IRC log for #wowace on 20080421

00:00.10AntiarcAyup.
00:00.13ApocoRecount using Ace3 now?
00:00.26Cryectyes
00:00.29dre^that's happened to me once or twice. presumably something's dropping a mouse event. I can fix by going windowed mode and switching to a different app, then coming back
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00:00.43CryectElsia updated Recount to Ace3 at 2.4
00:01.01Apocoah
00:01.06dre^s/fix/work around/
00:01.15ApocoI dont have recount enabled though so it shouldnt be that
00:01.16CryectI don't see anything obvious that would be causing the issue but might want to try disabling it and seeing if it still occurs
00:01.18Antiarccharon: So yeah. I was just planning on using a right-click menu on the bars, and a "create a pullout bar for <playername>" config option
00:01.19Cryectokay
00:01.31AntiarcRather than the pullout, cute as that may be.
00:02.04charonAntiarc: may be better anyway
00:02.20charoni've drawn up a scheme where the active module decides what the pullout is going to be
00:02.48charonbut there is no dropdown menu support from ace3 right now, is there?
00:03.29AntiarcNot from Ace3, but you can use EasyMenu for simple stuff
00:04.08charonok
00:04.41charoni'll just head off to bed, it pisses me off that i've wasted more than an hour on a blizz bug
00:04.44charonnight all
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00:10.01CIA-4003arrowmaster * r70664 10Deadened/Modules/agUF.lua: Deadened: fix typo in agUF module, not sure if this will make it work again
00:10.28CIA-4003funkydude * r70665 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Libs/ Plugins/Bars.lua Plugins/Sound.lua): BigWigs: update to LSM 3
00:16.37CIA-4003kemayo * r70666 10BetterQuest/ (. config.lua core.lua embeds.xml modules/base.lua): BetterQuest: Redo config to be purely BlizzOptions.
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00:18.49CIA-4003kemayo * r70667 10BetterQuest/modules/sounds/sounds.lua: BetterQuest: Fix sounds module playing the objective complete and quest complete sounds when completing a quest.
00:20.43ShirikAntiarc: ping
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00:21.02Antiarcpong
00:21.35Shirikcan I make a feature request? :)
00:21.50AntiarcSure!
00:21.58AntiarcI don't guarantee I won't write it down and use it for toilet paper
00:22.02AntiarcBut you're welcome to make it!
00:22.02Antiarc:D
00:22.12Shirikoh yeah you're one of those jira guys aren't you
00:22.30Shirikanyway, for "healer mode" omen, can we have the option of specifying the tanks manually (even if not officer)
00:22.45Shirikwe use some strange system that omen doesn't pick up for the tanks
00:22.51AntiarcYeah, eventually
00:22.54ZeksieAntiarc: /tt to a person in raid who's not UnitIsVisible() will give you "Tell InvalidTarget: " in edit box
00:23.06AntiarcZeksie: Huh. That's interesting.
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00:24.29keissFind Herbs fires SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS , but Find Minerals doesnt ...
00:24.53dylanmkeiss: Yeah that's been an annoyance for some time.
00:25.27keissi assume thats a bug , or is there some higher sense behind this
00:26.18ZeksieAntiarc: yeah, just check that UnitFactionGroup is the same, rather than CanAssist etc.
00:26.31Antiarcmakes sense
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00:28.12keissdylanm: the thing is i need to find out its spellid , any idea ?
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00:28.35Zeksiecheck the spellcast start. that should still fire?
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00:28.47keissno its an instant
00:28.50Zeksiebegins to cast bla
00:29.00Zeksieyou still get a begins to cast
00:29.02Zeksiei believe
00:29.04keissno
00:29.07dylanmWhat about Wowhead?
00:29.13Zeksieyou do for melee isntants.
00:29.25stavmarIssue with QUartz, has anyone seen this, it is happening when taxiing, http://ace.pastey.net/86133
00:29.32ZeksieSaw lots of XXX begins to cast Sinister Strike etc.
00:29.40keisswell , you dont for Find Herbs nor Find Minerals in 2.4.2 , thats all i know :)
00:30.05ZhinjioGood evening, folks.
00:30.14keissin fact u get *zero* events for Find Minerals
00:30.15Cryectkeiss, instants still tgive you a begin to cast message
00:30.26Cryecthmm thats strange though for those
00:31.05CIA-4003kemayo * r70668 10BetterQuest/ (config.lua core.lua): BetterQuest: New tracker option: "hide when empty" (doesn't affect the header, if it's shown)
00:31.07CryectI would report them as a bug on the addon/macro forum
00:31.14dylanmThe FCT reflects the oddness still.
00:31.38keissiam think stuff like renew only first SUCCESS , but thats beside the point, there isnt like a spellid 'database' somewhere ?
00:31.44keissfires*
00:32.05ZeksieTakes 2 mins to write a script to scan the db
00:32.25CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70669 10RBM/RBM_BlackTemple/ (8 files): RBM_BlackTemple v2: Bug fix when timers are included and you pull a boss.
00:32.33Cryectsure uh Thottbot, Wowhead, etc
00:32.40Cryectthey all have spell databases
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00:33.00Zeksie8388 Find Minerals (Rank 2) only one in DB
00:33.01CryectOr if you need it all ingame then as Zeksie said just scan ingame
00:33.11dylanmI think someone has a dump of it but I forget where it is.
00:33.16Cryectwell there is also 2580 Zeksie
00:33.34Zeksieoh yeah. sorry. am stripping out non rank ones.
00:33.47Zeksiethat's the only 2 tho
00:33.52Cryectyep
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00:37.08keissthanks
00:38.55ZeksieI get a UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT and a UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED for Find Minerals..
00:39.27aestilhey.
00:39.37keissi get nothing, and only _SUCCEEDED for Find Herbs
00:40.03aestilwhere's the website to show progress?
00:40.09aestilfor the sunwell phase?
00:40.16durcyngorgonnash.info
00:41.15keiss(and the in-game combatlog doesnt register it either)
00:45.21OrionshockNeoTron: ping?
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00:53.22CIA-4003keiss * r70670 10Tracksw/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
00:53.22CIA-40Tracksw:
00:53.22CIA-40- support for druid flight form
00:53.22CIA-40- use GetSpellInfo for localization
00:53.22CIA-40- fixed deDE locale
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00:56.33RaydenUnihow does spell dmg compare to haste for spriest these days?
00:58.00MegalonRaydenUni: 1:1 with 1400 shadowdmg
00:58.34RaydenUniso shadow dmg until 1400
00:58.35RaydenUni?
01:01.19Megalonwell, haste is not useless before 1400, just 1 haste rating does not give you the as much as 1 spelldamage
01:01.40Megalons/the //
01:08.55RaydenUnii can get +9 dmg or +5 dmg and +4 haste
01:10.00Kemayohttp://njoo.deviantart.com/art/Wolverine-vs-T-rex-83392592 :D
01:11.13RaydenUnilol
01:27.28pastamancerwth... why is prat using glory?
01:28.23Megalonpastamancer: because there was not enough glory in using prat, but that is fixed now!
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01:39.45CIA-4003cwdg * r70671 10BigWigs_TwinsSay/ (BigWigs_TwinsSay.lua BigWigs_TwinsSay.toc):
01:39.45CIA-40BigWigs_TwinsSay:
01:39.45CIA-40-update zhCN locale
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01:40.45NeoTronOrionshock: ?
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01:42.44RecluseThe way the reload button moves each time wau is updated amuses me to no end
01:44.24basslingoOk, i know theres a library mod for this...... What is the name of the one that knows what class's cast which buffs?
01:44.42basslingodrew a blank
01:45.23OrionshockNeoTron was going to ask what magicDKP_Client was for, but then i decided to look at it ...
01:54.40CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70672 10RBM/RBM_BlackTemple/Bloodboil.lua: RBM_BlackTemple: Fix Bloodboil.lua type.
01:59.11CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70673 10RBM/RBM_Config/Config.lua: RBM_Config: -- Fixes with Boss Configs and being inside the instance when UI is loaded.
01:59.13stavmarugh, we had the last of the timed bosses in ZA to 10 % then the server friggin crashed
01:59.18NeoTronindeed. standby
01:59.20stavmarDamn you Alleria
01:59.23NeoTronit's pretty dumb right now but DOES work
01:59.33NeoTronwe're not using it yet though, officially
02:00.00stavmarBy the Way, Quartz giving me a bug http://ace.pastey.net/86133
02:03.32CIA-4003next96 * r70674 10HandyNotes_Vendors/ (Locales/koKR.lua Locales.xml):
02:03.32CIA-40HandyNotes_Vendors :
02:03.32CIA-40- Add locale koKR
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02:08.25TheZanke~cartographer3
02:08.26purli heard cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/trees/master (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
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02:16.54ArrowmasterAntiarc: what addons have you tested deadened with?
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02:18.23CIA-4003Gothwin * r70675 10BigWigs_TwinsSay/ (BigWigs_TwinsSay.lua BigWigs_TwinsSay.toc): BigWigs_TwinsSay: - Fixed phase 2 warnings, (Half drycoded compiles and loads fine in WoW, but Twins down this reset already so cannot test)
02:22.22WobWorkckknight: You about?
02:25.23WobWorkckknight: I haven't actually downloaded and looked at Cart3 (mostly cause I haven't played WoW in about ... two weeks.. =P) but I was looking at the video and have some suggestions for features (mostly look/feel stuff).
02:25.29Fix[EJ]Anyone running the latest CooldownTimers2 from WAU? Or willing to help my diagnose why the pulse bars doesn't work anymore :[
02:25.44WobWorkI'll dump them on Jira
02:27.01Arrowmasterdoes anybody know if Deadened works with Pitbull?
02:27.17Chaudwhat in a macro could be targeting a stealthed playe
02:27.19Chaud*player
02:28.04starlonArrowmaster: It sort of does. The castbar doesn't show up but the text does.
02:28.20Arrowmasterwhat do you mean the cast bar doesnt show up?
02:28.22starlonat least it did when I was using pitbull
02:28.30Arrowmasteryou mean it doesnt hide it? or it breaks it completely?
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02:28.51starlonThe statusbar doesn't appear, but the text "Deadended" appears.
02:29.15starlonbut that was a while ago. I switched over to oUF since
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02:30.50starlon~seen haste
02:30.51purlhaste is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 12h 46m 44s, last said: 'I've heard oUF is awesome if you like to poke code (shameless self-promotion)'.
02:31.19starlonhaste: ping
02:34.18AntiarcArrowmaster: All of them that there are modules for except agUF
02:34.40Arrowmasterare you 100% sure about that?
02:34.50Arrowmasterlooking at the code i see a major problem
02:35.17Arrowmaster. vs :
02:35.56CIA-4003xinhuan * r70676 10HandyNotes/HandyNotes_HandyNotes.lua: HandyNotes: Fix a dumb cut and paste mistake. Thanks nuoHep.
02:36.28CIA-4003arrowmaster * r70677 10Deadened/Modules/agUF.lua: Deadened: random attempt at untested bugfix
02:36.34DarkElfargh i just downloaded that :p
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02:39.57basslingosomeone wanna help me with table searching???? This is what i have so far   http://ace.pastey.net/86136
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02:44.59pastamancerbasslingo: look like you want the table to look like t["spell name"] = "class name"
02:45.11basslingoyea
02:45.24pastamancerso make it that way :p
02:45.40basslingopre-emptive class guessing for arena
02:45.49basslingobased on 1 mouseover
02:46.19basslingoguess i could change it
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02:47.50AntiarcIt's possible I pooched something up
02:47.52AntiarcWhat's the problem?
02:48.06ckknightWobWork: hey
02:48.48WobWorkhey ck, I dropped a couple of suggestions on jira
02:48.56WobWorkbut I don't know if they've been already incorporated
02:48.57ckknightokay
02:49.51ArrowmasterAntiarc: some of the modules use . and some use : like the two new ones you added each use a different one
02:50.19Arrowmasterand it doesnt really make any sense to me why theyre different
02:50.37XinhuanZeksie, do u read the 2.4.2 xperl thread on the wowace forums ;p
02:50.53ckknightWobWork: wrt having the cosmic map as the "base" map, I tried to do this, except that Blizzard's cosmic map is non-proportional, unlike all their other maps. I'd still be willing to do this with customized art
02:51.01WobWorknods
02:51.17WobWorkI figured it might be something like that
02:51.22Xinhuanckknight, only need customized art to fill in the space there ;p
02:51.26ckknightI also tried different levels of the "hybrid" map, and it doesn't look that great
02:51.35WobWorkalas.
02:51.36DarkElfMaxStats\\MaxStats.lua:63: attempt to call method 'NewBar' (a nil value)\nCallbackHandler-1.0\\CallbackHandler-1.0.lua:146: in function <...Ons\\Ace3\\CallbackHandler-1.0\\CallbackHandler-1.0.lua:146>\n<string>:\"safecall Dispatcher[2]\":4: in function <[string \"safecall Dispatcher[2]\"]:4>\n<in C code>: ?\n<string>:\"safecall Dispatcher[2]\":13: in function `?'\nCallbackHandler-1.0\\CallbackHandler-1.0.lua:91: in function `Fire'\nAceEvent-3.0\\AceE
02:51.36DarkElfvent-3.0.lua:70: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\Ace3\\AceEvent-3.0\\AceEvent-3.0.lua:69
02:51.38ckknightXinhuan: true, I just don't have custom art
02:51.50WobWorkI was seeing how the Barren's minimap made seeing the road difficult
02:52.16ckknightWobWork: basically, whenever you try to make it hybridized, it just ends up being hard to see and looks dirty
02:52.25AntiarcThey all worked at some point :)
02:52.26AntiarcLemme look
02:52.31ckknightI wish there were some way to just get the words or something, but there's not
02:52.34ckknightshrugs
02:52.40WobWorkckknight: yeah, you'll actually need a linemap version of the map without colour
02:52.45Xinhuanthere's quite a FPS drop when its hovering over zones with all the "magic reanchoring" though
02:52.46Antiarcwhich modules?
02:52.47Xinhuanfrom addons
02:55.10ArrowmasterAntiarc: the e and az ones
02:55.17ArrowmasterAntiarc: they use different styles
02:55.26AntiarceCastingBar_OnEvent is a global function
02:55.30AntiarcWhich is why it uses .
02:55.41Arrowmasterok then why does pitbull use .
02:56.09AntiarcI don't know. That looks like an error
02:56.17Arrowmasterok
02:56.29Arrowmastersomebody needs to test aguf, i think it might work now
02:57.15Arrowmasteraguf was broken because it was doing self:RawHook and then Deadened.hooks[]
02:57.15SilverstormNeoTron: have you had issues loading MagicMarker?  I'm getting an error when it tries to find MagicComm
02:57.33JaxonThen install MagicComm
02:57.41SilverstormJaxon: It is installed
02:57.48JaxonWELL THEN
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02:58.43ckknightXinhuan: magic reanchoring?
02:59.00Xinhuanof all the icons/textures/lines from worldmapbutton
02:59.14ckknightoh, that external addons put on it
03:00.42NeoTronSilverstorm: make sure it's updated?
03:01.00Silverstormjust did WAU, lemme reload one more time
03:01.11NeoTronwhat error?
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03:02.21Silverstormit can't find MagicComm-1.0
03:02.41NeoTrondo you run embedded?
03:02.46Silverstormno, disembedded
03:03.21Silverstormhmm, that fixed it...may have not had it enabled before /rl
03:03.21basslingo<PROTECTED>
03:03.26NeoTroneverything seems fine
03:03.33basslingoah
03:03.34NeoTronor you updated while it was running
03:03.41NeoTronI added some files
03:03.57NeoTronI'm running Magic Marker from a branch
03:04.02basslingocant add files, BUT you can mess with contents
03:04.04NeoTronbut I believe that trunk should be fine
03:04.09basslingo:)
03:04.22NeoTronright. wow builds a list of all files on startup and refuse to change it while running
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03:05.00SilverstormI think it wasn't enabled when I loaded WoW, then I tried to activate it...or maybe the files changed
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03:06.12Silverstormtrying to teach it Sunwell tonight =p
03:06.21NeoTron:)
03:06.37basslingohat is magic marker?
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03:06.43basslingowhat*
03:06.46NeoTronit marks.. magically.
03:06.52Silverstormnext week's task, convincing my RL to let me mark BT so we can clear faster
03:06.54basslingo>.>
03:06.58NeoTronseriously though, it's an addon that marks stuff for you for groups/raids
03:07.07basslingook
03:07.21basslingoso mark once, and it remembers
03:07.21NeoTronmakes especially difficult trash (lots of different mobs) a lot faster to clear
03:07.27NeoTronsince marking takes all but 10-20s
03:07.32NeoTronwell not quite
03:07.55NeoTronyou specify how each mob should be handled (tanked or cc'd and the priority) and also what cc methods work (also auto-learned)
03:08.04NeoTronthen it figures out how to mark stuff based on who's in the raid
03:08.13CIA-4003nayala * r70678 10Baggins_ItemRack/Baggins_ItemRack.lua: Baggins_ItemRack: Fix matching of partial item ids
03:08.15basslingoill have to try that :)  .... i was designated the official mob marker for raids ( our leader doesnt like too)
03:09.18NeoTronI wrote it because I was tired of minute long delays between pulls, and then having inconsistent marking so tanks got confused
03:09.41basslingolol good call
03:09.50CIA-4003neotron * r70679 10MagicTargets/: MagicTargets: attempt at externals.
03:10.04basslingour low int makes us get confused easily
03:10.06basslingo;)
03:23.23CIA-4003kergoth * r70680 10HandyNotes_Directions/ (Directions.lua enUS.lua):
03:23.23CIA-40HandyNotes_Directions:
03:23.23CIA-40- Add replacements to fixup the east/west locations in Silvermoon City.
03:23.23CIA-40- Make the waypoints that it automatically creates not persist, and not show
03:23.23CIA-40<PROTECTED>
03:23.25CIA-40<PROTECTED>
03:24.35Reclusehmm, handynotes is on trunk?
03:25.08Xinhuanbeen on trunk a good 2-3 weeks
03:25.37Reclusehehe, i'd been svn'n the branch for the longest time. guess i can un-svn it so wau'll pick it up :)
03:25.57Xinhuanconsidering i've deleted all those branches about 2-3 weeks ago
03:26.04Xinhuani don't know how your script managed to keep it all updated ;p
03:26.33Reclusewell, it's probably been that long since i last updated it, tbh :x
03:30.20CIA-4003wobin * r70681 10Xparky/Bar.lua: Xparky - Cleaned up code. development will slow as I'm not playing as much WoW =\
03:31.52Xinhuanbeen playing other games wobin? ;p
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03:32.26WobWork... yes.
03:32.33WobWorklotro =)
03:32.42Xinhuanhaha
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03:32.48WobWorklvl 21 hunter gno^H^H^HHobbit
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03:32.52Xinhuanhow's shire?
03:32.57WobWorkbaggginssss
03:33.09WobWorki've just ventured into the Lonelands
03:33.20WobWorkWoW could learn a few things from Lotro
03:33.24Xinhuanis that even a location in midrealms
03:33.27WobWorkand lotro could learn a few things from WoW
03:33.40Xinhuanwhat can wow learn from lotro and what can lotro learn from wow?
03:33.52WobWorkWoW can learn about quest density
03:33.54ThraeWoW has the 1 Ring, that's enough LoTRO!
03:33.59WobWorkand LotrO can learn about addons =P
03:34.06WobWorkoh god it needs addons
03:34.11WobWorkthe AH is a mess
03:34.14Xinhuanisn't lotro using lua for interface too, and modifiable?
03:34.14Thrae"Quest density"?
03:34.28WobWorkXinhuan: nothing is modifiable afaik apart from ui skins
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03:34.51WobWorkLets put it this way. Your quest log limit is 40 quests
03:35.10DarkElfhmm thats better than 25
03:35.18WobWorkand you get deed for doing all the quests in Bree-land where 'all' isn't actually 'all' but 'a lot' read about 75
03:35.30WobWorkand that's not every single quest
03:35.33WobWorkand that's just the starting area
03:35.36Xinhuan"AH is a mess"?
03:35.46WobWorkWell, there's no real way to track trends of any sorts
03:35.54WobWorkaside from a lot of writing down
03:35.57Xinhuanoh because u can't do addons?
03:35.59WobWorkyeah
03:36.06ThraeWoW already had higher quest density then previous MMOs
03:36.13WobWorkprices are all over themselves
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03:36.32WobWorkOne thing Lotro has, however is a much more detailed lore
03:36.42Xinhuanis there some warhammer online quest/item database
03:36.42WobWorkgranted, that lore -has- to be -right-
03:36.46ThraeWoW's Lore sucks
03:36.49Xinhuanlike wowhead-like
03:37.16WobWorkThere is absolutely -no- way lotro could ever ever retrorewrite lotr lore like they have in WoW =)
03:37.31WobWorkXinhuan: yeah, lotro needs a better one too
03:37.33ThraeWoW has one of the worst in-game lore out of all the popular past MMOs
03:37.42Xinhuanhaha
03:38.02Xinhuani'm more interested in starcraft's lore
03:38.04WobWorkThrae: if they try to rewrite the lotr lore, they'd get rabid tolkien fans shoving hobbits up their arse
03:38.07Xinhuanits much more better
03:38.14basslingoagreed
03:38.18ThraeYou can find exceptions in WoW, but overall, like 80% of the World is just barrenly unexplained
03:38.34ThraeTons of houses lying around without people in them
03:38.35WobWorkhehe
03:38.43WobWorkwell Azeroth is part of starcraft lore!
03:38.48Xinhuanwell lotr has a what, 60 year history?
03:38.49ThraeVery unfinished
03:39.02Xinhuancompared with wow's 10 year history
03:39.07WobWorkLotro has some -stunning- landscape
03:39.23WobWorkit has a higher bar for the graphic quality
03:39.24JaxonXinhuan: Tolkien started writing The Hobbit during World War One.
03:39.35Xinhuanyeah so 60+ years
03:39.41Xinhuanor 70 even
03:39.48Xinhuani wonder if northend's graphics will be stunning
03:40.00WobWorkThey have areas where I can seriously get lost
03:40.06Xinhuanthink they will up graphics requirements of wotlk?
03:40.07WobWorkI've never done that in WoW
03:40.22WobWorkthe Dark forest in Bree is a literal maze
03:40.24Xinhuanfairly sure you can get lost in BRD ;p
03:40.37WobWorkpft, BRD is a relativel simple layout
03:40.40Reclusescenery is only stunning the first couple times you see it. i remember my jaw dropping and drooling when i first entered ashenvale once upon a time
03:40.42Xinhuanif you can get lost, i'm not sure if that's a design fault tbh
03:40.57Xinhuanit could imply a lack of a good mapping system/UI
03:41.00WobWorkXinhuan: well, in that it's not a singlepath area
03:41.13WobWorkThere are dead ends etc
03:41.26WobWorkThe minimap also doesn't show 'paths' as such like it does in WoW
03:41.36WobWork(like when you're inside a cave)
03:41.38Xinhuanso would you consider wow better in that regard?
03:41.42WobWorkyes
03:41.43WobWorkwell
03:41.51Xinhuanits more user friendly
03:41.53WobWorkWoW makes it too easy
03:41.58basslingolol
03:42.05WobWorkThey use the same configuration in just about every cave there is
03:42.14WobWorkor a mix of two or three designs
03:42.25Xinhuantrue
03:42.35basslingo1 path , 2-3 subpaths, a cliff or two
03:42.37basslingo;)
03:43.01WobWorkIn fact one of the most complex cave interiors are on the newbie areas =P nelf and draenei
03:43.07WobWorks/one/two/
03:43.19DarkElfmumbles shame blizzard wont open up the engine to allow people to make new maps
03:43.20WobWorkor in the newbie areas full stop
03:44.05WobWorkThey have crafting done interestingly
03:44.10WobWorkalthough it's a hell of a grind
03:44.19WobWorkand apparently there's not much endgame crafting that's worth doing
03:44.27WobWork(which is almost the same for WoW)
03:44.29Xinhuanthen it won't feel as interesting anymore in a couple of days ;p
03:44.51Xinhuan[4/21 11:40:10] <Thrae> You can find exceptions in WoW, but overall, like 80% of the World is just barrenly unexplained <-- shows potential for expansion! :D
03:44.57WobWorkThey have an interesting group mechanisms called conjunctions
03:45.13WobWorkXinhuan: feh, it's not like they'll actually expand on any of the old contnet
03:45.27Xinhuanthey can though, if they choose to
03:45.33Xinhuana lot of old content hangs in loose ends
03:45.38WobWorkHaven't they said they're not? =)
03:45.39Xinhuanlike uldum
03:45.56ThraeXinhuan: I am still petitioning for "Heroic Mode Azeroth". Go go Multishot Lightning-Enchanted Hogger!
03:46.06Xinhuanwhen they start touching those big loose ends, smaller loose ends will also kinda get completed along the way (hopefully)
03:46.18RaydenUniwhat should a spriest be at for SSc?
03:46.22XinhuanThrae: too much wow comics? ;p
03:46.46aestil~cartographer3
03:46.47purlextra, extra, read all about it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/trees/master (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
03:46.47Xinhuan[4/21 11:48:10] <RaydenUni> what should a spriest be at for SSc? <-- should be inside the instance. :)
03:46.49ThraeXinhuan: No, seriously. Most people skip the 1-60 content nowadays, especially since it's super-easy to level through it now.
03:46.50WobWorkif you're in your 'fellowship' against a 'signature' mob (party and boss/elite respectively) and either someone crits at the right time, or their debuffer class initiates it, a Simon Says interface pops up (four colours) and each party member hits a certain colour.
03:46.57RaydenUnistats wise
03:47.00OrionshockApoco: wrt RBM, does nearly everyone need to have the core module for it to work as expected?
03:47.08Xinhuanppl skip 1-60 content nowadays only because they have done it before
03:47.29ThraeXinhuan: Of course it makes far, far too much sense to re-use existing content rather then making up new content.
03:47.35WobWorkdepending on what order and what colours are hit, a conjunction occurs and heals/damages/dots/re-manas etc the party
03:48.01ThraeXinhuan: Nah, I bet if you ask random 70s (not just guys you know), you'll find they encountered maybe 40% of Azeroth's total content.
03:48.24Xinhuanmany ppl only have played one faction, not both
03:48.38Xinhuanso i'm not surprised
03:48.45basslingoI started wow abit before TBC
03:48.49WobWorkI've played horde up to about 45
03:48.56ThraeXinhuan: I'm talking Alliance OR Horde
03:48.58WobWorkso up until the shared content started
03:49.03basslingobut i've gone back and done allmost all oldworld content
03:49.13basslingojust havnt done naxx or Ony
03:49.18WobWorkabout the only area I haven't done seriously is Silithus
03:49.19basslingobut done all others
03:49.21aestilWobWork: you're talking about eq2?
03:49.24WobWorkcause that area shits me to tears
03:49.29WobWorkaestil: nah, lotro
03:49.39aestilsounds like eq2 or vanguard. lol.
03:49.56WobWorkNot an uncommon interface
03:50.07RaydenUnino one knows about shadowpriests for ssc?
03:50.33WobWorkMy hobbit's name is Judi Dench
03:50.39WobWorkcause she looks -exactly- like her
03:50.41WobWorkit's scary
03:50.52aestilRaydenUni: what was the question?
03:50.55WobWork(hi2u naming restrictions)
03:51.33WobWorkand she's a hunter, which is their dps/portalling class
03:51.51basslingoSilithus has a nice drop rate for "breath of wind" but thats about all i used it for
03:52.08WobWorkbasslingo: I just dislike running through it with the aggro ranges of the variuos mobs
03:52.13RaydenUniaestil what stats for a shadowpriest to do ssc?
03:52.34basslingoWobWork, thats why i waited till 70 to get my BS past that part
03:52.37aestilaround 1k +dmg and around 8500k health buffed [at least]
03:52.41basslingo^^
03:52.46WobWorkhehe
03:52.54RaydenUniso i'm good on dmg and a little low on life
03:52.59RaydenUni1079 and around 8k hp
03:53.07Orionshockanyone know what addon uses prefix Crb?
03:53.08aestilyou can't get 8500 with fort, mark, and kings?
03:53.11WobWorkone thing Lotro has, is if your level difference is high enough, mobs will ignore you, even if you run through them
03:53.13RaydenUninope
03:53.15RaydenUnikings?
03:53.20RaydenUniwhen would i be using kings?
03:53.22WobWorkwhich makes farming wood/ore much easier
03:53.22RaydenUnineed salv
03:53.30aestilssc is a raid, which should have kings.
03:53.48RaydenUniwe have 1-2 pallies usually
03:53.48aestilyou only bring 1 paladin?
03:53.50RaydenUniso it's a maybe
03:53.56aestiloh.
03:53.57aestilok.
03:54.00durcyn3 minimum imo
03:54.06aestilyou'll be fine, just watch SW:D
03:54.13aestillots of incidental raid dmg in SSC
03:54.19aestilso using SW:D is harder.
03:54.47RaydenUniwhat's the light armory site?
03:55.00RaydenUnihttp://www.armory-light.com/us/Destromath/Raydenuni/
03:55.22Xinhuanis there any particular UI feature you like in lotro?
03:55.26RaydenUninot the one i remember
03:55.27basslingohttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Murpd    What should be my next upgrade   (only thing wrong with armory link is wep...... wep is http://wowhead.com/?item=23543 with Mongoose)
03:55.38RaydenUnii guess i got 8031 without druid
03:56.05aestilRaydenUni: run heroic MrT
03:56.10RaydenUniMrT?
03:56.15WobWorkI did a writeup after my first night or so playing LotRO at http://wobin.livejournal.com/24619.html#cutid1
03:56.19aestilmagisters terrace
03:56.34aestilthe 5v5 boss has a 1 in 4 chance of dropping the best trinket in the game for you.
03:56.51aestilif you can get into ZA, the second best trinket in the game drops off malacrass.
03:56.55RaydenUniooh
03:56.58RaydenUnithat sounds exciting
03:57.07RaydenUniyeah farthest i've been in ZA is the third boss
03:57.08aestil60 badges equals much better gloves.
03:57.17RaydenUnibut yes, definitely need new trinket
03:57.18aestilcalled... studious handwraps?
03:57.23RaydenUnisounds right
03:57.28RaydenUnihttp://shadowpriest.com/viewtopic.php?t=9844
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03:57.33RaydenUnii keep my eyes on this
03:57.34aestilalso the wand.
03:57.42aestilbadge wand is a huge upgrade.
03:57.49aestilsocket with +12 dmg
03:58.09aestili'd break FSW.
03:58.16aestilget the chest off of heroic Kael
03:58.24aestila bunch more stam.
03:58.34aestilim jealous of your neck.
03:58.42aestili've run so many times.  never once droped
03:59.00RaydenUniyeah
03:59.03RaydenUnidropped my first run
03:59.08RaydenUnisooo lucky
03:59.27RaydenUnii can get the wand now
03:59.32RaydenUniis that what you would upgrade first?
03:59.36RaydenUnii have 35 badges i think
03:59.43aestilyeah, get it.
03:59.48aestilget +9 for now.
03:59.49RaydenUnicool
03:59.54basslingoaestil, i know the feeling. I ran heroic mech from honored to exalted...... no sun eater...... Then i get Kings defender..... First run of heroic mech for a friend gets him the sun eater
03:59.56basslingo-.-
04:00.11RaydenUninow i need 6 gems instead of 5
04:00.12RaydenUni:P
04:00.16RaydenUnigot some healing ones in there
04:00.38RaydenUniit's rough getting new gear
04:00.49RaydenUnibeen missing out on the ZA runs and we dont see to be getting very far
04:00.59RaydenUniand we only tried mag for the first time this last week
04:01.08RaydenUni1 item drops for me and it's a slight upgrade from gruul and 1 from mag
04:01.41aestilrun heroics get badges.
04:01.48aestila full kara clear is 22 badges.
04:01.53RaydenUnii guess
04:02.00aestilwe do that in like 3 hours?  even a newre guild can do it in 5 hours or so.
04:02.02RaydenUnibeen so busy with school i haven't been doing anything but raids
04:02.04Orionshockaestil: 23
04:02.14aestili'm not counting the beast thign
04:02.24Xinhuan(beast thing doesn't drop badges)
04:02.26Orionshockno prince drops 3
04:02.35Xinhuan(attunment only drops 1)
04:02.36RaydenUnii've never done the beast
04:02.41Xinhuanso 22 is correct
04:03.06aestilyeah.  22 then.
04:03.23RaydenUniheh
04:03.25RaydenUniattumen is fun
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04:03.41RaydenUnii got killed by attumen while dps'ing midnight once :D
04:03.56RaydenUnii like to think that i was doing so much dmg that even my VE was doing mass amounts of threat
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04:04.16CIA-40Omen:
04:04.16CIA-40- zhCN update.
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04:12.26CIA-40LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
04:12.26CIA-40- 2.4 quest items etc. Some set name wrangling.
04:14.13CIA-4003toadkiller * r70684 10AutoBar/ (21 files):
04:14.13CIA-40AutoBar :
04:14.13CIA-40-- 2.04.01.44 beta
04:14.13CIA-40-- Update Button & Bar's shared sections, as well as the unplaced Button list before creating options. This avoids possible corrupting double placement of buttons.
04:14.13CIA-40-- Only set Offhand Weapon Buff Button to enabled on creation.
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04:16.22CIA-40AutoBar :
04:16.22CIA-40-- 2.04.01.44 beta
04:17.48Xelopherishttp://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/0/0b/NaxxramasTacticalMap.png <<-- how was this map made?
04:18.19FryGuyprobably inkscape
04:26.07Xelopherisfry, don't mean the app used to do the actual drawing, I mean the measurements
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04:32.27durcynminimap textures, i'd imagine
04:35.53ckknightXelopheris: you can extract the minimap textures and get a reasonable image that way
04:36.38Paenehow stable is LibBar?
04:36.53durcynif it's not in trunk, it's not stable
04:36.59durcynand even then, heh
04:37.26Gngskantiarc made it, so it's prolly about as stables threat and omen!
04:37.37Paeneneed an Ace3 replacement for candybar :-/
04:37.39Gngskwow, stables, inc 3
04:38.02Paenelol
04:38.29durcynonce it's in trunk the methods should at least be finalized
04:38.53PaeneAnyway to load candybar using Ace3? or is there no backwards compat?
04:39.05AntiarcLibBars-1.0
04:39.12GngskPaene, just use libbars and report bugs!
04:39.16Paenelol
04:39.20Paenekk
04:39.20durcynthere's a libstub version in branches, but trunk is AceLibrary only
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04:40.13Toadkillerso whats the status of Rock & Ace3?  Is Ace3 useable / done yet?
04:40.31Gngsklotta people are using it
04:40.44GngskI heard ckknight thinks it's buggy though, so I dunno
04:41.10durcynaceconfig is a mite tetchy under certain conditions, but it's certainly useable
04:41.11ckknightmostly the gui aspects are horribly buggy
04:41.24ckknightthe other parts seem fine to me
04:41.28WobWorkPS, new omgxkcdrules time
04:42.42ToadkillerMmm, well the gui would be what I want sadly.  Hey did u do a Blizz panels version of Rock config?
04:43.28Gngskonly problem I've ever had with ace3config is dropdowns locking up wow for a sec when I close them, kinda like bringing up the old dewdrop config for pitbull
04:43.32ckknightWobWork: hehe, awesomesauce
04:43.47ckknightToadkiller: no, I think Blizz's system is degrading
04:44.22ToadkillerAll squished into a tiny panel like a Cylon prisoner?
04:44.51ckknightWobWork: you know what's great about that? Someone will actually create that irl
04:44.59ckknightyou know it's true
04:45.46AntiarcThe worst part of the AceConfigDialog stuff is the dropdowns
04:45.48WobWorkI know
04:45.50AntiarcWhich have a rewrite ticket :)
04:45.51WobWorkIsn't it GREAT? =)
04:46.02WobWorkI <3 human ingenuity
04:46.30WobWorkI'm just pondering how quickly the webcam can be relocated
04:46.34ckknightAntiarc: scrollframes are also pretty fucked
04:46.35ckknight:-P
04:46.59WobWorkcause the magnets have to be strong enough to keep the cam on the plastic
04:47.02ckknightWobWork: the magnet idea is interesting
04:47.13WobWorkbut the bearings have to be loose enough to rotate smoothly
04:47.29WobWorkcause I'm pretty sure that thing can get to a good speed
04:49.47WobWorkalso the omniwheels might have difficulty moving diagonally
04:49.56WobWorkor any direction other than cardinal
04:50.10WobWorkunless they can angle slightly
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05:09.12ShirikI'm 21 and I end up with a cupboard full of pancake mix and pop tarts
05:09.17Shirikdoes that make me a good C programmer?
05:09.33kadrahilanyone use SpellBinder?
05:11.06kadrahil:(
05:11.55durcynkadrahil: yep
05:12.10kadrahildurcyn: is there a way to save profiles for different characters? i haven't figured that out yet
05:13.02OrionshockAntiarc: wtb more options on chatter wrt alts module
05:13.11AntiarcOrionshock: wtb more time
05:13.12durcynkadrahil: you don't need profiles for spellbinder, just set per-character bindings
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05:13.19kadrahildurcyn: hrm
05:13.30kadrahildurcyn: is there anything special you have to do to tell it that that's per character
05:13.30OrionshockAntiarc: ... yes that is the problem isn't it... eh well...
05:13.35Antiarcalways :)
05:13.36kadrahildurcyn: because i configured it all up for my hunter, right
05:13.50kadrahildurcyn: then i went to my priest and set bindings for everything, then i went back to my hunter and they didn't work :/
05:14.12durcynkadrahil: uh, turn it on in the default key bindings interface
05:14.17kadrahil.. oh
05:14.20kadrahilmaybe i was just blind
05:14.26FryGuyone laptop per hampster?
05:14.40durcynkadrahil: any binds set with that on will go into the character bindings-cache.txt
05:14.46kadrahildurcyn: ok
05:15.08kadrahildurcyn: i was pretty sure i had that set last time i tried using spellbinder but i might not have
05:15.38hastestarlon: pong
05:16.09durcynkadrahil: so what you can do to fix it in the mean time is move the account bindings cache into the hunter's character directory
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05:16.50kadrahildurcyn: well i just removed my WTF folder and i'm starting over rebuilding my UI anyway so that isn't a problem =)
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05:18.25AntiarcDamn! Just shy of 2k AP unbuffed!
05:18.31kadrahilAntiarc: :O
05:18.51kadrahilAntiarc: my hunter only has 1471 rap unbuffed :(
05:18.57Antiarc<-- rogue
05:19.00kadrahili know
05:19.04Antiarchehe, okay
05:19.06kadrahil140 +hit, 27.93% crit
05:19.12kadrahili need like 300 more ap
05:19.15Antiarchunters need that much hit?
05:19.21kadrahilyeah, 142 is the hit cap
05:19.25AntiarcOh, I guess you have the ranged hit cap, right
05:19.30kadrahilyep
05:19.51kadrahilhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil
05:20.01vithoshas anyone else noticed felmyst being healed by mana drains on wowwebstats?
05:20.07vithoshttp://wowwebstats.com/rxktc2riac5ee?bl=8718&fia=35&fiaa=i&fit=1
05:20.12vithosand there's all these heals for 0
05:20.24kadrahil^ my pve gear hasn't changed in like 8 months
05:20.24kadrahil:(
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05:20.41AntiarcI got my Hyjal exalted ring tonight, which is what bumped me
05:20.49kadrahilah
05:20.58kadrahili would love to start running hyjal if not just for the Timeless Arrows
05:21.40AntiarcII guess if you factor in the average AP contribution of my ring/trinket I'm at an average of 2100 self-buffed AP
05:21.49kadrahilnice =)
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05:22.28Peoiinerf rogues.
05:22.33PeoiiEspecially dual warglaive rogues.
05:22.35Peoiikkthx.
05:22.37Peoii:P
05:22.42AntiarcNo warglaives for me yet :(
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05:22.48AntiarcStupid Illidan won't cough them up
05:22.51PeoiiWe completed our first pair.
05:22.51kadrahildurcyn: yeah i got spellbinder to work for me this time
05:23.13kadrahildurcyn: i guess i was just retarded last time i tried using it and forgot to set char specific keybindings
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05:23.40kadrahilmy hunter has so many instants with all the aspects and pet controls that i don't need actionbar buttons for
05:23.44kadrahilspellbinder rocks for that
05:24.00vithosyeah, i use spellbinder on my hunter too
05:24.17vithosit always bitches that i have identically named macros
05:24.18vithosbut it works
05:24.20kadrahil:/
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05:24.45vithos(i don't)
05:24.55kadrahilheh
05:25.55durcynvithos: if you have two macros with spaces and the first words are the same, it'l complain
05:26.34vithosnot exactly, but close
05:26.46vithos"1:1 KC" "1:1.x KC" "3:2 KC"
05:27.27vithosalso "pet" "petfollow"
05:27.47Gngsknumber in macro is bad
05:27.56Gngskor is it if it's just a single number
05:28.14kadrahilvithos: got a question for you
05:28.28kadrahilvithos: standard 41/20 BM spec, sunfury bow
05:28.36kadrahilvithos: which ratio macro should i be using?
05:28.40kadrahiloh, ravager
05:28.45JaxonDepends on your hasted weapon speed.
05:28.52JaxonAnd mana constrictions
05:28.55JaxonNot on pet.
05:28.58kadrahildon't have any haste gear
05:29.05vithosprobably 3:2
05:29.11kadrahilwell vithos' macros use the lightning breath
05:29.20Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/v/3AdFA6WWJ7E
05:29.21kadrahilwhich is why i mentioned the ravager
05:29.33kadrahilvithos: do you still have that pastey link?
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05:29.44vithosnope
05:29.49kadrahil:*(
05:29.51vithosi'll make a new one
05:29.53kadrahilthanks :)
05:29.57kadrahili'll bookmark it or something
05:31.06kadrahilinteresting, armory updated my guild info pretty quick
05:31.11kadrahili gquit like yesterday
05:31.23vithoshttp://pastey.net/86138
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05:32.41vithosi finally got fed up with the wind serpent crap and tamed a ravager this week
05:32.47kadrahilah
05:32.51kadrahilcool
05:33.00kadrahili saw on mmo-champion forums that wind serpents eat shaman stormstrikes
05:33.03kadrahilor something like that
05:33.16vithosthey do
05:34.20vithostheir problems are many.
05:35.46kadrahilwhat the crap
05:35.59kadrahilsomeone just slammed an apartment door really freaking loud and shook the entire complex
05:37.09NeoTronso heard BigWigs bars are currenrly not working
05:37.19starlonhaste: did you get a chance to look over the code I posted?
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05:38.25hastestarlon: I had a look at it only
05:38.40hastewon't be able to do much before I'm home later today
05:38.52exor674NeoTron: not working?
05:40.18starlonok. that zip's been updated a few times, if you look at it again be sure and get a fresh copy
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05:50.23CIA-4003paene * r70689 10Cryolysis2/:
05:50.23CIA-40Cryolysis2:
05:50.23CIA-40- Externals update (so we can play with LibBars)
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05:57.03CIA-40GrimReaper:
05:57.03CIA-40- Added zhTW translation.
05:58.03JzarIs there a library for trade skills, so I can figure out what recipes a character has learned?
05:58.24JzarI haven't got the slightest clue how to obtain the information the tradeskill frame apparently has access to.
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05:58.42JzarTried to read CraftList2 and ATSW, but I didn't get much out of it.
05:58.49JzarNot that good a programmer yet, I guess.
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05:59.55CIA-40037destiny * r70692 10BigWigs/embeds.xml: BigWigs: Fixed issue LSM 3
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06:02.37JaxonWhich SharedMedia is the "newest?"
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06:04.25ckknightAce3 needs better docs
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06:04.57CIA-4003next96 * r70693 10HandyNotes_Directions/koKR.lua:
06:04.57CIA-40HandyNotes_Directions :
06:04.57CIA-40- Update locale koKR
06:05.34CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70694 10RBM/RBM_Sunwell/ (9 files in 2 dirs): RBM_Sunwell: Initial Commit. Added Burn Hard warnings for Brutallus.
06:05.45ArrowmasterJaxon: LibSharedMedia-3.0
06:06.29JaxonArrowmaster: Thanks.  It doesn't help that my standard install has all three and I can't remember which one I installed manually.
06:07.15Arrowmasterjust disable 1.0 and 2.0 at the character screen and if you get errors youll know
06:07.43JaxonThe branch of Hourglass I use needs 1.0 and something else I've got uses 2.0
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06:11.32durcyni'm workin on an ace3/libbars branch of hourglass, btw
06:11.37durcyn+g
06:12.08durcynbut either of those version on branches could be moved to LSM3 trivially
06:12.24WobWorkckknight: Ace3 is pretty simple, is the problem.
06:12.29WobWorkckknight: what it needs is more examples
06:12.37ckknightyea
06:12.41WobWorkmost of the docs cover the api
06:12.49ckknightlike, I'm looking through AceDB-3.0
06:12.54Jaxondurcyn: that'd be pretty cool.  The only reason I use a branch is for item tracking and similar cooldowns getting tracked as one.
06:12.59ckknightit doesn't specify at all how to actually declare defaults
06:13.09ckknightjust "defaults table"
06:13.15durcynJaxon: if you'd like, i can toss that into the Mist branch, i believe it's missing Sink though
06:14.07CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70695 10RBM/RBM_ZulAman/ (11 files in 2 dirs): RBM_ZulAman: -- Initial Commit.
06:15.03Jaxondurcyn: the one I'm using is Hourglass2 right now, no big deal for me with an extra library, I might as well be playing WoW on a renderfarm.
06:15.33durcynJaxon: eh, LSM's pretty lightweight, tbh, i'd be more worried about babble crap
06:15.45Apocobabblecrap
06:15.48ApocoI love it lol
06:17.06Jaxondurcyn: i already think the whole thing is silly.  Same with Locales.  I've got every translation on the svn but I really only need one.
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06:17.42durcynthat's why i drop all but enUS ;)
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06:19.24ToadkillerMmm anyone know the magic API needed to determine the charges on an item?
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06:26.50Antiarcckknight: If that's a generic complaint, given. If you have specific questions, feel free to ask - I've learned a whole lot of it through practical usage
06:26.55AntiarcIf I had time I'd write wiki docs :)
06:27.59WobWorkAntiarc: ditto =\
06:28.08ckknightwhy does Ace3 lack polish?
06:28.33AntiarcAce3 is very polished, IMO. AceConfigDialog is unpolished, though.
06:28.38AntiarcAnd that's just due to lack of use, I think.
06:28.48ckknightlack of docs = unpolished
06:28.58ckknightand AceGUI seems rife with bugs
06:29.19WobWorklack of time overall to get the docs done, I'd reckon
06:29.51AntiarcI'm an absolutely horrid documenter :P
06:30.34ckknightAntiarc: and I thought you wrote Autodoc :-P
06:30.39AntiarcI did.
06:30.42AntiarcI haven't been using it. :P
06:30.56AntiarcLike I said, I'm a -horrid- documenter :P
06:31.20Antiarc(Honestly, a lot of that is because Lua code is so damn easy to grok that I can generally pop open a source file and ctrl-f my answer faster than I can find a wiki page)
06:31.31WobWorkit's true =\
06:31.46AntiarcThat doesn't help less seasoned devs, admittedly
06:31.52AntiarcBut that's where I spend most of my reference search time
06:32.31ckknightI prefer properly documented wiki pages rather than dealing with lua files
06:32.32ToadkillerSay where does Autodoc live?
06:32.47Arrowmasterthe webserver
06:33.09Antiarcckknight: I do too, just saying that I use Lua files as a stand-in because they're as easy for me
06:33.18AntiarcToadkiller: YOu want the source, or the how-to-use?
06:33.28Toadkillerhow to use pls
06:33.40Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format
06:33.42ToadkillerLAst time i googled it I got no joy
06:33.47Toadkillertx
06:35.54ToadkillerSweet, that solves that mystery
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06:41.28WobWorkAntiarc: heh, that link to Threat-1.0 no longer exists on that page
06:41.44Antiarcyeah, I was fixing that
06:41.52AntiarcAnd just got word that one of my officers' accounts has been compromised
06:41.55AntiarcIn the process of kicking alts :/
06:42.13nevcairiellol
06:42.43AntiarcYeah, guild bank is cleaned out.
06:43.02Zeksieugh
06:43.18ckknightAntiarc: :-(
06:43.26digmouseI experience that before
06:43.38[Ammo]that's why only I can clean out the guild bank :p
06:43.49[Ammo]the rest can do an item or 2 a day
06:44.17digmousebut what's better that we only got blue equipments wiped out, and after that we have 3 to do one day
06:45.52JaxonAntiarc: our GM just had his account messed with a couple days ago, we got EVERYTHING back today, with exception to some epic gems and useless non-BoP patterns.
06:45.57JaxonIt was the quickest turnaround ever.
06:49.32ckknightokay, Cartographer3 can save settings now, it uses AceDB-3.0 currently
06:50.08CIA-4003jerry * r70696 10GridAlert/GridAlert.lua: GridAlert: fix an issue when switching templates.
06:50.17durcynckknight: should just put your commit messages in #wowwuidev-commits
06:50.28ckknightnot sure how I'd set that up
06:50.30durcynplus or minus a w or two
06:50.35ckknightnot sure it's worth the effort
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06:51.38durcynCIA can do git
06:51.48durcynit's just a commit hook
06:52.45CIA-4003toadkiller * r70697 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua AutoBarSearch.lua):
06:52.45CIA-40AutoBar :
06:52.45CIA-40-- Fix the tooltip for charged items to show charges on first found item (item that will be used on click).
06:53.49ckknightyea, I'm not sure how to set it up to interface with CIA or anything
06:54.49CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70698 10RBM/RBM_Hyjal/ (10 files in 2 dirs): RBM_Hyjal: -- Initial Commit.
06:55.52Arrowmasterhe doesnt have access to the post-commit scripts where hes hosting Cartographer3 though i bet
06:55.59kadrahilzomg
06:56.04kadrahili just got ginvited to a bt guild
06:56.20ckknightgrats
06:56.25ckknightArrowmaster: also true
06:56.27kadrahilas a sub for now
06:56.40ZeksieMake sure it's not a BlackThathom deeps guild
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06:58.01Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/mats.txt <-- stolen stuff according to the in game bank logs :(
06:58.04Antiarcwowarmory hasn't updated yet
06:58.08AntiarcI'm sure the damage is much more extensive
06:58.32Aiiane_from your guild, Antiarc?
06:58.35AntiarcYes
06:58.39AntiarcOfficer with full bank access.
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06:58.41Aiiane_:|
06:58.48AntiarcAlready been transferred off the server.
06:58.51AntiarcFucking scumbags.
06:59.01ckknightyou've informed Blizz, right?
06:59.14FtH|Daemonaopen a ticket, as fast as possible, we had that happen to a guild on the server, a quick guild member was able to get a gm fast enough to suspend the account
07:00.03Aiiane_hopefully its not too much more extensive than that?
07:00.11AntiarcI've filed a ticket
07:00.20Aiiane_at least most of the stuff I see there is fairly replaceable... lots of it, but replacable
07:00.28AntiarcIt's replacable, yes
07:00.47AntiarcBut it's costly to replace, and even worse, this was one of our two resto shaman, and our raid is going to really suck without her there while they resolve this.
07:00.53Aiiane_nods
07:01.08Civrock"HER"?
07:01.30AntiarcYeah
07:01.36FtH|Daemonabelieve it or not, there are FEMALES out there
07:01.41WobWorkomg
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07:01.47WobWorku liar
07:01.49TNZewhere=??
07:01.52Aiiane_funny how that works *rolls eyes*
07:02.01Funkeh`lol
07:02.05CivrockYeah, and you don't want them raiding in your guild, not to mention be an officer. ;)
07:02.19AntiarcShe's awesome, so you all can shove it. :P
07:02.28Funkeh`only still plays wow because of hes gf
07:02.28AntiarcReal-life friend of mine, as well.
07:02.34Aiiane_lol Funkeh`
07:02.46CivrockReal-life friend that stole your guild bank?
07:03.15AntiarcNo, no
07:03.18durcynAntiarc: pictures, go
07:03.20AntiarcIt's consistent with a hacked account
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07:03.34AntiarcLogged on, didn't say anything, stripped the gbank, gquit, transferred servers
07:03.41AntiarcProceeded to do the same with other alts for bagspace.
07:03.43CivrockOhhh, you didn't say it got hacked.
07:03.55AntiarcI kicked her last alt while they were finishing cleaning out the bank
07:03.55TNZeAntiarc, happened to us too
07:04.00AntiarcSo we have, uh, level 50ish herbs left
07:04.00Antiarc:/
07:04.25TNZeGM got hacked
07:04.40Aiiane_keyloggers ftl?
07:04.42TNZeblizzard hasn't helped us worth shit
07:04.57TNZegm still hasn't got his char back
07:05.00TNZe2 months later.
07:05.10CivrockProbably raiding with it elsewhere. ;)
07:05.15TNZenope
07:05.21TNZehe quit playing after 1 month.
07:05.30CivrockWho knows.
07:05.37TNZeI know :P
07:05.52TNZebut yeah
07:06.04TNZethis happened the week before we came to mother
07:06.14TNZeluckily, all the hods were already out of gbank for crafting :P
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07:06.34CIA-4003sayclub * r70699 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
07:06.34CIA-40AutoBar :
07:06.34CIA-40- koKR Update
07:06.39AntiarcFortunatelly
07:06.54AntiarcThis player's boyfriend has a contact at Blizzard who has helped with account restoration before :)
07:07.02TNZeuhuh
07:07.06AntiarcSo I suspect we can get this expedited without too much trouble.
07:07.11TNZehopefully :P
07:07.30TNZeanyway, has there been any big bugfixes on omen lately?
07:07.36AntiarcTaunt/growl fixes today.
07:07.37TNZepeopel have been experiencing, uhm, strange things
07:07.51TNZelike not showing up at all
07:08.32TNZeunfortunately its nothing I can help you reconstruct as it seems entirely random
07:09.28TNZebut yeah, omen is really starting to get nice all round now
07:09.38Aiiane_nods
07:09.52CIA-4003anea * r70700 10SpamSentry/ (. SpamSentry.toc compatibility.lua core.lua readme.txt):
07:09.52CIA-40SpamSentry 20080421:
07:09.52CIA-40- Updated filters
07:09.52CIA-40- Updated compatibility for WIM addon (Thanks Pazza)
07:09.59Aiiane_i havent actually had a chance to check recently, has overview mode been made to work yet? :P
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07:11.53TNZeAntiarc, have you done any tests with how much threat & how threat works with drums?
07:12.02AntiarcWhat, drums of battle?
07:12.12TNZeI frequently pull aggro at archimond when I use drums of speed at pull
07:12.17AntiarcIt's likely just ~45 threat per party member buffed.
07:12.19TNZeI use drums of speed, tank runs
07:12.22AntiarcWell, if there isn't an MD up, sure
07:12.30AntiarcAny buff you provide generates a small amount of threat
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07:12.43TNZeyeah, but it seems to generate threat after initial buff
07:12.50TNZeI can't explain it otherwise
07:12.56AntiarcMaybe it operates as a pulse or something. I dunno.
07:13.05AntiarcEither way, lern2MD :P
07:13.17TNZewe brought 0 hunters :P
07:13.30KaaosaMy guild had 0 raiding hunters for a long stretch at one point :x
07:13.31Aiiane_tsk tsk :P
07:13.35AntiarcAugh
07:13.38AntiarcHow do you raid without MD
07:13.42AntiarcIt makes everything 1000x smoother
07:13.45KaaosaIt was hard.
07:13.50TNZeye, but its not a problem
07:13.53Aiiane_its funny... our raid a couple of nights ago had 8 druids in it at one point
07:14.01TNZeproblem is
07:14.07TNZeon our server, hunters are ultimate shit
07:14.14Aiiane_2 bears, 2 kitties, and 4 trees
07:14.16TNZethey are so bad in general that people dont brign them to 5 mans
07:14.19Aiiane_wait, no, i lied
07:14.25AntiarcThat's sad
07:14.27Aiiane_1 kittie, 1 battlechicken
07:14.29TNZeso whenever a good hunter appears, they quit playing because noone dares take them to 5 man
07:14.30AntiarcGood hunters are worth their weight in hold
07:14.33Antiarcgold*
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07:14.47TNZeso the only players that keep playing hunter
07:14.55TNZeare the ones that are too lazy/stupid to do anything else
07:14.57PaeneAntiarc: When creating a TimerBar with LibBars, what exactly is orientation?
07:15.01Aiiane_hunters are one of those classes that a poor one is worthless, but a good one is amazing
07:15.08TNZeour current trial hunter does 80% of damage from autoshots
07:15.13TNZeand uses serpent sting in his rotation
07:15.16TNZehe will fail.
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07:15.40Aiiane_TNZe, what spec?
07:15.47TNZebeastmastery
07:15.47Aiiane_(i mean, that doesn't excuse anything, just curious)
07:15.48Kaaosalol TNZe
07:15.51Aiiane_o.o
07:15.54TNZehe uses multi, arcane and serpent in his rotation
07:15.57Aiiane_tell him to l2steady :|
07:16.02TNZeno shit
07:16.05charonmorning
07:16.15TNZebut we're a bt/hyjal farm guild, doing exploration in sunwell
07:16.20TNZewe can't take our time to learn people to play
07:16.22KaaosaWe had a hunter once that repeatedly Arcane Shot spellshield off that dude in Gruul that the mage tanks >_>
07:16.23Aiiane_ok, tell him to l2gtfo
07:16.31AntiarcPaene: Should the timer be anchored at the left or right
07:16.36Antiarcleft is a traditional bar
07:16.39Antiarcright is reversed
07:16.41AntiarcI want up/down too eventually
07:16.49TNZeour previous hunter that got fed up
07:16.50KaaosaThat's madness, Antiarc.
07:16.59TNZekept on beggin for spirit buff
07:17.02charonApoco: about the memory usage you mentioned yesterday... did you happen to use that new kalecgos(?) module for bigwigs that displays threat for various people?
07:17.03PaeneAntiarc: Just pass it the string left or right?
07:17.07TNZeand took gear because "it has mp5"
07:17.21KaaosaHaha
07:17.35AntiarcEither lib.LEFT_TO_RIGHT or lib.RIGHT_TO_LEFT or "LEFT" or "RIGHT"
07:17.43Paenekk
07:17.44Paenethanks
07:17.45Paene:)
07:17.51KaaosaSometimes I almost sympathize with them because my first 60 was a hunter and for a while, I was one of those people.
07:18.02KaaosaBut then I remember that I learned how to play :V
07:18.06TNZeyeh well, we tried to help her (Yes, her)
07:18.18TNZebut it was a lost cause
07:18.40Aiiane_there are 4 classes of people in wow, in my experience
07:18.50deloralawell DPS as hunter isnt really "hard work" if you have a good macro... sure, handweaving MIGHT in some situations be better...
07:18.56Aiiane_1. Those who know their stuff, but could care less about helping others
07:18.58TNZeour new feral druid who we took in as offtank is outdps'ing the bm hunters
07:19.02Aiiane_2. Those who know their stuff, and like to teach
07:19.08deloralabut with speedbuffs etc its impossible to accurately perform without a shotmacro
07:19.11Aiiane_3. Those who don't know what's going on, but are willing and able to learn
07:19.21KaaosaI could never play a hunter using a macro that did my shots for me :|
07:19.26Aiiane_4. and those who don't know what's going on, and aren't willing or able to improve
07:19.30KaaosaBecause if you take out that aspect, you're hardly even playing.
07:19.39Aiiane_2 & 3 make the best raiders
07:19.39CIA-4003elsia * r70701 10Recount/debug.lua:
07:19.39CIA-40Recount:
07:19.39CIA-40- Getting odd bug reports for the debug print not existing. This is a possible fix though either approach should have worked.
07:19.41deloralaagreed^^
07:19.43Aiiane_1 you take to fill slots
07:19.49deloralabut they DPS like hell
07:19.50Aiiane_and 4 you gkick unless you're desperate
07:20.03TNZeproblem with #3's
07:20.05KaaosaMy guild mostly has 2 and 4 :\
07:20.15TNZeis that they are usually kids
07:20.29TNZeafter a period of #3 they get 'good' due to gear and experience
07:20.32TNZeand turn into 1's
07:21.09TNZemost odd thing about my guild is that one day
07:21.12TNZewe'll have 1 mage available
07:21.15TNZeyesterday we had 6
07:21.18TNZe... in raid
07:21.24Arrowmasterwe order people around in my guild
07:21.25TNZeon bloodboil.
07:21.26Aiiane_we're sort of like that
07:21.36Aiiane_although for us it's usually hunters
07:21.42TNZe6 mages on bloodboil. Thats fun
07:21.43Aiiane_sometimes all of our hunters will be on
07:21.50Aiiane_other times they'll all have RL stuff come up
07:21.53Arrowmasterall of the officers are now afraid to touch the guild bank because the officer that runs it yelled at them all
07:22.04quiescensWorld of warcraft mage convention
07:22.07quiescensmaybe they're union
07:22.10KaaosaMY guild is full of casuals who want to ride the coattails of devoted raiders.
07:22.11TNZeheh
07:22.20KaaosaProblem is there's only like 5 of us that are those devoted raiders D:
07:22.22TNZeKaaosa, I think most guilds are like that
07:22.32TNZeits like "today: sunwell"
07:22.34TNZe20 people show up
07:22.38TNZe"today: hyjal"
07:22.43TNZe35 people show up
07:22.56Arrowmasterive seen that before
07:23.01Arrowmasterback with 40mans
07:23.11KaaosaOur Vashj days get like 23 people, our Hyjal days get tons :\
07:23.17Antiarcwe had that problem with 40-mans, and it's why we never killed C'thun
07:23.19Arrowmasterwe cleared nef every single week but could never get enought to start aq40
07:23.29AntiarcWe solved it by splitting into two raid groups, with the slackers in one and the devoted raiders in the other
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07:23.52TNZeheh
07:24.05Sole_hi guys
07:24.12TNZeanyway, the server I'm on is hell for hunters
07:24.34KaaosaI'm hoping once a guild on my server finally kills Illidan people will get their heads out of their behinds.
07:24.39Arrowmasterand i mean we killed nef the 2nd week we attempted him, and the week after we started aq40, but after that week we could never get enough for aq40
07:24.40TNZethe 3 good hunters I know about has either quit or rerolled
07:24.56Aiiane_TNZe: make people have to show up for at least standby in Sunwell to be eligible for loot in Hyjal :P
07:25.03Arrowmasterand we had just been the fastest guild to clear bwl on the server
07:25.05TNZethat will cause drama
07:25.21Aiiane_people trying to ride coattails will cause drama too
07:25.26Aiiane_just later, and bigger
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07:25.51TNZeArrowmaster`, the guild I was in pre-tbc
07:25.59TNZeI joined them as they had taken down magmadar or so
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07:26.05Aiiane_and with the former option, if someone gquit's it'll be the slackers
07:26.09TNZe1 month later we had cleared bwl .P
07:26.14Aiiane_whereas with the former, it's more likely to be the devoted raiders
07:26.18Aiiane_*whereas with the latter
07:26.34TNZeit was SUPAR FAST
07:26.46Aiiane_we had sort of a slump for a bit
07:26.48Arrowmasterhow late was what though?
07:26.53Aiiane_a few weeks where we couldn't get enough people on for raids
07:27.04Aiiane_then the next week we went from 1/6 to 4/6 SSC
07:27.06PaeneAntiarc: trying to understand this...is the frameName passed in NewBarGroup() the frame to anchor the group to? or does it create a frame with that name for you?
07:27.07TNZewhen we cleared bwl naxx was up
07:27.24AntiarcThe latter. It's in case you want a named frame. You can usually leave that blank.
07:27.29Arrowmasteryeah aq40 had just opened when we cleared bwl
07:27.34TNZeit was befor 2.0 tho
07:27.44TNZebecause I didnt have VT on my spriest
07:27.49TNZewhen we killed nef first time
07:28.16TNZewhen  I got VT I Got sillily overpowered :P
07:28.17Arrowmasternef was a fun fight, it sucks that they made him immune to curse of tonges
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07:29.36TNZenef was awesome fight
07:30.31Aiiane_nef was an awesome fight, especially when the priests conspired to ensure all of them knew which tank was on the shitlist that week.
07:31.17FtH|DaemonaNef suxx, cant cloak shadowflame :(
07:31.26Arrowmasterlol
07:31.36Arrowmastercan you still hide behind the throne?
07:31.41FtH|Daemonayup
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07:34.21CIA-4003zeksie * r70702 10XPerl/localization.lua: XPerl: Corrected some spell IDs.
07:35.09CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70703 10Hourglass/: mkdir
07:35.35Arrowmastergod damnit why does all the caster gear have to have so much fucking +hit on it
07:35.38Elkanohelp, my EBB menu is looking starnge :( http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=wowscrnshot_042108_05wy.jpg
07:35.45Arrowmasteri need new boots but the new badge boots have +hit
07:36.35Zeksieur localising is missing from looks of it.
07:36.37Prof_Albertarrowmaster: the same reasen, why the dagger doesn't have any +hit/+crit
07:37.04CIA-4003toadkiller * r70704 10AutoBar/AutoBarClassButton.lua:
07:37.04CIA-40AutoBar :
07:37.05CIA-40-- Fix cooldown for spells not showing up
07:37.36PaeneAntiarc: Last question (I hope) what is "at" in SetColorAt?
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07:38.20ZeksieElkano: The bit where it says 'An error has been detected' in the chat log might be a givaway :)
07:39.37Arrowmasterbah those boots would be such a fucking waste to get because of all the wasted spellhit =(
07:39.49Arrowmasterbut i might end up getting them anyway
07:40.27Silviu-~seen Tuller
07:40.41purltuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 8h 2s ago, saying: 'it wasn't that much code :P'.
07:41.13NeoTronBrutallus down. finally!
07:41.17NeoTrondidn't even enrage
07:41.19Silviu-gz
07:41.24NeoTrondespite ppl dying
07:41.25Zeksiegz :)
07:42.25kadrahilhttp://arenacombat.ytmnd.com/
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07:43.13evlAny way to get informtion about what temporary weapon enchant the player currently has equipped without scanning toolitp?
07:43.25kadrahilis it bad that i'm amused by that and watching it over and over again
07:43.28kadrahilbecause it hits home :(
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07:43.48MckinseyHey folks, Antiarc here
07:43.54kadrahillies
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07:44.02MckinseyAnyone know if there was a telltale payload for the virus that the WAU ads were serving?
07:44.14MckinseyI'm on the phone trying to find out what might have been the source for this thing
07:44.27MckinseyI checked for the incgamers variant, nothing there
07:44.38DiaoWAU ad virus?
07:45.34Arrowmastername was mentioned in the threads
07:45.44Silviu-haste, ping
07:45.56Arrowmasterwas some old virus a lot of virus scaners easyly picked up afaik
07:47.06FtH|Daemonayeah i think the name was mentioned in the WAU thread where one of the admins mentioned disabling adds to prevent more damage and shouting at the ads-supplier
07:47.31KaaosaWhat directory are macros stored in?
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07:47.58KaaosaNevermind, found them
07:48.53TNZegod damn
07:49.00TNZeshard of contempt is way too overpowered
07:49.05TNZewonder what nerf they are gonna give it
07:49.35ZhinjioGood evening, folks.
07:51.53Silviu-Anyone familiar with oUF and OmniCC around ? ;)
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07:53.31FtH|Daemonathey cant nerf it hard beside making the proc worse or cutting down on the expertise on it TNZe ... the proc doesnt matter and cutting the expertise they would have to add more other stats which again would make it even better cause most melee are expertise capped anyway :X
07:54.22JY`FtH|Daemona: except enh shammis :'(
07:54.28charonwell they could add something pointless
07:54.30charonSPIRIT
07:54.34charonfor example.
07:54.36JY`mp5
07:54.40TNZewowhead claims it has a 45s cooldown
07:54.42FtH|Daemonaeven you could get vashj belt + shard
07:54.49TNZebut our rogue claims it has a 40s cd
07:54.54JY`putting a hunter stat on melee trinket
07:54.55FtH|Daemona*checks enhancement set*
07:54.58TNZehe's seeing close to 50% uptime on 230 ap
07:55.14TNZe-2.75% dodge and 115 ap, shard of contempt is sooo freaking nerfbat material
07:55.26FtH|Daemonadunno, i get flamed hard each time i wear my shard over MotB :(
07:55.29FtH|Daemonaignorants
07:55.33JY`funny thing about heroic MT
07:55.49JY`i ran it once with an ebay mage
07:55.52TNZeFtH|Daemona, whats the 3rd trinket?
07:56.04FtH|DaemonaDragonspine obviously...
07:56.25TNZeand you are combat swords?
07:56.31FtH|Daemonawhich still is better for a rogue.
07:56.33TNZegetting windfury?
07:56.38FtH|Daemonai better am with orange pixels
07:56.51SroshTrinket itemisation is seriousness business because unique effects are hard to balance.
07:57.02JY`^^
07:57.04TNZebecause lets say the trinket procs every 50sec lasts 20 sec, gives 230 ap
07:57.15JY`bwl trinkets ftw
07:57.20TNZe230*20/50 = 92 PASSIVE ap
07:57.26FtH|Daemonahttp://armorylite.com/eu/Destromath/Daemona
07:57.27TNZeso there is more ap on shard than motb
07:57.30evlit has 40-50% uptime
07:57.47TNZesince hit doesn't hlep instants for rogues
07:57.50FtH|DaemonaTNZe i know shard is better
07:57.55TNZeshard already there does more
07:58.00FtH|Daemonai just get flamed for banking MotB ;)
07:58.03TNZeo
07:58.11TNZewell, I can't believe how good shard is
07:58.11FtH|Daemonaso i wear it on none-progress raids ;)
07:58.22evlhaha
07:58.26evlim using shard + dst
07:58.31evlcan't be a better combo atm
07:58.36TNZedst+shard is insane combo
07:58.59TNZe~100 ap avg, 2.75% more hits on all attacks including windfury and sword procs and instants
07:59.05KaaosaWow, Cartographer3 looks pretty impressive :o
07:59.08evlI'm more curious about my rings, using Primal Wrath + Angelistas now but I'm not sure how armor ignore works on bosses like Brut
07:59.09FtH|Daemonaif i had gotten MotB like a week before 2.4 hit and i got my shard.... i would file a ticket for bad looting....
07:59.11FtH|Daemonabut hey
07:59.13TNZe2.75% more scaling on crit
07:59.18waaaaaaAre there any addons that modify the look of the chat tabs?
07:59.18FtH|Daemonai got it for more than half a year
07:59.25evlwaaaaaa: Chatter
07:59.25FtH|Daemonaand hunters are bitching at me for banking it
07:59.31evlwaaaaaa: or haste's "Fane"
07:59.39FtH|Daemonaas if its my fault blizzard does whacky trinket design
07:59.39waaaaaawtcrap...
07:59.45TNZeFtH|Daemona, I udnerstand them, but they should understand you too :P
07:59.55grimmanevl: Will have a look, cheers.
08:00.02Zhinjio~seen Ellipsis
08:00.10purlellipsis <n=ellipsis@wsip-70-182-87-69.ok.ok.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 2h 10m 53s ago, saying: 'no'.
08:00.10TNZeMotB was by far best trinket after dst up until 2.4
08:00.10evlwho cares about trinkets
08:00.11evlgive me melee cloaks ffs
08:00.11FtH|Daemonaevl brut is 7.7k afaik
08:00.27TNZe7650?
08:00.28evlFtH|Daemona: so any point using armor ignore rings was more my question :P
08:00.43evlI'm still using fucking Drape of the Dork Reavers
08:00.53TNZeatleast you have that :P
08:01.12evland every physical dps on the planet is piling up DKP for teron's
08:01.18TNZeheh
08:01.20evland no upgrade in sight in Sunwell, GEE GEE
08:01.30TNZeI think all our melee has terons
08:01.36FtH|DaemonaStormrage -> Hard Khorium -> Ruinous Delight -> Angelistas -> primal signet -> ...
08:01.41TNZefirst time I took my resto shammy to bt, I got the axe from teron >_<
08:01.53grimmanevl: There are charts detailing how effective additional armor is at certain levels. How much it mitigates, that is. You should be able to get a fairly good idea of the effectiveness of armor ignore by checking those charts in reverse.
08:02.00FtH|Daemonaevl considered looking at cloak of fiends?
08:02.10evlFtH|Daemona: Yeah, we have 10 bears and no fiends.
08:02.15FtH|Daemona^^
08:02.27evlFtH|Daemona: and one offhand glaive in 20 kills
08:02.33evland im #3 in line
08:02.39evlI should just ebay :P
08:02.45FtH|Daemonachecks for screenshot to make evl cry
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08:02.55evlglaives > hunters > warlocks > rogues
08:02.59evlthank you blizz
08:03.14evlin order to do even competitive DPS I need dual legendary weapons
08:03.20evlnow that is some serious love
08:03.58TNZehehe
08:03.59TNZetroll rogue
08:04.21TNZedoes zerking and snd stack?
08:04.25evlofc
08:04.25FtH|Daemonasure
08:04.30evlbut bloodelf is better DPS
08:04.34TNZeand heroism + zerking?
08:04.35evltheoretically
08:04.38FtH|Daemonasure
08:04.56FtH|Daemonaand you know what? zerking at 30% hp at twins is 30% haste
08:04.57FtH|Daemona;)
08:04.57TNZeso if you zerk while you get dst proc and have heroism you have sick dps :P
08:05.21evlwho needs rogues apparently :P
08:05.30TNZeheh
08:05.32FtH|Daemonasadly i am on my laptop, so no pics upload from ... 0.24mh 0.12oh shit ;)
08:05.38TNZeO_o
08:05.42Xinhuan[4/21 15:05:26] <+Antiarc> Logged on, didn't say anything, stripped the gbank, gquit, transferred servers
08:05.46TNZewe did some funky tries
08:05.52TNZeon winterchill
08:05.53Xinhuansee Antiarc, why would a hacker PAY money to transfer servers on a hacked account?
08:05.54evleveryone was looking at the nihilum takedown and looking for rogues :D
08:06.06FtH|Daemonaobviously thats with those necro multi buff in hyjal ;)
08:06.07grimmanevl: Fane was nice. Cheers. :)
08:06.09TNZeprot warrior crit immune dw tanked in def stance
08:06.20Xinhuanor is it deducted from the current recurring payment Credit Card?
08:06.25TNZerogues still pulled aggro after doing 1 vanish
08:06.28CIA-4003elkano * r70705 10ElkBuffBars/ (7 files in 3 dirs): ElkBuffBars: finally support for localizing stuff :)
08:06.30Xinhuani always thought you had to reenter CC details to xfer
08:06.31evlXinhuan: no you need complete details to transfer
08:06.35TNZebut they had sick dps for a while :P
08:06.40durcynAntiarc: ping
08:06.53Antiarcpong
08:06.56Xinhuanso that brings back the question do they earn back more money from xferring the character
08:06.57ZhinjioXinhuan: g'morning.
08:07.07ZhinjioAntiarc: Elkano : g'day
08:07.13Xinhuanit just doesn't really make sense, you know
08:07.19Antiarcheya
08:07.25evlXinhuan: Depends on what realm you transfer too
08:07.33hasteSilviu-: pong
08:07.34AntiarcIf they transfer to a realm with free xfers...
08:07.47Xinhuanthat seems very unlikely :o
08:07.55evlFtH|Daemona: I've been carrying hard khorium choker mats for 9 sunwell raids now with me, need drop :D
08:07.58Xinhuanfree xfers are only *from* certain realms isn't it?
08:08.02FtH|Daemonathere is stupid egomanistic DW warrior on my server that did a dps movie on winterchil / anetheron .... he managed 6k dps and spiked as high as 10k ... single target ... but he is an idiot, cause he had the tank build threat for 3 minutes and got parries while executing ....
08:08.14Antiarcrofl
08:08.19evl3 minutes :D
08:08.24durcynAntiarc: muddling through AnimateToGroup, but don't see a way to do it based on duration.. does that exist, or should I keep it in my wrapper?
08:08.26the-golemweird
08:08.42evlshows how useful fury DPS really is when you have a dps class without a threat wipe
08:08.48durcynAntiarc: i.e. once it hits a threshhold, animate to emphasis anchor
08:08.49Antiarcdurcyn: You'd have to register for a timeleft callback
08:08.53AntiarcThen call the animate
08:09.04FtH|Daemonaevl... best is... he is orc using a season3 sword mainhand ;)
08:09.08the-golemwhat are possible reasons that certain scroll areas of parrot dont show?
08:09.13ElkanoZeksie, actually, that screenshot was 100% intentional ^^
08:09.14durcynAntiarc: oh, super.
08:09.28Zeksiehokay :)
08:09.41TNZelol
08:09.52TNZewarriors having high dps while executing? omg? surpriez?
08:10.08FtH|Daemonathe-golem probably parrot not being 100% 2.4 compatible and the author not having time to work on parrot2 ?
08:10.14FtH|Daemona~parrot
08:10.15purlfrom memory, parrot is the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF, or http://www.lobstertech.com/code/phoneparrot/, or a floating combat text addon for WoW
08:10.15TNZeI'm sure rogues would have decent dps if they were stuck on 5 cp's
08:10.21CivrockIt's the Necro buff, nothing else and not hard to do good DPS with on 2-3 bosses where available.
08:10.27AntiarcI can do 12,000 DPS
08:10.31AntiarcGranted, for a very short time
08:10.45AntiarcLike a quarter second
08:10.50FtH|DaemonaAntiarc wellllllllllllllllllllllll ,)
08:11.12JY`i do 40k dps
08:11.15the-golemhmm
08:11.16JY`for a long time
08:11.20JY`bombing run
08:11.25JY`:D
08:11.27the-golemdidn't realize there was a parrot2 int eh works
08:11.30Prof_Albertthe-golem: the whole scrollareas don't show?
08:11.33the-golemin the*
08:11.46Prof_Albertor just some events in the areas?
08:11.55the-golemProf_Albert: hmm, lemme double check
08:12.00FtH|DaemonaAntiarc if you do 3k backstabs your rawk !
08:12.07evldaggers exist?
08:12.11evlthis must be an error
08:12.24AntiarcI was mutilate tonight just for the hell of it
08:12.27FtH|Daemonaevl i got every single epic dagger in the game ...
08:12.28Antiarc4k mutilates are fun
08:12.31TNZeI thought daggers were ironforge/ogrimmar gear
08:12.31evlI thought they were put in the game to make use of the graphics
08:12.43FtH|Daemonaspare the sunwell ones which gladly didnt drop yet
08:12.45TNZefor healers
08:12.56AntiarcOur first Shard of Azzinoth went to a priest
08:13.02TNZeas it should
08:13.05AntiarcIndeed
08:13.06FtH|Daemonabest decision ever Antiarc
08:13.08evlFtH|Daemona: tbh, swords still feels wrong and wrong. it's only in wow that the rogue class has been good with swords :P
08:13.12FtH|Daemonai got our first one master looted
08:13.13AntiarcHe uses it to piss off mages
08:13.17FinalXfeels the love as a priest
08:13.21FtH|Daemonaand told
08:13.24evlyeah gotta love that shard of azzinoth, half the item level wasted on that retard proc :D
08:13.26FtH|Daemonathe next 2 IDs you raid dagger
08:13.29FtH|Daemonai was like WTF
08:13.30CIA-4003toadkiller * r70706 10AutoBar/AutoBarOptions.lua:
08:13.30CIA-40AutoBar :
08:13.30CIA-40-- Remove reset options till they are implemented.
08:13.31FinalXI got like all Karazhan gear I can wield on my priest <3
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08:13.48the-golemaaah
08:13.59FinalXdon't raid much else atm, just finished grinding up epic flight money for my dr00d
08:14.03TNZeFtH|Daemona, you shoudl go shadowstep-hemo-daggers and own up on dps.
08:14.15the-golemfor some reason, outgoing melee damage was turned off
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08:14.20evlyeah, bank those useless glaives :D
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08:14.24TNZeindeed.
08:14.30Prof_Albertthe-golem: turned it back on?
08:14.34FtH|Daemonayou gonna laugh, we rotated offtanking gruuls strike with 3 shadowstep rogues ^^
08:14.49FtH|Daemonaevery time cheat death proc'D we just would move out of melee range
08:14.50Antiarchahah, nice
08:14.55FinalXlol
08:14.59AntiarcGhostly Strike + Cheat Death for the win
08:14.59TNZewtf lol :P
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08:15.32FtH|Daemonathe excessive hemo charges were a bit wasted though :X
08:16.17AntiarcHonestly
08:16.21AntiarcIf you're running 3 shadowstep rogues
08:16.29AntiarcYou probably aren't worried about min-maxing the raid :P
08:16.46FtH|Daemonai rather need to get that gem vendor active on our server
08:16.53FtH|Daemonaneed to gem my tanking gear ^^
08:17.06Zhinjioso many bugs to work on, so little time.
08:17.13Zhinjioat least I can pick and choose what to work on.
08:17.16CIA-40037destiny * r70707 10BigWigs/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): BigWigs: Fixed externals and embeds(CallbackHandler-1.0)
08:17.19Maeloshey anti, had an omen suggestion for the threat warning -- wondering if it would be possible to have the warning become progressively more annoying as you reach 115%
08:17.29AntiarcHeh
08:17.31Maelos:)
08:17.37AntiarcPossible, sure, but I don't think I want to put that in :)
08:17.54MaelosMaybe it could be an option "Super Annoying Mode, ON"
08:17.55FtH|Daemonayeah, you better put those pullout bars back in
08:17.55FtH|Daemona!
08:18.00durcynAntiarc: which brings me to my next question.. does that callback exist yet in the branch version, or is it not committed =P
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08:18.09AntiarcHm, maybe it's not committe
08:18.10AntiarcLet me check
08:18.31PaeneAntiarc: How do I set the color of a bar in the bar group?
08:18.38evlSpeaking of annoying, my reminder mod is soon done \o/
08:18.41MaelosActually what I was thinking was having it warn you for each increment past the threshold
08:18.51Antiarc:RegisterTimeLeftTrigger
08:18.52MaelosFor example, if it's set to 95%, it should warn you again at 100%, again at 105%, etc
08:19.02MaelosRight now it just warns once you cross the threshold
08:19.07AntiarcPaene: group:GetBar("name"):SetColor(r,g,b) should work
08:19.18MaelosMaybe call it warning interval, and make it configurable
08:19.19PaeneAntiarc: Thanks
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08:23.16PaeneAntiarc: SetColor doesn't appear to be a function?
08:24.01AntiarcOh
08:24.08Paenelol
08:24.12durcynSetColor's valid for anchors, not bars iirc
08:24.21AntiarcI deprecated that and didn't put the new functions in yet
08:24.28Paeneah ic
08:24.31Paenealso
08:24.37PaeneI'm getting an error when bars complete
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08:24.48grimmanFtH|Daemona: Cheat Death is wildly funny, I've been tanking a few bosses myself lately. :P That + evasion == win.
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08:25.03Paene[2008/04/21 04:23:15-98-x1]: LibBars-1.0\LibBars-1.0.lua:938: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'period' (a nil value)
08:25.20Antiarcwhat error?
08:25.22TNZemm
08:25.28TNZewe fucked up yesterdays mother kill somewhat
08:25.34TNZerogues were tanking her the last 8%
08:25.53durcynPaene: are you using SetFlashPeriod on the group?
08:25.58Paenenope
08:26.03Antiarchm
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08:26.16TNZe<3 teleport on top of tank
08:26.22durcynmight toss in a :SetFlashPeriod(0) until it defaults to something =P
08:26.28Paene:-p
08:26.30Paenekk
08:27.33CIA-4003antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r70709 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Added lock/unlock for groups, fixed the period defaults for flash
08:27.43Paene:)
08:28.46ToadkillerSo whats libbars?  Is there docs somewhere?
08:28.54AntiarcNo docs yet
08:29.00Paeneit's under development
08:29.10ToadkillerIt makes .. bars?
08:29.11Paenebut it's a nicer version of candybars for Ace3
08:29.14PaeneI like it so far
08:29.16Toadkillerah
08:29.20Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_041608_044320.jpg
08:29.28Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_041608_194803.jpg
08:29.30AntiarcThat sort of stuff.
08:30.57Orionshockwas there a rewrite to chronometer somewhere?
08:31.05ZhinjioToadkiller!
08:31.10Zhinjioholy crap. been awhile.
08:31.41Xinhuanhe's been kiling toads, give him a break :)
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08:32.42ToadkillerYeah lets see, I levelled my hunter to 70, that took a good month, extensive vacation, month, the usual winter diseases, a good 2-3 weeks.  Next thing u know its April!
08:32.57Zhinjioamen to that.
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08:33.20ToadkillerToday I got bored & made the alpha into the new AutoBar beta!
08:33.28PaeneAntiarc: Any way to set a function to run when the timer finishes yet?
08:33.41Orionshockah fk... Toadkiller that update reset all my bars...
08:33.45Orionshockwtf... :\
08:33.47PaeneI see TimerFinished(), but I don't think that's what I want
08:33.53AntiarcTimerFinished callback
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08:33.57ZhinjioI've been keeping an eye on it.
08:33.58Antiarcbar.RegisterCallback(self, "TimerFinished")
08:34.04Zhinjiolast alpha I tried had too many issues to be usable.
08:34.08ToadkillerYeha bars are obsolted.  all your categories should have survived!
08:34.12Antiarcthen you have self:TimerFinished(event, bar, barName)
08:34.13Paenekk
08:34.16Toadkiller*obsoleted
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08:34.46ToadkillerThe new pref system should make it real easy to set things up multi-character
08:34.54CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70710 10Hourglass/ (Hourglass.toc core.lua embeds.xml locale-enUS.lua): Start porting to Ace3/LibBars. Spell cooldowns are all screwed up, don't use yet.
08:37.08Zhinjiotk: if you're actively developing on it... I'll get it in my setup right quick
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08:39.15PaeneAntiarc: I don't think I'm following how to do that (sorry if I'm annoying you)
08:39.23AntiarcHave you used CallbackHandler?
08:39.31Paenenope
08:39.33Paenenever used it before
08:39.38FtH|DaemonaToadkiller does that imply that if i update my atb i gonna get it to fix my "look its a food icon but its a flask tooltip, so its really a flask dont click me if you want to eat the food" fixed?
08:40.05FtH|Daemona(which can be randomly replaced with any tooltip/icon combination)
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08:41.36AntiarcPaene: http://pastey.net/86146
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08:41.59Daemonagreat moment for a disc...
08:42.05ToadkillerFtH|Daemona: hmmm, ive never heard of that but if u get that to happen log it so I can fixit.  There was a bug where people could disable AutoBAr in the gui then have it sit there like a lump not doing squat.  Maybe that happenned to u?
08:42.11PaeneAntiarc: awesome, thanks
08:42.45Antiarc(that applies to all callbacks the lib provides, btw)
08:42.51Daemonanope its fully functional but there seems to be occasions when the furthest right sloth on my 5slot atb isnt applied correctly.
08:43.10ZhinjioI've had it disabled and not visible, and still get tooltips when I mouseover where it was *grin*
08:44.05Daemonaguess i just gonna do my usual "f5 f10" before logging in and check it out ;)
08:44.14Toadkillerhaha yeah I never wrote any code to disable it.  Ace jsut stopped sending events I think so it seemed broken.  A lot of people are suprprised by the working version after /rl to update buttons in the past
08:44.29ZhinjioI've got probably two weeks of dealing with the bugs people are posting for the beta my own thing... but after that, I'll be ready for doing some more testing and such
08:45.16Zhinjiospeaking of ... I should get on jira and look at what I want to fix next
08:45.35Toadkillerwhat are yo working on?
08:45.42Daemonaso... how many dailies do i do today? i guess only the one for the gem vendor -.-
08:46.27Daemona... i h8 you toadkiller ... ;)
08:46.35ToadkillerI do a full The ISland set for one of my alts each day + fishing & food.  Its like 17 dailies & 4k g so far
08:46.45Daemonagoes fixing his 1x5 bar back to what it was from the 4 bars it is now?
08:47.45PaeneAntiarc: w00t, thanks again, all I need now is some coloring :-p
08:47.53Antiarcwhatcha making?
08:48.06Paenecooldown timers for Cryolysis2
08:48.11Paeneand eventually debuff timers
08:48.12Antiarcnice
08:48.22NeoTronused magictargets tonight - it was pretty hot in Hyjal
08:48.45ZhinjioSKG. SuicideKingsGeo ... loot distribution plugin. I release a public beta sat.morning.
08:49.24ToadkillerOh right, I remember the syncronization discussion for that
08:49.30Zhinjioyup.
08:50.15DaemonaToadkiller i got 3 exalted toons... back to autobar -> notice the empty 1x5 at the right wing of my drake next to the combat log? http://i28.tinypic.com/vq649l.jpg
08:50.17ToadkillerThe koolest mod ive seen lately is Group Calendar.  Our guild started using it for scheduling raids & stuff
08:50.42Zhinjiowe used that too until the number of people using it made it impossible to sync anymorel
08:50.42Aiiane_It's handy, yes.
08:51.03NeoTronAntiarc: I had this nice issue where MT added all totems on the list of targets
08:51.15Aiiane_Zhinjio: just got updated to 4.0, supposedly with better sync code
08:51.16NeoTronand they weren't removed so I had a lot of bars on illidan :P
08:51.22ToadkillerDaemona: ok whats supposed to be in the 1x5?
08:51.38ZhinjioAiiane_: unfortunately, I'm going to have a very hard time convincing my guild to use it again.
08:51.43Daemonathats where my autobar was when i logged out yesterday before i updated atb today ;)
08:51.47Daemonaand logged in 3 min ago
08:51.47Zhinjiowhether I'm for it or not.
08:52.01Daemonanow its somewhere left center screen see it? ;)
08:52.02ZhinjioIt cause serious issues for folks, and alot of negative sentiment
08:52.02AntiarcNeoTron: Check hostility and make sure they're hostile, not neutral
08:52.03Aiianestupid underscore
08:52.04AntiarcThat should solve it
08:52.13AiianeZhinjio: i can understand that
08:52.16Antiarctotems register as neutral/outsider when they spawn
08:52.21AntiarcOr just ignore SPELL_SUMMON
08:52.23Zhinjiolots of people who signed up for stuff and it never sync'd back to raid leaders, etc.
08:52.30ToadkillerDaemona: ok shidt click on your AutoBAr icon to see where the bars are at then drag em around...
08:53.09Zhinjiowe hit issues when we hit about.... 40 active raiders
08:53.14Zhinjiowell, no.
08:53.15NeoTronAntiarc: well I think I might just stick to iterating targets
08:53.17Zhinjioissues began before then
08:53.21Aiianehmm, that's odd Zhinjio
08:53.26Zhinjiobut by the time we had 40 actives... it was impossible
08:53.28NeoTronit works sufficiently well in a raid
08:53.30Aiianebecause we have about that many, and didnt have problems
08:53.41ToadkillerDaemona: YOU CAN ALSO CTRL-CLICK TO GET IN MOVE BUTTONS MODE WHICH LETS YOU DRAG & DROP REARRANGE THEM ON A BAR
08:53.48NeoTronI had another issue with the shadowfiend things
08:53.50Toadkillergah caps
08:53.51ZhinjioI was watching the addon channel, and the amount of traffic there was ... unreal.
08:53.52Aiianegogo power capslock
08:53.55NeoTronif they inftected someone they don't die
08:54.00Daemonahey i may use a female denoted name, but i am neither deaf nor stupid ;)
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08:54.17Daemonaand i guess i will have to just re-setup atb :/
08:54.54Toadkiller;-p  <--- sausage fingers, cant type apparently
08:55.01Arrowmasterlast time i used GroupCalendar that damn thing wouldnt shut up, i swear there was constant messages in the addon channel for it
08:55.13Daemonathe rightclick lockpick, leftclick open is nifty though... it doesnt respect autoloot settings it seems.
08:55.14Zhinjioit was constant, yes
08:55.19Toadkillerweird those should be private...
08:55.22Zhinjiowith constant throttling
08:55.41ToadkillerIt does take its sweet time syncing tho
08:55.47GngskDaemona, what addon?
08:55.58Gngskoh, autobar?
08:56.00Daemonayes
08:56.12Gngskahh, need to add a shift-click attribute I guess
08:56.20SunTsuToadkiller: Latest Alpha has Combo food broken, or so it seams
08:56.24Daemonai got autoloot on as default
08:56.27ToadkillerYeah I decided to stir up the ants nest and make the alpha of AutoBAr go beta today
08:57.16ToadkillerSunTsu: broken how?  It should show up with combo food & biscuits having priority
08:57.50Paeneanyone else run across weird behavior with events?  For example, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED passes an additional argument to itself now...it's literally passing it's own event name, and then everything else.
08:57.59SunTsuToadkiller: It won't show up for me at all, deDE, I have to force it. But then it just shows the biscuits, but I can't use the button
08:58.25DaemonaToadkiller want some feedback in query?
08:58.37Toadkillerok lemme check the locale file & make sure its all there
08:58.47Toadkillerfeedback in what?
08:58.53SunTsuToadkiller: In deDE the new quest items are missing, too
08:58.54Daemonairc whisper ;)
08:58.58Daemonapm
08:59.02Daemonacall it whatever you like
08:59.03Toadkilleroh sure
08:59.21SunTsuDaemona: You forgot /msg ;)
08:59.47Daemonai usually use /query, it opens a new window, so its more convenient ;)
09:00.10PaeneI wonder if that's Ace3 passing the extra info
09:00.47ToadkillerSunTsu: the quest items should show up regardless of locale...
09:00.55AntiarcThat's AceEvent, yes
09:01.03AntiarcBecause sometimes you'll have one handler handling multiple events
09:01.05durcynPaene: yes, AceEvent-3.0 adds the event name as the first param, you'll need to shift
09:01.08AntiarcAnd you'll want the event name
09:01.44ZhinjioSunTsu: ther eare a bunch of new quests items in Quel'Danas that aren't added into LPT yet
09:01.57Paenekk
09:02.11SunTsuZhinjio: Ah, OK, then the forum thread misleaded me
09:02.22Zhinjio<-- haven't read forum thread.
09:03.41Zhinjioand ... SunTsu, btw ... its "misled"
09:03.47Zhinjiojust for reference.
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09:05.48kadrahilwho was it that was asking if bigwigs bars were broken
09:05.58kadrahili'm doing the config test and they aren't showing up for me either
09:06.24vithoskadrahil: they are for me, i just updated
09:06.31kadrahilah
09:06.35kadrahili hope that gets fixed soon
09:06.51vithosi noticed a commit note like "fix LSM-3"
09:06.58vithoswhich would be the bar textures
09:07.11kadrahilah
09:08.31kadrahilvithos: i got in a bt/hyjal guild :)
09:08.34ToadkillerSunTsu: All right I think I know what happenned, I updated PT3.1 too soon b4 the AutoBar release  &apparently it then pumped out AutoBar without the latest PT3.1
09:08.42kadrahilthey're 5/5 hyjal and i think 3 or 4 into bt
09:09.03vithoscool, i hope it works out well for you
09:09.10kadrahilthanks
09:09.53Daemonabigwigs bars are ok for me
09:09.59Daemonaupdated like 15 minutes ago
09:10.34SunTsuZhinjio: Ah, sorry
09:10.44SunTsuZhinjio: Thanks
09:11.07ToadkillerDaemona: Ok looking over your screen grab I found the AutoBars!  The basic bar is behind & left of your target frame or char frame, the class bar is above that, looks like lockbox button?  the extras one above that, fishing & pets?
09:11.21Hjaltefuck
09:11.23Hjaltemeh
09:11.26Hjalteumm
09:11.28Hjaltei meant hi
09:11.43kadrahil>.
09:11.44kadrahil>
09:12.08Daemonatoadkiller either you are funny or making fun of me :(
09:12.09SunTsuToadkiller: Great, so I can hope ;) thanks for looking into it
09:12.58CIA-4003paene * r70711 10Cryolysis2/ (Cryolysis2.lua buttons/sphere.lua core/events.lua embeds.xml):
09:12.58CIA-40Cryolysis2:
09:12.58CIA-40- Have everything load during OnEnable instead of PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
09:12.58CIA-40- Re-added cooldown timers (colors not working...waiting on LibBars update)
09:12.58CIA-40- Re-added sheep timer (no color here either)
09:12.58CIA-40- Fixed main sphere not updating properly
09:13.06ToadkillerDaemona: wait, didnt u post a link to a screen grab?
09:13.21Daemonawell nonetheless whats strange too, [x] move bars, [ ] extras bar, [ ] move bars -> the green move bar stays for the extras bar
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09:14.22ToadkillerDaemona: Oh yeah, theres an outstanding bug with disabling a bar while in move bar mode.  jsut go back into mode enable it, then out of the mode & disable it from the gui
09:15.22Daemonagonna fetch breakfast and annoy you some more, check the pics i PMd you
09:15.23Daemona;)
09:16.09CIA-40037destiny * r70712 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua:
09:16.09CIA-40Recount:
09:16.09CIA-40- koKR Update
09:19.33Xinhuan~dict bacon
09:19.43kadrahildo a lot of you guys use autobar
09:20.08Xinhuan~dict 2 bacon
09:20.22Zhinjio<-- uses autobar.
09:20.35Xinhuan~dict 3 bacon
09:20.41SunTsuToadkiller: BTW: Great work with AutoBar. One of the few addons I can hardly live without
09:21.18SunTsuXinhuan: Please, stop it, I'm getting hungry already by reading the word bacon again and again
09:21.29Xinhuanits not telling me what bacon is ;d
09:21.33Xinhuanwell not 2/8 and 3/8 anyway
09:21.35Xinhuan~dict 4 bacon
09:21.40CIA-4003ammo 07RC1 * r70713 10Ace3/AceConsole-3.0/AceConsole-3.0.lua:
09:21.40CIA-40Ace3 - AceConsole-3.0:
09:21.41CIA-40Check all slash commands when registering instead of only the AceConsole-3.0 ones.
09:21.49Xinhuanwow 1/8 and 4/8 gives identical results
09:21.52Xinhuanmuch fail
09:22.45Toadkillerkadrahil: Did you have an AutoBAr question?
09:24.37vithosToadkiller: i just tried to name a custom button and it disappeared
09:26.22vithosi found it in the dropdown for add button, and it was added to the list in the config again, but it's still not back on the actual bar
09:26.58kadrahilToadkiller: no, i am just trying it out
09:27.17kadrahiland getting errors
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09:33.29vithoshow is move the buttons supposed to work btw?
09:38.45kadrahilaww
09:38.52kadrahilhunters marking a fel reaver doesn't fill the screen anymore
09:38.52kadrahilt.t
09:41.32Kaaosalol
09:47.16Toadkillervithos: did u add the custom button to a bar or jsut to the buttons section?
09:48.41vithosto a bar
09:49.43vithosbasic > buttons > new.  added some food categories, then typed in a new name for it and hit enter
09:49.46Orionshocklol Vashj = Razorgore Jr.
09:49.54CIA-4003ammo 07RC1 * r70714 10Ace3/Ace3.lua: Ace3 - silently fail on very common chatcommands in Ace3 standalone /print and /rl mainly.
09:50.30Toadkillervithos: nm its erorring out.
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09:53.13CIA-4003stan * r70715 10ClassTimer/Bars/Warrior.lua: ClassTimer: fix Thunder Clap
09:56.27Toadkillervithos: Ok looks like theres something bad adding the custom button to the bar then renaming.  If you add the button under the buttons section, then you can rename it no problem.  after that add it to the bar
09:57.32CIA-4003stan * r70716 10ClassTimer/Bars/Hunter.lua: ClassTimer: added Aimed Shot
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10:00.58CIA-40AutoBar:
10:00.58CIA-40- Update zhTW localization. (Need to decorate)
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10:07.46TheZankeis there a way to write an addon that will show the happiness (using faces) of all of the hunter pets in my group on a bar?
10:08.13odtsmiley faces
10:08.23ramoz:) :| :(
10:08.54TheZankethat would work.. i am just 5-boxing hunters and wanna see the happiness of all the pets on my main screen
10:08.56TheZankeat all times
10:09.34odtcrazy
10:09.39Arrowmasterlol
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10:10.00TheZankebecause i just had every pet run away at the same time
10:10.06TheZankegranted I am only lvl 10
10:10.07TheZankebut yeah
10:10.11Arrowmasterhahaha
10:10.19digmouseand remind them of their pet are unhappy?
10:10.20TheZanke^.^
10:10.51TheZankedoesnt have to remind the character digmouse, I am playing all 5
10:11.22digmouseone... all 5?
10:11.58vithosyou'd have to sync the value of GetPetHappiness() and run the addon on all of the characters
10:12.10digmousethat's it
10:12.12TheZankeI can do that
10:12.18TheZankethe 4 alts are all on one pc
10:12.23TheZankeso It shouldnt be too hard
10:12.38TheZankeby pc i mean laptop lol
10:13.18digmouseuse sync, that should do, GetPetHappiness()
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10:13.24TheZankeand is it possible to make a macro to feed pet without clicking anything?
10:13.41TheZankeor feed other someone elses pet lol
10:13.46vithosyes zanke, just /use the food after /casting feed pet
10:13.57vithosyou can only feed your own pet
10:13.57TheZankehott
10:15.10CIA-4003toadkiller * r70718 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarClassBar.lua AutoBarOptions.lua):
10:15.10CIA-40AutoBar :
10:15.10CIA-40-- Fix rename of Custom Buttons from the Bar Button List.
10:15.55phyberIf I do 'GetAddOnMetadata("AddOn", "Notes")' on a client with a deDE (or some other non-english locale), will that command fetch the Notes-deDE from the TOC?
10:17.10phyberhmm, n/m.  it seems that it does.
10:17.18digmousehow is cart3's memory and cpu usage?
10:19.03TheZankelow
10:19.06TheZankereally low
10:19.37digmousethe amount?
10:19.40TheZankeckknight: Cart2 = 1-2% CPU usage, Cart3 = 0.1-0.2% CPU usage
10:19.52digmouseand memory?500L
10:19.55digmouse*K?
10:20.02TheZankeidk if he mentioned that
10:20.13ckknighthrm, I think it's around 450 KiB
10:20.16ckknightnot positive
10:20.21digmousethanks
10:20.21TheZankeaha
10:20.29TheZankedid me posting your name beep you?
10:20.36ckknightin any event, it will bloat over time as I add more features
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10:20.43ckknightbut I want to keep it pretty efficient
10:21.29TheZankeckknight, any further advancements since lastnight?
10:21.48ckknightTheZanke: it'll save state now on reloads and logout
10:21.56ckknightand if you die, you'll be able to see your corpse
10:22.00Toadkillervithos: When you are in move buttons mode (purple bar background) you can left-click-drag the buttons & then drop them on the target button where u want them.  This can be on another bar as well.  Bars also have a blank drop spot that will hilite when you are over it.
10:22.02ckknightand a few bugfixes
10:22.10TheZankeckknight ah so no more resizing?
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10:22.19ckknightwell, you'd do it once
10:22.23TheZankeright
10:22.30TheZankeper character
10:23.26TheZankeI am probably going to start using it now .. only problem i have is sometimes i do need to see the normal map for the labels ;_; and my resolution is high to where i cant see it from the zoom needed
10:24.16TheZankebut its freaking amazing.. I have been showing it to all my friends (i run a 12 seat lan party every weekend)
10:24.57Cheadsckknight will it eventually be possible to change the zoom speed when you get closer to a release version?
10:25.09Cheads.. without modifying the lua =)
10:25.13ckknightactually, you can now if you want to hack Constants.lua :-P
10:25.19Cheadshehe
10:25.23ckknightdo you think it should be faster or slower or what?
10:25.24Cheadsyeah noticed that
10:25.29CIA-40037destiny * r70719 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua:
10:25.29CIA-40GridStatusRaidDebuff:
10:25.29CIA-40- Eredar Twins: Restored "Flame Sear" and Removed "Pyrogenics", added "Dark Strike"
10:25.44ckknightTheZanke: labels?
10:25.45CheadsI thnik it should be faster, but I'm sure many people think it's just fine as it is now
10:25.57TheZankeckknight, like "Aldor rise" etc
10:26.03TheZankei mean
10:26.07TheZankeI know where THAT is
10:26.13TheZankebut its and example lol
10:26.26ckknightoh, I'm gonna add a toggle to switch between minimap-style textures and artistic textures
10:26.41TheZankeyay! that was what you had me report yesterday
10:26.50TheZankesaid you wouldnt be able to remember lol
10:27.16CIA-4003phyber * r70720 10ManaPerc/Locales/ (zhCN.lua zhTW.lua):
10:27.16CIA-40ManaPerc:
10:27.16CIA-40- Use GetAddOnMetadata for the addon title and description, instead of duplicating those things in the Locale files.
10:28.55ckknightTheZanke: it really should be on jira...
10:28.58CIA-4003phyber * r70721 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua:
10:28.59CIA-40ManaPerc:
10:28.59CIA-40- Meh, committed the TOC instead of the Lua.
10:29.07CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70722 10Hourglass/ (Hourglass.toc core.lua): clean up a bit, perhaps make emphasis work
10:29.15TheZankeckknight, i put it on there, along with waypoint to friends
10:29.22ckknightah, okay
10:30.15Silviu-ckknight easy way to download Cart3 ? ;-) i had to enter each file and save target as .. ;p ( i don`t have git)
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10:30.35ckknightoh, there's a download as tarball if you log in
10:30.39ckknightlemme get you the link
10:30.41ckknight~cartographer3
10:30.43purlcartographer3 is probably the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/trees/master (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
10:30.52ckknighthttp://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/b5a5d0deb75b002c9fcba3f65a80342f6aa90c06.tar.gz
10:31.12Silviu-thx
10:31.13Silviu-:D
10:31.18Toadkilleruhm wahts cart3?  is it different from the cart in wowace?  which do i use?
10:31.26phyberIs that ever going to be in the wowace svn or should I be haxing my update script to grab from git? ;)
10:31.27durcynhm, there's no 'latest' tarball per branch?
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10:31.49Arrowmasterhttp://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz seems to work
10:32.10luxusdoes anyone get a libbars addon to work?
10:32.36harldephinargh.. i've got a problem. i'm writing "C" every 10 seconds in the guild channel and only when i'm in an instance and i've got absolutely no idea where it's coming from.
10:32.38durcynphyber: [ -d ${1}/.svn ] && svn up ${1} ; [ -d ${1}/.git ] && pushd $1 && git-pull && popd
10:32.56durcynphyber: works like a charm
10:32.58ckknightArrowmaster: really?
10:33.09Arrowmasteryeah
10:33.27Arrowmasteri tried it as a wild guess and it worked on the first try
10:33.30Silviu-ckknight u can modify it then in purl ;p so ppl could download "faster" ;-)
10:33.32durcynharldephin: libguildpositions.. update.
10:33.36ckknightwill do
10:33.46ckknightoh yea, Cart3 now requires AceDB-3.0
10:33.49ckknightso you all know
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10:33.53harldephindurcyn: ok. will do.
10:34.26durcynluxus: i've got several addons using LibBars atm, what makes you ask?
10:34.46ckknightpurl, no cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/9
10:34.46purlokay, ckknight
10:34.57Arrowmastertoo long
10:35.24Arrowmaster~cartographer3
10:35.25purlextra, extra, read all about it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/9
10:35.45ckknightblast.
10:35.57Arrowmasterhow do you get purl to not add the random prefix
10:36.03luxusdurcyn: i can't get it work :D if i understand it right, its not a standalone lib. but even when i download the file from files.wowace.com i get a error about missing libbars library
10:36.05Toadkillerneato, ill have to check it out sometime then.
10:36.19ckknightpurl, no cartographer3 is <reply>cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component. Video
10:36.20purlckknight: okay
10:36.21durcynArrowmaster: <reply>
10:36.32Vangualuse tinyurl to shorten the text?
10:36.34Arrowmaster~cartographer3
10:36.35purlcartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component. Video
10:37.22phyberhttp://www.vimeo.com/9 = The Story of Milka.  Interesting, but not very related ;)
10:37.22durcynluxus: it's an embedded mixin, if the externals are set correctly it shouldn't need to be installed by itself.
10:37.44durcynluxus: if you're running no-externals, well, then you're smart enough to figure out how to get it with externals and copy it out =P
10:37.50xemacshmm
10:37.59xemacsany advantages with cartographer3ß
10:38.04ckknight~cartographer3
10:38.05purlextra, extra, read all about it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
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10:38.09ckknightthere we go
10:38.34ckknightxemacs: it's "shiny"
10:38.44xemacsokay :D
10:38.48xemacsill give it a try ;)
10:38.49ckknightit's also not released, currently alpha, I'd say
10:38.58xemacsah okay :D
10:39.00Arrowmastercheckout the video on vimeo
10:39.30xemacshey i like the layout :)
10:39.32xemacssexy :)
10:39.38CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70723 10Hourglass/: externals
10:39.56xemacsit would also nice to have the possibility to open up instance maps by clicking on the entrance on the map :)
10:40.32ckknightyea, that's planned
10:40.38ckknightbasically a button you can press
10:40.41Brunersckknight: that looks really cool!
10:41.21ckknightI'm still thinking of a good way to handle instances, dealing with BabbleZone is a bitch :-P
10:41.30ckknightI don't think I can get around that, though
10:41.58SunTsuAny screenshots for guys who can't watch the video?
10:42.08ckknighta screenshot wouldn't do much
10:42.14ckknightit just looks like a map.
10:42.44Brunerskinda have to look at the video:P
10:43.25ckknighthypercubes are neat.
10:43.48Vangualany chance on getting a vertical (or horizontal) slider linked to the zoomlevel? I noticed on my laptop yesterday that the lack of mousewheel kinda breaks carto3
10:44.02Deloralaladamn that cart3 video is awsome!
10:44.12ckknightVangual: hrm, file a jira ticket?
10:44.19Vangualckknight: will do
10:44.50ckknightDeloralala: well, you're free to try it out, as long as you promise to report bugs and feature requests ;-)
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10:45.25xemacsckknight, what about "routes" and stuff like that? for gathering
10:45.31phyberckknight: you and your cartographer 3 are crazy!  what kind of voodoo is this? :o
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10:45.40ckknightI support Routes, TomTom, Gatherer, GatherMate, and QuestHelper
10:45.41phybercontinues watching video
10:45.48ckknightat least, that's what I've tested to work
10:46.24durcynckknight: that reminds me, is it intentional that overlays from those addons fade out with the cart border?
10:46.43Deloralalaso it even shows partymembers etc etc when zoomed out completely? (3 continents view)
10:46.53ckknightdurcyn: you mean like mining nodes?
10:46.55ckknightor what?
10:46.59xemacsckknight but you should "pimp" the overview, where you can see the 3 continents .. still looks kinda ugly :o
10:47.09ckknightDeloralala: actually you'd have to hover your mouse over the continent to see them
10:47.16durcynckknight: well, it was Routes and GatherMate fishing notes that I noticed the other day
10:47.23ckknightxemacs: care to make some custom art? :-P
10:47.30Deloralalawell thats good enough :D
10:47.59ckknightdurcyn: lemme test Gathermate
10:48.00xemacssorry im not good at that :D but just placing those 3 maps next to each other doesnt look that .. sexy :p
10:48.10ckknightdurcyn: also, was it the zone that your player was on, or another one?
10:48.12durcynckknight: they render when the mouse is over the Cart window
10:48.16Matrix110|Yesterday I had a nice bug from WoW, I could cast every spell on Brutallus BUT Fireball it said "Invalid Target" on using it from my bars or the spellbook :D
10:48.27durcynckknight: hmm, might've been looking at terokkar while in shattrath, now that you mention it
10:48.40ckknightdurcyn: cause unhovering sets your zone back to where the player is
10:48.53xemacsckknight what about zooming to the overview maps (like those which are at the moment the farest "zoomout"), you know what i mean?
10:49.06durcynyou're going to make me get off my ass and look again, aren't you
10:49.07ckknightxemacs: cosmic map?
10:49.11xemacsyea :)
10:49.19xemacsi think that would look better
10:49.27ckknightxemacs: I tried, but Blizzard's cosmic map doesn't work, since it's not proportional like the other maps
10:49.29xemacsand you wouldnt have to get some custom art ;)
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10:49.41xemacsah no i mean you zoom to the cosmic map
10:50.00xemacsand depending where you begin to zoom in you get to the "outworld" map or to the "normal" worldmap
10:50.02ckknightyea, I can't place the individual continents on the cosmic map, since the proportions are completely off
10:50.24ckknightand it just looks kinda bad
10:50.37xemacshuh?
10:50.57ckknightyou can't place the continents on the cosmic map as-is, they don't line up
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10:51.10ckknightoutland is far too big, the continents are far too close together
10:51.11ckknightetc.
10:51.28xemacsa wait
10:51.38xemacsso you zoom out to this one:
10:51.38xemacshttp://www.wowwiki.com/images/1/16/Map_Cosmic.jpg
10:51.59xemacsand if you zoom in and your mouse is currently over the "outland" orb you get to this map
10:51.59xemacshttp://wow.ingame.de/screenshots/pics/InWoW_5521.jpg
10:52.01ckknightthat is what I am referring to
10:52.16ckknightthey aren't the right sizes
10:52.28ckknightand I want to keep proportionality
10:52.38xemacsoh
10:52.40xemacsok
10:53.00xemacsehm but you are using those maps in your video too
10:53.06ckknightso what you're getting from me is "no" for Blizzard's cosmic map, but "yes" if someone were to make their own custom art for a cosmic map
10:53.19ckknightI'm _just_ referring to the cosmic map.
10:53.52xemacshm and what about using the cosmic map just for chosing which continent will be shown in next zoom level?
10:53.56xemacsnot as a "real" map
10:53.57ckknightno
10:54.00xemacsjust for selection
10:54.01ckknightI already said no
10:54.01xemacshm ok :[
10:54.06ckknightget that through your head
10:54.33ckknightI like the zooming thing and seeing the whole universe, I don't want there to be two separate modes, either
10:54.41ckknightthat'd complicate my stuff immensely
10:54.55xemacsokay ;)
10:55.11Tigerdyrhm.. any idea how Armorylite calculates gear score?
10:55.42HjalteItemlevels perhaps?
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10:57.41TigerdyrNot entirely it seems, my own score is 2333 - but if you take strict itemlevel, I end at 2172
10:57.57Tigerdyrleaving 161 points leftover for "something or other"
10:58.29durcyndid you include gems
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11:00.04Daemona2hand vs dw vs i cant wand ?
11:00.04TigerdyrWell hmm.. no
11:01.17TigerdyrBit more difficult to see ItemLevel on the Gems for now, but that sounds plausible.
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11:07.30someoneHi folks! Does anybody use raidmobmarker?
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11:11.25charoni'm sure someone does. [scnr]
11:11.48HobbyAntiarc: our guild's moving well into Hyjal now....<3 the AoE with Omen2
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11:15.50someoneDoes anybody use MagicMarker?
11:15.51AntiarcSubject: Shaq O'Neil added you as a friend on Facebook...
11:15.52Antiarcwhat
11:16.02AntiarcShaq added you as a friend on Facebook.  We need you to confirm that you are, in fact, friends with Shaq.
11:16.43Snago"Shaq-Fu" Shaq O'Neil?
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11:18.59charon~tell someone about asktoask
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11:21.04useaddonHiho, anyone who using raidmobmarker?
11:21.36useaddonor Magic Marker?
11:22.11CIA-4003athou * r70724 10FuBar_ButtonSmashFu/ (. FuBar_ButtonSmashFu.lua FuBar_ButtonSmashFu.toc):
11:22.11CIA-40FuBar_ButtonSmashFu:
11:22.12CIA-40- removed babblespell dep
11:22.39charonpurl, tell useaddon about asktoask
11:22.46charonpurl, have a cookie.
11:22.46purlTa.  *Munch*
11:22.54[dRaCo]~asktoask
11:22.56purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
11:23.24KaaosaCan I ask you a question :V
11:23.41useaddonah! I'm new in irc, thanks for a tip
11:24.11Daemona~lart Kaaosa
11:24.11purlfollow's Kaaosa with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION
11:24.15useaddonWhat's a big difference between RaidMobMarker and Magic Marker?
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11:24.59[dRaCo]sounds like two approaches to the same problem
11:25.09[dRaCo]just test 'em and see which one you like better
11:25.13ramozWhats wowinterface.com's irc channel?
11:25.24[dRaCo]#wowuidev
11:25.30Daemona#wowi-lounge or somesuch
11:25.36[dRaCo]they recently moved from #wowi-lounge
11:25.52[dRaCo]it now forwards you to wowuidev
11:25.56ramozaha!
11:28.33CIA-4003aviana * r70726 10AKDF/ (. AKDF.lua AKDF.toc embeds.xml): AKDF: Minor improvements
11:29.25TNZewhat threat reduction did rogues have by just being rogues :P
11:29.29TNZeie, passive threat reduction
11:29.33Daemona30%
11:29.43Daemonajust cheack the class modules in threat-2.0
11:29.45Daemona;)
11:29.52Tigerdyrerk.. I find it rather terrifying to go inside MgT with a hunter that goes "huh .. no, my abilities never break anything" to the classic "Please, do not hit the sheep!"
11:30.06TNZeI would, but asking here is more likely to give me a wrong answer
11:30.25Daemonawhy do you want a wrong answer?
11:30.29Daemona*confused*
11:30.40digmouseisnt it that multishot does not break the sheep?
11:31.05Elkanowasn't that reverted? swipe does still break too iirc
11:31.22SnagoI know for a fact it breaks shackles :P
11:31.46digmousedidnt quite attention on that, I dont use multishot much
11:31.56digmouseprefer steady shot
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11:32.34Lemming2Kall these changes have been reverted you always brak cc with ae abilities
11:33.14CIA-4003jerry 07Ace3 * r70727 10Grid/Grid/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
11:33.14CIA-40Grid: (Ace3 branch)
11:33.14CIA-40_ Added all core indicators. Still not working.
11:33.15digmousewhy...
11:33.21Lemming2Kthe only thing might be avengers shield
11:33.50digmousewill it be back in the future?
11:33.56[dRaCo]because they want huntards to use their brain
11:34.18[dRaCo]which, I gotta admit, is hard to imagine
11:34.25digmouseright but.. I always break them with my autoshots
11:34.52digmouseI dont use multishot much except leading some alts to low level instances
11:35.14useaddon2Does somebody plan one huge mob-database with cc-list?
11:35.43digmouseuseaddon2: see MobNotes
11:35.50digmouseby Rabbit
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11:37.36useaddon2because both raidmobmarker and magic marker create their own databases
11:37.57digmouse["Amani'shi Guardian"] = "Immune to snares, polymorph, and fear. Dispels sheep from nearby friends.",
11:38.01digmouselike this
11:38.17digmousethis will show on your game tooltip of this mob
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11:38.47useaddon2hm... i can't parse those strings automaticly
11:39.20digmouseuse a table, indexed by the mob name on mouseover, and use GameToolTip:Addline,
11:39.30digmousereally a simple mod but helps a lot
11:39.48digmouseespecially for a noob RL like me
11:40.45useaddon2sure, but i want to create raidmobmarker-db by using extern database
11:41.11digmousemaybe can convert
11:43.30digmousebut you want it to automaticly mark the mob defined on the cc-list and your defined cc-mark behavior?
11:43.47useaddon2yes
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11:44.53digmouseI use ezIcons and MobNotes myself. sometimes the cc-mark rule must change depending on the raid member
11:45.46useaddon2I'm using RaidMobMarker and the first run through the ini is a big problem.
11:49.21useaddon2because in the first run you have to record the data but all next runs are very simple than
11:51.04digmouserecording a mob's cc behaviour£¿
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11:51.47useaddon2is it a question?
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11:53.33[SW]Dodgehi all ;D
11:53.49digmouseI guess there's no way of automatically recording mob's cc-vunerablity, maybe using combatlog filtering?
11:55.21durcynit's conceivable to watch debuffs applied, yes
11:55.39digmouseright, that's what I'm talking about
11:55.41useaddon2probably you missunderstand me. In the first run you assign people to cc-ability and a sign. While raiding you assign mobs to people
11:56.41useaddon2both addons (RaidMobMarker/Magic Marker) save the cc to the mob
11:56.54digmouseuh, maybe a misunderstanding there. the mark of mobs are not automatic right?
11:57.49useaddon2thats the feature of both addons ;)
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11:58.50useaddon2the first run is "manual" mark but all next runs you can mark automatic
11:59.09digmousegot it
11:59.34digmousemaybe can use mobnote database, but that needs some parsing
11:59.49CIA-4003tdw * r70728 10CleanShot/ (CleanShot.lua CleanShot.toc embeds.xml): CleanShot: Converted to Ace3 to be in the Blizzard's config windows
12:02.00useaddon2yes, thats the point. Those string you posted is not really funny to parse
12:02.34digmouseright, that's not formatted strings, added manually
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12:03.31capullocan someone tell me how to sort a table with a GUID as index?
12:03.41capullothe 2nd element is a number
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12:05.51charonmake a temporary table that just lists the GUID; make a comparison function that compares by looking up the value in the first table; pass that function to table.sort() as the second argument
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12:07.13ZhinjioG"morning.
12:09.18capullocharon: thanks :)
12:09.26capullosounds too easy
12:09.37charonhehe :)
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12:10.15useaddon2probably i had to create my own independent mob-database. Its important to be able to share this Data with other people and make the first run easy
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12:11.01charoncapullo: there's an example in http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua line 917
12:11.27TheZankeckknight, is it cool if I let people in #multiboxing try the map?
12:11.44ckknightoh yea, that's fine, point em to the jira link, though
12:11.52TheZankekk
12:11.53ckknightso that they can report any bugs or what have you
12:12.03ckknightbe sure to tell them it's an alpha, not a release or even beta
12:12.05TheZanke~cartographer3
12:12.05purlrumour has it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
12:12.40Zhinjiog'morning ck
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12:13.25TheZankeckknight, does it interface with cart2? because some people i have never met were in my group and on my map so i assumed it did
12:13.44ckknightyou mean guild positions?
12:13.48ckknightmorning, Zhinjio
12:13.57ckknightZhinjio: been up since about 2 AM :-P
12:14.34TheZankeckknight, questhelper icon get REALLY big
12:14.44TheZankepossible to stop them from scaling with map?
12:14.52ckknightyea, I'll talk to smariot about it
12:15.00ckknightit has to be something he does, though...
12:15.01TheZankeawesome, thanks
12:15.14TheZankemy whole group is hiding behind the button lol
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12:20.50TheZankeckknight, menu when rightclicking a QH button is glitchy if you move mouse to a differnt zone.. i'll report on site
12:21.15ckknightactually, that
12:21.18ckknightthat's already fixed
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12:21.21ckknighthe just hasn't released it
12:21.27Chompershey ckk :D
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12:21.32ckknight(smariot, that is)
12:21.34ckknighthey, Chompers
12:21.38TheZankeah
12:23.25CIA-4003yleaf * r70730 10ManaPerc/Locales/enUS.lua:
12:23.25CIA-40ManaPerc:
12:23.25CIA-40-remove unusable locale strings
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12:25.50_ranehey, i need very simple visual countdown timer/bar, what would be the easiest way to do something like that?
12:26.29Snagohttp://www.fanfiction.net/s/836450/1/DOOM_Repercussions_of_Evil This fanfiction is amazing :D
12:26.30mitch0_rane: antiarc is working on some bar lib
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12:27.36Snago"No! You will BE KILL BY DEMONS"
12:27.39[Ammo]local f = CreateFrame("Frame") f.timeLeft = 10 f.time = time() f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() f.timeLeft = f.timeLeft - (time()-f.time) ChatFrame1:AddMessage( f.timeLeft .." seconds to go") end)
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12:28.08Fisker-anyone know how the RoS trash is?
12:28.08[Ammo]Fisker-: AoE
12:28.08[Ammo]and keep moving
12:28.27Fisker-how long does it take to get from ashtongue's place to RoS aproximately?
12:28.28Prof_Alber1Fisker-: 10-15 sec respawn I think
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12:28.42Prof_Alber1Fisker-: 1-2 minutes
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12:28.56Fisker-rly?
12:28.58Fisker-awsum
12:29.15[Ammo]not really 1-2 mins
12:29.18[Ammo]bit more
12:29.26[Ammo]few packs right before
12:29.29[Ammo]and then some big packs
12:29.41[Ammo]but once you're ready for RoS gauntlet respawn is fast and aoe ;)
12:29.53Fisker-cool
12:29.55ckknightbtw, new Cartographer version
12:29.56Prof_Alber1Fisker-: the orc-packs are linked to Bloodboil
12:30.06ckknightI added a goto menu
12:30.09Fisker-ah
12:30.11Fisker-it's the same way?
12:30.17[Ammo]yeah
12:30.17Fisker-just right instead of left then :P
12:30.35Fisker-just hope we can take bloodboil down quick then
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12:30.47[Ammo]if you kill BB then the way to RoS is open
12:31.11[Ammo]I guess _rane didn't like my oneliner timerspammer :)
12:32.03Fisker-that's only after a soft reset though?
12:32.31Brunersafter bloodboil there is only one small pack left before RoS?
12:32.43Prof_Albertright
12:32.49[Ammo]which you probably clear anyway when heading to BB
12:32.52dafirewe usually do ros before bb .)
12:33.11Fisker-we just took down Bloodboil a week ago
12:33.14Fisker-going to RoS when we can :P
12:33.29Brunerswe usually fail hard at bloodboil
12:33.42Prof_Albertwe usually fail hard RoS ;)
12:33.42Brunersso RoS is mostly on hold til next raid day
12:34.07BrunersRoS is easyer than bloodboil for us atleast
12:34.08baer_Fisker-: concerning RoS-trash...
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12:34.24baer_my guild did it yesterday, it's ~15 minutes.
12:34.58Prof_Albertbaer_: including the orc-packs?
12:35.14baer_it's 2 groups from bloodboil and around 3 minutes thru the respawning ghosts.
12:35.15CryectI would hope including the orc packs
12:35.25Fisker-btw
12:35.28durcyn15 minutes?   that better be 14 for the humanoids
12:35.30baer_Prof_Albert: the orc-packs is bloodboil.
12:35.34Fisker-what's that doorway that's open after you kill bloodboil?
12:35.54dafireits a short cut out
12:36.00Cryecttakes you back up to ROS
12:36.05Fisker-awsum
12:36.06Prof_Albertbaer_: i know. ~15 minutes for the ghosts-trash sounded a bit long for me
12:37.25baer_anyway, the orcs need to be away, before engaging the ghosts.
12:42.53mykxI hate that fight as a destro lock. phase 2 at least
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12:45.58digmouseuh, what is RoS?
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12:46.39mykxReliquary of souls
12:46.40Daemonareliquary of souls
12:46.43digmousethanks
12:47.12Merais now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (logon pageron)
12:47.51digmouseuh, Black Temple?
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12:48.05Prof_Albertdigmouse: yea
12:48.30digmouseum, right... never entered a 25-raid yet
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12:51.33Chompersto hell with you Fisker-
12:51.39Chompersi want to kill teron :<
12:51.55Chompers"oh god im a ghost what do i do lol"
12:52.19Prof_AlbertChompers: play the gorefiend-simulator?
12:53.17phuorWhy is it that damage/threat meters need other party members to have the addon installed as well? Is this just in case some combat happens too far away from a player to trigger events?
12:53.29Fisker-hai Chompers
12:54.16Fisker-for some reason some of our "How do i shot ghosts"-members are complaining that a raider got replaced by someone better in our raid group
12:54.17Fisker-:D
12:54.30digmousephuor: you have to do that before, but not intensively needed now
12:55.05phuordigmouse: oh did the new combat_log_event stuff fix it?
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12:55.46mortimertalents/items can change the threat generated by abilities
12:56.34phuormortimer: oh yeah. but damage meters should work, huh?
12:56.36charontechnically that's not an issue any more, now that you can inspect talents
12:56.45phuoroh cool.
12:57.21charonthreat-2.0 relies on the player's interface (as opposed to combat log) events at least at one point, so a straightforward change wouldn't work, though that could probably be fixed
12:57.28charonother than that i believe it's just to go easier on CPU load
12:57.47QuantumDeltacharon it's not just that, but some events don't fire in the combat log at all
12:57.57QuantumDeltalike feign death resists for instance
12:58.05charonah
12:58.08sicaor soul shatter resists
12:58.24charonin that case, i retract my statement about "could be fixed" :)
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12:59.05QuantumDeltai fell into that trap too :P
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13:02.35charoni guess the bottom line is "never trust blizzard"
13:03.09charoncombat log _looks_ the same for every player now? let's make sure there are a few events missing.
13:03.13Chompersyes Prof_Albert: it's been in the GMOTD for about 3 weeks
13:03.26Chompersbut you cant teach retards to play it, we found
13:05.05Cryectcharon, the weird part is they give us other people's failure messages :-p
13:05.07IndustrialAntiarc: So you are making a bar library thats depending on Ace?
13:05.28IndustrialAntiarc: didnt we all agree that making framework agnostic libraries e.g. one bar lib for everyone would be better?
13:05.34IndustrialAntiarc: just wondering.
13:05.57CryectMaybe it depends on AceGui3?
13:06.21Industrialdoesnt really matter what part
13:06.31_ranewhy can't i find anything regarding width or height of the bars on this page? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar
13:07.11CryectWell AceGUI3 buys builtin support for things like recycling of widgets if thats a valuable thing for you
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13:08.09GnarfozIndustrial: http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/branches/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua?r=70709 <-- doesn't look ace3 dependent to me
13:08.37Bela|workyeah it doesn't appear to use any, it is just listed in the toc
13:08.43Bela|workfor no particular reason
13:08.54Vangualother people's spellcast faillbecause of say.. los are visible to everyone listening for it?
13:09.42IndustrialVangual: .. rephrase that? :p
13:09.44Bela|workdoes it return LOS as a reason?
13:09.49Cryectnot sure if those ones explicitly but I know like the ones that say not enough rage etc are
13:10.06Vangualyes bela
13:10.17Cryector at least they were when kalman posted a demonstration of his matlab script for the new combat log
13:10.19Bela|workthen yes everyone will see it
13:10.19Vangualthat'd be interesting to collect
13:10.26[Ammo]Bela|work: I think that's a leftover from a copypaste job on the .toc :)
13:10.34[Ammo]Bela|work: it's a pure libstub lib
13:10.35Bela|workpossibly
13:10.43[Ammo]quite surely :)
13:11.44VangualCryect: can we filter and display for these error reasons in recount2? :)
13:11.49CryectNo
13:11.53Vangualaww
13:12.07Vangualthere goes my L2Position view idea :(
13:12.10CryectSomeone if they want could write a module for it when thats added of course but yeah
13:13.16Bela|workseems like a bit Nazi imho though
13:13.35Bela|workI have plenty to do rather than spend my raid leading time yelling at people about LOS positioning
13:13.53CryectI mean how many fights is LOS really that much of an issue?
13:14.05Bela|workthere are plenty
13:14.10Bela|workVashj for example
13:14.15Vangualwell los is just a random example of something i would have thought to be mostly clientside
13:14.21Cryectnot a fight I would yell at someone for LOS though
13:14.41Bela|workyou would if you were handling dps on the spawns, and the healer didn't heal you
13:14.52Bela|workbut then you shouldn't need recount to tell you that
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13:15.19mitch0processing: /home/alu/barring/20080421151400.in2
13:15.41mitch0ECLICK
13:16.32[SW]Dodgeto who i have to report libguidregostery bugs/error?
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13:17.54durcyn[SW]Dodge: kvetch at Arrowmaster
13:18.12charonthe only _FAILED events i can find in a random combatlog of mine are SPELL_DISPEL_FAILED. those do not seem to state a reason. weird.
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13:19.09_raneokay
13:19.38_ranethis http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar api lacks self:SetCandyBarWidth method
13:21.28CIA-4003ennuilg * r70731 10scorchio/ (changelog.txt core.lua locales/localisation.lua todo.txt):
13:21.28CIA-40scorchio:
13:21.28CIA-40- Fixed double notification of vulnerability running out.
13:21.28CIA-40- Add configuration and support code to customise target bar colours.
13:21.28CIA-40- Removed all the casting notification code. It doesn't work with the current COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED way of doing things and until I can find another way of handling it, I feel that less code is better!
13:21.30CIA-40- Changed duplicate event window to 0.8 seconds (down from 1.2) to hopefully cover hastened scorches.
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13:22.07[SW]DodgeArrowmaster: ping
13:24.09charonCryect: i just checked another combat log. the only _FAILED i see on my end that did not originate from myself, are SPELL_DISPEL_FAILED.
13:25.29charonof course it might still fire in game, but not write out to the .txt
13:28.25CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70732 10Hourglass/ (core.lua locale-enUS.lua):
13:28.25CIA-40clean up some functions
13:28.25CIA-40start using :Lock() for anchors
13:28.25CIA-40StartBars actually works
13:28.25CIA-40emphasize/animate doesn't work yet, since LibBars' RegisterTimeLeft callback doesn't like to pass the bar object. Yipe.
13:28.29CIA-40this is now useable, unless you're attached at the hip to emphasis bars.
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13:41.36CIA-40ElkBuffBars
13:41.36CIA-40- Added zhCN and zhTW localization. (Need to to decorate)
13:41.36CIA-40- Added Note-zhCN and Note-zhTW.
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13:43.11durcynAntiarc: ping
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13:49.29TheZankeckknight, no BG maps yet?
13:49.35ckknightsorry, no
13:49.42ckknightnot yet
13:49.43TheZankeouch lol didnt know that
13:49.46ckknightyou'll get em, though
13:49.51TheZankeits cool
13:50.04TheZankeyou gonna do arenas too with the heightmap?
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14:00.49Hjalte~seen udorn
14:01.04purlHjalte: i haven't seen 'udorn'
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14:02.53ckknightTheZanke: I don't think there's a point to arenas
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14:03.30durcynif only you knew how right you are when you say that
14:03.51TheZankeckknight, true
14:04.00TheZankeitd would just be cool to see
14:04.39VulcanusIf we are talking about the PvP Arena here, it would have been a lot better if there was only one set of gear that all came with rating requirements, and it having the same stats as the BG gear.
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14:05.24Brunerscool, you can assist a summon while drinking
14:05.37Brunersand continue to drink after summon is done
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14:07.24VulcanusSay, what's the difference between <Script /> and <Include />  in embeds.xml?
14:08.29durcynVulcanus: script actually sends the file to the lua interpreter, whereas include treats it as additional xml
14:09.01Vulcanusoh I see, thank you :)
14:09.18keissany druid that could test if GetShapeshiftForm(true) returns 6 in flight form ?
14:10.07Megalonkeiss: i can test that for you
14:10.13TNZewouldn't that depend on if the druid has boomkin/treeform?
14:10.25durcynor if it ever did the aquatic form quest, etc
14:10.58Megalonwell, with Moonkin and Aquatic form, it returns 6
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14:12.22charonhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetNumShapeshiftForms
14:12.29charonuse that to check if the form is the last one the player has
14:12.41Fisker-why would you have to pass true to that function?
14:12.46charonmight still fail for druids that got flight before aquatic, but those are walking border cases
14:12.56keissFisker-: otherwise it checks paladin auras
14:13.02Fisker-oh
14:13.03HjalteI just tried out Vendor, an AH addon I found on Curse, and it seems really nice. Has anyone else experienced it? It's ace :)
14:13.34Fisker-i was just thinking GetShapeshiftForm(false) returned "Then why did you ask?"
14:13.35Fisker-:D
14:15.01FinalXkeiss: well, according to http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftFormInfo it seems to be a static number per form, even if the caster does not have moonkin or tree. Flight form is not on it, so is probably 7.
14:15.41FinalX1 = bear, 2 = aquatic, 3 = cat, 4 = travel, 5 = moonkin, 6 = tree
14:15.55Fisker-an AH addon other than Auctioneer?
14:15.56Fisker-Madness
14:17.01keissFinalX: here http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftForm it has '6' ... so iam inclined to think it's not static and someone just assumed it is on wowwiki
14:17.23FinalXGetShapeshiftForm != GetShapeshiftFormInfo though
14:17.30keissobviously
14:17.40charonwell
14:17.51charoni'm feral and for me GetShapeshiftFormInfo(5) returns flight form
14:17.54charonso wowwiki fails.
14:17.54keissi would expect it to use the same constant thou
14:18.07keissif it were static
14:18.27FinalXTheoreticly it is possible druids internally have both Tree of Life and Moonkin form. For example on private servers or gamemaster characters for testing...
14:18.30keisswtb a druid without moonkin/treeform to test out ..
14:18.33Fisker-btw Chompers
14:18.42Fisker-you need to work on your ghosting moar
14:18.46FinalXkeiss: I have a druid without moonkin/tree, just tell me what to do.
14:19.16keissFinalX: with flight form ?
14:19.20FinalXalso, I have access to my wife's account which has boomkin
14:19.21FinalXyup
14:19.25FinalXand so does she
14:19.30keisswell then check what does GetShapeshiftForm(true) return
14:19.33JY`FinalX: level 90 ?
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14:19.41charoneven better, you can't even rely on the icon path to figure out which is which, since apparently it returns the wisp (cancel form) icon when you're already in that form. (i just tested)
14:19.43FinalXJY`: or that
14:20.10sdoubleI'd just like to know how you guys find wives that play.
14:20.13sdouble/cry
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14:20.14FinalXkeiss: /script GetShapeshiftForm(true); # ? I'm a LUA/WoW scripting newb.
14:20.31JY`sdouble: s/that play//
14:20.32FinalXsdouble: I got myself a girlfriend, showed her WoW, hooked her up, and got married later :P
14:21.11JY`i still have to find a girlfriend
14:21.18sdoubleclosets mine has gotten to gaming is the sims
14:21.19JY`so not yet :p
14:21.27sdoubleclosest
14:22.04JY`wow is a great game for wives
14:22.21JY`but i dont expect them to do High end raiding
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14:23.36DarkElfthey probably like it cause they get to go shopping and get new clothes and shoes all the time
14:23.44ZhinjiobUH
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14:32.39CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70736 10Hourglass/core.lua: replace StopCandyBar methods with RemoveBar, probably won't work until LB's mixins table is fixed.
14:34.43TheZankeckknight_, i dont really expect this but id like to know if its possible to highlight the icon of your focus OR even make and arrow point to them in BGs or w/e
14:35.02ckknight_sorry, no, you can only get position of group members
14:35.04TheZankeif its an ally
14:35.06ckknight_not target or focus
14:35.14ckknight_oh, hrm
14:35.26ckknight_that's possible
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14:35.29_ranegotta love CandyBar
14:35.43durcynfuck CandyBar
14:35.51durcynlong live LibBars
14:38.16Zhinjiothe king is dead. long live the king.
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14:41.09chiper_what mod is it that provides this loot window?  http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/april/vodkatwinsreverse.jpg
14:41.33FinalXFor those that care, for druids with Boomkin/Tree: Boomkin/Tree is 5, (Swift) Flight Form is 6. For druids without Boomkin/Tree, (Swift) Flight Form is 5.
14:41.38durcynchiper_: should be XLoot
14:41.41FinalXSo it's indeed dynamic based upon the forms a druid has.
14:41.51chiper_is it an acemod, or do I need to hit wowi?
14:42.20Psycho|Workmmmmm, XLoot.
14:42.29nuoHepits on wowace chiper_
14:42.36chiper_woot, thanks
14:44.13DhragaA question: Anyone know of an addon that allows raidleaders to organize the groups before inviting, and can store different setups to easily reorganize the raid groups ?
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14:46.18JY`Dhraga: like your idea
14:46.30JY`having problem with ppl doing their dailies ?
14:46.47HjalteDhraga: I know there are addons like that
14:46.49workinghardDhraga, it makes no sense to do this. You have to many different setups
14:47.39JY`storing the name of ppl and clicking "invite all" when its full is good
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14:49.43workinghardwe speak about organisation of raids and saving setup-forms, right Dhraga?
14:49.54DhragaWorkinghard, yes
14:51.03durcynthere are several random addons that do that.  most of them suck.
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14:55.13workinghardI think you can do this manualy faster because setups changing to much depending on encounter and people in
14:57.32Dhragaworkinghard, well i always prefere to write down the different group/raid setup I want on different bosses in advance. And if I had a addon that would allow me to do that in the game, and just reorganize the groups with a click I'd be a verry happy RL.
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15:00.48DhragaWorkinghard, but as to this point I have found no such addon
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15:02.39workinghardDhraga: yes, i write these things on a paper, too. The main problem what noone addon can solve: there are setups with changing people (same classes) and some setups with changing classes
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15:03.15FinalXbtw, means the information on http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftForm is correct and the information on http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftFormInfo is wrong
15:04.08Fisker-FYI, it's a wiki.
15:04.09workinghardDhraga: for example, we have changing maintanks. How can you solve this automaticly
15:04.46workinghardDhraga: both deff-tanks are sometimes in the raid
15:04.52Dhragaworkinghard, agreed, but lets say your inviting a raid  that you have preconfigured, but you miss some players from your configuration and have some new ones, that the addon would then put them in a extra group and leaving blanks in the group that ididnt have the preconfigured player online... it minimizes the work
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15:06.05Dhragaworkinghard, changing main tanks I have no problem with to do manually
15:07.22workinghardDhraga, do you have always the same people?
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15:09.35DhragaWorkinghard: Well about 70% is the same on all raids, but as we use phpraider I know prehand wich players that are comming to the raid
15:10.59HjalteDhraga: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8369-GroupOMatic.html
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15:12.58workinghardDhraga: hm... probably you need some tool to invite those people who are registered in phpraider for this raid automaticly
15:13.11DhragaHjalte: Yes the GOM is an alternative, though not the type I was after, as it does not allow any in game creation of raidsetups based on specified names, it goes more on class and talent build
15:13.25Dhragaworkinghard: yes I have one
15:15.12DhragaWorkinghard: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7020/
15:15.54DhragaWorkinghard: it's an alteration of the PHPraider code to allow export of data aswell as an ingame addon that handles the invites
15:17.54DhragaWorkinghard: So the invites and queued players are all taken good care of, now I was just after an addon that could reorganize the groups to a preconfigured settings... but none exists yet it looks like
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15:21.19Dhragatime to lit the bbq... afk
15:21.36workinghardDhraga: some things the RL should make by herself ;)
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15:22.29DaemonaI think i sith'd my pants, my diapers have gone over to the dark side....
15:23.09CIA-4003zeksie * r70738 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Will no longer highlight the names of Rogues and Warriors in the raid popup indicating they need rebuffing for Intellect or Spirit.
15:23.10SunTsuworkinghard: I think it's a good idea. So one could build setups based on the current raid and load them when needed, changing groups automatically
15:23.20Matrix110|Forget it
15:23.26Matrix110|never works good
15:23.54Matrix110|i remember having 1 addon that did it and lagged the WHOLE raid because it tried like 500setups before finding the best one that fitted the pattern best
15:24.06Matrix110|my own guild members reported me :D
15:24.33Matrix110|other ones failed totally
15:24.49SunTsuMatrix110|: It chose setups automatically or ones you made up yourself?
15:25.38Matrix110|made up myself but generic like: Warrior Warrior Druid Paladin Warlock | Rogue Rogue Warrior blabla | etc. etc.
15:26.22SunTsuMatrix110|: Yeah, but that's not what Dhraga has in mind. He is talking about a sepcific raid with specific members
15:26.26Matrix110|In the end its not worth the effort programming it so it will please the people
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15:27.26Matrix110|SunTsu but that pretty much is a "we got 25 people raiding" solution
15:27.32Matrix110|you need it generic with Priorities
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15:27.58SunTsuMatrix110|: You don't or at least Dhraga doesn't
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15:28.28Matrix110|yeah I know but if you would want to publish a Addon like that people will ask for what I said directly :P
15:28.59SunTsuMatrix110|: Then one can point towards GOM ;)
15:29.21Matrix110|GOM?
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15:29.32Matrix110|~GOM
15:29.33SunTsuMatrix110|: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8369-GroupOMatic.html
15:30.12Matrix110|hmm wonder if that works
15:30.19Matrix110|but well i can spare the 30sec doing the setup :D
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15:32.51charonnice link... i'll have to check that out once i've taught my raid leaders to use MM
15:33.07nevcairieli tried group o matic once
15:33.14nevcairielit didnt really work out that well
15:33.16nevcairielits too static
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15:33.51nevcairielyou have to edit a lua file for new templates etc
15:34.11SunTsunevcairiel: *cough* great ;)
15:34.27Fisker-btw nevcairiel
15:34.34Fisker-you still don't have any jurisdiction
15:34.35Fisker-owned
15:34.49nevcairielyou might think so
15:34.56nevcairielbut do you really want to find out?
15:35.26Fisker-it's a fact!
15:35.29Fisker-cause i'm danish
15:35.39Fisker-so you don't have any legal jurisdiction over the danish
15:35.49Fisker-unless you're danish of course
15:35.51Fisker-which you're not
15:35.51nevcairieli live rather close to the danish border, and who says legal?
15:35.59ShirikSo I've been meaning to ask this for a while, just never got around to it
15:36.13Shirikwhy do so many ace addons have batch files in them with _lod.bat suffixes?
15:36.19Fisker-but you has to follow teh laws
15:36.26Fisker-just like in "Untraceable"
15:36.29Gelois wau being regulary updated now..?
15:36.30ShirikAnd more importantly, why were they written by a non-windows computer :P
15:36.40Fisker-Where the dns server is located in russia and thus out of their jurisdiction omg
15:37.03nevcairielShirik: the files have a svn:eol-style=native flag, and the files checkout is on a nix box .. :P
15:37.22Shirikbleh
15:37.25CIA-4003keiss * r70739 10Tracksw/ (Tracksw.toc core.lua):
15:37.25CIA-40Tracksw:
15:37.25CIA-40- hopefully working support for druid flight form
15:37.30Shiriknotepad doesn't like them at all :(
15:37.35nevcairielShirik: but those .bats unpack packaged addons that can LoD stuff like BigWigs, which only loads the boss modules you need for that instance
15:37.39nevcairieldont use notepad?
15:37.40nevcairielsrsly
15:37.43xemacs~cartographer3
15:37.44purlcartographer3 is probably the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
15:37.56Shirikvim doesn't like batch files either
15:38.29nevcairielwhats the eol-style for windows anyway? i only know native as a arg =P
15:38.42Shirik10, 13
15:38.44Shirikoh
15:38.50Shirikno idea :P
15:38.51[Ammo]native should make sure everyone gets the eol-style they need right?
15:39.08nevcairielwell for .bat files it should be fine to force it on windows
15:39.09[Ammo]oh but yeah, creating .zip on nix will fuck that up :)
15:39.12[Ammo]true
15:39.19CIA-4003philosound * r70740 10Numen/NumenButtons.lua:
15:39.19CIA-40Numen:
15:39.19CIA-40- Code Cleanup at UpdateCooldown()
15:39.56CIA-4003nevcairiel * r70741 10BigWigs/ (bigwigslod.bat bigwigslod.sh): BigWigs: set smarter eol-style vars
15:40.02nevcairieli cba to do the other addons .P
15:40.21Shirik<3
15:40.59Fisker-btw nevcairiel why are you close to the danish border?
15:41.00Fisker-rawr
15:41.23nevcairieldepends how you define close, really
15:41.40nevcairiel2 hour drive i think
15:41.40Matrix110|Because Germany has a border to denmark ? :P
15:41.43Fisker-aww
15:41.45Shirik#define CLOSE 1000000mi
15:41.55Shirikhm, how big is the earth?
15:41.55Fisker-hmm
15:42.00Fisker-you're german/swedish nevcairiel?
15:42.04Matrix110|hes german
15:42.05nevcairielgerman
15:42.11Fisker-oh god
15:42.15Matrix110|2hr= Hamburg
15:42.16Matrix110|?
15:42.20nevcairielyea
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15:44.09CIA-40Baggins_AnywhereBags:
15:44.09CIA-40- Hopefully fix an error that could occur the first time you scanned the bank (would error when opening the baggins dewdrop)
15:44.09CIA-40- Output a notice on which guildbank tabs could not be scanned (due to them not having been opened)
15:45.06MikkEr... 1st bank = "guildbank!
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15:46.30Funkeh`~seen tuller
15:46.33purltuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 16h 5m 54s ago, saying: 'it wasn't that much code :P'.
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15:46.58PolarinaDoes anyone have some RelegationW files? If so, I would like to have them now (It's not a order, but having them would help). Thank you. :)
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15:54.22CIA-40Yap:
15:54.22CIA-40- Added license and disclaimer.
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16:15.08Hjaltenevcairiel: Bartender3 bars are snapping to the center of the screen, yeah?
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16:15.26CIA-40Skinner: Bugfix for IsDebugging message
16:15.26CIA-40- Updated BetterInbox, Quartz & TipTac skins
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16:19.12work|prophyhmm is recount still the only dmgmeters working??
16:19.30Shirikno
16:20.03work|prophywhat else is out there?
16:20.07Shirikrecap
16:20.25Tornhoofswstats was updated to 2.4 too i think
16:20.31stew_aviolation?
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16:20.41work|prophyah let me try violation
16:20.59work|prophyrecount makes my fps to like 8-10 when in a raid...but i'm good when im just doing 5mans...weird stuff
16:21.25work|prophyi have to disable recount in raids..and my fps go to normal 20-30
16:21.34Elsiahmm odd
16:21.50ElsiaI tried the same in raid this weekend and I see a 1fps difference tops
16:21.53work|prophyyah not sure if i have some setting going on...even tho i reset to defaults
16:22.06Elsiadefaults should be very sensible
16:22.12Elsiawhat kind of machine are you using?
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16:22.34work|prophydualcore 3.0ghz with 2gigof ram
16:22.46Elsiawell that beats my single core 2ghz :P
16:22.53work|prophyit runs super smooth in 5mans tho..
16:23.06Elsiado you have the default combat log set to show everything?
16:23.14work|prophyyah
16:23.33Elsiacan you do me a favor and set it to self only and see if that changes your performance in any significant way?
16:23.58work|prophyi will tonite for sure..thanks!
16:24.04Elsiagreat, thanks too
16:24.12work|prophycombat log max distance should be ok tho rite?
16:24.26Shirikdoesn't even do anything anymore
16:24.39Shirikthe combat log changes changed the maximum distance to all units visible
16:25.21work|prophyah i c
16:25.51Elsiathere is no setting for that in recount anymore for that reason ;)
16:26.00Funkeh`you know I hate people that type like that
16:26.10Shirikagrees with Funkeh`
16:26.13Elsiay?
16:26.20AckisWorkwt r u tkng bout?
16:26.21Elsia~comfort Funkeh`
16:26.21purlThere, there, Funkeh`.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
16:26.26Shirikstabs AckisWork
16:26.30AckisWorklol
16:26.48Funkeh`I type in full words in texts also
16:27.07ElsiaI simply don't text, helps tons :D
16:27.09AckisWorkditto
16:27.13ChompersMaxStats.lua:86: attempt to call method 'NewBar' (a nil value)
16:27.16Funkeh`The last time I used letters instead of words was when I was 15
16:27.17ChompersAww :<
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16:27.29AckisWorkI use abbreviations quite often
16:27.36Chompersoh god now text chat
16:27.37Chompersjesus
16:28.03AckisWorkthere is a warlock on my old server: idkmybffjill
16:28.22Shiriklol
16:29.09Elsiathat's the downside of an RP server, less laughs about names
16:29.54Elsialeetspeak names don't survive 10 minutes on my server
16:30.10AckisWorkOn a side note, is it strange that I see the thread "What a bunch of BS :-(" and my first thought is that it was about babble-spell?
16:30.19Zyndrome"lol u tk him 2 da bar?"
16:30.27gixdoes anyone know where i can find the textures wow uses for socketed gems in tooltips?
16:31.06CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70748 10RBM/RBM_BlackTemple/Council.lua: RBM_BlackTemple: Council.lua fix.
16:32.09Fisker-slaps Chompers around a bit with a large trout
16:32.12Fisker-slaps Chompers around a bit with a large trout
16:32.13Fisker-slaps Chompers around a bit with a large trout
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16:33.21Funkeh`Fisker-, if you don't stopm spamming I'll be showing you my large trout
16:33.35Chompersyou mean your penis?
16:33.41JJSheetsalways fun to walk into #wowace.
16:33.43Chompersor like, a trout from the market
16:33.45AckisWorkgets the popcorn and a magnifying glass.
16:33.50JJSheetslmao
16:33.59Shirikoh snap
16:34.14Fisker-just remember Funkeh`
16:34.20Fisker-i'm in denmark
16:34.28Fisker-so you can't do anything cause you have no jurisdiction in denmark
16:34.36ChompersFunkeh` could totally kick your ass Fisker-
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16:34.59Chompershe'd slap you in the face with his trout
16:35.04Chompersand then his penis
16:35.08JJSheetslol
16:35.12Fisker-NO JURISDICTION OMG
16:36.50AckisWorkI'm just having a thought about my mods efficiency... and it's hurting my brain
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16:38.31AckisWorkI have a huge localization string, which I'm in the process of rewriting into a function that combines elements of the localization string so I can benefit from a babble library I already use... is it worth it to do that? I get an overhead of an extra function call, but I save a shitload of localization issues
16:39.11Elsiayou do that for every frame or occasionally or once?
16:40.00AckisWorkonly upon demand, and it's done about 50-200 times (ie: when a user clicks a button)
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16:41.00Josh_BorkeAckisWork: i'm sorry, what are you doing?
16:41.43AckisWorkI'm trying to get rid of some of the ugly localization stuff I have, by adding an extra overhead of a function call
16:41.49Silviu-asks haste to take a look in private message
16:42.05Josh_Borkewhat is ugly localization stuff?
16:42.22AckisWorkbasically it's for ackis recipe list, beast training... I have a huge localization string of where to obtain a specific skill: L["Bite (Rank 1) Obt"] = "Ragged Scavenger (2-3, Tirisfal Glades)\n ..........." It could go on for about 10-15 mobs
16:42.59Josh_Borkei vote function call that iterates over a nested table
16:43.17AckisWorkok that's basically what I'm converting it to
16:43.25CIA-4003phyber * r70749 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua:
16:43.25CIA-40ManaPerc:
16:43.25CIA-40- Changed how we build the mana percentage strings.
16:43.34Josh_Borkeyou could even store it in a expanded set and then convert it to the ugliness once when they log in
16:43.49Josh_Borkethereby eliminating the multiple function calls and reducing the complexity
16:44.10AckisWorkI'm adding it via function calls ie: ARL:addPetList(1, "Ragged Scavenger", BZONE["Tirisfal Glades"], 2, 3, false, false), and then displaying it: like ARL:CombinePets({1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12})
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16:44.55Josh_Borkein all honesty, it isn't going to matter a lick to the end user.  just do what makes most sense to you
16:45.01Josh_Borke1 function call is nothing
16:45.29AckisWorkI know, end user it won't matter... I'm still using ARL to learn lua, and improve code effeciency
16:45.49ckknightnevcairiel: ping
16:45.54nevcairielpong
16:46.06Josh_BorkeAckisWork: passing tables is bad
16:46.22ckknightnevcairiel: for LGP-1.0, would it be better to have two callbacks, one for Position and one for Clear or just one callback for Position that might have nil arguments?
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16:46.47AckisWorkJosh_Borke: is there an alternative for passing multiple unique identifiers?
16:46.56ckknightyou're gonna be using it, so might as well ask you. It doesn't matter to me either way
16:46.58Josh_BorkeAckisWork: yes, vararg
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16:47.29nevcairielckknight: i suppose the position callback gives me name, x, y?
16:47.37nevcairieloh and zone
16:47.38ckknightname, x, y, zone
16:47.39nevcairielobivously
16:47.43Josh_Borkelua> f = function(...) for i=1,select('#',...) do local x = select(i, ...); print(x) end; f(1, 2, 3, 4)
16:47.43lua_botJosh_Borke: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>'
16:47.44ckknightyea
16:47.48Josh_Borkelua> f = function(...) for i=1,select('#',...) do local x = select(i, ...); print(x) end end; f(1, 2, 3, 4)
16:47.48lua_botJosh_Borke: 1, 2, 3, 4
16:48.03nevcairielJust create 2, easier distinction
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16:48.12nevcairieldoesnt really matter anyway
16:48.54ckknightyea, I'll make two
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16:52.40AckisWorkJoshBorke: http://ace.pastey.net/86184 that would be the correct way?
16:53.05CIA-4003Carlos 07Kyopaxa * r70750 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
16:53.05CIA-40BigWigs:
16:53.05CIA-40- Serpentshrine and Outland bosses full esES localization.
16:54.38ckknightnevcairiel: I'm still confused about how library structure should be with LibStub and all
16:54.41ckknightis there a proper standard?
16:54.59nevcairielI thought there was, but everyone keeps doing it different
16:55.07CIA-4003alar * r70751 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc):
16:55.07CIA-40AlarBGHelper 3.4.2
16:55.07CIA-40Fixed: Randomly appearing message: ..\AddOns\AlarBGHelper\AlarBGHelper.lua line 1649: attempt to index local 'obj' (a nil value)
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16:56.47balstor~seen Grayhoof
16:56.55purlbalstor: i haven't seen 'grayhoof'
16:56.59balstor~last Grayhoof
16:57.06balstorbad purl you fail
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16:57.48sbautobar issue? :p
16:57.54sberr
16:57.57sbwrong guy :)
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16:58.08sbgrayhoof <> toadkiller :p
16:58.53syerenFunkeh`, poke :)
16:58.58syerenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12899.0
16:59.45Funkeh`syeren, Is that a bad offer?
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16:59.58syerenNo, just another thing for your database :D
17:00.16AckisWorkWall of text in BigWigs thread crits you for 1337.  You die.
17:00.18Funkeh`Oh, here's me thinking you were making me an offer
17:00.23syerenHaha ;D
17:00.27CIA-4003jaslaughter * r70752 10JasonQuest/ (JasonQuest.toc LogFrame.lua ReadMe.txt):
17:00.27CIA-40JasonQuest:
17:00.27CIA-40- Modified the way LightHeaded_JasonQuest is supported
17:00.36Vulcanus~seen paene
17:00.37purlpaene <n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 58m 40s ago, saying: 'kk'.
17:01.39CIA-4003archarodim * r70753 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua:
17:01.39CIA-40BadBoy:
17:01.39CIA-40- Add to blacklist
17:01.39CIA-40- Added a local proxy to GetTime to speed up things a little bit more :)
17:01.39CIA-40- fix a missing comma
17:01.57nevcairielhow can you proxy a time call?
17:01.59nevcairielis confused
17:02.20Fisker-"Um it doesn't have one, it doesn't need one, dvd spins at 12x whereas blu-ray spins at 4x, thats why it needs the install, dvd does not."
17:02.31TNZenevcairiel, I can see some use for it
17:02.54NeoTronso btw we ran two locks with fire spec on brutallus, including no-shadow cloak (the badge one - not the best but not horrible) and reenchanting wpns
17:03.13Tornhoofhmm fisker?
17:03.17CIA-4003jaslaughter * r70754 10JasonQuestLH/ (JasonQuestLH.lua JasonQuestLH.toc):
17:03.17CIA-40JasonQuestLH:
17:03.17CIA-40- Support for LightHeaded r230
17:03.17CIA-40- Requires JasonQuest v1.04.70752
17:03.17CIA-40- LOD
17:03.18nevcairielour shadow locks always owned the firelock on brut
17:03.18CIA-40- There is now a tab on the main JasonQuest frame to show/hide LH, although it does still force LH to detach as that's the only way this really works.
17:03.19NeoTronsummary is - dps was comparable but it wasn't better. definitelly not good enough to warrant losing ISB
17:03.24Tornhoofi thought blueray single speed is like dvd 8x or even more?
17:03.56CIA-4003ckknight * r70755 10LibGuildPositions-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
17:03.56CIA-40LibGuildPositions-1.0 - use CallbackHandler-1.0
17:03.56CIA-40- don't use the oldLib system, as CallbackHandler-1.0 messes up that way.
17:03.56CIA-40- callbacks are "Position", name, x, y, zone and "Clear", name
17:04.02nevcairielSingle speed for every medium is defined by the time it takes to read the full medium or something
17:04.11ckknightnevcairiel: ^---
17:04.13nevcairielso you cannot compare those directly between drives
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17:04.25nevcairielckknight: will check it out
17:04.32nevcairielafter food
17:04.32NeoTronnevcairiel: the individual lock dps wasn't really hugely different
17:04.33nevcairielbrb
17:04.37NeoTronbut the aff lock and shdow priest dps was
17:05.02AckisWorkI wonder if there will be a tirade of requests for GuildPositions to have a toggle to turn yourself off from it... O_o
17:05.08NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/2gyfg6gkf4lmu?s=8448-8645  fire clearly isn't bad
17:05.32AckisWorkI remember a bunch of QQing about Pitbull/Cowtip showing peoples spec before Blizz officially implemented it...
17:05.34CIA-4003funkydude * r70756 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add to blacklist, remove GetTime() local, this function isn't called often enough to justify this.
17:05.37Funkeh`nevcairiel, I think he just likes hes upvalues
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17:08.12NeoTronI pulled aggro once on brutallus last night
17:08.22NeoTronrecount told me why - 61% crit rate for 2850 dps
17:08.30keissElsia: what exactly does the 'Global Data Collection' option do ?
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17:08.44Fisker-dunno Tornhoof
17:08.52Fisker-but the stupidity of some people knows no bounds
17:08.55Elsiait stops storing any data
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17:09.22keissElsia: you mean it only works for 'current fight' turned off ?
17:09.45Elsiano, it's independent of that, it stops all new data accumulation, independent of fight mode
17:10.15keissso its like a pause option
17:10.21Elsiayeah pretty much
17:10.39Elsiain most cases zone-dependent filtering should work though
17:10.57Elsiamostly it's there in case people feel recount is taking up to much resources mid-raid nowadays
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17:12.04keissElsia: btw is the check version thing supposed to work ?
17:12.19AckisWorkIt seems that way at times Elsia, but a lot of people may not realize that raid add-ons are LoD so they don't get turned on til you raid. /shrug
17:12.20Elsiaif you are in a party with other recount users, yeah
17:12.58keissElsia: doesnt seem to work
17:13.10Elsiado you or others have turned sync off?`
17:13.16Elsiai.e. /recount sync
17:13.22keissi have it turned off for sure
17:13.28Elsiawell that explains it ;)
17:13.33Elsiaversion exchange is a sync feature
17:13.46keissrecount options arent very intuitive :D
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17:14.12Elsiaonce sync is more stable I'll probably gray out the version check if sync is off
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17:15.46CIA-4003polarina * r70757 10Relegation/ (7 files in 4 dirs):
17:15.46CIA-40Relegation: release candidate
17:15.46CIA-40<PROTECTED>
17:15.46CIA-40<PROTECTED>
17:16.44PolarinaI hope it tastes well. :)
17:17.10Elsiadoes it have garlic in it?
17:17.24PolarinaElsia: No.
17:17.27Elsiaaww
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17:18.05CIA-4003kenlyric 07kenlyric * r70758 10BulkMail2/ (9 files): BulkMail2: deleting branch
17:20.39CIA-4003funkydude * r70759 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: blacklist cleanup
17:22.04CIA-4003tdw * r70760 10CleanShot/CleanShot.lua:
17:22.04CIA-40CleanShot:
17:22.04CIA-40- Fully compatible with the 2.4 names display options
17:22.04CIA-40- Rearrange the config window. (Thank's Ace3)
17:22.04CIA-40- The enUS locale need to be remade by someone who speak really english. Please email me for this.
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17:24.20Groktarhas anyone tried the 8 melee comp on brutallus?
17:24.34Groktarwith ms war/enh shaman/ret paladin in tank group?
17:25.19Ztajlanyone who knows how to configure pitbull and got a minute to explain something to me?
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17:28.15NivFreakAnetheron was pretty easy
17:28.25NivFreakhyjal has more than 1 loot reaver it seems
17:28.32kadrahil;o
17:28.56Funkeh`what's the formula to get the mobid from the guid
17:28.58AckisWorkSSC/TK Bosses are harder than BT/Hyjal bosses IMO
17:29.10Ztajlno one feels like helping me with modifying pitbull?
17:29.19CIA-4003workinghard * r70761 10RaidMobMarker/ (4 files):
17:29.19CIA-40RaidMobMarker:
17:29.19CIA-40- new "/rmm mt" command
17:29.20CIA-40- settings-window redisgned
17:29.20CIA-40- Bugfix: Set Target without CC available now
17:29.20CIA-40- every assigned person can be set as mt separatly
17:29.22CIA-40- changed save behaviour
17:29.32GotaiZtajl, ask what you want to know, don't ask if someone wants to help.
17:29.42Ztajlhehe xD
17:29.49nevcairielFunkeh`: strsub(GUID, -12, -7)
17:30.05Funkeh`is that it? I remember it being longer
17:30.16nevcairielwell tonumber(, 16) around it :P
17:30.25Funkeh`right
17:30.34nevcairieltonumber(strsub(GUID, -12, -7), 16)
17:30.34ZtajlWell i downloaded an ui once which used pitbull and you could see your char on the unitframe if you understand what i mean
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17:32.14Fisker-weird
17:32.17Fisker-WEIRD
17:32.18Fisker-i tell ya
17:32.19Fisker-WEIRD
17:32.59Fisker-http://i29.tinypic.com/fbm05s.jpg :O
17:33.01charonZtajl: portraits?
17:33.13Ztajlya
17:33.13kenlyricget in a party
17:33.52Ztajlahh i found it
17:34.25Ztajlhmm
17:34.33NeoTronnevcairiel: man  tonumber(sub(guid, 7, 12), 16) is where it's at!
17:34.55Funkeh`?
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17:36.07Ztajlcharon do you know how to modify the portrait?
17:36.26Fisker-kenlyric i am in a teh party
17:36.40TheZankehow can i make a macro that will sap and then say "[target] has been sapped DO NOT TO
17:36.43TheZankeUCH"
17:36.52TheZankeonly if the person actually got sapped
17:37.00TheZankeso it doesnt spam while i spam sap
17:37.17GotaiGet AfterCast from wowinterface.com
17:37.19NeoTronFunkeh`: I use 7, 12 instead of -12, -7 in my code. same thing ofc
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17:38.25charonZtajl: not really, i always disable them. it would help if you asked a specific question :)
17:38.59Ztajlwell, instead of having it on the side i would like it over the health bar and as the same size as it
17:42.02charonthat does not seem to be possible with pitbull... perhaps you can look for a stand-alone portrait addon
17:42.38Ztajlhmm
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17:43.52starlonI have an issue. If I'm marked AFK and I hearth back to Shatt (I was in IF) AFK is cleared but PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED apparently doesn't fire. Anyone else run into this?
17:44.07ckknightZtajl: that's doable.
17:44.17Ztajlhow? :D
17:44.19ckknightcharon: don't tell falsehoods
17:44.30ckknightZtajl: set the portrait's side to center
17:44.55Ztajli can't even find where to change the portrait settings
17:45.32Funkeh`starlon, you could always register PEW
17:45.48starlonPEW?
17:45.54AckisWorkPEW PEW PEW
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17:46.01AckisWorkhad to sorry
17:46.02ckknightZtajl: that's your issue.
17:46.03Funkeh`player entering world
17:46.09Ztajlckknight ya :P
17:46.19ckknightZtajl: player -> other -> portrait
17:46.35ZtajlI'm ashamed of myself
17:46.55Groktar<NivFreak> Anetheron was pretty easy <- my guild wiped on this guy 3 times last night
17:46.58Groktarkekeke
17:47.24starlonok I'll try that in an hour lol
17:47.54starlonfunny thing is it doesn't occur on my alt in SW
17:47.55Chomperswe're heading towards gorefiend
17:48.06Chompers"im a ghost ohnoes"
17:48.13Ztajlohh! I'm realy close now. Now i just have to figure out how to get the portrait over the hp and mana bars
17:48.17Groktari was laughing hysterically on vent
17:48.23Psycho|WorkGroktar: As long as you spread out and have a tank in a small amount of FR it becomes pretty trivial.
17:48.32Groktarmainly because i hearthed on the 8 wave so someone else could come in
17:48.36Groktaroh ya, it is trivial
17:48.45Groktarwe've killed it like 30 times?\
17:49.00Psycho|WorkOh. Good lord, how did you wipe 3 times last night? =P
17:49.04AckisWorkChompers: I'm still afraid of ghosts on teron :P
17:49.06Psycho|WorkAre y ou the MT or something?
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17:49.17Groktari was
17:49.25Groktarbecause i work i can only raid weekends
17:50.03Groktarbut they were the usual kind of anetheron wipes
17:50.17Groktarpeople standing next to infernal, pulling aggro, etc
17:50.20Psycho|Work"Hey healers, let's all clump up together this time. What could possibly go wrong."
17:51.08AckisWorkanetheron is the infernal one?
17:51.14Psycho|WorkYerp
17:51.21AckisWorkI get them all confused :P
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17:51.38Groktarit actually took us longer than everything in hyjal save archimonde
17:51.54Psycho|WorkWe one-shotted arch for the first time ever last night. I was so happy for my raid.
17:52.03EvilJohn-arch kicked our ass last night
17:52.18Groktari'm happy if it takes under an hour
17:52.19EvilJohn-very frustrating
17:52.25Psycho|WorkHe'll do that, EvilJohn
17:52.37Psycho|WorkGroktar: Me too, so I was overjoyed to get him on the first pull.
17:52.40charonckknight: well. sorry about that.
17:52.42EvilJohn-I tink we're missing something
17:52.44Psycho|WorkWe had some close calls but our healers really stepped it up.
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17:53.03Groktari wiped us on illidan in p1!
17:53.24Groktarnewsbin in the background while tanking is bad
17:53.43ThraeSheesh, you guys are still fighting Illidan...my guild is already farming Sargeras after farming Arthas for a few months
17:53.59Psycho|WorkMy guild is fighting Jeff Kaplan.
17:54.09Psycho|WorkHe spawns John Carmack as an add at 50%.
17:54.11AckisWorkmy guild has froglok jedi's in it!
17:54.28Chomperswe're fighting mechano-hitler
17:54.31Psycho|WorkEvilJohn: What problems were you having? First night on him or have you been trying a while?
17:54.35Psycho|Workrofl chompers.
17:54.56Ericayeah but can you kill first mate smittey in vc?
17:55.16Groktarhttp://wowwebstats.com/1rofk335a6yoa <- sadfase
17:59.39CIA-4003jncl * r70762 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
17:59.39CIA-40Skinner: Skinned Chatter
17:59.39CIA-40- Bugfix for CombatLog ChatFrame skin
18:00.23NeoTronso we have a new bare tank who's now been in on two kills on Illidan
18:00.28CIA-4003kurax * r70763 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: Update zhCN locale
18:00.35Funkeh`full t6?
18:00.36NeoTronand he's done perfectly both tries
18:00.39NeoTronpretty nice
18:00.47Funkeh`nm
18:01.03NeoTronFunkeh`: he doesn't have full t6 though :P
18:01.11NeoTronhe doesn't have gloves or helmet
18:01.15EricaGood druids are amazing
18:01.19Funkeh`NeoTron, I meant, when new people join they have full t6 in 2 bt runs
18:01.35Funkeh`well 2 weeks
18:01.39Groktarsame for us
18:01.50NeoTronhehe
18:01.56NeoTronwe have two new druids - one resto and the feral
18:02.03NeoTronand two new shamans
18:02.11NeoTronone elemental and one resto
18:02.21NeoTronand a shaman who we had go enhancement instead of elemental
18:02.24Groktarthis guy had never been to a 25 man until this week -> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Vocab
18:02.25NeoTronso we've got a few to gear up
18:02.45NeoTronand we STILL haven't gotten the skull or staff of illidan more than once!
18:03.02Groktarwtb warglaive
18:03.06EricaI never really understood why some guilds put so much emphasis on gear for recruits anyway... if the player's good
18:03.12Groktar1 main hand in something like 20 kills
18:03.16EricaLike you said, gear comes fast
18:03.23NeoTronand only one warglaive :-/
18:03.37NeoTronErica: so Loii, our new ex-elemental enhancement shaman
18:03.37Groktari hate the legendary system
18:03.38EricaWe've only gotten one warglaive as well
18:03.43NeoTronjoined the guild as a trial raider at level 25
18:03.46NeoTronerr 35
18:03.53Ericawow  lol
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18:04.03KemayoErica: It's a shortcut to working out who is dedicated. People who have gear are more likely to be people who are willing to devote time to raiding / improving themselves.  (This is, of course, unreliable.)
18:04.10NeoTronfor the reason you said above - he had an excellent app but we didn't need his class
18:04.20NeoTronand his main was t5/partial t6 geared priest
18:04.35NeoTronone of our best recruits to date
18:04.38Chompersa guild wouldn't take me because it would take 2 weeks to gear me up :<
18:04.48NeoTronthat said
18:04.49EricaI mean I can see that to a point Kamayo... like a person at 70 in greens obviously hasn't worked very hard
18:04.56NeoTronit can take a lot longer if you're unlucky with drops
18:05.00Chomperscurse being so far into tbc
18:05.06NeoTronlike this week we got 3xpriest/pally/lock chest from illidan
18:05.10Chompersno one wants to take non-t6 people
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18:05.20NeoTronof course we were glad because we got our main pally healer and pally tank t6
18:05.22Groktarit's just that there's  no way to know whether they're any good
18:05.28Kemayodid PUG Sunwell trash last night for epix. :D
18:05.29Groktarso unless they're somebody's friend
18:05.30NeoTronthe pally tank had only a t4 before the - luck of drops
18:06.04EricaI've seen really good players in blues and sucky ones in epics
18:06.14EricaI imagine we all have
18:06.20Groktarfor sure
18:06.30Groktarwe just gkicked our full tier 6 enh shaman
18:06.32NeoTronthe main thing is
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18:06.33Groktarand he was our only one
18:06.41NeoTronfor SWP you can't go with people in bad gear
18:06.41Groktarhence the gearing of vocab
18:07.09EricaWe still do BT once in a while to help gear up new folks
18:07.10NeoTronso that's why we want, or rather prefer, already geared apps
18:07.13NeoTronwe do too
18:07.25NeoTrontrying to do hyjal tonight for the first time (past anetheron) since 2.4 hit
18:07.37EricaNice
18:07.50Groktarwe're doing bt/hyjal every week for now because sunwell really showed who is bad
18:07.53AckisWorkWe did a BT clear last night, doing hyjal tonight
18:07.54Chompersneo..take me take me!
18:07.56Groktarand we're having to replace people
18:08.01KalrothGroktar: ns :)
18:08.15Groktarns?
18:08.15KalrothMoving on encapsule is hard
18:08.16NeoTronChompers: class/race/gearlevel? :
18:08.19Kalrothno shit!
18:08.20NeoTron;-)
18:08.23Groktarahh
18:08.24Groktarhehe
18:08.29Chompers17/f/usa
18:08.31Chompersawww yeah
18:08.33NeoTronKalroth: we pulled Felmyst once - brutallus kill first time last night
18:08.56NeoTronwe're looking for a resto druid and perhaps a resto shaman atm
18:09.04Zhinjiocan anyone in a raid use raid warning? Or only RL/RA?
18:09.12Chompersdps warrior, so demand is low
18:09.17Chomperslike, incredibly low
18:09.24NeoTronwe got one already
18:09.33magmakinda like rogues
18:09.39NeoTrongot 3 of those
18:09.58magmaZhinjio: only RL/RA.
18:10.39Chompersbet if i specced prot i'd be getting offers left and right
18:10.46Paene~seen Vulcanus
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18:10.58NeoTronChompers: we have one prot warrior.. don't need more ;-)
18:11.02kenlyricChompers: "duh" is the response you want
18:11.05Chompersone?!
18:11.08NeoTronyep
18:11.09magmaI bet if I spec'd ... oh wait I'm a rogue
18:11.11Chomperswe've got 3 in this raid alone
18:11.21NeoTron2 druids, 1 warrior, 1 pally
18:11.26Groktarbtw NeoTron
18:11.34NeoTrondps warrior occasionately tanks / respecs if needed
18:11.35Groktaron brutallus, do you wait for the stop to taunt?
18:11.46Groktarmy guild does it and i've been trying to convince them to stop
18:11.50NeoTronGroktar: if the timing allows the outgoing tank to take stomp, yes
18:11.54Groktarseems like it just results in a tank death
18:12.10NeoTronbut normally we get 3 debuffs, call it out and the next tank does a 3 2 1 countdown and then taunts
18:12.27Groktarya
18:12.27NeoTronit helped a lot having two feral druid tanks though
18:12.35NeoTronmain issue we had was the warrior tank dyign from stomp
18:12.44Groktaroddly enough, our feral druid seems to die more often than the warrior
18:13.04NeoTronbad feral druid? :P
18:13.16NeoTronours took 23k dmg in about 1.5s
18:13.27CIA-4003damjau * r70765 10NextStep/NextStep.lua:
18:13.27CIA-40NextStep:
18:13.27CIA-40- seperate item data tables
18:13.27CIA-40- fix tooltip bugs ( nil error)
18:13.27Groktarhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Glorfindel
18:13.27NeoTron<PROTECTED>
18:13.33Groktarnot sure what kind of gear he's wearing
18:13.51CIA-4003damjau * r70766 10Whats/ (WhatsItemInfo.lua WhatsMenuInfo.lua):
18:13.51CIA-40Whats :
18:13.51CIA-40- update item data
18:13.51CIA-40- update tooltip text types
18:13.56NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/2gyfg6gkf4lmu?s=13605-13966&m wws of our kill
18:14.06NeoTronman I just realized I forgot to use my infernal all night long
18:14.17Fisker-~seen Paene
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18:16.21NeoTronGroktar: I don't quite understa
18:16.24NeoTronoops
18:16.51CIA-4003funkydude * r70767 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: Transcriptor: recording guid on target
18:16.59NeoTronunderstand how a druid is harder to heal when there are no crushing blows and a debuff that puts the warrior tank below 10k armor while the druid with stomp still has ~= the same armor as the warrior without
18:17.18Groktarit's the stomp transitions
18:17.39Groktarit just works out so the feral druid is the one tanking it when the stomp comes just before fourth slash
18:18.01PaeneFisker-: ?
18:18.10Groktarand it seems to me that's when we're getting tank deaths
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18:18.33Groktarbecause he's not getting spammed with heals at that point
18:18.39CIA-4003kemayo 07dev * r70768 10BankStack/ (config.lua core.lua sort.lua): BankStack: Option to sort soulbound items to the front.
18:18.45Groktarbecause some people are switching over to the new tank
18:19.02Lukianyour healers must suck
18:19.10Lukianthey all need clickcasting addons :p
18:19.28Groktarhmm?
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18:19.48hydrogenjust bring 23 paladins.  If you can't kill him before you run out of lay on hands you clearly suck
18:20.04Funkeh`lol
18:20.08NeoTronGroktar: we had 101 wipes on brutallus
18:20.12LukianGroktar, switching targets is simply a matter of moving the mouse ~10pixels
18:20.25NeoTronGroktar: and only last night did we ever get to enrage and then only twice before the kill and with few people alive
18:20.36Groktarno, that's not it
18:20.37NeoTronpretty much every wiped other than the first few were due to tank deaths
18:20.56Groktarit's that they try to have heals land just after the taunt
18:21.29NeoTronwe had one tank death at least where the new tank got like 4 big heals then took 4 hits in <2s and died
18:21.38Groktarthink we've made it to enrage 6 timtes now
18:21.39NeoTronbasically healing was "synced" and thus the tank died
18:23.00PolarinaAnyone knows of a good and a fast way to level up a level 26 priest to 58 (as Holy)?
18:23.46GroktarPolarina: that's just so wrong
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18:23.46hydrogenwhy the eff would you level as holy.
18:23.46PolarinaIt's fun!
18:23.46hydrogenthough, I'd suggest lots of smiting
18:23.46hydrogenand a wand
18:23.46Groktarmasochistic is the word
18:23.46Vulcanusping paene
18:23.46LukianPolarina, pay someone to do it for you
18:24.08ag`spec shadow and respec at 58
18:24.13ag`done
18:24.19Polarina18:23 /ignore Lukian
18:24.22Groktar^
18:24.24Lukianhaha
18:24.41PolarinaAnyone else?
18:24.49ag`put your holy talents in damage spells
18:24.59ag`but then you might as well just go shadow
18:25.03ag`lol :P
18:25.15Polarina18:24 /ignore ag`
18:25.42Groktarrunning instances in groups would be about the only way
18:25.47hydrogenget a few level 70's to power level you.
18:25.48Groktaronly you won't find any groups
18:25.52VulcanusDo lots of instances with guild member alts and/or pugs (if you pug, you can always threaten with leaving if they suck, they need you)
18:25.53Groktarso you'll have to go shadow!
18:26.00ag`Look, I have a priest, so I know what I'm talking about... And I ignored your mom last night too
18:26.21Polarina18:25 /ignore Groktar
18:26.22ag`and she *liked* it
18:26.41Groktari levelled my priest to about 45 as holy
18:26.47Groktarthen i respecced shadow
18:26.56Groktarand i wondered why the hell i levelled to 45 as holy
18:26.58NeoTronI leveled a priest in alpha/beta  to level 40 without any talents at all
18:27.09ag`that's hot
18:27.15NeoTronbut that's not the best one
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18:27.18Groktarwas that before they buffed the hp of mobs?
18:27.23NeoTronI leveled a beta druid to level 60 without talents
18:27.30ag`but why
18:27.35NeoTronand if you played druids at launch you know how much feral sucked then
18:27.39Groktarbecause i remember once most classes had talents they increased hp of everything by like 50%
18:27.39hydrogenI leveled a holy priest to 60 before the autowand patch...
18:27.41NeoTronag`: because there WERE no talents
18:27.51ag`:<
18:27.52nevcairiellol NeoTron
18:28.02hydrogencourse there were more groups then
18:28.02NeoTrondruid talents were the last to be added, or possibly hunter
18:28.10ag`ah yeah, I remember that now
18:28.18Groktarwtb original mortal strike
18:28.22Groktar220% weapon dmg
18:28.23Groktarmmm
18:28.25NeoTronbut man even with talents feral druid sucked back then compared to today
18:28.28hydrogenor original bloodlust..
18:28.32hydrogenor
18:28.35ag`wtb priest melee talent and spells
18:28.36hydrogenwhatever the op'd version was
18:28.42hydrogenIt kinda changed every patch for a while
18:28.51NeoTronhmm
18:29.03NeoTronprists, or casters in general, had better melee ability back then
18:29.12ag`yeah
18:29.15NeoTronI want priest sleep
18:29.18NeoTronthat was a hot spell
18:29.24Groktarya, they nerfed the 220% ms pretty quick and made bloodthirst 220%
18:29.25ag`priests need sleep now
18:29.29NeoTrondamn mages stealing our spell and not only that, made it worse!
18:29.30ag`but blizzard doesn't care
18:29.32Groktarand made it work like victory rush does now
18:29.39NeoTron"our" as if I still play a priest, whcih I don't
18:29.40Groktarand you could go from mob to mob one shotting
18:29.49Groktarbt, slam, next mob
18:29.49ag`because mind control and fear are two fucking useless spells
18:29.56JJSheetslol
18:30.01Paenepong Vulcanus
18:30.02NeoTronmind control is useful actually
18:30.07Vulcanusy helo thar
18:30.09Psycho|Workag`: How would your rogues get the haste buff in Hyjal if it wasn't for priests! YOU DO MATTER.
18:30.10Paenehola
18:30.12NeoTronexcellent CC when it's usable
18:30.14ag`except when it's buggy like fuck and breaks
18:30.17Groktarespecially if there's a cliff
18:30.23Paenewhat did I break?
18:30.24Paene:-p
18:30.29Groktarlike in ab!
18:30.33ag`Psycho|Work: dunno, lol
18:30.40Vulcanuswell libbar didnt get autoadded with disembedded libraries for one
18:30.41VulcanusXD
18:30.41NeoTronmy favorite back then was doing RFK with 7 people
18:30.41starlonFunkeh`: That didn't work. PEW fired when I hearthed but UnitIsAFK returned true at that point. :\
18:30.47ag`and our silence is fucking useless too, I mean wtf we get to have global cooldown?
18:30.50NeoTronyou could zone in and leave the group and invite another guy
18:30.52PsychoDunno why I was |Work there.
18:31.00Vulcanusits still in branches so its not exactly release ready ;p
18:31.05NeoTronwe did it when level 30 was max
18:31.15NeoTronoh and theer were no raid groups
18:31.21Paenemeh, it works well enough :)
18:31.23NeoTronand rogues could sap in combat
18:31.26Vulcanusand secondly, I couldn't find a good way to disable the spell timers frame thing when you had the option unchecked, its forcing the things on you atm
18:31.31Groktarright now my best fun on priest is at the magister's terrace portal
18:31.37Groktarsince there are always tons of horde out there
18:31.38NeoTronand there was no limit to the number of mobs a rogue could sap - 1 rogue controlling like 6 mobs => ftw
18:31.47Groktarand zoning resets the cd on psychic scream
18:31.47Paeneyeah, I ran outta time...finished up what I did at 5am
18:31.51Paenedecided it was time to sleep
18:31.53Vulcanusah XD
18:31.58Vulcanussleep is for pussies
18:32.12Paenethere's an option in LibBars to hide/show a bar group I think
18:32.23VulcanusI tried to find it but couldnt though
18:32.40Paeneyou said LibBars didn't get zipped into the addon by the zipscript?
18:32.41NeoTronAntiarc: LibBars feature request: option to grow upwards
18:32.56NeoTronPaene: hmm works for MagicTargets
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18:33.19Vulcanuswith embedded libraries it does, but not with disembedded ones because it's not in /trunk/ atm
18:33.42NeoTronright
18:33.49Paeneooo I see
18:33.50NeoTrondisembedded will fail - override libbars addon
18:34.03Funkeh`starlon, try ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA
18:34.16Vulcanuslibbars have no toc file yet that I could see so I couldnt manually disembed it either without making a toc for myself
18:34.22Vulcanusso I just left that embedded and works fine
18:34.31PaeneI wonder if that's what's causing some of the errors are experiencing
18:34.43NeoTronVulcanus: it does
18:34.54NeoTronVulcanus: however when embedded it adds the subdirectory
18:34.56VulcanusYea I have had error reports with Cryolysis2 being nil in some OnEnter functions
18:34.59NeoTronmost libs work like that
18:35.02Paeneyeah
18:35.05Paenewhich is weird
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18:35.17PaeneI'm not sure why it's doing that
18:35.26NeoTroni.e LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.toc and LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/lib.xml and LibBars-1.0.lua
18:35.30ThiefMasternot really an ace question, but it it possible to auto-clear the focus if the focused target dies?
18:35.36NeoTronPaene: what addon are you making?
18:35.40VulcanusNeoTron: owells, its not a big deal, it can be left embedded until it reaches trunk status
18:35.45PaeneCryolysis 2
18:35.59NeoTronis that the mage circular type utility addon?
18:36.02Vulcanusyes
18:36.02Paeneyep
18:36.38VulcanusIdeally, we don't even want the timers from LibBars instantiated if we have the main timers option to off, for performance issues
18:36.41Paenethe code is a big mess lol, prob shoulda picked a smaller project for my first addon ever
18:36.53Paeneyeah
18:36.57Vulcanusits easier to work with now tho, since the file got split up eh ;)
18:36.58Paeneit really should be a module
18:37.02Paenebut I'm lazy now
18:37.04Paeneyeah
18:37.04Paenelol
18:37.32Paeneeventually I'm gonna go through and recode a ton of stuff
18:37.48Fisker-I WILL DESTROY YOU
18:37.58Vulcanusin the end we should make it so modular we can easily add other classes to it, imo
18:38.22Vulcanusthere's already an addon for that, Sabella or something, but it's kinda shite
18:38.23Paenesimilar to sphere lol
18:38.42PaeneSphere was never finished though
18:38.47Vulcanushaven't seen a single other addon that actually offers custom buttons either
18:39.13Vulcanusbesides that little messup with AceConfigDialog (didn't know it got auto-added ;p), like what I did with the options dialogue? opening it in the BlizzOptions frame didn't do much good as it clamped the dropdowns making them unchangeable ;p
18:39.14Paenemy custom buttons need work
18:39.15Paenelol
18:39.28Paeneyeah, that was nice
18:39.45Vulcanustook some dissecting of TomTom but it worked out in the end :)
18:40.03PaeneOnce I finish the new spell timers, they'll be nicer
18:40.09Vulcanusand I just remembered I forgot to add the 4 new locale strings to the other translations
18:40.10Paenealso I added the early warning for sheep
18:40.22Paenebut, it doesn't refresh when refreshing polymorph
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18:40.30Paenethat's gonna take more work
18:40.30Vulcanuslibbars bug or?
18:40.34Paeneno
18:40.47PaeneBlizz doesn't send the SPELL_AURA_APPLIED event on debuff refreshes
18:40.52Paeneit makes me cry
18:40.57Vulcanusah, isn't it just a matter of hooking SPELL_CAST_SUCCEEDED or something?
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18:41.02CIA-40RaidBuffStatus:
18:41.02CIA-40- Corrected some Spanish translations.
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18:41.20Paenekinda, have to check that and make sure the spell didn't miss/get resisted
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18:41.21Vulcanusum hi
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18:41.29Fisker-"I think we had a netsplit"
18:41.30Chompersbot attack?
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18:41.39ben__Voting bot attack
18:41.39*** mode/#wowace [+R] by t
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18:41.44Fisker-fucking win
18:41.48Vulcanustest
18:41.51Vulcanusok
18:41.57Fisker-t is a spoilsport
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18:42.07tFisker-: was it intentional?
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18:42.14Fisker-no
18:42.17Chompers:/
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18:42.21Fisker-it looked funny though
18:42.47keissmkay
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18:42.55PsychoSo how often does that happen?
18:42.56Paeneeh
18:42.57ZhinjioI haven't had that much fun since.... well, never.
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18:43.00hydrogenlulz?
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18:43.03hydrogenthats original!
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18:43.06Vulcanusas I was saying: I thought SUCCEEDED only fired on *successful* casts, not when they got resisted?
18:43.09Zyndromehello bots
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18:43.10benQuick, hit the R button again
18:43.13AckisWorkwow that lagged up my pc pretty good
18:43.15Fisker-lol
18:43.21hydrogenall those poor klines :/
18:43.26Zyndromebotnets
18:43.29ThiefMasterstupid skiddies..
18:43.34Fisker-why is this even funny?
18:43.41PaeneVulcanus: SUCCEEDED fires no matter what I believe
18:43.44keissshrugs
18:43.51Fisker-I'd rather be using my botnets for earning money than humoring people i don't know
18:43.52ThiefMasterFisker-: certain people have to use bots as a penis replacement
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18:43.57nevcairielwonder why people even bother
18:44.03VulcanusIll give a quick wowwiki and see if it has anything helpful on the subject
18:44.09Paenethat's why the only stuff I'm using it to track atm is stuff that can't fail :-p
18:44.12Chomperssooo
18:44.17Chomperswhy would someone attack wowace :/
18:44.22durcynVulcanus: SUCCESS fires when the cast completes, SPELL_DAMAGE shows the resist/absorb
18:44.25Fisker-nevcairiel when you do something illegal you might as well do it without earning significantly of it
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18:44.28Vulcanusoh
18:44.29benI bet they wiped because omen was broken~
18:44.30Fisker-Like shooting someone and stealing his underpants
18:44.40Zyndromeprobably expects every single addon to work 100% out of the box >_>
18:44.54Vulcanuswell then I have no idea XD
18:45.02Chomperskenco strikes back!
18:45.08ChompersKTM WILL RULE AGAIN
18:45.24AckisWorkso what's a k-line?
18:45.27Vulcanusnevar! We will resist the KTM forces with all our Ace might!
18:45.28Funkeh`me thinks some poor dudes got ze zombies on their pcs
18:45.28Fisker-a ban
18:45.34Psychok-line is a server ban
18:45.35Vulcanusnetwork ban at that
18:45.38Fisker-nah
18:45.41Fisker-g-line is a network ban
18:45.42AckisWorkis there a G-line?
18:45.42durcynVulcanus: the original question is covered in "lulz", what was it?
18:45.47Psychog-line = network
18:45.51Dave2K:lines on freenode are network-wide.
18:45.53Fisker-but g-line's are usually not reported
18:45.55Fisker-oh
18:45.56Psychooh, really?
18:45.56StanzillaFunkeh`: http://ace.pastey.net/86202 after I clicked "local test"
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18:46.02PsychoWell nice then.
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18:46.06Vulcanushow to check for CC debuffs being resisted
18:46.22Fisker-not like it made sense to locally ban people anyways
18:46.26Vulcanusso we can refresh a LibBar bar if it's successfully reapplied
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18:47.14PaeneStore the spell that was last cast successfully, watch for a miss or resist event, set a flag to true if it occurs and voila
18:47.20durcynVulcanus: oh, full resists are still SPELL_MISSED
18:47.51PaeneI think I already have UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED storing the last spell cast
18:47.58Vulcanuscool, thanks :)
18:48.05Paeneit's just a matter of watching COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED for the miss/resist
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18:49.20Funkeh`Stanzilla, I wonder what that means!
18:49.57StanzillaFunkeh`: well everythign else in bigwigs works without PaintChips-2.0 :P
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18:50.50CIA-4003funkydude * r70770 10BigWigs/Extras/Test.lua: BigWigs: Extras/Test: tweak colors
18:50.52_ranemy grid is bugging
18:51.10_raneit's showing that some people would be out of line of sight or out of range while they're not
18:51.13NeoTronFunkeh`: I got reports last night of bars not working in a recent bigwigs - you probably know already but alas
18:51.18PaeneVulcanus: you working on it right now?
18:51.19_raneanyone had this?
18:51.29NeoTronor fixed it even - I didn't see it myself
18:51.30Vulcanusnar Im at school doing late night work :(
18:51.31Funkeh`NeoTron, yeah they should update
18:51.32Vulcanusits all yours XD
18:51.35Paenelol
18:51.43Funkeh`NeoTron, only people that were using embeds will have had it
18:51.49PaeneI prob won't have much time to over the next few days
18:51.56Paenefinals next week, and I've got 2 large programs to do
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18:52.01Demalhello
18:52.21Funkeh`Stanzilla, be happy
18:52.22PsychoWelcome to #wowace. Do you have a reservation?
18:52.32StanzillaFunkeh`: <3
18:52.36Funkeh`Psycho, do you?
18:52.38DemalI use CooldownCount (to show me the time remaining on cooldowns and/or buffs) however, it has been very unreliable since a while (not showing coldblood CD, nor Kidneyshot)
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18:52.44Demalis there an alternative someone knows of?
18:53.03Funkeh`is that bars cooldown or numbers
18:53.06Vulcanusah, well so long as there's not too difficult things to fix I can probs take care of it
18:53.10PsychoI submitted the paperwork a couple weeks ago but it got hung up in the #wowace committe to select the members for the default reservation draft policy legislation group.
18:53.13PaeneI thought mIRC was free?
18:53.20Funkeh`it is
18:53.23durcynDemal: OmniCC
18:53.32Demalgonna check it out
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18:53.40durcynand no, it's not on your dumb updater
18:53.41Demalthank you very much
18:53.49Demali curse it
18:53.51Demal:P
18:54.02durcynhttp://tuller.wowinterface.com
18:54.13PsychoDemal: I have been using Hourglass recently, and I like that very much, if you want to try something different.
18:54.27Demalthanks, i will note that down too
18:54.36durcynPsycho: CoolDownButtons, oCD?
18:54.50durcynoh, nvm, misunderstod you
18:54.57durcynhe's talking specifically about button cooldown models
18:55.07Demaland buffs / debuffs with their timers
18:55.16NeoTronFunkeh`: explains then why I didn't see it
18:55.16PsychoRight, which is why I noted "if he wanted to try something different"
18:55.19PsychoOh, nevermind then Demal
18:55.35PsychoListen to the other people.
18:55.37PsychoI'm not here.
18:55.44Demalno no, you are trying to help me
18:55.46durcynDemal: well, OmniCC is only for button/aura cooldown models.  if you want effect duration bar timers, I"d recommend ClassTimers
18:55.47Demalall help is welcome
18:55.57Demalyes, i use classtimers :D
18:56.03Demalit was more for poisons
18:57.07PsychoOh. Most buff mods have weapon buffs incorporated, I thought.
18:57.35durcyndebuffs, not tench
18:59.02PsychoOkay, maybe I'm confused, he's saying he used CooldownCount to track buffs and cooldowns, then says he needs to replace it "more for poisons". I'm not sure what he's getting at.
18:59.20PsychoJust seems to me he's looking for something to track tenchs
18:59.27ZyndromeClassTimer ...
18:59.41Zyndrome"Interface\AddOns\ClassTimer\ClassTimer.lua:77: <unnamed>:SetText(): Font not set" still spams my chat to no end when I apply any dot :|
19:01.11durcynZyndrome: what class?
19:01.16Zyndromewarlock
19:01.28Zyndromeline 77 -> frame.timetext:SetText(timenum(endTime - currentTime))
19:02.13Primerspeaking of warlock, what spec, other than SL/SL, would be considered a decent arena spec?
19:02.26PrimerI did pretty well with 43/7/11
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19:02.44Primerhaving shadowburn as a finisher was always A Good Thing™
19:02.51PrimerSL/SL has no finisher
19:02.56Primerwhich makes me hate it
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19:03.30Primerfor a lock with 470 resilience
19:03.34CIA-4003ackis * r70771 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
19:03.34CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
19:03.34CIA-40- Added commented code on some improvements
19:03.34CIA-40- Another possible fix for the problem with "Have Materials" being checked
19:03.36CIA-40- Right now the mod will expand all headers and uncheck the button, doesn't remember settings
19:03.38CIA-40- All dry-coded
19:04.30nuoHep`durcyn, it tries to SetText on a bar that wasn't ApplySettings'ed yet. I fixed it my local copy by SetFonting'ing all fontstrings with some blizzard font object on bar creation
19:04.31[Liquidor]Good evening everyone. Having a nice day?
19:05.35Primerno
19:05.51Hell-Razoranybody know of a mod that will show if you need guys for a quest in the tooltip?
19:06.01Lukian[Liquidor], We're under attack!
19:06.19durcynHell-Razor: QueTip from wowinterface does that and -only- that
19:06.45TNZenot getting grid to work with custom debuffs
19:06.52TNZewhat am I doing wrong :P
19:06.56Hell-Razordurcyn, does it work with like tiptac or something?
19:07.18durcynHell-Razor: it works with GameToolip and ItemRefTooptip, regardless of what else modifies them
19:07.22pastamancerTNZe: either you're adding a debuff as a buff or you suck at speeling
19:07.35Hell-Razordurcyn, kk thanks
19:07.56durcyntooltip rather, apparently I've got the typing skill of a newt.
19:08.18TNZeheh
19:08.20hydrogenouch :(
19:08.29hydrogenI just got limerickrolled :(
19:08.31TNZeadded it as debuff, Deadly Poison (for illidan council)
19:09.44pastamancerand you capitalized it right?
19:10.06TNZeyeah
19:10.19TNZechecking combat log to doublecheck now
19:11.02TNZeSPELL_AURA_APPLIED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0x00000000005F8361,"Moo",0x512,41485,"Deadly Poison",0x8,DEBUFF
19:11.17quiescensmoo
19:11.52pastamancerit should be showing up then, *shrug*
19:12.09pastamanceryou did assign it to an indicator, right?
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19:12.45TNZethat was missing thanks pastamancer XD
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19:25.08Hell-Razoranybody know what needs to be enabled in sct to show the damage youre taking?
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19:31.16Zeksiehehe... Bigwigs says: Kalecgos has been defeated, but he only despawned ;)
19:31.24Fisker-Chompers
19:31.28Fisker-you got a WWS of your raids?
19:31.42Funkeh`Zeksie, you or someone in your raod is using a very old version
19:31.45Funkeh`raid
19:31.53CIA-4003Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate * r70772 10EasyDND/ (6 files):
19:31.53CIA-40EasyDND:
19:31.53CIA-40-Added Titan panel support
19:31.54CIA-40-minor code updates
19:31.54Merais away, auto-away after 20 minutes (6h 44m 41s ago)
19:31.54Merais back after 6h 44m 42s
19:32.05Zeksieahh. ok
19:32.22Fisker-heeeeeeeeeere Chompers Chompers
19:32.41Fisker-or anyone else here in Black Temple and only gotten to bloodboil/recently taken bloodboil etc.
19:33.54EvilJohn-yeah
19:34.02EvilJohn-we got him down a few weeks ago
19:34.07Fisker-i want you evilcazz
19:34.08Fisker-err
19:34.10Fisker-EvilJohn
19:34.15EvilJohn-don't tease me
19:34.28Funkeh`haha
19:34.34EvilJohn-how can I be of assistance to the wowace community
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19:34.38Funkeh`I'm not the only one auto complete is failing
19:34.43ChompersAT LAST
19:34.45Zeksieehhhh. did a version query, and i can't close the frame, and i don't wanna spam the raid with version msgs mid battle ><
19:34.49Chompersi finally got turned into a ghost on teron
19:34.50Fisker-giving me your guild's wws link
19:34.56EvilJohn-sure
19:34.56Chompersthat's so fucking easy, it's unreal
19:35.03Funkeh`Zeksie, tried right clicking it
19:35.09Zeksietried all
19:35.10Chompersnow i can call people who don't do it retards
19:35.26Funkeh`Zeksie, you probably have an invisible frame over it
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19:35.42Zeksienah. i can drag it around
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19:35.57Zeksieand now i broke it by doing GetMouseFocus():Hide()
19:36.04Zeksienm
19:36.04Funkeh`lol
19:36.15Zeksieit hid it tho. :)
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19:37.19ChompersZeksie: any chance you could allow guild assignment in zomg
19:37.39Chompersso i can assign people to specific classes in zomg without them being in a raidgroup
19:38.23PsychoChompers: I was lucky enough to be the second person ever to get ghosts when we started doing gorefiend so I've had that luxury for months.
19:38.36CIA-4003Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate * r70773 10EasyDND/EasyDND.toc:
19:38.36CIA-40EasyDND:
19:38.36CIA-40-Fixed toc error
19:38.40ChompersPsycho: how do people fail at it :S
19:38.57PsychoThey panic and start rolling their faces on their keyboards, usually.
19:39.01Chompersi even let one go by accident and still had time
19:39.13CIA-4003paene * r70774 10Cryolysis2/ (11 files in 3 dirs):
19:39.14CIA-40Cryolysis2:
19:39.14CIA-40- Added an option to announce who broke your polymorph.
19:39.18PsychoWe even had a warlock accidentally alt-tab (pet keys were bound to alt, tried to tab-target) and still kill all four without them getting to the raid.
19:39.46TinyboomPaene: that last commit has <3 in it^^
19:39.52Paene:)
19:39.55PaeneI haven't tested it
19:40.00Paenemy wow acct is in use atm
19:40.03PsychoI think we still have one or two people who'd have trouble but as long as the first person who gets them in the fight is good at it it's never an issue.
19:40.15Paenebut assuming no typos, it should work fine
19:40.28TinyboomPaene: will test it as soon as wau has it :)
19:40.32Paene:)
19:40.57ColdphoenixPaene without externals theres no libbars
19:41.08Coldphoenixin cryolysis2
19:41.25Paeneyeah, it's because libbars isn't finished yet, it's in branch not trunk
19:41.27Fisker-http://wowwebstats.com/ak3qtmq1wiai1?s=8175-8437 <-lolwut?
19:41.40Paeneyou'll have to install Cryo2 with externals for now :-/
19:41.49Paeneuntil Antiarc finishes his lib
19:42.24Paene...
19:42.26Paeneslacker...
19:42.27Paene:-p
19:43.35EvilJohn-I need an addon the physically assaults people when they doomfire
19:43.41EvilJohn-they get
19:43.48Zhinjiockknight: ping
19:44.13ZeksieChompers: had htought about that a few times. is a valid point, but it'll have to be a toggle or something. else you'll have a spam of alts and bankers and crap :)
19:45.56DeloralalaDAAAAMN my guild is right now firstkilling bloodboil and my grafics card blew up yesterday..
19:46.22Chomperstrue Zedde
19:46.26Chompersuh, Zeksie
19:47.02durcynZeksie: set a minimum rank then, steal code from oRA2/Leader/Invite if you must.
19:48.43sylvanaar_worksomeone test the "load snapshot" feature in wau...
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19:50.14AntiarcNeoTron: :ReverseGrowthDirection
19:50.17sylvanaar_worki cant since i no  longer have an active wow subscription
19:50.28NeoTronAntiarc: sweet
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19:51.02PaeneTinyboom: when did you last update Cryo2?
19:51.26Tinyboomcouple hours ago i guess, should be the commit before this one:)
19:51.30Paenemore specifically, have you had any problems with the latest version?
19:51.34Zeksiethe details aren't hard. i just have to be bothered to code it ;)
19:51.34Paenekk
19:51.58PaeneWe've had people reporting OnEnter errors, but I can't replicate them
19:52.08durcynAntiarc: have time for me to bend your ear about LibBars some more?
19:52.09PaeneI'm assuming it's from the updating without externals issue
19:52.10Merais now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (logon pageron)
19:54.03TinyboomPaene: well no big issues come to mind.
19:54.49Antiarcdurcyn: sure
19:55.21durcynAntiarc: firstly, what's the right method to kill a bar?  I see barListPrototype:RemoveBar, but the mixin table still lists ReleaseBar
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19:55.55Fisker-Antiarc can i get your guilds wws again?
19:56.04AntiarcFisker-: Which one?
19:56.09Fisker-just the main one
19:56.13Fisker-or bloodboil if you have
19:56.29Fisker-for some reason one of our rogues feels it's ok that they are just above the tanks in damage
19:56.29Fisker-:D
19:56.35AntiarcWhat?
19:56.41AntiarcRogues should be topping that fight.
19:56.50PsychoFisker-: Are you fucking kidding me, rofl
19:56.55AntiarcVanish for the win.
19:57.17Fisker-http://wowwebstats.com/l2ixi62xnzag3?s=13259-13691 <-2 dps'ers beneath them
19:57.20Fisker-then tanks and healers
19:57.21Fisker-:D
19:57.57Antiarchttp://wowwebstats.com/wf626j5ssxbai?s=3227-3632 - Wraith got Fel Rage twice, neither Golijov or Adrine did
19:58.16AntiarcAre your rogues just autoattacking?!
19:58.29Fisker-nope
19:58.33Fisker-i don't know what their problem is
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19:58.44durcynAntiarc: also, per your suggestion I checked out RegisterTimeLeftTrigger, but the callback doesn't seem to be passing the bar correctly, specifically line 884 - I get k and remaining, but not self, when using it externally
19:58.49PsychoSeriously, 800 DPS on gurtogg is weaksauce.
19:59.24Snagoagree with Psycho
19:59.24AntiarcOnly 50% of Flagg's damage if white
19:59.29AntiarcThat tells me he fails at Slice and Dice
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20:00.18AntiarcFlagg also uses Eviscerate
20:00.20Antiarcwtf
20:00.23Fisker-yeah
20:00.28Fisker-told them that
20:00.29AntiarcBeat him about the ears with the following:
20:00.44Antiarc3S/5R UNTIL YOUR FINGERS FALL OFF
20:01.07Fisker-3 point snd, 5 point rupture?
20:01.26PsychoUnless you have the energy for a different cycle.
20:01.40AntiarcA combat fist rogue won't have energy for a different cycle
20:01.48PsychoWell there you go.
20:01.49SnagoZärnces needs to l2rupture
20:01.55AntiarcHe only has one piece of T4
20:02.00AntiarcSo he needs to be using 3s/5r
20:02.03AntiarcFlagg's boots are fail, tell him to get badge boots
20:02.30AntiarcOh, wait
20:02.33AntiarcHe has 2pc T4
20:02.38AntiarcHe can run 1s/5r then
20:02.41SnagoAlso Flagg: 12x Throw (Physical) wtf?
20:02.52PsychoBloodboil
20:02.53NeoTronI was glad to see both our rogues do >2000 dps on brutallus
20:02.56Fisker-i believe that was in the end of the fight
20:02.58PsychoHe probably threw while he was out back.
20:02.58Fisker-one of our locks died
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20:03.10AntiarcWe never, ever have melee take bloodboils
20:03.10Fisker-and he had to go in the bloodboil rotation
20:03.15AntiarcBecause they're worthless at range
20:03.38durcyni'd rather give someone double bloodboil than have a rogue stop dps
20:03.42PsychoI have melee take bloodboil over healers, but I think that's all personal preference.
20:04.06durcyntheir purpose is to stab things, and last i checked those stabby bits weren't 30 yards long
20:04.08AntiarcA healer can continue to heal while bloodboiled - a melee's just dead weight at 30 yards.
20:04.18Snagotaking the melee out for a bloodboil = less dps = longer fight in my book
20:04.24AntiarcA rogue staying on bloodboil = shorter fight = fewer heals needed
20:04.30AntiarcHaha, Snago
20:04.32CIA-4003toadkiller * r70775 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua:
20:04.32CIA-40AutoBar :
20:04.32CIA-40-- Add SetInventoryItem("player", slot) to item tooltip code to handle equipped stuff
20:04.33Snago:)
20:04.48PsychoSure, that's correct.
20:05.38PsychoBut they can't heal while they're moving to and from bloodboil positions, and threat's an issue for my arms warrior, ret paladin, and enhancement shaman, so bringing the melee group out makes sense for my raid.
20:06.02durcynPsycho: that's why you have healers stand on the edge and the rest of the soakers move behind/infront of them
20:06.17AntiarcMoving the arms warrior out drops Blood Frenzy, and moving the shaman out drops Unleashed Rage :/
20:06.37durcynand seriously, how does a warlock die on bloodboil, that's dumb to start with
20:07.07NeoTrondurcyn: they didn't get heals?
20:07.10PsychoWhen there's no melee DPS on the target, losing blood frenzy and unleashed rage for that group doesn't make a big difference.
20:07.41AntiarcFisker-: Honestly, it looks like the biggest problem is that a) your rogues fail at SnD, and b) your rogues fail at Rupture, and therefore c) your rogues fail at their DPS cycle
20:07.46PsychoI'll try having healers take one and moving groups around them, but the way we've done it has always worked fine.
20:08.02PsychoThe only real gain I see from it is having rogues be able to DPS more.
20:08.07Fisker-alright Antiarc
20:08.10Fisker-i'll pass it along
20:08.17durcynPsycho: that's a huge gain tbh
20:08.23Antiarc50-54% white damage for a combat rogue is pretty pathetic
20:08.36AntiarcThat should be above 60% nearly without exception
20:08.37durcynwait, 50% white attacks with windfury?
20:08.40AntiarcYes
20:08.42durcynholy shit
20:08.57PsychoWhen we start wiping because healers are out of mana rather than people being retarded, I'll be concerned about the length of the fight, durcyn =P
20:09.06durcynFisker-: kick them and recruit my alt rogue imo
20:09.09CIA-4003toadkiller * r70776 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/esES.lua:
20:09.09CIA-40LibBabble-Spell-3.0
20:09.09CIA-40- Detectar Invisibilidad -> Detectar invisibilidad
20:09.15PsychoBut I suppose I'm pushing us to get our clear times down so I may as well change it up to put more DPS on him.
20:09.22AntiarcActually
20:09.27AntiarcIt looks like Flagg didn't get Windfury
20:09.30durcynPsycho: healers should already be chain-potting on bloodboil, tell them to stop slacking
20:09.34PaeneTinyboom: It just updated, give it a shot
20:09.35NeoTronon our brutallus kill the rouges had almost 70% wite damage
20:09.36Antiarc50% is STILL low
20:09.45AntiarcFisker-: What's your melee group comp like?
20:09.52Psychodurcyn: Re-read what I typed.
20:09.53durcynToadkiller: GetSpellInfo(132)
20:09.54TinyboomPaene: on it:)
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20:09.58NeoTronas a note they both avoided using deadly poison and rupture
20:10.14NeoTronbecause we were running out of debuff slots and things like JoW and DS ran off
20:10.52Chompersteron to 20%
20:10.53durcynlolwut, did you have ten shadow priests or something?
20:11.00Chompersalmost like people...focused :O
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20:11.18PaeneTinyboom: me thinks you'll have an error
20:11.23Paenejust found something
20:11.36PsychoI give our main healer group a shadow priest with the resto shamans, paladins take bloodboils so they get mana back from heals, everyone chain-pots.
20:11.39NeoTrondurcyn: 2 shadow locks, 1 fire lock, 1 aff lock, 2 shadow priests, 2 druids.. err stuff
20:11.50durcynNeoTron: sounds failish.
20:11.53NeoTron2 fire mages
20:12.02PsychoOh, you were talking to Neo
20:12.04sb*cry* kalecgos
20:12.12NeoTrondurcyn: no?
20:12.13NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/2gyfg6gkf4lmu?s=13605-13966&m
20:12.29AntiarcFisker-: I'm trying to figure out how you registered a kill with 5.6 million damage, and our kill was 8.8 milliom damage
20:12.51PsychoAll of my kills are 5.6, antiarc
20:12.59Psycho(assuming we're still talking bloodboil)
20:13.08AntiarcYeah, wowwiki confirms that o.0
20:13.09Antiarcwtf.
20:13.15AntiarcOh
20:13.16AntiarcWait
20:13.21AntiarcI'm looking at Essence of Suffering. >_>
20:13.23PsychoMaybe your rogue accidentally hit a wall instead of Gurtogg.
20:13.23Psychorofl
20:13.50Fisker-heh
20:13.52AntiarcYeah, 5.692 mil damage on our last kill
20:13.59Fisker-during fel rage he just completely went for the wall!
20:14.12AntiarcBRICK WALL HAS FEL RAGE
20:14.18Fisker-Anyways the rogue just called someone else criticizing the general rogue dps for a facist
20:14.19NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/2gyfg6gkf4lmu?s=13605-13966&a=82#buffs for the buffs
20:14.22genetik-_misunderstood the phrase "balls to the walls dps"
20:14.24genetik-_heh
20:14.25Fisker-now i pwned him with arguments
20:14.29Fisker-wonder what i'll be called
20:14.35Psychorofl
20:14.47PsychoFisker, I have never seen a rogue that couldn't use cycles correctly do decent DPS
20:14.49Fisker-I actually thought rogues became harder to play after TBC arrived
20:14.52NeoTronFisker-: sounds like a lot of win
20:14.54AntiarcA rogue who is in T6 content and is opposed to suggestions to improve backed by emperical evidence is a scrub, IMO.
20:15.17PsychoOur best rogue worked with all of the others way back when we first started raiding and optimized the fuck out of their ability usage
20:15.20PsychoAnd now we have awesome rogues.
20:15.21Fisker-he just got pissed we pulled in another rogue in our raid team :P
20:15.27Fisker-that's why the whole discussion started
20:15.32NeoTronand he's not as good?
20:15.41chiper_"Brick Wall's [Collapse] crits you for 40,000."  "You die"
20:15.43Fisker-if i recall correctly this rogue is pretty awesome
20:15.51AntiarcWhich rogue is that?
20:15.53Fisker-but his gear is kinda outdated because of his vacation
20:16.03Fisker-he's not on any charts
20:16.06AntiarcHonestly, gear counts for a LOT less than good cycle usage.
20:16.15Fisker-but he used to be in the top all the time
20:16.23Fisker-even though he used eviscerate mainly :P
20:16.26AntiarcBad gear + good cycle will out-DPS good gear + bad cycle any day of the week
20:16.45durcynmy crappy rogue alt with s1 swords outdpses lazy mains
20:16.57AntiarcA rogue that lets SnD fall off for any significant amount of time needs to look at some hard numbers regarding his class's damage output
20:17.09Chompersi'm a rogue
20:17.13Chomperswhats slice and dice?
20:17.16Chompersis it new?
20:17.21Zeksieheh
20:17.23Chompers:v
20:17.25Zeksiecooking skill
20:17.36StarinniaChompers its a talent in the next expansion
20:17.39Starinnia:P
20:18.34TinyboomPaene: borked:p
20:18.37Paeneyeah
20:18.42Vulcanusphail XD
20:18.43Paenegot two seconds
20:18.48PaeneI can tell you where
20:18.49Paenelol
20:18.53Paeneit's an easy fix
20:18.56*** join/#wowace Delorala (n=iwill@p5DC0E2AB.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:19.11PaeneOpen Cryolysis2/core/events.lua
20:19.15durcynAntiarc: anyway, about that libbars :/
20:19.29Vulcanuseverybody wants moar trunked libbars XD
20:19.47Fisker-btw Antiarc
20:19.55Fisker-do you keep waiting for fel rage to pop adren rush?
20:19.58Paenedo a search for PolyBlame
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20:20.33Paeneafter Cryolysis2:AddMessage....blah blah blah   put the word "end" (without the quotes)
20:20.40Vulcanus...
20:20.40VulcanusXD
20:20.43Paenelol
20:20.50TinyboomPaene: will do:)
20:20.51Paenestupid syntax
20:21.04Paenethen save and reloadui :)
20:21.08Paenelemme know then
20:21.13PsychoFisker-: Since it may never hit you, I don't see the point of saving one of your best CDs for a 1/25 chance every fel rage.
20:21.20Psychowell, not 1/25
20:21.41durcynthe point of cooldowns is to use them sooner so they'll come back up faster
20:21.59PaeneNO!!! SAVE THEM FOR 20%!!!!!
20:22.02NeoTrondurcyn: depending on the fight duration waiting might be a good idea, or not
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20:22.18Zeksieyou regain energy too fast to use with Fel Rage anyway... without adrenaline rush
20:22.22NeoTronlike on Brutallus I can use my trinket any time in the first minute and a half at least
20:22.33AntiarcFisker-: I pop AR on the first fel rage, yes
20:22.41AntiarcWell
20:22.45AntiarcThe first person to get Fel Rage
20:22.48AntiarcNot if I get it
20:22.48Zeksieyeah. same
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20:23.04Zeksiefree dmg
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20:23.08NeoTronwe do the same with trinkets and heroisms
20:23.11PaeneTinyboom: success?
20:23.23AntiarcBut I autoattack with SnD for the first phase, then drums/BF/AR during the first fel rage, then just DPS normally from then on, using BF/drums for fel rage
20:23.44AntiarcI generally end up needing to vanish about the end of the second normal phase, and from then on I'm good to go all-out with my damage
20:24.28CIA-4003paene * r70777 10Cryolysis2/core/events.lua:
20:24.28CIA-40Cryolysis2:
20:24.28CIA-40- Fixed a syntax error
20:24.40TinyboomPaene: nope, but might be cause i added libbars manually:p
20:24.55Paenewhat error do you get?
20:25.16NeoTronhalp me test the new magic marker version: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11748.new#110
20:25.36Jaxonhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11748.new#110
20:25.41Jaxonwhoops
20:25.58JaxonI haven't used Putty in ages and apparently it pastes on right-click in XP.
20:26.20hasteset it to xterm behavior
20:26.25NeoTronJaxon: hehe
20:26.47PsychoJaxon = bestfriendhunter.
20:26.59mitch0erm, was there an Icy Veins change recently that I missed?
20:27.38TinyboomPaene: http://ace.pastey.net/86206 3 of the errors, have to get some sleep so i get up for work, but will test once more in a sec.
20:28.42PaeneTinyboom: yeah, you're loading LibBars wrong
20:28.43mitch0oh. just reading the patchnotes... seems I haven't played enough recently ;)
20:29.17Paeneer
20:29.17Paeneinstalling it wrong or something
20:29.30Paenetry updating just cryo2 with externals
20:29.42Paenebut you'd have to fix that first error again
20:30.06TinyboomPaene: would it work if i made a libs dir in cryo2 and added the lib there?
20:30.16Paeneyeah, I believe so
20:30.31PaeneLibs/LibBars-1.0/LibBars.lua
20:30.40Paenemake sure there's not 2 LibBars-1.0 folders
20:31.52Paeneer
20:31.57PaeneLibBars-1.0.lua
20:31.58Paenesorry
20:32.04Fisker-nict
20:32.05Fisker-nice
20:32.10Fisker-it appears that my trouble have paid off
20:32.25NeoTronFisker-: rogues beat the tanks now? :P
20:32.31Fisker-not that
20:32.52Fisker-I was demoted for questioning the officers in giving out shadow resistance gear to 10 healers
20:33.02Fisker-i said they should save for mother shazrah
20:33.14Fisker-They said i had a hidden agenda to destroy the guild
20:33.14NeoTron10 healers seems a bit excessive
20:33.23Fisker-I took offense and got demoted :D
20:33.27sbyay
20:33.30sbkalecgos finally
20:33.32JaxonFisker-: I remember you bringing this up a while back, so you ended up being right?
20:33.44Fisker-we haven't reached shazrah yet
20:33.58JaxonI mean, of course 10 healers is retarded, but have the officers realized it yet.
20:34.00PsychoShazzrah is in Molten Core.
20:34.00NeoTrondid you destroy the guild yet?
20:34.10Fisker-But basically first he promised it would only be 5 "pretty dedicated" healers
20:34.23Fisker-(healers which have like 60-80% attendance where i have like 96%)
20:34.31Fisker-Then they extended the offer to all of our healers
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20:34.40NeoTronwe gave SR to healers first, to help make hyjal a bit easier
20:34.46Fisker-thus ensuring that we would eventually reach a place where we would've wasted hearts of darkness
20:34.53CIA-4003scorpio0920 * r70779 10Mangler/ (Mangler.toc localization_zhCN.lua localization_zhTW.lua):
20:34.53CIA-40Mangler:
20:34.53CIA-40- Added zhCN and zhTW localization.
20:34.54CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70778 10RBM/RBM/ (Core.lua Defaults.lua ModuleClasses/Boss.lua): RBM: Added Option to change where alerts are displayed. The *** are now automatically added to all boss announces. Adjust Accordingly.
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20:35.12Fisker-Anyways it appears some of the other officers have noticed that they were infact the jackasses screwing the guild and not me
20:35.26Fisker-atleast that's the rumors i have from some of my loyal minions
20:35.32NeoTronhandy
20:35.36Jaxon"Healer looking for guild, have shadow resist gear"
20:35.49CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70780 10RBM/RBM_Config/Config.lua: RBM_Config: Added option to change where alerts are shown.
20:36.03NeoTronFisker-: got any good healers that look for a guild that is further progressed? SR is a plus!
20:36.10NeoTronhehe
20:36.14TinyboomPaene: bleh, gonna try tomorrow, but still would not load the lib when added manually, though i probably screwed something up...
20:36.16Fisker-hehe
20:36.30NeoTron10 healers though is stupid
20:36.36NeoTronyou don't need that many for shahraz
20:36.56Fisker-exactly
20:36.57JaxonThey aren't at Shahraz yet, the SR was going out for Azgalor, I assume.
20:37.03Fisker-yeah
20:37.07Fisker-but it's pointless
20:37.14Fisker-at that point we already had azgalor on farm
20:37.23Fisker-and that was pre-aoe nerf
20:37.35Fisker-now he's a joke
20:37.36PsychoFisker-: I saved our hearts for the first night we made major attempts on Shahraz. Took a bit of time on our first two nights to get it all distributed and such, but we ended up wasting very few hearts.
20:37.51Fisker-that was my intention as well
20:37.52PsychoSo it sucks that your guild was so gung-ho to give it out early.
20:38.08CIA-4003apoco 07v2 * r70781 10RBM/RBM_Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Felmyst.lua Kalecgos.lua): RBM_Sunwell: Update to new Announcing API.
20:38.09JaxonWe didn't waste any, but lots of us had to buy extra hearts.
20:38.12Fisker-yeah
20:38.17Fisker-I secured my shadow gear as well
20:38.30PsychoJaxon: I think those of you who spent money on hearts should be reimbursed for it.
20:38.35Fisker-i'm not going to Shazrah "Well you were the only fucktard stupid enough to decline our offer, we won't take you in for this run, bai"
20:38.35vhaarrI didn't notice any difference pre and post-nerf on Azgalor, but maybe that's because I'm just tanking him.
20:38.38PsychoThe guild bank has enough gold to do so.
20:38.48Fisker-vhaarr the fire aoe is much less of a problem now
20:38.53Fisker-it has a way shorter range
20:38.56vhaarryeah I know what they changed
20:39.00vhaarrI'm saying I didn't notice any differenec
20:39.03Fisker-ah
20:39.04PsychoAnd it doesn't do enough damage to kill anyone with more HP than a potato.
20:39.16Fisker-yeah exactly
20:39.19Jaxonvhaarr: "bosscrotch"
20:39.25Fisker-sometimes we would be unlocky and it would snowball into a wipe
20:39.31Fisker-err
20:39.34Fisker-unlucky ;D
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20:40.04Fisker-but basically even critters can survive now
20:40.14chiper_my guild plans to start Lurker this week.  I should probably read up on it
20:40.18vhaarrFisker-: it's really about positioning, though, the only ones who should have problems with RoF is melee, and that's easily fixed by wearing some fire resistance.
20:40.34CIA-4003starinnia * r70782 10StatBlocks_Reagents/StatBlocks_Reagents.lua: StatBlocks_Reagents: Remove reagent table, just use IDs in the update function
20:41.08Fisker-yeah vhaarr we're not completely grasping the "Stay out of the fire" mechanic yet
20:41.24vhaarrFisker-: it's just about splitting the raid up around the boss and standing at max range
20:41.27Fisker-MC, BWL, MH and Black Temple has apparently not been enough training
20:41.28Fisker-:D
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20:41.30vhaarrFisker-: slap your RL for slacking
20:41.52Fisker-that reminds me how i hate supremus
20:41.56Psychorofl
20:42.08PsychoWe need to start giving out awards for dying repeatedly on supremus.
20:42.11Fisker-I was healing  a warlock running through a volcano (YES RUNNING THROUGH A VOLCANO)
20:42.13PsychoI would've won one last week.
20:42.19vhaarrhaha
20:42.20Fisker-I was pretty close to the same volcano
20:42.26Fisker-and one spawned inside me
20:42.30vhaarrI run through them every chance I get :P
20:42.31Fisker-and i died in one tick
20:42.41Fisker-because i got hit 4 times from 2 volcanos
20:42.47Fisker-didn't even consider shielding :(
20:43.18PsychoOur melee is especially hilarious most of the time on Supremus.
20:43.18Fisker-atleast i could go to the bathroom while they finished up
20:43.26Fisker-(dying on first phase change = win)
20:43.29Psycho"WHAT THE FUCK WHAT DID I JUST GET HIT BY, PSYCHO YOU MAKE UP FOR MY DPS"
20:43.49vhaarrour melee really don't get it, they don't move until after he starts chasing someone
20:43.55Fisker-oh we got one of those as well
20:44.00vhaarrso in many cases one of them get oneshot
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20:44.10Fisker-although he just keeps going like "OMG WTF DID I DIE FROM" etc.
20:44.29Fisker-then he uses the rest of the fight to call for combat resses while everyone else ignores him
20:44.36Psychorofl
20:44.54PsychoWe CR bloodninja as many times as we can so he can die as often as possible.
20:45.03PsychoThe more he dies the better we do in the rest of the instance.
20:45.06Fisker-cruel
20:45.21genetik-_i hate when people other than the raid leader call for combat resses
20:45.38Psychogenetik-_: I hate it more when people other than me don't even bother asking for one and just use theirs.
20:45.44Fisker-i hate people who say anything on ventrilo during a combat
20:45.57genetik-_Psycho: oh yeah, definitely
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20:46.09Fisker-I want to hear one thing, and one thing only
20:46.12PsychoFisker-: You'd hate my guild then. Jaxon breaks blood vessels every night because of it.
20:46.18Fisker-and that's "<healer's name> is dead"
20:46.34Fisker-so i know if i have to use more than one button the whole fight
20:46.48PsychoIt's like this retarded hodgepodge of popular tunes from the 50s, internet memes, and generally people not knowing when enough is enough.
20:47.09Fisker-btw
20:47.10genetik-_Fisker-: even that's overkill for ventrilo.  our healers have macros that they hit when they can't heal their assigned target(s)
20:47.23Fisker-you should guess how many times we had tanks dying to arcing smash during fel rage on bloodboil :D
20:47.30Psycho127
20:47.32EricaSome people just like to hear their face rattle
20:47.44Fisker-also one of our tank/fel rage healers asked on some of the last tries
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20:47.56Fisker-"So i'm supposed to heal someone else than the warrior and druid tanks?"
20:48.22EvilJohn-our healing officers makes the healers repeat their assigned duties now
20:48.41vhaarrFisker-: well, having healing assignments is important, I'm not sure that's such a bad question
20:48.42Fisker-Also there's these beast hunters thingies with pets
20:48.50Ericarofl
20:48.53Fisker-vhaarr we already said that from the beginning
20:49.04Fisker-and it's a druid so he sleeps the turtle
20:49.06vhaarrright, so he didn't listen then
20:49.12Fisker-but they also dispel the turtle sometimes
20:49.21Fisker-and some warlock had put curse of shadow on it
20:49.26Fisker-and he thought it broke because of that
20:49.30Fisker-"DON'T DOT UP MY TURTLE!"
20:49.35Fisker-"It's not breaking it"
20:49.41Fisker-"I DON'T GIVE A SHIT DON'T FUCKING DOT MY TURTLE"
20:49.52Fisker-:D
20:49.55Fisker-fun times
20:50.02Ericasounds kinda dirty
20:50.03genetik-_i'd crack up if i heard someone saying that
20:50.09genetik-_out of context, it's just hilarious
20:50.14Ericalol
20:50.36EvilJohn-i don't disagree with him.... people see any debuff on the mob and they start to go DPS crazy or let loose a SoC or something
20:50.45EvilJohn-especially the tv watching raider
20:50.57genetik-_EvilJohn-: not like we know any of those
20:51.05EvilJohn-they were in failure, too
20:51.34vhaarryou play in Failure on Magtheridon?
20:52.04genetik-_no, there's a Failure on Elune-US also
20:52.23Fisker-EvilJohn it was more the context
20:52.28vhaarrah, it's just I know some people in Failure on Mag-EU
20:52.32Fisker-because he didn't knew the turtles got dispelled somehow
20:52.38Fisker-he tried to blame the warlock for breaking it
20:52.47EvilJohn-well
20:52.51EvilJohn-that's learned behavior
20:52.51Fisker-and when he got told it was a non-damage dot he freaked totally out
20:53.18durcynthe other mobs yelling "wake up, turtle thing" didn't clue him in?
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20:53.36RaydenUnihttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/139.html
20:54.00genetik-_heh.. during one of our early SSC raids, we had just brought in a survival hunter to our raids for the first time
20:54.16genetik-_i happened to look over debuffs on one of the trash mobs and saw 'expose weakness' up
20:54.23genetik-_but i misread it as 'expose armor'
20:54.25genetik-_and flipped out
20:54.28Fisker-of course not durcyn
20:55.41CIA-4003funkydude * r70783 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add to blacklist
20:56.49RaydenUniwhat does a survival hunter have to do with expose armor?
20:57.09genetik-_RaydenUni: absolutely nothing :)
20:57.15EvilJohn-the rogue debuff can prevent tank from sundering
20:57.22genetik-_i misread it and thought a rogue had put expose armor on the mob i was busy tanking
20:57.22CIA-4003funkydude * r70784 10BadBoy/BadBoy.toc: BadBoy: bump to v1.02
20:57.26RaydenUniyeah and the story would have made sense if he mentioned a new rogue
20:57.33RaydenUnibut he opened with "we had a new hunter"
20:57.34genetik-_there weren't any new rogues
20:57.36EvilJohn-our MT is kinda of anewb
20:57.39genetik-_:P
20:57.59RaydenUni"we didn't take a paladin to the raid and then i looked over and saw i had power word fortitude and flipped out!"
20:58.03RaydenUnihuh? where is the connection?
20:58.17EvilJohn-misread the hunter debuff as the rogue debuff
20:58.26RaydenUnioh
20:58.38RaydenUniexpose weakness is a hunter skill?
20:58.43genetik-_yes
20:58.45RaydenUninot too familiar with hunters :P
20:58.48RaydenUnithat makes sense
20:59.00Zeksiei need a bag mod that will tell me what WAS in a slot.... cos I hate looking at this empty slot and you can't for the life of you remember what you should re-stock..
20:59.06RaydenUnislightly unrelated
20:59.16RaydenUniwon't improved sunder overwrite expose armor?
20:59.17EvilJohn-it was an attempt at a self warming heart filling story of self-deprecation and self-actualization
20:59.17CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70785 10Hourglass/core.lua: bugfix
21:01.10genetik-_RaydenUni: improved sunder armor doesn't increase the value of it, only the amount of rage needed
21:01.18genetik-_well.. decreases the amount of rage needed
21:01.33charonis there an alternate theory or does veras darkshadow (council) simply reset aggro every time he reappears from vanish?
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21:01.48Jaxoncharon: that is why he is tauntable.
21:01.49RaydenUnioh
21:02.22charoni'm asking because threat-2.0 doesn't have support for that, so i might as well figure out the event and make an NPC module
21:02.56CIA-4003durcyn 07Ace3 * r70786 10Hourglass/core.lua: apparently, the ratio of if to end must be 1:1, who knew
21:03.33vhaarrcharon: support for what?
21:03.39vhaarryou don't make any sense
21:03.47charonit doesn't have an NPC module for council
21:04.01vhaarrright, that's not "support for a feature"
21:04.18charonyeah let's nitpick over semantics
21:04.21charongrumbles off
21:04.33Fisker-yay
21:04.36Fisker-semantics nitpicking
21:04.37Fisker-GO
21:05.18vhaarrI'm not nitpicking over semantics, I was confused at his statement
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21:06.13Chompers[10:03]You are now Exalted with The Scale of the Sands.
21:06.16Chompers:D
21:07.00Fisker-OLD CHOMPERS
21:07.52Arrowmasterthey should have left the trash rep the same and made archimonde give 10x as much rep
21:07.53Polarina"You are now Exalted with Blizzard Entertainment."
21:07.57dieckmoin. does anyone know a good metal (music) channel on FreeNode?
21:08.02diecksry for ot
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21:08.22vhaarrthe new trash rep is silly, we recruit someone and bring them for 3 raids and they're exalted now
21:08.39Funkeh`Apoco, you know {skull} is localized right
21:08.54Funkeh`i.e. using it in raid warnings is fail
21:09.06Arrowmaster{rt8} is localized too
21:09.11Arrowmasterblizzard fails
21:09.54vhaarrthat's silly
21:09.56dieckit's nice, though. german people type {skull} and I see the symbol, they the text. If they type {totenkopf} they see it, and I see the text. so it's localized locally when receiving messages :)
21:10.05dieckcomplete mess
21:10.10vhaarrchrist
21:10.12Apocois it Funkeh`?
21:10.16vhaarrI agree with Arrowmaster
21:10.19vhaarrblizz fails again
21:10.27Arrowmasteror their localizers fail
21:10.31Funkeh`yes
21:10.34Apocowow.
21:10.36ApocoThat does fail.
21:10.38Arrowmasterif they didnt intend for rt# to get localized
21:10.38Funkeh`so if you have a mix of locales ina raid
21:10.38ApocoAlright thanks.
21:10.40Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
21:10.42Funkeh`;p
21:10.50Apocoit doesn't send it out as {Skull}
21:10.53Apocoonly displays that locally.
21:11.01Funkeh`oh right
21:11.03Funkeh`well still
21:11.08durcyneven better, {rt1} is localized too
21:11.11Apocoit sends it out as *** so it doesn't screw with other mods that use *** to detect boss mod strings.
21:11.20durcynto whatever 'raid target' is abbreviated to in that locale
21:12.19ApocoI can't believe they localized {Skull}
21:12.19Apoco-_-
21:12.24Apocoffs
21:12.30vhaarrI can believe that
21:12.34vhaarrbut {rt1}, no way
21:12.48ApocoI wonder if {SKULL} works in all clients.
21:12.52Arrowmasteris there a way to detect the realms locale on eu realms?
21:12.52Funkeh`they fucked it up in chat bubbles also
21:12.57Funkeh`it doesn't show as icons there
21:13.20Apocomy god.
21:13.43exor674anyone have an idea of something ClassTimeresque that WORKS
21:13.45vhaarrArrowmaster: no
21:13.47Arrowmastermaybe we can get them to make itemlinks show in color in chat bubbles too when they fix this
21:13.54vhaarrArrowmaster: but that wouldn't help you
21:13.57ApocoWhen they fix this?
21:14.02Apocoyou mean IF they fix this
21:14.07Funkeh`they wont
21:14.08hydrogenspeaking of targeting... is there any way to macro targetting a mob with a given mark?
21:14.15Arrowmasterno
21:14.22Arrowmasterand somebody asks that every damn damn
21:14.25Arrowmasterday
21:14.28hypetechhaha
21:14.32Apoco. /target [target=rt1]?
21:14.35Apocowouldnt that work?
21:14.38Arrowmasterno
21:14.46Apocoor /assist [target=rt1target]
21:14.52vhaarrof course it doesn't work
21:15.00Apocofigures
21:15.04vhaarrApoco: if that worked, you could have a decursive macro
21:15.10Arrowmasteryou can do /target [target=TANKNAME-target]
21:15.12Apocoahh true
21:15.12PolarinaApoco: /target [target=raid1]
21:15.13vhaarrone-click dispelling
21:15.20durcynrt1 is not a valid token
21:15.27Apocothats why you cant do it then.
21:15.33Apocomakes sense.
21:15.33durcynand never will be, in all likelihood
21:15.52Apocoyeah
21:15.52Apocobecause you could have a mod just icon everyone that needs decursed etc
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21:19.33CIA-4003paene * r70787 10Cryolysis2/core/events.lua:
21:19.34CIA-40Cryolysis2:
21:19.34CIA-40- Temporarily removed polymorph breaking blame announcement
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21:20.41CIA-4003rabbit * r70788 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (RaidWarn.lua TargetMonitor.lua): BigWigs: Plugins/RaidWarn: Uses chat filters instead of hooking.
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21:22.53Arrowmastervhaarr: bossblock update? i wasnt aware the blizzard raidwarning frame used the chatfilters
21:23.11vhaarrArrowmaster: who changed bossblock?
21:23.11Brunersanyone tried to fly from silvermoon to zul'aman recently?
21:23.18vhaarrArrowmaster: read the commit again
21:23.32Arrowmasterbah ill look at the diff later
21:24.03vhaarrArrowmaster: see the commit note? :P
21:24.06vhaarr(RaidWarn.lua TargetMonitor.lua): BigWigs: Plugins/RaidWarn:
21:24.17Arrowmasteryes i do
21:24.42Arrowmastercan i use the 'i just woke up' excuse?
21:26.26vhaarryeah :P
21:27.50CIA-4003rabbit * r70789 10oUF_Banzai/ (libs/ oUF_Banzai.lua oUF_Banzai.toc): oUF_Banzai: Add external and update to the latest oUF base thanks to p3lim.
21:28.07charonAntiarc: chatter urlcopy rewrites www.foo.com to http://www.foo.com which is kinda silly if you have teamspeak at that address :)
21:28.09vhaarrp3lim: could you test that, please, I don't have WoW here
21:29.18CIA-4003rabbit * r70790 10SimpleBossWhisperer/SimpleBossWhisperer.lua: SimpleBossWhisperer: Use chat filters instead of hooking.
21:29.36Arrowmasterchatter urlcopy is just silly, he needs to let me replace it with http://arrowmaster.homeip.net/UrlCopy.zip
21:29.53vhaarrArrowmaster: pastey?
21:29.54AntiarcArrowmaster: go for it
21:30.52Arrowmastersec ill pastey for you
21:31.22CIA-4003ackis * r70791 10AckisRecipeList/ (Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua RecipeDB/ARL-BeastTrain.lua):
21:31.22CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
21:31.22CIA-40- Converted all hunter "Bites" to new format
21:31.22CIA-40- All dry-coded
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21:33.23CIA-4003ackis * r70792 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ (5 files):
21:33.23CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
21:33.23CIA-40- Removed unneeded localizations
21:33.23CIA-40- All dry-coded
21:33.30Arrowmastervhaarr: http://ace.pastey.net/86210
21:33.38AckisWorkcackles at all the dry-coding :P
21:34.02durcynyou're awfully proud of your dry-coding, pal
21:34.12AckisWorkyes it's awful
21:34.16AckisWorksee what i did there?
21:36.11Arrowmastervhaarr: i know its a little ugly with the gsubing but any suggestions?
21:36.40NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/2gyfg6gkf4lmu?s=13198-13289&m  <-- all I need to do to do that kind of dps consistently is to get another 20-30% crit
21:36.45NeoTronshould be easy enough
21:37.16Arrowmasteroh yeah i need to check our wws from yesterday
21:37.37Arrowmasteri respeced destro and almost killed myself on RoS from moonkin+elemental shaman!
21:38.10PsychoI trust my healers a great deal more than I should on p2 after deadens =P
21:38.21PsychoI'm like "HALF HP GONE YEAH LOAD UP ANOTHER SHADOW BOLT BITCHES"
21:38.32AckisWorkArrowmaster: I'm a holy priest and I can kill myself :P
21:38.43Arrowmasteri was getting 15k crits
21:38.45PsychoOnly because you have SWD, ackis
21:38.51NeoTronstill I actually pulled aggro of our druid tank who had 2x misdirect, drums and the infinite threat you get on brutallus
21:38.57NeoTronand I pulled aggro pretty damn fast
21:39.01AckisWorkMind blast crit, SW:P with a SW:D crit = uh oh
21:39.13NeoTron3056 DPS on a no gimick fight is sick
21:39.22vithosNeoTron: but have you pulled aggro on kalecgos's demon?
21:39.27NeoTronI have not
21:39.30durcynAntiarc: did you see the bit about RegisterTimeLeftTrigger?
21:39.33vithosl2p imo!
21:39.45nevcairielnoone does constant 3k dps
21:39.51NeoTronnevcairiel: of course
21:39.59NeoTronI normally don't sport 61% crit rate
21:40.13NeoTronbut it was fun and totally worth dying for
21:40.14Antiarcdurcyn: yeah, I'm gonna look at it, just don't have time right now
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21:40.30NeoTron<PROTECTED>
21:40.33durcynAntiarc: cool, thanks
21:41.34vithosthe first 60 seconds of brutallus i'm praying to the aggro gods
21:41.38nevcairielheh our one rogue owned on BB today, he got heroim while he had felrage
21:41.50nevcairiel2100 dps unpotted on a melee unfriendly fight
21:42.20nevcairieli wonder if can split the time when he actually had felrage..
21:42.41NeoTronvithos: what tanks?
21:42.44vithoswait 30 seconds, FD resist = /afk, FD not resisted = cooldowns -> 4000 tps
21:42.48AntiarcBB is melee unfriendly?
21:42.50NeoTronwe ran with double druid last night, that's pretty easy on threat
21:42.56vithoswe originally did prot pally, druid
21:43.08vithosbut our prot pally emo spiralled
21:43.11vithosso now warrior druid
21:43.21nevcairielAntiarc: you have to run around during felrage phase
21:43.28vhaarrArrowmaster: looks good I think
21:43.37nevcairielfollow BB whereever he runs to
21:43.46NeoTronnevcairiel: ranged runs around too
21:43.53NeoTronnevcairiel: to avoid standing near him and to spread out
21:44.01NeoTronplus ranged typically runs every bloodboil while melee does not :P
21:44.01nevcairielyeah of course
21:44.06nevcairielits in general dps unfriendly :D
21:44.12nevcairielnever seen that high numbers on BB
21:44.33NeoTronwhat I find most amusing is how when we first did it
21:44.33Arrowmasterhow the fuck do i still manage to do the most healing on myself when im speced 2/3 soul leach and thats the only healing ability i have
21:44.37NeoTronwe were so threat constrained
21:44.46NeoTronand now we do like 50-100% more dmg almost and we have fewer issues
21:44.58HjalteArrowmaster: Soul leach usually mostly does overhealing to me
21:45.09Arrowmaster63% overheal
21:45.23Arrowmaster17579 shadowbolt crit lastnight lol
21:45.28Arrowmasteri love destro
21:45.47HjalteEveryone can do big crits on RoS and the like :P
21:45.51NeoTronbiggest crit on brut was 9973
21:45.53nevcairielwe had a awesome theron yesterday
21:45.56nevcairiel30k raid dps
21:45.58NeoTronbut all the locks had was 1xboomkin.
21:46.01NeoTronno shammy, no shadow priest
21:46.02nevcairiel*teron
21:46.30NeoTronI still remember the day I broke 10k crit the first time
21:46.32NeoTronon hydross
21:46.48NeoTronwith ISB up, power infusion, trinket, set bonus proc all happening at the same time
21:46.58Arrowmaster25.8k raid dps on teron
21:47.18NeoTronconsidering how bad our teron RDPS is I'm happy with our brut dps
21:47.57NeoTronhrm. I guess it was 28.2k the last time but still
21:48.21nevcairielwe had teron on 15% or so when the first one died after having ghosts
21:48.23nevcairielwe were like
21:48.30nevcairielwtf, still battle rez?
21:48.45ArrowmasterIDC sucks, 17.5% shadowbolt midigation from resists =(
21:48.56nevcairielyeah that crazy aura
21:49.05NeoTronnot exactly magic dps friendly
21:49.11Zynderpshmmm, can one enable Bartender to switch bar 1 to bar 2 while holding Shift without paging on mousescroll ;/
21:49.22nevcairielsure
21:49.28nevcairieljust disable mouse-scroll paging
21:49.32nevcairielaka, unbind the keys
21:49.32Arrowmasterunbind the shift mousecroll
21:49.34Zynderpsah, obviously
21:49.44Zynderpsequips silly hat
21:50.27Zyndrometime to slim this farm of buttons down
21:50.55luxusdoes bartender4 support shift,alt,ctrl barswitching?
21:50.57nevcairielAntiarc: omen doesnt handle the aggro reset on the rogue mob on IDC when he vanishes!!11
21:51.15nevcairielits the most important thing to fix!
21:51.27nevcairielluxus: in theory, i dont think i added options to configure it yet :D
21:51.44Arrowmasterhttp://wowwebstats.com/hsniv42tqtqmw?a=51#summary
21:51.46Arrowmasterlol
21:51.58luxusso when i press ctrl+1 the bar switch and it press the button i bind to 1
21:52.40nevcairielluxus: i know what you mean, and BT4 supports it, you just cannot turn it on yet
21:52.49luxusbad :(
21:53.04nevcairielheh Arrowmaster, lots of small fire elemental GUIDs
21:53.04luxusok then i have to wait :D
21:53.17Arrowmasternevcairiel: its the illidan dagger
21:53.22nevcairieli know
21:53.52Arrowmasterand it took more damage than it did
21:53.53nevcairielhm our rogue was wearing swords today, apparently
21:53.56nevcairiellol
21:54.22Arrowmasteri think my friend was shadowstep lastnight
21:54.34Arrowmasterhe tends to do that at times
21:55.08luxuswtf on mother shaz a enh. shami is place1? :D
21:55.21nevcairielSaroz: i dunno what you did, but i got taint errors today
21:55.24Arrowmasterlol
21:56.01nevcairielSaroz: http://ace.pastey.net/86211
21:56.10balstor~last cncfanatics
21:56.24balstor~seen cncfanatics
21:56.32purlcncfanatics <n=Diego@126.83-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 5h 7m 5s ago, saying: 'nope, what is that ? :o'.
21:56.32nevcairielits ~lart not ~last
21:56.32Arrowmasterlol he got 1st on teron as shadowstep
21:56.32balstor~lart cncfanatics
21:56.32purlslaps a compatible dib on cncfanatics's head
21:56.43Olison:D
21:57.11balstoranyone know where grayhoof nags out?
21:57.20balstoranyone know where grayhoof hangs out?
21:57.22nevcairieli dunno
21:57.26nevcairielonly forums, i suppose
21:57.53CIA-4003rabbit * r70793 10oRA2/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
21:57.53CIA-40oRA2: Drycode commit. Someone please test it.
21:57.53CIA-40<PROTECTED>
21:57.53CIA-40<PROTECTED>
21:57.53CIA-40<PROTECTED>
21:57.57balstorbug in sct that has bugged me for a year, need to fix it
21:57.58CIA-40<PROTECTED>
21:58.00ulicI think I've seen him/her in here before, but not lately.
21:58.33Arrowmastergrayhoof has never been in here afaik
21:58.37vhaarrindeed he has no
21:58.38vhaarrnot*
21:58.44nevcairiel~seen grayhoof
21:58.45purli haven't seen 'grayhoof', nevcairiel
21:58.54ulicoh, guess it's some other gray or hoof maybe :)
21:58.58luxusi don't know why but sct feels much more spamy then msbt
21:59.02Arrowmastertornhoof probably
21:59.10nevcairielthats the design idea of MSBT
21:59.11nevcairielless spam
21:59.22nevcairieldue to throttling and message merging
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22:00.31luxusi like  the on nameplate thing from sct
22:00.32AckisWorkWoah Rabbit dry-coded too! zomg
22:00.37balstorokay the bug is hit alt-z create some events hit alt-z and all the events scroll by, so sct isn't hiding correctly
22:00.44vhaarrAckisWork: I don't have WoW at the moment ><
22:00.52AckisWorkjust teasing you
22:01.03AckisWorkI get teased for my dry-coding while I"m at work
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22:01.48hydrogenI didn't just read that as dry humping..
22:01.49hydrogenI swear!
22:01.56Olison!
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22:04.50durcynvhaarr: Leader/Invite.lua:395: attempt to index global 'addon' (nil)
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22:05.47durcynlooks like it should be mod: in the function declaration
22:05.53NeoTronzomg fail
22:07.03CIA-4003archarodim * r70794 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua):
22:07.03CIA-40Decursive:
22:07.03CIA-40- (code cleanup) Change spell scanning algorithm to use GetSpellInfo() instead of scanning all available spells.
22:07.03CIA-40Note: Make sure all your spells are properly detected before going in raid after updating to this revision.
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22:11.35vhaarrdurcyn: care to fix it?
22:12.13durcynsure, i don't like to commit without permission
22:12.22vhaarrI don't have wow here, so feel free to fix any fuckups
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22:13.34CIA-4003durcyn * r70795 10oRA2/Leader/Invite.lua: oRA2: bugfix
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22:14.00durcynloads fine other than that, i'll see if i can get the invite/promote tested
22:14.00nevcairielbugfix is such a meaningful commit message
22:14.14durcynat least it wasn't "."
22:14.28vhaarractually it's not a bug fix, it's a syntax fix :P
22:14.33vhaarror hm
22:14.36nevcairiela . would've gotten you a ~lart
22:14.39vhaarrnevermind
22:14.42nevcairielits a logic fix, more or less :P
22:14.45vhaarrright
22:14.46laggersomeone should make a mod called PlayerResil which is like MobHealth
22:15.15Arrowmasterto complex
22:15.19vhaarrdurcyn: please open the key bindings panel and make sure the oRA2 key bindings look sane
22:15.30vhaarrdurcyn: then test the "Set Next" and "Clear Last" bindings, please
22:15.34vhaarrArrowmaster: not really
22:15.35nevcairielthat would require to know all dmg modifiers to grasp your full dmg range
22:15.41nevcairielthen take armor in account
22:15.42hydrogenwhich writes the name to a settings file that is monitored by a third party program that reads the name and checks the stat on armory, and then writes the value back ot the config where the addon subsequently reads it?
22:15.43vhaarrArrowmaster: for a DoT class, it would be pretty simple to calculate
22:15.48durcynvhaarr: they're listed correct, sec and i'll find my other account to test
22:15.49laggerwell couldnt u make one
22:15.50laggerjust for dots
22:16.03nevcairielstill needs dmg-range calculations
22:16.06nevcairielwith +dmg and all
22:16.14nevcairielcoefficients etc
22:16.14NeoTrondoes the combat log indicate the amount that was resisted/reduced by resilience
22:16.15NeoTron?
22:16.18nevcairielno
22:16.19vhaarryeah but doesn't DrDamage or something have a library for that?
22:16.27Arrowmasterno
22:16.29hydrogenI already gave you the ideal method.
22:16.30Arrowmasternot a library
22:16.30nevcairieli think its just in core DrDamage
22:16.33hydrogenstop getting complicated!
22:16.33vhaarrah
22:16.55durcynNPC health also doesn't change every x seconds like player resilience easily could with gear swaps, so it'd be mental masturbation to start with
22:16.56nevcairielhydrogen: i dont log out in pvp gear :)
22:17.01nevcairielso armory doesnt see it
22:17.23vhaarrnevcairiel: so it has been confirmed that armory updates with the equipment you had on logout?
22:17.37NeoTronwhen updates work sure
22:17.38vhaarrI remember I added "Logout" to ClosetGnome_Switcher right after the armory beta opening
22:17.45nevcairielyes
22:17.46vhaarrto equip a specific set on logout
22:17.49nevcairielnot everytime
22:17.51nevcairielbut mostly .P
22:17.57vhaarr^^
22:18.16CIA-4003ackis * r70796 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
22:18.16CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
22:18.16CIA-40- More hunter beast skills conversions
22:18.16CIA-40- Removed unneeded localizations
22:18.16CIA-40- All dry-coded
22:18.28durcynvhaarr: hm, set next works, clear last doesn't
22:18.28nevcairielsometimes update seems to be slow
22:18.31nevcairielor broken
22:18.35nevcairielbut most of the time it works
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22:19.04smoke_anyone else having a problem with proximo showing random people from previous arena games in the frame?
22:19.13vhaarrdurcyn: open Leader/MainTank.lua and change |for i = 10, 1 do| to |for i = 10, 1, -1 do|
22:19.21vhaarrdurcyn: in :ClearLastMainTank
22:19.59NeoTronvhaarr: is there a way an addon can hook into oRA2 to get notification when the tank list changes?
22:20.13vhaarrNeoTron: oRA_MainTankUpdate event should be fired
22:20.36NeoTronso would it be possible to get that from an ace3 addon?
22:20.36durcynvhaarr: bingo
22:20.56nevcairielNeoTron: look at Omen, it does that
22:21.12vhaarrdurcyn: goodie
22:21.14nevcairielHealer mode
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22:22.00vhaarrNeoTron: since you can embed AceEvent-2.0 into anything, it should be easy
22:22.08vhaarrjust put it in a table, that's probably what omen does
22:22.34AntiarcIt is indeed
22:22.40vhaarrlocal ae = {}; AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):embed(ae); ae:RegisterEvent("oRA_MainTankUpdate", function() --[[ update tanks ]] end)
22:23.15CIA-4003funkydude * r70797 10BigWigs_EredarThreat/BigWigs_EredarThreat.lua: BigWigs_EredarThreat: works again
22:23.44vhaarrNeoTron: or even AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):RegisterEvent("oRA_MainTankUpdate", function() ... end)
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22:24.08JoshBorkevhaarr: yea, i was about to say that
22:25.04fsfodAntiarc: are you gonna add some direct way to set a bars colour for LibBar
22:25.14Antiarcyes, I will be
22:25.20vhaarrdurcyn: commit the Leader/MainTank change please
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22:26.34vhaarrif you tested it, but I'm guessing your "bingo" remark resulted from a successful test
22:26.50durcynyeah, direct method call and keybind both work
22:26.56vhaarrneat
22:27.13durcynonce svn wakes up..
22:27.17CIA-4003durcyn * r70798 10oRA2/Leader/MainTank.lua: oRA2 Leader/Invite: make ClearLastMainTank work, per rabbit
22:27.30vhaarrthose two bindings are infinitely more useful than the "Set MT#" and "Remove MT#" bindings
22:27.35luxusahh now i remember why i test sct again... i seen the swordprocc notification 2 times
22:27.48durcynvhaarr: yes, i might actually use keybinds for MTs now
22:27.54vhaarrindeed, same here
22:27.56luxusanyone know why msbt show it 2 times?
22:28.11durcynluxus: why, noe for each sword of course
22:28.15durcynone*
22:28.19durcyn=P
22:28.27durcynseriously though, combat log it, see how many events actually fire
22:28.46luxusi think the same think happens with WF too
22:32.21NeoTronvhaarr: thanks. I will make it an optional feature
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22:36.55SunTsuckknight: Wow, Cart3 is awesome! Great work
22:37.04ckknightglad you like it
22:37.11ckknightany bugs or feature requests are appreciated on jira
22:37.53SunTsuckknight: Sure, as soon as I find anything I let you know
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22:37.55hydrogenIt'd be really cool if it (or wow...) could support local shortcuts
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22:38.04SunTsuckknight: Sure, as soon as I find anything I let you know
22:38.06hydrogenso that when I hit "z" and the map was open it would zoom for me
22:38.13hydrogenrather than having to click the button
22:38.19hydrogenprobably not possible though, right?
22:38.28JoshBorkeit is possible
22:38.44ckknight_(knocked out my cord)
22:38.46ckknight_SunTsu: slavish praise is fine here in IRC, though
22:38.48ckknight_hydrogen: no, and I'm planning on making the buttons have icons instead of single characters.
22:39.14JoshBorkeSetOverridBinding or something?
22:39.24SunTsuckknight_: Nope, sorry, won't do, I prefer spreading the word ;)
22:39.31ckknight_hehe
22:39.46hydrogenalso.. and I'm sure this might be on your list... would be an option to make the map adjust to follow the character
22:39.49JoshBorkeckknight_: you suer it's not possible?
22:39.57ckknight_it's not that it's not possible
22:39.59ckknight_it's possible
22:40.17JoshBorkeok, as logn as i'm not smoking crack
22:40.35JoshBorkenot gonna happen is different from not possible :-)
22:40.38vhaarrI don't know why, but this tickles my smiling bone: "This implementation has been contributed by Volkswagen."
22:40.39ckknight_I don't want to do it, cause I want the user to be able to have the map open and quest
22:40.40vhaarrhttp://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_25#head-0957d99bd917f82924f1eab1f3f17945e1c4dc90
22:40.58JoshBorkevhaarr: i saw that too
22:40.58hydrogenso what we _really_ need is focus-follows-mouse :)
22:41.01JoshBorkevhaarr: that it was cute
22:41.05vhaarrhehe
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22:42.31ckknight_hydrogen: no, that doesn't work, cause you'd have to somehow reset the mouse to be in the middle of the map, which is impossible afaik
22:42.50hydrogenwell, focus-follows-mouse was more for the keybinding
22:42.55hydrogennot the map-follows-character
22:42.56ckknight_cause otherwise you'd have a constant movement of the distance between the center of the map and the cursor
22:43.00hydrogentoo many ideas at once :)
22:43.04ckknight_oh, that
22:43.06ckknight_I dunno about that
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22:43.13ckknight_I don't like modal systems
22:43.30hydrogenI guess I wouldn't use it all that much anyways, especially if I had map-follows-character :)
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22:43.39ckknight_hydrogen: you can do that now
22:43.39hydrogenIt's just really easy for me to wander off the section of the map i'm zoomed too
22:43.55ckknight_press P
22:43.58ckknight_the P button
22:44.18hydrogenah, cool :)
22:45.06ckknightit's a toggle
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22:46.56DARKGuyAfternoon' ^^
22:47.28Hobby~cartographer3
22:47.29purlhmm... cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
22:47.42DARKGuyholy crap
22:49.05CIA-4003arrowmaster * r70799 10Chatter/Modules/UrlCopy.lua: Chatter: UrlCopy: rewrite to use patterns that shouldn't pickup any false positives
22:49.09Arrowmasteri just increased Chatters memory usage =(
22:49.16durcynjerk!
22:49.57DARKGuyshoots an arrow at Arr
22:49.59DARKGuy...
22:50.00DARKGuyI fail.
22:50.30DARKGuyhey btw Arrowmaster, I was using chatter this other day and I wondered, is there any chance you can add an opacity addon? to change the frame's opacity ?
22:50.40Arrowmasterits not my addon
22:51.02DARKGuyOh crap that's right
22:51.04DARKGuyit's Antiarc
22:51.07DARKGuydouble fails
22:51.15CIA-4003durcyn * r70800 10Omniscience/core.lua: Omniscience: disable interrupt/dispel/death crap for now, since it's broken as hell
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22:52.09ckknightDARKGuy: holy crap?
22:52.23DARKGuyckknight, yes, why =!
22:52.36ckknightwhy what?
22:52.44DARKGuyno idea, you're asking o,o
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22:53.01ckknightum... ur mom
22:53.08DARKGuylol
22:53.15Wasserstoffit all makes sense to me now!
22:53.23DARKGuythe holy crap?
22:55.10Taskyquestion
22:55.33Taskyhas the latest revision of omen/thread-2.0 fixed the "INVALID MEMOIZATION" error?
22:55.39Taskythreat *
22:56.40CIA-4003durcyn * r70801 10Omniscience/core.lua: Omniscience: fix typo in anchor toggle function
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23:03.49SunTsuToo bad MobMap doesn't work with Cart3 ;)
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23:05.33SunTsuEven worse, the author of mobmap doesn't respond to my mails when sending him a patch to make mobmap work with the current Cartographer
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23:10.36CIA-4003ackis * r70802 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-BeastTrain.lua:
23:10.36CIA-40AckisRecipeList:
23:10.36CIA-40- Local fix
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23:24.24ckknightSunTsu: it doesn't?
23:24.31ckknightSunTsu: what's preventing it?
23:25.19CIA-4003grayhoof * r70804 10sct_options/ (locals/localization.kr.lua options.lua):
23:25.19CIA-40sct_options:
23:25.19CIA-40- Fix for new events that aren't saved
23:25.19CIA-40- KR update
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23:28.29CIA-4003grayhoof * r70805 10sctd_options/locals/localization.kr.lua:
23:28.29CIA-40sctd_options:
23:28.29CIA-40- KR update
23:30.25Dranor~seen elsia
23:30.26purlelsia <i=elsiarow@p57A25358.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 12m 59s ago, saying: 'aww'.
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23:34.59Mechiza1So, I've installed Cryolysis2 with externals, and I still have problems with it. Any ideas? I have version 70787.
23:35.32SunTsuckknight: With the current Cartographer version it looks like a frame parenting problem or such. Maybe I'll look into it what it is now when I have time
23:35.54SunTsuFo now it's bed time
23:36.14SunTsug'night everybody - or whatever time it is for you ;)
23:39.25charonTasky: can you http://ace.pastey.net/ a bugsack trace?
23:43.47CIA-4003funkydude * r70806 10Quartz/ (12 files in 10 dirs): Quartz: drycoded LSM3 update
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23:48.41CIA-4003funkydude * r70807 10Violation/ (Violation.lua Violation.toc embeds.xml libs/): Violation: drycoded LSM3 update
23:48.42CIA-4003seppyk * r70808 10HeadCount/ (. HeadCount.lua embeds.xml):
23:48.42CIA-40HeadCount:
23:48.42CIA-40- Added Dewdrop-2.0 lib as dependency.
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23:49.23CIA-4003funkydude * r70809 10Quartz/libs/: Quartz: embeds
23:52.30CIA-4003archarodim * r70810 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_lists.lua Decursive.lua):
23:52.30CIA-40Decursive:
23:52.30CIA-40- Fix an initialization problem: AceAddon is not passing the "first" argument equal to true to OnEnable() when the mod is activated manually for the first time.
23:52.30CIA-40- It's no longer possible to show various Decursive windows when the mod is in standby, this will probably fix the nil errors with the priority list window some users were getting.
23:53.02XelopherisSoR > SoB for threat if you've got any decent amount of spell damage, right?
23:53.40fsfodis there a better way to get a spells cooldown, that is not on cd other than GameTooltip:SetSpell and deformating the cooldown line
23:56.30Orionshock~wowapi GetItemCooldown
23:56.47dre^fsfod: yeah I always thought that was rediculous too
23:56.55TaskyHold on, I'll load up WoW now. I must warn you---BugSack records about 5,000 errors from Omen each session.
23:56.55Orionshockfsfod:  www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemCooldown
23:57.23Orionshockgranted that dosn't help too much :\
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23:57.34syerenXelopheris, that's why Alliance Prot paladins are superior to Horde Prot Paladins :p
23:57.43syerenBut Horde Ret Paladins are superior to Alliance Prot Paladins :p
23:57.48syeren*Ret Paladins
23:57.57charonTasky: seriously? ... i get none at all
23:59.13SumpinFishyAny workarounds or specific things to avoid raid frames lag in 25 mans?
23:59.15Xelopherissyeren: sor is universal, sov is alliance one
23:59.32JaxonSo when I put my WoW into windows and drag it on the other monitor, the interface automatically gets hidden.  What the hell is doing that.
23:59.54syerenOh, I thought you was comparing Blood and Vengeance :p
23:59.57dre^SumpinFishy: try disabling status highlighting in Bongos2 if you use it. not sure if htey fixed that yet.
23:59.59syerenSorry!

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