IRC log for #wowace on 20080507

00:00.08Primerthat 703 days is the box's real uptime
00:00.10Daemonayou cant beat my 13:37 !
00:00.17Primerhehe
00:01.59ReAnAceConfigDropdown <--- listed in wikis, not preset in the actual Ace3 Package... what's up?
00:03.07AckisI wonder with all the crafting add-ons if it'd be worthwhile for Lib-Tradeskill-1.0 which would save iterations over the tradeskill panel (ie: ARL does a for loop, craftygnome does a for loop, skillet does a for loop, etc)
00:03.15SilverstormReAn: not completely finished yet
00:03.32ReAnk
00:03.37ReAnill add support later then
00:04.16NandiniAckis: if you think you can invent the perfect API, that's good, but would more than one addon ever use it at a time?
00:05.11PolarinaPrimer: These are all minor things...
00:05.51AckisNandini: Just thinking that it would save on some for loopage... my iterate over the trade window recipes x times when it can be done once and you can just get a list of info from there? although there wouldn't be much demand for it
00:05.52PolarinaPrimer: And most of these "failures" are detected by MySQL when set to Strict Mode.
00:06.24AckisI think if I were to do a library it'd be a "lib-itemquery" type where it would synchronize item querying as to not disconenct a player... aka make safe item queries
00:06.39Nandinimy point was, for many people, it wouldn't ever be done "x" times, it would be done one time
00:07.15Nandinibut if it makes your own addon more efficient, there's no reason not to develop it
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00:08.17PolarinaPrimer: There's even a mode to strictly detect a malformed date. Thus, 30th of February doesn't exist.
00:08.36PolarinaGood night. :)
00:08.42Ackisvhaarr: want bug reports for craftgnome? :P
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00:13.38CIA-4103kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r72907 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: fix indentation.
00:13.41Dashkalare the rules for custom channel names documented anywhere?
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00:18.23stew_aAckis: have you ever seen someone with 100% of the ARL recipes for a profession?
00:19.54StanzillaI only need 3 cooking recipes
00:20.10stew_awhich ones?
00:20.12Stanzillathen I have 100% :P
00:20.16Stanzillathe BWL one
00:20.20Stanzillaand 2 horde recipes
00:20.23Stanzilla< alliance
00:20.33stew_asame here, i have all but 2 horde ones
00:20.39Stanzilla^^
00:20.48stew_abut also missing some dailies and the thistle tea one as well as the eggnog and apple cider
00:20.53StanzillaLFG BWL PUG!
00:20.54stew_aand the BWL
00:21.06stew_aits not BWL you know, it just takes brood of nozdormu rep
00:21.11StanzillaI know
00:21.14stew_afarm AQ40 enough
00:21.15Stanzillabut I need the head first
00:21.47stew_asomeone offered to sell it to me for 2500g
00:22.47StanzillaI would have bought it
00:23.01Stanzilla2500g = 1 week of daylies if you are lazy
00:23.11JaxonIf you are lazy, you don't do dailies.
00:23.21Stanzillatrue that! :P
00:23.53stew_a<-- lazy
00:23.58stew_ai keep about 800g
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00:33.46ZhinjioEllipsis: *hug*
00:36.27CIA-4103toadkiller * r72908 10LibStickyFrames-1.0/LibStickyFrames-1.0.lua:
00:36.27CIA-41LibStickyFrames-1.0:
00:36.27CIA-41-- Remove Blizzard Bars & chat frame from LibStickyFrames-1.0. Client mods can add them if necessary.
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00:37.00NivFreakBWL recipe?
00:37.16Daemonadirge's
00:37.44NivFreakwasn't that a quest reward you could only do opening the gates?
00:38.08stew_ano, but you need nozdormu rep to get it, which you generally got by opening the gates
00:39.07NivFreakhrmm
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00:39.28stew_alol, i opened a ticket for my standard tuesday late night pre-maintenance GM pestering, got a pretty pathetic one this week
00:40.12stew_awouldnt answer my question about policy, instead referring me to the suggestion forum
00:40.39NivFreakwhy bother them?
00:41.07stew_abecause its 30 mins before maintenance and theres probably about 3 other tickets open at the time
00:41.27NivFreakand?
00:42.13starlongriefing the GMs eh?
00:42.25stew_ayeah the tend not to mind so much when they dont have a queue of tickets
00:44.19Ackisskillsplusfu is kinda borked today
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00:46.01vhaarrAckis: yes, what bug?
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00:47.02AckisGot this: ChatThrottleLib-19\ChatThrottleLib.lua:387: SendChatMessage(): Whisper message missing target player!
00:47.07Ackisand also !craft didn't work
00:47.33Zankeit possible to have an addon make a ding sound whenever my name is said in any chat? evenw hen gamesound is off?
00:48.17dylanmWhen game sound is totally off? I doubt it.
00:48.21dylanmWell.
00:48.25dylanmI guess it could change the volume itself.
00:48.32dylanmNevermind, that's doable. But I don't think anyone has done it.
00:49.01vhaarrAckis: when?
00:49.27NeoTronthere aer definitely addons that play sounds when I toggled it (Ctrl-S)
00:49.48AckisI got that error after doing a !help to myself
00:50.12Ackiswasn't repeatable however
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00:50.44XelopherisDoes kalecgos still target portals on totems?
00:53.04vhaarrAckis: that doesn't make any sense, you must have some addon that interferes with chat
00:53.38Ackisvhaarr: possible, I have heal organizer as well which uses that lib
00:54.10vhaarrAckis: can you provide a full stack the next time it happens?
00:54.23Ackis*nod* will do
00:54.23Thezankedylanm, what would i have to do?
00:54.35dylanmThezanke: Oh. There you are.
00:54.44dylanmCet the CVar!
00:54.51Thezanke^.^ yeah i didnt know i alreayd had irc open
00:54.53dylanms/Cet/Set/
00:57.41CIA-4103stewart * r72909 10AIBot/: AIBot: Created folder
00:57.55Viper_0000is it just me
00:58.05Viper_0000or does winamp murder WoW fps sometimes, lol
00:58.18Viper_0000and dont tell me to use foobar, i stopped using that a long time ago >.<
00:58.46harl|WoWuhm..
00:59.06harl|WoWi don't have any problem at all running winamp and whatnot next to WoW
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01:00.53harl|WoWof course that's just for music not for anything video-related, because the latter may "murder" fps very well.
01:01.10CIA-4103lilsparky 07lilsparky * r72910 10Skillet/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
01:01.10CIA-41Skillet/lilsparky:
01:01.10CIA-41-fixed enchanting skill iteration display
01:01.10CIA-41-fixed tool code (i think)
01:01.10CIA-41-other bugs killed
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01:06.34CIA-4103durcyn * r72911 10/branches/BigBrother/: mkdir
01:07.09CIA-4103durcyn 07dev * r72912 10BigBrother/: create dev branch
01:07.13harldephinwowless hours again
01:07.15stew_adoes the SVN only accept specified filetypes or does it just reject specific ones?
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01:08.12CIA-4103schelli 07Schelli * r72913 10IceHUD_Hunter/ (IceHUD_Hunter.toc modules/ArcaneShot.lua): IceHUD_Hunter.toc : added arcane shot module
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01:10.19vhaarrstew_a: it only accepts specific file types
01:10.24stew_aah ok
01:10.47stew_ais there a list?
01:10.59CIA-4103durcyn 07dev * r72914 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: fix crappy indentation, first pass at removing SpecialEventsEmbed, probably broken.
01:11.45KolieI love wowace.
01:11.55harldephinok..
01:13.59CIA-4103starlon * r72915 10oUF_ReadyCheck/oUF_ReadyCheck.lua: oUF_ReadyCheck: Prepare already existing objects
01:14.10ckknightKolie: ?
01:14.15Koliesup
01:14.34KolieIt supports psyn, aka works with the curse client package manager,
01:14.58Koliewowace is so awsome I could use it instead of my skin mags.
01:15.28KolieAnd it just made my curse client so much more useful.
01:15.51stew_aok i guess there isnt a list of allowed filetypes
01:16.09Zhinjiowhat do you want to add, stew_a ?
01:16.16stew_a.aiml files
01:16.51Zhinjioyeah, no idea on that one
01:17.14vhaarrstew_a: there's a list somewhere, .aiml is not in it
01:17.31vhaarrstew_a: I don't see why you'd name it anything except .lua or .xml though
01:17.32CIA-4103stewart * r72916 10AIBot/ (10 files in 3 dirs): AIBot: Initial Commit
01:17.34stew_ameh /commits without
01:18.17Viper_0000true, i only get that problem when playing videos in winamp
01:18.44Viper_0000but ican play videos in WMP and it not affect my fps
01:18.57vhaarrstew_a: or it could just be a mime type restriction
01:19.04vhaarrstew_a: sure you set it to text/plain?
01:19.07stew_ayeah
01:19.11CIA-4103starlon * r72917 10oUF_ReadyCheck/oUF_ReadyCheck.lua: oUF_ReadyCheck: Oops. missing syntax
01:19.17stew_ai tried it quickly but got rejected by file extension
01:19.21vhaarrit's probably png, jpg, tga, blp, xml, toc, cmd, bat, sh, txt, lua, and files without any extension
01:20.07CIA-4103starlon * r72918 10oUF_Castbar/oUF_Castbar.lua: oUF_Castbar: Prepare existing objects
01:24.05AckisZhinjio: http://i25.tinypic.com/hv6sjk.jpg
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01:24.52Ackisand that's w/o a food buff... lol my bad
01:25.17Zhinjioawesome.
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01:25.19Zhinjiothanks
01:25.39Ackissexy ui amiright?
01:26.20Zhinjioheh. not too bad
01:28.44CIA-4103stewart * r72919 10AIBot/Brain_Gen/ (44 files): AIBot: Updated Brain_Gen dir contents
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01:32.28stew_ahopes he set his externals correctly
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01:36.29chexsumnerf priests
01:36.46Shirik:( don't nerf priests
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01:37.19chexsumthat regen is crazy
01:37.45digmouse:) nerf all then
01:40.23Marrocwell he's also buffed out the ass :P
01:40.26Ackisgrats me on T6 bracers
01:40.31Shirikheh
01:40.32ShirikI have over 1000 mp5
01:40.33Shirikit's fun
01:40.40Shirikgrats Ackis
01:41.05Shirikbut paladins never run out of mana, I don't see why nerf us :(
01:42.32AckisShirik: http://i25.tinypic.com/hv6sjk.jpg
01:42.36Ackiskekek
01:42.53Shirikomg so can't view that
01:42.59Ackislol why?
01:43.06ShirikI'm on dialup
01:43.07digmouseDNS
01:43.13Ackiswow fail :P
01:43.22Marrocdial...up
01:43.25Marrocthat still exists? :P
01:43.39Shirikit does when you're in the middle of nowhere for 2 months
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01:43.49digmouseO.o that has already gone for years even in China
01:44.15AckisShirik: 2579 healing, 1229 mana regen, 511 while casting, 44 haste :P
01:44.35Ackispre-T6 bracers of course
01:45.01CIA-4103durcyn 07dev * r72920 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: clean up CC break function a bit
01:45.13Shirikbleh
01:45.18digmousenever entered SSV yet, found myself no interest in 25-raid
01:45.28Shirika little better than me, but I only have 2 items from T5/T6 content
01:45.36ShirikI'm a bit behind my team
01:45.45ShirikI have 2200 healing, 1050 mp5
01:45.49Shirikraid buffed of course
01:45.57AckisI didn't even have kings :(
01:46.08Shirikkings = 100 mp5 for me :P
01:46.11Shirikprobably more for you
01:49.14CIA-41037destiny * r72921 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Fixed word order koKR issue
01:50.57CIA-4103sayclub * r72922 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
01:50.57CIA-41AutoBar :
01:50.57CIA-41- koKR Update.
01:51.29Zhinjiook, wtf.
01:51.41CIA-4103kergoth * r72923 10BetterBlizzOptions/BetterBlizzOptions.lua: BetterBlizzOptions: Fix the addons list height to grow with the window height.
01:51.45Zhinjioone of the pally tanks in our guild is trying to be passively uncrushable (without holy shield, iow)
01:51.54Zhinjiowhy in god's name would you want to do that?
01:52.31Zhinjiothats wasting a HUGE amount of stuff you could be putting into stam and/or spelldmg or whatever the fuck else
01:52.46Zhinjiosomeone tell me I'm crazy and that its actually worth it?
01:53.35Zhinjiootherwise, I'm sticking with my original plan of : thats just nuts.
01:54.10Ackis2742 healing, 1431 mp5 563 while casting, 60 haste, 14.99% crit
01:54.14Ackishow sexy is that?
01:56.02Marroc... jeez
01:56.34Ackishttp://i31.tinypic.com/fo2k3p.jpg
01:56.53Marrocthats like a free flash heal every 5 seconds >_<
01:57.12KolieAckis, sick interface.
01:57.40Ackisam I being mocked? thanks tho
01:57.51KolieI must have every addon :)
01:58.04MarrocAckis: talking to me or Kolie?
01:58.30AckisKolie lol
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01:58.39Ackismy guild calls my UI "10 gig config"
01:58.41Parnici can't find anything in the api's that shows how to detect which player is responsible for a particular debuff on a given unit....does anyone know if that's possible?
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01:58.56Parnici've heard x-perl highlights your own debuffs by magnifying them 2x
01:59.02Marrocthe only person who knows that is the person who put it there
01:59.18Marrocand thats only because they can see a time remaining while everyone else can't
01:59.19Parnicah, do you recall how the person responsible can tell? which function that is?
01:59.39Parnicwait, so time remaining is nil if you didn't apply it?
01:59.49MarrocI believe so yes
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01:59.55Parnicinteresting...thanks for the information
01:59.57MarrocBeen a while since I dicked around with it
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02:00.09Marrocbut I would assume so given that you can only see the time remaining of your own debuffs
02:00.16Parnicok, i didn't know that :)
02:00.19Zhinjiono pally tanks on, eh? Damnit.
02:01.36MarrocAckis: Lol at "give me a quick wisdome then please :D for stats"
02:01.40Marrocstop harrassing your paladins :P
02:01.49Ackishehe
02:01.50CIA-4103durcyn 07Morgalm * r72924 10Incubator/IncubatorFuBar.lua: Don't try to send timer to chat if timer is nil
02:01.52Ackisfuck pallys :P
02:03.14MarrocI dunno... just because they're wearing a dress doesn't mean i'm gonna swing that way >_>
02:06.09Ackisheh
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02:13.15CIA-4103scorpio0920 * r72925 10WoWEquip/localization.zhTW.lua:
02:13.16CIA-41WoWEquip:
02:13.16CIA-41- Update zhTW localization. (Thanks childtom)
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02:16.16elite3vilZhinjio: I tank from time to time, what's up?
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02:18.58CIA-4103apoco 07v2 * r72926 10RBM/RBM/AutoRespond/AutoRespond.lua: RBM: Auto-respond max error. (for real this time)
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02:19.46CIA-4103scorpio0920 * r72927 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua:
02:19.46CIA-41AutoBar:
02:19.46CIA-41- Update zhTW localization.
02:19.59luxusShadowed: it is possible change the nameplate bars to class colors? :D
02:20.38dylanmThat's not really information you'll get, I don't think.
02:20.52dylanmI mean if they're in your raid that's possible.
02:21.26stew_aor if you have a large who list like chat addons
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02:21.46Zhinjioelite3vil: there's a pally tankin our guild is attempting to gear to passively uncrushable.
02:21.53Zhinjiomeaning, w/o holy shile.
02:21.55elite3vilYeah.
02:21.56Zhinjioshield.
02:22.01Zhinjiodoes that make *any* sense?
02:22.03elite3vildid you see my privmsg? =P
02:22.07ShadowedNo luxus there won't be
02:22.09Zhinjiooh, no... one sec.
02:22.25Zhinjiook, thank you
02:22.31elite3vilnot a problem. =P
02:22.36JaxonZhinjio: we've got a warrior and a paladin who are both passively uncrushable, or at least were until SWP.
02:22.45luxusShadowed: hm :( that was the only thing i use i aloft!
02:23.49dylanmGetting it without Holy Shield... what's the point of that?
02:24.03elite3vilZhinjio: I think they mention something about it on the EJ or Maintankadin forums.. I was reading about it Sunday I think.
02:24.18dylanmAs its own end. Obviously the stats are good.
02:24.24Zhinjioyeah, I mean, you're dumping HUGE resource into points that would be so much better spent on stam or spelldmg or something. anything else.
02:25.15JaxonOf course the warrior who was passively uncrushable had huge rage issues and chugged  Rage Pots
02:25.21QuantumDeltapass crush immunity is kinda
02:25.25QuantumDeltapassive**
02:25.32QuantumDeltaOTT and unneeded like ever :<
02:25.58QuantumDeltaThough Pallys have to get close to what would have been the old normal crush immunity to be crush immune on sunwell's eredar twin -.-
02:28.34QuantumDeltaunless they wanna solo old raid bosses
02:28.41QuantumDelta...cuz then it's like free gold
02:28.42QuantumDelta>_>
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02:33.24elite3vilYay. Kalecgos... two nights in a row!
02:33.30elite3vil/wrists
02:33.42elite3vilWe killed him last night, only took us four hours.
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02:38.06CIA-4103sayclub * r72928 10DebuffAlarm/ (DebuffAlarm.toc Localization_koKR.lua):
02:38.06CIA-41DebuffAlarm:
02:38.06CIA-41- Added koKR localization
02:38.44QuantumDeltaelite3vil: We just paid our first half night visit to him after 1st killing illidan tonight
02:39.13QuantumDeltadoesn't seem like he'd be that hard after you get the coordination down :<
02:39.47hydrogenyou pretty much summed up level 70 raiding
02:40.09SilverstormI hope your 24 people are smarter than my 24 people...took us 3 nights at least before we stopped sucking up portals
02:43.34kenlyricyou just summed up all raiding
02:43.42kenlyriccoordination -> focus -> dead
02:45.34luxusi just want zerg everything down
02:46.22Silverstormheh, that describes our BT runs...two trash packs at a time more often than not
02:47.18QuantumDeltawell the demon has 2.9m or so hp?
02:47.25QuantumDeltakalecgos only has 1.6
02:47.41QuantumDeltaso it's not exactly a long fight, it may seem overwhelming at first but once you get the portals/curses down
02:47.56QuantumDeltawe went in there tonight with 2 mages and 1 resto druid
02:48.03CIA-4103jjsheets * r72929 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_ButtonTypes.lua MacroSupport.lua):
02:48.03CIA-41InfiniBar-2.0 - Fixed Mouseover for bag, backpack, and menu button types. Macro
02:48.03CIA-41parser will use the first usable action, or the first unusable if none are
02:48.03CIA-41usable. Macros placed in standard buttons will only use the macro parser's icon
02:48.03CIA-41if the ? icon is set in the Blizzard macro panel.
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02:48.09QuantumDeltamade low % kinda /never gonna happen/ -.-
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03:06.59elite3vilQuantumDelta: He's not bad, as long as people aren't retarded and take the wrong port, or miss theirs.
03:08.16elite3vilWe left after two attempts, because of disconnects
03:08.18elite3vilwe're in BT now.
03:08.19QuantumDeltahow do you dictate who goes through a portal?
03:08.40elite3vilby group
03:08.47elite3vil2 - 5 are assigned to go with their own group
03:08.53elite3viltank goes every other portal.
03:08.55QuantumDeltathe random portaler dictates the group guy or you force a rotation?
03:09.09elite3vilthey dictate which group
03:09.19elite3vilthe portaler
03:09.23QuantumDeltawhat's your best attempt?
03:09.30elite3vilwe killed him last night
03:09.33QuantumDeltaoops
03:09.38elite3vilwe've killed him 3 or 4 times
03:09.38QuantumDeltasorry too many convos at once ;P
03:09.53QuantumDeltasurely after a few it normalises and becomes quite easy to manage?
03:10.03elite3vileh.
03:10.16elite3vilNot really.
03:10.25Silverstormyou have to experience several different orders before that really happens
03:10.55elite3vilI think the only kills we have on him, the melee gets ported first
03:12.04elite3vilrogue with glaives + drums + lust = good dmg on the demon =P
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03:13.10Silverstormwe usually have to slow down on the demon just a little
03:13.29aestilAntiarc: nice push
03:13.31elite3vildepends on the night for us
03:13.36aestilthank god it loads to my blipstream now.
03:13.55elite3villast time we were right on and the demon died when the dragon hit 12%
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03:17.54elite3vilI wonder how much we're going to fail on Supremus tonight.
03:18.18Silverstormwe got him in 6:37...fastest kill I've been in
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03:19.55kergothbah, lootfilter is broken wrt different types of bags
03:20.44elite3vilSilverstorm: Our dps usually fails and dies to volcanoes.
03:20.56elite3vilthere've been times our healers had to dps the last 20%
03:21.22Silverstormthat's worse than fail
03:22.02elite3vilYep.
03:22.14elite3vilyet we somehow manage to clear this place, and kill Kalecgos.
03:22.32JaxonLast week we had 8 people alive for the last 20%
03:22.37JaxonIt was hilariously bad
03:23.10elite3vilYeah.
03:23.18JaxonOnly one tank and 3 healers.
03:23.34elite3vilwow.
03:24.02elite3vilHave you had your OT run out with 10 seconds left before kite phase, and kill all the melee? lol.
03:24.14JaxonNo but I'm going to get them to next time, that sounds awesome
03:24.27elite3villol.
03:24.35elite3vilHe's good for one wipe a night.
03:24.44elite3vilSomehow.
03:24.48Marrocyou make rogues everywhere cry with your suggestions elite3vil
03:24.56elite3villol.
03:25.01elite3vilI was ret that night too. =P
03:25.16elite3vilbut I parried and dodged a hateful on my way out
03:27.11hydrogenI had a string of 15 dodges without evasion in heroic slavepens the other night..
03:27.47Marroc... speaking of dodging things... I still can't believe that rogue from Shards of Existence was able to tank Shahraz 100-0  (http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=73639# for those who haven't heard)
03:27.56elite3villol.
03:28.02elite3vilhow about Illidan?
03:28.12JaxonPhase 1 illidan
03:28.53elite3vilYeah.
03:29.00digmouseya, 76% dodge and 12% parry and ~10% chance to miss
03:29.14digmousehe's invinciable
03:29.30JJSheetsdamn.  That bastard is squirmy.
03:29.33digmouse1200+ agi
03:29.45digmouseI got his armory page
03:29.54Marroche was at something like 1k tps too
03:29.55digmouseonly normal gear, even have blues
03:30.03digmouse900-1k TPS
03:30.34elite3villol@ standing in the blue flame on Supremus because I'm tabbing over to here.
03:30.38aestilstill, he must have the potential to be kill with an unlucky string of hits
03:30.57digmousebut most times that wont happen
03:31.08Silverstorm76% dodge, 12% parry, 10% miss, and 5% from scorpid sting = can't be hit anyway
03:31.09Marrochits? try hit
03:31.13digmouse76+ dodge and with Evasion?
03:31.15Marrocif he gets nailed he's gonna go down hard
03:31.27digmousealmost 100% miss
03:31.38digmousehe's stealth
03:31.42VonhintenHOME`one hit will crit or crush him
03:31.56digmouseyep
03:32.21VonhintenHOME`but, with decent armor, and 25% armor buff from crit heal, might live, who knows
03:32.23Silverstormbut if he's up to ~100%, scorpid sting puts him past the 102.6% he needs, right?
03:32.24JaxonThe idea is that he doesn't get hit
03:32.25JaxonEver
03:32.39Silverstormso he *never* gets hit
03:32.41digmouseNever
03:32.58Marrocisn't there always an extremely small chance to be hit? or is that only spells?
03:33.00digmouseI think he only gets 1 or 2 minor hits in the full combat
03:33.16Silverstormonly spells I believe
03:33.16Jaxondigmouse: probably shadow bouncing to him, I haven't watched the video.
03:33.17digmousewhile a normal tank would get hundreds
03:33.44Fisker-http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52547 <-fail
03:33.44Marroctrue enough, but either way its a pretty interesting way to tank... but god save your raid if your math is off :P
03:34.01VonhintenHOME`well, think about all the healers you could replace with DPS too =P
03:34.13MarrocFisker: ... that blows ass... Good thing there will likely be a crack within a few weeks :P
03:34.32Fisker-yeah :P
03:34.42elite3vilreplace all of them with hunters
03:34.42kenlyriccool!
03:34.50elite3vilmisdirect + fd
03:34.52elite3villol.
03:34.53kenlyricso when they take the servers down three years alter, no more game!
03:34.57digmouse1 rogue 3 healers and all DPS!!
03:35.03kenlyricthey're learning from Plays for Sure
03:35.21VonhintenHOME`They're gonna learn themselves right out of my money
03:35.23digmouseso she will down in 3mins!!
03:35.44Marrocor something will go horribly horribly wrong and everyone will explode :P
03:36.02JJSheetsIt'll be the end of the World...
03:36.05JJSheetsof Warcraft.
03:36.25digmousebut never can he tank illidan out of P2 :D
03:36.30Marrocgot to remember that the rogue has absolutely no ohshit button if something happens to upset the threat levels so if Someone gets ahead of him, or he fat fingers vanish, the raid is screwed
03:36.31digmouseso there will not be end
03:36.33JaxonHow long did it take for Steam to have Offline support?  It was still in beta, I believe.
03:36.55digmouseI havent log on to my steam for half a year
03:37.12VonhintenHOME`steam is the reason I don't own any of those games
03:37.12kenlyricthis is why people hate pc games. You never needed a Pirate Wheel for Mario Kart
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03:37.29Marroc... though I'm sure one exists >_>
03:37.44VonhintenHOME`btw, just saw Iron Man DLP at the theaters... pretty cool flick
03:37.50kenlyricsteam is the right way to do it, you don't have to think about it.
03:37.55JaxonThe sheer amount of money it would cost EA to pay people to handle on phone support to tell customers they need to have an active internet connection.
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03:39.00MarrocWell it makes sense for spore i guess... While you could play the game offline, half the fun is having it populate your worlds with other peoples stuff
03:40.21kenlyricof course, they might not be assholes. If they ever discontinue their keyserver they could just patch the game to not require a check.
03:41.01kenlyriclike Warcraft3!
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03:41.10Marrocthat would require work on their part though... and EA hates work :P
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03:44.27kenlyricyou gotta wonder what braintrusts at the these companies keep pushing these drm schemes that don't actually provide any monetary benefit.
03:44.35kenlyricI thought EA was all about the cash
03:45.27kenlyricthe SecuROM vendor must be one hell of a salesman.
03:45.35JJSheetslol
03:48.00Fisker-yeah
03:48.08Fisker-i bet they're laughing all the way down to the bank
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03:49.08digmouseuse YASU
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03:53.01kenlyricnice, you can use your old blizzard keys to get the downloadable version (for war3, starcraft)
03:54.03elite3vilwow.
03:54.25elite3vilhunter just autoran into Akama's room
03:54.36elite3vilwe hadn't cleared any of the trash *in* his room yet.
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03:54.47JaxonThats how I pull that room
03:54.59elite3viland then he fd'd
03:56.13JaxonI don't suppose I could parse and try to upload this report and have WWS actually respond
03:56.44ZhinjioG'night folks.
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04:07.34hydrogenI wish wws hadn't removed the ability to generate local reports
04:08.29JaxonOr use the site for live testing of code.
04:08.42Maeloselite3vil: aoe pull? :)
04:08.48JaxonInvalid ID sent back by server?  Someone changed something on the backend and forgets tos ee if it'll work?
04:09.11dylanmelite3vil: Was he afraid that if he /followed it would be too obvious...?
04:09.21elite3vilMaelos: I'm holy tonight, no aoe agro =P
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04:10.40elite3vildylanm: "My computer locked up for 20 seconds there when I had autorun on"
04:10.45CIA-4103parnic * r72930 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua:
04:10.45CIA-41IceHUD:
04:10.45CIA-41- added optional sizing for (de)buffs i cast versus other players
04:11.06dylanmI totally believe he wasn't getting a sandwich.
04:11.25kenlyricyou /follow for a sammich
04:11.28elite3villol.
04:11.30JaxonThe more mind control packs you pull at once, the better chance the raid member you all hate is going to get mind controlled and you can kill them
04:11.46elite3vilthey dock our DKP when we kill someone who's MC'd
04:11.55JaxonReason #2 not to use DKP.
04:12.50CIA-4103starlon * r72931 10DebuffAlarm/DebuffAlarm.lua:
04:12.50CIA-41DebuffAlarm:
04:12.50CIA-41- Only play sound for _APPLIED events
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04:13.38[Liq]Hi everyone :-)
04:14.13MaelosPublic accountability seems to work better than punishments like docking dkp for that sort of thing
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04:15.41hydrogenBlizzard only adds mind control packs so that you get practice switching targets fast
04:15.47hydrogenyou don't have much time to burn down the person!
04:21.14Fisker-wasn't wowmatrix discovered to be malware?
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04:24.43AllaraFisker-: was it really?
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04:40.20Gary13579hydrogen: haha
04:40.39Gary13579I usually shadow bolt shadow burn
04:40.42Gary13579+ death coil if it's up
04:47.28LukianParnic, oooo sexy commit :D
04:48.05hydrogenI tend to save all my cooldowns
04:48.29ckknightI'm plagued by a very sexy learning disorder: sexlexia!
04:48.35LukianI don't suppose you can reorder them, put them in a different area, or make them "fade" when expired? (I'm considering using a castbar like addon -- but if Icehud could do something to let me know when a buff falls off or is about to expire)
04:48.58Lukiandebuff*
04:49.07Fisker-this isn't pastorama ckknight
04:49.07VonhintenHOME`Sure it's not dicklexia :)
04:49.08Fisker-;_;
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04:49.17CIA-4103toadkiller * r72932 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassButton.lua:
04:49.17CIA-41AutoBar :
04:49.17CIA-41-- Less alpha for the blue spell borders
04:49.19ckknightpastroama?
04:49.23ckknightpastorama*
04:49.35Fisker-hoho!
04:49.43Fisker-you didn't get the reference to the show you were stealing jokes from
04:49.49Fisker-laughs and obvious trolls more
04:50.47hydrogenhmm
04:51.03hydrogenapparently enabling threading on a mailbox with 13000 emails in it doesn't work that well in thunderbird
04:51.20ToadkillerButtonFacade is the greatest thing since sliced bread!
04:51.38JJSheetsI intend it to be even better.  :p
04:51.38ckknightwhat's ButtonFacade?
04:51.47JJSheets~buttonfacade
04:51.47purli guess buttonfacade is ButtonFacade.  It's the addon that ran up behind cyCircled, beat it to death, then rifled through it's pockets for loose change.
04:52.05ckknightum, so what's it do?
04:52.06ToadkillerIts a skinning lib that AUTHORS include in their mod.  Instead of monstrous things like cyCircled
04:52.12ckknightah, okay
04:52.19Jaxonckknight: a properly written replacement to ...
04:52.20Jaxonyeah
04:52.27ckknightI never used cyCircled
04:52.36JaxonButton skinning
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04:53.30Arsonid1Are macro questions relevant in this channel?
04:53.36Toadkillersure
04:53.46Arsonid1<PROTECTED>
04:54.04Arsonid1Am I correct in assuming that when I use shift on a harmful target this will cast pyroblast, if it's a helpful target it'll PB his target?
04:54.08Arsonid1and fireball with no mod
04:54.48Toadkillerright.  is it targettarget or targetstarget?
04:54.55Arsonid1I've looked at some "Pyroblast Opener" macros that cast pyroblast when you aren't in combat and fireball when you are, but frankly I don't like automating things like that...there are situations when I want to open combat quickly and situations when I want a big slow attack in the midst of combat.
04:55.03Ackisyou spin me right round baby right round like a record baby
04:55.16Arsonid1I think targettarget
04:55.18Toadkillerright round round round
04:55.38TemArsonid1, that macro will never cast pyroblast
04:55.42ToadkillerWell chuck it on your macro list & try it...
04:56.27Arsonid1Why's that tem?
04:56.42Tembecause it's unreachable
04:56.57Toadkillernomod is no modifeirs yes?
04:57.01Arsonid1right
04:57.08Arsonid1I could put nomodifier but I think nomod works
04:57.11Toadkillerso if no mods first one if shift 2nd
04:57.17Temwhat do you want exactly?
04:57.26Temcast either fireball or pyro based on you holding shift?
04:57.34Toadkillerhe wants pyro n shift... fire otherwise...
04:57.48Temand then cast on either your target if you're targetting a harmful or on targettarget otherwise?
04:57.51Jaxon<PROTECTED>
04:57.51Arsonid1basically I want an attack that hits my target if my target is an enemy, and my target's target if I'm targetting a friendly (the tank). An assist attack.
04:57.58Arsonid1THEN on top of that, shift for pyro, nothing for fireball.
04:58.35Jaxon<PROTECTED>
04:58.36Tem<PROTECTED>
04:58.48Toadkillerah right that part of it.  u need 2 more of them for taht
04:58.51AckisI wnat a macro that will heal 3 people based on their health without requiring me to think... wait I'm not a shaman :(
04:59.12TemJaxon, that will always cast Pyro
04:59.14Arsonid1Ackis: This macro doesn't really automate anything.
04:59.32Ackisi'm just QQing about shaman brain heal
04:59.44JaxonAckis: WTS Circle of Healing.  I like it better.
04:59.51Arsonid1It's not a warlock cast sequence.
04:59.56ToadkillerStop the qq & get your dipping bird to completely automate it...
05:00.14AckisChain Heal > CoH by about 12million
05:00.20ToadkillerLearn to raid heal while u go make a milkshake or something
05:00.27Ackismmm milkshake
05:00.31Ackisit brings all the boys to the yard
05:00.41Toadkiller<--- recommends chocolate banana
05:01.46Arsonid1I was just raiding the other day and I was decursing and sheeping and I would click the tank and then click his target on my interface to continue DPSing. The thing was, the tank was switching targets a lot, some he had no threat on, but he had targetted at some point. If I happened to target him while he was targetting the NON main tanked mob, then I'm going to hit the auxilliary mob and get rocked.
05:01.59Arsonid1With an assist macro I could always know what the tank is currently on.
05:02.21Arsonid1Though a mouseover decurse and a focused sheep would definately ease some confusion.
05:02.37JaxonI've found mouseover decursing to be a lot quicker/more responsive.
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05:03.45Toadkilleris there a way to target someone's focus?
05:03.53JaxonNo
05:03.57JaxonFocus is clientside only.
05:04.00Toadkillerah
05:04.19CIA-4103stormfx * r72933 10ButtonFacade_Caith/ (Skins.lua Textures/Normal.tga):
05:04.19CIA-41ButtonFacade_Caith:
05:04.19CIA-41<PROTECTED>
05:04.32ToadkillerToo bad that would be a nice way to set dps target by the MA
05:07.08Ackiswow
05:07.14Ackistwins reverse strat is so fucking easy
05:07.32Ackisfirst attempt on reverse strat 13% wipe
05:07.36ToadkillerArent they bugged atm?
05:07.54Ackisdidn't see anything
05:08.05ToadkillerYeah 13% says otherwise doesnt it
05:08.16Ackisping funkeh'
05:08.25Ackis13% on our first time doing it ever :P
05:08.32Ackisping funkeh`
05:08.49ToadkillerHaha we were on those two dipheads when BC came out
05:09.04Ackisoh god wrong twins :P
05:09.18ToadkillerBut in a 40 man there were too many people that despite instructions to remove aoe from bars were doing their own thing & making super bugs
05:09.33Ackisremember thunderfury on that fight?
05:09.35ToadkillerWha not the AQ40 twins?
05:09.48Ackis:P
05:10.09ToadkillerThunderfury was no isse for us since one of its componenets never ever never never never ever dropped for us
05:10.26Ackislol
05:10.45Ackisanyways, do you know if Funkeh` wants a reverse strat transcriptor?
05:10.48ToadkillerAnother raid that got in there after us had 3 by the time BC hit
05:11.35Ackisi've never seen an orange drop except naxx which doesn't count
05:12.00ToadkillerOh we had the other components coming out the wazoo and I dont know how many ingots
05:12.02JaxonViolation doesn't seperate by fight, does it.
05:12.25LukianToadkiller> But in a 40 man there were too many people that despite instructions to remove aoe from bars
05:12.34Lukiandoes that actually do anything?
05:12.44LukianI have abilities not on my bars that get used when I'm MC'ed
05:13.00ToadkillerYeah if u hit the bugs they get angry huge & jump on healers...
05:13.19Lukianhehe yeah I remember :D
05:13.24ToadkillerNo not for MC, its to stop people from shooting bugs...
05:13.37ToadkillerU gotta remmeber the downs fest that was a 40 man
05:13.41Lukianlol, people misclicked aoe that often? XD
05:13.42Lukianhaha
05:13.44Lukianindeed
05:13.50LukianI used to heal MC as feral :D
05:13.53ToadkillerPeople who just were on follow for half the raid that kinda thing
05:14.22Lukian..and still place first
05:14.24Lukianhaha
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05:15.24Funkeh`Ackis, a wha?
05:15.34ToadkillerDude, on the 4th week in there we are like once more pls remove your aoe from your bars.  Umpa the "Im really quite intelligent if u get to know me" Hunter gets caught doing multishot.  We are like wtf what part of remove aoe dont u get.  "My multishot is smart, it doesnt hit stuff I dont want to hit"
05:16.15Lukianmultishot has a rather limited range
05:16.29ToadkillerYeah but the place CRAWLS with bugs
05:16.30Lukianso that is viable, unless it actually hit a bug then he fails hard! :p
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05:17.01AckisFunkeh`: want reverse strat transcriptor log?
05:17.04Toadkillerthe bugs are part of the encounter: the bosses activate a few from time to time & total retard noobs can manually activate them as well
05:17.41Funkeh`Ackis, a reverse strat of what
05:17.42Zyndrome"Don't AoE, remember that ffs! - Ok" and bladeflurry, whirlwind, demoshouts etc etc went off right away :<
05:17.59Toadkillerlol Zyndrome knows the score
05:17.59dylanmFunkeh`: I'm guessing twins?
05:18.15LukianZyndrome, yeah, people always forgot about shouts :(
05:18.50Ackisyes eradar twins, kill shadow then fire
05:18.52Zyndromeand melee being dense not to move before a teleport
05:19.19ToadkillerIt seemed like each person of the 40 had to individually test out each of their aoe (thus wiping us) instead of just not doing aoe
05:20.07Zyndrome"move! move! GTFO! - eh? *teleport* ... <20 seconds pass> .... Ok corpserun >_>"
05:20.36ToadkillerBtw, who here unleashed their mechanical Yeti in the tunnel of 5 billion giant insects before uncle Frankriss?
05:21.03fsfodi just setup another action page that i would switch to for the fight with like just aimedshot on it
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05:21.24Ackislol toad
05:21.25ZyndromeI ressed a pet at Grand Widow Faerlina which was set to Aggresive while half raid was ressed \o/
05:21.49ToadkillerOrionshock: Hey socd needs to handle arcane tome hand in!  Its blue "?" quest ...
05:22.06Orionshockhey Toadkiller , but it is not a dailiy quest, so sorry
05:22.47ToadkillerDude that yeti pulled ALL the mobs.  People were like who is pulling that?  But hes so fast & tiny u coudnt see him.  I had tears of laughter rolling down my face.
05:22.59Ackislmao that would've been so pro
05:23.03Allara~seen Pastamancer
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05:23.12fsfodi rember i found out the hardway why not to fd at the end of bug tunnel
05:23.20AckisI have so many screenshots of seeing c'thun hit me for 12 billion
05:23.27ToadkillerWe were pretty buff because we made the run with only a coupla deaths
05:24.01ToadkillerOmg yeah the same Ump would always fd there & wipe us as we are setting up to rerun
05:24.06Toadkiller*Umpa
05:24.27ToadkillerBtw: damn those yellow snakes anyways
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05:25.04Zyndromehttp://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/howthefuckdidthishappen.jpg
05:27.14fsfodintimdating shout kinda got nerfed cause of that fight
05:29.26Ackislol
05:29.33Ackissomeone in our raid just walked to the conflag spot
05:29.34Ackisrofl
05:29.40Ackisahahahah
05:30.21vithoswalked isntead of ran?
05:30.30Ackisyes
05:30.35Ackishad the walk toggle on lol
05:30.45vithosat least they aren't falling off the ledge before the pull
05:31.20vithoswe have some people who jump straight at the ledge instead of from the side
05:31.26Ackislol
05:31.43vithosand/or hit their numlock key once they're already up there
05:31.50vithoslike, that's when they discovered what numlock is bound to
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05:33.49pastamancer~seen Allara
05:33.50purlallara is currently on #wowace (3h 21m 33s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 10m 47s, last said: '~seen Pastamancer'.
05:33.51PeoiiYou've got to be kidding me...
05:34.02Peoiimy dns still hasn't updated the wowace.com addr.
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05:34.34AllaraPastamancer: heya
05:34.36vithosis your browser cacheing the lookup/you haven't closed it for days?
05:34.47Peoiidoubt it... but lemme check again
05:35.43Peoiinegative...
05:35.53vithosif you nslookup it's the wrong address?
05:35.57MaelosWhat was the deal with the need for the dns change?
05:36.03MaelosSudden change of provider?
05:36.13vithosand does your router have a cacheing dns server?
05:36.37vithosif your router intercepts dns, or provides itself as the dns server through dhcp
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05:36.58vithosor windows is cacheing it, ipconfig /flushdns
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05:40.39pastamancerAllara: heya
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05:41.00AllaraSaw your message on the forums :)
05:42.20AllaraI'd love to get access to the svn if you're still in the giving mood ;)
05:43.34pastamancerMay 3?
05:43.48Allarathat's when I sent the email
05:43.53pastamancerHistMode
05:44.01AllaraHitsMode, yep
05:44.20Allarasigned the rules page back in september I think
05:44.46pastamancerok, your gmail address then?
05:44.51Allaraallara.starmist@gmail.com
05:45.32pastamancerdone
05:45.37Allarathanks a bunch :)
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05:47.08Peoiiokay, so it's not my browser, and I've done ipconfig /flushdns...
05:47.18Peoiimy router I don't believe is caching it, so I'm kinda lost.
05:47.42vithoswhat does `nslookup wowace.com` return?
05:47.55Peoiihrm, keeps saying "DNS request timed out."
05:48.13Funkeh`opendns ftw
05:48.21Peoiiyea basically :/
05:48.26vithosit says your dns server is something other than your router though?
05:48.52Peoiiyea
05:48.59Peoiinsseat01.verizon.net
05:49.05vithoshm
05:49.10vithosyeah i use opendns too
05:49.33Peoiiyea, I'm switching right now
05:50.14OrionshockAntiarc: ping
05:50.31OrionshockArrowmaster? ping
05:50.33vithosthey do an annoying search page for invalid hostnames though
05:50.58Funkeh`vithos, think you can change it
05:51.00vithosyour verizon ns is timing out for me too
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05:51.08vithosfor all addresses
05:51.21vithosbut they may firewall non-verizon source addresses
05:51.56vithosFunkeh`: i made an account to turn it off, but either the option wasn't there or it didn't work, i don't remember
05:52.01Orionshockanyone know where in the code of omen are the fubar options?
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05:52.56Orionshocknevermind found it..
05:52.58Allararight at the top of Omen.lua I think
05:53.30dylanmConfig.lua?
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06:03.35CIA-41AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
06:03.35CIA-41- Update zhCN/zhTW locale
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06:03.49CIA-41AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
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06:05.20PeoiiThanks very much for the opendns tip.  workin like a charm.
06:05.32PeoiiLess I have to deal with Verizon, the better.
06:05.58vithosFunkeh`: oh you're right, they have a (new?) option to "disable opendns proxy" now
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06:52.55CIA-4103StiviS * r72939 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:
06:52.55CIA-41AutoBar :
06:52.55CIA-41- esES updated
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06:56.39LywellynWoW.  WtF.
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06:57.23LywellynSo my character FINALLY gets copied to the test realm....and I had to rename it?  eh?!
06:57.37Nandiniall copies have to be renamed
06:57.44Nandiniyou can rename it back if your name isn't taken
06:57.59Ellipsisthey just do that so they don't have to figure out whether the name is taken or not
07:00.04LywellynOh well hell then. XD I thought it meant my name was taken. :p
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07:00.18Fisker--I R OBVIOUS TROLL RAWR
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07:00.39Fisker--http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3982958381&sid=1#3
07:00.47Ellipsisno u
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07:05.32LywellynSo I'm curious...I'm fully prepared to accept that I may just not know what all is involed in it...
07:05.33Fisker--slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large 10lb brown trout
07:05.44CIA-4103jayhawk * r72940 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/SkillsPlusFu.lua:
07:05.44CIA-41FuBar_SkillsPlusFu:
07:05.44CIA-41- moved self:update call to a friendlier place...=/
07:05.46Ellipsismmm Fisker--, you know how I like it
07:05.48Lywellynbut....seriously.  character copying.  You're copying data.  How can your queue be full?
07:07.20Nandinithere is a very large number of database structures that must be copied when a character moves to a new battlegroup (including copies to the ptr) and they all have to be done in a certain order
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07:07.58PaeneAnyone here run Ubuntu?
07:08.06LywellynI just installed it, actually =D
07:08.16Paene64 or 32bit?
07:08.21Lywellyn32
07:08.38PaeneI'm trying to decide which distro I want to go with
07:08.39JaxonPaene: I don't use it right now but I've got a lot of experience with it.  And Debian before that.
07:08.49LywellynJust go with...what is it, .04?
07:08.51Lywellyn8.04
07:08.57PaeneI meant 32bit vs 64bit
07:09.01OrionshockArrowmaster:  http://ace.pastey.net/87378   --Generic func for getting fubar options for ace3, would you consider polishing it and adding it into LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0  ??
07:09.02Lywellynohh.
07:09.18LywellynCouldn't say.  I have zero experience with 64 bit period.
07:09.22Paenesame
07:09.39JaxonIf you go with 64bit, some stuff that doesn't have 64 bit versions will require you to run them in 32bit chroots with 32bit libraries and all
07:09.43PaeneI'm downloading both install CD's, gonna try using the Live CD's of each adn see which works
07:09.54PaeneJaxon: in other words pain in the ass?
07:10.01JaxonYup
07:10.16PaeneI was reading about that, seems like more work than I'd want to put in
07:10.30PaeneI'll prob end up going with the 32bit
07:10.35JaxonOr may be comfortable enough for
07:11.21PaeneI've used linux a lot at school, and installed Gentoo and Kubuntu on my laptop, but it's hardware isn't very well supported
07:11.26Paeneso I'm not entirely new
07:12.19PaeneWINE runs WoW fine I'd assume?
07:12.30renchapyes
07:12.46renchapi run wow on ubuntu 32 and gentoo 64 without problems
07:12.49JaxonI used Cedega, but yeah, I've heard people have had luck with Wine, Cedega and Crossover
07:13.05renchap(but problems with ati cards, works fine with nvidia)
07:13.24JaxonBecause ATi's linux support was shit last time I looked.
07:13.31JaxonWhich was awhile ago, to be fair.
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07:14.25LywellynThey have an ati catalyst package you can install.  I have it on mine.
07:14.32PaeneI run nvidia
07:14.34Paenealways have
07:14.42LywellynDidn't have a choice on my laptop.
07:15.10LywellynQuestion:  How does one get WoW to run in Ubuntu, and can I run it off of the NTFS drive?
07:15.53ncd|Aileenwine Wow.exe?
07:15.59Paenelol
07:16.11Ellipsisyou can run it off your ntfs drive fine as long as you have it mounted read-write
07:16.38LywellynI should try that then.
07:16.43PaeneDoesn't WINE add a right-click option to run something in WINE?  Or maybe I added that last time...
07:16.43Paenelol
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07:17.49Orionshockok... so how am i formatting this wrong?
07:17.51Orionshock"\\Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Repair"
07:18.36Elkanowow... extended maintance in EU but most of the servers are back online about 2hr early
07:19.50LywellynOrionshock: Maybe no \\ before INterface?
07:19.53Paeneyeah
07:19.56Paeneit's no \\
07:19.59Paenebefore Interface
07:20.10PaeneInterface\\Icons\\Ability_Repair
07:20.12Paeneshould work
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07:22.01Orionshockhumm... bug wtih fubar-plugin-mod....
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07:22.02Orionshock-.-
07:22.36Ellipsisstop doing it wrong
07:22.46Paenesound advice
07:23.34OrionshockEllipsis: indeed...
07:23.53Orionshockcryptic instructions are difficult to understand :P
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07:30.03Paenehm...can't play mp3 in linux right?
07:30.08Paeneor is there a way to do so?
07:30.32durcynPaene: huh?  mpg123 works fine, or are you talking about wow in wine?
07:30.48Paenejust reading the ubuntu docs
07:30.59Paenesays mp3 isn't supported by default
07:31.10Paeneme thinks it lies
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07:32.44Paeneah nvm, it's just by default, it's still possible to add them
07:34.31Orionshockprays this dosn't up and fubar the whole addon
07:34.35CIA-4103orionshock * r72941 10GuildCraft/ (9 files in 3 dirs): GuildCraft: Add Fubar support via modified version by Arrowmaster. Remove chatchannelComms file, as it will not be used here.
07:34.50LywellynI added Audacious and the....damnit, can't remember the codec's package name.
07:34.59LywellynAudacious pretty much = Linux Winamp.  Win.
07:35.30CIA-4103evl * r72942 10Vendor/Libs/Import.xml: Vendor: Corrected invalid path to Waterfall library
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07:56.49vithos~seen p3lim
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07:57.38CIA-4103elkano * r72943 10FramesResized/ (. FramesResized.lua FramesResized.toc embeds.xml):
07:57.38CIA-41FramesResized
07:57.39CIA-41- bumped version to 2.1
07:57.39CIA-41- no longer using Ace2 framework
07:57.39CIA-41- fixed position of 'next page' buttons for loot frame
07:57.39CIA-41- bumped TOC
07:57.51Elsiaheya
07:58.40Elkanofrom 20100 to 20400... didn't change much ^^
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08:02.22CIA-4103ammo * r72944 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: D-FENS! in guild_roster_update code
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08:09.50vithosElkano: i may have asked this before, but could you make it possible to link blacklists on one group to whitelists on another, in EBB?
08:10.42vithosi have some differnet colored buff groups for ranged based auras, procs, lw drums, etc
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08:10.53vithosand it's pretty annoying to have to edit all those seperate lists
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08:16.44CIA-4103kunda * r72945 10Capping/locals/localization-deDE.lua: Capping: deDE update
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08:20.51CIA-4103durcyn 07dev * r72946 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: rework Misdirection and CC Break combat log parser function to suck slightly less
08:22.03Elkanovithos, sounds a lot easier than it actually is codewise :/
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08:23.54durcyneh, something like blacklist -> copy from -> group -> whitelist/blacklist
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08:27.38SnagoYou could set the same table as blacklist for one group and whitelist for one?
08:28.59durcynSnago: i doubt the code is set up to accept an arbitrary table
08:30.16ElkanoSnago, the problem is that this will break when storing things in SVs
08:33.43durcynbut a table copy in the dewdrop wouldn't be that bad
08:34.14SnagoThen you could save an extra value linkWith = groupID and re-link OnInit
08:37.31vithoscopy table would be fine, as long as it's actually "add to" and not "copy"
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08:46.32Fisker--slaps Elkano around a bit with a large 10lb brown trout
08:46.48Ellipsismah trout!
08:47.55Elkano~lart Fisker-
08:47.55purlcuts Fisker- into thin stripes
08:49.17digmouseI ran into a mess of fighting, sorry
08:49.44digmouse*close the door and leave*
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08:56.48Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
08:57.19Ellipsislicks Zhinjio
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09:01.59vhaarrhaste: you need to keep these oUF addons on a leash, new ones pop up 24/7, and the code is *bad*
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09:03.59ZhinjioHow're you, Ellipsis?
09:04.14Ellipsiscold :(
09:04.21EllipsisI forgot what the weather was like here
09:05.09digmouseEllipsis: where are you now O.o?
09:05.10Zhinjiowarms Ellipsis up!
09:05.47Ellipsislooks around
09:05.54EllipsisI appear to be in some sort of...room
09:05.58Ellipsispossibly within a building
09:06.17LywellynOoh, I like this game.
09:06.28LywellynxD
09:07.54evlvhaarr: He's following the ancient programmers mantra: "There is no fork."
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09:25.45CIA-4103durcyn 07dev * r72947 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: fix cc break logic
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09:36.31CIA-4103durcyn 07dev * r72948 10BigBrother/ (7 files): clean up Misdirection announce strings
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09:41.05Kulaardoes AzCastbar have a GCD bar?
09:41.39Elsiadon't think so
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09:50.30CIA-4103ammo * r72949 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: oUF_Ammo: make partytargets 1 pixel higher for better backdrop border at my ui scale
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09:51.18vhaarrdurcyn: AuraToChat can do misdirect, btw
09:51.31ravagernllol @ ouf_indicators
09:51.34vhaarrthat's why I made it, actually, because BigBrother had turned into a huge pile of shit
09:52.02vhaarrand I wanted Innervate, Soulstone, Blessing of Protection, and some other auras announced as well
09:52.16vhaarrravagernl: lol indeed
09:52.40[Ammo]at first I retched when reading the code, then I went pale :p
09:52.55nevcairielwhere is that? i want to be scared as well
09:53.00vhaarrhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8874-oUFIndicators.html#info
09:53.05vhaarr[Ammo]: I think we should just remake it
09:53.14[Ammo]maybe, but I'd never use it
09:53.17[Ammo]so you do it :)
09:53.17vhaarryeah
09:53.20vhaarrI would, maybe
09:53.34nevcairielman thats ugly
09:53.37durcynvhaarr: aye, just cleaning up existing functionality, it's using SE-Aura =(
09:53.38[Ammo]yeah
09:54.03vhaarr"usage at own risk, may eat your babies " should be changed to "will eat your babies" in the description
09:54.19nevcairieli just recently wrote a indicator mod for sRF, but sRF already supports showing specific auras etc, so i just configure it to use another display .. i love that feature :)
09:54.26Nandiniwe can rebuild him... we have the technology... better, stronger, faster
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09:54.26nevcairieli only use it for aggro and incoming heal, though
09:54.37Groktari can't imagine what this lock is saying in /g
09:54.48Groktar"guys, i'm being camped by a holy priest..."
09:54.50CIA-4103jerry * r72950 10Links/Links.lua: Links: force load the Blizzard_CombatLog addon to correct a tainting bug. I'm unhappy with this solution.
09:55.06[Ammo]rofl
09:55.16Nandinismite is my favorite skill in the entire game
09:55.30Groktarbt sr gear = best thing EVER
09:55.33ravagernleven with onupdate you should just be able to do it with one iterator
09:55.45[Ammo]I already commented on that ravager :p
09:55.50Nandinii always picture a nun standing over someone with a ruler
09:55.54[Ammo]it can be done without an onupdate as well
09:56.17Nandinithey should definitely add in "nun" as a hero class
09:56.17[Ammo]it's a decent idea, just a bad implementation
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09:57.00Matrix110|Auctioneer giving out errors for every tooltip i look at Oo
09:57.19[Ammo]redirects Matrix110 to #norganna
09:57.29Matrix110|yeye
09:57.30Matrix110|:P
09:57.32Matrix110|but cba
09:57.34Matrix110|i just disable it
09:57.42[Ammo]then don't complain here
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10:01.10Groktarmisdirects brutallus to [Ammo]
10:01.45Nandiniintervenes [Ammo]
10:02.01vithoswhose problem is Skillet?  it's causing WAU to install LibStub
10:02.40Nandinii don't believe skillet is maintained on trunk, some new guy is overhauling it in branches
10:02.41ravagernldependencies ftl
10:02.55vithosah
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10:03.08durcynffs, how hard is it to at least understand not to put libstub in x-embeds, nevermind knowing why
10:03.16vithosgood, it needs overhauling
10:03.20ravagernlwow, was browsing ammo's addons, me like betterinbox :D
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10:04.06Ordogdoes WAU support updating to "stable" versions only yet ?
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10:04.32Nandinithere are no "stable" versions, check a release site instead
10:04.53ravagernlNo and I don think it ever will
10:05.19durcynthere was some flag you could set for WAU to think something was stable, but I've not seen useful documentation
10:05.55Nandinii'm not sure a flag would help much, unless there were an option to filter for it
10:07.32durcyn"for WAU to think something was stable", i.e., it exists in WAU already, it's just not widely used
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10:07.56hastevhaarr: and how would I prevent people from writing bad code?
10:07.58Nandinihow do you filter for that in the UI?
10:08.28durcynNandini: hell if i know, I haven't used it since the ads were implimented last year
10:08.29vhaarrhaste: I was just kidding
10:08.42Nandinime either, i use jWU
10:09.08CartasEasy, Haste.
10:09.24[Ammo]haste: it is your task to strike down any bad coders!
10:09.37hasteI believe you have taken that position [Ammo] :-P
10:09.43[Ammo]no way
10:09.45Cartas[Ammo] is too soft.
10:10.55hasteI usually don't dare to look at the code of the extensions people post :p
10:11.13[Ammo]I do look
10:11.15[Ammo]but damn
10:11.19[Ammo]some of those people are just stupid
10:11.24[Ammo]even the ones that can code
10:12.15Nandinii bathe in the tears of your superfluous opcodes
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10:12.21hasteI feel stupid by my own code all the time tbh :D
10:12.31[Ammo]haste: haha
10:12.48[Ammo]haste: but that's due to mistakes, not plain ignorance :)
10:13.04hasteI have a tendency to write code after parties also
10:13.14hastesometimes the stuff actually works
10:13.19hastebut I can't understand it when I'm sober :p
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10:19.46JaxonGod damn it I'm 15 over hit cap with this new cape.
10:20.20Groktari always cringe when i look at my code
10:20.27Groktareven when it was written while i was sober
10:20.33EllipsisI cringe when I look at your code too
10:20.34Groktarand it works
10:20.34Ellipsis:P
10:20.41Groktaryou've never seen my code!
10:20.47Ellipsisthat's what you think
10:20.51Groktarlol
10:20.54ravagernlwow, what do you people think about spartanui
10:20.54Ellipsis;D
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10:21.17Groktarconsidering i've never written ANYTHING for wow
10:21.24Ellipsispfft
10:21.30Ellipsislike I haven't been all over your hard drive
10:21.33CartasI have XP 32bit and 4GB RAM... would I notice any performance loss if I switched to Vista 64bit? (With respect to gaming, including WoW)
10:21.43Groktarthere's no code on my hard drive!
10:21.53Ellipsisway to miss the innuendo
10:21.56Groktari've been out of school for a year and a half and haven't written anything during that time
10:22.01Nandiniyou seem to be communicating using some sort of 8-bit ascii code right now groktar
10:22.17Ellipsisyay it's a Nandini!
10:22.17Groktarutf 4 lief
10:22.46Nandinihugs Ellipsis
10:22.51Ellipsispurrs
10:23.02Cartaspokes Ellipsis.
10:23.02Nandinihave you escaped your room yet? the one in that building?
10:23.05CartasHow's the addon coming along?
10:23.12durcynravagernl: i think you'll find that very few people in this channel use those silly addon compilations
10:23.31EllipsisI don't dare leave the room, who knows if internets exist outside of it!
10:24.09EllipsisCartas: dunno, how far have you gotten on it? :P
10:24.19Nandinithey have this new invention called a "cell phone"... i hear some of them let you take the internets just about anywhere with you.
10:24.25CartasI've been slacking in my pestering of you, unfortunately.
10:24.29CartasNot much progress has been made!
10:24.42Ellipsissure Nandini, but I don't trust any of those newfangled gadgets
10:24.56Nandinijust think of it as a cute, portable internets
10:25.17Ellipsisbut can it run WoW?
10:25.59ravagernldurcyn: spartanui is not a compilation, it actually is an addon
10:26.04CIA-4103rabbit * r72952 10SimpleBossWhisperer/SimpleBossWhisperer.lua: SimpleBossWhisperer: Don't trigger a "combat ended" until the boss resets.
10:26.05Nandinihmm... i saw one running windows xp, but i doubt it had d3d or opengl support
10:26.06CIA-4103totalpackage * r72951 10Capping/battlegrounds/WSG.lua:
10:26.06CIA-41Capping:
10:26.06CIA-41- fix wsg ?? problem
10:26.20Ellipsisyeah, I think I'll pass :P
10:26.43Nandinii'm sure the 1fps wouldn't be worth it for the minute or two you could play before the battery died
10:27.50Matrix110|almost as good as these "multimedia" Notebooks with integrated BD rom
10:28.01Matrix110|tough luck their battery dies before a 2hr movie is over
10:32.07Groktari saw someone with wow on their blackberry
10:32.16Groktaror
10:32.28Groktarsomeone on vent *claimed* their blackberry could run wow
10:32.59HobbyGroktar: ummmm...no :)
10:33.11Hobbyyou've been had
10:38.38CIA-4103ananhaid * r72953 10MBB/MBB.toc:
10:38.38CIA-41MBB:
10:38.38CIA-41- category fix.
10:38.58vithos~seen anahaid
10:38.59purlvithos: i haven't seen 'anahaid'
10:39.08vithossigh
10:39.33digmousevithos: what happened to ananhaid
10:40.02vithosi don't know, i just wanted to bitch about a MBB bug
10:40.04digmousehe doesnt use this IRC
10:40.26digmouseso what bug? I'll try find him
10:40.48vithoswhen you right click on a minimap button, it sends left+right clicks at the same time
10:42.01digmouseyou mean you click on some addon button, it responds both left and right click?
10:42.07vithosyes
10:42.26vithosso when i right clicked on bigwigs to config something, it killed all my timers during brutallus
10:42.40vithosor trying to open the config for omen hides omen at the same time
10:42.42vithosetc
10:42.59digmouseI gotcha, will tell him this
10:43.24vithosthanks
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10:48.29CIA-4103elkano * r72954 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua locales/enUS.lua): Mendeleev: added an option to disable the icons in the "used in" tree
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10:49.12CIA-4103rabbit * r72955 10CraftyGnome/CraftyGnome.lua: CraftyGnome: Get rid of the translations, use GetSpellInfo instead.
10:52.40ZhinjioAckis: ping
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10:56.02CIA-4103orionshock * r72956 10GuildCraft/GuildCraft_Browser/BrowserUI.lua: GuildCraft: fix bug with SendHyperlinkToChat
10:56.42Kuja^i was using the bantobarreverse texture until now for my addons, but it seems with the last capping update it isn't available anymore in pitbull, i guess i need to copy it into my LSM-2.0 folder then to make it work again? or is there somthing more then that?
10:57.18durcynKuja^: the easiest thing to do is install SharedMedia, iirc it includes that texture, and will register it will all versions of SML/LSM
10:57.39Kuja^ah
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10:58.02durcynactually now that I look, it doesn.  feh.  you'll need to register it yourself unfortunately, though SM's MyMedia.lua is a good way to do so
10:58.51Kuja^okay thanks
11:01.58Zhinjiowow.
11:02.08Zhinjiowow just crashed hard on me. First time in a very long time.
11:02.16Zhinjio"Pure virtual function call", whatever that means
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11:04.47Ordogwell WAU shows UNSTABLE in the update log for everything :)
11:05.06Ordogjust thought it might be actually usefull
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11:17.15digmouseAntiarc:ping
11:17.21digmouse~seen Antiarc
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11:19.59Bruners!rating 2006
11:20.00Xinhuan2006 rating gives 1062(5s), 935(3s) and 807(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
11:20.21digmousewow 2006
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11:24.16CIA-4103ammo * r72957 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: oUF_Ammo: code readability changes
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11:25.29CIA-4103ananhaid * r72958 10Capping/ (Capping.toc locals/localization-zhCN.lua):
11:25.29CIA-41Capping:
11:25.29CIA-41- zhCN update.
11:31.45Kuja^seems that SharedMedia dosn't like me
11:32.15Kuja^i'd add the texture like stated om the instructions but it isn't showing up
11:32.36Zhinjiowhen you new files, don't forget to completely exit wow
11:32.59Kuja^oh, sigh, forgot that, just relogged ^^
11:35.16Kuja^[2008/05/07 13:33:45-725-x1]: SharedMedia-3.0.70014\MyMedia.lua:31: nesting of [[...]] is deprecated near '[' <- uh
11:35.45CIA-4103ammo * r72959 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: oUF_Ammo: more code cleanup/readability
11:35.53evlFORK YOU
11:36.15Hobbythat's not very nice, that's downright evl
11:36.38evl"Stop forking around - Vote Obama"
11:36.42Kuja^i don't want a fork of myself really
11:36.45[Ammo]who's forking what?
11:37.08ZhinjioG'morning, [Ammo]
11:37.09evl[Ammo]: is it an ammo indicator for oUF?
11:37.28[Ammo]evl: a what?
11:37.35[Ammo]that's my layout you silly gnome
11:37.42[Ammo]stop sniffing your armpits
11:37.44evlI refuse to belive it
11:37.47evlI NEED CHANGE
11:38.17Groktarshoots a white castle burger at Kuja^
11:40.16CIA-4103elsia * r72960 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua):
11:40.16CIA-41Recount:
11:40.16CIA-41- Added spell count for damage/dps/heals to upper detail view.
11:40.16CIA-41- Fixed that main window quick icons are properly initialized when copying a profile.
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11:46.35Kuja^durcyn: i just cp'ed the instruction file and removed all the instruction text, then it worked... isn't the text commented out already? :O
11:46.43CIA-4103elsia * r72961 10Recount/Recount.lua:
11:46.43CIA-41Recount:
11:46.43CIA-41- Lengthened minimal combat length for retention. This should prevent critter 1-shots from being stored as separate fight segments.
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11:48.24cncfanaticshello peeps
11:48.35cncfanatics~seen Antiarc
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12:02.28cncfanaticscan anyone tell me what times Antiarc is usualy active ?
12:03.30FtH|Daemona+6 from now
12:04.33cncfanaticsthanks
12:04.41cncfanaticsneeds dewdrop
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12:09.43mikmavhaarr: wabbit
12:09.49vhaarrsup
12:10.04mikmavhaarr: looking for a ss of your ouf raidframes. got any?
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12:10.57vhaarrmikma: http://bmc.grapz.net/images/hez/ouf_rabbit.jpg but it's not recent
12:11.16vhaarrthey look the same but you can tweak some settings to change them now
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12:13.22vhaarr(ignore the rest of the screenshot, the UI is not set up)
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12:16.01Chompersgoatlord
12:16.02Chompersreally?
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12:16.13vhaarrno, it's a friends account
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12:17.00Orionshockdurcyn: ping
12:17.20durcynhm?
12:17.38durcynI didn't do it, I sweawr.
12:17.40durcynswear*
12:19.44vhaarrChompers: I think it's a reference to bill hicks, hence I accept it
12:19.49vhaarrbut I haven't confronted him about it :P
12:20.23Chompers:P
12:21.04Chompersi find it interesting how other people put together their UI
12:21.35Chompersthey're all kinda the same, as if everything has a logical position on thir screen
12:21.40Chompers*their
12:22.01vhaarrthat UI isn't "put together"
12:22.05Orionshockdurcyn: the detection on big brother seems to be limited to ~30 yards...
12:22.09[Ammo]it just 'is' ?
12:22.17vhaarrit's all default settings
12:22.20durcynOrionshock: which detection?
12:22.24vhaarrI think
12:22.25Orionshocksheep breaks..
12:22.33Orionshockmight be a limitation of the combat log / events
12:22.45vhaarrI logged in his account on my computer and played AV to test the unit frames
12:22.57vhaarrif anything looks "set up" it's just a coincidence
12:22.57durcynno, it's a limitation of SpecialEvents-Aura being a colossal piece of shit
12:23.00Gnarfozhmmm
12:23.00Chompersi fail then :<
12:23.18durcynactually cancel that, SpecialEvents entirely is a piece of shit
12:23.34Chompersi thought there was some sort of HCI wizardry going on
12:23.37durcyni've got a branch that uses 2.4 combat log events if you'd like to try it, but it's not done yet
12:23.38Orionshockeh.. why not get rid of SEA?
12:24.20durcynbecause SEA's also used for the buff checks and buff window =(  and then there's rosterlib..
12:24.39Gnarfozin 3 years I've never before had to ask someone to identify an addon by screenshot... but now the time has come... ;D can anyone tell me what addon does the (two) target debuff bars on the middle left (seemingly class filtered) on this screenshot? http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7267/wowscrnshot050108193403es8.jpg
12:24.42Orionshocki take it ur branching and removing deps?
12:24.49durcynthat's the plan
12:25.10KaaosaNECB, Gnarfoz
12:25.46Gnarfozthat's what necb looks like these days? hm. only found pre-2.4 screenshots, and from what I read at curse, the current beta is like... only half or less working
12:26.37Gnarfozbeladona took it over it seems, natur and g3gg0 gave it up, it seems (heh, they themselves only took it over from the Carnival guy, back in the day)
12:26.46KaaosaI don't know anything about how well it works nowadays, but that's either NECB or something made to look like NECB :o
12:27.33Gnarfozlast time I used necb it had rounded bars and stuff, but that was literally ages ago (way before TBC etc etc)
12:27.36ravagernljust use classtimer, imho
12:27.41digmousedefinitely NECB
12:27.53CIA-4103ammo * r72962 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: oUF_Ammo: more cleanup
12:28.02Gnarfozanyway, unless beladona is doing a total rewrite instead of just a revival, I'm not touching NECB with a long long stick ;D
12:28.02digmousein 2.4 some of NECB's feature got broken
12:28.30digmouseI use WitchHunt and NECB
12:28.58Gnarfozravagernl: perhaps... but then I have to get rid of my perfectly tuned, fixed and working CandyDice (which I only use for my own timers, not target debuffs...) hm. maybe I don't need the functionality at all, anyway
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12:30.23GnarfozI've got addons for like everything already ;D
12:31.05Gnarfozwithout lib directories and not counting unpacked LoD stuff, it's about 154 now o_O using tiny addons that do exactly and only one thing but do it good quickly raises that number :D
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12:32.42kenlyricyou should be a man and count those as well
12:32.48kenlyric284. huzzuh!
12:33.56Gnarfozwell, I could just count directories regardless of content, but libs blow the count way up then
12:34.14Gnarfoz272 :\
12:34.23kenlyricI can't find anything else in the game to mod...
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12:35.08ramozbah, only 142
12:35.10Gnarfozmod the login screen or something... heh, is that even possible anymore? way back I used to have modified GlueXML that had my account name hardwired because wow couldn't remember account names on its own
12:37.20SunTsuGnarfoz: Isn't that what's accountname  in config.wtf is for?
12:37.38GnarfozSunTsu: read again what I wrote. :)
12:38.02SunTsuGnarfoz: Ah, OK
12:38.06Gnarfozhehe
12:38.23Gnarfozthat feature got added a pretty long time ago, though, 1.4 or something
12:40.12Ordogis there an addon that shows an item price estimate for farmable goods based on time needed to farm one of those? with customizeable calculation like "include travel to farmspot" "minutes per item" "price per minute" etc ?
12:41.05evlpointless to calculate?
12:41.09evlwhat if you introduce another farmer
12:41.14evlor two farmers, how do you account for that
12:41.41kenlyrichint: nothing is worth farming
12:41.46evlexactly :)
12:41.48kenlyriclet the chinese do it, do a daily
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12:41.55evlatleast not on purpose
12:41.58evlwith very few excetions
12:42.03[Ammo]recipes
12:42.06evlGhostmushrooms being one
12:42.08Ordogwell ... maybe ... its ... fun ? ^^
12:42.19kenlyricBoP items are obviously excluded
12:42.21[Ammo]as much fun as taking your own eye out with a spoon
12:42.25vithosthe closest thing i can think of is NiHao, which shows you your gold/hour based on your auctioneer data
12:42.27kenlyricfun?
12:42.29kenlyricgo back to korea
12:42.49Ordogthere are days when a certain good (primals ..) are certainly overpriced, like 10g per item
12:42.49kenlyricnot even the chinese do it for fun, you sick bastard
12:42.50mikmavhaarr: ok, back. sorry for the afk almost destroyed my keyboard with soda. ok back to raidframes. options to change the scale?
12:43.12Groktari always feel confident on felmyst
12:43.20Groktarwhen guy calling breathes
12:43.21Groktarsays
12:43.24Groktar"we're ok?"
12:43.54vithos"go north... i hope!"
12:43.57CIA-4103zhucc * r72963 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: zhTW update
12:45.51Groktarour best wipe tho
12:45.59Groktarwas when main tank stood too close to breath
12:46.05Groktarand got mc'd at 23%
12:46.26vhaarrmikma: hm no, I haven't added scaling options
12:46.30vhaarrmikma: shouldn't be hard though
12:46.48Gnarfozfelmyst MC's? o_O
12:46.52mikmavhaarr: i really like the "grid" layout for big raids, like bg
12:47.07vhaarrmikma: if you give me 30min I'll add that + get a screenshot of the other way the frames can be configured
12:47.26mikmavhaarr: i'll give you the time you need, because it's your addon ^^
12:48.12Gnarfoz"we need the warp drive back online in 2 hours, mr. laforge!" - "I'll have it ready in 20 minutes. Sir!"
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12:49.27CIA-4103Footrot * r72964 10GhostPulse/Watcher-EnemyCast.lua:
12:49.27CIA-41GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-07
12:49.27CIA-41- Added support for channeled spells for Enemy Cast alerts.
12:49.42mikmavhaarr: and on the other hand, make the raidframes "lite" like ammo did :D (i don't need unitframes, i just need raidframes hehe)
12:50.36vhaarrmikma: just comment out "layout.lua" in the TOC
12:53.16Orionshocklol
12:53.32Orionshockhunter get's MC'ed in ssc, and trys to MD one of the mobs we're killing
12:53.34Orionshock??
12:53.35vhaarrmikma: I can't get a new screenshot now, he's using the account
12:54.01mikmavhaarr: who he
12:54.30vhaarrmikma: Goatlord
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12:54.56vhaarrI just wanted to get a screenshot with REVERSE_STATUSBARS and BANZAI_NAMES set
12:55.00CIA-4103rabbit * r72965 10oUF_Rabbit/ (layout.lua raid.lua): oUF_Rabbit: Some changes to the player/target frames, add scaling options to raid frames.
12:55.04vhaarrand HEALTH_DISPLAY_AS set to "deficit"
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12:56.53vhaarrmikma: scaling added
12:57.27mikmavhaarr: i'll test it soon
12:57.45vhaarrmikma: please give me a screenshot then, I haven't seen it :P
12:58.01mikmaya, after i'll find the oUF core :P
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12:58.28durcynmikma: git://git.ixo.no/oUF.git
12:58.56vhaarrmikma: http://ixo.no/git/oUF.git/snapshot/oUF-master.zip
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13:22.58mikmavhaarr: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_050708_161332.jpg
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13:26.38vhaarrmikma: cool, open raid.lua and tweak the settings at the top there
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13:26.45vhaarrmikma: let me know if you have any questions
13:31.58ramozoh sweet
13:32.02mikmavhaarr: okidoki :) might need to borg it to plain raidframe or something since i can't play with unitframes in that position :D
13:32.10ramozthose raidframes look nice
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13:42.41vhaarrmikma: like I said, just comment out layout.lua in the toc, the raid frames are all in raid.lua
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13:43.51vhaarrmikma: wtb action screenshot of REVERSE_STATUSBARS set to true
13:44.05vhaarrat the top of raid.lua
13:48.08mikmavhaarr: damn you. you need to wait for like, umm, 3h :O in karazhan now
13:48.33mikmavhaarr: but if i edit the stuff out in .toc they get changed when i do svn up
13:48.50vhaarrmikma: no, svn preserves local changes
13:48.58vhaarrif you use WAU, it will overwrite
13:49.32vhaarrmikma: in any case you can just edit raid.lua and do /console reloadui
13:49.41vhaarrto see how that looks
13:49.57vhaarrif you're healing then maybe you want to change HEALTH_DISPLAY_AS to "deficit"
13:50.24vhaarrhaste: seems I'm having some problems with .Auras; http://pastey.net/87387 - http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_050708_161332.jpg
13:50.33vhaarrhaste: take a look at the target frame bottom right
13:50.46vhaarrhaste: according to the .Auras code, it should wrap upwards at 8 buffs or debufsf
13:50.48vhaarrdebuffs*
13:50.51vhaarrhaste: but it wraps up at 9
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13:51.19ramozmm, rabbit, you dont need anything else from oUF_Rabbit to run the raid.lua?
13:51.25vhaarrramoz: no
13:51.32vhaarrwell, some of the files in media/
13:51.34vhaarrbut not layout.lua
13:52.19ramozok
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13:53.50CIA-4103Devfool * r72966 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: frFR update String Entropius missing
13:55.11CIA-4103Balstor * r72967 10LD50_abar/ (. Changes.txt Core.lua LD50_abar.toc embeds.xml):
13:55.11CIA-41LD50_abar:
13:55.11CIA-41- Glanceing blows are now level independent in handling
13:55.11CIA-41- vithos - an error when i do /ld50_abarzcl - embedded dewdroplib
13:55.11CIA-41- Moving to new computer for development.
13:55.31charon~lart forum CMs
13:55.32purlteaches forum CMs the basics, including how to RTM
13:55.35charon"try moving or deleting your WTF, CACHE, and INTERFACE folders out of your World of Warcraft directory. These are temporary cache files that will be recreated by the game the next time you launch." -- http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6286662687&pageNo=1&sid=1#1
13:55.58charoni mean i understand the rationale behind making people delete them, but calling them temporary cache files is just an outright lie
13:56.03vhaarrif you don't count 3rd party addons, he is right you know :P
13:56.07vhaarrthen they are temporary cache files
13:56.24charoneven if you discount 3rd party addons, WTF still holds configs that will get lost
13:56.37vhaarrah, Config.wtf indeed
13:57.39Zyndromethey should tell people to move\delete System32
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13:59.02CIA-4103funkydude * r72968 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: minor bugfix
14:03.00CIA-4103elsia * r72969 10RecountThreat/ (. RecountThreat.toc Threat_Mode.lua embeds.xml):
14:03.00CIA-41RecountThreat:
14:03.00CIA-41- Initial import: This is a threat module for recount
14:03.16Chompers:o
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14:04.00BrunersIs it possible to always show the header text on Omen (Name, TPS, Threat) ? even if there isnt any threat.
14:05.35digmouseRecoutThreat O.o?
14:05.44Funkeh`still need a 'SimpleThread' addon
14:05.48Funkeh`threat
14:05.57digmouseI just hate KTM
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14:07.23[Ammo]i hate omen
14:07.42[Ammo]brings my PC to a halt in any heavy combat situation
14:07.50[Ammo]threat-2.0 standalone works okish
14:07.52jy_i hate threatmeters and epeenmeters
14:08.11SunTsuI hate people who hate everything *ducks an runs away*
14:08.32jy_i hate cold, hate heat
14:08.52jy_rhymes !
14:09.05jy_nearly
14:11.25CIA-4103elsia * r72970 10RecountThreat/ (. embeds.xml):
14:11.25CIA-41RecountThreat:
14:11.25CIA-41- Fixed embeds and svn properties.
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14:14.41CIA-4103durcyn 07dev * r72971 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua BuffWindow.lua localization_frFR.lua): no more RosterLib, still need to merge some annoying overlapping code as a result
14:18.09CIA-4103elsia * r72972 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua):
14:18.09CIA-41Recount:
14:18.09CIA-41- Fixes related to threat module support.
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14:39.34cncfanaticswould anyone have a use of a libstub OO lib ?
14:39.39cncfanaticsif so I'll put mine on wowace
14:40.01[Ammo]not me, OO is so stupidly simple it doesn't require a lib
14:40.23cncfanaticsdepends with what I supose :p
14:40.30cncfanaticsmultiple inheritance & interfaces sure do for me
14:40.40[Ammo]still easy as pie
14:40.52cncfanaticssome 141 lines of code
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14:41.04[Ammo]sounds like too much to me :)
14:41.22[Ammo]but put it on wowace, maybe someone finds a use :)
14:41.32[Ammo]if anything you'll probably get some comments on it
14:41.34nevcairielOO in lua = stupid idea
14:41.52cncfanaticsI wonder how I would have written fb without OO tbh
14:41.55cncfanaticsit would have been a hell
14:42.00durcynif nothing else, send it to kergoth for grins
14:42.05Xinhuanammo, care to profile omen and see which part is taking the most CPU time?
14:42.09nevcairieljust use one metatable for single inheritance, everything else is too much
14:42.19[Ammo]Xinhuan: I can't if I turn on profiling on Omen I get kicked out of the game :(
14:42.24Xinhuano_O
14:42.25[Ammo]that's how bad it lags me
14:42.27cncfanaticsI need something like mixins
14:42.35cncfanaticsneeded*
14:42.35Xinhuanwhen you say lag, you mean FPS drops?
14:42.41[Ammo]yeah to sub 1
14:42.43Xinhuanwhat's the difference with it enabled/disabled
14:42.49cncfanaticsomen = new KTM
14:42.50[Ammo]12 fps -> below 1 fps
14:43.07[Ammo]that's in raid situations ofcourse
14:43.10[Ammo]it works fine in 5 man
14:43.13Xinhuando you have the bar animations disabled?
14:43.16nevcairieli dont have any performance issues with Omen, and profiling it didnt reveal anything either
14:43.25Xinhuanor enabled
14:43.31[Ammo]performance issues start to show on low fps
14:43.40[Ammo]and get worse the lower the fps is
14:43.45cncfanaticsoooh
14:43.49Xinhuancan you try disabling bar animations?
14:43.55[Ammo]I don't have them enabled
14:43.58[Ammo]I hate them
14:43.59cncfanaticsthat might explain why my FPS goes down dramaticly during raids (usualy at 15, but only at 5 when raiding)
14:44.11[Ammo]omen is just being shitty with me :(
14:44.14Xinhuanomen only updates the display once per 0.25 seconds though, throttled
14:44.14nevcairielwell still profiling Omen should show which parts use CPU
14:44.19nevcairieli profiled it a full hyjal
14:44.21nevcairielwith AoE and all
14:44.21durcyn15fps?  buy moar hardware
14:44.22[Ammo]just threat-2.0 lowers fps as well, but works
14:44.23nevcairielnothing
14:44.32[Ammo]durcyn: give more hardware cash :)
14:44.34cncfanaticsdurcyn: no more hardware avail for this comp
14:44.38cncfanaticsagree with [Ammo]
14:44.49Xinhuanso i can't really see anything in omen that would cause fps issues
14:44.58Xinhuanits more threat-2.0 possibly
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14:45.13[Ammo]Xinhuan: with just threat-2.0 its fine
14:45.14Xinhuanunique GUIDs means more data to send/receive
14:45.17[Ammo]with omen its fucked up
14:45.24[Ammo]-> I blame omen
14:45.32Josh_Borke[Ammo]: you're fucked up :-P
14:45.34Xinhuancan you do some debugging?
14:45.39Xinhuanto see what's the issue
14:45.46nevcairielDoes Threat-2.0 calculate TPS if Omen is not active?
14:45.50[Ammo]Xinhuan: I tried profiling it in a 5 man party but couldn't find serious issues
14:45.54[Ammo]nevcairiel: I don't think so
14:45.57Xinhuanfor example, can you load up omen, but comment out certain critical lines
14:45.59Xinhuanin a raid
14:46.01Xinhuan25 man raid
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14:46.10[Ammo]Xinhuan: I don't raid often, raided once this last month :)
14:46.16Josh_Borkewhy should threat calculate TPS, shouldn't that be an omen function?
14:46.19[Ammo]and thought, heck its been a few weeks since omen sucked, try it again
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14:46.30Xinhuanwhat you can do: try commenting out the entire SingleTarget:ArrangeBars() function contents
14:46.31[Ammo]and it dragged my game to a halt again
14:46.33nevcairielJosh_Borke: Threat has all the data, Omen would have to poll that data every time
14:46.39Xinhuanso it just calls a noop function
14:46.50[Ammo]Xinhuan: I could, but not anytime soon
14:47.12nevcairielI'll run a Expo on todays raid, 4 hours of data should show which parts use the most cpu
14:47.33[Ammo]nevcairiel: run one on Omen and Threat-2.0
14:47.37Xinhuannevcairiel, omen registers a ThreatUpdated callback with threat-2.0 so it only updates omen on every event, then onscreen updates are throttled to every 0.25 sec
14:47.50nevcairielHow do i remove a element from a java array with element-down-shift? <.<
14:48.32nevcairielcustom code, i suppose?
14:48.40Xinhuanyes
14:48.45[Ammo]unless they support pop and shift etc
14:48.56ckknightno, not in standard arrays, they do in ArrayList, though
14:49.20nevcairielI can only work with the data structures i have =P
14:49.20Xinhuanfor (int i = start; i < num-1; i++) array[i] = array[i+1]
14:49.21Xinhuan;p
14:49.25nevcairieloh well custom code
14:49.31nevcairielyeah i know its easy :p
14:49.49[Ammo]anyway, I hope someone can fix the Omen/Threat issues
14:49.57[Ammo]because its just not playable on slightly shitty hardware
14:50.03Xinhuancan't fix it if we don't know what the problem is ~_~
14:50.12Xinhuanthat's why we need you to do it
14:50.14[Ammo]and I can't figure out the problem due to being unable to act :)
14:50.19[Ammo]it just freezes
14:50.26[Ammo]remove Omen, and its fine
14:50.27Xinhuani told you, comment out certain critical update sections
14:50.30[Ammo]I know
14:50.35[Ammo]and I dug in the code already
14:50.35XinhuanArrangeBars()
14:50.36[Ammo]on the WHY
14:50.52Bruners[Ammo]: its omen that does that?
14:50.58[Ammo]it is for me
14:51.05[Ammo]or it's omen triggering certain threat-2.0 features
14:51.11[Ammo]that mess up my fps
14:51.40Brunersi have had that alot lately
14:51.51Xinhuanmight be the TPS updates that is kiling you
14:52.01Xinhuanhave you tried a different mode
14:52.03Xinhuansay, AOE mode
14:52.07[Ammo]yeah
14:52.09[Ammo]no effect
14:52.11nevcairielAOE mode even kills more :P
14:52.14[Ammo]indeed
14:52.16Brunersbut it seem to be fine if i stop doing stuff when it happends
14:52.16[Ammo]it rapes
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14:54.00Xinhuanonly suggestion is to comment out say, the CheckWarn() function
14:54.04Xinhuanand possibly the TPS update code
14:54.10Xinhuanand see if it still lags that badly
14:54.11[Ammo]I don't care much for tps
14:54.14[Ammo]so yeah
14:54.15[Ammo]I will try that
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14:54.29[Ammo]main gripe is that omen is hardly simple
14:54.45[Ammo]so kinda hard to fix :)
14:54.51Xinhuani know the code in omen pretty much inside out now
14:54.58Xinhuanevery module, and core
14:55.20nevcairielThe singletarget module is rather easy to understand, i mostly bothered with it :p
14:55.21[Ammo]does omen enable tps in threat?
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14:56.20XinhuanThreat:GetTPS(my_guid, target_guid)
14:56.23Xinhuanis the function
14:56.26Xinhuanthat gets tps
14:56.33Xinhuanits calculated in threat-2.0 (not omen)
14:56.36nevcairielnop TPS calculation is always on
14:56.41[Ammo]ok
14:56.44Xinhuanand its "always on"
14:56.47[Ammo]doesn't explain my problem
14:56.52[Ammo]but fuck that calculation :p
14:56.54nevcairielits event-based though
14:56.57nevcairielnot polling
14:57.01[Ammo]hmmm
14:57.15Xinhuanwell, you're going to have to comment out functions until you hit the problem
14:57.24[Ammo]yeah
14:57.30Xinhuanmaybe turn off the Autocollapse option
14:57.38Xinhuanand see if that helps
14:57.59[Ammo]it wasn't on afaik
14:58.03[Ammo]but will do
14:58.10nevcairielautocollapse is stupid :P
14:58.50Xinhuannot really, i use it
14:59.04Xinhuani don't use eepanels for nice pretty boxes
14:59.16Xinhuanso omen is just hanging below my party frames and grows/shrinks as needed
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15:00.02nevcairielin raids its fully expanded for me anyway
15:00.10XinhuanArrangeBars() only gets called once per 0.25s, so i don't think that's the problem hmm
15:00.13nevcairieland i dont want it jumping up/down when i switch trargets
15:00.19[Ammo]tps shouldn't be the problem either
15:00.25[Ammo]since its indeed event based
15:00.49nevcairielwell Omen polls the TPS from Threat-2.0
15:00.54nevcairielbut you can configure that poll interval
15:00.57nevcairielup to 2 seconds
15:00.58nevcairieli think
15:01.10vhaarryeah I set it up to 2 seconds
15:01.13nevcairiel5 seconds even
15:01.16vhaarrand I disabled the TPS column
15:01.36Xinhuanwhy does Omen use a ConvertToK[] table
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15:01.51Xinhuanit grows over time, that would explain the "memory leak"
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15:02.08nevcairielwhats ConvertToK?
15:02.15Xinhuancheck bar.lua
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15:02.21vhaarrprobably 1000 -> 1k
15:02.27Xinhuanand search for htat word
15:02.44nevcairieloh there
15:02.45nevcairielhm
15:02.47Xinhuanits converting every threat value to a string version, caching it
15:02.50Xinhuanand never gets GCed
15:03.08nevcairielits probably more efficient to call fmt() directly
15:03.10Xinhuanstanzilla mentioned omen using up to 4.2 mb ram over a brutallus raid
15:03.15cncfanaticslol
15:03.17cncfanaticswhy is it doing that ?
15:03.22Xinhuanbut i couldn't even get omen to use over 1.2 mb
15:03.22[Ammo]because it's being shitty atm :p
15:03.34Xinhuani ran it over a 4 hours BT raid
15:03.38cncfanaticsits reminding me of KTM
15:04.12Xinhuanthe thing is that a lot of the functions in the 4 modules are prototyped to bar.lua
15:04.17Xinhuanso its a lot of extra function overhead
15:04.27Xinhuanfunction call
15:04.28[Ammo]the whole :GetOption() drek is shit as well
15:04.36[Ammo]lots and lots of function calls for simple shit
15:04.49Xinhuanya, it caused bugs, i had to reset his memoization table at certain places
15:05.02Xinhuanbut at least that part isn't called/accessed much
15:05.12[Ammo]maybe I should just write my Violation threat module again
15:05.16Xinhuanor maybe it is
15:05.29cncfanatics[Ammo]: I usualy use the pitbull threat module as a rogue
15:05.29[Ammo]and ignore omen, although I liked the AoE mode
15:05.31cncfanaticsit works fine
15:05.43[Ammo]pitbull is DUF but then on wowace :p
15:05.55cncfanaticstrue :p
15:06.07SunTsucncfanatics: For me it does sometimes, sometimes it does not. Sometimes my pet's aggro just freezes
15:06.12CIA-4103nevcairiel * r72973 10Omen/Bar.lua: Omen: dont cache every single threat value in a endlessly growing table, just do the calc directly
15:06.13nevcairielXinhuan: my last profiling didnt really show much issues there
15:06.14cncfanaticssteal the threeat module and stick it to your unitframe ?
15:06.18Xinhuanself:GetOption("MyBar.UseCustomColor")
15:06.25Xinhuani dunno, something like this can be upvalued
15:06.33Xinhuanso now, its turned into a table function call
15:06.39Xinhuanwhich then calls a __index function
15:06.47Xinhuanwhich recurses over Mybar.blah
15:07.03Xinhuanwhich is using strsplit at each recursion stage
15:07.10cncfanaticsnice nice
15:07.16cncfanaticshowto: go slowly
15:07.30Xinhuanbut its cached it only happens once
15:07.33nevcairielstill :GetOption didnt really show up in the profiling
15:07.35Xinhuanthat's why its an __index function
15:08.04Xinhuanwhat showed up in the profiling?
15:08.32nevcairieltps and arrangebars, obviously, but not really high
15:08.48nevcairielgoing to do it again today
15:08.52Xinhuanok so those 2 parts will be something for ammo to start with then
15:08.58[Ammo]yeah
15:08.59Xinhuancomment out tps update and arrange bar update
15:09.07[Ammo]but make sure you get threat-2.0 in your profile as well
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15:09.44nevcairielyeah omen even exports a global symbol for profiling .)
15:09.46nevcairieler
15:09.48nevcairielthreat-2.0
15:09.49nevcairieli meant
15:10.31Xinhuanthat global symbol was removed ;p
15:11.09nevcairiel_G.ThreatLibProfile = ThreatLib
15:11.11nevcairielstill there
15:11.24Xinhuanhmm, i thought its removed oh well
15:11.40cncfanaticswouldn't that get the exact same thing as LibStub("Threat-2.0"); ?
15:11.51nevcairielsure
15:11.58nevcairielbut Expo doesnt like stuff that it needs to execute first
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15:13.08cncfanaticstrue
15:14.05Elsiamaybe /script Threat=LibStub("Threat-2.0") and feed that to expo? ;)
15:15.32nevcairielthat breaks on relog again
15:15.40nevcairielexpo expects the symbol to be there on login
15:15.54nevcairielso yeah, i just hackup the code to add a global, or hope that it has one already :D
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15:17.39ravagernlwhatΓ…Β› expo?
15:17.44ravagernl~expo
15:17.45purlmethinks expo is Linux Expo - see linuxexpo.com
15:17.55Elsia~slap purl
15:17.55purlACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
15:18.37Elsiaexpo is a detailed profiler, that gives you memory alloc and cpu per function call within a namespace
15:18.44Elsiaamong other things
15:18.48[Ammo]it's pretty awesome
15:18.59cncfanaticssexy
15:19.00Elsiait the only reason why I keep reinstalling ace2 :P
15:19.10Elsiagief agnostic expo :D
15:19.11cncfanaticsthat should be framework less tbh
15:19.20cncfanaticsdoes it check tables recursivly ?
15:19.24nevcairieldoesnt matter which framework it uses
15:19.35cncfanaticsit does for profiling frameworks
15:19.42nevcairielnot really, no
15:19.43cncfanaticscan't profile Ace2 with it if it uses Ace2 ?
15:19.50nevcairielsure, why not?
15:19.50cncfanaticsit'd affect the profiling normaly
15:20.03nevcairielprofiling always affects the profiling
15:20.18Elsiathere isn't much point to profiling ace2 now I think though
15:20.20[Ammo]gogogo kenco!
15:20.25nevcairielquantam mechanics, people! Watching something already changes its outcome!
15:20.27vhaarrthis reminds me of when the KTM author argued in favor of his profiling code
15:20.29vhaarrlol ammo
15:20.33[Ammo]hehe
15:20.37[Ammo]great minds eh rabbit
15:20.41vhaarrindeed
15:21.36cncfanaticsanyone knows if Antiarc is activly working on his dropdown lib ?
15:21.40cncfanaticsif not I will, as I need one
15:21.58Elsiayou need anything nonstandard?
15:22.00[Ammo]use EasyMenu
15:22.06[Ammo]pewpew
15:22.17vhaarrcncfanatics: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/CraftyGnome/CraftyGnome.lua uses EasyMenu
15:22.18[Ammo]its pretty damn simple
15:22.23cncfanaticsno editboxes
15:22.24cncfanaticsno sliders
15:22.31[Ammo]they don't belong in a dropdown menu
15:22.45cncfanaticssays you :p
15:22.58cncfanaticsif I want them to it should be up to me
15:22.59[Ammo]says probably every sane UI person
15:23.09cncfanaticsdepends for what
15:23.16nevcairielNothing here is up to you anymore
15:23.21cncfanaticsI want config dropdowns to appear when right clicking buttons in fb
15:23.27cncfanaticsand they'd contain editboxes and sliders yes
15:23.38[Ammo]good luck :)
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15:23.47[Ammo]you can still use Dewdrop
15:23.50nevcairielsliders i could probably accept, but editboxes in dropdowns are just plain ugly
15:23.51[Ammo]it only needs AceLib
15:24.08cncfanaticsI'll prolly write something minimal
15:24.28vhaarrdewdrop works fine
15:24.34nevcairielgood luck with minimal dropdowns that do everything :p
15:25.01cncfanaticsmmmm
15:25.17cncfanaticsdoes dewdrop exclusivly use configtables ?
15:25.19cncfanaticsor is the api fine ?
15:25.23[Ammo]you can use the api
15:25.28nevcairielthe api sucks, but its there :)
15:25.42CIA-4103StiviS * r72974 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
15:25.42CIA-41Babble-2.2:
15:25.42CIA-41- Tradeskill: esES updated
15:25.42CIA-41- Trainer: esES updated
15:25.45vhaarrwhat's wrong with using a config table :P
15:25.54vhaarrhere's the answer: nothing
15:25.57cncfanaticsnot true
15:26.08cncfanaticsI can't have every module add its own little part in the dropdown cleanly with config tables
15:26.14nevcairielsure you can
15:26.18[Ammo]boggle?!
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15:26.28[Ammo]fix your config table then?
15:26.35nevcairielconfig tables have always been dynamic
15:26.43cncfanaticsmmmm, I just don't like them :p
15:26.56cncfanaticsseems such a waste of memory to have big table constructs to me
15:26.57[Ammo]haha
15:27.18cncfanatics(just trying to find arguments as to why I don't like them, as there really ain't a reason)
15:27.59nevcairielyou will probably end up with tables of your own or callback functions if you use the dewdrop api
15:28.22[Ammo]hehe
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15:28.47vhaarrif you don't want to use a AceOptions table because you hate Ace2, you can use dew:FeedTable as well
15:28.57vhaarrwhich accepts a simpler table format
15:29.14[Ammo]time to go home for food
15:29.15[Ammo]later
15:29.18CIA-4103StiviS * r72975 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:
15:29.18CIA-41LibBabble-Zone-3.0:
15:29.18CIA-41- Added nil check to fix warn error in empty strings translations
15:29.41Elsiawhat's an empty string translation?
15:29.44Fisker-i'm destroying you
15:29.54ElsiaL[""]="" ?
15:30.59cncfanaticsI don't hate ace2
15:31.21Fisker-can you have a x64 guest operating system in Virtual PC?
15:31.25Silverstormgot a debugging question.  I'm workin on a new dot timer, and using AceTimer as part of it.  Occasionally, I'll get the AceTimer error saying timer xxx doesn't exist.  It's quite rare now, and I know I can do a silent cancel, but I'd like to understand exactly where the error came from.  Is using pcall the best way to "catch" the error and print more info?
15:31.29Fisker-I'm running Windows XP x64 of course
15:31.37vhaarrare you sure? it's quite popular to hate it now, it's very "in"
15:31.39nevcairielFisker-: if your host is 64bit, sure
15:31.41cncfanaticsSilverstorm: bugsack
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15:31.55ElsiaSilverstorm: you get the error on CancelTimer() I assume
15:31.57Silverstormcncfanatics: not good enough, I need to print my own info
15:31.57cncfanaticsvhaarr: why would I hate something I used for so long ? :p
15:32.07vhaarrcncfanatics: because it's in!
15:32.09SilverstormElsia: yes, on canceltimer
15:32.12cncfanaticsvhaarr: /care
15:32.17vhaarr:P
15:32.18cncfanatics~carebucket
15:32.23nevcairielSilverstorm: you probably try to cancel a timer that already expired
15:32.24Elsiahad the same, it seems to you get the error if the timer already fired
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15:33.12nevcairielI suggest storing the timer handles in a simple table, and nil the handle in your Fire callback
15:33.23nevcairielthen before unregistering, check if the handle is still valid ;)
15:33.26cncfanatics~literal slap
15:33.35nevcairiel~factoid slap
15:33.36purlACTION gives slap a cup of trinitrotoluene
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15:33.45nevcairiel~slap cncfanatics
15:33.46purlACTION slaps cncfanatics, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
15:34.00cncfanatics~whaleparry nevcairiel
15:34.00purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry nevcairiel's attacks.
15:34.12Silverstormlemme put up a pastey of the relevant parts, it'll be easier than explaining
15:34.28ElsiaSilverstorm: I think nev basically gave the answer you likely need
15:34.41Silverstormyes, but I do that already :-p
15:34.46Elsiaoh i see
15:34.51Silverstormthat's why I'm puzzled
15:35.08Elsiagief pastey, with orange juice please
15:35.43vhaarris StiviS here?
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15:36.36CIA-4103Vig * r72976 10AssignAssist/ (6 files):
15:36.36CIA-41AssignAssist:
15:36.36CIA-41- versionized the com interface, including commands
15:36.36CIA-41- tried to make gui better, i am crap at it, still sucks...
15:36.36CIA-41- restructered the oo classes to be more generic
15:36.37CIA-41- applied colors on buttons according to type of unit
15:37.40SilverstormElsia, nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/87388
15:38.38SilverstormI get the error on line 51 and line 88 of that pastey.  Line 51, I think I understand why.  Line 88, I don't
15:39.25ElsiaSilverstorm: you don't need to cancel the timer within the timer callback I think, just nil out the handle you get from ScheduleTimer()
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15:40.54SilverstormElsia: basic combat flow is UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED, CLEU:SPELL_AURA_APPLIED.  So I schedule the timer in case the SAA event doesn't fire, and cancel if I process SAA before the timer goes off
15:40.55nevcairielElsia: he only cancels it in a specific case that doesnt invoke a timer
15:41.22CIA-4103Vig * r72977 10AssignAssist/ (AssignAssist.lua todo.txt):
15:41.22CIA-41AssignAssist:
15:41.22CIA-41- versionized the com interface, including commands
15:41.22CIA-41- tried to make gui better, i am crap at it, still sucks...
15:41.22CIA-41- restructered the oo classes to be more generic
15:41.23CIA-41- applied colors on buttons according to type of unit
15:42.02CIA-4103rabbit * r72978 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: Revert StiviS' commit.
15:42.06Elsiacan multiple timers for the same spell name be up?
15:42.26Elsiai.e. two dots cast in succession
15:42.32Silverstormthey shouldn't be able to, I can only cast one spell at a time :-p
15:42.46Silverstormtimer should be cancelled on SPELL_CAST_FAILED
15:42.51Elsiai see 1 second on timer
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15:42.58nevcairielwhich of your cancel timers creates the error?
15:43.25Silverstormline 51 and line 88 both caused an error once last night in about 30-45 minutes of BT trash + Mother kill
15:43.56Elsiawell it could be that the _FAILED event is delayed due to lag and arrives after 1 second
15:44.00Elsiathat's explain one of the two
15:44.19nevcairielstill the reference should be nil'ed out
15:44.24nevcairieland not even reach it
15:44.25Elsiatrue
15:44.32Silverstormright
15:45.35nevcairielI dont get it, shouldnt be possible
15:45.49Silverstormjoin the club :-p
15:46.07nevcairielevery cancel has a if check and a nil'ing the reference
15:46.24SilverstormI wish I had a larger sample period, but I was fixing other bugs during the first 3 hours of the raid
15:46.40Silverstormthat's why I'm asking how I can "catch" the error and print more info
15:46.42nevcairielI dont suppose your addon actually invokes its OnDisable in the middle of the fight?
15:46.57Silverstormlol, it doesn't have OnDisable yet
15:46.57nevcairielthat would unregister timers too
15:47.22Elsiazoning maybe?
15:47.48Silverstormwait...if I do /rl, will that recreate all my variables or not?
15:47.54nevcairielyea it does
15:47.59dylanmEverything gets run again.
15:47.59Silverstormok, then it wasn't that
15:48.20nevcairielYou dont call :Disable() on your addon at all i guess?
15:48.31Silverstormnope, there's no function to handle that yet
15:48.47Silverstormit's always on
15:48.55nevcairielOr use other timers that might not have this checks and leave some table references in the wild?
15:49.01Elsiaer the _FAILED code makes no sense, if you got a _SUCCESS you'll never get a _FAILED for the same spell
15:49.43nevcairielhm wait, my last line didnt make sense
15:49.43Elsiabut that's not the bug, just wondering why you even have that cancel for _FAILED in the first place
15:49.45nevcairielthat cannot happen
15:53.05Silverstormhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Spell says UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED is fired even upon resist, since that starts a timer, SPELL_MISSED has to cancel it.  Maybe I don't need SPELL_CAST_FAILED, but I do need that code
15:55.03Elsiahmm
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15:55.48CIA-4103Vig * r72979 10AssignAssist/ (AssignAssist.lua AssignAssistUI.lua):
15:55.48CIA-41AssignAssist:
15:55.48CIA-41- commented debug statements
15:56.52Elsiabasically the only time you do not want to cancel is if you see an AURA_APPLIED as well, right?
15:57.08Elsiaer I got that wrong
15:57.25Silverstormthe only times I want to cancel are
15:57.36Silverstorm1) SAA fires before the timer goes off
15:57.48Silverstorm2) Spell was resisted or otherwise not successful
15:58.34Silviu-nevcariel
15:58.38Silviu-U bad boy :(
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15:58.54Elsiawhy not just fire a timer, check if SAA arrived, if yes, call CreateBar? seems simpler logic to me or am I missing something?
15:59.01Silviu-Now Omen spams me with errors ;p
15:59.05Elsiathat way you don't ever need to cancel a timer
15:59.41Silviu-nevcairiel http://ace.pastey.net/87389
16:00.23Elsiai.e. fire a timer to something else than CreateBar, but rather a function that checks after it expired if SSA has arrived.
16:00.27Silviu-nevcairiel http://ace.pastey.net/87390
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16:00.36Silviu-nevcairiel need more ? ;-)
16:00.36Silverstormthat would probably work, but having CreateBar called from SAA is more responsive, which while it isn't critical, is nice
16:01.12CIA-4103nevcairiel * r72980 10Omen/Bar.lua: Omen: why was this file still locally changed with that fix? <.<
16:01.15Elsiano what I mean is you create bar as SSA arrives, the timer just checks if it did.
16:01.42CIA-4103StiviS * r72981 10Cartographer/Cartographer_Professions/Professions.lua:
16:01.42CIA-41Cartographer:
16:01.42CIA-41- Professions: esES updated
16:02.15Elsiabasically you only want a bar created if a got an aura applied right?
16:02.23Silverstormright
16:02.59Elsiaand you want to link spell_cast_success source info to it?
16:03.04Xinhuannevcairiel, whats that last omen commit about
16:03.04Silverstormso you're saying create the bar, and have the timers I'm firing check whether the bar was created?  if not, go create it?
16:03.23Elsiathat's a possibility
16:03.36Elsiastrictly speaking that should never happen though :P
16:03.41nevcairielXinhuan: that error Silviu- posted
16:03.49Xinhuanoh
16:03.54Xinhuanmust be your fault
16:04.00nevcairielyeah it was
16:04.01Xinhuan:D
16:04.12nevcairieli bet i didnt save the file after doing that change and commiting
16:04.20Silviu-:P
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16:04.28Elsiahehe
16:05.07Xinhuancould have mentioned i found that "memory leak" ;p
16:05.14Silverstormwell, I have to pull source info from either unit_spellcast_succeeded or spell_cast_success, and only if those events happen to the player, do I want to create a bar when SAA arrives
16:05.17Xinhuanalthough its technically not a leak
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16:05.37Silviu-But practically ? ;)
16:05.49SunTsuAm memory hog ;)
16:05.55SunTsus/Am/A/
16:06.31Xinhuanby design it was meant to cache stuff, but practically, its just using more memory over time
16:06.31ElsiaSilverstorm: exactly. so use the timer to decide when there will be no matching SAA coming. If an SAA comes just fire a bar from existing prior _SUCCESS events within a time window.
16:06.53Xinhuanbecause the cached stuff is highly unlikely to be ever reused again
16:06.59Xinhuanunless you had the same exact threat value
16:07.01Elsiano need to ever cancel any timers as the one you use is to keep track if a matching SAA arrived.
16:07.39Elsiaanyway gotta run for dinner
16:08.05Silverstormhehe, EU...I gotta run to work :-p
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16:20.14CIA-4103gamefaq * r72982 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: deDE Update
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16:22.08CIA-4103StiviS * r72983 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/ (Cartographer_nnTrainers.toc embeds.xml nnTrainers.lua):
16:22.08CIA-41Cartographer_nnTrainers:
16:22.08CIA-41- Improved auto select of filter trainers. Now correctly selects all types instructors available for the player.
16:22.08CIA-41- Cleaned some localization strings to use library strings.
16:22.08CIA-41- LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0 Added
16:22.10CIA-41- LibBabble-Inventory-3.0 Added
16:22.14CIA-41- Babble-Trainer-2.2 Added
16:24.45Elsia:P
16:27.43CIA-4103jjsheets * r72984 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua:
16:27.43CIA-41ButtonFacade:
16:27.43CIA-41<PROTECTED>
16:28.52Brunersanyone remember the link to the cartographer 3 preview video?
16:29.19CIA-4103elkano * r72985 10FuBar_FactionsFu/ (Libs/ Locales/FuBar_FactionsFu.deDE.lua embeds.xml): FuBar_FactionsFu: some fixes and cleanups
16:29.50Stanzilla~cartographer3
16:29.51purlrumour has it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
16:29.54Stanzillathere :)
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16:34.42CIA-4103StiviS * r72986 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (Cartographer_Trainers.toc addon.lua embeds.xml import.lua): (log message trimmed)
16:34.43CIA-41Cartographer_Trainers:
16:34.43CIA-41- Babble-Zone-2.2 -> Bable-Zone-3.0
16:34.43CIA-41- Babble-Faction-3.0 Added
16:34.43CIA-41- Babble-Inventory-3.0 Added
16:34.44CIA-41- Babble-CreatureType-3.0 Added
16:34.48CIA-41- import.lua: esES added & 'Faction' data localized
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16:38.33CIA-4103rabbit * r72987 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Stop creating one color table per player.
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16:39.17CIA-4103StiviS * r72988 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (Cartographer_Vendors.toc addon.lua embeds.xml import.lua): (log message trimmed)
16:39.17CIA-41Cartographer_Vendors:
16:39.17CIA-41- Babble-Zone-2.2 -> Bable-Zone-3.0
16:39.17CIA-41- Babble-Faction-3.0 Added
16:39.17CIA-41- import.lua: esES added & 'Faction' data localized
16:39.19CIA-41- addon.lua:
16:39.21CIA-41-- esES updated
16:42.33chipergrins. http://gallery.chipersoft.com/v/WoW/gnomeHunter2.jpg.html
16:43.04CIA-4103funkydude * r72989 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: fixup humanoid timers
16:44.13Fisker-keylogger
16:44.16CIA-4103phyber * r72990 10Fence/ (Fence.toc modules/Fence_Sort.lua):
16:44.16CIA-41Fence:
16:44.16CIA-41- Sorting on Buyout is back.
16:44.16CIA-41- Name and Buyout sort now do 'real' sorts instead of only sorting the current page.
16:44.16CIA-41- Bumped TOC.
16:44.27chipero.O
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16:53.01CIA-4103elsia * r72991 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua:
16:53.01CIA-41Recount:
16:53.01CIA-41- Tweaking of layout of details count view in upper detail list.
16:53.01CIA-41- Fixed scroll bar of detail lists to fit inside the window again.
16:54.11haste/r/ comedy movie D:
16:54.22phyberOffice Space
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16:56.22CIA-4103StiviS * r72992 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
16:56.22CIA-41FuBar_TrainerFu:
16:56.22CIA-41- Babble-Spell-2.2 removed. Now use GetSpellInfo.
16:56.22CIA-41- Babble-Spell 3.0 added
16:56.22CIA-41- Babble-Trainer-2.2 added
16:56.23CIA-41- Babble-Class-3.0 added
16:56.25CIA-41- Babble-CreatureType-3.0 added
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17:00.28Funkeh`what the hell
17:00.34Funkeh`babble spell removed now use getspellinfo
17:00.37Funkeh`babble spell added
17:00.40Funkeh`huh?
17:00.57nevcairielstivis r smart
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17:01.24Lukianwhy isn't babblespell 3.0 just a wrapper for getspellinfo? :D
17:01.56Funkeh`because you can't use names unless you know the spell
17:03.15Fisker-i am installing software
17:03.15Fisker-rawr
17:03.34Fisker-bet none of you can do that
17:03.50Funkeh`thanks for your password
17:04.00LukianFisker-, no I can't do it :( My OS does it for me
17:04.30Fisker-:(
17:04.56Fisker-hmm
17:05.14Fisker-why does Visual Studio need to take up 300MB on a non-system drive i'm not installing it on? :o
17:05.40Funkeh`help files incase you get lost
17:05.42Matrix110|like Office does?
17:06.00Funkeh`if you loose them on C, you got them on D also!
17:06.03Fisker-"The visual studio that you seek is not here"
17:06.03Fisker-:o
17:06.13Matrix110|its kinda annoying this MSOCache folder created from Office
17:06.15Fisker-"I'm sorry but Visual Studio is in another castle"
17:06.16Fisker-;_;
17:06.20Lukiansudo aptitude install pingus
17:06.27Fisker-sudo is for fgts
17:06.43LukianI don't like running as root :p
17:06.44Funkeh`Fisker-, guess you're using it?
17:06.46Fisker-man
17:06.54Fisker-isn't that the same install pictures for 2005?
17:06.58Fisker-AND I'M PAYING FOR THIS?!
17:07.12Matrix110|you are paying for it?:P
17:07.22Matrix110|I get it for free from Uni
17:07.24Fisker-technically yes, pratically no
17:07.27Fisker-same
17:07.36Fisker-but the university pays for it :)
17:07.44Matrix110|do they?
17:07.54Fisker-well ours do :P
17:07.59Matrix110|(I got no clue how MSDNA license work)
17:08.21Fisker-I'm pretty sure they pay for it
17:08.31Fisker-you're not allowed to use it commercially though
17:08.34Matrix110|I actually think they dont
17:08.46Matrix110|but iam not sure
17:09.25Matrix110|People using Visual Studio and being familiar with it might want to use it later aswell when they got work
17:09.53Matrix110|and because Office isnt in the MSDNA I think aswell that they dont pay for it
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17:10.40Fisker-i should get a vista key
17:10.46Fisker-in case microsoft fix their loopholes
17:10.56Matrix110|ah
17:11.01Matrix110|they pay for it
17:11.03Matrix110|but not much
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17:11.47Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3779202117&sid=1#11 <-LOLWHAT
17:12.14Matrix110|1-year (media shipment + online)$799
17:12.16Matrix110|super cheap
17:12.32Matrix110|1-year (online only)$499
17:14.17Fisker-ooh
17:14.20Fisker-dns propogated
17:14.57Brunersgot to say i like new way of binding keys with bartender4
17:19.56CIA-4103funkydude * r72993 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: boss death fix
17:21.10luxusBruners: what a new way?
17:22.51Brunersluxus: might not be new, but hovering the button with your mouse and press the key you want to bind to that button
17:23.07CIA-4103rabbit * r72994 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Show proper channel colors in the report menu and hide channels you can't report to.
17:23.27vhaarrnev got it from Bongos with permission from tuller
17:23.32vhaarrit's new in bongos3 I think
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17:23.53luxusyeah i just know it from bongos
17:24.09NivFreakanything major broken in BT4?
17:24.19NivFreakI've been tempted to give it a shot for a while
17:24.24Vulcanusding 1 GB in WAU :D
17:24.26luxusbut it don't work for me.. do i have activate a buttonsetting mode or something?
17:24.41Brunersi got an extra button bar with fucked up buttons, but thats all
17:25.40luxusah i found it in the FAQ
17:25.57Brunershttp://ui.ipwn.se/i/211.jpg <- the bar on the upper left corner
17:26.17Fisker-why don't you disable it?
17:26.31VulcanusBecause that would make sense
17:26.31VulcanusXD
17:26.37Brunersit cant be disabled
17:26.41Fisker-sure?
17:26.44Brunersyes
17:26.46Vulcanusoh :(
17:26.49Fisker-i disagree
17:26.54Brunersdo you think i want it there?:P
17:26.57Ailaeisn't that the ButtonFacade testbar?
17:27.15Brunersmaby it is :P
17:27.43luxusdoes anyone compare bt4 and bongos3 cpu wise?
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17:29.35Lukianluxus, that'd be a little hard to do unless you did exactly the same thing in two wow sessions :p
17:29.43CIA-4103funkydude * r72995 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: Dark Fiend spawn alerts by tsigo
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17:31.06[Liq]Hi everyone :-)
17:32.37CIA-4103funkydude * r72996 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: typo
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17:36.35dylanmluxus: They're both written pretty well. Bongos may show a little more churn if the buff/debuff checking is on but we're talking good authors here.
17:37.15luxusthe buff checking is for the nice glowing buttons when i spell is active right? :D
17:37.23dylanmYessir.
17:37.39luxusok and thats the only thing i miss in bt4
17:38.28luxusi like the bar configuration in bt4
17:38.43luxusthe bongos 3 is a littlebit confusing
17:38.53dylanmIs it like the old way? I love the Bongos thing.
17:39.59dylanmActually, the B3 button updating shouldn't be bad. I thought for some reason that he was doing an OnUpdate for that but that makes no sense.
17:42.23luxusdylanm: i just notice some cpu jumps with b3 that i don't have with bt4. perhaps it came from the buff checking
17:42.52dylanmHave you done any hard profiling with Expo or anything?
17:43.40Matrix110|hmm
17:43.58Matrix110|some mod is missplacing the number of stacks on buffs for me
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17:50.58NivFreakso wtf is with druid gear in t6
17:51.06NivFreakno non-t6 leather has defense
17:51.09NivFreakvery little has added armor
17:51.12NivFreakdo they just assume druids are def and armor capped?
17:51.16NivFreakdoes t6 provide enough of both?
17:52.25nevcairielt6 provides alot of armor
17:52.26nevcairielno def
17:52.35HjalteElsia: Recount is acting strangely. I've set Data Deletion to only ask to delete new data on New Raid, however, I always get a pop up box asking me if I want to reset the data 1-2 minutes after entering Black Temple.
17:52.37NivFreakso where do they get thier def?
17:52.51NivFreakand should the just be rolling on most leather dps bits?
17:52.55nevcairielrings, trinkets, amuletts
17:52.56Psycho|WorkRings, capes, necks, etc. from what I've seen. But I admit I haven't looked at it much.
17:52.57nevcairielgems
17:53.02ElsiaHjalte: yeah I noticed the same last raid, still haven'
17:53.12Elsiat tracked down why, the event can't be that delayed reall
17:53.14Elsiay
17:53.17nevcairielremember that druids only need 410 defense
17:53.18nevcairielfor crit cap
17:53.21NivFreak415 afaik
17:53.22NivFreakbut yea
17:53.37NivFreakdo any of you have fully decked t6 bears in guild?
17:53.41NivFreakcan I see thier armorys?
17:54.05nevcairieli bet ours wears dps gear.. lemme check
17:54.10nevcairielhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Nayfal
17:54.11Psycho|WorkWe've killed everything but Illidan but ours is in his PvP suit now :(
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17:54.13nevcairielah no you are lucky
17:54.26NeoTronOur bares: http://armorylite.com/us/kilrogg/lunaaduro http://armorylite.com/us/kilrogg/surger
17:55.55Fisker-;_;
17:56.07Fisker-moo: up: 1day 8hrs 24mins 21secs
17:56.52Kuja^Oo what the fuck is up with babble
17:57.06Kuja^getting tones of tranlations not beeing there :P
17:57.11Kuja^err
17:57.17Kuja^*+grammar Oo
17:57.52shieldbNivFreak: http://armorylite.com/us/Tichondrius/Arti is our more geared bear tank
17:58.10shieldbwe're working on twins atm, so I'm not sure if that's quite where you were looking for in terms of gear availability
17:58.32NeoTronwe've downed brut, working on felmyst
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17:58.58shieldbNeoTron: quick question on magic marker if you've got a moment
17:59.48shieldbRecently (started a week or two ago) we've been having all the marks shift midpull on trash after the first mob dies
18:00.10shieldbi.e. we'll have stuff specifically marked in a kill order of mark 1, 2, 3, 4 and some CC marks
18:00.36shieldband after the first thing dies all the remaining makrs shift to be marks 1, 2, 3 + CC instead of being 2, 3, 4 + CC
18:01.22Kuja^oh cool, diffs++, the changelog was wrong he weren't updating locale stuff, he was adding new strings, nvm then :D
18:02.27NeoTronshieldb: if you're alive it shouldn't happen. if you're dead/out of combat it would
18:02.37NeoTronif multiple people is running it that can cause issues too
18:02.47shieldbit only seems to shift after the first mob dies, and causes a bit of confusion since we're assigning stuff along the lines of "ok this tank gets this mark, this tank gets this other mark"
18:02.48shieldbhmm
18:02.54NeoTronI disabled the option to enalbe mid-combat reprioritization since it doesn't work
18:03.02shieldbyeah I've been wondering if it's someone else causing it
18:03.23NeoTronmake sure to disable "remark on targeting" too
18:03.30NeoTronand only have remarking with the modifier down
18:03.32NeoTronthat should help
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18:03.44shieldbyeah I've seen it happen without me targeting or mousing over anything
18:03.56NeoTronit's possible then tha tsomeone else is doing it
18:04.06NeoTronesp if they don't have the newest version
18:04.50shieldbIs there a way that I can spy on other folks assigning marks with magicmarker? i.e. personX applied markY to mob Z via the debug/logging module?
18:04.51NeoTronI need to tweak how it works to prevent it
18:05.08NeoTronif you turn on debugging it should tell you
18:05.15NeoTronnot who did it though, just that someone did
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18:05.29NeoTronI'll definitely tweak it somehow
18:05.48NeoTronmake it not reorder marks unless stuff are added for example (never reorder when something dies
18:06.01NeoTronwhich btw it shouldn't
18:06.13NeoTronmain issue with the new system is that syncing it is err hard
18:07.14CIA-4103tsigo * r72997 10RaidCooldowns/ (5 files in 2 dirs): RaidCooldowns: If the user's running this but not oRA, broadcast to oRA the cooldowns it cares about.
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18:07.58Fisker-you fuck up my kiting
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18:12.16CIA-4103tsigo 07Ace3 * r72998 10Cutup/: Cutup: Ace3 branch go!
18:12.59pastamancerFisker-: I read that as knitting and wasn't too surprised
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18:13.37Fisker-:(
18:13.47Fisker-harass that gridstatusraiddebuff guy
18:13.52Fisker-i want transparency
18:13.59pastamancerknit me a scarf!
18:14.22Fisker-you got it
18:14.40shieldbhmm, Omen "Pull Aggro" bar is still getting stuck and making things look weird :|
18:14.46Fisker-Here's a scarf for you: ------
18:15.03Fisker-took me 1 million years in ms paint
18:15.17GeloJust did a ui reload and omen doesn't seem to remember texture
18:15.24shieldbhttp://oregonstate.edu/~shieldbe/warcraft/omen-weird-r72650.jpg
18:15.37shieldbthe tank is at 4505% threat!
18:16.14CIA-4103tsigo * r72999 10/branches/Cutup/ (Cutup.lua Cutup.toc libs/ modules/): Cutup: Delete our old 2.1 stuff that was left over.
18:16.30Polarinashieldb: You have 0% threat.
18:16.31Gelonevermind that, seems something else is borked :)
18:16.54shieldbPolarina: I've got 3986% threat according to omen in that shot :)
18:17.12shieldbbut yeah it thinks I'm stuck at zero for the purpose of comparing
18:17.28Polarinashieldb: What continent and server are you in? I want to report your name. xD
18:18.33CIA-4103Sorata * r73000 10Blizz_ButtonFacade/: Created folder
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18:18.34RaydenUniso should i save my CE quests?
18:18.38RaydenUniand till what rep?
18:19.18shieldbPolarina: US/Tichondrius. Not sure why the name would be against TOS though :)
18:19.19elite3vilI turn in plant parts until honored before I do any quests
18:19.52RaydenUniso do quests from honored to revered?
18:20.00RaydenUniguys online now say at revered you no longer get rep
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18:20.30elite3vilafaik, you run out of quests shortly after hitting revered
18:21.10Polarinashieldb: Just fooling around with ya. :)
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18:22.28CIA-4103Sorata * r73001 10Blizz_ButtonFacade/:
18:22.28CIA-41Blizz_ButtonFacade:
18:22.28CIA-41- Initial commit
18:23.17CIA-4103Sorata * r73002 10Blizz_ButtonFacade/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
18:23.17CIA-41Blizz_ButtonFacade:
18:23.17CIA-41- Actually select the files this time...
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18:24.44CIA-4103Sorata * r73003 10Blizz_ButtonFacade/Libs/:
18:24.44CIA-41Blizz_ButtonFacade:
18:24.44CIA-41- Add externals
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18:29.00Fisker-btw vhaarr
18:29.39vhaarrmen without hats
18:29.58Fisker-exactly
18:30.01Fisker-the topic is misleading
18:30.03Fisker-:(
18:30.16Fisker-It's CEST
18:30.16Fisker-hoho
18:30.16*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not discover it.
18:30.18*** topic/#wowace by vhaarr -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not discover it.
18:30.26vhaarroops
18:30.38vhaarrthat was old news anyway, it has been more than 24 hours now
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18:34.35Allarasvn question: I'm setting up auto-props, should I set BLP files to a certain mime-type and/or eol-style?
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18:39.10pastamancerAllara: application/octet-stream and no eol-style
18:39.30Allaraty :)
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18:40.29SnagoHmm.. Performance question: Any gain in doing foo_Bar(foo) instead of foo:Bar()? (assuming foo and foo_Bar are upvalues)
18:40.50pastamancerit's identical
18:40.59pastamanceryou can check with luac -l
18:41.11DashkalO.o? Wouldn't foo:Bar() be a table lookup?
18:41.13SnagoI did, but it's not identical
18:41.19pastamanceroh, right foo_Bar
18:41.22pastamancernot foo.Bar
18:41.40CIA-4103smcn * r73005 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua:
18:41.40CIA-41AckisRecipeList:
18:41.40CIA-41- Corrected reputation for Clefthide Leg Armor
18:41.47pastamancerI'd prefer foo:Bar anyways for readability
18:43.04SnagoThis is in an OnUpdate. I'll screw readability over and over if it will increase performance ;)
18:44.16CIA-4103Allara * r73006 10HitsMode/ (18 files in 3 dirs):
18:44.16CIA-41HitsMode: initial commit
18:44.16CIA-41- Combat log replacement
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18:49.55CIA-4103toadkiller * r73007 10AutoBar/ (5 files):
18:49.55CIA-41AutoBar :
18:49.55CIA-41-- Actually set popupHeader frame to DIALOG, dont just talk about doing it.
18:49.55CIA-41-- Adjust bar FrameStrata immediately
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18:54.14CIA-4103Allara * r73008 10HitsMode/:
18:54.14CIA-41HitsMode:
18:54.14CIA-41- Added externals
18:57.27CIA-41037destiny * r73009 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua:
18:57.27CIA-41BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru:
18:57.27CIA-41- Fix Void timers
18:57.27CIA-41- Add phase changes warnings
18:57.27CIA-41- Stop needless timer when the phase change
18:57.29CIA-41- koKR Update
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19:01.32DarkElfdang skillet says i dont have any of my healing potion ingredients and when i open the bag it shows 2, so hit update button and it still shows 0, talk about odd lol
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19:03.14Gnarfozlol wtf hitsmode
19:03.19chdstThose ingredients might be "claimed" by a queued up recipe, possibly another tradeskill.
19:03.26Gnarfozthat addon is so useless since 2.4 :D
19:03.38Allarayou'd be surprised how many people wanted me to update it for 2.4
19:03.47NeoTronGnarfoz: I disagree
19:03.54NeoTronI miss simple combat log, which is the asme
19:04.03NeoTronthe blizz combat log is effing annoying
19:04.35chiperyeah, I've stopped useing the combat log entirely since 2.4
19:04.52NeoTronone thing I don't get is why they don't have a simple "view combat log for: XXX" feature
19:04.57chiperalso stopped using skillet
19:05.07NeoTroninstead of having to find an entry in <Everything>, right click on the name and then filter
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19:06.35DarkElfDoom 4 announced oh nos!
19:06.42CartasAnyone happen to know of a good, free DVD burning app. for XP?
19:06.54chiperDarkElf: because crysis isnt taxing enough
19:07.19chiperthey gotta push that envelope even more
19:07.25mitchnullburning only: imageburn
19:07.40CartasIt doesn't only burn images (ISO, etc.) right?
19:07.43mitchnullauthoring: buy something. all the free ones suck
19:07.56DarkElfwow kind of reminds me of doom, the engine is similar
19:07.59chiperyeah, just go get nero
19:08.09chiperdark: guh?
19:08.09mitchnullno, nero sucks for authoring
19:08.25mitchnullI recommend tmpgenc
19:08.49chiperbut... it doesnt have a clever name
19:08.56chiper;)
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19:11.44Snagostarlon, vhaarr: ping
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19:11.51vhaarrpong
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19:12.37Snagovhaarr: the function func in oUF_ReadyCheck on line 51 is declared global
19:14.03CIA-4103funkydude * r73010 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: Don't ever change my timers without talking to me.
19:14.56CIA-4103rabbit * r73011 10oUF_ReadyCheck/oUF_ReadyCheck.lua: oUF_ReadyCheck: Jeebus help us.
19:15.00vhaarrSnago: just for the record, that wasn't me
19:15.09DarkElfCartas - http://www.burnworld.com/burnoncddvd/
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19:15.21Snagovhaarr: I belive you :)
19:15.32Lywellynyawns.
19:15.36LywellynHello all.
19:15.39vhaarrfucking piece of shit that is fish.wowace.com would have proven it
19:15.43vhaarrbut it's too slow, so I can't be arsed
19:15.57CartasThanks DarkElf, I'll give it a go.
19:16.42vhaarrwants another season of Flight of the Conchords
19:17.09vhaarrDeadwood and Dexter as well
19:19.15Funkeh`vhaarr, looking for this? http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/5f237e88e349ebcb#
19:21.10Silviu-But on fish is more clear
19:21.11Silviu-:D
19:23.07Zyuuyes
19:23.08Zyuumore dexter
19:23.09Zyuudexter
19:23.11Zyuumore more more
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19:28.36Snagoagree with Zyuu
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19:35.56GnarfozNeoTron: hm, dunno, I only use EavesDrop anyway
19:36.48Fisker-RAWR
19:37.07Chompershush Fisker-
19:39.15CIA-4103Sorata * r73012 10Blizz_ButtonFacade/Blizzard_ButtonFacade.lua:
19:39.15CIA-41Blizz_ButtonFacade:
19:39.15CIA-41- Disable skinning for ActionButtons because it is hiding the icon
19:40.10Fisker-Chompers
19:40.13Fisker-I WILL WIN THIS CONTEST
19:40.13Fisker-http://i28.tinypic.com/wv24uw.jpg
19:42.25Chompersit's brilliant Fisker-
19:42.29Chompersyou win at the internet
19:42.39CIA-4103Sorata * r73013 10ButtonFacade/ButtonFacade.lua:
19:42.39CIA-41ButtonFacade:
19:42.39CIA-41<PROTECTED>
19:42.42LywellynFisker-:  lol!
19:43.02Lywellynafl?  Away from Life?
19:43.06Fisker-i wonder if they'll ban me just for being a jackass :D
19:44.34NeoTron<PROTECTED>
19:44.36HjalteElsia: Recount is really wrong to me at the moment. Overall data, one of our dps warriors has way too much damage attributed to him. And in this current fight data on the screenshot, both rogues are way over the damage they should have done - www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_050708_213320.jpg
19:44.48NeoTronboth tanks died due to enrage a second or so before he died
19:45.10NeoTronGnarfoz: isn't eavesdrop exactly the same kind of addon?
19:45.46ElsiaHjalte: I think it's still the same old sync bug that I cannot reproduce
19:45.56Brunersanyone got an idea why itemcheck wont work with me on Ora2?
19:45.58CIA-4103Allara * r73014 10HitsMode/ (. Libs/):
19:45.58CIA-41HitsMode:
19:45.58CIA-41- Updated externals
19:45.59Elsiaand it's a hunter I think or did I see that wrong
19:46.37Elsiaoh you use light green for warriors? nevermind
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19:47.33Elsiathere is actually another possibility, but unlikely... some people posted "how to cheat recount", basically feeding false data to recount, but I don't see why your warrior should be doing that
19:47.57ElsiaI'm pretty sure it's a sync bug that I just can't for the heck reproduce
19:49.01CIA-4103nevcairiel * r73015 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatUtils.lua: Threat-2.0: small tweaks to OnCommReceived
19:49.36GnarfozNeoTron: actually, no :)
19:50.25GnarfozNeoTron: hitsmode just changed the combatlog text layout back in the day, eavesdrop creates its own frame, has icons, etc
19:50.26NeoTronboth show more compact versions of the combat log
19:50.35HjalteElsia: On the screenshot, it's the two rogues being wrong. One of the rogues are using Recount, and had reset his meter one or two fights before that one.
19:50.38NeoTronthe functionality/idea is the same
19:50.38Gnarfozyeah, if you generalize it that far :>
19:50.43NeoTronthe execution is different
19:50.52NeoTronend point is: bliz combat log isn't good :)
19:51.23NeoTronhas anyone verified if 2.4.2 has proper death events for raid members?
19:51.36Matrix110|yeah please
19:51.44Matrix110|then i can start flaming healers again
19:52.02Silviu-Small error with latest commit from Sorata to ButtonFacade : http://ace.pastey.net/87402
19:53.08HjalteElsia: It's just funny, because the detail windows are always right, but the damage in the damage meter is wrong. It's always the same warrior who is getting wrongly attributed in some way btw, and he's also using Recount.
19:53.31Elsiawell he's probably also always spamming that reset data button :P
19:53.45HjalteHe told me he hadn't reset tonight :)
19:53.57Elsiadidn't you just say he did 2 fights before?
19:54.38HjalteThat was the rogue :)
19:54.48Elsiaso why is the warrior's data wrong?
19:55.25SorataSilviu- Damn, that happens when a group ISN'T added before the OnEnable is called. Give me a sec, I'll add some nil checks.
19:55.51AneaSVN question... some osx users reported that they have trouble with forward vs backward slashes in the library-folder of SpamSentry. I just checked, but can't find any irregularities in the SVN folder, nor in my settings, nor in the precompiled zipfile. Any ideas?
19:56.05Silviu-Ok Sorata :)
19:56.19Elsiaand the "detail" data is right because it's not sync'd. If you don't want these problems you can turn sync off via /recount sync but it'll be off more in split fights of which there aren't that many
19:58.41HjalteElsia: I have no clue why the warriors damage is wrong, the rogues data might be wrong because of the reset he made.
19:59.16charonElsia: just for the record, my question on monday or so was a false alarm. logs have confirmed the data. i seem to simply have been lucky and/or on steroids
19:59.17Elsiaall I can go by is that screenshot. The warrior data doesn't look wrong to me at all really, and yeah the rogues are likely wrong, certainly the top one
19:59.31Elsiacharon: cool thanks
20:02.03HjalteElsia: Indeed, that screenshot is showing a current fight, where the rogues were wrong :) I was just telling you,that additionally when looking at overall data, one of the warriors were way off.
20:02.08Elsiathe pain with sync is that I am testing this as best I can, I reset data and see no issues, so it's really hard to debug this based on screenshots that basically just show it being wrong, I can't really trace it based on that I fear
20:03.11Elsiais there anything consistently happening? DCs, late joins, out of range in odd ways? is that a tank who dies a lot?
20:03.17vhaarrFunkeh`: right
20:03.46CIA-4103Sorata * r73016 10ButtonFacade/ButtonFacade.lua:
20:03.47CIA-41ButtonFacade:
20:03.47CIA-41- Revert commit, was throwing an error when a group wasn't added before OnEnable was called.
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20:04.16HjalteElsia: Well, it's just your standard BT clear. On Supremus you have everyone far away from each other of course, but I'm not sure when the warrior suddenly jumped massively up the overall damage on list.
20:04.41ElsiaI kinda need the "cause" so the moment really matters
20:05.25Silviu-Thx Sorata
20:05.28ElsiaI done supremus kills and saw no odd data, syncing basically worked fine for me there. also in my small group tests long range syncs work as intended
20:06.20CIA-4103anea * r73017 10SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc core.lua readme.txt):
20:06.20CIA-41SpamSentry 20080507:
20:06.20CIA-41- Updated filters.
20:06.23Elsiareally if it was a systematic problem you'd see everybody going out of sync in odd ways so it's strange if just one does
20:10.04HjalteElsia: I don't think I've seen the rogue be wrong before, usually it's the warrior being the problem
20:10.40ElsiaI don't think it relates to class, it either relates to what people do (delete for example) or to some game state, like DC, or joining late or some other issue
20:10.48Elsiamaybe the warrior has a bad connection?
20:11.29Elsiaif you see it a lot with one person that person just triggers the problem a lot basically
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20:15.57ElsiaHjalte: i'll make a debug instrumented version of the sync code. maybe you can use that and let me know what you see there
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20:17.35HjalteElsia: Sure. By the way, the warrior just went from a clear #1 to below the tanks on overall damage.
20:18.09ElsiawasN#
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20:18.25Elsiacan you post me an overall data screenshot. the rogue one really wasn't helpful re the warrior
20:18.35NivFreakis there any reason not to use a prot paladin as the guardians tank on akama?
20:18.50Fisker-not really
20:19.02Vulcanuspaladins are too awesome for such mundane tasks
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20:19.06NivFreakhaha
20:19.14NivFreakseems easier than a feral to me
20:19.31Fisker-well a pala tank for the guardians is probably the best
20:19.42Fisker-the other adds ignore consecration as far as i know
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20:20.23NivFreakseems like a hectic fight
20:20.35CIA-4103gagorian * r73018 10DrDamage/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
20:20.35CIA-41DrDamage:
20:20.35CIA-41- Removed SEA dependancy, be prepared for possible bugs
20:20.36Fisker-it's actually pretty easy
20:20.41vhaarrit's not hectic
20:20.44vhaarrit's easy
20:20.47Fisker-just need 3 tanks that can tank 3 spots
20:20.57Fisker-heal the tanks, dps the adds, dps the channelers
20:21.06NeoTronNivFreak: from what I've heard, the guardians are not affected by holy damage at all
20:21.17NeoTrona friend tried a prot pally and he couldn't build threat at all
20:21.30NeoTronso basically the direct opposite of what Fisker- said
20:21.33HjalteElsia: Even my detail window of the warrior is wrong now. This is really strange :(
20:21.59Fisker-though basically first hand experience here
20:22.03vhaarrNeoTron: we've always used a prot pally, haven't had problems
20:22.18NeoTronwe always use a druid in the center, prot on one side
20:22.24NeoTronso it's not first hand experience
20:22.37Elsiagief screenshot
20:22.42NivFreakI have 2 prot warriors, 2 ferals, and one prot pally to work with
20:22.49NivFreakso I'm just trying to figure out what makes sense
20:23.04Fisker-you have 2 warriors too much
20:23.07vhaarrwhat makes sense is: 1 prot warrior on each door and the pally in the middle
20:23.10vhaarrferals for dps
20:23.15Fisker-if the ferals have DPS gear get them to DPS the channelers
20:23.26Fisker-yeah what vhaarr said
20:23.30vhaarrthen 2 dps on each side
20:23.31NivFreakFisker-: diaf
20:23.34vhaarrmages if you can, or hunters
20:23.40vhaarrrest on channelers
20:23.46NivFreakvhaarr: I was planning to do exactly that
20:23.52vhaarrthen you'll wipe 1-2 times
20:23.54vhaarrand kill
20:23.56NivFreakbut wanted to know if the prot pally would work for the guadians
20:24.02vhaarrworks fine if he's not an idiot
20:24.09NivFreakI have conflicting info
20:24.12NivFreakand our tanks are all solid
20:24.22vhaarrit's important to note that the guardians ignore anything that happens to them before they reach akama
20:24.28NivFreakright
20:24.34NeoTronearly it might be necessary to have 3 dps on each side
20:25.04mitchnullwhat does this line mean exactly? ## LoadWith: MobInfo2
20:25.13NivFreakNeoTron: in terms of learning?
20:25.15mitchnullwhat happens if I don't have MobInfo2?
20:25.36NivFreakI'm curious to see if we can kill 3 bosses our first night in BT
20:25.49NivFreakpretty sure we can get 2
20:26.32HjalteElsia: www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_050708_222447.jpg - He's number 14, but he's been with us during the whole raid. Looks like his data was reset at some point, but neither him, me or the rogue has reset recently.
20:26.46NeoTronNivFreak: it terms of having sufficient dps
20:27.06NivFreakah
20:27.20NeoTronvhaarr might be speaking as someone with mostly full t6 on all dps
20:27.24Elsiahmm he does have a special character in his name :P
20:27.26NeoTronin which case 2 dps is plenty
20:27.33Elsiagotta test if that causes any issues
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20:29.19Elsiahmm does the comm channel or serialization have issues with special characters?
20:29.39NeoTronseems odd that it would
20:30.31ElsiaHjalte: is he down on everybody's recount or just yours?
20:30.41Elsiaand did he die at any point?
20:32.33HjalteWe had a massive wipe at some point, it could have been then his data got wiped, now I think about it. It seems his data was also wiped at another recount user.
20:33.26Elsiayou sure he doesn't have autodelete without confirmation on?
20:33.45Elsiabasically if you can get the warrior's recount config data tab screenshotted that'd help
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20:37.26mitchnulltinytip on trunk seems to be broken a bit...
20:37.44charonZeksie: lol i just reported something from grimreaper for the first time... the health bars are so funny :)
20:39.41HjalteElsia: I'll get him to take a screenshot after the raid. On his overall data, he is second by the way. And I don't think it has been reset, it doesn't sound like that when I talk to him.
20:40.39ElsiaHjalte: it's really confusing, so you basically constantly switch between current and overall fight? and he's correct in overall but wrong in current?
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20:43.09NeoTronso for eredar twins the lock tank wears no resist gear?
20:44.27HjalteElsia: I usually have my recount set to "current fight". Things seem right in "current fight" (except for the first screenshot), but when looking at "Overall Data", the warriors data is wrong. Right now, I have been switching between current fight and overall data to get more info on the bugs.
20:45.26ElsiaI wonder if that's the actual key to this but it shouldn't be... if people switch current to overall fight data it somehow confuses the sync amounts... I'll check into that
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20:53.31CIA-4103profalbert 07Guardiandamage * r73019 10Parrot/ (22 files in 5 dirs):
20:53.31CIA-41Parrot:
20:53.31CIA-41- guardian-damage-branch
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20:57.02HjalteSigh, some ghosts didn't go away when we wiped on Teron... Now they're following the raid, and some people are running away from them and it's all taking ages.
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21:01.03nevcairielheh we had that once
21:01.10nevcairielwe just had everyoen die or port out
21:01.24_neuron_same, we told everyone to die or port out, and when a few people died they despawned
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21:01.32_neuron_tell the retard they are following around to stop running :P
21:01.35CIA-4103totalpackage * r73020 10Cellular/core.lua:
21:01.35CIA-41Cellular
21:01.35CIA-41- updated LSM3 support for borders
21:01.50HjalteIn the end we had everyone die, but of course some people started wanting to show them all of BT
21:02.14nevcairielwe just start giving dkp penalitys for shit like that
21:02.41_neuron_heh, we just gkick and recruit a new moron :p
21:03.28nevcairielwe dont have that high flow of equiped people :P
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21:04.06_neuron_omg, some retard bet 2$ on an online kasino game (while waiting for an online poker match) and won 3 mil..
21:04.24NeoTronhadny
21:04.44vraknice for him/her
21:04.56NeoTron_neuron_: and all he has to do now is to open an account for Umbada Son Kirash to deposit the money too?
21:05.13_neuron_hehe, nha, they sent it directly to his account, without notifying him
21:05.26_neuron_he just saw the online flash animation tick up money, called his bank, and the money was all in his account :P
21:05.31vrakheh, nice surprise that
21:05.47_neuron_personally I would think "yeah sure, this is either fake money, a broken game, or an add"
21:05.48NeoTronthat'd be rather nice indeed
21:05.49_neuron_-d
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21:06.37Diaohmm
21:06.46Diaowhy was the classic vol skin removed from buttonfacade :(
21:06.57Diaoi liked its look better than volii
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21:09.21CIA-4103stormfx * r73021 10ButtonFacade_Caith/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
21:09.21CIA-41ButtonFacade_Caith:
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21:10.56CIA-4103Allara * r73022 10HitsMode/ (HitsMode.lua HitsMode.toc):
21:10.56CIA-41HitsMode:
21:10.56CIA-41- Minor display logic fix
21:11.57[SW]Dodgesomeone knows if zomgbuffs is compatible with palypower?
21:12.14Chompersyes.
21:12.20[SW]Dodgeok thanks=)
21:12.32Chomperszomg is better, so get them to all swap over
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21:13.16JagobahAnyone use MagicDKP and have Sunwell exp?
21:13.23elite3vilChompers: Some people are stubborn and won't switch
21:13.37NivFreakJagobah: neotron imo
21:13.55Chomperstrue
21:13.59Chomperstheir loss
21:14.03elite3vilAgreed.
21:14.12NivFreakI still need to figure out why it doesn't remember to rebuff shadow prot on my priest
21:14.25elite3vil"OMG I DONT LIKE THIS IM SWITHCING BACK TO PALLYPOWER" (after 15 minutes of use)
21:14.28Chomperswish it showed when people were out of range
21:14.36Chompersbuffing 2/3 of a group sucks
21:14.46elite3vilI have it set to wait for groups/classes
21:14.47JagobahYeah, I'm having this strange bug where magicdkp just won't track attendance properly in sunwell :(
21:15.02elite3vilso it won't buff until everyone from that class is there.
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21:17.03ZhinjioI had a couple more people in the guild try ZOMG out before I put it in the raid compilation. They didn't play with it long enough to understand that its orders of magnitude better than PP
21:17.25ZhinjioI'm kinda pissed about it, actually.
21:17.43Chompers4 one shots in hyjal
21:17.44NeoTronJagobah: attendance on kalecgos specifically?
21:17.50Chompersand archi keeps airbusting the tank
21:17.54NeoTronJagobah: or in general? (because in general should work)
21:17.55Chompersfail blizzard, fail
21:18.06elite3vilZhinjio: Yeah, I have one pally who switched, one that tried it for 15 minutes and went back to PP, and then one that "couldn't get it to work"
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21:18.48Chompershaha
21:18.50JagobahKalecgos mainly
21:18.55NeoTronKalecgos is odd
21:18.58Jagobah:X
21:18.59NeoTronbasically there is no death event
21:19.03Chomperswe have one of those, he had a panic attack when he had to assign buffs
21:19.06NeoTronand the demon you loot is friendly
21:19.06JagobahI still have to use ka_raidtracker for it
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21:19.25Chompersi've never laughed so hard at someone in distress in my life
21:19.38NeoTronIt should track it on mouse over due to a special case but I had some issues. then all of a sudden it works
21:19.39elite3vilI do all the buff assignments... which is one of the reasons I like ZOMG a lot better
21:19.40JagobahThere is a boss yell though
21:19.42NeoTronworked
21:19.47NeoTronI don't listen to boss yells
21:19.47JagobahI'm almost tempted to hack it so that it works through that
21:19.58Jagobah(ka_raidtracker that is)
21:20.12NeoTrondoes ka_raitracker really track the kill correctrly?
21:20.19elite3vil"Hey look, a nifty 'generate' button!"
21:20.26ravagernldoes buttonfacade support bartender3, or just bartender4?
21:20.30Zhinjioyeah, no kidding.
21:20.31JagobahAutoboss doesn't work, mouseover does
21:20.45NeoTronin either case, the proper fix SHOULD be in but unfortunately it doesn't consistently work for some reason
21:20.45JagobahBut it's got some code that can track majordomo correctly
21:20.47ZhinjioI'm tempted to just push my will through their ignorance and obstinance anyway, and require it.
21:20.48BrunersZhinjio: why change when pallypower works great?
21:20.48NeoTronI added a special hack for it
21:20.58Zhinjiobecause it isn't just about pallies.
21:21.01JagobahAny news on this hack?
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21:21.07NeoTronit's in SVN
21:21.15Jaxonravagernl: the correct question is "Does Bartender3 support ButtonFacade?"  And I don't think so.
21:21.24Zhinjioand pallypower doesn't so all the things that ZOMG does
21:21.28JagobahOkay, and one last question...
21:21.35Zhinjioyou can't split specs and do 10min buffs on off specs with PP
21:21.36JagobahAny plans to manually add items looted to raids?
21:21.37Zhinjiofor example
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21:21.46BrunersZhinjio: but why do a paladin need anything more that pallypower can provice?
21:21.46Jagobahi.e. /kart additem [itemlink]
21:21.46NeoTron<PROTECTED>
21:21.57[SW]Dodgeravagernl: no bt3 doesnt support Button facade afaik but BT4 does ^^
21:22.02ZhinjioBruners: read above.
21:22.09NeoTronyes I want to add that feature
21:22.11ZhinjioI just gave an example of something Pally power cannot do
21:22.32ravagernljaxon, do you know if bartender4 will import settings from bartender3?
21:22.38JagobahYeah that, getting kalecgos to work and sorting out attendance issues and I can drop kart and ct_rt :)
21:22.39elite3vilBruners: It also allows you to see what buffs the raid members are missing, so you can yell at the priests/mages/other pallies/druids
21:22.45ChompersBruners: use zomg
21:22.47NivFreakI hate PP
21:22.49Chompersjust do it
21:22.52Jaxonravagernl: it won't, but setup with Bongos3 and Bartender4 are much quicker than previous iterations
21:22.55Chompersdon't argue, gogo
21:22.57NivFreakI still use it along with ZOMG because PUG pallys never have ZOMG
21:23.01BrunersChompers: im a hunter:P
21:23.25BrunersNivFreak: do pug pallys have PP ?
21:23.30NeoTronJagobah: what is frustrating is that I did get the mouse over thing to work on kalecgos but it seemed random
21:23.33CIA-4103elsia * r73023 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua debug.lua):
21:23.33CIA-41Recount:
21:23.33CIA-41- Possible bug fix to lazy sync code
21:23.34CIA-41- Lazy sync code instrumented for debugging purposes. To help debug create a new chat tab and name it "Debug", report all content, specially if you get "anomaly" messages.
21:23.35NeoTronin that I'm not sure why it all of a sudden worked
21:23.41NivFreakBruners: usually yes
21:23.55elite3vilNivfreak: Why do you need both? ZOMG will communicate with PP
21:24.06NivFreakeh? it will?
21:24.10elite3vilYeah.
21:24.12NeoTronbasically it does call LogRaidEvent properly but something in theer made the check fail
21:24.15NivFreakI wonder if it was broken when I tried it before
21:24.15NivFreak:P
21:24.17CIA-4103stormfx * r73024 10ButtonFacade_Serenity/ButtonFacade_Serenity.toc:
21:24.17CIA-41ButtonFacade_Serenity:
21:24.17CIA-41<PROTECTED>
21:24.21JagobahOh yeah
21:24.27elite3vilOtherwise I'd have to keep both open
21:24.28JagobahOne week I got it to work properly with sathrovarr
21:24.32JagobahThis week no luck
21:24.32Elsianite
21:24.34NivFreakelite3vil: which is what I do
21:24.35NivFreakhah
21:24.35NivFreakok
21:24.40NivFreakI'll try ditching PP again
21:24.46NivFreakI don't raid my pally much though
21:24.55elite3vilMine's my main.
21:24.57NeoTronJagobah: I suspect the issue is I had two mobs named Kalecgos
21:24.58NivFreakher gear is falling behind badly
21:25.03NeoTronand it worked once I put both of them to ignore
21:25.06elite3vilI need better ret gearz.
21:25.24BrunersI'll give ZOMGBuffs a try then, if not im back to PP :P
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21:25.42elite3viland actually give it a try, don't just use it for 5 minutes without playing with all the features.
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21:26.10NeoTronaha
21:26.19NeoTronJagobah: so likely you have an entry for http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=24891
21:26.26NeoTronfrom when I added friendly charaters
21:26.31ravagernlnevcariel: Is it possible to import a bt3 profile into Bartender4?
21:26.34NeoTronmake it ignored and tracking should work properly on kalecgos
21:26.40JaxonNo, it isn't.
21:26.47NeoTronI no longer add friendly npc's and instead added the special hard coded case
21:27.33JagobahOkay I'll give that a shot next week
21:27.37Chompers60% on archi every god damned time
21:27.38Chompersi hate him
21:27.49Psycho|WorkWait until you've killed him a few times then you spend an evening wiping.
21:27.59elite3vilI'm sad they fixed that fight so you can't stand on the hill anymore.
21:28.11Chompersits so easy
21:28.21Chomperswhy don't we one shot him ARGH
21:28.36NeoTronJagobah: basically how I handle multi-mob events is to add a list of all npc's for an "event". In this case the event is kalecgos and it added both human kalecgos and sathrovarr
21:28.38elite3vilI still hate Kalecgos.
21:28.43NeoTronand naturally human kalecgos doesn't die
21:28.52elite3vilIt's by far my least favorite fight right now
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21:30.05CIA-4103profalbert * r73025 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua:
21:30.05CIA-41Parrot:
21:30.05CIA-41- Mindcontrolled and Enslaved Mobs should no longer be displayed as incoming damage, when the effect ends.
21:30.44JagobahI think it's funny when human Kalecgos dies and BigWigs plays a victory sound
21:31.23Funkeh`Jagobah, What's funny is that one of your raid members has such an old version of bigwigs that it happens to you
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21:32.01elite3vilI wish there was a way to force people to upgrade their mods
21:32.25JaxonThats okay, one of our druids still has a CTRA compatible mod reporting his rebirth cooldown as 30 minutes
21:32.31elite3villol.
21:32.40stew_aelite3vil: just write really annoying "there is a new version" alerts, that'll get them going :-)
21:32.48Dashkalsure there is.  version check and raidkick anybody without :p
21:33.02elite3vilDashkal: I'm not an officer, or I would. =P
21:33.07Funkeh`It's not a matter of forcing people, if they haven't updated they probably don't give a shit about the mod and don't gnerally use it
21:33.33DashkalEh, only omen is really important enough to force.  boss mods we just yell at them for being stupid
21:33.41elite3vilOmen is the big one
21:33.42profalbertwell, DeadlyBossMods has a nice notification
21:33.44Funkeh`All-in-all the only thing that it comes across is lack of caring
21:33.57vhaarrprofalbert: so does BigWigs, we just don't go around screaming about it
21:34.07DashkalBut that said: If the raid memeber really doesn't care _and_ dies to things those mods would help them avoid, then they're crappy raiders
21:34.27profalbertIt also opens a popup containing the download-url? (don't know, don't use bigwigs atm)
21:34.27Funkeh`and at the end of the day do you really want people in your guild that don't care
21:34.29elite3vileh, we have a warlock that *still* dies to his inner demon and he's in full t6. =P
21:34.31Starinniaseriously, if your raiders don't use the tools presented to them to the fullest, don't have them raid :P
21:34.37vhaarrprofalbert: why the hell would it do that?
21:34.43DashkalIf they're perfectly capable of playing without the mods, *shrugs* play how you like
21:34.51vhaarrprofalbert: most people who use bigwigs use some sort of updater application anyway
21:35.24NeoTronJagobah: ok updated MagicDKP will now remove the faulty entries
21:35.36elite3vilI also find it amusing when people complain that a mod keeps getting updated
21:35.39elite3vili.e. Omen
21:35.56profalbertvhaar: obviously some don't, and then it plays the victorysound when human kalecgos dies
21:35.58CIA-4103neotron * r73026 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Remove blacklisted friendly mobs accidently added when the addon didn't differentiate between friendly/enemy mobs (this caused the Kalecgos encounter to bug and added some unnecessary data for other zones).
21:35.59NeoTrondue to ^^^
21:36.17vhaarrprofalbert: how horrible, I have the solution for you; go download DBM
21:36.44elite3vilOr turn off the victory sound? =P
21:36.50profalbertdownloading DBM
21:37.46NeoTronJagobah: I remove human kalecgos and madrigosa from SWP, tyrande, thrall and jaina from hyjal
21:38.03profalbertyesterday there actually was the suggestion to _forbid_ people to update certain mods, because of incompatibility issues
21:38.03stew_abtw just advice to everyone, theres a set of macros doing the wow exploit forum circuits, that send |3 as a bossmod custom bar or similar, causing anyone ruunning and addon that will display it to crash, might be worth ensuring stuff like that is stripped out etc?
21:38.22profalbertin our riad
21:38.41vhaarrprofalbert: we wouldn't make any changes to BigWigs that broke compatability
21:38.55profalbertit wasn't related to bigwigs
21:39.01profalbertbut to omen and easymother
21:39.20elite3vilEasymother?
21:39.21vhaarrOmen had a good reason to break compatability several times
21:39.32Funkeh`omen has every reason to break it
21:39.38vhaarrnot one I care to explain to someone acting like you
21:39.39profalberti know
21:39.40vhaarrbut a good one
21:40.24profalbertit wasn't my suggestion, and thank god some people joined me flaming the one who suggested that
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21:41.01Funkeh`It comes back to my original statement
21:41.04Funkeh`about lazyness
21:41.16Funkeh`forbidding updating to continue lazyness isn't the right solution
21:41.18GagorianNeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/kc2zu3dcwclm5?s=6818-7144
21:41.21Gagorianlast brutallus as fire
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21:41.38vhaarrit's not about lazyness, they just don't care about it
21:41.57profalbertwell, they claim "why update, if it works"
21:42.07elite3vilIf it worked, why would it be updated?
21:42.13CIA-4103snago * r73027 10oUF_PowerSpark/ (. oUF_PowerSpark.lua oUF_PowerSpark.toc readme.txt):
21:42.13CIA-41oUF_PowerSpark: Initial commit.
21:42.13CIA-41- Mean, lean energy ticker + 5 sec rule spark.
21:42.18Funkeh`If you can improve it, why wouldn't you?
21:42.19profalbertbut as you said, Omen had its reasons to break compatibility
21:42.30vhaarrmany reasons to update something that works, translation updates being the main thing for BigWigs
21:42.42vhaarrdoesn't mean enUS people have to update
21:42.45JagobahNeoTron:  Oh nice, will test and give feedback
21:42.46CIA-4103neotron * r73028 10MagicDKP/ (DefaultData.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: Also remove Maiev Shadowsong from list of npc's.
21:42.50elite3vilYeah.. I didn't word it the way I wanted.
21:43.01BrunersZOMGBuffs looks kinda cool
21:43.44profalbertwell, let's rephrase it: "why update to an higher incompatible version, if the old one works"
21:44.09NeoTronGagorian: SP + elemental shaman?
21:44.21profalbertagain: not my opinion
21:44.31GagorianNeoTron: aye
21:44.36CIA-4103Allara * r73029 10HitsMode/HitsMode.lua: HitsMode: added revision keyword
21:44.42NeoTronI'd upload our newest kill of WWWS wasn't fail
21:44.51vhaarrI hope that person is not your raid leader or anything then
21:44.57NeoTronhmm maybe it's unfailed now
21:45.00JaxonNeoTron: I was able to upload reports this morning
21:45.02profalbertvhaarr: thank god no
21:45.08NeoTronJaxon: I wasn't but trying again now
21:45.17nevcairielWWS was fixed a few hours ago
21:45.20NeoTronok works now
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21:45.40profalbertvhaarr: and fyi: I was not serious about the update-popup before
21:46.09vhaarrah, in that case I apologize for acting up
21:46.31profalbertvhaarr: np
21:46.48NeoTronI was somewhat threat constrained on our last kill
21:47.16Zhinjiocrap. bongos is not BF compliant?
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21:47.40HjalteZhinjio: It is, you just need an additional addon.
21:48.16Zhinjioah, ok. I'll poke around for it.
21:48.23CIA-4103gagorian * r73030 10DrDamage/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
21:48.23CIA-41DrDamage:
21:48.23CIA-41- Gratuity-2.0 -> LibGratuity-3.0
21:48.23JaxonIt is on files.
21:48.34NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/pkjmkfizpxjfs?s=6876-7240
21:48.40NeoTronresto shaman + boomkin
21:49.10NeoTronnot particularilt good but as I said, I had to pause at times due to threat :-/
21:49.20NeoTronI was riding 10k or less of the 130% mark at times
21:50.28PeoiiNeoTron: So what you're saying is Nerf Warlocks.  I think we can all agree on that.
21:51.06mykxhrm every single brut kill of ours I have recieved 2 or more burns, kinda annoying :)
21:51.15PeoiiActually, I should be more correct... it's not "nerf warlocks" it's "buff all other classes to warlock state... they're about the only truely balanced class in the game"
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21:52.40NeoTronthe latter is perhaps more correct
21:52.58NeoTronGagorian: I migth consider testing fire again now when I have a proper cloak too
21:53.08NeoTronSpecifically illidari council cloak
21:53.11ZhinjioFound it, thanks.
21:53.24Funkeh`what regex could you use for a number that *might* be a decimal with uknown length
21:53.45GagorianNeoTron: Hmm yeah, well I like fire
21:53.55Funkeh`would you need %d+%.%d+ ?
21:54.01GagorianAnd it can push out mad damage too so
21:54.23JaxonFunkeh`: . is a reserved character in regex
21:54.25Funkeh`um %d+%.?%d?
21:54.32NeoTronI honestly believe both are pretty similar
21:54.35mykxGagorian: the thing is it's not like shadow sucks
21:54.42Funkeh`Jaxon, why do you think I escaped it ><
21:54.47NeoTronesp considering raid benefit of shadow
21:54.51mykxboth are very competent dps
21:55.06NeoTronwhat I need though to do fire is something that very noticeably lets me know to start casting immolate
21:55.08JaxonFunkeh`: oh, %.  I'm not used to lua's implementation
21:55.13Chompersvhaarr: NRT-372464\NRT.lua:1139: table index is nil
21:55.18Funkeh`heh
21:55.22Chompersat least i think its you i'm after
21:55.23NeoTronbecause while raid leading I frankly get too distracted at times(note that I only had 5 CoD on the kill)
21:55.40NeoTronI think my last CoD was like 20s out or so
21:55.57Funkeh`lua> string.find("54.75" "%d+%.?%d*")
21:55.58lua_botFunkeh`: luabot:1: ')' expected near '"%d+%.?%d*"'
21:56.05GagorianI had CoW :D
21:56.07mykxhow many locks do you go with NeoTron ?
21:56.09Funkeh`lua> string.find("54.75", "%d+%.?%d*")
21:56.09lua_botFunkeh`: 1, 5
21:56.11NeoTronone of the tanks experimenting with arcane/frost doesn't help fire either :P
21:56.20GagorianSo, with a CoD I would've been able to put out ~250 dps more
21:56.27NeoTronmykx: for brutallus specifically or in general?
21:56.37NeoTronGagorian: we have an arms warrior
21:56.37Funkeh`lua> string.find("54", "%d+%.?%d*")
21:56.38lua_botFunkeh`: 1, 2
21:56.47mykxin general really, none of our locks use CoD except on farm stuff really
21:56.57stew_aΓΌ and similar accented characters dont appear to count as %a in en locales, any idea how i can add these?
21:57.01NeoTronwe go with 3-5 depending on fight and availability of deeps
21:57.04Funkeh`lua> string.find("54.0", "%d+%.?%d*")
21:57.05JaxonFunkeh`: I would use \d+(?:\.\d+)? if this was pcre
21:57.05lua_botFunkeh`: 1, 4
21:57.07NeoTronour locks just happen to be reliable
21:57.14NeoTronand ofc good dps
21:57.27mykxmyself and 1 other always show up and then our third does most of the time
21:57.32KaaosaNow that my guild has more locks than just me, I put them all on utility curses and I do CoD >_>
21:57.35mykxCoE, CoS, CoR lol
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21:57.53CIA-4103phanx 072.4 * r73031 10Assessment/Assessment.toc: Assessment: Add Roster and SpecialEventsAura to X-Embeds and OptDeps.
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21:58.08Funkeh`lua> string.find("5.11", "%d+%.?%d*")
21:58.09lua_botFunkeh`: 1, 4
21:58.13Funkeh`guess that will work
21:58.17BrunersZOMGBuffs seems to be hard to config, atleast for farmer joe
21:58.59Gngskbruners, just for self buffing you mean?
21:59.03Kulaarw000t assessment working in 2.4 ?
21:59.17PGcan anyone give me a small help with Clearfont ??
21:59.29CIA-4103rabbit * r73032 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): .NRT/BDKP/TypingIndicator: Blizzard. Nuff said.
21:59.59vhaarrChompers: fixed
22:00.20Cheadshmm can't get zmog to buff Blessing of Sanctuary on myself
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22:00.56Cheadshmm nm
22:00.58Cheads=)
22:01.51dylanmCheads: Yell at Zeksie.
22:01.54NeoTronI tend to do CoS or CoE myself
22:02.01NeoTronbecause 5 minute curse is easier while leading the radi
22:02.17NeoTronI know it sounds pathetic but 2 minute or heck worse 30s curses are somewhat annoying to maintain
22:02.58Zhinjiothe bongos_BF addon is very bugged.
22:03.05GagorianWell yeah, casting a curse every 2 minutes is annoying :D
22:03.06JaxonZhinjio: I'm using it fine?
22:03.08Gagorianwasted time!
22:03.41NivFreakclearly SB should have a 5 minute CD
22:03.41NivFreakand just apply a dot that ticks for 10K every 3 seconds
22:03.41ZhinjioJaxon: drag an icon out of a bar
22:03.41Zhinjiofurther, try moving a bar.
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22:03.57NeoTronGagorian: not wasted time but I forget to do it sometimes because I keep track of everything else
22:04.07kergoththe bf backdrop option seems pretty flaky across the board, if thats what you're talking about, not just in bongos
22:04.08Zhinjio"C stack overflow" when moving a button out of a bar
22:04.13kergothyow
22:04.13JaxonZhinjio: both works for me :(
22:04.29Zhinjiook, I am using the backdrop. lemme try turning that off
22:05.37Zhinjionope, same errors
22:06.11Zhinjiomaybe its a function of the skin I picked? (Caith)... trying another one
22:07.21Zhinjionope, same errors.
22:07.30ZhinjioI just did a full update. wtf.
22:07.51JaxonWhich Bongos?
22:08.06ZhinjioBongos3. lemme update that. I haven't in a bit.
22:08.07GagorianAnyone know if there's any plans of Dewdrop-style library for Ace3?
22:08.21GagorianI still prefer Dewdrop for fast configuration
22:08.22Tuller_eeew
22:08.23JaxonZhinjio: I don't thinkt here has been a release in a while.
22:08.52GagorianI still prefer dewdrop for toggle type options that you need to use often
22:09.04GagorianFor static stuff anything works
22:09.22NeoTronah BT4 is on trunk
22:09.23GagorianBut I don't want to open massive menus for a simple toggle
22:09.46BrunersZOMGBuffs and autocasting, what is the deal ?
22:10.36NivFreakroll your mouse wheel?
22:11.24vhaarrGagorian: I agree
22:11.36vhaarrI hate FuBar3, piece of shit config window
22:11.39vhaarrgive me dewdrop any da
22:11.40vhaarrday*
22:11.47NivFreakWWS is fixed apparently
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22:11.52GagorianIndeed. FuBar needs dewdrop tbh
22:12.07GagorianStuff like Pitbull etc can have massive menus since you don't need to change it very often
22:12.21vhaarrfubar could have the config window, but not on RIGHT CLICK
22:12.30vhaarrright click -> Config
22:12.35vhaarrcould be in the *menu*
22:12.58vhaarrso I just use fubar2 instead
22:13.44JaxonI'm not changing FuBa stuff that often
22:13.50kergothlock/unlock is a good example of something you shouldnt need to pull up a config dialog to do
22:15.11NeoTronIs it just me that has the mouse wheel thing not working correctly with zomg? Specifically it seems to break zooming
22:15.23CIA-4103poull * r73033 10PallyPower/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
22:15.23CIA-41PallyPower:
22:15.23CIA-41- Added option for free assignment of blessings.
22:16.50CIA-4103funkydude * r73034 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: Updated blacklist
22:19.26GagorianWell anyway
22:19.41GagorianI vote for Ace3 dewdrop, or not any framework tbh
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22:20.40GagorianCould even perhaps add a pin button in the corner so if you're configuring something more complex you could prevent it from disappearing
22:20.53StanzillaAntiarc was working on a LibStubbed dewdrop
22:20.56kergothi'd vote for only simple entries in the dropdown, execute and checkbox
22:21.01kergothanything more than that should be in a config window imo
22:21.07ZhinjioI was using beta6 of bongos. looks like the 1.1 release doesn't have issues.
22:21.22GagorianHmm need to talk to Antiarc then :O
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22:22.15ckknightkergoth: then why not use what Blizz has?
22:22.19Tuller_if you want a dewdrop, limit it to 2 levels at most :P
22:22.41ZeksieNeoTron: not had it break zooming EVER for me.
22:22.54Zeksiecheck that mousewheel is bound to zoom in your blizz keybinds.
22:22.58NivFreakon akama, is there something that actually causes Sorcerers to spawn?
22:23.27NeoTronZeksie: it kept unbinding it
22:23.35NeoTronor something did
22:23.43NeoTronand I am pretty sure I removed smartbuff
22:23.45ZeksieNeoTron: no. it's not done that for a month or so,. i changed the binding mechanic
22:23.51Zeksieit won't even touch your blizz bindings now
22:24.23Zeksieit uses binding overrides now, which are only ever temporary and are not saved by wow
22:24.23NeoTrondeleted smartbuff to ensure it wasn't loaded in the first place
22:24.26NeoTronwill see again tonight
22:24.50Zeksieit then does a RunBinding on whatever you have it set to atm
22:26.24krage`NivFreak: they just spawn periodically
22:26.38NivFreakso no way to control that?
22:26.45krage`nope
22:27.03NivFreakand does anyone bother with more than one OT on supremous?
22:27.14Chomperswe have 4
22:27.15Chompers:/
22:27.21krage`usually have 3 tanks in there in my guild
22:27.21Zeksiewe use 1
22:27.22JaxonNivFreak: we use 2 OTs
22:27.24NivFreakk
22:27.32JaxonZeksie: do you just not hav emelee DPS?
22:27.33Arrowmasterwe use 2 OTs
22:27.33NeoTronNivFreak: usually 3 because we use 3 for the trash so why not?
22:27.44Zeksiesure we do. they all click off stamina buff
22:27.48Zeksieand kings
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22:28.10NeoTronZeksie: ... why?
22:28.30Zeksiecos hateful strike hits person with highest hp
22:28.30NeoTronYou do know that Supremus strike is threat based right, not health?
22:28.30Zeksiewho's not the MT
22:28.32Zeksieit's health
22:28.35Chompersits health
22:28.36Zeksieread the tooltip
22:28.38Arrowmasterits both
22:28.52Zeksie"a threatening target with highest hp"
22:29.10NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33813
22:29.17NeoTronerr wrong one
22:29.35Zeksiewhen my rogue had 13k hp, he'd die all the time. with 10k, it's never a problem
22:29.36NeoTronwas it always hateful strike?
22:29.50NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=41926
22:30.23NeoTronor did they change it?
22:31.31krage`that's the right one
22:31.46CIA-4103gagorian * r73035 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.toc Melee.lua):
22:31.46CIA-41DrDamage:
22:31.46CIA-41- Fixed error on line 1215 Melee.lua
22:31.46CIA-41- TOC bump to 1.5.0
22:31.56NeoTronI know the difference, just had no clue he did a hateful strike - always thought it was hurtful
22:32.50krage`erm
22:33.11krage`its been the hp based one for several months at least
22:33.27krage`it may have been a hurtful at first though
22:34.01NeoTronI'm going to check an old WWS
22:34.02kergothSnago:  ping
22:34.04Psycho|WorkPretty sure it's always been hateful.
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22:36.49NeoTronbeen hateful since november at least
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22:41.06LywellynNeoTron: Y'know, that quote all by itself takes on a new meaning. lol
22:42.02NeoTronindeed
22:42.14Snagokergoth: pong
22:43.16kergothSnago:  its possible for a single UNIT_ENERGY to occur after multiple energy changes.  if you spend 60 energy with an ability, then gain 40 back, the delta is 20, and your ouf ticker will misidentify it as a tick.
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22:43.59kergothi had to track all energy gains and expenditures in kenergy and ticktock to make it always identify a tick as a tick
22:44.09kergoth(and nothing else)
22:44.37kergothi'm sure its relatively rare for rogues without combat potency and relentless strikes, but..
22:46.08SnagoHmm.. That's nice to know. I'll take a look at what needs to be done to track it more accuratly
22:46.56kergothSnago:  http://git.kergoth.com/wow/TickTock.git?a=blob;f=tick.lua;h=e3d8ed14837e0e4d882f897e8bbfd05dbd3a2143;hb=HEAD
22:47.12kergothsee the pending/anticipated stuff
22:47.24kergothits a lot simpler post 2.4, heh
22:48.16SnagoBut I don't think it's so bad.. It will resync next tick for 20 anyway. It's still better than PitBulls energy ticker that resync on every energy gain
22:48.39kergotheww
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22:49.51Snagokergoth: ahh.. Thanks for the piece of code.. I'll see what I can do with it tomorrow :)
22:50.34kergoth:)
22:50.53kergothticktock can actually be used as your ouf ticker, you can set its background to transparent so its just a spark
22:51.01kergothbut that requires more setup, less easy for a user
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22:52.28Snagomy ouf ticker also works as a 5sec rule indicator for mana users :)
22:52.48kergoththats nice
22:53.03kergothi've only ever seen one good standalone 5sec indicator, and thats nabufivesec, and i dont think its really maintained
22:54.23Snagohmm.. Maybe I should make it more than an oUF module :)
22:55.17chiperpitbull's 5SR spark doesnt always work.  been a little annoyed at that
22:56.11Snagochiper: yes, it happens when there's too much delay between the SPELL_CAST_SUCCEDED and the UNIT_MANA that lowers your mana
22:56.38SnagoPitBull will ignore it if there's more than 250 ms between
22:56.41GagorianIs there any setting to make tortoise not download externals on SVN updates?
22:57.07HjalteGagorian: I'm annoyed at that too :)
22:57.26chiperso basically if I'm having UI lag, it wont work :/
22:57.36chiperexplains why it breaks in raids
22:57.43SnagoGagorian: SVN Update to revision and tick the box "Omit externals"
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22:58.20GagorianI see, thanks
22:59.12Snagochiper: you can find the number on line 205 in Spark.lua. Change 0.25 to something higher. I'm using 1 in oUF_PowerSpark
22:59.37chiperok, thanks
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23:03.05Snagokergoth: Am I reading it right that the TickTock code will properly catch those odd 19-21 ticks as real ticks?
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23:05.33CIA-4103gagorian * r73036 10FishingAce/FishingAce.toc:
23:05.33CIA-41FishingAce:
23:05.33CIA-41- Removed TabletLib, Deformat, GratuityLib and ItemBonusLib from OptDepts and X-Embeds since they were used nowhere in the addon. Strange stuff!
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23:06.05LywellynMmm...two swords I'd love to own....Frostmourne and Anduril. >:)
23:06.57CIA-4103morgalm 07Morgalm * r73037 10Incubator/ (Core.lua IncubatorFuBar.lua):
23:06.57CIA-41Incubator:
23:06.58CIA-41- Fixed timers and death rezoning
23:06.58CIA-41- Timers again resume properly (candybars) EXCEPT if you are in tracked zone and need to reloadui disable the mod FIRST!
23:06.58CIA-41- Fixed candybars apparently not restarting 1/2 way through an instance (hopefully)
23:07.04kergothSnago:  yes, it does
23:07.18kergotheven a tick of 24, which i've seen before
23:07.33PeoiiLywellyn: If I recall correctly, you're a mage, which means you, like I, will never have access to such wonders :P  And even if they do give us an legendary the warlock version will be superior... so no guild in their right mind would give us one :P
23:07.34Snagonice :)
23:07.37kergothgotta love blizzard *cough* consistency
23:07.52Peoiiisn't bitter at all about Atiesh.
23:08.11LywellynMage or no mage, I'm talking about real life. :p
23:08.25Peoiioh, well where's the fun in that? ;)
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23:09.03cog|workhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6286642499&sid=1 if anyone cares...
23:09.09LywellynTo actually own Frostmourne and Anduril?? o_O
23:10.03kergothSnago:  you're welcome to grab the code for your own use, our addons have different scopes anyway
23:10.56charoncog|work: perhaps point it out to kaelten
23:11.10cog|workKaelten: ^
23:11.13cog|work;)
23:11.19Kaelten:S
23:11.22Kaeltenfook
23:11.46cog|workNO U
23:11.48Kolie296 people, and only one person split
23:11.50Kolieyay
23:12.42Gagorianwell it was some crack server
23:12.48Snagokergoth: Thank you. I'll dissect it and see how much of it I want to use tomorrow. First I need sleep. Waay past my bedtime...
23:13.18NivFreakhrmm
23:13.21kergothheh, night
23:13.36NivFreakif we can heal through VR's pounding on the entire raid, it looks like naj is going to be free loot...
23:14.39NivFreakI want a mod that just gives me a list of people below X health and/or mana at any given point
23:14.42NivFreakis there one?
23:15.36vhaarrdon't worry, you'll be spam healing anyway
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23:16.58NivFreakI won't be
23:16.59NivFreak;P
23:17.10NivFreaknot until warriors get heals
23:17.13NivFreak(do it!)
23:18.15chiperroll a draneai
23:18.27NivFreakalliance is not for me
23:18.37NivFreakmy rogue continues to rot at 42
23:18.37NivFreakon tich
23:19.01chiperpoppycock, you just dont want to abandon your friend base
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23:27.37Diaohmm
23:28.02Diaois there a way to remove the alt-selfcast binding from bindings-cache.wtf and have it save?
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23:36.46CIA-4103gagorian * r73038 10Automaton/ (. Automaton.toc):
23:36.46CIA-41Automaton:
23:36.46CIA-41- Removed GratuityLib and Waterfall from .toc/libs as they aren't referenced to once in the addon
23:37.34vhaarrGagorian: but not from embeds.xml?
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23:38.04Zhinjiockknight: ping
23:38.14Gagorianvhaarr: Good point!
23:38.18ckknightpong, Zhinjio
23:39.09CIA-4103gagorian * r73039 10Automaton/embeds.xml:
23:39.09CIA-41Automaton:
23:39.09CIA-41- And from embeds.xml. Thanks vhaarr
23:39.20Zhinjiois there somthing in pitbull that controls.... hmm. ... nm.
23:39.25ZhinjioI think I found it.
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23:41.39GagorianSpecialEventsEmbed (SE-Mount) and DurabilityFu still uses the 'old' GratuityLib
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23:41.42GagorianBut I dare not touch them
23:41.45Gagoriansomebody else can fix
23:42.39xyu`I have a quick question.   SOmeone tried to invite me and it closed the invite window....
23:42.43xyu`automatically
23:42.45xyu`now i can't get any more invites
23:42.52xyu`and yes i've done /script LeaveParty()
23:43.09Gagorianreload/relog?
23:43.13xyu`done both
23:43.22ArrowmasterGagorian: i forget, is the new one libstub or rock?
23:43.31xyu`i've disabled all addons.
23:43.36Zeksieget leader to do /script UninviteByName("you")
23:43.40GagorianArrowmaster: LibStub and AceLibrary compat layer
23:44.13xyu`w/ quotes and paranthesese?
23:44.15xyu`Zeksie
23:44.43Zeksieye. forget the exact func name. maybe UninviteUnit. look it up. i have to go :)
23:44.54Zeksiewill fix it tho
23:47.25xyu`Zeksie: that worked thanks.
23:47.35Zeksie:)
23:48.31CIA-4103morgalm * r73040 10MorgDKP/ (5 files):
23:48.31CIA-41MorgDKP:
23:48.31CIA-41- fixed R&J registering kill multiple times if they revive each other
23:48.31CIA-41- fixed chess loot being in run event
23:48.31CIA-41- fixed icon not changing on manual disable
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23:53.31NeoTronany brutallus mages around? Curious how much dps penalty you'd typically take for being the scorch maintainer
23:54.13CIA-4103funkydude * r73041 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist
23:55.06chiperscorch maintainer?  shouldnt every fire mage have scorch already in their rotation?
23:55.24NeoTronyou only need one doing it
23:55.58NeoTronso higher dps if just one mage does it
23:56.43chiperrealizes this is an elitist topic and backs away slowely
23:57.15Lywellynchiper:  <-- fire mage that *never* uses scorch :3
23:57.25NeoTronelitist no, but zomg need to kill Brutallus in 6 minutes ...
23:57.44NeoTronwe never enraged with the raid alive and failed
23:57.49PeoiiI scorch one in every 15 casts once the rotation is up
23:57.50NeoTronbut we're always right after enrage
23:57.52chiper<- arcane mages that never needs scorch
23:57.56chiper-s
23:58.04NeoTronPeoii: Brutallus WWS by chance? :P
23:58.05Peoiiscorchio ftw.
23:58.13CIA-4103gagorian * r73042 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/ (FuBar_SoulJarFu.toc SoulJarFu.lua embeds.xml libs/):
23:58.13CIA-41FuBar_SoulJarFu:
23:58.13CIA-41- Removed CrayonLib dependancy
23:58.13CIA-41- Added embeds.xml
23:58.44PeoiiNeoTron: We don't use WWS for our progression stuff... only farm content.  We've got our own WWS-like site (written by me) that we use for that :P
23:59.01Lywellynkinda freaky there are a lot of mountain lions in Hillsbrad that don't have any blood....
23:59.07GagorianWe killed today at 5m27s, was pretty nice raid dps
23:59.32NeoTronPeoii: curious what kind of dps you'd do as a scorch mage
23:59.42NeoTronLywellyn: zombie lions
23:59.47PeoiiNeoTron: define "scorch mage"?
23:59.49LywellynAh, that's true.
23:59.52NeoTronwhat is SoulJarFu?

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