IRC log for #wowace on 20080512

00:00.07vithoskeeps going towards the top right of my screen
00:00.15CIA-4103jjsheets * r73516 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua:
00:00.15CIA-41ButtonFacade:
00:00.15CIA-41<PROTECTED>
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00:00.52[SW]Dodgevithos: o.O
00:00.57[SW]Dodgei tested it..
00:01.02vithoswhat scale do you use?
00:01.05[SW]Dodgefor me it works fine
00:01.08vithosseems to work fine at scale=1
00:01.14vithosi'm using 0.6
00:01.16[SW]Dodgearg damn >.<
00:01.33[SW]Dodgeic <.<
00:01.36vithoschanging the scale works good now though, the buttons stay in the same spot
00:02.01[SW]Dodgei hate the scaling option...
00:02.06vithoshehe
00:02.14[SW]Dodgeit was a pain in v1... but in v2 it is the HELL
00:02.59vithoslooks so much better scaled down though imo
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00:03.30vithosbut i also hate the blizzard default buff frames
00:03.33DARKGuyYay, my inter-guild chat communication addon is working awesome :)
00:03.34DARKGuyme too.
00:04.43[SW]Dodge^^
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00:05.20JJSheetsDARKGuy, what interguild addon is that?
00:06.01DARKGuyJJSheets, I call it "InterGuild". It allows you to chat with the other guild(s) guildchat when you're in a raid/group together
00:06.12CIA-4103tsigo 07Ace3 * r73517 10Cutup/modules/Julienne.lua: Cutup/Julienne: Unregister the correct event.
00:07.51DARKGuyI have yet to upload it to SVN, but it's not perfect yet... it needs to check for when the server says you're spamming and blocks you for a few seconds, and have a method to check if both guilds agree to share their guild chat
00:07.54DARKGuyand other features
00:07.58JJSheetsAh.  Guild2guild has an exploit last I heard where a person could listen in on guild chat in certain circumstances.  :)
00:09.00vhaarrI don't think it was certain circumstances, I think everyone could by just joining the guild2guild global channel
00:09.19vhaarrJJSheets: did I hear you had some small compress/uncompress functions for Lua?
00:09.44DARKGuylol, thats kinda lame :(
00:09.50JJSheetsvhaarr, yes.  it's basically LZW.
00:09.58JJSheetswant me to upload it?
00:10.01vhaarryeah
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00:11.26CIA-4103jjsheets * r73518 10LibCompress/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
00:11.26CIA-41LibCompress: LZW based compression library.
00:11.26CIA-41<PROTECTED>
00:11.38DARKGuythat's sweet
00:11.38DARKGuy:O
00:12.02vithoshax
00:12.18DARKGuyInterGuild is very similar to Guild2Guild yeah, but chat is sent through AceComm, it needs to be encrypted just in case, and add a few checks to know which guild should receive the messages and such. it's pretty barebones now :P
00:12.34JJSheetsMind you, I haven't tested it in WoW, but the code/algorithm does work.  (tested in a basic lua environment.)
00:12.52CIA-4103kurax * r73519 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (4 files):
00:12.52CIA-41AtlasLoot_WorldLoot:
00:12.52CIA-41- Minor bugfix
00:13.24JJSheetsI may be convinced sometime in the future to work on in-game encryption...
00:14.17JJSheetsbut I'm no cryptologist, so no guarantees.  tho the TEA algorithm looks nice, it's not public/private key based... :/
00:15.05CIA-4103dodge * r73520 10CoolDownButtons/Prototypes/Button_Managing.lua:
00:15.05CIA-41CoolDownButtons:
00:15.05CIA-41- hopefully fixed Anchor with scaling ~= 1
00:15.27[SW]Dodgevithos: now it should work ;D
00:15.57JJSheets[SW]Dodge, were you looking for me a few days back? maybe about ButtonFacade?
00:16.33[SW]Dodgeyes, i wanted to ask how to add support for BF to CDB but it is done now ^^
00:16.43JJSheetsah.  okay.  :)
00:17.14DARKGuyButtonFacade should have BT3 support imho :P!
00:17.28JJSheetsThen add it to BT3.  :p
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00:17.49[SW]DodgeDARKGuy: its not BF that had to support addons, the addons had to support BF ^^
00:18.11DARKGuyAw, crap :P
00:18.13[SW]Dodgeah btw... need to remove the cycircled plugin for CDB ;D
00:18.56[SW]Dodgev2 had creates the plugin on the fly if BF is not aviable =)
00:18.57DARKGuynooo XD
00:20.33CIA-4103dodge * r73521 10cyCircled/plugins/CoolDownButtons.lua:
00:20.33CIA-41cyCircled:
00:20.33CIA-41- removed CoolDownButtons plugin, the new CDB still supports cyCircled but dont need a plugin in cyC anymore :)
00:20.34[SW]Dodgedone =)
00:21.34CIA-4103dodge * r73522 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc:
00:21.34CIA-41cyCircled:
00:21.34CIA-41- forgot to remove CooldownButtons plugin from toc file^^
00:21.37[SW]Dodge*cough*
00:22.31Tenchworkshehe it's always the small things that get by unnoticed
00:23.09JJSheetsThat's something you never want to hear from your girlfriend.  :p
00:23.19Tenchworksoof
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00:32.56laggeris the libbars on branches suppose to work
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00:34.21Nandinilagger: as opposed to not supposed to work?
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00:34.26CIA-4103tsigo 07Ace3 * r73523 10Cutup/modules/ (Bleeder.lua Julienne.lua Spam.lua): Cutup: Disable a module's option tab when the module itself is disabled.
00:34.44laggeron the 2nd line
00:34.55laggerit doesnt even assign a number to minor
00:34.57laggerand fails to load
00:35.32Nandiniapparently it doesn't work; however, i wouldn't assume from that observation that it isn't /supposed/ to work
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00:39.43vhaarrJJSheets: nice
00:40.14JJSheetsThanks.  The code is mostly from wikipedia's LZW article, though I tried to optimize it as much as I could.
00:42.39ZhinjioJJSheets: nice work on BF.
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00:43.00Silverstormlagger: LibBars works fine for me
00:43.20JJSheetsZhinjio, Thanks  :)
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00:58.30hubar[TD]_test
01:01.56kadrahildoes bartender4 edge snap the bars together yet?
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01:05.39vithos[SW]Dodge: CDB shows 04:51:20 on an itemcooldown that's 11 hours 51 minutes (everlasting underspore frond)
01:06.22[SW]Dodge11 hours itemcooldown? :O
01:06.35vithosyep
01:06.41vithosit creates food for you
01:07.10[SW]Dodgeah.. i know the one you can get from sporeggar?
01:07.17vithosi think so
01:07.18OlisonYeah, that one
01:08.04[SW]Dodgei dont have it anymore <.<
01:09.31[SW]Dodgeso i cant test possible fixes
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01:13.39[SW]Dodgevithos: but i'll look if i can fix it somehow.
01:15.27vithosi'm not sure i'll be able to test any fixes you might produce tonight either
01:15.34vithosraid's starting now and i'm already about to pass out
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01:18.57[SW]Dodgeno problem, i think i can call the function direct to modfy it ^^
01:19.03hubar[TD]_Has anyone got the latest Assessment to work?
01:20.40[SW]Dodgehubar[TD]_: as far as i know assessment is not updated for 2.4
01:21.12hubar[TD]_hmm, so the only DM now is Recount?
01:21.51Silverstormmy understanding is that the Damage view on Assessment was updated, the rest has not been
01:22.05[SW]Dodgei dont know if there is another one that recout so i would say yes
01:22.25[SW]Dodgevithos: got 10 seconds? :)
01:22.33hydrogenswstats still works
01:22.34hubar[TD]_My recount works so far. :)
01:22.41DarkElfwell grimreaper can show damage but may not be what ya need
01:22.46vithos[SW]Dodge: yeah
01:23.05[SW]Dodgevithos: run /dump GetItemCooldown(28111)
01:23.21[SW]Dodgeand then tell me the numbers =)
01:23.59vithos[1]=35741.405, [2]=43200, [3]=1
01:24.13hubar[TD]_Is there standalone of grim reaper?
01:24.34hubar[TD]_The one I got was always with xperl
01:24.46DarkElfon files.wowace.com
01:24.51[SW]Dodgethank you
01:27.17CIA-4103Sorata * r73524 10LibStickyFrames-2.0/LibStickyFrames-2.0/LibStickyFrames-2.0.lua:
01:27.17CIA-41LibStickyFrames-2.0:
01:27.17CIA-41- Make just about everything local and reduce table lookups
01:27.17CIA-41- Update all the documentation
01:27.33[SW]Dodgevithos: weird!
01:29.31[SW]Dodgewell, it would be nice to see what is shown after a reboot since GetTime() is the system uptime >.<
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01:34.30vithosmy power went out today
01:34.50vithosi dont' remember how many hours ago though
01:36.16CIA-4103dodge * r73525 10CoolDownButtons/Prototypes/Bar_Managing.lua:
01:36.16CIA-41CoolDownButtons:
01:36.16CIA-41- fixed anchor position
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01:37.25[SW]Dodgehm, i tested the calculation/text creation with cooldowns >1hr and it works fine here >.<
01:37.39[SW]Dodgebut i'll look if my wl can get the quest for that item
01:37.40[SW]Dodge:)
01:37.53[SW]Dodgeto do a real test
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01:50.48[SW]Dodgeg'night all
01:51.39Luckybobg'night
01:53.14CIA-4103ackis * r73526 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
01:53.14CIA-41AckisRecipeList:
01:53.14CIA-41- Fix null error with beast training
01:53.14CIA-41- Update LW recipes
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02:06.43Ackisis it bad practice to add some debug type code like if server == foo and player == bar then do debugstuff?
02:07.32hydrogenIts probably not the greatest idea
02:07.39hydrogenjust have a debug toggle :)
02:08.02dylanmNot sure why you'd push it out.
02:08.19Ackislazy to uncomment it all the time :P
02:08.29Ackiswas looking for a quick fix
02:10.22JJSheetsYou could always put a check for those things and create your debug function if they're correct, or if not, make the debug function an empty function.
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02:11.55dylanmI mean, I guess it doesn't matter.
02:12.28CIA-4103ackis * r73527 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua:
02:12.28CIA-41AckisRecipeList:
02:12.28CIA-41- Lets play nice with Fizwidget Hunter's Helper although the functionality of the two are redundant for huntards.
02:12.51Apocowhat was that autobar replacement thingy
02:13.03Apocothat requires lua file config?
02:13.32JJSheetsPT3Bar?
02:13.34dylanmOne thing I've seen Tekkub do is make a little addon for personal use that defines a global debug flag/output mechanism. If your addon sees this debug addon it goes into debug mode and spits out messages.
02:13.56CIA-4103toadkiller * r73528 10AutoBar/libs/:
02:13.56CIA-41AutoBar :
02:13.56CIA-41-- Start switching to LibStickyFrames-2.0
02:15.15hydrogenpeople who write programs in python deserve to be shot
02:15.26dylanmWhat's wrong with Python?
02:15.48hydrogen\tself.blah
02:15.49hydrogen\t\tself.blah
02:16.01hydrogen\WHITESPACEself
02:17.29Ackishow does one parse a string of %s receives loot: %s. to get both %s'?
02:17.47Ackiswhat I'm doing is failing miserably
02:18.10dylanmWhat do you have
02:18.36Ackisself:Print(LootMessage:match(LOOT_ITEM:gsub("%s", "(%s+)")))
02:19.11dylanmPatterns and format strings are different.
02:19.38CIA-4103ananhaid * r73529 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhCN.lua:
02:19.38CIA-41Recount:
02:19.38CIA-41- zhCN update.
02:20.42dylanmhttp://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_Pattern_Matching
02:21.21CIA-4103ananhaid * r73530 10Violation/locales/ (zhCN.lua zhTW.lua):
02:21.21CIA-41Violation:
02:21.21CIA-41- zhCN/zhTW update.
02:21.40CIA-4103ananhaid * r73531 10Parrot/Locales/ (ParrotLocale-zhCN.lua ParrotLocale-zhTW.lua):
02:21.40CIA-41Parrot:
02:21.41CIA-41- zhCN/zhTW update.
02:21.42dylanmI think there's a form for getting multiples of an item that you'll have to deal with as well.
02:22.03Ackisreading that now dylanm ty
02:22.33dylanmTrying to write the right pattern for it but doing the item link and making sure it localizes well...
02:22.58dylanmSometimes you can't be sure of the order, either. That's the worst part.
02:23.38AckisI don't need it to localize
02:23.43Ackisit would only be used on enUS
02:24.03AckisI'm going to want to eventually pull out all the info I can from the item link however
02:29.31Ackislua> string.gsub("You have received loot: [Loot]", ". have received loot: .", "")
02:29.32lua_botAckis: YoLoot], 1
02:29.57Ackislua> string.gsub("You have received loot: [Loot]", " . have received loot:.", "")
02:29.57lua_botAckis: You have received loot: [Loot], 0
02:31.45Ackislua> string.gsub("You have received loot: [Loot]", "You have received loot: .", " ")
02:31.46lua_botAckis:  Loot], 1
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02:32.02Ackiswhy is it cutting off the first [?
02:32.31dylanmAckis: Maybe uh... LOOT_ITEM:format("(%a+)", "|c%x%x%x%x%x%x|Hitem:("%d+):(.-)|h|r")
02:32.59Cryectbecause the . is replacing the [
02:33.13Cryect"You have received loot: ." matched "You have received loot: [Loot]"
02:33.21CryectI mean matched "You have received loot: ["
02:34.25dylanmEr, there should be more %xes.
02:34.29dylanmBut you get what I mean.
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02:38.14Silverstormthey should just add a loot event with player name, item ID, and quantity or something like that
02:38.46Ackis^
02:39.20Ackislua> string.gsub("You have received loot: [Loot]", "You have received loot:.", " ")
02:39.21lua_botAckis:  [Loot], 1
02:39.37Ackislua> string.gsub("You have received loot: [Loot]", "You have received loot:.", "")
02:39.38lua_botAckis: [Loot], 1
02:41.17AckisDylanm, can't seem to get yours to work, nor mine (in game)
02:42.22dylanmYou have to change it a little.
02:42.26dylanmCome on.
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02:42.48AckisI did change it a litt,e and I figured out what I was doing wrong w/ mine
02:43.23dylanmI'm sure some of the raid trackers are doing it already. Hmm.
02:43.34dylanmCan't actually test things out right now I'm afraid.
02:43.49AckisI looked at NRT and  it uses the deformat library... I could do the same but I want to understand the concept first
02:43.51Obelixprimeanyone good with rbuff?
02:44.03dylanmOh it does? Hmm.
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02:45.06dylanmhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua
02:45.11dylanmTake a loot here. It's a little roundabout.
02:45.27Obelixprimei'm trying to figure out where within the lua file I can't figure out how to increase the spacing between buffs
02:46.08dylanmObelixprime: Link it.
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02:47.18Obelixprime1 sec
02:47.27dylanmNevermind. Found it.
02:47.42CIA-4103scorpion * r73532 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
02:47.42CIA-41Cryolysis2:
02:47.42CIA-41- Updated zhTW localization
02:47.42CIA-41- Updated zhCN localization
02:47.57Obelixprimepastey down?
02:48.02Obelixprimecan't connect to ace.pastey.net
02:48.03dylanmYeah.
02:48.18dylanmI don't think rBuff changes positions does it?
02:49.34Obelixprimewell, for some reason the font on teh durations are really really close
02:49.46Obelixprimeso close that its hard to distinguish what the time remaining is
02:50.02dylanmClose to what?
02:50.09Obelixprimetoo close to each other
02:50.15Obelixprimebrb twins attempt
02:50.57CIA-4103wang * r73533 10DailyQuestViewer/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
02:50.57CIA-41DailyQuestViewer:
02:50.57CIA-41- add zhCN&zhTW local
02:51.04dylanmGood luck :p
02:51.19Obelixprimeback
02:51.23Obelixprimethe attempts are quick lol
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03:01.17dylanmAckis: Any luck/
03:03.20Ackisyes Dylanm, just got it working
03:03.31AckisI pretty much borrowed the code from MagicDKP
03:03.40Ackisand added NeoTron to x-credits ;)
03:04.10dylanmGood stuff.
03:04.28Ackisthanks for pointing it out to me btw
03:04.50dylanmI figured someone had done it in the past. Googled "LOOT_ITEM lua".
03:04.58Ackisahh
03:05.08AckisI'll have to add that to my repository of skillz
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03:09.49elite3vilYay for having hunters in the guild that're so retarded they can't hold back in Kz when they're in full t6 and the tank is in t5-ish stuff.
03:10.06elite3viland then they fd Prince onto a spriest and say the spriest pulled
03:10.33Silverstormthere's a reason they're called huntards
03:10.38elite3vilYep.
03:11.07elite3vil"Omen said I was at 95% of your threat... and then I got a fd resist and a few auto shots crit"
03:11.35Silverstormlol
03:11.44Silverstormthey shouldnt wait until 95% to FD in Kara...
03:12.01elite3vilWow.. really?
03:12.06Silverstormlol
03:16.01vithoslast time i did kara, i pulled aggro on prince too.
03:16.05vithosthreat was way off
03:16.41vithoswhat people don't understand i think, is that feign death isn't free
03:17.19Aens|Superiority...
03:17.25Aens|Superiorityyou are joking right?
03:17.29vithosyou don't use it just because the cooldown is up, because it's a) a gcd b) resets your autoshot timer
03:17.30kenlyricit's a lot cheaper than a wipe
03:17.55kenlyricyour dps is 0 when you're dead
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03:18.08ajmitchespecially when the tank is dead
03:18.12vithosi don't much care
03:19.19vithosi'd rather wipe when the threat meter is wrong than gimp my dps 100% of the time just in case
03:19.32Aens|Superiorityits nothing about gimping your dps
03:19.49Aens|Superiorityand blaming a threat meter is just an excuse
03:19.59Silverstormguess I shouldn't ever soulshatter then...it even costs me a shard!
03:20.13hydrogenYou'd rather waste ten peoples time than lose a few dps?
03:20.19vithosyou know how locks use mana pots instead of life tapping?
03:20.22hydrogenfucking scrub
03:20.34vithosconnect the dots.
03:20.57Aens|Superiorityvithos: locks use mana pots because they are being responsible
03:21.01hydrogenyes, unfortunatly theres no aggro dump pot
03:21.03Aens|Superiorityits nothing similar to gcd
03:21.17Aens|Superioritynot using FD is like locks not using pots
03:21.28Aens|Superiorityits the lazy way out, unskilled way out
03:21.30hydrogenIt's like tanks not using a shield
03:21.31hydrogen:>
03:21.37hydrogenYOU SHOULD HAVE HEALED ME MORE
03:22.15DashkalHippi?
03:22.39vithosi'm just saying, i don't play the game to do 95% of what i could do.  i play to do 100%
03:22.53vithosand yes, just like you all are, everyone i knows disagrees with me about it
03:23.02vithosand bitches just like that
03:23.32Silverstormwell...wiping because you pull aggro or cause enfeeble on the tank isn't 100%...it's 0% progress
03:23.32DashkalWhen the whole damn world is wrong...
03:24.02vithosmillions of backstreet boys fans.
03:24.30kenlyricthat you have aggro control is PART OF YOUR CLASS
03:24.38Aens|SuperiorityI played a hunter in raids.  Its not hard to do good dps AND not pull aggro.
03:24.53Aens|Superioritypulling aggro is the easiest thing to do as a hunter. All you gotta do is not care.
03:24.57vithosit's not hard.  when the meter isn't wrong.
03:25.07vithosand when feign death doesn't bug.
03:25.22Aens|Superioritycause the meters are obviously not designed for hunters right?
03:25.25Silverstormhmm...time to talk to Antiarc and Kenco...let's break the meters on purpose so people l2p again
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03:26.21dylanmvithos wants to put out all he has to give. He wants it that way.
03:26.23vithosyou're telling me the meter isn't wrong when i pull aggro at 95% from 35 yards?
03:26.25dylanmAnd that makes him larger than life.
03:27.05Aens|Superiorityvithos: I don't think the meter was wrong.  You got a screenshot showing the error?
03:27.08vithosand that i'm to blame, cause i should have been feigning death every time it's up and stopping dps after a resist if i'm at -35% of aggro pull?
03:27.24hydrogenrelying on a meter to play the game for you is fail
03:27.26hydrogensorry
03:27.33buuWow is hard.
03:27.37buuRaiding is really hard.
03:27.41vithosright, real pros don't use threat meters.
03:27.42hydrogentrue
03:27.46hydrogenpvp is harder
03:27.48vithosyeah.
03:27.49Silverstormstay outta the fire, collect epics =p
03:27.56hydrogenMy omen never works right in pvp
03:27.58hydrogen:(
03:28.08Aens|Superiorityvithos: pros don't need to.  Rhythm and patterning should suffice.
03:28.15Aens|Superioritymeters just help out
03:28.19hydrogenI'm always way below the tank in aggro and they still come after me
03:28.50buuhydrogen: I have that problem occasionally.
03:28.52buuHave you tried taunting?
03:28.54vithosfeign death every cooldown is 100 dps if you're doing 2k
03:29.13vithosbut yeah, i'm done with this conversation.
03:29.23SilverstormI would never say do it every cooldown, but don't wait 'til the last second
03:29.50hydrogenwonders how wild it'd be to write a combat log parser in ruby
03:30.05buuThe new combat log is too easy to parse.
03:30.16Silverstormdoesn't think it'd be hard at all
03:30.30hydrogenIt's down to ruby, c# or java for the application in my head
03:30.37buuNow see, parsing the *old* combat log is fun.
03:30.37hydrogenhavn't decided which one I want to learn more :)
03:30.52dylanmDefinitely Ruby are you crazy
03:30.57ajmitchdon't pick java for parsing
03:31.01buu"My Random Name suffers 56 fire damage from Some Random's fireblast"
03:31.01hydrogenand yes, I realize that C# is just a less portable java
03:31.05hydrogen:>
03:31.07Silverstormyeah...go with Ruby
03:31.07buuhydrogen: Use perl you fool.
03:31.16hydrogenfuck perl
03:31.23buuflips the giant switch labeled "Language Holy Wars"
03:31.28Silverstormlol, I've used both, it would be easy with either
03:31.33hydrogenyes
03:31.34kenlyricRuby on Fails
03:31.44kenlyricsorry, buu made me do it
03:31.46hydrogenrubys a pretty fun language to read
03:31.49buuI heard RoR is great if you don't mind restarting the box every 5 minutes
03:31.54hydrogenlotsa weirdo syntax
03:31.55kenlyricHE FLIPPED THE SWITCH
03:31.59hydrogenbut enjoyable :)
03:32.02ajmitchmight as well go for php then
03:32.06buuEww.
03:32.07hydrogenheh.. nope!
03:32.11Silverstormarrrgh, PHP is teh suck
03:32.13hydrogeneven i'm not going there
03:32.20hydrogentheres always self.python
03:32.20buuDon't even joke about that sort of thing.
03:32.29SilverstormI run RoR at work...never need to restart =p
03:32.35buuPython doesn't seem too bad, just slightly clumsy maybe.
03:32.46hydrogenor maybe I'll just fall back on what I know and do it in qt/c++
03:32.48hydrogenbut that'd be lame
03:33.02buuI wrote a parser for old-style combat log in C
03:33.03buuIt was fun.
03:33.18hydrogenoh it sounds it
03:33.31buuI actually used flex/yacc
03:33.35buuEr, flex/bison
03:33.39hydrogenI'd really like to write a big brother esque raid tracker eventually
03:33.49hydrogenthat can track raid members performance over weeks
03:33.52hydrogenand raids performance
03:33.55buuThat would be cool.
03:34.03hydrogenand be much more queryable than the wws stuff
03:34.16buuI occasionally have pretentions towards that sort of thing.
03:34.23hydrogenit'd give me an excuse to brush up on my sql skillz again as well
03:34.28buuAlso much better reports than wws
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03:37.54hydrogenah http://www.gurre.eu/wowlogparser/forum/ looks like someone had the same initial idea
03:43.04dylanmOh there are quite a few people doing things with the logs.
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03:53.48CIA-41BigWigs:
03:53.48CIA-41- zhCN update.(Thanks Feisky)
03:58.50starlonCan someone with pretty good sense with bitwise operations and combat log flags take a look at http://starlon.lyrical.net/files/TestAce3.zip for me? I know the basics from my college days but I'm stumped right now.
03:58.59OdlawWhen doing a SetText() on an editbox, if the text is larger than the editbox is, the text gets scrolled to the end, is there any way to scroll back to the beginning?
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04:59.40Olisonoh noes, with extra join/part
04:59.54Olisontime to make use of the ignore in irssi \o/
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05:07.53GitHub175http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/3a7a9520ff1d1329714a7fe49cc42fbaf91f7f9a
05:07.55GitHub175tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-6727398
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05:08.03GitHub175Merge branch 'master' into LightHeadedNPCMapping
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05:08.09GitHub175Merge branch 'master' into LightHeadedNPCMapping
05:08.11GitHub175http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/037050273460f908bf277ef10195a385f2e165e6
05:08.13GitHub175tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-5848953
05:08.15GitHub175If LH is present, poll it for NPC coords to map for Accept/Turnin objectives
05:08.17GitHub175http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/58489531f9205308ef4646725ec5a06593e33e19
05:08.19GitHub175tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-25323d3
05:08.21GitHub175TOO SOON DONGLE!  YOU'RE CALLING MY ENABLE TOO SOON!
05:08.23GitHub175http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/25323d35085ff65824b10c5eef919c9f1e27953c
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05:08.27sacarascnice flooding action
05:11.56starlonugh these combat log flags are giving me a headache
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05:12.08CIA-41RaidCooldowns_Display:
05:12.08CIA-41- Allow toggling of screen clamping.
05:12.08CIA-41- Allow exact positioning through text inputs.
05:12.09CIA-41- General cleanup of options display.
05:12.36starlonGot it working in my test addon, but not in my real addon. O.O
05:12.53Silverstormfun times with bits, eh?
05:12.59starlonyeah
05:15.05kadrahilmm bigwigs error
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05:17.36CIA-41TIRaid:
05:17.36CIA-41- Add initial item tracking in format prescribed by Rombus
05:17.36CIA-41- Will test this out next sunwell
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05:35.33CIA-41TIRaid:
05:35.33CIA-41- Add BT/Hyjal to tracking locations as well
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05:43.50CIA-4103stormfx * r73538 10ButtonFacade_LayerTest/: Created folder remotely
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05:45.45CIA-41ButtonFacade_LayerTest:
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05:49.35CIA-41TIRaid:
05:49.35CIA-41- Add some comments so I know wtf I did tomorrow
05:52.21starlonlol
05:52.57starlonright now my comments would be unsettling
05:56.16Ackislol
05:57.06LywellynSo they announced Inscripting is going to likely take Herbalism as a gathering prof.  Guess my 375 won't go to waste. lol
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06:04.41starlonGreat make the herbalists richer than they are already
06:04.47starlongg blizz
06:06.33CyrezMeh, it always happens.
06:07.11CyrezAt some point when JCing was still new, the price of Iron Ore was hitting the moon on my realm.
06:07.58CyrezMade a killing, lol.
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06:16.47CIA-41AckisRecipeList:
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06:32.03CIA-41Incubator:
06:32.03CIA-41- zhCN & zhTW update
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06:38.32CIA-41MorgDKP:
06:38.32CIA-41- fixed ML detection
06:38.32CIA-41- fixed autoloot method switching for MH trash
06:38.32CIA-41- remove CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM event
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06:45.49CIA-41Skillet:
06:45.49CIA-41- GetTradeSkillInfo function - Check index to exit function in a nil value
06:51.14Zeksiecan anyone confirm that UnitCanAssist("player", "target") when targetting a ghost in a battleground returns 1 or nil?
06:51.19Zeksiefriendly ghost that is
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06:53.56CIA-41Undercut:
06:53.56CIA-41- Remove overzealous error checking in GetAuctionItemSlotID, now correctly returns nil for items that don't have a slot ID (e.g., scrolls)
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07:18.01GitHub89Add new pets
07:18.03GitHub89http://github.com/tekkub/kennel/commit/27547c8fdc8ef0492ad3a8f504c2f1f6381f7fb9
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07:21.54Fisker-i hate you Tekkub
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07:21.58CIA-41Undercut:
07:21.58CIA-41- Get item link from GetContainerItemLink rather than tooltip
07:21.58[scott]Hi guys. I'm looking at two addons (chatter and omen) for svn properties for externals, but I'm not seeing them. How are they handling externals?
07:22.13Tekkubmeh
07:23.12Orionshock[scott]: check the libs folder inside them for svn props
07:24.16[scott]Yeah that's where they were. Thanks.
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07:24.32GitHub111Nil-safe GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE, seems it has issues on zoning
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07:25.37CIA-41CombatAlarm: initial commit
07:25.37CIA-41- An alarm for combat log events
07:27.08elite3vilAh bordom.
07:27.29elite3vil14 people in my guild are standing around in Org talking in /say right now.. (it's 3:30a)
07:27.33elite3vilrather than just talking in /g
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08:12.23CIA-41FocusInterruptSounds:
08:12.23CIA-41- Created a hardcoded blacklist
08:12.23CIA-41- Added some BT/Sunwell mobs to the blacklist
08:12.23CIA-41- Added a hungarian naming system to keep track of variables
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08:28.59CIA-41Whisp 20080512:
08:28.59CIA-41- Fixed script-error that would appear when trying to sync with deleted chatter-modules
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08:33.38theoddone33only four guilds that have downed muru, nice
08:33.43theoddone33one is on my old server
08:33.58theoddone33what happened to nihilum?
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08:42.02Nandiniyikes it takes 18 minutes, 36 seconds to fly from shattered sun staging area to booty bay
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08:50.14ennuilglol - I accidentally did Quel-Danas to IF and that took long enough!
08:50.36Kulaarhmm wer has "fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/branches/CoolDownButtons/rewrite" gone to?
08:51.04Kulaarwer = where oO
08:51.18hasteYou could check the SVN logs, and notice that it's moved to trunk
08:51.42Kulaarim not that kind of familiar to SVN
08:51.43Kulaarsry
08:51.49Kulaarbut thanks :)
08:52.49Funkeh`orly haste
08:53.04hasteFunkeh`: made BadBoy more me friendly :D ?
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08:53.47Funkeh`if you're talking about the whole saving messages deal, then no ;p
08:53.57hastehehe
08:54.37Funkeh`haste, the code for the popup is there, I don't think it would be too hard to make a personal copy ;p
08:54.59CIA-4103phyber * r73556 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/:
08:54.59CIA-41FuBar_NameToggleFu:
08:54.59CIA-41- Remove redundant set of svn:externals.
08:55.09hastemight as well just complete my original idea, not like it's much code to write
08:55.35Funkeh`true
08:55.52theoddone33wow
08:55.57theoddone33i didn't realize warlocks could summon into instances now
08:56.02Funkeh`you're just the only person to ask for it so not all that keen on adding something that won't really be used ;p
08:57.10hastewell, I'm the only one insane enough to want such a solution over the others, so no wonder :p
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09:00.02smoke_anyone here know anything about custom pitbull auras?
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09:16.40Burgermealwhy isnt the +hit calculation option on by default in drdamage?
09:17.34BurgermealI actually have to turn it on to get correct values out of it?
09:17.54Meradont know this addon sorry
09:18.22CIA-4103toadkiller * r73558 10AutoBar/ (16 files):
09:18.22CIA-41AutoBar :
09:18.22CIA-41-- Use button Name not key for Add Button
09:18.22CIA-41-- Start switching to LibStickyFrames-2.0
09:18.22CIA-41-- Internationalize {star} & {skull} used in Rotation Drums Button
09:18.22CIA-41-- Arrange on use for spells and macros. Issue with not showing regular items when mixed with spells in a category remains.
09:18.25CIA-41-- Fix outlining issue when clicking on popups. Introduce equipped green border scaling issue instead.
09:18.29CIA-4103polleke * r73557 10LibResComm-1.0/LibResComm-1.0.lua:
09:18.31CIA-41LibResComm-1.0:
09:18.33CIA-41- Implemented NORESSED (credits to oRA2)
09:19.42CIA-4103yleaf * r73559 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (GridStatusRaidDebuff.toc GridStatusRaidDebuffLocale-zhCN.lua):
09:19.42CIA-41GridStatusRaidDebuff:
09:19.42CIA-41- zhCN added.(thanks scvsh )
09:19.52CIA-4103schelli * r73560 10GridAutoFrameSize/GridAutoFrameSize.lua: GridAutoFrameSize : new zones defined
09:20.32CIA-4103diablohu * r73561 10PallyPower/locale/zhCN.lua:
09:20.32CIA-41PallyPower:
09:20.32CIA-41- zhCN update
09:21.41CIA-4103polleke * r73562 10GridStatusRes/ (GridStatusRes.lua GridStatusRes.toc):
09:21.41CIA-41GridStatusRes:
09:21.41CIA-41- Use ResComm_ResExpired
09:22.09CIA-4103schelli * r73563 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/FuBar_DebuggerFu.toc: FuBar_DebuggerFu.toc : updated to 2.4
09:22.34CIA-4103schelli * r73564 10FuBar_MCPFu/FuBar_MCPFu.toc: FuBar_MCPFu.toc : updated to 2.4
09:22.38CIA-4103schelli * r73565 10GridAutoFrameSize/GridAutoFrameSize.toc: GridAutoFrameSize : updated to 2.4
09:22.46CIA-4103schelli 07Schelli * r73566 10IceHUD/IceHUD.toc: IceHUD.toc : updated to 2.4
09:22.58CIA-4103schelli 07Schelli * r73567 10IceHUD_Hunter/IceHUD_Hunter.toc: IceHUD_Hunter.toc : updated to 2.4
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09:34.21PollekeSaroz, ResComm_ResExpired has been added
09:38.14CIA-4103nevcairiel * r73568 10LoggerHead/ (LoggerHead.lua LoggerHead.toc embeds.xml libs/): LoggerHead: Sink-2.0
09:39.12[Liquidor]Good morning everyone.
09:39.28digmousedinner time almost
09:39.34[SW]Dodgegmorning [Liquidor]
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09:40.23Gibbonz|Work_heh, just updated forum sigs and noticed that my 24 shammy has more crit% than my 65 druid main ;p
09:40.41[SW]Dodgelol
09:40.55DiskmasterHey, has BigWigs been updated since r72870?
09:41.12vhaarr<CIA-46> funkydude * r73554 BigWigs/ZulAman/Halazzi.lua: BigWigs: bugfix line 128, translators try not to break addons please
09:41.25digmousebigwigs get a typo in halazzi module
09:41.25DiskmasterOk, not reporting that bug.
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09:41.52DiskmasterMust have not sync'd early enough. :/
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09:46.59Gibbonz|Work_13.29 vs 13.04%, or 68 vs 267 agi.. *confused*
09:49.24CIA-4103profalbert * r73569 10Parrot/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
09:49.24CIA-41Parrot:
09:49.24CIA-41- made Damagetypes localizable
09:49.24CIA-41- deDE update
09:57.16AntiarcWhat the hell.
09:57.23Fisker-GIEV MONEY
09:57.27AntiarcIE8 doesn't support opacity via CSS.
09:57.32AntiarcIf you specify a doctype.
09:57.53AntiarcIE6 may not have alpha channel support for PNGs, but it at least has SOME support for CSS opacity.
09:58.00AntiarcMassive, massive, massive fail.
09:58.06Fisker-your mother >*
09:58.07Fisker-:(
09:58.12Fisker-report it :<
09:58.24Antiarcit's a known issue
09:58.26AntiarcBut uh.
09:58.28FtH|Daemonai got Bill's cellphone number, want it Antiarc ? ;)
09:58.39AntiarcFtH|Daemona: I don't think he works on IE >_>
09:58.54AntiarcBut damned if I'm not tempted to find a developer blog and just go off on them.
09:59.03AntiarcBecause this is absolutely pathetic.
09:59.04Fisker-luckily :D
09:59.55hastedidn't IE8 have two modes?
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10:00.00FtH|Daemonaspots an image of a small nuclear explosion over an IE8 icon with the caption "this happens when you use css opacity on IE8"
10:00.04hastelike.. you had to tell it not to render stuff like fail
10:00.23Fisker-it has 3 modes actually
10:00.24nevcairielyou can set it to IE7 compat mode
10:00.26nevcairielwhich is still fail
10:00.38Fisker-but yeah
10:00.45Fisker-it's possible it may not be running standards mode
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10:01.12FtH|Daemonauuh i guess its running standard ... the M$ standard
10:01.35Fisker-no
10:01.47Fisker-and M$ was never funny
10:01.48Fisker-give it up
10:03.01Punkiesup Fisker-
10:04.22Fisker-sup Punkie
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10:08.54Diaough
10:09.02Diaoevery day at 3am blackrock lags randomly
10:09.10Diaoas if it's doing honor calcs like the old days
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10:12.40Kazie[SW]Dodge: Hey mate, i was just wondering today while updating addons.. Do you plan on supporting FacadeButtons in the future?
10:13.04[SW]DodgeKazie: in future? ButtonFacade? it is suppoted :O
10:13.07[SW]Dodge+r
10:13.08harldephini was wondering today why my omen doesn't work
10:13.27Olison[SW]Dodge: hey mate, i was just wondering why pull a unfinished addon in /trunk :P
10:13.33Kazie[SW]Dodge: hmm.. shouldn't it show up in ButtonFacade then? :)
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10:14.33[SW]DodgeKazie: http://dodgex.servegame.com/bf.jpg
10:15.36Kaziehmm that's wierd.. maybe i should try reinstall both addons then, cuz it ain't showing up in my BF .. odd rly
10:16.25CIA-4103saroz * r73570 10sRaidFrames/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
10:16.25CIA-41sRaidFrames:
10:16.25CIA-41- Add LibResComm-1.0
10:16.25CIA-41- Fix translation shit
10:16.25CIA-41- Update SetStatus to allow for updates
10:16.50CIA-4103snago * r73571 10oUF_PowerSpark/ (oUF_PowerSpark.lua readme.txt):
10:16.50CIA-41oUF_PowerSpark:
10:16.50CIA-41- Hide mana ticker at full mana.
10:18.02[SW]DodgeKazie: cdb is even shown in bf when only have cdb and BF enabled
10:18.45Kazie[SW]Dodge: I figured, but i'm reinstalling them right now, since they simply did not show cdb in fb - I can't really explain it ^^
10:21.25harldephinwut? who mates with whom?
10:21.46Kazie[SW]Dodge: It seems to have fixed it, cdb is now shown in fb :) .. so no sweat hehe
10:21.59[SW]Dodge=D
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10:34.47CIA-4103snago * r73572 10oUF_PowerSpark/oUF_PowerSpark.lua:
10:34.47CIA-41oUF_PowerSpark:
10:34.48CIA-41- Hide spark at full mana at login as well
10:35.06Gibbonz|Work__Zeksie: not sure if its a bug or just wow, but I've noticed the player name isn't always coloured correctly if your flagged for pvp. It seems undecided whether it wants to be class coloured or green ;p
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10:48.10CIA-4103next96 * r73573 10sRaidFrames/locales/koKR.lua:
10:48.10CIA-41sRaidFrames:
10:48.10CIA-41- Update locale koKR
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10:50.44CIA-4103next96 * r73574 10Violation/locales/koKR.lua:
10:50.44CIA-41Violation:
10:50.44CIA-41- Update locale koKR
10:53.02nevcairiel~tuplad
10:53.02purlhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/51.jpg
10:55.14KriLL3I wish someone could make a prat module that does what Eloquence does, Eloquence isn't in development anymore and prat does some of what it does, but not the main part, namely making acronyms into proper English, and adding punctuation among other things, resulting in the strings of near gibberish people use in wow turns into proper sentences  
10:55.39CIA-4103dodge * r73575 10CoolDownButtons/ (5 files in 4 dirs): CoolDownButtons: added Option to Disable the ButtonBars for Spells/Items
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10:58.18charonKriLL3: Eloquence has been integrated into Player-2.0. you should simply tell the remaining WoW.exe instances to update their version of Player. Player-1.2 is deprecated now.
10:58.54KriLL3charon: huh?
10:59.25charon</joke>
10:59.41KriLL3oh
11:00.11KriLL3yeah I don't use as much jargon as most do, but people look at you funny if you say "want to buy" instead of "wtb"
11:01.55vhaarrnevcairiel: what reminded you of that guy? :P
11:01.59vhaarrlest we forget!
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11:02.10nevcairieli was looking for a img
11:02.13KriLL3it's just hard after using it for years to go back to abbreviation hell
11:02.16vhaarrKriLL3: there are some addons that do it I think
11:02.20nevcairielthe lvl 5 forum troll jpg
11:02.25nevcairielthought it was in his entry
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11:02.29KriLL3vhaarr: know of any?
11:02.29vhaarrKriLL3: someone was asking on the forums a week or so ago
11:02.46KriLL3eloquence is the only one like it I've seen, but it causes crashes for me now :(
11:02.58KriLL3dunno if it would help if I turned off prat
11:05.26CIA-4103StiviS * r73576 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
11:05.26CIA-41AutoBar :
11:05.26CIA-41- esES updated
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11:05.53Zeksieping Xinhuan
11:05.59Xinhuanhi
11:06.03Zeksierequest for postal ;)
11:06.13Xinhuanwhat is it
11:06.27Zeksieif you're putting in mutiple stacks of same item, get it to give the real total for that item in the subject
11:06.35Zeksieinstead of just the first stack
11:08.08Xinhuanwhat if i have multiple stacks of the same thing
11:08.16Xinhuani mean differnt thing
11:08.36Zeksiecould say Multiple Items (XX total) something
11:09.14Zeksiebut it'd be great for when you're mailing 240 Netherweave, that it says 240, instead of 20 :)
11:09.39Xinhuando you really read the number in the mail? ;d
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11:10.25Zeksiei store a lot of stuff on mail, yeha
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11:20.54ZhinjioXinhuan: remember the thing we talked about with the layout-cache thing?
11:21.10CIA-4103kurax * r73577 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/crafting.en.lua:
11:21.10CIA-41AtlasLoot_Crafting:
11:21.10CIA-41- Add Jewelcrafting data
11:22.42Zhinjioyou had suggested SetUserPlaced(false) as a fix
11:22.59Zhinjiothat apparently did not work. I just got another bug report.
11:28.09CIA-4103kurax * r73578 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
11:28.09CIA-41AtlasLoot:
11:28.09CIA-41- Add Jewelcrafting profession
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11:34.58Gibbonz|Worknice kurax
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11:35.07Kurax=p
11:35.28OlisonJC, is that like new or something?
11:35.28Olison:P
11:35.49KuraxJust a complete list
11:35.56Gibbonz|Workhehe.. wonder how quick the uptake of Inscription will be ;p
11:37.06KuraxThe team has already start working on a new module named AtlasLoot_WotLKInstances hehe
11:37.35stew_acurious, calling msg=msg:tostring() in an AddMessage hook seems to break half my UI :S
11:37.53Gibbonz|Workwhy not just _LKInstances ? ;p
11:38.16nevcairielstew_a: i didnt know the string object had a tostring function
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11:39.34stew_athat could be why lol
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11:46.21CIA-4103ghenningp * r73579 10DemocraticReadyCheck/ (. DemocraticReadyCheck.toc embeds.xml):
11:46.21CIA-41DemocraticReadyCheck:
11:46.21CIA-41<PROTECTED>
11:46.21CIA-41<PROTECTED>
11:46.21CIA-41<PROTECTED>
11:49.18CIA-4103scorpio0920 * r73580 10UnderHood/Localization/localization-zhTW.lua:
11:49.18CIA-41UnderHood:
11:49.18CIA-41- Update zhTW localization.
11:49.23CIA-4103Kyopaxa * r73581 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell (esES) localization of last changes.
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12:06.38ObelixprimeI got a question... there's a deadspot on my ui and I can't figure out what's causing it
12:06.49stew_aWhereMyCow is usually handy
12:07.49Obelixprime?
12:07.57Obelixprimeis that on wowacE?
12:08.05profalbertit is
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12:09.43Obelixprimegot it
12:09.45Obelixprimethanks
12:09.48CIA-4103ananhaid * r73582 10Parrot/Locales/ (ParrotLocale-zhCN.lua ParrotLocale-zhTW.lua):
12:09.48CIA-41Parrot:
12:09.48CIA-41- zhCN/zhTW update.
12:10.53silentiumDemocraticReadyCheck? sounds funny, does it implement election campains?
12:11.53Pollekeif the majority of raiders are ready, the raid is ready, even when someone is not
12:12.57profalbertbut why start a fight without all the raiders ready?
12:13.25silentiumthe afk-ers will have to live with the majority's decision I guess
12:14.50ObelixprimeIts the coalition of the willing!
12:15.11Pollekeah, looking at the code. It distributes the ready state (clicked yes/no. AFK) to non promoted members
12:16.09Obelixprimehmmm
12:16.35Obelixprimewith where's my cow i get a bunch of info, but there doesn't appear to be too much of a difference between the two areas on my screen
12:17.20nevcairielI generally just use the frame stack of DevTools
12:17.33nevcairielwith dead-spot you mean a area where you cant click, right?
12:18.06Obelixprimei can notice the deadspot in bagnon and a bunch of other places
12:18.11Obelixprimeits in the same area
12:18.29Obelixprimewhere i can highlight a button but i can't click it
12:18.47nevcairielHm, if you can highlight it, it should be click-able too
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12:19.14Obelixprimethat's teh crazy part.. i have to click on the edge of the button for it to register
12:22.52Roblibobhoy. A Q: Is there a addon that moves people around in raids? Or is that not possible?
12:23.21nevcairielits not possible during combat
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12:23.56RoblibobHm, ok.
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12:26.17CIA-4103ananhaid * r73583 10LibSink-2.0/LibSink-2.0/LibSink-2.0.lua:
12:26.18CIA-41LibSink-2.0:
12:26.18CIA-41- zhCN update.
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13:01.00Zynderpsoh gg, eu forums exploded
13:06.01mikmasomeone knows good lootlist-pages?
13:06.04mikma(not wow-loot.com)
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13:11.19CIA-4103Footrot * r73584 10GhostPulse/ (6 files):
13:11.19CIA-41GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-12
13:11.19CIA-41- Added support for in-game sounds with a path in the 'sounds\' folder.
13:11.19CIA-41- Added the threat generator resist/miss alert type for target and focus.
13:11.20CIA-41- Fixed the texture path for Player Deaths.
13:11.22CIA-41- Localization required for the threat generator resist/miss alert type.
13:12.44CIA-4103saroz * r73585 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesHealing.lua: sRaidFrames: Bugfix healing
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13:14.20ramozmikma: anything wrong with wowhead+ :O
13:14.31ramozoh
13:14.31ramoznvm
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13:15.56CIA-4103saroz * r73586 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesHealing.lua: sRaidFrames: Optimize a bit
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13:30.25CIA-4103Footrot * r73587 10GhostPulse/Pulse.lua:
13:30.25CIA-41GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-12
13:30.25CIA-41- Added code to set the correct font for the pulse texts for Chinese.
13:30.57CIA-4103Footrot * r73588 10GhostPulse/GhostPulse.toc:
13:30.57CIA-41GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-12
13:30.57CIA-41- Phantom change to bump the displayed revision.
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13:32.28Saroz!taintlog
13:32.37Sarozhow do you activate the taint log?
13:32.48nevcairiel./console taintLog 1
13:32.52nevcairielor 2 for more details
13:32.54nevcairieland more spam
13:33.03SarozI like details
13:33.09Kurax2 eats your harddrive
13:33.12nevcairielit'll report so much stuff
13:33.12[scott]That's what she said
13:33.42[scott]God I'm up too early
13:34.11KuraxIt can easily take your 10G spaces and reduce lots of fps in game
13:34.34Sarozok ok
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13:53.38Ackismorning everyone
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13:54.53nevcairielmorning
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14:03.59DarkElfpredicts holy hell tomorrow lol
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14:05.51dylanmHm?
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14:15.56[scott]wtf is holy hell? you catholic?
14:16.15[scott]hides.
14:17.26DarkElfwell tomorrow the servers go down, i just feel an itch in my bones that a patch will happen
14:18.50_raneit's likely..
14:19.43[scott]uh oh time to cancel raids
14:20.04profalbertnever play on patch day?
14:20.24[scott]used to. I imagine some guilds do.
14:23.10mykxlol why would you cancel your raid because of a patch? clearly with no mods you cannot raid
14:23.22[scott]seriously
14:23.43CIA-4103kurax * r73589 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/crafting.en.lua:
14:23.43CIA-41AtlasLoot_Crafting:
14:23.43CIA-41- Add data of all professions
14:25.36Ackisanyone here play on Chinese servers?
14:25.37vithosthe realm/instance servers often lag/crash on patch day.  though i wouldn't expect a minor patch like 2.4.2 to be that bad, and my guild doesn't cancel raids for major patches either
14:25.53CIA-4103starlon * r73590 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Clean up a bit
14:28.33Fisker-Punkie
14:28.38Fisker-i'm having sex with your dead corpse
14:29.19[scott]it's called teabagging
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14:30.15KuraxAckis: <--
14:30.31CIA-4103ackis * r73591 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua:
14:30.31CIA-41TIRaid:
14:30.31CIA-41- Changed COMBAT_EVENT logic somewhat
14:31.13AckisKurax: do you know about the chinese dragon pet?
14:31.35Kuraxnever seen it
14:31.56Ackishmm apparently it was part of the coke promotion thing for the Chineses servers, was really curious about it
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14:32.31PunkieFisker-: it's not dead it's just hibernating
14:32.35KuraxThat's about 3 years ago
14:32.53Fisker-nah
14:32.57Fisker-it's dead
14:32.59Fisker-i made certain of it
14:33.16AckisKurax: pity, wanted to see screenies of it lol /sadfaced
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14:34.17KuraxIt's looks more like a loach
14:35.21KuraxI've seen screenshots somewhere years ago, but never seen it in game
14:35.23dylanmhttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/thumb/b/b6/Chinadragon.jpg/771px-Chinadragon.jpg
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14:35.57CIA-4103profalbert * r73592 10Parrot/Locales/ParrotLocale-deDE.lua:
14:35.57CIA-41Parrot:
14:35.57CIA-41- deDE update
14:36.03KuraxYeah this one
14:36.04Ackisdamn that looks sexy
14:36.09Kuraxlol
14:36.23[scott]It has plenty of character
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14:37.25PunkieFisker-: http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/ammo2.jpg
14:37.31Punkiebet you want to teabag ammo!
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14:44.51CIA-4103dodge * r73593 10CoolDownButtons/Prototypes/Cooldown_Managing.lua:
14:44.51CIA-41CoolDownButtons:
14:44.51CIA-41- removed leading zero from cooldown timeer
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14:49.44Fisker-23000g
14:49.47Fisker-when my auctions are sold
14:51.22Fisker-hohoho
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14:54.15phyberFisker-: nice.  I'd probably have that, but I stopped doing dailies after I bought that SSO title a few weeks back :)
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14:57.48Poul|Raiderthats nothing Fisker-, slant said he had like 90k based on his AH buy/selling :D
14:57.57CIA-4103Vig * r73594 10AssignAssist/ (10 files):
14:57.57CIA-41AssignAssist: version 0.12 interface 0.12
14:57.57CIA-41- Added smart targetting/raidicon functions to add jobs and targets faster
14:57.57CIA-41- Started on making a readonly gui (40% done), note that events for leadership changes dont work yet, busy on that.
14:57.58CIA-41- Fixed a bug during getting of raidmembers.
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14:59.54CIA-4103aceclaw * r73595 10WorldTradeCenter/ (Hooks.lua Main.lua):
14:59.54CIA-41WorldTradeCenter:
14:59.54CIA-41- Guild channel
14:59.54CIA-41- Duplicate broadcast detection
15:00.05Gibbonz|Work_still a nice amount to have lying around though
15:01.18Gibbonz|Worksoon as i can fly i'll be doing some heavy mote farming ;p
15:02.26CIA-4103dodge 072.1 * r73596 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 4 dirs): CoolDownButtons: commit of some changes made to trunk (dont like the red exclamation marks)
15:02.49GnarfozPoul|Raider: gotta check with Xinhuan about how much he's at nowadays
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15:04.47Irish`I just hover around 35k
15:05.15Irish`I feel like it's hard to get really motivated to make more money when you don't know what to do with what you have
15:05.39KaaosaYou could transfer to my server and give the money to me :D
15:05.47Irish`sounds like a poor decision
15:05.57KaaosaBut a decision none the less!
15:06.04Irish`I guess I can't argue that
15:06.05Ordogwhat did you do to earn it? dailies with 7 toons ?
15:06.19Ordogwowglider pwnage? ^^
15:06.20Gandochdailies with one toon
15:06.30Gandochand I played FFXI :P
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15:09.30Gibbonz|WorkGandoch: while doing dailies? :)
15:10.32Gandochhaha. the economy was just so bad and screwed up in FFXI and I learned how to make money there (had ~3 million gil as a 60BLM) that WoW just seemed a lot easier
15:11.31Gandochand I did all my quests on my way to 70 and after I hit 70 so I had my epic flyer before dailies... after that... I don't know, you just get money for doing stuff. and I do stuff, so I get money
15:13.28Ozguli`I find that interesting as well.. whatever you do, you get more gold - unless you die a lot
15:13.48Gandochrofl, very true
15:13.57CIA-4103funkydude * r73597 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: Updated blacklist
15:14.04PolarinaImbalanced economy.
15:14.13Gandochraiding would be substantially cheaper if people didn't do everything in their power to wipe the group
15:14.32Gibbonz|Workhehe
15:15.22phyberhey, they had a really good reason for standing at the back of the RoS gauntlet and pulling the ghosts into the encounter 20 times!
15:15.51Gandochthey always claim that, but they never let me know what it is
15:16.14Gandochat least I can understand running into blizzards after a flamestrike on Council, they were hot
15:16.28Gandochbut... ghosts are just scary, and should be avoided
15:17.18phyberit's those tricky ones 'Casper <Friendly Ghost>', that they keep falling for.
15:20.21Gnarfoz~seen wobin
15:20.24purlwobin <n=Wobin@124-168-158-84.dyn.iinet.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 10d 2h 47m 49s ago, saying: 'hehe best game ever'.
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15:26.24Gibbonz|Workplaying with the wow ui sure is a game... dunno about 'best ever' though :P
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15:29.18IndustrialGibbonz|Work: they wrote a 1022 page book about it so
15:29.23Industrialyes its fun ! :D
15:31.21Gibbonz|Workdepends where the fun comes from I suppose, the debugging or that dozens of people are using your work :)
15:31.45GnarfozI don't even know how you can put that 'last line said' into context
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15:34.40Gibbonz|Workmeh.. I'll just hush then :)
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15:39.32IndustrialGibbonz|Work: IRC convos can span days in some channels (where noone leaves and joins)
15:40.14IndustrialGibbonz|Work: The fun for me is putting what you know about programming in general to use, making things that fulfill your personal needs
15:40.24IndustrialAlso learning more about programming in general
15:41.07IndustrialIt's like a little playground to poke around at stuff
15:41.14Industrialofcourse thats just what I do with it
15:41.31Industrialother peopler go and make really big projects and stuff, but that's what's fun to them :)
15:41.34Industrial-r
15:41.54hasteis working on a really big Lua project.
15:42.00Industrial:o
15:42.03Psycho|Workwonders what that could be.
15:42.06Industrial^
15:42.19hasteisn't WoW related! *rawr*
15:42.35Industrialrewriting the anime-bittorrent-thingy?
15:42.35Psycho|WorkDidn't know lua existed outside of UI mods.
15:42.42hasteno, that one is pretty small
15:42.58hasteit's related tho' :p
15:43.05Industrialurl :D?
15:43.11hastethere isn't one
15:43.23IndustrialPsycho|Work: Lua is a general purpose programming language so you can do pretty much everything with it..
15:43.34Psycho|Workwas kidding and was aware of that.
15:43.37Industrial>_>
15:43.41Industrialyou never know
15:43.52Fisker-haste !
15:43.54Psycho|WorkAnd if I hadn't known I would be appreciative of your information.
15:43.55hasteI need to rewrite btrss also tho'
15:44.39hasteFisker-: send me some gold!
15:45.13Fisker-no!
15:45.16haste>:(
15:45.28Fisker-|>(
15:45.29Fisker->:)
15:45.31Fisker-btw
15:45.32Fisker-you playing?
15:45.46IndustrialFisker-: where do you play?
15:45.51Industrialravenholdt?
15:46.01hasteFisker-: no, not online atm
15:46.02Industrialvashj? silvermoon? kazzak?
15:46.07hasteIndustrial: ravencrest
15:46.08Industrialboulderfist?
15:48.15Ackiswhat's a good quest mod replacement for questFu? I recall someone mentioning the same author wrote a newer/better version?
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15:49.08aestilnquestlog is better imo
15:49.29AckisI'll give it a shot then
15:49.47Gibbonz|Workheh didn't mean what I said like its been interpreted... of course its fun to play with code :)
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15:51.36dylanmKemayo wrote something called uh BetterQuest.
15:53.17Industrialdidnt kemayo also write questsFu?
15:53.42nevcairielBetterQuest is a successor to QuestFu, iirc
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15:54.16Gibbonz|Workspeaking of quest stuff, is there an Ace mod similar to QuestHelper?
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16:01.40AckisQuestHelper makes my PC throw up :(
16:01.59AckisI think ckknight was thinking about doing something, but I'm not sure where it is on his priority list
16:02.22ckknightit's after CurseForge releases, minimally
16:02.25ckknightand that's next Monday
16:02.34ckknightbut it'd still be a ways off
16:02.42Ackisspeak of the devil
16:03.39Fisker-~seen Kody-
16:03.43purlkody- is currently on #norganna (7h 41m 41s) #wowuidev (7h 41m 41s) #wowace (7h 41m 41s), last said: 'achievement'.
16:03.47Fisker-ckknight Kody- is the curse Kody- right?
16:03.53ckknighthe sure is
16:04.05Fisker-gotta harass him when he wakes up
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16:07.03Ackisis there a way to fire events for testing purposes? :D
16:07.24Pkekyo|poopie cojõnes
16:08.02ravagernlI didn know you developed in websites ckknight
16:08.14ckknightI do a whole bunch of things
16:08.19JJSheetsAckis, if you know the frame with the onevent handler, you could always just get that handler and start calling it with the test events.
16:08.22ckknightbut yes, I've been working on CurseForge
16:08.26ckknightit's shaping up to be very nice
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16:08.45JJSheetsvhaarr, ping
16:08.56ravagernlI certainly see that
16:09.27ravagernlI've heared rumours about merging curseforge and wowace svn, are those true?
16:10.09FtH|Daemonauhm... interesting Humor... "WorldTradeCenter" - Make better use of your trade skills.
16:10.12CIA-4103charon * r73599 10LoggerHead/embeds.xml: LoggerHead: Ninja fix embeds.xml: use <include> for XMLs
16:10.13FtH|Daemonaa little morbid....
16:10.32nevcairielheh
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16:11.00AckisThere is more than one world trade centre... I have one across the street from where I work
16:11.09nevcairielcharon: i knew i shouldnt touch stuff before having coffee
16:11.28charon:)
16:11.32charoncoffee is a good iead.
16:11.36charon*idea. (qed)
16:12.41Chomperslooking forward to curseforge, just to see it in action
16:13.04IndustrialAckis: Lightheaded+TomTom ?
16:13.12IndustrialAckis: maybe TourGuide?
16:13.28vhaarrJJSheets: pong
16:13.55JJSheetsvhaarr, out of curiosity, what are you using LibCompress for?  :)
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16:14.06vhaarrJJSheets: nothing yet, I'm considering using it for CraftyGnome
16:14.21JJSheetsAh, cool.
16:14.28AckisIndustrial: I've heard "magic" about those, never actually tried them
16:14.38JJSheetsloves TourGuide.
16:15.23IndustrialJJSheets: its getting automatic pointing to NPC's for picking up/delivering quests soon
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16:15.35JJSheetsNiftay
16:15.42vhaarrJJSheets: it saves all the recipe links, but I don't know if they're too big or not, I doubt it
16:15.49Industrialcuz its working with quiest id's now and LH has the info for the NPC's per quest id
16:15.51vhaarrall the recipe links of your professions
16:16.28vhaarrand I can probably shorten it down to just saving the ID + name anyway and then rebuild the links when needed
16:16.47JJSheetsvhaarr, depends on how you go about compressing them, but links by themselves likely won't compress well at all.
16:16.55Gnarfozhow is it Xparky is full of bugs? :<
16:17.01JJSheetsIndustrial, Cool, that'll be nice.
16:17.02vhaarr["|cffffd000|Henchant:31089|h[Jewelcrafting: Bright Living Ruby]|h|r"] = 70,
16:17.12JJSheetsGnarfoz, because Wobin is a busy guy.  :p
16:17.24vhaarrI'm just concerned the SVs will fill up
16:17.32Gnarfozmeh, FuXPFu buggy, Xparky buggy, wth :(
16:17.55JJSheetsvhaarr, it may be easier to serialize your table then compress that.  not sure.
16:18.07DragonWinIs there a command I can do to check if an addon has registered for an event ?
16:18.33vhaarrDragonWin: Addon:IsEventRegistered("EVENTNAME")
16:18.52DragonWinthank you
16:19.43PolarinaAnyone recalls what Lua is?
16:21.00vithosmoon in portugese i think
16:21.18Polarinavithos: Perhaps purl knows?
16:21.28vithos~Lua
16:21.29purlLua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym. Its name is derived from the Latin word "Luna" which means "moon".
16:21.43Polarinavithos: You lied to me!
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16:22.19vithos:(
16:22.21charonnot really. according to wp & homepage it _does_ mean moon in portuguese, and portuguese is derived from latin :P
16:22.32IndustrialGnarfoz: fix it! :p
16:24.06GnarfozIndustrial: I'm at it, I just fixed the first error but that only unearthed another 2
16:25.36Industrial:o
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16:28.15harldephinis there an ace add-on for saving the information provided by inspecting other players?
16:29.07Polarinaharldephin: Why always Ace?
16:29.14ravagernlharldephin: examiner
16:29.26ravagernland no, it's not ace
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16:32.15vhaarrwhy not always ace? :P
16:33.06Ackisimo ACE add-ons are better than ace add-ons!
16:33.21vhaarrpff, wowace.com addons pwn ACE addons
16:33.27Fisker-I HAVE MONEY
16:33.57Polarinavhaarr: Ace is not an acronym.
16:34.06Ackislawls
16:34.08vhaarr:P
16:34.22Ackis~ACE
16:34.22purl[ace] a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind.  See http://www.wowace.com/
16:34.28Ackis~Ace
16:34.29purlextra, extra, read all about it, ace is a lightweight and powerful system for building World of Warcraft addons. It is coded to keep CPU-usage, memory-usage, and GC churn in mind.  See http://www.wowace.com/
16:34.34Ackislol
16:34.37harldephinPolarina: why not. i thought that, since i've already got that many ace add-ons i'm happy with, another ace add-on might make me more happy than some other. additionally, since an ace add-on may share some libraries, it hence may run smoother and have a greater chance of being up-to-date.
16:35.04Polarinaharldephin: Changes are not facts. :)
16:35.05vhaarrPolarina: I hope you were joking, but it's hard to tell from IRC.
16:35.42Polarinavhaarr: Sorry for letting you down then. Ace really isn't an acronym.
16:35.52vhaarr~whalecrit Polarina
16:35.52purlACTION crits Polarina with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Polarina dies
16:36.23nevcairielACE is alot of acronyms: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ace
16:36.36charonckknight: when zoning into an instance i got [2008/05/12 18:33:09-1757-x1]: Cartographer3-3.0 Development\Cartographer.lua:2829: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value)
16:36.49harldephinPolarina: well, i didn't say that there couldn't be any other non-ace add-on which i might not be happy with as well. it's just that it's pretty acey here, so i thought why not ask for something acey.
16:37.00charon(looks like a race to me)
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16:37.53nevcairielrACE you say?
16:37.58*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Welcome to #wowACE, Acidity in Cloud Experiment
16:38.14Ackislol
16:39.00Polarinao.O
16:39.53charonso we finally have an answer for the people who come here asking if this is #wowace!
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16:40.02charoncheers at vhaarr!
16:40.10harldephinravagernl: thanks for pointing me to examiner. and, of course, i'll give it a try, nevertheless *pointing something pointy at Polarina*
16:40.15vhaarrindeed, rejoice!
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16:42.36[SW]DodgeJJSheets: ping
16:42.44JJSheets[SW]Dodge, pong
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16:43.16ckknightcharon: could be. hrm. Um, remember that bug, and when we launch curseforge, place it on there :-P
16:43.28ckknightor just put it on jira now
16:43.30ckknighteither works
16:43.30[SW]Dodgeany idea how to fix the bug? http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6258/cdbbfsr6.jpg with BF border over the timer?
16:43.35charonckknight: ok will do
16:44.00Fisker-how does Cartographer 3 look now?
16:44.01Psycho|WorkOoooh, pretty timers.
16:44.08ckknightbut I plan to close the jira (for making new tickets) for my projects when CF launches.
16:44.13Fisker-usable?
16:44.13[SW]DodgeJJSheets: or can you tell me framestrat/level of the border that i can set my text frame higher?
16:44.16Fisker-or still just google maps? :P
16:44.16Psycho|WorkFisker-: I use it as my full-time map addon.
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16:44.35Fisker-~cartographer 3
16:44.36nevcairielckknight: i hope your ticket system is as powerful as jira, i just got to love the feature set :)
16:44.41Fisker-~cartographer3
16:44.41purlextra, extra, read all about it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
16:44.45charonckknight: ... under cartographer? it does not track carto3 as far as i can tell
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16:45.18KaaosaDoes Cart3 have BG maps yet? :x
16:45.19charonoh. *sigh*
16:45.30charonnotes to self: do not speak while browser is loading answer in background
16:45.34JJSheets[SW]Dodge, set your text to OVERLAY frame level 6 if possible.
16:45.47ckknightcharon: Cartographer3 is a section under Cartographer
16:45.48[SW]DodgeJJSheets: ok i'll test
16:46.15ckknightnevcairiel: I prefer Curseforge's, it's so much faster, it has most of the features of jira, and if you're missing a feature, put in a request and it'll get added.
16:46.33nevcairielI didnt really get around to testing it yet
16:46.48Polarinackknight: I don't know. It curses a but too much at me.
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16:47.00ckknightPolarina: ? :-P
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16:47.12ckknightnevcairiel: we use the ticketing system to track curseforge's bugs: http://curseforge.com/projects/CurseForge/tickets/
16:47.13ckknight:-P
16:47.18Polarinas/but/bit/
16:47.26ckknightwhat curses?
16:47.36Polarinackknight: Curseforge.
16:47.50nevcairielckknight: some way to specify sub-components would be nice
16:47.53KaaosaI think you've been zinged, ckk
16:48.20CIA-4103ackis * r73600 10AltTabber/ (. AltTabber.lua AltTabber.toc embeds.xml):
16:48.20CIA-41AltTabber:
16:48.20CIA-41- Initial commit
16:48.26ckknightnevcairiel: well, if you file a ticket asking for submodules, I'd be for it
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16:49.12Fisker-wuts dis Ackis?
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16:49.38AckisPlays a sound on ready check when your sound is off and you're alt-tabbed
16:50.00mykxahh nice Ackis
16:50.10mykxwipe recovery = alt tabbed lol
16:50.15Ackisexactly
16:50.53Fisker-fail!
16:51.13nevcairieldoes it enable sound-in-backgroudn before? :P
16:51.17[SW]DodgeJJSheets: cant get the text above the border >.<
16:51.33genetikckknight: where's the best (only?) place to file bugs in curseforge?
16:51.34Ackisnevcairiel: no, good point though
16:51.48ckknightgenetik: http://curseforge.com/projects/CurseForge/tickets/
16:51.51genetikk
16:52.17genetikcan you get to that page through navigation? i couldn't find it
16:52.27JJSheets[SW]Dodge, I'll look at it later
16:52.44ckknightgenetik: if you go to http://curseforge.com/projects/CurseForge/ and click "see more tickets" or actions -
16:52.46CIA-4103ackis * r73601 10AltTabber/:
16:52.46CIA-41AltTabber:
16:52.46CIA-41- Add svn:externals
16:52.47ckknight> post ticket
16:52.59SarozLOL
16:53.03Sarozehhh
16:53.14[SW]DodgeJJSheets: ok
16:53.20Sarozcurseforge... I log in, and have a ton of tickets assigned to me, and some dude on my profile picture
16:53.21Sarozwtf
16:53.32SarozMy Projects (2)
16:53.34ckknightSaroz: that page isn't done yet.
16:53.36SarozAtlasloot Enhanced
16:53.38SarozOmen Threatmeter
16:53.39Sarozyahaa
16:53.43ckknightit's mostly static
16:53.44genetikheh.. ok
16:53.48genetikthat's what i was going to report
16:53.58ckknightSherwin's working on it
16:54.03ckknighthe's our html guy
16:54.04genetikcool
16:54.05AntiarcARRRRGH.
16:54.09AntiarcIE6 CAN DIE IN A FIRE
16:54.13Antiarc(and IE8 too while it's at it)
16:54.14ckknightAntiarc: truth
16:54.18SarozFF
16:54.23StanzillaIe8 is beta
16:54.25nevcairielAntiarc: use 7 :P
16:54.26AntiarcYeah, I'm a web developer, Saroz
16:54.28Stanzillaand IE6 is not a web browser
16:54.44nevcairielbut seriously, i would stop caring about IE6
16:54.47CIA-4103apoco * r73602 10Nurfed_AutoBarHook/ (Nurfed_AutoBarHook.lua Nurfed_AutoBarHook.toc): Nurfed_AutoBarHook: Toc bump & Code Cleanup to create a lot less garbage. (Only works with old versions of AutoBar)
16:54.47AntiarcI'm having to get my CSS and JS working in IE6, 7, 8, FF2, FF3, Opera 9, and Safari
16:54.50CIA-4103schelli * r73603 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/ (4 files): FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua : added many things rewrote many things, almost complete revamp, works with all languages now
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16:54.53AntiarcAbout 6% of my traffic is still IE6.
16:54.58AntiarcIt's retardified.
16:55.04Stanzillawhat about Opera 9.5? :P
16:55.25AntiarcAlso, IE8 is retarded and doesn't support opacity via CSS.
16:55.31Antiarc:V :V :V :V :V
16:55.50Balstor~last Elsia
16:55.51genetikthe amount of government agencies that still use old operating systems/browsers is sick
16:56.06Balstor~seen Elsia
16:56.08purlelsia <i=elsiarow@p57A2731D.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 53m 17s ago, saying: 'heya'.
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16:56.37CIA-4103apoco * r73604 10Nurfed_ButtonFacade/ (. Nurfed_ButtonFacade.lua Nurfed_ButtonFacade.toc): Nurfed_ButtonFacade: Initial Commit
16:56.45nevcairielAntiarc: ever had to design a HTML Newsletter with support for Outlook 2007?
16:56.50nevcairielAntiarc: then you know whats pain
16:57.03Apoconevcairiel I can only imagine how bad that is since they changed the parsing engine in it
16:57.04Stanzillauh, I had to do that
16:57.05AntiarcHTML newsletters are a bad idea in general, IMO :P
16:57.06Apocowhich was a horrid idea
16:57.10Stanzillathat so sucked, nevcairiel
16:57.11AntiarcPDF or plain text or gtfo!
16:57.15KaaosaA warrior in this AV just asked me for Divine Spirit :<
16:57.39Dashkallol, seems I fail at math.  finally got be.imba to audit me... oops, seems I managed to over defense :p
16:57.40nevcairielpdf newsletters? meh, that sucks
16:57.43StanzillaApoco: yeah, Outlook uses Word's parsing engine instead of IE's -.-
16:57.51Apocoyeah that started in 07
16:57.52Apoco")
16:57.54nevcairielI just want one logo in the corner and some bold text
16:57.55Stanzillayes
16:57.56nevcairielbut anyway
16:58.02Apoco:(*
16:58.08nevcairielO2k7 does not support images as backgrounds
16:58.10nevcairielat all
16:58.17nevcairielthat was the most annoying thing ever
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16:58.22Apocoare you serious?
16:58.33nevcairielyea
16:58.38nevcairielgoogle for outlook 2007 html restrictions
16:58.40nevcairielor something
16:58.45nevcairielits stupified
16:58.58Apoco;(
16:59.05Fisker-outlook sucks
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17:00.24vithosi hate how blurry the minimap arrows are when you use the lower texture resolution setting
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17:01.01nevcairielSaroz: no more oRA ressurect event support? why? :(
17:01.07vithosthink it would be possible to pull the higher resolution texture out of the blp, and rename it to the lower one, and just leave it in the Data\ directory or something?
17:01.17Saroznevcairiel, LibResComm
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17:01.29vithosi mean mpq
17:01.34nevcairielSaroz: i already have oRA, and running that library would be redundant
17:01.40CIA-4103rabbit * r73605 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix possible stack overflow.
17:01.44Zhinjiois there an IE hotkey for "force full refresh" like in FF?
17:01.50Saroznevcairiel, I suspect oRA2 will switch to the lib aswell
17:02.08nevcairielZhinjio: i would've guessed ctrl-f5 as well
17:02.13Saroznevcairiel, in any case, the lib is better than oRA2, had some problems with it
17:02.16NeoTronThere is an addon for ClosetGnome to swap gear set when you encounter a boss right?
17:02.32profalbertNeoTron: ClosetGnome_BigWigs?
17:02.33AckisI wished blizz would clean up config.wtf when they change cvars
17:02.34Zhinjiothat works. thanks.
17:02.41nevcairielSaroz: never had a problem with it
17:02.55NeoTronprofalbert: that might be it yes. I have a trash set and it'd be handy to have it swap to my normal set for bosses
17:03.00NeoTrontrash set has less spell hit
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17:04.32ZhinjioOff topic css IE bullshit
17:04.34Zhinjiohttp://geo.trippy.org/testing.html
17:04.48ZhinjioI'd like that to look the same in IE and FF if anyone has any ideas I'm all ears
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17:06.05NeoTronZhinjio: render it in one browser, take a screenshot, and display an image
17:06.09Antiarchahah
17:06.21NeoTronuse image maps for links!
17:06.31Zhinjiocries real tears.
17:06.32Fisker-i lol'd
17:06.38ZhinjioI fucking hate IE
17:06.45Fisker-it's Fx btw
17:07.04Zhinjiowhat is?
17:07.06Fisker-Firefox
17:07.16Dashkalmmm, FF
17:07.29Zhinjiowell, you're certainly allowed to live in whatever deluded little world you want to.
17:07.30Fisker-Fx
17:07.34ZhinjioI won't deny you that right.
17:07.35hydrogenwell, if it makes you feel better
17:07.39hydrogenit looks the same in opera and konqueror
17:07.43Fisker-Zhinjio it's not deluded
17:07.49Fisker-as it's the official abbreviation
17:07.55Fisker-so actually you're the one being deluded
17:08.04Zhinjioby definition, one of us is right.
17:08.10hydrogenwait wait wait
17:08.12hydrogendo you mean to tell me
17:08.18hydrogenthat Firefox can have two abbreviations???
17:08.23KaaosaNo
17:08.30Zhinjioand quite frankly, I don't care.
17:08.30hydrogen.;
17:08.31PolarinaWrath of the Lick King date is to be announced at October 10th, 2008.
17:08.33hydrogenokay, good
17:08.35hydrogenI was worried
17:08.53Zhinjiohydrogen: I don't have either of those browsers installed... do all the borders look right?
17:08.57Fisker-nah Polarina
17:09.00Fisker-Diablo 3 announced
17:09.03Fisker-wotlk nearing release
17:09.07PolarinaFisker-: http://www.blizzard.co.uk/press/080512.shtml
17:09.11hydrogenZhinjio: the top left corner shows over the text
17:09.14hydrogenbut other than that
17:09.24Zhinjioyeah, thats a padding issue. not worried about that.
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17:13.07Dashkalheh, I can't find anything on the mozilla site stating that Firefox is Fx.  Either that got buried deep or they gave up pushing Fx...  About all I found was a wikipedia article and a number of discussions in forums, none of which had any links back to the official site
17:14.32CIA-4103ackis * r73606 10AltTabber/AltTabber.lua:
17:14.32CIA-41AltTabber:
17:14.33CIA-41- Add some checking for background sounds.
17:14.43ZhinjioI don't get it. IE is ignoring the height attribute, and forcing it to be like 3 picels taller than it should be.
17:14.46GnarfozAckis: what's it do?
17:15.02Zhinjioand its ignoring the left/right positioning on an absolute positioned element as well.
17:15.07GnarfozAckis: nm, I scrolled up
17:15.12Ackislol
17:15.48AckisI can see it growing a bit but right now it serves me right lol
17:16.15PolarinaThe one who gets the humour gets a cookie: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6417253832&sid=1
17:17.36CIA-4103saroz * r73607 10LibResComm-1.0/LibResComm-1.0.lua:
17:17.36CIA-41LibResComm-1.0:
17:17.36CIA-41- Typos are bad
17:18.00Dashkalwoot, the CMs are back
17:20.05CIA-4103Allara * r73608 10HitsMode/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
17:20.05CIA-41HitsMode:
17:20.05CIA-41- Split "other" unit name coloring by reaction
17:22.03Dashkalchecks post histories
17:22.11Dashkalno, they haven't been gone, wowblues just stopped picking them up...
17:22.24Dashkalwtb better blue tracker
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17:30.14Fisker-THIS WAS LESS FUN THAN PREVIOUSLY IMPLIED
17:31.33NeoTronsometimes I'm taking stuff on my pally and Ir ealize I have the wrong mob targeted
17:31.40NeoTronand all the threat I generate is passive
17:31.43NeoTronand I still hold aggro
17:33.27NivFreakyea
17:33.30NivFreakit's so stupid ezmode
17:33.44NeoTronmind you
17:33.49NivFreakI often get freaked out that I'm not generating threat on my prot pally
17:34.01NivFreakbecause I'm hitting 3 buttons every 10 seconds
17:34.07NeoTronmind you the dps wasn't exactly stellar
17:34.11NivFreakas compared to my prot warrior main
17:34.12Fisker-nevcairiel i suck
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17:34.26nevcairielFisker- but not very well
17:34.36Chompersoh my :o
17:34.39Fisker-i can't even make buttonfacade support for pt3bar!
17:34.48Fisker-candy with cherries on top if you can nevcairiel :(
17:36.09Zhinjioomg, I got it to work.
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17:40.35NivFreakPolarina: where's that from?
17:40.49Zhinjiohydrogen: can you check if its still ok in opera/konq. please?
17:40.55Fisker-any lightweight reptracker that just tracks rep, and can output it and calculate time-to-rep?
17:41.04hydrogenonly if you give me the link again, Zhinjio
17:41.09Zhinjiosure'
17:41.14Zhinjiohttp://geo.trippy.org/testing.html
17:42.04Fisker-fixed the padding i see
17:42.18Fisker-well almost
17:42.27Zhinjioyeah. its just a test page anyway. moving it over tot he forums is going to be all different padding and content anyway
17:42.31hydrogenopera has more trouble with it than konq
17:42.46Zhinjiodefine "trouble"?
17:42.49hydrogenwell, just the padding
17:42.50hydrogennvm
17:42.55hydrogenthe troujbles the same if I make the windows the same size
17:42.56hydrogen:)
17:43.18nevcairielSaroz: so i installed LibResComm and its broken already, nice :P
17:43.56Sarozidd
17:43.58Sarozfubar!
17:43.59SarozI fixed it
17:44.41Fisker-cuddles nevcairiel :(
17:45.53Pollekethe noob is here. Thanks for spotting it Saroz
17:49.17Chomperswould using that pally power griefing hack to make people update their addons be..uh...unethical?
17:49.45Chompersnot that i'd ever do such a thing
17:50.15Sarozwhat hack
17:50.17nevcairielwe all thought about that
17:50.36Chompersyou can crash people using pally power or old versions of zomg
17:50.43Sarozuhh
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17:52.52Fisker-i have bananas nevcairiel
17:52.53Zeksieyeh. the fix is confirmed to work btw
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17:53.47Zeksiewhat i do wanna know is, why chatthrottlelib allows the d/c.
17:54.57CIA-4103Chorizotarian * r73609 10Undercut/Undercut.toc:
17:54.57CIA-41Undercut:
17:54.57CIA-41- Fix broken X-RelSite links
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17:57.28Fisker-Zeksie you're so 1337
17:57.35Fisker-and you love pt3bar and buttonfacade!
17:57.44CIA-4103Vig * r73610 10AssignAssist/Raid.lua:
17:57.44CIA-41AssignAssist:
17:57.44CIA-41- typo
17:57.55Fisker-i'm not suggesting that you should make some kind of module to add buttonfacade support to pt3bar, just forcing you to it
17:59.34Chompershe'll do horrible things to you if you don't
18:00.05Fisker-it's the reason why nymbia is gone
18:00.15Fisker-~seen nymbia
18:00.15purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 35d 18h 2m 17s ago, saying: 'Funkeh`: you better be checking over every line that gets committed'.
18:03.12nevcairielHm the new Serenity skin for BF is sexeh
18:03.15nevcairiel<3
18:03.42Fisker-dies
18:03.49Fisker-ZOMG PLX mr. nevcairiel
18:03.50Fisker-:D
18:04.12nevcairieli actually managed to have time for raiding today
18:04.21nevcairielno coding for addons that i dont even use
18:04.28Fisker-:(
18:04.33Fisker-hey nevcairiel
18:04.35Fisker-i know this cool addon
18:04.37Fisker-PT3Bar
18:04.39Fisker-better than autobar!
18:04.53nevcairielI have all my potions in a actionbar
18:04.53Chomperslies
18:04.57nevcairielwhy would i need that?
18:05.03Fisker-i dunno
18:05.08Fisker-i'm not good at this
18:05.15Fisker-also brb maintank about to die
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18:07.39Fisker-man i hate hyjal
18:07.47Fisker-WTB "So you're exalted?"-option
18:07.53Fisker-skips all trash ;_;
18:09.24Chomperswe killed archi Fisker-
18:09.29Chompersyou didnt say anything :<
18:11.40Fisker-doing waves
18:11.44Fisker-garg wave now :D
18:11.51Fisker-fun for the whole family
18:12.02Antiarc<PROTECTED>
18:12.06Antiarc<PROTECTED>
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18:13.09Fisker-:O?
18:14.05vhaarrIs the PTR working for anyone else?
18:14.20NivFreakit's still up?
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18:14.41vhaarrI can log in but it's stuck at retrieving character list
18:14.49NivFreakpatch is tomorrow
18:14.53NivFreakso I'm a bit shocked
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18:18.58Cheadsofficial it's tomorrow?
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18:19.29EldreddEveryone is reporting that it is going to be tomorrow but I haven't seen an official post about it yet.
18:20.18chiperlooks like blizzard publshed the final patch file to mirror sites... so I'm guessing its legit
18:21.47NivFreakyea, the patch is up
18:22.12NivFreakthey nerfed my favorite daily
18:22.13NivFreak=(
18:22.19NivFreakchiper: so trinity bars is sorta meh
18:22.24NivFreakchiper: I love the flexibility
18:22.26NivFreakbut it's buggy
18:22.31NivFreakand seems to be a performance hog
18:23.10chiper*shrug*  havent had any performance issues from TB.  usually its omen and recount that sap me
18:23.22NivFreakyea, I uninstalled recount last night
18:23.37NivFreakit was killing me in hyjal
18:23.47NivFreakhyjal seems to test all my mods for me
18:24.00stew_ano pre-download for this patch yet?
18:24.02NivFreakcooldown buttons got the axe too
18:24.06NivFreakwhich is a shame, I really liked it
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18:27.34Fisker-i pooped your pants Chompers
18:28.00[SW]Dodgehttp://dodgex.servegame.com/wtface.jpg <- yea ~.~
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18:29.27nevcairiel[SW]Dodge: thats recount blaming memory on Ace3
18:29.36vhaarrViolation uses about 220kb memory in a full raid for me
18:29.58vithosi miss assessment :(
18:30.35[SW]Dodgeah ok..
18:30.54[SW]Dodgefor some reason i permanently go down to 2 fps :(
18:31.00nappy-a parrot output for proximo would be great ;>
18:31.28vithosdoesn't proximo use LibSink?
18:31.41NeoTronvhaarr: does violation provide per-fight data?
18:31.58vhaarrNeoTron: you can reset it whenever you want
18:32.12vhaarrvithos: no
18:32.16NeoTronvhaarr: so that's no >:-) (mind you not complaining, just comparing)
18:32.43vhaarrNeoTron: you can just assume "no" to any question regarding if addons I've worked on support various things
18:33.18NeoTronspeaking of "killing me", has anyone discovered why there's a massive slowdown on Illidan when he does his fire AoE? It also seems to happen in karazhan aoe packs etc
18:33.40vhaarrI remember someone else complaining about that
18:33.41NeoTronwas tanking in Kara and got frequent hickup during AoE tanking, which is always fun
18:34.00NeoTronit's a pretty common isuse. I figure it's not unlikely to be caused by Threat
18:34.20NeoTronsince it's an addon everyone has installed
18:34.24vithosyeah
18:34.42vhaarrOmen is pretty heavy, someone should write a usable replacement for it
18:34.47Ozguli`mm, I couldn't do a thing when omen was loaded
18:34.55Ozguli`but it got fixed as soon as I disabled it
18:35.05NeoTronOzguli`: Omen, or threat?
18:35.11Ozguli`omen in this case
18:35.18NeoTrondid you keep threat running?
18:35.24[SW]Dodgenevcairiel: are you sure that it is recount wasting the ace3 memory? it is the first time that ace3 is in top3 memory using addons. and recount itself got 9mb too
18:35.25Ozguli`no idea about that
18:35.36nevcairiel[SW]Dodge: yes pretty sure
18:36.02[SW]Dodgehm but why today and not the other times?
18:36.34UhuruHi, is this normal that chronometer don't work with improved scorch ? (fire mage talent)
18:38.24chipermy recount slowdown goes away when I hide it, and omen is much kinder on AoE mode
18:38.42chiperso I just chalked it up to graphical processing
18:40.38Snagop3lim: ping
18:42.46charonchiper: AoE mode compared to what? single target?
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18:46.07chiperyeah
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18:51.07ChompersFisker-: that's not very nic
18:51.08Chomperse
18:51.14ravagernluhuru : classtimer > chronometer :P
18:52.17Cheadscan you get classtimer to get some timers to 'stick' even when changing targets... ie. with fear, banish, sheep etc.?
18:57.28_ranedoes deadly boss mods have a config window or something
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18:58.23hydrogendbm isn't ace
18:58.28_ranei know
18:58.39hydrogenuse bigwigs and like it
18:58.47_ranehmm, i might
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19:00.22_ranedoes it show brutallus burns?
19:01.12p3limSnago: pong
19:01.24hydrogenlikely
19:01.38p3limSnago: whats up?
19:01.40Fisker-sure it is Chompers
19:01.42Fisker-ARCHIMONDE TIEMS
19:01.47Chompers:o
19:01.53Chomperswe're trying bloodboil
19:01.58Chompersoh what fun that'll be
19:02.18Fisker-yeah
19:05.59Halcyon_moo
19:07.59DashkalWhat's wrong with DBM?  If you use the extended feature set it's nice and handy.  Consistent UI ftw.
19:08.25Funkeh`lol
19:08.31Funkeh`consistent that's a good one
19:08.31Snagop3lim: Your oUF layout is only using half the awesomeness of oUF_PowerSpark
19:08.49SnagoIt's not only for energy users :)
19:08.50p3limSnago: oh
19:09.01DashkalIf it isn't consistent with itself, nevermind what I just said :p  (I use BigWigs -- I have no need for the extended features)
19:09.03Lyn_remember the mana users, young padawan @ p3lim
19:09.04p3limI know that, its been changed just not uploaded
19:09.26p3limIve been too drunk partying lately, no time for geeking
19:09.28*** join/#wowace Corgan (n=Corgan@udp138899uds.hawaiiantel.net)
19:09.38Funkeh`yeah right
19:09.46Snagohehe, just wanted you to know that :)
19:09.47Lyn_:D
19:09.57p3limIf you live in norway you might understand why too :p
19:10.26charoncelebrating the first direct sunlight this year?
19:10.30charonhides
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19:10.56Funkeh`lol
19:11.09Lyn_haha
19:11.19hasteonly reason to be drunk in norway the last week was venetian snares gigg in oslo last wednesday
19:11.52Snago17 of may coming up.. You've started partying already?
19:11.59Funkeh`there's never a reason to get drunk
19:12.06Funkeh`but theres always reason to drink
19:12.12haste<PROTECTED>
19:12.26Funkeh`the fuck is that arrow
19:12.32haste:D
19:12.37p3limtheres this thing called Russ in norway
19:13.09DashkalUnicode 2191.  Gnome character map ftw :p
19:13.10p3limits the celebration of the last year on college which mostly is just a 17-day long party
19:13.17p3limwhich im experiencing now
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19:13.39Dashkal↝
19:13.45hasteI can't see that one :(
19:13.52Lyn_same here
19:13.52Lyn_:X
19:13.54hasteguess terminus fails
19:14.04hastewobbly arrow is wobbly
19:14.05Funkeh`I see it
19:14.07DashkalSquigly right/up airrow
19:14.09p3limhm i can see it too
19:14.09Funkeh`looks like a
19:14.13Funkeh`penis
19:14.15Funkeh`or something
19:14.21Funkeh`upside down
19:14.23DashkalNah, that's this one: ⇑
19:14.29p3limxchat + winxp here
19:14.35Funkeh`that looks like a hut
19:14.45Dashkal⇯ ?
19:14.50Funkeh`thats a square
19:14.53Fisker-what's the goldlimit btw?
19:14.57p3limlots
19:15.07Fisker-your mother
19:15.09charonroughly 2**32 copper
19:15.14charoner, 2**31
19:15.15charoniirc
19:15.18haste2^32-1 :3 ?
19:15.33charonnot precisely, i think -2 or -3. i thought it quite funny when i saw the screenshot
19:15.39DashkalI think it's 31.  I remember the first digit being a 2 in the screenshots
19:15.46Funkeh`lua> print(2^32-1)
19:15.47lua_botFunkeh`: 4294967295
19:15.57hasteyou have signed/unsigned also
19:16.06charonlua> 2^31 / 10000
19:16.06lua_botcharon: 214748.3648
19:16.12Fisker-man
19:16.20Fisker-i'm pratically being shoved pala items up my ass
19:16.23Fisker-i don't even want them ;_;
19:17.13p3limhttp://www.plattenkiste.org/wow/maxgold.jpg
19:17.26p3lim214748g36s46c
19:17.47Fisker-dunno if blizzard will suspect 200k rolling into my mailbox one day? :D
19:17.48NeoTroncharon: man I'm 1/10th there!
19:19.16Dashkallua> 2**31
19:19.17lua_botDashkal: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '2'
19:19.23Dashkalmeh, what's lua for exp?
19:19.34Lyn_I don't like ZA ... never saw hexlord and zuljin ... and also not the second chest. meh..
19:19.43stew_alua> a=1; a++; print(a)
19:19.43lua_botstew_a: luabot:1: '=' expected near '+'
19:19.52ZynderpsI've seen Hexlord ... but never ever dead
19:20.00stew_ameh, wtb ++/+= syntax
19:20.03Dashkallua> math.pow(2,31)
19:20.03lua_botDashkal: 2147483648
19:20.06Lyn_:<
19:20.09Dashkal-2
19:20.10nevcairielDashkal: 2^31
19:20.11Lyn_i dont like trolls
19:20.16Lyn_*forest trolls
19:20.22charonNeoTron: then just hope they won't patch it to 64bit and deflate gold value more than one decimal place ;)
19:21.26NeoTronI've seen Hexlord... I've seen Hexlord drop my trinket. 3 times. I don't have my trinket from Hexlord.
19:21.29NeoTronthe world is evil.
19:22.17Lyn_i dont have my gnome trinket :<
19:22.24Lyn_i want enslaved gnomes!1
19:22.51p3limi has enslaved gnomes! :D
19:23.02p3limon a boomkin
19:23.03CIA-4103starlon * r73611 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Add CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_* events
19:23.05Lyn_u r evil!
19:23.10_chiper_we discovered that theres a gnome baby in the shatt orphanage
19:23.14p3limalso have the servants trinket
19:23.16Lyn_boomkin with treants and gnomes
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19:23.26p3limso, 9 dummies runnig around hitting shit
19:23.28p3limfun in pvp :)
19:23.33Lyn__chiper_, omfg.. how does it look? like a flew?
19:23.40hastesomeone buy me an amplifier
19:23.44_chiper_flew?
19:23.46Lyn_*flea
19:23.49Lyn_typo
19:23.51_chiper_heh
19:24.12_chiper_theres babies for all the races there.  little cribs with heads
19:24.16NeoTron'
19:25.07Lyn_but gnomes must be a whole head with just arms and so
19:25.12NeoTronso I'm now at 15.2k HP self buffed
19:25.19NeoTronon my warlock (with imp) if I stack stamina
19:25.21Lyn_mostly walking heads
19:26.03Lyn_neotron, gnome? :O
19:26.07CIA-4103apoco * r73612 10PT3Bar_ButtonFacade/ (. PT3Bar_ButtonFacade.lua PT3Bar_ButtonFacade.toc): PT3Bar_ButtonFacade: -- Initial Commit
19:26.18Apoco<3 ButtonFacade
19:26.25NeoTronLyn_: human
19:26.28Lyn_good
19:28.06Snagop3lim: You have a druid?
19:28.14p3limyea
19:28.26Apocodoes anyone develop PT3Bar anymore?
19:28.37p3limtwo rogues, a druid and a shaman
19:28.43p3limatleast those who are 70
19:28.45Fisker-Apoco you are a GOD
19:28.51ApocoWhy? lol
19:28.52Fisker-not really Apoco :(
19:28.56Lyn_shaman power!
19:28.58Fisker-nymbia is not here
19:29.01Apocokk
19:29.02Fisker-atleast not as much as he used to
19:29.13ApocoI think I may convert it over to Ace3
19:29.19Snagop3lim: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8883-oUF_PowerSpark.html#comments see the "wtb druid testing" comment :)
19:29.24Pkekyo|blargh
19:29.24Pkekyo|skallebank
19:29.25p3limshamans sucks
19:29.28p3lim:<
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19:29.31p3limill see
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19:30.27AntiarcThis is amazing - http://hotruby.accelart.jp/ - a ruby VM written in Javascript.
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19:30.47Fisker-well as far as i recall he did say that he didn't mind other committing to it
19:31.26Lyn_p3lim, no!
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19:32.09p3limLyn_: atleast i think so
19:32.17hasteAntiarc: I have no words
19:32.19p3limLyn_: spec are you?
19:32.29AntiarcI'm really tempted to play with it
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19:32.37Lyn_currently enhancement. normally elemental
19:32.41AntiarcBecause the ability to script my client-side browser with ruby would be -hot-
19:33.55p3limok ive been enhance since day 1
19:33.58hasteand possibly horribly slow
19:34.06p3limboring when you raid like 5 days a week
19:34.14Apocowould be be -hot- Antiarc
19:34.42p3limSnago: Worked fine, the 2sec mana timer is off until the first tick hits in tho
19:34.58AntiarcHotRuby is apparently really fast, but that's likely because it's not really as full-featured as a proper ruby VM is
19:35.16ckknightAntiarc: well, you could with Silverlight, I suppose
19:35.30AntiarcSilverlight doesn't have market penetration yet, I'm afraid
19:35.31Apocoembeds.xml over toc libs right?
19:35.34AntiarcThough it's an interesting technology
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19:36.25ckknightAntiarc: yea
19:36.46p3limSnago: else than that it works fine, cant test moonkin form right now as im specced feral
19:37.35NeoTronthere's something seriously off when healing items are better or equivalent to dps items
19:37.46NeoTronliek the healing and dps neck from ZA, the healing cloak from Illidan etc
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19:40.43stew_aWTB guild who listens to sense when fighting VR
19:42.25CIA-4103starlon * r73613 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.toc: CombatAlarm: Change X-Category to Raid
19:42.25ApocoVoidreaver is serious business
19:42.29ApocoI always die in orbs :(
19:42.35PolarinaIllidian is a piece of cake, compared to the size of the entire instance.
19:43.07Matrix110|heavy taiting issues here....
19:43.13Matrix110|gotta find out whats causing it
19:43.26stew_abest tactic on VR is have a hunter with Aspect of the Pack as orb fodder running circles around the platform right?
19:43.46[scott]o.O
19:44.00Psycho|WorkOr just, you know, move away from the gigantic, slow-moving, easily-dodgeable orbs.
19:44.39stew_aPsycho: not really, /lazypeople
19:44.40[scott]That's one of the few fights I like being melee on
19:45.26[scott]although archimonde is fun shit
19:45.29[scott]lol
19:45.41[scott]intercept ftw
19:46.46p3limshadowstep ftw :)
19:47.13Snagop3lim: yeah, that's a limitation I havn't found any way around..  It will always need one tick to sync :\
19:47.23Snagop3lim: thanks for testing for me :)
19:47.27p3limyw
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19:48.09CIA-4103ackis * r73614 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua:
19:48.09CIA-41TIRaid:
19:48.09CIA-41- Trash -> Zone Drop
19:48.50Lyn_what is TIRaid? oO
19:48.59Psycho|Work[scott], didn't they change archimonde so you couldn't intercept back after air burst?
19:49.08ramozyes
19:49.35vhaarrwhy did they do that?
19:49.40vhaarrwhat a stupid thing to do
19:49.43Chompersbloodboil is terrible
19:49.44CIA-4103funkydude * r73615 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist
19:49.51Chompersit looks like total chaos
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19:50.25Lyn_badboy is nice :o works like a charmn atm
19:50.55AeyanYeah
19:50.58Psycho|WorkChompers: It's pretty orderly if you're doing it right.
19:51.43Funkeh`Lyn_, thanks
19:51.55Lyn_np =)
19:54.33[scott]God Chatzilla's annoying
19:54.39Fisker-btw Funkeh`
19:54.50Fisker-seen that some spammers use {circle} now in com?
19:55.10Funkeh`Fisker-, yeah
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19:59.07Chompersthey're...learning...
19:59.51NivFreak<PROTECTED>
19:59.53NivFreakit cracks me up
20:00.06NivFreakusing the totem/logout bug to kill them all
20:00.17NivFreakthere was a stack of bodies last night
20:00.21Ozguli`I wonder if it's bannable
20:00.23*** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@pD955F102.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:00.33Ozguli`because if the totem crits it can kill players up to lvl 30 or so
20:00.35NivFreakit is, but who is going to report them for killing spammers!
20:00.50NivFreakthe spammers are clearly botting though
20:00.54NivFreakso the spot is predictable
20:00.55[scott]gasp the spammer might report
20:01.04[scott]Oh the irony
20:01.07NivFreakhaha
20:02.01Chompersa guy kept killing my bank alt
20:02.08Chompersso i got him banned for it :D
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20:03.10PrimerAnyone know what the {text} is for gold?
20:03.14Primerto make the gold icon
20:03.29NivFreak{circle}
20:03.35NivFreakwe call it nipple
20:03.36Primererr
20:03.36Primerno
20:03.39PrimerI mean gold
20:03.43NivFreakhrm?
20:03.47Primeras in, "This cost 30 {gold}
20:03.53Primer20 {silver}"
20:04.01NivFreakoh
20:04.03NivFreakis there one?
20:04.08PrimerI think I've seen it
20:04.16NivFreakI haven't, so no idea
20:04.32Funkeh`no, there isn't
20:04.41Funkeh`theres one texture for gold silver and bronze
20:04.47Funkeh`and you need texcoords
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20:13.13Apocowhat about obama spammers
20:13.19ApocoI've had 3 tells today about voting for him
20:13.26Apoco><
20:14.25elite3villol.
20:14.45elite3vilThere's one I haven't heard of yet.
20:15.21[scott]at least they're not spamming about Ru Paul
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20:17.59Apocohttp://www.imagefilez.com/out.php/i252377_obamawow.jpg
20:18.54Camcidoes nature enemy cast bar work now? or is there a simular addon? that shows the cooldown for other players in my raid, such as innervate, ss, cr and so...
20:19.08Camcithought NECB was gonna be updated but havent heard anything
20:19.23Apocothe guy that took it over has trashed it last I heard
20:19.45kergothbela has a beta out of the new version
20:19.47kergothno options in it yet though
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20:21.29CIA-4103apoco * r73616 10PT3Bar/ (PT3Bar.lua PT3Bar.toc embeds.xml):
20:21.29CIA-41PT3Bar:
20:21.29CIA-41- Embeds.xml, removed toc lib refs
20:21.29CIA-41- Added X/Y Offset Option (if both offsets are at 0, it does nothing different)
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20:22.53AeyanNivFreak: That totem thing sounds fun, how does it work?
20:23.02AeyanThe spammers always stand in the same place on my server
20:23.25stew_aput a nova totem, log out
20:23.41stew_anova totem becomes neutral as you log out, if it ticks before despawning anyone in range gets hit, flagged or not
20:23.50NivFreakAeyan: it's a macro, one sec
20:24.07Apoco<PROTECTED>
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20:24.17AeyanHaha, sweet.
20:24.19AeyanThanks
20:24.22NivFreakhrmm
20:24.32NivFreakthe one I had was much more complex
20:24.34NivFreakit's that simple?
20:24.41Apocoas far as I know yes
20:24.48Apocoit casts the totem, then camps you in 3.8 seconds
20:24.51Apocowhat else is there to do?
20:24.55Lyn_but if the killed lvl 1 report u you get a 3 hour ban
20:25.57Lyn_my english sucks today.. oh man
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20:27.25Fisker-<PROTECTED>
20:27.36Fisker-you didn't play enough old school mmo's wuss
20:27.40vhaarrand /in is provided by AceEvent-2.0
20:27.59NivFreakahh
20:28.01NivFreakthat's why
20:28.02vhaarrso if you don't have that the macro will be more complex
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20:29.18ckknightwhat would you all do if you lost your svn history but kept your HEAD revision? jw
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20:29.55ckknight:-P
20:30.02ckknightnot to say it's going to happen or anything
20:30.32vhaarrI'd hope you gave me some warning so I could copy the history first
20:30.36vhaarrwith svnsync or whatever
20:31.07Camcikergoth: same name?
20:31.08vhaarrif given that opportunity then I wouldn't mind if it was for a good reason
20:31.31nevcairielthats the command to run another macro from a macro?
20:32.03ckknighthere's the situation: due to wowace's fucked up single-repository structure, getting the history of a single project complicates things immensely, if you wanted to switch to a multi-repository structure (i.e. one project per repository). It'd be far easier to do an import of the HEAD, but you'd sadly lose history
20:32.54vhaarrbut why would you switch?
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20:33.13kergothCamci:  ?
20:33.43CamciName of the beta for NECB
20:33.50Camcisame name or he changed it?
20:33.55ckknightvhaarr: because having your own repository for a single project is nice
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20:34.13KaeltenAcidity in Cloud Experiment?
20:34.38vhaarrmaybe to some people, I like how it is now
20:34.47vhaarrKaelten: we were joking about the whole "Ace is not an acronym" thing earlire
20:34.52vhaarrearlier*
20:34.56Kaeltenlol
20:35.06Kaeltenwhats funny is that it originally was (as per Turan)
20:35.21vhaarrPolarina was nice enough to point out to me that it's, in fact, NOT an acronym
20:35.31vhaarrhehe
20:35.34Kaeltenof all things it was recursive acronym too
20:35.35ckknightACE Coding Environment
20:35.40Kaeltenyep
20:35.45ckknight(bullshit if you ask me)
20:35.46AeyanCamci: Natur CombatTimers
20:35.49Aeyanhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6616-NaturCombatTimers.html
20:35.53ckknightI hate recursive acronyms
20:35.58vhaarrckknight: I dare you to join #php and say that
20:35.59ckknightdamn Stallman.
20:36.00Kaeltenckknight: I'm inclined to agree thus why I let it drop.
20:36.01vhaarr:P
20:36.05Nandinione project per repository would probably better suit some authors (especially those who would prefer to exert some level of control over their own projects)
20:36.30ckknightNandini: there's also speed issues involved and other benefits
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20:36.37vhaarrnonsense
20:36.47Nandinibut just from hearing ppl around here talk, i think most authors are content with the current ace svn
20:37.14vhaarrmoving away from the current model is time better spent elsewhere
20:37.31Nandinihow much more administrative overhead would be required to maintain hundreds of repositories?
20:37.33CamciTHanks Aeyan
20:37.39AeyanSure
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20:37.54Nandini(aside from the obvious initial work in setting them up the first time)
20:38.08ckknightNandini: less overhead, seeing as it's set up already. Note: any change to the new system would be entirely voluntary
20:38.25Kaeltenwell the context Nandini is that i'd like to allow people to import their repo history onto curseforge
20:38.41Nandinibasically, authors could request a new repository for their existing or new projects?
20:38.56ckknightNandini: that's the idea
20:39.18CIA-4103morgalm * r73617 10Incubator/Core.lua:
20:39.18CIA-41Incubator:
20:39.18CIA-41- added Astromancer to A'lar boss shutoff
20:40.32ckknightNandini: the idea's to allow people to import their wowace project onto curseforge, get a shiny new project with their repository imported.
20:40.42ckknight(allow, not force)
20:40.55Nandinii can see how that would be appealing to many authors
20:41.16Nandiniespecially authors who manage a large number of projects
20:41.23Camcithere is something wrong with decursive and Grid working togheter i think :p
20:41.24ckknightpoints at himself
20:41.46ckknightbut it's to be useful for people with only one project as well
20:42.05ckknightthe things that curseforge provides are just too nice to pass up (and I'm not just saying that)
20:42.13ckknightat least, in comparison to the alternatives
20:42.13Nandinifor authors managing or contributing infrequently to a single project, they don't miss out on that much by not moving
20:42.44nevcairielmoving will have one negative side
20:42.47Nandinii.e., "they won't know what they're missing"
20:42.52nevcairielless translations
20:43.02nevcairielwell might be positive too
20:43.04nevcairielbut anyway
20:43.09ckknightnevcairiel: true, but that's what the cloning system is for
20:43.12Nandininevcairiel: i was about to say, that's not always a negative thing
20:43.27Nandiniit would force translators to work more directly with authors
20:43.29Camciwhats curseforge or where do i check it out? ^^
20:43.31ckknightthe ticketing system is nicer than wowace's jira. I'll get to use git instead of dealing with svn (you can choose what repo type you want).
20:43.41nevcairielckknight: i should file a ticket for a translation system, i submit the strings i need, and translators can submit via web form :)
20:43.49ckknightCamci: #curseforge is the IRC channel. curseforge.com is the site. Currently in beta
20:43.56ckknightnevcairiel: actually that's on the books
20:43.58[scott]Haha who's the dork in my profile's pic?
20:44.01Camciwill check, thanks
20:44.03[scott]at curseforge
20:44.05ckknightnevcairiel: please file a ticket.
20:44.13ckknight[scott]: Jim-Bim?
20:44.18[scott]I guess
20:44.32Nandininevcairiel: a list of strings is nice, but sometimes more context is needed to produce a meaningful translation
20:44.52[scott]http://static.curseforge.net/images/temp-avatar.jpg
20:45.47nevcairielNandini: well not like the translators have that now, they have a lua file with the strings, and have to look up context in the addon, that would still be the case, kinda :)
20:45.49nevcairielckknight: will do after raid
20:46.33Nandini[scott]: whoever he is, he looks just about tipsy enough to consider doing something he wouldn't otherwise agree to
20:46.41[scott]Hmm I'm on Atlasloot Enhanced and Omen's projects and something else o.O
20:47.00nevcairiel[scott]: the project place is just a placeholder :P
20:47.05[scott]ok
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20:49.00Chomperstime for 10 healers on bloodboil, see how it goes now
20:49.31[scott]should be fine. we've done it with 7
20:50.12nevcairielwe use 8 generally
20:50.15nevcairielor 9 sometimes
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20:51.20Fisker-hahahaha
20:51.28Fisker-cataclysm's edge dropped
20:51.33Fisker-and our prot/ret pally needs it
20:51.38[scott]lol
20:51.40Fisker-but he just got hacked last week
20:51.40Fisker-:D
20:52.08[scott]our blood frenzy warrior would kill him a pally
20:52.13Balstortake 5 healers and 15 flask of petrification on bloodboil
20:52.22[scott]he's been hoping for that to drop for ages
20:53.01elite3vilI've got one, and I'm usually holy/prot
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20:53.48Primerrecount _still_ doesn't show deaths
20:53.52Primerafter several updates
20:54.22hasteis the unit_death event fixed yet tho'?
20:55.07Sarozno
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20:56.25NandiniPrimer: blame blizzard, they broke it in 2.4.0 and it has taken them this long to fix it (should be fixed when patch 2.4.2 comes out tomorrow)
20:56.35Funkeh`Primer, It's been how many weeks since 2.4? You're telling me in all this time you haven't heard that it's a blizz bug?
20:56.41Primernope
20:56.56Primersorry for my unfounded outburst
20:56.56Chompersfail
20:56.59Chomperstime for 11 healers
20:57.07Diao2.4.2 is coming out tomorrow?
20:57.23Nandinimost likely, some players are getting the patch on the background downloader now
20:57.35RaydenUniso wrath will allow for death knights to start at 55
20:57.38RaydenUniwhat about other classes?
20:57.47ravagernl<PROTECTED>
20:57.48ravagernl/join #gnomies
20:57.49Nandiniall others start at 1 :P
20:57.51ravagernldoh xD
20:58.10Nandinithis way, they don't have to tune abilities for DKs at lower levels, which saves them a TON of time when introducing a new class
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20:59.37ChompersFisker-: give me the sword
20:59.42Chompersi want it RIGHT NOW
20:59.47RaydenUniyeah
20:59.56UhuruHi, is Bhattu here ?
21:00.00RaydenUnibut i want a new character to raid with, i don't want to do the 1-60
21:00.01RaydenUniit sucks
21:00.07Uhuru!seen Bhattu
21:00.14RaydenUnileveling is a different game than end game :(
21:00.24NeoTronthey should allow you to shortcut the leveling if you have a max level characater already
21:00.51Nandiniwhy can't you raid with a death knight RaydenUni?
21:01.15RaydenUniwrath isn't out yet?
21:01.16NeoTronNandini: because he'dhave to compete with the 47 other deathknights?
21:01.22RaydenUniand that
21:01.34Uhurusomeone know an add on to track the improved scorch debuff timer ? chronometer don't work for this
21:01.35RaydenUnii want to do some raiding with some professors who are on anothe rserver
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21:01.40RaydenUnibut that means a few weeks of leveling
21:01.54Nandinipaid character transfer?
21:01.58RaydenUnii only have 1 70
21:02.01RaydenUniand a 64
21:02.05RaydenUnithe next is 29
21:02.05RaydenUni:P
21:02.08Nandiniblizzard isn't going to give you a free shortcut to something they could make you pay money for :P
21:02.36RaydenUniyeah but i might just stop playing cause i have to level before i can raid
21:02.56RaydenUni55 is a weird starting place
21:02.59RaydenUni58 makes more sense
21:03.01Nandiniapparently, not enough people actually follow through with that threat for it to be a serious concern for blizzard
21:03.02RaydenUnijust start in outlands
21:03.14RaydenUnijust think of the 1-80 grind
21:03.16RaydenUnithat is going to suck
21:03.20Nandini55 is important because it gives death knights 3 levels to learn about their lore, their basic abilities, etc.
21:03.31RaydenUniyou gotta be hardcore to level a character for lvl 80 raiding
21:03.45Nandini55 to 58 for death knights is an experience kind of like 1-10 for other classes, it sounds like
21:03.47RaydenUniare they making new zones for the death knights to level 55-60?
21:03.54EvilJohnno
21:03.56RaydenUnicause where is the lore going to go?
21:03.57renchapRaydenUni: thats why i am finishing leveling my 3 alts that are not 70
21:03.58Nandiniyes, there are new areas in EPL where they quest
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21:04.25renchapwhen i will have 6 lvl 70, i will be ready for Wotlk :)
21:04.28RaydenUnii should go ahead and read the DK stuff
21:04.35RaydenUniso much low level crap to go through
21:04.52EvilJohnI thought they were just getitng a couple of intro quests, they're doing a big new zone?
21:04.58RaydenUnii can't say that i'd want 1-60 to go any faster...
21:05.05RaydenUnithe pacing is pretty good right now
21:05.11Nandininot a new zone, but new areas within EPL for 55-58 it sounds like
21:05.13RaydenUnii just don't want to do it right now
21:05.21RaydenUnino one does EPL right now anyways
21:05.29genetikyeah, there's a big chunk of land just north of noxxious glade
21:05.30DashkalCan someone ballpark what 35 agi to 2h is worth?  (I know economies vary, but I'm trying to get a general idea)
21:05.39ckknightNandini: both Horde and Ally?
21:05.52renchapeast of tyr's hand
21:06.08renchapthere will be the start zone for DKs
21:06.12Nandinickknight: none of the interviews i read made a distinction, i'm sure it will be crazy on pvp servers unless they find a way to deal with that
21:06.32Nandiniperhaps the new areas will be sanctuary areas
21:06.36ckknightmight make it sanctuary, ho knows
21:06.38genetikhttp://mapwow.com/?lng2=86.3525390625&lat2=80.17308990456209&zoom=7
21:06.39ckknightwho*
21:06.45genetikthat's where i'm guessing if it's in EPL
21:06.53NeoTronit sounded to me that the new areas would be solely for DK's
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21:07.10NeoTronalthough the whole pvp aspect I dunno about
21:07.23RaydenUniwhy will it be a pvp problem?
21:07.32NandiniNeoTron: it makes sense that they will be behind a portal, like the new content in TBC was
21:07.45Nandiniperhaps that portal will only allow DKs to pass through
21:07.46ckknightthat'd be quite possible.
21:07.54NeoTronRaydenUni: horde and alliance DK's in the same area
21:07.54genetikor portal only
21:08.01genetikteleport, rather
21:08.01NeoTronof course it might be a non-pvp area
21:08.01RaydenUniso?
21:08.06Nandiniwho knows, maybe it will be entirely instanced, they have plenty of options
21:08.06RaydenUnino different than Hellfire
21:08.14NeoTronand hellfire was an issue
21:08.17NeoTron:)
21:08.29RaydenUnihmm, i guess
21:08.33PolarinaI hope they do NOT put a portal to Dalaran in Shattrath City.
21:08.35RaydenUninow Isle is a problem
21:08.39RaydenUnithey didn't seem to learn
21:08.46RaydenUniwhy Polarina ?
21:08.47NeoTronone of the reasons I took forever to get my shaman past hellfire-levels (only pvp char at the time, now on a pve server) was because it sucked so bad
21:08.52Nandiniperhaps levels 55-58 for a death knight will take place in an entirely instanced area, that would be kinda neat
21:09.00PolarinaRaydenUni: It'll ruin the fun of travelling.
21:09.02renchapPolarina: i hope they will make a Dalaran => Shattrath portal
21:09.17Polarinarenchap: That would make sense.
21:09.33BrunersDalaran why?
21:09.34genetikhow would that make any more sense than going the other way?
21:09.37RaydenUniPolarina so you have to port to org or UC or something and then take a boat?
21:09.37Polarinarenchap: No, it wouldn't!
21:09.43NandiniShattrath > dalaran sounds unlikely, since there seems to be some content that should be covered before a player reaches dalaran
21:10.04Nandinithey might put a portal NPC in shatt eventually that you can access with rep or level
21:10.16renchapor a quest
21:10.19Nandinikind of like the CoT portal
21:10.35[scott]Hopefully there will be a freaking AH
21:10.40RaydenUniit could be a scryer or aldor rep portal
21:10.45Nandinino AH in northrend, already been stated :P
21:10.46NeoTron[scott]: they already stated that there won't be
21:10.50[scott]damn
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21:10.57renchapor maybe we will never go to shattrath again :)
21:11.05RaydenUnithat's fine with me
21:11.07RaydenUnino more lag city
21:11.08Burgermealanyone know of any calculator addon?
21:11.13PolarinaNandini: That'll happen the day before the release of the third expansion pack.
21:11.16renchapno RaydenUni
21:11.18NeoTronthe reason to go to outlands will be diminished significantly
21:11.20renchapa new lag city :)
21:11.23RaydenUniyay
21:11.29PolarinaBurgermeal: AceConsole-2.0
21:11.39PolarinaBurgermeal: /dump 5 + 7
21:11.42NeoTronit might still be a good place though
21:11.44NeoTronif they have portals
21:12.05NeoTroni.e if you can go to shatt, port to IF and get there easily to northrend it makes sense  to hearth to shatt
21:12.07[SW]Dodgeis 30-50CPU/Sec much for in full customized UI?  (trying to find the source of my current low fps :x)
21:12.09NeoTroneven if there's no portal
21:12.19PolarinaNeoTron: No one will raid The Eye anymore? What about the 300% flying mount drop?
21:12.40NeoTronsounds like the mounts in LK will be about the same speed, and multi-passenger
21:12.46renchapPolarina: you will be able to buy it
21:13.00NeoTronhopes the new mounts will cost a pretty penny.
21:13.02NandiniPolarina: no one will raid stratholme anymore? what about the warhorse mount drop? :P
21:13.15Polarinarenchap: If that happens, I'll quit my subscription and develop my own game with a dynamic world!
21:13.18renchap300 or 310% mounts at lvl 80
21:13.26RaydenUnii really like the idea of 10-25 mans
21:13.36renchapnot the phoenix mount, but new mounts
21:13.42renchapwith same speed
21:13.44NeoTronwith a passenger seat!
21:13.52RaydenUniwhy do you want the mounts to be expensive neotron?
21:13.55renchapor many !
21:13.55NeoTronI want a sidecar on my mount
21:14.01[scott]And costing an arm and a leg
21:14.07renchapwants a A360 airbus in game
21:14.09NeoTronRaydenUni: so they aren't something everyone immediately gets
21:14.22RaydenUniso you want improved mobility to be a hardcore game only thing?
21:14.26NeoTronno
21:14.33NeoTronit's not hard to get 5000g today
21:14.38NeoTroncorrection
21:14.41RaydenUniit is if you dislike boredom
21:14.44NeoTronit wasn't hard to get it at the start of bc
21:14.50RaydenUnii haven't broken 2000g in a while
21:14.50Nandinii'm sure all these things will change at least a dozen times before WotLK is out, and half a dozen more times after it's out
21:14.52NeoTronby the time I got to level 70 I had 3000g give or take
21:14.54RaydenUnitoo bored with dailies to do them
21:14.54NeoTronwithout really trying
21:14.55renchapthat is quite hard if you have many lvl 70 chats
21:15.01NeoTronand I had 1000g or so at level 60
21:15.04renchap*chars
21:15.17NeoTronto be specific my char had been l60 for 2 weeks when BC came out (rerolled)
21:15.25Nandiniblue also said they'd be giving us some expensive new items to buy before WotLK comes out, to try and dump some of the gold that's in the economy
21:16.08Nandinithe kind of items that you might use all the way from 71 to 80
21:16.09NeoTronRaydenUni: basically if they just give it to yuou for 200g, it's kind of what's the point/
21:16.17NeoTronit's not like it's a huge benefit over the normal epic mounts
21:16.25NeoTronnot like normal => epic mount which is huge
21:16.45CIA-4103ackis * r73618 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua:
21:16.45CIA-41TIRaid:
21:16.45CIA-41- Optimize attendance tracking code
21:17.12RaydenUniwhat are the mounts in northrend?
21:17.19RaydenUniflying won't work there so we need new ones?
21:17.21RaydenUniflying outlands
21:17.28NeoTronno they old ones will work
21:17.43NeoTronthey will just have better ones with a back seat and somewhat higher speed
21:18.43renchapand you must wait for level 77 to use flying mounts in northrend
21:19.04NeoTronRaydenUni: do you have an epic mount?
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21:19.11CIA-4103tsigo 07Ace3 * r73619 10Cutup/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
21:19.11CIA-41Cutup:
21:19.11CIA-41- Allow Julienne and Bleeder to be positioned more precisely via text inputs.
21:19.11CIA-41- Make Bleeder's db index profile.bleeder instead of profile.Bleeder for consistency with other modules.
21:19.37RaydenUninot flying
21:19.49XelopherisAV is so awesome for configuring grid.
21:19.53RaydenUnievery once in a while i get excited and do dailies for a week and then get bored
21:19.59RaydenUnii have about 800g right now
21:20.16NeoTronso I made 3000k by 70 from questing and selling everything (dual gathering)
21:20.19RaydenUnihaving more fun leveling my 64 druid than questing or doing dailies on my 70 spriest
21:20.24RaydenUnispriest is only for raiding right now
21:20.25NivFreakI only have 12K gold =(
21:20.26NeoTronI cashed in greatly on metals and leather when leveling
21:20.33ravagernlomg giev
21:20.45NeoTronat 70 I made most gold from questing
21:21.03NeoTronit took me, I think about 1-2 weeks at 70 to get an epic flyer
21:21.12NeoTronbut I borrowed about 800g to finish it up
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21:21.38NivFreakhrmm
21:21.44NivFreakfall dmg is a % of your total health right?
21:21.47NeoTronyes
21:22.00NivFreakso there's no way to avoid a crater w/ consumables right?
21:22.04NeoTronright
21:22.08genetiklight feather
21:22.09RaydenUnii don't know that i could do more than an hour of dailies
21:22.12genetikheh
21:22.13RaydenUniso let's say about 100g a day
21:22.15RaydenUnithat's still 50 days
21:22.17RaydenUni:/
21:22.27NivFreaklight featers don't do much for warriors
21:22.35NivFreakfeather
21:22.37RaydenUniwish you could do the same daily multiple times
21:22.42genetikNivFreak: charge/intercept
21:22.42RaydenUnijust do the easy ones over and over :D
21:22.47NivFreakgenetik: yep
21:22.49genetikhehe
21:22.52genetiki love doing that
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21:23.00NivFreakI was gonna spam noggin floggers too ;)
21:23.08XelopherisIs there any option in grid to grow up instead of grow down?
21:23.16NeoTronof course the largest part of my income has come from playing the auction house
21:23.19NeoTronRaydenUni: do you raid?
21:23.23RaydenUniyeah
21:23.38NeoTronbuy epic gems and sell them on the AH or sell them and then buy them
21:23.42NivFreakconsumables are pretty easy for me now days
21:23.43RaydenUnimy spriest is part of a guild that farms kara, does gruuls and mags
21:23.45NeoTron300-450g per 15 badges on my server
21:23.47NivFreakall I really buy is ironsheild mats
21:23.52RaydenUnibuy epic gems?
21:23.56NeoTronyes
21:23.58RaydenUnifrom where?
21:24.09NivFreakSSO
21:24.10NeoTronthe alchemist on sunwell island
21:24.11RaydenUnioh with badges?
21:24.13NeoTronyes
21:24.15RaydenUnioh
21:24.16RaydenUnihah
21:24.18RaydenUnii don't raid that often
21:24.23RaydenUnii need badges for my own gear :D
21:24.31RaydenUnii raid 1-2 times a week
21:24.31NeoTrona matter of priority :P
21:24.34RaydenUniwith school right now
21:24.38RaydenUnisummer might be different
21:24.59pastamancerXelopheris: layout -> advanced -> layout anchor, choose one with 'bottom' in the name
21:25.09NeoTronstill had you set away 100g per week during BC in a savings account so to speak you'd have your epic mount by now
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21:25.51RaydenUnideath knight sounds fun
21:25.55RaydenUnilike a druid but no healing
21:26.02RaydenUniand a new interesting combat mechanic
21:26.20RaydenUniyeah neotron but like i said i can farm dailies for about a week before i get bored
21:26.21NeoTronthey will have soem challenge to make other classes as interesting as DK sounds like
21:26.25RaydenUniit just turns into work
21:26.32RaydenUnii want to see a buff/support class
21:26.34NeoTron100g.. per week
21:26.37RaydenUnioh per week?
21:26.40RaydenUniyeah that's easy
21:26.42NeoTronsince BC was released
21:26.47NeoTronit's more than a year now
21:26.52RaydenUnii tried to get some guild mates to pool gold, 100g per week and help each other buy mounts
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21:26.57RaydenUnithey are all grumps and didn't want to
21:27.25Nandinii will always love my druids, but like everyone else i will probably make a DK for when it's needed
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21:27.50Xuerian~seen nymbia
21:27.58purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 35d 21h 30m ago, saying: 'Funkeh`: you better be checking over every line that gets committed'.
21:27.58Xuerian...
21:28.10Funkeh`can you quit doing that
21:28.14Funkeh`every fucing time
21:28.14XuerianNo
21:28.24Nandinibut i really really enjoy tanking, i also have a prot pally and prot warrior
21:28.34XuerianYou must tell me a spellbinding mod that supports different chars/sets >_>
21:28.44RaydenUnii am really really enjoying my druid
21:28.50RaydenUnicombat is fun
21:28.51RaydenUnii can heal
21:28.52RaydenUnii can tank
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21:28.56Xuerianqft.
21:29.00Nandiniyup, i liked my druid so much i have two of them at level 70 now :)
21:29.02RaydenUnimy warrior (44) sucks
21:29.08RaydenUnicombat is boring, take forever
21:29.11RaydenUniwhen i'm done i have to bandage
21:29.12Nandininow i want a moonkin :)
21:29.25RaydenUnidps'ing in dungeons sucks cause i have no rage
21:29.31RaydenUnitanking is also difficult cause i have less rage
21:29.35RaydenUnialthough not too bad
21:29.39RaydenUnii'm not prot specced
21:30.03Nandinii'm a glutton for punishment, i leveled my warrior in prot spec the entire time
21:30.07RaydenUniwoah
21:30.08Xueriangeez
21:30.09[scott]I tank in my dps set and shield.
21:30.19[scott]In 5 mans
21:30.19Nandinibut i did it almost entirely in instances
21:30.30Xueriannot so bad then
21:30.32ckknightNandini: I want one
21:30.45genetikNandini: i did the same thing
21:30.53Nandiniit's incredibly easy to find a spot in a 5-man group for any pre-BC dungeon as a tank on my realm
21:31.01RaydenUniyeah
21:31.08RaydenUnitakes time though
21:31.12RaydenUnithe dungeons are so spread out
21:31.18Nandinithat's time i spend mining :)
21:31.25RaydenUniand you have to do the same dungeons over and over and over
21:31.34Nandinisince mid-level metal and jewels are very expensive on my AH
21:31.52NandiniRaydenUni: you actually get a surprising amount of XP from dungeons now, especially if you do the quests for them
21:32.03RaydenUniyeah
21:32.05PeoiiNandini: Thorium ftw.
21:32.10RaydenUnii guess i'm just fed up with lower level stuff
21:32.18RaydenUnias i just leveled my druid to 64 and a warrior to 44
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21:32.25RaydenUnii don't want to
21:32.27Nandiniwell, i only started playing about a year ago, so all the pre-BC stuff to me is new :)
21:32.33RaydenUnii want to raid and do lvl 70 dungeons :)
21:32.44XelopherisWhere in the grid config is the option to have CenterText2 on the same line vs a newline?
21:32.52PeoiiI literally bought my epic flying mount on an alt by simply farming thorium... sells for 40-60g/stack on my server depending on the time of week.
21:33.05Peoiiand no one at all farms it.
21:33.19Nandinimid-level metal is going to go WAY up in the AH starting tomorrow, btw
21:33.31Peoiiwhy?
21:33.43PeoiiI didn't see anything that would make me think that in the notes.
21:33.44Nandiniand specialty items will become expensive too, as many players switch to weaponsmithing
21:33.50Peoiioh, meh.
21:34.14Nandinismart players will have done it already
21:34.31DashkalHow glad I am that I'm a druid and I don't have to deal with that...
21:34.41Nandinibut others won't have a clue until they see their friends going around dual wielding weapons that give them insane haste buffs
21:34.46Nandinior other crazy procs
21:35.05PeoiiNandini: Only the maces are really awesome.  The rest can be beaten by pvp weapons 9 times outta 10
21:35.20NeoTronare the BS wpns really that good compared to, say, the new badge weapons?
21:35.28NeoTronor pvp ones
21:35.28Nandinithe maces are
21:35.36PeoiiThe maces are, ESPECIALLY for enh shaman
21:35.38Nandinidouble stacking haste buffs
21:35.46Nandiniwith independent cooldowns
21:35.54RaydenUnias a druid should i make it a point to level leatherworking?
21:36.01PeoiiRaydenUni: Yes.
21:36.11XuerianThe BoP stuff you can get is really nice
21:36.12RaydenUnito make sets or specific pieces?
21:36.17XuerianUnless you have a raiding spot where you'd get epics easily
21:36.22Peoiidrum drum drum drum
21:36.24NandiniRaydenUni: I was skinning/mining on my druid until i began raiding and then switched to skinning/lw
21:36.31RaydenUnii'm skinning/herbal
21:36.35RaydenUnialthough herbal is at like 200
21:36.38CIA-4103Sorata * r73621 10LibStickyFrames-2.0/LibStickyFrames-2.0/LibStickyFrames-2.0.lua:
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21:36.38CIA-41- Change the way dragging is handled:
21:36.39CIA-41-- Rather than getting the x & y offset from the frame to the cursor when
21:36.39CIA-41:StartMoving is called, use the x & y offset for when the OnClick happened or if
21:36.40CIA-41not available set the offset as 0 which moves the center of the frame to the
21:36.42CIA-41cursor position.
21:36.43XuerianEngineering is the only way to go, though, tbh. <Nodnod>
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21:36.51Dashkal^^^
21:37.01Nandinithe leather set items you can make are not that great for feral druids, they're ok for resto, and basically nonexistent for balance
21:37.02RaydenUniElemental Leatherworking?
21:37.08PeoiiXuerian: lol, now if only they'd buff us a bit :(
21:37.08RaydenUnifor feral
21:37.11DashkalWell, it will be if the engy patterns start dropping in 2.4.2
21:37.36XuerianPeoii: I know! We need functional pet robots or something :P
21:37.39XuerianOr mech suits :D
21:37.40Dashkalwtb sunwell guilds with too many rogue/druid patterns on my server :p
21:37.42PeoiiDashkal: which engy patterns?
21:37.44XuerianMech suits would be better _>
21:37.45Xuerian>_>*
21:37.58DashkalPeoii: Sunwell drops the second "tier" of engineering head pieces
21:38.01Xelopherisk, anyone at all, grid, anyone?
21:38.06XuerianQuad Goggles and stuff like that.
21:38.10Nandinidashkal: even if they sold patterns, you'd have a hard time getting sunmotes to make the stuff
21:38.12XuerianMmm, Quad.
21:38.16XuerianGood in CPUs, good in googles.
21:38.17RaydenUninone of this bop leather i see has str
21:38.18PeoiiXuerian: Actually, what I'd like to see is a Telsa Coil... each engineer can deploy one, and the more there are, the more they combine their powers and do more dmg.
21:38.20RaydenUniit's all agi, sta
21:38.26XuerianPeoii: Haha, that'd be fun
21:38.32RaydenUnino good for tanking either
21:38.33XuerianRaydenUni: Forget str
21:38.34XuerianAgi is your friend
21:38.37PeoiiXuerian: I just want something raid viable :(
21:38.45Dashkalhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34353
21:38.52DashkalThere are no motes in that recipie
21:38.52XuerianPeoii: Repair bots used to be when instances were long and far away from repairs
21:38.55Nandiniagi is the feral druid's best friend
21:38.56XelopherisRaydenUni, link your armory
21:39.01RaydenUnifor my druid?
21:39.02RaydenUnihe's 64
21:39.08Xelopherisoh
21:39.09Xelopheris:P
21:39.13RaydenUnijust thinking ahead
21:39.15XuerianAgi gives you crit and dodge
21:39.16DashkalSo yeah, I want to buy that recipie :p
21:39.17Xueriancrit gives you energy
21:39.18Xelopherisyeah, once you get a feral ap weapon, agi is your best friend
21:39.20Xuerianenergy gives you damages
21:39.21Sorataand AP
21:39.24RaydenUniis there a "pre-raid" gear list for druids?
21:39.31XelopherisDownload Rawr
21:39.32DashkalBut unless those things start dropping, WotLK will come out before any hit the AH...
21:39.35Xelopherisyou can find it on the EJ forums somewhere
21:39.37PeoiiXuerian: aye, I remember those days, but still... 1 profession for being able to repair? You need what? 1 as a raid.  And the goggles aren't bad, but everyone gets a specific item, AND they typically get something else that can help them in raids.  Engineers do not.
21:39.53XuerianPeoii: Yeah, I'm just being positive, not disagreeing :P
21:40.17NandiniDashkal: the same thing happened with plenty of stuff from Naxx apparently, no one cared that much afterwwards
21:40.17PeoiiXuerian: Yea, my mage is an eng/JC... oh happy days.
21:40.29XuerianI envy JCs
21:40.31XelopherisSo does anyone know how to get grid centertext2 on a newline instead of on sameline?
21:40.32XuerianThey have nice trinkets
21:40.36XelopherisJC trinkets are shit
21:40.41PeoiiThe trinkets are meh for casters.
21:40.46PeoiiThe melee dps one is pretty sweet though
21:40.47Dashkalonce lich king comes out I won't even think of using those goggles so *shrugs* they drop soon or I don't carte
21:40.55XuerianI've been Resto 6 hours out of 3000 on my druid XD
21:40.59XuerianAnd 0 balance
21:41.00RaydenUniall classes need a gear list like the ones on shadowpriest.com
21:41.01DashkalAnd I'll be giving serious thought to dropping engy for inscription
21:41.08RaydenUnialthough i guess the druid program is nice
21:41.10Soratastrength is only better than attack power for druids when you have kings but since you won't get alot of strenght from non-set raiding gear, items with attack power tends to be better simply cause of the better iLevel
21:41.12XuerianRaydenUni: Emmerald is fulll of win
21:41.22DashkalI keep engineering pretty much entirely for injectors and those goggles
21:41.24PeoiiDashkal: Yar.  I'm considering the same thing if there aren't major changes to Engineering.
21:41.27XuerianRaydenUni: http://www.emmerald.net/
21:41.31NandiniRaydenUni: http://www.emmerald.net/Cat_DPS/Index.html
21:41.38Nandinilol
21:41.41RaydenUnioh yeah
21:41.45RaydenUniit was down the other day
21:41.46Xuerian^bible
21:41.47RaydenUniwhen i looked
21:41.49DashkalThough if the mailbox comes back I'll give some thought into keeping it :p
21:41.59Peoiimeh, I won't even keep it then
21:42.02DashkalIn which case I'll be just another Dk Inscriptionist :p
21:42.40RaydenUniyeah looks good
21:42.46PeoiiI just want something raid useful... that buffs dps, or does something useful.  They were on the right track with the Gnomish Flame Turret, to bad it turned out so awful.
21:43.01DashkalIt would depend on the mats.  If they were low enough to make it useful as a farming aid, I'd use it.  Instances are short enough that it doens't matter (and for raids you just get a lock to summon you back in)
21:43.15XuerianPeoii: Also gnomish and goblin need to be merged and then get new separate items
21:43.24PeoiiXuerian: Agreed.
21:43.34PeoiiBut oh remember the sapper charges on Visc? :)
21:43.40XuerianTehee.
21:43.40DashkalThe thing about inscription is it looks like it will have something to offer that you simply cannot get any other way (much like ring enchants) making it that much more valuable
21:44.18NeoTronI'll pick up either tailoring or inscription on my warlock (main raiding character)
21:44.28PeoiiNeoTron: What's your other prof?
21:44.32DashkalI could totally see an inscription-only recipie that makes all specils do +3% damage or some such
21:45.12NeoTronJC
21:45.33NeoTronright now mining too
21:45.39NeoTronwhich I plan to keep until JC is maxed out
21:45.59DashkalMining makes a ton of cash, so I'll be sure I always have one
21:46.05DashkalJust go mine mithril
21:46.22SorataI fear that inscriptions will end up being like the AQ spells in that some classes will get big upgrades and others not so much. Though I'm hopping there will be alot of inscriptions to choose from so that it won't b
21:46.24Soratamatter
21:46.32Dashkal*nods*
21:46.35XuerianPeoii: Oh and we damn well be able to make vehicles in WotLK.
21:46.47Dashkalit'll get patched all to hell once people learn to min/max it and break the system
21:46.49PeoiiXuerian: hrm...
21:46.54XuerianPeoii: Heck, we could be the only source =O
21:46.57NeoTronDashkal: I don't need it to make money ;-)
21:47.00DashkalXinhuan: *nogs* I'll be annoyed if we can't make vehicles :p
21:47.04PeoiiXuerian: Now fi that were true.... oh yes...
21:47.11NeoTronit's a lot more time effective for me to buy ore off the AH, prospect, cut gems and sell
21:47.16Xueriancackles evilly, thinking of the rush.
21:47.26DashkalNeoTron: There was also mention in one of the video interviews that even _gathering_ profs will give you some sort of character advantage.  Curious what form that will take
21:47.27XuerianIt's about time we get something unique to our profession
21:47.41RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=35358 <-- not so bad for feral dps or tank?
21:47.42XuerianEveryone else can make lots of stuff that other people use. We make some parts of weapons...
21:47.48RaydenUnijust all around druid gear?
21:47.59XuerianRaydenUni: The dragonhide set is a good jumping-off point
21:48.04RaydenUnik
21:48.11RaydenUniwill make sure i get that at 70
21:48.19NandiniRaydenUni: all the pvp gear is great for feral druids, even the s0.5 stuff
21:48.26RaydenUniit's not pvp
21:48.29RaydenUniit's CE rep
21:48.32DashkalThat's PvP
21:48.35RaydenUnior am i missing something
21:48.37Soratatbh, your better with the Clefthide Legs and Clefthoof legs
21:48.38XuerianThey're technically pvp
21:48.39RaydenUnipvp gear from rep?
21:48.39Dashkalit's the pvp blue set
21:48.42Dashkalyes
21:48.45Dashkalwas added in 2.4
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21:48.52Sorataone is from a quest the other from being crafted
21:49.12XuerianFor tanking get the Heavy Clefthoof chest, legs, and boots
21:49.14DashkalClefthide set is an amazing druid tanking starter set
21:49.16Nandiniyes, the Clefthoof Hide Leggings have both hit and expertise
21:49.32Nandiniand the Heavy Clefthoof set is good for tanking, but pvp gear will do you just as well
21:49.33RaydenUnioh ok
21:49.36RaydenUniother CE stuff
21:49.39Dashkalthose pvp legs are just for pvp.  I use the S3 chest piece for tanking, though
21:49.45NandiniEarthwarden from CE is good :)
21:49.52RaydenUnii know that
21:49.55DashkalEarthwarden = oh god yes until SSK :p
21:49.57RaydenUnithe best tanking weapon isn't it?
21:50.03XuerianYou'll be intimately acquainted with SV
21:50.08RaydenUniheh
21:50.10RaydenUnii gotta go
21:50.13Xuerian(Just got my EW about half a hour ago, actually. >_>)
21:50.14RaydenUnidone procting my exam
21:50.16Dashkaland I think the SSK one is the best period... unless the sunwell added something
21:50.18RaydenUnithanks guys
21:50.20RaydenUnicya
21:50.23XuerianHave fun.
21:50.28XuerianSSK is best for tanking
21:50.34Nandinithe SSC staff is the best feral tanking weapon in almost every situation
21:50.36Xuerianssc*
21:50.46Dashkalssc yeah
21:50.54DashkalSerpent Shrine Kavern :p
21:51.03Nandinithere may be a few where the pillar of lol-ocity from hyjal is better, but that would be a close call
21:51.20XuerianOh, you'll also be in the botanica alot
21:51.21charoni like pillar for trash, more tps
21:51.21DashkalJust gimme the badge one for dps and the SSC one for tanking and I'm set for life
21:51.32Dashkalat least I will be when we finally get an enchanter with +35 agi
21:51.37Nandiniyup, those are the two i use, i even use the badge staff for pvp now
21:51.39SorataNandini: Depends on your gear, the more stamina you have the better the pillar is, the more dodge you have the better Wildfury is
21:51.43XelopherisThe pillar is better when you need stam
21:52.08NeoTronI picked up the sta/resilience ring from ZA last night
21:52.10Nandiniyes, pillar is useful if you're getting stomped for example
21:52.16Xelopherisneotron, it's not so great.
21:52.17NeoTron...perfect addition to my warlock
21:52.25DashkalI should just break down and buy the damn enchant, but trade scares me, I don't want to turn it on :(
21:52.31XelopherisBecause of the way itemization is, you get more stats out of having more
21:52.34Nandinibut then again, you lose all that dodge that might save you on the next attacks
21:52.35Xelopherisso the s3 stuff has more stats
21:52.46Xelopherisnandini, that's useless if you get your ass handed to you
21:52.56NeoTronthe ring is primarily for times when I need to tank stuff and need stamina
21:53.09Xelopherisuse armor rings
21:53.12NeoTronno one else needed it so I'd rather pick it up then DE and it has 270 more stamina than other rings
21:53.22NeoTronXelopheris: I think you missed 'warlock'
21:53.27Xelopherisoh
21:53.32Xelopherisuse hit rings
21:53.32Nandinii suppose the pillar gives you an extra 100 armor or so leftover after getting stomped, too
21:53.43NeoTronI need stamina, not hit or armor
21:53.53NeoTronI never tank physical damage, only magical
21:53.57XelopherisWhat are you tanking on your warlock?
21:54.10NeoTronillidan currently. eredar twins when we get there
21:54.26NeoTronleotheras and the fire mage in TK when we were still doing those
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21:58.10krage-anyone know what the actual distance checked is for UnitInRange() ?
21:58.37Nandinikrage- it's your class's primal heal spell (or bandages if you cannot heal)
21:58.45Nandinifor hunters, it's mend pet range
21:59.00krage-hrm, k
21:59.23Nandinino one has done extensive testing for it and published their results tho
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22:00.38Xelopherisneotron: you don't need stacked stam for any of those O_o
22:00.39Nandiniit seems to be 40 yards on my druid and 45 yards on my hunter
22:00.56NeoTronXelopheris: it's better than DE
22:00.57Xelopherisillidan is easily done with just your stam gear, and twins is done in normal gear
22:01.02krage-it feels like less on my paladin for some reason
22:01.15krage-ie, people aren't counted as in range when i can still heal them
22:01.15NeoTronI might not use it or I might
22:01.21Nandiniit may be aura range for palandins, i hadn't considered that
22:01.38CIA-4103jncl * r73623 10Skinner/ (17 files in 2 dirs):
22:01.38CIA-41Skinner: Updated method used to skin Frames & updated GemHelper, MobileFrames & EnhancedTradeSkills skins because of these changes
22:01.38CIA-41- Updated Buffalo, Baggins, Grid, FramesResized & Recount skins
22:01.48XelopherisIs there anyone good with grid present?
22:02.05Nandiniafaik, UnitInRange() is only used by the blizzard party frames and raid frames, i don't know of any addons that use it yet
22:02.16NeoTronXelopheris: also in case I decide to pvp, it's a nice ring to have
22:02.24Xelopherisneotron, it isn't
22:02.25krage-it's used in oUF
22:02.28Xelopheristhe s2/s3 rings are better
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22:04.35NeoTronXelopheris: that would require having the S2/S3 rings wouldn't it?
22:05.04Xelopherisyep. Grind some honor
22:05.18NeoTronI have better things to do
22:05.24Nandinii'm excited to finally spend 40k of my banked honor tomorrow
22:05.40PeoiiNandini: Cept you won't be able to
22:05.42Nandinigives me a reason to grind another 40k before s4 starts
22:05.45sdoubleSpeaking of honor grinding, would be nice if there was a way to exchange honor for marks or something.
22:05.50NeoTronseriously, pvp is not my top priority in wow. or 2nd priority. or 3rd, 4th or 5th
22:05.52sdoubleI absolutely hate WSG.
22:05.57PeoiiThe new items won't be available til S4 afaik
22:06.00sdoubleIt takes forever and is terribly boring.
22:06.12Nandiniwill the upgraded medallion of the horde/alliance be available?
22:06.17Peoiinegative
22:06.33Nandinii thought they were releasing it early to give people a sink for their honor
22:06.42Nandinithat must just have been speculation
22:06.51NeoTronI think pvpers should have to spend their points on a "pvp item" and get something randomly assigned
22:06.52PeoiiWishful thinking imho :P
22:06.53Arrowmasternow i need to fucking farm a ton of honor for S2 gear
22:07.00NeoTronso they also can enjoy DEing a lot of their loot
22:07.08PeoiiNeoTron: LOL, word!
22:07.17NeoTronit's so much fun in PvE so why not share the love right?
22:07.37sdoubleit takes a little longer to get pvp gear though
22:07.44Peoiibull
22:07.52NeoTronsdouble: we've farmed Illidan for 5 MONTHS
22:08.09Nandiniactually, if i'm buying things with honor, i can get "comparable" gear much faster than from raiding
22:08.10NeoTronwe've gotten one skull of gul'dan
22:08.14sdoubleyeah, but something is gotten everytime.  Maybe not what you want, or something you could use specifically, but something.
22:08.28Nandinibut then again, raiding offers some items that aren't strictly comparable, and vice-versa
22:08.30Xelopherisneotron, could be worse
22:08.30NeoTronthe whole point is that it's not rare for "something" never to drop
22:08.31NeoTronever
22:08.35Peoiisdouble: Yea, we've been on Illidan for... what? 6months +?  NO shields, 1 skull, only 2 vanquisher chests ever (keep in mind he now drops 3... go go triple Conq)
22:08.42XelopherisSince october we've gotten one glaive. Two other guilds killed him int he last 3 months and already have 2 glaive sets
22:09.14NeoTronsdouble: in 5 months a pvper that pvp's in a dedicated fashion most likely has a full set
22:09.28NeoTronand who doesn't suck mind you - since in pvp you can get gear even if you nver win anything at all :)
22:09.49XuerianHow's this for a leveling lock going demon at 50? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZ0gczuidMxRt
22:09.57Xelopherisgo afflic
22:10.03sdoubleUA is great
22:10.03Burgermealmy guild's been farming illidan for about a month and we've already had a glaive, shield, 2 staves, no skull and only 1 conq
22:10.14sdoubleyou'll miss having it if you gro demon
22:10.24XuerianHm
22:10.25NeoTronXuerian: going demo at 50 (felguard) is bad
22:10.29sdoublego rather
22:10.36XuerianAh =X
22:10.39XelopherisThe main problem with FG is your main spell is still shadowbolt
22:10.43XuerianThat's good, I like affliction anyway >_>
22:10.45Xelopherisand you don't have the reduced cast time
22:10.58NeoTronat 56-60 or so felguard gets a lot better
22:11.13XuerianMakes sense. Time for UA :D
22:11.16XuerianMoar dots >.>
22:11.19PeoiiI leveld afflic on my lock all the way to 70, soloing elite quests with ease ftw
22:11.37Peoiiand oh man... You'll NEVER have as much fun as leveling thru Nagrand...
22:11.38NeoTronPeoii: and I did fg 60-70 - soloing elite quests with ease ftw
22:11.48NeoTronin fact in many ways easier since so many of them are unfearable :)
22:11.50Xelopherishttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IZbxczIizzxstxx <<-- level 60+ felguard
22:12.46PeoiiNeoTron: Yea, well... I was cheap, and never bought any grimores for any pets other than VW Sac, and my imps Blood pact... atleast until I hit level 70 :P
22:13.07sdoublesame, but I stopped at 50 to start a paladin
22:13.18thulI like my rogue :-P
22:13.39sdoublewell, VW torment too
22:15.02XuerianHmm... not sure how I'm going to bind UA though..
22:15.18XuerianI don't have any offensive spells on any actionbars, clique all the way >_>
22:16.15sdoubleI play without the mouse if I'm taking it easy and have the option.
22:16.31BurgermealCLICKERS DIE IN HELL
22:16.35XelopherisXuerian, you can castsequence it :D:D
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22:16.54sdoubledoes clique work with macros?
22:16.58sdoubleI've never tried.
22:17.03Nandinii believe it does
22:17.15Xuerianyes
22:17.26XuerianXelopheris: I do need to make a castsequence or three... any recommendations?
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22:18.27Nandinihmm just looking at clique, i don't see explicit support for macros, but you could put the macro on a button and have it use that
22:18.46GandersI have a question about table.sort
22:18.47XuerianClique menu -> Custom -> Run Custom Macro
22:18.55XuerianGanders: it sucks go kill yourself
22:19.03Nandinioh there it is
22:19.05XelopherisDid cooldownbuttons break for itemcooldowns with the new version?
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22:19.10Ganderswut?
22:19.14XuerianGanders: lol
22:19.19XuerianGanders: go ahead
22:19.22sdoubleHe said: [17:21] <Xuerian> Ganders: it sucks go kill yourself
22:19.22Gandersok..
22:19.25Gandersheh
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22:20.03Gandersif i wanted to sort a table that looked like ["string"] = number in order from high number to low number, what kind of function would I use for the comp function?
22:20.29Gandersfunction(a, b) return a > b end doesn't work
22:20.30Arrowmasteryou cant
22:20.36NeoTronit's an unordered hash
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22:20.46XuerianHash tables aren't ordere
22:20.46laggeris there an api for libbars anywhere?
22:20.48XuerianWELCOME TO HELL
22:20.51XuerianBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
22:20.57Gandersso no way to order it at all?
22:20.58Xueriancackles
22:21.11XuerianFlip the table and use that as a index
22:21.12Xuerianotherwise no
22:21.15DashkalGanders: Make a second reverse table :p
22:21.26NeoTronyou have to build an ordered array of the keys, sort the array with a custom sort function that does hash[a] > hash[b]
22:21.39kergothlagger:  other than the code, no.  it is still beta, after all.  look at the code, or look at some addons that use it, like the test addon thats in svn with the lib
22:21.44Zhinjiomake a table that has [sortedindex] = ["string"] as the pairs
22:21.48XuerianYou can also use a iterator
22:21.50DashkalOr an "index" table that's a list which each value being the key in the master table
22:22.19Zhinjiook, I'm pretty darn happy with the way this looks now. http://www.teamveracity.com/
22:22.35Zhinjioum, actually, make sure you select "zj" from the themes menu at the bottom left
22:22.41CIA-4103danielbarron * r73624 10RaidBuffStatus/ (8 files): (log message trimmed)
22:22.41CIA-41RaidBuffStatus:
22:22.42CIA-41- Added the ability to Ctrl-click a self buff and have the addon whisper those who need it.
22:22.42CIA-41- Added some Spanish translations.
22:22.42CIA-41- Added a talent report for Paladins with Kings and Sanctuary.
22:22.43CIA-41- Added a talent report for Warriors with improved demo shout.
22:22.44Zhinjiothe "WoW" theme is the old one I'm replacing
22:22.45CIA-41- Auto-disabled buffs are now faded out on the dashboard for improved clarity.
22:22.55XuerianZhinjio: It's overwide on 1024x768
22:23.13ZhinjioXuerian: make sure you change the default theme
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22:23.34Zhinjiogo to 'zj' or either of its children
22:23.35XuerianHow about you change the forum's default theme? :P
22:23.38Uhuru!seen belazor
22:23.46ZhinjioI will when I'm completely done
22:23.48ZhinjioI'm not yet
22:23.51XuerianAhh
22:24.01[scott]~seen belazor
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22:25.04sdoubleI have a terrible urge to respec to balance and it's only 48.
22:25.22XuerianFrom what?
22:25.25sdoubleferal
22:25.29Xueriango die
22:25.34sdoublemelee bores me too quickly
22:25.40Xuerian>:|
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22:26.29XuerianBalance and Elemental do not exist
22:26.31Xuerian>:O
22:27.18sdoubleheh
22:27.19sdoubleThose are the fun ones.
22:27.19sdoubleYou get a caster in mail with a shield and a caster in plate basically
22:27.36XuerianPushback annoys me too much =\
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22:29.18DashkalBalance can be leveled right from 1-70 so ignore him :p
22:29.31DashkalI'd never do it myself, though.  <3 Melee
22:29.58DashkalPushback?  You're doing it wrong :p
22:30.09XuerianShammy :p
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22:30.19Dashkaleh, I dislike the shaman in any spec
22:30.24sdoubleYeah, I'm trying to catch up with a couple people in their 60s though.  feral is the logical choice to level in a hurry
22:30.36sdoubleshaman is probably my favorite class to play.  =[
22:30.38DashkalFeral is faster, but only by so much after boomkin
22:30.38Ganderswhy is entry = {name = GetAddOnInfo(i), memory = memory} working, but entry.name = GetAddOnInfo(i); entry.memory = memory isn't working?
22:30.44XuerianI love my enh shammy
22:30.52DashkalI'm not dissing shamans :p  I just dislike the playstyle
22:31.02XuerianIs entry already a table at that point, ganders?
22:31.06Gandersyes
22:31.12Gandersat the beginning of the file i have local entry = {}
22:31.17Gandersthen it does what I said up there
22:31.22Gandersthen table.insert(addons, entry)
22:31.25Gandersand it's in a for loop
22:31.42DashkalThe real reason I'm so stoked about DKs is that the playstyle sounds very intriguing.  Sounds like a fun flow.
22:31.57sdoubleYeah, there are going to be so many of them.
22:32.03DashkalIf I like it as much as I hope I do, my druid is going Resto :p
22:32.11sdoubleYou'll have groups of 5 DKs runnin instances.
22:32.18sdoublerunning
22:32.25DashkalFor about 2 weeks
22:32.25Dashkalthen it'll die down
22:32.29Gandershopefully
22:32.30charonGanders: everything is a reference. you are probably adding lots of references to the same 'entry' table (created with the {} at the beginning) to your 'addons' table
22:32.32Xuerian<-- Going to be playing shaman/druid/warlock during the DK rush
22:32.38XuerianI dont' want to feel the nerfs >_>
22:32.43DashkalI _really_ doubt everybody will roll a DK and _stay_ a DK.
22:32.55DashkalBut I'm giving some thought to just not playing lich king for a couple weeks :p
22:33.07charonGanders: on the other hand the explicit {...} creates a new table every time
22:33.17Ganderscharon: putting an entry = {} before will fix it I think
22:33.21sdoubleis there a general time frame on wotlk?
22:33.25DashkalI'll probably be working my druid towards 80 until the rush end, then I'll consider switching
22:33.26Gandersbut I don't want to put that in a for loop, that's a lot of garbage
22:33.32Dashkalsdouble: Rumor mill says fall or christmas
22:33.44charonGanders: well to create the data structure you're describing, you have to.
22:33.53Gandershrm
22:34.01charonyou can't make a table of lots of tables without creating lots of tables. :)
22:34.18sdoubleyeah, when the DKs are all over the place, good time to have a healer class
22:34.22charonperhaps you could consider making separate 'name' and 'memory' tables which gets you just two tables overall
22:34.48DashkalBut again, I really doubt there'll be an overwhelming number of DKs at 80.  At 60-70, for sure
22:34.53Gandersnah, that wouldn't work because I need to run a pairs() on just one table
22:35.22DashkalBut I intend to solo 60-70, so not too worried about a healer shortage.
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22:35.46charonGanders: huh. why pairs() on a table filled by table.insert(..)?
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22:37.00Gandersfor _, entry in pairs(addons)
22:37.24Gandersit has to use table.insert so it can use table.sort
22:37.42Arrowmasteryou should use ipairs then not pairs
22:38.28Gandersdoes that make a difference? other than what's returned by the first argument
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22:38.31Arrowmasteryes
22:38.43Xuerianpairs-by-integer-order
22:38.44Xuerian>_>
22:38.46charonand you can avoid all those little tables by using an "array" (numbered table) of names and a "hash" (table indexed by strings) that maps names to memory, if all you want to is sort by memory
22:38.50Arrowmastera very very big difference
22:38.52Dashkalwait a sec, why a table of lots of tables?  Couldn't you make the index table just have the keys to the original table as values?  A sort function would just have to be a closure over the scope with the original table and it could still do its work
22:38.59{R~seen tsigo
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22:39.44Gandershrm
22:40.12Dashkalindex[0] = "foo", index[1] = "bar" and t.foo = 10, t.bar = 20
22:40.25Ganderswhat i'm trying to do is modify LynStats to use a table like ["addon"] = memory instead of [1] = { addon = "addon", memory = 1234 }
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22:40.44Arrowmasterwhy
22:41.24Gandersbecause the way it's written it does a for loop and creates a new table in every loop, which as I hear isn't very memory-friendly
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22:41.44Arrowmasterhow often does it do that
22:41.48DARKGuyafternoon ^_^
22:41.55DashkalMwrarf
22:41.56Ganders"OnEnter"
22:42.06Ganderseverytime i mouseover it
22:42.07Arrowmasterleave it alone then
22:42.12Gandersk
22:42.15DARKGuyanybody knows how do I delete a non-wowace addon in jWoWUpdater? :/
22:42.23Xuerian>_>
22:42.27sb*cry* Tekkub! SYC just bought 2 * 74 candles :p
22:42.31DashkalOpen the folder and press the delete button on your keyboard ;)
22:42.36Xueriancd \program files\world of warcraft\interface\addons
22:42.37GandersArrowmaster: should I not worry about that unless that's used in an OnUpdate function?
22:42.40Xueriandel addon
22:42.44ArrowmasterGanders: yes
22:42.50Gandersok, thank you
22:43.02XuerianOr called often, on-update or not
22:43.05DARKGuyXuerian, uh, the folder has no addons :P
22:43.11Arrowmasteror atleast not until you get a better handle on Lua
22:43.26DashkalDARKGuy: vista?
22:43.46DARKGuyDashkal, yes, but it happens on XP too :(
22:43.50DARKGuyI have WoW in C:\Juegos\WoW though
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22:43.59Arrowmasterso open that folder
22:44.04DashkalOn XP the addons will be right where he said they should be.  On Vista they can also hide under c:\Users\
22:44.36DashkalVista is _trying_ to use the unix approach for non-admin users, but is so far failing
22:44.59Arrowmasterthats not a unix approach
22:45.01DARKGuyyeah :P
22:45.13DashkalArrowmaster: O.o?
22:45.21Arrowmasterthats nothing at all like unix
22:45.40XuerianThe general idea
22:45.45XuerianVery.. .general... idea
22:45.54DARKGuyDashkal, under Users, exactly where? I see no jwowupdater folder in Local, Roaming or LocalLow
22:45.57DashkalHaving per-user data for an application in a directory devoted to the user is a unix-like approach.  Nevermind semantics like paths :p
22:46.20DashkalDARKGuy: no idea.  I banished wow from program files as soon as I discovered that bit of fun and it lives in my wow folder/interface/addons
22:46.31Arrowmasteroh you mean like configs in dot files in the users home dir?
22:46.41XuerianThings like that.
22:46.51Arrowmasterbut xp does that too
22:47.01Arrowmasterit just doesnt force it
22:47.04DARKGuyDashkal, I have never installed wow in C:\Program files, I have it in C:\Juegos\WoW :P
22:47.07Arrowmasterand neither does unix
22:47.11Orionshockwhat's the trick for getting the NPC ID from the GUID?
22:47.15DashkalArrowmaster: *nods*  On vista wow likes to have stuff show up in the user's home directory.  I never looked very far into it.  Vista does it moreso than XP (it actually tries to make legacy apps do it too through some sort of "virtual store")
22:47.42ArrowmasterOrionshock: guid:sub(-12,-7)
22:48.00DashkalBut as I mentioned, it so far failed at it.  It just looks like that's the goal
22:48.33DashkalIt looks like some sort of bastardized "overlay" over program files so users can "save" data to the program directory without actually modifying it.
22:49.36DashkalWith some more work at it, they may even get it right eventually.  The goal is a good one: Make it so users do not need write access to the program files directory,
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22:50.17CIA-41NinjaPoints:
22:50.17CIA-41- Fixed sounds
22:51.53XuerianMany games are moving that way anyway, I see the My Games folder filling up more and more (on xp)
22:54.42Arrowmastertheres a My Games folder on XP?
22:54.51DARKGuyin My Documents
22:54.57Arrowmasteroh
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22:55.55DashkalIt's just good practice.  Glad to see things moving towards that
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22:56.18DashkalWindows will have far less issues (relitively speaking) when the user people log in with can't fuck with most of the system.
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22:57.23DashkalJust crossing my fingers that vista will suck less come sp2 (it took about that long for XP to stop sucking, here's hoping they can at least match that mark)
22:57.52XuerianSome people still favor xpsp1
22:57.54XuerianI have no idea why
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22:58.15XuerianI just did a clean install of xp with sp3 slipstreamed, and it's running beautifully
22:58.18DashkalEh, there's probably some logic to it.  But SP2 tightened up quite a bit of security issues
22:58.38XuerianThey complain that the SPs bloated it, but if they're that anal they should use nLite
22:58.38DashkalI still won't run any version of windows naked to the internet...
22:59.01DashkalErm, if they're worried about bloat, go back to win2k :p
22:59.17Xuerian:P
23:00.03DashkalErm, long as it hasn't hit end of life, anyway :p  Security updates ftw
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23:01.39Dashkal~cartographer3
23:01.40purlcartographer3 is, like, the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
23:01.43XuerianI rather like XP actually
23:01.48JoshBorkeXuerian: me too
23:02.36XuerianSuperficially, lots of people knock the visual styles, but they hit a nice spot that Areo way overshot, making things look palatable without much of a performance impact
23:02.41DARKGuyI like XP, but somehow Vista's aero persuaded me :'(
23:03.06XuerianDARKGuy: If I'm going through that much trouble, I'm going straight to linux. I've had it installed dual-boot for years, but always end up my xp partition
23:03.24XuerianAny games that require DX10 that don't have a gl version I'd probably rather play on a console anyway
23:03.50DARKGuydunno, I don't have an X-Box so I got Assassins's Creed instead, cheaper and I can play it on my compie
23:04.01elite3vil"No instance servers are available"... yay. and we're supposed to raid in an hour.
23:04.21XuerianDARKGuy: I heard the port was horribly plagued with bugs
23:04.31XuerianDARKGuy: I agree though, it'd be convenient, and AC is pure win
23:05.00DARKGuyXuerian, well I've never played the X-Box version... but for being for PC, it's pretty good... looks exactly like in the youtube videos, hey, at least it isn't like the UGLY port of Halo 2 :P
23:05.18XuerianDARKGuy: It's one of the games that strikes me more as a console game.
23:05.27DARKGuyXuerian, me too
23:05.43DARKGuyHalo 2 on console = teh win
23:06.04vhaarrXuerian: you just need to put in a few days of focused work and then you'll be able to do everything on linux
23:06.04XuerianLight shooters on consoles maybe, but otherwise on the pc. ETQW etc few
23:06.12vhaarrXuerian: I was just like you there, I had it dualbooted for years
23:06.25Xuerianvhaarr: I know, but you'd be surprised how "A few days of focused work" can keep me away XD
23:06.40Xelopherishow much spell haste rating per spell haste? 15.76?
23:06.45vhaarrXuerian: yeah I needed a motivator as well; what finally pushed me over was when my torrent application crashed
23:06.53CIA-4103orionshock * r73628 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (core.lua localization-deDE.lua):
23:06.53CIA-41SickOfClickingDailies:
23:06.53CIA-41-deDE update
23:06.53CIA-41-core optimizations
23:07.08vhaarrXuerian: and all the torrents I had seeding for ratio on various sites had to be reopened and verified
23:07.21vhaarrXuerian: so I figured I would boot linux and try to do it in a torrent app there instead
23:07.22XuerianI've got this iteration of my computer setup for it though really, dedicated 160gb OS HDD with only my 20gb xp partition so far. a 250 and 160gb data disk sitting below it
23:07.25vhaarrand since then I haven't rebooted
23:07.37Xuerianvhaarr: Nice, what'd you end up using, transmission?
23:07.41vhaarrXuerian: yes
23:07.52Xuerianvhaarr: What distro?
23:08.02vhaarrXuerian: ubuntu, but it's very customized
23:08.10vhaarrmight as well have been debian
23:08.34vhaarrXuerian: I used to run ubuntu on my workstation at my previous job for 3 years
23:08.40XuerianHeh. I just haven't spent enough time to see the functional differences between them, barring package management systems
23:08.40vhaarrso I had a copy of my home folder from there
23:09.02vhaarrthere's no difference
23:09.05DARKGuyTransmission ftw!
23:09.13DARKGuybut I prefer uTorrent under wine :$
23:09.17vhaarrXuerian: the difference is that ubuntu gets more recent software versions faster
23:09.29vhaarrDARKGuy: because you think you need more control than you really do
23:09.33vhaarrbut you don't need it :P
23:09.33Xuerianvhaarr: Packaged, anyway
23:09.37vhaarrXuerian: right
23:09.40DARKGuyvhaarr, maybe, I just trust it more :P
23:09.56XuerianGot used to source compliation probably five years back when I tried slackware
23:10.00vhaarrtransmission is perfect
23:10.00Xuerianthat scarred me...
23:10.01DARKGuyvhaarr, however, Arch gets more recent versions of packages than Ubuntu imho.
23:10.08vhaarrXuerian: slackware gets better every day though
23:10.11vhaarrand there's always gentoo
23:10.15DARKGuyWhen Hoary was in Beta and all, I was already using the programs :P
23:10.29XuerianGentoo is based on full recompiles per computer, isn't it?
23:10.30vhaarrDARKGuy: I need to get transmission and some other things from getdeb.org anyway
23:10.36vhaarrXuerian: yeah
23:10.41XuerianPondered that too
23:10.48DARKGuyit's horrible :p
23:10.51vhaarrXuerian: but they do have a precompiled repo
23:10.55vhaarrI think
23:10.58DARKGuyvhaarr, sucks =(
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23:11.06Xuerianlol, from experience dark?
23:11.10kergothgentoo's binary support is weak, and every other distro's source tools are weak
23:11.11Dashkalgentoo = lose
23:11.13kergothwtb a combination
23:11.20DARKGuyXuerian, yeah :P
23:11.26vhaarrkergoth: apt-source has worked for me the few times I've used it
23:11.40vhaarrkergoth: on wine, mostly
23:11.40DARKGuyI couldn't even get to install it, for installing a program you have to edit an ebuilds file thing, ew.
23:11.45Dashkaluse flags just don't work as advertised.  I've yet to manage to take a gentoo box, change the use flags, and NOT have to reinstall after 6 months
23:11.45kergoththeres apt-source, apt-build, lots of tools, they just arent consistent, and are nothing compared to portage
23:11.46[scott]I went down the Gentoo path for a few months. I went back to Fedora after a while. Packages > compiled imo
23:11.47profalbertI love ubuntu, because I'm just terribly lazy
23:11.51vhaarrtrue
23:11.57DashkalI want a 6 month reinstall time, I'll go use windows.
23:12.02kergothuse flags is a bad design, a single flat namespace for the entire distro's build config? -please-
23:12.11DARKGuyDashkal, you'll get that with Ubuntu :P
23:12.15vhaarrin a perfect world, kergoth  :P
23:12.19vhaarrwe can dream!
23:12.22DashkalUbuntu's upgrade path works fine, DARKGuy
23:12.23XuerianDashkal: Windows is quick to reinstall, honestly
23:12.28DashkalKubuntu: not so much
23:12.29Xuerianwell maybe not vista...
23:12.39vhaarrXuerian: that all depends on your computer ..
23:12.51Xuerianvhaarr: Unless you're talking about extremes, it's generally true
23:12.52kergothi built a tool for buildign linux distros based on portage, trust me, USE just isnt enough
23:12.53DashkalReinstall is perfectly fast, except I always forget to backup something and lose stuff
23:12.54vhaarrXuerian: my parents recently bought a new laptop and my dad called me up to get help installing it
23:12.56DashkalI'd rather just not have to
23:12.58DARKGuyXuerian, it is. Installing SP3 takes a lot of time though so I made my own slipstreamed vista with vLite ^^
23:13.07NivFreakhrmm
23:13.07vhaarrXuerian: and Acer or whatever it was had included a CD with some extra software
23:13.09vhaarr"some"
23:13.19Xuerianvhaarr: Haha, don't you just love obscure driers
23:13.19NivFreakdid they give out WotLK beta keys at the last blizzcon?
23:13.19vhaarrXuerian: the CD with 6 applications took TEN HOURS to install
23:13.23DARKGuyDashkal, oh it does? it has been so long since I tried anyways, so I moved to Arch :p
23:13.25Xueriano_0;;;
23:13.25Xuerianwtf
23:13.28Xuerianfail
23:13.30DARKGuyomfg.
23:13.31vhaarrfail indeed
23:13.41vhaarr1. Buy new computer
23:13.43vhaarr2. Plug in
23:13.44DashkalDARKGuy: Going from gutsy to hardy was completely painless
23:13.45vhaarr3. Insert CD
23:13.51vhaarr4. Wait 10 hours for *6* software apps from Acer
23:14.00DashkalNothing like the hoary -> dapper nightmare
23:14.00XuerianWhat were the apps anyway?
23:14.11Xuerian"The Real Matrix, Extended Edition"?
23:14.13vhaarrXuerian: things like poweriso and image handling software
23:14.21DARKGuyDashkal, oh Ubuntu you mean, yeah I once upgraded from Edgy to Feisty and it was cool, luckily Ubuntu has a very good update system
23:14.24vhaarr"Acer PowerLaunch (TM)"
23:14.27vhaarretc
23:14.35kergothman i <3 the new linux installers that are executed from inside a live cd/dvd
23:14.38kergothbeing able to irc while installing ftw
23:14.42DARKGuyftw!
23:14.44DashkalI used to use kubuntu, but it just wasn't polished enough.  I gave up and learned to use gnome.  Not going back
23:14.47Xuerianvhaarr: daemon tools image burn powertoy vlc alchohol 120 and xnview
23:14.49Dashkalespecially since kde4 is a vista wannabe
23:14.52XuerianNo more cd >_>
23:14.53DARKGuyArch installs in 15 minutes though, I <3 it.
23:15.09vhaarrXuerian: yeah but my DAD bought the computer, I don't live there
23:15.11Dashkalform over function does not belong on a computer I use to do real work thank you
23:15.14Xuerianvhaarr: Fair enough >_<
23:15.15vhaarrXuerian: the computer asked him to insert the CD, so he did
23:15.24XuerianBlind faith is bad XD
23:15.40vhaarrit's not blind faith, 98% of all parents would have done the same thing
23:15.51vhaarrit's ignorance
23:15.58elite3vil"Click here to install spyware to your computer to help protect your system!"
23:15.58NeoTronI'm a parent. I wouldn't have done it >:-)
23:15.59XuerianI included that in my meaning :p
23:16.08Xuerianelite3vil: It scares me how many people do that
23:16.26thulI like osx
23:16.26elite3vilXuerian: Same here, I used to work for Geeksquad.
23:16.28thulbut that is me
23:16.42Xuerianelite3vil: As bad as it's knocked up to be?
23:16.43thulI'm so going to get a hackintosh to play wow with :-P since my macbook is a bit slopw
23:17.08DARKGuythul, make sure you get good hardware for it, stupid Mac OS has WORSE hardware detection and drivers than vista :P
23:17.22elite3vilXuerian: Eh, it would've been better if my manager knew a thing or two about computers. He was just there to make sales though.
23:17.31Xuerianelite3vil: Awesome =X
23:18.14DARKGuyDashkal, btw, pure fail :( http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2467/suckyuh2.jpg
23:18.30elite3vilXuerian: He expected us to be able to diagnose/repair 8 - 14 computers at a time, while handling customers at the counter
23:18.39XuerianHaha
23:18.45elite3vilat a time being per hour
23:19.03XuerianGeez, I take it you left because of that
23:19.13DARKGuyI hate when managers/bosses don't have a fscking idea about computers, they think it's something easy
23:19.15elite3vilNo, mostly just because he was a douchebag.
23:19.19DashkalDARKGuy: Nice!  At this point I'd recommend a filesystem search for the addons you have installed :p
23:20.06elite3vilXuerian: It was his mo to pick one employee and make their life a living hell, watched him do it to two people before me.
23:20.12elite3vilThey both quit too.
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23:20.22Xuerianelite3vil: You see it coming and leave, or get hit with it?
23:20.32elite3villittle of both?
23:20.38Xuerian>.<
23:21.31elite3vilIt's okay, I made sure to go in the day I quit, and wore my "It's not my fault you suck" shirt. Walked up to him and said "I wore this just for you"
23:21.36DARKGuyDashkal, well, it exists in C:\Juegos\WoW but not in C:\Juegos\WoWRosmi. I know jwowupdater updates the list itself becuase when I change folder and click rescan, the Delete Addon window shows no addons to delete in WoWRosmi, and shows my current addons in WoW, so it's doing it good... stupid non-wowace stuff
23:21.48Xuerianelite3vil: hahaha. What do you do now?
23:21.57elite3vilXuerian: Play WoW.
23:22.07Xuerianhallelujah.
23:22.16DashkalDARKGuy: Wish I knew.  I don't appear to have anything odd going on since I banished wow from there.  But my wow lives right in my home directory
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23:22.18DARKGuyelite3vil, that's 1337
23:22.22Dashkalso c:\users\<username>\wow
23:22.32DARKGuyDashkal, c:\users ??
23:22.37DARKGuy... wow.
23:22.48DashkalThe laptop is single-user anyway, so why not.
23:22.50dylanmhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11560.msg215086#msg215086 Hurray users.
23:23.01DashkalNot like I have someone else using the thing who wants access to wow.
23:23.27elite3vilXuerian: I'm a manager of my 87 year old Grandfather's PCA's (Personal Care Assistants).. money isn't bad, but my only expenses I have to pay are my $320/yr in WoW subscriptions.
23:23.37DARKGuydylanm, community ftw ^^
23:23.40Xuerianhah, nice
23:23.53[scott]Ok, when I set # of addons to display to something huge, performancefu gets a sliding bar on the right of its tooltip, hiding alot of the addons. The tooltip vanishes when I try to mouse over the tooltip >.>
23:24.02elite3vilI also remotely "manage" 2 servers
23:24.24Orionshock[scott]: scroll weel
23:24.28Orionshock*wheel
23:24.45elite3vil(Which pretty much means, I do updates to them when they're available.. andd wait for them to break... and get paid absurd amounts of money for sitting on my ass)
23:25.02Xuerianelite3vil: Where do I sign up >_>
23:25.02ArrowmasterDARKGuy: whats Juegos mean?
23:25.14Funkeh`jugs
23:25.17Funkeh`big jugs
23:25.18DARKGuyArrowmaster, games in spanish :P
23:25.19DARKGuylol
23:25.30XuerianAhh, we know where Funkeh` puts his two cents
23:25.32Xuerianand two dollar bills
23:25.36dylanmVIDEOJUEGOS
23:25.40DARKGuyXD
23:27.01DARKGuyyeah, but c:\videojuegos\wow sounds too cheesy
23:28.38sdouble[18:17] <DARKGuy> Arch installs in 15 minutes though, I <3 it.  <-- Same.  It installs in 15 minutes because there is nothing with it.  Many people don't want to dick around with putting their whole system together.
23:29.15DARKGuysdouble, true, the painful part is downloading X+gnome, pure ouch.
23:29.50XuerianWhat, downloading it or getting it to actually start up into something beyond the same terminal you just thought you left?
23:30.20DARKGuyXuerian, downloading :P setting it up isn't as painful, edit a few files and you're done
23:30.34XuerianDARKGuy: I've had a lot of trouble with X... >_o
23:30.43DARKGuyoh, and download the nvidia driver, and firefox, and mplayer, and gstreamer codecs, and mc, and leafpad...
23:31.19Dashkalleafpad?
23:31.22DARKGuyXuerian, well if it's ATI or Intel I can't be of much help :(
23:31.27GngskDashkal, it's like notepad
23:31.27DARKGuyDashkal, lightweight notepad-like program
23:31.29DARKGuyI <3 it
23:31.30XuerianDARKGuy: Intel is actually rather painless
23:31.45Dashkalahh.  I just use gnome's text editor for that.  or nano :p
23:31.48XuerianDARKGuy: Tried it on ATI a while back.. aghawer02138u540q2345ussdf.
23:32.03DARKGuyXuerian, haha so true, good to know Intel is easy to set up ^^
23:32.18XuerianNow I'm stuck with the fact that no one will fix the bugs in the nvidia drivers that composting WMs tend to excite in Xinerama
23:32.19DARKGuyDashkal, nano ftw, but Gedit is too bloated imho for editing a single file, and leafpad opens faster
23:32.19DashkalFor some reason my boss gave me two gigs of ram in my dev box... not hurting for resources :p
23:32.22elite3vilXuerian: /wrists @ ATI
23:32.26sdoubleno doubt
23:32.34sdoubleI have ATI, and because of it, I'm running windows.
23:32.44Dashkalgedit opens in under one second... anything more than that is not saving me any time
23:32.47XuerianI have a 1024x768 and 1280x1024 screen, try getting THAT to work with composting
23:33.00Dashkalgive AMD time, they're working on fixing the ATI on Linux issue
23:33.01DARKGuyEw.
23:33.29sdoubleI prefer kate as a graphical editor.
23:33.53XuerianThat's where windows and osx still flounce linux, not necessarily due to the kernal or anything, but display drivers -_-
23:34.06PolarinaI use gedit.
23:34.06Xueriankernel* >_>
23:34.07Arrowmasterive been thinking of switching to osx just because textmate looks so nice
23:34.11DARKGuyXuerian, I agree :P
23:34.28DARKGuyI used to use Kate as a programming editor, embedded terminal ftw :3
23:34.37vhaarrgedit has lots of problems that must be fixed before it can be used for development fulltime
23:34.55DARKGuyvhaarr, such as? I use it for C/C++ and web programming :p
23:34.56vhaarrgedit/gtksourceview
23:35.16sdoublekate wins
23:35.21vhaarrDARKGuy: such as the fact that gtksourceview doesn't recognize lua files as Lua, but as VHDL, but that's a problem in the mime data
23:35.41DashkalNVidia drivers  are just fine.  Windows is about equal for nvidia
23:35.41DARKGuyvhaarr, ah yeah, I've had it mess up on me with Lua sometimes :@
23:35.56vhaarrDARKGuy: also when you use search/replace the dialog focus is weird, and the first time you try to alt-tab away from gedit with the search dialog open, it tabs back to gedit, but then it works normally
23:36.03XuerianDashkal: Performance yes, but there's still odd bugs, like the one I mentionend
23:36.11vhaarrDARKGuy: and pasting in gedit sometimes pastes into random places in a text file
23:36.25Dashkalahh, xinerama
23:36.31DashkalI gave up on multi-monitors
23:36.35DashkalI couldn't make that work on any os
23:36.44XuerianWorks nicely in xp, is the thing :p
23:36.55DARKGuyvhaarr, huh, I've never had that search/replace dialog bug happen on me, but the pasting text in random places is pure fail
23:37.05DashkalI can make basic "show me more than one" work, but try to do anything accelerated and it asplodes
23:37.06Orionshocki run dual monitor with vista
23:37.08Orionshockno problem
23:37.10vhaarrDARKGuy: you probably don't use it like I do then
23:37.14DashkalXP would bluescreen on me
23:37.23profalbertMulti-monitor is easy with ATIs and nvidias windows-drivers
23:37.28DashkalMind you, I gave up years ago so I don't doubt that was fixed
23:37.29DARKGuyvhaarr, yeah could be ^^
23:37.30Xuerianprofalbert: Exactly
23:37.39DARKGuymultimonitor in linux is a pain to even set up
23:37.40vhaarrDARKGuy: in any case, those 3 things are very, very annoying
23:37.55vhaarrso I just use vim and nano instead most of the time
23:37.56DARKGuyright click -> properties -> advanced -> click 2nd screen -> extend desktop to this monitor = pure win
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23:38.21XuerianTwinview isn't hard, but things like gnome-do popping up mid-screen and then not having 1/3 of my monitor on the right screen are mildly annoying
23:38.24vhaarrLua syntax highlighting for nano: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13409.0
23:38.24DARKGuyvhaarr, I don't get how people can use text editors for programming, I mean, you gotta use the mouse someday :/
23:38.29ajmitchit's significantly easier in the latest ubuntu (and fedora, I heard)
23:38.35laggerlibbars keeps recycling frames right?
23:38.35Xuerianvhaarr: Haha, I wondered when nano would come up
23:38.40vhaarr:P
23:38.42DashkalCurrent versions of ubuntu aren't much more difficult to set up, DARKGuy.  No more hand editing of the config file
23:38.56XuerianJust like was promised in gutsy
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23:39.02DARKGuyDashkal, with the new "x configurator" ?
23:39.07DashkalSystem->Preferences->Screen Resolution
23:39.19DashkalI don't know from there as I don't have a dual-headed card in this box, though
23:39.34DashkalGotta love the intel chipset (it _is_ a pure dev box *sigh*)
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23:39.58XuerianI'll give it to intel, their linux drivers just work quite nicely
23:40.04XuerianDon't do great, but work
23:40.12DashkalXinhuan: Fuck that.  1440x900 is a pain in the ass to work
23:40.40DashkalI have to do a bloddy mode replacement script on startup to make it work
23:40.48vhaarrVia just released the code to some framebuffer drivers for linux
23:41.21DashkalOops, sorry, Xinhuan.  That was to Xuerian.
23:41.26profalbertI had no problems setting up 1680x1050 with my nvidia-card
23:41.29XuerianDashkal: Happens to him all the time :p
23:41.34Dashkal:p
23:41.42profalbertwell the little problems when using the GUI
23:41.45DashkalI see X..n and that's about it :p
23:42.01XuerianXu/Xi
23:42.06XuerianSecond letter :p
23:42.16DashkalWhat I really want is Notepad++ on linux.  They need to port their shell back over.
23:42.22Xuerianfoobar2000 :(
23:42.31Arrowmasterfoobar2000 would be nice
23:42.31vhaarrXuerian: SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0 uses the GOLD, SILVER and COPPER globalstrings, they are gone in 2.4.2
23:42.34XuerianWithout molesting it through wine
23:42.40Xuerianvhaarr aw shit >_<
23:42.57Xuerianvhaarr: Oh yeah, I forgot, they replaced it with format strings
23:43.00vhaarryes
23:43.18Xuerianvhaarr: Well, I'll fix it when when .2 hits, no use making a check if I'm not even going to play on the ptr
23:43.30vhaarrXuerian: it should hit tomorrow
23:43.36Xuerianvhaarr: Then tomorrow it will be :p
23:43.56laggervhaarr does libbars keep recycling frames?
23:44.00vhaarrXuerian: you can use the new GOLD_AMOUNT strings, just replace the %d's in them with (%d+)
23:44.04Xuerianlagger: It would be stupid if they didn't
23:44.06vhaarrlagger: yeah
23:44.25Xuerianvhaarr: Deformat to the rescue again, I'm pretty sure.
23:44.43laggeris there an easier way to "refire" a bar instead of just calling newtimerbar
23:45.02laggeror should i just create my own for that
23:45.34vhaarrlagger: when you figure out the answer, note it down on the wiki somewhere
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23:45.50Gnarfozwth who broke Incubator
23:45.53XuerianAhh, programmers.
23:45.55XuerianXD
23:45.59DARKGuyxD
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23:46.19ckknightXD
23:46.51vhaarrXuerian: pretty sure you don't have to deformat it, you can just do GOLD_AMOUNT:gsub("%%d", "(%%d+)")
23:47.05DARKGuyXuerian got a 3 XD combo!
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23:47.19XuerianDARKGuy: And vhaarr pulled a c-c-c-combo breaker :(
23:47.44vhaarrDARKGuy would have done it anyway!
23:47.48dibsHello guys. I have a question: How do you update CandyBar with a new time? Just SetCandyBarTime(), and it should renew? 'cause it doesnt really work for me :-(
23:47.48DARKGuyXD
23:47.50vhaarror wait
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23:48.03XuerianNo, he commented on the fact that the combo was over >:O
23:48.13DARKGuyby you >:O
23:48.57sdoubleXd
23:49.10vhaarrdibs: :SetCandyBarTimeLeft ?
23:49.59dibsthat will renew the bar with the new time?
23:50.01Xuerianvhaarr: Haha yeah, I'll see what I can do with it. It'll probably make the gold handling code in xloot itself cleaner too
23:50.11vhaarrdibs: I'm not sure what you need, you will have to explain yourself better
23:51.11vhaarrXuerian: I was looking at SELoot a few days ago and thinking that there must be some better way to do things
23:51.18vhaarrbut maybe there isn't
23:51.25Xuerianvhaarr: The gold code or the whole thing?
23:51.28dibsSorry. I'm trying to make an addon that can show me bars for battle/commanding shouts. It works fine, but if I let the buff run down to 1 minute, and recasts it, it doesn't renew the timer (to 2 minutes), with a bit of luck it can add a couple of seconds, but not full duration
23:52.05dibsIf that made any sense... :-)
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23:52.28vhaarrXuerian: I don't remember, I think it was just a first impression caused by some spelling error at the top
23:52.31vhaarrignore it
23:52.35vhaarrdibs: yes, that's better
23:52.46vhaarrdibs: you want :SetCandyBarTimeLeft then
23:52.50DARKGuyman I'm glad to have lived since the MS-DOS 6.22 times. Deleting the config file for jWoWUpdater did it :P
23:52.54vhaarr:SetCandyBarTimeLeft(barName, time)
23:53.04dibsThank you!
23:54.01vhaarrXuerian: yeah, "Group loot events willl not ..."
23:54.18vhaarrXuerian: and the fact that you require AceConsole-2.0 for the library just for *that* print
23:54.27Xuerianvhaarr: I'm lazy -_-
23:54.30vhaarr:P
23:54.39DARKGuyDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage ftw?
23:54.44XuerianTbh though
23:54.45dibsStill doesn't work as intended.. And I'm 100% sure I got it all right now :(
23:54.48XuerianXloot uses console
23:54.58XuerianSo SEEL as it stands will always be alongside that uses it anyway
23:55.01DARKGuyXloot is pure win, I love it
23:55.13vhaarrXuerian: how is that relevant :P
23:55.14XuerianDARKGuy: It's horrible code that makes me want to blow up, really. At least AnchorsAway is
23:55.15vhaarrl2p
23:55.20Xuerianvhaarr: l2lazy
23:55.23vhaarr^^
23:55.41XuerianIt might not be as bad as BonusScanner but damn I don't know how or why it still works
23:55.48XuerianThus Tekkub re-writing Group
23:55.54DARKGuyXuerian, AnchorsAway's code is ugly? I don't really look at every addon's code I install :P
23:56.02XuerianDARKGuy: take a peek
23:56.10vhaarrI do, that's why I made all these addons
23:56.19vhaarrbecause the original addon I wanted to use made me sick
23:56.24Xuerianlol
23:56.40DARKGuyupdaters should have a way to look for Addon Author, what are your addons vhaarr ? :P
23:56.57XuerianAlso, you should look for Rabbit, not Vharr.
23:56.59vhaarrDARKGuy: anything you haven't heard of before
23:57.34vhaarrDARKGuy: install LifePercent, if you like it, try some of my other stuff
23:57.42DARKGuy*tries*
23:57.49vhaarr(it's a trick, noone likes that addon)
23:57.55DARKGuyxD
23:58.16DARKGuyWell I'm tempted to make an email checker addon because the current ones suck
23:58.30Gnarfozmailfu <3
23:58.34DARKGuyyeah...
23:58.37Gnarfozalso: LifePercent is made of win
23:58.38DARKGuybut it requires fubar D:
23:58.42XuerianI'd like to see the "New mail from...." thing
23:58.48DARKGuyI'd love mailfu without the fu
23:59.20*** part/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@91-113-17-211.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
23:59.24DARKGuyXuerian, as huge as the Thunderbird popup? :P
23:59.28dylanmI'm not sure you can make one that's really accurate.
23:59.32dibsvhaarr: Allright, thanks, - it works now. And to make more bars at the same time, I will have to register a group and add the bars to it? (To not get them atop of eachother)
23:59.35Gnarfozmailfu, like most fubar-plugins, doesn't require fubar, I'd guess
23:59.38XuerianDARKGuy: Ugh, I hate mozilla's popups
23:59.40dylanmOh my, there's no mail StatBlock?
23:59.46vhaarrdibs: yeah

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