IRC log for #wowace on 20080430

`00:00.15`	`Lywellyn`	`Dashkal's right, I wish to do it from a highlight. I already have the highlight set up.`
`00:00.24`	`Lywellyn`	`The highlight probably everyone has: Their own name. lol`
`00:00.52`	`Dashkal`	`CZ does it automatically (and copies the lines to the server tab) so I've never had to think about your problem :p`
`00:01.14`	`Dashkal`	`I'm almost certain there's an answer to your problem, but sadly it's been years since I've used mIRC`
`00:01.15`	`Lywellyn`	`lol nice`
`00:01.36`	`Lywellyn`	`I know there is, there used to be a way people matched the CIA lines to a new window, before they made a new channel for it.`
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`00:04.05`	`JJSheets`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:04.58`	`ckknight`	`if anyone can provide some feedback on this idea, it'd be helpful: http://curseforge.com/announcements/forks-and-clones-and-multiple-repositories/`
`00:05.12`	`JJSheets`	`was trying to track down a bug, but was writing the file to a different location than his Addons folder, thus never getting any of the fixes...`
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`00:06.58`	`Zyndrome`	`ckknight is plotting to develop SkyNet`
`00:06.59`	`Zyndrome`	`:3`
`00:07.15`	`Xinhuan`	`o_O i hate UML diagrams`
`00:09.18`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
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`00:09.34`	`JJSheets`	`where'd I hear that from?`
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`00:16.58`	`CIA-40`	`03ackis * r72147 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua:`
`00:16.58`	`CIA-40`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`00:16.58`	`CIA-40`	`- Updated alchemy discovery information to be a bit more precise and clear`
`00:19.26`	`Viper_0000`	`looks like im going back to poopy necb`
`00:19.32`	`Viper_0000`	`sorrentimers,classtimers seem to be to buggy`
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`00:20.45`	`NivFreak`	`NECB doesn't track much of what I care about after 2.4`
`00:20.46`	`NivFreak`	`not sure why`
`00:21.15`	`Viper_0000`	`i dont like it either`
`00:21.24`	`NivFreak`	`I loved it pre-2.4`
`00:21.30`	`Viper_0000`	`it stills work for me`
`00:21.33`	`Viper_0000`	`the alpha version`
`00:21.41`	`NivFreak`	`it still works, but I don't have trash timers`
`00:21.47`	`NivFreak`	`which was 80% of it`
`00:21.48`	`NivFreak`	`for me`
`00:21.55`	`Viper_0000`	`true`
`00:22.02`	`Viper_0000`	`what do you use now for trash tiemrs then`
`00:22.03`	`Viper_0000`	`if anythign`
`00:22.09`	`NivFreak`	`nothing now`
`00:22.15`	`NivFreak`	`=/`
`00:22.17`	`NivFreak`	`stop watch`
`00:22.18`	`NivFreak`	`hehe`
`00:22.19`	`Viper_0000`	`pwnt`
`00:22.50`	`NivFreak`	`I'm really disappointed that it's not working post-2.4`
`00:22.59`	`NivFreak`	`I forgot who took over it`
`00:23.04`	`NivFreak`	`someone in here ;)`
`00:24.00`	`NivFreak`	`it also doesn't give me a victory rush bar anymore!`
`00:35.19`	`durcyn`	`necb did trash timers, wtf?`
`00:35.41`	`Nandini`	`i use incubator for trash respawn times`
`00:40.08`	`Zyndrome`	`did just one change to ClassTimer.lua to make it work fine :S`
`00:40.28`	`stew_a`	`is there anything in the WoW ToS or anything against purchasing guilds for gold?`
`00:41.25`	`JJSheets`	`Such a transaction would be inherently difficult to enforce.`
`00:42.01`	`stew_a`	`agreed, but is it against the rules?`
`00:42.27`	`QuantumDelta`	`Yea iirc there is`
`00:42.40`	`QuantumDelta`	`not gonna pull a quote outta my ass without reading it`
`00:43.03`	`QuantumDelta`	`but I remember it being mentioned that all items in the game etc are blizzards and aren't to be sold or purchased or some shit`
`00:43.16`	`JJSheets`	`Even if there isn't a rule against it, you shouldn't complain to Blizzard when you get scammed. :p`
`00:43.49`	`stew_a`	`yes but the gold is as well quantumdelta`
`00:44.04`	`QuantumDelta`	`.....`
`00:44.05`	`starlon`	`that's for real currency`
`00:44.20`	`QuantumDelta`	`Like I said`
`00:44.30`	`QuantumDelta`	`I'm not going to pull a quote out my ass :P`
`00:44.37`	`QuantumDelta`	`I would assume if they went so far to mention items`
`00:44.45`	`QuantumDelta`	`they would have mentioned gold and crap too`
`00:44.52`	`QuantumDelta`	`or even consider gold an item`
`00:44.52`	`QuantumDelta`	`zz`
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`00:45.06`	`QuantumDelta`	`even better`
`00:45.09`	`QuantumDelta`	`why don't you go read`
`00:45.10`	`QuantumDelta`	`the ToS?`
`00:46.42`	`Antiarc`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systems&oldid=209063556 - look at the last column of the "Features" table.`
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`00:47.57`	`durcyn`	`ho damn`
`00:48.07`	`JJSheets`	`That ReiserFS is one psycho...`
`00:48.18`	`Viper_0000`	`Zyndrome, what'd you do to fix allinone feature on classtimer ?`
`00:50.03`	`Zyndrome`	`don't use that, but I got spammed with SetFont() bugging out`
`00:50.25`	`JJSheets`	`lol Antiarc, that just got fixed as I was looking at it. :p`
`00:50.56`	`JJSheets`	`or maybe the link you sent was to the old version?`
`00:51.28`	`JJSheets`	`yes, now I look at your link, I think so. funny as hell though...`
`00:52.32`	`Antiarc`	`I laughed out loud when I saw that`
`00:52.40`	`Antiarc`	`I don't laugh out loud at much on the internet these days.`
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`00:53.05`	`JJSheets`	`made me google Reiser murder wife. I didn't know anything about his little escapade. :p`
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`01:00.19`	`JJSheets`	`And that wikipedia article was an interesting read...`
`01:00.35`	`JJSheets`	`The one on Reiser himself, not filesystems. :p`
`01:01.08`	`smoke_`	`anyone here know anything about increasing wow fps if im running SLI? (because for some reason when i enable SLI with 2 video cards its decreasing my performance with just 1 card in w/o SLI)`
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`01:02.02`	`starlon`	`SLI and WoW don't get along`
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`01:07.47`	`durcyn`	`^^ crashes. disable SLI =(`
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`01:11.09`	`CIA-40`	`03jjsheets * r72148 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (FlashEngine.lua IB_Bar.lua IB_Button.lua MacroSupport.lua): InfiniBar-2.0 - Optimized Macro parsing engine. Reconstructed Highlighting system.`
`01:19.01`	`Nechckn`	`durcyn sorry just saw that you said something... it sort of looks like it, yeah`
`01:19.59`	`Nechckn`	`it's not all items... but like those port bottles you have to collect in Hinterlands and either the un'goro soil or the plant pods in Un'goro produce that error`
`01:20.12`	`Nechckn`	`as do the books noted by that person in their ticket`
`01:20.12`	`Tasky`	`does anyone have any tips on reading the unit flags in combat_log_event`
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`01:22.02`	`durcyn`	`nil cast text on Opening, Nechckn`
`01:22.04`	`durcyn`	`?`
`01:23.19`	`Nechckn`	`yeah, in line 190`
`01:23.45`	`Nechckn`	`as text is not defined elsewhere, changing it seemed like the thing to do`
`01:24.00`	`Nechckn`	`was it something you just missed by chance?`
`01:24.14`	`Nechckn`	`I've not had a chance to jump in-game as of yet`
`01:24.26`	`durcyn`	`i only changed it for targetname enabled`
`01:24.35`	`durcyn`	`will take a look after raid`
`01:26.13`	`Nandini`	`i wish i could use XLoot, for some reason, i can never see a rollbar when i have it enabled`
`01:26.59`	`Xelopheris`	`What addon is it that does /in part of? Or is it defaultui now?`
`01:27.30`	`CIA-40`	`03jjsheets * r72149 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua:`
`01:27.30`	`CIA-40`	`ButtonFacade:`
`01:27.30`	`CIA-40`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:27.54`	`JJSheets`	`and with that, I'm off to relax me brain.`
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`01:45.37`	`CIA-40`	`03durcyn * r72150 10Quartz/Player/Player.lua: Quartz: use the correct variable name in ifcheck when appending target`
`01:48.53`	`Sekkyo`	`Is there any way to configure ClosetGnome to not be retarded with Multiphase Spectrographic Goggles and a Mount set?`
`01:53.41`	`durcyn`	`don't include a helm in your mount set.`
`01:59.08`	`Sekkyo`	`durcyn: I don't :( all fields are red except the bottom trinket`
`01:59.55`	`durcyn`	`oh, you've got it set to restore a particular set on dismount then?`
`02:04.52`	`Nechckn`	`durcyn here's the 2 files, the second should work- the issue is at 190/191 Hope this works- will check back in a bit.`
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`02:08.24`	`durcyn`	`Nechckn: nah, found it. the ifcheck was pointed at the wrong var >_>`
`02:09.29`	`Nechckn`	`ah... okey dokey`
`02:09.43`	`Nechckn`	`where does that text come from though in 191?`
`02:10.07`	`durcyn`	`nowhere.`
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`02:11.24`	`Nechckn`	`are you going to pop the changed file into the svn?`
`02:12.13`	`durcyn`	`it's committed`
`02:12.17`	`durcyn`	`72150`
`02:12.28`	`durcyn`	`not sure what file you're talking about`
`02:13.27`	`Nechckn`	`just whatever change you had to make is all`
`02:13.36`	`Nechckn`	`or if I had to hand jam it =)`
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`02:18.12`	`thul`	`I'm bitter. I need wow, I just got home from work`
`02:18.15`	`thul`	`BITTER`
`02:19.46`	`Nechckn`	`durcyn Cool- see where you changed it via the updater/fisheye. The change was just a bit laggy in being posted. Thank you!`
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`02:25.58`	`Nefarion`	`Are the keys in RAID_CLASS_COLORS locale independent?`
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`02:27.48`	`ckknight`	`yes, Nefarion`
`02:27.59`	`Nefarion`	`cool, thanks`
`02:29.40`	`Xelopheris`	`<3 getting shit pushed in by brut!`
`02:29.52`	`elite3vil`	`h8 Kalecgos.`
`02:30.04`	`Xelopheris`	`kalecgos is ezmode if you have 25 people who love black balls`
`02:31.07`	`elite3vil`	`heh.`
`02:31.23`	`elite3vil`	`It's hardmode when 5 people are complete retards`
`02:31.56`	`elite3vil`	`durr, I'm a mage... and I'm going to die when Iceblock's not on cooldown because I missed my portal and the arcane debuff is too high`
`02:32.30`	`Ellipsis`	`all you had to say was "I'm a mage and I'm going to die"`
`02:34.27`	`Zhinjio`	`hugs Ellipsis`
`02:34.49`	`Ellipsis`	`licks Zhinjio`
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`02:37.56`	`Crazyshots`	`Any idea why we would have a tank not be able to show up on omen, added to MT list(grid), or anything like that? It has been like this for weeks`
`02:38.26`	`ulic`	`maybe he doesn't have threat-2.0 installed? or has an old version?`
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`02:39.42`	`stew_a`	`lua>a=string.gmatch("string","non(.*)matching pattern");print(a())`
`02:39.43`	`lua_bot`	`stew_a: No output`
`02:40.08`	`stew_a`	`what does no output mean, nil?`
`02:40.21`	`ulic`	`just print(a)`
`02:40.53`	`stew_a`	`a is a function`
`02:41.12`	`ulic`	`it looks like is value that gmatch returns`
`02:41.35`	`ulic`	`that wasn't complete english :)`
`02:42.01`	`ulic`	`lua> a = string.gmatch("string","non(.*)matching pattern"); print(a)`
`02:42.01`	`lua_bot`	`ulic: function: 0x631030`
`02:42.14`	`ulic`	`oh so it is, shows what I know about gmatch`
`02:42.59`	`stew_a`	`so what does no output mean, lol`
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`02:45.20`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72151 10IHML/locales/locale-zhTW.lua:`
`02:45.20`	`CIA-40`	`IHML:`
`02:45.20`	`CIA-40`	`- Update zhTW localization.`
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`02:52.07`	`ulic`	`maybe like nil?`
`02:52.24`	`ulic`	`not sure, I assume you're expecting it to return no matches.`
`02:53.29`	`stew_a`	`yeah, but something around a gmatch is causing my code to infinite loop, and theres already a nil check in place`
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`02:54.05`	`vhaarr`	`Crazyshots: what's his name?`
`02:54.15`	`sedai\|`	`what mode should i obtain that might show my days/hours/etc played totals?`
`02:54.20`	`sedai\|`	`mod*`
`02:54.29`	`vhaarr`	`sedai\|: try my LifePercent mod :P`
`02:56.37`	`sedai\|`	`hmm`
`03:01.40`	`Zhinjio`	`Will SetFont work on a tooltip? THe default font is huge`
`03:01.56`	`Zhinjio`	`bah. doesn't look like it.`
`03:02.36`	`Ackis`	`how can I see what purl knows for a certain command?`
`03:03.23`	`CIA-40`	`03rabbit * r72152 10oRA2/LoadOnDemand.lua: oRA2: Make sure to trigger the player promoted event if we're officer or assistant from the get-go.`
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`03:04.33`	`durcyn`	`Ackis: literal`
`03:04.58`	`Zhinjio`	`anyone? Can I control the font used in default tooltips?`
`03:05.06`	`Zhinjio`	`er, GameTooltips`
`03:05.11`	`Thelyna`	`what's the script command to see which frame your mouse is over? got an invisible frame in middle of my screen that's screwing with mouselook`
`03:06.30`	`starlon`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:06.44`	`Zhinjio`	`yes`
`03:06.57`	`Zhinjio`	`or if you ahve ace, /print GetMouseFocus():GetName()`
`03:07.02`	`Ackis`	`so 1 shot kalec, 2shot brut (tank got hit for 30k in 1.5 seconds lol), and 1 shot felmyst... wheeee`
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`03:07.22`	`Zhinjio`	`awesome Ackis`
`03:07.34`	`Crazyshots`	`Damn`
`03:07.44`	`Chaud`	`Ackis plz come carry noto`
`03:07.51`	`Crazyshots`	`We had like 5 people not show up so we have some screwed up healing/dps for brut :(`
`03:07.55`	`Ackis`	`lol`
`03:07.59`	`Ackis`	`apparently NA disbanded`
`03:08.01`	`Fix[EJ]`	`we 1 shot through twins...now we're trying the reverse kill order :[`
`03:08.17`	`Ackis`	`I'm guessing you're in Elitist Jerks?`
`03:08.23`	`Chaud`	`Ackis come carry forceful entry!`
`03:08.29`	`Fix[EJ]`	`Yessir`
`03:08.36`	`Ackis`	`Chaud: they wouldn't take my pally :P`
`03:08.40`	`Chaud`	`rofl`
`03:08.41`	`Ackis`	`Fix: Team Ice here`
`03:08.42`	`smoke_`	`tell pachwa thizz says hi!!`
`03:08.48`	`Chaud`	`do they exist anymore even?`
`03:08.56`	`Ackis`	`they're exanimus`
`03:09.06`	`Fix[EJ]`	`smoke_: will do :P`
`03:09.15`	`Chaud`	`aren't most of the original people gone though?`
`03:09.22`	`Fix[EJ]`	`Ackis: ahh, how are you guys doing :o`
`03:09.37`	`Ackis`	`2 kills of twins, we're just behind you guys`
`03:10.23`	`Ackis`	`I think we're doing reverse strat tonight, not sure however`
`03:10.24`	`Chaud`	`noto doing BT tonight due to failure of people showing up for sunwell or something lulz.`
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`03:10.46`	`Zhinjio`	`Damnit, I had this code already working once. Now i have to relearn this tooltip shit`
`03:11.32`	`Ackis`	`Zhinjio: don't you hate that?`
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`03:13.39`	`Zhinjio`	`and wouldn't you know it, :AddFontStrings method is undocumneted. joy.`
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`03:13.48`	`Zhinjio`	`goes and looks at cowtip code cry`
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`03:24.08`	`Nefarion`	`Who ran the bench for AceTimer-3.0?`
`03:24.20`	`Nefarion`	`Using the 2000 OnUpdates vs the 2000 timers?`
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`03:37.12`	`Zhinjio`	`ok, whats wrong with this? http://www.pastey.net/86911`
`03:37.21`	`Zhinjio`	`The AddTexture call appears to not do anythign`
`03:37.40`	`Zhinjio`	`the texture path is valid. I use it elsewhere successfully`
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`03:42.19`	`Nefarion`	`Is it wierd that my own timer code, using pairs() and a bit of processing to dish out timers, is reducing my FPS less with 2000 timers registered than identical functions registered to 2000 separate frames' OnUpdates (throttled to the same rate)?`
`03:42.29`	`Nefarion`	`Should OnUpdate be more efficient?`
`03:43.28`	`Nefarion`	`Shouldn't *`
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`03:48.43`	`Nefarion`	`For some numbers: my timers, throttled to 10 times per second, reduce my FPS by 5 with 2000 identical timers registered (a simple "function() local s=_G end"). Identical timers in OnUpdates, throttled to 10 times per second, reduce my FPS by 15.`
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`03:53.21`	`CIA-40`	`03sano 07sano * r72153 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Healing.lua): Assessment: Got PoM and Earthshield working properly. Changed some localization string to use globalsstring.lua`
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`04:13.22`	`CIA-40`	`03kagaro 07kagaro * r72154 10BigWigs_Cinematographer/ (BigWigs_Cinematographer.toc Cinematographer.lua): BigWigs_Cinematographer: WIP still has lots of debug, but seems to start/stop recording as needed with the exception of Shade of Akama`
`04:13.45`	`elite3vil`	`Wooooooo. Wiping on Kalecgos for 3 hours is fun.`
`04:14.22`	`Keias`	`Its fun if you're improving on it :P`
`04:14.29`	`Keias`	`But not if you're wiping for dumb reasons :(`
`04:14.41`	`elite3vil`	`I wouldn't call this improvement... we killed him yesterday and the week before`
`04:15.11`	`elite3vil`	`people need to head - ass`
`04:15.53`	`elite3vil`	`"oops I missed my portal" or "oops I died with an invulnerability off cooldown" is just... kinda.. yeah.`
`04:16.34`	`Xelopheris`	`elite3vil, took us six tries in kalec tonight`
`04:16.40`	`Xelopheris`	`And we had him down on day 1`
`04:16.59`	`Xelopheris`	`fucking 8 people went LD at 20% on our first attempt`
`04:17.01`	`elite3vil`	`On a more positive note, I got to play with ZOMGBuffs, which is definitely worth the download.`
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`04:46.08`	`vithos`	`~seen toadkiller`
`04:46.10`	`purl`	`toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-161.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 3h 24m 26s ago, saying: 'Orionshock: "A Magnanimous Benefactor" Anchorite Kairthos'.`
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`04:55.38`	`Peoii`	`Tuesdays are so easy mode for us...`
`04:55.44`	`Peoii`	`Tuesday == Clear BT`
`04:55.45`	`elite3vil`	`Heh.`
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`04:55.51`	`elite3vil`	`tonight was supposed to be BT night`
`04:55.57`	`elite3vil`	`but the officers decided they wanted to do Kalecgos`
`04:56.01`	`Peoii`	`since our MT plays D&D on Tuesdays, yea... we don't do progression :P`
`04:56.12`	`Ackis`	`lol`
`04:56.15`	`Peoii`	`so we just slam thru farm content`
`04:56.19`	`Bruners`	`Peoii: do you clear BT in one day ?`
`04:56.24`	`Peoii`	`Bruners: Yup`
`04:56.30`	`Bruners`	`in how many hours?`
`04:56.39`	`elite3vil`	`We started at 8:30 EST, and just got done... wiped on Kalecgos the whole time, and gkicked a holy priest in the process.`
`04:56.41`	`Peoii`	`4.5-5 depending on how much we're failing.`
`04:56.55`	`Peoii`	`We've done it in 4.`
`04:56.58`	`Peoii`	`but yea... not the norm.`
`04:57.26`	`Bruners`	`we have only made it to mother once in 4 hours`
`04:58.46`	`Bruners`	`elite3vil: how can you gkick a priest or anyone that far in progression ? :P`
`04:59.49`	`elite3vil`	`Well, when they intentionally wipe the raid 5 times or so during actual attempts.. and then while the mages are opening portals at the end of the night, pull the boss on top of the portal.. it usually pisses some officers off.`
`05:00.46`	`elite3vil`	`and they just weren't listening on vent in general.`
`05:01.15`	`elite3vil`	`Kalecgos isn't really a fight to be messing around on.. shrug`
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`05:01.59`	`Bruners`	`was hoping to get some shots on him yesterday, but gta4 and lag problems made that impossible :(`
`05:02.19`	`elite3vil`	`heh.`
`05:02.32`	`Bruners`	`are you running with AR ?`
`05:02.46`	`elite3vil`	`AR?`
`05:02.56`	`Bruners`	`arcane resistance`
`05:03.02`	`elite3vil`	`heh, no.`
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`05:23.42`	`Ackis`	`nice twins down on a tuesday`
`05:29.19`	`Jaxon`	`Anyone else use Betterquest? Something keeps turning my default blizzard tracking frame back on.`
`05:34.18`	`elite3vil`	`What guild did you say you were in Ackis?`
`05:34.44`	`Ackis`	`Team Ice`
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`05:36.27`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3lowlee 7AllyQIDs0 SHA1-50aeae1`
`05:36.29`	`hubbub`	`Major review of Horde Dustwallow Marsh 37-38`
`05:36.31`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/50aeae161b85d4085ad38c3bf7fdc1be05c9d3b3`
`05:36.33`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7AllyQIDs0 SHA1-7aff20b`
`05:36.35`	`hubbub`	`Fix up ally chain QIDs thru lv60`
`05:36.37`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/7aff20b8649804adbd0efb46710340ecd55ae7f1`
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`05:36.41`	`hubbub`	`Merge branch 'master' into AllyQIDs`
`05:36.43`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/0252b1f958592c1847d6640ff5de1de7c7cf210c`
`05:36.45`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3lowlee 7AllyQIDs0 SHA1-bb526f6`
`05:36.47`	`hubbub`	`Minor spelling corrections`
`05:36.49`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/bb526f6274e27b0685fe893d30eb8768ba19e974`
`05:36.51`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7AllyQIDs0 SHA1-e5a1ef2`
`05:36.53`	`hubbub`	`Fix up druid bear quest`
`05:36.55`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/e5a1ef23b7a0e1edb2cf52b79085c8c1cf9bea2b`
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`05:38.30`	`Zyndrome`	`wut`
`05:48.44`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72155 10AutoBar/Locale-zhTW.lua:`
`05:48.44`	`CIA-40`	`AutoBar:`
`05:48.44`	`CIA-40`	`- Update zhTW localization.`
`05:51.46`	`Zhinjio`	`so I try detaching a tablet tooltip, and it tells me that it has no owner when I attempt to reattach it. Furthermore, it didn't "show" when I detached it.`
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`06:01.48`	`Ellipsis`	`Zhinjio: you mean from a fubar plugin?`
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`06:09.46`	`AbsoRayne`	`hrm`
`06:10.16`	`AbsoRayne`	`I kind of want to code an addon for hunters, that when you mouse over a target, you get a small popup bar that has all your traps on it, and MD and such...`
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`06:18.58`	`Bruners`	`AbsoRayne: why would you want a popup on mouseover?`
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`06:20.55`	`Bruners`	`what unitframes is this and how are they made? http://i28.tinypic.com/1zqegqg.jpg`
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`06:25.39`	`vithos`	`Antiarc: threat on nightbane isn't getting reset at landing`
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`06:41.44`	`durcyn`	`Bruners: hmm, my first guess would be oUF with some seriously customized layout`
`06:42.19`	`[Ammo]`	`it could be anything`
`06:42.30`	`Ellipsis`	`he uses pitbull`
`06:42.45`	`Ellipsis`	`but you could do it with ouf as well`
`06:42.55`	`[Ammo]`	`what tells you it is pitbull?`
`06:43.12`	`Ellipsis`	`I've seen his posts?`
`06:43.15`	`[Ammo]`	`heno`
`06:43.16`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`06:43.34`	`Ellipsis`	`nothing in the screenshot identifies the addon`
`06:43.44`	`[Ammo]`	`that's what I wondered :)`
`06:44.06`	`nevcairiel`	`addons should hook the screenshot command and show their name in some overlay when its executed :P`
`06:44.35`	`[Ammo]`	`haha that is actually pretty awesome`
`06:44.38`	`Ellipsis`	`that would be unreadable in that case`
`06:44.45`	`[Ammo]`	`naah just make 2 screenshots :)`
`06:44.46`	`Ellipsis`	`he probably has at least 3 addons on top of each other to build those UFs`
`06:45.10`	`Ellipsis`	`one for the class colored panels, one for the portraits, and one for the unit frames themselves`
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`06:45.29`	`nevcairiel`	`a UF should be able to easily do portraits *shrug`
`06:46.11`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm to add healcomm-3.0 support to my oUF layout or not`
`06:47.07`	`Ellipsis`	`well it can, but for the more advanced layout stuff like making the portrait extend outside the frame, etc.,`
`06:49.39`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm libhealcomm-3.0 sucks, it doesn't handle being LoD properly`
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`06:53.29`	`Keya`	`how do I submit a patch for CraftList2? Apparently WIM changed an event name and CraftList2 wasn't updated`
`06:55.53`	`nevcairiel`	`ask the author? :)`
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`06:58.16`	`Keya`	`< dumb this early in the morning :-) thanks I'll do so.`
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`07:10.39`	`CIA-40`	`03xiu * r72156 10Wishlist/ (Wishlist-enUS.lua Wishlist.lua Wishlist.toc):`
`07:10.39`	`CIA-40`	`Wishlist:`
`07:10.39`	`CIA-40`	`- Added set support`
`07:10.39`	`CIA-40`	`- Added note support`
`07:10.39`	`CIA-40`	`- Fixed some small bugs`
`07:13.34`	Funkeh`	`[Ammo], it's not supposed to`
`07:13.48`	Funkeh`	`it's supposed to be like threat`
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`07:19.42`	`CIA-40`	`03funkydude * r72157 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: added to blacklist`
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`07:21.15`	`vithos`	`Antiarc: i (bm hunter) pulled aggro off a warrior tank on malchezaar at about 116% from max range`
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`07:27.38`	Funkeh`	`vithos, so suck less?`
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`07:28.06`	`vithos`	`yeahh....`
`07:29.24`	Funkeh`	`Why you would even go OVER the tank I don't know`
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`07:29.30`	`vithos`	`FD resist`
`07:29.40`	Funkeh`	`so dps less`
`07:29.53`	`Bruners`	`press escape and wait 5 seconds`
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`07:32.29`	`vithos`	`no need to fix errors in calculations, just blame me for trusting it?`
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`07:34.15`	`durcyn`	`did the tank eat a shadow nova`
`07:34.30`	`grzesieq`	`bleh. decided to skip some classes and realised the servers are down :/`
`07:34.45`	`vithos`	`he certainly did after i got him enfeebled`
`07:35.46`	`vithos`	`i'll check the log for before, if it matters`
`07:37.13`	`Keya`	`vithos: if that happened around 60% - we've had that as well, little buggy that large critter.`
`07:38.06`	`vithos`	`i tend to think it has nothing to do with that fight, since this happens to me a lot on a lot of different content`
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`08:06.30`	`tejing`	`charon: ping`
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`08:06.38`	`charon`	`pong?`
`08:06.40`	`[Liq]`	`Hi everyone :-)`
`08:07.16`	`tejing`	`hey, I use mangler for raiding, and I've noticed it shows missed/dodged mangles as thought htey'd succeeded`
`08:07.23`	`tejing`	`they'd*`
`08:08.21`	`tejing`	`took a look at your code and did some combatlog testing, and it looks like SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS fires even when the attack misses by some mechanism, you really should be firing off of SPELL_DAMAGE probably`
`08:08.33`	`durcyn`	`"your"?`
`08:08.40`	`durcyn`	`i don't think the author's in here =P`
`08:09.45`	`tejing`	`charon's the author, unless 2 people are named charon :-P`
`08:09.50`	`durcyn`	`oh, feh.`
`08:10.13`	`charon`	`tejing: you're right, now that you mention it. do you know if the debuff applies if the damage was absorbed entirely?`
`08:10.25`	`charon`	`probably not? in which case spell_damage seems to be the right thing`
`08:10.39`	`tejing`	`no, it does apply even if the damage is absorbed`
`08:11.54`	`tejing`	`haven't seen what the new combat log does with absorbed attacks actually`
`08:12.28`	`tejing`	`but my guess would be the event is still SPELL_DAMAGE`
`08:12.44`	`durcyn`	`absorb is an optional arg to SPELL_DAMAGE`
`08:13.13`	`charon`	`doesn't it register as spell_missed if the attack did no damage after absorb?`
`08:13.45`	`tejing`	`there's no MISSTYPE for absorb`
`08:13.48`	`durcyn`	`no, _MISSED is for misses/resists/dodges/parries`
`08:13.48`	`tejing`	`so I'd guess not`
`08:14.08`	`charon`	`ok in that case i'll check for positive damage`
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`08:14.46`	`tejing`	`debuff still applies with a full absorb though`
`08:14.51`	`durcyn`	`_DAMAGE: amount, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical, glancing, crushing`
`08:14.54`	`tejing`	`most attacks with debuffs do`
`08:15.10`	`tejing`	`so just check for spell_damage firing and that should do it I think`
`08:17.33`	`tejing`	`the only thing that might go awry there is cheat death, since that avoids the debuff application, but I think it still shows as a full absorb`
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`08:20.03`	`CIA-40`	`03charon * r72158 10Mangler/ (Mangler.lua Mangler.toc):`
`08:20.03`	`CIA-40`	`Mangler: Trigger on SPELL_DAMAGE (instead of SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS)`
`08:20.03`	`CIA-40`	`This should prevent it from displaying a bar for missed mangles.`
`08:20.03`	`CIA-40`	`Also remove executable bit from lua and toc`
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`08:21.00`	`charon`	`meh. forgot to put that in the commit, but thanks for noticing`
`08:21.16`	`tejing`	`no problem :-)`
`08:21.29`	`charon`	`please test, i can't play right now and odds are the EU servers aren't up yet anyway`
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`08:21.32`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-7aff20b`
`08:21.34`	`hubbub`	`Fix up ally chain QIDs thru lv60`
`08:21.36`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/7aff20b8649804adbd0efb46710340ecd55ae7f1`
`08:21.38`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-2187e19`
`08:21.40`	`hubbub`	`Darkshore QIDs`
`08:21.42`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/2187e1930b887a61d5a2ca9a1a8a04a0696427d4`
`08:21.44`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-37911e4`
`08:21.46`	`hubbub`	`Nagrand QIDs`
`08:21.46`	`tejing`	`will do`
`08:21.48`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/37911e41024ac40dbbeacac4a63a8aecf494f3f1`
`08:21.50`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-f983b52`
`08:21.52`	`hubbub`	`Tag ally chain quests for manual QIDing`
`08:21.54`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/f983b5280bb1068d1022916e2d6f6e61c1fcb60a`
`08:21.56`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-ddcb96b`
`08:21.57`	`Kalroth`	`stabs Tekkub`
`08:21.58`	`hubbub`	`Merge branch 'master' into AllyQIDs`
`08:22.00`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/ddcb96be78e2724c8d9b09e8dfa4a630b5ee5bac`
`08:22.02`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-cd56783`
`08:22.04`	`hubbub`	`Merge branch 'master' into AllyQIDs`
`08:22.06`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/cd56783a8ba0ed106a905661b3bb3f47abb92153`
`08:22.08`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-0252b1f`
`08:22.10`	`hubbub`	`Merge branch 'master' into AllyQIDs`
`08:22.12`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/0252b1f958592c1847d6640ff5de1de7c7cf210c`
`08:22.14`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-a8fd662`
`08:22.16`	`hubbub`	`First batch of ally chain QIDs`
`08:22.16`	`mitch0`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:22.18`	`hubbub`	`http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/commit/a8fd662ba2603fcafba4abf8a92ae3ac84717cbe`
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`08:22.23`	`charon`	`lol`
`08:22.45`	`charon`	`'git push' seems to be a tad bit too fast for a CIA style bot ;)`
`08:23.06`	`durcyn`	`it's also the exact same commits as 3 hours ago.`
`08:23.09`	`Tekkub`	`well taht and it's echoing commits it's already echoed because of the merge`
`08:23.16`	`Tekkub`	`not exact`
`08:23.21`	`Tekkub`	`but some are dup`
`08:23.27`	`starlon`	`stabs`
`08:23.27`	`lhunath`	`switching to GIT from SVN?`
`08:23.36`	`Tekkub`	`switched long ago`
`08:23.42`	`lhunath`	`intreguing.`
`08:24.36`	`Tekkub`	`back around thanksgiving to be exact`
`08:24.55`	`lhunath`	`just you or the whole ace repo?`
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`08:26.44`	`charon`	`i sure wish it was the whole ace`
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`08:27.18`	`charon`	`though there's apparently work going on at curse where they'll eventually support git in a dev.wowace.com-style autopackaging way`
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`08:29.00`	`CIA-40`	`03StiviS * r72159 10Nauticus/ (Locales/locale.esES.lua Nauticus.toc):`
`08:29.00`	`CIA-40`	`Nauticus:`
`08:29.00`	`CIA-40`	`- esES updated`
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`08:32.57`	`Tekkub`	`ah what the hell, I'll push one more merge before bed just to be a dick`
`08:34.18`	`CIA-40`	`03StiviS * r72160 10Skillet/ (Locale/Locale-esES.lua Skillet.toc):`
`08:34.18`	`CIA-40`	`Skillet:`
`08:34.18`	`CIA-40`	`- esES added`
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`08:34.31`	`hubbub`	`tourguide: 3lowlee 7LightHeadedNPCMapping0 SHA1-50aeae1`
`08:34.38`	`starlon`	`lol`
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`08:35.11`	`Orionshock`	`urg...`
`08:35.26`	`Orionshock`	`ok joining chat channels in OnEnable is bad.. any sugestions?`
`08:36.59`	`CIA-40`	`03daviesh * r72161 10AtlasLoot/Core/ (AtlasLoot.lua LootButtons.lua TextParsing.lua):`
`08:36.59`	`CIA-40`	`AtlasLoot:`
`08:36.59`	`CIA-40`	`- Update to take advantages of efficiencies offered by Patch 2.4.`
`08:36.59`	`CIA-40`	`- Implemented use of GetItemIcon() to remove the need of storing that data locally`
`08:36.59`	`CIA-40`	`- Implemented use of GetSpellInfo() and GetSpellLink() to allow implementation of preofessions properly`
`08:37.02`	`CIA-40`	`- Began use of embedded textures in fontstrings to GREATLY simplify code and to use memory more effectively.`
`08:37.35`	`CIA-40`	`03daviesh * r72162 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/crafting.en.lua:`
`08:37.35`	`CIA-40`	`AtlasLoot_Crafting:`
`08:37.35`	`CIA-40`	`- Update to prototype use of GetItemIcon() and a new way of doing professions`
`08:37.59`	`CIA-40`	`03ananhaid * r72163 10LittleWigs/MagistersTerrace/ (4 files):`
`08:37.59`	`CIA-40`	`LittleWigs:`
`08:37.59`	`CIA-40`	`- zhCN Magisters Terrace update.(done)`
`08:38.05`	`CIA-40`	`03daviesh * r72164 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/WorldPvP.en.lua:`
`08:38.05`	`CIA-40`	`AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:`
`08:38.05`	`CIA-40`	`- Update to prototype embedded textures in fontstrings.`
`08:39.02`	`charon`	`Antiarc: does LibBars support overlapping bars?`
`08:39.35`	`Kalroth`	`Antiarc is alive?!`
`08:39.41`	`durcyn`	`he's hiding, shhhh`
`08:39.49`	`Kalroth`	`pokes the antiarc with a loooong stick.`
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`08:44.34`	`CIA-40`	`MountUp:`
`08:44.34`	`CIA-40`	`- esES added`
`08:49.57`	`CIA-40`	`03orionshock * r72166 10GuildCraft/ (ChatChannelComms.lua GuildCraft.toc): GuildCraft: optimize ChatComms some to look better and conform to formatting style of mine.`
`08:50.51`	`CIA-40`	`03orionshock * r72167 10GuildCraft/GuildCraft.toc: GuildCraft: comment file out of toc, this is not ready yet :D`
`08:51.14`	`charon`	`who broke slashdot and sourceforge? or is this an attempt of my university to increase productivity by disabling /.?`
`08:51.26`	`Orionshock`	`^^ true`
`08:52.10`	`exor674`	`charon: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/slashdot.org http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/sf.net`
`08:52.34`	`charon`	`haha cool site exor674`
`08:53.47`	`mitch0`	`lulz`
`08:53.54`	`mitch0`	`I'll bookmark that ;)`
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`09:03.58`	`CIA-40`	`03charon * r72168 10Mangler/Mangler.lua: Mangler: Also trigger on full absorbs. (Thanks tejing)`
`09:08.31`	`Elkano`	`Ackis: ping?`
`09:08.59`	`CIA-40`	`03schelli 07Schelli * r72169 10IceHUD/IceHUD.toc: IceHUD.toc : just a minor change`
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`09:11.25`	`CIA-40`	`03silmano * r72170 10SellOMatic/SellOMatic.toc: SellOMatic: Some TOC Metadata changes`
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`09:16.21`	`Gngsk`	`durcyn, ping`
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`09:16.46`	`durcyn`	`Gngsk, hi`
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`09:36.00`	`CIA-40`	`03polleke * r72171 10LibResComm-1.0/LibResComm-1.0.lua:`
`09:36.00`	`CIA-40`	`LibResComm-1.0:`
`09:36.00`	`CIA-40`	`- Copy/paste is bad`
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`09:38.04`	`Orionshock`	`i find is sad that we make addons that compensate for blizzard's combat log programing :\`
`09:38.54`	`Orionshock`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`09:40.52`	`durcyn`	`really, because i find it amazing that blizzard facilitates our extensive modifications of their default UI`
`09:41.32`	`durcyn`	`i'd rather have a limited but extensible default than a complex but static one, tbh`
`09:41.53`	`Orionshock`	`well more wrt to missing things`
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`09:42.07`	`Orionshock`	`like libResCom...`
`09:42.25`	`Orionshock`	`it gets the: o.O look...`
`09:42.34`	`Jaxon`	`You know what I liked, City of Heroes UI. I thought it was quite effective.`
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`09:48.45`	`eNTi`	`hi. does anyone know, why skillet is being updated the last few days without changing the the toc to 20400?`
`09:49.22`	`durcyn`	`because the toc version means nothing.`
`09:49.37`	`eNTi`	`aight.`
`09:49.40`	`durcyn`	`and it's most likely getting library bumps`
`09:49.59`	`CIA-40`	`03StiviS * r72172 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.es.lua:`
`09:49.59`	`CIA-40`	`AtlasLoot:`
`09:49.59`	`CIA-40`	`- esES updated`
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`09:52.45`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, ping. oRa is sending RESNO on SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED. CTRA is not.`
`09:53.01`	`nevcairiel`	`maybe CTRA is wrong`
`09:53.09`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, it makes also no sense to send RESNO on SUCCEEDED`
`09:54.27`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, well... I would vote for sending RESYES on SUCCEEDED`
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`10:12.57`	`CIA-40`	`03StiviS * r72173 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua:`
`10:12.57`	`CIA-40`	`AutoBar :`
`10:12.57`	`CIA-40`	`- esES updated`
`10:13.00`	`CIA-40`	`03zhucc * r72174 10Chatter/Localization/zhTW.lua: Chatter:`
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`10:35.24`	`CIA-40`	`03hegarol * r72175 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:`
`10:35.24`	`CIA-40`	`AtlasLoot_BCInstances:`
`10:35.24`	`CIA-40`	`- icon cleaning`
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`10:45.46`	`CIA-40`	`AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:`
`10:45.46`	`CIA-40`	`- Arena Season 4 update`
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`10:54.32`	`SunTsu`	`Merl_: Didn't change anything, by looking at it I get the impression that those files are not even loaded`
`10:55.15`	`mitch0`	`hrmp... /. is still down`
`10:55.23`	`SunTsu`	`Merl_: And you don't need to know german at all ;) If you got mHUD working again I will be gladly send you an deDE localization`
`10:55.52`	`SunTsu`	`s/send/sending/`
`10:56.28`	`Merl_`	`thanks purl`
`10:57.11`	`SunTsu`	`Merl_: Not that it was not working at all, I just can't configure it anymore`
`10:57.15`	`tz8`	`anyone knows an addon to export the officer notes? a plain text to copy paste would be fine`
`10:57.23`	`Merl_`	`SunTsu: ehm, both module.xml and standalone.xml loads the localization files. Are you running each module as a stand alone, or as default?`
`10:58.29`	`SunTsu`	`Merl_: As default`
`11:01.53`	`Merl_`	`Try adding: error("enUS is loaded") as the first line in mHud/Configuration/Locale/enUS.lua, if you don't get the error the file isn't loaded at all`
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`11:03.55`	`SunTsu`	`Merl_: OK, I'll try that, as soon as I am home. Which, unfortunately, will bin in around 7 hours from now`
`11:04.47`	`SunTsu`	`.o0( "be" - I should try reading what I am writing before I press return )`
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`11:05.36`	`Merl_`	`hehe, np, I'll prob be here, can't find any reason way the files aren't loaded tho.`
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`11:08.18`	`SunTsu`	`I wish I had VNC access to my workstation at home, like I used to have ;)`
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`12:09.24`	`zarevak`	`hi, some addon broke the wowace Zip script :( take a look at: http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt - it ends with traceback`
`12:14.05`	`Zyuu`	`zarevak ill speak with Kaelten`
`12:14.27`	`kalahassi`	`there are 3 addons with broken externals showing up evry single time this script runs ;)`
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`12:18.42`	`Orionshock`	`lol`
`12:18.43`	`Orionshock`	`2008-04-30 11:52:59 Updating from http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/tags/0.4-NC/ for Nauticus`
`12:20.09`	`CIA-40`	`03Barov * r72179 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Tradeskill : frFR updated`
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`12:20.33`	`Droolio`	`what's wrong with that external?`
`12:22.01`	`Orionshock`	`the external is not on the wowace svn, so the externals zip is phooked`
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`12:22.30`	Funkeh`	`Orionshock, it handles them fine.`
`12:22.49`	`durcyn`	`off-site externals are permitted`
`12:22.49`	`Droolio`	`i thought so too`
`12:23.19`	`durcyn`	`however, pasta or someone bizarrely similar to him was fiddling iwth categories recently`
`12:23.19`	`Bruners`	`how can i add my own border on chinchilla without getting error from LibRockLocale-1.0 ?`
`12:23.30`	`Orionshock`	`permitted yes, tho how does it handle it in the no-ext zip? does it just compile with that off site external or does it ignore it?`
`12:24.01`	`durcyn`	`Orionshock: no externals are included in no-ext zips, period`
`12:24.07`	Funkeh`	`It's an external`
`12:24.28`	Funkeh`	`Doesn't matter where it is located`
`12:24.30`	`Orionshock`	`hehe, so the no-ext zip is... in effect broken...`
`12:24.32`	`durcyn`	`the files script has nothing to do with updaters pulling in deps for no-ext installs`
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`12:24.41`	`Ellipsis`	`if you do it wrong`
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`12:27.34`	`kenlyric`	`an external can be included if the author uploads the lib along with the mod.`
`12:27.51`	`Orionshock`	`kenlyric: then it's not an external`
`12:28.01`	`Orionshock`	`.`
`12:28.06`	`kenlyric`	`but it looks like one on TV`
`12:31.04`	`Ellipsis`	`prods fisheye`
`12:31.10`	`kenlyric`	`an off-site external has to be included in the upload to svn, you can't just put it it in svn:externals and x-embeds and expect magic to happen`
`12:31.18`	`kenlyric`	`*off-site library`
`12:31.18`	`durcyn`	`prods Ellipsis`
`12:31.31`	`Ellipsis`	`who forgot to feed the fish?`
`12:31.44`	`Ellipsis`	`he seems to be floating upside down`
`12:31.47`	`kenlyric`	`I blame the guy who can open the tank`
`12:32.30`	`Ellipsis`	`anyhow, as I was TRYING to demonstrate, I know there is some magic you can do to get off-site externals to be zipped in no-exts`
`12:32.36`	`Ellipsis`	`grid does it with the UTF-8 lib`
`12:32.43`	`durcyn`	`http://groups.google.com/group/wowace`
`12:32.49`	`durcyn`	`fish is so last year`
`12:32.51`	`kenlyric`	`I think the utf lib is uploaded with the mod.`
`12:32.55`	`Ellipsis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:32.56`	`Ellipsis`	`no`
`12:33.03`	`Ellipsis`	`check the externals on grid's libs dir`
`12:33.10`	`Ellipsis`	`UTF-8 is an offsite external`
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`12:34.06`	`Bruners`	`hi ck`
`12:35.28`	`kenlyric`	`guess I never looked at those. I assumed it was part of the actual mod since libs\UTF8\utf8.lua`
`12:35.40`	`Ellipsis`	`http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Grid/libs`
`12:35.57`	`Ellipsis`	`no files in the dir on svn, just an external to pastamancer's site`
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`12:36.20`	`kenlyric`	`nice`
`12:36.23`	`kenlyric`	`magic`
`12:36.25`	`Ellipsis`	`yup`
`12:36.41`	`Ellipsis`	`so it's possible, but might need some kind of voodoo blessing from pastamancer or something`
`12:36.44`	`kenlyric`	`special dispensation from kaelton?`
`12:37.28`	`Ellipsis`	`I suppose it's technically a security hole if that can be automatically done`
`12:37.59`	`kenlyric`	`I have a vague memory of something horrible happening with that UTF lib when the website was altered and borked all the updaters.`
`12:38.15`	`Orionshock`	`not sure bout Nauticus, but Astrolabe is there as an off-site external in the no-ext zip ...`
`12:38.18`	`Orionshock`	`hummm...`
`12:40.42`	`Droolio`	`i have no idea how i set that up, but it was no magic...`
`12:41.19`	`Droolio`	`i think, Astrolabe just isn't mentioned in embeds.xml, maybe that why?`
`12:42.48`	`Ellipsis`	`off-site externals should be referenced in the toc rather than embeds.xml`
`12:42.57`	`Ellipsis`	`for the no-ext zips to work properly`
`12:43.15`	`Droolio`	`yup, that's how Nauticus does it`
`12:43.25`	`kenlyric`	`I think no-ext only cares what svn:externals says`
`12:43.34`	`Droolio`	`as Astrolabe isn't put out as a standalone`
`12:43.51`	`kenlyric`	`I guess the .toc tells it where to go though.`
`12:44.08`	`Orionshock`	`reason is that the no-ext script guts the embeds.xml file`
`12:50.15`	`CIA-40`	`03daviesh * r72180 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/crafting.en.lua:`
`12:50.15`	`CIA-40`	`AtlasLoot_Crafting:`
`12:50.15`	`CIA-40`	`- Typo fixes`
`12:50.44`	`Kalroth`	`pastamancer is obviously a magician that put a spell on it, Ellipsis`
`12:51.01`	`Kalroth`	`(hence his name)`
`12:51.20`	`Ellipsis`	`so one might say that grid has been touched by his noodly appendage?`
`12:51.37`	`Kalroth`	`Weeeeeell`
`12:51.49`	`durcyn`	`'mancer' is actually short for 'romancer'`
`12:51.52`	`durcyn`	`if you get my drift`
`12:52.10`	`Kalroth`	`So he's sleeping with pasta?`
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`12:54.50`	`ckknight`	`actually mancer comes from the greek 'manteia', which means divination`
`12:55.17`	`Orionshock`	`so, he's a noodly god?`
`12:55.17`	`durcyn`	`it was a joke, mister knight.`
`12:55.51`	`durcyn`	`and divination could also be called seeing, thusly, he's a noodle-gazer. quod erat demonstrandum.`
`12:55.54`	`Ellipsis`	`pastamancer is a class in kingdom of loathing`
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`12:56.53`	`Orionshock`	`urg, latin...`
`12:57.01`	`ckknight`	`pastamancer has yet to mance me up some pasta, despite repeated requests`
`12:57.51`	`Ellipsis`	`I'd pay to see that`
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`13:09.10`	`CIA-40`	`03ennuilg * r72181 10scorchio/ (changelog.txt locales/localisation-fr.lua scorchio.toc):`
`13:09.10`	`CIA-40`	`scorchio:`
`13:09.10`	`CIA-40`	`- Added french localisation. (Thanks nico!)`
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`13:29.13`	`CIA-40`	`03elsia * r72182 10Recount/Tracker.lua:`
`13:29.13`	`CIA-40`	`Recount:`
`13:29.13`	`CIA-40`	`- Fixed bug where block, miss, parry, dodge and other miss types weren't recorded for the detail summary under certain conditions.`
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`13:45.44`	`Pkekyo\|`	`http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/674/barbieformenss9.jpg chuckles`
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`13:47.56`	Funkeh`	`Time for belgium, won't be back untill sunday, hf!`
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`13:52.00`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72184 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFuLocals-zhTW.lua:`
`13:52.00`	`CIA-40`	`FuBar_ExperienceFu:`
`13:52.00`	`CIA-40`	`- Update zhTW localization.`
`13:52.02`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor * r72183 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (6 files in 4 dirs):`
`13:52.02`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`13:52.02`	`CIA-40`	`- Add HP/Mana/Energy/Rage/% options to Main Sphere text`
`13:52.14`	`durcyn`	`oh, belgium.`
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`13:54.26`	`Pkekyo\|`	`this channel is now about beligum!`
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`13:56.41`	`nevcairiel`	`whats beligum?`
`13:56.55`	`durcyn`	`Belgium is the single most offensive word in the galaxy.`
`13:57.08`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72185 10WitchHunt/locales/zhTW.lua:`
`13:57.08`	`CIA-40`	`WitchHunt:`
`13:57.08`	`CIA-40`	`- Update zhTW localization.`
`14:00.59`	`Zhinjio`	`Good morning, folks.`
`14:01.01`	`kagaro`	`anyone have luck using MovieRecording_DeleteMovie to actually delete the move from disk?`
`14:01.11`	`eNTi`	`belgium is a rare material only found in the belg mountains`
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`14:03.43`	`Pkekyo\|`	`belgium is filled to the brim with win, and then topped off with a little sprinkeled awesome!`
`14:07.19`	`CIA-40`	`03jjsheets * r72186 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Button.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Fix a couple bugs introduced in the last version.`
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`14:13.44`	`Megalon`	`Pkekyo\|: you forgot the pedophiles :P`
`14:14.26`	`Pkekyo\|`	`maybe so, either way I'm going to bed`
`14:14.26`	`Pkekyo\|`	`g'nite`
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`14:21.05`	`ckknight`	`hey Antiarc`
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`14:29.49`	`AckisWork`	`good morning`
`14:30.21`	`Zhinjio`	`G'morning AckisWork`
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`14:31.02`	`AckisWork`	`~arl`
`14:31.06`	`AckisWork`	`sighs`
`14:31.10`	`AckisWork`	`I hate you purl!`
`14:31.59`	`nevcairiel`	`purl hates you too`
`14:32.09`	`nevcairiel`	`~botsnack`
`14:32.09`	`purl`	`nevcairiel: aw, gee`
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`14:34.41`	`Silencer`	`any good addon for ignoring the gold selling wispers ?`
`14:35.21`	`AckisWork`	`sighs`
`14:35.32`	`AckisWork`	`Silencer: If enough people buy their gold, they'll stop!`
`14:35.33`	`Bruners`	`SpamSentry seems to work good now`
`14:36.09`	`Silencer`	`I need some addon that is imba :) and that I will also do the review on my fansite :)`
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`14:36.33`	`SunTsu`	`AckisWork: They only stop because they move to Haiti and then others spam instead`
`14:36.41`	`Bruners`	`have not seen a spam since i installed SpamSentry again a week ago`
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`14:36.53`	`AckisWork`	`lol`
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`14:39.26`	`kagaro`	`~seen Elisa`
`14:39.29`	`purl`	`elisa <n=elisa@87.14.122.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 161d 17h 9m 34s ago, saying: 'the error is: the kde-base/ksync package conflicts with another package'.`
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`14:43.03`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: you can poke me about stuff here as well, don't have to send me forum messages`
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`14:43.35`	`kagaro`	`vhaarr: k, like I said just wanted to let you know if was working`
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`14:45.38`	`kagaro`	`a best case of 90+% of the time it starts and stops is good enough for me, i just kept forgetting to hit my keybind`
`14:45.51`	`vhaarr`	`the scanning should work fine`
`14:45.57`	`vhaarr`	`noone has complained yet`
`14:46.08`	`kagaro`	`yeah it works great except for fights like Shade of Akama`
`14:46.29`	`vhaarr`	`hm long time since I was there`
`14:46.31`	`nevcairiel`	`what addon are you talking about?`
`14:46.32`	`vhaarr`	`you can't target shade?`
`14:46.48`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72187 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-zhTW.lua:`
`14:46.48`	`CIA-40`	`Click2Cast:`
`14:46.48`	`CIA-40`	`- Update zhTW localization.`
`14:46.59`	`kagaro`	`not till he is unleashed from statis`
`14:47.07`	`kagaro`	`once the channelers die`
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`14:47.25`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`14:47.30`	`vhaarr`	`and akama is not classified as a boss?`
`14:48.30`	`kagaro`	`he is, but by time you start kiling him is a whle into the encounter`
`14:49.36`	`vhaarr`	`actually he's not`
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`14:50.49`	`kagaro`	`really? I thought it said 'boss' on his classification last night`
`14:50.57`	`vhaarr`	`for SHADE yes`
`14:50.59`	`vhaarr`	`NOT for akama`
`14:51.17`	`kagaro`	`ahh yeah`
`14:51.49`	`kagaro`	`i wonder why there isnt a bigwigs module for it for P1, P2 and timer on P2`
`14:52.14`	`vhaarr`	`because noone made it`
`14:52.24`	`vhaarr`	`pretty useless anyway`
`14:52.25`	`Bruners`	`do you really need one for p1?`
`14:52.30`	`Apoco`	`Is there a way to increase the max number of lines a chatframe will hold? Wowwiki wont work`
`14:52.33`	`kagaro`	`no but P2 maybe`
`14:52.36`	`vhaarr`	`Bruners: noone made it because noone really needs it`
`14:52.56`	`durcyn`	`Apoco: look at chatter/s 'tiny chat' module`
`14:53.02`	`Bruners`	`and if you dont make it, you dont make it in p2`
`14:53.36`	`Apoco`	`Tiny Chat just allows you to resize the frame smaller, I want the frame to hold more lines`
`14:53.36`	`Apoco`	`:)`
`14:54.05`	`durcyn`	`Apoco: it should allow larger sizing too, if it's properly cribbed from Prat`
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`14:55.02`	`Apoco`	`it still wont hold more information`
`14:55.13`	`durcyn`	`oh, you mean scrollback`
`14:55.33`	`Apoco`	`yeah`
`14:55.46`	`Apoco`	`there we go`
`14:55.48`	`kagaro`	`vhaarr: watching for the RebootModule though works like a champ`
`14:55.50`	`Apoco`	`ChatFrameX:SetMaxLines(x)`
`14:56.04`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: indeed`
`14:56.24`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: but only for boss modules that implement :CheckForWipe`
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`14:57.00`	`kagaro`	`yup, but I also check on regen_enabled`
`14:57.27`	`kagaro`	`just use RebootModule for BossDeath, i need to add a UnitDied check in still`
`14:58.00`	`vhaarr`	`kagaro: you can't really rely on anything bigwigs gives you, since everything depends on the boss module author`
`14:58.07`	`vhaarr`	`he doesn't have to use any of the provided functionality`
`14:58.12`	`kagaro`	`i wish though there was some docs for the movie recording api`
`14:58.25`	`kagaro`	`vhaarr: yeah im using it if I gt it otherwise im adding other checks in as well`
`14:58.26`	`vhaarr`	`and boss modules only use :CheckForEngage/Wipe if they have to`
`14:59.47`	`Xinhuan`	`what do you call a person that performs a autopsy... the profession name`
`14:59.49`	`CIA-40`	`03elsia * r72188 10Recount/ (5 files):`
`14:59.49`	`CIA-40`	`Recount:`
`14:59.49`	`CIA-40`	`- Now stores last selected fight in saved variables and restores it between sessions.`
`14:59.49`	`CIA-40`	`- Stores last selected main window view in saved variables and restores it between sessions.`
`14:59.49`	`CIA-40`	`- Properly resets selected fight to overall data if the last viewed fight was deleted.`
`14:59.55`	`nevcairiel`	`coroner?`
`14:59.58`	`kagaro`	`so far in BT has been working fine, ill be in hyjal thursday to see how it goes there`
`15:00.02`	`Xinhuan`	`aha right`
`15:00.03`	`durcyn`	`medical examiner, coroner, yeah`
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`15:04.18`	`Silverstorm`	`kagaro, for Shade of Akama...the timer in P2 is Akama's health bar :-p`
`15:07.00`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72189 10beql/ (beql.toc locales/localization-tw.lua):`
`15:07.00`	`CIA-40`	`beql:`
`15:07.00`	`CIA-40`	`- Update zhTW localization.`
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`15:09.18`	`harldephin`	`Omen's profile thing working for anyone?`
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`15:12.04`	`Xinhuan`	`what's wrong with it`
`15:13.42`	`harldephin`	`i can't choose it to use an existing profile or copy its settings. trying either of this just doesn't do anything.`
`15:14.08`	`harldephin`	`am i missing a library or something?`
`15:16.35`	`Xinhuan`	`any error messages?`
`15:16.42`	`Tasky`	`hm`
`15:16.49`	`Tasky`	`i broke my stats logger, or maybe it`
`15:16.54`	`Tasky`	`s always been broken`
`15:17.08`	`Tasky`	`but it logs damage from every friendly unit :\`
`15:19.12`	`durcyn`	`what srcflags are you filtering on?`
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`15:23.40`	`Tasky`	`http://ace.pastey.net/86937`
`15:24.24`	`durcyn`	`you're doing bitwise or on REACTION_FRIENDLY`
`15:25.14`	`charon`	`bit.band(srcFlags, COMBATLOG_FILTER_MINE) >0 only checks if a single bit from that mask is set... try bit.band(srcFlags, COMBATLOG_FILTER_MINE) == COMBATLOG_FILTER_MINE`
`15:25.17`	`charon`	`same for the other three ofc`
`15:25.23`	`charon`	`*two`
`15:26.04`	`durcyn`	`just do local isShitICareAbout = (bit.band(srcFlags, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_RAID+COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_PARTY+COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_MINE) ~= 0)`
`15:26.22`	`durcyn`	`you can compress the stupid long global strings to '7', by the way.`
`15:27.16`	`Polarina`	`durcyn: bit.band(srcFlags, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_RAID, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_PARTY, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_MINE) > 0`
`15:27.20`	`Xinhuan`	`great`
`15:27.38`	`durcyn`	`yes, that's basically what i said`
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`15:28.15`	`Xinhuan`	`i just foudn out why ppl stop appearing on omen`
`15:28.28`	`Xinhuan`	`for long periods of time, they reappear sometime later`
`15:28.40`	`AckisWork`	`alignment of the stars?`
`15:29.00`	`Xinhuan`	`releasing a bar, antiarc didn't set .isTitle = nil`
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`15:29.20`	`Xinhuan`	`so on acquring a new bar from the recycled frame pool, it remained marked as a title bar and gets skipped`
`15:29.24`	`Xinhuan`	`for display`
`15:29.26`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72190 10simpleMinimap/ (localizations.lua simpleMinimap.toc):`
`15:29.26`	`CIA-40`	`simpleMinimap:`
`15:29.26`	`CIA-40`	`- Update zhTW localization.`
`15:29.26`	`CIA-40`	`- Added Notes-zhTW.`
`15:29.41`	`Xinhuan`	`pretty dumb bug, leads me to check for other things now`
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`15:30.29`	`SunTsu`	`Afterwards Omen is going to be certified Xinhuan-proof? ;`
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`15:30.51`	`durcyn`	`AckisWork: poke`
`15:30.58`	`AckisWork`	`I've been poked! ahhhhhh`
`15:31.06`	`loswo`	`anybody know if there is a way to apply clearfont only to the addons?`
`15:31.18`	`durcyn`	`AckisWork: make ARL's text area stop expanding downward every time the window is toggled, would you please`
`15:31.22`	`Xinhuan`	`fixing like 3 bugs at the same time`
`15:31.36`	`AckisWork`	`durcyn: what do you mean?`
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`15:33.48`	`durcyn`	`http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1505/arlwheeup2.jpg`
`15:34.27`	`durcyn`	`if it's not your fault then it's jncl's`
`15:34.29`	`harldephin`	`Xinhuan: there are no Omen-related errors in my BugSack`
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`15:34.37`	`AckisWork`	`would you believe me if I said that's a feature? :P jncl?`
`15:34.50`	`durcyn`	`jncl, the mope maintaining skinner`
`15:34.55`	`AckisWork`	`ahh`
`15:35.01`	`Xinhuan`	`can you explain a little bit more when you say "doesn't work"`
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`15:36.11`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72191 10SmartyCatManaBar/SmartyCatManaBar.toc:`
`15:36.11`	`CIA-40`	`SmartyCatManaBar:`
`15:36.11`	`CIA-40`	`- Added Notes-zhCN.`
`15:36.11`	`CIA-40`	`- Added Notes-zhTW.`
`15:36.27`	`ncd\|Aileen`	`how to get new textures for Quartz? Shared Media doesn't seem to work for me :/`
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`15:37.02`	`AckisWork`	`durcyn: I'm going to say that it's jncl's issue because the scroll child is only touched upon creation of the frame and it's never resized (static value)`
`15:37.06`	`Dashkal`	`Does AutoBar no longer do profiles?`
`15:37.25`	`harldephin`	`Xinhuan: when i either choose an existing profile to use from the first drop down list or choose an existing profile to copy the settings from from the second drop down list, it doesn't load or change any settings or profiles. i have to set up all settings for each character individually.`
`15:37.30`	`durcyn`	`ncd\|Aileen: the answer is, drumroll please, SharedMedia. please define 'doesn't seem to work'`
`15:37.52`	`AckisWork`	`durcyn: ie: lines 440-460ish in ARLFrame.lua`
`15:37.55`	`ncd\|Aileen`	`just asking for a friend, so I don't know his issue :/`
`15:38.33`	`durcyn`	`AckisWork: son of a bitch, he's SetHeighting your ScrollFrame to GetHeight+10`
`15:38.36`	`Xinhuan`	`ok i'll look into it`
`15:38.54`	`AckisWork`	`durcyn: that would explain it`
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`15:44.05`	`AckisWork`	`where is the /in command defined? Ace2 or Ace3?`
`15:45.12`	`Stanzilla`	`2`
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`15:45.51`	`Matrix110\|`	`or inside Cosmos!`
`15:46.01`	`AckisWork`	`...`
`15:46.18`	`Matrix110\|`	`*Chronos i meant`
`15:46.22`	`Matrix110\|`	`but oringally from Cosmos :D`
`15:48.28`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72192 10Transcriptor/ (Core.lua Transcriptor.toc):`
`15:48.28`	`CIA-40`	`Transcriptor:`
`15:48.28`	`CIA-40`	`- Update zhTW localization.`
`15:48.28`	`CIA-40`	`- Added Notes-zhCN.`
`15:48.29`	`CIA-40`	`- Added Notes-zhTW.`
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`15:56.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`what's superior for Mother Shahraz: getting all craftable SR gear thus reaching 370 SR without further help and putting "real" pve enchants on everything, or using alternate (alternate to your non-SR gear, likely inferior, like using T4 when you have T5) gear in some places and enchanting/glyphing/gemming/armorkitting that for +SR (also, engineer trinkets)?`
`15:56.59`	`CIA-40`	`03scorpio0920 * r72193 10UnitPrice/UnitPrice.toc:`
`15:56.59`	`CIA-40`	`UnitPrice:`
`15:56.59`	`CIA-40`	`- Added Notes-zhCN.`
`15:56.59`	`CIA-40`	`- Added Notes-zhTW.`
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`15:57.49`	`evl`	`Gnarfoz: most guilds use bollts, belts, bracers, cloak and neck afaik`
`15:57.53`	`evl`	`boots*`
`15:58.28`	`Gnarfoz`	`yeah, that's what we're going for atm, legs need 3 hearts, that's just ridiculous ^^`
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`15:59.02`	`evl`	`doubt you'll find many that use legs, it's too big a slot`
`15:59.22`	`Gnarfoz`	`+15 SR on cloak doesn't hurt, really, there's no really good enchant for it, anyway`
`16:00.48`	`evl`	`we use 10`
`16:00.49`	`evl`	`afaik`
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`16:00.57`	`EvilJohn`	`we don't use legs`
`16:01.33`	`EvilJohn`	`+15 SR is a good choice, you don't do enough damage to outthreat the tanks so subtlety isn't needed`
`16:01.49`	`EvilJohn`	`boar's speed on the boats is highly recommended`
`16:02.01`	`evl`	`i think that's going a bit over the top tbh :P`
`16:02.10`	`evl`	`10 SR and 12 stam will do just find`
`16:02.12`	`evl`	`fine*`
`16:02.16`	`EvilJohn`	`the extra speed helps a lot`
`16:02.19`	`evl`	`if you need boar's to keep people alive your people suck P`
`16:02.41`	`EvilJohn`	`thank you for that blinding insight`
`16:03.57`	`Zhinjio`	`can :AddLine and :AddCategory only be called on a tablet when its registered for the first time?`
`16:04.23`	`Zhinjio`	`and is that Register code getting executed every time I mouse over the parent frame, or just once?`
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`16:06.29`	`AckisWork`	`boars speed is an OP enchnat`
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`16:16.00`	`stavmar`	`any webdevelopers know where the globla file is located on a typical PhP website setup, I always forget?`
`16:16.27`	`nevcairiel`	`global file?`
`16:16.38`	`nevcairiel`	`index.php? =P`
`16:16.47`	`Vulcanus`	`global.php mebbe`
`16:16.48`	`Vulcanus`	`XD`
`16:17.02`	`silentium`	`.htaccess? :p`
`16:17.04`	`Zhinjio`	`stavmar: /etc/php/php.ini`
`16:17.07`	`Zhinjio`	`or /etc/php.ini`
`16:17.20`	`nevcairiel`	`or /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini :P`
`16:17.22`	`Zhinjio`	`or under the webserver path if you're mebedded in apache`
`16:17.23`	`Zhinjio`	`yes`
`16:17.32`	`stavmar`	`yeah a place where i can make a script change that affects teh entire site`
`16:17.33`	`Zhinjio`	`/opt/apache2/conf/php`
`16:17.44`	`Zhinjio`	`(or whatrever yr apache path is)`
`16:17.46`	`nevcairiel`	`stavmar: probably the index.php you want`
`16:17.52`	`nevcairiel`	`really depends on the code`
`16:17.58`	`nevcairiel`	`thats a too generic question :D`
`16:18.08`	`stavmar`	`ok i will try to narrow it down...`
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`16:20.09`	`CIA-40`	`03zeksie * r72194 10ZOMGBuffs/ (5 files in 5 dirs):`
`16:20.09`	`CIA-40`	`ZOMGBuffs:`
`16:20.09`	`CIA-40`	`- Blessings Manager class splits selection now has a tickbox to enable use of guild roster members, when enabled you can select which ranks should appear in the splits.`
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`16:23.10`	`elite3vil`	`"You're an officer, you should be able to watch your threat.. you get no salv"`
`16:23.18`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`anyone want to help me with mystery taint? :(`
`16:23.27`	`nevcairiel`	`nop`
`16:23.34`	`Psycho`	`Wash thoroughly every day, sag_ich_nicht`
`16:23.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`(no shotgun debugging/50:50 disabling, that takes longer than tracing the taint and unlike 50:50 disabling, i might actually learn something from it)`
`16:24.14`	`nevcairiel`	`a binary search to track the source down is the fastest way :P`
`16:24.37`	`AckisWork`	`snickers at the comment about mystery taint.`
`16:24.45`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`not when it sometimes takes hours until the taint error pops up because i can't reproduce it properly`
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`16:25.36`	`sb`	`stavmar: /usr/local/lib/php.ini`
`16:26.28`	`stavmar`	`I think I was looking for teh overal_header template to insert the WoWHead code change to show Wowhead links on my forums...`
`16:26.44`	`stavmar`	`"<script src="http://www.wowhead.com/widgets/power.js"></script>" to "<script src="http://www.wowhead.com/widgets/power.js?lol"></script>"`
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`16:28.57`	`chiper`	`http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Up-or-Out-Solving-the-IT-Turnover-Crisis.aspx <-- awesome article`
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`16:37.58`	`AnarchyAo`	`anyone happen to know what it means when WoW sits at a full bar load screen and won't let me access any of my characters?`
`16:38.35`	`AnarchyAo`	`I lagged out before this happened and I was running an auctioneer scan, I had to ctrl+alt+delete WoW because it didn't disconnect me from the server, it just sat there ingame all lagged up.`
`16:39.02`	`ANTRat`	`sounds like world server crashed`
`16:39.16`	`rubik`	`did it just freeze? were you logging out?`
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`16:39.49`	`Kaelten`	`anyone running on a french client?`
`16:39.56`	`AnarchyAo`	`nope I wasn't logging out, I was doing a scan with auctioneer at the auction house, and it lagged out...so I was sitting ingame with everyone just running in place`
`16:40.04`	`AnarchyAo`	`It was like that for 5 minute so I just ended the WoW process.`
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`16:40.36`	`SunTsu`	`AnarchyAo: Had that when the realm went down and the login servers didn't notice it yet`
`16:40.51`	`rubik`	`ahh ok.. not sure then.. i just know that when do a full AH scan with auctioneer, my game lags very bad for the 30 or so seconds it takes to do the full scan`
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`16:41.53`	`Xinhuan`	`my realm just died 2 min ago`
`16:42.18`	`AnarchyAo`	`which realm?`
`16:42.22`	`Xinhuan`	`blackrock`
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`16:43.02`	`AnarchyAo`	`hmmm`
`16:43.10`	`AnarchyAo`	`so odd, it's not letting me in at all.`
`16:43.13`	`AnarchyAo`	`i'm on Tichondrius.`
`16:43.25`	`AnarchyAo`	`I tried removing my WTF folder thinking my addon might of done something screwy, but no luck.`
`16:44.00`	`AnarchyAo`	`Is blackrock still not working for you Xinhuan?`
`16:44.21`	`sacarasc`	`lolmerica crashed?`
`16:44.47`	`Xinhuan`	`nope`
`16:45.01`	`Xinhuan`	`stuck retrieving char`
`16:45.06`	`AnarchyAo`	`hmmm`
`16:45.16`	`AnarchyAo`	`let me tyr making a character on blackrock`
`16:45.25`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't think you can even create a char on br`
`16:45.35`	`Xinhuan`	`you'll just be stuck retrieving char list`
`16:45.40`	`Xinhuan`	`before you can even create`
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`16:46.01`	`AnarchyAo`	`odd, can you try going onto tichondrius and logging into a character?`
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`16:46.05`	`AnarchyAo`	`I'd like to see if it lets you`
`16:46.17`	`AnarchyAo`	`and yeah, blackrock is just sitting at retrieving.`
`16:47.04`	`sacarasc`	`auctioneer just crashed america`
`16:47.28`	`evl`	`Any clever way to figure out if a certain totem in my party is up?`
`16:47.30`	`evl`	`I'm not the shaman`
`16:47.38`	`Xinhuan`	`check your buffs?`
`16:48.25`	`evl`	`Xinhuan: I want to check if windfury totem is up but I'm still using a main hand enchant oO`
`16:48.55`	`Xinhuan`	`think there is SPELL_CREATE in the combatlog for totems.. not sure`
`16:49.01`	`Xinhuan`	`have fun ;p`
`16:49.16`	`Xinhuan`	`doesn't imply its up though`
`16:49.22`	`Xinhuan`	`despawns don't have messages i think`
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`16:54.18`	`Dashkal`	`~seen toadkiller`
`16:54.33`	`purl`	`toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-161.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 32m 49s ago, saying: 'Orionshock: "A Magnanimous Benefactor" Anchorite Kairthos'.`
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`16:58.00`	`CIA-40`	`03Krevlorn * r72195 10FuBar_HonorFuPlus/FuBar_HonorFuPlus.toc: FuBar_HonorFuPlus: fixed interface error`
`16:59.10`	`kenlyric`	`hmmm... duratek doesn't show items which are completely broken :/`
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`17:09.16`	`Dashkal`	`bleh. fisheye needs a nice pretty svn url displayed somewhere...`
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`17:10.46`	`CIA-40`	`03dashkal 07dashkal * r72196 10Nexus/Nexus/LICENSE.txt: Fixed the license (should be proper BSD2 now, instead of the annotated ace3 version)`
`17:11.27`	`NivFreak`	`HonorFuPlus?`
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`17:11.47`	`NivFreak`	`wouldn't it be more like HonorFuMinus?`
`17:12.42`	`Dashkal`	`there has got to be a better way to "disconnect" an svn project than find . -type d -name .svn -exec rm -Rf "{}" \;`
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`17:14.50`	`pastamancer`	`svn export`
`17:15.26`	`dafi`	`that commit totaly broke it now, not that it was working before :\`
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`17:16.33`	`dafi`	`did ckk shot the mod down?`
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`17:16.42`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`17:16.45`	`dafi`	`or something... it's not even building on wowfiles`
`17:16.49`	`dafi`	`HonorFuPlus`
`17:16.58`	`ckknight`	`what about it?`
`17:16.59`	`dafi`	`*files.wowace`
`17:17.11`	`dafi`	`doesn't show on files.wowace`
`17:17.40`	`dafi`	`i thougth it might had been removed for some reason`
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`17:18.24`	`Dashkal`	`ooo, danke Pastamancer`
`17:19.16`	`Tasky`	hey i found a bug in threat2.0... http://ace.pastey.net/86945 Assertion failed: type(nil --[[unit_id]]) == "string" in function `ThreatUpdatedForUnit'
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`17:24.14`	`CIA-40`	`03rabbit * r72197 10NRT/ (NRT.lua NRT.toc embeds.xml libs/): NRT: Use MessageEventFilters instead of hooking.`
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`17:32.36`	`CIA-40`	`03rabbit * r72198 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: We need to process all offline guild members as well.`
`17:35.50`	`Matrix110`	`hmmm`
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`17:43.06`	`Elsia`	`heya`
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`17:44.26`	`dylanm`	`Hey Elsia how goes it`
`17:46.08`	`CIA-40`	`03benumbed * r72199 10DaHud/:`
`17:46.08`	`CIA-40`	`DaHud:`
`17:46.08`	`CIA-40`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:46.21`	`vhaarr`	`what a charming commit message`
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`17:46.42`	`dafi`	`a man of few words`
`17:47.07`	`haste`	`I would say it's on the same level as my: Read the diff commits`
`17:47.31`	`genetik`	`isn't there a pre-commit hook that prevents people from leaving empty commit messages?`
`17:47.41`	`Elsia`	`going good thanks`
`17:47.42`	`vhaarr`	`it's not empty`
`17:48.00`	`vhaarr`	`it contains :\n -`
`17:48.03`	`genetik`	`oh, he added the hypen`
`17:48.08`	`genetik`	`lame`
`17:48.34`	`Hjalte`	`Elsia: morning elsia (it's always morning on IRC, right?)`
`17:48.44`	`Elsia`	`yeps`
`17:48.47`	`vhaarr`	`when someone joins a room, yes`
`17:51.11`	`durcyn`	`~ugt`
`17:51.12`	`purl`	`hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html`
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`17:53.49`	`Psycho`	`Sweet jesus why would anyone go through the trouble of writing that down.`
`17:54.09`	`Psycho`	`No, no. I have to be fair. I've got like 30 pages of boss strats under my belt. :(`
`18:01.29`	`Kuja^`	`hrm`
`18:01.45`	`Kuja^`	`is the EU loginserver broken or is it just me?`
`18:02.59`	`Daemona`	`i dont feel like testing atm, got a mob in my target called M'uru or somesuch ...`
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`18:06.25`	`CIA-40`	`03profalbert * r72200 10Parrot/Code/TriggerConditions.lua:`
`18:06.25`	`CIA-40`	`Parrot:`
`18:06.25`	`CIA-40`	`- fixed Trigger-bug in damagehandling`
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`18:14.12`	`CIA-40`	`03xinhuan * r72201 10Omen/Bar.lua:`
`18:14.12`	`CIA-40`	`Omen: Fix for not seeing the threat of some people in your raid when the rest of`
`18:14.12`	`CIA-40`	`your raid sees them. This is a result of not setting .isTitle to false when`
`18:14.12`	`CIA-40`	`releasing a bar, and the code skipped displaying reused title bars for these`
`18:14.12`	`CIA-40`	`players.`
`18:14.26`	`CIA-40`	`03xinhuan * r72202 10Omen/Config.lua: Omen: Fix border/background colors not updating until reloadUI when changing them in the configuration. This is a result of not resetting memoizations for the optionStubs.`
`18:15.02`	`Dashkal`	`<3 xinhuan`
`18:16.48`	`CIA-40`	`03pettigrow * r72203 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: AckisRecipeList: frFR Update`
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`18:17.40`	`CIA-40`	`03xinhuan * r72204 10Omen/Frame.lua:`
`18:17.40`	`CIA-40`	`Omen:`
`18:17.40`	`CIA-40`	`- Revert last commit back to using OnSizeChanged instead of OnUpdate. Infinite loop fault lies with ModuleBase.lua`
`18:17.40`	`CIA-40`	`- Save Omen window width and height into the profiles instead of relying on layout-cache.txt`
`18:17.40`	`CIA-40`	`- Set the scale in Omen:SetAnchors() too, otherwise position could be wrong.`
`18:17.42`	`CIA-40`	`- Resize the bars after updating module layout in Omen:UpdateDisplay(). This fixes labels extending out of the Omen window sometimes.`
`18:18.01`	`rubik`	`Xinhuan is on a roll`
`18:18.06`	`Antiarc`	`Thanks for your help with Omen, Xinhuan`
`18:18.11`	`Antiarc`	`I've been stupidly busy lately :(`
`18:18.21`	`Antiarc`	`I'm really really happy to have community help on the project :)`
`18:18.24`	`Elsia`	`~comfort Antiarc`
`18:18.24`	`purl`	`There, there, Antiarc. It's OK. I'm here for you.`
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`18:18.36`	`CIA-40`	`03xinhuan * r72205 10Omen/ModuleBase.lua:`
`18:18.36`	`CIA-40`	`Omen: Don't hide Omen.BarList or Omen.Anchor when resizing (due to your`
`18:18.36`	`CIA-40`	`options). Hiding either will cause Omen.Grip to disappear and potentially hang`
`18:18.36`	`CIA-40`	`the game client, cause mouse unresponsiveness, or Omen being stickied to your`
`18:18.36`	`CIA-40`	`mouse cursor forever.`
`18:19.16`	`rubik`	`Omen_Cursor! heh`
`18:19.25`	`CIA-40`	`03xinhuan * r72206 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: Resize the bars when changing the configuration of whether to show self and title.`
`18:19.52`	`NivFreak`	`Antiarc: so AoE mode works for me now days, but healer mode showed nothing last night, is there something I need to do to make it functional?`
`18:20.02`	`Antiarc`	`Did you have oRA2 tanks set?`
`18:20.08`	`NivFreak`	`perhaps not last night`
`18:20.14`	`NivFreak`	`so that answers the question`
`18:20.17`	`NivFreak`	`:)`
`18:20.29`	`NivFreak`	`I was just trying it out in a 5 man with a prot pally`
`18:20.42`	`Aiiane_`	`yeah, healer mode uses maintanks`
`18:20.42`	`NivFreak`	`that kept letting me die if I cast CoH`
`18:20.44`	`NivFreak`	`k`
`18:21.00`	`Kalroth`	`Antiaaaaarc!`
`18:21.20`	`Kalroth`	`I've tried to debug Deadenedededed, but with little luck :(`
`18:21.20`	`CIA-40`	`03xinhuan * r72207 10Omen/Omen.lua:`
`18:21.20`	`CIA-40`	`Omen: Register for callbacks on profile changing, copying or resetting. This`
`18:21.20`	`CIA-40`	`actually makes profiles in Omen work, zomg! Add profile change callback function`
`18:21.20`	`CIA-40`	`to reset optionStubs memoizations, update anchors, layout and display.`
`18:21.53`	`Xinhuan`	`hello`
`18:22.08`	`rubik`	`speaking of CoH.. none of our priests spec for that and use it.. was thinking of asking them WTF.. should i?`
`18:22.17`	`NivFreak`	`what content are you in?`
`18:22.17`	`Stanzilla`	`<3 Xinhuan`
`18:22.39`	`NivFreak`	`rubik: t4? t5? t6?`
`18:22.50`	`rubik`	`sorry.. t5.. ssc/tk`
`18:23.00`	`Psycho`	`I've found its useful in more and more encounters the further you get`
`18:23.14`	`Psycho`	`VR is the only fight where I can think of it being highly useful in T5 stuff`
`18:23.15`	`NivFreak`	`yea, around t5 time we found it impossible to pass up`
`18:23.23`	`NivFreak`	`we have our lowest geared priest be the imp DS bitch`
`18:23.27`	`NivFreak`	`and the others are CoH`
`18:23.28`	`AckisWork`	`tidewalker also if you're smart with CoH`
`18:23.43`	`NivFreak`	`leo too`
`18:23.49`	`Xinhuan`	`so uh, any more Omen complaints?`
`18:23.50`	`NivFreak`	`since melee do stupid things`
`18:23.57`	`NivFreak`	`Xinhuan: it killed my mom`
`18:24.00`	`AckisWork`	`Xinhuan: can omen code ARL for me?`
`18:24.02`	`NivFreak`	`and all our warlocks`
`18:24.04`	`Kalroth`	`Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/86948`
`18:24.06`	`Psycho`	`I can't imagine micromanaging leo or tidewalker to the point where CoH was terribly useful.`
`18:24.13`	`Xinhuan`	`if 5 million people use ARL, i'll consider it ^^`
`18:24.16`	`NivFreak`	`Psycho: melee group is really all`
`18:24.20`	`Psycho`	`Ah`
`18:24.22`	`Psycho`	`Well then, sure.`
`18:24.23`	`NivFreak`	`but VR, Solarian`
`18:24.24`	`AckisWork`	`ouch`
`18:24.28`	`NivFreak`	`al'ar at times ;)`
`18:24.36`	`Stanzilla`	`NivFreak: Reiser Threat Meter?`
`18:24.41`	`NivFreak`	`Stanzilla: haha`
`18:24.43`	`AckisWork`	`Xinhuan: just make ARL a dependency of omen... :D`
`18:24.53`	`NivFreak`	`Stanzilla: I don't think we can overload RTM`
`18:24.57`	`rubik`	`ahh ok.. thanks for the CoH advice all`
`18:25.04`	`Stanzilla`	`^^`
`18:25.22`	`Psycho`	`In T6 you'll wonder what you did without it, especially your first few Naj'Entus and Gurtogg kills.`
`18:25.22`	`NivFreak`	`rubik: but really, if you already have one imp DS priest in the raid... why wouldn't the others go CoH`
`18:25.26`	`CIA-40`	`03Shot * r72208 10DoIKnowYou/ (DoIKnowYou.lua Locales/enUS.lua Locales/zhTW.lua):`
`18:25.26`	`CIA-40`	`DoIKnowYou:`
`18:25.26`	`CIA-40`	`- Localisation update for frame texts`
`18:25.44`	`NivFreak`	`Psycho: we're about to head into BT, I was considering having our imp DS priest go CoH as well`
`18:25.44`	`AckisWork`	`Psycho: renew > coh for bloodboil :P`
`18:25.47`	`NivFreak`	`leaving us with 3 of them`
`18:26.03`	`rubik`	`NivFreak: yeah, understood.. however, we have attendance issues (casual guild) so can never count on same healers for all raids`
`18:26.14`	`AckisWork`	`Only fights where CoH is sexy is RoS and Felmyst`
`18:26.23`	`NivFreak`	`so here's the question`
`18:26.31`	`Psycho`	`AckisWork: It doesn't matter.`
`18:26.33`	`NivFreak`	`stack CoH priests or resto shaman in t6`
`18:26.35`	`NivFreak`	`which is better`
`18:26.36`	`Psycho`	`At all.`
`18:26.40`	`NivFreak`	`(buffs aside)`
`18:27.16`	`AckisWork`	`Resto shaman > CoH priest`
`18:27.43`	`AckisWork`	`a priest excels at being able to do everything, and do it well`
`18:28.13`	`Daemona`	`if he speccs for it ;)`
`18:28.14`	`Tornhoof`	`for gurtogg?, resto shaman i'd say`
`18:28.32`	`Xinhuan`	`CoH is sexy in...`
`18:28.36`	`Xinhuan`	`Kalecgos too`
`18:28.47`	`Daemona`	`or felmyst`
`18:28.48`	`Xinhuan`	`and possibly Najentus`
`18:28.50`	`Daemona`	`or brutallus`
`18:28.52`	`Daemona`	`^^`
`18:28.58`	`Tornhoof`	`felmyst is seczy for coh`
`18:29.05`	`Tornhoof`	`brutallus is seczy for resto`
`18:29.07`	`Xinhuan`	`and hella useful at Illidan`
`18:29.16`	`Xinhuan`	`with all those fireballs and flamebursts`
`18:29.18`	`AckisWork`	`Renew >CoH for those fights however`
`18:29.28`	`Kalroth`	`uhm`
`18:29.32`	`Kalroth`	`what? :p`
`18:29.37`	`Tornhoof`	`for felmyst?`
`18:29.38`	`Tornhoof`	`nah`
`18:29.42`	`AckisWork`	`not for felmyst`
`18:29.47`	`Psycho`	`CoH is better HP/S and better mana efficiency so I'm not really sure how you arrive at that conclusion.`
`18:29.52`	`Tornhoof`	`depends on strategy though i guess`
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`18:30.00`	`Kalroth`	`Sunwell is all about raid damage, CoH is by far superior to renew there`
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`18:30.32`	`rubik`	`could use CoH on the stupid hex lord too, i guess`
`18:30.56`	`rubik`	`(we still do ZA when we can get a group-that-doesn't-suck together and we're bored)`
`18:31.19`	`Xinhuan`	`Tasky, i think your threat-2.0 is outdated`
`18:31.55`	`AckisWork`	`kalec is a joke, brut have your resto shaman heal the group, felmyst renew groups to keep the dot off, bounce PoM, and CoH encaps, twins renew and flash spam for raid healing, m'uru renews will be sexy there too although I'll find out tonight for sure`
`18:32.17`	`Tornhoof`	`i like brutallus as an enh shaman, i don't like felmyst though, neither resto nor enh ;)`
`18:32.55`	`AckisWork`	`i love felmyst as a holy priest... i'm the only one who has to do MD's and heal a group/encaps... makes the fight challenging`
`18:33.26`	`Tornhoof`	`dunno we do the dumb heal the encap dmg strategy, apparently too many suck at running`
`18:33.52`	`AckisWork`	`we have 1 healer stand and just heal, and the rest of the group runs`
`18:34.49`	`AckisWork`	`http://wowwebstats.com/ntbj31hfshdmi?s=7069-7620&a=7 that's me on our 1-shot of felmyst`
`18:37.55`	`Daemona`	`yuo use ONE mass dispel caster @ felmyst wtf...`
`18:38.05`	`Daemona`	`... the ease of the fight comes with number of MD`
`18:38.23`	`AckisWork`	`we have 3 MD's...`
`18:43.43`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor * r72209 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (6 files in 4 dirs):`
`18:43.43`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`18:43.43`	`CIA-40`	`- Creating and hiding custom buttons added`
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`18:58.15`	`SunTsu`	`Merl_: As expected: Those files are apparently not loaded`
`18:59.08`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor 07core * r72210 10Cryolysis3/events.lua:`
`18:59.09`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`18:59.09`	`CIA-40`	`- Fixed references to Cryo2`
`19:03.44`	`Arcaia`	`that 3000 rated team`
`19:03.47`	`Arcaia`	`apparently got shutdown`
`19:04.30`	`Arcaia`	`that or armory is superbugged ;P`
`19:04.35`	`Arcaia`	`which isnt a suprise if it is`
`19:05.26`	`Dashkal`	`heh, with the attention they got, their logs were probably picked over with a fine toothed comb`
`19:05.59`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor 07core * r72211 10Cryolysis3/events.lua:`
`19:05.59`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`19:05.59`	`CIA-40`	`- Only update the spheres on UNIT_HEALTH if we're tracking health.`
`19:06.03`	`Vulcanus`	`would be ownage if they got caught cheating`
`19:06.24`	`Dashkal`	`Which appears pretty likely at this point.`
`19:07.34`	`Vulcanus`	`didnt the SS show like 341 wins a week? unless they're really chinese, that seems like a lot`
`19:07.51`	`Vulcanus`	`disregard that`
`19:08.03`	`Vulcanus`	`47 wins`
`19:08.13`	`vhaarr`	`http://bmc.grapz.net/images/hez/gamemaster.jpg - is this common on german servers?`
`19:08.21`	`vhaarr`	`I just got that on the PTR server`
`19:08.42`	`Tornhoof`	`not unheard of vhaarr`
`19:08.49`	`vhaarr`	`I've never seen it before`
`19:08.54`	`Vulcanus`	`It's not possible to be stupid enough to fall for that`
`19:09.01`	`Tornhoof`	`but i think they block those names on live servers`
`19:09.02`	`Vulcanus`	`Not if they turn on their own computers`
`19:09.14`	`Gnarfoz`	`never seen it either, but impersonating Blizzard personnel is likely to get someone a ban :D`
`19:09.27`	`vhaarr`	Tornhoof: note the ` above the 'a' in Gamemaster
`19:09.31`	`Tornhoof`	`yeh`
`19:09.51`	`Tornhoof`	`afaik those names do not work`
`19:09.56`	`vhaarr`	`I'm tempted to send a mail containing fake login information`
`19:10.20`	`Tornhoof`	`just report him`
`19:10.25`	`vhaarr`	`it's the PTR`
`19:10.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`also, whatever URL pattern matcher that is... it sucks :D`
`19:10.30`	`Tornhoof`	`so what`
`19:10.34`	`Lyn_`	`vhaarr, sometimes..`
`19:10.34`	`vhaarr`	`Gnarfoz: yeye`
`19:10.41`	`Tornhoof`	`yeh can still report ppl on the ptr`
`19:11.10`	`vhaarr`	`okay`
`19:12.10`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[21:08] <@vhaarr> http://bmc.grapz.net/images/hez/gamemaster.jpg - is this common on german servers? <--never seen that`
`19:12.32`	`vhaarr`	`I just wondered since I've never seen it myself and this guy obviously is german`
`19:12.39`	`vhaarr`	`I play on english servers`
`19:12.45`	`vhaarr`	`or french, as it were`
`19:13.18`	`Snago`	`lol at the email he expects you to mail your password to. Couldn't even make a fake blizzgm@hotmail.com?`
`19:13.21`	`stew_a`	`what does it say? some form of phishing?`
`19:13.23`	`Lyn_`	`he must have a bad mark in german`
`19:13.25`	`SunTsu`	`vhaarr: Never seen that, too, but doesn't look too unimaginable`
`19:13.33`	`Tornhoof`	`maybe some overtaken account`
`19:14.04`	`vhaarr`	`probably`
`19:14.09`	`SunTsu`	`Tornhoof: With a name like that?`
`19:14.10`	`Vulcanus`	`stew_a: it says that GMs have discovered you're using cheats, send your user and pass to a yahoo email`
`19:14.18`	`stew_a`	`ah`
`19:14.24`	`vhaarr`	`SunTsu: there's a button called "Create character"`
`19:14.48`	`Tornhoof`	`i just can't imagine that someone with a legit account is that dumb`
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`19:15.12`	`AckisWork`	`it's ptr, doesn't really matter...`
`19:15.42`	`SunTsu`	`Tornhoof: Well, I can.`
`19:15.57`	`SunTsu`	`But it's possibly a stolen account, yes`
`19:17.09`	`Tornhoof`	`well ackis, impersonating blizzard employees is against eula even on the ptr ;)`
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`19:19.24`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor 07core * r72212 10Cryolysis3/sphere.lua:`
`19:19.24`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`19:19.24`	`CIA-40`	`- Removed some commented and defunct code`
`19:19.37`	`AckisWork`	`Tornhoof: yes but there's been numerous cases of accounts getting jacked on the ptr and there's no support for those things :P`
`19:20.09`	`Tornhoof`	`i see`
`19:20.41`	`Paene`	`how can I insert an item into a table using a string as it's index...table.insert doesn't seem to like anything but integers for the pos argument`
`19:21.01`	`Vulcanus`	`table[index] = value`
`19:21.06`	`Paene`	`hm...`
`19:21.12`	`Paene`	`that's not working`
`19:21.14`	`Paene`	`for some reason`
`19:21.24`	`Vulcanus`	`it worked for me in the maxranks table`
`19:21.25`	`CIA-40`	`03toadkiller * r72213 10AutoBar/Art/:`
`19:21.25`	`CIA-40`	`AutoBar :`
`19:21.25`	`CIA-40`	`-- Delete drag handle icons`
`19:22.02`	`Dashkal`	`lol. Pidgin finally forks`
`19:22.27`	`Dashkal`	`One too many "We're doing it this way and fuck you if you want an option" situations`
`19:23.12`	`vhaarr`	`name of the fork?`
`19:23.34`	`vhaarr`	`Paene: that's called a keyed table or a map compared to a indexed table, and you can't traverse it the same way`
`19:23.46`	`Dashkal`	`Not mentioned yet. The site got slashdotted`
`19:23.56`	`vhaarr`	`Paene: you use pairs, not ipairs to traverse a keyed table`
`19:24.01`	`Paene`	`http://ace.pastey.net/86949`
`19:24.03`	`Paene`	`right`
`19:24.11`	`Paene`	`but the problem is the list isn't building`
`19:24.16`	`Paene`	`I'm trying to add elements to it`
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`19:24.42`	`Dashkal`	`if you just want to add a new string index to the table, t["foo"] = "bar"`
`19:24.49`	`Paene`	`yeah`
`19:24.53`	`Paene`	`that's what I'm doing`
`19:25.07`	`Dashkal`	`but string indicies aren't ordered`
`19:25.14`	`vhaarr`	`if "bar" is nil, nothing will get added`
`19:25.23`	`vhaarr`	`Cryolysis3.Private.classReagents["Arcane Powder"], for example, could be nil`
`19:25.34`	`vhaarr`	`:HasSpell can fail`
`19:25.43`	`vhaarr`	`:Print doesn't necessarily handle tables`
`19:25.44`	`Vulcanus`	`hasspell cant fail, its true or false`
`19:25.45`	`Paene`	`hm...I've done a /dump on classReagents`
`19:25.58`	`Dashkal`	`if you need it to show up even with no value, use a sentry (such as true or false)`
`19:26.06`	`Dashkal`	`t["foo"] = true`
`19:26.10`	`vhaarr`	`Vulcanus: then it can fail, what the fuck are you talking about`
`19:26.16`	`vhaarr`	`Vulcanus: false = fail`
`19:26.26`	`Paene`	`think he meant it can't return nil`
`19:26.31`	`Vulcanus`	`yes`
`19:26.38`	`vhaarr`	`\|if false then\| will fail`
`19:26.41`	`vhaarr`	`\|if nil then\| will fail`
`19:26.47`	`vhaarr`	`\|if true then\| will NOT fail`
`19:26.49`	`vhaarr`	`so, it can fail`
`19:27.13`	`Arcaia`	`any rogue theorycrafters here`
`19:27.15`	`Arcaia`	`apart from myself`
`19:27.21`	`Odlaw`	`If not fail, then fail anyway`
`19:27.31`	`vhaarr`	`Paene: in any case, the table should be fine, there's something else in your code making it fishy`
`19:27.38`	`Paene`	`kk`
`19:27.42`	`vhaarr`	`Paene: that said, you should probably reconsider a few things`
`19:27.46`	`vhaarr`	`Paene: your code looks horrid`
`19:27.50`	`Paene`	`thanks :D`
`19:28.14`	`EvilJohn`	`funpidgin was the fort`
`19:28.16`	`EvilJohn`	`fork`
`19:28.19`	`vhaarr`	`Paene: surely this is static data, so you should just build tables and put them at the top of the file, instead of building it in a :Get function`
`19:28.30`	`EvilJohn`	`there's a manual plugin that works pretty well`
`19:28.44`	`Paene`	`vhaarr: the idea is to not have the table sitting in memory`
`19:28.49`	`Paene`	`when it's not needed`
`19:28.52`	`vhaarr`	`Paene: the idea stinks`
`19:28.59`	`vhaarr`	`the table is microscopic`
`19:29.00`	`Dashkal`	`Sweet, Lets see if this survives`
`19:29.01`	`Antiarc`	`tables sitting in memory costs nothing`
`19:29.02`	`vhaarr`	`put it in memory`
`19:29.05`	`Dashkal`	`yay open source guildsplits :p`
`19:29.19`	`Antiarc`	`Memory is cheap and plentiful these days, especially when you're talking about maybe a few hundred kb.`
`19:29.38`	`Vulcanus`	`hundred? the reagent list is like less than 8 entries per class`
`19:29.38`	`Vulcanus`	`XD`
`19:29.52`	`Antiarc`	`So it's maybe a couple kb, even more reason to do it.`
`19:29.57`	`Xinhuan`	`he means "a few hundred bytes"`
`19:29.59`	`Vulcanus`	`I tried to tell him :p`
`19:30.16`	`Paene`	`you told me nothing`
`19:30.19`	`Vulcanus`	`lies`
`19:30.20`	`Paene`	`you liar`
`19:30.26`	`Vulcanus`	`I told you to just make a static damn list of reagents`
`19:30.40`	`Vulcanus`	`I HAVE LOGS TO PROVE IT`
`19:30.56`	`Paene`	`there is a static list...defined in each class module`
`19:31.02`	`Paene`	`unless you removed them...`
`19:31.10`	`Vulcanus`	`I didn't touch it :p`
`19:31.17`	`Vulcanus`	`you didnt even commit I think`
`19:31.58`	`Paene`	`I like to make sure my code works before committing...unlike someone else on this project`
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`19:32.27`	`Vulcanus`	`shut up, I always test my shit, those cryo2 references didn't become obvious until you got to work on the reagent module that actulaly used those events`
`19:32.30`	`Vulcanus`	`in short, no u`
`19:32.45`	`CIA-40`	`03xbeeps * r72214 10VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua:`
`19:32.45`	`CIA-40`	`VisualHeal:`
`19:32.45`	`CIA-40`	`- Use the exact same estimation of unit health as PitBull`
`19:33.43`	`NivFreak`	`doom`
`19:33.54`	`Vulcanus`	`& gloom`
`19:33.55`	`Matrix110`	`Zeksie do you know what ZOMGBuffs needs a Pet module in the self buff area!`
`19:34.11`	`Antiarc`	`What's the point of that code? To just build a list of reagents the player can use based on spells available?`
`19:34.49`	`Vulcanus`	`Nar, it's for an auto restocking module and we want to make it so that you only get options to autostock reagents the highest rank of your spells actually use`
`19:34.52`	`Vulcanus`	`if that made sense`
`19:35.09`	`Antiarc`	`Sure`
`19:35.10`	`NivFreak`	`ZOMGBuffs doesn't remember my shadow prot buffs`
`19:35.11`	`NivFreak`	`haha`
`19:35.28`	`NivFreak`	`I should probably look and see why`
`19:36.24`	`Paene`	`Antiarc: yes, it's to build a list of reagents that should be added to the options based on spells known`
`19:36.38`	`Vulcanus`	`but because Blizzard is made of suck and GetSpellName doesn't return global spellID, this forces us to either build a table of spellIDs a class can have (hassle to maintain) or dirty hacks like that, or just offer a list of all reagents that class uses and let the user deal with it themselves`
`19:37.47`	`Dashkal`	`wow, reading the comments on the cache of that pidgin ticket... That is a very very closed project`
`19:38.05`	`Antiarc`	`Spell IDs aren't that much of a pain.`
`19:38.10`	`Antiarc`	`Initial setup is tedious but it's worth it.`
`19:38.31`	`Evandiann`	`is there a way to reorder channels without an addon? i have prat and tried to reorder it that way, but prat keeps taking me out of the nautisync channel`
`19:38.51`	`Paene`	`Antiarc: good luck, I lost that argument :-p`
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`19:40.07`	`Xinhuan`	`Evandiann, /chatwho`
`19:40.14`	`Xinhuan`	`then /join and /leave`
`19:40.15`	`Xinhuan`	`:D`
`19:40.45`	`Evandiann`	`i tried the /leave & /join, but it doesn't save the order`
`19:40.47`	`AnarchyAo`	`xinhuan, it all started with a simple question.....some three hours later, the entire battlegroup has been taken offline :(`
`19:40.58`	`Xinhuan`	`haha`
`19:41.19`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm actually doing omen testing on antiarc's server on my lvl 2 :D`
`19:41.24`	`Antiarc`	`http://pastey.net/86952`
`19:41.27`	`Xinhuan`	`because blackrock is dead`
`19:41.34`	`Xinhuan`	`the last 2 hours zzz`
`19:41.41`	`Xinhuan`	`argent dawn is invaded like mad`
`19:42.00`	`AnarchyAo`	`I keep obsessing over going protection on my paladin for pve`
`19:42.05`	`AnarchyAo`	`ive only ever really done pvp and Im holy`
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`19:42.08`	`AnarchyAo`	`idk what to do`
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`19:42.12`	`dieck`	`I like my calm RP-PvE server. no one bothers coming even if almost all other servers are down ;)`
`19:42.13`	`Xinhuan`	`do it`
`19:42.28`	`AnarchyAo`	`problem is im on a shitty computer, but I like tanking, I did it 60-70 instance grinding on my paladin`
`19:42.35`	`AnarchyAo`	`I could never tank in raids with this computer, but I could for 5 and 10mans`
`19:43.07`	`AnarchyAo`	`I'd give anything to be decked out in that nice badge gear`
`19:43.21`	`sdouble`	`I loved pally tanking, but went holy for pvp at 70`
`19:43.41`	`AnarchyAo`	`yeah same here`
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`19:43.57`	`AnarchyAo`	`I'm thinking maybe I should set up an arena schedule and then the rest of the week just run instances as prot.`
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`19:44.14`	`AnarchyAo`	`it'd be wildly popular because on my server everyone PvPs, so finding tanks is damn near impossible`
`19:44.19`	`*** kick/#wowace [ckknight!n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten] by Kaelten (stop being a dick!)`
`19:44.27`	`Antiarc`	`I respec my rogue for arena and raids. With the money you can make from dailies it's trivial to respec 2x/week`
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`19:44.34`	`ckknight`	`:-(`
`19:44.35`	`Dashkal`	`blinks`
`19:44.35`	`Kaelten`	`:P`
`19:44.38`	`sdouble`	`Showed.`
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`19:45.22`	`dieck`	`Antiarc: our guild tank thinks about leveling a second warrior only so that he can stop speccing :)`
`19:45.31`	`AnarchyAo`	`^`
`19:45.35`	`AnarchyAo`	`Im afraid that'll happen to me`
`19:45.57`	`AnarchyAo`	`I realize that its just a respec, but it's stupid that you have to do like two hours worth of dailies a week just so you can play the game the way you want, when you want.`
`19:46.29`	`Dashkal`	`two hours of dailies a week is less effort than a second character...`
`19:46.32`	`Antiarc`	`If you do the Netherwing mine dailies that's 30g for like 10 minutes of work.`
`19:46.43`	`Xinhuan`	`AnarchyAo, my guild prot pally (he swears by prot for life), lvled his 3rd pally to 70 ~_~`
`19:46.44`	`dieck`	`AnarchyAo: the call for "2 saved specs" is often seen in the suggestions forums`
`19:46.51`	`Xinhuan`	`just to be holy on the 3rd one`
`19:46.54`	`Antiarc`	`The kill the demons SSO daily is like 2.5 seconds and pays out decently`
`19:46.54`	`dieck`	`AnarchyAo: but I think blizz will never do that`
`19:47.03`	`Xinhuan`	`and his first one? he deleted it because dranei > human`
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`19:47.29`	`Antiarc`	`I'm gonna go time myself.`
`19:47.38`	`Xinhuan`	`Dashkal, there are methods to level from 1-70 in 2 days`
`19:47.44`	`Dashkal`	`blinks`
`19:47.45`	`Xinhuan`	`doesn't involve cheating`
`19:47.55`	`Xinhuan`	`only requires a prot pally.. and a mage`
`19:47.58`	`Dashkal`	`ahh`
`19:48.00`	`Dashkal`	`powerleveling`
`19:48.03`	`Xinhuan`	`and the guy to lvl`
`19:48.06`	`dieck`	`powergaming`
`19:48.12`	`dieck`	`boosting in perfection`
`19:48.17`	`Dashkal`	`48 hours of powerleveling is quick, but numbinb`
`19:48.21`	`Dashkal`	`numbing`
`19:48.38`	`EvilJohn`	`yeah`
`19:48.52`	`dieck`	`seems ridiculous most powerleveling service still use bots :)`
`19:48.59`	`EvilJohn`	`I just brought my third character to 70, and the TBC content was pretty harsh`
`19:49.06`	`AnarchyAo`	`Xinhuan`
`19:49.13`	`dieck`	`2 days of chinese child work can't be that expensive :)`
`19:49.14`	`Xinhuan`	`how it works: prot pally grabs entire lowbie instance. runs to instance entrance. twink tags every mob. mage leaves party. prot pally zones out. mage aoes every mob to death without tag. twink gets full exp`
`19:49.16`	`Xinhuan`	`2 levels in 10 minutes`
`19:49.20`	`EvilJohn`	`I leveled a warrior as prot, just to see what it would be like`
`19:49.25`	`AnarchyAo`	`your prot pally friend is very experienced and knowledgeable about going prot as a paladin?`
`19:49.59`	`AnarchyAo`	`I need some advice, the itemization of the new badge loot is confusing. paladin tanking in general seems really odd, because of itemization and the extra stats we need.`
`19:50.00`	`Xinhuan`	`i don't actually know of any sunwell raiding guild that doesn't have a prot pally ;p`
`19:50.23`	`Xinhuan`	`just ask around`
`19:50.47`	`AnarchyAo`	`it seems so debateable that no one has a clear cut define answer, though.`
`19:50.55`	`AnarchyAo`	`and that means I have to figure it out for myself :(`
`19:51.18`	`Xinhuan`	`what is your question?`
`19:51.35`	`AnarchyAo`	`it's just the new badge loot...like, for example:`
`19:52.00`	`AnarchyAo`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33522`
`19:52.06`	`Xinhuan`	`none of the new badge loot is of any real use to a prot pally, as BT/Hyjal alternatives are all better`
`19:52.09`	`AnarchyAo`	`That item makes sense to me, and it does to everyone else that is a prot paladin.`
`19:52.14`	`AnarchyAo`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34945`
`19:52.15`	`AnarchyAo`	`But that?`
`19:52.22`	`Xinhuan`	`the only useful gear from 2.4 for a protpally is the trinket from 3rd boss in Heroic mgt`
`19:52.29`	`AnarchyAo`	`That's 25 more badges, it looks like it should be an upgrade, but it's lacking in so many ways.`
`19:52.38`	`Xinhuan`	`yeah, don't use it`
`19:52.42`	`AnarchyAo`	`well xinhuan that's not eally totally true`
`19:52.44`	`AnarchyAo`	`check these out:`
`19:53.18`	`AnarchyAo`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34946`
`19:53.31`	`Xinhuan`	`my guild's prot pally uses... illidan shield`
`19:53.51`	`Xinhuan`	`the other alternative is.. anetheron's one i think?`
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`19:57.48`	`CIA-40`	`03stormfx * r72215 10ButtonFacade_VoliiMetal/ (8 files in 2 dirs):`
`19:57.48`	`CIA-40`	`ButtonFacade_VoliiMetal:`
`19:57.48`	`CIA-40`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:57.48`	`CIA-40`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:57.48`	`CIA-40`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:57.49`	`CIA-40`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:59.07`	`phyber`	`anyone know which soundfile is played when Kalecgos shouts "Arrrghhh, help me before I lose my mind!!"`
`19:59.29`	`phyber`	`nothing in the patch.MPQ seems to have a name that fits.`
`20:00.17`	`Antiarc`	`It's probably in the english localization mpq`
`20:00.44`	`nevcairiel`	`patch-2.mpq? :D`
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`20:00.58`	`phyber`	`patch-2.mpq was pretty empty. maybe WinMPQ can't read it properly though`
`20:00.58`	`nevcairiel`	`hm too small :)`
`20:01.14`	`nevcairiel`	`should be in patch-enUS.mpq`
`20:01.16`	`nevcairiel`	`or so`
`20:01.22`	`nevcairiel`	`in the enUS dir`
`20:01.26`	`Antiarc`	`speech-enUS.MPQ`
`20:01.28`	`phyber`	`yeah, I just noticed that further in, checking it now :)`
`20:01.31`	`Antiarc`	`try that one`
`20:01.42`	`nevcairiel`	`speech probably doesnt have the patched stuff`
`20:01.53`	`Antiarc`	`yup, dec 06`
`20:03.25`	`CIA-40`	`03Shot * r72216 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua:`
`20:03.25`	`CIA-40`	`DoIKnowYou:`
`20:03.25`	`CIA-40`	`- Oops, ( should be [`
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`20:05.30`	`CIA-40`	`03Shot * r72217 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua:`
`20:05.30`	`CIA-40`	`DoIKnowYou:`
`20:05.30`	`CIA-40`	`- Don't commit a fix while breaking something else.`
`20:05.39`	`AckisWork`	`lol poor shot`
`20:05.42`	`mitch0`	`dumdidum, anothor night-shift`
`20:05.47`	`mitch0`	`another even`
`20:06.38`	`Shot`	`Quite annoyingly, I realised that the broken version with a ( was the one I just uploaded to curse + wowinterface`
`20:07.11`	`phyber`	`bah, I found the sound but can't make it play. ;_;`
`20:07.55`	`Fisker-`	`slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout`
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`20:07.56`	`Fisker-`	`oops`
`20:09.08`	`Antiarc`	`22 minutes of dailies and I'm +57g, I still have half of them left, and I didn't run a very efficient route.`
`20:09.18`	`Antiarc`	`So we're talking maybe 40 minutes/week to respec. :)`
`20:09.27`	`AckisWork`	`dailies are too hard to do :P`
`20:09.42`	`nevcairiel`	`22 minutes and only 57g?`
`20:09.43`	`Fisker-`	`i do like 15 dailies in ~1Â½ hour`
`20:09.47`	`EvilJohn`	`dailes suck the life from my body`
`20:09.53`	`Fisker-`	`but i'm a holy pala :<`
`20:09.55`	`nevcairiel`	`i used to do sunwell complete in 40 minutes`
`20:10.03`	`EvilJohn`	`dailies are the dumbest idea in the history of game design`
`20:10.06`	`AckisWork`	`Only one I do anymore is the fishing one because I want the pets =/`
`20:10.08`	`Antiarc`	`At 48 hours /played to level a character to 70, that means that it'd take 240 weeks to make levelling a second character more efficient than doing dailies.`
`20:10.18`	`Antiarc`	`Dailies killed gold farmers dead.`
`20:10.25`	`Antiarc`	`Which was their purpose.`
`20:10.31`	`Fisker-`	`hah yeah`
`20:10.34`	`Fisker-`	`gold prices are insane`
`20:10.38`	`Shot`	`I love dailies`
`20:10.42`	`EvilJohn`	`"we couldn't actually make professions work, so instead here are two hours of mindless repetition for months on end to feed those of you who don't buy gold."`
`20:10.50`	`Antiarc`	`Err?`
`20:10.53`	`AckisWork`	`lol`
`20:10.56`	`Antiarc`	`Professions trade currency already in the economy`
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`20:11.04`	`Antiarc`	`Dailies put new currency into the economy.`
`20:11.11`	`Antiarc`	`Pretty big difference there.`
`20:11.24`	`EvilJohn`	`no, they put money in the professions who have things worth buying`
`20:11.31`	`Antiarc`	`what?`
`20:11.41`	`EvilJohn`	`and that is not evenly distributed among all professions`
`20:12.00`	`Shot`	`Has anyone done any scale estimations on how much gold, tank hp, mana, +healing/dmg people will have at level 80 yet?`
`20:12.09`	`Dashkal`	`O.o Why would professions need to have av even distribution of cash worth?`
`20:12.19`	`AckisWork`	`IMO a portion of every daily completed should go into the coffers of people who are saved to a sunwell instance :P hides`
`20:12.20`	`Shot`	`Blizz stated they're going to reset itemisation as they did for BC, so there will be a bug jump again`
`20:12.22`	`Antiarc`	`Professions vs dailies is a TOTALLY different discussion`
`20:12.23`	`Shot`	`*big`
`20:12.24`	`EvilJohn`	`forgetting that repetition for the sake repetition is a bad game design mechanic to begin with, the dailies just make the cash generating professions more cash`
`20:12.35`	`Antiarc`	`Dude, what are you babbling about.`
`20:12.35`	`genetik`	`EvilJohn: full bars.`
`20:12.38`	`genetik`	`heh`
`20:12.46`	`EvilJohn`	`and full bars.`
`20:12.56`	`Psycho`	`EvilJohn: Professions are my only consistent source of income as an enchanter. I'd rather they kept them in, thanks.`
`20:13.00`	`Psycho`	`er, dailies`
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`20:13.02`	`Psycho`	`not professions`
`20:13.02`	`Antiarc`	`Dailies give people the ability to generate (create, instantiate, produce) gold that didn't exist before. Professions just cause trade of existing gold between players.`
`20:13.03`	`Psycho`	`durf`
`20:13.03`	`dieck`	`hm. CooldownCount produces laaaaaarge numbers counting down the buff and debuff times on my agUF frames -- is there any way to disable that? wasn't the case until I updated today (last updated a week ago)`
`20:13.05`	`Shot`	`If the value of gold stays roughly the same, and these dailies all still exist when we're level 80 - doing dailies will take very little time :/`
`20:13.15`	`EvilJohn`	`Pyscho: I don't recall advocating their removie, thanks`
`20:13.19`	`EvilJohn`	`removal`
`20:13.24`	`ckknight`	`~cartographer3`
`20:13.25`	`purl`	`cartographer3 is, like, the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523`
`20:13.37`	`Psycho`	`Well, you're certainly whining about them like you want them gone.`
`20:13.45`	`AckisWork`	`why does it work for you Ck and not for me? /sadface`
`20:13.56`	`DarkElf`	`~seen Kemayo`
`20:13.57`	`purl`	`kemayo is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'Toadkiller: Yeah, AuldLangSyne has the disadvantage of regularly being the earliest Ace2 addon on the list. :)'.`
`20:14.02`	`EvilJohn`	`blah, pointless conversation`
`20:14.25`	`Psycho`	`Welcome to IRC =P`
`20:14.33`	`AckisWork`	`aka barrens chat? :P`
`20:14.53`	`EvilJohn`	`I'm familiar with the environment.`
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`20:16.43`	`Shot`	`Does AceLocale-3.0 treat enUS and enGB as the same/`
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`20:16.57`	`Antiarc`	`WoW isn't a zero-sum market. It has "gold sinks" in which currency is destroyed. If currency is destroyed faster than the average player can GENERATE (not earn via trade, but actually create), then you produce an environment like pre-TBC where gold sellers camp chests and Thorium nodes and obtain a near market lock on valuable resources in order to obtain generated gold. When currency is more scarce (and therefore more valuable) than raw`
`20:17.15`	`Dashkal`	`hmm, I'd hope not... US and GB aren't the same. Color/colour, Neighbor/Neighbour, etc`
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`20:18.01`	`Antiarc`	`"free market trade" only works when currency isn't actively bleeding out of the economy at a dizzying rate :P`
`20:18.10`	`Ozguli`	`Antiarc studying such things or just copied that from somewhere?`
`20:18.20`	`Antiarc`	`That's off the top of my head.`
`20:18.24`	`Antiarc`	`econ 101 really :P`
`20:18.46`	`Xinhuan`	`i need 7 more posts`
`20:18.49`	`Xinhuan`	`to reach 1337 posts`
`20:19.29`	`EvilJohn`	`that's an accurate assessment of the failures in the wow economy (I won't go so far as to call it a design). I simple reject that repetition A) A viable healthy game mechanic, and B) the best way to solve the problem.`
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`20:19.59`	`Antiarc`	`Well, obviously Blizzard should just give each character 15k gold upon creation so they don't have to actually do repetitive things to make money :P`
`20:20.04`	`EvilJohn`	`no`
`20:20.07`	`EvilJohn`	`I didnt' say that`
`20:20.13`	`EvilJohn`	`they've made some positive steps`
`20:20.18`	`Antiarc`	`Well, if you don't want repetitive cash gain, you need one big lump gain.`
`20:20.18`	`EvilJohn`	`like making raid cash drops reasonable`
`20:20.32`	`Psycho`	`Xinhuan: I have 5500 posts on my guild's forums. I am a sad person.`
`20:20.33`	`EvilJohn`	`I understand that's still "repetition" to a certain degree`
`20:20.45`	`Xinhuan`	`only?`
`20:20.47`	`EvilJohn`	`that should have been done years and years ago`
`20:20.53`	`Xinhuan`	`i probably have more than that ;p`
`20:21.04`	`Xinhuan`	`if i combined post totals from old forums with new forums`
`20:21.11`	`Psycho`	`We've also switched forums three times now so I'm missing a substantial portion.`
`20:21.12`	`Psycho`	`Yeah.`
`20:21.13`	`Antiarc`	`The simple fact of the matter is that the MMO paradigm by its nature is repetitive.`
`20:21.21`	`Antiarc`	`The degree to which it is masked varies`
`20:21.27`	`Antiarc`	`But it's repetition from day one.`
`20:21.34`	`EvilJohn`	`my opinion is that all the daily quest influx does is give more people epic flying mounts, which is fine since that's what people most need cash for anyway anymore`
`20:21.53`	`EvilJohn`	`yes, I agree Antiarc , but why go out of your way to emphasize that?`
`20:22.04`	`Antiarc`	`Because you're railing against reptiton`
`20:22.08`	`Antiarc`	`It produces more cash in the economy, and makes it easier to spend against fixed costs like respecs.`
`20:22.26`	`Antiarc`	`It does produce higher costs on trade goods due to inflation, but that's easily surmounted due to the ease with which wealth is obtained.`
`20:22.36`	`Psycho`	`Dailies initially made me really irritated because I felt like the first smattering of them were dramatically more difficult if you didn't have an epic flyer, but were put in so that people like me had a way to generate that gold.`
`20:22.47`	`Psycho`	`Catch-22`
`20:23.06`	`Psycho`	`And that's my tangential contribution to this discussion.`
`20:23.08`	`EvilJohn`	`it would better to remove the problem than treat the symptom.... lower the costs of the respec, for instance`
`20:23.12`	`Psycho`	`You can all thank me later =P`
`20:23.15`	`Antiarc`	`The only daily that's harder without an epic mount is the Blade's Edge bombing runs`
`20:23.47`	`Sinaloit`	`well a decent chunk of the original dailies were only accessible if you already had an epic flyer (netherwing area)`
`20:23.49`	`Psycho`	`All of them were dramatically slower at the very least, Antiarc - I guess that's more what I meant. None of them were particularly difficult.`
`20:23.58`	`Antiarc`	`Slower, sure.`
`20:24.08`	`EvilJohn`	`very little of the game is difficult really`
`20:24.17`	`Psycho`	`Hey`
`20:24.17`	`Psycho`	`Hey now`
`20:24.18`	`Psycho`	`HEY`
`20:24.19`	`anti-`	`Everything is difficult until it's easy.`
`20:24.25`	`Psycho`	`Pressing my shadowbolt key is difficult.`
`20:24.31`	`EvilJohn`	`you might blister`
`20:24.34`	`Psycho`	`Exactly`
`20:24.44`	`EvilJohn`	`yeah, I had a mage, same problem`
`20:24.44`	`Psycho`	`What if I need Ben Gay and we're going to hit the enrage timer soon`
`20:24.55`	`EvilJohn`	`now with my SP I press three sometimes four buttons`
`20:25.15`	`Antiarc`	`What's worth considering is that repetitve tasks are good for player retention`
`20:25.16`	`anti-`	`Yeah I guess WOW is pretty easy, good thing everyones riding around on Bear mounts.. oh wait.`
`20:25.19`	`Antiarc`	`It gives people a reason to log in every day.`
`20:25.30`	`Antiarc`	`Which is ultimately directly tied to Blizzard's business strategy.`
`20:25.33`	`DarkElf`	`i wish Blizzard would mark some quests not available after they arent available, i got one called Dearest Colera in quests and everytime i go to find her near the bank she aint there`
`20:25.35`	`EvilJohn`	`anti: I didn't say that either`
`20:26.07`	`EvilJohn`	`Antiarc: Yes, that's true`
`20:26.14`	`EvilJohn`	`though the game is still fairly new`
`20:26.23`	`AnarchyAo`	`I applied to a guild on my holy paladin once, and in the ventrilo interview they asked "So, what's your healing rotation like?" I didn't know how the hell to answer that.`
`20:26.26`	`EvilJohn`	`at some point the players will want Better Wow, not just More Wow`
`20:26.38`	`Antiarc`	`They deliver better WoW with each content patch?`
`20:26.39`	`anti-`	`Flash of light?`
`20:26.50`	`Antiarc`	`But that taeks time and people are fickle and impatient.`
`20:26.56`	`Dashkal`	`Even the bear mount isn't "hard". It requires a certain level of gear, and a certain level of coordination, but no worse than what's required (relitively speaking) to progress between tiers of raiding`
`20:26.57`	`AnarchyAo`	`Well, I thought they were expecting something more then that, so I wasn't sure if I should of said anything.`
`20:26.58`	`anti-`	`Because that should be a holy pallys healing rotation, Flash of Light repeated until key no longer works.`
`20:27.05`	`AnarchyAo`	`lol.`
`20:27.10`	`Dashkal`	`oh, and for people not to afk for 45 mins :p`
`20:27.36`	`EvilJohn`	`I found a ZA 45 minute to be a good challenge, it's only easy when you way over gear the instance`
`20:27.51`	`EvilJohn`	`though, mostly due to some bad play by my guildmates`
`20:28.12`	`Dashkal`	`Now if you want things to be more challenging, you do have the option of intentionally attempting it with less upgraded gear.`
`20:28.17`	`Antiarc`	`I'm now at 41 minutes and +91 gold while chatting on IRC :P`
`20:28.31`	`Dashkal`	`Which would require more player skill to compensate for lesser stats`
`20:28.31`	`Antiarc`	`Hence, I have concluded that a weekly respec cost is pretty darn easy to make :)`
`20:28.42`	`dieck`	`hm, that new CooldownCount really freaks me out`
`20:28.54`	`EvilJohn`	`anyway, I think the more people who play this, the more their relative sophistication will increase. We'll see what WolTK does for some of the core game mechanics. TO blizzard's cired they have shown the ability to get their hands dirty.`
`20:29.10`	`EvilJohn`	`credit, I mean`
`20:29.17`	`dieck`	`can anyone tell me a good alternative to CooldownCount? for showing times on buttons and items?`
`20:29.32`	`anti-`	`Well no more crushing blows in WotLK.. technically Sunwell bosses don't crush either.. and after I spent so much time getitng my pally tank uncrushable..`
`20:29.34`	`EvilJohn`	`I use OmniCC, "good" is a subjective opinion I suppose.`
`20:29.44`	`Antiarc`	`really, they're removing crushes?`
`20:29.48`	`EvilJohn`	`I had not heard that`
`20:29.49`	`Sinaloit`	`What do they do instead of crush?`
`20:29.54`	`Antiarc`	`That really weakens the warrior versus the druid as a main tank.`
`20:29.56`	`Dashkal`	`Of course I'm just playing with words at this point. I could also say that SP gear is "useless" as there isn't a tier above it before LK that will need it :p`
`20:30.05`	`AckisWork`	`anti-: twins crush...`
`20:30.20`	`dieck`	`EvilJohn: I'll have a look. CC projects times on agUF buffs (and debuffs), four times bigger than the buff icons...`
`20:30.29`	`anti-`	`AckisWork: Really? I saw a link on mmo-champion about no crushing mobs in Sunwell + hidden debuff to compensate.`
`20:30.41`	`anti-`	`Theres also a blue post I'll dig up, that states they don't like the crushing mechanic at all`
`20:31.12`	`EvilJohn`	`http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=218.0 ?`
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`20:31.44`	`anti-`	`might have been that`
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`20:32.38`	`CIA-40`	`Recount:`
`20:32.38`	`CIA-40`	`- Increased the space between bar border and font slightly.`
`20:32.38`	`CIA-40`	`- Added very early combatant filter, there should now be no memory and minimal CPU use for combatant events that contain no retainable combatant.`
`20:32.38`	`CIA-40`	`- Improved behavior of data collection filters (global and zone dependent)`
`20:32.38`	`Gnarfoz`	`procrastination SUCKS`
`20:32.42`	`CIA-40`	`- Added safeguards for nil-source healing events.`
`20:32.44`	`CIA-40`	`- Performance improvement when Checking combat.`
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`20:34.09`	`Sinaloit`	`if they get rid of crushing blows what would be the advantage of a warrior tank vs a druid?`
`20:34.11`	`anti-`	`AckisWork, only the melee twin crushes, thats the only mob in the instance that does from what I can find.`
`20:35.33`	`AckisWork`	`anti-: plus there's that buff the mobs get which screw around with your dodge etc :P but yah the one twin crushing causes issues when you get dice rolled`
`20:35.33`	`anti-`	`And partly to compenstate is the Sunwell Radiance, passive -20% dodge and -%5 miss chance from what I understood.`
`20:36.04`	`anti-`	`Sinaloit, theres plenty of other advantages.`
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`20:37.22`	`AckisWork`	`druids > warriors because they can switch out and give me sexy innervates /drool`
`20:37.43`	`Psycho`	`AckisWork: You should figure out how to train life tap =P`
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`20:37.59`	`AckisWork`	`I know how, problem is it turns me into an angel all the time :P`
`20:38.12`	`Lywellyn`	`Undocumented change: New portals for mages? wha?`
`20:38.14`	`Psycho`	`lol`
`20:38.28`	`Dashkal`	`mmm, trying to innervate as a tank :p`
`20:38.34`	`Dashkal`	`Healer oom! InnervSPLAT`
`20:38.38`	`AckisWork`	`lol`
`20:38.42`	`AckisWork`	`there's times it can be done`
`20:39.03`	`AckisWork`	`kalec, brut, felmyst, twins all have times where it's safe to shift`
`20:39.09`	`Dashkal`	`I know, but innervates are often called when the healer is right OOM, meaning as a tank I have to find such a moment quickly`
`20:39.09`	`Sinaloit`	`new ports to Stonard/Theramore`
`20:39.36`	`AckisWork`	`true enough`
`20:39.40`	`Dashkal`	`I'm trying to train my healers to ask before it's absolultely critical. It's not like innervate is costing me anything but a cooldown`
`20:39.57`	`AckisWork`	`our feral druid is pro-active`
`20:40.03`	`Chompers`	`would be nice if warriors could tank/dps like a druid`
`20:40.41`	`Dashkal`	`The healers usually call out when they need it. I have no idea when that paladin is really OOM and when they're about to pot`
`20:40.50`	`Lywellyn`	`Sinaloit: Just seems like it destroys the inherent point of portals/teleports. Was usually only for capital cities.`
`20:40.51`	`Dashkal`	`and when tanking I'm not watching their mana anyway`
`20:41.29`	`Dashkal`	`Lywellyn: The idea is to give mages a port to the "blacked out" area of the map. The middle of the less populated continent`
`20:41.56`	`AckisWork`	`I meant pro-active as he knows when I'll need mana on the fights that I get innervates on (ie: felmyst during the second air phase I need one if I'm doing MD's and group healing)`
`20:41.57`	`Dashkal`	`Alli mages even have a damn good excuse: Theramore is run by one of the most powerful surviving mages in azeroth`
`20:42.16`	`Lywellyn`	`Ah yeah, that's true.`
`20:42.26`	`Lywellyn`	`Good ol' Jaina, if memory serves?`
`20:42.30`	`Dashkal`	`yep yep`
`20:42.32`	`EvilJohn`	`is that confirmed?`
`20:42.46`	`Dashkal`	`EvilJohn: Not that I've seen (and I'm not on the PTR to check)`
`20:42.56`	`EvilJohn`	`it would be cool`
`20:43.08`	`Dashkal`	`afaik it's there on the PTR but hasn't been confirmed for 2.4.2`
`20:43.10`	`EvilJohn`	`i have my mage's hearth set to Gadget, since there's no close port`
`20:43.40`	`Lywellyn`	`EvilJohn: It's one of the confirmed but not documented changes on WoWWiki`
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`20:43.42`	`CIA-40`	`GridStatusControlPipes:`
`20:43.42`	`CIA-40`	`- added "in combat"-dependent control to pipes`
`20:43.55`	`EvilJohn`	`hm`
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`20:53.36`	`anti-`	`Are the ports actually there? or is just the spell in-game.`
`20:53.49`	`anti-`	`Last I heard the spell was there, but they didn't know if it was used in a quest, part of an actual portal, or something else.`
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`20:54.37`	`EvilJohn`	`spell, I haven't heard anything that makes it player trainable`
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`21:06.47`	`CIA-40`	`Poppins:`
`21:06.47`	`CIA-40`	`- When you "snap" frames together they will drag as a group.`
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`21:11.18`	`CIA-40`	`LibHealComm-3.0:`
`21:11.18`	`CIA-40`	`- Make the library initialise properly when loaded on-demand (if embedded in an addon that is load-on-demand).`
`21:11.18`	`CIA-40`	`03paene * r72223 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (5 files in 4 dirs):`
`21:11.18`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`21:11.19`	`CIA-40`	`- More work on reagent restocking`
`21:11.23`	`CIA-40`	`- Recoded CacheSpells()`
`21:11.39`	`NivFreak`	`god, the armory sucks today`
`21:11.48`	`anti-`	`s/today/everyday/g;`
`21:12.06`	`NivFreak`	`I like the new method of failure better though`
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`21:16.54`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor * r72224 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (4 files in 3 dirs):`
`21:16.54`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`21:16.54`	`CIA-40`	`- Hiding the main sphere now works`
`21:24.02`	`NivFreak`	`wow`
`21:24.04`	`NivFreak`	`servers are fubar`
`21:24.07`	`NivFreak`	`blizzard fails`
`21:24.18`	`Zeksie`	`Matrix110: yeah, possibly. but i don't play a pet class atm, so beyond feeding hunter pet. what else?`
`21:24.31`	`Matrix110`	`no`
`21:24.33`	`Matrix110`	`hunter pets fail`
`21:24.38`	`Matrix110`	`Non combat pets!`
`21:24.41`	`Matrix110`	`they are important`
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`21:31.19`	`Hjalte`	`Elsia: Using the version just before the last update, I experienced someone missing from my Recount as well today. I joined late.`
`21:31.42`	`Elsia`	`hmm`
`21:32.11`	`Elsia`	`didn't fix anything related to that i fear, still have no clue what causes that`
`21:32.15`	`Hjalte`	`Woah. Parrot is giving me tons of errors when I logged in just now.`
`21:32.23`	`AckisWork`	`give it a cracker`
`21:32.50`	`Matrix110`	`btw Elsia so far I didnt get the "UpdateTitle" bug again`
`21:32.59`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor * r72225 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (4 files in 4 dirs):`
`21:32.59`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`21:32.59`	`CIA-40`	`- Fixed spell cache hopefully`
`21:33.13`	`Elsia`	`max: great, yeah that one did get a fix.`
`21:33.58`	`Hjalte`	`Elsia: Might be of some interest: It seems the people that I missed today, did all have Recount. I'm not 100%, but it could seem like it.`
`21:34.33`	`Elsia`	`it may have to do with syncing actually, maybe if the first combatant event is sync. I'll check out that possiblity`
`21:35.02`	`CIA-40`	`03julith * r72226 10GridStatusControlPipes/ (GridStatusControlPipes.lua GridStatusControlPipes.toc):`
`21:35.02`	`CIA-40`	`GridStatusControlPipes:`
`21:35.02`	`CIA-40`	`- typo and toc-update`
`21:40.03`	`AckisWork`	`does anyone have experience with data mining scripts? If so, how difficult are they overall? (datamining wowdb/wowhead for example)`
`21:40.22`	`nevcairiel`	`not that difficult really`
`21:40.30`	`vhaarr`	`AckisWork: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibPeriodicTable-3.1/dataminer.lua`
`21:40.32`	`nevcairiel`	`just pick a scripting language of your choice`
`21:40.58`	`nevcairiel`	`thats a rather complex one :P`
`21:41.15`	`AnarchyAo`	`are you all able to play just fine?`
`21:41.18`	`AckisWork`	`lol yes... rofl`
`21:41.24`	`vhaarr`	`I'm pretty sure PT3 has what AckisWork needs already`
`21:41.37`	`CIA-40`	`03julith * r72227 10GridStatusHostileUnit/ (. GridStatusHostileUnit.toc embeds.xml):`
`21:41.37`	`CIA-40`	`GridStatusHostileUnit:`
`21:41.37`	`CIA-40`	`- removed "AceLibrary" from externals`
`21:41.37`	`CIA-40`	`- removed "embeds.xml"`
`21:41.37`	`CIA-40`	`- fixed typos in toc-file`
`21:42.03`	`AckisWork`	`I think you're correct Vhaarr`
`21:43.46`	`AckisWork`	`long story short, due to the multitude of requests for item links I wanted a "lazy mans" way to update my lua file with spellIDs to also include itemIDs, I'll look at that script`
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`21:45.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`where the HELL do you edit/declare variables in adobe flash? i never used it and only need to hardcode 2 variables >.>`
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`21:47.15`	`gregor1`	`good evening everyone`
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`21:47.54`	`gregor1`	`i know this is more ace chan, but anyways... anyone else had problems some time, that, when login screen showed, there were no username or password fields?`
`21:48.13`	`vhaarr`	`sag_ich_nicht: err, you mean actionscript?`
`21:49.46`	`CIA-40`	`03Sorata * r72228 10Poppins/ (Frames.lua PopButtons.lua Poppins.lua):`
`21:49.46`	`CIA-40`	`Poppins:`
`21:49.46`	`CIA-40`	`- Buttons are now always above popup buttons.`
`21:49.46`	`CIA-40`	`- Buttons now show which buttons they are anchored to.`
`21:50.27`	`CIA-40`	`03paene 07modules * r72229 10Cryolysis3/reagents/reagents.lua:`
`21:50.27`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`21:50.27`	`CIA-40`	`- Removed debugging code`
`21:51.39`	ag`	`pastamancer, you here?`
`21:51.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`vhaarr: yeah`
`21:51.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i can't find out where to edit the script which is really bad UI design imho >(`
`21:52.09`	`vhaarr`	`var test = 5; ?`
`21:52.15`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yeah stuff like that`
`21:52.18`	`vhaarr`	`oh, eh, you're struggling with the actual UI`
`21:52.22`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`YES`
`21:52.23`	`vhaarr`	`well I've never used their editor`
`21:52.36`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`cry`
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`21:53.00`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`[23:52] <@vhaarr> oh, eh, you're struggling with the actual UI <--thus i said where, not how`
`21:53.26`	`vhaarr`	`how should I know your english is actually comprehensible compared to the average internet-goer`
`21:53.32`	`CIA-40`	`03Sorata * r72230 10Poppins/PopButtons.lua:`
`21:53.32`	`CIA-40`	`Poppins:`
`21:53.32`	`CIA-40`	`- Middle clicking a popup button now sets without casting`
`21:53.56`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`facepalm`
`21:54.28`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`o`
`21:54.30`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`found it i think`
`21:54.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`yeeessssssssss`
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`21:54.51`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`window/actions`
`21:54.55`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`they should call it ACTIONSCRIPT`
`21:54.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`not ACTIONS`
`21:54.59`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`christ`
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`21:57.35`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor 07classes * r72231 10Cryolysis3/mage/mage.lua:`
`21:57.35`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`21:57.35`	`CIA-40`	`- Mana display/update on sphere for Mages now works`
`22:00.34`	`Lywellyn`	`Question: Using the new blizzard Addon configuration menu, is it normal that it does not save a variable that matches an addon's registered default?`
`22:00.46`	`Vulcanus`	`yes`
`22:00.55`	`Lywellyn`	`That explains that then.`
`22:01.17`	`Vulcanus`	`and if you change it to another value (different option selected) and reload, then change it back to default and reload, it will remove it from the SV file`
`22:01.49`	`Lywellyn`	`awesome. That's exactly what it was doing. Good to know that's normal. :D`
`22:02.03`	`Vulcanus`	`:) memory efficient too, it's a nice feature`
`22:02.23`	`CIA-40`	`03apoco 07v2 * r72232 10RBM/RBM_Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: RBM_Sunwell: Felmyst AddTimer Bugfix.`
`22:03.35`	`sb`	`Antiarc: already working on uf projekt? ;)`
`22:03.35`	`sb`	`project`
`22:03.35`	`CIA-40`	`03julith * r72233 10GoodTarget/ (. GoodTarget.lua GoodTarget.toc):`
`22:03.35`	`CIA-40`	`GoodTarget:`
`22:03.35`	`CIA-40`	`- some code cleanup`
`22:03.35`	`CIA-40`	`- updated toc version to 20400`
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`22:05.21`	`Apoco`	`hm`
`22:06.35`	`CIA-40`	`03apoco 07v2 * r72234 10RBM/RBM_DrumWatch/DrumWatch.lua: RBM_DrumWatch: Localization Fix`
`22:06.41`	`Apoco`	`2m late >_>`
`22:07.58`	`CIA-40`	`03seppyk * r72235 10HeadCount/CHANGELOG.txt:`
`22:07.58`	`CIA-40`	`HeadCount:`
`22:07.58`	`CIA-40`	`- Added change log`
`22:09.39`	`CIA-40`	`03apoco 07v2 * r72236 10RBM/RBM_Config/ (Config.lua Locales/enUS.lua RBM_Config.toc):`
`22:09.39`	`CIA-40`	`RBM_Config: Localization Update, themes working properly, profiles are now in`
`22:09.39`	`CIA-40`	`the options menu (when you select a new profile that has bars, you will need to`
`22:09.39`	`CIA-40`	`select it, select a different profile, then reselect it for it to position`
`22:09.39`	`CIA-40`	`properly.)`
`22:09.42`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, did you read my message of this morning?`
`22:09.48`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: no`
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`22:10.47`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, oRA is sending RESNO on SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED. CTRA is not`
`22:11.12`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, librescomm is sending RESYES on SUCCEEDED atm`
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`22:11.28`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: I have not studied the protocol, I have no idea what that means -- if oRA2 is wrong, please just fix it.`
`22:11.34`	`vhaarr`	`if oRA2 is right, ignore CTRA.`
`22:11.54`	`Xan3`	`it's my impression or timers of BW for lurker are wrong?`
`22:12.19`	VonhintenHOME`	`I've been having timer issues across the board lately`
`22:12.22`	`Polleke`	`I don't think there is an official spec for the protocol. But sending RESNO on SUCCEEDED makes no sense`
`22:12.37`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: are you sure? surely the res spell has finished casting then`
`22:12.52`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: which means that those people should be removed from the res monitor`
`22:13.24`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, well then you can't rely on RESNO being a cancel of a res`
`22:13.38`	`vhaarr`	`why is that?`
`22:13.43`	`CIA-40`	`03Lywellyn * r72237 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua):`
`22:13.43`	`CIA-40`	`AckisRecipeList:`
`22:13.43`	`CIA-40`	`- Fixed sorting dropdown in configuration menu. You can now sort by recipe name or the recipe's skill level (the skill level being default)`
`22:13.50`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, becase it could mean a res was completed aswell`
`22:14.05`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: what we're interested in is the state, not why it ended up in that state`
`22:14.14`	`nevcairiel`	`from what i see, there isnt even a RESYES`
`22:14.19`	`vhaarr`	`indeed there is not`
`22:14.20`	`nevcairiel`	`at least there is no mention in oRA`
`22:14.38`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: either you are (1) dead with a res available, (2) dead with no res available or (3) dead with a res incoming`
`22:14.43`	`vhaarr`	`those are the 3 states we care about`
`22:14.45`	`nevcairiel`	`RES is send when the spell starts`
`22:14.52`	`vhaarr`	`that's 3`
`22:14.52`	`nevcairiel`	`RESNO when its cancelled or finished`
`22:15.16`	`hydrogen`	`RESMEBBE`
`22:15.16`	`Polleke`	`no RESYES is not in oRA. But I would like to add it`
`22:15.23`	`vhaarr`	`why`
`22:15.23`	`CIA-40`	`03apoco 07v2 * r72238 10RBM/RBM/ (9 files in 4 dirs):`
`22:15.23`	`CIA-40`	`RBM: Profiles & Themes are now enabled and working. See RBM_Config Commit note for Profile bug.`
`22:15.23`	`CIA-40`	`- Bars are now defaulted to unfiltered.`
`22:15.23`	`CIA-40`	`- Localization Update`
`22:15.24`	`CIA-40`	`- De\|BuffWatch: Added Sticky Bars Option`
`22:15.27`	`CIA-40`	`-- Bump to RC1`
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`22:15.45`	`nevcairiel`	`If the RES was successfull, you get a RESSED from the person in question`
`22:15.51`	`nevcairiel`	`so why a resyes?`
`22:16.10`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, and a RESNO from the person who casted. Which causes confussing messages based on lag`
`22:16.21`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, say you want to make a grid status addon`
`22:17.00`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, you receive a RESSED and a RESNO, you have to prioritize the RESSED. It's not elegant`
`22:17.19`	`nevcairiel`	`you want to break protocol because you think its not ellegant? =P`
`22:17.54`	`Polleke`	`I'm not breaking it, there is no official spec on it AFAIK. CTRA doesnt send RESNO on SUCCEEDED`
`22:18.10`	`nevcairiel`	`The RESNO can be used to clear the entry from the resurrection monitor`
`22:18.19`	`vhaarr`	`that's what I said`
`22:18.21`	`vhaarr`	`and what we do now`
`22:18.28`	`nevcairiel`	`and RESSED to show who was ressed afterwards`
`22:18.32`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont see any problems`
`22:19.11`	`Polleke`	`there is... I can't remember it atm, because I got 10 people talking on vent`
`22:19.33`	`CIA-40`	`03apoco 07v2 * r72239 10RBM/RBM_PvPWatch/ (. RBM_PvPWatch.lua RBM_PvPWatch.toc): RBM_PvPWatch: Initial Commit.`
`22:19.42`	`nevcairiel`	`from my point of view, if you change the protocol now, you break it for clients of older and newer oRA`
`22:19.57`	`nevcairiel`	`and just for ellegance, i wouldnt allow it =P`
`22:21.22`	`nocts`	`http://www.tmz.com/2008/04/23/teen-popped-for-pimpin-out-gangsta-granny/`
`22:21.22`	`CIA-40`	`03apoco 07v2 * r72240 10RBM/RBM_Hyjal/ (Archimonde.lua RBM_Hyjal.toc): RBM_Hyjal: Archimonde Fix`
`22:21.58`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: you should replicate oRA2's behavoir, unless you can present a good reason to deviate from it`
`22:21.58`	`Lywellyn`	`Anyone versed in mIRC scripting?`
`22:22.01`	`vhaarr`	`but I don't think you can`
`22:22.26`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: the first step would be to document the protocol as best you can, starting by reading the CTRA implementation and then overlaying the oRA2 one`
`22:22.48`	`Industrial`	`Can anyone point me to the honor pvp sets added in 2.4 on wowhead?`
`22:22.49`	`Ellipsis`	`Lywellyn: sadly, a bit`
`22:22.52`	`Industrial`	`im BLIND or its not on there`
`22:22.59`	`Industrial`	`I bet BLIND`
`22:23.06`	`Lywellyn`	`Ellipsis: why sadly? :o`
`22:23.14`	`Ellipsis`	`because it's a terrible thing`
`22:23.15`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, something that does need to be fixed in ora2 is that the commsend should be done on CAST_START and not CAST_SENT so we can accurate reading from castinginfo()`
`22:23.23`	`Lywellyn`	`mIRC, or the scripting?`
`22:23.26`	`Industrial`	`both`
`22:23.28`	`Ellipsis`	`well, both`
`22:23.30`	`Lywellyn`	`;_;`
`22:23.31`	`Ellipsis`	`but I use both, so :<`
`22:23.42`	`Polleke`	`vhaarr, you planning on using librescomm in the end, or sticking with how it is right now?`
`22:23.42`	`Lywellyn`	`I....I like mIRC :(`
`22:23.45`	`nevcairiel`	`cast_start doesnt get you target info`
`22:24.03`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, thats why you store that from cast_sent`
`22:24.18`	`Lywellyn`	`Anyways, there used to be a way to highlight the CIA lines so you could copy them to a new window and have aw indow with just commit logs. THis was before the CIA channel.`
`22:24.21`	`nevcairiel`	`why not just use _sent? o.O`
`22:24.23`	`Industrial`	`Ellipsis: any idea on the armorset :\|?`
`22:24.27`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: you mean like http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35333 ?`
`22:24.33`	`Lywellyn`	`I wish to do that again, but with any line with my name in it.`
`22:24.36`	`vhaarr`	`Polleke: I'll use the library if it becomes usable`
`22:25.02`	`CIA-40`	`03paene 07core * r72241 10Cryolysis3/buttons.lua:`
`22:25.02`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`22:25.02`	`CIA-40`	`- Created a wrapper function for SetAttribute to make life easier.`
`22:25.04`	`nevcairiel`	`meh the rez code is like 10 lines in oRA`
`22:25.05`	`Industrial`	`yess vhaarr thanks`
`22:25.07`	`nevcairiel`	`why bother =P`
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`22:25.28`	`durcyn`	`because everything must be a pointless library`
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`22:25.54`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, because then a receiver of the comm message will get a false from UnitCastingInfo() because spell_sent is fired when the message is sent to the server. And spell_start when it is confirmed by the server`
`22:26.02`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, it's a latency thing`
`22:26.16`	`Ellipsis`	`Industrial: you're asking me about pvp stuff? gtfo`
`22:26.18`	`nevcairiel`	`so?`
`22:26.27`	`nevcairiel`	`why exactly do i need UnitCastingInfo()?`
`22:26.28`	`Ellipsis`	`Lywellyn: it should be pretty simple`
`22:26.34`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, for an accurate endtime`
`22:26.49`	`nevcairiel`	`implementation issue on your end`
`22:28.03`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, no. It's just stupid if you would need to use a timer to check castinginfo a second later because you can't implent that 2 line fix`
`22:28.04`	`CIA-40`	`03paene 07core * r72242 10Cryolysis3/buttons.lua:`
`22:28.04`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`22:28.04`	`CIA-40`	`- syntax error no more!`
`22:28.11`	`CIA-40`	`03apoco 07v2 * r72243 10RBM/RBM/Core.lua: RBM: Version Bump to 2.0RC1`
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`22:28.26`	`CIA-40`	`03danielbarron * r72244 10RaidBuffStatus/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua RaidBuffStatus.toc ReadMe.txt):`
`22:28.26`	`CIA-40`	`RaidBuffStatus:`
`22:28.26`	`CIA-40`	`- Added options window which allows you to configure which buffs to check and when.`
`22:29.08`	`nevcairiel`	`People need to learn to code with what they have, and not try to adjust everything so their god damn stuff works for them`
`22:29.58`	`CIA-40`	`03paene 07core * r72245 10Cryolysis3/buttons.lua:`
`22:29.58`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`22:29.58`	`CIA-40`	`- small change because Vulcanus/Belazor is a whiney little...ahem...`
`22:30.15`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, it's also wrong to send a message on spell_sent because the server might deny the cast, it isnt confirmed yet`
`22:30.55`	`nevcairiel`	`so you get a failed back, and the protcol sends a RESNO`
`22:31.04`	`Ellipsis`	`Lywellyn: just do something like: on :text::#:{ if ($nick iswm CIA-*) { echo @CIA $1- } }`
`22:31.08`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, it doesnt break backwards compability in any way`
`22:31.18`	`nevcairiel`	`thats not the point`
`22:32.11`	`Polleke`	`the point is that the person who wrote this code wasnt aware of this being the case. Why not fix it?`
`22:32.14`	`Gagorian`	`Ellipsis Lywellyn http://pastey.net/86966`
`22:32.26`	`hydrogen`	`Ellipsis: overdone conditionals is overdone`
`22:32.44`	`hydrogen`	`I'm pretty sure you can replace one of the *'s with a pattern`
`22:32.51`	`hydrogen`	`but havn't mirc'd in a while, thankfully`
`22:32.56`	`Ellipsis`	`um`
`22:33.06`	`Ellipsis`	`the first * is access level, the second is match text`
`22:33.18`	`Ellipsis`	`you can't guarantee any particular thing will be in CIA's messages`
`22:33.30`	`Lywellyn`	`How do I modify that so that it matches my name in any chat message, then copies it to the new window?`
`22:33.31`	`hydrogen`	`hmm`
`22:33.32`	`hydrogen`	`true`
`22:33.42`	`Chaud`	`Ackis!`
`22:33.43`	`hydrogen`	`as I said, I havn't used mirc in a long time`
`22:33.48`	`hydrogen`	`and its been very good`
`22:33.59`	`Killmore`	`any other have error with parrot ?`
`22:34.11`	`Killmore`	`[2008/04/30 18:16:21-848-x1]: Parrot-r71318\Code\TriggerConditions.lua:225: 'then' expected near '='`
`22:34.19`	`hydrogen`	`Lywellyn: why not just join #wowace-cia though?`
`22:34.19`	`Lywellyn`	`Chaud: Ackis is on his way home from work :p`
`22:34.32`	`Chaud`	`What a baddie =\`
`22:34.37`	`Chaud`	`I need him to write me a new addon`
`22:34.43`	`Ellipsis`	`Lywellyn: change it to on :text:$me*:#:{ echo @highlight $nick : $1- }`
`22:34.45`	`Ellipsis`	`or something`
`22:34.56`	`Lywellyn`	`hydrogen: sigh I used that as an example. That's not what I want.`
`22:34.56`	`CIA-40`	`03Ganders * r72246 10NinjaYell/ (. NinjaYell.toc core.lua): NinjaYell: Initial commit`
`22:35.04`	`hydrogen`	`Lywellyn: ah :)`
`22:35.34`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, if I won't complain about RESNO anymore, can we fix this castinginfo() issue :))`
`22:35.41`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`http://www.physorg.com/news128786808.html oh god oh god oh god THE IMPLICATIONS`
`22:35.57`	`Ellipsis`	`sag_ich_nicht: that's what SHE said`
`22:36.11`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`Ellipsis: if she was an EE, sure`
`22:36.27`	`Lywellyn`	`Test: Lywellyn`
`22:36.29`	`Ellipsis`	`maybe she's into that`
`22:36.34`	`Lywellyn`	`or not.`
`22:36.35`	`Ellipsis`	`Lywellyn: you can't trigger it yourself`
`22:36.37`	`Ellipsis`	`did that work?`
`22:36.41`	`Lywellyn`	`No. ;_;`
`22:36.46`	`Polleke`	`nevcairiel, it's just that having to use OnUpdate for this is so ugly it's not funny anymore`
`22:36.50`	`Ellipsis`	`you may have to do /window @highlight`
`22:36.52`	`Ellipsis`	`to open it`
`22:37.04`	`Ellipsis`	`before the messages can be printed there`
`22:37.06`	`Lywellyn`	`Okay`
`22:37.42`	`Paene`	`hm...CIA didn't catch that commit...`
`22:37.48`	`Lywellyn`	`wait for it`
`22:37.53`	`Lywellyn`	`it's delayed for some reason`
`22:37.57`	`Paene`	`ah ic`
`22:38.27`	`CIA-40`	`03paene 07core * r72247 10Cryolysis3/buttons.lua:`
`22:38.27`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`22:38.27`	`CIA-40`	`- Fixed more syntax errors`
`22:38.27`	`CIA-40`	`- Changed SetAttribute calls to be localized automatically for us when passing itemIDs or spellIDs`
`22:38.30`	`Paene`	`there it is`
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`22:38.58`	`Lywellyn`	`say my name! :o lol`
`22:39.07`	`Ellipsis`	`Lywellyn`
`22:39.19`	`Lywellyn`	`so dirty. but it didn't work.`
`22:39.30`	`Lywellyn`	`I put it in the script editor under remote, right? >.>`
`22:40.19`	`Ellipsis`	`hrm`
`22:40.23`	`Ellipsis`	`try changing echo to aline`
`22:40.37`	`Chaud`	`Ellipsis write me a new addon`
`22:40.40`	`Ellipsis`	`no u`
`22:40.50`	`Lywellyn`	`Done`
`22:40.52`	`Chaud`	`select a picture from dropdown, output to raid chat`
`22:40.56`	`Chaud`	`add the raid icon art`
`22:41.00`	`Chaud`	`really easy! =p`
`22:41.12`	`CIA-40`	`03parnic * r72248 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua:`
`22:41.12`	`CIA-40`	`IceHUD:`
`22:41.12`	`CIA-40`	`- allow horizontal positioning of the TargetInfo module`
`22:42.06`	`Ellipsis`	`Lywellyn: test`
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`22:42.16`	`Lywellyn`	`no :3`
`22:42.18`	`Ellipsis`	`Chaud: what's the point of that?`
`22:42.24`	`Ellipsis`	`bah, why do I fail :(`
`22:42.27`	`Chaud`	`to annoy people!`
`22:42.37`	`Chaud`	`much easier than pressing several macros`
`22:44.08`	VonhintenHOME`	`I fucking hate terocone`
`22:44.33`	`smoke_`	`gif2ans a jpg`
`22:44.40`	`smoke_`	`then save it to a temp file w/ no color`
`22:44.41`	`Chaud`	`that flower that no one will buy ? =(`
`22:44.46`	`smoke_`	`and u can output it in raid chat!`
`22:44.58`	`Gagorian`	`Lywellyn: http://pastey.net/86967`
`22:45.21`	VonhintenHOME`	`probably because people charge like 2g per for it.. and I can't find any out in the open`
`22:45.23`	`Lywellyn`	`Gagorian: I'll see that when IE finallyl oads it. ;_;`
`22:45.47`	`Chaud`	`I bought some at like 10% market price and they havent sold in 24 hrs =\`
`22:45.52`	`Chaud`	`they are the cheapest ones up too`
`22:46.17`	VonhintenHOME`	`definitely not like that on my server`
`22:46.35`	`Ellipsis`	`Gagorian: that won't work`
`22:46.44`	`Ellipsis`	`$nick is who said it`
`22:46.45`	`Chaud`	`we had free xfers off just a few weeks ago, and there is next to no AH demand`
`22:46.50`	VonhintenHOME`	`I can't even farm them in the dead of night anymore... too many farmers`
`22:46.53`	`Gagorian`	`Ellipsis: True`
`22:46.55`	`Gagorian`	`:D`
`22:46.58`	`Zhinjio`	`hugs Ellipsis`
`22:47.04`	`Ellipsis`	`licks Zhinjio nervously`
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`22:47.12`	`CIA-40`	`03rabbit * r72249 10LibBanzai-2.0/LibBanzai-2.0.lua: LibBanzai-2.0: Support "focus".`
`22:47.15`	`Chaud`	`so few goods move through our AH`
`22:47.21`	`Zhinjio`	`what are you nervous about?`
`22:47.21`	`hydrogen`	VonhintenHOME`: 65g/stack for it on our server...
`22:47.23`	`Chaud`	`the cheapest Primal life has been up all day =\`
`22:47.27`	`Ellipsis`	`moving day :P`
`22:47.34`	`Zhinjio`	`aha!`
`22:47.37`	VonhintenHOME`	`hydro, lol, that's even nuttier than our prices`
`22:47.39`	`Zhinjio`	`I'm sure everything will go fine.`
`22:47.43`	`Gagorian`	`Ellipsis Lywellyn: http://pastey.net/86968`
`22:47.43`	`CIA-40`	`03profalbert * r72250 10Parrot/Code/TriggerConditions.lua:`
`22:47.43`	`CIA-40`	`Parrot:`
`22:47.43`	`CIA-40`	`- fixed stupid error (oops)`
`22:47.46`	`Gagorian`	`that then!`
`22:47.58`	`Ellipsis`	`that would probably work`
`22:48.06`	`Chaud`	`our primal air is 40g, fel lotus 40g`
`22:48.08`	`Ellipsis`	`better to do it in the text match itself though`
`22:48.25`	`Gagorian`	`Perhaps, doesn't matter that much`
`22:48.34`	`Gagorian`	`Unless you want other scripts for the same channel`
`22:49.07`	`Ellipsis`	`on :text:Lywellyn*:#: { window @Me \| aline -p $nick : $1- }`
`22:49.17`	`CIA-40`	`03parnic * r72251 10IceHUD/IceBarElement.lua:`
`22:49.17`	`CIA-40`	`IceHUD:`
`22:49.17`	`CIA-40`	`- added width scaling to individual bars`
`22:49.19`	VonhintenHOME`	`I have fel lotus sitting in my bank, but every flask takes 7 terocone.. which is the bane of my existence =P`
`22:49.21`	`Ellipsis`	`more efficient than yours, and actually shows WHO said it, not just what was said :P`
`22:49.34`	`NivFreak`	VonhintenHOME`: man, those are easy to get ;P
`22:49.36`	`Ellipsis`	`er, but I forgot the @Me in the aline`
`22:49.37`	`Ellipsis`	`facepalms`
`22:49.44`	`Kemayo`	`DarkElf: Yeees?`
`22:50.07`	`*** part/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@91-113-19-69.adsl.highway.telekom.at)`
`22:50.24`	`Lywellyn`	`@Me goes after aline?`
`22:50.31`	`Gagorian`	`Ellipsis: Well you can always add $nick :p`
`22:50.48`	`CIA-40`	`03rabbit * r72252 10oUF_Banzai/oUF_Banzai.lua: oUF_Banzai: Attempt to support .ignoreBanzai and .Banzai again.`
`22:51.26`	`Ellipsis`	`after the -p`
`22:52.30`	`Lywellyn`	`Okay`
`22:54.41`	`Lywellyn`	`Hey, maybe I can trigger it "myself"...grin`
`22:54.45`	`Lywellyn`	`~lart lywellyn`
`22:54.45`	`purl`	`shoves a crumpet down lywellyn's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that?`
`22:54.55`	`Lywellyn`	`ahahaha. but it still didn't work.`
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`22:55.33`	`CIA-40`	`03jjsheets * r72253 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua:`
`22:55.33`	`CIA-40`	`ButtonFacade:`
`22:55.33`	`CIA-40`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`22:57.07`	`CIA-40`	`03jjsheets * r72254 10InfiniBar-2.0/FlashEngine.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Added support to the Flash Engine for the new ButtonFacade functions.`
`22:58.28`	`CIA-40`	`03toadkiller * r72255 10AutoBar/ (8 files):`
`22:58.28`	`CIA-40`	`AutoBar :`
`22:58.28`	`CIA-40`	`-- For quantity over 99 show * in the count`
`22:58.28`	`CIA-40`	`-- Only show one count if left & right click spell is the same.`
`22:58.28`	`CIA-40`	`-- Delete drag handle icons`
`22:58.30`	`CIA-40`	`-- New underlying architecture for Macros. Convert Macro buttons to use it.`
`23:04.12`	`Dashkal`	`~seen toadkiller`
`23:04.18`	`purl`	`toadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-161.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 21h 42m 34s ago, saying: 'Orionshock: "A Magnanimous Benefactor" Anchorite Kairthos'.`
`23:04.23`	`Dashkal`	`drat`
`23:04.44`	`Dashkal`	`Wondering if profile support is gone or just missing for now during these changes...`
`23:06.18`	`CIA-40`	`03jjsheets * r72256 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua:`
`23:06.18`	`CIA-40`	`ButtonFacade:`
`23:06.18`	`CIA-40`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`23:06.34`	`CIA-40`	`03jjsheets * r72257 10InfiniBar-2.0/FlashEngine.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Drycoding is bad, M'Kay?`
`23:06.53`	`Gagorian`	`Lies dryhumping is the best`
`23:06.56`	`Gagorian`	`Oh.. wait`
`23:07.00`	`Gagorian`	`What were we talking about`
`23:07.03`	`Gagorian`	`looks around`
`23:07.05`	`Gagorian`	`disappears`
`23:07.08`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:07.12`	`Dashkal`	`I heard nothing if you didn't`
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`23:13.40`	`JJSheets`	`Is there any addon that tracks how much damage is left in spells like Power Word Shield?`
`23:14.10`	`vhaarr`	`it's not reliable I think`
`23:14.34`	`Arcaia`	`Parrot LOL died.`
`23:14.39`	`vhaarr`	`I can't imagine any situtation where knowing would make any difference anyway`
`23:14.42`	`vhaarr`	`pre-tbc, yes`
`23:14.43`	`vhaarr`	`now, no`
`23:14.48`	`Gagorian`	`I was actually thinking about making one at some point`
`23:14.56`	`Dashkal`	`I don't think there is a way to reliably track that... unless the 2.4 log actually show you how much damage got absorbed`
`23:15.00`	`Gagorian`	`Can easily determine how much it absorbs total`
`23:15.17`	`vhaarr`	`Gagorian: noone knew that, wow`
`23:15.17`	`Gagorian`	`Then just remove absorbed damage and give an estimate how much is left`
`23:15.24`	`JJSheets`	`I'll start some research to see if the damage absorbed is tracable... if so then it can be done.`
`23:15.29`	`Aiiane_`	`Post-TBC, amount of damage left on PW:S always = "not freaking enough"`
`23:15.43`	`vhaarr`	`unless they changed something with 2.4, you can't track how much it absorbs`
`23:15.45`	`CIA-40`	`03Shot * r72258 10DoIKnowYou/Locales/ (enUS.lua zhTW.lua):`
`23:15.45`	`CIA-40`	`DoIKnowYou:`
`23:15.45`	`CIA-40`	`- zhTW udpate, thanks NightOwl!`
`23:15.46`	`Gagorian`	`vhaarr: Totally`
`23:15.46`	`vhaarr`	`I don't think they did`
`23:15.50`	`Dashkal`	`That's the key, incomming damage is random. So you can't accurately track, just estimate`
`23:15.55`	`vhaarr`	`and what Aiiane_ says is true anyway`
`23:16.50`	`Primer`	`sigh, I'm so close to being able to use my mouse in linux in the same way I can in windows for playing wow`
`23:16.55`	`Primer`	`X is such a POS`
`23:16.56`	`Gagorian`	`Well as long as it spits out how much was absorbed at least you can tell how much is left`
`23:17.05`	`Gagorian`	`It won't really matter anywhere except grinding some shit`
`23:17.10`	`Gagorian`	`And not even much then`
`23:17.30`	`JJSheets`	`yeah, it's a SWING_MISSED event with no damage. so it's untrackable. Oh well.`
`23:17.50`	`SunTsu`	`Primer: If the X mouse driver only would recognize all my buttons...`
`23:17.51`	VonhintenHOME`	`It's not like you can do much about it anyway... debuff means you can't refresh`
`23:17.59`	`Primer`	`SunTsu: use evdev`
`23:18.06`	`Primer`	`and it will`
`23:18.12`	`SunTsu`	`Primer: No way - FreeBSD`
`23:18.14`	`Primer`	`the problem is, wine won't recognize all the buttons`
`23:18.16`	`Dashkal`	`The mods I've seen that do that build up a database of how much skills damage you for an just decrement the average damage each time they see it absorb`
`23:18.20`	`JJSheets`	`Yeah, but I want to know if I've got enough left in the shield to take on a new mob. :p`
`23:18.22`	`Primer`	`heh, that'd be a problem`
`23:18.42`	VonhintenHOME`	`if the debuff is up, just refresh the shield, easy peasy :)`
`23:19.05`	`Ellipsis`	`Primer: even evdev isn't perfect`
`23:19.22`	`Ellipsis`	`one of my mouse buttons won't work in X because it's detected as a keyboard event`
`23:19.26`	`Dashkal`	`Use case: Debuff is up, you want to know if you should start charging a heal or not based on how much health is left in the shield`
`23:20.24`	`Primer`	`Ellipsis: mx revolution?`
`23:21.09`	`Primer`	`I still have the old mx1000...love this mouse. I only need to trick X into giving me 12 buttons without evdev and btnx (userspace event generator daemon) will work _perfectly_`
`23:21.20`	VonhintenHOME`	`If you're fighting a tough mob, you probably should heal. If you're not fighting a tough mob, if your health is low, you should heal`
`23:22.15`	`Dashkal`	`depends, you might want that time to do something else, like heal someone else`
`23:22.30`	VonhintenHOME`	`binding heal :)`
`23:22.33`	`Dashkal`	`heh`
`23:22.45`	`Dashkal`	`not saying you can't do without, just making a case why that knowledge might be useful`
`23:22.50`	`JJSheets`	`is playing his newbie level 6 priest... solo. was just curious. :p`
`23:22.54`	`Ellipsis`	`Primer: indeed, the revolution is ftl`
`23:23.11`	VonhintenHOME`	`hovering over the shield doesn't tell you, eh?`
`23:23.15`	`Dashkal`	`I'd love to have a bar that ticks down as I take damage through the shield`
`23:23.15`	`Ellipsis`	`the real problem is that evdev refuses to accept a device name that doesnt' start with "event"`
`23:23.24`	`JJSheets`	`only gives time remaining.`
`23:23.42`	`CIA-40`	`03belazor * r72259 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (4 files in 3 dirs):`
`23:23.42`	`CIA-40`	`Cryolysis3:`
`23:23.42`	`CIA-40`	`- Added option to revert to Cryo2 behavior for Outer Sphere skin`
`23:23.45`	`Dashkal`	`Antiarc: How is your bar code doing?`
`23:24.01`	VonhintenHOME`	`combat log does show (123 Absorbed.) right? you should be able to at least track your own`
`23:24.08`	`Ellipsis`	`Primer: does btnx work for you? I couldn't get it to generate ANYTHING, even though it detected the buttons just fine....fortunately most of my stuff works without it (after a little xorg.conf hacking)`
`23:24.23`	`Dashkal`	`I think JJ confirmed that it doesn't give the (123 absorbed) when it's a full absorb`
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`23:24.50`	VonhintenHOME`	`hmm.. like a block then`
`23:24.57`	`Dashkal`	`So you'd need to take the spellID, take the average expected damage for that spellid, and estimate. Someone confirm? I'm just guessing here.`
`23:24.58`	VonhintenHOME`	`just says "was blocked"`
`23:25.02`	`JJSheets`	`just says "X's attack was absorbed by X"`
`23:25.11`	VonhintenHOME`	`yeah, you're screwed :)`
`23:25.14`	`JJSheets`	`no mention of how much. the event lacks the info too. :)`
`23:26.55`	`CIA-40`	`03parnic * r72260 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua:`
`23:26.55`	`CIA-40`	`IceHUD:`
`23:26.55`	`CIA-40`	`- widen the minimum width for the TargetInfo module to account for long NPC names`
`23:26.59`	`Primer`	`Ellipsis: I've made a great deal of progress. You _cannot_ use evdev with it, as it reads the usb device directly and evdev makes that conflict`
`23:27.27`	`Primer`	`the problem is, once switching to an alternate mouse driver in X, I can't get all the buttons to work`
`23:27.33`	`Ellipsis`	`Primer: that's....odd`
`23:27.43`	VonhintenHOME`	`How many years has linux been out, and people are still struggling with how to get their fucking mouse to work... unbelievable.`
`23:27.47`	`Primer`	`the problem being that there aren't enough X buttons assigned at X startup`
`23:27.50`	VonhintenHOME`	`And now you know when its not unseating windows`
`23:27.53`	VonhintenHOME`	`when=why`
`23:28.04`	`Ellipsis`	`did you try Option "Buttons" "12"`
`23:28.15`	`Primer`	`so I can't make btnx generate arbitrary mouse buttons, because they don't "exist"`
`23:28.20`	`Primer`	`heh, I've tried everything :)`
`23:28.20`	`Dashkal`	VonhintenHOME`: If the mouse manafactureres would actually code the drivers, this kind of problem wouldn't exist. Windows does so well because the hardware drivers are written for it
`23:28.25`	`Ellipsis`	`I figured`
`23:29.00`	`Primer`	`if only there was a way to force X to have 12 buttons "exist" on X start, I'd be golden`
`23:29.08`	`Ellipsis`	`protip: whichever of your mice has the greatest number of buttons should be CorePointer, I learned that the very hard and painful way :P`
`23:29.10`	`Primer`	`because then btnx could generate any one of them`
`23:29.16`	`Dashkal`	`And vendors are starting to breathe down the hardware people's necks. Dell pressuring vendors to help sell their linux product lines`
`23:29.24`	`Primer`	`and I could assign any real X button event to a number higher than X apps care about`
`23:29.42`	`Dashkal`	`mmm, using "vendor" to mean two different things`
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`23:30.06`	`Primer`	VonhintenHOME`: people that write linux software don't care about it unsteating windows
`23:30.11`	`Primer`	`unseating, even`
`23:30.16`	`Ellipsis`	VonhintenHOME`: we're struggling with getting buttons 10-13 working, it's not like left and right click don't work :P
`23:30.45`	`Ellipsis`	`hasn't been that long that mice like that have existed`
`23:30.56`	`Primer`	`Linux is the ultimate desktop for me, as I can configure it to do just about anything I want it to do`
`23:31.16`	`Primer`	`whereas windows wants me to conform to IT`
`23:31.23`	`Primer`	`IT`
`23:31.28`	`Primer`	`not eye tee`
`23:31.32`	`Dashkal`	`You want closed, buy a mac`
`23:31.56`	`Primer`	`<-- going on 13 years of exclusive Linux desktop usage`
`23:32.08`	VonhintenHOME`	`just reminds me of when I first started using linux, Red Hat 5... sounds like the same old stuff`
`23:32.14`	`Primer`	`and by exclusive I mean "windows is strictly for games"`
`23:32.16`	`Ellipsis`	`<---dual booting 'cause she's a sucker for shiny games :<`
`23:32.26`	`Dashkal`	`back in RH5 days, basic hardware failed, now it's mostly the esoteric stuff that fails`
`23:32.32`	`Primer`	`thing is, at work, I only have Linux`
`23:32.36`	`Dashkal`	`many mouse buttons, laptop wireless, that sort of thing`
`23:32.47`	`JJSheets`	`<--- Has a linux and a windows box. One for the shiny games, one for reliability.`
`23:32.50`	`Dashkal`	`I have no problem getting any "normal" piece of hardware up and running now`
`23:33.21`	VonhintenHOME`	`I'm a windows whore.. i don't run anything else`
`23:33.46`	`Primer`	`my condolences`
`23:33.55`	VonhintenHOME`	`and at work, have very close relationship with MS, so get to work with a lot of the new software tech`
`23:34.10`	`JJSheets`	sheds a wee little tear for VonhintenHOME`
`23:34.10`	`Primer`	`that sounds like a nightmare to me`
`23:34.15`	`Dashkal`	`enjoy the lack of control`
`23:34.23`	`Dashkal`	`For some, that's a very good thing`
`23:34.31`	`Dashkal`	`For me, fuck that shit`
`23:34.38`	`Primer`	`we run windows boxes because our idiot customers want their asp pages...we reboot those boxes almost every day`
`23:35.01`	`Dashkal`	`Primer: Get a vmware subscription :p`
`23:35.15`	`Primer`	`we have like 30 windows boxes for servicing the web sites of about 2000 customers and 20 linux boxes for servicing the web sites of 50000 customers`
`23:35.17`	VonhintenHOME`	`depends what you mean by control.. TAP programs allow us to get features we need implemented`
`23:35.37`	`Dashkal`	`By control I'm referring to a fundamental difference in philosophy`
`23:35.43`	`Dashkal`	`At one end you have the Macintosh`
`23:35.47`	`hypetech`	`we have windows servers that we hardly ever have to reboot. Now how often we have to run an iisreset is another story....`
`23:35.54`	`Dashkal`	`most everything is done the way the vendor wants it done`
`23:35.55`	VonhintenHOME`	`And don't kid yourself, a lot of MS's new software is very cool... take a look at their Domain Specific Language tools, or Linq`
`23:36.07`	`Primer`	`hypetech: yeah, iisreset happens A LOT too`
`23:36.11`	`Dashkal`	`at the other you have gentoo linux. complete access to every knob, lever, dial, and source code`
`23:36.23`	`Primer`	`don't get me started on gentoo`
`23:36.40`	`hypetech`	`gentoo is great for servers that you don't change much, like snort boxes and shit`
`23:36.48`	`Primer`	`I used gentoo for a few years, and while it may seem cool at first, it's a maintenance NIGHTMARE`
`23:36.58`	`Primer`	`heh, my colo'd box is gentoo`
`23:37.00`	`Dashkal`	`I hate mac because I don't do things the "Steve Jobs" way. I hate gentoo because I don't need that much control (and having to compile openoffice is an excercise in suck)`
`23:37.02`	`Primer`	`I haven't updated it in years`
`23:37.06`	`Primer`	`and I never will either`
`23:37.10`	`CIA-40`	`03ackis * r72261 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua):`
`23:37.10`	`CIA-40`	`Incubator:`
`23:37.10`	`CIA-40`	`- Added some M'ure timerz wheee`
`23:37.27`	`hypetech`	`Ackis: what's M'ure?`
`23:37.28`	`Ackis`	`wheee`
`23:37.36`	`Ackis`	`super secret boss`
`23:37.40`	`Ackis`	`i could tell you`
`23:37.43`	`Ackis`	`but i'd have to kill you`
`23:37.56`	`hypetech`	`uh huh`
`23:38.16`	`JJSheets`	`You cannot kill me, for I am the cockroach of LOVE!`
`23:38.20`	`hypetech`	`does Incubator still fill your screen with every mob in the instance? lol`
`23:38.25`	`Primer`	`Dashkal: so what distro do you use? I use fedora for desktop and Centos for server`
`23:38.26`	`Dashkal`	`I dislike windows because it leans more towards mac than gentoo. mmm, balance leaning towards letting me tinker: Ubuntu`
`23:38.33`	`Primer`	`bets he says "Ubuntu"`
`23:38.40`	`Dashkal`	`hands primer a cookie`
`23:38.52`	`Primer`	`I have this hate of anything Debian`
`23:38.55`	`Dashkal`	`I use it because it "just works" _without_ getting in my way`
`23:38.56`	`Dashkal`	`Debian sucks`
`23:39.05`	`Dashkal`	`.deb and apt-get are just fine`
`23:39.07`	`Primer`	`ever since I first tried it many many years ago`
`23:39.08`	`Ackis`	`hypetech: neg it's on a fubar timer if you don't have that it only shows the last x`
`23:39.15`	`hypetech`	`I can't get used to CentOS, rpm has been messed up for like the last year with corrupted rpmdb issues`
`23:39.24`	`Primer`	`to me, the Debian mentality is very close to the Mac mentality`
`23:39.27`	`Dashkal`	`suse and fedore are both good choises too`
`23:39.29`	`Dashkal`	`debian is`
`23:39.30`	`Primer`	`much fanboy-ism`
`23:39.31`	`Dashkal`	`yes`
`23:39.33`	`Dashkal`	`absolutely`
`23:39.35`	`Dashkal`	`I don't use debian`
`23:39.47`	`Dashkal`	`Ubuntu has (so far) taken a much more pragmatic approach.`
`23:39.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`i use it and love it`
`23:40.02`	VonhintenHOME`	`So, the last time I tried Linux, was Red Hat 5... but I had a bitch of a time getting a dual boot going... LILO fucked my system up several times... has that stuff been fixed? Could I install linux on my Vista box without fucking my Vista install up?`
`23:40.04`	`Dashkal`	`Having things work is more important than having things work "the right way"`
`23:40.14`	`profalbert`	`I'll switch back to ubuntu after trying debian sarge and lenny`
`23:40.15`	`Primer`	VonhintenHOME`: I have
`23:40.26`	`Primer`	`I recently bought a T61p laptop`
`23:40.31`	`Primer`	`first thing I did was put Linux on it`
`23:40.32`	`Dashkal`	VonhintenHOME`: I don't speak for vista, but I haven't had any problems getting winxp and ubuntu (using GRUB, not LILO) to coexist perfectly
`23:40.37`	`hypetech`	VonhintenHOME`: you should make a backup first
`23:40.40`	`Primer`	`installed grub...it Just Worksâ¢`
`23:41.05`	`JJSheets`	`has set up a dual boot vista/ubuntu machine. you need to do some special stuff, but it can happen.`
`23:41.27`	`Lywellyn`	`I tried installing ubuntu on my desktop once....oh it failed so horribly.`
`23:41.30`	`hypetech`	`one hell of an emote`
`23:41.30`	`hypetech`	`:p`
`23:41.33`	`Primer`	`by "special stuff" you mean "install grub on the MBR"`
`23:41.35`	`Ellipsis`	`I'm having no issues with lilo`
`23:41.38`	`JJSheets`	`takes a bow.`
`23:41.51`	`Lywellyn`	`it installed perfectly alongside WinXP.....but apparently very little of my hardware has drivers ><`
`23:41.55`	`Ellipsis`	`Primer: knowing vista, it probably rewrites the MBR every boot or something :P`
`23:42.06`	`hypetech`	`I've used Lilo ever since grub ate a couple of my old computers and I had to go through hell getting it off`
`23:42.16`	`JJSheets`	`Ellipsis, here's your cookie.`
`23:42.17`	`Dashkal`	`How well does grub play with vista's bootloader?`
`23:42.20`	`Ellipsis`	`srsly?`
`23:42.24`	`Ellipsis`	`that's freaking dumb`
`23:42.24`	`JJSheets`	`yup`
`23:42.28`	`Primer`	`Ellipsis: luckily it does not`
`23:42.40`	`Primer`	`lilo is old school`
`23:42.47`	`Primer`	`once you know grub, you never go back`
`23:42.55`	`Primer`	`it's like the poor man's openfirmware`
`23:43.35`	`Primer`	`vista's, just like XP's, bootloader resides on the boot record of the partition it's installed onto`
`23:43.53`	`Primer`	`windows simply sets up a chainloader on the MBR that points to the partition's BR`
`23:44.13`	`Primer`	`when you install grub, you just overwrite that crappy, useless MBR, with a useful one`
`23:44.35`	`Dashkal`	`Lywellyn: Download and butn the latest ubuntu CD or dvd. boot it as a livecd and see how well it runs (expect slow as balls, it _is_ running off of a cd drive)`
`23:44.39`	`JJSheets`	`and when you run vista, it overwrites that horrible potential virus and puts the crappy MBR back on.`
`23:44.53`	`JJSheets`	`least it did with the version I installed.`
`23:44.56`	`Primer`	`it does not`
`23:44.57`	`Lywellyn`	`HEY IT WORKS (the script, I mean!) :D`
`23:45.05`	`Dashkal`	`in that case, how do you get vista to recognize the legal boot signature on the second partition?`
`23:45.25`	`Primer`	`dunno what you mean`
`23:45.31`	`JJSheets`	`create a bin file of the boot signature and point the windows bootloader to it.`
`23:45.40`	`Primer`	`for me, making grub work with vista was the same as getting it to work with XP`
`23:45.44`	`JJSheets`	`I'm sure there's a better way.`
`23:45.50`	`Lywellyn`	`Dashkal: livecd?`
`23:45.53`	`JJSheets`	`but what I did worked. :)`
`23:46.16`	`Dashkal`	`Lywellyn: yep yep. The last few ubuntu install cds work as live cds (cds you can boot off of)`
`23:46.23`	`Dashkal`	`it loads ubuntu up into ram`
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`23:47.13`	`Dashkal`	`it just takes all the files that need write access and stuffs them into a ramdrive (not that many, practically speaking)`
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`23:48.05`	`Lywellyn`	`explain this "live cd" more. I am intrigued.`
`23:48.09`	`Dashkal`	`heh`
`23:48.33`	`Dashkal`	`The basic idea is it's possible with use of a ramdrive to boot an OS off of unmodifiable media. Similar concept to booting from the network`
`23:49.18`	VonhintenHOME`	`same idea that's been in use for ages with dos boot disks`
`23:49.26`	`Dashkal`	`So go grab the Hardy Heron (8.04) release of ubuntu, burn it, then reboot your computer and boot from the disc. I won't touch your main drive unless you let it. While it'll run slowly (everything has to read from the CD), it'll give you an indication of how much hardware works`
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`23:52.25`	`vhaarr`	`* JJSheets has set up a dual boot vista/ubuntu machine. you need to do some special stuff, but it can happen.`
`23:52.34`	`vhaarr`	`only if you're stupid enough to install windows AFTER linux`
`23:52.44`	`JJSheets`	`lol`
`23:52.44`	`vhaarr`	`if you install winxp -> linux, you'll never have any problems`
`23:52.53`	`Lywellyn`	`So all I literally have to do is burn that ISO to CD and it'll boot?`
`23:53.02`	`vhaarr`	`Lywellyn: yeah`
`23:53.03`	`Dashkal`	`that is correct`
`23:53.05`	`profalbert`	`linux->winxp isn't much of a problem either`
`23:53.07`	`Lywellyn`	`That's pretty hot.`
`23:53.13`	`profalbert`	`just boot a live-cd`
`23:53.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`where have you been? linux cds have been doing that for like 4 years`
`23:53.23`	`Dashkal`	`I've installed either way`
`23:53.23`	`profalbert`	`chroot and /sbin/grub-install hd0`
`23:53.29`	`Dashkal`	`with XP all I had to do was reinstall grub`
`23:53.38`	`Dashkal`	`yeah, that`
`23:53.42`	`Lywellyn`	`Arrowmaster: If that was directed at me, I haven't dabbled in linux all that much.`
`23:53.42`	`vhaarr`	`I'm just saying JJSheets is a retard`
`23:53.48`	`vhaarr`	`but yeah it's not hard`
`23:53.51`	`JJSheets`	`~lart vhaarr`
`23:53.51`	`purl`	`gives vhaarr a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades"`
`23:53.59`	`Dashkal`	`vhaarr: winxp != windows vista`
`23:54.08`	`vhaarr`	`who uses vista? :P`
`23:54.12`	`Camci`	`me`
`23:54.14`	`Dashkal`	`I do. Laptop came with it`
`23:54.14`	`JJSheets`	`not I.`
`23:54.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`morons`
`23:54.17`	`vhaarr`	`you're on crap then`
`23:54.21`	`vhaarr`	`crack*`
`23:54.21`	`Camci`	`it rocks`
`23:54.31`	`Dashkal`	`Negative. I lose my wireless with linux, I'm stuck`
`23:54.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`what wireless?`
`23:54.49`	`Dashkal`	`I do not have a legal copy of XP to put on it`
`23:54.51`	`vhaarr`	`actually it doesn't rock at all`
`23:54.55`	`Dashkal`	`so I'm still stuck`
`23:55.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can probably use it with ndiswrapper`
`23:55.17`	`vhaarr`	`when my dad bought a new laptop he called me and said that his camera wouldn't work`
`23:55.19`	`Dashkal`	`does ndiswrapper handle vista drivers?`
`23:55.27`	`vhaarr`	`so apparently the driver that worked with XP no longer works with vista`
`23:55.31`	`vhaarr`	`tell me how that rocks`
`23:55.34`	`vhaarr`	`he had to buy a new camera`
`23:55.35`	`profalbert`	`vista is ok, if you have enough performance to feed it`
`23:55.42`	`Dashkal`	`I hate it`
`23:56.02`	`Dashkal`	`I _really_ hate it. wtb vista with sp2 (since sp1 was craptastic)`
`23:56.12`	`JJSheets`	`btw, vhaarr, I did say that there are probably better ways to do it, and I was talking about Vista, not XP. :p`
`23:56.25`	`vhaarr`	`JJSheets: I can't imagine I'd have any problems with vista either`
`23:56.26`	`Dashkal`	`but the wireless is a dealbreaker`
`23:56.27`	`vhaarr`	`but maybe`
`23:56.43`	`JJSheets`	`ain't that important anyway. :p`
`23:56.53`	`vhaarr`	`microsoft, in their finite wisdom, probably hasn't changed the way vista is booted`
`23:57.35`	`vhaarr`	`I can't imagine why anyone would use vista unless it was forced upon them by a new laptop purchase`
`23:57.38`	`CIA-40`	`03Ganders * r72262 10NinjaYell/core.lua:`
`23:57.38`	`CIA-40`	`NinjaYell:`
`23:57.38`	`CIA-40`	`- Fixed weird messages with resisted spells`
`23:57.38`	`CIA-40`	`- Added miss type substituting for resist messages`
`23:57.46`	`vhaarr`	`which is probably the case 95% of the time`
`23:58.19`	`Dashkal`	`points up to the comment about vista overwriting the MBR on boot`
`23:58.20`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i'd use vista if it weren't for the fact that you can't run 16 bit apps on it`
`23:58.32`	`vhaarr`	`sag_ich_nicht: why would you do that?`
`23:58.35`	`vhaarr`	`because you're an idiot?`
`23:58.45`	`vhaarr`	`or because you like shiny blingbling maybe`
`23:58.49`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`why would i be an idiot to do that`
`23:58.50`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`no`
`23:58.54`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`i'd turn off aero`
`23:58.57`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`waste of resources`
`23:58.59`	`vhaarr`	`then what does it give you`
`23:59.03`	`Dashkal`	`you're dependent on a 16 bit app? Ouch`
`23:59.04`	`Camci`	`hes just jelous he cant run vista on his comp`
`23:59.04`	`vhaarr`	`winfs?`
`23:59.27`	`vhaarr`	`I know, more annoying "this file might be a security risk" popups`
`23:59.28`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`winfs was trashd`
`23:59.31`	`vhaarr`	`I know`
`23:59.43`	`JJSheets`	`Continue or Cancel?`
`23:59.46`	`sag_ich_nicht`	`actually the audio subsystem`
`23:59.49`	`JJSheets`	`over and FREAKING over again.`

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