IRC log for #wowace on 20080513

00:00.03DARKGuyXuerian, me too
00:00.07dylanmAlert, Funkeh`, alert.
00:00.09vhaarryeah MailFu doesn't require FUBar
00:00.26DARKGuyhow do you make it show anywhere else outside the minimap?
00:00.27XuerianI just want to see who sent me new mail in the tooltip like the minimap tooltip
00:00.36DARKGuyloves his minimap clean
00:00.40Funkeh`dylanm, ??
00:00.45XuerianI have no buttons on it if possible
00:01.03dylanmFunkeh`: You need a mail block! For world domination!
00:01.05CIA-4103ackis * r73629 10AltTabber/:
00:01.05CIA-41AltTabber:
00:01.05CIA-41- LibStub -> Branches
00:01.29CIA-4103ackis * r73630 10Querier/:
00:01.29CIA-41Querier:
00:01.29CIA-41- LibStub -> Branches
00:01.37Funkeh`dylanm, I think silverstorm is making that
00:01.45dylanmNeato.
00:01.56CIA-4103ackis * r73631 10TIRaid/:
00:01.56CIA-41TIRaid:
00:01.56CIA-41- LibStub -> Branches
00:02.03Ackishi
00:02.21XuerianWell hai
00:03.18DARKGuyhola
00:03.19XuerianDARKGuy: Hell, it still uses table.getn...
00:03.27DARKGuyXuerian, THE HORROR
00:03.29Xueriancloses the AA lua file >_>;
00:03.34dylanmLook. That's a good function.
00:03.37DARKGuy<.<... hey I was about to end up using it
00:03.48DARKGuybut then I realized I could use #mytable
00:03.53elite3vil[19:46] <Gnarfoz> wth who broke Incubator <-- What's broken about it?
00:04.21Gnarfoznothing, it seems it just broke itself temporarily. killing SV helped
00:05.25Gnarfoz~pastey
00:05.26purlrumour has it, pastey is the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. Look at the topic of the channel you're in to see if they have a specific pastey.net they like to use, otherwise, you can use whatever you want -- yournick.pastey.net, flood.pastey.net, or just pastey.net. Go to one of these URLs, insert the text, press the 'Paste' button, and copy & paste the resulting URL in the channel you were about
00:05.37Gnarfozpastey = down? oO
00:05.51CIA-4103schelli * r73632 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/ (4 files): FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua : added manual item add functionality
00:05.57Gnarfoz~nopaste
00:05.57purlit has been said that nopaste is http://nopaste.snit.ch/ or http://pastebin.com/, or preferably http://pastebin.ca/
00:06.26Gnarfozelite3vil: error was: http://nopaste.snit.ch/12946
00:06.36NivFreakanyone know how long it took the last blizzcon to sell out?
00:06.53Gnarfozalso: http://www.divinecaroline.com/article/32719/49405-getting-know-neighborhood is awesome
00:06.59XuerianWhy people pay to go to blizzcon is beyond me
00:08.34XuerianGnarfoz: lol
00:09.09vhaarrwhat a clever bunch commenting on that blog post
00:09.15DARKGuyyeah
00:09.16vhaarr"you're friend is looking for ..."
00:09.20Dashkalmmm, that blizzcon is tempting.. I was already planning on a vacation right about then...
00:09.21vhaarr"Judging buy"
00:09.26vhaarr"crappy neighborhood "
00:09.48vhaarrthese guys are americans
00:09.53DashkalAnd I'll pay cash for first-hand exposure to all that stuff.  WotLK? SC2 (assuming it isn't released by then)?  Diablo 3 info?  Yes
00:09.56vhaarrhow can you suck at your own language
00:10.03DARKGuyon another note, anybody knows how do I get my current inbox items without having to open the mailbox? I mean, mailfu does it without opening the mailbox :/
00:10.09DARKGuyhaha
00:10.21DARKGuyi dno i lrn2rite lyk i spel
00:10.38vhaarrlol
00:10.43DARKGuyvhaarr, hey, human stupidity has no boundaries :P
00:11.21GnarfozDARKGuy: it only knows "new mail yes/no", not content. at least not until you actually go to a mailbox
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00:12.57kenlyricyeah, blizzard completely fails at mail
00:13.01Xuerianvhaarr: Go to digg
00:13.05kenlyricthere should be mailbox access at the login screen
00:13.15Xuerianvhaarr: The "People should learn english if they want to live in the US" posts are hilarious
00:13.22ShirikGnarfoz: It also knows who it's from
00:13.24XuerianSeeing as most of them miss-spell "English"
00:13.48ShirikXuerian: Most brits misspell "color"
00:13.55GnarfozShirik: if it does, it doesn't display that info...
00:13.57kenlyricsilly. people who live in the US have never learned English
00:13.57XuerianShirik: qft
00:14.04kenlyrictheir children do
00:14.09ShirikGnarfoz: Sure it does
00:14.13Shirikever hovered over the mail icon?
00:14.19Gnarfozyes.
00:14.28Shirikand it says "Unread mail from: Foo"
00:14.36Gnarfozno...
00:14.37Gnarfozlol
00:14.41Shirikit does for me :P
00:14.50Shirikor "Unread mail from: Horde Auction House"
00:14.59Gnarfoz~failrik
00:15.00purlFAIL, Shirik, FAIL!
00:15.09Gnarfozit detects AH mail in a totally different way
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00:15.21Gnarfozand that's the only case where it knows beforehand who mail is from
00:15.23DARKGuyI think I'm gonna go give a look at MailFu
00:15.37ShirikGnarfoz: No, it knows people too
00:15.39Gnarfozbecause it simply watches "you won an auction for xyz"
00:15.52Gnarfozwell, for me, if I get mail, it just shows "New Mail 1/1"
00:15.53DARKGuyI lose at auctions :P
00:16.12Gnarfozshirik secretly is the dev of MailFu2
00:16.30DARKGuySo I can beat him?
00:16.40DARKGuy:D
00:17.05LywellynMailFu2?  And heya Dark.
00:17.28Gnarfozit doesn't even have translations/text for "Unread mail from: "
00:17.29DARKGuyhey Lywellyn ^_^
00:19.52Shirikbleh, I can't find it right now Gnarfoz
00:19.57Shirikbut I know I don't have any mail addons installed P
00:20.04Gnarfozerr
00:20.11Gnarfozdoes that include MailFu?
00:20.12Gnarfoz:p
00:23.02CIA-4103apoco 07v2 * r73633 10RBM/RBM_TotemWatch/TotemWatch.lua: RBM_TotemWatch: -- Update to 2.4...a bit late?
00:24.29kenlyricBadges of Death
00:24.33kenlyricincoming
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00:26.54GnarfozShirik: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/mailfu.jpg
00:27.31Shirikwell see now, whose fault is that
00:27.39Shirikyou don't have the default mail minimap button :P
00:28.33Gnarfozso... we're talking about MailFu and you barge in and say BLAHBLAH it does that, while you weren't even thinking about the same topic? :p
00:28.42Shirikhm?
00:28.43Gnarfozalso, default button doesn't do it, either
00:28.52Shirikyes it does, and that's not what I said
00:29.19Gnarfoz... you said it knows who mail is from, without checking an actual mailbox
00:29.21Gnarfozit doesn't.
00:29.31Shirikwell it certainly knows
00:29.40Shirikwhether or not it chooses to display that is open to interpretation
00:29.43Gnarfozwho the hell cares if it knows when it doesn't display? :p
00:29.53Shirikand the default button certainly displays that information
00:29.58Gnarfozit doesn't
00:30.06Shirikthen who hacked my screen?
00:30.18Gnarfozonly after visiting the damn mailbox.
00:30.35Shirikthat's odd. I don't think I visit mailboxes in BT
00:30.41Gnarfoz(easily checked: relog. it will forget who mail is from)
00:30.43Shirikthere could be one I don't know about though
00:32.18Shirikso one of two things is happening here
00:32.20Shiriksorry, one of three
00:32.29DARKGuyGnarfoz, does it show total: 1 when you do a /reloadui and don't have the mailbox open ?
00:32.45Shirikeither (a) I have some third party tool that hacks the wow servers to forcefully retrieve that information that I don't know about
00:32.46Gnarfozhttp://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/mail_blizz.jpg < before -- after > http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/mail_blizz_open.jpg
00:33.01Shirik(b) There's a mailbox in BT that I am subconsiously opening
00:33.13Gnarfozcertainly it must be (b)
00:33.16Shirikor (c) one of us is misremembering things
00:33.28ShirikConsidering this happened last night most recently, I doubt I'm misremembering anything
00:33.51Gnarfozwell, anyway
00:33.59Shirikbut this is a pointless argument
00:34.05Gnarfozthis wasn't about default blizz mail to begin with, so whatever is the case
00:34.24Gnarfoz...I'm gonna go watch BSG
00:34.36Gnarfozblergh not finished, yet :\
00:34.40DARKGuyhey so
00:34.48DARKGuythe default blizzard can know if there are unread mail
00:34.52DARKGuyhow do I do that then?
00:36.06Gnarfozregister for MAIL_INBOX_UPDATE and check GetInboxNumItems()
00:36.17Gnarfozlike MailFu does on line 349 - 353
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00:38.39hypetechAnybody here know/use MagicDKP?
00:38.48DARKGuyGnarfoz, thanks :P
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00:50.34hypetechnobody? :-\
00:51.30ApocoGnarfoz:  Whats that mod that says how much of your life you have waisted.
00:51.46GnarfozApoco: it's vhaarr's most awesome LifePercent
00:52.24Apocoty
00:53.05Gnarfozbtw vhaarr, was it ever intended to replace every and all calls to /played? from when I read the code back when I first installed it, it seemed to have functionality to allow the original /played to be shown somehow, too
00:53.31NivFreakugg, 122 days on just my main
00:53.39NivFreak84 days at 70
00:53.53NivFreak<PROTECTED>
00:54.13JoshBorkeGnarfoz: it does
00:54.20JoshBorkeGnarfoz: read the help on it
00:54.47Gnarfozreading help > reading code? right. it's probably easier to understand. :P
00:55.43Gnarfozactually, what help
00:55.45Gnarfoz:D
00:56.22JoshBorkehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8316-LifePercent.html
00:56.26JoshBorkeLifePercent replaces the default "time played" message, if you want to show the original one, you need to execute '/lifepercent played'.
00:57.08Gnarfozwell, who uses addon release pages!
00:57.08Gnarfoz:D
00:57.29GnarfozI just added support for different release dates to it and never touched it since :D
00:58.14CIA-4103ackis * r73634 10TIRaid/ (. TIRaid.lua):
00:58.14CIA-41TIRaid:
00:58.14CIA-41- Sort raid attendance alphabetically
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00:59.25CIA-4103ackis * r73635 10TIRaid/embeds.xml:
00:59.25CIA-41TIRaid:
00:59.25CIA-41- Update embeds my bad
01:01.25XuerianAckis: Having fun?
01:01.33XuerianGnarfoz: What are documents?
01:01.44Xuerians/are documents/is documentation/
01:01.55AckisI'm always having fun
01:02.03GnarfozXuerian: dunno, see above
01:02.17Gngskwonder how many times 'my bad' has been in a commit msg
01:02.42Ackisso I've never had to schedule events to occur in an add-on... if I want something to occur every X minutes where would I start to look?
01:03.15GngskScheduleRepeatingEvent() ?
01:03.51Gnarfozyeah, if you're using a framework that provides event scheduling, then what Gngsk said. Else: OnUpdate + your own timer handling
01:04.16AckisI'm assumingthat would be in AceEvent-3.0
01:04.22GnarfozGngsk: I'd say about as much as "zhCN update", "drycoded" and "die translators, die!"
01:04.30Xuerian^
01:04.38AckisHey, don't mock my dry-codes
01:05.21Gnarfozno wai, I'd never.
01:05.29Ackis:P
01:05.44Gnarfozsrsly, how could I fuck up bidding on t6 helmet today :\
01:05.47XuerianHe who is free of sin cast the first stone XD
01:06.16Gnarfoztwo of my kind, 2 highest bids win... and I top my own bid twice without noticing I'm still below the current 2nd highest bid >_>
01:06.17CIA-4103ackis * r73636 10Querier/ (. embeds.xml):
01:06.17CIA-41Querier:
01:06.17CIA-41- Update embeds
01:06.29Xuerianhaha.
01:06.49CIA-4103ackis * r73637 10AltTabber/ (. embeds.xml):
01:06.49CIA-41AltTabber:
01:06.49CIA-41- Update embeds
01:06.53Gnarfozthen we first kill Shahraz and she has 3x conqueror. BLEH
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01:07.21Gnarfozwhat a downer that was
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01:14.21HjalteI'm waiting for t6 legs, conqueror, and they haven't dropped in two weeks. I bet you have conqueror at council too :(
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01:17.22CIA-4103Bangerz * r73638 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/ (Bang!LibramSwap.lua Bang!_Libram_Swap.toc):
01:17.22CIA-41Bang!_Libram_Swap:
01:17.22CIA-41-Fixed recast issue in retribution mode, tightened dps rotation, added additional gcd protection in ret/prot mode.
01:18.33CIA-4103Bangerz * r73639 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/localization.lua:
01:18.33CIA-41Bang!_Libram_Swap:
01:18.33CIA-41-...and French localization added. go file go!
01:19.25CIA-4103kemayo * r73640 10Gratz/addon.lua: Gratz: The announce for guild join/part should say "guild", not "friend"
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01:20.59dibsOkay, stupidest question of the night: Where do I look if I want to learn how I make it possible to move candybars?
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01:27.13DARKGuyI wonder if Tekkub doesn't mind if I grab some code of FuBar_MailFu, modify it and make it non-fubar dependable?
01:27.48TekkubDARKGuy, http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/
01:28.03XuerianDARKGuy: He has no problem re-writing other people's code, I don't see why you should :P
01:28.06Tekkubdo that I don't don't give a fuck
01:28.28Tekkubname it "MailFu Reborn" and I'll hate you
01:28.33DARKGuyHeh, thanks Tekkub
01:28.34DARKGuylol no way
01:28.36Xuerian(Do it do it do it XD)
01:28.41DARKGuyI was actually gonna name it VisualMail :p
01:29.01TekkubMaleBox-
01:29.37Gnarfozthat's quite gender oriented
01:30.01DARKGuywhat if girls would like to have a male-in-a-box ?
01:30.09Chaudthis camera is creepy
01:30.13DARKGuyj/k :P
01:30.15Gnarfozdick-in-a-box
01:30.16ChaudI am watching people pump gas
01:30.18DARKGuyrofl
01:30.18Tenchworkslol
01:30.29Chaudhttp://towercam.colusanet.com/home/homeJ.html
01:30.40Tenchworkso.O?
01:30.59Gnarfozgoogling network enabled cameras ftw
01:31.11Chaudsome wireless ISP has their camera on a tower unsecured
01:31.14DARKGuythat camera looks very unrealistic
01:31.21Chaudnot really
01:31.24Chaudill go to the car wash
01:31.35Tenchworkswhoa
01:31.40DARKGuycar wash :o
01:31.44Chaudhot chicks and van
01:31.48Chaudmaybe
01:31.51DARKGuywhite van?
01:31.55Chaudwtf is that guy doing rofl
01:32.08Tenchworksis there candy in that van?
01:32.10Chaudtrying to rip the hose out of the ceiling
01:32.18Chaudfgts you are slowing down my fps
01:32.28DARKGuyxD
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01:32.55Chauddef bookmarking this cam for some lulz
01:33.00Chaudwhere in the US is it still light out?
01:33.07chiperthis is a little strange
01:33.14chiperhow did you find this?
01:33.22ChaudI am a god.
01:33.31ChaudNOES SOMEONE STOLE CONTROL
01:33.35DARKGuyholy zoom
01:33.37ChaudGO BACK TO WATCHING PEOPLE
01:33.46Chaudyou can draw a box to zoom in to that spot
01:33.52Tenchworkswell it's dark here on the east coast (connecticut)
01:34.22ChaudROFL
01:34.25chiperhey yeah, where is this camera
01:34.34chiperit's already dark here in CA
01:34.37Chaudits in the US, they have US street signs
01:34.39DARKGuythat camera is scary while watching it with Shattrath city's background ambient sounds
01:34.50Chaudgo back to the guys working on the car IMO
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01:34.59Tenchworksthis is sooo bookmarked
01:35.01DARKGuymaybe it'll explode
01:35.13ChaudI cant wait for a non windy day
01:35.15CIA-41037destiny * r73641 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: koKR Update
01:35.16Chaudthis camera is nice
01:35.23chiperthat's a california license plate
01:35.37chipercan you zoom any further?
01:35.51chipercatch the plate number :D
01:35.52ChaudColusa county CA
01:36.21Chaudalso been watching these security guards, but they are boring http://203.81.32.125/indexFrame.shtml?newstyle=Quad
01:36.45Tenchworks?_?
01:36.49DARKGuyomfg.
01:36.57Tenchworksyoiu have a thing for unprotected cameras?
01:37.00kenlyricsometthing tells me that isn't suppose to be on the internet
01:37.14DARKGuyI'll take note to never have a webserver for a closed camera service :P
01:37.21ApocoMuru down!
01:37.23DARKGuythis guy is scarier than the camera itself
01:37.54Chaudwow
01:37.57Chaudthose security guards
01:38.01Chaudare guarding some servers
01:38.06Chaudhttp://203.81.32.125/indexFrame.shtml?newstyle=One&cam=3
01:38.47kenlyriceight hours ahead of UTC
01:38.52kenlyricindia?
01:39.25DARKGuywell the guards aren't pale white, racism aside.
01:39.33DARKGuyo,o
01:39.37ChaudI found a factory http://218.24.161.254/
01:39.41Chaudwhat are they making
01:39.49DARKGuycandles!
01:39.52Chaudoh
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01:39.56Chaudwow im bad
01:39.57DARKGuywell it says so
01:40.14Tenchworkshow are you finding these things?
01:40.23DARKGuyhe prays to Saint Google
01:40.29Tenchworksbrowsing the web during raid wipes?
01:40.32XuerianWho's controlling the car wash camera >_>
01:40.35DARKGuyrofl
01:40.36Chaudme
01:40.41Xuerianstop jerking it XD
01:40.46Xuerianbahaha you creep
01:40.50Chaudlook at them
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01:40.54Tenchworkslol
01:40.54Chaudso innocent
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01:41.05Chaudflat tire or something?
01:41.13DARKGuyyup
01:41.15XuerianYou'd think, yet the hood is up
01:41.22Chaudmaybe just an old car
01:41.23DARKGuyxD
01:41.49kenlyricI was close
01:41.51kenlyricSingapore
01:41.58ChaudUPS
01:41.59DARKGuycrazy
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01:42.10DARKGuyups? no, they deliver dps
01:42.22DARKGuythat's a truck full of rogues I say
01:42.23kenlyricutility per second
01:42.38Tenchworks./cry
01:42.59Tenchworksi know people who hate rogues becuase they say we have no utility
01:43.00ChaudDAMM WHOEVER STOLE IT!
01:43.09Tenchworkswoot
01:43.21Chaudgo go find something intresting
01:43.49DarkElfspeaking of rogues do throwing weapons ever drop?
01:44.31DARKGuyI wouldn't think so, hey, which boss is gonna give you 200 knives just so you throw them out
01:44.38hypetechvhaarr: ping
01:44.43Chaudthey have a box with their name on the tower
01:44.46DARKGuyunless you can repair them, like Diablo II's javelines :P
01:44.46DashkalIllhoof drops one
01:44.50DashkalYou can
01:44.50Tenchworkswhat is this on? a cellphone tower?
01:45.02DARKGuyoO damn, I'm so out of this world today
01:45.09DARKGuynoo
01:45.12DashkalThey did that in 2.2 or 2.3
01:45.13DARKGuyhe washed the camera
01:45.14DashkalI forget
01:45.14DARKGuy:(
01:45.22Chaudwireless broadband tower
01:45.35elite3vilDarkElf: We got the trash thrown weapon in Sunwell x3 the other night
01:45.52Tenchworksshrug baclk to the car wash
01:46.12Chaudgod you are bad at zoom
01:46.21Tenchworksthat better?
01:46.25DARKGuyxD
01:46.26ChaudWHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE WINDY
01:46.53DARKGuydamn, hot chicks go wash your car now!
01:46.54DARKGuyomg.
01:47.10Tenchworksi lose control in 55 secs
01:47.33Tenchworkslol the river is saved as club taliban
01:47.53Chaudyeah, not sure how that works
01:48.20Tenchworksmaybe on the border?
01:48.23DarkElfgonna say i got upto level 13 as rogue and never seen any on monsters just at some npc, why the game favors the other classes is beyond me
01:48.33DARKGuyI find it funny that the camera is in a tower, and the car wash is called "TOwer car wash"
01:48.37Tenchworksand I no longer control the camera
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01:48.43Tenchworksyou ppl have fun with it
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01:49.23Chaudsomeone look at the people cleaning their cars on the right
01:49.39Chaudwhoever has control pro up and use it
01:50.13Tenchworksdid you re-request control?
01:50.21Chaudyes
01:50.26Chaudim waiting =(
01:50.50XuerianSo someone jacked the camera and is bogarting the controls? XD
01:50.54Tenchworkshehe I find it interesting that it has a queue system for control, it may be intentionally left open for other poelp to use
01:51.09Tenchworks*people
01:51.18XuerianClick the home button
01:51.22XuerianGives more details about it
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01:51.56Chaudyeah, it was
01:52.41Tenchworksawww they left the carwash
01:53.06XuerianA 30 minute queue? bah
01:53.15Chaudfound a whole thread of them http://kalleboo.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/42/42b5ed786562bfe8a8fb1342c583e9c2b59ca73d.jpg
01:53.16Chaudrofl
01:53.27Xuerianlol
01:53.37Tenchworkslol
01:53.41XuerianWhat is this, a hobby? "Camera-watching"
01:53.46hypetechlol
01:54.36Chaudoh god
01:54.45Chaudthey saw those guards from earlier watching porn
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01:55.17Moozhis this the correct place to ask a UI question?
01:55.42Chaudno, this is the camera watcher channel
01:55.46DARKGuyrofl
01:55.47Tenchworkslol
01:56.10Tenchworksshoot away, you might get an answer you might not
01:56.23Dashkal~asktoask
01:56.24purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
01:56.30DARKGuysad thing is that both thr question and the answer are true :P
01:56.33DARKGuy*the
01:56.56Moozhi'm really not big on customizing my UI, but I found a package of skins that i'd like to use in unitframes/buffbars, etc.
01:57.10Moozhexcept i don't know how to make said mods (elk buff bars, for example) use the textures
01:57.11XuerianSkins?
01:57.19Moozhtextures would be a better word
01:57.24XuerianFind the MyMedia thread in the general addons forum
01:57.25Xuerianmake the addon
01:57.30Xuerianput the textures in it as described
01:57.34Xuerian(Unless they're in a addon already)
01:57.42XuerianThen select the textures in the options for each addon
01:57.43Xuerianor
01:57.47Xueriantry surfacecontrol, it might still work
01:58.30Gnarfozis it weird that to find it and stuff made of PMC I type "primal moo" into the AH search mask? :D
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02:01.43CIA-4103ackis * r73642 10Querier/ (. Querier.lua embeds.xml):
02:01.43CIA-41Querier:
02:01.43CIA-41- Add some safe item queriering checking stuffz
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02:02.29Moozhi think i just found what i was looking for
02:02.31MoozhSharedMedia
02:03.09Tenchworksyou read the thread?
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02:03.36XuerianWhoever is working the camera
02:03.36Xuerianyou suck
02:03.43Tenchworksjust be warned if you are adding your own textures to sharedmedia, then updating it could cause you to lose it/need you to edit it again
02:03.51XuerianOh hey wait that's interesting
02:04.02XuerianA school =O
02:04.08Tenchworksnope
02:04.15Tenchworksit's labeled as a casino
02:04.19XuerianMoozh: Seriously, find the MyMedia thread by Seerah in the general addons forum
02:04.25XuerianMoozh: it's made specifically for this
02:04.27Xuerianoh?
02:04.32Moozhreading the instructions now
02:04.47Tenchworkshttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6063.0            is the thread Xuerian is atalking about
02:04.53Tenchworksoh nvm
02:04.54Chaudwhat do you supposed this place is http://66.17.2.250/home/homeJ.html
02:04.56XuerianBad tench :O
02:05.00Xuerianyou're supposed to let them find it
02:05.04Moozhkek
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02:05.10Tenchworkshehe
02:05.12CIA-4103funkydude * r73643 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist
02:05.23Tenchworksi was interested in it my self
02:05.38Moozhthe instructions are a mess though
02:06.14Moozhoh
02:06.18XuerianNo they aren't
02:06.22XuerianMake the folder/file
02:06.24ChaudROFL
02:06.25Xuerianpaste files
02:06.28Xuerianedit first tile
02:06.29Xueriandone
02:06.30Chaudit is some computer service company
02:06.37Chaudwho leaves their cam unsecured
02:06.38XuerianChaud: holy shit
02:06.40XuerianThat's big o_0
02:06.40Chaudbookmarking
02:06.48NivFreakfuck
02:06.53NivFreakgem vendor opened
02:07.00NivFreakserver crashes while I'm in hyjal
02:07.02NivFreakhate....
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02:07.20ChaudARRC Technology is stupid
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02:07.38XuerianChaud: ahahaha
02:07.42XuerianThe camera IN the store
02:07.44Chaudlook at those prices
02:07.45Xuerianrofl
02:07.48Chaudjesus ripoff
02:07.52Xuerianholy fuck
02:07.53Chaud2k for a pos laptop
02:07.56ajmitchserver crashes at raid time seem to be almost a daily occurrence lately
02:08.23NivFreakI'm just glad this SSO shit will be over
02:08.54Chaudrouters for sale mang
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02:10.26Peoiiugh...
02:10.55PeoiiTime to beat some heads in on some apps...  mages who don't know how to efficiently scorch need to be shot.
02:10.56Chaudthey are microsoft certified!
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02:11.14NivFreakI love that it's 30 mins before I can log back in after a crash...
02:11.19Chaudhow is it still light in cali
02:11.26XuerianChaud: Srsly
02:11.36Mooz1is -- how you comment out in lua?
02:11.53Xuerianhttp://www.arrc.com/ o_0
02:11.54DARKGuyyes MoonWork
02:11.57DARKGuy... Mooz1
02:11.58Xuerianyes moo
02:12.03Mooz1kk
02:12.07Vozmosless confusion now
02:12.08DARKGuyxD
02:12.37ChaudI wish I could move that box
02:13.03Chaudmicrosoft loves them apparently
02:13.11Xuerian"Do you want your computer technician to install a security camera, and leave open access to it online? Pick us!"
02:13.34Chauddid someone just walk by?
02:14.33Xueriandecent rez camera at least
02:14.43Chaudhlep
02:14.49Chaudare you moving it?
02:14.54XuerianNo
02:14.57Chaudwtf
02:15.06Chaudwhy is it black and white
02:15.15XuerianHahaha I wonder if they saw the camera moving
02:15.18Chaudrofl
02:15.35XuerianDoubt it, seems more like somene dicking around with the camera again...
02:16.38Chaudrofl
02:16.48Chaudbookmarked
02:16.54Tenchworks?
02:17.01Chaudhttp://66.17.2.250/home/homeJ.html
02:17.07Tenchworkswhich camera you looking... nvm
02:17.11Chaudsome computer store
02:17.15Chaudsomeone else is controling it
02:17.17XuerianWoo another one
02:17.20ChaudFESS UP
02:17.33XuerianCaaables
02:18.14Tenchworksbah it froze on me
02:18.23Chaudcant wait for when they are open tomorrow
02:18.29Tenchworkslol
02:18.48Xuerianlol
02:19.40Xuerianhey I wonder if there's a default password...
02:20.24Chaudrofl
02:20.27Gnarfozvuln-dev default password list needs camera default passwords
02:21.31Xuerianhttp://209.85.215.104/search?q=cache:_wWlHhGu_4QJ:www.orkutrix.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D12%26t%3D16%26p%3D1004+sony+network+camera+rz30+default+password&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us&client=firefox-a
02:21.36XuerianBig link XD
02:22.26Tenchworksinsta-saved
02:22.27Xuerianall hail the internet http://defaultpassword.com/?action=dpl&char=s
02:22.28elite3vilwewt. t6 bracers.
02:22.50NivFreakI was robbed of my t6
02:22.52NivFreakfreaking server
02:22.58XuerianAww, that shop changed the password.
02:23.06XuerianNivFreak: Petition?
02:23.32NivFreak"Dear GMs, please give me any prot t6 tokens that would have dropped if your servers had not crashed and our raid canceled"
02:24.12XuerianPetition as a guild
02:24.14Chaudhttp://meeped.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/2d/2df60a57e780a02f3be591bdf35e8fc27dc35085.png
02:24.28XuerianXD
02:24.28VozmosO.o
02:24.30Vozmosthat only took forever
02:24.48DARKGuyxD
02:25.39DARKGuyDisplaying 85 passwords of total 1337 entrys. is the 1337 intentional?
02:25.49Xuerianhttp://johnny.ihackstuff.com/ghdb.php?function=detail&id=349 o_0
02:25.54XuerianDARKGuy: Probably.
02:26.02DARKGuyXuerian, I hope :P
02:32.39Chaudwtf is going on here http://www.opentopia.com/showcam.php?camid=3510
02:33.08XuerianOh lord the bloom
02:33.11XuerianTHE BLOOM
02:33.15XuerianIt's like that vgcats comic
02:33.39Chauddamm
02:33.48Chaudthat lady in the jeans was standing there for like 5 min
02:35.39Chaudbookmark this one I guess http://blueroof.servehttp.com:86/CgiStart?page=Single&Resolution=640x480&Quality=Clarity&RPeriod=0&Size=STD&PresetOperation=Move&Language=0
02:35.43Chaudapparently someones house
02:35.52Tenchworkshmm i found a japanese radio station
02:35.55Tenchworkshttp://61.118.255.54:60002/MultiCameraFrame?Mode=Motion&Language=2
02:36.05Xueriano.0
02:36.05Chaudlovefm?
02:36.06Chaudyeah
02:36.39Chaudused to be a strippercam =(
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02:46.48elite3vilyay for 2shotting Kalecgos so I don't have to bitch about him for four hours.
02:47.15NivFreakI'll bitch about server stability instead
02:48.03DARKGuyHey
02:48.13DARKGuywhoever wanted to know from WHO was the latest email sent..
02:48.29DARKGuy<PROTECTED>
02:48.40DARKGuyyou can get up to three latest email received authors
02:49.24DARKGuyif s1 = nil then you have no new mail :D
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02:49.46DARKGuyAH can be a different issue though, but I'm happy with this
02:51.54CIA-4103Chorizotarian * r73644 10Undercut/ (Undercut.lua Undercut.toc):
02:51.54CIA-41Undercut:
02:51.54CIA-41- Fix externals error (missing AceHook-3.0)
02:51.54CIA-41- Remove unused externals
02:53.50DARKGuyNew mail # can be get with: HasNewMail()
02:53.51DARKGuy:P
02:54.05DARKGuySo in short, wowwiki does not have -all- of WoW API functions
02:54.34Chaudhttp://vs.comm.soft.iwate-pu.ac.jp/ViewerFrame?Mode=Motion&Resolution=640x480&Quality=Standard&Interval=10&Size=STD&PresetOperation=Move&Language=2
02:54.39Chaudfound a japan man
02:55.20DARKGuyI don't care about the man. Damn, that room looks sweet.
02:55.27DARKGuyI want that tv
02:55.28DARKGuyand billboard
02:55.30DARKGuyand laptop
02:55.44DARKGuyhe might be fun to watch tho :D
02:55.56DARKGuyoh wow
02:56.19ChaudOUT THE WINDOW!
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02:56.33Groktaromg @ eredar twins
02:56.33DARKGuyxD
02:56.41Groktarconflag on the ranged clump
02:56.42Groktarhahaha
02:56.43DARKGuyI wonder if the camera makes noise when moving
02:56.52Groktarvael flashbacks
02:57.03Chaudlots of computer boxes
02:57.12Chaudhe has a dell wtf
02:57.17DARKGuyxD
02:57.51DARKGuyTOO MUCH BLOOM
02:57.51DARKGuyxD
02:58.07DARKGuycan you zoom into his laptop? :O
02:58.31Chaudzoom is locked
02:58.34DARKGuydamn :p
03:00.23XuerianWhat is it with computer repair shops having open cameras :p
03:00.36Chaudhttp://72.192.160.103:8082/CgiStart?page=Single&Language=0
03:00.38Chaudoh shit
03:00.40Chaudold guy
03:01.05XuerianSomeone's personal camera? o_0
03:01.09Chaudwho knows
03:01.15Chaudwish his car wasnt in the way
03:01.20Dashkal"Lets open a computer shop." "But I don't know anything about computers!" "So?"
03:02.11Chaudwonder what he is doing
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03:03.49sag_ich_nichthey vhaarr badboy is breaking the rightclick/report spam button, inserting it's already reported cases into it. might wanna fix that. and my banmask.
03:03.59DARKGuypimpin' his car up
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03:04.25DARKGuywtf
03:05.19DARKGuyI say he's gonna use that bycicle wheel as steering wheel, he's gonna put that 14" crt to view some DVDs... and some toy legos he has laying around there :P
03:05.29DARKGuy*lying
03:05.31Chaudrofl
03:06.39DARKGuynah, he's too old for thinking in something like that
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03:07.03DARKGuyor he could! saying that the new generation uses LCDs and neons
03:07.11DARKGuyand he's gonna go retro
03:07.42Gnarfozwut
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03:07.58GnarfozI'm away for a few days and someone finally bans sag_ich_nicht? ;D
03:08.32MysticalOSare there any working cartographer trainers addons left?
03:08.49MysticalOStried trainers and nntrainer but they are both broken now
03:10.20Chauddamm those cameras
03:10.24Chaudforogt to get my alt points
03:10.49DARKGuyGnarfoz, heh, his name in german means "I say not"... google translate ftw! (they just changed their language selection box, now it's two dropboxes where you choose the from and to language, cool)
03:11.12GnarfozDARKGuy: no need to tell me, I'm german :p
03:11.32Gnarfozhe's Austrian, tho, and a major pain in the ass, too :p
03:11.34DARKGuyGnarfoz, ah, I imagined XD
03:11.36DARKGuylol
03:11.58DARKGuyhe looked like it ¬¬
03:12.10Groktar"sylaurae move"
03:12.15Groktar"cmooooooon"
03:12.17Groktarhehe
03:14.20Gnarfozhttp://i31.tinypic.com/t7y73k.gif
03:14.26Gnarfoz(sfw)
03:17.31DARKGuylol!
03:17.49DARKGuycivility
03:17.50DARKGuyxD
03:19.53MysticalOSah I found the problem, nntrainers added 3 new libraries to embed's, only, forgot to actually add the libraries :)
03:22.56Chaudfucking missed out on pug TK run because of cams as well =(
03:23.35Groktaranyone got the badge vendor on their servers?
03:23.40Groktar75% :(
03:24.06Chaudyou mean gem?
03:24.09Groktarya
03:24.10Groktarlol
03:24.12elite3vil90%
03:24.13MysticalOSwhisperwind has badge vendor
03:24.15DARKGuylol Chaud, you fail :P
03:24.24Chaudlike 60 realms have it
03:24.25Chaudl2p
03:24.28MysticalOSalready gems popping up on AH for about 300-500G
03:24.37Groktarthat's insane
03:24.50elite3vilOur glaive rogue's gear just broke mid-brut... he forgot to repair after kalecgos. =P
03:25.00Groktarthat's what we were selling for when we were the only guild in bt/hyjal
03:25.24Groktarwtb glaive rogue :(
03:25.57ajmitchcrazy people were trying to flog them off for 800-1000G when the vendor opened on khaz'goroth
03:26.00Chaudrofl
03:26.14CryectHaha
03:26.17Chaudour realm sold them for ~450g pre vendor
03:26.21Chaudbut not spinels
03:26.38Cryectyeah was getting ~500G for nonspinels before
03:27.07ChaudI obtained some shadowsongs for 350 each from friends =)
03:27.16Groktarour first illidan kill was december 6
03:27.19Groktarwe have 1 main hand
03:27.20Groktar:(
03:27.34elite3vilwe've got 1mh 2 oh
03:27.46DARKGuyHm, anybody knows if it's possible to make a frame "blink" a few times?
03:27.59Chaudwhat do I do, I can't force myself to level my warrior alt =\
03:28.01Gnarfozflash is the word
03:28.22CIA-4103Chorizotarian * r73645 10Undercut/:
03:28.22CIA-41Undercut:
03:28.22CIA-41- Update externals property to match TOC
03:28.29DARKGuyGnarfoz, oh, I didn't know "flash" was the term used in wow UI :P
03:28.33ChaudI already have access to a well geared warrior that I can play so I am too lazy to level it =(
03:28.35DARKGuy<.< or maybe it's my own fault
03:28.40DARKGuykicks his self-taught english
03:28.45Groktarhehe
03:28.51Groktari don't play my warrior anymore
03:29.05Groktari was mt through illidan
03:29.14Groktarnow we're gearing up my priest for sunwell
03:29.14Groktarhehe
03:29.29Gnarfozregardless of wow usage, I'd say blinking is something you do with your eyes :D ...although the non-standard HTML tag was called the same, hmmm
03:29.34ckknightDARKGuy: either blink or flash works, blink is more of an on/off whereas flash is more likely a gradient
03:29.46ckknighterr, not gradient
03:29.50DARKGuyo_O
03:29.50ckknighta gradual fade in/out
03:29.51DARKGuybloom? xD
03:30.00DARKGuyoh
03:30.16DARKGuyckknight, any would work for me I guess, I just need it to catch the user's attention, a lot.
03:30.27Nandinii wonder why every jewelcrafting pattern (worth having) is purchasable from a vendor now, but the same is not true of any other profession
03:30.33DARKGuyI had the idea of a cute blinking mail icon
03:30.35DARKGuy:P
03:31.05DARKGuythat would blink twice or such and change color (just a texture :P)
03:31.55DARKGuybut you can't have timers on WoW... since it's all event-driven
03:32.06ckknightyou can have timers
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03:32.17DARKGuyckknight, you can? how? Oo
03:32.25ckknightby abusing OnUpdate
03:32.44ckknightOnUpdate being a frame script that is called every time the frame is rendered
03:32.46Nandiniyou just base your timers on an event that you know is going to happen soon :) like OnUpdate
03:33.11DARKGuyI was thinking in a counter loop instead, but maybe that wouldn't be very "realtime"... in a 800Mhz "three 1-second blink" could last 3 seconds whereas in a quad-core 9800GX2 x 3 it wouldn't even last half a second
03:33.30Cryectthere is no multithreadness
03:33.31DARKGuyHmmmm
03:33.35Nandinithat method would also block the entire UI
03:33.40Cryectso uh that would just freeze your computer
03:33.43DARKGuyyes
03:33.47Cryectand besides thats an awful way to sleep threads
03:33.48DARKGuyI realized :(
03:34.09DARKGuyhey it was fun to try /script while(1) do loop in middle of a raid in a private server, it crashed
03:34.10DARKGuyrofl.
03:34.25Groktarmmm
03:34.27DARKGuyand since then I stopped thinking about timers
03:34.36Nandinithere is some built in support for "fading" frames in and out, it uses OnUpdate too and basically does a few alpha calculations for you
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03:35.25Gnarfozyou check against time in an onupdate script, like basically everyone else does? :>
03:35.34DARKGuyNandini, oh, do you know if they have a special name or something I can look them up in google?
03:35.39DARKGuythat could work too
03:35.44DARKGuyoO but I'd have to find an example
03:37.03Nandinihttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_UIFrameFlash is an example, i'm not sure how useful it is though
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03:40.15CIA-41037destiny * r73647 10CoolDownButtons/ (CoolDownButtons.toc Locales/koKR.lua):
03:40.15CIA-41CoolDownButtons:
03:40.15CIA-41- add koKR locale
03:41.43CIA-4103grayhoof * r73648 10Proximo/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Proximo: 2.2 commit
03:45.48DARKGuyWell I'm gonna try both methods and see which one fits better, thanks :)
03:45.54CIA-4103ackis * r73649 10Querier/Querier.lua:
03:45.54CIA-41Querier:
03:45.54CIA-41- Increase timeout from the test settings I had
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03:56.36elite3vilAnyone else have problems keeping JoW up on Brutallus?
03:57.08GnarfozI hear ret paladins are good for that (and not much else, but that! :D)
03:57.48elite3vilAnyone else have problems keeping JoW up with a ret paladin on Brutallus?
03:59.06CIA-4103grayhoof * r73650 10sct/ (embeds.xml libs/ readme.txt sct.lua sct.toc): sct: 6.1 commit
04:02.06CIA-4103grayhoof * r73651 10sct_options/locals/ (7 files): sct_options: 6.1 commit
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04:03.48Gnarfozwell, Xparky just plain doesn't work. too bad :\
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04:12.39harl|WoWdoes Quixote communicate with another player's Quixote? or is that just another 2.4 event thing which blizzard forgot to mention..
04:13.38DARKGuyHm, I stumbled upon this code http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12983.msg209526 but it's way too much (it seems like) for what I want to archieve. Is there any.... easier way to make a frame draggable?
04:14.12harl|WoWother players seem to see when i complete quests but i don't see any other library than Quixote that could be responsible for it without it being wow internal
04:14.43Lukianquestsfu, partytogo
04:14.51Lukianhmm what other addons do it
04:14.57dylanmharl|WoW: I thought that was the whole point of Quixote.
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04:16.40harl|WoWi don't know.  i've got Quixote because it's been downloaded as an external library for some add-on, but i seem to miss an add-on like QuestsFu that's capable of displaying the information the Quixotes exchange
04:17.10harl|WoWwill see.
04:18.02dylanmDARKGuy: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Frame_Draggable
04:18.39DARKGuydylanm, yes I'm there but that requires XML, I've seen Ace addons with draggable frames and no xml files, is there any way to do it lua-only ?
04:18.58dylanmEvery XML property has method equivalents for the most part.
04:19.09dylanmEverything beyond templates and those are easily dealt with.
04:19.49dylanm:SetMovable(true)
04:19.59dylanm:StartMoving()
04:20.27DARKGuythe scripts part is what confuses me
04:20.29dylanm:EnableMouse(true) and so on.
04:21.28dylanmAh.
04:21.47Xueriano_0.... It's pretty straightforward...
04:22.00DARKGuy:P I already have SetMovable and EnableMouse. Cool, the camera doesn't rotate when I click on the frame... but I can't seem to make it drag
04:22.20DARKGuyI mean, I have no idea on the procedure or instrunctions I must use
04:22.28DARKGuysince that is XML... I don't know how to apply that in Lua
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04:22.48DARKGuy*instructions
04:23.20Ackis-wheeee entropius!
04:23.24Xuerian:SetScript('event', function)
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04:23.32CIA-41FuBar_GroupCalendarFu:
04:23.32CIA-41- commiting fixed GroupCalendarFu.lua file posted by wesleydungan on the forums, making GCFu compatible with GC version 4.0.x.
04:23.32CIA-41- If your guild still uses version 3.0 for whatever reason, then use this version: http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_GroupCalendarFu/FuBar_GroupCalendarFu-r60940.3.zip
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04:23.55Xuerianfunction being a reference to a function, which can be made as easily as     function(arg1, arg2) return arg1+arg2 end
04:24.30DARKGuythat confused me even further :P
04:24.51Xueriana function can be passed around as a argument just like a string or a number or whatever
04:24.59dylanmMostly just... :RegisterForDrag("LeftButton"). Set a script for OnDragStart and OnDragStop.
04:25.21DARKGuyso say, if I have :SetScript("OnMouseUp","myfunc") and myaddon:myfunc() <here goes the OnMouseUp block in wowwiki> end . Will work?
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04:27.31Xuerianyou don't refer to the function by name
04:27.49Xuerianyou literally give it the function for the second argument
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04:28.02DARKGuybut if my function is long, it'll look very, very ugly
04:28.18DARKGuyo,o
04:28.26XuerianIf you're using a member function, go like this: :SetScript("OnMouseUp", function() myaddon:myfunc() end)
04:28.38XuerianJust create a dummy function that calls whatever you want properly
04:28.49DARKGuyOh, I understand now
04:28.52XuerianOr one of the more caring people can tell you how to do it properly
04:29.18DARKGuywell just as long as it works, which it seems, I think I'll go for it unless there's a more proper/better way :P
04:29.32Xuerianlocal func = function(args) whatever end creates a unnamed function but places it in "func". local function func(args) whatever end does more or less teh exact same thing
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04:33.35CIA-41AckisRecipeList:
04:33.35CIA-41- Converted a few patterns to be limited supply
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04:37.14DARKGuyXuerian, I see, thanks for the explanation :)
04:37.35XuerianDARKGuy: So long as you're not sorting hash tables, lua is a very friendly and malleable little language :P
04:38.59DARKGuyXuerian, xD well, dunno about hash tables o,o... this is my first esxperience with Lua xD and yes, it's very awesome to program in so far :P
04:39.06DARKGuyI just have to get used to it ¬¬
04:39.17XuerianDARKGuy: What editor are you using?
04:39.39DARKGuyXuerian, notepad++
04:40.07XuerianDARKGuy: Using it too since I don't have ultraedit open..  can you have it run code through a parser?
04:40.13Xuerians/open/installed/
04:41.10DARKGuyXuerian, Um, not that I know of, I don't know if notepad++ has that feature or not, tbh ^^;;
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04:44.25CIA-41GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-13
04:44.25CIA-41-zhCN and TW update
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04:46.25vithos[Ammo]: i think you should make an option to show minimum durability percentage as text on smoothdurability instead of just average
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04:57.27CIA-41Undercut:
04:57.27CIA-41- Add CallbackHandler-1.0 to externals prop
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05:00.57GitHub100libdatabroker-1-1: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-caa52c9
05:00.59GitHub100Add two more callbacks, so we can listen to all changes to all DOs, and for changes to a specific key across all DOs
05:01.02GitHub100http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/commit/caa52c9091b238a937f9dd28097e8628ad790608
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05:05.21GitHub18libdatabroker-1-1: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-52a68af
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05:05.25GitHub18http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/commit/52a68af9a4514554c92e0f65e474c8e9f3990854
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05:12.31GitHub23libdatabroker-1-1: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-60b2557
05:12.33GitHub23Remove all the other crap, this lib isn't standalone
05:12.35GitHub23http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/commit/60b255726874329f8bff0fcccd6471de2f7ab661
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05:12.39GitHub23Add asserts to ensure our embedder has provided LibStub and CBH-1.0
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05:12.41GitHub23http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/commit/f9d04aca94f28ed089dc827bf4fd35921c2ea6d9
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05:28.33NeoTronis not in the mood to make a better UI for MagicDKP raid db atm.
05:30.01Silverstormheh, yeah...UI / options are my least favorite parts of mod designing/writing
05:32.16Xuerianargh
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05:32.47Xuerianpeople who list single-item stacks of items that need to be bought in quantities for over a total of one page (9 pages!!!) can diaf >_<
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05:39.54vithosyeah, i hate that too.
05:40.09vithosauctioneer needs a better way to tell it to buy whatever the best value auction is
05:40.28vithosdoing it from the appraiser thing is really slow
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05:41.09vithossome idiot was listing leather in stacks of 1 when i leveled leatherworking
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05:46.26kergothvithos: so use bottomscanner, thats what its for.
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05:55.17vithosi thought it just refreshes the last page...
05:57.01vithosoh man, i wish i knew that before :/
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06:33.59syerenIf anyone is able to suggest a Resto Shaman POV of Kael, it would be appreciated.
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06:35.42CIA-4103Chorizotarian * r73660 10Undercut/Undercut.toc:
06:35.42CIA-41Undercut:
06:35.42CIA-41- Add CallbackHandler-1.0 to TOC
06:40.41Xinhuano_O
06:41.20syerenzzzzz
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06:51.02Groktarso
06:51.09Groktarif you drop a fire nova totem in the AH
06:51.11Groktarand then logout
06:51.16Groktarright before it pulses
06:51.22Groktarit will go off once
06:51.29Groktarand kill all the level 1s
06:51.35Groktarbecause it goes hostile
06:52.17jy_not recommended unless you plan on quitting wow
06:54.11Groktarya
06:54.24Groktarbasically some people in my guild decided to do it
06:54.31Groktarwhile i was on my bank alt
06:54.39Groktarthey didn't know it was me, either
06:54.39Groktarlol
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06:57.15DARKGuysounds fun
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07:14.55Kemayoharl|WoW: There's also LibQuixote-2.0
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07:24.00Aens|Superiorityanyone know the name of the dance song that lists all the big cities in the world?
07:25.04Gnarfozno, but I know a Manowar song that lists some of the countries with a good Manowar fan crowd, if that helps
07:25.29DARKGuyXD
07:27.15Nandiniare you sure that's not borrowed from Animaniacs (Yakko's World) which lists most of the countries of the world? :)
07:27.49Aens|Superioritynaw. Its about two years old or so.
07:27.51Aens|Superioritymale vocals
07:29.02DARKGuyAnybody knows how do I get the real position I must use, for when I do self.frame:SetPoint("CENTER",100,0)... I try to get self.frame:GetLeft() and I get a whole different value
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07:46.03[scott]I must be tired. local CombatLog_OnEvent = _G.CombatLog_OnEvent where the upvalue's nil O.O
07:46.46[scott]<PROTECTED>
07:46.53[scott]scratches his head.
07:52.36ramozso
07:53.52CIA-41037destiny * r73662 10FuBar_FactionsFu/Locales/FuBar_FactionsFu.koKR.lua:
07:53.52CIA-41FuBar_FactionsFu
07:53.52CIA-41- koKR Update
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07:54.26CIA-41AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
07:54.26CIA-41- Sunwell update
07:55.05[scott]what do you mean so?
07:56.45[scott]Line 3306 in Blizzard_CombatLog is _G.CombatLog_OnEvent = CombatLog_OnEvent
07:57.28Nargiddleyare you loading after Blizzard_ConbatLog does ?
07:58.09[scott]It's not being run at load time anyways
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08:05.55Nandiniit seems there are no good tradeskill replacement windows left
08:06.07Nandinidoes anyone have any suggestions?
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08:09.11[scott]Well actually that's not true cause the upvalue is run at load time. hmm
08:09.29[scott]Shouldn't BLizz code already be loaded before addons are loaded?
08:10.02[scott]s/run/setup
08:10.18Gngskdepends on your definition of blizz code
08:10.20Nargiddleynot the Blizard_ addons
08:10.26Gngsk^
08:10.27Nargiddleythey are generally LoD
08:10.34[scott]Hmm
08:10.42[scott]Yeah combat log is. damn
08:10.49GngskIsAddOnLoaded() ?
08:10.55Gngskor something along those lines..
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08:17.40CIA-41AutoBar :
08:17.40CIA-41-- Fix tooltip error during Move the Buttons
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08:18.54[SW]Dodgeg'morning
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08:21.48DARKGuyhey [SW]Dodge ^^
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08:22.23[SW]Dodgehi DARKGuy :)
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08:23.48CIA-41AutoBar :
08:23.48CIA-41-- Add shuffle translations ahead of time
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08:34.38CIA-41SimpleDrumAnnounce:
08:34.38CIA-41-Added French localization.
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08:35.39CIA-41StellarBars
08:35.39CIA-41- disembed LibButtonFacade but still support it if present
08:38.29ZhinjioYo
08:42.49Primer!rating 1591
08:42.50Xinhuan1591 rating gives 453(5s), 399(3s) and 344(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
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08:52.58ZhinjioG'morning, Xinhuan
08:53.10Zhinjiooh, thats him being a bot. nm.
08:53.13Xinhuanis that a macro
08:53.27Zhinjiowhat, me saying G'morning? no.
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08:53.44Zhinjiothat would be kind of lame.
08:54.20Zhinjiodid you see my comment about the layout-cache thinger?
08:54.26Xinhuanno
08:54.47Zhinjiothat fix you suggested didn't work, according to bug reports. I'm going to try to reproduce it shortly
08:54.52Xinhuanits loaded just before PLAYER_LOGIN
08:55.13Xinhuanwhen wow loads it, any frame in that file gets :ClearAllPoints() followed by SetPoint()
08:55.21Xinhuanas specified in the file, along with SetFrameLevel/Strata
08:55.35Xinhuanso anything you want to do will need to be during or after PLAYER_LOGIN
08:55.57Zhinjiohmm. ok. that makes sense.
08:56.25Xinhuan:OnEnable() is called by ace2/3/rock during PLAYER_LOGIN
08:56.28Zhinjioin that case, it may be just as simple as putting that line in my "FullyInitialized" routine
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09:03.05CIA-41IHML:
09:03.05CIA-41- deDE cooking
09:04.19Zhinjiothanks Xinhuan.
09:09.39Groktar2019 smite crit
09:09.44Groktarph33r that holy priest dps
09:09.48Groktarnot to be taken lightly, imo
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09:12.41[dRaCo]Groktar: see me hiding?
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09:14.05CIA-41TankPoints:
09:14.05CIA-41- Fixed bug in GetBlockValue
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09:23.30CIA-41AtlasLoot:
09:23.30CIA-41- Complete all profession data
09:24.30CIA-4103kurax * r73672 10AtlasLoot/Documentation/Release Notes.txt:
09:24.30CIA-41AtlasLoot:
09:24.30CIA-41- Update release note
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09:29.01Groktartouch me
09:29.11thulwhat is the phone prefix for us?
09:29.19Nandini1
09:29.34thulok! thanks
09:30.44Nandiniit's not a "superiority" thing, it's just that the US had the largest number of phones and phone switches at the time that system was implemented
09:31.01thulhehe, that is quite ok, I' just need to call a store:p
09:31.01Nandiniand that number was decided to work best with the majority of the switching equipment already in place
09:31.26thulmhm
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09:32.58Nandinii always feel guilty for having the code 1 though. heheh
09:33.04thulhehe
09:33.11Groktari feel awesome for having it
09:33.21Nandinimy european friends always mock me
09:33.25Groktarhehe
09:33.49CIA-4103kurax * r73673 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (5 files):
09:33.49CIA-41AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
09:33.49CIA-41- Update locales
09:33.57Nandinibut i remind them, 1 is the smallest positive integer, their prefixes are bigger and better!
09:34.10thulhehe
09:34.18thul47 here :-P 5 away from superawsome
09:34.24Nandinifor example, the UK's prefix (44) is probably about 44 times better than ours
09:35.01thulI have to call new york in about 3 hours 30 minutes
09:35.04thulthey don't open yet
09:35.31Nandinimaintenance on US realms will start in about 30 minutes
09:35.54Nandiniafter that, the entire country will sleep for 8 hours :)
09:36.10thulhehe
09:36.31thulwell, I'm calling a store on 42 west, 18th street :-P
09:38.00Nandinithey're from NYC, they probably are too cool to play wow :)
09:39.01thulwell, it is a photographynerdstore :-P
09:39.48CIA-4103totalpackage * r73674 10Snoopy/: Created folder remotely
09:41.14CIA-4103profalbert * r73675 10Parrot/Locales/ParrotLocale-deDE.lua:
09:41.14CIA-41Parrot:
09:41.14CIA-41- deDE update
09:47.00CIA-4103totalpackage * r73676 10Snoopy/ (. Snoopy.toc core.lua):
09:47.00CIA-41Snoopy
09:47.00CIA-41- initial commit, a no thrills inspect mod
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10:43.08CIA-4103StiviS * r73677 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
10:43.08CIA-41AutoBar :
10:43.08CIA-41- esES updated
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10:48.32Meraself.Names[Button] = arg1
10:48.32Merafor a,b in pairs(self.Names) do
10:48.32Meraend
10:48.32MeraIs it possible and how can I store more than 2 linked variables(Button & arg1) into the table Names so I can retrieve later a,b + c
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10:55.16durcynyou'd have to nest another table or concat a string onto the end of your key
10:55.38durcynor another table entirely, i.e. foo.a.b and foo.c.b
10:55.41Merayeah was just testing with a second table looks like ok thanks man
10:56.05durcyndepending on how you're using it, a second table entirely might be less costly than nesting
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11:01.26ant1pathydid i screw this up?
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11:07.27ant1pathy#wowace /motd
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11:15.15Zyndromehttp://forums.wow-europe.com/index.html?sid=1
11:15.17Zyndromewtf
11:15.24Kalrothl2p
11:15.32Zyndromenew layout, god damn
11:15.36Zyndromegoes into a wall
11:15.44Kalrothwhat's wrong with that?
11:15.54durcynUS forums have had that for a while now, get with the times.
11:16.01durcyneffing europeans.
11:16.04ZyndromeEU forums just got it :(
11:16.22Punkiehaha oh wow
11:16.32durcynit's actually less horrible than the old layout - it actually works in browsers without javacrapscript
11:16.38CIA-4103whitetooth * r73678 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
11:16.38CIA-41StatLogicLib:
11:16.38CIA-41- zhTW update, fixed spell haste
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11:32.45CIA-4103digby * r73679 10Yikes/ (. core.lua embeds.xml):
11:32.45CIA-41Yikes:
11:32.45CIA-41- Updated to LibSharedMedia-3.0
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11:47.33CIA-4103aceclaw * r73680 10WorldTradeCenter/Main.lua:
11:47.33CIA-41WorldTradeCenter:
11:47.33CIA-41- fix nil error on ui's that take more that 10s to load
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11:49.32Orionshockhow does one get the item lvl for somethign?
11:50.05[SW]Dodgeorican http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo
11:50.07ShotitemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount,
11:50.08[SW]DodgeOrionshock
11:50.09[SW]Dodge>:<
11:50.10ShotitemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID or "itemString" or "itemName" or "itemLink")
11:50.24CIA-4103Shot * r73681 10DoIKnowYou/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
11:50.24CIA-41DoIKnowYou:
11:50.24CIA-41- Add option to disable data sharing
11:50.24CIA-41- Update embeds to remove AceComm
11:50.53Shothmm, just realised that was 2 updates in one, and I forgot to put the notes in for the first one
11:50.56Shotah well
11:51.08Orionshockhummm....
11:51.33CIA-4103jerry 07Ace3 * r73682 10Grid/Grid2/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
11:51.33CIA-41Grid2: (drycoded)
11:51.33CIA-41_ Remove distinction between the group header and the raidgroup header(s).
11:51.33CIA-41_ Change the "isPetGroup" group property to "type", which can be "party", "partypet", "raid" or "raidpet". The first two are only allowed once per layout (this may change).
11:51.33CIA-41_ Allow to set a grid layout for each of the following case : solo, party, raid, pvp (== battleground) and arena.
11:51.35Orionshockbut does it work for enchant links...
11:51.42Orionshocknow there is the real question...
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11:55.12CIA-4103scorpio0920 * r73683 10Incubator/Locale-zhTW.lua:
11:55.12CIA-41Incubator:
11:55.12CIA-41- Update zhTW localization.
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12:00.24Orionshockservers are still down right?
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12:01.41durcynyeah, not even the auth servers are back up yet
12:03.44anenigmaanother 5 hours i think
12:04.38Orionshockwhere is narg when you have questions...
12:04.42FtH|Daemona2.4.2 went live?
12:04.58anenigmadunno if blizz confirmed yet
12:05.01Stanzillayes
12:05.01anenigmabut more than likely yes
12:05.30FtH|Daemonakk, gotta grab all voids i can get then and inflate the prices :D
12:06.33jy_inflation in wow is ****
12:06.51durcyneh, they usually bring up the auth servers first, since that's where you get redirected to the patch download
12:07.02durcynearly, rather
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12:11.30anenigmaooh
12:11.35anenigmaEU realms are confirmed 2.4.2
12:11.43anenigmaso presumably the same on US as well
12:12.00FtH|Daemonaerhm how can you confirm 2.4.2 on eu realms
12:12.09FtH|Daemonaif its tuesday and we get patches on wednesday...
12:12.40FtH|Daemonaand a community page posting the patch files ... is no proof
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12:14.04profalbertthe start screen shows: this Wednesday there will be an extended maintenenace to apply patch 2.4.2
12:14.15profalbertthe login-screen i mean
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12:16.13FtH|Daemonak... i logged on an hour ago and it didnt show ;)
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12:19.11durcyn~wowalert
12:19.12purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU)
12:19.56anenigmadoh
12:20.01anenigmai just spent like 3 minutes googling that
12:20.07anenigmaand purl knew all along
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12:25.32SunTsu~seen toadkiller
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12:35.30kenlyricthis is an interesting new patch bug
12:37.36anenigmaoh?
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12:38.42kenlyric"waiting for all files to close"
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12:38.57hasteI've gotten that one before
12:41.28KemayoI wish the realms hadn't gone down right as I was 80% through adding totem timers to agUF. :P
12:41.41kenlyrichaste: do you remember what the solution was?
12:42.30kenlyricI'm not even seeing it download the torrent. I wonder where it's putting it
12:42.41hasteI play with wine, so I don't think my solution will help you :p
12:43.34Grotkrishkenlyric: a quick google search suggests using the task manager to end wow.exe, bnupdate.exe or updater.exe
12:43.44Grotkrishof course, a reboot might solve it as well
12:44.08kenlyricthat's never happened before :/
12:45.00Grotkrishif wow didn't close properly after downloading the patch, that could happen i guess
12:46.14evlany UI changes in 2.4.2?
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12:47.37_raneis there an addon that could block all whispers that include /tank/
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12:49.31CIA-4103jerry 07Ace3 * r73684 10Grid/Grid2/GridLayout.lua: Grid2: Even more layout generalisation. You can now have as many groups as you want in a grid, of any type.
12:51.58anenigmaok, mod hunting again.  or possibly a new interface option from blizzard.  basically, it doesn't show everyones roll, but shows "XXX receives loot [Y of Z] (Greed: 66)" for rolled loot, and no other lines.  is this a new interface thing, or a mod of sorts?
12:52.11Elkanointerface
12:52.25anenigmai really gotta play with all these new interface options
12:52.31anenigmaso much has changed in the year i was gone
12:52.46ElkanoDisplay - Detailed Loot Information
12:53.15anenigmathanks elk :)
12:53.52Elkanonp :)
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13:15.12Orionshockhum... looks like it's official, 2.4.2 ...
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13:18.09thulwhatiz?!
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13:28.08Aerrpatch has been available for DL since last night on mmo champion
13:28.17anenigmayeah 2.4.2 is official on EU alert page
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13:31.23CIA-4103orionshock * r73685 10GuildCraft/ (GuildCraft_Browser/BrowserUIv2.lua core.lua): GuildCraft: /DryCode/ try to alpha sort makers list, start work on v2 of the browserUI
13:31.44Orionshockprays he didn't break anything...
13:32.14anenigmawhat is guildcraft anyway?
13:32.17anenigmagoes off to search
13:32.38Orionshockhehe...
13:32.38Aerrim assuming you can look through and see what everyone in guild can make
13:33.10Aerramirite orionshock
13:33.12Aerr:)
13:33.22KolieI was wondering what it did too,
13:34.02Orionshockyes
13:34.05Orionshock:D
13:34.41Aerrsee, i was right, and all i did was read the update there :)
13:35.25Orionshockbasically i got tired of addons like "iGuildTradeSkill" sucking so much
13:35.50Orionshockand with all the new goodies that blizzard gave us recently i figured i can hack one up that's better >.>
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13:36.44Aerrhaha
13:37.05Aerri just tweak addons, not too keen in starting one anew
13:37.49Orionshockthat's what i thought :\
13:37.57kenlyricI stopped using the addon I "wrote"
13:38.09Aerrwell i just dont know where to start tbh
13:38.10kenlyricgrid just turned out to not make a very good player unitframe :)
13:38.31Orionshocktbh, the only major downfall of GuildCraft is the ChoiceUI, it's total fail... and it's that way because im lazy :\
13:38.32dieck_hm, is 2.4.2 life in US?
13:38.39dieck_live even?
13:38.43Aerrit is when servers are back up
13:38.43_raneyes it is
13:39.19OrionshockAerr: first place to start?  think of something you want it to do.
13:39.38Orionshock2ndly, make it do less, alot less than what you first thought up
13:39.46Aerrthere was only one like that. but it was a dead mod, i just revived it.
13:39.48dieck_ah, good to know, thx
13:42.16Aerri just dont know the code to start a mod from scratch or how to make it do what i want it
13:42.31Orionshocksteal it from someone else...
13:42.33Orionshock:D
13:42.38Aerrhaha
13:42.39kenlyricI find tinkering around with other code is the best way
13:42.44kenlyricit's "tinkering", not "stealing"
13:42.48Orionshockit's what i did
13:42.48Aerrhahaha
13:43.05Orionshocki think i opened up... Automation
13:43.26Orionshockand started copying stuff out into new files, then modified to make them work my way
13:43.29Aerri just want something to tell me when to totemic recall and refresh my watershield when it either expires or all charges are used.
13:43.35kenlyricgridstatusstrings is just gridstatushealth and gridmanabars code mashed together and returning different values.
13:43.47Aerrbut lightweight and just does it in a standard warning
13:43.59OrionshockAerr: define standard warning
13:44.03kenlyricAerr: SimpleSelfRebuff will do the second, as will zomgbuffs
13:44.10OrionshockIE as a UI Error, as a Raid Warning ?
13:44.27kenlyricoh, it won't show in combat I guess since it can't rebuff
13:44.28AerrLike a raid warning. but just the message.
13:44.31_raneAerr: combat log event "AURA_REMOVED" or something for that watershield thing
13:44.40OrionshockAerr: ok
13:44.51Orionshockdoable in ~40 lines or less
13:44.59Orionshockthat's with some formatting bloat
13:45.36Aerrbut heres the tricky part. i like to make efficient use of mana. and i like to totemic recall before the first totem expires so i get maximum mana returned
13:45.38Orionshockwell the first part atleast, would
13:45.52Orionshockyep,
13:46.26OrionshockCLEU parser, and an OnUpdate timmer
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13:46.48DARKGuymornin' ^_^
13:46.54Aerrhiya darkguy
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13:47.02DARKGuyhey Aerr :)
13:47.03[Liq]Yo
13:47.06Orionshocki had a CLEU parser in one of the threads on wowace forums...
13:47.14DARKGuy^^
13:47.39AerrDarkguy, archimonde down, and none of us are even revered.
13:48.15DARKGuyAerr, @_@ how come? oO
13:48.25CIA-4103jerry * r73686 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (9 files in 8 dirs):
13:48.25CIA-41LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
13:48.25CIA-41_ Update dataminer for the latest changes to wowhead.
13:48.25CIA-41_ Added SSO Reputation rewards, thanks Astaldo.
13:48.25CIA-41_ Run the dataminer & compresssplit.
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13:48.34thulI HATE THE TAB CHANGE OF TARGET
13:48.35thulffffs
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13:48.38thuli really, really HATE IT
13:48.39DARKGuylol
13:48.39Aerrbecause we can stand out of fire?
13:48.50kenlyricthul: rebind it?
13:49.01thulwell, it is not the key, it is how it works :-(
13:49.05thulit is so damned irrational
13:49.13DARKGuythul, I hate T next to R, it makes my targeting stupid when I am on BGs, press keys like crazy and end up whispering 12312122321212222222212111 to whoever last whispered me xD
13:49.22Aerrhaha
13:49.40kenlyricwhat are the more popular HUDs these days?
13:49.53thuli attack a hunter, a warrior charges me, i want to tab-change to him and press ctrl-3 for blind... but does tab change to the warrior? NO! it changes to a warlock, way over there, then to the warlocks pet, THEN to the hunters pet..
13:49.56kenlyrici'm gonna give some a go since grid didn't pan out.
13:49.57thuland then I'm dead
13:50.00thulI HATE IT
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13:50.08DARKGuylol thul
13:50.27ramozcant tab in pvp nub
13:50.35Aerrkenlric, i use metahud
13:50.43Aerrhttp://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08190/wowscrnshot_051108_144949284.jpg  = ex
13:50.44Balstoryou know about the bllind / disorient exploitt?
13:50.48DARKGuythere is another similar one, which looks like DHUD
13:51.01OrionshockAerr: http://ace.pastey.net/87714
13:51.05thulramoz: that is my point
13:51.06Orionshockthere it is :D
13:51.07AerrBalstor, i saw that happening quite a bit recently
13:51.09thulI WANT TO DO THOUGH
13:51.11thulDARKGuy: no?
13:51.41Balstoryhea aerr heard about it last night with a video, going to make pvp this week rough
13:51.45DARKGuythul, no what o.O
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13:51.57thulDARKGuy: exploit
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13:53.08DARKGuyAerr, you sure love the default blizzard dialog border huh :P
13:53.19Aerrhaha
13:53.21Aerr>.>
13:53.24Aerrit flows well
13:53.26DARKGuythul, oO you can change the keybinding and it isn't called exploiting, if thats what you mean o.O
13:53.37Aerrhave you seen my Grid, darkguy
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13:53.43DARKGuyAerr, what are the two new main bar buttons at the right of it?
13:53.45DARKGuyAerr, nope
13:53.53thulDARKGuy: nevermind, I'm talking about Balstor
13:53.56thuli just read erroneously
13:54.00DARKGuyoh
13:54.32AerrDarkguy, what buttons are you talking about?
13:54.47DARKGuyAerr, the one with the three green bars and the small golden keuy
13:54.53DARKGuys/keuy/key/
13:55.16Aerrits latency and my keyring
13:55.19Balstorthul ,a rogue disorients and blinds ( i can't remember the exact sequence this morning) and for the next 10 seconds or so if the player moves there ported back to that spot
13:55.50thulnice :-P
13:55.52AerrAltho i have it so that my latency bar would change colors if i had a sudden drop in fps as well
13:56.22DARKGuyAerr, that's a nice addon though
13:56.29Balstoralso if you release in areans and leave the arena you can get off one instant cast spell as you leave the arena
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13:56.44DARKGuythere's some addon that will change the terrain distance according to your FPS... I think that code can be adapted, Aerr
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13:57.07Aerri suppose so
13:57.15[Liquidor]Yo
13:57.24Aerraltho i go higher then the available terrain distance with console commands
13:57.26AerrxD
13:58.39DARKGuy:O
13:58.39DARKGuynoo
13:58.41DARKGuyshow me!
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13:59.41Aerrmaybe I'll make an exended range addon >.>
13:59.42DARKGuyI've always wondered if the maximum setting is as far as you can go, because the fog would "cover" terrain clipping
13:59.57DARKGuyat least thinking in a game designer-way
14:00.06Aerrlets just say...
14:00.07Aerrfar
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14:03.16AerrDarkguy http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08190/wowscrnshot_051108_003808765.jpg
14:03.44Aerrthat was before i made the fromes for my bars
14:04.37Aerrframes*
14:05.05RaydenUnipatch!
14:05.05dieck_Aerr: is that a grid there? why do you need additional raid frames? ;)
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14:05.21DARKGuyAerr, wow, pretty sleek
14:05.22DARKGuyI like
14:05.23DARKGuy:D
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14:05.34Aerrit shows addictional debuffs and keeps track of rez'ing
14:05.39RaydenUniboo
14:05.40Aerrso it doesnt flood grid
14:05.42RaydenUniservers are down
14:05.58RaydenUnii thought downtime was on two week schedule now
14:06.04DARKGuyfor maintenance 'til 11:00 I read
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14:06.09DARKGuy?
14:06.09RaydenUnilame
14:06.10Orionshockgnight all
14:06.12RaydenUnisame as last week
14:06.12Brunersyou got group frames, grid and raid frames
14:06.15AerrDarkguy, see the Elkbuffbars and eepanels lua script in action, eh?
14:06.19Brunersthats abit overkill
14:06.20RaydenUnii'm downloading th epatch right now so i havent seen that yet
14:06.32DARKGuyAerr, yeah :D no bugs with it so that's cool
14:06.37AerrBruners, i need to keep track of the mana of my party
14:06.45Aerrfor mana tide
14:06.46dylanmRaydenUni: There's not really a two-week schedule... I think that was the plan at some point but they seem to have given up on it.
14:06.50dieck_Aerr: GridManaBars :)
14:06.53RaydenUniugh
14:06.55DARKGuyI thought it could someday break because of too much buffs or different elkbb buff groups
14:07.01Aerrfloods grid and can slow it down
14:07.04Elkanohmm?
14:07.04RaydenUniat least my schedule of "tutoring" tuesday mornings comes to an end soon
14:07.12RaydenUnithat was very poor planning
14:07.44AerrDarkguy, Full buffs it doesnt even touch totemus
14:07.51kenlyricseems like the best time of week to do it
14:08.09kenlyricAerr: gridmanabars recently got a rewrite and is a lot better
14:08.24kenlyricit doesn't quite eat up the ram it used to.
14:08.34DARKGuyAerr, awesome :O
14:08.37kenlyricthe mana reporting and bar functions have been separated too
14:08.47AerrI'll give it a shot, if i dont liek it tho, im back to what i use now
14:08.48Aerr>.>
14:08.50kenlyricAerr: also, if you don't want a bar, check out GridStatusStrings
14:09.07kenlyricit'll return numerical mana back to a CenterText
14:09.08CIA-4103hegarol * r73687 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
14:09.08CIA-41AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
14:09.08CIA-41- Sunwell update
14:09.09DARKGuyglad I'm not a buffer :P
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14:09.24AerrKenlyric, thats flooding my grid
14:09.32Aerri have diseases and poisons in center
14:09.39Aerralong with large health deficits
14:10.13kenlyriccentertext2 is below the icon in the middle :)
14:10.23RaydenUniCarrot on a Stick is now craftable (1x Simple Wood, 1x Fine Thread, 1x Golden Sansam).
14:10.24RaydenUnihuh?
14:10.34stew_ayep
14:10.43stew_aall the mount trinkets are now enchants apparently
14:10.45dieck_Aerr: when you get rid of the raid frames and party frames, you can upsize grid a little bit and get all you need from it ;)
14:10.57RaydenUniso multiple mounts = multiple riding crops?
14:11.02dieck_RaydenUni: yes
14:11.03Aerryes
14:11.08RaydenUnithat's annoying
14:11.15SorataI don't believe that has been changed yet
14:11.17dieck_RaydenUni: I think I'll buy some primal might today, as long as the patch hasn't arrived
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14:11.29stew_aalchemists are giving backhanders to blizz
14:11.29RaydenUnito make them?
14:11.30dieck_what did they do for warlock and paladin horses?
14:11.38Soratait'll probably be changed in an upcoming patch (2.5 more than likely)
14:12.34Aerrpallys need a riding crop? xD
14:12.36dieck_at, so it's not in 2.4.2?
14:12.41sicayep, the new enchants are already in the game files but not obtainable in 2.4.2
14:12.43profalbertdieck_: nothing until WotLK comes (Inscription)
14:12.49dieck_haven't yet read the whole notes
14:12.54profalberti guess
14:13.08Soratano, its in the game files but its not available in games
14:13.10dieck_profalbert: I'm praying for my enchanter :)
14:13.14Sorata*game
14:14.20dieck_Aerr: hm, paladins maybe not, but warlock horses are spells, so most likely not "enchantable" by Riding Crop, but as profalbert mentioned there has to be an inscription
14:14.23RaydenUnino more bear mounts
14:14.42CIA-4103grayhoof * r73688 10sct_options/locals/localization.tw.lua: sct_options: TW localization update
14:14.43AerrRaydenUni, good thing i already have mine
14:14.58FinalXThey'll most likely get passive 10% mountspeed increasing spells from their trainers.
14:15.00profalbertI don't use the warlock mount anyway, since I have my war bear ;)
14:15.01FinalXJust as druids.
14:15.16CIA-4103grayhoof * r73689 10sctd_options/locals/localization.tw.lua: sctd_options: TW localization update
14:15.26FinalXCharm of Swift Flight will be reducing the mana cost of (Swift) Flight Form by 200 or so iirc
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14:16.12Aerroh joy a mana reduction
14:16.15AerrGAME BREAKING
14:16.25RaydenUniflying form for druid at 68 is free? you just need the quest?
14:16.36Sorata7g :P
14:16.49dieck_even while "power farming", flight form never brought me under 98% mana between two nodes :)
14:16.51Soratabut technically you save 1000g cause you get the riding skill for free
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14:16.54RaydenUniso no 900g for the training?
14:16.58RaydenUnicool
14:17.02RaydenUniwait
14:17.07RaydenUniis normal flying a quest or just a skill?
14:17.11RaydenUniepic is a quest, i know that
14:17.14Aerrskill
14:17.14dieck_normal is a trainable skill
14:17.19Aerrepic is a quest
14:17.29RaydenUniawesome
14:17.31RaydenUnidruids are op
14:17.33Soratayep, mount + skill for 7g :P
14:17.38dieck_epic is a quest including heroic instances
14:17.43sicahm, bear mounts can be bought for 1000g on my server, so I stopped using it and went back to my ravenlord mount
14:17.46Aerrits easy tbh
14:17.57dieck_i always wanted the ravenlord
14:18.02AerrSica, you can tell who earned it tho.
14:18.04dieck_but it hasn't dropped yet
14:18.06Aerrlook at their gear
14:18.24RaydenUnihow do you get the Ravenlord?
14:18.49sicaRaydenUni: it drops in sethekk halls from the druid-epic-flying-mount-questmob :)
14:18.57RaydenUnioh
14:19.00RaydenUnirare drop?
14:19.04RaydenUniand you only have one shot?
14:19.07dieck_we did ZG for about 30+ weeks, and never seen either the raptor nor the tiger. Went in random pug 5man some weeks ago - ding, raptor drop. But no roll luck :(
14:19.26dieck_RaydenUni: you can recall him any time in that instance
14:19.32sicaRaydenUni: no, a druid who did the quest can summon him every time you do the instance
14:19.37RaydenUnioh
14:19.44RaydenUni<1%
14:19.57RaydenUnii want
14:20.04dieck_it's meant to be rare :)
14:20.13dieck_not as rare as the scarab, though
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14:20.26Aerrobvioously
14:20.34RaydenUnii need http://www.wowwiki.com/Swift_White_Hawkstrider so i can ride a chicken with my tauren
14:20.36RaydenUniscarab?
14:20.38sicaAerr: uhm, no, I don't think so, a bear mount can be done with ZA/Badge/Karazhan Loot
14:21.01dieck_RaydenUni: the one who opened the Gates of Ahn'Quiraj got a "legendary" mount. a rideable bug.
14:21.02sicaRaydenUni: that's not so rare, I've seen it drop 7 times :)
14:21.07RaydenUniit's not a scarab
14:21.10RaydenUnibut i know that one
14:21.15RaydenUnii've seen one
14:21.27dieck_RaydenUni: one per server - the servers where Blizzard opened the gates
14:21.28AerrScarab Lord Title and the legendary mount
14:21.31RaydenUnino
14:21.31CIA-4103apoco * r73690 10/branches/aX_RaidStatus/ (6 files in 2 dirs): aX_RaidStatus(Ace3): -Nuking Branches
14:21.37RaydenUnianyone who finishes the quest within 24 hr gets it
14:21.42Aerr^^
14:21.51dieck_hm, wasn't it a scarab? maybe not. never seen one
14:21.51RaydenUniBlack Qiraji Battle Tank
14:21.55CIA-4103jerry 07Ace3 * r73691 10Grid/Grid2/ (GridCore.lua GridLayout.lua):
14:21.55CIA-41Grid2:
14:21.55CIA-41_ Clear party attributes on :Reset()
14:21.55CIA-41_ Create a simple Config structure to link indicators and statuses
14:22.02SunTsuThe raven lord mount looks like somebody played too much gotcha in his spare timwe
14:22.05RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=21176
14:22.05SunTsu-w
14:22.08RaydenUnilook more like a zergling
14:22.16RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.21176#54085
14:22.38sicathere's only one mount I want badly, the Deathchargers Reins from Rivendare
14:22.56Aerrthats a myth
14:23.00Aerrhe doesnt drop it
14:23.01Aerr>.>
14:23.05SunTsuI'd like to have the zulian tiger
14:23.05RaydenUnihah
14:23.07RaydenUni0.01%
14:23.39RaydenUnii need to get an epic flying...
14:23.46RaydenUnican't do that if the servers are down though...
14:24.18mitch0nah, just go to some goldseller site, you'll get your money by the time the servers are up :)
14:24.30RaydenUnireally
14:24.33RaydenUnimuch more time efficient
14:25.05mitch0yeah... I'm only at around 2300g...
14:25.09RaydenUni800?
14:25.11RaydenUniheh
14:25.12mitch0playing since eu retail
14:25.32mitch0<- casual
14:25.38ApocoIs quartz nolonger being updated to ace3?
14:25.43RaydenUnii'm not that casual
14:25.48ApocoI saw a copy on branches but it hasnt been updated in months
14:25.48RaydenUnii just get bored with dailies really fast
14:25.50mortimerhugs his raven mount
14:25.53RaydenUnigold is better spent on gear
14:26.20mitch0mortimer: how do you get a raven mount? (guess it's a flying one, right?)
14:26.33RaydenUniwhich one?
14:26.40mortimerraven lord from sethekk
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14:26.51RaydenUniit's a ground mount actually
14:27.06SunTsuRaydenUni: That depends. If you are miner or herbalist a epic flying mount will make it up real soon
14:27.18steevhaste: whats your git repo url again? i forgot to do the check out
14:28.03mortimerand you get asked several times a day if it can fly ;)
14:28.03mitch0pff
14:28.03mitch0that's lame then
14:28.04mitch0I need the phoenix then ;)
14:28.04mitch0that can fly, right?
14:28.05ckknightI can fly!
14:28.12mortimerme too!
14:28.14mitch0nah,  you can't do shit
14:28.21mitch0;P
14:28.50mitch0and I can't check the ptr patch notes :(
14:29.08RaydenUnithe phoenix flies
14:29.11RaydenUniso does the rocket
14:29.54mitch0hm. seems our internal proxy went poo-poo again :(
14:31.19RaydenUniso i got owned by my guildmate warlock last night
14:31.24RaydenUnihe was 61 i'm a 64 feral druid
14:31.26RaydenUniin a duel
14:31.33thulthat wasn't very good
14:31.41RaydenUnii got im to like 70-80%
14:32.04RaydenUnipounce, mangle, rake, fear, fear, fear, stomp, heal, heal, dead
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14:32.46thulthat is what you get from being tauren
14:32.50thulreroll ud rogue
14:32.59RaydenUniyeah but i can tank
14:33.20Soratathe only thing you should rake is a rogue or prot warrior/pally
14:33.28Soratashred that clothy :P
14:33.38RaydenUnihmm true
14:33.41RaydenUniyou can get behind players
14:33.43RaydenUniheh
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14:33.46RaydenUnishred is worthless when grinding
14:33.50Soratawell not very well
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14:34.06RaydenUnistill
14:34.09Soratadamn range bug makes it impossible when they are runnign away from you
14:34.10RaydenUnii went most of the fight feared
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14:34.20Sorataeven though you are 30% faster
14:34.25sicano, when you time your energy ticks correctly, you can pounce, mangle, shred while the mob is stunned
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14:34.48Sorataand shred again if OoC procs :)
14:35.18thulcs, hemo, hemo, hemo, ks, hemo, hemo, hemo, CloS, hemo, hemo, hemo
14:35.19thul:-P
14:35.34RaydenUnii always ALMOST get pounce mangle shred
14:35.40RaydenUniat least on mobs
14:35.43thulmy tactic when it comes to 1on1 with locks.
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14:36.51Sorataget an energy ticker
14:36.58RaydenUnii have pitbull
14:37.01RaydenUnii watch the energy
14:37.18RaydenUnii can ravage, mangle, rake all in one go
14:37.28RaydenUnior a slight pause for rake
14:37.29kenlyricpitbull's energy ticker throws an error
14:37.31RaydenUnivs mobs
14:37.31kenlyricstill
14:37.42kenlyricafter like 3 months of not using pitbull char frame
14:38.03mitch0"Mage Armor no longer reduces the duration of beneficial magic buffs." <- wtf is this?
14:38.03steevworks here
14:38.57RaydenUniwhy doesn't energy tick start on combat?
14:39.52RaydenUniso
14:39.54RaydenUnidruid vs warlock?
14:40.02Sorataits just the way blizz have designed it, it ticks every 2 seconds starting from when you log in
14:40.21thuli want an energy ticker ooc.
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14:40.26thulhave to time my cs.
14:40.27RaydenUni?
14:40.32RaydenUnipitbull does that
14:40.40thuli use energywatch :-)
14:41.11DARKGuywhat's a good addon to move the damn tooltips ? :P
14:41.18DARKGuyother than Cowtip or TinyTip ?
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14:42.22kenlyriccowtip is modular. maybe you can turn off every feature but the movement function?
14:42.43kenlyricgod, what was that horrid tooltip mod I used to have
14:43.01CheadsDARKGuy I use TipTac
14:43.05kenlyricpretty sure it never made it into 2.01
14:43.18Cheadsmiss a fully working TinyTip though
14:43.45DARKGuyCheads, me too, that's why my question :P
14:43.52kenlyricwhat?
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14:43.56kenlyrictinytip is back
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14:44.10DARKGuyit does do nothing to me :(
14:44.10hastesteev: http://ixo.no/git
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14:44.39Cheadssure, just rather buggy since Thrae doesn't have enough time
14:44.53hasteI'm still using tinytip from last summer D:
14:45.04hasteupdates often.
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14:45.46DARKGuytoo
14:46.17CIA-4103dodge * r73693 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/Layout.lua:
14:46.17CIA-41CoolDownButtons:
14:46.17CIA-41- fixed issue with cyCircled
14:46.52Cheadshaste nice, it bugs with some tekkub addon, apparently it doesn't hook properly :/
14:47.47hastethat might be, I don't have any issues at least, so I'm happy
14:48.00ApocoWhich one of you fools is writing CooldownButtons?  I forget ><
14:48.03CheadsI have one, that's why =)
14:48.28hasteI don't think tiptac will be a better solution at least
14:48.47hasteit was creating it own tooltip and secure hooking OnUpdate on the default one last time I checked it out
14:49.14Cheadsok, I have no idea.. but I dont have any bugs with it
14:50.10mitch0what is a good way to start with shaman talents? so far I put points in resto to shorten healing, but I guess going further to resto is not healthy for solo play
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14:50.54ApocoEnhancement!
14:51.17mitch0but the starting enhancement talents looked lame
14:51.25mitch0some shield thingy and some mana thingy
14:52.10kenlyricstarting talents are sometimes lame
14:52.26Vonhintenstarting with a shield is not a bad idea for a shaman
14:52.27mitch0so which one is less lame in this case? :)
14:52.31Vonhintenkeeps you from getting your ass kicked
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14:57.57DarkElfi know one thing if ya goto the draenai starter area with a beginner shaman ya can get a 239 defense shield from the gnarpines
14:58.31kenlyricyeah, I took shield talent and then respecced near 20 when I got a decent 2h.
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14:59.24kenlyricbut I'm terrible at shaman build http://armorylite.com/us/kargath/ivanova/t  is what I have right now
14:59.25DarkElfi like to put points into my lightning spell though
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15:00.53Kalroth<kenlyric> but I'm terrible
15:00.57Kalrothqft!
15:01.04kenlyricindeed
15:01.33kenlyricshaman trees all suck, but you don't have any gear to make elemental work so just suffer through enhancement
15:02.45thulenhancement is fun
15:04.31kenlyricexcept it's the opposite of fun
15:04.43RaydenUniprot is no fun for leveling
15:04.45kenlyricuntil you get fun stuff like windfury and  stormstrike and DW
15:04.46RaydenUnineither is arms
15:04.47RaydenUnior fury
15:05.41RaydenUnihow is leveling moonkin?
15:05.44hydrogennice... http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2008/msg00152.html
15:05.47RaydenUniwhat are moonkins for anyways?
15:05.54hydrogendancing
15:05.57RaydenUnihow does their dps compare?
15:06.08thulkenlyric: pfft, enhancement is great fun :-D
15:06.10hydrogenthey are much more about the hybrid support
15:06.17hydrogenspell crit, imp farie fire
15:06.20hydrogenthey do pretty good damage though
15:06.28kadrahili wouldn't go moonkin until you get to outlands when you actually get spell damage gear though
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15:06.32hydrogenleveling feral is pretty great until 60+
15:06.33RaydenUniit seems like a moonkin would be really nice for a 25 man
15:06.33hydrogenyea
15:06.40kenlyricit's like a warrior except you drop totems
15:06.46hydrogenI bring moonkin for the spirit buffs
15:06.53RaydenUnikenlyric that doesn't excite me
15:06.57hydrogenput a moonkin in front and have em /dance
15:06.59RaydenUnii can't stand to play my warrior
15:07.00hydrogenand the whole raid feels better
15:07.04kenlyricI wasn't trying to excite you
15:07.07DarkElfyup we got updated today
15:07.14kenlyricI was trying to scare you away
15:07.18RaydenUnioh ok
15:07.20RaydenUniit worked
15:08.08DARKGuyhow can you see raid characters between all those colors?!
15:08.12DARKGuyis blind now
15:08.34kenlyricelaborate
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15:09.20DARKGuywell, sometimes there's a lot of dps and a lot of spells and a lot of everything
15:09.27DARKGuyand you see 78368123 spell effects
15:09.46kadrahili usually see 78368124 spell effects
15:09.57kadrahilcoughs
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15:10.32DARKGuyxD
15:11.25FinalXhydrogen: Yeah, colleague of mine posted it on debian.org, the tool is nice to check, affects every SSL key/X.509 certificate created on any Debian or derivatives from 2006 and later.. :(
15:11.47hydrogenyay debian!
15:11.50DarkElfwoohoo 2.4.2 now installing hehe ugh 15mb this could take a while
15:11.54hydrogencan't figure out how the tool works
15:12.03hydrogenbut I'm pretty sure my key was generated back when I was a gentoo ricer
15:12.10RaydenUnioh
15:12.12RaydenUnii have a question
15:12.15RaydenUnibartender
15:12.18FinalXhydrogen: but was your Host/OS key?
15:12.21RaydenUnii have it set up all nicely for my druid
15:12.26RaydenUnii use two bars
15:12.31RaydenUnifor combat
15:12.35FinalXhydrogen: ssh-keygen -q -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N '' -t rsa && ssh-keygen -q -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N '' -t rsa
15:12.37RaydenUnithe main one switches when i shapeshift into bear or cat, etc
15:12.43FinalXeh
15:12.45RaydenUniand then i hold ALT to pull up my cat finishing moves
15:12.46FinalXhydrogen: ssh-keygen -q -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key -N '' -t rsa && ssh-keygen -q -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N '' -t dsa
15:12.49FinalXthat :P
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15:13.01RaydenUnithe problem is i want the same thing for bear, but you can't mix stance and ALT
15:13.04RaydenUnias far as i can tell
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15:15.55RaydenUnihttp://firingsquad.com/matrix/blog.asp/54208/732/Defense_of_the_Ancients_Review_(Warcraft_III_Map/Mod)_%5BPreliminary_#2]
15:15.56RaydenUnifail
15:16.03RaydenUnihe mentioned Eul, bonus points, and then talks about all stars
15:16.12RaydenUni89 characters!
15:16.15RaydenUniit has to be balanced!
15:17.01RaydenUni"The good news is that the game has finally been perfected. Or at least you think it is until they release another patch to perfect the perfection even more."
15:17.04RaydenUniofficially an idiot
15:18.44Psycho|WorkWhat are you talking about?
15:18.48Psycho|WorkI perfect my perfection all the time.
15:18.50Psycho|WorkI'm doing it now.
15:19.37DarkElfbah blizzard downloader sucks gonna have to find a site with the manual patch :(
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15:22.14CIA-4103Xameni * r73695 10GhostPulse/Locale-deDE.lua:
15:22.14CIA-41GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-13
15:22.14CIA-41- deDE update
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15:22.40CIA-4103whitetooth * r73696 10RatingBuster/ (9 files):
15:22.40CIA-41RatingBuster:
15:22.40CIA-41- NEW: Support for negative stats
15:22.40CIA-41- Fixed: Better JewelTips support
15:23.13steevheh
15:23.29steevCoose your preferred location: and the only box available is Development
15:23.33steevChoose*
15:24.02CIA-4103whitetooth * r73697 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
15:24.02CIA-41StatLogicLib:
15:24.02CIA-41- Support for negative stats
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15:28.37FinalXBlizzard should make up their mind about Magisters' Terrace.
15:28.46FinalX"The categories for the quests “Wanted: Sisters of Torment” and “Wanted: The Signet Ring of Prince Kael’thas” have been fixed to now properly read as Magister’s Terrace."
15:29.01FinalXWhile their own in-game quests state Magisters' Terrace.
15:29.25UhuruHi, someone know which ag_unitframe version is working with wow 2.4 ?
15:30.13Apocolol
15:30.37phyberFinalX: they should just make it say "Kael's Gaff"
15:30.43FinalXtrue ;)
15:31.38SilverstormUhuru: the latest one on Wowace is working just fine
15:32.54Apocois the ptr still up?
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15:39.53Stanzillano
15:42.19UhuruSilverstorm the latest is not working fine on my client
15:43.27SilverstormI dunno then, what kind of error are you getting?
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15:45.51SilverstormI'd suggest posting on the wowace forums in the agUF thread
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15:47.23Uhurudon't remenber errors, i juste dl the r62957, works fine for the moment, all 62957.XX have bugs
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15:57.59DARKGuyhaha, just when we're about to go kill illi... server down
15:58.00DARKGuylulz.
15:59.47Aerrhaha
16:01.27CIA-4103neotron * r73698 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: When disabling the addon, unregister all events.
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16:04.15FinalXDARKGuy: "You are not prepared!!!" -> Turalyon down
16:04.36Aerrhahaha
16:05.26DARKGuyrofl FinalX
16:05.31DARKGuyxD
16:05.50Aerrwtb servers up so i can mess around with making this addon
16:05.54DARKGuysomething like that, it was like RL: Goooooooo *everyone runs... wtflag... *crash**
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16:06.19Aerri always screw up doing sql servers for acent
16:06.39DARKGuythat's some complicated shiz :P
16:06.58Aerrmeh. learning that shit isnt a priority
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16:08.06DARKGuyI say, if blizzard takes a few realms out for "maintenance" instead of taking them all out, it would be better
16:08.33Aerrno
16:08.38Aerrthose would be full instantly
16:08.45DARKGuy:/
16:08.46Aerrinc server crashes
16:09.19Aerri mean really, like 400-500 ppl in southshore crashes it, what would happen in the lowbie areas
16:09.40DARKGuyXD
16:09.44DARKGuydamn.
16:09.50FinalXremembers the opening of the gates to Ahn'Qiraj
16:09.59FinalX*KABOOM*
16:10.05Aerrhaha
16:10.12FinalXGamemasters were banning level 1's in the area back then.
16:10.21Aerrlol concecrate from 40 pallys= dead
16:10.30Aerrservers dont seem to like that
16:10.36ckknighthehe
16:12.41steevanyone else seeing Parrot as borked because of LibParser?
16:12.45DARKGuyso my mail notified addon is working ^^
16:12.52DARKGuy*notifier, even
16:13.01Aerrwewt
16:13.04Aerrmy servers up
16:13.18DARKGuyyay
16:13.52Aerri need to figure out the lua for this totem warning
16:13.54Aerr>.<
16:14.20steevwhat totem warning?
16:15.01CIA-4103Mars * r73699 10/RefillRemind/: Created folder
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16:16.06Aerroh, im going to me making a totem timer of sorts
16:16.15Aerrthat will let you know when to totemic recall
16:16.18Stanzillathat went wrong, Mr. Mars
16:16.19Aerrfor max mana
16:16.20CIA-4103durcyn * r73700 10/RefillRemind/: No, you don't post your addon to /wowace/, use trunk or branches. There's documentation for this you should've already bloody well read.
16:16.27CIA-4103Octane666 * r73701 10SpamMeNot/ (5 files):
16:16.27CIA-41SpamMeNot:
16:16.27CIA-41- Word list updates.
16:16.27Stanzillafast durcyn is fast
16:16.34durcynstupid people are stupid
16:16.41Stanzillaindeed
16:17.43CIA-4103Sorata * r73702 10LibStickyFrames-2.0/LibStickyFrames-2.0/LibStickyFrames-2.0.lua:
16:17.43CIA-41LibStickyFrames-2.0:
16:17.43CIA-41- Removed :UpdateFrameColor from available API, it was being called when needed so it shouldn't have been needed anyway.
16:17.43CIA-41- Add API to change overlay colors
16:17.44CIA-41- Remove frame arg from :StopFrameMoving as only one frame can be moved at a time
16:17.46CIA-41- Cache unused tables and reuse them when needed
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16:20.14CIA-4103odlaw * r73703 10PassLoot/ (. Constants.lua Locale-enUS.lua PassLoot.lua PassLoot.xml):
16:20.14CIA-41PassLoot:
16:20.14CIA-41- Added a Group/Raid filter
16:20.14CIA-41- Fixed a localization
16:20.14CIA-41- Cleaned up some code
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16:22.10CIA-4103Mars * r73704 10RefillRemind/: Created folder
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16:23.13CIA-4103Mars * r73705 10RefillRemind/ (Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua RefillRemind.toc): RefillRemind: Initial commit; early development state; so no embeds.xml, no forum thread, and please no touches without asking me!
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16:27.46LukianLibAbacus-3.0\LibAbacus-3.0.lua:24: attempt to index global 'COPPER' (a nil value)
16:28.01LukianSpecialEvents-Loot-1.0\SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua:80: attempt to concatenate global 'GOLD' (a nil value)
16:28.03Lukianwut? :(
16:28.04Xinhuan2.4.2 issue
16:28.10Xinhuanthey changed about 200 global strings
16:28.16Xinhuanone of which is to remove that GOLD
16:28.31Psycho|WorkBitches trying to steal all my GOLD
16:28.36Mars85omg?
16:29.15Mars85bad idea to force addon authors doing common localization stuff by self O.o
16:29.17ckknighttouches RefillRemind's special place without asking first
16:29.28Chompers:o
16:29.32Psycho|WorkI was trying to think of something like that ckknight but you beat me to it.
16:29.37Vangualsuch addon groping
16:30.06durcynat least he committed it to the right fecking path that time
16:30.09DARKGuyilli is so effing hard.
16:30.12Mars85bad ckknight!
16:30.27Xinhuanwhat's there to refill remind about :d
16:30.39Xinhuanthere are already addons that refill reagents automatically :)
16:30.56Mars85the idea is to REMIND and not to refill :P
16:30.56Lukianto remind you to stop up when joining a group?
16:31.04SnagoRemind you to actually go to those vendors?
16:31.08LukianMy hunter went to an instance with two ammo left the other day :D
16:31.19DARKGuyXD
16:31.19Xinhuanlol Lukian
16:31.28profalbertLukian: 2 stacks or 2?
16:31.30kenlyricPTReagentFu tells me when I'm low, StealYourCarbon refills for me
16:31.31Lukian2! :D
16:31.37Xinhuandon'tcha love it
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16:32.04Xinhuani notice it when my spells on my bars has a number in the corner that says single digits :D
16:32.16Mars85PTReagentFu has no custom item support :(
16:32.24DARKGuyhaha, we got wiped :p
16:32.50profalbertif autorefill would work on Soulshards as well *sigh*
16:33.01Lukianprofalbert, I have too many soulshards
16:33.02Xinhuanthey just need a new talent
16:33.07Xinhuanget 2 Shards instead of 1
16:33.15Xinhuanchance* to get 2 shards
16:33.17LukianI was playing my warlock today and didn't have eeShards
16:33.17kenlyriceeShards
16:33.23kenlyriclet's you limit how many shards you have
16:33.23Lukianit sucked
16:33.27Xinhuan20/40/60/80/100%
16:33.29Lukianmy bags kept getting fully
16:33.31Xinhuanwould warlocks get this talent?
16:33.35Aerrno
16:33.35Xinhuanif introuced
16:33.35Psycho|WorkThey need a new talent that makes nothing ever cost a soul shard ever.
16:33.39kenlyriconly problem with eeshards is it only goes down to 10
16:34.13profalbert2 days ago, I was the only warlock in the raid. I wasted 15 shards on summoning people in 2 hours
16:34.21kenlyricsolo you don't need very many at all, I usually just ditch having a shard bag.
16:35.03Aerri hated learning fights on new bosses on my lock
16:35.13Aerr45 soulshards on archimonde easilly ftl
16:35.38Aerrhealthstones, summoning a pet to sac, soulshatter, it blows
16:35.40Xinhuanwhy does archi need 45 shards :o
16:35.57profalbertthere's no trash. soulshatter, healthstones, pet every try
16:35.58Aerrbecause i have to drop a soulwell off CD ?
16:36.00profalbert--> 15 trys
16:36.08CIA-4103StiviS * r73706 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
16:36.08CIA-41AckisRecipeList:
16:36.08CIA-41- AckisRecipeList.lua:
16:36.08CIA-41-- Fixed wrong 'sorttype' check.
16:36.08CIA-41-- Moved out the forgotten UI english texts, go to their locale file.
16:36.09CIA-41- enUS added new strings
16:36.11CIA-41- esES added new strings
16:36.14Xinhuanok but soulshatter? lol
16:36.50profalbertXinhuan: hmm... you're right, it's not needed often when fighting archi
16:36.57Aerrits as an example.
16:37.06Aerrsoulshards are used like candy
16:37.08profalbertbut RoS
16:37.16Aerri always walk into a raid with 50
16:37.27profalberti do with 28
16:37.38profalbertif they're empty in 3 hours something goes wrong
16:37.39Aerr10 charges on soulwell ftl
16:37.44Xinhuanare you the only lock or something ;p
16:37.45Funkeh`how do you have like an 'or' in lua regex "he made a sandwitch" and you want to find 'he or she'
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16:37.59Xinhuan(s?he)
16:38.02Funkeh`don't says s?
16:38.04Funkeh`...
16:38.06Funkeh`;p
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16:38.12DARKGuyIt made a sandwitch
16:38.13Xinhuanthe ? means 0 or 1 match
16:38.16DARKGuy*sandwich
16:38.17Xinhuanon the prev char
16:38.17DARKGuy:P
16:38.27Funkeh`ok try
16:38.31Funkeh`'it or she'
16:38.51Funkeh`it made a sandwitch / she made a sandwitch
16:38.56Xinhuanyou'll need 2 strmatch for that one
16:38.58Funkeh`and one of the words must me there
16:39.00Snagolua patterns don't have or
16:39.08Xinhuan2 separate function calls
16:39.14Mars85(he|she) isn't possible? O.o
16:39.14Funkeh`aww
16:39.23Xinhuanhe/she can be combined into s?he
16:39.24SnagoMars85: nope
16:39.29Funkeh`yeah
16:39.31Xinhuanbut it/she can't be combined at all :)
16:40.21Fisker-i can destroy you Funkeh`
16:40.23Snago[is][th]e?
16:40.25Funkeh`I'm trying to combine a search for badboy into 1 call xx.xxUSD=XXGold  | XXGold=xx.xxUSD
16:40.32Xinhuanthat won't work
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16:41.02Xinhuanthat would match ite, ihe, she and ste
16:41.15Xinhuanand the 4 versions without the ending "e"
16:41.16Snagoye, you'll get some false positives but it will match both it and she
16:41.30Xinhuanhe wants to match words to auto report ppl ;p
16:41.36Xinhuanso no false positives allowed!
16:41.49Fisker-just how bad is badboy?
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16:41.58Funkeh`so far it's "%d+g%%A%d+%.?%d*usd"
16:42.10Funkeh`minus that extra %
16:42.10Xinhuanits just a table of gmatches to pairs on, and gmatch
16:42.25profalbertIs there an addon, that can safe Talent-specs and auto-restore them when respecing?
16:42.33Fisker-talented?
16:42.36ChompersFisker-:
16:42.37StanzillaTalented
16:42.38Xinhuanyes profalbert, its called "Talented"
16:42.41Mars85yeah talented
16:42.43profalbertthx
16:42.44Fisker-Chompers:
16:42.45Chompersdo you know this guy: http://bp3.blogger.com/_70LyLTT84cc/Rf46oxfYekI/AAAAAAAAAAM/lyHu3PeRGWg/s1600-h/db.jpg
16:42.57Fisker-nope
16:42.58Mars85but don't forget to get talended_data too
16:43.00kenlyriccool
16:43.00Fisker-but i've seen him
16:43.02kenlyricgiant font
16:43.19Chompersi hate him Fisker-, kill him for me
16:43.26Fisker-i can't
16:43.29Chomperswith FIRE
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16:43.34Fisker-today's the last day of multiphase survey :(
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16:44.04_raneFisker-: no?
16:44.07Fisker-yes!
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16:44.24_ranewell, no.
16:44.42_ranelast day of multiphase survey that gives sso supplies
16:45.06Mars85erm according the 200 globals removed in 2.4.2 ... is there a replacement for them?
16:45.26Funkeh`lua> string.match("1", "%A")
16:45.27lua_botFunkeh`: 1
16:45.30Funkeh`feck
16:45.34Kalrothowned!
16:45.38Snagoye, I'll still do it one time per month while I'm in Nagrand anyway to collect mah gems
16:45.52Kalrothlua> string.match("1", "\%A")
16:45.53lua_botKalroth: 1
16:45.55Kalrothd'oh
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16:46.17Funkeh`what to use for /\=
16:46.23Funkeh`hmm
16:47.37SnagoMars85: Alot of global strings was renamed to only have one string for different pluralizations. See wowcompares.com
16:47.43Funkeh`lua> string.match("1xY/", "%W")
16:47.43lua_botFunkeh`: /
16:48.08Funkeh`bingo
16:48.22CIA-4103jerry 07Ace3 * r73707 10Grid/Grid2/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
16:48.22CIA-41Grid2:
16:48.22CIA-41_ Debug the drycoded code so that it works.
16:48.22CIA-41_ Add the required enUS locale entries.
16:48.22CIA-41_ Fix a bug with UNIT_PET from units not in the roster.
16:48.23CIA-41_ Better :Debug() implementation.
16:48.25Mars85mh okay thank you
16:48.33SnagoMars85: http://wowcompares.com/0428278/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua?diff=2418124 <-- Here
16:49.08steevand its only worth 9g now too
16:49.12steevthats pretty weak for a daily
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16:50.17steevsadly, ill do it because i need to get my resto shaman the epic flying training still
16:51.31Mars85mh FIX_LAG = "Smooth Mouse"; ==> FIX_LAG = "Reduce Input Lag";
16:51.33Mars85Oo
16:52.19vithoswhat's wrong with this picture.  http://i32.tinypic.com/33wqe54.jpg
16:52.57Mars85icon size is for blinds?
16:53.12vithosnope, that's not it
16:53.25vithoshint:  something about the castbar and the tooltip
16:53.36chdstYeah, that's pretty funny.
16:53.38CIA-4103funkydude * r73708 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist
16:54.04*** join/#wowace Scientology (n=lauxjm@75-132-197-55.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
16:54.14vithoswhy is blizzard so bad :(
16:54.17Mars85scare beast is a instant spell? :P
16:54.33vithosis *supposed* to be
16:54.38Fisker-ooh
16:54.40*** join/#wowace seppyk (n=blah@nat/cisco/x-3be295822f49043c)
16:54.41Fisker-they finally fixed dispelled :D
16:54.42mykxugh patch day always maks me realise how ugly the default ui is
16:54.45mykxwtb buffalo
16:54.46vithosthe patchnotes say it is, the tooltip says it is, but it's still 1.5 second patch
16:54.55Snagovithos: I find the aspect ratio quite wrong as well :P
16:55.11vithoser, 1.5 second cast
16:55.28Mars85mh is it an addon fault or is it a 1.5 sec cast for real?
16:55.28vithosSnago: i agree, buy me a used FW-900 please
16:55.37vithosit's really 1.5 second cast still
16:56.45evlFastest leveling spec for Shaman
16:56.48evlEle or ench?
16:57.07Scientologyenhance prolly
16:57.14elite3vilAck. No postal!
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16:59.23Soratathey reverted the scare beast buff?
16:59.23Xinhuanheh
16:59.27Xinhuani'll fix postal soon
16:59.36Xinhuanits 1am here
16:59.54elite3vilI shift clicked on my mail and was extremely confused. =P
17:01.42Mars85EU => still 2.4.0 => postal still fine :D
17:01.48*** join/#wowace dabujo_ (i=xx@p4FDB33BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
17:01.48elite3vilYeah.
17:01.52*** join/#wowace Tasky (n=Tasky@adsl-226-135-173.int.bellsouth.net)
17:02.01elite3vilI mailed myself 42 voids to shatter
17:02.29Mars85and what happened?
17:02.40elite3vilShift clicking did nothing in my mailbox.
17:02.42*** join/#wowace Rick8 (i=45869b7d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2182cfa9655a44ff)
17:02.52elite3vilI had to actually open the mail and click the items individually.
17:03.03elite3vilI don't know how people can function without mods. =P
17:03.11Taskyme neither
17:03.13vithosSorata: i'm not sure if they meant to or not, but it's not instant cast post-patch
17:03.23Mars85and "open all" did nothing too?
17:03.33StanzillaArrowmas1er` / Antiarc http://ace.pastey.net/87721
17:03.34Taskyoh my postal is shattered :(
17:03.37elite3vilI didn't want to open all the random green crap in my inventory =P
17:03.43Taskydoesn't even hook the UI
17:03.50elite3vilTasky: [12:59] <Xinhuan> heh
17:03.50elite3vil[12:59] <Xinhuan> i'll fix postal soon
17:03.50elite3vil[12:59] <Xinhuan> its 1am here
17:04.06Taskycoooool
17:04.31CIA-4103durcyn * r73709 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0: Hackish workaround for COPPER/SILVER/GOLD global string changes in 2.4.2. string.subs probably only work in enUS - other locales please verify.
17:04.47Pkekyo|are spelldmg gems blue or yellow?
17:04.49Mars85other locales are still 2.4.0!
17:04.56Mars85so no verify atm ;)
17:05.04durcynit checks if the global strings exist, so it's backwards compatible
17:05.08durcyndon't fret
17:05.12EvilJohn-+12 Runed Crimson Spinals are red.
17:05.24Mars85okay
17:05.30Pkekyo|yeah, can't afford +12
17:05.32Pkekyo|the normal ones?
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17:06.00elite3vilPkekyo: Straight spelldmg are red.. there's orange and purple that have +dmg+stat too
17:06.32Wogroipl_I think most single stat gems are single color as well
17:06.39Pkekyo|ok
17:06.42Taskywell, back to CS:S i guess
17:06.43elite3vilYeah, all single stat gems are a single color
17:07.12Primerhrmm, no patch?
17:07.18Pkekyo|<PROTECTED>
17:07.19NivFreakthere was a patch
17:07.19NivFreak;P
17:07.20Pkekyo|CS:S sucks
17:07.25Primerserver-side only?
17:07.27elite3vilThey really need an "Enchant all" button for shattering voids.
17:07.33elite3vilNah, there was a client-side 2.4.2
17:07.37*** join/#wowace kagaro (n=washu@12.38.10.178)
17:07.42Primeroh, duh, I haven't logged in
17:07.57*** join/#wowace `Zypher (n=zypher@adsl-69-109-115-119.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
17:08.05PrimerI wonder why they want you to log in before you get the patch
17:08.28Primerbtw, anyone use jwowupdater to update mods from curse.com?
17:08.28elite3vilPrimer: My launcher downloaded it before I could hit "Play" or "Launch" whatever the button is
17:08.34[scott]You can get the patch without logging in. Type a random pw
17:08.38NivFreakelite3vil: mine didn't
17:08.40Primerseems it doesn't work for updating curse.com addons any more
17:08.52NivFreakPrimer: I do
17:08.57Primerit always shows that there's an update available, but never downloads it
17:09.00Wogroipl_Primer: me too
17:09.26NivFreakworks for me
17:09.40Wogroipl_I don't have that problema afaik, but there were no updates for my addons for a while now
17:09.44Arrowmasterlol apparently im listed as the owner of the dell desktop and laptop my parents bought last year
17:09.55Arrowmasteri just got a call from dell about the warenty expiring
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17:10.56CIA-4103kurax * r73710 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (5 files):
17:10.56CIA-41AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
17:10.56CIA-41- Update locales
17:11.04elite3vilArrowmaster: Probably smart on their part, where if there was a problem you wouldn't have to play the "Here, talk to my parents so I have permission to talk to you" game.
17:11.10Primerwell, it seems that jwow relies on parsing the website to find updates
17:11.19PrimerI see "<em>" in the output
17:11.20StanzillaArrowmaster http://ace.pastey.net/87721
17:11.23[Liquidor]Hi all :)
17:11.42Arrowmasterelite3vil: no i think its because i made a purchase 4 years ago on the same account
17:11.42CIA-4103Sorata * r73711 10LibStickyFrames-2.0/LibStickyFrames-2.0/LibStickyFrames-2.0.lua:
17:11.42CIA-41LibStickyFrames-2.0:
17:11.42CIA-41- Fix missing locals
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17:11.51Arrowmastera business account at that
17:12.00elite3vilArrowmaster: Ah, that could do it too =P
17:12.21CIA-4103anea * r73712 10Whisp/UTF8/ (. UTF8.toc utf8.lua utf8data.lua):
17:12.22CIA-41Whisp:
17:12.22CIA-41- Added UTF8 library
17:13.04durcynnaggers.
17:13.15Primerbah, I wish I could see the patch notes...stupid wine...
17:14.09DashkalPrimer: Just posted: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440864959&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
17:14.57PrimerDashkal: thanks
17:15.35DashkalI love my blue tracker.
17:15.46CIA-4103anea * r73713 10Whisp/libs/ (. UTF8/ UTF8/UTF8.toc UTF8/utf8.lua UTF8/utf8data.lua):
17:15.46CIA-41Whisp:
17:15.46CIA-41- Added UTF8 library to libs folder
17:16.08vithos12:12:51 .-   Stromster: Greetings, Vith. This is Game Master Stromster!  I have received your petition regarding scarebeast.  Do you have a moment to discuss this issue?
17:16.09vithos12:14:37 .-   Stromster: We are currently investigating this issue.  We are working very hard on finding a resolution, and I am very sorry for the confusion and frustration.
17:16.28Primerhrmm, new mage portals
17:16.30NivFreakhrmm
17:16.32vithosso it sounds like they didn't change their mind about making it instant, they just failed at actually doing it
17:16.32ravagernlanea: whatś whisp?
17:16.36NivFreakthe buffed the darkmoon madness card
17:16.39NivFreakthey even
17:17.00SnagoBlizzard fail at the strangest things...
17:17.05*** join/#wowace kagaro (n=washu@12.38.10.178)
17:17.18NeoTronit seems to me like they did change it to only increase range
17:17.19Mars85sometimes I wonder why is there a PTR
17:17.20NeoTronnot make it distant
17:17.27NeoTrons/distant/instant/
17:17.29*** join/#wowace dylanm (n=dylanm@c-68-62-4-140.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
17:17.39NeoTron>> Scare Beast: The range on this spell has been increased to 30 yards.  <<
17:17.47Aerrinstant!
17:17.49SorataAlot of times there are last minute changes that don't make it into the patch notes, I'm hoping this is one of them :)
17:17.49Aerrlulz
17:18.00AneaRavagernl: It adds a pane on top of your chat editbox whenever you whisper someone; in the pane you can directly review the conversation. There's a thread on the forums with screenshots and a featurelist:)
17:18.11NeoTronthe patch notes are specifically changed in that post to remove the "instant cast" change
17:18.12kenlyricGOLD
17:18.13pastamancerAnea: you probably don't need the entire utf8 library
17:18.14Antiarc"Ability: Blade Flurry: This ability can no longer hit critters as its secondary targets and will now use a proper range calculation for all secondary targets. "
17:18.18AntiarcWTF does that mean?
17:18.22DashkalHeh, as a druid I rather hope it stays at 30 yards and non-instant :p
17:18.27NivFreakAntiarc: it won't burn charges on rats
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17:18.31DashkalAt least I'll get that split-second to attempt a charge...
17:18.34kenlyricAntiarc: seems very straightforward to me
17:18.38NeoTronin fact the patch notes in the the downloaded includes the instant cast change while the forum posted one does not
17:18.43AntiarcI was more thinking about the range thing
17:18.49NivFreakah
17:19.00NivFreaknot sure about that one :)
17:19.03AntiarcRight now, it seems to select the closest target within melee range of the rogue that isn't the rogue's target
17:19.08AntiarcI'm wondering what they'd change.
17:19.08kenlyricprobably that it will hit the mobs closest to you?
17:19.13AntiarcIt already does that
17:19.22PrimerIf a character’s personal rating is more than 150 points below the team rating, they will earn points based on their personal rating instead of the team rating.
17:19.27Primerhaha
17:19.29Primerno more selling points!
17:19.35Mars85means that it will ignore critters
17:19.56Aneapastamancer: Actually I do if I want to do proper (de)capitalisation.
17:20.05AntiarcIt makes sense that they'd change it for warriors, since Sweeping Strikes has charges
17:20.08AntiarcBut Blade Flurry doesn't.
17:20.49Mars85But mabe it hit critter instead of an interesting target
17:21.10Aneapastamancer: If I wouldn't include the data-file I wouldn't be able to do name-lookups if a name has characters with accents etc. This is quite common on european servers.
17:21.11NivFreakhrmm
17:21.15NivFreakwowblues seems terribly broken
17:21.21NivFreakis there a better blue tracker now days?
17:21.30DashkalNivFreak: http://blue.cardplace.com/
17:21.36NivFreakdanke
17:21.37Dashkalthanks charon again
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17:22.11pastamancerAnea: ah right... you can't just ignore all multibyte characters
17:22.14PrimerVoid Reaver’s Arcane orbs now generate combat log entries.
17:22.40SnagoAntiarc: In my experience the range of Blade Flurry is (or was) slightly more than normal melee range
17:22.40NivFreakPrimer: if only we needed them now!
17:22.41NivFreakhaha
17:22.45CIA-4103anea * r73714 10Whisp/ (UTF8/ Whisp.toc core.lua embeds.xml readme.txt):
17:22.45CIA-41Whisp 20080513:
17:22.45CIA-41- Fixed problem with utf8 character sets.
17:22.45CIA-41- Added zhTW translation, thanks to NightOwl.
17:22.45CIA-41- Added some extra sanity checks.
17:22.57PrimerHeh, my guild sucks, we still run him
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17:23.33pastamancerAnea: just be aware that utf8upper and utf8lower can generate a good bit of garbage because they go character-by-character
17:24.51Fisker-slaps pastamancer around a bit with a large trout
17:25.23ravagernlanea: Very nice! I've always been looking for something like it, I know there's addons like wim or cellular that make their own windows, but I prefer to have something less heavy :)
17:25.35Aneapastamancer: mmm... yes I considered that... but the alternative is that I work with hashes, but then I'll have to run through the entire history table each time a message arrives, each time the pane is shown, etc. I would have to test it, but its choosing between 2 evils ;-)
17:25.36ShotAnea: seems NightOwl was getting the same problem in both of our addons
17:25.48starlonHmm somehow my addon is causing this http://ace.pastey.net/87702
17:26.09pastamancerAnea: you could memoize the results if it becomes a problem
17:26.15Shotnames are saved in complete upper case, but then to display, they're formatted by uppercasing the first character and lowercasing the rest
17:26.39ShotI added a workaround for zhTW to skip the recasing, haven't had a response from NightOwl on it yet
17:26.47Ackis-anyone know if we need chatsettingsfix for 2.4.2?
17:27.09Lywellyn~lart Ackis-
17:27.09purlbeats Ackis- into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy
17:27.13Ackis-lol
17:27.17pastamancerShot: http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/UTF8/utf8.lua
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17:27.29AneaShot: Yes indeed. I ran some tests today, but it appears that struppper/lower on strings that contain multibyte chars foo up completely, hence the utf8-lib.
17:28.51AneaPastamancer: Will have to think that over ^^ Never been a fan of saving data in multiple places, adds so much extra complexity. But well, guess it's worth looking at.
17:29.06ShotNightOwl only ever mentioned a problem with the strings after they were split into 2 cases again, apparently when the whole name was put into strupper it came out fine
17:29.09Shotshrugs
17:29.15CIA-4103funkydude * r73715 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: Change phase trigger
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17:32.03Mars85haha read durcyns comment just yet.. yeah sorry just force of habit of bad-setup local svn :/
17:32.23pastamancerAnea: http://www.lua.org/pil/17.1.html pretty simple if you're calling ToName with the same argument(s) frequently
17:33.20Primerdoh, wine is deadlocked
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17:34.37KuraxErr, so they removed some constants?
17:34.59Kurax[2008/05/14 01:29:00-2-x1]: LibAbacus-3.0\LibAbacus-3.0.lua:24: attempt to index global 'COPPER' (a nil value)
17:35.05kenlyricGOLD
17:35.17profalberthow many bosses does it take in Hyjal Summit to gain 1.1k Rep?
17:35.29Kurax[2008/05/14 01:29:00-2-x1]: Prat-Prat 2.0 (71730)\Prat_Modules\modules\Substitutions.lua:848: attempt to index global 'ICON_TAG_RAID_TARGET_STAR' (a nil value)
17:35.37AneaPastamancer: Gotta fly now, will have a look at that later tonight, also on the thing Shot just mentioned that capitalising an entire string does not break with utf8.
17:35.51NeoTronI must say I like the lua arrays startign at 1.
17:35.53*** part/#wowace Anea (n=ernst@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl)
17:36.05NeoTronso much "x.length-1" type constructs when arrays start with 0
17:36.42CIA-4103ackis * r73716 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
17:36.42CIA-41AckisRecipeList:
17:36.43CIA-41- Update for 2.4.2
17:37.03Funkeh`Ackis-,
17:37.13Ackis-sup?
17:37.15Funkeh`pm
17:37.18Kaaosa<Kurax> [2008/05/14 01:29:00-2-x1]: LibAbacus-3.0\LibAbacus-3.0.lua:24: attempt to index global 'COPPER' (a nil value)
17:37.28KaaosaThis one seems to have caused my interface to completely tank :|
17:38.04Mars85I love that EU get updates one day after US :>
17:38.20Mars85so we often don't have to care about addon errors :)
17:38.37Ackis-Funkeh`: not authed brb
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17:39.29kenlyricwtf
17:39.37kenlyricthis mod stores profile information in every namespace
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17:41.43stavmar_Kaaosa: same boat here
17:41.52stavmar_32 errors, mostly with Parrot
17:42.24kenlyricit only killed King of the Jungle for me
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17:44.00CIA-4103next96 * r73717 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
17:44.00CIA-41AckisRecipeList:
17:44.00CIA-41- Update locale koKR
17:44.08KaaosaI log on to 50 or so errors :\
17:44.23Ackisthere were some globals changed with the patch
17:44.28Zergrethanybody seen p3lim recently?
17:47.41Dashkal"Yes, there is a bug in this tooltip." Looks like scare beast is supposed to be IC?
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17:49.17kenlyrichmm, this hud doesn't let me move things in a group
17:49.20kenlyricthat's somewhat annoying
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17:50.06GitHub147libdatabroker-1-1: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-7655ff9
17:50.08GitHub147Allow caller to pass a pre-populated table to NewDataObject
17:50.10GitHub147http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/commit/7655ff9801c598afa9ad5a6f4a29c8d8edf80417
17:50.12GitHub147libdatabroker-1-1: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-bdbc513
17:50.14GitHub147Minor memory optimization
17:50.16GitHub147http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/commit/bdbc513351e02e6907b192915f49c71275658b82
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17:50.58sdoublePolymorph: Mounted creatures will no longer remain mounted while polymorphed.  <- =[
17:51.17Killmoreanyone know if with 2.4.2 "death replay" are back in Recount ?
17:51.18Rick8Has anyone had problems with Skillet?
17:51.43MarstiRick8 no
17:51.58Rick8I haven't used it before today, but I'm getting a very long lag whenever I start a Trade Skill.
17:52.06Zergrethdoes anybody know if the clearcast sound for mages works again in 2.4.2 D:
17:52.09Zergrethim missing that one
17:52.15Zergreththere was something about sounds in the patchnotes
17:52.40SnagoZergreth: purl has
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17:52.46Snago~seen p3lim
17:52.57purlp3lim <n=p3lim@ti500710a080-0438.bb.online.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 5m 30s ago, saying: 'yw'.
17:53.06CIA-4103funkydude * r73718 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: cleanup
17:53.08Zergretho.O
17:53.10Zergrethnow thats useful
17:53.24Zergrethim requesting a page that delivers information about bots in this channel
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17:53.43Zergreththanks, btw
17:53.49leech2kHello all.
17:54.00Marstia lua bot is here too :>
17:54.07Rick8K, so no ideas about log lag/freeze times with Skillet then.
17:54.17Rick8*long
17:54.18ZergrethMarsti, i know that one D:
17:54.37leech2kkk, I don't want to start a flameware... but what IDE/editor does everyone use for wow/lua?
17:54.48Zergrethnotepad++
17:54.53leech2kflamewar*
17:55.04Marstiyeah notepad++
17:55.17Kaaosa^
17:55.19leech2kdoes notepad++ have syntax highlighting for lua?
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17:55.22Zergrethyes
17:55.32leech2kSweet, I will go try that.
17:55.42Marstiyeah... if it wouldn't i wouldn't use it
17:55.52Marstiand it does good highlighting
17:55.53Zergrethjust to give you a little example how many languages notepad++ supports
17:55.55Snagonotepad++ here too
17:56.01Zergrethmy resolution is 1280*1024
17:56.02leech2kBeen using vim for win32, but it has been a bit sluggish.
17:56.02Kuraxnp++ is slow, very slow
17:56.10leech2ko dear :-(
17:56.12Zergreththe language menu almost hits the bottom
17:56.17Marstican't canfirm that Kurax
17:56.20SnagoKurax: Still faster than I can type :P
17:56.33Vonhintenvisual studio
17:56.38ZergrethKurax, slow?
17:56.44leech2kwow visual studio for lua?
17:56.47Zergrethhow is that baby slow
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17:57.02KuraxYeah compared to EmEditor
17:57.05Marstivisual studio has a version which supports WoW addon creating yes
17:57.34stavmar_leech2k: notepad++
17:57.47ZergrethKurax, define slow
17:57.51MarstiWhat means slow? I type and what I typed appears instantly... so no feel of slow
17:57.57KuraxHmm, lag when scrolling
17:58.31leech2kWell thanks for lots of great replies. Now for the next question.
17:58.42leech2kIs there anyway I can stop people from patching my mod?
17:58.45SnagoI can agree that it sucks with really large files, but otherwise I havn't noticed any lag
17:58.49Arrowmasterno
17:58.59Brunerswhats the name of the addon the removes the blizzard graphic on the action bars?
17:58.59Kuraxleech2k: On Ace? no
17:59.03leech2khmm
17:59.07leech2kAlright.
17:59.14Brunersthe eagles on the end only
17:59.24Arrowmasteron wowace you can get dirs locked
18:00.08leech2kSome people decided to assist me I guess. But, they pretty much bloated my mod with unneeded features. Now I need to clean it up again.
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18:00.37Ackiswhich mod?
18:00.41leech2kdgks
18:00.46KuraxTell them not to do that again then
18:00.54FroMasterAnyone recommend a replacment for LootLink? A searchable & linkable of items in game...
18:01.04leech2kYeah, I need to contact them.
18:01.13KuraxAtlasLoot!
18:01.17Marstisanity2
18:01.19leech2kAll they asked to do was fix it for an upcoming patch... in the process they added the junk.
18:01.30Marstibut it is no longer maintained :(
18:01.57Marstiwtf ... a command window came up and disapeared Oo *fear* dunno why :/
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18:02.12leech2kowned imo
18:02.23NeoTronleech2k: out of curiosity, what does the addon do and what junk did they add?
18:02.54leech2kNeoTron: It notifies you and your group of killshots, originally.
18:03.13leech2kNeoTron: But, they added tons more events and sounds. So its pretty much spam.
18:03.28NeoTronah
18:03.32leech2kIts very handy for arena with fd and stuff.
18:03.49leech2kBut now it broadcasts your deathstreak and all this other junk... that I don't care about.
18:04.29leech2kIts probably time for a complete rewrite anyways. I have learned abit since I first wrote it.
18:04.35FroMasterSo there's no good replacement for LootLink?
18:04.41MarstiHm wouldn't it be nice if you can customize what it should announce?
18:05.06leech2kMarsti: I will be doing that. Just most thing off by default instead of stuck on.
18:05.33Marstino I mean you input "Feign Death" and add it to the list
18:05.41leech2kSo which framework... for a mod author about to rewrite their mod :-)
18:05.43Marstiinstead of having a list of pre defined stuff
18:06.08leech2krhmm
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18:06.37leech2kMarsti: I don't really get what you mean.
18:06.46NeoTronleech2k: Ace3, Dongle or Rock I suppose
18:06.53Marstidongle?
18:06.58NeoTronyeah?
18:06.59leech2kIs there a comparison page of the 3 anywhere?
18:07.06NeoTronnot that I know
18:07.08mykxis this 'reduce input lag' option in controls a new thing with the patch or have I just now noticed it heh
18:07.16Marstinever heard about it
18:07.19NeoTronmykx: been there for a very long time
18:07.23leech2kRock is cknights project right?
18:07.38NeoTronhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Dongle
18:07.39NeoTronyes
18:08.01mykxregemmed all my stuff, lacking in the crit department now but I'm at like 166 haste
18:08.06leech2kand is ace3 backward compatible with ace2?
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18:08.12Arrowmasterno
18:08.13NeoTronno
18:08.13CIA-4103Allara * r73719 10HitsMode/ (Changes.txt HitsMode.lua HitsMode.toc):
18:08.13CIA-41HitsMode:
18:08.13CIA-41- Fix for enUS fallback
18:08.17leech2khmm
18:08.25Marstileech2k: I think your addon currently has a list: "Announce Feign Death", "Announce Misdirection" and so on; but it is limited to pre-defined stuff
18:08.28Arrowmasterno framewords are compatable
18:08.37NeoTronthe whole point of not "fixing" ace2 and making ace3 instead is because backwards incompatible changes were needed
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18:09.32leech2kMarsti: Currently it only tracks deaths. No abilities.
18:09.39Balstor___~last Elsia
18:09.49leech2kMarsti: So if there is no death, you know its an fd.
18:09.55Marstioh okay
18:10.17Balstor~seen Elsia
18:10.20purlelsia <i=elsiarow@p57A2731D.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 22h 7m 29s ago, saying: 'heya'.
18:10.27leech2khmm
18:10.41leech2kThey guy who changed my goes by omgwtfbbq.... that explains a bit.
18:10.50leech2kI think he runs a bg guild.
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18:11.40Zergrethback
18:11.51ZergrethKurax, i've been opening files with up to 10k lines in np++
18:11.58Zergrethno scroll lag or something similar
18:12.05Zergrethdunno how that happens for you
18:12.10Xinhuanwow
18:12.12Xinhuandid anyone notice
18:12.18Xinhuanmultiline text is now indented
18:12.23Xinhuanin scrollframes
18:12.23KuraxHmm
18:12.30Xinhuanno more of those "fake" messages
18:12.34Xinhuanin /2
18:12.49Xinhuanif it wraps to multilines that is
18:12.56KuraxMaybe my problem then
18:12.56ZergrethXinhuan, could explain this a little more? i dont understand
18:13.11Zergrethmight be the language barrier ;D
18:13.35ZergrethKurax, maybe, but i cant think of anything causing this o.O
18:13.37Xinhuantest test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test <--- this wraps to multiple lines
18:13.46Zergrethmh
18:13.47Xinhuanthe 2nd line onwards is now "indented"
18:13.52Zergrethahh
18:13.54Zergrethalright
18:14.10Zergrethheh, fake messages never worked on my side
18:14.20sdoubleyeah, people did that all the time.  They would type a long line and then type text in the format of the normal text and make it look like someone else said something.
18:14.26Zergrethclass colored names ftw
18:14.29Marstidoes this work for this stuff where you made spaces and it "jumped" too?
18:14.35Xinhuanno
18:14.40Marstiand timestamps ftw
18:14.43Zergrethye
18:14.46Xinhuanbecause adding extra space would just contribute to the previous line
18:14.46Zergrethtimestamps too
18:14.48Xinhuan:)
18:14.50Zergrethi love timestamps
18:14.58Zergrethi wonder why blizzard didnt add them in the first place
18:15.11Zergrethanyway, afk again :f
18:15.21sdoubleyeah, they really should have.
18:15.40KaaosaPatch day makes me cry :[
18:16.25CIA-4103funkydude * r73720 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add a little colored 'BadBoy' to the report warning for, um, fancyness.
18:17.13Marstihm you modify the system message? Oo
18:17.19CIA-4103xinhuan * r73721 10Postal/ (Modules/Rake.lua Modules/Wire.lua Postal.lua): Postal: - Fix errors that resulted from changes in wow patch 2.4.2. Currently compatible with regions that aren't running on 2.4.2 yet.
18:17.28Maldiviackknight ?
18:18.13Marstiis fish down?
18:18.41Maldiviawasn't down 5 minutes ago, just very slow
18:18.52Marstihm okay
18:19.21Marstiand does not have the badboy change yet :(
18:19.34Funkeh`Marsti, ?
18:19.51Marstijust want to look how you did it
18:20.04Funkeh`did what?
18:20.11Marstiadd a little colored 'BadBoy' to the report warning for, um, fancyness.
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18:20.25Funkeh`changed the global variable
18:20.40AnarchyAo:( what happened, why did today's patch break parrot?
18:20.42Marstihm okay I've not seen the "warning"
18:20.56Taskytodays patch broke everyting.
18:20.56Funkeh`warning? :o
18:20.57Marstithought you changed the "xyz reported" system message
18:21.02kenlyricOMGO BOUJDOJOSGJPOJGPOIJE:LKJSG
18:21.10Funkeh`Marsti, I did
18:21.14Funkeh`sort of
18:21.15Marstihm okay lol
18:21.16leech2khmm svn slow right now?
18:21.57Marstiand what happens if I report manually?
18:22.35durcynTasky: everything?
18:22.36Funkeh`you see the default message
18:22.41Funkeh`Marsti,
18:22.49Marstiokay
18:24.36SnagoDoes 2.4.2 have a new ToC #?
18:24.42Marstithought fish is nearly instant
18:24.55durcynSnago: no
18:25.18Snagothat's kinda strange considering how much has changed
18:25.27durcynthree global strings?
18:25.51Marstisomeone said 200
18:26.19durcynaye, but only COPPER/SILVER/GOLD cause any immediate headaches for most people
18:26.57KuraxSeems no mod is using Babble-2.2 now, I can remove it finally
18:27.11Marsti?
18:27.15Marstiwhat?
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18:28.13Marstijust looked through my local files
18:28.14Marstifew hours ago
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18:28.30Marstiand there were references to babble-2.2-zone and so on
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18:28.43Xinhuanumm most mods will still use babble 2.2
18:28.50KuraxNot in mine =p
18:28.53Xinhuanparticularly the zone ones
18:28.58Xinhuanand the boss one
18:29.16Xinhuanbecause those zone names and boss names still need to appear in config menus
18:29.22MarstiTouristLib-3.0 does use it too
18:30.20Marstiremoving it is a bad idea :P
18:30.28KuraxUm, prat is using Babble-Class-2.2
18:30.38KaaosaTime for my traditional patch day nap.
18:30.39Funkeh`prat is abandoned
18:30.46leech2khmm, I seem to have gotten a lot of requests for other languages
18:30.48Funkeh`don't expect updates
18:30.48KaaosaHopefully everything will be magically fixed when I wake up
18:30.57MarstiGna prat must not be abonded :(
18:31.12Funkeh`all mods get abandoned eventually
18:31.12Diaoreplace it with chatter
18:31.17Funkeh`lifecycle
18:31.22Funkeh`and replaced by other mods
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18:31.32Marstiis there a comparison list?
18:31.40Funkeh`of?
18:31.48Taskywell what can I replace my prat with?
18:31.49MarstiI dislike switching without knowing the differences
18:32.07Marsticomparison of Prat vs Chatter features (and so on)
18:32.08Funkeh`we're not selling a product here, why would we make a comparison list
18:32.12Funkeh`you try it
18:32.13Funkeh`you like it
18:32.16Funkeh`you keep it
18:32.24MarstiI like Prat :P
18:32.29Funkeh`then keep it
18:32.34Marstiokay
18:32.34Funkeh`no one said to remove it ><
18:32.40dylanmIt's not like it's terribly hard to try something else out.
18:32.40leech2kas long as it works atleast :-)
18:33.16Aerrwhats this addon. i saw it before, and it would show a seperate healing bar, like a cast bar, to the person that you were casting the heal on
18:33.24Marstidylanm: the problem is that its so easy to oversee little but nice features which are gone
18:33.26Aerri was assuming a grid addon
18:33.45Funkeh`Marsti, then they werent very useful then were they
18:33.49Funkeh`if you don't notice
18:34.17MarstiOh they might be useful but not occuring everytime
18:34.19pastamancerAerr: visualheal?
18:34.53pastamancerAerr: or are you talking about the incoming heals functionality that is included with grid?
18:34.53Diaohttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12738.0
18:34.55leech2kPitbull will also add the estimated life to be healed to the bars.
18:34.56Diaochatter thread
18:34.59leech2kNot sure if that wi what you mean.
18:35.00Diaoyou can see what features it has there
18:35.30Aerrpastamancer, it looks like the grid healing bar, but show it like a cast bar seperately
18:35.32ckknightMaldivia: yes?
18:35.44Diaogrid has a healing bar?
18:36.07pastamancerhttp://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/images/1/14/Grid_Frame_HealingBar.png
18:36.16Aerryes. look at the unit when you start a heal. it shows how much its going to heal as in the hp bar
18:36.18evlTwins - A ledge to a kill^H^H^H^Hwipe
18:36.30MarstiJust for interest.. what's the reason Chatter was created instead of Prat continued?
18:36.41Maldiviackknight: nothing, just a mind-fluke from here :)
18:36.48ckknightk
18:36.52durcynMarsti: Antiarc got bored one day, you see.
18:36.56CamciPrat is not Chatter...?
18:37.00Camcinow*
18:37.07durcynCamci: No.
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18:37.25Camcioh..
18:37.26Camciok
18:37.33Maldiviackknight: was just thinking of the new |4x:y; and Deformat, but then remembered, that it doesn't change anything :)
18:37.36Diaowhoa updated addons and half my stuff is broken
18:37.46ckknight:-P
18:37.51Diaolibabacus, wholib, specialevents-loot-1.0 all broken
18:38.00Diaocausing other addons to error :(
18:38.02durcynAbacus-3.0 should be working
18:38.04Xinhuangood thing i don't use any of those
18:38.06Aerrpastamancer, looks like it
18:38.06XinhuanHAHA
18:38.11Aerrvisualheal that is
18:38.27MaldiviaDiao: COPPER,SILVER,GOLD="Copper","Silver","Gold"; -- should help a bit on abacus :)
18:38.33durcynDiao: what the hell are you running that still uses old AbacusLib?
18:38.43Diaoer
18:38.44Diao3;
18:38.45Diao3.0*
18:38.48Diaonot the old one
18:38.55durcyn73709?
18:39.14Diaouh let me check my addons folder
18:39.25Diao73709 yeah
18:39.44Diao[2008/05/13 11:36:28-3250-x219]: LibAbacus-3.0\LibAbacus-3.0.lua:435: bad argument #4 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)
18:39.57durcynare you us or eu
18:40.06KuraxSo where have those constants gone
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18:40.16Maldiviadurcyn: I have some fubar plugins that still use version 2
18:40.16Diaoline 437 as well
18:40.17Diaoi'm US
18:40.22DiaoenUS
18:40.29Xinhuanreplaced by COPPER_AMOUNT, SILVER_AMOUNT and GOLD_AMOUNT
18:40.34KuraxOk
18:40.40Xinhuanwhich are "%d Copper", "%d Silver" and "%d Gold"
18:40.50KuraxAnd why
18:40.58Maldiviaso COPPER = COPPER_AMOUNT:gsub("%%d ", "")
18:41.11dylanmI think this is better than the way they were doing it.
18:41.13durcynLibAbacus-3.0.lua lines 435 and 437 have nothing to do with GOLD/SILVER/COPPER, Diao
18:41.13Xinhuanmay nto work in all languages
18:41.27Xinhuansome languges could have the %d behind
18:41.32Xinhuannot necessaraily in front
18:41.32durcynoh, bollocks
18:41.34MaldiviaXinhuan: works in en, fr, es and de :)
18:41.36Diao?
18:41.38dylanmhttp://wowcompares.com/0428278/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua?diff=2418124
18:41.40Xinhuanand some languages like Chinese may not have the " " space
18:41.44Xinhuanbetween the %d and the text
18:42.01CIA-4103kemayo * r73722 10LootSink/core.lua: LootSink: GOLD, SILVER, COPPER
18:42.07Shotwouldn't COPPER_AMOUNT:match("%d+") work fine?
18:42.27Xinhuanno?
18:42.31durcynthey removed fecking HOURS_ABBR and HOURS_ABBR_P1
18:42.34KuraxShould works fine
18:42.35durcynassholes.
18:42.49Diaolol
18:42.53dylanmFORMATTED_HOURS :p
18:42.56Xinhuandepends on how u use
18:42.57KuraxUntil some locale using romanic numbers..
18:43.08leech2komg
18:43.15leech2kthe noob hardcoded all the waves.....
18:43.17leech2kwavs
18:43.19leech2kugh
18:43.33Marsti?
18:43.40dylanmEr, wrong one.
18:43.43leech2kI think I might cry.
18:43.56dylanmThey're all endowed with the |4 thing... I thought we had that functionality already though.
18:44.10Xinhuanthere is |1
18:44.10leech2kThey guy who updated my mod hardcoded everything in... and broke the submods
18:44.23kenlyricpunish
18:44.25dylanmXinhuan: Was it different? It seems as if this new one can look behind far or something.
18:44.32Xinhuan|1 isn't perfect
18:44.34Marstileech2k: Just revert to last version u made :P
18:44.36leech2kand he erased all my comments lol
18:44.44Xinhuanx |1singular;plural
18:44.48leech2kyeah I didn't want to remove his work but I might have to
18:44.49Xinhuanwas the format where x is a digit
18:45.07Xinhuanthis means "11" and "13121" all result in singular
18:45.15Xinhuanbecause it only checked the last digit
18:45.24Xinhuanso |1 is broken and unused
18:45.52dylanmSeems like this new one can do "# combo |4point:points;
18:46.11MarstiHm does that mean that you don't have to care about replacing this |4x,y stuff?
18:46.20Xinhuangenerally no
18:46.26Marstijust say %d => your number and it's okay?
18:46.51Xinhuanlike i said, depends on usage
18:46.55KuraxDAYS = "|4Day:Days;";
18:47.00Apocowtb chatter plugin that fixes this stupid new linebreak issue
18:47.05Xinhuanmost addons only use GOLD, SILVER and COPPER for forward translation, not backwards
18:47.09KuraxWhat's this damn |4 means
18:47.16Xinhuanmeaning, most addons use those globals to translate forward
18:47.23Xinhuannot backwards to extract the numbers
18:47.57CIA-4103kemayo * r73723 10LootSink/core.lua: LootSink: Actually, let's to the GSC thing locale-independly, probably.
18:48.01Xinhuan|1 also used ; as the delimiter
18:48.07Xinhuanso the plural word can only be one word
18:48.30Xinhuan|4 uses ; as the end marker and : as the delimeter, so your singular/plural stuff can be multiwords
18:48.56Snagoand what is |2 and |3?
18:49.07Xinhuanunused stuff
18:49.14Xinhuan|2 will d/c you
18:49.17Xinhuanforgot what |3 is for
18:49.19Kuraxlol
18:49.20Snagostrange
18:49.26Fisker-|3 is the one that d/c's you
18:49.27Kuraxwill ban you
18:49.44Taskywhy hasn't postal r73721 been reflected on files.wowace?
18:49.57Funkeh`Tasky, you're impatience
18:50.01Fisker-because it's not updated yet
18:50.02Funkeh`impatient, even
18:50.09Taskyvery :)
18:50.10dylanmIt's not instant.
18:50.10Fisker-wait for 10-40 minutes
18:50.13Taskysorry
18:50.18Funkeh`can be up to an hour
18:50.31Taskyit's been 40 minutes...
18:50.38TaskyFunkeh`: ok
18:50.50Fisker-Funkeh` what about operation cleanup?
18:50.50KuraxNot seeing |1 exists in GlobalStrings.lua
18:50.53Vonhintenhmm, what does this change to blade flurry actually do?  Is it a range nerf or increase?
18:50.54Xinhuani commited at 2.17 am, its 2.50 am now
18:50.57Fisker-buried and gone?
18:51.07Xinhuani told you, |1 is "broken", and is unused
18:51.11dylanmKurax: I think they realized it was bad.
18:51.14Kuraxok
18:51.14Xinhuanbecause |1 only checked for the last digit of the number
18:51.19Xinhuannot the whole number
18:51.39Taskyand does anyone happen to have a link to the java wowace updater?
18:51.45Xinhuangoogle
18:51.52Taskynot being my friend right now
18:51.54Snago~jwu
18:51.54purlJWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917
18:51.59VonhintenjWowUpdater
18:52.07durcynXinhuan: pretend I'm an idiot, what's the syntax for using |#
18:52.13RaydenUni2my mods are throwing a fit
18:52.14KuraxSo, |4 is working on FontStrings just like |t or |c right?
18:52.19XinhuanDAYS = "|4Day:Days;";
18:52.26Nandiniis it possible that |1 isn't even intended for singular/plural? perhaps it's meant to be used for another declension not present in english
18:52.32RaydenUni2pitbull is like "you want your target's health bar to match his health? why?"
18:52.36Xinhuanunlikely
18:52.46Xinhuani think |3 is for declensions in russian
18:52.51RaydenUni2augh
18:52.54RaydenUni2no updates to pitbull
18:53.10durcynXinhuan: right, but what uses that, stringlib?
18:53.17Marstiis pitbull broken?
18:53.26Xinhuannobody knows
18:55.24Xinhuanno one's complained yet, so i'll assume no
18:55.28RaydenUni2wowace is from the trunk isn't it?
18:55.32RaydenUni2pitbull is going haywire
18:55.32dylanmYeah.
18:55.37RaydenUni2doesn't update bars quickly
18:55.42RaydenUni2sometimes doesn't show them
18:55.43dylanmThat's odd.
18:55.50RaydenUni2i have 71xxx and trunk is 73xxx
18:55.54RaydenUni2but wowace doesn't want to update
18:56.01RaydenUni2oh wait
18:56.02RaydenUni2that's trunk
18:56.04RaydenUni2of wowace
18:56.16Taskytake's my pitbull about 3-10 seconds after i change area (player_entering_world) for my party members' bars to show...
18:56.21Kritterpitbull freaks out on me with fader issues in raid adds/leaves but that's been true a while.
18:56.29RaydenUni2no this is just from the patch today
18:56.35VonhintenTasky, that's been happening for a while
18:56.38RaydenUni2wow also told me a lot of mods were throwing errors and i should shut some down
18:56.49Taskyok so im not completely crazy
18:57.22charonAntiarc: i wonder if i should merge the optimized CLEU handler soon, so that i can blame it on patch day if it breaks ;)
18:57.51charon(i've been running it for a few weeks)
18:57.58MarstiUpdate ( Hunter) - It looks like Scare Beast still takes 1.5 sec and isn't instant as mentionned in the patch files notes. The notes on the official site have been updated to reflect it changes and we can assume that the 1.5 sec casting time is intended.
18:58.10Xinhuancharon, i think we should rewrite the pet module too
18:58.12Marstimmo-champion
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18:59.06leech2kDo comments in the lua file change memory usage or load time at all?
18:59.27Xinhuanby less than 3%
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18:59.31leech2k?
18:59.48Xinhuani said it... by less than 3%
18:59.53leech2kSeriously?
19:00.26leech2kIn that case I guess its not a good idea to have my changelog built into the lua file. lol
19:00.30Xinhuanthe majority of loading time difference will come from the file size itself, not the actual parsing
19:01.08Xinhuanthis means if you load a 20 mb savedvariable, vs a 10 mb one
19:01.22Xinhuanand the 10 mb difference is due to all the extra -- [33] comments
19:01.36leech2kkk
19:01.38Xinhuanthe difference is load time is only really due to the file size being read
19:01.42Xinhuanand not the parsing
19:01.43Taskywhy not just have a changlog.txt ?
19:01.53Xinhuanlazy
19:01.56leech2kyep
19:02.01Xinhuansometimes easier to update one file, instead of 2
19:02.06leech2kIt was like 5 lines and hardly worth a separate file.
19:02.11leech2kBut, not its like 30
19:02.21Marstiyou have the SVN log so why a changelog in the files?
19:02.30Xinhuannot everyone uses SVN
19:02.41leech2kMainly for notes on features certain devs are working on.
19:02.43Xinhuanand svn log messages are usully not meant for human reading
19:02.48leech2kWhat works, what doesn't.
19:02.49Marstithen you have a CVS log :P
19:03.00Taskylol
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19:03.51Xinhuan...
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19:03.54Xinhuanthey removed the cooldown on [Enchanting: Void Shatter] but my cooldown on it from yesterday hasn't expired.
19:03.58Marstileech2k>Mainly for notes on features certain devs are working on. <- sounds like a todo.txt
19:04.03Xinhuanlike what the fuck
19:04.09Marstilol Xinhuan
19:04.13durcynXinhuan: ye, same thing happened with PTR copies
19:04.26leech2kMarsti: Yes, but I don't want 7 differnt files laying around :-)
19:04.42Marstiyeah so there is just one todo.txt :P
19:04.44Xinhuantodo.txt should just be embedded in comments
19:04.49Xinhuanin the actual lua
19:05.01leech2kChangelog.txt, todo.txt, readme.txt
19:05.03Taskysee in my other projects
19:05.07MarstiXinhuan: does that mean without the patch the CD would be gone? Oo so now you have infinite CD?
19:05.08leech2kall combined :-)
19:05.16Taskyi use changelog.txt to keep track of todo
19:05.19Xinhuancooldown is removed
19:05.26Xinhuandon't think that's hard to understand
19:05.28TaskyAdded / Changed / Removed / Todo
19:05.35durcynno, it won't go on cooldown again, but he can't cast it until the current one times out
19:05.43Marstiyeah i know that CD is removed from it in patch
19:05.51Marstibut you told your's is still there
19:05.51durcynexisting cooldowns are not reset
19:06.19Marstiso my question is ...is it like 2h, 1h, gone or is it like infinite
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19:06.27Taskylol
19:06.27Xinhuanits GONE
19:06.28durcynit's 23 hours after he last used it.
19:06.29Xinhuantotally GONE
19:06.35Xinhuanhow hard is that to understand?
19:06.38Taskyno he's asking
19:06.42Xinhuanlike, no cooldown
19:06.44Taskyif you are stuck on cooldown
19:06.47Taskyindefinantly
19:06.55Xinhuanyes, its stuck on cooldown with some 15 hours remaining
19:07.01Xinhuansince i used in 8 hours ago
19:07.08Marstionly one person who understands me :(
19:07.10durcyni'm pretty sure I already said "it won't go on cooldown again, but he can't cast it until the current one times out"
19:07.22durcynwhich was plain english as far as i can tell
19:07.26Taskyhe's asking if the patch broke the cooldown and it will never expire
19:07.34durcynno, god damn it.
19:07.52Xinhuan[5/14 03:03:47] <Xinhuan> they removed the cooldown on [Enchanting: Void Shatter] but my cooldown on it from yesterday hasn't expired.
19:07.57Xinhuani dunno, i thought what i said was pretty clear
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19:08.02Tasky(Marsti) Xinhuan: does that mean without the patch the CD would be gone? Oo so now you have infinite CD?
19:08.10dylanmI'm pretty sure he'd use all caps if it were just forever stuck.
19:08.11Taskyinfinite sounds pretty clear, too.
19:08.22dylanmThat'd be appropriate.
19:08.28durcyn~choke Tasky
19:08.28purlACTION squeezes Tasky till he turns blue like papa smurf
19:08.37Taskykinky
19:08.38Taskykeep it up
19:09.04Taskyi have to warn you tho, i have mono
19:09.16Marstiokay okay i unterstand
19:10.16Taskysorry for being a mediator. i won't do it again. just let you both not understand what the other is saying.
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19:11.46Marstino reason for sorry
19:11.54Marstithanks for your support
19:11.57Diaolol
19:12.12Marstifor saying sorry
19:12.35Taskyok now i need a mediator
19:12.39Taskylol
19:12.47Marstilol
19:14.21KuraxDamn earthquake is still killing people
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19:15.49CIA-4103kemayo 07Ace3 * r73724 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Totems, totems, totems!
19:16.34CIA-4103jerry 07Ace3 * r73725 10Grid/Grid2/modules/StatusVoiceComm.lua: Grid2: bugfix
19:16.38sbbrutallus sucks :(
19:16.38Nandinihooray the honor sink trinket is available :)
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19:18.23Xinhuanappears a lot of ppl lost arena points
19:18.25Xinhuanin the patch
19:18.52CIA-4103toadkiller * r73726 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassBar.lua:
19:18.52CIA-41AutoBar :
19:18.52CIA-41-- Save ButtonFacade Colors
19:18.55Xinhuanits as if ppl got arena points adjusted, so if their PR isn't within 150 of the TR, they earn points by the PR rather than TR (uncertain/unconfirmed)
19:21.19Diaoyep
19:21.20VulcanusXinhuan: Postal-2.1.73721\Modules\Wire.lua:26: attempt to concatenate global 'COPPER_AMOUNT' (a nil value)
19:21.24Diaoi figured that would happen last night
19:21.29VulcanusEU realms (no 2.4.2)
19:21.47Nandiniit's possible that last weeks points were recalculated from last weeks games based on the new rules
19:21.58Xinhuanah fuck
19:22.00Nandinii didn't see my points change, and my PR is within 150 of my TR for all teams
19:22.02Xinhuani'll fix that
19:22.26Marstikemayo = Xinhuan ?
19:22.30Diaoyep
19:22.35Kuraxlol
19:22.36kenlyricTekkub: ping about stealyourcarbon: should it generally be using up 15mb on load?
19:22.36Marstik
19:22.40Kuraxno
19:22.56Kuraxnot same person
19:23.13Tekkubriiiiight...
19:23.16Marstimh okay
19:23.35kenlyricI dunno, is that a yes or a no?
19:23.40KemayoMarsti: We look very similar.
19:23.52Tekkubyou broked it
19:23.56KemayoI mean, depending on your font, a K and an X...
19:23.57kenlyricI just installed it
19:24.05kenlyricI haven't had a chance to broked
19:24.07kenlyricit
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19:24.24Tekkuband it's patch day so your WDB is probably cleared
19:24.39kenlyricit's been like this for a while
19:24.42TekkubSYC forces a few tooltips to get cached
19:24.49MarstiSorry .. I was confused because you did a submit and Xinhuan works on the bugfix :P
19:24.51Tekkubbut you *just* installed it
19:25.10kenlyricI just reinstalled it
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19:25.24kenlyricI tried out another addon for a few days but it was fail
19:25.28MarstiThought Kemayo is Xinhuans svn nick
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19:26.14Tekkub48.672 KiB here
19:26.19Tekkublike I said, you broked it
19:26.22ZealotOnAStickUgh.  WTF happened with Parser 3 and 4?
19:26.31durcynZealotOnAStick: huh?
19:26.36Xinhuansomething happened?
19:26.36KemayoIt is at least polite of kenlyric to not call my addon fail by name. :D
19:26.46durcynZealotOnAStick: other than being completely deprecated by 2.4.0?
19:26.50kagaroits a patch day today?
19:26.55hypetechyes
19:26.56ZealotOnAStick2.4.2
19:26.57Marstilol
19:26.57Hell-Razorany recommendations for unit frames and a bar? i like my wow ui to be as minimal as possible and out of the way as much as possible
19:26.58kenlyricwho says it was your addon?
19:27.04kenlyricI might have used something else that failed!
19:27.05kagarogota go find the patch notes ..
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19:27.07hypetechParrot is brokdeded
19:27.16Kemayokenlyric: Well, you said something failed, so I just assumed...
19:27.18KolieI just put out a new curse client beta if anyone is interested.
19:27.33Taskyi didnt like the curse client
19:27.36kenlyricso, it's obviously conflicting with another addon.
19:27.39ZealotOnAStickParrot, pretty much anything trying to play with Parser-3.0 or 4.0
19:27.59KolieTasky, that may be something I'm willing to fix. What didnt you like?
19:28.06durcynZealotOnAStick: have you been living under a rock for the past six weeks?
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19:28.22ZealotOnAStickDo caves count?
19:28.32TaskyKolie: dont remember, it was on XP and im using vista now. if you want some serious input i can reinstall it.
19:29.05MarstiIt does support Curse addons only?
19:29.10ZealotOnAStickNo, stuff that has been working fine until today (things updated YESTERDAY) are brokeded today, with 2.4.2.  I've not been able to be up on things as much as I'd have liked for the past few weeks.
19:29.15KolieIt supports any site with a psyn format.
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19:29.29Marstiwhatever psyn is :P
19:29.31Koliethe wowace mirror at aceaddons.curse.com supports psyn.
19:30.01Kolieand ofcourse, curse.com itself has psyn support.
19:30.13Marstihttp://www.cakewalk.com/products/Project5/PSYN_II_lg.htm hm? :P
19:30.26reviveri have a quick question or two about the WAU, anyone free that knows about it?  =]
19:30.45TaskyWAU is abandoned.
19:30.47Tasky~jwu
19:30.48purlJWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917
19:31.08MarstiWAU works fine especially after the patches few weeks ago
19:31.08Jadriehas LibAbacus been fixed yet? cause it's spamming me non-stop :(
19:31.21Taskybroke my entire interface dir
19:31.24Taskyso i dont trust WAU
19:31.30Marstimine not :P
19:31.48leech2kwhat mod puts the screw on the minimap?
19:31.59Marsti90% of addons i'm using are on wowace
19:32.09KolieMe too.
19:32.18haste*does some math*
19:32.24Sorataleech2k: LibRock i think
19:32.24reviverTasky, if the WAU is abandoned, why is it still on the front page of wowace and not this JWU?
19:32.30leech2kSorata: Thanks.
19:32.36Marstiand the remaining are Fizzwidget & some on WoWi & Curse => no reason for using something different than wau
19:32.36Koliereviver, curse client ftw.
19:32.40Taskyreviver: good question? :)
19:32.57Jadriehttp://pastebin.com/d641d594c  <- The abacus error I'm getting
19:33.10haste1.1% of the "add-ons" I use are from wowace, amazing D:
19:33.20FroMasterCan anyone recommend a replacement for Telo's LootLink? I'm looking for a good loot db that I can search and link ingame
19:33.22reviverKolie, curse has had trojans/viruses in the past, i don't trust it to be honest... not only that, when major patches happen, curse crashes like crazy
19:33.34kenlyricwhat's the other addon to track mod resource usage?
19:33.41SlakahFroMaster: ludwig
19:33.45Marstioh thats so true reviver
19:33.47kenlyricsecond ludwig
19:33.50Koliereviver, the curse client has never had a trojan or virus.
19:34.02Taskyhe said nothing about the client.
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19:34.15Marstibut it potentially could because its hosted at curse
19:34.25reviverKolie, i can't speak of the client because i haven't used it, but there have been addons posted on curse that have had viruses in them in the past.
19:34.33Marstiin addition curse was extremely long down at 2.4 release
19:34.37XinhuanFroMaster: note that ludwig doesn't actually store any items, so on every patch, you won't be able to search items you haven't seen before since the patch
19:34.43FroMasterLudwig on files.wowace.com?
19:34.46dylanmNo.
19:34.49Vonhintenin game loot cachers are kinda pointless these days.. all the major sites (wowhead, thottbot, etc) give you the ability to copy and paste an item link in game
19:34.50Xinhuanneither can you search the text within the item's description (i think)
19:34.50TaskyMarsti: name a site that wasn't.
19:34.53leech2kIs there and good place for Rocklib documentation?
19:34.57KolieWell I wasn't speaking of curse.com. I was speaking of the Curse Client.
19:34.59leech2kany*
19:34.59dylanmhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5174-Ludwig.html
19:35.00VonhintenWhy bother loading 5-10MB of cached item data
19:35.03MarstiTasky Wowace :P
19:35.05Slakahkenlyric: Option House or AddonUsage
19:35.10Marstiand Wowinterface
19:35.24TaskyBoth of those had downtime when 2.4 came out.
19:35.25KolieAnd WUA had a virus anyways.
19:35.36Marstithey had but not as long as curse
19:35.44FroMasterVonhinten: I'm more interested in searching all the Alchemy tradeskills and linking them and I'm not a Alchemist
19:35.50Marstiit had because ads
19:36.01Taskyno
19:36.02SlakahVonhinten: its all LOD anyway. So you only pay the price when you actually need to use it
19:36.02leech2knm, I think I am on to something
19:36.05Taskythat doesn't make sense
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19:36.12Taskyads would be hosted off the server
19:36.15Marstiwhich were blocked if you switched of Javascript at IE
19:36.29KolieMarsti, the fact remains that it distributed a virus.
19:36.40VonhintenSlakah, my load times were horrible until I got rid of LootLink
19:36.44Pkekyo|anyone know in which language 'Deus' means 'God'?
19:36.50Taskylatin?
19:36.52reviverTasky, thanks for filling me in about JWU.  I'll look into it and see if I have any problems.  =]
19:36.56Arrowmasterprobably latin
19:36.59CIA-4103kemayo * r73727 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0: GOLD, SILVER, COPPER. This might even work.
19:37.02Taskyreviver, np
19:37.13krkai'm also guessing latin, or latin offsprings
19:37.53kenlyrichence, Deus ex machina
19:38.10hastepoor god :(
19:38.12Marstithe only client you can trust is one you wrote and who isn't published :)
19:38.30TaskyMarsti: amen :)
19:39.00Pkekyo|Tasky: maybe so, but I can't imagine a TV show being subbed in Latin? :p
19:39.00ckknightMarsti: well, Kolie writes the curse client :-P
19:39.02durcynDiao: ping
19:39.03SlakahVonhinten: LootLink isn't LOD, but Ludwig is.
19:39.05Marstibut if the ZIPs are infected then you can do nothing
19:39.23Marstickknight yeah but it is published :P so it could be hijacked ;)
19:39.25ArrowmasterPkekyo|: probably a language based on latin then
19:39.34TaskyPkekyo|: latin-derived language.
19:39.44Diaodurcyn: pong
19:40.20Pkekyo|spanish-ish? :p
19:40.28Koliemarsti, if any addon on any update had a virus in the lua your screwed.
19:40.41Pkekyo|it uses the symbol ~ loads of places....seems spanish-ish to me
19:40.47Pkekyo|but then again, I don't know spanish >.<
19:41.01Brunersis there a module in chatter that prevents me from changing chatframe width over a specific size?
19:42.16Taskyyo se un poco.
19:42.22Hell-Razoris there anyway to change the target icon thing when you click on somebody? that round red circle underneath them (for an enemy)
19:42.28Hell-Razoror any way to make it more noticeable ?
19:42.32Arrowmasterno
19:42.42Kolieedit the texture in memory?
19:43.00MarstiBtw... I don't want to make your work bad but why should ppl using only wowace addons use curse client?
19:43.10kagaroanyone got a list of api changes that went in yet ? cant seem to find any ont he ui & macro forums
19:43.22KolieMarsti, Why does it matter if they "only use wowace addons"
19:43.23durcynKemayo: that breaks backwards compat
19:43.46KolieThe curse client is an addon manager that supports psyn addon feeds. wow ace supports it.
19:43.57Marstibecause then they could just use WAU
19:44.07KolieThey could just use curse client by the same logic.
19:44.07ArrowmasterWAU isnt maintained
19:44.12KolieAnd that.
19:44.25Vonhintencurse client open source?
19:44.32KolieNo its not open source.
19:44.44VonhintenWhat a bummer
19:45.00Marstiwhat could be a security risk
19:45.04KolieNot really, if you want something, you can submit code that does it and I can include it.
19:45.05Kemayodurcyn: How so?
19:45.18KolieOr suggest what your interested in coding to me.
19:45.25Vonhinten<- doesn't use download managers, unless I can see the code
19:45.27MarstiArrowmaster: But it works ;)
19:45.29VonhintenBut I'm picky
19:45.54MarstiWhat happens if curse is down?
19:45.54Arrowmaster<- doesn't use download managers
19:46.08durcynKemayo: x_AMOUNT is nil on non-2.4.2 clients
19:46.10KolieMarsti?
19:46.12MarstiArrowmaster how to keep up2date with addons?
19:46.25Arrowmastersvn update *
19:46.36Koliethe curse.com website is no longer tied to the client.
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19:46.40kenlyrichttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/filecpl.php?action=favorite
19:46.48Koliethe client runs its own set of webservices, and has been for awhile.
19:46.49StanzillaArrowmaster http://ace.pastey.net/87721 < :P
19:47.04MarstiKolie: but you said it uses curse wowace mirror?
19:47.16KolieWhich is not curse.com
19:47.46nevcairielKolie: the psyn files on that curse page directly reference the .zips on files.wowace.com .. i checked yesterday :)
19:47.52Kolieyea they do.
19:47.57CIA-4103totalpackage * r73728 10Snoopy/ (Snoopy.toc core.lua):
19:47.57CIA-41Snoopy
19:47.57CIA-41- updated for 2.4.2
19:48.05MarstiSnoopy? :O
19:48.08Kolie11•12nevcairiel11• nice isnt it?
19:48.14Marsti~whatis Snoopy
19:48.26nevcairielI know whats not, using colors :P
19:48.35Silviu-## Notes: Easy and lite inspecting
19:48.39Kolie1,4 your just jealous.
19:48.39Silviu-:)
19:48.47Chompersthe colours
19:48.48MarstiARGH
19:48.50Marstimy eyes
19:48.50ChompersTHEY BURN
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19:49.01leech2kis parrot broke also?
19:49.15Kolieleech2k, dunno but thats the second time I heard someone say that today.
19:49.29leech2kdoesn't even seem to be loading for me... meh
19:49.32breser_So am I blind or is there no decent list of changes from 2.4.1 to 2.4.2 to the API?
19:49.33reviveris there a benefit in having all of the embeds separately "installed" in your addons folder?
19:50.01breser_reviver: Slightly faster loads in some cases.
19:50.08Coreyless addon memory?
19:50.13kenlyricawww. abacuslib doesn't like me
19:50.19CIA-4103kemayo * r73729 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0: Okay, okay, pre-2.4.2 people can have it work, too.
19:50.32kenlyriceerie
19:50.39CIA-4103xinhuan * r73730 10Postal/Modules/Wire.lua: Postal: - Fix last fix for pre-2.4.2 users.
19:50.48reviverbreser_, does it ever result in longer loads in some cases, or is it a win/win situation?
19:50.56Arrowmasterbreser_: probably not since the patch just came out
19:50.58breser_Shouldn't.
19:51.11reviverbreser_, thanks.
19:51.18Xinhuanerrie
19:51.20Xinhuaneerie
19:51.25breser_Arrowmaster: Well usually there's the list that someone puts together of stuff they announced or did Blizzard just ninja change stuff and tell us nothing this time...
19:51.27Xinhuanthat Kemayo made a commit at the same time i did
19:51.39Arrowmasterbreser_: for major patches yes
19:52.06Arrowmasterbreser_: they never tell us the small details
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19:52.34Xinhuanbut if you're in this channel or #wowuidev, you would generally know the changes
19:52.46Xinhuani prefer addons to break on patch days, then i fix them, so that forces people to update ;p
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19:53.22Marstiin addition people can see which one are abonded
19:53.28stew_aDid they tweak the who system in 2.4.2?
19:53.36Marstiexcept people do touches on foreign addons ;)
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19:53.55Marstiwhy do you think so stew_a ?
19:54.00Xinhuanyes they did stew_a
19:54.04Xinhuanthey replaced a bunch of globals
19:54.07Xinhuansome 200 or so
19:55.51durcynDiao: I was going to commit a DAYS/HOURS/MINUTES/SECONDS _ABBR fix, but kemayo broke me, sec
19:56.04Diaolol k
19:57.01Brunershow many healers do you guys run with on kalecgos ?
19:57.21Xinhuan9
19:57.34Xinhuan2 per group, +1 floating
19:57.39CIA-4103durcyn * r73731 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0: 2.4.2 fix for time _ABBR(_P1) strings
19:58.44NeoTronBruners: most kills had 8, but now we roll with 9 because it's safer
19:59.12kenlyricdo I not understand the meaning of group?
19:59.13NeoTronwhich works out to be 2 for 3 groups, 1 for 1 group and 2 for the 5th portal when the first MT goes in
19:59.20kenlyricaren't there 5 groups in a raid?
19:59.28NeoTron4 groups that go in
19:59.35NeoTron1 group with 3 tanks, 2 misc
19:59.57NeoTron1 misc in g5 is a healer, 1 is a dps that goes in whenever he wishes
20:00.05NivFreakhrmm
20:00.11NivFreakso gorefiend or bloodboil
20:00.12NeoTrontanks go in in portal 1, 3, and 5 optimally
20:00.15NivFreakI'm thinking gorefiend?
20:00.18NeoTrongorefiend is easier
20:00.29NeoTronunless people are too stupid to do ghost :P
20:00.33NivFreakthat's quite possible
20:00.47NeoTronand the fun thing is.. you might not know people are too stupid until the wrong person gets ghost 2 months later :P
20:00.54XinhuanNeoTron, its easier for tanks to go in portals 1, 3, 4
20:00.59Xinhuani.e 4 group tank rotation as well
20:01.06NivFreakNeoTron: yea, I wish there were some basic tests for this shit outside of raids...
20:01.25Xinhuanrather than 135
20:01.52NeoTronXinhuan: 1,3,5 works fine for us
20:02.02Xinhuanthere is more room for mistake, and also allows for the tank getting ported, so it becomes 1,2,4
20:02.11Xinhuansince 1,2,4 is the same as 1,3,4
20:02.12Snagohehe, a "ghost machine" outside BT you could have ppl practice on would be sweet
20:02.21NeoTronwe one-shotted kalecgos last week
20:02.26NeoTronI think our strategy works fine ;-)
20:02.34Xinhuanok, but i'm just pointing out 1,3,4 is a lot easier than 1,3,5 ;d
20:02.44NeoTronwe keep 2 healers out for g5 because of portal randomness sometimes putting 1-4 too close to eachother
20:02.53sicawith 1,3,5, we sometimes had a tank ported and sometimes the group which had to go with him didn't make it into the portal :(
20:02.55NeoTronso I don't think it would be (for us)
20:03.10Xinhuanu shuld try with 1,3,4 if you have issues
20:03.19NeoTronbut.. we don't
20:03.22Xinhuanmeaning the tanks use a 4 portal rotation, along with the 4 groups
20:04.26NeoTronone shot with 1 kill <-- not going to change the strategy
20:04.32NeoTrons/kill/death/
20:04.52Brunersone Bartender4 question, will the bars be changed to Ghost bars on teron ?
20:05.14nevcairielunless you turned that off
20:05.23nevcairielwonders if he implemented that option yet
20:05.43profalbertnevcairiel: it can be turned off?
20:05.46Xinhuannev means, "try it, use 3,4,5 or ctrl3,ctrl4,ctrl5 as fit" :D
20:05.48Brunersi just saw they changed when i was playing with eyes of the beast
20:05.50MarstiTeron is a pet isn't he?
20:05.59CIA-4103pprovost * r73732 10Violation_EffectiveHealing/ (. Violation_EffectiveHealing.toc embeds.xml): Violation_EffectiveHealing: Updated to embed Roster-2.1 which is missing from some people's installations.
20:06.01profalbertit's both
20:06.16profalbertpetbar and 1st action bar
20:06.22nevcairielah i implemented the option
20:06.26nevcairielprofalbert: sure, turn of Possess Bar
20:06.43nevcairiel*off
20:06.50profalbertah thx
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20:07.26Marstiso what means Ghost bar?
20:07.52profalbertMarsti: the bar that replaces the main-actionbar when teron turns you into a ghost
20:08.13CIA-4103aileen 073.0 * r73733 10FuBar_FarmerFu/:
20:08.13CIA-41FuBar_FarmerFu:
20:08.13CIA-41- dev branch
20:08.39MarstiHm thought that is technically like a Stance-switch to a "new" stance / a stance with new spells
20:08.55*** part/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys)
20:10.13NeoTronsame mechanic as the death knight "ghoul res" will use I gather
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20:14.33Coreyghoul res?
20:15.00Xinhuandeath knight mechanic
20:15.00Funkeh`Silverstorm|afk, how goes the mail block
20:15.07CIA-4103aileen 073.0 * r73734 10FuBar_FarmerFu/FuBar_FarmerFu/:
20:15.07CIA-41FuBar_FarmerFu:
20:15.07CIA-41- dev branch
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20:18.55Pazza_IDENTIFY Johnny5
20:19.05Silviu-smacks F'Pazza_ with a red Swingline stapler
20:19.17Funkeh`now go change your password
20:19.21Funkeh`lol...
20:19.23Silviu-;)
20:19.33Hell-Razorrofl @ Pazza_
20:19.47CIA-4103stewart * r73735 10AIBot/Core.lua: AIBot: Updated tag patterns
20:19.52Funkeh`Pazza_, you should add it to a startup script like all the cool people
20:20.13Pazza_yeah shit happens
20:20.21hasteauths manually.
20:20.26Tasky....sigh
20:20.27Funkeh`lol
20:20.32Funkeh`I ghost myself in my startup script
20:20.49Tasky< just changed my pass to johnny5
20:20.50Funkeh`makes things easier
20:20.57hasteI don't get disconnected too often, and I always do it in the server window :3
20:21.01Pazza_this irc client is dumb... it is scripted... but it executes it too soon
20:21.19Pazza_Johnny #5 needs input
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20:21.48Xinhuani'll suggest you change every account you have that uses that pw too ;d
20:22.16Pazza_you can go digg things for me
20:22.31Funkeh`diggs Pazza_
20:22.33bresergoes to digg up some gay porn videos.
20:22.39Apocoso thats odd.
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20:22.49ApocoBAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN doesnt fire when mounted
20:23.11Pazza_is gay and straight... hense why he goes over breser's mom's house everynight
20:23.21SunTsu~seen Toadkiller
20:23.31purltoadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-18-174-5.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 17h 11m 7s ago, saying: 'yes'.
20:23.35KuraxS4 not coming with 2.4.2 right?
20:23.46dylanmNot immediately.
20:23.52KuraxWhen then?
20:23.54SunTsu~seen Toadkiller_
20:23.55purltoadkiller_ <n=dnester@adsl-75-18-174-5.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 13h 52m 14s ago, saying: 'Apoco: Here is another way of putting it.  If I interview u & u give me sample code like that, wait u wouldnt even get to the interview stage...'.
20:24.00ShotSoon.
20:24.05nevcairielthey said they would announce S4 at least 2 weeks in advance
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20:24.24dylanmAnd that's all they've said.
20:24.25Snagolol
20:24.28Kuraxkk
20:24.43Funkeh`can't say many people that say "u" would get to an interview stage
20:24.49Funkeh`fucking retard
20:25.03Taskywut r u talkin bout
20:25.25Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
20:25.30Funkeh`oh, damn
20:25.32Taskyhey now
20:25.35Silviu-Funkeh` one "nice" feature request to colour names in chat when it annouces by class ? :)
20:25.36Taskysense of humor plz
20:25.43Silviu-Funkeh` @ bigwigs
20:26.21Funkeh`Silviu-, nice, but ultimately not helpful
20:26.30Silviu-Sometimes yes :)
20:27.06Pazza_Someone who has access... please go update WhoLib-1.0... like 501.. blizzard removed global string WHO_NUM_RESULTS_P1
20:27.16Pazza_line 501*
20:27.27Funkeh`people still use that? :o
20:27.42Pazza_WIM does... cause people nagged me to..
20:27.43dylanmPrat does, I think.
20:27.53dylanmOh, you're _that_ Pazza!
20:27.54Taskyprat is broked :(
20:27.54Funkeh`Pazza_, wotcha need it in wimfor?
20:28.16Pazza_i don't remember... but I believe who look ups? lol
20:28.30Funkeh`>.<
20:28.32dylanmWhenever you open a conversation to someone in WIM it looks up their class.
20:28.33leech2kDoes dueling flag you for pvp?
20:28.34Pazza_it queries users you wsp
20:28.36dylanmAnd all that jazz.
20:28.46dylanmSo you have to do a SendWho.
20:28.48Funkeh`oh
20:28.56Funkeh`and why do you need a lib for that
20:29.33Funkeh`you can do it in what, 3-5 lines?
20:29.36Pazza_manages queuing of /who requests cause blizzard doesn't want to add an API of player lookups
20:29.56dylanmWell, you don't want to send it too quickly. That's the only difficulty.
20:29.59Pazza_they like to have a cooldown and only one way to get it
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20:30.04Taskyyeah there's a rate limit correct?
20:30.16Pazza_it has a couple second cool down
20:31.49Pazza_actually... i guess don't do the change yet...
20:31.56Funkeh`lol
20:32.24Pazza_reason they removed WHO_NUM_RESULTS_P1 was because of the stupid singularity/plural flag.. unless Deformat was updated to accomodate that in it's patterns.
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20:32.58Funkeh`not much has been updated
20:33.33NeoTronBlizzard needs to add a loot event that doesn't involve parsing strings
20:33.57Obelixprimeis everything supposed to be broken today?
20:34.05Funkeh`no
20:34.46NeoTrononly your heart
20:35.07Obelixprimelibparser has an error in it =/
20:35.08TaskyLOL
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20:35.34Funkeh`Obelixprime, that's a damn shame
20:35.37Diaodeformat is broken too
20:35.45Obelixprimelol
20:35.57Funkeh`Obelixprime, You know that's useless since 2.4?
20:36.03Funkeh`i.e. delete it
20:36.07Obelixprimeroger that
20:36.20Xinhuandeformat isn't broken
20:36.26Xinhuanits addons that use deformat that are broken
20:36.33syerennevcairiel, is it possible to hide hotkey text on Bartender4? It's quite annoying :(
20:36.43Xinhuanaddons that use the blizzard global strings need to generate 2 strings out from the |4 strings to send to deformat
20:36.46Funkeh`this is why Im glad I don't use these shitty libs
20:36.55Xinhuanfunk, the lib isn't broken
20:37.02Xinhuanits the addons that use it that are broken
20:37.19Xinhuandeformat doesn't take into account the new |4 stuff
20:37.27NeoTronwhat is |4?
20:37.30Xinhuanand its not deformat's responsibility
20:37.35stew_anew plural escape code NeoTron
20:37.40Xinhuanblizzard added a new plural escape
20:37.49stew_a|4singularstring:pluralstring based on the number that comes before it
20:37.51Xinhuan"%d |4day:days;"
20:37.56NeoTronhmm
20:37.57Xinhuanwill print out correctly for eg
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20:38.08Xinhuanwhen you pass in a approproirtae number
20:38.27NeoTronI assume it doesn't affect: You receive loot vs Doodboi receives loot?
20:38.37NeoTronbut only when a number is in question
20:38.38Marstioh according BT3 and hotkeys... does BT4 still just show a ' for Ctrl+Shift+X hotkeys?
20:39.08NeoTronis theer a page with all the | escape codes?
20:39.17stew_atheres one on wowwiki somewhere
20:39.19Xinhuanyes
20:39.30Xinhuanits on wowwiki, titled Escape sequences or something
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20:40.10NeoTronhttp://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences
20:40.19Marstihttp://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences
20:40.22Marstioh
20:41.28Pazza_I suggested to blizz to make an api for who requests... first problem was that they didn't want the extra load on the db servers... so i rebuted with client to client lookups... and they ignored me...
20:41.37Pazza_how hard can it be really?
20:41.38NeoTronnumber |1singular;plural;  <-- |1? what is the difference then with |1 and |4?
20:42.03MarstiNeoTron |1 is broken
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20:42.20Marstiit detects 11, 21, 31 etc as singular
20:42.37NeoTronnifty
20:42.45kenlyricnot broken
20:42.53Obelixprimeis libspecialevents-loot deprecated too?
20:42.54kenlyricapparently that's true in some crazy language
20:42.55stew_ahas anyone checked on the |3 bug in 2.4.2?
20:42.58kenlyriclike dutch or something
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20:43.09Taskypolish i think
20:43.09HjalteDamnit, I just overaggroed on one of the elementals in p2 on Illidan. I hate overaggro, because it's all my fault.
20:43.26NeoTronHjalte: except when it's omens fault!
20:43.26ObelixprimeHijalte: what do you play?
20:43.27dylanmIt's Antiarc's fault.
20:43.49NeoTronis there no way to set bold/normal using an escape sequence?
20:43.52HjalteI'm a warlock, and I just had one crit too much in melee range.
20:44.01CIA-4103ghenningp * r73736 10DemocraticReadyCheck/DemocraticReadyCheck.toc:
20:44.01CIA-41DemocraticReadyCheck:
20:44.01CIA-41<PROTECTED>
20:44.08Funkeh`why are you in melee range
20:44.24NeoTronhe was cold
20:44.31Funkeh`toasty
20:44.35HjalteFunkeh`: We are spread out in 3 groups, and the elementals pass by on the sides, and unfortunately the elemental passed by me when I shot the last bolt.
20:45.03kadrahildo you have to complete the BT quest line to get your hand of a'dal title, or the vials of eternity as well?
20:45.48Ozguli`wasn't it vial only?
20:45.59NeoTronthe wiki page says both
20:46.00kadrahili thought that was just to get the ring
20:46.07kadrahiloh :
20:46.08kadrahil:/
20:46.34NeoTronvials => get ring, bt => get teleport trinket, both => title
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20:48.49Obelixprimeanyone know why specialeventsembed is causing errors?
20:49.51kadrahilNeoTron: gotcha
20:50.01kadrahilNeoTron: we may do a guild run of kael sometime soon to get people their rings
20:50.29dylanmObelixprime: Got specific errors/
20:51.44dylanmNeoTron: No. I mean the game is pretty ignorant of what bold and italic are.
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20:52.31Obelixprimeone sec
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20:54.48ObelixprimeoShit:(1): ...t\libs\SpecialEvents-Loot\SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua:81: attempt to concatenate global 'GOLD' (a nil value)
20:54.53Obelixprimei think that's for xloot
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20:55.39Obelixprimethe other error is oShit: (2): Interface\Addons\XlootMonitor\XlootMonitor.lua:8 :Cannot find a library of SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0
20:56.23Obelixprimeand a third error is ...e\AddOns\Prat\Prat_Modules\modules\Substitutions.lua:848: attempt to index global 'ICON_TAG_RAID_TARGET_STAR' (a nil value)
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20:56.58leech2khmm
20:57.08Diaowhat's oshit? o_O
20:57.35Obelixprimeits like buggrabber
20:57.42CIA-4103ananhaid * r73737 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua:
20:57.42CIA-41BigWigs:
20:57.42CIA-41- zhCN Muru update.
20:57.43Diaooh
20:57.49Zergrethkind of, yea
20:57.55Zergrethbut i prefer buggrabber
20:57.55Diaoyeah if you fix the specialevents-loot-1.0 lib
20:58.02Diaoit'll fix xlm automatically
20:58.22Chaudwas just about to ask about that
20:58.23Zergrethanybody using beql here?
20:58.55NivFreakhahaha
20:59.03NivFreakI just had that bug happen
20:59.08NivFreakwhere I'm logged in for a while
20:59.12NivFreakand suddenly I join a raid
20:59.16NivFreakfrom the previous day
20:59.20Zergretho.O
21:00.33CIA-4103anea * r73738 10Whisp/ (core.lua locale-zhTW.lua readme.txt): Whisp 20080513-2: Performance tweak.
21:01.02JakeMwoot
21:01.05JakeMAbacus works now
21:01.53JakeMAny ideas on why Parrot stopped working?
21:03.00profalbertJakeM: with 2.4.2?
21:03.15Xinhuanprobably due to loot event parsing
21:03.28profalbertpatch comes tomorrow in EU
21:03.34profalbertI'll check then
21:03.53JakeMYeah, 2.4.2
21:04.13JakeMSlash commands aren't even registering.
21:04.32JakeMBeen getting a ton of errors all day.
21:05.03*** part/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no)
21:05.38JakeMWhoLib's throwing Deformat errors, MobMap is throwing the same money errors Abacus was
21:05.40ObelixprimeIt's broke because of the changes to the coinage constants need to change then to have _AMOUNT in the name (i.e. GOLD_AMOUNT)
21:05.48Obelixprimecould that be it?
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21:08.34JakeMI'll try it.
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21:08.57Xinhuannot that simple
21:09.06Xinhuanalso it isn't deformat's fault for not handling |4 strings
21:10.45Obelixprimei've used that to fix any error where it said it couldn't index 'GOLD'
21:10.55Obelixprimebut parrot is still borked
21:10.57kergothanyone else here using libbars?
21:11.05Marstibut thats wrong obelix
21:11.17Marstibecause the amount_ stuff contains %d
21:11.28Marstiand GOLD without amount_ not
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21:12.12ArrowmasterClassso im seeing something on the forums about an indented="TRUE" in the chat frames now and no Lua function to modifiy that, has anybody checked the ScrollingMessageFrame metatable yet?
21:13.02Brunerson omen, the TPS update frequency, higher is longer time between updates?
21:13.15ArrowmasterClassyes
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21:13.42Xelopheriswtb working version of wholib
21:13.55stew_alol
21:14.45JakeM^
21:14.47ObelixprimeMarsti: well, whatever I did, I fixed parrot
21:15.10profalbertObelixprime: just the loot-display
21:15.12profalbert?
21:15.20Obelixprimewell, it loads now
21:15.25Obelixprimeand i don't notice any other errors
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21:16.51CIA-4103jerry * r73739 10lern2count/ (Default/Bartender4_Buttons.lua lern2count.toc): lern2count: Add Bartender4 support
21:17.00ArrowmasterClasswhats the build id for the patch?
21:17.35Obelixprimeprofalbert, i'm posting my changes in the parrot thread
21:17.41profalbertthx
21:17.57StanzillaArrowmasterClass: have you seen my pastey about the chatter urlcopy error?
21:18.06FtH|DaemonaArrowmasterClass according to the patch files on mmo -> 8278
21:18.17ArrowmasterClassStanzilla: yes, cant do anything about it right now
21:18.22Stanzillakk
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21:18.56ArrowmasterClass8278? ok thats the one thats on wowcompare
21:20.07Obelixprimeprofalbert, its posted if you want to check out what i changed
21:20.27Obelixprimei'm going to go afk - gotta go to the grocery store before the raid starts :P lol
21:20.49FtH|DaemonaWoW-2.4.1.8125-to-2.4.2.8278-enUS-patch.exe [Download]
21:22.07ZhinjioGood afternoon.
21:24.48NeoTronso loot event parsing will be different in 2.4.2?
21:25.06Xinhuanonly the loot string is different
21:25.16Xinhuanand require generating 2 different strings for singular/plural
21:25.20ArrowmasterClassi am not happy
21:25.27NeoTronXinhuan: that IS the whole thing
21:25.35ArrowmasterClassCOMBATLOG is still an upvalue in Blizzard_CombatLog.lua
21:25.39NeoTronbut how does it differe?
21:25.47NeoTronbecause it is "X receives" or "You receive"
21:25.53Xinhuanit means you can't send the globalstring to
21:25.54NeoTronwhere does the plural come in?
21:25.57Xinhuandeformat library directly
21:26.03NeoTronI don't use deformat
21:26.17NeoTronI "deformat" it manually
21:26.20Funkeh`ArrowmasterClass, , so?
21:26.45NeoTronI'm just saying though, the loot strings has no plural/singular stuff before
21:27.32NeoTronXinhuan: ah perhaps you mean for coins
21:27.33NeoTronnot items
21:27.39NeoTronI don't care about coins
21:28.25ArrowmasterClassFunkeh`: means i still cant change COMBATLOG
21:30.26SnagoI don't know if I should laugh or cry. PitBull with embedded libs comes with 9 _extra_ LibStubs and 2 extra CBHs -.-
21:30.58Xinhuani think you should stop using pitbull
21:31.05SnagoAlready did :P
21:31.07ArrowmasterClassSnago: one of those isnt from LibSharedMedia-3.0 is it?
21:31.33SnagoArrowmasterClass: nope, it's still using LibSharedMedia-2.0
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21:31.44ArrowmasterClassoh
21:31.52Snagobut yes, LibSharedMedia-2.0 have a LibStub too :P
21:32.16XelopherisXinhuan, suggest a good alternative to pitbull then
21:32.30Xinhuanaguf, xperl, ouf
21:32.38JakeMStop using Pitbull?  That sounds like blasphemy.
21:32.42Diaolol
21:32.43Xelopherisdislike all 3 of those
21:32.55Xinhuanhave you seen the CPU and memory usage of pitbull
21:33.01Xinhuanits like 4.2 mb vs 600 kb
21:33.13Diaoif i could get the exact same layout on another UF i'd use it
21:33.14JakeMOh
21:33.22NivFreakhahah
21:33.23JakeMI stopped caring about that around the time I dropped 8GB of RAM in.
21:33.26Xinhuanand dogtag outstrips the CPU usage of everything else combined on your addons
21:33.34NivFreakso I'm looking at our last kaz kill's fraps
21:33.41SnagoIf you know some lua you can get very nice results with oUF
21:33.44NivFreakand one of my officers who plays a paladin
21:33.46SnagoI'm loving it! :D
21:33.49NivFreakran OOM, ran up to LoH me
21:33.53NivFreakand blew up the melee group at 1%
21:34.09XelopherisXinhuan, my computer's good enough to never care about that shit
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21:34.29CIA-41ButtonFacade_Apathy:
21:34.29CIA-41<PROTECTED>
21:34.29Xinhuannot everyone's is
21:34.33JakeMI'm with Xelo on this one.
21:34.34SnagoXelopheris: Then by all means, continue to use it. I won't :P
21:34.40JakeM2.66GHz quad core, 8GB of RAM.
21:34.46JakeMI don't even run PerfFu anymore
21:34.50Xelopherisonly 8?
21:35.00CIA-4103stormfx * r73741 10ButtonFacade_Entropy/Textures/Gloss.tga:
21:35.00CIA-41ButtonFacade_Entropy:
21:35.00CIA-41<PROTECTED>
21:35.05Xinhuanwhat is your fps, say at illidan
21:35.11Xelopheris60
21:35.14Xelopherisvsync
21:35.14NivFreakI have 2 dual core 2.0ghz xeons w/ 8G of ram
21:35.19JakeM8800GTX, my framerates are fine.
21:35.23NivFreakand I still have issues once in a while :P
21:35.26Xinhuani see
21:35.29Xelopheris9800 GTX sli is so good :)
21:35.31JakeMEven at 2560x1600
21:35.54Xinhuanwell your computer is probably only like the top 0.1% of the wow population ;p
21:35.58Diaogtx?
21:36.02Diao9800gx2 :P
21:36.20JakeMSkipping the 9800s.
21:36.24JakeMWon't be buying another NVidia card.
21:36.30Diaowhat other choice do you have?
21:36.33Diaoati cards are garbage
21:36.34XelopherisI considered doing that Jake. Then my bonus cheque came in
21:36.38JakeMATI 4870 comes out next month.
21:36.48JakeMAnd they outperform the 9800s in DX10 and 10.1 content.
21:36.57thulI run wow on a macbook :-P
21:37.02nevcairielDX10 is a marketing jok
21:37.04nevcairiel*joke
21:37.13JakeMYou don't do any game development, I take it.
21:37.20JakeMDX10.1 is hot shit.
21:37.29nevcairielYou can get all that with OpenGL
21:37.47JakeMAnd have a shitty API to work with.
21:37.50nevcairielGame companys just accept money from MS to use their new shit
21:38.15Zhinjioso .... who's got lib parser?
21:38.39Marsti"9800" was just a bad idea by nvidia
21:38.51Marstibecause 9800 means ATI 9800 what means very old card
21:39.10NivFreakit was a very good card for ATI at least :)
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21:39.23Marstiyes it WAS :D
21:39.52thulI still want to build a hackintosh, to game on
21:40.08Diaohmm
21:40.11Diaothere's no benchmarks for the new ati card
21:40.21JakeMMicrosoft internal stuff
21:41.00JakeMRoommate is a MSFT video perf dev
21:41.04JakeMWell, A/V
21:41.13JakeMMostly does video work, though
21:41.35Xinhuan[Teleport: Theramore] [Portal: Theramore], 1.5g, and 20s
21:41.37Xinhuansweet
21:41.39Diaolol
21:41.44Xelopheristhe portal was 20s?
21:41.46Xelopherisand the teleport 1.5?
21:42.31Xinhuanthe other way clearly
21:43.14MaldiviaXinhuan: yeah, a nice spell.... just... hmm... 3 years too late, could have used it for all those Onyxia runs :)
21:43.15XelopherisI thought you were pointing out blizzard's inbred-retardation
21:43.28XelopherisMaldivia, that's what horde said about FW :(
21:44.15NeoTronAnd yet they don't learn
21:44.19NeoTronsee ret pallies horde vs alliance
21:44.29Pazza_I made a fix for WhoLib-1.0... I'll pastey it.
21:45.32Maldiviawholib fix is simple - remove the WHO_NUM_RESULTS_P1 check :)
21:46.50Pazza_that fixes the error ppping up
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21:46.57Pazza_but doesn't fix what it is supposed to do
21:46.59Pazza_http://pazza.pastey.net/87751
21:47.22Snagockknight: About http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11059.msg215412#msg215412 . What was the reason for requiering LHC-3.0 to have that specific directory structure? I see only cons...
21:48.20ckknightI forget now. There really should be a standard, though. Having internal directories by libs breaks with hg or git, which will come into vogue very soon now.
21:48.23ArrowmasterClassPazza_: proper fixes only pls, no hacky patches should get commited just to remove an error and break the code
21:48.29ckknightand by soon, I mean like, next week.
21:49.02Pazza_Arrowmas1er: it doesn't break anything. removing WHO_NUM_RESULTS_P1 does. It's not a hack.
21:50.14Snagohg or git can't include a dir inside a dir?
21:50.29MaldiviaPazza: why go to that length?
21:50.51ckknightSnago: it can, but you can only check out projects, not their subdirs
21:51.00ckknightneither supports partial checkouts
21:51.05MaldiviaPazza: the string you get from the event contains the |4xxx:yyy; aswell
21:51.20MaldiviaPazza: which the global also contains, so that will simply compare to eachother
21:51.21JakeMsweet
21:51.26JakeMNow the only thing horking is Prat.
21:51.58ckknightSnago: I say next week since CurseForge releases on Monday, supports git and hg, and I predict quite a few people trying it out and moving projects and libs over, or at least starting new ones
21:52.14MaldiviaPazza: ie, if you do a /who Pazza, you'll get "1 |4player:players; total" as arg1
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21:52.20ArrowmasterClassckknight: if doing that then atleast stop fucking including 2 extra damn directorys with a single file in each and just put the files in the main dir
21:53.10Snagockknight: As long as you can include subdirs I don't see a problem. For disembedded you want the check out the whole dir.
21:53.12ckknightArrowmasterClass: that's how I structure my new libs, typically
21:53.38ckknightSnago: you can't check out the subdirs of a git and hg project without checking out the whole thing, that's the issue
21:54.14ZealotOnAStickIs there an easy to find concise listing of the 2.4.2 global changes somewhere?
21:56.23MaldiviaPazza_: so yes, simply removing the P1 check fixes both the popup error, and restores the correct functionaloty
21:57.00Pazza_Thanks for clearing that up. Hoping someone updates svn and commits
21:57.18ArrowmasterClassZealotOnAStick: http://wowcompares.com/0428278/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua?diff=2418124
21:58.21ArrowmasterClassoh and
21:58.23ArrowmasterClassWHO_NUM_RESULTS_P1 = "%d players total";
21:58.30ArrowmasterClassWHO_NUM_RESULTS = "%d |4player:players; total";
21:58.41ArrowmasterClassthey look like they should work the same
21:58.58Snagockknight: So in git/hg you can or can't include trunk/LibDir/LibSubDir/ ?
21:59.03MaldiviaPazza_: as for your approach, if your assumption was the case, then it would have been better to change Deformat, as every addon that used it would be updated then - but as shown, no update of Deformat is needed :)
21:59.41Marstiand what if %d = 1?
21:59.47ckknightSnago: for one, they don't have trunk, they have a default branch each. You can't check out their subfolders, you can only check out the whole project.
22:00.32ArrowmasterClasswhen you use :GetText() on where ever thats used what does it return?
22:00.41ZealotOnAStickahah.
22:00.46ZealotOnAStickPrat should be easy to fix then.
22:00.51Pazza_thanks for explaining Maldivia.
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22:01.16Snagockknight: but what about including? or is it the same? and what about including a lib from the WoWAce SVN?
22:02.03ckknightSnago: if you want to include an svn path, that's easy and can handle subdirs (with CurseForge's packager, that is)
22:02.03MaldiviaArrowmasterClass: GetText returns the formated, so SetText("1 |4test:tests") -> GetText() returns "1 test"
22:02.08MaldiviaArrowmasterClass: nevermind
22:02.34ckknightSnago: and CurseForge does support remote externals, e.g. from wowace
22:03.00MaldiviaArrowmasterClass: hmm, nope, looks like it's the formated text that's retured (thought I just screwed up by wrting out the return value)
22:03.20ArrowmasterClassthen there may be a problem
22:03.30MaldiviaArrowmasterClass: yep "1 test" is returned, and not the original string
22:03.39ArrowmasterClassmajor problem
22:03.57Snagockknight: Then there's no problem with libs having a subdir so you don't package one LibStub and CBH per lib? (FYI: PitBull comes with 10 LibStubs and 3 CBHs)
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22:04.48ckknightSnago: libs can have a subdir, but if you want to include said lib in your project, you'd get all the files and directories of said lib, including LibStub and CBH
22:05.30Snagockknight: I'm talking libs from an SVN.
22:05.31ArrowmasterClasswtf TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_RESULT_OVERHEALING = "Overhealed";
22:05.40GrumsargI'm having problems with Cartographer and modules seeking methods and libraries that don't exsist on my drive..
22:05.42CIA-4103zealotonastick * r73742 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Substitutions.lua: Prat: Update Substitutions.lua module for 2.4.2 global change
22:05.51Funkeh`ArrowmasterClass, welcome to weeks ago!
22:05.53Funkeh`;p
22:05.56ckknightSnago: libs from an svn work as they do on wowace, no difference, really
22:05.58ArrowmasterClassyeah yeah
22:06.06Funkeh`we think it's for fct
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22:06.07Funkeh`but no idea
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22:07.30Snagockknight: yes, but if a lib has a directory structure like the one I posted in the LHC-3.0 thread then the addons could include the inner dir and only get the lib file without LibStub/CBH that would be in the outer dir.
22:07.57GrumsargCan't find 'LibBabble-Faction-3.0' or 'Babble-Tradeskill-2.2'
22:08.19ckknightSnago: true.
22:09.53Snagockknight: but if I got it right that's impossible to do with a library in a git repo? You'd have to have different repos for embedded/disembedded?
22:10.11ckknightno one will do that.
22:10.17ckknightnor would I ever, ever recommend that.
22:10.32XuerianBeware... the stink eye
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22:10.58ckknightbut yes, it's impossible currently.
22:11.04Snagono, I agree, it would be a pain.
22:11.18ckknightI might try to mangle the packager to handle subdirs, but that'll be quite an effort
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22:11.32Funkeh`~framexml
22:11.32purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
22:11.55ArrowmasterClassif the project was in git and all the libraries were in git i would just use git submodules personally
22:12.30ckknightArrowmasterClass: be realistic about it, though. There's going to be svn libraries and git libraries and hg projects that want to use both
22:12.37ckknightor one or the other
22:12.42ckknightit'll be hard to stick just in svn
22:12.43ArrowmasterClassyup
22:12.59ckknightI'm gonna see if I can get the packager to handle subdirs, but it will definitely be hard
22:13.07Xinhuanthen force libstub to be a lib
22:13.07ArrowmasterClasslot of people are moving away from svn due to it sucking so much
22:13.09Xinhuana real lib
22:13.17ckknightXinhuan: I wish it were
22:13.18ArrowmasterClassnever
22:13.18Xinhuanthat gets packaged normally
22:13.20Xueriansonofoabitch >_o
22:13.30Xinhuanmake libstub NOT be embedded forcefully like it currently is
22:13.31XuerianAnyone know where tortisesvn saves passwords?
22:13.35SnagoThis whole thing is because of the "special" case for LibStub and CBH... If they'd just stop being so special and get treated like any other lib it would get rid of a lot of problems
22:13.37Xinhuanand you wont' have 10 copies of libstub in pitbull
22:13.39ckknightArrowmasterClass: it's why CurseForge is supporting both git and hg
22:14.15ckknightbecause people want it
22:14.27ckknightwell, mostly me, but that's not the point.
22:14.36ckknightI'm a people too
22:14.37ckknightsniffs
22:15.22Xinhuanits pretty easy, just change all your own addons and libraries to include Libstub in X-Embeds, make a libstub repo, and remove libstub from being included hardcopy
22:15.54ArrowmasterClassX-Embeds needs to die
22:15.59nevcairielsrsly
22:16.07ZealotOnAStickNow, I wish I knew what to muck with in AuditorFu to fix it.
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22:16.16Snagoyeah, forcing inclusion of a hardcopy of LibStub/CBH cause more problems than it solves imho
22:16.16Xinhuanuntil you come up with a better alternative to x=embeds, its easy to say that
22:16.32Xinhuanall talk, no action
22:16.36nevcairielall that "i want to save 1s off my login time, bad libstub"
22:16.41nevcairieldiaf :P
22:16.42ArrowmasterClassXinhuan: since X-Embeds is a wowace svn only thing, svn properties
22:17.18nevcairielSnago: how does it cause _any_ problems?
22:17.30Xinhuannot really arrow, there are things i want to include in my addons via externals, but NOT via x-embeds
22:17.46ArrowmasterClassXinhuan: i didnt say svn:externals
22:17.46Snagonevcairiel: it gives me headache for one...
22:17.48CIA-4103xuerian * r73744 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Update to new coin strings
22:17.49Xuerianha-HA
22:18.04nevcairielSnago: we cant fix your personal disadvantages, sorry, real problems?
22:18.07ArrowmasterClassXinhuan: i said svn properties, you can create a property of any name you want
22:18.12Xinhuanok that's acceptable solution, but nobody has implemented it
22:18.14FtH|Daemonapossibly a stupid question, but why cant libstub be handled like any other lib?
22:18.33nevcairielthe whole idea of libraries is broken around here :P
22:18.49CIA-4103xuerian * r73745 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: Loot-1.0: Updated currency strings
22:19.05Xinhuanits not really a stupid suggestion FtH|Daemona
22:19.14Xinhuanbecause the suggestion comes up again and again
22:19.36Xinhuannow if a suggestion comes up again and again, it proves its not really stupid
22:19.48FtH|Daemonaguess i am just too much a gamer and too little into software engineering at the moment to join in on that discussion... i just hang out here for stupid comments, reporting bugs and shouting at Funkeh` and Antiarc ;)
22:19.54Xinhuanthe authors just don't want it that way, pretty simple
22:20.01Xinhuanthere's no real reason for it
22:20.03CIA-4103piranther * r73746 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- The automatic cleanup that happens at load time is now optional (default: off)
22:20.15nevcairieldont use it if you dont want it /me rolls eyes
22:20.36SnagoPitBull comes with 10 LibStubs and 3 CBHs, I think that's a problem. It wouldn't be a problem if LS/CBH wasn't "special"
22:20.44Xinhuani'm merely answering a question nevcairiel
22:20.48CIA-4103funkydude * r73747 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: Tweak void timer
22:20.51nevcairielSnago: proof that its a problem
22:20.56stavmar_ok Skillet pauses my game for like 40 seconds after I open the frame, is anyone else having this issue
22:21.00Funkeh`Snago, no, the problem is how pitbul is setup then
22:21.24Killmoreanyone here having a couple error about libparser-4.0 and parrot stuff ?!
22:21.30Funkeh`there should only ever be 1 cbh and 1 LS per embeded addon
22:21.41Funkeh`loading, anyway
22:22.00Xinhuanyeah, so 50 addons that use it, 50 copies loaded
22:22.02SnagoNo, it's svn:externals are correct, but since every lib has a hardcopy of LS PitBull get one copy per lib
22:22.16Funkeh`thats a lib design thing
22:22.20Xinhuanthe idea that "the library is so small, it should just be embedded hardcopy" is dumb
22:22.22Funkeh`they should be using subdirs properly
22:22.28Soratashouldn't there be a sub directory then?
22:22.32Funkeh`indeed
22:22.53Funkeh`but it isn't really that big a problem considering the file size and the fact it isn't loaded
22:22.58Snagoyes, only one loaded, and yes there should be a subdir. But it wouldn't have to be if LibStub was just a lib like any other
22:23.05nevcairielXinhuan: we never told addons to hard-copy it in, only libraries, so that point is fail, every library ends up that way
22:23.22Xinhuanit means the documentation wasn't enough or sufficient
22:23.24Funkeh`Snago, we don't want libs to have dependancies accept that
22:23.36Xinhuanthe documentation should have been inside libstub.lua itself
22:23.36nevcairielall you get is a bunch of 2kb files that are not even touched by the game
22:23.37Funkeh`the ONLY reason they are external copies is because it looks ugly in a DO end
22:23.50Funkeh`otherwise they would be physically inside the lib
22:24.04Xinhuanhow they should get embedded isn't really documented anywhere
22:24.07Xinhuanthat is another problem
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22:24.12nevcairielsure it is
22:24.19nevcairiellooked at the libstub wowwiki article?
22:24.36Xinhuanbut there isn't one for callbackhandler, at least last i checked
22:25.04nevcairielso, you fail to proof your point, and jump to something else?
22:25.08nevcairielgood arguments there :P
22:25.19XuerianAckis: Lol@AltTabber's design reason
22:25.27Xinhuani proofed my point, there is insufficient documentation :)
22:25.32nevcairielhttp://www.wowwiki.com/LibStub
22:25.37nevcairieltells you all you need to know
22:25.37Xinhuanso authors follow with the "general rule of how libs work"
22:26.19nevcairielMost of the authors have no clue how that works anyway
22:26.24nevcairielbecause they dont care
22:26.30nevcairielthey are happy if it works for them
22:26.35SnagoIf LibStub was included with svn:externals they wouldn't have dependencies (except for ppl that pull with noext but they bring it on themselves)
22:27.00nevcairielSnago: all you get is a bunch of text files that WoW does not even load, suck it up!
22:28.33ckknightnevcairiel: but have you seen how much hard disk space is nowadays?
22:28.33Funkeh`Snago, don't get us wrong, the design behind some libs lacks sub dirs
22:28.33Funkeh`but we're not about to break everything to change that
22:28.34Xinhuani told you snago, the authors want it that way, for no real particular reason, the method resulting from it is to use subdirs in evn:externals
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22:28.34Xinhuanand not every lib uses subdirs
22:28.36Funkeh`it's too late to change them now
22:28.38Funkeh`just learn
22:28.46Funkeh`use subdirs in libs
22:28.52ckknightFunkeh`: new libraries could have a standard
22:28.54SnagoOk, but what's the pros of having LS and CBH "special"?
22:28.57Shirikckknight: Costs you about $1000 for 50GB these days
22:28.59Funkeh`ckknight, aye
22:29.00Shirikit's insane
22:29.05Funkeh`that's what Im saying :P
22:29.13ckknightShirik: GB?
22:29.13Snagoand yes, I say "special" like if I meant "retarded" :P
22:29.19Shirikyup
22:29.45ckknightFunkeh`: using subdirs in libs doesn't work for non-svn (e.g. git, hg), which is what half the discussion is about
22:29.57Ackislol Zuerian
22:29.57BrunersShirik: 50GB what?
22:29.58ckknightFunkeh`: that is, subdirs which are meant to be used as the external
22:30.02kergothplays around with hacking vertical bars into libbars
22:30.02Ackiserr Xuerian
22:30.06Shirikhard drive
22:30.31Funkeh`ckknight, you can't point externals to subdirs in git?
22:30.41BrunersShirik: more like $100 for a 500GB one
22:30.42ArrowmasterClassgit doesnt work like svn
22:30.47nevcairielSnago: libraries should not have other dependancys, the intial idea was to copy/paste LibStub in the library file, because its fucking 40 lines :P
22:30.49ckknightFunkeh`: sadly, no, you can't do partial cloning, only full clones
22:30.55Shiriknah, 50GB HDD, about $1000
22:30.55ArrowmasterClassfiles dont mean anything to it, only data
22:31.00Shirikhttp://store0.alrightdeals.com/CommonItem.htm?Product=S0_Flash.Products_SSD.Flash.Drives___FTD60GK25H
22:31.02kergothyou can do partial cloning, but partial only wrt history, not path
22:31.03ckknightFunkeh`: I'm gonna see if I can fake it, though, but still :-(
22:31.04kergothwhich is a good thing, imo
22:31.15Funkeh`well as a shame as that is, just going to need to live with extra unloaded files in addons
22:31.35ckknightkergoth: I agree
22:31.44nevcairielFunkeh`: yeah like it matters soo much
22:31.47BrunersShirik: thats not a normal hard drive :P
22:31.52Shirikit's a hard drive!
22:31.54ckknightkergoth: you played with curseforge at all yet?
22:31.55kergothotherwise your repo would be missing stuff, the commits would have incorrect sha1s.. just a mess
22:31.58kergothnot yet
22:32.27ckknightkergoth: okay then, we're "releasing" on Monday
22:32.45ckknightby release, I mean make it use the live database, but it'll still have the nice "beta" logo
22:32.49ckknighthooray for perpetual betas
22:32.59ArrowmasterClasslike wowarmory?
22:33.22ckknightArrowmasterClass: :-P hehe
22:33.34BrunersShirik: if you got with a normal 3.5" you can get 1TB for $300ish :P
22:33.40Shirikwell sure
22:33.46Shirikbut when did I say "normal"
22:40.43Xinhuanwhat's that new healing epic gem called
22:40.49Xinhuanthe patch notes didn't mention it
22:40.55Xinhuanat all
22:41.00CIA-4103satrina * r73749 10SBFOptions/SatrinaBuffFrameOptions.lua:
22:41.00CIA-41SBFOptions:
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22:45.20stew_aIs there a way for the UI to get the player's AFK message?
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22:46.12Funkeh`yes
22:46.32Xinhuanonly by whispering him i think
22:46.52Funkeh`register chat msg system, :find 'You are now afk: ' and strip it away
22:47.25stew_athanks
22:47.43Funkeh`there's probably a global string you can use for that
22:47.48Funkeh`to avoid localization, not sure
22:47.59hypetechAnybody know what's up with Parrot ?
22:48.09Funkeh`too many crackers?
22:48.21hypetechhaha
22:48.24hypetechsigh
22:48.31ZealotOnAStickThere's fix on the forum thread for it.
22:48.35hypetechsad part is I actually laughed out loud at that :(
22:48.38ZealotOnAStickglobals change.
22:48.46hypetechand there's just no way to explain it to the people around me
22:49.55ckknightso, anyone in America, willing to move, and looking for a job?
22:50.00ckknightthere's cake involved.
22:50.11stew_a[Delicious Chocolate Cake]?
22:50.13JadrieI don't suppose someone would put <wowaddon:provides>  into the xml for Ace3?  Wow UI Updater uses the list for dependency checking
22:50.22steevckknight: where ?
22:50.52ckknightsteev: Huntsville, AL (It's where NASA is). Working for Curse
22:51.14steevthats not too far from here - it would be a move
22:51.38ckknightwhere are you?
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22:52.03steevtulsa
22:52.21ckknightalright
22:52.33ckknightin any event, I think we're looking for QA people and .NET devs
22:52.50kergothAntiarc: ping
22:53.00steevif you want to email me details - steev@gentoo.org
22:53.39Xuerianckknight: When did YOU get sucked into Curse's engines?
22:54.34NeoTronso.. wasn't Curse a guild initially/
22:54.41NeoTronhow did a guild become a commercial entity?
22:54.44ckknightNeoTron: yes.
22:54.51ckknightXuerian: Early February
22:55.44Xuerianknew he'd eventually regret not putting enough time into programming to get a viable job...
22:56.04XuerianOh well, Hakuna matata XD
22:56.05ckknightNeoTron: basically, when Curse started hosting addons, they got tons of traffic, then after time they couldn't support the bandwidth and put up ads, as time progressed, it just kinda got to the point where it is now
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22:56.19ckknightXuerian: um, we're still hiring QA people ;-)
22:56.57Xuerianckknight: Got a box I can live in?
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22:57.06ckknightI have a couch.
22:57.18XuerianHey, wouldn't even be a change. Sign me up o_0
22:58.04ZealotOnAStickckknight: there a link/application site/etc?
22:58.10ZealotOnAStickdev, no.  QA, I can do.
22:58.34ckknightnot really, I just randomly spam that we're looking for QA people and .NET devs every now and again
22:59.15ckknightthe requirements are as such: Must live in America or able to move to America without issue (i.e. have your visas sorted out). Be able to move to Huntsville, AL (note: not a hick town).
22:59.18ckknightthat's roughly all.
22:59.20Gngskkinda like wow guild recruitment
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22:59.31ZealotOnAStickI'm potentially interested.
22:59.40ckknightI'm also supposed to say "must have attention to detail", but that can be learned, if you ask me.
23:00.08ZealotOnAStickWho do I talk to/send resume to/etc?
23:00.19Gngskalabama
23:00.31ckknightZealotOnAStick: I'll get you the details
23:01.17DashkalYou need a canadian office :p
23:01.22ckknightdown with Canada!
23:01.26ckknightI was Canadian once
23:01.26Dashkallol
23:01.29ckknightthen I learned the error of my ways.
23:01.30Dashkaltrator!
23:01.38ckknightI'm a full red-blooded American now
23:01.53XuerianWe're not red-blooded.
23:01.55XuerianWe're rednecked.
23:02.02DashkalCanadian and staying that way :p
23:02.04XuerianDon't worry, common misconception...
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23:02.56CIA-4103dodge 072.1 * r73752 10CoolDownButtons/ (8 files in 5 dirs): CoolDownButtons: added option to hide cooldowns with cooldown > x seconds
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23:03.13ckknightDashkal: I still have my Canadian citizenship, actually
23:03.14ckknight:-P
23:03.26Dashkallol
23:03.50DashkalActually, my aversion to the states is political, and that can change so quickly who knows what I'll be saying a couple years from now *shrugs*
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23:04.23Paene~seen Vulcanus
23:04.25purlvulcanus <n=Vulcanus@212251189074.customer.cdi.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 42m 56s ago, saying: 'EU realms (no 2.4.2)'.
23:04.28DashkalThough I'll probably never give up my ocean :p  So open an office in a smaller city in Cali :p
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23:05.21ckknightDashkal: but we have rockets!
23:05.27ckknightand weapons facilities!
23:05.30ckknightwhat's not to like?
23:05.35Dashkalshudders
23:05.57DashkalRockets are cool.  For the second, see my complaint :p
23:06.01ckknightwoo, America!
23:06.27ckknightbang bang, brown peoples, you're either dead or subservient to us for 20 years until we war with you again!
23:06.42DashkalSo, when are you going to naturalize? :p
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23:06.59ckknightI'm already a naturalized American
23:07.14Dashkalerm, isn't that suppoed to force you to give up your canadian citizenship?
23:07.15ckknightit's just that Canada still recognizes me as a citizen, I have a passport and everything
23:07.24ckknightDashkal: only from America's perspective
23:07.29DashkalI thought Canada cut you off when you did that
23:07.33ckknightsame deal with New Zealand actually, I have citizenship there, too
23:07.38ckknightDashkal: nope.
23:07.45Dashkalhmm, learn something new every day...
23:07.55ckknightthough extradition might be tricky, but that depends on the case
23:08.02cog|worksighs at being pinged by "recognizes"
23:08.18ckknightbut if I wanted to say, go on an extended business trip in Canada, there really wouldn't be any issue
23:08.36Killmoreckknight: my parrot is broken :(
23:08.38KarlThePaganand if WW3 happens you have a quicker exit strategy than me
23:08.47GngskKillmore, feed it crackers imo
23:09.03ckknightKarlThePagan: my preferred place to go in that case would be New Zealand, likely
23:09.18ckknightKarlThePagan: but that's if there's legitimate danger to my person
23:09.18KarlThePagangood call
23:09.19ajmitchckknight: a wise choice
23:09.28KarlThePaganthey're far enough from australia that you won't get so much fallout
23:09.30Brunersare US servers up now?
23:09.37KarlThePaganit's that or prince edward island
23:09.41ckknightif we're merely nuking Iran instead of the other way around, it might be alright
23:09.43ZhinjioBruners: yes
23:09.45ajmitchckknight: originally from NZ?
23:09.56BrunersZhinjio: what are the changes on scare beast ?
23:10.01ckknightajmitch: father is, so I filled out a form and paid $50 to become a citizen
23:10.08ajmitchheh, useful
23:10.08KarlThePaganscore
23:10.24KarlThePaganyou can do that in Japan too eh? easy way to become employable
23:10.32ZhinjioBruners: # Scare Beast: The range on this spell has been increased to 30 yards.
23:10.34ajmitchwhich means you could also live & work freely in australia
23:11.00KarlThePaganbut in the WW3 scenario australia is likely to be just as fucked as canada ;)
23:11.33Zhinjioreality check: in any WW3 scenario, the whole world is pretty fucked.
23:11.49DashkalI am so fucked in case of WW3.  I'm a canadian living in Vancouver.  It's _the_ asian gateway for Canada.
23:12.03DashkalNuke Magnet
23:14.37KarlThePaganDashkal, bio-warfare magnet
23:14.47profalbertKillmore: 2.4.2 broke parrot. Obelix postet a fix in the forum
23:14.50profalbertKillmore: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12512.msg215424#msg215424
23:14.55Dashkalor whatever the current flavour of WMD is at the time *shrugs*
23:14.56DashkalDead is Dead
23:14.58ckknightsomeone fix it
23:15.19profalbertKillmore: I'll put it in the svn, as soon as I can test it myself
23:16.12Killmoreok
23:16.41profalbertKillmore: patch comes tomorrow (well ok today) on EU-realms
23:17.03stew_aIs bartender 4 released yet?
23:17.15profalbertstew_a: it's in trunk
23:17.30stew_acool, ty
23:19.05GrumsargI'm having a problem with a few things unable to call a method or find certain libraries. Not sure what to download to fix these.
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23:22.16kergothanyone else around that uses libbars?
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23:23.16CivrockDid anybody fix WhoLib yet?
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23:24.59Ganderslua> local t = {alpha = "bravo", hello = "world"}; local k = t; return k.alpha
23:25.00lua_botGanders: bravo
23:25.36BrunersZhinjio: do you still need runed etherium rod to do void shatter?
23:25.38Ganderslua> local t = {alpha = "bravo"}; local k = t; k.alpha = "gamma"; return k.alpha
23:25.39lua_botGanders: gamma
23:26.11ZhinjioBruners: not sure. don't have a 'chanter. I suspect so, though, since they made it a 375 recipe
23:26.13CIA-4103danielbarron * r73753 10RaidBuffStatus/ (8 files):
23:26.13CIA-41RaidBuffStatus:
23:26.13CIA-41- Fixed some translation and zone issues with the flask zone checker.
23:26.13CIA-41- Added some Spanish translations.
23:26.13Shirikhow did you go alpha, bravo, gamma?
23:26.17Shirikpick one alphabet
23:26.21Gandersheh
23:26.25Shirikalpha, bravo, charlie or alpha, beta, gamma
23:26.26Gandersi'm just using random stuff
23:26.49Dashkalalpha omega niner?
23:27.56Gandersi was getting a weird error, i was using a local to reference another table, then when I tried to change one of the table's values through the local, I got an error saying I couldn't index the upvalue, saying it was nil
23:28.07Ganderseven though i know it's not nil
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23:32.35OrionshockLibParser-4.0-59965 (LibParser-4.0):1217: attempt to concatenate field 'GOLD' (a nil value).
23:32.42Orionshockguess parrot is broke for a time :\
23:32.44reviverAntiarc, you there?
23:33.20profalbertOrionshock: at least until tomorrow
23:33.25Orionshocklol
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23:37.06Orionshockok, so how do i get item info if it's not being worn or in bags?
23:37.25JoshBorkeOrionshock: create a tooltip, SetTooltipItem(<link>)
23:37.33Orionshockdid that
23:37.37Orionshockhum..
23:37.39kergothdepends on what info you want, and wehther or not its cached
23:37.41Orionshockwait not reading wiki right
23:38.56Orionshockok so that dosn't work... -.-
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23:42.30Orionshockanyway to get the produced item from the enchant link?
23:42.45Orionshockother than the name?
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23:43.48Dashkalproduced item for an enchant?
23:44.04Orionshockenchant links are used with all tradeskills
23:44.16Orionshockie: " [Leatherworking: Nethercleft Leg Armor] "
23:44.56Dashkalahh.  no.  The link itself only has the crafting id
23:45.04Orionshockindeed
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23:46.45CIA-4103orionshock * r73754 10GuildCraft/core.lua: GuildCraft: fix syntax error in the core.
23:47.36breser_Hmm, Pitbull no longer has access to the Minimal Texture.
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23:56.25Orionshockhehe... well anyone else think that this looks hackish?
23:56.27Orionshock(LibStub("LibGratuity-3.0"):GetText(4,4))[1][1]:match("Requires Level (%d+)")
23:56.35NeoTronI really wish I could spec into nether protection
23:57.12XelopherisAnyone recommend an addon to supress LUA errors?
23:57.13krkaXelopheris: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon.
23:57.27Xelopheriswhatever
23:58.00kergothwhy would you need an addon, when theres a built in interface option to hide them?
23:58.08kergothor perhaps you mean record them somewhere, not supress them?
23:58.41Orionshock(LibStub("LibGratuity-3.0"):GetText(4,4))[1][1]:match("Requires Level (%d+)")
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23:59.33kergothwe saw that the first time, Orionshock.  repeating yourself isn't going to change anything
23:59.41LywellynAnyone here maintaining Wishlist?
23:59.43Orionshocksorry
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23:59.48Orionshockthought wow had focus

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