fixed in 74385
09:30.10Tandit doesnt really matter, getting rid of MLK is worth a /rl to get parrot back =)
09:31.13TandWAU apparently hating my computer doesnt help though, been trying some new svn updaters
09:31.16Tandany suggestions?
09:31.22profalbertjwu
09:31.26profalbertjwowupdater
09:32.10Tandhmm havent tried that one thanks /google
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09:42.38Fisker-i will destroy you
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09:46.09CIA-4203hegarol * r74390 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
09:46.09CIA-42AtlasLoot:
09:46.09CIA-42- new TCG loot
09:46.10CIA-4203hegarol * r74389 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua:
09:46.10CIA-42AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
09:46.11CIA-42- new TCG loot
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09:46.15CIA-42AtlasLoot:
09:46.17CIA-42- more small fixes in esES
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09:49.51Funkeh`Elkano, theres nothing in guild ads for it to detect
09:50.34Arrowmasterso my dad asks me to come in the other room and take a look at his computer
09:50.54Arrowmastertheres a popup from avast saying too many similair emails were trying to be sent at the same time
09:51.29Kalrothow
09:51.31profalbertlol
09:51.39Arrowmasternetwork cable yanked now until i remove the spam bot and firewall his computer from being able to send smtp emails at my router
09:51.56Arrowmastersince he only uses webmail
09:51.59CIA-4203jerry 07Ace3 * r74391 10Grid/Grid2/ (23 files in 2 dirs):
09:51.59CIA-42Grid2:
09:51.59CIA-42_ Add optional blinking to indicators
09:52.00CIA-42_ Reworked indicator and status interface to allow blinking status
09:52.00CIA-42_ Add support for "spacer" layout type.
09:52.00CIA-42_ Merge the layout objects with their frame.
09:53.50CIA-4203jerry * r74392 10lern2count/Core.lua: lern2count: typo fix. Thanks Zelgadis.
09:54.40CIA-4203borlox * r74393 10/branches/Raindrop/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
09:54.40CIA-42Raindrop:
09:54.40CIA-42- remove unneeded DropDownGroup.lua
09:54.40CIA-42- add debug versions
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09:58.26Fibonacci1618Would anyone mind pointing me in the right direction on this http://www.pastey.net/88038. It somehow breaks when in combat and I need zoning before it works again. tried looking at Bar4, to maybe get some points, but my code skill are way too low for that :)
09:58.38Arrowmastergod i really need to change my ssh private key phrase, it so easy to typo due to the balance between hands you type the letters with
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09:59.03exor674Arrowmaster: change it to ********
10:00.06ArrowmasterFibonacci1618: thats because you cant do :Hide() in combat
10:00.18[Ammo]Fibonacci1618: change it to a oneliner: ShapeshiftBarFrame.Show = function() end; ShapeshiftBarFrame:Hide()
10:00.46[Ammo]not sure if it would work, but at least you get rid of all the bloat :p
10:00.54Arrowmasterexor674: and thats too short, my passphrase is over 15 chars
10:01.25Arrowmasterand im not going to shorten it
10:01.40Fibonacci1618hehe yeah, getting a lot of flak on that :) "Why do you  use a framework for something that simple" "Because I can't get it to work otherwise" :D
10:01.52[Ammo]try the one line I gave you :)
10:01.53Fibonacci1618I'll have a swing at it
10:02.37Arrowmasterthe oneliner might taint but if it doesnt you could always use a script to just move it offscreen
10:02.44Arrowmasterer does
10:03.32[Ammo]it might taint indeed, but it will taint a bar you don't want to see anyway :)
10:04.00Arrowmasteri was thinking ui manage frame possitions code
10:04.12[Ammo]hmm yeah
10:04.14[Ammo]ohwell :)
10:05.08CIA-4203digmouse * r74394 10GhostPulse/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
10:05.08CIA-42GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-19
10:05.08CIA-42-zhCN and TW update
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10:06.32CIA-42CombatAlarm:
10:06.32CIA-42- Add more select fields and localization strings.
10:06.32CIA-42- Validate text fields in alarms as valid lua regexp.
10:10.05Fibonacci1618It didn't work :(
10:10.13Fibonacci1618doesn't*
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10:11.10CIA-42DrDamage:
10:11.10CIA-42- Apparently Thundering Strikes crit is already taken into account on the char screen, removed manual adding
10:11.10CIA-42- Fixed weapon buff function not returning rank properly (this should allow windfury to display correctly in the attack tooltip again)
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10:12.30Arrowmasterheh forgot how awesome tomato is, already got smtp blocked just from using the webinterface, didnt even have to muck with iptables myself
10:14.00Fisker-slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout
10:14.30CIA-4203dodge * r74398 10CoolDownButtons/ (10 files in 5 dirs): CoolDownButtons: Expiring Cooldowns Module added
10:14.41CIA-4203dodge 072.1 * r74399 10CoolDownButtons/Locales/koKR.lua: CoolDownButtons: updated koKR.lua
10:15.31CIA-4203morgalm * r74400 10MorgDKP/ (11 files): (log message trimmed)
10:15.31CIA-42MorgDKP:
10:15.31CIA-42* Fixed nil error with changing dkp through dewdrop menu
10:15.31CIA-42* Changed the way player item database is stored with up to 50% smaller SV files
10:15.31CIA-42* Added end raid popup with attendees not added to run yet listed (turn autozone off to disable it)
10:15.34CIA-42* Fixed Kazrogal and Azgalor detect strigns for ML
10:15.36CIA-42* Fixed attendees not being added to run event
10:15.45starlonI wonder if things like Miss Type, environmental type, etc.. in combat log events are translated in your language.
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10:18.16Arrowmasterthese viruses are getting pesky
10:18.36CIA-4203dodge 072.1 * r74401 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/Expiring_Cooldowns.lua: CoolDownButtons: ooops, file was missing *confused*
10:18.43GagorianDon't you love it when people report bugs you've fixed 5 revisions ago.
10:18.46Gagorian:<
10:18.51TNSeyes Gagorian
10:19.02Arrowmasteri wonder how many get stoped by the fact that my dads account is only a normal user and not an admin or poweruser
10:19.07TNSeso when are you fixing offhand damage on (Something you fixed 5 revisions ago)
10:19.17[Ammo]Arrowmaster: use a proper antivirus program?
10:19.29Arrowmaster[Ammo]: avast4home 4.8
10:19.30ramozwhats cladhaire
10:19.30[Ammo]Arrowmaster: I know Antivir has been top of the most recent tests
10:19.32GagorianTNSe: Indeed
10:19.36ramozs book called again?
10:19.40GagorianI love spending my time tracking those down
10:20.00Arrowmasterso annoying to keep switching antivirus scanners on that computer
10:20.10Arrowmasteri just use kaspersky on mine
10:20.13BrunersAvira ftw
10:20.14[Ammo]I have used Antivir for over 4 years
10:20.16TNSeI had a weird error on my shammy the other day,  but I didnt save it
10:20.18TNSe:P
10:20.21[Ammo]no infection yet
10:20.23TNSeenh. shammy
10:20.34[Ammo]and it hasn't been beaten on antivirus tests in the last 2 years :)
10:20.40Bruners[Ammo]: have you ever had virus ?
10:20.41TNSeI think I mouseovered the attack button and got an error.
10:20.46[Ammo]Bruners: nope
10:20.54Arrowmasteri thougth bitdefender or whatever was the top one last year
10:21.02[Ammo]Arrowmaster: nope
10:22.03TNSeGagorian, during your modding days , have you come over an addon that tracks how long during a fight debuffs is up on a mob and how long buffs is up on you during a fight? :P
10:23.08Brunerslast time i had something that was infected, was some diskettes i got from a friend on my 486-pc
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10:23.32TNSeso I could like see if mages keep 100% uptime on scorch, 100% uptime on curses, 100% uptime on faerie fire, etc.
10:23.41TNSereplace mage for respective class
10:23.46starlonWhere can I find combat logs? I need ones from foreign language clients.
10:24.00starlonSurely someone keeps them.
10:25.35sbTNSe: try http://code.google.com/p/stasiscl/
10:25.35GagorianTNSe: Not that I know of. I've planned writing one on a few occasions
10:25.53GagorianMainly to track imp. shadowbolt but could work by inputting anything
10:26.44TNSeyes
10:27.01GagorianBut I respecced fire so I didn't care as much :P
10:27.13TNSesb, something like that, except I want it realtime and have dynamic logging
10:27.19TNSeI dont know if you have seen recount
10:27.27TNSewheer it makes segments every time you enter/leave combat
10:27.40TNSeeasiest way would probably be to program it into recount :P
10:28.46TNSebut I want it to track buffs on self (see if we're managing 100% drum uptime), how much effect I'm actually getting out of Use: trinkets
10:29.07TNSeProcwatch almost does it as well but not all I want
10:29.12[SW]Dodgesomeone knows an addon that allows to hide where priece/ea is > value x? like hide all netherweave cloth > 15s ea? or... show all entherwave cloth < 15s ea ? :)
10:29.21TNSeauctioner? :P
10:29.43[SW]DodgeTNSe: didnt found an option like that :(
10:30.27TNSesort by price
10:30.33TNSecheck for /each instead of stack
10:32.15[SW]Dodgemy AH shows only price per stack
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10:36.11CIA-4203ammo * r74402 10MoneyTrail/ (MoneyTrail.lua MoneyTrail.toc): MoneyTrail: add Baggins and OneBag support
10:36.41Daemonaif you have auctioneer you will have a "[ ] price per" in the lower left
10:38.19[SW]Dodgeah... nice :D
10:38.28[SW]Dodgedidnt see that checkbox before ;D
10:40.31TNSe>_<
10:40.40TNSethey added it not long ago
10:41.14[SW]Dodgeit must be at least 1-2 month ago, i didnt had updated since then ;D
10:41.51TNSeGagorian, anyway, wouldn't you need such an addon to measure how long of the fight scorch is up? :P
10:42.00TNSeeven tho you no longer are destro :P
10:42.18GagorianWell I'm destro still :P
10:42.22GagorianScorch is mainly mages problem
10:42.29GagorianBut ofc I could shout at them... hmmmmmm
10:42.30TNSeI mean proper destro
10:42.36GagorianFire is proper destro!
10:42.39TNSeNO
10:42.39GagorianDidn't you get the memo
10:42.57TNSeShadow is proper destro as you get synergy with healers.
10:43.09GagorianUnless you can get a imp. shadowbolt uptime of about 75-80% fire DPS is higher
10:43.29TNSeso you have 2 reasons to make this addon :P
10:43.43TNSe1: yell at mages
10:43.54TNSe2: see how much uptime you can keep on imp. sbolt
10:44.05TNSe3: see how much effect you are getting out of trinkets REALLY.
10:44.19TNSeoh thats a 3rd one :P
10:44.28TNSeProcWatch is nice but it is limited
10:44.36ennuilgAt the moment, Scorchio! is hardcoded to only run on mage toons, but next version will run on any char so you can keep an eye on the scorch debuff...
10:44.45TNSelike I got this Bangle of Endless blessings which has both proc and use, but I dont realy know how much effect I'm really getting
10:45.05TNSeennuilg, but it would need to work on all debuffs and buffs :P
10:45.14TNSepreferrably with pie graphs like recount XD
10:45.29GagorianWe have 0% uptime on imp. sbolt since all locks are fire :P
10:45.33ennuilgI have often thought about extending it to different "stacking" debuffs for other classes, but it's never going to be a generic "debuff monitor".
10:45.48TNSewell, I want a generic debuff/buff monitor
10:45.54TNSethat basically keeps track of effective uptime
10:46.03TNSeso I know who to yell at for slacking
10:46.44TNSelike, I'd want to see ~100% uptime on CoE/Scorch, in addition to ~90% uptime on flame shock from the enh. shammy
10:46.45TNSeand so on
10:47.09TNSe0% uptime on serpent sting >_<
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10:49.34koliehullo.
10:50.28TNSewould also help rogues see if they keep poisons up 100% :P
10:53.13ennuilgTNSe, it's a massive increase in scope, but for the life of me I can't see a reason why Scorchio! couldn't be extended to cover pretty much any debuff... I'll have a think and see if I can concoct a reason not to embark on what sounds like work!
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10:55.14Xinhuanbecause that should really be a different addon
10:55.17Xinhuannot scorchio
10:55.25mikmahttp://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN1538938220080516
10:55.53ennuilgWell I agree Xin - but I can't see /why/... Apart from the name.
10:56.43Xinhuanbecause current users of scorchio can't care less about non-mage stuff
10:57.43ennuilgFair enough... So, is the solution to create a "Debuffio" which includes Scorch too, or to develop debuff addons for each debuff? I guess making modules, and allowing Scorchio! to be one module that runs on its own or in the full set is a way to go.
10:59.53Xinhuanmaybe a class-based solution
11:00.17Xinhuanif mages wanted to monitor every debuff rather than scorch, they would have gotten NECB
11:00.20ennuilgBut I think TNSe is looking for a way to "overview" the debuff situation, independent of the overviewer's class.
11:00.53sicahm, I'm a shadowpriest and I use Debuff Filter to show me which relevant debuffs are currently up
11:00.55Xinhuani think what TNSe wants is very different from bars showing timers left
11:00.58TNSelol
11:01.02TNSedebuffio?
11:01.08TNSebut it needs to track uptime of my own buffs too
11:01.21Daemonaennuilg *cough* demon *cough*
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11:01.49TentacledI'm trying to do an update of a bug in Cartographer2, as allowed by ckknight himself - but I get a 403 error, and I don't know whether it's for lack of some permissions or a general error...
11:01.59ennuilgCough it to TNSe , not me! I'm trying to avoid doing any work!
11:02.59ennuilgDemon: Debuff Monitor: A Powerful & Configurable Raiding Tool
11:03.00DaemonaTNSe
11:03.04ennuilgMight be worth the look...
11:03.05Daemonaexactly
11:03.38ArrowmasterTentacled: commit to dev.wowace.com not svn.wowace.com
11:04.03Xinhuano_O, he just wants something to see uptime/downtime of debuffs, which can be analysed after a wipe
11:04.13Xinhuannot something to config buffs or show bars in combat!
11:04.32Xinhuanvery different things!
11:05.33ennuilgSo, a sort of ProcMeter for debuffs?
11:05.52TNSesica, currently up isnt enough :P
11:05.59TNSeI want to make sure misery has 100% uptime
11:06.05TNSesw:p and vt near 100%
11:06.32CIA-4203feithar * r74403 10FBagOfHolding/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
11:06.32CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
11:06.32CIA-42- Added tiphooker library, which I had forgotten on the initial import.
11:06.51TNSeennuilg, yes, ProcMeter for debuffs *and buffs*
11:06.52TNSemy own buffs
11:07.31ennuilgOK - I see now. In which case, Xinhuan is right (as usual) - definitely not within the scope of Scorchio! - extended or otherwise. Once again, I dodge the work bullet!
11:08.03TNSe:P
11:08.10TNSehehe
11:08.13TNSewish recount could do it
11:08.20TNSeit has all the facilities to display the information
11:08.35TNSeit has a DOT uptime window
11:10.50CIA-4203SinusPi * r74404 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer: fixed a case in which GetCurrentPlayerPosition keeps returning nils after once receiving nils from Tourist:TransposeZoneCoordinate.
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11:16.11[SW]DodgeLol... waitig for 186 Auctions i bid on =)
11:16.32SinusPi*cough*Auctioneer hogging*cough* :>
11:16.43CIA-4203SinusPi * r74405 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/Waypoints.lua: Cartographer_Waypoints: fixed a case when Cartographer:GetCurrentPlayerPosition returning nils resulted in immediate removal of waypoints (esp. at login time)
11:17.04[SW]Dodgehogging?
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11:17.37SinusPiwell not really hogging, just it's a fsckload of auctions and all. :)
11:17.52[SW]Dodgeyea, and i hope to win all :D
11:17.59[SW]Dodgethat will be a BIG profit ^^
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11:19.19[SW]Dodgei need an AH that got an mailbox+vendor direct next to the auction guy
11:19.21digmouse~seen apoco
11:19.23purlapoco is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 5h 38m 16s, last said: 'rwar'.
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11:32.26Zyndromeok, which one of you robbed both banks in my town... again!?
11:32.27Zyndrome:<
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11:38.19CIA-4203ammo * r74406 10MoneyTrail/MoneyTrail.lua: MoneyTrail: show gain/loss statistics for session
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11:42.05CIA-4203pettigrow * r74408 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update
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11:53.11Brunersbest alternative to Enchantrix that comes with Auctioneer ?
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12:00.02CIA-4203Bangerz * r74411 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/BangLibramSwap.lua:
12:00.02CIA-42Bang!_Libram_Swap:
12:00.02CIA-42-Prot swap change, typo fix
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12:03.04CIA-4203feithar * r74412 10FBagOfHolding/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
12:03.04CIA-42FBagOfHolding:
12:03.04CIA-42- Added drop down menus for most of the standard filters that need them.
12:03.24CIA-4203zeksie * r74413 10ZOMGBuffs/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
12:03.24CIA-42ZOMGBuffs:
12:03.24CIA-42- Fixed reagent count being 1 too few.
12:03.24CIA-42- Fixed small rare error in Blessings module.
12:05.49CIA-4203ammo * r74414 10MoneyTrail/MoneyTrail.lua: MoneyTrail: formatting tweaks
12:07.44Snago[Ammo]: You have a screenshot on MoneyTrail?
12:09.54[Ammo]Snago: nope, but it is basically a tooltip when you hover the moneyframe in your bags
12:10.08[Ammo]it supports blizzard bags, combuctor, onebag and baggins
12:10.54Snago[Ammo]: A tooltip like the MoneyFu-tooltip?
12:11.04[Ammo]somewhat similar yes
12:11.05Zhinjio<3 Auditor
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12:13.27Xinhuanwhat does moneytrail's tooltip show?
12:13.36[Ammo]download and go see
12:13.44[Ammo]or read the source, it's small enough
12:13.56Xinhuani'll possibly take a peek later
12:14.10Xinhuancurrently smashing my face on brutallus's butt
12:14.35Xinhuanand there's this silly restart across all realms going on right now
12:14.37Fisker-make a fubar plugin for it Xinhuan
12:14.38Fisker-hoho
12:14.56Xinhuanammo will be the first person to svn delete it haha
12:16.32mikmaWOOHOO! ASSES! http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/paawkx/ass-young-cute-0611.jpg
12:16.42Fisker-POWERFUL ENEMY MIKMA
12:16.43Fisker-VERY
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12:19.18Fisker-rigs mikma to a bombvest
12:20.13SinusPiBruners: and what's wrong with Enchantrix..? (not that I've used it in the last, like, year)
12:20.18mikmaFisker-: got you again?
12:20.26Fisker-no
12:20.27Fisker-but i'll still destroy you
12:20.59mikmawhy?
12:21.04mikmayou no liek asses kekekeke?
12:21.17Fisker-your motherr
12:23.51ramozmikma: SFW?
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12:24.05mikmaramoz: yes
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12:35.17Zyndromepokes Funkeh`
12:35.38Zyndrome"k4gold"
12:36.04ramozmikma: i'm dissapointed
12:36.08Zyndromemaybe I should just add common spambot words into the filters and not give a damn about who it reports
12:36.16ncd|Aileenmh, does anyone have an idea how to equip items via their itemid?
12:36.56Zyndrome/equip item:XXXXXX ?
12:36.58mikmaFunkeh`: ping!
12:37.05ncd|Aileenmh, in an addon
12:37.44dylanmHave you tried EquipItemByName?
12:37.49dylanmI think it can take an id.
12:37.55ncd|Aileenmh, ok :)
12:37.56ncd|Aileenthanks
12:37.56purlno worries, ncd|Aileen
12:38.49dylanmWhat's with purl?
12:39.16ramozthanks
12:39.17purlramoz: gern geschehen
12:39.20ramoz:)
12:39.52dylanmgracias
12:39.58dylanmHmph.
12:40.22CIA-4203toadkiller * r74415 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua:
12:40.22CIA-42AutoBar :
12:40.22CIA-42-- Fix locale issues with Charge Button. Tx SunTsu!
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12:42.13Nandinihas there ever been talk about restricting warlocks' banish to demons, and letting shamans train "banish elemental"?
12:43.16Nandinii don't know why it never occurred to me before, it just seems obvious
12:44.08ramoztbh, i cant remember the last time i banished a elemental?
12:44.12ramozoh wait, hydross
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12:44.47sicaramoz: MgT?
12:45.03ramozi've only seen a demon there :P
12:45.16sicaa, dammit, you're right -.-
12:45.40ramozif your thinking about the third boss and the succubus gurls
12:45.44Nandinior perhaps give elemental shamans a talented totem to "dominate elemental"
12:46.41ramozoO
12:46.44ramozthat would be awesome
12:47.00Nandinior "harness elemental" or something to that effect
12:47.53Nandinii've never actually played a shaman, but it seems that most other classes (even hybrids) have some limited form of CC, even if it can only be used against certain mobs or in certain situations
12:48.33Nandinidruids hibernate, pallies turn evil, rogues sap, warriors intim. shout
12:48.45Nandinishackle undead, etc.
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12:49.26Nandiniit just seems like controlling elementals would be right up a shaman's alley
12:50.06ramozhunter scare baest
12:50.07ramozbeast
12:50.23Nandiniyup
12:50.41ramozand they wont have to unbalance it for pvp since it can only be used against shamans
12:51.01Nandiniit could be used against mages, but locks can already do that if they want
12:51.26Nandinii just don't quite understand why locks care about elementals or know how to banish them better than a shaman could. heheh
12:53.16CIA-4203toadkiller * r74416 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarClassBar.lua Core.lua):
12:53.16CIA-42AutoBar :
12:53.16CIA-42-- Handle Colors for ButtonFacade, as well as settings at AutoBar level.
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12:53.41Nandinias a druid, i'm practically giddy over the abundance of dragonkin in wotlk, finally something i'm good at CCing!
12:54.15Nandinimaybe there will be lots of bears and wolves to hibernate too
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12:55.21ramoztheres dwagons in SW!
12:56.21Cheadshibernate onyxia so she won't deep breath more!
12:56.33[Ammo]GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine(data.diff > 0 and L.profit or L.loss,MoneyString(data.diff))
12:56.36[Ammo]woops
12:56.38[Ammo]bad mouse
12:57.06Nandini"You're getting sleeeeeeepy. Very, very, sleeeeeeeeeeepy."
12:58.31CIA-4203ammo * r74417 10MoneyTrail/MoneyTrail.lua: MoneyTrail: small formatting tweak
13:01.11Funkeh`mikma, pong
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13:04.43TNSeoh wait, recount can track buffs on self/bosses >_<
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13:07.18TNSejust dont know how to have it displayed.
13:08.18Tandany fix or another addon that can show me how i died(like recount used to be able to)?
13:09.06nevcairielTand: i use Expiration for that
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13:11.22mikmaFunkeh`: ChatCopy fails with Items
13:11.26mikmaFunkeh`: way to fix that?
13:11.40Funkeh`you tell me
13:12.49mikmayes, you can fix it.
13:13.21CIA-4203funkydude * r74418 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist
13:14.11Funkeh`mikma, go on
13:14.30mikmaFunkeh`: your turn to tell me
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13:17.26ramozTand: another alternative is GrimReaper
13:18.17Tandis Expiration party death only or raid wide?
13:18.23nevcairielraid
13:18.24Tandthanks i'll check out Grim too
13:18.24purlsure thing, Tand
13:18.27Tandahh cool cool
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13:49.01SinusPiI may be a moron, but please tell me... Do all dev.wowace hosted addons share a common rev number? Or have I done something monstrously stupid, that Cartographer after my tinkering moved from 73088 to 74405?
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13:49.28nevcairielall addons share one rev number in the current setup
13:49.57SinusPiWhew.
13:51.03ckknightSinusPi: omg, you added 1400 revisions to my addon!
13:51.06Dark_Elfthinks thats the order they are uploaded cause i look at the updated files and they all are in sequence
13:51.09ckknight:-P
13:51.21nevcairielwtf happend to hard disk prices .. 116€ für 1TB ? man thats cheap o.O
13:51.49SinusPickknight: hey! that's a LOT of hard work!  *cough* on that one line I added *cough*
13:51.54SinusPi:>
13:51.55ckknighthehe
13:52.12ckknightyea, I'm planning on moving to a new repo system for my new addons anyway
13:52.25ckknightpossibly move my old ones over sometime as well
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13:53.07CIA-4203ammo * r74419 10MiniMapster/: MiniMapster: dump in trunk. works pretty much
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13:55.33Dark_Elfso if one added cart agin it would be 74420 now assuming 74420 isnt taken
13:56.17Chompersckk! good day
13:56.24ckknighthey Chompers
13:56.29Chompershad any time to play your paladin?
13:56.37ckknightnot really, been working on curseforge too much
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14:02.43CIA-4203jerry 07Ace3 * r74420 10Grid/Grid2/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
14:02.43CIA-42Grid2:
14:02.43CIA-42_ Add Death Status.
14:02.43CIA-42_ Add Hostile coloring for Class color. Also add Elemental coloring.
14:03.38ChompersPiratos|: Level 70 Human Warrior <Saroz Fanclub> - Ironforge
14:03.45Chompersoh saroz :<
14:08.07CIA-4203nevcairiel * r74421 10MiniMapster/ (. MiniMapster.toc embeds.xml libs/): MiniMapster: ninja-add externals
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14:27.44CIA-4203jjsheets * r74422 10ButtonFacade/ (ButtonFacade.lua LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua):
14:27.44CIA-42ButtonFacade:
14:27.44CIA-42<PROTECTED>
14:28.29CIA-4203jjsheets * r74423 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Bar.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Borders and Highlights retain their colors set by tags after a BF skin change.
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14:31.38CIA-4203schelli 07Schelli * r74424 10IceHUD_Hunter/ (10 files in 2 dirs): icehud_hunter : added new modules and updated a few options
14:32.53Coreyhiya JJSheets
14:33.00JJSheetsHeya
14:35.01Coreyi had fun playin around with the macros yesterday heh
14:35.35JJSheets:)
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14:48.25Apocodigmouse: ping
14:48.56CIA-4203schelli 07Schelli * r74425 10IceHUD/ (7 files): icehud : removed a few non needed files, modified some elements
14:52.34Lukianyay icehud cleanups :D
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14:53.04DARKGuymornin' :)
14:53.35Lukianlicks DARKGuy
14:53.55DARKGuyo_o
14:54.01DARKGuylicks Lukian back
14:56.39nevcairieltake your licking elsewhere!
14:57.08Fisker-especially licks nevcairiel
14:57.20nevcairielespecially kicks Fisker-
14:57.37nevcairielcannntt ... resssiiisst...
14:57.42*** kick/#wowace [Fisker-!i=nevcairi@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel] by nevcairiel (Look behind you, a three-headed monkey!)
14:57.48Dashkalrofl
14:57.49mikmahahahaha
14:57.52mikmamonkey island!
14:58.16ckknighthehe
14:58.16nevcairielhe doesnt even come back
14:58.18CIA-4203silmano * r74426 10SellOMatic/ (SOM.lua SellOMatic.toc):
14:58.18CIA-42SellOMatic
14:58.18CIA-42- Fixed problem with LibRock
14:58.47nevcairieldid i miss the join spam fun again or why do we have +rR again?
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14:59.22nevcairiellocking out all those poor people that only have a quick question is tragic :(
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15:00.26CIA-4203jerry 07Ace3 * r74427 10Grid/Grid2/ (GridRange.lua modules/StatusRange.lua): Grid2: Add Death case to the range check, use the Resurrection spell of the player.
15:00.40*** mode/#wowace [-rR] by nevcairiel
15:00.49KolieI smell a curse client release today.
15:00.59durcynfunky's friend came back yesterday iirc, nevcairiel
15:01.17nevcairielfunky doesnt have friends
15:01.21KolieToo bad its not the rewrite and its the legacy one :)
15:02.06durcynfriend in the metaphorical sense, as in "that guy who keeps spamming the channel when it's not +r"
15:02.15CIA-4203zhinjio * r74428 10/branches/SKG/ (15 files in 2 dirs):
15:02.15CIA-42SuicideKingsGeo :
15:02.16CIA-42<PROTECTED>
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15:03.05CIA-4203tsigo * r74429 10RaidCooldowns_Display/RaidCooldowns_Display.lua: RaidCooldowns_Display: fix a nil table index
15:03.10DARKGuy2+10 = 12 ^_^
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15:03.22nevcairielthats join throttling
15:03.24ckknightdurcyn: I actually talked with that guy yesterday, he's kind of a douchebag
15:03.29nevcairiellol
15:03.33DARKGuywho? :P
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15:04.38ckknightDARKGuy: BilitronZoram
15:04.51DARKGuyckknight: ah, don't know him :P
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15:05.38CIA-4203silmano * r74430 10SellOMatic/ (SOM.lua SellOMatic.toc):
15:05.38CIA-42SellOMatic:
15:05.38CIA-42- Solved (I hope) addon problem with LibRock.
15:05.38CIA-42- Minor code changes.
15:05.42JJSheetsDamn... I actually have to work a bit today...  see ya'll later, and welcome back Fisker-!
15:06.06nevcairielman Fisker- that took you a while
15:06.31durcynkick him again, +J will take care of the rest
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15:09.51mikma+J is .. ?
15:09.57durcynjoin limit
15:10.14nevcairiela adaptive join limit algorithm, really .P
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15:11.05nevcairielhm maybe i could still trim it down a little
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15:11.12nevcairielthat sounds better
15:11.17evldamnit, fucking impossible to write someting that can detect if a windfury totem is up and active on me
15:11.40evl(even if I have an existing enchant on main hand), any ideas+
15:11.59durcynaura gain is the only thing I can think of
15:12.13mikmaso what does it do?
15:12.19mikmadoesn't let you join back for 1-5 sec?
15:12.20durcynyou can't rely on the totem cast event, since it doesn't indicate range
15:12.48evlHmms, but I don't gain an arura when I get windfury do i
15:13.07durcyntench if you don't already have one
15:13.17mikmaevl: yeah... you know what
15:13.23mikmaevl: i have a code for you
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15:14.33mikmaevl: http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/PoleVault/PoleVault.lua <- see the bottom of the file, the eventbox -stuff
15:14.45evlmikma: cool, ill check it
15:14.49mikmaevl: (this is just for shaman)
15:14.55evlim a rogue :(
15:15.23mikmaevl: then you need to do a buff-check
15:15.28evlIcant
15:15.32evlcause I might have poison on the same hand
15:15.44evlI need to know when I'm using poisons but I should not be using them because I have WF
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15:16.37Tandanyone else having an error with parrot where it only shows pet dmg, and not my(bow) dmg?
15:16.46mykxevl: cant you just see that oh i'm in a group with an enhancement shaman, don't apply totems. why the need for an addon ?
15:16.55mykxor poisons*
15:16.56evlIt's called HUMAN ERROR
15:16.58evl:P
15:16.59evlI forget it
15:17.02evland lose 5-600 DPS
15:17.03evlwee
15:17.11mykxhaha fair enough
15:17.24evlThe whole point of the addon is reminding me
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15:18.48CIA-4203kunda * r74431 10GridStatusTargetName/ (5 files):
15:18.48CIA-42GridStatusTargetName:
15:18.48CIA-42- small tweak
15:18.48CIA-42- use '>' instead of 'T:' before target name
15:18.48CIA-42- use global Blizzard strings for localization
15:19.05DashkalI suppose you could trigger on the totem's create event, but I don't think there's a way to determine if it's actually in your poart
15:19.11Dashkalparty*
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15:19.29evlCan't I scan my party for a matching name?
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15:19.50mykxwell you can see who the totem belongs to right? then just look if the creator is in your group :\
15:19.57Zhinjioso you want to know if the totem is there, even if you're currently out of range of it?
15:20.18evlno, that's the problem I guess
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15:20.29evlI want to know when I should not be using poisons since I have WF
15:20.44Zhinjioit doesn't show up as a weapon enchant?
15:20.49Vonhintennot if you have poisons on
15:20.58Zhinjiooh!
15:21.00Zhinjioaha.
15:21.02Zhinjionow I get you
15:21.07Psycho|WorkI find it difficult to believe that windfury is worth 500 DPS in any situation =P
15:21.08DashkalIf wf isn't appearing on your buff bar naturally due to the poison, you aren't going to get 100% accuracy.  You're going to have to trap something related and then decide for yourself.
15:21.16Vonhintenyou need to watch for winfury totem combat messages probably, and then cross reference with your group
15:21.26Vonhintenprobably
15:21.47DashkalCan you "unpoison" a weapon anyway?
15:21.50Vonhintenyep
15:21.55Vonhintenclick it off, like a buff
15:22.04nevcairielyup on the buff button
15:22.21Dashkalgood to know.  I didn't know that worked for temp weapon enchants
15:22.44Vonhinten500 dps is a little high, maybe with warglaives it could reach that
15:23.03Psycho|WorkNot a chance imo.
15:23.33Vonhintenit's worth a good amount.. I gain about 200dps
15:24.11evlokay I retract and reaplace it with A LOT OF DPS
15:24.19Vonhintenin ZA+badge gear, not even T6
15:24.19evlthen we won't have some retarded  discussion start
15:24.25Zhinjiocan you cycle through your party's weapon enchants?
15:24.37VonhintenI don't think you can see weapon enchants on other people
15:24.42Vonhintenwithout inspecting them
15:24.45Zhinjioyeah, probably not
15:25.10Zhinjiowell, no.... hmm.
15:25.26Zhinjioyou can see buff/debuff. yeah, probably not weapon enchants though
15:27.08DashkalCan you see the weapon buffs when inspecting?
15:27.23Vonhintenpretty sure
15:27.41ZhinjioI'll test that now.. hang on
15:27.45VonhintenI've checked other rogues in my group to make sure they've dropped poison for WF before
15:28.47Zhinjioyup
15:28.50ZhinjioFlametongue 7
15:29.00Zhinjioshows in the tooltip of the examined weeapon
15:29.02Psycho|WorkFor our best rogue (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Deathwing&n=Rife), DPS spreadsheet says WF is worth about 100 DPS.
15:29.05Zhinjiochecking wf totem
15:29.08Psycho|WorkSorry, I'll drop it now =P
15:29.31Psycho|WorkBut I was honestly curious besides.
15:29.47Psycho|WorkAlso, I can't believe how nice the rogue spreadsheet is compared to the warlock one.
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15:30.05CIA-4203apoco * r74432 10RBM_TotemWatch/TotemWatch.lua: RBM_TotemWatch: Removed debug code
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15:43.40Gnarfozrogue.raidcal.com < the shit
15:43.53Psycho|WorkNo doubt, Gnarfoz
15:44.00VonhintenThat's the one with the gem problem
15:44.06Psycho|WorkI just used that sheet for the first time and I am jealous of rogues intensely.
15:44.35Psycho|Workmykx: Yes, I meant leulier's. Which is getting better rapidly but still doesn't compare to armory import or "lol find upgraed"
15:45.24mykxI like leuliers but you gotta remember, it's a warlock spreadsheet. we spam shadowbolts and refresh curses every 5 minutes
15:45.28Psycho|Worklol
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15:45.37Psycho|WorkYeah, there's not a lot of difficulty for us.
15:45.47Psycho|WorkGet hit-capped, get to 1500 +Damage, get haste.
15:46.02Psycho|Workpress 2
15:46.04DARKGuyis there any for warriors?
15:46.05Vonhinten+make friends with a shadow priest
15:46.06Psycho|WorkTop DPS meters.
15:46.07Psycho|WorkProfit.
15:46.23mykxlol yeah
15:46.23DragonWinis it possible to match on a string, and at the same time pull out some of it while checking it in an if stateme ? like
15:46.29DragonWinif (BidValue = string.match(message, "^!bid%s(%d+).*")) then
15:46.47Psycho|WorkI took some abysmally geared shadowpriest to Hyjal last night because our regular one is on business in Korea, just because the DPS boost for me and my other warlock was high enough to warrant it, rofl
15:47.01VonhintenDragon, .... why
15:47.10DragonWinI don't want to have to match on it twice
15:47.13mykxlol.. hey you apply shadow weaving/misery and we'll take you to the raid
15:47.25DragonWinI need to know if it's a bid (!bid) and I need the value the person bid
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15:48.20Funkeh`Matrix110, absolutely brilliant
15:48.29Funkeh`the ideas they come up with inspire me sometimes
15:48.32Matrix110idd
15:48.33DragonWinor does it not have any performance impact difference if I do it in one go or the match on one and then pull the value out on the next one ?
15:48.51DragonWinnext one = next line
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15:51.13GnarfozFunkeh`: whut? context? ;> spammers again? ^^
15:51.28HjalteI like the idea of Badgewatch, reminding forgetful raid members to pick up their badges, but isn't there a way for an addon to find out who was present in the raid when a boss is killed?
15:52.11Funkeh`Gnarfoz, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12899.msg217591#msg217591
15:52.34GnarfozFunkeh`: LOL
15:52.49Gnarfozsrsly
15:52.50Fisker-Blizzard doesn\t care about europeans btw >*
15:52.52Fisker-:(
15:53.53Fisker-btw Funkeh`
15:53.56Fisker-that's unpossible
15:54.03Funkeh`?
15:54.19Fisker-[17:30:14]BadBoy: Complaint Registered. (Buyatkgsgoldcom)
15:54.44Funkeh`Yeah, Matrix110 is clearly a big liar
15:54.56Chompershush Fisker-
15:55.00Chomperspeople are hard at work
15:55.01Matrix110hmm?
15:55.01Fisker-i know he is
15:55.10Matrix110why? Oo
15:55.12Fisker-the character limit on nicks are 13 characters
15:55.16Fisker-OH SNAP
15:55.31Matrix110well i got that Oo
15:55.52Funkeh`lemme test that
15:55.54Psycho|WorkIs badgewatch actually working now? I turned it on some time ago because it sounded nice and it went crazy and spammed everyone in the raid with tells after we killed Naj'Entus even though everyone picked up their badges that particular time =P
15:56.02Psycho|WorkIt was funny but I turned it off so as not to bug people.
15:56.45Funkeh`um
15:56.50Funkeh`it's 12 chars for me
15:56.51Funkeh`wtf
15:56.56Psycho|WorkHax!
15:56.59HjaltePsycho|Work: Yeah, it is working. The only problem I have with it is, that if you invite new people after killing a boss, it will tell them that they didn't loot the badge.
15:57.02Fisker-i might be remembering wrong
15:57.07Psycho|WorkAh.
15:57.22Funkeh`Matrix110, ZOMG R U A LIER
15:57.35Fisker-YEAH
15:57.37Fisker-lets do this
15:58.04Fisker-GIEV F&F Alpha ;_;
15:58.15Matrix110sec :P
15:59.44Fisker-i kiss your mom Matrix110
15:59.50Matrix110http://i28.tinypic.com/5fqmv5.png
16:00.13Funkeh`Matrix110, that's 12 chars
16:00.37Fisker-still clevar though
16:00.41HjalteI've seen porn actresses wear more clothes than some of the full-equipped female characters of wow >.<
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16:01.05nevcairielHjalte: you watch funky porn
16:01.12Funkeh`nevcairiel, fuck you
16:01.28Fisker-fuck you both
16:01.29Fisker-and kd3 too
16:01.39Fisker-fuck you all in bed
16:01.47nevcairielhaving a name thats a real word must be fun
16:01.55Funkeh`nevcairiel, now gogo hotkey text hiding in bt4
16:01.59Funkeh`nono
16:02.01CIA-4203tsigo * r74434 10StatBlocks_Clock/StatBlocks_Clock.lua: StatBlocks_Clock: Add an alignment option. Get back in line with the other modules, Clock!
16:02.04Funkeh`the ping word funky on irc is fun
16:02.14Funkeh`fucking nihilum trivia bt
16:02.21Funkeh`bot*
16:02.32nevcairieldoes he say funky all the time?
16:02.43Funkeh`now but it has some 'funky' questions
16:03.01Funkeh`something about a funky monkey a sec ago
16:03.23nevcairiellol
16:03.30Funkeh`<triviabot> Question 5: (Arts&Entertainment): Who uttered the question: "King Tut, how'd you get so funky? King Tut, did you do the Monkey?"?
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16:04.05Funkeh`so Matrix110 was it actually only 1 bot? ;p
16:04.33Matrix110ye but I had enhance it a bit:P
16:04.48Funkeh`well done Fisker-
16:04.55Funkeh`you were useful for once in your life
16:05.31Fisker-yes
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16:06.25CIA-4203tsigo * r74435 10StatBlocks_Memory/StatBlocks_Memory.lua: StatBlocks_Memory: Value Color then Label Color, for consistency with other module options.
16:06.29Gnarfozthe only thing that sucks more than Archimonde is failing at Archimonde even though you've been killing him for weeks >_<
16:07.13Funkeh`so FF RC1 actually installs over FF2 now instead of it's own dir
16:07.23Funkeh`so secunia has stopped bitching at me that ff 2 is out of date
16:07.31Fisker-It\s Fx
16:07.50Funkeh`and that's my FF story of the day
16:07.53DARKGuyFF+Glasser = pure win.
16:07.59Fisker-omg it's Fx
16:08.01Fisker-you're killing me
16:08.09Gnarfozit's FF thx
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16:08.13DARKGuytoo much bloom?
16:08.57Psycho|WorkGnarfoz: We had four deaths last night. It was the most frightening archimonde ever.
16:09.15Gnarfoz... we had about 4 and a half hours of Archimonde last night
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16:09.21Psycho|WorkOh. You win.
16:09.28Gnarfozwe had planned on about 30minutes of archimonde (3 tries or whatever)
16:09.31Gnarfozit was mega-fail.
16:09.53Psycho|WorkI was like "WHELP, WE'RE NOT LEAVING UNTIL HE DIES!" so my raid decided it was in their best interest to two-shot him for once.
16:10.10Gnarfozmy raid just doesn't care, it seems
16:10.13Gnarfoz><
16:10.26Psycho|WorkNether protection saved me from doomfire and I was happy.
16:10.32Gnarfozbest part was where some dude had to go afk for dinner. we even had replacements ready, but... the damn guy didn't leave the instance >_<
16:10.32Psycho|WorkFear procced it and ran me straight through it.
16:10.38Psycho|Workoh god
16:10.39Psycho|Worklol
16:11.09Gnarfozwell, we had planned to do our usual break *after* Archimonde... we had to do it then, though
16:11.12Gnarfoz=[
16:11.20Gnarfozanyway, T6 head for me, yay
16:11.29Kaaosa-/jealous
16:11.44Kaaosa-I would like a T6 anything :x
16:12.23Psycho|WorkOne day we'll get a tempest of chaos.
16:12.39Tandt6 warrior tanking helm makes me sad =\
16:12.48Gnarfozthe day we do, DKP are gonna fly like world's end
16:12.48Psycho|WorkOh, also, I made up for our raid's good performance by accidentally awarding the prot paladin both pally tokens that dropped.
16:12.58Gnarfozhaha
16:13.18Tandlolol
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16:13.43Gnarfozreminds me of our Shahraz first kill last ID... 3x conqueror tokens :<
16:14.08Gnarfozand because of yesterdays mega-fail raid, we're unlikely to even get to Shahraz again today, which is our last day this ID
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16:16.03HjalteGnarfoz: You're saying 3x conqueror like it's a bad thing :P
16:16.09GnarfozIT IS
16:16.11Gnarfoz:|
16:16.13Kaaosa-It's terrible >_>
16:16.26Gnarfozoh, and the healer neck. :p
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16:21.42CIA-4203StiviS * r74436 10ButtonFacade/Localization/esES.lua:
16:21.42CIA-42ButtonFacade:
16:21.42CIA-42<PROTECTED>
16:21.49SarozButtonFacade dont work with bartender3?
16:21.54nevcairielnop
16:22.05Saroz!!!!
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16:22.10Sarozmassive fail
16:22.58Sarozshould I use bartender4?
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16:23.34KolieSaroz ofcourse.
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16:24.13Saroznevcairiel?
16:24.17CIA-4203Bangerz * r74437 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/BangLibramSwap.lua:
16:24.17CIA-42Bang!_Libram_Swap:
16:24.17CIA-42-J4 bugfix, PVP in arenas works.
16:24.31nevcairielwhat do i care what you use =P
16:24.54Sarozit's your mod, I QQ 2 u!
16:26.06Brunersonly thing i miss in bt4 is bar fading
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16:28.27Sarozbars dont snap
16:28.28Sarozmeh
16:29.10Kaaosa-Non-snapping bars is like, my biggest complaint with Bartender4 >_>
16:29.44Kaaosa-Even though I hide all my bars, it bothers me that they might not be perfectly aligned by like.. a pixel.
16:30.24Sarozmeh gonna wait
16:30.35kenlyricWHAT
16:31.01kenlyricfeature incomplete then
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16:34.13Cairennjust a reminder FYI, WoWI's SVN now live: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16361
16:34.47Matrix110:D
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16:35.26Matrix110although its ripping apart the community even more but guess its good:P
16:35.37HjalteImproved Raid Warning Frame is erroring out on me, is it working for anyone else?
16:35.58CIA-4203nirek * r74438 10FeedMachine/ (FeedMachine.lua FeedMachineUIDiets.lua): FeedMachine: add debug mode (spammy) that might give a clue as to why it's breaking for some people
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16:37.52CIA-4203next96 * r74439 10Chatter/Modules/ClickInvite.lua:
16:37.52CIA-42Chatter:
16:37.52CIA-42- ClickInvite : custom invite locale fix
16:37.52CIA-42- but if apply, initialize profile :)
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16:38.50CIA-4203next96 * r74440 10Chatter/Localization/koKR.lua:
16:38.50CIA-42Chatter:
16:38.50CIA-42- Update locale koKR
16:41.22silentiumXinhuan: ping
16:43.22Hjalte~seen grimwald
16:43.25purlgrimwald <n=Telepath@acces1042.res.insa-lyon.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 531d 21h 57m 9s ago, saying: 'richee i didn't understand (english isnt my native tongue)'.
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16:45.46HjalteIs there a working lightweight addon to move the raid warning frame?
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16:49.40Sarozbest mod to keep track of stuff like raid banishes, duration on polymorph etc?
16:50.16vithosHjalte: try ImprovedRWF
16:50.40silentiumHjalte: I used Visor2 + Visor2GUI for that some months ago and it still works
16:50.44Hjaltevithos: I just tried that, and it kind of works, but it gives me errors :)
16:50.51vithosah
16:51.06vithoswell i don't use it, i just remebered the name
16:53.56silentiumVisor2 allows you to move frames around in general, the GUI helps with finding the frames' names or if you dont like working with command line stuff
16:54.25NeoTronso
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16:54.37NeoTronseems like Felmyst is another one of those fun "tank instagibbed" fight
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16:54.51NeoTronour MT took, I think, 28k dmg in about 1.5s
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16:57.42HjalteI just realised that the history setting in Whisp was hours, not minutes. I was wondering why I had stuff from 16 days back when I set the option to 720.
16:58.41VonhintenMaybe it's a better fight for a feral tank?
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16:59.09Sarozbest mod to keep track of stuff like raid banishes, duration on polymorph etc? Anyone?
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16:59.33HjalteSaroz: You want to see other peoples CC spells as well?
16:59.56Sarozyes
17:00.03Sarozso I can yell at mages!
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17:00.11Sarozshoukdn't be impossible with new combat log system
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17:00.27durcyneh, i'm tracking it with omniscience at the moment, but buff reapplications don't have combat log events, so it's limited =(
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17:00.40Sarozye ok
17:00.46Sarozthat sucks
17:00.56Sarozyou sure it dont? in 2.4?
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17:01.05vithosthey really need to add an event for that :/
17:01.15kenlyricyes
17:01.21durcynCOMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED:SPELL_AURA_APPLIED only fires if the target unit does not already ahve the aura
17:01.25durcynhave*
17:01.52NeoTronVonhinten: yes it is
17:02.07NeoTronVonhinten: much to the happiness of our feral tank
17:02.12NeoTronbut she was out last night
17:02.30NeoTronour firs 3 or so kills with brutallus was dual feral tank but this week we did it with feral/warrior combo
17:03.41NeoTronIt's amazing how much removal of crushing blow changes things, isn't it?
17:06.45profalbertdurcyn: I think it sometimes fires anyway
17:07.16ulicdurcyn: I've seen some APPLIED_DOSE, but not sure if that is for everything or not.
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17:07.27NeoTronaren't there other events you can track such as spell cast start and spell cast success?
17:07.45durcynprofalbert: i've never seen AURA_APPLIED fire when the aura's already on the target
17:08.01durcynulic: isn't DOSE only stackable auras?
17:08.04profalbertdurcyn: i did
17:08.14durcynprofalbert: when?
17:08.20XuerianNeoTron: Fancy-ass warriors and their "Blocking" and "Parrying" can bite my furry brown ass
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17:08.38NeoTronXuerian: got nothin' on that capped armor!
17:08.41profalbertdurcyn: it was something with enh-shamans
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17:08.56NeoTronnot to mention the benefit of Grace of Air for drood tanks
17:09.03XuerianNeoTron: Carbon-fiber fur :P
17:09.05Stanzilla~wowalert
17:09.05purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU)
17:09.22NeoTronalso important, not to mention the threat gen difference - I almost pull aggro with an imp out (as destruction) due to some lucky crits
17:09.27profalbertdurcyn: it was unleashed rage
17:09.29durcynNeoTron: yeah, SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS without a SPELL_AURA_APPLIED, but you have to listen on both then bucket it, and guess the target, so it's not 100% reliable
17:09.42NeoTronspell_cast_success doesn't have a target guid?
17:09.49durcynnope.
17:09.51NeoTrondoh
17:09.52profalbertNeoTron: no
17:10.02NeoTronwell that sure makes things a bit more annoying
17:10.03XuerianHaha.
17:10.17Xuerian"Look ma! I Casted a spell!" "At who honey?" "I CASTED A SPELL!"
17:10.29durcynplus you can end up in situations where two victims have the same aura, i.e. polymorph, and someone recasts it - there's no way to know which timer to refresh
17:11.01Xueriandurcyn: Do any of the spell_cast events for other units give target guids?
17:11.29durcynthe legacy UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT event is the only thing I've found yet that gives target data
17:11.37durcynbut iirc that's not a GUID
17:12.00XuerianWow, blizzard really helped us out with guids. I mean, they're so easy to get we just know who is who!
17:12.33durcynthis particular issue could be easily solved by always sending SPELL_AURA_APPLIED for refreshes
17:12.43durcynwhich I'm at a bit of a loss as to why they don't
17:13.04XuerianI'm at a loss as to why they don't send all events with arguments instead of still using chat for some things
17:13.14mikmaif nightbane does a 7k crushing blow to warrior, what's wrong? (warrior is tank)
17:13.36durcynwell, cast data doesn't have targetting information for pvp purposes.. SUCCEEDED should probably get one added though
17:13.37Tandshield block more?
17:13.55durcynwe can't really hope for victim GUID on SPELL_CAST_START though
17:14.19Xueriandurcyn: It'd make sense to be able to do it for friendly targets
17:14.29Silviu-mikma green geared tank ? ;)
17:14.29XuerianI can see blocking hostile but why not friendly?
17:14.53Xuerianor why friendly rather
17:14.54durcynif I had to guess?  because it's easier to just not send it period instead of filtering on unit flags
17:15.11durcynwhich is another beef, fecking unit affiliation masks are buggy as hell
17:15.18Hjaltevhaarr: Any easy way of enabling mana bar text on your oUF layout? :)
17:15.46durcynfriendly units at certain ranges don't have correct affiliations set, so they appear hostile
17:16.16mikmaSilviu-: tank has 495 defense :O
17:17.01kergothso why is there no source guid on aura applied, thats what i want to know
17:17.05Xuerianmikma: Crushing requires a combo of block/parry/dodge that's somewhere over 120% iirc
17:17.32Xuerianmy bad
17:17.34Xuerianhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Crushing_blow
17:17.39Xuerian102.4%
17:17.54Vonhintenon a level 73 boss
17:17.56durcynoh, and while we're on the subject, SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED doesn't fire when the removal action isn't a spell, i.e. melee attacks vs cc effects
17:18.05durcynsighbomb.
17:18.37NeoTronso it's a bit broken yes
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17:18.56NeoTronmikma: you're mixing up crushing blows and critical hits
17:19.02NeoTronmikma: your tank is crit immune..
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17:20.37Vonhintenif your warrior has any decent gear at all, the only way he's gonna get crushed by Nightbane, is if his Shield Block is down
17:21.03Vonhintenmeaning, his fault
17:21.12Psycho|WorkAnd it's not necessarily just that he isn't re-applying it, either.
17:21.18XuerianGet the pitchforks!
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17:21.21Psycho|WorkIf he lets TC drop then he could get attacked too many times.
17:21.33Psycho|WorkAnd even in the best case if he's doing everything right he could still get parried a few times and crushed.
17:21.52Xuerianwanted to use the pitchforks >:(
17:22.46Beherithi there is there a "if xxx LIKE xxx" string compare method in lua
17:22.47Beherit?
17:22.53VonhintenSo in conclusion, use a paladin, their holy shield has 8 charges per 10 seconds...
17:23.16ckknightBeherit: there's lua pattern matching
17:23.27ckknightif ("asdf"):match(".sd[fF]")
17:23.40kergothBeherit:  www.lua.org.  reference manual.  string patterns under the string section of the api documentation
17:24.24Beherityeah thanks, i got the damn problem that i need to check the totemname with the buffname and there is always some difference damn blizz
17:24.54Beheritthe most annoying thing is that GetTotemInfo doenst return a ID no just the string... :X
17:25.01mikmaNeoTron: sorry, my bad.
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17:26.36CIA-4203leech * r74441 10dgks/dgks.lua:
17:26.36CIA-42dgks:
17:26.36CIA-42-Minor Bug Fixes
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17:28.51Apocoevery message ckknight does on curse starts with "hello friends ckknight here"
17:28.53Apocoits kinda funny
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17:29.07VangualBeherit: I've already proposed returning an id to zoot and he said he'll do so in the next contentpatch
17:29.27StanzillaApoco: ever read his forum posts on wowace? :P
17:29.36Apocovery few
17:29.48Apocoand none of them started with "hello friends"
17:30.25ckknightmy announcements always start like that
17:30.31Stanzillait's "Hello, beautiful people, ckknight (author of $addon) here."
17:30.37ckknightnot always
17:30.45Stanzilla^^
17:30.59Apocoits just funny
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17:33.04durcynXuerian: oh, on further examination, SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS does sometimes have victim information
17:33.36XuerianWell, if it has a guid, can't you monitor (some) cc casts?
17:34.08XuerianI suppose it doesn't count for applied (Resisted or what have you), but it could still refresh
17:34.10durcynindeed.  still have to drop it and AURA_APPLIED in a bucket though
17:34.45durcynsince AURA_APPLIED can apparently fire a microsecond before CAST_SUCCESS and show up first in the log
17:35.12XuerianAhh, the quandary of event order.
17:35.49Vonhintenwtf
17:36.01Psycho|WorkI find event order isn't an issue as much when you write bad code that doesn't work right anyway. Maybe you guys should try that.
17:36.46durcynthe code works as is, i'm just brainstorming on how to handle refreshes =P
17:38.26Psycho|WorkMaybe just break your addon then get paid name changes on all of your characters and say you retired from WoW so no one knows how to find you and someone else will do it.
17:38.31Psycho|WorkI'm full of amazing, useful ideas today.
17:39.22XuerianPsycho|Work: Haha
17:40.50Psycho|WorkI contribute a lot to this channel you see, Xuerian. Not so much addons or code or knowledge, but heart. I have a lot of heart.
17:41.09XuerianA most important contribution
17:41.31durcynjust like the indian kid from captain planet.
17:41.36Psycho|WorkLOL
17:41.39Psycho|WorkNailed it.
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17:46.06CIA-4203ghenningp * r74442 10DemocraticReadyCheck/DemocraticReadyCheck.lua:
17:46.06CIA-42DemocraticReadyCheck:
17:46.06CIA-42<PROTECTED>
17:47.52durcynhuh, i wonder if SPELL_RESIST fires if the aura's already there
17:48.31durcyner MISSED
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17:51.37Funkeh`are there any mages here that could quickly /combatlog the creation of a portal (not teleport) so I can see if the events are fixed
17:52.57nevcairieli can look the events up from a non-mage standpoint
17:53.01grimmanHuh... files.wowace.com says Cartographer_HeatMap was updated 3 weeks ago, but the description reads "BROKEN" etc.
17:53.06grimmanWhat gives?
17:53.09durcyngrimman: library bump
17:53.24grimman:(
17:53.30grimmanI was hoping it would be a real update.
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17:54.22Funkeh`nevcairiel, that would do too
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17:55.46nevcairielFunkeh`: i dont find any "Portal" word in my combatlog, and portals were created :P
17:56.02CIA-4203jjsheets * r74443 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Bar.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Deleting a button group now requires confirmation.
17:56.28Funkeh`nevcairiel, what about /combatlog
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17:58.42durcynjust checked a logfile from my mage where I know I cast at least two portals, don't see log events at all
17:59.05[dRaCo]any script command to force a pitbull refresh?
17:59.58Zyuuyay for CurseForge release today
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18:04.40NeoTronyay for 28500 dmg taken on the MT in 1.5s => http://wowwebstats.com/wtfmyztub46yu?a=33&dth=4
18:06.04NivFreakmelee get in front of him?
18:06.12Aerrckknight, any way to keep track of total amount spent on repairs in durabilityfu ?
18:06.28ckknightno, that's more something for an accountant addon
18:08.01Vonhintentank gets hit for 16.2k, is parried, then gets hit for 12.6k
18:08.16Vonhintenyour tank gets parried a LOT
18:08.34Vonhintenhe's instagibbing himself
18:08.47Ozgulias in FAIL
18:08.53OzguliI yell at people if they do that when I'm healing
18:09.02NeoTronI wonder if he was using his brutallus avoidance set
18:09.07CIA-4203Thaoky * r74444 10Altoholic/ (Altoholic.lua Core.lua changelog.txt readme.txt):
18:09.07CIA-42Altoholic:
18:09.07CIA-42- Added support for command line searches (see readme.txt)
18:09.41Vonhintenoh, and those swings weren't blocked
18:09.52Vonhintenthey were pretty freaking large for not being crit or crush
18:10.09durcynthat was likely with Stomp up
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18:10.31NeoTronfelmyst
18:10.37NeoTronthe corrosive acid thing
18:10.39NeoTron2x the damage
18:10.57NeoTronnormally it does a lot of damage
18:11.05NeoTronadd a parry and it gib-level damage
18:11.53durcynah, yeah, Corrosion's just as bad
18:12.00VonhintenTervor is a crit heal machine
18:13.00NeoTronindeed
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18:15.04Funkeh`nevcairiel, nope?
18:15.26NeoTroncan you get parry immune with sufficient expertise?
18:15.46[dRaCo]yeah
18:15.55Psycho|WorkYou need a lot of expertise to do that.
18:16.04Vonhintennot huge amounts
18:17.13Psycho|Work150+ rating.
18:17.14VonhintenShard of Contempt alone is 44 expertise
18:17.19Psycho|WorkAssuming you've got the talent.
18:17.33Arrowmasteronly because some mobs have more parry than others
18:18.28Psycho|WorkYeah, don't some bosses have like 15% parry?
18:18.54Kolie!seen archarodim
18:19.27Arrowmasteryeah from 5% to 15% or so
18:19.34NeoTronso he had 42 expertise..
18:20.42Psycho|WorkWhich is probably plenty for any regularly-occuring situation.
18:20.47Fisker-~seen zealotonastick
18:20.51purlzealotonastick <n=vircuser@c-69-246-193-12.hsd1.in.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 13h 56m 27s ago, saying: 'Threat-2.0 also isn't working properly for Soulshatter resists.'.
18:20.59Fisker-it's a curse, from the net
18:21.05Fisker-or is it the other way around
18:21.06Fisker-hohoho
18:21.26netcurse:)
18:21.39Psycho|WorkMaybe it's a net that captures curses.
18:22.27netcursewe are releasing #curseforge today, btw :)
18:22.34Psycho|WorkOr maybe it's a political message in disguise. If we remove the last TWO letters from his name (the same as the number of major political parties!) and stick them on the front, we get
18:22.37Psycho|Worksenetcur
18:22.40Psycho|Worksenet cur
18:22.42Psycho|WorkSENATE CUR
18:22.45Psycho|WorkOH MY GOD.
18:23.08VonhintenYou may be on to something
18:23.17Vonhintengives Psycho a tinfoil hat
18:23.17Psycho|WorkAlert Homeland Security.
18:23.28Psycho|Workadds it to his pile
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18:24.10Psycho|WorkI'm hoping to make a suit of tinfoil armor with all my extra hats, to protect me from CIA brainwashing waves that travel through the bloodstream by hitting your extremities first.
18:24.16Psycho|WorkThey know you'll be guarding your head, see.
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18:28.10FtH|DaemonaFunkeh` -> badboy -> http://ace.pastey.net/88047
18:28.21Funkeh`so nice
18:28.24Fisker-reported for spam
18:28.26Funkeh`joining irc just to give me that
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18:28.33Funkeh`I feel appriciated
18:29.03mikmajust make it match Powerlevel
18:29.10Vonhintenlol, happygolds.com
18:29.24FtH|Daemonauhm no, at 13.44 i had a disconnect and it failed to autonickservidentify me to rejoin wowace....
18:29.41FtH|Daemonaelse i would have been idling here ;)
18:29.53Funkeh`lol
18:29.56Fisker-what does the hooker say about your powerlevel mikma?
18:30.18ShotI'm not seeing any messages from addons sent during addon:OnInitialise, anyone know why?
18:30.50mikmaFisker-: i dunno, ask her
18:30.59ShotIt's not just my addon - I'm not seeing any "X loaded" messages at all apart from one addon which sends the message during OnEnable
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18:31.30kergothShot:  are you running !StopTheSpam?
18:31.56Shotnot that I'm aware of
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18:34.46Funkeh`FtH|Daemona, fixed
18:35.12Fisker-mikma she's not responding
18:35.14CIA-4203funkydude * r74445 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: tweak blacklist
18:35.16Fisker-you killed her again?
18:35.23Fisker-you gotta retain selfcontrol
18:35.27Fisker-don't kill all your hookers
18:35.35mikmaFisker-: that's because the bitch stays in line
18:35.37Fisker-in the end all you hurt is yourself
18:36.38Fisker-i need wotlk
18:36.39Fisker-:(
18:36.47ckknightWir die Besten Powerleveler und bieten eine Sichere Lieferung.
18:36.48mikmaQQ more lpx
18:36.48ckknighthehe
18:43.39CIA-4203Thaoky * r74446 10Altoholic/ (Altoholic.toc changelog.txt localization_zhTW.lua):
18:43.39CIA-42Altoholic:
18:43.40CIA-42- Added zhTW localization
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18:51.49[Liquidor]Good evening everyone :-) How are you all today? Im eating strawberries.. hmm yummy :-}
18:52.10kergothi hate my job
18:52.14Aerrannoyed with this addon
18:52.24[Liquidor]kergoth, doing?
18:52.28[Liquidor]Aerr, which?
18:52.40AerrCryolysis2
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18:53.21Julithlua>true and false
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18:53.26kergoth[Liquidor]:  linux kernel coding, not new development though, just bugfixing for customers when they report problems, maintainance
18:53.33Julithlua:true and false
18:53.36Aerrnot sure whats causing it either atm. only getting this error when polymorphing
18:53.53kergothbored outo f my damn mind
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18:54.53Julithwhat happened to the luabot?
18:55.25[Liquidor]Julith, Working as intended.
18:56.22Julithliquidor: ok, what did I wrong? :)
18:56.56Aerrugh, wha editor do i open lua in for line numbers.
18:57.14Aerrusually dont have to go to a line that 600+  >.>
18:57.20Fisker-<insert snappy comment about linux and security>
18:57.22Fisker-owned kergoth !
18:57.27Psycho|Worknotepad++ works fine, Aerr
18:57.38ncd|Aileengvim!
18:58.04VonhintenI use visual studio
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19:00.55[Liquidor]lol... you know when you eat a strawberry you pull off the leaves ontop of it first aight? well I keep doing that and then eat the leaves and throw the strawberry out of the window -.- gotta focus a bit more meh
19:01.26Aerrfunction Cryolysis2:DebuffTimerFinished(evt, bar, name)
19:01.28Aerr<PROTECTED>
19:01.32Aerrmy issue lines
19:01.41Aerrgg
19:02.05Aerrits for a spell timer, but i have it disabled
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19:11.19Kolie2say lowercase
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19:12.27Kaeltensay pascalcase
19:12.31Kolie2lowercase.
19:12.43Kolie2yourMomIsPascalCase.
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19:12.58stew_abtw does anyone know if VRs orbs are actually fixed or not now?
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19:13.10Vonhintenthey aren't
19:13.12ckknightI have an important question: should the slug of a project (the url you see) be lowercase or mixed-case? Having it lowercase makes it consistent with everything else and is typically the "right way" to do it.
19:13.33Vonhinteneh?
19:13.37KaeltenI like the ability to have capitals personally
19:13.45CIA-4203eraslin * r74447 10DKPmon/Logging/log.lua: DKPmon: Fix bug with deleting individual logs. (Thanks wT).
19:13.46Kaeltenpoints out that mediawiki allows capitals
19:13.58ckknightmediawiki can blow me.
19:14.02Kolie2I like the ability to not worry if its capital or not when typing my urls on a linux host.
19:14.13ckknightalso, mediawiki is case-sensitive
19:14.27KaeltenKolie2: its only case sensitive on repo urls
19:14.29ckknightgoogle code uses lowercase
19:14.30Vonhintenwhat does the http spec say?  doesn't it specific case-insensitivity?
19:14.50ckknightVonhinten: no, it specifies sensitivity but allows for insensitivity
19:14.50Kolie2Vonhinten: I doubt it.
19:15.24stew_adoes anyone know what the best strategy for handling VR is atm?
19:15.27Kolie2I should know I read the 1.0 and 1.1 specs yesterday.
19:15.42Aerrstew_a, dont fail at moving from orbs?
19:15.48BrunersAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/88049 got it when i reset player names saved data
19:15.56Aerrits really player based paying attention
19:15.56stew_aAerr: not an option with my raid
19:15.58Vonhintenif you have the healing, have everyone bunch up
19:16.30Aerrpeople need to pay attention, whether they want to or not. if they cant, they need to learn
19:16.35Aerrtbh
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19:17.00Vonhintenstew_a, my raid did it the other night, after several attempts... just took us time to get it.  People mentioned that setting their view out to beyond the max setting was helpful
19:17.30Vonhintenthe camera, that is
19:17.36Aerrimprovedcamera is a nice addon to do so
19:17.47Psycho|WorkAlso, you can just have a hunter with cheeta on be the only person to stay out.
19:17.50Aerrso you dont need to enter the script
19:18.02Psycho|WorkSend the rest of the raid in and abuse the hell out of chain heal and CoH
19:18.06stew_aok, what is the script anyway, its been a while since i've had to
19:18.58AerrNot sure offhand, i use the addon
19:20.05Aerrhttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/5098/   seeing as its not on ace
19:20.14Aerrstew_a
19:20.40stew_athanks
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19:37.24Kolie2Any curse client userS?
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19:41.26CIA-4203starinnia * r74448 10SimpleMD/SMD_Timers.lua: SimpleMD: CD bars should now be click-through and a lower strata, should make them less obtrusive on UIs
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19:45.21DARKGuywhat do you guys think of the "PCI-E 512MB XFX GF 8500GT DDR-2" ?
19:45.53KarlThePaganwhat about 9xxx series?
19:46.12VulcanusI ordered my Asus 9800 GTX today
19:46.22VulcanusAlong with a nice 24" monitor
19:46.51KarlThePagan1x 8800M here... not sure if I'll put another 8800M in it or wait for 2x 9800M
19:47.17Vulcanusmobile?
19:48.17DARKGuyWell in the current list I have, 8500 is the best one they got there o,o
19:48.27DARKGuyI was just wondering if it was worth it :P
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19:52.08Coreyhttp://ace.pastey.net/88051 is that anything serious?
19:54.07NeoTronit's the 8500 a cheap budget card without any major graphical clout?
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20:05.47DARKGuydunno, that's my question NeoTron
20:05.55DARKGuytrying to get it from people who might have tried it before :P
20:07.53CIA-4203starlon * r74450 10CombatAlarm/Localization/enUS.lua: CombatAlarm: Leave a message for translators in case one happens by.
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20:11.22jy_it is difficult to find a tank able to tank more than 2 mobs
20:11.30jy_:x
20:12.05Ozgulitanks need to l2p
20:12.14CIA-4203nirek * r74451 10FeedMachine/FeedMachineUIDiets.lua: FeedMachine: fix a reversetranslation I forgot to port over
20:12.27jy_i have good tanks on my fl
20:12.34Ozgulime too
20:12.37jy_less than 5 :(
20:12.38Ozguliheroics without CC ftw
20:12.56jy_actually we tried a feral druide with staff of beast
20:13.08LukianDARKGuy, yeah the 8500 is the card you shouldn't have bought, it's good for a media pc, but that's about it
20:13.22Lukianthe low cost + performance upgrade says 8600GT's win :p
20:13.23Ozgulimy favourite group so far: bear, furywarr, retripala, enh shaman and me, holy priest
20:13.35jy_:)
20:14.07jy_i tried it also, but with warlock instead of retripala
20:14.07NivFreakI hope you're CoH for all that melee
20:14.23jy_protpal > bear
20:14.31jy_even if i miss 5% crit
20:15.04jy_because fury war will be able to whirlwind like hell
20:15.14jy_and retri aura+ prot miam
20:15.17OzguliNivFreak wasn't at that time
20:15.24Ozgulibut they don't fail
20:15.43Ozgulijy_ the bear is AWESOME. Seriously.
20:15.47NivFreakwhat are we talking about again?
20:15.58jy_i fear about aggro on large packs
20:16.15Ozguliand tbh I could output more tps than any of the dps
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20:17.01jy_building aggro on more than 4 mobs without prot pal is tricky
20:19.08NivFreakjy_: indeed
20:19.52jy_actually i think blizzard should make tanking easier
20:19.58Ozgulino way
20:20.03jy_to solve the problem of the lack of tank
20:20.07jy_and making dps harder
20:20.15Ozgulipeople don't tank because tanking is boring
20:20.21Vonhintenthey need to make healing less of a thankless job
20:20.29jy_i prefer tanking than healing
20:20.31Vonhintenso that more GOOD players will heal
20:20.33Ozgulior people just generally don't like the job
20:20.47EvilJohn-how do you make it less thankless? Add a talent that makes people like you?
20:20.53Ozgulieheh
20:21.07jy_i manage to get 2nd heal on void reaver just by hitting the same key over and over on grid
20:21.14VonhintenStop adding stupid things to the game that are impossible to heal through even if you're good
20:21.14Ozgulimake the default scrolling combat text pop up smileys when you heal people
20:21.22jy_with a druid :p
20:21.32EvilJohn-lifebloom!
20:21.35jy_:))
20:21.50EvilJohn-get crazy and throw a rejuv in there every now and then
20:21.58jy_no way
20:22.02jy_i pop tranquility
20:22.08EvilJohn-oh, sparkles
20:22.32jy_actually we were trying the method "melee + heal at the foot of Void reaver"
20:22.38jy_so lots of heal ^^
20:22.49NivFreakthat's so easy
20:22.52NivFreakI love that strat
20:22.58NivFreak2xCoh + 2xCH
20:22.59OzguliCoH CoH chain heal
20:23.00NivFreakwin
20:23.06EvilJohn-heh
20:23.07VonhintenThey need to do something with priests... I dunno what it is.. but they die so bloody often
20:23.16EvilJohn-CoH is pretty easy
20:23.24jy_:p
20:23.27OzguliI managed to outheal some shaman on BT trash by spamming coh
20:23.47kenlyricyour players can make CoH fail
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20:24.14EvilJohn-yeah but they really have to work at it
20:25.21kenlyricthe nice part about having shamans is that it makes people at least somewhat aware of how close they are to their party
20:25.26VonhintenI like the idea Mythic has with Warhammer... there will be no healer that just sits in the back and spams heals
20:25.39Vonhintenin order to heal, you have to actively do damage in battle
20:25.41kenlyricthough is still think CoH could use a wider range, since it's still limited by party
20:25.51jy_aoc heals are front cone aoe heal
20:26.05kenlyricVonhinten: so either everyone can heal, or healers will have to work twice as hard.
20:26.30kenlyricI can't see where that will be a good thing.
20:26.50Vonhintenit's just different, it means there's no passive players
20:26.51kenlyricjy_: yeah, everyone in AoC is positional.
20:26.53EvilJohn-yeah Vonhinten that is cool
20:27.04jy_^^
20:27.11kenlyric*everything
20:27.12jy_somme pretty interesting concepts
20:27.17VonhintenBut it brings up the question...
20:27.21EvilJohn-it's nice to see htem trying it out anyway
20:27.25kenlyrici guess if you find healing passive...
20:27.29VonhintenI wonder what all the girlfriends and wives are gonna do? =P
20:27.30Fisker-aoc sux
20:27.33kenlyricfrostbolt
20:27.34EvilJohn-ahah
20:27.35kenlyricfrostbolt
20:27.37kenlyricfrostbolt
20:27.43jy_but tanking problems need to be solved
20:27.45kenlyricreal active, right?
20:28.02Psycho|WorkHey, it takes SKILL and TALENT to press my shadow bolt button until the boss is dead.
20:28.08Psycho|WorkDon't be hatin'.
20:28.09EvilJohn-it's an active task rather than a reactive task
20:28.28jy_all people go to dps because it's easier
20:28.34jy_even more
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20:28.34vithosthe shadowbolt skill, and the iSB talent, to be precise
20:28.44jy_because they cant do tanking or healing
20:28.51Psycho|Workhah! Zing, vithos.
20:29.10Psycho|WorkWe've actually had a healer shortage lately so I'm looking forward to getting to play my shaman some. I love healing, so much more engaging than DPSing.
20:29.31EvilJohn-it's easy to tune out when dpsing
20:29.45EvilJohn-my mage got very boring
20:29.46Psycho|WorkFortunately I'm the raid leader too so having an easy role makes the other job easier.
20:29.58EvilJohn-the shadow priest does have more to do
20:30.09jy_caster looks boring
20:30.13jy_melee funnier
20:30.38jy_thats why you have always loads of melee in lfg
20:30.59Ozgulicaster goes like... "one button spam"
20:31.11Ozgulibut in pvp it's the melee that spams the one button
20:31.26Ozguliand casters need to utililse
20:31.28Ozguliutilise
20:31.30Ozgulisomething
20:31.31kenlyricabout the only time I found dps interesting was when I had to change targets.
20:31.47kenlyrici was like "fuck, I don't know how to do this"
20:31.47jy_i can autoattack and still doing 80% of my dps, who am i !
20:31.55kenlyricthere's no grid for enemy targets!
20:31.57OzguliI have a workaround for that, kenlyric
20:31.59Psycho|WorkENHANCEMENT SHAMAN
20:32.04jy_!
20:32.07jy_:)
20:32.08Ozguliassist the main dps or the tank whose target you're supposed to kill
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20:32.19Psycho|WorkWhat do I win?!?!
20:32.28kenlyricoh, you assume a group organized enough to have a main assist :)
20:32.41jy_the privilege to troll of enh shaman being a buttonless class
20:33.02Psycho|Work\o/
20:33.14Ozguliif it's a raid then the top rogue of course targets the right thing immediately
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20:33.51Ozgulibecause he doesn't want to lose even a half second of good dps time
20:33.52Fisker-http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk6/feralinstinct/gmlol.jpg
20:34.17jy_i'm tired of pulling aggro in heroic due to tank lacking understanding of multitanking concept
20:34.29jy_so i want to respec tank :p
20:34.33Ozgulihealer or dps?
20:34.57Ozgulibecause it's the dps's fault if they attack something else than tank's main target
20:35.08jy_healer :p
20:35.15ckknightlol, Fisker-
20:35.23kenlyricOzguli: i did more dps than the top rogue. Even though I've never been in a group before on my hunter :)
20:35.31jy_but i learned to use cyclone ^^
20:35.31Vonhintenthat's right, assist the top rogue... I'm the top rogue, people assist me.  I get a main assist box in oRA2
20:35.38Ozgulidoesn't sound like a 25-man!
20:35.47Psycho|WorkWell aren't you mr. fancy pants, Vonhinten
20:35.56Vonhintenpants optional
20:36.03kenlyricOzguli: it was 10 man, but I imagine the same would have happened in a 25 man :)
20:36.17Ozgulino way in hell you outdps proper rogues
20:36.26kenlyricI didn't say proper
20:36.34Ozgulithen the raid wipes
20:36.41kenlyricI said terrible
20:36.42Ozgulimany times, due to lack of dps
20:36.52Fisker-definitely ckknight
20:37.01Vonhintenuntil a rogue gets warglaives, hunters, warlocks, enh shaman can all equal their DPS
20:37.11kenlyricyou've never seen a perfectly executed attumen take so long.
20:37.15Psycho|WorkThey need a warlockglaive for firestone builds.
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20:38.09Ozguli"my mom is hero"?
20:38.33SinusPishould be "Here", I bet. Common typo.
20:38.35Psycho|WorkNo, Ozguli: "Your mom, Shero." that's an odd name for a mom.
20:38.47Ozguliooh.
20:40.03VonhintenActually, I've noticed that lots of people simply stop trying to do top DPS when others get an early lead... happens to me a bit too, like in Hyjal... though I still have fun TRYING to beat the lowest AOEr
20:40.09VonhintenI've come close with that necro buff
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20:41.18Ozgulithere are some fun buffs in hyjal
20:41.43Ozguli600mp5 etc with gear that isn't even too good >_>
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20:44.22Mezir|SemiAFKHi, is there a way to turn the error messages i get from some addons off? (the seem quite unimportant, but get a little annoying)
20:45.25VonhintenGet a mod that traps them, like BugSack
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20:45.35Vonhintenauctioneer comes with Swatter
20:46.25Coreyhttp://ace.pastey.net/88051 is that anything serious?
20:46.44nevcairielfor infinibar, it is
20:47.36Coreyok
20:47.37Coreycheers
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20:59.30CIA-4203ammo * r74453 10MoneyTrail/MoneyTrail.lua: MoneyTrail: initialize unknown chars at their current money instead of 0
21:07.08HjalteIs there a way to use a macro like /cast <spellname> for spells?
21:07.35_ranehuh?
21:07.52_ranethat's exactly how you do it?
21:08.14Lukianhaha? :D
21:08.20liekkiyeah :)
21:08.49HjalteNo, I mean something like /run <macroname> or via a script command
21:09.08Lukian<PROTECTED>
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21:10.09Zyndromebleh latest BaudGear made the minimap button fugly
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21:19.22ZyndromeMuru 4% , and people die a horrible death that affect their entire family tree
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21:21.02Hjaltevhaarr: Just looked in the taint.log and noticed like a million of these today during the raid using oUF_Rabbit: An action was blocked in combat because of taint from oUF - oUF_Party:Hide() Interface\AddOns\oUF_Rabbit\layout.lua:267
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21:22.13CoreyJJSheets heya
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21:22.27JJSheetshi
21:23.45CoreyJJSheets http://ace.pastey.net/88051 <-- somethin i should worry about?
21:25.13JJSheetsLet me guess, you were configuring while in combat?  if so, then don't do that.  :p
21:26.30Coreynope
21:26.35Coreyhaven't touched it since yesterday
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21:27.40JJSheetshmmm
21:27.42Coreyeverything is workin fine still though
21:28.01Coreyjust comes up with that annoying blizzard text about an addon causin an error
21:28.23JJSheetsI wouldn't worry then... But i'll look into it.
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21:29.28selckinanyone here whois on m'uru?
21:30.43Obelixprim1<=
21:30.44Obelixprim1well
21:30.46Obelixprim1tonight we'll be
21:30.56Obelixprim1we just downed twins last night
21:31.26kergoth[Ammo]:  nice, moneytrail looks sweet. gonna have to ditch moneyfu for it
21:31.49[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/moneytrail.jpg
21:31.53[Ammo](ignore the hideous UI)
21:32.04selckinObelixprim1: you're in for some fun!
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21:32.53Psycho|WorkHey Ammo, did you know that you could get gold from m8gold.com? They're the top EU WoW gold seller, you know.
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21:33.04Silviu-[Ammo] what bag addon is that ? :)
21:33.10[Ammo]Silviu-: Combuctor
21:33.16Silviu-ty
21:33.25Obelixprim1selckin: Thanks :D
21:33.34Lukian[Ammo], what makes moneytrail better than moneyfu?
21:33.46[Ammo]Lukian: it's not always up
21:34.00[Ammo]featurewise its probably worse
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21:35.08Vonhintenhow can you stand having that much of your screen just blacked out
21:35.17SnagoMoneyFu was one of the last few reasons I'm still using FuBar. Looking forward to try MoneyTrail next time I start up...
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21:35.32NeoTronSo I guess M'uru is omgwtfhard compared to previous SWP bosses
21:36.14NivFreakI'm guessing they won't nerf him until at least the last gate is open
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21:37.18NeoTronA guild at work as so far had 600 wipes on muru, compared to 200 on twins, 10 on felmyst, 40 on brut and 3 on kalecgos
21:37.27selckinany HUD that can display threat in it?
21:37.51Vonhintenpretty sure pitbull can
21:38.00CIA-4203schelli * r74457 10FuBar_MCPFu/FuBar_MCPFu.lua: FuBar_MCPFu.lua : another minor change
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21:38.13NeoTronencapsulate - urhg
21:38.24NeoTronI tend to take 1 tick from it... others die and I don't understand how :-/
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21:40.13selckinNeoTron: lol yea, just yell at em to move whenever she turn to their side
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21:41.48VonhintenI'd love to try sunwell
21:41.59Vonhintenunfortunately, with my guild, I don't think I'll ever even see Illidan
21:42.17selckinapply to another one
21:42.18selckineasy
21:42.31Vonhintennah, this guild is like family
21:42.40selckinthey should allow multiple guilds imo
21:42.50NivFreaksummertime sucks for raiding
21:43.00NivFreakpeople are freaking late, miss a lot of raids
21:43.02NivFreakI hate it
21:43.06Vonhintenwell, I could always sneak behind their back, but I wouldn't be able to raid with both, which makes it impossible
21:43.54Vonhintenjust wish it were more like the old days, 20 people carrying 20 half-assers
21:44.57selckinlol
21:45.06selckini like it now
21:45.11selckineveryone needs to be at the top of their game
21:45.12NeoTronVonhinten: so now you have 5 ppl carrying 20 half-asses?
21:45.31selckinnot in sunwell your not
21:45.48VonhintenNo, I'd say its more like 18 carrying 7 half-assers
21:46.11Vonhintenbut it cripples you currently, with that percentage of half-assers
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21:46.26NeoTrondon't get me wrong, I'd love if my guild was filled of clones of me and a few other excellent players
21:46.30NeoTronwould make it so much easier
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21:47.42NivFreakin a way, the 10 man raiding route in WotLK is very interesting
21:47.57NivFreakbut since the 25 man route will have superior gear, it won't meet it's potential
21:48.06Vonhintenyeah, but it's gonna fragment guilds even worse than 40 -> 25 did
21:48.47NivFreakyep
21:48.49selckinah they'll just do 25 man
21:49.19NeoTronWow. only 8 US kills of M'uru
21:49.23VonhintenIt's gonna happen same as before, a handful of people will level to 80 quick and start hitting the 10 mans, slowly others will hit 80 and want a piece of the action, but won't be able to
21:49.29NivFreakwell, the frustrating thing is, we've have a REALLY strong group of ~10, plus another ~10 solid players, and then ~5 passable but near gimpy players
21:49.30selckinm'uru is crazy lol
21:49.31selckin:(
21:49.35NivFreakI'm always working on replacing the bottom 5
21:49.45Ackisanyone know a website other than wowarmory that will show me upgrades for my character?                                    
21:49.48NivFreakso if we get two paths to choose from, 10 or 25
21:49.54NivFreakwe might just go 10 man and keep our strong players
21:49.56NivFreakand fuck the rest
21:49.57NeoTronso 10 mans will have the benefit of taking yourself and 14 or so best friends
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21:50.17NeoTronand do well. rather than painfully slogging around with yout 14 best friend and 10-15 less good players :P
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21:50.23NivFreakyea
21:50.32_chiper_neo: I think your math is wrong there
21:50.45NivFreakit really takes 30+ people to raid 25 mans
21:50.47NeoTron_chiper_: no..
21:50.55VonhintenMy guild will end up with 1 10man that's exceptional, 1 10man that's decent, and then we'll be bringing 5 ragtag people along to fill the 25 up
21:50.58NivFreakshit always comes up
21:51.21NivFreakVonhinten: I just hate the drama from the "A team" "B team" situation
21:51.22NeoTron30-35 is probably minimum for any passable raiding guild
21:51.24selckinwe have 40+ raiders and sometimes barely fill a raid with proper balance
21:51.33_chiper_neo: oh, you meant guild size
21:51.40NeoTronright
21:51.43VonhintenNiv, yeah, me too, but unless they change the way stuff works in this game, it's gonna keep happening
21:51.55NivFreakI don't know if I'll survive another expansion
21:51.55NeoTron10 man raiding guild would be perfect around 15 raiders probably
21:52.07NivFreakI'm not planning to quit, but I'm certainly not super excited
21:52.18NeoTronI hated trying to organize karazan runs
21:52.19NivFreakNeoTron: We kept a tight 10 man group together with 11
21:52.27NivFreakbut we all have alts
21:52.28NeoTronI had to pick between good/bad or mediocre/mediocre
21:52.40NeoTronthat is a benefit with 10-mans
21:52.44NeoTronyou can gear up alts safely
21:52.50NivFreakyea
21:53.00NivFreakI did my first ZA speed run on my holy priest
21:53.03NivFreakme + holy pally
21:53.06NivFreakthat was a blast
21:53.13NeoTronI am split. I'd love the ease of management of a 10-man
21:53.14NivFreakpretty intense for me on my alt
21:53.23NivFreakbut we missed the bear by 4 mins =/
21:53.24NeoTronbut would hate to 1) split up the guild, 2) deal with drama of said split
21:53.33selckini hate za timed
21:53.38NivFreakit's fun
21:53.40selckindone it a million times, i always lose the /roll
21:53.45Psycho|WorkWe just got our second bear last night. I really wish people with gladiator mounts would stop wainning the rolls.
21:53.48NivFreakeh, I'm just going to fix the group
21:53.49_chiper_you guys do know that the 10man and 25man versions are on seperate timers
21:53.50stew_ais the date() function in wow implemented differently from lua's os.date? if i try to put more than one % in the format string it complains its too long
21:53.51_chiper_you can do both
21:53.54NivFreaksame 10 people run until all 10 have bears
21:54.04Psycho|Work*winning
21:54.06NivFreak_chiper_: I can't raid that much
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21:54.10CIA-42- Krhmm.. So 1.4 is different than 0.4? Who would've thought. (Seal of the Crusader & Crusader Strike)
21:54.13Vonhintenyeah, I haven't won my bear either... I'm one of the last :T
21:54.19NivFreakPsycho|Work: why?
21:54.23HjalteHow many t6 tokens does sunwell bosses drop?
21:54.27NeoTronplus of course it's always the added level of <everything> needed in 25-mans
21:54.32Psycho|WorkBecause they already have fancy-pants mounts =P
21:54.44NivFreakI have a rocket mount
21:54.48NivFreakI want a bear
21:54.48NivFreak;)
21:54.53Psycho|WorkI'd never seriously complain about it, of course.
21:54.54_chiper_niv: how much did you have to pay for that rocket?
21:54.56AckisI have a spectral tiger and rocket mount :P
21:54.57Psycho|WorkAnd it's not seriously bothersome.
21:54.59NivFreak_chiper_: $200
21:55.00Psycho|WorkIt's just ironic.
21:55.03_chiper_laughs
21:55.10NivFreakyea, silly isnt it?
21:55.13NeoTron_chiper_: of course, but 4 days a week + 10man raiding is quite a bit
21:55.25_chiper_uhg
21:55.46NivFreakyou'll basically run a B group through 10mans to gear up people
21:55.48NivFreakand just raid 25s
21:55.51Psycho|WorkFortunately I really enjoy doing the speed runs, and I still need a hex shrunken head and the haste sword, so speed runs set me up nicely for an easy kill on those last two.
21:55.54_chiper_we only do 25mans on weekends
21:56.09NivFreak2x healers on hex lord and zuljin was really rough
21:56.44Psycho|WorkNether protection on hex lord is the most OP thing ever, I've decided.
21:57.06NeoTronhates being unable to use Nether Protection.
21:57.07NivFreakPsycho|Work: yea
21:57.16_chiper_my guildmaster got it in his head this week that we need to beat our heads against al'ar
21:57.24NivFreakal'ar is pretty easy
21:57.31Vonhintenneed good tanks
21:57.37NivFreaknot good tanks
21:57.38_chiper_not for a guild that just got into TK
21:57.38Psycho|WorkAl'ar phase 1 is don't get fire quill, al'ar phase 2 is don't stand in fire. That's about it =P
21:57.39NivFreakjust not bad ones
21:57.44selckinal'ar is raiding 101, move from fire
21:57.51_chiper_we havent even seen solarian yet
21:57.54NivFreak_chiper_: it took us 5 attempts to kill him in t4 gear
21:58.00Vonhintensolarian is an idiot check
21:58.01NivFreakhe was the 2nd boss in tier5 we attempted
21:58.09NivFreakafter void reaver
21:58.26_chiper_our biggest problem is just keeping everyone alive in phase 2
21:58.26NivFreakhe's really an easy fight
21:58.28Vonhintenvoid reaver is harder than solarian, imo
21:58.30NivFreakpeople just can't stand in shit
21:58.40NivFreakVonhinten: depends on who fails ;)
21:58.53_chiper_the fire rings are shredding our clothies
21:59.06NivFreakit's funny, we have a couple people that the raid runs from, when they get the bomb on solarian
21:59.10NivFreakbecause the fail so much
21:59.16NivFreakone of them I gkicked a few weeks ago
21:59.18NivFreakthe other one is next
21:59.24Vonhintenlol
21:59.36Vonhintenwe just have the laggers and failures stand away from everyone
21:59.40Psycho|Work_chiper_: Then your clothies aren't moving fast enough.
21:59.46Psycho|WorkAlso, health pots and jank.
22:00.15_chiper_as one of those clothies, I can say with confidence that it wasnt a speed issue.  I moved the instant that thing appeared and I died OUTSIDE the ring
22:01.13Vonhintenpretty sure I remember the fire ring being bigger than it appears
22:01.19Psycho|WorkIf you're a mage, throw up some armor, if you're a priest, PWS and PoM, if you're a warlock... well, you should probably have enough HP. Any of those things will keep you from dying if you're not slow.
22:01.39_chiper_Vonhinten:  that seems to be what we're finding
22:01.42Psycho|WorkAnd the aforementioned healthstones/health pots.
22:01.51_chiper_we also discovered you cant see the rings if you zoom out toofar
22:01.58Diaohonestly you have to be pretty bad to fail at dodging stuff :(
22:02.04Vonhintendruids get out of tree for that fight, or be quick about shifting
22:02.07Vonhintensame with solarian
22:02.09selckinspell detail on max, or you fail
22:02.22Diaoour druids stay in tree on solarian and just shift to cat for sprint when they get bombed
22:02.25Diaoer dash
22:02.26Diaowhatever
22:02.41Vonhintenyeah, if you can handle it
22:03.14Diaothere's so many fights where you have to not stand in stuff even before tk that everyone should know how to move :\
22:03.25Psycho|WorkWe had a great solarian where this priest that hardly ever raided but is a real stand-up guy ended up being on the outside edge of the raid when someone got blown up. He took the explosion too and we all thought he was toast. And then he floated down to the ground and we all cheered because he'd thought to use his light feathers. One of those heartwarming WoW moments.
22:03.46Diaolol
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22:04.44Psycho|Work_chiper_: The bottom line is you've GOT to get good at getting out of stuff like Al'ar's flame patches now, because on a fight like Council later, taking an extra tick of the AE damage will kill you pretty reliably.
22:05.01Psycho|WorkIt shouldn't be killing you if you're reacting fast enough.
22:05.18selckintunnel vision ftl
22:05.26vithosHjalte: 3 tokens
22:05.43selckintwins drops a random one too
22:07.00Vonhintenyeah, Psycho, I watch one of our idiot priests do the same thing... I was surprised she actually thought to do that
22:07.37Psycho|WorkThis guy's one of my favorite raiders, he's just not the best at WoW. He's great to have though because he's always talking about banging his wife or yelling at his "Weiner Kids"
22:07.49vithosbut yeah, if you think you've got it bad on a'lar or countil, wait until you're getting shadowfury stunned when you're the conflag target
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22:08.50selckinposition is wrong if you get shadowfury stuns
22:08.57Kaaosa-I don't know anything about your fancy BT encounters :[
22:09.00Kaaosa-Or Sunwell
22:09.02Kaaosa-Or whatever D:
22:10.35ShaneSvellernewb addon programmer here, trying to hand-code a tool to configure my UI to my liking. part of this involved altering the enabled addons, and looking at ACP/rMCP for inspiration, it looks like it should be as simple as running EnableAddon("whatever"); but I get "Attempt to call global" errors when doing so, also from /script. is there a documented change or something that disallows using that function in such a way?
22:10.36vithosselckin: we're doing two groups on the top ledge, tanked under us on the floor.  just can't tank it any closer underneath us without LoSing heals.  there's a better way?
22:11.06selckinvithos: we do 1 group, if you tanks can position her correctly, never any stuns
22:11.19selckinvithos: its not the most easy thing tho
22:11.32vithosyeah i dunno, our tanks have a hard time keeping her in one spot
22:11.39selckinaye
22:12.06Xinhuananyone knows when UNIT_DESTROYED is fired (a CLEU event)?
22:12.10vithoswe tried 1 group for a while, but couldn't get it to work
22:12.36selckinwe got positioning  sorted in about a day
22:12.39selckinanother to keep raid alive
22:12.43vithosso decided to cut our losses and split the healers up so they don't all get stunned simultaneously
22:13.07selckinrecord 150g repair bill atm for m'uru, mst wipes/raid so far
22:13.13selckin:(
22:13.36vithosouch.
22:14.16NeoTronIf my guild manages to get twins down (working on felmyst), I think I'll basically stop trying muru
22:14.24NeoTronas even twins currently is a big questionmark
22:14.37selckinfelmyst is easy ones 1 perosn learns the breaths
22:14.39Diaostop trying?
22:14.52selckin*onces
22:15.05selckinor something like that
22:15.41vithoswe finally got to p2 on twins last night, but everyone was oom so we only got to 7% :(
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22:16.18selckinhow many shamans?
22:16.18selckin:p
22:16.22vithosWTB ret
22:16.29vithosuh
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22:16.49NeoTronDiao: I mean I don't think I'd attempt a pre-nerf Muru
22:16.57NeoTronunless something surprises me along the way
22:17.01Diaooh
22:17.19nevcairielwonder when the first nerf to sunwell comes along
22:17.19XinhuanNeoTron, my guild had a 2% brut wipe yesterday :(
22:17.41NeoTronselckin: we got the breaths down great.. it's encapsulate ppl need to get down, which unfortunately isn't just one person :-/
22:17.57NeoTronnevcairiel: likely have some tiem to get there
22:18.05vithosi don't know how many shaman :/  my one screenshot of raid frames from that night is gray frames that say DEAD
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22:18.09nevcairieli hope so
22:18.16nevcairieli want to get more down before :P
22:18.17NeoTronI like the challenge
22:18.23NeoTronbut it's frustrating when people fail to run etc
22:18.25Matrix110|Xinhuan we had 7 1% wipes so far :P
22:18.34NeoTronmy guild is perhaps weird
22:18.39NeoTronwe had zero 1-5% wipes etc
22:18.43Xinhuanok this is weird, i searched thru about 500 mb of combat logs
22:18.47NeoTronwe kept wiping long before due to tanks dying
22:18.50Xinhuanand i got 3 matchs for UNIT_DESTROYED
22:18.53nevcairielmy guild lost a lot of people over the last weeks, but we finally re-stocked and got enough dps again to kill brutallus
22:18.56nevcairielso back on felmyst!
22:18.58XinhuanLine 12798 : 5/7 19:01:42.006 UNIT_DESTROYED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0xF130003C4E001C69,"Greater Fire Elemental",0x2114
22:18.58XinhuanLine 310044 : 5/7 21:21:41.146 UNIT_DESTROYED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0xF130003C4E002E66,"Greater Fire Elemental",0x2114
22:19.12Matrix110|Felmyst is easy ONCE you get everybody to know the fight
22:19.15Xinhuanit happens when the totem is killed, and the elemental is destroyed
22:19.19Matrix110|which can take quite a while....
22:19.22Xinhuanand this:
22:19.23NeoTronMatrix110|: as with all fights :)
22:19.23XinhuanLine 124978 : 5/18 19:21:24.896 UNIT_DESTROYED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0x0000000000A8E8E8,"Chillituna",0x514
22:19.29Xinhuanthat's a player
22:19.35Xinhuanhow does a player get "destroyed"
22:19.56Matrix110|no NeoTron Brutallus for example is easy about the knowing part
22:20.17NeoTronhealing was our issue. it seems many have a problem with DPS
22:20.25Obelixprim1i'm looking at the ace repository, and there's a billion and one addons for grid...
22:20.32Xinhuanthe last line just before that player is.....
22:20.32Obelixprim1don't many of them come with the main grid uf package?
22:20.33Xinhuan5/18 19:21:24.488 SWING_DAMAGE,0xF130006132000179,"Brutallus",0xa48,0x0000000000A8E8E8,"Chillituna",0x514,18403,1,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
22:20.34Xinhuanlol
22:20.35selckinhealing brutallus is brutal :(
22:20.42Matrix110|You normally dont wipe there because people fuck up its either DPS or tank healing which fails and tank healing is sometimes really not possible :P
22:20.44sdoublethat's because grid is great
22:20.49nevcairielXinhuan: one-hit = destroy :D
22:20.57Obelixprim1are you being facetious sdouble?
22:21.01Xinhuanbut the entire night only has one UNIT_DESTROYED nevcairiel
22:21.02NeoTronofc felmyst parry induced hit during corrosion isn't better
22:21.10Xinhuani'm pretty sure brut one-hit a lot of ppl during a wipe
22:21.16Xinhuanespecially after enrage
22:21.23sdoubleNo, I love grid
22:21.30Xinhuanis there something i'm missing?
22:21.37nevcairielobviously
22:21.40nevcairielbut i dont know what
22:21.51nevcairielanyway, sleep time
22:21.58Stanzillahttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/beta/WotLK-FF-enGB-downloader.exe < haha
22:22.00sdoubleanyone tried RecountThreat?
22:22.03Superfly1anybody could me any advice on this error "attempt to call global 'TempWeapBuff' (a nil value)", the function is called TempWeapBuff(unit.unitid),and i can print the variable before the function called but function doesnt work, advice, debugger?
22:22.05Xinhuanthe line before that is
22:22.06Xinhuan5/18 19:21:24.018 SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0x0000000000A8E8E8,"Chillituna",0x514,46394,"Burn",0x4,174,4,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
22:22.12Xinhuanso, he wasn't at full healh either
22:23.41Pkekyo|~time
22:23.42purlrumour has it, time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.05.19 22:23:42 GMT
22:24.00breserSo what's the liklihood of KTM/Omen interoperability happenging again?
22:24.05Vonhintenfucking existential bots
22:24.29NeoTronbreser: probably nil
22:24.58selckinmaybe death by burn  = unit destroyed = no durabilty loss
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22:25.55Psycho|WorkPeople still use KTM?
22:26.04selckinnot on my realm
22:26.10Chompersthey better not be using it
22:26.13breserYes.  /sigh
22:26.14Chompers>:|
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22:26.22Fisker-Chompers
22:26.23Fisker-i'm destroying you
22:26.33VonhintenIs blizzard doing a beta for that already?  How do you get in?
22:26.43breserThere's people on my realm that flat out insist that Omen is buggy and doesn't work as well as KTM.
22:26.50vithosI know of a guild on Mu'ru who uses KTM
22:26.52Fisker-it's an alpha
22:27.17Fisker-the f&f alpha isn't that far behind a beta as far as i recall though
22:27.35Vonhintenwhat's f&f?
22:27.37vithosbut honestly, can you blame them?  Omen was next to useless when the sunwell patch hit
22:27.40Stanzillafamily and friends
22:27.41breserfriends and family
22:27.52Vonhintendunno what that is
22:28.24Fisker-well friends are thing that people have when they socially interact with other people
22:28.30breservithos: It was a poor time to dump a rewrite down the pipe that wasn't feature complete.  /shrug
22:28.33Fisker-and family is what you related to in blood
22:28.47Vonhintenoh, it's friends and family of blizzard employees?
22:28.59Fisker-Basically
22:29.00Xinhuanselckin, unlikely, since
22:29.07Vonhintenhmm
22:29.11Xinhuanthe entire night i can only find that one UNIT_DESTROYED hmm
22:29.18vithosmeh, features weren't the problem.  there were just lots of calculation errors
22:29.18NeoTronI like omen but admittedly, it's still not perfect
22:29.20Fisker-friends also include people like MVP's, good beta testers, etc.
22:29.36Psycho|WorkAnd the vast majority of the calculation errors were rectified almost immediately.
22:30.12breserAt the same point I underst why they dumped a new version at that point.  But yeah oh well.
22:30.13NeoTronI was in the original WoW F&F alpha as a sekrit Linux WoW tester
22:30.33breserNeoTron: orly?
22:30.34selckinXinhuan: can't find a single unit_dest in logs i current have either :(
22:30.38charonbreser: if you need KTM interoperability, why not write a patch?
22:30.48NeoTronPsycho|Work: and to this day threat 2.0 is not correct. we've had several cases of pulling aggro when the player was quite a bit below the tank, not to mention the 130% mark
22:30.53NeoTronbreser: yrly
22:31.03vithosyeah, i still pull aggro at 100% sometimes
22:31.13NeoTronit was benched just in time for the closed beta however
22:31.19breserI don't need.  I'm putting up with people whining and wanting to use KTM and being stubborn about switching.
22:31.38Psycho|WorkI haven't had anyone pull aggro at or near 100% in a long, long time. And unless KTM is 100% correct (which I'd doubt), then I'm not sure what the advantage is.
22:31.41vithoseven yesterday, i pulled aggro when another hunter was about to
22:31.52vithosand he whispers me "wtf i was at 130% and you were WAY behind me"
22:31.57Vonhintenyes, we still have issues with agro pulls when people aren't even near the tank
22:32.00Vonhintenwith Omen
22:32.04vithos(on trash of course)
22:32.08breserSo I was asking to see if it was going to happen or not so I could tell them, just switch it's not going to change.
22:32.09NeoTronPsycho|Work: not saying KTM is more correct. only sayin that when I pull aggro on illidan flames when I'm at 85% iof the MT, something is wrong
22:32.25NeoTronor when I dps up to maybe 140% of the tank in RoS phase 3 and don't pull aggro
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22:32.56Tasky[18:32] Xfire Release 1.92 will be insntalled shortly. Please do not alt-tab out of a game to update. Enjoy!
22:32.59VonhintenI think maybe Warrior threat is being listed higher than it actually is
22:33.02TaskyDOES NOBODY PROOFREAD ANY MORE?
22:33.12Psycho|WorkWell, I never made the claim that Omen was perfect, just that the big majority of the outstanding issues it had were fixed fairly quickly.
22:34.03NeoTronVonhinten: ironically it's not always so. Like on illidan flames it seems off when we have a druid tanking and spot on when the warrior is but on RoS we obviously use a warrior
22:34.03charonone huge issue it currently has are mobs that remain from the last fight
22:34.08charonmainly for healing & spriest though
22:34.19Psycho|WorkIf KTM was perfect I'd understand the reticence to change addons, but Omen has yet to wipe my guild more than, or even as close to as much, as something like people disconnecting mid-fight. Given that, I'll go with an addon that works well for me 99% of the time and has a better design.
22:34.39charonhad one attempt today with 5 mobs in the tables from the last attempt which meant healers didn't really show up at all
22:34.53Vonhintenis that in healer mode?
22:34.54Psycho|WorkWell, and I don't play a healer.
22:34.55charonunfortunately i know of no good way to fix it
22:34.56Orionshockimo, i'll go with an author that is nice and receptive to input than an asshole about it :D
22:34.56NeoTrondoin't get me wrong Psycho|Work  - I'd never go back to KTM
22:35.07Psycho|WorkThere's probably a good argument for interoperability if people are still split on which one to use.
22:35.21charonVonhinten: it's a global issue. that is, the entire threat tracking is wrecked because it splits up global threat across nonexistent/gone mobs
22:35.25vithosyeah, i wouldn't go back to KTM either.  but there's still definitely problems
22:35.39Vonhintenhm
22:35.47Psycho|WorkRegardless, I'm going home and I'm going to sleep. Thank god monday is over.
22:35.48OrionshockPsycho|Work: KTM and Omen prolly calculate threat differently so that cross talk is not viable.
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22:36.28breserThey're both trying to estimate the threat that the server uses.
22:36.34Orionshockit could be just a slight difference on how things are added togeather, or attributed
22:36.46Vonhintenyou can run both side by side, eh?
22:36.49breserShouldn't be too different.  The only issue would be is if KTM now supports multiple targets or not.
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22:37.19Orionshocki will say one thing, i kile KTM's in combat-ness gui more
22:37.26Orionshock*like
22:37.46VonhintenI might have to try running both at the same time, see if they're close
22:37.57CIA-4203sayclub * r74463 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua:
22:37.57CIA-42GridStatusRaidDebuff:
22:37.57CIA-42- Now Raid Debuff menu is in Status.
22:38.21NeoTronbasically what we need is an API
22:38.40NeoTronwhich I hope Blizzard will give us in LK like they said they might
22:38.58FtH|Daemonagief http://tinyurl.com/57o2cm
22:39.01FtH|DaemonaQQ's
22:39.18Camciany idea where i can get the addon "PowerAuras" ?
22:39.44FtH|Daemona~google
22:39.45purlgoogle is probably a search engine found at http://www.google.com/
22:41.19Ackiswhy is wowarmory so crappy? :(
22:41.48FtH|Daemonaarmorylite ftw
22:41.55breserBlizzard is good at make games, bad at making websites.
22:41.55Lukian11 million users and scripts constantly hammering it, Ackis ? :D
22:41.58evl_http://www.armory-light.com/, http://armorylite.com/
22:43.17breserNice: Fatal error: Call to a member function attributes() on a non-object in /var/www/vhosts/armory-light.com/httpdocs/blizzard-armory.php on line 35
22:44.07CIA-4203xinhuan * r74464 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Add UNIT_DESTROYED handler (aliased to UNIT_DIED).
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22:46.43Vonhintenwhy is wowarmory so crappy?  because they decided to use XSL...
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22:47.43Arrowmasterwrong
22:47.56Arrowmasterbecause they decided to use tons and tons of javascript everywhere
22:48.22VonhintenThey needed to learn from google
22:48.32VonhintenAJAX = win
22:48.44Arrowmasterblizzards use of ajax = fail
22:49.16NeoTronI love how wowarmory will lock up my browser when they are having issue
22:49.52Arrowmasterthat would be the overuse of ajax
22:49.52Vonhintenthat's because of XSL... I only ever have issues like that when its XSL
22:50.15NeoTronout of curiosity
22:50.22ckknightWoWDB is pretty snappy despite its use of javascript
22:50.31NeoTronif you do wowarmory with a client that has a user agent that isn't "xslt capable", does it work better?
22:50.45Arrowmasterthey send you pregenerated html
22:50.47NeoTronright
22:50.50NeoTronis it faster?
22:50.53NeoTronless features?
22:50.55Arrowmasterthats still full of javascript afaik
22:51.01NeoTronthat's why I'm wondering ;-)
22:51.20XinhuanNeoTron, do u have any combatlogs of brutallus
22:51.43Vonhintensomeone try it... there's a useragent plugin for firefox isn't there?  I run IE, can't test
22:51.49sdouble[17:50:49] <Arrowmaster> blizzards use of ajax = fail <- no kidding.  There isn't even a reason to use ajax on wowarmory
22:52.01breserXinhuan: I have one from last night if it's helpful to you.  But none of the attempts are kills.
22:52.15Xinhuancan you check the whole file for "flame cap"
22:52.20breserSure.
22:52.20Xinhuanto see if it exists in the file
22:52.27Xinhuani'm sure some of your mages used some right?
22:52.35Xinhuanunless you weren't doing consumable attempts?
22:52.37CIA-4203sayclub 07GridStatusRaid * r74465 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (Module/HyjalSummit.lua ModuleCore.lua ProtoType.lua):
22:52.37CIA-42GridStatusRaid :
22:52.37CIA-42- Debuff menu is in Status.
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22:52.54breserOhh probably not, we were doing no consumeable, positioning and what not work on him.
22:52.58breserBut let me see.
22:53.37breserNope  sorry.
22:54.11breserWe'll be going again in a little bit so I'll probably end up with a useful log for you.
22:54.34selckinXinhuan: can probably dig one up for you betwean heals
22:54.53Xinhuanmy logs doesn't contain a single flame cap anywhere in it
22:54.57Xinhuani'm wondering if its bugged
22:55.17selckinit shows up on wws
22:55.20selckinso it must
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22:55.28Xinhuanthat's the thing, it doesn't show up on WWS for me
22:55.32Xinhuanwhen i upload my logs
22:55.41Xinhuanits not recording the flame cap buff
22:55.53VonhintenI have some flame caps on a toon
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22:56.08Xinhuanit doesn't even show up on the blizzard's combat log
22:56.11Xinhuanas a buff gained or lost
22:56.16Vonhintenlet me log a use real quick
22:56.34Xinhuanso i can't tell how many caps each person used
22:56.47Xinhuanwhich is pretty annoying
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22:58.19Xinhuanalso the refiltering by blizzard's combat log is backwards now? from newest to earliest event?
22:58.31selckinmy mage says they don't show up at all
22:58.36NeoTronso if I use a dummy user agent the site seems a lot faster
22:58.46FtH|DaemonaXinhuan yup
22:58.55Xinhuanhow useless
22:59.00Vonhintenhmm.. I've got some wierd issue in Vista from the last couple weeks... something is leaking memory bigtime
22:59.12selckinshows if melee or hunters use it he says
22:59.12selckinwier
22:59.20Xinhuano_O
22:59.35CIA-4203starinnia * r74467 10SimpleMD/SMD_Timers.lua: SimpleMD: One more :EnableMouse(false) to make stuff click-through
22:59.50selckinputs mana gem on 3 min cd
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23:00.08Vonhintencan't even launch process explorer to find out what it is... insufficient system resources when I try
23:00.13NeoTronXinhuan: don't see any flame cap
23:00.15Xinhuanso flame cap has a combatlog event if a melee uses it? classism!
23:01.34Xinhuani guess hte combatlog event for melee would be the proc
23:01.41NeoTronyeah
23:02.01Xinhuangoing to question if the buff is working or not
23:02.03Xinhuanflame caps
23:02.11Xinhuanmaybe its bugged and not working
23:02.15Arrowmasterprobably counted as an aura
23:02.21Arrowmasterwhich dont show in the combatlog
23:02.31selckinpaladin auras show up
23:02.32selckinor :x
23:02.36XinhuanArrowmaster, all auras show in the combat log unless i'm mistaken?
23:02.54Arrowmasternot everything does
23:03.04Arrowmasterthey fixed most i think
23:03.06Xinhuancan you give an example that doesn't? apart from flame caps
23:03.17Arrowmastermount?
23:03.42CIA-4203funkydude * r74468 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: DB cleanup
23:03.49Xinhuanhmm
23:04.01selckinextracting more logs to grep
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23:05.27Xinhuanok mounts isn't shown
23:05.30Xinhuanbut swift flight form is
23:05.31Xinhuanlol
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23:08.20Stanzillahai Arthas http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3682/arthasmh7.png
23:10.44selckinno mention of flame cap in a week of wipes and 5 kills
23:10.52selckinmaybe they just don't use it
23:11.00selckinor it doesn't show like they say :)
23:12.08NeoTronHAI model viewer!
23:12.25Stanzilla^^
23:12.43Xinhuani'll mail in these bugs zzz
23:13.50NeoTronguess mmo champion and worldofraids was owned by Blizzard cease and desists
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23:16.58sacarasc_? was something released today or something then?
23:17.30Stanzillathe alpha client leaked
23:18.20Vonhintenk, just used a Flame Cap on my rogue, no combat log entry
23:18.39VonhintenI'm guessing the reason you'd see it in wws for melee is because it actually procs something on hit
23:18.47VonhintenI didn't hit anything, no message
23:20.51GnarfozStanzilla: an alpha -> alpha patch was released, not a BC -> WotLK patch, or full client
23:21.37Kaaosa-Man, why is Arthas so chubby?
23:22.18Arrowmasterbut blizzard has the full client on their site now
23:23.02Gnarfozobviously, they've had it forever
23:23.16CIA-4203nirek * r74470 10FeedMachine/FeedMachine.lua: FeedMachine: bleh extra debuglines
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23:33.47StanzillaGnarfoz: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/beta/WotLK-FF-enGB-downloader.exe
23:34.06Gnarfozthat's not a leak, that's Blizzard's page. ;P
23:34.22stew_ayup, hot off the press installers :-)
23:34.23Gnarfozoh right, I wrote 'released' instead of 'leaked' above. my bad
23:34.45Stanzilla:P
23:35.10stew_aWotLK content - one of the few things in the world that travels somewhere near the speed of light :-)
23:35.51CIA-4203profalbert * r74471 10Parrot/ (Code/CombatEvents.lua Data/CombatEvents.lua):
23:35.51CIA-42Parrot:
23:35.51CIA-42- removed duplicate - in Reputation-decreases
23:36.39Gnarfozprofalbert: honor gains seemed broken, btw, I got +1049 honor for killing someone who gave +21 honor (not just once)
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23:37.27profalberthmm that's odd
23:38.07profalbertlooks like not every honorgain fires a HONOR_CURRENCY_UPDATE Event
23:38.23GagorianDon't you love how people report you a bug with really vague information and when you ask them the specifics they never respond?
23:38.26GnarfozI'll see if it's still like that, but there were no changes to that part of Parrot since then. anyway, doing BGs soon enough again
23:38.34GagorianOr maybe I'm the only one getting that!
23:38.57breserGagorian: I get that all the time.
23:39.04breser"I get this error"
23:39.20breser"Your line numbers don't match up to any recent version, what version are you running"  /silence
23:39.48GagorianIndeed :C
23:39.48profalbertespecially when they describe a "bug" what I implemented as a feature requested a few days ago ;)
23:40.03profalbertGnarfoz: there were no changes
23:40.05Gagorianyeah that's pretty common too
23:40.17GagorianSomeone asks me to change something with a good justification
23:40.24GagorianI post and say added.
23:40.30GagorianNext post asks why it doesn't work like it used to
23:40.56profalbertinstead of looking in the preferences
23:41.26Gnarfozprofalbert: indeed, that's what I said ;)
23:41.29breserMy favorite is the bug that's obviously a conflict with some other addon.
23:41.36breserI tell them how to find it...  No reply ever.
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23:43.19breserI take that back.  My favorite is "It doesn't work"
23:43.27breserThat's it, no version, just it doesn't work.
23:44.01Kaaosa-lol
23:44.17Kaaosa-I like "sometimes it doesn't work"
23:44.56Dashkalbest is without context "Make it work"
23:45.28Kaaosa-Haha
23:45.41breserThe demanding ones that want a feature you don't want to add are fun too.
23:46.43selckini like spending 30min making detailed bug reports, and never getting a reply
23:47.02GagorianDo you get the bug fixed? :D
23:47.20Kaaosa-Yeah, "it doesn't do [feature that is not advertised or planned]" is a good bug report :P
23:48.23breserI want the addon to do something that is flat out not possible.  Preferably the addon should play the game for me and make sure I get the phat loots.
23:48.48DashkalOh! I see adverts for that one all the time!
23:49.05Dashkalsadly I really do.  Ironforge general is nota  pretty sight
23:49.37breserYou guys seeing the spam where they tell you that they can make it so you can solo an instance yourself and keep all the loot. lol
23:49.44profalbertwell Parrot with things like that "focus debuff fade" can pretty much remind you of everything
23:50.10Kaaosa-lol
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23:50.32selckinl2multibox imo
23:50.40selckin3 mages/paladin tank/druid
23:50.43selckini solo heroics :p
23:50.44Dashkalbreser: That's exactly the one :p
23:50.49CIA-4203orionshock * r74472 10/branches/GuildCraft2/ (6 files in 2 dirs): GuildCraft2: make comms IO & DBO update work... CBH-Based Comms ^.^
23:51.20profalbertselckin: every heroic?
23:51.29erica647Anyone know of a mod that will track cooldowns of trinkets that proc?
23:51.39selckinhaven't tried em all o
23:51.41selckin*no
23:52.08selckinbm/sp/ub are my favorite
23:52.25GagorianIt was fun when you could solo heroic SP
23:53.18Arrowmasteri tried that before it was fixed
23:53.44Arrowmasteronly tried it on normal and killed the first boss
23:53.47Arrowmasterwas kinda boring
23:53.49selckini must have missed something, how was it done?
23:53.59Arrowmasterfear bug
23:54.10Arrowmasterwell pathing bug
23:54.26XuerianThe island at the start
23:54.29XuerianMobs couldn't cross it
23:54.30XuerianYou could
23:54.35Arrowmasternot just that
23:54.39Arrowmasterlots of other ones too
23:56.10*** join/#wowace fridgid_ (n=fridgid@75.76.14.158)
23:58.26Gagorianwell there was pathing parts in the entire instance you could use
23:58.38Gagorianso just dot up and jump from spot to spot
23:58.48Gagorianthe mobs will never reach you if you do it correctly
23:59.28GagorianQuagmirran for instance took quite some time and you had to kite him a long way
23:59.33GagorianBut was doable

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