IRC log for #wowace on 20080516

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`00:04.55`	`hypetech`	`chatter isn't showing my name in color anymore :(`
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`00:05.35`	`lnmnu`	`8#Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you`
`00:05.37`	`zduslzolipo`	`flo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0d Send Queue fserver`
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`00:05.38`	`rfpk`	`8#Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you`
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`00:05.39`	`oekudvhrgw`	`8#Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you`
`00:05.40`	`lnmnu`	`flo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0d Send Queue fserver`
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`00:05.42`	`kxknion`	`8#Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you`
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`00:05.43`	`dmfbyl`	`8#Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you`
`00:05.43`	`rfpk`	`flo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0d Send Queue fserver`
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`00:05.44`	`rjznkbkuj`	`8#Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you`
`00:05.44`	`a`	`flo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0d Send Queue fserver`
`00:05.47`	`kxknion`	`flo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0d Send Queue fserver`
`00:05.47`	`Stanzilla`	`wtf`
`00:05.48`	`dmfbyl`	`flo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0d Send Queue fserver`
`00:05.49`	`a`	`8#Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you`
`00:05.51`	`rjznkbkuj`	`flo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0dflo0d Send Queue fserver`
`00:05.52`	`kxknion`	`8#Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you #Etherlink ownz you`
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`00:05.55`	`*** mode/#wowace [+m] by Dave2`
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`00:06.07`	`*** mode/#wowace [+rR] by Dave2`
`00:06.11`	`*** mode/#wowace [-m] by Dave2`
`00:06.16`	`_rane`	`what is this`
`00:06.17`	`[Endeavour]`	`what the heck?!`
`00:06.23`	`hypetech`	`haha`
`00:06.25`	`hypetech`	`what an idiot`
`00:07.04`	`steev`	`lol`
`00:08.03`	`Zhinjio`	`does anyone know why Recount would ask to confirm data deletion every time someone enters/leave combat?`
`00:08.37`	`hypetech`	`um`
`00:08.52`	`hypetech`	`My AV just gave me a virus warning via the temp files from this channel`
`00:08.53`	`NimbleRabit`	`whisp is so amazing`
`00:08.56`	`hypetech`	`I recommend scanning`
`00:10.42`	`*** join/#wowace hypetech (n=hypetech@66.83.192.140.nw.nuvox.net)`
`00:10.52`	`hypetech`	`sigh`
`00:10.55`	`Lukian`	`hypetech, lol..`
`00:11.07`	`hypetech`	`stupid script kiddies`
`00:11.15`	`Lukian`	`hypetech, your virus scanner has some amusing definitions`
`00:11.18`	`Lukian`	`what do you use? :p`
`00:11.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`get a new AV`
`00:11.37`	`hypetech`	`symantec. It just called it "IRC Trojan" and quarantined a file, no idea`
`00:11.45`	`Lukian`	`hahaha`
`00:11.51`	`Lukian`	`yeah what Arrowmaster said`
`00:11.55`	`Lukian`	`hey Arrowmaster`
`00:12.01`	`Lukian`	`can you filter critters out of aoe mode?`
`00:12.03`	`Lukian`	`kthx`
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`00:12.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`huh?`
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`00:12.47`	`NimbleRabit`	`there's a firefox 3 beta out right?`
`00:12.50`	`NimbleRabit`	`anyone here use it?`
`00:12.56`	`Kuja^`	`<-`
`00:12.59`	`Lukian`	`NimbleRabit, rc1 is being built`
`00:13.03`	`Lukian`	`yeah it's great`
`00:13.19`	`NimbleRabit`	`so it works pretty well?`
`00:13.24`	`Lukian`	`yes`
`00:13.25`	`NimbleRabit`	`I really need to upgrade my FF`
`00:13.28`	`NimbleRabit`	`it's totally fuxxed`
`00:13.32`	`Kuja^`	`i does for me, yeah`
`00:13.35`	`NimbleRabit`	`k thanks I'm going to try it then`
`00:13.38`	`Kuja^`	`s/i/it`
`00:13.42`	`NimbleRabit`	`tired of 400mb of ram going to firefox`
`00:13.53`	`Kuja^`	`kicks purl`
`00:13.56`	`Lukian`	`mine doesn't break about 270mb`
`00:14.23`	`Lukian`	`oh nice`
`00:14.27`	`Lukian`	`rc1 is only using 194mb`
`00:14.32`	`Lukian`	`is impressed`
`00:14.44`	`NimbleRabit`	`I don't know why mine uses so much`
`00:14.48`	`NimbleRabit`	`I only have 7 tabs open lol`
`00:14.49`	`Stanzilla`	`http://staneck.de/upload/files/01e0eb-myfirefox_2.jpg < my Firefox on Vista with a little bit of tweaking`
`00:14.53`	`Lukian`	`firefox 2 is a piece of crap :p`
`00:14.56`	`Kuja^`	`don't expect too much tough`
`00:15.31`	`Kuja^`	`firefox 4 is going to get better wrt memory usage (they at least say so)`
`00:15.37`	`[Endeavour]`	`i personally have high expectations on IE8`
`00:15.57`	`Kuja^`	`hmm don't they say that for any version anyway, heh :P`
`00:15.59`	`[Endeavour]`	`seems to be the 1st "good" microsoft browser`
`00:19.10`	`ckknight`	`[Endeavour]: I don't have high hopes. Check the Acid3 test :-P`
`00:19.26`	`[Endeavour]`	`u have a link?`
`00:19.36`	`ckknight`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3#Non-compliant_layout_engines`
`00:20.02`	`*** mode/#wowace [-rR] by Dave2`
`00:20.13`	`[Endeavour]`	`uuuh`
`00:20.30`	`ckknight`	`Microsoft has stated that Internet Explorer 8 will improve only some of the standards being tested by Acid3.`
`00:21.22`	`Vonhinten`	`Why do I get the feeling that the test is specifically designed to make IE look bad`
`00:21.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`it isnt`
`00:22.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`when it was first released i dont think any broswer got higher than 50`
`00:22.58`	`stew_a`	`the decent browsers worked to get higher scores :-)`
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`00:25.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`firefox3 hasnt even really been trying though since theyre more concerned about 3.0 release right now, but it has been increasing quite a bit`
`00:25.25`	`Xinhuan`	`who cares about the test ~_~`
`00:25.44`	`Xinhuan`	`the browsers are good enough to render about 99.9% of the webpages on the net`
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`00:25.57`	`Xinhuan`	`screw the 1% that tries funny things using "standards"!!!`
`00:26.31`	`Stanzilla`	`<blink>Hai</blink>`
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`00:31.51`	`Ackis`	`this Canadian calls tech support, and they tell him to press CTRL-A... after about 30 minutes of nothing working, the Canadian responds "I'm pushing CTRL, eh and nothing is happening"`
`00:32.15`	`Vonhinten`	`oh man`
`00:32.18`	`Vonhinten`	`bad`
`00:32.49`	`Ackis`	`I found that funny because I'm Canadian and the language barrier caused me issues before`
`00:33.22`	`Ackis`	`I had LASTDRIVE = Z in my config.sys file and the tech guy didn't know what "zed" was and we spent 30 minutes on that til he asked why is last drive Z E D?`
`00:34.21`	`Vonhinten`	`Should stop saying zed, that's what the frenchies say`
`00:34.29`	`Ackis`	`pfft`
`00:35.17`	`Vonhinten`	`I'm canadian too, living in the US.. my transition to ZEE was without problem :)`
`00:35.22`	`Toadkiller`	`zed is british too`
`00:35.32`	`Ackis`	`I can't stand ZEE tbh`
`00:35.35`	`Toadkiller`	`liar! U are no canadian eh`
`00:35.45`	`Vonhinten`	`damn right I am`
`00:35.56`	`Toadkiller`	`damn right ur not _eh_`
`00:36.30`	`Vonhinten`	`I know things only a canadian could know`
`00:36.33`	`Toadkiller`	`get oot with not adding eh eh`
`00:37.04`	`Vonhinten`	`Like, poutine is the greatest food ever created..`
`00:37.17`	`Toadkiller`	`All right: in summer when the igloo starts to melt, how do u protect your computer?`
`00:37.33`	`Vonhinten`	`I didn't say I was inuit`
`00:37.48`	`Vonhinten`	`hockey night in canada > *`
`00:37.58`	`Ackis`	`^`
`00:37.59`	`Toadkiller`	`u claim to be canadian eh, but u clearly cant speak the language eh`
`00:38.03`	`Ackis`	`I was born in Yellowknife`
`00:38.12`	`Dashkal`	`Vonhinten: poutine ^.^.... damnit, you made me hungry.`
`00:38.13`	`Toadkiller`	`omg yellowknofe`
`00:38.17`	`Ackis`	`live in edmonton... 30C outside in the back and I'm boiling`
`00:38.31`	`Vonhinten`	`I was born in Oshawa Ontario, just outside Toronto, eh`
`00:38.43`	`Toadkiller`	`omg u are canadian eh!`
`00:38.43`	`Dashkal`	`New Westminster, BC.`
`00:38.54`	`Toadkiller`	`I lived all over Vancouver eh`
`00:39.06`	`Dashkal`	`Working in Vancouver, living in one of the suburbs.`
`00:39.16`	`Toadkiller`	`& one year in tronto`
`00:39.25`	`Dashkal`	`And I try to keep "eh" to a minimum :p`
`00:39.43`	`Toadkiller`	`me too that last sentence was without one eh`
`00:39.57`	`Vonhinten`	`I've lived in the dirty south for more than half my life... I have more of a southern accent than canadian now`
`00:40.19`	`Toadkiller`	`just deep fry the eh imo`
`00:40.36`	`Vonhinten`	`Yall come back now, eh`
`00:40.41`	`Dashkal`	`shudders`
`00:40.49`	`Dashkal`	`That was the most vile thing I've ever seen typed out :p`
`00:41.03`	`Toadkiller`	`Or if addressing more than 1: All y'all come back now eh`
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`00:41.30`	`Vonhinten`	`You're as useless as tits on a bull, eh`
`00:41.43`	`Toadkiller`	`He needed killin' eh`
`00:42.13`	`Vonhinten`	`Woooweee, I could sure use me some of them there grits, eh momma`
`00:42.56`	`Toadkiller`	`I reckin I be fixem them ruf tomorrow eh`
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`00:43.24`	`Toadkiller`	`*fixin`
`00:44.45`	`Toadkiller`	`This is for u, and this is for the horse u rode in on eh (accompanied by two hand signals)`
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`01:09.05`	`CIA-42`	`03funkydude * r73998 10StatBlocks_Bartender/ (. Locales/enUS.lua Locales/koKR.lua): StatBlocks_Bartender: fix locale error`
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`01:09.55`	`stew_a`	`wasnt it cia-41 earlier?`
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`01:13.16`	`Xinhuan`	`CIA multiplies!`
`01:14.49`	`CIA-42`	`03funkydude * r74003 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: DB tweak`
`01:14.49`	`CIA-42`	`03sayclub 07GridStatusRaid * r74002 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (. Module/BlackTemple.lua):`
`01:14.49`	`CIA-42`	`GridStatusRaid :`
`01:14.49`	`CIA-42`	`- Typo fix`
`01:15.09`	`NeoTron`	`man`
`01:15.24`	`NeoTron`	`any "why you shoul duse zomg instead of pally power" documents/faq?`
`01:15.34`	`CIA-42`	`03toadkiller * r74006 10AutoBar/ (15 files):`
`01:15.34`	`CIA-42`	`AutoBar :`
`01:15.34`	`CIA-42`	`-- Babble-Zone-2.2 --> LibBabble-Zone-3.0`
`01:15.34`	`CIA-42`	`-- Add Show Extended Tooltips setting. Enabled allows comparison tooltips and extended tips by other mods.`
`01:15.34`	`CIA-42`	`037destiny * r74007 10ElkBuffBars/ (embeds.xml libs/ libs/CallbackHandler-1.0/ libs/LibStub/):`
`01:15.37`	`CIA-42`	`ElkBuffBars`
`01:15.39`	`CIA-42`	`- change embeds.xml :p`
`01:15.41`	`CIA-42`	`03nargiddley 07RC1 * r74005 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-Slider.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: Add a background to the slider widget's editbox`
`01:15.45`	`CIA-42`	`03hunterz * r74013 10FuBar_TrainerFu/embeds.xml:`
`01:15.46`	`CIA-42`	`FuBar_TrainerFu:`
`01:15.48`	`CIA-42`	`- Change embeds.xml as suggested by Takika to attempt to clean up some more of the mess left by StiviS.`
`01:15.50`	`CIA-42`	`03ananhaid * r74015 10Skinner/Localisations.lua:`
`01:15.54`	`CIA-42`	`Skinner:`
`01:15.56`	`CIA-42`	`- zhCN update.`
`01:15.58`	`CIA-42`	`03ananhaid * r74014 10Mendeleev/locales/zhCN.lua:`
`01:16.00`	`CIA-42`	`Mendeleev:`
`01:16.02`	`CIA-42`	`- zhCN update.`
`01:16.04`	`CIA-42`	`03trefane * r74016 10SmartFitter/ (4 files):`
`01:16.06`	`CIA-42`	`SmartFitter:`
`01:16.06`	`starlon`	`lol`
`01:16.08`	`CIA-42`	`- Improved search time by removing items that can't possibly win.`
`01:16.10`	`CIA-42`	`- Fixed issue where some items were not included in search.`
`01:16.12`	`CIA-42`	`- Added new gems.`
`01:16.16`	`CIA-42`	`- Updated .toc to new version.`
`01:16.18`	`stew_a`	`is it catching up with all of the commits it missed?`
`01:16.42`	`Aiiane`	`i'd assume so.`
`01:16.44`	Funkeh`	`well, do we go from 74003 to 74006 usually?`
`01:16.45`	`CIA-42`	`03next96 * r74017 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:`
`01:16.45`	`CIA-42`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`01:16.45`	`CIA-42`	`- Update locale koKR`
`01:19.33`	`CIA-42`	`03ananhaid * r74018 10AbacusLib/Abacus-2.0/Abacus-2.0.lua:`
`01:19.33`	`CIA-42`	`AbacusLib:`
`01:19.33`	`CIA-42`	`- add zhCN locale.`
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`01:20.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`its totally borken`
`01:22.16`	`Corey`	`i think theres a problem in cartographer`
`01:22.43`	`Corey`	`every time i die my waypoint arrow points in the wrong direction until i open my map`
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`01:23.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`havent seen that, i blame one of your other addons`
`01:24.14`	`Corey`	`could well be`
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`01:29.03`	`Corey`	`all my addons are wowace besides ct_core and ct_unitframes though`
`01:29.50`	`Xinhuan`	`everytime? or just sometimes?`
`01:31.07`	`Corey`	`last 2 times for sure`
`01:31.09`	`Corey`	`let me try again`
`01:32.25`	`Corey`	`ya, it doesnt update at all until i open my map`
`01:32.36`	`Corey`	`stays same distance count even`
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`01:37.41`	`CIA-42`	`03tsigo * r74019 10RaidCooldowns_Display/ (Config.lua Cooldowns.lua RaidCooldowns_Display.lua):`
`01:37.41`	`CIA-42`	`RaidCooldowns_Display:`
`01:37.41`	`CIA-42`	`- Cooldowns which don't need to be synced can now be displayed via the combat log.`
`01:37.41`	`CIA-42`	`- Now recognizes oRA cooldown events.`
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`01:40.01`	`stew_a`	`is there a lib or Api function to translate spell names into spellids? (any spell ideally, not just mine)`
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`01:40.49`	`vithos`	`spell names are non-unique`
`01:40.56`	Funkeh`	`that's not possible`
`01:41.14`	`Xinhuan`	`a single spell can have many different IDs`
`01:41.27`	Funkeh`	`1 spell name = potentially thousands of ids`
`01:41.31`	`Xinhuan`	`there's about 20+ different "Lightning Bolt" if you care to search wowhead ;p`
`01:41.33`	Funkeh`	`take enrage`
`01:41.35`	`Xinhuan`	`half of which are player versions`
`01:41.40`	`Xinhuan`	`and the other half being mob versions`
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`01:42.02`	`Poul\|Raider`	`Hello`
`01:42.08`	`Xinhuan`	`hi`
`01:42.21`	`stew_a`	`yeah ok, is there one that does just player spells?`
`01:42.26`	`Xinhuan`	`no`
`01:42.35`	`DarkElf`	`i have lightning bolt rank 1 ,2 ,3 in so that is very true`
`01:42.38`	`Xinhuan`	`you find the ID you need on wowhead and work from there instead`
`01:42.39`	`Gagorian`	`Ones in your spellbook yes`
`01:42.48`	`Gagorian`	`Others, no`
`01:42.55`	`stew_a`	`fair enough, thanks anyway`
`01:43.01`	`Xinhuan`	`meaning, you should always be going from ID --> spellname, never the other way around`
`01:43.01`	`Poul\|Raider`	`anyone know if C# got something like lua to change the values in to variables. dont remember the exact thing in lua any more but something like var1 ,var2 = var2,var1 ? (not sure whats it called so no clue what to look it up under)`
`01:43.19`	`Trefane`	`how long is it usually before files.wowace.com picks up a change after it's checked in?`
`01:43.25`	`Xinhuan`	`"change the values in to variables." <--- huh?`
`01:43.34`	`Poul\|Raider`	`two`
`01:43.38`	`Poul\|Raider`	`to = two`
`01:43.39`	`Poul\|Raider`	`sorry`
`01:43.39`	`Xinhuan`	`30 min to an hour Trefane`
`01:43.45`	`Xinhuan`	`you do`
`01:43.47`	`Xinhuan`	`temp = a`
`01:43.48`	`Trefane`	`ah, thanks. thought it was shorter`
`01:43.48`	`Xinhuan`	`a = b`
`01:43.50`	`Xinhuan`	`b = temp`
`01:44.14`	`Poul\|Raider`	`but hmm, am i wronge when i say i remember a way i could do it in one statement in lua?`
`01:44.24`	`Xinhuan`	`in lua, it will be a, b = b, a`
`01:44.32`	`Xinhuan`	`most other languages don't offer this`
`01:44.32`	`Poul\|Raider`	`ye :)`
`01:44.48`	`Xinhuan`	`you can avoid using the 3rd temporary variable in certani situations`
`01:44.49`	`Xinhuan`	`by doing`
`01:44.49`	`Poul\|Raider`	`but you know if it got some kind of fancy name to look it up under?`
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`01:44.55`	`Xinhuan`	`a = a xor b`
`01:45.02`	`Xinhuan`	`b = a xor b`
`01:45.04`	`Xinhuan`	`a = a xor b`
`01:45.12`	`Xinhuan`	`in that order (i think)`
`01:45.21`	`Poul\|Raider`	`i will just use a temp value :D`
`01:45.26`	`Xinhuan`	`or if you don't care about integer overflow/underflow, you can do`
`01:45.27`	`Xinhuan`	`a = a+b`
`01:45.30`	`Xinhuan`	`b = a-b`
`01:45.35`	`Xinhuan`	`a = b-a`
`01:45.38`	`Xinhuan`	`something like that`
`01:45.40`	`Xinhuan`	`to swap the 2 values`
`01:45.59`	`Poul\|Raider`	`looks cool to do it like that .D`
`01:46.19`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't remember the exact logic, but you can derive it ;p`
`01:46.34`	`Poul\|Raider`	`lucky me, got this school project :) we have to write a sudoku application for 6-9year old kids`
`01:46.51`	`Poul\|Raider`	`and most of the weight have to be put on design and GUI for them`
`01:47.01`	`Poul\|Raider`	`kinda borring when i just want to code`
`01:48.32`	`Xinhuan`	`wait till you start doing code to do input error checking ;p`
`01:49.24`	`Poul\|Raider`	`well :D`
`01:49.39`	`Poul\|Raider`	`goodle it and its not that big a deal :D`
`01:49.46`	`Poul\|Raider`	`seams pritty simple to check`
`01:50.06`	`Poul\|Raider`	`hard part would be about generating puzzles that only have 1 posible solution`
`01:50.19`	`Poul\|Raider`	`and we kinda can skip that part by just hardcode some puzzles into it`
`01:50.37`	`Poul\|Raider`	`because we wont get much credit for codeing it if the gui sucks`
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`01:54.27`	`Corey`	`so nobody else is havin that problem?`
`01:54.56`	`Poul\|Raider`	`Xinhuan is a xor b equal b xor a btw?`
`01:55.03`	`Poul\|Raider`	`it should be right?`
`01:55.11`	`Poul\|Raider`	`or hmm`
`01:55.18`	`stew_a`	`it is iirc`
`01:55.22`	`Xinhuan`	`a xor b is equal to b xor a`
`01:55.26`	`Poul\|Raider`	`i actuly cant remember what xor do to be exact`
`01:55.40`	`Xinhuan`	`stands for "eXclusive OR"`
`01:55.46`	`stew_a`	`a xor b = (a and not b) or (b and not a)`
`01:55.59`	`Xinhuan`	`which means only (true and false) or (false and true) will result in true`
`01:56.05`	`Xinhuan`	`i.e exactly one true value`
`01:58.49`	`Poul\|Raider`	`found the xor in c#, wasent sure if it was there`
`01:58.56`	`Poul\|Raider`	`a = a^b`
`01:59.09`	`Poul\|Raider`	`or a ^=b`
`01:59.26`	`Poul\|Raider`	`but thx, working now`
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`02:00.43`	`Poul\|Raider`	`But lagging a good word for the 3 "containers" in sudoku, Rows, Columns and Minigrids. need a word that descrips them all 3`
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`02:04.25`	`elite3vil`	`Blargh.`
`02:04.40`	`elite3vil`	`Why don't people update their mods?`
`02:05.06`	`SumpinFishy`	`We have found, most don't know about wowaceupdater, and without that, it is a PITA`
`02:05.19`	`Raij`	`Is Antiarc the only person out there with a functional Armory export?`
`02:05.23`	`elite3vil`	`Yeah, but we talk about WAU every day.`
`02:05.29`	`elite3vil`	`and it's Omen.`
`02:05.37`	`elite3vil`	`It's not like it's a mod that isn't helpful.`
`02:06.00`	`Raij`	`Omens gets updated like every 2 mins :o`
`02:06.02`	`CIA-42`	`03ananhaid * r74020 10Mendeleev/locales/zhCN.lua:`
`02:06.02`	`CIA-42`	`Mendeleev:`
`02:06.02`	`CIA-42`	`- zhCN update.`
`02:06.09`	`Estil`	`2 min? more like every 1 sec`
`02:06.09`	`Estil`	`:(`
`02:09.35`	`Diao`	`lol`
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`02:11.28`	`SumpinFishy`	`We talk about WAU everyday, but the average computer user has no friggin clue about WAU. I know people who are day 1 players, that don't even know about ace mods or what they are.`
`02:11.48`	`digmouse`	`ace svn is down?`
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`02:25.47`	`HunterZ0`	`zzzzz`
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`02:30.34`	`Cyrez`	`CIA's very sick ATM, just so people know.`
`02:31.33`	`Cyrez`	`The site's super slow and the bots are timing out left and right.`
`02:32.45`	`HunterZ0`	`bummer`
`02:32.48`	`HunterZ0`	`what's bogging the site down?`
`02:34.17`	`Cyrez`	`Not a clue. :(`
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`02:36.05`	`DarkElf`	`ok im done downloading from the site, now it wont be so bogged down lol`
`02:37.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`some project had over 5000 commits yesterday, that might be effecting it`
`02:37.55`	`Toadkiller`	`5k commits?`
`02:39.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`some project tracked on cia, not on wowace`
`02:40.34`	`Xinhuan`	`that's like 4 commits per minute`
`02:42.11`	`digmouse`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:43.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`you know you can queue up commits and stuff`
`02:43.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`depending on the vcs`
`02:44.19`	`Xinhuan`	`why would you want to do 5000 commits in a day`
`02:44.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`or it could have been a backlogs of commit messages just being sent to cia`
`02:44.48`	`nymbia`	`commit every keystroke, yo`
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`02:46.16`	`durcyn`	`nymbia's alive!`
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`02:47.39`	`Vonhinten`	`DBM or BigWigs still broken for VR?`
`02:48.10`	`nymbia`	`durcyn: nah, zombie`
`02:49.09`	`Xinhuan`	`neither are broken`
`02:49.15`	`Xinhuan`	`its wow that's broken`
`02:49.34`	`Vonhinten`	`still?`
`02:49.42`	`Vonhinten`	`wasn't fixed in this patch?`
`02:49.56`	`Xinhuan`	`blizzard has a tendency to claim they fixed something that wasn't fixed`
`02:50.06`	`Xinhuan`	`ok not really, but yeah`
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`02:54.11`	`CIA-41`	`03krakhaan * r74025 10AMP/localization.lua:`
`02:54.11`	`CIA-41`	`AMP:`
`02:54.11`	`CIA-41`	`- updated bg`
`02:57.27`	`CIA-41`	`03ananhaid * r74026 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:`
`02:57.27`	`CIA-41`	`LibBabble-Zone-3.0:`
`02:57.28`	`CIA-41`	`- zhCN update.`
`02:57.38`	`chiper_`	`they also have a tendency to yank awesome changes at the last minute`
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`03:00.07`	`CIA-41`	`03Octane666 * r74027 10SpamMeNot/SpamMeNot.toc:`
`03:00.07`	`CIA-41`	`SpamMeNot:`
`03:00.07`	`CIA-41`	`- toc update.`
`03:01.59`	`digmouse`	`grats cia is rezzed`
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`03:07.00`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
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`03:07.14`	`gmkgyf`	`!points 2000`
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`03:07.17`	`Xinhuan`	`You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).`
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`03:07.17`	`zcln`	`!points 2000`
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`03:07.22`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
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`03:07.23`	`gmkgyf`	`!points 2000`
`03:07.24`	`Bruners`	`just keep it on +Rr`
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`03:07.27`	`gmkgyf`	`!points 2000`
`03:07.28`	`Xinhuan`	`You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).`
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`03:07.35`	`kzesqala`	`!points 2000`
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`03:07.36`	`kzesqala`	`!points 2000`
`03:07.36`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
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`03:07.57`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
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`03:08.00`	`uqh`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.02`	`uqh`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.02`	`Xinhuan`	`You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).`
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`03:08.06`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.06`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
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`03:08.07`	`Xinhuan`	`You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).`
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`03:08.10`	`uqh`	`!points 2000`
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`03:08.12`	`zoal`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.12`	`zoal`	`!rating 2000`
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`03:08.12`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
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`03:08.15`	`sziizkyq`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.15`	`sziizkyq`	`!rating 2000`
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`03:08.18`	`uqh`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.18`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
`03:08.19`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.20`	`uqh`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.21`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.22`	`uqh`	`!points 2000`
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`03:08.23`	`Xinhuan`	`You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap).`
`03:08.24`	`uqh`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.25`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.26`	`uqh`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.27`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.28`	`uqh`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.28`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
`03:08.29`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.31`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.33`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.33`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
`03:08.35`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.37`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
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`03:08.38`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.38`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.38`	`Xinhuan`	`2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
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`03:08.39`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.41`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.41`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.43`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.43`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.45`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!rating 2000`
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`03:08.47`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.47`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.49`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!rating 2000`
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`03:08.51`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.51`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.53`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.53`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.55`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.55`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.57`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.57`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
`03:08.59`	`cwqqwugkvi`	`!points 2000`
`03:08.59`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:09.01`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
`03:09.03`	`uylc`	`!points 2000`
`03:09.05`	`uylc`	`!rating 2000`
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`03:11.18`	`Corey`	`come back cia we miss you`
`03:11.19`	`Lukian`	`ckknight, ops, can we get mode +R set again?`
`03:14.05`	`Corey`	`is there a better script updater than wau?`
`03:14.36`	`Corey`	`i heard saw somebody mention wuu earlier`
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`03:15.42`	`HunterZ0`	`jwowupdater is good`
`03:16.23`	`HunterZ0`	`what's up with the spambots?`
`03:16.49`	`Lukian`	`HunterZ0, someone doesn't like wau :p`
`03:16.55`	`Lukian`	`so they are spamming us`
`03:17.04`	`HunterZ0`	`silly`
`03:17.05`	`Lukian`	`even though this is hardly wau's home :p`
`03:17.11`	`Lukian`	`spammer: FAIL.`
`03:17.36`	`Corey`	`wau is awesome`
`03:17.50`	`Dashkal`	`Did someone pick up WAU or is it orphaned now that Sylv wowquit?`
`03:18.13`	`Lukian`	`the toc was updated for 2.4`
`03:18.16`	`Corey`	`jwowupdater does look cool ill have to try it`
`03:18.23`	`Lukian`	`apparently there's a security hole though`
`03:18.33`	`HunterZ0`	`wau doesnt have a toc, it's not an addon lol`
`03:18.35`	`Corey`	`what kind of security hole can it have`
`03:18.38`	`Dashkal`	`erm? how can it develop a security hole?`
`03:18.42`	`Lukian`	`HunterZ0, it has an internal toc`
`03:18.47`	`Corey`	`I don't get it`
`03:18.52`	`Dashkal`	`erm, strike that, I can think of vectors to attack from`
`03:19.21`	`HunterZ0`	`it works fine for me so i still use it, but if i have any problems i'll probably dump it for jwow`
`03:19.30`	`Dashkal`	`I do know how to DOS it easily. I can't think of any code execution exploits, though.`
`03:19.33`	`HunterZ0`	`i doubt anyone has the source to wau now other than kaelten or w/e`
`03:19.33`	`Corey`	`yea its great`
`03:19.41`	`Corey`	`its been a bit slow with loading the list lately though`
`03:20.12`	`Dashkal`	`.net is supposed to be pretty resistant to that kind of exploit, though. I'd be surprised to find one.`
`03:20.39`	`Corey`	`its prolly not true`
`03:20.40`	`Xinhuan`	`don't really see how wau is connected to spambots`
`03:21.05`	`Corey`	`how can you be upset with something that lets you be lazy anyway`
`03:21.12`	`HunterZ0`	`lol`
`03:21.23`	`Lukian`	`oumt> FIX WAU YOU LAZY TWATS FIX WAU YOU LAZY TWATS FIX WAU YOU LAZY TWATS FIX WAU YOU LAZY TWATS FIX WAU YOU LAZY TWATS FIX WAU YOU LAZY TWATS FIX WAU YOU LAZY TWATS`
`03:21.24`	`Dashkal`	`Easy: if it stops letting you be lazy :p`
`03:21.25`	`HunterZ0`	`what's that really artsy looking updater? is it any good?`
`03:21.30`	`Lukian`	`^ Xinhuan that explain it now?`
`03:21.50`	`Corey`	`i guess`
`03:21.54`	`Corey`	`but it does work fine`
`03:22.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`they were spaming random crap before that though werent they`
`03:22.20`	`*** part/#wowace liquidzoo (n=liquidzo@ip72-204-217-1.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`03:22.29`	`HunterZ0`	`NetherPanel - anyone tried that?`
`03:22.35`	`Lukian`	`has anyone specific been abusing wau on the forums or in here?`
`03:22.35`	`Corey`	`not me`
`03:22.47`	`Lukian`	`I'm sure the person is in here watching to see how effective their bots are`
`03:23.06`	`Dashkal`	`oh probably. Also seems to be pointedly ignoring any alternatives`
`03:23.12`	`HunterZ0`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10473.0 looks really pretty but i'm an engineer so i'm more about the functional aspect :p`
`03:24.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`i highly doubt this is related to wau`
`03:24.40`	`Dashkal`	`O.o so the fact that it's spamming that is just random?`
`03:24.49`	`Xinhuan`	`lua_bot is probably more spammable than i am ;p`
`03:24.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`was spaming other stuff before that`
`03:25.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`been going on for a day`
`03:25.22`	`Dashkal`	`lua_bot> "Spam spam spam, green eggs and spam"`
`03:25.29`	`Dashkal`	`lua> "Spam spam spam, green eggs and spam"`
`03:25.29`	`lua_bot`	`Dashkal: Spam spam spam, green eggs and spam`
`03:25.33`	`Dashkal`	`there we go :p`
`03:25.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`first one i saw was over 24 hours ago while i was fighting archimonde`
`03:26.04`	`Corey`	`why are you giving it ideas`
`03:26.10`	`Corey`	`thats just scary`
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`03:28.17`	`Gnarfoz`	`I don't know shit about textures in font strings, but I'm certain the texture scaling change broke BigBrother's text reporting on sheep breaks etc (it uses raid target icons in the fontstrings), the output is garbled. could someone take a look at it?`
`03:28.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah its in no way at all related to wau`
`03:29.36`	`Corey`	`speaking of fonts, anyone know a good addon like witchhunt?`
`03:29.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`the fix wau thing was just because somebody was reporting they found a security hole in it right before and whoever it is has been spaming stuff somewhat related to recent convos`
`03:29.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`Corey: witchhunt`
`03:30.18`	`Corey`	`i dont like how it puts itself in my sct now`
`03:30.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`so change the settings`
`03:31.10`	`Corey`	`i didn't see any settings related to that except to make it bigger/smaller`
`03:31.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`its there`
`03:31.24`	`Corey`	`ok`
`03:31.27`	`Corey`	`ill look harder`
`03:31.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`message output`
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`03:34.29`	`Corey`	`ya cheers, didn't see the + before`
`03:34.34`	`Corey`	`thats exactly what i wanted`
`03:36.44`	`Dashkal`	`ok, this is getting annoying`
`03:37.03`	`Dashkal`	`clicking my pet frame (using ag_US) brings up my alchemy panel`
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`03:37.19`	`Dashkal`	`UF*`
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`03:37.36`	`Dashkal`	`maybe I set it up in clique accidently... dunno`
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`03:38.04`	`Corey`	`~seen cncfanatics`
`03:38.13`	`purl`	`cncfanatics <i=50c91cd7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8a6b695649d3a971> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 12h 11m 36s ago, saying: 'they like, destroyed my old one and hid theirs'.`
`03:38.13`	`Corey`	`that not how its done? ;o`
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`03:38.32`	`Corey`	`ahh`
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`03:39.09`	`Dashkal`	`cnc is EU. beware of timezones`
`03:39.42`	`Corey`	`i just want to bug him to add the stuff to his addon i've been askin for, for awhile lol`
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`03:41.07`	`Corey`	`like item tracking per button modifier or being able to drag things out of certain modifiers`
`03:48.35`	`Corey`	`doesn't seem like all that many people use it`
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`03:50.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`+r please`
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`03:50.54`	`Corey`	`or a ban for that ip`
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`03:51.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`its probably an open proxy`
`03:51.22`	`Corey`	`that host says router`
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`03:54.06`	`Dashkal`	`if its an open proxy, kline the damn thing`
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`03:57.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`open proxies get klined once their detected`
`04:00.15`	`CIA-42`	`03apoco * r74028 10RBM_Sunwell/Muru.lua: RBM_Sunwell: Fixed Blizzard's stupid bug in muru in this patch (with the mods not auto-stopping), added Muru Health Bar.`
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`04:01.34`	`Dashkal`	`is there a similarally minimal replacement for chronometer? The thing hasn't noticed a mob die since 2.4...`
`04:02.14`	`Yssaril`	`Nargiddley: ping i submitted a new patchfile for http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-169 i think i fixed all the problems with the orignial one`
`04:02.21`	`Dashkal`	`eh, mebbe I should just hack up a libbars replacement for it over the weekend...`
`04:03.56`	`DARKGuy`	`hm, does Quartz's Flight timer works?`
`04:04.02`	`Yssaril`	`~seen Nargiddley`
`04:04.10`	`purl`	`nargiddley is currently on #wowuidev (6h 14m 40s) #wowace (6h 14m 40s), last said: 'I think you're getting stuck on the names of variables, order is the only thing that matters'.`
`04:04.11`	`Nargiddley`	`i saw it`
`04:04.22`	`Dashkal`	`Quartz is all-in-wonder. I only want a simple bar timer for debuffs I put on people`
`04:04.31`	`Nargiddley`	`you dont need to ping me in 4 different places`
`04:04.47`	`Yssaril`	`sry`
`04:04.49`	`DARKGuy`	`I <3 Quartz tho, so that's why my question :P`
`04:05.01`	`Dashkal`	`:p`
`04:05.12`	`Dashkal`	`I hear good things about it, I just have no need for most of what it does`
`04:05.39`	`Dashkal`	`Hell, mebbe I can just quickly teach chronometer to drop bars for dead targets again`
`04:05.56`	`DARKGuy`	`I only use it because it's pretty and it has a nice mirror castbar, and it can make the hostile castbar BIG so I can see what is my enemy casting, and because it has a latency timer+bar graphic :P`
`04:05.58`	`HunterZ0`	`i use RBM to track target debuffs`
`04:06.14`	`DARKGuy`	`however, doesn't ElkBuffBars can do that, show a buff bar with timer if you click a target?`
`04:06.20`	`nymbia`	`quartz just uses a simple little meta to generate some little bars on the fly.. didn't need all the features of candybar or anything`
`04:06.24`	`DARKGuy`	`or focus? it's configurable like that but I find no use for it tho :P`
`04:06.48`	`Dashkal`	`Then again, I could just get out of this rut and learn quartz :p`
`04:07.01`	`DARKGuy`	`Dashkal, tried EBB ?`
`04:07.03`	`Dashkal`	`Its just that I slowly built my ui up piece by pieced and chronometer does exactly what I need it to do`
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`04:07.24`	`Dashkal`	`nope`
`04:07.43`	`Dashkal`	`Ive only heard of it, I'll have to look it up`
`04:07.44`	`DARKGuy`	`Dashkal, try ElkBuffBars, it has an option to make a new group where you can put target/focus debuffs`
`04:07.47`	`DARKGuy`	`it might help you`
`04:08.01`	`Dashkal`	`Erm? Not sure that's what I need.`
`04:08.12`	`durcyn`	`pretty sure he wants dot tracking for things he's not currently targetting`
`04:08.20`	`Dashkal`	`Chrono meter simply tracks durations on short-term powers I use. Anything under 5 or so mins`
`04:08.21`	`DARKGuy`	`oh :/`
`04:08.29`	`Dashkal`	`And it flags each ability with the target if possible`
`04:08.52`	`Dashkal`	`Problem is it can't tell when my target dies anymore. So I'm stuck with the stupid hunter's mark bars`
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`04:08.57`	`Dashkal`	`It isn't 2.4 ready, really`
`04:09.22`	`Dashkal`	`But I'm thinking I can probably replace it with a libbars mod in a couple hours so I'll prolly just do that`
`04:10.20`	`DARKGuy`	`ohh okay`
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`04:14.03`	`Dashkal`	`wow, bad drop day for underbelly whelp scales..`
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`04:27.49`	`Vonhinten`	`hmm, blizz fucked up the drawing code for the chat windows`
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`04:28.32`	`vithos`	`Antiarc: i'm still pulling aggro way early sometimes. just pulled at 100% off a warrior tank, after feigning death on twins trash. i'm a BM hunter using r73937, the warrior is using r73134. another hunter was actually about to pull aggro according to omen, but then it went to me instead`
`04:29.00`	`vithos`	`also name bracket modification isn't working on outgoing messages in chatter`
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`04:42.45`	`Vonhinten`	`I guess MikScrollingBattleText is either not Ace or not on wowace svn eh?`
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`05:03.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`its neither`
`05:05.52`	`Vonhinten`	`MSBT doesn't really lend itself to changing scroll areas and events...`
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`05:06.59`	`Vonhinten`	`The Events area needs to actually show which scroll area its assigned to, without having to bring up the edit screen..`
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`05:13.11`	`RaydenUni`	`as a bear i use all: lacerate, mangle, maul right?`
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`05:13.39`	`Vonhinten`	`http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16902-feral_druid_megathread/`
`05:13.41`	`Vonhinten`	`read`
`05:17.10`	`RaydenUni`	`wasn't swipe supposed to stop breaking CC in 2.4?`
`05:17.11`	`kappaccino`	`lol`
`05:17.15`	`RaydenUni`	`just like multi shot?`
`05:17.25`	`Vonhinten`	`no`
`05:17.31`	`kappaccino`	`I used everything man`
`05:17.39`	`kappaccino`	`maul, swipe, lacerate, mangle`
`05:17.50`	`kappaccino`	`just when it's appropriate or course ( not break sheeps)`
`05:17.56`	`RaydenUni`	`yeah but maul is rage intensive`
`05:18.00`	`RaydenUni`	`~40 rage per maul`
`05:18.07`	`kappaccino`	`they changed it?`
`05:18.10`	`RaydenUni`	`no`
`05:18.17`	`RaydenUni`	`10 rage and then the rage you would have gained`
`05:18.25`	`RaydenUni`	`mangle whenever it is up`
`05:18.29`	`RaydenUni`	`then keep lacerate up to 5`
`05:18.34`	`RaydenUni`	`then maul if i have extra rage?`
`05:18.50`	`kappaccino`	`don't put too much thought into it`
`05:19.06`	`kappaccino`	`just maul once in a while when you have the rage`
`05:19.43`	`HunterZ0`	`is there any point to lacerating when it's already stacked to 5?`
`05:19.51`	`kappaccino`	`keeping it up?`
`05:19.55`	`RaydenUni`	`swipe is better than lacerate for single targets at some AP?`
`05:20.02`	`kappaccino`	`it's like sunder armor except with a bleed`
`05:20.09`	`RaydenUni`	`lacerate does very low dmg`
`05:20.18`	`RaydenUni`	`it says it does increased threat`
`05:20.18`	`kappaccino`	`shrugs`
`05:20.26`	`kappaccino`	`too much thought man`
`05:20.30`	`RaydenUni`	`so if there are already 5 up and you use it, does it give you full threat?`
`05:20.46`	`RaydenUni`	`and is sunder armor the same way?`
`05:20.53`	`RaydenUni`	`renewing it gives full threat?`
`05:21.08`	`kappaccino`	`if your routine is getting dps killed`
`05:21.10`	`kappaccino`	`then change it up`
`05:22.03`	`RaydenUni`	`this seems important`
`05:22.13`	`RaydenUni`	`if i have 5 stacks of lacerate, what happens if i use it again?`
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`05:25.23`	`Dashkal`	`RaydenUni: It still does threat (a lil under full, only a lil) Most threat is up front independant of the damage`
`05:25.30`	`RaydenUni`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:25.34`	`Dashkal`	`the dot itself does very little damage and even less threat`
`05:25.38`	`RaydenUni`	`the bleed does an insignificant amount of threat`
`05:26.09`	`Dashkal`	`I mostly just hammer on lacerate and hit mangle whenever its up. I rarely lose aggro on single targets`
`05:26.55`	`Dashkal`	`Maul is a nice rage dump, but it's too expensive for constant use in my experience`
`05:27.09`	`RaydenUni`	`before lacerate i had to use it`
`05:27.11`	`RaydenUni`	`we'll see now`
`05:27.12`	`Dashkal`	`I usually prefer to keep that rage for my oh shit self-heal :p`
`05:28.56`	`mykx`	`doesnt your tps suck then if you are keeping rage back?`
`05:29.50`	`Dashkal`	`I'm not really keeping rage back. I just don't dump it unless I need the threat boost`
`05:30.00`	`Dashkal`	`If my dps has salv, I rarely need the extra threat`
`05:30.17`	`Dashkal`	`I'll never not lacerate to "save rage"`
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`05:30.41`	`mykx`	`hehe`
`05:30.45`	`Nargiddley`	`its not worth keeping rage for frenzied regen, its a pretty pathetic heal`
`05:31.21`	`Dashkal`	`I tend to use it when I know a spike is incomming as an assist to healers (but only if I don't need the rage for something useful)`
`05:31.44`	`Dashkal`	`Like I;ll hit it when the group/raid taks some damage so the healer can spare a moment and heal someone else`
`05:32.13`	`Nargiddley`	`I use trinkets for my oh shit button`
`05:32.46`	`Dashkal`	`If I'm in real trouble, I hit the real "oh shit". /cancelform; /use a pot and hs; /cast bear form (prolly with a trinket in there)`
`05:33.22`	`Dashkal`	`I use the badge of tenacity and a stam trinket, so that fires too`
`05:33.24`	`Nargiddley`	`pocket watch + badge is my oh shit atm`
`05:34.06`	`Dashkal`	`I prefer the stam most of the time, but I've never worked the math`
`05:34.14`	`Dashkal`	`(I so rarely maintank it really doesn't matter so much to me)`
`05:34.56`	`Dashkal`	`I'll almost always risk the powershift in an oh shit situation. I'm dead anyway, why not.`
`05:35.18`	`mykx`	`I don't think we have had a feral drood in our raid for about 3 months`
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`05:36.03`	`RaydenUni`	`my old guild didn't have one`
`05:36.06`	`RaydenUni`	`one resto druid was all`
`05:36.31`	`mykx`	`we just picked up another, making our resto druid count 2 lol`
`05:36.49`	`RaydenUni`	`for kara we did two warrior or a warrior/paly combo`
`05:36.55`	`RaydenUni`	`feral drood would have been nice`
`05:37.00`	`Dashkal`	`I don't know if I'm going to keep playing my druid. I jsut jumped servers (without transferring). And come lick king I fully intend to have my DK hit 80 first`
`05:37.01`	`mykx`	`6% twins wipe tonight :( but we couldn't repeat it before we called raid`
`05:37.12`	`Nargiddley`	`we've been running kara with 2 druid tanks`
`05:37.19`	`Diao`	`o_o`
`05:37.25`	`Diao`	`i do kara solo tanking`
`05:37.30`	`Diao`	`prot warr :O`
`05:37.41`	`Diao`	`who needs an OT :P`
`05:37.42`	`Nargiddley`	`well, one of us is dps 90% of the time`
`05:37.55`	`Dashkal`	`Diao: How do you deal with the skeleton pairs before opera?`
`05:38.03`	`Diao`	`shackle`
`05:38.16`	`Dashkal`	`good timing when you get iceblocked?`
`05:38.18`	`Diao`	`or do you mean the ice tomb agro drop?`
`05:38.21`	`Dashkal`	`that one`
`05:38.21`	`Diao`	`yeah`
`05:38.25`	`Nandini`	`grounding totem can sometimes eat that ice tomb`
`05:38.27`	`Diao`	`i spellreflect like a pro`
`05:38.31`	`Dashkal`	`ahh, nice`
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`05:38.37`	`GitHub25`	`kennel: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-0528022`
`05:38.38`	`Diao`	`it still drops agro`
`05:38.38`	`Diao`	`but`
`05:38.39`	`GitHub25`	`Bah, missed a paren`
`05:38.41`	`GitHub25`	`http://github.com/tekkub/kennel/commit/05280226aa501c78c904b3e550a6a679fe578a9e`
`05:38.42`	`Dashkal`	`that's one of the "need an OT" situations for us`
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`05:38.48`	`Diao`	`i can intervene the person who gets agro`
`05:38.50`	`Diao`	`and shield slam it`
`05:38.52`	`Diao`	`before they grab agro`
`05:38.56`	`Diao`	`so it goes right back to me`
`05:40.28`	`Dashkal`	`nice`
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`05:43.03`	`Dashkal`	`man, I don't remember pet pathing being quite this bad since the 1.X days...`
`05:43.17`	`Dashkal`	`my pet and the mob dance for a good 40 yards before stopping a good third of the time`
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`05:44.13`	`syeren`	`I hate drugs.`
`05:45.08`	`vithos`	`Dashkal: that's been happening to me ever since TBC came out (probably before too, but i didn't play before TBC)`
`05:45.14`	`Dashkal`	`hmm`
`05:45.26`	`vithos`	`more like one out of every thousand times though, not 1/3`
`05:45.39`	`Dashkal`	`1/3 is exagerating, but it's prolly 1/10`
`05:45.51`	`Dashkal`	`the dance is about a full bowshot`
`05:46.09`	`vithos`	`could be worsened by server framerate dropping`
`05:46.20`	`vithos`	`which seems to happen a lot after patches for some reason`
`05:46.23`	`Dashkal`	`Easy to measure since it's usually right towards me`
`05:46.34`	`vithos`	`oh, towards you?`
`05:46.43`	`vithos`	`they're always running away for me`
`05:46.48`	`Dashkal`	`it\'s always in the direction the mob movs when it aggros the pet`
`05:47.00`	`vithos`	`weird`
`05:47.03`	`Dashkal`	`(almost always, I've had them go every which way)`
`05:47.11`	`vithos`	`but yeah i know what you're talking about`
`05:47.24`	`vithos`	`it sucks when they dance their way into aggroing more shit`
`05:47.29`	`Dashkal`	`It's like they keep competing to get next to each other`
`05:47.33`	`vithos`	`yep`
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`05:47.58`	`Dashkal`	`I'm thinking WTF? The server controls both of them... how are they getting out of sync like that?`
`05:48.38`	`Dashkal`	`I used to think that the client controlled pet pathing, except the pet stops dead if you lag out`
`05:48.49`	`vithos`	`there's probably a very small specific range that causes them to reposition every frame, leapfrogging back and forth for some reason`
`05:49.31`	`vithos`	`one is probably moving too far each time`
`05:49.36`	`vithos`	`causing the other to back away`
`05:49.39`	`vithos`	`and it repeats`
`05:50.41`	`vithos`	`could have something to do with server framerate, because the length of a server frame would determine the distance moved`
`05:51.06`	`CIA-42`	`03nirek * r74029 10Reslack/Reslack.lua: Reslack: add 90 second summon delay option`
`05:51.44`	`vithos`	`anyway, going to bed now`
`05:51.50`	`Dashkal`	`waves`
`05:54.14`	`Vonhinten`	`is it just me, or do the fonts in MSBT look like shit at large sizes`
`05:55.40`	`Nandini`	`it may be directly changing the size of a fontinstance, which at least in the past used to just scale up the pixmaps the truetype renderer already created for a smaller size`
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`05:56.04`	`ckruse`	`greetings.`
`05:56.08`	`Nandini`	`usually scaling a fontstring now causes a new set of pixmaps to be rendered`
`05:57.05`	`Nandini`	`but it might still be possible to override the fontinstance's size and cause that blocky pixellated effect`
`05:57.31`	`Dashkal`	`creeeepy corpse spinning bug!`
`05:57.44`	`Nandini`	`(this actually saves memory in the rendering engine because fewer textures have to be created for the font)`
`05:59.35`	`CIA-42`	`03ennuilg * r74030 10/branches/scorchio/ (. core.lua embeds.xml locales/localisation.lua scorchio.toc):`
`05:59.35`	`CIA-42`	`scorchio:`
`05:59.35`	`CIA-42`	`- Ace3 version development`
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`06:05.24`	`CIA-42`	`03scorpion * r74031 10AutoBar/ (10 files):`
`06:05.24`	`CIA-42`	`AutoBar :`
`06:05.24`	`CIA-42`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:05.24`	`CIA-42`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`06:09.13`	`CIA-42`	`03toadkiller * r74032 10AutoBar/libs/:`
`06:09.13`	`CIA-42`	`AutoBar :`
`06:09.13`	`CIA-42`	`-- Babble-Zone-2.2 --> LibBabble-Zone-3.0`
`06:09.13`	`CIA-42`	`-- Remove AceLocale 2.2`
`06:11.45`	`CIA-42`	`03toadkiller * r74033 10AutoBar/ (6 files):`
`06:11.45`	`CIA-42`	`AutoBar :`
`06:11.45`	`CIA-42`	`-- 2.04.01.52 beta ()`
`06:11.45`	`CIA-42`	`-- Babble-Zone-2.2 --> LibBabble-Zone-3.0`
`06:11.46`	`CIA-42`	`-- Add Show Extended Tooltips setting. Enabled allows comparison tooltips and extended tips by other mods.`
`06:11.48`	`CIA-42`	`-- Remove AceLocale 2.2`
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`06:16.02`	`Toadkiller`	`So any word on the 5k commits addon?`
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`06:16.36`	`Toadkiller`	`Elkano: hey thanks for the stuff u posted in prvate chat`
`06:16.47`	`Toadkiller`	`Dont know what registering here means tho?`
`06:17.25`	`Toadkiller`	`Pkekyo\|: ping and switch to ButtonFacade pls`
`06:17.40`	`Toadkiller`	`Zhinjio`
`06:17.59`	`durcyn`	`Toadkiller: not an addon, just another project that uses cia`
`06:18.12`	`Toadkiller`	`aha`
`06:19.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`huh?`
`06:20.40`	`Toadkiller`	`cia broke down last night due to 5k commits. apparently from another project ...`
`06:20.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`its just cia being slow, not exactly sure why`
`06:20.58`	`Toadkiller`	`ah ok`
`06:21.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`no guarentiy thats why`
`06:21.07`	`Toadkiller`	`disk space if I had to guess`
`06:21.15`	`Arrowmaster`	`since ive seen other projects get close to that in a day too`
`06:22.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`if it was disk space i dont think it would be working at all`
`06:22.32`	`Dashkal`	`Low disk space + paging?`
`06:22.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`no`
`06:23.30`	`Toadkiller`	`The database needs a colonic?`
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`06:30.31`	`Elkano`	`Toadkiller: hmm?`
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`06:33.19`	`ramoz`	`what 5k commit?`
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`06:44.54`	`CIA-42`	`03Bangerz * r74034 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/ (Bang!LibramSwap.lua Bang!_Libram_Swap.toc localization.lua):`
`06:44.55`	`CIA-42`	`Bang!_Libram_Swap: 2.4.I3`
`06:44.55`	`CIA-42`	`-Added localization for the german client, added retribution PVP librams into ret mode.`
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`06:47.24`	`Toadkiller`	`Elkano: you mentioned something about me not getting whispers for some reason?`
`06:48.03`	`Toadkiller`	`what the heck is ban!libram swap for other than the obvious?`
`06:49.28`	`ckruse`	`"The Ultimate, GCD-free, automated libram swapping for all specs"`
`06:49.32`	`ckruse`	`hrhr`
`06:50.31`	`Elkano`	`Toadkiller, yeah, freenode blocks your outgoing whispers if you aren't authed to nameserv`
`06:51.25`	`kergoth`	`its per user, you can set a mode on yourself to allow receipt of messages from non-identified users`
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`06:58.39`	`CIA-42`	`03elkano * r74035 10ElkBuffBars/ (12 files in 5 dirs): ElkBuffBars: reverted changes by 7destiny`
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`07:01.10`	`ncd\|Aileen`	`duuno bam!libram swap has so much crap implemented :D`
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`07:12.18`	`CIA-42`	`03elkano * r74036 10FuBar_FactionsFu/ (FuBar_FactionsFu.lua FuBar_FactionsFu.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): FuBar_FactionsFu: removed unused Deformat-2.0`
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`07:21.49`	`Welsh`	`Hey, this is totally the wrong channel for this and I know that -- but I have a huge spanish project due tomorrow and need help on it ASAP. Somebody with basic spanish skills can help me out, easily. I just have a question or two. It's really easy, but I don't know how to do it!`
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`07:29.04`	`Vonhinten`	`You make the bed, you sleep in it`
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`07:35.20`	`CIA-42`	`03jerry * r74037 10lern2count/Default/Bongos3_Buttons.lua: lern2count: bugfix Bongos3 module`
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`07:37.58`	`Toadkiller`	`Welsh: Taco, burrito, es ist muy grande, Casa Bonita, quesadila. thats all u need to know`
`07:38.15`	`Welsh`	`:/ I got it anyway, thanks, though.`
`07:39.32`	`CIA-42`	`03alar 07Ace3 * r74038 10AlarModules/AlarBgHelper/: Removed file/folder`
`07:41.24`	`CIA-42`	`03jerry * r74039 10Talented/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Talented: Corrections to the enUS locales. Thanks Seerah.`
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`07:54.07`	`Nandini`	`hmmm casa bonita`
`07:54.41`	`Nandini`	`i went there once about 20 years ago when we visited the denver mint with a school group`
`07:55.03`	`Nandini`	`i was pretty amused to see it show up as a south park reference, the cliff divers really are cool. LOL`
`07:55.36`	`Nandini`	`man i'm getting old`
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`08:00.36`	`GitHub153`	`Ally EPL tweak`
`08:00.38`	`GitHub153`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/65dd43136e0bc59acdc2eb55e5057c16881b06f6`
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`08:42.03`	`Xamy`	`hi`
`08:42.48`	`thul`	`hey`
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`08:44.37`	`CIA-42`	`03ammo 07RC1 * r74040 10Ace3/AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua: Ace3 - ACE-173 - don't error on nil handle for CancelTimer(), just bail out early.`
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`08:49.58`	`CIA-42`	`03ammo 07RC1 * r74041 10Ace3/AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua: Ace3 - bump minor of acetimer grr`
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`08:57.22`	`CIA-42`	`03StiviS * r74042 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:`
`08:57.22`	`CIA-42`	`AutoBar :`
`08:57.22`	`CIA-42`	`- esES updated`
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`09:03.22`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i hate blizzards ticket categories...`
`09:03.50`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`under what point am i supposed to report a farm bot? if physical harrassment explicitly excludes creep spawn camping?`
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`09:04.04`	`thul`	`spamming`
`09:04.21`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`thul i am not talking about char advertisment`
`09:04.33`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i am talking about a bot standing in nagrand camping a mote of air thingy`
`09:04.37`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`for 4 days now`
`09:04.40`	`thul`	`I know`
`09:04.40`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`24hours`
`09:04.43`	`thul`	`:-P`
`09:04.50`	`thul`	`but still, just use spamming? and explain to a gm?`
`09:05.23`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`there is now spam category ... unless the bot says something and i could report him for spam...`
`09:06.06`	`thul`	`:-(`
`09:07.53`	`ncd\|Aileen`	`Open a ticket because the Bot is stuck! :p`
`09:09.24`	`CIA-42`	`03StiviS * r74043 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-esES.lua:`
`09:09.24`	`CIA-42`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`09:09.24`	`CIA-42`	`- esES updated`
`09:09.25`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`i just made a ticket about physical harrassment ... starting with the words "spawn camping is not considered physical harrassment but ... what the heck is this bot doing then?`
`09:09.29`	`FtH\|Daemona`	`;=)`
`09:10.00`	`CIA-42`	`03nargiddley 07RC1 * r74044 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/ (AceGUIWidget-TabGroup.lua AceGUIWidget-TreeGroup.lua):`
`09:10.00`	`CIA-42`	`Ace3 - AceGUI: TreeGroup: Tree is now sizable by dragging, orig patch by yssaril`
`09:10.00`	`CIA-42`	`- Update TabGroup widget for Acquire -> OnAcquire change`
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`09:43.53`	`CIA-42`	`03ammo * r74045 10BetterInbox/ (6 files in 3 dirs):`
`09:43.53`	`CIA-42`	`BetterInbox:`
`09:43.53`	`CIA-42`	`- Add localization support`
`09:43.53`	`CIA-42`	`- Add checkboxes to the inbox items and 'selected *' options to the dropdown to open only the checked mails`
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`09:47.10`	`CIA-42`	`03ammo * r74046 10BetterInbox/ (BetterInbox.lua locale/enUS.lua): BetterInbox: forgot one localization`
`09:47.31`	`thul`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_cwI1Xj4M best..ever!`
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`09:49.40`	`CIA-42`	`03nargiddley 07RC1 * r74047 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-TreeGroup.lua: Ace3 - AceGUI: TreeGroup: Prevent the tree from being resized wider than can fit in the frame`
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`09:53.12`	`CIA-42`	`03anea * r74048 10SpamSentry/ (7 files in 4 dirs):`
`09:53.12`	`CIA-42`	`SpamSentry 20080516:`
`09:53.12`	`CIA-42`	`- Updated German translation (thanks Gamefaq)`
`09:53.12`	`CIA-42`	`- Updated filters`
`09:53.13`	`CIA-42`	`- A little code-cleanup`
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`09:55.10`	`stew_a`	`Was someone saying yesterday they were having problems with chatter's playernames not applying to their own name?`
`09:55.27`	`charon`	`yes`
`09:57.15`	`stew_a`	`fair enough, anyone know why? mine's started doing it`
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`10:00.54`	`Xinhuan`	`anyone knows if archimonde is hotfixed yet?`
`10:01.20`	`charon`	`there was a blue post, but i guess you know that already?`
`10:01.36`	`charon`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4095539574&pageNo=1&sid=1#0`
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`10:04.46`	`Xinhuan`	`thanks charon :)`
`10:05.05`	`Xinhuan`	`so they didn't really revert him 100%`
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`10:06.20`	`CIA-42`	`03zeksie * r74049 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Now checks if a reagent is actually used before reporting current count.`
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`10:09.03`	`ruith`	`Anybody here familar with magicmarker?`
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`10:15.20`	`CIA-42`	`03ananhaid * r74050 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua:`
`10:15.20`	`CIA-42`	`LibBabble-Inventory-3.0:`
`10:15.20`	`CIA-42`	`- zhCN update.`
`10:16.20`	neRd`	`Anyone know how to hide de macro text and keybindings in the 1st bar of Bartender 4 ?`
`10:16.26`	neRd`	`de = the`
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`10:16.32`	`thul`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO2oayC54dg`
`10:16.33`	`CIA-42`	`03dodge * r74051 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 5 dirs):`
`10:16.33`	`CIA-42`	`CoolDownButtons:`
`10:16.33`	`CIA-42`	`- readded Items to Spell Cooldown Bar feature`
`10:16.33`	`CIA-42`	`03dodge 072.1 * r74052 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 5 dirs):`
`10:16.33`	`CIA-42`	`CoolDownButtons:`
`10:16.34`	`CIA-42`	`- readded Items to Spell Cooldown Bar feature`
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`10:20.19`	`Snago`	`w00t! "Congratulations! You're invited to play HKO!" ;D`
`10:20.36`	`[SW]Dodge`	`hko?`
`10:20.40`	`Snago`	`Hello Kitty Online Closed Beta :)`
`10:20.45`	`[SW]Dodge`	`=)`
`10:20.46`	`[SW]Dodge`	`need`
`10:20.47`	`[SW]Dodge`	`!`
`10:21.09`	`[SW]Dodge`	`i only got a hellokitty mail adress :/`
`10:21.29`	`Snago`	`hehe, maybe I could sell the beta key on ebay as I don't really have time now :P`
`10:21.44`	`[SW]Dodge`	`^^`
`10:21.52`	`thul`	`age of conan`
`10:21.53`	`thul`	`:-P`
`10:22.14`	`[SW]Dodge`	`wotlk^^`
`10:22.34`	`Snago`	`HK 4 life`
`10:23.16`	`Kuja^`	`eh, what?`
`10:23.58`	`Snago`	`http://www.hellokittyonline.com/`
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`10:27.45`	Funkeh`	`quakenet (Broadcast) Hi everyone! We're sorry we just banned lots of you - this was our mistake by having a little bug in Q. Q has been told off and is behaving now. We're working on a way to remove the bans Q just set automatically and we'll get back to you in a bit. In the mean time please use /msg Q banclear #yourchannel to remove bans! Sorry!`
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`10:29.24`	`haste`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:30.00`	`mikma`	`Snago: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/hello_kitty.jpg`
`10:30.44`	`Snago`	`hehe`
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`10:34.55`	`dlat`	`hi there. is there any addon known to cause an extreme fps drop (it's basically frosen) + disconnect afterwards in the najentus fight? http://pastebin.com/m17f03c72`
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`10:35.21`	`vhaarr`	`no`
`10:35.26`	`vhaarr`	`dlat: when does it happen?`
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`10:35.46`	`dlat`	`right in the beginning.`
`10:35.47`	`CIA-42`	`03rabbit * r74053 10oRA2/ (22 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: Update the core revision from each module.`
`10:36.52`	`vhaarr`	`no, that doesn't make any sense`
`10:37.28`	`dlat`	`hmm`
`10:37.46`	`vhaarr`	`I don't use ArenaPointer, FuBar_RegenFu, FuBar_TopScoreFu, HunterAEP, Proximo, Recount, or SWStats.`
`10:37.57`	`vhaarr`	`so perhaps try to disable some of those and see`
`10:38.26`	`dlat`	`after i reconnected into the fight there were no problems.`
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`10:42.27`	`CIA-42`	`03hegarol * r74054 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua:`
`10:42.27`	`CIA-42`	`AtlasLoot_RepFactions:`
`10:42.27`	`CIA-42`	`- corrected wrong item ID`
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`10:47.56`	`Hjalte`	`argh, guacamole in keyboard! bad!`
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`10:50.57`	`Snago`	`better than the opposite I guess.. Keyboards are gross`
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`10:51.18`	`Dezzimal`	`dlat: possibly recount`
`10:51.26`	`Dezzimal`	`it does a bit of processing when you drop combat`
`10:51.30`	`Groktar`	`wellllll`
`10:51.31`	`Hjalte`	`They don't taste as good as guacamole at least. Yummy.`
`10:51.37`	`Groktar`	`we got melee twin to 55% tonight`
`10:51.41`	`Groktar`	`so much wasted time`
`10:51.53`	`Groktar`	`random disconnects and that evil ledge boss`
`10:52.09`	`Matrix110`	`yeah the ledge is evil`
`10:52.16`	`Matrix110`	`sometimes i could start crying there`
`10:52.28`	`Matrix110`	`you just arrive from a ninjapull`
`10:52.32`	`CIA-42`	`03toadkiller * r74055 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (4 files in 3 dirs):`
`10:52.32`	`CIA-42`	`LibPeriodicTable-3.1:`
`10:52.32`	`CIA-42`	`- Misc.Usable.BossItem`
`10:52.36`	`Matrix110`	`and get directly again a ninjapull`
`10:52.39`	`Groktar`	`yup`
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`10:54.32`	`Groktar`	`this is how our raid ended tonight`
`10:54.32`	`Groktar`	`click links in order`
`10:54.34`	`Groktar`	`http://files.rabidwolf.org/images/warcraft/random/kargondtheraid-01.jpg`
`10:54.37`	`Groktar`	`http://files.rabidwolf.org/images/warcraft/random/kargondtheraid-02.jpg`
`10:54.41`	`Groktar`	`http://files.rabidwolf.org/images/warcraft/random/kargondtheraid-03.jpg`
`10:55.13`	`Matrix110`	`hmmm`
`10:55.18`	`Matrix110`	`shattrath portal @twins`
`10:55.26`	`Groktar`	`not shattrath`
`10:55.26`	`Matrix110`	`gotta remember that`
`10:55.27`	`SunTsu`	`Zeksie: Thanks for fixing it`
`10:55.33`	`Groktar`	`gunther whipping out the atiesh`
`10:55.33`	`Groktar`	`:D`
`10:55.39`	`Matrix110`	`ye i saw that its Kara but still :P`
`10:55.57`	`Groktar`	`too bad there weren't a couple horde raids out there`
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`10:57.17`	`Groktar`	`guess which of my two characters is getting to raid sunwell:`
`10:57.32`	`Groktar`	`http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Nescient`
`10:57.35`	`Groktar`	`http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Flak`
`10:58.24`	`buu`	`Groktar: You're in a guild with warguyver?`
`10:59.00`	`Groktar`	`somehow he does 1800dps as ms on brut`
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`10:59.39`	`Groktar`	`he likes to hide in the middle of kalecgos so you can't find his portal tho`
`10:59.41`	`Groktar`	`:(`
`11:01.02`	`CIA-42`	`03toadkiller * r74056 10AutoBar/libs/:`
`11:01.02`	`CIA-42`	`AutoBar :`
`11:01.02`	`CIA-42`	`- Uhm remove babble 2.2`
`11:01.34`	`CIA-42`	`03dodge 072.1 * r74057 10CoolDownButtons/ (5 files in 4 dirs):`
`11:01.34`	`CIA-42`	`CoolDownButtons:`
`11:01.34`	`CIA-42`	`- readded possibility to Hide cooldowns (currently spells only!)`
`11:01.34`	`CIA-42`	`03dodge * r74058 10CoolDownButtons/ (5 files in 4 dirs):`
`11:01.35`	`CIA-42`	`CoolDownButtons:`
`11:01.37`	`CIA-42`	`- readded possibility to Hide cooldowns (currently spells only!)`
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`11:05.50`	`CIA-42`	`037destiny * r74059 10ElkBuffBars/ (ElkBuffBars.toc locales/ElkBuffBars.koKR.lua):`
`11:05.50`	`CIA-42`	`ElkBuffBars`
`11:05.50`	`CIA-42`	`- Added koKR localization`
`11:09.07`	`Hjalte`	`ckknight: Do you think that with Curseforge, you'll be able to have some of the umm.. "good" addon devs (i'm thinking tekkub, tuller, vhaar and such) switch over to you, instead of hanging out on Google Code, several gits and sometimes wowinterface?`
`11:09.36`	`Hjalte`	`To me, Curse has always been the place with the most dodgy addons, written by someone who clearly has no clue.`
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`11:10.42`	`phyber`	`curseforge? from the curse website people?`
`11:10.50`	`haste`	`that can be said about all sites D:`
`11:11.01`	`[Ammo]`	`including 80% of the addons on wowace`
`11:11.03`	`phyber`	`will they facelift the repository each week so that your addons and files are in a new and exciting place each time you try to update them?! :o`
`11:11.04`	`[Ammo]`	`maybe even more`
`11:11.08`	`haste`	`[Ammo]: probably more`
`11:11.46`	`[Ammo]`	`git sucks ass though when merging or something`
`11:11.56`	`[Ammo]`	`I hadn't updated my LootAlert in a while`
`11:11.58`	`[Ammo]`	`try and update it`
`11:12.05`	`[Ammo]`	`and it has conflicts?!`
`11:12.13`	`[Ammo]`	`updating from one internal revision to another`
`11:12.15`	`[Ammo]`	`fail`
`11:12.18`	`haste`	`I don't see how you can get that`
`11:12.22`	`[Ammo]`	`me neither`
`11:12.26`	`[Ammo]`	`but kergoth's git fails`
`11:12.31`	`haste`	`I haven't had any conflics merging stuff`
`11:12.36`	`haste`	`and I use git for.. quite a lot D:`
`11:12.37`	`[Ammo]`	`I just did: git pull`
`11:12.45`	`haste`	`did you have any local edits :D ?`
`11:12.48`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`11:12.57`	`[Ammo]`	`started clean ended with a big barfing mess`
`11:12.59`	`Hjalte`	`Is there any updated oUF layout out there, that is using oUF_Castbar?`
`11:13.10`	`[Ammo]`	`oUF_Castbar is probably written by a retard as well`
`11:13.23`	`[Ammo]`	`like most of the oUF_* stuff`
`11:13.28`	`[Ammo]`	`copy pasting minimalistic morons`
`11:13.46`	`haste`	`:D`
`11:13.52`	`haste`	`I haven't looked at it`
`11:13.58`	`haste`	`I avoid looking at such`
`11:14.05`	`haste`	`castbars should be added to the oUF core however`
`11:14.08`	`[Ammo]`	`looking can cause retinal damage`
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`11:14.32`	`SunTiger`	`so can thinking`
`11:14.33`	`Hjalte`	`Sometimes finding the good addons is very hard, when you have close to no coding experience at all. I hate it when I have a choice of several addons doing essentially the same.`
`11:14.36`	`haste`	`I'm done with my finals also now, so more time for coding`
`11:14.50`	`Diskmaster`	`[Ammo], git reset --hard && git pull?`
`11:14.58`	`haste`	`just need to get back home, which won't happen until later today`
`11:15.03`	`[Ammo]`	`Diskmaster: deleted the crap already and pulled fresh`
`11:15.06`	`[Ammo]`	`or cloned rather`
`11:15.39`	`[Ammo]`	`might be that msysgit is treating me badly though`
`11:15.58`	`[Ammo]`	`but conflicts when updating without local changes is shitty`
`11:16.54`	`[Ammo]`	`need name for a simple accounting addon that shows me how much money I gained this session / today / week`
`11:17.01`	`[Ammo]`	`will show that info when I mouseover my money in my bags`
`11:17.52`	`SunTiger`	`rip the code out of moneyfu ?`
`11:17.59`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`11:18.09`	`[Ammo]`	`I am looking for a name`
`11:18.15`	`[Ammo]`	`already written most of the code myself`
`11:18.28`	`SunTiger`	`accountant is taken i know that much`
`11:18.55`	`SunTiger`	`FollowTheMoney ?`
`11:19.19`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm FollowTheMoney`
`11:19.24`	`[Ammo]`	`MoneyTrail`
`11:19.44`	`mikma`	`spanktheammo`
`11:20.13`	`Diskmaster`	`KoinKounter?`
`11:20.30`	`Toadkiller`	`Anyone know what LibPeriodicTable-3.1-ClassSpell.lua is all about? Negative spell ids make no sense...`
`11:20.32`	`mikma`	`HardCurrency`
`11:20.38`	`Diskmaster`	`Economicon`
`11:20.49`	`mikma`	`CashFlow`
`11:21.04`	`mikma`	`just name it +/-`
`11:21.08`	`[Ammo]`	`haha`
`11:21.15`	`[Ammo]`	`CashBalance`
`11:21.16`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`11:21.21`	`SunTiger`	`to generic.`
`11:21.29`	`[Ammo]`	`I think I'll stick with MoneyTrail`
`11:21.30`	`mikma`	`[Ammo]: oh i know, WinCapita`
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`11:21.39`	`Toadkiller`	`ShowMeTheMoney`
`11:21.40`	`[Ammo]`	`PecuniaNonOlet`
`11:21.41`	`Diskmaster`	`DebtManager`
`11:21.52`	`mikma`	`[Ammo]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinCapita`
`11:22.27`	`mikma`	`name it like that, and get alot of enemies from finland :D`
`11:22.36`	`Diskmaster`	`SilverLacedBagofHolding+1`
`11:22.43`	`mikma`	`there's like 100 million euros missing from n+1 finnish person`
`11:22.50`	`SunTsu`	`Toadkiller: Is there a functionality in AutoBar for relics/idols as there is for trinkets?`
`11:23.22`	`Toadkiller`	`SunTsu: You know I was just pndering that after I saw some crazy relic mod get updated earlier`
`11:24.15`	`Toadkiller`	`I will add Relics Idols and librams (what am I missing?). Do you want to make the miners for them in PT3.1?`
`11:25.14`	`SunTsu`	`Toadkiller: What do you mean by "miners"?`
`11:25.48`	`SunTsu`	`I am not that much of a coder and really not deep into PT3 and such`
`11:26.03`	`SunTsu`	`But maybe I could look at it ;)`
`11:26.21`	`Toadkiller`	`ah ok nm. was assuming cuz u hang out here`
`11:27.00`	`mikma`	`Toadkiller: don't feed the troll`
`11:27.02`	`Toadkiller`	`PT3 has a mining module that grabs stuff off of wowhead.com if they have convenient searches for it`
`11:27.02`	`SunTsu`	`Toadkiller: Trying to get into it momentarily. But I'm havin problems writing my first addon anyway`
`11:27.16`	`Toadkiller`	`heh np`
`11:28.16`	`SunTsu`	`Toadkiller: Ah, I see, maybe I'll take a look at it during the weekend`
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`11:29.44`	`Toadkiller`	`Ok so idols, librams, totems, and relics? Am I missing anything?`
`11:30.37`	`SunTsu`	`Toadkiller: Can't think of anything more`
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`11:31.49`	`Toadkiller`	`scratch the relic, there is no such thing`
`11:33.52`	`Zhinjio`	`G'morning, Toadkiller.`
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`11:35.37`	`Elkano`	`Toadkiller, PT3 uses positive for items and negative for spells`
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`11:36.26`	`Toadkiller`	`Elkano: Oh, so I need to add it to some # ...?`
`11:36.48`	`Toadkiller`	`or just ditch the -?`
`11:37.14`	`Elkano`	`just ditch afaik`
`11:37.46`	`Toadkiller`	`yeah looks like ditch`
`11:37.56`	`Toadkiller`	`sup Zhinjio`
`11:39.17`	`Toadkiller`	`SunTsu: By the way there seem to be mods that based on what you are casting will swap in the correct libram totem or idol`
`11:39.30`	`Toadkiller`	`one is like bam!libram or something nutty`
`11:40.59`	`SunTsu`	`Toadkiller: Yeah, but doesn't that give me a global cooldown and reset my swing timer?`
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`11:41.40`	`CIA-42`	`03nargiddley 07RC1 * r74060 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs):`
`11:41.40`	`CIA-42`	`Ace3 - AceGUI: widget counts for naming purposes survive lib upgrades`
`11:41.40`	`CIA-42`	`- TabGroup: Use OptionsFrameTabButtonTemplate for tabs`
`11:41.40`	`CIA-42`	`- TabGroup: Tabs now span multiple lines when there are too many to fit in the width of the frame`
`11:45.33`	`mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13193.0 <- nice idea`
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`11:47.09`	`Tularis`	`shouldn't be too hard to make`
`11:47.46`	`Tularis`	`store the message sent locally, put in a link, add a handler for that kind of link and show the text in a tooltip if clicked`
`11:48.17`	`sb`	`Toadkiller: does autobar shuffle (potions, ...) work?`
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`11:51.28`	`Tularis`	`I wonder if ElkBuffBars will get ported to ACE3 anytime soon... would be nice I guess...`
`11:51.54`	`[Ammo]`	`ACE3 does not exist`
`11:52.02`	`[Ammo]`	`it's Ace3`
`11:52.08`	`Diskmaster`	`It is a figment of your ima-- hey`
`11:52.39`	`Elkano`	`maybe :P`
`11:53.22`	`Tularis`	`sry, been typing ACE-blockers and shit all day long, kind of used to typing Ace in capitals :D`
`11:53.56`	`Tularis`	`what does the "maybe" depend on exactly? :;p`
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`11:54.37`	`Diskmaster`	`brings up his console.`
`11:54.42`	`Diskmaster`	`shutdown -t now`
`11:54.45`	`Kalroth`	`I LIEK WINACE3, ITS GOOD PROGRAM FOR STARCRAFT`
`11:55.39`	`Tularis`	`mumbles and gives Kalroth a hard kick under the table`
`11:56.38`	`Kalroth`	`Oh, I was trolling Ammo, not you`
`11:56.40`	`mikma`	`vhaarr: noob`
`11:56.52`	`Kalroth`	`I prefer calling ACE for ACE, Ace just seems silly`
`11:57.54`	`Kalroth`	`I mean, when you play poker you don't go; "gee, I got 4 aces.", you go "FUCKING YES, I GOT 4 ACES!! SO OWNED, BITCHES" and the ace framework should do the same!`
`11:58.27`	`mikma`	`but ACE3 has three ACEs in it, not four`
`11:58.42`	`Kalroth`	`Well three aces is good too`
`11:58.58`	`mikma`	`ACE, [Ammo]'s Cock Exploded`
`11:59.03`	`mikma`	`yeap yeap, off ->`
`11:59.06`	`Kalroth`	`:P`
`11:59.48`	`Lukian`	`21:57:40 [1. General] <Jugonaut>: wtf blizz every night`
`11:59.48`	`Lukian`	`21:59:32 [1. General] [Zandor]: what's the pvp daily?`
`11:59.52`	`Lukian`	`hmm is that a chatter bug?`
`12:00.02`	`Lukian`	`my own name gets default brackets! :D`
`12:00.09`	`Bruners`	`spammers stopped now?`
`12:01.35`	`Elkano`	`Lukian, yes, it's a bug`
`12:01.43`	`Elkano`	`lame evl`
`12:01.49`	`Elkano`	`...blame...`
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`12:02.26`	`Zhinjio`	`Ackis: ping`
`12:04.08`	`CIA-42`	`03toadkiller * r74061 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 2 dirs):`
`12:04.08`	`CIA-42`	`LibPeriodicTable-3.1:`
`12:04.08`	`CIA-42`	`-- Gear.Idol`
`12:04.08`	`CIA-42`	`-- Gear.Libram`
`12:04.08`	`CIA-42`	`-- Gear.Totem`
`12:04.09`	`CIA-42`	`-- Miners for them`
`12:04.31`	`Toadkiller`	`Anybody set up to run the PT3.1 miners?`
`12:05.08`	`Elkano`	`Toadkiller, why do you need these in PT? they have unique inventory types iirc`
`12:05.14`	`sacarasc`	`PT3.1?`
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`12:05.52`	`Toadkiller`	`sb: Shuffle works for the cooldown buttons at the moment. It does not do cooldown yet so if u used a mixed cooldown type button it will get hung up. I will be adding cooldown and location checks soon.`
`12:05.52`	`Elkano`	`on the other hand, trinkets got one, too`
`12:06.25`	`Toadkiller`	`Elkano: ah you mean just check type and subType?`
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`12:06.50`	`Elkano`	`yeah`
`12:06.59`	`Delorala`	`folks... i need an addon, showing hunters traps remaining time (how long they last) - any tips?`
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`12:07.28`	`Elkano`	`on the other hand, you would need the localized strings then`
`12:07.36`	`Elkano`	`classtimer maybe?`
`12:08.01`	`Tularis`	`get texteditor, FreeTimeTM. Perhaps AddonExperience would be useful too, that should work`
`12:08.10`	`Toadkiller`	`Gah what? You cannot get subType & type without localized strings?`
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`12:08.52`	`Toadkiller`	`Tularis: you are speaking in tongues. That would be hot if I was a fundie`
`12:09.11`	`Zhinjio`	`quit`
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`12:09.44`	`Tularis`	`Toadkiller: I speak many tongues :)`
`12:12.01`	`Toadkiller`	`sacarasc:LibPeriodicTable-3.1`
`12:12.06`	`sacarasc`	`ah`
`12:13.46`	`Elkano`	`well, Toadkiller, they are localized, yes :/ only the slot isn't`
`12:14.41`	`CIA-42`	`03toadkiller * r74062 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar.lua:`
`12:14.41`	`CIA-42`	`LibPeriodicTable-3.1:`
`12:14.42`	`CIA-42`	`-- Gear.Idol`
`12:14.42`	`CIA-42`	`-- Gear.Libram`
`12:14.42`	`CIA-42`	`-- Gear.Totem`
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`12:17.37`	`Toadkiller`	`Elkano: That sucks a bit.`
`12:18.32`	`Toadkiller`	`still usable though`
`12:22.51`	`Toadkiller`	`Interresting quandary: add to PT3.1 bloat so people can use them, or remove them and hope their mods can search on type & subType as well.`
`12:24.41`	`Toadkiller`	`Gonna go with removing them. Adding them is a slippery slope to doing weapons & shields etc.`
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`12:29.55`	`CIA-42`	`03toadkiller * r74063 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (4 files in 3 dirs):`
`12:29.55`	`CIA-42`	`LibPeriodicTable-3.1:`
`12:29.55`	`CIA-42`	`- Ok undo the idol, totem, libram stuff. Elkano points out its better handled through GetItemInfo type & subType.`
`12:30.19`	`vhaarr`	`mikma: n00b`
`12:30.31`	`vhaarr`	`what did I do now? :/`
`12:32.17`	`CIA-42`	`03charon * r74064 10Chatter/Modules/PlayerNames.lua: Chatter: Fix player name formatting in outgoing messages`
`12:32.31`	`charon`	`this should fix evl's "fix" to what it was intended to be`
`12:33.27`	`charon`	`did he get permission before changing the semantics?`
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`12:38.23`	`Elkano`	`charon, I wonder if you fixed it the same way I did localy ^^`
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`12:40.53`	`charon`	`well look at the patch... and if you had already fixed it, why didn't you commit :(`
`12:45.39`	`anenigma_`	`ok, from my very quick+rough guesses, libparser (any version) should not be required any more. correct? secondly, wonder how 'good' it is to just remove it and see what happens`
`12:46.45`	`kenlyric`	`heh`
`12:46.48`	`kenlyric`	`it will explode`
`12:47.02`	`kenlyric`	`but yes, libparser shouldn't be used. Is it even on the svn anymore?`
`12:47.42`	`anenigma_`	`no idea, tbh. it's throwing errors on load, so i'm checking my addons to see which is loading it`
`12:47.47`	`anenigma_`	`so far, only chronometer`
`12:47.53`	`kenlyric`	`errr`
`12:48.46`	`Elkano`	`ParserLib was nuked from SVN post 2.4.2`
`12:49.24`	`kenlyric`	`chron has not been updated for 2.4`
`12:49.28`	`kenlyric`	`or 2.3 for that matter`
`12:49.42`	`anenigma_`	`i should add at this point, that i just came back from a one year break`
`12:49.50`	`anenigma_`	`and i just updated my "old" addons`
`12:49.57`	`anenigma_`	`so yeah, still sorting out discarded mods`
`12:50.01`	`kenlyric`	`yeah, any mod which hasn't been updated since 2.4 and uses the combatlog is going to be broken`
`12:50.35`	`kenlyric`	`sigh`
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`12:51.12`	`kenlyric`	`files.wowace.com should give last updated time without regard to libraries`
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`12:51.52`	`_rane`	`what would be the best way track cyclone durations on party members?`
`12:51.59`	`_rane`	`and diminishing returns of them`
`12:52.05`	`_rane`	`SPELL_AURA_APPLIED?`
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`12:59.12`	`charon`	`that won't catch resists, if those affect DR you'd need SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS (i wouldn't know, i'm a pve bear)`
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`13:02.08`	`CIA-42`	`03kunda * r74065 10GridStatusRaidIcons/ (6 files):`
`13:02.08`	`CIA-42`	`GridStatusRaidIcons:`
`13:02.08`	`CIA-42`	`- use global Blizzard strings for localization`
`13:02.08`	`CIA-42`	`- use exactly the same colors for text indicator as Blizzard do`
`13:02.08`	`CIA-42`	`- add pet support`
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`13:02.40`	`_rane`	`resists don't start DR timers, do they?`
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`13:08.33`	`CIA-42`	`03kunda * r74066 10GridStatusAFK/ (GridStatusAFK.lua GridStatusAFK.toc): (log message trimmed)`
`13:08.33`	`CIA-42`	`GridStatusAFK:`
`13:08.33`	`CIA-42`	`- added Grid_UnitOffline event:`
`13:08.33`	`CIA-42`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:08.33`	`CIA-42`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:08.36`	`CIA-42`	`- added deDE`
`13:08.38`	`CIA-42`	`- toc: Interface: 20400`
`13:09.45`	`ckknight`	`Hjalte: I think so, actually. The features that Kaelten and I have implemented are just far too shiny.`
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`13:13.45`	`Lukian`	`oh dear`
`13:13.49`	`Lukian`	`that's a violation bug and a half`
`13:13.58`	`Lukian`	`ignore that :p`
`13:13.59`	`Lukian`	`haha`
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`13:20.20`	`Bruners`	`so, this LibParser-4.0 and Parser-3.0 erros i keep getting, how to i fix them ?`
`13:22.01`	`Lukian`	`Bruners, nothing should be using them. ?`
`13:24.13`	`Elkano`	`charon, I don't have Chatter checked out, but I did exactly the same change ^^`
`13:25.34`	`Bruners`	`Lukian: http://ace.pastey.net/87902`
`13:27.11`	`Lukian`	`Bruners, that's easy`
`13:27.14`	`Lukian`	`update your addons`
`13:27.27`	`Bruners`	`Lukian: kinda do that ten times a day`
`13:27.46`	`Lukian`	`what in rock uses parser4 anyway?`
`13:27.49`	`Bruners`	`Lukian: been like that for a some days now`
`13:27.50`	`Lukian`	`I don't have parser4`
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`13:29.23`	`tpgfc`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.23`	`tpgfc`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.23`	`tpgfc`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.23`	`lua_bot`	`tpgfc: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:29.23`	`lua_bot`	`tpgfc: STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS`
`13:29.23`	`lua_bot`	`tpgfc: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
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`13:29.27`	`rxuflvp`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.27`	`rxuflvp`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.27`	`rxuflvp`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.27`	`lua_bot`	`rxuflvp: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:29.27`	`lua_bot`	`rxuflvp: STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS`
`13:29.27`	`lua_bot`	`rxuflvp: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
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`13:29.28`	`zlsksewta`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.28`	`zlsksewta`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.28`	`zlsksewta`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
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`13:29.28`	`mxquhs`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.28`	`mxquhs`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.28`	`mxquhs`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.28`	`lua_bot`	`zlsksewta: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:29.28`	`lua_bot`	`zlsksewta: STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS`
`13:29.29`	`zlsksewta`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
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`13:29.29`	`wr`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.29`	`wr`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.29`	`wr`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.30`	`lua_bot`	`zlsksewta: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
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`13:29.30`	`aiixh`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.30`	`aiixh`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.30`	`aiixh`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
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`13:29.31`	`jhdpjnltd`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.31`	`jhdpjnltd`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.31`	`jhdpjnltd`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
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`13:29.31`	`cpnolefstnjh`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.31`	`cpnolefstnjh`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.31`	`cpnolefstnjh`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.31`	`wr`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.31`	`aiixh`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
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`13:29.31`	`tkcwm`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.31`	`tkcwm`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.31`	`tkcwm`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.31`	`jhdpjnltd`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.31`	`cpnolefstnjh`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.32`	`wr`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.32`	`tkcwm`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
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`13:29.32`	`nba`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.32`	`nba`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.32`	`nba`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.33`	`aiixh`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.33`	`nba`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:29.33`	`cpnolefstnjh`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:29.33`	*** mode/#wowace [+Rrm] by Funkeh`
`13:29.48`	`*** join/#wowace t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw)`
`13:30.30`	`[Ammo]`	`damn that spammer`
`13:30.47`	`cladhaire`	`wow..`
`13:30.54`	*** mode/#wowace [+b !n=rau@193.140.10.*] by Funkeh`
`13:30.54`	*** kick/#WoWAce [wr!n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh] by Funkeh` (Funkeh`)
`13:31.08`	`cladhaire`	`that was special`
`13:31.14`	`[Ammo]`	`it's been happening for 2 days`
`13:31.21`	`*** join/#wowace lua_bot (i=jnw@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire)`
`13:31.21`	`*** mode/#wowace [+v lua_bot] by ChanServ`
`13:31.28`	*** mode/#wowace [-Rrm] by Funkeh`
`13:31.29`	*** mode/#wowace [-Rrm] by Funkeh`
`13:31.30`	`[Ammo]`	`main suspect: sag_ich_nicht who got banned a week ago`
`13:31.30`	`cladhaire`	`that's obnoxious`
`13:31.32`	`Gagorian`	`:O`
`13:31.38`	`cladhaire`	`O.o`
`13:31.43`	`FinalX`	`[Ammo]: I've had that moron on ignore for like 6 months already :)`
`13:31.45`	`[Ammo]`	`it's someone who knows the channel etc`
`13:31.48`	`ramoz`	`[15:02:41] < _rane> resists don't start DR timers, do they?`
`13:31.52`	`Gagorian`	`-_-`
`13:32.05`	`Nargiddley`	`seems to be someone in the channel, its always on topic :/`
`13:32.09`	`Bruners`	`[Ammo]: why did sag get banned?`
`13:32.20`	`[Ammo]`	`Bruners: being a general annoyance I suspect`
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`13:32.59`	`Bruners`	`[Ammo]: cant recall him being that annoying`
`13:34.36`	`Bruners`	`why dont you just keep it on +Rr?`
`13:35.23`	`FinalX`	`sag_ich_night has always been annoying xD`
`13:35.26`	`*** join/#wowace plutinzaz (n=blag@Moragateway.CoreRouter.gipl.net)`
`13:35.37`	`plutinzaz`	`i am the flooder!`
`13:35.48`	`Bruners`	`if anyone got anything useful to say i guess they could just go register`
`13:36.14`	`plutinzaz`	`answer _rane you lazy queers`
`13:36.23`	*** kick/#WoWAce [plutinzaz!n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh] by Funkeh` (Funkeh`)
`13:36.29`	`*** join/#wowace plutinzaz (n=blag@Moragateway.CoreRouter.gipl.net)`
`13:36.34`	`plutinzaz`	`fuck you funkeh`
`13:36.39`	*** kick/#WoWAce [plutinzaz!n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh] by Funkeh` (Funkeh`)
`13:36.41`	`*** join/#wowace plutinzaz (n=blag@Moragateway.CoreRouter.gipl.net)`
`13:36.45`	`plutinzaz`	`fuck you funkeh`
`13:36.54`	*** mode/#wowace [-b warcraft_admin!@] by Funkeh`
`13:36.54`	`Bruners`	`rich`
`13:36.58`	`*** mode/#wowace [+b !n=blag@*.CoreRouter.gipl.net] by vhaarr`
`13:36.58`	`*** kick/#wowace [plutinzaz!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr)`
`13:37.06`	`vhaarr`	`I banned sag_ich_nicht`
`13:37.27`	`vhaarr`	`I said he might be behind the spamming, but it's just a guess`
`13:37.31`	`FinalX`	`Shame this is freenode or I'd start glining some :\|`
`13:37.31`	`vhaarr`	`it doesn't matter anyway`
`13:38.15`	`cladhaire`	`lots of childish things have happened in this channel, but tahts probably one of the worst`
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`13:38.33`	`dqmdvkvc`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:38.33`	`dqmdvkvc`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:38.33`	`dqmdvkvc`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
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`13:38.33`	`rxfuopwlgcgg`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:38.33`	`rxfuopwlgcgg`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:38.33`	`rxfuopwlgcgg`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:38.33`	`lua_bot`	`dqmdvkvc: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:38.33`	`lua_bot`	`dqmdvkvc: STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS`
`13:38.33`	`lua_bot`	`dqmdvkvc: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:38.33`	`lua_bot`	`rxfuopwlgcgg: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:38.33`	`lua_bot`	`rxfuopwlgcgg: STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS`
`13:38.34`	`dqmdvkvc`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:38.34`	`rxfuopwlgcgg`	`lua> "STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS"`
`13:38.34`	`lua_bot`	`rxfuopwlgcgg: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:38.36`	`dqmdvkvc`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:38.36`	`rxfuopwlgcgg`	`lua> "you're a bunch of fucking assholes!"`
`13:38.36`	`lua_bot`	`dqmdvkvc: STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS`
`13:38.37`	*** mode/#wowace [+Rrm] by Funkeh`
`13:38.38`	`*** mode/#wowace [+Rr] by vhaarr`
`13:38.38`	`lua_bot`	`rxfuopwlgcgg: STOP CHATTING AND ANSWER ME ABOUT RESISTS`
`13:38.40`	`lua_bot`	`dqmdvkvc: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:38.42`	`lua_bot`	`rxfuopwlgcgg: you're a bunch of fucking assholes!`
`13:38.57`	`*** part/#wowace lua_bot (i=jnw@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire)`
`13:39.04`	`cladhaire`	`i'll bring him back when we've dealt with teh child`
`13:39.19`	*** mode/#wowace [-b !n=penguin@*.hlrn.qwest.net] by Funkeh`
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`13:39.27`	*** mode/#wowace [+b !n=xuesws@124.30.6.*] by Funkeh`
`13:39.28`	*** kick/#WoWAce [dqmdvkvc!n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh] by Funkeh` (Funkeh`)
`13:40.35`	`*** join/#wowace liquidzoo (n=liquidzo@ip72-204-217-1.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`13:40.44`	`*** part/#wowace liquidzoo (n=liquidzo@ip72-204-217-1.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`13:41.17`	*** mode/#wowace [-Rrm] by Funkeh`
`13:41.41`	`vhaarr`	`I don't see why we shouldn't have +Rr for a week or so.`
`13:41.51`	`Bruners`	`why not have +Rr?`
`13:41.57`	`ramoz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:42.00`	`*** mode/#wowace [+Rr] by vhaarr`
`13:42.10`	`SunTsu`	`Ah, it's getting IRCNETish`
`13:42.44`	`SunTsu`	`Kids trying to anoy everybody..`
`13:42.49`	`SunTsu`	`annoy even`
`13:42.57`	`Bruners`	`ramoz: /wii ramoz`
`13:43.21`	`EvilJohn-`	`damn kids`
`13:44.29`	`ramoz`	`sorry Bruners :O`
`13:47.20`	`kenlyric`	`I thought everybody loved wowace`
`13:47.56`	`cladhaire`	`wow`
`13:48.04`	`kenlyric`	`even clad loves us.`
`13:48.05`	`cladhaire`	`now they're spamming #lua`
`13:48.09`	`cladhaire`	`even heavier than they were in here`
`13:48.14`	`kenlyric`	`maybe they really hate lua`
`13:48.21`	`haste`	`shrugs`
`13:48.22`	`kenlyric`	`that I understand`
`13:48.37`	`vhaarr`	`they've been spamming this channel for the last 2-3 days, a lot more than they did today`
`13:49.20`	`Chompers`	`i don't get their objective`
`13:49.27`	`Vulcanus`	`to get themselves k-lined`
`13:49.28`	`Chompers`	`what does it get them :S`
`13:49.31`	`cladhaire`	`this is the first time they've used luabot tho`
`13:49.46`	`Chompers`	`they used another bot for the rating stuff`
`13:49.52`	`Vulcanus`	`yesterday it was !arena or some shit`
`13:49.53`	`vhaarr`	`yes but it's not the first time they've used bots`
`13:49.56`	`ramoz`	`isnt there a ircop in this channel?`
`13:49.57`	`vhaarr`	`!rating 200`
`13:49.57`	`Xinhuan`	`200 rating gives 58(5s), 51(3s) and 44(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
`13:49.59`	`vhaarr`	`that bot ^`
`13:50.06`	`haste`	`"bot" :D`
`13:50.06`	`SunTsu`	`Chompers: It pushes their under developed ego and have fun annoying people`
`13:50.06`	`Chompers`	`:P`
`13:50.09`	`ramoz`	`used to be atleast`
`13:51.25`	`Vulcanus`	`isn't g-line worse than k-line?`
`13:52.01`	`t`	`freenode klines are network wide`
`13:52.37`	`Vulcanus`	`oic`
`13:53.27`	`kloeri`	`ramoz: there's several ircops in this channel`
`13:53.55`	Funkeh`	`t can you kill [bigfatcunny] (n=cunny@Moragateway.CoreRouter.gipl.net): cunny`
`13:59.25`	Funkeh`	`Daemona, seen the new anti badboy spam? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12899.msg216588#msg216588`
`14:00.30`	`t`	Funkeh`: he left on his own after a quick discussion in #lua
`14:00.54`	*** mode/#wowace [+v CIA-42] by Funkeh`
`14:03.44`	`Bruners`	`what can i use instead of sorrentimers?`
`14:04.00`	Funkeh`	`quartz?`
`14:05.47`	`CIA-42`	`03kunda * r74068 10GridStatusAFK/GridStatusAFK.toc: GridStatusAFK: added X-Category and X-GridStatusModule to toc`
`14:06.01`	`Bruners`	Funkeh`: can Quartz do what ST does for me ?
`14:06.19`	Funkeh`	`what does ST do for you`
`14:06.31`	Funkeh`	`theres sa new ST on wowi I think anyway`
`14:06.47`	`*** join/#wowace Kalman\| (n=delay@dhcp-groundworks15.public.dc.umich.edu)`
`14:07.13`	`Bruners`	Funkeh`: traps mostly, and dots on my lock
`14:10.58`	`SNiLD`	`Bruners: quartz can't show timers on stuff that you haven't got targeted`
`14:11.12`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`: I had that same kind of dog (the one that's your avatar)
`14:11.23`	`SunTsu`	`Bruners: ClassTimer can do for Target and focus`
`14:11.30`	Funkeh`	`had?`
`14:11.58`	`*** join/#wowace Balstor (n=chatzill@209.205.152.84)`
`14:12.09`	`Balstor`	`test`
`14:12.20`	`Balstor`	`~last elisa`
`14:12.40`	`expiation`	`badboy looks neat`
`14:13.14`	Funkeh`	`it is neat! ^^`
`14:13.25`	Funkeh`	`ckknight, had?`
`14:13.32`	`*** join/#wowace Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-18-219-131.mem.bellsouth.net)`
`14:13.38`	`[Ammo]`	`it needs a whipping sound (succubus) everytime it kills a spammer`
`14:13.49`	Funkeh`	`!`
`14:13.51`	`*** part/#wowace Matrix110\| (n=bla@pD957D70F.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`14:13.53`	Funkeh`	`that's not a bad idea`
`14:14.06`	`expiation`	`lol that would be awesome`
`14:14.08`	Funkeh`	`or`
`14:14.09`	`Xinhuan`	`any shaman here`
`14:14.10`	`*** join/#wowace Matrix110 (n=bla@pD957D70F.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`14:14.12`	`Matrix110`	`god`
`14:14.13`	Funkeh`	`a gnome dieing`
`14:14.18`	`Matrix110`	`this registered crap fails`
`14:14.21`	`expiation`	`i like that idea too`
`14:14.25`	`Matrix110`	`-.-`
`14:14.33`	`SunTsu`	`I don't think so, here it wouldn't stop playing that sound, lately`
`14:14.49`	Funkeh`	`heeh`
`14:14.49`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`: kidney failure
`14:14.59`	Funkeh`	`ckknight, oh no :(`
`14:15.06`	`ckknight`	`she was like 13, though`
`14:15.19`	`ckknight`	`Cavalier King Charles Spaniels typically only live between 8 and 10`
`14:15.20`	Funkeh`	`ah, well thats not so bad`
`14:15.26`	Funkeh`	`average is like 15 ish`
`14:15.46`	`expiation`	`well it would probably be as an option`
`14:16.37`	`expiation`	`I don't get all that much spam though, I guess my realm is just too small for them to care`
`14:17.09`	`[Ammo]`	`I usually get a whisper or 2 per session`
`14:17.09`	`SunTsu`	`Here it really got bad the last few days, with today being the climax of whisper spam`
`14:17.22`	`[Ammo]`	`but I get some satisfaction by manually reporting them`
`14:17.26`	`Matrix110`	`[Ammo] Oo`
`14:17.32`	`Matrix110`	`i get ~15 per session`
`14:17.33`	`Kalroth`	`I only get spammed while in major cities`
`14:17.45`	`Kalroth`	`and spamsentry handles them pretty well`
`14:17.50`	`SunTsu`	`Today I get spammed everey five minutes`
`14:17.57`	`expiation`	`I get one every couple hours maybe`
`14:18.17`	Funkeh`	`Kalman\|, so does badboy :)`
`14:18.21`	Funkeh`	`fuck off`
`14:18.26`	`[Ammo]`	`give whip`
`14:18.34`	Funkeh`	`rename yourself now`
`14:18.37`	`Kalman\|`	Funkeh`: :(
`14:18.39`	Funkeh`	`Kalroth,`
`14:18.39`	`Kalman\|`	`I had it first.`
`14:18.51`	`Kalroth`	`hahah`
`14:19.02`	`Kalroth`	`Ok, I'll change mine then!`
`14:19.30`	Funkeh`	`if only opd coulf rename people`
`14:19.34`	Funkeh`	`ops`
`14:19.52`	`Matrix110`	`its already fucking annoying that you cant change nicks in here when not authed...`
`14:19.59`	`*** part/#wowace Funkroth (n=kalroth@0x573f1066.hjnqu1.broadband.tele.dk)`
`14:20.07`	`Matrix110`	`gotta leave chans to change my nick and auth-.-`
`14:20.14`	Funkeh`	`hehe`
`14:20.20`	`*** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@0x573f1066.hjnqu1.broadband.tele.dk)`
`14:20.23`	`Kalroth`	`#?%#?%#%/?%`
`14:20.44`	`expiation`	`I think Kalroth found that out too`
`14:21.33`	`Matrix110`	`i changed my perform now but it wont work if i DC-.-`
`14:21.46`	`Matrix110`	`and then i have to leave all chans again to change my nick to chat here...`
`14:21.49`	`Matrix110`	`pure bullshit`
`14:22.02`	Funkeh`	`ghost yourself in a perform`
`14:22.12`	`Matrix110`	`I do`
`14:22.20`	`Matrix110`	`but you instantly rejoin chans when you dc`
`14:22.21`	Funkeh`	`then you got no problem`
`14:22.32`	`Matrix110`	`so i join them with your altnerative nick`
`14:22.33`	Funkeh`	`O_o`
`14:22.35`	`Matrix110`	`*my`
`14:23.02`	Funkeh`	`works fine with my client ;p`
`14:23.07`	`expiation`	`my alternate nick is linked to my main one`
`14:23.12`	`expiation`	`works good for me`
`14:23.17`	`stew_a`	`yeah just link your alt-nick to your normal one`
`14:23.20`	Funkeh`	`but im using a startup script not sure if that would affect it`
`14:23.45`	`Matrix110`	`let see if it work`
`14:23.47`	`Matrix110`	`*works`
`14:24.17`	`*** join/#wowace Matrix110 (n=bla@pD957D70F.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`14:24.25`	`Matrix110`	`*test`
`14:24.27`	`Matrix110`	`hmm`
`14:24.33`	`Matrix110`	`seems to work now`
`14:26.22`	`expiation`	`some of these addons need a wiki or a better description`
`14:26.48`	`Matrix110`	`well`
`14:27.00`	`Matrix110`	`most devs hate writing docs :P`
`14:27.11`	Funkeh`	`it's not about hating`
`14:27.13`	`expiation`	`id be happy with screenshots :D`
`14:27.16`	Funkeh`	`it's usually about time`
`14:28.15`	`[Ammo]`	`doscschmocs`
`14:28.36`	`*** join/#wowace chdst (n=dst@adsl-221-7-201.rmo.bellsouth.net)`
`14:30.19`	`*** join/#wowace hydrogen (n=hydrogen@amarok/developer/hydrogen)`
`14:33.37`	`expiation`	`lol @ babywigs`
`14:34.03`	`ckknight`	`what's babywigs?`
`14:34.17`	`expiation`	`boss warnings for low level 5 man instances`
`14:34.35`	`*** join/#wowace Chaud (n=chaudhar@75-136-135-060.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com)`
`14:36.35`	`*** join/#wowace DARKGuy (n=DARKGuy@201.211.45.36)`
`14:36.37`	`DARKGuy`	`mornin' ^^`
`14:36.54`	`Xinhuan`	`charon ping`
`14:37.02`	`Xinhuan`	`or antiarc`
`14:41.27`	`Zyndrome`	`http://www.flickr.com/photos/xlaire/22321922/ ... what the f-`
`14:41.48`	`Zyndrome`	`icecream in condom-like containers`
`14:41.53`	`Zyndrome`	`"egg icecream :D"`
`14:42.13`	`expiation`	`isn't foreverafk something blizz wouldn't want you to use`
`14:42.53`	`Zyndrome`	`babywigs? oh I gotta get that!`
`14:43.33`	`expiation`	`ya that icecream is strange`
`14:43.52`	`Lukian`	`Zyndrome, yeah it's awesome :D`
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`14:45.13`	`Zyndrome`	`only Deadmines so far .. need moar! :p`
`14:45.16`	`Lukian`	`Bruners, do you use with-externals?`
`14:46.12`	`CIA-42`	`03ammo * r74069 10SmoothQuest/ (6 files in 3 dirs):`
`14:46.12`	`CIA-42`	`SmoothQuest:`
`14:46.12`	`CIA-42`	`- Add some localization support`
`14:46.12`	`CIA-42`	`- Add Sink options via /sq or /smoothquest and the blizzard interface addon options`
`14:48.14`	`ckknight`	`Zyndrome: sure that's not ice cream mochi?`
`14:48.34`	`ckknight`	`cause that's a real thing I've had, it's ice cream with mochi wrapped around it`
`14:49.10`	`CIA-42`	`03profalbert * r74070 10Parrot/ (Code/CombatEvents.lua Data/CombatEvents.lua):`
`14:49.10`	`CIA-42`	`Parrot:`
`14:49.10`	`CIA-42`	`- Soulshard-gains work again`
`14:49.10`	`CIA-42`	`- removed sourceName-tag from Experience-event since it's not supported anymore`
`14:49.10`	`CIA-42`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:49.11`	`CIA-42`	`M Data/CombatEvents.lua`
`14:49.13`	`CIA-42`	`M Code/CombatEvents.lua`
`14:49.27`	`Zyndrome`	`shrugs`
`14:49.31`	`ckknight`	`those lines weren't ignored.`
`14:49.33`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`14:49.35`	`[Ammo]`	`those lines won't be ignored if you hit a space before that!~`
`14:49.51`	`ckknight`	`~seen hjalte`
`14:50.12`	`purl`	`hjalte <n=Hjalte@0x57317e35.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 35m 39s ago, saying: 'Sometimes finding the good addons is very hard, when you have close to no coding experience at all. I hate it when I have a choice of several addons doing essentially the same.'.`
`14:50.21`	`expiation`	`wow there is littlewigs too`
`14:50.30`	Funkeh`	`that's been there ages`
`14:50.35`	Funkeh`	`since lke, tbc launch`
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`14:50.48`	`[Ammo]`	`babywigs kicks littlewigs ass`
`14:51.37`	`Bruners`	`Lukian: no externals`
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`14:52.03`	`Lukian`	`Bruners, hmm strange, that issue was resolved for me with recent updates, 2.4.2 removed the use of those globals`
`14:52.05`	`kenlyric`	`does it make the screen shake when you aggro hogger?`
`14:52.21`	`[Ammo]`	`it says 'LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU'`
`14:52.27`	`[Ammo]`	`to warn for patrols in deadmines :p`
`14:52.32`	`Bruners`	`Lukian: i removed both parser 3 and 4 now, just sorrentimers that keeps asking for it now`
`14:52.38`	`[Ammo]`	`nothing more awesome than that`
`14:52.46`	`kenlyric`	`it's useful`
`14:52.49`	`kenlyric`	`I always forget`
`14:53.15`	`expiation`	`notsimplecombatlog is just a remake for new version?`
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`14:55.55`	`profalbert`	`is "local GetSpellInfo = GetSpellInfo" or something worth it?`
`14:56.00`	`mikma`	`lul`
`14:56.03`	`[Ammo]`	`depends on how often you call that sucker`
`14:56.23`	`profalbert`	`well, on every combatevent of the player that involves a spell`
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`14:57.00`	`charon`	`Xinhuan: pong`
`14:57.06`	`[Ammo]`	`it gives a very very very minor performance boost`
`14:57.14`	`[Ammo]`	`at the cost of 1 pointer worth of memory`
`14:57.37`	`ckknight`	`profalbert: I like to do it because it allows me to see what globals I'm using, lets me find bugs a bit easier (by doing luac -l -p *.lua\|grep GLOBAL)`
`14:57.53`	`expiation`	`what does ur smoothquest do ammo?`
`14:57.54`	`ckknight`	`that way, I only do a single global call, local _G = _G`
`14:58.10`	`[Ammo]`	`expiation: gradient coloring of the questtracker progress`
`14:58.18`	`expiation`	`cheers`
`14:58.19`	`[Ammo]`	`expiation: add sounds to completion of objectives and whole quests`
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`14:58.50`	`expiation`	`sounds worth a try`
`14:58.52`	`profalbert`	`ckknight: hmm makes sense`
`14:58.58`	`[Ammo]`	`its not completely done yet`
`14:59.04`	`[Ammo]`	`but it works for me`
`14:59.09`	`ckknight`	`profalbert: I don't really do it for the performance gain`
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`14:59.25`	`ckknight`	`profalbert: note that if I do want to just use a global outright, I'll access it as _G.SomeGlobal()`
`14:59.38`	`ckknight`	`which technically is faster`
`14:59.42`	`ckknight`	`but not by much`
`14:59.47`	`haste`	`and has -10+ readability`
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`14:59.47`	`Xinhuan`	`charon PMs`
`14:59.55`	`ckknight`	`it's all just to make things clearer, imho`
`15:00.11`	`ckknight`	`as to what it actually is, since there's no such thing as namespacing in that context`
`15:00.36`	`Snago`	`How is _G.SomeGlobal() faster than just SomeGlobal()?`
`15:00.51`	`cladhaire`	`its a local access, followed by a table access`
`15:00.52`	`haste`	`because _G is local in this case`
`15:01.05`	`cladhaire`	`versus a global access followed by a table access`
`15:01.48`	`Snago`	`But isn't GETGLOBAL equivalent to a table lookup in _G?`
`15:02.14`	`cladhaire`	`_G by default is global`
`15:02.19`	`cladhaire`	`so you have to look it up first`
`15:02.59`	`FinalX`	`hmz`
`15:03.16`	`Snago`	`No, you look up globals in _G. You don't have to lookup _G first to lookup a global.`
`15:04.27`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:04.28`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:04.28`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:04.30`	`CIA-42`	`03profalbert * r74071 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua:`
`15:04.30`	`CIA-42`	`Parrot:`
`15:04.30`	`CIA-42`	`- removed some redundant local variable definitions`
`15:04.35`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:04.36`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:04.36`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:04.41`	`expiation`	`is foreverafk gonna get people in trouble?`
`15:04.53`	`cladhaire`	`there is a difference, hence the different opcodes`
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`15:05.57`	`Snago`	`Yes, but isn't GETGLOBAL just a GETTABLE on _G?`
`15:06.36`	`cladhaire`	`there is a speed difference you're welcome to test for yourself.`
`15:06.53`	`ckknight`	`technically, accessing the local _G is slightly faster, but not significantly`
`15:06.59`	`ckknight`	`since it doesn't have to look up the fenv`
`15:08.27`	`RaydenUni`	`DnT is disbanding?`
`15:08.28`	`RaydenUni`	`woah`
`15:08.36`	`Zyndrome`	`so... I ran through Deadmines to test BabyWigs, I lol'd up until the mobs with the parrot pets .. when the parrots gain the attackspeed-buff, that god annoying Bloodrage sound goes off`
`15:08.40`	`Zyndrome`	`Bloodrage x 10`
`15:09.15`	`exor674`	`Zyndrome: that's not even in the mod :P`
`15:09.17`	`Snago`	`ckknight: aha, that makes sense. thanks`
`15:09.22`	`Zyndrome`	`exor674 , I know`
`15:09.34`	`Zyndrome`	`it's Blizzards ninjachange!`
`15:09.44`	`Zyndrome`	`"lets annoy players shall we?"`
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`15:10.07`	`Tularis`	`"Accelerated Christian Education"... huh?`
`15:12.32`	`[Ammo]`	`You will repent!`
`15:12.33`	`Punkie`	`It's the acronym for ACE`
`15:12.38`	`[Ammo]`	`cracks the whip`
`15:13.09`	`erzy`	`Can you show buff duration with pitbull (i.e. like buttons cool down)`
`15:13.36`	`Lukian`	`does bloodrage sound like a charge?`
`15:13.46`	`Xinhuan`	`yes RaydenUni`
`15:13.54`	`Kulaar`	`http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=Ace`
`15:13.56`	`Tularis`	`it sounds horrible`
`15:14.10`	`Tularis`	`Angiotensin Converting Enzyme is a lot better`
`15:15.33`	`Lukian`	`I think blizzard accidently implemented the wrong sounds for a bunch of procs/things? XD`
`15:15.41`	`Tularis`	`how about "Astonishingly Cruel Experiment"`
`15:15.42`	`Lukian`	`either that or someone at blizzard is retarded XD`
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`15:18.21`	`exor674`	`and of course, they forgot to fix VR`
`15:18.51`	`Kaaosa-`	`?`
`15:19.18`	`RaydenUni`	`hmm 5v5 team with a rating of 2430 and a smite priest`
`15:19.57`	`exor674`	`"Void Reaver's Arcane orbs now generate combat log entries." no they don't`
`15:20.11`	`Kaaosa-`	`Oh.`
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`15:21.25`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> tonumber("5D51", 16)`
`15:21.25`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 23889`
`15:21.46`	`cladhaire`	`psh`
`15:21.48`	`cladhaire`	`who uses base 16`
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`15:22.30`	`RaydenUni`	`333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333heh`
`15:22.43`	`RaydenUni`	`DnT had the world first on NIghtbane`
`15:22.48`	`RaydenUni`	`that seems rather trivial now`
`15:22.49`	`RaydenUni`	`woah`
`15:22.51`	`RaydenUni`	`stupid cat`
`15:22.55`	`RaydenUni`	`sorry about the 3's`
`15:23.15`	Funkeh`	`you type under your cat?`
`15:23.16`	`Kaaosa-`	`lol.`
`15:24.02`	`Balstor`	`the cat is the office manager imho`
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`15:26.09`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> tonumber("5D37", 16)`
`15:26.09`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 23863`
`15:27.01`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> tonumber("5E7B", 16)`
`15:27.02`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: 24187`
`15:29.05`	`expiation`	`so about foreverafk?`
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`15:35.17`	`kalahassi`	`ulic ?`
`15:40.22`	`kalahassi`	`antiarc , "Warning: AddOn Chatter attempted to call a protected function (LFGQuery()) which may require interaction."," got this several times today`
`15:40.39`	`kalahassi`	`especially during comabt`
`15:43.55`	`mort`	`htyhrt`
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`15:45.02`	`Fisker-`	`btw`
`15:45.04`	`Fisker-`	`we have confirmation`
`15:45.11`	`Fisker-`	`apple appeals to gays`
`15:45.14`	`ckknight`	`confirmation?`
`15:45.17`	`ckknight`	`oh yea, I knew that`
`15:45.21`	`Fisker-`	`:D`
`15:45.24`	`ckknight`	`http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/apple`
`15:45.37`	`mikma`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG1rQ9iXV5o`
`15:46.42`	`Fisker-`	`;_;`
`15:46.57`	`Fisker-`	`VS only have an XML->Schema generator, not XML->DTD`
`15:46.58`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`15:47.41`	`profalbert`	`Fisker-: I tend to use XMLspy for that`
`15:47.53`	`Fisker-`	`yeah saw that, but kinda overkill :P`
`15:48.01`	`profalbert`	`it is`
`15:48.20`	`profalbert`	`but I only need it ~once every 2 months`
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`16:00.52`	`Matrix110`	`[Ammo] fix BetterInbox!`
`16:01.28`	`Matrix110`	`i got some weird checkboxes in there now and when try to open a mail it says in chat "clicked 1" "clicked 2"`
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`16:10.49`	`CIA-42`	`03profalbert * r74072 10Parrot/ (Code/CombatEvents.lua Data/CombatEvents.lua):`
`16:10.49`	`CIA-42`	`Parrot:`
`16:10.49`	`CIA-42`	`- Honorgains show again (without name and rank)`
`16:10.49`	`CIA-42`	`- fixed possible nil-value in LootEvent`
`16:10.50`	`CIA-42`	`03xinhuan * r74073 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Shaman.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):`
`16:10.53`	`CIA-42`	`Threat-2.0:`
`16:10.55`	`CIA-42`	`- Remove threat handler for Lightning Capacitor. It deals full threat from the damage, not half.`
`16:10.57`	`CIA-42`	`- Cleanup half the Shaman module to apply Elemental Precision on all Nature/Fire/Frost spells rather than just specific shaman damage spells. This mainly affects The Lightning Capacitor proc and nature healing spells.`
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`16:15.09`	`Corey`	`Xinhuan?`
`16:15.16`	`Xinhuan`	`yes?`
`16:15.46`	`Corey`	`would foreverafk from the site get people in trouble?`
`16:15.58`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't know, but i'll suggest not using it`
`16:16.04`	`Xinhuan`	`zootfizzle knows about it`
`16:16.21`	`Xinhuan`	`and its considered an exploit of the lua code to go around staying on the server online`
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`16:16.30`	`Xinhuan`	`kinda grey area`
`16:16.33`	`Corey`	`yea`
`16:16.49`	`Xinhuan`	`if i know zoot enough, he'll probably have got it fixed this patch already`
`16:17.00`	`Xinhuan`	`by requiring a hardware event to call CancelLogout()`
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`16:24.55`	`expiation`	`wow my connection is horrible today`
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`16:39.31`	`Tularis`	`You'd think people are smart enough to know _something_ about computers...`
`16:39.34`	`Tularis`	`"if there isnt an AddOns folder in Interface, create one"`
`16:39.43`	`Tularis`	`response: "How the hell do i do that????"`
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`16:39.52`	`Tularis`	`:\|`
`16:39.59`	`Corey`	`my connection is horrible today :(`
`16:40.00`	`Allara`	`people like that have no business installing addons`
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`16:47.01`	`Vulcanus`	`lulz`
`16:50.42`	`CIA-42`	`03apoco * r74074 10RBM/Locales/Locales.lua: RBM: Fix locale nil error for non enUS clients.`
`16:51.46`	`CIA-42`	`03funkydude * r74075 10BasicChatMods/urlcopy.lua: BasicChatMods: URLCopy: Improve patterns`
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`16:57.56`	`CIA-42`	`03funkydude * r74076 10BasicChatMods/urlcopy.lua: BasicChatMods: remove an unused local`
`16:58.15`	`Aerr`	`hm`
`16:58.21`	`Aerr`	`having arkinventory level issues`
`17:00.39`	`Aerr`	`it keeps being put to a lower level like backround, but when i click on it it brings it to front. i just want to keep it in front. its like it uses the same level as some other addons`
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`17:02.08`	`lejordet`	`Good evening!`
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`17:02.43`	`lejordet`	`Does anyone know why the Ace3 "subaddons" aren't listed as <wowace:provides> in latest.xml?`
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`17:05.27`	`mikma`	Funkeh`: sweet
`17:06.02`	Funkeh`	`mikma, hmm?`
`17:06.19`	`Windcape`	`hey, I'm trying to make MyMedia load some textures, however it seems like the values of the file are totaly ignored`
`17:06.24`	`mikma`	Funkeh`: aren't you funkydude
`17:06.25`	`Windcape`	`any clue why that could be?`
`17:06.49`	`Tularis`	`your addon doesn't like you?`
`17:07.12`	Funkeh`	`mikma, yup`
`17:07.20`	`Windcape`	`well, more technical... it seems like the MyMedia.lua is completely ignored`
`17:07.32`	`Tularis`	`is it referenced in the toc?`
`17:07.56`	`Windcape`	`it is`
`17:08.01`	`Tularis`	`is sharedMedia actually loaded aswell?`
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`17:08.15`	`Vulcanus`	`can has netsplit`
`17:08.22`	`Windcape`	`the default populated textures are available, such as the "Moo" background`
`17:08.28`	Funkeh`	`mikma, so what we're you reffering to as sweet? ;p`
`17:08.59`	`Tularis`	`well, you could try sticking your custom definitions in the shared media files to see if they show up then, otherwise I'd wager there's just something wrong with your definitions :)`
`17:09.40`	`mikma`	Funkeh`: BasicChatMods
`17:09.56`	`Windcape`	`hmm, perhaps it's because the default variable population is missing`
`17:10.07`	`Windcape`	`I just noticed I do the call on SML: , and not SharedMedia:`
`17:10.53`	`Windcape`	`the v.2 version of SharedMedia (which I've been running for a while) had a bunch of lua variable scripting in the top of MyMedia as well, but that seems unnessary now?`
`17:11.12`	`Windcape`	`yep, that was it , gaah.. typical :p`
`17:11.39`	Funkeh`	`mikma, oh, thanks :)`
`17:12.04`	`expiation`	`his quest thing is pretty cool too`
`17:13.17`	`CIA-42`	`03Thaoky * r74077 10Altoholic/ (39 files in 2 dirs):`
`17:13.18`	`CIA-42`	`Altoholic: initial commit`
`17:13.18`	`CIA-42`	`- Provides various information about your alts`
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`17:16.53`	`mikma`	Funkeh`: also sweet for not acefying it ;)
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`17:20.03`	`ckknight`	Funkeh`: can you ace it, I know you can gain efficiency by doing so
`17:20.04`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`17:20.13`	`kergoth`	`chuckles`
`17:20.20`	`mikma`	`you can triple the files with it!`
`17:20.43`	`Tularis`	`Windcape: I personally just put up a link to lsm-3.0 at the top and use that, so something like:local lib = LibStub("LibSharedMedia-3.0");`
`17:20.44`	`Tularis`	`local western = lib.LOCALE_BIT_western;`
`17:20.46`	`Tularis`	`lib:Register('font', 'Aubrey', [[Interface\Addons\SharedMedia-2.0\MyMedia\AUBREY1__.TTF]], western);`
`17:20.49`	Funkeh`	`lol, it was ace (originally a rip of SCM) but I just re-did most of it, was only using acehook2 anyway`
`17:21.18`	Funkeh`	`SCM has since been redone also though`
`17:21.31`	`NeoTron`	`I think we should ace3 ace2`
`17:21.31`	`kergoth`	`anyone done any performance testing of GetItemCount?`
`17:21.47`	`NeoTron`	`since ace3 is better, it only makes sense to reimplement ace2 using ace3`
`17:21.52`	`CIA-42`	`03apoco * r74078 10RBM/Plugins.xml: RBM: Fix problem with trying to load TestSuite (nolonger used)`
`17:22.10`	`Windcape`	`NeoTron eeh... ain't ace3 a reimplement of ace2 in ace3? :p`
`17:23.00`	`NeoTron`	`Windcape: but ace3 isn't compatible to ace2 so just make ace2 use ace3 and we don't have to use ace2 anymore!`
`17:23.03`	`NeoTron`	`brilliant`
`17:23.15`	Funkeh`	`mikma, and it was BadBoy as it's perfect chat companion :P`
`17:23.26`	`Windcape`	`make me a Fubar that uses ace3, and I'm happy :p`
`17:23.35`	`Windcape`	`waiting for BT4 to be useable as well ;)`
`17:24.12`	`Windcape`	`btw. did the requirement for texture loading changed? I'm trying to load some textures from a UI pack that's some months old (half year or so), but the game won't load them`
`17:24.22`	`Windcape`	`checked the path , and the sizes are divideable with 32`
`17:24.50`	`expiation`	Funkeh` is it modular like prat?
`17:25.07`	`expiation`	`only thing i use in prat is timestamp and urlcopy`
`17:25.08`	`mikma`	Funkeh`: ..what?
`17:25.10`	`Windcape`	`prat is too modular :p`
`17:25.12`	`expiation`	`and i get all the xtra stuff with it`
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`17:25.37`	`expiation`	`i just wanna know i if i can shut off the rest of the stuff in his`
`17:26.58`	Funkeh`	`expiation, you could say it was modular, it's not 'real' modules, just separate files`
`17:27.07`	Funkeh`	`easy enough to edit`
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`17:27.13`	Funkeh`	`mikma, non-ace anti spam`
`17:27.44`	`Antiarc`	`What's with the trolls lately?`
`17:28.15`	`kergoth`	`I wonder, at what # of GetItemCount calls would it become more efficient to track the counts yourself`
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`17:30.12`	`mikma`	Funkeh`: does it kill all the tradechat spam?
`17:31.25`	Funkeh`	`mikma, yer`
`17:31.39`	Funkeh`	`-gold- spam`
`17:32.01`	`expiation`	`im gonna try ur statsblock too`
`17:32.04`	`ckknight`	`Windcape: I don't plan on porting FuBar to Ace3. I'm not fond of Ace3's config system and it would be too much effort for too little gain to port without good reason`
`17:32.09`	`stew_a`	`my addon's embeds.xml: http://ace.pastey.net/87920, if i install it with no other addons i get aceconfigdialog saying it cant find aceconsole, if i move aceconsole above aceconfig, my AddToBlizOptions calls throw errors, that function apparently being nil, could anyone help me figure out why please?`
`17:32.38`	`Tularis`	`ckknight: is it using ROCK now then? and if not, will you be porting it to ROCK ?`
`17:32.47`	`ckknight`	`use your indoor voice.`
`17:32.54`	`ckknight`	`FuBar 3.0 uses Rock`
`17:33.06`	`Tularis`	`no need to port it to anything else then :)`
`17:33.09`	`Matrix110`	`use Blizzard config!`
`17:33.10`	`expiation`	`the rock config menu drives me nuts`
`17:33.19`	`Tularis`	`how so ?`
`17:33.48`	`ckknight`	`Matrix110: but Blizzard's config is unwieldy`
`17:34.01`	`expiation`	`the whole transparency thing and coming up when i right click fubar`
`17:34.12`	`Windcape`	`ckknight I agree, that Ace3 configuration is horrible, but if so many other projects joins it it'll be pain :/`
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`17:34.29`	`vithos`	`i lold`
`17:34.36`	`ckknight`	`expiation: yea, I kinda want to fix that for FuBar`
`17:34.38`	`Windcape`	`surely , there must be some way of combining a Ace3 configuration and a FuBar config ?`
`17:34.43`	`CIA-42`	`03digmouse * r74079 10Chatter/Localization/zhCN.lua:`
`17:34.43`	`CIA-42`	`Chatter:`
`17:34.43`	`CIA-42`	`-zhCN update and tuned`
`17:34.46`	`ckknight`	`make it pop up a small dropdown that has a single "Config" button`
`17:35.04`	`ckknight`	`Windcape: well, if I were to implement the Ace3 config spec into LibRockConfig-1.0, it'd be doable`
`17:35.08`	`WillJitsu`	`could someone please look at this screenshot and tell me what addon is causing this black box to show in the middle of the screen that I can't get rid of? http://bluewonka.com/screen.jpg`
`17:35.28`	`ckknight`	`but that's hard, seeing as it'd require two separate modes, one which is Ace2/Rock (which is a superset of the Ace2 format) and one that is Ace3`
`17:35.45`	`Kolie`	`WillJitsu, disable addons one at a time until it goes away`
`17:36.01`	`kergoth`	`i like acegui-3.0 a lot better than rockconfig or waterfall, personally, from an ease of use standpoint. though rockconfig's ability to choose color by HS{V,L} instead of RGB is kick ass.`
`17:36.10`	`Windcape`	`I don't get really the idea of Ace3`
`17:36.19`	`kenlyric`	`i'd just settle for a fubar plugin to access the ace3 config.`
`17:36.23`	`WillJitsu`	`Kolie: yeah I was about to do that, just thought maybe someone could recognize it. I've never seen it before and the only thing I've done recently is update addons through wowaceupdater`
`17:36.26`	`kenlyric`	`it's 1 more than Ace2`
`17:36.27`	`Windcape`	`so far all ace3 addons I used had a worse gui, and took WAY longer time to configure/use`
`17:36.42`	`kergoth`	`Windcape: compared to what?`
`17:36.55`	`Windcape`	`example: kgpanels I'm forced to use the ace3 menu system , which is horrible, but on eepanels I can right click directly on my panel`
`17:37.00`	`Windcape`	`and configure it directly there`
`17:37.25`	`Windcape`	`I think it's a minority who use the big configuraiton screens, the more prefer the quick right click menu's`
`17:38.26`	`Antiarc`	`For what it's worth, Ace3 can support dropdowns. The lib just isn't written yet, mostly because I'm stupid busy ;)`
`17:38.29`	`kergoth`	`one doesnt exclude the other`
`17:38.31`	`Antiarc`	`(I like them too)`
`17:38.43`	`Windcape`	`ahh, ok :p makes sense then`
`17:38.44`	`kergoth`	`besides, you dont need to use a config/options table to make a small dropdown for quick changes, either`
`17:38.56`	`kergoth`	`just most developers are lazy`
`17:38.58`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`17:39.08`	`Windcape`	`well, so far it looked like it was left out on purpose`
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`17:39.39`	`CIA-42`	`03trasher * r74080 10Proximo/locals/localization-frFR.lua:`
`17:39.39`	`CIA-42`	`Proximo:`
`17:39.39`	`CIA-42`	`- frFR update`
`17:39.40`	`kergoth`	`people dont want 12 level deep dropdowns for all config, but dropdowns have their place, especially for -actions- rather than -options-, or for commonly changed settings`
`17:40.19`	`stew_a`	`could someone look at my embeds.xml ^^ and help me figure this out please?`
`17:40.25`	`Windcape`	`well, such as right clicking on a panel, and picking a background texture I found alot quicker, than going though a 5 submenu's in a Ace3 config screen`
`17:40.35`	`NeoTron`	`speaking of ace3 and fubar - anyone knows why the ace3-usable fubar plugin doesn't work with the ace2 fubar (vs the rock one)?`
`17:40.37`	`Windcape`	`special because submenu's in Ace3 is horrible`
`17:40.58`	`kergoth`	`Windcape: using tabs, or tree?`
`17:41.00`	`Tularis`	`kergoth: I do want 10 level deep dropdowns; I loved it back when pitbull had huge dropdowns, especially compared to the bulky annoying screen thing it has now`
`17:41.01`	`Windcape`	`need to press the little "+" to get in a submenu , it's really ackward and annoying`
`17:41.19`	`kergoth`	`Tularis: you like getting 4 levels deep and accidentally moving the mouse away, so having to start over? not me, thanks`
`17:41.21`	`Stanzilla`	`doubleclick works, too`
`17:41.29`	`vithos`	`it's not that annoying.`
`17:41.47`	`Tularis`	`kergoth: yes; it doesn't happen to me much though`
`17:41.49`	`Windcape`	`pitbull's configuration is rather good, imo.`
`17:41.56`	`kergoth`	`i want an addon to make all the subcategories automatically expanded in the interface options menu when it opens`
`17:41.58`	`kergoth`	`personally`
`17:41.59`	`vithos`	`i much prefer kgpanels config to eepanels`
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`17:42.01`	`Antiarc`	`http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn250/paawkx/ass-young-cute-0611.jpg`
`17:42.02`	`kergoth`	`i think itd help matters a bit`
`17:42.10`	`Windcape`	`it's not intuiative, but it's also got advanced users`
`17:42.17`	`lejordet`	`when running no-ext, where does the addon UTF8 (which is listed in some dependencies) come from?`
`17:42.29`	`Windcape`	`vithos why? I can't see ANY advantages. Kgpanels only offered me a horror of configuration`
`17:42.38`	`expiation`	Funkeh` would be cool to have mail/bugsack/timer for it
`17:42.39`	`Windcape`	`it's SO much slower and painfull than eepanels`
`17:42.45`	`vithos`	`Windcape: because you don't have to renavigate through the menu tree over, and over, and over`
`17:42.48`	`Tularis`	`windcape: I was comparing the old pitbull config to the new one. Compared to other addons, I agree the pitbull config currently is still pretty damned good`
`17:42.58`	`NeoTron`	`Antiarc: win`
`17:43.07`	`Windcape`	`vithos but I have to spend 10 min opening the menu tree each time I want to configure something`
`17:43.15`	`Tularis`	`Kgpanels has a couple of nice options which can't be done in dropdowns though, like a preview of your art (LOVE that!!)`
`17:43.27`	`vithos`	`Windcape: then i'm sorry, but there must be something wrong with you`
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`17:44.05`	`NeoTron`	`man we get a full t6 resto shaman recruit`
`17:44.07`	`NeoTron`	`all is good`
`17:44.08`	`Windcape`	`basicly, I don't like clicking small "+" signs to get into a submenu`
`17:44.09`	`Windcape`	`:p`
`17:44.26`	`NeoTron`	`then the next day he gets his work schedule rearranged and can't raid because he now works when we raid :-/`
`17:44.33`	`vithos`	`then doubleclick instead`
`17:44.40`	`Windcape`	`and even my screen is big, I still have to scroll to see all the configurations`
`17:44.44`	`mikma`	Funkeh`: http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/3M/ <- Quiet_NPC deaced :D
`17:44.48`	`Windcape`	`vithos oh.. neat trick`
`17:44.49`	`Windcape`	`:p`
`17:45.03`	`vithos`	`someone else told you that trick a few minutes ago :P`
`17:45.25`	`vithos`	`i don't like it, personally. clicking the [+] is easy`
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`17:45.57`	`CIA-42`	`03Thaoky * r74081 10Altoholic/:`
`17:45.57`	`CIA-42`	`Altoholic:`
`17:45.57`	`CIA-42`	`- Initial release on SVN`
`17:45.59`	`Windcape`	`btw. try expand the kgpanels configuration menu horisontally, looks funny :p`
`17:46.14`	Funkeh`	`mikma, cool, not quite what badboy is about though ;p`
`17:46.19`	`vithos`	`but the main point is, you get to that page, and then you stay there`
`17:46.40`	`Windcape`	`yes, but it means I actually have to name my panels now :(`
`17:47.06`	`Antiarc`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOpV6-U7jq0`
`17:47.07`	`expiation`	Funkeh` if ur still lookin for stuff to make for it that is ;d
`17:47.12`	`mikma`	Funkeh`: almost same meaning, block messages you don't want to see meh
`17:47.54`	`mikma`	`but, i want to do that in a better way :I`
`17:48.11`	`Dashkal`	`Antiarc: Have you released LibBars yet?`
`17:48.17`	`Antiarc`	`Not on trunk`
`17:48.27`	`Antiarc`	`It's close, I think, but I haven't had dev time lately`
`17:48.33`	`Dashkal`	`kk`
`17:48.52`	`Dashkal`	`I wanted to make myself up a quick Chronometer replacement tonight. I'll avoid releasing on trunk until you do.`
`17:49.19`	`Dashkal`	`Not having my hunter's mark disappear is driving me nuts :(`
`17:49.35`	`NeoTron`	`Dashkal: a guy at work is making a dotimer replacement`
`17:50.24`	`Dashkal`	`I'll have to have a look at that. What i plan tonight will really be a very thin bridge between the combat log and LibBars that knows how to respond to traps firing. It's pretty much just a drop-in replacement for how I use chronometer and nothing else.`
`17:50.33`	`CIA-42`	`03ulic * r74082 10LittleWigs/MagistersTerrace/ (Kael'thasSunstrider.lua PriestessDelrissa.lua): LittleWigs: MgT - Updated spellIds for Delrissa & Kael'thas`
`17:50.48`	Funkeh`	`mikma, badboy reports not just blocks ;p`
`17:50.52`	`NeoTron`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/MoarDots/Logic1.0/`
`17:50.54`	Funkeh`	`expiation, some time :)`
`17:51.01`	`Dashkal`	`danke`
`17:51.07`	`NeoTron`	`it uses LibBars and I haven't tested it`
`17:51.11`	`NivFreak`	`D&T is dead eh?`
`17:51.16`	`NeoTron`	`and it's currently not very configurable friom what I heard`
`17:51.25`	`Chompers`	`Antiarc: my guild thanks you for the picture`
`17:51.30`	`Antiarc`	`Heheh`
`17:51.34`	`Windcape`	`grr.. atleast if kgpanels had a option to remove a panel on right-click`
`17:51.38`	`Windcape`	`or open the config menu`
`17:51.41`	`Windcape`	`that would be awesomeness`
`17:51.44`	`ulic`	`NivFreak: I head their back taxes finally caught upt to them.`
`17:51.49`	`ulic`	`*heard`
`17:51.50`	`NivFreak`	`lawl`
`17:52.01`	`Cheads`	`in Chatter, is tab completion for names only supposed to work in ie. guild chat .. and not in /s and custom channels?`
`17:52.10`	`expiation`	Funkeh` so i just delete the .lua for the 'modules' i dont want?
`17:52.36`	Funkeh`	`expiation, read the disable modules text file :)`
`17:54.02`	`expiation`	`ahh`
`17:54.05`	`expiation`	`fair enough eh`
`17:55.54`	`Dashkal`	`NeoTron: Heh, the thing I'm building tonight will not have anything in the way of config aside from remembering where its anchor lives :p`
`17:57.16`	`expiation`	`whats it gonna do`
`17:59.09`	`Dashkal`	`erm, just a thought: Did they get around to fixing the bug where death events wern't showing?`
`17:59.22`	`Seerah`	`said so in the changelog`
`17:59.40`	`Dashkal`	`Oh good.`
`18:00.34`	`Antiarc`	`Cheads: It works on names seen in the channel you're typing in`
`18:02.19`	`Bruners`	`Antiarc: would love it if it could grab names from the guild thats offline`
`18:02.59`	`Cheads`	`Antiarc: so if a guild member is standing right in front of me and I want to talk to him in /s .. then it's not supposed to work?`
`18:03.22`	`Antiarc`	`I don't suppose it would in that case`
`18:03.28`	`Cheads`	`ok`
`18:03.31`	`Antiarc`	`I may just change it because it feels off to so many people`
`18:03.38`	`Antiarc`	`(I like IRC-style tab complete, myself :P)`
`18:03.52`	`Cheads`	`well it is your addon afterall =)`
`18:04.01`	`vithos`	`anyone know of something like StatBlocks but that can color fps/latency based on the current values? i.e. red for bad, green for good`
`18:04.10`	`stew_a`	`http://ace.pastey.net/87921 this is really driving me nuts, 'attempt to call method 'AddToBlizOptions' a nil value, line 3, could someone please help me out with this?`
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`18:05.20`	`*** part/#wowace Windcape (n=thedeath@ip-29-127.bnaa.dk)`
`18:07.13`	`NeoTron`	`Dashkal: then this one might do the trick`
`18:07.19`	Funkeh`	`stew_a, It's 2 l's`
`18:07.26`	`NeoTron`	`Dashkal: it's a modern, in that it uses the combat log events, dot timer`
`18:07.34`	`Dashkal`	`oh?`
`18:07.39`	`Dashkal`	`sweet`
`18:07.47`	`NeoTron`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/MoarDots/Logic1.0/ <-- that one`
`18:07.57`	`NeoTron`	`I haven't yet tested it but it sounds very much like your plan`
`18:08.03`	`NeoTron`	`it used LibBars and everything`
`18:08.19`	Funkeh`	`hmm or not`
`18:08.27`	`Dashkal`	`Chronometer was perfect for what I wanted out of a dot timer. On my druid I didn't even notice that things wern't vanishing since my debuffs are so short (30s max). But on the hunter with the 2 minute mark it got annoying :p`
`18:08.39`	`*** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl195-38-115-253.pool.tvnet.hu)`
`18:08.45`	`stew_a`	Funkeh`, 2l's where?
`18:08.55`	Funkeh`	`your 2nd arg needs to be your option table`
`18:09.13`	`*** join/#wowace Gotai (n=thewill@ip503d59c0.speed.planet.nl)`
`18:09.15`	Funkeh`	`no`
`18:09.20`	Funkeh`	`looking at the wrong line`
`18:09.53`	`Dashkal`	`If someone else has done it for me, I'll quite happily look :p Doing it myself means dealing with the 1001 edge cases (traps fire, mark is one target at a time, etc)`
`18:10.37`	`Dashkal`	`Meaning lots and lots of spell attribute tables to tell me those little things the spell info can't`
`18:10.56`	`NeoTron`	`it'd likely need help`
`18:11.05`	`NeoTron`	`since it's written by a lock`
`18:11.06`	`NeoTron`	`:P`
`18:11.09`	`Dashkal`	`heh`
`18:11.24`	`Dashkal`	`ooo, totems would be "fun" too since they can be recalled`
`18:11.24`	Funkeh`	`stew_a, LibStub("AceConfigRegistry-3.0"):RegisterOptionsTable`
`18:11.38`	`NeoTron`	`well`
`18:11.43`	`NeoTron`	`totem is not a debuff`
`18:11.46`	`NeoTron`	`so not sure if that counts`
`18:11.58`	`NeoTron`	`plus blizz has an api for totems now`
`18:12.22`	`Dashkal`	`I don't play a shaman so I wouldn't worry about it, but if I were to actually release the thing I'd want it supported (since if I played a shammy I'd want a totem timer)`
`18:12.54`	`Dashkal`	`The thing could quickly get out of hand :p`
`18:13.02`	`Dashkal`	`And I already have a large-scale project`
`18:13.53`	`stew_a`	Funkeh`: no effect :S
`18:14.35`	Funkeh`	`stew_a, I'm assuming you have that in your oninit`
`18:14.36`	`Dashkal`	`Damnit, the options dialog is writing itself in my head. Bad bad bad I'm supposed to be designing real work stuff atm :p`
`18:14.49`	`stew_a`	Funkeh`, i do
`18:17.05`	`NeoTron`	`Dashkal: I think totem timers are quite well covered`
`18:17.37`	`Dashkal`	`But wouldn't it be nice to have it all in the same place on the same anchor with all the other short-term abilities :p`
`18:19.41`	`Dashkal`	`For the record, I'm not planning on actually writing this thing to this degree. I'll have a look at the one you mentioned and if it doesn't fill my need I'll just hack together my own quick one and leave it at that.`
`18:19.44`	`NeoTron`	`it depends`
`18:20.09`	`Balstor`	`~lua string.gsub("Rank 2", "Rank ", "")`
`18:20.13`	`NeoTron`	`I think his is an early stage of development`
`18:20.28`	`NeoTron`	`lua> print("do it like this!")`
`18:20.28`	`lua_bot`	`NeoTron: do it like this!`
`18:20.37`	`Balstor`	`ahhh`
`18:20.45`	`Dashkal`	`mmm, then I'll prolly hack mine together tonight and keep an eye on it. I just want my damn hunter's marks to disappear when I either target someone else or kill my target :p`
`18:20.54`	`Dashkal`	`erm, mark someone else`
`18:21.08`	`NeoTron`	`so it should work`
`18:21.22`	`Balstor`	`lua> string.gsub("TOPLEFT", "TOP", "")`
`18:21.23`	`lua_bot`	`Balstor: LEFT, 1`
`18:21.29`	`NeoTron`	`since he listens to SPELL_AURA_REMOVED etc`
`18:21.39`	`Balstor`	`lua> string.gsub("BOTTOMLEFT", "TOP", "")`
`18:21.40`	`lua_bot`	`Balstor: BOTTOMLEFT, 0`
`18:22.30`	`kergoth`	`Dashkal: i use RBM's debuff/buff module fo rmy timers, personally, but it may be heavier than what you're looking for`
`18:22.55`	`Balstor`	`lua> string.gsub("BOTTOMLEFT", "LEFT", "")`
`18:22.56`	`lua_bot`	`Balstor: BOTTOM, 1`
`18:22.58`	`Dashkal`	`I'll have a peek. I could also get out of the rut I built myself and learn to use Quartz properly`
`18:23.26`	`Dashkal`	`RBM and Quartz are both too heavy for my specific use case, but maybe I should rethink the use case and not the mod :p`
`18:24.07`	`*** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn)`
`18:24.30`	`Kaaosa-`	`I couldn't figure out RBM`
`18:24.39`	`Kaaosa-`	`But I only tried to figure it out for about 2 minutes.`
`18:25.29`	`*** join/#wowace Matrix110 (n=bla@pD957D70F.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`18:26.32`	`kergoth`	`quartz is pretty light, feature wise, really, in its buff/debuff support. or does it show too much information?`
`18:26.41`	`kergoth`	`you could always try the 2.4 sorren's timers, or spellreminder`
`18:31.22`	`Burgermeal`	`what is the best method of creating a fading frame? frame.SetAlpha(time)?`
`18:32.22`	`kergoth`	`setalpha in an onupdate during the fade period. or you could use UIFrameFadeIn/UIFrameFadeOut or whatever they are, the blizzard api functions`
`18:33.53`	`Tularis`	`Burgermeal: frame:SetAlpha(time) won't work. It's frame:SetAlpha(alpha), and WoW can't distinguish between time and alpha since they're both numbers (how should it know what you meant??). Use Kergoth's method`
`18:36.44`	`Tularis`	`ugh, sometimes I hate playing on EU servers... some people (read: most) just don't know english >.<`
`18:36.53`	`Tularis`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4095029913&sid=1 << hell to read`
`18:37.23`	`Gotai`	`I just choose to ignore threads like that ;)`
`18:37.31`	`*** join/#wowace dJe781 (n=dje781@ves78-1-89-85-60-113.dsl.club-internet.fr)`
`18:37.31`	`Gotai`	`They hurt my eyes`
`18:40.29`	`Tularis`	`on our guild forums a friend of mine had a great solution to such things. After each post which looked like this, she replied with "Access to Grammar Police: Denied"`
`18:40.39`	`Tularis`	`only problem was; the forum got swamped with those replies -.-`
`18:40.49`	`DARKGuy`	`haha`
`18:41.06`	`DARKGuy`	`Time to call the spam comittee`
`18:44.24`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Someone needs to respond to that thread with a link to an SC or WC3 replay.`
`18:44.55`	`Tularis`	`give me a link and I will :D`
`18:47.31`	`vhaarr`	`People should be forced to pass an aptitude test for written english before being allowed entry to the forums.`
`18:47.43`	`Tularis`	`and to the game too please`
`18:48.27`	`Tularis`	`how is this for bad inglash:`
`18:48.30`	`Tularis`	`I dodnt com on raids becouse i was gearing up after u acepted me to be able 2 do SSC & TK got fout t4 from than and need 3 more badges to change ring and i manage to get blessings deck to change cor of akhelos in one weak. I rly try-ed to imp my stats to help guild and not to be parasite. If i did something wrong sozz`
`18:48.47`	`*** part/#wowace chiper_ (n=chiper@ip72-197-215-172.sd.sd.cox.net)`
`18:49.15`	`vhaarr`	`try-ed`
`18:49.18`	`vhaarr`	`that's brilliant`
`18:49.56`	`Tularis`	`"I rly try-ed to help guild and not be parasite!"`
`18:50.26`	`vhaarr`	`that paragraph has so many mistakes it would make my english professor cry`
`18:50.30`	`vhaarr`	`I'm norwegian, Tularis`
`18:50.45`	`*** join/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@80-123-31-223.adsl.highway.telekom.at)`
`18:50.57`	`Tularis`	`norwegians generally have better english than most players I see :)`
`18:51.27`	`*** join/#wowace chiper (n=chiper@ip72-197-215-172.sd.sd.cox.net)`
`18:51.27`	`vhaarr`	`yeah we are pretty great`
`18:51.48`	`Tularis`	`worst ones are Romanians on my server, they either don't say _anything_ because they just don't understand english AT ALL (I often wonder how they can play) or answer in such garbled english that I have not a clue what they mean`
`18:52.11`	`Tularis`	`note: there are always exceptions though`
`18:52.47`	`vhaarr`	`of course, I was guilded with a dyslexic scotsman`
`18:52.55`	`Tularis`	`ouch`
`18:53.37`	`vhaarr`	`it was fun seeing him talk to people in general chat, and you couldn't tell he was dyslexic`
`18:53.47`	`vhaarr`	`because all the other retards typing didn't know english from crow talk`
`18:56.13`	`Tularis`	`I remember this guy in high school, almost 10 years ago. We had to write some kind of story (I think) and hand it in to our English professor. This guy had learned all his english from hear-say and internet. So it all looked like "and den dis gaj like dajd, I ROFLD!" :P`
`18:56.24`	`Tularis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:56.35`	`DARKGuy`	`hahahaahhahaha`
`18:56.38`	`chiper`	`the chinese farmers are always fun on my realm. they can't speak english, so they just communicate entirely through emotes`
`18:56.52`	`Tularis`	`hahahaha`
`18:57.04`	`DARKGuy`	`that reminds me of diablo II, they use "+++++++++++++++" for saying "party" which means "invite me" in WoW terms :P`
`18:57.27`	`DARKGuy`	`<.<`
`18:57.41`	`Tularis`	`inv!! INV!!! OMG INV!!!`
`18:57.47`	`DARKGuy`	`XD`
`18:58.01`	`Tularis`	`OMG NOOB! OMG!!! INV!!!`
`18:58.08`	`Tularis`	`!!!1!111one!!`
`18:58.12`	`DARKGuy`	`yeah, me and my friends joined a game where there were a lot of chinese guys and were very, very baffled`
`18:58.34`	`DARKGuy`	`I hate when people write english like they speak it`
`18:58.47`	`DARKGuy`	`is glad he learnt english by himself :P`
`18:59.13`	`Vulcanus`	`English*`
`18:59.15`	`Vulcanus`	`;p`
`18:59.22`	`DARKGuy`	`d'oh`
`18:59.30`	`DARKGuy`	`sorry :P`
`18:59.53`	`Tularis`	`lol`
`19:01.48`	`DARKGuy`	`I find it funny and sad at the same time. My country's native language is Spanish, and you know, people sometimes likes to learn English and such. There's those type of guys who can't write a sentence without grammar errors for saving their butts, but they can perfectly yell "F*CK YOU" and write it correctly >_>;`
`19:02.17`	`vhaarr`	`and "Coca Cola"? :P`
`19:02.32`	`DARKGuy`	`Yeah`
`19:02.35`	`DARKGuy`	`and Nid for espid`
`19:02.59`	`Tularis`	`xD`
`19:03.26`	`DARKGuy`	`and.... fotochop (photoshop, wtf!!)`
`19:03.35`	`DARKGuy`	`mesenyer`
`19:03.36`	`Vulcanus`	`people likes?`
`19:03.37`	`Aerr`	`SAME THING!`
`19:03.39`	`Aerr`	`srsly`
`19:03.43`	`DARKGuy`	`yarly`
`19:04.01`	`Aerr`	`how you been darkguy`
`19:04.28`	`DARKGuy`	`Vulcanus: yeah, it's general, mostly everyone knows a word or two in English, but they can't speak or even write Spanish correctly -.-`
`19:04.29`	`charon`	`my guild has a few people who are adopting "use" as a german verb... "du musst die trÃ¤ne usen" and such. i'm all for untranslated (i.e. english) techspeak but this goes too far.`
`19:04.29`	`vhaarr`	`Vulcanus: give it a rest, you didn't even spot the other problems with what he wrote`
`19:04.34`	`Kolie`	`lol fotochop`
`19:04.35`	`DARKGuy`	`quite good Aerr :) you?`
`19:04.54`	`Aerr`	`fine myself. finally getting around to putting DBM into fubar`
`19:05.12`	`DARKGuy`	`sounds hard :P`
`19:05.14`	`vhaarr`	`bigwigs is there already`
`19:05.18`	`DARKGuy`	`I've never tinkered with fubar anyways :o`
`19:05.20`	`Vulcanus`	`I just like nitpicking XD`
`19:05.30`	`DARKGuy`	`xD`
`19:05.36`	`DARKGuy`	`and... hacker = jaquer`
`19:05.37`	`Aerr`	`i like it`
`19:05.37`	`Aerr`	`vhaarr, i do not like bigwigs myself.`
`19:05.43`	`vhaarr`	`and why is that?`
`19:05.52`	`Aerr`	`just never did.`
`19:05.55`	`Aerr`	`DBM does me fine`
`19:05.58`	`vhaarr`	`how constructive`
`19:06.07`	`Aerr`	`plus i dont want to redo all my stuff for custom timers`
`19:06.30`	`vhaarr`	`yeah that must be like 2 minutes of work, at least`
`19:06.37`	`Aerr`	`hey, im lazy.`
`19:06.40`	`expiation`	`is bigwigs better than dbm?`
`19:06.50`	`Kolie`	`yes,`
`19:06.50`	Funkeh`	`by miles`
`19:07.05`	`expiation`	`wonder if my guild would notice im using it instead lol`
`19:07.11`	`vhaarr`	`they would not`
`19:07.21`	`Kolie`	`they would say "why did you stop sucking"`
`19:07.24`	`vhaarr`	`expiation: get DBMFTLBBQ as well from wowace`
`19:07.32`	`expiation`	`ahh`
`19:07.37`	Funkeh`	`most guilds won't care which you use`
`19:07.41`	Funkeh`	`as long as you're using one`
`19:07.42`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`19:07.51`	`expiation`	`awesome`
`19:07.51`	`vhaarr`	`but if they care, just ignore them and get DBMFTLBBQ`
`19:08.00`	`expiation`	`yea they care, i donno why`
`19:08.08`	`vhaarr`	`because they're idiots`
`19:08.20`	`DARKGuy`	`I say, use the addns that suit you better`
`19:08.23`	`DARKGuy`	`*addons`
`19:08.25`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`19:08.31`	`vhaarr`	`but DBM doesn't suit anyone better`
`19:08.34`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`19:08.35`	`DARKGuy`	`xD`
`19:08.37`	`expiation`	`lol`
`19:08.55`	`expiation`	`my old guild pre-bc used bigwigs`
`19:09.02`	Funkeh`	`just came back from a walk down the beach with the dog`
`19:09.05`	`expiation`	`but then it seems like everyone went to dbm`
`19:09.06`	Funkeh`	`that wind was fucking cold`
`19:09.16`	`Cheads`	`!rating 1320`
`19:09.17`	`Xinhuan`	`1320 rating gives 304(5s), 267(3s) and 231(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
`19:09.21`	Funkeh`	`so typical to have great weather all week then shit at the weekend`
`19:09.26`	`hydrogen`	`!rating 3000000000000000000000000000000`
`19:09.27`	`Xinhuan`	`3000000000000000000000000000000 rating gives 0(5s), 0(3s) and 0(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)`
`19:09.31`	`hydrogen`	`Oo`
`19:09.33`	`vithos`	`that reminds me, i was going to try that RBM_BigWigs thing`
`19:09.34`	`DARKGuy`	`o.O`
`19:09.37`	`hydrogen`	`omgbug`
`19:09.51`	`vhaarr`	`vithos: it's in the main RBM tree now, it's not a separate plugin`
`19:09.51`	Funkeh`	`vithos, I think it's built into rbm now`
`19:10.01`	*** join/#wowace `Zypher (n=zypher@adsl-69-109-115-119.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
`19:10.13`	`vithos`	`ah nice, you're right`
`19:10.27`	`DARKGuy`	`hm, is there any way to know how many people is using an addon?`
`19:10.45`	`vhaarr`	`no`
`19:10.48`	Funkeh`	`use the respective addons version check?`
`19:11.17`	`DARKGuy`	`that works but it isn't global :P`
`19:11.24`	`DARKGuy`	`it's ok, I wanted to see how popular I was :(`
`19:11.25`	`vhaarr`	`DARKGuy: you'll have to rephrase your question, are you tlaking about in guild, group, global or worldwide?`
`19:11.30`	`vhaarr`	`talking*`
`19:11.39`	`DARKGuy`	`vhaarr: global or worldwide :P`
`19:11.51`	`vhaarr`	`wowace.com has download numbers for each addon, but I don't remember where those stats are`
`19:12.12`	`hydrogen`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:12.36`	`vhaarr`	`global is impossible for reasonable addons`
`19:13.27`	`DARKGuy`	`hydrogen: oh, clever, but under WoW it can't do that =p`
`19:13.33`	`vithos`	`well that was painless. and now my bigwigs bars are sorted the way i like :)`
`19:13.36`	`DARKGuy`	`not that I know anyways o,o`
`19:13.46`	`DARKGuy`	`vhaarr: that would work, remember, remember!!!!`
`19:14.00`	`DARKGuy`	`pokes repeatedly with a wooden stick`
`19:14.03`	`vhaarr`	`remember what?`
`19:14.18`	`DARKGuy`	`where can I see the download numbers of my addons :P`
`19:14.23`	`vhaarr`	`no :P`
`19:14.28`	`DARKGuy`	`:(`
`19:14.31`	`vhaarr`	`perhaps someone else knows`
`19:14.34`	`vhaarr`	`goes to watch Monk`
`19:14.35`	`Xuerian`	`Egotistical bugger :p`
`19:14.36`	`vithos`	`are there any plans to discontinue bigwigs for RBM once it's mature, or are they going to coexist?`
`19:14.43`	`DARKGuy`	`haha`
`19:14.46`	`vhaarr`	`vithos: what are you nuts`
`19:14.47`	`NeoTron`	`vithos: funney`
`19:14.54`	`vhaarr`	`no, there's no plans for that`
`19:15.04`	`NeoTron`	`different addons by different authors`
`19:15.13`	`vhaarr`	`NeoTron: actually`
`19:15.15`	`vhaarr`	`that's not quite true`
`19:15.23`	`vhaarr`	`RBM was a TOTAL rip of BigWigs in the beginning`
`19:15.27`	`vhaarr`	`100% copy`
`19:15.39`	`vhaarr`	`it has evolved now though, so it's not as apparent any more`
`19:15.49`	`*** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com)`
`19:15.50`	`vhaarr`	`but if you look through both sources, you can still see it easily`
`19:15.58`	`vithos`	`i didn't mean to imply that it should be, i was just curious if efforts were going to be combined`
`19:16.08`	Funkeh`	`BigWigs will always get ripped because I update it too fast ;p it's annoying but it's not preventable`
`19:16.15`	`kergoth`	`i like its buff/debuff stuff, but i'm curious to see how necb will turn out, the rewrite`
`19:16.19`	`vhaarr`	`the only effort I'm going to put in is to get Apoco to STOP developing bossmods for RBM`
`19:16.33`	`*** join/#wowace gix (i=gix@e180056094.adsl.alicedsl.de)`
`19:16.57`	`NeoTron`	`vhaarr: curious`
`19:17.09`	`vithos`	`that'd probably be for the better, yeah. but does bigwigs api have everything that rbm does, like "count" bars?`
`19:17.24`	`vhaarr`	`"but"?`
`19:17.25`	Funkeh`	`hmm?`
`19:17.28`	`vhaarr`	`I'll kick your ass soon`
`19:17.34`	`NeoTron`	`RBM = kitchen sink, BigWigs => high end professional knife.. or something`
`19:17.34`	`expiation`	`so what other mods are must have ;d`
`19:17.37`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`what are count bars?`
`19:17.56`	`vithos`	`where the bar isn't time based`
`19:17.56`	Funkeh`	`Id like to know too`
`19:18.06`	`NeoTron`	`RBM just happens to have bossmods mixed in with the other stuff atm it seems`
`19:18.08`	`vithos`	`i don't know, i guess it's nto really that useful`
`19:18.13`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: BigWigs_NefCounter, if you ever used it
`19:18.16`	`vhaarr`	`vithos: no it isn't`
`19:18.18`	Funkeh`	`theres an example of that in BigWigs_nefCounter`
`19:18.22`	`vhaarr`	`if it was useful, we would already have it`
`19:18.23`	`vhaarr`	`see?`
`19:18.25`	`vhaarr`	`how that works?`
`19:18.25`	`vithos`	`ah`
`19:18.25`	Funkeh`	`gah I fail`
`19:18.28`	`kergoth`	`ZealotOnAStick: its a bar that doesnt change its value automatically, its fixed, set by current vs max value`
`19:18.31`	`vhaarr`	`because we're not idiots?`
`19:18.47`	Funkeh`	`vhaarr, easy now :P`
`19:18.59`	`vhaarr`	`I'll be easy once I've started on the beer`
`19:19.03`	`vhaarr`	`but then I won't be here`
`19:19.08`	Funkeh`	`mm beer`
`19:19.33`	`vithos`	`..i'm not trying to say you are. i'm just curious if RBM is doing anything in the bossmods that wouldn't be 1:1 replaced by the RBM_BigWigs thing. i'm asking because i don't know >.<`
`19:19.37`	`vithos`	`but you've answered, so thanks`
`19:19.37`	`NeoTron`	`need to tweak my BigWigs Kalecgos timer addon`
`19:19.45`	`NeoTron`	`it shows inside timers + outside debuff timer`
`19:20.07`	`vhaarr`	`vithos: it probably does, because we try to keep crap out of our bossmods`
`19:20.21`	`vhaarr`	`like timers for when Al'ar will change position in p1`
`19:20.23`	`vhaarr`	`jesus`
`19:20.40`	`Xuerian`	`pats vhaarr gently.`
`19:20.42`	`vithos`	`calm down :P`
`19:20.44`	`Xuerian`	`It's ok. He knows not what he says.`
`19:20.49`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`19:21.08`	`NeoTron`	`vhaarr: still BigWigs do miss some rather useful stuff such as kalecgos/sarthovarr health bars (not huge don't get me wrong) and timed bars in the kalecgos addon, the second whcih I'm working on to address`
`19:21.10`	`vhaarr`	`beer in 40min`
`19:21.13`	`vithos`	`but since you continue to challenge me, what about demon/dragon health bars on kalecgos?`
`19:21.15`	`vhaarr`	`I'll be calm then`
`19:21.19`	`NeoTron`	`for myself at least`
`19:21.24`	`vhaarr`	`vithos: bigwigs doesn't include any custom stuff like that`
`19:21.30`	`vhaarr`	`for any bosses`
`19:21.30`	`vithos`	`i know`
`19:21.42`	`vithos`	`but you consider that "crap" and "useless"?`
`19:21.43`	`Xuerian`	`vithos: We'll put it this way`
`19:21.45`	`vhaarr`	`yeah I do`
`19:22.00`	`Xuerian`	`vithos: Bigwigs includes what is needed for experienced and semi-experienced raiders`
`19:22.06`	`vhaarr`	`exactly`
`19:22.12`	`Xuerian`	`RBM has no problem including things that are only useful for nubs or lazy people`
`19:22.15`	`vithos`	`so when you do kalecgos, you don't communicate the health of the mobs in order to make sure they're close to 10% at the same time?`
`19:22.25`	`Xuerian`	`Now if you're a nub or lazy, well then you might find RBM more attractive and that isn't necessarily putting it down`
`19:22.35`	`vhaarr`	`vithos: it's called Ventrilo, and it's called raid chat`
`19:22.39`	`vhaarr`	`you can TYPE, can't you`
`19:22.41`	`vhaarr`	`"10%"`
`19:22.43`	`vhaarr`	`done.`
`19:22.44`	`vithos`	`of course.`
`19:22.49`	`vithos`	`that's what we do, use ventrilo`
`19:22.59`	`vithos`	`but that means it's useful information for the encounter`
`19:23.03`	`NeoTron`	`vhaarr: dude why have timers at all then, you can type can't you and use a stopwatch/`
`19:23.04`	`Xuerian`	`(This falls under "Lazy")`
`19:23.07`	`vhaarr`	`I've considered adding a warning to the bossmod for when any of them reach 5-10%`
`19:23.10`	`expiation`	`what are other mods you recommend besides bigwigs as must haves`
`19:23.15`	`NeoTron`	`arguing that raid CHAT is a replacement is dumb. vent, sure but raid chat/`
`19:23.41`	`vhaarr`	`NeoTron: I disagree, my raid chat is not spammed during boss fights`
`19:23.45`	`NeoTron`	`I dunno about you but when I TYPE stuff I can't dps unless i type and click a button at the same time`
`19:23.46`	`vhaarr`	`anything typed there is instantly noticed`
`19:24.02`	`NeoTron`	`it's not about being noticed. it's about wasting time typing crap`
`19:24.03`	`Xuerian`	`I can type and tank o_0`
`19:24.09`	`vhaarr`	`10%`
`19:24.12`	`vhaarr`	`that's 4 keystrokes`
`19:24.13`	`Xuerian`	`It's like typing and flying in any vehicle game`
`19:24.23`	`NeoTron`	`vhaarr: and also useless`
`19:24.25`	`vithos`	`some people have to push buttons while raiding :P`
`19:24.26`	`Xuerian`	`You know you're going to crash at some point, but you DO IT ANYWAY XD`
`19:24.27`	`NeoTron`	`10% what?`
`19:24.43`	`Xuerian`	`One would hope that people would get the context`
`19:24.45`	`Xuerian`	`If they don't`
`19:24.51`	`Xuerian`	`Perhaps they should be absent from your raids`
`19:24.55`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`19:24.56`	`NeoTron`	`knowing if said person is on the inside or outside`
`19:24.58`	`vhaarr`	`Xuerian understands`
`19:25.00`	`vhaarr`	`NeoTron doesn't`
`19:25.02`	`vhaarr`	`is leaving`
`19:25.04`	`NeoTron`	`is not fucking obvious`
`19:25.05`	Funkeh`	`I don't know about you, but I'd raher have someone call out the hp on vent, which is on my head, than move my eyes to the side of the screen to see the health`
`19:25.18`	Funkeh`	`I think it's more effort to move your eyes`
`19:25.20`	`Xuerian`	`NeoTron: Of course, us chatting here someone randomly shouts 10%...`
`19:25.29`	`Balstor`	`lua> string.gsub(string.gsub("BOTTOMLEFT", "TOP", ""), "BOTTOM", "")`
`19:25.29`	`lua_bot`	`Balstor: LEFT, 1`
`19:25.40`	`Balstor`	`rolling restarts suck btw`
`19:25.42`	`NeoTron`	`Xuerian: you need the context demon or dragon`
`19:25.43`	`Xuerian`	`But if you're doing the tiger boss in ZG and /RW'd to hit one specific mob, you announce 10% and everyone knows it means "Ok, 10%, move to the next one"`
`19:25.48`	`NeoTron`	`and it's not just 10% - by 10% it's too late`
`19:25.53`	`NeoTron`	`it's not like you can't see "enraged"`
`19:26.14`	`Xuerian`	`NeoTron: I'll give you that, seeing as I've never done that encounter. I can't honestly say how it'd work otherwise.`
`19:26.14`	`NeoTron`	`it's more of a constant syncing for the last 10% or so`
`19:26.34`	`vithos`	`the nature of the encounter means that one or the others' health can be ahead, it's usually the dragon is ahead, but not always`
`19:26.35`	`NeoTron`	`you need both around 10% at the same tiem, and often need to slow/stop dps on one of the`
`19:27.27`	`vithos`	`the demon needs to die first, because the dragon dying = no more portals down to the demon. but it's mostly just that they both enrage when EITHER one is at 10%`
`19:27.32`	`NeoTron`	`Nothing in a bossmod is necessary but calling healthbars in this fight useless is not true`
`19:27.46`	`Xuerian`	`If the bars are that useful, perhaps you should recommend or create a module for that encounter, instead of arguing for the feature to be in bigwigs itself :)`
`19:28.03`	`NeoTron`	`Xuerian: I plan to add syncing to MagicTargets which would take care of it`
`19:28.15`	`NeoTron`	`if other ppl run it that is`
`19:28.44`	`Xuerian`	`NeoTron: I was going to suggest some sort of perfecttargets/focus/raidtargets method of doing things, but heh that was out of the scope`
`19:28.52`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: btw, just wanted to let you know il ove magictargets, so nice when playing a dps class to make sure i'm not targeting the wrong mob, especially when there are multiple with the same name`
`19:29.19`	`NeoTron`	`:) it's working pretty well for it's relative simplicity`
`19:29.50`	`kergoth`	`i wonder if itd be worth adding support for showing an icon if hunter's mark is on the mob, if you're in a 5 man and dont feel like marking`
`19:29.53`	`Xuerian`	`NeoTron: MagicTargets is essentially a newer version of PerfectTargets, right? Where's it hosted?`
`19:29.54`	`kergoth`	`hrm`
`19:30.06`	`Daemona`	Funkeh` you want a real laugh (scrolled just back 6 hours about badboy and kgs ...)
`19:30.14`	`NeoTron`	`Xuerian: yes. wowace`
`19:30.27`	Funkeh`	`Daemona, lol`
`19:30.35`	`NeoTron`	`http://eongames.com/tmp/mgt.jpg`
`19:30.45`	`kergoth`	`Xuerian: oh hey, i wanted to talk to you about loot crap. remember the miscount that happens due to BAG_UPDATE sometimes hitting before CHAT_MSG_LOOT?`
`19:31.00`	`Daemona`	Funkeh` -> http://ace.pastey.net/87930
`19:31.08`	`Xuerian`	`kergoth: Oh, intimately`
`19:31.09`	`Daemona`	`that was all over a forum this morning`
`19:31.35`	Funkeh`	`haha`
`19:31.46`	`Daemona`	`~seen tekkub`
`19:31.48`	`purl`	`tekkub is currently on #wowuidev (2h 4m 37s) #wowace (2h 4m 37s) #wowwiki (2h 4m 37s), last said: 'uh, spirit'.`
`19:31.53`	`Xuerian`	`NeoTron: How does it keep track of all the marks, or does it simply not update healthbars unless a valid unit is there?`
`19:32.10`	`NeoTron`	`Xuerian: health is only updated on stuff that's targeted`
`19:32.13`	`Balstor`	`any waterfall users on?`
`19:32.24`	`Xuerian`	`Ah`
`19:32.25`	`NeoTron`	`it hooks into, and persists, magicmarker targets (if you have it enabled)`
`19:32.31`	`NeoTron`	`which is what you see there`
`19:33.04`	`NeoTron`	`I have some issues still - the cleanup code will remove mobs that are CC'd and not "magic marked"`
`19:33.11`	`NeoTron`	`because there are no combat log events from them (oops0`
`19:34.10`	`kergoth`	`Xuerian: http://git.kergoth.com/wow/LootAlert.git?a=blob;f=scanning.lua http://git.kergoth.com/wow/LootAlert.git?a=blob;f=addon.lua it's disgusting, but i thought you might find it amusing, the lengths i had to go to.. and even now, i hav ea report or two of problems :( thinking about taking another approach, maybe scan the loot window and monitor the next bag updates with GetItemCounts to make sure they hit, and report the loot then`
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`19:34.35`	`Xuerian`	`Holy chit`
`19:35.19`	`Windcape`	`hey, beql's quest tracker is locking itself to a single position, did Blizzard implement something that removes the ability to customize the position?`
`19:35.43`	`kergoth`	`it monitors bag updates and loot messages, excluding updates when we could get something that isnt a loot, and maintains a pending count, subtracting from it when the bag update hits, and adding to it when the loot message hits, and uses that pending count with the internally kept itemcount`
`19:35.44`	`Balstor`	`kergoth don't forget a hunter firing an error fires an inventory event (can't think of why i would remmber that so well) ( whistle)`
`19:36.00`	`Balstor`	`s/error/arrow`
`19:36.49`	`kergoth`	`is crazy`
`19:36.57`	`Balstor`	`btw anyone seen the game "Mirrors Edge" trailer?`
`19:37.10`	`Xuerian`	`kergoth: Agh. Or we could just ask blizz to fix it >.>`
`19:38.20`	`kergoth`	`it almost seems like latency affects the chat message, but not the bag update, so when the lag spikes at the wrong time, they swap`
`19:38.29`	`kergoth`	`wonder if bag updates are client side`
`19:39.01`	`Xuerian`	`Probably, since blizz seems so keen on keeping bandwidth to a minimum`
`19:39.12`	`Xuerian`	`(Even though they've already passed the "Normally playable by 56k" mark..)`
`19:41.40`	`Tularis`	`it passed many more marks too`
`19:41.52`	`Tularis`	`like min. machine req.`
`19:42.00`	Funkeh`	`pretty sure recount destroyed the 56k mark`
`19:42.07`	Funkeh`	`before 2.4 anyway`
`19:43.27`	`NeoTron`	`playing an mmo on a modem => fail`
`19:43.34`	`NeoTron`	`can't imagine how horrible that'd be`
`19:43.58`	Funkeh`	`a modem full stop is horrible`
`19:43.58`	`vithos`	`i leveled to 60 on 28.8k right before TBC came out`
`19:44.14`	Funkeh`	`in my eyes, anyway`
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`19:44.19`	Funkeh`	`Id hate to go back`
`19:44.38`	`vithos`	`if i tried to go to ironforge at the wrong time, i'd get disconnected and would be unable to log back in until there were less people there`
`19:44.52`	Funkeh`	`lol`
`19:45.04`	Funkeh`	`ah, the days of lagforge`
`19:45.08`	Funkeh`	`miss them`
`19:45.19`	Funkeh`	`no, infact, I don't ;p`
`19:45.37`	`Tularis`	`as laggy as IF was, shattrath is now`
`19:45.55`	`Balstor`	`raidied MC with teamsoeak on a 56k modem`
`19:45.57`	`NeoTron`	`shat is worse`
`19:46.00`	`hypetech`	`anybody here have experience with SMF forums?`
`19:46.03`	`Kaaosa-`	`Shatt has never been as bad for me as IF used to be`
`19:46.05`	Funkeh`	`nah it's not`
`19:46.07`	`NeoTron`	`shat is naturally laggy without ppl`
`19:46.11`	`Balstor`	`typing is something i haven't heard of today`
`19:46.15`	`NeoTron`	`like I get 15-25 fps with no one around`
`19:46.24`	`NeoTron`	`if I leave shatt it jumps up to 40-60`
`19:46.29`	`Kaaosa-`	`Though, I went from playing on Tichondrius to playing on Ravenholdt, which is a tiny server`
`19:46.54`	`Tularis`	`playing on sylvanas atm, but it's turning into a dead server`
`19:47.03`	`NeoTron`	`for some reason shatt is killing my FPS and it must be a CPU reason because my GPU is powerful enough`
`19:47.15`	`Kaaosa-`	`Ravenholdt just had its first Illidan kill like, last week :x`
`19:47.17`	`Tularis`	`guilds form, reform, reform, reform, die, ressurrect, reform, reform, reform, die again`
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`19:47.28`	`Windcape`	`Kaaosa- ... no?`
`19:47.37`	`Windcape`	`alliance killed him ages ago`
`19:47.47`	`Windcape`	`or do you mean US?`
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`19:49.04`	`vithos`	`NeoTron: shat kills my fps, but i think it's gpu. changing the terrain view distance makes a gigantic difference for me`
`19:49.17`	`Kaaosa-`	`Windcape: US`
`19:49.23`	`Windcape`	`sorry then :)`
`19:49.28`	`NeoTron`	`vithos: Geforce 8800 GT`
`19:49.40`	`vithos`	`ah, i'm still on a 7800 GTX`
`19:49.41`	`NeoTron`	`and upgrading from a 7800 GLX made essentially no difference in shattrah`
`19:49.54`	`NeoTron`	`maybe a few more FPS but no jump`
`19:50.02`	`NeoTron`	`so fi it's gpu bound, it's also cpu bount`
`19:50.12`	`NeoTron`	`overall my FPS didn't really improve with a GPU upgrade`
`19:50.23`	`vithos`	`i get about 60fps with terrain distance at minimum in shattrath, 15fps at maximum`
`19:50.34`	`CIA-42`	`03Thaoky * r74083 10Altoholic/:`
`19:50.34`	`CIA-42`	`Altoholic:`
`19:50.34`	`CIA-42`	`- Updated wrong external for AceLocale-2.2`
`19:50.36`	`vithos`	`what cpu are you using?`
`19:50.42`	`NeoTron`	`see from what I heard is that there's an issue in shattrah especially`
`19:50.43`	`vithos`	`i have an athlon x2 4400`
`19:50.53`	`NeoTron`	`where wow renders or calculates stuff for hidden surfaces`
`19:51.00`	`vithos`	`ah`
`19:51.07`	`NeoTron`	`essentially it does crap for stuff you can't see anyway`
`19:51.15`	`vithos`	`sounds about right`
`19:51.30`	`NeoTron`	`I have the same CPU I think`
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`19:52.34`	`expiation`	`can anyone fix simpleunitframes?`
`19:54.17`	`Vulcanus`	`Q6600 @ 3.0 GHz ftw`
`19:54.34`	`expiation`	`just shows error when i target anyone`
`19:54.36`	`Tularis`	`shattrath is a huge water pool, of which 99% is hidden`
`19:54.46`	`Tularis`	`and textured over with "flooring"`
`19:57.27`	`Tularis`	`crap, someone died while climbing again >.<`
`19:57.33`	`Tularis`	`ugh, such a moron`
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`19:59.14`	`Balstor`	`anyone now if you have a waterfall options panel open for it to refresh itself?`
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`20:10.18`	`expiation`	`it has a problem with libmobhealth i guess?`
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`20:13.51`	`NeoTron`	`Tularis: whatever it, shattrah in particular is really bad for performance due to bugs and/or limitations in the WoW engine`
`20:15.29`	`Balstor`	`from an article i saw posted on why shat graphics sucks it looked like blizzard forgot to put normals on their vertexes. (custom shaders for the win)`
`20:19.43`	`DARKGuy`	`I think that's very probable. The city is plain FLAT`
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`20:24.34`	`vithos`	`kergoth: alt+drag isn't working for PerfBlock`
`20:25.41`	`kergoth`	`heh, i havent run perfblock myself in quite a while, i'll take a look when i get home`
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`20:26.46`	`vithos`	`ah ok`
`20:27.15`	`kergoth`	`(at work at the moment)`
`20:27.24`	`expiation`	`~seen rophy`
`20:27.42`	`purl`	`rophy <n=root@196.205.207.180> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 37d 3h 46m 19s ago, saying: 'okay thanxx'.`
`20:27.51`	`expiation`	`wow`
`20:27.55`	`expiation`	`i guess he aint gonna update it ;\`
`20:28.29`	`Primer`	`Are there directories other than WTF where settings are stored? I rsync WTF between 2 machines, but the destination machine lacks stuff I created yesterday on the source, and I've synced since`
`20:29.04`	`Primer`	`so...WTF?`
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`20:30.53`	`kenlyric`	`underhud is nearly perfect except it thinks that wanding resets the 5sr`
`20:31.20`	`kenlyric`	`lack's "stuff"`
`20:31.26`	`kenlyric`	`what does it lack, specifically?`
`20:31.34`	`DARKGuy`	`stuff man, stuff`
`20:31.35`	`DARKGuy`	`:P`
`20:32.41`	`kenlyric`	`oh, and also skinning`
`20:32.49`	`kenlyric`	`it must reset the 5sr with any action :)`
`20:33.11`	`kergoth`	`heh, sounds like the underhud guy should read the wowwiki page on the fsr`
`20:34.21`	`CIA-42`	`03ulic * r74084 10LittleWigs/Auchindoun/ (Blackheart.lua Murmur.lua):`
`20:34.21`	`CIA-42`	`LittleWigs:`
`20:34.21`	`CIA-42`	`- Auch/Blackheart: Changed to use SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS`
`20:34.21`	`CIA-42`	`- Auch/Murmur: Added spellIds for Heroic`
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`20:40.27`	`Balstor`	`anyone use SetFrameLevel?`
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`20:41.05`	`erica647`	`Accelerated Christian Educuation eh? I always wondered about that lol`
`20:41.33`	`Kaaosa-`	`Everything we do, we do for Jesus`
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`20:42.04`	`erica647`	`I know`
`20:45.55`	`erica647`	`Well I finished my dailies and need some new toys... anyone seen or made any cool new mods lately?`
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`20:46.18`	`CIA-42`	`03totalpackage * r74085 10InFlight/ (InFlight.lua InFlight.toc Locales/):`
`20:46.18`	`CIA-42`	`InFlight:`
`20:46.18`	`CIA-42`	`- revert to 73084; localize it like InFlight_Load and don't cause any major changes`
`20:46.19`	`Aeyan`	`If any one would, Jesus would need some accurate death tracking in the combat log.`
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`20:46.36`	`erica647`	`rofl`
`20:47.01`	`erica647`	`I feel the static charge building in my head... lightning is sure soon to follow`
`20:47.29`	`Keias`	`That doesn't sound healthy`
`20:47.37`	`Keias`	`But zapping people would be pretty sweet`
`20:47.49`	`erica647`	`I could think of a few I'd like to try that with`
`20:48.12`	`Keias`	`whatever happened, I didn't do it`
`20:48.24`	`Keias`	`Even if I did, I'm saying I didn't.`
`20:48.25`	`erica647`	`I should hope not`
`20:48.32`	`erica647`	`Smart`
`20:48.42`	`Keias`	`I like to try and cover all bases.`
`20:49.21`	`erica647`	`Your logic is kinda flawed... not supposed to leave room for doubt :P`
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`20:54.18`	`CIA-42`	`03lordrhys * r74086 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (FactionItemsCore.lua FactionItemsFuLocals.lua): FuBar_FactionItemsFu: - added Shadow Dust to Sha'tari Skyguard`
`20:54.28`	`NeoTron`	`serious work on BabyWigs => win`
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`20:57.27`	`mikma`	`so what about the season4 ... can we get better items with badges?`
`20:59.39`	`NeoTron`	`so I wonder if wotlk items will start closer to tier 5-6 level rather than t4-ish`
`20:59.48`	`NeoTron`	`considering how liberally they are giving out t6 items now`
`21:02.07`	`Aeyan`	`I was always concerned with arena gear eclipsing top end raid gear by the time wotlk is out.`
`21:02.20`	`Aeyan`	`I assume they'll stop at season 4, but still`
`21:03.02`	`Lukian`	`yeah season 4 will be the last`
`21:03.02`	`Antiarc`	`clad\|away: I just got my copy of the book :D`
`21:03.13`	`Lukian`	`it's designed to be t6 equiv.. but I guess people have some arena points stashed away for it`
`21:04.48`	`Aeyan`	`I have no doubt, hehe.`
`21:08.03`	`Balstor`	`lua> string.gsub(string.gsub("TOPCENTER", "TOP", ""), "BOTTOM", "")`
`21:08.04`	`lua_bot`	`Balstor: CENTER, 0`
`21:08.43`	`Hell-Razor`	`i cant think of the addon name but can somebody tell me the alternative to sct?`
`21:08.56`	`steev`	`parrot, msbt`
`21:09.13`	`mikma`	`FCT`
`21:10.29`	`clad\|away`	`Antiarc: im' so sorry i ttook so long`
`21:10.35`	`clad\|away`	`the publisher and I are.. having words`
`21:10.38`	`clad\|away`	`you should have had it a month ago =(`
`21:10.49`	`Antiarc`	`Heh, no worries. I was just excited to see it show up :)`
`21:12.48`	`Lukian`	`Antiarc, !`
`21:12.56`	`Lukian`	`Antiarc, can you filter critters from aoe mode? :D`
`21:13.03`	`Lukian`	`it's funny seeing squirrels in there`
`21:13.25`	`Xuerian`	`Foamy would beg to differ`
`21:14.13`	`Antiarc`	`I'll think about it, but they die quickly :P`
`21:14.23`	`Kaaosa-`	`Make them never disappear.`
`21:14.27`	`Kaaosa-`	`So you always remember them.`
`21:14.35`	`Lukian`	`yes, but they persist for longer than they should Antiarc`
`21:14.40`	`Kaaosa-`	`Never forget.`
`21:14.42`	`Lukian`	`they are still there after they die :D`
`21:16.56`	`Lukian`	`3 of my group members in normal BM today were using 68xxx threatlib 2.0 :(`
`21:17.13`	`Lukian`	`the paladin tank, I only pulled aggro when I hit about 170% :p`
`21:17.21`	`Hell-Razor`	`is there anyway to make it so the people i have selected are more easily visible?`
`21:17.53`	`Lukian`	`Hell-Razor, clarify your question`
`21:18.47`	`Hell-Razor`	`like in pvp... its a pain to try and follow the guy through the crowd in av once i have him selected... like is there an addon to put something above his head or highlight him`
`21:19.21`	`Lukian`	`raid target icons? :p`
`21:19.48`	`Hell-Razor`	`yeah i ws going to use that as a last resort`
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`21:23.19`	`CIA-42`	`03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74087 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua:`
`21:23.19`	`CIA-42`	`LibBars-1.0: Handle vertical orientations in SortBars, so groups of vertical`
`21:23.19`	`CIA-42`	`bars should work now. The 'growup' option should probably be renamed to`
`21:23.19`	`CIA-42`	`something that makes more sense, however. Currently, growup makes the vertical`
`21:23.19`	`CIA-42`	`bars grow to the left instead of to the right.`
`21:23.25`	`Primer`	`Are there directories other than WTF where settings are stored? I rsync WTF between 2 machines, but the destination machine lacks stuff I created yesterday on the source, and I've synced since`
`21:25.21`	`NeoTron`	`did you sync the entire WTF?`
`21:25.27`	`Primer`	`yes`
`21:25.36`	`antiman`	`Question for those in the know: If the original author appears to have abandoned an Ace Addon (specifically FuBar_DPS), what's the general policy of getting changes committed into SVN?`
`21:25.44`	`Burgermeal`	`WTF should be the only foulder`
`21:26.00`	`vhaarr`	`antiman: the policy is that you just commit without questions`
`21:26.09`	`vhaarr`	`antiman: shoot first, explain later`
`21:26.33`	`Burgermeal`	`you could make a branch?`
`21:26.46`	`kergoth`	`hmm, need to fix the anchor positioning for vertical bars.. not sure how best to do that. either keep the anchor horizontal, which leads to positioning problems near the edges of the screen, or make the anchor vertical, but have no text on it`
`21:26.55`	`kergoth`	`guess an anchor with no text isnt the end of the world`
`21:27.19`	`antiman`	`I thought about branching, but how does the branch then become the version people grab via WAU or from files.wowace.com?`
`21:27.27`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: if the anchor is vertical it would have to reposition itself based on which side of the screen it's on`
`21:27.32`	`vhaarr`	`antiman: don't branch, commit`
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`21:28.23`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: right now, the anchor is already positioned based on whether you have growup set or not. vertical would be no different, if you want the anchor on the right side of the bars, to put it on the right screen edge, set growup`
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`21:29.24`	`Daemona`	`anyone can tell me how i figure out the naming convention on bartender3 so i can use /click BartenderBarXButtonY`
`21:29.25`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: ah okay, so if you want to position the bars pixel perfect at the left edge of the screen, but the author of the addon decided that the bars should only be on the right side, you're screwed?`
`21:30.17`	`vhaarr`	`or am I missing something`
`21:30.21`	`vhaarr`	`I have been drinking`
`21:30.22`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`21:30.40`	`vhaarr`	`it's the same thing if you want bars positioned at the very top as well?`
`21:30.47`	`vhaarr`	`for horizontal bars`
`21:30.49`	`NivFreak`	`did we get death messages back in the combat log for 2.4.2?`
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`21:33.54`	`Daemona`	`nevermind, figured it out`
`21:34.02`	`kergoth`	`vhaarr: pretty much, yep. but if the addon has no option to reverse the growth, you cant puti t on that side of the screen anyway, or new bars will grow right off the edge of the screen :P`
`21:35.11`	`vhaarr`	`[X]B`
`21:35.13`	`vhaarr`	`[X]BB`
`21:35.15`	`vhaarr`	`[X]BBB`
`21:35.22`	`vhaarr`	`[X] is the anchor`
`21:35.33`	`vhaarr`	`I want the first bar (B) to be at the exact edge of the left side of the screen`
`21:35.35`	`vhaarr`	`can I do that?`
`21:35.49`	`CIA-42`	`03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74088 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Make the anchor behave sanely for a barList with vertical orientation. Untested.`
`21:36.24`	`vhaarr`	`does the bars collapse on the anchor when it's hidden?`
`21:36.26`	`kergoth`	`hmm, probably not, not without moving the anchor off the screen too, with a B[X]`
`21:36.41`	`kergoth`	`checks the code`
`21:36.52`	`kergoth`	`collapsing on the anchor is the best way to do it`
`21:36.54`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: seems like a common usecase for bars`
`21:36.55`	`vhaarr`	`yeah`
`21:38.56`	`CIA-42`	`03jerry 07Ace3 * r74089 10Grid/Grid2/GridLayoutLayouts.lua: Grid2: fix layout pet groups`
`21:41.01`	`kergoth`	`it doesn't collapse right now. the bars are always positioned relative to the bar list object, which is the size of a normal bar, but which isnt visible itself. the button is anchored so it overlaps the bar list object. i'll make the bar sorting change the initial anchoring to be inside the bar list frame rather than at its outer edge, if the anchor is hidden`
`21:41.03`	`kergoth`	`hrmph`
`21:41.46`	`CIA-42`	`03gagorian * r74090 10DrDamage/ (Data/Druid.lua Data/Rogue.lua Data/Warrior.lua Melee.lua):`
`21:41.46`	`CIA-42`	`DrDamage:`
`21:41.46`	`CIA-42`	`- Fixed mutilate not adding the bonus damage to the offhand hit`
`21:41.46`	`CIA-42`	`- Fixed Impale applying incorrectly to Thunder Clap`
`21:41.46`	`CIA-42`	`- Fixed Slam being normalized`
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`21:47.39`	`Xuerian`	`kergoth: What about being able to define which side of the anchor the bars attach to?`
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`21:52.02`	`NeoTron`	`you should be able to do that already`
`21:52.06`	`NeoTron`	`by reversing the growth direction`
`21:55.28`	`Dashkal`	`It would be good to be able to specify _both_ anchor side and growth direction. It'll make it possible to handle the (pardon the pun) edge case of lining up on the edge of the screen while still being able to grow _away_ from the bar for normal placement.`
`21:56.03`	`Xuerian`	`Yeah, otherwise you have, say, growth to the right with a bar-width space, or growth to the left flush`
`21:56.06`	`NeoTron`	`you mean move the handle when the number of bars are added?`
`21:56.19`	`Xuerian`	`No...`
`21:56.48`	`NeoTron`	`either you grow up or you grow down`
`21:56.52`	`Xuerian`	`So you can go [XB]BBBB or BBBB[BX]`
`21:56.53`	`NeoTron`	`I guess I don't understand what you mean`
`21:57.12`	`NeoTron`	`yeah/`
`21:57.13`	`Xuerian`	`Instead of just [X]BBBBB or BBBBB[BX]`
`21:57.21`	`Xuerian`	`Which is normal and inverse`
`21:57.29`	`NeoTron`	`what is [X] and [BX] ?`
`21:57.35`	`Xuerian`	`[X] is the anchor`
`21:57.44`	`Xuerian`	`[XB] is the anchor with a bar on it`
`21:57.48`	`NeoTron`	`you mean the bar growing inside the anchor?`
`21:57.56`	`Xuerian`	`Using SetPoint terminology...`
`21:58.03`	`Xuerian`	`Bar 1 would setpoint LEFT to LEFT on anchor`
`21:58.15`	`Xuerian`	`then 2 would setpoint LEFT to RIGHT on bar1`
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`21:58.39`	`Xuerian`	`or... going to the left, setpoint RIGHT to RIGHT on anchor, then next bar would be RIGHT to LEFT on bar1`
`21:59.06`	`CIA-42`	`03tsigo 07Ace3 * r74091 10Cutup/modules/ (Bleeder.lua Julienne.lua): Cutup: Better combo point tracking on target changes.`
`21:59.37`	`CIA-42`	`03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74092 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua:`
`21:59.37`	`CIA-42`	`LibBars-1.0: Fix barList height/width for vertical orientation, add`
`21:59.37`	`CIA-42`	`barListPrototype:SetOrientation(), setup button for vertical vs horizontal in`
`21:59.37`	`CIA-42`	`:SetOrientation() and at bar list creation time, rather than :ReverseGrowth(),`
`21:59.38`	`CIA-42`	`and collapse the bars into the anchor when the anchor is hidden. Untested.`
`21:59.39`	`Toadkiller`	`Wow this irc registerring thing is totally obvious and super easy to figure out in the mIRC ui.`
`21:59.59`	`Xuerian`	`Toadkiller: Uh, the ui? Just get down and dirty with /nickserv`
`22:00.18`	`Xuerian`	`onconnect command list ftw`
`22:01.00`	`Balstor`	`anyone heard of the event MIRROR_TIMER_START`
`22:01.28`	`Toadkiller`	`Ok question about GetSpellInfo ... what are people doing with it. creating 5 billion local variables? Shoving it into a table? If into a table should there be a lib for it so we can avoid dupes?`
`22:01.42`	`Toadkiller`	`Balstor: heard of it`
`22:01.56`	`Balstor`	`not using it cause it fails to give me information from other classes`
`22:02.02`	`kergoth`	`depends on what you're diong with it.. when i've used it, i've only needed one or two of the return values`
`22:02.11`	`Balstor`	`Toadkiller how do i use it, I'm trying to hide the casting bar`
`22:02.32`	`kergoth`	`Xuerian: what you just described, [XB]BBB is what i just implemented, i think.. need to test it when i get home :)`
`22:02.36`	`Xuerian`	`kergoth: That commit sounds good. Simpler than my suggestion :P`
`22:02.39`	`Balstor`	`tiadkiller using methud as an example way to hide the bar`
`22:02.48`	`kergoth`	`no options though, just always collapses whent he anchor is hidden`
`22:02.53`	`Toadkiller`	`Xuerian: Yeah I mostly did that but then eventually u need to add a password to some server. Turns out I could do it for the channel instead...`
`22:03.04`	`Xuerian`	`kergoth: So what does it do? actually re-size the anchor?`
`22:03.25`	`Xuerian`	`Toadkiller: You can do whatever you want with on-connects, usually :P`
`22:03.27`	`Xuerian`	`shrugs.`
`22:03.39`	`Toadkiller`	`Apparently its a free for all yes`
`22:03.47`	`Balstor`	`toadkiller : ummm I may see my issue, ignore my question for now`
`22:03.59`	`kergoth`	`the anchor/barlist frame only resize when you switch from vertical to horizontal or back. "collapsing" just does a setpoint topright to topright for bar1 to the anchor, then topleft to topright for bar2 to bar1, when growing tot he right`
`22:04.04`	`kergoth`	`like you described`
`22:04.53`	`kergoth`	`er, i think barListPrototype:GetBarTop() is pretty meaningless now. Antiarc, what was the intended use case for this function?`
`22:05.35`	`kergoth`	`Antiarc: and do you want the ability to set a backdrop / border for the whole bar group added to libbars? since right now there is no frame encompassing the entirety..`
`22:05.54`	`Zhinjio`	`Ackis: ping`
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`22:06.34`	`Toadkiller`	`Pkekyo\|: ping`
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`22:07.58`	`Tinyboom`	`Toadkiller: he's probably drunk as hell:p`
`22:08.36`	`Tinyboom`	`Toadkiller: last night of celebrating end of school:)`
`22:08.45`	`Toadkiller`	`lol`
`22:09.15`	`Toadkiller`	`well if u know him tell his noob but to switch from cyCirlced to ButtonFacade to skin AutoBar`
`22:09.43`	`Toadkiller`	`& congratulations`
`22:09.46`	`expiation`	`can somebody that knows lua look at simpleunitframes?`
`22:09.59`	`Tinyboom`	`only know him from this channel:) you can tell his hungover self tomorrow, more than 10 years ago I celebrated like that:p`
`22:10.48`	`Toadkiller`	`all right`
`22:11.10`	`expiation`	`it shows error for targets health whenever i target something`
`22:12.16`	`expiation`	`and for party etc too`
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`22:18.29`	`expiation`	`:( i dont want to go back to ctmod again`
`22:19.15`	`NeoTron`	`ctmod. lol?`
`22:21.57`	`expiation`	`its the only other mod i know of that does what i want besides simpleunitframes`
`22:21.58`	`expiation`	`which is broke`
`22:22.22`	`copystring`	`i installed simpleunitframes 2days ago, works fine for me`
`22:22.24`	`NeoTron`	`x-perl, pitbull... waht do you "want" exactly?`
`22:22.54`	`expiation`	`displaying the life/percent without changing the unitframes`
`22:23.25`	`NeoTron`	`what do you mean without changing the unit frames?`
`22:23.46`	`vithos`	`isn't that a blizzard default option?`
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`22:24.32`	`expiation`	`like pitbull and x-perl make their own look`
`22:24.39`	`expiation`	`i like the default blizz frames look`
`22:25.08`	`vithos`	`expiation: Interface Options > Status Text doesn't do what you want?`
`22:25.21`	`expiation`	`i want the percent on mobs too`
`22:25.37`	`NeoTron`	`then enable it?`
`22:25.57`	`vithos`	`i see "Target" and "Display Percentages"`
`22:28.32`	`expiation`	`that only shows one or the other for yourself though`
`22:29.25`	`expiation`	`http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3908/brokenqz9.jpg <-- simpleunitframes shows that now`
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`22:30.22`	`copystring`	`expiation, try to delete the SimpleUnitFrames.lua in your WTF folder`
`22:30.42`	`expiation`	`http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4029/iwantlikethisbp5.jpg <-- thats how i used to have it`
`22:30.48`	`expiation`	`ok ill try that`
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`22:32.42`	`CIA-42`	`03oridan * r74093 10SpellReminder/ (. SpellReminder.lua combatlog.lua embeds.xml options.lua):`
`22:32.42`	`CIA-42`	`SpellReminder:`
`22:32.42`	`CIA-42`	`- remove gratuity`
`22:32.42`	`CIA-42`	`- some restructure to properly separate tracking and bars`
`22:32.43`	`CIA-42`	`- added target and focus filters.`
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`22:35.17`	`expiation`	`cheers copystring`
`22:35.21`	`expiation`	`wonder why that messed it up`
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`22:35.42`	`copystring`	`can happen if you use it for while, dunno why exactly :p`
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`22:37.24`	`expiation`	`also looks like they completely changed the setting names`
`22:39.26`	`expiation`	`putting hp/mp at the front`
`22:39.57`	`copystring`	`you can change that via rockconfig`
`22:40.17`	`CIA-42`	`03sayclub * r74094 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua:`
`22:40.17`	`CIA-42`	`GridStatusRaidDebuff:`
`22:40.17`	`CIA-42`	`- ZoneCheck bugfix`
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`22:46.29`	`expiation`	`you still here copystring?`
`22:46.51`	`psychogears`	`Howdy.`
`22:46.53`	`CIA-42`	`03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74095 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Simplify SortBars, now we only check growup once, not for every bar, and we use the same loop for the first bar as for the rest when collapsing. Untested.`
`22:47.09`	`psychogears`	`Anyone here familiar with AceGUI-3.0 ScrollFrame widget?`
`22:47.16`	`expiation`	`not I`
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`22:47.34`	`expiation`	or Funkeh` are you there?
`22:47.49`	`NeoTron`	`that reminds me - it seems I have timed bars that remain using space when sorted`
`22:47.56`	`NeoTron`	`even though they are not visible`
`22:48.00`	`NeoTron`	`not released correctly perhaps?`
`22:48.21`	`psychogears`	`sorry?`
`22:48.25`	`NeoTron`	`normally you wouldn't see it because normal sortinb puts them at the end of the list but I used reverse sorting so they were on toop`
`22:48.46`	`expiation`	`http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1012/brokenpr9.jpg <-- i get this happening now that i switched to basicchatmods`
`22:48.59`	`NeoTron`	`psychogears: comment was to kergoth`
`22:49.02`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: looks like SortBars() isnt called when removing a bar from the group, so it wont resort until you add another bar. it should probably re-call sortbars when removing a bar, unless the bar removed was the last one`
`22:49.06`	`psychogears`	`ok`
`22:50.37`	Funkeh`	`expiation, wierd, will look into it O_o`
`22:50.55`	`NeoTron`	`kergoth: I call sortbars ever update (every second in fact)`
`22:51.31`	`NeoTron`	`at least I think I do :P`
`22:51.53`	`expiation`	`thanks`
`22:53.35`	`NeoTron`	`kergoth: when a bar expires, is it removed is the question?`
`22:53.38`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: sortbars only sorts the bars in self.bars, and self.bars[bar.name] gets set to nil in lib.ReleaseBar, so I don't see how it could stick around`
`22:53.39`	`NeoTron`	`because I don't actually remove any bars`
`22:53.43`	`kergoth`	`yes, once the fade finishes`
`22:53.54`	`kergoth`	`timer finishes -> :Fade(). fade finishes -> releasebar, sortbars`
`22:53.55`	`NeoTron`	`it definitely remains`
`22:54.05`	`NeoTron`	`I'll do some testing tonight`
`22:54.36`	`kergoth`	`http://modblog.bmezine.com/2008/05/16/a-secret-message-from-my-feet/`
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`22:57.17`	Funkeh`	`expiation, what was the message? 'The Horde Field Scout is now issuing Battle Standards.' ?`
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`22:58.07`	Funkeh`	`trying to whisper it to myself with no joy`
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`22:58.51`	`kergoth`	`NeoTron: you using timer bars or counter bars?`
`22:59.13`	`NeoTron`	`kergoth: timer`
`22:59.34`	`psychogears`	`Hey, I don't want to get kicked out, am I allowed to reask my question after a certain amount of time? I don't want to be marked as a spammer.`
`22:59.37`	`kergoth`	`hm, okay, well let me know what you come up with`
`23:00.31`	`vhaarr`	`psychogears: try asking Nargiddley about AceGUI-3.0`
`23:00.48`	`psychogears`	`thanks. I'm following any and all leads to figure this out.`
`23:00.50`	`expiation`	`yea`
`23:00.51`	`vhaarr`	`psychogears: but yes, you can reask after some time, but not less than an hour`
`23:00.57`	`psychogears`	`do I just PM?`
`23:01.00`	`vhaarr`	`no`
`23:01.02`	`vhaarr`	`you ask publicly`
`23:01.02`	`expiation`	`its from that world pvp thing`
`23:01.08`	`Nargiddley`	`If its the scrollframe widget, i'm replying to that post now`
`23:01.14`	`psychogears`	`yeah`
`23:01.17`	`psychogears`	`oh sweet thanks`
`23:01.26`	`psychogears`	`BTW I started a little documentation on AceGUI-3.0`
`23:01.30`	`psychogears`	`on the wiki`
`23:01.42`	`vhaarr`	`nice, that's very much needed`
`23:01.47`	`psychogears`	`so sorry if it's misleading, I just put what I could figure from reading the code`
`23:01.48`	`NeoTron`	`WTB application of the patch that makes the Ace3 tree widget have a resizable tree`
`23:02.25`	`psychogears`	`I'll put your feedback on the wiki page somewhere`
`23:02.35`	`psychogears`	`Today's my first day editing any wiki page as well, it's alot of learning`
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`23:02.40`	`Stanzilla`	`NeoTron: It's already in the branches afaik`
`23:03.12`	`NeoTron`	`ah maybe I shall try it out`
`23:05.09`	`expiation`	Funkeh` could just be me, but taking over those beacons would let you see it i guess
`23:05.29`	`Nandini`	`any clues why blizzard brought back the "Looting [Item Name] will bind it to you." messages for items only you can loot?`
`23:05.41`	`Nandini`	`for BoP items only you can loot, that is`
`23:05.52`	`Vulcanus`	`They didn't do this for Badge of Justice, so I'm happy ;p`
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`23:08.10`	`CIA-42`	`03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74096 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: UpdateTimer: Don't need the 8 argument form of SetTexCoord when not rotating (horizontal orientations). We still need to use SetTexCoord, however, to crop the texture rather than resizing it.`
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`23:10.07`	`kergoth`	`wonders how badly he broke libbars with all this drycoding`
`23:10.32`	`NeoTron`	`about this badly: >-----------<`
`23:10.33`	`Toadkiller`	`Take the weekend off and find out on Monday imo`
`23:10.43`	`kergoth`	`Toadkiller: brilliant!`
`23:12.51`	`kergoth`	`hmm, guess if i update GetBarTop, itd be possible to create a backdrop for the barList from the addon.. just need a better name for the method, since it might be top, bottom, left, or right depending on orientation and growup`
`23:14.03`	`Xuerian`	`kergoth: When bars expire, do they fade or disappear? What happens when a bar midway up the stack is removed?`
`23:14.11`	`Gngsk`	`GetBarAnchorPoint?`
`23:14.34`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: I'm not even sure what the method is supposed to do now from just knowing the name`
`23:14.35`	`vhaarr`	`so yeah`
`23:14.36`	`vhaarr`	`change it`
`23:14.59`	`kergoth`	`the bar list frame is where the anchor is, the GetBarTop() is the other edge, where bars are being added`
`23:15.09`	`kergoth`	`so you can re-anchor your backdrop frame or whatever else`
`23:15.13`	`vhaarr`	`GetBarAttachPoint`
`23:15.22`	`kergoth`	`good call`
`23:15.24`	`vhaarr`	`GetNextAttachPoint`
`23:16.02`	`psychogears`	`Thanks for the response Nargiddley. The follow on question to this is do I start putting all my content in the scrollframe or just add it to the frame itself? I'll tool around with it and document my findings, though.`
`23:16.03`	`kergoth`	`Xuerian: the default timer finished callback for a bar list starts a fade, and the default fade finished for a bar list removes the bar from the list and re-does a sortbars to resort/reanchor everything, so a bar being automatically removed from the middle will be fine`
`23:16.14`	`JJSheets`	`I've decided my Warlock's primary profession will be fishing. :p`
`23:16.22`	`kergoth`	`Xuerian: if, however, you manually :RemoveBar() a bar in the middle, you ahve to sortbars yourself, but i expect thats a good thing, as you could remove multiple bars in one pass and just sort once when you're done`
`23:16.31`	`Xuerian`	`kergoth: This sounds a lot how I made the horrible pile of crap that is AnchorsAway >_>`
`23:16.35`	`Xuerian`	`Except, not horrible crap`
`23:16.46`	`Nargiddley`	`psychogears, all content would go into the scrollframe.`
`23:16.53`	`kergoth`	`its antiarc's, i'm just hacking on it since he went and got a life on us.`
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`23:16.53`	`kergoth`	`bastard`
`23:17.01`	`Xuerian`	`He did? =O`
`23:17.16`	`Antiarc`	`I'm here-ish`
`23:17.18`	`Antiarc`	`Just busy.`
`23:17.21`	`Xuerian`	`Bastard!`
`23:18.32`	`kergoth`	`we're approaching a point where this could be considered feature complete. i want methods for hiding label text and timer text and keeping them hidden, both for a bar and a bar list, and i want to be able to disable fading on a bar lsit, and we need that get attach point method.. hmm`
`23:18.56`	`copystring`	`expiation, im here now`
`23:19.17`	`NeoTron`	`does it have fixed bar coloring yet?`
`23:19.20`	`kergoth`	`Xuerian: didnt anchorsaway support more than just timer bars though? wasnt it how you implemented xlootmonitor?`
`23:19.27`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: it also needs some stress testing, and was a method added to set a static color for a bar(list) ?`
`23:19.37`	`vhaarr`	`like NeoTron said`
`23:19.52`	`Xuerian`	`kergoth: Yeah, "Item" bars, same concept though :p`
`23:20.02`	`kergoth`	`you can set a bar's color, but only via bar.texture:Setblah`
`23:20.10`	`kergoth`	`and bar.bgtexture:Setblah if you want to mess with the background`
`23:20.24`	`kergoth`	`adding a method would be easy enough`
`23:20.34`	`vhaarr`	`either that or document it somewhere`
`23:20.38`	`vhaarr`	`above the :SetColorAt function`
`23:21.21`	`kergoth`	`i think antiarc needs to make a policy decision on how much we want to expose via bar/barlist methods vs how much the user should be allowed to poke at members. you can hide the timer text with bar.label:HIde() or somesuch, but ..`
`23:21.39`	`Antiarc`	`Generally, I don't want people to have to mess with internals`
`23:21.48`	`Antiarc`	`So if there's a common case there should be a method for it.`
`23:21.56`	`Antiarc`	`Mostly because that gets into messy recycling issues.`
`23:22.07`	`kergoth`	`ah, right`
`23:22.12`	`NeoTron`	`before when you set the color, it kept changing the color itself when the value changes`
`23:22.16`	`NeoTron`	`is that no longer the casE?`
`23:22.52`	`NeoTron`	`already messes with internals...`
`23:23.16`	`NeoTron`	`I move the timer label when I put the target/focus triangles on the bar`
`23:23.30`	`kergoth`	`looks like if your bar list has a gradmap, the setcolorat stuff, you cant override that per bar`
`23:24.31`	`NeoTron`	`so if I don't use SetColorAt at all, it won't change colors?`
`23:25.01`	`kergoth`	`looks like it, if the map exists and #map > 0, it uses it in UpdateColor (called by SetValue)`
`23:25.20`	`kergoth`	`not sure`
`23:26.47`	`breser`	`Someone happen to know if there's a lock/unlock type button in the Blizzard UI art?`
`23:27.42`	`NeoTron`	`I can remove it then`
`23:28.14`	`CIA-42`	`03kergoth * r74097 10/branches/LibBars-1.0/TODO: Add a TODO.`
`23:31.56`	`hypetech`	`um. if my bartender config panel gets moved off screen, how can I get it back to the center? :(`
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`23:37.11`	`CIA-42`	`03endeavour * r74098 10Endeavours_BossStatus/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`23:37.11`	`CIA-42`	`Endeavours_BossStatus: initial commit`
`23:37.11`	`CIA-42`	`- Checking boss HP without being actually in a raid instance or targeting that boss`
`23:37.12`	`CIA-42`	`- it's a pre-beta, don't expect that much`
`23:39.54`	Funkeh`	`that's an alpha, fyi`
`23:41.37`	`CIA-42`	`03endeavour * r74099 10Endeavours_BossStatus/:`
`23:41.37`	`CIA-42`	`Endeavours_BossStatus: initial commit`
`23:41.37`	`CIA-42`	`- Checking boss HP without being actually in a raid instance or targeting that boss`
`23:41.37`	`CIA-42`	`- it's an alpha, (/wave Funkeh), don't expect that much`
`23:41.37`	`CIA-42`	`- updated externals`
`23:42.35`	`Vulcanus`	`hypetech: reload your UI`
`23:42.46`	`hypetech`	`Vulcanus: ya I got it, ty :p`
`23:43.11`	`Vulcanus`	`in a way I like how it doesn't clamp to screen, but only draggable by the title bar = uncool`
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`23:46.18`	`CIA-42`	`03sayclub 07GridStatusRaid * r74100 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (7 files in 2 dirs):`
`23:46.18`	`CIA-42`	`GridStatusRaid :`
`23:46.18`	`CIA-42`	`- Timer bugfix`
`23:46.56`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> 1==1 or 1==2 and 1==2`
`23:46.56`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: true`
`23:47.22`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> (1==1 or 1==2) and 1==2`
`23:47.22`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: false`
`23:48.06`	`Xinhuan`	`lua> 1==2 or 1==1 and 1==2`
`23:48.06`	`lua_bot`	`Xinhuan: false`
`23:48.51`	`kergoth`	`and has higher precendence than or, clearly`
`23:48.52`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`23:49.20`	`ckknight`	`does it? or is it just right-to-left`
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`23:50.08`	`Xinhuan`	`or has the lowest priority`
`23:50.09`	`CIA-42`	`03xinhuan * r74101 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Fix order of precedence of operators issue that is causing SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL events to get ignored.`
`23:50.35`	`CIA-42`	`03zeksie * r74102 10ZOMGBuffs/ (ZOMGBuffs.lua ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua):`
`23:50.35`	`CIA-42`	`ZOMGBuffs:`
`23:50.35`	`CIA-42`	`- Possible fix for blessings lazyness (sometimes not buffing).`
`23:50.35`	`CIA-42`	`- No more duplicate reagent use messages please.`
`23:50.45`	`Xinhuan`	`that was the issue`
`23:50.58`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: it isnt right to left. a and b or c only evaluates to c if both a and b are true`
`23:51.10`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`23:51.13`	`ckknight`	`wasn't sure how lua did it`
`23:51.22`	`ckknight`	`if I mix ands and ors, I always use parentheses anyway`
`23:51.24`	`Xinhuan`	`"and" has the second lowest priority`
`23:51.35`	`ckknight`	`except when I use it as a fake ternary`
`23:51.37`	`Xinhuan`	`anyway, i added the brackets and periodic heals will actually count for threat again`
`23:52.02`	`kergoth`	`i suck at remembering precendence, in any language`
`23:52.13`	`kergoth`	`almost always end up with more parens than i need`
`23:52.18`	`Zeksie`	`same`
`23:53.19`	`Nandini`	`plus, parentheses help with readability, too`
`23:53.39`	`Nandini`	`it helps other people looking at your code understand exactly what you're thinking, at a glance`
`23:53.40`	`ckknight`	`Nandini: depends on the situation`
`23:53.49`	`ckknight`	`but for and/or stuff, yes, I'd say`
`23:53.53`	`Dashkal`	`parens are good. Having to memorize the precidence table for every language (and they seem to always differ slightly) is not fun.`
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`23:54.21`	`kergoth`	`Nandini: people whose editors dont highlight matching paren on mouseover of a paren wont thank you for deeply nesting them :)`
`23:54.27`	`kergoth`	`but then, those people should get better editors anyway`
`23:54.47`	`Dashkal`	`I don't even trust languages to get BEDMAS (* and / before + and -) correctly anymore`
`23:54.52`	`Nandini`	`true, if it's a lot of otherwise obvious simple math operations, parentheses might just clutter it up`
`23:55.39`	`Dashkal`	`On the other hand, if you find yourself nesting more than three levels the expression may be getting a lil complex (lisp and co notwithstanding)`
`23:56.08`	`Xinhuan`	`i sometimes half wonder if putting ( ) around expressions in Lua will slow down the code at all, since ( ) is THE method to truncate multiple values down to 1 value`
`23:56.29`	`Xinhuan`	`so if its already 1 value, does it evaluate it again?`
`23:56.41`	`Xinhuan`	`after all to access the string metatable, you still have to () around the string literal`
`23:56.43`	`Nandini`	`yup, sometimes those things might be more readable on separate lines, since with that level of nesting, you are probably contemplating a longer step-by-step operation`
`23:56.43`	`kergoth`	`i'd think itd be resolved in the compilation phase.. lua dosent optimize much, but i'd think itd handl that right`
`23:56.46`	`kergoth`	`easily checked with luac though`
`23:57.00`	`Xinhuan`	`("abc"):gsub()`
`23:57.02`	`Xinhuan`	`for eg`
`23:57.04`	`Xinhuan`	`you can't do`
`23:57.09`	`Xinhuan`	`"abc":gsub() directly`
`23:57.34`	`Dashkal`	`I just checked with lua. (4) + 3 is the same as 4 + 3`
`23:57.41`	`Xinhuan`	`i wonder if that is just a compiler issue for syntax checking`
`23:57.53`	`Xinhuan`	`what about return values Dashkal`
`23:58.01`	`Xinhuan`	`change the 4 into a function`
`23:58.08`	`Xinhuan`	`and have the function return 1 or 2 values`
`23:58.16`	`kergoth`	`i'm suer a (foo()) will be different than foo() even if foo only ever returns one value, cause it cant make that determination at compile time`
`23:58.18`	`kergoth`	`nod`
`23:59.40`	`Xinhuan`	`oh yeah, weird question, if you get DIed, does PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED get fired?`
`23:59.44`	`Dashkal`	`(foo(1)) + 3 came out the same as foo(1) + 3`
`23:59.49`	`Xinhuan`	`since you're supposed to leave combat`

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