IRC log for #wowace on 20080422

00:00.43SumpinFishyno bongos....I have tried AG-uf, pitbull and grid....I am pretty sure it is dogtags 3.0   just trying to narrow it down
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00:01.17charongrid uses dogtag?
00:01.28luxusno
00:01.33Tasky100$ serious
00:01.43Tasky100% *
00:02.01*** join/#wowace Scylia (n=IceChat7@eu85-10-70-228.adsl.euphonynet.be)
00:02.38ScyliaHi there, is there a "CandyBar" or remplacement for Ace3 ?
00:02.52CIA-4003toadkiller * r70811 10AutoBar/ (9 files):
00:02.52CIA-40AutoBar :
00:02.52CIA-40-- Switch texture code from BabbleSpell to GetSpellInfo
00:02.52CIA-40-- Allow dropping of spells onto a Button with a custom category in Move Button mode.
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00:05.32Funkeh`Scylia, LibBars is still under development in the branches
00:06.03SumpinFishywell, then that could rule out dog tags...but it definitely happens when either is installed...grid or pitbull
00:06.06Scyliaok, thanks, i will check this lib so
00:06.29Funkeh`Scylia, Just keep in mind, it might change, it's not finished
00:07.17Scyliayes, for sure... branches means branches :)
00:07.44CIA-4003grayhoof * r70812 10sct_options/options.lua: sct_options: Temp Fix for loading profiles
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00:08.45aestilAntiarc: what website did you want me to go to yesterday?
00:09.19charonTasky: well, i'll need that pastey. "invalid memoization" looks very much impossible to me ;)
00:09.40TaskyAlright, having some issues at the moment but I'll get it asap
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00:11.53CIA-4003rabbit * r70813 10!BugGrabber/ (!BugGrabber.toc BugGrabber.lua):
00:11.53CIA-40!BugGrabber:
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00:12.11Funkeh`anyone else using ff3b5
00:12.17XelopherisA million guilds want to be my guild, I swear. First anatheron kill back in sept, only one staff drop to date ><
00:12.19Funkeh`and the spellcheck not working
00:12.38aestilwhat staff?
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00:12.48aestilanatheron drops a staff?
00:13.13charonPillar of Lol
00:13.14Funkeh`staff of ultimate heroic wisdom
00:13.21TaskyInvalid memoization: REQUEST_CLIENT_INFO
00:13.24dylanmBest name.
00:13.24Tasky:(
00:13.32aestili've never seen anatheron drop a staff eithedr.
00:13.40dylanmIt's for droods.
00:14.11JoshBorkehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30883
00:14.12CIA-4003rabbit * r70814 10BugSack/ (10 files):
00:14.12CIA-40BugSack:
00:14.12CIA-40<PROTECTED>
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00:14.13JoshBorketo be exact
00:14.21aestil12 hour day today.
00:14.26aestilbrain dead at this point.
00:14.30Taskyhere's your pastey
00:14.30Taskyhttp://ace.pastey.net/86221
00:14.40aestil4.15 - 4.30
00:14.41Funkeh`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30883
00:14.47Funkeh`meh
00:15.28aestili ran prince enough times to be exalted twice without him ever dropping the caster dagger, and never once seeing the shadow dmg trash necklace drop.
00:15.33OrionshockTasky: threat-2.0-r68842
00:15.36Funkeh`Tasky, you can start by not being 2000 revisions out of date
00:15.37Orionshock^^ problem
00:15.49charonTasky: what he said
00:15.55TaskyHey: I'm just unzipping what I got from Curse...
00:16.04TaskyNot much more I can do?
00:16.09aestilnote the link when you join this forum
00:16.18aestilfiles.wowace.com
00:16.18XelopherisAestil, we rot all the prot/conq chests, because everyone has full offsets, and stam geared offsets, and everything. And people still need main vanq chests
00:16.18aestiltaksy
00:16.18aestilgo there.
00:16.19OrionshockTasky: files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip
00:16.23Funkeh`Tasky, yes there is, ask Antiarc to update curse
00:16.26Funkeh`he slacks
00:16.29VonhintenHOME`aestil, we have a shadow priest rocking 1400 shadow damage and still doesn't have that damn trash neck
00:16.38aestilman, thats awesome.
00:16.48aestilat 1400 shadow dmg, can he compete for a top 5 dps spot?
00:16.58JoshBorkeno
00:17.06JoshBorkeT6 blows spriests out of the water
00:17.07VonhintenHOME`he just recently switched to a bunch of haste gear, he's coming close to top 5
00:17.13charonin any case, i have to say that denying that either trunk is stable or stable is usable makes things easier.
00:17.17VonhintenHOME`We're not T6 though, T5
00:17.23JoshBorkean spriest can't do 2k dps
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00:17.30TaskyOK. Deleted old Omen folder and unzipped one from wowace
00:17.41aestilSP's scale so horribley, i don't know why they nurfed shadow weaving, and SW:P etc.
00:17.47aestilits somewhat rediculous.
00:17.56aestilnerfed even.
00:18.00Diaoblame the locks
00:18.01VonhintenHOME`broken class
00:18.08aestilyeah, we are overpowered.
00:18.10aestilVT breaks us.
00:18.12aestil: /
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00:18.31aestilstill, its hard, because tracking how much mana you regened isn't completely fulfilling.
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00:18.38dylanmSure it is!
00:18.53JoshBorkeaestil: i always liked stroking myself when i saw that i regenned the second most mana
00:18.54aestili hate being in a healo group.
00:18.55Kebinusanis there an addon that tracks hidden trinket cooldowns so I can see when my trinkets might proc again
00:18.59TaskyLaff. http://ace.pastey.net/86223
00:19.03TaskyStill doing it :)
00:19.25TaskyThreat-2.0 r70660
00:19.40Funkeh`when does it do it
00:20.22TaskyWell, I just attacked a mob solo, and it popped that error.
00:22.23charoncan you /dump #(LibStub("Threat-2.0").memoizations)
00:22.32Taskysure.
00:23.02VonhintenHOME`you misspelled memorizations ?
00:23.13dylanmNo.
00:23.19Shirikno
00:23.21Shirikmemoize
00:23.35Shirik~dict memoize
00:23.42Shirik~wiki memoize
00:24.24VonhintenHOME`hm, never heard of it before
00:24.42Shirikit's a fairly common programming practice
00:24.49VonhintenHOME`bite me
00:25.15charonTasky: or wait. i forgot that it's not a numbered table, hence that won't work
00:26.50charonTasky: /run for k, v in pairs(LibStub("Threat-2.0").memoizations) do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(k..":"..v) end
00:26.55ShirikTasky: /script for k,v in pairs(LibStub"Threat-2.0" bah
00:26.58Shirikfine
00:27.39CIA-4003toadkiller * r70815 10AutoBar/ (10 files):
00:27.39CIA-40AutoBar :
00:27.39CIA-40-- Add individual Ctrl, Alt, Shift settings to cancel fadeout with.
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00:32.46TaskyHm, not doing popping it anymore.
00:32.58Taskyerrr
00:33.01Taskyredundant verbs
00:33.02Taskybut
00:33.07Taskyyou get the idea :)
00:33.13CIA-4003funkydude * r70816 10BigWigs/Extras/Test.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Test: tweak
00:36.10LukianTasky, well you can only pop it once, amirite? :D
00:36.13charonTasky: good :)
00:37.01charoni still can't see how that error ever came about, the last change that involved R_C_I according to git-log -S was back in mid february, and the curse version is "just" two weeks old
00:37.05charonanyway, night all
00:40.42CIA-40037destiny * r70817 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: koKR Update
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00:42.23starlonFunkeh`: Thanks. ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA got it
00:42.42Funkeh`starlon, delayed respone?
00:42.45Funkeh`by like 7 hours?
00:42.50starlonlol yeah :)
00:43.01starlonI just got around to testing it.
00:43.20xyuneotron_:  This is causing me to miss markings.   http://ace.pastey.net/86224
00:43.48starlonI had to go to town.
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00:46.56xyulatest update
00:47.53durcynFunkeh`: EredarThreat.lua:148: attempt to index local 'guid' (a nil value).  might wanna toss an ifcheck on there in case UnitGUID fucks up, like it does
00:48.18Funkeh`...
00:48.29Funkeh`why can't it just work
00:48.31durcynjust saying, it's tossing an error here =P
00:48.50Apocobecause shit never just works
00:48.51Apoco:p
00:48.54ShirikFunkeh`, come on, does ANYTHING ever work always?
00:49.06Apocoyou should know that by now Funkeh`
00:49.14starlonFedora "just works" /cough
00:49.22starlonhides
00:49.31Apocolol
00:49.33ShirikIf by "just work" you mean melts your hard drive and turns it into deadly shrapnel
00:49.36Shirikthen yes
00:50.02starlonOh be realistic
00:50.07Shirikok I'm sorry
00:50.17Shirikit just wipes your partition table
00:50.39CIA-4003funkydude * r70818 10BigWigs_EredarThreat/BigWigs_EredarThreat.lua: BigWigs_EredarThreat: protect against a nil error
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00:52.12CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70819 10oRA2/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
00:52.12CIA-40oRA2:
00:52.12CIA-40- Update zhTW localization.
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00:59.09xyuwow this is fucking retarded.   we have 5 imps that won't despawn in SWP  next to the scout group.
00:59.14xyuand they pull from 10 miles away
00:59.22xyuand they also pull both scout groups
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01:03.48hypetechoo. here's a neat find with mobspells. http://www.eidolonguild.org/choosetarget.jpg
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01:08.49vithosxyu: maybe have some hunters nuke them and FD
01:09.00vithosthey only have like 3k hp right?
01:09.27XelopherisYou can just pull and kill the imps
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01:10.24chaud2=O ajax IRC client that works is madness.
01:11.01starlonwho still uses ajax?
01:11.37Primerwowarmory.com
01:11.58chaud2not a matter of who uses =p
01:12.11starlonno just curious
01:12.13chaud2just cool that it actually is  working
01:12.15starlondidn't mean it like that
01:12.31chaud2and what do you mean "still using" =p
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01:21.42WobWorkWhat happened with sag_ich?
01:22.50Arrowmasteronly a 50% drop rate on glaives now =(
01:22.55Arrowmasterwe didnt get one tonight =(
01:23.44starlonchaud2: For some reason I was thinking Rexx
01:24.29vhaarrChaud: well it's nothing new, really, chatZilla is written in JavaScript
01:25.48ChaudI know, but it is different!
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01:30.56starlonor arexx more specifically
01:35.37smoke_anyone here have problems with proximo?
01:35.46OrionshockArrowmaster wtf?? they up'ed it to 50%
01:35.50smoke_it shows people from previous arena games
01:42.35Hobbyanyone else use cryolysis2?
01:42.51NechcknI do but not often
01:43.13Nechcknmy poor mage hates me...  what's up?
01:43.54Hobbyit broke when moving to ace3, 8 commits later it's still completely broken...doesn't even render correctly and all hovers throw errors
01:44.16Hobbywasn't sure what's going on with it or some external isn't set up correctly on the svn
01:45.16Nechcknhmm... it seemed to work.. haven't been on in a few days, though.  One sec
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01:47.50Nechckndo you install with/without externals?
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01:50.34Hobbygrabbed with externals
01:50.48NechcknFor my use- I usually d/l the most popular ones plus have it set to grab the externals along with it, just to be sure.   Hmm... that should do it, though.
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01:53.59NechcknI'd post the first error in a "Help" thread and see if you get any bites.  I don't know anything off hand to help you though, sorry.  =(
01:58.47CIA-4003damjau * r70820 10NextStep/NextStep.lua:
01:58.47CIA-40NextStep:
01:58.47CIA-40- fix tooltip bug(sorry..)
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02:01.01CIA-4003benumbed * r70821 10DaHud/plugins/Bars/Reputation.lua:
02:01.01CIA-40DaHud:
02:01.01CIA-40<PROTECTED>
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02:04.01Jadrieis anyone's Cartographer_ExtractGas working?
02:07.39Jadrieit's load on demand, but never loads. if I ask it to load from MCP I get "Interface\\AddOns\\Cartographer_ExtractGas\\addon.lua:235: Cannot find module \"Professions\".
02:09.46durcyncheck your Carto professions prefs
02:09.55durcynalso, gathermate is the upgrade path, you might consider upgrading
02:10.37luxus_does anyone using WUU for updating addons?
02:12.07luxus_because i search for a alternative :D
02:13.37CIA-4003Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate * r70822 10EasyDND/ (EasyDND-Locale-enUS.lua EasyDND-Locale-frFR.lua EasyDND.lua):
02:13.38CIA-40EasyDND:
02:13.38CIA-40-Updated enUS loc, thanks joejanko wowui ;)
02:15.04Antiarchttp://www.strategyinformer.com/news/865/uwe-boll-asks-blizzard-for-wow-movie-rights-azeroth-way-off-limits
02:16.02QuezacoltWe will not sell the movie rights, not to you... especially not to you," was apparently Paul Sams reply, to which Azeroth was pronounced saved!
02:16.09QuezacoltLOL!
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02:16.28ZiconBrilliant.
02:17.50QuezacoltAnd the world (of Warcraft) was saved from evil.
02:18.53CIA-4003ColdLogic * r70823 10COLDCID/ (5 files):
02:18.53CIA-40COLDCID
02:18.53CIA-40- Initial Release
02:20.19durcynwhat in the nine fucks is COLDCID
02:21.38Merais now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (logon pageron)
02:22.47starlon## Title: COLD - Character Item Database
02:22.48starlon## Notes: Database of all your items from every character.
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02:26.49durcynoh, cool, because there aren't already seventeen addons that do that
02:27.38Gngskthere aren't?
02:27.44mikmabut there has to be something that makes THIS addon special!
02:28.24Zyndromeit plays The March Over River Kwai when you load it.... I guess...
02:29.44starlonshould be easy to write then
02:30.18Hobbylast night the instance servers in our BG went down in the middle of a quick mag gem farm
02:30.39Hobbyback up, tonight....half the raid gets DCd from the instance mid fight as well
02:30.42Hobbygg blizzard
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02:32.55DARKGuyHm, does Omen work in retail?
02:33.07DARKGuyoh, and g'night all :P
02:33.13Zyndromehuh wut
02:37.16Nandiniour instance servers have been screwy for the last 30 mins as well
02:37.49Nandinimy group just had people randomly DC from heroic BM and when we reconnect, get stuck at loading or hearthed back to shatt
02:38.00Nandiniand although we killed the first boss together, we all have different raid ids now
02:38.08DARKGuylol
02:38.12DARKGuythat's messed up
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02:39.21starlonwe had two guilds on opposite factions with identical raid ids a while back
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02:40.15DARKGuyI still wonder if anybody here uses Omen and tell me if it works or not, it doesn't show anybody in the threat list to me.
02:40.41ulicDARKGuy: make sure you have it on single target mode.
02:40.56starlonThe other members need to have it as well.
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02:41.28DARKGuyulic, I do =/
02:41.35DARKGuystarlon, so it doesn't work like the old omen?
02:41.41HobbyNandini: which servers?
02:41.46HobbyNandini: which realm*?
02:42.10starlonOmen has always worked like that.
02:42.23JaxonDARKGuy: the old omen only reported YOUR threat, never party's without them running it as well
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02:43.54AnarchyAoAnyone know if there's an option in mIRC that will allow you to maximize your chatroom windows and have them maximized by default every time you open mIRC?
02:45.13kadrahilvithos: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&6.34477#79623
02:45.14DARKGuyJaxon, weird, it has always shown my threat and my party's towards the targeted enemy
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02:45.50JaxonDARKGuy: if they have it installed, but it never collected threat info for everyone, because it wouldn't be entirely accurate.
02:45.55AntiarcOmen has never attempted to project others' threat. It only displays what it received from their installed copy of Threat-1.0/Threat-2.0 library.
02:46.13JaxonDARKGuy: the original Omen could read from KTMPOS, maybe your groups had that running before
02:46.35DARKGuyDon't think so, I've raided with some that don't have -any- addons at all and Omen always showed their thread
02:46.37DARKGuy*threat
02:46.48DARKGuyis confused now
02:46.49JaxonNEWP
02:46.56starlonit must have been by magic
02:46.58JaxonThey didn't need to have Omen, just a Threat library
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02:47.03DARKGuyoh
02:47.04durcynDARKGuy: not possible.  they must've had -something- that included ThreatLib
02:47.15JaxonPitbull, a lot of damage meters, soem of the HUDs
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02:47.39DARKGuyHmn, you could bet now
02:47.49anenigmaOmen can pick up healers aggro, if they heal you, too.
02:47.50DARKGuyStill, the new Omen doesn't show anything, not even my own threat
02:48.01kadrahilvithos: killed mag and gruul tonight and picked up my t4 legs, 4/5 now :O
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03:05.43AnarchyAoAnyone here use Grid and is familiar with it?
03:05.53AnarchyAoare*
03:07.07luxus_ask your questions
03:09.46Zhinjioood evening, folks.
03:10.23Zhinjioer, Good evening.
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03:12.38Arrowmasterckknight_: LGP broadcasts while in instances
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03:15.35CIA-4003krakhaan * r70824 10AB/AB.lua:
03:15.35CIA-40AB:
03:15.36CIA-40- fixed bug with standard channels i.e. guild
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03:21.46Groktar1% wipe on brut
03:21.51Groktarenhancement shaman dcd
03:21.55Groktar2 hunters died
03:21.56Groktar><
03:23.00CIA-4003hshh * r70825 10CooldownCount/ (11 files in 2 dirs): CooldownCount: Ace3 codes, and change a lot of base codes, more stable, less resouce usage. Please fix all localization, thank you.
03:26.30Arrowmasteroh god
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03:26.40Arrowmasteri bet CooldownCount blows something up
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03:28.16CIA-4003Silverstorm * r70826 10StatBlocks_RangedStats/StatBlocks_RangedStats.lua: StatBlocks_RangedStats: Show 2 decimals for ranged attack speed.
03:28.59starlonWhat clued you in? The "more stable" part?
03:29.19durcynis hshh even the maintainer?
03:30.05starlonyep
03:30.09CIA-4003toadkiller * r70827 10AutoBar/AutoBarCategory.lua:
03:30.09CIA-40AutoBar :
03:30.09CIA-40-- Fix texture path
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03:30.58durcynhm, i wonder  if it still does LSM :Fetch on every OnUpdate
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03:35.29Groktarthey just had me spec my alt priest imp divine spirit
03:35.36Groktarbuffed everyone and logged out
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03:37.10starlonhow hardcore is that
03:37.35Silverstormquestion...I'm doing some updates to my StatBlocks...if my editor can't handle the koKR stuff, do I need to use an editor that does to add my entries so someone can translate them?
03:37.55Aiianewoot... first kill on hex lord, and I got my hex-shrunken head :)
03:37.58SilverstormGroktar, which encounter?
03:38.03Groktarbrutallus
03:38.09Groktarwe had a 1% wipe the attempt before
03:38.12Groktarwhatever it takes...
03:38.27SilverstormImp DS is enough damage to make the difference, honestly
03:38.33Aiianeyeah, that's brutallus for you
03:38.41Groktarthat's our 4th 1%
03:38.41Silverstormeven locks pick up 20-30 damage from it
03:38.50Silverstormmages should get a bit more, I think
03:39.57Groktarwhat would really make the difference
03:39.59AiianeGroktar: ouch
03:40.02Groktaris the shaman not disconnecting
03:40.06Aiiane:/
03:40.06Groktarand two hunters dying to burn
03:40.30Groktarshould absolutely have this tonight
03:41.35CIA-4003hshh * r70828 10PlayerMenu/ (10 files in 2 dirs): PlayerMenu: Ace3 codes. No more other libs longer. Please fix locazation, thank you.
03:42.10Groktarcrazy listening on vent
03:42.18Groktari haven't done this since maulgar
03:42.19Groktarlol
03:42.38GroktarYES
03:42.40GroktarDEDAD
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03:43.21Groktarit's my imp ds
03:43.26Silverstormlol, my testing new features in my statblock is about like your wipes on Brut...1% typos getting me :(
03:43.43Groktartriple vanq
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03:52.35Primer!points 415
03:52.35Xinhuan415 arena points require 1561(5s), 1605(3s) and 1659(2s) team rating.
03:53.14Arrowmasterdurcyn: he fucked up the LSM3 that you fixed
03:53.42durcynArrowmaster: eh?  he can have it.
03:53.47Arrowmasterand wow just wow
03:54.04Arrowmasteri want to svn del this because of how badly it uses ace3
03:54.08Gary13579Groktar: Grats :)
03:54.10Gary13579First kill?
03:54.11Arrowmasterits something nobody should ever see
03:54.17Arrowmasterits that fucking bad
03:54.42starlongood I need some ace3 examples.
03:54.56durcynwell, you have counterexamples now
03:54.59Arrowmasterwell dont fucking use anything writen by hshh
03:55.08starlonhaha
03:55.30Arrowmastertime to create a new wiki page "HOW NOT TO USE ACE3"
03:55.40Arrowmaster"see anything writen by hshh"
03:55.53Gary13579lol
03:56.39Groktar<PROTECTED>
03:57.05Gary135796'07''
03:57.10Gary13579lol yeah that was your imp DS :P
03:57.17Groktaryup yup
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03:57.40Groktarwe did the mocking blow bop trick
03:58.17Gary13579for the enrage?
03:58.49Groktarya
03:58.50starlonWhat's Gamj doing? Bad run?
03:58.57Groktarthat's just gamji
03:59.11Groktarit's actually his best ever without lotp
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04:03.19CIA-4003durcyn * r70829 10Cartographer/ (embeds.xml libs/): Cartographer: LibGuildPositions requires CallbackHandler. unf.
04:04.52CIA-4003phanx * r70830 10/branches/TooltipExchange/ (19 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed)
04:04.52CIA-40TooltipExchange (branch):
04:04.52CIA-40- Initial creation of branch version.
04:04.52CIA-40- Add heroic instance loot.
04:04.52CIA-40- Add Zul'Aman and Sunwell Plateau raid loot.
04:04.53CIA-40- Add feral attack power, expertise rating, armor penetration, haste rating, spell haste rating.
04:04.55CIA-40- Upgrade to LibPeriodicTable-3.1.
04:07.02vithoskadrahil: nice screenshot
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04:33.28Shirikhuh
04:33.33ShirikI know that hostmask
04:33.37Kaeltenits sag
04:33.37Shirikwhat did sag do?
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04:33.49Shirikprobably a stupid question :P
04:34.24Kaeltenya, well I don't want to get into it,
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04:34.32Shirik:) it's ok
04:34.42Kaeltenbut I've talked to him, and he's agreed to tone it down and act responsible
04:34.48Kaeltenif he can't then we'll revist the issue
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04:40.08sag_ich_nichthello.
04:40.55CIA-40037destiny * r70831 10CooldownCount/ (6 files):
04:40.55CIA-40CooldownCount:
04:40.55CIA-40- Fixed locale string, and koKR Update
04:43.03Kaeltenwelcome back :)
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04:49.25CIA-4003next96 * r70832 10CooldownCount/Locale.koKR.lua:
04:49.25CIA-40CooldownCount:
04:49.25CIA-40- Update locale koKR
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04:54.05Thezankeck: How goes it?
04:54.10Thezankeckknight_*
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05:00.22WobWorkhttp://www.thetorquereport.com/ford_shelby_gt500kr_kitt_1.jpg
05:00.48WobWorkThat's not KITT =(
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05:04.04ckknight_Thezanke: hey
05:04.24ckknight_Arrowmaster: what happens while in instances?
05:04.51SilverstormLocalization...if my editor can't correctly load the koKR file, is there anything special I should do to update the locale file for koKR?
05:05.19MentalPowererr... don't?
05:05.24MentalPowerget a better editor
05:05.28ckknight_get a better editor
05:05.29ckknight_bah
05:05.33ckknight_beat me, MP
05:05.34JaxonSilverstorm: get an editor that supports UTF
05:05.35sag_ich_nichtuse wordpad instead of notepad :P
05:05.41MentalPowerckknight_: :P
05:05.41JaxonI think Notepad++ does if you use windows or whatever
05:05.50Silverstormok, that's what I thought...thanks
05:05.53MentalPoweryes notepad++ supports UTF-8 perfectly
05:06.22Silverstormoh, lol...so does TextPad, if I go turn on support for *.lua files
05:07.55JaxonWhat was that addon that plots out quest paths based on your current log?
05:08.02hydrogenquest helper
05:08.06JaxonThanks.
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05:10.25CIA-4003Silverstorm * r70833 10StatBlocks_RangedStats/ (Locales/enUS.lua Locales/koKR.lua StatBlocks_RangedStats.lua): StatBlocks_RangedStats: Add option to choose delimiter. Any non-escaped text supported, plus newline by itself.
05:10.43Diaotextpad supports utf-8?
05:10.54Silverstormyou have to enable it for the specific file class
05:10.57dre^what's it called when you jack some else's /w by messaging them and getting focus? there has to be a name for this event...
05:11.20Silverstormbut it still doesn't display correctly, so i just used Wordpad to update the koKR file
05:11.37Shirikdre^: CHAT_MSG_WHISPER?
05:11.46Shirikor do you mean "mistell"?
05:11.52Shirik"event" in the human sense or the computer sense?
05:12.15sag_ich_nichti am so hungry
05:12.17dre^human
05:12.19sag_ich_nichtsend me food please :(
05:12.24Shirikmost call it a "mt" (mistell)
05:12.56dre^hmm, yeah I suppose so. I was hoping for something else more dramatic, but... yeah I guess I've said / heard "mistell" a hundred times.
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05:21.06CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70834 10CooldownCount/Locale.zhTW.lua:
05:21.06CIA-40CooldownCount:
05:21.06CIA-40- Update zhTW localization.
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05:28.02Arrowmasterckknight_: LGP is sending messages while in instances every 10 seconds
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05:34.26CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70836 10PlayerMenu/ (Locale.enUS.lua Locale.lua PlayerMenu.toc):
05:34.26CIA-40PlayerMenu:
05:34.27CIA-40- Rename Locale.lua -> Locale.enUS.lua
05:34.27CIA-40- Fixed locale string.
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05:36.15AnarchyAoHey guys, I just re-installed WoW and I was wondering if any of you know if Parrot is working properly now? I remember patch 2.4 breaking it.
05:37.02JaxonAnarchyAo: someone (not ckknight) has modified it, but last I heard, there were bugs and it needed a proper rewrite.
05:37.15durcynthere's a semifunctional version in trunk, but it's a bit, er, hackish
05:37.33AnarchyAoI see...so you'd reccomend that I go with scrolling combat text for now?
05:37.38AnarchyAorecommend*
05:37.48CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70837 10PlayerMenu/ (Locale.koKR.lua Locale.zhcn.lua Locale.zhtw.lua):
05:37.48CIA-40PlayerMenu:
05:37.48CIA-40- Update zhTW localization.
05:37.48CIA-40- Fixed locale string again.
05:38.25JaxonI use MSBT
05:38.41starlonI do miss Parrot
05:40.02NechcknYeah... MSBT is an ok substitute
05:41.16sag_ich_nichtparrot works fine
05:41.19sag_ich_nichtjust get the hack updates
05:41.42sag_ich_nichtAnarchyAo: just install parrot using WAU, it will work (mostly) fine
05:41.50sag_ich_nichtand it's not in trunk durcyn
05:42.21sag_ich_nichtckknight_ gave permission to commit the hacks to main so that's what's being done
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05:43.57CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70838 10PlayerMenu/ (4 files):
05:43.57CIA-40PlayerMenu:
05:43.57CIA-40- Tweak file name. (lowcase)
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05:45.50CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70839 10PlayerMenu/ (4 files):
05:45.50CIA-40PlayerMenu:
05:45.50CIA-40- Tweak file name (Uppercase)
05:45.50CIA-40- All locale file name tweak completed.
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05:51.26CIA-4003zhinjio * r70840 10/branches/SKG/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
05:51.26CIA-40SuicideKingsGeo :
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05:54.15ZhinjioSVN question ...
05:54.21ZhinjioI have my main working directory in branches
05:54.30Zhinjioand I pushed a release version to trunk a couple days
05:54.32Zhinjioago
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05:54.47Zhinjiohow do I "properly" put new fixes from branches into trunk?
05:54.53Zhinjio(using tortoise)
05:55.05Zhinjiois that a merge?
05:55.06WobWorkmerge
05:55.19Zhinjioso I merge ... uh, branches into trunk, right?
05:55.43WobWorkaye
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05:56.11WobWorkYou basically apply all changes from the beginning version of the branch to the head of the branch to the head of the trunk
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05:58.06CIA-4003Zimran * r70841 10zimGreed/License.txt:
05:58.06CIA-40zimGreed:
05:58.06CIA-40- Added license and disclaimer.
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06:04.17Zhinjiohmm, somehow I got conflicts. Going to try this again
06:04.41Primer!points 415
06:04.42Xinhuan415 arena points require 1561(5s), 1605(3s) and 1659(2s) team rating.
06:05.01WobWorkZhinjio: check out redbook for details on how to merge
06:07.05ZhinjioWobWork: thanks, I will..
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06:12.10AnarchyAoAnyone here use Auctioneer and know how to remove the "dropdown" menu on the right side of the screen? Send me a message if you do :)
06:12.31Nechckn./nsb off
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06:18.35kaelten_Nechckn: you use auctioneer? No WAY!
06:19.15ZhinjioWobWork: it doesn't look like a merge is changing externals. Do I have to do that separately?
06:19.16Nechcknkaelten_ figure the frikin' odds on that one, eh?
06:19.24kaelten_hehe
06:19.30CIA-4003Zimran * r70842 10zimCoords/zimCoords.toc:
06:19.30CIA-40zimCoords:
06:19.30CIA-40- Change the way version/revision is handled in the .toc file to make it easier to maintain consistency when uploading to mod sites.
06:19.35Nechcknthey make me, they make me!
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06:19.49kaelten_lol
06:19.55kaelten_you're own damn'd fault
06:20.01ZhinjioGood evening, Kaelten.
06:20.06kaelten_ello
06:20.07WobWorkZhinjio: You possibly have to merge the folders
06:20.20Zhinjiohmm.
06:20.35kaelten_gnight guys
06:20.43Nechckntake it iz
06:20.44ZhinjioI could also just hand change the externals on the trunk folder, though, right?
06:20.48Nechcknez, even
06:21.28sag_ich_nichtAnarchyAo: protip: /join #norganna
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06:23.13kaelten_sag_ich_nicht: Nechckn is staff with them ;)
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06:23.26sag_ich_nichtoic
06:23.43sag_ich_nichti'm still hungry.
06:23.44sag_ich_nichtsend me food.
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06:25.03silentiumsends sag_ich_nicht some [Gooey Spider Cake]
06:26.44Kaeltengnight guys
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06:26.57NechcknWoo... more Vs for Me!
06:29.02CIA-4003StiviS * r70843 10!BugGrabber/ (!BugGrabber.toc BugGrabber.lua): !BugGrabber: esES updated
06:29.36CIA-4003xbeeps * r70844 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua:
06:29.36CIA-40LibHealComm-3.0:
06:29.36CIA-40- Added Carrion Swarm (Anetheron - Mount Hyjal) healing debuff.
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06:29.55sag_ich_nichtgod
06:30.15sag_ich_nichti bet that commit is doin it rong
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06:32.29CIA-4003zhinjio * r70845 10SKG/:
06:32.29CIA-40SKG :
06:32.29CIA-40<PROTECTED>
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06:32.51Zhinjiothat can't possible have worked.
06:32.55Zhinjiopossibly
06:32.59Zhinjio*sigh*
06:33.01Fisker-just like your mother
06:33.59Paeneanyone know if SPELL_CAST_FAILED fires when a spell is interrupted?
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06:34.50starlonI doubt it since there's a UNIT_SPELLCAST_INTERRUPTED
06:35.19Groktarugh
06:35.27Groktari just took the archimonde healing staff for my priest
06:35.39Groktarand then i got whispers from one of our druids saying he wanted
06:35.40Groktar><
06:36.01starlonhe shoulda spoke up
06:36.02starlonimo
06:36.15starlonthis coming back after the fact does nothing but cause drama
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06:53.43Zhinjiosweet.
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07:01.53PaeneAnyone have advice on how to detect debuff refreshes?
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07:05.55durcynwatch for the cast event, and if it doesn't generate an aura, put it where you already have one
07:06.05durcynif there >1 existing auras, give up
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07:08.26durcyni.e. it's completely unreliable and hackish and you should petition blizzard to unfuck SPELL_AURA_APPLIED
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07:09.46ThraePaene: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15 <-- yes, this forum is checked
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07:13.27Thezankeckknight_, does the gitorius tell when there's an update?
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07:15.21Elkanothx, Thrae, reminds me that I wanted to test how inline icons affect GetextWidth
07:16.57ThraeElkano: Hmmm, excellent question. Thankfully, I never use that.
07:17.34ApocoAnyone here familiar with sink avail to answer a question?
07:18.45ThraeElkano: Since the icon added is processed server-side, it might be calculating based on the format string
07:19.10ThraeWait wait, I'm sure the icon is added pre-server
07:19.27ThraeBut the data sent would have to include some type of format string
07:19.29ElkanoThrae, I'm wondering because of that: http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=wowscrnshot_032708_10mf.jpg
07:20.04Elkanoand that would be 100% client side I think
07:21.20ThraeOh, right, tooltips, not chatframes
07:22.32Elkanoyeah, but I think they use GetTextWidth to adjust their own width
07:22.45ThraeElkano: That tooltip has the correct amount of space inbetween "Component in" and "Armorsmith (1)" I think, which all the other fields follow suit
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07:23.07ThraeI's using both Left and Right fields
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07:24.02Elkanowell, but there would be enough space to put "{icon} 1234" in one line
07:24.31ThraeOh, the icons and the #s are suppose to be on the same line?
07:24.34Elkanostill it wraps to a new line
07:25.48Elkanowell, the #s are the itemids if the name isn't cached
07:26.15Elkanoas you can see if the name consists of two words the first one will be behind the icon and the 2nd one wrapped
07:26.44Elkanoalso the chars don't align to baseline correctly behind the icons, but that's another bug I think
07:29.59Silviu-vhaarr ping ;)
07:30.21Fisker-Elkano
07:30.23Fisker-oh u :)
07:31.14ZhinjioGood evening, Elkano
07:31.21ElkanoFisker-, what's the reason for letting me dismount your mom? sure, it was cheap to mount her but it still was money...
07:32.21Fisker-your mother
07:32.46Elkanooh... did she forget her corner again? :/
07:33.08Fisker-yeah
07:33.35Elkanoand ho Zhinjio
07:35.22Paeneping Antiarc
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07:43.05CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70849 10RBM/RBM/ (7 files in 2 dirs): RBM: Added Support for LibSink-2.0. Added support for Shadow Colors on labels. Fixed error with other users getting debug messages. TOC Bump (lawl)
07:43.39CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70850 10RBM/RBM_Config/Config.lua: RBM_Config: Added support for shadow text on labels, added LibSink-2.0 Support.
07:44.20CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70851 10RBM/RBM_Sunwell/EredarTwins.lua: RBM_Sunwell: EredarTwins Dispel and SpellSteal announcing fixed. Tested and working as of commit.
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07:49.21CIA-4003orionshock * r70853 10GuildCraft/ (GuildCraft_Browser/BrowserUI.lua core.lua):
07:49.21CIA-40GuildCraft: Use GetSpellInfo in a few more places, Reduce cache table by a lot
07:49.21CIA-40by using less tables & just ID's and player names in one string. This is a DB
07:49.21CIA-40change and again will require you to set it back up again...sorry
07:50.10sag_ich_nichtmore macro slots. guildy is annoying me. addon name?
07:50.46durcynit's called "/reply sod off"
07:50.52Orionshockurg... i hate changing the db method...
07:52.40OrionshockApoco: RBM is nearly everyone needing to run the addon on only yourself?  ... is it a Synch addon or is it one that guesses off the combat log?
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07:58.25_ranequestion about http://pastie.caboo.se/184704
07:58.30ZhinjioNivFreak: ping
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07:58.42Zhinjiook, new beta release is up and posted. phew.
07:58.43_ranewhat 'types' are there besides "msg"
07:59.02_raneor where could i find them
08:00.12mitch0_rane: if you're talking about Ace3, check http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3
08:00.20_raneAce2
08:00.33mitch0hm. then convert to Ace3 :)
08:00.54mitch0but there's page for Ace2OptionsTable, too
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08:01.48mitch0http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table
08:01.57_ranei started out with ace3
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08:02.34_ranenot enough examples and stuff
08:02.36mitch0why did you go back to ace2?
08:02.48mitch0it's almost the same as ace2
08:03.05mitch0you could use most of the ace2 examples with little tweaks
08:05.34_ranei mean examples as in other addons
08:06.01phyberis there a replacement for Dewdrop-2.0 at all?  Something that doesn't require me to keep bits of Ace2 in an addon I'm upgrading.
08:06.13_ranei couldn't find any simple addons using ace3
08:06.28Fisker-holy shit
08:06.32Fisker-auctioneer is outta here
08:06.51phyber_rane: ManaPerc and BagSlots are really simple addons using Ace3.
08:06.53CIA-4003paene * r70854 10Cryolysis2/core/events.lua:
08:06.53CIA-40Cryolysis2:
08:06.53CIA-40- Readded polymorph breaking blame announcement
08:06.53CIA-40- Fixed polymorph bar not disappearing when polymorph breaks
08:06.53CIA-40- Fixed the ability to hide/show the timers
08:06.57ThraeFisker-: There's a replacement?
08:07.03Fisker-Vendor uses up like 1/30th of auctioneer while scanning
08:07.03Fisker-:D
08:07.23durcynphyber: hmm, LibDropdown and another whose name i've forgotten
08:07.24ThraeFisker-: Does Vendor have all the other features of Auctioneer?
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08:07.45Fisker-no
08:07.50Fisker-but all i need
08:07.55Fisker-http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/12327/
08:07.55ThraeAh
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08:08.05PaenePhyber: you can use practically the same options table with AceConfig
08:08.06Elkanophyber, depends on how much DewDrop you need; iirc there is sth in the client itself now
08:08.08ThraeWell, I like most of the other features of Auctioneer, especially BottomScanner
08:08.18Fisker-only thing i'm missing is a would be a better designed auction house
08:08.21Fisker-it has that Thrae
08:08.25durcyngrrrr, why isn't this stivis person on irc so I can hurt him
08:08.40KalrothYou can imagine that Fisker is stiv
08:08.53ThraeHmmmm
08:08.54phyberPaene: AceConfig can do a Dewdrop style menu?  (I don't need Dewdrop for config, it's for something else)
08:09.24Paeneoh
08:09.31mitch0phyber: not at the moment as far as I know. there's a stub AceConfigDropdown
08:09.37Paenenot sure, think someone said AceConfigD...yeah
08:09.43phyberhttp://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw3371.png
08:09.48phyberBasically, I just need it for this menu ;)
08:09.58ThraeWell I'm bereft to give up on the well-maintained Auctioneer for a new addon that's on Curse of all places...besides, I hate to sound like AL, but who really cares how much memory you're leaking if it's only during AH usage?
08:10.19Fisker-well it's not
08:10.22Fisker-also
08:10.24phyberold screenshot, i should put a better one on wowi.
08:10.25mitch0phyber: think it shouldn't be too hard to hand-code it with AceGUI
08:10.29Paenewhat does fubar use?  it's rock based isn't it?
08:10.40Fisker-the tooltips enhtooltip makes are horrible
08:11.02phyberPaene: That menu is coming from XPBarNone, not FuBar :)
08:11.08ThraeMust enhance irssi!
08:11.15phyberlooks at AceWibbleDropdown
08:11.17Fisker-For example when i went from Auctioneer my initial went from 39MB to 31,4MB
08:11.17Paeneright, but fubar uses a similar menu type
08:11.18mitch0thrae: /load tabkey ;)
08:11.24Fisker-from auctioneer to vendor
08:11.36Paeneand rock libs should work alongside Ace3 libs
08:11.39durcynPaene: fubar doesn't use force the use of anything.  most plugins use tablet (sometimes) for mousover, and dewdrop for dropdowns
08:11.54Thraemitch0: irssi script?
08:11.57durcynno, libs should be framework agnostic, damnit.
08:12.01mitch0yep
08:12.10Thraemitch0: Odd, don't see it in the main database
08:12.13durcynLFBP-3 requiring librockfoo is as bad as FBP2 requiring ace2
08:12.25durcynand by bad i mean bad
08:12.46mitch0thrae: I think it's originally an ircii script but I thought irsii is compatible?
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08:13.07Thraemitch0: What does it do?
08:13.22mitch0thrae: tab completion for prvimsgs
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08:13.43mitch0thrae: but there are loads of others.
08:13.50Thraemitch0: Yeah, irssi natively supports that
08:14.20mitch0or code your own ;) it's scriptable in tcl, right? :)
08:14.37durcynperl, usually
08:14.49Thraeirssi is perl, yes
08:15.06mitch0oh, then it's cake (compared to tcl at least)
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08:15.41mitch0(not that I'd want to spend any of my time writing irc scripts nowadays...)
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08:18.25ramozSo, i dont get it. Whjat does RBM do that BigWigs doesnt?
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08:19.24CIA-4003xinhuan * r70857 10HandyNotes_Vendors/Locales/koKR.lua: HandyNotes_Vendors: Fix koKR locale file from causing errors.
08:20.43CIA-4003scorpion * r70858 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
08:20.44CIA-40Cryolysis2:
08:20.44CIA-40- Updated zhTW localization
08:20.44CIA-40- Updated zhCN localization
08:22.11ThraeThere we go. Bound previous_window_item as well as next_window_item.
08:22.22ThraeThat'll make things much easier with like 20 channels in one window.
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08:22.59Nandinihas anyone given any though as to how esMX locale will be implemented?
08:23.00mitch0heh, I only have alt-1 and alt-2 :)
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08:24.23durcyngodddd why is that stupid translator bumping deprecated portions of outdated libraries
08:24.29durcynArrowmaster, help me kill him
08:24.42Nandiniperhaps he still uses an addon that needs those libs
08:25.05Fisker-grief tiems durcyn
08:25.06Fisker-GRIEF
08:25.14durcynFisker- it's you isn't it
08:25.18durcynyou're stivis, i know it
08:25.55Fisker-no!
08:26.04mitch0nah, stivis can speak at least 2 languages
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08:26.09Fisker-i'm just running around naked hitting on pets
08:26.18CIA-4003ammo 07RC1 * r70860 10Ace3/ (Ace3.lua AceConsole-3.0/AceConsole-3.0.lua):
08:26.18CIA-40Ace3 - AceConsole-3.0: nolonger check for existance of slashcommands, overwrite
08:26.18CIA-40where needed. Last one wins, this enables addonloader to X-LoadOn-Slash and
08:26.18CIA-40override the slashcommand from addonloader slashcommand with an ace3 one.
08:26.22ThiefMasterhi
08:26.23Nandiniare they receptive to your advances?
08:26.24Fisker-i can speak atleast 2 languages
08:26.30Fisker-some
08:26.37Fisker-and then guards pwn them and their masters
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08:27.06ThiefMasterwhen committing my addon to svn, do i need to use an embeds.xml for the ace addons or it is enough to have "## OptionalDeps: Ace" in the toc and svn:externals set for the libraries i use?
08:27.37JaxonThiefMaster: I'm almost certain embeds.xml is just used for addon-updater apps.
08:27.55Arrowmasterhmm i wonder if i should get mongoose on my new HWL blade for my 61 rogue
08:27.55durcynno, embeds.xml is for external loading.
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08:28.20CIA-4003StiviS * r70861 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Trainer: esES updated
08:28.46durcynonce upon a time back when the world was young, all libraries were dumped directly into the toc, then someone had the bright idea of externalizing libraries to save a minimal amount of load time (these are the same people who put yellow type R stickers on their hondas, but I digress)
08:28.46ThiefMasterwell currently i have only the .toc and the .lua in my addon's directory (http://www.planetcoding-server.net/misc/TierTooltip.zip)
08:28.56durcynanyway, calling things in the TOC directly isn't expensive, unless they don't exist
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08:29.35durcynat which point the amazing game client that blizzard has graced us with 1) opens a log file, 2) takes its time writing an error, 3) closes the log file, and 4) repeats, thusly making the action of externalizing libraries utterly pointless
08:29.55mitch0durcyn: updating each library each time it's embedded is not fun ;)
08:29.58durcynthe chosen solution was to move these library includes into an xml file that the toc would then reference, because xml include/script directives dont' end up in framexml.log
08:30.14durcynmitch0: i know, i've been there, but I'm telling a story here!
08:30.21mitch0okok ;)
08:30.37CIA-4003StiviS * r70862 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2/Babble-Vendor-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Vendor: esES updated
08:30.42mitch0watches as the story unfolds
08:30.56durcynanyway, the end result is that if your addon doesn't have every single lib it uses and every single dependency of every single lib it uses in both the externals and in the embeds.xml, then you are wrong and someone will cause you emotional harm, the end.
08:31.28mitch0unless of course you don't give a shit about other ppls opinion ;)
08:31.41mitch0or just wait for someone else to fix your "mistake" :)
08:31.52starlonand avoid irc
08:31.56durcynat which point someone will either ninja commit it or lament the crappiness of your code, depending.
08:31.56ramozdurcyn: can emotional harm lead to death?
08:32.01mitch0but its true that some of the guys here could be pricks at times
08:32.04durcynramoz: only in my dreams!
08:32.10ramozok
08:32.14CIA-4003StiviS * r70863 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Zone: esES updated
08:32.15ramozsad story then
08:32.17ThraeWhat about addons that are not designed for their externals to -be- external?
08:32.27durcynThrae: whoa, man, cognitive dissonance.
08:32.36durcynlibs without tocs, cats and dogs sleepin together!
08:32.54ThraeIE, not libraries, but modules within an addon.
08:33.11ThraeOr I should say, in example, not IE
08:33.14durcyner, those shouldn't be svn externals though
08:33.25mitch0<PROTECTED>
08:33.26ThraeThey would be if they can act standalone too.
08:33.31mitch0<PROTECTED>
08:33.34mitch0;)
08:33.41mitch0I should get some sleep...
08:33.53durcynit seems I've been out-pedanted, I yield.
08:34.08sag_ich_nichtXinhuan: you totally need to add additional weighting for watter in routes :P
08:34.10sag_ich_nicht*water
08:34.29Arrowmasteranything on wowace that uses svn:externals to point to other stuff on wowace should use embeds.xml and X-Embeds
08:34.30Xinhuantaboo it ;p
08:34.33sag_ich_nichti.e. consider routes inside of water to be n longer than they actually are :P
08:34.33ramozsag_ich_nicht: stop farming in azeroth!
08:34.41sag_ich_nichtXinhuan: i want to farm the stuff there tho :P
08:35.03sag_ich_nichtramoz: but i have to level my huntard!
08:35.23sag_ich_nicht(and yes, that char really IS a tard, it's in all greens >.>)
08:35.25ZhinjioXinhuan: G'morning.
08:35.35ramoza hunter can lvl itself - set pet to aggressive and assist it
08:35.43Xinhuanhahaha
08:35.53ThraeI'm only making the point because TinyTip version 2.broken uses that system, where instead of the modules being embedded, external modules override internal modules.
08:35.59JaxonThere are Outland mineral deposits in Zangarmash and Nagrand
08:36.11ThraeArrowmaster: That would make sense if all externals are embedded.
08:36.30durcynThrae: I still don't think svn:externals is an altogether appropriate method for LOD modules
08:36.32sag_ich_nichtramoz: i prefer kiting mobs 10 level above mine :P
08:36.43Xinhuanwould you like to send me taboo regions of every water body in every zone? :)
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08:37.12Thraedurcyn: They're only LoD if you check them out manually, or copy & paste the module directory.
08:38.05durcynThrae: yes, but do you really add them to the core as external instead of plain old subdirectories?
08:38.07Arrowmasteror if you have your addon updater set to use no-ext zips
08:39.01CIA-4003ThiefMaster * r70864 10TierTooltip/ (. Core.lua TierTooltip.toc embeds.xml):
08:39.01CIA-40TierTooltip: initial commit
08:39.01CIA-40- Displays which T4-6 set an item belongs to in its tooltip
08:39.08ArrowmasterThrae: btw /tinytip has been broken for quite some time
08:39.15SnagoXinhuan: Another idea.. A setting for each taboo region with a factor how much more expensive routes through that region should be. So you could set water little more expensive and hostile towns a lot more expensive
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08:39.44Xinhuani would consider that a bit "too much detail"
08:39.54sag_ich_nicht[10:36] <Xinhuan> would you like to send me taboo regions of every water body in every zone? :) <--D:
08:39.58durcynThiefMaster: congratulations by the way, on the seventh (eighth?) addon in trunk/ that shows item drop information
08:40.07sag_ich_nichtSnago: good idea
08:40.11Xinhuanthe ACO algrithm itself has about 10 tweakable parameters, none of which are exposed to the user and/or tweakable
08:40.11BrunersYour ticket has been escalated, is that a good thing?
08:40.14ThiefMasterit doesn't show where it drops, just which itemset it belongs to
08:40.19sag_ich_nichtBruners: mostly, yes
08:40.23ThiefMaster("Itemset: T4 (Def)" for example)
08:40.30sag_ich_nichtBruners: it means a senior GM is required to do whatever the hell you want
08:40.32durcynThiefMaster: PeriodicTable.  Mendeleev.
08:40.52ThraeSee, TinyTip v2 uses this modular mechanism. 1) All basic modules are available internally in the module core (TinyTip). 2) All modules can work standalone and decentralized, without needing the modular core. 3) All modules use no embeds. 4) All modules are LoD and centralized if the modular core is available. 5) If the module exists externally as an addon, the module code embedded in the core is not parsed.
08:41.01[Ammo]ThiefMaster: why on earth use a ton of libs for that?
08:41.11Xinhuanit means "i am a level 10 GM, what you want can only be done by a level 15 GM, so i'm queueing your ticket for level 15 GMs" :)
08:41.12Brunerssag_ich_nicht: ok, waited 4hours yesterday :S
08:41.13ThiefMasterhm i used acehook for the ontooltip hook
08:41.13[Ammo]check out TooltipItemInfo on svn :p
08:41.16phyberBruners: The Senior GMs are incharge of dismissing your ticket and not getting back to you, meaning you have to start a new ticket!
08:41.36ThraeArrowmaster: Yeah, I haven't had a chance to get at my dev setup recently
08:41.52CIA-4003zhinjio 07Locales * r70865 10SKG/ (7 files):
08:41.52CIA-40SuicideKingsGeo :
08:41.52CIA-40<PROTECTED>
08:42.01ArrowmasterThrae: and the options in the new interface seem broken too
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08:42.15ThiefMastermeh ok, i'll delete it again
08:42.29[Ammo]no need to delete it
08:42.29durcynyou don't have to delete it, just letting you know there's some overlap
08:42.32[Ammo]just fix it :)
08:42.35ThiefMasterk
08:42.36[Ammo]there is no overlap
08:42.44ThraeArrowmaster: Yeah, I read the issues/list
08:42.53[Ammo]just check the code in that addon to see how to do a simple thing like that without any libs
08:42.58durcynmultiple addons doing the same thing is what then, competition?
08:43.13Arrowmasteryes
08:43.21Arrowmasterlike OmniCC vs CooldownCount
08:43.27starlonlol
08:43.30Arrowmasterbut i wouldnt call that competition
08:43.50Arrowmastermore like 'WHO THE FUCK WOULD USE COOLDOWNCOUNT IF THEY KNOW ABUT OMNICC!'
08:43.52sag_ich_nichtcooldowncount caused taint last time i checked
08:43.55ThraeIt's only competition if one of the authors cares.
08:44.17Arrowmastercooldowncount is maintained by a retard
08:44.39starlonharsh
08:44.40Snagohehe, I agree Arrowmaster. Only advantage for CDC over OCC is it's on wowace for ez updates lul
08:44.47Brunerswill my ticket still be active now, after i have been logged out for several hours?
08:44.51Arrowmasterthat should be baned from the svn for making ace3 look bad
08:44.54[Ammo]which reminds me, bug to fix :)
08:44.57Brunersor do i have to make a new one
08:45.46CIA-4003ammo * r70866 10TooltipItemInfo/TooltipItemInfo.lua: TooltipItemInfo: don't attempt to show ilevel on spells, they have none
08:45.54starlonYou'll get an email about it more than likely.
08:46.00SnagoWhile OmniCC is a solid addon that has worked unchanged at least since 20100
08:46.31Snago(that's what my toc says, and it still works great)
08:46.43Arrowmasterits gotten updated though
08:46.46Arrowmasternothing major
08:47.27CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70867 10Hourglass/core.lua: kill bars correctly
08:47.36Arrowmasteri have it checked out from googlecode
08:50.42CIA-4003durcyn * r70868 10Omniscience/core.lua: Omniscience: reenable death/dispel/interrupt fade
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08:51.16Fisker-aaah
08:51.21Fisker-harassing alliance while naked
08:51.48Fisker-man this guy is stupid
08:51.54Fisker-third time i hit his pet and he got pwnt by guards
08:52.07Fisker-lol
08:52.13Fisker-now he bandaged his pet instead of himself
08:52.50ThraeFisker-: "who's the tank?" "you are
08:53.04CIA-4003kurax * r70869 10NextStep/NextStep.lua: NextStep: Add zhCN locale
08:53.30ThraeFisker-: "who's the tank?" "u r" "but I'm resto..." "u'll b fine, I'll heal u lik I heal my pet"
08:53.45Fisker-:o
08:53.57ThraeTrue story, apparently
08:54.16Fisker-LOL
08:54.16omegathat should work
08:54.20omegathey are bot animals
08:54.27omega(at least if its a druid)
08:54.30Fisker-some shaman just popped a earthbind totem as i was passing by
08:54.36Fisker-and guards aggroed him :D
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08:54.55Thrae"I report u because ur a Hunter with two pets, when one of them isn't even tamable?!?!?!" "Uhh, that's a Druid"
08:55.16JY`hunter should be able to tame druids
08:55.24Fisker-lol
08:55.32ThraeJY`: Maybe they'd become raid-viable that way! (both of them)
08:55.37Fisker-and he ressed, attacked me and got killed by guards again :D
08:55.39JY`there was a rumor pre-BC
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08:55.47JY`druids would have the comp "control animal"
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08:55.49starlonwould be cool if they could tame the druid in underbog
08:55.56JY`so they could MC animals
08:56.10JY`i wanted that :'(
08:56.11Thraestarlon: There are also Druids even in Wailing Caverns
08:56.30ThraeJY`: Probably slated for WotLK for Druids or Hunters
08:56.33starlonThrae: Never had a chance to go there.
08:56.37JY`do want
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08:57.27ThraeI think WotLK will include more water maps (being an icey region), so Druids will be getting Swift Aquatic Form, and probably Swift Travel Form
08:57.28JY`as a druid : "sleep one, root 2nd cyclone third, MC fith and tank last with the fith
08:57.54ThraeWait, Swift Travel Form might be bad for Arena...Swift Travel Form as a Feral talent
08:58.35ThiefMasterjust abolish arena :D
08:58.35JY`wtb flying mount in arena :>
08:58.38Brunersand swift cyclone
08:58.56JY`ooc rez :(
08:59.53Thrae3.0 - "Cyclone can now be instant-cast using Nature's Swiftness." "Resto Tree Build includes talent to reduce Nature's Swiftness cooldown by 0.5/1/2 minutes." ...WTF, where'd everyone go?!
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09:01.06sag_ich_nichtOH GOD FINALLY
09:01.08sag_ich_nichthttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/12295/
09:01.14sag_ich_nichtsomeone competent took over engbags
09:01.24ThiefMasterlocal origOnTooltipSetItem = GameTooltip:GetScript("OnTooltipSetItem");
09:01.24ThiefMasterGameTooltip:SetScript("OnTooltipSetItem", OnTooltipSetItemHook);
09:01.27ThiefMasteris that fine or will it break anything?
09:01.36ThiefMaster(yes, i call the orig function from the hook)
09:02.10ThraeThiefMaster: Yeah, that'll work fine. Look at TinyTipBasic for a simple hooking demonstration.
09:02.54[Ammo]or you could do hooksecurefunc( GameTooltip, "TooltipSetItem", function() ...... )
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09:03.14Fisker-who the fuck let you in again sag_ich_nicht?
09:03.15ThiefMasterah, i tried OnTooltipSetItem there and that didn't work
09:03.35Thrae[Ammo]: Usually not a good idea to use that unless you're doing secure hooks
09:03.38Zhinjio~seen kurax
09:03.40purlkurax <n=kurax@222.130.192.136> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 12h 52m 30s ago, saying: 'I see'.
09:04.06sag_ich_nichtFisker-: your mom
09:04.09[Ammo]Thrae: in the case of the gametooltip I have to I think
09:04.35Thrae[Ammo]: It's hard to taint GameTooltip.
09:04.40CIA-4003ThiefMaster * r70872 10TierTooltip/ (Core.lua TierTooltip.toc embeds.xml):
09:04.40CIA-40TierTooltip:
09:04.40CIA-40- Do not use unnecessary libs
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09:08.15CheadsThrae did the development of tinytip2 stop? =)
09:08.48ThraeCheads: For a few weeks, yes. Unfortunately my time has been limited recently.
09:08.58Cheadsok
09:09.07Cheadsthat's life
09:09.18sag_ich_nichtlmao Fisker-
09:09.20sag_ich_nicht<3
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09:15.03Zhinjiogiven localization concerns, what would be a good pattern to use for capitalizing the first letter of names? something like "(.)(.*)"??
09:15.24Zhinjioyikes. its a pair of boobs with an extra nipple.
09:15.28Zhinjioor a wart. or something.
09:15.45Zhinjioanyway.
09:15.57SnagoIt's breast cancer :(
09:18.05Snagolua> ("name"):gsub("(.)", string_upper, 1)
09:18.06lua_botSnago: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected)
09:18.13Snagolua> ("name"):gsub("(.)", string.upper, 1)
09:18.13lua_botSnago: Name, 1
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09:19.24Arrowmasterlua> ("word word word (word) word"):gsub("%f[%a](%a)", string.upper, 1)
09:19.24lua_botArrowmaster: Word word word (word) word, 1
09:19.28Arrowmasterlua> ("word word word (word) word"):gsub("%f[%a](%a)", string.upper)
09:19.29lua_botArrowmaster: Word Word Word (Word) Word, 5
09:20.22ZhinjioSnago: slick. I like that.
09:20.22Kalrothwerd!
09:20.29SnagoDon't matter much how you do it, but cut away the sick breast at least :P
09:20.36Zhinjioheh
09:20.37ZhinjioI agree
09:20.59ZhinjioI hope that doesn't break double-byte names
09:21.33Snago%f is still voodoo to me
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09:21.41Arrowmasteras long as they dont start with a non-ascii leter
09:21.49Arrowmasteralthough hmm that might
09:22.07Arrowmasterlua> ("word word woárd (word) word"):gsub("%f[%a](%a)", string.upper)
09:22.07lua_botArrowmaster: Word Word WoáRd (Word) Word, 6
09:22.11Arrowmastereep
09:22.26Snagolua> ("náme"):gsub("(.)", string.upper, 1)
09:22.26lua_botSnago: Náme, 1
09:22.36Snagolua> ("ñame"):gsub("(.)", string.upper, 1)
09:22.36lua_botSnago: ñame, 1
09:22.46Zhinjio"ok, good.
09:22.54Arrowmasterlua doesnt know unicode
09:23.07mitch0lue lives in the past
09:23.14mitch0lua even
09:23.18mitch0bleh
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09:23.45mitch0anyway, good luck implementing a unicode-aware toupper in lua :)
09:23.47Arrowmasterits one of the bigest drawbacks to lua
09:23.49SnagoI find that wierd since iirc it's developed by portugeese (sp?)
09:24.01CIA-4003StiviS * r70874 10ClosetGnome_Banker/Banker.lua: ClosetGnome_Banker: esES updated
09:24.12mitch0those guys are probably happy with iso-latin-1...
09:24.15Arrowmasterit uses the systems codepage
09:25.00Arrowmasterso if you sent it an extended ascii character instead of a utf8 one it would work
09:25.09Arrowmasterdepending on the system locale
09:25.27mitch0good luck writing some kanji as "extended character"
09:25.51Arrowmasteryeah CJK dont work that way
09:26.30Arrowmasterbut latin and cryllic languages do
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09:27.37sag_ich_nichthttp://www.idkwtf.com/videos/latest-videos/is-europe-a-country america at it's best
09:28.14mitch0without watching that: you can find stupid ppl everywhere unfortunately :(
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09:30.58mitch0http://luaforge.net/projects/sln/
09:31.04Fisker-Zeksie you here?
09:31.35CIA-4003StiviS * r70876 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: esES updated
09:31.53JY`sag_ich_nicht: 50% of americans think sun orbits around the earth
09:32.15Arrowmasteri highly doubt that
09:32.44JY`ok
09:32.45Arrowmasterunless your trying to skew the numbers taking pools mostly in certain states
09:32.46JY`18
09:32.49JY`http://digg.com/general_sciences/18_of_Americans_Think_Sun_Revovles_Around_Earth
09:33.00JY`it was a long time i saw an article about that
09:33.02mitch0hohum, that slnbase is a c extension :(
09:33.37Daemonalooks around for the nibbly rabbit.
09:33.42JY`50% was for another thing
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09:34.26mitch0yeah, like the probability of heads when flipping a coin? :)
09:34.33ArrowmasterZhinjio: theres a UTF8 lib somewhere
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09:35.42CIA-4003StiviS * r70877 10ClosetGnome_OhNoes/ClosetGnome_OhNoes.lua: ClosetGnome_OhNoes: esES updated
09:36.00mitch0stivi is on a working-spree ;)
09:37.31odtwhat does the helmncloak thing do
09:37.54odtif it hides helm/cloak based on a set, that would be kewl
09:38.21sag_ich_nichti don't like closetgnome
09:38.30sag_ich_nichtit causes "that goes not in that slot" errors when changing sets
09:38.47sag_ich_nichtwhich indicates bad coding
09:39.01odti thought it has something to do with how your trinket layout is planned
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09:39.21mitch0uhm, is this BS? http://osdir.com/ml/lang.lua.general/2002-11/msg00321.html
09:39.48mitch0sag: I've fixed that bug 2 years ago
09:40.13mitch0I thought it was merged in (or fixed in another way) by now?
09:41.05CIA-4003StiviS * r70879 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_ZoneLocale-esES.lua: ClosetGnome_Zone: esES updated
09:44.38Daemonabasically that error occurs when you have the same trinket in 2 different sets in different slots or so?
09:45.24mitch0I had that with MH+OH and 2H switches
09:46.33sag_ich_nicht[11:39] <mitch0> sag: I've fixed that bug 2 years ago <--last time i tried closetgnome out(~3 months ago or so) it still happened :P
09:47.30mitch0I'll check my working copy and ninja comit it if it's not commited yet ;)
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09:48.59CIA-4003phanx 07phanx * r70881 10TooltipExchange/ (Libs/ItemStorage-1.0/ItemStorage-1.0.lua Modules/UI.lua):
09:48.59CIA-40TooltipExchange (branch):
09:48.59CIA-40- Fix searching for bonus healing
09:48.59CIA-40- Add searching for health and mana regen
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09:51.34[SW]Dodgeg'morning all :D
09:51.43charonmitch0: UCS goes beyond 16 bit = 65k chars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Character_Set
09:52.34charoni don't know how many of the characters are actually standardized but there should be enough room ;)
09:53.54mitch0charon: yeah, that's what I remembered. that post was basically garbage
09:55.17ElkanoFor some reason, MailFu tells me whne someone sends me a mail ^^
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09:58.07sag_ich_nichtElkano: i noticed that as well
09:58.08sag_ich_nicht:>
09:58.23sag_ich_nichtlol server firing events
09:58.29mitch0ok, teh internet died
09:58.42Fisker-owld
09:58.54sag_ich_nichtElkano now keep quiet about it
09:59.03sag_ich_nichtor someone might get the idea of FIXING that
09:59.08sag_ich_nicht>.<
09:59.12mitch0I hate our IP guys :(
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10:00.54charoni love how in this office, something on the way to the internet (wlan APs or vpn concentrator perhaps) restarts shortly after 1700
10:01.03charonit's as if they didn't want you to work longer than that
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10:02.15Thraecharon: At my office, the servers restart at 00:00:00. That's also the same time I get off work, so I can't input my time until they come back up......
10:03.08mitch0still running windows 3.1 or somesuch? :)
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10:04.05Daemonareminds me of that spot i worked for once.... had some work time system based on winNT ... serial data cables through the whole building for like 10 card readers ...
10:04.17Daemonawas fun .... cause the didnt want to upgrade but the server died
10:04.28Daemonaevery tried to get vmware to recognize a 10port serial card?
10:04.48Daemonaand then make it work with a winNT in a container?
10:05.13sag_ich_nichtlol
10:05.23Daemonathats exactly what i thought...
10:06.05sag_ich_nichti'd have declared it impossible
10:06.09sag_ich_nichtand not bothered
10:06.46charon"if you look to your far left and stare really hard, you may be able to spot the fine line between normal and crazy"
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10:08.34sag_ich_nichtMIGHTß
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10:08.38sag_ich_nicht*might?
10:08.41sag_ich_nichti always see the damn thing
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10:15.18digmousesag_ich_nicht: ping
10:15.41digmouse~seen sag_ich_nicht
10:15.44purlsag_ich_nicht is currently on #wowuidev (5h 35m 49s) #wowace (5h 35m 49s). Has said a total of 229 messages. Is idling for 7m 3s, last said: 'i always see the damn thing'.
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10:16.42Hjalte~cartographer3
10:16.43purli guess cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
10:16.57HjalteI can never remember the download link on new computers :(
10:17.08sag_ich_nichtdigmouse huh
10:17.11sag_ich_nichtwho the hell are you
10:17.20digmouseNotSimpleCombatLog?
10:17.20sag_ich_nichto_O
10:17.23sag_ich_nichtoic
10:17.24sag_ich_nichtyeah hi
10:17.27digmouseO.o
10:17.32sag_ich_nichthow can i help you :P
10:17.32digmousetrying
10:17.34theoddone33git is interesting
10:17.38theoddone33I installed it tonight
10:17.40Fisker-The guy who invented running around naked pulling stuff onto others should be richly rewarded
10:17.49digmouselogin onto my enGB client
10:18.04Fisker-just like i installed your mother theoddone33 :D
10:18.20Thrae"I guess Cartographer3 is a huge-ass definition in purl that requires brievity."
10:18.38sag_ich_nichtdigmouse: you still have to configure bracketing, non-verbose, coloring etc. manually
10:18.47sag_ich_nichtit only changes the stuff you can't change in the combatlog settings
10:18.48digmouseI know that
10:19.06digmousejust found that
10:19.21digmouseswitching to zhCN and check out
10:20.19theoddone33git is nicer for just keeping a local repository around than svn is
10:20.34theoddone33not that this matters to most people
10:21.17durcyndscm is like fishing with dynamite
10:21.17Arrowmasterand it can actually merge
10:21.28Arrowmasterunlike svn.....
10:21.32Thraegit'r done!
10:21.39hasteand it's fast!
10:21.47theoddone33I keep typing 'get' though
10:21.57hasteI type gir at times
10:22.17charontheoddone33: alias g=git
10:23.19charonthe svn:eol-style enforcing is annoying though, means you can't use git-svn to add any files to a wowace project
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10:25.18digmousehmm, the short names changed to English, need localization work sag_ich_nicht?
10:25.57sag_ich_nichtdigmouse: yeah, would need some variable adding as well for that
10:26.07sag_ich_nichtatm it's hardcoded :P
10:26.24digmouseworks well :D
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10:27.27Fisker-hey sag_ich_nicht
10:27.32sag_ich_nichthey Fisker-
10:27.40Fisker-hey sag_ich_nicht
10:27.48sag_ich_nichthey Fisker-
10:27.50digmousewill look into that to make it look happier on me :D
10:27.56Fisker-DO IT sag_ich_nicht
10:27.57Fisker-DO IT
10:28.07CIA-4003StiviS * r70882 10XPerl/localization.esES.lua: XPerl: esES updated
10:28.10sag_ich_nichtmeh
10:28.16sag_ich_nichtin the meantime i'll fix a typo
10:28.29digmousebut can it save that damn filter?  
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10:28.56sag_ich_nichtdigmouse: nope, but you can use chatsettingsfix for that :P
10:29.04sag_ich_nicht(by Tekkub, google it :P)
10:29.12digmouseI use that
10:29.20Fisker-hey sag_ich_nicht
10:29.21Fisker-DO IT
10:29.22sag_ich_nichtalso remember to click "save" on the tab to the very right
10:29.27digmousebut seems still cant save combatlog filter
10:29.43digmousethe chat settings save perfectly
10:29.45sag_ich_nichtdigmouse: if you click "save" in the combat log settings to the very right
10:29.48sag_ich_nichtit saves the filters
10:29.55sag_ich_nichtif it still doesn't load the proper ones
10:29.59sag_ich_nichtswitch filters once
10:30.05sag_ich_nichtand it'll load the proper one
10:30.08digmouseah
10:30.14sag_ich_nichtit's a big buggy
10:30.20digmousea trick
10:30.24sag_ich_nichtyeah
10:30.38AneaLua question...  Can anyone tell me if it's possible to remove table-entries by key (assuming its a dictionary and not a normal array)? The table.remove seems only capable of removing by hard index numbers, not by index values, but on the other hand pairs() isn't able to provide those hard index values.
10:30.52sag_ich_nichtif you want to take the work off my shoulders and add all the variables for easy localisation, go ahead, otherwise it might take some time until i add it digmouse :P
10:31.10sag_ich_nichtwhich reminds me
10:31.13sag_ich_nichti wanted to fix a few typos
10:31.23SnagoAnea: t[key] = nil
10:31.32digmouseI'll try :D but dont took too much expectation, my coding skill is... uh
10:31.59Aneasnago: yes thought bout that, but that will still leave the key intact
10:32.07sag_ich_nichtjust don't commit it, gimme a patch :P
10:32.34NargiddleyAnea, it doesnt leave the key
10:32.38digmousetry myself first :D
10:32.54Aneanarg: mm.. interesting will look at it :) Thanks you two
10:33.17CIA-4003StiviS * r70883 10XPerl_Options/localization.esES.lua: XPerl_Options: esES updated
10:33.25digmouseand seems easy enough for my coding ability D{
10:33.30digmouse*:P
10:37.18mikmaTem: /me iz sad panda when looking at /mode * b :((((
10:38.19CIA-4003StiviS * r70884 10XPerl_RaidAdmin/localization.esES.lua: XPerl_RaidAdmin: esES updated
10:40.43CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70885 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.Locales.zhTW.lua WhoDrop.toc):
10:40.43CIA-40WhoDrop
10:40.43CIA-40- Added zhTW localization.
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10:41.06CIA-4003durcyn * r70886 10Omniscience/core.lua: Omniscience: fix UNIT_DIED handler, again.
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10:42.32digmousemy client collapsed at the new badge vendor
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10:43.56CIA-4003StiviS * r70887 10XPerl_RaidHelper/localization.esES.lua: XPerl_RaidHelper: esES updated
10:44.33digmouseomg so many people and so many hords
10:44.37digmouse*horde
10:44.50Daemonauuuh
10:44.52Daemonau lose
10:44.53Daemona;)
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10:45.18digmousecant click on her or the sentinels will bust me up
10:45.43digmousejust reached 100% 15mins ago
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10:46.49sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/imageboardView.php?id=733 <--what the hell someone explain this trend to me (possibly NSFW, if you boss or coworkers read text really quickly)
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10:47.26CIA-4003StiviS * r70888 10XPerl_RaidMonitor/Localization.esES.lua: XPerl_RaidMonitor: esES updated
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10:49.36Roblibobsag_ich_nicht: your mom got ze internet. just kiddin' :p
10:50.31Daemonareads http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACETWO-61 and wonders why you report that here...
10:50.44[Ammo]because some people lack brains
10:50.51Daemonadigmouse -> friendly hp bars
10:50.55Elkanoyou called, master?
10:51.07digmousesag_ich_nicht: can I change some strings to blank to make them look more familiar with the original SCL?
10:51.08Daemonafeeds Elkano some brains.
10:51.21sag_ich_nichtdigmouse: uh sure, what strings you mean?
10:51.26ElkanoBwrrraaaainnnnssss
10:51.39sag_ich_nichti'd rather have some people read ACETWO-68
10:51.45digmouse[Your][Steady Shot]hit[someone]1765
10:51.45sag_ich_nichtand also fix it :P
10:51.46Brunerssag_ich_nicht: lol
10:51.53digmouseremove that
10:51.55digmousehit
10:52.00sag_ich_nichtoic
10:52.19sag_ich_nichtactually i'll empty that one when i'm done fixing the typos right now
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10:52.30digmousemake it [Your][Steady Shot][someone]1765
10:52.54digmouseright, I'll implement the locale first and see what happens :D
10:53.41Daemonayeah and replace [steady shot] with a spell link *crunches on some performance*
10:53.46Daemonagiggles insanely.
10:53.55digmouseseems not easy to rezz SCL
10:53.58digmouselol
10:54.11sag_ich_nichtDaemona: uh no.
10:54.25Daemonadid i sound reasonable?
10:54.38Daemonathere was a time when the blizz combat log did that on ptr...
10:54.45Daemonayou could link any ability from the combat log ...
10:55.01Daemonaguess it killed performance ^^
10:55.17CIA-4003rabbit * r70889 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Fixed turning throttling on/off.
10:55.18CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70890 10Hourglass/core.lua: re-disable RegisterTimeLeftTrigger again, LibBars still hates us.
10:55.54digmouseeven now you can click on a player's name to see sth. if he's around you
10:56.17Daemonahands the rabbit a carrot.
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10:56.53Daemonaand now fix this one -> http://jira.wowace.com/browse/DUMMY-3
10:57.43sag_ich_nichtthis is actually comming from buggrabber :P
10:58.20vhaarrI'm not sure that guy knows what he's talking about.
10:59.44vhaarrbut guess I can just remove that print
11:00.13sag_ich_nichtdigmouse: i'm afraid i can't remove stuff like this right now:
11:00.13sag_ich_nicht04/22/08 13:00:03> [Winter Wolf] [melee] miss [You]. (block)
11:00.33sag_ich_nichtuntil i figure out where that "miss" is coming from :P
11:00.44sag_ich_nichtno actually
11:00.44sag_ich_nichti can
11:00.45sag_ich_nichtnvm
11:01.53digmousethink no need to remove miss
11:02.01sag_ich_nichtimho there is
11:02.02digmouseremove hit is enough most times
11:02.06sag_ich_nichtit not an actually "miss"
11:02.15sag_ich_nichtit's just the fact that your action didn't land
11:02.20digmousebased on the event
11:02.21digmouseright
11:02.23sag_ich_nichtwhich you can tell from the fact that there is no dmg anyway
11:02.24CIA-4003rabbit * r70891 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Only notify the user that the slash command was created if noone has registered for handling the events.
11:02.32sag_ich_nichtand from the bracket
11:02.34digmouseACTION_SPELL_MISSED_MISS
11:02.53sag_ich_nichtyupp
11:02.54sag_ich_nichtand similar
11:03.23digmouseand for myself no need to remove "miss"
11:03.33digmouseand seems cant
11:03.38sag_ich_nichti'm removing it from the SVN copy anyway
11:04.10digmouseI'll do the locales first and tell you what I got
11:07.54CIA-4003StiviS * r70893 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua:
11:07.54CIA-40Cartographer_Fishing:
11:07.54CIA-40- esES updated
11:07.55CIA-4003sag_ich_nicht * r70892 10NotSimpleCombatLog/nscl.lua:
11:07.55CIA-40NotSimpleCombatLog:
11:07.55CIA-40- Fixed a few typos (e.g. The auto attack "spell")
11:07.57CIA-40- Killed "hit" and "miss", they aren't needed and this is closer to SCL
11:08.12Lukian21:06:11 Musca feeds Putih a <Musca:2699Musca feeds Putih a |Hitem>. Yum!
11:08.14LukianChatter fails :D
11:08.48sag_ich_nichtthere digmouse :P
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11:08.55digmouseI see it
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11:09.14Daemonahmmm retinal laser beamer - projecting 800x600 directly on your retina sounds fun .... until it stays too long on one pixel -.-
11:09.34sag_ich_nichtthat's fail anyway
11:09.47Daemonaand i doubt i would trust brother there ... their laser printers already suck :X
11:10.02AtriaceHow do you test for if a global is a frame or not?
11:10.11sag_ich_nichtgimme that thing in UHDV and we have a deal Daemona :P
11:10.30Daemonaread http://heise.de/newsticker ;)
11:10.49sag_ich_nichtas i said
11:10.56sag_ich_nichtgimme that thing in UHDV resolution
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11:10.59sag_ich_nichtand i might just buy it
11:11.04Daemonabut i rather dont point a laser at my eyes ;)
11:11.05Brunerssag_ich_nicht: fynny thing is that its Canada and US that searches for stuff like that most :P
11:11.45Daemonai already have to wear glasses cause i am short-sighted... too much reading in the dark in the bed when i was a kid...
11:11.48LukianArrowmaster, that's feed-o-matic btw
11:11.48sag_ich_nichtawww
11:11.51sag_ich_nichtFisker- look
11:12.02sag_ich_nichtwe made Mikk leave :(
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11:12.28sag_ich_nicht(i don't even know why, but whatever)
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11:12.47KalrothUhm, he wrote it in the part message?
11:12.51KalrothYou talk too much.
11:13.05sag_ich_nichtthis is IRC
11:13.21CIA-4003StiviS * r70894 10Cartographer_HeatMap/HeatMap.lua: Cartographer_HeatMap: esES added
11:13.36sag_ich_nichtgo to the IRS if you want silence, or start your own conversation instead of complaining that other people have one, imho
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11:14.12SnagoWell, he did leave. That solved his problem too
11:14.16ScoTTiehmm my quartz just lost half its textures
11:15.28digmousesag_ich_nicht: :(
11:15.52sag_ich_nichtjust edit your local copy if you want miss back :P
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11:16.12StanzillaScoTTie: install SharedMedia
11:16.15CIA-4003StiviS * r70895 10FuBar_VolumeFu/VolumeFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_VolumeFu: esES updated
11:16.31Snagowow, a HeatMap update!
11:16.33sag_ich_nichtalso, it'd probably be easier if i just make a local detection and just redirect to a different file if you have a different local
11:16.37sag_ich_nichtwith all the variables copied
11:16.47ScoTTiethanks, ill give that a go
11:16.49sag_ich_nichtactually i'll write taht right now :P
11:17.02sag_ich_nichtdigmouse don't bother adding variables, i'll do it in a different way
11:17.10CIA-4003Zimran * r70896 10zimCoords/License.txt:
11:17.10CIA-40zimCoords:
11:17.10CIA-40- Added license and disclaimer.
11:17.23digmouseI did add anything, still trouble in localization
11:17.34digmouse*didnt
11:17.36CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70897 10Hourglass/core.lua: flesh out the config table a bit
11:18.02CIA-4003Devfool * r70898 10Chatter/Localization/frFR.lua:
11:18.02CIA-40Chatter :
11:18.02CIA-40- Update locale frFR
11:18.07sag_ich_nichtdigmouse just go ahead and localize the variables, i'll go and split the addon a bit and add a locale detection
11:18.27digmousedone yet, testing all variables
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11:19.12CIA-4003StiviS * r70899 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: esES updated
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11:24.25digmouseworks fine, deviding the tags to Locale-zhCN.lua
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11:31.42ramozStivis is on a roll
11:32.17mitch0let's hope he's not just a clever babelfish script ;)
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11:36.05sag_ich_nichttestin my localization code now digmouse, if it works i'll commit and you can build your translation file from it :P
11:36.47dinner|digmouse:D I'll look into it if my dinner works fast
11:37.53sag_ich_nichtmeh
11:37.55sag_ich_nichtdoesn't work
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11:40.36CIA-4003jncl * r70901 10Skinner/ (AddonSkins/Chatter.lua Skinner.lua UIElements1.lua):
11:40.36CIA-40Skinner: Updated Chatter skin
11:40.36CIA-40- Bugfix for CombatLog ChatFrame
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11:47.44ScoTTieStanzilla: its installed, not showing the textures though :\
11:48.15StanzillaScoTTie: do you have LibSharedMedia-3.0 installed, too?
11:49.09durcynScoTTie: the half that are missing, from whence were they?
11:49.41sag_ich_nichti'm too lazy to read PIL, how do i call a function in a different file of the addon? :P
11:50.14JoshBorkesag_ich_nicht: you just call it
11:50.21JoshBorkesag_ich_nicht: you call a reference to it
11:50.41sag_ich_nichtreference? :>
11:50.49JoshBorkeyes
11:50.59JoshBorkeif all of your functions are global then you just call the function
11:51.04durcynsag_ich_nicht: what namespace did you define the function in?
11:51.07JoshBorkeif it's local to the file you have to provide a reference to it
11:51.33sag_ich_nichtthe thing is, it's a global function, so i should be able to call it
11:51.34sag_ich_nichtbut
11:51.44sag_ich_nichtnscl.lua:163: attempt to call global 'nscl_enUS' (a nil value)
11:51.46sag_ich_nicht:P
11:51.55JoshBorkeare you calling it before the file is loaded?
11:52.04sag_ich_nichtmhm
11:52.08sag_ich_nichtthat might be
11:52.18sag_ich_nichtgod i hate you now i have to add an onevent frame
11:52.24JoshBorkewhy?
11:52.31JoshBorkejust reorder the file listing in the toc
11:52.37sag_ich_nichtmeh or that :P
11:52.48JoshBorkedoing stuff on load is in poor taste imo
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11:53.48ThiefMasterhm anyone knows if there is a newer/better addon than chronometer?
11:54.15ScoTTieStanzilla: yeah, nothing has changed. i ran the java updater and they just disappeared
11:54.29ScoTTieall the sharedmedia's listed are installed
11:56.03sag_ich_nichtthere we go
11:57.14durcynScoTTie: again, the media you're missing, was it from somewhere specific, i.e. an addon that registers a bunch of stuff in a specific library version, or an outdated SharedMedia MyMedia.lua?
11:58.53CIA-4003sag_ich_nicht * r70902 10NotSimpleCombatLog/ (NotSimpleCombatLog.toc enUS.lua nscl.lua zhCN.lua):
11:58.53CIA-40NotSimpleCombatLog:
11:58.53CIA-40- Added localization code
11:58.54CIA-40- Added dummy zhCN localization file so you have an example how to add localizations
12:00.16sag_ich_nichtdinner|digmouse: feel free to commit your translation if you have an SVN account, otherwise send me your zhCN.lua and i'll commit it for you
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12:01.35durcynsag_ich_nicht: you're creating a function for every locale file?  eek.
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12:02.21sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: QQ
12:02.22sag_ich_nichti'm lazy
12:02.31sag_ich_nichtfeel free to commit a better way :P
12:02.36Viper_0000what'd you guys say is the best cooldowntimer performance wise
12:02.45CIA-4003StiviS * r70903 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_LocationFu: esES updated
12:02.50sag_ich_nichtif it breaks or i don't understand it, i'll hurt you tho :P
12:02.53durcynso build a table based on _G.GAME_LOCALE
12:03.05sag_ich_nichtmhm
12:03.09sag_ich_nichttoo lazy to deal with tables
12:03.54sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: that function gets called ONCE on login
12:04.07sag_ich_nichtactually, the whole damn addon just runs once on login, and never after that
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12:04.20durcynor ffs, use one global function, then at the top of the locale file, if GAME_LOCAL == "enUS" then foo
12:04.37sag_ich_nichtmhm
12:04.42durcynno, you've got a function sitting in the global namespace using memory for every single locale, regardless of whether you're in that locale
12:04.43ScoTTieit was the BantoBar texture, and it seems to only be Quartz that doesnt list it as an option.
12:04.52sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: you do it :P
12:04.55ScoTTiewith BigWigs i can still select it
12:05.15Viper_0000quartz has bantobar
12:05.20Viper_0000i used to have everything banto
12:05.28Viper_0000but i switched to everything minimalist
12:06.12sag_ich_nichtgo ahead and commit a better way to do it, i'm lazy and have 4GB of RAM :P
12:06.13durcynScoTTie: I recommend you install SharedMedia, since Quartz and BW no longer use the same LSM version
12:06.28dinner|digmousehmmm, devide the tags into a separated locale file and that dont work
12:06.44ScoTTieis that: SharedMediaLib ?
12:07.09ScoTTiei've got SharedMediaLib, LibSharedMedia-2.0 & LibSharedMedia-3.0 installed.
12:07.13digmouseach, didnt see what CIA told me, looking into that
12:07.14CIA-4003StiviS * r70904 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (FuBar_GarbageFu.toc GarbageFuLocale-esES.lua): FuBar_GarbageFu: esES added
12:07.23Viper_0000i dont even know and i dont think anyone here knows, cause i asked that the other day
12:07.36Viper_0000there's like 10 different recently updated sharedmedia's on files.wowace.com
12:07.48sag_ich_nichtdigmouse: if durcyn changes it midwork, don't blame me :P
12:08.01Viper_0000i use one that's just called SharedMedia in the interface/addons folder
12:08.29durcyni'm not committing bugger-all, it's your mess
12:08.39digmousesag_ich_nicht: I'll do the locales first and then decide whether to blame :D
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12:09.11sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: then you will have to live with the annoyance of having an sub-optimally working addon on the SVN :P
12:09.26sag_ich_nicht*a
12:09.38durcynShot: no, those are the libraries, you need things to register media with it.
12:09.40durcyner ScoTTie
12:10.01durcynsag_ich_nicht: you should rewrite NSCL to use !AlarLib.
12:10.46sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: NEVER
12:11.47ScoTTieok installed it, what changed in the last few days? it was working fine.
12:12.06sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: i'm lazy, not stupid
12:12.27CIA-4003StiviS * r70905 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/ (FuBar_FuzzyClockFu.toc FuzzyClockFuLocale-esES.lua): FuBar_FuzzyClockFu: esES added
12:13.26digmousenah guys
12:14.01digmousejust a combatlog enhancement, not a fully revamped SCL, we should be happy if it does what it can and what we want
12:14.03durcynScoTTie: Quartz is using a new version of LibSharedMedia is all
12:14.21sag_ich_nichtdigmouse i think you missed out a joke there :P
12:14.23Viper_0000so which cooldown bars do you guys think is best >.< there's like 10 that do the same thing, isn't as clearcut as bartenders > bongos
12:14.37sag_ich_nichtdigmouse and the way i am doing the localizations is sub-optimal at best
12:14.49sag_ich_nichtbut atm i'm too tired and too lazy to do anything better :P
12:14.52CIA-4003StiviS * r70906 10FuBar_FactionsFu/Locales/FuBar_FactionsFu.esES.lua:
12:14.52CIA-40FuBar_FactionsFu
12:14.52CIA-40- esES updated
12:14.59digmouseO.o
12:15.12durcynsag_ich_nicht: fine, but i'm not even going to test it
12:15.37sag_ich_nichti already tested it, it works fine :P
12:15.46sag_ich_nichtit just eats a bit of static memory
12:15.47sag_ich_nicht:P
12:15.49durcynno, no, cleaning up after you
12:15.56sag_ich_nichtoic
12:16.09sag_ich_nichtwell thanks then :O
12:16.44CIA-4003StiviS * r70907 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-esES.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: esES updated
12:16.52durcynoh, fuck it, i didn't check it out from dev.  good thing i don't use this silly thing.
12:17.23durcynyou're a bad man, sag_ich_nicht.
12:17.24digmouseO.o I'm in a joke?
12:17.36sag_ich_nichtdigmouse nvm
12:17.41sag_ich_nichtdurcyn: i know
12:17.51sag_ich_nicht(it's gonna bug durcyn all day long)
12:18.06digmouseor was it that I'm not humorous enough O.o
12:18.11sag_ich_nichtno
12:18.14durcyni'm going to take a nap now and have nightmares about your insidious global namespace pollution
12:18.22Viper_0000anyone wunna rate my UI >.<
12:18.24Viper_0000http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2888/wow2008042123482401re8.jpg
12:18.40syerenFunkeh`!
12:18.47syerenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12899.0
12:19.27syerenViper_0000, tell Orakle she is the best looking Shaman ever.
12:19.53digmouseMagtheridon O.o
12:19.59Viper_0000im in class right now bored out of my mind lol
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12:20.43durcynViper_0000: well, that bar of crap across the bottom is so 2006, and you're a frost mage for some reason
12:21.05nodulus77Hii
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12:22.03sag_ich_nichtgod
12:22.15sag_ich_nichti'll kill the x-perl translator
12:22.17sag_ich_nichtZeksie are you there?
12:22.34Fisker-you mean stivis? :D
12:22.49sag_ich_nichtyes
12:22.57sag_ich_nichtgah
12:23.00sag_ich_nichti'll fix that commit
12:23.02sag_ich_nicht-.-
12:23.51digmouseand I found NSCL would fix a silly translation in combatlog :D
12:24.06sag_ich_nichtoh, is that so? :P
12:24.36sag_ich_nichtmeh
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12:24.42sag_ich_nichtcba to checkout xperl now
12:24.46sag_ich_nichtsomeone fix it it's only one char
12:24.58nodulus77I have al little question on Omen, I try to add some sounds to Omen. so i put some wav or ogg files to "World of Warcraft\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Omen\Media\Sounds" ... an changed the media.lua but they cant be played. ICan anybody help me with that?
12:25.06durcynsag_ich_nicht: i'll fix it if you fix nscl =P
12:25.20digmouseya, if use short mode, and kill sth, combatlog will show "±»É±" which means "killed" not "kill", really annoying
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12:26.12durcynnodulus77: Omen uses LibSharedMedia, just register your files with the library instead of futzing with omen specifically.  for an example, look at SharedMedia
12:26.30sag_ich_nichtdurcyn too lazy :P
12:26.37durcynsag_ich_nicht: fie!
12:27.12Fisker-YOUR MOTHERS
12:28.15Fisker-i has brainfreeze :(
12:28.20Viper_0000dont worry
12:28.24Fisker-it hurts :(
12:28.27Viper_0000i raid 2/48/11
12:28.34Viper_0000but i like to go 0/0/61 frost for fun
12:28.43Viper_0000i have the gear to back it up >.<
12:28.50Viper_00001200+ spell dmg and hit capped
12:28.54ChompersFisker-: you need a brain for that
12:28.55Chompersyou liar
12:29.22CIA-4003workinghard * r70908 10RaidMobMarker/RaidMobMarker.lua:
12:29.22CIA-40RaidMobMarker:
12:29.22CIA-40- small bugfix
12:29.23digmouseI'm just a 2200AP hunter and no guild no raids :D
12:30.48Viper_0000not gunna lie my little console on the bottom isn't so sexy
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12:31.02Viper_0000when i start playing 1920x1200
12:31.05Viper_0000it'll look more sexy
12:31.12Viper_0000cause it'll be the same sinze
12:31.57Viper_0000and ill be able to move party/player frames to the bottom cornors of the screen on the side of the console
12:31.57CIA-4003durcyn * r70909 10XPerl/localization.esES.lua: XPerl: 'round these parts, we terminate our ifs with ends, not squiggly brackets.
12:32.18Gary13579lol
12:32.24sag_ich_nichtlol ^^
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12:32.43Gary13579sounds like quite the mistake ^^
12:32.45Ordog:D
12:32.53Ordoglua what? ^^
12:33.23durcynjust a minor syntax goof, i'm sure i've done worse
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12:33.56durcynwish he'd get on irc so i can berate him for bumping babble spell though
12:35.20SnagoWell, adding translations to it is fine imho, as long as they don't touch the interface #
12:35.30digmousemainly asian translators bumping Babble Spell over and over
12:35.51durcynno, spells and tradeskills are 100% deprecated in 2.4
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12:36.01durcynit should be svn del'd, not updated
12:36.39digmouseya , but still some asian translators bumping
12:36.59SnagoYes, but it's better the translators update Babble than the addons that break because of missing translations
12:37.58nodulus77durcyn: Hi, I am sorry, but i don't know how to register sounds in shared media. I tryed the quick and dirty way.I added media:Register("sound", "Aoogah2!", [[Interface\AddOns\Omen\Media\Sounds\aoogah2.ogg]]) to media.lua and placed a File similar to aoogah.ogg in this directory
12:37.58Taskyhm
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12:38.11Taskyi'm almost tempted to start picking up lua to script for this
12:38.57durcynnodulus77: putting the register in Omen directly is hackish, but should work.  however, I don't believe PlaySoundFile handles ogg vorbis
12:39.52durcynoh, perhaps it does
12:40.08nodulus77durcyn: well in media lua i found the line media:Register("sound", "Aoogah!", [[Interface\AddOns\Omen\Media\Sounds\aoogah.ogg]]) which plays the aoogah.ogg
12:40.22nodulus77but my file isnt played
12:40.25durcynyeah, just noticed that, and here I thought it was just PCM/MP3.
12:40.45Hobbyanyone remember an addon name that adds the focus frame to the default UI?
12:40.52ThiefMasterxperl
12:40.52sag_ich_nichtcorrect
12:40.56sag_ich_nichtogg does not work
12:41.01durcynHobby: Hadar, if you want one styled after the default frames
12:41.01Hobbyno, not a full replacement
12:41.02ThiefMasterah nvm, didn't see the "default"
12:41.06sag_ich_nichtlast time i checked anyway
12:41.10ThiefMasteranyway, xperl > default ui
12:41.12Hobbyit only adds that one frame, can't remember the name
12:41.20durcynHobby: HadarFocusFrame on wowi
12:41.21HobbyI use PitBull, but this isn't for me :)
12:41.52Hobbytrying to teach people to use focus macros to make CC much easier, but some have bare bones in terms of addons
12:42.19durcynhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6541-HadarsFocusFrame.html
12:42.29Viper_0000i sheep all day baby
12:43.03Hobbydurcyn: ty
12:43.14durcynshould be the same widgets as blizzard player/etc frames, unless he decided to get fancy in the past year
12:43.27digmousesag_ich_nicht: dont work :(
12:43.35durcynnodulus77: try running your file through PlaySoundFile() and see what you get
12:44.02nodulus77durcyn: hmmm I encoded the sound using audacity .. i opened the aoogah.ogg whis is shipped with omen and saved it as aoogah2.ogg registered in media.lua ... and it cant be played anymore
12:44.10durcynnodulus77: in game, /script PlaySoundFile("Interface\AddOns\Omen\Media\Sounds\aoogah2.ogg"), assuming you're relaunched the client since adding it
12:44.33durcynyou are exiting the client completely before adding new files to your Interface directory, yes?
12:44.36nodulus77ok iI'll try that
12:44.58nodulus77yes I do a complete restart
12:44.58durcynor at least before trying to reference them in-game
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12:45.26nodulus77il be bach after i tryed /script PlaySoundFile("Interface\AddOns\Omen\Media\Sounds\aoogah2.ogg")
12:45.31nodulus77back
12:46.00TaskyWell, whoever was helping me with Omen's "INVALID MEMOIZATION" error, it happened again: http://ace.pastey.net/86235
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12:48.18Fisker-lol idiots sag_ich_nicht
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12:48.56Fisker-a multiboxer just killed himself twice because i did a /chicken
12:49.11Fisker-i was taunting him within a guarded area
12:49.22Fisker-then he started to cast chain lightning
12:49.31nodulus77durcyn: The sound can be played /script PlaySound...
12:49.31Fisker-i shielded he got killed by guards
12:49.38Fisker-then all of his shamans ankhed and killed me
12:49.42Fisker-and he got killed again :D
12:49.56CIA-4003phyber * r70910 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (3 files):
12:49.56CIA-40FuBar_TopScoreFu:
12:49.56CIA-40- Remove a few unused strings.
12:50.03nodulus77durcyn and the rest works fine. It can be played by Omen.
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12:51.03nodulus77Maye because i rebootet my Windows client
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12:52.16nodulus77durcyn: thanks for your help
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12:54.44digmousesag_ich_nicht: ping
12:55.22sag_ich_nichtyo
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12:55.48digmousedont remove hit
12:56.00sag_ich_nichtwhy
12:56.26digmouseat least cant do that on zhCN, if that's removed, I got |Haction:SWING_DAMAGE in combatlog
12:56.31phyberin COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, are all of the parameters considered strings?  I have 'tonumber(string_sub(guid, 6, 12), 16)' to work out the NPCID of a mob, but if the destGUID is already a "number", I don't think this won't work.
12:56.34CIA-4003StiviS * r70911 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua: AutoBar : esES updated
12:56.34sag_ich_nichtoic
12:56.37sag_ich_nichti see what's happening
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12:56.48sag_ich_nichtyeah i'm seeing it too
12:56.54sag_ich_nichti'll fix it with a special unicode cahrt
12:56.54digmousewhich should be nothing or by default "hit"
12:56.55sag_ich_nicht*char
12:57.03digmouseya
13:00.55CIA-4003sag_ich_nicht * r70912 10NotSimpleCombatLog/ (enUS.lua zhCN.lua):
13:00.55CIA-40NotSimpleCombatLog:
13:00.55CIA-40- Hopefully worked around a blizzard bug, apparently emptying some combat log variables causes internal strings to show up
13:01.15vhaarrhaste: thanks for the :RegisterInitCallback addition, I couldn't apply the fix until now as my net has been down
13:01.32vhaarrhaste: "It's better than the metatable solution vhaarr made you all use", I didn't force anyones hand :P
13:01.35hastevhaarr: you weren't on IRC for like days, so I didn't commit it either :p
13:01.50hasteno, but they use what they can as an example :p
13:01.54vhaarrhehe
13:01.55hastewithout thinking far
13:02.06vhaarryeah I know I should have hooked any existing metatables
13:02.17vhaarrbut when I made oUF_Banzai there weren't really any other plugins like that availabe
13:02.19vhaarravailable
13:03.19vhaarrhaste: have you considered making some site with a layout repository?
13:03.25sag_ich_nicht mhm
13:03.30sag_ich_nichtapparently that fix is still broken
13:03.41hastevhaarr: been thinking about it, but it stops there
13:03.44vhaarrright
13:04.04hastehave some other stuff I need to write before that :(
13:04.21sag_ich_nichti shouldn't be coding while doing dailies
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13:06.25phybertakes a look at this new TotallyComplicatedCombatLog
13:07.00digmouseeverything in my combatlog disappeared O.o
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13:07.19CIA-4003sag_ich_nicht * r70913 10NotSimpleCombatLog/ (enUS.lua zhCN.lua):
13:07.19CIA-40NotSimpleCombatLog:
13:07.19CIA-40- Apparently I shouldn't be coding while doing my dailies.
13:07.47digmouseO.o I was testin them in Quel'Danas
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13:12.29CIA-4003Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate * r70914 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFuLocals.frFR.lua:
13:12.29CIA-40FuBar_FriendsFu:
13:12.29CIA-40-Added frFR new 2.4 gender based class names
13:14.11vhaarrthat is the longest svn username I've seen
13:14.13vhaarrMera_LaCroisadeEcarlate
13:14.28Mera:>
13:14.35digmousemaybe ever longest
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13:17.52luxusanyone know a resourcefriendly alternative to grid?
13:18.05luxusi am a rogue so i don't need much :D
13:18.15Zeksiethx for fixing XPerl esES durcyn
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13:19.31digmousesag_ich_nicht: I've done and works fine, committing
13:19.51sag_ich_nichtyou checked my last commit out?
13:20.30digmouseright
13:20.30CIA-4003rabbit * r70915 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Make sure to update the guild member list when we can.
13:20.38digmouseand fixed everything
13:20.49Zeksiewhat's NSCL then ?
13:20.58Zeksieapart from the obvious
13:21.18digmouseZeksie: make the default combatlog more similiar to SCL
13:21.32digmousebut not a SCL return
13:21.48sag_ich_nichti found a bug in blizz combat log while coding it just now Zeksie :P
13:21.58Zeksieok. won't get then. cos I did a lot of that myself
13:22.10sag_ich_nichtapparently setting ACTION_SWING_DAMAGE = ""; (and similar) causes internal strings to be exposed :X
13:22.59ramozluxus: the frames what come with oUF_P3lim are awesome
13:23.12ramozbut it comes with full unitframes
13:23.14CIA-4003rabbit * r70916 10NRT/NRT.lua: NRT: Make sure to update the guild member list when we can.
13:23.48Zhinjio~seen Ellipsis
13:23.52purlellipsis <n=ellipsis@wsip-70-182-87-69.ok.ok.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 7h 34m 35s ago, saying: 'no'.
13:23.53CIA-4003digmouse * r70917 10NotSimpleCombatLog/zhCN.lua:
13:23.53CIA-40NotSimpleCombatLog:
13:23.53CIA-40- zhCN added and fixed
13:23.59luxusyes i see ... but i am to lazy to hack the lua file .. if i just want to move my frames :D
13:24.22Zeksiedid a combat/start end seperating line and a couple of filter commands. so i can just do stuff like "/cs Doomfire" and see everyone who did any dancing in Doomfire
13:24.51sag_ich_nichtgimme dat
13:26.35Zeksiebut i stripped out some stuff too. like it only has TEXT_MODE_A, which meant I could cut down on a lot of string concats. and it dumps full text mode too.
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13:26.51sag_ich_nicht^^
13:27.26Zeksieand always shows the re-filtering bar even when window faded.
13:27.41sag_ich_nichthttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/NotSimpleCombatLog/enUS.lua?r1=70912&r2=70913 <--mystery commit! (for those not getting what i did there, anyway)
13:27.47Zeksieand full timestamps
13:29.34CIA-4003rabbit * r70918 10TypingIndicator/TypingIndicator.lua: TypingIndicator: Make sure we update the guild member list when we can.
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13:31.23sag_ich_nicht~lart digmouse
13:31.23purlkeeps mailing digmouse free America Online CDs until he drowns
13:31.28sag_ich_nichtyou broke the license on line 13 :P
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13:32.05sag_ich_nicht(not that it really matters)
13:32.52Zeksieplayed around with a func table to call the combat log parts too. which you'll see. instead of the humungous if else end
13:33.38Zeksieturned out bad tho, cos i kept getting "function at ???? has more than 60 upvalues"....
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13:34.44Zeksieoh. and it class colours raid members.
13:35.52digmouseO.o maybe that cause by a replace
13:36.11digmouseI use replace to change some repeated words :D
13:36.18ThiefMasterhm, short lua question:
13:36.46ThiefMastermy function is defined like that: function OnTooltipSetItemHook(tooltip, ...) and i want to call the original function which i hooked. do i need to call origOnTooltipSetItem(...); or origOnTooltipSetItem(tooltip, ...);?
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13:40.01vhaarrtooltip, ...
13:40.08ThiefMasterk
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13:40.52ThiefMasterany idea why my addon breaks the "current item" tooltip? (the one displaying the currently equipped item when pressing shift while hovering an item)
13:40.55ThiefMasterhttp://tm.privatepaste.com/771U0FEjpS is the code of the hook
13:41.23sag_ich_nichtugh
13:41.27sag_ich_nichtZeksie how does that work :P
13:41.31Zeksiewhat?
13:41.40Zhinjiowtf?
13:41.40sag_ich_nichtdoes it add an additional filter?
13:41.49Zhinjiosomeone's using Arc Hud, and thats preventing my addon from loading?
13:41.52sag_ich_nichti don't need timestamps e.g. as i already have timestamps :P
13:41.52Zhinjiothat is just whacked.
13:41.53Zeksieyeh, check where it does COMBATLOG:AddMessage
13:41.59Zeksietimestamps with millisecs?
13:42.01CIA-4003StiviS * r70919 10AutoBar/Locale-esES.lua: AutoBar : esES updated
13:42.10sag_ich_nichtnah, but i don't need those >.>
13:42.14Zeksiepff
13:43.23sag_ich_nichtmeh
13:43.28sag_ich_nichtyou're stuff is crazy i tell you man!
13:43.45sag_ich_nichti'm afraid of using it
13:43.51sag_ich_nichtin fear of it breaking my stuff >.>
13:43.52vhaarrThiefMaster: because your declarations are mixed up
13:43.54ZhinjioI need to get some translators turned loose on SKG
13:44.01vhaarrThiefMaster: when does |origOnTooltipSetItem| exist?
13:44.33ThiefMasteri need to declare it above the function even if the function is never called before it's declared?
13:44.45vhaarrif it's local, yes
13:45.05Zeksiecrazy schmazy
13:45.06ThiefMasterah thanks - didn't expect that in a scripting language
13:45.30vhaarrfiles are parsed from head to toe, not from toe to head
13:45.36vhaarrso I don't see why you wouldn't expect that
13:46.01ThiefMasterwell the function is not executed while the variable is undefined
13:46.01Shotbecause the function never checks to see if it exists until after it's initialised?
13:46.20CIA-4003ThiefMaster * r70920 10TierTooltip/Core.lua:
13:46.20CIA-40TierTooltip:
13:46.20CIA-40- Fix original function call
13:46.59vhaarryes but the function is declared and compiled with the surrounding scope before the local is declared
13:47.12vhaarrmakes perfect sense
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13:47.37Shotmeh
13:47.49Shotas long as we know that's how it works, then it's all peachy
13:48.19sag_ich_nichtbtw. Zeksie wanna get horrified? :P
13:48.24Shoti guess i assumed it was all interpreted, and would evaluate things as it gets to them
13:48.34Zeksiego on..
13:48.40vhaarrShot: right, that's what it does
13:48.54Shotbut if it's even half compiled, variables are just memory addresses (or something), and so in the funciton, it's trying to reference an unknown
13:49.17Shoti think i'll just leave it at "it is, so it is"
13:49.25Shotand continue on my merry way
13:49.55Shoton another note, it explains some possible errors in my own addon :/
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14:02.27digmousesag: is it able to color the player names by class in the combatlog?
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14:14.06luxusApoco: thanks for the shadow in rbm :D
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14:17.28Zhinjiolooking for a quick recommendation for a friend for a HUD mod. Something thats maintained regularly would be great.
14:17.34ZhinjioAnyone have any thoughts on that?
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14:18.47Zhinjioman, quiet morning.
14:20.52HjalteI liked Icehud when I was using a hud, and later Underhood was quite alright too.
14:21.42ZhinjioHjalte: thanks!
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14:22.50puggyDoes anyone know if there is a pitbull roadmap anywhere?
14:23.19Zhinjioroadmap?
14:23.19Merais back after 25m 31s
14:23.24Zhinjiowhat do you mean by that?
14:23.30puggya development plan
14:23.46puggyso I can see what's coming soon etc.
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14:23.56|Pixel|you know, like, planification, trying to know by advance where people are headed to
14:23.58Zhinjioin ckknight's head.
14:24.04|Pixel|the kind of stuff that we learn to do in school
14:24.08|Pixel|but never do in practice
14:24.19ckknightpuggy: I'm the author of PitBull
14:24.20ZhinjioI have never ever seen a roadmap for any addon, ever.
14:24.25Zhinjioso ... good luck.
14:24.32puggyOh, hi! Great mod. :-)
14:24.35ZhinjioG'morning ckknight
14:24.37ckknightpuggy: if you'd like, I could show you what I'm working on now
14:24.41ckknightbut it's not PitBull-related
14:24.51ckknightmorning, Zhinjio
14:25.24Prof_Alber1cart3?
14:25.24ckknightyep
14:25.24ckknight:-P
14:25.24puggyBasically I was just wondering about supersizing auras of your own making.
14:25.31ckknightthat's horrifically complex
14:25.36ckknightthe aura system is already brittle
14:25.59puggyAh, I see. I was gonna say, if it's not on the roadmap, I'll have a hack at it, but perhaps not. :-)
14:26.10puggyit's the only thing I miss from xperl.
14:26.28luxusgreatest feature from x-perl ;D
14:26.30puggyis there a particular reason why it's so complicated?
14:26.32ckknightbasically, it's not off the table, but I have no immediate plans to implement it
14:26.48ckknightyou'd be fully free to come up with something, I'd likely commit it
14:26.58ckknightpuggy: basically a lot of layout hacking, which I don't find fun
14:27.08ckknightI think it'd be damn nice to have
14:27.56puggysadly gui programming is my weakest point, but if it's just a layout thing, perhaps an alternative of colourising them differently.
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14:29.27puggydo you have a version respository I could look at ckknight?
14:29.34ckknightfor PitBull?
14:29.39puggyyeah
14:29.50ckknightit's svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull/
14:29.55ckknightdo you have an svn account?
14:30.06puggyah, I didn't realise they had svn there, nice.
14:30.17puggyI dont, can I jsut sign up for one on the site?
14:30.21Zeksieyeah. was nasty coding it for X-Perl. specially with perl's variable frame parts.
14:30.26ckknightyea, there is a waiting process, though
14:30.39puggythat's np, I can look at the release version.
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14:30.51ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules
14:31.08ckknightin any event, you can checkout as anonymous, come up with a patch, which I could commit
14:31.32Shotwhat would be the best method of changing an index in a table?
14:31.40puggywhile I'm here: Previously I hacked abot a bit using the lua plugin for eclipse, is there something superior I can use?
14:31.47ckknightShot: how do you mean?
14:31.59ckknightpuggy: I like to use TextMate
14:32.00Shot{a={b=c, d=f}, g={h,i}}
14:32.07ShotI want to change b to j
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14:32.21puggyI'll have a look, cheers.
14:32.26ckknightt.a.j = t.a.b; t.a.b = nil
14:32.37ckknightor even t.a.j, t.a.b = t.a.b, nil
14:32.49puggyah, foc mac. awesome. :-)
14:32.55puggyfor*
14:32.55Shotmakes sense
14:33.09chiper_TextMate on mac, Notepad++ on the PC
14:33.13Shoti was trying to go throuhg the table with for pairs, it wasn't happy
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14:34.13puggyI've been a Java programmer for so long now I can't operate without an IDE anymore.
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14:34.33puggyTo think I used to write C programmes in vi.
14:35.13ckknighthehe
14:36.23Daemonahmm for alt leveling... tomtom? tourguide?
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14:36.33SunTigerboth
14:36.35dylanmDaemona: Both. Together.
14:36.36puggylightheaded ftw
14:36.54Daemonapuggy i dont want the quest comments, i wont directions ;)
14:37.04ckknightI should test Tourguide with Cart3
14:37.13ckknightdoes anyone know if they work together?
14:37.18puggyI found carbonite pretty cool if you want to be a bit less linear that tourguide.
14:37.30ckknightdown with carbonite
14:37.34ckknightI'll crush it soon enough
14:37.37ckknightalso, it's bloated and icky
14:37.45puggywhat's wrong with it?
14:38.09ckknight(1) it's proprietary, obfuscated code
14:38.16ckknight(2) it uses greater than 5 MiB on start
14:38.16puggyOh really? mean
14:38.33ckknight(3) it uses between 5-10% CPU that I've seen
14:38.35Vangualno hate mail from them yet?
14:38.41ckknightfor Cart3?
14:38.47Vangualofc
14:38.49ckknightno, nothing yet, but I've made no announcements
14:39.08puggyI take it there's something incredible in the works
14:39.12ckknight~cartographer3
14:39.12purli heard cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
14:39.24Vangualdid you watch their public demo video btw? cart could use a similar flight animation module later on :)
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14:39.54ckknightyep ;-)
14:39.57puggyThe lightheaded author jsut moved into my basement at work and we were chatting about the possibilities now they are allowsing quest IDs to be readable in game
14:40.08ckknightpuggy: cladhaire?
14:40.14dylanmcladddd
14:40.27puggyI've no idae what his sig is, I call him Jim
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14:40.34ckknightJim Whitehead
14:40.40puggyyup, that's him. :-)
14:40.47ckknightpuggy: yea, I work at curse, for CurseProfiler 2.0, we now track quest ids instead of names
14:40.53Daemonackknight i expect cart4 to be something like this -> http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/150055/Infinity-Game-Engine.html
14:40.54Daemona;)
14:41.17ckknightlol, no
14:41.31Daemonadid you even check the movie? QQ
14:41.32Polarinawants feedback for her addon (release candidate)...
14:41.39puggyI'd started to write an addon which could resolve as many unique quests as possible, but when I heard that I literally threw my code in the bin. :-)
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14:42.48dylanmPolarina: Branches?
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14:43.01Polarinadylanm: No, it's in the trunk.
14:43.02hydrogen~cartographerover9000
14:43.08hydrogen:(
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14:43.27Hjalteckknight: TourGuide seems to work fine, I've had no problems with it + Cartographer 3
14:43.33ckknightokay, that's good
14:43.39HjalteI'm using it together with TomTom
14:44.15AckisWorkHydrogen, try version 9001... it's OVER 9000!! ahhahhahaha
14:44.16ckknightokay, good stuff, then
14:44.26puggyIt's sad that all the coordinates from wowhead in lightheaded aren't global coordinates, so tomtom blindly points you to somewhere in the wrong zone
14:44.44ckknightI want Cart3 to support pretty much everything
14:44.46dylanmPolarina: Oh, I see.
14:44.47puggythat is good about tourguide, they seem to be global.
14:44.57DarkElfdid a major library get updated in last 12 hours seems like alot of older mods are getting bumped?
14:44.58Daemonauuh i guess latest tourguide is the git snapshot?
14:45.03Daemonafrom tekkubs page?
14:45.14dylanmDaemona: On Github.
14:45.26Polarinadylanm: I did some major changes to the code too. :)
14:46.01dylanmPolarina: I've been thinking about getting some sort of spam filtering because it seems to have had a resurgence as of late... lots of options though.
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14:46.30Polarinadylanm: I guess you've found one now. :)
14:47.22dylanmPerhaps.You were using a much more expensive algorithm earlier weren't you?
14:47.41Polarinadylanm: Way before.
14:47.58kenlyricsomebody updated libbabblespell
14:48.03kenlyricwhich I heard was naughty.
14:48.14dylanmI know Funkeh` has something too.
14:48.18Daemonadylanm -> BadBoy
14:48.35Daemonais the funky one
14:48.43Daemona... bad joke .. i know
14:49.01Polarinadylanm: I'm not going to argue about the pros and cons of mine and Funkeh`'s, to avoid hurting his feelings. :)
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14:49.19Silviu-Polarina what addon are u talking about ?
14:49.23CIA-4003damjau * r70921 10TinyTipOptions/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
14:49.23CIA-40TinyTipOptions :
14:49.24CIA-40- update koKR locals
14:49.35PolarinaSilviu-: Relegation.
14:50.17Silviu-Ok, thx but no need atm spam reporting adddons ;p
14:50.51PolarinaSilviu-: You can still contribute, if you'd like. :)
14:52.02Merais now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (logon pageron)
14:52.07Fisker-i should feel bad :(
14:52.18Polarinagently pats Fisker-.
14:52.31AckisWork~seen phanx
14:52.33purlphanx <n=phanx133@adsl-69-228-204-2.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 17h 48m 45s ago, saying: 'Grum: IDCard will attach item icons to their tooltips.'.
14:52.34AckisWorkbah
14:52.39AckisWorkoh it worked
14:52.41AckisWorkahahahah
14:52.44ckknightMera: turn that off
14:52.45Merais away, auto-away after 20 minutes (42s ago)
14:52.45Merais back after 43s
14:52.50ckknightgoddammit
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14:52.59AckisWorkI think mera is back fyi
14:53.35KriLL3is there a way to make baggins display something like the inventory but with the bank(s) of your chars? I found a plugin that makes it display a drop down deep into the fubar config, which isn't "visual" enough for me
14:54.09puggyI looked for that KriLL3, dont think bagggins can do it at least
14:54.16KriLL3:(
14:54.32puggyPossibly one of the other bagmods can, I dont know.
14:54.38KriLL3puggy: do you know a stand alone addon that does it? seen a bunch that does both the bags and the bank, and the bags isn't as good as the bag one
14:54.44KriLL3*baggins one
14:54.54Hjaltebankitems is a good addon for showing bank items, other alts inventories etc.
14:55.22puggyafraid not, I spent like a million hours configuring addons, the anywhere bags bit isn't bad enough for me to switch
14:55.29puggyconfiguring baggins*
14:55.39PolarinaHjalte: Do I have to visit the bank for it to know what's in my bank?
14:55.44puggyyup
14:55.49HjaltePolarina: Once, yes.
14:55.53KriLL3Polarina: I haven't seen any that doesn't need it
14:55.57PolarinaHjalte: Then I won't use it.
14:56.15HjaltePolarina: There's no way of knowing what's in your bank if you don't tell it to your addon?
14:56.25Shotckknight: why is there a bluey/purple diamond on my map?
14:56.34Shoti'm sure it wasn't there last time I loaded ^^
14:56.46ckknightShot: like shaman-colored?
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14:57.03PolarinaHjalte: The addon can use GetItemCount(<ID>, true) - GetItemCount(<ID>) and iterating over with ID from 1 to 48000
14:57.07ckknightor mage or warlock?
14:57.26ckknightShot: cause that's one of your guildmates
14:57.57Shotah, that makes sense
14:58.07Shothaven't seen anyone else on it before now
14:58.19Shotbtw - I much prefer the old map icons
14:58.23Shotthese ones are huge :/
14:58.37Hjalteckknight: Cartographer 3's own dots, party members or guild positions have no tooltip at the moment, right?
14:58.39ckknightI'll make the size customizeable
14:58.40Shotand I can't mouseover it to find out it's a guildie :)
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14:58.48ckknightHjalte: yea, but that'll be added real soon
14:59.02Hjalteckknight: Goodie, it's annoying me :D
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15:00.00harldephincan Cartographer_Mining have an option to _not_ show the tooltips for the minimap tracking icons/circles or.. only show it when a modifier key is pressed at the same time?
15:00.14harldephinit=them
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15:02.45harldephinsometimes the tooltip and the actual resource that could be harvested aren't equal, so it's harder to find out which resource is actually there when the tracking icon overlays it.
15:04.39KriLL3does bankitems have an option to make it one bag? I see a screenshot here with it showing all bags seperatly
15:05.10Stanzillaharldephin: go get GatherMate :D
15:05.14CIA-4003next96 * r70922 10ItemSync/ (ItemSync.lua locals/eng.lua locals/kr.lua):
15:05.14CIA-40ItemSync:
15:05.14CIA-40- more localization
15:05.14CIA-40- Update locale koKR
15:05.19DarkElfKriLL3 did ya try arkinventory?
15:05.27KriLL3would be nice if baggins got a proper bank plugin and had a button somewhere to display your bags so you could switch em out, not needed often on higher levels but I'm leveling a new char and it's damn annoying to switch around bags
15:05.40KriLL3DarkElf: ace or not?
15:05.58DarkElfits on the site
15:06.05sb<3 combuctor
15:06.08sb(bag addon)
15:07.52KriLL3sb: it's not on curse and it's not on wowace
15:08.02sbwowinterface
15:08.10DarkElfon wowace
15:08.24sbhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8113-Combuctor.html
15:09.40HobbyKriLL3: did you even look? :)
15:09.48Hobbyhttp://files.wowace.com/
15:09.58KriLL3Hobby: I looked on the wowaceupdater
15:10.04AckisWorkIs there a french version of wowdb?
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15:13.13KriLL3does anyone know a good gear guide site/addon? I leveled up my 70 druid and got the "best" single:able gear you could get right after BC was released, then stopped playing due to pressing schoolwork and all that jazz, want to get going again but I'm totally flabbergasted what gear to get
15:13.48hydrogenlots and lots of +healing
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15:14.34KriLL3I'm feral
15:14.38hydrogenexactly
15:14.51AckisWorkThere's a program called Rawr I think
15:14.56AckisWorkand sites like wowdb.com
15:15.02PsychoRawr is real good.
15:15.31AckisWorkThey need a rawr for healing... call it heeps
15:15.48LukianKriLL3, http://druid.wikispaces.com/ToskksDPSGearMethod
15:15.48sag_ich_nichtthere's also an addon called rawr
15:15.54sag_ich_nichtit needs fixing :P
15:15.54Lukianand rawr
15:17.07KriLL3what does rawr do?
15:17.24harldephin*rawr*
15:17.25KriLL3found "rawrkitty" on wowaceupdater, that's the one?
15:17.57LukianRawr is a program for comparing and exploring gear for Bears, Cats, Moonkin, Mages, and Warlocks. It is currently in public beta testing, and is being developed by by Astrylian, of US-Whisperwind. Rawr has been designed from the start to be fun to use, and helpful in finding better combinations of gear, and what gear to find.
15:18.04Lukianl2read the links I give you :p
15:18.33hydrogenBOOM
15:18.37hydrogenpewpewpewkin
15:18.39hydrogenamirite?
15:18.59KriLL3I can't see an oomkin without laughing
15:19.15KriLL3dunno how they're in pvp with other classes but my feral walks all over them
15:19.41hydrogenI force them to /dance to get invited to raids
15:19.49hydrogenThey bring a bigger spirit buff than any priest i've ever found
15:20.13DarkElfthinks blizzard should make moonkin playable and member of horde in the next game after lich king lol :p
15:20.27p3limmoonkins are ewul
15:20.30harldephinforce? lol. really. lol..
15:21.09KriLL3I never really got into raiding, I did BWL 2-3 times through and did all the wipefest raids before we managed it, and then the guild leaders didn't let me in anymore since I was feral and thus not wanted...
15:21.24KriLL3love that, free to come to wipe but when it's farming status? not allowed in
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15:22.01KriLL3but their shadow priest friend with green gear could come on any raid he wanted since he was an IRL friend of the guild leaders...
15:22.02harldephinthat must've been some really stupid guild leaders then.
15:22.06KriLL3yeah
15:22.23KriLL320 somethings that spoke almost no English and only cared about themselves
15:22.25harldephinnot worth my time those people are, being a feral druid myself.
15:22.58AckisWorkferal dr00ds are OP now :P
15:23.04KriLL3OP?
15:23.08harldephinthey're not.
15:23.08Vulcanusoverpowered
15:23.08AckisWorkover powered
15:23.15Vulcanusthey are
15:23.19harldephinnot.
15:23.24Vulcanustoo.
15:23.27KriLL3AckisWork: all classes are OP against some other class/spec
15:23.36harldephinright
15:23.38AckisWorkI'm not talking pvp
15:23.47harldephinpvp stinks
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15:23.58AckisWorkwe all know resto druids are the OP ones in pvp :P
15:24.02KriLL3I haven't raided with my druid in ages so I dunno how we stand there, though I guess most guilds still think druids are healers only
15:24.04evlmy penis is overpowered
15:24.15AckisWorkif by overpowered you mean tiny
15:24.23KriLL3I hate that aspect of raiding, each class has only one acceptable spec more or less
15:24.34AckisWorkNot anymore
15:24.38puggynot really KriLL3
15:24.48evlKriLL3: woot? we have prot pala, holy pala. resto druid, feral and even boomkin
15:24.49EvilJohn-yeah, I agree with those taht don't disagree
15:24.49hydrogenno one let feral druids into bwl when it was progression.
15:24.52KriLL3if the guild leaders are retarded it is
15:24.53hydrogenand for pretty good reasons
15:24.57hydrogenthey were pretty bad
15:25.03EvilJohn-the game is very different now
15:25.05AckisWorkWe killed twins last week... our normal raids has enhance shaman, shadow priests, ret pally, etc
15:25.13hydrogenconsiddering the first real feral gear showed up in Aq-40
15:25.17evla raid without a shadowpriest won't work these days :P
15:25.23puggyor a prot pally
15:25.29evlwell you can
15:25.36evlbut MH/Felmyst without prot pala is a bit meh
15:26.06KriLL3hydrogen: I did a lot of damage using rogue gear and 2 handed maces in BWL, and I was welcome while we still were trying to get through it, but not when we finally did
15:26.08evlbut for rogues there is only one spec :P
15:26.24Matrix110|for mages there are 3
15:26.30CIA-4003ananhaid * r70923 10oRA2/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
15:26.30CIA-40oRA2:
15:26.30CIA-40- zhCN update.
15:26.58KriLL3and when I bid on non class leather in BWL with clear druid stats and no rogue wanted to bid against me the guild leader asked me to rescind my bid
15:27.06KriLL3Malfurions chest thingy I think it was
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15:27.49KriLL3when I didn't he ignored my bid and was about to give it to a rogue that didn't bid anything until the rest of the druids in the raid went nuts on voip
15:27.56DarkElfKriLL3 - check out the pics of this bag mod, even has a guild bank http://code.google.com/p/arkinventory/
15:28.03evlMatrix110|: lies, there is fire and there is people without fire!!!
15:28.34KriLL3DarkElf: looks a lot like MCUI_Inventory or something like that, the one I used that went belly up years ago
15:29.24PolarinaKriLL3: What class were you during that raid?
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15:29.30KriLL3druid, feral
15:29.35PolarinaKriLL3: Ok.
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15:29.44noadfhnoadhello
15:30.04noadfhnoadanyone here who is in use with bartender3?
15:30.16KriLL3yeah
15:30.26KriLL3it's my bar addon of choice
15:30.30noadfhnoadwell do played with it 2day?
15:30.32PolarinaKriLL3: There will always exist weird people. A simple fact of life.
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15:31.10noadfhnoadi just ask because i got the "incompatible" error in my addonmenu in my character window
15:31.15harldephinmy druid's equally recognised as a healer, a feral damage dealer or a feral tank respectively by different people, depending on what kind of people they are and for which kind of situation they know me better. i've healed a group of people through the shadow labyrinth in normal mode, but that's about as far as i can go with my healing being feral.
15:31.20KriLL3Polarina: just odd that all guilds I've ever been in ended up being controlled by retarded bigots that has no idea what a feral druid is good for
15:31.56PolarinaKriLL3: :)
15:32.18KriLL3harldephin: I'm not a poor healer myself, since no one wanted the druid healing gear in instances I took it all and put it in my bank
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15:32.30harldephinyes
15:32.53KriLL3and having innervate even with a feral build is nice
15:33.17hydrogentalking about feral after the druid revamp patch
15:33.19hydrogenand feral before it
15:33.20harldephinyes
15:33.23hydrogenis two completely different things
15:33.37AckisWorkdoes anyone here play on a frFR server?
15:33.41hydrogennot going to bwl before the druid revamp patch
15:33.46PolarinaKriLL3: If I ever end up in a situation with someone where we can't decide which one of us should get the loot, I usually have a game-master decide for us.
15:33.50KriLL3AckisWork: I don't eat cheese
15:34.31harldephinactually, i think the druid's the most versatile class next to the paladin, but i personally dislike the paladin as a damage dealer (and not much less as a tank).
15:34.38AckisWork:P
15:34.52KriLL3Polarina: well if I bid over a rogue on items that are clearly meant for druids (much stam and str) It's mine...
15:34.59PolarinaI dislike Rogues as healers, that is.
15:35.02hydrogenWhat ever happened to Avatar by the way...
15:35.08hydrogendid he fade out with the burning crusade?
15:35.18harldephinPolarina: there we have something in common.
15:35.32Polarinaharldephin: :)
15:35.51VonhintenHOME`How can you dislike a paladin damage dealer?  Do you realize that a single ret pally can keep up judgements from multiple pally's... judge of wisdom alone giving back a ton of mana to your dps
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15:36.56PsychoVonhintenHOME`: Because most of them have no idea what they're doing and deal terrible damage and aren't worth the raid spot.
15:37.00KriLL3VonhintenHOME`: but can they keep dps up without aggroing?
15:37.03Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNpABtIKERg <-in soviet russia mig-29 notes you
15:37.11sicawell, one retpala may be great in a 25 raid, but they suck in 5 and 10man groups
15:37.25[DXII]Socksdoes anyway know how I would go about fixing this error? "Interface\Addons\ElkBuffBars\ElkBuffBars.lua:46 : Cannot find al ibrary instance of AceLocale-2.2"
15:37.26HobbyPsycho: you only need 1
15:37.35harldephini _could_ deal damage as a paladin, that's not the point, but i just dislike the paladin in that role.
15:37.41KriLL3I've personally mostly seen paladins that either deal very little damage or deal ok damage and aggro and wipe you
15:37.45HobbyKriLL3: we have 1 that does all the time, and is always in the top 3 dps while maintaining judgements
15:37.52PsychoHobby: I'm aware.
15:38.11KriLL3Hobby: nice, just saying I haven't met a paladin that is a valid dps:er
15:38.20KriLL3I'm not saying it's impossible
15:38.34PolarinaWoW crashed: "Requested 3779414126 bytes of memory"
15:38.42hydrogenthats a lot of memory
15:38.59hydrogen3604 MB
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15:39.14KriLL33519MB
15:39.19KriLL31024 =P
15:39.22Fisker-3519,12MB
15:39.23Fisker-:D
15:39.45PolarinaIt's odd. I have 4 GiB of memory.
15:39.59VonhintenHOME`KriLL, if the tank doesn't suck, they should be able to, yes
15:40.02KriLL3well your OS etc usually needs more than 500MB
15:40.11Hobbyyeah that's not what that error means, it's not worded correctly
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15:40.19PolarinaKriLL3: And around 300 MiB in use before starting WoW.
15:40.30KriLL3VonhintenHOME`: the tanks were fine, but the paladin had that orange sword and didn't know when to stop, he was bad and I know it
15:40.33Hobbythat's the access violation error you get, wow tried to access memory starting at that address, which wasn't it's memory
15:40.52Silverstormwhat OS are you running that needs 500MB?  Vista?
15:40.57KriLL3VonhintenHOME`: I'm not saying paladins can't, I'm saying that paladin can't
15:41.00PolarinaHobby: The crash log doesn't mention that.
15:41.08hydrogenKriLL3: no..
15:41.11PolarinaHobby: Just that there is not enough memory.
15:41.14hydrogenhydrogen@Yes:~/qt/include$ echo $((3779414126/1024/1024))
15:41.14hydrogen3604
15:41.18HobbySilverstorm: most OSs use that much if it's there
15:41.19KriLL3Silverstorm: both XP and Vista needs more than 500MB, from what I've seen
15:41.51VonhintenHOME`You won't have 4GB of useable memory on XP or Vista (32)
15:41.55Hobbysome page, but the more you have quickly accessible in RAM, the faster your environment is....empty ram is a total waste, only when paging for changeout is it bad
15:41.57PolarinaKriLL3: I don't use Windows.
15:42.09KriLL3Vista got superfetch so it eats all it can get until it's needed
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15:42.41KriLL3I got 4GB of ram and uses 53% idle
15:42.43DarkElfvista can eat 2gb easily but there are alot of quest related addons that eat memory as well
15:43.07KriLL3DarkElf: yeah but it relinquishes the ram if something needs it
15:43.13PolarinaHobby: It's not a waste. The OS uses the "unused" memory to cache disk reads.
15:43.28KriLL3measuring free ram on vista is a pointless activity
15:43.52Fisker-as far as i recall Windows will reserve 1GB of memory for the kernel?
15:44.08PolarinaI'm not using Windows!
15:44.15KriLL3Fisker-: a bit less I think
15:44.16Fisker-Yes youa re!
15:44.23KriLL3Polarina: ohnoes, poor man
15:44.23PolarinaFisker-: No, I'm not!
15:44.35Fisker-you certainly are :(
15:44.48DarkElfhehe i was reading the specs on this one new game and it said it need 1gb for xp but 2gb for vista hehe, either way i opted out - Assassin's Creed lol
15:44.50PolarinaFisker-: I'm not. How can I claim as such?
15:44.52Snagosag_ich_nicht: lol @ your licence :P
15:46.14Fisker-i hate you Polarina
15:46.17Fisker-you use arguments
15:46.39PolarinaFisker-: I'm not arguing, I'm trying to tell you that I'm not using Windows.
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15:47.21HobbyDarkElf: it's probably written in DX9 and 10
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15:47.24CIA-4003Carlos 07Kyopaxa * r70924 10BigWigs/ (25 files in 6 dirs):
15:47.24CIA-40BigWigs:
15:47.24CIA-40- Added full esES localization on Sunwell, TheEye and ZulAman BigWigs módules.
15:47.24CIA-40- Reviewed other own esES localizations of Black Temple, Hyjal and Core.lua
15:47.25CIA-40¡¡esES FULL localization ended at last for BigWigs!! :D:D:D
15:47.33DarkElfyup
15:47.58PolarinaCIA-40: *cheers*
15:48.17vhaarryou're aware that CIA-40 is a bot, I hope
15:48.18CIA-4003ackis * r70925 10AckisRecipeList/ (Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua RecipeDB/ARL-BeastTrain.lua):
15:48.18CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
15:48.18CIA-40- More hunter beast skills conversions (all of Claw)
15:48.18CIA-40- Removed unneeded localizations in enUS
15:48.18CIA-40- All dry-coded
15:48.51Fisker-i still hate you Polarina :(
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15:48.59ulicvhaarr: lies!  CIA-40 is my friend.
15:49.15PolarinaFisker-: Why? :'(
15:49.24Fisker-because you don't use windows :'(
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15:49.53PolarinaFisker-: I can't afford it, and what I currently have works fine for me.
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15:50.10vhaarrlots of people here don't use windows, Fisker-
15:50.11vhaarrincluding me
15:50.34FinalXI use anything that works for me in that particular situation :o
15:50.36PolarinaFisker-: But you are probably trying to trick me. Yes, I do have windows on my house. :D
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15:50.44FinalXKeeps me versatile knowledge-wise as well :o
15:50.54Fisker-i always obvious troll Polarina
15:51.02Fisker-even when i'm not
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15:51.31Psychovhaarr: If you don't use Windows how do you use Internet Explorer?
15:51.40PsychoAnd Microsoft Outlook!
15:51.46PolarinaFisker-: You're a good troll. It took me a long time for me to suspect anything. :)
15:51.52SunTsu.o0( wine *ducks and runs away* )
15:52.20PsychoSo you're saying he gets drunk and pretends to be using IE and Outlook. Interesting strategy.
15:52.22vhaarrPsycho: I downloaded the source and compiled them for linux!
15:52.29Polarina~cookie Fisker-
15:52.44EvilJohn-wow runs pretty good under Wine, if you get all your mouse buttons working right.
15:52.47Polarina~slap purl
15:52.47purlACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
15:53.09PolarinaEvilJohn-: The mouse button issue has nothing to do with Wine.
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15:53.55EvilJohn-no explicitly
15:53.56EvilJohn-not
15:53.58EvilJohn-no
15:55.03PolarinaEvilJohn-: It has nothing to do with Wine!
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15:56.50charonthey did break alt-click in 0.9.59 though
15:57.01PolarinaEvilJohn-: And I can get higher FPS with GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object enabled.
15:57.11EvilJohn-really
15:57.14EvilJohn-that's interesting
15:57.30Polarinacharon: Your window manager (GNOME does it by default), hook the Alt key and doesn't pass it to other applications.
15:57.30vhaarrI've had that enabled since I first tried WoW on wine.
15:57.36vhaarrindeed
15:58.03vhaarrcharon: launch gnome-window-properties and change the meta key
15:58.10charoni know, i remapped it, i'm telling you, they broke it in 0.9.59, it's a wine issue, it's reported, it's fixed in bleeding edge (or perhaps there's a 0.9.60, haven't checked in a week or so)
15:58.12FinalXthat's the first thing i undid in gnome's terminal..
15:58.20FinalXI like my Alt key mapped as meta in irssi -.-
15:58.26EvilJohn-Beryl/comp used to eat as well as I recall
15:58.42vhaarrPolarina: so you don't disable GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object in the registry?
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15:58.48Polarinavhaarr: No.
15:58.59vhaarrcool, I'll have to try that
15:59.14Polarinavhaarr: But you have to add to your xorg.conf file a option.
15:59.22billithis might be an easy one, but I can't find it anywhere. Can I get the current date/time out in an addon?
15:59.31vhaarrbilli: time()
15:59.36Polarinavhaarr: Under the section for your video card, add  Option "MultiGPU" "true"
15:59.45billiaha thx :)
15:59.49vhaarrPolarina: even if I don't have multiple GPUs?
15:59.59Polarinavhaarr: Yes. Even if you don't have multiple GPUs.
16:00.11EvilJohn-I'm going to try that when I get home
16:00.14Polarinavhaarr: Multiple GPUs =/= SLI  for your information.
16:00.21vhaarryeah I know
16:01.13PolarinaNVIDIA decided to have it disabled by default for GNU/Linux. (It is enabled by default for the Windows drivers).
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16:01.34AmadeoEveryone can have fun now, I'm here
16:01.53PolarinaAmadeo: I updated Relegation, just for you. :)
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16:05.29charondoes anyone know how to use EasyMenu()? i'm trying to implement bar right-click menus for omen, but it keeps calling :VersionCheck() for no apparent reason.
16:06.13charonhere's the code i use, mostly stolen from a google hit on the wowace forums: http://ace.pastey.net/86242
16:06.20Fisker-any cool addons lately?
16:06.28PolarinaI found out what was causing the crash.....
16:06.57Fisker-http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1812487 awesome
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16:14.08Fisker-btw [Ammo] can we get spyware in oRA2?
16:14.26hydrogenI sure hope so!
16:14.57Chompersgood idea Fisker-
16:15.02Fisker-yeah
16:15.08Fisker-i'm pretty awesome now that i think of it
16:15.15Chompersagreed
16:15.17Chomperswait
16:15.18Chompersno
16:15.20ElkanoSpyGnome still does the trick for me
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16:20.53ChompersFisker-: what's your +heal?
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16:23.33Fisker-2050ish
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16:24.54AmadeoPolarina: Getting it!
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16:25.29Fisker-WHY MR. Chompers
16:25.45Fisker-what does spygnome do Elkano ?
16:25.56Amadeotop secret
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16:26.11Fisker-i'm having sex with you right now Amadeo
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16:29.23CIA-4003oridan * r70926 10SpellReminder/ (6 files):
16:29.23CIA-40SpellReminder:
16:29.23CIA-40- New combat log parser, remove Parser3
16:29.23CIA-40- some memory leaks fixed
16:29.23CIA-40- update to LSM3
16:29.24CIA-40- Fix problems with Spell Settings menu, also now click on group to enable/disable tracking.
16:29.50AmadeoFisker-: That must be why I don't feel anything
16:31.19Fisker-yeah
16:32.04Fisker-my love is nature's drug for pain
16:32.13Fisker-that's how big it is
16:32.30[SW]Dodgelf dogtag pro :D
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16:34.06[SW]Dodgehttp://rafb.net/p/qo9bxz93.html will show "<D> 00%" if i'm dnd
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16:34.51[SW]Dodgeah ok got it :D frist truncate and then color :D
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16:38.23Zeksie~seen Elsia
16:38.24purlelsia <i=elsiarow@p57A25358.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23h 20m 57s ago, saying: 'aww'.
16:38.31Zeksieslacker...
16:40.30Fisker-damn the alliance and horde holding back archimonde's forces were weak
16:40.41Fisker-Why would you barricade your own construction buildings?
16:40.43Fisker-and bunkers?
16:40.44HealthSomeone removed the texture I was using :(
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16:40.49Fisker-How are you going to reinforce your troops?
16:41.02Fisker-btw Zeksie
16:41.06Zeksiesup
16:41.26Fisker-one of the guildies were silly
16:41.30Fisker-and put zomgbuffs on standby
16:41.34Fisker-now he can't get it out again
16:41.49Zeksie./zomg standby ?
16:41.54Fisker-and no that's not what she said
16:42.01Fisker-awesome
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16:42.09Fisker-just that it doesn't autocomplete to zomg
16:42.12Fisker-so i was confused :(
16:42.22Zeksieuh?
16:42.46Fisker-mine can only autocomplete "/zomgself and /zomgselfbuffs"
16:42.56Zeksieoh. she has some / command auto complete feature which is finding others first. heh. tough really. nothing to do with me ;)
16:43.08Fisker-ace has that?
16:43.09Fisker-also
16:43.11Zeksieno
16:43.12Fisker-it doesn't find zomg at all
16:43.19Zeksiecomplain at THAT author for not alpha ordering the completions imo
16:43.35Fisker-i've never downloaded any autocomplete addon
16:43.41Fisker-it's always been there with all ace addons i've had
16:43.48profalbertFisker-: prat does that afaik
16:43.53Fisker-don't use prat anymore
16:44.02Zeksieprat does names i think. nt sure about cmds
16:44.26vhaarrAceTab-2.0 does it
16:44.36Zeksiewhat chatter needs to do is filtered history... i type /dump and then press Up arrow and it shows me the previous command starting with /dump.
16:44.38Fisker-and AceTab-3.0 right?
16:44.55vhaarrright
16:45.10Silviu-vhaarr SimpleChatMods URlcopy is kinda broken right ? it won`t catch any ur`ls i type
16:45.23vhaarrSilviu-: yeah it should be fixed up, I think
16:45.38Fisker-now i'm just curious though
16:45.39vhaarrshould just ninja Arrowmaster's Chatter URLCopy work
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16:45.46Fisker-since acetab-2.0/acetab-3.0 is doing autocomplete
16:45.56Fisker-why is it only picking up /zomgself and /zomgselfbuffs? :P
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16:46.10vhaarryou'd have to ask hyperChipmunk
16:46.15vhaarrI guess
16:46.24Fisker-~seen hyperchipmunk
16:46.26purlhyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 128d 9h 27m 56s ago, saying: '~improbability'.
16:46.27Fisker-seen last decade
16:46.28Fisker-yeah
16:46.30Fisker-i knew that
16:46.36Fisker-poor me
16:46.37Fisker-;_;
16:46.48Silviu-vhaarr if u did not commit anything to it in the past 4 days, then is still broken :)
16:46.58Silviu-it won`t even catch www.yahoo.com
16:47.17Fisker-i wouldn't want anything to catch www.yahoo.com hoho
16:47.43vhaarrSilviu-: if I remember correctly, it will only catch urls that are prepended with a space
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16:47.49vhaarrlike " www.yahoo.com"
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16:49.18DemalHeya :)
16:49.29DemalAnyone knows of an addon to calculate DPS (show differences) in items?
16:50.23Zeksienearest i know of is Pawn, but you have to give it something to go on
16:50.36Zeksielike dropping AEP values in if you're a rogue. etc
16:50.52Demalim a rogue
16:50.54Demal:P
16:51.27Nechcknwould EquipCompare not work as well?
16:51.36Demalit does, but its highly inaccurate
16:51.46Demalit ignores green bonuses
16:51.49Demalit ignores set bonus
16:52.01Nechcknoh right- it just gets you "close"
16:52.05Demalit ignores bonus if an item is socketed (i.e, socket bonus)
16:52.13CIA-4003krakhaan * r70927 10EnchantBot/ (EnchantBot.lua ReadMe.txt):
16:52.13CIA-40EnchantBot:
16:52.13CIA-40- Fix typo in ReadMe.txt
16:52.13CIA-40- Removed obsolete function
16:52.18Nechcknthose you can add in now- the socket items
16:52.27[SW]Dodgeckknight: why i cant enable Raid configuration mode if i'm in a raid with <=5 people? :(
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16:52.37Demalnot the bonus you get from items when socketed
16:52.51balstorany thing exciting today?
16:52.59ckknight[SW]Dodge: cause you're in a party
16:53.14ckknight[SW]Dodge: there's an option to show raids <= 5 people as just a party
16:53.14Nechcknyou can add in the gems so it knows which is socketed
16:53.17ckknightyou can turn that off
16:53.34NechcknDemal  but if pawn is more accurate- that's cool too
16:53.43Demali never used pawn
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16:53.56Demali just know the equipcompare is too innacurate for me and I wish for something better
16:53.59Nechcknthat's the one Zeksie mentioned
16:54.06[SW]Dodgeckknight: where can i find that option?
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16:54.18ckknightunder party or raid, possibly both
16:54.42evlHas anyone done vapor scouting on felmyst here?
16:54.45Xinhuanckknight, jerry is complaining about pitbull taints ;p
16:54.46evlNeed hints
16:54.46Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13014.0
16:54.59Primerckknight: pardon me for asking you this again, but...in pitbull, the only way for me to save a layout of unit frames, and not the look of 1 unit frame, is to save the SavedVariables/PitBull.lua file? There is no built in way for storing the layout?
16:55.18Xinhuanwell not really pitbull itself i guess
16:55.20[SW]Dodgeckknight: ok thanks found it :) (i was searching in the global settings before <.<)
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16:55.33[SW]Dodgeckknight: ok thanks found it :) (i was searching in the global settings before <.<)
16:55.59Amadeocasts Power Word: Shield on ckknight
16:56.06AmadeoEveryone's attacking him!
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16:57.55Zhinjiois there a simple way to reset the position of the chat frames back to default?
16:58.03Zhinjiofriend of mine has them completely off screen somehow
16:58.17AckisWorkpounces
16:58.25Zhinjioif there's command line way, I'm just gonna have him delete the layout-cache file.
16:58.29Zhinjioheya Ackis
16:58.40Zhinjioif there's NO comman...
16:59.07AckisWorkheya Zhinjio
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17:01.31Beherithi there can i track via combatlog 2.4 when a guys buff count is decreasing (e.g. 6 times earthshield -> 5 times...)
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17:02.41Beheriti can track the buff gain, fade and the heal(proc) itself but i want to be sure that my count is corrent (like via UNIT_AURA)
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17:04.10ulicI haven't looked into it, but it should be pretty easy to find out.  turn on logging, get ES, go get hit several times until it ticks down, turn the logging off and look at the logs.
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17:04.21ulicI don't think I've seen anything like that though.
17:04.36BeheritSPELL_HEAL procs with the healname EARTHSHIELD
17:04.43Beheritthis is working to track and is ok
17:05.00balstorLUA question is local a,b=... same as local a, local b=....  
17:05.17Beheritthe problem is that sometimes if i recast earthshield in the same moment the SPELL_HEAL procs my counter is wrong (on buff set to 6), on heal -1
17:05.45sb[Ammo]: autopromote is broken :/
17:05.47CIA-4003Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate * r70928 10XPerl/localization.frFR.lua:
17:05.47CIA-40XPerl:
17:05.47CIA-40-Added frFR new 2.4 gender based class names
17:05.48dylanmlua> local a,local b=1,2
17:05.49lua_botdylanm: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near 'local'
17:06.02dylanmYou can't really mix and match, if that's what you're asking.
17:06.09NeoTronAntiarc: LibBars still don't hide bars when you RemoveBar them ;-)
17:06.11ulicBeherit: are you scanning the log for your cast?  or for the aura application?
17:06.22vhaarrdylanm: local a,b = 1,2
17:06.33dylanmvhaarr: I know. Just demonstrating :p
17:06.34CIA-4003Carlos 07Kyopaxa-esES * r70929 10BigWigs/ (71 files in 12 dirs):
17:06.34CIA-40BigWigs:
17:06.34CIA-40- Full esES localization. :D
17:06.37balstorhmm i was wondering if one local in a list covered them all, but you answered that question
17:06.40vhaarrsb: are you sure? I removed the chat output from the autopromoting, but it should still do it
17:06.49KriLL3anyone got a buff addon they can recommend? pitbull doesn't seem to include a multitude of buffs and debufs for some reason
17:06.54Fisker-catches vhaarr
17:06.55balstorTrying to find ways to squeeze processor cycles out of my code
17:06.56sbvhaarr: doesnt work here
17:07.10sbthey are still in the list but no promoting happens
17:07.27CIA-4003ackis * r70930 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
17:07.27CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
17:07.27CIA-40- More hunter beast skills conversions
17:07.27CIA-40- Removed unneeded localizations in all locals
17:07.27CIA-40- All dry-coded
17:07.31balstor~lart cncfanatics
17:07.31purlnabs the moon and broadsides cncfanatics with the sea of tranquility
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17:09.00balstorisn't there an addon someplace that tracks the cpu usage per addon, so i can identify those cpu hogs?
17:09.12Josh_Borkebalstor: performancefu, option house
17:09.20Josh_Borkebalstor: the default blizzard interface
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17:09.42balstorHaven't seen the defaukt blizzard ui in 3 years
17:09.59profalbertbalstor: you have to enable "cpu profiling" in performanceFu
17:10.19profalbertAloft 4-5% oO
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17:10.45dylanmKeep in mind that CPU profiling is not something you want to have on if you're trying to get game stuff done.
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17:11.23balstorI'll run it in some AV runs should give me an idea of raid performance
17:11.25PolarinaI always have CPU profiling enabled...
17:11.26Josh_Borkeunless you have a beef computer
17:11.34Josh_Borkeas in, made of cow
17:11.53ulicmmmm....cow
17:12.01dylanmNom nom.
17:12.46balstormy computer is still decent, but it's getting somewhat old. and i can't afford the skulltrain upgrade yet. (I only buy computers every 7 years)
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17:13.06Tornhoofp3 1ghz?
17:13.24AckisWorkSomeone sent me a screenshot of ARL using like 8 seconds of CPU time... lol I was like wtf?
17:13.55AckisWorkthey had embedded libraries however
17:14.07AckisWorkso i blamed pitbull and called it a day
17:14.11AckisWorksnickers
17:14.26balstordual AMD Athlon MP 2800+ 3 gigs memory and a raid 5 scsi 320 (5 drives)
17:14.42Tornhoofah ok so around 4 years old
17:14.55Beheritso re sorry
17:15.06balstorno 7, when i bought this the motherboard bios was the factory test version
17:15.10stew_amy ARL is quite high but i put it down to the libs being loaded first
17:15.30Beheritulic i scan for a succesfull cast, so then it is set to default
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17:15.34AckisWorkstew_a: aye, that's what's going on... only processing that occurs is on demand when you hit the scan button
17:15.43balstorbut thats neither here no there
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17:16.10vhaarrsb: I can't find the problem, could you try toggling the two new options, "Promote all" and "Promote guild", and see if that helps?
17:16.21vhaarrsb: note that people have to rejoin the raid
17:16.53vhaarrsb: they should be promoted after 2-3 seconds of joining
17:17.34sbvhaarr: testing later, trying brutallus atm ;)
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17:21.51charongreat ... i still can't figure out how to make EasyMenu work (http://ace.pastey.net/86242)
17:22.07balstorwow clearfont2 consumes some cpu
17:22.17charonhowever, i modified Omen:VersionCheck() to print a counter and it's called precisely 109 times when i run the EasyMenu bit
17:22.19vhaarrsb: are you the raid leader or just assistant?
17:23.06NeoTronvhaarr: so not seeing all the history, auto-promoting didn't work last night
17:23.12vhaarrright
17:23.21NeoTronassume that'd be the issue discussed
17:23.22sbleader
17:23.36vhaarrwould be easier if I could actually log in wow myself and test, but I can't
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17:25.09ulicBeherit: try maybe scanning for the application of the aura on the target, I'm not sure, but I think that should get updated on a re-apply.  And the aura_apply and the spell_heal will maybe stay sync'd up better.
17:25.10Shothmm
17:25.14Shotmy svn commit is failing
17:25.26ulicShot: it should tell you why.
17:25.29CIA-4003funkydude * r70931 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add to blacklist
17:25.31vhaarrindeed it should
17:25.38vhaarrmake sure you  actually READ the output
17:25.43Josh_Borkeshot:the force tells me it should tell you why
17:25.43Shot"The version resource does not correspond to the resource within the transaction"
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17:26.20Zeksieupdate, recommit.
17:26.37NeoTronsuch an incredibly bad message
17:26.41vhaarryeah
17:26.49vhaarrit should just say "svn update and svn commit again"
17:26.56NeoTronhow about "Your working copy is out of date. Please update before proceeding."
17:27.07vhaarror that :P
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17:27.11Shotwhy would my working copy be out of date? :/
17:27.20vhaarrShot: did you change directory properties?
17:27.21NivFreaksomeone commited after you checked out? :P
17:27.38Shotvhaarr: not that i know of
17:27.52vhaarrShot: some operations require that your working copy have the HEAD revision number, for some reason
17:28.17vhaarrregardless of whether it has actually changed
17:28.29Shotshrugs, updates and commits
17:28.45CIA-4003Shot * r70932 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua:
17:28.45CIA-40DoIKnowYou:
17:28.45CIA-40- Data structure update
17:28.45CIA-40- Changed data so it is not saved as the current character you are on, but a "primary character" (not yet configurable)
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17:29.32luxusApoco: are you there?
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17:33.45balstorJosh_Borke thanks for that tip, my addon never climbs over .02% so i feel pretty good about it
17:34.30Josh_Borkebalstor: most uncomplicated addons won't
17:34.42ShotI really need to convince some people in my guild to download my addon, so I can test it with more than 2 accounts, and in proper use
17:35.24balstorlooks like my reformance hogs are flexbar, clearfont2 and recount
17:36.07balstorflecbar i can handle if cnc ever stays up late
17:36.31CIA-4003rabbit * r70933 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Use RRU to check for new people to promote.
17:36.39vhaarrsb, NeoTron: please test ^
17:36.50Gnarfoz~seen nymbia
17:36.54purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15d 17h 38m 56s ago, saying: 'Funkeh`: you better be checking over every line that gets committed'.
17:36.54Fisker-is saviour's grasp fucking sick or should i keep justicar for sockets? :P
17:37.05Gnarfozmeh
17:37.15Gnarfozwho knows about Tattle's dataminer?
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17:39.39NeoTronvhaarr: will tonight, at work now
17:39.53CIA-4003rabbit * r70934 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Promote people on enable, in case people load the module after being promoted to leader in a full raid.
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17:43.33Fisker-http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30904 <-awesome y/n?
17:43.55[SW]Dodgesome month ago i saw an addon for fast respeccing. where i can copy the number code of the wow talent planer and it will set the points ingame for me. someone know that addon? :)
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17:45.04Polarina[SW]Dodge: I heard Talented rules to some extend matching your description.
17:45.35Fisker-1,38 crit + 10 Healing +6 intellect -11 mp5 while casting
17:45.36[SW]Dodgeok ill look if i can find it :)
17:45.40Fisker-1,38% crit
17:45.46Fisker-you'd go with the first one right?
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17:49.47Fisker-think it was a pretty good choice actually
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17:51.50vhaarr~seen anadale
17:51.52purlanadale <n=Anadale@gemini3.actis.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 3h 6m 38s ago, saying: 'mitch0: Thank you very much'.
17:52.04CIA-4003Shot * r70935 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua:
17:52.04CIA-40DoIKnowYou:
17:52.04CIA-40- Nil check
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17:53.11Kolieckknight, lunch?
17:53.22Fisker-hmm Zeksie any easy way i can request a new talent query?
17:53.28ckknightKolie, we're in the same office, just talk to me
17:53.33KolieI am talking to you.
17:53.39Josh_Borke...
17:53.41Josh_Borkelol
17:54.41CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70936 10AutoBar/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
17:54.41CIA-40AutoBar:
17:54.41CIA-40- Update zhCN and zhTW localization.
17:54.43vhaarrI worked at a computer company for a few years and we were 8 people sitting around a huge table, we never talked face to face at the computers, only IRC
17:54.54sag_ich_nicht~lart Zeksie
17:54.54purlbeats Zeksie to within 2.54cm of his life
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17:56.14Zeksiewhat the hell are you doing with the templates sag_ich_nicht..
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17:57.33NeoTronckknight: why talk in RL when you can use irc/im to do it/ :P
17:58.45CIA-4003zeksie * r70937 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BlessingsManager/ZOMGBuffs_BlessingsManager.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Don't error out on broken templates.
17:59.12sag_ich_nicht~karma sag_ich_nicht
17:59.13purlsag_ich_nicht has neutral karma
17:59.36HjalteYou can't make smilies in real life. :)
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18:01.27sag_ich_nichtZeksie: i reset the SV file recently, remember? not my fault :P
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18:01.56balstorso i just instantly joined a raid, apparently the raid i was in 3 days ago when an instance server crashed, the raid leader logged intoday and the server recreated the raid, nice bug blizzard
18:02.15NivFreakyea
18:02.17NivFreakI've seen that before
18:02.19vhaarrbalstor: yeah happened to me last week
18:02.42balstorman that would be shitty if you were just going to finish a quest
18:02.51NivFreakyea
18:02.54NivFreakbut the chances are pretty low
18:03.21balstorfunny yo mention it, i was just fixing to charge a guardian for a daily quest
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18:03.33balstormy typeing skill are lite
18:03.39vhaarronly happens to raid groups where your instance server crashed and not everyone logged back after they came back up, I think
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18:03.46ZhinjioHeya NivFreak
18:03.54vhaarrwe were doing MH and one warlock didn't return after the servers came back (30 minutes or so), so we replaced him
18:04.04vhaarrthen when he logged in the day after, the raid group popped back
18:04.08Zeksiesag_ich_nicht: does that happen all the time? or what? cos it shouldn't happen with an intact template.
18:05.52sag_ich_nichtZeksie: i just clicked generate
18:05.56sag_ich_nichtand that's when it happened
18:07.01sag_ich_nichtloading a different template then the original one i was going to use fixes the problem
18:07.08sag_ich_nichtand i can generate fine then
18:07.50Zeksiesag_ich_nicht: yes. i know WHEN it happened... but i'm asking with WHAT did it happen with
18:08.47Zeksiequestion is, what cuases the broken template.. ie: if it happens again let me know, otherwise shoo or something ;)
18:09.11sag_ich_nichtas i said, i clicked generate :P
18:10.48CIA-4003ackis * r70938 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
18:10.49CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
18:10.49CIA-40- More hunter beast skills conversions (Dive and Dash converted)
18:10.49CIA-40- Removed unneeded localizations in all locals
18:10.49CIA-40- All dry-coded
18:11.01CIA-4003funkydude * r70939 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: tweak
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18:20.16CIA-4003kunda * r70940 10oRA2/ (22 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: deDE update
18:22.12Fisker-doesn't acidic wound apply on arcing smash on bloodboil?
18:22.19NeoTronyes
18:22.21PsychoAny melee attack.
18:22.31Fisker-...
18:22.50Fisker-to anyone it hits btw?
18:22.55PsychoYes.
18:22.58PsychoWhat'd your guild do now? =P
18:23.20NeoTronbalstor: that happened to us too. was really bizarre. as I logged on all of a sudden there were a bunch of people with me in a raid
18:23.45Fisker-palatank said he needed a mana battery
18:23.46NeoTronPsycho: put all melee in front of bloodboil to "share the damage" of the smash? :P
18:23.57PsychoOH GOD
18:24.01PsychoROGUE DEATH
18:24.01Fisker-warrior tank said it was ok since he should get hit by arcing smash
18:24.03Fisker-and i said noooes
18:24.48Fisker-btw
18:24.51PsychoThere are like eight levels of horrifying in that strat, I'm so glad you come here to #wowace and tell us about them.
18:24.52Fisker-one of the rogues from yesterday
18:25.37Fisker-told me that the dps was none of my business
18:25.38PsychoIt'll be your business when you hit Council's enrage timer since he's a boob.
18:25.41Psycho=P
18:25.46PsychoOR
18:25.47PsychoBetter yet
18:25.51PsychoYou guys killed RoS yet?
18:26.13Fisker-nope
18:26.17Fisker-not had the time yet
18:26.21Fisker-perhaps we might get to it today
18:26.22PsychoPhase 2 and 3 have some very strict DPS requirements.
18:26.36PsychoIt'll be interesting to see what you say after a few shots at it.
18:26.43balstorneotron the ninja raid maker
18:26.45NeoTronour most recent RoS kill was fun
18:27.01NeoTronat the start of phase 3 we had 5 dps dead
18:27.05NeoTronmsyelf included
18:27.16PsychoWe got P2 down about 15 seconds before OOM last time, I was really happy, that's the best we've done so far.
18:27.27NeoTronwe usually easily do that now
18:27.38PsychoYeah, it's getting a lot less stressful.
18:27.44PsychoMissed a deaden too though =P
18:27.47NeoTronthis time because some of the best dps players died in p2, we made the oom just in time
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18:28.04NeoTronbut we killed him with like 3-4 people left
18:28.07NeoTronor it
18:28.11NeoTronor her or whatever it is
18:28.37PsychoAnyway Fisker-, if you don't spit out some good DPS in phase 2, you'll wipe because your healers will be out of mana, and if you don't spit out some good DPS in phase 3, the raid damage will overwhelm you.
18:28.50PsychoSo it'll highlight the bad DPS in your raids very well.
18:29.24AckisWorkPsycho: you can go for about 30-45 seconds after mana is 0 in P2 if you play right
18:29.42PsychoI'm aware.
18:29.49PsychoEither way slow DPS will get people killed.
18:29.57sag_ich_nichtwe. just. wiped. on. supremus. the shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame :(
18:30.10sag_ich_nichthides
18:30.21Josh_Borkeline too long, please kick/ban :-P
18:30.44NeoTronsag_ich_nicht: I agree with the sentiment
18:31.01PsychoAnd even if you can manage to keep heals going for that 30-45 seconds, there's still the problems of relying on shield slams to remove rune shield, not having curse of tongues, and having mana-users not be able to DPS
18:32.30GnarfozFunkeh`: where to report stuff BadBoy misses?
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18:32.52Funkeh`forumz
18:33.28Fisker-cool Psycho
18:33.32Fisker-looking forward to it
18:33.59NeoTronPsycho: ah dood
18:34.02[SW]Dodge!ap 340
18:34.03NeoTronPsycho: felhunter!
18:34.13NeoTronjust resummon the felhunter while you still have mana
18:34.14PsychoFelhunter isn't affected by the aura?
18:34.16PsychoAh
18:34.18PsychoReset the aura
18:34.20NeoTronyep
18:34.23PsychoSuch a cheeseball way to do it =P
18:34.29CIA-4003archarodim * r70941 10Decursive/ (7 files):
18:34.29CIA-40Decursive:
18:34.29CIA-40- Removed all spell locals in non English localization files.
18:34.30NeoTronalso known as "smart"
18:34.35NeoTronfel hunter overall is by far the best method
18:34.36PsychoCheese.
18:34.38[SW]Dodge!points 340
18:34.38Xinhuan340 arena points require 1482(5s), 1538(3s) and 1587(2s) team rating.
18:34.42NeoTronsince you remove all reaction time issues
18:34.44PsychoNo, spellsteal is by far the best method.
18:35.03NeoTronexpensive mana, relies on human reaction times which can cause spirit shock to hit
18:35.07NeoTronso fel hunter = best
18:35.32PsychoI've never had a problem with it at all, and mages go OOM from the aura before they run out of mana from casts, and their DPS gets bumped way up, AND they're immune to damage with the shield on.
18:35.35CIA-4003ackis * r70942 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
18:35.35CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
18:35.35CIA-40- More hunter beast skills conversions (Fire Breath and Gore)
18:35.35CIA-40- Removed unneeded localizations in all locals
18:35.35CIA-40- All dry-coded
18:35.43NeoTronI know the benefit of stealing the shield but we found the reliability of a fel hunter to be far superior to the benefit of the shield on a amge
18:35.45PsychoAND you have to make a 21/40 warlock (me) give up 15% damage to keep a felhunter out.
18:36.13PsychoThat is, if you're in my raid.
18:36.23PsychoWe don't have an aff warlock.
18:36.33NeoTronaff locks wouldn't use a fel hunter anyway
18:36.40NeoTronbut yes I gave up 15% dmg
18:36.43PsychoSilly.
18:36.51NeoTronI'm the raid leader. it's not silly :P
18:37.00Fisker-Funkeh`
18:37.03NeoTronwe never had any real issue with dps there anyway.
18:37.09Fisker-where can i report my goldselling sites that i want whitelisted?
18:37.13Fisker-you're cutting down on my business
18:37.19PsychoWhy wouldn't you make an afflock do it if you had one?
18:37.21PsychoThey don't use pets.
18:37.28NeoTronthey do use pets
18:37.30NeoTronfor mana
18:37.39NeoTronand they provide health with the imp
18:37.40NeoTronplus
18:37.52NeoTrondest locks have instant (well 0.5s) resummoning of the pet which aff locks do not
18:38.03PsychoThat's a good point if you're cheesing it.
18:38.13PsychoForgot you'd have to resummon.
18:38.20NeoTronyou're saying that just because you didn't think about it yourself ;-)
18:38.33PsychoPeople told me about soulstoning paladins long before I got to RoS
18:38.47PsychoIt's just a cheeseball way to do Phase 2 when you don't have the DPS for it.
18:38.51PsychoIt's stupid.
18:39.03Funkeh`Fisker-, my paypal account
18:39.10NeoTronusally by the time you get to RoS for the first time you will not have sufficient dps
18:39.22NeoTronI'd say it's more common than not to run out of mana
18:39.40NeoTronso again using what the game provided is not cheesing it
18:40.20PsychoSure, we ran out of mana on our first two kills.
18:40.31PsychoDidn't use a felhunter, didn't have healers suicide.
18:40.47PsychoJust because something's in-game doesn't mean it's not a cheeseball way to do an encounter.
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18:42.06Fisker-anyone know how i can disable that small icon in the lower left corner with gridraiddebuff stuff?
18:42.44PsychoI would try to figure it out Fisker but the mental image of your melee all getting flattened by an arcing smash is keeping me occupied.
18:43.02NeoTroncheesing it is soulstoning everyone in the raid with l20 lock alts or using just paladins + shadow priests for healig (when pally + SP was infinite mana)
18:43.20Fisker-no Psycho
18:43.22Fisker-only the tanks :P
18:43.33Hobbyyou can't soulstone outside the raid =P
18:43.33PsychoOh, I thought you said they put melee up there too?
18:43.38NeoTronHobby: guess why?
18:44.03PsychoOh well, that makes it less funny =P
18:44.13NeoTronbecause one or a few of the top guilds soulstoned everyone in the raid for their first vashj kill(s)
18:44.19NeoTronand Blizzard nerfed it because of that
18:44.42NeoTronsame reason they nerfed a lot of the "world buffs" you can get
18:44.53Groktarthank god for nerfing world buffs
18:45.01ChompersFisker-: come play my character
18:45.02PsychoNeoTron: That was probably also back when Vashj mind controlled in p3 - they likely fixed the soulstone issue because they saw the potential for it to be exploitative, but they nerfed the snot out of Vashj
18:45.09Chompersi don't want to kill mh waves again :<
18:45.10NeoTronPsycho: that's correct
18:45.21balstorBlizzad API performance question, if i have a CreateFontString and i call SetText, does blizzard compress those calls so on update only displays on all does it try to execute all of them on an ONUpdate call?
18:45.22Psycho\o/
18:47.41Zhinjiolua> not false
18:47.42lua_botZhinjio: true
18:47.47Zhinjiolua not true
18:47.52Zhinjiolua< not true
18:47.55Zhinjiolua> not true
18:47.56lua_botZhinjio: false
18:48.19Snagobalstor: what?
18:48.36NeoTronlua> true or false and nil and true
18:48.36lua_botNeoTron: true
18:48.37NeoTronzomg
18:49.17NeoTronquestion is, can you put lua bot in an infinite loop?
18:49.24NeoTronand whose computer would it hose? :P
18:49.32SnagoNeoTron: Lua is lazy with boolean operators. Your first or will be true, so it don't test anything else
18:49.45CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70943 10Skinner/Localisations.lua:
18:49.45CIA-40Skinner:
18:49.45CIA-40- Update zhTW localization.
18:49.49NeoTronSnago: yeah I know
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18:49.56chdstThat's not just lua, that's pretty much the 'or' operator in most languages.
18:49.57balstorsnago i was wondering if i could save a lot of cpu time by compressing all SetText calls into one cal on my code side, or does the blizzard event processing in their API allready compresses the call so the screen update only has the latest on at the time the screen is repainted
18:50.09chdstIf the first of the 'or' is true, why proceed? You're just wasting cycles.
18:50.55NeoTronbalstor: what you're wondering is if you should call SetText multiple times in an OnUpdate?
18:51.01Fisker-no Chompers
18:51.19balstorchdst in some languages procede cause you can cause side effects through the or operator, this is common in certain embedded work and older languages
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18:52.26Snagochdst: I know some languages have a compiler option to not be lazy. For example if you did (SomeThingTrue() or DoSomethingAndReturnTrue())
18:52.27balstorneotron no should I remove all my calls to SetText and replace them with ine call in  onupdate or is the blizzard event q smart enough so i can have the calls scattered amongst my code.
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18:52.37chdstWhich is where the properly placed "most" comes into play in my statement. :)
18:53.17chdstAs always, there are exceptions, but this is a common enough tidbit that not scoping it specifically to lua may be worthwhile.
18:53.20balstori was answering the why part :P
18:53.44chdstAh, yes. Pardon my rhetorical question... :D
18:53.46Snagobalstor: You don't need to call SetText unless your text actually need to change
18:54.34balstortrue snago i agree but if i optimizing is it worth it to me to push the setext call into onupdate and pull it out of the rest of the code?
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18:55.05balstorahh my rhetorical question detector is broke today :(
18:55.21CIA-4003polarina * r70944 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc):
18:55.21CIA-40Relegation:
18:55.21CIA-40<PROTECTED>
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18:56.21SnagoIf you're optimizing I can't see how moving anything INTO OnUpdate would help
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18:57.21SnagoExcept maybe if it's to inline meaningless wrapper functions
18:57.36balstorcause blizzard repaints the screen on update and all my code has the onupdate routune fps limited,  also i would boolean each value so i would only call SetText when the value to be painted has changed.
18:58.53balstorbasically I would manually collapse all the settext events being sent to their display engine into one event. but, if their display engine is semi intelligent and collaspses events down so only the latest is actually display on a update, then the optimization isn't really worth it.
19:00.54Polarinabalstor: Go and measure the difference it yourself.
19:01.00Polarinas/it //
19:01.32PsychoDid I seriously just see someone sed their last line of chat?
19:01.40PsychoI think I just crossed into nerdvana.
19:01.55PolarinaPsycho: ?
19:01.56nevcairielyou seen that the first time here?
19:02.03balstorhmmm i can, was hopeing somone with a high update addon like recoun of graohlib knew, :(
19:02.06nevcairiels/here//
19:02.07PsychoThat's the first time I've seen that particular part of purl.
19:02.27PsychoIt was basically the best thing I can ever hope to view, including arts and crafts and the guitar.
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19:09.08JakeMAny Parrot users getting a one second pulse performance hit?
19:11.04PsychoNot me. 2.4-haxx0red Parrot has been working like a beaut ever since I grabbed it.
19:11.17JakeMhmm
19:11.31JakeMI've definitely narrowed it down to Parrot, but I can't figure out what's actually causing it.
19:12.01JakeMEven when I'm out of combat and just running around.  Every third step it just halts, just long enough to be noticable.
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19:19.07Diaohmm
19:19.10Diaodoes surfacecontrol no longer work?
19:19.55vhaarrno, because Funkeh` didn't fix it
19:20.09vhaarrhe changed bigwigs and violation to LSM3, but he didn't fix surfacecontrol
19:20.24XinhuanJakeM, do you have CPU Profiling enabled?
19:20.33Xinhuanif you do, disable it
19:20.46Xinhuanit is only for debugging purposes
19:21.00Xinhuanand will cause a split sec pause every 1 second for CPU profiling purposes
19:21.05Fisker-hmm
19:21.18Fisker-anyone know why transparency doesn't work in gridraiddebuffwhateverstatussomethingaddon?
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19:22.11Diao:(
19:23.10Fisker-awesome
19:23.14Fisker-doesn't show fel rage either
19:23.40JakeMXinhuan: I'm not finding an option for it in the Parrot config.
19:23.56XinhuanCPU Profiling is not part of parrot
19:24.03Xinhuanits usually enabled in PerformanceFu
19:24.11Xinhuanor a similar addon like UsageFu or OptionHouse
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19:29.01CIA-4003ackis * r70945 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
19:29.01CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
19:29.01CIA-40- More hunter beast skills conversions (3 more)
19:29.02CIA-40- Removed unneeded localizations in all locals
19:29.02CIA-40- All dry-coded
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19:31.20NeoTronI wonder, does anyone ever wet-code?
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19:31.30NeoTronis that when you code on a laptop while taking a bath?
19:31.52AckisWorklol
19:31.53ckknightno, it's when you test WoW after coding
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19:32.48CIA-4003funkydude * r70946 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add to blacklist
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19:37.57Thezanke`what command can you bind to a key to loot if you have your mouse over a deadp person
19:38.03Thezanke`like useoraction or something
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19:42.40Fisker-does ice armor replace other mage shields?
19:43.09stew_amage can only have one armor at a time
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19:44.30phyberso I'm in a kara fun run, and each time I hit 100% threat on Omen, I pull aggro.  is it being stupid and assuming I have the pally -30% threat thing when i don't?
19:45.43charonomen should take that into account. which versions do you and the tank run?
19:46.15phyberTank is running an older (but compatible) version, I'm running latest.
19:46.26phyberI know it should take it into account, but it appears not to be.
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19:47.42charonplease have the tank update, antiarc has fixed an issue with taunt. then, to check that BoS is working, do /dump LibStub("Threat-2.0"):GetModule("Player"):threatMods()
19:48.02charonthen compare that with what it should be, depending on class, talents etc
19:48.13phyberok, well, the other tank who it has also happened with, it running the latest.
19:49.35CIA-4003starinnia * r70947 10MobileVault/Frames.lua: MobileVault: Fix not being able to drag the frame
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19:50.45phyberhmm, i guess it's working ok here.  0.98 is my modifier, which would be my cloak.
19:51.10charonwith BoS?
19:51.23phyberno, I do NOT have BoS.  that's the issue :p
19:51.29charonoh, i see.
19:51.34phyberI have no BoS, I'm pulling aggro when I hit 100% instead of 130%
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19:51.56Elsiaheya
19:54.21charonphyber: perhaps some mobs retarget from time to time? or do you instantly get aggro the second you go past 100%? also, what kind of tanks, there have been rumors of omen underestimating warrior (and pala?)
19:55.34NeoTroncharon: wouldn't pulling aggro mean omen is overestimating tank threat?
19:56.06Hjalteneotron: Or underestimating your own
19:56.18phybercharon: no, they're not retargetting.
19:56.20charonNeoTron: oh right.
19:56.23phyberI was pulling Midnight, for example.
19:56.32phyberI'm ending up tanking them :p
19:56.39Fisker-is there a thread for gridstatusraiddebuff?
19:56.56phybercharon: also, it's a prot warrior
19:57.08Gnarfozone of our priests was pulling aggro on bloodboil yesterday, Omen said he was like, 18th in threat :\
19:57.11Chompersyay!
19:57.14Chompersfirst piece of t6
19:57.20Chompersfeels nice to replace gruul gear
19:57.31PsychoChompers
19:57.40PsychoWe did Hyjal for the first time last December.
19:57.41NivFreakgruul -> t6?
19:57.42NivFreakhehe
19:57.48PsychoI just got my frist piece of T6 last Sunday
19:57.52Chompers:<
19:57.59NeoTronPsycho: you must be a priest, warlock or paladin?
19:58.09NeoTronand I know you're a warlock but alas
19:58.12PsychoWarlock hat off Archimonde, NeoTron. Very good guess.
19:58.14NeoTronhalf our guild share one token
19:58.24NeoTronit's really dumb
19:58.51Arrowmasteronly 3pc, and i pass on the chest from illidan yesterday =(
19:58.55PsychoIt's not even that, it's that most of them were in such BAD PvE gear (I honestly have said to myself more than once "how the hell did we kill x bosses in BT geared like this")
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19:58.59charonGnarfoz: one explanation that immediately comes to mind is the totems bug... sometimes friendly totems appear on my threat lists which of course makes a huge difference for healing threat
19:59.13PsychoI mean, of course the huge amount of paladins, priests, and warlocks is a factor too
19:59.21PsychoBut sometimes I'm just like *sigh* take it.
19:59.37PsychoOf course, I've made off like a bandit in off-set stuff =P
19:59.41Gnarfozcharon: wasn't that fixed a while ago? you can't have threat on friednly targets at all, ever :\
19:59.49CIA-4003StiviS * r70948 10Cartographer_HeatMap/HeatMap.lua:
19:59.49CIA-40Cartographer_HeatMap:
19:59.49CIA-40- zhCN: mistake fixed
19:59.49CIA-40- RepositionOverlay() function: check added to fix nil value error
19:59.49CIA-40- OnEnable() function: wrong code commented
19:59.52PsychoI have leggings of channeled elements, chronicle of dark secrets, slippers of the seacaller, the bracers off shade
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20:00.17Gnarfozcharon: meaning, healing threat is equal (or divided amongst?) all enemy mobs, but not friendly players or even totems :\
20:00.21CIA-4003ackis * r70949 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
20:00.21CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
20:00.21CIA-40- All hunter skills converted. /cheer
20:00.21CIA-40- Removed unneeded localizations in all locals
20:00.22CIA-40- All dry-coded
20:00.28Fisker-why do i get a lot of "You are no the partyleader" spam? :(
20:00.30sb__vhaarr: do you maintain bw_commonauras
20:00.55sb__?
20:01.09charonGnarfoz: i thought we had it fixed by blocking SPELL_SUMMON but i saw some totems on my aoe threat lists the other day in MgT when everyone had newest
20:01.41charoni guess there is some other event that reports them as being hostile/neutral but i haven't found it yet
20:01.52Gnarfozcharon: still, even then, why would Threat (the lib) divided healing threat over friendly targets at all, be they totems or whatever
20:01.58Gnarfozah
20:01.59Gnarfozright
20:02.07Gnarfozit was a problem with their flags, not showing up as friendly
20:02.10charonyep
20:02.31Fisker-http://i26.tinypic.com/t5kw9w.jpg <-get it off me
20:02.49charonphyber: perhaps you could ask the warrior check his own threatMods()?
20:02.55phybercharon: about to :)
20:03.02Gnarfozcharon: but, wasn't the fix that was actually used the one that made it so that actors had to actually act to be added to the lists?
20:03.28charonno antiarc just blocked SPELL_SUMMON, so if other events have the same issue it will still happen
20:03.43Gnarfozexactly.
20:03.57Gnarfozif a totem heals, and that totem then has non-friendly flags, it would get added to the lists
20:04.20vhaarrsb__: yes, although Funkeh` has committed a few things since 2.4
20:04.22Fisker-http://i26.tinypic.com/t5kw9w.jpg <-HLAP
20:04.25charonif it appears _at all_ with non-friendly flags
20:04.45charonany source or destination fields with non-friendly flags are entered into the tables
20:04.51SinaloitAckis: When opening the hunter skills window it shows up on the far right side of the screen for some reason not attached to the beast training window
20:04.54sb__vhaarr: could you implement bloodlust/heroism timers as well? (druid innervate is already there)
20:05.00NivFreakhrmm
20:05.02sb__timer + cooldown
20:05.05vhaarrFisker-: err
20:05.06CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70950 10RBM/RBM/ModuleClasses/ (Base.lua Boss.lua): RBM: New: Option to play a sound when alerted.
20:05.09NivFreakso compared to the first 2 bosses in hyjal
20:05.17NivFreakhow are the first few BT bosses
20:05.17Fisker-;_;
20:05.20vhaarrFisker-: would you by chance be running the latest oRA2 revision?
20:05.27CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70951 10RBM/RBM_Config/Config.lua: RBM_Config: New: Option to add a sound when alerted.
20:05.27Fisker-yeah
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20:05.37vhaarrFisker-: can raid assistants promote other people to assistants?
20:05.41Fisker-no
20:05.43vhaarraha
20:05.43CIA-4003paene * r70952 10Cryolysis2/buttons/tooltip.lua:
20:05.43CIA-40Cryolysis2:
20:05.43CIA-40- Localization update (gem button tooltip)
20:05.46Fisker-that would be madness
20:05.48vhaarrFisker-: give me a second
20:05.58whizterhi
20:06.23Gnarfozcharon: yeah, that's what I'm getting at... the fix doesn't really prevent the problem. anyway, then his threat was maybe shown incorrectly because it was divided over more enemies than there were actually present...?
20:06.41charonduh
20:07.10CIA-4003rabbit * r70953 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: Leader/Invite: Don't try to promote people if we're just assistant.
20:07.11charoni think i see a potential problem, the "is this a party<->hostile action" check is asymmetric, which seems a bit fishy
20:07.17vhaarrFisker-: try that
20:07.19Fisker-yay
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20:07.25charonGnarfoz: sorry, that duh wasn't directed at you :)
20:07.29Fisker-though i don't even have it enabled
20:07.41Fisker-or
20:07.44Fisker-i do have some autopromotes set
20:08.22vhaarrsb__: that's not a bad idea
20:09.15CIA-4003polleke * r70954 10LibResComm-1.0/ (. LibResComm-1.0.lua LibResComm-1.0.toc lib.xml):
20:09.15CIA-40LibResComm-1.0: initial commit
20:09.15CIA-40- Keeps track of resurrection spells casted in your group/raid
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20:09.27Gnarfozcharon: yeah, I hadn't even seen it before you highlighted me ;) could you explain a little more about what you were saying regarding it being asymmetric (if that isn't too complicated)? I'm not all too deeply immersed in the inner workings of T2
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20:09.41Fisker-vhaarr is it possible to detect who made which and what change to a group?
20:09.44Gnarfozwell... doesn't oRA2 already do that ---^
20:09.48Sinaloit@vhaarr: Any chance to add an autopromote by guild rank?
20:09.49charonGnarfoz: diff upcoming
20:09.49Fisker-like if someone moves around in group composition?
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20:10.12vhaarrFisker-: it's not possible to detect who made the changes
20:10.15TinyboomPaene
20:10.19Fisker-damn
20:10.21nevcairielunless oRA starts to hook those functions
20:10.22vhaarrGnarfoz: do what?
20:10.24nevcairielbut thats ugly
20:10.30Fisker-yeah
20:10.32Gnarfozvhaarr: LibResComm-1.0 stuff
20:10.37vhaarrGnarfoz: yes it does
20:10.41durcynffs, why does that need a library
20:10.43Gnarfozfigures.
20:10.50vhaarrSinaloit: I dunno, I just added options to promote all guild members
20:10.52Gnarfozdurcyn: I'd say... it actually doesn't! :D
20:11.01PaeneTinyboom: sup?
20:11.04TinyboomPaene: cryo works nice now ;) but hope that lib is done soon so i can set without externals again:)
20:11.10vhaarrSinaloit: I think you could easily add class leaders/officers to the autopromote list
20:11.16Paenecool
20:11.25charonGnarfoz (perhaps nevcairiel/antiarc could double check): does http://ace.pastey.net/86261 look reasonable? if you look at ThreatClassModuleCore.lua, you'll see that the check immediately before those changes should be symmetric, but currently isn't
20:11.26Sinaloit@vhaarr: I can, we have some darn lazy officers though
20:11.34PaeneI'm working on the polymorph refresh issue, but my time is kinda limited atm
20:11.41Paenetons of final projects due
20:11.56charonGnarfoz: and by symmetric i mean, one should be a mirror copy of the other, except they have src<->dst swapped everywhere
20:11.57vhaarrPolleke: what's better with LibResComm-1.0 compared to oRA2's resurrection handling?
20:12.11Pollekevhaarr, standarization I would say
20:12.12vhaarrPolleke: you know oRA2 already transmit resurrection stuff on the addon channel
20:12.16Pollekevhaarr, I do
20:12.18TinyboomPaene: haven't had time to test polyblame though, will see tomorrow or this weekend:) work takes it's toll... great work no matter what;)
20:12.24vhaarrPolleke: CTRA uses the same comm protocol
20:12.32vhaarrPolleke: so I would say you're the one breaking the standard
20:12.36[Ammo]polleke trying to get is resscomm crap in ora again?
20:12.40PaeneTinyboom: thanks, just wait for Cryo3...planning has already begun
20:12.49vhaarr[Ammo]: don't know, but he just committed LibResComm-1.0
20:13.00TinyboomPaene: O.o more mage <3 :D:D:D
20:13.01Pollekevhaarr, every addon trying to recreate msg parsing is not needed
20:13.03Paeneit's gonna be for all classes
20:13.03Fisker-hmm
20:13.14Paeneand modular
20:13.15Fisker-doesn't threat handle insignificance?
20:13.15vhaarrPolleke: that's 2 lines of code
20:13.23Pollekevhaarr, it's not. It's about 200
20:13.31Fisker-or am i missing something?
20:13.32Arrowmasterif its 200 then you did it wrong
20:13.37NivFreakwtb 2.4.2
20:13.39Gnarfozcharon: uhhh I'm not quite sure I'm proficient enough to make any real judgement on that, I'd say - besides, if it's a diff, then why are you removing the "src" version? :>
20:13.40Pollekevhaarr, well not 200. But more than some trivial bit
20:13.42Fisker-~seen Antiarc
20:13.47purlantiarc is currently on #wowuidev (9h 25m 46s) #wowace (9h 25m 46s) #curseforge (9h 25m 46s), last said: 'Omen has never attempted to project others' threat. It only displays what it received from their installed copy of Threat-1.0/Threat-2.0 library.'.
20:13.47TinyboomPaene: let me know if you need a test subject ^^ and good night:)
20:13.50Sinaloitspeaking of oRA, hows oRA3 coming?
20:13.53Paenelater Tinyboom
20:13.55vhaarrPolleke: parsing the messages sent by oRA2/CTRA? Hardly.
20:14.19charonGnarfoz: unified diffs always remove the old version, then add the new one, so that people reading the diff can actually compare
20:14.36Pollekevhaarr, misread. Parsing is not no. But actually sending is yes
20:14.37charon(it's also a machine readable format that could automatically be applied to the file)
20:14.45NeoTronvhaarr: do you have an optin to promote all guild members of certaain rank(s)?
20:14.51vhaarrPolleke: but oRA2 and CTRA already does that
20:14.53vhaarrNeoTron: no
20:15.19Gnarfozcharon: right, but isn't it still asymmetrical this way? or am I missing something? there is no "mirror copy" of anything, it's just src exchanged for dst
20:15.20Pollekevhaarr, not everyone uses ora2. Plus this would allow easy integration into grid/sraidframes aswell
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20:15.35vhaarrPolleke: but most everyone uses either oRA2 OR CTRA
20:15.42vhaarrPolleke: and YOU are BREAKING the standard comm
20:15.50vhaarrmaking integrating stuff like this harder
20:15.56nevcairielcharon: sounds like you are right
20:15.59vhaarrsRF already supports oRA2/CTRA messages
20:16.15charonGnarfoz: open ThreatClassModuleCore.lua
20:16.25Gnarfozactually, no, someone having ora or ctra is pretty uncommon these days if you're not the either the addon nerd type or a raid leader/officer
20:16.26[Ammo]vhaarr: I explained that already, but he didn't listen shrug
20:16.36vhaarr[Ammo]: right, he's not listening now either
20:16.42pastamancerI don't use ora or ctra
20:16.47charonGnarfoz: you'll immediately see what i mean by "symmetric" if you look at the double if near the top of COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED
20:16.51charonnevcairiel: going to push that then
20:16.54vhaarrpastamancer: do you raid?
20:17.03pastamancerI do
20:17.13Pollekevhaarr, but ehmm. What would be against it? It makes lives easier for other addons.
20:17.25vhaarrPolleke: no it doesn't, since you're implementing a new protocol
20:17.29vhaarrfor some obscure reason
20:17.41GnarfozI do, too, not even all raid officers have it. :\ wouldn't it be easy to just implement the CTRA/oRA protocol stuff in Grid/$yourUnitframeOfChoice?
20:17.43CIA-4003charon * r70955 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: fix a potential issue with the hostile<->party action check
20:17.45NeoTronPolleke: if your library implemented the ora2/ctra protocol I can see that point
20:17.47charonnevcairiel: thanks for doublechecking :)
20:17.47vhaarrPolleke: how about just using the existing one, so that we don't have to implement 2 protocols in sRF/etc
20:17.53Pollekevhaarr, there is a problem at the moment with the way ora2 sends messages btw
20:17.59vhaarrPolleke: so fix it?
20:18.03durcynlistening for the existing comm prefix is easy, a lib is just pointless overhead at this point
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20:18.21Pollekevhaarr, it is sending on SPELL_SENT. Causing CastingInfo to return false
20:18.53vhaarrpastamancer: I don't understand how you can not see the advantage in using oRA2 or CTRA
20:19.25Silviu-vhaarr i do raid also, and don`t use any ora2/ctraid/grod/srf etc things ;p
20:19.30pastamancervhaarr: what would I need from either of those?  MT frames?
20:19.34Silviu-grid*
20:19.40vhaarrPolleke: look, the problem with your library is that it uses a different communication protocol than oRA2/CTRA, could you please just fix that and then they could all work happily together?
20:19.47NeoTronpastamancer: for example
20:19.48Arrowmasterisnt the ora comm changing with ora3 though
20:19.56nevcairielArrowmaster: yes it is
20:20.02Gnarfozcharon: ah, had a look at the actual file, now I see it. :) the diff didn't help much because I didn't know the code above ;>
20:20.07NeoTrona lib isn't a bad idea
20:20.27NeoTronit can, for example, support both ora2/ctrt and ora3...
20:20.28charonGnarfoz: yeah sorry, should have said that more clearly :)
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20:20.39NeoTronbut making it use it's own protocol seems unnecessary
20:21.13vhaarrpastamancer: well I use MT frames, item checks, auto invite functions, promote functions, durability checks and the cooldown monitor
20:21.35durcynNeoTron: libs for trivially small code are pointless indeed
20:21.43pastamancervhaarr: yeah, I don't feel the need for any of those.  I'm not a raid leader
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20:21.48vhaarrah
20:21.50vhaarrI am
20:22.03vhaarrpastamancer: but in order for those to work, my raid members have to have either oRA2 or CTRA
20:22.08vhaarrso they all use it
20:22.13vhaarrsome use CTRA still
20:22.20vhaarrso I'm not in favor of breaking any protocols
20:22.21NeoTrondurcyn: ora3
20:22.29NeoTrondurcyn: suddently every addon has to support two protocols?
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20:22.43vhaarrPolleke: could you please respond
20:22.46charonalso, i think the totem flags are more thoroughly broken
20:22.47NeoTrondurcyn: that's when a lib actually makes sense
20:22.50Pollekevhaarr, I'm thinking
20:23.03durcynNeoTron: ora3 shouldn't break the protocol either.  
20:23.10charonSPELL_PERIODIC_ENERGIZE,..,"Mana Spring Totem V",0xa28,..,"Synonym",0x514,25569,"Mana Spring",...
20:23.12charontrue story.
20:23.13[Ammo]durcyn: it currently does
20:23.22NeoTronpastamancer: as a raid leader I require people to have ora installed due to the things vhaarr  mentioned
20:23.22nevcairieloRA3 will break protocol, because the old CTRA protocol sucks :P
20:23.27pastamancervhaarr: we're not super serious, 3/5 TK 3/? SSC, 1/? hyjal
20:23.29[Ammo]yep
20:23.36Xinhuani think less than 5 people in my guild uses CT_RA or ORA, so i'll say its pretty uncommon
20:23.47nevcairielwe just force it on everyone
20:23.47vhaarrpastamancer: indeed, I understand, I'm just saying I find it very useful
20:23.57Xinhuanand a bit of a stretch to say ctra/ora's communication is a "standard"
20:24.01NivFreakWe also require oRA2
20:24.18vhaarrXinhuan: standard schmandard, you know what I mean
20:24.36NeoTronXinhuan: it is rather widespread - of course there are exceptions
20:24.36Xinhuanso which other frames use this standard besides ctra/ora?
20:24.43pastamancerI'd like rez monitoring independant of ora/ctra.  On the hyjal trash we were just coordinating it over vent though
20:24.45NeoTronbut as a raid leader I hate it when ppl don't have it installed
20:24.52NeoTronXinhuan: x-perl for example
20:25.04NeoTronwhich seems to be one of the most common unit frames in my raid
20:25.33Xinhuanthat's true, a good 1/3 of my guild uses xperl raid frames, the rest use grid and that 1 or 2 use ctra/ora
20:25.44NeoTronora is not raid frames
20:25.53NeoTronit has mt frames but that's it
20:25.54Polarin1I use FrameXML.
20:26.02Xinhuanits still frames of some sort
20:26.12Chompersyou can use ora2 as raid frames?
20:26.12NeoTronnot really
20:26.15Chompersgood god :o
20:26.16PollekeWell. The main thing I think at the moment is that resurection communication needs to improve
20:26.35NeoTronXinhuan: main tank frames ~= raid frames
20:26.36phyberChompers: it has MT frames
20:26.47Hakkersmartres ftw
20:26.48Chompersthey're not raid frames though
20:26.59Xinhuanammo has a point though Polleke, what does your lib have that is better than the current "standard" in use?
20:27.22CIA-4003ackis * r70956 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
20:27.22CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
20:27.22CIA-40- All beasts are localized now.
20:27.22CIA-40- Duplications removed from localizations
20:27.22CIA-40- All dry-coded
20:27.22durcynXinhuan: it's also available in mauve, you see.
20:27.59PollekeXinhuan, it sends out messages. It not only receives them. It's a non trivial ammount of code, that not a random unit frame would implent. Hence a library
20:28.13Sinaloit@[Ammo]: is there a timeline for oRA3?
20:28.20PollekeXinhuan, the communication standard is ofcourse because we don't want to break CTRA compability
20:28.28PollekeXinhuan, I see no other reason
20:28.43Fisker-yay Psycho
20:28.46Fisker-bloodboil down :D
20:28.47Zeksieping Elsia
20:28.47[Ammo]Sinaloit: nope, but I'm thinking about releasing the readycheck enhancing that's in there as a separate addon
20:28.48Fisker-again :P
20:28.53[Ammo]since that's all I use from it atm :)
20:28.53Elsiapong
20:28.53Xinhuanso does your lib conform to ctra standard?
20:28.59PollekeXinhuan, no
20:29.06ZeksieElsia: just did a report mana gained to a channel, and it started spamming my chat window with recount versions.
20:29.09dylanmWouldn't that be the best thing to do?
20:29.12Zeksieewww. still doing it after a reload
20:29.13Xinhuanwhy would you not make it conform then?
20:29.16Zeksieevery 1 sec
20:29.18Elsiahmm
20:29.19Zeksieshows all versions
20:29.41PollekeXinhuan, I don't think there is not a reason not to. So yeh
20:30.02NeoTronPolleke: so what is the non-trivial code in the lib?
20:30.04Xinhuanwhich means you will modify it to conform?
20:30.10ElsiaZeksie: how exactly did you do the report? Using the trumpet icon or another way?
20:30.10Zeksiecan't turn it off :|
20:30.16Zeksietrumpet
20:30.22Xinhuansince a double not in your sentence cancels each other out
20:30.47Xinhuanor confuses your meaning
20:30.51ElsiaZeksie: i'll check it out, very odd bug
20:31.14Zeksieyeah. gonna have to kill recount atm. can't see any raid chat ;)
20:31.21Zeksiestill doing it after /rl
20:31.23PollekeNeoTron, ehmm. Hold on. Guild has illidan on 6%, first time
20:31.49NeoTronlol @ discussing addons while learning illidan
20:31.58vhaarrPolleke: even if you change the library to conform, there's a few other things I want changed
20:32.32Pollekeand down!
20:32.39vhaarrgrats
20:32.46Esinehey is there any library available that could get the stats of an item? not just theenchants and whatnot but I mean the base stats of an item
20:32.59EsineINCLUDING the base stats and also enchants and others combined :p
20:33.10XinhuanLibItemBonus-2.0
20:33.18Diaowtb update for surfacecontrol :<
20:33.22EsineXinhuan, so it gets the non-enchant stuff too?
20:33.27ZeksieElsia: oh. on another note: feature request. ctrl and alt click on the Totals bar to bring up overview/dps graphs for everyone. and make a keybinding thing for those 2 ;)
20:33.28XinhuanStatLogic-1.0 is another one, but its not very reliable these days
20:33.35Esinethe description was very vague I couldn't figure out what it does exactyl
20:33.45Xinhuanit does exactly what you described
20:33.46vhaarrDiao: I've already slapped Funkeh` about it, so now it's your turn
20:33.51EsineXinhuan, good.
20:33.51Esinethanks
20:34.03Diaohaha
20:34.04Esineoh, can I use an ace2 library with no problems with an ace3 addon?
20:34.08ElsiaZeksie: I'll put it on the list
20:34.13Zeksie:)
20:34.17Xinhuanthat library is not an ace2 library
20:34.22Esineoh cool
20:34.29Fisker-btw vhaarr
20:34.31Fisker-scary
20:34.39NeoTronEsine: but to answer your question yes you can. however you will then depend on both ace2 and ace3..
20:34.43Fisker-we died because "omen bugged"
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20:35.04vhaarrand you're telling me so I can get a good giggle out of it? :P
20:35.06Fisker-i.e. they didn't understand that bloodboill did a threat dump, and just thought it was ok to stay just underneath the top tank
20:35.07Fisker-:D
20:35.16vhaarrhehe
20:35.28Pollekevhaarr, what is you want to change?
20:35.38Zeksieoh.. and BigWigs.. can it do a health bar combo display for Kalecgos? or is there a module for that already?
20:35.48CIA-4003gamefaq * r70957 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Typo Fix
20:35.50vhaarrPolleke: first of all, get rid of the version checking code alltogether, I don't see why it needs that
20:36.01vhaarrPolleke: second, GetSpellInfo for the res spells to get the translated names
20:36.13vhaarrPolleke: third, remove CallbackHandler completely
20:36.21Pollekevhaarr, yeh l9n is on todo list
20:36.25vhaarrPolleke: fourth, |if not isResser then return end| at the top
20:36.47pastamancernon-rezzers could concievably want to watch rezzes
20:36.53vhaarrpastamancer: and they will
20:36.55Pollekevhaarr, what pastamancer says
20:36.56Xinhuani haven't looked at your library yet for library upgrade path issues, but most libs i've looked at fail to upgrade properly
20:36.59Zeksievhaarr: problem with that is, UnitClass will not always give good results on login
20:37.10Zeksie1 in 50 times you'll get a nil for self
20:37.22vhaarrpastamancer: they don't need the library implementation running though, it only registers resses and sends them to the addon channel
20:37.27XinhuanUnitClass is reliable on login now Zeksie
20:37.31Xinhuanfor "player" that is
20:37.33vhaarrthey just need the unit frame addon to listen for the addon messages
20:37.37Zeksiethat was UnitName i beleive
20:37.44vhaarrPolleke: fifth, get the event handlers out of the library scope
20:37.46NeoTronZeksie: in theory... MagicTargets will
20:37.47Xinhuanpatch notes says unitclass is reliable now as well
20:37.48pastamancervhaarr: oh, it doesn't listen to C_M_A and forward it to callbacks?
20:37.52NeoTronbut I haven't tested it yet :P
20:38.00pastamancerI haven't finished looking at it yet
20:38.10vhaarrpastamancer: probably, but I don't see why it should do that, the addons can easily listen for the addon events themselves
20:38.18Pollekevhaarr, no thats the whole point. They would want to listen to ResComm_ResStart. And not parse addon messages
20:38.23vhaarrpastamancer: addons already do that, you see
20:38.25Zeksiei had plenty of problems with that over last couple of months with ZOMG. so had to do extra check after entering world. it still happens as far as i know
20:38.27vhaarrsRF, XPerl, etc
20:38.39vhaarrpastamancer: and these callbacks just add CallbackHandler to the list of deps for no reason
20:38.50Xinhuanhmm maybe not
20:39.04Pollekevhaarr, I think that worked wonderfull for libhealcomm
20:39.13pastamancervhaarr: honestly, I don't want to have to write a parser for every single comm message I'm interested in receiving... libhealcomm for example
20:39.14vhaarrPolleke: I don't know what libhealcomm does or how it does it
20:39.18NeoTronZeksie: MT should show all player's targets but I dunno if the weirdness of Kalecgos breaks it
20:39.22NeoTronbut I will know tonight
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20:39.54pastamancerI don't want to have to worry about the implementation.  That's why it's in a lib.
20:39.57Zeksiewierdness does break it
20:40.03Zeksiethey're not IsVisible
20:40.33vhaarrfine, leave the callbackhandler crap in then
20:41.36pastamanceris the worldframe hook really necessary given SPELL_CAST_SENT?
20:41.55Pollekepastamancer, if a unit released you wont get a target from SENT
20:42.03pastamancerah, ok
20:42.03Pollekepastamancer, so you have to parse the tooltip
20:42.05Fisker-first visit to RoS :o
20:42.24PsychoHave fun.
20:42.34PollekeWhy would the event handlers be out of the scope?
20:42.54Hjalte2% wipe on Illidan. I feel sad :(
20:42.59Hjalte(never killed him)
20:43.13Zeksieouch :)
20:43.24HjalteAnd raid over in 20 minutes
20:43.27Pollekehehe we just killed them first time 10m a go :))
20:43.36ZeksieIllidan had a 2% wipe to us last time, 1 rogue and 1 healer left standing
20:43.37Pollekes/them/him
20:44.27pastamancerI don't think it needs version checking, but it should send and receive the ctra and ora protocol
20:44.48pastamancerand it should disable sending if ctra or ora is installed
20:45.11Pollekeyeh I'll get those things in
20:45.42pastamancerlet me know when it's finished
20:46.16Fisker-~havesexwith Antiarc
20:46.19Fisker-damn
20:46.24Fisker-purl is inflexible
20:47.21charonif i assign to the name of a parameter, that will overwrite the parameter, not make a global, right?
20:48.16Pollekeehmm regarding l10n pastamancer. How do I correctly copy over Korean/Chinese text?
20:48.33pastamancerPolleke: get a text editor that doesn't suck
20:48.41AckisWorklol
20:49.16pastamanceror just create a placeholder and let the asians do it themselves
20:49.17PollekeI have one that doesnt suck. But I'm still a bit worried it will break
20:49.32pastamanceras long as it's utf8 it'll be fine
20:50.03Fisker-is the secret passage down to bloodboil closed when you haven't killed him? :P
20:50.13Pollekeyes
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20:50.24Fisker-aww
20:50.29Gnarfozanyone around that knows the Tattle parser a bit more intimately? it seems horribly broken somehow.
20:50.44Zeksiemleh. MagicTargets externals is incomplete.. missing LibBars-1.0 download
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20:52.05CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
20:52.05CIA-40- Removal of duplicate mobs
20:52.05CIA-40- All dry-coded
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20:53.33CIA-4003rabbit * r70959 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Add Bloodlust and Heroism.
20:53.42vhaarrsb__: try now
20:53.50sb__ty
20:54.00vhaarrPolleke: what do you need l10n for?
20:54.12Pollekevhaarr, the stupid "Corpse of ..."
20:54.16pastamancerthe same thing ora needs it for: corpse tooltips
20:54.19vhaarrright
20:54.45Bruners24 man illidan and glaive drop \o/
20:54.57vhaarrBruners: go say that in the nihilum channel
20:55.11Hydrogenand the 25th person that got d/c'd had the other glaive, correct?
20:55.39Brunersthe 25 person d/c ed two tries ago and was a warlock :P
20:56.10vhaarrwell warlocks can use swords, right?
20:56.18vhaarrjust too bad it's class specific
20:57.09Pollekealso ora2 is sending its "res completed" message by checking the "accept res" box. Whats the reason for that?
20:57.21Pollekewhy not just check SPELL_SUCCESFULL
20:57.51vhaarrPolleke: just to make sure there are no hanging resses in progress, I guess
20:57.59Lukianbecause it only has one 'L'? :)
20:58.10Pollekeo.O
20:58.15vhaarrPolleke: you have to remember that both this protocol and the code was written a LONG time ago
20:58.28Xinhuan3 :D
20:58.28vhaarrPolleke: when we couldn't even dream of the things that are possible now
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20:58.31NeoTronZeksie: it's because libbars isn't on trunk - you need to get the externals embedded
20:58.37Xinhuan3 :D
20:58.53Brunersvhaarr: why should i say that in teir channel ?
20:59.06NeoTronZeksie: to be clear, the externals ARE set up correctly but when unembedding wau fails to find libbars
20:59.16Lukian3 what Xinhuan ? :o
20:59.23vhaarrBruners: because despite the fact that they killed him as the first guild in the world and has cleared it every week since then, they have yet to see ONE glaive drop
20:59.36NivFreakvhaarr: wow
20:59.38Xinhuan3 Ls
20:59.40vhaarrindeed
20:59.40Brunersvhaarr: aww, thats sad
20:59.46NivFreakvhaarr: not a single one?
20:59.51vhaarrnot a single one
20:59.55NivFreakRNG ftl
21:00.02Brunersvhaarr: this is our third, one set
21:00.18NeoTronRNG is indeed fail
21:00.19LukianXinhuan, haha good call :)
21:00.27NeoTronwe have one drop after 4.5 months of farming or so
21:00.28Brunershad server first with one set
21:00.57AckisWorkBruners, what server are you on?
21:01.05BrunersEmerald Dream eu
21:01.12NeoTronZeksie: also libbars has an issue where it doesn't hide bars that are removed.. I should just fix that I guess
21:01.15AckisWorkahh
21:01.16Brunerspoor server progression wise
21:01.43Brunersonly 2 guilds horde side that has killed kael :P
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21:03.46ZeksieNeoTron: ok
21:04.17charonThreat-2.0 totems fix: http://ace.pastey.net/86264 ... any thoughts? otherwise i'll push after the usual "does it load" check, it's a bit hard to "actually" test
21:04.31CIA-4003elsia * r70960 10Recount/Fights.lua:
21:04.31CIA-40Recount:
21:04.31CIA-40- Cleanup and bug fix for fight data storing switch.
21:04.39balstorViking metal band Helheim on performing in front of a Norwegian kindergarten class: "We need to let metal and Odin catch the kids before Jesus does"
21:05.06NivFreakwtb single 9 class tier tokens
21:05.07NivFreakpst
21:05.32NivFreakwe've had 9 t5 tokens for paladin/rogue/shaman drop in a row...
21:05.34ChompersElsia: will that fix the weird 1 second lag spike when out of combat?
21:05.49ElsiaChompers: never heard of a 1 second lag spike :P
21:06.06Chompersit varies
21:06.06NivFreakyea...
21:06.10NivFreakI hate that shit
21:06.14Chomperssometimes out of combat, sometimes during
21:06.23NivFreakthere's a number of things that seem to do it
21:06.25BrunersOmen was not working to good on phase 2 illidan today
21:06.30HjalteElsia: Not that I've experienced, but could it lag for Chompers because of the sync after the fight?
21:06.32NivFreakI actually suspect oRA2 as root cause
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21:07.04Chompersokay...
21:07.09Elsiawell if it lags mid-combat too then that cannot be it... and recount's after combat sync is very data light, I mean order of magnitude below threat-2.0
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21:07.12Chompersomen does a version query and wow freezes
21:09.58charoni've seen a very strange issue where _something_ calls Omen:VersionCheck() out of the blue sky whenever one of the event handlers i'm hacking on errors
21:10.24CIA-4003neotron 07LibBars-1.0 * r70961 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua:
21:10.24CIA-40LibBars-1.0:
21:10.24CIA-40- Hide() bar when recycling (removing) it and Show() it when reusing.
21:10.24CIA-40- Added barListPrototype:IsLocked() method to query locked status.
21:10.59charonperhaps those are in some way related?
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21:12.00balstoris this a sscam someone invites my alt to a guild gpromotes me then logs off
21:12.15Pollekepastamancer, ehmm after setting externals, should I commit?
21:13.21charonChompers: if it's reproducible, please try with BugGrabber turned off
21:13.26Hjaltebalstor: Maybe someone is very lonely, and extremely shy?
21:13.29vhaarrPolleke: you can commit your changes any time you want, you don't have to do it right after setting externals - you can wait until you have done more work
21:13.30pastamancerPolleke: yes, property changes don't make it to the repo without a commit
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21:13.40vhaarrbalstor: to guild leader?
21:13.56balstoryhea gleadr, i just checked they have gquit
21:14.04vhaarrsimple then
21:14.08balstorso i have a crappy named guild now
21:14.14Krittersounds like they didn't know how to /gdisband
21:14.18Pollekeok, thanks vhaarr and pastamancer
21:14.21vhaarryou can only promote someone who is online to guild leader
21:14.26balstorwow fairly sad
21:14.32vhaarrah there's noone else in the guild
21:14.37vhaarrthen simply disband indeed :P
21:14.38Xinhuangrats on free gbank storage space
21:15.02balstorgot to be a way i can make a gold off this
21:15.19vhaarrwell like Xinhuan says, check if there is a GB :P
21:16.07Silviu-vhaarr can u add an whisper message to the person getting an Conflag in Twin Emps fight ? ( Sunwell ) ;)
21:16.30vhaarrSilviu-: why, are they able to move with it?
21:16.38Silviu-No ideea :(
21:16.42Xinhuanif that gets added, add a whisper for Burn on brutallus too, thx
21:16.51vhaarrconflag typically means you can't move
21:16.56vhaarrwhisper on burn sounds like a good idea though
21:17.10durcynconflag has a cast time, the target has to run so they don't kill the raid
21:17.36vhaarrFunkeh`: I'll fix that if you fix your fucking LSM3 mess
21:17.43Silviu-vhaarr, u know before u get conflaged that it will hit u, but some don`t read raidwarnings ;p and u have ~ 2 sec to move away from the raid
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21:18.56vhaarrXinhuan: I haven't done brutallus yet, why does the bossmod warn when burn was resisted?
21:19.00charonvhaarr: you're the BugGrabber dev, right?
21:19.04vhaarryes
21:19.09Xinhuani don't know
21:19.16Xinhuanif its resisted, its a good thing basically
21:19.20vhaarrindeed
21:19.22vhaarrI'll remove that
21:19.27raylucould someone tell me what allows you to arrange your UI into rectangles at the bottom like this? http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g163/Excise/1.jpg
21:19.31sag_ich_nichtuhm
21:19.32sag_ich_nichtdon't
21:19.36Xinhuanboss casts a burn every 30 secs or so
21:19.39vhaarrexplain
21:19.40charonvhaarr: while developing omen, i have this strange problem where any error within omen will call Omen:VersionCheck() (don't ask me how or why)
21:19.41sag_ich_nichtit's probably there for tank aranging
21:19.48Funkeh`WHY would you need a whisper for twins
21:19.50Silviu-vhaarr i think u should let resist message in, it`s quite nice to know ..
21:19.54sag_ich_nichtor general raid positioning
21:19.59Funkeh`you have flash and shake and an icon over your head
21:20.00charonvhaarr: that goes away if i downgrade buggrabber to 66630
21:20.13vhaarrcharon: aha
21:20.14Funkeh`you don't need whispers I hate the very being of whispers
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21:20.33vhaarrFunkeh`: whispers are for people who don't run boss mods
21:20.34charonvhaarr: oh wait, i wasn't updated all the way, i'll try again
21:20.45vhaarrcharon: no need, buggrabber is the cause of it
21:20.54Funkeh`vhaarr, that's their own damn fault for being so cocky and thinking they can play without them
21:20.58Silviu-Funkeh` aparently some in my raid need whispers to move when they will get an conflag :P or at least some said would be easyer for them
21:20.59Silviu-:)
21:20.59vhaarrhehe
21:21.06vhaarrFunkeh`: LSM3 FIX
21:21.10CIA-4003ackis * r70962 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BeastTrain.lua:
21:21.10CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
21:21.10CIA-40- All duplicate mobs removed, feel free to localize.
21:21.10CIA-40- All dry-coded
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21:21.11Funkeh`?
21:21.21charonvhaarr: on buggrabber i mean. unless you know that neither one of the last two commits fixed that
21:21.26vhaarrbugsack, !surfacecontrol and oRA2
21:21.30Funkeh`Silviu-, tell them to turn on flash and shacke
21:21.33AckisWorkFunkeh' there are bad players in this game... i had the same request for you a few weeks ago :P
21:21.41AckisWorkflash/shake = win
21:21.46Silviu-Funkeh`, not a bad ideea ! :D
21:21.51Xinhuanflash and shake should be ON by default, not off
21:21.52vhaarrcharon: I know that buggrabber would case the bug you describe
21:22.02vhaarrcause*
21:22.04Xinhuanmost people don't even know flash-n-shake exists
21:22.21NivFreakI still want to be able to query people for their flash and shake setting :)
21:22.27vhaarrXinhuan: and hence they won't know why it happens when it does, so the flash and shake won't help
21:22.30Silviu-True, and most people won`t even know how to configure BigWigs .. or any other mods ;p
21:22.48vhaarrunless the raid leader explains it, I guess
21:22.59Funkeh`I'd rather people know what they turn on and why it does it, rather than their screen suddenly flashing and being like wtf
21:23.04Silviu-The bad thing is that the raidlead don`t know so good eighter .. :P
21:23.04vhaarrright
21:23.26NivFreakFunkeh`: I'm with you on that, I just want to know who to tell about it :)
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21:23.29Xinhuani'll rather people know something is on right away, so they will know to disable it
21:23.44vhaarrXinhuan: but they won't know what it is or what caused it
21:23.48Xinhuanthan for them to discover that something exists that can be turned on 2 months later
21:23.48vhaarror why it happened
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21:23.57CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70963 10Hourglass/ (core.lua embeds.xml): add LSM3 callbacks
21:24.04charonvhaarr: some more testing says: the bug appeared in r70813 and is still in trunk
21:24.13vhaarrcharon: I already told you :P
21:24.17vhaarrcharon: no need to test
21:24.20Silviu-And another bad thing is that he does not update his mods, only when a lot flame him for not updating Omen for example ^^, so the rest won`t do eighter since raidleader won`t demand so :P . Some are like "don`t change a running system" in my raid :)
21:24.43sag_ich_nichti hate that sentence
21:24.48sag_ich_nichtit's wrong on so many levels
21:24.50[SW]Dodgesomeone know how to make fubar transparent? ther is a texture called "none" but it is black :(
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21:24.55Silviu-Which one ? ;)
21:25.03sag_ich_nicht"never change a running system"
21:25.09Silviu-Ah :)
21:25.24sag_ich_nichtprotip: if your system has a security vulnerability, it might be running YET, but it won't for much longer
21:25.25sag_ich_nicht><
21:25.29vhaarrcharon: give me the error again
21:25.35sag_ich_nichtsame for instability/inaccuracy issues
21:25.52Silviu-i know sag_ich_nicht, but aparently some in my guild don`t ;p
21:25.58charonthere is no error. it simply calls Omen:VersionCheck() from within any Omen event handler
21:26.14charonlike 109 times in a row, then spam protection probably kicks in
21:26.28vhaarrcharon: it only does that when an error has occured
21:26.30charonyes
21:26.33vhaarrcharon: so what is that error
21:26.39Kebinusanwoohoo Got an AOC beta key from curse
21:27.28charonvhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/86265 for example (paste taken from r66630)
21:28.02vhaarrcharon: does :VersionCheck output anything by default, or return anything?
21:28.53charonvhaarr: Omen:VersionCheck()? does lots of Omen:Print(). what are the lua return semantics, return the last evaluated expression? it does not have an explicit return
21:29.06vhaarrright
21:30.11charonah, it returns nothing unless explicitly told so. so it doesn't return any values.
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21:31.04wereHamsteranyone going by the name 'claudio' here?
21:31.30AntiarcIf there is no return, then lua returns no value, IIRC
21:31.31Xinhuan~seen claudio
21:31.38purlclaudio <n=Elive_us@189.187.24.140> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 252d 18h 52m 20s ago, saying: 'ahora soy claudio'.
21:31.38AntiarcWhich is different from returning nil
21:31.47Xinhuanantiarc, pm
21:31.51Antiarc(ie, return nil pushes nil onto the stack, return or no explicit return pushes nothing onto the stack)
21:31.57AntiarcXinhuan: I don't have any PMs...
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21:32.15CIA-4003rabbit * r70964 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: Don't invoke any functions when checking the version just scan for properties.
21:32.19vhaarrcharon: should work now
21:32.49charonvhaarr: thanks
21:32.52charonAntiarc: <charon> Threat-2.0 totems fix: http://ace.pastey.net/86264 ... any thoughts? otherwise i'll push after the usual "does it load" check, it's a bit hard to "actually" test
21:33.15p3limif you try to contact me, please do so through a PM, my log on irc exceeds at 200 lines
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21:39.04charonvhaarr: confirmed fixed. thanks again
21:40.49CIA-4003Ganders * r70965 10NinjaPoints/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
21:40.49CIA-40NinjaPoints: initial commit
21:40.49CIA-40- Spiced up combo point counter for rogues and druids
21:41.06CIA-4003jerry * r70966 10LibItemBonus-2.0/LibItemBonus-2.0/core.lua: LibItemBonus-2.0: fix WEAPON_SPEED bonus, thanks Lerkur
21:42.55[Liquidor]Lol guys checkout this vid :P a guy was trapped in an elevator for 41 hours rofl http://front.xstream.dk/eb/customers/eb/mediamaker_player.php?id=13594
21:44.26Xinhuancharon, you're in queue, i have Antiarc's attention first, with a Threat-2.0 lib upgrading path issue ;p
21:44.46CIA-4003archarodim * r70967 10Decursive/ (10 files):
21:44.46CIA-40Decursive:
21:44.46CIA-40- It's now possible to set the color of the chronometers.
21:46.24Antiarccharon: It seems like we should just check for a friendly destination for periodic heal/energize
21:46.32AntiarcBecause a hostile can't heal a friendly
21:47.14vhaarrcharon: thanks for confirming
21:47.50charonAntiarc: i have an actual combat log of this happening. i figured since the flags come in wrong, i might as well patch them so the threat will be counted correctly further down, rather than just discard the event
21:47.55vhaarr[Liquidor]: I'm surprised he didn't jerk off during that time
21:48.04charonthen again, those are usually very small amounts
21:48.37vhaarrI mean, what else is there to do when you're trapped in an elevator for 2 days
21:48.46dylanmPRAY
21:49.03Antiarchrm.
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21:49.15AntiarcI just really dislike a compiled list of totem IDs :/
21:49.17xyuNeoTron:  you here?  did you get my error from earlier?
21:51.15charonAntiarc: valid point of course. and really, who gives a damn about the threat a totem has...
21:51.37AntiarcTotems can't exactly manage their threat anyhow
21:51.41AntiarcSo why bother synching it? :P
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21:52.03vhaarrtotem threat is assigned to the totem object, right? not the player that put it down
21:52.09vhaarrlike healing stream/mana tide
21:52.26Antiarcbelieve so.
21:52.28[Liquidor]But the player is putting down the totem
21:52.36Antiarcotherwise mobs would never attack totems
21:52.41PaeneAntiarc: What does SetColorAt() do in LibBars?
21:52.44Antiarc[Liquidor]: Totems are equivalent to water elementals
21:52.49[Liquidor]So.. if a totem pulls then the player is to blame
21:52.52AntiarcThe mage doesn't get the water elemental's threat
21:52.59ZeksieMagicTargets-1.0\MagicTargets.lua:276: attempt to index local 'map' (a nil value) (on-login)
21:53.02[Liquidor]nope but the mage summoned the elemental :)
21:53.06AntiarcPaene: Sets the color at a certain range in the bar
21:53.29AntiarcSo SetColorAt(1.0, 1, 1, 1) and SetColorAt(0, 0, 0, 0) makes the bar white when it's full and black when it's empty
21:53.36AntiarcAnd it smoothly tweens between those two values
21:53.47Paeneso if I set both to the same color
21:53.51AntiarcYou can set colors at any number of points if you want a multi-color fade
21:53.52PaeneI should get that bar color
21:53.59AntiarcJust set 1 if you want a solid bar color
21:54.01AntiarcDoesn't matter where
21:54.02[Liquidor]It's like giving Michael Jackson a boy... it's your fault you brought the boy :>
21:54.04Paenekk
21:54.05Antiarc1, 0, 0.1612312, whatever
21:54.18Paenethanks
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21:55.06charonAntiarc: so do you want me to change the patch so it will simply return instead of modifying the flags?
21:55.29Antiarccharon: I think what we do is in periodic heal/energize, if the dst is friendly we don't process it
21:56.02charonhuh
21:56.11AntiarcWait, no, that's wrong
21:56.24charonyou _have_ to put that check near the top, otherwise the big-ugly-double-if will enter it into the threat tables
21:56.28charonwhich is why i'm tracking it down at all
21:57.25CIA-4003funkydude * r70968 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: typo fix
21:57.49CIA-4003polarina * r70969 10Relegation/ (Data/MessageList.lua Relegation.toc):
21:57.49CIA-40Relegation:
21:57.49CIA-40<PROTECTED>
21:58.46Antiarcokay, yeah, that's right. The issue is that it's being entered into the threat tables.
21:59.16Paenedoh, SetColorAt() only works on a bar list as a whole?
21:59.42CIA-4003rabbit * r70970 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Twins.lua): BigWigs: Sunwell: Add a whisper for the burn on Brutallus and conflag on Twins.
21:59.55AntiarcPaene: Yes, I have support for single bars but need to add the methods for it
22:00.07Paeneah ok, any workaround atm?
22:00.23charonAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/86268 ?
22:00.25Antiarccode those methods in for me? ;)
22:01.36AntiarcI think it's a little simpler than that
22:01.38AntiarcNo need for the spell check
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22:02.13NeoTronxyu: here now, not sure what errorr that is so I'd say no
22:02.20Antiarchttp://ace.pastey.net/86269
22:02.42xyuhmm neo, i'll see if my chat log goes back far enough :(
22:02.50NeoTronI have it logged
22:02.56NeoTronI in fact have irc logs going back years
22:03.02xyuyour name was _neotron  
22:03.13xyuso i said _neotron:  have you seen this error, blahblahbhalh  .
22:03.15xyuor something
22:03.27NeoTron<PROTECTED>
22:03.53hypetech?
22:04.01xyu[20:43:23] <xyu> neotron_:  This is causing me to miss markings.   http://ace.pastey.net/86224
22:04.22charonAntiarc: oh, forgot to take that check out. yours also wins for clarity because it doesn't hide such event dropping deep inside an if
22:04.32charonshould quit hacking on two things at the same time
22:04.46xyuit was in SWP, it'd mark like 5 of the group and the last 2 would not be marked
22:04.49xyuand i'd get that error.
22:04.53xyuand i had to manually mark it.
22:04.56xyueven though they were set up.
22:06.30NeoTronlet me see..
22:06.56CIA-4003Ganders * r70971 10NinjaPoints/ (. embeds.xml):
22:06.56CIA-40NinjaPoints:
22:06.56CIA-40- Added embeds.xml
22:07.41NeoTronxyu: trunk or branch?
22:07.47xyuWAU
22:08.08NeoTronok it's trunk
22:08.12xyuok :)
22:08.14NeoTronso disable the "alpha marking mode" on trunk
22:08.16NeoTronit doesn't work
22:08.21xyuahh ok
22:08.57CIA-4003funkydude * r70972 10oRA2/ (8 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: update to LSM3
22:08.57NeoTronhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11748.msg207051#msg207051
22:09.04NeoTronif you want to test the new method, use that one
22:09.31NeoTronI should disable the alpha marking mode on trunk completely since it doesn't work
22:09.32AntiarcI'll commit it in a bit after I have a chance to test
22:09.41CIA-4003ackis * r70973 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
22:09.41CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
22:09.41CIA-40- Prototype of new special aquire information
22:09.41CIA-40- Will make it easier to sort by location and lower overall localization needed
22:09.41CIA-40- All dry-coded
22:09.43NeoTronor rather after tonight I'll probably copy the branch over if I find that it works
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22:10.13CIA-4003rabbit * r70974 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Remove the error message if the user doesn't have Tablet-2.0, just output to chat then.
22:10.28Sinaloitfunkeh`: Bugsack uses LSM2 if you're in an upgrade frenzy ;) and last I checked BW used LibSink instead of Sink-2.0
22:10.41Funkeh`yes, thanks
22:10.49xyuNeoTron:  when i broadcast to raidgrou, do i need to be near theM?  or do they need a /rl for it to show up?
22:11.02xyutrying to help a friend set this up, and i would like to share my mobDB with him
22:11.06xyubut we're on the otherside of the world :)
22:11.57NeoTronneed to be leader or assist
22:12.01NeoTronto send
22:12.04NeoTronbut receive works for anyone
22:12.14NeoTronbut need to configure it to be in "slave mode"
22:12.25NeoTronit's under the data sharing header in the options
22:12.31CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70975 10Hourglass/ (core.lua locale-enUS.lua): fixup locale strings
22:12.37NeoTronand err just need to be in a party
22:12.40NeoTronor raid
22:13.16xyuyeah, i just hit "broadcast...." etc  if i'm raid leader?     i'll see if it worked.  i wasn't leader before
22:13.21xyuit worked thx
22:13.23CIA-4003rabbit * r70976 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: No need to disable the options if the user doesn't have the Comm plugin any more, since we use SendAddonMessage directly now.
22:13.35CIA-4003funkydude * r70977 10BugSack/ (BugSack.lua BugSack.toc): BugSack: update to LSM3
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22:16.14durcynFunkeh`: wru lsm3 callbacks
22:16.47Funkeh`durcyn, you know no everything needs callbacks right
22:17.04durcyncooldown bars, mt/pt frames
22:17.13Funkeh`which are called when created
22:17.47vhaarryou only need callbacks if you store the return from LSM onenable or something
22:17.54vhaarrmost addons query LSM each time they need a texture
22:17.59vhaarrso callbacks are useless
22:19.12durcynyes, but there's still the edge case of the media you want not being registered when you try to fetch it
22:19.29vhaarrnot if you use it correctly
22:20.03NeoTronxyu: I am planning to add a feature to let a leader broadcast a "make your addon go to slave mode" message
22:20.20NeoTronxyu: removing all the configuration issues.
22:21.08NeoTronI have a todo a mile long :P
22:21.30NeoTronI might be able to get a bunch of drycoding done next week when I'm on vacation (in evenings, without access to wow - would be fun)
22:21.45ArrowmasterClasstheres no forum thread for oRA3 ideas is there?
22:22.15CIA-4003charon 07charon * r70978 10Omen/: Omen: delete branch in preparation for resync
22:22.25hypetechWould making ready checks only report for certain groups in ora be possible? or is there some limitation of the blizzard API?
22:22.39vhaarrArrowmasterClass: no, but whatever you have in mind could probably be implemented in oRA2
22:22.43CIA-4003charon 07charon * r70979 10Omen/: Omen: make fresh branch
22:23.10ArrowmasterClassvhaarr: no it couldnt, i just had some ideas for cooldowns in oRA3 vs oRA2
22:23.23vhaarrcare to explain then?
22:23.40Zynderpswhen someone press No on readycheck, have their screen fill with angry bees
22:23.46hypetechlol
22:23.57hypetechor at least sort the names by group or something
22:24.14vhaarrhypetech: I can't imagine how that would be of any help
22:24.18ArrowmasterClasswell obviously broadcasting spellid, but also having customizable display, only display the cooldowns you want to but have an alt mode like on mouseover show some extra ones
22:24.36vhaarrArrowmasterClass: you could implement that as a 3rd party addon
22:24.49vhaarrArrowmasterClass: look at FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu, I think it's called
22:25.14hypetechvhaarr: because if you're in a 25 man raid with more than 25 people in the raid group the people that aren't in aren't always there to hit yes so you have to figure out which afk people are inside and which aren't etc.
22:25.17vhaarras for the spell id, perhaps the protocol can be extended to support it
22:25.29xyuNeoTron:  well it's working quite well so far.   I am now the "raid marker"  in our BT and SWP raids.
22:25.57ArrowmasterClassyeah if oRA3 broadcasted all the cooldowns, but all the ones im thinking people might be interested in might could be a little large to display them all by default
22:25.57stew_aok imagine i have about 4-5mb of table, whats the best way of iterating through it?
22:25.57xyui just dont really know how to us ethe addon all that well yet.
22:26.11ArrowmasterClassi know i really want soul well broadcasted so damn raid leaders stop asking if the cooldowns up
22:26.22ArrowmasterClassbut nobody needs to see that cooldown incombat
22:26.49Diaomaybe broadcast all
22:26.55Diaoand have an option to enable/disable certain ones?
22:27.26ArrowmasterClassbroadcasting all would be bad, but broadcasting from a very large whitelist wouldnt be bad
22:27.35Diaoer not all
22:27.37Diaojust important ones
22:27.43hypetechArrowmasterClass: do you really run into situations where your raid is waiting on soulwell cooldowns? lol
22:27.49ArrowmasterClasssometimes
22:27.55ArrowmasterClasstheyre bitchy
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22:28.12Diaoi'd like to know bloodlust cds too but that's just me
22:28.28vhaarrDiao: I just added that to BigWigs_CommonAuras at the request of sb
22:28.32Diaoah
22:28.34Diaocool
22:28.44ArrowmasterClassi swear the guildmaster uses a healthstone if hes missing 2000hp, and hes a resto druid
22:28.50Diaolol
22:28.57hypetechbloodlust would be a good addition imo
22:29.11AckisWorkOn fights like brutalis/twins, waiting on bloodlusts occurs often tbh
22:29.16vhaarrArrowmasterClass: these things could easily be added to the oRA2 cooldown monitor
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22:29.32vhaarrArrowmasterClass: I'd welcome patches as long as the default behavior stays like it is now
22:29.33CIA-4003funkydude * r70980 10!SurfaceControl/ (. !SurfaceControl.toc SurfaceControl.lua embeds.xml libs/): !SurfaceControl: Update to LSM3
22:29.49AckisWorkArrowmasterClass: isn't the fubar add-on broken?
22:29.58ArrowmasterClasshuh?
22:30.10AckisWorkFuBar_oRA2CooldownFu
22:30.10ckknight_I finally got a place to live
22:30.13durcyneh, i'm not sure it's entirely appropriate for cooldown monitor, seeing as you can actually watch for CAST_SUCCESS events for heroism/bloodlust and soulwell, then start a local timer
22:30.15ArrowmasterClassi dont know ive never used it
22:30.16hypetechckknight_: w00t
22:30.32durcynwhereas things like rebirth, ankh, and soulstone don't send events on completion
22:30.40ckknighthypetech: I'd been living in hotels for almost 3 months now
22:30.52ArrowmasterClassdurcyn: somebody drops a soulwell while you are running back or before youve goten resed
22:30.59ArrowmasterClasshappens a lot
22:31.10hypetechckknight: hey breakfast in bed and a free maid. nothing wrong with that imo
22:31.19ckknightno breakfast in bed
22:31.22Pollekevhaarr, ehmm. Would it be ok to extend the CTRA res protocol with a RESYES message? Because RESSED is being sent by the person receiving the res, and thats really obsolete
22:31.33CIA-4003charon 07charon * r70981 10Omen/PulloutBase.lua:
22:31.34CIA-40Omen:
22:31.34CIA-40purl, have a cookie made of svn:eol-style
22:31.35ckknighthypetech: it's been smaller than a studio apartment
22:31.41hypetech:( lol
22:31.44durcynArrowmasterClass: well, my being a warlock notwithstanding, if i'm too stupid to notice the giant green glowing object in front of me, then i'm beyond saving
22:31.56vhaarrPolleke: why is it obsolete?
22:32.08ArrowmasterClassvhaarr: you dont know if CTRA has fallback checks for if the cooldown # is higher than 4 do you?
22:32.20ArrowmasterClasswouldnt want errors to popup for other people
22:32.22vhaarrArrowmasterClass: it ignores anything over 3
22:32.27Pollekevhaarr, because we can check SPELL_SUCCESFULL
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22:32.48vhaarrPolleke: not if you can't see the combat log, which happens if you released and you're running back
22:33.10vhaarrPolleke: as the raid leader, I check the res monitor all the time during wipe recovery while running back, to see that people don't res rogues and warriors first
22:33.32CIA-4003charon 07charon * r70982 10Omen/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Omen: merge preview of pullout bar branch
22:33.39Pollekevhaarr, *SPELL_SUCCEEDED. No, the person doing the res fires that event. You always see it
22:33.50charonAntiarc: ^
22:33.53nevcairielnot if you are outside
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22:34.06vhaarrindeed
22:34.14ArrowmasterClassand not if the person getting resed is bugged
22:34.17ArrowmasterClassthat bug still happens
22:34.22NeoTronman
22:34.26Pollekeyeh it does. Border case tho
22:34.33ArrowmasterClassnot a border case
22:34.36ArrowmasterClasshappens a lot
22:34.38NeoTronthe KT trinkets from Naxx are super for unded/demon fights
22:34.41Pollekehappens perhaps once in 100 resses
22:34.45NeoTronso sad when old items are still so good
22:34.48charonAntiarc: i'd of course appreciate comments on the (code) design, perhaps you can spot something you wanted to do that is not possible like this, etc.
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22:34.57ArrowmasterClassi can reproduce that bug easyly
22:34.57AntiarcI'll take a peek at it when I have a bit, certainly
22:34.58durcynNeoTron: <3 my mark of the champion
22:35.05Gary13579NeoTron: so is that BWL caster trinket
22:35.06durcynNeoTron: now if only SW bosses dropped scourgestones
22:35.10ArrowmasterClassmake it a lot more often than 1 in 100
22:35.17Xinhuan1 in 100 is pretty common considering a progression raid will have a few thousand resses
22:35.39ArrowmasterClassif you release while somebody is casting res on you, youre very likely to get that bug
22:35.48Polleke20 wipes. 25 deaths per wipe. Not thousands
22:35.52Gary13579and yeah it happens a ton
22:36.19charoni'm too tired to work on making it more featureful/beautiful, but i was thinking the "one bar for several cooldowns" layout could work nicely both for single target (using class icons?) and AoE (using raid marks/target icons) pullouts
22:36.53Xinhuanwell 20x25 is 500, and a bug occuring 5 times in one night is a lot isn't it? :)
22:37.00PollekeWell the thing is, the code to check for the accept res box is ugly. And if someone is bugged, no ammount of resses will work right?
22:37.19ArrowmasterClassright but they wont show as resed
22:37.44charons/^/Antiarc: /
22:38.04charon~lart purl
22:38.04purlinstalls a bad bootloader on charon and turns charon into a brick
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22:38.18AntiarcI'll take a look at it when I get a bi
22:38.19Antiarcbit
22:38.27AntiarcBut I'm pretty swamped with paying work this week
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22:38.54charonjust trying to highlight my ideas also ;)
22:39.01PollekeAntiarc, did you see my post on EJ regarding taunting at 120% threat?
22:39.08CIA-4003paene * r70983 10Cryolysis2/core/events.lua:
22:39.08CIA-40Cryolysis2:
22:39.08CIA-40- Polymorph timers and sounds now work properly when refreshing polymorph
22:39.11Chompershttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kul+Tiras&n=Chomps
22:39.12charon(you posted a screen of sucha multiple cooldown bar the other day)
22:39.13Chompersyay gloves :D
22:39.16PollekeAntiarc, your new taunt code doesnt handle it
22:39.30AntiarcPolleke: I didn't, can you link me?
22:39.49ArrowmasterClassa lot of addons still need updated to use the new durability event
22:39.55ArrowmasterClassincluding oRA3
22:40.14PollekeAntiarc, http://elitistjerks.com/717924-post2295.html
22:40.35AntiarcTaunting during an RSTS will cause issues, yes :/
22:40.55AntiarcThe alternative being a delay window, where someone does pull aggro, the tank taunts before the delay window expires, and it doesn't register
22:40.56PollekeAntiarc, I don't think there is a way to handle it is there?
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22:41.56PollekeAntiarc, or an option to set the tanks? Or is that ugly?
22:42.05AntiarcThat would be extremely ugly
22:42.10Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A43EoE0UiY
22:42.31durcynyou're a bad bad man.
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22:43.25Paeneis there a module lib for Ace3?
22:43.36AntiarcAceAddon-3.0 doubles as a module core
22:43.51stew_aso, anyone? 4-5mb table, best way to iterate over it's keys?
22:44.00pastamancerstew_a: pairs() :p
22:44.04Antiarcfor k, v in pairs(t) do
22:44.06Josh_Borkestew_a: for k, v in pairs() do end
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22:44.24stew_afair enough
22:44.25ckknightAntiarc: isn't ace3 all about not having things double functionality
22:44.38AntiarcAn addon and a module are functionally identical
22:44.39ckknight?
22:44.40Josh_Borkestew_a: in all seriousness, with a large table, you should probably use a coroutine
22:44.41ckknight:-P
22:44.46ckknight(btw: facetious)
22:45.07stew_aJosh_Borke: heard of it, but no idea what a coroutine is
22:45.39charonnight all
22:45.39Josh_Borkestew_a: coroutines are strange and mysterious things
22:45.40AntiarcThink of it as a separate thread
22:45.40ckknightstew_a: it's like a green thread
22:45.51Josh_Borkeas opposed to a purple thread? o.O
22:45.56Antiarca green thread is a better descriptor, yes
22:46.01Chompersckk, have you seen the andromeda strain?
22:46.09ckknightgreen threads = threads that are done on the application layer instead of the OS layer
22:46.12AntiarcJosh_Borke: A green thread is threading done by a piece of software, as opposed to the kernel
22:46.13ckknightChompers: nope
22:46.16Chomperspretty interesting new mini-series that aired last night
22:46.23ckknightwhat's it about?
22:46.24Chompersabout a deadly virus that kills people
22:46.26ckknightooh
22:46.29ckknightI like viruses
22:46.33Chompersme too
22:46.36Josh_Borkestew_a: http://lua-users.org/wiki/CoroutinesTutorial
22:46.39Xinhuanis it based on that book
22:46.39ckknightcoughs
22:46.43Chompersi hope this one kills everyone, that'd be awesome
22:46.45stew_aJosh_Borke: thanks
22:46.47Chompersyeah it is
22:46.49Josh_Borkehm, deadly virus that kills
22:46.53Josh_Borkewho would have tohught?
22:46.53Xinhuanthe book is good
22:47.00Xinhuanmovies based on books tend to SUCK
22:47.09Chompersits a tv-movie
22:47.17Chompersso yeah...don't expect something amazing
22:47.23Sinaloitdeadly viruses are quite safe really.. I swear!
22:47.27Josh_Borkeand it is on A&E
22:47.32Josh_Borkeso...
22:47.38Chompersit does have breasts covered in foam, so that's cool
22:47.39Xinhuanif you've read the book, hehe
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22:49.45stew_ad'oh, locked up irc client trying to launch the coroutines link, firefox is spending the last and next 15 mins making the aformentioned 5mb table
22:51.43Josh_Borkestew_a: lol
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22:52.43Josh_Borkestew_a: i don't think that the size of the table should be your metric, more of the number of keys
22:53.34stew_ahmm, i'll ask it, but its got lots of little nested tables
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23:01.46stew_aJosh_Borke: this coroutines thing seems perfect for what i want to do, does the calling script continue to execute while the coroutine is running?
23:02.06Cryectno
23:02.33Cryectthere is no multithreaded in Lua
23:02.45Cryectthe corountine has to yield for the calling script to continue
23:02.53Cryector return
23:03.02stew_aah, so whats the point?
23:03.06vhaarrwhat do I get from WWS if I don't have a paid account, does it just generate HTML files then?
23:03.10PaeneWhat does X-BigWigs-LoadInZone do? (I'm looking into how to make an addon modular)
23:03.12AntiarcIt's simulated multithreading
23:03.16CryectIt simplifies running lots of stuff
23:03.34vhaarrPaene: it takes a comma-separated list of zones where to load that module pack
23:03.43Cryectyou can easily write functions that take a long time to process spreading their time over a lot of time without freezing the rests of your tasks
23:03.59vhaarrPaene: implemented by BigWigs\LoadOnDemand.lua
23:04.04Paenethanks :)
23:04.14Josh_Borkestew_a: the idea being you process a few tables at a time in your coroutine function and then come back, without losing place
23:05.05Cryectof course can do it without coroutines but sometimes its just easier to write a simple scheduler and call yield
23:05.18stew_aok, thanks
23:05.38NeoTronI wonder how much dps, on average, a boomkin gives a warlock
23:05.58Gary13579not much
23:06.01buu5%?
23:06.08Gary13579eww no
23:06.12Gary135795% crit != 5% DPS
23:06.13buuUm.
23:06.16buuWhy not?
23:06.22pastamancerdots can't crit
23:06.22buuWell, ok, lifetap
23:06.28buupastamancer: He said warlock dude
23:06.30buuNot .. shadow priest?
23:06.48Gary13579he's assuming affliction warlocks
23:06.49Gary13579which are lol
23:06.52pastamancerwarlock dots can crit?
23:06.52buuWhat a ferak
23:06.58buuNobody has affliction locks dude
23:07.01pastamanceror do they all just spam shadowbolt now
23:07.05Gary13579anyway
23:07.05NeoTronso without accounting for ISB, it seems to be around 80-90 DPS
23:07.10buuWell, they might spam incinerate
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23:07.19buuEither way.
23:07.33pastamancerI missed the memo about afflction locks
23:07.42Gary13579ele shaman > shadow priest > resto shaman > BM hunter > boomkin > ret paladin
23:07.44Gary13579or something like that
23:07.49Gary13579ele shaman is retarded <3
23:07.51buuWut, ele > spriest?
23:07.52NeoTronabout 3.8%
23:07.54buuHow does that work.
23:08.07Viper0000spriest's give my mage mana
23:08.10Gary13579buu: 4% hit, 3% crit, 120ish spell damage, 20mp2
23:08.11NeoTron3.8% without accounting for ISB
23:08.19buuGary13579: 3% hit you dirty space goat.
23:08.19NeoTronGary13579: except no one relies on a shaman for hit
23:08.28Gary13579buu: shh alliance ftw ;)
23:08.38buuYeah, if you assume hitcap, 3% crit and 101 spell damage
23:08.39NeoTronso boomkin > bm hunter
23:08.50Gary13579probably yeah
23:08.52buuVs 5% spell + 10% shadow or whatever it is
23:09.00Gary13579but you shouldn't be bringing a boomkin to a serious raid anyway :P
23:09.05buuAlso, mp5
23:09.12Gary13579group, not raid buu
23:09.13NeoTronbuu: nono. not shadow priest in the raid, shadow priest in the gorup
23:09.14buuWarlocks love me some mp5
23:09.15NeoTronwhich is mana only
23:09.22Gary13579but yeah
23:09.23buuOh, ok
23:09.25Josh_Borkepastamancer: afflic locks don't scale
23:09.32KebinusanHmm, Anyone screw with their guild by bumping threat/omen revision numbers in their local copy, it sounds fun fun
23:09.34Gary13579if it's an ele shaman in group vs shadow priest in raid, spriest wins by far
23:09.43buuThe 3% crit/spell dmage probably beats the mp5
23:09.46buuBut I wonder how close it is
23:09.47NeoTronon a 10 minute brutallus fight
23:09.52buuHow much mp5 do spriests bring?
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23:10.01NeoTrona shadow priest + shaman (elemental) saved a warlock 10 life tap vs myself
23:10.03Gary13579150-200ish, depending on DPS
23:10.11Kebinusanret pallies are the best
23:10.20KebinusanI love my judgement of wisdom
23:10.21NeoTronsorry 6 minute of course
23:10.47buuAssuming 200mp5 you gain 1 life tap every what, 45 seconds?
23:10.49NeoTronI also used 1 more pot but got less mana back than this lock
23:11.12buuA life tap is 3000 damage?
23:11.22Kebinusan2kish
23:11.25buuWut
23:11.27Gary135791k DPS, VT is 5%, so that'd be 50 mp1, 250mp5
23:11.32buuKebinusan: Real locks
23:11.34NeoTron17376 mana over 6 minutes
23:11.51NeoTron240 mp5 from SP
23:11.56buuNifty
23:12.07buuSo that's 1 life tap every 35 seconds or so
23:12.10NeoTron90 mp5 from a resto shaman
23:12.13buuWhich is 3000 damage
23:12.13Gary135791700 DPS (what kind of damage to end game spriests do now-a-days?) is 425mp5
23:12.28AntiarcA spriest is lucky to cap at around 1600
23:12.38AntiarcAnd that's with full consumables and a stacked raid.
23:12.42buuSo like, 85dps from mp5?
23:12.45Gary13579damn :(
23:12.46NeoTronGary13579: 1450ish it seems
23:12.47buuSomething like that.
23:12.48Kebinusanbuu and just how much spell damage do you figure real locks have that 2k seems unreasonable
23:12.54buuKebinusan: Huh?
23:13.10NeoTronso a shadow priest is almost the same benefit as a boomkin excluding the benefit from ISB  completely
23:13.16buuKebinusan: 2k would only be a like, 1400 dps?
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23:13.24StanzillaAntiarc: I do ~1300dps on Brut without heroism and drums :(
23:13.37AntiarcRight
23:13.47buuNeoTron: Also ignoring the theoretical smaller healing load.
23:13.48KebinusanLifetap is 582 health to mana with an 80% coefficient on your spell damage
23:14.02buuKebinusan: You seem confused. I'm talking about how much damage to the mob it's worth.
23:14.20buuI'll note I was assuming a 1500 life tap or so
23:14.28Kebinusan1500 is low
23:14.30Kebinusanbut ok
23:14.31Kebinusanyeah
23:14.36Kebinusancame in to the convo late
23:14.39NeoTronI lifetap for 1790 on avg
23:14.41buuIf you're tapping for 2k then it's a 41 seconds
23:14.49buuWhich is like 73 dps
23:15.16NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/3gkueyrsj235g?s=13605-13966&a=1#buffs vs http://wowwebstats.com/xjoo4jckg6hzm?s=3640-3998&a=1#buffs
23:15.23NeoTronresto shaman + sp vs neither
23:15.29buuSince we're super minmaxing maybe we could assume some sort of setup where you can drop a healer if you spriest the locks
23:15.43KebinusanId say you're better off giving the spriest to huntards or other classes with real mana issues over warlocks tho
23:15.51buuNEED MOAR DPS
23:16.11Xinhuanwtb healers capable of keeping tanks alive through stomps
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23:16.17buuFuck
23:16.21buuNow you're making me want to raid again
23:16.23NeoTronKebinusan: huntards with JoW => loldps
23:16.34NeoTronXinhuan: now that is the real challenge
23:16.42KebinusanNeoTron, yeah for sure
23:16.53NeoTronthey get so much mana back it's silly
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23:17.26buuNeoTron: Is 'restore mana' the spriest?
23:17.27KebinusanI remember when we first got a ret pally I was looking at a WWS of it and yeah.. its pretty insane how much mana hunters get back
23:17.30NeoTronstill we gave locks a huntard and a boomkin
23:17.34Kebinusanrestore mana is a mana pot
23:17.37CIA-4003poull * r70985 10PallyPower/ (PallyPower.lua PallyPowerValues.lua):
23:17.37CIA-40PallyPower:
23:17.37CIA-40- Added 40 yards check to people not being directly targeted by auto buffing.
23:17.39NeoTronand the hunter was really just theer due to lack of better person to put there
23:17.46Kebinusanspriest is Vampiric touch
23:17.49NeoTronwe maximuized healer survivability
23:17.50NeoTronerr
23:17.51NeoTrontank
23:18.04NeoTronwhich nerfed hunters out of GoA and druid crit aura
23:18.07buuPssh
23:19.05buuNeoTron: You mana over destro?
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23:19.43NeoTronholy lol
23:19.51NeoTronthis warlock has 260 spell hit
23:19.55buuWhat
23:19.56NeoTronthat's goddamawful
23:20.00buuthe fuck?
23:20.02NeoTrontalk about wasting stat points
23:20.10AntiarcMaybe he's dual wielding
23:20.14Arrowmasteri have 220....
23:20.15NivFreakhaha
23:20.24Arrowmasterfucking t6 gear has too much spell hit
23:20.30KebinusanIm at 214atm cause I havent figured out where to drop some yet
23:20.43vithosGoA and LotP are nice, but JoW is more important
23:20.47NeoTronI picked up the badge wand and got down to 202
23:20.51AntiarcI'm at 305
23:20.54AntiarcBut I'm also a rogue
23:20.59NeoTronbuu: mana pots are better dps gain yes
23:21.04Arrowmasteri might pickup the badge boots which would add another 17 hit
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23:21.08vithosif you have a survival hunter though, you probably don't want to take GoA away from him minmaxing
23:21.20buuNeoTron: By how much?
23:21.22NeoTronArrowmaster: they aren't very good if you waste 17 hit most likely
23:21.30PeoiiArrowmaster: There's no such thing as to much spellhit :P
23:21.31NeoTronbuu: not sure exactly but wowhead comments have some math
23:21.38buuHokay
23:21.43Arrowmasterwell i have FSW boots
23:21.49Arrowmasterand i want to go fire
23:21.49NeoTronZA boots
23:21.55PeoiiZA boots are win.
23:22.10Arrowmasterill have to look
23:22.14buuDAMN IT STOP MAKING ME WANT TO RAID
23:22.19NeoTronbuu: hehe
23:22.19buuMY SERVER IS FULL OF FAILS.
23:22.20Honkarcane ftw :p I'm over the cap by 15.. and I've only got 78 :}
23:22.25Gary13579(18:17:57) (buu) Since we're super minmaxing maybe we could assume some sort of setup where you can drop a healer if you spriest the locks
23:22.29buuHonk: God that's disgusting.
23:22.32Gary13579It doesn't take an entire healer to heal life taps.
23:22.35Honk:p
23:22.39buuGary13579: Well, no.. but..
23:22.41Gary13579Fuck, lifebloom me once and I'm good for another 2-3 minutes.
23:22.55NeoTronomglol
23:23.16buuGary13579: Maybe I'm just bitter from years of "ok guys the healers can only heal the tanks so warlocks can't life tap"
23:23.19KebinusanI wish soul leech gave overheal as mana in some ratio
23:23.20NeoTronit's just one gem but this lock has a +spellhit gem too
23:23.37buuNeoTron: Dude, I totally read the spellhit is the best stat you can get.
23:23.41PeoiiI needs more haste :/
23:23.47PeoiiOnly have 80 atm... blah.
23:23.49Gary13579buu: fucking hate fights like that
23:24.06buuGary13579: I think.. there are bads someplace.
23:24.09NeoTronhe should probabyl also consider the robe from heroic KT
23:24.12NeoTronit's actually better
23:24.20buuOf course, we had druids specced healing touch
23:24.23buuYay!
23:24.29Kebinusandreamstate go
23:24.35HydrogenI heard you should cap your +spell damage and then put everything else into hit
23:24.45Gary13579ya
23:24.46Peoiihit > haste > dmg > crit
23:24.49Gary13579but spell damage caps early
23:24.54Gary13579like 400ish
23:24.56Hydrogenbecause if your hit is high enough you can hit em twice
23:24.57Peoiiin order of priority for me ;)
23:24.58Hydrogenfor double damage
23:25.08buuHahaha
23:25.12Gary13579only during full moons, Hydrogen
23:25.29buuMust .. shadowbolt..harder
23:25.35buuNeoTron: So wait, does fire beat shadow now?
23:25.38Gary13579pops a destro pot.
23:25.45Gary13579Depends on gear, buu
23:25.56Gary13579I'm too lazy to do the math for T6.5 lock but for me fires better
23:26.08buuWhat, you did no math but you know fire is better?
23:26.22Gary13579I meant I'm not a T6(.5) lock :(
23:26.25PeoiiShadow is better atleast up thru BT/Hyjal
23:26.27buuAh.
23:26.37Peoiithen it starts changing a bit with haste.
23:26.37buuI just can't imagine fire beating imp sbolt.
23:26.40buuIt's so ridiculous.
23:26.46Gary13579buu: emberstorm
23:26.49Gary1357910% more fire damage
23:26.52MaelosIt won't beat shadow.
23:26.54Gary13579= ISB essentially
23:26.56Peoiiimp sbolt is the single largest raid utility debuff, period.
23:26.57Kebinusan<PROTECTED>
23:27.04Kebinusanbut ISB is better the raid
23:27.05buuGary13579: That's just making up the coefficient failure
23:27.06MaelosAnd I still don't buy into the haste argument.
23:27.09PeoiiAll your spriests, all your warlocks, everyone.
23:27.14buuGary13579: sbolt has like 12% more spell damage
23:27.20CIA-4003ackis * r70986 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BeastTrain.lua:
23:27.20CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
23:27.20CIA-40- Typo fixes :P
23:27.22Gary13579buu: no, the 10% free spell haste makes up for that.
23:27.22MaelosHaste being good for destruction makes too many assumptions, like not having a shadow priest.
23:27.25Gary13579As well as higher base damage.
23:27.28MaelosAt which point haste becomes crap.
23:27.42Gary13579Anyway I don't feel like getting into a fight with people who spew crap like "LOL SHADOWS BETTER HANDS DOWN" without doing the math
23:27.45Gary13579so I'm dropping it
23:27.59buuHey, I was asking for math.
23:28.11PeoiiMaelos: Well, when you look at Brutalis, and spriests can only pump out tops 1600 dps, you're starting to see guilds cut back on the number of spriests they bring, and seeing more and more other utility classes.
23:28.14Gary13579So go do it
23:28.15Gary13579:)
23:28.16buuBut everyone who tries to model impsbolt goes insane
23:28.25KebinusanThe math says they are about equal in personal dps, then the debate into the raid benefit of ISB gets all tricky
23:28.33MaelosYeah there isn't as much need for shadow priests now with the spirit changes too.
23:28.35Gary13579there's a chart on shadowpriest.com wiki
23:28.37MaelosOnly 1600 dps?
23:28.41PeoiiYea, only.
23:28.45vithosPeoii: that's exactly wrong, you want more spriests and drop healers for more dps
23:28.47buuKebinusan: Er, fire would have to be fairly higher I would think
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23:28.56MaelosWhat are the other classes putting out?
23:29.04Gary13579Fire is a ton higher personal DPS
23:29.06PeoiiMaelos: 1900-2300?
23:29.11MaelosI'm generally the top DPS at 1700
23:29.11Tullerso whoever feels like it: make the dropdown in ace3 gui scrollable :P
23:29.17MaelosGranted I don't have 4pc T6 yet
23:29.19Gary13579and if you don't have a shadow priest, it's much better, not debatable there
23:29.28MaelosPeoii: What kind of gear?
23:29.35NandiniTuller: provide fewer options :P
23:29.48TullerNandini: its not me, its shared media :P
23:29.53PeoiiMaelos: there's only 1 piece of gear I have left to pickup in BT/Hyjal, and that's the stupid skull.
23:29.57Nandiniinstall less media? :)
23:29.59TullerI don't use ace3 config in anything I've written :P
23:30.13Polleke1600 dps for a spriest is extremelly high end, it involves a tailored group and lucky on the isb rng and crit rng. 1400 dps is more likely
23:30.27PeoiiPolleke: lol starshards lol
23:30.31buuPolleke: No benefit from the haste changes?
23:30.37Josh_Borkebuu: not like that
23:30.54buuJosh_Borke: Hrm?
23:31.06Josh_Borkebuu:  200 DPS from haste changes is too much for spriest
23:32.06NeoTronKebinusan: theorycraftign, fire dps is higher
23:32.11NeoTronlike 100-150 dps higher
23:32.15NeoTronalthough I didn't see it  really
23:33.15Gary13579buu: Getting a formula for you because I'm nice.
23:34.32KebinusanNeoTron, I'll have to take another look at the math last time I did was right after they made the change.. Im sure its been refined a bit since then
23:34.49KebinusanId hate having to enchant something else instead of soulfrost though, such a damn expensive enchant
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23:36.50TaskySomebody was trying to help me with getting Omen working, it was yelling INVALID_MEMOIZATION at me. Are they still around? The error is happening again...
23:37.09AntiarcIt's an upgrade issue, and will be fixed as soon as I can get some testing time in
23:37.34TaskyWas that directed at me?
23:38.00Antiarcyup
23:38.02stew_aantiarc: chatter's behaving wierdly when i try to debug an int to the chatframe, the altnames module throws a strop
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23:38.05TaskyI have a pastey bin of the error(s) if it helps.
23:38.17Antiarcstew_a: okay, I'll fix it
23:38.32TaskyAnd someone told me to try "/run for k, v in pairs(LibStub("Threat-2.0").memoizations) do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(k..":"..v) end ", but it outputs nothing to the chat window.
23:38.54Antiarc<PROTECTED>
23:38.57AntiarcThat may patch it up
23:39.01AntiarcBut it's a bug and needs to be fixed
23:39.04Taskyokay
23:39.11Taskyhttp://ace.pastey.net/86235 if it helps :)
23:39.33TaskyAnd I wish I could be more helpful, but LUA is about as foreign as arabic to me. I'm a PHP/VB kiddy
23:40.02AntiarcHehe, no problem. I'm pretty sure Xinhuan had the issue nailed down
23:40.08AntiarcI have a fix coded up locally, just need to test it
23:40.25XinhuanAntiarc, the funny thing though
23:40.36Xinhuanis that i see no version of omen that has the memo table changed
23:40.46Xinhuanthreat-2.0 that is
23:40.50AntiarcXinhuan: Threat-2.0 in an LOD addon would do it, or something like that
23:40.58TaskyI even grabbed the version from the wowace directory... r70623 i believe
23:40.58AntiarcAnything that delays load past the oninit event
23:41.00ckknightanybody interested in a QA position at Curse?
23:41.01AntiarcSo that the oninit doesn't fire
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23:41.05Xinhuanso technically the only case that will ever happen is when a LoD addon embeds it
23:41.08Xinhuanyup
23:41.10Xinhuanexactly as you said
23:41.31stew_ais there a lua equivalent of php's microtime()?
23:41.39AntiarcGetTime()
23:41.39ckknightstew_a: WoW has GetTime()
23:41.43XinhuanGetTime()
23:41.44stew_ata
23:41.47Antiarcos.time() outside of WoW
23:42.00ckknightos.time() doesn't have enough precision
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23:42.10AntiarcWhat am I thinking of that has precision then?
23:42.13AntiarcOne of them does
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23:42.16ckknightos.clock()
23:42.19AntiarcThat's it
23:42.34CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70987 10RBM/RBM_BlackTemple/ (8 files): RBM_BlackTemple: Update for new API and Illidan fix.
23:42.35Taskyclock returns... ticks?
23:42.38Xinhuanwhat does a QA position at curse do?
23:42.52AntiarcQA, I would suspect
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23:42.58Taskylol
23:43.08Xinhuanslaps Antiarc away with a large trout
23:43.23CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70988 10RBM/RBM/ModuleClasses/Boss.lua: RBM: Update Scan Checking.
23:43.41XinhuanTasky, out of curiosity, how many addons do you have that use threat-2.0?
23:43.45CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70989 10RBM/RBM_Sunwell/ (EredarTwins.lua Felmyst.lua Kalecgos.lua): RBM_Sunwell: API Changes/Bug Fixes.
23:43.53Xinhuanis omen the only one, or is there something else
23:44.22Josh_BorkeXinhuan: test their website?
23:44.33Xinhuani don't know Josh_Borke, that's why i'm asking!
23:44.42Josh_Borkethat would make sense, no?
23:44.46Josh_Borkethey would QA
23:44.55XinhuanQA [i]what[/i]? is the question
23:45.01Josh_Borketheir website
23:45.05pastamanceryell at kael and ckk mostly I'd imagine :p
23:45.06CIA-4003phanx * r70990 10Grid/ (Grid.toc GridFrame.lua embeds.xml libs/): Grid: Upgrade to LibSharedMedia-3.0.
23:45.15Gary13579buu: quick 5 min work, may be inaccurate
23:45.16Gary13579http://pastebin.com/m54804e96
23:45.24ckknightit's not just the website
23:45.27ckknightit's the Curse Client
23:45.32ckknightand like, Curse Profiler
23:45.47Josh_Borkeoh, i forgot they had actual apps
23:45.57ckknightand wowdb
23:46.08Xinhuanso its basically just trying to find ways to break the app/program/website?
23:46.12ckknightsure is
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23:46.57CIA-4003antiarc * r70991 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):
23:46.57CIA-40Threat-2.0:
23:46.57CIA-40- Fix OnInit problems for addons that are LOD and embed Threat-2.0
23:46.57CIA-40- Fix for totems that heal peeplez before they register as friendly.
23:47.00AntiarcI have an idea for a mod
23:47.03ckknightshoot
23:47.04AntiarcBut I am too lazy to write it myself
23:47.14AntiarcI want something that tracks the cumulative value of items I do NOT loot from mobs.
23:47.17TaskyXinhuan: besides Omen? zero that I know of.
23:47.22Gary13579buu: 1.5k spell damage, Fire = 1279.25233~, Shadow = 1263.5183
23:47.24AntiarcAnd tells me "This is how much money that you didn't pick up today!"
23:47.40NivFreakeh?
23:47.43NivFreakyou mean farming?
23:47.46Stanzillathat would make me sad Antiarc :(
23:47.54Gary13579Of course, at lower spell damage levels Fire will become even better than Shadow, and at higher, Shadow will take over.
23:47.54AntiarcJust items
23:47.54AntiarcLike trash items
23:47.54Xinhuanheh
23:48.04Antiarc[Severed Basilisk Urethra]s and such
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23:48.20AntiarcThe stuff I don't loot to save bag space
23:48.37NivFreakah
23:48.44Josh_BorkeAntiarc: i have an idea for an addon
23:48.49NivFreakyou want to know how much money you're losing? :)
23:48.54AntiarcMore or less
23:49.03Josh_BorkeAntiarc: it keeps track of what heals landed on you and what health you had when they landed and it puts it in a pretty graph
23:49.06Josh_BorkeAntiarc: OH WAIT
23:49.13Xinhuanthe only time that error can occur is if OnInit didn't get called for ThreatLib, while i haven't quite nailed down why it doesn't get called, i've got antiarc to fix it in that update 1 minute ago
23:49.14AntiarcThat sounds awesome
23:49.15AntiarcYou should write it
23:49.17Xinhuanso just update again in a bit
23:49.17AntiarcYou'll be gamous
23:49.19Antiarcfamous
23:49.30Arrowmasteri wonder how haste effects incinerate with its 10% cast time reduction
23:49.37Josh_BorkeAntiarc: i hate you...so much
23:49.42Sinaloit+Antiarc: Gee, chatter, omen, sanity, etc don't leave you oodles of spare time? =)
23:49.53AntiarcPlus 16+ hours/day at my real job
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23:49.56AntiarcAnd raiding 4 days a week
23:50.01AntiarcAnd married with a pregnant wife
23:50.16Sinaloit+Antiarc how is sanity doing anyway?
23:50.21Josh_BorkeAntiarc: grats on the kid
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23:50.26kd3^
23:50.26AntiarcAbandoned, mostly. I use baggins :P
23:50.26Sinaloitand pre-grats on your child
23:50.29AntiarcI'll rewrite it someday.
23:50.32AntiarcHehe, thanks
23:50.37Josh_BorkeAntiarc: still working on that website thing?  that still your job i mean
23:50.41AntiarcYup
23:50.50Josh_Borkecool
23:50.59AntiarcFlying to Philly on Thursday to meet with a very large company about a partnership investment :)
23:51.07Josh_Borkeawesome
23:51.09Josh_Borkei hope it goes well
23:51.12AntiarcMe too
23:51.42Xinhuando you know if its male or female yet? its only been a month since you announced it i think
23:51.43NivFreakAntiarc: so which one is going to lose? work, wife, or wow? ;)
23:51.50AntiarcWoW will go first :)
23:51.53AntiarcIt hasn't had to so far.
23:51.53NivFreakgood man
23:52.08CryectAntiarc, I don't know how you have time for WoW in addition to that other stuff :-p
23:52.13CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70992 10RBM/RBM/ModuleClasses/Boss.lua: RBM: Scan Bug Fix
23:52.16AntiarcCryect: I don't know either, TBH :P
23:52.17NivFreakhow many hours do you raid?
23:52.21NivFreakper raid night
23:52.37CIA-4003rabbit * r70993 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): . BDKP/NRT/TypingIndicator/SimpleChatMods: Some GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE fixes.
23:52.39Antiarc2.5-3 hours/night on Wed/Fri/Mon, 4-4.5 on Sun
23:52.43CryectAntiarc, and uh 16+ hours + ~4 hours raid and you sleep?
23:52.53AntiarcCryect: Well, I tend to nap a lot
23:52.54CryectI mean when do you talk to your wife :-p
23:52.56AntiarcI don't work 16 hour blocks
23:53.06Josh_BorkeCryect: you mean "talk", right? ;-)
23:53.06NivFreakwho talks to thier wife?
23:53.10AntiarcI'll work for 4 hours, nap, work, raid, work, etc
23:53.32Josh_Borkethat has got to be hell
23:53.35AntiarcMy work days are more like 12-16 hours, I guess
23:53.41AntiarcIt's really not. I love what I do.
23:53.49NivFreakI've been trying to keep my work days to 10 hours
23:53.50AntiarcAnd I can just pick up and do other things if I need to
23:53.53Xinhuanwut, 16 hour workdays??
23:53.55NivFreakand it's still rough with the kid + wow
23:54.01Josh_Borkeno, work, nap, work, nap
23:54.08Josh_Borkei'm a sleep 8 hours straight kind of guy
23:54.10AntiarcWell, I suspect WoW is going to be scaled way back when the kid is born
23:54.18AntiarcI get about 6 hours of sleep per night
23:54.20ckknightAntiarc: when's your kid coming?
23:54.23AntiarcI just nap during the day when I'm tired
23:54.26AntiarcEarly October
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23:54.49ckknightah, okay
23:54.49NivFreakAntiarc: the first 2-3 months are pretty easy
23:54.54NivFreakthe kid is basically in a coma
23:55.03NivFreakjust pump a bottle in one end
23:55.06NivFreakclean up the other
23:55.10AntiarcHEheh
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23:55.15AntiarcAlso
23:55.24AntiarcI work on mods when I hit a mental roadblock in my paying work
23:55.28Xinhuanthe problem is when the baby learns how to crawl ;d
23:55.32AntiarcThey're good for "cleansing the pallete" as it were
23:55.47AntiarcThough switching between Ruby, Javascript, and Lua is kinda a bitch.
23:55.52NivFreakI'm trying to figure out how much longer until my kid can farm gold for me
23:56.04AntiarcRuby and Lua are syntactically similar enough to really make me do stupid things sometimes :P
23:56.26Antiarcwhat do you mean "tremove(t) while #t >0" doesn't work?
23:56.40Josh_Borkelol
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23:57.18CryectI hate that python capitalizes its True/False while in Lua its lowercase true/false!
23:57.24AntiarcI'd kill for "for _, key in pairs(t.keys.sort) do ..."
23:57.34CryectMy most common issue between work/addons :-p
23:57.45Antiarctrue = True
23:57.46Antiarcfalse = False
23:57.50Antiarcproblem solved. :P
23:58.02Cryectyeah I'm not going to do that in all my company code
23:58.05Hydrogenor..
23:58.05AntiarcHehe
23:58.08Cryectmore likely to do False=false
23:58.08Hydrogentrue = False
23:58.10Hydrogenfalse = True
23:58.12Hydrogenproblem caused!
23:58.17Cryecthaha
23:58.37ckknightAntiarc: you want a sorted function?
23:58.41ckknightsorted(list)
23:58.47ckknightor, wait
23:58.50ckknightoh, I know what you want
23:58.51Xinhuan#define True (true)
23:58.52ckknightyea, I want that, too
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23:58.57Xinhuan#define False (false)
23:58.57AntiarcA hash sorted by keys, or whatever
23:58.59Xinhuanproblem fixed!
23:58.59CryectI think he's complaining really about how much of a pain its to get keys from lists in Lua
23:59.04AntiarcYou can do it but it's a pain in the ass
23:59.22CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70994 10RBM/RBM_Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: RBM_Sunwell: Debug Message Removed.
23:59.28CryectLike every other language getting a list of keys is easy but lua no have to iterate over the damn list :-p
23:59.50Viper_0000is chatter a good replacement for prat? or am i going to find out myself?
23:59.58vithosyes and yes

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