| 00:00.03 | vhaarr | so if you have a spell with no extra cooldown on action bar 1, button 1, you can check if there is a GCD with |GetActionCooldown(1)| |
| 00:00.19 | vhaarr | |if GetActionCooldown(1) == 0 then --[[ no GCD ]] end| |
| 00:00.23 | vhaarr | Poul|Raider: ^ |
| 00:03.20 | Xinhuan | note that this isn't technically very accurate |
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| 00:03.34 | Xinhuan | since a spell/item can be on cooldown for a variety of reasons |
| 00:03.39 | Xinhuan | and not just GCD |
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| 00:04.21 | Xinhuan | at least, for determination if an action is on GCD, or just standard cooldowns, or school lockout |
| 00:07.02 | Dashkal | How difficult would it be to make a LibBars addon that tracks the actual cooldown for a specific set of spells? |
| 00:07.17 | CIA-41 | 03Footrot * r73155 10GhostPulse/ (sounds/ReadMe.txt textures/ReadMe.txt): |
| 00:07.17 | CIA-41 | GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-09 |
| 00:07.17 | CIA-41 | - Added ReadMe.txts to the 'sounds' and 'textures' folder so the folders are actually created with the correct case and to give extra information on how to use them. |
| 00:07.53 | Xelopheris | Any idea why my guild leader's omen/threat-2.0 takes 30 seconds to give updates sometimes? |
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| 00:08.38 | Xinhuan | he's lagging |
| 00:08.40 | Xinhuan | :) |
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| 00:08.50 | Xelopheris | definitely not |
| 00:08.58 | Xinhuan | or using too many addons that uses addon communication, so they are getting throttled |
| 00:09.13 | vhaarr | he'd have to use a lot then |
| 00:09.25 | vhaarr | but yeah DMM and the like spam like there's no tomorrow |
| 00:10.14 | aestil | DMM? |
| 00:10.15 | Footrot | Hey all. I'm having some hassles with my mod blowing up when profiles are reset (using Waterfall). Is there a decent resource somewhere that I can use to figure out the best way to re-install default profile options so prevent the errors? |
| 00:10.17 | Xinhuan | damage meters, threat meters, boss mods, hot/dot timers, ressing sync meters, healing sych comms like visualheal, Rock talent sending |
| 00:10.25 | Xinhuan | is just a bunch of educated guesses |
| 00:10.31 | Xinhuan | and there's more! |
| 00:10.31 | vhaarr | BigWigs doesn't send a lot of addon comms. |
| 00:10.38 | vhaarr | DBM is waaaaay more spammy. |
| 00:10.41 | Xinhuan | raid frames usually communicate as well |
| 00:10.51 | Xinhuan | depending on which raid frames it is |
| 00:10.57 | vhaarr | Violation does no addon comm either. |
| 00:11.06 | aestil | visual heal and omen don't seem like they could possibly saturate the comm |
| 00:11.14 | aestil | does recount use comms? |
| 00:11.25 | vhaarr | afaik, all damage meters except Violation does |
| 00:11.28 | Xelopheris | dmm = ? |
| 00:11.30 | Funkeh` | I think recount uses comms when needed |
| 00:11.30 | Xinhuan | well what if you added up all those things together, maybe he is even using BOTH ktm and omen, and 3 damage meters at the same time? ;d |
| 00:11.31 | vhaarr | damagemeters |
| 00:11.33 | Xelopheris | Damage Meter Mods? |
| 00:11.34 | Xelopheris | k |
| 00:11.44 | Xinhuan | there ARE people like that |
| 00:11.46 | Funkeh` | only to people out of range or something |
| 00:11.49 | aestil | is KTM still polling? |
| 00:11.55 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 00:11.57 | Xinhuan | assuambly so |
| 00:12.04 | aestil | and people still use it? |
| 00:12.10 | Xinhuan | there's a bunch of ppl that switched to KTM away from Omen |
| 00:12.18 | Xinhuan | in 2.4 because of stability issues and backwards compat |
| 00:12.30 | Xinhuan | and their general comments has been that ktm is far more accurate |
| 00:12.40 | Xinhuan | or stable |
| 00:12.41 | Xelopheris | ktm still a resourcehog? |
| 00:12.43 | Xinhuan | even if it uses more cpu |
| 00:13.07 | Xinhuan | interestingly, Omen is now seen as a resource hog |
| 00:13.14 | Dashkal | O.o |
| 00:13.18 | vhaarr | that guy could make the UI for WotLK and I wouldn't use it even then |
| 00:13.22 | Xinhuan | because of a few memory leak issues which me/nev fixed |
| 00:13.30 | Xinhuan | like last few days |
| 00:13.59 | Funkeh` | I've always seen omen as a resource hog |
| 00:14.02 | Funkeh` | even before 2.4 |
| 00:14.09 | Xinhuan | now mind you, omen is still using far more resources than necessary, due to its complicated metatables for accessing indexing, and its module based system for retrieving/adding bars |
| 00:14.10 | Funkeh` | when I ussed assessment for threat viewing |
| 00:14.22 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73156 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: Pre 2.0 beta with all URL's currently commented out, I don't suggest updating until stable. Please report full missed lines on the forum post. Fixed manual reporting displaying wrong name. |
| 00:14.28 | vhaarr | that module system is total nonsense |
| 00:14.28 | Xinhuan | whole thing should just be rewritten to use 1/2 the CPU it currently does now |
| 00:14.43 | vhaarr | aeo mode, give me a break |
| 00:15.11 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: so where's the Violation module for threat, do I have to whip you? |
| 00:15.26 | Xinhuan | omen on a whole, is using 450-500kb ram, that's without counting the threat-2.0 backend |
| 00:15.29 | Funkeh` | that would require me to no be lazy :( |
| 00:15.40 | Xinhuan | this could be reduced to 100kb in all honesty |
| 00:15.58 | aestil | ckk, please make it so escape closes cart3 map. |
| 00:16.01 | Xinhuan | seeing as i've read the whole omen code inside out a few times |
| 00:16.24 | Xinhuan | there's extra function calls everywhere that are unnecessary due to the module system |
| 00:16.42 | vhaarr | and the option stuff |
| 00:16.44 | vhaarr | :GetOption? |
| 00:16.57 | Xinhuan | that is pretty silly too |
| 00:16.59 | JoshBorke | blah blah blah, i'm a dirty whore |
| 00:17.14 | Xinhuan | but in all honesty, that part isn't very expensive, as its rarely called, and its cached |
| 00:17.15 | Dashkal | Meh, I need to stop being lazy and write a dead simple threat bar for current target(or target of target if friendly) and a second for focus. Poof omen and just keep Threat |
| 00:17.56 | Xinhuan | just don't like the metatable and idnexing function + recursive hoops it has to jump thru |
| 00:18.00 | Xinhuan | just to get a single option |
| 00:18.05 | Xinhuan | (which then gets cached) |
| 00:18.15 | Ganders | were the rumors that blizz was implementing a threat meter into the default ui false? |
| 00:18.24 | Xinhuan | they were not false |
| 00:18.25 | Dashkal | Not false, that's WotLK stuff |
| 00:18.29 | Ganders | oh |
| 00:18.46 | Xinhuan | they were intended for woltk, but not really, its just "planned" but they never told us if it will be implemented |
| 00:18.59 | Xinhuan | "planned" not equal "implemented" |
| 00:19.14 | Xelopheris | thinking about != planned |
| 00:19.21 | Xinhuan | they were clearly just throwing out ideas in blizzcon |
| 00:19.24 | Xinhuan | and seeing the response |
| 00:19.30 | Xelopheris | making people happy |
| 00:19.36 | Dashkal | be nice if they at least obsoleted Threat-2.0, even if they don't do much in the way of an actual threat meter |
| 00:19.53 | Xelopheris | keeping second threat is so hard sometimes |
| 00:20.15 | Xinhuan | also, might i mention that Charon and me have concluded that the pet module in Threat-2.0 is flawed |
| 00:20.22 | Xinhuan | and probably needs a full rewrite |
| 00:20.45 | Xinhuan | the module is based on the module core, and is based entirely the player having only 1 pet/guardian |
| 00:21.02 | Xinhuan | meaning, if you have more, threat's going to screw up |
| 00:21.04 | Xelopheris | So that effectes doomkins only then? |
| 00:21.13 | Xelopheris | or anyone with a pet trinket |
| 00:21.15 | Dashkal | mechanical chicken |
| 00:21.15 | Xinhuan | oh not just boomkins (their threat) |
| 00:21.22 | Xinhuan | yeah but anyone with a extra trinket pet |
| 00:21.33 | Xelopheris | does it only inflate the pet aggro? |
| 00:21.33 | Xinhuan | or summons say shadowfiend |
| 00:21.38 | Xinhuan | their threats don't get cleared in the tables |
| 00:21.50 | Xinhuan | they get recorded but they never really get purged |
| 00:22.01 | Xelopheris | wtb ability to purge one bar |
| 00:22.11 | Xinhuan | so technically that's another "leak" of sorts |
| 00:22.22 | Xinhuan | another thing is that Threat-2.0 records a GUID-Name lookup table |
| 00:22.29 | Xinhuan | this table grows over time until reloadUI |
| 00:22.36 | Xinhuan | for every combatlog event |
| 00:23.04 | Xinhuan | the table isn't emptied, nor removed for mobs that died |
| 00:23.12 | Dashkal | It doesn't at least retire a GUID on unit death? |
| 00:23.14 | Dashkal | ouch |
| 00:23.31 | Xinhuan | nope, because a dead unit could potentially still be accessed in the htreat tables |
| 00:23.45 | Dashkal | O.o If it's dead, the threat is now irelevant |
| 00:23.48 | Xinhuan | pets noticably |
| 00:23.50 | Yssaril | what was the lua command to dump a function to a string? (and yes i know id doesn't work in WoW) |
| 00:24.04 | Xinhuan | do not have their threat dumped properly |
| 00:24.09 | Xinhuan | hunter pets in paritcular |
| 00:24.10 | Dashkal | At least I was under the impression that a pet's threat was reset when it died |
| 00:24.23 | Xinhuan | i dont' mean the pet's threat when the pet dies |
| 00:24.24 | Dashkal | same effect as an ankh in terms of threat |
| 00:24.29 | Xinhuan | i mean the pet's threat when a MOB dies |
| 00:24.37 | Xinhuan | the threat on that pet on that mob that died isn't cleared |
| 00:24.55 | Xinhuan | so if you still targetted the mob's corpse, omen still shows you there's units with threat on it |
| 00:25.08 | Xinhuan | all these shadow fiends, ravagers, grinches, and treants |
| 00:25.15 | Dashkal | the mob's threat against the pet (making the pet angry for purposes of defensive mode) or the pet's threat on the mob? |
| 00:25.27 | Xinhuan | pet's threat value on mob |
| 00:25.30 | Xelopheris | Don't think anyone's ever measured mob threat |
| 00:25.49 | NeoTron | as much as I hate KTM, Omen has been really quirky since 2.4 |
| 00:25.55 | Xinhuan | it isn't actually cleared properly |
| 00:25.57 | Dashkal | That would actually be kind of handy when tanking multiple mobs :p |
| 00:25.57 | KriLL3 | how can an addon cause wow crashes out of the blue? |
| 00:26.13 | Xinhuan | or rather, threat isn't notifying omen about pet threat being cleared |
| 00:26.14 | Xelopheris | a lot of them |
| 00:26.17 | Xinhuan | and the pet module is the issue |
| 00:26.17 | Ganders | stack overflows? |
| 00:26.18 | NeoTron | seems to often be essentially entirely wrong and unreliable to the degree that you need to use "feeling" again |
| 00:26.47 | KriLL3 | it's not been an issue before, it haven't been updated in a couple of weeks, and now over night if I got it running wow almost instantly crashes |
| 00:27.06 | KriLL3 | I just can't see why it would go mental all of a sudden |
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| 00:27.40 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73157 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: tweak |
| 00:29.47 | Ganders | anyone know why a lua file just wouldn't load? |
| 00:29.49 | Ganders | addon is enabled |
| 00:29.52 | Ganders | file's in the TOC |
| 00:30.06 | Ganders | but when all its global functions = nil |
| 00:30.12 | Ganders | *all its |
| 00:30.17 | Allara | Ganders: most likely a syntax error |
| 00:30.18 | Ganders | and its not doing anything either =/ |
| 00:30.22 | Ganders | in the toc? |
| 00:30.25 | Allara | in the lua |
| 00:30.49 | Allara | use luac to parse it beforehand, WoW will swallow errors and fail to load the file |
| 00:30.54 | Funkeh` | or you didn't restart wow after editing the toc |
| 00:30.59 | Ganders | i did |
| 00:31.04 | Ganders | and what's luac? |
| 00:31.08 | Xinhuan | you spelt the filename wrong |
| 00:31.09 | Allara | www.lua.org |
| 00:31.21 | Ganders | well it's not my addon |
| 00:31.21 | Xinhuan | wrong capitilaztion maybe |
| 00:31.25 | Ganders | i was modifying stunwatch |
| 00:31.26 | Allara | gotcha |
| 00:31.31 | Ganders | i didnt change any of the filenames |
| 00:31.37 | Ganders | just added / removed a few lines |
| 00:31.37 | Xinhuan | what did yu change then |
| 00:32.03 | Xinhuan | adding/removing a few lines could be sufficient to break an entire addon if you removed a stray bracket or bracers |
| 00:32.03 | Ganders | added an OptionalDeps line in the TOC, and changed the event handling |
| 00:32.16 | Xinhuan | anyway, go check Logs\FrameXML.log |
| 00:32.20 | Xinhuan | and look for that addon |
| 00:32.22 | Xinhuan | in it |
| 00:32.23 | KriLL3 | I like opening up addons and removing random bits |
| 00:32.24 | Xinhuan | and see what it says |
| 00:32.38 | Ganders | ahh |
| 00:32.40 | Ganders | yup |
| 00:32.45 | Ganders | 5/8 19:17:05.960 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\StunWatch\StunWatch.toc |
| 00:33.30 | Ganders | cool, didn't even know that existed |
| 00:33.37 | Ganders | thanks |
| 00:34.12 | Xinhuan | so what went wrong |
| 00:34.44 | Ganders | had one too many "end"s on a function |
| 00:34.51 | Ganders | i screwed up on the indentations, and that threw me off |
| 00:35.12 | Xinhuan | told you, its probably an extra or missing "block marker" |
| 00:35.13 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 00:35.28 | Allara | yeah ganders, luac -p will solve that for you, just run that in a bat file before you test, it'll save you tons of grief |
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| 00:44.33 | Silverstorm | so...I should get luac for 5.1.1? |
| 00:46.02 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73158 10AutoBar/ (4 files): |
| 00:46.02 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 00:46.02 | CIA-41 | -- Expose the hide attribute of a Bar. This is what gets toggled on when you are in Move Buttons mode and click a bar from green to red. |
| 00:46.40 | Allara | I just use the latest: http://luaforge.net/frs/download.php/3134/lua5_1_3_Win32_bin.zip |
| 00:47.29 | Dashkal | More important would be what version of lua is wow currently running? |
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| 00:48.14 | Ganders | is there a readme or documentation for that Allara? |
| 00:48.25 | Silverstorm | I know they're on 5.1. Not sure what revision, though. Guessing 5.1.1 since that's about when they were developing BC |
| 00:48.27 | Allara | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua - says a subset of 5.1 |
| 00:48.49 | Footrot | WoW is on 5.1.1 I believe - hasn't changed since 2.0 of WoW, so whatever it was then. |
| 00:48.58 | Allara | Ganders: Go to http://www.lua.org and click on Documentation, there's a manual to read - or try wowwiki |
| 00:49.26 | Allara | as far as how to use luac.exe, just open a command prompt and type luac, it'll tell you what parameters it accepts |
| 00:50.08 | CIA-41 | 03Chingerayl * r73159 10DailyQuestViewer/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:50.08 | CIA-41 | DailyQuestViewer: |
| 00:50.08 | CIA-41 | - Added tooltip explaining whether your version is compatible or not to version check. |
| 00:51.40 | Ganders | Allara: From the zip you linked i'm trying to open luac5.1.exe, but all that's happening is a command-prompt looking window pops up for a second and then disappears |
| 00:52.03 | NeoTron | Toadkiller: so what's up with autobar using so much cpu, ever profiled it? |
| 00:52.05 | Silverstorm | you have to open a command prompt and run it from there |
| 00:52.07 | Allara | it's a command line program, you need to get familiar with how to use the command prompt in windows |
| 00:53.31 | Ganders | oh, so where do I unzip it too? |
| 00:53.43 | NivFreak | chiper: ok |
| 00:53.52 | NivFreak | so trinitybars 2 is clearly better |
| 00:53.53 | NivFreak | but omfg |
| 00:53.57 | NivFreak | still a pita to configure :) |
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| 00:54.07 | Allara | ganders: wherever you want, really :) |
| 00:55.23 | NivFreak | chiper: how do I stop these from using the blizzard bars? |
| 00:55.32 | Ganders | typing luac in the command prompt just shows up saying 'luac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, etc. |
| 00:55.36 | Ganders | sorry, I suck at this =( |
| 00:56.00 | durcyn | is it in your path |
| 00:56.21 | NivFreak | oh wait, I see |
| 00:56.22 | NeoTron | NivFreak: trinitybars a pita to configure? it was when I tried it supereasy? |
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| 00:56.38 | NeoTron | I swapped to bartender because I had an issue, mid-ZA raid, wheer trinitybars lost its config. :P |
| 00:56.47 | CIA-41 | 03Footrot * r73160 10GhostPulse/ (Core.lua Events.lua): |
| 00:56.47 | CIA-41 | GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-09 |
| 00:56.47 | CIA-41 | - Fixed problems with resetting the profile. |
| 00:58.30 | Dashkal | Ganders: The simplest way is to just have your lua folder right under c:\ This way from the command prompt you can type c: then cd c:\lua_5.1 (or whatever the folder is called). Then you can type luac. A better way would be to get the folder containing luac in your path, but the exact method of doing that varies with your version of windows. |
| 00:59.24 | Dashkal | woot, 6pm. time to go home |
| 00:59.40 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I'm starting to like tb2, it's just a very different concept |
| 00:59.46 | NivFreak | very configurable |
| 00:59.53 | Dashkal | Ganders: no time to talk you through the process, but you can usually get at your path settings through your system properties (right-click My Computer and "properties") |
| 01:00.36 | Silverstorm | hmm, I'm getting errors from the first line of any file I try..."unexpected symbol near [upside down U looking-thingy]" |
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| 01:01.14 | Ganders | ya i used to get taht |
| 01:01.28 | Ganders | turns out my problem was that I had orginally typed the code as a .txt |
| 01:01.31 | Ganders | then resaved it as a .lua |
| 01:01.39 | Ganders | copy-pasting it to a new file fixed it though |
| 01:01.44 | Ganders | and thanks Dashkal |
| 01:02.11 | Silverstorm | well, this is happening even if I try an established addon that WAU updated for me |
| 01:02.17 | NeoTron | I liked the configurabily of bars better |
| 01:02.28 | NeoTron | so I can use 1 bar instead of 4 for example |
| 01:02.41 | NeoTron | not to mention key binding by mousing over the button and pressing the key |
| 01:02.58 | kergoth | <3 bongos3 |
| 01:03.13 | NeoTron | but that was trinitybars 1 I gather |
| 01:04.46 | Silverstorm | NeoTron: BT4 has mouseover keybinds, if I understand the thread correctly |
| 01:05.38 | NeoTron | hmm. seems TB2 has quite a few more features |
| 01:06.50 | NeoTron | Silverstorm: still limited to 12 buttons per bar? |
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| 01:10.08 | Allara | silverstorm: luac has issues with unicode it seems |
| 01:11.22 | Xinhuan | silverstorm, luac doesn't like the BOM header in some utf8 files ;p |
| 01:11.30 | Xinhuan | its a 3-byte sequence, go google it up |
| 01:11.33 | Xinhuan | or wikipedia |
| 01:11.40 | Ackis | is there a way to set icons of a macro (using default ui)? and can those icons be ones that aren't in the "list" |
| 01:11.57 | Jaxon | Ackis: yeah, there is a way to add your own textures to that list, I just don't remember how |
| 01:12.11 | Xinhuan | ackis, only by using #show <insert item/spell of icon> |
| 01:12.20 | Xinhuan | otherwise no |
| 01:12.40 | Xinhuan | i.e #show Reincarnation /cast Reincarnation |
| 01:12.45 | Ackis | Ok so I can make a macro to use a conjured protection potion with the #show Protection Potion command... nice |
| 01:12.51 | Xinhuan | is a macro that will show you the cooldown + tooltip of Reincarnation (a talent) |
| 01:13.02 | Xinhuan | no need for AnkhFu or whatever shamans use |
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| 01:13.27 | Xinhuan | you don't even need the spellname/itemname |
| 01:13.32 | Xinhuan | #show is usually enough by itself |
| 01:13.41 | Xinhuan | it will default to the first spell/item detected in the macro |
| 01:13.51 | Xinhuan | so you only need to explicitly #show <some spell/item> |
| 01:14.08 | Xinhuan | if you want it to show a spell/item that isn't the first spell/item in the macro (say Pom/Pyro) |
| 01:14.27 | Xinhuan | #show also accepts the standard [] modifiers |
| 01:14.55 | Xinhuan | such as #show [mod:alt] AutoShot; [mod:ctrl] Aimed Shot; Attack |
| 01:15.17 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.51 | Xinhuan | by default #show defaults to the first /cast or /use line |
| 01:15.58 | Xinhuan | to be more specific |
| 01:16.15 | Ackis | so without testing, will: #show;/use item:32845;/use item:22846 |
| 01:16.34 | Jaxon | That'll always show the first one |
| 01:16.36 | Ackis | will that use the conjured potion first then the crafted one? |
| 01:16.50 | Jaxon | That will always try to use the first and fail when pressed again |
| 01:16.51 | Jaxon | you want |
| 01:17.13 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.02 | Ackis | The icon still doesn't change |
| 01:18.17 | Jaxon | Did you push it? |
| 01:18.28 | Aiiane | are you using the ? icon from the select menu? |
| 01:18.36 | Ackis | no I'm not |
| 01:18.50 | Aiiane | I've never bothered with #show, just select the ? icon and it should auto-update |
| 01:18.51 | Ackis | that fixed it sweet |
| 01:19.37 | Ackis | so with that castsequence I'll have to run it twice if I don't have a conjured potion? |
| 01:20.27 | Ackis | <-- trying to clean up the buttons I have a bit heh |
| 01:20.43 | Jaxon | It'll try to use the first and fail. |
| 01:21.26 | Ackis | that seems to be the behaviour w/o the castsequence however |
| 01:21.43 | Jaxon | I don't know, I don't use castsequence macros for potions |
| 01:21.47 | Aiiane | um |
| 01:21.58 | Aiiane | dont use castsequence if you want to try the first, and the second if its not available |
| 01:22.07 | Aiiane | since it'll fall through if you just have two regular /use's |
| 01:22.17 | Ackis | ie: #showtooltip Master Healthstone;/use item:22105;/use item:22104;/use item:22103 will use the largest first etc |
| 01:22.35 | Ackis | aye |
| 01:22.58 | NivFreak | yes, but it only seems to show one healthstone for the icon :) |
| 01:23.05 | NivFreak | which is anoying if you're trying to watch the CD |
| 01:23.06 | Ackis | yah not worried about that :) |
| 01:23.10 | Aiiane | yes, that's just a limitation of the system |
| 01:23.21 | Ackis | NivFreak: do you have a better suggestion though? |
| 01:23.28 | NivFreak | nope |
| 01:23.29 | NivFreak | sadly |
| 01:23.39 | NivFreak | I'm hoping cooldownbuttons will solve that problem for me |
| 01:23.43 | NivFreak | it looks sweet |
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| 01:25.51 | Ackis | consumables ftw |
| 01:25.52 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:27.31 | Ackis | now I wonder if I can get rid of a button for my mana biscuits/conjured water/bought water heh |
| 01:27.36 | aestil | the guy that made numen made an autobar type mod, right? |
| 01:27.38 | chiper | niv: TB2 can be a bit confusing at first, but it's very configurable |
| 01:27.52 | chiper | I've been quite pleased with it |
| 01:28.21 | Aiiane | Ackis: pretty sure you can |
| 01:28.47 | Jaxon | Ackis: look up Tekkub's Buffet addon |
| 01:29.05 | Aiiane | why use an addon when a macro will suffice, for something simple like that? :) |
| 01:29.08 | Ackis | Tekkub scares me! :o |
| 01:29.13 | Jaxon | Look at it |
| 01:29.15 | Jaxon | JUST DO IT |
| 01:29.23 | Ackis | omg it's not on wowace! |
| 01:30.06 | Jaxon | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8370-Buffet.html |
| 01:30.28 | Ackis | oh I was already looking thanks however :) |
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| 01:30.41 | Ackis | was being a bit sarcastic about it being on wowace hehe |
| 01:30.49 | vhaarr | git://github.com/tekkub/buffet.git |
| 01:31.37 | NivFreak | chiper: yea, it looks like the initial configuration is a bit strange, but I'm already getting a good grasp on it |
| 01:31.44 | NivFreak | chiper: how is it for long term stability? |
| 01:31.54 | Xelopheris | <3 having no resto druids in raid, and a prot pally. Enough blessings that I even get sanctuary! |
| 01:32.07 | NivFreak | who cares about BoSanc? |
| 01:32.07 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 01:32.09 | chiper | been pretty good. I have had a couple issues with keybindings, but nothing show stopping |
| 01:32.19 | NivFreak | chiper: what kind of issues? |
| 01:32.31 | NivFreak | I accidently rebound half my keyboard figuring them out |
| 01:32.32 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 01:32.45 | Ackis | ahh buffet is like ihml in that it changes macro's on the fly... but not in combat |
| 01:32.48 | NivFreak | I'd be nice if it warned before unbinding something |
| 01:32.56 | Jaxon | Ackis: because you can't change macros in combat |
| 01:33.01 | chiper | it once doubled a key assignment, I had to edit the keybindings file manually to fix it |
| 01:33.05 | Ackis | Jaxon: I know =/ |
| 01:33.17 | NivFreak | chiper: I still haven't figured out how to bind two keys to the same button |
| 01:33.18 | Jaxon | Ackis: but one buttone will be mana pots in combat, water out of combat |
| 01:33.25 | chiper | NivFreak: I dont think you can |
| 01:33.29 | NivFreak | =/ |
| 01:33.33 | NivFreak | serious? |
| 01:33.36 | NivFreak | that would be a show stopper |
| 01:33.37 | aestil | is there a newish autobar type mod? |
| 01:33.49 | Ackis | I was trying to do something that would change from jumping to stopcasting when combat started, but that was an issue... i suppose I could tie into bigwigs boss mods however... hmmm |
| 01:33.56 | NivFreak | Also, they keybindings with pages bars seem buggy |
| 01:34.04 | chiper | *shrug* I usually have a harder time finding keys on my keyboard to use |
| 01:34.17 | chiper | yes, you have to redo the keys for each page |
| 01:34.29 | NivFreak | the first thing I bound went to all pages. After that I had to rebind each page if I changed it |
| 01:34.43 | NivFreak | chiper: I bind both 7 and ` to my interrupt |
| 01:34.52 | NivFreak | I also bind mouse buttons + keys for taunt |
| 01:35.01 | NivFreak | fears/dispells on my priest |
| 01:35.03 | NivFreak | etc etc |
| 01:35.25 | chiper | open your spellbook |
| 01:35.35 | chiper | you can assign keys to specific spells in addition to bar buttons |
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| 01:36.00 | Aiiane | you can assign 2 keys to each button, can't you? |
| 01:36.03 | Aiiane | in keybindings |
| 01:36.22 | chiper | Tb2 doesn't add fields to the keybindings |
| 01:36.33 | aestil | ~tb2 |
| 01:36.35 | chiper | it manages them itself |
| 01:36.49 | Aiiane | what is tb2? |
| 01:37.00 | chiper | trinity bars 2 |
| 01:37.06 | Aiiane | ic |
| 01:37.08 | aestil | ah. |
| 01:37.20 | aestil | wow, i havn't used trinity for a really long time |
| 01:37.36 | NivFreak | It seems to have potential for what I want |
| 01:37.58 | Aiiane | shrugs |
| 01:38.04 | Aiiane | bartender has sufficed for my needs |
| 01:38.21 | NivFreak | I love bt3 |
| 01:38.28 | NivFreak | just find myself limited by the number of bars/buttons |
| 01:38.44 | chiper | tb2 is what I used here http://gallery.chipersoft.com/v/WoW/WoWScrnShot_050208_215008.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
| 01:38.46 | aestil | waaaaaah? |
| 01:38.46 | NivFreak | and the extended length macros in tb2 are very intersting |
| 01:38.50 | Aiiane | I find ways of optimizing the # of buttons I use :) |
| 01:38.57 | aestil | there's like....... 120 buttons? |
| 01:39.06 | aestil | how could that not be enough, even for druids? |
| 01:39.07 | NivFreak | aestil: 144 I think |
| 01:39.08 | Nandini | i can't imagine using more than my usual 25 buttons, let alone all 120 possible buttons |
| 01:39.18 | Aiiane | On my warlock, I only use 4-5 bars worth of buttons |
| 01:39.19 | NivFreak | or wait |
| 01:39.21 | NivFreak | 120, you're right |
| 01:39.25 | aestil | if you're a druid, you need more. |
| 01:39.27 | NivFreak | I'm a warrior |
| 01:39.29 | Nandini | i'm a druid |
| 01:39.34 | NivFreak | I have 3 bars used for stances |
| 01:39.38 | NivFreak | use a 4th for boss tanking |
| 01:39.52 | aestil | 120 is 10 bars. |
| 01:39.55 | NivFreak | yep |
| 01:40.04 | NivFreak | so I get 6 bars to work with |
| 01:40.11 | Nandini | i have 4 bars used for stances, 5 static buttons in another bar, and 8 in another static bar |
| 01:40.16 | aestil | i essentailly use 5 bars with a bar of 9 set up for random consumables and stuff. |
| 01:40.16 | vhaarr | I'm a prot warrior, I use 2 bars oO |
| 01:40.26 | NivFreak | vhaarr: hah |
| 01:40.26 | aestil | vhaarr, you have more than that. |
| 01:40.26 | Nandini | yup i use 6 total, but never more than 25 buttons on my screen |
| 01:40.28 | aestil | each stance is a bar. |
| 01:40.44 | Aiiane | I don't have specific bars for specific things. |
| 01:40.52 | vhaarr | aestil: the only things I use in battle stance is charge and mocking blow, in zerker stance I use berserker rage and intercept |
| 01:41.00 | Ackis | ahahah that changing the macro's to the ? has caused me to change all my macros kekekek |
| 01:41.06 | Aiiane | heh Ack |
| 01:41.22 | aestil | vhaarr, i didn't say you used each button on each bar regularly. |
| 01:41.29 | aestil | but when you change stances you get a new bar. |
| 01:41.33 | vhaarr | aestil: maybe you do |
| 01:41.34 | vhaarr | I don't |
| 01:41.55 | NivFreak | heh |
| 01:42.01 | Nandini | you can configure it that way if you want, on my warrior, i place "similar" skills from different stances in the same spot on different bars |
| 01:42.11 | NivFreak | I don't have things macro'd in a way that would let me not use a new bar per stance |
| 01:42.25 | NivFreak | Nandini: same |
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| 01:42.45 | aestil | is there a new autobar? |
| 01:42.50 | NivFreak | I also macro things so that if I pop out of dstance while tanking, my rotation puts me back into dstance |
| 01:42.52 | aestil | something that isn't autobar, but is like it? |
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| 01:42.56 | NivFreak | for those whoops I switched stance moments |
| 01:42.58 | Jaxon | PT3Bar? |
| 01:43.07 | aestil | no, not just for items. |
| 01:43.17 | aestil | for stuff like stances and aspects and everything. like autobar. |
| 01:43.26 | vhaarr | I use two macros; the first one activates my two trinket slots Use effects, the second one Devastates my mouseover target |
| 01:43.39 | Ackis | does anyone get weird values for GetManaRegen? |
| 01:43.42 | aestil | what content are you on? |
| 01:43.56 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I have one open macro slot |
| 01:43.57 | NivFreak | :P |
| 01:44.05 | vhaarr | MH+BT, blocked at mother shaz because we lack hearts for resistance gear |
| 01:44.09 | NivFreak | I use lots of simple macros to control stance |
| 01:44.18 | aestil | vhaarr: i hate that phase of raid progression |
| 01:44.26 | aestil | because you'll run right over mother as soon as you have enough |
| 01:44.30 | vhaarr | we get like 6 hearts per raid |
| 01:44.35 | vhaarr | max |
| 01:44.36 | aestil | btw, you don't need everyone to be 100% to progress. |
| 01:44.40 | NivFreak | We got zero hearts in BT last night |
| 01:44.42 | vhaarr | I know, thank you |
| 01:44.43 | NivFreak | and 12 epic gems |
| 01:44.49 | NivFreak | and only went to akama |
| 01:44.54 | Gagorian | Ackis: What do you mean? |
| 01:44.54 | CIA-41 | 03durcyn 07Morgalm * r73161 10Incubator/Core.lua: Fix twin eredar trash timers |
| 01:44.57 | Gagorian | It's mana per second |
| 01:45.02 | aestil | vhaarr: it was discouraging for us when we hit that wall. |
| 01:45.06 | Gagorian | Affected by drinking and whatever |
| 01:45.10 | Ackis | Doing a GetManaRegen() returns AckisRecipeList: 143.59708459477 62.399822784471 when I'm 717311 right now |
| 01:45.20 | vhaarr | aestil: we have 520 Primal Shadow and 400+ Primal Life in the GB |
| 01:45.30 | vhaarr | aestil: and ALL the other mats to fit *30* people with FULL shadow res gear |
| 01:45.34 | vhaarr | except hearts |
| 01:45.42 | aestil | you can't trade or buy them from a guild thats past it? |
| 01:45.51 | vhaarr | my server doesn't have that kind of economy |
| 01:45.54 | NivFreak | chiper: what's the "no items to drop" fubar plugin? |
| 01:46.02 | chiper | GarbageFu |
| 01:46.07 | Ackis | Gagorian: ahh it *may* be doing regen per tick |
| 01:46.11 | NivFreak | to destroy greys? |
| 01:46.17 | chiper | yup |
| 01:46.25 | NivFreak | sounds moderatly useful |
| 01:46.25 | aestil | old guild bought up all the shadow resist green's on the AH and had about half of the SR gear set up. |
| 01:46.30 | chiper | very |
| 01:46.44 | chiper | especially when farming |
| 01:46.45 | NivFreak | you should ditch your raid bars and install grid imo |
| 01:46.46 | NivFreak | :P |
| 01:46.57 | aestil | then we borrowed hearts from a guild that had just started hyjal |
| 01:47.00 | vhaarr | we even have the materials for leg enchants and +10 SR on cloak, etc for 30 people |
| 01:47.02 | kergoth | Apoco: ping |
| 01:47.05 | aestil | and we returned them as soon as we had the SR |
| 01:47.11 | Olison | At least hide the class icon and color the bar by class, imho :) |
| 01:47.27 | chiper | I didnt really like grid when I used it |
| 01:47.34 | vhaarr | aestil: the reason I rerolled on my current server is because I wanted to get away from hardcore raiding, so this server is perfect, when I rerolled here in december, no guilds had killed Illidan |
| 01:47.45 | Apoco | kergoth; pong |
| 01:47.50 | NivFreak | I'm really used to grid from healing on my priest |
| 01:47.54 | NivFreak | that reminds me |
| 01:48.01 | aestil | vhaarr: yeah. |
| 01:48.09 | chiper | I prefer healbot for my shammy |
| 01:48.11 | NivFreak | my mysterious lag spikes when people zone/connect/disconnect/join raid/etc |
| 01:48.12 | aestil | as soon as i have the ability to make my own schedule |
| 01:48.12 | Aiiane | yeah, i love grid |
| 01:48.15 | NivFreak | they have returned... |
| 01:48.21 | aestil | i would like to try to replicate my old guilds setup. |
| 01:48.23 | aestil | 3 raid nights. |
| 01:48.27 | Aiiane | I use grid for my party frames for 5-mans as well o.o |
| 01:48.28 | aestil | 3 hours a night. |
| 01:48.31 | vhaarr | we have 3 raid nights now |
| 01:48.33 | aestil | wed/sun/mon |
| 01:48.37 | Jaxon | aestil: that is what I'm in right now |
| 01:48.40 | aestil | just a tad bit longer on sun |
| 01:48.45 | aestil | and loot council with no dkp. |
| 01:48.47 | NivFreak | Allara: same |
| 01:48.54 | Jaxon | aestil: you might be in MY GUILD. |
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| 01:48.58 | Jaxon | Except we don't run Monday |
| 01:48.59 | NivFreak | I use pitbull for 4 frames now |
| 01:49.04 | Jaxon | Just Tuesday/Wednesday/Sunday |
| 01:49.07 | NivFreak | player/target/targettarget/focus |
| 01:49.16 | Aiiane | i use pitbul for those frames as well, niv |
| 01:49.20 | Aiiane | but i use grid for party/raid |
| 01:49.23 | NivFreak | yep |
| 01:49.24 | NivFreak | same |
| 01:49.24 | starlon | too much dogtag imo |
| 01:49.25 | kergoth | Apoco: that thing i reported where the feed pet bar vanishes from the short bars group when i recast while about to expired still happens for me, even with it set to transfer back to long at above 10 seconds |
| 01:49.33 | vhaarr | how do I get BT3 to work with ButtonFacade? |
| 01:49.42 | Jaxon | vhaarr: there is an addon in files for it |
| 01:49.46 | Jaxon | Search for bongos3 |
| 01:49.46 | Apoco | kk |
| 01:49.47 | NivFreak | wtf is buttonfacade? |
| 01:49.50 | Apoco | I'll take a look at it. |
| 01:50.01 | Olison | NivFreak: something like cycircled |
| 01:50.09 | NivFreak | also unfamilar |
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| 01:50.13 | vhaarr | that's .. for Bongos3 |
| 01:50.15 | vhaarr | Bartender3 |
| 01:50.18 | vhaarr | is not the same thing |
| 01:50.18 | kergoth | Apoco: thanks |
| 01:50.22 | Jaxon | Oh, no BT3 support |
| 01:50.31 | Jaxon | I read Bongos. BT4 has support for it though |
| 01:50.47 | Olison | NivFreak: re-draws the actionbuttons with 'skins', like glossy |
| 01:50.52 | vhaarr | why would I want to use BT4 when I have my stuff set up with BT3 already |
| 01:50.54 | Olison | or Kittens <3 |
| 01:50.58 | vhaarr | changing bar mods doesn't make any sense |
| 01:51.38 | Jaxon | vhaarr: because it uses ButtonFacade? I have no idea. just that cyCircled forced skins onto the barmods, ButtonFacade requires the mod to have support for it written, meaning when nev wrote BT4, he could implement Facade support? DON'T ASK ME QUESTIONS I DO NOT CARE TO ANSWER. |
| 01:51.53 | *** kick/#wowace [Jaxon!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 01:52.00 | *** join/#wowace Jaxon (n=jaxon@ns2.sjccnet.com) |
| 01:52.02 | Jaxon | PFFFT |
| 01:52.53 | dylanm | vhaarr: I remember the B3_BF thing being pretty simple. |
| 01:53.03 | vhaarr | yeah I'm thinking it is |
| 01:53.14 | dylanm | Probably could write a quick one for BT3 if nevcairiel made the buttons easy to get at. |
| 01:53.34 | kergoth | Jaxon: cycircled needed to support the bar mod too, no different support wise than bf, just that lbf can be embedded if you wanted to be able to switch skins in the addons' ui instead of with the seperate bf addon, and lbf has a much nicer api than cycircled did |
| 01:54.26 | Jaxon | kergoth: I honestly have used cyCircled in a long time, I just remember glancing at it and looking like it forced itself on the one or two barmods it was written for, way-back-when. |
| 01:55.28 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73162 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist |
| 01:56.12 | dylanm | I mean, forcing is what BF_B3 does. But I guess the emphasis is on embedding now. |
| 01:56.27 | Silverstorm | NeoTron: AFAIK, yes, still 12 buttons per bar...but I don't even use more than 6 bars on my lock or druid |
| 01:58.11 | vhaarr | Jaxon: perhaps I wasn't making myself clear; kicking you meant I want you out of this channel |
| 01:58.16 | vhaarr | it does not mean you should rejoin a second later |
| 01:58.20 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=jaxon@*.sjccnet.com] by vhaarr |
| 01:58.21 | *** kick/#wowace [Jaxon!n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr] by vhaarr (vhaarr) |
| 01:58.47 | kergoth | chuckles |
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| 01:59.56 | Ackis | ~round |
| 02:00.14 | Ackis | I missed drama? |
| 02:00.22 | Funkeh` | ok I need a free and simple iso burning software |
| 02:00.25 | Funkeh` | recomendations? |
| 02:00.34 | Ackis | www.thepiratebay.org |
| 02:00.41 | Ackis | :P |
| 02:00.43 | Aiiane | Funkeh`: what OS |
| 02:00.52 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: for windows I think there's an app called imageburn |
| 02:00.53 | Funkeh` | that means I don't want nerobloat Ackis |
| 02:00.56 | DarkElf | imgburn |
| 02:00.59 | vhaarr | imgburn, right |
| 02:01.06 | Funkeh` | hmm, will google that |
| 02:01.09 | vhaarr | freeware, good things |
| 02:01.15 | Ackis | Funkeh`: I really enjoyed Alchohol 120% but now I'm using PowerISO |
| 02:01.46 | Ackis | There seems to be some bloat w/ PowerISO but Alchohol 120% was pretty much just to burn images/virtual drives |
| 02:02.53 | kergoth | imgburn is definately the way to go imo |
| 02:03.02 | Ackis | lua> return roof(55.55) |
| 02:03.02 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'roof' (a nil value) |
| 02:03.08 | Ackis | lua> return math.roof(55.55) |
| 02:03.09 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'roof' (a nil value) |
| 02:03.21 | Ackis | am I stupid? |
| 02:03.33 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:03.36 | Ackis | :( |
| 02:03.39 | Xinhuan | (its math.ceil) |
| 02:03.53 | kergoth | hehe.. roof |
| 02:03.56 | Ackis | lua> return math.ceil(55.55) |
| 02:03.56 | lua_bot | Ackis: 56 |
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| 02:04.14 | Ackis | I had it refered to as roof/floor before |
| 02:04.24 | Xinhuan | you mean ceiling and floor |
| 02:05.14 | Xinhuan | if you are in doubt, just do a /dump math |
| 02:05.22 | DarkElf | http://www.imgburn.com/ |
| 02:05.26 | Xinhuan | or pairs(math) and print out the keys :D |
| 02:05.26 | Silverstorm | lua> return math.ceil(55.55) |
| 02:05.26 | lua_bot | Silverstorm: 56 |
| 02:05.29 | Funkeh` | imgburn looks like the shizzl |
| 02:05.31 | Ackis | I was checking out the wiki but couldn't find it |
| 02:05.31 | Funkeh` | thanks guys |
| 02:05.57 | Silverstorm | lua> return math.ceil(55.55) |
| 02:05.58 | lua_bot | Silverstorm: 56 |
| 02:06.04 | Silverstorm | Ackis: math.ceil |
| 02:06.05 | chiper | hmm, looking for an addon that can show me what tradeskills my alts have |
| 02:06.14 | Ackis | lua> regen1,regen2 = GetManaRegen();SendChatMessage("Alert: Regening mana at: " .. math.ceil(regen1).." OOFSR and ".. math.ceil(regen2) .. " while casting.", "PARTY") |
| 02:06.15 | chiper | actually, nm |
| 02:06.15 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'GetManaRegen' (a nil value) |
| 02:06.22 | Ackis | Chiper: SkillsPlusFu |
| 02:06.27 | chiper | kk |
| 02:06.53 | Silverstorm | blah, sorry for the bot spam, that's what I get for not having a LowDown reminder :-p |
| 02:07.36 | Ackis | why is math.ceil(regen1)*5 giving me a malformed string error? |
| 02:07.53 | Aiiane | hurry for having an IRC client that filters out linespam, Silverstorm :P |
| 02:08.05 | Xinhuan | becuse you have one too many " |
| 02:08.17 | Xinhuan | or you used .. incorrectly |
| 02:08.27 | Ackis | it works w/o the *5 |
| 02:08.44 | Xinhuan | lua> math.ceil(55.5)*5 |
| 02:08.44 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 280 |
| 02:08.49 | Xinhuan | seems fine to me |
| 02:08.59 | Xinhuan | by the way if you are trying to do something dumb like |
| 02:09.05 | Xinhuan | lua> math.ceil(55.5)*5.."abcd" |
| 02:09.05 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '*' |
| 02:09.16 | Xinhuan | you'll notice that 5.. is not a valid number sequence |
| 02:09.19 | Ackis | yes I'm trying to do something dumb like that |
| 02:09.22 | Xinhuan | only one dot is allowed in a number |
| 02:09.27 | Xinhuan | so add a space between them |
| 02:09.32 | Xinhuan | i.e 5 .. |
| 02:10.01 | Silverstorm | ok, fixed my luac issue...just needed to turn off the "write unicode and UTF BOM" option |
| 02:11.38 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73163 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: bugfix |
| 02:11.59 | Ackis | hmmm |
| 02:12.21 | Silverstorm | and now it's setup as a shortcut in my editor to auto-run with current file :) |
| 02:12.40 | Ackis | Where does the paperdoll get it's mana regen values from? GetManaRegen()? |
| 02:13.02 | Ackis | actually I'll go see if I can find it... |
| 02:16.01 | vhaarr | orionshock should not be allowed to give coding guidelines on the forums |
| 02:16.11 | vhaarr | or here, for that matter |
| 02:16.46 | kergoth | any rogues around mind testing an addon for me? want to make sure the bar label text options are working properly |
| 02:17.04 | Aiiane | aroo, vharr? o.o |
| 02:17.50 | vhaarr | everything he says is just confusing and misleading |
| 02:17.59 | vhaarr | which is a bit disturbing, since he has over 1600 posts on the forums |
| 02:18.43 | JoshBorke | shit happens and then you die :-P |
| 02:18.48 | vhaarr | nah |
| 02:18.52 | vhaarr | shit happens and then I go to bed |
| 02:18.59 | JoshBorke | me too |
| 02:18.59 | JoshBorke | night |
| 02:19.01 | vhaarr | nn |
| 02:19.23 | CIA-41 | 03Burgermeal * r73164 10SummonBot/ (. ResizeGrip.tga SummonBot.lua SummonBot.toc SummonBot.xml): |
| 02:19.23 | CIA-41 | SummonBot: initial commit |
| 02:19.23 | CIA-41 | - Automated warlock summoning addon. |
| 02:19.55 | VonhintenHOME` | ok, BigWigs_VashjFFA definitely does NOT set back to the previous loot settings |
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| 02:22.15 | Aiiane | hmm VonhintenHOME`? |
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| 02:24.42 | Burgermeal | hi |
| 02:25.25 | Burgermeal | I've just finished my first commit on the SVN, anyone here who can answer some questions? :) |
| 02:26.37 | kergoth | ~asktoask |
| 02:26.38 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 02:26.42 | hydrogen | loves 4 line long gcc error messages |
| 02:26.54 | hydrogen | someone needs to come up with a better way to spit out error messages about templates |
| 02:27.19 | DarkElf | so this thing summons demons when they die so we dont have to? |
| 02:28.47 | Burgermeal | no, it summons players |
| 02:28.57 | Burgermeal | anyway I cant see it in the WoWAceUpdater |
| 02:29.05 | Ackis | yay I've perfected my e-peen mana regen macro |
| 02:29.06 | Burgermeal | so liek anything wrong there? |
| 02:29.18 | dylanm | Burgermeal: The package system makes zips every 20 minutes or so. |
| 02:29.21 | dylanm | It's not instant. |
| 02:29.37 | Burgermeal | ah |
| 02:29.44 | dylanm | I made up the interval but you get what I mean. |
| 02:30.22 | durcyn | no, it's actually every 20 minutes |
| 02:30.22 | dylanm | http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt will tell you if something is really wrong. |
| 02:31.44 | dylanm | Heh. It was the first number that came to mind and I figured that I had absorbed the information in my time here. |
| 02:33.28 | Fix[EJ] | sweet |
| 02:33.34 | Fix[EJ] | 46% first time seeing Entropius |
| 02:34.14 | Burgermeal | nerf |
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| 02:35.59 | Funkeh` | god I need to download 5million appas to get this rosetta stone shit working, self teaching languages ftl |
| 02:37.53 | Burgermeal | lua? |
| 02:37.55 | Funkeh` | VonhintenHOME`, are you raid leader? |
| 02:38.17 | Funkeh` | Burgermeal, no, Dutch, lol |
| 02:38.59 | Burgermeal | a "real" language? what a waste |
| 02:39.38 | Funkeh` | VonhintenHOME`, I'm not sure what you're talking about now by 'previous loot settings' |
| 02:39.43 | Funkeh` | It doesn't store any settings |
| 02:39.52 | Funkeh` | just sets it to FFA and ML in p2/3 |
| 02:40.15 | vithos | [Ammo]: ping |
| 02:40.46 | Xinhuan | funkeh i told him i *thought* it sets the loot back to whatever setting it was before it switched to FFA ;p |
| 02:40.48 | Silverstorm | Funkeh`: he probably means restoring to whatever loot method was present before the encounter started |
| 02:41.15 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, there's a setting to "Phase 3 ML Disabled", set to On by default |
| 02:41.27 | Xinhuan | and i don't think that's too hard to code that in either ;p |
| 02:41.38 | Xinhuan | if you want to that is |
| 02:42.23 | VonhintenHOME` | Nevermind the fact that "Phase 3 ML Disabled is now set to [Off] is a retarded setting (that makes most people scratch their head for moment working out the double negative), but why is On by default |
| 02:42.24 | Funkeh` | no, not really |
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| 02:42.54 | Funkeh` | all options are on by default |
| 02:42.57 | Funkeh` | and I was lazy |
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| 02:43.46 | Silverstorm | are the button names returned from GetMouseButtonClicked() universal or localized? |
| 02:45.16 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73165 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua: BigWigs_VashjFFA: Phase 3 ML is now ON by default, requires localization updates. |
| 02:45.21 | Funkeh` | VonhintenHOME`, especially for you |
| 02:45.40 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, thanks |
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| 02:52.01 | Burgermeal | how do the addon categories work? |
| 02:53.14 | Silverstorm | woot, added info on OnMouseDown to wowwiki about arguments :) |
| 02:54.41 | Aiiane | Burgermeal: what do you mean, exactly? |
| 02:54.45 | Aiiane | they're categories.... |
| 02:55.38 | hydrogen | Burgermeal: pick one and install it! |
| 03:01.47 | Ackis | whee taking my huntard to BT |
| 03:03.06 | Silverstorm | heh, we take magetards every week >.< |
| 03:04.57 | Aiiane | wtb more bt guilds on my realm |
| 03:05.01 | Aiiane | hopefully my guild will be one soon |
| 03:06.28 | Peoii | Aiiane: Trust me, you have a blessing. |
| 03:06.33 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm.. so, when I apply a rupture with a buff to my AP, if that buffs drops, I can't overwrite that rupture... |
| 03:06.43 | VonhintenHOME` | never really run into this problem before |
| 03:07.04 | VonhintenHOME` | getting a lot of errors about more powerful spells being active |
| 03:07.08 | CIA-41 | 03Footrot * r73166 10GhostPulse/Watcher-Bags.lua: |
| 03:07.08 | CIA-41 | GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-09 |
| 03:07.08 | CIA-41 | - Fixed a problem with bag item cooldowns popping up long after the cooldown was over. |
| 03:07.22 | Aiiane | Peoii: eh, yes and no |
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| 03:10.37 | Aiiane | we're currently the 6th most progressed horde guild on our server |
| 03:10.49 | Aiiane | actually, probably the 5th now that we've killed rage |
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| 03:15.46 | Aiiane | I do find it somewhat amusing that rage's trash is harder than he is. |
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| 03:17.03 | VonhintenHOME` | vashj needs to be retuned |
| 03:17.12 | Aiiane | meh |
| 03:17.17 | Aiiane | why's that |
| 03:17.28 | VonhintenHOME` | too tough for non-leet guilds |
| 03:17.35 | Aiiane | and? |
| 03:17.39 | Aiiane | you're not forced to do her anymore |
| 03:18.13 | VonhintenHOME` | t5 helm as well as several of her pieces of loot are stepping stones for higher content |
| 03:18.26 | Aiiane | but not requirements |
| 03:18.38 | Aiiane | there are plenty of other pieces that are nearly as good in slot |
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| 03:18.42 | VonhintenHOME` | Seems mistuned that we're able to take down several bosses in MH and BT, but struggle with an SSC boss |
| 03:18.47 | Aiiane | not really |
| 03:18.55 | Aiiane | end bosses are typically more difficult than the rest of the instance |
| 03:19.55 | Aiiane | and quite honestly, she's a fun fight |
| 03:20.05 | Aiiane | not one that i'd like to see be given the magtheridon treatment |
| 03:20.47 | VonhintenHOME` | we never got magtheridon down before the nerf |
| 03:20.59 | VonhintenHOME` | we've killed Vashj, but with a group of people we rarely have together at once |
| 03:21.46 | Aiiane | sounds like it's less of a tuning issue and more of a guild issue |
| 03:22.02 | VonhintenHOME` | If you say so |
| 03:22.27 | VonhintenHOME` | We should just kick our friends out that are average players.. they're holding us back |
| 03:22.30 | VonhintenHOME` | eh? |
| 03:22.53 | Aiiane | no, it's more that content can't be designed for everyone at once |
| 03:22.58 | Aiiane | so the tradeoff is up to you |
| 03:23.34 | Aiiane | if you choose to not be hardcore, than some of the bosses will be more difficult |
| 03:23.45 | Lywellyn | Is it considered okay to fix someone's addon? |
| 03:24.06 | Aiiane | Lywellyn: it's probably polite to see if you can contact them first |
| 03:24.29 | Lywellyn | is StiviS here under another name then? |
| 03:24.43 | Lywellyn | second to last commit message for TrainerFu says externals were changed....but they weren't, and now it's erroring. |
| 03:24.44 | VonhintenHOME` | Aiiane, all it would take is little changes.. for instance, like Lurker's add spawns, they come up and stand still a moment, then engage... if the Naga in this encounter went to the center, it would make this more manageable |
| 03:26.06 | Aiiane | question: what are you tanks worrying about during the second phase besides picking up those adds? |
| 03:26.17 | VonhintenHOME` | How would that help you ask? Well, the poor healer that's busting his ass won't get insta pwned from behind by an elite, unless a tank fails to pick it up |
| 03:27.02 | VonhintenHOME` | I want a reduction in random BS.. if we fail, I want it to be our fault.. not just bad luck |
| 03:28.31 | Aiiane | the thing is though, unless you're doing some really odd strat, the elites are the /only/ thing your tanks should be caring about during that phase |
| 03:29.11 | Aiiane | vashj is really a fight of communication |
| 03:29.16 | VonhintenHOME` | but they spawn right next to a healer, randomly at 360 degrees... the chance of the tank picking it up without it heading towards a healer right off the bad are pretty slim |
| 03:29.41 | Aiiane | intervene, feral faerie fire, and pally's ranged taunt |
| 03:31.24 | NeoTron | I wonder, how do you filter incoming whispers from an addon? |
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| 03:33.56 | HunterZ0 | hey, does anyone know how to set the metadata for what category of addon something on the SVN is? |
| 03:34.18 | Aiiane | pretty sure it's an attribute in the toc? |
| 03:34.25 | Aiiane | but i might be misremembering |
| 03:34.38 | HunterZ0 | >.< that just occurred to me as soon as i asked, thanks |
| 03:34.52 | Aiiane | ## X-Category: Chat/Communication |
| 03:37.47 | CIA-41 | 03jjsheets * r73167 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 03:37.47 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade: |
| 03:37.47 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.48 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.48 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:41.21 | CIA-41 | 03Burgermeal * r73168 10SummonBot/ (. SummonBot.toc): |
| 03:41.21 | CIA-41 | SummonBot: |
| 03:41.22 | CIA-41 | - Added more information to .toc file. |
| 03:42.19 | JJSheets | vhaarr, thanks for the bug report. |
| 03:42.29 | CIA-41 | 03hunterz * r73169 10LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1.toc: |
| 03:42.29 | CIA-41 | LibGUIDRegistry-0.1: |
| 03:42.29 | CIA-41 | - Add "X-Category: Library" to the TOC |
| 03:43.43 | Funkeh` | clearly an all important update |
| 03:44.28 | CIA-41 | 03jjsheets * r73170 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 03:44.28 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade: |
| 03:44.28 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:47.07 | Apoco | ~seen luxas |
| 03:47.09 | purl | Apoco: i haven't seen 'luxas' |
| 03:47.15 | Apoco | ~seen luxus |
| 03:47.16 | purl | luxus <n=luxus@L1526.l.pppool.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 57m 53s ago, saying: 'KriLL3: i have the same problem :D'. |
| 03:48.59 | Apoco | kergoth: ping |
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| 03:52.07 | Poul|Raider | 05:49:41 [G] Fs: ./script local gcd=GetSpellCooldown("Cat Form"); if gcd==0 then CancelPlayerBuff("Cat Form") end;/stopmacro [stance:3]/cast Cat Form |
| 03:52.18 | Poul|Raider | what does the stopmacro do to be exact? |
| 03:52.41 | Kaaosa | -+-- |
| 03:54.29 | Ganders | it....stops the macro |
| 03:54.36 | Ganders | if you're in stance:3 then it won't cast Cat Form |
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| 03:55.35 | JJSheets | Out of macro curiosity, what would that macro's benefit be? |
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| 03:58.08 | Poul|Raider | it shapshift when there is no gcd |
| 03:59.10 | Poul|Raider | but the druid im talking to saying it works without the /stopmacro [stance:3] |
| 03:59.16 | Poul|Raider | so i still dont get it |
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| 04:04.12 | Aiiane | well, i'd assume the point of the macro is to prevent accidentally shifting out of cat form when trying to powershift while still in a gcd |
| 04:05.31 | Poul|Raider | YE |
| 04:05.32 | Poul|Raider | yes |
| 04:05.43 | hydrogen | I thought it was all replaced by /cast !Cat Form ? |
| 04:06.16 | Aiiane | no, because that won't cancel it at all |
| 04:06.39 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.56 | Aiiane | what that macro does is *if* you can shift out and back in immediately, then you do that |
| 04:07.02 | mykx | Hey guys, what's the best addon profiling tool/addon to show CPU usage |
| 04:07.24 | dylanm | Antiarc seems to like Expo. Haven't tried it yet. |
| 04:07.24 | JJSheets | Ah. so it gives you extra power essentially? |
| 04:07.35 | Aiiane | JJSheets: yes, from the first-tier resto talent |
| 04:07.46 | JJSheets | no sense has been made. |
| 04:07.46 | Aiiane | Furor |
| 04:07.52 | JJSheets | s/no/now/ |
| 04:07.53 | Aiiane | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0 |
| 04:07.56 | Aiiane | :P |
| 04:08.01 | mykx | dylanm: expo was too confusing for me lol |
| 04:08.10 | JJSheets | damn keyboard... |
| 04:08.15 | Aiiane | oftentimes it's not really worth it |
| 04:08.26 | JJSheets | mykx, what was confusing about it? |
| 04:08.37 | Aiiane | but basically, it's converting mana (due to shift cost) into extra energy, /if/ you time it right, and /if/ you started at close to zero energy |
| 04:08.45 | mykx | well I couldn't for the life of me figure out where to see my addon profiling.. |
| 04:08.48 | JJSheets | wrote Expo to optimize InfiniBar a year ago, and it WAS worth it. :p |
| 04:08.56 | Aiiane | but you have to basically time it right after an energy tick, and right after taking your energy to zero |
| 04:09.37 | JJSheets | mykx, you have to enable the profiling module and tell it how to access in lua the addon. so for instance: LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon("YourAddon") |
| 04:10.02 | mykx | ah so I have to add every addon I have ? |
| 04:10.10 | Poul|Raider | so many druids could learn something about dps rotations with powershifts :D |
| 04:10.28 | JJSheets | mykx yes. Expo was designed for fine tuning the functions in an addon. |
| 04:10.32 | Poul|Raider | funny to see theres 3 druid in the world who seam to be able to do it :D |
| 04:10.34 | dylanm | mykx: Oh you're not really coding anything? |
| 04:10.39 | dylanm | Just use OptionHouse or something then. |
| 04:10.55 | Poul|Raider | and then there are all the others who are 500dps lower and keep spaming for buffs on boards .D |
| 04:10.59 | JJSheets | if you just want to see which addons are using what, use OptionHouse, or PerformanceFu, or whatever. :) |
| 04:11.00 | mykx | well the thing is optionhouse closes the cpu profiling when in combat, I'm trying to see what is causing fps drops in combat |
| 04:11.12 | JJSheets | PerformanceFu. |
| 04:11.26 | mykx | ok time to reinstall fubar lol |
| 04:11.29 | dylanm | Uh I thought Shadowed fixed that. |
| 04:11.34 | Shadowed | what'd I fix |
| 04:11.39 | JJSheets | lol |
| 04:11.43 | dylanm | I thought OptionHouse stayed open in combat now |
| 04:11.44 | Shadowed | yea that was removed in latest version |
| 04:11.51 | mykx | oh really? nice lemme grab the update |
| 04:11.52 | Shadowed | actually it's an option but i think it's disabled by default |
| 04:12.08 | mykx | I have to use embedded for it to display properly right ? |
| 04:12.13 | dylanm | I shouldn't say "fixed"... that was a definite design decision for stuff that was secure. |
| 04:12.26 | dylanm | Right? |
| 04:12.53 | mykx | for example one way shows the library for the usage and the other shows the addon |
| 04:13.32 | dylanm | Disembedded is probably going to give you more useful numbers. |
| 04:13.45 | mykx | ok great, thanks :) |
| 04:14.09 | mykx | no use having a pretty looking ui if i'm getting < 20 fps in combat |
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| 04:15.09 | Shadowed | Yea dylanm, it was a design choice at the start |
| 04:15.24 | dylanm | In the sense that if you run embedded, then whichever addon loaded a certain library first is going to get blamed for whatever any addon does with that library. |
| 04:15.34 | dylanm | I think that's how it works. |
| 04:17.09 | mykx | hrm that doesn't help, just says Lib: Ace2 is using 60% of my cpu lol |
| 04:17.33 | JJSheets | that's not likely. :p |
| 04:17.47 | JJSheets | must be something still embedded somewhere. |
| 04:18.08 | mykx | perhaps I did it wrong because the top 3 cpu usage are all librarys |
| 04:18.31 | mykx | Ace2, Ace3 then dogtag |
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| 04:30.08 | GitHub174 | quecho: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-72a9844 |
| 04:30.10 | GitHub174 | CRLF can suck a big floppy tauren dick |
| 04:30.12 | GitHub174 | http://github.com/tekkub/quecho/commit/72a98449a29f915f1bf3c6cf708e7d718a2ac9f3 |
| 04:30.14 | GitHub174 | quecho: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-deaa50a |
| 04:30.16 | GitHub174 | Add in new quest links, better tracker, notice for abandoned quests |
| 04:30.18 | GitHub174 | http://github.com/tekkub/quecho/commit/deaa50a95e6da7907146579e13ddaafb069e3663 |
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| 04:37.59 | CIA-41 | FuBar_GuildFu |
| 04:37.59 | CIA-41 | -zhCN update |
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| 04:37.59 | CIA-41 | FuBar_FriendsFu |
| 04:37.59 | CIA-41 | -zhCN update |
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| 04:51.03 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: ah, so ML wasn't on by default? |
| 04:51.14 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, you tell me |
| 04:51.38 | NivFreak | well, I saw your commit :P |
| 04:52.57 | NivFreak | hrmm, it's already checked in my config |
| 04:53.00 | NivFreak | and I don't remember setting it |
| 04:53.36 | mykx | heh interesting, automaton using 35% of my cpu while idle |
| 04:54.10 | Funkeh` | it's not 35% of your cpu |
| 04:54.17 | Funkeh` | it's 35% of wow's usage iirc |
| 04:54.22 | Funkeh` | and that sounds doubtful |
| 04:54.49 | MentalPower | not even that |
| 04:55.01 | MentalPower | its 35% of WoW's UI usage |
| 04:55.06 | mykx | I just set my thing up for externals and checked, and thats what it told me |
| 04:55.45 | MentalPower | ie, it does not count rendering time or time spent outside of the UI loop |
| 04:56.03 | MentalPower | just Lua + events + Lua's C++ calls |
| 04:56.03 | home|prophy | did macro commands get changed up?? |
| 04:56.05 | home|prophy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.17 | home|prophy | cast [target=mouseover,exists][exists][target=player] Rejuvenation |
| 04:56.22 | home|prophy | not working anymore |
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| 05:24.44 | Pazza_ | Maybe someone can contribute... From what I understood initially, local vars where limited to the file they are declared in. Am i wrong to assume this? |
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| 05:25.26 | dylanm | Local to the file. |
| 05:27.54 | Pazza_ | i am getting errors... I have an object/table declared in one file (globally) for the sake of understanding TEST = {};... In a second file, I declare two function. function TEST:hello() world(); end and local function world() end; it seems that TEST:hello() is trying to reference global world() instead of the actual local world() thus throwing an error. any ideas? |
| 05:28.43 | dylanm | What error |
| 05:28.51 | Pazza_ | because TEST was declared in the first file, is it limited to the scope of that first file? |
| 05:28.53 | Arrowmaster | im so happy |
| 05:28.58 | Arrowmaster | i finally got my wings |
| 05:29.07 | Snago | Pazza_: Move local function world() end; above function TEST:hello() world(); end |
| 05:29.14 | Arrowmaster | fucking shitty ass drop rate on conq helms |
| 05:29.49 | Snago | Pazza_: Local vars need to be declared before they aree used :) |
| 05:30.28 | Pazza_ | thanks Snago |
| 05:30.32 | Nandini | Pazza_: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.6 is a good illustration |
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| 05:31.11 | Pazza_ | Thanks Nandini as well |
| 05:33.57 | CIA-41 | 03Footrot * r73175 10GhostPulse/ (4 files): |
| 05:33.57 | CIA-41 | GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-09 |
| 05:33.57 | CIA-41 | - Fixed all cooldowns to ensure they don't alert too long after they expire and to also ensure they're purged from internal lists in this case. |
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| 05:38.53 | aestil | Antiarc: can you do +40 dmg to weapon? |
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| 05:41.18 | home|prophy | is there a problem with this macro? cast [target=mouseover,exists][exists][target=player] Rejuvenation |
| 05:42.24 | Snago | cast [target=mouseover,exists,help][exists,help][target=player] Rejuvenation would be better imo |
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| 05:43.28 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73176 10CoolDownButtons/ (8 files in 3 dirs): CoolDownButtons: added Config Modules, no options yet. |
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| 05:46.31 | mykx | Funkeh`: are you still here? |
| 05:47.16 | CIA-41 | 03stormfx * r73177 10ButtonFacade_Apathy/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:47.16 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade_Apathy: |
| 05:47.17 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.17 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:47.20 | CIA-41 | FuBar_FriendsFu |
| 05:47.20 | CIA-41 | -zhCN typo fix |
| 05:51.07 | CIA-41 | 03snago * r73179 10IHML/locales/locale-frFR.lua: |
| 05:51.07 | CIA-41 | IHML: |
| 05:51.07 | CIA-41 | - frFR Vasjh macro was slightly too long. |
| 05:52.57 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73180 10CoolDownButtons/ (4 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: "fixed" FAQ.lua and removed 2 old files |
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| 06:05.52 | Dashkal | Yay overkill. I just designed a library I'm gonna write over the weekend in UML2.1 |
| 06:06.08 | Dashkal | Or rather a horribly abused subset of it, but whatever |
| 06:07.36 | Dashkal | Now to figure out how to implement the damn thing without needing to implement or use an OO library (it has some inheritance going on) |
| 06:10.17 | Paene | lib for what? |
| 06:10.45 | home|prophy | mouseover targets on grid is broken now?? |
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| 06:26.30 | Dashkal | task manager for when you have more things to do than cpu cycles |
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| 06:38.28 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73181 10AutoBar/Locale-itIT.lua: |
| 06:38.28 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 06:38.28 | CIA-41 | -- itIT: Mostly a clone of frFR since it doesnt have bogus escape sequences in it. Needs actual translation |
| 06:38.52 | nevcairiel | since when does wow support it locale? |
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| 06:40.46 | KriLL3 | the man that thought it was a good idea to nerf feral druids against hunters even more should have his testicles wrapped in barbed wire and be hung by them from the top limb of a really tall tree |
| 06:41.15 | CIA-41 | 03elkano * r73182 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (8 files): FuBar_GuildFu: now using language independent class return value |
| 06:41.45 | Dashkal | Feral Druid == useless in pvp *sighs* Why yes, yes I am bitter. |
| 06:42.11 | KriLL3 | Dashkal: adding instant 30 feet scare beast sure helps matters |
| 06:42.20 | Gary13579 | spec resto. |
| 06:42.31 | Gary13579 | or stop qqing, imo tbh. |
| 06:42.32 | KriLL3 | Gary13579: it's not that simple |
| 06:42.32 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: I think its in the works. Their Eu manual is in italian etc. Dunno if some clever italian can both translate the it and hack it in so it works or not. |
| 06:42.38 | Dashkal | I'd rather be able to actually do things outside of the arena |
| 06:42.41 | Nandini | feral druids aren't useless in pvp, they are just "challenging" in arenas |
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| 06:42.48 | Zeksie | nevcairiel: good question. Someone sent me a RU translation for X-Perl last week.. was like, what the f*** do you want me to do with this.. |
| 06:42.56 | KriLL3 | while hunter is ezmode, and it got even easier now |
| 06:43.03 | nevcairiel | I haven't heard a thing about itIT .. ruRU was actually announced by blizzard |
| 06:43.14 | Nandini | also, an esMX client is available |
| 06:43.27 | Zeksie | not active yet tho are they |
| 06:43.32 | Toadkiller | Yeah the esMX beta is ongoing atm. I just added that to AutoBar |
| 06:43.33 | Nandini | esMX is in open beta |
| 06:43.52 | Zeksie | mx? oh, spanish mexican? |
| 06:43.58 | Toadkiller | yep |
| 06:44.00 | Zeksie | k |
| 06:44.09 | Toadkiller | No idea how different it is but apparently it is |
| 06:44.14 | Nandini | "Latin American Spanish" is the preferred name of the locale |
| 06:44.29 | Nandini | for one thing, in-game speech uses different voice actors |
| 06:44.41 | Toadkiller | hah that would be esLA, not esMX |
| 06:45.03 | Toadkiller | Ah ok so the accents are different |
| 06:45.05 | Dashkal | Should that be MJ? I thought they spelled it that way... |
| 06:45.12 | Nandini | as far as interface localization, there should rarely ever be a need to differentiate between esES and esMX |
| 06:45.13 | Gary13579 | (01:42:46) (Dashkal) I'd rather be able to actually do things outside of the arena |
| 06:45.21 | Gary13579 | Because resto druids can't PvE? Right? |
| 06:45.28 | Dashkal | Arena resto != pve resto |
| 06:45.28 | Gary13579 | And there's no way in hell you can respec for PvP? |
| 06:45.29 | Gary13579 | Right? |
| 06:45.41 | Gary13579 | So because you can't PvP in a PvE spec, you're complaining. |
| 06:45.54 | Gary13579 | I mean, every other class can PvP in a PvE spec. |
| 06:45.55 | Gary13579 | Poor you? |
| 06:45.57 | Dashkal | I'm complaining that feral druids are useless in pvp. My decision is to simply not pvp |
| 06:46.12 | Dashkal | go pick an argument with someone else |
| 06:46.19 | Gary13579 | destro locks are useless in pvp |
| 06:46.24 | Gary13579 | fire/arcane mages are useless |
| 06:46.29 | Gary13579 | fury/prot warriors are useless. |
| 06:46.34 | Nandini | prot warriors and pallies are more useless than feral druids, imo |
| 06:46.42 | Toadkiller | Arena Resto is a special spec and totally different gear from Raid resto, its spec and its gear. You can use some arena gear in raid depending on the situation but not the other way round. |
| 06:46.49 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 06:46.56 | NivFreak | trinity bars is strange |
| 06:47.01 | Elkano | Dashkal, that's not true... a feral can do nice in EotS for capping points or the flag |
| 06:47.17 | Dashkal | I get my honor from AV. I just tank everything :p |
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| 06:47.19 | Nandini | i enjoy BGs and arenas very much as feral |
| 06:47.44 | Nandini | and there are a few feral druids around 2k rating, so it's obviously not impossible |
| 06:47.45 | Toadkiller | t6 feral is quite deadly in arena... |
| 06:47.48 | Dashkal | Well, not so much anymore. I got the resi I wanted for my crit immunity. No need for any more pvp *cheers* |
| 06:48.12 | Nandini | indeed, and the wacky 2pc t5 set bonus is well worth wearing in arenas for ferals |
| 06:48.17 | Nandini | instant regrowth = win |
| 06:48.27 | Dashkal | whistles |
| 06:48.28 | Elkano | well, I'm thinking about getting S3 for PvE tanking until I can get my hands on sth better |
| 06:48.29 | Dashkal | THat is nice |
| 06:48.33 | Dashkal | <--- tier 4 in pve |
| 06:48.55 | Nandini | if you are t4 in pve and s1 in pvp, you are approximately at the same stage in both then, no reason to complain |
| 06:48.56 | Elkano | same here, except for legs, still clefthoof there :/ |
| 06:48.59 | Toadkiller | lol just use s3 instead |
| 06:49.18 | Dashkal | I have teh s3 chest and the s1 shoulders. That's enough to get the crit cap with some added defense |
| 06:49.43 | Dashkal | I really dislike arenas. Not gonna bother with anymore more A pieces |
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| 06:49.48 | Nandini | any arena gear is pretty good for tanking |
| 06:50.15 | Nandini | and your threat output will be way higher than with HCH |
| 06:50.29 | Dashkal | hch? |
| 06:50.36 | Nandini | thank god we no longer have to make it forever to level up leatherworking, since the market for HCH is completely gone now |
| 06:50.48 | Dashkal | clefthoof, gotcha |
| 06:51.16 | Dashkal | I have no threat issues atm so that isn't a concern. And getting the badge staff will ensure I never do before lich king |
| 06:52.34 | Nandini | tbh, you should stick with earthwarden for tanking, the badge staff has plenty of stam and about 3.64% dodge from its agility, but the armor, defense rating, and expertise on earthwarden is truly awesome until you get to ssc |
| 06:52.48 | Dashkal | That ssc staff is amazing |
| 06:53.27 | Nandini | yes, it is awesome, i just last week got the pillar of "lolocity" from anetheron in hyjal and i'm not sure i'll ever find a use for it |
| 06:54.01 | Arrowmaster | since the new badge one is the best for dps, you probably wont |
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| 06:54.09 | Dashkal | Heh, I don't even look at t6+ level gear. I'm simply not willing to put in the time to reach that level of play. West coast and working until 6pm is a bit of a deal breaker |
| 06:55.15 | Nandini | my guild is mostly in t5, we're just starting hyjal and learning some BT trash |
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| 06:55.25 | Dashkal | Though I'll be trying to get us to drop winterchill soon as we actually get back into tier 5. |
| 06:55.32 | Dashkal | Yay free loot :p |
| 06:55.46 | Arrowmaster | wait people wipe on winterchill? |
| 06:56.09 | Dashkal | Exactly. I expect more trouble from the trash than him |
| 06:56.16 | Nandini | but we are getting pretty good at TK and SSC now, we do everything except kael and vashj on one night |
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| 06:56.37 | ScoTTie | Rage trash is pretty simple compared to the rest |
| 06:56.39 | Nandini | which leaves us one night for learning those two, and one night for hyjal |
| 06:56.48 | CIA-41 | 03broesel01 * r73183 10Quiet_Npc/ (Quiet_Hfhi.lua Quiet_Nethersturm.lua Quiet_Npc - ReadMe.txt): |
| 06:56.48 | CIA-41 | Quiet_Npc: |
| 06:56.48 | CIA-41 | - Npc's zugefügt |
| 06:56.54 | Arrowmaster | we've had our MT die before on winterchill (well a lot really since the healers like to let him die) and our OT tanked him in leather dps gear |
| 06:56.55 | Dashkal | But at the rate we progress, and with wotlk looking like a fall or christmas release, not terribly worried about vash/kael and t6 |
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| 06:57.52 | Nandini | fall or christmas is only 4-8 months away, i still can't really picture a release in that timeframe, altho i'm sure blizz would love to hit christmas |
| 06:58.08 | Dashkal | Alpha is started, I expect beta by summer. Fall is doable |
| 06:58.12 | Arrowmaster | fall is out of the question imho |
| 06:58.41 | Arrowmaster | but i think bliz is wanting an 08 release so it would be right at christmas |
| 06:59.21 | Dashkal | *nods* That sounds reasonable. Though christmas isn't as important for them as for a stand-alone game. If you want to stay relivant, you upgrade. End of story. |
| 06:59.25 | Nandini | alpha testing can take place one zone or dungeon at a time, so it can go on for a very long time |
| 07:00.13 | Arrowmaster | tbc was in closed beta for kinda a long time |
| 07:02.18 | Silviu- | Looking for a nice person ( coder ) that can help me/code verry little in a addon to show durability as % |
| 07:03.13 | Zhinjio | GOod evening. |
| 07:03.32 | Silviu- | Good morning is here ;p |
| 07:03.48 | CIA-41 | 03Chloe * r73184 10Tankadin/ (20 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:03.48 | CIA-41 | Tankadin: Initial Commit |
| 07:03.48 | CIA-41 | - Official Tankadin mod of the Maintankadin Community, RF Warnings, AD tracker, and much more. |
| 07:04.30 | Zeksie | afaik. irc uses UGT (Universal Greeting Time) so it's morning whenever you log on, and evening when you log off. makes things much simpler |
| 07:04.48 | Silviu- | ;) |
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| 07:08.15 | Ackis | meh wow just crashed my pc |
| 07:08.32 | KriLL3 | are you sure your PC didn't crash wow? |
| 07:08.40 | Ackis | nah |
| 07:08.45 | Ackis | :P |
| 07:09.00 | KriLL3 | not even hunters support beastcoil, blizzard should be shot in the face for even considering it |
| 07:09.21 | Elkano | ah Ackis :) any progress on the fullwidth buttons? ;) |
| 07:09.49 | Ackis | Elkano: a lot of talks and some stuff I've played around with lol |
| 07:09.55 | Zhinjio | su Ackis, Elkano |
| 07:09.57 | Zhinjio | sup |
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| 07:10.09 | Ackis | allo Zhinjio |
| 07:10.50 | Ackis | i spent 2500g on loot today heh |
| 07:11.35 | Ackis | my alt hunter now proudly sports BT gear :P |
| 07:11.58 | Elkano | I still have to spend 2500g on my ex guild leader ^^' |
| 07:12.14 | Ackis | lol why? |
| 07:12.24 | [Ammo] | ask on #wowace, kinda busy atm, sorry |
| 07:12.27 | [Ammo] | ugh |
| 07:13.11 | [Ammo] | silly up key |
| 07:13.16 | Keias | lol |
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| 07:13.54 | Ackis | as a representative of the up key, I would like to protest it being called silly |
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| 07:14.19 | [Ammo] | protests will be met with led |
| 07:14.24 | [Ammo] | opens fire |
| 07:14.38 | Ackis | lol |
| 07:15.19 | Dashkal | lol, eclipse lets me do stupid shit.... I just took the uml model I used to design my lil task manager library and coughed up some java code for it for laughs |
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| 07:21.04 | Silviu- | Looking for a nice person ( coder ) that can help me/code verry little in a addon to show durability as % :/ |
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| 07:26.13 | Elkano | Ackis, he lend them to me for my epic flight form quest |
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| 07:31.32 | Aiiane | Silviu-: If you use FuBar, the DurabilityFu plugin will do basically that for you already :) Might not be what you're looking for, but it might help :) |
| 07:32.05 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: calculating that is actually quite easy |
| 07:32.32 | Silviu- | [Ammo] mhh maybe but i loose myself in lua :/ |
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| 07:33.28 | Silviu- | I tryed to look over many addons and "inspire" but still i can`t do it right |
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| 07:34.17 | Silviu- | [Ammo] all i need it to calculate and display a small frame with 100% for example .. |
| 07:37.14 | [Ammo] | you basically have a table of slots that can have durability, and loop em in a simple func that calcs the average |
| 07:38.00 | Silviu- | [Ammo] i had something like that but was causing CPU increase since it scanned every frame |
| 07:38.08 | [Ammo] | StatBlocks_Durability has the simplest option |
| 07:38.25 | [Ammo] | well you have to do it on UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED, PLAYER_DEAD, MERCHANT_CLOSED and some other events |
| 07:38.28 | [Ammo] | not all the time |
| 07:38.47 | [Ammo] | maybe after combat |
| 07:39.47 | Zyndrome | :S |
| 07:43.29 | Arrowmaster | umm no you dont |
| 07:43.39 | Arrowmaster | theres an event now for when duribility changes |
| 07:43.53 | Silviu- | mhh |
| 07:44.02 | evl | well durability will only needed to be update on PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED |
| 07:44.10 | evl | since you get briefly into combat whenever you take damage |
| 07:44.21 | evl | unless you want to take into account changing items |
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| 07:44.38 | Silviu- | I don`t change them much anyway |
| 07:44.39 | Silviu- | :) |
| 07:48.41 | [Ammo] | evl: and on merchant_closed for after you repair :) |
| 07:48.52 | evl | or do like me |
| 07:49.05 | evl | make a 5 second timer and screw events! |
| 07:49.22 | Silviu- | I tryed with 60 s timer on my old code |
| 07:49.25 | Silviu- | with no success |
| 07:49.33 | Silviu- | still using cpu more then needed |
| 07:49.37 | [Ammo] | evl: you're silly |
| 07:50.04 | [Ammo] | let me whip someting up :) |
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| 07:57.07 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: drycoded and untested: http://ace.pastey.net/87498 |
| 07:57.28 | Silviu- | Thank u verry much |
| 07:57.35 | [Ammo] | no clue if it'll work :) |
| 07:57.48 | [Ammo] | oh typos |
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| 07:59.06 | CIA-41 | 03cwdg * r73185 10SimpleDrumAnnounce/ (SimpleDrumAnnounce.toc locales/zhCN.lua locales/zhTW.lua): |
| 07:59.06 | CIA-41 | SimpleDrumAnnounce: |
| 07:59.06 | CIA-41 | -add chinese locale zhCN & zhTW |
| 07:59.06 | CIA-41 | put embeds.xml ahead of locale files |
| 07:59.06 | CIA-41 | by Xio@WindRose |
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| 08:22.50 | starlon | ~ace3 |
| 08:22.50 | purl | methinks ace3 is an addon framework for World of Warcraft to make writing addons easier. The primary difference from Ace2 is to be more interoperable with as many frameworks as possible, allowing only bits and pieces to be chosen for addons, and no longer be a one megabyte monster. |
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| 08:57.44 | CIA-41 | 03Sorata * r73186 10Buffalo/Buffalo.toc: |
| 08:57.44 | CIA-41 | Buffalo: |
| 08:57.44 | CIA-41 | - Add ButtonFacade to optional dependencies |
| 09:05.50 | Zhinjio | latest UI, based fairly heavily on Caith: http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/v/gaming/wow/zjui10/ |
| 09:06.01 | Zhinjio | I'm so goddamn obsessive it hurts. |
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| 09:06.43 | Broesel01 | hi |
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| 09:09.12 | Punkie | i dont really like it |
| 09:09.48 | Broesel01 | any german people here, who can help me with an question (.lua & wow)? |
| 09:11.04 | SunTsu | Broesel01: I am german, but I don't think I can help. But you can always try |
| 09:11.20 | Broesel01 | ich schreib dich mal privat an ;) |
| 09:11.51 | Lukian | Broesel01, not all that private when some of us can read ;) |
| 09:12.22 | SunTsu | Lukian: He was talking about query ;) |
| 09:12.42 | Lukian | ya, I was trying to be all hacker'ish :( |
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| 09:13.27 | Bielette | Hi! |
| 09:13.39 | Lukian | hi |
| 09:13.46 | Bielette | is this the WoW-Ace Channel? |
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| 09:14.31 | Lukian | I'm not sure what else it would be |
| 09:14.33 | Lukian | so yes? |
| 09:14.53 | Bielette | I never used IRC, that's why I ask |
| 09:15.09 | ennuilg | No no, it's the Wo... Wa... CE channel, a Chinese channel discussing PDAs running under Microsoft's WindowsCE. |
| 09:15.59 | Bielette | fair enough. either way somebody might have a clue on the "postal" maybe |
| 09:16.45 | ennuilg | ~asktoask |
| 09:16.45 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 09:18.39 | Bielette | ok. when I use open all mail, it states to open the mails that are still blocked due to the 1h all auction house mails are blocked nowadays. these mails are gone, but no Gold is calculated. are they deleted then? because when I open the mailbox thereafter, they don't show up again |
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| 09:22.58 | Lukian | Bielette, if you mean the pre-gold mails, why would it calculate them? |
| 09:23.07 | Lukian | they are useless until you get your gold in an hour :) |
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| 09:27.21 | Bielette | still the AddOn opens them and they are gone by then |
| 09:27.35 | starlon | Where's all the Ace3 docs? I found what comes with Ace3 but it's not very thorough. |
| 09:27.55 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace3 |
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| 09:28.22 | starlon | Yeah I read that. |
| 09:28.25 | [Ammo] | API documentation should be there as well |
| 09:28.29 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-3.0_API_Documentation |
| 09:28.30 | [Ammo] | for instance |
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| 09:29.27 | [Ammo] | but documentation is a bit lacking still |
| 09:29.36 | [Ammo] | the docs/ folder is your best bet |
| 09:29.40 | [Ammo] | and ofcourse the mighty source |
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| 09:30.03 | [Ammo] | some api is linked here: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:API_Documentation |
| 09:30.11 | starlon | yep |
| 09:30.19 | Broesel01_ | how can i kick an nick after an dc? |
| 09:30.23 | starlon | was looking for AceConfig-3.0 |
| 09:30.29 | ravagernl | funny clicking that link xp first try to opens it in windows explorer |
| 09:30.34 | starlon | Guess I'll look at the source |
| 09:30.47 | profalbert | Broesel01_ /msg nickserv ghost <username> <password> |
| 09:30.48 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 09:30.52 | Broesel01_ | thx |
| 09:31.07 | chead | "All raid dungeons in Wrath of the Lich King will have both 25-person and 10-person versions" I wonder if 4horse men require a tank for each in 10mannaxx =) |
| 09:31.09 | Xinhuan | hi Bielette, those 1 hour mails are just "notifications" that your mail will arrive in 1 hour |
| 09:31.14 | Xinhuan | your gold* |
| 09:31.16 | Xinhuan | rather |
| 09:31.26 | [Ammo] | chead: they probably have a 10 man wing and a 25 man wing |
| 09:31.32 | Xinhuan | if you don't delete them, they self-delete in 1 hour by themselves anyway, as seen in their mail expiry time |
| 09:31.36 | [Ammo] | so different bosses and different part of the area |
| 09:31.48 | Bielette | Thanks a lot Xinhuan! |
| 09:31.50 | [SW]Dodge | lf acegui3 dev^^^ |
| 09:31.54 | Xinhuan | when the actual gold arrives, its in a separate mail |
| 09:31.58 | chead | hmm that's not how I understand the wording... "version" |
| 09:32.18 | chead | - 25-person raiding progression is not dependent on 10-person raiding; players will not have to obtain keys or attunements in 10-person raids to participate in 25-person raids |
| 09:32.19 | starlon | And I doubt they'll have the same bosses repeated |
| 09:32.21 | [Ammo] | I doubt they'll rehash content for 2 different team sizes |
| 09:32.24 | Aiiane | wording can be misleading |
| 09:32.26 | Bielette | great! how good that someone told me about your AddOn, now AH is a lot more fun |
| 09:32.35 | chead | - 10- and 25-person raids both have their own, independent progression paths |
| 09:32.36 | chead | . Players will receive more, higher level rewards for completing the 25-person raid dungeons over the 10-person version |
| 09:32.57 | CIA-41 | 03Footrot * r73187 10GhostPulse/ (Engine.lua Watcher-MobDebuff.lua): |
| 09:32.57 | CIA-41 | GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-09 |
| 09:32.57 | CIA-41 | - Added Early Warning support to the MobDebuffs alerts. |
| 09:33.29 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: ping |
| 09:33.41 | chead | atleast to me it seems like it's same bosses, just tuned differently |
| 09:33.53 | chead | oh well .. time will tell =) |
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| 09:41.06 | Aiiane | Note to self... remember to get around to writing addon that the idea for has been sitting around for, forever |
| 09:42.07 | [SW]Dodge | Aiiane: what addon?^^ |
| 09:42.23 | Aiiane | lol |
| 09:43.08 | Aiiane | sort of a personal picky thing, but basically a widget-type thing that I can just plunk somewhere on my screen to track a specific single buff or set of mutually exclusive buffs (i.e. paladin seals), independent of anything else |
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| 09:47.01 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r73188 10Cosplay/ (Cosplay.toc Locales/esES.lua Locales/locales.xml): |
| 09:47.01 | CIA-41 | Cosplay: |
| 09:47.02 | CIA-41 | - esES added |
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| 09:48.57 | Quezacolt_ | What's the difference between a spell failing and getting interrupted? Lines 116-120 of CastingBarFrame.lua confuse me... |
| 09:49.39 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r73189 10ButtonFacade/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:49.39 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade: |
| 09:49.39 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.23 | SunTsu | Quezacolt_: Fail - You don't have mana, interrupt - someone did CS to you - at least that's how I understood it |
| 09:50.52 | Quezacolt_ | Okay, makes sense |
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| 10:09.15 | vithos | i think i am finally somewhat content with my ui. this is odd. |
| 10:09.44 | vithos | http://i31.tinypic.com/2qklczq.jpg |
| 10:11.01 | vithos | though my msbt config needs work. |
| 10:11.04 | vithos | so maybe i lied |
| 10:11.33 | Aiiane | ew @ blocky font on msbt |
| 10:12.22 | vithos | i think i'm going to turn off all outgoing damage stuff and use the blizzard default for that |
| 10:13.45 | Aiiane | eh, i like having the outgoing in a standardized place |
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| 10:14.12 | Aiiane | although in my case, that's in Eavesdrop, not combattext ;) |
| 10:14.14 | vithos | hmm.. i tend to just ignore it anyway |
| 10:14.25 | vithos | i don't really care what my shots are hitting for |
| 10:14.40 | vithos | but i like the visual feedback |
| 10:14.43 | Aiiane | I'm a destro lock... I care a lot about if my past 3 shadowbolts all just crit |
| 10:14.55 | Aiiane | because that probably means i need to watch aggro closely |
| 10:14.56 | vithos | ah, for threat? |
| 10:15.17 | vithos | i use a custom audio alert (TTS voice saying "threat") at 85% |
| 10:15.23 | vithos | and screen flashing |
| 10:15.23 | Aiiane | a crit chain at the start of a fight pretty much guarantees ill pull if i dont hold back |
| 10:15.50 | Aiiane | lol... 85% of tank threat I'd never geat the warning, i'm typically around 95% the entire fight if not slightly more on certain fights |
| 10:15.54 | Aiiane | *never get |
| 10:16.29 | vithos | i pretty much ride the threat cap for the first 3 feign deaths |
| 10:16.36 | vithos | but yeah, lots of smaller, faster hits |
| 10:16.44 | Aiiane | ah, how i wish i had FD :P |
| 10:17.11 | grzesieq | i wish shatter wouldnt be able to partially resist :/ |
| 10:17.21 | Aiiane | that too |
| 10:17.22 | vithos | i wish feign death wouldn't be able to be interrupted |
| 10:17.31 | grzesieq | btw, nice ui vithos |
| 10:17.39 | vithos | thanks grzesieq |
| 10:18.01 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: ping ~.~ |
| 10:18.36 | buu | Your UI is beautiful and makes me sad. |
| 10:18.49 | SunTsu | vithos: Yeah, nice, reminds my that I need to reorder my UI badly |
| 10:19.13 | Aiiane | hmm.. it's a little out of date |
| 10:19.16 | grzesieq | vithos: which UF's are these? |
| 10:19.21 | Aiiane | but this is fairly close to my warlock's current UI: http://aiiane.net/images/ui_apr_08.jpg |
| 10:19.31 | Nargiddley | [SW]Dodge, whats up ? |
| 10:19.33 | vithos | grzesieq: oUF_P3lim |
| 10:19.42 | vithos | and Grid of course |
| 10:19.54 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: you made acegui3 ? |
| 10:19.59 | Nargiddley | yeah |
| 10:20.02 | buu | http://erxz.com/tmp/ui.jpg |
| 10:20.06 | buu | My ui is hideous. |
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| 10:20.23 | vithos | my ui has been terrible for the longest time |
| 10:20.30 | vithos | but once a month i trash it completely |
| 10:20.40 | vithos | start over fresh, but never really get happy with it |
| 10:20.45 | vithos | but this time it actually worked |
| 10:20.46 | [SW]Dodge | ok =) i hve a question, why every widget uses yellow font but "description" and "toggle" white? (in aceconfigdialog^^) |
| 10:21.08 | buu | vithos: Do you know of any unit frames that go vertical? |
| 10:21.10 | Aiiane | buu, why corruption on that big bar, but not CoA or the like? |
| 10:21.16 | grzesieq | buu: clicker? :> |
| 10:21.22 | buu | Aiiane: It's just a range check |
| 10:21.25 | Aiiane | ic |
| 10:21.36 | buu | Every spell there either has a different range or a cooldown |
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| 10:21.44 | Aiiane | i assumed you had spells keybound |
| 10:21.47 | Aiiane | but yeah, that makes sense |
| 10:21.56 | buu | I actually replaced them with wotf/trinket so it's just a cooldown check now |
| 10:21.57 | vithos | buu: hmm.. i remember seeing one but i can't remember a name. i've never really been a fan of HUD-style unit frames |
| 10:21.57 | SunTsu | My basic problem is that I have too much bars and too little space |
| 10:22.13 | buu | Aiiane: Well, unless you assume I click but only use 4 spells.. |
| 10:22.48 | Aiiane | lol buu |
| 10:22.48 | Aiiane | i /could/ assume you were a terrible warlock :P |
| 10:22.48 | Aiiane | but i won't ;) |
| 10:22.53 | buu | All the stuff that's keybound is hidden |
| 10:22.56 | Aiiane | and technically, you might also use detect invis and underwater breathing :P |
| 10:22.59 | buu | Because there's no reason to look at it |
| 10:23.17 | buu | Underwater breathing is totally clickable =/ |
| 10:24.06 | buu | I think the unit frames are slightly missaligned in that picture also. |
| 10:24.12 | Aiiane | i thought i recalled a plugin for pitbull that would let it do vertical frames |
| 10:24.18 | Aiiane | but i might just be on crack |
| 10:24.51 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: ? |
| 10:25.05 | grzesieq | lol, i just got an sms that my university is on fire |
| 10:25.08 | Ozguli | that UI could also be scaled a bit, imo |
| 10:25.13 | grzesieq | i hope no classes on monday :D |
| 10:25.21 | CIA-41 | 03zhucc * r73190 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc Locals/ARLLocals-zhTW.lua): |
| 10:25.21 | CIA-41 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 10:25.21 | CIA-41 | - zhTW add |
| 10:25.51 | buu | Ozguli: Mine? |
| 10:25.56 | Nargiddley | [SW]Dodge, no idea |
| 10:26.01 | Ozguli | buu yes |
| 10:26.21 | buu | I guess a bit. |
| 10:26.23 | vithos | [SW]Dodge: CDB is yours right? |
| 10:26.27 | Ozguli | just my personal opinion, I prefer to have minimum amount of things visible |
| 10:26.29 | buu | vithos: Do you have a focus frame? |
| 10:26.32 | Ozguli | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/ui/drood_ui_042808_135906.jpg http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/ui/WoWui_042808_134234.jpg |
| 10:26.53 | vithos | buu: yes, Primerozor is my current focus (above my player frame on the left) |
| 10:27.02 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: i looked at the widget files and there they use GameFontHilight and GameFontighlight small while the others use GameFontNormal |
| 10:27.06 | [SW]Dodge | vithos: yes |
| 10:27.14 | buu | Ah |
| 10:27.46 | buu | Ozguli: My problem is finding enough room so stuff like focus cast bars / target cast bars are highly visible and distinguishable. |
| 10:27.46 | Nargiddley | [SW]Dodge, looking at it. it seems to be consistant with the blizzard widgets |
| 10:28.02 | Nargiddley | so that will be why |
| 10:28.04 | vithos | [SW]Dodge: it finally found a permanent home in my ui <3 |
| 10:28.11 | Nargiddley | is it a problem or something ? |
| 10:28.26 | Ozguli | check my links, the other one has cast bars above/below the frames |
| 10:28.51 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: not directly a problem, but i think it does not look well in my config dialog :P |
| 10:28.52 | buu | "we had to tweak things in order to allow vertical bars)." |
| 10:29.11 | Nargiddley | well it looks the same as the bliz pages to me |
| 10:29.34 | [SW]Dodge | http://dodgex.servegame.com/cdb.jpg ^^ |
| 10:30.01 | Nargiddley | looks fine |
| 10:30.15 | [SW]Dodge | vithos: =)) |
| 10:30.15 | Nargiddley | ignoring the font |
| 10:30.27 | grzesieq | so, which bar mod works with buttonfacade? |
| 10:30.30 | [SW]Dodge | ok...^^ |
| 10:30.36 | SunTsu | grzesieq: bt4 |
| 10:30.37 | vithos | BT4 does |
| 10:30.39 | [SW]Dodge | grzesieq: bt4 |
| 10:30.43 | grzesieq | \o/ |
| 10:30.59 | buu | [SW]Dodge: Are those just.. your cooldowns? |
| 10:31.16 | SunTsu | grzesieq: But it is far from done. You won't have any bag bar |
| 10:31.23 | Nargiddley | man looking at the bliz windows they aren't even consistant with themselves |
| 10:31.25 | grzesieq | don't need that ;-) |
| 10:31.27 | [SW]Dodge | buu: yes |
| 10:31.36 | Nargiddley | white and yellow randomly |
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| 10:31.52 | starlon | wtf is addon.moreoptions supposed to be? |
| 10:32.04 | vithos | [SW]Dodge: how can i combine all the potion cooldowns into one? |
| 10:32.10 | starlon | in Ace3 |
| 10:32.46 | vithos | [SW]Dodge: just leave "other potions" enabled and nothing else? |
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| 10:33.12 | [SW]Dodge | vithos: currently the only way is to add thier itemids in "itemsgroups.lua" :/ |
| 10:33.30 | vithos | well i can get it to show just one icon that looks like a rejuv pot |
| 10:33.40 | vithos | but i'm just wondering if that's not going to show up if i don't have a rejuv pot on me |
| 10:34.45 | grzesieq | bleh, I have too many buttons to make a good looking layout |
| 10:34.52 | chead | [Ammo]: really do seems like it the same dungeon and same bosses those 25man vs. 10 man raids in wotlk: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/6408120757.htm |
| 10:34.59 | Aiiane | work on optimizing your button usage then, grz :) |
| 10:35.42 | SunTsu | grzesieq: Same here. And I try to use the basically same interface for 5 classes I play... |
| 10:35.43 | [SW]Dodge | vithos: hm... i dont understand what you mean>.< (i'm a german englishnoob^^) |
| 10:38.07 | vithos | [SW]Dodge: on the "Hide Items" page, there's checkboxes for all different kinds of potions (haste, healing, major rejuvination, mana, and "show other potions"). currently "other" is showing a rejuv potion icon, but what i want to know is, is it showing up because rejuv is classified as "other", or does it just pick any kind of potion there is |
| 10:38.15 | thul | silas in weeds annoys me |
| 10:40.47 | [SW]Dodge | it shows the rejuv icon becouse the icon is set as texture for "other potions" ^^ |
| 10:40.56 | vithos | ah |
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| 10:41.28 | vithos | alright, i see. it's because i have arcane protection pots that it's showing up |
| 10:41.51 | vithos | i'll just edit a new button into there that contains all the categories |
| 10:42.44 | [SW]Dodge | yes, for teh rewrite i'll try to find a good way to make own item groupings ingame. |
| 10:47.26 | buu | Wow forums should just add a mod that automatically revokes posts that contain the words "didn't read" |
| 10:50.10 | Vulcanus | and from people not posting on a lv70 or has less than 1500 arena rating :p |
| 10:51.17 | thul | exactly :-P |
| 10:51.27 | thul | let us give the forums to the nolifers :-D |
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| 10:54.38 | ennuilg | tl;dr annoys me immensely. I mean, why tell people you're too lazy to read a few paragraphs and then expect us to take note of your opinion. |
| 10:55.06 | Fisker- | haha charon |
| 10:55.07 | Fisker- | chead |
| 10:55.11 | Fisker- | drysc owns himself again |
| 10:56.19 | Fisker- | man |
| 10:56.33 | Fisker- | he just doesn't bother anymore |
| 10:58.59 | Fisker- | man |
| 10:59.07 | grzesieq | http://grzesieq.bingodisk.com/public/img/ui.jpeg meh, that looks fugly |
| 10:59.08 | Fisker- | i should have forum accesson the us forums |
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| 10:59.39 | Aiiane | could use some more borders imo, grzesieq |
| 10:59.43 | Fisker- | so i could flame him for being an idiot so he in the end goes mad and leaves like tseric |
| 11:01.07 | grzesieq | Aiiane: uh, what do you mean? |
| 11:01.33 | Aiiane | on things like the minimap, etc |
| 11:01.43 | Aiiane | they just look less clean because of a lack of clear definition on their edges |
| 11:02.03 | Aiiane | even a few pixels border would make those sharper and thus look less raggedy |
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| 11:05.32 | Orionshock | anyone know of an addon that annoucnes the ppl that are afk in raid chat from a ready check? |
| 11:05.50 | grzesieq | hm, I guess I'll have to learn how to use eepanels or something like that ;) |
| 11:05.57 | starlon | oRA2 will |
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| 11:06.08 | starlon | afaik |
| 11:06.30 | starlon | It doesn't always seem to work though. |
| 11:06.31 | Aiiane | readycheck announces it to everyone who has assist |
| 11:06.45 | Aiiane | (by default) |
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| 11:07.27 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73191 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 4 dirs): CoolDownButtons: reimplemented main configuration for Buttonbars (not complete yet but working) |
| 11:07.30 | vithos | grzesieq: i used kgpanels for my ui |
| 11:08.45 | Orionshock | right, but to raid chat |
| 11:09.16 | starlon | oh |
| 11:09.43 | Aiiane | I don't know of one offhand, Orionshock |
| 11:09.45 | starlon | It'd be easy to write one. |
| 11:10.16 | Orionshock | pug aq40 is FTL |
| 11:10.47 | grzesieq | killed cthun once with pug |
| 11:10.56 | grzesieq | had like 10 people who knew whats going on ;) |
| 11:11.34 | starlon | cthun at 70 is still pretty hard heh |
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| 11:16.51 | grzesieq | is it normal that last message in chat has different size than the rest, using chatter? :P |
| 11:19.45 | home|prophy | anyone know if mouseover target macros work in grid? |
| 11:19.54 | Aiiane | yes, they do |
| 11:20.25 | Fisker- | http://thingsididlastnight.com/ |
| 11:20.27 | Fisker- | oh me |
| 11:21.43 | Aiiane | on my pally, having a mouseover macro for taunt + grid is really, really handy |
| 11:22.00 | Aiiane | just look for a red aggro indicator dot, mouseover, hit taunt macro :P |
| 11:22.52 | buu | Hrm. |
| 11:22.59 | buu | If the unit frames can figure out who has aggro |
| 11:23.06 | buu | Could you build a taunt macro that asks them somehow? |
| 11:23.13 | buu | Oh, I guess not. |
| 11:24.17 | Fisker- | fail Aiiane |
| 11:24.27 | Fisker- | you could just have it on mouseclick |
| 11:24.29 | Fisker- | or something else |
| 11:24.35 | Fisker- | also |
| 11:25.22 | odt | yeah, just use the macro on the mobs targettarget |
| 11:25.33 | odt | on your targettarget i mean |
| 11:26.33 | Lukian | Aiiane, yeah I have righteous defense bound to alt+left click |
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| 11:26.54 | Lukian | so simple alt+leftclick on any banzai coloured unitframe, or such, :D |
| 11:26.58 | buu | odt: That seems saner. |
| 11:28.32 | Fisker- | you can just use the macro on the mob |
| 11:28.33 | Fisker- | duh |
| 11:28.57 | Aiiane | Fisker-: I don't like click-casting |
| 11:29.16 | Aiiane | Also, the mob that's aggroing them is not necessarily the one I'm focusing on. |
| 11:29.35 | Fisker- | was directed at odt |
| 11:30.00 | Aiiane | also, you dont even need to use a macro for RD anymore to use it on mobs |
| 11:30.13 | Aiiane | it automatically uses it on targettarget if the target is hostile |
| 11:30.36 | Fisker- | duh |
| 11:30.41 | Fisker- | which is why it was directed at odt |
| 11:30.51 | Aiiane | i know, i was just remarking in general :P |
| 11:31.06 | odt | nice |
| 11:31.10 | Aiiane | although you did say "use the macro" :P |
| 11:31.21 | odt | my pally has not used RD for over a year |
| 11:31.22 | Aiiane | though i suppose you were referring to the mouseover one |
| 11:31.35 | Aiiane | odt: holy/ret? |
| 11:31.39 | odt | holy |
| 11:31.42 | Aiiane | aha :P |
| 11:31.46 | home|prophy | i can't mouseover heal using grid anymore with my macro |
| 11:31.59 | home|prophy | cast [target=mouseover,exists,help][exists,help][target=player] Lifebloo |
| 11:32.03 | odt | i used to have a clique combo for it though, but i dont remember what it was |
| 11:32.05 | home|prophy | is the macro |
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| 11:40.40 | sb | Saroz: do you plan to implement dynamic status texts? (call AddStatusMap() from ingame dialog + add filter) |
| 11:41.38 | Bruners | home|prophy: think it works without macro |
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| 11:43.01 | Bruners | home|prophy: if you just bind clique directly to lifebloom it should work with mouseover |
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| 11:43.09 | Bruners | home|prophy: thats what i do with cleanse atleast |
| 11:50.15 | vithos | hmm.. i just thought of a strange way to visualize threat |
| 11:50.36 | Fisker- | i just thought of a better way |
| 11:50.40 | vithos | think of sand in an hourglass, that's draining out the bottom, but you keep adding chunks of sand on top with threat gains |
| 11:50.42 | Fisker- | if you have too much threat you\re dead |
| 11:50.44 | Fisker- | baww |
| 11:51.21 | vithos | but layer your own threat on top of the tank's threat, and make it dynamically scale to show how much of a lead the tank has |
| 11:51.58 | vithos | but keep the same ratio for the bar's width vs height scale, so that you can actually have perspective without reading numbers |
| 11:52.19 | vithos | the more it's zoomed out, the thinner it appears, etc |
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| 11:54.41 | vithos | i guess more like a thermometer than an hourglass |
| 11:55.28 | vithos | but something more like an hourglass could show tps |
| 11:55.53 | winkiller | argh., Low Mana warning sound, that was PitBull, right? I always forget the place where to turn it off - any ideas |
| 11:57.47 | Elkano | MSBT? |
| 11:57.59 | vithos | is it just a sound, or sound + text message? |
| 11:58.17 | winkiller | oh right, sct |
| 11:59.24 | vithos | what's the max length of a character name? |
| 11:59.29 | winkiller | 12 |
| 11:59.33 | vithos | ty |
| 11:59.57 | winkiller | sct was it, thanks |
| 12:00.00 | winkiller | I *never* find that |
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| 12:01.39 | home|prophy | Bruners: i want to bind my LB and rejuv to like my normal 1 and 3 keys...i just mouseover the guy on grid and hit 1 or 3...thats how i use my mouseovermacros...but they dont work now with new grid it seems. |
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| 12:32.33 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73192 10CoolDownButtons/ (6 files in 4 dirs): CoolDownButtons: Added "Show/Hide Anchor" Button |
| 12:32.41 | CIA-41 | 03nicksmith * r73193 10TMrecruit/Core.lua: TMrecruit: locale fix |
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| 12:33.47 | Squiddely_ | so |
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| 12:35.45 | Aerr | Anyone for some Ui suggestions? |
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| 12:42.53 | CIA-41 | 03Avitus * r73194 10SimpleDrumAnnounce/SimpleDrumAnnounce.toc: |
| 12:42.53 | CIA-41 | SimpleDrumAnnounce: |
| 12:42.53 | CIA-41 | -Updated toc. |
| 12:43.07 | Aerr | Anyways. trying to make my totemus fit in with my UI more |
| 12:43.10 | Aerr | http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08195/wowscrnshot_050908_073615277.jpg |
| 12:43.34 | Aerr | any suggestion, let me know. I'll make any graphical needs for an idea, i jst cant think of one |
| 12:44.49 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73195 10CoolDownButtons/ (3 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: fixed anchor to overlay cooldowns^^ |
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| 12:52.11 | CIA-41 | 03Avitus 071.2 * r73196 10SimpleDrumAnnounce/ (10 files in 2 dirs): -Tagged 1.21 |
| 12:52.29 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73197 10CoolDownButtons/ (4 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: moved content of Init.lua to Core.lua (old core.lua content is gone) |
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| 13:15.03 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73198 10CoolDownButtons/ (5 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: added Items Cooldown Module |
| 13:22.09 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r73199 10InFlight/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:22.09 | CIA-41 | InFlight: |
| 13:22.10 | CIA-41 | - Maked a localized version addon. Locales files in separated directory. |
| 13:22.10 | CIA-41 | - enUS.lua: Moved enUS UI messages to your file. |
| 13:22.10 | CIA-41 | - esES added |
| 13:26.24 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73200 10CoolDownButtons/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:26.24 | CIA-41 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 13:26.24 | CIA-41 | - added itemgroups |
| 13:26.24 | CIA-41 | - removed debug messages |
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| 13:27.47 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r73201 10InFlight_Load/ (InFlight_Load.lua InFlight_Load.toc embeds.xml): |
| 13:27.47 | CIA-41 | InFlight_Load |
| 13:27.48 | CIA-41 | - esES added |
| 13:27.48 | CIA-41 | - LibBabble-Zone-3.0 added |
| 13:27.48 | CIA-41 | - Used Babble-Zone in POIdata db zone text to work in all languages. |
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| 13:28.20 | [Liquidor] | Hi everyone :-) |
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| 13:38.23 | Aerr | sup |
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| 13:44.43 | erzy | What Command is it for "BUttonFacade"? |
| 13:45.30 | Aerr | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 13:45.40 | erzy | and does "/cast [nameofplayerhere] Intervene" work? |
| 13:46.10 | Aerr | i do not beleive so |
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| 13:47.11 | Aerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.12 | Aerr | /target Name of player here |
| 13:47.14 | Aerr | /stopmacro [help,noexists] |
| 13:47.15 | Aerr | /cast Intervene |
| 13:47.26 | SunTsu | erzy: No |
| 13:47.29 | Aerr | so it doesnt intervene target of target |
| 13:47.35 | SunTsu | erzy: /target player |
| 13:48.10 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.31 | SunTsu | cogwheel: That really works? |
| 13:48.46 | Aerr | cogwheel, i havent been able to get [target=nameofplayer] to work anymore |
| 13:48.47 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=43D917F5A9B4F9A67495DF84F84D9F46.app09_07?topicId=3881820910&sid=1 ;) |
| 13:49.03 | cogwheel | Aerr: it only works on party or raid members |
| 13:49.12 | jy_ | [target=raidmemberx] ? |
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| 13:49.26 | SunTsu | cogwheel: Great, thanks |
| 13:49.27 | cogwheel | jy_: that's the unit id, yes... i'm talking about using names |
| 13:49.37 | cogwheel | you can only use names if they're in your party/raid |
| 13:49.45 | jy_ | ^^ |
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| 13:51.17 | Aerr | so. now that people are here |
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| 13:51.27 | ravagernl | people, can an addon be written to emulate cycircled with buttonfacade? |
| 13:51.32 | Aerr | what graphic can i put around totemus to make it match, or look better |
| 13:51.33 | jy_ | i shoud try a /castsequence [target=MT1] Lifebloom,[target=MT2], Lifebloom,etc |
| 13:51.45 | Aerr | http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08195/wowscrnshot_050908_073615277.jpg |
| 13:51.46 | cogwheel | jy_: won't work |
| 13:51.51 | SunTsu | cogwheel: While we're at it and you seem to be a specialist ;) Is there any way to use different Speels in castsequences by using a modifier? |
| 13:51.51 | jy_ | :'( |
| 13:51.56 | jy_ | too bad |
| 13:52.05 | cogwheel | but you can do that with my addon MacroSequence ;) |
| 13:52.09 | jy_ | i'll have to use my mouse then :p |
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| 13:52.15 | jy_ | oh |
| 13:52.31 | cogwheel | points SunTsu to the link above |
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| 13:52.56 | jy_ | (i've been always impressed with my druide to be able to top healmeter with only 1 key spamming |
| 13:53.22 | jy_ | everytime i try to use more intellegent healing sequences my efficiency drop |
| 13:53.27 | AvitusLC | Anyone know if you can manipulate the volume a sound is played in a mod? |
| 13:53.46 | cogwheel | jy_: /win imo... I wish more people realized that |
| 13:53.58 | cogwheel | so many people think mods are absolutely required to play this game |
| 13:54.27 | cogwheel | SunTsu: part II of the guide has everything you need to know about conditionals |
| 13:55.06 | SunTsu | cogwheel: Yeah, I'm searching through it right now, it's just that I want something like /cast [modifier=alt] onespell; otherspell - in the middle of a cast sequence. And I can't figure out how to do that or if it is even possible |
| 13:55.15 | cogwheel | oh |
| 13:55.18 | cogwheel | that's not |
| 13:55.27 | SunTsu | Damn, I knew it ;) |
| 13:55.29 | cogwheel | but MacroSequence can |
| 13:55.40 | SunTsu | Thanks, I'll look at it |
| 13:55.46 | ravagernl | cogwheel, would macrosequence the kind of addon to make 1:2 rotation a button press :P |
| 13:56.08 | cogwheel | not sue what you mean? |
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| 13:56.14 | cogwheel | s/sue/sure/ |
| 13:56.45 | ravagernl | would macrosequence be the kind of addon to make a hunter's 1:2 rotation a one button press |
| 13:57.06 | cogwheel | addons can't change the number of clicks you need to do things |
| 13:57.41 | cogwheel | all macrosequence does is extend the /castsequence concept to using full macros in each step |
| 13:57.50 | ravagernl | 1:2, I mean 1:1.5 ofcourse |
| 13:57.53 | cogwheel | but you still have to have the steps themselves |
| 13:59.13 | CIA-41 | 03kneeki * r73202 10ClassButtons/Localization.lua: |
| 13:59.13 | CIA-41 | ClassButtons: |
| 13:59.13 | CIA-41 | - Updated Localization.lua to fix order/placement of Shaman totems. Thanks Stephon/Doomhammer! |
| 13:59.36 | SunTsu | cogwheel: Great, your addon seems to be exactly what I was looking for |
| 13:59.50 | cogwheel | cool :) |
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| 14:02.37 | SunTsu | Oh, I have to edit lua code, damn. then it's useless to me. "Oh, one moment, I'll have to /reload ui to change my macro" |
| 14:03.21 | cogwheel | that'll change soon... |
| 14:03.51 | SunTsu | That would be great. I tend to adapt my macros a lot |
| 14:04.30 | cogwheel | MacroSequence is on the top of my todo list for when I actually have time to spend on my addons :P |
| 14:04.39 | cogwheel | (and the GUI is about 2/3 finished) |
| 14:05.48 | cogwheel | http://eternalblue.dnsalias.net/MacroSequence.jpg |
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| 14:07.07 | SunTsu | cogwheel: awsome. Then it'd exactly what I am looking for ;) |
| 14:07.28 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 14:07.42 | cogwheel | Even in its current state it's got an order of magnitude more downloads than any of my other mods... |
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| 14:07.51 | cogwheel | how'd that happen? |
| 14:08.21 | SunTsu | cogwheel: Well, it reads impressive |
| 14:08.48 | SunTsu | I'll give it a try tonight, anyway with my afflock |
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| 14:19.50 | skylah | yo, I was just wondering that isnt it possible to fade out player frame when you are not in combat? |
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| 14:21.24 | cogwheel | skylah: Goose can hide any named frame based on any macro condition |
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| 14:23.17 | skylah | ah okay. Just found the thing how to fade player frame in pitbull. But is it possible to fade so that it cant be seen at all? :o |
| 14:23.53 | nappy- | is ther an addon like cycircled for bar textures ? |
| 14:24.05 | ravagernl | nappy: buttonfacade |
| 14:24.11 | nappy- | thanks |
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| 14:25.11 | Punkie | uh what |
| 14:25.17 | Punkie | sharedmedia surely? |
| 14:25.24 | ravagernl | nappy: or do you mean something to put behind your actionbars? |
| 14:25.48 | SunTsu | ravagernl: I think he was talking about casting bars and such |
| 14:25.50 | nappy- | nono ;> |
| 14:27.41 | SunTsu | nappy-: What kind of bars are you talking about? |
| 14:29.15 | Funkeh` | anyone playing on french/german servers? |
| 14:29.31 | Elkano | y? |
| 14:29.52 | Elkano | and mybe you're rather looking for clients in that language, aren't you? |
| 14:29.59 | Funkeh` | no |
| 14:30.01 | Funkeh` | just the server |
| 14:30.09 | nappy- | life, mana, buff, bars etc. |
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| 14:30.21 | SunTsu | Funkeh`: Yeah |
| 14:30.23 | Punkie | nappy- I think you are looking for sharedmedia |
| 14:30.39 | SunTsu | nappy-: SharedMedia, aye |
| 14:30.42 | Funkeh` | SunTsu, Does gold spam tend to be in french/german or english? |
| 14:30.45 | nappy- | ok thank you |
| 14:30.58 | SunTsu | Funkeh`: Most of the time it is in horrible english |
| 14:31.06 | Elkano | yeah |
| 14:31.16 | ravagernl | lol goldspam sis always horrible english |
| 14:31.18 | SunTsu | Or in german which bablefish does better |
| 14:31.24 | Funkeh` | SunTsu, Are you playing on french or german? |
| 14:31.33 | SunTsu | Funkeh`: On a german realm |
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| 14:34.40 | TNSe | hrm, is there any reason to use swstats anymore? |
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| 14:35.02 | TNSe | or should I change over to something else thats updated more than never :P |
| 14:36.22 | Punkie | Violation still works pretty well for me |
| 14:36.27 | isman | Funkeh`: im playing on french and the spams are in french :| |
| 14:36.36 | isman | well, kinda horrible french tho' |
| 14:36.47 | haste | bablefish :D |
| 14:36.57 | Funkeh` | grr |
| 14:37.06 | chiper | omg, this deathknight info is awesome |
| 14:37.06 | Funkeh` | this is ruining my plans! |
| 14:37.15 | Funkeh` | damnit haste |
| 14:37.24 | haste | :D |
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| 14:37.40 | chiper | "Death Grip -- This is the Death Knight's "taunt" ability. It also pulls the target to the Death Knight, forcing them to attack the Death Knight for a short amount of time. Yes, I said pulls the target;" FUCKING A! |
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| 14:37.56 | chiper | I am totally making a batch of mortal kombat macros |
| 14:38.04 | SunTsu | chiper: wtf |
| 14:38.10 | Fisker- | makes sense though |
| 14:38.13 | chdst | GET OVER HERE! |
| 14:38.24 | haste | *ugh* *slide* |
| 14:38.40 | SunTsu | .o0( Death knight 5:5 anyone? ) |
| 14:38.55 | chiper | this so awesome, it's like they took all the best abilities of every class and put them together as one |
| 14:39.12 | ravagernl | chiper: url? |
| 14:39.18 | DARKGuy | then you'll end up seeing 128971438 death knights in bgs? |
| 14:39.20 | chiper | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
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| 14:39.41 | Fisker- | i'm still not that impressed |
| 14:39.44 | Fisker- | i want unholy aura :D |
| 14:39.44 | SunTsu | .o0( I'd like to solo MH heroic, then ;) ) |
| 14:39.45 | chiper | yeah, outland is going to be full of deathknights |
| 14:39.49 | skylah | hmm, anyone knows is it possible to hide player frame for good with pitbul frames when you are not in combat? |
| 14:39.50 | Fisker- | "Oh there you are mr. rogue" |
| 14:39.50 | Fisker- | :D |
| 14:39.51 | chdst | Death Knight tug of war :P |
| 14:40.10 | DARKGuy | skylah: combat fader |
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| 14:40.29 | DARKGuy | death knights seem way too overpowered imho |
| 14:40.44 | chdst | Alittle too...deathy? |
| 14:40.44 | skylah | DARKGuy you sure it hides whole frame, not just fading it? |
| 14:41.03 | Fisker- | they've already said that they're going to be putting some insane shit on other classes as well |
| 14:41.07 | DARKGuy | skylah: you can put it to zero opacity... that'll hide it but I can't recall if you can still click it |
| 14:41.10 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: The question is what you can use them fort |
| 14:41.18 | SunTsu | s/t$// |
| 14:41.20 | DARKGuy | SunTsu: tanking? :P |
| 14:41.23 | chiper | it doesnt say what kind of armor they'll be wearing |
| 14:41.33 | Fisker- | doesn't matter |
| 14:41.41 | Punkie | I don't think WotLK will revive WoW for me :( |
| 14:41.45 | Fisker- | the deathknights are designed to tank spellcasters |
| 14:41.46 | Fisker- | also |
| 14:41.50 | DARKGuy | I'd bet they can only wear cloth and still kill you |
| 14:41.57 | Fisker- | deathknights = fallen paladins so plate obviouslly |
| 14:42.00 | Fisker- | obviously* |
| 14:42.03 | chiper | but it sounds like death knight is meant to be a prime against caster damage, so they probably aren't that great at melee |
| 14:42.06 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: Yeah, sure, but the question still is: What are they allowed to enter |
| 14:42.24 | DARKGuy | SunTsu: what do you mean exactly o,o? |
| 14:43.04 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: I really expect there to be limits to where you can use the Death Knight gamewise |
| 14:43.21 | Fisker- | there won't be |
| 14:43.22 | Fisker- | why? |
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| 14:43.26 | DARKGuy | SunTsu: me too, I wouldn't be able to stand seeing DKs everywhere even outside outlands :/ |
| 14:43.36 | chiper | holy shit... "All raid dungeons in Wrath of the Lich King will have both 10-person and 25-person versions. So at level 80, every major encounter and every big boss fight can be experienced with a group of 10." |
| 14:43.40 | DARKGuy | I'd punch them all on their face right through my monitor |
| 14:43.41 | chiper | that's fucking awesome! |
| 14:43.43 | nappy- | ok with shared media i now have a lot of textures, but is there an way to activate the same texture for all addons ? |
| 14:43.43 | SunTsu | Fisker-: Because any other ways they will be much over powered |
| 14:43.57 | Fisker- | what do you mean? |
| 14:44.06 | chdst | It'll be just like BElf Pallis and Draenei Shamans after the expansions...that's all you could see for a while. |
| 14:44.28 | DARKGuy | they weren't -that- overpowered compared to this :/ |
| 14:44.34 | DARKGuy | though you could see draenei everywhere too |
| 14:44.35 | DARKGuy | xD |
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| 14:45.14 | chiper | it doesnt indicate what races will be able to play as deathknight |
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| 14:45.22 | SunTsu | Fisker-: For example, Battle grounds, or arena, who in his sane mind would go there if you can expect a normal team to match up 5 DKs? |
| 14:45.24 | chiper | tho I thought I heard there will be NO limit |
| 14:45.28 | Punkie | I take it that 'raised dead' spell won't be super effective on an opposition corpse :P |
| 14:45.38 | chiper | so I can make my gnome DK |
| 14:45.41 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 14:45.52 | chiper | Punkie: I'm guessing it'll be like shadow fiend |
| 14:46.00 | Fisker- | SunTsu how is that any different from a matchup of 5 <other same classes> |
| 14:46.11 | Fisker- | not everyone is going to level it to 80 |
| 14:46.14 | Punkie | chiper: it says the player can control the ghoul |
| 14:46.25 | DARKGuy | who cares what race can use DK? everyone will end up using that race just for the DK thing anyways |
| 14:46.30 | SunTsu | Fisker-: You already start at a high level with a DK |
| 14:46.32 | Fisker- | Punkie i doubt the enemy gets to control it :D |
| 14:46.36 | Fisker- | SunTsu level 55 |
| 14:46.49 | chiper | Punkie: I took that to mean the allied player who you're ghouling |
| 14:47.12 | Punkie | Fisker-: I'd attack [Ammo] if it worked that way :) |
| 14:47.15 | SunTsu | Fisker-: So a teamup of 5 DKs will be much more powerful than any combination of any other class |
| 14:47.30 | Fisker- | why is that? |
| 14:47.31 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 14:47.37 | chiper | SunTsu: there's nothing here about healing ability |
| 14:47.42 | chiper | or res |
| 14:47.56 | DARKGuy | 4 DK 1 healer |
| 14:47.58 | DARKGuy | pwnt. |
| 14:48.07 | chiper | 4 DK and a holy pally |
| 14:48.14 | SunTsu | Fisker-: Because they are described to be more powerful than any other class |
| 14:48.15 | DARKGuy | that's worse :P |
| 14:48.33 | DARKGuy | the sword alone is just atrocious, combine that with DK :( |
| 14:48.42 | Fisker- | [16:40:53] <Fisker-> they've already said that they're going to be putting some insane shit on other classes as well |
| 14:48.47 | chiper | oh sick... the videos show airborne vehiclular combat |
| 14:48.56 | DARKGuy | where?! |
| 14:49.04 | chiper | scroll down the page |
| 14:49.05 | SunTsu | Having Melee ability, plate, spells, nearly the whole deal. that's what the tease implies |
| 14:50.14 | SunTsu | chiper: Death Coil -- Depletes all Runic Power, dealing 600 damage to a non-Undead target, or healing 900 damage on a friendly target |
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| 14:50.28 | chiper | ah, didnt notice that |
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| 14:50.33 | chiper | 900 really isnt much tho |
| 14:50.54 | DARKGuy | sweet, finally a chance to make a radar addon :P |
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| 14:51.00 | Fisker- | You don't even know how their resource management is going to affect half of those spells |
| 14:51.01 | chiper | perhaps that's rank 1 |
| 14:51.28 | chiper | Fisker-: very true. you've got both energy AND rage to manage |
| 14:51.53 | SunTsu | Death Pact -- Sacrifices the raised ghouls to heal the Death Knight. |
| 14:52.15 | DARKGuy | damn, no more hiding with my dragon above shattrath from the horde for me anymore |
| 14:52.16 | SunTsu | There is said, that they have some runic energy |
| 14:52.28 | Fisker- | Runes and Runic Power |
| 14:52.39 | Fisker- | A spell will cost a combination of runes |
| 14:52.45 | Fisker- | you can have 6 runes up at a time |
| 14:52.54 | Fisker- | when they are depleted they have to recharge |
| 14:53.12 | Fisker- | When you use runes you then gain runic power |
| 14:53.17 | DARKGuy | so they have some weakness |
| 14:53.21 | Fisker- | which decays over time |
| 14:53.23 | Fisker- | DUH |
| 14:53.26 | CIA-41 | 03phyber * r73203 10Cosplay/Locales/esES.lua: |
| 14:53.26 | CIA-41 | Cosplay: |
| 14:53.26 | CIA-41 | - Fix the esES locale. It is not the default. |
| 14:53.38 | Fisker- | You think blizzard say down and said "So how can we screw up the game the most?" |
| 14:53.41 | Fisker- | sat* |
| 14:53.47 | DARKGuy | kinda |
| 14:53.49 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 14:53.59 | DARKGuy | I forsee a few DKs, some will use their runes and some won't |
| 14:54.23 | Fisker- | if you don't use runes you'll basically only melee |
| 14:54.25 | DARKGuy | 5 common vs 4 dk 1 pally. 1 DK uses runes and attacks, others do too.. 1st DK's runes deplete, 2nd activates them |
| 14:54.34 | DARKGuy | and so on |
| 14:55.07 | TNSe | game already has too many effects that makes you lose control of your char |
| 14:55.14 | TNSe | now they are gonna add in even more \o/ |
| 14:55.18 | DARKGuy | xD |
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| 14:55.57 | TNSe | game over for 100+ pinger |
| 14:57.01 | Chompers | Fisker- Fisker- Fisker- |
| 14:57.09 | TNSe | blizzard do some things that surprise me tho |
| 14:57.29 | TNSe | they first make stamina worth 2/3 of normal stat value |
| 14:57.38 | TNSe | and then add resilience |
| 14:57.50 | TNSe | to counter the fact that weapon/spell dps goes up and to counter crit |
| 14:57.54 | TNSe | then they add haste |
| 14:57.56 | TNSe | and make that common |
| 14:58.03 | TNSe | what counters haste again? |
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| 14:59.37 | Lukian | TNSe, Lag. |
| 14:59.38 | Lukian | <SunTsu> Fisker-: So a teamup of 5 DKs will be much more powerful than any combination of any other class <- fail |
| 14:59.55 | TNSe | dont see why 5 dk's will be powerful |
| 15:00.00 | Lukian | Death Knights are "just another class", there's nothing OP about them (pending tuning) |
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| 15:00.16 | Lukian | nothing more OP than a warlock can already do |
| 15:00.19 | TNSe | they dont seem to have any party buffs |
| 15:00.23 | TNSe | other than target debuffing |
| 15:00.40 | DARKGuy | they're more of a combination of druid+pally oO |
| 15:00.45 | DARKGuy | but some undead-ness |
| 15:00.53 | TNSe | druid+pally+lock+priest |
| 15:00.57 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 15:01.05 | DARKGuy | druid already heals so priest != true :P |
| 15:01.17 | TNSe | they are pvp tanks |
| 15:01.18 | DARKGuy | still :( |
| 15:01.18 | TNSe | :P |
| 15:01.25 | DARKGuy | hell yeah ¬¬ |
| 15:01.27 | DARKGuy | *hates* |
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| 15:01.30 | TNSe | they can get other players to move over to them |
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| 15:01.42 | TNSe | they will tank in pvp :P |
| 15:01.46 | Windcape | hey, why do the updater say "UNSTABLE" next to each revision update , when using the updater on allready installed addons? |
| 15:03.01 | TNSe | but I'm guessing priests will get knock in wotlk |
| 15:03.06 | TNSe | or telekinesis |
| 15:03.13 | TNSe | whatever the name will be |
| 15:03.21 | ravagernl | funny, how that opens perspectives for mutilating rogues and the like, or warriors trying to chase down mages |
| 15:03.24 | TNSe | punts hostile target 30 yards away |
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| 15:03.42 | DARKGuy | that reminds me of Kain |
| 15:03.47 | Aerr | grr |
| 15:03.58 | Aerr | cant seem to get this tga to work in eepanels2 |
| 15:04.10 | Aerr | i have the alpha set up right and all |
| 15:04.18 | Aerr | and its 512x512 |
| 15:04.33 | DARKGuy | kgpanels ftw |
| 15:04.40 | DARKGuy | anyways, did you try converting it to blp? oO |
| 15:06.15 | Aerr | no i havent dont really want to have to -_- |
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| 15:06.44 | Aerr | im going to tga no compression. and nothing shows up when i set it to the custom texture |
| 15:07.37 | ravagernl | save as png, and convert to blp with blp2png |
| 15:07.39 | ravagernl | imho |
| 15:07.57 | ravagernl | no fun in setting stupid alpha channel |
| 15:08.21 | DARKGuy | hm |
| 15:08.34 | DARKGuy | by any chance are you setting its name in eepanels as myfile.tga ? |
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| 15:09.21 | Aerr | logo.tga |
| 15:09.29 | DARKGuy | try "logo" instead |
| 15:09.36 | DARKGuy | reference: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=F5E997FB1E60FC0A87B36C71B03BD980.app09_08?topicId=6286733926&sid=1 |
| 15:09.48 | ravagernl | you have to use the path also |
| 15:09.53 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 15:10.01 | DARKGuy | like \\Interface\\AddOns\\eePanels\\YourUI\\playerframe |
| 15:11.13 | Aerr | i can do the path fine. i can do it with texture from premade UI's |
| 15:11.36 | Aerr | i even tryed using a pre-existing tga. resaved it, and doesnt work |
| 15:12.44 | ravagernl | what dimensions does the texture have? |
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| 15:13.16 | ravagernl | it has to be a power of 4, meaning 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 512 |
| 15:13.21 | ravagernl | and no larger then 512 |
| 15:14.16 | DARKGuy | he already said it was 512x512 |
| 15:14.53 | ravagernl | ok |
| 15:15.12 | ravagernl | and what settings you use when saving? |
| 15:15.21 | DARKGuy | <Aerr> im going to tga no compression. and nothing shows up when i set it to the custom texture |
| 15:15.40 | ravagernl | 24 bits? |
| 15:15.50 | DARKGuy | I'd say he could try converting to blp and trying, if it works then it's some issue with the tga |
| 15:15.52 | DARKGuy | no idea ask him :P |
| 15:15.56 | DARKGuy | Aerr --^ |
| 15:15.59 | Aerr | 32 |
| 15:16.20 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73204 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: v1.6 Using URL's again, damn non english speakers. Mixture of URL's/phrases, also has the report fix. |
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| 15:16.49 | ravagernl | aerr:try 24 |
| 15:17.27 | DARKGuy | 32-bit tga are hard to handle, programming wise. 24-bit should be no prob |
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| 15:17.50 | Aerr | nada |
| 15:17.57 | DARKGuy | 16 bit? |
| 15:17.57 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 15:18.02 | Aerr | nope either |
| 15:18.13 | DARKGuy | try without alpha channel ? |
| 15:18.14 | Aerr | has anyone here succesfully done it? |
| 15:18.15 | Aerr | xD |
| 15:18.21 | ravagernl | yup |
| 15:18.21 | DARKGuy | xD I did |
| 15:18.22 | kalahassi | if i created a newn npc-module for Threat-2.0 where do i have to list it, so it will get loaded properly once i engage the corresponding npc? |
| 15:19.00 | DARKGuy | http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9814/wowscrnshot022308041032ud3.jpg |
| 15:19.01 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 15:19.10 | ravagernl | but anyway, try saving as png, and then convert it to blp :) |
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| 15:19.24 | ravagernl | works easiest |
| 15:20.04 | Aerr | tryed |
| 15:20.06 | Aerr | no dice |
| 15:20.11 | DARKGuy | wt |
| 15:20.12 | DARKGuy | f |
| 15:20.12 | Viper_0000 | is there mod that, if people pst me with the commant !enchant |
| 15:20.22 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73205 10BadBoy/BadBoy.toc: BadBoy: tox fix |
| 15:20.22 | Viper_0000 | it'll just pst them back with a macro i made with a list of all my enchants |
| 15:20.28 | Viper_0000 | i dont really like that one with the searching |
| 15:20.29 | DARKGuy | Aerr: try resizing to 256? it's a blind guess |
| 15:20.43 | TNSe | haha DARKGuy :P |
| 15:20.56 | TNSe | diablo gui |
| 15:20.57 | DARKGuy | TNSe: haha why :P |
| 15:21.00 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 15:21.05 | DARKGuy | I'm a sucker for it |
| 15:21.05 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 15:21.09 | TNSe | I guess some elements could work |
| 15:21.19 | TNSe | but all round it wouldn't be too nice :P |
| 15:21.22 | TNSe | maybe for a mage |
| 15:21.47 | TNSe | it might work for a destro lock or a fire mage |
| 15:22.00 | TNSe | destro lock, primary: shadow bolt, secondary: curse of shadows :P |
| 15:22.03 | Aerr | this is annoying |
| 15:22.05 | Aerr | >.< |
| 15:22.28 | DARKGuy | TNSe: http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8223/wowscrnshot022308041131je8.jpg - http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/4739/wowscrnshot022308041104wh6.jpg :P |
| 15:22.37 | DARKGuy | haha yeah |
| 15:23.24 | Aerr | maybe someone can assist? im uploading the png |
| 15:23.26 | TNSe | wow just has too many abilities to allow for such a simple gui |
| 15:23.34 | DARKGuy | yeah :( |
| 15:23.44 | Aerr | http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08195/logo4266.png |
| 15:24.15 | DARKGuy | Aerr: I would love to help you but I'm at work =( |
| 15:24.21 | Aerr | >.< |
| 15:24.53 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73206 10PetAndMountDatabase/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:24.53 | CIA-41 | PetAndMountDatabase: Initial check in 1.0 |
| 15:24.53 | CIA-41 | - A database of all the minipet and mount item ids divided up into useful categories, can make use of libPeriodicTable-3.1 for some if PT3.1 is more up to date |
| 15:24.59 | Apoco | ~seen luxus |
| 15:25.02 | purl | luxus <n=luxus@L1526.l.pppool.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16h 35m 39s ago, saying: 'KriLL3: i have the same problem :D'. |
| 15:25.29 | dylanm | Is there a wowace forum policy on bumping posts like an idiot? |
| 15:25.33 | ravagernl | aerr: ill convert it |
| 15:25.42 | Aerr | ty :) |
| 15:25.56 | Aerr | it'll hopefully make totemu look better...finally. |
| 15:26.00 | Aerr | totemus* |
| 15:26.09 | DARKGuy | ohh |
| 15:26.13 | DARKGuy | that'd be something cool to see |
| 15:27.35 | Aerr | actually, i need to update my totemus to see my bear mount too |
| 15:27.47 | ravagernl | hmm, I wonder where iĺl upload it |
| 15:27.54 | DARKGuy | imageshack? |
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| 15:28.02 | ravagernl | no itś blp :P |
| 15:28.15 | Aerr | email it |
| 15:28.23 | Aerr | i'll pm you my email |
| 15:28.45 | DARKGuy | TNSe: this is my current UI though.. it works for all classes, I think you can have a lot of stuff in small space =) http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7572/wowscrnshot042708182515iv1.jpg |
| 15:28.49 | Aerr | gr. i need to register |
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| 15:29.31 | TNSe | thats more classic :P |
| 15:29.33 | DARKGuy | just imageshack it =( |
| 15:29.34 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 15:29.43 | DARKGuy | loosely inspired in lineage II xD |
| 15:29.51 | Aerr | ya, imageshack lets you do files, right? |
| 15:30.01 | ravagernl | nah wait |
| 15:30.03 | ravagernl | http://www.filefactory.com/file/334f22 |
| 15:30.04 | DARKGuy | hmm files nope |
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| 15:30.19 | DARKGuy | rapidsh!t or filefactory or gigasize or those |
| 15:30.20 | DARKGuy | yup |
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| 15:30.29 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73207 10PetAndMountDatabase/: |
| 15:30.29 | CIA-41 | PetAndMountDatabase: |
| 15:30.29 | CIA-41 | - Initial commit |
| 15:30.33 | ravagernl | lmao imageshack does indeed |
| 15:30.47 | DARKGuy | for images/videos/others yes o,o |
| 15:31.04 | Aerr | http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08195/wowscrnshot_050908_073615277.jpg is my ui atm |
| 15:31.10 | Aerr | trying to make totemus look better |
| 15:31.53 | DARKGuy | pretty sleek |
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| 15:31.56 | haste | and maybe make your buff list not take up valuable screenspace with it's background? |
| 15:32.09 | DARKGuy | I like the buff list bg, too bad it takes space =( |
| 15:32.26 | haste | resize it with the number of buffs :3 ? |
| 15:32.41 | ravagernl | hmm, could use a script to auto resize it |
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| 15:33.08 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73208 10Mount/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:33.08 | CIA-41 | Mount: initial commit 1.0 |
| 15:33.08 | CIA-41 | - Mount adds a button to your screen that will pick a random mount to use, or dismount option if you are on a mount. Using modifier keys will let you pick slower mounts or even ground mounts in outland. |
| 15:33.29 | haste | you should also make the button borders more consistent |
| 15:33.49 | haste | there's like five different borders |
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| 15:34.24 | DARKGuy | that too, but it looks better than some UIs I've seen in the past, to be semi-default... :P |
| 15:34.33 | DARKGuy | *for being |
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| 15:34.43 | ravagernl | bleehhh xperl |
| 15:34.50 | ravagernl | makes me a sad pally :( |
| 15:34.54 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 15:35.01 | DARKGuy | you even have the pally color in my irc client |
| 15:35.05 | Aerr | ravagernl, im not too script savy for eepanels |
| 15:35.26 | Aerr | nl= Netherlands by chance? |
| 15:35.29 | ravagernl | yeah, same for me, actually :p |
| 15:35.29 | DARKGuy | Aerr looks blue, like the shaman, and ironically... he is too! |
| 15:35.34 | ravagernl | yes im dutch |
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| 15:35.45 | Aerr | awesome. i have a friend that live in nl |
| 15:36.30 | ravagernl | I modified the paladin classcolor to be yellow |
| 15:36.33 | ravagernl | and rogue brown |
| 15:36.46 | ravagernl | because really, holy spells are always white or yellow |
| 15:36.55 | DARKGuy | and there are no holy rogues |
| 15:37.33 | ravagernl | agreed lol |
| 15:38.03 | Funkeh` | I consider myself to be pretty holy |
| 15:38.09 | Funkeh` | I kill the unholy ones |
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| 15:38.15 | ravagernl | Not sure yet what color I should give to warriors really, cant use red beause thatś for aggro |
| 15:38.20 | Aerr | would it really be possible to get eepanels to resize according to elkbuffbars? |
| 15:38.43 | ravagernl | yup |
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| 15:39.17 | Aerr | thats pretty crazy |
| 15:39.26 | DARKGuy | Aerr: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8139.msg162175#msg162175 |
| 15:39.28 | ravagernl | hook ebbś code when a buffbar shows or hides and then calculate the height with the number of buffs |
| 15:39.30 | Aerr | and also, this still isnt working |
| 15:39.37 | ravagernl | :/ |
| 15:39.46 | DARKGuy | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8139.msg161070#msg161070 |
| 15:40.27 | DARKGuy | whats your tga path? oO |
| 15:40.32 | DARKGuy | in windows & wow ? |
| 15:41.07 | Aerr | i've dont it interface\addons\eepanls2\logo4266.blp |
| 15:41.10 | ravagernl | hmm offcourse, dont even need to hook into ebb to autoresize it :p |
| 15:41.34 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73209 10Mount/: |
| 15:41.34 | CIA-41 | Mount |
| 15:41.34 | CIA-41 | - initial commit |
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| 15:41.54 | DARKGuy | eepanls2 ? |
| 15:41.58 | Aerr | yes |
| 15:42.01 | DARKGuy | eepanEls2! |
| 15:42.04 | Aerr | well |
| 15:42.08 | Aerr | im spelling it right |
| 15:42.09 | Aerr | lol |
| 15:42.13 | DARKGuy | oh |
| 15:42.13 | DARKGuy | xD |
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| 15:43.02 | Vig | hello guys |
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| 15:43.10 | DARKGuy | hi |
| 15:43.11 | Aerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:43.23 | DARKGuy | mm |
| 15:43.27 | Aerr | copyed from in game |
| 15:43.28 | DARKGuy | tried logo426 only ? |
| 15:43.33 | DARKGuy | *4266 |
| 15:43.37 | Aerr | yes |
| 15:43.38 | CIA-41 | 03snago * r73210 10oUF_PowerSpark/ (. oUF_PowerSpark.lua): |
| 15:43.38 | CIA-41 | oUF_PowerSpark: |
| 15:43.38 | CIA-41 | - Supersmart energy tick detection. Thanks to kergoth for showing me how he did in TickTock :) |
| 15:43.44 | Funkeh` | http://nihilum.mousesports.com/en/news/658,china__gold_farmers_arrested/ |
| 15:43.49 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73211 10MiniPet/ (12 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:43.49 | CIA-41 | MiniPet: initial commit 3.0 |
| 15:43.49 | CIA-41 | - MiniPet, Always keep your little companion with you! |
| 15:43.49 | CIA-41 | Commited for Breanni, http://www.warcraftpets.com/downloads/minipet_addon.asp |
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| 15:44.21 | RaydenUni | ok lvl 63 druid |
| 15:44.22 | RaydenUni | for tanking |
| 15:44.30 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 15:44.34 | RaydenUni | 2% 350 armor vs 50AP and chancel to heal for 90-120 on attack |
| 15:44.35 | Vig | i made my first version of AssignAssist, was not aware that when u put it in SVN it is immidiatly released, but now i have a basic version there |
| 15:44.39 | DARKGuy | haha he got pwned |
| 15:44.45 | RaydenUni | 2% chance on hit to give +350 armor for 15 seconds |
| 15:44.45 | Aerr | this is really bothering me -_- |
| 15:45.24 | DARKGuy | try another png |
| 15:45.26 | DARKGuy | or image |
| 15:45.32 | Vig | is there a way to commit sources but not release it to public yet |
| 15:45.51 | RaydenUni | also kitty druid +50 AP vs + 1.65% crit |
| 15:46.05 | grzesieq_ | is there any reason Baggins is shown as out of date? |
| 15:46.14 | Snago | Vig: You can commit to branches |
| 15:46.37 | ravagernl | still people can checkout a branch |
| 15:47.01 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73212 10MiniPet/: |
| 15:47.01 | CIA-41 | MiniPet |
| 15:47.01 | CIA-41 | - Initial commit |
| 15:47.12 | cncfanatics | if you don't want anything made public then don't commit |
| 15:47.27 | ennuilg | That's the beauty of open source - you put it out in the public and people might see it! |
| 15:47.38 | ennuilg | At least in branches it's not on files.wowace, or WAU. |
| 15:47.48 | ennuilg | So only those who are looking for it will see it |
| 15:47.49 | Vig | thats not the way to do it, my harddisk can crash u can work with multiple ppl on it, etc... |
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| 15:48.34 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73213 10Stable/ (. Libs/ Stable.lua Stable.toc embeds.xml localisation.lua): |
| 15:48.34 | CIA-41 | Stable: initial commit 1.0 |
| 15:48.34 | CIA-41 | - Stable is a continuation of Tekkub Stoutwrithe's Kennel, expanded to include mounts and ported to Ace2 |
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| 15:49.18 | balstor | installing XP SP 3, hmm wonder if itwill boot |
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| 15:50.21 | DARKGuy | is it out already? |
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| 15:50.52 | CIA-41 | 03snago * r73214 10oUF_PowerSpark/oUF_PowerSpark.lua: |
| 15:50.52 | CIA-41 | oUF_PowerSpark: |
| 15:50.52 | CIA-41 | - Comment/remove debug lines before commit |
| 15:50.52 | CIA-41 | ~lart Snago |
| 15:50.52 | purl | throws Snago's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 15:51.13 | Vig | Is there anyway to c if ur addon is downloaded/installed by users? |
| 15:52.08 | SunTsu | Vig: Only if you are on the same realm and in the same faction |
| 15:52.11 | kalahassi | is there a way to get the old threat-1.0 for educational studies somewhere? the oldest svn version is65702 by antiarc, and thats just some replacement-stuff and not hte original |
| 15:52.11 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73215 10Stable/: |
| 15:52.11 | CIA-41 | Stable |
| 15:52.11 | CIA-41 | - Initial commit |
| 15:52.31 | Snago | Vig: There's a thread on the HELP!-section with "AddonName isn't working!!!one!"? |
| 15:53.12 | Vig | was just hoping for webstats of downloads |
| 15:54.02 | Aerr | ravagernl it works with tga's that are from premade UI's |
| 15:54.27 | DARKGuy | Aerr: check those TGAs features? |
| 15:54.29 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73216 10Tabard/ (. Libs/ Tabard.lua Tabard.toc embeds.xml): |
| 15:54.29 | CIA-41 | Tabard: initial commit 1.0 |
| 15:54.29 | CIA-41 | - Tabard allows the automatic switching of the tabard you are wearing with one randomly picked from your bank or inventory when visiting the bank |
| 15:54.47 | Snago | kalahassi: "educational studies"? :S |
| 15:55.19 | kalahassi | basically i want to rewrite the pre-bc modules for threat-2.0 |
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| 15:56.38 | kalahassi | and its my first time coding in lua, so educational is correct ;) |
| 15:56.40 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: you around ? |
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| 15:57.00 | CIA-41 | 03LordFarlander * r73217 10Tabard/: |
| 15:57.00 | CIA-41 | Tabard |
| 15:57.00 | CIA-41 | - initial commit |
| 15:57.55 | ravagernl | ~seen antiarc |
| 15:57.58 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (3d 3h 26m 30s) #wowace (3d 3h 26m 30s) #curseforge (3d 3h 26m 30s). Has said a total of 47 messages. Is idling for 21h 48m 49s, last said: 'No docs at all :P'. |
| 15:58.20 | Aerr | ravagernl everything seems the same. |
| 15:58.45 | ravagernl | aerr: I really am not sure why the texture isn working :S |
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| 15:58.54 | Aerr | either am i |
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| 16:00.04 | cncfanatics | anybody with a bloody clue on how to use LibDropdown ? |
| 16:00.06 | cncfanatics | I'm puzzled |
| 16:00.13 | balstor | DARKGuy yhea SP3 is out just run windows update, installed no issues |
| 16:00.22 | DARKGuy | balstor: sweet!! |
| 16:00.32 | DARKGuy | I'm gonna wait a little before upgrading work comps tho |
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| 16:01.19 | cncfanatics | balstor: hello ! |
| 16:01.22 | cncfanatics | I haz something to ask you :p |
| 16:01.33 | balstor | sec |
| 16:02.20 | Balstor | ahhh so whats up cnc? |
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| 16:07.40 | Vig | what is the form user and pw login, same as SVN? |
| 16:08.12 | Vig | ah nevermind found register |
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| 16:11.47 | Aerr | ravagernl, took a few wow restarts, now working |
| 16:11.57 | ravagernl | :D |
| 16:12.15 | DARKGuy | wtf |
| 16:12.20 | DARKGuy | how did you solve it o_o |
| 16:13.19 | cncfanatics | can anyone slap Antiarc for me ? |
| 16:13.26 | DARKGuy | saps Antiarc |
| 16:13.43 | Aerr | no clue. restarted wow, didnt work, restarted again, didnt work. 3rd time was a charm |
| 16:13.56 | DARKGuy | crazy |
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| 16:14.19 | cncfanatics | ANYONE have a clue how to use Antiarc's libdropdown ? |
| 16:16.01 | Aerr | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 16:16.07 | Zyndrome | ¯\(o_°)/¯ |
| 16:16.32 | DARKGuy | (^-^) |
| 16:16.40 | DARKGuy | <(^_^<) |
| 16:16.41 | cncfanatics | ... |
| 16:16.48 | DARKGuy | (>^_^)> |
| 16:16.52 | cncfanatics | ~fail Aerr, Zyndrome and DARKGuy |
| 16:16.53 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Aerr, Zyndrome and DARKGuy. I hate you because you fail. |
| 16:16.57 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 16:17.15 | DARKGuy | v(T_T)v |
| 16:17.23 | Aerr | 0.o |
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| 16:18.03 | Zyndrome | Antiarc , the Background Color for Frame 1 in Chatter is fubar (with Border/Background module enabled).. it overlays the chat instead of being behind it |
| 16:18.23 | Antiarc | I'm back |
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| 16:18.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 16:18.39 | DARKGuy | Antiarc: wb! ^^ |
| 16:18.41 | Antiarc | Zyndrome: Yeah, known, I decided to not mess with the chatframe colors, just set it to transparent if you wish |
| 16:18.43 | Psycho|Work | Clearly you have missed a lot of important dance-related discussion, Antiarc. |
| 16:18.53 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 16:19.00 | Antiarc | cncfanatics: libdropdown is very unfinished, it's not ready for production deployment - I figured you were going to be fleshign it out :) |
| 16:19.20 | Antiarc | Threat-1.0 is available in tags, but most of the modules in it don't need to be rewritten for -2.0 because the GUID handling implicitly handles htem |
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| 16:22.15 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: I can't even figure on how to create a dropdown with the lib |
| 16:22.45 | kalahassi | anti, yes but kelthuzad or onyxia for example can need an update ;) |
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| 16:23.23 | Antiarc | There weren't 1.0 modules for Kelthazud or Onyxia :) |
| 16:23.45 | Psycho|Work | I seem to remember that this channel's logs are saved somewhere. Can someone link me, please? |
| 16:24.03 | Antiarc | cncfanatics: check out lib:OpenAce3Menu - that's the basics of building a menu. |
| 16:24.16 | Antiarc | LibDropdown is intended to be a backend with glue pieces for various option menu types |
| 16:24.25 | kalahassi | im testing my voidreaver-onyxia-module this weekend hopefully |
| 16:24.26 | Antiarc | Ace3 being the one I wrote against, but you could write an opener for any type |
| 16:24.59 | Antiarc | The end result being that you just call LibStub("LibDropdown-1.0"):OpenAce3Menu(ace3ConfigOptionsTable) |
| 16:25.01 | cncfanatics | the cool thing is that the API you use there ain't exposed |
| 16:25.25 | Antiarc | It's not supposed to be. The glue pieces are supposed to be in the lib itself |
| 16:25.40 | cncfanatics | mmmm, sounds like a bother for people that want to use the API directly |
| 16:25.43 | cncfanatics | (which I do) |
| 16:26.13 | Antiarc | Well, there's not a whole lot of sense in getting to the lib internals and putting your own menu construction code in your own stuff |
| 16:26.19 | Antiarc | At that point you may as well just write your own menu builder |
| 16:28.10 | aestil | Antiarc: /wave |
| 16:28.16 | Antiarc | Mornin' |
| 16:28.27 | Antiarc | I went out home shopping this morning |
| 16:28.33 | Antiarc | Prices are better, but still expensive :( |
| 16:28.36 | aestil | for baby products |
| 16:28.46 | Antiarc | house |
| 16:28.49 | aestil | why are prices better this morning? |
| 16:28.50 | Antiarc | as in not-apartment |
| 16:28.52 | aestil | oh oh. |
| 16:28.54 | aestil | yeah. |
| 16:29.06 | aestil | i expect that the market will be 'down' until next summer. |
| 16:29.17 | aestil | and that things will start to turn around by then. |
| 16:29.24 | Antiarc | It needs to go down until I buy |
| 16:29.26 | Antiarc | Then go way up. |
| 16:29.31 | Antiarc | Then down again right after I sell |
| 16:29.34 | aestil | i'll let them know that. |
| 16:29.35 | Antiarc | Just sayin' |
| 16:29.37 | Antiarc | k, thanks |
| 16:29.43 | Antiarc | If you could arrange that I'd appreciate it. |
| 16:29.47 | aestil | yes. |
| 16:29.51 | aestil | i have those connections. |
| 16:30.05 | Antiarc | Tell Greenspan I say "sup homes" |
| 16:30.21 | Aerr | ravagernl, got this working it seems. but im going to need to figure out this eepanel script, its growing from the middle out. would much rather it grow down |
| 16:30.41 | aestil | is the facebook app in? |
| 16:31.06 | Antiarc | I'm doing an emergency replace of the search backend |
| 16:31.14 | Antiarc | It keeps puking up and making everything fall over |
| 16:31.30 | Antiarc | But after that, assuming no major QA issues, yeah, I'll be flipping the switch today. |
| 16:31.47 | aestil | i don't even know how to find it. |
| 16:32.04 | Antiarc | Because it's hidden ;) |
| 16:32.07 | aestil | will you email spam? |
| 16:32.29 | Antiarc | Nah, not for a couple more weeks, but it'll be prominent on the site, and you'll start seeing feed items pop up from it on FB |
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| 16:33.51 | aestil | want to do heroic MgT? |
| 16:34.04 | Antiarc | I'd like to, but I'd better not. I have a lot to get done today :) |
| 16:37.02 | Antiarc | sweeeet, this works |
| 16:37.12 | CIA-41 | 03Avitus * r73218 10SimpleDrumAnnounce/locales/deDE.lua: |
| 16:37.12 | CIA-41 | SimpleDrumAnnounce: |
| 16:37.12 | CIA-41 | -Fixed German localization. |
| 16:37.53 | aestil | does anyone know of an autobar type mod that isn't autobar? |
| 16:38.07 | aestil | i thought the guy who wrote numen wrote a new mod that was like autobar. |
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| 16:45.23 | Aerr | Ravagernl, the eepanel isnt auto resizing to long enough. the EBB's extend past the resized panel |
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| 16:45.52 | chiper | hmm, i'm suddenly feeling an itch to run BRS |
| 16:46.01 | chiper | been a long time since I went |
| 16:46.34 | Psycho|Work | That disorder can be treated with therapy and counseling, chiper. |
| 16:46.39 | chiper | heh |
| 16:47.00 | chiper | I never did get my UBRS key finished way back when, would be fun to go farm it |
| 16:47.11 | Psycho|Work | Yeah, I've thought about doing that as well. |
| 16:47.30 | Psycho|Work | BRS was one of the better pre-BC instances, I guess. |
| 16:47.47 | chiper | I think so too, I'm still disgruntled that BC didnt have anything like it |
| 16:48.56 | Apoco | are there any plans to fix AceConfig3 so that select's don't take up your entire screen and actually have a scrollbar? |
| 16:48.58 | sacarasc | i got my UBRS key a few weeks ago! |
| 16:49.28 | sacarasc | had problems with the quest to get it... kept killing the dragon i was supposed to mind control |
| 16:49.42 | chiper | I was just thinking about it because someone on mmo-champion pointed out the sheer size of BRD, and I chimed in that BRD used to be a ten man like BRS |
| 16:50.07 | chiper | ten man raid with five man content |
| 16:50.21 | chiper | it's something I'd love to see blzzard do again |
| 16:52.01 | CIA-41 | 03antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r73219 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: |
| 16:52.01 | CIA-41 | LibBars-1.0: Add :SetColorAt and :UnsetColorAt for individual bars. Individual |
| 16:52.01 | CIA-41 | bar colors take precedence over group settings. Also added :UnsetAllColors(), |
| 16:52.01 | CIA-41 | which just clears the existing color mappings, but won't have any effect until |
| 16:52.01 | CIA-41 | you set a new color mapping. |
| 16:52.06 | mitchnull | is BRS soloable at 70? |
| 16:52.18 | mitchnull | with uber gear |
| 16:52.25 | Psycho|Work | By a few classes. You don't really need awesome gear. |
| 16:52.28 | Antiarc | Likely. |
| 16:52.30 | chiper | mitch: by some classes, yes |
| 16:52.35 | mitchnull | mage? :) |
| 16:52.41 | mitchnull | I only have a mage at 70 |
| 16:52.42 | Psycho|Work | Probably not. |
| 16:52.44 | chiper | mage would probably want a pally with them |
| 16:53.00 | mitchnull | hohum |
| 16:53.09 | sacarasc | ubrs isn't... yiou need 3 people to open a door |
| 16:53.21 | kalahassi | a gm gave me my ubrs key yesterday, the quest is a bit bugged. like the blueleaf tuber quest in razorfen |
| 16:53.29 | mitchnull | btw, if I cancel my account will I be able to play the time already payed for? |
| 16:53.31 | sacarasc | (tried to 2 man it and got stuck) |
| 16:53.53 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73220 10CoolDownButtons/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 16:53.53 | CIA-41 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 16:53.53 | CIA-41 | - ButtonBar config completed |
| 16:53.53 | CIA-41 | - added pulse effect |
| 16:53.57 | kalahassi | you need at least 3 people to summon the boss,that opens the gate. after it you can solo it |
| 16:54.06 | chiper | sacarasc: pity, but not surpising. BRD and Ulda have the same issues |
| 16:54.41 | Aerr | DARKguy, got it done |
| 16:54.52 | DARKGuy | Aerr: sweet! :D |
| 16:54.58 | chiper | I have some time today, perhaps I'll try and get a group together. |
| 16:55.20 | Aerr | Darkguy, i even fine tuned the eepanel to resize with buffs |
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| 16:55.37 | DARKGuy | Aerr: awesome! ^_^ |
| 16:55.41 | DARKGuy | Aerr: can I see :3 ? |
| 16:55.47 | Tinyboom | Antiarc: bah... libbars still not released? ;) saw the commit and "assumed" it was on WAU:p |
| 16:55.58 | Antiarc | No, but why would you want it on WAU? |
| 16:56.10 | Antiarc | It's a library, not an end-user addon :P |
| 16:56.12 | Tinyboom | cause cryo2 uses it:p |
| 16:56.42 | Antiarc | you can grab it from branches easily enough, but yeah, it's not quite finished baking |
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| 16:56.58 | [SW]Dodge | ~seen tuller |
| 16:57.00 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 18h 38m 34s ago, saying: 'yeah, I don't disable those due to tainting reasons'. |
| 16:57.01 | Tinyboom | so atm I am stuck updating cryo2 manually to get it with externals, otherwise it bugs up |
| 16:57.32 | Aerr | Darkguy, http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08195/wowscrnshot_050908_125610870.jpg |
| 16:57.36 | Antiarc | Heh, yeah, the cryo author should probably embed libbars directly rather than setting it as an SVN External until it's moved to trunk |
| 16:57.44 | Tinyboom | mhm |
| 16:58.08 | Tinyboom | not that big a hazzle anyways:) |
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| 16:58.17 | DARKGuy | Aerr: that looks WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better now :D :D |
| 16:58.19 | Aerr | going to fine tine the image to lay on top of totemus in the long run |
| 16:58.28 | kergoth | nothing wrong with it being an external, it just shouldnt be in embeds.xml, since its not easily unembedded |
| 16:58.52 | Antiarc | Well |
| 16:59.00 | Antiarc | The files script doesn't package up brances |
| 16:59.02 | Antiarc | branches* |
| 16:59.27 | Tinyboom | would it work if I installed libbars from branches, or would I have to edit some files in cryo2? |
| 16:59.32 | Antiarc | And since it omits externals for the no-ext builds, that means that the lib isn't available to the disembedded end user |
| 16:59.38 | Antiarc | Nah, just install it from branches |
| 16:59.54 | Tinyboom | kk, will try that |
| 16:59.55 | Antiarc | you can omit the TestAddon directory |
| 17:00.00 | DARKGuy | Aerr: congrats ^_^ |
| 17:00.02 | Antiarc | Or just export it from SVN or whatever |
| 17:00.52 | Aerr | Darkguy, i think it turned out well. I think im going to do a very transparent cutout, so theres some overlay to darken the part of totemus in the logo |
| 17:01.27 | Aerr | so it lays over totemus, but also darkens the buttons in the center i bit |
| 17:01.30 | NeoTron | Antiarc: so ... although you can never say for sure it would seem like druid threat is off for us. We did Illidan with a warrior tank and it seemed to be properly reported although I am not sure (didn't pull aggro prematurely but also didn't go above the tank). |
| 17:01.33 | DARKGuy | Aerr: yeah, you could try to "blend" the logo above totemus, so it looks like it's more likely a part of the whole logo |
| 17:01.49 | Aerr | exactilly |
| 17:01.58 | Antiarc | From what's been reported I think it's an issue with transactioned threat abilities always committing even when they should be rolled back |
| 17:02.23 | Aerr | Darkguy, gotta love giant bear screenshots |
| 17:02.23 | Antiarc | Which I need to check into, but I have absolutely zero free time to do so right now, but will be getting to it ASAP |
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| 17:02.53 | DARKGuy | Aerr: truly, that mount is a beastie <3 |
| 17:03.03 | Burgermeal | that totem addon, is it derived from necrosis? |
| 17:03.10 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 17:03.11 | Aerr | cycircled |
| 17:03.16 | Aerr | so persay, yes |
| 17:03.22 | NeoTron | what is transactioned threat abilities? |
| 17:03.40 | DARKGuy | I must go eat now, AFK ^^. |
| 17:03.56 | Antiarc | things like Sunder. Anything that doesn't report a combat log entry when it lands, only when it doesn't land |
| 17:04.05 | NivFreak | wow |
| 17:04.14 | NivFreak | so they are basically killing off 25man raids in the expansion? |
| 17:04.20 | Burgermeal | no |
| 17:04.25 | NivFreak | All 25 man raids in Wrath will also be available to complete with 10 players. This is so that more players will get to see end game content (Even the Arthas encounter will be available as a 10 man raid). |
| 17:04.35 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 17:04.42 | NivFreak | different loot |
| 17:04.43 | NivFreak | but meh |
| 17:04.46 | Antiarc | The loot tables for the 25-mans are a step above |
| 17:04.50 | NeoTron | NivFreak: that is interesting |
| 17:04.57 | Antiarc | But man, that's going to be REALLY interesting to see how they pull that off |
| 17:05.01 | NeoTron | NivFreak: maybe then you can make a 15 ppl guild and raid without morons! |
| 17:05.03 | NivFreak | that will kill 75% of my 25 man raid |
| 17:05.04 | ravagernl | aerr: needs an outer glow imo :P |
| 17:05.06 | Burgermeal | the high end guild wont bother with the 10-mans, other than for gearing alts |
| 17:05.06 | NivFreak | since they raid for content |
| 17:05.07 | NivFreak | not loot |
| 17:05.09 | ravagernl | a black outer glow |
| 17:05.11 | Burgermeal | guilds* |
| 17:05.29 | Aerr | ravagernl, im going to make it look like its molded in |
| 17:05.29 | Chompers | more 10 mans is great |
| 17:05.30 | NeoTron | basically you get heroic (25 man) and normal (10 man) raids |
| 17:05.42 | Chompers | it's just easier to find 10 people to raid with |
| 17:05.45 | Chompers | rather than 25 |
| 17:05.56 | cncfanatics | easyer to find 10 brains then 25 brains idd |
| 17:05.59 | NivFreak | I like them as distinct things |
| 17:06.16 | Burgermeal | the high end raiders were never after the gaming experience etc... it's all about the gear and epeen |
| 17:06.22 | cncfanatics | not true |
| 17:06.28 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if itd be worth adding justification and position options to the label and timer text for libbars, or maybe just anchor the timer text to the whole bar when the label text is hidden, and vice versa, and let the user mess with the fontstrings themselves for the justification |
| 17:06.33 | Cartas | Why do you say that, Burgermeal? |
| 17:06.36 | cncfanatics | I was a high end raider, gear is just a need to see the content |
| 17:06.58 | Chompers | define high end raider |
| 17:07.19 | Aerr | Gear is deffinetly something that makes high end raiding worth it after you've done it |
| 17:07.23 | NivFreak | lvl 55 for death knights eh |
| 17:07.28 | Aerr | its a perk of seeing the content |
| 17:07.43 | cncfanatics | its a perk, nothing more |
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| 17:07.57 | kergoth | wonders if he should use :SetColorAt for ticktock, or let the user set the color with no color changes at all |
| 17:08.07 | Aerr | and it proves that you've done it also |
| 17:08.30 | Cartas | Why do you need to prove it? |
| 17:08.36 | Cartas | I don't like that reason. |
| 17:08.36 | Aerr | and makes later content more managable. |
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| 17:08.48 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73221 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist |
| 17:08.52 | cncfanatics | proving = epeen |
| 17:09.01 | cncfanatics | but well, everyone has some of that |
| 17:09.02 | Aerr | Well, you know you did it, you had fun, and its something to remembe rit by, like a trophy, persay |
| 17:09.09 | Aerr | and yes |
| 17:09.23 | NeoTron | omg coool |
| 17:09.25 | NeoTron | "Raise Dead -- Raises a nearby corpse to fight for the Death Knight for 2 minutes. If used on a player corpse, the player has the option to play as the ghoul for the duration -- gaining access to the ghoul's abilities." |
| 17:09.27 | Dashkal | Seems we now know why the CMs have been so quiet lately... |
| 17:09.53 | Dashkal | I want to deathgrip cliff people :p |
| 17:10.04 | cncfanatics | it pulls them to you |
| 17:10.07 | cncfanatics | doesn't push them |
| 17:10.10 | Dashkal | slow fall cloak |
| 17:10.19 | Dashkal | :D |
| 17:10.23 | Aerr | Dashkal, prevent rofftoppers |
| 17:10.25 | Aerr | xD |
| 17:10.30 | cncfanatics | what if you raise an enemy player ? |
| 17:10.36 | cncfanatics | will HE control the ghoul ? :p |
| 17:10.38 | Aerr | I'd feel like scorpion from MK |
| 17:10.43 | Dashkal | not an enemy, so I think you get it regardless |
| 17:10.47 | Dashkal | erm, not an ally |
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| 17:11.01 | Aerr | I'd assume its like controlling treants |
| 17:11.08 | Dashkal | *blinks* wow, hadn't thought of that. A _real_ solution to rooftoppers |
| 17:11.22 | Cartas | It's not really a real solution |
| 17:11.28 | Cartas | Using it on a player will make guards kill you, no doubt. |
| 17:11.39 | NeoTron | DK sounds cool |
| 17:11.41 | Dashkal | I'm thinking of darkshire |
| 17:11.48 | Dashkal | Not neutral towns |
| 17:11.50 | NeoTron | I hope other classes gets cool 71-80 spells |
| 17:12.00 | Dashkal | The horde basically live on those buildings |
| 17:12.30 | Cartas | Not on my server :o |
| 17:12.35 | Aerr | Dashkal, darkshire roofs are bannable |
| 17:12.43 | Aerr | just report it and move on |
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| 17:12.59 | Dashkal | *shakes* they never actually do so |
| 17:13.06 | Dashkal | I've seen the same asshole three nights in a row |
| 17:14.29 | Dashkal | That said, with player knockpack/pull abilities in game, it may cease to be bannable since ther'll be proper PvP resolution |
| 17:14.31 | Aerr | report it, the GM will see hes been warned. |
| 17:14.48 | NeoTron | "mammoth wrangling"! |
| 17:14.48 | NeoTron | lol |
| 17:14.50 | Dashkal | Which is fine by me, I'd rather seem them gone than wait for an hour+ for some GM to get to it |
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| 17:16.07 | Aerr | but dont abandon the ticket |
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| 17:16.25 | Dashkal | Raiders are going to be up in arms over the dual 10/25 man bit... |
| 17:16.27 | Aerr | just keep it, and be on your merry way, gm will get back to you soon enough, and then hes screwed |
| 17:16.32 | Aerr | eh |
| 17:16.37 | [dRaCo] | anyone with a decent idea on how to make autobar use char profiles? |
| 17:16.39 | Dashkal | I like it just fine. I'll take a tier lower to be able to see arthas without trying to find 24 non-idiots |
| 17:16.46 | Aerr | the 25 man= superior loot and differing fights |
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| 17:17.04 | NeoTron | the interesting thing is what Dashkal said |
| 17:17.15 | Dashkal | ? |
| 17:17.22 | NeoTron | now you can work on tier 8 content and then take your 9 best friend and do arthras at tier8 level |
| 17:17.26 | NeoTron | before you get to tier9 |
| 17:17.48 | NeoTron | i.e it's easier to progress in content with small set of good players and you can do it in parallell |
| 17:17.56 | NeoTron | use the 25-man loot to help you conquer the 10-mans |
| 17:18.02 | Dashkal | nods |
| 17:18.22 | NeoTron | plus it's bound to be easier for a 25-man raid to progress in the 10-man |
| 17:18.32 | NeoTron | since it's similar encounters (different due to necessity but still) |
| 17:18.40 | Dashkal | One problem I just got to see in gory detail with the 10/25 transition is if you aren't careful it lends itself to cliqueism. We just ended up with an us/them situation and "they" just up and left |
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| 17:19.26 | Dashkal | has plans to avoid that in future |
| 17:19.29 | Burgermeal | so I made this addon and can see it at files.wowace.com, but not in the wowace updater.. what's up with that? |
| 17:19.47 | NeoTron | nice. northrend is larger than outlands |
| 17:20.30 | Kazie | Is it possible to make a macro that casts diffrents spells depending on the target? .. whether or not it's friendly of roe |
| 17:20.31 | Cartas | Ooh, that's nice to know! |
| 17:20.31 | Kazie | foe* |
| 17:20.42 | Psycho|Work | Kazie: Yes. |
| 17:21.05 | Dashkal | "Dragonblight will also let you reunite (violently) with the Scarlet Crusade." *cheers* Yay more slaughtering of the scarlet crusade :p |
| 17:21.10 | ravagernl | kazie: /cast [help] Flash Heal; Shadow Word: Pain |
| 17:21.24 | ravagernl | the opposite is [harm] |
| 17:21.36 | Cartas | Hm |
| 17:21.40 | Kazie | hmm.. is it really that simple? |
| 17:21.47 | Cartas | I hope they love you if you have the Corrupted Ashbringer, Dashkal! :O |
| 17:22.02 | Dashkal | lol. I'm a druid so I'll never know, sadly |
| 17:22.14 | Cartas | I'll have to try it out ASAP! |
| 17:22.16 | Dashkal | I _really_ hope that the corrupted ashbringer stays in naxx |
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| 17:23.13 | Dashkal | I was actually half-expecting the scarlet onslaught to turn into the scriers to the silver hand's aldor |
| 17:23.25 | ravagernl | kazie: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900 |
| 17:23.30 | Cartas | I hope it can be cleansed. |
| 17:23.34 | Cartas | I saved DKP for months to get mine :@ |
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| 17:24.03 | GitHub38 | quecho: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-ac2c453 |
| 17:24.05 | GitHub38 | De-dongle |
| 17:24.05 | Aeyan | You were right, SP3 was fairly painless. |
| 17:24.06 | Dashkal | Ashbringer will almost certainly be an orange waiting to happen, but I don't think you'll be able to use the old one. (The old one will be absolutely pricessless when naxx moves though, so still very cool) |
| 17:24.07 | GitHub38 | http://github.com/tekkub/quecho/commit/ac2c4534b1dfdbc36731af0632e5bfd63a21c099 |
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| 17:24.22 | Cartas | Hm, priceless? |
| 17:24.23 | Cartas | How'd you mean? |
| 17:24.26 | Dashkal | Ok, that bot needs a commit message |
| 17:24.41 | Dashkal | Old naxx will dissappear, and that's probably the most valuable item in it (lore, not stats) |
| 17:25.01 | Dashkal | Ateish notwithstanding |
| 17:25.15 | Cartas | Aw :( |
| 17:25.37 | Kazie | ravagernl: Is it possible to make it work with the Automatic Self-cast function wow has? |
| 17:25.40 | Cartas | I hope they add a new one in then, and I'll save for that again! |
| 17:25.42 | Dashkal | But hell, I've been wrong with almost every prediction I've bad for wotlk, so take me with a grain of salt :p |
| 17:25.48 | Cartas | Then I'll have two Corrupted Ashbringers! |
| 17:25.51 | Cartas | That'd be epic. |
| 17:26.02 | ravagernl | kazie: yep, what do you want your amcro to do? |
| 17:26.03 | Dashkal | Dual wielding ashbringer... that would be amazing |
| 17:26.07 | cncfanatics | old naxx will not disappear |
| 17:26.08 | Dashkal | or is it 2h :p |
| 17:26.10 | ravagernl | s/amcro/macro |
| 17:26.12 | cncfanatics | been confirmed already |
| 17:26.13 | Cartas | 2hander, unfortunately. |
| 17:26.16 | NivFreak | cncfanatics: I think they said it would? |
| 17:26.19 | Dashkal | Bornakk stated outright that it will vanish, where's your info, cnc? |
| 17:26.26 | cncfanatics | huh ? |
| 17:26.31 | Dashkal | lemme find the post |
| 17:26.39 | Pucmel | it will be moved |
| 17:26.42 | cncfanatics | they stated very long ago that legacy instances would always be accessible |
| 17:26.50 | Pucmel | not this one tho |
| 17:26.51 | Burgermeal | how do I create a wiki page for my addon? |
| 17:27.05 | Funkeh` | sp3 is ok? ;p |
| 17:27.09 | Kazie | I have renew and swp... mainly i would like it to cast swp on enemies and if target=friendly or no target cast renew.. then i later i guess i'd check if it's possible to make it work with the Self-cast function if SWP is already on the target |
| 17:27.10 | Dashkal | My source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784277465&postId=59573398960&sid=1#47 |
| 17:27.13 | Cartas | They changed their mind, cncfanatics! |
| 17:27.16 | Dashkal | Context on wowblues: http://www.wowblues.com/us/attunement-for-naxx-in-wotlk-5784277465.html |
| 17:27.31 | Dashkal | Naxx is a special case, they aren't following the rules with it |
| 17:27.40 | Dashkal | Simply because it makes too much sense to have it in this expansion |
| 17:28.14 | Dashkal | wtb Diablo 2 barbarian class: dual wielding 2hs :p |
| 17:29.16 | Aeyan | Funkeh` seems to leave enough stuff alone to be called that, yeah. |
| 17:29.25 | Aeyan | Err, : |
| 17:30.03 | Aeyan | They actually updated the uxtheme.dll, hehe |
| 17:30.30 | Aeyan | Other than that though, I didn't have to disable any new or old services again |
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| 17:32.10 | NeoTron | old naxx has to disappear since it's moving, just like Dalaranan is moving |
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| 17:34.25 | Dashkal | Naxx's moving is a retcon rather than a progression (this way they can keep the bosses and such). Only Kel'Thuzzad survived the vanilla wow ransacking |
| 17:35.11 | Burgermeal | what, exactly, is http://svn.wowace.com/wowace used for? |
| 17:36.02 | haste | read-only checkouts |
| 17:36.25 | Cartas | Leifur is the master of all things WoWAce. |
| 17:36.43 | Cartas | cuddles up against Haste. |
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| 17:38.02 | Burgermeal | I commited my addon SummonBot this morning, and I can see it on files.wowace.com, but not in the wowace updater >.< |
| 17:38.10 | Burgermeal | amidoinitwrong? |
| 17:38.18 | Poul|Raider | anyone tried that wowstuff for visual studio ? |
| 17:38.50 | DARKGuy | lalala back ^^ |
| 17:38.52 | DARKGuy | no, I want to |
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| 17:43.40 | lprich | Quiet in here today too. What's up with WoW channels being dead lately? |
| 17:44.08 | lprich | blames it on Fisker- and Ozguli |
| 17:44.19 | Kazie | It's hot these days... blue sky, high sun.. at least in denmark it is |
| 17:44.21 | CIA-41 | 03stormfx * r73222 10ButtonFacade_Caith/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:44.21 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade_Caith: |
| 17:44.22 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.22 | Ozguli | ME?! |
| 17:44.44 | Dashkal | Air to air combat! |
| 17:44.45 | vithos | Burgermeal: it's in my WAU list |
| 17:44.49 | Kazie | ButtonFacade? .. is that like a successor for CyCircled or something? |
| 17:44.53 | vithos | Kazie: yes |
| 17:44.57 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 17:45.13 | Kazie | I guess i better relog then :) |
| 17:45.18 | Kazie | Caith is new aye? |
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| 17:47.04 | NeoTron | so here's the question - when they say argent dawn faction returns.. is it the same faction? :P |
| 17:47.07 | NeoTron | doubts it. |
| 17:47.29 | Kazie | hmm.. successor :S.. but CyCircled is still being updated? :s |
| 17:47.41 | grzesieq | they'll rename it to Argent Dawn Offensive ;-) |
| 17:47.59 | Dashkal | I thought that the silver hand was going to be the successor to the argent dawn (Cen Circle/Cen Expedition) |
| 17:48.03 | NeoTron | I can't wait to have a passanger on my flying mount come woltk |
| 17:48.04 | Kazie | haha.. grzesieq, good one ;) |
| 17:48.11 | lprich | Ozguli: Can you think of someone better for me to blame it on? |
| 17:48.33 | Ozguli | some of my long haired friends? |
| 17:48.44 | lprich | ... |
| 17:48.48 | lprich | I'm a long hair! |
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| 17:49.12 | Kazie | Then you're very small |
| 17:50.20 | Kazie | Question.. that ButtonFacade.. does that work on all the things CyCircled worked? .. like BT3? |
| 17:50.36 | Dashkal | BT4 will use ButtonFacade |
| 17:50.45 | RaydenU | anyone here messed with ark inventory rules? |
| 17:50.46 | Kazie | BT4 is out? |
| 17:50.50 | Kazie | omg.. where have i been |
| 17:50.55 | Dashkal | I think it's still beta |
| 17:50.58 | Dashkal | not quite feature complete |
| 17:51.00 | RaydenU | BT4? |
| 17:51.02 | Dashkal | check its forum thread |
| 17:51.09 | RaydenU | what is it? |
| 17:51.17 | Dashkal | Successor to BT3? :p |
| 17:51.22 | RaydenU | what is BT? |
| 17:51.24 | RaydenU | how about that |
| 17:51.25 | Dashkal | Bartender |
| 17:51.28 | Dashkal | Action bars |
| 17:51.32 | RaydenU | oh right |
| 17:51.32 | RaydenU | cool |
| 17:52.02 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73223 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:52.02 | CIA-41 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 17:52.02 | CIA-41 | - added Module for Saved Cooldowns (not working yet) |
| 17:52.02 | CIA-41 | - fixed Anchor display position if "Center from Anchor" is enabled |
| 17:52.04 | Dashkal | Pretty nice one. Comparable feature set to Bongos |
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| 17:53.04 | CIA-41 | 03ackis * r73224 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc: |
| 17:53.04 | CIA-41 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:53.04 | CIA-41 | - Add zhTW to ToC localization list |
| 17:53.07 | Kazie | I hope BT4 uses the same buttonIDs as BT3 :s |
| 17:53.25 | RaydenU | does arkinventory know about closet gnome? |
| 17:54.08 | RaydenU | i want my kitty set and my resto set in different sections |
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| 17:55.36 | Toadkiller | Kazie: In the case of AutoBar, cyCircled specifically no longer works, and only ButtonFacade does. CyCircled's way of doing business is ugly, error prone, and highly inneficient. |
| 17:56.14 | Burgermeal | i never liked cycircled anyway :o |
| 17:56.19 | Burgermeal | its wank |
| 17:56.48 | Toadkiller | The code is, the skins were fine. The skins in ButtonFacade should end up being superior once it is finished |
| 17:57.08 | SunTsu | I hope nevcairiel either adds ButtonFacade-support to bt3 or adds a bag bar and fade to bt4 soon ;) |
| 17:57.24 | nevcairiel | never! |
| 17:57.37 | CIA-41 | 03stormfx * r73225 10ButtonFacade_Apathy/Skins.lua: |
| 17:57.37 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade_Apathy: |
| 17:57.37 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.38 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Which of them or all of them? ;) |
| 17:57.48 | nevcairiel | all! :) |
| 17:58.18 | SunTsu | Dang :) |
| 17:58.30 | nevcairiel | but most definately the first |
| 17:58.48 | stew_a | i'm looking for a decent lua->php saved variable parsing lib/class/function, does anyone know a good one? the one i have atm can't parse this particular file |
| 17:58.57 | nevcairiel | But i have university stuff to code, no addon coding until thats done |
| 17:58.58 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: thought so. A bag bar is definitely needed by bt4 |
| 17:58.59 | Kazie | Toadkiller: Nice |
| 17:59.16 | Kazie | hmm.. am i right if i say there is no FadeOut feature in BT4? :( |
| 17:59.16 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Then have fun with it ;) |
| 17:59.36 | SunTsu | Kazie: Yeah, see my bitching before ;) |
| 17:59.39 | Toadkiller | If bag bars are so crucial I can add them to AutoBar quickly... |
| 17:59.39 | RaydenU | sweet |
| 17:59.44 | RaydenU | arkinventory does know about closetgnome |
| 17:59.54 | Kazie | SunTsu: Then it's completely useless to me :( ! |
| 18:00.08 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: It's not that I want to open the bags, I want to switch them |
| 18:00.19 | Toadkiller | Ah |
| 18:00.28 | Toadkiller | like between you and your bank? |
| 18:00.35 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: Right |
| 18:00.41 | DARKGuy | So buttonfacade is way better than cycircled? |
| 18:00.48 | Toadkiller | Yeah ill leave that to a bag mod |
| 18:00.49 | SunTsu | Mining bag, engineer bag, skinning bag and such |
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| 18:01.17 | Balstor | hahahah |
| 18:01.33 | Toadkiller | DARKGuy: Lets just say that cyCircled is not even wrong. ButtonFacade is the greatest thing since quantum cats. |
| 18:01.50 | Balstor | mh_min,mh_max,_,_,_,_,_ = UnitDamage("player"); mh)maax is off by 1 so you have to say mh_max+=1; |
| 18:01.51 | DARKGuy | Toadkiller: does it have the Cycircled's VolM skin ? |
| 18:01.56 | DARKGuy | Toadkiller: and does it work with BT3 ?:P |
| 18:02.49 | Stanzilla | there's no need for a "M" (matte) version |
| 18:02.56 | Stanzilla | you can turn on/off the gloss on every skin |
| 18:02.59 | Kazie | Anyone who knows when we'll be able to hover bars in BT4 like we did with FadeOut in BT3? :) |
| 18:03.01 | DARKGuy | Cool |
| 18:03.10 | Toadkiller | No it works with Bartender4. Dunno if someone hacked a BT3 mod to force it in yet. Check SVN and curse etc for skins. There are a bunch of Vol done already, 8 or so |
| 18:03.18 | DARKGuy | Ah.. |
| 18:03.35 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: Just read what nevcairiel just said |
| 18:03.53 | DARKGuy | Hm, I'll stay with cycircled until BT4 is out and working correctly, then I'll move to ButtonFacade :P |
| 18:03.57 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: And, I am repeating myself: See my bitching before ;) |
| 18:04.06 | DARKGuy | scrolls up |
| 18:04.23 | Toadkiller | SunTsu: U need to finally get a bag mod imo |
| 18:04.28 | Dashkal | oh sweet, incomming to bt3 |
| 18:04.46 | Dashkal | Mind you, I just use dreamlayout, so I don't much care which presentation mod it uses :p |
| 18:04.50 | DARKGuy | :( SUCKS :( |
| 18:04.52 | SunTsu | Dashkal: "19:57:24 <@nevcairiel> never!" ;) |
| 18:05.05 | DARKGuy | kicks the IRC wall |
| 18:05.09 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: I have a bag mod, but I need a bag bar |
| 18:05.11 | Dashkal | ahh, I flipped the negative |
| 18:05.25 | Dashkal | oh well, again, doesn't matter which presentation mod is used from the perspective of a user |
| 18:05.31 | Toadkiller | SunTsu: Make your lazy bag author write one... |
| 18:05.36 | Dashkal | Just support dreamlayout :p |
| 18:05.39 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: How else can I switch one bag for another? ;) |
| 18:06.06 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: I was just trying to ;) Anyway, I got a bag bar, I'm still using bt3 because of that |
| 18:06.13 | Toadkiller | Surely u can do this in the bag and bank interface? |
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| 18:06.47 | Toadkiller | <-- Uses bagnon |
| 18:07.17 | Dashkal | I use ArkInventory -- Comes with a bag changer. But probably overkill if you don't want/need the advanced sorting rules |
| 18:07.39 | chead | <-- Uses bagnon |
| 18:07.52 | Kazie | <-- uses default bags.. a lot easier :) it got eveyrthing a bag addon could ever need ^^ |
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| 18:08.15 | DARKGuy | uses BT3 and no bag bar. Who needs bag bars anyways? F12 and OneBag ftw. |
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| 18:08.32 | DARKGuy | s/F12/b/m |
| 18:08.40 | DARKGuy | or whatever it was. |
| 18:09.00 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: How do you swap a specific bag from the bank against a specific bar in inventory? |
| 18:09.09 | SunTsu | s/bar/bag/ |
| 18:09.22 | Dashkal | Bag changing is amazingly handy when you have things like profession bags. You don't necessarally want those on you unless you're farming |
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| 18:09.37 | DARKGuy | SunTsu: I just drag 'em :P |
| 18:09.43 | Kazie | purl: wtf? :) |
| 18:09.47 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: To where? |
| 18:10.00 | DARKGuy | OneBag has a small button at the top-left of the window that allows me to see a small bag bar |
| 18:10.03 | DARKGuy | its just hidden in there |
| 18:10.30 | Dashkal | That's all you need |
| 18:10.47 | Balstor | is there a way to access your TOC variables in your lua code esp the Inerface one |
| 18:11.15 | Dashkal | Your TOC variable should be a global |
| 18:11.23 | DARKGuy | I never farm though @.@... |
| 18:11.31 | Dashkal | erm, available through a global function |
| 18:11.36 | DARKGuy | all I do is raid and pvp xD |
| 18:11.44 | Balstor | hmm that could work, thanks |
| 18:12.20 | Dashkal | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetAddOnMetadata |
| 18:13.30 | vithos | does GridStatusAFK not work? |
| 18:13.41 | Toadkiller | SunTsu: In bagnon all the bags are listed at the bottom of character and bank. U just drag between them... |
| 18:14.07 | Toadkiller | vithos: It does for me |
| 18:15.42 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: Hm, maybe I should look at that, if there will be no support for a bag bar in the long run in bt4. Thanks. Right now I am content with bt3 and baggins, though |
| 18:15.57 | vithos | hrmm.. i must be doing something wrong then |
| 18:16.23 | vithos | Toadkiller: you have it setup as CenterText? |
| 18:16.29 | vithos | or a border/corner |
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| 18:17.06 | kergoth | would be nice if baggins had a bag bar :\ |
| 18:17.17 | stew_a | does anyone have a good savevar->php parser, the one i normally use is having problems with this file? |
| 18:18.09 | NeoTron | Kazie: hai u must be new here! |
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| 18:18.18 | NeoTron | s/hai u/hi, you/ |
| 18:18.44 | Kazie | NeoTron: Why? |
| 18:19.18 | NeoTron | Kazie: just weird to see someone comment on purl with "wtf" :P |
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| 18:19.53 | Kazie | I figured it was a bot.. but i'm not a 24/7 active person in here :) .. but i've been here since sometime last summer or something hehe |
| 18:20.07 | SunTsu | ~purl |
| 18:20.08 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 18:20.12 | Kazie | lol |
| 18:20.13 | Kazie | ^^ |
| 18:20.14 | NeoTron | yeah the s// command is useful, if mostly unnecessary :P |
| 18:20.20 | SunTsu | ~pat purl |
| 18:20.21 | purl | ACTION pats purl and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 18:20.25 | NeoTron | ~botsnack |
| 18:20.25 | purl | :), NeoTron |
| 18:20.38 | Kazie | So i guess purl is a cat? :) |
| 18:20.39 | NeoTron | ~lart Kazie |
| 18:20.39 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of Kazie |
| 18:20.47 | Kazie | haha lol :) |
| 18:20.49 | NeoTron | ~fishslap Kazie |
| 18:20.49 | purl | ACTION slaps Kazie up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:20.58 | NeoTron | tons of uses, purl has |
| 18:21.03 | Kazie | purl > Qnet fish bot anytime :) |
| 18:21.15 | xyu` | does grid have any option similar to decursive where it shows how long a debuff / curse has been on a target (for kalecgos) |
| 18:21.18 | SunTsu | ~cartographer3 |
| 18:21.18 | purl | from memory, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 18:21.29 | SunTsu | ~emulate ckknight |
| 18:21.30 | purl | nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip |
| 18:22.03 | Kazie | lol ^^ |
| 18:22.14 | Kazie | Suntsu, you're spending too much time with purl :) |
| 18:23.15 | SunTsu | Kazie: I just find purl hilarious |
| 18:23.15 | Kazie | It sure is :) |
| 18:23.15 | Julith | xyu`: I think there even is a special grid addon for kalecgos |
| 18:23.33 | NeoTron | I need to fix my bars for kalecgos |
| 18:23.35 | xyu` | Julith: thanks i was just about to check that out. |
| 18:23.43 | NeoTron | it shows bars with timers for ppl inside and outside with the debuff |
| 18:24.00 | NeoTron | so not only do you know when people are about to leave demon realm but when they are about to be ported in |
| 18:24.19 | xyu` | Is this a private addon or are you talking about grid? |
| 18:24.49 | Kazie | nevcairiel: Do you have any ETA on the FadeOut feature for BT4? |
| 18:25.10 | nevcairiel | when its done |
| 18:26.09 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: when is it done? |
| 18:26.21 | nevcairiel | when you see a commit message saying so |
| 18:26.26 | Julith | lua>1 xor 0 |
| 18:26.27 | lua_bot | Julith: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '1' |
| 18:26.34 | NeoTron | zomg! |
| 18:26.43 | cncfanatics | there is no XOR ! muahaha |
| 18:26.44 | nevcairiel | lua> bit.bxor(1, 0) |
| 18:26.44 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1 |
| 18:27.00 | Julith | ah, thanks :) |
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| 18:27.44 | DARKGuy | Is there any way you can have two or more guilds chat with each other? |
| 18:27.48 | DARKGuy | in a shared channel |
| 18:28.12 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: Just create a custom channel? |
| 18:28.24 | xyu` | ./join <channelname> /# Hello everyone |
| 18:28.25 | Lukian | ^ |
| 18:28.28 | dylanm | DARKGuy: There are "guild alliance" addons that may make it more seamless. |
| 18:28.50 | DARKGuy | SunTsu: no way the entire guild is gonna join a channel xD |
| 18:29.18 | DARKGuy | dylanm: yeah we've looked at Guild2Guild and GuildAlliance but we were looking for something that not every guild member had to have |
| 18:29.28 | Chaud | What could be causing this http://urbad.net/wtfava.jpg |
| 18:29.39 | dylanm | You could make a mod that sent proxy messages to guild chat but that would be dumb as hell. |
| 18:29.49 | Chaud | it only happens to wow forum avatars one in a million times, but always on the wowhead viewer |
| 18:29.58 | vithos | DARKGuy: there's nothing simpler than joining a channel, i don't know what else you could possibly want |
| 18:30.14 | DARKGuy | vithos: I've suggested that already, but the gm doesn't want that :P |
| 18:30.15 | NeoTron | DARKGuy: theer is one other option: join the guilds into one guild. |
| 18:30.17 | vithos | put the channel info in the motd and harass people regularly if they're not in it |
| 18:30.29 | DARKGuy | NeoTron: nah, we're good as we are :P |
| 18:30.44 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73226 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: fix a missing comma, OOPS! Should start working again. |
| 18:30.53 | DARKGuy | vithos: won't work, we harrass them to register in the forum and they never do |
| 18:30.53 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 18:30.56 | NeoTron | the only way it could be made simpler is if Blizzard added an ability of guilds to start an alliance with an alliance channel to use |
| 18:31.00 | NeoTron | that would be cool though |
| 18:31.05 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 18:31.22 | vithos | DARKGuy: tell them they're ineligible for loot if they're not in the channel |
| 18:31.55 | DARKGuy | that'd be unfair, we don't want to apply stuff like that, just chat with each other without having to make them join a channel and confuse themselves |
| 18:32.09 | vithos | write an addon to compare the list of players in the custom channel to the list of players in the guild, and automatically whisper them every 30 minutes saying to /join whatever |
| 18:32.50 | DARKGuy | I'm thinking on an addon that will do this: Check if anybody else has the addon running, if not, then it will join a private addon channel with the selected guild(s) and pass messages to the other guild channels, as [Guild] <Player> <OtherGuild|Player> lol |
| 18:32.57 | NeoTron | last night our shaman in blues got 3 pieces of t6 and the trash haste ring |
| 18:33.40 | NeoTron | nice to gear up in a mostly geared up raid |
| 18:33.51 | dylanm | DARKGuy: That was my thought. It's quite ugly though. |
| 18:34.08 | DARKGuy | dylanm: yeah, but it could work while Blizzard makes some guild alliance chat thing :P |
| 18:34.17 | dylanm | I don't think that's something they care to do. |
| 18:34.25 | DARKGuy | I think so too |
| 18:34.33 | NeoTron | a metaguild |
| 18:35.03 | NeoTron | one thing I've wanted too is at least one higher level of officher chat |
| 18:38.42 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73227 10AutoBar/AutoBarOptions.lua: |
| 18:38.42 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 18:38.42 | CIA-41 | -- Only generate the top level options by default. Generate full options only when opening gui or drop down list. Saves about 500k of memory when not changing options. |
| 18:46.18 | cncfanatics | expo's externals seem messed up |
| 18:46.23 | cncfanatics | lacks acelocale |
| 18:47.02 | Kazie | How do you remove the damn backdrop thing on CoolDownButtons?! :S |
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| 18:48.24 | dylanm | cncfanatics: Yeah I noticed that too. |
| 18:49.11 | NeoTron | SO i got this idea for an alternate buff display |
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| 18:49.55 | NeoTron | all longer buffs are seen by mousing over an icon. any buff with a duration less than a configurable amount (configurable perhaps by buff) is shown in a moer verbose fashion |
| 18:50.11 | NeoTron | and soem buffs, say trinkets and equipment procs, are shown regardless |
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| 18:50.23 | NeoTron | basically remove the redundancy of buff displays |
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| 18:50.58 | NeoTron | another option that'd be nice is to show the buffs you don't have (raid buffs based on raid / party composition as well as personal buffs such as fel armor) |
| 18:51.23 | DARKGuy | mousing over an icon to see all your non-timed buffs seem counter-interactive to me |
| 18:51.46 | NeoTron | why? (and I didn't say "non-timed" but anything not about to expire shortly) |
| 18:52.32 | DARKGuy | well I understood it as that o_o... my mistake then :P. Well, it's easier to look at your buffs than to move your mouse somewhere on the screen when you're doing other stuff with the mouse instead |
| 18:52.58 | DARKGuy | sometimes I'm lazy and run around using the mouse only, if I had to do that then I'd have to stop, mouse over, then move again |
| 18:53.01 | DARKGuy | instead of moving my eyes |
| 18:53.01 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 18:53.06 | NeoTron | the whole point is |
| 18:53.15 | NeoTron | you don't need to know that you have fort with 55m duration |
| 18:53.18 | NeoTron | that's usless information |
| 18:53.25 | DARKGuy | 55m yes |
| 18:53.29 | NeoTron | now you would want to know I don't have fort OR it's about to expire |
| 18:53.33 | DARKGuy | but you'd like to know that you have fort :P |
| 18:53.36 | Kazie | I must admit i don't like the idea at all about mouseover buffs to see them ... regardless of the buff... but that's just me.. i like to see all my buffs at all times helps me plan also |
| 18:53.36 | DARKGuy | ah |
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| 18:53.38 | DARKGuy | cool idea :P |
| 18:53.56 | NeoTron | you'd like to know that you don't have buffs you should have or that the duration is short |
| 18:53.57 | DARKGuy | me too |
| 18:54.16 | NeoTron | Kazie: why do you need to know that you have fort, ai and motw with >10-15m left? |
| 18:54.30 | Kazie | I like that |
| 18:54.44 | Kazie | I like to know exactly what buffs i have and when they're expiring |
| 18:55.22 | NeoTron | but why? |
| 18:55.43 | NeoTron | meaning what benefit is it to know that rather than knowing what buffs you're missing? I guess this is to a degree a negative buff bar |
| 18:56.00 | Kazie | If .. you idea would be useful - to me at least - it would be to show when a key is pressed.. e.x you bind it to show when pressing "L" or something ... that would be useful to me.. mouseover a buff to see it is useless in my opinion, no offense. |
| 18:56.21 | Kazie | your* |
| 18:56.22 | NeoTron | mouseover a button, not a buff |
| 18:56.25 | Peoii | NeoTron: You know, along those lines, I could honestly care less about what buffs I have most of the time... I'd prehaps prefer a configuable listing of what buffs I'm missing, and which need refreshed before the end of next event (aka: 15 minutes for Council, or something stupid like that)... good idea yo. |
| 18:56.25 | DARKGuy | its impossible to mouseover in middle of a battle tho |
| 18:56.34 | NeoTron | but a key binding would work too |
| 18:56.41 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 18:56.49 | NeoTron | with a at-mouse tooltiop |
| 18:56.58 | DARKGuy | I was thinking about having an addon that would tell me what buffs I'm missing last night when I was in hyjal |
| 18:57.10 | NeoTron | I do what more than one thing though |
| 18:57.25 | DARKGuy | some paladin put GBoW on me, I was like rofl |
| 18:57.27 | NeoTron | I want things like hyjal ring proc and trinkets etc to show more prominently |
| 18:57.34 | DARKGuy | = warrio |
| 18:57.35 | DARKGuy | r |
| 18:58.04 | Kazie | DARKGuy: That's probably because the paladins are out of buffs.. |
| 18:58.12 | Kazie | And then they just buff.. well.. to buff |
| 18:58.16 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 18:58.16 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 18:58.18 | DARKGuy | =.= |
| 18:59.35 | Peoii | Speaking of buffs though... ugh, I'm seriously tempted to rewrite just the button portion of XRS into it's own seperate updated addon. |
| 18:59.53 | Peoii | I've yet to find another addon that handles raid rebuffing as easy. |
| 19:00.15 | xyu` | Has anyone heard of an addon that records / saves the lenght of a boss fight and maybe can display it on the tooltip? |
| 19:00.21 | xyu` | i'd really like one >_< |
| 19:00.38 | DARKGuy | no, but I love TimeToDie which tells me accurately when a boss is about to die |
| 19:00.46 | xyu` | i tried it |
| 19:00.46 | NeoTron | Peoii: zomgbuffs? |
| 19:00.53 | xyu` | it wasn't very acurate for me |
| 19:01.04 | Psycho|Work | I'm wondering what possible purpose an in-game addon that does that would serve that just looking at WWS afterwards wouldn't. |
| 19:01.07 | DARKGuy | Well my GM is really happy about my inter-guild chat addon idea |
| 19:01.09 | DARKGuy | :) |
| 19:01.22 | NeoTron | xyu`: interesting idea really. could use bigwigs events I guess (since boss win isn't always easy to figure out) |
| 19:01.24 | xyu` | i think seeing an average kill time would benefit me more. but i might give it another shot :( |
| 19:01.34 | Peoii | NeoTron: Tried it, didn't like it for some reason... maybe it's that I didn't find the setup for the quick "at a glance" that I like out of XRS... maybe it's that the buff icon that I did see was... to large... who knows. |
| 19:01.59 | Kazie | DARKGuy: Why would you want an addon to tell you when a boss is dying?.. i mean.. why not just look at the target frame? .. that's pretty accurate i'd say |
| 19:01.59 | NeoTron | Peoii: but.. rebuffing can be done by just rolling the mousewheel too |
| 19:02.29 | DARKGuy | Kazie: well I was really tight on time and wanted to kill archimonde last night... I wanted to know how much time I had left until he died |
| 19:02.29 | xyu` | NeoTron: you mean like the PvP fight in Magisters? As long as it stops recording when i hear the FF theme song, is good enough for me :P |
| 19:02.30 | Peoii | Which is another thing I didn't like ;) I zoom quite a bit, and it'd stand me up while drinking in order to buff people. wasted to much food ;) |
| 19:02.45 | nappy- | is there an actionbar addon out allowing different sets of actions? |
| 19:03.08 | DARKGuy | Kazie: and it also works to "benchmark" the guild performance against a boss over and over again |
| 19:03.32 | xyu` | nappy-: Like the default button pages? :D |
| 19:03.47 | durcyn | DARKGuy: TimeToDie will show you estimated time left, for duration i usually just use wws |
| 19:04.00 | DARKGuy | durcyn: wws? |
| 19:04.06 | xyu` | wowwebstats |
| 19:04.06 | DARKGuy | I've never heard of it :$ |
| 19:04.06 | durcyn | wowwebstats |
| 19:04.07 | nappy- | for all bars at the same time? |
| 19:04.11 | DARKGuy | ah, that website |
| 19:04.11 | xyu` | but i'd like to see it in game durcyn |
| 19:04.17 | DARKGuy | ya me too |
| 19:04.20 | Peoii | NeoTron: I guess the other thing I like is, when I'm leading a raid, I can quickly look at XRS and make sure the spriests are actually buffing their groups, and make sure everyone has their essential buffs before we pull. Whereas with zomgbuffs, I was limited to what my class was handling. |
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| 19:04.34 | durcyn | it can be done, I just don't know of anything that does exactly that at the moment |
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| 19:04.46 | xyu` | durcyn, ok thanks. I'll keep an eye out |
| 19:04.51 | xyu` | Or ask some bored authors to make one :P |
| 19:04.54 | durcyn | it actually sounds like something that might be appropriate to add to TimeToDie |
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| 19:05.26 | xyu` | well it's pretty important for mage cooldown management (which i'm not very good at yet) |
| 19:05.29 | NeoTron | xyu`: I meant fight like kalecgos or heck any fight where you die |
| 19:05.31 | xyu` | and i think this would help me. |
| 19:05.44 | NeoTron | well when you die is irrelevant but kalecgos and m'uru |
| 19:06.25 | AvitusLC | Anyone use the mod "Grim Reaper"?? |
| 19:06.40 | AvitusLC | How do you make it switch targets? Half the time it works on hover, other time it just locks on on sonmeone |
| 19:07.34 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73228 10StatBlocks/ (StatBlocks.lua StatBlocks.toc): StatBlocks: Fix bug with font being nil |
| 19:08.03 | AvitusLC | No one use Grim reaper? (Or know of a mod that shows deathlogs since 2.4)? |
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| 19:08.15 | xyu` | Another reason i don't like time to die is if i know the fight can fit 2 icy veins in before 20% i will use my IV at the earliest time possible. |
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| 19:08.26 | xyu` | and timetodie requires a bit of time to guestimate |
| 19:08.39 | NeoTron | measuring time isn't exactly solid either |
| 19:08.47 | NeoTron | not like you'll get the same duration attempt to attempt |
| 19:08.50 | xyu` | of course not many fights last that long so i could just memorize which ones do :P |
| 19:08.59 | ckknight | waves at SunTsu |
| 19:09.24 | aestil | if someone just wants to see what dps they are doing |
| 19:09.31 | aestil | which of the many meter's is good |
| 19:09.41 | aestil | this would be someone who previously thought dr. dmg was a dmg meter |
| 19:09.45 | aestil | so it has to be pretty simple. |
| 19:10.03 | xyu` | i personally use recount, but it's been acting very strange of late. |
| 19:10.29 | xyu` | lastnight i died mid fight, got a rez and was somehow like 100's of thousands dmg over our first place, which is completely impossible. |
| 19:11.09 | xyu` | other times it didn't even record at all. it had like 4 people on the dmg list. |
| 19:11.10 | durcyn | "estimated world population to pass 6,666,666,666 today", hmm. arrowmaster, you're missing out, man. |
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| 19:12.52 | nappy- | how to clean up unused libraries with wau ? |
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| 19:15.49 | NeoTron | manually uninstall them? |
| 19:16.11 | NeoTron | so a friend started making an addon that is a green box |
| 19:16.19 | NeoTron | a very configurable green box (he was doing it to learn ace3) |
| 19:16.30 | NeoTron | now he's added so it's red if you miss buffs, green if you don't :P |
| 19:16.42 | NeoTron | which is similar to the idea I had |
| 19:16.53 | dylanm | I think JWU can remove unused libs, right? |
| 19:17.30 | NeoTron | dylanm: it can yes |
| 19:18.53 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 19:18.56 | DARKGuy | meet the BuffBox |
| 19:19.00 | DARKGuy | of DOOM |
| 19:19.49 | DARKGuy | Im gonna make a warlock addon someday |
| 19:19.56 | DARKGuy | with a fork as picture |
| 19:20.00 | DARKGuy | called Fork of Truth |
| 19:22.19 | Burgermeal | say wut |
| 19:23.00 | silentium | nappy-: check the File menu in WAU |
| 19:23.15 | SunTsu | ckknight: Sorry, didn't mean to hilight you, was just demonstrating purl ;) |
| 19:23.17 | NeoTron | so he has a planned feature too |
| 19:23.30 | NeoTron | the box will be... yellow when you have the buff but duration is short (or some other color :) |
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| 19:23.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 19:23.55 | NeoTron | basically the main idea was a box that allows for easy verification that you are, in fact, ready to start |
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| 19:25.37 | DARKGuy | hm.... pretty interesting |
| 19:25.39 | DARKGuy | simple but cool |
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| 19:26.25 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 19:26.25 | syeren | Funkeh` :p |
| 19:26.26 | syeren | www.gold4guild.com |
| 19:26.28 | syeren | >_< |
| 19:26.53 | NeoTron | I think I'll make an addon that shows buff bars of current buffs on holding down a key |
| 19:27.19 | NeoTron | with an optional area to show specific buffs or buffs with smaller durations |
| 19:27.21 | Funkeh` | syeren, update before I spank you |
| 19:27.25 | NeoTron | I{ want to see the buffs, but not all the time |
| 19:27.43 | syeren | I have the latest Rev I think :p |
| 19:27.52 | syeren | Only just ran WAU. |
| 19:28.02 | NeoTron | because I don't have enough addons already :P |
| 19:29.48 | sacarasc | Funkeh`: what is your goldspam addon? |
| 19:31.52 | aestil | ckknight: can you make escape close cart3? or make that an option for me? |
| 19:32.51 | ckknight | aestil: can you file that on jira? |
| 19:33.03 | ckknight | I don't have time to look into it right now |
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| 19:35.22 | Dashkal | heh, that request keeps comming up :p |
| 19:36.25 | ckknight | I've been swamped with curseforge stuff |
| 19:36.30 | ckknight | we're getting ready to launch it for reals |
| 19:36.36 | Allara_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.45 | Cheads | ouch |
| 19:36.54 | nevcairiel | Allara_ fails :( |
| 19:36.56 | Allara_ | lol |
| 19:37.05 | DARKGuy | rofl |
| 19:37.26 | Toadkiller | Oh for the love of god what is the magic sauce to add a new svn folder? And this time im adding it to the wiki in a sensible spot |
| 19:37.41 | Toadkiller | ~~~ or something? |
| 19:37.53 | nevcairiel | thats your signature |
| 19:38.03 | nevcairiel | iirc |
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| 19:38.41 | Toadkiller | Im just guessing. I do this so infrequently it does not stick into long term memory |
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| 19:40.01 | Toadkiller | Let me ask it this way: how the hell do I add another set to PT#. So LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar for example |
| 19:40.12 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.14 | NeoTron | zomg zomg |
| 19:40.32 | Cheads | luv you long time! |
| 19:40.34 | cncfanatics | how does expo react on tables that have a lot of their methods defined by metatables ? |
| 19:41.37 | Funkeh` | sacarasc, it's called 'BadBoy' |
| 19:41.58 | Funkeh` | syeren, latest reve being |
| 19:42.22 | syeren | I just got the latest version again :p |
| 19:42.26 | syeren | Nice typing skills! |
| 19:43.38 | Funkeh` | :< |
| 19:43.49 | Funkeh` | syeren, whcih did you have before nub |
| 19:44.00 | Funkeh` | WHICH |
| 19:44.02 | syeren | The one before. |
| 19:44.02 | Funkeh` | >< |
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| 19:44.11 | Funkeh` | syeren, arg |
| 19:44.19 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73229 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar.lua: |
| 19:44.19 | CIA-41 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 19:44.19 | CIA-41 | - AutoBar fucking around trying to get a folder added to SVN |
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| 19:44.35 | Funkeh` | ~slap syeren |
| 19:44.36 | purl | ACTION slaps syeren, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:47.49 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73230 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar/: |
| 19:47.49 | CIA-41 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 19:47.49 | CIA-41 | - AutoBAr stuff |
| 19:52.08 | CIA-41 | 03antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r73231 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Fix for display errors produced when displayMax is greater than a bar's max value. |
| 19:54.06 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73232 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar.toc: |
| 19:54.06 | CIA-41 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 19:54.06 | CIA-41 | - AutoBar set |
| 19:54.27 | Cheads | Toadkiller is it possible to move a autobar without adding new empty buttons, so I can find something to drag 'on'? |
| 19:55.02 | vithos | "move the bars"? |
| 19:55.35 | Cheads | yes.. move the autobars |
| 19:55.41 | Toadkiller | Move the bars mode lets u move bars. Move the buttons mode lets u move buttons around on a bar or between bars... |
| 19:55.55 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73233 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar.lua: |
| 19:55.55 | CIA-41 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 19:55.55 | CIA-41 | - delte |
| 19:55.56 | Toadkiller | So which are u trying to do? |
| 19:56.09 | Cheads | yes.... if I enable move the bars .. I have to find a green area so I can move it.. |
| 19:56.20 | Cheads | and I need empty buttons before a green area show up |
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| 19:56.52 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73234 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar.lua: |
| 19:56.53 | CIA-41 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 19:56.53 | CIA-41 | - AutoBar sets |
| 19:57.15 | Toadkiller | ? why would you not just click-drag the bar? |
| 19:57.22 | Cheads | ie. I cannot move the bar by dragging where the Bandage button is |
| 19:57.28 | Cheads | or any other of my buttons |
| 19:57.29 | Toadkiller | why not? |
| 19:57.31 | kergoth | wow, autobar has improved a lot since i switched away from it ages ago.. think its about time to go back |
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| 19:58.07 | Toadkiller | sweet tx kerg. Im gonna add shuffle today as soon as I get memory shrunk down a bit with this lib change |
| 19:58.08 | Cheads | why not? I dont know.. it's like the green 'box' is behind the bandage, heal, mana, etc. buttons.. |
| 19:58.08 | xyu` | kergoth: i was thinking the same thing, because i'm wayyy too lazy to set up PT3bar to show flamecaps and destro pots |
| 19:58.41 | Toadkiller | After I add shuffle AutoBar will finally be back to the functionality it had pre BC |
| 19:58.56 | kergoth | drops pt3bar, gfw_feedomatic, tradesbar, etc in favor of autobar |
| 19:59.01 | Cheads | atleast nothing happens when I try to drag on the Bandage button when I have Move Bars enabled |
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| 19:59.34 | Toadkiller | Tell me what color the bar is when u are trying this? |
| 20:00.40 | Cheads | it's green where there aren't any buttons.. and the normal color where there are buttons |
| 20:01.17 | luxus | is autobar still a cpu beast? |
| 20:01.20 | cncfanatics | yep |
| 20:01.31 | Cheads | I have 3 rows and 2 coloums.. and 6 buttons.. but I have to set it to 4rows and 2 columns, then I can drag the bar in the last 2 empty buttons |
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| 20:01.48 | Toadkiller | Mmm thats peculiar. So the buttons are on top of the move frame somehow |
| 20:02.18 | Toadkiller | Oh damn wut? Ok lemme look at this. |
| 20:02.20 | Cheads | yes, alpha = 1 |
| 20:03.01 | Cheads | doesn't seem to matter if I change the frame level |
| 20:05.00 | Toadkiller | Ah ok I changed some layers stuff. If you set the bar Frame Level to "Low" from medium or high and reload it will let you drag. Ill check in a fix in a bit. |
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| 20:05.51 | Cheads | great, thanks |
| 20:05.53 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: do you mind if I steal some code from libDropdown ? |
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| 20:08.10 | Cheads | Toadkiller, thanks that helped |
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| 20:09.36 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to set a order for Modules to be enabled in Ace3? |
| 20:10.07 | Xinhuan | specify it in the TOC ;p |
| 20:11.00 | luxus | Toadkiller: so you optimize the cpu usage of autobar alot in the last 4 month? if yes i think i will give it a try again |
| 20:11.20 | [SW]Dodge | the module i want to be loaded first is the first in the module list in TOC |
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| 20:18.35 | xyu` | anyone good with macros, can you tell me if /cast [target=focus,exists,harm] Polymorph; Polymorph would cast sheep on a focus if it's there, if there is no focus would it cast on my target instead? |
| 20:19.00 | NivFreak | yes |
| 20:19.35 | xyu` | cool thanks |
| 20:19.54 | NeoTron | luxus: I've tried to ask that question a few times |
| 20:20.15 | NeoTron | I recently swiched from autobar to (arguably) inferior solutions because autobar uses too much cpu for no apparent reason |
| 20:20.19 | Antiarc | cncfanatics: go wild |
| 20:20.31 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: <3 |
| 20:20.31 | luxus | NeoTron: i use buffet atm |
| 20:20.51 | NivFreak | NeoTron: that sucks, I just installed autobar last night |
| 20:20.51 | NivFreak | =/ |
| 20:21.31 | cncfanatics | I'm happy with my 10 flexbar buttons at the bottomleft of my screen |
| 20:21.32 | NeoTron | NivFreak: your mileage might vary but I don't like addons that use CPU while I do nothing with them (itemrack did that too - ofc I am a lot happier with closetgnome) |
| 20:21.37 | cncfanatics | I just drag on whatever I need to it |
| 20:21.39 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Hmm, is LibDropdown Ace3 Dewdrop? Or what's that project :O |
| 20:21.48 | Gagorian | How's it going? |
| 20:21.59 | NeoTron | although I do have an issue with closetgnome -if I change enchants it won't find the item. I can liev with that, sort of |
| 20:22.11 | vithos | NeoTron: yeah, the cpu rape on leaving combat irritates me |
| 20:22.12 | NivFreak | cncfanatics: I managed to clean up 2 bars from my UI last night by just putting autobar up for food/trinkets/crafting |
| 20:22.12 | NeoTron | however the main issue is that editing the set and saving it with the reenchanted item doesn't work |
| 20:22.32 | NeoTron | I have to actually add a new set with the same name for it to take effect |
| 20:23.08 | cncfanatics | thats why I just drag the stuff I need on actionbuttons instead of relying on autobar |
| 20:24.33 | NivFreak | I still ended up with an action bar for pots |
| 20:24.43 | NivFreak | because I couldn't make autobar handle them the way I wanted to |
| 20:26.17 | vithos | hmm.. why doesn't autobar build a castsequence macro to use multiple items in order? wouldn't that be possible? |
| 20:26.28 | vithos | out of combat of course |
| 20:26.35 | NeoTron | I wanted a macro to use healstone and then a pot |
| 20:26.40 | NeoTron | problem is, it actually uses both if it can |
| 20:28.38 | luxus | NeoTron: did you try buffet? |
| 20:28.41 | vithos | or actually it could just /use /use instead of /castsequence |
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| 20:29.35 | luxus | NeoTron: buffet rocks for that |
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| 20:29.57 | vithos | what are the macros that buffet builds like? |
| 20:30.53 | NeoTron | luxus: nope haven't |
| 20:31.07 | NeoTron | vithos: /use Healthstone /use Healing Potion => uses BOTH |
| 20:31.11 | NeoTron | or either if one is on cooldown |
| 20:31.20 | NeoTron | I want to use first healthstone, then healing potion |
| 20:31.31 | vithos | if you have multiple items available for the same cooldown type though |
| 20:31.42 | Toadkiller | luxus: there have been a lot of changes in the last 4 months. You would have to try it out & see if it works for you |
| 20:32.46 | luxus | NeoTron: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8370-Buffet.html |
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| 20:34.38 | NeoTron | luxus: so it's just a food/water macro? |
| 20:34.48 | luxus | NeoTron: NO |
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| 20:35.02 | NeoTron | so how can it accomplish more with just 2 macros? |
| 20:35.22 | luxus | NeoTron: if you out of combat it display food. if you in combat it display healthstone |
| 20:35.25 | luxus | or pot |
| 20:35.34 | NeoTron | but... |
| 20:35.39 | luxus | no but :D |
| 20:35.39 | NeoTron | how? you can't change macros mid-combat? |
| 20:35.50 | luxus | but it works :D |
| 20:35.53 | NeoTron | I just don't understand how it works |
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| 20:36.11 | NeoTron | and it can handle using health stones and then health pot somehow? |
| 20:36.13 | Dashkal | change the macro right on the event before the UI locks? |
| 20:36.18 | luxus | yes |
| 20:36.27 | luxus | it use stone.. and then pot |
| 20:36.41 | luxus | and with shift it use bandage |
| 20:36.54 | luxus | AND its display the right icon |
| 20:37.17 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 20:37.20 | NeoTron | hot |
| 20:37.26 | NeoTron | wonder how the hell it can do that |
| 20:37.41 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73235 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassBar.lua: |
| 20:37.42 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 20:37.42 | CIA-41 | -- Fix drag frames when Moving Bars |
| 20:38.24 | NeoTron | aha |
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| 20:38.33 | NeoTron | [nocombat] and [combat] |
| 20:39.22 | NeoTron | and the stone/pot thing is handled with a cast sequence |
| 20:39.31 | NeoTron | so if you run out of stones you'd have to double-press it I guess |
| 20:39.37 | luxus | no |
| 20:39.41 | luxus | no double pres :D |
| 20:42.14 | NeoTron | so you can only use one HS and one potion period? |
| 20:42.32 | NeoTron | or rather you have to use a potion after using a HS.. |
| 20:42.58 | luxus | i use hs and then the icon change to healpot |
| 20:43.15 | NeoTron | right |
| 20:43.18 | NeoTron | it's a cast sequence |
| 20:43.32 | luxus | when i came ooc the icon change to food |
| 20:43.37 | Diao | /castsequence reset=120 Healthstone, Pot |
| 20:43.37 | Diao | ? |
| 20:44.04 | Gary135791 | probably |
| 20:44.06 | luxus | but if i just have a healpot i dont have to press the button 2 times |
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| 20:44.37 | luxus | just test it :D |
| 20:44.41 | NeoTron | well |
| 20:44.53 | NeoTron | scenarion: 1 healthstone, 1 pot |
| 20:45.04 | NeoTron | castsequence doesn't progress if the action fails right? |
| 20:45.05 | Gary135791 | /use [nocombat] Conjured Manna Biscuit, /castsequence [combat] reset=120 Healthstone, Super Health Potion? |
| 20:45.10 | NeoTron | so a reset means you can'y use the pot after 120s |
| 20:45.18 | Gary135791 | Position of [combat] is probably wrong :P |
| 20:45.25 | NeoTron | Gary135791: that is the essential idea |
| 20:46.29 | luxus | and how does the icon change? :D |
| 20:46.45 | Gary135791 | it always changes with castsequence macros |
| 20:47.13 | Gary135791 | if it's editing the macro when entering/exiting combat though, it should be easy |
| 20:47.56 | Gary135791 | (15:45:20) (NeoTron) so a reset means you can'y use the pot after 120s << what do you mean? you use HS, it switches to pot, it would then switch back to HS |
| 20:48.04 | Gary135791 | since it reached the end of it's sequence |
| 20:48.23 | Gary135791 | after you use the pot, I mean |
| 20:50.38 | luxus | anyway it works great.. it supports alot of pots and food |
| 20:51.13 | CIA-41 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r73236 10CoolDownButtons/ (9 files in 5 dirs): CoolDownButtons: lot of changes, dont know what all ;) |
| 20:51.20 | NeoTron | Gary135791: I mean: I have 1 HS, 1 potion. I use the HS at time X. at time X+125 I use it again and it fails becauseI have no more HS |
| 20:51.23 | NeoTron | no? |
| 20:51.29 | Broesel01 | an question. when i write in my localization L['A'dal'] = "A'dal" i get an error for the ' in the nick. what can i do? |
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| 20:51.35 | NeoTron | because it reset the sequence it's not stuck trying to use an item I don't have |
| 20:51.47 | NeoTron | Broesel01: "A'dal" |
| 20:51.50 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: I can't drag buttons on Autobar |
| 20:51.51 | Gary135791 | L["A'dal"] |
| 20:51.58 | Gary135791 | dunno if lua supports that though D: |
| 20:52.16 | [SW]Dodge | Broesel01: L["A'dal"] = "A\'dal" |
| 20:52.18 | Gary135791 | can also try L['A\'dal'] |
| 20:52.27 | VonhintenHOME` | I know of a book that can help clear that up for you... |
| 20:53.45 | CIA-41 | 03snago * r73237 10/branches/oUF_PowerSpark/: |
| 20:53.45 | CIA-41 | oUF_PowerSpark: |
| 20:53.45 | CIA-41 | - Branch for mana ticker. |
| 20:54.20 | VonhintenHOME` | Antiarc, you there |
| 20:54.36 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: Ah, works, but I have to enabel both bar and button moving |
| 20:54.42 | SunTsu | enable, that is |
| 20:56.47 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: Sorry, ignore me, I don't know what was wrong, but it works again the way it is supposed to be |
| 20:58.08 | Toadkiller | SunTsu: I need to give bar drag precedence over move button. then there will be no confusion. |
| 20:58.25 | CIA-41 | 03snago 07manaticker * r73238 10oUF_PowerSpark/ (7 files): |
| 20:58.25 | CIA-41 | oUF_PowerSpark: |
| 20:58.25 | CIA-41 | - Can now tick for mana as well as energy. Using the same tick detection method as energy. |
| 20:58.25 | CIA-41 | - Configurable alpha setting for the FSR/ticker spark. |
| 20:58.25 | CIA-41 | - Heavily drycoded. Will most probably feast on your babies. |
| 20:59.34 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: I was just wondering why I could not drag any buttons. After enabling both dragging modes it worked, and since then it still does, like the way I know it |
| 21:00.16 | |Snago| | did I manage to get the branching right? >.< |
| 21:01.16 | CIA-41 | 03miles * r73239 10aUF_RangeCheck_M/ (aUF_RangeCheck.lua aUF_RangeCheck_M.toc): aUF_RangeCheck_M - Fixed bug which prevented loading with aUF trunk version when Ace3 is available. Bumped toc. |
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| 21:06.14 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73240 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassBar.lua: |
| 21:06.14 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 21:06.14 | CIA-41 | -- Give Move Bars coloring precedence over Move Buttons |
| 21:06.28 | Mondego | g'day chaps |
| 21:06.52 | Toadkiller | Tossa another shrimp on the barbie mate |
| 21:07.09 | Mondego | I could use some help, if there's some friendly soul out there |
| 21:07.23 | SunTsu | ~asktoask |
| 21:07.24 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 21:07.38 | Mondego | right, ok then |
| 21:07.45 | Toadkiller | ... just ask |
| 21:07.59 | Mondego | I'm looking for an addon that reports my dispels (i play priest), much like afflicted or dispelreporter used to do |
| 21:08.00 | SunTsu | should invite pulr over to #linux.de at IRCNET ;) |
| 21:08.05 | Mondego | they haven't been working for me since 2.4 |
| 21:09.56 | Mondego | : ( |
| 21:09.59 | aestil | Antiarc: want to take a break and do heroic magister's terrace? |
| 21:10.10 | Antiarc | Iiiii shouldn't |
| 21:10.12 | Antiarc | But sure |
| 21:10.16 | Antiarc | Sphinx is kicking ass. :D |
| 21:10.21 | aestil | what is sphinix? |
| 21:10.26 | Antiarc | It's a fulltext indexer |
| 21:10.41 | Antiarc | And it's approximately 9001 times faster than Ferret, which I was using before |
| 21:10.49 | aestil | fulltext indexer? |
| 21:10.57 | aestil | so that you can 'seaerch' inside a document? |
| 21:10.59 | Antiarc | Provides search capabilities, in this case, for blippr |
| 21:11.02 | |Snago| | OVER NINE THOUSAND?!!?!!! |
| 21:11.03 | Antiarc | More or less |
| 21:11.03 | aestil | ah |
| 21:11.05 | VonhintenHOME` | Oh, Antiarc... found an interesting situation in Omen, when doing a frame-by-frame over a fraps.. not sure if its by design |
| 21:11.12 | Antiarc | VonhintenHOME`: oh? |
| 21:11.38 | Antiarc | doing wildcard matching against a database, row by row, is slooooow |
| 21:11.46 | Antiarc | So I use an indexing service to make it faaaaaast |
| 21:12.16 | Antiarc | It took about 20 minutes to do a full indexing of the DB with Ferret. Sphinx takes...like 6 seconds. No exaggeration. |
| 21:12.28 | Viper_0000 | how do you hide the class icons in proximo |
| 21:12.29 | Viper_0000 | quick |
| 21:12.32 | Viper_0000 | somebody! |
| 21:12.39 | VonhintenHOME` | We had a enh shaman unleash a WF bomb on a mob that the tank only had a couple k threat on... tank #1, me #2, shaman #3 Then all of a sudden the shaman's threat jumps to 2.9k, threat like 2.4k/s |
| 21:12.53 | VonhintenHOME` | But he stayed at #3 |
| 21:13.01 | VonhintenHOME` | then it reordered him to #1 |
| 21:13.10 | Antiarc | Yeah, the bar updates take a little bit of time to visually register |
| 21:13.18 | Antiarc | It's short enough that it shouldn't generally matter, in practice |
| 21:13.26 | Antiarc | It's due to the bar animation stuff |
| 21:13.26 | VonhintenHOME` | ok |
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| 21:13.36 | Antiarc | Ordering is done by bar's value, rather than bar's visual value |
| 21:14.34 | aestil | ckknight: no maps for inside ironforge? |
| 21:14.44 | ckknight | I was working on it last weekend |
| 21:14.52 | Mondego | so noone knows of a dispel reporter that works post 2.4? |
| 21:14.52 | ckknight | but I've been swamped with Curseforge stuff |
| 21:14.56 | ckknight | we're releasing that soon, though |
| 21:15.00 | ckknight | so hopefully things will cool down |
| 21:15.08 | aestil | what is curseforge? |
| 21:15.18 | DARKGuy | sourceforge but for cursegaming ? |
| 21:15.56 | ckknight | curseforge is a developer-centric website that provides lots of fun features |
| 21:16.09 | ckknight | e.g. free repositories to use (one or more per project, not shared like wowace) |
| 21:16.18 | ckknight | svn and git support (soon hg as well) |
| 21:16.28 | ckknight | free wiki-esque page dealy |
| 21:16.52 | ckknight | tickets system far pimper than jira |
| 21:17.02 | ckknight | permissions over repositories |
| 21:17.23 | ckknight | automatic packaging (like in wowace), but with packaging of tags as well, providing a distinction between alpha/beta/release |
| 21:17.45 | ckknight | forums |
| 21:17.54 | ckknight | in any event, it's pretty cool stuff |
| 21:18.01 | ckknight | Kaelten and I are the ones making it |
| 21:18.03 | DARKGuy | so you can use jwu with curseforge ? |
| 21:18.14 | Kyahx | anyone know of a patch mirror |
| 21:18.20 | ckknight | jwu? |
| 21:18.34 | DARKGuy | jWoWUpdater |
| 21:18.51 | ckknight | don't think so, unless JWoWUpdater supports the psyn format |
| 21:18.57 | ckknight | oh, there's also automatic synchronization with curse.com |
| 21:19.14 | DARKGuy | sweeeet |
| 21:19.14 | ckknight | so if you say, make a tag on your repo, it'll end up on curse.com pretty quickly |
| 21:19.14 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 21:19.16 | DARKGuy | what about WAU ? |
| 21:19.32 | ckknight | DARKGuy: same deal, if it supports psyn (but I don't think it does) |
| 21:19.44 | SunTsu | I wish curse would stop havin those nag screens about wowdb, it still gives JWU problems |
| 21:19.44 | DARKGuy | ckknight: boo, I'll stay with wowace for the time being then :( |
| 21:19.49 | ckknight | also, Kolie's writing a new Curse Client, which should be far pimper than the current offerings |
| 21:19.49 | DARKGuy | loves updaters |
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| 21:19.58 | DARKGuy | and with less wow-ad-ware ? |
| 21:20.11 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: It synchs with Curse, so just use JWU with curse, like you do today |
| 21:20.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:20.25 | Viper_0000 | so no one knows how to hide the class icon in proximo, lol |
| 21:20.31 | DARKGuy | SunTsu: Ah, I misread I thought it was the other way around |
| 21:20.34 | DARKGuy | cooooool stuff |
| 21:20.35 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 21:20.42 | ckknight | DARKGuy: question: how do you think curse would run if there were no ads? how do you think they'd be able to pay their employees? :-P |
| 21:20.56 | aestil | you should work for free ckknight |
| 21:20.57 | aestil | ;) |
| 21:21.03 | Antiarc | Everything on the internet is free to run |
| 21:21.06 | Antiarc | This is common knowledge |
| 21:21.09 | ckknight | right, how do you expect me to eat? |
| 21:21.13 | DARKGuy | ckknight: well the website is alright, I just find their updater way too intrusive xD |
| 21:21.16 | aestil | instance maps and instance loot along with the indoor zones soon? |
| 21:21.17 | Antiarc | Bandwidth, time, and skill are infinite and free |
| 21:21.20 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: how do homeless people eat? |
| 21:21.24 | ckknight | DARKGuy: it's being rewritten |
| 21:21.26 | Tinyboom | so no more wau when it's released? |
| 21:21.30 | ckknight | actually, all curse projects will be transferred to curseforge |
| 21:21.34 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73241 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist |
| 21:21.34 | DARKGuy | ckknight: ya, I hope its for the goood :D |
| 21:21.37 | ckknight | btw |
| 21:21.49 | ckknight | initially, then they'll sync with curse |
| 21:21.55 | ckknight | and all project management on curse will go away |
| 21:21.57 | DarkElf | ckknight - so if ya put cart3 for example in a folder and someone does murlock translation is it gonna overwrite the file or will it go into a separate file? i dont see no point in downloading cart3 100 times for a translation or library update but thats my opinion |
| 21:22.15 | ckknight | DarkElf: um, what? |
| 21:22.53 | DarkElf | im saying if ya have a main branch of file, have that, then under that can be like translations |
| 21:22.54 | aestil | i think he was saying, it seems like localizations should be seperate from having to update the whole addon |
| 21:23.36 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: That totally dependy on the client you use to acces the repository |
| 21:23.53 | DARKGuy | SunTsu: right now I'm sticking with jwu ^^ |
| 21:24.18 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: You have a misconception there. Curseforge is about development and not end user ;) |
| 21:24.25 | ckknight | DarkElf: well, an interesting thing about how curseforge works is that you can have multiple repositories per project. |
| 21:24.37 | ckknight | and anyone can clone a project's mainline repository if the license allows |
| 21:24.59 | ckknight | so you could be like "Cart3 is shit, I wanna add ponies to it", so you clone mainline, call it "omg-ponies" |
| 21:25.16 | ckknight | then you're the repository manager for the Cartographer3/omg-ponies repository |
| 21:25.19 | ckknight | and you can commit to that |
| 21:25.33 | DARKGuy | rofl @ ponies example |
| 21:25.38 | ckknight | and once you're satisfied, you can tell me "hey, I added ponies, they're awesome!" |
| 21:25.47 | ckknight | and I'd be like, "oh man, ponies ARE awesome!" |
| 21:26.06 | ckknight | and I'd then do git pull omg-ponies and mainline would have ponies |
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| 21:26.19 | Shirik | I think I have just confirmed that ckknight is insane |
| 21:26.23 | ckknight | and then you could either close your clone or keep coding. |
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| 21:26.55 | ckknight | in any event, it allows for multiple people to work on multiple paths of a project while allowing for cordial communication as well as easy merging and code sharing |
| 21:27.11 | ckknight | even if I don't agree with what you're doing, you don't have to hack on the mainline master branch |
| 21:27.23 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: when someone searches for Cart3, will the result be both omg-ponies and Cart3 with Cart3 'highlighted' in some fashion? |
| 21:27.35 | DarkElf | sounds cool, i just get confused by ace system cause i see a library update, think i need to get it and it turns out to be just a translation so i really wasted my time downloading |
| 21:27.39 | CIA-41 | 03digmouse * r73242 10FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu/ (5 files): |
| 21:27.39 | CIA-41 | FuBar_TrinityBars2Fu: |
| 21:27.39 | CIA-41 | -Add zhCN and zhTW locales |
| 21:27.39 | CIA-41 | -minor core adjustments for locale changes |
| 21:27.43 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: there's the Cartographer3 project, it has two repositories, "mainline" and "omg-ponies" |
| 21:28.02 | ckknight | curseforge.com/projects/Cartographer3/repositories/omg-ponies/ would provide data on that repo |
| 21:28.10 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: i'm thinking as a user simply trying to download cart3. i go to curse and search for cart3 |
| 21:28.16 | ckknight | you'd be getting the mainline. |
| 21:28.25 | ckknight | curse wouldn't see the sister repos |
| 21:28.32 | Josh_Borke | so how would i then get to the other one if i wanted it? |
| 21:28.41 | nevcairiel | only curseforge, i assume |
| 21:28.43 | ckknight | you'd go to curseforge and download it there, since you're a power user. |
| 21:29.03 | ckknight | if someone decides to actually fork and make their own map addon using Cart3 as a base, then they can make a whole new project which'd be syndicated to curse. |
| 21:29.12 | DARKGuy | I like development stuff though, it's cutting edge and at the same time I can fix it myself and submit patches :D |
| 21:29.34 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r73243 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: tweak a URL |
| 21:29.41 | Josh_Borke | ok, so i go to curseforge and search cart3, what gets returned to me? cart3's curseforge page and then a link to all the branches? |
| 21:29.51 | ckknight | yep. |
| 21:29.56 | Josh_Borke | ok |
| 21:30.04 | Josh_Borke | just trying to get the feel for the workflow |
| 21:30.43 | ckknight | so you have three kinds of forks, basically: (a) branches, which are on the same repo, requires explicit author consent. (b) clones, which are separate repositories, but under the same project. Requires an open-source license or explicit author permission. (c) forks, which are separate projects. Requires open-source license or explicit author permission as well as a name change. |
| 21:32.25 | ckknight | any questions or comments? I'm very willing to hear feedback |
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| 21:33.21 | DarkElf | branch - fubar, clone- fubar 2, fork - fubarMurlockFu |
| 21:33.47 | ckknight | yea, only the fork's name shouldn't include fubar in it, probably |
| 21:33.55 | ckknight | more like "awesomebar" |
| 21:33.56 | ckknight | that'd work |
| 21:34.06 | ckknight | we don't want trademark confusion, basically |
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| 21:34.36 | DarkElf | so dependicies would go in a fork? |
| 21:34.43 | ckknight | dependencies? |
| 21:34.47 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
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| 21:34.57 | ckknight | forks are basically just separate projects |
| 21:35.05 | DarkElf | yeah like all those fubar plugins require fubar so they go in forks? |
| 21:35.15 | ckknight | they wouldn't be considered forks |
| 21:35.22 | ckknight | they're just separate projects |
| 21:35.29 | ckknight | FuBar_ClockFu is distinct from FuBar |
| 21:35.39 | ckknight | though actually it'd have a ProjectRelation to FuBar, I believe |
| 21:35.47 | ckknight | that's Kaelten's thing, though |
| 21:37.08 | Burgermeal | How do I get my addon added to the WoWAceUpdater? |
| 21:37.18 | Josh_Borke | Burgermeal: you read the wiki about svn stuff |
| 21:37.19 | ckknight | Burgermeal: you put it on the wowace svn. |
| 21:37.33 | Burgermeal | it's on the svn, been there for a day ;_; |
| 21:38.11 | ckknight | what's the name of the addon? |
| 21:38.15 | Burgermeal | SummonBot |
| 21:38.38 | DARKGuy | what does it do? xD |
| 21:39.04 | vithos | Burgermeal: it's on the updater already |
| 21:39.05 | Josh_Borke | Burgermeal: read the errors link on files.wowace.com |
| 21:39.08 | Burgermeal | It adds people to a queue when they whisper you 'summon', and then it summons them :) |
| 21:39.24 | Burgermeal | vithos, I cant see it O.o |
| 21:39.32 | DarkElf | what is its name and what does it do? sounds like something arnold would say in a movie hehe |
| 21:40.07 | vithos | Burgermeal: i checked earlier today when you asked, and i checked again, it's there |
| 21:40.49 | DARKGuy | Burgermeal: COOL, I'm so gonna use it tonight, I was having a hard time summoning people last night :p |
| 21:41.05 | SunTsu | DarkElf: That was Stallone on Rambo3 :) "What's that?" "It's blue lights" "What does it do?" "It turns blue" |
| 21:41.21 | DARKGuy | pff xD |
| 21:41.31 | DarkElf | oh |
| 21:47.10 | CIA-41 | 03Chloe * r73244 10Tankadin/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:47.10 | CIA-41 | Tankadin: |
| 21:47.10 | CIA-41 | v1.1.0 |
| 21:47.10 | CIA-41 | --OnEvent function cleared up and removed some older code. |
| 21:47.10 | CIA-41 | --AD tracking now uses the CLEU. |
| 21:47.11 | CIA-41 | --TOC file revamped. |
| 21:47.13 | CIA-41 | --Fixed an error when pulling AD information for the first time. |
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| 21:52.18 | luxus | anyone know if a can make a macro with switching weapon shiv and switching back to the old weapon? |
| 21:52.30 | luxus | and how long it takes |
| 21:52.30 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: did you have any questions or comments or general feedback on my crazy ideas? |
| 21:52.37 | Dashkal | I wonder how unit frames will look in their rendering of a DKs runes/runic power... |
| 21:53.07 | Josh_Borke | now, sounds quite usable |
| 21:53.12 | Josh_Borke | s/w// |
| 21:53.26 | Josh_Borke | oh, actually |
| 21:53.42 | Josh_Borke | can a developer dispute a fork (i believe fork was the one that created a new project) |
| 21:54.07 | ckknight | a developer can always ask an admin to get involved and mediate a dispute |
| 21:54.16 | Dashkal | If the license was open source, I don't imagine the developer would have much they could do about it... |
| 21:54.20 | ckknight | and an objective judgement will be made |
| 21:54.40 | Vanduror | how does it work with multiple vcs? |
| 21:54.43 | Dashkal | Assuming of course the fork respects the original owner's copyright |
| 21:54.46 | ckknight | Dashkal: if there are naming issues, such as if you call one addon "FuBar" and the other "FuBar Enhanced", theres issues. |
| 21:54.57 | ckknight | since that's a trademark thing (sorta) rather than a copyright issue |
| 21:55.07 | Dashkal | ckknight: Are trademarks automatic (or do you consider them to be so for the your purposes)? |
| 21:55.08 | ckknight | Vanduror: you choose the vcs you want to use |
| 21:55.21 | Dashkal | s/the // |
| 21:55.42 | Dashkal | Fair enough if so, but you might wanna document that |
| 21:55.51 | ckknight | Dashkal: technically, we're not dealing with the USPTO or anything like that, it's more of a judgement call over whether something will be confused with the original or not |
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| 21:56.20 | ckknight | if there's a chance of confusion, especially in the cases of a fork, it's very likely the fork will be required to rename |
| 21:56.25 | Dashkal | nods |
| 21:56.43 | ckknight | if there's not a chance of confusion, then there's no reason to get in a huff about that |
| 21:56.58 | ckknight | and we will respect your copyright, that must be made clear |
| 21:57.22 | ckknight | if you have a proprietary addon and someone forks it or steals from it or something, it'll be shut down ASAP and that person will be given a warning |
| 21:57.22 | Vanduror | the 'option' of cloning is atm limited to a project for which the main author uses git then i take? |
| 21:57.28 | ckknight | Vanduror: nope. |
| 21:57.34 | Dashkal | Hostile GPL forks make things nice and nasty. |
| 21:58.12 | ckknight | if it's an open source project and someone forks it, the original owner can't dispute on copyright grounds, since the GPL will be respected |
| 21:58.30 | ckknight | if you didn't want forks, you shouldn't've made it open source |
| 21:59.02 | ckknight | if there's actual harmful tension, though, an admin may get involved one way or another (likely to calm everyone down, but not close the fork) |
| 21:59.08 | Dashkal | nods |
| 21:59.24 | Dashkal | I can think of some edge cases that would be pretty bad, but nothing that's at all likely to actually happen. |
| 21:59.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:00.00 | ckknight | sane developers should make clones first and then if there's issues, turn the clone into its own project (which can be done with the help of an admin) |
| 22:00.43 | elite3vil | sane developers.... interesting concept =P |
| 22:00.49 | Dashkal | snickers |
| 22:00.49 | Vanduror | :) |
| 22:02.09 | Ackis | what's the diff between a clone/fork? |
| 22:02.30 | Vanduror | one you can eat with |
| 22:02.34 | ckknight | Ackis: same project/different project |
| 22:02.35 | Matrix110| | (23:30:36) (@ckknight) so you have three kinds of forks, basically: (a) branches, which are on the same repo, requires explicit author consent. (b) clones, which are separate repositories, but under the same project. Requires an open-source license or explicit author permission. (c) forks, which are separate projects. Requires open-source license or explicit author permission as well as a name change. |
| 22:02.42 | elite3vil | Vanduror: Damn, you beat me to it. |
| 22:02.47 | Vanduror | ^^ |
| 22:02.48 | Ackis | I just tabbed in sorry |
| 22:02.49 | Ackis | :P |
| 22:03.18 | Vanduror | ckknight mind shedding some light on how the interaction between vcs' is ? |
| 22:03.42 | ckknight | Vanduror: interaction how? |
| 22:03.55 | Vanduror | well you said cloning isn't limited to git repos |
| 22:04.13 | ckknight | yea, basically for svn, it'll just be a cp -rf old new |
| 22:04.13 | Dashkal | How will "Open Source" be defined for purposes of forking? |
| 22:04.13 | ckknight | :-P |
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| 22:04.16 | Vanduror | heh ok |
| 22:04.33 | ckknight | Dashkal: falls under the open source definition as defined by Bruce Perens and hosted on the osi website. |
| 22:04.43 | Dashkal | osi, sweet. Nice and objective then. |
| 22:04.51 | ckknight | http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php |
| 22:04.56 | Vanduror | and there's also means to swap in between, say main repo is svn, cloner wants git? |
| 22:05.08 | Dashkal | One assumes all the "common" open source licenses will be in the dropdown? |
| 22:05.17 | ckknight | Vanduror: yea, but he'll basically get a blank repo and have to populate it himself. |
| 22:05.23 | ckknight | Dashkal: lemme get you the list. |
| 22:05.26 | Vanduror | ah k |
| 22:05.39 | ckknight | http://curseforge.com/projects/curse-test-addon/images/8622/ |
| 22:05.43 | ckknight | that's the list we'll use |
| 22:06.14 | NeoTron | what the heck is AGPLv3? |
| 22:06.18 | NeoTron | never heard of that one before |
| 22:06.23 | Dashkal | Nor I |
| 22:06.40 | ckknight | Affero GPL |
| 22:06.45 | ckknight | it's like GPL for websites. |
| 22:06.52 | NeoTron | yeah.. but what is "Affero"? |
| 22:06.52 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 22:07.12 | ckknight | if you use AGPL on your website, you have to have your website's source be available. |
| 22:07.16 | ckknight | examples: |
| 22:07.20 | ckknight | tecnocrat.net |
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| 22:07.24 | ckknight | technocrat.net* |
| 22:07.27 | ckknight | gitorious.org |
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| 22:07.39 | ckknight | gitorious is hosted on gitorious, kinda funny |
| 22:08.09 | Ackis | I finally installed betterblizoptions... very nice /curses blizzard |
| 22:09.48 | Ackis | so Ck, when you're done w/ curseforge and cart3 what's next on the shelf? |
| 22:10.07 | aestil | parrot |
| 22:10.15 | netcurse | making curse.com NOT suck |
| 22:10.40 | ckknight | yea, netcurse is right |
| 22:10.41 | Ackis | lol |
| 22:10.44 | ckknight | I get to rewrite curse.com |
| 22:10.47 | ckknight | woo! |
| 22:10.50 | Ackis | that sounds like fun |
| 22:10.55 | ckknight | it shall be as the phoenix |
| 22:11.06 | ckknight | burn it to the ground and watch as something greater arises from the ashes |
| 22:11.15 | Ackis | ohh can I help burn? |
| 22:11.18 | ckknight | in all seriousness, the new curse.com will suck far, far less |
| 22:11.33 | Vanduror | well that's not saying much ;) |
| 22:11.42 | Fisker- | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:12.17 | ckknight | it'll be more responsive, not totally barf all over itself on patch days, be a lot cleaner, and it'll go back to its roots in the addon community primarily |
| 22:12.32 | Ackis | how long til the curse.com mods are converted over to curseforge? |
| 22:12.38 | ckknight | Ackis: a week? |
| 22:12.41 | ckknight | give or take. |
| 22:12.41 | NivFreak | curseforge? |
| 22:12.44 | Ackis | nice |
| 22:12.47 | digmouse | I just want that wikia gets right |
| 22:12.49 | ckknight | actually, I think it's monday after next. |
| 22:12.57 | Vanduror | when's hg in the planning ? |
| 22:13.00 | Vanduror | before that? |
| 22:13.04 | Vanduror | or somewhere in the future |
| 22:13.06 | ckknight | Vanduror: hoping I can do it this weekend. |
| 22:13.12 | Vanduror | ah cool |
| 22:13.18 | NivFreak | so wow.curse.com goes away? |
| 22:13.22 | ckknight | the new curse.com is pushing for being strongly addon-centric with extra things being auxilliary |
| 22:13.32 | netcurse | nono Vanduror. |
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| 22:13.38 | ckknight | NivFreak: no, it'll stay. that's for users. curseforge is for devs and power users. |
| 22:13.53 | NivFreak | will updaters start pulling from curseforge instead? |
| 22:13.58 | NivFreak | (in theory) |
| 22:14.31 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: quite doubtful |
| 22:14.43 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: it should pull from curse if it's for users |
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| 22:15.06 | ckknight | NivFreak: it should pull from curse, curseforge would be bad to pull from, imho |
| 22:15.25 | ckknight | so you know, Kolie is rewriting the Curse Client. It will be far pimper than what the current client is. |
| 22:15.29 | NivFreak | curseforge is roughly the same as files? |
| 22:15.38 | NivFreak | ckknight: will it run on my mac? :P |
| 22:15.39 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: yes |
| 22:15.42 | Kolie | what? |
| 22:16.07 | chivato | Hey quick question for anyone who can boot people off: I was on Ganders and my comp restarted, and I didn't get disconnected from the IRC, so it won't let me sign back in as Ganders |
| 22:16.10 | Kolie | Hi. yea im rewriting that thing for multiplatform. |
| 22:16.19 | chivato | can someone boot Ganders off so I can sign in with that name? |
| 22:16.23 | Dashkal | Will the Curse Client be _able_ to nab the current alpha to help us help test each other's stuff? |
| 22:16.31 | ckknight | yea, it will. |
| 22:16.40 | Ackis | including dry-codes?!? |
| 22:16.41 | ckknight | but not by default. |
| 22:16.41 | Dashkal | Can you make that nice and difficult to get at? :p |
| 22:16.42 | netcurse | You will be able to say actually per addon if you wants alpha/betas etc. |
| 22:16.46 | ckknight | yep, Ackis |
| 22:16.57 | Ackis | lol was a bit of a joke for Dashkal |
| 22:16.57 | NivFreak | Kolie: I might actually look at it then L:) |
| 22:17.00 | Kolie | default will be the release build. |
| 22:17.04 | Dashkal | snickers |
| 22:17.11 | chivato | slaps Ganders around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:17.15 | Kolie | 11•12Dashkal11• Ive seen people vmware it :) |
| 22:17.16 | Dashkal | I haven't been able to +1 you in awhile :p |
| 22:17.23 | NivFreak | ack |
| 22:17.24 | NivFreak | color |
| 22:17.25 | Ackis | lol i'm off work again /sadface |
| 22:17.27 | SunTsu | chivato: Just ghost it at nickserv |
| 22:17.40 | Kolie | Dashkal, whos being +1'd now? |
| 22:17.42 | SunTsu | chivato: /msg NickServ ghost <nick> <password> |
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| 22:18.02 | chivato | what would the <password> be? |
| 22:18.16 | Kolie | chivato, whatever u registered the nick with |
| 22:18.17 | ckknight | your password. |
| 22:18.17 | SunTsu | chivato: The one you registered with NickServ |
| 22:18.23 | Ackis | Kolie, if you do a search fish for "dry-code" yo'll see what Dashkal means by +1 with me |
| 22:18.26 | chivato | oh |
| 22:18.31 | chivato | i forgot i made a password |
| 22:18.32 | chivato | apparently |
| 22:18.55 | chivato | there we go |
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| 22:19.17 | ckknight | oh yea, if you wanna help beta-test curseforge, feel free to join #curseforge |
| 22:19.27 | Vanduror | could have just changed your nick ganders ;p |
| 22:19.29 | Dashkal | mmm, I need to have a good look at Ace's module support... Might be useful, might be overkill. Needs investigation |
| 22:19.30 | Kolie | And if you wanna beta test the curse client check out testclient.curse.com |
| 22:19.48 | Ackis | ckknight: I've been playing around with it, but is there someplace where there's a big faq/how-to for it? |
| 22:20.02 | ckknight | Ackis: I believe Kaelten told me he was gonna write the knowledge base this weekend. |
| 22:20.05 | aestil | i'd like to beta test parrot 2.0 |
| 22:20.21 | aestil | with a power aura type functionality built in. |
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| 22:20.47 | Ackis | nice that would help a lot... save me from asking you questions which you've answered a million times already |
| 22:21.10 | ckknight | Ackis: yea, yea |
| 22:21.51 | SunTsu | Some how this isn't my day with autobar. Now my questitem button is missing... |
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| 22:27.06 | VonhintenHOME` | was cartographer changed so it only shows the current waypoint instead of all the waypoints? |
| 22:27.16 | ckknight | I drank too much Rockstar |
| 22:27.16 | VonhintenHOME` | because that sucks, if it was |
| 22:27.26 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: I don't remember changing it |
| 22:27.33 | Arrowmaster | oh boo |
| 22:27.44 | VonhintenHOME` | That's what it's doing for me |
| 22:28.01 | Arrowmaster | i just checked my NIN ghosts deluxe edition that came the other day and i got number 1877/2500 |
| 22:28.08 | Arrowmaster | damn high number |
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| 22:29.36 | Ackis | it's ok i still want to fuck you like an animal |
| 22:30.13 | Ackis | see what I did there? :P |
| 22:30.24 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:30.34 | VonhintenHOME` | yep, bad jokes are not lost on me |
| 22:31.17 | NeoTron | so cartographer uses a libstubbed lib for guild positions right? |
| 22:31.22 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:31.25 | ckknight | both 2 and 3 |
| 22:31.27 | NeoTron | any other addons using it? |
| 22:31.36 | ckknight | I think someone was going to |
| 22:31.43 | ckknight | don't know if they did or not |
| 22:31.44 | NeoTron | I want ppl in the guild to use it. it's handy |
| 22:31.51 | ckknight | I agree |
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| 22:32.05 | NeoTron | maybe there's room for a minimalistic one one that only does that |
| 22:32.26 | ckknight | probably is room. |
| 22:32.31 | NeoTron | in theory I guess it's enough if ppl run the lib standalone for it to benefit me |
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| 22:33.24 | VonhintenHOME` | ckk, does that waypoint behavior happen to you? |
| 22:33.38 | ckknight | wouldn't know, haven't played wow in a while. |
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| 22:36.38 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: HandyNotes_Guild |
| 22:36.41 | Stanzilla | err |
| 22:36.42 | Stanzilla | NeoTron: |
| 22:36.43 | Stanzilla | sry |
| 22:37.02 | hypetech | anybody have a screenie of what zimclock looks like? |
| 22:37.04 | NeoTron | two drunk men in Sweden were having a contest who could hang on to the outside of a balkony the longest |
| 22:37.06 | Xelopheris | http://kotaku.com/387830/this-hands+free-super-mario-world-level-plays-sweet-sweet-music O_o |
| 22:37.45 | NeoTron | unfortunately the result of the content is unknown because the balkony wasn't sturdy enough to hold both men and it broke and they both fell... 4 floors |
| 22:37.55 | hypetech | whoa wtf. XPerl on the SVN? o.0 |
| 22:38.07 | hypetech | how long has that been there? >.> |
| 22:38.16 | NeoTron | hypetech: quite a while |
| 22:38.20 | hypetech | hmm |
| 22:38.27 | NeoTron | Stanzilla: hmm ok |
| 22:39.05 | Xelopheris | hypetech: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8458-zimClock.html screeny on the page |
| 22:39.22 | Ganders | is there a way to completely remove a table value from a table? |
| 22:39.24 | hypetech | Xelopheris: ty |
| 22:39.28 | Ganders | like table.remove |
| 22:39.30 | aestil | wouldn't it be awesome to have a parrot with a power aura type functionaility? |
| 22:39.36 | Ganders | except without using a number? |
| 22:39.48 | ckknight | aestil: asking over and over won't get me to do it |
| 22:40.23 | Ganders | or do I need to do an ipairs to get the pos of the value I want to remove? |
| 22:40.31 | Ganders | just figured there'd be an easier way |
| 22:40.57 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 22:41.12 | NivFreak | so blizzard is basically killing off warrior tanks in the WOLK eh? |
| 22:41.24 | Peoii | not really |
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| 22:41.43 | NivFreak | you'll bring feral druids for physical dmg fights |
| 22:41.44 | NeoTron | Ganders: you mean remove an entry from a table based on the value rather than the key? |
| 22:41.48 | NivFreak | death knights for magic dmg fights |
| 22:41.51 | NivFreak | paladins for AoE tanking |
| 22:41.58 | NeoTron | NivFreak: about time |
| 22:41.58 | NivFreak | and why the fuck would you bring a warrior? |
| 22:42.00 | Peoii | warriors for mix fights |
| 22:42.16 | Peoii | which there are a lot of ;) |
| 22:42.17 | dylanm | Uh, why do people bring warriors now? |
| 22:42.21 | NivFreak | yea, but what do your prot warrior do when he's not tanking? |
| 22:42.21 | NeoTron | you bring warriors so they can give 4% more dps to the physical dpsers |
| 22:42.37 | NeoTron | dylanm: we don't have deathknights yet |
| 22:42.53 | NivFreak | warriors are better MTs still |
| 22:42.54 | Ganders | NeoTron: yes |
| 22:42.56 | aestil | ckknight: liez |
| 22:42.59 | NivFreak | but it sounds like that won't be true after the expansion |
| 22:43.04 | ckknight | truth |
| 22:43.28 | Ganders | in a ["key"] = value table |
| 22:43.31 | Ganders | i know the "key" |
| 22:43.32 | NeoTron | Ganders: just do a for k,v in pairs(tbl) do if v == toremove then tbl[k]=nil end end |
| 22:43.33 | Ganders | but not its position |
| 22:43.37 | Ganders | ok |
| 22:43.40 | Ganders | that's what I figured |
| 22:43.44 | NeoTron | or ipairs |
| 22:43.52 | Ganders | just curious to see if there was a simpler way |
| 22:44.10 | dylanm | You could store the key in the value somehow and it would be totally crazy. |
| 22:45.30 | NeoTron | seems like overkill |
| 22:45.51 | dylanm | Well yeah. I tried to make that clear :p |
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| 22:47.29 | CIA-41 | 03ananhaid * r73245 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua: |
| 22:47.29 | CIA-41 | BigWigs_VashjFFA: |
| 22:47.29 | CIA-41 | - zhCN update. |
| 22:47.34 | aestil | ckknight: sex? |
| 22:47.43 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 22:48.41 | JJSheets | proper response is: Yes, please! |
| 22:48.46 | Ackis | ^ |
| 22:49.03 | ckknight | depends what kind |
| 22:49.17 | aestil | buttsecks? you catch! |
| 22:49.21 | JJSheets | true. But the negotiations can take place after. :p |
| 22:49.26 | JJSheets | heh |
| 22:49.54 | NeoTron | so we market ourself as mature guild whjen we look for recruits |
| 22:50.17 | NeoTron | we typically are... except the one night where we had a potential recruit on our vent and it basically devolved in little better than poop jokes |
| 22:50.17 | JJSheets | then discuss buttsecks in guild chat...? |
| 22:50.22 | NeoTron | it was bizarre |
| 22:50.26 | JJSheets | lol |
| 22:50.37 | NeoTron | we usually go more with sheep, kangeroos or moose sex |
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| 22:50.43 | NeoTron | because we have an australian and a canadian |
| 22:50.49 | JJSheets | hah |
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| 22:51.05 | Ackis | lol |
| 22:51.08 | Ackis | eh? |
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| 22:51.32 | NeoTron | we make fun of the australian by asking if he likes sheep or prefer kangeroos |
| 22:51.38 | NeoTron | you know, mature stuff |
| 22:51.43 | JJSheets | of course. |
| 22:52.03 | NeoTron | one time in Hyjal someone mentioned dick icecream (I have no idea how it got theer, but it did) |
| 22:52.11 | JJSheets | If you have any midwest americans, ask them if they're pumpkin fuckers. :p |
| 22:52.11 | NeoTron | and I made a comment like "extra chunky?" |
| 22:52.36 | JJSheets | but pronounce pumpkin, Pung-kin. |
| 22:52.37 | NeoTron | and now "extra chunky" is a going joke which I'm sure newer member simply don't get the fun off. at the time thoguh we almost wiped on the trash |
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| 22:53.46 | JJSheets | On Topic... is CandyBar the only Bar library on wowace, or are there others? |
| 22:53.53 | Ackis | we had a pedophile joke night once... it was disturbing to say the least |
| 22:53.58 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm. wonder if it was lightheaded that changed, and not cartographer |
| 22:53.59 | Ackis | JJsheets: Libbars |
| 22:54.03 | Ganders | you can use ipairs on a key=value table right? |
| 22:54.10 | VonhintenHOME` | Waypoint.MapDB only has one entry |
| 22:54.21 | cladhaire | VonhintenHOME`: LightHeaded didn't change |
| 22:54.22 | cladhaire | whats the problem |
| 22:54.25 | dylanm | Ganders: Nope. |
| 22:54.28 | Ganders | ah |
| 22:54.31 | Ganders | that explains why it's not working |
| 22:54.32 | NeoTron | Ganders: if it's a [1] = ..., [2] = ... |
| 22:54.35 | JJSheets | Ackis, it's on the SVN? |
| 22:54.38 | Ganders | damn |
| 22:54.40 | dylanm | JJSheets: Branches. |
| 22:54.44 | JJSheets | ah. |
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| 22:54.54 | JJSheets | thanks. |
| 22:54.55 | NeoTron | I assume the i stands for indexed or integer (I have no clue, pure guess) |
| 22:54.56 | Ganders | well how do i get a value's position in the table then? |
| 22:55.00 | NeoTron | but for key=val you use pairs |
| 22:55.01 | dylanm | Ganders: pairs will work with either, so I don't think it's a big deal. |
| 22:55.04 | Ganders | I have ["event"] = function, |
| 22:55.05 | NeoTron | there is no position |
| 22:55.09 | NeoTron | it's unordered |
| 22:55.11 | NeoTron | or hash ordered |
| 22:55.12 | dylanm | ipairs buys you an order. |
| 22:55.16 | VonhintenHOME` | clad, when I try to track multiple waypoints by clicking coord links in Lightheaded, cartographer only shows the current waypoint on the map |
| 22:55.16 | Ganders | well then |
| 22:55.24 | dylanm | On your suitably organized tables. |
| 22:55.24 | Ganders | how do I use table.remove on a table like that then? |
| 22:55.30 | NeoTron | you don't |
| 22:55.34 | NeoTron | afaik? |
| 22:55.41 | cladhaire | VonhintenHOME`: that's not LightHeaded.. its whatever addon is handling your waypoints |
| 22:55.42 | Ganders | is there anyway to completely remove the key and it's value? |
| 22:55.46 | NeoTron | yes |
| 22:55.51 | NeoTron | tbl[key] = nil |
| 22:55.51 | Ganders | how? |
| 22:55.53 | dylanm | table[value] = nil |
| 22:55.59 | Ganders | but the key remains then doesn't it? |
| 22:56.03 | JJSheets | nope. |
| 22:56.04 | dylanm | No. |
| 22:56.04 | Ganders | or does it wipe the key too? |
| 22:56.06 | Ganders | ah |
| 22:56.08 | Ganders | ok then |
| 22:56.09 | Ganders | thanks |
| 22:56.26 | NeoTron | lua> local tbl = { ['hello'] = 'world' } tbl.hello = nil tbl |
| 22:56.27 | lua_bot | NeoTron: luabot:1: '=' expected near '<eof>' |
| 22:56.34 | JJSheets | heheh |
| 22:56.37 | NeoTron | err |
| 22:57.12 | NeoTron | whatever you get the point :P |
| 22:57.35 | NeoTron | lua> local tbl = { ['hello'] = 'world' } tbl.hello = nil |
| 22:57.35 | lua_bot | NeoTron: No output |
| 22:57.44 | NeoTron | I wonder |
| 22:57.47 | NeoTron | lua> local tbl = { ['hello'] = 'world' } tbl.hello = nil return tbl |
| 22:57.48 | lua_bot | NeoTron: table: 0x6408c0 |
| 22:57.50 | NeoTron | lol |
| 22:57.51 | NeoTron | ok nm |
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| 22:58.29 | Ganders | ya i got it ={ |
| 22:58.31 | Ganders | =P |
| 22:58.32 | Ganders | it works btw |
| 22:58.33 | Ganders | thanks |
| 22:58.49 | Ganders | another question |
| 22:58.54 | Ganders | more of an opinion question though |
| 22:59.02 | JJSheets | lua> local tbl = { ['hello'] = 'world' } tbl.hello = nil local list = '' for k,v in pairs(tbl) do list = list..k.." = "..v.." " end return list |
| 22:59.02 | lua_bot | JJSheets: No output |
| 22:59.08 | JJSheets | bah. |
| 22:59.20 | Ganders | is it even worth using LibStub for a library that you only need to reference once? |
| 22:59.29 | Ganders | my library i'm using |
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| 22:59.37 | Ganders | all you need to do is lib:Embed(myFrame) |
| 22:59.43 | Ganders | then it gets the functions etc. |
| 22:59.43 | dylanm | How else are you going to acquire it? |
| 22:59.48 | Ganders | a global |
| 22:59.59 | Ganders | since you only need to call it one time |
| 23:00.26 | Ganders | using a global function would be easier than calling it via LibStub I think |
| 23:00.38 | dylanm | What do you think the point of LibStub is |
| 23:00.39 | Ganders | lib:Embed vs. LibStub:GetLibrary("lib"):Embed |
| 23:00.44 | VonhintenHOME` | Nevermind, I'm chasing a ghost or something... I clicked on the coords in lightheaded, but I guess they didn't register with the waypoint queue... |
| 23:00.50 | VonhintenHOME` | ignore me |
| 23:00.53 | Xinhuan | i find libstub pretty frivoulous |
| 23:01.00 | Xinhuan | any library i write won't use it |
| 23:01.13 | Xinhuan | it'll just be a single global variable, and it can upgrade itself fine |
| 23:01.30 | cladhaire | grats? |
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| 23:01.56 | ckknight | Xinhuan: it is not the law that matter but our obedience to it ;-) |
| 23:02.03 | ckknight | matters* |
| 23:02.31 | Xinhuan | it doesn't really matter honestly |
| 23:03.03 | ckknight | true, I just do it cause all the cool kids are doing it |
| 23:03.14 | Ganders | heh |
| 23:03.46 | JJSheets | is a cool kid. |
| 23:03.53 | ckknight | I just like that it provides a consistent interface for libraries, that's all |
| 23:03.59 | Dashkal | I'm gonna use it simply so I don't have to learn how to make my libs self-upgrading. |
| 23:04.06 | dylanm | Ganders: This is a library you're writing? |
| 23:04.19 | Ganders | yes |
| 23:04.21 | Xinhuan | actually self upgrading libs doesn't magically upgrade itself Dashkal |
| 23:04.25 | Xinhuan | you have to upgrade them |
| 23:04.29 | Ganders | one sec |
| 23:04.59 | Dashkal | self-upgrading in the sense of two different addons using different versions |
| 23:05.07 | Ganders | http://code.google.com/p/ninjas-n-things/source/browse/trunk/!RCE/RCE.lua |
| 23:05.09 | dylanm | I misunderstood you then. |
| 23:05.17 | NeoTron | the main reason is to avoid having multiple instances when the library is embedded |
| 23:05.24 | Xinhuan | yeah, i'm saying your lib must have internal code to upgrade itself |
| 23:05.32 | Xinhuan | libstub doesn't do it for you automagically |
| 23:05.36 | dylanm | Why is this named with a ! |
| 23:05.39 | Dashkal | I thought libstub automated that based on the version numbers it was fed |
| 23:05.45 | Ganders | dlyanm: it only has one function that the person using it needs to call |
| 23:05.49 | Xinhuan | all it does is compare the version number, and either return nil, or a table |
| 23:06.07 | Dashkal | bleh, must read its source (was gonna have to anyway to use it) |
| 23:06.13 | Ganders | dlyanm: which would be a lot easier to just use a global function i think |
| 23:06.40 | Xinhuan | lots of written libs don't upgrade itself properly |
| 23:06.52 | Xinhuan | ends up with memory leaks |
| 23:07.40 | Dashkal | Then again, unless it's a bugfix revision which should replace its earlier version, a real upgrade to the thing probably should cause a second instance in memory. So the library behaves exactly as expected by the code using it. |
| 23:08.08 | Xinhuan | no, you're not getting it ;p |
| 23:08.20 | aestil | am i the only person who uses aloft, or rather, wishes i could still use aloft? |
| 23:08.40 | Xinhuan | if addons use libA, and carries some reference to LibA, and then liba upgrades itself, then all addons that use liba must null their reference to libA |
| 23:08.50 | Xinhuan | and reembed the new functions |
| 23:09.00 | Xinhuan | that got upgraded |
| 23:09.01 | Dashkal | Apparently not. But I'm wondering if I should actually use anything, or just code it to be embedded only (not even a TOC) |
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| 23:09.19 | Xinhuan | it gets tricky esp if the lib is designed to have registries and stuff that you have to carry over |
| 23:09.49 | Dashkal | One thing that irks me about addons is that there is no addon-private scope. Shared by different files in the same addon but invisible to others. |
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| 23:10.42 | Xinhuan | so suppuse ganders lets addons registers for some combatlog event in his lib |
| 23:10.49 | Xinhuan | but his lib gets upgraded by a newer version of itself in another addon |
| 23:11.07 | Xinhuan | the new upgrade version must retain the registered events |
| 23:11.17 | Xinhuan | and get rid of the old versions |
| 23:11.39 | Allara_ | Dashkal: yeah that's more of a Lua problem then anything though. annoys me also |
| 23:12.18 | Dashkal | Is there anyway way to figure out which actual addon you're executing in? |
| 23:12.21 | ckknight | Dashkal: yea, I wish there was better namespacing in lua |
| 23:12.31 | ckknight | Dashkal: you can check debugstack(), but that's a hack. |
| 23:13.02 | Dashkal | hmm, something for the suggestions forum... |
| 23:13.23 | Dashkal | If there was an api call GetCurrentAddon() that returned the addon name or nil for /script, that would be enough to make it work |
| 23:13.54 | Allara_ | that'd probably be something the lua runtime would have to support, not really a wow api call |
| 23:14.29 | Allara_ | or they'd at least have to put a pretty big hack into the runtime to support it |
| 23:14.30 | Dashkal | They do it somehow, else how would profiling work at all? |
| 23:15.12 | Allara_ | I'm not privvy to the internals, but I'd think knowing memory usage is different from knowing your execution context at any given moment |
| 23:15.26 | Allara_ | granted, the cpu profiling is very intrusive like that, but again it's doing something else (and not performant at all) |
| 23:15.27 | Dashkal | CPU profiling requires execution context |
| 23:15.41 | Dashkal | so it _can_ be tracked. |
| 23:15.49 | JJSheets | CPU profiling is expensive and turned off by default. |
| 23:15.50 | Dashkal | Not necessarally without a major hack on their end |
| 23:15.51 | Allara_ | well anything /can/ be tracked |
| 23:16.05 | Dashkal | JJSheets: I'm talking about a single-shot API call that does whatever check CPU profiling does all the time |
| 23:16.17 | Dashkal | "Where am I?" |
| 23:16.20 | Allara_ | Does wow already run a customized lua runtime? |
| 23:16.23 | JJSheets | I know. but tracking that data is expenssive. |
| 23:16.30 | Dashkal | Then use that result as a key for some table, and *poof* soft addon-private scope |
| 23:16.58 | Dashkal | More importany, and addon-private scope that works for an embeeded lib |
| 23:17.08 | Dashkal | More import any, and addon-private scope that works for an embedded lib |
| 23:17.12 | Dashkal | bah, cannot type |
| 23:17.31 | Dashkal | (Since your own code obviously always knows where it is) |
| 23:17.39 | Allara_ | you can get reasonably close to namespacing using self: etc. |
| 23:20.02 | Broesel01 | can anyone please help with svp-problems and upload? |
| 23:20.22 | aestil | Antiarc: thanks for coming. he got better once we got past the whole 'surivability' part of the instance. |
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| 23:24.09 | Antiarc | Hehe, you're welcome |
| 23:24.16 | Antiarc | I just have to work twice as hard now! I hope you're happy! :P |
| 23:25.05 | CIA-41 | 03antiarc * r73246 10Chatter/Modules/PlayerNames.lua: Chatter: Don't try to get the guild roster if we aren't in a guild. |
| 23:25.11 | Xinhuan | Ganders, i just took a look at the code |
| 23:25.23 | Xinhuan | looks fine, but it needs a upgrade path at the end of the lib |
| 23:25.50 | Ganders | cool, how do I do that? |
| 23:26.25 | Xinhuan | you add this at the end of the file |
| 23:26.54 | dylanm | You have to upgrade the guys in the embeds table. Think about it. |
| 23:26.58 | Xinhuan | for target in pairs(lib.embeds) do lib:Embed(target) end |
| 23:27.06 | dylanm | Ooh Xinhuan with the solution. |
| 23:27.27 | Xinhuan | like most lib authors forget this step, or does it incompletely |
| 23:27.29 | dylanm | Also, why the exclamation mark. Why you wanna be that guy. |
| 23:27.46 | Ganders | oh ya sorry about that |
| 23:28.04 | Ganders | but wouldn't it return an error if the addon using it tried to use :Embed before the addon loaded? |
| 23:28.09 | Ganders | if you were using it externally? |
| 23:28.27 | Xinhuan | no because lib.embeds[] key entries only exists for addons that already embedded it |
| 23:28.39 | dylanm | OptionalDeps. |
| 23:28.40 | Xinhuan | you're just reassigning the new libs' fcuntions to overwrite the old ones |
| 23:28.57 | Xinhuan | then the old ones gets unreferences and gets trashed into GC |
| 23:29.17 | Xinhuan | at the top of the file, for consistency, you should also add at line 11 |
| 23:29.27 | Xinhuan | lib.frame:UnregisterAllEvents() |
| 23:29.39 | Xinhuan | lib.frame:SetScript("OnEvent", nil) |
| 23:29.48 | Xinhuan | to remove the old references/events |
| 23:30.15 | Xinhuan | because you culd be reusing an existing frame |
| 23:30.26 | Xinhuan | and the old code may have registered for more |
| 23:30.30 | Xinhuan | than the latest version |
| 23:30.33 | dylanm | I like your Gcode's name there. |
| 23:31.02 | Ganders | heh thanks |
| 23:31.23 | Xinhuan | as a lib, you also need to add code |
| 23:31.30 | Xinhuan | so that when an addon disables itself |
| 23:31.45 | dylanm | Oh I forgot about that convention. |
| 23:31.45 | Xinhuan | you should auto disable/unregister all registered events |
| 23:31.48 | Xinhuan | from that addon |
| 23:32.13 | Xinhuan | this means you need to copy one of those code in an existing lib, with :OnEmbedDisable() in it |
| 23:32.24 | Xinhuan | should be fairly easy to understand how it works |
| 23:34.04 | Ganders | ok so using mine as an example |
| 23:34.13 | Ganders | i would go through the addons table |
| 23:34.23 | Ganders | and use :UnregisterCombatEvent for each key? |
| 23:34.29 | Xinhuan | no, just for one addon |
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| 23:34.43 | Xinhuan | the lib should perform lib:UnregisterAllCombatEvents() |
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| 23:34.50 | Xinhuan | on my addon, if i disable my own addon |
| 23:35.09 | CIA-41 | 03kuja * r73247 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFuLocale-deDE.lua: FuBar_LocationFu: deDE update |
| 23:35.12 | Xinhuan | it should be automatic, meaning i shouldn't have to call it in my OnDisable() |
| 23:35.25 | Xinhuan | take a look an an existing ace3 lib |
| 23:35.32 | Xinhuan | look near the end of the file |
| 23:36.21 | Xinhuan | try AceEvent-3.0 |
| 23:36.28 | Xinhuan | since its the most similar |
| 23:36.48 | Ganders | ah i see |
| 23:36.55 | Xinhuan | the :OnEmbedDisable() function is basically called by the addon framework |
| 23:36.55 | Ganders | so when is :OnEmbedDisable called? |
| 23:37.00 | Ganders | oh ok |
| 23:37.04 | Xinhuan | when the addon performs addon:Disable() |
| 23:37.22 | Xinhuan | ace3 in this case, will iterate thru every library that is embedded, and call :OnEmbedDisable() |
| 23:37.49 | CIA-41 | 03antiarc * r73248 10Chatter/Modules/LinkHover.lua: Chatter: Hook all frames for LinkHover, not just visible ones. |
| 23:37.55 | Xinhuan | i'm assuming you intend it to be usable in ace3 addons that is |
| 23:38.01 | Xinhuan | or rock addons |
| 23:38.18 | Ganders | well yes |
| 23:38.33 | Ganders | do i need to add anything to make it ace3 or rock compatible? |
| 23:38.46 | Xinhuan | yes, it has to use libstub ;p |
| 23:38.56 | Ganders | all right |
| 23:38.59 | Ganders | it does that already =) |
| 23:39.16 | Ganders | ok one sec i'm gonna commit it real fast |
| 23:39.28 | Xinhuan | when you package your lib, you need to include a hardcopy of libstub.lua |
| 23:39.35 | Xinhuan | usually in a parent folder |
| 23:40.32 | Ganders | updated version |
| 23:40.33 | Ganders | http://code.google.com/p/ninjas-n-things/source/browse/trunk/!RCE/RCE.lua |
| 23:40.40 | Ganders | with all the stuff you told me to change |
| 23:40.44 | Ganders | and i'll fix the ! soon too |
| 23:41.22 | dylanm | Ganders: Oh it's not a big deal I just wanted to make sure that you didn't have funny ideas about the load order. |
| 23:43.25 | Xinhuan | you just need to take note of libstub.lua embedding stuff |
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| 23:46.24 | JCinDE | Anyone know of a FuBar mail plugin other than MailFu? That one seems to generate false positive "got mail" events. |
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| 23:47.35 | dylanm | As far as I know that's the server being wonky. |
| 23:48.18 | JCinDE | Nah it's the UPDATE_PENDING_MAIL event firing for other reasons and the SpecialEventsMail lib not being able to handle them properly. |
| 23:48.18 | hubar[TD] | hi, does anyone know what the latest version of assessment is? |
| 23:48.54 | CIA-41 | 03kuja * r73249 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_ExperienceFu: deDE update |
| 23:48.59 | Ganders | Xinhuan: Just one more question |
| 23:49.12 | Ganders | I'm still kind of confused about the Embedding thing |
| 23:49.37 | Ganders | if an addon that uses my lib tries to call the :Embed function before my lib loads, wouldn't that throw out an error? |
| 23:49.39 | hubar[TD] | It is strange that the version I got from wowace webpage (files.wowace.com) is 63*** |
| 23:49.47 | dylanm | JCinDE: Does it not handle... zoning and such well? |
| 23:50.01 | hubar[TD] | But in game , the assessment about tells me the version is 54xxx |
| 23:50.02 | JCinDE | Zoning is fine |
| 23:50.17 | dylanm | I didn't know that it used SEM... I shudder to look at that stuff. |
| 23:50.17 | vhaarr | hubar[TD]: localization updates |
| 23:50.18 | Xinhuan | Ganders, any addon using your lib, must ensure your lib is already loaded first before trying to call :Embed() |
| 23:50.32 | Ganders | how does it do that? |
| 23:50.38 | Xinhuan | in an EMBEDDED library situation, the addon just loads your lib in the TOC file before the addon itself |
| 23:50.43 | Ganders | right |
| 23:50.48 | Ganders | I understand that |
| 23:50.55 | Ganders | but if it were to be used externally |
| 23:51.00 | Ganders | and the lib was loaded as its own addon |
| 23:51.02 | hubar[TD] | vharr: hmm so you think the 54*** version should work? |
| 23:51.06 | Xinhuan | in a DISEMBEDDED library situation, the addon adds your library in OptDeps |
| 23:51.14 | Xinhuan | so wow will load the lib as an optdep addon |
| 23:51.18 | JCinDE | When someone sends you mail with an attachment it fires your UPDATE_PENDING_MAIL. Then a frame or two later it fires the event again when the game determines your mail has to be x-rayed first. |
| 23:51.18 | Xinhuan | before the addon loads |
| 23:51.21 | Ganders | ohhh |
| 23:51.23 | Ganders | ok |
| 23:51.26 | Ganders | didn't know that |
| 23:51.29 | Ganders | thanks =) |
| 23:51.34 | Xinhuan | take a look at existing addons |
| 23:51.37 | Xinhuan | and see how it works |
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| 23:51.49 | dylanm | JCinDE: Oh the hour delay? |
| 23:51.51 | Ganders | ok and branching off that |
| 23:51.53 | JCinDE | Yeah |
| 23:51.54 | Xinhuan | maybe even download the 2 zips that wowace packages |
| 23:52.03 | Ganders | in the pairs loop you told me to put in at the end of the file |
| 23:52.06 | dylanm | I thought that's what it did. How are you supposed to account for that though? |
| 23:52.06 | JCinDE | So it fires the event twice then again an hour later when you actually get the mail. |
| 23:52.12 | Ganders | where it loops through the lib.embed |
| 23:52.14 | dylanm | Oh three times in total. |
| 23:52.24 | dylanm | And the second one is "whoops"? |
| 23:52.28 | Ganders | That's what I'm not understanding |
| 23:52.29 | JCinDE | Not exactly. |
| 23:52.31 | Xinhuan | that table should contain only addons that have already embedded your lib |
| 23:52.36 | Ganders | right |
| 23:52.38 | Xinhuan | you're just reembedding all of them |
| 23:52.41 | Ganders | ok |
| 23:52.45 | Ganders | why though? |
| 23:52.54 | JCinDE | with no mods at all if someone sends you an item you'll see your default Mail icon appear briefly and then vanish. It's apparently by design. |
| 23:52.55 | Xinhuan | so that if your r100 of your lib is newer, and you corrected a logic error in one of the functions |
| 23:53.02 | Xinhuan | your newer function overwrites the older function |
| 23:53.11 | Xinhuan | of the same name |
| 23:53.13 | Ganders | ahh |
| 23:53.15 | Ganders | makes sense |
| 23:53.34 | Xinhuan | and the older function gets thrown to GC as soon as no addon or your lib retains a reference to it |
| 23:53.42 | Xinhuan | GC = garbage collection |
| 23:54.00 | JCinDE | So what I'm looking for is a FuBar mail plugin that doesn't try to track your inbox count. Instead one that just shows the icon or doesn't...pretty much like the built-in mail button but one we can put on FuBar instead. |
| 23:54.06 | Xinhuan | if lib upgrading isn't done, then you end up with different addons referencing different functions |
| 23:54.15 | Xinhuan | in a multiple embedded scenerio |
| 23:54.17 | JCinDE | If there isn't one I'll just write it. |
| 23:54.22 | Ganders | if the lib is being loaded seperately then should I even worry about different versions? |
| 23:54.28 | Ganders | since all addons using it are loading the same one |
| 23:54.28 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:54.43 | Xinhuan | because a user can still choose to install ONE addon with libraries embedded |
| 23:54.55 | Ganders | ahhh right |
| 23:55.24 | dylanm | JCinDE: Right. You're going to have to give up attempts at counting I guess? |
| 23:55.37 | dylanm | Because what the FrameXML does is check HasNewMail(). |
| 23:55.43 | JCinDE | Yeah it seems that way. |
| 23:55.57 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r73250 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/modules.xml: |
| 23:55.57 | CIA-41 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 23:55.57 | CIA-41 | - Add AutoBar to modules |
| 23:56.04 | dylanm | That's all I can see in the way of logic. |
| 23:56.05 | JCinDE | Yeah FrameXML just checks HasNewMail when the event fires and shows the icon if 1 and hides it if nil. |
| 23:56.26 | Xinhuan | the funny thing is the event doesn't fire consistently |
| 23:56.34 | Xinhuan | so if you used a mail addon to Open All, and walk away |
| 23:56.38 | JCinDE | I hacked MailFu to add the LatestThreeSenders to the tooltip...but the false positives bug me. hehe |
| 23:56.42 | Xinhuan | it doesn't fire the "all read" event |
| 23:56.45 | dylanm | Xinhuan: See that's what I thought he was complaining about. |
| 23:57.32 | JCinDE | Yeah I think using the event was a bit of a hack to try and get mail tracking to work. |
| 23:57.36 | CIA-41 | 03tsigo * r73251 10RaidCooldowns_Display/ (RaidCooldowns_Display.lua RaidCooldowns_Display.toc): RaidCooldowns_Display: Color cooldown bars using class colors. |
| 23:57.55 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: Does the Quest-Button still work for you? |
| 23:57.58 | JCinDE | I wonder if Tekkub is working on it.. |
| 23:58.08 | dylanm | Tekkub? |
| 23:58.16 | JCinDE | He's listed as the author. |
| 23:58.16 | dylanm | Oh, right. |
| 23:58.33 | dylanm | I doubt he's touched that stuff in a long time. |
| 23:58.42 | JCinDE | Doesn't look like it. |
| 23:58.51 | dylanm | The last time I heard him mention SpecialEvents was in the context of ripping it out of Cork. |
