| 00:03.44 | Dashkal | I wonder if a team or two will try putting their druid in feral gear anyway. The feral set does have some +heals... |
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| 00:04.49 | Chaud | no? |
| 00:05.15 | rubik | i don't do resto so all i've got is the feral pvp gear |
| 00:05.22 | Chaud | http://wowhead.com/?itemset=721 |
| 00:05.26 | rubik | kind of a huge waste but oh well |
| 00:05.27 | Chaud | no + helaing on it |
| 00:05.30 | Chaud | *healing |
| 00:05.51 | rubik | of course, i use quite a bit of the pvp gear to tank in, but that's another story |
| 00:06.26 | Chaud | why do I have to see "[2] Willymakit: Seven Deuce Off - newly formed PVP guild that is recruting all seasoned geared players...PST for [invite]" in trade =\ |
| 00:06.36 | Chaud | more importantly, why would you make yet another PvP guild |
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| 00:11.00 | Dashkal | Meh, I must have been thinking of a different set... |
| 00:11.09 | Nandini | only the s1 and s2 feral sets have a token amount of +heal on them |
| 00:11.22 | Nandini | they removed it in s3 after a raft of complaints |
| 00:11.28 | Dashkal | ahh, it's the S1 that had the +heals |
| 00:11.37 | Dashkal | that splains my confusion |
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| 00:12.14 | Dashkal | eh, 2v2 cannot be balanced without erasing most of the classes from the game |
| 00:12.30 | Chaud | like mages and hunters |
| 00:12.38 | Dashkal | 9 (soon 10) classes each with their own style cannot be balanced in 2v2 |
| 00:12.48 | ben___ | Dashkal: Let's start with hunters |
| 00:12.57 | Dashkal | Oh hell no, I like my hunter alt :p |
| 00:13.13 | Dashkal | Take locks first :p |
| 00:13.23 | ben___ | Insider 26: Wut des Sonnenbrunnens thanks blizzard :| |
| 00:13.42 | Dashkal | but *shrug* if I want closed pvp I play half-life |
| 00:13.58 | Dashkal | class based anything is the wrong way to go for pure skill small scale pvp |
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| 00:15.47 | Nandini | true, if they wanted to equalize abilities and only measure skill, they could make both teams play a game of simon until one loses :) |
| 00:15.49 | NeoTron | Survival hunter on Brutallus => worth it 5 melee + 2 tanks + 2 hunters? |
| 00:15.57 | Dashkal | pretty much :p |
| 00:16.19 | Dashkal | Warcraft PvP is better suited for battlegrounds. Where teamplay > individual skills and abilities |
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| 00:16.52 | Chaud | huntards > all. |
| 00:16.57 | WobWork | I vote we move arenas to tournament realms |
| 00:16.57 | Chaud | in BGs anyway |
| 00:16.59 | Nandini | i agree, but arenas have proven to be quite a popular diversion :) |
| 00:17.10 | Chaud | If they moved arenas I know I wouldn't play anymore |
| 00:17.29 | WobWork | That way they can make all the changes they want to arena class balance and have it only affect those realms |
| 00:17.29 | Ellipsis | I vote they move all pvp to pvp servers and tournament realms |
| 00:17.32 | Dashkal | I'd be quite happy if arenas were spun off into their own game |
| 00:17.37 | Ellipsis | and let us carebears have our fun in peace |
| 00:17.46 | Chaud | Move instances to PvE realms TBH |
| 00:17.52 | Chaud | where they are instance only realms |
| 00:17.53 | Nandini | raids too |
| 00:17.57 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: eh, too far. Gimme my BGs. Just take arenas |
| 00:17.57 | Chaud | anything PvE |
| 00:17.59 | Cryect | heh PvP in instances! |
| 00:17.59 | Chaud | no mobs there |
| 00:18.05 | WobWork | I don't care about arena really, but when they start affecting the way my class works then I get tetchy |
| 00:18.06 | Chaud | just instance portals |
| 00:18.28 | Dashkal | Just make the tourney realms permanent... |
| 00:18.33 | Chaud | arenas are the best thing that happened to wow IMO |
| 00:18.39 | Dashkal | Doing that alone would remove quite a few twits from the live servers |
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| 00:18.42 | Nandini | sightseeing tours! "and if you look to your left, you'll see where Brutallus made his famous last stand 83 times against the famous guild..." |
| 00:18.47 | Chaud | now I have a reason to keep handing them $15/month |
| 00:18.51 | Cryect | WobWork, yarr GF was all pissed off at the druid resto changes for PvE in 2.4 |
| 00:19.08 | Chaud | all those end lifebloom tick nerfs that matter next to none? |
| 00:19.11 | Dashkal | Chaud: And you'd be better served by a spinoff game. Wow cannot be balanced for arenas. |
| 00:19.26 | Cryect | Chaud, they reduce the tick coefficients |
| 00:19.31 | Nandini | sure it can, it just screws up the other 90% of the game |
| 00:19.34 | WobWork | Chaud: And what PvE reason is there for that change? |
| 00:19.36 | Chaud | and then reverted that change |
| 00:19.39 | Dashkal | Remove azeroth and outland entirely. Just an endless arena queue :p |
| 00:19.52 | Cryect | did they? heh I don't really play I just heard bitching about it :-p |
| 00:19.58 | Chaud | WobWork the game isn't balanced around only PvE, skills don't need to have a PvE reason to be changed |
| 00:19.59 | Nandini | hmm log in directly to an arena queue, interesting |
| 00:20.07 | Cryect | If you only play arena I question why you play wow though |
| 00:20.08 | WobWork | I mean, they cut out all sorts of PvE skills in Arena to prevent griefing |
| 00:20.19 | Chaud | I do arenas and once in a while go to a raid when I have time |
| 00:20.34 | Dashkal | If it's all arena for you, you'd be better served in a different style of game. Tourney mode FPS for example |
| 00:20.41 | Chaud | last raid I went to as far as 25 man was SSC to replace an awful mage |
| 00:20.48 | WobWork | why can't they do the opposite for Arenas and such? |
| 00:20.48 | WobWork | Just have certain skills active in Arena/PvP only |
| 00:20.48 | WobWork | Not change things across the board |
| 00:20.48 | WobWork | only to balance Arenas |
| 00:21.05 | Dashkal | WobWork: Because that would be splintering off the games |
| 00:21.09 | Chaud | Resto druids were not hurt in 2.4 at all |
| 00:21.17 | Chaud | spirit change is pretty nice. |
| 00:21.18 | Dashkal | Trying to do that and keeping it all in the same client would be a nightmare |
| 00:21.40 | WobWork | Dashkal: Problem being? |
| 00:21.42 | Dashkal | I'd love to see a splinter, but they'd royally fuck up trying to split and stay in one client |
| 00:21.49 | JoshBorke | they could do that or they could nerf pve and change the bosses a little |
| 00:21.55 | Chaud | Thankfully devs are moving more towards esports and such =) |
| 00:22.16 | Dashkal | Eh, it's a fad. The new gen MMOs will siphon off the pvp only crowd and we'll be left in peace :p |
| 00:22.17 | Chaud | and wotlk + PvP zone, guild v guild BGs will be fun |
| 00:22.29 | FtH|Daemona | hrm anyone know why by simply opening and closing my arkinventory window my memory usage climbs by roughly 350kb? |
| 00:22.39 | Cryect | spirit changed meaned about jack shit for Resto Druids in PvE since they were never really low mana anyways constantly rolling lifeblooms |
| 00:22.39 | Chaud | warhammer is fail, AoC I haven't seen enough about, aion is far away |
| 00:23.01 | Dashkal | AoC has one hell of a nice looking pvp system |
| 00:23.08 | Dashkal | Their pve looks like utter fail |
| 00:23.09 | WobWork | FtH|Daemona: processing power? |
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| 00:23.16 | Chaud | I have been reading betaleaks as far as AoC goes |
| 00:23.24 | Chaud | looks like it will release in a very beta like state |
| 00:23.28 | WobWork | FtH|Daemona: It has to do all the sorting and stuff when you open the frame |
| 00:23.31 | Estil | I would |
| 00:23.33 | Chaud | nothing I want to play |
| 00:23.34 | Estil | never touch aion |
| 00:23.36 | kenlyric | anyone have firefox completely bugger out on them when 2.0.0.14 installed? |
| 00:23.37 | Estil | ncsoft is utter fail |
| 00:23.44 | Cryect | yeah AoC is questionable if it will be ready |
| 00:23.45 | Chaud | why? |
| 00:23.48 | FtH|Daemona | UGH? but why repeat it every time when nothing changed? *confused* |
| 00:23.50 | Dashkal | When I realized just how fail their pve was I stopped paying any attention |
| 00:23.55 | Estil | have you seen how bad Lineage I and II was D: |
| 00:24.02 | Estil | they look pretty, but gameplay wise, oh man |
| 00:24.05 | Chaud | they did guildwars? |
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| 00:24.10 | Estil | nah |
| 00:24.12 | Cryect | Hey if you were korean maybe you would like it? |
| 00:24.13 | Estil | they only published guild wars |
| 00:24.16 | Estil | but they didn't develop it |
| 00:24.16 | Chaud | oh |
| 00:24.20 | FtH|Daemona | garbage collection will free up the memory WobWork but why allocate it when not needed? |
| 00:24.28 | Estil | real guys behind guild wars is former blizz employees who made ArenaNet |
| 00:24.47 | Chaud | in WoW we have it pretty decent compared to other games really |
| 00:24.52 | Chaud | most people fail to see that =\ |
| 00:24.54 | Estil | Cryect: probably, Koreans are suckers for long mindless grinding |
| 00:25.10 | Estil | especially anything NCSoft puts out |
| 00:25.19 | Dashkal | Why do you say warhammer is fail? (serious question, I know nothing about it). I know it's taking a couple guildies on launch |
| 00:25.46 | Chaud | the fighting as far as I have seen looks teribad |
| 00:25.52 | Estil | nobody in South Korea has yet reached maximum level on Lineage I |
| 00:25.52 | Chaud | think runescape like almost |
| 00:25.56 | Estil | and that game has been out since like... 1996? |
| 00:25.58 | Chaud | wacking each other with swords |
| 00:26.05 | WobWork | I'm quite liking LotRO |
| 00:26.10 | WobWork | FtH|Daemona: not needed? |
| 00:26.30 | Dashkal | Meh, the early gen MMOs were built around making the level cap impossible to reach |
| 00:26.33 | WobWork | As much for being a change of pace from WoW, than anything else really |
| 00:26.37 | Paene | Anyone have any advice as to how I'd go about implementing a timer...I wanna play a sound when polymorph has X seconds left before breaking |
| 00:26.40 | Dashkal | gee, why did wow destroy them... |
| 00:26.54 | Dashkal | evercrack reminds me of being the mount when I have my carrot out... |
| 00:27.12 | WobWork | cause the concept of 'end game content' didn't really exist to the level that it does here |
| 00:27.13 | FtH|Daemona | WobWork i basically increase the memory usage by ~350kb by simply hitting open/close backpack repeatedly, so i am wondering why it does sorting to display and not taking advantage of the knowledge that since last time the bag was opened nothing changed |
| 00:27.18 | Estil | even leveling in evercrack is lot better than Lineage I / II imo |
| 00:27.32 | Cryect | agrees with Estil |
| 00:27.33 | Zhinjio | WoW did alot of things right. |
| 00:27.41 | FtH|Daemona | its basically biting of 350kb each time i open my backpack without doing anything it didnt do before |
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| 00:27.45 | Zhinjio | with th eexception of AO, it was the first full scale game that did instances. |
| 00:27.53 | Dashkal | engame was brilliant. It gave us casuals an attainable goal, and the game didn't have to stop there |
| 00:27.55 | Zhinjio | good economic picture |
| 00:27.57 | WobWork | FtH|Daemona: He's probably -not- using bag_update to save memory usage when you have an inventory event and your bags are closed, by only updating when the bag is opened |
| 00:28.00 | Zhinjio | end game content. |
| 00:28.01 | Ellipsis | FtH|Daemona: because it's poorly coded |
| 00:28.05 | Cryect | Good Economic Picture? |
| 00:28.07 | WobWork | FtH|Daemona: which is a valid point of view |
| 00:28.07 | Cryect | what? |
| 00:28.10 | Chaud | I know several people that I played with left for that Hellgate trash, and came back a week later |
| 00:28.14 | Chaud | after all the hype is was bad |
| 00:28.14 | Zhinjio | controlled economy. |
| 00:28.18 | Chaud | and fury rofl |
| 00:28.20 | Cryect | the economy in WoW is screwed to hell |
| 00:28.27 | Dashkal | erm? is not |
| 00:28.29 | Chaud | hyped and hyped and flop. |
| 00:28.29 | Cryect | crazy inflation |
| 00:28.31 | Dashkal | pretty damn stable, actually |
| 00:28.35 | Zhinjio | its still better than all first gen games |
| 00:28.40 | Cryect | a good economy is as stable as real world |
| 00:28.43 | Dashkal | what realm are you on? I don't have bad inflation problems |
| 00:28.47 | Chaud | we are having some inflation |
| 00:28.48 | FtH|Daemona | guess i need a ArkInventory alternative :/ damn Antiarc getting me into this addon profiling stuff ... |
| 00:28.52 | Estil | server economy is fine for me |
| 00:28.54 | Estil | on Blackrock Horde |
| 00:29.00 | Chaud | adamantite went from 20g to 30g |
| 00:29.01 | Dashkal | the real world economy is stable because it's directly and actively controlled by larger interests |
| 00:29.07 | Chaud | primal airs from ~18g to 35g |
| 00:29.13 | Ellipsis | FtH|Daemona: use baggins |
| 00:29.14 | Zhinjio | the economy is driven by sound economic principles, despite there always being some things with disparity |
| 00:29.18 | Chaud | green spelldmg gems are 12g |
| 00:29.20 | FtH|Daemona | EnhTooltip is a killer too ... displaying auctioneer infos kills performance ^^ |
| 00:29.22 | Dashkal | oh we're having some too, but the inflation is confined to twink and level 70 stuff -- it matches the new income |
| 00:29.28 | Zhinjio | shrugs. I'm not going to argue economy. |
| 00:29.29 | Chaud | and there is a shortage of mats all around mostly |
| 00:29.37 | Cryect | Dashkal, I'm thinking if you want good econonmy then you want EVE |
| 00:29.41 | Chaud | no one farms anymore at all. |
| 00:29.44 | Dashkal | Goon online? fuck that |
| 00:29.56 | Primer | I thought prices were gonna drop after this patch |
| 00:29.59 | Chaud | I fly by BEM fire eles and it is empty, even elemental plateau is mostly empty |
| 00:30.01 | Cryect | don't have to ever do anything against the goons |
| 00:30.05 | WobWork | FtH|Daemona: well.. really when you consider -what- it's doing, can you blame it? |
| 00:30.08 | Chaud | dailys are easy easy gold |
| 00:30.18 | Dashkal | I technically am a goon... I stay the hell away from spaces they control |
| 00:30.24 | Primer | except now there's no one farming |
| 00:30.27 | FtH|Daemona | naah WobWork guess i am rather pondering... do i need it... |
| 00:30.29 | Cryect | Goons aren't that large :-p |
| 00:30.36 | FtH|Daemona | same as with QuestHelper |
| 00:30.40 | Primer | and with supplies low, and everyone with gold, prices have gone way up |
| 00:30.48 | Chaud | Primer that is fine with me =D |
| 00:30.57 | FtH|Daemona | its a damn nice gadget for planing questing routes for your dailies... but after day 3 you know the optimal route anyway |
| 00:31.00 | Primer | except I recently bought my second epic flyer |
| 00:31.05 | Primer | and am somewhat broke |
| 00:31.06 | Chaud | people are still willing to sell at old prices, and I just relist for 10g profit and such =D |
| 00:31.12 | Dashkal | that and eve's reputation is shot. far too many stories of manipulation and such |
| 00:31.14 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona, Combuctor > * |
| 00:31.18 | WobWork | FtH|Daemona: I don't have it on tooltip, but I 'ask' myself prices with whispers =) |
| 00:31.34 | Chaud | I just have 1 epic flyer and ~12.5k gold =( |
| 00:31.39 | Chaud | and bunch of mats to sell |
| 00:31.41 | Dashkal | but yeah, I've only seen inflation on things for 70s, so not really so much inflated given our current income |
| 00:31.57 | Dashkal | If things handn't inflated with the 25 daily limit it would have been screwed |
| 00:31.57 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona, http://tullamods.googlecode.com/files/Combuctor%20Beta.1.2b.zip |
| 00:32.01 | Primer | I've seen pre-bc stuff selling at very high prices |
| 00:32.02 | Zhinjio | wow also did something very shrewd graphically. they compromised on "realism" for having a very solid graphics mechanic. at the same time most games were (and still are) pushing for hyper-realissm. |
| 00:32.10 | Cryect | well why whould you buy stuff for non 70's? |
| 00:32.12 | Zhinjio | they made mod developers hapy |
| 00:32.12 | Primer | I also recently dropped mining on my main for enchanting |
| 00:32.13 | Zhinjio | etc |
| 00:32.13 | Chaud | realism looks bad sometimes |
| 00:32.14 | Zhinjio | anyway |
| 00:32.19 | Primer | and leveling it's been a BITCH |
| 00:32.23 | Dashkal | mithril is expensive as hell... nobody wants to farm it |
| 00:32.26 | Dashkal | I make a killing :D |
| 00:32.33 | Paene | ~api GetSpellInfo |
| 00:32.34 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo |
| 00:32.34 | Cryect | hehe |
| 00:32.40 | Arrowmaster` | what do you mean made mod developers happy |
| 00:32.43 | WobWork | Zhinjio: I agree |
| 00:32.43 | WobWork | Zhinjio: LOTRO is -very- pretty |
| 00:32.43 | WobWork | water effects especially |
| 00:32.45 | Cryect | Yeah daily's have encouraged peopel to not farm |
| 00:32.53 | Arrowmaster` | mod developers didnt exist for mmos before wow |
| 00:32.57 | Zhinjio | Arrowmaster`: we're all in here chatting about it. |
| 00:33.07 | Cryect | Arrowmaster, you didn't play Asheron's Call |
| 00:33.11 | Zhinjio | thats not true. AC was reverse engineered |
| 00:33.17 | Dashkal | They did something amazingly smart with their UI: They made it newbie-friendly and let us power users do whatever |
| 00:33.20 | Arrowmaster` | no... you could mod that? |
| 00:33.24 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 00:33.25 | Cryect | There was mods for AC before beta was over |
| 00:33.27 | Ellipsis | AC had a lot of modding ability |
| 00:33.31 | Zhinjio | Decal, et al |
| 00:33.49 | Tuller | I played asherons' call! wheeee |
| 00:33.52 | Zhinjio | I modded in that community back then as well |
| 00:33.53 | Cryect | heh and pea whatever that let you find out the exact combo for your spells :-p |
| 00:33.55 | Tuller | decal was definitely around at the end of it |
| 00:33.56 | Ellipsis | a lot of stuff that would cross Blizz's "botting" line |
| 00:33.57 | Zhinjio | splitpea |
| 00:33.59 | Tuller | well end of it for me |
| 00:34.04 | Dashkal | Every time I see a purist "I don't use mods and shouldn't have to" rant I laugh. The damn thing was written for levels 1-20, not for level 70 |
| 00:34.04 | WobWork | Zhinjio: But I have issues with rubber banding |
| 00:34.04 | WobWork | which are -really- irritating |
| 00:34.04 | WobWork | The winning thing I think for WoW is purely the Addons |
| 00:34.11 | Cryect | decal was around before the beta was over Tuller |
| 00:34.12 | Tuller | split pea was more or less a "lets discover the taper formula" thing |
| 00:34.27 | Dashkal | If they had written teh UI for 70s, newbies wouldn't be able to use it |
| 00:34.33 | Zhinjio | Tuller, yeah |
| 00:34.37 | Tuller | the ace2 beta or actually ac? |
| 00:34.40 | Zhinjio | it was unfortunate that it was so easy, honestly |
| 00:34.51 | Arrowmaster` | Tuller: think you could adjust the omnicc options window? it look weird with BetterBlizOptions installed |
| 00:34.54 | Tuller | because I didn't run into decal until the later portion of me playing, really |
| 00:35.05 | Tuller | Arrowmaster`: I don't design for non standard things :P |
| 00:35.14 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` thx for pointing at combuctor, does it support closetgnome gear sets? |
| 00:35.44 | Arrowmaster` | Tuller: i just mean adjust the anchoring so you dont anchor everthing to a different side of the options window |
| 00:35.44 | Dashkal | Tuller: default blizzard options window is epic fail. You designed for shit :( |
| 00:35.55 | JoshBorke | FtH|Daemona: no |
| 00:35.58 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona, Um, it's a bag mod? |
| 00:35.59 | Dashkal | (not attacking your code, but blizzard's) |
| 00:36.24 | Tuller | default blizzard options window is fine, not my problem if people can't design for it :P |
| 00:36.51 | FtH|Daemona | sure, but i have a gazillion of items i use for certain situations assigned to gear sets... i like to see directly if i got my druids heal or tank set in my bags e.g. or the shadow resistance gear for sharaz, get the point? ;) |
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| 00:37.42 | Zhinjio | WobWork: can you define "rubber banding"? |
| 00:37.50 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure what you mean in this ocntext |
| 00:37.54 | Ellipsis | oh don't start this Tuller, even you admitted that having it stuck in the middle of your screen without being able to move or scale it was epic fail |
| 00:38.05 | JoshBorke | FtH|Daemona: not in combuctor |
| 00:38.32 | Tuller | Ellipsis: yeah well, at the same time, there's only one set of frames I know of in the blizzard interface that are movable (raid frames) |
| 00:38.45 | JoshBorke | FtH|Daemona: i'm sure tuller would accept a patch if it integrated well |
| 00:38.55 | Ellipsis | Tuller: well gee, why even make your addon frames movable then? |
| 00:38.56 | Chaud | @warhammer earlier http://www.gameriot.com/blogs/GameRiot-The-Blog/Warhammer-Online-AoR-MMO-Closed-Beta-Video-Footage/ |
| 00:38.56 | TNZe | earlier Warfare Tech on http://www.gameriot.com/blogs/GameRiot-The-Blog/Warhammer-Online-AoR-MMO-Closed-Beta-Video-Footage/ Land: Other 0.2 / Commy 0.2 / Demo 0.2 / Theo 0.2 |
| 00:39.00 | Ellipsis | if Blizz didn't do it it must not be important |
| 00:39.07 | Chaud | wtf |
| 00:39.21 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: because it isn't always needed. tuller almost didn't maek combuctor movable |
| 00:39.26 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: things just 'work' that way |
| 00:39.35 | JoshBorke | for instance |
| 00:39.49 | JoshBorke | what do you do when you log in with a resolution smaller than what you were previously playing at |
| 00:39.50 | Ellipsis | sure, but with his addons I can say, put a bongos bar in the middle of my screen and then be unable to see wtf I'm doing while configuring it |
| 00:39.58 | JoshBorke | half of your windows are now off screen because they were 'movable' |
| 00:39.59 | Ellipsis | because the Blizz default config sucks |
| 00:40.08 | FtH|Daemona | guess its time for a yearly "erase addon folder and start from scratch" ;) but not at 2:30am... cu later ^^ |
| 00:40.20 | Arrowmaster` | Tuller: you have 3 little frames anchored to the topleft topright and bottemleft corners, i think if you anchored the frames so the other 2 were anchored to the one on the topleft it would look better |
| 00:40.37 | Zhinjio | admits that the new bongos config was not intuitive. but... i figured it out. |
| 00:40.40 | Tuller | Ellipsis: you're not meant to use both at the same time :P |
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| 00:40.55 | Ellipsis | so I'm not supposed to configure my addons while using them? |
| 00:40.58 | Ellipsis | how do I do this exactly |
| 00:41.10 | Tuller | I made one assumption with the interface window: |
| 00:41.12 | JoshBorke | bongos bars are movable |
| 00:41.13 | Lukian | is there a way to compact omen so there's no spacing between the title, bars window and options bar thingy? |
| 00:41.21 | Loonacy | I'm getting an error with Threat: "threat-2.0.lua:137:bad argument #4 to 'format' (number expected, got no value)" |
| 00:41.22 | WobWork | Zhinjio: Basically the character will graphically 'hitch' and get pulled back a few steps |
| 00:41.32 | WobWork | Zhinjio: Glitch in the matrix style |
| 00:41.32 | Ellipsis | if I go into the interface options and unlock my buttons, then try to drag a spell onto a bar that's UNDER THE OPTIONS WINDOW, I'm screwed. |
| 00:41.33 | Tuller | someone's not going to put a bar in the middle of the screen and try to mess with coloring options at the same time |
| 00:41.34 | Loonacy | Could that be caused by someone with an older version? |
| 00:41.52 | Ellipsis | Tuller: and that's a bad assumption imo |
| 00:42.08 | Ellipsis | it forces people to move their bars, configure them, then move them back whenever they want to change a tiny setting |
| 00:42.33 | Ellipsis | or constantly open/close the config window |
| 00:42.36 | Dashkal | ^^^^^^ |
| 00:42.39 | Arrowmaster` | or they can use BetterBlizzOptions and move the options window |
| 00:42.53 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: but he didn't design for that which is the whole complaint, right? |
| 00:42.55 | JJSheets | BetterBlizzOptions is awesome. |
| 00:43.05 | kenlyric | but you can't click on anything when the blizz options window is open |
| 00:43.05 | Arrowmaster` | yes |
| 00:43.19 | Arrowmaster` | its not that its not usable, it just looks a 'little' weird |
| 00:43.20 | kenlyric | at least not the chat frame and buttons |
| 00:43.21 | Ellipsis | my point is that designing for defaults is bad in this case |
| 00:43.33 | Ellipsis | you have to design for what people actually want to do |
| 00:43.39 | Ellipsis | like see what they're configuring |
| 00:43.40 | Tuller | and I'm assuming, in this case |
| 00:43.47 | Tuller | that someone's not going to have a bar that's directly under the window |
| 00:44.01 | Ellipsis | [7:41:07 pm] <Ellipsis> Tuller: and that's a bad assumption imo |
| 00:44.03 | Antiar1 | Loonacy: Yes, potentially |
| 00:44.03 | Dashkal | unsafe assumption |
| 00:44.19 | JoshBorke | i think in this instance it is not an unsafe solution |
| 00:44.21 | Cartas | Even if they are, it's hardly that much of an inconvenience. |
| 00:44.24 | JoshBorke | what could tuller's solution have been? |
| 00:44.36 | Tuller | have a window that you need to move to configure things |
| 00:44.36 | Dashkal | A UI with the action buttons near the center is not unherd of. Sticking the actions right below the hud |
| 00:44.39 | JoshBorke | write his own options panel again that is outside the new blizzard one? |
| 00:44.45 | Ellipsis | refuse to use Blizz interface options until it doesn't suck -or- support the addons that make it not suck |
| 00:45.00 | Ellipsis | either way, let people use configuration methods that work for them |
| 00:45.01 | Tuller | but my point here is: the blizzard options menu does _not_ suck |
| 00:45.07 | kenlyric | I just want to know why blizzard is so dumb to lock out your UI when you're in the fucking UI options window |
| 00:45.22 | Tuller | Arrowmaster I went with the anchoring I did to not have to determine spacing |
| 00:45.32 | Dashkal | The blizzard options menu as it is is near useless for addons that do not conform to blizzard's _very_ narrow vision of what it will be used for |
| 00:45.33 | kenlyric | move AND config, that's crazytalk |
| 00:45.34 | Tuller | Arrowmaster I'll look into it, but I'd rather not design for an addon :P |
| 00:45.58 | kenlyric | it's needs its own Niagara |
| 00:46.21 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 00:46.47 | Ellipsis | now that you've got me all worked up about this, I'm going to take this opportunity to yell at my parents. afk |
| 00:46.51 | kenlyric | it's awesome for any addon where shit don't move |
| 00:46.51 | Cartas | I guess now isn't a good time, Ellipsis? :P |
| 00:46.54 | JJSheets | lol |
| 00:46.56 | CIA-39 | 03azymuth * r70271 10AddonLoader/ (AddonLoader-frFR.lua AddonLoader.toc): AddonLoader: Localized in frFR. |
| 00:47.15 | WobWork | hehe |
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| 00:47.55 | WobWork | I can see it now: <Ellipses>: You don't understand me Mom! <insert addon coding rant about blizzard defaults here> |
| 00:48.00 | WobWork | <Ellimom>: wtf? |
| 00:48.07 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 00:48.34 | Tuller | I'm still wondering how its narrow :P |
| 00:48.46 | WobWork | Tuller: well.. if you squint... |
| 00:49.06 | Dashkal | rofl |
| 00:49.48 | Tuller | the scope of it is too narrow, rather :P |
| 00:49.52 | aestil | i'm angry. |
| 00:49.59 | aestil | i got excited when i saw all those parrot commits. |
| 00:50.02 | aestil | ckknight: fail. |
| 00:50.04 | Tuller | "this is a place to put stuff, don't put stuff under it" |
| 00:50.34 | kenlyric | too bad about combat text |
| 00:50.35 | JoshBorke | Tuller: how dare you put stuff on top of other stuff! |
| 00:50.36 | kenlyric | and huds |
| 00:50.45 | ckknight | aestil: don't tell me fail. |
| 00:50.46 | kenlyric | and grid |
| 00:51.01 | Tuller | alternative being, "there's shit under here, what do I need to see that's under it" |
| 00:51.04 | kenlyric | the options window takes up a fairly good chunk of the screen |
| 00:51.05 | Tuller | "gigantic preview'd!" |
| 00:51.05 | aestil | ckknight: unsucess |
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| 00:51.16 | JJSheets | lmao unsuccess |
| 00:51.18 | kenlyric | it's not Rock gigantic, but it's big. |
| 00:51.28 | WobWork | I'm making a note here UNSUCCESS. |
| 00:51.30 | kenlyric | and hey, you can still interact with shit |
| 00:51.58 | kenlyric | can you actually move other UI frames with the blizz addon options window open? |
| 00:52.22 | Tuller | you know, I'm probably limited |
| 00:52.37 | Tuller | due to my resolution |
| 00:52.45 | kenlyric | oh hey, grid moves |
| 00:53.10 | kenlyric | oh, so it is just the chat windows. that's not too awful |
| 00:53.18 | kenlyric | is your resolution too big, or too small? |
| 00:53.23 | Tuller | hrm yeah, 1/3 of the screen at full UI scale |
| 00:54.02 | kenlyric | I'm just still annoyed how hard it is to get to. |
| 00:54.22 | kenlyric | they should have added a button. |
| 00:55.19 | Tuller | escape, interface? :P |
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| 00:55.29 | WobWork | nods at kenlyric and places a fist on top of a flat palm and wiggles his fingers. |
| 00:55.34 | WobWork | The Grid Moves |
| 00:55.48 | kenlyric | escape, interface, addons |
| 00:55.50 | kenlyric | THREE |
| 00:56.45 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r70272 10Pendulum/ (Pendulum.lua PendulumSkin.lua): |
| 00:56.45 | CIA-39 | Pendulum: |
| 00:56.45 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.45 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.34 | Tuller | fair enough :P |
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| 00:59.44 | kenlyric | I find I edit my UI far more often than addon authors wish me to. |
| 01:01.06 | Paene | Is there a limit to how many events you can register using AceEvent? |
| 01:01.21 | Cryect | the amount of ram your computer has |
| 01:01.32 | Cryect | so not not really |
| 01:01.34 | Paene | I'm getting some weird behavior and can't figure out why |
| 01:01.45 | Paene | I'm trying to make a custom event |
| 01:02.01 | Paene | that checks the amount of time it's been since a spell was cast |
| 01:02.11 | Paene | and plays a sound at a certain point in time |
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| 01:02.25 | Paene | but the event isn't even running |
| 01:02.31 | Cryect | Why not use a timer? |
| 01:02.46 | Arrowmaster` | your making an event? |
| 01:03.01 | Paene | yeah using AceEvent's RegisterEvent |
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| 01:03.06 | Paene | er |
| 01:03.09 | Paene | yeah |
| 01:03.11 | Arrowmaster` | with what event name? |
| 01:03.12 | Paene | and ScheduleEvent |
| 01:03.27 | Paene | "CheckPolyWarn" |
| 01:03.36 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceEvent-3.0 |
| 01:03.40 | JoshBorke | Paene: have you read that? |
| 01:03.44 | Paene | I'm using AceEvent-2.0 |
| 01:03.52 | JoshBorke | well why would you do that? :-P |
| 01:04.10 | Arrowmaster` | so your are scheduling it to get run? |
| 01:04.16 | Paene | yeah |
| 01:04.17 | Paene | one sec |
| 01:04.20 | Paene | lemme pastey a bit |
| 01:04.36 | Cryect | I'm confused what you are doing |
| 01:04.48 | Paene | tracking how long a debuff has been applied for |
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| 01:05.01 | Cryect | so why not start a timer when the debuff is applied |
| 01:05.02 | Paene | I wanna play a sound when polymorph has 7 second remaining on it |
| 01:05.20 | Paene | how would I go about doing that? |
| 01:05.35 | Cryect | AceTimer is pretty simple to use I believe |
| 01:05.43 | Cryect | Or whatever its called now |
| 01:05.54 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceTimer-3.0 |
| 01:06.06 | JoshBorke | is a first shot at api documentation for it |
| 01:06.08 | Arrowmaster` | well you need to first register a way to detect the polymorph |
| 01:06.14 | Cryect | Yeah |
| 01:06.40 | Paene | I have that arrowmaster |
| 01:06.48 | Arrowmaster` | how? |
| 01:07.07 | Paene | I'm firing the event when SPELL_AURA_APPLIED is sent to the combat log |
| 01:07.12 | Paene | and the spell is polymorph |
| 01:07.19 | Cryect | Then you using :ScheduleEvent(function, delay)? |
| 01:07.23 | Paene | yeah |
| 01:07.42 | Cryect | its a really bad name for that fucntion really should have been scheduletimer but oh wheel |
| 01:07.44 | Cryect | well* |
| 01:07.46 | Cryect | >_> |
| 01:08.13 | Paene | http://ace.pastey.net/85938 |
| 01:08.16 | Paene | that's what I have |
| 01:08.41 | JoshBorke | Cryect: see AceEvent-3.0 code and quit your bitching |
| 01:08.48 | Cryect | why are you using a delay of 0 |
| 01:08.56 | Paene | cuz I'm stupid |
| 01:08.58 | Paene | lol |
| 01:09.01 | Cryect | JoshBorke, yeah i know they renamed it scheduletimer for aceTimer-3 |
| 01:09.06 | Paene | I was messing around with it |
| 01:09.09 | Paene | because it wasn't working |
| 01:09.18 | Cryect | just schedule your timer for the time you want |
| 01:09.23 | Paene | it's weird though, if I put RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED") at the bottom of the list of RegisterEvent calls |
| 01:09.23 | Cryect | don't keep having it reschedule itself |
| 01:09.43 | Cryect | JoshBorke, besides you know I will always bitch about something ^_^ |
| 01:09.58 | JoshBorke | Cryect: i know, a man after my own heart :-D |
| 01:10.02 | Paene | Cryect: it needs to check every second to see how much time is left |
| 01:10.08 | Cryect | Why? |
| 01:10.10 | Paene | how else would I do that without rescheduling? |
| 01:10.13 | kenlyric | ooh! |
| 01:10.19 | Cryect | Why does it need to check every second? |
| 01:10.20 | kenlyric | check every second and sync with every other player in the raid! |
| 01:10.25 | kenlyric | make them all check too! |
| 01:10.26 | Cryect | haha |
| 01:10.30 | JoshBorke | *sigh* |
| 01:10.45 | Paene | because it needs to warn them at the time they set |
| 01:10.46 | Cryect | think about what that remaining gives you ;) |
| 01:11.07 | Paene | right |
| 01:11.12 | Paene | I'm confused |
| 01:11.12 | Paene | lol |
| 01:11.27 | JoshBorke | Paene: seriously? wtf |
| 01:11.38 | Paene | I'm looking to check the amount of time left on the polymorph debuff |
| 01:11.47 | Paene | at say...7 second life |
| 01:11.52 | Paene | it needs to play a sound |
| 01:11.55 | Cryect | uh yes so why don't you start your timer to go off at 7 seconds? |
| 01:12.06 | Cryect | instead of checking every 1 second? |
| 01:12.10 | JoshBorke | Paene: why don't you just set your timer to go off in (X total time) - 7? |
| 01:12.21 | Paene | wow |
| 01:12.23 | Arrowmaster` | how are you getting debuff duration from spellid? |
| 01:12.25 | Paene | I feel dumb |
| 01:12.30 | Paene | lol |
| 01:12.35 | JoshBorke | like, whoa? |
| 01:12.43 | Paene | yeah |
| 01:12.44 | Paene | pretty much |
| 01:12.52 | Cryect | whats the point of local name = GetSpellInfo(Cryolysis2.Private.PolyIdUsed) |
| 01:12.56 | Cryect | you never use name |
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| 01:13.15 | Cryect | also |
| 01:13.17 | Cryect | spellID |
| 01:13.26 | JoshBorke | Cryect: seriously? wtf does it matter? |
| 01:13.37 | Cryect | uh that global doesn't have what you think when you do "if spellId == 28272 then --Polymorph: Pig " |
| 01:13.39 | Paene | Cyrect: that's left over from something I was trying earlier |
| 01:13.46 | Cryect | ah! |
| 01:13.54 | Cryect | JoshBorke, well I was curious what he was thinking |
| 01:14.11 | JoshBorke | Cryect: have you read your own code lately? :-P |
| 01:14.14 | Cryect | the reason that code isn't prolyl working is due to Cryolysis2.Private.DebuffDuration[spellId] |
| 01:14.42 | Cryect | spellID is no longer what it was when you received your event |
| 01:15.18 | Cryect | JoshBorke, heh was reading my code today while writing documentation at work :-p though not my old code which always has issues with my first prototype implementations of systems that never get replaced :-p |
| 01:15.40 | JoshBorke | wtb punctuation |
| 01:15.45 | Cryect | if you want to keep track of the spellID you need to store it basically Paene |
| 01:15.48 | Cryect | wtb more wine! |
| 01:15.59 | Cryect | though I prolly should finish off the current bottle I'm drinking |
| 01:15.59 | kenlyric | smiley faces were his punctuation |
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| 01:16.13 | JoshBorke | i can't even understand: though not my old code which always has issues with my first prototype implementations of systems that never get replaced |
| 01:16.18 | Cryect | replace :-p with a comma or period |
| 01:16.34 | Cryect | thats an interesting run on sentence I wrote |
| 01:16.41 | JoshBorke | no shit sherlock |
| 01:16.49 | Paene | Cyrect: yeah...I actually did store it, but never modified that part of the code |
| 01:16.57 | Paene | I think it's time for me to take a break and come back in a few mins |
| 01:16.58 | Paene | lol |
| 01:17.00 | JJSheets | is away: Dinnertime |
| 01:17.01 | Cryect | ah! well thats the issue |
| 01:17.08 | Paene | originally |
| 01:17.09 | JoshBorke | blah blah blah, cryect is a dirty whore |
| 01:17.13 | Paene | I was passing the spellID directly |
| 01:17.15 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: write HealCap you bastard |
| 01:17.17 | Cryect | JoshBorke, I'm only dirty for you |
| 01:17.19 | Paene | from the combat log event |
| 01:17.24 | JoshBorke | cryect: ;-) |
| 01:17.43 | Cryect | Like Recount that was just a bunch of prototypes of ideas I came up with :-p |
| 01:17.50 | Cryect | wasn't meant to be used by a bunch of people |
| 01:18.04 | JoshBorke | when ya gonna help me with my mod? |
| 01:18.09 | Cryect | what mod of yours? |
| 01:18.15 | JoshBorke | GuildBook :-D |
| 01:18.19 | Arrowmaster` | thats why i have a policy of not putting prototype stuff in trunk |
| 01:18.22 | JoshBorke | you know, a wiki in game |
| 01:18.29 | Cryect | oh reminds me! on your keyboard mod do you mean it to stay up after you close options? |
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| 01:18.38 | Cryect | Hmm haven't heard of it |
| 01:18.43 | JoshBorke | Cryect: yes because i'm too lazy to track to see if it is open before hand |
| 01:18.51 | Cryect | heh k |
| 01:18.54 | JoshBorke | Cryect: course not, it doesn't actually work well yet |
| 01:19.05 | JoshBorke | Cryect: my response was "click teh X you lazy bastard" |
| 01:19.14 | JoshBorke | maybe i left out the "you lazy bastard" part, not sure |
| 01:19.44 | stavmar | Antiarc: I am still getting the channel names reset on Chatter each time I log in, it goes back to default, am I doing something wrong? |
| 01:19.48 | Cryect | I don't think you want me helping you write anything at the moment while I have a buzz :-p |
| 01:20.01 | Cryect | if my grammar didn't give enough clues to |
| 01:20.03 | JoshBorke | isn't it a bit early to have a buzz? |
| 01:20.17 | Cryect | I like drinking while I eat? |
| 01:20.19 | JoshBorke | hell, i got home from work 90 minutes ago |
| 01:20.22 | Cryect | and prefer not to goto sleep with a buzz |
| 01:20.37 | Cryect | I've been home from work for like 2 and half hours |
| 01:21.18 | Cryect | Wine just gives a me a buzz so much faster though than beer |
| 01:21.24 | JoshBorke | me too! |
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| 01:21.49 | JoshBorke | glad to know i'm not the only one |
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| 01:22.29 | Paene | Cyrect: I'm still having issues with the event never actually firing |
| 01:22.42 | JoshBorke | Paene: seriously? |
| 01:22.42 | Cryect | are you allowed to call ScheduleEvent with a delay of 0? |
| 01:22.42 | JoshBorke | pastey your current code |
| 01:22.43 | Cryect | oh I see it does |
| 01:22.43 | JoshBorke | Cryect: yes |
| 01:22.58 | Paene | I'm not calling it that way anymore |
| 01:23.08 | JoshBorke | Paene: pastey your code |
| 01:23.12 | Paene | k |
| 01:23.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: so you finally tested SR? |
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| 01:30.55 | Paene | http://ace.pastey.net/85941 |
| 01:30.59 | Paene | there's Cryolysis2.lua |
| 01:31.44 | Cryect | hmm |
| 01:31.44 | Arrowmaster` | are we talking first first or first released? |
| 01:32.15 | Cryect | heh first released was CombatGraph I think of mine |
| 01:32.16 | Paene | first first |
| 01:32.25 | Paene | first and only |
| 01:32.26 | Paene | lol |
| 01:32.30 | JoshBorke | Cryect: yea it was, and i totally stole shit from it |
| 01:32.36 | JoshBorke | Cryect: until i realized how much it sucked |
| 01:32.40 | Cryect | haha, I pity you |
| 01:32.42 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 01:32.47 | JoshBorke | me too |
| 01:33.00 | Cryect | I stole shit from damagemeters and some ideas from Gram |
| 01:33.09 | JoshBorke | Cryect: yea, i remember |
| 01:33.16 | Arrowmaster` | i dont think i have an addon released on a real release site yet and ive got more svn commits to more different addons than some translators |
| 01:33.16 | JoshBorke | Paene: why are you doing stuff in PEW? |
| 01:33.50 | Paene | where should I be? |
| 01:34.00 | chexsum | "Sound\\Spells\\PolyMorphTurtle.wav" |
| 01:34.34 | chexsum | "Sound\\Spells\\PolyMorphChicken.wav" "Sound\\Spells\\PolyMorphCow.wav" "Sound\\Spells\\PolyMorphTarget.wav" |
| 01:34.44 | chexsum | :P |
| 01:37.43 | JoshBorke | Paene: OnInit or OnEnable |
| 01:38.24 | Paene | you can't get info about the player in OnInit and OnEnable I though? |
| 01:38.26 | Paene | *thought? |
| 01:38.34 | JoshBorke | Paene: add AceEvent:RegisterEvent("CheckPolyWarn", function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("WTF") end) |
| 01:38.39 | JoshBorke | Paene: you assumed wrong |
| 01:38.58 | JoshBorke | Paene: you know class, race, server, name at log in |
| 01:40.24 | Paene | JoshBorke: I threw that into OnEnable(), no go |
| 01:40.28 | Paene | nothing happened |
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| 01:43.08 | vithos | Antiarc: illidan's threat needs cleared before p3 starts |
| 01:43.22 | vithos | Apoco: didn't get demon phase timers for the first one |
| 01:46.00 | JoshBorke | Paene: hm, i dunno |
| 01:46.04 | JoshBorke | Paene: switch to ace3 |
| 01:46.57 | vithos | Antiarc: lock tank was also still on top when he went back to human |
| 01:47.29 | CIA-38 | 03funkydude * r70277 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: save the position of all blocks when dragging stops in case we have many stuck together in a group. |
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| 01:49.46 | CIA-38 | 03Silverstorm * r70278 10StatBlocks_Clock/StatBlocks_Clock.lua: StatBlocks_Clock: Fixing AM/PM logic |
| 01:50.43 | Paene | Cryolysis2:IsEventRegistered("CheckPolyWarn") returns false :-/ |
| 01:51.12 | JoshBorke | told you that you were fucked |
| 01:51.14 | vithos | ALWAYS WITH THE DAGGERS!@#% |
| 01:51.15 | Paene | lol |
| 01:51.18 | vithos | i hate random loot |
| 01:53.39 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 01:53.44 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 01:53.55 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: make sure your statblocks reset their sticky on reload |
| 01:54.07 | JoshBorke | Funkeh`: and grats on sticky :-) |
| 01:54.14 | Starinnia | hurray for sticky |
| 01:54.16 | Funkeh` | thanks |
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| 01:56.01 | Bersirc | I seldom visit IRC and if what I am asking is not proper, please let me know.. I've been told to use "\n" in cowtip for a blank line, but although it creates a selectable nonvisible char in cowtips lines, it doesnt putput any blank lines, I've tried each suggestion I could find on forums and ended emptyhanded... |
| 01:56.26 | Arrowmaster` | try \n\n |
| 01:56.30 | Hydrogen | you arn't using enough caps for irc |
| 01:56.33 | Hydrogen | TRY IT LIKE TIHS |
| 01:56.39 | Funkeh` | doing \n basically means newline |
| 01:56.42 | Cryect | also make sure to ask if you can ask a question |
| 01:56.55 | Hydrogen | multiple times |
| 01:57.00 | Hydrogen | and abbreviate words |
| 01:57.05 | vithos | lol i think we're turning a t6 chest into s2 |
| 01:57.07 | Funkeh` | calm down you two |
| 01:57.11 | Ellipsis | Bersirc: because of the way cowtip works, you may not be able to use linebreaks in it - why not just use two separate lines? |
| 01:58.31 | Bersirc | Ellipsis: It doesnt care :) |
| 01:58.48 | Ellipsis | ? |
| 01:59.09 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis, NO |
| 01:59.14 | Funkeh` | it doesn't |
| 01:59.20 | Ellipsis | huh? |
| 01:59.25 | Funkeh` | care |
| 01:59.34 | Ellipsis | ...what doesn't care about what? |
| 01:59.37 | Bersirc | Ellipsis: my line1: asd, line2: <empty>, line 3: ccc... output has 2 lines |
| 01:59.39 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:59.45 | Funkeh` | god knows |
| 01:59.55 | Funkeh` | try putting a space for line 2 |
| 01:59.58 | Ellipsis | Bersirc: oh, you mean you just want an empty line in cowtip? |
| 01:59.59 | JJSheets | is back (gone 00:42:58) |
| 02:00.01 | Ellipsis | use a color tag |
| 02:00.11 | Ellipsis | [White] alone on the line will make it appear blank |
| 02:01.16 | Bersirc | argh... Thanks the suggestion on the forum to use [TargetExists? [Green]] only worked when I had a target, never even occurred to use it alone |
| 02:01.27 | Bersirc | sorry for taking your time for such a thing. |
| 02:03.28 | Tuller | Ellipsis: wanna argue some more? I'm kindof bored and not in the mood to code :) |
| 02:03.40 | JJSheets | lol |
| 02:03.51 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 02:03.52 | Tuller | i'm in a typing mode of sorts :P |
| 02:03.55 | Aiiane | waffles > pancakes, discuss |
| 02:03.58 | Ellipsis | licks Tuller |
| 02:04.18 | Ellipsis | go on, dare me to tell you what I think of using ace3 for bongos3 :P |
| 02:04.25 | Funkeh` | favourite tv > why > why it's better than someone elses tv show [ GO |
| 02:04.27 | Aiiane | some people consider coding to be arguing with their computer :P |
| 02:04.33 | Tuller | what do you think of me using ace3 for bongos3? :P |
| 02:04.38 | JJSheets | Waffles are definitely better than pancakes. Waffles are crispy and have awesome little pockets for maple syrup. |
| 02:04.54 | Tuller | I agree, the consistency of waffles is much better than that of pancakes. |
| 02:05.00 | Ellipsis | Tuller: remember what Nocts said about it? |
| 02:05.00 | Tuller | ...that's not an argument |
| 02:05.04 | Funkeh` | screw waffles |
| 02:05.07 | JJSheets | lol |
| 02:05.08 | Funkeh` | pancakes are easy |
| 02:05.10 | Tuller | Ellipsis: no? :P |
| 02:05.12 | Funkeh` | easymode ftw |
| 02:05.19 | Ellipsis | Tuller: well, you suck :P |
| 02:05.25 | Ellipsis | you don't need ace3 |
| 02:05.34 | Funkeh` | yeah, you need ace2 |
| 02:05.37 | Funkeh` | and rock |
| 02:05.39 | JJSheets | Waffles are just as easy. Premade, heat em up, maple syrup, sugar rush. easy. |
| 02:05.39 | Ellipsis | no way |
| 02:05.40 | Ellipsis | ace1 |
| 02:05.42 | Funkeh` | AND ace 3 |
| 02:05.42 | Ellipsis | ftw |
| 02:05.48 | Ellipsis | and moar dongle |
| 02:06.04 | Tuller | dongle would probably be best for bongos3, actually |
| 02:06.16 | Ellipsis | I agree |
| 02:06.17 | Tuller | because I don't think I'm not using a part of dongle |
| 02:06.20 | Funkeh` | I got to much dongling already |
| 02:06.20 | Ellipsis | it worked well for bongos2 |
| 02:06.40 | Tuller | i made the transition purely because I was thinking about ace3 config |
| 02:06.46 | estala | wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
| 02:07.03 | Ackis | Antiarc: Ackis casts [Ackis:1592Ackis casts |Hspell] when I did an emote with a spell link in it |
| 02:07.04 | Tuller | then people went, "hey, interface options" |
| 02:07.06 | Funkeh` | Tuller, screw writing the config yourself :AddToBlizzOptions ftw |
| 02:07.07 | ckknight | Tuller: I've found that the Ace3 config is too buggy for me to think about using |
| 02:07.16 | Ellipsis | what they said |
| 02:07.21 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 02:07.22 | Tuller | I'm not using it :P |
| 02:07.29 | Funkeh` | Tuller, max respect for actually writing one yourself :P |
| 02:07.30 | Tuller | it just looked quite nice initially |
| 02:07.44 | Tuller | my config code sucks more or less |
| 02:07.47 | estala | twins dead in reverse order! sacrolash first :D |
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| 02:07.59 | Funkeh` | yeah but you're one of the rares ones that wrote one |
| 02:08.02 | Funkeh` | and a big one |
| 02:08.09 | CIA-38 | 03Balstor * r70279 10LD50_ap/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:08.09 | CIA-38 | LD50_ap: |
| 02:08.09 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.14 | Funkeh` | :addToBlizzOptions was a godsend for my lazyness |
| 02:08.39 | Funkeh` | ah shit better do some svn requests |
| 02:08.55 | Cryect | writing configs is always a pain |
| 02:08.59 | Tuller | I honestly couldn't use rock because the color pciker is scary :P |
| 02:09.08 | Tuller | picker even |
| 02:09.17 | Cryect | I think writing the configs is more of a pain than the addons half the time but thats just because the config is the least fun part :-p |
| 02:09.29 | Cryect | pfft the color picker in rock is cool! |
| 02:09.37 | Tuller | not for my purposes :P |
| 02:09.45 | Tuller | its definitely interesting |
| 02:09.47 | kenlyric | i agree with scary |
| 02:09.48 | Funkeh` | no the funnest part is when someone writes a non config addon that does the exact same and claims its better because it uses less memory |
| 02:09.53 | Tuller | but I want a box |
| 02:09.56 | kenlyric | took a half dozen tries to find the color wheel |
| 02:09.57 | vithos | it's nice, but huge |
| 02:10.13 | vithos | i'd like to have its features on the standard color picker |
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| 02:10.26 | VonhintenHOME` | The standard color picker is garbage.. no RGB inputs |
| 02:10.29 | Tuller | that would eliminate much of the scaryness |
| 02:10.37 | Funkeh` | lulz |
| 02:10.40 | Funkeh` | its nymbia |
| 02:10.41 | Funkeh` | hai |
| 02:10.46 | CIA-38 | 03Balstor * r70280 10LD50_ap/: |
| 02:10.46 | CIA-38 | LD50_ap: |
| 02:10.46 | CIA-38 | - externals |
| 02:10.53 | Tuller | why do you need rgb? |
| 02:11.00 | Funkeh` | and lulz svn request mail from sag_ich_nicht what to do hmm |
| 02:11.00 | vithos | yeah, hex/rgb fields, but with HSV+RGB bars |
| 02:11.11 | VonhintenHOME` | why? so I can get consistent colors |
| 02:11.13 | Cryect | Funkeh`, heh what you don't think that minimalist addon pack with absolutely no configs in it is better than everything else out there! |
| 02:11.15 | VonhintenHOME` | exact even |
| 02:11.15 | Paene | how hard is it to convert from Ace2 to Ace3? |
| 02:11.22 | Gngsk | Funkeh`, do me! |
| 02:11.27 | Funkeh` | um? |
| 02:11.31 | Funkeh` | *cough* |
| 02:11.33 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 02:11.40 | Gngsk | lol, fix my svn account I meant |
| 02:11.40 | Aiiane | 10[19:07] Gngsk: 01Funkeh`, do me! |
| 02:11.42 | Aiiane | aroo? o.0 |
| 02:11.53 | Ellipsis | readies the camera |
| 02:12.22 | Tuller | if you want r g b, then I would guess Color: [box] [r] [g] [b] would work |
| 02:12.42 | Funkeh` | Cryect, makes absolutely no dif really, it's just pissing annoying to spend hours and hours on a config for someone to do that |
| 02:13.05 | Tuller | again, someone do the loadstring thing for an addon config |
| 02:13.13 | Tuller | whee :) |
| 02:13.25 | Cryect | it still takes the memory before its loaded from file memory |
| 02:14.09 | Funkeh` | Gngsk, are you gareth |
| 02:14.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:10] <@Funkeh`> and lulz svn request mail from sag_ich_nicht what to do hmm <--:P |
| 02:14.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` i'd suggest answering it :P |
| 02:14.59 | Funkeh` | I think we should ask Ellipsis what to do about that situation |
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| 02:15.10 | Ellipsis | bwahaha |
| 02:15.15 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, have you been a good boy? |
| 02:15.20 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 02:15.24 | Cryect | we need him to troll us in his commit msgs as well |
| 02:15.30 | Ellipsis | do you promise to be a good boy with your bright shiny svn account? |
| 02:15.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: nope |
| 02:15.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: but i won't touch anything but my own addons :P |
| 02:15.47 | Ellipsis | so why should you get one? |
| 02:16.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:15] <Ellipsis> so why should you get one? <--because i want to be a bad boy to my own addons |
| 02:16.09 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 02:16.09 | Ellipsis | so when you rant about an addon's borked embeds you won't even help out by fixing them? |
| 02:16.26 | sag_ich_nicht | only if the author requests it because he's too lazy to fix it himself :P |
| 02:16.42 | Ellipsis | and wtf is this "my own addons" stuff |
| 02:16.50 | Ellipsis | since when are you not afraid to code |
| 02:16.57 | sag_ich_nicht | never been |
| 02:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i just want to upload NotSimpleCombatLog |
| 02:17.18 | sag_ich_nicht | so the QQ stops about SCL not existing anymore |
| 02:17.23 | Tuller | is it simple? |
| 02:17.26 | Ellipsis | so put it on wowi |
| 02:17.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: cba |
| 02:18.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 02:18.41 | sag_ich_nicht | would fucking spammers stop trying to sell me fake bachelor degrees? |
| 02:18.47 | sag_ich_nicht | if i needed one, i'd fake it myself |
| 02:18.48 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 02:19.22 | Venara | Mh |
| 02:19.25 | Venara | hey tehre |
| 02:19.27 | Venara | *there |
| 02:19.34 | Venara | help me make a decision guys |
| 02:19.41 | Ellipsis | pie |
| 02:19.48 | Zhinjio | cake |
| 02:19.51 | Tuller | don't jump |
| 02:19.55 | sag_ich_nicht | the cake is a lie |
| 02:19.55 | Venara | nono :> |
| 02:20.00 | Venara | wait I'll explain :P |
| 02:20.06 | Zhinjio | wait no! |
| 02:20.10 | Zhinjio | we want to guess more! |
| 02:20.12 | Tuller | 1 and 2 or 1 or 1 or not 2 and 1 |
| 02:20.21 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 02:20.36 | sag_ich_nicht | wth is LD50_ap |
| 02:20.46 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 02:20.47 | Venara | So i'm a priest in T5/T6 content (BT 4/9 and Hyjal 4/5). Is it worthwhile trading in tailoring for alchemy for the new alchemist stone? |
| 02:21.00 | Tuller | I am not a doctor, or raider |
| 02:21.06 | Venara | i mean it sure is pretty overpowered :/ |
| 02:21.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Venara: what's your other profession |
| 02:21.43 | Venara | sag_ich_nicht: Assume your german? :P Verzaubern / Enchanting |
| 02:21.55 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 02:22.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i wouldn't do it |
| 02:22.07 | Venara | why? |
| 02:22.13 | sag_ich_nicht | because i'm lazy |
| 02:22.28 | sag_ich_nicht | and i'd just have to make myself a tailor again in WotLK |
| 02:22.31 | VonhintenHOME` | You know, we have an enh shammy that does the same DPS as me (rogue), and I'm the #1 slot... why the hell bring a rogue when you can bring a class that buffs people and does the same DPS |
| 02:22.45 | sag_ich_nicht | VonhintenHOME`: you suck |
| 02:22.47 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2play |
| 02:22.49 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 02:22.51 | Venara | well see, i don't use tailoring any more |
| 02:22.51 | VonhintenHOME` | no, I really don't :) |
| 02:22.54 | sag_ich_nicht | (or get better equip) |
| 02:22.57 | Venara | enchanting is really useful |
| 02:23.04 | Ellipsis | needs moar glaives |
| 02:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Venara: well if you don't use it anymore |
| 02:23.06 | Venara | and the alchemy stone would be useful as well :> |
| 02:23.10 | VonhintenHOME` | we're not T6 yet |
| 02:24.16 | Tuller | I have reached a startling conclusion! |
| 02:24.25 | Ellipsis | cake > pie? |
| 02:24.27 | Tuller | betterblizzoptions should be libbetterblizzoptions |
| 02:24.32 | Arrowmaster` | yes more glaives! |
| 02:24.32 | Tuller | :) |
| 02:24.33 | Venara | lol ^^ |
| 02:24.34 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 02:24.46 | Tuller | I have a justification :) |
| 02:24.48 | Arrowmaster` | if we dont get a glaive this week we still will have a 50% drop rate! |
| 02:24.55 | Tuller | ace! |
| 02:24.59 | Ellipsis | I want a LibTuller-1.0 to embed into all my addons to make them 32756% moar efficient |
| 02:25.00 | Venara | Arrow, hey there ;> |
| 02:25.01 | Tuller | ace1 rather |
| 02:25.05 | Funkeh` | ok requests done |
| 02:25.20 | Ackis | sings chocolate rain |
| 02:25.22 | Tuller | general user say, "this thing depends on a lib!" and explodes |
| 02:25.34 | Tuller | at least that was classic wow |
| 02:25.41 | Venara | omg, Ackis get outta your corner and stop singing :P |
| 02:25.41 | Ellipsis | yes and they need to gtfover it |
| 02:26.14 | Tuller | the other option being set that as a req dependency on stuff that needs it to work |
| 02:27.14 | Tuller | I know how to make the interface more efficient with a lib embed too |
| 02:27.17 | Tuller | step 1: |
| 02:27.34 | Tuller | generate a lua error that prevents any other addon from loading |
| 02:27.36 | VonhintenHOME` | cut a hole in a box |
| 02:27.50 | Tuller | same thing |
| 02:27.58 | Ellipsis | would like that present |
| 02:28.49 | Tuller | a hole in a box? |
| 02:28.59 | VonhintenHOME` | fail |
| 02:29.03 | Tuller | my cat's favorite |
| 02:29.24 | Tuller | also intentional fail |
| 02:29.26 | Ellipsis | er...something like that |
| 02:29.35 | Funkeh` | brb |
| 02:30.26 | Tuller | what would van gogh do in our era.... |
| 02:31.00 | Ellipsis | pie |
| 02:31.46 | Tuller | apple? chocolate? key lime? |
| 02:31.54 | Tuller | cherry? |
| 02:32.15 | Tuller | pecan? |
| 02:32.31 | Ellipsis | pumpkin! |
| 02:32.45 | Tuller | goodjob |
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| 02:33.39 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks Funkeh` |
| 02:33.52 | Funkeh` | np |
| 02:34.24 | Paene | bah |
| 02:34.29 | Paene | AceTimer isn't working either |
| 02:34.32 | Paene | wtf |
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| 02:35.46 | durcyn | sounds like a personal problem |
| 02:36.04 | Funkeh` | what do you mean it isn't working |
| 02:36.36 | Tuller | resists urge to say, "that's what she said" |
| 02:36.58 | CIA-38 | 03sag_ich_nicht * r70281 10NotSimpleCombatLog/ (. NotSimpleCombatLog.toc nscl.lua): |
| 02:36.58 | CIA-38 | NotSimpleCombatLog: initial commit |
| 02:36.58 | CIA-38 | - Hardcoded re-creation of the most popular SCL setup |
| 02:37.03 | Paene | I'm having an interesting coding problem |
| 02:37.48 | Paene | For some reason, both AceEvent-2.0 and AceTimer-3.0 fail to schedule a function call |
| 02:37.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh, commit messages look ugly with my name highlighting triggering inside them |
| 02:38.01 | Ellipsis | my money's on doing it wrong |
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| 02:39.54 | Paene | JoshBorke was looking at it earlier, but couldn't figure out what the problem was |
| 02:41.20 | Arrowmaster` | they dont get called at all? |
| 02:42.44 | Paene | nope |
| 02:43.15 | Paene | nor does a print statement right after it |
| 02:44.30 | Paene | http://ace.pastey.net/85944 "timer made" prints out fine..."scheduled" never prints |
| 02:45.10 | CIA-38 | 03sag_ich_nicht * r70283 10PotHoe/ (. PotHoe.lua PotHoe.toc): |
| 02:45.10 | CIA-38 | PotHoe: initial commit |
| 02:45.10 | CIA-38 | - Announces CurrentMP=MaxMP-2700 into Parrot. |
| 02:45.10 | CIA-38 | - LibSink use & hardcoded var removal to be done later |
| 02:45.11 | CIA-38 | 03brimm * r70282 10MyThreat/MyThreat.lua: |
| 02:45.13 | CIA-38 | MyThreat: |
| 02:45.15 | CIA-38 | -Added config options to the Blizzard Interface menu. |
| 02:45.17 | CIA-38 | -Fixed a bug with changing settings. |
| 02:46.16 | WobWork | Isn't AceTimer embedded into the object? |
| 02:46.40 | Funkeh` | you're trying to execute a function in acetimer |
| 02:46.44 | Funkeh` | not your addon |
| 02:47.05 | durcyn | pretty sure it's a mixin |
| 02:47.18 | Paene | that could be the problem |
| 02:47.25 | Paene | but I'm assuming it's not compatible with Ace2 |
| 02:47.29 | Paene | as a mixin |
| 02:47.35 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 02:47.40 | sag_ich_nicht | did i mention that AceTab needs a slappin? |
| 02:47.57 | durcyn | Paene: newp. libstub. |
| 02:47.59 | WobWork | Paene: It should be fine |
| 02:48.08 | durcyn | or whatever wobin says |
| 02:48.17 | WobWork | actually yeah |
| 02:48.22 | WobWork | I don't know off the top of my head |
| 02:48.41 | WobWork | I advise you don't mix =) |
| 02:49.00 | Arrowmaster` | ace2 and ace3? dont |
| 02:49.06 | WobWork | Just use Ace3 |
| 02:49.12 | WobWork | Or Ace2 |
| 02:49.33 | Arrowmaster` | last i saw he was using something writen in ace2 as a base |
| 02:49.42 | Paene | well, converting to Ace3 is gonna take awhile |
| 02:50.50 | Paene | I guess that's tomorrow's project |
| 02:50.51 | WobWork | Just use AceTimer-2.0? |
| 02:50.52 | Paene | heh |
| 02:50.56 | Paene | is there one? |
| 02:51.01 | Arrowmaster` | no |
| 02:51.08 | WobWork | It's in AceEvent isn't it? |
| 02:51.11 | Paene | yeah |
| 02:51.12 | Arrowmaster` | yes |
| 02:51.16 | Paene | that wasn't working either |
| 02:51.20 | Paene | and what's wierd |
| 02:51.47 | Paene | is if I move RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED"), that even stops working properly |
| 02:51.52 | Paene | *event |
| 02:52.19 | Arrowmaster` | i suggest not using a custom named event then |
| 02:52.52 | Paene | thought u had to with AceEvent? |
| 02:53.02 | Paene | i got errors when I didn't register the custom event |
| 02:54.19 | CIA-38 | 03sag_ich_nicht * r70284 10NotSimpleCombatLog/: |
| 02:54.19 | CIA-38 | NotSimpleCombatLog: |
| 02:54.19 | CIA-38 | - Add log template |
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| 02:54.44 | CIA-38 | 03sag_ich_nicht * r70285 10PotHoe/: |
| 02:54.44 | CIA-38 | PotHoe: |
| 02:54.44 | CIA-38 | - Add log template |
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| 02:58.29 | Olison | PotHoe... |
| 02:58.36 | sag_ich_nicht | yupp |
| 02:58.41 | Olison | That's some creativity right there |
| 02:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 02:58.45 | JJSheets | lol |
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| 03:05.06 | JJSheets | Pendulum, A skinnable analog clock: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12919.0 |
| 03:05.13 | JJSheets | With screenshots. |
| 03:05.21 | VonhintenHOME` | fucking vashj |
| 03:05.52 | VonhintenHOME` | this fight is stupid skewed against melee heavy raids |
| 03:06.29 | starlon | used to be worse before the cleave change |
| 03:06.40 | VonhintenHOME` | what cleave change? |
| 03:06.43 | VonhintenHOME` | they still cleave |
| 03:06.51 | starlon | cleaves used to be 360 |
| 03:06.55 | VonhintenHOME` | LOL |
| 03:07.11 | VonhintenHOME` | that's not even funny |
| 03:07.21 | starlon | Blizz thought it was |
| 03:07.54 | fooxor | vashj is like: to many tainted spawns at the side where the retards are = you lose |
| 03:07.55 | fooxor | ;x |
| 03:08.15 | CIA-38 | 03jjsheets * r70286 10ButtonFacade/ButtonFacade.lua: |
| 03:08.15 | CIA-38 | ButtonFacade: |
| 03:08.15 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:08.41 | VonhintenHOME` | oh, but the striders didn't fear when there was 360 deg cleave |
| 03:08.45 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd take that over this |
| 03:09.58 | Megalon | strider always feared |
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| 03:10.10 | Megalon | but at the beginning, Fear Ward was not consumed by their aoe-fear |
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| 03:16.40 | CIA-38 | 03kagaro * r70287 10kgPanelsConfig/ArtHelper.lua: kgPanelsConfig: fixed config error |
| 03:20.25 | CIA-38 | 03paene * r70288 10Cryolysis2/ (27 files in 4 dirs): |
| 03:20.25 | CIA-38 | Cryolysis2: |
| 03:20.25 | CIA-38 | - Removed some redundancy |
| 03:20.25 | CIA-38 | - Added a timer bar for polymorph (doesn't refresh properly) |
| 03:21.01 | dre^ | VonhintenHOME`: if you think vashj is hard on mele, wait until you fight archimonde :) |
| 03:21.35 | dre^ | in that fight you literally have a better chance by sending all the mele to sit in the corner during the whole fight, unless they are all good dancers |
| 03:21.57 | dre^ | (except the tank of course) |
| 03:22.42 | Hydrogen | dood |
| 03:22.48 | Hydrogen | I dance like no one has ever danced |
| 03:22.50 | Hydrogen | while standing on my hands |
| 03:22.52 | Hydrogen | without pants |
| 03:23.32 | dre^ | in fire, presumably :) |
| 03:23.47 | ckknight | hey all, Cartographer3 is finally in a usable state |
| 03:23.55 | ckknight | i.e. there is now a proper player arrow and you can finally close it |
| 03:24.13 | kenlyric | lol |
| 03:24.21 | JJSheets | lol |
| 03:24.28 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 03:24.30 | kenlyric | that's the microsoft school of releasing |
| 03:24.36 | kenlyric | "it doesn't explode, ship it" |
| 03:24.41 | CIA-38 | 03nicksmith * r70289 10TMrecruit/ (Core.lua TMrecruit.toc Version Log.txt): TMrecruit: Very basic version checker added |
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| 03:24.50 | kenlyric | oops, explosions fixed in sp1 |
| 03:25.06 | ckknight | kenlyric: it's nowhere near done, but if anyone wants to test it, that's cool |
| 03:27.14 | aestil | ckknight: i don't understand how cart 3 is different from cart current. |
| 03:27.30 | ckknight | Cartographer 3 replaces the world map instead of augmenting it |
| 03:28.10 | ckknight | and has cool features such as zooming and Yatlas-style functionality |
| 03:28.16 | ckknight | (thus far) |
| 03:28.21 | aestil | ok. |
| 03:28.29 | aestil | well. yay for that. |
| 03:28.34 | ckknight | it's also a lot more efficient CPU and memory-wise, though currently has far less features |
| 03:28.39 | aestil | i didn't even know there was anythign wrong with cart. |
| 03:28.44 | ckknight | currently, I have Cart3 running at 0.11% CPU |
| 03:28.56 | VonhintenHOME` | faster loading time? |
| 03:29.00 | ckknight | aestil: would you mind trying out Cart3 for me? perhaps giving your thoughts? |
| 03:29.09 | aestil | i have to check out from svn? |
| 03:29.13 | ckknight | in comparison, Cart2 runs at about 1-2% CPU |
| 03:29.13 | aestil | i don't have a client. |
| 03:29.15 | aestil | i don't know how. |
| 03:29.21 | ckknight | aestil: it's not on SVN, let me get you a link |
| 03:29.27 | aestil | yes, i will use. |
| 03:29.36 | Arrowmaster` | everything is wrong with cart |
| 03:29.40 | aestil | will gathermate / routes hook into it. |
| 03:29.55 | ckknight | currently, no |
| 03:29.58 | aestil | ok. |
| 03:30.03 | ckknight | Cart3: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/c9c7e6400d747f15a3aeb01b52c5f11bdf2fae2b.tar.gz |
| 03:30.10 | ckknight | it's not done |
| 03:30.21 | aestil | pax global header? |
| 03:30.26 | ckknight | but if you try it now, tell me your thoughts, maybe some ideas you have, it'd be great |
| 03:30.26 | aestil | that needs to get unzipped too? |
| 03:30.30 | ckknight | pax? |
| 03:31.00 | dre^ | pax is an odd archiving tool / file format that not many people use directly... |
| 03:31.06 | dre^ | but that's probably not the one you mean |
| 03:31.11 | ckknight | it's done in tar.gz |
| 03:31.44 | Venara|zzZ | Ackis ! |
| 03:31.44 | JJSheets | a good free unzipper for tar.gz on windows is 7zip. |
| 03:31.57 | aestil | i just used winrar |
| 03:32.13 | JJSheets | clickies on the cart3 link, wants to see that zooming stuff... |
| 03:32.27 | aestil | what will the addon load as? |
| 03:32.59 | ckknight | Cartographer3 |
| 03:33.12 | ckknight | rename the folder as Cartographer3, btw |
| 03:33.35 | Ackis | wtb mod to kill twins pst |
| 03:33.38 | aestil | that information would have been better before i loged in. |
| 03:33.52 | Ackis | ohh i see my name |
| 03:34.00 | Venara|zzZ | ya |
| 03:34.04 | Venara|zzZ | me called ya |
| 03:34.07 | ckknight | sorry, aestil |
| 03:34.17 | Ackis | np raiding so not paying attention |
| 03:34.28 | Venara|zzZ | i just need a quick info |
| 03:34.39 | Ackis | sure |
| 03:34.44 | Arrowmaster` | cd Cartographer3; git pull |
| 03:34.48 | Arrowmaster` | so fast |
| 03:34.50 | Arrowmaster` | god i love git |
| 03:35.17 | aestil | yeah, thats coool. |
| 03:35.18 | Venara|zzZ | XRS: icons for greater blessings are still shown as a heart candy. possible this is caused because you didn't ad them to XRS_BuffClass.lua from line 504 to 538 |
| 03:35.38 | Venara|zzZ | local _,_,tmpicon = GetSpellInfo(self.data.buffs[1])" |
| 03:35.40 | Venara|zzZ | ^^ |
| 03:35.42 | aestil | so, does the regular world map not load or something? |
| 03:36.09 | aestil | woah |
| 03:36.15 | aestil | you can zoom into the minimap detail maps. |
| 03:36.19 | ckknight | yes you can. |
| 03:36.26 | aestil | will you have those maps for the interwebs? |
| 03:36.31 | aestil | i mean, the instances? |
| 03:36.35 | ckknight | oh yes. |
| 03:36.45 | ckknight | with the same zooming and all |
| 03:36.49 | ckknight | Arrowmaster`: :-) |
| 03:36.53 | Arrowmaster` | ckknight: you lied to me when you told me you had a map for sunwell instance |
| 03:36.59 | Arrowmaster` | last time i checked |
| 03:37.11 | Zhinjio | ckknight: what do you do with things that are close, say ... brd / lbrs / ubrs? |
| 03:37.13 | ckknight | oh, Cart3 doesn't have instance maps yet, I believe I misread what you wrote. |
| 03:37.21 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 03:37.50 | ckknight | Zhinjio: it'll be like how Cart2 does it, mostly. |
| 03:38.04 | Venara|zzZ | Ackis ! you're already gone again? ^^ |
| 03:38.18 | Zhinjio | Venara|zzZ: he's raiding. chill out. |
| 03:38.20 | Ackis | venara: it should've been fixed |
| 03:38.38 | Venara|zzZ | Zhinjio: i know, i like to tease him :P |
| 03:38.39 | JJSheets | ckknight, that is fucking awesome looking. |
| 03:38.41 | Ackis | i'll look at it this weekend |
| 03:38.48 | Ackis | right as you asked we were pulling :P |
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| 03:38.52 | Venara|zzZ | mhh |
| 03:38.56 | ckknight | JJSheets: glad you like it. |
| 03:39.02 | ckknight | JJSheets: I'm open to any suggestions |
| 03:39.04 | Venara|zzZ | well i think i found where the code is missing |
| 03:39.11 | Venara|zzZ | i'll try fixing it :D |
| 03:39.14 | Ackis | ck: cowbells |
| 03:39.18 | Ackis | venara: kk |
| 03:39.27 | Zhinjio | ckknight: still support right/left click for zoom in/out |
| 03:39.29 | ckknight | I already got that one down, Ackis. "Needs more cowbell" |
| 03:39.35 | Ackis | sweet |
| 03:39.40 | Zhinjio | clicked point becomes new "center" |
| 03:39.55 | ckknight | Zhinjio: hrm, that's reasonable |
| 03:40.34 | Zhinjio | that can also solve some of the problems with inaccuracy whenyou're trying to zoom into an instance/zone |
| 03:40.37 | ckknight | actually, right-clicking might end up opening a context menu or something... |
| 03:40.45 | aestil | ckknight: i just want the normal things i use the map for, mining nodes, guild positions, instance maps. |
| 03:40.49 | Zhinjio | if it eventually will hover over an instance map or something |
| 03:40.51 | aestil | ckknight: i request better instance loot. |
| 03:40.55 | ckknight | Zhinjio: well, I'll have a "show zone", which will move and size appropriately |
| 03:40.58 | aestil | ckknight: the loot wasn't a great module. |
| 03:41.04 | ckknight | aestil: I agree. |
| 03:41.29 | Arrowmaster` | showing instance maps on worldmap = bad idea |
| 03:41.38 | Arrowmaster` | they dont fit properly |
| 03:41.43 | ckknight | Arrowmaster`: I've still not decided how to do it. |
| 03:41.50 | aestil | is this rock or ace3? |
| 03:41.54 | ckknight | Arrowmaster`: my thought was to put them off to the side of the continents |
| 03:41.59 | ckknight | aestil: no framework |
| 03:41.59 | Zhinjio | neither |
| 03:42.14 | Gngsk | it'll be it's own framework |
| 03:42.20 | ckknight | no, Gngsk |
| 03:42.49 | Venara|zzZ | so |
| 03:43.12 | Venara|zzZ | i just fixed the XRS thing, who do i commit this for other people? |
| 03:44.17 | Venara|zzZ | Ackis: you just forgot to add 2 lines for Greater Blessing of Kings, the other GB were already in there |
| 03:44.41 | Ackis | ahh k |
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| 03:44.50 | Ackis | ps: i'm going to forget in about 10 minutes |
| 03:44.54 | Ackis | ;) |
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| 03:45.50 | Venara|zzZ | so tell me , how can i commit this? i mean, i like fixed it, i wanna take credit for it :P |
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| 03:45.58 | Ackis | i was gonna put your name in the commit log, but if you have svn access then look ath the howto on the forumz |
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| 03:46.33 | Venara|zzZ | mh, no i do not have one of those accounts, but it'll be cool to show up in the commit log :) I'll whisper the fix to you, so you can look at it later |
| 03:46.41 | CIA-38 | 03jjsheets * r70290 10Pendulum/Textures/ (9 files): |
| 03:46.41 | CIA-38 | Pendulum: |
| 03:46.42 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.42 | CIA-38 | ~lart jjsheets |
| 03:46.42 | purl | slams jjsheets against a large cement Tux |
| 03:46.42 | Ackis | k pls |
| 03:46.57 | Zhinjio | JJSheets: what's pendulum do? |
| 03:47.09 | JJSheets | Zhinjio, it's a skinnable analog clock. |
| 03:47.17 | Zhinjio | aha |
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| 03:49.54 | Maelos | Can I get some feedback on my UI |
| 03:49.59 | Maelos | http://www.maelos.com/index.php?p=screenshots |
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| 03:50.43 | estala | Looks pretty nice |
| 03:50.47 | estala | I'm not a fan of the style |
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| 03:50.52 | estala | but nothing that makes me want to gouge my eyes out |
| 03:50.57 | pastamancer | Maelos: your buttons are tiny and hard to tell apart |
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| 03:51.14 | estala | astamancer: what does it matter? |
| 03:51.15 | Maelos | I shrunk the image down quite a bit for the screenshot |
| 03:51.23 | pastamancer | try and cut down on the number of visible buttons and increase their size |
| 03:51.33 | pastamancer | what's the dead space above the buttons for? |
| 03:51.33 | Maelos | Sounds reasonable |
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| 03:51.43 | Maelos | That's where the pet bar would be |
| 03:51.43 | estala | I would wager some pet buttons are there |
| 03:51.58 | aestil | ckknight: what does no framework mean? hand coded? no prewritten libs to work from? |
| 03:52.02 | Maelos | I had some feedback telling me "I just threw a bunch of mods together" and "its not really a UI" |
| 03:52.02 | pastamancer | there's room for two rows up there |
| 03:52.02 | estala | Showing 0 buttons is the way to go! |
| 03:52.13 | estala | that's all a UI is lol |
| 03:52.15 | estala | is a bunch of mods |
| 03:52.17 | estala | lol |
| 03:52.21 | Maelos | Of course |
| 03:52.26 | Maelos | But I spent quite a bit of time laying it out this way |
| 03:52.36 | Maelos | And deciding what I wanted to use |
| 03:52.45 | ckknight | aestil: I basically make my own frame and use it for OnUpdate and OnEvent. That's about it. |
| 03:52.47 | ckknight | I make my own gui |
| 03:53.04 | Maelos | pastamancer: That's good feedback, thanks -- I'll see what I can do to make better use of that space |
| 03:53.20 | estala | For button reduction |
| 03:53.30 | Maelos | I could honestly run without any bars exposed myself |
| 03:53.31 | estala | It looks as though you have everything bound |
| 03:53.38 | ckknight | aestil: I was thinking about going to Ace3, I'm not sure anymore |
| 03:53.46 | Maelos | Yup, I dont actually click on anything |
| 03:53.48 | estala | Most can get away with having very few, if no buttons shown |
| 03:53.50 | Maelos | Except maybe buffs |
| 03:53.57 | estala | Possibly just a couple for crucial cooldowns (if you don't have a good cooldown mod you like) |
| 03:54.00 | estala | And for range checking |
| 03:54.06 | pastamancer | is everything using the same bar texture? |
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| 03:54.21 | estala | unit frames look like blizzard bar |
| 03:54.21 | Maelos | Yep, but I'm not using any of the texture mods with bartender3 |
| 03:54.24 | estala | sw looks like litestep |
| 03:54.29 | Maelos | Oh, bars |
| 03:54.36 | Maelos | yes, all the bars are the same texture |
| 03:54.49 | Maelos | It used to be called Darkbottom |
| 03:55.08 | JJSheets | Whoever is Maintaining StatBlocks_DogTag, there's an error on line 55 of the lua file. The "Unit" arg need to be before the table. |
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| 03:55.25 | pastamancer | you probably don't need the little bar at the bottom of omen unless you switch modes frequently |
| 03:55.41 | Maelos | True, though I was hoping to use the AOE mode when it started working :) |
| 03:56.05 | Maelos | The timer bars next to the buffs aren't actually part of the UI, that's Fortewarlock, which I use myself but dont include |
| 03:56.18 | pastamancer | I was just about to ask if that was dotimers |
| 03:56.25 | pastamancer | <-- not a warlock |
| 03:56.37 | estala | Has stuff for all classes! |
| 03:56.37 | Maelos | Forte's timers are amazing. |
| 03:56.44 | Maelos | I've tried them all. It's basically all I use from his package. |
| 03:56.47 | estala | I use the logarithmic cooldown timer |
| 03:56.56 | estala | It's fantastic |
| 03:57.11 | Maelos | That is kind of neat but I haven't needed it. I guess I would if I didn't have all the action bars exposed. |
| 03:57.11 | estala | A suggestion: maybe cut down to one fubar on the bottom |
| 03:57.18 | estala | You could disable the text on almost all of your plugins |
| 03:57.20 | estala | they all have unique icons |
| 03:57.29 | estala | and a lot I imagine you don't actually access via the plugin very often |
| 03:57.37 | JJSheets | ckknight, one thing that needs to go into Cart3... it shouldn't always show up on a UI load. :p |
| 03:57.40 | Maelos | True |
| 03:57.53 | CIA-38 | 03nicksmith * r70291 10TMrecruit/ (Core.lua Version Log.txt): TMrecruit: Very basic version checker added - exploit closed for wispering others |
| 03:57.54 | ckknight | yea, currently it doesn't have a DB |
| 03:58.09 | ckknight | it'll eventually just use your settings from last time |
| 03:58.27 | JJSheets | figured as much... but damn it's nice lookin. :) |
| 03:58.33 | Maelos | I got fairly negative feedback on the wow UI forums |
| 03:58.41 | Maelos | All the responses were with UIs with nothing on them |
| 03:58.44 | pastamancer | personally I'm not a big fan of those blue buff timer bars ... EBB? I prefer the default style, but I could see using buffalo or whatever buff mod is hot these days to throw a bunch of normal-ish buff icons where you have those long buff bars |
| 03:58.47 | Maelos | Which I don't know how you'd raid with |
| 03:58.54 | estala | this is what mine looks like |
| 03:58.56 | estala | http://shadox.dreamhosters.com/wow/twins.jpg |
| 03:59.05 | estala | It's very minimal |
| 03:59.11 | estala | but has pretty much all the information you could ever need to know |
| 03:59.19 | Maelos | pastamancer: yeah it's EBB |
| 03:59.24 | estala | Yeah |
| 03:59.31 | estala | I'm not a huge fan of EBB myself, but I'm not really happy with any buff frame |
| 03:59.35 | estala | I may go back to Satrinas |
| 03:59.36 | estala | not sure |
| 03:59.54 | aestil | ckknight: seems like lots of stuff that cart 3 should do would be much simpler not 'reinventing the wheel. |
| 04:00.06 | Maelos | I tend to like EBB mainly because debuffs and poisons really catch my attention |
| 04:00.13 | Maelos | They're fairly large red/green bars |
| 04:00.26 | ckknight | aestil: you do realize that the wheel has been reinvented over 5 times, you know? |
| 04:00.34 | ckknight | is referring to the actual wheel |
| 04:00.39 | Maelos | I could make them smaller and reverse it so they shrink towards the edge of the screen as they expire |
| 04:00.45 | estala | did it get rounder, ckk? :D |
| 04:00.46 | pastamancer | I already recognize buffs by icon, if you could get a flashy or other very noticible border around debuffs, you wouldn't need them taking up that much space |
| 04:00.57 | Maelos | Hmm, I'll check that out too |
| 04:01.06 | Maelos | Maybe I should apply one of the cycircled textures to the bar too |
| 04:01.07 | ckknight | estala: mostly the use of different materials, different widths, different pavements which allow different wheels, etc. |
| 04:01.21 | estala | I am a big fan of EBB for stuff like learning new content, where you are afflicted by unknown debuffs, but for routine shit, icons are nice |
| 04:01.38 | WobWork | That's not reinventing the wheel |
| 04:01.42 | Maelos | I do a lot of raid leading |
| 04:01.50 | estala | brb |
| 04:01.52 | Maelos | So a lot of the info I have up, I need |
| 04:01.59 | Maelos | But yeah I could optimize it based on what you guys are saying |
| 04:02.06 | WobWork | That's streamlining the actual design maybe |
| 04:02.10 | WobWork | but it's not reinventing it |
| 04:02.34 | pastamancer | I'd also put omen a bit closer to the center of the screen so you don't have to take your eyes off the action to watch your threat |
| 04:03.25 | WobWork | Sometimes I find the sheer amount of buffs/debuffs that can be on EBB list to be too much to easily figure out what's what |
| 04:03.26 | Maelos | I could swap the combat log and omen position wise |
| 04:03.44 | WobWork | at least without looking more closely |
| 04:04.04 | pastamancer | oh, and the fubar along the bottom... you don't really need all those parts that just open the config for an addon |
| 04:04.18 | pastamancer | at least turn off the text for them |
| 04:04.23 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70292 10XRS/XRS_BuffClass.lua: |
| 04:04.23 | CIA-38 | XRS: |
| 04:04.23 | CIA-38 | - Buff fix by Venara |
| 04:04.24 | CIA-38 | ~lart Venara |
| 04:04.24 | purl | eats Venara and falls over dead |
| 04:04.26 | WobWork | move that to a dashboard maybe |
| 04:04.39 | aestil | over long periods of time, ace3/rock are new wheels. |
| 04:04.41 | aestil | anyways. |
| 04:04.45 | aestil | someone needs to make aloft. |
| 04:04.50 | aestil | make it not suck. |
| 04:04.55 | WobWork | reinvent it, perhaps? =) |
| 04:04.56 | Maelos | The ones on the bottom left I tend to click on a lot |
| 04:04.59 | Maelos | But the right side, nope, you are right |
| 04:05.16 | WobWork | Maelos: Dashboard is great for a fubar with config plugins on it |
| 04:05.39 | JJSheets | Well... I need to actually get sleep at least one night out of the week. Ya'll have fun now. |
| 04:05.51 | WobWork | pft, why today? |
| 04:05.57 | Thorkild_ | I am new to writing mods so trying to start small. trying to find a way of listing the toons in a chat channel but cant find anything in the functions that would have what I need. Anybody able to offer a clue as to wear to look ? |
| 04:06.40 | Resa | They're already displayed by Blizzard... |
| 04:07.04 | pastamancer | Thorkild_: it's a pain to get that info since it wierds out /chatlist |
| 04:07.14 | Thorkild_ | but i want it as a list so I can then use GetguuildInfo on the list |
| 04:07.19 | Thorkild_ | to figure out everyones guild |
| 04:07.58 | pastamancer | CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_LIST |
| 04:08.10 | Thorkild_ | that lists the channels |
| 04:08.31 | Thorkild_ | arg1 is just a list of all channels I am in |
| 04:08.38 | Maelos | I'll be back in a bit, thanks for the feedback guys |
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| 04:09.09 | pastamancer | it also is used when you list a single channel |
| 04:10.28 | pastamancer | http://ace.pastey.net/85947 |
| 04:13.27 | Thorkild_ | thanks, that should get me going in the right direction |
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| 04:17.10 | jason | Is there read-only access to svn on ace? |
| 04:17.24 | Ellipsis | yeah, svn.wowace.com |
| 04:17.49 | jason | Hm, thought I tried that... Do you still need an account? |
| 04:17.55 | durcyn | no |
| 04:17.56 | Ellipsis | not for that server |
| 04:18.13 | jason | Grr, must have had something wrong |
| 04:18.15 | Ellipsis | you only need an account to commit, and that's on dev.wowace.com |
| 04:19.40 | jason | Great, thanks |
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| 04:24.01 | Chaud | dns propogates fast now apprently =O |
| 04:24.09 | Chaud | 10 min and it works for some people |
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| 04:32.44 | aestil | Antiarc: ping |
| 04:36.38 | durcyn | Ellipsis: do you still give a shit about cowtip |
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| 04:37.14 | Ellipsis | of course, why? |
| 04:37.29 | durcyn | because the offset configuration is making me angry |
| 04:38.23 | durcyn | i'm not 100%, but it appears that the result from moving the offset box are being added to the previous offset |
| 04:38.36 | durcyn | which would be fine if the previous offset was used to position the offset box, but it isn't |
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| 04:39.19 | Zhinjio | durcyn... I wanna make sure we're talking about the same thing |
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| 04:39.34 | Zhinjio | this is the orange box that you move to position where the tooltip(s) will appear, yes? |
| 04:39.45 | durcyn | exactly |
| 04:39.52 | durcyn | when it's shown, it's at a static position |
| 04:40.05 | Zhinjio | and when you click "adjust" set anchor offet |
| 04:40.27 | Zhinjio | ok, so what happens thats wrong? |
| 04:40.32 | durcyn | oh, fuck me, now it's working. i'm going to bang my head against a wall. |
| 04:40.40 | Zhinjio | giggles. sorry |
| 04:40.42 | CIA-38 | 03ostone * r70293 10FuBar_GreatJusticeFu/GreatJusticeFu.lua: FuBar_GreatJusticeFu: Bug fix for printing into raid chat... this time it should work. |
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| 04:41.08 | durcyn | ahha! it resets after displaying an actual tooltip |
| 04:41.57 | durcyn | but only if the offset box is open at the time, hrm |
| 04:42.00 | Zhinjio | like when you hover over the "adjust" button, or a real tooltip from an item or something? |
| 04:42.08 | durcyn | frame tooltip, in this instance |
| 04:42.16 | durcyn | if it was consistent, i'd be less annoyed |
| 04:42.40 | Zhinjio | when you say it "resets"... what does that mean? |
| 04:42.45 | Zhinjio | it moves the box without you moving it? |
| 04:43.14 | durcyn | i mean, that the offset box is positioned at 0,0 on the cursor |
| 04:43.45 | Zhinjio | is cursor your default anchor? |
| 04:43.48 | durcyn | again, it's random as hell |
| 04:43.50 | durcyn | aye |
| 04:43.52 | Zhinjio | oh. |
| 04:43.55 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 04:44.01 | Zhinjio | I never use cursor as anchor (hate that) |
| 04:44.08 | Zhinjio | so I'm probably never seeing what you're seeing |
| 04:44.16 | durcyn | some help you are! |
| 04:44.24 | Zhinjio | ~fail Zhinjio |
| 04:44.25 | purl | Zhinjio, you Fail! |
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| 04:44.53 | durcyn | whatever, not like i reposition it very often |
| 04:45.34 | durcyn | how are you this evening, Zhinjio, it's been forever since we've talked |
| 04:46.34 | Zhinjio | has it? |
| 04:46.51 | Zhinjio | the time, it must just fly away ... to me it feels like just yesterday. |
| 04:47.00 | Zhinjio | which, all things considered, might be because it was. |
| 04:47.02 | WobWork | all my troubles seemed so far away |
| 04:47.21 | Zhinjio | omg wowace singalong. I think I may die. |
| 04:47.37 | Zhinjio | which also rhymed, come to think of it. |
| 04:47.40 | WobWork | we should get Guillotine's bot in here |
| 04:48.05 | Guillotine | hehe |
| 04:48.13 | Guillotine | if people want :P |
| 04:48.31 | WobWork | You need to have it trigger on half lines as well |
| 04:48.48 | Guillotine | the problem with that is it triggering too often |
| 04:48.56 | WobWork | yeah |
| 04:49.07 | WobWork | maybe have a trigger character |
| 04:49.34 | WobWork | o/~ This was a triumph ~/o |
| 04:49.47 | Zhinjio | omg |
| 04:49.53 | Zhinjio | now you got it in my head again |
| 04:49.55 | WobWork | cause it triggered off something completely off the wall before |
| 04:50.05 | WobWork | It wasn't even a lyric match |
| 04:50.09 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:50.22 | WobWork | Zhinjio: Still alive is the best song ever =) |
| 04:50.26 | Zhinjio | truly |
| 04:50.31 | Zhinjio | wanna know the most frightening part of it? |
| 04:50.36 | WobWork | if, in that it's so utterly suggestible, it's fantastic |
| 04:50.37 | Guillotine | WobWork: I got that fixed |
| 04:50.39 | Guillotine | the problem was with : |
| 04:50.50 | Guillotine | it was interpreting that as a system symbol |
| 04:50.56 | Zhinjio | I was reading some blog, or maybe the comment posts on JC's site about the song |
| 04:51.14 | Zhinjio | and somewhere down the posts, there was a guy who was saying he sings it to his baby daughter as a lullaby |
| 04:51.23 | Zhinjio | and I'm thinking to myself. |
| 04:51.24 | Zhinjio | omg.... |
| 04:51.26 | Zhinjio | its perfect. |
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| 04:51.33 | Guillotine | lol |
| 04:51.37 | Zhinjio | we're going to have a generation of geeky kids who think its a lullaby |
| 04:51.45 | WobWork | "Are you still there?" |
| 04:51.53 | WobWork | hehe reminds me of the vgcats strip =) |
| 04:52.10 | Zhinjio | doubly funny because my first kid is arriving end of august, and I can totally see myself singing it to her |
| 04:52.33 | WobWork | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=249 |
| 04:53.18 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:53.19 | Zhinjio | awesome |
| 04:53.32 | Zhinjio | but yeah, I'm completely in love with the song |
| 04:53.48 | Zhinjio | and I can't wait for portal 2 |
| 04:54.06 | WobWork | I can't wait to see how they fit Portal 2 into the storyline |
| 04:54.23 | Zhinjio | durcyn: do I know you from somewhere besides here, or were you just being all metaphorical and shit. |
| 04:54.32 | Zhinjio | no doubt. |
| 04:54.35 | durcyn | Zhinjio: the latter, i assume |
| 04:54.39 | Zhinjio | heheheee |
| 04:54.40 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 04:54.45 | Zhinjio | perfectly acceptable. just wondering. |
| 04:55.25 | Ackis | so we had a 9% wipe on twins... so close... our glaive rogue and a mage died early into P2 =/ |
| 04:57.20 | vithos | [2008/04/17 23:48:07-394-x1]: attempt to call a nil value:(tail call): ?: --- |
| 04:57.23 | vithos | interesting error. |
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| 05:00.16 | Zhinjio | Ackis: called it for the night? |
| 05:01.04 | Ackis | no |
| 05:01.24 | Ackis | got another 90 minutes at least i hope |
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| 05:06.11 | Guillotine | WobWork: its in |
| 05:07.27 | Guillotine | This was a triumph... |
| 05:07.28 | SlicenDice | im making a note here: huge success |
| 05:07.41 | Guillotine | its hard to overstate my satisfaction |
| 05:07.41 | SlicenDice | aperture science |
| 05:07.49 | Guillotine | we do what we must because we can |
| 05:07.49 | SlicenDice | for the good of all of us |
| 05:07.58 | Guillotine | except the ones who are dead |
| 05:07.58 | SlicenDice | but theres no sense crying over every mistake |
| 05:08.45 | Zhinjio | cries little tears of joy. |
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| 05:12.09 | WobWork | but there's no sense crying over every mistake |
| 05:12.09 | JoCoBot | you just keep on trying till you run out of cake |
| 05:14.15 | Zhinjio | and the science gets done |
| 05:14.22 | Zhinjio | .... |
| 05:14.22 | JoCoBot | why dont you take care of me |
| 05:14.30 | Zhinjio | and you make a neat gun |
| 05:14.31 | Guillotine | hmm, another bug to fix |
| 05:14.34 | Zhinjio | hehehehe |
| 05:14.38 | Guillotine | Zhinjio: I think thats one line |
| 05:14.43 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 05:14.45 | Zhinjio | rats |
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| 05:15.00 | Guillotine | and the science gets done, and you make a neat gun |
| 05:15.00 | JoCoBot | for the people who are still alive |
| 05:15.06 | Zhinjio | now these points of data make a neat line |
| 05:15.16 | Zhinjio | oh well, I suck |
| 05:15.31 | Guillotine | Thats the problem with this type of bot :/ no way to account for human memory |
| 05:15.41 | Zhinjio | beautiful line... |
| 05:16.09 | Zhinjio | its making me listen to it again |
| 05:16.17 | Zhinjio | cannot ... control... |
| 05:17.03 | exor674 | damnit, I have to listen to that song again |
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| 05:18.42 | WobWork | now these points of data make a beautiful line |
| 05:19.11 | WobWork | aw, the failures of Conference mode |
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| 05:19.45 | Guillotine | now these points of data make a beautiful line |
| 05:19.45 | JoCoBot | and were out of beta were releasing on time |
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| 05:19.54 | Guillotine | but I'm glad I got burned |
| 05:20.00 | Guillotine | oh, thats one line |
| 05:20.07 | WobWork | yeah, you need to break those down |
| 05:20.07 | Guillotine | but I'm glad I got burned, think of all the things we learned |
| 05:20.11 | WobWork | to both responses |
| 05:20.26 | Guillotine | well, the way it works right now is just parsing the official lyrics |
| 05:20.34 | WobWork | and were out of beta were releasing on time |
| 05:20.34 | JoCoBot | so im glad i got burned think of all the things we learned |
| 05:20.40 | WobWork | hehe 'so' |
| 05:20.44 | Guillotine | ah |
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| 05:21.27 | WobWork | You could probably 'train' it to respond to certain key phrases |
| 05:21.38 | WobWork | like "glad i got burned think of all the things we learned" |
| 05:21.47 | WobWork | to account for human error on the less apparant words |
| 05:22.05 | WobWork | but then again |
| 05:22.09 | Zhinjio | it could even /msg them with the corrections *grin* |
| 05:22.09 | WobWork | it's written in VBscript |
| 05:22.16 | Zhinjio | gah. |
| 05:22.17 | WobWork | so that might be a nightmare and a half =P |
| 05:22.21 | Zhinjio | shivers. |
| 05:22.31 | Zhinjio | makes the sign of the cross in front of himself. |
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| 05:24.59 | Guillotine | Zhinjio: yah, I'm ashamed of it |
| 05:25.09 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 05:25.13 | Guillotine | I already had a VERY old bot written that translated Lojban<->English |
| 05:25.20 | Guillotine | and I decided to just edit one function to do this |
| 05:25.42 | WobWork | Lojban? |
| 05:26.11 | Guillotine | http://xkcd.com/191/ |
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| 05:26.39 | Guillotine | or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban for a more accurate explanation |
| 05:27.18 | Hydrogen | only valid if you wrote it in lolcode |
| 05:27.28 | WobWork | oh man |
| 05:27.34 | WobWork | I'm so out of the loop with that =P |
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| 05:32.35 | WobWork | that's some crazy shit right there |
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| 05:35.46 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:35.48 | WobWork | "Lojban is the first language to survive a schism occurring before anyone spoke it" |
| 05:39.04 | Guillotine | I started trying to learn it, but got too busy :( |
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| 05:41.15 | WobWork | It looks interesting |
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| 05:47.29 | Guillotine | WobWork: it really is |
| 05:47.36 | Guillotine | and its surprisingly easy to learn |
| 05:49.36 | Kemayo | Playing the first time in two weeks. The wine modifier bug is Really Annoying. |
| 05:50.46 | CIA-38 | 03grennon * r70294 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: |
| 05:50.46 | CIA-38 | AutoTurnin: |
| 05:50.46 | CIA-38 | Added another sunwell quest |
| 05:51.36 | Gngsk | Tekkub, ping |
| 05:51.44 | Tekkub | wut |
| 05:52.27 | Gngsk | any chance you could capture keystrokes for amp to move so if I hit z it scrolls down to the first addon starting with z? |
| 05:52.56 | Tekkub | erm... no way that's an assload of keybind bullshit |
| 05:53.03 | Tekkub | could add a search tho |
| 05:53.10 | Gngsk | that'd work |
| 05:53.13 | Tekkub | open a tix |
| 05:53.20 | Gngsk | gcode? |
| 05:54.03 | Zhinjio | heya Tekkub |
| 05:54.10 | Tekkub | yes gcode |
| 05:54.14 | Gngsk | k, will do |
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| 05:56.37 | whalesh4rk | LEROY JENKINS LIVES |
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| 05:57.29 | CIA-38 | 03isler * r70296 10IHML/locales/locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 05:57.29 | CIA-38 | IHML: |
| 05:57.29 | CIA-38 | - zhCN update (by MaGi) |
| 05:57.30 | CIA-38 | 03parnic * r70295 10IceHUD/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:57.31 | CIA-38 | IceHUD: |
| 05:57.31 | CIA-38 | - adding 4 new modules care of Antumbra of Lothar server. Huge thanks to him for writing these! |
| 05:57.39 | CIA-38 | 03kunda * r70297 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-deDE.lua: GatherMate: deDE update |
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| 05:59.32 | WobWork | Kemayo: wine modifier? |
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| 06:00.15 | Kemayo | WobWork: If you're using compiz effects on your desktop then clicking doesn't notice keyboard modifiers unless you time it *really well*. |
| 06:00.35 | WobWork | oh. I stopped using compiz for a bit |
| 06:00.45 | WobWork | and hm, that sucks =P |
| 06:01.21 | Hydrogen | yea, compiz is pretty bad |
| 06:01.27 | WobWork | Guillotine: That lojban has guilted me into getting a chinesepod subscription |
| 06:01.44 | Guillotine | chinesepod? |
| 06:01.51 | WobWork | www.chinesepod.com |
| 06:02.19 | WobWork | basically, I'm telling myself I should know chinese properly before starting on another language =P |
| 06:02.43 | Guillotine | haha |
| 06:04.57 | durcyn | Antiarc: Do you forsee adding an OnDragStop callback to LibBars anchors, or should i just SetScript it myself? |
| 06:09.16 | lagger | where did you find libbars |
| 06:09.39 | Ellipsis | it was under the bed |
| 06:10.28 | Maelos | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5974037638&sid=1&pageNo=1 <-- pissed me off =\ |
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| 06:11.03 | Maelos | I guess I should know better than to ever visit the wow forums. |
| 06:11.57 | Nevins | Anyone know how to connect to 2 servers at once. When ever I leave freenode irc for another server it closes wowace. |
| 06:12.07 | lagger | server -m server |
| 06:12.37 | Ellipsis | depends what client you're using |
| 06:12.38 | Nevins | What would be the full syntax /server -m server xxx.xxxxx.org ? |
| 06:12.45 | Nevins | I'm using Mirc |
| 06:12.50 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 06:12.52 | Ellipsis | do /server -m irc.whatever.org |
| 06:12.52 | durcyn | well, there's your problem. |
| 06:12.58 | Ellipsis | tickles Zhinjio |
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| 06:13.06 | Zhinjio | yowza. |
| 06:13.10 | durcyn | who the devil uses mirc? =( |
| 06:13.11 | Ellipsis | :) |
| 06:13.14 | Ellipsis | I do |
| 06:13.22 | Nevins | Why not? |
| 06:13.22 | Ellipsis | go ahead, tell me why it sucks |
| 06:13.25 | Nevins | It works? |
| 06:13.29 | Ellipsis | will raep durcyn |
| 06:13.50 | Maelos | Klient is the best. |
| 06:14.02 | Maelos | Terrible name, best irc client for windows. |
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| 06:14.12 | durcyn | Ellipsis: k |
| 06:14.28 | Nevins | What makes it better? |
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| 06:14.38 | durcyn | also, there is only irssi. |
| 06:14.46 | Maelos | It's really flexible about multi-network configuration. |
| 06:15.00 | Maelos | I have different autojoins and preferences for each irc network I am on. |
| 06:15.07 | Zhinjio | -I still use irssi on my linux machine |
| 06:15.09 | Zhinjio | have for years and years |
| 06:15.10 | Maelos | Easily customized too if you are in to that sort of thing. |
| 06:15.14 | durcyn | ^5 Zhinjio |
| 06:15.18 | Ellipsis | Maelos: mirc can do all those too |
| 06:15.27 | Ellipsis | btw bitchx ftw kthx |
| 06:15.28 | Maelos | I've not used Mirc in years, I'm sure it has come a long way since I did. |
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| 06:15.37 | Maelos | Yeah bitchx for me on *nix as well. |
| 06:15.44 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't know, I haven't updated mirc in years |
| 06:15.48 | Ellipsis | I still use a rather old version |
| 06:15.56 | Maelos | I'm talking 1996 |
| 06:16.15 | Maelos | I used another one for windows for a while that stopped being maintained |
| 06:16.35 | Maelos | Xircon |
| 06:17.39 | Ellipsis | I tried 'em all and for whatever reason couldn't find anything better than my good ol' mirc |
| 06:17.39 | Olison | oh yeah, i tried that once :D |
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| 06:21.52 | ramoz | so |
| 06:22.10 | ramoz | whats the difference between simpleMiniMap and chinchilla other than Rock vs. Ace2? |
| 06:22.21 | Olison | :)) |
| 06:22.25 | Ellipsis | chinchilla doesn't taint and leak memory |
| 06:22.25 | Olison | gets popcorn. |
| 06:22.42 | Ellipsis | and someone actually maintains it |
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| 06:23.00 | ramoz | hm |
| 06:23.12 | Ellipsis | it also has a few features that smm doesn't |
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| 06:23.41 | Zhinjio | <3 chinchilla. |
| 06:23.48 | ramoz | the chinchilla? :P |
| 06:23.51 | Civrock | Leak memory? |
| 06:23.56 | Zhinjio | I used SMM for along while, and converted to chinchilla in about 10 minutes of looking at it |
| 06:23.57 | Civrock | Time to switch to Chinchilla. |
| 06:24.08 | WobWork | smm leaks memory? |
| 06:24.24 | durcyn | sounds like fud to me |
| 06:24.34 | Civrock | I have been trying to find the source of the mysterious increase of memory usage according to various performance monitoring addons. |
| 06:28.30 | WobWork | what does SMM do that would have it leak memory |
| 06:28.36 | WobWork | doesn't it just reposition crap? |
| 06:29.35 | Ellipsis | its texture handling causes blizz memory leaks |
| 06:29.38 | Ellipsis | because it reapplies them |
| 06:29.40 | Elkano | does squeenix leak, too? |
| 06:30.10 | WobWork | I'd be surprised.. last I looked Squeenix was like 10 lines |
| 06:30.10 | Elkano | btw: Latin American-Spanish? WTF? new country code? |
| 06:30.20 | WobWork | that was a while ago though =) |
| 06:30.34 | durcyn | Elkano: es is the new zh |
| 06:30.36 | Ellipsis | I've never used squeenix, so I haven't seen its code |
| 06:30.52 | WobWork | if I could connect to wowace, I'd check |
| 06:30.58 | WobWork | but I keep getting connection interrupted |
| 06:31.59 | Zhinjio | Elkano: how often in EBB does it resync the bars with the buff to see if its still an accurate timer>? |
| 06:32.05 | Zhinjio | standard onupdate sort of thing? |
| 06:33.21 | Elkano | Zhinjio, times are updated with a .5 schedule iirc |
| 06:33.32 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 06:33.34 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 06:34.21 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna look at the TENCH code again tonight. I saw some weird things last time. Would rather talk to you about it with some facts to talk about instead of just speculation. |
| 06:34.29 | Zhinjio | not sure why it bugs me so much |
| 06:35.22 | Zhinjio | *crazed look* I just can't let it go, man.... I can't let it go |
| 06:35.28 | Zhinjio | ahem. |
| 06:35.33 | Elkano | well, it's good to have someone helping on that matter wince I have no clue at all why it would still happen :/ |
| 06:35.36 | Ellipsis | ~comfort Zhinjio |
| 06:35.37 | purl | There, there, Zhinjio. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:35.45 | Zhinjio | hahahaha |
| 06:35.50 | Zhinjio | thank you, purl. |
| 06:36.02 | Zhinjio | so many triggers, so little time. |
| 06:36.02 | Elkano | personaly, I'm currently in the process of making EBB ready for translations ^^ |
| 06:36.10 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 06:36.23 | Zhinjio | what parts? just menus and stuff? |
| 06:36.29 | Zhinjio | or the text on the bars? |
| 06:37.24 | durcyn | Elkano: i wish you'd put the config in accessible options tables too, instead of just that dewdrop =( |
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| 06:38.31 | Zhinjio | I will admit I dislike dewdrop based configs.... |
| 06:38.41 | Zhinjio | but fortunately, ebb does not require muhc tweaking |
| 06:38.50 | Zhinjio | width, height, text positions |
| 06:38.54 | Zhinjio | colors. done. |
| 06:39.02 | Elkano | Zhinjio, why would the text on the bars need translations? |
| 06:39.14 | Zhinjio | I don't know. |
| 06:39.17 | Zhinjio | thats why I was asking |
| 06:39.35 | Zhinjio | I've not used EBB on a non-enUS client, so I have no idea what accounts for |
| 06:39.54 | Elkano | the names and such come from the API ^^ |
| 06:39.58 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 06:40.38 | Elkano | remembers me that I shoulkd have done the translation stuff for 4/1 without providing any translations ^^ |
| 06:40.58 | Elkano | a config full of strings like OPTIONS_GROUP_GROWUP_NAME would have been funny ^^ |
| 06:43.48 | Fisker- | your mother Elkano btw |
| 06:44.08 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 06:44.10 | Zhinjio | Fisker-: you never fail to raise the bar. |
| 06:44.28 | Fisker- | thanks Zhinjio |
| 06:44.30 | Elkano | Zhinjio, what would be the shortest TENCH you know (wrt time); prevered a cast one (no reagents and such) |
| 06:44.53 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 06:45.03 | Zhinjio | 15 minutes? |
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| 06:45.05 | Zhinjio | 10 minutes? |
| 06:45.06 | Zhinjio | 10 minutes. |
| 06:45.13 | Zhinjio | can't think of any shorter ones |
| 06:45.18 | Elkano | shaman enchants? |
| 06:45.23 | Zhinjio | ah |
| 06:45.28 | Zhinjio | they can be 1s |
| 06:45.34 | Zhinjio | since you can go in and out of range instantly |
| 06:45.48 | Elkano | hmmm |
| 06:45.57 | Zhinjio | totem enchants like windfury or whatever are 2:00 typically, I think |
| 06:46.01 | Elkano | wonder if they trigger the bug, too |
| 06:46.07 | Zhinjio | they do |
| 06:46.19 | Zhinjio | actually, thats a great idea for testing |
| 06:46.28 | Zhinjio | since I can wander out of range of my own totem easily |
| 06:46.47 | Zhinjio | tests right now |
| 06:46.52 | Lukian | lol I'm starting to run low on ammo |
| 06:46.59 | Lukian | I've used like 20k ammo from 62 -> 66. |
| 06:47.35 | Ixnorp | The Windfury Totem buff is a 10 second duration tench that is refreshed every 3 seconds or so while in range of the totem. |
| 06:48.02 | Zhinjio | yup, just watched that |
| 06:48.07 | Zhinjio | and yes, it causes it too |
| 06:48.11 | Zhinjio | posting screenie... |
| 06:48.11 | Ixnorp | I dont know about flametongue totem off hand but I imagine it's the same. |
| 06:49.07 | mykx | hrm deleted both prat and recount and my fps went from 20 in combat to 200+, I wonder what one was causing the issue ^ |
| 06:49.37 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 06:53.02 | Zhinjio | here's one from yesterday: http://tinyurl.com/5b8hrs |
| 06:53.10 | Lukian | mykx, both |
| 06:53.33 | mykx | probably lukian, it's unfortunate about recount because I really liked it but chatter works for me :) |
| 06:53.45 | Lukian | mykx, I agree re: recount |
| 06:54.11 | Lukian | it's recent fight selection is a standout feature |
| 06:54.49 | Zhinjio | here's the album: http://tinyurl.com/6y4hbp |
| 06:54.57 | Zhinjio | tench2 and tench3 are the totem timer test I just did |
| 06:55.00 | Zhinjio | before and after |
| 06:55.02 | mykx | that and I like the DPS values next to the damage done display |
| 06:55.03 | Zhinjio | (during) |
| 06:55.13 | CIA-38 | 03jerry * r70298 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: Grid: fix security bug with GridFrameClass:SetWidth/Height |
| 06:55.32 | Lukian | yeah that's kinda nice |
| 06:55.54 | Elkano | oh, you're using FriendsFu and GuildFu, too ^^ but not FactionsFu ;( |
| 06:56.04 | mykx | would anybody care to explain how I can import a font that one of my addons is using(pitbull) into sharedmedia to use with all of my addons ? |
| 06:56.08 | Zhinjio | am so |
| 06:56.11 | Zhinjio | its on the left |
| 06:56.39 | Zhinjio | er, top left |
| 06:57.30 | Zhinjio | I just don't have it displaying text |
| 06:57.37 | CIA-38 | 03jerry * r70299 10Talented/Locales/zhTW.lua: Talented: update zhTW, thanks BestSteve |
| 06:57.38 | Zhinjio | I save that for the rep/xp bar on the bottom left |
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| 06:58.10 | Elkano | oh, I see :) |
| 06:59.19 | Ixnorp | I <3 GuildFu. |
| 06:59.25 | Zhinjio | me too |
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| 06:59.37 | Zhinjio | Elkano: are those your addons? I lose track anymore |
| 06:59.47 | Zhinjio | sho' nud |
| 06:59.49 | Zhinjio | nuf |
| 06:59.51 | Zhinjio | nice. |
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| 07:00.02 | Elkano | so you use at least four of my addons, cool :) maybe you also use FramesResized, ItemDB could also be there as I see the icon ItemDBFu uses |
| 07:00.20 | Zhinjio | nope and nope. |
| 07:00.25 | Zhinjio | lootlink |
| 07:00.28 | Zhinjio | for items |
| 07:00.31 | Zhinjio | don't resize frames |
| 07:00.37 | Elkano | do you know FramesResized? |
| 07:00.38 | Zhinjio | (just use normal UI scaling) |
| 07:00.50 | Zhinjio | nope. maybe I'm making assumptions from the name>? |
| 07:01.04 | Ixnorp | GuildFu sets my emotional state at raid time. All I have to do is glance up at the top center of my screen to know if I need to be elated or depressed when too few people are on to raid. :X |
| 07:01.32 | Elkano | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4547-ElkanosFramesResized.html (though the version on files.wowace.com is newer) |
| 07:03.20 | Zhinjio | ah yes, I did look at that awhile back |
| 07:03.36 | Zhinjio | I don't use the default questUI (nQuestLog) ... i use ATSW for skills |
| 07:03.46 | Zhinjio | so not much benefit to me |
| 07:03.52 | Zhinjio | I rarely retrain |
| 07:04.11 | Elkano | ah, k :) |
| 07:04.26 | Zhinjio | and when I do, I use Talented and pop a template *grin* |
| 07:04.58 | CIA-38 | 03sayclub * r70300 10SimpleMD/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 07:04.58 | CIA-38 | SimpleMD: |
| 07:04.58 | CIA-38 | - koKR Update |
| 07:05.03 | Elkano | well, talent frame isn't resized anyways ^^ |
| 07:05.33 | Zhinjio | trainerui? oh. |
| 07:05.34 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 07:07.17 | Zhinjio | Ah, Elkano ... didn't know you were german? |
| 07:07.54 | Zhinjio | does ItemDB let you browse just your internal cache? |
| 07:08.01 | Zhinjio | or loaded dbs like from lootlink, et al |
| 07:08.11 | Elkano | only the cache |
| 07:08.14 | Zhinjio | or should I say, usw |
| 07:08.19 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 07:08.41 | Zhinjio | heh |
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| 07:08.45 | Elkano | but I have a recode on my HDD that also supports PeriodicTables |
| 07:09.13 | Zhinjio | because the lootlink browser/searching/etc just sucks |
| 07:09.26 | Zhinjio | having a full featured browser for that would be awesome. |
| 07:09.31 | Elkano | and I had done some code to filter based on ItemBonusLib's parsed data, though that requires tons of memory |
| 07:09.56 | Zhinjio | adds another addon idea to the list. |
| 07:11.01 | Elkano | well, I used to use lootlink but since I don't care for suffixes that much the cache was fine for me so I coded ItemDB when 1.8 gave us access to the cache |
| 07:11.25 | Maelos | Are there any other good font options aside from CF2 ? |
| 07:11.42 | odt | why? |
| 07:11.57 | Zhinjio | I've been on a PerspectiveSans kick lately |
| 07:12.11 | Elkano | Maelos, addons that use LibSharedMedia ;) |
| 07:12.15 | Zhinjio | in CF2/SharedMedia |
| 07:12.43 | Maelos | Yeah I have that covered |
| 07:12.48 | Maelos | Im not pleased with the font selections |
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| 07:13.17 | Maelos | Nothing really has the smooth AA look |
| 07:14.39 | mykx | Elkano: any idea why when deleting an addon(prat in this case) has also removed a font that was being used by a completely different addon through sharedmedia ? |
| 07:16.11 | Elkano | mykx, if Prat supplied that font |
| 07:16.35 | mykx | I'm confused because I deleted prat/recount, the font dissapeared.. I then reinstalled them and the font didn't return heh |
| 07:16.43 | mykx | oh well I can live without I suppose it just had me wondering why |
| 07:17.05 | Elkano | so it doesn't show up in the list anymore? |
| 07:17.15 | mykx | nope |
| 07:17.30 | mykx | it was "Avant Garde" I cant seem to find it on any of my addons except pitbull now |
| 07:17.58 | Elkano | well, iirc Prat and Recount use LSM-3, PitBull uses LSM-2 |
| 07:18.31 | mykx | hrm ok perhaps the font is in LSM-2's folder :) |
| 07:19.16 | CIA-38 | 03xinhuan * r70301 10Postal/Modules/Express.lua: Postal: - Fix a hooking issue that shouldn't be possible, probably caused by an unknown interfering addon. |
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| 07:19.48 | mykx | weird I don't see that font listed there. blah this is confusing me lol |
| 07:19.54 | Zhinjio | WHOA. |
| 07:20.06 | Zhinjio | ZOMGBlessings put the icon for greater BoS in my chat window |
| 07:20.11 | Zhinjio | I thought that wasn't possible |
| 07:20.59 | Zhinjio | you can put any icon there, I guess, eh? |
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| 07:22.17 | Elkano | mykx, you could search your addon folder for it ^^ |
| 07:22.38 | mykx | yeah ill try that although its probably named something random like most fonts |
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| 07:22.54 | Fisker- | btw Elkano |
| 07:23.00 | Fisker- | i'll end up destroying you |
| 07:24.27 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 07:24.28 | sag_ich_nicht | why |
| 07:24.31 | sag_ich_nicht | am i installing |
| 07:24.38 | mykx | no results there, guess I'll try and find someones ui that has the font and just take it out |
| 07:24.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Windows 98 SE on a Windows 2008 server |
| 07:24.43 | sag_ich_nicht | over a remote connection |
| 07:24.47 | sag_ich_nicht | in VMWare |
| 07:25.37 | ramoz | sag_ich_nicht: to play CS!!!11one |
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| 07:27.28 | charon | morning |
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| 07:39.25 | CIA-38 | 03idefix * r70302 10autoInvite/ (18 files in 2 dirs): autoInvite: First commit to get my repository version to the wowace repository. |
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| 07:40.53 | Fisker- | one would think that an autoinvite mod wouldn't need to be more than 3 files :P |
| 07:41.06 | Fisker- | or 2 |
| 07:41.11 | CIA-38 | 037destiny * r70303 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua: |
| 07:41.11 | CIA-38 | Recount: |
| 07:41.11 | CIA-38 | - koKR Update |
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| 08:29.22 | Maelos | The whole font situation has me confused. |
| 08:29.35 | Maelos | Prat and CF2 offer completely different fonts. |
| 08:33.22 | Elkano | Fisker-, just for you :P http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Pork/ |
| 08:34.17 | CIA-38 | 03Carlos 07Kyopaxa * r70304 10BigWigs/: |
| 08:34.17 | CIA-38 | BigWigs: |
| 08:34.17 | CIA-38 | - Implementation and review of the whole Spanish esES localization with latest live changes or additions. |
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| 08:37.08 | Gandharva | ping Antiarc |
| 08:38.17 | Fisker- | hai Elkano |
| 08:38.24 | Fisker- | it's old |
| 08:39.06 | evl | Does any events fire when player stats change? |
| 08:39.21 | evl | like armor, attackpower, attackspeed, spelldamge etc. |
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| 08:41.25 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:42.11 | evl | great, want to tell me the name of the event(s)? :D |
| 08:42.24 | Arrowmaster | check wowwiki |
| 08:42.50 | Arrowmaster | theyre all UNIT_* events afaik |
| 08:43.01 | evl | "UNIT_STATS" |
| 08:43.05 | evl | Fired when a units stats are being passed to the player/thing |
| 08:43.12 | evl | I read that as only firing upon login |
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| 08:43.42 | Arrowmaster | "UNIT_ATTACK_POWER" |
| 08:43.58 | Arrowmaster | "UNIT_DAMAGE" |
| 08:44.07 | evl | rofl how could I miss that :)= |
| 08:44.10 | Arrowmaster | "UNIT_DEFENSE" |
| 08:44.11 | evl | I was searching for stat |
| 08:44.16 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Unit_Info |
| 08:47.12 | Elkano | Fisker-, maybe, but it was ment to keep you occupied the day with trying to get it out of your head again ;) |
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| 08:49.58 | Fisker- | already done Elkano |
| 08:56.33 | Elkano | damn, mouseover inspecting via API doesn't work anymore :( |
| 08:56.56 | Ellipsis | yes it does o.O |
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| 08:59.09 | Elkano | select a unit and do GetInventoryItemLink("TARGET", 1) |
| 08:59.22 | Elkano | returns nil until you activly inspect that unit |
| 09:00.58 | Ellipsis | you have to NotifyInspect, yes |
| 09:03.12 | Elkano | hmm... |
| 09:03.36 | Elkano | any documentation on this somewhere? |
| 09:04.04 | Arrowmaster | probably |
| 09:04.22 | Arrowmaster | although you know how us programers are, seems we all hate editing wikis |
| 09:04.24 | dieck | hm, is there any way to use the "tab" targetting mechanism? to write an addon that on keypress changes the target (again and again) until it hits the "Skull" marked? |
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| 09:04.34 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:05.26 | Zeksie | imo, it's something that's missing from the api. to allow /target skull or something along those lines |
| 09:05.57 | Zeksie | BUT.... that would mean they'd have to protect the marking mechanism too. so that won't ever happen |
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| 09:07.38 | Arrowmaster | you either dont have a way to target specific icons, or setting icons becomes a secure action (and the target is a secure action anyway) |
| 09:07.45 | Arrowmaster | will never get both |
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| 09:08.16 | Arrowmaster | being able to set icons is a lot better imho |
| 09:09.32 | Zhinjio | Zeksie: how did you get zomgbuffs to put the icon of GBoS into my chat window? |
| 09:09.37 | dieck | hm, afaik you can at least see if your current target has the skull |
| 09:09.54 | Ellipsis | of course you can |
| 09:10.05 | Ellipsis | but you can't have code that automatically retargets until it finds skull |
| 09:10.06 | Zeksie | |T\\texturepath\\texturename:0|t |
| 09:10.08 | Ellipsis | because targeting is secure |
| 09:10.09 | dieck | so I thought about using the "tab" mechanism to switch targets by repeated keypresses and then stop it if you reached the skull :) |
| 09:10.24 | Zhinjio | Zeksie: hawt. |
| 09:10.28 | Zhinjio | works with any icon? |
| 09:10.31 | Zeksie | ye |
| 09:10.33 | dieck | Ellipsis: not automatically, but wouldn't it be possible by repeated keypresses? |
| 09:10.36 | Zhinjio | *drool* |
| 09:10.49 | Ellipsis | no, because the addon can't *stop* tab from re-targeting after you hit skull |
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| 09:10.53 | Arrowmaster | dieck: no since you cant make it not retarget |
| 09:11.06 | Arrowmaster | well actually i could make it do it but not in combat |
| 09:11.09 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 09:12.03 | Zhinjio | is it possible to get a unique ID of some kind off a corpse? |
| 09:12.10 | Zhinjio | like, during a looting event? |
| 09:12.13 | dieck | I don't thought about stopping tab from working :) but using a second keypress, starting the secure "target next" operation, unless your target has the skull -- or where do i think wrong? |
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| 09:12.23 | Ellipsis | yeah, when you loot it sets your target to the dead mob |
| 09:12.30 | Ellipsis | so you can do UnitGUID("target") |
| 09:13.06 | Zhinjio | hmm. need to do some testing on that one. |
| 09:13.41 | Arrowmaster | theres no way to detect in a macro if your target is marked and stop the macro based on that |
| 09:13.41 | Ellipsis | dieck: everywhere |
| 09:14.01 | Arrowmaster | the only ways to do this all require being out of combat |
| 09:14.34 | Arrowmaster | either by using override bindings or by changing the secure attributes of a secure button |
| 09:15.01 | Ellipsis | dieck, the "unless" part of your statement is the impossible part |
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| 09:16.18 | dieck | hm, ok, looks like I have to reread everything about secure stuff ;) |
| 09:16.39 | Ellipsis | the whole point of secure stuff is to prevent addons from making decisions for you |
| 09:16.47 | Ellipsis | so you can't do secure actions with conditional logic |
| 09:16.57 | Zhinjio | ok, and the GUID doesn't change on death. all of this is good. |
| 09:16.59 | CIA-38 | 03zeksie * r70305 10ZOMGBuffs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:16.59 | CIA-38 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 09:16.59 | CIA-38 | - Tweaked checking code for start of channeling a spell so currently queued spell is removed. |
| 09:17.00 | CIA-38 | - Tick selected spells in raid buff module now ignore group selection setting. |
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| 09:20.05 | evl | What's the easiest way to create a button that when on clicked activates an inventory item/spell |
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| 09:24.18 | Zhinjio | evl: use a macro? |
| 09:25.02 | Zhinjio | <-- no macro expert, but I think can just do something like /use 13 (for first trinket slot) |
| 09:25.06 | Zhinjio | etc |
| 09:25.45 | Zeksie | yeah, i have a generic trinket macro for both: /use [modifier:alt] 13; 14 |
| 09:25.45 | evl | I'm creating buttons via lua |
| 09:26.05 | evl | just not sure if I should use Button or ActionButton, they should preferably be usable in combat |
| 09:27.06 | Zhinjio | lookup the CreateFrame api call, using a type of "Button" |
| 09:27.41 | Zeksie | inherit from SecureActionButtonTemplate and ActionButtonTemplate |
| 09:28.33 | Zeksie | first for the behaviour, second for the appearance |
| 09:28.57 | Zhinjio | Zeksie: so ... I love zomgbuffs. |
| 09:29.04 | Zhinjio | I gotta say though ... I really hate the icon |
| 09:29.19 | Zhinjio | it doesn't really scale well, and its almost unreadable. |
| 09:29.20 | Zeksie | you can get it to use an icon based on ur class |
| 09:29.30 | evl | Zeksie: Thanks, is it possible to have different actions run depending on which mousebutton was clicked? |
| 09:29.31 | Zhinjio | oh yeah? That would be cool, actually. |
| 09:29.37 | Zeksie | yes |
| 09:29.59 | Zhinjio | ok, so its not the icon I hate, its the text overlay *grin* |
| 09:30.03 | evl | Zeksie: state headers? |
| 09:30.07 | Zeksie | evl: SetAttribute("type1", "spell") SetAttribute("spell1", MyFirstSpell) |
| 09:30.11 | Zeksie | change 1 for 2 for 2nd button |
| 09:30.15 | evl | thanks :) |
| 09:30.35 | Zeksie | you can also do SetAttribute("alt-type1" etc. for modified clicks |
| 09:30.46 | evl | Zeksie: and MyFirstSpell can be any lua function? |
| 09:30.48 | Zeksie | or *type1 for a catch-all |
| 09:30.54 | Zeksie | just a spell name string |
| 09:31.03 | evl | what about inventory items |
| 09:31.11 | CIA-38 | 03nemes * r70306 10PitBull/ (Bindings.xml PitBull.lua): |
| 09:31.11 | CIA-38 | PitBull: |
| 09:31.11 | CIA-38 | - add keybindings for changing raid group layout style |
| 09:31.16 | Zeksie | sec |
| 09:31.45 | Zeksie | make the type "item" instead of "spell" |
| 09:32.01 | Zeksie | then attribute "item", itemName |
| 09:32.02 | evl | it translates to /use ItemEquippedOrInInventory? |
| 09:32.38 | Zeksie | not sure |
| 09:32.48 | evl | I can experiment with that :) |
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| 09:33.34 | evl | I'm making a reminder addon that will show you X number of interactable addons based on rules like "BigWigs module Archimonde active but no Medallion of the Alliance equipped" |
| 09:33.57 | evl | s/addons based/buttons based/ |
| 09:34.53 | Zeksie | so equipment switching. you'll prolly have to fiddle with the target-slot attribute as well. not sure on that. take a look at ClosetGnome code for details |
| 09:35.10 | Arrowmaster | equipment switching isnt secure |
| 09:35.12 | evl | I'm starting with the basics, alerting you on stuff :) |
| 09:35.22 | evl | Like my favorite reminder rule: Using Blessed Medallion of Karabor but not using other Shadow Resistance items |
| 09:35.48 | evl | I had a 4 hour wipe session on Brutalus the other day with that medallion equipped, thus the idea ;) |
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| 09:40.10 | TheZanke | anyone else live in indiana? |
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| 09:42.40 | Orionshock | what addon uses Crb for addon prefix? |
| 09:43.52 | Zhinjio | is there like a "wingrep" type utility? |
| 09:44.00 | Zhinjio | find all occurrences of some string in all files in a directory? |
| 09:44.17 | Stanzilla | Notepad++ can do that |
| 09:44.48 | Zeksie | most text editors will do it |
| 09:44.54 | Zeksie | using UltraEdit atm |
| 09:45.02 | Zhinjio | checks... |
| 09:46.04 | Orionshock | does pally power have HealCom-2 embeded in? |
| 09:46.05 | Zhinjio | sweet. editplus does it too |
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| 09:48.37 | syeren | How can I find out the itemid for Medallion of the Alliance? |
| 09:49.07 | Zeksie | RatingBuster has an option to show item ids |
| 09:49.16 | Zeksie | or just do GetItemInfo("Medallion bla") |
| 09:49.27 | syeren | Bah, not in game :p |
| 09:49.32 | Zeksie | wowhead then |
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| 09:49.45 | Zeksie | use the get link and it'll have the ID after the Hitem: |
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| 09:49.52 | syeren | http://www.wowwiki.com/Medallion_of_the_Alliance |
| 09:49.59 | syeren | Ah okay. |
| 09:51.45 | Zhinjio | can one boss drop two of the same items? |
| 09:51.47 | Zhinjio | oh, sure |
| 09:51.50 | Zhinjio | tier items |
| 09:51.51 | Zhinjio | damnit |
| 09:52.08 | Zhinjio | thinks. |
| 09:52.23 | ramoz | i think its only tire items actually? |
| 09:52.38 | ramoz | ever seen nefarian drop two staffs of the shadowflame? |
| 09:52.39 | Zhinjio | yeah, won't do it for any of the other parts of the loot table. |
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| 09:52.49 | ramoz | illidan drop two shields? |
| 09:52.50 | Zhinjio | I do believe you're right. |
| 09:53.01 | Zhinjio | well, since I've never seen nefarion or illidan at all, no. |
| 09:53.03 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 09:53.10 | Zhinjio | but thats a different issue. |
| 09:54.18 | Zhinjio | thats actually something interesting. |
| 09:54.19 | [Liquidor] | Good morning everyone :-) Nice weather eh? |
| 09:54.24 | Zhinjio | I bet you the items have a unique id |
| 09:54.34 | Zhinjio | damnit. i have virtually no way to test this |
| 09:54.55 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: ping. |
| 09:55.00 | [Liquidor] | Good morning everyone :-) Nice weather eh? |
| 09:55.06 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 09:55.15 | Zhinjio | hey [Liquidor] |
| 09:55.23 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: we talked about this a long time ago |
| 09:55.30 | Zhinjio | now I'm getting tot he code that has to handle it |
| 09:55.33 | Zhinjio | specifically: |
| 09:55.49 | Zhinjio | if one boss drops two of the same tier token, will the two items have unique ids? |
| 09:56.10 | Xinhuan | i never checked, but i'll assume its different |
| 09:56.55 | dieck | Zhinjio: I don't know what you're up to, but you're afraid someone will end up with 3 similiar tokens? ;) |
| 09:57.02 | Arrowmaster | if your using the full itemlink they will be different even for token |
| 09:57.19 | Zhinjio | I am. |
| 09:57.23 | [Liquidor] | Arrowmaster, why's that? |
| 09:57.32 | Zhinjio | and that last bit the "uniqueid" will be the part thats different, right? |
| 09:57.32 | [Liquidor] | which arg is diff? |
| 09:57.32 | Arrowmaster | since the tokens have different uniqid fields in the links |
| 09:57.41 | Zhinjio | awesome. |
| 09:57.50 | Zhinjio | rock 'n' roll. then I can do this the right way |
| 09:57.51 | [Liquidor] | oh didn't know that existed but okay haven't really looked at itemlinks |
| 09:59.18 | Zhinjio | thats really good. |
| 09:59.24 | Zhinjio | I just need to think this all the way through then |
| 09:59.51 | Zhinjio | I would still like to store the mobGUID though, since I wanna use that for storing loot events |
| 10:00.01 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
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| 10:01.24 | Guillotine | btw, those uniqueid things are not necessarily unique for "of the ..." stuff |
| 10:01.33 | Guillotine | but *should* be for normal items |
| 10:01.55 | Guillotine | (It is used by some to calculate the amount of +... of each stat) |
| 10:02.08 | Guillotine | Specifically when the modifier is a negative (TBC suffix) |
| 10:02.40 | Zhinjio | nods |
| 10:02.55 | Zhinjio | this is almost always only going to apply for boss loot drops |
| 10:03.01 | Zhinjio | which are almost never "of the..." type items |
| 10:03.54 | Guillotine | right |
| 10:05.03 | Zhinjio | anyway, the main thing is guaranteeing uniqueness |
| 10:05.09 | Zhinjio | which I believe is always going to be the case |
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| 10:05.42 | dieck | except the Karazhan random boss items, they are of the ... items iirc? |
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| 10:05.57 | Zhinjio | which ones? |
| 10:06.00 | Zhinjio | animal bosses? |
| 10:06.03 | dieck | yes |
| 10:06.06 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 10:06.10 | Zhinjio | never done them, honestly |
| 10:06.13 | Zhinjio | are they greens or blues? |
| 10:06.16 | dieck | me neither |
| 10:06.18 | dieck | epics |
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| 10:06.28 | Zhinjio | looking in atlastloot now |
| 10:06.35 | dieck | Lurker's Cord / Grasp / Belt / Girdle e.g. |
| 10:06.47 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 10:06.48 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 10:06.50 | Arrowmaster | if the suffixid is 0 you can use the uniqid field to identify items as uniq |
| 10:06.55 | Zhinjio | you're right. |
| 10:07.03 | dieck | ...that drop epic-level items that can be worse than virtually any level-70 blue. They follow the pattern of green drops (of the Owl, of the Whale) |
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| 10:08.18 | what-K | good morning a question i look for an timestamp addon that uses the server time |
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| 10:09.21 | dieck | hm, I think prat uses the server time. At least the shown times are never equal to my pc clock :) |
| 10:09.32 | Zhinjio | I wrote my own |
| 10:09.36 | Zhinjio | to use in my addon. |
| 10:09.38 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 10:11.10 | what-K | yes prta can this |
| 10:11.20 | what-K | but i look only für timestamps |
| 10:11.25 | what-K | more not :( |
| 10:11.55 | dieck | hm, as I like the other features of prat, I haven't searched for anything else :) |
| 10:12.26 | Zhinjio | what-K: http://tinyurl.com/6r68f2 |
| 10:13.18 | what-K | Zhinjio sry but i cant wow scripting :( |
| 10:13.20 | dieck | hm, isn't os.clock/date the local time? not server time? |
| 10:13.38 | dieck | as the script is executed locally? |
| 10:13.56 | Zhinjio | what-K: use "Chatter" ... and only enable the timestamps moduel |
| 10:14.00 | Zhinjio | disable everything else |
| 10:14.17 | Zhinjio | dieck: I'm not certain |
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| 10:14.27 | Zhinjio | checking.. |
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| 10:15.26 | Zhinjio | yes, local time |
| 10:16.41 | Zhinjio | d'oh, Antiarc isn't here |
| 10:16.50 | what-K | Zhinjio chatter use local time too |
| 10:16.58 | Zhinjio | yeah, just noticed. sorry |
| 10:17.13 | Zhinjio | ChatMod is the only other one I know |
| 10:17.15 | Zhinjio | to try |
| 10:17.37 | Zhinjio | I'll ask Antiarc to add "server time" as an option |
| 10:17.43 | Zhinjio | should be in in a few days |
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| 10:22.26 | Olison | !usage #wow.stormreaver 1week |
| 10:24.29 | Olison | err |
| 10:24.30 | Olison | sorry |
| 10:28.35 | Zhinjio | which applies inside the fsr, spirit of mp5? I can never remember |
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| 10:29.30 | Ellipsis | mp5, talents can add some % of normal spirit regen as well |
| 10:30.07 | Zhinjio | thank you |
| 10:30.14 | Zhinjio | and spirit is only outside of fsr then |
| 10:30.14 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 10:30.22 | Zhinjio | I have no idea why I can never remember that |
| 10:30.31 | Zhinjio | maybe because I only ever a play a healapsmadin. |
| 10:30.35 | Zhinjio | and never leave fsr |
| 10:33.13 | Kaaosa | Bzzrt |
| 10:34.02 | CIA-38 | 03digby * r70307 10Yikes/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:34.02 | CIA-38 | Yikes: initial commit |
| 10:34.02 | CIA-38 | - Configurable boss key addon |
| 10:34.31 | dieck | i think only priests and druids can opt-in for spirit based reg in fsr´, right? Paladins and shamis are out? ;) |
| 10:35.46 | Kaaosa | As far as healers go, yeah, I think so |
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| 10:36.08 | Kaaosa | Don't mages have a talent or something for it? |
| 10:36.42 | dieck | hm, can any mana based dd get spirit bases reg in fsr? (and is there any abbreviation for "spirit based reg in fsr"? ;) |
| 10:37.49 | Kaaosa | Yeah, Mage Armor allows for 30% spirit based regen in fsr while active. |
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| 10:38.14 | dieck | uh |
| 10:38.31 | dieck | that's quite good, as "spirit based" is now also "int based" |
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| 10:38.55 | Kaaosa | Yeah |
| 10:40.32 | dieck | hm, I've done healpriest in my 60s and 70s, druid tanking in my 70s, now I want to level a dd for 80s :) hunter, lock or mage, but I'm still indetermined |
| 10:41.18 | dieck | oh, fc -- but maybe one of you has some advices, too :) |
| 10:41.20 | Kaaosa | I did hunter at 60 back in the day, have a lock now. I prefer the lock :P |
| 10:41.45 | SunTsu | dieck: Last time I could not decide was whether I should level a mage, a hunter, a rogue or a warlock. Now all four are lvl 66 and the first one will turn 67 today ;) |
| 10:42.27 | dieck | SunTsu: my rogue is 65, and I have a hunter on 70 who grinded up by farming stuff for my priest :) |
| 10:43.59 | SunTsu | dieck: After WotLK comes out I will simply continue to play them all for two levels after another ;) Sort of round robin, so they always are 150% rested when it's their turn |
| 10:44.14 | Kaaosa | I want to have a 70 rogue but I just can't stand to level one :\ |
| 10:45.33 | dieck | oh, leveling the rogue was fun, and I plan to use him as pvp char, but I think I'll have to start abusing coffeine, every time I watch rogue videos I can't even THINK how fast they move, jump and circle around their enemies :) |
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| 10:59.09 | CIA-38 | 03digby * r70308 10Yikes/: |
| 10:59.09 | CIA-38 | Yikes: |
| 10:59.09 | CIA-38 | - |
| 11:02.02 | ramoz | nice commit |
| 11:03.14 | Zhinjio | does looting something force you to target the corpse. I think it does, doesn't it |
| 11:03.59 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 11:04.05 | Wogroipl_ | I think so Zhinjio |
| 11:04.27 | Zhinjio | thats gonna save me having to get the guid through some whacky means. |
| 11:04.32 | Zhinjio | I'll assume it for now |
| 11:04.38 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: thanks. |
| 11:04.41 | Ellipsis | sheesh, do you guys even play :P |
| 11:05.11 | Zhinjio | I do. |
| 11:05.54 | Zhinjio | some things just don't ... whatever, register on radar, I guess |
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| 11:14.55 | Zhinjio | is it possible for one part of a chat message to be in one font, and the latter part a different one? |
| 11:15.02 | Zhinjio | example: timestamps |
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| 11:15.38 | Zhinjio | I suspect not |
| 11:17.07 | Ellipsis | no |
| 11:17.13 | Ellipsis | the entire chat frame shares a font |
| 11:17.31 | Ellipsis | you'd have to do some crazy stuff like overlaying extra font strings outside the frame if you wanted to change that |
| 11:17.45 | Zhinjio | yeah, that'd be stupid. |
| 11:23.00 | Wogroipl_ | ugh, smartres is missing library instance of Sharedmedia-1-0 |
| 11:23.16 | Ellipsis | fail |
| 11:23.56 | Wogroipl_ | it has a subfolder libs\Sharedmedia-1.0\Sharedmedia-1.0.lua |
| 11:26.08 | haste | having the file doesn't imply it loads it |
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| 11:27.20 | Wogroipl_ | I understand that, but do you have any idea how to make it work again? |
| 11:27.27 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning all |
| 11:27.31 | Ellipsis | tell the author to stop failing |
| 11:27.32 | Wogroipl_ | mornin' |
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| 11:37.17 | syeren | How can I find the path to an icon? |
| 11:37.20 | syeren | For example, Kick. |
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| 11:38.34 | ramoz | Wogroipl_: you can check in embeds.xml and see if its mentioned there |
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| 11:42.08 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: /dump GetSpellInfo("Barkskin") where Barkskin = spell name ^^ |
| 11:42.57 | syeren | It comes up as () in my chat log [SW]Dodge :p |
| 11:43.20 | [SW]Dodge | then try "Kick()" instead of "Kick" |
| 11:44.07 | Zhinjio | ok, question |
| 11:44.14 | syeren | 12:41:21 ()12:41:26 ()12:42:29 ()12:42:40 () |
| 11:44.16 | syeren | Same again :p |
| 11:44.39 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: do oyu have the ability?^^ |
| 11:44.44 | syeren | No :p |
| 11:44.52 | syeren | I need to know for Afflicted -_- |
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| 11:45.16 | [SW]Dodge | use /dump GetSpellInfo(1766) or doubleclick the icon @ http://wowhead.com/?spell=1766 :D |
| 11:46.29 | Zhinjio | alright, thats was more than a little bit freaky |
| 11:46.34 | Zhinjio | anyway, my question is this.... |
| 11:46.45 | Zhinjio | a user can request a list of my plugin. |
| 11:46.55 | Zhinjio | which, in a raid, could return a list of up to 25 people (# raiders) |
| 11:47.07 | Zhinjio | in order be sane about the returned whispers |
| 11:47.19 | Zhinjio | what do you think is a valid method of returning an ordered list that could be that long? |
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| 11:48.03 | JoshBorke | by name |
| 11:48.09 | syeren | Thanks [SW]Dodge :) |
| 11:48.25 | Zhinjio | maybe I could just return the 5 in the list around the whisperer and then the number above and below that list |
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| 11:48.42 | Zhinjio | like: |
| 11:48.51 | Zhinjio | (there are 5 potential bidders above this list) |
| 11:48.54 | Zhinjio | 18: foo |
| 11:48.57 | Zhinjio | 22: bar |
| 11:49.00 | Zhinjio | 28 : YOU! |
| 11:49.05 | Zhinjio | 32 : natch |
| 11:49.08 | Zhinjio | 48 : blah |
| 11:49.16 | Zhinjio | ( there are 10 potential bidders below this list) |
| 11:49.17 | Zhinjio | or something |
| 11:50.04 | Zhinjio | maybe always showing top bidder as well |
| 11:50.04 | Zhinjio | hmmm |
| 11:50.43 | Ellipsis | the solution is obviously cake |
| 11:51.43 | dieck | just concat the list to a comma seperated string? |
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| 11:52.44 | CIA-38 | 03jerry * r70309 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: Grid: GridFrame instance is not the Grid Unit frame. |
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| 11:56.59 | Zhinjio | dieck: very messy |
| 11:57.20 | JoshBorke | is this for anotehr function or for presentation to teh user? |
| 11:57.26 | Zhinjio | presentation to user |
| 11:57.31 | JoshBorke | put it in a frame |
| 11:57.36 | Zhinjio | can't |
| 11:57.41 | Zhinjio | the user may not be running the addon |
| 11:57.41 | JoshBorke | why not? |
| 11:57.56 | Zhinjio | the just whispered the person who IS guaranteed to be running the addon for data |
| 11:58.08 | Zhinjio | if they're running the addon, they probably would never whisper for it, since they already have it |
| 11:58.15 | JoshBorke | you want someone to get some number stat for each person in the raid |
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| 11:58.27 | Zhinjio | yes, position in the current loot rolling list |
| 11:58.53 | Zhinjio | if they're running the addon, they already have that data |
| 11:59.00 | Zhinjio | this is for people who aren't running it |
| 11:59.01 | JoshBorke | you could fit 10 people per line imo |
| 11:59.10 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 11:59.26 | JoshBorke | 7-Bob, 8-fred, 23-jane |
| 11:59.44 | JoshBorke | let the user whipser how many people he wants returned |
| 12:00.21 | Zhinjio | like "suicide 10" or something |
| 12:00.23 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 12:00.51 | JoshBorke | and if they want it centered on someone they could do: suicide fred 5 |
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| 12:02.15 | Zhinjio | I'm throwing this up on the blog and asking for feedback. We'll see what the users wants *grin* |
| 12:02.29 | Zhinjio | So rarely does my perception of what users want actually match what they want. |
| 12:02.30 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 12:02.35 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 12:02.40 | Zhinjio | sadly |
| 12:02.57 | Tularis | people actually bother reading your blog ? :O |
| 12:02.58 | Zhinjio | I think for now, I'm just going to return whispers, 5 names per line. |
| 12:03.01 | Zhinjio | to keep it easy |
| 12:03.06 | Zhinjio | the blog for the plugin? |
| 12:03.07 | Zhinjio | yes. |
| 12:03.12 | Tularis | wow |
| 12:03.30 | Zhinjio | I didn't realize how many people really use this thing until I put that up |
| 12:03.41 | Zhinjio | 200+ users registered, lots of comments and feedback |
| 12:03.45 | Zhinjio | from maybe a dozen users |
| 12:03.50 | Zhinjio | but they all read and post regularly |
| 12:04.37 | Zhinjio | I should have probably used a forum instead of a blog, but ... well, I was lazy, and blogs are 10 minutes to setup. |
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| 12:15.17 | evl | Say I have a custom button that inherits SecureActionButtonTemplate, I presume there is no way to hide/show it during combat based on a generic callback function? |
| 12:15.31 | Bruners | Zhinjio: what thing? |
| 12:20.09 | Zhinjio | Bruners: huh? |
| 12:20.50 | Bruners | Zhinjio: that 200+ registered users are using |
| 12:21.06 | Zhinjio | SuicideKings |
| 12:21.16 | Zhinjio | I'm doing a rewrite of the original |
| 12:21.29 | Zhinjio | I started maintaining it when the old dev stopped about a year ago |
| 12:21.40 | Zhinjio | SuicideKingsGeo or SKG is my version |
| 12:24.46 | FtH|Daemona | Xinhuan how expensive performance wise is it to enable gatherhud only if a tracking aura is active? |
| 12:25.11 | Xinhuan | you mean, to add code that toggles it on/off? |
| 12:25.34 | FtH|Daemona | well you would have to check if a tracking aura for a gathering profession is active. |
| 12:25.48 | Xinhuan | the checking is trivial, and uses no CPU time |
| 12:25.54 | FtH|Daemona | like, save the keybinding and toggle on active profession aura |
| 12:26.02 | Xinhuan | because you only need to check on tracking aura change, which is a specific event |
| 12:26.31 | Xinhuan | they added this event when they implemented tracking auras into a minimap button |
| 12:26.32 | FtH|Daemona | and probably add some dont toggle if switching between two gathering auras |
| 12:26.54 | Xinhuan | like tracking AH, bank, inns and whatnot |
| 12:27.07 | FtH|Daemona | wonders how much more he has to hint with the flag pole at a feature request ;) |
| 12:27.08 | Xinhuan | so tracking herbs, ore, etc is all part of it now |
| 12:27.31 | Xinhuan | it will be at least a week (8 days) before i accept any feature requests |
| 12:27.40 | Xinhuan | as i have to finish my final year project :) |
| 12:28.11 | Xinhuan | (i'm surprised people use gatherhud, does it really help at all? you still need to stare at the minimap for the yellow blips) |
| 12:28.58 | Zhinjio | Zeksie: ping |
| 12:30.17 | Bruners | why dont volley take charges of MD |
| 12:32.14 | FtH|Daemona | Xinhuan if you dont use cartographer and lack that nifty arrow, yes you use gatherhud ;) |
| 12:32.58 | Xinhuan | next weekend, expect a version to support tomtom :) |
| 12:33.06 | dieck | I'm using cartographer routes, and yes, I have to look at the minimap for blips :) But i shortens my ways flying around :) |
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| 12:33.22 | Xinhuan | dieck, delete carto_routes please |
| 12:33.26 | Xinhuan | get Routes instead |
| 12:33.45 | Xinhuan | i should add a annoying reminder to carto_routes saying that every 10 minutes |
| 12:33.58 | cladhaire | heh |
| 12:34.15 | Xinhuan | hey every software does it nowadays |
| 12:34.20 | dieck | hm, Cartographer Routes works fine with me, is it deprecated, or do you just suggest changing to an alternative? |
| 12:34.31 | Xinhuan | it is deprecated in favour of Routes |
| 12:34.36 | dieck | k |
| 12:34.39 | Lywellyn | Xinhuan: Yes, because you see IE going "OMG I suck so bad, get Firefox instead" :p |
| 12:34.43 | Xinhuan | Routes does everything carto_routes does, with 2 features |
| 12:35.06 | Zhinjio | *grump* my latest font selection is not playing nice with my addon |
| 12:35.09 | Xinhuan | 1. node clustering (take nodes near each other and collapse them to a single travel point) |
| 12:35.10 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 12:35.24 | Zhinjio | I'm going to have to change the fonts on this one panel at least. |
| 12:35.25 | dieck | Xinhuan: that's a nice addition |
| 12:37.13 | SunTsu | dieck: Switch to Routes, really, it's definitively woth it |
| 12:37.23 | SunTsu | worth even |
| 12:37.26 | dieck | :) |
| 12:37.37 | dieck | I'll try to remember when I get home |
| 12:37.40 | dieck | still at work here |
| 12:37.51 | Xinhuan | 2. taboo regions (mark polygonal regions for your routes to ignore, such as enemy towns, islands, caves) |
| 12:37.51 | Xinhuan | routes will then NOT create routes with nodes in those regions, and will not cross those regions |
| 12:37.51 | Xinhuan | theres a 3rd feature: routes will use data from cartographer, gatherer and gathermate, or all 3 of them |
| 12:37.51 | Xinhuan | you can't import routes from carto_routes to routes, but its fairly trivial to recreate them |
| 12:38.01 | Xinhuan | you get better routes simply because of the node collapsing |
| 12:38.07 | Xinhuan | much shorter routes basically |
| 12:38.56 | dieck | i have 2 routes (herb + mining) per outland map, should be no problem to recreate them |
| 12:39.30 | Xinhuan | there's actually a algorithm error in routes (and carto_routes) |
| 12:39.34 | Xinhuan | i need to fix it next week |
| 12:39.56 | dieck | the traveling salesman algorithm? |
| 12:40.00 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 12:40.03 | dieck | pita, that thing :) |
| 12:40.10 | Xinhuan | i didn't apply global pheromone evaporation in the algorithm, which means the routes created are slightly worse than it should be ;p |
| 12:40.22 | dieck | try to make it work in P, would get you lots of money :) |
| 12:40.24 | Xinhuan | i only just noticed this like 2 days ago |
| 12:41.31 | Xinhuan | because i'm writing a final year peoject report for this algorithm ~_~ |
| 12:41.55 | dieck | master studies in computer science? |
| 12:42.15 | Xinhuan | nah, just a bach degree |
| 12:43.10 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 12:43.20 | Zhinjio | I think my crash bug is being caused by an eventfilter that I added |
| 12:43.22 | Zhinjio | that sucks |
| 12:43.28 | dieck | you'll get a Dr hc for making it work in polynomial efficency :) |
| 12:44.39 | Xinhuan | technically ACO is a polynomial algorithm, using metaheuristic approach |
| 12:45.17 | Xinhuan | a true solving exploring every possiblt solution is (2^n * n^2) using dynamic programming |
| 12:45.19 | Billi_ | hi guys - just committed my first addon - yay :) - and it's appearing in WAU as Outdated. Any suggestions as to how I make it Not Installed or whatever? |
| 12:45.41 | Zhinjio | anyone have any idea why using ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
| 12:45.42 | Xinhuan | delete it from your wow folder |
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| 12:45.49 | Xinhuan | then it wont' be "installed" |
| 12:45.56 | Zhinjio | would cause a crash if you're returning true on your whisper to yourself? |
| 12:46.05 | Zhinjio | does that sounds realistic? |
| 12:46.19 | Billi_ | I'm looking on a friend's computer and it's Outdated. Would rather it was like the others |
| 12:46.36 | Silviu- | ~seen vhaarr |
| 12:46.41 | purl | vhaarr <n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 1h 53m 41s ago, saying: 'Zeksie: it won't do that if you define your Mount set correctly'. |
| 12:46.42 | Zhinjio | damnit this is pissing me off. |
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| 12:47.42 | Zhinjio | actually, nm. it can't be the bid filter. |
| 12:48.33 | [Liquidor] | Any addon switching to rep you recently gained? |
| 12:48.35 | Zhinjio | is it invalid to send message to in whisper to yourself? |
| 12:48.36 | Zhinjio | no. nm |
| 12:48.40 | Zhinjio | grrrr |
| 12:51.16 | Tularis | ofc it's not :P |
| 12:51.21 | Tularis | never tried doing it? :) |
| 12:51.35 | Tularis | or had bigwigs "warn" yourself of something... |
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| 12:51.41 | dieck | [Liquidor]: I'm using "dynamic rep bar" or something like that |
| 12:51.57 | dieck | [Liquidor]: is somewhat older, but works fine |
| 12:52.17 | Zhinjio | XPBarNone does that as well |
| 12:52.23 | Tularis | Billi_: is the toc at 24000 ? |
| 12:52.41 | Zhinjio | also, FactionFu will switch your rep display based on what zone you're in (if you want it to) |
| 12:53.10 | Billi_ | Hmmm.. 20400 but I'd just copied that from Proximo which seems fine. Is it 24000? |
| 12:53.46 | Zhinjio | 20400 |
| 12:54.34 | Zhinjio | 20400 is correct |
| 12:54.41 | Billi_ | kk |
| 12:54.42 | Zhinjio | make sure you completely reload after |
| 12:54.44 | ncd|Aileen | pokes Silviu-. |
| 12:54.51 | Zhinjio | if you changed the TOC, that is |
| 12:54.55 | Silviu- | sneezes in F'ncd|Aileen's face |
| 12:55.07 | CIA-38 | 03jerry * r70310 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: |
| 12:55.07 | CIA-38 | Grid: |
| 12:55.07 | CIA-38 | _ Remove duplicate code in :CreateFrames(). |
| 12:55.07 | CIA-38 | _ Only setup initial-width and initial-height when creating the frame. |
| 12:55.12 | Billi_ | No - always been 20400. will do a commit but there are no changes |
| 12:55.24 | Zhinjio | nods. |
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| 12:58.14 | CIA-38 | 03digby * r70311 10Yikes/Yikes.toc: |
| 12:58.14 | CIA-38 | Yikes: |
| 12:58.14 | CIA-38 | - Commit |
| 12:59.07 | CIA-38 | 03trasher * r70312 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 12:59.07 | CIA-38 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:59.07 | CIA-38 | - frFR update |
| 12:59.13 | CIA-38 | 03trasher * r70313 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.en.lua: |
| 12:59.13 | CIA-38 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:59.13 | CIA-38 | - enEN update |
| 13:01.25 | dieck | Billi_: the addon name sounds like another Bäm-mod :) |
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| 13:02.42 | CIA-38 | 03trasher * r70314 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 13:02.42 | CIA-38 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:02.42 | CIA-38 | - frFR update |
| 13:07.52 | CIA-38 | 03trasher * r70315 10Antagonist/Locals/frFR.lua: |
| 13:07.52 | CIA-38 | Antagonist: |
| 13:07.52 | CIA-38 | - frFR update |
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| 13:09.54 | CIA-38 | 03ananhaid * r70316 10Parrot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:09.54 | CIA-38 | Parrot: |
| 13:09.54 | CIA-38 | -Locale: zhTW update,frFR pre-update(missed locale). |
| 13:09.54 | CIA-38 | -Code: typo check. |
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| 13:14.29 | Zhinjio | I need help. |
| 13:14.32 | Zhinjio | this sucks. |
| 13:14.52 | Zhinjio | I've managed to do something (and its easily repeatable) that forces my client to hang |
| 13:15.09 | Zhinjio | is there *anywhere* I can look to see wtf it was doing last? |
| 13:15.22 | Zhinjio | my debug code that I had to throw messages out to the chat frame never show up |
| 13:15.45 | Zhinjio | even though some code manages to execute after that (I see output on other toons' screens indicating it was still doing stuff) |
| 13:16.11 | Zhinjio | I have Ctrl-Alt-Del, kill process to make it go away |
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| 13:16.27 | Elkano | check the loops in your code |
| 13:16.51 | Zhinjio | you think its looping forever? Hmm. |
| 13:17.13 | Elkano | happend to me |
| 13:17.24 | Zhinjio | I would have thought it would have showed me at least some of the debug messages ... but ok. I'll check. |
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| 13:22.25 | Zhinjio | this is happening in, unfortunately, my longest bit of code |
| 13:22.46 | Zhinjio | there's lots of loops here, but I can't see how any of them would be non-terminating. |
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| 13:25.25 | Zeksie | Zhinjio ? |
| 13:26.27 | Zhinjio | heya. |
| 13:26.49 | Zeksie | you pinged |
| 13:27.02 | Zhinjio | uh... I'm getting a zomgbuffs error trying to hook something in WIM? |
| 13:27.18 | Zhinjio | is that possible, or are things not playing nice together on my machine atm |
| 13:27.31 | Zhinjio | I can pastey after I reload if its helpful |
| 13:27.39 | Zeksie | works fine on my wifes WIM atm, i don't use it myself |
| 13:27.50 | Zeksie | sure. do that |
| 13:28.36 | Zhinjio | standby |
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| 13:30.09 | Zhinjio | Zeksie: http://www.pastey.net/85972 |
| 13:31.12 | Zeksie | did you delete WIM folder by any chance when at char select or something? |
| 13:32.22 | Zeksie | nm. will check for it actually being loaded in future, rather than it thinking it 'should' be loaded |
| 13:32.48 | Zeksie | IsAddOnLoaded() can return 1 at times, even when a mod is not really loaded |
| 13:33.41 | Zhinjio | the onther possible relevant piece of data is that I"m using a beta WIM atm to help test something out |
| 13:34.19 | Zhinjio | I am running WIM, and it is loaded. |
| 13:34.27 | Zeksie | a different funciton set, so yeah. that would break it too |
| 13:34.36 | Zhinjio | maybe he changed the name of a function on you? *grin* |
| 13:34.44 | Zeksie | hopefully, the new WIM will utilize ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter instead of hooking stuff |
| 13:34.53 | Zeksie | then there's no need for any hooks |
| 13:34.56 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 13:35.01 | Zhinjio | so cool. sorry to bug you then |
| 13:35.06 | Zeksie | np |
| 13:36.12 | CIA-38 | 03parnic * r70317 10IceHUD/modules/TargetInfo.lua: |
| 13:36.12 | CIA-38 | IceHUD: |
| 13:36.12 | CIA-38 | - updated the TargetInfo default dogtag by request |
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| 13:36.33 | CIA-38 | 03zeksie * r70318 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Better pre-checking of WIM and Cellular before trying to hook them. |
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| 13:39.55 | CIA-38 | 03digby * r70319 10Yikes/Yikes.toc: |
| 13:39.55 | CIA-38 | Yikes: |
| 13:39.55 | CIA-38 | - Updated toc |
| 13:40.30 | FtH|Daemona | i bet our guild alchemist uses hacks :/ http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1462/proccdh5.jpg |
| 13:40.47 | nevcairiel | i had streaks like that too |
| 13:40.48 | Vulcanus | find me the hacks and give me them |
| 13:40.52 | Olison | x3! |
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| 13:44.56 | Pkekyo| | when nickserv asks me to release my nick...I always feel like I'm entering launch codes for NORAD or something :/ |
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| 13:47.46 | Zyndrome | you probably are... hold on the news says Peru just got hit by a nuke... |
| 13:48.09 | Bruners | peru ? |
| 13:48.12 | Bruners | for real? |
| 13:48.39 | SunTsu | Are the bugs finally attacking? |
| 13:48.44 | evl | Goldshire stank, like cheap sex and the ego of newbs. |
| 13:49.25 | Kirkburn | boggles at Bruners |
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| 13:56.44 | kilrogg | One question ... can PlayMusic(<filename>); only play local media or is it able to play web-streams as well ? |
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| 13:57.24 | durcyn | kilrogg: PlaySound/PlayMusic will accept MPQ paths as well |
| 13:57.58 | Mera | is now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (logon pageron) |
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| 13:58.53 | CIA-38 | 03ananhaid * r70320 10Parrot/Parrot.toc: |
| 13:58.53 | CIA-38 | Parrot: |
| 13:58.53 | CIA-38 | - zhTW update. |
| 14:01.01 | Apoco | ~ |
| 14:01.14 | Apoco | ~ping |
| 14:01.15 | purl | pong |
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| 14:03.32 | Apoco | ~ping |
| 14:03.33 | purl | pong |
| 14:03.35 | Apoco | wtf |
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| 14:09.34 | Kirkburn | Apoco, what's confusing about that? |
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| 14:12.22 | Vulcanus | Can SetAttribute() on a frame not make the frame become crtl+click to cast? |
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| 14:25.23 | Zhinjio | weeps openly. |
| 14:25.58 | lhunath | hands Zhinjio a cookie. |
| 14:26.19 | FtH|Daemona | adds a glass of milk. |
| 14:29.32 | Zhinjio | I just added in like.... a dozen checks to make sure I was not looping unterminated. |
| 14:29.36 | Zhinjio | still crashed. |
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| 14:30.13 | Zhinjio | there's nothing worse than just hanging there... listening the creaks of the sound engine still pushing stockades noises at you... and your client is dead. |
| 14:30.41 | Zhinjio | my tears are making all the cell doors creaky |
| 14:30.43 | Zhinjio | heh |
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| 14:31.26 | FtH|Daemona | what are you trying to do anyway? |
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| 14:31.46 | FtH|Daemona | gmornin' ckk |
| 14:32.46 | Zhinjio | I can pastey the code... but I'm not sure its gonna make sense to anyone else. ... |
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| 14:33.02 | ben | Worth a try |
| 14:33.03 | ckknight | morning, FtH|Daemona |
| 14:33.07 | ckknight | how are you today? |
| 14:33.24 | FtH|Daemona | ooh so motivated, cause its already 4:30pm and weekend;) |
| 14:33.49 | ckknight | where are you? |
| 14:34.00 | JJSheets | where the hell did thursday go? |
| 14:34.03 | Zhinjio | http://www.pastey.net/85973 |
| 14:34.20 | Zhinjio | I have a feeling its actually happening in the procedure I'm calling the list line of that. |
| 14:34.43 | Zhinjio | I'm looking through that function now |
| 14:34.45 | Apoco | is there a way to change a multiselect to make a dropdown box instead of the toggles in AceConfig3? style="dropdown" doesn't work -_- |
| 14:34.59 | Xinhuan | Apoco: answer is, no |
| 14:35.10 | FtH|Daemona | germany ;) |
| 14:35.13 | Apoco | bleh |
| 14:35.20 | Apoco | failure |
| 14:36.07 | CIA-38 | 03parnic * r70321 10IceHUD/IceUnitBar.lua: |
| 14:36.07 | CIA-38 | IceHUD: |
| 14:36.07 | CIA-38 | - fixed a bug with the low health flashing frame if alphas are set to 0 |
| 14:37.31 | Zhinjio | omg |
| 14:37.35 | Zhinjio | i found it. |
| 14:38.00 | FtH|Daemona | cheers at Zhinjio |
| 14:38.07 | JJSheets | golfclaps |
| 14:38.14 | Zhinjio | and Elkano was right... unterminated loop |
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| 14:38.35 | Zhinjio | I think I will celebrate by eating fruit loops. |
| 14:38.40 | FtH|Daemona | goes and checks the pastey for > where it should be >= |
| 14:38.42 | FtH|Daemona | grins. |
| 14:38.49 | Zhinjio | its actually not in the pastey. heh |
| 14:38.56 | Zhinjio | its in the function I called in the last line of the pastey |
| 14:39.14 | Zhinjio | which means I spent like an hour restructuring the code in the pastey for .... no reason at all. |
| 14:39.17 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 14:39.35 | JJSheets | lmao been there done that |
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| 14:39.56 | Zhinjio | it should be structurally the same anyway |
| 14:40.06 | Zhinjio | so ... all I've lost is time. |
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| 14:41.41 | lhunath | Zhinjio: https://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/index.html - send yourself a note. |
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| 14:46.08 | SunTsu | Great, my first steps into writing a FuBar addon are going fine. It even is loaded without an error. The down side is, it doesn't show up. But hay, you can#t have everything ;) |
| 14:47.08 | Psycho | Once I wrote an addon called "invisibleaddon". It didn't take up any screen space, or memory, or even disk space on your hard drive. It was completely invisible. I bet you're running it now. |
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| 14:48.45 | Elkano | <3 port 113 (ident) |
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| 14:58.00 | CIA-38 | 03belazor * r70322 10Cryolysis2/ (17 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:58.00 | CIA-38 | Cryolysis2: |
| 14:58.00 | CIA-38 | - Added option to toggle between Shift and Alt for middle-click "emulation". |
| 14:58.00 | CIA-38 | - Crtl-click option not working, commented out for now. |
| 14:58.54 | charon | Psycho: if you try to patent that, i'll claim prior art in /dev/null at 1970 the latest |
| 14:59.21 | CIA-38 | 03Gothwin * r70323 10BigWigs_TwinsSay/: BigWigs_Twinsay: - New Module |
| 14:59.54 | CIA-38 | 03jjsheets * r70324 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_ButtonTypes.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Pet Actions now are not always grayed out as if unusable. |
| 15:00.18 | FtH|Daemona | TwinsSay = "I gonna get Conflag" ? |
| 15:00.28 | Psycho | charon: I released it under the GPL |
| 15:00.45 | CIA-38 | 03jjsheets * r70325 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 15:00.45 | CIA-38 | ButtonFacade: |
| 15:00.45 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:01.35 | charon | Psycho: clever. does that mean everyone who started with an empty file and wrote a program, needs to release it under the terms of the GPL? |
| 15:01.54 | Psycho | I figure we'd all be a lot better off that way. |
| 15:02.00 | CIA-38 | 03jjsheets * r70326 10StatBlocks_DogTag/StatBlocks_DogTag.lua: StatBlocks_DogTag: I can't stand it anymore... fixed a bug on line StatBlocks_DogTag.lua:55. "Unit" should be before the kwargs table... |
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| 15:06.56 | charon_ | ~seen charon |
| 15:06.58 | purl | charon <n=thomas@vpn-global-dhcp3-229.ethz.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5m 23s ago, saying: 'Psycho: clever. does that mean everyone who started with an empty file and wrote a program, needs to release it under the terms of the GPL?'. |
| 15:07.29 | CIA-38 | 03Gothwin * r70327 10BigWigs_TwinsSay/ (BigWigs_TwinsSay.lua BigWigs_TwinsSay.toc): BigWigs_TwinsSay: - First Stable Version of BigWigs_TwinsSay Addon, for automatic personal warnings (via say and screen) during The Eredar Twins Encounter |
| 15:08.23 | charon | Antiarc: some perspective on that CLEU handler change: i measured a couple thousand events by punching the immortal mobs in blasted for gt;30min, seems the table way is about 12% faster (unless i've overlooked a variable in this setup) |
| 15:09.00 | charon | s/gt;/>/ |
| 15:09.31 | charon | thinks his wlan and purl conspire against him |
| 15:09.37 | ulic | if warnings are displayed via say are they really personal? |
| 15:09.44 | Xinhuan | what did you change charon |
| 15:10.24 | charon | Xinhuan: rewrote the chained if event == "spell_blah" elseif ... to a table lookup |
| 15:10.26 | charon | (on my branch that is) |
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| 15:10.34 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 15:10.57 | Xinhuan | well, table lookup is "on average" faster if there's more than 9 chained-elseifs |
| 15:11.05 | Xinhuan | it also depends on the order of the elseifs |
| 15:11.10 | Xinhuan | and their probabilities of occuring |
| 15:11.33 | Delorala | damn... is there something up with grid? |
| 15:11.51 | Xinhuan | chained-ifs can be faster if they are ordered by the probabilities with the highest being on top (usually MELEE_SWING and SPELL_CAST_START?) |
| 15:11.52 | Delorala | yesterday i set it to not show groups at all |
| 15:11.56 | Vulcanus | xinhuan is like the EJ of addon coding XD |
| 15:11.58 | Delorala | now in raid i cant get them back |
| 15:12.16 | Delorala | no matter what layout i activate - no groups show up |
| 15:12.37 | Xinhuan | so measuring how fast it is by punching something for 30 minutes isn't very accurate |
| 15:12.58 | charon | all the more reason to change it :P |
| 15:13.12 | charon | because the old code, in fact, had melee attacks by the player as the very first branching point |
| 15:13.44 | Xinhuan | i have an idea, go take a /combatlog of a typical raid or instance |
| 15:13.50 | charon | i couldn't think of a better test unfortunately, in a raid setting there are far more variables coming from syncing etc |
| 15:13.52 | Xinhuan | and parse the occurances out |
| 15:14.01 | Xinhuan | of each event |
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| 15:14.11 | Xinhuan | and rearrange the chained-ifs accordingly |
| 15:14.18 | CIA-38 | 03funkydude * r70328 10BigWigs_EredarThreat/ (. BigWigs_EredarThreat.lua BigWigs_EredarThreat.toc): |
| 15:14.18 | CIA-38 | BigWigs_EredarThreat: Going from private to public release. Addon to show: |
| 15:14.18 | CIA-38 | - Lady Sacrolash Threat Position 2 |
| 15:14.18 | CIA-38 | - Grand Warlock Alythess Threat Position 3 |
| 15:14.18 | CIA-38 | Requires raid members to run an updated Threat-2.0 and BigWigs |
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| 15:19.08 | CIA-38 | 03zeksie * r70329 10GrimReaper/ (GrimReaper.lua Locales/localization.lua): |
| 15:19.08 | CIA-38 | GrimReaper: |
| 15:19.08 | CIA-38 | - Fixed alignment issues with the time display when scale is changed. |
| 15:19.08 | CIA-38 | - Added option to display the health bars inside the frame. |
| 15:20.11 | JJSheets | Well, I'm off to work. see ya later. |
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| 15:23.29 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: I like the KalecgosPortals stuff in EredarThreat :D |
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| 15:23.41 | Funkeh` | it was a quick hack |
| 15:23.45 | Funkeh` | as was kalecgosportals |
| 15:24.06 | Funkeh` | they are both available to anyone who wants to maintain them |
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| 15:26.51 | Zhinjio | oh blah |
| 15:27.16 | Zhinjio | unordered numberically indexed list #ListName isn't guaranteed to do anything useful, is it |
| 15:27.46 | ckknight | it'll give the length if the numbers go from 1 to n |
| 15:27.54 | ckknight | but if there's nils in the middle, you'll get bad results |
| 15:27.57 | Zhinjio | unordered ... with gaps |
| 15:28.01 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 15:28.18 | Ozguli` | odd, I can't connect to files.wowace.com |
| 15:28.31 | Ozguli` | probably just me |
| 15:28.33 | CIA-38 | 03belazor * r70330 10Cryolysis2/ (16 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:28.33 | CIA-38 | Cryolysis2: |
| 15:28.33 | CIA-38 | - It's spelled Ctrl not Crtl :( |
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| 15:32.44 | Vulcanus | I can't believe I've spelled Ctrl wrong for 5 years now :( |
| 15:33.07 | charon | Xinhuan: some filtering seems to say that roughly a quarter of yesterday's log are never handled inside threat |
| 15:33.09 | |Pixel| | nice one :) |
| 15:33.23 | charon | also, shame on you for luring me into such tests when i should be doing real work instead. |
| 15:33.23 | Xinhuan | hmmm? why is that so |
| 15:34.06 | Xinhuan | so you're saying that 1/4 of all the possible events pass thru the entire if-else chain and then nothing happens? |
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| 15:35.02 | Elkano | omg, there is a Dragonball RL movie? |
| 15:35.14 | Polarina | I use tables for event handling. The index is the event's name and the value is a function. :) |
| 15:35.22 | syeren | Yes Elkano :p |
| 15:35.47 | Polarina | s/tables/a table/ |
| 15:36.41 | charon | Xinhuan: SPELL_CAST_START, mob->mob messages, mob->player attacks, and misc messages add up |
| 15:37.03 | Xinhuan | that makes sense |
| 15:37.20 | charon | did i say shame on you? |
| 15:37.28 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 15:37.34 | charon | in fact, the old handler tested the flags first, but that's a lot of bit.band() work |
| 15:37.38 | Xinhuan | hey at least we gained a better understanding now |
| 15:37.57 | Xinhuan | how does threat-2.0 handle a knockback spell that takes away some aggro? |
| 15:37.58 | charon | OTOH the table lookup filters the event first and usually only does a single flag check afterwards |
| 15:38.12 | Xinhuan | such as at void reaver |
| 15:40.09 | charon | via the NPC module which is an entirely different business |
| 15:40.16 | Xinhuan | i'm interested mainly because i did quite a bit of debugging on omen pre-2.4, but very little after 2.4, due to irl |
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| 15:40.48 | charon | now that you mention it, that one also handles CLEU, but only has like 6 branches |
| 15:40.59 | charon | well, make that 4 |
| 15:41.18 | Xinhuan | hmm, a table lookup vs if-checking-all-4-branches for 99% of events |
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| 15:41.51 | Xinhuan | which do you think is better? heh |
| 15:42.21 | CIA-38 | 03funkydude * r70331 10BigWigs_EredarThreat/ (. BigWigs_EredarThreat.lua): BigWigs_EredarThreat: bugfix |
| 15:42.57 | charon | isn't that, by your statement about the 9 branches, just about the case in which they're the same? :P |
| 15:43.37 | Gintroll | hi, i'M gettin some errors with the latest version of atlasloot in wau, maybe someone can have a look at http://ace.pastey.net/85975-4cii |
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| 15:44.06 | Xinhuan | should be |
| 15:44.07 | Gintroll | using deDE client |
| 15:44.17 | Xinhuan | the "9 branches" is a number quoted off tekkub i think ;p |
| 15:44.25 | Xinhuan | i haven't done any real testing |
| 15:44.40 | charon | Xinhuan: however by looking at the actual handler, perhaps that could gain a bit of performance too if i switched the logic to test event=="blah" first and bit.band(flags,...) later |
| 15:44.57 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 15:45.00 | charon | i've done that precise test last week and came up with "about 9" too |
| 15:45.12 | Xinhuan | equally tests are always faster than bittests in lua i think |
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| 15:45.26 | Xinhuan | because bit_band() is a function call |
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| 15:45.55 | Polarina | Xinhuan: In some cases, you can use the modulus operator instead of bit_band. |
| 15:46.17 | Xinhuan | that's a bit of a stretch ;p |
| 15:46.26 | Xinhuan | and makes code really hard to read |
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| 15:47.16 | Polarina | x % 2 ^ 17 -- Me wants first 17 bits. |
| 15:47.30 | Elkano | syeren, did you mean the new or the old one? |
| 15:47.51 | syeren | One is schedule for release next year ;p |
| 15:48.15 | Elkano | well, it seems like there's one from 1989, too |
| 15:48.26 | Elkano | http://badmovies.de/index.php/Dragonball:_The_Magic_Begins |
| 15:48.28 | Xinhuan | modulus only works if you want all of the lower bits though |
| 15:49.01 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Thus, the "some". :) |
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| 15:49.19 | charon | you could always divide out the rest if you need to... but meh that's almost as good as inlining bit.band |
| 15:49.20 | Xinhuan | but yeah, i see improvements can be made by the rearrangement |
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| 15:50.50 | Xinhuan | charon, some of the bit.bands can be combined too |
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| 15:50.50 | Xinhuan | like |
| 15:50.50 | Xinhuan | bit_band(srcFlags, REACTION_ATTACKABLE) > 0 and bit_band(srcFlags, NPC_TARGET) > 0 |
| 15:50.51 | Xinhuan | is done on every event |
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| 15:51.11 | Xinhuan | but you could just precompute (REACTION_ATTACKABLE & NPC_TARGET) |
| 15:51.18 | Xinhuan | and do a single bit_band() on that result |
| 15:51.27 | Polarina | bit_band(srcFlags, REACTION_ATTACKABLE, NPC_TARGET) > 0 |
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| 15:51.33 | Xinhuan | yeah that's even better |
| 15:51.40 | Xinhuan | forgot you can do that |
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| 15:52.07 | ckknight | hey all, I finally added a close button to Cart3 |
| 15:52.10 | ckknight | and a nice border |
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| 15:52.35 | ckknight | :-) |
| 15:52.45 | Xinhuan | so charon, combine those too :) |
| 15:52.47 | Polarina | ckknight: *cheer* |
| 15:52.50 | charon | i will, good point |
| 15:52.52 | Chaud | a close button? |
| 15:52.55 | Chaud | MADNESS. |
| 15:52.59 | ckknight | yea, to actually close the map |
| 15:52.59 | charon | no other candidates though |
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| 15:53.12 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: are there pre-defined routes for routes? |
| 15:53.17 | Xinhuan | ackis no |
| 15:53.29 | AckisWork | awww... so much for training my cat to herb/mine for me :( |
| 15:53.30 | Xinhuan | predefined routes is the last thing i want in routes ;p |
| 15:53.44 | Xinhuan | don't want 1000 people following the same route |
| 15:53.49 | AckisWork | that's fair enough |
| 15:53.51 | Silverstorm | Predefined anything but where the nodes are is just bloated anyway :-p |
| 15:54.04 | Silverstorm | because everyone has their own idea of what should be predefined |
| 15:54.24 | AckisWork | nah I'm just lazy and was hoping for an easy solution |
| 15:54.31 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Make a pre-defined route, have your personal route different (and the optimal route). |
| 15:55.01 | Polarina | Xinhuan: And forget what I just said. |
| 15:55.11 | Xinhuan | you don't make any sense hehe |
| 15:55.38 | Polarina | Xinhuan: IRC doesn't have a "undo" feature. |
| 15:56.18 | AckisWork | chaud: we got twins down to 9% last night |
| 15:56.32 | Chompers | aq40? |
| 15:56.34 | Chompers | :P |
| 15:56.35 | Chaud | hawt hawt |
| 15:56.41 | AckisWork | lol chompers :P |
| 15:56.44 | Polarina | Chompers: The Sunwell. |
| 15:56.53 | Chaud | I got a free domain yesterday ackis |
| 15:56.56 | Silverstorm | bah, we can barely get Kalecgos to 50% without tanks dying :( |
| 15:57.02 | Chaud | I was going to put your picture there as a placeholder |
| 15:57.03 | AckisWork | how so? |
| 15:57.06 | AckisWork | sweet! |
| 15:57.13 | AckisWork | i posted that photoshop on my guild forums |
| 15:57.14 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:57.31 | Chaud | dotster gave away 500 domains |
| 15:57.40 | Chaud | so I registered urbad.net |
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| 15:58.15 | Elkano | oh, Ackis, you made it in here? :) |
| 15:58.29 | AckisWork | yah I did, mibbit is working great Elkano :) |
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| 15:59.32 | Elkano | btw: have you looked into the issue when you first have a long list of missing recipes shown and then a short and the old entries aren't getting pruned first? |
| 16:00.05 | AckisWork | i thought i had fixed that tbh |
| 16:00.31 | Elkano | well, haven't checked if it's still in the last few days so maybe it is ^^ |
| 16:01.18 | AckisWork | it wouldn't have been the last few days... so basically you open up tradeskill 1, it displays 20 entries. You rescan with tradeskill 2 and it only has 10 missing recipes, so it displays those 10, plus the second 10 from the first tradeskill? |
| 16:01.35 | Psycho | Oh grate, Guild Leader just got hacked. |
| 16:01.55 | Elkano | yes, that was what happend |
| 16:02.00 | Polarina | Psycho: Your guild leader doesn't have common sense. |
| 16:02.37 | AckisWork | ok, I'll check the reset code on that... I noticed some funky things with it that I wanted to review anyways |
| 16:02.38 | Psycho | Clearly anyone who picks up a keylogger has no common sense. He runs firefox and an antivirus/antispyware program, he just didn't take it far enough. |
| 16:02.41 | charon | Xinhuan: btw after re-thinking this twice: bit_band(srcFlags, REACTION_ATTACKABLE) > 0 and bit_band(srcFlags, NPC_TARGET) > 0 cannot be factored... neither a&b&c nor a&(b|c) are the same as (a&b) && (a&c) |
| 16:03.02 | Psycho | Saying it's a matter of common sense is an enormous eyeroll. |
| 16:03.23 | Elkano | AckisWork, ok, it's still bugged |
| 16:03.23 | sylvanaar | i got the keylogger which was in incgamers updater |
| 16:03.32 | sylvanaar | a year ago |
| 16:03.47 | Xinhuan | err wait |
| 16:04.32 | Elkano | AckisWork, also when you hit close you have to hit scan zwice to reshow |
| 16:04.46 | Elkano | and closing the trdeskill doesn't close ARL |
| 16:05.02 | sylvanaar | or wait - maybe it was a fake addon which their updater installed somehow. |
| 16:05.04 | Gnarfoz | the term "hacking" is mis-used a lot these days |
| 16:05.07 | Xinhuan | are you sure (a&b) > 0 and (a&c) > 0 cannot be refactored into a&(b&c) > 0? |
| 16:05.10 | AckisWork | the closing the tradeskill doesn't close ARL is a feature lol |
| 16:05.12 | Polarina | charon: a & (b & c) |
| 16:05.24 | [SW]Dodge | can someone tell me why to use do-end blocks? or tell me in which chapter in pil i can find information about it? |
| 16:05.31 | Xinhuan | notice we aren't taking out the > 0 |
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| 16:06.27 | Xinhuan | it really is just: bit_band(srcFlags, REACTION_ATTACKABLE, NPC_TARGET) > 0 |
| 16:06.35 | pastamancer | [SW]Dodge: do/end lets you limit the scope of local variables |
| 16:06.36 | Polarina | charon: No, the 'a & (b | c)' should work... |
| 16:06.41 | sylvanaar | [SW]Dodge it lets you scope variables for just that block |
| 16:06.52 | Xinhuan | oh its | for the b|c |
| 16:06.56 | Elkano | AckisWork: if I close ARL before switching tradeskill it clears the old entries |
| 16:07.09 | [SW]Dodge | sylvanaar, pastamancer: thanks :) |
| 16:07.19 | Silverstorm | I think i agree with charon, they aren't the same |
| 16:07.28 | Elkano | AckisWork, ok if it's a feature, maybe add an option ;) |
| 16:07.32 | Xinhuan | "(a&b) > 0 and (a&c) > 0" is "a&(b|c) > 0" right? |
| 16:07.38 | Polarina | charon: So you can effectively do: bit_band(srcFlags, REACTION_ATTACKABLE + NPC_TARGET) |
| 16:07.48 | AckisWork | Elkano: Ahhh ok, so you're closing the tradeskill, and leaving the ARL window open... something I didn't consider actually... and I can add the option easy enough |
| 16:07.54 | sylvanaar | other than name collisions does it solve any other issues? |
| 16:08.11 | Elkano | AckisWork: no |
| 16:08.52 | Elkano | or I misunderstand you |
| 16:08.55 | Silverstorm | in binary: a = 110, b = 100, c = 001. a&b = 100, a&b = 000 a & (b|c) = 100. Both b & c aren't checked in that case, though they're both set |
| 16:09.30 | Silverstorm | that second a&b should be a&c = 000 |
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| 16:09.48 | AckisWork | Elkano: if you close the ARL window, then switch trade skills do you get that overlapping recipe issue? |
| 16:09.57 | Elkano | no |
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| 16:10.12 | AckisWork | but if you leave the ARL window open, you do get the overlapping skills? |
| 16:10.34 | Elkano | yes, though I didn't close the tradeskill when switching |
| 16:10.57 | AckisWork | ok yah I think that's an easy fix |
| 16:11.28 | sylvanaar | pastamancer http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10473.msg205152#msg205152 |
| 16:11.43 | charon | Polarina: well i'm not going to argue over this, just try it for a few examples. it breaks down even in the fairly restricted (in the sense that b&c == 0) use case we have |
| 16:11.55 | charon | also, a&(b&c) == (a&b)&c. |
| 16:12.05 | gix | pastamancer: is there any specific reason why grid doesn't accept a color table for the center icon? i'm using solid-colored textures in my kalecgos plugin and had to hack grid for that. |
| 16:12.33 | Xinhuan | btw, does lua run ~= 0 faster than > 0 ? |
| 16:12.54 | pastamancer | gix: because the center icon is a texture |
| 16:13.03 | Vulcanus | isn't ~= the same as "not equals"? |
| 16:13.06 | charon | Xinhuan: i've been wondering whether numbers and strings are interned all along |
| 16:13.18 | Xinhuan | numbers probably aren't |
| 16:13.21 | charon | if they are, ~= is an address compare and thus faster |
| 16:13.34 | gix | pastamancer: yes. and a texture can also show a solid color if you feed it with 3 (or 4) values. |
| 16:13.43 | charon | even python interns small integers |
| 16:13.44 | Xinhuan | string probably are interned as addresses, so its still a number comparison |
| 16:14.33 | Xinhuan | what's the constant for REACTION_ATTACKABLE |
| 16:14.59 | charon | try your favourite editor's backwards search :) |
| 16:15.07 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 16:15.22 | pastamancer | gix: I never thought about using it for just a solid color |
| 16:16.31 | charon | anyway, i need to catch a train |
| 16:16.32 | CIA-38 | 03trasher * r70333 10Antagonist/Locals/frFR.lua: |
| 16:16.33 | CIA-38 | Antagonist: |
| 16:16.33 | CIA-38 | - frFR update |
| 16:16.39 | charon | (have i mentioned "shame" yet?) |
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| 16:18.29 | Xinhuan | in any case can possibly convert those > 0 to ~= 0 without ill effects |
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| 16:20.57 | p3lim | what is CombatFeedbackText ? |
| 16:21.10 | Xinhuan | blizzard's scrolling combat text addon ;p |
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| 16:21.27 | p3lim | aha |
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| 16:21.31 | AckisWork | sfw: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/mitsu_1ggsx/spanknpie.gif |
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| 16:21.34 | p3lim | that makes sense |
| 16:24.22 | VonhintenHOME` | where is that from Ackis? |
| 16:24.30 | AckisWork | lol not sure, someone posted it on our guild forums |
| 16:24.58 | VonhintenHOME` | That dude will be lucky if he ever gets laid again, after that hotty is done with him |
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| 16:25.27 | AckisWork | lol |
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| 16:32.06 | pastamancer | gix: http://ace.pastey.net/85979 |
| 16:35.09 | gix | nice |
| 16:35.35 | AckisWork | you can't detect if a debuff is on a target with a macro correct? |
| 16:36.03 | pastamancer | gix: try that out and let me know how it works for you |
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| 16:40.23 | Zhinjio | my god. I think I'm ready for beta |
| 16:40.32 | Funkeh` | no you're not |
| 16:40.36 | Funkeh` | you're in wowace |
| 16:40.40 | Zhinjio | yeah, you're probably right. |
| 16:40.46 | Zhinjio | but still... I have to start somewhere |
| 16:40.55 | Funkeh` | you start at beta? :D |
| 16:42.03 | Zhinjio | no |
| 16:42.04 | Industrial | im ready for WAR beta but I aint gettin any :p |
| 16:42.12 | Zhinjio | alpha was closed alpha |
| 16:42.16 | Zhinjio | this will be open beta |
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| 16:43.35 | CIA-38 | 03zhinjio * r70334 10/branches/SKG/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:43.35 | CIA-38 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 16:43.35 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.35 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.35 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:43.57 | sylvanaar | YES |
| 16:44.10 | sylvanaar | WAR Beta cannot come soon enough |
| 16:44.43 | Funkeh` | orly |
| 16:44.59 | sylvanaar | i think open beta is in june |
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| 16:46.01 | Srosh | Any news about their addons system? They do have one, don't they? |
| 16:46.27 | sylvanaar | word of mouth said it was lua based, but that could be bs |
| 16:46.44 | AckisWork | WAR? |
| 16:47.28 | sylvanaar | i heard that - note the disclaimer though |
| 16:49.02 | Srosh | NDAs should be illegal. :P |
| 16:49.16 | Chaud | l2betaleaks |
| 16:49.20 | Chaud | warhammer looks awful |
| 16:49.37 | AckisWork | oh so WAR = warhammer kk |
| 16:50.10 | Mera | does a few time havent checked my war beta axx, they are doing boring focus tests |
| 16:50.13 | Srosh | Ye, "Warhammer Age of Reckoning" - what a pun. :P Tho "WoW" ain't better in that regard. |
| 16:50.29 | CIA-38 | 03trasher * r70335 10Antagonist/Data/Cooldowns.lua: |
| 16:50.29 | CIA-38 | Antagonist: |
| 16:50.29 | CIA-38 | - cooldown for Bash (drood) is now 60 sec (before is 300) |
| 16:50.37 | AckisWork | lmao didn't know it's full name |
| 16:50.43 | Srosh | I'm sure they just chose "Age of Reckoning" so they could use WAR as acronym. |
| 16:51.07 | Mera | but game isnot ready for open beta june for sure |
| 16:51.24 | Srosh | Must've been a pretty funny brainstorming meeting - "ok, guys, listen up. We want 'WAR' as acronym; any suggestions?" :D |
| 16:51.29 | Chaud | it is like an awful wow |
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| 16:54.53 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: ping |
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| 16:58.35 | gix | pastamancer: well, when i hacked it myself i just checked type(texture)=="color". but if you want to use color when texture is nil you have to change the check in GridFrame.StatusForIndicator |
| 17:01.58 | evl | I can't seem to run :Hide() and :Show() on SecureActionButtonTemplates, have I missed somethong? |
| 17:02.01 | evl | something |
| 17:02.36 | Josh_Borke | evl: are you in combat? |
| 17:02.43 | evl | no |
| 17:03.05 | evl | im disabling the function when player regen stops |
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| 17:04.22 | balstor | epeen question, does wowacs keep download counts for addons? |
| 17:04.34 | chexsum | ugh @ harddrive errors on another comp |
| 17:04.44 | chexsum | i hate puters |
| 17:05.05 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70336 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 17:05.05 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:05.06 | CIA-38 | - Code optimization |
| 17:05.06 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
| 17:05.16 | AckisWork | ping Zhinjio |
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| 17:09.53 | Funkeh` | AckisWork, I tested ARL last niht and it sucked |
| 17:09.57 | Funkeh` | fix it |
| 17:10.04 | Funkeh` | night* even |
| 17:10.06 | AckisWork | :( |
| 17:10.15 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 17:10.20 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 17:10.26 | FtH|Daemona | shoo's Funkeh`. |
| 17:10.28 | durcyn | AckisWork: you're supposed to reply "I tested your mom last night and she sucked" |
| 17:10.30 | AckisWork | afk toasterbath |
| 17:10.34 | Funkeh` | hohoho |
| 17:10.43 | AckisWork | nah she blew |
| 17:10.45 | Funkeh` | durcyn wins |
| 17:11.02 | Xinhuan | i have this grand idea, that Funkeh` should checkout AckisWork's code, make some optimizations and then commit it :) |
| 17:11.16 | AckisWork | oh god, he'd be there forever |
| 17:11.17 | FtH|Daemona | fetches popcorn and a coke. |
| 17:11.48 | AckisWork | first comment from him would probably be: wtf are you using crayon? |
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| 17:12.03 | Xinhuan | wtf are you using crayon? |
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| 17:12.10 | CIA-38 | 03stormfx * r70337 10ButtonFacade_Template/ (4 files): |
| 17:12.10 | CIA-38 | ButtonFacade_Template: |
| 17:12.10 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.10 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.11 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.17 | Xinhuan | deletes ARL |
| 17:12.21 | AckisWork | i like the name :P |
| 17:12.24 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:12.26 | durcyn | better than "wtf are you writing this in crayon" though |
| 17:12.31 | tri | dunno if this is the correct place to ask but; my omen keeps resetting its position every time I log in. anyone know why? |
| 17:12.37 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 17:12.44 | kenlyric | same thing, imo |
| 17:12.50 | Funkeh` | tri, using vista? |
| 17:12.55 | tri | nope, xp pro |
| 17:12.56 | Xinhuan | where does it reset to tri? |
| 17:12.58 | Chompers | Tri, run wow in admin mode |
| 17:13.03 | Chompers | oh, never mind |
| 17:13.07 | Funkeh` | ~fail Chompers |
| 17:13.07 | purl | Chompers, you Fail! |
| 17:13.07 | AckisWork | i'm not allowed to use pens because the doctors say they're too sharp |
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| 17:13.25 | tri | well, it doesn't "reset" as such, it just moves itself up like 300 pixels or so |
| 17:13.38 | Funkeh` | tri, try logging out of wow and delete your omen saved variables |
| 17:13.46 | tri | ok |
| 17:13.58 | tri | gimme a sec |
| 17:14.20 | Xinhuan | do you use an external addon like eepanels to reposition it? |
| 17:14.31 | VonhintenHOME` | omen's positioning can be a little flakey, especially if you tell it to collapse |
| 17:14.34 | tri | yes |
| 17:14.38 | Xinhuan | that would be the issue |
| 17:14.42 | Funkeh` | Why is it when you WANT someone to spam gold you can't get them? |
| 17:14.47 | tri | i do use eepanels |
| 17:14.48 | Funkeh` | Sitting in shattrath for 30min now... |
| 17:14.58 | tri | in fact, this problem started when I started using eepanels :D |
| 17:14.59 | Xinhuan | Omen stores its own location of where you last moved it to |
| 17:15.00 | VonhintenHOME` | IF is the place for gold spam |
| 17:15.03 | durcyn | Funkeh`: go to ironforge |
| 17:15.04 | tri | anyone to fix that? |
| 17:15.08 | tri | any way** |
| 17:15.09 | Xinhuan | this means that if another addon like eepanels moves it |
| 17:15.13 | Xinhuan | then omen doesn't know or care about it |
| 17:15.13 | Funkeh` | durcyn, being horde, that would be a bad idea |
| 17:15.20 | Chaud | is there any easy way to generate a list of addons without including libs |
| 17:15.20 | durcyn | Funkeh`: nah, go to ironforge |
| 17:15.22 | CIA-38 | 03stormfx * r70338 10ButtonFacade/Skins/ (DreamLayout.lua Zoomed.lua): |
| 17:15.22 | CIA-38 | ButtonFacade: |
| 17:15.22 | CIA-38 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.22 | Funkeh` | infact, I like that idea |
| 17:15.31 | Xinhuan | so when you next login, omen restorses its position to where it last remembers YOU moved it to |
| 17:15.31 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` i bet its cause you installed BadBoy ;) |
| 17:15.35 | Xinhuan | and not where eepanels moved it to |
| 17:15.37 | tri | I see |
| 17:15.38 | tri | yeah |
| 17:15.47 | VonhintenHOME` | go to the horde equivalent of IF then :) |
| 17:15.49 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona, yeah but Im testing auto reporting now |
| 17:15.52 | tri | that makes sense - so I've gotta look for an option in eepanels to stop it repositioning other addons? |
| 17:15.54 | Xinhuan | and no, omen is unlikely to be updated to take into account of eepanels |
| 17:15.56 | Funkeh` | and I need someone to spam to test it |
| 17:15.56 | FtH|Daemona | auto-reporting? |
| 17:16.05 | FtH|Daemona | naaa i like the button clicking |
| 17:16.07 | Funkeh` | yeah, so I can ak in shattrath and not need to click ok |
| 17:16.08 | Xinhuan | you'll just have to figure out something |
| 17:16.17 | FtH|Daemona | only thing i wondered if it queued stuff if you get 2 spams before you click |
| 17:16.19 | Funkeh` | alt tab |
| 17:16.24 | Funkeh` | nope |
| 17:16.52 | Xinhuan | Funkeh`, shattrath is probably the worst place for gold spam |
| 17:17.01 | Xinhuan | go to a city in the old world like orgrimmar |
| 17:17.04 | tri | ahah! |
| 17:17.08 | FtH|Daemona | yeah, OG between bank and auctionhose |
| 17:17.09 | FtH|Daemona | you win |
| 17:17.11 | Xinhuan | that's where level 1s can run to at least, for gold spamming |
| 17:17.14 | tri | i found an option, Xinhuan, "Dynamic Frame Fix" |
| 17:17.17 | tri | I'll disable it |
| 17:17.19 | Xinhuan | they typically use /yell or /say |
| 17:17.35 | durcyn | Funkeh`: btw, how do you feel about Heroism/Bloodlust in CommonAuras? |
| 17:17.58 | Funkeh` | cd's somewhat long for my liing tbh |
| 17:18.02 | Funkeh` | liking* |
| 17:18.06 | durcyn | same as the repairbot bar >_> |
| 17:18.15 | Funkeh` | isn't it 15min |
| 17:18.18 | durcyn | 10 |
| 17:18.43 | Xinhuan | wut, repair bots needs a bar??? |
| 17:18.56 | Xinhuan | /chortles |
| 17:19.01 | durcyn | it's in CommonAuras, don't ask me =P |
| 17:19.15 | tri | ok - i have one more issue... it's with omen's text colour. when I set it to white, it turns pink |
| 17:19.20 | tri | and yellow turns red |
| 17:19.31 | Xinhuan | which bar is this tri? |
| 17:19.39 | tri | tha grro bars |
| 17:19.42 | tri | aggro** |
| 17:19.56 | Funkeh` | no bots on org |
| 17:19.58 | Funkeh` | omg |
| 17:20.10 | FtH|Daemona | just commit it |
| 17:20.14 | Funkeh` | durcyn, I'll leave that out for the moment |
| 17:20.18 | FtH|Daemona | i reported 10+ in the last hour |
| 17:20.23 | FtH|Daemona | i'll update and report to you |
| 17:20.30 | Funkeh` | pfft |
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| 17:21.16 | Xinhuan | are you referring specifically to the "aggro 130%" bar? |
| 17:21.26 | tri | no, all the "Label" bar text |
| 17:21.33 | FtH|Daemona | you could try stormwind on tarren mill enGB, was there to chat with a friend yesterday Funkeh` ... its worse over there |
| 17:21.41 | tri | yellow turns red, blue remains blue, green turns black |
| 17:21.42 | tri | and so on |
| 17:22.01 | tri | white is pink |
| 17:22.18 | Zeksie | someone doing erm... rbb instead of rgb |
| 17:22.27 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` should have come over to me to destromath, here we go, another reported |
| 17:22.38 | Xinhuan | hold on tri |
| 17:22.39 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona, lol |
| 17:22.43 | tri | oki |
| 17:22.44 | Funkeh` | maybe I should learn german also |
| 17:22.46 | FtH|Daemona | requests a highscore counter that is synced for the zone ! |
| 17:22.50 | nevcairiel | we rarely get bots anymore |
| 17:22.54 | nevcairiel | but then again |
| 17:22.59 | nevcairiel | i dont generally visit IF/SW |
| 17:23.05 | tri | font: arial, size: 15, outline: outline |
| 17:23.09 | nevcairiel | and bots dont go to shat or darnassus |
| 17:23.09 | tri | if that's of any relevance |
| 17:23.16 | Funkeh` | wohoo! |
| 17:23.16 | durcyn | Antiarc: ping |
| 17:23.17 | Funkeh` | it works |
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| 17:23.26 | FtH|Daemona | cheers |
| 17:23.29 | Gnarfoz | MaxStats doesn't, tho |
| 17:23.31 | FtH|Daemona | commit so i can update ! |
| 17:23.32 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 17:23.46 | FtH|Daemona | or no... i want to click that button, gives me a feeling of ... of ... power ! |
| 17:23.57 | nevcairiel | what button? |
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| 17:24.08 | FtH|Daemona | BadBoy ! |
| 17:24.34 | Hjalte | oRA2 doesn't have the feature to set up an invite keyword anymore? |
| 17:24.42 | nevcairiel | Hjalte: works fine for me |
| 17:24.46 | CIA-38 | 03xinhuan * r70339 10Omen/Config.lua: Omen: Fix Omen label colors. It was not saving the green component, being mistyped as the blue one. |
| 17:24.48 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.51 | FtH|Daemona | of course Hjalte |
| 17:24.53 | Xinhuan | there tri, fixed, files.wowace.com will have the fix within 1 to 20 minutes |
| 17:24.59 | Hjalte | Ah, I just couldnt find it yesterday :) |
| 17:25.00 | tri | oh |
| 17:25.03 | tri | awesome, thanks |
| 17:25.26 | FtH|Daemona | fubar -> ora2 -> invite -> keyword |
| 17:25.59 | CIA-38 | 03funkydude * r70340 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: |
| 17:25.59 | CIA-38 | BadBoy: |
| 17:25.59 | CIA-38 | - Add Auto reporting! Peaceful AFK is back, to switch to manual edit the lua AUTO_REPORT to false at line 6 |
| 17:25.59 | CIA-38 | - Add to blacklist, tweak blacklist |
| 17:25.59 | CIA-38 | - Slight throttle increase |
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| 17:26.28 | Xinhuan | anymore omen issues to report? ^^ |
| 17:27.00 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70341 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 17:27.00 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:27.00 | CIA-38 | - Code optimization |
| 17:27.00 | CIA-38 | - Fix for collapsed headers thanks to Thaoky |
| 17:27.00 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
| 17:27.18 | AckisWork | wow 2 sets of code optimization AND a bugfix today... gg |
| 17:27.27 | tri | hmm.. well this isn't really an issue, as such, i'm probably being a tard, but I've set "Number of bars to show" to 13 - and it shows 13 for all modes except single-target mode |
| 17:27.51 | Xinhuan | how many does it show then? ;p |
| 17:27.56 | tri | which it shows 11 aggro labels (not including the title) |
| 17:28.11 | Xinhuan | do you show the aggro 130% bar? |
| 17:28.16 | tri | yes |
| 17:28.18 | Xinhuan | i think that's a known issue |
| 17:28.21 | tri | oh right |
| 17:28.35 | tri | so if I disable the aggro 130% bar, it'll be fine? |
| 17:28.36 | Xinhuan | or at least, someone reported that |
| 17:28.43 | Xinhuan | if you don't show the aggro bar, it shows one less |
| 17:28.45 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 17:28.53 | Xinhuan | rather than 1 more |
| 17:28.57 | tri | oh |
| 17:28.59 | tri | odd |
| 17:28.59 | tri | :P |
| 17:29.18 | VonhintenHOME` | gees, that's gotta be a 1min fix |
| 17:29.32 | tri | hmm, well then... everything's sorted. i'll look out for that update and let you know if it works (regarding the text colour) |
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| 17:30.30 | Elsia | heya |
| 17:30.40 | AckisWork | howdy |
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| 17:31.34 | CIA-38 | 03elsia * r70342 10StatBlocks_Recount/StatBlocks_Recount.lua: |
| 17:31.34 | CIA-38 | StatBlocks_Recount: |
| 17:31.34 | CIA-38 | - Fixed width to be able to hold default string and max icon size. |
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| 17:31.42 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: http://ace.pastey.net/85959 you can fix that if you want :P |
| 17:32.03 | Xinhuan | diaf Stanzilla ;p |
| 17:32.08 | tri | |
| 17:32.09 | Xinhuan | maybe i'll fix that Next week |
| 17:32.11 | Stanzilla | nevaaarrr :D |
| 17:32.33 | Xinhuan | that line contains return a.guid > b.guid |
| 17:32.46 | Xinhuan | and i dont' even know if both are supposed to be strings, or numbers |
| 17:33.18 | CIA-38 | 03elsia * r70343 10Recount/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:33.18 | CIA-38 | Recount: |
| 17:33.18 | CIA-38 | - Added selectable number formats (standard, thousands commas or short) to bar text options. |
| 17:33.27 | tri | yeah, disabling "Dynamic Frame Fix" in eePanels2 sorted the issue of omen moving position every time i logged in |
| 17:33.33 | tri | just in case anyone else has that problem |
| 17:33.35 | AckisWork | I have a table foo, filled with lots of data, and sub-tables. If I go foo=nil does that mean the memory will be reclaimed in a gc, or do I have to parse the table and set everything to nil inside it (and what about the sub-tables of the table) |
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| 17:34.05 | VonhintenHOME` | that dumps the whole table |
| 17:34.09 | Xinhuan | each table is its own table |
| 17:34.18 | Xinhuan | subtables are just memory address references to it |
| 17:34.22 | Xinhuan | so its just a 4 byte value |
| 17:34.55 | Xinhuan | when you go foo=nil, that entry is niled, the memory isn't really reclaimed afaik |
| 17:35.11 | pastamancer | gix: ah, I think I understand what you were trying to do. That makes more sense |
| 17:35.23 | VonhintenHOME` | garbage collector should know that there's nothing referencing that memory anymore and dump it |
| 17:35.28 | AckisWork | so http://ace.pastey.net/85985 is the way to go when you're done with a table? |
| 17:35.28 | Hjalte | Elsia: I think there are some trouble with the new "Keep Only Boss Segments". |
| 17:35.47 | Hjalte | Elsia: I was having it enabled, but somehow it didnt save the boss fight anyhow (was at least supremus in BT) |
| 17:36.21 | VonhintenHOME` | Ackis, I know next to nothing about lua, but that would be surprising to me, if you had to do that |
| 17:36.40 | VonhintenHOME` | That would defeat the whole point of a garbage collector |
| 17:36.46 | Xinhuan | Stanzilla, i have an idea you can repeat that right? |
| 17:36.48 | Xinhuan | that error |
| 17:36.50 | Hjalte | Elsia: I couldn't even select the boss fight singlehandedly, I was only able to see Overall data, no matter if i picked current fight or fight 1 |
| 17:36.50 | pastamancer | gix: more like http://ace.pastey.net/85987 ? |
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| 17:37.00 | AckisWork | I know nothing about lua either ;) |
| 17:37.19 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona, http://i27.tinypic.com/fd4vtt.jpg |
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| 17:37.35 | Elsia | Hjalte: think there is a general problem with segmentation, not related to the boss toggle. that one is really simple |
| 17:37.39 | Elsia | i'll check into it |
| 17:37.45 | Xinhuan | Elsia, does UnitGUID() return a string? |
| 17:37.52 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: yeah |
| 17:37.53 | Poul|Raider1 | is it posible to do some kind of timer in macro, so it write something after 30sec without useing any addon? |
| 17:37.54 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` where is the highscore `? |
| 17:38.05 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 17:38.06 | Hjalte | Elsia: Hmm, there might be some general problems too, I just only really noticed it with boss toggle turned on :) |
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| 17:38.19 | Xinhuan | Stanzilla, can you add a line before the error line that prints out the values of a.guid and b.guid |
| 17:38.32 | FtH|Daemona | Poul|Raider1 if you are running ace addons you most probably have that lib that supplies the "/in" command |
| 17:38.41 | Elsia | Hjalte: yeps I'll check |
| 17:38.47 | Xinhuan | i.e ChatFrame1:AddMessage(a.guid..", "..b.guid) |
| 17:38.49 | Poul|Raider1 | as said, without any addon daemona :D |
| 17:38.50 | Poul|Raider1 | but oki |
| 17:38.51 | FtH|Daemona | so you can "/in 30 /p drums over NEXT" |
| 17:38.58 | FtH|Daemona | oow |
| 17:39.02 | FtH|Daemona | completely without? |
| 17:39.04 | FtH|Daemona | g15 ;) |
| 17:39.19 | Poul|Raider1 | :D |
| 17:39.28 | VonhintenHOME` | Ackis, http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.10 |
| 17:39.32 | Poul|Raider1 | but oki, the /in is a ace lib |
| 17:39.34 | Poul|Raider1 | thx |
| 17:39.57 | FtH|Daemona | dont ask me which, i am running quite some libs, but everyone i suggested adding it for a macro had it ;) |
| 17:40.03 | Xinhuan | then tell us what it says in the chatframe just before the error |
| 17:40.11 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` which lib supplies the /in command? ;) |
| 17:40.21 | Funkeh` | ace2 |
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| 17:40.48 | FtH|Daemona | see Poul|Raider1 almost too easy, so anyone with a ace2 based addon can do it ;) |
| 17:42.07 | AckisWork | ahh so foo=nil will automagically gc it |
| 17:42.55 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, but if you have other variables that reference tables within it, those tables may not be GC'd |
| 17:43.30 | VonhintenHOME` | (may not, but really they shouldn't) |
| 17:45.13 | AckisWork | well when I nuke the tables nothing should be referencing it anymore |
| 17:45.21 | VonhintenHOME` | right |
| 17:45.27 | gix | pastamancer: yup, that's what i did |
| 17:45.33 | VonhintenHOME` | unless you did something inadvertently |
| 17:46.07 | VonhintenHOME` | the manual references some stuff about modifying the metatable's __mode to create weak references, but sounds like you're not doing that |
| 17:48.25 | Poul|Raider1 | anyone know what lib the /in command is in? |
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| 17:48.56 | FtH|Daemona | 19:40Â… @Funkeh`: ace2 |
| 17:49.56 | Noct1 | What's another frame I can addmessage to on top that has larger text? Since I can't figure out a way to change the size of UIErrormessage |
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| 17:50.16 | Poul|Raider1 | ahh |
| 17:50.19 | Poul|Raider1 | know waht file |
| 17:50.23 | Poul|Raider1 | would like to see the code |
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| 17:51.09 | gix | Noct1: you could use those for zone titles |
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| 17:51.27 | Noct1 | Do you know the name of that frame, off hand? |
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| 17:55.48 | balstor | grumble grumble, wowiki needs an enemia taken to it |
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| 17:56.19 | CIA-38 | 03zhucc * r70344 10Chatter/ (Chatter.toc Localization/zhTW.lua): Chatter: zhTW update |
| 17:56.25 | gix | Noct1: apparently it's bunch of fontstrings |
| 17:57.14 | AckisWork | i wonder if I should consider removing whitespace as a code optimization |
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| 17:57.50 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70345 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 17:57.50 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:57.50 | CIA-38 | - More code optimization |
| 17:57.51 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
| 17:57.52 | gix | Noct1: maybe this works: ZoneTextString:SetText("...") FadingFrame_Show(ZoneTextFrame) |
| 17:57.53 | Funkeh` | hates whitespace |
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| 17:58.11 | AckisWork | lol Funkeh' |
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| 17:58.25 | chdst | hateswhitespacetoo. |
| 17:58.46 | AckisWork | I'm doing so many dry-coded changes I'm going to get home and see that ARL doesn't work, and causes the PC to blow up |
| 17:58.58 | Noct1 | Thankya, I'll check. |
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| 18:02.23 | FtH|Daemona | grz AckisWork you just blew up my pc... |
| 18:02.56 | Psycho | I don't even have WoW on this computer and it's still formatting my hard drive and raping my firstborn child. |
| 18:03.10 | AckisWork | cheers |
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| 18:03.15 | AckisWork | Now, to take over the world! |
| 18:03.17 | FtH|Daemona | AckisWork http://ace.pastey.net/85989 |
| 18:03.18 | AckisWork | muhahahhahahahha |
| 18:03.33 | Psycho | I knew lua would always end up being something dark and sinister. |
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| 18:03.56 | AckisWork | ty for the pastey |
| 18:04.04 | FtH|Daemona | AckisWork thats from clicking the button 4 times |
| 18:04.09 | FtH|Daemona | so each error 2 |
| 18:05.05 | Noct1 | Mapster doesn't track guild locations, does it? And if not, what can? |
| 18:05.20 | AckisWork | No it can't, cart guild positions can |
| 18:05.46 | FtH|Daemona | (for everyone that is using cart guild positions) |
| 18:06.34 | nevcairiel | someone should've designed a open non-serialized protocol for cart guildpositions |
| 18:06.39 | nevcairiel | so other addons could implement it safely |
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| 18:07.24 | nevcairiel | without the need to use rock serializing |
| 18:07.39 | Noct1 | Agreed. |
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| 18:08.07 | tri | Xinhuan: Yep, that update fixed it. |
| 18:08.53 | CIA-38 | 03xinhuan * r70346 10Omen/Modules/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Omen: Fix error "SingleTarget.lua:390: attempt to compare number with string" and in other modes of display as well. The error is caused by Omen's "Show Test Bars", which passed in integers instead of GUID strings. |
| 18:08.54 | CIA-38 | 03profalbert * r70347 10Parrot/Code/Triggers.lua: |
| 18:08.54 | CIA-38 | Parrot: |
| 18:08.54 | CIA-38 | + replaced LibBabbleSpell-Calls by GetSpellInfo in Triggers. |
| 18:08.56 | CIA-38 | (Some icons may stop displaying properly, try the SpellId rather than the name of the icon) |
| 18:09.13 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70348 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 18:09.13 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:09.13 | CIA-38 | - Processing fix |
| 18:09.13 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
| 18:09.29 | Noct1 | I can't find the frame name for the zone text anywhere |
| 18:09.36 | AckisWork | inc LibGuildPositions-1.0 ? |
| 18:09.48 | Xinhuan | there, i just fixed the number #1 error complaint in Omen |
| 18:10.10 | Stanzilla | claps |
| 18:10.18 | AckisWork | FtH|Daemona: should have fixed that bug |
| 18:11.12 | durcyn | Noct1: MinimapZoneTextButton |
| 18:11.30 | Noct1 | Hm... thankya |
| 18:11.34 | Noct1 | Wait |
| 18:11.38 | Noct1 | That's the text on the button. |
| 18:11.53 | Noct1 | I mean the frame where the zone text shows upon zone change. Large and red. |
| 18:11.57 | durcyn | oh, that. you're on your own =P |
| 18:13.00 | gix | there's ZoneTextFrame and SubZoneTextFrame. defined in ZoneText.xml |
| 18:14.24 | Xinhuan | i did a grep across all of Omen's files |
| 18:14.34 | Xinhuan | shouldn't have any more of that compare number with string error |
| 18:14.35 | CIA-38 | 03kergoth * r70349 10HandyNotes_Directions/ (Directions.lua enUS.lua): HandyNotes_Directions: fix the replacements so things like 'BattlemasterAlliance Battlemasters' don't show up. |
| 18:16.23 | CIA-38 | 03Octane666 * r70350 10SpamMeNot/ (6 files): |
| 18:16.23 | CIA-38 | SpamMeNot: |
| 18:16.23 | CIA-38 | - Version number changed to match WoW. |
| 18:16.23 | CIA-38 | - Split code up in to seperate files to make it easier to find functions based on their job. |
| 18:16.23 | CIA-38 | - Now uses new event filters instead of hooking the chat frame's event handler. |
| 18:16.24 | CIA-38 | - Now compatible with upcoming WIM release. |
| 18:16.27 | CIA-38 | 03Carlos 07Kyopaxa * r70351 10BigWigs/ (43 files in 7 dirs): |
| 18:16.30 | CIA-38 | BigWigs: |
| 18:16.32 | CIA-38 | - Added esES localization on Black Temple and Hyjal. |
| 18:16.34 | CIA-38 | - Reviewed esES localization of Karazhan. |
| 18:16.36 | CIA-38 | - Reviewed esES localization of core, plugins and others. |
| 18:19.24 | CIA-38 | 03scorpio0920 * r70352 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFuLocal-zhTW.lua: |
| 18:19.24 | CIA-38 | FuBar_GroupFu: |
| 18:19.24 | CIA-38 | - Update zhTW localization. |
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| 18:22.42 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70353 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 18:22.42 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:22.42 | CIA-38 | - Possible fix for Have Materials being checked |
| 18:22.42 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
| 18:23.10 | CIA-38 | 03durcyn * r70354 10Omniscience/ (core.lua data.lua): Omniscience: position saving works, but only saves on anchor toggle. Antiarc, gief OnDragStop callback. |
| 18:23.30 | nevcairiel | whats Omniscience? |
| 18:24.00 | durcyn | intended to be a LibBars necb clone, right now it's a bit messy |
| 18:24.33 | evilcazz_ | nevcairiel: CC tracker IIRC |
| 18:24.40 | Funkeh` | 43 files of translations |
| 18:24.44 | Funkeh` | w.o.w |
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| 18:24.53 | nevcairiel | its like all files =P |
| 18:24.53 | durcyn | Funkeh`: good thing it's in a branch, eh? |
| 18:25.07 | Funkeh` | gonna have fun reviewing that when he merges |
| 18:25.51 | kenlyric | maybe he converted encoding on every file |
| 18:25.56 | kenlyric | like half the localization people do. |
| 18:26.48 | Funkeh` | don't make me think about that man |
| 18:27.23 | Wasserstoff | gotta use utf-8 and make the encoding gods happy :/ |
| 18:27.36 | kenlyric | open in notepad |
| 18:27.51 | Wasserstoff | vim* |
| 18:28.20 | Leialyn | Wasn't there an addon that fixes chatframe clickthrough when they are locked? |
| 18:29.09 | Stanzilla | Leialyn: http://git.tekkub.net/tekChatBorderFix/ < that? |
| 18:29.16 | Xinhuan | i wonder why the branch is named Kyopaxa |
| 18:29.19 | Xinhuan | is that like a spanish word? |
| 18:29.34 | nevcairiel | maybe the guy who created it |
| 18:29.44 | Leialyn | gonna try it out Stanzilla |
| 18:29.51 | CIA-38 | 03charon 07charon * r70355 10Threat-2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): resync with trunk |
| 18:29.52 | nevcairiel | doesnt sound spanish really |
| 18:29.59 | CIA-38 | 03charon 07charon * r70356 10Threat-2.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: optimize NPC:CLEU by testing for event type first |
| 18:30.03 | Xinhuan | btw nevcairiel, there's a new error in threat-2.0 |
| 18:30.06 | CIA-38 | 03charon 07charon * r70357 10Threat-2.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: |
| 18:30.06 | CIA-38 | Threat-2.0: fix an apparent bug in NPC:CLEU |
| 18:30.06 | CIA-38 | UNIT_DIED, SPELL_AURA_REMOVED and _APPLIED all seem to have a nil |
| 18:30.06 | CIA-38 | source, i.e. srcFlags == 0x80000000, so the attackability test |
| 18:30.07 | CIA-38 | prevented all of those sections from being reached. Illidan (flame |
| 18:30.09 | CIA-38 | death), Leotheras (Whirlwind fade), Vashj (Barrier gain/fade) and Noth |
| 18:30.10 | Xinhuan | in the decompress code |
| 18:30.11 | CIA-38 | (Blink gain) appear to have been affected. |
| 18:30.12 | nevcairiel | whats that? |
| 18:30.13 | CIA-38 | 03charon 07charon * r70358 10Threat-2.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: clean up NPC module ModifyThreat() |
| 18:30.14 | Xinhuan | local guid = format(dfmt, string_byte(usc, 1, #usc)) |
| 18:30.29 | Xinhuan | ppl are getting errors on that one, with #4 parameter being nil |
| 18:30.30 | charon | Antiarc: might want to look at r70357 |
| 18:30.33 | Xinhuan | meaning usc is of length 2 |
| 18:30.40 | Xinhuan | the code above it should be changed to |
| 18:30.47 | Xinhuan | if #usc ~= 8 then return nil end-- To prevent errors from old clients |
| 18:30.53 | Xinhuan | rather than > 8 |
| 18:31.15 | nevcairiel | probably some weird broken clients in between |
| 18:31.25 | Xinhuan | does old clients possibly send 2 byte guids? |
| 18:31.30 | Xinhuan | is that even possible? |
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| 18:31.40 | nevcairiel | one revision with 0 stripping did |
| 18:31.45 | Xinhuan | was any old version of omen able to compress a guid to 2 bytes? |
| 18:32.06 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Not a player GUID. |
| 18:32.21 | Xinhuan | in any case, changing it to ~= 8 should fix it |
| 18:32.28 | nevcairiel | a player guid with zero stripping could be compressed to 2 bytes |
| 18:32.29 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 18:32.48 | Xinhuan | that's the question, is a playerGUID compressable to 2 bytes in the old format? ;p |
| 18:33.09 | Polarina | nevcairiel: I've seen player GUIDs using the last 4 bytes (or 7 hexadecimal numbers). |
| 18:33.24 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 18:33.24 | Xinhuan | it would have to be a playerGUID that is less than 2^32 isn't it? |
| 18:33.32 | nevcairiel | but some player guids use 4 digits only |
| 18:33.44 | nevcairiel | and there was one version of omen that stripped zeros |
| 18:33.57 | nevcairiel | i think mine is 4 digits only tbh |
| 18:34.01 | Xinhuan | commit the fix if you think it won't break compatibility (i think it won't) |
| 18:34.08 | Xinhuan | but i'm asking you to review it ;p |
| 18:34.17 | nevcairiel | 0x0000000000001EBF,"Nevcairiel" |
| 18:34.23 | nevcairiel | could be compressed to 2 bytes |
| 18:34.32 | Polarina | nevcairiel: That's a low GUID... |
| 18:35.04 | Xinhuan | lua> tonumber("1E", 16), tonumber("BF", 16) |
| 18:35.04 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 30, 191 |
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| 18:35.11 | Xinhuan | those bytes aren't modified |
| 18:35.26 | Xinhuan | so it would just be transmitted as-is \030\191 |
| 18:35.34 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 18:35.35 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 18:35.38 | nevcairiel | its still 2 bytes long |
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| 18:35.48 | Xinhuan | think the fix is ok? |
| 18:35.48 | Polarina | Xinhuan: What about NULL bytes in the middle of a GUID? |
| 18:36.02 | Xinhuan | threat no longer compresses that way Polarina |
| 18:36.13 | Fisker- | kisses nevcairiel |
| 18:36.18 | Xinhuan | it now takes the entire 16 digits and compresses every pair of 2 digits into a byte |
| 18:36.21 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: well the format needs 8 results to not error ever, right? |
| 18:36.37 | Xinhuan | it needs exactly 8 |
| 18:36.39 | nevcairiel | lua> string.byte("abcd", 1, 4) |
| 18:36.39 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 97, 98, 99, 100 |
| 18:36.49 | Xinhuan | anymore than 8 is discarded |
| 18:36.57 | evilcazz | is there something that looks for spell reflection buffs? eg, some prompt that your target is reflecting spells? |
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| 18:36.59 | Xinhuan | and the check is already > 8 |
| 18:37.03 | Polarina | Xinhuan: NULL bytes? |
| 18:37.22 | Xinhuan | Polarina, htere is a map |
| 18:37.22 | Xinhuan | local map = {[254] = "\254\252", [61] = "\254\251", [58] = "\254\250", [255] = "\254\253", [0] = "\255"} |
| 18:37.34 | durcyn | evilcazz: antagonist will show the buff duration |
| 18:37.36 | Xinhuan | those bytes are remapped as above in map[] |
| 18:37.44 | Xinhuan | on receiving, there is a bunch of gsubs() |
| 18:37.52 | Polarina | Xinhuan: You can pass everyting except the NULL byte through the hidden addon channel. |
| 18:37.52 | Xinhuan | in a certain order to unmap it |
| 18:38.04 | Xinhuan | the \000 byte is remapped to \255 and |
| 18:38.11 | Xinhuan | \255 is remaped to \254\252 |
| 18:38.15 | Xinhuan | before transmission |
| 18:38.27 | Polarina | And 61 and 58? |
| 18:38.37 | Xinhuan | 61 and 68 are = and : symbols |
| 18:38.42 | Xinhuan | which are used as delimiters |
| 18:38.51 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 18:38.52 | Xinhuan | to separate threat info on different mobs |
| 18:39.13 | Xinhuan | i.e "playerGUID:mobID=123:mobID=456" |
| 18:39.16 | Xinhuan | is what is transmitted |
| 18:39.31 | Xinhuan | the playerGUID part is 8 or more bytes and needs unescaping |
| 18:39.38 | CIA-38 | 03kergoth * r70359 10HandyNotes_Directions/Directions.lua: HandyNotes_Directions: also create a waypoint if possible when adding a landmark, so you get a crazy arrow pointing to where the guard directed you. |
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| 18:39.43 | Xinhuan | same with the mobID parts |
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| 18:39.58 | Xinhuan | the number after = is always a floor()ed integer |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-38 | 03charon * r70360 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-38 | Threat-2.0: special-case GetPlayerAtPosition(guid, pos) for pos=1,2 |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-38 | This separately handles GetPlayerAtPosition in O(n) time for pos=1,2 |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-38 | so that there is now a cheap way to get the second-most threatening |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-38 | player. |
| 18:40.27 | CIA-38 | 03scorpio0920 * r70361 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua: |
| 18:40.27 | CIA-38 | Recount: |
| 18:40.28 | CIA-38 | - Update zhTW localization. |
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| 18:41.21 | CIA-38 | 03nevcairiel * r70362 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: fix check for old clients for some very rare old clients |
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| 18:42.51 | charon | i swear the intartubes hate me |
| 18:42.59 | nevcairiel | dont we all |
| 18:43.09 | nevcairiel | svn is majorly slow for me |
| 18:43.10 | nevcairiel | again |
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| 18:46.35 | charon | have there been any reports of omen breaking on leotheras or illidan? it seems kinda strange that the NPC module bug would have gone unnoticed |
| 18:46.56 | durcyn | both have been mentioned once or twice recently |
| 18:47.08 | charon | ok then i'm at least not dreaming |
| 18:47.13 | VonhintenHOME` | breaking in what way? we did leo last night, and I'm not sure it was faulty |
| 18:47.40 | charon | the whirlwind would have gone unnoticed, probably meaning no threat resets whatsoever |
| 18:47.46 | charon | or at least, no resets after whirlwind. |
| 18:48.04 | Xinhuan | what NPC module bug charon? |
| 18:48.13 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm, can't say I noticed, our pally gets agro back pretty quickly and never usually have to watch threat |
| 18:48.27 | Xinhuan | i did illidan earlier today, i can tell you that illidan threat didn't reset itself between p2 and p3 |
| 18:48.41 | Xinhuan | meaning when we entered p3, illidan has all the aggro from p1 in omen |
| 18:49.01 | Apoco | is there a way to tell if a string is all spaces? |
| 18:49.02 | Xinhuan | did you find the cause for this? |
| 18:49.21 | durcyn | Apoco: gsub + strlen, i suppose |
| 18:49.30 | charon | Xinhuan: svn diff -c 70357 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Threat-2.0/charon |
| 18:49.34 | Wasserstoff | Nightbane also didn't reset I noticed... but I wasn't sure if it is supposed to? |
| 18:49.37 | Apoco | hmm |
| 18:49.38 | Dashkal | Pattern match on /( )+/ ? |
| 18:49.39 | Xinhuan | apoco: string.match(str, "([^%s])") ? |
| 18:49.46 | VonhintenHOME` | yes Nightbane is supposed to |
| 18:49.51 | VonhintenHOME` | and doesn't |
| 18:49.55 | charon | the CIA announce should also be in the chat a few minutes ago, but i got disconnected shortly afterwards |
| 18:50.02 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match(" ", "([^%s])") |
| 18:50.02 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: nil |
| 18:50.20 | Dashkal | Um, isn't that searching for notspace? |
| 18:50.24 | Apoco | string.match(str, "([^%s])") will work think |
| 18:50.30 | Xinhuan | umm how do u do a set that isn't all spaces ;p |
| 18:50.32 | Apoco | I can do not string.match(str, "([^%s])") |
| 18:50.50 | Apoco | lua> not string.match("Te s t a s d ", "([^%s])") |
| 18:50.51 | lua_bot | Apoco: false |
| 18:51.02 | Apoco | lua> not string.match(" ", "([^%s])") |
| 18:51.02 | Xinhuan | that's searching for anything that is not-a-space, so if its true, it contains a nonspace |
| 18:51.03 | lua_bot | Apoco: true |
| 18:51.14 | Dashkal | lua> string.match(" ", "( )+") |
| 18:51.14 | lua_bot | Dashkal: nil |
| 18:51.19 | Dashkal | guess not |
| 18:51.19 | balstor | you ever get that felling looking at your addon code and think to yourself, deleting this and starting over might be a good move |
| 18:51.21 | Apoco | lua> not string.match("Test", "([^%s])") |
| 18:51.21 | lua_bot | Apoco: false |
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| 18:51.46 | Apoco | looks right to me |
| 18:51.47 | Apoco | :) |
| 18:51.57 | Xinhuan | %s should match spaces, tabs and newlines i think |
| 18:52.02 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` http://i26.tinypic.com/f5ds8x.jpg |
| 18:52.06 | Apoco | yeah |
| 18:52.06 | Xinhuan | so ^%s should be anything not those |
| 18:52.14 | charon | Xinhuan: p3 is when the flames are dead? seems that's indeed "my" bug |
| 18:52.16 | Dashkal | lua> not string.match("Test string", "([^%s])") |
| 18:52.17 | lua_bot | Dashkal: false |
| 18:52.21 | Dashkal | nice |
| 18:52.25 | Xinhuan | end of p2 is when the flames dies |
| 18:52.30 | Xinhuan | then illidan lands on the ground |
| 18:52.31 | charon | Xinhuan: Illidan.lua uses the flames for a threat wipe |
| 18:52.36 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona, what are you showing me? :D |
| 18:52.51 | Xinhuan | yeah, i'm saying omen shows all the threat from p1 retained, when we enter p3 ;p |
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| 18:52.55 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: does it reset on p3-p4 transitions? |
| 18:52.59 | FtH|Daemona | BadBoy ! |
| 18:53.05 | Xinhuan | p3-p4 is resetting |
| 18:53.09 | Funkeh` | just that it works or something wrong? |
| 18:53.15 | Xinhuan | but apparently, not everyone gets resetted |
| 18:53.17 | FtH|Daemona | still no highscore ! |
| 18:53.18 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 18:53.21 | Xinhuan | a specific warrior doesn't, the rest does |
| 18:53.22 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:53.38 | nevcairiel | it does a wipe-all-threat when it sees a flame spawn |
| 18:53.41 | nevcairiel | maybe that even is bugged |
| 18:53.52 | nevcairiel | *event |
| 18:53.58 | Xinhuan | care to check? hehe |
| 18:54.10 | nevcairiel | got a full illidan combatlog? |
| 18:54.13 | Xinhuan | i believe omen was updated to ignore all SUMMON events |
| 18:54.17 | Xinhuan | threat rather |
| 18:54.20 | Noct1 | Shkarn|Work: We were getting a threat error last night - it still seemed to be pretty accurate, but it was an annoying error :P |
| 18:54.26 | Xinhuan | would that affect it nevcairiel? |
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| 18:54.27 | Noct1 | Shkarn|Work: I don't remember, to be honest. It was mid-raid and it was in the way, so I just hid it. We think it had to do with select spells or a select spell |
| 18:54.27 | Noct1 | Shkarn|Work: I believe it was a threat error, though, and not an omen error |
| 18:54.30 | charon | Xinhuan: that's just in the class module, the npc module is a different thing |
| 18:54.33 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: i dont think so |
| 18:54.43 | nevcairiel | anyway a full illidan log would help |
| 18:54.48 | Xinhuan | i do have a illidan log somewhere hmm |
| 18:54.48 | nevcairiel | or of the transition into p2 |
| 18:55.00 | nevcairiel | or out of p2 |
| 18:55.03 | nevcairiel | doesnt really matter |
| 18:55.34 | Xinhuan | self:RegisterSpellHandler(38955, self.flameSpawn) |
| 18:55.37 | Xinhuan | i see that |
| 18:55.48 | Xinhuan | i'll check my combatlogs |
| 18:56.16 | Noct1 | What's the link to the bug reports for omen and similar? |
| 18:56.29 | Arcaia | what is the framename of pitbulls player frame? |
| 18:56.31 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 18:57.27 | Xinhuan | i cannot find the integer "38955" in a illidan kill log |
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| 18:57.50 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70363 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:57.50 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:57.50 | CIA-38 | - Removed unneeded localization |
| 18:57.50 | CIA-38 | - Added option to close ARL window when trade skill window closes |
| 18:57.50 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
| 18:58.57 | Xinhuan | 4/10 21:51:04.573 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0xF1300059D4002F1C,"Blade of Azzinoth",0xa48,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,39855,"Summon Tear of Azzinoth",0x1 |
| 18:59.03 | Xinhuan | LOL spellID is mistyped |
| 18:59.12 | Xinhuan | in that Illidan.lua |
| 18:59.13 | charon | Noct1: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/OMEN |
| 18:59.26 | Xinhuan | there u go |
| 18:59.29 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: whats the GUID of a flame? |
| 18:59.41 | Xinhuan | there u go4/10 21:51:04.573 SPELL_SUMMON,0xF1300059D4002F1C,"Blade of Azzinoth",0xa48,0xF1300059D5002F22,"Flame of Azzinoth",0xa28,39855,"Summon Tear of Azzinoth",0x1 |
| 19:00.00 | charon | unless that spell does damage to someone, it still won't trigger the current NPC:CLEU handling |
| 19:00.10 | Xinhuan | does that help? |
| 19:00.14 | nevcairiel | lua> tonumber(("0xF1300059D5002F22"):sub(-12,-7), 16) |
| 19:00.15 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 22997 |
| 19:00.24 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70364 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:00.24 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:00.24 | CIA-38 | - Code optimization |
| 19:00.24 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
| 19:00.27 | nevcairiel | do they have a death event in the log? |
| 19:00.36 | Noct1 | charon: thankya |
| 19:00.36 | durcyn | awfully proud of your drycoding, eh ackis |
| 19:00.52 | Xinhuan | death event of the flame? |
| 19:00.55 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:01.00 | Xinhuan | i'll look |
| 19:01.10 | nevcairiel | it should reset when both flames die as well |
| 19:01.13 | Xinhuan | 4/10 21:51:05.385 SPELL_SUMMON,0xF1300059D4002F20,"Blade of Azzinoth",0xa48,0xF1300059D5002F23,"Flame of Azzinoth",0xa28,39855,"Summon Tear of Azzinoth",0x1 |
| 19:01.16 | nevcairiel | thats why i am wondering |
| 19:01.21 | Xinhuan | i'm looking for the last line of IDs for those 2 IDs now |
| 19:01.22 | ThiefMaster | http://tm.privatepaste.com/20EGekpxvW <- is that TOC file fine for an accon that only uses AceAddon and AceHook? |
| 19:01.38 | charon | nevcairiel: not if the flame spawn never triggered |
| 19:01.39 | Xinhuan | 4/10 21:55:56.963 UNIT_DIED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0xF1300059D5002F23,"Flame of Azzinoth",0x10a48 |
| 19:01.50 | charon | nevcairiel: because then flames==-1 before it is ever checked against 0 |
| 19:02.03 | nevcairiel | charon: true, doh |
| 19:02.29 | Xinhuan | 4/10 21:53:31.120 UNIT_DIED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0xF1300059D5002F22,"Flame of Azzinoth",0x10a48 |
| 19:02.34 | Xinhuan | they both have UNIT_DIED events |
| 19:02.40 | Xinhuan | and SPELL_SUMMON events |
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| 19:02.57 | Xinhuan | but the fact remains, the 39855 spellID is mistyped as 38955 |
| 19:02.59 | CIA-38 | 03nevcairiel * r70365 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/NPCModules/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: Threat-2.0: fix typo in Illidan module preventing resets before and after Phase2 |
| 19:03.18 | charon | it still won't work IMO... |
| 19:03.37 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 19:03.57 | charon | unless the same spell ID also does damage to a player, NPC:CLEU doesn't handle it |
| 19:04.01 | charon | (it doesn't check for summons) |
| 19:04.12 | Xinhuan | lua> tonumber("5985", 16) |
| 19:04.13 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 22917 |
| 19:04.48 | nevcairiel | charon: i see .. hrm |
| 19:04.55 | nevcairiel | it should do that on all SPELL events |
| 19:04.57 | Xinhuan | what about triggering it on the flame's death |
| 19:05.00 | nevcairiel | not only on DAMAGE |
| 19:05.05 | Xinhuan | and there's 2 flame deaths to rely on |
| 19:05.24 | Xinhuan | the main reason is because |
| 19:05.28 | Xinhuan | when illidan jumps into the air |
| 19:05.32 | Xinhuan | at the start of p2 |
| 19:05.35 | Xinhuan | dots still tick on him |
| 19:05.35 | charon | but if you do change NPC:CLEU, please merge r70356 & r70357, because it won't even trap UNIT_DIED as things currently stand |
| 19:05.46 | charon | or maybe i'll do that right away |
| 19:05.55 | Xinhuan | and continue to tick as the flames are summoned |
| 19:05.57 | nevcairiel | it does catch UNIT_DIED |
| 19:06.00 | charon | no |
| 19:06.08 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 19:06.14 | charon | it checks if srcFlags signals an attackable mob |
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| 19:06.21 | charon | but UNIT_DIED (and SPELL_AURA_*) have nil as src |
| 19:06.25 | charon | hence not attackable |
| 19:06.26 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 19:06.27 | nevcairiel | right |
| 19:06.29 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 19:06.30 | charon | i'll merge :P |
| 19:06.36 | Xinhuan | :p |
| 19:06.53 | nevcairiel | do all SPELL_* events have a spellID? |
| 19:06.58 | durcyn | yes |
| 19:06.59 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:07.08 | Xinhuan | btw, i am not sure if threat is cleared on shadow prison |
| 19:07.28 | CIA-38 | 03charon * r70366 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: optimize and fix NPC:CLEU (merges r70356 & r70357) |
| 19:07.33 | nevcairiel | so just sub the eventname for SPELL_ and do the SpellHandler callback in there |
| 19:07.46 | Xinhuan | because i'm fairly sure when ilidan reached 30%, and he does shadow prison, the threat isn't wiped when we exit Roleplaying |
| 19:08.08 | nevcairiel | no there is no handler for that |
| 19:08.11 | charon | nevcairiel: there, this way i won't have to re-merge that optimization in 5 minutes. i just wasn't sure if i should commit to trunk without being able to test beforehand... |
| 19:08.19 | Xinhuan | 4/10 22:15:39.401 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0xF130005985003006,"Illidan Stormrage",0x10a48,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,40647,"Shadow Prison",0x1 |
| 19:08.22 | Xinhuan | if you need the ID |
| 19:08.27 | Xinhuan | 4/10 22:15:39.823 SPELL_AURA_APPLIED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0x0000000000B39A57,"Alianar",0x800514,40647,"Shadow Prison",0x1,DEBUFF |
| 19:08.31 | Xinhuan | that's the debuff, same ID |
| 19:08.33 | nevcairiel | you sure it resets anyway? |
| 19:08.39 | Xinhuan | i think it does |
| 19:08.40 | Arrowmaster | dots tick during shadow prison |
| 19:08.46 | Xinhuan | i've seen ppl pull aggro |
| 19:08.59 | Xinhuan | right after exiting shadow prison |
| 19:09.02 | tri | yeah, i'm pretty sure there is an aggro reset at 30% after prisons |
| 19:09.03 | nevcairiel | i've seen dots tic and the tank keep aggro |
| 19:09.03 | Arrowmaster | ive never had illidan run directly for me after shadow prison |
| 19:09.05 | nevcairiel | so dunno |
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| 19:09.16 | tri | I have |
| 19:09.19 | nevcairiel | maybe the reset is at the end of the prison |
| 19:09.21 | Xinhuan | i think the aggro is wiped on exitting shadow prison |
| 19:09.21 | tri | when i was affliction :) |
| 19:09.23 | Arrowmaster | its deffently not when it starts |
| 19:09.27 | Xinhuan | at which no more dots should linger |
| 19:09.37 | Xinhuan | 4/10 22:16:09.667 SPELL_AURA_REMOVED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0x000000000063285F,"Celinalrah",0x514,40647,"Shadow Prison",0x1,DEBUFF |
| 19:09.37 | nevcairiel | man the NPC module is crazy |
| 19:09.44 | nevcairiel | its so unflexable |
| 19:09.48 | Xinhuan | so just reset the aggro on the debuff going away? |
| 19:10.34 | Xinhuan | (is that doable?) |
| 19:10.39 | nevcairiel | lua ("SPELL_DAMAGE"):sub(1,5) |
| 19:10.43 | nevcairiel | lua> ("SPELL_DAMAGE"):sub(1,5) |
| 19:10.44 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: SPELL |
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| 19:11.43 | nevcairiel | hm now thats even more complicated |
| 19:11.44 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 19:13.52 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 19:14.09 | Xinhuan | so RegisterSpellHandler() only registers for SPELL_DAMAGE events |
| 19:14.17 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:14.23 | nevcairiel | but not sure how to fix that right now |
| 19:14.26 | Xinhuan | and not SPELL_AURA_APPLIED/REMOVED |
| 19:14.36 | ThiefMaster | <ThiefMaster> http://tm.privatepaste.com/20EGekpxvW <- is that TOC file fine for an addon that only uses AceAddon and AceHook? |
| 19:14.44 | nevcairiel | oh you can register for BuffHandlers too |
| 19:14.51 | Xinhuan | well a solution is to register for a buffs/debuffs |
| 19:15.05 | Xinhuan | elseif eventtype == "SPELL_AURA_REMOVED" then |
| 19:15.12 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70367 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua ARLText.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 19:15.12 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:15.12 | CIA-38 | - Pulled out text based code to a seperate file |
| 19:15.12 | CIA-38 | - Code optimizations |
| 19:15.12 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
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| 19:15.38 | Xinhuan | but that sectino of the code is for NPC debuffs |
| 19:15.45 | Xinhuan | it wont' match PC debuffs? |
| 19:15.48 | nevcairiel | the NPC module should be more like the Class thing |
| 19:15.52 | nevcairiel | with the NPC beign the class |
| 19:16.41 | Xinhuan | or setup a 30 sec timer to reset all threat |
| 19:16.43 | Xinhuan | on the initial cast |
| 19:16.51 | Xinhuan | 4/10 22:15:39.401 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0xF130005985003006,"Illidan Stormrage",0x10a48,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,40647,"Shadow Prison",0x1 |
| 19:16.59 | nevcairiel | yeah that might work as well |
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| 19:17.01 | nevcairiel | its just not possible right now |
| 19:17.08 | Xinhuan | but i dont' think u can even register for that as well |
| 19:17.09 | nevcairiel | need to bash Antiarc with some sharp objects again :P |
| 19:17.26 | nevcairiel | only doing spell parsing on SPELL_DAMAGE is silly |
| 19:17.40 | charon | nevcairiel: not sure. the class CLEU is designed on the idea that it will have to handle most events anyway. the NPC CLEU probably should be designed to minimize overhead if it's not interested in the events |
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| 19:17.57 | charon | (though i do wonder if i should merge the optimized class CLEU) |
| 19:18.07 | Xinhuan | well charon how do you propose to wipe all threat on exiting shadow prison? |
| 19:18.22 | charon | huh? |
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| 19:18.40 | nevcairiel | you cant even wipe correctly on mob casting a spell |
| 19:18.45 | nevcairiel | its silly right now |
| 19:18.55 | Xinhuan | threat on ilidan resets when he exits roleplaying at 30% |
| 19:18.58 | charon | Xinhuan: i'm saying that from a design standpoint, NPC CLEU shouldn't have a table of interesting spells for every possible event, because it won't be interested in most of them most of the time |
| 19:19.15 | charon | instead, it should allow registering for a specific (event, event_details) pair, or some such |
| 19:19.19 | Xinhuan | yeah but spells is the only way to detect most of these events |
| 19:19.29 | nevcairiel | maybe it should be changed to register the type of the event with it |
| 19:19.32 | Xinhuan | for eg, when leotheras whirlwinds |
| 19:19.42 | nevcairiel | that way we have a nice two dimensional table to detect stuff from |
| 19:20.20 | charon | what nev said |
| 19:20.38 | nevcairiel | but then again, if we want to match for spellId |
| 19:20.43 | nevcairiel | we need to sub for SPELL_ first |
| 19:21.11 | Xinhuan | well the simple fix for now |
| 19:21.12 | charon | why? i suppose you'll settle for one of the SPELL_* events to detect that flame (or whatever) |
| 19:21.21 | Xinhuan | is to replace the SPELL_DAMAGE check with just SPELL_ |
| 19:21.21 | charon | so you could register, say, for (SPELL_SUMMON, FLAME_ID) |
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| 19:21.43 | nevcairiel | well if the NPC modules would be redesigned anyway, so yeah that will work |
| 19:21.48 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: not really, no |
| 19:21.49 | nevcairiel | i considered that |
| 19:21.52 | nevcairiel | but it wont work |
| 19:21.54 | Xinhuan | first mention of Maiev Shadowsong in my combatlog is 4 seconds after he exits shadow prison |
| 19:21.57 | nevcairiel | it matches for a unitID first |
| 19:22.02 | nevcairiel | which can only be player or pet |
| 19:22.25 | nevcairiel | but your spellcast doesnt have any targetGUID that matches that |
| 19:22.26 | kenlyric | he? |
| 19:22.59 | charon | also need to be careful not to match too many spells in that module |
| 19:23.06 | Psycho | He's really effiminate, kenlyric. |
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| 19:23.12 | nevcairiel | i think its in for a rewrite |
| 19:23.18 | nevcairiel | need to catch Antiarc and discuss that |
| 19:23.39 | charon | (if 25 players broadcast a threat wipe in reaction to events affecting each of the 25, you're in comms hell) |
| 19:23.55 | Xinhuan | we fixed that last week charon |
| 19:24.07 | charon | asks Maiev to set up a shadow prison for Antiarc |
| 19:24.09 | nevcairiel | well not really |
| 19:24.12 | Arrowmaster | so apparently there was a 5.2 earthquake here at 5:30am..... i was awake at 5:30am and didnt feel shit |
| 19:24.13 | charon | you did? |
| 19:24.21 | Xinhuan | there is a 0.35 seconds bucket delay for threat wipes on receiving it |
| 19:24.21 | nevcairiel | but yeah |
| 19:24.26 | nevcairiel | threat wipes are on a cooldown now |
| 19:24.30 | Xinhuan | so you will only do a threat wipe once per 0.35 seconds |
| 19:24.34 | Xinhuan | on receiving alot of them |
| 19:24.36 | kenlyric | Arrowmaster: I didn't feel the one at 11:09 am either |
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| 19:24.41 | Xinhuan | i found that bug |
| 19:24.45 | Arrowmaster | i was asleep for that one |
| 19:24.48 | nevcairiel | there will still be 25 threat wipes send over comm |
| 19:24.49 | kenlyric | though it waws only a 4.6 |
| 19:24.59 | nevcairiel | but the clients will not actually wipe again and re-broadcast threat |
| 19:25.09 | kenlyric | I had friends who woke up. My dog didn't even move |
| 19:25.19 | Xinhuan | yeah but now you only do at most 3 or 4 threat wipes and send out new threat info once, since its wiped threat |
| 19:25.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah neighbour said she woke up from the 5:30 one |
| 19:25.32 | Xinhuan | and on 2nd wipe, there's no change from the previous sent data (deltas are all 0) |
| 19:25.38 | nevcairiel | anyway the NPC module needs some serious love |
| 19:25.45 | nevcairiel | right now its very static for very specific casts etc |
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| 19:27.02 | kenlyric | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Maps/US2/37.39.-89.-87_eqs.php |
| 19:27.02 | charon | Xinhuan: the way i read the code, it still broadcasts a reset every time the NPC module tells it to. so if all players are raid officers, and the NPC module messes up and catches other player's events too, it _will_ send n^2 many messages. |
| 19:27.07 | kenlyric | people in california just giggle |
| 19:27.16 | nevcairiel | charon: why n^2? |
| 19:27.18 | nevcairiel | its only n |
| 19:27.21 | kenlyric | they call a 5.2 "thursday" |
| 19:27.26 | kalahassi | i tried to code a few modules for pre-bc-content myself, ill upload them later, so you can tell me how horribly i failed at helping omen :) |
| 19:27.29 | Xinhuan | that's not really an issue charon |
| 19:27.36 | nevcairiel | or rather, its 2n |
| 19:27.37 | p3lim | in the event UNIT_COMBAT, as arg2, what is ENERGIZE? |
| 19:27.46 | charon | *sigh* |
| 19:27.55 | Xinhuan | the old issue is that if you received 25 threat wipes, it actually executed all 25 threat wipes and then broadcast your 0-ed threat 25 times |
| 19:27.56 | nevcairiel | p3lim: mana gains etc |
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| 19:28.27 | Xinhuan | now if you receive 25 threat wipes, it would only execute about 3 or 4 of them at most |
| 19:28.34 | Xinhuan | over say 1.5 seconds |
| 19:28.48 | nevcairiel | the threat wipes will all be received at the same time most likely, because combatlog should be the same on all players |
| 19:28.50 | nevcairiel | so yeah |
| 19:28.53 | Xinhuan | because its now bucketted |
| 19:28.54 | charon | we're _so_ totally not talking about the same problem |
| 19:28.54 | nevcairiel | you get 25 wipe requests |
| 19:29.26 | nevcairiel | Oh i see what you mean |
| 19:29.26 | Xinhuan | so your worry is that 25 people are sending 25 threat wipes, so that's 25x25 messages in total? |
| 19:29.43 | charon | last i checked, n^2 was indeed the same as n*n |
| 19:29.48 | nevcairiel | obviously the NPC modules need to be careful what to register if we change to a new system |
| 19:29.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 19:30.06 | nevcairiel | we cant parse SPELL_DAMAGE for other people |
| 19:30.15 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: bt3 is yours right? |
| 19:30.25 | charon | "so if all players are raid officers, and the NPC module messes up and catches other player's events too" <<-- !! |
| 19:30.27 | nevcairiel | but we can SPELL_CAST_* |
| 19:30.36 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: yes |
| 19:30.42 | Xinhuan | ok i see what you mean now |
| 19:30.46 | nevcairiel | yeah i misread that, multitasking ftl |
| 19:30.55 | Xinhuan | so basically NPC modules have to be written very carefully to avoid that |
| 19:31.07 | nevcairiel | that shouldnt really be a problem though |
| 19:31.09 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: is there an easy way to have bars move thier location if they appear off of the screen? Also, having them have a relative postion to screen edges might work well |
| 19:31.24 | Tornhoof | well xin, just provide some generic methods for common "spam" events |
| 19:31.33 | Tornhoof | like WipeThreat() |
| 19:31.39 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: there is a reset button in the bar options .. will reset that one bar if you happen to move it off screen |
| 19:31.48 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: but I have to reloadui for that |
| 19:31.49 | nevcairiel | more intelligent positioning is coming in BT4 |
| 19:31.53 | Xinhuan | an example was if the NPC module was written to catch Shadow Prison wearing off ppl, then it would catch it 25+pets times |
| 19:31.53 | NivFreak | and it resets all my settings |
| 19:31.54 | NivFreak | heh |
| 19:31.59 | NivFreak | how is bt4 coming? |
| 19:32.04 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: all settings of that one bar, yes |
| 19:32.06 | Xinhuan | rather than just catching it once for the player himself |
| 19:32.21 | Xinhuan | that's what you mean right charon? |
| 19:32.25 | charon | yeah |
| 19:32.31 | nevcairiel | thats why its smarter to catch the spell cast and setup a timer |
| 19:32.33 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: it's just time consuming to fix, at that point I just screw with my resolution and scale for 5 mins until I get them back into an area I can see |
| 19:32.33 | Xinhuan | although in some cases, you want it to catch on any player |
| 19:32.43 | Xinhuan | rather than just yourself |
| 19:32.44 | Tornhoof | is there a difference in flags or similar for raid wide event (like shadow prison) and some local debuff? |
| 19:32.52 | charon | of course it's a corner case anyway -- i mean who makes every player an officer -- but i'm just saying you need to carefully watch those filters |
| 19:32.56 | Xinhuan | nope torn |
| 19:32.58 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: possibly, dont know when though |
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| 19:33.04 | charon | at least the ones which trigger a threat reset. the others aren't as harmful |
| 19:33.15 | nevcairiel | charon: mobid resets can be executed by anyone |
| 19:33.16 | Xinhuan | atm, i just /omen clear |
| 19:33.23 | nevcairiel | wipeallthreat only by officiers |
| 19:33.24 | Xinhuan | during shadow prison |
| 19:33.54 | nevcairiel | i can hopefully get Antiarc's opioniong and input on the NPC module later today |
| 19:34.04 | nevcairiel | *opinion |
| 19:34.07 | nevcairiel | man my typing sucks today |
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| 19:36.36 | stew_a | is wowwebstats' signup broken or is it just me |
| 19:36.53 | Tornhoof | dunno, is it possible to hash the message, so basically every officer is sending the wipethreat command with the same id for identification? |
| 19:37.15 | nevcairiel | too complicated really |
| 19:37.17 | Xinhuan | i don't really think its an issue |
| 19:37.31 | Xinhuan | at the moment, *at most* 25 threat wipes gets sent |
| 19:37.42 | Xinhuan | of which at most 3 or 4 gets executed |
| 19:37.56 | Tornhoof | ah ok, that's fine i'd say |
| 19:37.56 | nevcairiel | should only be one, or the comm is really slow |
| 19:38.14 | Xinhuan | given that the average Aus/sg/taiwan latency is 500 ms |
| 19:38.22 | Xinhuan | i'll say 3-4 is the max |
| 19:38.23 | Xinhuan | rather than 1 |
| 19:38.36 | Xinhuan | even on SSH, my latency is 230 ms at best |
| 19:38.39 | Xinhuan | to wow servers |
| 19:38.45 | Xinhuan | without SSH its 550ms on avg |
| 19:38.48 | balstor | has anyone wrote a piece of code to convert C_L_E_U events to a single text string?? |
| 19:38.52 | nevcairiel | the wipe latency is 10 seconds |
| 19:39.19 | Xinhuan | remember i pointed out the wipe threat timer not being checked nevcairiel? |
| 19:39.34 | durcyn | balstor: er..why would you want to do that? |
| 19:39.43 | Xinhuan | it was creating a new timer every time |
| 19:39.44 | nevcairiel | it is checked in my code o.O |
| 19:39.52 | Xinhuan | yeah, i fixed that a week ago |
| 19:40.00 | Xinhuan | there wasn't a check there |
| 19:40.03 | nevcairiel | actually i did, you just told me :P |
| 19:40.07 | balstor | remakeing a procwatch and it's easier for people to just serch off a string and not subparts |
| 19:40.11 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 19:40.15 | nevcairiel | or i think i forwarded to Antiarc |
| 19:40.15 | Xinhuan | or i remember telling someone |
| 19:40.31 | Xinhuan | about it, i think i told u to tell Antiarc, and then you didn't, so i told Antiarc myself ;p |
| 19:40.48 | balstor | I'm hip deep in code manipulations and thought i would ask if there was i code i could reuse |
| 19:40.52 | nevcairiel | i know we talked about it, was just confused because you still brought it up |
| 19:41.43 | Xinhuan | why is it 10 seconds btw |
| 19:42.00 | CIA-38 | 03scorpio0920 * r70368 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.tw.lua: |
| 19:42.00 | CIA-38 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:42.00 | CIA-38 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 19:42.17 | Xinhuan | that's a bit too long? although i don't really forsee any case needing to wipe threat more than once per 10 seconds |
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| 19:44.04 | Gnarfoz | ~seen antiarc |
| 19:44.07 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (8h 2m 54s) #wowace (8h 2m 54s) #curseforge (8h 2m 54s), last said: 'Yes.'. |
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| 19:46.53 | tri | I read somewhere that Recount "Deaths" will be fixed in 2.4.2 - is that true? :P |
| 19:47.20 | AckisWork | the deaths are a blizz bug |
| 19:47.40 | tri | oh, right |
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| 19:47.49 | Xinhuan | UNIT_DEATH isn't being fired for players basically |
| 19:48.04 | Xinhuan | so the only way to track death at the moment is to scan the raid for their health |
| 19:48.16 | Xinhuan | which, isn't a good solution ;p |
| 19:48.18 | tri | ahh |
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| 19:48.33 | tri | got it |
| 19:48.55 | tri | so basically, as soon as blizz stop being retarded, it'll work again? :D |
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| 19:51.47 | NivFreak | yes |
| 19:52.05 | NivFreak | 2.4.0 taught us such an awesome way to kill VR though |
| 19:52.43 | NivFreak | we're on our way to a 5 minute kill |
| 19:52.45 | Ozguli` | huh, something I don't know yet? |
| 19:52.52 | balstor | don't leave us hangning here NivFreak |
| 19:52.59 | AckisWork | mindcontrol? |
| 19:54.11 | evl | anyway to turn local hasMainHandEnchant, _, _, hasOffHandEnchant = GetWeaponEnchantInfo(); return hasMainHandEnchant == true into a oneliner? |
| 19:54.22 | evl | I just can't wrap my head around this select rap |
| 19:54.23 | evl | crap |
| 19:55.19 | Xinhuan | return GetWeaponEnchantInfo() == true |
| 19:55.22 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 19:55.22 | Tularis | retiurn (GetWeaponEnchantInfo()) won't be enough ? |
| 19:55.29 | evl | for the offhand I meant :P |
| 19:55.33 | Tularis | *return |
| 19:55.49 | p3lim | thanks nevcairiel |
| 19:55.51 | Xinhuan | return select(4, GetWeaponEnchantInfo()) == true |
| 19:56.14 | NivFreak | er |
| 19:56.15 | NivFreak | sorry |
| 19:56.15 | Xinhuan | select() will return the nth return value onwards |
| 19:56.16 | ThiefMaster | anyone has a few seconds to look at my toc now? ;o |
| 19:56.20 | NivFreak | we just all stand in melee range on VR now |
| 19:56.28 | NivFreak | and send one hunter out with aspect of the pack to kite orbs |
| 19:56.29 | Xinhuan | so if it has 10 values, that will return the 4th-10th value |
| 19:56.40 | Xinhuan | so in this case, you just want the 4th value == true |
| 19:56.50 | ben | == true is silly |
| 19:56.53 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 19:56.58 | ben | return (select(4, GetWeaponEnchantInfo()))? |
| 19:57.15 | Xinhuan | yep the extra ( ) around the select() trims it down to 1 value |
| 19:57.20 | Xinhuan | instead of all values |
| 19:57.21 | Loonacy | But then if there are more than 4 values it returns those too. |
| 19:57.23 | ThiefMaster | NivFreak: don't you get a big damage loss since your dpsers need to run back when VR starts to hammer? |
| 19:57.28 | ben | comedy return pack(select(4, GetWeaponEnchantInfo()))[1] option |
| 19:57.34 | NivFreak | ThiefMaster: we don't run |
| 19:57.34 | balstor | aren't the orbs all arcane damage?? toss a tank in 425 arcane resist sitting out there and through a renew on him once in a while, that way the hunter can dps |
| 19:57.38 | NivFreak | ThiefMaster: stand and dps |
| 19:58.04 | ThiefMaster | heh, so your healers probably have much to heal? |
| 19:58.14 | balstor | shamans piss on the raid |
| 19:58.31 | NivFreak | ThiefMaster: 2 CoH priest and 2 resto shaman |
| 19:58.33 | NivFreak | it's total cake |
| 19:58.35 | Psycho | ThiefMaster: 6K damage over the raid every 20 seconds is pretty easy to heal. |
| 19:58.45 | balstor | or as my new guild calls it "Banna Beams" |
| 19:59.20 | Tularis | that's like a couple of lifeblooms tossed over the raid |
| 19:59.36 | Tularis | or circle of healing, etc. |
| 20:00.23 | Psycho | Yeah, not getting orbed increases the amount of healing you can do tremendously as well. And since the fight would take so little time that way, your healers probably don't end up nearly as stressed. I like it, Niv |
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| 20:03.16 | rubik | hmm.. that strat works? might have to try it |
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| 20:06.17 | VonhintenHOME` | You lose the natural 10% range agro reduction though |
| 20:06.57 | CIA-38 | 03sano 07sano * r70369 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: Fixed assert issue with non-existent sourceName. |
| 20:07.20 | rubik | i don't think i lose him from start to finish anyway so aggro wouldn't be a problem (i r feral durid) |
| 20:08.10 | NeoTron_ | Elsia: so last night I had to disable recount because it was slowing my game down a lot. I looked at the cpu use (with profiling on) and recount + ace3 were the top two. without recount, ace3 wasn't there so not sure what it was doing |
| 20:08.41 | buu | I'm guessing it was counting. |
| 20:08.53 | Psycho | VonhintenHOME`: Yes, warlocks have to pretend that they're rogues. |
| 20:09.05 | CIA-38 | 03fenlis * r70370 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.toc localization.koKR.lua): WoWEquip: - Added translation for koKR |
| 20:09.06 | VonhintenHOME` | I have a beefy system, and I was having issues in Hyjal the other day |
| 20:09.20 | VonhintenHOME` | all the AOE, and damage scrolling in, was slowing me down |
| 20:09.26 | NeoTron_ | it was on the pre-mother trash so aoe packs |
| 20:09.41 | VonhintenHOME` | It got a little better when I set my combat log to display Nothing |
| 20:09.41 | buu | NivFreak: Doesn't the hammering cause pushback? |
| 20:09.55 | NeoTron_ | it seems like the new combat log should be faster (no parsing) but I wonder if the number of events are so much larger it isn't |
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| 20:11.04 | Mera | is now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (logon pageron) |
| 20:11.21 | keiss | Elsia: 1) when your on a specific fight and reset data the selection should prolly get reset to overall 2) any chance of making the fight backlog longer ? (or save specific fights) |
| 20:11.33 | Elsia | NeoTron: weird. not sure why ace3 should be up there |
| 20:12.17 | NeoTron | Elsia: indeed since it doesn't use acedb for storage anymore |
| 20:12.18 | Elsia | keiss: I'm looking to make the backlog length flexible |
| 20:12.48 | Elsia | NeoTron: I got a number of reports about stutter, so I assume there is some issue but I haven't seen any yet which sucks |
| 20:13.17 | keiss | Elsia: would be nice if for example bossfights were saveable |
| 20:13.42 | VonhintenHOME` | Having the combat log displaying Everything is a pretty big hit on FPS, from what I perceived |
| 20:14.35 | Elsia | hmm maybe people have their CL to everything and that's the real issue |
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| 20:15.14 | Psycho | Never understood what the point of having "Everything" is at all. |
| 20:15.24 | charon | speed reading contests |
| 20:15.29 | Psycho | hah! |
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| 20:15.45 | keiss | what would be nice is having a what happened to ... which would bring a dropdown of all ppl in raid |
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| 20:15.53 | NeoTron | the only point I see of everything is being able to find ppl that you can focus on |
| 20:16.01 | NeoTron | I'd much rather .. yeah that |
| 20:16.18 | NeoTron | because having to find the name of someone in [everything] is dum |
| 20:16.56 | keiss | impossible |
| 20:18.11 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70371 10AckisRecipeList/ (12 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:18.11 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:18.11 | CIA-38 | - New method for getting hunter beast training information, should reduce the overall overhead and make it hella easier to localize |
| 20:18.11 | CIA-38 | - Code optimizations |
| 20:18.11 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
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| 20:24.22 | Elsia | NeoTron: What filter settings do you use? Do you have data collection on for anything but players and bosses? |
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| 20:34.58 | Xinhuan | why does it worry me that AckisWork just commited like major code changes, all drycoded from work ;p |
| 20:35.06 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:35.17 | Dashkal | I was gonna ask the same thing :p |
| 20:35.22 | nevcairiel | doesnt really worry me |
| 20:35.26 | nevcairiel | i dont use those :D |
| 20:35.33 | AckisWork | it's only 1 mod :P |
| 20:35.35 | Primer | what exactly does "drycoded" mean? Untested? |
| 20:35.40 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 20:35.47 | nevcairiel | just coded away without access to wow |
| 20:35.49 | nevcairiel | to test it |
| 20:36.06 | Xinhuan | basically, its the opposite meaning from "getting your hands wet" ;p |
| 20:36.16 | Xinhuan | or is it feet |
| 20:36.30 | Gngsk | hands get dirty, feet get wet |
| 20:36.38 | Psycho | Basically it means "pray to the code gods that all of this doesn't break horribly when I fire it up" |
| 20:36.41 | Dashkal | "drycoded" commits... usually a prediction of a later "fixed drycode mistake" commit :p |
| 20:36.53 | AckisWork | no, I call them "Fixed typo" |
| 20:36.58 | Dashkal | lol |
| 20:37.01 | Psycho | rofl |
| 20:37.02 | Xinhuan | my last 3 omen commits are drycodes ;p |
| 20:37.09 | Xinhuan | nobody's complained yet |
| 20:37.11 | Psycho | - Boy, this code is FILLED with typos |
| 20:37.19 | Psycho | - holy cow! Another one! |
| 20:37.24 | kenlyric | as long as Ackis never makes a drycode commit, we'll be fine |
| 20:37.29 | Dashkal | ... >.> |
| 20:37.31 | Xinhuan | cows are not holy Psycho |
| 20:37.32 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 20:37.32 | kenlyric | OH SHIT |
| 20:37.34 | Dashkal | Yeah, I've done that, Psycho |
| 20:37.38 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:37.39 | Xinhuan | not even the ones in cow level |
| 20:37.43 | Dashkal | Moo |
| 20:37.46 | Xinhuan | i've seen electric cows though |
| 20:37.47 | nevcairiel | the ones in india are |
| 20:37.51 | kenlyric | you are the LAST PERSON who should make drycoded commits :) |
| 20:37.52 | Psycho | Xinhuan: I'm a Buddhist. |
| 20:37.57 | kenlyric | laster than me! |
| 20:38.02 | Idrogeno | I tend to call them "I'm whoring the cia stats" commits |
| 20:38.16 | Idrogeno | and I make them all the time! |
| 20:38.24 | Xinhuan | someone compiles/makes CIA stats? |
| 20:38.31 | Idrogeno | yes |
| 20:38.33 | Xinhuan | where? |
| 20:38.54 | Idrogeno | http://cia.vc/stats/project/ace |
| 20:39.09 | AckisWork | lol I can do a lot of dev on the mod here at work, generally I try to keep things simple, but I tend to miss a , here or there... today was a bit different as I did some other changes :P |
| 20:39.40 | Xinhuan | so what do i click on at that page |
| 20:39.42 | Xinhuan | to see author stats |
| 20:39.47 | Idrogeno | the author name |
| 20:40.00 | Primer | well, as long as your editor can do syntax checking |
| 20:40.03 | Primer | you should be fine |
| 20:40.09 | Idrogeno | or if you know the name, you can just put in the url |
| 20:40.11 | Idrogeno | like this one http://cia.vc/stats/author/dmeltzer |
| 20:40.18 | Xinhuan | clickin ackis only brings me to a page showing his last 20 comits or something |
| 20:40.19 | Idrogeno | 13 hours! |
| 20:40.22 | Xinhuan | that's not what i call stats |
| 20:40.39 | AckisWork | i feel so exposed |
| 20:40.55 | Idrogeno | look at the summary at the top |
| 20:41.04 | Psycho | Xinhuan: Maybe you could brutally rape the svn server and compile your own. |
| 20:41.12 | Psycho | I'm sure no one would mind. |
| 20:41.15 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 20:41.18 | nevcairiel | KDE repo |
| 20:41.18 | Idrogeno | 439 messages since the first one, 7.06 months ago, for an average of 11.58 hours between messages |
| 20:41.18 | Xinhuan | 4 lines of stats is hardly 'stats' ~_~ |
| 20:41.19 | nevcairiel | r798638 |
| 20:41.20 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 20:41.30 | nevcairiel | nearly 800k revision! |
| 20:41.40 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 20:41.40 | AckisWork | Primer: does Notepad++ have syntax checking? lol |
| 20:41.58 | Primer | My eclipse with a lua module does |
| 20:42.06 | Primer | if there's a syntax error, it'll show it |
| 20:42.06 | Xinhuan | 782 messages since the first one, 7.77 months ago, for an average of 7.15 hours between messages |
| 20:42.07 | Psycho | AckisWork: I don't believe so. |
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| 20:42.10 | Xinhuan | hmm i've doen that many commits? hehe |
| 20:42.19 | Psycho | I'd recommend Eclipse. |
| 20:42.23 | Dashkal | Notepad++ can do syntax if you setup an external for luac |
| 20:42.28 | Psycho | But I guess you're more likely to listen to Primer anyway =P |
| 20:42.29 | Xinhuan | how do i show "top 10 commiters" |
| 20:42.36 | Xinhuan | is that even possible |
| 20:42.43 | Dashkal | Eclipse has too much overhead for lua. (Uses eclipse all the time for java and would never go without it) |
| 20:42.47 | Idrogeno | not sure if cia can do that |
| 20:42.52 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: just get to fisheye :P |
| 20:42.59 | Xinhuan | meh |
| 20:43.09 | Xinhuan | fisheye is slow as hell |
| 20:43.37 | Psycho | Dashkal: No program has too much overhead, if it uses too much memory or CPU that just means you need a better computer =P |
| 20:43.47 | Dashkal | lol |
| 20:43.59 | Idrogeno | Xinhuan: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4590/contributors |
| 20:44.00 | Idrogeno | there you go :) |
| 20:44.05 | Dashkal | I disagree, but feel no reason to evangalize my position :p |
| 20:44.12 | Primer | yup, my eclipse started working great once I got a new box at work :) |
| 20:44.23 | Xinhuan | lol what's a kudo rank |
| 20:44.38 | Psycho | If I was serious, Dashkal, I'd deserve a bitchslap or two. |
| 20:44.42 | Dashkal | Actually, part of why I stopped using eclipse with lua is it offered very little that notepad++ didn't, at slower performance. When the DLTK bit is complete, I'll switch back. WTB outline view |
| 20:44.50 | Dashkal | *snickers* |
| 20:45.17 | Dashkal | WTB addon that responds to whispers that uses ace2, ace3, rock, dongle, and old ace1 for extra speed? |
| 20:45.20 | CIA-38 | 03scorpio0920 * r70372 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:45.20 | CIA-38 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:45.20 | CIA-38 | - Crusader's Scaled Battledgear fixed typo. |
| 20:45.20 | CIA-38 | - Crusader's Ornamented Battlegear fixed typo. |
| 20:45.20 | CIA-38 | - All localization need to check :) |
| 20:45.31 | Dashkal | I think I should probably be shot for making that joke... |
| 20:45.40 | Xinhuan | i'm pretty sure the stats on that page is wrong Idrogeno |
| 20:45.40 | nevcairiel | has been done before |
| 20:45.42 | Polarina | Uh.. I use a text editor for programming... |
| 20:45.43 | Primer | <-- only uses windows for games, Linux for everything else. Not many choices when it comes to editors/IDEs |
| 20:45.47 | charon | Idrogeno: how does that thing determine the kudo score? :) |
| 20:45.50 | Dashkal | mmm |
| 20:45.53 | Idrogeno | no idea about kudo's |
| 20:45.55 | Xinhuan | i've done 782 commits, and it says i've only done 306 on that page |
| 20:45.59 | Idrogeno | must be how many people you've slept with |
| 20:46.01 | Dashkal | Same, but I do wow coding exclusively on windows for convience |
| 20:46.03 | Idrogeno | Xinhuan: not sure how often its updated |
| 20:46.06 | Primer | I've been with eclipse for years, and I've found that it pretty much does everything I need |
| 20:46.11 | Xinhuan | does it count branch commits? |
| 20:46.12 | Idrogeno | probably not that recently :) |
| 20:46.15 | nevcairiel | i kinda dislike eclipse |
| 20:46.21 | nevcairiel | it feels wonky |
| 20:46.36 | Primer | nevcairiel: there are a few things it does that are strange, I agree |
| 20:46.37 | nevcairiel | i mainly use a plain text editor and a console window for compiling |
| 20:46.46 | Primer | the whole "workspace" and "working set" thing |
| 20:46.49 | Idrogeno | last commit was 27 days ago according to the log |
| 20:46.52 | nevcairiel | and occasionally Visual Studio |
| 20:46.54 | Idrogeno | so yea, it's a bit out of date |
| 20:47.25 | Dashkal | primer: agreed |
| 20:47.25 | Xinhuan | its more than a bit out of date |
| 20:47.37 | Dashkal | Have you see the politics on the discussion lists about working sets? |
| 20:47.39 | Xinhuan | considering i'e done 782 commits and 400 of them aren't in the last 27 days ;p |
| 20:47.43 | Dashkal | My god they're practivally dogmatic |
| 20:48.07 | Xinhuan | lua> 782/70372 |
| 20:48.07 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0.011112374239754 |
| 20:48.16 | Xinhuan | 1.111123%! |
| 20:48.22 | Xinhuan | ok too many 1s in there |
| 20:50.59 | Pkekyo| | holy hell...Mitchell Lichtenstein is one sick puppy |
| 20:51.11 | Pkekyo| | anyone heard of the movie teeth? |
| 20:51.31 | ckknight | no |
| 20:51.37 | Pkekyo| | lucky bastard |
| 20:51.59 | Pkekyo| | is scurrd :< |
| 20:52.22 | Dashkal | refrains from searching for that at work |
| 20:52.28 | Dashkal | Somehow I think I wouldn't want to find out |
| 20:53.35 | Pkekyo| | if you're male, you do -not- want to even know a hint of the synopsis |
| 20:53.46 | Psycho | VAGINAS THAT EAT PENISES |
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| 20:54.14 | Dashkal | ok, now I'm morbidly curious. Fortunately I'm at work and will forget all about that by the time I leave |
| 20:54.23 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:54.31 | Pkekyo| | Psycho: :< it's evul |
| 20:54.34 | nevcairiel | we'll remind you |
| 20:54.40 | Pkekyo| | like I said...the writer is one fucking sick puppy |
| 20:54.42 | Dashkal | I hate you :p |
| 20:55.00 | Psycho | Pkekyo|: Is it really that bad? I wanted to go watch it because I think it sounds hilarious. |
| 20:55.02 | Pkekyo| | I hate Mitchell Lichtenstein |
| 20:55.07 | Dashkal | I'm still safe, but only because I'm going to be busy as hell tonight packing for a trip tomorrow |
| 20:55.24 | Pkekyo| | Psycho: I haven't seen it...just read the synopsis, and just the mere thought of it scares the living crap outta me |
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| 20:56.00 | Psycho | Are you worried that it will actually happen? :o |
| 20:56.22 | Pkekyo| | :< |
| 20:56.23 | Pkekyo| | jes? |
| 20:56.33 | Primer | what? Some chick with a trap in her snatch? |
| 20:56.41 | Psycho | OM NOM NOM NOM |
| 20:57.21 | Pkekyo| | Primer: I have no problem imagining one of my exes having it...crazyass satanist cunt... :/ |
| 20:57.39 | AckisWork | rofl |
| 20:57.39 | Primer | It was strange. Watches this episode of Law and Order SVU where the main chick goes undercover in a prison to catch a rapist and he tries to force his penis into her mouth, to which I thought "She should just bite down really hard" |
| 20:57.53 | Primer | as opposed to turning her face away, as she did |
| 20:58.03 | Psycho | SERIOUSLY |
| 20:58.05 | Psycho | NO SERIOUSLY |
| 20:58.08 | Psycho | Come on now. |
| 20:58.15 | Psycho | Why does ANYONE get raped in the mouth? |
| 20:58.18 | Primer | granted, you have to take the dude's cock into your mouth, but hey, you fuck his ass up in the end |
| 20:58.20 | Loonacy | But what if he has aids? |
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| 20:58.31 | Psycho | Then you gargle with bleach afterwards. |
| 20:58.34 | Psycho | rofl |
| 20:58.36 | Psycho | I don't know |
| 20:58.38 | Psycho | Then you get aids I guess. |
| 20:58.44 | Psycho | BUT HE HAS NO COCK |
| 20:58.45 | Pkekyo| | that's poor thought through from the rapist's side...PENIS = IMPORTANT - DO NOT PUT IN SHARP/EDGED THINGIES |
| 20:59.09 | Primer | well, if he's just gonna turn around and rape you in the other end afterwards, I'd say you have a better chance of killing the aids with your saliva |
| 20:59.22 | Psycho | Touche |
| 20:59.25 | Primer | or soemthing |
| 21:00.13 | tri | mmm... I'm using a relatively unknown addon for copy/pasting text in wow.. it adds [*] next to each line in the chat frame, which I can click and it brings up an editbox with that text in... does anyone know of a way to bring this to the FRONT of all windows? i.e. so when I press Escape, this window closes first, not e.g. my Character pane... |
| 21:00.18 | Dashkal | yay for ssh tunnels. eh, looks campy |
| 21:00.31 | charon | tri: DevTools chat trace does something like that |
| 21:00.40 | charon | oh, sorry, misread |
| 21:00.53 | ckknight | Psycho: because the rapist thinks it's hot, and by saying "Don't bite or I'll knock all your teeth out" will get results |
| 21:01.11 | tri | :P |
| 21:01.27 | tri | in fact, don't think it's a wowace addon, so maybe you won't know :P |
| 21:01.28 | Psycho | I don't think I'd be in a position to do much of anything except scream and curl into the fetal position if I got my wang bitten off. |
| 21:01.34 | Psycho | But then, I'm not a rapist. |
| 21:01.41 | Psycho | So I really can't see it from that angle. |
| 21:01.54 | Psycho | Which means... CKKNIGHT!!!!1!!1! |
| 21:01.58 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: if some chick chewed down on your nob with full force you'd be a bit too preoccupied to knock her teeth out, I'd imagine |
| 21:02.10 | Psycho | Oh god I'm using addons that promote rape. |
| 21:02.16 | ThiefMaster | http://tm.privatepaste.com/20EGekpxvW <- can someone have a look at this TOC file if it's fine for an addon that only uses AceAddon and AceHook? |
| 21:02.20 | Pkekyo| | lmao Psycho |
| 21:02.33 | tri | http://ace.pastey.net/85997 - that's the LUA file |
| 21:02.54 | Primer | does anyone know of a simple addon that makes the chat mouse wheel scrollable? |
| 21:02.58 | tri | if there's anything in there I can edit to bring it to the front (think it's called Strata?) of all windows, just lemme know :P |
| 21:03.00 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: if you have her in the right position with the right amount of intimidation, she wouldn't bite. |
| 21:03.02 | Primer | the chat window |
| 21:03.13 | Psycho | Seriously ckknight, you're weirding me out. |
| 21:03.24 | ckknight | what? |
| 21:03.26 | tri | Primer: I use Prat, and it has an option to do that, but has a lot of other options, too... |
| 21:03.36 | Snago | ThiefMaster: Looks fine to mee |
| 21:03.37 | Dashkal | wow, I think I actually managed to get creeped the fuck out by a dev irc channel... |
| 21:03.52 | Psycho | I'm just joking. |
| 21:04.04 | Primer | tri: does it otherwise change the chat windows? All I want is this functionality |
| 21:04.05 | Pkekyo| | all of a sudden I started feeling really, -really- sorry for ellipsis |
| 21:04.53 | Psycho | But really, I'm totally expecting the next addon to be: "Deviant. All-in-one addon of awesomeness. It'll RAPE YOU AND YOU WON'T BITE DOWN. OH NO. NO YOU WON'T." |
| 21:05.07 | Pkekyo| | lmao |
| 21:05.08 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 21:05.32 | Primer | My first IRC nickname was Deviant |
| 21:05.37 | Primer | back in...1995 |
| 21:05.38 | Psycho | *gasp* |
| 21:05.39 | AckisWork | wow @ irc chat... |
| 21:05.41 | Psycho | The plot thickens. |
| 21:05.47 | tri | Primer: Yeah, it adds time/class colours etc. - all of which can be disabled, actually, but yeah, it's not exactly what you're looking for |
| 21:05.54 | Superfly_ | did anyone tried to buff detect invis as a lock with zomgbuffs? |
| 21:05.58 | Pkekyo| | AckisWork: you should've known what you were going to... |
| 21:06.03 | Primer | tri: I'll still try it. Thanks |
| 21:06.20 | AckisWork | ... is very important to me |
| 21:07.24 | CIA-38 | 03alar * r70373 10AlarBGHelper/Libs/: AlarBGHelper Proprties modified |
| 21:08.10 | Dashkal | Why do I get this foreboding sense of fear every time I see "<CIA-38> alar" on my screen? |
| 21:08.19 | CIA-38 | 03alar * r70374 10AlarBGHelper/AdditionalLibs/: AlarBGHelper Removed unused folder |
| 21:08.30 | Dashkal | Ahh, that's why |
| 21:08.32 | AckisWork | is it the same fear that you get when you see a commit by me? |
| 21:08.36 | Dashkal | facepalms |
| 21:08.40 | Dashkal | No |
| 21:09.12 | Chompers | Ckk is right btw |
| 21:09.13 | Dashkal | Drycoding typos can be fixed. Willful ignorance of basic software development isn't so easily cured |
| 21:09.20 | ckknight | it's true, Chompers |
| 21:09.21 | Chompers | you dont bite down, you risk your own life |
| 21:09.43 | Chompers | so you do what the person tells you hoping you can escape later, with your life |
| 21:09.51 | ckknight | yep. |
| 21:09.52 | CIA-38 | 03adirelle * r70375 10AddonLoader/AddonLoader-frFR.lua: AddonLoader: fixed frFR locales. |
| 21:09.54 | hypetech | Anybody know of any alternatives to QuestHelper? I'm in the mood to find some new cool mods I haven't used |
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| 21:10.08 | Chompers | bite down and that's 100% chance he'll kill you right there |
| 21:10.08 | AckisWork | I've been trying to get my stuff to run through the wow lua, however it's being a pain because of libraries |
| 21:10.10 | ckknight | hypetech: wanna see a tech preview of Cartographer3? |
| 21:10.15 | hypetech | sure |
| 21:10.26 | Dashkal | Chompers: assuming he isn't immediately utterly incapacatated by the pain |
| 21:10.39 | ckknight | hypetech: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/c9801493787051d705c81025b1d8ad13c3dd3cbf.tar.gz |
| 21:10.46 | ckknight | rename the resultant folder to Cartographer3 |
| 21:10.51 | ThiefMaster | i doubt someone can grab his gun and shoot you if he just lost his cock |
| 21:10.54 | ckknight | and just pop it in |
| 21:11.09 | ckknight | I'm contemplating putting in QH-style features into it or into a module for it |
| 21:11.17 | Dashkal | Ok, what is it with git and those arcane hashes for revisions? |
| 21:11.17 | ckknight | (likely module) |
| 21:11.34 | ckknight | Dashkal: they're sha1 hashes, they don't use revision numbers |
| 21:11.40 | ckknight | I make my versions the date of commit |
| 21:11.47 | Dashkal | hashes of what? |
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| 21:12.08 | Dashkal | and to what purpose? revision numbers have a clear meaning |
| 21:12.27 | hydrogen | revision numbers get kinda not that workable with a distributed scms though |
| 21:12.31 | ckknight | Dashkal: it's a distributed system, revision numbers on one machine wouldn't match what's on another |
| 21:12.34 | hydrogen | as when you merge, do you add half numbers? :) |
| 21:12.43 | Dashkal | "Oh, I committed that back in r70023" or "Oh, I committed that in c9801493787051d705c81025b1d8ad13c3dd3cbf" |
| 21:12.45 | ckknight | is my r20 the same as your r20 or something different? |
| 21:12.57 | Dashkal | distributed, that would do it |
| 21:13.11 | ckknight | Dashkal: "Oh, I committed that back in 2008-04-18 12:34:56" |
| 21:13.12 | Dashkal | also: ewwww, wtb centralized system for centralized project |
| 21:13.13 | Jaxon | Dashkal: there is a video on YouTube of Linus Torvalds speaking at Google about git and such, kind of an interesting video. |
| 21:13.30 | hydrogen | My biggest complaint about git is the interface |
| 21:13.31 | Jaxon | If not extremely awkward speaking. |
| 21:13.32 | Psycho | HOLY CRAP ITS JAXON |
| 21:13.34 | ckknight | Dashkal: it is centralized, you can get Cartographer3 on gitorious. |
| 21:13.35 | hydrogen | still really really low level |
| 21:13.43 | hydrogen | though I use git-svn all the time anyways |
| 21:13.44 | ckknight | the centralization is a social issue, _not_ a technical issue |
| 21:14.13 | Dashkal | meh, it'll take some convincing... or an interface to it that doesn't suck on the OS I need to test on |
| 21:14.16 | charon | hydrogen: funny, it's one of the things i like about git, it lends itself to scripting once you see how the data structures interact ;) |
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| 21:14.36 | Dashkal | wine + alt-tab == epic fail |
| 21:14.48 | Dashkal | I've hardlocked my system so bad sysrq-b failed |
| 21:15.08 | ckknight | in any event, hypetech, test it out, tell me your thoughts, any feature requests, all stuff like that :-) |
| 21:15.11 | hydrogen | well, yes... but when you get into merging between local git-svn branches with different remote parents and trying to figure out which of the seventy three git-* commands you are supposed to use to do that... |
| 21:15.12 | hypetech | ckknight: I was in UC and I went to Hammerfall by hearth and it seems to only want to show me UC :p |
| 21:15.25 | Primer | Dashkal: in the past that's simply lead me to lose control of X |
| 21:15.32 | Primer | require me to ssh in and kill wine + X |
| 21:15.33 | AckisWork | hypertech that's because it still needs more cowbell |
| 21:15.33 | ckknight | hypetech: mousewheel to zoom out |
| 21:15.36 | Primer | but it was never fatal |
| 21:15.41 | ckknight | hypetech: click-drag to move |
| 21:15.42 | Dashkal | when alt-sysrq fails, you aren't sshing into the box |
| 21:15.51 | ckknight | hypetech: also, if you push the "P" button, it zooms to the player |
| 21:15.53 | hypetech | ckknight: ooooo |
| 21:15.55 | ckknight | "Z" zooms to the current zone |
| 21:15.57 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: but your version stuff only works with git-archive right |
| 21:15.59 | Dashkal | that's supposed to be caught in the kernel driver |
| 21:16.02 | charon | hydrogen: i just use 'gitk --all' to cherry-pick stuff between svn branches (since you can't in general merge between those) |
| 21:16.02 | hypetech | wow |
| 21:16.03 | hypetech | nice work |
| 21:16.17 | hydrogen | charon: yea, thats what I learned :( |
| 21:16.17 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: true, but once it gets on Curseforge, that's what it'll use to make the zips |
| 21:16.18 | charon | hydrogen: right-click on branch, "check out", right-click on commit, "cherry-pick this" |
| 21:16.20 | Primer | Dashkal: some times it is caught, but does nothing |
| 21:16.25 | Psycho | Yeah, I snagged that link to slap in when I get home too =p |
| 21:16.26 | Primer | in which case, you're SOL |
| 21:16.27 | hypetech | ckknight: it's like google maps haha |
| 21:16.30 | ckknight | hypetech: zoom in far enough and you see the Yatlas-style map |
| 21:16.31 | Psycho | Oh man |
| 21:16.33 | Psycho | I need it now |
| 21:16.33 | ckknight | yep, sure is. |
| 21:16.36 | Psycho | Oh man |
| 21:16.36 | Dashkal | and reach down to hit the reset button :p |
| 21:16.39 | charon | hydrogen: then later rebase -i remotes/foo to clean up the history before dcommit |
| 21:16.48 | Psycho | alright, I'm leaving work, thanks a lot hypetech |
| 21:16.52 | hydrogen | after rebasing a giant changeset frmo trunk to branch, only to find out that rebase changes the remote parent, and committing all sorts of bad stuff :) |
| 21:16.59 | Dashkal | or if yuo really fubar it and it's a laptop, pop the battery :p |
| 21:16.59 | hypetech | Psycho: eh? |
| 21:17.11 | Dashkal | but still, wtb windows git client |
| 21:17.17 | Psycho | You and ckknight are forcing me to go home and look at Cart3 |
| 21:17.19 | Primer | cygwin? |
| 21:17.20 | Psycho | :( |
| 21:17.21 | hydrogen | yea |
| 21:17.23 | hydrogen | theres some work on it |
| 21:17.26 | hydrogen | using msys |
| 21:17.28 | ckknight | Psycho: lol. |
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| 21:17.38 | Primer | I always run svn from the command line in rxvt.exe :) |
| 21:17.41 | Dashkal | cygwin, msys are awkword as hell for me on windows. The filesystem diffs mess with me |
| 21:17.51 | NivFreak | buu: don't you have paladins? |
| 21:18.01 | NivFreak | (re: pushback) |
| 21:18.06 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: oh btw i think you can use .gitattributes it make git-archive create files with crlf line endings but im not sure |
| 21:18.16 | Dashkal | When I run un an emulated posix, I try to stay in it and not cross over onto the real filesystem |
| 21:18.22 | hydrogen | Dashkal: http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ |
| 21:18.31 | hydrogen | but, it,s pretty not that ready I don't think |
| 21:18.33 | NivFreak | buu: and honestly, the pound is far less downtime than dodging orbs |
| 21:18.57 | Primer | speaking of paladins, there's a user that opened a ticket for my addon claiming that the frame doesn't allow him to click through to the UI when its hidden when changing druid forms. Is there something I never considered when dealing with druid forms? I have no druids |
| 21:19.00 | Polarina | Where I get Cartographer 3? |
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| 21:19.18 | hypetech | ckknight: If I click on "P" and then mousewheel zoom in, logically I would think it would zoom in on me, but it just zooms off map |
| 21:19.25 | Dashkal | hydrogen: msys is still a posix "emulation" layer. I find nothing but trouble when I use those things. Evrything from the / being backwords to EOL issues to it just plain won't read the file |
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| 21:19.46 | ckknight | hypetech: it zooms in to where your mouse is. |
| 21:19.52 | Primer | I have no issues when in a cygwin terminal |
| 21:19.54 | Dashkal | I'd certainly try git on a project I could develop under *nix, but wow addons aren't projects I can develop under nix |
| 21:20.00 | hydrogen | nodas' |
| 21:20.03 | hypetech | ckknight: ya I just noticed that after I typed it |
| 21:20.03 | Primer | other than having to deal with /cygdrive/driveletter/ |
| 21:20.05 | hydrogen | nods even |
| 21:20.07 | Psycho | ckknight: That's what I'd expect. Nice. |
| 21:20.19 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, I believe so |
| 21:20.26 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: and if you used $Format:%ct$ your ProvideVersion() could be much much smaller while still creating a .version thats the same |
| 21:20.55 | hypetech | ckknight: not sure if this is related but it seems to have a strange strata issue with pitbull. The pitbull frames' text will show through the map, but not the textures |
| 21:21.04 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: well, does ct return time since epoch? |
| 21:21.08 | Dashkal | someone invent a java implementation of the git client :p |
| 21:21.12 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:21.22 | ckknight | hypetech: yea, that's a framelevel issue :-P |
| 21:21.33 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: okay, I'll test it out. |
| 21:22.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: see my comments on http://jira.wowace.com/browse/LS-21 for getting proper timezone with epochs, since lua is silly and thinks everything is local time |
| 21:22.56 | ckknight | yea, I saw that :-) |
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| 21:24.17 | Polarina | ckknight: Cartographer3/Cartographer.lua:1632: attempt to index upvalue 'CURRENT_ZONE_DATA' (a nil value) |
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| 21:24.42 | Tuller | lance pants |
| 21:26.35 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: is curseforge going to use git-archive and redirect the output to another script that modifies/recreates the file? |
| 21:26.49 | ckknight | yea, that's what I do |
| 21:27.06 | Arrowmaster | cool |
| 21:27.10 | ckknight | I git-archive to a tar, which I open immediately, get all the files, remove all dotfiles, add the files to the resultant zip |
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| 21:27.49 | Hjalte | ckknight: DAMN, Cartographer 3 looks good. It makes using the map a whole new feeling. |
| 21:27.51 | ckknight | also, you can set "externals" on the website, which'll be added |
| 21:28.01 | ckknight | Hjalte: that's what I want to do :-) |
| 21:28.13 | ckknight | Hjalte: any suggestions? |
| 21:28.14 | Polarina | ckknight: In Cartographer 3, can I reduce the amount of zooming to see the "height-map"? |
| 21:28.24 | Vangual | ooh, ckk driving carbonite out of business :) |
| 21:28.28 | ckknight | Polarina: height-map? |
| 21:28.33 | ckknight | Vangual: yea, fuck Carbonite. |
| 21:28.35 | Arrowmaster | i bet you can edit the ~git/.gitconfig to get serverwide crlf settings too |
| 21:28.43 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 21:29.05 | Polarina | ckknight: The mini-map map. :) |
| 21:29.10 | Arrowmaster | aslong as its auto and not forced onto everything, dont want to messup those binary files |
| 21:29.26 | ckknight | Polarina: oh, open Constants.lua |
| 21:29.43 | ckknight | Polarina: change DEFAULT_ZOOM_TO_MINIMAP_TEXTURE |
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| 21:29.58 | ckknight | if you set it too low, it'll severely lag your computer if you view too many textures at once |
| 21:30.01 | ckknight | (Blizzard bug) |
| 21:30.08 | Polarina | ckknight: Thank you. |
| 21:30.13 | stew_a | lol, curator is screwed tonight killing us and behaving wierdly :-) |
| 21:30.16 | ckknight | technically, settings it to 0 will show everything as minimap textures |
| 21:30.26 | ckknight | Polarina: I'm gonna make it an option to set ingame, btw |
| 21:30.45 | Hjalte | ckknight: Only thing I've noticed so far, is if it would be possible to let the map follow the player as he moves around? Eventually you'd want a toggle for that option of course :) |
| 21:31.00 | ckknight | yes, I plan to add that. |
| 21:31.32 | ckknight | Hjalte: what do you think about the buttons at the bottom? I plan to turn the text into images instead, but I think it's a reasonable interface |
| 21:31.58 | ckknight | the "P" will end up just being a toggle |
| 21:33.11 | Hjalte | ckknight: I like your idea of using images, if they are good enough, that is. |
| 21:33.24 | ckknight | yea, I'll also make the buttons a bit bigger |
| 21:33.56 | Tuller | is there a screenshot of this cartographer? |
| 21:34.52 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Taboo edition does not work with Cartographer 3. :( |
| 21:34.59 | ckknight | Taboo? |
| 21:35.10 | Gngsk | routes |
| 21:35.32 | ckknight | yea, Routes and other addons don't work with Cart3 yet |
| 21:35.32 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 21:35.44 | ckknight | I want to work out some way to get things like that to work with Cart3 |
| 21:35.50 | Xinhuan | it'll be pretty challenging to make ANY addon wotk with Cart3 in its current form |
| 21:35.54 | Xinhuan | work* |
| 21:36.21 | ckknight | Xinhuan: if I provide a simple, agnostic API, I think it's reasonable |
| 21:36.24 | Xinhuan | i'll be happy to work with ck on any sort of possible API ^^ |
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| 21:36.35 | ckknight | I think that's a good idea |
| 21:36.43 | ckknight | one thing I want to do is not make it Cart-specific, either |
| 21:36.57 | Xinhuan | for a start, i have 3 addons atm that would want to display stuff on the world map |
| 21:37.02 | ckknight | mostly because by doing that future-proofs it a lot easier |
| 21:37.02 | Xinhuan | GatherMate, HandyNotes and Routes |
| 21:37.13 | ckknight | right, and I want to support all 3 somehow |
| 21:37.25 | nevcairiel | ckknight: write a non-rock-serialized GuildPosition protocol while you are at it =P |
| 21:37.30 | Xinhuan | so it'll be in my interests to ensure the API available can cover a variety of such addons ;p |
| 21:37.36 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I have a prototype already |
| 21:37.38 | ckknight | nevcairiel: :-) |
| 21:37.42 | Hjalte | ckknight: what about adding something like, when I'm zoomed out and then doubleclick somewhere in a zone, the map will zoom in to cover that entire zoom? |
| 21:37.52 | ckknight | Hjalte: I plan to do that. |
| 21:37.54 | Azurewrath | mhm.. the SpamMeNot author aka Kebian is not here by any chance? |
| 21:38.06 | Xinhuan | the zoom atm just "snaps" to the next zoom level right? |
| 21:38.14 | Xinhuan | you can consider smoothing it out with onUpdates |
| 21:38.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:38.18 | nevcairiel | I was thinking about writing a simple GuildPosition thing myself, but after i wondered if i could support Cart traffic ... i gave up =P |
| 21:38.23 | ckknight | Xinhuan: oh, I do that now. |
| 21:38.23 | Xinhuan | like how the wow camera works |
| 21:38.34 | CIA-38 | 03neotron * r70376 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua MagicMarker.lua): MagicMarker: Misc changes. |
| 21:38.35 | Xinhuan | oh, i don't have your latest version yet then hehe |
| 21:38.40 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I should commit my LibGuildPositions-1.0 |
| 21:38.51 | ckknight | it doesn't show anything, just provides data |
| 21:38.53 | ckknight | I've just been busy |
| 21:38.59 | ckknight | nevcairiel: care to look at what I have? |
| 21:40.16 | CIA-38 | 03neotron * r70377 10/branches/MagicMarker/ (. Config.lua Config.lua MagicMarker.lua MagicMarker.lua): MagicMarker: Branch for development of new marking system. |
| 21:40.37 | nevcairiel | ckknight: sure |
| 21:40.47 | FtH|Daemona | hmmmm i just tried to ctrl+click on restFu to remove an entry and got this -> http://ace.pastey.net/85998 |
| 21:44.03 | ckknight | nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/85999 |
| 21:44.22 | nevcairiel | is it supposed to show stuff at some point? |
| 21:44.44 | Xinhuan | do you have any intentions to do periodic git --> wowace svn updates for cart3 at any point ck? |
| 21:45.53 | ckknight | no, I plan to put it on curseforge when curseforge officially launches, which should be a few weeks |
| 21:45.53 | Xinhuan | also, does anyone think it is ludicrious that perhaps there should be some form of planning for a "git wow addons updater" similar to what WAU did for wowace svn ;p |
| 21:46.02 | Chaud | information being displayed is for the weak |
| 21:46.19 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: all those updaters need to die |
| 21:46.29 | Xinhuan | they won't die until there is a usable replacement |
| 21:46.41 | Xinhuan | hence the "planning" i'm talking about |
| 21:46.44 | Hjalte | ckknight: With the way Cartographer 3 works at the moment, I think you should put in a great deal of work on hotkeys and maybe making up, right, down and left work too. I think that'd work nicely with the "free" movement :) |
| 21:46.54 | Dashkal | meh, they need to die and not be replaced by anything easy to use... |
| 21:47.14 | Xinhuan | Hjalte, i don't think cart should be taking away movement options |
| 21:47.23 | ckknight | Hjalte: hrm, I don't think I like that |
| 21:47.40 | ckknight | since I want you to be able to have the map open all the time |
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| 21:47.45 | Xinhuan | like, i want WASD to still be moving my character, not my map ;p |
| 21:48.08 | Stanzilla | ckknight: have you implemented that google eath style click zooming yet? |
| 21:48.12 | Stanzilla | *r |
| 21:48.20 | ckknight | lemme do that now |
| 21:48.22 | ckknight | :-) |
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| 21:48.25 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 21:48.43 | Pkekyo| | ~whalecrit Stanzilla |
| 21:48.44 | purl | ACTION crits Stanzilla with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Stanzilla dies |
| 21:48.50 | Stanzilla | ouw :( |
| 21:48.57 | Pkekyo| | hai2u stan |
| 21:49.34 | Loonacy | Purl, what about Isaac? Doesn't that hurt him? |
| 21:49.34 | purl | ACTION about Isaac? Doesn't that hurt him to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
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| 21:51.11 | Pkekyo| | Loonacy: just think of the whale from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ;> |
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| 21:52.37 | Primer | Wasn't someone here going to start working on an addon with waypoints? |
| 21:52.46 | Primer | I think it was Antiarc |
| 21:52.48 | ckknight | waypoints? |
| 21:53.11 | Primer | it's been something I've wanted to add to my addon for a long time |
| 21:53.27 | Xinhuan | you could look at Tomtom |
| 21:53.31 | Hjalte | ckknight and Xinhuan: Hmm, I see you point in being able to have the map open all the time. How about being able to "focus" the map by eg. pressing a certain mousekey while the mouse hovers over the map, which would then allow the movement keys to be used for moving the map? |
| 21:53.32 | Primer | but I wasn't able to borrow the code too easily from cartographer |
| 21:53.54 | Xinhuan | Hjalte, i'll stick with using the mouse to drag the map |
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| 21:54.08 | ckknight | Hjalte: I dunno about that... |
| 21:54.08 | stew_a | >.< 20 min curator fight and still going |
| 21:54.20 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: You don't find it annoying to drag the map all the time? |
| 21:54.23 | Dashkal | um, doesn't he enrage at 10? |
| 21:54.27 | ckknight | Primer: I'm planning on having Cart3 use a completely new waypoint system, this time with a real 3d arrow :-P |
| 21:54.34 | Xinhuan | no, because its unrealistic to use the map all the time |
| 21:54.38 | ckknight | Hjalte: question: why are you dragging it? |
| 21:54.44 | stew_a | yeah but ours is bugged, he resets his debuffs every 10 seconds, and berserk timer along with it |
| 21:54.45 | Primer | ckknight: can you make it "generic"? |
| 21:54.54 | Stanzilla | ckknight: u could support TomTom |
| 21:54.55 | Primer | so I can steal your code more easily? |
| 21:55.02 | Dashkal | his health too? |
| 21:55.03 | stew_a | he also resets threat thats why we're wanding and rank 1 wrathing him |
| 21:55.10 | stew_a | no his hp is going down |
| 21:55.18 | Dashkal | wow |
| 21:55.19 | Dashkal | %? |
| 21:55.21 | ckknight | Stanzilla: I want to support 3rd party map addons easily |
| 21:55.22 | Primer | I'll need it to calculate bearing too |
| 21:55.26 | stew_a | 20% now |
| 21:55.36 | Primer | kthx |
| 21:55.49 | hypetech | new version of WAU? =O |
| 21:55.56 | Stanzilla | ckknight: TomTom = waypoint addon :D maybe you dont even have to code your own waypoint stuff |
| 21:56.19 | ckknight | yea, except that I plan for Cartographer to be a modular package |
| 21:56.27 | ckknight | and there's no reason I can't compete with TomTom |
| 21:56.36 | Amadeo | I own a real TomTom! |
| 21:56.42 | ckknight | while still allowing it to work with my system (shut mine off, use TomTom's) |
| 21:56.59 | Dashkal | By god, a developer who actively encourages competition |
| 21:57.07 | Dashkal | fear |
| 21:57.19 | Hjalte | ckknight: Now that you're asking, I am guessing it's because I am not used to moving around using only zoom. I just tried that now, and it actually works quite nice. No need to drag. |
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| 21:57.34 | ckknight | I don't want to be a monopolistic dick and shut people out, I want there to be some level of interoperability |
| 21:57.53 | ckknight | but I don't think that TomTom is the be-all end-all solution, I think I could do a bit better |
| 21:57.56 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 21:58.07 | Dashkal | Absolutely agreed. Just a rare thing among software designers |
| 21:58.15 | stew_a | got him to 12% in about 25 mins, then we wiped |
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| 21:58.23 | Dashkal | ouch... |
| 21:58.31 | Dashkal | cross fingers for a fix when he resets? |
| 21:58.38 | Pkekyo| | humms... "Roll, roll, roll a joint, twist it at the ends. Light it up, take a puff and pass it to your friends..." |
| 21:58.42 | Xinhuan | stew_a, are you serious about a 25 min curator? |
| 21:58.45 | stew_a | yep |
| 21:58.49 | Xinhuan | most people kill him in 2 minutes tops |
| 21:58.51 | Xinhuan | not 25 |
| 21:58.56 | stew_a | yeah but he resets threat |
| 21:58.58 | stew_a | every 10 seconds |
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| 21:59.06 | Xinhuan | by "most people", i mean pugs |
| 21:59.09 | stew_a | so we've been wanding and rank 1 spelling him |
| 21:59.17 | Xinhuan | err curator doesn't reset threat, ever |
| 21:59.19 | Hjalte | ckknight: I'm guessing the only reason I wanted to be able to move the map using eg. the movement keys, is because I'm missing the option to center a city or a zone, using eg. doubleclick. I think I'll have a much easier time using the addon when that is implemented. |
| 21:59.29 | stew_a | read up, he's severely bugged for us |
| 21:59.37 | Xinhuan | what's bugged? |
| 21:59.51 | stew_a | curator... |
| 21:59.57 | Xinhuan | i mean, what about him is bugged? |
| 22:00.13 | stew_a | he resets his threat, berserk timer and debuffs every 10 seconds |
| 22:00.25 | hypetech | haha |
| 22:00.27 | hypetech | that's awesome |
| 22:00.28 | Dashkal | Xinhuan: I've seen that bug. In our case it was caused by a mob stuck in a wall. Fucked curator right up and he resets everything but health every 10 seconds |
| 22:00.30 | Xinhuan | i would suggest you skip the boss and end kara ;p |
| 22:00.39 | Xinhuan | wait for a soft reset (30 min) |
| 22:00.42 | Xinhuan | then go in and try again |
| 22:00.45 | stew_a | its ok we're gonna get him down this try |
| 22:00.56 | stew_a | he's at 58% and we're wanding away :-) |
| 22:01.25 | Xinhuan | hardcore ;p |
| 22:01.33 | AckisWork | well it's been 2 hours since my last commit :P looks like i might get away with no typo fixes when i get home in an hour :P |
| 22:01.41 | stew_a | totally |
| 22:01.47 | Dashkal | wow :p |
| 22:02.52 | Xinhuan | that's probably because while i have ARL installed, i haven't actually enabled it on my char login screen for 3 months ;p |
| 22:03.07 | AckisWork | ouch :P |
| 22:03.12 | Xinhuan | (because i have every single JC/ench recipe) |
| 22:03.29 | AckisWork | lol |
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| 22:04.07 | AckisWork | that's a problem I have when testing things out... I have 95% of all enchanting recipes and am only missing 2 alchemy ones so testing was annoying at the start |
| 22:04.10 | Xinhuan | i'm missing a few cooking ones, but hey, not much i can do about it apart from doing the cooking dailies everyday |
| 22:04.18 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: pong |
| 22:05.29 | CIA-38 | 03elsia * r70378 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: |
| 22:05.29 | CIA-38 | Recount: |
| 22:05.29 | CIA-38 | - Fixed likely stutter cause in main window bar color code. |
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| 22:07.14 | ckknight | added double-clicking zooming to zone for Cart3: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/ada14ab8e645ea2846f9616c900f51925c9fc7ce.tar.gz |
| 22:07.17 | ckknight | Hjalte: ^--- |
| 22:07.27 | aestil | ckknight: thats cool. does escape close the map yet? |
| 22:07.33 | Hjalte | ckknight: yay, i'll try it :) |
| 22:08.21 | Hjalte | ckknight: by the way, when using the zoom button, the map seems to stop updating when zoom is done, and I have to move the mouse back over the map to make it update again. |
| 22:08.25 | ckknight | aestil: no, I'll make an option for that, but I don't want that to be the default, I'll add transparency options as well, so unhovering could make it very transparent |
| 22:08.36 | ckknight | Hjalte: update? |
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| 22:09.06 | ckknight | Hjalte: what do you mean by that? |
| 22:10.31 | aestil | ckknight: why should that not be the default behavior? |
| 22:10.59 | Hjalte | ckknight: You might be able to reproduce it by flying in circles (pressing either left or right making your bird go round and round), making your arrow spin around, then pressing the Z button. If you keep your mouse still, but keep left or right, the arrow will stop spinning around untill you hover the actual map with your mouse. |
| 22:11.08 | ckknight | aestil: because I want people to have the map open while questing and the like, it's not meant to cover a large part of the screen |
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| 22:11.19 | Hjalte | keep left or right pressed* |
| 22:11.40 | Xinhuan | (he wants it to be used as a possible minimap replacement) |
| 22:11.43 | aestil | well, it needs to 'auto show' where you are then. |
| 22:12.04 | TheZanke | Do you quarrel sir? |
| 22:12.11 | ckknight | aestil: yea, it will. |
| 22:12.19 | Xinhuan | (meaning, it can function like the minimap, but not really like the minimap since it can't do indoor areas) |
| 22:12.19 | ckknight | aestil: I'm gonna make it follow you by default |
| 22:12.46 | Xinhuan | i noted the cart3 map is "brighter" than the actual minimap ck |
| 22:12.50 | Xinhuan | because of the transparency |
| 22:13.06 | Xinhuan | with the "world map" behind the minimap textures |
| 22:13.37 | Xinhuan | its very visible with the letters on the world map underimposed like a watermark |
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| 22:14.10 | Pkekyo| | my car is awesome...handles in 240km/h just like it does in 150km/h...it sticks to the road like wet pussy on a hardwood floor! |
| 22:14.20 | ckknight | Xinhuan: the minimap textures are 100% alpha |
| 22:14.36 | Xinhuan | the version i used 2 weeks ago wasn't |
| 22:14.41 | Xinhuan | it was around 90% or so |
| 22:14.55 | ckknight | correct. |
| 22:15.10 | ckknight | I think the actual minimap is tinted |
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| 22:15.42 | Xinhuan | do a GetVertexColor on minimap, what does it say? heh |
| 22:16.11 | Xinhuan | or whatever frame name the actual minimap is |
| 22:16.53 | ckknight | minimaps are special. |
| 22:17.20 | Xinhuan | i remember someone said there can only be one Minimap frame at any one time, is that true? |
| 22:17.51 | ckknight | that is true |
| 22:18.02 | Xinhuan | what happens if you show 2 at the same time |
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| 22:18.22 | Xinhuan | chinchilla's Expander minimap is definitely a 2nd minimap frame |
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| 22:19.34 | Zhinjio | G'morning, ckk |
| 22:19.38 | Zhinjio | heya Xinhuan |
| 22:19.39 | ckknight | morning, Zhinjio |
| 22:19.42 | aestil | did the latest WAU break the program? |
| 22:19.45 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no it's not, it's the same minimap. |
| 22:19.55 | ckknight | I think... |
| 22:20.11 | Xinhuan | minimap = CreateFrame("Minimap", "Chinchilla_Expander_Minimap", UIParent) |
| 22:20.21 | Xinhuan | pretty sure you created a Minimap frame type |
| 22:20.28 | aestil | lol. |
| 22:20.34 | aestil | ckknight is exposed. he doesn't know what he did. |
| 22:20.42 | ckknight | I forget |
| 22:20.44 | Xinhuan | line 29 |
| 22:20.44 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 22:20.53 | JoshBork1 | aestil: bad ads in wau is bad |
| 22:20.54 | Ellipsis | yeah, it creates a second minimap frame |
| 22:20.55 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, but you have to hide the original map or it fucks up, I believe |
| 22:21.03 | ckknight | unless I'm mistaken |
| 22:21.04 | Ellipsis | if you don't hide the original the mask applies to both |
| 22:21.06 | ckknight | I might be. |
| 22:21.17 | Xinhuan | that's the thing, did u try it? ;p |
| 22:21.22 | Ellipsis | he did |
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| 22:21.23 | Ellipsis | I watched |
| 22:21.24 | ckknight | no |
| 22:21.24 | Xinhuan | i know i didn't hehe |
| 22:21.28 | Ellipsis | >:( |
| 22:21.32 | ckknight | did I? |
| 22:21.34 | ckknight | I might've |
| 22:21.35 | Ellipsis | you did |
| 22:21.36 | ckknight | I totally forget |
| 22:21.39 | Ellipsis | you were looking at how smm did it |
| 22:21.43 | Xinhuan | what happened when he did |
| 22:21.47 | Ellipsis | so you tried it to see if you could come up with a better way |
| 22:21.59 | Xinhuan | did both minimaps blackout? |
| 22:22.02 | Xinhuan | or something weirder? |
| 22:22.05 | Ellipsis | if you don't hide the other minimap, the mask applies to both (so it gets cut off depending on the position of the other minimap) |
| 22:22.08 | aestil | JoshBork1: so, for now, WAU is, like you borked? |
| 22:22.12 | Ellipsis | it looks really weird |
| 22:22.16 | aestil | JoshBork1: what is your +dmg up to? |
| 22:22.22 | aestil | are you going for the haste itemization now? |
| 22:22.34 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 22:22.39 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 22:22.42 | JoshBork1 | aestil: i stopped playing at the end of march |
| 22:22.49 | Xinhuan | so that sounds like a "bug" resulting from wow's internal masking/optimization |
| 22:22.50 | JoshBork1 | aestil: like 2 days after 2.4 came out |
| 22:23.02 | Ellipsis | yeah, it may have changed when they fixed mask rotation though? |
| 22:23.04 | Ellipsis | dunno |
| 22:23.18 | Hjalte | ckknight: Why the difference between automatic zooming on zones and on cities? - This addtionally creates a problem regarding Ironforge, seeing as doubleclicking it right now just zoomes in on the mountain above the city :) |
| 22:23.20 | ckknight | Ellipsis: they didn't fix mask rotation last I checked. |
| 22:23.36 | ckknight | Hjalte: it's because the city is indoors |
| 22:23.42 | ckknight | Hjalte: other cities work fine |
| 22:23.46 | Ellipsis | ckknight: but nandini said? |
| 22:23.49 | Xinhuan | i don't think cart3 can do indoor areas |
| 22:23.49 | ckknight | Hjalte: I'll fix the indoor cities eventually |
| 22:23.53 | ckknight | Ellipsis: but I tested. |
| 22:23.59 | Stanzilla | instance maps would be nice |
| 22:24.00 | Ellipsis | hmkay |
| 22:24.01 | Xinhuan | at least, not yet |
| 22:24.06 | ckknight | Stanzilla: yea, I'll do that |
| 22:24.10 | ckknight | Xinhuan: likely just cities. |
| 22:24.12 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 22:24.15 | ckknight | and instances |
| 22:24.20 | Xinhuan | i think some instance maps will be completely fucked |
| 22:24.20 | NivFreak | ckknight: is there some trick to getting pet happiness in a verbose form in pitbull? |
| 22:24.25 | Xinhuan | try the BWL one lol |
| 22:24.31 | NivFreak | ckknight: say on mouseover of the icon |
| 22:24.31 | Xinhuan | where its layered on each other |
| 22:24.33 | Xinhuan | or karazhan |
| 22:25.07 | aestil | JoshBorke: ah. |
| 22:25.31 | ckknight | NivFreak: [if HappyNum = 1 then "Angry" elseif HappyNum = 2 then "Content" elseif HappyNum = 3 then "Happy" end] |
| 22:25.31 | JoshBorke | aestil: and even then i hadn't been in a guild for 4 weeks |
| 22:25.31 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 22:25.35 | Ellipsis | NivFreak: the icon is just a texture, can't mouseover it |
| 22:25.38 | NivFreak | ckknight: hah, so dogtag only eh? |
| 22:25.42 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 22:25.48 | NivFreak | oh well |
| 22:25.52 | ckknight | NivFreak: all texts are handled by DogTag |
| 22:25.57 | ckknight | also, there might be [HappyText] or something |
| 22:26.03 | Hjalte | I guess instance maps in Cartographer 3 won't be worse than in the current Cartographer :) |
| 22:26.03 | ckknight | check /dog and search for Happ |
| 22:26.13 | ckknight | Hjalte: yea :-) |
| 22:26.15 | CIA-38 | 03ackis * r70379 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 22:26.15 | CIA-38 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:26.15 | CIA-38 | - Typo fixes :( |
| 22:26.15 | CIA-38 | - All dry-coded |
| 22:26.15 | AckisWork | sighs |
| 22:26.21 | NivFreak | I'm just used to most unit frames that have a popup with that info |
| 22:26.25 | aestil | ckknight: for sure, instance loot module would be a part of cart 3? |
| 22:26.28 | NivFreak | I'll add a tag |
| 22:26.29 | Xinhuan | not like you actually need an instance map anyway, after running an instance more than twice |
| 22:26.35 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: brd? :P |
| 22:26.38 | Xinhuan | maybe BRD is the only exception |
| 22:26.40 | aestil | i would love to have a really robust instance loot module. |
| 22:26.40 | charon | hmm. trunk or branch? anyone have a coin to toss? ;) |
| 22:26.42 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: ST? |
| 22:26.48 | ckknight | aestil: I want to totally revamp that, but yes. |
| 22:26.48 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 22:26.48 | Xinhuan | i have both memorized |
| 22:26.50 | Xinhuan | in my head |
| 22:26.52 | NivFreak | I do too |
| 22:26.52 | Arrowmaster | me too |
| 22:26.54 | NivFreak | but most don't |
| 22:26.55 | Hjalte | ckknight: Do you have any thoughs yet on how to do acces instance maps btw? buttons on the map? |
| 22:27.03 | Xinhuan | then they need to play wow more :D |
| 22:27.11 | Hjalte | That sentence came out wrong, but anyway |
| 22:27.15 | ckknight | Hjalte: my current thought is to make them like their own continents, off to the side. |
| 22:27.22 | ckknight | I'm not sure yet |
| 22:27.26 | aestil | ckknight: well, if this ends, in me getting a better instance loot module, then i'll be happy. i'm going to continue to lobby for a new parrot which includes power aura features as a module. |
| 22:27.29 | Pkekyo| | how the flying fuck do you -play- a recorder? |
| 22:27.29 | Pkekyo| | wouldn't you -record- stuff with a recorder? am I missing something here? |
| 22:27.31 | Dashkal | <CIA-38>ackis * r70379 AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: <<- *snickers* |
| 22:27.33 | Arrowmaster | i know somebody that could have probably gotten lost in hyjal, hes gotten lost in almost every other instance |
| 22:27.40 | CIA-38 | 03alar * r70380 10AlarBGHelper/ (. AlarBGHelper.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): AlarBGHelper GloryLib now wants LibZone-3.0 instead of Zone-2.2. Updated externals |
| 22:27.46 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: a recorder is a type of instrument |
| 22:27.52 | Pkekyo| | JoshBorke: wth? |
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| 22:27.54 | Ellipsis | LibZone? lulz |
| 22:27.57 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: similar to a clarinet and a flue being mixed (but much older) |
| 22:28.09 | aestil | OMG, STOP EVERYTHING, I HAVE TO GO UPDATE AlarBGHelper!!!!?!?!?! WWWWTTTTDFFFFF. |
| 22:28.13 | AckisWork | ~lart Dashkal |
| 22:28.13 | purl | squishes Dashkal like a bug |
| 22:28.15 | Pkekyo| | oh, that horrible shit you are forced to play as a kid? (lower school grades) |
| 22:28.17 | JoshBorke | Pkekyo|: flute rather, and i'm implying that the recorder came first |
| 22:28.19 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 22:28.24 | Tuller | ckknight: the real question about cart earth: what are you going to do with it? :P |
| 22:28.32 | Pkekyo| | ok, makes a bit more sense then |
| 22:28.40 | Hjalte | ckknight: That's not a bad idea, but you should at least make a reference to the instance at where its actual position is, could be a button zooming to the instance map :) That's one of the features I'm missing in the current cartographer at least |
| 22:28.43 | AckisWork | I was hoping my commit got list |
| 22:28.50 | Pkekyo| | why anyone would want to listen to the crap though still boggles my mind, but meh...that's for another time and another place |
| 22:28.51 | ckknight | Tuller: replace Cart2, possibly brand it with a curse flame so I can work on it at work |
| 22:28.51 | Dashkal | :p |
| 22:28.58 | FtH|Daemona | Tuller i heard it can go ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM ;) |
| 22:28.59 | CIA-38 | 03charon 07charon * r70381 10Omen/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Omen: Add auto-hide feature to go along with autocollapse |
| 22:28.59 | aestil | lol. |
| 22:29.14 | Xinhuan | whoa charon is making sweeping changes ;p |
| 22:29.19 | ckknight | Hjalte: yea, it might just be a button you can click on the normal map that zooms you to the instance :-P |
| 22:29.26 | Xinhuan | i only fix bugs here and there at most hehe |
| 22:29.37 | aestil | ckknight: can you make it so that instances are 'clickable' on the world map, like the city maps are now, and it would alow easy, intuitive access to the instance maps [with instance loot modules and everything] without going through menu's? |
| 22:29.46 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: make another zoom level where you zoom in over an instance entrance/location and it removes the outside world and just shows the instance |
| 22:29.51 | charon | Xinhuan: that one's been requested a couple times... i'll merge as soon as i've sorted out the rest of the branch work that's been pending |
| 22:29.53 | ckknight | aestil: yea, basically. |
| 22:30.06 | aestil | bg maps could theoretically work the same way. |
| 22:30.07 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I think that's a bad idea, e.g. for Kara, BRD, etc. |
| 22:30.13 | ckknight | becomes hard. |
| 22:30.19 | aestil | ckknight: is it possible to have the map behavior work with 'throwing the map'? |
| 22:30.21 | Ellipsis | watches |
| 22:30.24 | Pkekyo| | once rickrolled a girl in the back of a car... |
| 22:30.24 | Xinhuan | most of what i do involves taking bugsack error reports and debugging them to their root cause |
| 22:30.25 | aestil | if we don't want to zoom out. |
| 22:30.27 | Ellipsis | oh wait, that was a message not an action |
| 22:30.29 | ckknight | throwing the map? |
| 22:30.34 | aestil | can i click and throw to slide farther? |
| 22:30.36 | Xinhuan | even if it means breaking down AceComm and AceEvent into 200 pieces ;p |
| 22:30.39 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis |
| 22:30.45 | Ellipsis | licks Pkekyo| |
| 22:30.47 | ckknight | aestil: I don't think that's a great idea |
| 22:30.57 | aestil | i like that feature on google map. |
| 22:31.07 | Zhinjio | ok, its nearly beer o'clock. |
| 22:31.11 | Pkekyo| | rickrolls Ellipsis in the backseat of a volkswagen |
| 22:31.14 | AckisWork | heads home... |
| 22:31.14 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you dont have to keep instance maps on an equal scale if you dont show the world map when you show the instance |
| 22:31.25 | Zhinjio | cute, perfumey waitresses await. Peace y'all. |
| 22:31.37 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: actually, it makes things easier if 1 yard = 1 yard always |
| 22:31.44 | aestil | Cryect: will old recount get a H. MgT module? |
| 22:31.45 | ckknight | currently, everything's to scale, I like it that way |
| 22:31.55 | ckknight | Zhinjio: *thumbs up* |
| 22:32.28 | Matrix110| | erm aestil since when does recount have "modules" for instances? |
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| 22:32.59 | aestil | must have something in it. |
| 22:33.05 | Pkekyo| | why is the generic answer "like what, in the back of a volkswagen?" to the statement "I'm going to <verb> <female> in a very uncomfortable place"? :p |
| 22:33.11 | aestil | because it doesn't split the combat log. |
| 22:33.16 | Tuller | so yes uhh...waypoints + a legend |
| 22:33.24 | Tuller | very much a "find shit around me thing" |
| 22:33.36 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: have you never seen mallrats? |
| 22:33.43 | Cryect | aestil, ask elsia |
| 22:33.44 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: I just did... :p |
| 22:33.51 | CIA-38 | 03Octane666 * r70382 10SpamMeNot/ (Detection.lua Hooks.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 22:33.51 | CIA-38 | SpamMeNot: |
| 22:33.51 | CIA-38 | - Reverted back to hooking ChatFrame_OnEvent |
| 22:33.54 | Hjalte | aestil: what do you mean with split the combat log? |
| 22:33.55 | aestil | it just 'last' or 'current' |
| 22:34.03 | Pkekyo| | I just wanna know why everyone answers that |
| 22:34.13 | aestil | Hjalte: should be able to split boss encounters out. |
| 22:34.14 | Pkekyo| | is there something about america and volkswagens I don't know? |
| 22:34.22 | aestil | maybe i'm way off here. |
| 22:34.25 | Arrowmaster | volkswagens are small |
| 22:34.31 | aestil | everyone jumped on me pretty quick when i asked for it ;) |
| 22:34.37 | aestil | Cryect: how is recount 2 going? :_ |
| 22:34.41 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster`: dependant on model |
| 22:34.48 | Cryect | aestil, its coming and I've been busy |
| 22:34.58 | Pkekyo| | I reckon a caravelle could be rather comfy tbh |
| 22:35.00 | aestil | cool. |
| 22:35.05 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: that answer comes from way back, when the volkswagen where really small |
| 22:35.06 | Tuller | not really setup as a "where am I at?" thing |
| 22:35.08 | Hjalte | aestil: Oh. Are you thinking of the newly added "keep boss segments only" feature, that makes Recount only save raid boss fights? |
| 22:35.13 | Tuller | but more of a "what's around this area to eat" |
| 22:35.18 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: at the time that movie was made 'volkswagen' refered to a vw bug |
| 22:35.24 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 22:35.25 | Pkekyo| | right |
| 22:35.32 | CIA-38 | 03charon * r70383 10Omen/ (17 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:35.32 | CIA-38 | Omen: merge my branch |
| 22:35.32 | CIA-38 | - shuffle AOE logic a bit to color even raid-marked target blue |
| 22:35.32 | CIA-38 | - make tank mode threat ceiling configurable |
| 22:35.32 | CIA-38 | - add auto-hide feature to go along with autocollapse |
| 22:35.32 | Pkekyo| | did they have backseats? o.O' |
| 22:35.37 | charon | there. let's hope that works cleanly despite the fact that i've used it for a while now, except for the autohide code which is kinda new :p |
| 22:35.38 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 22:35.44 | Arrowmaster | but theyre very small |
| 22:35.44 | Pkekyo| | that's sick |
| 22:35.45 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|: kinda =P if you could call them that |
| 22:35.51 | aestil | well, i like that feature, but it used to keep segments which started and stopped for every instance of combat. |
| 22:35.53 | aestil | right? |
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| 22:36.08 | aestil | so at least with that, you could always look at a boss fight, as a combat instance. |
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| 22:36.15 | aestil | so yeah, i guess i'm thinking of that feature. |
| 22:36.22 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: soeh... it had undesignated space between driver seat and back wall?: p |
| 22:36.37 | nevcairiel | yeah but it even had seats on it |
| 22:36.47 | nevcairiel | just you couldnt get in there .. or sit there for that matter |
| 22:36.48 | Pkekyo| | zomg |
| 22:37.08 | Pkekyo| | I want a bug tbh...fit it with a rollcage and tractor wheels =D |
| 22:37.13 | Hjalte | aestil: I'm quite sure, that for quite some time, recount has only been saving 5 fights, current fight and overall data. then elsia added the boss fight toggle. |
| 22:37.20 | nevcairiel | but obviously you could have fun on that so-called backseat |
| 22:37.44 | nevcairiel | it just had to happen because it was so tight :P |
| 22:37.46 | Cryect | Heh, yeah because I never finished the issues with letting you change the number of fights on the fly :-p |
| 22:37.57 | Cryect | so was hardcoded to whatever number was set in the file |
| 22:38.16 | Pkekyo| | rofl nevcairiel |
| 22:38.18 | aestil | Hjalte: couldn't that be added for the baby instances as well? |
| 22:38.30 | Pkekyo| | I'm definitely getting a bug then |
| 22:38.54 | Hjalte | aestil: Elsia will be able to answer that :) |
| 22:38.55 | Cryect | and I'm pretty sure all it does is look for something that claims tobe a worldboss |
| 22:39.04 | Cryect | so it should work on anything thats labeled as a boss |
| 22:39.34 | Tuller | ckknight: uhh...make it bigger, and center it on the player's location at load. That is, appear to be the normal map :P |
| 22:39.53 | ckknight | well, it zooms to the current zone on load |
| 22:40.05 | ckknight | and you can drag it to resize |
| 22:40.07 | ckknight | drag sides |
| 22:42.57 | Tuller | that cursor is not obvious :P |
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| 22:43.17 | charon | does innervate mana gain cause threat? |
| 22:43.42 | Hjalte | charon: Doesn't all mana gain cause threat, except for like Lifetap? |
| 22:44.13 | charon | Hjalte: that was an honest question, i got so many mechanics wrong in that area :( |
| 22:44.16 | Cryect | no you don't get threat for mana gains anymore |
| 22:44.25 | nevcairiel | since when? |
| 22:44.27 | Cryect | especailly not ones that don't have a combat log message |
| 22:44.43 | Hjalte | charon: I don't know the answer, I just know that Lifetap doesn't cause any threat :) |
| 22:44.45 | nevcairiel | yeah normal regen doesnt give you threat |
| 22:44.45 | Cryect | I thought thats how they changed it with wisdom ticks? |
| 22:44.52 | Cryect | but innervate is normal ticks |
| 22:44.58 | nevcairiel | but like mana pots or wisdom gives you threat |
| 22:44.59 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 22:45.00 | Tuller | also uhh... |
| 22:45.08 | Tuller | terrain / map option |
| 22:45.12 | Tuller | google has it, too :P |
| 22:45.15 | charon | hmm. so to test that spell_energize, i'd have to chug a potion. ok |
| 22:45.22 | ckknight | Tuller: to switch between? |
| 22:45.28 | ckknight | Tuller: yea, I plan to add a toggle |
| 22:45.33 | nevcairiel | charon: get a pally do buff you wisdom |
| 22:45.41 | nevcairiel | s/do/to/ |
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| 22:46.09 | Tuller | I like the use of adding more detail as a highlight |
| 22:46.14 | nevcairiel | or did they remove the combatlog messages of wisdom? |
| 22:46.20 | Tuller | but there should probably be a "go into the more detailed map" level zoom |
| 22:46.23 | charon | nevcairiel: well -1 useless pvp mana potion ;) |
| 22:46.23 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona, badboy missed anything yet? |
| 22:46.26 | Tuller | instead of a straight transition from nothing to something |
| 22:46.34 | FtH|Daemona | nope |
| 22:46.39 | Funkeh` | damn |
| 22:46.43 | nevcairiel | charon: life tap gives you spell_energize for mana too, if that helps |
| 22:46.48 | nevcairiel | (and i have a lock) |
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| 22:47.08 | charon | well, i'm just randomly testing different events to see if the CLEU changes on my branch broke anything |
| 22:47.23 | charon | so if you want to give that a shot, sure. but mana pots register :) |
| 22:47.34 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 22:50.08 | Xinhuan | i hope you bought a 10 silver cheapo mana pot from Ah to test that ;p |
| 22:51.41 | charon | as i said, i took one of the pvp pots ... i don't really pvp, there was a time when i bought them for raiding but there aren't many chances to use mana pots as a feral anyway |
| 22:52.06 | Dashkal | When you accidently powershift one too many times :p |
| 22:53.05 | charon | lazy cat is lazy :( |
| 22:53.13 | VonhintenHOME` | the time lost doing that probably lost all that you gained from powershifting |
| 22:53.15 | charon | and druid mana bars help, too |
| 22:53.50 | Dashkal | druid mana bars tend to get confused by powershifting |
| 22:53.59 | Dashkal | since a powershift is direct energy->energy |
| 22:54.26 | charon | haven't had any problems with the one in pitbull... except in corner cases like the mana reduction on ROS |
| 22:54.31 | Dashkal | I just keep a rejuv pot from the gathering daily on hand at all times just in case |
| 22:54.46 | nevcairiel | the gathering daily is evil |
| 22:54.51 | nevcairiel | at least as herbalist |
| 22:54.52 | Dashkal | the one in IceHUD can't account for powershifting |
| 22:54.57 | nevcairiel | the drop rate is so low |
| 22:55.01 | Dashkal | Oh it's evil, but it makes me make myself money so I don't bitch |
| 22:55.11 | ThiefMaster | heh you don't need pots at all if you have a t6 shadowpriest in your group (as a hunter) :D |
| 22:55.15 | VonhintenHOME` | I usually don't do the gathering one in a day, I just keep them around until I'm done it |
| 22:55.41 | VonhintenHOME` | but it depends when you do it on my server, in the middle of the night (EST), I can herb without opposition |
| 22:55.44 | Dashkal | Heh, I'm never in the mana regen group as melee dps. I just power shift for a quick burst of damage when needed and usually stop before I oom |
| 22:55.55 | charon | Dashkal: do you use a /cast !Cat Form or a /cancelform; /cast Cat Form macro? |
| 22:56.06 | Dashkal | charon: I have no idea, actually |
| 22:56.14 | nevcairiel | wouldnt /cast !Cat Form like .. not work? |
| 22:56.19 | Dashkal | I know I use the latter in my use pot macro |
| 22:56.21 | nevcairiel | i though ! was "only activate" |
| 22:56.33 | charon | *shrug* i use the long form |
| 22:56.36 | Dashkal | I think I use the latter in the straight powershift as well, but I'm not sure |
| 22:56.46 | charon | just figured that might make a difference for addons |
| 22:56.48 | charon | then again it might not |
| 22:56.53 | Dashkal | but even when I use the pot macro the druid bar doesn't update |
| 22:57.22 | Dashkal | I don't depend on it. If I actually need a count before a fight I can always just powershift until oom and count |
| 22:57.31 | charon | nevcairiel: typing /cast !Cat Form in cat form powershifts |
| 22:57.37 | Dashkal | but in most cases I need that burst it's three or four shifts and the window is over |
| 22:57.38 | ThiefMaster | <Dashkal> Heh, I'm never in the mana regen group as melee dps <- i also don't get shadows usually.. but well.. it was a gruul/maggy raid with randoms and we were two hunters - and i rolled higher than the other one -> i had shaman+shadow while he only got a shaman in his group :D (my mana never went below ~90%) |
| 22:57.46 | Dashkal | (curator is the most common case) |
| 22:58.16 | Dashkal | heh, nice |
| 22:58.47 | Dashkal | I need to work out exactly what the DPS is over time in power shifting vs shreding |
| 22:59.08 | charon | toskk's tells you what one powershift per cycle is worth |
| 22:59.22 | sylvanaar | wdn needs to add build 8125 |
| 22:59.29 | Dashkal | cause when I PS it's pure mangle. Waiting the tick for the shred murders the point |
| 22:59.39 | Dashkal | damn gcd |
| 23:00.03 | Dashkal | charon: where? I have no idea where these spreadsheets come from |
| 23:00.06 | charon | uh, that sounds a lot like actually losing dmg in the end, since the entire point is mangling just often enough, but not more |
| 23:00.25 | Dashkal | it's PS/mangle/ps/mangle hammering on the GCD |
| 23:00.37 | charon | http://druid.wikispaces.com/ToskksDPSGearMethod |
| 23:00.46 | charon | calculator around the middle |
| 23:00.51 | Dashkal | letting me mangle every other GCD instead of shreding every 2.whatever ticks |
| 23:00.59 | charon | but as i said, i'm lazy. i only powershift if i'm <10 energy and feel like it |
| 23:01.04 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: they probably typoed in their 8124 entry, or where there two copys of 2.4.1 i dont know about? |
| 23:01.18 | Dashkal | it's just a burst tactic for me. Mostly I mangle to keep it up and shred/rip |
| 23:01.40 | Dashkal | shred/rip is much better sustained DPS. powershifting drains you right quick without natural shapeshifter |
| 23:01.44 | sylvanaar | idk - the current build is 8125, could be a typo too |
| 23:01.54 | VonhintenHOME` | you need natural shapeshifter |
| 23:02.20 | Dashkal | why? |
| 23:02.25 | nevcairiel | so you can powershift! |
| 23:02.37 | Dashkal | eh, I don't PS enough to make those points worth it |
| 23:02.43 | Dashkal | I got a major DPS boost by dumping it |
| 23:02.55 | Dashkal | I only really PS for curator or illhoof |
| 23:03.05 | charon | dumping it for what other talent? |
| 23:03.22 | Dashkal | um... I forget... It was so long ago I don't remember which talent the points went to :p |
| 23:03.36 | charon | heh |
| 23:03.56 | Dashkal | Savrine@Maelstrom-us if you want to rip apart my talent build (It's DPS/Tank brid at tier 4 level) |
| 23:03.56 | charon | i'm the kind of feral who won't hesitate to shift to bear and back just to charge those 15m instead of walking them, so i have it :p |
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| 23:04.49 | CIA-38 | 037destiny * r70384 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua: |
| 23:04.49 | CIA-38 | Recount: |
| 23:04.49 | CIA-38 | - koKR Update |
| 23:04.55 | Dashkal | If I start doing battlegrounds more I'll take it back. (With arenas I'd just bite it and go pvp-resto). But for solo/raiding this spec suits me well |
| 23:05.22 | charon | huh, armory says you're actually specced shapeshifter |
| 23:05.30 | Dashkal | murr? |
| 23:05.45 | charon | ah, that was only warcrafter's change |
| 23:05.56 | charon | *cache |
| 23:05.57 | Dashkal | warcrafter is badly out of date |
| 23:06.02 | Dashkal | I haven't updated it in a long while |
| 23:06.07 | charon | i just resynced |
| 23:06.11 | Dashkal | good |
| 23:06.15 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxhGsfroezioVxhz .. even has 3 points left that dont provide DPS in a general raiding cycle, just other benefits .. dont know why i wouldnt spec NS |
| 23:06.29 | Dashkal | I need to redo my gear sets on warcrafter. I've had quite a few upgrades since then |
| 23:07.03 | Dashkal | I'm in my PvE Raiding set in that snapshot |
| 23:08.18 | charon | nevcairiel: if you want primal tenacity too, which is quite nice in raids IMO, that leaves just 3 points for shapeshifter and bash... both of which are nice |
| 23:08.37 | nevcairiel | resisting fear while everyone else is feared |
| 23:08.38 | nevcairiel | =bad |
| 23:08.39 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:08.43 | nevcairiel | unless you tank anyway |
| 23:08.49 | charon | it's been changed N patches ago |
| 23:08.54 | Dashkal | they fixed the fear aggro mechanics |
| 23:09.01 | nevcairiel | oh right |
| 23:09.02 | nevcairiel | forgot that |
| 23:09.14 | EvilJohn_ | unless the fear effect is intimidating shout |
| 23:09.19 | Dashkal | but I often tank hence charge/thick hide/survival of the fittest |
| 23:09.37 | charon | Dashkal: those aren't up for discussion anyway ;) |
| 23:09.40 | Dashkal | heh |
| 23:09.55 | Dashkal | If I ever go pure melee DPS (not likely) only charge would remain, I'd spend the other points elsewhere |
| 23:10.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Intensity is nice |
| 23:10.06 | Dashkal | NI and FA likely |
| 23:10.14 | VonhintenHOME` | give enrage instant rage |
| 23:10.25 | Dashkal | intensity will be taken if I ever go pure tank |
| 23:10.31 | nevcairiel | Intensity is one of those talents a feral specs that is a pure-hearted tank |
| 23:10.37 | Dashkal | cause yes, it's a cool talent |
| 23:10.47 | Dashkal | but I needed those points in my feral tree |
| 23:11.05 | nevcairiel | we need more points! |
| 23:11.06 | charon | nevcairiel: now i'm a sad bear ;) |
| 23:11.09 | Dashkal | oh yeah, I know where the shapeshifter points went. improved lotp and naturalist |
| 23:11.21 | nevcairiel | charon: why? o.O |
| 23:11.26 | Dashkal | I also gave up NI |
| 23:11.36 | Dashkal | which they promptly buffed of course |
| 23:11.42 | charon | nevcairiel: for most purposes i consider myself a pure-hearted tank, but i've never felt a need for that extra rage |
| 23:11.54 | VonhintenHOME` | should be able to get imp lotp no problem |
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| 23:12.16 | nevcairiel | charon: heh, yeah its not crucial, just nice to have |
| 23:12.17 | Dashkal | I used to hate imp lotp but I changed my opinion when I saw what it did to my health while soloing |
| 23:12.32 | Dashkal | in a raid it's just a nice secondary healing effect |
| 23:12.42 | charon | helps the rogues also |
| 23:12.45 | VonhintenHOME` | I play a rogue |
| 23:12.48 | Dashkal | my rogue loves it |
| 23:12.54 | Dashkal | but he loves the 5% crit more :p |
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| 23:12.59 | VonhintenHOME` | when I'm swinging at 1sec, with damn near 50% crit rating... yeah |
| 23:13.00 | VonhintenHOME` | I love it |
| 23:13.35 | Dashkal | LoTP is a given, you cannot be feral without it. Imp is debatable but on the balance I took it. |
| 23:13.53 | nevcairiel | our ferals even wear the idol of the raven goddess now |
| 23:14.01 | nevcairiel | because it provides like 0.9% more crit |
| 23:14.05 | Dashkal | I don't want to give up my idol of terror |
| 23:14.08 | VonhintenHOME` | hell yes |
| 23:14.14 | CIA-38 | 03zeksie * r70385 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Fixed (finally!) the missing clickability/buff timer bars on popup raid list for mage/druid/priest. |
| 23:14.15 | nevcairiel | (when in a rogue group that is, not when tanking) |
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| 23:14.49 | Dashkal | even in DPS I tend to use the terror, but I've never tested over time with the raven |
| 23:15.06 | Dashkal | I don't have everbloom so that isn't an option for me atm |
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| 23:15.27 | nevcairiel | everbloom is like 15 badges |
| 23:15.30 | nevcairiel | gogo buy .P |
| 23:15.30 | Dashkal | (not spending badges on ANYTHING other than the forest lord staff) |
| 23:15.40 | Dashkal | 44 and counting |
| 23:15.43 | Gary13579 | Tekkub: your horde guide makes me cry |
| 23:15.43 | Gary13579 | :( |
| 23:16.16 | Dashkal | sadly, they count slow. I get them from dailies mostly *shakes fist at east-cost guild raiding kara on weekdays* |
| 23:16.19 | VonhintenHOME` | can't beat 20crit strike for a whole group |
| 23:16.39 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: Next time I find myself in a phys-heavy group I'll consider it |
| 23:16.47 | Dashkal | But we don't take many phys DPS into kara. |
| 23:16.52 | Primer | Snago: Is there a way to make a default arena IHML? |
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| 23:17.12 | [EU]Gunder | Ackis, ping! |
| 23:17.21 | Dashkal | The only reason you even need them is the mana packs |
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| 23:17.32 | Ackis | Gunder, pong! |
| 23:17.41 | aestil | i did my first kara clear for badges the other day. 22 badges for eazy mode in 3 hours |
| 23:17.41 | charon | ~seen Antiarc |
| 23:17.49 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (11h 36m 36s) #wowace (11h 36m 36s) #curseforge (11h 36m 36s), last said: 'Yes.'. |
| 23:17.52 | aestil | thats a very good badge/hour rate. |
| 23:17.54 | Dashkal | oh god I wish we could do it in 3 hours.... |
| 23:18.02 | Dashkal | but sadly, we really are a kara guild so it's about 6 |
| 23:18.12 | [EU]Gunder | I won't be able to give you the translation in french for the hunter talents for the recipe list this week-end for personnal reasons |
| 23:18.14 | aestil | <- sunwell guild. |
| 23:18.30 | Dashkal | <-- kara guild that had a sweet sweet taste of 25 mans... then imploded back to 10s |
| 23:18.37 | aestil | lol. |
| 23:18.41 | Dashkal | not happy |
| 23:18.43 | [EU]Gunder | I won't be able to work on it until next Thursday |
| 23:18.46 | aestil | get the badge and heroic gear thats out there now. |
| 23:18.51 | aestil | you can easily go over to a hyjal guild. |
| 23:18.52 | Ackis | Gunder: np :) it's a service that you provide, not something I demand hehe I'm really just testing out new concepts to make it easier |
| 23:18.52 | Dashkal | I'm lighting a fire under the guild leader's ass to get is back there |
| 23:19.01 | Dashkal | It's numbers, not gear |
| 23:19.13 | Dashkal | we have approx 30-35 active 70s |
| 23:19.20 | [EU]Gunder | I just wanted to let you know ^^ |
| 23:19.21 | Dashkal | not _quite_ enough to consistantly 25 man |
| 23:19.26 | CIA-38 | 03zeksie * r70386 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Drycode fix for Warlock Detect Invis problem. Let me know if it works/fails. |
| 23:19.35 | charon | Dashkal: are you MT? |
| 23:19.44 | Dashkal | and the balance is just off enough to keep us from dual-kara right now |
| 23:19.52 | [EU]Gunder | night all! |
| 23:19.54 | Dashkal | charon: rarely. Mostly OT |
| 23:20.05 | Dashkal | Hence the dps/tank bryd spec |
| 23:20.19 | aestil | my old guild just killed kalecgos, or however you spell it, last week. |
| 23:20.38 | charon | ah well, i was going to say you should switch the violet signet for the tanking version because it's practically unbeatably good, but if you never MT what's the point |
| 23:20.46 | Dashkal | exactly |
| 23:20.51 | Ackis | oh WAU got an update |
| 23:21.01 | Dashkal | If I could raid weekdays I'd be able to MT, but I'm a west coast in an east coast guild |
| 23:21.55 | Dashkal | No, my main role in my guild is to light fires under the other officer's butts. I'm that annoying one who makes people actually do what they said they would in that last meeting :p |
| 23:22.15 | Zeksie | and now WAU puts a line thru ALL addons.. |
| 23:22.25 | Zeksie | no... ALL current addons |
| 23:22.43 | Dashkal | wait, wau got updated? sylvanaar, you working on it or did you send it to someone else? |
| 23:23.04 | Zeksie | yeh. all toc 20400 are strikethrough'd. others are not ;) |
| 23:23.06 | sylvanaar | i did it - i was sick of all the bitching |
| 23:23.11 | Dashkal | heh |
| 23:23.46 | CIA-38 | 03charon 07charon * r70387 10Threat-2.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: whore the CIA stats... er, fix obvious drycode mistake |
| 23:23.46 | sylvanaar | 20400 isnt detected because wdn has the wrong build number for the current client |
| 23:24.38 | sylvanaar | you can just add it to your user.config file, or turn on "load out of date addons" in wow |
| 23:26.06 | Ackis | anyone get errors in wow when you disable an add-on for a specific toon, it'll disable it for everytoon? |
| 23:27.15 | charon | i had that today but figured it was ACP's fault |
| 23:27.28 | Dashkal | WTB furor and omen in the tree they actually enhance... |
| 23:27.38 | charon | disabled chatter on an alt, then logged onto main and it was gone too |
| 23:27.43 | Dashkal | 2.0 helped, but meh... |
| 23:28.12 | Ackis | Charon: I've been getting that problem often, kinda frustrating... almost tempted to edit the addons.txt manually now |
| 23:28.51 | sylvanaar | look for ":disabled" in addons.txt |
| 23:29.00 | sylvanaar | or ":enabled" |
| 23:29.00 | Funkeh` | charon, lol |
| 23:29.06 | Funkeh` | charon, just try beating it http://www.ohloh.net/projects/4590/contributors |
| 23:29.23 | charon | i'm getting there, and git-svn dcommit spam is greatly helping me! ;) |
| 23:29.55 | Xinhuan | that page isn't even accurate funky ;p |
| 23:30.04 | Xinhuan | it lists me as having about half as much commits i've really done |
| 23:30.28 | Funkeh` | it's taken from CIA |
| 23:30.33 | Funkeh` | so when CIA is down.. |
| 23:30.40 | Xinhuan | by half, i mean about 380 or so vs 760 or so |
| 23:30.56 | Xinhuan | how does it miss 380 of my commits ;p |
| 23:31.01 | Xinhuan | does it like, not count branch commits? |
| 23:31.03 | Funkeh` | yeah same as every other person by balance |
| 23:31.07 | charon | Dashkal: wouldn't make a difference, would it? or at least i fail to see where you could save points by that move, or where those savings would open new options |
| 23:31.23 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` you have like 2x the commits i do |
| 23:31.34 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar, and? |
| 23:31.45 | Dashkal | I dislike having to choose between a delayed mangle/lotp and furor/omen |
| 23:32.06 | Dashkal | at 70? no difference whatsoever. But I really feel it leveling a new alt |
| 23:32.09 | charon | oh you mean while leveling |
| 23:32.13 | Dashkal | *nods* |
| 23:32.25 | sylvanaar | and thats alot, idk - there wasn't a followup |
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| 23:32.36 | Dashkal | I level faster with a feral than with a hunter, so Its always a kitty on a new server |
| 23:32.51 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:33.27 | charon | *shrug* i won't comment on that, i haven't played any other chars since TBC launch |
| 23:33.32 | Amadeo | I like Shaman leveling |
| 23:33.36 | charon | though 60->61 would have been easier with both mangle and omen ;) |
| 23:33.45 | Dashkal | oh hell yes it would have |
| 23:33.54 | Dashkal | choosing between mangle and omen was painful |
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| 23:34.23 | charon | rumours on the forum are, you should take omen and respec for mangle at 50 |
| 23:34.38 | Dashkal | mmm, that might be a plan next time |
| 23:34.49 | Dashkal | but I don't anticipate a reroll again until after 3.0 |
| 23:35.01 | charon | i think i had mangle before TBC and picked omen at 61 |
| 23:35.05 | Dashkal | the last two servers I tried to roll on dried up, I'm suspicious about any friends asking me again at this point :p |
| 23:35.27 | Pkekyo| | huh...I can't decide wether Starship Troopers is shitty or ingenious :/ |
| 23:35.38 | Dashkal | movie or book? |
| 23:35.42 | Pkekyo| | movie |
| 23:35.44 | Pkekyo| | first one |
| 23:35.48 | Pkekyo| | the second one was utter shite |
| 23:35.49 | Dashkal | I'd say ingenious. |
| 23:35.54 | Dashkal | Never saw the second, never will |
| 23:35.55 | Pkekyo| | I should get the book |
| 23:36.06 | Pkekyo| | you're lucky, the sequel is horrible |
| 23:36.10 | Dashkal | I say that because it managed to get across a lot of what the book said, but for a much dumber audience :p |
| 23:36.18 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
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| 23:36.47 | Dashkal | It actually managed to preserve some of what made the book good without becomming a sucky movie :p |
| 23:36.58 | Pkekyo| | few movies does that nowadays |
| 23:37.05 | Pkekyo| | so the book's worth the read? |
| 23:37.15 | Dashkal | only some, but when you read the book you'll understand why it would have made a crappy movie unchanged :p |
| 23:37.21 | Dashkal | I enjoyed it. ymmv |
| 23:37.49 | Pkekyo| | I ought to pick up the book then |
| 23:38.09 | Pkekyo| | for some reason I stopped reading litterature when I started collecting arseloads of DVDs :p |
| 23:38.20 | Dashkal | If you're debating the movine being shitty, I imagine the extra brain matter requirement of the book will be a plus |
| 23:38.39 | Pkekyo| | I used to read arseloads of lit so I reckon I can handle it |
| 23:38.47 | Dashkal | *snickers* |
| 23:39.13 | Pkekyo| | what does chocolate have to do with anything? :p |
| 23:39.18 | Dashkal | I've been plesantly surprised at how good adaptations have been lately. lotr started something |
| 23:39.37 | Dashkal | I'm gonna guess my typo "movine" has something to do with chocolate? |
| 23:39.42 | Pkekyo| | lotr was a pleasant surprise...except the 27 fucking endings of the third one :p |
| 23:39.43 | Dashkal | cause that went right over my head :p |
| 23:39.49 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: rather 'snickers' ;> |
| 23:39.53 | Dashkal | oh, heh |
| 23:39.55 | Dashkal | mmm, snickers |
| 23:39.57 | Dashkal | now I want one |
| 23:40.01 | Pkekyo| | I don't |
| 23:40.06 | Pkekyo| | :< |
| 23:40.16 | Dashkal | too close to the end of work to duck out to the corner store |
| 23:40.28 | Pkekyo| | ah, you're a yank? :p |
| 23:40.30 | Pkekyo| | 2am here |
| 23:40.45 | Pkekyo| | about time to get outta bed tbh |
| 23:40.56 | Dashkal | Hell no |
| 23:40.57 | Dashkal | Canadian |
| 23:41.03 | Dashkal | 4:40pm here |
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| 23:41.15 | Pkekyo| | that's a nice time o' day |
| 23:41.17 | Pkekyo| | 2am sucks |
| 23:41.22 | Dashkal | I miss 2am |
| 23:41.30 | Dashkal | Haven't seen much of it since I got a real job |
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| 23:41.43 | Dashkal | ignores the irony of that statement made during work hours on IRC |
| 23:41.49 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 23:41.56 | Pkekyo| | I'm still only a petty student, so meh :> |
| 23:42.09 | Dashkal | I do not miss exams |
| 23:42.20 | Pkekyo| | nor do I |
| 23:42.30 | Pkekyo| | two days ago I flunked my neo-norwegian mid-term |
| 23:42.40 | Dashkal | The projects I could handle again. Exams suck |
| 23:42.43 | Pkekyo| | wrote the most incoherent clutter of words I've ever seen to date :p |
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| 23:43.00 | Pkekyo| | it was just a bloody mess, and I didn't even fucking realize until the time was up |
| 23:43.12 | Dashkal | ouch |
| 23:43.29 | iKON | are there any mods that allow you to see herbs and mine on the minimap, at the same time? |
| 23:43.30 | Dashkal | Technical student, so essays were rare. Had, I think, one. |
| 23:43.30 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 23:43.51 | Dashkal | iKON: negative. Blizzard will not send both to you at the same time unless though a bug |
| 23:43.58 | Pkekyo| | <--- studying media and communications, but still have to have the 'normal' subjects so I can get into higher education |
| 23:44.13 | Pkekyo| | and it fucking sucks |
| 23:44.14 | Pkekyo| | blar |
| 23:44.20 | Dashkal | agreed |
| 23:44.25 | Dashkal | That's why I went into technical school |
| 23:44.35 | Dashkal | "I need chemistry to be a programmer WHY?" |
| 23:44.48 | Pkekyo| | I've been on-edge with my recent-history teacher the entire year...she's about to flunk me because of it: p |
| 23:45.05 | Dashkal | ouch |
| 23:45.39 | Pkekyo| | well fuck'er |
| 23:45.40 | Dashkal | The only "out of scope" classes I got turned out to be useful. business law and organizational behavior (psych for normal people) |
| 23:45.48 | Pkekyo| | goddamn conservative christian tractorlesbian whore |
| 23:46.00 | Dashkal | I see the dislike is very mutual :p |
| 23:46.59 | Pkekyo| | yeah, she started out the year by bitching me off 'cause I was drawing Tux in class... |
| 23:46.59 | Pkekyo| | the fact that I could repeat her entire lecture of the day word by word didn't have any influence at all...drawing not allowed...cunt :p |
| 23:47.13 | Dashkal | Oh I love those |
| 23:47.18 | Pkekyo| | indeed |
| 23:47.18 | Dashkal | I stopped attenting his lectures |
| 23:47.44 | Pkekyo| | I wish I could, but I'd get booted outta school...this country's educational laws are rifuckingdiculous |
| 23:47.49 | Dashkal | Funny thing is he made me absolutely hate java... now I do it for a living |
| 23:47.59 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 23:48.17 | Dashkal | my school didn't care. Once they had my money it was my call if I attended the lectures. Long as I attended the labs it was cool |
| 23:48.32 | Pkekyo| | noone in the entire school can stand this cunt though....powermongering horsehumping bitch |
| 23:49.16 | Pkekyo| | I wanna call her a cockjuggling thundercunt, but cockjuggling doesn't go very well with the lesbian stuff, methinks |
| 23:49.23 | Dashkal | Yeah, the politics that keep those types teaching... reasons why I don't intend to go back for bachelors/masters/etc. I'd rather just keep up to date myself and stick with industry experience |
| 23:49.57 | Pkekyo| | ponders over a new set of insults for'er |
| 23:49.59 | Dashkal | if straight men can brownnose, lesbians can suck a lil for a promotion :p |
| 23:50.59 | Pkekyo| | I try to come up with a new insult for each day we've got recent history lectures |
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| 23:51.00 | Dashkal | heh |
| 23:51.00 | Dashkal | You know, I'm not sure, but I get the glimmer of a hint that you may perhaps be a little less than fond of that instructor. |
| 23:51.02 | Pkekyo| | I find it keeps her on her toes...and livens up the class a little :> |
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| 23:51.47 | Pkekyo| | I have little to say to conservative christians...when they're absolute cunts on top of that, I tend to get somewhat unfriendly at times, yes :> |
| 23:52.16 | Pkekyo| | she's just about as useless as an abortion clinic with a nine-month waiting list... |
| 23:52.19 | Dashkal | There is a reason I really love living in the Vancouver area... |
| 23:52.35 | Dashkal | very few of those around, relatively speaking. |
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| 23:53.08 | Pkekyo| | not even educated as a teacher, actually...just got her history master and decided it was time to teach 18-19 year-olds history |
| 23:53.16 | Pkekyo| | like I said, she's useless at best |
| 23:53.18 | Dashkal | nah |
| 23:53.33 | Dashkal | She decided that grant money was easy money and students were a nusiance to get at it |
| 23:53.57 | Pkekyo| | sure, she knows her history stuff, but she knows jack shit about teaching people stuff, and it -really- shows |
| 23:54.06 | Pkekyo| | I wanna toiletpaper her last day of school :p |
| 23:54.13 | Pkekyo| | not her house, not her car, but -her- |
| 23:54.17 | Dashkal | lol |
| 23:54.31 | Dashkal | Getting yourself charged with something may reflect poorly on your chances of continued education :p |
| 23:54.34 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 23:54.39 | Pkekyo| | nah, not really |
| 23:54.54 | Pkekyo| | schools have nothing to do with any legal records I may have |
| 23:55.30 | Dashkal | but they can kick you out and refuse to grant the credentials :p |
| 23:55.40 | Pkekyo| | nope |
| 23:55.43 | Dashkal | (I assume, I have no idea how the laws work down there) |
| 23:55.44 | Dashkal | nice |
| 23:55.46 | Pkekyo| | not if I do it the last day :) |
| 23:56.02 | Dashkal | I couldn't get away with that |
| 23:56.18 | Pkekyo| | if I have to, I'll wait untill fall and then toiletpaper her:p |
| 23:56.28 | Dashkal | now that's another matter *cackle* |
| 23:56.30 | Pkekyo| | for some weird reason, we seem to always discuss geopolitics during recess at my school :/ |
| 23:56.57 | CIA-38 | 03gagorian * r70388 10DrDamage/ (Aura.lua Caster.lua Data/Warlock.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 23:56.57 | CIA-38 | DrDamage: |
| 23:56.57 | CIA-38 | - You can now manually add consumables to calculations (without being buffed with them). Mostly they wont stack if you have them on for real, exception to this are weapon oils. |
| 23:57.05 | Pkekyo| | and during classes we generally just sit idling at youtube or bash.org :> |
| 23:57.09 | Dashkal | alrighty, fun topic, but I have one more task I need done at work before I go. Last day before a week vacation |
| 23:57.18 | Pkekyo| | GEIF VACATION |
| 23:57.20 | Dashkal | I can't claim "I'll do it monday" |
| 23:57.32 | Dashkal | Grad and get a good job :p |
| 23:57.41 | Pkekyo| | say "I'll do it to your mum"...should hold'em for about thirty minutes or so |
| 23:58.01 | Dashkal | Perhaps if I didn't want to come back in a week, but I like this job :p |
| 23:58.17 | Pkekyo| | you can get fired for saying 'your mum'? |
| 23:58.20 | Dashkal | They treat me like gold cause I work my ass off and keep then in business |
| 23:58.24 | Pkekyo| | I'm definitely not gonna work in canada |
| 23:58.47 | Dashkal | want to release product soonest! |
| 23:58.51 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 23:58.53 | Dashkal | need to finish coding first... |
| 23:59.05 | Pkekyo| | for some reason, I can't go a day without pulling a 'your mum'-joke :/ |
| 23:59.10 | Dashkal | *snickers* |
| 23:59.48 | Dashkal | I doubt I'd be canned for that, but the humor wouldn't fly in this office. I have other places for that... like here |
