| 00:00.23 | Annul | unzip it to the addon folder? |
| 00:01.28 | ulic | yep, just treat it like any other addon |
| 00:02.08 | Annul | is it supposed to not show up in the addon folder? |
| 00:02.10 | Annul | erm |
| 00:02.12 | Annul | addon button |
| 00:02.13 | Annul | in wow |
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| 00:17.51 | Arrowmaster | it does show up in wow |
| 00:18.03 | Arrowmaster | you need to restart wow after installing it |
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| 00:26.24 | stew_a | i have a guildie asking if i know of any "hello kitty island adventure unitframes", anyone ever seen any? |
| 00:26.51 | Groktar | whoa |
| 00:26.59 | ulic | I know there is hello kitty stuff, dunno about UF |
| 00:28.12 | Aeyan | [url=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/wow0408-party.jpg][img]http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/th_wow0408-party.jpg[/img][/url] |
| 00:28.16 | Aeyan | Whoops |
| 00:28.22 | Aeyan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html |
| 00:28.23 | Aeyan | There |
| 00:28.43 | Aeyan | Not exactly their own UF, but... enjoy! |
| 00:28.59 | Aeyan | By the way, I hope you feel unclean just for asking. |
| 00:31.03 | stew_a | i dont, but i hope my guildie does |
| 00:31.31 | stew_a | then again with a name like snugglewugz he's probably used to it :P |
| 00:31.38 | Allara | lol |
| 00:32.19 | Allara | that's gotta be the most disgusting UI I've ever seen :| |
| 00:32.28 | Aeyan | Quite |
| 00:32.28 | stew_a | and does anyone know of an addon that uses LGP to put markers on the minimap? |
| 00:32.47 | ckknight | what's the best spec for leveling a druid? |
| 00:32.49 | stew_a | (this is for me this time :_) |
| 00:33.02 | Jaxon | ckknight: I used feral, was rather quick. |
| 00:33.14 | Aeyan | Feral is probably easiest |
| 00:33.36 | Gagorian | Feral, indeed. |
| 00:33.40 | Jaxon | Rather, am using feral, my druid is 63 |
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| 00:37.30 | NivFreak | god damn server crashes |
| 00:39.30 | mykx | Antiarc: are you around ? |
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| 00:46.43 | Apoco | what time is [Ammo] usually on? |
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| 00:58.39 | pastamancer | gah, why is chatter tainting my raid window |
| 00:59.15 | JoshBork1 | because antiarc sucks at coding |
| 00:59.49 | JJSheets | lol |
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| 01:02.09 | Cryect | SHould cuss him out next time you see him and complain why his service sucks and why there is bugs |
| 01:03.01 | JJSheets | bitch about a refund too, just to see his veins pop and bleed. |
| 01:03.42 | pastamancer | Antiarc: ! |
| 01:03.47 | Hydrogen | I hate blizzard. |
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| 01:04.38 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
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| 01:04.51 | JJSheets | hiya |
| 01:04.54 | Xelopheris | Bonjour. |
| 01:05.22 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: you fucking suck and i fucking hat you. your service is awful and full of bugs because you're too busy juggling everything else to work on your damn mods that you produce in your free time. sleep less and code wow full time you bastard |
| 01:05.24 | JoshBorke | Cryect: how's that? |
| 01:05.33 | Cryect | pretty good |
| 01:05.34 | Hydrogen | HEY I JUST HAD A GREAT IDEA |
| 01:05.39 | Cryect | should bitch at me later as well! |
| 01:05.45 | Hydrogen | LETS PUT TIER 6 ITEMS ON A BADGE VENDOR |
| 01:05.53 | Hydrogen | so that people never want to raid again! |
| 01:05.54 | Annul | HEY AWESOME |
| 01:06.13 | Cryect | your guild stop raiding or something? |
| 01:06.17 | Hydrogen | pretty much |
| 01:06.18 | JoshBorke | Cryect: gd you cryect you lazy bastard. when are you gonna finish relog and recount2 and make your map mod useful |
| 01:06.22 | JJSheets | you're just jealous you didn't think of it first. |
| 01:06.34 | Hobby | maybe a stupid question.. |
| 01:06.44 | Hobby | but anything fubar that would show my current group number? |
| 01:06.49 | Hydrogen | If I see "Anyone up for kara" in guild chat one more time.. |
| 01:07.00 | Hobby | grid is hidden sometimes and it'd be handy |
| 01:07.02 | JJSheets | ~comfort Hydrogen |
| 01:07.05 | purl | There, there, Hydrogen. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 01:07.10 | Cryect | I just have stopped playing wow since you quit JoshBorke so who knows ;) |
| 01:07.20 | Cryect | just not the same without your loving whispers |
| 01:08.09 | JoshBorke | aw, sorry cryect |
| 01:08.15 | JoshBorke | you can spend more time with your gf this way |
| 01:08.39 | JJSheets | lol |
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| 01:11.03 | Xelopheris | wow @ muru |
| 01:11.24 | buu | Hrm |
| 01:11.32 | buu | Can anyone recommend an assessment like mod that .. actually works? |
| 01:12.06 | durcyn | there are a couple of partially functional assessment branches |
| 01:13.35 | buu | Yeah, I've been trying them |
| 01:13.43 | buu | The number of random errors is making me dubious |
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| 01:18.35 | dantor | does anybody now "MegaMacro"? |
| 01:18.40 | dantor | know* |
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| 01:24.25 | Apoco | Muru phase2 is fun |
| 01:30.16 | CIA-40 | 03jjsheets * r72697 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_ButtonTypes.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Dropping the highest rank spell you know onto a standard button will automatically force IB2 to use the highest rank, even after gaining a new rank. Lower Rank spells work as intended. |
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| 01:37.19 | Funkeh` | hi folks |
| 01:38.00 | Xelopheris | Bonjour! |
| 01:38.16 | Xelopheris | apoco, funner than learning twins backwards instead of giong ot muru on tuesday? |
| 01:38.59 | mykx | Xelopheris: we're doing that fight now and our raid keeps failing with conflag heh |
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| 01:40.28 | Xelopheris | once youg eti it, it just clicks |
| 01:40.45 | Funkeh` | oh man |
| 01:40.56 | Funkeh` | catching up with 6 days of commits ftl |
| 01:40.57 | mykx | we haven't killed them the "easy" way but we're learning the "hard" way first :\ |
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| 01:41.56 | Xelopheris | the "hard" way is easier |
| 01:42.20 | mykx | I hear that once the first bitch dies its free loot but eh 40% so far on the first |
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| 01:45.08 | Xelopheris | if you do it the easy way, p2 is copmlicated but easy. If you do it the hard way, it's just a burn |
| 01:46.18 | mykx | hrm yeah burn to us means conflag the raid |
| 01:47.36 | Xelopheris | doing it shadow first there's no conflag in p2 |
| 01:48.43 | mykx | yeah its just pop heros and win eh |
| 01:48.53 | Xelopheris | Reroll first, then pop bloodlust, then win |
| 01:49.02 | mykx | lol |
| 01:49.13 | Xelopheris | And you should use it in p1 unless your tanks suck, because the faster you get the first twin down the easier the fight is |
| 01:49.44 | mykx | I'm having issues in P1 with omen not calculating threat properly so i'm twiddling my thumbs for a bit before dpsing |
| 01:50.06 | mykx | with the confounding blow or whatever |
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| 02:22.17 | starlon | cknight: Does carto3 have instance maps? |
| 02:23.26 | CIA-40 | 03jjsheets * r72698 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 02:23.26 | CIA-40 | ButtonFacade: |
| 02:23.26 | CIA-40 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:34.16 | ckknight | starlon: not yet |
| 02:35.15 | starlon | k |
| 02:35.29 | ckknight | starlon: I've been really busy with curseforge |
| 02:36.08 | starlon | I bet. :) |
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| 02:36.45 | CIA-40 | 03ackis * r72699 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 02:36.45 | CIA-40 | Incubator: |
| 02:36.45 | CIA-40 | - Added missing M'uru trash |
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| 02:42.18 | RaydenU | i always end up joining the ZA group the week we have 1 tank, or a new tank |
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| 02:47.14 | CIA-40 | 03funkydude * r72700 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: added to blacklist |
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| 03:06.57 | Groktar | felmyst at 32% :( |
| 03:07.08 | Groktar | first bad call all night |
| 03:07.11 | Groktar | with the whole raid up |
| 03:07.17 | Groktar | ahead of the enrage |
| 03:07.33 | Apoco | felmyst has an enrage? |
| 03:08.02 | Groktar | 10m |
| 03:08.12 | Groktar | we haven't hit it yet |
| 03:08.21 | Apoco | never knew |
| 03:08.26 | Apoco | never had the fight last than 6 |
| 03:11.48 | Apoco | [Ammo]! |
| 03:11.51 | Apoco | pingpong |
| 03:15.57 | CIA-40 | 03neotron * r72701 10MagicDKP_Client/MagicDKP_Client.lua: MagicDKP_Client: Added queue of events in case a new event is received while a check is in progress. Add support for sending raid id in response. |
| 03:16.28 | CIA-40 | 03neotron * r72702 10MagicComm/MagicComm/MagicComm.lua: MagicComm: Send raid ID in standby check and response. |
| 03:18.07 | CIA-40 | 03neotron * r72703 10MagicDKP/ (Config.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua MagicDKP.lua): |
| 03:18.07 | CIA-40 | MagicDKP: |
| 03:18.08 | CIA-40 | - Add display of attendees/standby attendees in the raid log. |
| 03:18.08 | CIA-40 | - Store and export class, level etc of attendees. |
| 03:18.10 | CIA-40 | - Added rudimentary support for alts (see /md alt for details). |
| 03:18.12 | CIA-40 | - Send raid ID in standby checks. |
| 03:18.14 | CIA-40 | - Added support to limit standby checks to certain guild ranks. |
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| 03:31.37 | Groktar | FELMYST DOOON |
| 03:35.51 | Obelixprime | grats |
| 03:36.10 | Groktar | triple vanquisher again! |
| 03:36.20 | Groktar | we got triple vanq of brut/kalec last week |
| 03:36.29 | Groktar | and triple vanq of all three this week |
| 03:36.47 | mykx | heh we have a conq curse i'm pretty sure |
| 03:37.04 | Groktar | we don't ever get conq |
| 03:37.05 | mykx | prot/vanq out the ass and perhaps 1 piece of conq per first 3 bosses |
| 03:37.22 | Groktar | it wouldn't be bad if we were get prot/vanq |
| 03:37.26 | Groktar | but we get ALL vanq |
| 03:38.30 | mykx | lol oh well your locks will have DKP saved for any non t6 loots and your mages will QQ |
| 03:47.00 | Apoco | all of our druids have 8p t6 for all 3 specs |
| 03:47.03 | Apoco | all we get is vanq |
| 03:47.05 | Apoco | ffs |
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| 03:55.00 | CIA-40 | 03grayhoof * r72704 10sct/ (sct.lua sct_events.lua): sct: Fix for custom event bugs |
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| 04:05.19 | Antiarc | Man |
| 04:05.27 | Antiarc | I apparently needed sleep more than I thought |
| 04:05.34 | Antiarc | I just took a 9-hour nap |
| 04:05.50 | JJSheets | lol |
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| 04:06.48 | VonhintenHOME` | It's not sleep until you hit 12 |
| 04:06.53 | VonhintenHOME` | That's a power nap |
| 04:07.03 | Antiarc | I can pull off a 14-hour all-night sleep pretty easily |
| 04:07.09 | Antiarc | But this was a noon-to-9-PM nap |
| 04:07.19 | VonhintenHOME` | ouch, now you're all fucked up |
| 04:07.24 | Antiarc | After I woke up at 8 AM |
| 04:07.30 | Silverstorm_ | wow...yeah, that would mess me up bad |
| 04:07.33 | Antiarc | Fortunately I work for myself, so I can just work all night or whatever |
| 04:07.59 | mykx | Antiarc: pretty sure the confounding blow(eredar twins) on omen isn't being dealt with properly. well I know this as I pulled aggro once and it's kinda annoying |
| 04:08.19 | Antiarc | What's confounding blow do? |
| 04:08.25 | Antiarc | <-- (still on Brutallus) |
| 04:08.28 | mykx | it lowers the tanks threat that its cast upon |
| 04:08.30 | mykx | temporarily |
| 04:08.34 | Hydrogen | confounds you! |
| 04:08.46 | Hydrogen | hmm |
| 04:08.50 | Hydrogen | that doesn't make sense |
| 04:08.51 | Antiarc | That's a confuse effect? Not a threat modifier? |
| 04:08.57 | Hydrogen | I'd be a lot more threatened by someone that was confounded |
| 04:09.01 | Hydrogen | than someone that wasn't |
| 04:09.01 | Antiarc | Like blind |
| 04:09.04 | mykx | lemme find out exactly |
| 04:09.07 | Silverstorm_ | got some interesting behavior in LibBars tonight while testing my dot timer on Illidan...random font changes (and I haven't done any display customizing). |
| 04:09.12 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45256#used-by-npc |
| 04:09.24 | Antiarc | That's bizarre. o.0 |
| 04:09.32 | mykx | yeah I guess its a confuse but I know it drops their threat while they have it |
| 04:09.46 | mykx | all I know is I couldn't use omen as a guide tonight because I would be pulling aggro if I did |
| 04:09.52 | dylanm | Because they aren't smacking. |
| 04:10.20 | Antiarc | "drops their threat while they have it" doesn't make any sense |
| 04:10.24 | Antiarc | Mobs ignore CCd players |
| 04:10.30 | Antiarc | Confound is a CC |
| 04:10.34 | Antiarc | So mobs will ignore tanks with it |
| 04:10.53 | mykx | I know this is a player writeup and not the actual spell ability but |
| 04:10.54 | mykx | Confounding Blow: Confounds the target for 6 seconds, dealing 7353-9947 Shadow damage. Cannot occur more than once every 25 seconds. Any aggro the target had will be lost |
| 04:10.55 | Antiarc | Doesn't mean their threat changes, just that the mob doesn't consider the tank a valid target while there are other targets to be had. |
| 04:11.08 | Antiarc | Yes, that's due to the mob targeting AI |
| 04:11.12 | Antiarc | Threat doesn't actually change. |
| 04:11.23 | mykx | like I'm 99% sure it effects threat because I pulled during the blow twice |
| 04:11.35 | Hydrogen | think of it like fear :) |
| 04:11.38 | dylanm | It's going to go for next-highest. |
| 04:11.46 | dylanm | Or uh |
| 04:11.46 | Antiarc | Fear's a bad example because feared tanks keep aggro now |
| 04:11.48 | Arrowmaster | they changed fear |
| 04:11.51 | Antiarc | To keep Fear Ward fro mbeing OP |
| 04:11.54 | Hydrogen | oh |
| 04:11.56 | Antiarc | Gouge is a better example |
| 04:11.58 | Hydrogen | didn't know that |
| 04:12.00 | dylanm | Well you know what I mean :p |
| 04:12.02 | Hydrogen | thats.. odd |
| 04:12.43 | Hydrogen | I assume the solutionw ould be an offtank? |
| 04:12.53 | mykx | we have 2 tanks during the fight on her |
| 04:12.55 | Antiarc | I would assume so |
| 04:13.01 | Antiarc | Or just stop DPS during confound |
| 04:13.05 | Hydrogen | or be very good at kiting! |
| 04:13.07 | Antiarc | Depending on the mechanic used |
| 04:13.09 | Hydrogen | or bear bum tank it |
| 04:13.23 | Hydrogen | nah, that wouldn't work actually |
| 04:13.27 | Hydrogen | as its not gouge |
| 04:13.29 | mykx | lets say bob has 90k threat, bill has 80k threat, bill gets confounding blow he doesn't return with 90k threat afaik |
| 04:13.34 | mykx | thats what im trying to say |
| 04:13.36 | Hydrogen | so probably could be done from behind |
| 04:13.52 | Antiarc | mykx: I need exact modifiers/multipliers/empirical tests to do anything with it |
| 04:14.05 | mykx | like I shattered aftering pulling and despite omen saying the tanks were way ahead I still had aggro |
| 04:14.23 | mykx | would a combatlog parse help any ? |
| 04:14.30 | Antiarc | Not really |
| 04:14.41 | Antiarc | There's a lot of threat information not available in a combat log parse. |
| 04:15.03 | mykx | I mean it's not a game breaking thing to have to use your brain to work out threat for once but just thought I would tell you |
| 04:15.31 | Antiarc | I suspect it's something like tanks overreporting (since that's shown up on other encounters too) |
| 04:15.51 | Hydrogen | "In my day, people using threat meters were considdered noobs who didn't know how to play!" |
| 04:15.51 | vhaarr | Soul Shatter wouldn't make any difference as long as the tank is still under the effect you'll still have aggro. |
| 04:16.31 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=40486 http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32959 |
| 04:16.40 | Antiarc | Both of those are threat reducers, and both have a script effect attached |
| 04:16.44 | Antiarc | Confound doesn't |
| 04:16.51 | vhaarr | and then, if I'm not mistaken, after coming free from the spell, the tank has to physically hit the target to get back on its target list |
| 04:17.56 | mykx | hrm well I could be wrong but it just seemed like the tanks had such shit aggro in reality but were listed as being way ahead |
| 04:18.12 | Antiarc | Overreporting is more likely :) |
| 04:18.19 | Antiarc | I have a couple of bug reports I'm working on |
| 04:18.32 | Antiarc | I do appreciate you looking out for stuff like that though |
| 04:18.40 | mykx | no worries |
| 04:20.59 | Hydrogen | Nod, overreporting seems to be hpapening.. our warlocks were pulling aggro at 100% in za the other night |
| 04:21.03 | Hydrogen | on a salvless run :/ |
| 04:21.11 | Hydrogen | no salv makes me cry |
| 04:22.58 | Silverstorm_ | Antiarc: LibBars bug I noticed tonight: once a timer bar starts flashing, if the timer is reset (use case: refreshing dot) it won't stop flashing. I can handle it from my end, but that requires me knowing when the bar should start flashing, and it's hardcoded at 5 seconds in the lib. |
| 04:23.35 | *** part/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-179-21.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 04:23.51 | Silverstorm_ | I think ideally, the time to start flashing would be customizable |
| 04:24.51 | Silverstorm_ | and then check during SetTimer if it should be flashing or not. |
| 04:26.10 | Ackis | is m'uru male or female? |
| 04:26.40 | Hydrogen | not sure if anyones had the opportunity to do a detailed investigation of that yet |
| 04:26.56 | Silverstorm_ | ask the tanks...don't they stare at crotches all night? |
| 04:27.59 | Antiarc | You can call :StopFlash() on resetting a bar as a stopgap |
| 04:28.10 | Antiarc | :StopFlash while it isn't flashing is harmless |
| 04:28.19 | Antiarc | (but it should be called on init, likely) |
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| 04:32.07 | Obelixprime | within ORA2 MainTank window, I was having issues clicking on the the Main Tanks' targets... like it would take 2-3 clicks to actually target them |
| 04:32.15 | Obelixprime | anyone else experiencing similar issues? |
| 04:32.48 | Obelixprime | also, i think a similar issue, i'm having trouble clicking the chat tab when I go to my social window |
| 04:32.58 | Obelixprime | now that I think about it, they're roughly placed in the same spot |
| 04:37.23 | Silverstorm_ | Alright, tried that...unfortunately, "self.timeLeftTriggers[k] = true" was already set. Guess I can unset that, though :-p |
| 04:40.44 | Antiarc | Hrm |
| 04:40.54 | Antiarc | I just need to fix it to call :StopFlashing when a bar is initialized. |
| 04:42.40 | Silverstorm_ | well, this issue is appearing because it isn't when the bar is initialized. It's when a dot is refreshed, and the bar hasn't disappeared yet |
| 04:43.32 | Silverstorm_ | calling at init would be good, but I think something needs to be checked during a SetTimer call. |
| 04:44.00 | Silverstorm_ | it's not critical yet, I have a ways to go before releasing the mod, so no hurry :-p |
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| 04:51.45 | Groktar | so i was tanking souls |
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| 04:52.03 | Groktar | and i didn't realize until about 10 seconds into p2 that spell reflect wasn't on my bars |
| 04:52.55 | Aiiane | lol |
| 04:53.24 | Groktar | i spellbooked it |
| 04:53.25 | Groktar | >.> |
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| 04:54.52 | Aiiane | pfft |
| 04:54.55 | Aiiane | true players use /cast |
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| 04:56.53 | Hydrogen | trueer players telnet to the wow servers |
| 04:56.58 | Hydrogen | and type REALLY REALLY FAST |
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| 05:01.09 | starlon | we need more action bars |
| 05:04.49 | CIA-40 | 03toadkiller * r72705 10AutoBar/ (13 files): |
| 05:04.49 | CIA-40 | AutoBar : |
| 05:04.49 | CIA-40 | -- New Macro button for Category Items to create a Custom Macro item, first cut |
| 05:04.49 | CIA-40 | -- Editable Name and macro text field. |
| 05:14.57 | CIA-40 | 03neotron * r72706 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Don't attempt to get unit ID/guid if the unit doesn't exist. |
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| 05:28.02 | Apoco | Muru down by SK |
| 05:28.08 | Apoco | wow |
| 05:28.34 | Fix[EJ] | yeah |
| 05:28.43 | Fix[EJ] | happened last night, no? |
| 05:29.12 | Apoco | 2:55am cst |
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| 05:30.11 | VeXeD | Okay, someone needs to develope a mod like Solarian alarm, but for conflag on Eredar twins |
| 05:30.26 | Hydrogen | ... |
| 05:30.29 | VeXeD | LOl :p |
| 05:30.32 | Hydrogen | I heard |
| 05:30.32 | starlon | VeXeD: DebuffAlarm |
| 05:30.33 | Apoco | LOL |
| 05:30.39 | VeXeD | Starlon, BRILLIANT! |
| 05:30.40 | Apoco | l2 read chat |
| 05:30.41 | Hydrogen | that |
| 05:30.48 | VeXeD | Only hting is |
| 05:30.50 | Hydrogen | well |
| 05:30.52 | Hydrogen | here |
| 05:30.52 | VeXeD | conflag = cast |
| 05:30.54 | Apoco | it only says "Soandso directs conflag at bleh" |
| 05:30.55 | Hydrogen | i'll write a mod |
| 05:30.57 | Apoco | in the chat log |
| 05:31.00 | Hydrogen | it'll be really simple |
| 05:31.06 | Hydrogen | If anyone stands in it |
| 05:31.10 | Hydrogen | they will be gkicked |
| 05:31.13 | Apoco | BigWigs flashes your screen, RBM shakes/flashes |
| 05:31.18 | Apoco | dunno what DBM does |
| 05:31.28 | Hydrogen | that will prevent it ever happening again |
| 05:31.31 | Hydrogen | on future encounters |
| 05:31.38 | VeXeD | Oh, Bigwigs flashes it now? |
| 05:31.45 | VeXeD | I need to update that then.. |
| 05:31.55 | Apoco | according to my guild it does |
| 05:32.02 | durcyn | yes, BW can do flash and shake |
| 05:32.36 | VeXeD | I just wiped our raid because i was busy spellstealing pyrogenics and didn't realise what *AGGRO* meant |
| 05:32.47 | Hydrogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.50 | VeXeD | srsly. |
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| 05:33.36 | JJSheets | night ya'll |
| 05:35.21 | mykx | heh VeXeD: you dont use focus for conflag? |
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| 05:35.37 | VeXeD | Mykx, hmm? |
| 05:35.49 | mykx | [VeXeD]: Okay, someone needs to develope a mod like Solarian alarm, but for conflag on Eredar twins |
| 05:36.16 | mykx | /focus red bitch = win |
| 05:36.23 | VeXeD | I'm using focus |
| 05:36.25 | Gary13579 | solarian alarm is like the most annoying shit ever |
| 05:36.32 | VeXeD | But I still fuck up ;p |
| 05:36.38 | VeXeD | Dude, you can't miss solarian alarm |
| 05:36.38 | Gary13579 | everyone in my guild was like "DOWNLOAD IT NOW WTF WHY DON'T YOU HAVE IT" |
| 05:37.02 | Gary13579 | my response is always "because I'm not a terribad that can't miss fucking bolts of lightning shooting out of me. |
| 05:37.08 | mykx | wait VeXeD, are you that mage that conflaged our raid tonight 5 times in a row ? |
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| 05:39.00 | Gary13579 | oddly enough |
| 05:39.15 | Gary13579 | I never ever ever have fucked up on solarian |
| 05:39.46 | mykx | no me either or conflag but I have been mced on felmyst a couple of times farming shards on the skeles :o |
| 05:40.17 | Antiarc | Solarian's just Geddon Lite. |
| 05:40.18 | VeXeD | Mykx, no :p |
| 05:40.43 | VeXeD | Yeah, I just fucked up first time ever getting conflag :\ |
| 05:40.46 | VeXeD | never fucked up on solarian though |
| 05:40.51 | mykx | this guy would be like "its a good thing i'm getting conflag I can blink away" and no joke wiped the raid roughly 5 times |
| 05:41.11 | VeXeD | we're trying to do them reveresed with 21 people |
| 05:41.12 | VeXeD | lol! |
| 05:41.21 | VeXeD | and 3 pug players. |
| 05:41.34 | mykx | sounds fun with randoms in the raid lo |
| 05:41.47 | VeXeD | guildies didn't show up |
| 05:41.50 | VeXeD | wanted to learn |
| 05:42.33 | starlon | madness |
| 05:42.43 | VeXeD | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.53 | Fix[EJ] | Has the WAU been acting funky lately for anyone else? Seems like I have to manually right click -> update an addon intead of f10/"update all installed addons" working |
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| 05:52.27 | Hydrogen | best part about geddon |
| 05:52.44 | Hydrogen | was back when ctra had the whisper people with debuff enabled by default |
| 05:52.54 | Hydrogen | and you'd get 36 whispers saying YOU ARE THE BOMB!!! |
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| 05:58.57 | starlon | well it'd be hard to miss that wall of text |
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| 06:01.16 | theoddone33 | someone just told me about /script SILVER_PER_GOLD=xyz |
| 06:01.20 | theoddone33 | fun to play with |
| 06:01.35 | theoddone33 | now I "have" 9 million gold! |
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| 06:03.21 | Cyrez | The max cash you can have is (2^31)-1 copper. |
| 06:04.00 | Pkekyo| | 07:59starlonwell it'd be hard to miss that wall of text <--- and still, half the raid always did :P |
| 06:05.08 | theoddone33 | how much is that? |
| 06:05.15 | theoddone33 | 2 million gold? |
| 06:05.20 | theoddone33 | 200 thousand? |
| 06:05.59 | theoddone33 | lua> ((2 ** 31) -1) / 10000 |
| 06:06.00 | lua_bot | theoddone33: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '*' |
| 06:06.04 | theoddone33 | I lose |
| 06:06.19 | theoddone33 | lua> ((exp (2, 31)-1) / 10000 |
| 06:06.19 | lua_bot | theoddone33: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 06:06.40 | theoddone33 | lua> (exp(2, 31)-1 /10000 |
| 06:06.40 | lua_bot | theoddone33: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 06:06.45 | theoddone33 | ok I give up |
| 06:07.59 | durcyn | roughtly 214k |
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| 06:13.55 | theoddone33 | yeah alright |
| 06:13.59 | theoddone33 | but you can display more |
| 06:14.04 | theoddone33 | with the script thing |
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| 06:18.11 | Cyrez | lua> math.pow(2,31) |
| 06:18.12 | lua_bot | Cyrez: 2147483648 |
| 06:18.18 | Cyrez | There. ^^ |
| 06:18.52 | Cyrez | And it's -1 because you can have 0. |
| 06:20.34 | Cyrez | lua> (math.pow(2,31)-1) / 10000 |
| 06:20.34 | lua_bot | Cyrez: 214748.3647 |
| 06:20.42 | Cyrez | Booya! |
| 06:25.07 | theoddone33 | so you do /script SILVER_PER_GOLD=0.01 |
| 06:25.13 | theoddone33 | and it displays way more than that |
| 06:25.19 | theoddone33 | just the storage is capped |
| 06:25.22 | ramoz | lol |
| 06:25.30 | theoddone33 | they were smart enough to not cap the display |
| 06:25.45 | theoddone33 | of course there's no point to doing that |
| 06:25.53 | theoddone33 | other than going "oh crap 8000g repairs" |
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| 06:27.21 | ramoz | mm, anyone else getting funky errors from wws? |
| 06:28.14 | CIA-40 | 03hegarol * r72707 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 06:28.14 | CIA-40 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 06:28.14 | CIA-40 | - Sunwell update |
| 06:28.17 | Fisker- | slaps theoddone33 around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:32.55 | theoddone33 | that reminds me of a humorous event in my life |
| 06:33.03 | theoddone33 | but I couldn't tell the story in a way that conveys the humor of it |
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| 06:44.55 | Groktar | heh |
| 06:45.07 | Groktar | i'm still getting shit over the spell reflect thing on souls |
| 06:45.45 | Groktar | hehe |
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| 06:47.20 | Fisker- | rapes theoddone33 |
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| 07:04.34 | CIA-40 | 03jerry * r72708 10LibItemBonus-2.0/LibItemBonus-2.0/locales/frFR.lua: LibItemBonus-2.0: fix a couple of patterns in frFR. Thanks Zindjorl |
| 07:04.55 | Cheads | hmm are there any combat log addons besides EavesDrop? or are everyone using the deafault combat log now |
| 07:06.29 | ramoz | There's one called NotSimpleCombatLog |
| 07:06.35 | ramoz | im not sure what it does |
| 07:07.35 | Cheads | maybe I should try that |
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| 07:27.42 | NeoTron | omen is so completely off on the flames on illidan it's not even funny |
| 07:27.52 | NeoTron | like 50% too high it seems |
| 07:28.01 | Antiarc | tank overreporting? |
| 07:28.18 | NeoTron | way |
| 07:28.28 | NeoTron | ppl pull when they are 20-30% below the tank |
| 07:29.11 | NeoTron | only there only on flame tanks |
| 07:30.22 | NeoTron | bare tank |
| 07:30.24 | NeoTron | btw |
| 07:31.02 | Arrowmaster | worked fine for us last week |
| 07:32.03 | NeoTron | at least twice ppl nowhere near the tank (although on top) has pulled aggro.. at way beyond melee range too |
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| 07:33.25 | theoddone33 | wow yay for 45 badge welfare epics |
| 07:34.14 | ramoz | yeah, Omen was fine last week for us too |
| 07:34.23 | ramoz | i was at 98% of the tank |
| 07:34.32 | ramoz | both bear and warrior |
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| 07:48.42 | jy_ | my guild used to raid without threatmeter fine from MC through nax to T5 content, but now the need of optimisation for raid make these mods an obligation more than "confort" :( |
| 07:52.17 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72709 10HandyNotes_Guild/: HandyNotes_Guild: creating folder |
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| 07:54.05 | evl | Anyone tried the "Vendor" addon? |
| 07:54.07 | Arrowmaster | blizzard has admited that they design raid encounters expecting people to use some form of threat meter and other addons |
| 07:54.11 | evl | i'm looking for something that works atm |
| 07:54.23 | evl | I tried like 3 auction addons and they all fucked me over with errors :P |
| 07:55.47 | FtH|Daemona | why dont you go with the established swiss army knife auctioneer? |
| 07:56.06 | FtH|Daemona | sure it got a heavy footprint |
| 07:56.15 | FtH|Daemona | but you cant beat the feature list |
| 07:56.21 | Antiarc | Auctioneer has a heavy static memory usage footprint |
| 07:56.26 | Antiarc | That doesn't affect your performance though. |
| 07:56.43 | Antiarc | Not in any appreciable manner, anyhow. |
| 07:57.45 | evl | Uh yeah |
| 07:57.48 | evl | I clicked on "stable link" on the site |
| 07:57.52 | FtH|Daemona | i just load it on my auctionhouse twink, so i dont care ;) |
| 07:57.53 | evl | then I get a message "sorry no stable link" |
| 07:57.56 | FtH|Daemona | fuck the stable link |
| 07:57.57 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72710 10HandyNotes_Guild/ (. GuildNotes.lua HandyNotes_Guild.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 07:57.57 | CIA-40 | HandyNotes_Guild: initial import |
| 07:57.57 | CIA-40 | - display worldmap notes for your guildmates using LibGuildPositions-1.0 |
| 07:57.59 | evl | i click on preview, install ALL the addons |
| 07:58.03 | evl | and get a truckload of errors |
| 07:58.06 | FtH|Daemona | get alpha of auctioneer advanced |
| 07:58.33 | evl | I just need something that WORKS :P |
| 07:58.37 | FtH|Daemona | it works |
| 07:58.39 | evl | I need to sell 3500 netherweave |
| 07:58.40 | FtH|Daemona | for months |
| 07:58.50 | FtH|Daemona | evl, whats arcane dust on your server |
| 07:58.57 | FtH|Daemona | whats netherweave on your server |
| 07:59.05 | FtH|Daemona | whats large prismatic shards on your server |
| 07:59.13 | evl | I dunno |
| 07:59.15 | FtH|Daemona | can you craft arcanoweave bracers |
| 07:59.18 | FtH|Daemona | go research |
| 07:59.19 | evl | I sell my whole bank once a week |
| 07:59.25 | evl | and net about 1k |
| 07:59.44 | evl | I don't really care about the cash anymore |
| 07:59.46 | evl | I just need the bagspace :P |
| 08:00.41 | nevcairiel | then create bandages and vendor them :P |
| 08:00.49 | evl | :D |
| 08:01.02 | evl | is waterfall broken in 2.4? |
| 08:01.02 | FtH|Daemona | evl, on my server i buy that shit for like 18g per craft and sell the shard for 27-30g |
| 08:01.05 | FtH|Daemona | you do the math |
| 08:01.14 | evl | yeah sure |
| 08:01.19 | evl | but i need money for waht again? |
| 08:01.23 | evl | 200g+ for dailies |
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| 08:01.27 | Fisker- | what datatype is it that you usually use for decimals_ |
| 08:01.28 | FtH|Daemona | andif you dontcare about the money, do what nevc said |
| 08:01.30 | Fisker- | float or double? |
| 08:01.31 | evl | I just vendor all the greens onw |
| 08:01.36 | FtH|Daemona | make bandages and vendor |
| 08:01.47 | piotrb | has anyone run into issues with arkinventory memory leaking somehow? |
| 08:01.57 | Fisker- | it's leaking hotsauce |
| 08:02.00 | Fisker- | anyways |
| 08:02.02 | Fisker- | float or double |
| 08:02.02 | Fisker- | gogo |
| 08:02.06 | FtH|Daemona | as in, memory increasing when opening/closing inventory? |
| 08:02.47 | piotrb | as in constantly increasing memory usage until it eats > 30 megs .. eventually getting to the point where it staves and crashes the client |
| 08:03.00 | FtH|Daemona | uhm no |
| 08:03.12 | piotrb | this takes hours .. |
| 08:03.27 | starlon | o.O |
| 08:03.30 | piotrb | and in some way can be related to raiding .. *shrug* always happens to me when raiding |
| 08:03.35 | FtH|Daemona | hours as in 4 days of 8hrs muru? |
| 08:03.43 | piotrb | ~4 |
| 08:03.46 | purl | 4 is a number, silly |
| 08:03.48 | FtH|Daemona | i havent had arkinv show that behaviour |
| 08:04.00 | starlon | purl told you |
| 08:04.24 | starlon | ~~ |
| 08:04.24 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 08:04.31 | piotrb | its so hard trackign messy mods with an issue like this .. always crashes me about the time we get to prince .. heh |
| 08:04.36 | jy_ | evl: level alts and buy them epic mount ! |
| 08:04.43 | Fisker- | isn't there something shorter than short btw? |
| 08:04.59 | piotrb | so ~4h |
| 08:05.03 | Elkano | well, your penis maybe |
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| 08:05.19 | profalbert | Fisker-: byte? |
| 08:05.36 | starlon | There's bool |
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| 08:07.20 | Fisker- | oh lawls Elkano |
| 08:07.23 | Fisker- | kthx profalbert |
| 08:07.53 | evl | FtH|Daemona: giev link to auctioneer plix, I can't find the right one it seems |
| 08:08.03 | spawnstah | www.auctioneeraddon.com |
| 08:08.20 | evl | Yes yes, but a version that actually WORKS |
| 08:08.26 | Fisker- | yay |
| 08:08.29 | Fisker- | byte goes from 0-255 |
| 08:08.31 | Fisker- | so it will work |
| 08:08.34 | evl | "attempt to compare gay error to nil" |
| 08:09.03 | Antiarc | http://www.auctioneeraddon.com/dl/?dl=Packages/AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.3087.zip |
| 08:09.19 | FtH|Daemona | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/?dl=Packages/AuctioneerAdvancedSuite-5.0.PRE.3087.zip |
| 08:09.30 | FtH|Daemona | but i guess i use an older build than that |
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| 08:12.19 | Elkano | Fisker-: <3 |
| 08:12.31 | CIA-40 | 03arkayenro * r72711 10ArkInventory/ (16 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:12.31 | CIA-40 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:12.31 | CIA-40 | - 2.27.04 |
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| 08:13.36 | CIA-40 | 03lockhead * r72712 10Goldicola/ (Core.lua Goldicola.toc): |
| 08:13.36 | CIA-40 | Goldicola.lua - code cleanup for next "add function" release |
| 08:13.36 | CIA-40 | Goldicola.toc - updated version info |
| 08:13.54 | evl | Antiarc: I tried that yesterday, and was instantly drowned in a river of errors |
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| 08:15.05 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72713 10HandyNotes_Guild/GuildNotes.lua: HandyNotes_Guild: svn stuff |
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| 08:21.15 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72714 10HandyNotes_Guild/ (GuildNotes.lua Normal.tga): HandyNotes_Guild: add missing icon artwork and some tweaks |
| 08:24.40 | [VM]Mysticfox | I hope these #132 errors are fixed in the 2.4.2 client |
| 08:25.09 | harldephin | i doubt that. |
| 08:25.26 | nevcairiel | I didnt get any for a long time |
| 08:25.35 | [VM]Mysticfox | it never fails, happened on may 5th, may 1st, april 30th, april 26th |
| 08:25.45 | theoddone33 | wow seal of the crusader change is weird |
| 08:25.51 | [VM]Mysticfox | only seems to happen after I've been in game for a while though.. |
| 08:25.51 | theoddone33 | weird weird weird |
| 08:26.13 | [VM]Mysticfox | also still have some crap where the game locks up when trying to exit |
| 08:26.29 | theoddone33 | now paladins at level 10 or whatever get a seal that benefits only an ability that they can't get until level 40 |
| 08:26.35 | theoddone33 | and only if they spec a certain way |
| 08:26.45 | theoddone33 | of course it wasn't useful before either but it's still weird |
| 08:27.12 | nevcairiel | is it at least half-useful when specced in that certain way now |
| 08:27.13 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 08:27.18 | [VM]Mysticfox | not sure if it's anything addon related or what but it's pretty much consistent problems ever since the 2.4 client & 2.4.1 client came out |
| 08:27.24 | theoddone33 | no |
| 08:27.41 | theoddone33 | I used it sometimes at low levels |
| 08:27.48 | theoddone33 | but very rarely |
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| 08:28.03 | theoddone33 | now it's completely useless unless you're 40+ ret, and you'll still use command or blood |
| 08:28.18 | starlon | I was getting #132 errors after the patch. Turned out to be my overclock. |
| 08:30.07 | [Ammo] | SoC is meant to be judged :) |
| 08:30.09 | Lockhead | why i can't upload *.wowproj files zo the svn? |
| 08:30.22 | [Ammo] | because svn has restrictions on filetypes |
| 08:30.33 | [Ammo] | it has a whitelist |
| 08:30.49 | theoddone33 | just doesn't make sense to me to make a skill that depends partially on a 31 point talent |
| 08:30.59 | jy_ | 41* |
| 08:31.01 | theoddone33 | it's not something that happens often as far as I know |
| 08:31.30 | Lockhead | ok thx, added file to ignor list |
| 08:31.46 | theoddone33 | is crusader strike 41? heh |
| 08:31.48 | theoddone33 | I guess so |
| 08:32.08 | jy_ | 31 is stun |
| 08:32.14 | theoddone33 | ah, right |
| 08:32.16 | [VM]Mysticfox | your overclock? hmm, I'm not sure if that would be it for me I've tested it pretty extensively |
| 08:32.20 | theoddone33 | shows how much I play ret |
| 08:32.27 | jy_ | ^^ |
| 08:32.29 | [VM]Mysticfox | only thing that I have problems with ever is wow |
| 08:32.44 | [VM]Mysticfox | the main thing that's annoying is the hanging on exit |
| 08:32.58 | starlon | yeah mine was tested too. WoW ran fine till the patch. |
| 08:32.58 | jy_ | [VM]Mysticfox: qft |
| 08:32.59 | harldephin | especially with sli activated, i've been getting error #132 ever since. without sli it's only been every few days to weeks. |
| 08:33.10 | [VM]Mysticfox | even when I'm at the login screen I have it |
| 08:33.53 | [VM]Mysticfox | i just remember ever since 2.4 on the PTR it's been bad with #132s |
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| 08:38.02 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72715 10HandyNotes/Libs/: HandyNotes: touch embeds |
| 08:40.04 | harldephin | SET baseMip "1" partly seemed to solve the problem for me for a very long time, but it's been a small to no difference with 2.4 so i dropped it, though from this view, 2.4 really seems to have bettered it somehow. but the error's not gone completely, so it's definitely not solved. |
| 08:43.56 | [VM]Mysticfox | this last error came when I was getting auto logged, after being afk, idling in ironforge |
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| 08:48.13 | harldephin | i often got it multiple times in a row. error, login, walking a few meters, error, login, then sometimes immediately errors again. so of course i thought my memory might be defective, but tests didn't show anything. |
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| 08:49.43 | harldephin | still, the error seems to occur less often when a) there's enough free memory available, b) sli is deactivated, c) overall system load wouldn't stall wow and d) set basemip "1" |
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| 08:53.23 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72716 10CVarEditor/Libs/: CVarEditor: use Ace3 from trunk, not branches |
| 09:06.13 | Bruners | ckknight: ping |
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| 09:13.17 | Orionshock | durcyn: ping |
| 09:13.43 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` -> http://ace.pastey.net/87265 -> BadBoy |
| 09:14.23 | durcyn | Orionshock: hmm? |
| 09:14.38 | Orionshock | are u maintaining bigbrother on the svn? |
| 09:14.56 | [VM]Mysticfox | cool, so 2.4.2 is supposed to hopefully fix the hang on exit thing according to some blue post on the tech support forums |
| 09:15.11 | durcyn | not much beyond unfucking it for 2.4, is there still something broken? |
| 09:15.12 | Snago | Didn't they say that about 2.4.1 too? |
| 09:15.17 | [VM]Mysticfox | yeah lol |
| 09:15.31 | Bruners | the hang on exit thing fixed itselfe here |
| 09:15.35 | [VM]Mysticfox | now there's a blue post saying they implemented a possible fix for it on the ptr client |
| 09:16.01 | Orionshock | durcyn: could you add something to the announce message, IE the raid icon for the mob being broken? |
| 09:16.19 | [VM]Mysticfox | don't know, I've had it since 2.4 came out but it's more so after the client has been running for an extended amount of time |
| 09:16.46 | pschriner | I now usually exit with an alt so that's not in a city or inn - so I can alt tab before the game actually tries to exit and kill wow if all thing break |
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| 09:17.44 | *** part/#wowace Merl (n=chatzill@vpn-75-150.hib.no) |
| 09:18.27 | [VM]Mysticfox | yeah only problem it really gives is not saving addon data =p |
| 09:18.29 | durcyn | Orionshock: hmm, that'd be pretty simple to add, yeah. i still hate it for using SE-Aura, so I was going to futz with the log parser anyway |
| 09:18.36 | [VM]Mysticfox | brb |
| 09:18.41 | Orionshock | humm... |
| 09:19.30 | durcyn | cc break detection is already using C_L_E_U though, so dstFlag already has the icon in the bitmask |
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| 09:20.40 | Orionshock | aye |
| 09:21.26 | Fisker- | i soon has storage |
| 09:21.43 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72717 10HandyNotes_Guild/GuildNotes.lua: HandyNotes_Guild: fix a global bar |
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| 09:22.36 | Mapsterbater | noone saw what i did there |
| 09:23.29 | nevcairiel | ~lart Fisker- |
| 09:23.29 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Fisker- |
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| 09:23.44 | [VM]Mysticfox | hmm, good call on the overclock thing =p |
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| 09:24.57 | Fisker- | i'm so cold nevcairiel |
| 09:25.10 | nevcairiel | move out of that cold country then |
| 09:25.20 | Fisker- | i mean as a person |
| 09:25.22 | Fisker- | HOHO OWNED |
| 09:25.36 | nevcairiel | thats still because you're danish |
| 09:25.37 | durcyn | Fisker-: how much storage do you have |
| 09:26.30 | CIA-40 | 03kunda * r72718 10LibResComm-1.0/LibResComm-1.0.lua: |
| 09:26.30 | CIA-40 | LibResComm-1.0: |
| 09:26.30 | CIA-40 | - deDE fix |
| 09:26.30 | CIA-40 | - added zhCN and zhTW (copied from oRA2) |
| 09:26.30 | CIA-40 | - cosmetic code cleanup (removed spaces/used tab) |
| 09:28.24 | Fisker- | durcyn only about 800GB or so |
| 09:28.31 | Fisker- | but i just bought 2 1TB harddrives |
| 09:28.41 | durcyn | only two? psh. |
| 09:28.48 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72719 10HandyNotes_Guild/GuildNotes.lua: HandyNotes_Guild: two more upvalues |
| 09:29.39 | Fisker- | i want some of the new velociraptors for a system driver |
| 09:29.52 | Fisker- | drive* |
| 09:31.00 | CIA-40 | 03kunda * r72720 10GridStatusRes/ (GridStatusRes.toc GridStatusResLocal-deDE.lua): GridStatusRes: added deDE |
| 09:33.57 | CIA-40 | 03kunda * r72721 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: oRA2: deDE fix (Corpse of...) |
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| 09:50.28 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72722 10HandyNotes_Guild/ (GuildNotes.lua embeds.xml libs/): HandyNotes_Guild: add a blacklist to ignore people in your raid/party because they get accurate icons from the game |
| 09:52.44 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72723 10HandyNotes_Guild/GuildNotes.lua: HandyNotes_Guild: clear the blacklist when leaving a party/raid |
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| 09:53.58 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72724 10HandyNotes_Guild/GuildNotes.lua: HandyNotes_Guild: fix logic <.< |
| 09:55.09 | CIA-40 | 03nevcairiel * r72725 10HandyNotes_Guild/GuildNotes.lua: |
| 09:55.09 | CIA-40 | HandyNotes_Guild: more logic fixes |
| 09:55.09 | CIA-40 | ~fail nevcairiel |
| 09:55.12 | purl | nevcairiel: FAIL! |
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| 10:07.16 | CIA-40 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r72726 10Grid/Grid2/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:07.16 | CIA-40 | Grid2: |
| 10:07.16 | CIA-40 | _ Add Frame alpha indicator |
| 10:07.16 | CIA-40 | _ Add basic Range status |
| 10:07.16 | CIA-40 | _ Link both in the configuration. |
| 10:07.17 | CIA-40 | _ Removed spell names from GridRange, add Resurrection spells to GridRange (not used yet in StatusRange). |
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| 10:09.09 | Hobby | ~Grid2 |
| 10:09.13 | Hobby | :( |
| 10:11.05 | Fisker- | your mother |
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| 10:13.43 | Hjalte | Omen was showing strange percentages yesterday on Illidan. Like everyone having around 5000% threat, but the bars were right enough. |
| 10:14.02 | profalbert | I think this is when the parasites spawn |
| 10:14.15 | profalbert | Illidan changes his target for a short time there I think |
| 10:14.51 | Hjalte | Yes, he does, but these massive percentages were consistent for at least a little while. |
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| 10:17.26 | Fisker- | Does anyone know if samsung's drives are worth using? |
| 10:17.59 | profalbert | hjalte: cause omen doesn't change it back for some reason |
| 10:18.40 | profalbert | maybe because of some timer, because the timeframe where the other raidmember has the aggro, is quite short |
| 10:18.49 | [dRaCo] | Fisker-: been using them for years now, never had any problems |
| 10:18.53 | SunTsu | Fisker-: I mostly use Samsung |
| 10:18.55 | [dRaCo] | both hdd and dvd drive |
| 10:19.57 | Fisker- | it would appear that their 1TB drives outperform WD's |
| 10:20.44 | [dRaCo] | tbh, I care more about reliability than about performance |
| 10:20.46 | Hjalte | thinks, someone need to store a lot of porn. |
| 10:23.21 | Fisker- | that's what we got warranties for [dRaCo] :P |
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| 10:24.22 | profalbert | [dRaCo]: worried about the data, i suppose. considered a RAID-1? |
| 10:25.02 | Jaxon | Fisker-: warrenties won't recover lost data. |
| 10:25.59 | profalbert | I copy my important data to 3 different disks |
| 10:26.32 | Fisker- | The amount of data i have that is important is backed up |
| 10:26.33 | Fisker- | also |
| 10:26.41 | Fisker- | the amount of data i have that is important isn't that big |
| 10:27.36 | Fisker- | fuck this |
| 10:27.41 | Fisker- | i'm not waiting a couple of days for my WD's |
| 10:27.45 | Fisker- | i'm getting samsungs! |
| 10:27.45 | Fisker- | :o |
| 10:27.50 | SunTsu | Fisker-: But using warranty means downtime, hassle with sending in the HDD, replacing it, etc. |
| 10:28.22 | Fisker- | i wasn't serious |
| 10:28.26 | Fisker- | i throw out the hardware that fails |
| 10:28.32 | Fisker- | fuck it if i'll be bothered with warranties |
| 10:28.33 | Fisker- | lolol |
| 10:28.35 | vithos | when i RMA'd some seagates in my raid5, they sent me replacements to swap in before i sent them the failing ones |
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| 10:28.45 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:28.48 | Fisker- | seagate is pretty awesome |
| 10:29.09 | profalbert | <-- using seagate allover the place |
| 10:29.14 | Fisker- | but srsly |
| 10:29.27 | Fisker- | i have 80GB's that still work |
| 10:29.41 | Fisker- | never had a failing harddrive |
| 10:29.51 | Fisker- | well once but for some reason it just lost the raid, the harddrive formatted again fine |
| 10:30.37 | Ozguli | anyone knows how to open a logitech mx610 mouse? |
| 10:30.49 | Ozguli | or any of these that don't have screws |
| 10:30.57 | Jaxon | Ozguli: hammer? Pull off the mice feet |
| 10:31.08 | Jaxon | Screws usually beneath that |
| 10:31.25 | vithos | i have a 1TB raid5 array in a NAS. if i had it to do all over again, i'd build a solaris box and use ZFS |
| 10:31.49 | profalbert | Ozguli: i have an mx518 and the screws are under the serial-number |
| 10:32.38 | profalbert | the spots are marked with a "+" |
| 10:32.43 | profalbert | or x |
| 10:32.47 | profalbert | whatever |
| 10:33.04 | Ozguli | right, under the pads |
| 10:33.11 | Jaxon | YOP |
| 10:33.32 | Ozguli | well, it needs new ones anyway.. |
| 10:34.02 | Bruners | the scews are under the serial number and under the pads |
| 10:34.45 | Ozguli | doesn't have serial number |
| 10:36.16 | Cheads | GridAlert-$Rev: 56111 $\GridAlert.lua:2: Cannot find a library instance of "LibSharedMedia-2.0". Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: in function `LibStub' GridAlert-$Rev: 56111 $\GridAlert.lua:2: in main chunk |
| 10:36.25 | Bruners | there taped paper udner the mouse where it should say what laser class it is and serial number |
| 10:36.27 | Cheads | LibSharedMedia-2.0 is loaded... hmm |
| 10:36.52 | Ozguli | no such things here.. hmm... wtb serarch function for my room |
| 10:38.16 | *** join/#wowace sw_dodge (n=dodge@p5B00B1D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:38.42 | sw_dodge | hi all |
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| 10:41.30 | Ozguli | I could also clean my keyboard |
| 10:41.54 | Ozguli | it's full of dust, hair and such things |
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| 10:44.40 | Lockhead | if foo = table[bar] and the entry bar not exist in the table, what value have foo then? is it nil, or throwing lua an error |
| 10:44.56 | Snago | Lockhead: nil |
| 10:45.00 | sw_dodge | Lockhead: nil |
| 10:45.00 | Lockhead | thx |
| 10:50.55 | sw_dodge | Kolie: any progress in curse client? ;) |
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| 10:58.57 | sw_dodge | well, no reply^^ maybe sleepuing ;) i'm bacjk in about 1 hr |
| 10:58.59 | sw_dodge | cya |
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| 11:00.33 | harldephin | why did blizzard make that shield sound so.. obtrusive? |
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| 11:03.16 | ex1stenz | http://www.colectionarul.com/existenz1.html |
| 11:03.22 | CIA-40 | 03scorpio0920 * r72727 10IHML/locales/locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 11:03.22 | CIA-40 | IHML: |
| 11:03.22 | CIA-40 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 11:03.22 | CIA-40 | -- zhTW localization Vashj macro need conform. :( |
| 11:04.16 | Fisker- | btw [dRaCo] |
| 11:04.31 | Fisker- | after i decided to switch to the samsung drives |
| 11:04.53 | Fisker- | the supplier which i had brought the hardware from decided to pack it and send it |
| 11:04.56 | Fisker- | so i was liek "noes" |
| 11:05.36 | Fisker- | anyways |
| 11:05.43 | Fisker- | think i'll enjoy WD anyways |
| 11:05.52 | Fisker- | WD and Seagate have never let me down, and i doubt they will :P |
| 11:07.02 | Zyndrome | hands Fisker- an old IBM Deskstar HDD |
| 11:07.16 | Fisker- | GET OUT |
| 11:07.19 | Zyndrome | :3 |
| 11:07.25 | Fisker- | actually they were pretty decent back then weren't they? |
| 11:07.38 | Zyndrome | until they broke down on their own |
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| 11:07.46 | Fisker- | Yeah but wasn't that until later? |
| 11:08.03 | Zyndrome | cba |
| 11:08.24 | Zyndrome | just that I had two 160Gb IBM Deskstar drives... both died after just 5-6 months |
| 11:08.39 | Fisker- | yeah i'm talking back in the 20-40GB eras |
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| 11:09.25 | thul | http://youtube.com/watch?v=5oDeRUJKmtQ <- |
| 11:09.27 | thul | so |
| 11:09.28 | thul | much |
| 11:09.28 | thul | acid |
| 11:10.08 | *** part/#wowace ex1stenz (n=existenz@213.233.101.2) |
| 11:10.12 | Apoco | [Ammo]: ping? |
| 11:10.44 | [Ammo] | pong |
| 11:10.47 | Apoco | omg |
| 11:10.49 | [Ammo] | next time just send me a message |
| 11:10.53 | [Ammo] | I will answer when I see it |
| 11:10.54 | Apoco | lol |
| 11:11.02 | Apoco | some people dont check messages so yeah |
| 11:11.17 | [Ammo] | I am not some people |
| 11:11.42 | thul | I AM GOD |
| 11:12.08 | Bruners | Zyndrome: IBM's Deskstar disk was renamed to Deathstar |
| 11:12.31 | Zyndrome | I remember now :P |
| 11:13.44 | Fisker- | [Ammo] you rule |
| 11:14.08 | [Ammo] | only in my own mind |
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| 11:14.25 | Fisker- | you forgot my mind |
| 11:14.44 | [Ammo] | your mind is easy to forget, a singular cell |
| 11:16.11 | thul | [Ammo]: pfft, he has two cells, the one is pushing the other's wheelchair. |
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| 11:18.34 | Cheads | hmm GridAlert.lua: local SML = LibStub("LibSharedMedia-2.0") shouldn't there be a reference to that library in the .toc then? |
| 11:18.49 | CIA-40 | 03snago * r72728 10IHML/locales/locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 11:18.49 | CIA-40 | IHML: |
| 11:18.49 | CIA-40 | - Vasjh macro was too long. |
| 11:23.59 | dylanm | Cheads: It should probably be updated to use LSM-3.0, since that seems to be what Grid uses. |
| 11:25.23 | Cheads | that would be nice if that happened =) |
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| 11:33.34 | CIA-40 | 03scorpio0920 * r72729 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 11:33.34 | CIA-40 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:33.34 | CIA-40 | - Fixed typo. |
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| 11:45.36 | Ordog | lets loose some unrelated whine about wowjutsu beeing buggy |
| 11:47.58 | Fisker- | moar liek armory amirite? |
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| 11:50.06 | vithos | ~seen Funkeh` |
| 11:50.07 | purl | funkeh` is currently on #wowhead (10h 13m 12s) #wowuidev (10h 13m 12s) #wowace (10h 13m 12s) #curseforge (10h 13m 12s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 10h 9m 11s, last said: 'catching up with 6 days of commits ftl'. |
| 11:51.23 | Funkeh` | vithos, hi |
| 11:51.41 | vithos | i'm getting 40 errors like this |
| 11:51.46 | vithos | er. |
| 11:51.54 | vithos | http://pastey.net/87266 |
| 11:52.06 | vithos | not sure if it's statblocks problem or mine |
| 11:52.46 | vithos | one for every SharedMedia:Register call |
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| 11:52.51 | Ordog | Fisker- well wowjutsu reports "none (1)" when we try to add our guild, while we can find it on the armory and bosskillers n stuff |
| 11:53.51 | Ordog | had to rant somewhere where an unlucky person might read it, other than my "problem reporting" emails during the last month |
| 11:53.57 | Ordog | why do i care ... |
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| 11:57.03 | vithos | Funkeh`: it's always 'font' btw, even when i'm registering things that aren't fonts. but i can use my inserted media just fine in other addons as well as statblocks |
| 11:57.38 | Funkeh` | kinda wierd |
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| 12:00.57 | p3lim | Anyone here playing on Frostmourne US? |
| 12:01.35 | p3lim | or US servers at all |
| 12:01.38 | SunTsu | ~seen Merl |
| 12:01.39 | purl | merl <n=chatzill@49.80-202-243.nextgentel.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 97d 13h 52m 30s ago, saying: 'I'm off...'. |
| 12:01.44 | SunTsu | ~seen Merl_ |
| 12:01.44 | purl | merl_ <n=chatzill@56.84-48-165.nextgentel.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 56m 8s ago, saying: 'hehe, np, I'll prob be here, can't find any reason way the files aren't loaded tho.'. |
| 12:02.00 | SunTsu | So much for "I'll be here" ;) |
| 12:02.18 | [Ammo] | isn't it a bit early for US |
| 12:02.19 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` -> http://ace.pastey.net/87265 -> BadBoy |
| 12:02.24 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: http://ace.pastey.net/87234 < is that helpful for you? |
| 12:02.29 | Stanzilla | bonks FtH|Daemona |
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| 12:15.14 | p3lim | whats the time over at US now? (ish) |
| 12:15.39 | vithos | 7:15am central time |
| 12:16.04 | p3lim | ouch |
| 12:16.09 | p3lim | ill wait a bit then :p |
| 12:16.31 | vithos | <3 your oUF layout btw |
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| 12:28.00 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona / Stanzilla thanks, just working on v1.5 with some performance improvements, will fix those in it |
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| 12:31.07 | ckknight | Bruners: pong |
| 12:31.43 | Bruners | ckknight: check your messages |
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| 12:40.57 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to get the info if a cooldown frame is active? |
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| 12:51.38 | Hjalte | I'm wondering, does anyone know if there is a similar project to the danish PLAY anywhere else in the world, where users are allowed music from all the four major record labels for free? |
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| 12:57.22 | Bruners | Hjalte: its called Bit-Torrent :P |
| 12:57.33 | Hjalte | Bruners: Legally, i might add :) |
| 12:57.44 | jy_ | in which country ? |
| 12:57.48 | jy_ | legal in russia ? |
| 12:57.51 | Hjalte | Denmark |
| 12:58.36 | Hjalte | The russian laws are quite strange, when it comes to copyright and the like, as far as I know. |
| 12:59.01 | odt | Hjalte: in what form? |
| 12:59.36 | Hjalte | WMA, protected to only be playable on your own computer. |
| 12:59.52 | odt | can you transfer it to a portable? |
| 12:59.53 | jy_ | deezer in france but never tried it |
| 13:00.28 | Hjalte | Nope, at the moment you can't transfer it to a portable. You can however, if you are a customer of the service provider who is doing this service, download tracks directly to your mobile phone for free. |
| 13:00.54 | [SW]Dodge | is there a way to get the info if a cooldown frame is active? |
| 13:00.56 | jy_ | actually legal+free+major for music <=> beautiful,intelligent,free for women |
| 13:01.31 | jy_ | :) |
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| 13:03.38 | CIA-41 | 03nevcairiel * r72737 10HandyNotes_Guild/embeds.xml: HandyNotes_Guild: fix typo in embeds.xml |
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| 13:09.41 | nevcairiel | man why is WWS still dead |
| 13:09.53 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r72738 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): |
| 13:09.53 | CIA-41 | BadBoy: v1.5 |
| 13:09.53 | CIA-41 | - Performance improvements |
| 13:09.53 | CIA-41 | - Blacklist update |
| 13:10.10 | charon | somebody apparently stole its servers: "No server is available to handle this request." ;) |
| 13:10.24 | nevcairiel | I dont even get that |
| 13:10.45 | nevcairiel | the log uploading was broken for 2 weeks or so |
| 13:10.49 | nevcairiel | and now the full server died |
| 13:10.54 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona / Stanzilla shuld be sorted now |
| 13:10.59 | Stanzilla | <3 |
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| 13:24.06 | CIA-41 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r72739 10Grid/Grid2/ (GridCore.lua GridRoster.lua modules/StatusHeals.lua): |
| 13:24.06 | CIA-41 | Grid2: |
| 13:24.06 | CIA-41 | _ Remove the automated Grid Module registration (has this ever been used ?) |
| 13:24.06 | CIA-41 | _ Remove hack in StatusHeals |
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| 13:25.52 | Polleke | if you set a dependency for an addon is it guaranteed that that dependency is loaded before your addon? |
| 13:26.01 | CIA-41 | 03nevcairiel * r72740 10Bartender4/ButtonBar.lua: Bartender4: add a check to the button layout code to prevent crazy behaviour if a user sets #Rows > #Buttons |
| 13:26.12 | Funkeh` | Polleke, yes |
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| 13:26.34 | Polleke | ty |
| 13:26.38 | Funkeh` | oh bt4 went o trunk |
| 13:26.44 | Funkeh` | nice one nevcairiel |
| 13:26.52 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Do you plan to do bt3-config import? |
| 13:26.58 | nevcairiel | never! |
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| 13:27.37 | SunTsu | Dang |
| 13:28.02 | FtH|Daemona | rather make the fadeout thingy work again ;) |
| 13:28.11 | ramoz | gonna make it look pretty? |
| 13:28.19 | CIA-41 | 03kurax * r72741 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.cn.lua: |
| 13:28.19 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 13:28.19 | CIA-41 | - Update zhCN locale |
| 13:28.21 | FtH|Daemona | i cant stand seeing those 5 extra bars i dont need all the time ;) |
| 13:28.32 | nevcairiel | add keybindings and hide them? |
| 13:28.32 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:28.32 | ramoz | wat |
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| 13:29.28 | SunTsu | FtH|Daemona: Or have them fade out when mouse leaves them |
| 13:29.50 | Bruners | what is better with Bartender4? |
| 13:29.52 | FtH|Daemona | thats what am talking bout SunTsu |
| 13:32.32 | RaydenU | http://rochester.craigslist.org/sys/668340466.html |
| 13:32.37 | RaydenU | my spriest is better than this |
| 13:32.43 | RaydenU | wonder what mine would go for |
| 13:32.57 | RaydenU | oh wait |
| 13:32.59 | RaydenU | healing? |
| 13:33.03 | RaydenU | and he has FSW? |
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| 13:36.03 | CIA-41 | 03polleke * r72742 10GridStatusRes/ (GridStatusRes.toc libs/CallbackHandler-1.0/ libs/LibStub/): |
| 13:36.03 | CIA-41 | GridStatusRes: |
| 13:36.03 | CIA-41 | - Grid already has LibStub and CBH. Remove it here. |
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| 13:53.34 | CIA-41 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r72743 10Grid/Grid2/ (GridCore.lua GridFrame.lua GridLayout.lua): |
| 13:53.34 | CIA-41 | Grid2: more cleanup of ADDON_LOADED events. |
| 13:53.34 | CIA-41 | _ Remove the _Joined(Battleground/Raid/Party) messages and replace by a single Grid_GroupTypeChanged(type). type can now be arena. |
| 13:53.34 | CIA-41 | _ Remove core handling of REGEN_ENABLED and REGEN_DISABLED events. |
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| 14:00.37 | CIA-41 | 03kurax * r72744 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (burningcrusade.cn.lua burningcrusade.en.lua): |
| 14:00.37 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 14:00.37 | CIA-41 | - Muru loots typo fix |
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| 14:35.05 | CIA-41 | 03nevcairiel * r72745 10Bartender4/ButtonBar.lua: Bartender4: remove Button argument from the skin callback, since we only allow skinning based on the group |
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| 14:39.28 | dhslfg | any idea how to make my chat tabs completely transparent and just have text |
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| 14:39.45 | dhslfg | like http://i29.tinypic.com/x0v6rt.jpg |
| 14:39.56 | Fix[EJ] | Fane |
| 14:40.53 | Fix[EJ] | (Thats the name of the mod that will do that for you, dhslfg) |
| 14:41.02 | dhslfg | ty |
| 14:41.14 | dhslfg | now i can get rid of skinner |
| 14:41.24 | iNs|Renew | did you guys raid last night Fix? |
| 14:41.51 | Fix[EJ] | yeah |
| 14:42.09 | Fix[EJ] | 5 minutes in, M'uru at 5% and the server died :\ |
| 14:42.18 | Fix[EJ] | called the raid T.T |
| 14:42.29 | dhslfg | same thing here! |
| 14:42.38 | dhslfg | <3 1% whipes n shit with server crashes |
| 14:42.52 | iNs|Renew | wow harsh |
| 14:43.21 | dhslfg | lol and i knew rogues oculd tank! |
| 14:43.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+o SunTiger] by ChanServ |
| 14:43.31 | dhslfg | i remember leveling wondering why rogues never wanted to tank back in the dizzay |
| 14:43.44 | Fix[EJ] | and that was with no lusts, a dps warrior and warlock dying early too |
| 14:43.44 | dhslfg | and aparently one tanked mother in BT from 100-0% |
| 14:43.50 | hydrogen | my rogue has a tank set! |
| 14:44.00 | hydrogen | though |
| 14:44.03 | hydrogen | avatar was the one true tank |
| 14:44.23 | hydrogen | and you can't deny it |
| 14:46.08 | iNs|Renew | fix we tried a lust rotation attempt and it helped on sents/spawns |
| 14:46.19 | iNs|Renew | then next attempt no lusts up and did the same :p |
| 14:46.32 | iNs|Renew | so people just really got to push |
| 14:46.50 | iNs|Renew | really needed our hunter group online |
| 14:46.59 | iNs|Renew | we had extra dps helping south to they didnt fall behind |
| 14:47.06 | Fix[EJ] | well, lusts for the mage group would have meant the difference between a 5% muru wipe and a 95% entropius wipe! |
| 14:47.17 | iNs|Renew | nod |
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| 14:47.39 | Fix[EJ] | ah well, at least we're not waiting 4 days to go back this time |
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| 14:47.48 | iNs|Renew | yea |
| 14:47.52 | iNs|Renew | I cant wait for tonight |
| 14:47.56 | iNs|Renew | we made good progress |
| 14:48.03 | iNs|Renew | glad we didnt change anything |
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| 14:51.11 | Polarina | Note to self: "Don't create any more addons that require constant maintenance of its database." |
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| 15:00.37 | dhslfg | im struggling to get skinner to skin the webdkp minimap button |
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| 15:02.25 | Kolie | Anyone love to beta test latest curse client beta? |
| 15:02.42 | Kolie | Now with check NAO! for addon update goodness. |
| 15:03.13 | chdst | Is the curse client multiplatform? |
| 15:03.16 | dylanm | Kolie: On what does it run |
| 15:03.17 | chdst | If so, I'll go for it |
| 15:03.29 | chdst | And by multiplatform, I mean Linux. :) |
| 15:03.32 | Kolie | chdst, the rewrite Im also working on is multiplatform. |
| 15:03.51 | Kolie | But this one, the "Legacy Client" never made it to a linux port. |
| 15:04.09 | Kolie | Its 95% written to run anywhere, but that 5% just sucks. |
| 15:04.22 | Vulcanus | Java? |
| 15:04.26 | chdst | I could Wine it up...normally I'm not a fan, but in WoW's case it would be fitting. :) |
| 15:04.27 | Kolie | its cpp. |
| 15:04.52 | Kolie | Never had my software run in wine before, It would be interesting, I saw someone run it in vmware lastnight though. |
| 15:05.08 | Vulcanus | make it modular so that we can opt not to install the vanguard crap :p |
| 15:05.12 | vhaarr | vmware can't be compared to wine at all |
| 15:05.20 | vhaarr | it's completely different |
| 15:05.42 | vhaarr | does the curse client still bother you with news and other crap? |
| 15:06.39 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r72746 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: tweak |
| 15:06.47 | Kolie | Vulcanus, the new one has zero vanguard in it. |
| 15:06.53 | Vulcanus | nice |
| 15:06.55 | Kolie | I took it out actually in the 13.5 release. |
| 15:07.16 | Kolie | The 15.0 beta releases ( the ones im hocking now ) just took out the menu options, its been gone for awhile. |
| 15:07.22 | Vulcanus | what about client data gathering? not everybody wants that either ;p |
| 15:07.33 | Kolie | All it does is take your character info |
| 15:07.37 | Kolie | like armory |
| 15:07.58 | Kolie | it can be disabled. |
| 15:07.59 | Funkeh` | um |
| 15:08.05 | chdst | Not trying to needle, but the obvious question is, I think, why not use armory? :) |
| 15:08.07 | Funkeh` | so mine the armory? |
| 15:08.24 | Kolie | We have more features then armory, armory is slow as hell and buggy, .. |
| 15:08.34 | chdst | In other words, what's different? Inventory mining, recipes, and such? |
| 15:08.38 | nevcairiel | so is the curse client /me runs |
| 15:08.40 | Funkeh` | rmory works fine for all we ever needed |
| 15:08.44 | Funkeh` | and needs 0 addons |
| 15:08.47 | Vulcanus | lmao nev |
| 15:09.05 | Kolie | Funkeh`, I am not the one to evangelize the wowdb.com stuff, so dont go looking at me to do so. |
| 15:09.14 | Funkeh` | mine the armory and display it on your own fast page |
| 15:09.17 | Vulcanus | Ideally what you should do with it is make it not update your mods on launch, but rather offer a list of mods with the oudated ones marked, then we can choose to update them separately |
| 15:09.32 | Kolie | Im told by people I respect its far superior. My personal opinion is its far superior to the armory as well. |
| 15:09.54 | *** join/#wowace MrUseful (i=fnbot@armory.bot.nu) |
| 15:09.57 | nevcairiel | for looking up items and such, sure |
| 15:10.03 | nevcairiel | but character info? |
| 15:10.15 | nevcairiel | will always take that from armory |
| 15:10.21 | Funkeh` | agrees |
| 15:10.23 | hydrogen | Isn't wowdb the reskinned wowhead? |
| 15:10.29 | Kolie | I've seen the beta releases of wowdb that have profiles, and I prefer it. |
| 15:10.32 | nevcairiel | (and i'll probably use wowhead for item info, but thats jsut me) |
| 15:10.41 | vhaarr | wowdb is the overskinned wowhead |
| 15:10.48 | Kolie | wowhead hasnt updated there items in 1.2 months |
| 15:10.48 | nevcairiel | Kolie: only has people that run the curse client? |
| 15:11.00 | Kolie | nevcairiel, and the people that the curse client has seen? |
| 15:11.02 | Funkeh` | Kolie, they did it like 2 weeks ago |
| 15:11.05 | Funkeh` | when I asked them |
| 15:11.07 | Funkeh` | so eh? |
| 15:11.11 | Vulcanus | I mine the Armory for my guild's website (only guild attendance to date) and the only problem I have with it is that it's sometimes not completely in synch with in-game (it tries to say that some chars are not in the guild, or still in the guild). But when you mine the XML and not the webpage, it's not slow at all :) |
| 15:11.15 | Chompers | overskinned is a harsh way of describing it, call it web 2.0 instead |
| 15:11.18 | Chompers | :P |
| 15:11.20 | Kolie | Funkeh`, that may be true, but we had them day one. |
| 15:11.23 | nevcairiel | Kolie: so armory still has much more people? meh dont like checking two pages :P |
| 15:11.26 | Chompers | needs moar flash |
| 15:11.27 | Kolie | Actually, we had them when they came out in the PTR's |
| 15:11.34 | chdst | Vulcanus: I didn't even know people used teh webpage... :) |
| 15:11.36 | Funkeh` | Chompers, I personally hate the stupid 'OMG YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE BEFORE TAKE THE TOUR' CRAP |
| 15:11.37 | kenlyric | http://armorylite.com/us/mal'ganis/kenlyric |
| 15:11.41 | Fisker- | nevcairiel |
| 15:11.41 | dhslfg | ruby n rails web 2.0 garb ajax can blow me |
| 15:11.42 | Fisker- | ! |
| 15:11.43 | Kolie | nevcairiel, valid point, not arguing it. |
| 15:11.51 | dhslfg | gogogo .htm |
| 15:11.57 | dhslfg | and fast loading times |
| 15:11.59 | Fisker- | Does bartender support BF or does BF support bartender? |
| 15:12.00 | vhaarr | gopher ftw |
| 15:12.06 | Vulcanus | chdst: my guild is forced to use my website, raid signups happen there ;) |
| 15:12.09 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: bartender supports BF |
| 15:12.17 | Vulcanus | and the other way around too |
| 15:12.17 | Kolie | armory too slow and bloated, armory lite WAYY to lite, but thats just my humble opinion. |
| 15:12.29 | vhaarr | armorylite is perfect |
| 15:12.37 | Funkeh` | Kolie, you don't understand, mine ut, then display it elsewhere |
| 15:12.51 | Fisker- | bah nevcairiel :( |
| 15:12.54 | Kolie | I dont write wowdb.com, im not mining for it. |
| 15:13.17 | Funkeh` | Kolie, Im not saying *you* should do it, Im offering suggestion |
| 15:13.38 | Kolie | And actually, it has been done for wowdb. |
| 15:14.01 | nevcairiel | Oh and wowdb doesnt have "spells cast by this npc", i find that reaaaaly useful :) |
| 15:14.25 | Fisker- | nevcairiel make support for PT3Bar :( |
| 15:14.37 | dylanm | Support? |
| 15:14.47 | Kolie | wowdb also has alot of features coming out I cant mention, which the armory certainly will never have. |
| 15:14.55 | Fisker- | btw nevcairiel i want fontsizes on keybindings |
| 15:15.07 | Kolie | spells cast by this npc, let me mention that. |
| 15:15.09 | nevcairiel | I use armory only to check specs and equip of plyers |
| 15:15.15 | nevcairiel | *players |
| 15:15.25 | Kolie | nevcairiel, then youll probably continue to do so. |
| 15:15.33 | dylanm | I use Armorylite :p |
| 15:16.02 | Kolie | does wowhead have the items from the M'uru fight? |
| 15:16.04 | kenlyric | yay armorylite. boo armory |
| 15:16.44 | nevcairiel | no it doesnt, but just because wowdb has one guy that cares too much, doesnt make it better, for me anyway :p |
| 15:16.57 | Kolie | We dont have one guy that cares too much. |
| 15:17.00 | Kolie | Its all automated. |
| 15:17.06 | dylanm | Kolie: http://www.wowhead.com/?latest=additions |
| 15:17.25 | Kolie | yea they have them. |
| 15:17.33 | Kolie | And I was just wondering, not saying its better because we have it first. |
| 15:17.46 | Vulcanus | Does WoWDB have "powered by" possibilities that lets other websites build tooltips? |
| 15:17.47 | nevcairiel | Oh, its just not sorted in the muru loot table |
| 15:18.03 | Kolie | Vulcanus, yes, wowdb is fairly syndicated in such a way already on many sites. |
| 15:18.21 | Vulcanus | never actually seen anything regarding that, you should try to get more coverage for it :) |
| 15:18.26 | Kolie | And the scripts to do so are VERY clean. |
| 15:18.26 | kenlyric | but wowdb is evil |
| 15:18.35 | kenlyric | you shouldn't inject evil into your webpages |
| 15:18.37 | Kolie | wowdb is not evil, your projecting. |
| 15:18.44 | dylanm | nevcairiel: Yeah there's a bit of disconnect on some of the Sunwell stuff. |
| 15:19.03 | Vulcanus | I'll go test your claim of clean scripts thar :p |
| 15:19.04 | dylanm | Oh it's better now. |
| 15:19.05 | kenlyric | it has a popup telling me it's the first time I visted. |
| 15:19.08 | kenlyric | that makes it evil |
| 15:19.12 | Kolie | Vulcanus, please do. |
| 15:19.13 | kenlyric | EVERY TIME I VISIT |
| 15:19.23 | Funkeh` | yes that's the worst thing ever |
| 15:19.25 | Kolie | kenlyric, I find that annoying as well. |
| 15:19.25 | Funkeh` | that popup |
| 15:19.30 | dylanm | Everything up to Sacrolash has a loot table now. |
| 15:19.30 | Funkeh` | we don't all use caches |
| 15:19.36 | dylanm | Very good. |
| 15:19.43 | kenlyric | nobody cares that's it's the first time you visited. |
| 15:19.45 | nevcairiel | dylanm: they probably need someone with the client that uploads drop data, not only item data ;) |
| 15:19.53 | kenlyric | and certainly not a block-the-application kind of caring |
| 15:20.11 | dylanm | I'd upload if they had a Mac client but eh. |
| 15:20.25 | kenlyric | doesn't wowdb load items from datamining too? |
| 15:20.40 | Kolie | kenlyric, opt in datamining from CurseProfiler and the curse client. |
| 15:20.57 | Gngsk | Snago, ping |
| 15:21.00 | Vulcanus | well, the JS is compiled so it's not all that good for learning. Also, it's one giant file whereas WoWHead is several smaller ones, therefore if they make a small change to a function they don't need you redloading a huge file (huge by eye measurements, that is). |
| 15:21.02 | nevcairiel | Its opt in now? Last time it was all opt out |
| 15:21.11 | Snago | Gngsk: pong |
| 15:21.28 | dhslfg | is there a fubar extention for webdkp? lol |
| 15:21.29 | Gngsk | Snago, you have a troll priest right? is it your main? |
| 15:21.46 | Snago | Yes. Nope, it's an alt. |
| 15:22.06 | Gngsk | ah, I was wondering if you could help test a fix I did for that issue where the quartz player castbar disappears while casting and shadowguard procs |
| 15:22.23 | Kolie | Vulcanus, the benefits of using it far outway the cons, imo. |
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| 15:22.32 | Snago | Gngsk: I'd love to! Where can I get it? |
| 15:22.52 | Kolie | Interfacing with it, is typically one single small line, and they load fast, and look really nice, and are hella accurate. |
| 15:23.29 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72747 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 15:23.29 | CIA-41 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 15:23.29 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 15:23.45 | Gngsk | Snago, it's really not much of a change, just add another check to the return if at the top of the UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP event function. add or unitCastingInfo('player') |
| 15:23.52 | Polleke | o.O I have a spriest trolll main and never noticed an issue with shadowguard and quartz |
| 15:24.10 | Vulcanus | the speed isn't bad, the skin is cool too. it's nice to have an alternative, just in case :) |
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| 15:24.49 | Vulcanus | tell the web team to get cracking on more tooltips (quests, objects, factions, everything linked to) and it'll be even better :) |
| 15:24.59 | Snago | Polleke: Then you don't get hit while casting often enough :P |
| 15:25.28 | Polleke | or I dont bother casting shadowguard often |
| 15:25.39 | Gngsk | Polleke, it's 100% reproducable and that change seems to fix it, can't seem to think of an issue it might cause otherwise |
| 15:26.19 | Kolie | Vulcanus, true, I think its only items and spells right now. |
| 15:26.27 | Polleke | but shadowguard is causing a SPELLCAST_STOP when it procs? |
| 15:26.29 | Kolie | Quest is in the next release we push. |
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| 15:27.02 | Kolie | Vulcanus, its only been active for a month, we already have alot to show. |
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| 15:27.06 | Snago | Gngsk: Made the change, logging in to test it now. |
| 15:27.14 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72748 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/esES.lua: |
| 15:27.14 | CIA-41 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 15:27.14 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
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| 15:27.40 | dhslfg | 9098=-po;09 |
| 15:27.43 | Vulcanus | There's also 1346 HTML validation errors and 1 warning on a common quest page XD |
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| 15:28.47 | dhslfg | lol |
| 15:28.47 | dhslfg | im in spanish girl |
| 15:28.58 | dhslfg | and a girl just randomly face rolled myy laptop on my lap |
| 15:29.10 | dhslfg | in spanish class and a girl randomly faced roll my laptop sitting on my lap* |
| 15:29.25 | Vulcanus | in a spanish girl? Is she tight? |
| 15:29.49 | dhslfg | ya she wants some D |
| 15:29.53 | dhslfg | she's greek though >.< |
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| 15:30.15 | dhslfg | im copyin her answers! |
| 15:30.19 | Vulcanus | does that mean she's not hot? XD |
| 15:31.32 | dhslfg | ya |
| 15:31.41 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72749 10LibDogTag-2.0/Localization/esES.lua: |
| 15:31.41 | CIA-41 | LibDogTag-2.0: |
| 15:31.41 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
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| 15:31.48 | dhslfg | so funny how im in spaniosh 3 |
| 15:31.49 | Industrial | pics or it enver happened |
| 15:31.51 | dhslfg | and dont know shit |
| 15:31.57 | dylanm | Does anything still use LDT2? |
| 15:32.06 | dhslfg | wtb C++ 3 class lol |
| 15:32.10 | dhslfg | or php 3 |
| 15:32.16 | dhslfg | or like mysql 3 |
| 15:32.21 | dhslfg | spanish is.... meh |
| 15:32.31 | CIA-41 | 03belazor * r72750 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:32.31 | CIA-41 | Cryolysis3: |
| 15:32.31 | CIA-41 | - Add Greater Blessings (Rank 1 only thus far) to Paladin file (dirty hack to make reagent restocking work) |
| 15:32.31 | CIA-41 | - Add UNIT_MANA to Paladins |
| 15:33.00 | Snago | Gngsk: That fixed it :) |
| 15:33.11 | Antiarc | http://lionsfood.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/bulletball-would-be-cool-if-it-wasnt-so-lame/ |
| 15:33.13 | Gngsk | Snago, yah, can you think of any issues adding that check might cause? |
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| 15:34.29 | Snago | Gngsk: No, all that function is doing is hiding the castbar and if you're still casting you don't want to hide it |
| 15:35.15 | Snago | Gngsk: Maybe if there's some race condition between UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP and the return from UnitCastingInfo, but that don't seem to be the case |
| 15:35.25 | CIA-41 | 03belazor 07classes * r72751 10Cryolysis3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 15:35.25 | CIA-41 | Cryolysis3: |
| 15:35.25 | CIA-41 | - UNIT_MANA to Hunter, Priest, Shaman, Warlock |
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| 15:36.42 | Snal| | Hello |
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| 15:41.11 | Pkekyo| | interesting...if politicians here have their way, people of less than 25 years of age will not be allowed to drive at nighttime, weekends or with passengers.... |
| 15:41.37 | kagaro | Pkekyo|: wtf? |
| 15:41.49 | TopicFascist | hmm |
| 15:41.51 | Pkekyo| | well, atleast they've found themselves a new activity for the next 20 years or so |
| 15:41.52 | TopicFascist | thats one way to go green! |
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| 15:42.35 | Pkekyo| | kagaro: the roads in this country are somewhat shitty, so to decrease the amount of accidents they're going to band all car use for youths except between 9am through 5pm, it seems |
| 15:42.41 | CIA-41 | 03belazor * r72752 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (9 files in 9 dirs): |
| 15:42.41 | CIA-41 | Cryolysis3: |
| 15:42.41 | CIA-41 | - UNIT_* for other classes too. |
| 15:42.41 | CIA-41 | - Only update the sphere if the UNIT_* fires for player. |
| 15:42.41 | CIA-41 | - Sod Druids for now, they regen mana in mewmew form as well, hairy business... |
| 15:42.45 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: If I had my way people over age of 50 were not allowed to be politician.. |
| 15:42.51 | kagaro | Pkekyo|: what country? |
| 15:42.59 | Vulcanus | Norway ftw XD |
| 15:43.02 | Pkekyo| | methinks they'd have a better shot at removing the american 2nd ammendment |
| 15:43.08 | Pkekyo| | aye, norway...me be viking |
| 15:43.10 | Pkekyo| | yarr |
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| 15:43.26 | Vulcanus | lets chew some shrooms and cut us up some English priests! |
| 15:43.39 | Pkekyo| | I'm in |
| 15:43.43 | Pkekyo| | Tinyboom as well |
| 15:44.16 | Tinyboom | yo Pkekyo|:) always in:p |
| 15:45.31 | Vulcanus | Byen é Bergen å lage' é Brann! |
| 15:45.51 | Pkekyo| | eat my arse out Vulcanus |
| 15:45.54 | Pkekyo| | bergen sucks |
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| 15:46.02 | Vulcanus | no u |
| 15:46.08 | Pkekyo| | well, the Bergen backpacks are awesome...anything else related to bergen however sucks :p |
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| 15:47.34 | CIA-41 | 03belazor 07classes * r72753 10Cryolysis3/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 15:47.34 | CIA-41 | Cryolysis3: |
| 15:47.34 | CIA-41 | - First argument to an event is the event name, not unitId. I knew that. |
| 15:47.41 | Toadkiller | Anyobne know what the latin american spanish locale code is? |
| 15:47.50 | Toadkiller | esLA? |
| 15:47.52 | nevcairiel | esMX |
| 15:47.57 | Toadkiller | sweet |
| 15:47.58 | nevcairiel | for mexico |
| 15:48.28 | nevcairiel | arent they supposed to release ruRU too? |
| 15:48.29 | Vulcanus | ca_ES <-- catalan spanish |
| 15:48.51 | Vulcanus | eu_ES Basque Spain |
| 15:49.00 | Pkekyo| | what's a catalan? sounds kinky :p |
| 15:49.16 | Vulcanus | it's something hot girls don't do to people who hate bergen |
| 15:49.47 | Pkekyo| | bwahah |
| 15:50.15 | Pkekyo| | I don't hate bergen...I just don't have anything resembling an affection for it... |
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| 15:50.35 | Pkekyo| | it's more the people from bergen I don't like...they're so loud :< |
| 15:50.36 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r72754 10AutoBar/Locale-esMX.lua: |
| 15:50.36 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 15:50.36 | CIA-41 | -- esMX locale file, cloned from esES |
| 15:50.47 | Vulcanus | well I've lived there, so unless you have, then shut up :p |
| 15:51.08 | Pkekyo| | I don't have a negative thing to say at all about the city itself :) |
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| 15:51.45 | Pkekyo| | actually considered studying there at one point in time |
| 15:52.44 | CIA-41 | 03jjsheets * r72755 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 15:52.44 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade: |
| 15:52.44 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.44 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.44 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.52 | Pkekyo| | http://youtube.com/watch?v=_RgL2MKfWTo |
| 15:52.56 | Pkekyo| | died a bit inside |
| 15:53.05 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r72756 10AutoBar/Locale-esMX.lua: |
| 15:53.05 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 15:53.05 | CIA-41 | gah, switch from plain type |
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| 15:53.30 | vithos | JJSheets: you read my mind with that autocast commit |
| 15:53.45 | JJSheets | actually, no I read StormFX's forum post. :p |
| 15:53.55 | Pkekyo| | http://static.nettby.no/users/a/t/h/athenix/files/bilen.jpg *sad, sad panda* |
| 15:54.40 | JJSheets | hey is there a wowace forum moderator hiding in here? |
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| 15:55.19 | Pkekyo| | JJSheets: most likely, yes |
| 15:55.26 | JJSheets | lol |
| 15:56.06 | Pkekyo| | I'm guessing [Ammo]'s a mod |
| 15:56.24 | Pkekyo| | that assumption isn't based upon anything but my piss-poor memory though |
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| 15:56.46 | JJSheets | I need http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12549.0 moved to the General Addons forum. Pwetty Pwease? Somebody? |
| 15:56.52 | starlon | JJSheets, are there hilights for stances? |
| 15:57.05 | CIA-41 | 03toadkiller * r72757 10AutoBar/Locale-esMX.lua: |
| 15:57.05 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 15:57.05 | CIA-41 | -- esMX. Well whatever, someone else can figure out how to change from lame escape codes to utf16 or whatever. |
| 15:57.11 | nevcairiel | JJSheets: just prod Funkeh` |
| 15:57.20 | Vulcanus | JJSheets: pl0x port the Serenity skin from cyCircled to ButtonFacade :( I phail at it :( |
| 15:57.21 | Pkekyo| | gotta do some work, laters ladies |
| 15:57.26 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 15:57.26 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72758 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 15:57.26 | CIA-41 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:57.26 | CIA-41 | - Tradeskill: esES updated |
| 15:57.35 | JJSheets | Funkeh`, I need http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12549.0 moved to the General Addons forum. Pwetty Pwease? Somebody? |
| 15:58.00 | JJSheets | Vulcanus, StormFX is nearly done with the non hex Serenity skins I hear. |
| 15:58.07 | Funkeh` | you cought me just as I was leaving the laptop ;p OMG SUN, sure will fix it |
| 15:58.37 | JJSheets | praises Funkeh`. |
| 15:58.46 | Funkeh` | done |
| 15:58.50 | JJSheets | starlon, What do you mean Stance Highlights? |
| 15:58.54 | JJSheets | Thanks! |
| 15:59.31 | Funkeh` | ok, ping me if you need me |
| 15:59.35 | Funkeh` | time to enjoy the rare sun |
| 15:59.36 | starlon | cy_Circled used to place a bolder border around the button matching your current stance |
| 15:59.37 | Vulcanus | "non-hex"? O.o dunno what you mean by that but if it means it gets done professionally then I likes it XD |
| 16:00.18 | JJSheets | starlon, that's a job for the actionbar mod. I'm not going to add it to ButtonFacade. :p sorry. |
| 16:00.26 | starlon | k |
| 16:00.51 | JJSheets | Vulcanus, non hex means the Circle Serenity and Square Serenity skins. |
| 16:01.04 | Vulcanus | oh, I want circle serenity :( |
| 16:01.44 | Vulcanus | I sort of did it, but I have the yellow blue/yellow square around the buttons on highlight/click, but meh itll do ;p |
| 16:01.46 | JJSheets | he's doing that. probably be committed to the SVN within a day or two. |
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| 16:01.54 | Vulcanus | cool, ty :) |
| 16:02.04 | starlon | JJSheets: That might have been the action bar mod doing that even for cy_Circled, but the graphics were in the texture. |
| 16:02.17 | nevcairiel | thats the Checked Texture |
| 16:02.21 | nevcairiel | i bet BF does that too |
| 16:02.26 | starlon | ah |
| 16:02.34 | JJSheets | BF does allow Checked Texture to be skinned, yes. |
| 16:02.40 | starlon | Ok |
| 16:02.43 | JJSheets | it skins every layer. :) |
| 16:02.51 | starlon | cool |
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| 16:04.58 | Zhinjio | G'morning. |
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| 16:05.35 | JJSheets | waves. |
| 16:05.43 | CIA-41 | 03polarina * r72759 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc): |
| 16:05.43 | CIA-41 | Relegation: |
| 16:05.43 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.11 | Toadkiller | nevcairiel: Im only seen a bt3 in branches. Wheres this bt4 at? |
| 16:08.17 | JJSheets | Trunk. |
| 16:08.19 | Stanzilla | trunk |
| 16:08.23 | Toadkiller | duh |
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| 16:19.34 | starlon | Well this is weird. I tried different textures on BT4 and 3 of them hilights the button. the rest don't |
| 16:20.13 | nevcairiel | maybe the textures dont support the checked texture? |
| 16:20.16 | nevcairiel | who knows! |
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| 16:20.21 | starlon | that's my guess |
| 16:20.36 | nevcairiel | which textures didnt show it? |
| 16:20.39 | starlon | that was the case with cy_Circled too |
| 16:20.45 | JJSheets | Which ones didn't work? |
| 16:21.13 | starlon | it's easier to say which ones did :) DreamLayout, Zoomed, and SkinName |
| 16:21.28 | nevcairiel | SkinName is the example texture, hah |
| 16:21.34 | starlon | hehe |
| 16:21.39 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:22.05 | starlon | Guess I'll just use DreamLayout |
| 16:22.29 | JJSheets | Blizzard didn't work? O.o |
| 16:22.34 | Chompers | AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua:710: attempt to index field 'rootframe' (a nil value) |
| 16:22.35 | starlon | nope |
| 16:22.37 | JJSheets | that should work too. :p |
| 16:22.44 | nevcairiel | hm let me try blizz |
| 16:22.52 | starlon | oh yeah it does |
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| 16:23.19 | JJSheets | so any of the cool ones are lacking Checked layer... hmmmmm |
| 16:23.38 | nevcairiel | a quick glare at the files says they have a checked layer |
| 16:24.01 | nevcairiel | blizzard works for me |
| 16:24.09 | JJSheets | yeah. maybe they're just not as bright and blatant as they could be... |
| 16:24.09 | starlon | yeah same here |
| 16:24.16 | Snal| | Is anyone willing to help me with one thing that dosn't seem to work with my pitbull? |
| 16:24.29 | starlon | it was selected when I started trying them. I guess it was actually using a different one |
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| 16:24.52 | starlon | I had chosen Vol II: Silver yesterday |
| 16:26.15 | nevcairiel | blizzard is mighty ugly btw |
| 16:26.24 | JJSheets | Thus we have skins. |
| 16:26.26 | JJSheets | :p |
| 16:26.29 | Snal| | i cant change the layout of my UF when im using PitBull and i dont know what im doing wrong |
| 16:26.33 | nevcairiel | nah its even uglyer as without BF |
| 16:26.40 | nevcairiel | on BT4 anyway |
| 16:26.47 | nevcairiel | because i remove the fugly NormalTexture |
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| 16:27.16 | JJSheets | I copied the Blizzard settings exactly. how it's uglier I don't know. :) |
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| 16:27.47 | cncfanatics | hello peeps |
| 16:27.56 | JJSheets | waves. |
| 16:28.50 | starlon | I love BT4's new keybinding setup. |
| 16:29.01 | starlon | Much simpler than in BT3 |
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| 16:29.26 | SunTsu | I don't like that I have to do it all again ;) |
| 16:29.32 | JJSheets | oh, that reminds me. nevcairiel, can you separate out KeyBound to a library or something. I want to use it for InfiniBar. :) |
| 16:29.43 | starlon | lol |
| 16:29.48 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72760 10FuBar_VolumeFu/VolumeFu.lua: |
| 16:29.48 | CIA-41 | FuBar_VolumeFu: |
| 16:29.48 | CIA-41 | - Added 'Sound Effects' setting in Tooltip |
| 16:30.16 | JJSheets | hey... why reinvent the wheel? Keybound works. :p |
| 16:30.44 | starlon | hehe |
| 16:31.03 | cncfanatics | how does Keybound work ? :o |
| 16:31.08 | cncfanatics | I'm getting curious |
| 16:31.50 | JJSheets | you type /kb, hover over the button, then hit they key you want to bind it to. |
| 16:31.50 | JJSheets | perfect time for a net-split. :p |
| 16:32.00 | cncfanatics | I didn't get splitted out |
| 16:32.09 | cncfanatics | nice system |
| 16:32.14 | JJSheets | yeah, but nev did. |
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| 16:33.09 | Zhinjio | ah nice, our phase 4 jewelry vendor finally opened up |
| 16:34.05 | starlon | what realm? ours opened lastnight |
| 16:34.20 | starlon | on Kilrogg |
| 16:35.38 | Zhinjio | Hellscream |
| 16:35.44 | Zhinjio | us |
| 16:36.24 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r72761 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: added to blacklist |
| 16:37.07 | Snal| | I cant change the layout of my UF with Pitbull when i tryto it gets messed up |
| 16:38.55 | CIA-41 | 03nevcairiel * r72762 10Bartender4/Button.lua: Bartender4: tweak size of the NormalTexture |
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| 16:39.16 | Chompers | 2 weeks to go on our server |
| 16:39.24 | Chompers | stupid ravagers |
| 16:39.53 | nevcairiel | we're at 99% |
| 16:40.14 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72763 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 16:40.14 | CIA-41 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 16:40.14 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 16:40.20 | starlon | too bad I only had badges for 1 gem |
| 16:40.30 | JJSheets | nevcairiel, did you answer my request during the net split? for KeyBound? |
| 16:40.31 | Fisker- | take it like a man nevcairiel |
| 16:40.38 | nevcairiel | i didnt even see it |
| 16:41.00 | nevcairiel | also, keyBound is not written by me |
| 16:41.09 | JJSheets | orly? |
| 16:41.26 | nevcairiel | I stole it from Bongos! |
| 16:41.30 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:41.31 | nevcairiel | well i even asked |
| 16:41.51 | JJSheets | hmm... so what happens when you run that file twice? :) |
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| 16:41.58 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 16:42.09 | JJSheets | I think I'll find out. :p |
| 16:42.10 | Hesselgren | Is there anyone who can run Decursive properly? |
| 16:42.22 | Hesselgren | Says im missing a library file to run it |
| 16:43.00 | CIA-41 | 03drool * r72764 10Nauticus/ (NautComms.lua NautCore.lua NautUI.lua): |
| 16:43.00 | CIA-41 | Nauticus: |
| 16:43.00 | CIA-41 | - change some objects vars to locals |
| 16:43.00 | CIA-41 | - new auto select transport option when standing near platform |
| 16:43.04 | krage` | is there an attribute for choosing sorting order for party/raid frames in oUF? |
| 16:44.23 | Hesselgren | Ok, im trying to run Decursive. I get the errormessage when I start up wow saying I am missing 2 library files to run it. |
| 16:44.40 | Hesselgren | Does anyone know where AceDebug-2.0 library file is? |
| 16:45.03 | Hesselgren | And the other one is SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 |
| 16:45.40 | starlon | krage`: sortMethod = ["INDEX", "NAME"] -- defines how the group is sorted (Default: "INDEX") |
| 16:46.14 | lagger | whats GTB-Beta1? |
| 16:46.14 | starlon | and sortDir = ["ASC", "DESC"] -- defines the sort order (Default: "ASC") |
| 16:47.39 | krage` | hmm, k |
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| 16:48.00 | p3lim | hm just got a big spam in my chat frame |
| 16:48.18 | starlon | keylogger |
| 16:48.22 | krage` | thx starlon |
| 16:48.24 | p3lim | was going out through an instance in combat |
| 16:48.26 | starlon | np |
| 16:48.35 | p3lim | then i got alot of spam |
| 16:48.59 | p3lim | Party1 is not in your party., Party2 is not in your party. etc |
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| 16:49.03 | p3lim | like 20 lines of that crap |
| 16:50.43 | selckin | p3lim: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13278.0 |
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| 16:51.28 | p3lim | thanks.. lets hope theres an answer :) |
| 16:51.40 | selckin | bump it with "me too" :( |
| 16:51.57 | starlon | holy... it's aXXo |
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| 16:52.45 | JJSheets | Are CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_JOIN and _LEAVE events fired for Guild chat? |
| 16:53.42 | cncfanatics | probably, I can't say for sure though |
| 16:54.56 | CIA-41 | 037destiny * r72765 10Incubator/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 16:54.56 | CIA-41 | Incubator: |
| 16:54.56 | CIA-41 | - koKR Update |
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| 16:55.15 | Zergreth | hi there ;D |
| 16:55.29 | Zergreth | p3lim, you there? using your minimap addon now, vuckin sweet |
| 16:56.12 | p3lim | :D |
| 16:56.33 | Bruners | what is the name of it ? |
| 16:56.37 | p3lim | pMinimap |
| 16:56.39 | p3lim | at wowi |
| 16:56.48 | Zergreth | customized it to fit my needs |
| 16:57.01 | p3lim | (requires some lua knowledge to customize tho) |
| 16:57.02 | Zergreth | i wanted to ask you something about the tracking button though, not sure if its possible |
| 16:57.15 | p3lim | ask away |
| 16:57.19 | Zergreth | one of my professions is...err |
| 16:57.22 | Zergreth | i dunno the english name |
| 16:57.24 | Zergreth | mining or whatever |
| 16:57.28 | p3lim | yeah |
| 16:57.28 | Zergreth | so i got mineral tracking |
| 16:57.38 | Zergreth | and that icon has that ugly blizzard action bar button border |
| 16:57.44 | Zergreth | in the MiniMapTracking frame |
| 16:57.44 | p3lim | ah |
| 16:57.45 | p3lim | sec |
| 16:57.50 | Zergreth | do you think its possible to get rid of this? |
| 16:58.07 | p3lim | MiniMapTrackingIcon:SetTexCoord(0.1,0.9,0.1,0.9) |
| 16:58.11 | p3lim | should do it |
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| 16:58.21 | Zergreth | it did |
| 16:58.24 | Zergreth | w00t |
| 16:58.27 | Zergreth | thanks |
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| 16:59.07 | p3lim | yw |
| 16:59.25 | charon | hmm, i think something's gone awry with the Omen package builds |
| 16:59.43 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 16:59.55 | charon | svn tells me newest threat in trunk is 72500, but the threat-2.0.lua in http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen-r72650.zip has $Revision: 71636 $ |
| 17:00.10 | Antiarc | threat-2.0.lua may not be the last-edited file. |
| 17:00.13 | nevcairiel | maybe some other file changed? |
| 17:00.18 | charon | oh. *sigh* |
| 17:00.21 | Antiarc | the revision is only updated in files that are committed in a change |
| 17:00.26 | Antiarc | (which is irritating :P) |
| 17:00.40 | Zergreth | nevcairiel, that BT4 problem i had with the buttons not showing which hotkey im pressing only occurs with the dream layout :/ |
| 17:00.43 | charon | true. i'm apparently in the denial stage of post-svn evolution already |
| 17:00.46 | Antiarc | A RepoRevision keyword would make Threat-2.0 a lot less hacky in terms of libraryship |
| 17:00.55 | Zergreth | *i'm still having, lel |
| 17:01.01 | Zergreth | using BF |
| 17:01.05 | charon | Antiarc: oh i see the problem |
| 17:01.35 | charon | ok, nm. not an issue, just a version check mismatch |
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| 17:01.46 | nevcairiel | Zergreth: hm, works for me |
| 17:01.46 | charon | the last commit on threat-2.0 only touched lib.xml |
| 17:01.50 | nevcairiel | i use dreamlayout too |
| 17:01.57 | Zergreth | o.O |
| 17:01.59 | Zergreth | how weird |
| 17:02.11 | nevcairiel | does it work if you click the buttons with the mouse? |
| 17:02.13 | Zergreth | since you said my settings might be corrupted i tried resetting the hotkey, didnt help |
| 17:02.22 | Zergreth | well, it shows a mouse-over highlight, but thats it.. |
| 17:02.25 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72766 10AutoBar/ (Locale-esES.lua Locale-esMX.lua): |
| 17:02.25 | CIA-41 | AutoBar : |
| 17:02.25 | CIA-41 | - esES & esMX: converted escape codes to utf16. (Toadkiller i have a macro to make this) |
| 17:02.26 | charon | but i locally use a git-svn setup that broadcasts trunk's revision... which of course has confused my entire guild |
| 17:02.45 | nevcairiel | no small yellow-ish border for like the blink of an eye when you click it? :P |
| 17:02.52 | Zergreth | nope |
| 17:02.57 | Zergreth | thats exactly what i am missing |
| 17:03.01 | Zergreth | works with blizz buttons |
| 17:03.01 | nevcairiel | crazy |
| 17:03.04 | Zergreth | lemme try with zoomed |
| 17:03.06 | nevcairiel | i have that border <.< |
| 17:03.24 | Zergreth | doesnt work with zoomed either |
| 17:03.25 | Zergreth | hm |
| 17:03.46 | nevcairiel | maybe BF is broken now |
| 17:03.49 | nevcairiel | i didnt update it today |
| 17:03.50 | Zergreth | do you think its a BT4 problem? or rather BF? |
| 17:03.51 | nevcairiel | does |
| 17:03.57 | Zergreth | i got BF just today |
| 17:03.59 | Zergreth | so it might be BF |
| 17:04.14 | nevcairiel | updated it now, lemme see |
| 17:04.24 | Zergreth | alright |
| 17:04.37 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 17:04.46 | nevcairiel | someone changed DreamLayout to hide the pushed texture |
| 17:04.48 | nevcairiel | blames JJSheets |
| 17:04.52 | Zergreth | !!:D |
| 17:04.58 | JJSheets | heh |
| 17:05.00 | Zergreth | thats kinda gay |
| 17:05.08 | Zergreth | pushed texture is kinda important to me |
| 17:05.14 | nevcairiel | yeah i like it too |
| 17:05.16 | JJSheets | I'll go add it back in. |
| 17:05.16 | Zergreth | makes me notice if i clicked the wrong button or not |
| 17:05.22 | Snal| | How can i use the layouts wich exists in "World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\PitBull\Layouts" for PitBull?? |
| 17:05.23 | CIA-41 | 03trasher * r72767 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 17:05.23 | CIA-41 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:05.23 | CIA-41 | - frFR update |
| 17:05.29 | Zergreth | since i mostly focus on my bars when being in combat |
| 17:05.50 | Zergreth | oye, that might be BF related too, mistar JJSheets |
| 17:06.18 | Zergreth | whenever i reload my ui BF shows the BT4 style as "Blizzard" in the config ui of BF |
| 17:06.27 | CIA-41 | 03jjsheets * r72768 10ButtonFacade/Skins/Skins.lua: |
| 17:06.27 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade: |
| 17:06.27 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.31 | Zergreth | the buttons emselves are still dream layout, but it shows Blizzard |
| 17:06.32 | Zergreth | <3 |
| 17:06.44 | JJSheets | Zergreth, how about the sub groups under BT4? |
| 17:06.56 | Zergreth | they all show Blizzard, for whatever reason |
| 17:07.04 | JJSheets | >.< |
| 17:07.11 | nevcairiel | the sub options show DreamLayout for me |
| 17:07.16 | nevcairiel | head option is blizzard, though |
| 17:07.16 | JJSheets | O.o |
| 17:07.25 | Zergreth | haha |
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| 17:07.33 | Zergreth | looks like this is getting somewhat complicated |
| 17:07.33 | Zergreth | :D |
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| 17:07.47 | JJSheets | hmm... Zergreth, doublecheck. plz. |
| 17:08.10 | kergoth | JJSheets: i'm curious about the use case for the main addon group existing while there are child groups. does anyone use both? |
| 17:08.25 | Zergreth | now shows dreamlayout on subs too |
| 17:08.35 | Zergreth | i have some weird feeling, let me check something |
| 17:08.41 | JJSheets | kergoth, nobody uses it, but the main addon group allows you to skin all subgroups at once. |
| 17:08.44 | nevcairiel | JJSheets: i still dont get pushed textures <.< |
| 17:08.53 | JJSheets | o.o |
| 17:09.02 | JJSheets | bangs head against wall. |
| 17:09.13 | Zergreth | grins. |
| 17:09.35 | Zergreth | it shows Blizzard on the subs earlier for me |
| 17:09.40 | Zergreth | not sure why |
| 17:09.46 | Zergreth | will check the pushed textures in a second |
| 17:09.50 | Zergreth | WAU is slow |
| 17:09.51 | Zergreth | D: |
| 17:10.12 | Zergreth | but hey, other than that, BF is vuckin smexy |
| 17:10.21 | JJSheets | lol |
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| 17:11.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 17:11.08 | kergoth | JJSheets: i know that, but the main addon group being able to have its own buttons in addition to the child groups having buttons means its own settings are independent as well as applying them to child groups, hence it shows blizzard.. it doesnt act like it only affects its child groups, the way the elements page does, because it doesnt affect only its child groups, no? |
| 17:11.18 | kergoth | shrugs, was just curious about the usages |
| 17:11.47 | Zergreth | pushed texture doesnt work here either |
| 17:11.48 | JJSheets | kergoth, correct. An addon level group can have its own buttons in it. |
| 17:11.50 | CIA-41 | 03stormfx * r72769 10ButtonFacade_Serenity/ (20 files in 4 dirs): |
| 17:11.50 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade_Serenity: |
| 17:11.50 | CIA-41 | - Initial commit. |
| 17:11.59 | Zergreth | serenity, w00t |
| 17:12.02 | NivFreak | god, hyjal is really a joke isn't it... |
| 17:12.13 | Zergreth | anyway, afk, dinner time over here |
| 17:12.38 | NivFreak | and god damn WWS |
| 17:12.40 | NivFreak | down again |
| 17:12.44 | JJSheets | lol |
| 17:13.00 | genetik | seriously.. someone needs to write a stable replacement for wws |
| 17:13.07 | NivFreak | no shit |
| 17:13.18 | genetik | i'm getting tired of paying for unreliable shit |
| 17:13.27 | NivFreak | same... |
| 17:13.34 | NivFreak | I'm totally willing to pay for it too |
| 17:13.37 | genetik | yep |
| 17:13.37 | genetik | same |
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| 17:14.33 | *** join/#wowace mikezter_ (n=Miranda@drms-4d006b90.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:14.41 | genetik | i get the impression that their team suffers from "do not want help"-itis |
| 17:14.44 | CIA-41 | 03stormfx * r72770 10ButtonFacade_Serenity/ (ButtonFacade_Serenity.toc ReadMe.txt Skins.lua): |
| 17:14.44 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade_Serenity: |
| 17:14.44 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.18 | ckknight | what's WWS? |
| 17:16.26 | Peoii | wowwebstats |
| 17:16.29 | cncfanatics | wow web stats |
| 17:16.34 | Peoii | hrm... |
| 17:16.42 | cncfanatics | tbh, I might someday get into writing something like that in real lua |
| 17:16.44 | cncfanatics | sounds like fun |
| 17:16.56 | cncfanatics | (a combatlog saving tool during the raid) |
| 17:16.57 | Peoii | I might convert the private version of something we use in my guild over to something public if there was enough interest. |
| 17:17.00 | cncfanatics | and then advanced parsing afterwarse |
| 17:17.04 | CIA-41 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r72771 10Grid/Grid2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Grid2: Fix Range Status. |
| 17:17.07 | [SW]Dodge | is there a feral druid? got a question about stamina ;D |
| 17:17.10 | *** join/#wowace Silverstorm__ (n=chatzill@97-113-0-126.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 17:17.30 | Peoii | What question Dodge? |
| 17:17.39 | NeoTron | morning |
| 17:18.32 | [SW]Dodge | does the +20%stamina from HotW and +25%stamina from direbear affect sockel /enchants or just base stamina like the armor effects? |
| 17:19.07 | Peoii | It effects +stam enchants/hotw. However, it does not affect +health enchants, or anthing along those lines. |
| 17:19.16 | Peoii | So on a +15 stam gem, you're getting your bonus. |
| 17:19.27 | Peoii | but good god, never use +150 health to chest :( |
| 17:19.38 | [SW]Dodge | no i have +6stats |
| 17:19.44 | Peoii | yea, that's not a bad one. |
| 17:19.49 | SunTsu | [SW]Dodge: Sure, why wouldn't it? What's special about enchants and gems? |
| 17:19.51 | Peoii | I personally like +resil to chest for my tanking. |
| 17:19.53 | cncfanatics | there is nothing such as base stamina |
| 17:19.53 | CIA-41 | 03jjsheets * r72772 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 17:19.53 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade: |
| 17:19.53 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.03 | cncfanatics | only base hp |
| 17:20.16 | [SW]Dodge | Peoii: hmm, thats also a nice idea |
| 17:20.16 | cncfanatics | and level based stamina, which is just a static + to total sta |
| 17:23.03 | [SW]Dodge | okay, if sockels are also affected i'll not switch the def rating trinket to stamina trinket(darkmoon market) and dont use def sockel :) |
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| 17:24.45 | SunTsu | [SW]Dodge: it's "sockets" ;) With "t" ;) |
| 17:25.04 | Peoii | [SW]Dodge: Actually, I use 2 resilience enchants for tanking... +15 resil to chest, and the new +18 stam +20 resil helm enchant. It lowers your overall effective defense rating need down to 104. :P |
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| 17:25.33 | [SW]Dodge | SunTsu: +.~ |
| 17:25.48 | SunTsu | Peoii: Yeah, but increases the need of agility because you lose dodge rating |
| 17:26.04 | Peoii | SunTsu: That's okay, considering how much more itemization you free up. |
| 17:26.14 | Peoii | And I gem with a lot of +agi gems anyway ;) |
| 17:26.35 | SunTsu | Peoii: How much dodge do you end up with? |
| 17:26.38 | [SW]Dodge | Peoii: i'm at 418def and 0 resilience, but i'm looking for the chest resilience enchant |
| 17:26.45 | Peoii | Have something like 18k hp, 42% dodge, and armor capped. |
| 17:27.00 | Peoii | and thats not using either of my trinkets, both of which have a click for additional dodge. |
| 17:27.19 | SunTsu | Peoii: What gear level are you at? |
| 17:27.20 | NivFreak | so is the -20% dodge debuff in sunwell as scary as it sounds? |
| 17:27.45 | Peoii | SunTsu: Thru T5 content on that character, it's just my alt that I play from time to time. |
| 17:28.25 | Peoii | SunTsu: Mainly for nights where we're bored and say "Hay! Lets go see if we can 15 man void reaver" |
| 17:28.28 | Zergreth | nevcairiel, you still there? |
| 17:28.51 | SunTsu | Peoii: OK, that's quite a bit ahead of me |
| 17:30.43 | Zergreth | dang, i expected that |
| 17:30.44 | Zergreth | D: |
| 17:31.18 | CIA-41 | 037destiny * r72773 10TrapBar/TrapBar.lua: |
| 17:31.18 | CIA-41 | TrapBar: |
| 17:31.18 | CIA-41 | - koKR Update |
| 17:34.50 | Toadkiller | JJSheets: In group:AddButton(frame, frame.LBFButtonData), what is the Name key in LBFButtonData? |
| 17:35.08 | Toadkiller | actual button name or display name? |
| 17:35.16 | JJSheets | The Place where Blizzard puts Macro names. |
| 17:35.25 | Toadkiller | aha |
| 17:35.29 | JJSheets | if Autobar doesn't use it, leave it empty. :P |
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| 17:36.27 | Toadkiller | good point I need to set that for blizz macros |
| 17:36.39 | Toadkiller | How about Button in that same list |
| 17:37.16 | Pkekyo| | gotta love Staff...best lawyer ever o.O' |
| 17:37.21 | Zergreth | antiarc, you there? |
| 17:37.32 | CIA-41 | 03anea * r72774 10SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc core.lua readme.txt report/report.lua): |
| 17:37.32 | CIA-41 | SpamSentry 20080504: |
| 17:37.32 | CIA-41 | - Fixed typo causing error feedback system |
| 17:37.48 | *** join/#wowace InSAT (n=InSAT@87.10.197.145) |
| 17:37.49 | Zergreth | or does anybody else know how that nickname auto complete module of Chatter works? |
| 17:37.50 | Antiarc | Antiarc is away. I am Jeeves, his self-aware autoresponder/helper bot. How may I assist you? |
| 17:38.03 | Zergreth | see above |
| 17:38.04 | Zergreth | D: |
| 17:38.04 | Pkekyo| | bwahah, geif dat boor |
| 17:38.05 | Pkekyo| | bot* |
| 17:38.16 | Zergreth | i somewhat doubt it exists |
| 17:38.24 | JJSheets | Toadkiller, I believe Button is the button number, I don't think Autobar uses it. leave it blank. |
| 17:38.40 | Toadkiller | ah so the actionId |
| 17:38.49 | Pkekyo| | zomg TOADKILLER! |
| 17:38.56 | Toadkiller | sup pkek |
| 17:38.57 | Pkekyo| | been waiting for you to show your face here for EVER |
| 17:39.03 | JJSheets | lol |
| 17:39.05 | Toadkiller | been here for like weeks |
| 17:39.11 | Pkekyo| | and now I don't even fucking remember why....can you ask me like five months ago please? |
| 17:39.31 | Toadkiller | 5 months lol your question is totally obsolete, guaranteed |
| 17:39.46 | Pkekyo| | maybe so, but an answer would be awesome |
| 17:39.58 | Pkekyo| | either way, what addons do you maintain? maybe it could spark my memory |
| 17:40.12 | Antiarc | The secret sauce is the tabComplete function |
| 17:40.16 | Antiarc | If you're looking to hack on it |
| 17:40.23 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: oh i also do gridMissingBuffs or something |
| 17:40.44 | Pkekyo| | I would never put my hands on grid, so doubt it's that |
| 17:40.44 | Zergreth | *sigh* |
| 17:40.49 | Toadkiller | which needs babblezone ripped out but i dont have time |
| 17:40.52 | Zergreth | i actually just wanted to know how to get it to work |
| 17:40.57 | Zergreth | since it doesnt seem to do, ingame |
| 17:41.02 | Zergreth | not trying to copy it or something |
| 17:41.24 | Antiarc | It feeds off of names picked up by the playernames module, restricted by channel |
| 17:41.32 | Toadkiller | Zergreth: it should be tab completion most likely |
| 17:41.33 | Antiarc | So that you'll tab through people in a given channel, IRC-style |
| 17:41.56 | Zergreth | i know what it SHOULD do |
| 17:42.01 | Zergreth | but i also know it doesnt do that |
| 17:42.01 | Zergreth | o.O |
| 17:43.34 | NivFreak | is Azgalor a difficult fight? |
| 17:43.41 | NivFreak | or a joke like the first 3 |
| 17:44.02 | Chompers | the doom boss right |
| 17:44.04 | NivFreak | yep |
| 17:44.16 | Chompers | he was okay, a little harder than the others |
| 17:44.19 | Antiarc | Azgalor is a joke |
| 17:44.25 | NivFreak | k |
| 17:44.28 | NivFreak | because man |
| 17:44.32 | NivFreak | we fucked up hard on kaz last night |
| 17:44.36 | NivFreak | and still killed him our first attempt |
| 17:44.44 | Antiarc | Well, he's harder than Kaz |
| 17:44.45 | NivFreak | healers failed to position on engage |
| 17:44.46 | Chompers | if kael took you one night to learn, no problem |
| 17:44.48 | Antiarc | But Kaz is easier than trash |
| 17:44.51 | NivFreak | I died |
| 17:44.55 | NivFreak | melee got wiped out |
| 17:44.57 | NivFreak | 2nd tank got aggro |
| 17:45.01 | NivFreak | I got a brez |
| 17:45.06 | Peoii | Best advise I can give you? He does nothing but physical dmg... if you put your best druid on Azgalor, you'll win ;) |
| 17:45.06 | NivFreak | 2nd tank died, I regain aggro |
| 17:45.13 | NivFreak | 50% of the raid dead at 60% |
| 17:45.16 | NivFreak | and we killed him |
| 17:45.28 | NivFreak | Peoii: I far outgear our druids |
| 17:45.33 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: what other addons have you made besides that grid crap |
| 17:45.34 | Pkekyo| | ? |
| 17:45.46 | Peoii | NivFreak: Not if you're not armor capped you don't, not for that fight :P |
| 17:45.55 | Peoii | And you can't armor cap unless you're a druid ;) |
| 17:45.56 | CIA-41 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72775 10RBM/RBM/ (9 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 17:45.56 | CIA-41 | RBM: RC2 Released. |
| 17:45.56 | CIA-41 | ** Bug |
| 17:45.56 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.56 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.57 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.59 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.20 | CIA-41 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72776 10RBM/RBM_BigWigs/ (BigWigs.lua RBM_BigWigs.toc): RBM_BigWigs: Update for gradients. |
| 17:47.44 | CIA-41 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72777 10RBM/RBM_BlackTemple/ (Council.lua Illidan.lua RBM_BlackTemple.toc Souls.lua): RBM_BlackTemple: Council, Illidan, and Souls Bug Fixes. |
| 17:47.59 | p3lim | what is RBM? |
| 17:48.04 | *** join/#wowace Lywellyn (n=josh@oh-76-1-48-205.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 17:48.04 | CIA-41 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72778 10RBM/RBM_Config/ (Config.lua Locales/enUS.lua): RBM_Config: RC2 Update |
| 17:48.09 | NivFreak | meh |
| 17:48.14 | NivFreak | wowjutsu is having issues too |
| 17:48.20 | Peoii | oh ffs... :( |
| 17:48.28 | Chompers | boss timers |
| 17:48.29 | Peoii | Why can't people protect their bloody passwords? |
| 17:48.30 | CIA-41 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72779 10RBM/RBM_DrumWatch/DrumWatch.lua: RBM_DrumWatch: Nolonger Tabs. |
| 17:48.39 | p3lim | ait |
| 17:48.43 | Apoco | Actually no, its not bosstimers |
| 17:48.43 | Apoco | :p |
| 17:49.39 | Peoii | Officers account got hacked last night, and they snapped up our entire guild vault. |
| 17:49.47 | Apoco | pwnt |
| 17:49.48 | Chompers | om nom nom |
| 17:49.51 | Peoii | Aside from... oddly... our sunmotes... |
| 17:50.01 | Apoco | I've had guild leaders accounts get hacked before |
| 17:50.05 | Apoco | they never touched the gbank |
| 17:50.06 | Peoii | Though they took the sulferion ingot... lol? |
| 17:50.09 | Apoco | so chances are it was the officers. |
| 17:50.10 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=nahh@180.84-49-87.nextgentel.com) |
| 17:50.23 | Peoii | Nah |
| 17:50.42 | Apoco | The gbank they did it too had over 100k g in it, and the gm's account got hacked |
| 17:50.44 | Peoii | This is about the 4th guild it's happened to on our server in the last month. |
| 17:50.48 | *** join/#wowace erzy (n=AFAP-Erz@c-fb60e253.533-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:50.54 | Apoco | they logged in, gdisbanded logged out, transfered |
| 17:51.04 | Zergreth | hm |
| 17:51.22 | CIA-41 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72780 10RBM/RBM_PvPWatch/ (. RBM_PvPWatch.lua RBM_PvPWatch.toc embeds.xml): RBM_PvPWatch: Update to use LibBabble-Class-3.0 |
| 17:51.54 | Tinyboom | nevcairiel: ping |
| 17:51.56 | CIA-41 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72781 10RBM/RBM_Sunwell/ (Muru.lua RBM_Sunwell.toc locales/enUS.lua): RBM_Sunwell: Muru |
| 17:52.18 | CIA-41 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72782 10RBM/RBM_ZulAman/RBM_ZulAman.toc: RBM_ZulAman: Toc Change |
| 17:52.22 | nevcairiel | Tinyboom: pong |
| 17:52.24 | Apoco | think thats it. |
| 17:52.50 | Zergreth | great, now i can talk to you nevcairiel :D |
| 17:52.58 | Xinhuan | i still don't understand the point of wasting/paying $25 for transferring a character you hacked |
| 17:52.58 | Tinyboom | nevcairiel: any chance of a globals setting in bt4? :) like setting all bars to same % scale:) |
| 17:53.08 | Zergreth | do you still have a german locale or somebody who wants to help you out with one for BT4? |
| 17:53.13 | Zergreth | if not, i could help i guess |
| 17:53.17 | nevcairiel | Tinyboom: maybe later |
| 17:53.27 | Zergreth | Tinyboom, that sounds awesumpoop |
| 17:53.32 | Zergreth | i would like that too |
| 17:53.33 | Xinhuan | you can't even transfer more than 10k gold per character you transfer |
| 17:53.44 | nevcairiel | i could translate BT4 myself into german, but i think it sounds so damn crappy |
| 17:53.49 | Xinhuan | so any monetary transfers across servers has to be done by item commodity |
| 17:53.50 | nevcairiel | so i dont do it |
| 17:53.59 | Zergreth | nevcairiel, i'm german, so i could do that |
| 17:54.05 | Apoco | Xinhuan: I transfered with over 25k on me |
| 17:54.08 | nevcairiel | so am i :P |
| 17:54.24 | Tinyboom | nevcairiel: kk:) just suggesting, since I just started using it and missed that option to speed up initial setup:) |
| 17:54.32 | Xinhuan | hmm maybe they increased the gold limit |
| 17:54.36 | Zergreth | nevcairiel, wait, what? |
| 17:54.40 | Apoco | I had to call to get the transfer approved though |
| 17:54.46 | Apoco | the auto-system wouldnt let me do it |
| 17:54.48 | Zergreth | im confuzzled now |
| 17:54.49 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 17:54.54 | Zergreth | why dont you translate it yourself then |
| 17:54.54 | Zergreth | :o |
| 17:54.55 | Apoco | because of my mounts |
| 17:55.00 | Xinhuan | mounts? |
| 17:55.05 | Apoco | Ashes of Alar/ White Raptor |
| 17:55.10 | Apoco | they thought the account was hacked |
| 17:55.16 | Zergreth | oshit |
| 17:55.16 | Xinhuan | why do those mounts prevent transfer |
| 17:55.17 | Zergreth | white raptor |
| 17:55.20 | Zergreth | sexiest mount alive |
| 17:55.21 | nevcairiel | Zergreth: because i think people should use the english version of wow, the german texts sound crap |
| 17:55.26 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 17:55.37 | Apoco | because they are probably the most rare mounts in the game and increase account value 200% |
| 17:55.49 | Zergreth | nevcairiel, it does SOMETIMES, but im all for german stuff. if you dont want to make a german locale for BT4, i will :P |
| 17:55.51 | Xinhuan | that's good to know i guess, if i ever transfer servers (i have the legendary bug mount) |
| 17:56.12 | Apoco | they said it just got flagged for review |
| 17:56.21 | Apoco | and I had to call in and give my cd key and shit |
| 17:56.26 | Xinhuan | one of my guildies have 190k gold |
| 17:56.32 | NivFreak | wow |
| 17:56.33 | Xinhuan | i only have 110k hehe |
| 17:56.52 | Apoco | you farm to much |
| 17:56.53 | Apoco | :p |
| 17:56.55 | Xinhuan | i can earn 1k a day though, just playing AH using JC |
| 17:56.58 | Xinhuan | i don't farm |
| 17:57.08 | Apoco | then transfer 50k to me please |
| 17:57.16 | Xinhuan | i buy ore from AH, prospect, cut, put on AH |
| 17:57.21 | Xinhuan | and that's 1k profit a day easy |
| 17:57.23 | Xinhuan | if i bother |
| 17:57.23 | Zergreth | im still waiting for the next person to reach the gold limit actually |
| 17:57.32 | Apoco | I could if I tried |
| 17:57.35 | Apoco | no real reason too |
| 17:57.36 | cncfanatics | white raptor ? |
| 17:57.41 | Apoco | I can't spend the money I have |
| 17:57.41 | cncfanatics | what mount is that ? |
| 17:57.42 | Xinhuan | either me or my guildie can reach gold limit |
| 17:57.48 | Xinhuan | if we traded each other half our gold ;p |
| 17:58.02 | Apoco | cncfanatics: Its a white raptor |
| 17:58.03 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: too much time on your hands ? |
| 17:58.06 | cncfanatics | whats its actual name ? |
| 17:58.09 | cncfanatics | can't find it on wowhead :p |
| 17:58.13 | Apoco | Swift Ivory Raptor |
| 17:58.30 | Apoco | It was one of the original troll epic mounts, that was removed in like 1.2 |
| 17:58.39 | Apoco | most people traded their in or have been banned since then |
| 17:58.43 | cncfanatics | did anyone actualy trade in his ? |
| 17:58.48 | Xinhuan | i did :( |
| 17:58.54 | Xinhuan | i thought the new ones are cooloer |
| 17:58.55 | Apoco | I know of 30 people alone that have them on banned accounts |
| 17:58.56 | Xinhuan | cooler |
| 17:58.58 | cncfanatics | that mount looks WAY WAY WAY better then the other ones |
| 17:59.11 | NivFreak | Apoco: banned for what? |
| 17:59.12 | p3lim | what is _the_ best place to farm Knothide Leather? |
| 17:59.19 | Apoco | Selling accounts jacking them back |
| 17:59.21 | Apoco | multiple times |
| 17:59.22 | elite3vil | BM as a pally tank =P |
| 17:59.23 | NivFreak | lol |
| 17:59.24 | Xinhuan | Netherstorm |
| 17:59.29 | Apoco | cussing, racial slurs |
| 17:59.31 | Xinhuan | kill the mana wyrms |
| 17:59.33 | Xinhuan | then skin them |
| 17:59.42 | Apoco | ninja looting rag stuff |
| 17:59.43 | Xinhuan | gets you primal mana and leather at the same time |
| 17:59.47 | Apoco | tons of different reasons |
| 18:00.00 | Zergreth | the white raptor is the sexiest mount ever, shame you cant get it anymore, totally sucks D: |
| 18:00.11 | Apoco | One told a GM he was going to beat his grandmother with a mountaindew bottle until she went limp and then stick it in her ass |
| 18:00.16 | Apoco | but he's just a stupid shit |
| 18:00.17 | cncfanatics | hmmm, anyone here that has some sense of GUI design ? I need advice |
| 18:00.28 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 18:00.33 | cncfanatics | Apoco: noone can be THAT stupid |
| 18:00.35 | Zergreth | cncfanatics, just design or actual coding of the design? |
| 18:00.39 | cncfanatics | design |
| 18:00.41 | cncfanatics | I do the coding |
| 18:00.42 | Apoco | cncfanatics: He is |
| 18:00.49 | cncfanatics | I just need advice on how it should look :p |
| 18:00.54 | Apoco | Zergreth: If you can find one unsoulbound you ca still buy them |
| 18:00.56 | *** join/#wowace mort_ (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 18:01.01 | Zergreth | well, what is it about? |
| 18:01.08 | cncfanatics | let me explain |
| 18:01.16 | cncfanatics | I have a list of say, 200 things with random names |
| 18:01.17 | Zergreth | Apoco, i doubt anybody still has one not used ._. |
| 18:01.22 | cncfanatics | I need to let the user select X of them in a GUI |
| 18:01.22 | Apoco | I have 3 :p |
| 18:01.30 | cncfanatics | and I'm wondering HOW to do that in an intuitive way |
| 18:01.35 | Apoco | sitting on a level 10 alt on Thunderlord |
| 18:01.40 | Apoco | scared to transfer them off |
| 18:01.40 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72783 10FuBar_VolumeFu/VolumeFuLocale-esES.lua: |
| 18:01.40 | CIA-41 | FuBar_VolumeFu: |
| 18:01.40 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:01.40 | Pkekyo| | Apoco: WHY MOUNTAIN DEW?! :p |
| 18:01.41 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejtHYBgZl2w&feature=related |
| 18:01.43 | Zergreth | apoco, what the FUCK |
| 18:02.00 | Zergreth | cncfanatics, selecting several entries of those 200? |
| 18:02.02 | Apoco | I knew when they announced they were changing them that they would be worth a fortune |
| 18:02.07 | Apoco | so I bought several |
| 18:02.10 | Zergreth | search bar and ctrl + click? |
| 18:02.11 | cncfanatics | Zergreth: or one entry, totaly the user's choice |
| 18:02.34 | Xinhuan | use a faux scroll pane |
| 18:02.36 | Zergreth | like, that multi-select behaviour |
| 18:02.44 | Chompers | Antiarc: that's awesome |
| 18:02.49 | Pkekyo| | Apoco: white raptor? |
| 18:02.55 | Apoco | Yes |
| 18:03.10 | cncfanatics | with autocomplete ? |
| 18:03.13 | cncfanatics | sounds like an idea to me |
| 18:03.16 | cncfanatics | a textbox with autocomplete |
| 18:03.23 | cncfanatics | and a list of selected buttons under that ? |
| 18:03.29 | Pkekyo| | Apoco: elaborate? |
| 18:03.38 | Apoco | its a ....white...raptor? |
| 18:03.42 | Apoco | You know like green but not? |
| 18:03.46 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 18:03.55 | cncfanatics | Apoco: I'd pay over 2000g for one |
| 18:04.04 | Pkekyo| | Apoco: eat my arse out...how/where to get?! |
| 18:04.09 | Apoco | I've had offers of over 25k |
| 18:04.10 | cncfanatics | Zergreth: what you think ? |
| 18:04.13 | cncfanatics | :o, wow |
| 18:04.20 | cncfanatics | I'm not that rich since I stopped playing :p |
| 18:04.34 | Zergreth | cncfanatics, autocomplete is sexy |
| 18:04.49 | cncfanatics | anoyingly hard to implement too |
| 18:04.58 | Zergreth | true ;D |
| 18:05.03 | Pkekyo| | Apoco: and yet you didn't sell?! when you have 3x?! |
| 18:05.17 | grzesieq | cncfanatics: is it? |
| 18:05.18 | Zergreth | btw, anybody else playing a mage here? |
| 18:05.26 | Azurewrath | me |
| 18:05.28 | cncfanatics | grzesieq: more anoying then hard actualy |
| 18:05.30 | Xinhuan | me |
| 18:05.31 | cncfanatics | but still anoying :p |
| 18:05.34 | Pkekyo| | Zergreth: <--- |
| 18:05.41 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72784 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-esES.lua: |
| 18:05.41 | CIA-41 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:05.41 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:05.50 | Zergreth | do you also have the problem that the clearcast sound is gone since 2.4? |
| 18:06.00 | Xinhuan | don't even have that talent, sorry |
| 18:06.12 | Xinhuan | 2/48/11 :) |
| 18:06.16 | Zergreth | agh |
| 18:06.17 | Zergreth | D: |
| 18:06.38 | Pkekyo| | <--- doesn't play with sound, doesn't have the talent |
| 18:06.45 | cncfanatics | I don't play with sound here |
| 18:06.48 | Zergreth | mang, that hurts |
| 18:06.54 | Zergreth | but i guess its a patch problem |
| 18:06.55 | cncfanatics | since they implemented 2.0 sound lags me horribly |
| 18:06.57 | Zergreth | cant be me, no way |
| 18:07.04 | Zergreth | o.O |
| 18:07.29 | Xinhuan | audio cues are important |
| 18:07.31 | Azurewrath | Zergreth: 2/48/11 .. and i don't play with sound anymore :) |
| 18:07.32 | *** join/#wowace Bubi (n=michael_@d86-33-247-31.cust.tele2.at) |
| 18:07.33 | Xinhuan | any pvper will tell you hehe |
| 18:07.41 | Bubi | hi |
| 18:07.52 | Peoii | <-- Mage... but hold up, mages still have clearcasting? :/ |
| 18:08.06 | Peoii | 4/46/11 ftw... |
| 18:08.21 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72785 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFuLocales.esES.lua: |
| 18:08.21 | CIA-41 | FuBar_ToFu: |
| 18:08.21 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:08.23 | Lywellyn | I'm a mage, and I have Clearcasting, and I play with sound...but I guess I don't pay close enough attention to it. :p |
| 18:08.24 | Xinhuan | a paladin once described to me "if you hear the sound of a whirlwind from your speakers, you will immediately know that you can safely cast a flash of light without getting pummeled due to the warrior's GCD" |
| 18:08.29 | Azurewrath | 4/46/11? wtf? |
| 18:09.11 | Zergreth | somebody give me a link to that 2/48/11 one |
| 18:09.15 | Zergreth | i want to take a look at it |
| 18:09.25 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: true, but arena doesn't have 25 people + a boss + omen + bossmods using a lot of CPU power |
| 18:09.32 | Azurewrath | you don't know it? oO |
| 18:09.33 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72786 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFuLocals-esES.lua: |
| 18:09.33 | CIA-41 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 18:09.33 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:09.34 | cncfanatics | so they can enable sound without lagging, unlike me & my crappc |
| 18:09.41 | Xinhuan | audio sounds doesn't use a lot of CPU power :o |
| 18:09.47 | Zergreth | Azurewrath, nope :D |
| 18:09.48 | cncfanatics | they slow down my comp horribly |
| 18:09.50 | cncfanatics | dunno why, but they do |
| 18:09.54 | cncfanatics | both on windows & linux |
| 18:09.54 | Xinhuan | barely 0.1% even |
| 18:09.55 | Lywellyn | 10/51/0 :p |
| 18:10.05 | Bubi | is there an addon out there, which can list me all marked targets in a raid? like mt-targets except it lists the marked mobs.. ? |
| 18:10.14 | Xinhuan | Bubi not possible |
| 18:10.20 | Xinhuan | blizzard restriction |
| 18:10.25 | Peoii | Azurewrath: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=orZxgzzfcIoeRtVhM0o <-- I've given up 2% crit on scorch/fireblast (neither of which I use much if I can help it) to be hit capped for the arcane tree (increasing my overall dps in Hyjal trash/etc quite a bit) |
| 18:10.31 | CIA-41 | 03profalbert * r72787 10/branches/FuBar_DBMFu/ (. DBMFu.lua FuBar_DBMFu.toc embeds.xml): |
| 18:10.31 | CIA-41 | FuBar_DBMFu: |
| 18:10.31 | CIA-41 | - fubar-icon for Deadly Boss Mods |
| 18:10.31 | CIA-41 | - initial commit |
| 18:10.35 | Zergreth | guess mines somewhat the most weird one, 21/40/0 :/ |
| 18:10.36 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72788 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 18:10.36 | CIA-41 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 18:10.36 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:10.51 | dylanm | Bubi: Have you checked out MagicTargets/MagicMarker? |
| 18:11.01 | Lywellyn | Zergreth: Nah, I think I know guildmates with that build. |
| 18:11.04 | Azurewrath | Peoii: erm.. you should be hit capped in Hyjal anyway... |
| 18:11.16 | Zergreth | Lywellyn, phew, makes me feel way better, thanks |
| 18:11.16 | Zergreth | :D |
| 18:11.20 | Bubi | no, i just found SmartAssit, but this is too old to work.. i will check it out |
| 18:11.23 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=nahh@180.84-49-87.nextgentel.com) |
| 18:11.30 | grzesieq | cncfanatics: i heared preprocessing data is the key. but i was half asleep on that class ;) |
| 18:11.33 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72789 10LibDogTag-2.0/Localization/esES.lua: |
| 18:11.33 | CIA-41 | LibDogTag-2.0: |
| 18:11.33 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:11.33 | dylanm | I haven't, but it sounds like something that might be useful. Maybe NeoTron can shed some light on the matter. |
| 18:11.38 | Peoii | Azurewrath: You are... but the 4% for arcane balances out with the 3% you're getting from fire for elemntal precision... |
| 18:11.58 | Peoii | Azurewrath: Speaking of Arcane explosion and the like. |
| 18:11.59 | Lywellyn | Zergreth: Isn't that the standard PoM build? |
| 18:12.10 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72790 10Nauticus/Locales/locale.esES.lua: |
| 18:12.10 | CIA-41 | Nauticus: |
| 18:12.10 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:12.11 | cncfanatics | grzesieq: about autocompletetion or sound queues ? |
| 18:12.17 | grzesieq | autocompletion |
| 18:12.22 | Zergreth | kinda, yea |
| 18:12.37 | Zergreth | just that my one is a bit...weird |
| 18:12.49 | Lywellyn | I can't put that many points into the Arcane tree....I like my fire spells/abilities/talents way too much. |
| 18:12.53 | Azurewrath | Peoii: well.. ae dps on trash is not really what counts.. you should spec for maximum boss dps, thats the only thing that counts :) |
| 18:12.54 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72791 10Skillet/Locale/Locale-esES.lua: |
| 18:12.54 | CIA-41 | Skillet: |
| 18:12.54 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:13.06 | Zergreth | i thought about dropping it, too |
| 18:13.14 | *** join/#wowace Silverstorm__ (n=chatzill@97-113-0-126.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 18:13.18 | Peoii | Azurewrath: Which I am :P Exactly what else is essential in fire that I'm missing? :P |
| 18:13.23 | Zergreth | but improves counterspell is so awwwweeeeeeeeeeesome D: |
| 18:14.07 | grzesieq | 0/40/21 is the shit now :P |
| 18:14.07 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72792 10TradeskillInfo/ (TradeskillData-esES.lua TradeskillInfo.lua): |
| 18:14.07 | CIA-41 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 18:14.07 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:14.07 | Lywellyn | Everyone's all "PoM Pyro!" "PoM Poly!" And I say "NI!" to that. |
| 18:14.07 | *** join/#wowace Vanduror (n=Who@home.codevision.nl) |
| 18:14.07 | *** join/#wowace Silencer (n=Silencer@77.46.243.196) |
| 18:14.07 | Peoii | 2% more crit for scorch/fireblast? You shouldn't be fireblasting at all with the ignite bug. (unless you're moving of course), and you should only be scorching at max once every 30 seconds (less if you have intelligent guildmates) |
| 18:14.09 | Xinhuan | umm, 2/48/11 should be better described as 2/47/11 + 1 |
| 18:14.17 | Azurewrath | 2/48/11 or 10/48/3 if you have a crappy shadow.. everything else is crap.. or pvp, which is again crap. :) |
| 18:14.23 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72793 10TradeskillInfoUI/ (TradeskillInfoConfig-esES.lua TradeskillInfoUI-esES.lua): |
| 18:14.23 | CIA-41 | TradeskillInfoUI: |
| 18:14.23 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:14.26 | Lywellyn | I don't scorch at all, and I fire blast all the time. o_O |
| 18:14.38 | grzesieq | Azurewrath: you missed out 0/40/21 :P |
| 18:14.52 | CIA-41 | 03StiviS * r72794 10VisualThemes/Locales/esES.lua: |
| 18:14.52 | CIA-41 | VisualThemes: |
| 18:14.52 | CIA-41 | - esES updated |
| 18:15.03 | Xinhuan | because you really only need 47 in fire with 1 filler point |
| 18:15.03 | Bubi | dylanm: MagicMarker looks very usefull :> but i can't find anythin about MagicTargets... :( |
| 18:15.07 | Xinhuan | which most will put in fireblast |
| 18:15.15 | Azurewrath | grzesieq: erm.. 40 in fire means no MF and no EF.. you fail. |
| 18:15.36 | Peoii | Eh, realistically, there's a grand total of a 1dps loss for the 1 point in Incineration that i'm missing. and for that, I gain 2% +hit to all my arcane tools. (which btw: also helps on bosses, not jsut trash) |
| 18:15.58 | NeoTron | Bubi: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6518.msg206939#msg206939 |
| 18:16.19 | Xinhuan | realistically speaking, what arcane spells do you cast on the boss? |
| 18:16.26 | Peoii | Spellsteal. |
| 18:16.31 | Xinhuan | that's a fringe case |
| 18:16.41 | Bubi | NeoTron: thank you, i will read trough it... |
| 18:16.46 | Peoii | I tank on Council every single week, wouldn't call that "fringe" :P |
| 18:16.48 | dylanm | http://i25.tinypic.com/2dsmxwm.jpg |
| 18:16.48 | Zergreth | Azurewrath, with 40 in fire you can have both MF and EF |
| 18:16.58 | dylanm | That's what I'm talking about. |
| 18:17.03 | Xinhuan | that's why its 2/48/11 |
| 18:17.11 | Xinhuan | the 2 points in arcane is for the 4% spellhit |
| 18:17.17 | NeoTron | Bubi: essentially it shows all targets of the raid |
| 18:17.19 | Xinhuan | so your gear only needs 12% |
| 18:17.21 | grzesieq | Azurewrath: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oZxgM0fMs0gRxihMcobbo cba to put frost talents with sense |
| 18:17.32 | Xinhuan | for counterspells and spellsteals |
| 18:17.44 | Xinhuan | and your fire gear needs 13% for hit cap |
| 18:17.48 | Peoii | ah, I see. See, I also take arcane subtlety |
| 18:17.54 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/mgt.jpg recent screenshot |
| 18:18.02 | Peoii | for fights like say Gurtogg/etc. |
| 18:18.06 | Xinhuan | arcane subtlety is useless for the most part |
| 18:18.38 | Xinhuan | and how does it help at gurtugg ? |
| 18:18.48 | cncfanatics | anyone a bit experienced with AceGUI ? |
| 18:18.51 | cncfanatics | I'm heaving some issue |
| 18:19.00 | JJSheets | Is there any addon that keeps track of the rest XP for all of your realm's characters? I'd like to not have to log in to each to check. :p |
| 18:19.01 | Azurewrath | Groktar: mhm.. playing with fire and pyromaniac not maxed.. for that some useless things like shatter.. naaaaah |
| 18:19.03 | NeoTron | rumor has it an arcane/frost spec works well with 2xt5, 4xt6 |
| 18:19.05 | Peoii | Because when I threat cap with fire spells, I switch to AM, and can keep dpsing even if invis is on CD. |
| 18:19.08 | Azurewrath | grzesieq: mhm.. playing with fire and pyromaniac not maxed.. for that some useless things like shatter.. naaaaah |
| 18:19.11 | Lywellyn | JJSheets: FuBar_RestFu |
| 18:19.12 | kenlyric | JJSheets: RestFu |
| 18:19.18 | kenlyric | JJSheets: Allplayed |
| 18:19.21 | grzesieq | Azurewrath: you seem to miss the whole point |
| 18:19.23 | JJSheets | cool. thanks. |
| 18:19.24 | Bubi | NeoTron , dylanm: nice, i will try it :) |
| 18:19.26 | Xinhuan | you shouldn't be threat capped ever after using invis |
| 18:19.32 | grzesieq | Azurewrath: 2x icy veins in one fight |
| 18:19.41 | kenlyric | allplayed is good if you're not a fubar fan, otherwise I think restfu is the most efficient |
| 18:19.46 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: its sexy for threat resets |
| 18:19.48 | Xinhuan | also gurtogg is not a dps fight |
| 18:20.01 | Xinhuan | so its not really fair to compare speccing for dps for a non-dps fight |
| 18:20.02 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: in a way, invis is like life tap - it's a threat dump but it lowers dps |
| 18:20.07 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 18:20.09 | kenlyric | warning though: restfu (or maybe the game) fails at calculating your rest at 150% when you're not in an inn. |
| 18:20.17 | Peoii | I view everything as a dps fight |
| 18:20.31 | Peoii | The more dps I can do on a non-dps fight, the faster we can get it over with. |
| 18:21.09 | cncfanatics | not always true |
| 18:21.14 | cncfanatics | your dps doesn't always matter :p |
| 18:21.23 | cncfanatics | sometimes its the healers that matter, or the tanks |
| 18:21.26 | Peoii | Oh I agree. |
| 18:21.34 | Peoii | I'm just saying from a personal view. |
| 18:21.48 | Xinhuan | that's why i say arcane subt is not really a useful raid talent |
| 18:22.06 | Peoii | To each their own, I don't think incineration is a raid useful talent either :) |
| 18:22.14 | cncfanatics | I'm 100% sure invis reduces ur dps less then you are reducing your dps by taking it |
| 18:22.23 | Peoii | I scorch at most once per minute. |
| 18:23.13 | Xinhuan | at least improved scorch will benefit you on every fight |
| 18:23.19 | Xinhuan | arcane subt will only benefit you on gurtogg |
| 18:23.34 | Peoii | (and supremus, but I understand what you're saying) |
| 18:23.43 | Xinhuan | just put CoE on supremus heh |
| 18:23.54 | Peoii | Even with, he's not completely negated. |
| 18:24.15 | Xinhuan | yeah but again, you're just bringing up specific bosses |
| 18:24.15 | Bubi | NeoTron: Exactly that what i was looking for, big thanks. |
| 18:24.16 | Peoii | So your spellpen actually means something on that fight, omgosh. 1 fight in how many bliz? thanks for that itemization :P |
| 18:24.20 | Xinhuan | not the "general case" |
| 18:24.58 | Peoii | Xinhuan: But you missed my point, I have imp scorch, I'm only saying incineration is just about as worthless as anything else you can get. |
| 18:25.04 | NeoTron | Bubi: glad to help :) |
| 18:25.20 | Xinhuan | when theorycrafting we always consider the average/general case :) |
| 18:25.27 | NeoTron | still early in development mind you so feel free to report bugs/feature requests (that thread is best for now until I make a dedicated one) |
| 18:25.58 | NeoTron | one feature I was thinking about is to have an emphasized bar where it places untanked targets after a set period of time |
| 18:26.01 | NeoTron | useful for tanks |
| 18:26.50 | Bubi | would be great, but one question, does it show all targets in range of an groupmember? |
| 18:27.00 | Odlaw | I can't seem to find anything, but is there a command to open a chat dialog with a NPC? |
| 18:27.01 | dylanm | That's impossible. |
| 18:27.07 | dylanm | To Bubi. |
| 18:27.07 | Groktar | i just discovered snapshotbar |
| 18:27.10 | Groktar | best mod ever omg |
| 18:27.19 | Odlaw | err rather a way to open the merchant window |
| 18:27.28 | stew_a | Odlaw - i dont think so, nameplates are the best way to go in situations like QD |
| 18:27.32 | Groktar | since i move basically every button on two bars when i go from shadow to holy |
| 18:28.06 | Odlaw | damn, having problems when people stand on NPCs, was trying to find a function to open them up :( |
| 18:28.24 | Odlaw | rather than show nameplates cuz there's just a ton of nameplates, and they move all over the screen |
| 18:28.29 | Bubi | dylanm: hmm :( no big problem, i am glad to have something like that :> |
| 18:28.29 | CIA-41 | 03jerry * r72795 10GridAlert/GridAlert.lua: GridAlert: Bugfix |
| 18:28.53 | stew_a | Odlaw: dont think it can be done |
| 18:29.07 | NeoTron | dylanm: it would be possible if everyone used the addon and it shared data.. |
| 18:29.09 | *** join/#wowace hypetech (n=hypetech@66.83.192.140.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 18:29.09 | Odlaw | okee, thanks anyway |
| 18:29.11 | NeoTron | but would be rather scary |
| 18:29.22 | Lywellyn | Odlaw: You can enable NPC only nameplates, I believe... |
| 18:29.29 | Odlaw | orly? |
| 18:29.53 | Lywellyn | Has something to do with....I believe it's V normally, so shift-V or ctrl-V or something like that. |
| 18:30.15 | dylanm | NeoTron: Well, they have to be units somehow. If no one is targeting or mousing over something, it's hard to track. |
| 18:30.15 | cncfanatics | v is hostile |
| 18:30.19 | cncfanatics | shift v is friendly |
| 18:30.26 | Odlaw | ah, hostile/friendly.. that's close |
| 18:30.27 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 18:30.33 | cncfanatics | dylanm: you could mark the tanks |
| 18:30.43 | cncfanatics | and if you get a combatlog of a mob hitting an unmarked target |
| 18:30.46 | cncfanatics | then flag it as untanked |
| 18:30.52 | cncfanatics | you'd even get the Guid from the log |
| 18:30.56 | dylanm | cncfanatics: Well, surely if a new GUID pops up. |
| 18:31.10 | dylanm | Your information on it is going to be spotty though. |
| 18:31.16 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 18:31.22 | cncfanatics | should be pretty accurate |
| 18:31.35 | dylanm | NeoTron: Does MagicTargets try to track health? |
| 18:31.38 | dylanm | Of said targets. |
| 18:31.40 | cncfanatics | if something does white hits on a something not marked a tank its most likely not being tanked |
| 18:31.47 | NeoTron | dylanm: that is true |
| 18:31.52 | cncfanatics | like in over 90%+ of the cases |
| 18:31.58 | dylanm | I really should try this thing out. |
| 18:32.04 | NeoTron | MT tracks healths of targeted units |
| 18:32.11 | NeoTron | not of units that currently aren't targeted |
| 18:32.37 | NeoTron | and I don't try to add untargeted mobs (I tried but it had bugs so it's a future todo to possibly fix it) |
| 18:32.44 | NeoTron | the version I had added stuff like friendly totems.. |
| 18:33.05 | stew_a | meh, monday night and already our server is unstable |
| 18:33.42 | Bruners | our server just crashed |
| 18:33.43 | charon | has recount been changed to somehow display higher DPS for the same data, am i dreaming, or is this real damage? |
| 18:34.02 | stew_a | ditto, which server Bruners? |
| 18:34.10 | kergoth | does |r revert the color to the previous one, or to white? |
| 18:34.16 | Xinhuan | to white |
| 18:34.18 | Bruners | stew_a: same as you i think, ED Eu |
| 18:34.24 | stew_a | yep thats where i am |
| 18:34.25 | Xinhuan | or rather, to the color of the widget |
| 18:34.37 | Lywellyn | 'scuse me for not totally paying attention, but what does MagicTargets do? From what I read so far it might be something I want.. |
| 18:34.45 | Xinhuan | which has a :SetTextColor() usually |
| 18:34.56 | stew_a | Bruners: just mass pulled most of solarian's room so i would imagine we're all dead |
| 18:35.04 | Bruners | hehe |
| 18:35.16 | dylanm | Wait so something like |cffcodeforyellow blah blah guffaw |cffcodeforgreen cheerio|r this isn't yellow?|r |
| 18:35.25 | kergoth | ah, okay, thanks Xinhuan |
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| 18:35.42 | Xinhuan | yep its not yellow |
| 18:35.53 | Xinhuan | it'll be whatever the default color is set for the widget |
| 18:36.04 | Elsia | heya |
| 18:36.07 | dylanm | Exciting. |
| 18:36.09 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 18:36.13 | Xinhuan | there charon, ask Elsia |
| 18:36.22 | Elsia | yeah ask.. me :P |
| 18:36.45 | charon | <charon> has recount been changed to somehow display higher DPS for the same data, am i dreaming, or is this real damage? |
| 18:37.00 | Elsia | what class? |
| 18:37.00 | Chompers | yeah dps seems high |
| 18:37.17 | Chompers | rogues are doing 1300dps :S |
| 18:37.18 | Elsia | pet classes especially shamans will see higher dps, not other classes though |
| 18:37.38 | Elsia | in what gear? 1300dps isn't unheard off |
| 18:37.47 | Chompers | perhaps, but we're shit |
| 18:38.03 | Chompers | so 1300 is really high |
| 18:39.10 | charon | Elsia: feral. doing 1350 at anetheron despite running from infernal _and_ running to the far end to rez a priest. |
| 18:40.00 | elite3vil | charon: You *were* moonfire spamming while running the whole time, right? =P |
| 18:40.11 | Elsia | since when do you think there is a chance, the damage collection code is unchanged for a rather long time now |
| 18:40.26 | *** part/#wowace Lywellyn (n=josh@oh-76-1-48-205.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 18:40.51 | Elsia | well it could be a sync bug... in hyjal certainly possible that there is syncs going on |
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| 18:41.01 | Elsia | did you compare the output of two recounts and see if they match? |
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| 18:42.04 | Bruners | had 900 something dps on my alt paladin today, doubt thats accurate |
| 18:42.15 | Ellipsis | o hai guise |
| 18:42.17 | Polarina | [Badge of Justice] form a [Shattered Sun Supplies]! :D |
| 18:42.30 | Elsia | heya elli |
| 18:42.53 | Dashkal | hai |
| 18:43.04 | elite3vil | Our server really needs to get the alch lab done.. I'm sitting on 385 badges with nothing to spend them on.. =\ |
| 18:43.30 | selckin | 1273 :( |
| 18:43.32 | Polarina | So, what can I get for one [Badge of Justice]? :) |
| 18:43.40 | Ellipsis | a cookie? |
| 18:43.55 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 18:44.01 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 18:44.03 | dylanm | Polarina: Nothing. |
| 18:44.08 | elite3vil | 1273? wth. lol. |
| 18:44.12 | dylanm | If you can get 10, we're in business. |
| 18:44.24 | Polarina | dylanm: Damn! |
| 18:50.31 | Elsia | i wonder if the dps increase is not to the increase pace of gear aquisition since 2.4, but I could be wrong |
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| 18:53.45 | Azurewrath | i hate Brutallus.. |
| 18:54.36 | Zeksie | Elsia: we've notice a problem with recount over last few days where 1 person will have a LOT more in their total than they should. like 50-80% more |
| 18:54.43 | selckin | Azurewrath: lol, me too |
| 18:55.08 | Elsia | well that's likely the sync code, I still haven't found a reliable way to debug that, when I raid it always looks fine unfortunately :( |
| 18:55.26 | selckin | disable sync imo |
| 18:55.27 | selckin | :\ |
| 18:55.49 | Fisker- | OMG SERVERS DOWN |
| 18:55.50 | Elsia | did that person DC or join the raid later than othersß |
| 18:55.51 | Elsia | ? |
| 18:55.53 | Zeksie | yeah, for me it's fine atm. last nite i had a mage up top. but he has ME up top on his right now |
| 18:56.02 | Zeksie | no |
| 18:56.05 | ramoz | lol |
| 18:56.12 | ramoz | BG9-EU is going dow |
| 18:56.30 | stew_a | large portions of EU are failing atm |
| 18:56.44 | stew_a | our instance server is still unavailable |
| 18:57.06 | Bruners | SSC seems to be up |
| 18:57.11 | Bruners | but BT and Hyjal is down |
| 18:57.23 | stew_a | and TK |
| 18:57.33 | stew_a | is down |
| 18:58.37 | Bruners | having fun on vent atleast |
| 18:59.30 | stew_a | ditto |
| 18:59.40 | syeren | This is dumb :( |
| 19:01.02 | Bruners | and its up again |
| 19:01.51 | stew_a | still not lettin me in TK |
| 19:02.16 | Bruners | not dead :P |
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| 19:03.05 | p3lim | found a bug on sellfish |
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| 19:03.12 | p3lim | items in keyring shows price twice at vendor |
| 19:03.19 | Bruners | great, everyone got ported to shattrath |
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| 19:03.47 | stew_a | yay i'm inside |
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| 19:03.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 19:04.25 | CIA-41 | 03drool * r72796 10Nauticus/NautUI.lua: |
| 19:04.25 | CIA-41 | Nauticus: |
| 19:04.25 | CIA-41 | - multiple transports in tooltip for all map icons under mouse |
| 19:04.34 | Azurewrath | asildfbspdif f*cking Brutallus... |
| 19:04.54 | NeoTron | If there are any T6 geared players, regardless of class, LFG PST. /me recruits. |
| 19:05.10 | NeoTron | except warlocks pretty much :P |
| 19:05.13 | dantor | why does guildeventmanager post chat messages from other player in the channel "gemchanneldefault"? Where do these messages come from? |
| 19:05.39 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|Actually I did not make the grid crap but I needed it so I checked it into SVN. Original author abandoned it... |
| 19:06.18 | Toadkiller | other mods I had made became obsolete with BC |
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| 19:10.57 | Tinyboom | anyone here maintaining craftlist2? http://ace.pastey.net/87288 |
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| 19:13.58 | stew_a | Tinyboom: thats been reported already yes |
| 19:14.14 | Tinyboom | stew_a: kk, didn't see |
| 19:14.30 | *** join/#wowace Nandini (n=Nandini@66.193.90.159) |
| 19:14.31 | Tinyboom | btw: Silvermoon_eu also being borked atm:p |
| 19:14.34 | stew_a | cropped up in WIM's 2.4.14 rewrite |
| 19:14.45 | Tinyboom | mhm |
| 19:16.24 | stew_a | don't know if anyone's got round to fixing it yet though |
| 19:16.49 | Dashkal | blinks |
| 19:16.54 | Dashkal | what happened to wowace.com? |
| 19:18.17 | Tinyboom | Dashkal: wowace.com looks normal to me |
| 19:18.25 | stew_a | Dashkal: same here |
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| 19:18.31 | charon | Elsia: sorry, was afk (yes during the raid, unannounced visitors ftw) ... i haven't really collected any data, just thought "woah" and figured i might ask. it could just as well be nothing, or perhaps an unlikely series of crits or some such |
| 19:18.36 | Dashkal | hmm, Then my DNS server is doing something bizarre |
| 19:18.54 | *** join/#wowace Corgan (n=Corgan@udp138899uds.hawaiiantel.net) |
| 19:19.08 | Dashkal | Domain Maintenance: "You are seeing this page because the current domain is not configured in the current set of name servers or your domain is being parked." ... |
| 19:19.09 | Nandini | Dashkal: i'm seeing a temporary page, too |
| 19:19.13 | Elsia | charon: k, if you see a persistent pattern let me know |
| 19:19.21 | Dashkal | ok, not insane then |
| 19:19.26 | Dashkal | freaky dns stuff happening |
| 19:19.45 | charon | i'll see what log analysis says after the raid |
| 19:20.54 | Nandini | i'm writing a suggestion post that idol/totem/libram swapping in combat should not reset the melee swing timer |
| 19:20.55 | chdst | I'm getting a temp for wowace, as well... |
| 19:21.00 | chdst | Here's a dig: wowace.com.593INA205.234.170.217 |
| 19:21.12 | Nandini | can anyone think of any problems that might be introduced if the swing timer were not reset? |
| 19:22.03 | Nandini | my basic rationale so far consists of 1) There are no known relics that impact weapon speed or melee haste. 2) Relic swapping favors caster/healer talent specs over melee specs. |
| 19:22.32 | stew_a | woo so there *is* an logic behind the /channelinfo ordering |
| 19:23.45 | p3lim | whats the def cat for bear? |
| 19:23.49 | p3lim | cap* |
| 19:24.00 | genetik | 415, i believe |
| 19:24.05 | Nandini | 415 defense skill + 3/3 survival of the fittest = uncrittable |
| 19:24.10 | p3lim | genetik: thanks :) |
| 19:24.19 | genetik | right, assuming talented |
| 19:24.27 | p3lim | 408 def and 99 resi should be enough right? |
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| 19:24.44 | Nandini | a total of -2.6% chance to be crit from defense skill and/or resilience is needed |
| 19:25.13 | Nandini | so yes, that's far more than enough :) |
| 19:25.21 | p3lim | :o just found out lol |
| 19:26.19 | Zeksie | Elsia: Recount-70425\Recount_Modes.lua:259: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)Recount-70425\GUI_Main.lua:618: in function `UpdateDetailData' |
| 19:26.31 | Elsia | tnx |
| 19:26.54 | Zeksie | had a pet's details selected, fiddling with show all/show last fight etc. |
| 19:27.13 | Elsia | k |
| 19:28.09 | Nandini | you will still benefit slightly from additional defense skill (more chance to dodge, less chance to be hit) and resilience (all DoT effects reduced) after you are uncrittable, but most tanks would rather focus on comfortable armor/health and then dodge from agility after becoming uncrittable |
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| 19:31.03 | Chompers | stupid archi, one death and it means a wipe |
| 19:31.14 | genetik | not always |
| 19:31.16 | selckin | only at the start |
| 19:31.28 | selckin | we have 4-5 idiots dieing usually |
| 19:31.34 | Chompers | someone always dies to the fire |
| 19:31.41 | Chompers | 100% of the time |
| 19:32.07 | Chompers | i've tried the fight as a healer and melee, it doesnt seem that hard |
| 19:32.18 | Chompers | maybe avoiding the fire is harder for caster dps |
| 19:32.43 | selckin | keke i wanna dps |
| 19:32.47 | selckin | instead of playing safe |
| 19:32.51 | genetik | no, casters who die to fire are generally just taking risks |
| 19:33.37 | genetik | we still have issues every attempt with ranged dps and healers dying to doomfire somehow |
| 19:33.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 19:34.11 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not discover it. | Switching DNS providers, everything should be fine shortly. |
| 19:34.19 | Dashkal | that would explain it |
| 19:35.00 | CIA-41 | 03stormfx * r72797 10ButtonFacade_Volii/Skins.lua: |
| 19:35.00 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade_Volii: |
| 19:35.00 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.14 | Chompers | my friend says shes watching them die to the fire |
| 19:35.22 | Chompers | they just stand in it casting, then move |
| 19:35.31 | selckin | have an attempt where they are not allowed to dps |
| 19:35.35 | selckin | if they die -dkp! |
| 19:35.48 | Chompers | we're doing exactly that :< |
| 19:36.07 | genetik | archimonde's utterly frustrating to tank, just because you see people making stupid mistakes |
| 19:36.13 | [dRaCo] | we did that, too... didn't work. some people just don't get it. |
| 19:36.18 | CIA-41 | 03stormfx * r72798 10ButtonFacade_VoliiMetal/Skins.lua: |
| 19:36.18 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade_VoliiMetal: |
| 19:36.18 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.05 | selckin | we wiped on it for like 6 days |
| 19:37.10 | selckin | then oneshotted it every time |
| 19:37.38 | genetik | eventually everyone will figure out the whole "survive" concept |
| 19:37.39 | genetik | heh |
| 19:37.45 | selckin | ppl that can't stay alive you recruit new ones |
| 19:37.49 | selckin | they can't do it in sunwell either |
| 19:38.36 | Chompers | that would've worked 6 months ago |
| 19:39.05 | syeren | The Tech support at the EU forums aren't even saying Stormscale is down. |
| 19:39.08 | syeren | Fucking idiots. |
| 19:39.21 | selckin | pritty sure thats manually updated |
| 19:39.26 | selckin | its really slow |
| 19:39.29 | Chompers | the pool of avalible players is really low, too far into tbc |
| 19:41.19 | evl | AAAGh |
| 19:41.30 | evl | who do I have to hug around here to get a stable Auctioneer version? |
| 19:41.52 | Nandini | try #norganna |
| 19:43.07 | CIA-41 | 03stormfx * r72799 10ButtonFacade_Onyx/Skins.lua: |
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| 19:44.00 | selckin | i hate portugal |
| 19:44.14 | selckin | the amount of times we wiped because 4 ppl from portugal dc is insane |
| 19:44.21 | evl | :( |
| 19:44.25 | evl | My second homeland is portugal |
| 19:44.28 | evl | força! |
| 19:44.38 | evl | except I live in norway with flawless connection and 20ms :P |
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| 19:47.02 | JJSheets | is off for lunch. |
| 19:47.04 | Toadkiller | JJSheets: mmm so do i need to make a button proxy for buttonfacade to work? |
| 19:47.10 | Toadkiller | crap |
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| 19:49.55 | FtH|Daemona | antiarc -> threat-2.0 -> black list -> M'uru fight "Dark Fiend" |
| 19:50.13 | Antiarc | can you snag a GUID for me? |
| 19:50.19 | Antiarc | I need it to extract the NPC ID from |
| 19:50.24 | FtH|Daemona | sec, corpsing |
| 19:51.35 | FtH|Daemona | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=25744 |
| 19:52.38 | stew_a | lol, i've died so much in TK tonight the raid leader ordered me soulstoned for solarian |
| 19:52.50 | VonhintenHOME` | what are you? |
| 19:52.54 | stew_a | mage |
| 19:53.00 | VonhintenHOME` | l2iceblock |
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| 19:53.29 | CIA-41 | ButtonFacade_Gears: |
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| 19:54.00 | Pkekyo| | ~dict conscript |
| 19:54.04 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Everything of importance has been said before by somebody who did not discover it. |
| 19:54.23 | Pkekyo| | ~dict 2 conscript |
| 19:54.44 | Pkekyo| | ~dict compulsorily |
| 19:54.54 | Pkekyo| | ooh |
| 19:55.43 | NeoTron | I wonder if I should add a blacklist for magictargets too |
| 19:57.16 | NeoTron | although probably not needed |
| 19:57.40 | CIA-41 | 03profalbert 07libs * r72801 10FuBar_DBMFu/: |
| 19:57.40 | CIA-41 | FuBar_DGMFu: |
| 19:57.40 | CIA-41 | - libs-dir |
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| 19:59.20 | kagaro | anyone know how using a mana pot shows up in the combat events? |
| 19:59.32 | kagaro | or a healthstone for that matter |
| 20:00.00 | Elsia | must be one of the _ENERGIZE events, let me check |
| 20:00.18 | selckin | its a spell |
| 20:00.21 | selckin | Restore Mana |
| 20:00.26 | selckin | or Mana Restore |
| 20:00.36 | *** join/#wowace RaydenU (n=bozartmp@bozarth1.rit.edu) |
| 20:00.40 | Elsia | 5/4 22:27:12.000 SPELL_ENERGIZE,0x000000000038EE08,"Bluebottle",0x514,0x000000000038EE08,"Bluebottle",0x514,32848,"Mana Restore",0x1,300,0 |
| 20:01.49 | Elsia | no that can't be mana pots |
| 20:01.53 | Elsia | just 300 mana? |
| 20:02.04 | nevcairiel | thats the meta proc |
| 20:02.08 | nevcairiel | mana restore |
| 20:02.27 | selckin | idd |
| 20:02.34 | selckin | mana pots is Restore Mana then |
| 20:02.54 | Elsia | ah yes: 5/4 22:33:30.859 SPELL_ENERGIZE,0x00000000003CAB47,"Zardone",0x514,0x00000000003CAB47,"Zardone",0x514,28499,"Restore Mana",0x1,2915,0 |
| 20:03.02 | Elsia | that makes sense, 2915 is more like it |
| 20:04.37 | selckin | there is a SPELL_CAST before that too |
| 20:04.40 | selckin | if you don't care about amount |
| 20:05.38 | kagaro | hrmm the goa decode the flasg |
| 20:06.28 | selckin | lol 3 guilds /afk in sunwell because portugal people keep d/c'ing like scary |
| 20:06.33 | selckin | general chat is imba |
| 20:07.20 | kagaro | guess it doesnt mark the source as TYPE_OBJECT but as the payer itself |
| 20:07.43 | kagaro | wonder if all mana pots are 'Restore Mana' spell |
| 20:07.52 | selckin | they are afaik |
| 20:08.11 | CIA-41 | 03profalbert 07libs * r72802 10FuBar_DBMFu/: |
| 20:08.11 | CIA-41 | FuBar_DBMFu: |
| 20:08.11 | CIA-41 | - added externals |
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| 20:12.52 | NimbleRabit | irc://irc.tvtorrents.com:6667/tvtorrents |
| 20:15.51 | dantor | what does table.insert() do? |
| 20:16.04 | vhaarr | ~pil |
| 20:16.05 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 20:16.32 | Vulcanus | inserts your value into a table. The first parameter is a table, the second is the value |
| 20:16.40 | dantor | thank you |
| 20:16.41 | Vulcanus | itll only work with numerically indexed tables |
| 20:18.51 | MentalPower | an optional third specifies the exact location to insert |
| 20:19.01 | MentalPower | but yeah, PiL or the lua manual |
| 20:19.06 | MentalPower | ~luamanual |
| 20:19.06 | purl | Please read http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ for the answer to your questions |
| 20:19.27 | CIA-41 | 03funkydude * r72803 10StatBlocks_Bartender/ (5 files in 2 dirs): StatBlocks_Bartender: Initial commit, left click to toggle bar lock, right click to toggle config. |
| 20:19.29 | Fisker- | i hate supremus |
| 20:19.39 | Fisker- | every freaking time |
| 20:19.41 | *** join/#wowace Dashkal (n=chatzill@209.90.184.174) |
| 20:19.42 | Fisker- | a volcano spawns in me |
| 20:19.45 | Fisker- | i get 2 hits |
| 20:19.45 | selckin | your melee? |
| 20:19.48 | Fisker- | i holy shock myself |
| 20:19.59 | Fisker- | another volcano spawns in me and i die before the global cooldown from holy shock is up |
| 20:20.06 | selckin | lol |
| 20:20.28 | Fisker- | it's happened twice on 3 tries already |
| 20:20.35 | Fisker- | it consumes me |
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| 20:20.52 | selckin | never ever stop moving and should be fine really :< |
| 20:21.00 | Fisker- | i'm a healer |
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| 20:21.09 | selckin | so |
| 20:21.13 | selckin | kiting phase |
| 20:21.15 | Nandini | you're a "pally healer" |
| 20:21.16 | Fisker- | and for example when our maintank has 10% hp left and is standing on top of volcanos i usually have to stop up |
| 20:21.25 | Fisker- | ah yeah Nandini should've said pally healer |
| 20:21.31 | Fisker- | everyone else can heal while running :< |
| 20:21.39 | Fisker- | but anyways tank was low so i healed him, and got pwned by it |
| 20:21.56 | NeoTron | Fisker-: shamans can't either |
| 20:21.57 | NivFreak | shaman can heal while running? |
| 20:21.58 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:22.02 | NeoTron | if you don't count earthshield.. |
| 20:22.10 | Fisker- | you do |
| 20:22.28 | vhaarr | NS+HW |
| 20:22.31 | selckin | make friends with another paladin |
| 20:22.33 | NivFreak | We're starting BT wednesday |
| 20:22.33 | selckin | and hug |
| 20:22.47 | Fisker- | anyways we don't really have any resto shammies |
| 20:22.52 | VonhintenHOME` | vial of the sunwell + divine favor+holy shock in a macro |
| 20:22.53 | NivFreak | it's the first time in a long time I've known very little about trash/bosses |
| 20:22.57 | NivFreak | when going into a new raid |
| 20:23.04 | VonhintenHOME` | insta 5-6k heal |
| 20:23.39 | Fisker- | yeah VonhintenHOME` i just don't usually remember my sunwell trinket |
| 20:23.39 | Fisker- | but it's a nice trinket actually |
| 20:23.39 | Fisker- | because it has no GCD |
| 20:24.00 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 20:24.02 | Fisker- | atleast i can just sit back and enjoy the kill |
| 20:24.03 | Fisker- | Chompers |
| 20:24.04 | Chompers | help me |
| 20:24.06 | Fisker- | i'm having sex to your butt |
| 20:24.07 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, it and divine favor can both be popped right before holy shock |
| 20:24.18 | Chompers | no dps allowed on archi, people die to fire |
| 20:24.28 | Chompers | it makes me a very sad panda |
| 20:24.54 | selckin | at least they don't drop out of the sky |
| 20:25.01 | Chompers | oh |
| 20:25.07 | Chompers | that was the last wipe |
| 20:25.13 | selckin | i think our healers just learned to compensate for ppl hitting fire |
| 20:25.23 | NivFreak | on arch? |
| 20:25.27 | selckin | yea |
| 20:25.30 | Chompers | yeah |
| 20:25.33 | NivFreak | so they aren't instagib? |
| 20:25.41 | selckin | i do like 80% raid healing on that as a paladin on mt |
| 20:25.45 | selckin | :o |
| 20:25.47 | NivFreak | haha |
| 20:26.20 | selckin | most of the time not even in range of tank anyway, running from fires like a good boy |
| 20:26.24 | selckin | you using the 4 group setup? |
| 20:27.09 | NivFreak | are naj/supremous as easy as the first 3 hyjal bosses? |
| 20:27.19 | VonhintenHOME` | naj is |
| 20:27.21 | selckin | definitly |
| 20:27.30 | selckin | supremus is a joke |
| 20:27.31 | NivFreak | and akama? |
| 20:27.34 | selckin | so is akama |
| 20:27.41 | Chompers | naj is hard |
| 20:27.42 | NivFreak | so 3 more loot pinatas |
| 20:27.43 | Chompers | at least for me |
| 20:27.43 | NivFreak | nice |
| 20:27.48 | selckin | naj is hard on healers and need some HP |
| 20:27.54 | VonhintenHOME` | my guild stepped into BT first time last week, downed Naj on 2nd attempt... failed on Supremus |
| 20:27.56 | NivFreak | sure, 10k buffed for everyone, right? |
| 20:28.09 | Chompers | mage with 8.1k |
| 20:28.15 | selckin | VonhintenHOME`: how? |
| 20:28.25 | VonhintenHOME` | how did we fail? |
| 20:28.27 | NivFreak | Chompers: buffed? =x |
| 20:28.35 | selckin | yeah |
| 20:28.41 | selckin | pritty hard to fail on supremus imo |
| 20:28.42 | VonhintenHOME` | bad strategy probably |
| 20:28.48 | Fisker- | yeah Chompers |
| 20:28.52 | VonhintenHOME` | bad kiting, people dying to volcanos |
| 20:28.53 | Fisker- | get people to l2heal doomfire |
| 20:29.01 | Fisker- | of course you should also avoid it |
| 20:29.08 | Fisker- | but basically you can have half your healers doing raid healing |
| 20:29.14 | selckin | Chompers: everyone has new pvp trinket with 2 min cd? |
| 20:29.25 | Chompers | hahahhahahahaaha |
| 20:29.26 | Chompers | no. |
| 20:29.30 | selckin | lol. |
| 20:29.34 | selckin | get it. |
| 20:29.35 | NivFreak | yea, we can't get some of our people to get trinkets... |
| 20:29.41 | NivFreak | pisses me off |
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| 20:30.00 | Chompers | i can't get them to get the 5min one |
| 20:30.03 | VonhintenHOME` | what fight needs 2min trinket? |
| 20:30.04 | Chompers | let alone the 2min one |
| 20:30.07 | selckin | gkick |
| 20:30.11 | selckin | don't invite to raid |
| 20:30.41 | NivFreak | that works for some guilds |
| 20:30.45 | NivFreak | I have to pick my battles |
| 20:30.57 | selckin | its lke 2h in av |
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| 20:30.58 | selckin | :( |
| 20:30.59 | NivFreak | I'm usually busy churning out folks for other reasons |
| 20:31.05 | NivFreak | like showing up on time |
| 20:31.10 | CIA-41 | 03feu * r72804 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-frFR.lua: |
| 20:31.10 | CIA-41 | FuBar_ReagentFu: |
| 20:31.10 | CIA-41 | - Fixed "Wild Berries" translation for frFR client |
| 20:31.29 | VonhintenHOME` | Niv, you guys barely putting together 25? |
| 20:31.43 | NivFreak | I've never failed to have a raid |
| 20:31.55 | NivFreak | but we only try to keep ~28 raiders on tap |
| 20:31.55 | Chompers | that happens alot to us |
| 20:32.01 | VonhintenHOME` | We used to have problems getting people to show up on time, but we were always short handed |
| 20:32.02 | Chompers | went a week without any raid recently |
| 20:32.06 | NivFreak | so if we're down 3 or more, we're filling |
| 20:32.10 | harldephin | Automaton's group module should probably have an option to not accept invites that would be accepted when i'm afk/dnd. |
| 20:32.19 | VonhintenHOME` | When we started being overbooked, suddenly people were showing up to get their spot |
| 20:32.35 | harldephin | ok, my sentence's messed up |
| 20:32.44 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: yea, seeing a bit of that now with people out |
| 20:32.50 | NivFreak | basically, if people are late once |
| 20:32.52 | Chompers | "uh oh, the new people might get my spot, i better turn up" |
| 20:32.54 | NivFreak | they get a warning |
| 20:32.56 | Chompers | fear works wonders |
| 20:33.01 | NivFreak | 2nd time they lose the ability to get loot |
| 20:33.04 | NivFreak | 3rd time I gkick |
| 20:33.34 | VonhintenHOME` | we use a guild rank system. If you're a raider, you get a certain rank, if you fail to show up too much, you get dropped in rank |
| 20:33.35 | harldephin | what i mean is, Automaton's group module should probably have an option to not accept (ignore) invites when i'm afk/dnd, that would be accepted otherwise. |
| 20:33.45 | VonhintenHOME` | so when we're overbooked, those with lower ranks don't get to come |
| 20:33.48 | VonhintenHOME` | gotta earn your spot |
| 20:33.52 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: yea, I used 'raider' vs 'benchwarmer' |
| 20:34.09 | NivFreak | I've found that once you push someone down |
| 20:34.14 | NivFreak | they rarely come back up |
| 20:34.27 | VonhintenHOME` | that's because they're unpredictable :) |
| 20:34.30 | NivFreak | yep |
| 20:35.58 | selckin | if they wanna raid and progress there is no excuse for not getting the trinket |
| 20:36.07 | selckin | can understand if it takes a whie, but they should take an effort |
| 20:36.18 | selckin | just go premade in weekend even, is so easy to get |
| 20:36.31 | VonhintenHOME` | What fights require that? |
| 20:36.45 | selckin | archimonde? |
| 20:36.48 | VonhintenHOME` | that it? |
| 20:36.54 | selckin | yea |
| 20:36.57 | VonhintenHOME` | k |
| 20:37.04 | VonhintenHOME` | need to get people working on that |
| 20:37.48 | selckin | depends on what style of guild you are, punishing is usualy not the right caurse of action :) |
| 20:37.51 | selckin | but effective sometimes |
| 20:38.02 | NivFreak | I just have to pick my battles |
| 20:38.06 | NivFreak | this guild is fairly new still |
| 20:38.13 | NivFreak | I started it on feb 1st |
| 20:38.26 | NivFreak | and we're 6/6 SSC 3/4 TK 3/5 Hyjal |
| 20:38.50 | selckin | pritty good |
| 20:38.51 | VonhintenHOME` | I know what you mean.. we're not new, but we have the same problems... casual guild, some players aren't performance oriented at all |
| 20:38.59 | NivFreak | not bad for 2 nights of raiding a week |
| 20:39.01 | NivFreak | 3 hours per night |
| 20:39.08 | VonhintenHOME` | we're pretty much the same, only 2/5 hyjal, 1 in BT |
| 20:39.20 | VonhintenHOME` | We just added a 3rd night |
| 20:39.21 | NivFreak | We're what I refer to as casualcore |
| 20:39.32 | NivFreak | We're very serious about our raids, but only do 6 hours of raids per week |
| 20:41.45 | Fisker- | my ass hurts Chompers |
| 20:41.50 | VonhintenHOME` | I can honestly say, I have not been anxious for a movie like I am right now for Indiana Jones |
| 20:42.14 | NivFreak | haha |
| 20:42.17 | NivFreak | so |
| 20:42.31 | NivFreak | is there a single fight in BT/Hyjal where you need 2 prot spec warriors? |
| 20:42.42 | NivFreak | so far, hydross is the only TBC fight I've found that requires it |
| 20:42.52 | VonhintenHOME` | don't need warriors for hydross |
| 20:42.54 | Fisker- | ? |
| 20:42.56 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 20:42.59 | NivFreak | well |
| 20:43.02 | VonhintenHOME` | can be prot pally, or feral druid |
| 20:43.04 | NivFreak | it makes it much easier ;P |
| 20:43.13 | NivFreak | prot pallys aren't ideal for hydross |
| 20:43.15 | NivFreak | nor are druids |
| 20:43.20 | Nandini | i'm writing a forum post about idol/totem/libram swapping and the melee attack timer, would any druids, shamans, or paladins care to review it? http://ace.pastey.net/87290 |
| 20:43.23 | Fisker- | they're fucking awesome |
| 20:43.26 | NivFreak | druids because of resist gear, paladins because of their threat mechanic |
| 20:43.28 | Fisker- | they can take all elementals at once for aoe |
| 20:43.29 | durcyn | you need an offtank or two for supremus and bloodboil, but druids work better for bost |
| 20:43.37 | NivFreak | Fisker-: yes... that's not a hydross tanki |
| 20:43.39 | durcyn | illidan flame tanks can be pretty much anything |
| 20:43.40 | Bruners | our new applicant just got full tier 6 in 2 raids :P |
| 20:43.53 | NivFreak | well, here's my issue |
| 20:43.56 | Fisker- | part of the fight |
| 20:43.56 | Fisker- | also |
| 20:43.57 | NivFreak | We're running 5 tanks |
| 20:44.02 | durcyn | ...five? |
| 20:44.03 | Fisker- | our nature tank was a druid |
| 20:44.03 | NivFreak | 2 prot warrior, 2 feral druid, 1 prot pally |
| 20:44.11 | NivFreak | We couldn't find a prot pally for a long time |
| 20:44.14 | NivFreak | so we were making due |
| 20:44.23 | NivFreak | so now I'm thinking of having the other prot warrior go fury |
| 20:44.27 | NivFreak | unless we need him as prot |
| 20:44.28 | VonhintenHOME` | so, you've got 3 true tanks |
| 20:44.35 | NivFreak | true tanks? :P |
| 20:44.38 | Fisker- | i remember when our guild wanted to go do morogrim right after lurker |
| 20:44.41 | Fisker- | and we had no prot pally |
| 20:44.51 | NivFreak | we killed tidewalker plenty without one |
| 20:44.55 | Nandini | i've nature tanked hydross on my druid as well, it's not as hard to do now since we can remain uncrittable easily through resilience |
| 20:44.57 | NivFreak | just had our holy pally RF tank |
| 20:45.04 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, meaning, they're the liability.. ferals can switch to dps easy |
| 20:45.09 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: yes |
| 20:45.16 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: so I'm thinking of reducing that by one |
| 20:45.28 | vithos | sigh.. why does RecountFu require FuBar :( |
| 20:45.31 | Fisker- | i don't think we've ever taken morogrim without a pala tank |
| 20:45.35 | NivFreak | normally we have our prot pally heal when he's not tanking |
| 20:45.37 | Fisker- | we were close once with me a holy tank |
| 20:45.49 | Fisker- | mana just didn't last out |
| 20:45.51 | NivFreak | Fisker-: it's much much much easier with one |
| 20:45.56 | Nandini | pop a flask of chromatic wonder and keep magic resist potion up as a druid and it's not that hard to almost max your resistance |
| 20:46.14 | NivFreak | anyway |
| 20:46.23 | Elsia | vithos: try statblocks_recount |
| 20:46.34 | NivFreak | I had some people in here warn me against going with a single prot warrior before |
| 20:46.42 | Elsia | doesn't show DPS though just toggles the window and config |
| 20:46.55 | VonhintenHOME` | We have 2 prot pally's, 2 prot warriors, and 2 ferals that can tank... 1 prot pally has an epic mage he brings when we're too heavy |
| 20:47.17 | NivFreak | well it's not fun to skip on the prot pally in hyjal |
| 20:47.21 | NivFreak | and I've heard BT is similar |
| 20:47.37 | NivFreak | but not to that extreme (I don't know) |
| 20:47.37 | Nandini | prot pallies make trash so much easier and bearable |
| 20:47.37 | vithos | Elsia: i wanted a minimap button to use with "MBB" |
| 20:47.38 | VonhintenHOME` | I used to be a prot pally, but my rogue alt was #1 guild dps, so I switched to that as main |
| 20:48.09 | NivFreak | I can't get one of our ferals out of tank gear to do good dps |
| 20:48.10 | Elsia | vithos: ah, well then there is no helping :P |
| 20:48.11 | NivFreak | which bugs me a bit |
| 20:48.18 | NivFreak | but he saved us last night by being stubborn |
| 20:48.22 | NivFreak | on kaz |
| 20:48.47 | VonhintenHOME` | a feral that won't DPS isn't doing it right |
| 20:48.57 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:49.04 | NivFreak | one battle at a time |
| 20:49.08 | Nandini | any comments on this suggestions forumm post (applies mostly to feral druids)? http://ace.pastey.net/87290 |
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| 20:50.02 | Azurewrath | yay, Brutallus down :) |
| 20:50.06 | NivFreak | btw, do people take durability when they get doomed on Azgalor? |
| 20:50.08 | Azurewrath | i HATE that Mob.. |
| 20:50.12 | NivFreak | Azurewrath: grats |
| 20:50.45 | Polleke | NivFreak, yes. We had a shaman yesterday who got doomed 4 times. Got soulstone three times, and one time ankh. He was not ammused |
| 20:51.15 | NivFreak | ouch... |
| 20:51.19 | NivFreak | I hate mechanics like that |
| 20:51.44 | VonhintenHOME` | Nandini, what would melee swap? |
| 20:52.06 | Nandini | feral druids would swap in appropriate idols to enhance their special attacks |
| 20:52.42 | VonhintenHOME` | most ferals are attacking at like 1sec though.. not really much lost |
| 20:53.22 | Nandini | yes, but we also are able to use a special attack every second in some scenarios |
| 20:53.24 | nevcairiel | swaping the idol gives you a GCD too |
| 20:53.40 | Nandini | swapping the idol doesn't start a new GCD if you're currently in one already |
| 20:54.43 | Nandini | for example, it's possible to register for spell_cast_sent on mangle and equip idol of terror immediately after that and have it proc |
| 20:54.57 | Nandini | without an appreciable increase in the GCD |
| 20:55.05 | VonhintenHOME` | http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/05/03/electric.car.ap/index.html |
| 20:55.15 | dantor | is there an addon that displays the content of variables and tables? |
| 20:55.19 | Nandini | if it didn't reset the swing timer, it would be the poor druid's mongoose proc |
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| 20:56.33 | dylanm | dantor: You should get DevTools! |
| 20:56.43 | dantor | thank you |
| 20:57.52 | dylanm | I think there's one that allows you to look at a table in a treeview but I forget what it's called. |
| 20:58.38 | Nandini | quite a bit of dps is lost when the swing timer is reset every one to two seconds, and you lose more as your AP and crit improve |
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| 20:58.52 | dylanm | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5435-Fire.html |
| 20:58.55 | dylanm | Not sure if it still works. |
| 21:01.12 | Nandini | in fact, the more energy (from powershifting or 2pc t4 procs) a cat druid has, the more autoattacks it stands to "lose" by idol swapping |
| 21:01.46 | Nandini | so the closer you get to your theoretical max dps, the more you will be hurt by swapping |
| 21:04.01 | DarkElf | mumbles look at all those library updates, this could take a while |
| 21:04.09 | Bruners | Do Feign Death remove barrage on illidan? |
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| 21:06.12 | Kurax | ckknight ping |
| 21:06.18 | ckknight | kong |
| 21:06.19 | ckknight | pong* |
| 21:06.39 | durcyn | 'KONG' is a much better response imo |
| 21:07.02 | Nandini | i wonder if it would be possible take the swing timer into account when deciding whether or not to automatically swap idols after spell_cast_sent |
| 21:07.17 | Kurax | ckknight: A weird problem, I cant figure out why, about Chinchilla |
| 21:07.27 | Arrowmaster | weee new free NIN album out |
| 21:07.31 | ckknight | ~asktoask |
| 21:07.32 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 21:08.08 | chiper | ckknight: I think he was just leading up to the question |
| 21:08.18 | ckknight | yea, but I'm a busy man |
| 21:08.25 | chiper | heh |
| 21:08.30 | ckknight | don't like to wait on things, just like a single message |
| 21:09.03 | Kurax | I set ChinchillaDB to something, but in SV file it's just ChinchillaDB = nil after reloaded |
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| 21:09.22 | Kurax | Any verify on it or something? |
| 21:09.32 | ckknight | shouldn't be. |
| 21:09.53 | Primer | hrmm, I recently inspected someone with an SSO exalted healing trinket, and I can't find it in armory |
| 21:10.07 | Primer | anyone know what it's called? It's an alchemy crafted trinket |
| 21:10.41 | Diao | redeemer's alchemist stone |
| 21:10.41 | NivFreak | Redeemer's Alchemist Stone |
| 21:10.45 | Primer | thanks |
| 21:11.01 | Kurax | This SV just wont change to whatever I set by script, but through the config window it works fine |
| 21:11.09 | Kurax | so weird |
| 21:11.19 | Primer | strange that armory doesn't show that under "find an upgrade" |
| 21:11.23 | luxus | ~cartographer3 |
| 21:11.23 | purl | somebody said cartographer3 was the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 21:11.26 | Primer | I guess since it's alch |
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| 21:13.05 | chiper | acts like google maps? with what, the minimap textures? |
| 21:13.15 | Primer | watch the video |
| 21:13.19 | Primer | I'm watching it now |
| 21:13.21 | Primer | it's amazing |
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| 21:15.58 | Primer | well, it's "nifty" |
| 21:16.09 | Primer | retracts "amazing" |
| 21:17.22 | NeoTron | it looks nice but in the state it was at when I looked at it, I didn't really see the point of it :P |
| 21:17.39 | NeoTron | except "looks nifty" |
| 21:18.39 | chiper | huh, pretty spiffy |
| 21:19.54 | odt | is it powered by ajax |
| 21:20.00 | chiper | needs more graphical cleanup of the texture files, and I think the minimap should only draw if you toggle a "satellite" view, but otherwise that's pretty impressive |
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| 21:20.28 | charon | NivFreak: don't think so |
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| 21:21.01 | charon | NivFreak: oh, sorry, i had the window scrolled up a fair bit :-\ |
| 21:21.13 | chdst | Cart 3 pretty much behaves exactly how I'd always wanted the map to behave. As long as it can do all of that and have good module support, I will have personally found map mecca. |
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| 21:21.56 | ckknight | chdst: I'm trying, I just have so much irl stuff :-( |
| 21:22.04 | ckknight | chdst: I'll see if I can work on it tonight |
| 21:22.13 | JJSheets | Okay, is it just me or is dev.wowace.com not resolving to an IP address? |
| 21:22.15 | Chompers | death laser taking time huh |
| 21:22.16 | chdst | ckknight: No pressure! :D |
| 21:23.05 | ckknight | chiper: yea, I plan to have the minimap switch be a toggle |
| 21:23.10 | selckin | anyone know how gauntlet past felmyst works? |
| 21:23.13 | chiper | :) |
| 21:24.02 | vithos | selckin: there's static pulls, and timed spawns that keep coming until you pull the last pack of the gauntlet |
| 21:25.11 | selckin | ah, wtb more mages |
| 21:25.16 | selckin | i hate gauntlets :( |
| 21:25.52 | vithos | yeah, the more mages the easier it is |
| 21:26.19 | selckin | we have 2 atm |
| 21:26.27 | selckin | wiped kinda rediculous fast without knowing anything :) |
| 21:26.54 | vithos | i've only seen it once, and i didn't pay a whole lot of attention... but i remember there's imps that blow up for 6k (you just let someone collide with them alone) |
| 21:27.04 | vithos | assassins which are stealthed |
| 21:27.14 | vithos | commanders which you seperate from the rest of their pulls |
| 21:27.23 | Fix[EJ] | assassins are actually invisible |
| 21:27.26 | Fix[EJ] | so detect invis works! |
| 21:27.34 | *** join/#wowace Chaud (n=chaudhar@75-136-135-060.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) |
| 21:27.37 | Fix[EJ] | (secret strats oh no) |
| 21:28.28 | DarkElf | question - i have a addon installed thats blocking trades from others, is there a code in the addon i can search for to figure out which addon is causing this? |
| 21:29.15 | selckin | thanks for the info |
| 21:29.18 | VonhintenHOME` | Do you use CT Mod? |
| 21:29.31 | VonhintenHOME` | DarkElf |
| 21:29.39 | DarkElf | nope |
| 21:30.03 | TopicFascist | DarkElf: I have the same problem :/ |
| 21:30.07 | VonhintenHOME` | The option to block trades is in your interface options |
| 21:30.16 | TopicFascist | It keeps getting reset |
| 21:30.17 | TopicFascist | on login |
| 21:30.22 | TopicFascist | It's a stupid addon |
| 21:30.26 | VonhintenHOME` | CTMod occassionally gets buggy and leaves it on, that's the only one I've seen that does it |
| 21:30.35 | TopicFascist | one of these days I'll do a binary search on that foolish thing |
| 21:30.41 | TopicFascist | but, havn't gotten bored enough yet |
| 21:31.07 | VonhintenHOME` | Should be easy to find... I just don't know what you'd look for... lemme see if I can find it |
| 21:31.24 | DarkElf | hmm i will have to check that out, i had ctmod but uninstalled it 3 weeks ago, maybe it did mess that up i dunno |
| 21:31.26 | NeoTron | wtb soem good quality healers so we can progress more in SWP again |
| 21:31.27 | Pkekyo| | decorative knives should be alot sharper... |
| 21:31.37 | Pkekyo| | specially at the end point/tip |
| 21:32.03 | TopicFascist | ah |
| 21:32.10 | TopicFascist | It seems to be postal |
| 21:32.12 | TopicFascist | DarkElf: |
| 21:32.15 | NeoTron | we've essentially lost half of our healers in a few weeks due to various reasons |
| 21:32.16 | TopicFascist | do you have postal? |
| 21:32.23 | DarkElf | i have postal |
| 21:32.25 | elite3vil | Postal is win. |
| 21:32.26 | TopicFascist | or CT_MailMod |
| 21:32.28 | TopicFascist | ./Postal/Modules/TradeBlock.lua: SetCVar("BlockTrades", 0) |
| 21:32.32 | TopicFascist | what tha hell |
| 21:32.33 | TopicFascist | does postal |
| 21:32.34 | TopicFascist | have to do |
| 21:32.37 | TopicFascist | with blocking trades |
| 21:32.46 | elite3vil | It blocks trades when you have your mailbox open |
| 21:32.46 | vithos | because trades will close the mailbox |
| 21:32.51 | TopicFascist | oh |
| 21:32.52 | elite3vil | so people don't close your mailbox |
| 21:32.54 | TopicFascist | so maybe its not that |
| 21:32.57 | TopicFascist | or maybe it doesn't unset it |
| 21:32.59 | TopicFascist | omgbug? |
| 21:33.13 | vithos | i use postal and haven't run into that problem |
| 21:33.20 | elite3vil | vithos: Same here. |
| 21:33.25 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, that's what ct_mailmod does... it gets buggy |
| 21:33.25 | TopicFascist | I have CT_MailMod as well for some reason.. |
| 21:33.27 | VonhintenHOME` | leaves it on |
| 21:33.27 | TopicFascist | perhaps they conflict |
| 21:33.30 | TopicFascist | ah |
| 21:33.37 | TopicFascist | rm's that isntead |
| 21:33.44 | elite3vil | Yeah. |
| 21:33.55 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't use postal, and ct_mailmod has done it to me before |
| 21:34.16 | DarkElf | well i wouldnt think mail addons would block trades in the open areas so i will look at the interface when these downloads get done |
| 21:36.05 | [SW]Dodge | someone here who can tell me how to use AceHook3? would like to hook one of the Combatlog functions (CombatLog_AddEvent) |
| 21:36.27 | Chompers | now the tanks getting airburst |
| 21:36.31 | Chompers | fail boss |
| 21:37.10 | JJSheets | Nobody else is having problems reaching dev.wowace.com? |
| 21:37.12 | genetik | Chompers: http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t13964-archimonde/p55/#1368 |
| 21:37.12 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116) |
| 21:37.34 | genetik | (that's me who posted that) |
| 21:37.56 | genetik | i got airbursted a couple weeks ago not by someone else, but actually targetted on me |
| 21:38.18 | [SW]Dodge | Chompers: failing on archi? i know that ~150 trys and best was 38% Oo |
| 21:38.53 | TopicFascist | 150 tries..? |
| 21:38.57 | [SW]Dodge | yea -.- |
| 21:39.06 | TopicFascist | sounds like someones just trying to accumulate attempt dkp! |
| 21:39.12 | NeoTron | nothing like failing to kill a boss you've farmed for 5 months |
| 21:39.21 | NeoTron | for the duration of the raid (last attempt kill, 4 hrs later) |
| 21:39.30 | NeoTron | and not talking about archimonde either |
| 21:39.43 | Polleke | bloodboil? |
| 21:40.45 | genetik | heh.. we spent an hour and a half on teron on friday.. people failing left and right with their constructs |
| 21:41.10 | p3lim | : MySQL server has gone away, blablabla |
| 21:43.23 | JJSheets | wants to murder something. |
| 21:44.44 | Primer | where did it go? |
| 21:44.53 | Primer | oh, it went to sun.com |
| 21:45.02 | Primer | where it'll be promptly KILLED |
| 21:45.08 | [SW]Dodge | looking for advice how to use AceHook :( cant find docs or an addon where it is used) |
| 21:46.57 | Chompers | interesting thread genetik |
| 21:46.58 | VonhintenHOME` | mssql is where its at |
| 21:47.15 | *** join/#wowace Shirik (i=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 21:47.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:47.47 | JJSheets | amazing... I had to put the svn.wowace.com and dev.wowace.com ip addresses in my hosts file. for some fucking reason my DNS does not want to resolve them... |
| 21:47.55 | *** join/#wowace Lywellyn (n=lywell@oh-76-1-48-205.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 21:48.00 | VonhintenHOME` | use opendns? |
| 21:49.04 | elite3vil | Is the price of thick clefthoof insane on anyone elses server? |
| 21:49.10 | JJSheets | okay I'll bite... gonna try that now... |
| 21:49.29 | sylvanaar | my dns doesn't either |
| 21:49.50 | VonhintenHOME` | comcast.net's dns resolves no problem |
| 21:50.36 | JJSheets | I'm on comcast. it's buggered for me. |
| 21:50.56 | VonhintenHOME` | hm |
| 21:51.10 | JJSheets | and apparently so is opendns. |
| 21:51.23 | JJSheets | back to hosts file until this crap is resolved. |
| 21:51.27 | VonhintenHOME` | wierd |
| 21:51.30 | Lywellyn | what 'crap'? |
| 21:51.30 | *** join/#wowace Firedancer (n=chatzill@cpe-74-79-154-69.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 21:51.32 | Shirik | Sounds like the crap is with your computer |
| 21:51.36 | *** join/#wowace SNiLD (i=snild@nurmijarvi.net) |
| 21:51.40 | harl|WoW | why does my Omen not.. work? it seems to work for other people so that they see me because i have Omen, but my own one's not showing anything at all. what am i missing there.. |
| 21:51.47 | Shirik | can I have the IP for opendns? |
| 21:51.48 | JJSheets | happens on both my Windows and linux box. |
| 21:51.54 | JJSheets | it's not my computer. |
| 21:52.07 | JJSheets | opendns = 208.67.222.222 |
| 21:52.20 | JJSheets | or 208.67.220.220 |
| 21:52.40 | elite3vil | harl|WoW: did you try /omen toggle |
| 21:52.41 | elite3vil | ? |
| 21:53.07 | Lywellyn | so wowace is down. and the PTR was taken down. Boy, my WoW night is going well. >< |
| 21:53.20 | sylvanaar | Age of Conan is down also |
| 21:53.26 | JJSheets | oh wowace is fine. the dns pointing to it isn't. |
| 21:53.27 | harl|WoW | elite3vil: that's not my point. the add-on is there and i can configure it and whatnot. but it's not showing anyone's threat. |
| 21:53.46 | Shirik | well in any case JJSheets, it's obviously not your DNS's fault |
| 21:53.47 | JJSheets | dns apparently is taking a big bumsecks assault at the moment. |
| 21:53.56 | [SW]Dodge | come on, no one who can give me a short guide how to secure hook with acehook3? :( |
| 21:54.12 | JJSheets | Shirik, yes it is. it's somebody's dns server's fault, likely one of the top level ones. |
| 21:54.23 | sylvanaar | thats what it looks like |
| 21:54.27 | Lywellyn | Okay then, what's WoWace's IP so I can go to it? |
| 21:54.29 | Shirik | reread what I said, then stop being an ass, k JJSheets? |
| 21:54.44 | JJSheets | Clarify yourself Shirik. |
| 21:55.13 | Shirik | I said it is not YOUR dns's fault. It's not. So get over it. |
| 21:55.22 | JJSheets | lol |
| 21:55.29 | CIA-41 | 03xuerian * r72805 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0/SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed: Loot 1.0: Moved _AUTO group patterns higher to avoid miss-matches. |
| 21:55.38 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-128-114.citizip.com) |
| 21:55.47 | Shirik | "lol" |
| 21:55.50 | Shirik | You know, I love people like you |
| 21:55.59 | JJSheets | I love you too, Shirik. |
| 21:56.05 | DarkElf | hmm block trades was checked in interface controls, thanks for the help! |
| 21:56.06 | Shirik | people that love to complain about everything until the world explodes but refuse to take anything in stride |
| 21:56.13 | JJSheets | hahahaha |
| 21:56.15 | Shirik | And refuse to help out to fix it |
| 21:56.19 | JJSheets | that's fucking hilarious. |
| 21:56.37 | JJSheets | how am I going to fix a DNS server that I have no business configuring? |
| 21:56.40 | sylvanaar | gets popcorn |
| 21:56.49 | JJSheets | Or are you just trolling me? |
| 21:56.53 | Tinyboom | ./popcorn ^^ |
| 21:57.00 | Lywellyn | ~popcorn |
| 21:57.00 | purl | Mmmm, I like E-drama! |
| 21:57.03 | JJSheets | lol |
| 21:57.05 | Lywellyn | xD! |
| 21:57.09 | Xuerian | steals some popcorn. |
| 21:57.17 | TopicFascist | ohmang |
| 21:57.21 | TopicFascist | I could really go for some popcorn |
| 21:57.23 | TopicFascist | right about now |
| 21:57.29 | Tinyboom | ~stab Xuerian |
| 21:57.30 | purl | ACTION runs at Xuerian with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 21:57.33 | JJSheets | hands TopicFascist some popcorn. |
| 21:57.34 | VonhintenHOME` | ./pee_cornflakes |
| 21:57.34 | Lywellyn | ~popcorn TopicFascist |
| 21:57.34 | Tinyboom | that's my popcorn |
| 21:57.45 | Xuerian | Agh! What'd I ever do to yo--- Oh. |
| 21:57.48 | Xuerian | bleeds all over the popcorn. |
| 21:57.49 | Shirik | JJSheets, maybe you could just... I dunno.... tell someone calmly? Instead of "14(1711:5111:2314) 14(1115JJSheets14) back to hosts file until this crap is resolved." |
| 21:57.53 | Shirik | But yeah... /ignore is easier |
| 21:58.10 | sylvanaar | i crashed my helicopter again, so now I am waiting for spare parts |
| 21:58.16 | Shirik | again?! |
| 21:58.19 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 21:58.24 | sylvanaar | does that suck or what? |
| 21:58.30 | Shirik | Oh btw I found out the name of that flight module |
| 21:58.34 | Shirik | it's called the "piccolo" |
| 21:58.35 | Xuerian | Is this a real helicopter, or that buzzing sound in your head >.> |
| 21:58.42 | Shirik | I can't really look it up right now unfortunately |
| 21:58.43 | sylvanaar | its an RC heli |
| 21:58.53 | Xuerian | I was rooting for the latter :( |
| 21:59.07 | Shirik | RC helicopters are a pita to control though |
| 21:59.15 | Shirik | until you get the hang of it |
| 21:59.15 | sylvanaar | you arent kidding |
| 21:59.46 | JJSheets | Shirik, [16:22:13] <JJSheets> Okay, is it just me or is dev.wowace.com not resolving to an IP address? |
| 21:59.49 | sylvanaar | i managed to get it inverted for a bit, but crashed it trying to turn it back over |
| 22:00.03 | JJSheets | I was calm. and my outburst was not directed at anyone in this channel. |
| 22:00.13 | Shirik | well that's not bad, that's more than I can do |
| 22:00.13 | JJSheets | now I'm off to play WoW. ya'll have fun. |
| 22:00.25 | sylvanaar | i bought a simulator to practice |
| 22:00.53 | selckin | vithos: what do the soulbinders do? ;o |
| 22:00.54 | Shirik | I stick to doing the interface; someone else handles the flight controls |
| 22:00.55 | Shirik | but um |
| 22:01.05 | Shirik | aren't there other helicopters you can crash? :P |
| 22:01.13 | Shirik | cheap ones/ones that are harder to break? |
| 22:01.18 | sylvanaar | no |
| 22:01.29 | sylvanaar | well, those are no fun to fly |
| 22:01.41 | Shirik | at least you wouldn't keep shelling out money :P |
| 22:01.44 | sylvanaar | the ones with counterrotating blades |
| 22:02.01 | Shirik | and just think |
| 22:02.16 | sylvanaar | yeah, i have 2 copters which are grounded for maintenance atm |
| 22:02.17 | Shirik | if you're having this much trouble flying it, how much trouble do you think your autopilot is going to have :D |
| 22:02.21 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 22:02.37 | *** join/#wowace Fix[EJ] (i=fixtothe@cpe-76-95-160-65.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 22:02.42 | sylvanaar | well, just add gyros(tm) |
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| 22:02.57 | Lywellyn | So 2.4.2 is likely to be pushed in the morning. Yay. New teleports fer meh. |
| 22:03.25 | Shirik | why a gyro? |
| 22:03.25 | nevcairiel | are the teleports confirmed? I missed the news :/ |
| 22:03.46 | sylvanaar | thats what helis use for stabilization usually |
| 22:04.14 | Shirik | oh I'm thinking of a different gyro |
| 22:04.20 | sylvanaar | what the food? |
| 22:04.23 | Lywellyn | nevcairiel: Yeah, they were added to the patch notes in one of the updates. |
| 22:04.24 | Shirik | lol no |
| 22:04.32 | selckin | vithos: nevermind :D |
| 22:04.33 | Lywellyn | But i never got to test them, as my character never got copied before they took the PTR down. |
| 22:04.38 | Shirik | gyros can also be used to determine angular velocity |
| 22:04.49 | Shirik | thus they can be used as a compass |
| 22:05.01 | Peoii | Question really is... why Thereamore? :/ |
| 22:05.11 | Peoii | Kinda a lack luster place to have another teleport hub |
| 22:05.15 | Shirik | We used one on our robot for navigation |
| 22:05.16 | VonhintenHOME` | proudmore |
| 22:05.17 | sylvanaar | well, that how the gyro for the tail rotor works i believe |
| 22:05.23 | Xuerian | New teleports? >.> |
| 22:05.23 | durcyn | the theory is that theramore will be the jumping-off point for the alliance boat to northrend |
| 22:05.25 | Chompers | 4 hours on archi, time to call it a night |
| 22:05.30 | nevcairiel | mmmm gyros, damn you, i am getting hungry now |
| 22:05.36 | Peoii | aye |
| 22:05.47 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: |
| 22:05.47 | nevcairiel | - New Teleport/Portal: Theramore and Teleport/Portal:Stonard spells are |
| 22:05.47 | nevcairiel | available at portal trainers in their respective locations. You must |
| 22:05.47 | nevcairiel | be level 35 to learn these new spells. |
| 22:05.48 | Peoii | durcyn: See, that seems most logical I guess. |
| 22:05.54 | Xuerian | (Hehehe) |
| 22:05.57 | kadrahil | man |
| 22:05.58 | CIA-41 | tektest: 03Tekkub 07master * r5eb5d2d 10/: Test |
| 22:06.00 | kadrahil | i need to like |
| 22:06.01 | sylvanaar | if you hold the heli in your hand and spin up the rotors, as you twist the heli, the tail rotor speeds up to push against you |
| 22:06.07 | kadrahil | get a new computer or something. |
| 22:06.08 | Shirik | ~feed nevcairiel |
| 22:06.09 | purl | ACTION offers nevcairiel some toe-jam |
| 22:06.17 | kadrahil | anyone play wow on a macbook pro released before 2006 |
| 22:06.19 | Peoii | But that'll be what?... 10 locations I can go to immediately? bah :P |
| 22:06.36 | kadrahil | um i mean november 2006 |
| 22:06.46 | durcyn | Peoii: you only really need shattrath though |
| 22:07.33 | Xuerian | Mages are OP. |
| 22:08.42 | chiper | ponders where the portal trainers will be |
| 22:09.12 | vithos | what's the name of the cooldown monitor that is a single bar, and the icons of the cooldowns move along the bar and accelerate towards the end? |
| 22:09.47 | vithos | selckin: sorry, don't remember |
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| 22:10.38 | Peoii | durcyn: IF, SW, Darn, Exodar, Shatt, Theramore, Toshley, Gadgetzan, Black Temple, and Silithus (yes, for some odd reason, that's still where I have my hearth) |
| 22:10.50 | Xelopheris | vithos, that's part of FortWarlock |
| 22:10.53 | Xelopheris | ForteWarlock, rather |
| 22:11.11 | Xuerian | Peoii: Don't forget Gadget, Winterspring, Area51 if you're a engineer :P |
| 22:11.27 | Peoii | Xuerian: did ;) they're listed ;) |
| 22:11.31 | Xuerian | =O |
| 22:11.39 | Xuerian | Area51 is so not on the list >_> |
| 22:11.50 | nevcairiel | he probably is gnome and not goblin |
| 22:11.54 | Xuerian | LIES |
| 22:11.56 | nevcairiel | you get toshley and not a51 then |
| 22:11.57 | Xuerian | THERE IS ONLY BOOM |
| 22:12.05 | durcyn | Peoii: ironforge, stormwind, darnassus and exodar are all redundant though |
| 22:12.16 | Peoii | yar |
| 22:12.21 | nevcairiel | yeah shattrath is all you need |
| 22:12.51 | Peoii | Well, BT is really nice from the illidan neck. Blades edge I use almost every 4 hours it seems... |
| 22:13.35 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt know what i want in BEM |
| 22:13.48 | Peoii | Primal Fire. |
| 22:14.01 | Peoii | well that's where I farm atleast. |
| 22:14.01 | Xuerian | Faster to get in Shadowmoon, isn't it? |
| 22:14.49 | dantor | why can't loadstring functions be called with arguments? |
| 22:14.49 | Peoii | Might, on our server BEM is pretty dead. So I farm in BEM, and used to mine up there on my main a lot too |
| 22:14.55 | Peoii | but mining went the way of the dodo when I saw the glorious JC neck from sunwell. |
| 22:15.03 | Xuerian | I'd only touch the floating khorium vein in BEM, too akward to farm without a epic flier otherwise >_> |
| 22:15.05 | xyu` | is www.wowace.com down? |
| 22:15.32 | *** join/#wowace Iboong-Kenzo (n=user@77.87.207.194) |
| 22:15.38 | Xuerian | xyu`: That topic is under penality of livid argument right now =O |
| 22:15.39 | durcyn | hosting moved recently, check your dns |
| 22:15.46 | xyu` | oh ok |
| 22:16.16 | durcyn | livid? |
| 22:16.36 | Xuerian | Hush, you |
| 22:16.46 | Diao | wow |
| 22:16.49 | Xuerian | Don't calm my drama |
| 22:16.52 | Diao | we just got rocked by triple ap pom pyro mage at 1900 |
| 22:16.57 | Xuerian | I need to use this bloody popcorn. >_> |
| 22:16.57 | Diao | that's a pretty gay setup |
| 22:17.07 | Diao | i need a counter :( |
| 22:17.15 | Xuerian | Diao: Grounding totem ftw |
| 22:17.20 | Diao | no shaman unfortuntaely |
| 22:17.27 | Xuerian | Was nice knowing you then >_> |
| 22:17.45 | Diao | yeah our healer got 1 shot |
| 22:19.09 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@60-241-56-168.tpgi.com.au) |
| 22:20.46 | vithos | Xelopheris: hmm.. thanks. hopefully it works for non-warlocks too |
| 22:21.23 | Mandolin | obviosuly |
| 22:21.25 | Mandolin | the best counter |
| 22:21.33 | Mandolin | is three warriors with spell reflect |
| 22:21.36 | Xuerian | XD |
| 22:21.58 | Xuerian | plays a western standoff tune. |
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| 22:22.40 | Diao | spellreflect doesn't work when you have no rage :( |
| 22:23.38 | Xuerian | Enrage, obviously. |
| 22:23.52 | Xuerian | That's why it's a standoff. They AP, warriors enrage, standoff ensues |
| 22:23.58 | Xuerian | First person to loose their temporary buff dies! |
| 22:24.55 | Diao | lol |
| 22:25.03 | Diao | bloodrage only gives 10, needs 25 to reflect :( |
| 22:25.19 | Diao | i guess if you're good enough at pillar humping |
| 22:25.26 | Diao | you could pillar hump til their ap is down |
| 22:26.41 | Xuerian | No no see it'd work. If you were nelf warriors or pillar humped, you could come at them from all sides. They wouldn't know where the healer was! By the time they realized it, it'd be too late, and the warriors would have the rage :P. |
| 22:26.55 | Xuerian | desperately defends his tGtBtU scene >_< |
| 22:27.24 | Diao | lol |
| 22:27.42 | Diao | i think shaman would be a good idea |
| 22:27.55 | Diao | except we're running double melee with a druid healer since we don't have a resto shaman that's geared :( |
| 22:28.05 | Xuerian | Enhance shaman are people too :( |
| 22:28.35 | Diao | war/rogue, we lock people down :p |
| 22:28.40 | Diao | enh sham probably would work |
| 22:28.47 | Diao | but we don't have any of those either |
| 22:28.53 | elite3vil | Xuerian: so are prot pallies, but that doesn't mean they let us in arena =P |
| 22:28.56 | Xuerian | Nah, too controllable. :P |
| 22:29.02 | Xuerian | elite3vil: I know T_T |
| 22:30.03 | elite3vil | amazing what you can accomplish with 4k arena points, 1900 rating, and 386 badges of justice when you're bored and reading forums. |
| 22:30.11 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 22:30.12 | Xuerian | ... |
| 22:30.40 | Xuerian | [80+] [Enter the Real Life]? |
| 22:30.44 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 22:31.08 | Xuerian | Probably has a higher rating req though. Bastards. Seriously though, what :p |
| 22:31.21 | elite3vil | spent 160 badges on a ring and pants, and bought the vengeful dps caster mace |
| 22:32.08 | Xuerian | So what half-baked idea on the forums prompted this? |
| 22:32.29 | elite3vil | some pally-tank forum somewhere |
| 22:32.46 | Xuerian | Did it work? o.0 |
| 22:32.53 | elite3vil | *shrug* |
| 22:32.59 | elite3vil | haven't really had a raid to test it out on yet |
| 22:33.13 | elite3vil | and I don't think they'll let me try Kalecgos =P |
| 22:33.18 | Xuerian | Haha. |
| 22:33.27 | elite3vil | (which is all that's left alive) |
| 22:34.26 | elite3vil | I really hate that fight. |
| 22:34.33 | Xuerian | No love for the off specs :( |
| 22:34.50 | elite3vil | Eh? They let me go ret last week for him. =D |
| 22:34.53 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: images on the wowace forums are not loading for me :( |
| 22:34.59 | Viper_0000 | 400 badges? |
| 22:35.02 | Viper_0000 | farm kara moar |
| 22:35.18 | Xuerian | Stanzilla: dns update server move blah blah flush cache etc |
| 22:35.33 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 22:35.34 | elite3vil | Viper: I keep spending them on random stuff, don't want them to take up a third bag slot |
| 22:36.01 | Xuerian | WTB [150 Badges] for 'leet druid dps staff :( |
| 22:36.06 | elite3vil | heh. |
| 22:36.11 | nevcairiel | I got the staff yesterday |
| 22:36.21 | elite3vil | WTB Alchemy Lab so I can get some +10 str gems |
| 22:36.33 | nevcairiel | will probably be quite some time until i actually use the staff <.< |
| 22:36.42 | Xuerian | Aren't specced feral are you >_> |
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| 22:36.52 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 22:37.01 | Xuerian | Well, at least you're a druid |
| 22:37.13 | Xuerian | I've had multple mages flash me terrestine's the ssc staff and the lashing staff >_< |
| 22:37.20 | elite3vil | haha. My mage has a Wildfury Greatstaff in his bags from when we were running SSC |
| 22:37.26 | Xuerian | YOU |
| 22:37.34 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 22:37.35 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 22:37.49 | nevcairiel | wildfure dropped so much for us |
| 22:37.53 | elite3vil | We had seven drop in one night.. they stopped asking if anyone needed them and started throwing them randomly in peoples bags. |
| 22:37.56 | nevcairiel | i think all druids have it, and even dissed some |
| 22:38.12 | Xuerian | curls up and whimpers in a corner. |
| 22:38.33 | elite3vil | I think all 4 of our mages that were there that night got one.. lol. |
| 22:38.37 | nevcairiel | Also, i have that hyjal staff, but i am still not sure what to make of it |
| 22:38.39 | nevcairiel | its just weird |
| 22:38.44 | nevcairiel | its not dps .. its not tanking.. |
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| 22:39.08 | Xuerian | It's decoration |
| 22:39.23 | nevcairiel | yeah it looks good |
| 22:39.28 | Xuerian | Too bad they renamed the Primal Mancatcher :( |
| 22:39.31 | elite3vil | nev: We haven't seen one of those yet. We've been killing him since BT came out... and our druid wants one |
| 22:39.40 | Aiiane | one of our holy pallies got our first jin'rokh |
| 22:39.47 | elite3vil | I've got one of those sitting in my bank |
| 22:39.54 | elite3vil | I was holy at the time |
| 22:40.10 | elite3vil | (My spec changes 3 - 5 times a week.. =\)] |
| 22:40.13 | Xuerian | <Smack> 50 dmg. <Smack> 50 dmg. (You can hear the pally screaming battlecries over vent) |
| 22:40.17 | Aiiane | we figured it was a fitting reward for killing him as the last person up while bubbled with a crit judgement of righteousness |
| 22:40.33 | Xuerian | o.0; |
| 22:40.42 | elite3vil | lol... we've all seen kills like that =P |
| 22:41.03 | elite3vil | shaman pop and earthshock kill Supremus... after he somehow killed us all >.> |
| 22:41.11 | nevcairiel | somehow :D |
| 22:41.30 | elite3vil | (Enrage timer because our dps are idiots and were standing in volcanoes) |
| 22:41.45 | Xuerian | Fiah gud? |
| 22:41.51 | nevcairiel | dps are always idiots |
| 22:41.53 | elite3vil | ^ |
| 22:42.28 | elite3vil | at least when I'm dpsing, I'm an idiot with Divine Shield.. lol |
| 22:43.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:43.07 | elite3vil | unless forbearance is up 'cause of wings... |
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| 22:43.51 | elite3vil | (yay for council and flamestrike/envenom/consecrate combos) |
| 22:44.53 | NeoTron | yay for council with an alt druid healer with 7.8k health! |
| 22:45.14 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 22:46.09 | elite3vil | <insert 4 hours worth of bitching about how much I hate Kalecgos, just so I don't have to do it later tonight> |
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| 22:47.22 | Viper_0000 | anyways to manage webdkp through a fubar extention |
| 22:47.38 | Viper_0000 | cause the minimap button doesnt integrate well with skinner so i cant make it look sexy |
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| 22:57.46 | `Zypher | hrm wondering if anyone else is having issues connecting to wowace.com? |
| 22:57.54 | Toadkiller | its down |
| 22:58.41 | nevcairiel | slap Kaelten a bit until it works again, then |
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| 23:05.59 | Antiarc | http://gpl.internetconnection.net/vi/? |
| 23:07.35 | pastamancer | Antiarc: chatter taints my raid window! |
| 23:07.40 | Antiarc | oh? |
| 23:08.16 | pastamancer | couldn't promote someone to MT a couple of days ago and wow offered to disable chatter for me |
| 23:11.56 | durcyn | ~wowalert |
| 23:11.56 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 23:12.27 | CIA-41 | 03Chingerayl * r72806 10DailyQuestTracker/DailyTracker.lua: |
| 23:12.27 | CIA-41 | DailyQuestTracker: |
| 23:12.27 | CIA-41 | - Fixed bug where a (noncritical) error would occur upon loading. |
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| 23:13.45 | Apoco | andorlawl is down |
| 23:13.46 | Apoco | :( |
| 23:14.30 | NeoTron | my guild has gotten one Skull of Gul'dan drop in 5 months |
| 23:14.37 | NeoTron | the person that won it just quit raiding |
| 23:15.25 | Arrowmaster | weve gotten 3 skulls and 2 mainhands in 5 kills |
| 23:15.47 | Viper0000 | wtb your drop rates |
| 23:16.14 | Peoii | Arrowmaster: you've been added to the list of people I wish to kill. |
| 23:16.18 | NeoTron | last night after hell I called the bow (no hunters in raid, and all hunters have it anyway) and the healing cloak |
| 23:16.22 | NeoTron | and I was sadly correct |
| 23:16.37 | Peoii | We've gotten 1 skull... 0 bows, 0 shields... 1 mace (this last week) |
| 23:16.47 | Peoii | and triple conq more times than I care to count. |
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| 23:20.37 | NeoTron | let's just face it |
| 23:20.43 | NeoTron | the random loot mechanism is completely flawed |
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| 23:20.55 | NeoTron | and they need to add PvE points/tokens to makei t more deterministic |
| 23:21.12 | Peoii | haha |
| 23:21.13 | NeoTron | less of this farm a boss for 6 months without getting a sigle X drop vs farming for 1 month and getting 8 |
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| 23:21.41 | NeoTron | and I'd be glad to get points on kills, not tries, even |
| 23:21.44 | NeoTron | imagine that! |
| 23:21.51 | VonhintenHOME` | people would get bored too easily if they got all their loot fast |
| 23:21.57 | NeoTron | doesn't mean you get it fast |
| 23:22.04 | NeoTron | just means you'll get it |
| 23:22.11 | Viper0000 | ya you just gotta grind |
| 23:22.12 | Viper0000 | dude |
| 23:22.14 | Viper0000 | ive done ZA |
| 23:22.17 | NeoTron | rather than disenchanting the same damn bow for the 3th time in a row |
| 23:22.18 | Viper0000 | countless times |
| 23:22.26 | Viper0000 | and ive never seen a hex shrunked head in my life |
| 23:22.31 | Viper0000 | and i try to do it every 4days... |
| 23:22.34 | NeoTron | and then when you bring a new hunter you'll never see it again |
| 23:23.04 | Peoii | Viper0000: I've been running it since day 1 of PTR when it went live, and we've seen a grand total of 3. Fortunately I won the first one on live server... friend of mine JUST got his 4 days ago. |
| 23:23.25 | Viper0000 | and the thing is |
| 23:23.30 | VonhintenHOME` | We have a shadow priest that's never gotten his kara neck... countless times trying |
| 23:23.31 | Viper0000 | im scared shitless when i DO finally see it |
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| 23:23.36 | Viper0000 | someone else might win it |
| 23:23.40 | Peoii | haha |
| 23:23.54 | NeoTron | I've seen it three times |
| 23:23.58 | NeoTron | on my first three live runs |
| 23:24.03 | NeoTron | I lost the /roll.. 3 times. |
| 23:24.07 | Peoii | We've had Teron on farm since about the first 2-3 weeks BT went live, and have never seen the tanking gun off him |
| 23:24.08 | NeoTron | never seen it since |
| 23:24.13 | Peoii | lots of cases like that. |
| 23:24.28 | NeoTron | it's just flawed, that's all |
| 23:24.43 | Viper0000 | ...it's just not random |
| 23:25.08 | Viper0000 | and like weird ass pally gear shouldnt drop if there arent any shamans in the group, lol |
| 23:25.17 | Viper0000 | pallies* |
| 23:25.54 | Viper0000 | but i cant wait when im done athena style power leveling my drood |
| 23:26.08 | Peoii | We used to run an SSC/TK pug on our server, specifically to farm those instances for rare drops... we got our 2nd vestments of the sea witch that way actually |
| 23:26.09 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:26.12 | Viper0000 | and go in my first karas/za/gruul/mag/ssc/tk |
| 23:26.19 | Viper0000 | and roll on ALL the loot |
| 23:26.42 | Peoii | Viper0000: What spec? |
| 23:27.10 | Viper0000 | my druid is lvl 15 |
| 23:27.11 | Viper0000 | lol |
| 23:27.16 | Viper0000 | it'll be 70 shortly |
| 23:27.20 | Viper0000 | my main is a mage |
| 23:27.29 | Peoii | hehe |
| 23:27.30 | NeoTron | if they made random drops adhere to the group at least somewhat (don't drop a bow no one can use or that everyone has that can use it) |
| 23:27.38 | Viper0000 | so i QQ alot, im obligated, im a mage |
| 23:27.51 | Peoii | lol |
| 23:28.04 | Peoii | I only QQ when our warlocks decide to drop COE... bastards. |
| 23:28.26 | Peoii | But then again, I'm a firm believer in renaming that spell to Curse of Mages. |
| 23:28.38 | Viper0000 | i laugh at em when they seed and draintank my sheeps |
| 23:28.45 | Viper0000 | or fear dot solo it... |
| 23:30.01 | NeoTron | warlock ... dot? |
| 23:30.03 | NeoTron | wtf? |
| 23:30.09 | NeoTron | warlocks don't dot! |
| 23:30.17 | Viper0000 | true |
| 23:30.22 | Viper0000 | they span 8k shadowbolts |
| 23:30.26 | Viper0000 | spam* |
| 23:30.38 | profalber1 | sad but true |
| 23:31.03 | NeoTron | many not by choice mind you |
| 23:31.20 | Peoii | oh man... speaking of.... |
| 23:31.21 | NeoTron | I know at least 1 lock in my guild who would love to be competetive as affliction |
| 23:31.32 | NeoTron | past t4-5 content.. |
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| 23:31.55 | Peoii | haha, NeoTron, I totally have a thread that was posted by one of our apps on our guild forums you must read :P |
| 23:32.09 | Peoii | Or atleast forward onto that warlock ;) |
| 23:32.11 | Peoii | http://www.synthguild.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=674 |
| 23:32.29 | Peoii | The title is simply: The Utility Affliction Lock, an Analysis |
| 23:32.48 | odinriko | Sorry if this is a bad place to ask, but is it possible to use an autobar button in a macro? |
| 23:32.51 | Peoii | basically it was the apps way of trying to justify his raid spot... we found it funny, but there's some interesting math in there. |
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| 23:51.26 | NeoTron | Peoii: ironically, perhaps, come SWP we now do have said lock go affliction... for utility |
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| 23:52.49 | VonhintenHOME` | is all addon traffic transmitted as text? |
| 23:53.18 | JoshBorke | VonhintenHOME`: yes |
| 23:53.19 | NeoTron | man if I had t6 geared locks doing 1450 DPS I'd just cry and kick them from the raid :P |
| 23:53.37 | VonhintenHOME` | Is there an addon out there that keeps a log of all addon traffic? |
| 23:54.17 | VonhintenHOME` | or can filter and log certain channels or messages |
| 23:54.48 | NeoTron | with more "real" values I think we see a rdps loss of about 200 when having 4 locks / 2 SP with 1 lock going affliction |
| 23:55.19 | NeoTron | and that's counting locks at "only" 2000 dps when we've had locks do over 2300 dps |
| 23:56.04 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.08 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:56.31 | CIA-41 | 03aliset * r72809 10XRS/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:56.31 | CIA-41 | XRS: |
| 23:56.31 | CIA-41 | - Emacs mode strings help emacs people edit without doing bad things to your code! |
| 23:56.38 | CIA-41 | 03aliset * r72810 10XRS/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:56.38 | CIA-41 | XRS: |
| 23:56.38 | CIA-41 | - Add a "Health Below" bar type that allows you to show the number of people below X amount of health. |
| 23:56.39 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.41 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.41 | Xuerian | ITS A TRAP |
| 23:56.43 | CIA-41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.46 | CIA-41 | 03aliset * r72811 10XRS/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:56.47 | CIA-41 | XRS: |
| 23:56.49 | CIA-41 | - "Mana Below" - same as health below. Not always as useful, but symmetry is the happiest tree of all. |
| 23:56.51 | NeoTron | basically aff lock => utility for sure but it's not a gain / equal dps |
| 23:56.56 | NeoTron | it's a loss of rdps |
| 23:57.40 | vhaarr | guess the argument list should be changed from (...) to (f,e,...) |
| 23:57.55 | Peoii | NeoTron: yea, not at all |
| 23:57.59 | Peoii | hence the reason we kinda laughed. |
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| 23:58.16 | NeoTron | the post was in essence correct |
| 23:58.25 | NeoTron | except for grossly understating the DPS of given characters |
| 23:58.35 | Peoii | yea |
| 23:59.05 | Peoii | If a mage came into my channel only doing 1500 dps, I'd pretty much look at them, tell them to stop over scorching, and slap the hell outta em... :/ |
| 23:59.20 | Peoii | Either that, or I'd tell em to stop being cheap. |
| 23:59.24 | Peoii | one or the other. |
| 23:59.28 | NeoTron | ironically in t5 gear I don't think any of our lcoks really put out 1300 dps on a consistent basis |
| 23:59.35 | NeoTron | but that also shows that in t5 gear aff locks are fine |
| 23:59.42 | Peoii | aye |
| 23:59.57 | NeoTron | which again is not a surprise |
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