IRC log for #wowace on 20080425

00:01.16GagorianNeoTron: It includes ISB when it's on, doesn't when it's off.
00:01.34GagorianThere's an option to manually include a 50% uptime ISB
00:01.43NeoTronhmm
00:01.59NeoTronit's tricky to model correctly
00:02.23GagorianIt's possible to do with one lock and no other shadow damage dealers
00:02.29Gagorian:P
00:02.34GagorianBut that's raid wise useless
00:02.41GagorianSo, I've left it out
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00:03.53NeoTronmaking it a slider would help
00:04.05NeoTronthere's ways to estimate the uptime
00:04.32GagorianOf course, but I can't do it within DrDamage
00:06.34GagorianJust respec fire and you don't need to worry about it!
00:06.59NeoTronI tried that :P
00:07.14NeoTronthat said I'm now good to go fire if I so wish because I got the illidari council cloak :P
00:07.42GagorianI went fire a while back and I have a shitty cloak, buuut it's still better
00:08.55NeoTronAnother threat meter: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11838/ werd
00:09.02NeoTronGagorian: WWS to prove it? :P
00:09.29NeoTronfire dps should be better in theory but in reality doesn't seem like it is due to lost RDPS. I guess if all warlocks were fire it might be different
00:09.42GagorianAll our locks are fire
00:09.47NeoTronbut then you lose 10-15% from each shadow priest
00:09.54PrimerAnyone venture a guess as to when will arena S4 come?
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00:10.07GagorianWell, I gain about 150 dps from fire
00:10.12PrimerI'm guessing that upgrading my S2 crap to S3 right now would be foolish?
00:10.19NeoTronGagorian: I just don't see the gain
00:10.21Primerthat I should save my honor and arena points?
00:10.36GagorianNeoTron: Flame cap and no shard for succy sac.
00:10.39GagorianEnough said!
00:10.45NeoTronI did use flame caps
00:10.48NeoTronno shard is indeed nice ofc
00:11.31GagorianAnd now I don't have to care about crit rating going down either
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00:11.41NeoTronI understand the benefits, trust me
00:11.45NeoTronI wish ISB was self-only
00:11.52NeoTronso it could easily be modeled and accounted for
00:12.01GagorianBasically if one lock goes fire, everyone should
00:12.04NeoTronanother issue with fire is +1 debuff used per warlock
00:12.38NeoTronGagorian: brutalus DPS by chance?
00:13.00GagorianHmm, my shadow record is higher
00:13.03Dezzimalhow do I turn off this spam? http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/1676/wowscrnshot042408190742wp6.jpg
00:13.25GagorianAlso our tanks suck and I need to hold back
00:13.26NeoTronI did 2259 dps (boomkin + 1 heroism, no shaman/shadow priest)
00:13.42BrunersDezzimal: you are not alone
00:13.48NeoTronwith the boomkin away due to burn 3 times with one death/res
00:14.01BrunersDezzimal: install an older version or disable recount
00:14.07NeoTronunfortunately the firelock got dead 50s or so before the kill
00:14.26GagorianI did 2508 DPS as shadow, but I had to hold back
00:14.27SilverstormNeoTron: Can't you use one Immolate and everyone benefits?
00:14.27DezzimalBruners: feck :/
00:14.33Gagorianon the other hand I got 3 lusts :P
00:14.51NeoTronSilverstorm: you can but immolae DPSC > incinerate DPS
00:14.54NeoTronso it's always good to use it
00:14.57Gagorianindeed
00:15.06Gagorianit's much better to have someone drop a shitty debuff
00:15.12Gagorianif you're pressed for debuff slots
00:15.21NeoTronwe tried pretty hard
00:15.21Silverstormah, I hadn't investigated that part yet...we're still struggling with Kalecgos, so I'm still affliction for SE on the demon form
00:15.29NeoTronrogues not using deadly poison for example
00:15.38Silverstormwe hardly get close to 40...are we doing something wrong?  :-p
00:15.40NeoTronwe had an aff lock for brutallus too
00:15.50GagorianWhat shit do you have then?
00:15.53GagorianFlame shocks? :C
00:15.57GagorianSerpent stings
00:15.58Gagorianwhatever
00:16.05NeoTronwell we hve a ret pally, boomkin, hunter sting, aff lock, 2 shadow priests..
00:16.05BrunersSE is what?
00:16.20Gagorianhttp://wowwebstats.com/1byv25tvlxn1a?s=9562-9918
00:16.22Dezzimaltime to go lua diving then and figure out where that output to the chat log is coming from :(
00:16.23Gagorianthat's our last brutallus
00:16.24SilverstormWell..at the beginning of a fight, we might top out at 35-38 debuffs, once the fight flow is established, we average probably 25 debuffs
00:16.33SilverstormBruners: SE = Shadow Embrace
00:16.51NeoTronstormstrike..
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00:17.06NeoTronah yes, deep wound from the MS warrior
00:17.37NeoTrondemo shout, FF, 2 fire mages (scorch, fireballx2, ignite x2)
00:18.02GagorianWell the difference between fire and shadow raid dps wise are really small
00:18.06GagorianBut it's more fun to play
00:18.08NeoTronGagorian: so our shadow priests beat yours by 400 dps :P
00:18.20GagorianWe didn't even have CoS on that
00:18.30GagorianTwo of our locks couldn't raid
00:18.38GagorianAnd no improved shadowbolt
00:19.13NeoTronthat was kind of my point on the ISB
00:19.34GagorianNeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/wm455fq45ba6w?s=13889-14259
00:19.44GagorianWell, those aren't our best shadow priests either
00:19.48Gagorianthat's me as shadow
00:20.01Silverstormwow...the Spanish guys did a number on the addons...lots of esES updates!
00:21.42GagorianAlso on that last kill the other spriest died (mine ofc)
00:22.05hypetechwhy is recount spamming my chat box with names?
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00:23.33NeoTronGagorian: thing is I've never seen conclusive evidence that fire is actually really better
00:23.38SilverstormNeoTron: if I'm looking MagicTargets, do I need to manually grab it from SVN?
00:23.54Silverstorms/it/LibBars/
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00:24.11NeoTronSilverstorm: if you download with embeds it works
00:24.14hypetechwhy is recount spamming my chat box with names?
00:24.17NeoTronif you run disembedded you'd need to get it manually
00:24.21Silverstormok, I don't...so I'll grab
00:24.23NeoTronhypetech: because it's broken
00:24.45GagorianNeoTron: It's better for the warlock for sure. Raid DPS wise, it should be slightly better depending a bit on raid composition.
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00:25.01GagorianThe impact on raid DPS isn't big either way
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00:26.50GagorianHigher personal DPS, less shards spent, can ignore crit ratings additional effects, flame cap madness, lower mana consumption, more stable DPS
00:27.02GagorianAre at least the qualities that make me want to play that
00:27.07NeoTronGagorian: from what I've seen ISB is ~= 10-13% more damage from shadow dmg dealers in our raids
00:27.12NeoTronpre-2.4  that is
00:27.25NeoTronit does however not useless mana
00:27.58NeoTronimmolate uses more mana and you cast more incinerate which combined makes mana use almost identical
00:28.26NeoTronflame cap is a PITA btw
00:28.27GagorianIt's a bit lower but not by much yes
00:28.43GagorianEasy to farm
00:28.46NeoTronaccording to spreadsheet mana is is ex
00:28.49NeoTronextremely close
00:29.02NeoTronand no it's not, I went a full round and a half and found 3
00:29.04NeoTronfrom 2 nodes
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00:29.14NeoTrontook me a long time too
00:29.29GagorianFlight form ftw
00:29.45GagorianI can get it on ragveil rounds easily
00:30.35NeoTroneasily is relative
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00:30.57NeoTronstill if you weigh farming shards with farming flame cap
00:31.01NeoTronshards win. :P
00:31.03Silverstormyep, easily on my server is not a problem...no one's even killed Kalecgos yet
00:31.12GagorianNeoTron: The difference is you need to farm shards
00:31.20GagorianYou don't need to farm flame cap for fire to be better DPS
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00:32.03GagorianIt's a bonus, popping a flamecap before bloodlust is a nice boost
00:32.13GagorianNot a necessity by any means
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00:32.43NeoTrontop 5 warlocks on wwscoreboard for brutallus are all shadow
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00:33.11GagorianCause there's a lot more shadow locks around
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00:33.28GagorianI was nr. 2 DPS on wws scoreboard after our first brutallus kill
00:33.49GagorianI dropped off due to locks using CoD/CoA
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00:34.06GagorianAnd not being as threat limited etc
00:34.26GagorianI'd like to get a few bloodlusts and CoD to try
00:34.47GagorianCould easily get back on top of that wws scoreboard
00:34.55NeoTronhow weird. a warlock using a succubus
00:35.24GagorianI'm nr. 16 on the scoreboard now
00:35.26Gagorian:C
00:35.40GagorianWho is using succubus?
00:36.10AmadeoI am a succubus
00:36.25Amadeosmacks hims...herself
00:37.41GagorianAlso to get a good result on the scoreboards after a while requires really good luck
00:37.55GagorianLow mitigation %, low resists, higher crit rate than average
00:38.05GagorianAnd no targeted abilities like burn and shit
00:38.17mykxlol wwscoreboard, rng epeen
00:38.51NeoTronnot saying it's the ebst source of info
00:39.02NeoTronjust saying that if fire was so good, someone in the top10 should be fire :P
00:39.17NeoTronI'd score a lot better dps if I had a shadow priest and an elemental shaman
00:39.18NeoTronbut I don't
00:39.21NeoTronor didn't rather
00:39.51GagorianWell just need a fire lock to get optimal circumstances as those guys have and you'd have one there
00:40.05NeoTronand likely shadow does better because when the RNG of crit is for you, it owns fire
00:40.43GagorianFor shadow to be better personal DPS improved shadow bolt uptime needs to be around 75%
00:41.00NeoTronI believe ours should be int he range of 85% or so
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00:41.22NeoTronwish there was a good uptime-tracker
00:41.32GagorianI always planned to make one
00:41.33NeoTronshould be reasonbly easy to write now
00:41.37GagorianNever got to it
00:41.42GagorianAnd don't care now :D
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00:42.00NeoTronbut the addon I sued in 2.3 when we had worse gear said the benefit was in the range of 12-13%
00:42.30GagorianWell, crit isn't going to go up that much
00:42.32GagorianMore like down
00:42.51NeoTronstill with RNG on your side, fire won't give you this kind of dps: http://wowwebstats.com/3gkueyrsj235g?s=13198-13289&a=1#summary
00:43.01NeoTronand yes I know that crit rate is silly high but still. it happens
00:43.05NeoTronhappens more than I realize I guess
00:43.16NeoTronI pulled aggro off kalecgos because I got 68% crit the other day
00:43.54Gagorianwell that's a 1min30s attempt
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00:44.13GagorianIt's statistically very unlikely to have that crit streak last :D
00:44.53GagorianBut yeah, it's possible with good luck to push out higher shadow burst dps at least
00:45.02GagorianI'm never that lucky
00:45.15NeoTronstill I had 42% crit on the kill
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00:45.20NeoTronthat's higher than what I should have
00:45.50MegalonNeoTron: that's called variance ;)
00:46.31GagorianAnyway all our locks are fire now.. And for me the advantages are better than the downsides
00:46.43GagorianWorks for us
00:47.49NeoTronshadow is easier when raid leading
00:48.01NeoTronI'd need a really good addon to tell me loud and clear when to cast immolate again
00:48.09NeoTronI often spam shadow bolts why juggling groups
00:48.15NeoTrons/why/while/
00:48.21NeoTronand stuff like that
00:48.39NeoTronI like fire - it looks cooler and I actually tried it back in SSC (when it was clearly worse)
00:48.56GagorianIt isn't a huge loss not to cast immolate though when there's other locks keeping it up
00:49.09NeoTronthere's a loss casting it too earlyu
00:49.20Gagorianyeah
00:49.28NeoTronand I think the DPSC is like 50% higher than incincerate
00:49.49GagorianIncinerate DPS for me is 2592 and immolate DPSC is like 3600
00:50.05NeoTronso almost 50%
00:50.06Gagoriancan check later exact values if you want
00:50.23GagorianYeah but also higher mana cost
00:50.27GagorianSo it compensates a bit
00:50.30NeoTrontrue
00:50.41NeoTronI would like to test with all locks going fire
00:50.43GagorianAnyway, with 3 locks keeping it up there shouldn't be any gaps
00:50.46NeoTronproblem is ppl dont have good cloaks
00:50.56GagorianI use the pvp haste cloak for now
00:51.00NeoTronand of course shadow enchant (me and th eother lock reenchanted our maihands0
00:51.05NeoTronso did we
00:51.12GagorianToo bad I passed on ZA haste cloak loads
00:51.14NeoTronbut I got the illidari one lastnight as I mentioned
00:51.18NeoTronno kidding
00:51.21GagorianDidn't think I'd ever use that shit :<
00:51.24NeoTronalthoguh the best one is the one from illidan
00:51.27Gagorianyeah
00:51.30SilverstormNeoTron: I'm planning out a new DoTimer, likely using LibBars, and eventually hoping to have that "REFRESH YOUR DOTS" sound/msg/we
00:51.33NeoTronoh one thing - are you geared for haste or dmg?
00:51.40Gagorian244 haste
00:51.43NeoTronSilverstorm: that would be nice
00:51.48NeoTronGagorian: fire benefits more from dmg than haste
00:51.59NeoTronwhere shadow benefits more from haste than dmg
00:52.00Silverstormgonna start small, though...just handle my own DoTs, no CD's or anything at first
00:52.09mykxSilverstorm: multiple target tracking in one is win
00:52.12NeoTronSilverstorm: all I want is list of dots and configurable reminders
00:52.27NeoTronspecifically I want it to tell me what to cast and when (to avoid overlaps)
00:52.27Silverstormit will track all your DoT targets, I'm affliction so that's a requirement
00:52.45GagorianNeoTron: One haste for incinerate spam is worth 1.231 damage
00:52.54NeoTronso for immolate I want a reminder 1.4 before it runs out :)
00:53.09GagorianWith my stats
00:53.14NeoTronGagorian: according to leiler spreadsheet it's like 1.05 for immo/inc
00:53.17SilverstormI can do that :)  LibBars:SetTimeRemaingFlag (or w/e the method is)
00:53.42GagorianNeoTron: Depends on raidbuffed +dmg
00:53.52GagorianAfter a certain limit haste gets better
00:54.34NeoTronyou likelty have both skull of gul'dan and staff right?
00:54.53GagorianI have ToC + haste offhand
00:55.06NeoTronour guild has gotten one staff (=>mage) and one trinket (=>mage) in 4+ months of farming :-/
00:55.11Gagorianand, we've had one gul'dan drop since septemper so no :<
00:55.13mykxthat sucks neotron
00:55.18NeoTronit's dumb
00:55.20mykxwe have like 9 trinkets :\
00:55.24Gagorian*september
00:55.27NeoTronrng = fail
00:55.31Gagorianwtf myk
00:55.34Gagorian:<
00:55.44GagorianOur only skull of guldan transfered off the server
00:55.46NeoTronbut man we got a whole lot of healing haste cloaks
00:55.48mykxI want ToC though.. I have the brut off hand with like the naj'entus dagger
00:55.58SilverstormWe have one staff, one sword, no skulls
00:56.05NeoTronand what's sucky is that I didn't realize then, no dps did, how good it actually is
00:56.11Silverstormand 4 kills on Illidan, 8-9 on Archi
00:56.13JJSheetsnevcairiel, ping
00:56.14NeoTronit's up there with th eillidary cloak or even better than it for dps
00:56.23Gagorianimmolate is 3461.6 DPSC
00:56.31SilverstormNeoTron: ETA for new marking algo?
00:56.47NeoTronSilverstorm: I merged it to trunk
00:56.53NeoTronbut I need to figure out how to makee it not frustrating
00:57.04NeoTronit remarks stuff in combat uninentionally and it's really annoying
00:57.15Silverstormmmm, ok.  I'll work with the older algo then
00:57.17GagorianNeoTron: Immolate 1 haste = 1.516 dmg
00:57.20NeoTronI think part of the problem is that I marks stuff without a modifier (if the units are known)
00:57.26SilverstormI didn't see it on my update ~30 minutes ago
00:57.32NeoTronit's not checked in
00:57.44SinaloitRecount is spamming debug messages, cool!
00:57.47SinaloitRecount: Name
00:57.48Silverstormoh ok, I'll keep watching it
00:57.49NeoTronI like it overall but it's frustrating at times
00:57.53mykxSinaloit revert or disable for now
00:58.02mykxelsia logged off a couple of hours ago
00:58.36GagorianNeoTron: I don't see how that spreadsheet can say dmg is better than haste.. unless it calculates at non-raidbuffed +dmg levels
00:58.47NeoTronit doesn't
00:58.59Gagoriandoes it reduce GCD below 1.5?
00:59.02Sinaloitor commnent out line 44 in roster.lua
00:59.03NeoTronit should
00:59.07mykxGagorian paste the spreadsheet please, curious
00:59.10NeoTronbut haste can't possibly be better for immolate?
00:59.21NeoTronwith such a large chunk if it coming from the dot
00:59.29GagorianIt's only a 0.85 coefficient
00:59.32Gagoriantotal
01:00.01NeoTronbtw
01:00.19NeoTronit'd be handy if DrDamage had a easier to use "stat weight" :P
01:00.36Gagorian+1% DPSC line :C
01:00.53NeoTronI want 1 dmg = X haste = Y crit = Z hit
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01:01.06NeoTronnot 27 = 15 = .. :)
01:01.22Sinaloitthink elsia would mind if i commented out the debug message?
01:01.24GagorianWell I could add it as optional below... :P
01:01.27Sinaloiton the SVN
01:02.14GagorianNeoTron: Anyway that line on immolate is 73 crit, 18.2 haste, 27.6 damage
01:02.44Gagoriangiving us 1 dmg = 1.516
01:02.49Gagorianerr
01:02.52Gagorian1 haste = 1.516 dmg
01:03.13GagorianThe dot portion doesn't matter really
01:03.19Gagoriansince haste allows us to cast that dot faster
01:03.27Gagorianwasting less time from incinerates
01:03.36NeoTronbut it's a minimal gain
01:03.52Gagorianit's a bit DPSC gain
01:03.56Gagorian*big
01:04.30NeoTronso my incinerate DPS was something like 2200
01:06.09NeoTronDPSC 3418 or so for immolate
01:06.26Gagorianfrom the sheet?
01:07.37NeoTron2361 DPS
01:07.40NeoTronfrom WWS
01:07.51NeoTronapproximate averages from an actual attempt
01:08.02NeoTronmy actual dps was a lot lower
01:08.20on1yis recount uspposed to be spamign names
01:08.25GagorianYes
01:08.30on1yhow do i turn tha toff
01:08.36GagorianYou don't
01:08.45on1yit is annoying
01:08.52mykxI prefer shadow, isb = more mana back to ME from the spriests lol
01:09.13NeoTronI wonder now why my dps was so low. was I really that ineffective?
01:09.15NeoTronhmm
01:09.27on1ygag why does it keeps spamign names
01:09.29ChaudWhat is the easiest way to make the UI the same across all of my characters and accounts =\
01:09.39NeoTronI cast 21 immolate and see 100 ticks. That means I likely cut off some or brut reset right after on ehit
01:09.42Gagorianon1y: Because the author forgot debug messages.
01:09.42durcynChaud: use default profiles
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01:10.01Chauddefault is awful
01:10.05on1yis there a way i can hid it from the.lua
01:10.15NeoTronI missed 2 and had 2.9% partial resist
01:11.42NeoTronah my math was apparently wrong
01:11.46on1ycan someoen tell me thow to turn off debugging  in recount??
01:11.51NeoTronredoing it my  dps pretty much matches my math
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01:12.21NeoTronnm I misdid my re-math :P
01:12.26Gagorian:P
01:13.27NeoTronoh of course
01:13.28NeoTronlife tap
01:13.58stew_ais cryolysis2 missing a AceTimer-3.0 entry from its embeds.xml?
01:14.01NeoTroneven so it seems I had less hits than expected
01:14.24NeoTronesp considering 4 drums
01:14.45SilverstormNeoTron: typo on MagicTargets config "lock and ulock"
01:15.15GagorianNeoTron: Activating trinkets, destropots etc consume a tiny amount of time
01:15.30on1ynot in a macro they dont
01:16.15GagorianOnly if you macro them with your main spell
01:16.24NeoTronSilverstorm: ops
01:16.39on1ywhy woudl yo macro them to anythign else than shadowbolt
01:16.45NeoTronGagorian: yeah but this is not a tiny amount of time. iot's possible WWS's "dps time" is wrong
01:16.47on1yor incin
01:16.56GagorianNeoTron: Well pull etc, lost time
01:16.57NeoTronbut me and the other lock had similar number of hits
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01:17.09NeoTrondps time though is tiem spent dpsing
01:17.12Gagorianon1y: Because you need control over when to active them
01:17.29GagorianNeoTron: Your DPS time?
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01:17.56NeoTronright
01:18.07GagorianIt doesn't count small breaks, it counts last spell + 5s I think
01:18.53GagorianSo running with burn for a bit would all count as DPS time
01:19.01GagorianOr similar
01:19.07NeoTronyeah
01:19.11NeoTronexcept I had none :-/
01:19.21GagorianDid you need to hold back at all?
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01:20.14GagorianI usually have TA until 75% and still need to hold back
01:21.11NeoTronnah
01:21.11on1ybut if you macro it poping trinkets/pots dont waste time
01:21.15KriLL3would be nice if questhelper ignored flightpaths in outland after you get elite flying mount/form
01:21.16NeoTronI did 3000 dps and pulled
01:21.21NeoTronI don't pull if I do 2700 dp
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01:21.34Gagorianon1y: But like I said, you need control over when to activate them
01:22.01NeoTronhmm
01:22.05on1ywell then macro it to all spells
01:22.07NeoTroncan make a cast macro for this actually
01:22.17NeoTroni.e /castsequence immolate, incineratex7
01:22.29GagorianIf immolate resists you're fucked
01:22.30Gagorian:D
01:22.38NeoTronhave it on a separate button too
01:22.40Gagorianyeah
01:22.48Gagorianbut then your rotation is wrong
01:23.19Gagoriancause then it will be immolate, incinerate, immolate, 6x incinerate
01:23.20NeoTronyes
01:23.21Gagorianimmolate
01:23.57NeoTronmake it incineratex7,immolate and have a 1.3s reset
01:24.05NeoTronthat way you start manual immo, press it 7 times, immo
01:24.15NeoTronif immo resists you cast it again and the macro is reset
01:24.29NeoTronif you need to move it would start over but when you cast immo manually, the macro would reset
01:24.48NeoTrondoesn't make it all automagic but makes be closer
01:24.50on1yare u using a special keyboard?
01:25.10on1yto do this
01:25.12NeoTronI have a G15 keyboard.. I guess it's epcial on some level
01:25.32GagorianI need 8 incinerates between immo :C
01:25.33on1ymake it incineratex7,immolate and have a 1.3s reset
01:25.40on1yhow do you achieve this in one macro
01:25.45NeoTronone issue we have now is one of our fire mages is testing 40/0/21 arcane/frost spec with 2xt5, 4xt6
01:25.49Gagorianbloodlust will change that rotation too
01:26.00GagorianAutomation is a bit of pita
01:26.01NeoTronGagorian: yes you're correct
01:26.24Sinaloit~seen zeksie
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01:26.35GagorianTempting to be lazy but it has its drawbacks
01:26.36NeoTronreally the best thing is a simple notification
01:26.41GagorianShadow is easy to slack with
01:26.42Gagorian:D
01:26.57Gagorianjust spam the same button for 5 minutes
01:26.58NeoTronwhich is partly why it's so nice for me (helps when raid leading)
01:27.08on1yneo link your profile
01:27.22NeoTronsee if it works today...
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01:27.32NeoTronworks is relative
01:27.44NeoTronhttp://armorylite.com/us/kilrogg/aminai/
01:28.07Gagorianno ZA trinket? :p
01:28.12NeoTronnote that is from ne testing yesterday with a +elemental shaman set
01:28.14NeoTronno
01:28.18NeoTronI've seen it 3 times
01:28.21NeoTronI've lost it 3 times
01:28.42NeoTronand to make it worse in was in like the first 3 times I ran
01:28.50NeoTronor first 4-5 or so - early on regardless
01:28.57GagorianWhat about ZA ring?
01:28.57Silverstormit's ok...at least one of Nihilium's locks still has the icon
01:29.17NeoTronno
01:29.18GagorianIt's better than exalted MH even at hitcap :c
01:29.27NeoTronfrom waht I've calculated, it's not
01:29.31NeoTronbut no I don't have that either
01:29.41GagorianDid you take into account the 2.4 proc nerf?
01:29.51NeoTron... nerf?
01:29.55NeoTronplease do tell
01:29.56Gagorianit was 15s now 10s
01:30.00NeoTronhmm
01:30.03NeoTronthen no likely did not
01:30.09NeoTronI counted the proc as 20 dmg
01:30.26NeoTroneven so when hit capped the haste ring is better
01:31.00Gagorianmyes probably
01:31.17Gagorian45s internal cooldown so.. about 55-60s per proc?
01:31.46NeoTron39 dmg + 31 haste > 34 dmg + 29 haste :P
01:32.35NeoTrongot 4 procs from the ring on the kill
01:32.41GagorianTrue, but hit cap will be a wet dream in sun well
01:32.56Gagoriansunwell.
01:33.14NeoTron5 on two almost-there attempts
01:33.26NeoTronI haev a lot of items with spell hit on them that I can play with
01:33.30GagorianNeoTron: well that's a maximum of like +15 dmg
01:33.36NeoTronbut frankly Ihaven't had much time to run ZA either
01:34.14Gagorian29 haste > 24 crit and 15 dmg
01:35.10Gagorianespecially with fire
01:35.42NeoTronstill with hitcap it seems better than timed one
01:36.02GagorianIt isn't :<
01:36.09GagorianHas been in my bank since I got it
01:36.25GagorianIf stamina mattered.. maybe
01:36.55GagorianBut without gul'dan you need to do magic tricks to get hit capped anyway in sunwell
01:36.57NeoTronmath doesn't lie
01:37.18GagorianBut even theoretically 29 haste > 24 crit and 15 dmg
01:37.21Sinaloit~pil
01:37.22purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
01:38.38NeoTroncrit == dmg from what I see (dmg is cheaper ans till worth more)
01:39.01NeoTronand I have 1.29 haste = 1 dmg
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01:39.15NeoTronand that makes the 29 haste = 37.41 dmg
01:39.25NeoTronwhich is less than 24 + 15 which is 39
01:39.40NeoTronso they are, I still maintain, almsot identical
01:39.44NeoTronwith the ZA ring being better
01:39.47NeoTronerr
01:39.49NeoTronBT trash
01:40.42NeoTronstill it's all nice to discuss but I still don't have the ZA ring nor do I have time to get it :P
01:40.57GagorianFor incinerate spam 1 dmg = 1.25 crit
01:41.13NeoTronthat is possible
01:41.22NeoTronI have shadow deeps numbers
01:41.28NeoTronwhich obviously value crit more
01:41.42GagorianMyes, even with shadow I'd pick ZA ring though
01:41.54GagorianI hate procs
01:42.05GagorianThey always proc when you get stunned or have to move
01:42.11GagorianOr are f'd in some way
01:42.12JJSheetslol
01:42.23NeoTrontrust me though, I have no choice atm :P
01:42.28GagorianYeah :D
01:42.35NeoTronbut if the deeps trash ring drop or the ZA pattern one I might pick it up
01:43.43GagorianAt the end of sunwell every lock needs to have the JC ring and the ZA ring anyway :<
01:43.55NeoTronfrom what I can see though, hellfire encased pendant is not better ;-)
01:43.58GagorianThere goes that freedom of choice
01:44.22GagorianThan loop of cursed?
01:44.32NeoTronyeah
01:44.39NeoTronesp since you value crit lower than I do in my comparisions
01:44.47NeoTronor heck the RoS one
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01:45.23GagorianAccording to my sheet with my stats based on pure incinerate spam hellfire-encased is better than loop of cursed bones or even the brooch of nature's mercy
01:45.56GagorianImmolate taken into the equation, well... it's just about equal probably
01:46.00Brunersare you discussing shadow bolts over incinerate spam?
01:46.07GagorianNot anymore
01:46.08hypetechwhat's the command to put recount in standby mode? /recount standy doesn't work :(
01:46.18NeoTronI want pendant of sunfire to drop
01:46.27Gagorianhypetech: well if you typed standby then I don't know what to say :D
01:47.01GagorianThe best shadow DPS neck before sunwell ones is the healing one from ZA :C
01:47.16NeoTronhealing one is better than the dps one?
01:47.19NeoTronhow is that possible?
01:47.21Gagorianyeah
01:48.06XinhuanKemayo, ping
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01:48.20Gagorian24 int 19 spi 33 haste 25 dmg > 19 sta, 20 int, 27 haste, 32 dmg
01:48.38Gagorianwithout taking into account stats (which are better for dps on the healing one)
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01:48.46Gagorian6 haste > 7 dmg
01:49.07Xinhuannot necessarily
01:49.11Xinhuandepends on your spelldmg
01:49.22Xinhuanalso haste does not increase dpm
01:49.32GagorianLocks don't care about dpm
01:49.45Shirik|AFKthen why were they so concerned about life tap nerfs?
01:49.55NeoTronhaste increases mana per lifetap cast second
01:49.56Xinhuanhaha
01:49.57GagorianBecause haste increases our mana regen
01:50.13Gagorianin the same amount as it reduces our efficiency
01:50.16Gagorianwell proportion
01:50.20NeoTronShirik: the "nerf" would have buffed pve raid dps
01:50.32Xinhuanonly if you actually got into a fight required using lifetap
01:50.37Xinhuanthat*
01:50.48NeoTronXinhuan: there's exactly one fight where you don't - akama
01:50.56NeoTrona lock runs OOM in like 55-60s
01:51.00GagorianAny fight that matters requires life tapping even in optimal circumstances
01:51.08GagorianUnless you have 2 shadow priests
01:51.12mykxNeoTron: on that armorylight thing what is the purple number for?
01:51.28NeoTronmykx: no clue.. :P what number?
01:51.32NeoTronanyhow I really need to head out. later
01:51.36Gagorian2 shadowpriests, JoW, BoW and mana spring.. then you probably don't need to lifetap at all
01:51.38mykxhttp://armorylite.com/us/kilrogg/aminai/ yours says 2629
01:51.50Xinhuantechnically you don't need to lifetap if you had a spriest and JoW on the boss
01:51.58GagorianThat's not enough
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01:52.28GagorianI had a shadow priest doing 1600 dps on brutallus in my group, I had BoW, JoW on the boss and mana spring
01:52.35GagorianStill needed to tap 8 times during 6 minutes
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01:52.59Xinhuanand how many drums/heroisms did you receive in that 6 minutes?
01:53.06Xinhuanall those doesn't increase dpm either
01:53.12Xinhuanjust makes u use mana even faster
01:53.25HateliveWho do we report bugs to?
01:53.33Gagorian3.
01:53.46GagorianI've tapped on brutallus always though, even with 1 heroism
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01:54.10Xinhuannow if you didn't get those heroisms, you could arguably have needed less lifetaps which translated to extra shadowbolts ;p
01:54.23Xinhuanalthough its a pretty thin-on-ice argument hehe
01:54.28mykxmeh its a 6 minute fight
01:54.58GagorianXinhuan: Myes
01:55.28JJSheetsAre there any addons on wowace.com that deal with minipets?  like the undercity's cockroach?
01:55.47Xinhuanbe more specific.... "deal with" means what?
01:55.48GagorianAnyway, I'm very well aware of all the implications of haste.. and for a fully buffed high-end warlock 6 haste > 7 dmg
01:56.03GagorianThen add 19 spirit for a possible imp. divine spirit buff
01:56.05Gagorianand 4 int
01:56.07JJSheetsXinhuan, like make sure you always have a chosen one out.
01:56.16Xinhuani'll have to say no to that
01:56.23GagorianMaking the ZA healing neck better for DPS
01:56.29Xinhuanthere is no API that is capable of reliably determining if you even have a minipet summoned
01:56.33GagorianSo much that it's worth picking it up :p
01:56.36Xinhuanand any such addon has to perform guesswork
01:56.49Xinhuanalso a non-combat pet despawning or spawning generates no event
01:56.55JJSheetsthought so...
01:57.32JJSheetsany other addons relating specifically to minipets?
01:57.45Xinhuanthe only way to reliably unsummon a minipet is to actually "do it twice" on some pet, and hope it isn't the pet you already have out
01:57.51vithosApoco: felmyst module didn't enable when we pulled, just stayed on monitoring
01:57.55GagorianXinhuan: Anyway, there's almost always in any fight time to lifetap without DPS cost due to movement.
01:57.58syerenPosted a new site for your filter Funkeh`.
01:58.03Xinhuangoing to have to say no :D
01:58.10GagorianIf I have to move for Burn, I lifetap both trips
01:58.14JJSheetsah well.  :)
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01:58.33GagorianGiving me like 4 free taps
01:58.43Xinhuantalking about brutallus, i need 4 healers capable of keeping the tank alive during stomp, tired of wiping all week on him
01:59.01GagorianWell if it's any consolidation
01:59.04GagorianWe've killed him every week
01:59.11Gagorianand still can wipe for hours due to that
01:59.13mykxlol your healers just need to wake up its a very easy fight once your healers get their fingers out their asses
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01:59.29Xinhuanthey haven't quite learnt the technique of staggering heals yet
01:59.43Xinhuanits pretty painful ~_~
01:59.52GagorianWe almost didn't kill twin eredars today due to healer failure
01:59.58mykxthen once you do felmyst brut healing is easy because they no longer suck
02:00.01GagorianOver and over same stuff
02:00.02Silverstormis the DPS up to par or not?  Or have you tried all-out yet?
02:00.21Gagorianmykx: Tell that to our healers too please
02:00.26Xinhuanhaven't bothered with DPS because we haven't quite managed to even get past 3 min alive
02:00.40GagorianHow many healers Xinhuan?
02:00.42Xinhuan7
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02:00.50GagorianSome guilds use 8
02:00.57GagorianAt least first kill
02:01.01Xinhuanonly if they have exceptional DPS
02:01.02mykxGagorian: we havent downed twins yet but don't struggle with brut at all, weird
02:01.11Xinhuani can safely say we don't have enough in our current gear
02:01.26mykxXinhuan: you want to hit enrage safely before worrying about dps imo
02:01.28Xinhuanof 3 months of illidan farming and 6 of archimonde, only 1 zhardoom, 1 skull, and 1 tempest has ever dropped
02:01.34GagorianXinhuan: Have you made a warlock cry?
02:01.43Lateralli have this problem with omen2, where the omen moon icon near my minimap is a question mark, ive loaded another character up on another realm and it works fine, its only on my main. tried deleting wtf, cache and addons folder
02:01.59Xinhuanwe're kinda undergeared zzz
02:02.09GagorianXinhuan: (I mean made him spec shadow embrace)
02:02.25Xinhuanwhy?
02:02.27GagorianThat gave the placebo effect needed for our healers not to fail
02:02.32Gagorian5% less physical damage
02:02.40Xinhuano_O
02:03.14Xinhuan5% less damage isn't going to make a hit from brut not a killing blow ~_~
02:03.22GagorianIf it's any consolidation also.. we've farmed illidan since september-october and we've had one gul'dan and two zhar'dooms
02:03.32GagorianAnd the gul'dan guy transferred out
02:03.35GagorianSo we have 0
02:03.41Xinhuanits also spelt "consolation" :)
02:03.47GagorianTrue
02:03.49Gagorian:D
02:04.20GagorianOur healers claimed 5% makes the difference! And well, it did die...
02:04.31Funkeh`syeren, interesting
02:04.40Xinhuanour healers are somewhat undergeared... like half don't have 4 pc yet
02:04.43Xinhuanso, meh
02:05.10syerenFunkeh`, they don't ever put the proper URL, so no fear of it slipping through.
02:05.24GagorianTbh, it's not as much of a gear check for healers as it is for DPS
02:05.32GagorianHealers only need to land their heals at correct times
02:05.48GagorianIf there's no heals between stomp and burst the tank is going to die
02:06.10GagorianIt doesn't even have to be any huge heals
02:06.28Gagorian6k holy light or so should do as long as pallies land them right
02:06.40Xinhuanlanding them right is the problem basically
02:06.44KemayoXinhuan: Pong?
02:06.47Xinhuanwith 9 healers we made it to 5 min+
02:06.55XinhuanKemayo, you updated PackageTooltip yea?
02:06.58KemayoYup
02:07.02Xinhuanwith embedded textures
02:07.07KemayoYup
02:07.09Xinhuani did the same with postal 3 weeks back
02:07.11Xinhuanand reverted it
02:07.17Brunershow many hunters do you use on brutallus ?
02:07.22KemayoWhy the revert?
02:07.29Xinhuanbecause using embedded causes word wrapping issues in the tooltip
02:07.47Xinhuanthe link gets wordwrapped into 2 lines per item for some ppl
02:07.51GagorianBruners: There's no set amount, one is good for MD. The rest according to what DPS is available
02:07.57Xinhuanso a 12 item tooltip becomes 24 lines
02:07.59KemayoHuh, weird.
02:08.04Xinhuanits *very ugly*
02:08.11Xinhuanyou can see screenshots of this on the postal thread
02:08.18Xinhuanlast page or 2nd last page
02:08.18NivFreakhot
02:08.19NivFreakeye of gruul for my priest from a pug
02:08.38Xinhuanjust 1 Gagorian
02:11.43GagorianWell Xinhuan.. I wish you luck on Brutallus. When it looks bad just think about how much Twin Eredars will suck and it won't feel as bad :D
02:11.52GagorianWe pulled 170 times before kill
02:12.02Diaoo_o
02:12.17Xinhuano_O
02:12.19Silverstormwow...we didn't pull more than 100 even on Archi...and we were horrid at staying out of fire
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02:12.31Arrowmasterembedded textures are causing wraping on everything for me
02:12.38durcynyeah, twins are a couple of bitches
02:12.41durcynno pun intended
02:12.53Xinhuanso Kemayo, i don't know if you will revert, but i thought i'll just tell you about it ;p
02:13.00exor674Gagorian: does that include mispulls (e.g. facepulls, "lol tank AFK", etc...)
02:13.07KemayoXinhuan: I will consider...
02:13.08GagorianYeah
02:13.15Xinhuanit seems to be highly dependant on uiscale, and font
02:13.22GagorianOur best pull was a mage invisibility
02:13.25Xinhuanand tooltip scale of course
02:13.31GagorianHe was running in to fool around
02:13.38GagorianAnd a portion of the raid decided to follo
02:13.39Gagorianw
02:13.49xyu`So has anyone said how to stop the recount debug spam?  
02:14.03GagorianA big portion of those were just to get a tactic established
02:14.10Xinhuanand there's no straightforward fix to the wordwrapping other than reverting
02:14.14GagorianWe developed new tactics constantly
02:14.26Xinhuansince a embeddex texture + itemlink is a really really long string
02:14.30GagorianWent between tactics back and forth before we decided upon one
02:14.36GagorianEvery single one has some downside
02:14.39Gagorian:c
02:14.52Xinhuanwhat positioning did u use for brut?
02:15.07Xinhuan90 degrees angle for the two soak groups? 180 degrees?
02:15.18Gagorianwe use a triangle basically
02:15.21Gagoriantwo soak groups
02:15.23Gagorianand melee
02:15.33Xinhuanand your burn spot is...?
02:15.41Gagorianright out of slash range
02:15.45Gagorianjust strafe a bit
02:15.52Gagorianwe're soaking at slash border
02:15.53Xinhuanwhere is that
02:16.12Gagorianslash is a 180 degree cone from tank
02:16.23Xinhuan180 degree isn't a "cone" ;p
02:16.27GagorianI know
02:16.28Gagorian:D
02:16.35Diaolol
02:16.37Xinhuanyou said triangle
02:16.46Xinhuanso which direction to u strafe
02:16.49Xinhuando*
02:16.59Xinhuantowards melee group, or towards the non-melee group?
02:17.11Gagoriantowards melee
02:17.17Gagorianfor both
02:17.31Xinhuanare your burn healers able to reach both spots from where ther are standing?
02:17.37Xinhuansince that's technically 2 separate burn spots
02:17.47Gagoriandruids are within range to both spots
02:17.52Gagoriantwo druids are burn healers
02:17.55Xinhuanwhere do they stand?
02:18.07Gagorianabout inside the mob or close to melee
02:18.25Gagorianthey can pretty much reach everyone from there
02:18.27Xinhuanso they are soaking slash too, but standing in front of the tank?
02:18.34Gagorianthey arent soaking slash
02:18.56Xinhuanok, so you have 5 melee + 2 druids = 7 ppl not soaking slash?
02:19.05Gagoriansomething like that
02:19.27Gagorian+ burned people
02:19.30Xinhuanand these 2 druids are "in front" of the melee in the middle?
02:19.48GagorianI don't really pay attention. They run around like retards
02:19.49Gagorian:D
02:20.01GagorianBut around the melee
02:20.09Xinhuanok so 25-7 = 18 soakers, 9 per side
02:20.12GagorianSo they can reach the tanks and the burned ones
02:20.14Gagorianyeah
02:20.21Xinhuanwhat happens if you have 3 ppl from the same side getting burnt?
02:20.28Xinhuanthen that side only has 6 soakers = wipe on 3rd slash
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02:21.14Xinhuanbasically the amount of damage from 3rd stack slash divided among 6 ppl is > 10k
02:21.40Xinhuaneven divided by 7 people is about 9k
02:21.43Gagoriantanks are soakers too
02:21.49Xinhuanthat already includes the tank
02:21.51Gagorianhmm yeah you're including that
02:22.26Xinhuanare you certain the druids don't soak slashes too?
02:22.31GagorianPretty certain ye
02:22.53Xinhuanseen any attempt where you wiped because one side's slash all died?
02:23.22GagorianI'll look at WWS to confirm
02:23.47GagorianActually druids do seem to take slashes
02:24.11Xinhuanits quite theorycrafting here, but the chances of 3 people being burnt from the same side is 3.7%
02:24.29Gagorianit casts every 30s and lasts 60s?
02:24.41Xinhuanthink its faster than every 30s
02:24.54pastamancerpokes CIA-40
02:25.09GagorianAre you sure people aren't just spreading burn? :D
02:25.09durcynburn is every 20 seconds
02:25.12GagorianAh ok
02:25.20Xinhuanits stomp that is 30s
02:25.39Xinhuanthat 3.7% chance is reduced a bit with mages/pallies
02:25.46Gagorianand resists
02:25.48Gagorian!
02:26.17Xinhuanbut 3.7% is really just (1/3)^3
02:26.17GagorianWell, if we've died to slashes it's been mostly due to taunt failure or heal failure
02:26.19CIA-4003pastamancer * r71387 10Grid/GridCore.lua: Grid: clicking on the fubar plugin will toggle the waterfall config window.
02:26.23mykxin between boss fights here but xinhuan I was gonna say before if your tanks are getting owned on stomp it may not be just your healers fault as if your tanks are popping shit it can be bad
02:26.31mykxarent*
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02:26.53GagorianOur soakers are mostly healed by shadow priests
02:27.06Xinhuanfrom looking at the death reports, i can see that they are mainly dying to lack of staggered heals
02:27.15Xinhuanit'll be like 3 heals land at once, then no heals for the next 2 secs
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02:27.55Xinhuannot sure how to fix that
02:27.55mykxhrm are your priests spamming to keep inspiration up as well as resto shamans bouncing CH off the tank for fortitude ?
02:27.55Xinhuanyeah
02:27.55Xinhuanthose don't do all that much during stomps
02:27.59Xinhuan3 hits is still a kill
02:28.05Xinhuanwith or without inspiration
02:28.11GagorianFeral or warrior?
02:28.13mykxwell I mean every little helps
02:28.18Xinhuanwarrior
02:28.22GagorianBoth?
02:28.36Xinhuansadly, don't have a geared druid tank
02:28.39Xinhuanzzz
02:28.41GagorianFeral is easier
02:28.46mykxwe have used 2 warriors for our kills
02:28.51mykxdoable for sure :)
02:28.58GagorianWe have had two warriors, feral + warrior and two ferals
02:29.01Xinhuanlets just say our best geared feral takes more damage during stomp than our 2nd best warrior tank
02:29.04GagorianEverything works
02:29.04Xinhuan;p
02:29.18GagorianTwo ferals is ideal ofc
02:31.15CIA-4003funkydude * r71389 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: catch different variants of .com
02:31.20GagorianWell, brutallus is still pretty forgiving on raid composition
02:31.24Funkeh`syeren, hopefully that fixes it
02:31.41Funkeh`either that or your pc will explode
02:31.47GagorianWe couldn't kill twin eredars without 3 resto shammies.. and we had 4 today on our kill
02:32.14GagorianSo 4 resto shammies, 2 resto druids, 2 holy pallies, 2 holy priests -_-
02:32.25Arrowmasterckknight: i found a bug in LGP-1.0, you never change clearedLast
02:33.35CIA-4003ckknight * r71390 10LibGuildPositions-1.0/LibGuildPositions-1.0.lua: LibGuildPositions-1.0 - actually set clearedLast
02:33.40ckknightArrowmaster: nuh-uh!
02:33.44SilverstormGagorian: 10 healers?
02:34.19Arrowmasterckknight: thank you for fixing that even though i told you previously that it was spaming C while in an instance
02:34.46ckknightArrowmaster: I thought you meant actually in /g, not in the addon guild chat
02:34.46Arrowmaster</sarcasm>
02:35.22Arrowmasternah i never got the version that had that bug
02:36.28GagorianSilverstorm: Aye
02:38.01CIA-4003phanx * r71391 10Recount/roster.lua: Recount: Stop spamming player names in chat.
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02:41.33Arrowmasterckknight: what addons use LGP-1.0 so far?
02:41.53ckknightCart2, Cart3, I think nev was adding support to Mapster
02:41.54SinaloitNeoTron: MagicTargets didn't clear out the bars from mobs despawning
02:42.46Arrowmasterckknight: could you move the xml and lua into a sub dir so externaling it doesnt add an unused callbackhandler and libstub
02:43.13ckknightyes, as soon as a proper, documented standard is made, I'll follow it. Until then, no
02:43.23ckknights/made/made and agreed upon/
02:43.38Arrowmaster=(
02:43.42CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r71392 10RBM/RBM/ (3 files in 3 dirs): RBM: Jira: 2-5
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02:44.38ckknightalso, why is CallbackHandler-1.0 part of Ace3 instead of separate, like LibStub?
02:44.47Arrowmasterno clue
02:44.54ckknightKaelten said it was going to be eventually, but for all I know, that could be 6 months from now
02:45.38Arrowmasterbut when using externals your just adding unused files
02:46.30ckknightyea, no proper standard has come up to allay that, and quite a few library standards that have been proposed have been ignored
02:48.32Arrowmasterok what wiki page do you want me to go ninja edit then to create this agreed upon standard
02:48.39ckknightI'd come up with a standard, but it'll just be ignored again
02:49.14ckknightwhich makes me depressed and not want to work on it at all
02:49.20ckknightsighs
02:52.16Arrowmastera lot of new libs are using a subdir so libstub and cbh arent included when using externals, but its a pain to fix the old libs due to possiblely breaking stuff thats using it
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02:54.06ckknightI hate dealing with legacy stuff like that, it basically is one giant denormalized clusterfuck
02:54.15ckknightand I don't see a viable way to add normalization
02:56.37CIA-4003sayclub * r71393 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua:
02:56.37CIA-40Grid:
02:56.37CIA-40- koKR Update
02:56.53Arrowmastereasy, just follow my directions before the lib gets widely used and it becomes too much of a pita to fix it later =D
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03:00.10XinhuanLibGraph-2.0 (me) and Threat-2.0 (antiarc) follow the subdirectory "standard" ;p
03:08.03Arrowmasterso do the new ones Kemayo just added yesterday
03:08.24Arrowmasterand LSM-3.0 does even though its got a legacy lib.xml in the main dir
03:08.37Arrowmaster(for now)
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03:12.56Dezzimal[21:37] <CIA-40> phanx * r71391 Recount/roster.lua: Recount: Stop spamming player names in chat.
03:12.58Dezzimalthank god
03:14.00NeoTronSinaloit: with/without magic marker? during or after combat?
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03:17.31SilverstormNeoTron: not clearing for me.  w/MM after combat
03:17.45Silverstormusually during the res part when you have to despawn Kalec 3-4 times
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03:18.24NeoTronit will not clear stuff you've marked with Magic marker
03:18.30NeoTronunless they are dead
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03:19.28NeoTronnor does it reset hp unless you mouse over / target the mobs
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03:22.34SilverstormI have Kalec set to ignore (don't need to mark a raid boss)
03:22.51NeoTronit should remove marks when exiting combat. hmm
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03:22.55Silverstormwhen I mouse over or target, it adds a new bar with Kalec (think it's a new GUID)
03:23.38NeoTronadding a new one in addition to the one already there?
03:24.38Silverstormyes
03:24.51Silverstormevery time we despawn him to res people, it adds a new bar
03:26.08NeoTronit should not
03:26.23Silverstormchecking based on name or GUID?  I don't know if the GUID changes?
03:27.12NeoTrondefinitely seems to work
03:27.20NeoTronas I said when you leave combat it removes all bars
03:27.34NeoTronand naturally I use guids ;-)
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03:28.46NeoTronso I am not sure why it doesn't
03:29.08NeoTroncan try /script MagicTargets:PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED()
03:30.55vithosis there a standalone frontend to LibGuildPositions?
03:31.32XelopherisIs there a bug with twins conflag in p2 hitting on the tanks?
03:33.43Silverstormit resets when we wipe...just not during ressing
03:34.48ckknightvithos: not to my knowledge, feel free to write one, it should be easy
03:35.00NeoTronSilverstorm: I don't understand the difference?
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03:36.36mykxckknight: I have noticed that LibDogTag is using up a LOT of CPU probably 10x more in combat than idle and yeah just thought I would let you know
03:36.46SilverstormI think I don't enter combat when we reset
03:36.53SilverstormI will watch this time to see if that happens
03:41.06digmouselolo finally fix CooldownTimers2's pulseoncooldown
03:42.50NeoTronyou mean when you pull him and then release?
03:43.02Silverstormwhen we pull to reset him so we can res
03:43.09NeoTronI see the problem
03:43.21NeoTronthat broke when I added out of combat parsing stuff
03:43.27NeoTronno event when he despawns
03:43.34Silverstormright
03:43.52Silverstormbecause the pull/feign is so fast, it can't pulse to put us in combat
03:43.59NeoTronthe caveat is that I keep a list of entities I've seen in combat and remember the bars without anyone targeting them
03:44.16Silverstormhmm
03:46.01Silverstormyeah, combat definitely doesn't trigger there
03:48.18NeoTronso I might have to abandon stick targets
03:48.19NeoTronor better yet
03:48.30NeoTronmake them disappear after a certain period of time without anyone targeting them
03:48.52NeoTronyeah that's what I'll do
03:50.05CIA-4003cwdg * r71394 10WoWEquip/localization.zhCN.lua:
03:50.05CIA-40WoWEquip: -
03:50.05CIA-40Update zhCN locale
03:52.53GagorianWithin a function is there any speed difference between 'if self.flag then' and 'if addon.flag' if addon has been declared local?
03:54.39CIA-4003funkydude * r71395 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: comment .net
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04:04.29digmousethere is no combatlog events for fail to cast of Feign Death?
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04:17.30Apoco~Cartographer3
04:17.30purlrumour has it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
04:22.22ckknightbah, rumor's spelled without that extra u
04:24.34CIA-4003sayclub * r71396 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: koKR update.
04:26.55KemayoAnd now... Hardy Heron.
04:32.55SinaloitNeoTron: I was already dead so I couldn't exit combat again =)
04:33.31CIA-4003sekuyo * r71397 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/ (Cartographer_NoteTarget.lua README.txt locale-enUS.lua):
04:33.31CIA-40Cartographer_NoteTarget
04:33.31CIA-40- implement note creation for targetless location
04:33.31CIA-40- some harmless refactoring
04:36.05CIA-4003digmouse * r71398 10CooldownTimers2/ (CooldownTimers2.lua CooldownTimers2.toc):
04:36.05CIA-40CooldownTimers2:
04:36.05CIA-40-Toc to 2.4
04:36.05CIA-40-Use new combat log system for the pulse on cooldown feature. Sorren and Speeddy thanks for the great work!
04:37.30NeoTronSinaloit: I know what the issue is and I know how to fix it
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04:49.41NivFreakNeoTron: does magicdkp double link items when you shift-click them from the history?
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04:55.06Diaosweet cd2 update :o
04:55.09Diaocdt2*
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05:08.58NeoTronNivFreak: does it?
05:10.53NeoTronit does indeed. how weird
05:12.42NeoTronok
05:13.29CIA-4003neotron * r71399 10MagicDKP/MDKPItemWidget.lua: MagicDKP: Don't double linklink items when shift clicking.
05:13.47NivFreakNeoTron: thanks
05:13.52NivFreakI'm liking your mod so far
05:14.01NivFreakI just installed it
05:14.02NeoTronit's definitely lacking shit
05:14.03NivFreakdid nothing
05:14.06NivFreakand clicked stuff
05:14.10NivFreakand it's doing decent tracking
05:14.13NivFreakI approve
05:14.32NeoTronworks for me :)
05:14.41NeoTronbut I'm not happy with using aceconfig as the UI for the raid database
05:14.50NeoTronso I plan to change that to, at least, use standalone ace gui
05:14.54NivFreakyea
05:14.56NivFreaksounds good
05:14.58NeoTronand of course it's missing the player database entirel
05:15.07NivFreakbasically I just uses these mods for attendance/loot at time of kill
05:15.09NivFreakso it's fine
05:15.09NeoTronwith alt handling and stuff too
05:15.28NivFreaknow I need something that sucks less than eqdkp to store and display this shit
05:15.36NeoTroneqdkp isn't TOO bad
05:15.39NivFreakand ideally be able to handle old ctrt dkp strings
05:15.39NeoTronthe damn import sucks
05:15.48NivFreakthe imports are aweful
05:15.50NeoTronthere's a website that hosts dkp for you
05:15.59NeoTronnot sure how good it is
05:16.05NeoTronbut I've seen some guilds use it
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05:16.16NivFreakI should just write my own =/
05:16.32NeoTronhttp://www.gsdkp.com/news.php?acc=12218
05:16.32CIA-4003yleaf * r71400 10Grid/Grid.toc: Grid: fix Note-zhCN in .toc
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05:17.19NeoTronanyhow on standby from hyjal so I can write a kalecgos addon for after hyjal
05:17.22NeoTronI have like 2 hrs :P
05:17.34NivFreakhah
05:17.56NeoTron2nd time ever I've been on standby
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05:18.05NeoTronand only reason I can be is because I made magicdkp and someone else is handlign dkp
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05:19.13avleenhey guys, i just updated to the latest Recount, and it's frequently putting "Recount: <name>" in my general tab
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05:21.47avleenanyone else sen that?
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05:25.40Funkeh`avleen, you should update
05:25.58avleenFunkeh`: i jsut did tonight about 3 hours ago :) hehe i'll do again
05:26.17Funkeh`3 hourw is a long time
05:26.23avleenthis is true!
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05:26.48CIA-4003funkydude * r71401 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: test better com matching
05:27.29avleenoh yeah look at that, 60 commits
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05:35.07CIA-40RepTracker:
05:35.07CIA-40<PROTECTED>
05:35.17digmouseuh, seems I got sth broken for cdt2
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05:49.01Diaook wtf
05:49.09Diaoi have minimalist selected as texture in surfacecontrol as well as quartz
05:49.15Diaoand it's still showing my old texture (litestep)
05:49.25Diaountil i go into quartz options and select another texture then set it back to minimalist :(
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06:06.25CIA-4003phanx * r71403 10Wishlist/: Wishlist: Fix svn-externals
06:07.41durcynsurface control still exists?
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06:18.51digmouseis there any event relative to fails of using item?
06:19.31[Ammo]UI_ERROR_MESSAGE :)
06:19.48digmouseuh
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06:28.01[Ammo]digmouse: you will get a UI_ERROR_MESSAGE with an argument "Can't use this itme right now" etc
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06:36.14Fisker-lol
06:38.55Elkanoanyone in here running Mendeleev with the "used in" tree enabled?
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06:39.58durcynElkano: yup.
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06:43.35Elkanolol ^^ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=46E4221400338DF570E12DC12ABC467F.app01_06?topicId=5784521764&pageNo=1&sid=1#15
06:44.09Elkanodurcyn: does the stuff with the icons in that tree work as intended for you? or are you getting wraps to the next tooltip line?
06:44.22Elkano(do you play with UI scale?)
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06:49.37Fisker-since when doesn't retribution aura tag anymore?
06:50.19durcynit works, and my ui scale is at .82.  that reminds me, though, limitUsedInTree is wonky :/
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06:55.26durcynshould just change it to limit to professions the character has, tbh
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06:59.33ArrowmasterElkano: tooltip wraps for me
06:59.47Elkanodamn :/
07:00.05ArrowmasterSET uiScale "0.63999998569489"
07:00.38Elkanolast time I checked before the commit it was working, but it wraps for me now again, too :/ also on minimal scale
07:01.08Elkanomaybe it's caused by fontstring:SetWidth(fontstring:GetWidth()) causing a wrap, too
07:01.23Arrowmasterhmm let me test something
07:02.51durcynobviously you should use .82 =P
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07:03.34Arrowmastertrying .641
07:04.05durcynElkano: oh, it's probably also worth noting that I checked it on ItemRefTooltip, and I just realized I have something else bumping IRT's width by 22
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07:04.31Elkanodurcyn, Links? ;)
07:04.39Elkanobut IRT wraps for me, too
07:04.44durcynDamnTekkub, actually
07:04.53durcyninline looks cleaner ;)
07:06.09Arrowmasterdo you get the wraping on items that are purchased for BoJ with the icon in the line?
07:06.29Arrowmasteri do but now im not getting the wraping on the compare tooltips
07:07.25Elkanobesides that, how do you like the idea with the icons in tooltip?
07:07.53Arrowmasterhmm
07:08.11Arrowmastertry /run SetCVar("uiScale", "0.64")
07:08.14Arrowmasterno wraping now
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07:09.28Arrowmasterseems the wraping is from rounding
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07:12.57durcynso why not just pad the SetWidth?
07:13.08Arrowmasterok this is weird
07:13.16Arrowmastervery very weird
07:13.36Paene?
07:13.54Arrowmasteri did /run SetCVar("uiScale", "0.64") and it fixed it, but if i go back to 0.641 which wasnt working before its not wraping again
07:14.22Arrowmasterand if i drag slider again to get it to 0.63999998569489 its still not wraping again
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07:16.24Arrowmastermaybe do 'if tonumber(GetCVar("uiScale")) < 0.64 then SetCVar("uiScale", "0.64") end'
07:16.52Arrowmasterok i cant even reproduce it with a uireload
07:16.58Arrowmasteri cant get it to wrap again!
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07:20.29Elkanoand a full relog?
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07:20.49Arrowmasterjust did reload, not relog
07:21.36Arrowmastertrying relog
07:22.00Elkanowell, for me your trick doesn't work :(
07:22.14Arrowmastersetting to exactly 0.64 didnt?
07:23.15Arrowmasterwhat was your uiScale at exactly?
07:23.27Arrowmasterim doing this with GameTooltip btw
07:24.04Paene~API GetSpellInfo
07:24.05purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo
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07:28.26Elkanoalso 0.6399...ish
07:28.48Arrowmastercompletely restarting wow with the 0.63999 ish scale
07:29.30Arrowmasterok weird
07:29.32Arrowmasternot wraping
07:29.47Arrowmasterbut nothing changed
07:31.45Elkanorestarted with 0.64... still wrapping
07:31.54Elkanoruning 1680x1050
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07:33.25Arrowmastertry 0.641
07:33.41Arrowmasterim using 1600x1200 btw
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07:38.00Kalroth1600x1200 is for people stuck in 2001!
07:38.43Arrowmasterpff i bought this lcd in like 2003 then got an insurance company to refund me the cost of it in 2004!
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07:38.59Arrowmasterno wait i think it was 2002
07:39.00Orionshockmorning all
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07:39.55CIA-4003paene * r71404 10/branches/Cryolysis3/:
07:39.55CIA-40Cryolysis3:
07:39.55CIA-40- I changed something several days ago, and can't remember...will change this if I do remember.
07:40.16Aiianehmm
07:40.19Aiianewho owns purl?
07:40.27Paeneckknight?
07:40.30PaeneI think
07:40.47Srosh~purl
07:40.48purlACTION purrs.
07:40.56Aiianenot very helpful :P
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07:41.24Aiiane~ckknight
07:41.25purlwell, ckknight is a strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself as well as the Rock framework, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, Parrot, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story.
07:41.38Srosh<PROTECTED>
07:41.47Aiianegood idea :P
07:41.47SroshDo that. purl is a network bot.
07:42.09Aiianehmm
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07:42.17Aiianek
07:46.05Matrix110~emulate ckknight
07:46.06purlnah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip
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07:53.31ag`~emulate ckknight
07:53.32purlI lounge on my bed, pantsless, and code addons
07:53.58ag`~emulate ckknight
07:53.59purlif I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to
07:54.23ag`~emulate ag
07:54.30Paene:(
07:54.33ag`~emulate ag`
07:54.33purl~haste
07:54.35Paenelol
07:54.42ag`~haste
07:54.43purla very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
07:55.02Paene~emulate Paene
07:55.06Paene:(
07:55.28durcyn~lart Paene
07:55.28purlteaches Paene the basics, including how to RTM
07:55.59Kalrothporn voices?
07:56.15ag`~haste
07:56.16purla very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
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07:58.07JY`~version
07:58.08purlversion is probably Kernel: uname -r.  Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1.  Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_.  Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -d
07:58.22JY`mmh
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07:58.35JY`purl: who are you ?
07:58.37purlJY`: I think you lost me on that one
07:58.45JY`haha
07:58.45durcynit's just an infobot, calm down
07:58.47durcyn~logs
07:58.48purlfrom memory, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
07:59.20JY`nice
07:59.25JY`written in perl
07:59.26JY`need that one
07:59.43JY`rbot is ruby :(
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08:04.23CIA-4003kurax * r71405 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua:
08:04.23CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
08:04.23CIA-40- Update zhCN beast names
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08:09.15CIA-4003totalpackage * r71406 10Capping/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
08:09.15CIA-40Capping:
08:09.15CIA-40- new timer bars with some more appearance options
08:09.15CIA-40- each timer bar now have a mini dropdown on right-click
08:09.15CIA-40- dust off some old code
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08:14.59[Ammo]Jzar: piong
08:15.16JzarAre you the same that wrote BetterInbox?
08:15.20[Ammo]yeah
08:15.30JzarBest mod I ever downloaded!
08:15.30luxusits sexy
08:15.34Jzartyvm  I just discovered it.
08:16.14[Ammo]hehe thanks
08:16.18lorielWhat does it do
08:16.20luxusdoes anyone have the problem that some addons don't displayed in ACP
08:16.39[Ammo]loriel: makes your inbox a scrollable inbox instead of a paging one
08:16.39Jzarwas going to make a feature request, but then I realized I should probably do that on wowi...
08:16.48JzarIt's the best mailmod out there.
08:16.49[Ammo]Jzar: shrug, shoot
08:17.00Jzarmake the tooltip use the normal tt anchor?
08:17.19[Ammo]Jzar: I kinda kept that the way the blizz has it
08:17.33JzarMaybe an option for it, then?
08:17.42durcynGameTooltip's default anchor is cursor, Jzar
08:17.46[Ammo]I'll think on it
08:17.52luxusi love to see my inbox from everywhere.. but i think this is not posible :(
08:17.55JzarYou know what I mean.
08:17.56durcynwait, nevermind
08:18.59[Ammo]I have to update betterinbox abit to use the new textures in fontstrings
08:19.02[Ammo]so the money glitches are gone
08:19.11[Ammo]*scribbles a todo*
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08:19.26[Ammo]omg oUF_DispelColor is made of FAIL
08:19.37[Ammo]some people just plain can't code
08:20.00CIA-4003durcyn * r71407 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/FuBar_SkillsPlusFu.toc: FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: clean babble cruft out of optdeps
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08:22.20mitch0[ammo]: s/some/most/
08:22.34[Ammo]there's so much wrong with it
08:23.13[Ammo]globals used to set macros, fucking up clickcasting addons, updating auras on health updates and power updates instead of aura events, ....
08:23.56[Ammo]most of those minimalistic squad people have no grasp of coding
08:24.08[Ammo]zim* addons are pretty horrible as well
08:26.20Orionshockhides his addons from the wrath of [Ammo]
08:27.48OrionshockNargiddley: ping?
08:27.51CIA-4003StiviS * r71408 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: esES updated
08:29.04MaelosSort of a random question, but has anyone done video editing of captures at 1.6 aspect ratios?
08:29.17NargiddleyOrionshock, pong
08:29.25MaelosAll editing software expects 16:9 or 4:3
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08:29.56OrionshockNargiddley: custom widgets in aceConfig, there is no option in the code for the "checkbox" type... any reason
08:30.21Nargiddleywhy would you want to replace a checkbox
08:30.42Orionshockhehe... cuz i want the tooltip for displaying an item tooltip :D
08:30.45Arrowmasteri doubt all software expects those resolutions since there are many other common ones, what software have you tried?
08:31.05MaelosI tried windows movie maker first
08:31.16Arrowmasterwell theres your first problem
08:31.28MaelosWell how about this, recommendations? :)
08:31.32NargiddleyOrionshock, the reason is to keep the spec from bloating too badly
08:31.38Arrowmastersony vegas is perty good ive heard
08:31.46Orionshockok, i can live with that
08:31.48Maelosthats what everyone seems to suggest
08:32.10Arrowmasterbut windows movie maker is complete fail
08:32.11MaelosWhat about premier elements?
08:32.26Arrowmasterthat should be ok too i think
08:32.29Nargiddleyinput and select are the ones that custom widgets can be used well, others its less gain
08:32.38MaelosWell movie maker does everything I need it to except the aspect ratio
08:33.06MaelosMy needs are fairly basic, I want to record wow videos like every other nub
08:33.17durcynwmv is the spawn of satan
08:33.18Orionshockok.. reason i ask is because in my addon, one part of it i use a config table & ppl where complaining that they don't know what they are looking at from just an item name. they wanted a tooltip..
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08:33.37durcynsatan being asf, in this case
08:33.41MaelosI should be against it for wmv alone considering I'm a *nix guy
08:34.15durcynanyway, i'll admit to using virtualdub and, of all things, imovie
08:34.26Maelosvirtualdub looks alright for compressing
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08:35.17durcynhm, isn't there a windows port of cinelerra?
08:35.36Arrowmasterif your a nix guy you should be able to make use of virtualdub, its been around long enough theres tons on info on the web on how to do stuff with it
08:40.57MaelosI'll try Vegas first and resort to virtualdub if that fails.
08:40.58CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r71409 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Options.lua ag_UnitClass.lua layouts/ABF.lua): ag_UnitFrames: string bug fixed
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08:49.23vithosin vegas you'll need to set up the "project" parameters to match your video parameters
08:49.36CIA-4003neotron 07LibBars-1.0 * r71410 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: If the destination group's hash doesn't exist in MoveBarToGroup, create it.
08:50.05NeoTroncurious, how coudl I commit that without the prefix that I forgot? hmm.
08:50.23mitch0neotron: it's not on trunk
08:50.43CIA-4003neotron * r71411 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: MagicTargets: Temporary fix for a nil name issue (?)
08:50.45NeoTronah
08:51.41durcynhmm, if that fixes my anchor move issues, i might kiss you.
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08:55.58PaeneCan you set bar colors in LibBars yet?
08:56.40durcynyes, :SetColorAt
08:56.43CIA-4003isler * r71412 10Grid/GridLocale-zhCN.lua: Grid: zhCN update
08:57.18durcynargs are x, r, g, b where x is the fill amount of the bar from 0 to 1
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09:00.12pschrineris there a way to call something like "/console characterAmbient" from an addon? Other than executing a macro when you login?
09:00.34CIA-4003belazor * r71413 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (243 files in 11 dirs):
09:00.34CIA-40Cryolysis3:
09:00.34CIA-40- Begin coding the LoD module stuff
09:01.44durcynmost of the console commands just set CVars, so if you found out which CVar that corresponded to, then yes
09:03.05CIA-4003totalpackage * r71414 10Capping/core.lua:
09:03.05CIA-40Capping:
09:03.05CIA-40- different approach to bar layouts
09:03.41Funkeh`you know if totalpackage was on irc right now...
09:05.05Funkeh`think ill make a libars pvp addon
09:07.18Orionshockis Benumbed here or someone who knows daHud really well?
09:10.50pschrinerdurcyn: thank you, that's the solution.
09:11.29Orionshockdidn't Antiarc make a "CVar-Editor" with aceConfig?
09:12.59durcynOrionshock: you mean like trunk/CVarEditor? =P
09:13.18Orionshockya i saw that one day and thought it was interesting...
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09:13.44Orionshockfigured i'd mention it.. prolly can cross reference what your changing with one of it's config tables :D
09:15.36Orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12878.msg208640#msg208640
09:15.41Orionshocktalk about scrolling the thread
09:17.37durcyntables were meant to be broken
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09:36.01FtH|Daemonairony, oh sweet irony ... http://s3.tinypic.com/6pvwox.jpg
09:37.43mortimermmh is there a way to check for specific buffs on units in a macro or do i have to check out how to do that in lua?
09:40.20KalrothFtH|Daemona: hahah
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09:41.46KalrothFtH|Daemona: You missed the top banner too :)
09:41.55Kalrothit's also a gold ad
09:42.21Kalrothoh, it's not your screenshot
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09:42.37KalrothOr maybe it is, your firefox speaks german
09:43.17Arrowmastermortimer: not possible
09:43.18Fisker-!care(); FtH|Daemona
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09:43.50KalrothThat's some pretty shitty syntax, Fisker. Are you a VB programmer by chance?
09:43.55FtH|Daemona1. its no my screenshot
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09:44.02FtH|Daemona2. my firefox doesnt speak german
09:44.20KalrothFtH|Daemona: Why not?!
09:44.34FtH|Daemonacause i dont have a text2speech addon?
09:44.38Kalroth..
09:44.48Kalroth~wedgie FtH|Daemona
09:44.50purlACTION hangs FtH|Daemona from the flag pole by his underwear
09:45.03FtH|Daemona~lart Kalroth
09:45.03purlwhips Kalroth with a wet and grimy noodle just because
09:45.09Kalroth~smack FtH|Daemona
09:45.10purlACTION smacks FtH|Daemona upside the head.
09:45.19FtH|Daemonasteals Kalroth's cookies. Mwahaha!
09:45.25Kalrothcries. :(
09:45.36Arrowmasterwhy the fuck does that firefox have two back/forward buttons
09:45.48Kalrothuhm, mine does too
09:46.05KalrothOne is a dropdrown back history list, other one is the real back
09:46.23Kalrothoh wtf
09:46.32FtH|Daemonalast time i checked... mine hat a mini dropdown next to each arrow
09:46.37FtH|Daemonaweird screenshot
09:46.39KalrothIt's two sets of buttons in the screenshot
09:46.41Kalrothyeah
09:46.44mortimerdamn it, no easy solution for a wf timer then :P
09:47.09Kalrothmortimer: Sure there is, use the totem, no cooldown!
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09:49.41mortimererr no, i need an addon to trck the wf cooldown while twisting totems. i had the hope to do that with quartz (triggering a bar as soon as i drop the grace of air totem with the castsequence macro)
09:49.44CIA-4003totalpackage * r71415 10StellarUF/ (9 files):
09:49.44CIA-40StellarUF:
09:49.44CIA-40- merged all of the modules into frames.lua
09:49.44CIA-40- redid castable buffs/debuffs timer bars
09:49.44CIA-40- minor tweaks and optimizations
09:52.03digmouseis there any event relative to fails of using item and pet skill?
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09:52.48Kalrothmortimer: ooh okay, that's a fair cause then
09:53.03Kalrothmortimer: being a dps warrior I like twisting enhance shamans :P
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09:54.31sicaour enh. shaman doesn't twist :((
09:54.37fsfoddigmouse: SPELL_CAST_FAILED idk about items but i think you might get it for pets spells
09:55.40Kalrothsica: gkick
09:55.48digmousefsfod: I use SPELL_CAST_FAILED for my spells
09:56.00digmousebut dont work for item and pet
09:56.12mortimeryou have so many free gcds, there is absolutly no reason to not twist
09:56.25Kalrothmortimer: Mana issues?
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09:56.31CIA-4003totalpackage * r71416 10StellarUF/frames.lua:
09:56.31CIA-40StellarUF:
09:56.31CIA-40- last minute fix
09:56.34digmousedidnt find entry of pet skill fail or item fail in combatlog
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09:56.41mortimerJoW + SR
09:56.55sicamortimer: I asked him, he's too lazy :((
09:57.13KalrothWe rarely ever have JoW up, we don't have a retardin
09:58.45sicaour protpala takes care of JoW
09:59.52Deloralamost of the time, we run with 2 prot pallys ;)
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10:00.07Deloralame with 49/12 and jow
10:00.17Deloralathe other is 40-21 with holy aura and 3% crit^^
10:00.32mortimerour protpally respecs to ret if needed, so JoW is almost a given
10:00.43Deloralai'd LOVE to respec
10:00.49Deloralabut they wont let me
10:00.58Deloralathey insist 2 protpallys is ubert
10:01.00Delorala-t
10:01.27sicawe only raid with one, other tanks are a feral druid and a prot warrior
10:01.40Deloralai'd really love to go as retri OR!!! reroll my huntard :D
10:01.54mortimermost of the time he tanks the trash, i don't knoe how happy he is with that position... ;)
10:02.04Deloralayeah we're having slight probs with our ferals.. we dont have any reliable
10:02.52sicaour protpala tanks the trash and heals on bosses, but he's not happy with it :)
10:03.18Xinhuanlol paene, svn diff is how u remember what changed ;p
10:04.21mortimeras long as he tanks hyjal for us and does respectable dps on brutallus, i don't really care ;)
10:04.43sicaa
10:06.03sicamaybe our protpala will respec to retri for brutallus, he got really nice gear, torch of the damned and stuff like that :)
10:06.50phyberArrowmaster: I see you added a few mobs to topscorefu recently, so i'll ask you this question!  Do you think it's a good idea for me to move those lists over to using the NPCID instead of mob name?  Should mean that it doesn't have to be localized, etc, I think.
10:07.23Arrowmasteryeah, im just lazy and didnt want to rewrite more of it
10:08.11phyberok, cool. :)  I have half of it done already, started some stuff last week but stopped when I wasn't sure how the destGUID was passed.
10:08.22phyberdon't know if it's given as a string or number.
10:08.25Cheadsphyber: an idea... include a column(optional?) so you can see your topscores again vulnerable mobs ? =)
10:08.37Cheads..not that it matter much =)
10:08.44Arrowmasterthat would require storing that info
10:08.56Cheadsyeah
10:09.08Arrowmasterphyber: its string btw
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10:09.19dieck_btw, is there any "getNPCname(NPCID)" function?
10:09.23phyberArrowmaster: great!  :)
10:09.53digmousereading through wowwiki but dont find anything about the fail of pet skill and use of items
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10:12.30ThiefMasterhi, anyone knows if cartographer_questobjectives needs an additional addon containing data? i just installed it and even though i do have some quests i don't see anything on the map (i also don't get any addon errors)
10:15.40digmouseyou need to complete a quest or get data from others to see icons on the minimap indicating relative npcs or mobs, or you can import from CA_QuestInfo, but that only has zhCN and zhTW for now
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10:16.27SunTsuThiefMaster: As digmouse said: You won't see anything until you yourself discovered questgivers and -objectives
10:16.53ThiefMasterah
10:17.07ThiefMasterso that addon is quite useless atm since i only get data for quests i already completed? :o
10:17.30SunTsuThiefMaster: Sort of, it is useful for dailies and for alts
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10:17.47digmousenod
10:18.02ThiefMasteryou don't need such an addon for dailies since you usually know them well enough though
10:18.06digmouseor you can seek for others' collected data
10:18.10SunTsuAnd for remembering where the quest giver was
10:18.10ThiefMasterit would be great if it could import data from mobmap
10:18.21digmousejust use mobmap then
10:18.29digmouseor QuestHelper
10:18.35SunTsuOr lightheaded
10:18.48digmouseor Carbonite Quest
10:18.56digmouseA lot of choices :D
10:20.36CIA-4003kurax * r71417 10/branches/5MQuanQuan/ (10 files in 3 dirs): 5MQuanQuan: Add "FoodDrink" module
10:21.37SunTsuThiefMaster: BTW. does mobmap work with cartographer for you?
10:24.01digmouse-.- isn't there any event for item use failure and pet skill fail? didnt got anything from wowwiki
10:24.32ThiefMasteryes
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10:29.44CIA-4003kunda * r71418 10GridIndicatorCornerText/ (5 files):
10:29.44CIA-40GridIndicatorCornerText:
10:29.44CIA-40- initial commit
10:29.44CIA-40- Import from Slaren's post
10:29.44CIA-40- Adds four text indicators to Grid.
10:29.58omegadoes anyone know of an addon that displays the ammount of damage left in dots on a mob?
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10:30.14omegaand preferably how much is lacking, based on the mobhealth info
10:30.16[Ammo]digmouse: I already told you item use failure = UI_ERROR_MESSAGE, pet skill failure is probably from the combatevent_unfiltered
10:30.29[Ammo]item use failure might be in the unfiltered as ewll
10:31.21digmouseAmmo: how can I track whether there is those events exists?
10:31.57Arrowmasteryou can also get item failure from the combatlog too i think
10:32.27CIA-4003kunda * r71419 10GridIndicatorText3/GridIndicatorText3.lua: GridIndicatorText3: fix possible font issue
10:32.30digmouseSeems no item use failure in combatlog as far as I see
10:32.46Arrowmasterit would be together with general spell failure
10:34.10digmouseat least not SPELL_CAST_FAILED, maybe sth. else, I use that for tracking spells and works but dont do on item and pet
10:35.10Arrowmasterwhatever event it is that does messages in the combatlog for not enough mana, not in range, out of line of sight errors
10:35.40CIA-4003kunda * r71420 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-deDE.lua: AckisRecipeList: deDE update
10:35.44CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r71421 10ag_UnitFrames/ (22 files in 15 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: moved options and option locales into subfolder
10:36.40digmouseyes, I only get failed type of spells, no item and pet entries found
10:36.45CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r71422 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/ (embeds.xml libs/): ag_UnitFrames: add options externals
10:37.10[Ammo]digmouse: then you're stuck with UI_ERROR_MESSAGE
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10:38.18digmouseuh, just reading through passages of UI_ERROR_MESSAGE to grab some info
10:38.33digmouseseems i cant get more from combatlogs
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10:40.54CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r71423 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: added options externals xml to toc
10:40.57CIA-4003kunda * r71424 10GridStatusKalecgos/GridStatusKalecgos.lua: GridStatusKalecgos: deDE fix
10:41.01CIA-4003Zimran * r71425 10zimGreed/ (zimGreed.lua zimGreed.toc):
10:41.01CIA-40zimGreed:
10:41.01CIA-40- Removed AddonLoader stuff.
10:41.01CIA-40- Changed versioning.
10:41.01CIA-40- Cleaned up some code.
10:42.03CIA-4003Zimran * r71426 10zimCoords/zimCoords.toc:
10:42.03CIA-40zimCoords:
10:42.03CIA-40- Removed AddonLoader stuff.
10:42.20evlDoes Windfury totem emit any kind of aura or is it only detectable once it's on the weapon?
10:43.04CIA-4003Zimran * r71427 10zimClock/zimClock.toc:
10:43.04CIA-40zimClock:
10:43.04CIA-40- Removed AddonLoader stuff.
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10:43.44luxuszimran seems bored :D
10:44.30CIA-4003Zimran * r71428 10Yap/ (Yap.lua Yap.toc):
10:44.30CIA-40Yap:
10:44.30CIA-40- Removed AddonLoader stuff.
10:44.30CIA-40- Changed version stuff.
10:44.30CIA-40- Removed comment stuff.
10:44.32CIA-4003belazor * r71429 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
10:44.33CIA-40Cryolysis3:
10:44.35CIA-40- LoD class modules now produce meaningful error messages if they fail to load (in some cases).
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10:45.16CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r71430 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 4 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: moved AceConsole to options
10:46.22luxusag`: can you look into libhealthcomm-3.0 and libmobhealth-4.0 ?
10:46.30luxussupport for aguf
10:48.17ag`yeah, when I'm done with all the other stuff, trying not to add new features atm, just polishing
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10:49.37digmouseand any custom layout news?
10:49.54ag`new stuff is in on branches
10:49.59mikmaag`: recode plx
10:50.09digmouseI'll look into that
10:50.15ag`mikma: wut
10:50.34mikmaag`: everything
10:51.02ag`mikma: I did
10:51.15mikmaag`: now, do it again
10:51.37ag`no, I just did
10:51.47ag`no need to again if I just did it :P
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10:53.06CIA-4003phyber * r71431 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
10:53.06CIA-40FuBar_TopScoreFu:
10:53.06CIA-40- Get rid of BabbleBoss usage by using NPCIDs for vulnerable mobs.
10:53.06CIA-40- Removed some old Parser-3.0 functions.
10:53.06CIA-40- Drycoded goodness, may kick your dog.
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10:53.45kilroggmornin'
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10:58.31Arrowmasterphyber: i hope you got the right mobids for the kael stuff
11:01.03CIA-4003kunda * r71432 10GridStatusKalecgos/GridStatusKalecgos.lua: GridStatusKalecgos: deDE +e:)
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11:02.36luxusi want topscore without the fubar_ and the fu.. perhaps with more statblocks_
11:03.40digmouseget messed in UI_ERROR_MESSAGE and the combatlog events... seems I need more knowledge to handle the coding
11:05.11CIA-4003ennuilg * r71433 10scorchio/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
11:05.11CIA-40scorchio:
11:05.11CIA-40- Added Raid Target Icons and configuration options.
11:05.11CIA-40- Reworked "Receive data from combat log events in range". Switching this off
11:05.11CIA-40will now only parse messages created by you, or where it affects a mob you have
11:05.14CIA-40in your scorchTable. This is useful in busy zones where you're soloing and the
11:05.16CIA-40new combat log methodology will bring up bars for people scorching mobs from
11:05.20CIA-4003pettigrow * r71434 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: frFR Update
11:05.58ThiefMasteri wonder why you cannot define own mt targets in ora if you don't have lead/assist :x
11:06.09luxusag`: and what is different after the recoding? just preformance thing?
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11:11.07phyberArrowmaster: yeah, I made sure to get the NPCIDs and not the item ids of the weapons ;)
11:11.26phyberand where there were 2x Phoenix, I took the older NPCID, since the newer one is probably for the MgT versions.
11:13.57CIA-4003next96 * r71435 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
11:13.57CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
11:13.57CIA-40- Update locale koKR
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11:17.57CIA-40GrimReaper:
11:17.57CIA-40- Fixed scale not saving correctly
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11:32.29CIA-4003belazor * r71437 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (Core/ Cryolysis3.lua textures/background.tga):
11:32.29CIA-40Cryolysis3:
11:32.29CIA-40- Begin coding the frame/button creation
11:32.42Groktarmoans suggestively at CIA-40
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11:33.49Fisker-nevcairiel
11:34.14Fisker-i know you're there
11:34.22Fisker-or else some kind of sag_ich_nicht is there
11:34.29Groktarhmm?
11:34.43Groktardoes something dirty to nevcairiel
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11:35.33Fisker-Gandharva
11:35.36Fisker-you're a german
11:35.46Fisker-You know any german price sites for hardware?
11:35.53sag_ich_nichtoh hai
11:35.56sag_ich_nichtgeizhals.at
11:35.57sag_ich_nichtimho
11:36.09Fisker-exactly the one i wanted
11:36.09Fisker-wee
11:36.15Fisker-has sex with sag_ich_nicht
11:36.18Gandharvahttp://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/
11:36.22sag_ich_nichtis immune
11:36.34Groktarbegins to cast Mass Dispel
11:36.45sag_ich_nichtis immune
11:36.55Groktarhehe
11:37.03Groktari love the immune message from mass dispel
11:37.03Gandharvaor http://www.preistrend.de/ but geizhals is better imo.
11:37.33sag_ich_nichtGroktar how you get that? :P
11:37.44sag_ich_nicht100% dispell resist chance?
11:38.25dieck_Fisker-: generally spoken: if you can get a friend/colleague to bring some hardware from $DollarCountry when visiting/returning to Germany, get it :)
11:39.01GandharvaFisker-: and i'm not german. i'm from austria ;)
11:39.22sag_ich_nichtsame here :P
11:39.29Fisker-your host said .de
11:39.34Fisker-so me wins
11:39.34Fisker-rawr
11:39.46sag_ich_nichtmhm
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11:39.53Gandharvayeah, living in munich atm
11:39.54sag_ich_nichti claim he's from austria but living in germany
11:39.59sag_ich_nichtTOLD YOU
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11:40.09dieck_Munich is not Germany. It's Bayern (bavaria) :)
11:40.20Fisker-you're probably both from the town of FUCKING
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11:40.30ncd|AileenBavaria should be Austria
11:40.34ncd|Aileennot Germany.
11:40.44Stanzillao rly?
11:40.46dieck_ncd|Aileen: exactly how all non-bavarian Germans feel :)
11:42.12Gandharvaok, we take bavaria and you get east germany twice:P
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11:46.03SunTsuGandharva: That's no problem, eastern germany is nearly empty ;)
11:46.24Gandharva^^
11:46.33mortimernot empty enough...
11:47.30ncd|Aileeneasy germany should go to poland, no problem!
11:47.47ncd|Aileen*east
11:48.16sag_ich_nicht[13:40] <ncd|Aileen> Bavaria should be Austria <--no, get out
11:48.20sag_ich_nichtwe don't want bavaria
11:49.11ncd|Aileenno one wants bavaria
11:49.11ncd|Aileen:)
11:49.29Stanzillameany :(
11:52.28Deloralagive it to china^^
11:53.06Deloralai mean since stoiber left, there arent funny news anymore from bayern^^
11:53.27Deloralathats the only thing it has been good for
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11:55.06dieckI think Stoibern hasn't yet filled out all the formulars neccessary for simplifying the burocratic processes in Europe. When he's finished, there will be news about him again :)
11:55.23SunTsuDelorala: What disturbs me most is that Stoiber has gone to the EU
11:55.53Deloralayeah SunTsu, now we are ALL doomed, not just them...
11:56.09dieckSunTsu: yes, in order to simplify the burocratic processes. "No one wants him, give him a post where he can't do anything gruesome". :)
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11:58.02CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r71438 10BigWigs/ (20 files in 10 dirs):
11:58.02CIA-40BigWigs:
11:58.02CIA-40- Update zhTW localization.
11:58.56Mera>Scare Beast: The range on this spell has been increased to 30 yards and it is now instant cast. awesome :p
11:59.10CIA-4003belazor * r71439 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (15 files in 7 dirs):
11:59.10CIA-40Cryolysis3:
11:59.10CIA-40- Folder cleanup
11:59.10CIA-40- Options code begin
11:59.36vithosAntiarc: the scrolldown reminder on chatter often shows up after changing tabs even when you're scrolled all the way down in both tabs involved
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12:14.48odthow do i open the game menu when ESC for some reason doesn't do anything
12:14.54Fisker-has sex with sag_ich_nicht
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12:21.15sag_ich_nichtis immune
12:21.36dylanmodt: /run ToggleGameMenu()?
12:22.25sag_ich_nichtno
12:22.36sag_ich_nicht/run ToggleGameMenu();
12:22.43sag_ich_nichtfool, you forgot a semicolon.
12:22.48sag_ich_nichtthat is unclean
12:24.25CIA-4003phyber * r71440 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc Libs/ TopScoreFu.lua):
12:24.25CIA-40FuBar_TopScoreFu:
12:24.25CIA-40- Remove BabbleBoss external.
12:26.54Fisker-anyone know the formula for exp + group bonuses?
12:27.13ZhinjioG'morning.
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12:31.13frysag_ich_nicht: semicolons are unclean in lua so welp
12:32.35sag_ich_nichtshhhh
12:32.45sag_ich_nichtyou're ruining my sabotage action here
12:32.49sag_ich_nicht~lart fry
12:32.49purlwhacks fry upside the head
12:33.09hastethis is a machine for making cows.
12:36.59Tinyboomwtb a death ray to use on stupid people making stupid requests to the helpdesk..... they're like fucking lemmings....
12:38.42Tinyboomhmmm, that would be mean to the lemmings, they are way worse than lemmings... even goldfish could probably remember their password longer....
12:39.09chdstWe have a "ticket of the day" that's done a good job of preventing that. The stupidest ticket is posted every day in an anonymous way with the reason for why it's stupid.
12:39.42phyberqwerty is a hard password to remember!  set it to 123 plx.
12:39.43chdstOf course, it's all corporatified and all that, so nobody's feeling get hurt, but...it still works.
12:40.59sag_ich_nichtno Tinyboom
12:41.02sag_ich_nichtthey are sheeple
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12:43.15sag_ich_nichtalso the best policy to make them remember their password is to force the use of 24 letter passwords for one month and no possible changes of passwords for "security reasons", your excuse for doing this is "the suspicion of an intruder in the system, trying to steal company secrets"
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12:43.54sag_ich_nichtsuddently, they'll be so glad about the day when it's over that they won't forget their passwords for quite some time.
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12:57.21CIA-4003Carlos * r71441 10BigWigs/ (18 files in 8 dirs): BigWigs: Fixed some Spanish (esES) typos... *blushes*
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13:01.16CIA-4003pettigrow * r71442 10Capping/locals/localization-frFR.lua:
13:01.16CIA-40Capping:
13:01.16CIA-40- frFR Update
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13:07.30CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r71443 10ag_UnitFrames/ (7 files in 6 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: config can be opened from blizz panel
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13:11.20CIA-40FuBar_QuestsFu:
13:11.20CIA-40- Detached: added options to set font size and transparency
13:14.23CIA-4003ag 07ag_Options * r71446 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options.toc: ag_Options: Set as LoD
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13:21.35Julith8866how can i show the skills, talents, charakter, etc-bar when using infinibar?
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13:35.39gregor1hi everyone; can anyone suggest me a good "critical recorded"? you know.. that would tell me what's my new max crit for spell/heal?
13:37.32CIA-4003kunda * r71449 10Capping/locals/localization-deDE.lua: Capping: deDE update
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13:37.57gregor1none?
13:39.02kilroggtry eavesdrop
13:39.24sacarasci use Top ScoreFu myself
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13:40.59gregor1ty both
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13:46.31CIA-4003polarina * r71450 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc):
13:46.31CIA-40Relegation:
13:46.31CIA-40<PROTECTED>
13:48.26Silviu-Polarina update Valuation, less love to Relegation
13:48.27Silviu-;-))
13:48.39PolarinaSilviu-: Doesn't it work?
13:48.43Silviu-No :P
13:48.47Silviu-*kidding*
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13:51.20vhaarrhaste: privmsg
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13:53.52CIA-4003chexsum * r71451 10KillingSpree/ (KillingSpree.lua KillingSpree.toc):
13:53.52CIA-40KillingSpree:
13:53.52CIA-40- Added PVP check
13:53.52CIA-40- Fixed a couple of problems
13:55.52Meragregor1: yes TopScoreFu awesome
13:56.52chexsum_killingspree shows record hit/crit heal/damage
13:57.38AmadeoOpera 9.5 Beta 2 is out, if anyone cares!
13:57.50CIA-4003belazor * r71452 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (11 files in 6 dirs):
13:57.50CIA-40Cryolysis3:
13:57.50CIA-40- Dynamic frame creation working
13:57.50CIA-40- Dynamic frame and button positioning working
13:57.51CIA-40- Moar folder cleanup
13:57.59chexsum_firefox for life
13:59.35Merayep ff + noscript + cookiesafe = very strong security
13:59.46AmadeoOpera's quirky, but it's a great browser
13:59.49AmadeoIt's super fast
13:59.59AmadeoI don't think you need any addons for Opera to make it safe
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14:00.36Meraff so but there is lots of plugin to manage this quickly
14:00.53AmadeoI use both...Opera is my main, and once something doesn't work, I go to Firefox :P
14:01.15CIA-4003kunda * r71453 10Grid/GridLocale-deDE.lua: Grid: deDE update
14:01.33Silviu-I prefer Firefox over Opera no ideea why
14:01.34Silviu-;-)
14:01.40Meraadblock + adblock element hider you can visually hide anything on a website you dont want it rocks
14:02.05AmadeoI use an .ini file in Opera to block ads, works great
14:02.15Merayou just mouseover anythng and bybye^^
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14:09.08chiper_fucking halfassed javascript interpreter, breaking my shit
14:11.05AmadeoOpera isn't for everyone, but if you have a slower/older computer, it's the fastest thing around by far
14:11.12AmadeoFirefox is a pig on this old laptop
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14:13.24Silverstormlovely...casting UA fires spell_aura_applied, but not spell_cast_success like corruption does
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14:14.44Silverstormbut corruption also fires spell_aura_applied
14:14.50GagorianBlizzard - Causing addon developers headaches since 2004
14:15.02digmouselol
14:15.28Silverstormtrying to write a new 2.4 DoT Timer that does what I want...after I figure out wth Blizz did with the new CLEU
14:15.52digmouseDoTimer is OK i think
14:16.04Kalman|Silverstorm: You can look at what I did with DotDotDot to get an idea of one way to handle it.
14:16.18Silverstormit's still "functional"...but old and bloated, and inaccurate on timers/deaths
14:16.52GagorianYeah DoTimer is way heavier than needed
14:17.02KaaosaSorren's seems to be the best atm
14:17.08KaaosaBut yeah, I'd kill for a better one.
14:17.12KaaosaToo lazy to write my own :V
14:17.16digmouseSorrenTimers has a fan update
14:17.36KaaosaYeah
14:17.43SilverstormI looked at the site for Sorren's...seems like more than I want
14:17.43KaaosaThat's what I've got currently
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14:18.41digmouseSorrenTimers is pretty tidy
14:18.59digmouseno such mess of things like NECB or DOTimer
14:19.32AmadeoDoes it do diminishing returns?
14:20.06ToadkillerBetter than Incubator?
14:20.08ramozdoes Sorren's have support for multiple targets?
14:20.14KaaosaYes
14:20.15Kalman|Silverstorm: Like I said, take a look at DotDotDot.  See if it'll work for you, and if not, let me know why not.
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14:20.31KaaosaThe fan update of Sorren's uses GUIDs and all that fancy stuff
14:20.32digmouseseems no DR
14:20.36digmouseya
14:20.37CIA-4003toadkiller * r71454 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarClassBar.lua ChangeList.lua):
14:20.37CIA-40AutoBar :
14:20.37CIA-40-- Dragging to bar drop spot now appends button instead of putting it into position 1
14:20.54Silverstormalright, I'll take a look at it, but I'll probably still write my own :-p
14:20.55KaaosaI thought Sorren's had DR
14:21.05digmousedont remember
14:21.12Fisker-~seen pastamancer
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14:21.25digmouseI'll look into that
14:21.25Kalman|Hey, I wrote my own, far be it from me to discourage someone else.  Mostly I just want more feedback.  :)
14:21.31Fisker-lieks pastamancer though
14:21.35Fisker-kthx for the grid update :P
14:21.39kadrahillieks Fisker-
14:21.43digmouseI thouth Purl ignored you Fisker lol
14:21.43kadrahiltoo
14:21.48digmouse*thought
14:21.55kadrahilFisker-: post screenshots of your UI plz
14:22.02kadrahilFisker-: i needs a new ui
14:22.08digmouseme too
14:22.09kadrahilbut i'm like, what's the point of addons
14:22.14kadrahilt.t
14:22.29ToadkillerYeah I must say I like debuff type outlining added yesterday to Grid
14:22.42kadrahili'm not trolling, i use bigwigs and omen for raiding :P
14:23.00CIA-4003snago * r71455 10IHML/locales/ (6 files):
14:23.00CIA-40IHML:
14:23.00CIA-40- Improved Razorthorn Rise macro.
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14:23.43ZhinjioG'morning Ackis
14:23.49AckisWorkMorning
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14:24.49Hjaltephyber: http://ace.pastey.net/86536 TopScoreFu error
14:25.50digmouseWhat's the time now in the western coast of US?
14:26.00AckisWork7:30ish
14:26.01kadrahil7:25am
14:26.28CIA-4003gagorian * r71456 10DrDamage/ (Aura.lua Caster.lua Data/Druid.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua):
14:26.28CIA-40DrDamage:
14:26.28CIA-40- Added darkmoon faire card and some foods to manually selectable effects
14:26.28CIA-40- Fixed Rake being affected by mitigation
14:26.28CIA-40- Performance optimization (less function calls) and a few more global functions are now local
14:26.35digmouseseems I need to review some geographic on timezones
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14:26.49Mera16:26 in france
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14:27.05digmouse22:26 in China, time to have some sleep
14:27.11Mera:o
14:27.32kadrahildoes the author of macaceupdater still maintain or update it for anything other than bugs?
14:27.45digmousebut I decide to stay for a while to complete some dailies with my girl lol
14:28.43kadrahiloh, it's on his google code page that he doesn't have time to
14:28.44profalbertIs there any way to lookup which spellId is put in the Combatlog by Arcane Blast without playing a mage?
14:28.44CIA-4003gagorian * r71457 10DrDamage/Caster.lua:
14:28.44CIA-40DrDamage:
14:28.44CIA-40- And a bug fix to the last commit *whistle*
14:29.19digmouseprofalbert: you mean get the spellid of Arcane Blast?
14:29.36profalbertdigmouse, I can look it up on wowhead i know that
14:29.50profalbertbut that's not the spellId that's put in the combatlog
14:30.03profalbertcause the one in the combatlog has another icon
14:30.34digmousethe spellids in combat log seems to be in a different style
14:30.50profalbertfor some spells yeah
14:31.09AckisWorkZhinjio: someone reported that the + sign doesn't work with ARL anymore
14:31.31digmousehex?
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14:36.28digmousehow can I track a trinket's buff? I mean, I know the trinket's buff but wanna link to it by its combatlog event
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14:37.21|Kev|kadrahil: the author is looking for someone to take over maintanence
14:37.52CIA-4003ag 07ag_Extras * r71458 10ag_UnitFrames/ (10 files in 5 dirs): ag_Extras: Moved rangecheck, portrait etc. here
14:38.03Matrix110hmmm
14:38.11Matrix110i guess these changes to aguf means reconfiguring!
14:38.12profalber1digmouse you can lookup the ID of the trinket's buff by its name (i.e. "Blessing of the silver crescent") on wowhead an then do a GetSpellLink(id) on that id
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14:38.44profalber1i think
14:38.46CIA-4003ag 07ag_Options * r71459 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_ModuleOptions.lua ag_Options.lua ag_Options.toc): ag_UnitFrames: Moved module config into options addon
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14:38.54[sync]hello?
14:39.08[sync]I see theres ALOT of people here, anyone active?
14:39.11kadrahil|Kev|: i just sent him an email
14:39.16[sync]Nice.
14:39.18kadrahil|Kev|: is the author... you?
14:39.23CIA-4003ag 07Ace3 * r71460 10ag_UnitFrames/ (10 files in 10 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: Moved module config into options addon part 2
14:39.40[sync]Would anyone inform me there is an alternative to XLoot (As it doesnt work in 2.4)
14:39.51Matrix110it does work as iam using it?
14:39.57[sync]O.o!
14:39.59[sync]are you seriois?
14:40.03Matrix110logout
14:40.03[sync]which version is this
14:40.07Matrix110Load out of Date Addons
14:40.07Matrix110:P
14:40.16[sync]yeah i did that
14:40.17[sync]i think
14:40.17[sync]mm
14:40.18[sync]thanks
14:40.23digmousee.g I know the buff of Bloodlust Brooch, that's "Lust for Battle", and if I wanna use Bloodlust Brooch while in cooldown, I'll get a SPELL_CAST_FAILED event for Lust for Battle, but how can I indicate that to Bloodlust Brooch to show me it's in cooldown?
14:40.30Matrix110got the newest version of files.wowace.com
14:40.33Zyndromewas gonna say Butsu ;<
14:40.36|Kev|kadrahil: it is
14:40.46mikmahaste-addon mentioned
14:40.50mikmacall off the fanbois
14:40.58kadrahil|Kev|: well, you have an email :) sent it to the one in MAU's about window
14:41.13|Kev|ok, I shall read that in a bit - currently swamped with work
14:41.20kadrahil|Kev|: understood
14:41.28luxusag` is going crazy ;D
14:41.30[sync]Yeah, I tried Butsu
14:41.34[sync]doesnt look as good
14:41.39dylanmHEAR THAT haste
14:41.49hasteoh shi-! Where's my napalm?!
14:41.53kadrahili want to start coding wow addons, or libraries soon
14:41.56kadrahilwhen i get some more time
14:42.03profalber1digmouse: I think you can only get the cooldown of the Item not the effect
14:42.06hasteyou don't need SVN access to code
14:42.08hastetrue story
14:42.24kadrahili wasn't asking for it
14:42.31CIA-4003phyber * r71461 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua:
14:42.31CIA-40FuBar_TopScoreFu:
14:42.31CIA-40- Add missing ()
14:42.42[sync]oh nice
14:42.44[sync]xloot works
14:42.46[sync]thanks
14:42.51digmouseprofalber: my goal is to tell me the trinket is in cooldown if I use it that time, by pulsing its cooldown timer
14:42.55phyberHjalte: try now, that should fix it
14:43.43digmousethat way is good for spells, but I cant track the items
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14:46.19kadrahilWhat kind of routes does the Routes addon put on your world/minimap? optimal gathering routes?
14:46.44SunTsukadrahil: More ore less, yes, with a little bit of randomness
14:47.00kadrahilSunTsu: is the cartographer_routes module the same thing basically?
14:47.32JY`kadrahil: it is a fork
14:47.34KaaosaRoutes is essentially a new and improved version of Cart_routes
14:47.37kadrahilahh
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14:47.42SunTsukadrahil: You can see Routes as a more developed version
14:47.50kadrahili'll check it out :)
14:48.04kadrahilkind of in class at the moment :(
14:48.21PaeneAnyone here familiar or decent with scheme?
14:48.29profalber1digmouse: I think that's not possible with the combatlog. maybe there is some item_activate event?
14:48.45|Kev|kadrahil: replied :)
14:48.56digmouseprofalber1: I'll look into that, thanks
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14:50.22kadrahil|Kev|: got it, thanks :)
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14:50.57CIA-4003pastamancer * r71462 10Grid/GridCore.lua: Grid: moved library check to Grid:OnEnable where it belongs.
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14:52.58Elsiaheya
14:53.16SilverstormKalman|: DotDotDot won't detect UA if I unselect the target before it finishes casting, which is the same problem I think I'm gonna have to solve
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14:55.12Kalman|Silverstorm: I don't think it's a particularly solvable problem unless you want to go back to the old method of databasing durations and using those.
14:55.36Silverstormyeah, that's kinda teh conclusion I'm coming to, unfortunately
14:55.39digmouseand there's no records of pet skill fails in combatlog
14:55.53Kalman|Well, I can think of some methods for solving it, actually, but they're all a little hacky and would require *someone* still be targeting it.
14:56.42Silverstormthat was my other question.  I haven't tested ... in a raid, but what if another lock casts UA on your target?
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14:58.12dylanmSame deal really. I mean I guess he could sync with you or you could just have a spell database like Kalman| said.
14:58.38Kalman|That one's not bad, just test if the debuff returns a duration with UnitDebuff.
14:58.45Kalman|If no duration, it's someone else's.
14:58.58dylanmOh I thought you wanted to have a bar for it. My bad.
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14:59.39GagorianIn what case do you need to database durations?
15:00.12GagorianOnly UA?
15:00.14Kalman|In the case of detecting debuff application to a non-targeted mob.
15:00.15Silverstormyou wouldn't need to DB durations...but somehow know to check after X seconds for a UA that belongs to you on a given GUID
15:00.28Kalman|You can't check debuffs by GUID or it'd be fairly easy.
15:00.44Kalman|Unless unitdebuff suddenly started accepting guid as a valid argument and I didn't get the memo?
15:00.47CIA-4003zhinjio * r71463 10/branches/SKG/ (18 files in 3 dirs):
15:00.47CIA-40SuicideKingsGeo :
15:00.47CIA-40<PROTECTED>
15:01.50dylanmI mean I guess you wouldn't really need to database it in the sense that you could parse out duration information for your own spells.
15:01.54Silverstormcould a timer be set to check for a resist message?  if no message, start countdown
15:02.05CIA-4003ackis * r71464 10AckisRecipeList/ (11 files in 3 dirs):
15:02.05CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
15:02.05CIA-40- Update for drops off of Kael in MrT (I pity the fool!)
15:02.05CIA-40- Fix for Enchant Cloak - Subtlety
15:02.06CIA-40- Added Babble Boss, need to add to SVN:Externals, but that'll wait til I'm home with my nice GUI ToroiseSVN :P
15:02.07CIA-40- All dry-coded
15:02.14Silverstormbut then you have to handle pushback, I think
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15:07.15Fisker-still lieks pastamancer
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15:07.23CIA-4003onlyfly * r71465 10EquivalencePoints/ (Console.lua locale/enUS.lua locale/zhCN.lua):
15:07.23CIA-40EquivalencePoints:
15:07.23CIA-40- Add locale zhCN
15:07.23CIA-40Why not add "L["_cmd _name Empty Lines"] = "Empty Lines""?added.
15:07.43CIA-4003arthiceu * r71466 10LootToGuild/ (22 files in 8 dirs):
15:07.43CIA-40LootToGuild: initial commit
15:07.43CIA-40- In raid, broadcast epic-loot to the guild-channel
15:07.43CIA-40- Quickly coded to help somebody in Addon Ideas
15:07.44CIA-40- Only works in English locales
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15:09.37Silverstormok, think I might have an answer...when you get the spell_Cast_start, set a timer to check when it should be done.  if not done, reset timer for new time left, else start dot timer
15:09.39CIA-4003arthiceu * r71467 10LootToGuild/libs/:
15:09.39CIA-40LootToGuild
15:09.39CIA-40- Deleted externals directory on the SVN
15:11.35pastamancerhai Fisker- I herd u liek me
15:12.45EvilJohn-Please check this box [ ] Yes  [ ] No  [ ] Maybe
15:13.08digmouse[¡Ì] Yes
15:13.24AckisWorkeveryone likes you!
15:14.12Fisker-yeah pastamancer
15:14.17Fisker-[x] YES YES YES
15:14.18CIA-4003arthiceu * r71468 10LootToGuild/:
15:14.18CIA-40LootToGuild:
15:14.18CIA-40- Specified Externals in properties (SVN)
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15:14.47Fisker-now that gridstatusraiddebuff guy just needs to fix his addon :o
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15:16.24SycorianSilverstorm: how would latency affect that?
15:16.30ckknight[ ] Yes [ ] No [√] Maybe
15:16.42AckisWorkck wins tbh
15:17.06SilverstormSycorian: same way it affects Quartz, etc.
15:17.16Silverstormat least, that's my suspicion
15:17.27pastamancerFisker-: ya, srsly
15:17.56Silverstormbut I don't really know.  I'd have to get it semi-working to know for sure
15:19.56CIA-4003ackis * r71469 10AckisRecipeList/ (Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua RecipeDB/ARL-Enchant.lua):
15:19.56CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
15:19.56CIA-40- Conversion of some enchanting patterns to new method
15:19.56CIA-40- All dry-coded
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15:21.16CIA-4003philosound * r71470 10Numen/ (Numen.lua NumenButtons.lua NumenData.lua):
15:21.16CIA-40Numen:
15:21.16CIA-40- going further down the 2.4 road, replacing the spellDurations table by GetTotemInfo and affinityDurations[affinity]
15:21.16CIA-40- tested for some days, hopefully no bugs are introduced
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15:26.08CIA-4003toadkiller * r71471 10AutoBar/AutoBarCategory.lua:
15:26.08CIA-40AutoBar :
15:26.08CIA-40-- spellSummonFelsteed = GetSpellInfo(5784)
15:26.52kadrahilvithos: did i mention i got shoulders of the hidden predator and wraps of precise flight :P
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15:29.39kadrahilwhat minimap addon do people use nowadays? i tend to still use SMM
15:29.49SunTsukadrahil: I use chinchilla
15:29.59Polarinakadrahil: I use FrameXML.
15:30.03chiper_oh sweet, Scare Beast is now an instant cast
15:30.08chiper_I might actually use it now
15:30.12kadrahilchiper_: since when?
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15:30.26chiper_since the 2.4.2 PTR went live
15:30.29kadrahilooh
15:30.38kadrahilthat'll make fighting druids more fun
15:30.40Sycorianthat's going to be a cheapshot for feral's pvp :3
15:30.55chiper_scare beast works on druids?  oooooo
15:31.09Polarinachiper_: In Bear and Cat form.
15:31.15chiper_giggles in anticipation
15:31.47Polarinachiper_: Great fun going into battlegrounds. The Druids get like "WTF?" all the time. :)
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15:33.00kadrahili did it in the netherwing mines
15:33.07kadrahili was attacked by a hunter/warrior/druid
15:33.09AmadeoI'm leveling up a Hunter, I can't wait :P
15:33.12AmadeoI hate me some Druids!
15:33.24kadrahilfeigned death out of the hunter's pet, scatter shotted the warrior and started to run when the druid bear charged me
15:33.38kadrahili scared him away too and dropped another trap for the warrior and made it halfway up the ramp before they finally killed me
15:34.20kadrahilaaanyway
15:34.37mikmagreat little story
15:34.42kadrahil:/
15:34.54Chomperspvp, serious business
15:34.59Chompersplease, tell me more.
15:35.16kadrahiloh, they got me
15:35.26kadrahiland that was it
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15:52.15CIA-4003toadkiller * r71472 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
15:52.15CIA-40LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
15:52.15CIA-40- Pure Energy 31451
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15:59.45CIA-4003rabbit * r71473 10SpyGnome/SpyGnome.lua: SpyGnome: Fix nil error.
15:59.53CIA-4003funkydude * r71474 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: add to blacklist, another change at com matching >.>
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16:01.03SinaloitAckisWork: AckisRecipeList-0.84\RecipeDB\ARL-LeatherWork.lua:199: '=' expected near 'ARL'
16:01.15AckisWorkThanks
16:01.21MOPPEDIs there any drum-synv mods
16:01.35Evandiannthis may sound like a stupid question but, does gathermate communicate with gatherer to send & receive the info on where mineral deposits or herbs are or is it possible to do that?
16:01.35MOPPEDsync
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16:02.37nevcairielEvandiann: it doesnt do that, no, and i dont think its that trivial to do because both mods use very different storage designs
16:03.30Evandiannok, the reason i asked is because most of my guild uses gatherer and i am trying to switch all the addons i have to ace addons
16:04.03Evandiannand i recently switched from gatherer to gathermate
16:04.39AckisWorkSinaloit: I have it fixed, I added an extra s somehow... I can't commit because the version I'm working on is really broken right now lol
16:04.50AckisWorkit'll be another 10 mins or so
16:06.27ckknightEvandiann: can I ask why you want to switch to just ace addons?
16:06.40ckknightjw
16:06.54MOPPEDis there a mod GUI - tutorial? ;s
16:07.03nevcairielI can understand switching from Gatherer to GatherMate though :D
16:07.07Evandiannthey r constantly updated and it makes it easier for me to keep my 250+ addons updated
16:07.29AckisWorkWAU... the best and worst thing that could happen
16:07.33Evandiannand there are a lot of good addons from wowace
16:07.42AckisWorkthere are a lot of shit ones too
16:07.55Evandianntrue
16:08.05Matrix110|50% is crap:P
16:08.05AckisWorkARL is an example
16:08.06Matrix110|or more
16:08.42Evandiannackis, i noticed something wrong with the JC section in ARL
16:08.52AckisWorkwhat?
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16:09.53Evandiann4 designs from the summoned bosses in BEM r stated in there as learnable at 295 when they should be 325
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16:10.31AckisWorkaight I'll check and get it updated in next commit
16:10.47Fisker-slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout
16:10.52Fisker-i slapped you
16:11.00nevcairielso you did
16:11.15nevcairieli dont read backlogs in this spammy channel
16:11.31Fisker-not much backlog to read
16:11.40Fisker-given it was less than a minute ago i slapped you
16:12.06ZhinjioXinhuan: you'll be pleased to know that I've ripped out that ParseItem function you didn't like.
16:12.08nevcairiellies
16:12.09Vulcanusmore like 5 seconds :p
16:12.18Xinhuanlol ;p
16:12.56ZhinjioI was using it in 3 places. I just replaced the calls with the correct string.match and GetItemInfo calls
16:14.18Xinhuanneato
16:14.31Xinhuanmuch of complicated code can usually be reduced into 2-liners
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16:17.49CIA-4003toadkiller * r71475 10AutoBar/AutoBarCategory.lua:
16:17.49CIA-40AutoBar :
16:17.49CIA-40-- spellRitualOfSouls, _, spellRitualOfSoulsIcon = GetSpellInfo(29893) fixed
16:19.25pastamancerack, I just read through GridStatusRaidDebuff
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16:19.46Sinaloit~seen Funkeh`
16:19.47purlfunkeh` is currently on #wowhead (1d 23h 58m 10s) #wowuidev (1d 23h 58m 10s) #wowace (1d 23h 58m 10s) #curseforge (1d 23h 58m 10s). Has said a total of 83 messages. Is idling for 7h 14m 42s, last said: 'think ill make a libars pvp addon'.
16:19.54CIA-4003ackis * r71476 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
16:19.54CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
16:19.54CIA-40- All enchanting converted to new method
16:19.54CIA-40- All cooking converted to new method
16:19.54CIA-40- JC Update for Blade's Edge Bosses
16:19.54CIA-40- Fixed a typo
16:19.56CIA-40- All dry-coded
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16:21.02SinaloitFunkeh`: Just got this in trade: Hi,everyone!In order to thanks for your support as  far,SusanExpress would provide the lowest price  (950g=29.88USD) for all the realms of US WOW.The  delivery time is 30mins to few hours.Welcome to   (www.SusanExpress.?om)
16:21.10PolarinaSinaloit: Thanks.
16:21.18stew_a~seen paene
16:21.19purlpaene is currently on #wowace (1h 33m 39s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 32m 58s, last said: 'Anyone here familiar or decent with scheme?'.
16:21.26SinaloitFunkeh`: It looked like .Com in chat though
16:21.42AckisWorkSinaloit: It's fixed in that commit
16:21.55AckisWorkEvandiann: Those patterns are updated thanks
16:21.56Paenehi
16:21.56Sinaloitso they might be using some extended character capital C or something wierd
16:22.09Evandiannok, np
16:22.36pastamancerƈ perhaps?
16:22.57SinaloitIs there anyway for me to tell what the ? in "www.SusanExpress.?om" is? it looks like www.SusanExpress.Com ingame
16:22.57pastamancerhmm, I can't actually see if that showed up right... should be a c with a wierd accent
16:23.07Sinaloitno looks just like a regular captial C
16:23.22Funkeh`Sinaloit, can you pm me these things
16:23.26Funkeh`stop splashing it in the channel
16:23.29Paenestew_a: did you need something?
16:23.34Sinaloitsure
16:23.49Sinaloitshould I PM Polarina too then? :)
16:23.55CIA-4003polarina * r71477 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc):
16:23.55CIA-40Relegation:
16:23.55CIA-40<PROTECTED>
16:24.01Funkeh`clearly not
16:24.09PolarinaWhy?
16:24.21Funkeh`you just made a commit?
16:24.35Sinaloitbecause funkeh` wants me to pm him instead of putting it in the channel which i'm okay with
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16:25.19PolarinaFunkeh`: Yes.
16:25.34Funkeh`Polarina, well, thats why :)
16:27.18PolarinaSinaloit: I would appreciate if you could PM me with the messages too, but it's up to you.
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16:31.29stew_aPaene: was just going to ask - in crysolysis2, if the timer frame is disabled, when its loaded does it still have mouseenabled on, it seems to stop me from interacting with the worldframe underneath where the timerframe should be, and WMC says the cryo2 timer frame is right underneath it
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16:35.51ckknight~seen cryect
16:35.53purlcryect <i=Cryect@c-71-236-21-104.hsd1.ga.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 16h 26m 11s ago, saying: 'or while loop '.
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16:36.25SinaloitFound the answer to the mystery C
16:36.40sag_ich_nicht~karma sag_ich_nicht
16:36.40purlsag_ich_nicht has karma of 1
16:36.42PolarinaIt's a unicode character?
16:36.44ckknightthe C wasn't a mystery, Sinaloit
16:36.45sag_ich_nichtexcellent
16:36.51sag_ich_nichtwell what was it.
16:36.52sag_ich_nicht( ?
16:36.58Sinaloit\\208\\161
16:37.11sag_ich_nichtmeh
16:37.13Sinaloitwell no-one seemed to answer :P
16:37.46Paenestew_a: You'd have to ask Antiarc, it's an element based on his LibBars library
16:37.50ckknightoh, nvm, wrong topic
16:38.21AckisWorkI wonder if anyone's made a script to convert a mod from Ace2 to Ace3...
16:39.05RaydenUniwhat is the light armory site?
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16:42.00Hjaltephyber: Just came back from sleeping, I'm updating addons now :)
16:42.59Matrix110|anyone knows which mod is fucking with the guild kick/rank/invite window?
16:43.35ckknightfucking with how?
16:43.52Matrix110|normally when you promote somebody in the rank it stays open
16:43.53Funkeh`ckknight, can think of a few ways
16:43.54Matrix110|now it closes
16:43.58Funkeh`need help?
16:44.24Matrix110|and deselecting/selecting a person again to promote him 5 ranks is pretty annoying
16:44.55StanzillaMatrix110|: that sounds like a special case for Xinhuan
16:45.11Matrix110|its like that for about 2 weeks now
16:45.16Matrix110|didnt install anything new
16:45.28Xinhuando you use cartographer_guildpositions?
16:45.31Matrix110|no
16:45.33CIA-4003kagaro * r71478 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: changed anchor check sequence
16:45.34Matrix110|iam Using mapster
16:45.44Xinhuanany other guild-related addon?
16:45.48Odlawsounds like a case for grep imo.
16:46.04ragekageactually, it's a blizzard thing
16:46.19Xinhuani haven't quite experienced anything like what Matrix110| described
16:46.24ragekagei've had it happen to me too, where it just does weird stuff like assume the tittle of the previous guidl rank you were working with
16:46.26Xinhuanand i mass promoted about 20 ppl just 2 days ago
16:46.37Xinhuannah ragekage, that is a different bug
16:46.40Xinhuanand its not a blizzard fault
16:46.48ckknightMatrix110|: try with Mapster disabled
16:46.52ragekageah too bad
16:46.54Xinhuanits actually a library fault in LibRollCall
16:46.55Matrix110|will try
16:47.18ckknightXinhuan: hrm?
16:47.21ckknightXinhuan: any way to fix?
16:47.22nevcairieldont blame my Mapster, its nice to you! :(
16:47.41Xinhuanthere are some addons that perform GetRoster() every 15 seconds, and since the guild list gets refreshed every 15 seconds, a GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE event fires every 15 seconds
16:47.52Xinhuanthis by default, forces the guild control panel to reset to "GuildMaster" rank
16:48.07Xinhuanso my hack was to unregister the event from the guild control frame
16:48.10ckknightyou put the hackish fix into LGP-1.0, right?
16:48.16ckknightcan it not be put into LibRollCall as well?
16:48.23ragekagewow
16:48.25Xinhuanyep, i also inserted it into rollcall long ago
16:48.29ckknighthrm
16:48.34ckknightfigured you would
16:48.36ckknightragekage: wow?
16:48.37Xinhuanthe only problem with rollcall's implementation is that its a securehook
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16:48.49Xinhuanso if 3 copies of rollcall loaded, it hooks 3 times
16:48.55Xinhuansince i didn't check if its already hooked
16:49.14ragekageckknight: wow to the GetRoster() 15 seconds thing
16:49.15Xinhuanbut that isn't really of any consequence
16:49.25ckknightragekage: it's the only way to update the info
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16:49.37ckknightthat I know of
16:49.47Matrix110|Xinhuan that isnt even the bug I got, its directly on the button hit, and with Mapster disabled its still there
16:49.48ragekageok? not saying it's a problem, just wow didn't realize it
16:49.50Xinhuanbasically, Cartographer_GuildPositions uses this mechanism to get an updated guild list regularly
16:50.05Xinhuanand since lots of ppl use cart, it sounded like a "blizzard bug"
16:50.30Xinhuani know Matrix110|, its a different bug, i haven't encountered what you described
16:50.40Xinhuanyou'll probably have to disable addons until you find the culprit
16:50.46Xinhuanthen we can maybe look at the code to see why
16:50.49Matrix110|figured that out:-(
16:50.52Matrix110|ill do that later
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16:51.17Xinhuanfeel free to fix that hook checking ck ;p
16:51.50CIA-4003ckknight * r71479 10LibRollCall-2.0/LibRollCall-2.0.lua: LibRollCall-2.0 - add a flag to whether GuildControlPopupFrame_OnShow has been hooked or not
16:51.52ennuilgHello all. Been a while... :-)
16:52.06Xinhuanat the time of commit, i wasn't into looking at all the oldlib[] newlib[] stuff to add a flag
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16:52.37Xinhuanthe same thing in RollCall-1.0 too, if people still use that
16:52.38DARKGuyWho's in charge for the svn accounts? o,o
16:53.05ZhinjioDARKGuy: Kaelten
16:53.19ZhinjioHe's a busy guy. be patient.
16:53.36Odlawneed a more automated system :)
16:53.42DARKGuyZhinjio: yeah I imagined, just wanted to know who was it but I guess I'll keep waiting x)
16:54.01ennuilgXinhuan: Do you have any thoughts on that Icon Persistence issue I've been having? Don't know if you got a chance to test it for yourself...
16:54.16CIA-4003profalbert * r71480 10Sphere/Buttons/Buttons.lua:
16:54.16CIA-40Sphere:
16:54.16CIA-40- removed the GetActionFromMacroText()-calls since this function doesn't exist anymore in the wow-api.
16:54.26Xinhuannope, i've been spending my last 10 frantic days trying to finish my Final Year Project (uni)
16:54.45ennuilglol - priorities are a good thing... Need to find mine sometimes!
16:55.27Xinhuanmy opinion is that
16:55.37Xinhuanembedded fontstrings are a little bugged atm
16:55.43Xinhuanand also causes some word wrapping issues
16:55.57Xinhuanwhen sometimes wow things the string is longer than it really is
16:56.33ennuilgYeah - having gone through my code really closely, I still hate to say "It's not my fault", but in this case, I think it probably isn't, and Blizz haven't got their code quite right yet.
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16:58.14Gnarfozsheesh, how long does the packaging process take these days? oO
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16:58.35Zynderpsoh lord
16:58.36CIA-4003rabbit * r71481 10oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: Optional/Resurrection: Color the player names.
17:00.02vhaarrAnyone know whether :SetVertexColor or :SetTextColor is preferred on a FontString?
17:00.07vhaarrI can't see any difference.
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17:00.31ZynderpsFunkeh` , goldspammers are getting creative and going around BadBoy
17:00.44Funkeh`I'm aware :)
17:01.00Zynderpsjust saw "Please visite [www.fastgg.conn(conn=com)]"
17:01.02PolarinaHow do they do that?
17:01.03Zynderpsrages
17:01.12Funkeh`Zynderps, update should fix that
17:01.15PolarinaAh...
17:02.00Zynderpsand my ghost is still here even though almost an hour has passed >_>
17:02.10vhaarrFunkeh`: why don't you do what I do in simplechatmods' antispam.lua?
17:02.36Gnarfozsince blizzard ramped up the gold income with the new daily quests, I guess gold sellers are getting desperate... they're spamming trade channel and whispers again oO
17:03.33Funkeh`vhaarr, I used to do it like that but since I gsub spaces it risked more flase positive
17:03.47*** join/#wowace Zyndrome (n=faggotry@217-209-42-83-no89.tbcn.telia.com)
17:03.49PolarinaBlizzard should nerf gold income from all quest and mob drops by half.
17:04.30Gnarfozso the gold spammers don't have to spam as much anymore? ;P
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17:04.50vhaarrFunkeh`: and why do you use captures in the triggers?
17:04.56ennuilgCan I override a function in a library and get the library to run it? In short, CandyBars-2.0 has a local sort function and I want to change how it behaves (hardcoded to bar running order, I want creation order) without providing a forked library...
17:04.58PolarinaNo, so they'll give up farming gold.
17:05.09ZyndromeBlizzard should disallow any forms of transferring gold between characters!
17:05.10sacarascso people who have already amassed a fortune can get things stupidly cheap!
17:05.15Zyndromeoh god Nobel-prize here I come
17:05.20vhaarrFunkeh`: also you seem to have given credit to the world and his mother, but not me
17:05.20Funkeh`vhaarr, for the 5 billion new variants of com
17:05.23GnarfozPolarina: haha, right. they've got near unlimited manpower. it wouldn't matter to them.
17:05.37vhaarrFunkeh`: yes but you can just do %S+, no need for ()
17:06.04Funkeh`I didn't use simplechatmods for code
17:06.12Funkeh`gah I need to rethink this com thing
17:06.30vhaarrFunkeh`: the code sure looks like a total rip of my code
17:06.32CIA-4003ackis * r71482 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc embeds.xml):
17:06.32CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
17:06.32CIA-40- Added some commented out stuff for Ace3 conversion project
17:06.32CIA-40- Removed ARLOPtions from ToC
17:06.32CIA-40- Added ARLText to ToC
17:06.33CIA-40- Fixed a typo
17:06.35CIA-40- All dry-coded
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17:07.34Funkeh`vhaarr, because there's 5 million different ways of doing it?
17:07.48Gnarfozthat's the trouble with letters, there's only so many ways you can arrange them... things will look the same some times ;D
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17:08.11vhaarrFunkeh`: nevermind, it just popped into my head when reading your TOC and the code
17:08.15vhaarrlooks like my code, I have no credit
17:08.19vhaarryou say it isn't, so forget it
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17:09.34CIA-4003paene * r71483 10Cryolysis2/ (. embeds.xml):
17:09.34CIA-40Cryolysis2:
17:09.34CIA-40- Fixed embeds
17:09.51Sinaloit@vhaarr: how do you go from vhaarr to rabbit? :)
17:10.17dylanmThat has always been confusing for me.
17:10.28vhaarrone of them is my actual name, the other isn't
17:10.38CIA-4003ammo * r71484 10oUF_CombatFeedback/oUF_CombatFeedback.lua: oUF_CombatFeedback: make arg a local, whoops. Thanks p3lim.
17:11.31CIA-4003ackis * r71485 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
17:11.31CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
17:11.31CIA-40- Fixed couple of localization issues
17:11.31CIA-40- All dry-coded
17:11.40Gnarfoz/whois 'n stuff, works wonders ;)
17:12.56hydrogenhmm
17:12.58hydrogenis itg just me
17:13.01hydrogenor does wet coding sound dirty
17:13.02hydrogen:-)
17:13.13AckisWorki wet coded your mom!
17:13.14AckisWorkahahaha
17:13.21durcyni don't know, but seeing that on every commit makes me want to stab him in the face
17:13.23hydrogeni knew it!
17:13.24durcynoh, hi ackis
17:13.27AckisWork:(
17:13.34AckisWorkYou don't see them on EVERY commit
17:14.19AckisWorkfor example r71363 didn't have it
17:14.20CIA-4003next96 * r71486 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/embeds.xml:
17:14.20CIA-40FuBar_TopScoreFu :
17:14.20CIA-40- Update embeds.xml
17:14.43hydrogen~svn 71363
17:14.55hydrogencmon purl, be a good rbot and have the svn plugin!
17:15.26hydrogenor maybe your not an rbot
17:15.31hydrogeneven though you behave like one
17:15.53Gnarfoz~purl
17:15.53purlACTION purrs.
17:16.00Gnarfozright, that never helped before
17:16.16profalbertpurl, have a cookie
17:16.17purlTa.  *Munch*
17:17.00AckisWorkDurcyn: This is what happened last time I got punched in the face: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/Ackis/Cut%20Up%20Face%202006/facecutup20063.jpg :P
17:17.16CIA-4003next96 07ag_Options * r71487 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_Options-koKR.lua:
17:17.16CIA-40ag_UnitFrames :
17:17.16CIA-40- ag_Options
17:17.16CIA-40- Update locale koKR
17:18.27ckknightAckisWork: that you or the other guy?
17:18.51AckisWorkthat is me... during said sucker punch, he had a glass in his hand
17:18.56CIA-4003next96 07Ace3 * r71488 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua:
17:18.56CIA-40ag_UnitFrames:
17:18.56CIA-40- Update locale koKR
17:23.28ennuilgIf a library defines a local function, and my addon defines a global function of the same name, which one will the library execute? local over global, or global over local?
17:24.12ckknightlocal
17:24.15CIA-4003next96 * r71489 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
17:24.16CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
17:24.16CIA-40- Update locale koKR
17:24.23ckknightit's always the one in the closest scope
17:24.24ennuilgBother. Any way to ovverride that?
17:27.59ennuilgLooks like I'm going to have to talk to Ammo then... Thanks anyway ckknight.
17:28.19ckknightjust use _G.thing
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17:31.37ennuilgHmmm... Not sure I understand about the G Thang well enough... :-)
17:31.38CIA-4003funkydude * r71490 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: add to blacklist, tweak com (again)
17:32.00Zhinjiohmmm
17:32.18Zhinjioso... here's a problem. I'm sure one of y'all has had to do something about this before.
17:32.37durcynennuilg: the table should be exposed, you can order it yourself and then call UpdateBars
17:32.47AiianeError: attempt to reference "y'all", a nil value.
17:32.47Shirikhttp://www.osnews.com/images/comics/wtfm.jpg
17:32.49ZhinjioI have a localized string: SKGL["SKG_MSG_BIDNOTIFY"] = "SKG : %s at position %d has bid."
17:33.14odtmy wowaceupdater hit 1GB bandwidth, do i win something
17:33.22ZhinjioI want to be able to also listen for that string in incoming whisper stream
17:33.28ennuilgYeah, but Ammo is resorting it every time it updates, which is going to mean lots of arguments!
17:33.47Zhinjiothe localized string may *not* be in that precise format
17:33.52Zhinjioso how do I listen for it?
17:34.02durcynZhinjio: you don't
17:34.07Zhinjiocrap.
17:34.21Zhinjiohmm
17:34.26CIA-4003ackis * r71491 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua ARLText.lua AckisRecipeList.lua):
17:34.26CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
17:34.26CIA-40- Removed the red for things above skill level as it was causing some issues :P
17:34.26CIA-40- Redid button creation/shoing methods
17:34.26CIA-40- All dry-coded
17:34.26durcynsend a non-localized string via SendAddOnMessage or something?
17:34.50ZhinjioI may have to
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17:35.01Zhinjioin a couple of different cases I'm seeing now.
17:35.07durcynyou should anyway, syncing off chat channels is, eeeugh.
17:35.13Zhinjioyeah, you're right.
17:35.15Zhinjiothats lame.
17:35.17Zhinjiohmm
17:35.24Zhinjiook, need to think about that s'more.
17:35.27durcyni mean, they have to run your addon to do anything with the data anyway, yes?
17:35.38CIA-4003ackis * r71492 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua ARLText.lua AckisRecipeList.lua):
17:35.38CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
17:35.38CIA-40- Ver -> Rev dur
17:35.38CIA-40- All dry-coded
17:35.43durcynso display localized, but sync smarter =P
17:40.27stew_aAckis: is libbabbleboss-3.0 in your externals list? beccause WAU didnt download it
17:40.34Industrialhttp://tinyurl.com/5agalz
17:40.51HealthHmm. Is WoW under windows run as 3d3 or ogl?
17:41.19AckisWorkstew_a: negative, it was in a commit message that I'd do it later because I'm not sure how to do it with the svn client here, and the paths are super stupid =/
17:41.40stew_aah, k
17:41.46EvilJohn-Direct3d
17:42.17EvilJohn-you can run an opengl rendering engine by specifying a command line parameter
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17:42.28Gnarfozit's not worth it, tho ;D
17:43.01EvilJohn-it's generally considered inferior, but it seems to work pretty well on the mac and with linux/wine
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17:44.43CIA-4003durcyn * r71493 10AckisRecipeList/:
17:44.43CIA-40AckisRecipeList: add BB to externals
17:44.43CIA-40~lart Ackis
17:44.43purlcalls Ackis on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home
17:44.54durcynyou do it like that, sir
17:44.58Gnarfozergh
17:45.04CIA-4003zhucc * r71494 10EquivalencePoints/locale/zhTW.lua:
17:45.04CIA-40EquivalencePoints:
17:45.04CIA-40- zhTW add
17:45.05Gnarfozanyone familiar with AuldLangSyne?
17:45.23profalbert~asktoask
17:45.23purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
17:45.33CIA-4003ackis * r71495 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua):
17:45.33CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
17:45.33CIA-40- Logic fix
17:45.33CIA-40- ScanButton var is no longer polluting globals
17:45.33CIA-40- All dry-coded
17:45.34Gnarfozthanks >_<
17:45.39GnarfozI'm not around here enough to know that :p
17:45.52GnarfozI have to find out what characters were on the 'sync list' when I just logged in (before it saves out "removed 'unknown' from sync list, continuing")
17:45.52mortquick question, "/script for i=1,40 do local B=UnitDebuff("player",i); if B == "Grace of Air" then DoEmote("cheer", nil) end end" does not work, what am i missing?
17:46.08Gnarfozit's not a debuff?
17:46.11Gnarfozit's a buff
17:47.04mortahh :)
17:47.51GagorianIf you just want to check for the buff there's easier ways
17:48.15GagorianGetPlayerBuffName("Grace of Air")
17:48.19GagorianOr locale inspecific
17:48.27GagorianGetPlayerBuffName(GetSpellInfo(id))
17:48.41Gagorian-i+u
17:49.18luxusfunny so much recoding on aguf but it still looks the same :D
17:49.31Gnarfozthat's good, not bad :D
17:50.19luxuseven the options are the same ;D
17:50.54mortthanks a lot
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17:52.52mortlooks like the script is faster than the totem casting before it :(
17:52.54Gagorianmort: That is rank specific though. For all ranks GetPlayerBuffName((GetSpellInfo(id))
17:53.21Gagorianmort: On what event are you running it?
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17:54.22morti have a simple castsequence macro for goa and windfury and want to trigger a quartz bar after twisting.  i had the hope i could check for the goa buff to do that
17:54.53mort"/castsequence reset=combat/8 Windfury Totem, Grace of Air Totem"
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17:54.55luxusok it is not the same.. i can't change the bars of individual bars :/
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17:55.17mortbut that script triggers if i cast the wf totem, not the goa one
17:56.35CIA-4003broesel01 * r71496 10Quiet_Npc/ (7 files):
17:56.35CIA-40Quiet_Npc
17:56.36CIA-40- Npc's geaddet
17:56.36CIA-40- Nagrand, Dämmerwald und Brachland eingefügt
17:56.36CIA-40- Bugfix Karazhan
17:56.55GagorianNPC GEADDET
17:57.02Gagorian... germans.
17:57.58Megalonit's the multicultural approach!
17:58.08Primerspeaking of German
17:58.17Vangualdenglisch
17:58.17PrimerI have an addon that's mixing English and Spanish
17:58.33Primerwhen I hover over items, it tells me the source of the item
17:58.35Gnarfozthat's not even german, he's just fucking stupid :P
17:58.57Gnarfozit should be NPCs if it were to be correct, but people struggle with grammar :[
17:59.08luxus:D
17:59.33Gnarfozwww.deppenapostroph.de ~_~
17:59.43Vangualhah
18:00.29charon"nicht's" clearly wins
18:00.34luxus:D
18:00.40luxusmany germans here...
18:00.50luxushätte ich nicht gedacht
18:01.25KemayoGnarfoz: If you haven't logged out then the changes to the list won't have been saved to your SVs yet -- you could check there to find out what changed.
18:01.29Gnarfozaustrians, swiss people, germans, yeah -- still, english is the way to go here
18:01.52GnarfozKemayo: yeah I tried that - by hand - but either I'm blind or it's not in there
18:02.13Gnarfozit said "Player not found" when I logged in, so I guess it tried to sync/add a friend that doesn't exist anymore now
18:02.38luxusit is crazy how nice oUF on cpu and memusage is
18:02.42GnarfozI checked my ingame friends list against my SV (which I have backups of, anyway) and I don't see anyone missing
18:03.34GnarfozI could dump the current version! :D
18:04.39Gnarfoz*sigh* it won't let me, it contains spaces. :(
18:05.52Fisker-vhyaaaaarrrrrrrrr
18:06.01CIA-4003ackis * r71497 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
18:06.01CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
18:06.01CIA-40- Code cleanup (change name of vars/frames/and a few functions)
18:06.01CIA-40- All dry-coded
18:06.09Fisker-any chance of a "people suck and don't have ress monitors"-option btw?
18:07.24Gnarfozthere was an ingame table explorer once
18:07.31Gnarfozdamn what was that called
18:07.59Fisker-yourmother
18:08.00Fisker-hoho
18:08.06Fisker-<-very funny
18:08.19PolarinaFisker-: No, it's an insult.
18:09.23vhaarrFisker-: wut?
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18:09.28charonanyone know if defense rating is actually rounded to an integer defense skill number before conversion to -%crit, or if that is just a display thing?
18:09.46vhaarrcharon: I think it's a display thing
18:09.58vhaarryes it is
18:10.05vhaarrI remember reading about it somewhere
18:10.24vhaarrthat you had to make sure your -%crit was high enough and not just the display lying
18:10.28Gnarfozthere is a bit about how you need 1 point more of some rating, because the blizz UI will tell you lies
18:10.29Wobinthelibrarian: ook?
18:10.42thelibrarianook?
18:10.49Wobinook!
18:10.50Gnarfozit's on wowwiki, I think, not sure though
18:10.56thelibrarianis confused
18:11.13Wobinthinks thelibrarian should read more Terry Pratchett
18:11.29thelibrarianoh, that librarian
18:11.37thelibrarianmore UHF
18:11.43thelibrarianeek
18:11.48Wobineek!
18:12.35ApocoFunkeh`: ping?
18:13.14charonvhaarr: hmm :(
18:13.29charonin that case, i may now have a 0.4*10^-5 chance of being crit
18:13.37charoner, 9.4*10^-5
18:13.50Zhinjiothelibrarian: !!
18:14.15Zhinjiothelibrarian: please tell me you're the same person who used to hang on trippy
18:14.22Zhinjiothat would be the weirdest thing evah.
18:14.26thelibrarianno, I don't believe I am
18:14.29thelibrariansorry :(
18:14.34Zhinjiook
18:14.40Fisker-vhaarr liek
18:14.50Zhinjiothat was just a little bit freaky. Thanks for that little trip through my memories tho
18:14.56Fisker-/raid I'm ressing: <this guy>
18:14.56thelibrarianlol
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18:16.39CIA-4003cossy * r71498 10MendWatch/ (. Libs/ MendWatch.lua MendWatch.toc):
18:16.39CIA-40MendWatch:
18:16.39CIA-40- updated for new CombatLogEvent
18:16.39CIA-40- ParserLib removed
18:18.47Funkeh`Apoco, pong
18:19.00ApocoFunkeh`> pm
18:19.36Polarina?
18:19.53Zyndromehmmm better start making a antigoldspam addon for mIRC too
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18:21.31charonvhaarr: oh well, i'll just take the risk now that i've socketed it anyway, and parse some bossfights for crits in the next weeks
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18:31.45[Liquidor]Liquidor is in the building...
18:33.00CIA-4003toadkiller * r71499 10AutoBar/ (9 files):
18:33.00CIA-40AutoBar :
18:33.00CIA-40-- Add FadeOut Time and FadeOut Alpha
18:33.00CIA-40-- Increase fadeOut update frequency
18:34.30CIA-4003neotron * r71500 10MagicMarker/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
18:34.30CIA-40MagicMarker:
18:34.30CIA-40- New marking algorithm.
18:34.30CIA-40- Incompatible network protocol - no longer syncs real time (marking/unmarking) with old MagicMarker versions.
18:35.58CIA-4003funkydude * r71501 10BigWigs_EredarThreat/BigWigs_EredarThreat.lua: BigWigs_EredarThreat: swap threat positions, was the wrong way around
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18:38.10CIA-4003kemayo * r71502 10AuldLangSyne/Sync/Sync.lua: AuldLangSyne (Sync): Callbacks take event name as their first argument, damnit.
18:39.36NeoTron^^^ Hopefully the world of Magic Marker won't assplode
18:39.49LywellynLibRollCall?  What's that?
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18:40.55Dunok here is how conflag works
18:41.11CIA-4003jncl * r71503 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
18:41.11CIA-40Skinner: Skinned Altoholic & BaudBag
18:41.11CIA-40- Updated Bagnon skin
18:41.11CIA-40- Bugfix for CombatLogChatFrame
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18:41.20Dunit alternates targetting melee and ranged, top threat
18:41.27Dunfor sacrolash
18:41.43Dunit wont target her current aggro
18:42.04Dunthe problem with getting 100% prediction from a mod is i dont think you can determine who is in melee range
18:42.10Apocowe can.
18:42.20LywellynAckisWork: Ping. :D
18:42.25ApocoDoes it take #2 if #3 is out of melee range dun?
18:42.33AckisWorkhides
18:42.43Dunit doesnt alternate 2 and 3
18:42.43LywellynYou know what I want. ;)
18:42.49Dunit altnerates #1 melee and #1 ranged
18:42.50AckisWorkLube?
18:43.00LywellynDepends.  Do bugs do that sort of thing?
18:43.04Dunso like
18:43.08AckisWorkdepends on the bugs :P
18:43.09Apocoright, but when a ranged gets conflaged, the next conflag goes to #2 Melee if #3 threat is ranged?
18:43.21LywellynHow about "can't find library instance" bugs? :D
18:43.30Dunif a ranged gets conflag, the next one will be on the off tank
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18:43.36Apocoso #2 threat.
18:43.51Dunyea, i mean #1 other than her current aggro
18:43.56Apocokk
18:44.05Dungenerally this will alternate between #2 and 3 on her threat table
18:44.09Apocoyeah
18:44.19Dunbut if the off tank runs out to get a blaze
18:44.24Apocowhat does it start at ranged or melee or is it random?
18:44.27Dunthen he will be ranged and he could be targetted out of turn
18:44.46Duni think its random
18:45.09Apocokk
18:45.14Dunalso it throws it off if like
18:45.17Dunits melee turn
18:45.21Dunand the off tank isnt in melee range
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18:45.48CIA-4003ulic * r71504 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (5 files):
18:45.48CIA-40LittleWigs: Tempest Keep
18:45.48CIA-40- Ironhand: Confirmed spellIds and modified functionality
18:45.48CIA-40- Gyrokill: Added this miniboss
18:45.48CIA-40- Capacitus: Confirmed spellIds in Heroic
18:45.49CIA-40- Pathaleon: Confirmed spellIds in Heroic
18:45.51CIA-40- Thanks to Yoshimo for the logs
18:45.55NeoTrontwins sounds complex
18:46.06Dunthere is no valid target for that cycle so it seems to just go to the next threat
18:46.18AckisWorktwins is annoying
18:46.24Dunwell the thing is, you dont need an accurate predictor for conflag if your raid isnt retarded
18:46.27AckisWorkwe got the MH mace that looks like a spatual tho
18:46.27GagorianPredicting conflag isn't that important
18:46.34Dunright
18:46.35NeoTronI wish my guild wouldn't spend tons of time trying to re-kill kalecgos for a 3rd or 4th or whatever it is
18:47.05Dunwhy not?
18:47.06M1s3ryI wish my guild would :p
18:47.13Dunif you cant kill kalec you suck too bad to do brut
18:47.22NeoTronDun: we've killed both
18:47.26hypetechdon't you have to do kalec to get to brut?
18:47.32AckisWorkwe still have trouble on felmyst for some reason lol
18:47.37Dunyou can skip him by wiping and recovering on the other side
18:47.37Gagorianhypetech: Indeed
18:47.45hypetechso what would you rather be killing? lol
18:47.47NeoTronpoint being we did fine the past two weeks but this week we just seemed to have entered stupidville
18:47.54Dunoh
18:48.00Duni thought you were advocating skipping him
18:48.00hypetechoh you just want them to not suck, got it
18:48.04hypetechsame
18:48.05NeoTronofc not
18:48.08NeoTronwe've killed him at least 3 times
18:48.13NeoTronkilled brut once
18:48.16M1s3rySo, what would be a few good addons for a sword combat rogue that you guys use?
18:48.20ApocoDun: if its melee's turn to get conflaged, #2 threat is out of range (getting fire dmg), it goes to #1 threat or #3?
18:48.30Dun#3
18:48.33Apocok
18:48.34Duni THINK
18:48.38Dunthe thing is
18:48.44Dunsometimes the warlock tank gets conflag
18:48.47Dunand i have no idea why
18:49.16Apococould it be because the ot is getting fire dmg?
18:49.24Apocoso it requires a melee range target ie: tank
18:49.34Dunmaybe
18:49.41Apocokk
18:49.59Dunif the warlock gets close enough to sacrolash, it might think he is melee
18:50.22kadrahilsupremus has a freaking huge hitbox
18:50.28Duni think its the wrong way to go about it, trying to predict it though
18:50.36Dunthe conflag target could change at the last second
18:50.40kadrahili'm like at max range shooting arrows at him right
18:50.42genetik-kadrahil: i get such a kick out of tanking him now.. from like 30 yards away
18:50.46kadrahilgenetik-: lol
18:50.55kadrahilhe starts to chase after someone
18:50.59kadrahiland all of a sudden i get in a melee swing
18:51.02kadrahili'm like, what
18:51.07NeoTronlook forward to that
18:51.10NeoTronI'm always the lock tank
18:51.14NeoTronand I like it
18:51.20NeoTroneven if it means I have to get resist gear
18:51.30Dunno point wearing resist gear
18:51.36Apocofor the tank atleast
18:51.38Dunif anything you would wear shadow resist
18:51.40mitchnullTipTac or TinyTip? opinions?
18:51.42NeoTronDun: not talking twins specifically, just talking in general
18:51.46Apocohehe
18:51.50Dunright
18:51.53Dunbut what else is there?
18:51.55NeoTronfire for leotheras and early kael'thas, shadow for illidan
18:51.56Dunillidan and twins
18:52.08Dunyou still run t5?
18:52.12NeoTronno
18:52.14NeoTronbut I did
18:52.24NeoTronand I've been the tank since leotheras and onwards
18:52.36Dunwe had a hunter tank the firebitch on kaal cuz he could fd gear swap after she died
18:52.42Dunbut that was back when kael was lolhard
18:52.47NeoTronthus I have a full FR set, full SR set and since I was one of the tanks on pre-change solarian, full AR too
18:53.07Dunwhy would a warlock do that
18:53.16NeoTronbecause I had most of the gear already
18:53.19DunAR i mean
18:53.21KemayoGnarfoz: The "not found" stuff from ALS's syncing was a bug.  Should be fixed now.
18:53.24Duni guess
18:53.28NeoTronand I was demo spec
18:53.29Dunyou dont have defensive stance
18:53.33NeoTronso I got 70 free AR
18:53.39NeoTronno butI have a demon that takes 20% of the dmg
18:53.45NeoTronand gets heals when I get heals
18:53.46Dunit still has to be healed
18:53.51NeoTronnot back then
18:53.54NeoTronwell
18:53.57NeoTronafter the first kill
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18:54.11NeoTronbut it's not that hard to heal the pet with pom/hots
18:54.37Dunfight was dumb back then anyway
18:54.46Dun2 people's jobs were to be afk
18:54.48Dunwell designed
18:54.49NeoTronin either case we waited for the patch to come out that changed the encounter killed vashj and had to move on with a days notice
18:55.05NeoTronbecause the patch was delayed
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18:55.10NeoTronand yeah it was a retarded mechanic
18:55.36Dunconflag is basically the same thing as the current mechanic for solarian
18:55.45Dunexcept you have to be way faster on the reaction
18:55.55CIA-4003oridan * r71505 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc):
18:55.55CIA-40SpellReminder:
18:55.55CIA-40- Improved Totem support: No more temperamental totem bars. Now uses GetTotemInfo.
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19:01.08spelling2what do you call when a group of people of city has one favorite race over another?
19:01.40Dunniggers
19:01.49CIA-4003oridan * r71506 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.toc:
19:01.49CIA-40SpellReminder:
19:01.49CIA-40- correct SinkLib x-embeds entry. whoops.
19:01.53AckisWorkpeople that annoy you?
19:02.10Dunn_gg_rs
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19:03.21CIA-4003funkydude * r71507 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add to blacklist
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19:04.08Arcaia2i just corned the runecloth market on my serve
19:04.09Arcaia2r
19:04.10CIA-4003belazor * r71508 10Cryolysis2/Cryolysis2.xml:
19:04.10CIA-40Cryolysis2:
19:04.10CIA-40- Bye, old timer frame, stop blocking parts of our screens.
19:04.10Arcaia2win
19:04.20Arcaia2960 Runecloth ;D
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19:05.00kadrahilcartographer\libs\libRollCall-2.0\LibRollCall-2.0.lua:58: attempt to index local 'oldLib' (a nil value)
19:05.40luxusdoes anyone use ventrilo on a mac here?
19:05.44kadrahili do
19:05.54kadrahilsup?
19:05.55luxusdoes phantoms work for you?
19:06.00kadrahiluh, hm
19:06.33kadrahilwhat exactly do you mean?
19:06.34luxusconnect to a server and right click on a channel  - misc. - add/rem phantom
19:06.37kadrahiloh
19:06.51kadrahilworked for me
19:06.55luxushttp://www.ventriloservers.biz/demos/phantoms.html
19:07.03Lywellyngotta make sure the channel itself allows phantoms, too.
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19:07.49luxusit don't work for me...
19:08.06luxusit is something with the ventrilo2.ini but i can't get it working
19:08.31CIA-4003elsia * r71509 10Recount/GUI_Realtime.lua:
19:08.31CIA-40Recount:
19:08.31CIA-40- Commit possible fix for realtime UpdateTitle bug that I cannot reproduce.
19:08.52blayLibRollCall-2.0-71479 (LibRollCall-2.0):58: attempt to index local 'oldLib' (a nil value)
19:08.56blay:(
19:09.04kadrahili got that too
19:09.23blayand LibRock-1.0-3317 (LibRock-1.0):2715: Library "LibRollCall-2.0" not finalized before ADDON_LOADED.
19:09.25blay?
19:09.49kadrahili believe i got that one too
19:10.04kadrahilthat was before i installed librollcall as a separate addon
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19:10.38harldephinin a macro, is there a difference between using an empty condition and just adding the same spell at the end?
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19:12.42balstorso is it a good sign or bad sign that your addon never gets mentioned on the forums?
19:13.06dylanmWhat's your addon
19:13.06AckisWorkboth
19:13.52CIA-4003rabbit * r71510 10oUF_Rabbit/layout.lua:
19:13.52CIA-40oUF_Rabbit:
19:13.52CIA-40<PROTECTED>
19:13.53CIA-40<PROTECTED>
19:13.53CIA-40<PROTECTED>
19:13.56CIA-40<PROTECTED>
19:14.24luxusuh
19:14.26Apocois there a way to determine if another player in your raid is in melee range of a mob or not
19:14.35ApocoCheckInteractDistance only works for player.
19:14.42luxusrabbit = vhaarr right?
19:14.46vhaarryes
19:14.49loriel_Apoco: Ask him
19:14.58luxusvhaarr: any ss for the raidframes?
19:15.07vhaarrApoco: except for what loriel_ said, there's no way :P
19:15.08luxusi do i have to install it *smile*
19:15.19vhaarrluxus: I wish, hopefully I can get some for you in 4 hours or so
19:15.39Apocowhat did loriel_ say? >_>
19:15.41vhaarror, I can in 4 hours
19:15.48vhaarrif you can wait!
19:16.06vhaarrluxus: Listen, I know you really want a screenshot, but please just HOLD ON!
19:16.12luxus:D
19:16.23vhaarrthat said
19:16.30vhaarrI'd really love a AV screenshot myself, so I can see how it looks :P
19:16.31luxuswhy i already know that...
19:16.34vhaarrif anyone cares to try
19:16.45luxusi make one
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19:16.57luxusonly for you :D
19:17.03vhaarryay
19:17.24vhaarrhopefully I didn't commit any serious bugs then
19:17.49luxusif you do.. i will eat your babies :/
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19:18.59vhaarrah
19:18.59NeoTrontries to think of a good way to handle cases where you want Magic Marker to change mob marks in combat.
19:19.00vhaarrluxus: wait
19:19.16NeoTronlike in hyjal - might mark aboms and necros but mark aboms first
19:19.28CIA-4003rabbit * r71511 10oUF_Rabbit/media/armory-vertical.tga: oUF_Rabbit: Forgot the new texture.
19:19.30NeoTronsince you run out of marks you want to make them be used on necros despite being in combat
19:19.32vhaarrluxus: you have to restart wow with that update to get the new texture
19:19.34luxusha
19:20.53luxushmpf
19:21.11vhaarrbug? ><
19:21.22CIA-4003oridan * r71512 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
19:21.22CIA-40SpellReminder:
19:21.22CIA-40- move chat command registration to init, so people can re-enable if they disable.
19:21.26luxusyeah zipfiles are not yet updated :D
19:21.37Gnarfoz<Kemayo> Gnarfoz: The "not found" stuff from ALS's syncing was a bug.  Should be fixed now. <-- thanks for looking into it, but I logged on on one of my alts first, today. after logging on to my main, I got the real system message "Player removed from friend list because the character no longer exists.", so it was probably not that
19:21.38vhaarrhehe, use the svn, luke!
19:21.51luxusi like my WUU
19:22.00luxusi will load it from fish
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19:22.20vhaarrluxus: there is no SVN stuff in it, you can download the files from http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/oUF_Rabbit
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19:22.30vhaarri.e. no $Id$ etc
19:23.23balstordylanm ld50_abar
19:23.35dylanmOh is that the super swing timer thing?
19:23.40CIA-4003elsia * r71513 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua:
19:23.40CIA-40Recount:
19:23.40CIA-40- If total damage display is active, report will also report the total line.
19:23.58balstoryhea , wouldn't really say super though just very dedicated to one job
19:24.25luxusbalstor: !!!! update to LSM-3.0 asap
19:24.33NeoTronFunkeh`: so I wrote a quick addon that shows timers for people on the inside, and outside with the debuff, on kalecgos
19:24.33luxusthx
19:24.38NeoTron(although using what I know - LibBars-1.0 >:-)
19:24.48balstorluxus LSM ???
19:24.59luxusLibSharedMedia-3.0
19:25.00vhaarrbalstor: please explain the name, just let me catch my breath after the rofl
19:25.15luxusno oldschool 1.0 please
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19:26.27balstorokay my intials are LD, and i discovered in grade schooll that LD50 means "Leathal Dosage to 50% of the population" (used in studies) so I decied to prefix all my addons with that, as a marketing tool
19:26.56dylanmIt's a tad confusing.
19:26.58luxusbtw the LD drives acp crazy
19:27.05balstorluxus lsm 3.0 better not involve great mashing of my teeth :P
19:27.15balstoracp?
19:27.25dylanmIt doesn't unless you uh support it fully :p
19:27.28luxusaddon control panel
19:27.30vhaarrLD50_AttackBar would be a much better name
19:27.44vhaarr"abar" is the silly part :P
19:27.47dylanmLike, the way I understand the callbacks should work.
19:27.49Zhinjiook. time to learn LoD and modules.
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19:27.57balstorI though about that but too many letters to type on the command line
19:28.03dylanmTo account for media that gets loaded after you do your creation.
19:28.04Zhinjiocan someone point me to an addon that does LoD and modules well, please?
19:28.08vhaarrcat got your tab-completion?
19:28.15vhaarrZhinjio: bigwigs
19:28.24Zhinjiohmm. good point.
19:28.35balstorluxus that was on my list to do, sort of forgot about it
19:28.50dylanmIf you're lazy you just change LibStub("LibSharedMedia-2.0") to LibStub("LibSharedMedia-3.0").
19:28.53nevcairielckknight: LibRollCall broke now --> http://ace.pastey.net/86573
19:29.16CIA-4003toadkiller * r71514 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua AutoBarClassBar.lua):
19:29.16CIA-40AutoBar :
19:29.16CIA-40-- Bar.frame:SetClampedToScreen(true). This should prevent Bars from getting scaled or moved offscreen.
19:29.16CIA-40-- Popups now have the same padding as the bar. HitRectInsets adjusted to compensate.
19:29.16CIA-40-- Adjust for padding on bars. Bars with padding will now have buttons centered inside them with padding space around the buttons (Move Bar mode illustrates this).
19:29.34CIA-4003ckknight * r71515 10LibRollCall-2.0/LibRollCall-2.0.lua: LibRollCall-2.0 - don't break if oldLib doesn't exist
19:29.41ckknightnevcairiel: thanks
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19:30.45luxusvhaarr: it is possible to add indicators instead of the complete red frame? :D
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19:31.20vhaarrluxus: for aggro coloring?
19:31.26luxusyeah
19:31.29vhaarrhm
19:31.53luxusbut hey i like it... i already try to mod p3lim
19:32.12luxusi can't code.. i just leech and ninja epic addons :/
19:32.24blay3:29p (CIA-40): ckknight * r71515 LibRollCall-2.0/LibRollCall-2.0.lua: LibRollCall-2.0 - don't break if oldLib doesn't exist how long before I would see that hit WAU?
19:32.28luxusi can't code lua :D
19:32.42ckknightblay: 8 minutes
19:32.48blaytyty sir
19:32.59cncfanaticshello peeps
19:33.22Toadkillerupdate script is every 20 minutes starting on the hour...
19:34.11NeoTronToadkiller: the hard thing is to figure out when the 2nd and 3rd time it runs per hour!
19:34.16NeoTronthat's hard maths!!
19:34.46CIA-4003oridan * r71516 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua:
19:34.46CIA-40SpellReminder:
19:34.46CIA-40- Must Learn: Fix -> Test -> Fix again -> Test -> Test again -> Commit
19:34.49luxushttp://img110.imageshack.us/img110/435/screenshot042508213118aj3.jpg
19:35.03ToadkillerI like to check in right on the nose in multiple parts so its 50 50 for things making it in together
19:35.16NeoTronlooks grid-like
19:35.37kadrahilwhat's the name of that mod that gives bartender eyecandy
19:35.40kadrahil:/
19:35.42CIA-4003Shot * r71517 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua:
19:35.42CIA-40DoIKnowYou:
19:35.42CIA-40- Added version checking.
19:35.57nevcairielkadrahil: BT3 --> cyCircled, BT4 --> ButtonFacade
19:36.00luxusNeoTron: yes ... but the cpu usage is like nothing ;D
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19:36.13NeoTrondoes it show debuffs and such?
19:36.17CIA-4003rabbit * r71518 10oUF_Banzai/oUF_Banzai.lua: oUF_Banzai: Frames can set .ignoreBanzai to opt out of health bar coloring.
19:36.21kadrahilnevcairiel: the current bartender in aceupdater is BT3, i'm assuming?
19:36.30kadrahilok yeah
19:36.33nevcairielyea
19:36.37kadrahilwhere do you get BT4?
19:36.54vhaarrluxus: ah, hm, not sure if I'm pleased with that raid color
19:37.42luxusnevcairiel: did you add the barchange on shift,alt,ctrl to the configpanel of bt4?
19:37.52Toadkillerluxus: Is that Grid or are u playing Bingo instead of raiding?
19:37.59vhaarrluxus: near the top of layout.lua there are two lines:
19:38.00vhaarr--local raidHpColor = { 0.55, 0.7, 0.6 }
19:38.00vhaarrlocal raidHpColor = { 115 / 255, 191 / 255, 96 / 255 }
19:38.09spelling2is it good for your business and financial security if others are jealous of you? would you get into jail or in trouble if people are jealous of you? who people are more jealous of blacks or brown? thank you
19:38.10vhaarrluxus: remove the -- from the first line and add them to the second one instead
19:38.17vhaarrluxus: and give me a new screenshot please :P
19:38.27luxusvhaarr: lol :D
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19:38.44kadrahil........
19:38.58nevcairielluxus: not yet, i am terribly busy with university lately
19:39.19vhaarrspelling2: what?
19:39.24luxus:(
19:39.41luxusToadkiller: it is rabbits oUF_Rabbit
19:39.42Toadkillerspelling2: go back to school and learn some grammar.  Meanwhile keep that non-coding drivel out of here
19:40.04kadrahilslaps spelling2 around a bit with a large trout
19:40.10kadrahilslaps Toadkiller around a bit with a large trout
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19:40.17vhaarrI'm not sure if what he said includes some racial slander or not
19:40.51ToadkillerA large trout?  One sec while I switch to Bear Form...
19:40.53VonhintenHOME`wtf was that shit?
19:41.38WogroiplI have this: http://ace.pastey.net/86578 in my oUF layout, could someone help he make it so enemy players don't get a red healthbar?
19:41.47luxushttp://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3522/screenshot042508214046cu3.jpg
19:42.37luxushm with lower resulution it looks like shit
19:42.42vhaarrye :P
19:42.49luxushttp://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot042508214046uf2.jpg
19:43.44vhaarrI think that looks a bit better but I'll tweak the color a bit more later when I can log on
19:43.45vhaarrand try it
19:43.53luxusi think i prefer 2 lines
19:44.39vhaarrand for you the raid frames should be positioned closer to the top
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19:44.44CIA-4003ackis * r71519 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua:
19:44.44CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
19:44.44CIA-40- Fix for ATSW integration (possibly)
19:44.44CIA-40- All dry-coded
19:44.44vhaarrbut I have a rather thick fubar up there
19:45.15NeoTronare they not movable?
19:45.26vhaarrnot in-game, only through editing the lua
19:45.35vhaarrbut yes, that's movable enough for me
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19:46.48NeoTronwait is this part of the superminimalistic addons I see ppl use?
19:47.13vhaarryeah it's my layout for haste's oUF unit frame framework
19:47.15luxusi think i better should make a option house screenshot for NeoTron
19:47.24kadrahilcyCircled hello kitty skins
19:47.25kadrahilwhat
19:47.26kadrahillol
19:47.37CIA-4003phyber * r71520 10Fizzle/ (11 files in 3 dirs):
19:47.37CIA-40Fizzle:
19:47.37CIA-40- Updated to Ace3.
19:47.43NeoTronvhaarr: ah makes sense. so your addon is just the layout
19:47.45NeoTron?
19:47.53vhaarrNeoTron: yeah
19:48.03NeoTronsmart way of configuring it then
19:48.03dylanmYou need his oUF too to make it work, yes.
19:48.08vhaarrphyber: grrr, will that break ClosetGnome again?
19:48.09luxuslike a css file with some functions
19:48.12kadrahilok question
19:48.19balstorwth:  Error: Your file or directory '.' is probably out-of-date  
19:48.20phybervhaarr: I'm not sure, I'll check!
19:48.22NeoTronmain issue with in-lua config is difficulty of upgrading
19:48.24vhaarrthank you
19:48.24kadrahildo you have to complete teh entire bt quest to get the hand of a'dal title
19:48.36vhaarrkadrahil: no, just the access part
19:48.37kadrahilor just kill kael and vashj
19:48.48vhaarrno
19:48.55vhaarrkill al'ar + rage
19:48.55kadrahilwhich part is the access part?
19:48.57kadrahilahh
19:49.10CIA-4003Balstor * r71521 10LD50_abar/Core.lua:
19:49.10CIA-40LD50_abar:
19:49.10CIA-40- Upgraded to LibSharedMedia-3.0
19:49.10vhaarrkael + vashj is MH access
19:49.12kadrahilbut to kill a'lar don't you have to kill fathom lord first?
19:49.12vhaarr= ring
19:49.16kadrahiloh ok
19:49.16vhaarryes you do
19:49.17OlisonHow could i alter config.wtf settings from ingame again?
19:49.18phybervhaarr: ah, no.  it shouldn't.  I kept all of the same function names and options.
19:49.19kadrahilgotcha
19:49.29kadrahili want to do that eventually but my guild never runs ssc or tk anymore
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19:49.30kadrahillol :(
19:49.36phybervhaarr: main changes were to the Inspect module which broke for some strange reason, but CG doesn't care about that :)
19:49.38AckisWorkWhat's LD50_abar?
19:49.39CIA-4003Balstor * r71522 10LD50_abar/ (Changes.txt LD50_abar.toc embeds.xml research.txt):
19:49.39CIA-40LD50_abar:
19:49.39CIA-40- Upgraded to LibSharedMedia-3.0
19:49.53luxussnice balstor
19:49.57vhaarrphyber: so UpdateItems and HideBorders are still there?
19:50.02phybervhaarr: yup
19:50.05vhaarralrighty
19:50.08phyberjust checked in game too, it's fine.
19:50.10phyber:)
19:50.13balstoryhea but my commit is faling at a higher level so the embeds are broke
19:50.27luxusNeoTron: http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8470/screenshot042508214913rn1.jpg
19:50.56luxuswatch at the cpu from the oUF stuff.. try this at with any other raidframe+unitframe
19:51.25balstorAckisWork - it's a swing timer
19:51.52vhaarrluxus: what's your cooldown display down there?
19:52.00luxusRBM
19:52.04vhaarraha
19:52.36Wogroiplluxus: I still prefer Grid for raidframes as a healer
19:52.54vhaarrWogroipl: I'm not a healer, but I use Grid on my priest, yes.
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19:52.54CIA-4003Balstor * r71523 10LD50_abar/ (. Libs/ locale/):
19:52.54CIA-40LD50_abar:
19:52.54CIA-40- Upgraded to LibSharedMedia-3.0
19:52.55ToadkillerAckisWork: LethalDose50_abar
19:52.57CIA-4003profalbert * r71524 10Parrot/ (Code/TriggerConditions.lua Parrot.toc):
19:52.57CIA-40Parrot:
19:52.57CIA-40- Triggersystem works with CombatEvents again (except incoming spell-casts)
19:52.57CIA-40- bumped toc to 2.4
19:53.00luxusWogroipl: yes for a healer ok.. but for a dd :D
19:53.06NeoTronmemory is low but they do use cpu :P
19:53.32luxusi think you never check the cpu usage of grid :/
19:53.38vhaarrNeoTron: unavoidable, but keep in mind I'm still tweaking the layout looks, then I'll try to fix the performance as much as I can
19:53.42vhaarron my part, the layout
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19:53.56Wogroiplluxus: yeah I noticed that from the lack of healing spells on your bar :P
19:54.27luxusperhaps i use clique? :-P
19:54.43durcynyou click cast sinister strike, eh
19:55.11NeoTronluxus: I am not using grid
19:55.15NeoTronI use x-perl for raid frames atm
19:55.40luxusi like the "resurrected" think on x-perl :D
19:55.45CIA-4003Balstor * r71525 10LD50_ap/Core.lua:
19:55.45CIA-40LD50_ap:
19:55.45CIA-40- I have no idea
19:55.47Elsiaanyone know how to get to the armored man graphics?
19:56.04NeoTronhehe
19:56.14NeoTronso long since I've had a default ui where it was enabled
19:56.25luxusElsia: smooth durability
19:57.12Elsialuxus: I'll check, I want to make a copy of the guy and manipulate the limb parts individually if possible
19:57.50NeoTronanyone know of an addon that shows you addons in a tree structure?
19:57.58luxusthe "new" aguf is much better on cpu usage now... http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4301/screenshot042508215505ea4.jpg
19:58.02NeoTroni.e I would like to see the dependency chains
19:58.09NeoTronso I know what addons depends on what
19:58.17DARKGuyElsia: you're gonna make it dance?
19:58.18NeoTronbetter yet, see how much an addon uses with dependencies..
19:58.23ElsiaDARKGuy: possibly ;)
19:58.39DARKGuyElsia: coolness :D
19:58.56luxusNeoTron: there is none
19:58.59DARKGuypersonally, on topic, I use pitbull for everything :P
19:59.23luxusacp make addon trees.. but more like subaddons
19:59.39luxusbut it display the depencies on tooltip
20:00.12luxusoptionshouse display dep. but only on a row next to the name
20:00.22NeoTronI have ACP, it's not that useful
20:00.25NeoTronno good overview
20:00.29NeoTronoptionhouse is better
20:01.10luxusamp is sexy.. but no submenus... no sets... no dependencies
20:01.11NeoTronjust when you run disembedded there's such a mess of libraries :P
20:01.29luxusyep...
20:01.30NeoTronand I am not always sure what is used, or if it's even used anymore
20:01.34luxus300 folders here :D
20:01.46luxusbut alot of them are disabled
20:01.49CIA-4003fieroivan * r71526 10Cartographer_QuestObjectives/addon.lua:
20:01.49CIA-40Cartographer_QuestObjectives:
20:01.49CIA-40- Fix GetHexColorClass to return hex color string
20:02.00NeoTron355
20:02.05NeoTronand same
20:02.14NeoTronbut I still think I have 250-280 enabled
20:02.14CIA-4003Balstor * r71527 10LD50_ap/ (. Changes.txt Core.lua embeds.xml):
20:02.14CIA-40LD50_ap:
20:02.14CIA-40- Upgraded to LibSharedMedia-3.0
20:02.33luxuswtf
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20:02.43luxus250...
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20:02.48Arrowmasterwho broke LibRollCall-2.0
20:02.53NeoTronluxus: in my raid setuo
20:03.05KemayoThe question is who *didn't* break LibRollCall-2.0?
20:03.05luxusok i try to keep it clean :D
20:03.08NeoTronfor me, it's pretty good  - only like 35 MB startup mem use
20:03.12NeoTronand that IS my cleaned setup :P
20:03.15NeoTronit was a lot worse
20:03.24luxusbother authors who using old libs to switch..
20:03.34NeoTron^^^
20:03.38KemayoArrowmaster: That said, ckknight.  He's the only one who committed to it recently.
20:03.45NeoTronpart of the reason I want a tree structure is to get a clearer view
20:03.47balstorsvn Question : Somehow my Libs directory now has a Libs directory inside of it with all the same librares in it, any l=idea how that happens (svn update bpulls down both to)
20:03.54ckknightArrowmaster: I fixed it
20:04.20luxusNeoTron: i use WUU for my addon updates.. there i can see the deps..
20:05.03CIA-4003kergoth 07Ace3 * r71528 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ (ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua ag_UnitFrames-koKR.lua): ag_UnitFrames: fix the broken locale files.
20:05.07luxusso if i am bored i just click the libs and check which is don't used anymore or just from 1-2 addons
20:05.28luxusthen stress the author and get happy *lol*
20:06.49Pkekyo|"You're going to burn in a special level of hell. A level which is reserved for child molesters and people who talk at the theatre..."
20:07.42NeoTronluxus: last I used WUU it tried to update ace addons from non-ace sources which was annoying'
20:07.53CIA-4003StiviS * r71529 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua: AutoBar : esES updated
20:08.16luxusNeoTron: i just use wowi, acesvn, wowace
20:08.40CIA-4003Balstor * r71530 10LD50_abar/Libs/:
20:08.40CIA-40LD50_abar:
20:08.41CIA-40- removed extra external
20:08.47luxusand i don't know a better program for that tasks
20:09.01luxusi just press 1 button and all get updated...
20:09.13balstorso luxus you tried out my swing time recently /poke /poke
20:09.14luxusi can delete addons in the manager and install it
20:10.57CIA-4003Balstor * r71531 10LD50_abar/locale/:
20:10.57CIA-40LD50_abar:
20:10.57CIA-40- removed extra external
20:10.59LywellynSo....I'm working with Ackis on his addon, but I need my svn account... I signed and emailed...wondered if there's a way to get it maybe...now? :D
20:11.21NeoTronluxus: problem is I had to manually configue addons to get updated from wowace vs wowi
20:11.24NeoTronfor example
20:11.29Matrix110|hmmmm
20:11.40Matrix110|the Guild Menu bug i had vanished btw
20:11.47balstornote: svn update can only be run at the root directory running it on sub folders makes bad things happen...
20:11.50DARKGuyMe too I made a module for chatter and want to upload with (with Antiarc's previous permission of course) and I haven't got my svn account yet :(
20:11.59Matrix110|some addon i updated with WAU 10mins ago caused it
20:12.07DARKGuys/with/it
20:12.12DARKGuyfails.
20:12.25Lywellyncomforts DARKGuy.
20:12.31Matrix110|nvm its there again-.-
20:12.41DARKGuyis comforted, yay =)
20:14.11charonbalstor: not really, it just updates the current folder only so you may end up with different revisions. (which is useful sometimes)
20:15.06balstorwell i went in an tried to  update my Libs directory only and it copied the externals down from LD50_abar to LD50_abar/Libs and then created LD50_abar/Libs/Libs
20:16.20charonsounds like you set the svn:externals on Libs/, with lines saying "Libs/X http://foo/bar/X"?
20:16.31luxusNeoTron: how much non wowace do you have?
20:17.37balstorwell it had those lines but i never set them, i only set up externals on LD50_abar
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20:18.09balstorlines like "Libs/SharedMedia-3.0  http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0/"
20:19.02balstorso svn had to copy them itself and set them, I have no idea why it  did it , I went in and deleted them off of Libs and it's all correct now,
20:21.22charonbalstor: r71523 set externals on all three directories. of course there's a slim chance that there is a bug in SVN, but it seems more likely that you accidentally propset on all three dirs
20:22.35balstorcharon while i understand your point of view as I'm in the software industry, I can assure you I never propset on the dirctories. I could try to recreate but would rather not
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20:23.05ToadkillerTheres a recursive setting, maybe you clicked that...
20:24.19NeoTronluxus: enough
20:24.25Matrix110|Xinhuan/ckkknight?
20:24.29NeoTronso tried WUU again. still don't like it
20:24.30Matrix110|i found out which addon it is!
20:24.31NeoTronat all
20:24.32Matrix110|its Chatter!
20:24.38Matrix110|will report to Antiarc
20:24.45balstorthought of that and nope it's unchecked
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20:25.14balstormehh it's not a big deal, just if you see duplicate dirs, check the externals
20:25.16vhaarrAnyone know if status bar textures have to be 32 pixels high to work with :SetStatusBarTexture?
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20:27.44Nandinivharr: they do not
20:28.09vhaarrah, hm
20:28.14vhaarrseems my TGA is missing an alpha channel
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20:28.23vhaarrwould that make WoW reject it?
20:28.34Nandinino, it would just display as entirely opaque
20:28.44DARKGuy32 is power of two, I don't see why it should reject it
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20:29.05vhaarrNandini: do you know how I can add an alpha channel to it with GIMP?
20:29.05Nandinii think some of the textures in SharedMedia are 16 or 64 pixels high
20:29.45Nandinii don't use GIMP for editing, sorry :(
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20:31.49Matrix110|i seriously should start deleting the 50 addons iam not using but have in my folder :D
20:32.01charonvhaarr: layer -> transparency -> add alpha channel ?
20:32.20vhaarrcharon: thank you
20:33.40Wogroiplcff0090ff is a hex color code right?
20:34.13exor674are WoW color codes ARGB or RGBA?
20:34.15FinalX9 chars? usually 8 for hex codes (pairs of 2)
20:34.23FinalXdunno about wow-specific tho
20:34.51charonWogroipl: the c is not part of the color code but of the |c escape sequence
20:35.20Wogroiplaaaaah right, can you tell I'm not a coder? :P
20:36.06DARKGuywow. All my addons are just Pitbull, EQCompare, Quartz, StatStain, BT3, CyCircled+Vol skin, Skinner, Chatter, Steroids, SimpleMiniMap, KgPanels and CML... the rest are libs :P
20:36.38vhaarrexor674: RGBA
20:36.42vhaarrerr
20:36.47vhaarrARGB
20:36.58vhaarrif you're talking about chat colors
20:37.41kadrahilrofl @ athene's videos
20:37.43durcynDARKGuy: you're using EQCompare.  
20:37.46kadrahilthis crap is funny
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20:37.53DARKGuydurcyn: yes
20:38.02Hjalteckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/86586
20:38.09Hjalte^ Cartographer 3 error
20:38.23durcynDARKGuy: you're, uh, using eqcompare.  heh.
20:38.40DARKGuydurcyn: yes why? I use it to compare my current gear with items I loot :P
20:38.56durcynit's been built into the game for what, three patches now? >_<
20:39.00kadrahilthis video is hilarious
20:39.03kadrahilhe's bashing joana
20:39.06kadrahilhttp://warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=67629&stream=Youtube
20:39.08kadrahilstops
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20:40.24ckknightHjalte: fixed and pushed
20:40.53Hjalteckknight: Oh, you did that just now. You cheat.
20:41.00ckknightlol
20:41.01ckknightwhat?
20:41.18HjalteOh, you fixed it from my error message already?
20:41.34HjalteI thought you had been working on it and just pushed it at the same time I submitted the error :)
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20:42.02DARKGuydurcyn: no way, well I come from pre-tbc, I thought 2.4 didn't had that feature yet :/
20:42.19ckknightHjalte: no, it just had to be moved higher
20:42.27DARKGuyat least when I don't have EQC, my current gear doesn't compare in a tooltip next to the item I'm hovering on
20:42.30CIA-4003funkydude * r71532 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: increase report throttle
20:42.34DARKGuyscratches head
20:43.52Matrix110|hmmmm
20:44.20syerenFunkeh`, how are you finding writing a gold spam addon?
20:44.34Funkeh`increasingly annoying
20:44.36Matrix110|I guess he doesnt like the constant filter updating :P
20:45.07Matrix110|Gotta admit even if SpamMeNot is horribly coded as I heard it blocks most spam even when its totally new :P
20:45.26hydrogenjust look for lines with dollar signs, "gold", a length > 50 characters, by level one characters
20:45.42Funkeh`Matrix110|, actually I don't do much filter updating as I used to
20:45.42Matrix110|hydrogen that delays chat messages to much
20:45.47Funkeh`was only because the mod was new
20:45.53Funkeh`lucky to get 1 new site a day
20:46.11Matrix110|hmm might test it sometime
20:46.20Matrix110|maybe it can make SpamMeNot go away!
20:46.34LywellynFunkeh`:  I was told you might be the person to talk to about getting set up with an SVN account? :3
20:46.40Funkeh`I don't suggest removing it if you use WIm or something
20:46.47ReAnthose nicely formatter /commands in say, ORA are cuz of AceConfig right?
20:46.47Funkeh`I don't offer any support for those addons
20:46.50Matrix110|no WIM here
20:47.16Funkeh`Lywellyn, you should read up about sending an email
20:47.26Funkeh`it's on the wiki
20:47.42Matrix110|hmmm i need a better output area for my Scorch reminder but Sink integration would mean config iam to noobish to integrated that :D
20:47.46LywellynI did, but Ackis said I might be able to help move it along :3  (I signed and emailed already)
20:48.04Funkeh`Lywellyn, then it will get done when I next log in ;)
20:48.16LywellynAlright, cool then. :)
20:48.35Funkeh`~slap Ackis
20:48.36purlACTION slaps Ackis, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
20:48.53LywellynI knew I shouldn't have mentioned his name >.>
20:48.55Matrix110|can i send Messages to the raid warning frame so only i can see them like BigWigs does but in a easy way?
20:49.09AckisWorklol Funkeh'
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20:49.19Funkeh`Matrix110|, sure
20:49.24Lywellynit's not ', Ackis, it's `. :p
20:49.31Matrix110|how?
20:49.43Matrix110|i suppose its something similiar to Chatframe1AddMessage("")
20:49.43CIA-4003belazor * r71533 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (Cryolysis3.lua functions/frames.lua functions/global.lua):
20:49.44CIA-40Cryolysis3:
20:49.44CIA-40- Main sphere is now draggable
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20:49.49Funkeh`steal the eline from sink
20:49.50AckisWorkw/e :P
20:49.55Funkeh`the the 'rw' function
20:49.55*** part/#wowace synkki (n=synkki@dna247-57.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi)
20:50.07Funkeh`Raid_Warn_Addmessage or something
20:50.10Matrix110|hmm
20:50.12Matrix110|ill look
20:51.02Matrix110|ah
20:51.03Matrix110|RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame, text, c[r][g][b])
20:51.18Matrix110|thank Funkeh`
20:51.28Funkeh`np
20:56.20CIA-4003rabbit * r71534 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: Optional/Cooldown: Tuneups and hopefully fixed scaling.
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20:58.31CIA-4003funkydude * r71535 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: tweak blacklist
20:59.25Matrix110|ok i fail
21:00.07Jadrieckknight: I'm getting an error when I open Cartographer up now
21:00.09Jadrie..\AddOns\Cartographer\Cartographer.lua line 913:   attempt to call method 'GetNumOnline' (a nil value)
21:00.14Matrix110|RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame,"TEST", c[r][g][b]) doesnt work RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame,"TEST") doesnt work
21:00.21nevcairielJadrie: update again, he fixed that
21:00.25Jadrieah ok
21:00.27Matrix110|and cant find out the right colorcode aswell
21:00.41Matrix110|or not the colorcode i meant how to write it correctly
21:00.45Matrix110|god i hate syntax
21:02.37Funkeh`isn't it {1,1,1}
21:02.40Funkeh`Matrix110|,
21:02.44Matrix110|could be :P
21:02.47Matrix110|ill test
21:03.04Matrix110|woho
21:03.05Matrix110|works
21:03.08Matrix110|i love you:P
21:03.19Kalrothhot
21:03.24Funkeh`ew
21:04.18Matrix110|hmmm
21:04.21Matrix110|it keeps being black
21:04.34Matrix110|0 0 0 1 1 1 255 255 255 are all black
21:04.53KalrothAnd you don't like black? You racist, you!
21:04.57Matrix110|well
21:05.02Matrix110|its not really that good visible:P
21:06.12nevcairielmaybe you have wrong alpha?
21:06.47thelibrarianKalroth: no, All Blacks, like the rugby team
21:06.47Matrix110|well ive got no clue? :P
21:06.56sacaraschas the recount spam been fixed or is it something one must turn off?
21:07.01Matrix110|so i need a 4th variable aswell i suppose
21:07.02Matrix110|*test*
21:07.08Elsiasacarasc: is fixed
21:07.12KalrothRaidNotice_AddMessage(frame, "TEST", {1,0,0});
21:07.15Kalrothshould be a red line
21:07.21Elsiasacarasc: i.e. update ;)
21:07.23Matrix110|nope
21:07.26Matrix110|its black Kalman|
21:07.34Kalrothgiggles at Kalman
21:07.35Matrix110|kalroth i meant
21:07.41Kalman|DAMN YOU, KALROTH
21:07.41Matrix110|sorry:P
21:07.43Kalman|DAMN YOU
21:07.44Kalman|:)
21:08.13sacarascElsia: thanks
21:09.41CIA-4003Balstor * r71536 10LD50_abar/ (. embeds.xml):
21:09.41CIA-40LD50_abar:
21:09.41CIA-40- stupid sce3 requirements for shared media
21:09.41CIA-40- luxus is evil
21:09.53Funkeh`you know the funny thing is you're not actually coloring the message, you're coloring the frame
21:10.02Matrix110|lol
21:10.09Funkeh`if you notice, stick 2 messages in with different colors, the old message will change color
21:10.44KalrothThat's kinda cheap, no?
21:10.59Funkeh`it's blizz so meh
21:11.10KalrothBe nice!
21:11.31Matrix110|hmm i guess i need a c|0102301239898312 color code for the message?
21:11.44nevcairielThats why i still use the bigwigs frame and not the RWF
21:14.40CIA-4003Balstor * r71537 10LD50_ap/ (. embeds.xml):
21:14.40CIA-40LD50_ap:
21:14.40CIA-40- stupid ace3 requirements for shared media
21:14.40CIA-40- luxus is evil
21:15.44NeoTronis there a is there an addon where I, from a macro, can set a customizable timer that at tne end of it alerts me with msg/sound/other notification?
21:16.12NeoTronand where the alert is named/unique so I replace it if I add it again..
21:17.46Funkeh`balstor, CBH has nothing to do with ace3
21:17.51Funkeh`maybe you should read it
21:18.14balstorit's in the ace3 directory
21:18.18ckknightFunkeh`: so it should be moved from Ace3
21:18.20Funkeh`so is libstub
21:18.25ckknightno, Funkeh`, it's not
21:18.26Funkeh`does that mean libstub is ace3?
21:18.37ckknightthe main LibStub is in trunk
21:18.50ckknightalso, Kaelten told me that CallbackHandler-1.0 will be moved out of Ace3 to trunk
21:18.54ckknightbut it might be a while
21:19.08nevcairielKaelten needs to stop slacking =P
21:19.10Funkeh`you're completetely changing the discussion.. but ok
21:19.15ckknightnevcairiel: he's in the middle of moving
21:19.16balstorhey you live in the ace3 house your goung to be know as part of ace3, once it moves then i want call it part of the ace3 umbrella
21:19.21ckknightnevcairiel: but I saw him and his family today
21:19.30nevcairielhe always has excuses
21:19.30balstors/want/wint
21:19.33nevcairielwork .. moving .. sick..
21:19.34nevcairiel:P
21:19.34balstors/want/wont
21:19.40GnarfozNeoTron: bigwigs has /bwlcb seconds text
21:19.40Funkeh`balstor, Hi! LSM has no ace3 requirement
21:19.58ckknightFunkeh`: untrue, Ace3 has to be specified in X-Embeds
21:20.07Funkeh`ckknight, what the hell
21:20.08ckknightin order for CallbackHandler-1.0 to be picked up properly
21:20.12Matrix110|this fails-.-
21:20.13NeoTronGnarfoz: does that ding me? I was thinking about using it for reminding me to cast immolate
21:20.22nevcairielthats why you just copy the CBH file in :P
21:20.28Funkeh`no it doesn't thats like saying libstub needs to be specified in x embeds
21:20.31Funkeh`neither should be
21:20.33NeoTronGnarfoz: and other debuffs - i.e don't need an addon to keep track fo that when all I need is a timer
21:20.51GnarfozNeoTron: well, there's other addons that do entire rotation timer bars (i.e. way more complex), but you could abuse it for that, I guess
21:20.51ckknightit depends on the library structure and what the library itself loads
21:21.00ckknightwhether the library is loading LibStub/CallbackHandler-1.0 in itself or not
21:21.10ckknightwhich not all do
21:21.17NeoTronGnarfoz: because I'm concentrated at other stuff during raids I need something that's in my face to remind me to reapply it
21:21.24Funkeh`ckknight, X-embeds has nothing to do with it
21:21.28ckknightgranted, they should
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21:22.29Funkeh`If you use externals CBH is in the lib, if you don't it's in the addon
21:22.34Funkeh`it should NEVER be standalone
21:22.37Funkeh`like libstub
21:22.38vhaarrNeoTron: yes it dings
21:22.46Funkeh`libstub and cbh should never be defined in x embeds
21:24.05Matrix110|RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidWarningFrame, mymessage, {r=1,g=0,b=0}) is how you need to write it so it works...
21:24.12Matrix110|no comment
21:24.40CIA-4003Balstor * r71538 10LD50_abar/ (LD50_abar.toc embeds.xml):
21:24.40CIA-40LD50_abar:
21:24.40CIA-40- Updated x-embeds
21:27.01CIA-4003Balstor * r71539 10LD50_ap/LD50_ap.toc:
21:27.01CIA-40LD50_ap:
21:27.01CIA-40- Updated x-embeds
21:27.49balstorckknight thanks i forgot to update x-embeds for ACE-3 for SML-3.0
21:28.19Daelicis there some documentation around for libBars-1.0? I've not been able to find any
21:28.50durcynnot really, but the code is pretty self explanatory
21:29.01Funkeh`balstor, are you an idiot or what?
21:29.25durcynDaelic: take a look at the included TestAddon for examples, or TickTock, Omniscience, MagicTargets, and I've also got an Hourglass branch using libbars
21:29.28balstorno i was just yanking your chain that time
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21:29.54DaelicI've been looking at cryolisis as an example, let me check those out, might be easier to figure out
21:30.08Daelicthanks :)
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21:30.18durcynit's far easier to use than candybar, that's for sure.  you throw up an anchor and bam :NewBar works
21:30.21Funkeh`balstor, I'll stick to my opinion
21:30.45durcynwell, NewCounterBar and NewTimerBar anyway, i think he changed the mixins a while back
21:31.11DaelicI've never been good at the visual part of coding, so this is really my first time trying to make anything other than chat output
21:31.33durcynyou don't have to manipulate anything gui-ish to use the lib
21:31.55Daelicwhich is perfect for me to start with. :D
21:32.06balstorYour opinion is fine but the fact is the library in question is located in the file ACE3.tar no libcallbakhandler.tar and a majority of people are going to say it's part of the ACE-3 package. it may only be a packeging thing but thats the view people will have
21:32.24PolarinaIt's Ace, not string.upper("Ace")
21:32.37Funkeh`balstor, it's in LSM, does that make it part of that package also?
21:32.41durcynbalstor: ace3 uses cbh the same way it uses libstub, you've got hte dependency reversed
21:32.45durcynthe*
21:33.03Funkeh`every lib has a copy of cbh(if needed) and LibStub
21:33.07Funkeh`ace3 is a lib
21:33.10Funkeh`I don't see the issue
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21:35.22balstorbut libstub has http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibStub/  where CallbackHandler-1.0 doesn't , so riddle me this if the author od CallbackHandler-1.0 needs to checkin a change where does this get checkedinto right now?
21:35.53Funkeh`balstor, you shouldn't even be using the trunk
21:35.59Funkeh`that was only made for dev purposes
21:36.12Funkeh`you should be using the LibStub in /tags
21:36.54balstoryhea i see how you care not to answer the question, point made
21:37.30Funkeh`you're complaining because CBH doesn't have its own dir
21:37.31Funkeh`jesus
21:37.35Funkeh`I see the river already
21:38.12MeraSomeone know the trick to make a frame not movable out of the screen, so when I move my frame out , it's automatically blocking
21:38.15Mera?
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21:38.32Funkeh`Mera, :setClampedToScreen(true)
21:38.43Merathanks chief ;)
21:38.47Funkeh`S
21:41.59Gnarfozvhaarr: in your recent changes to BugSack, did you purposely also nuke the slash commands to open it? I'm just seeing you removing the keybindings, but can't find anything regarding slash commands. short version: OMG BugSack slash commands broken?! :)
21:42.21vhaarrGnarfoz: I removed the /bs command, /bugsack still works
21:42.25Gnarfozah.
21:42.41Gnarfozvhaarr: great, thanks =)
21:44.17Matrix110|hmmm
21:44.31Matrix110|AceTimer works standalone or?
21:44.57Funkeh`Matrix110|, yes
21:45.02Matrix110|k
21:46.10Zhinjiodoes a child module have access to its parent variables? local vs. global? anything weird I should know about there?
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21:47.41Arrowmasterlocal variables are only local for the file at most
21:47.50Arrowmasterso if the module is in a different file then no
21:47.56ZhinjioArrowmaster: ok. that makes sense
21:48.10Arrowmasterunless your doing setfenv/getfenv trickery
21:48.15Zhinjionah
21:48.36ZhinjioI saw the references for SV stuff, so I'm think I'm good on that.
21:48.37ZhinjioHmm...
21:49.07ZhinjioI probably will use per-module localization stuff because my localizations strings are ... well, there's alot of them
21:49.21Zhinjiosplitting it out per module is probably gonna save me some memory
21:50.56Zhinjiocan't think of anything else to ask right now.
21:50.58AckisWorkWhen you disable an add-on, do you need to worry about tremove(UISpecialFrames, "ARL.Frame") ?
21:51.18Zhinjioso I guess I'll give it a shot tonight
21:51.26Zhinjioassuming I haven't had too much to drink.
21:51.31AckisWorklol
21:51.57CIA-4003rabbit * r71540 10oUF_Banzai/oUF_Banzai.lua: oUF_Banzai: Frames can now have a .Banzai property pointing to a function that gets called when aggro status changes; self.Banzai = function(self, unit, aggro)
21:52.17vhaarrAckisWork: are you talking about the Ace2 :OnDisable functionality?
21:52.22vhaarrAckisWork: I'm not sure you understand how things work
21:52.41vhaarrin fact, I know you don't
21:52.49AckisWorkthat's probably right
21:53.16vithosToadkiller: my basic bar is longer than the whole screen, so now i can't move it where i need with clamp to screen
21:53.25Zhinjiook, beer o'clock. Peace, y'all.
21:53.30vhaarrAckisWork: :OnDisable on your addon causes Ace2's libraries to undo anything you did in :OnEnable, is probably the easiest way to put it
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21:53.45vhaarrAckisWork: any events registered, hooks hooked or anything like that will get reverted
21:54.02vhaarr(provided you used AceEvent and AceHook, etc)
21:54.13AckisWorkSo is there any point in having code in :OnDisable() ?
21:54.24vhaarrthink about it
21:54.24AckisWorkI don't hook, I just use events
21:54.39vhaarryour addon will stop getting events, does that mean it's disabled?
21:54.44vhaarrsome addons add buttons to the UI, for example
21:54.49vhaarryou'd have to hide those frames in OnDisable then
21:54.53vhaarrthat's just one example
21:55.05Fix[EJ].ap 2900
21:55.09Fix[EJ]doh
21:55.37AckisWorkAhh ok, so OnDisable just removes hooks/event listening, you have to manually remove other modifications... If that's correct then I understood it partially
21:55.57vhaarrAckisWork: it only removes hooks/events that you registered to your addon with AceEvent and AceHook
21:56.15vhaarranything else must be unregistered or unhooked manually
21:56.21AckisWorkYes, I'm assuming Ace framework usage
21:56.25vhaarrright
21:56.41vhaarranything done outside the ace2 framework must be disabled manually in OnDisable
21:57.00AckisWorkSo then the answer to my original question is: yes, I do
21:57.14vhaarrAckisWork: well, that depends, do you insert it again in OnEnable or OnInit?
21:57.28vhaarrAckisWork: and, does it matter if the frame is listed there as long as your addons events are not registered?
21:57.35vhaarri.e. will the frame ever open then
21:57.44dieckhm, Necromonicon can only delete soulshards "out of soul bags". So if I have none while leveling, it will delete all shards. Is there an addon that can delete all soulshards above a set amount? e.g. 10?
21:58.06vithosToadkiller: nevermind, just needed to reduce the rows, my bad
21:58.06AckisWorkIt's added OnEnable, and it shouldn't matter if it's listed.  I only have it listed so that you can close with escape
21:58.21vhaarrAckisWork: you probably create the frame either OnInit or when it is first needed, right?
21:58.45AckisWorkVhaarr: It's created when it's first needed, not on init
21:58.55vhaarrAckisWork: and then you insert it into the table
21:59.12vhaarrAckisWork: your frame won't go away when you disable the addon
21:59.22vhaarrit will still be there, so there's no reason to remove it from that table
21:59.23AckisWorkVhaarr: Actually, I'm inserting it into the table before I create it...
21:59.34vhaarrAckisWork: well that's not a good idea, is it
21:59.40AckisWorkno, no it's not
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22:01.43AckisWorkCreation of the frame when it's needed opposed to OnInit is better for "on-demand" type things?
22:01.57vhaarrindeed, no need to create it until it's needed
22:02.59vhaarrif your addon can be disabled, you should never create any frames OnInit either, you should do it in functino addon:OnEnable(first) if first then --[[ create frame ]] end end
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22:03.41AckisWorkYes, I was struggling between the difference between init/enable actually
22:04.41vhaarrOnInit is always called, even if your addon is in a disabled state, OnEnable is called when the addon is enabled
22:04.48vhaarrso you should register the slash command in OnInit
22:05.06vhaarrthe first argument to OnEnable is true if it's the first time the addon has been enabled this session
22:05.34vhaarrif your addon embeds AceDB-2.0 and AceConsole-2.0, you'll have a /addon standby command that toggles the addon enabled/disabled
22:05.40vhaarrthis state is also saved between sessions
22:07.14AckisWorkDidn't know about the argument to OnEnable actually
22:09.15CIA-4003ackis * r71541 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua):
22:09.15CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
22:09.15CIA-40- Fix for tremove issue
22:09.15CIA-40- Only tinsert the frame after the frame is created (Thanks Rabbit)
22:09.15CIA-40- Fix (I hope) for Skillet
22:09.16CIA-40- All dry-coded
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22:10.15Arrowmasterthe argument to OnEnable is an Ace2/Rock thing only, its not in Ace3
22:10.46AckisWorkway to crush my dreams Arrowmaster =/
22:11.15Arrowmasterits easy to reproduce it
22:12.01Arrowmaster'local first = true' then inside the OnEnable just do 'if first then first = false .... else .... end'
22:16.22CIA-4003sayclub * r71542 10GridIndicatorCornerText/ (2 files):
22:16.22CIA-40GridIndicatorCornerText :
22:16.22CIA-40<PROTECTED>
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22:23.21aestilwhat horde classes can be shaman?
22:23.31GagorianTauren
22:23.37GagorianAnd orc
22:23.43aestiland troll right?
22:23.44AckisWorktroll
22:23.47Gagorianyeah
22:23.57aestildo orc's and troll's have the same starting point?
22:24.05Gagorianyes
22:24.33aestilorc warrior > than troll warrior?
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22:28.18DranorClearly
22:28.59aestilorc shaman > troll shaman also?
22:29.00Dranorfor tanking purposes Tauren > Orc > Undead/Troll
22:29.28Dranorhm...
22:29.44Dranorfor shamans it's a choice
22:30.28Dranorif you choose orc you have a "free" trinket @70 which gives about 250dmg&heal
22:30.58Dranorbut if you take the way of the troll you have berserking which can be really handy in several situations
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22:32.25Dranoralso if you choose orc shaman you have +5 expertise with axes, equal to humans mace/sword skill
22:32.33LywellynQuestion: If you have checked out an addon, made changes to it locally, then update it again (and the update also has changes to that file), do the local changes get saved along with the SVN changes?
22:32.56SunTsuLywellyn: They should
22:32.59DARKGuyI think it'll say there's a conflict and then you'll have to solve it with a diff?
22:33.02LywellynAwesome.
22:33.28SunTsuDARKGuy: Only when the changes contradict something, AFAIK
22:33.37DranorSVN will try to patch it, if it can't SVN will complaint about conflicts and tell you to edit it
22:33.44DARKGuyOhh I see
22:34.00DARKGuyThanks =p
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22:39.45syerenhaste :(
22:39.48syerenI need your help :(
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22:40.33what-Khi all i look for an ace addon like archud
22:40.43SunTsuwhat-K: mhud, dahud
22:40.49what-Kthx
22:40.53what-Kwich iss better ß
22:41.04SunTsuwhat-K: It's a matter of taste
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22:42.56CIA-4003Shot * r71543 10DoIKnowYou/ (Console.xml DoIKnowYou.lua Frame.xml):
22:42.56CIA-40DoIKnowYou:
22:42.56CIA-40- Fix DogTag
22:42.56CIA-40- Fix Event handler function calls
22:42.56CIA-40- Add right click dropdown "Do I Know You?" on players (feedback appreciated)
22:42.58CIA-40- Update frames to use more addon-specific element names
22:44.23aestilDranor: i really don't like troll's, so at least, orc's aren't the worse shaman?
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22:47.14syerenOrcs are good Shamans due to stun resist.
22:47.19syerenTauren are great too.
22:47.22syerenTrolls are eugh.
22:47.35CIA-4003apoco * r71544 10RBM/DeBuffWatch/DeBuffWatch.lua: RBM: - De|BuffWatch: Bug fix around BS
22:51.54Diaoargh
22:52.07Diaoautobar change won't let me move autobar partially off the screen now :(
22:53.07vithosDiao: reduce the number of rows/columns until it fits
22:54.13Diaoah
23:00.11vithosToadkiller: adding new buttons seems broken
23:00.28ramozAny SorrenTimer pros here? want it to show all dots i do on all targets =(
23:00.32CIA-4003arcanefoam * r71545 10DHUD2/ (48 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:00.32CIA-40DHUD2:
23:00.32CIA-40- Cast bars for player and target are now working
23:00.32CIA-40- Added player dropdown menu when right clikcing the players health bar
23:00.32CIA-40- Fixed the playes bars keeping empty when release form death takes you to alive and not to ghost
23:00.33CIA-40- Fixed a bug causing weapon buffs to show after expiering and causing this functionality to stop working
23:00.35CIA-40- Fixed the scaling of fonts (except for player buffs)
23:01.13CIA-4003rabbit * r71546 10oUF_Banzai/oUF_Banzai.lua: oUF_Banzai: Revert for now, didn't work 100%.
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23:01.37aestilcladhaire: is there a version of lightheaded out that has the Load on Demand features?
23:01.45cladhaireyes?
23:01.54aestilso the wowi page is wrong?
23:02.09cladhaire"the wowi page"
23:02.10cladhaire?
23:02.16aestilwowinterface
23:02.36cladhaireyes, which page are you talking about
23:02.45aestilThis version of the addon will only work with 2.4 In addition, I've removed the Load on Demand capabilities to get out a working 2.4 release. Please delete ALL LightHeaded addons from your addons directory before installing this version.
23:02.48LywellynProbably your wowi addon page for lightheaded.
23:02.52aestilhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html
23:02.56cladhairethat text hasn't been updated since 2.4
23:02.59cladhaireread teh changelog
23:03.16aestilthanks for makign what was such a simple question, so difficult to answer.
23:03.25cladhaireexcuse me?
23:03.30cladhairei answered your question
23:03.36cladhaireand i was trying to figure out what "page" you were talking about
23:03.40cladhairei have lots of addons, abd i've posted lots of things
23:03.44cladhaireon forums, comments, and in addon descriptions
23:03.51cladhairei was attempting to determine exactly what you were referring to.
23:04.00cladhairethanks for making what was sucha  simple question, so difficult to answer.
23:04.08Lywellyncringes. "Don't hurt me" he whines.
23:04.38Lywellyn<3 for LH though.  Can't live without it now. :p
23:05.08aestilwell, it seems obvious that you knew, that the page you would go to download lightheaded, hadn't had its text updated for quite some time.
23:05.20cladhaireaestil: Hence why I asked, because it was not obvious to me.
23:05.24cladhaireI didn't recall posting it there.
23:05.36cladhairethere was no need to be a smartass when I asked an honest question
23:05.38cladhaireI didn't do that to you
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23:05.45aestilon the contrary, i felt you did.
23:05.57cladhaireumm
23:05.59cladhairehow
23:06.01cladhairei said "yes"
23:06.03cladhaireto your question
23:06.05cladhaireand when you asked if the wowi page was out of date, I asked which page
23:06.09cladhairelike
23:06.11cladhairei smoke crack on occasion
23:06.13cladhairebut... wtf?
23:06.18LywellynxD
23:06.22Lywellyn"on occasion"
23:06.31pastamancerit gets you really high
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23:07.13cladhaireaestil: but don't expect to bring the claws out without reason and have me sit by idly
23:07.21cladhaireread the log and see how long it took to get my question answered, versus yours
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23:07.46cladhairei'm a really accommodating person, but I don't like shit like that
23:07.50cladhaireand on that note, I'm going to bed
23:07.58Lywellynnight clad
23:07.58cladhairethe movie "Cellular"
23:07.59cladhairereally lame
23:08.06aestilthe wowi page for 'lightheaded'
23:08.32cladhaireyes, funny that Lywellyn was the one who gave me that answer
23:08.32Lywellynaestil: What is obvious to some, may not be obvious to others.  Just let it go.
23:08.59cladhairebut if you're going to continue this
23:09.00cladhaireaestil: so the wowi page is wrong?
23:09.00cladhaire[00:02] cladhaire: "the wowi page"
23:09.00cladhaire[00:02] cladhaire: ?
23:09.00cladhaire[00:02] aestil: wowinterface
23:09.00cladhaire[00:02] cladhaire: yes, which page are you talking about
23:09.33cladhairethen rather than answering me, you copied and pasted the text from the page.
23:09.38CIA-4003arcanefoam * r71547 10DHUD2/ (. DHUD_Readme_en.txt Layouts/):
23:09.38CIA-40DHUD2:
23:09.38CIA-40-Deleted old files not used anymore
23:09.45cladhaireaestil: thanks for your report, I've updated the description page.
23:09.52cladhaireLywellyn: Thanks for your help
23:10.03Lywellyncladhaire: My pleasure.
23:10.07aestilcladhaire: i actually was copy pasting before you asked the question
23:10.20cladhaireokay, thats fine
23:10.27cladhaireit doesn't matter
23:10.33aestili just decided as an answer, to paste, since i was in the process.
23:10.43aestilthanks for the mod.
23:10.45aestilget some rest
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23:11.41Fix[EJ]Oh my god, whoever updated CooldownTimers2 to actually pulse the bars again when a spell is on cooldown -- I love you
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23:12.44CIA-4003totalpackage * r71548 10Capping/core.lua:
23:12.44CIA-40Capping:
23:12.44CIA-40- adjusted spacing from .5 to 1
23:13.37Julithantiarc: I've added some features to MobSpells in my branch and had them tested for about two weeks now. Whould you like to take a look at them?
23:14.26LywellynI think he's on Antiarc|Laptop right now
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23:16.10Julithhmm, seems to be away anyway
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23:20.05Ironhandwas Grid recently changed to put a coloured border around the center icon?
23:20.20Julithironhand: yes
23:20.43IronhandJulith: know of a way to turn it off?
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23:22.36Ironhand(or anyone)
23:23.17Julithironhand: dunno, you could take a look in the grid-thread in the wowace forum or just browse through the config of grid ingame
23:23.40Ironhandok thanks - tried the latter but I'm notoriously settings-blind
23:24.03pastamancerIronhand: Frame -> Advanced -> Icon Border Size
23:24.07pastamancerset it to 0
23:24.30Ironhandthanks pastamancer, blindness it was indeed :-)
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23:28.14CIA-4003julith * r71549 10/trunk/ (GridDecent/ GridStatusControlPipes/): GridDecent: renamed to GridStatusControlPipes
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23:35.27CIA-4003digmouse * r71550 10CooldownTimers2/Locale/Locale-deDE.lua:
23:35.27CIA-40CooldownTimers2:
23:35.27CIA-40-deDE update, source from taalas's post on cdt2 forum thread, need deDE players to test it out.
23:35.27CIA-40-taalas, if you can see this update, contact me over IRC, so I can update the missing entries for you.
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23:36.18Arrowmastercpu at 140F = not fun
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23:37.03Lywellynsure it is
23:37.09Lywellynkeeps you warm in the winter.
23:37.24Arrowmasterwell its 85F in the house right now
23:37.33Lywellynwhy's it so high?
23:37.43Arrowmasterits fucking hot out?
23:37.51Arrowmasterand no AC
23:37.52CIA-4003julith * r71551 10GridStatusControlPipes/ (6 files):
23:37.52CIA-40GridStatusControlPipes:
23:37.52CIA-40- completed renaming
23:37.52CIA-40- removed everything except the control pipes
23:38.12Lywellynwell I don't know where you live, I don't know how hot it is :p
23:38.14CIA-4003ackis * r71552 10AckisRecipeList/ARLOptions.lua:
23:38.14CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
23:38.14CIA-40- It's getting hot in here so take off all your clothes
23:38.33digmouseanything wrong with your cooling?
23:38.40Arrowmasteryeah its old
23:38.51LywellynAckis?
23:39.00Arrowmasterand under a table
23:39.02Ackishi
23:39.08Lywellynthe hell? lol
23:39.19AckisI saw arrow's comment while doing a commit
23:39.32LywellynLOL
23:39.42Lywellynyou keep making me update my copy, yamnit! :p
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23:43.59Lywellynwhy'd you delete the options file?
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23:45.58CIA-4003arcanefoam * r71553 10DHUD2/internal_changelog.txt:
23:45.58CIA-40DHUD2:
23:45.58CIA-40-Deleted more unused files.
23:45.58CIA-40-Changes the required libraries to see if it only downloads the right ones.
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23:50.02CIA-4003rabbit * r71554 10oUF_Rabbit/ (layout.lua media/Smoothv2.tga media/smooth.tga): oUF_Rabbit: Tweaks to the raid frames, add 2 new textures, still experimenting with which one to use. Back to using class coloring for the raid frames.
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23:52.07AckisIs there a character limit on db entries w/ AceDB-3.0?
23:52.50CIA-4003Shot * r71555 10DoIKnowYou/ (. embeds.xml):
23:52.50CIA-40DoIKnowYou:
23:52.50CIA-40- Update externals & embeds
23:54.09AckisI'm getting: 429: Usage: AceDBObject:RegisterDefaults(defaults): 'zandalar' is not a valid datatype. not really sure why it's throwing the error for that specific one opposed to other one
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23:55.03aestilis there a 'best' totem bar addon?
23:56.41durcyntry Yata and Numen, keep whichever one you prefer
23:56.49Gnarfozautobar :D
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23:57.54vhaarrAckis: show me your table
23:58.48Ackishttp://ace.pastey.net/86601
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