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| 00:00.49 | whatsinthename | i only find whodrop useful because it adds item drop locations in item tooltips, but the database for it is like never updated |
| 00:01.11 | kilrogg | doesn't Mendeleev do the same thing ? |
| 00:01.43 | Nandini | i am opposed to everything that uses PT3 |
| 00:01.49 | ckknight | Nandini: oh? |
| 00:01.51 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68841 10/trunk/ (21 files in 21 dirs): .trunk: StatBlocks: API Update |
| 00:02.36 | whatsinthename | exactly the thing i was looking for, ty kilrogg |
| 00:03.26 | Nandini | not really, i just hate its quirks and inaccuracies. the fact that aspects of it are human edited make it a recipe for a mess :) |
| 00:04.04 | kergoth | mendeleev has good drop into.. i tried Whats, but it doesnt show drop rates |
| 00:04.05 | kergoth | which sucks |
| 00:04.14 | kergoth | s/to/fo/ |
| 00:04.19 | Kemayo | The scrapability of wowhead is a useful thing. |
| 00:04.22 | durcyn | Whats was also written in crayon |
| 00:04.24 | kilrogg | Nandini: but is there an alternative to PT3 ? |
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| 00:05.07 | Nandini | kilrogg: i'm not interested in an alternative, because i'm not interested in most of the functionality that can be achieved with pt3 |
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| 00:05.20 | kergoth | does pt3 have 2.4 drop info? |
| 00:05.23 | kilrogg | ah, I get the point. |
| 00:07.08 | ckknight | Nandini: hrm, I could recommend to my boss that people want an item info addon, as long as I stick a wowdb logo on it somewhere, it'd all be good |
| 00:07.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:07.26 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 00:07.48 | kilrogg | there are worse things than a wowdb logo ;) |
| 00:08.28 | Dashkal | blinks |
| 00:08.33 | Dashkal | when did wowdb sprout the curse logo? |
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| 00:09.05 | Jaxon | Always |
| 00:09.06 | Nandini | no idea, but it's smart of them to incorporate the parent brand |
| 00:09.13 | Dimensionm | Is it possible to make a script that changes background Color of a Pitbull Raidframe? |
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| 00:09.40 | ckknight | Dashkal: wowdb's always been under the curse umbrella |
| 00:09.52 | Dashkal | hmm, I just don't remember the O being a curse logo |
| 00:10.14 | Nandini | ckknight: their categorization is interesting, i especially like "Items > Consumables > Consumables" |
| 00:10.19 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:10.21 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:10.52 | ckknight | in any event, there's an idea to have a quest info addon using wowdb data |
| 00:12.02 | ckknight | no reason to not have other stuff as well :-P |
| 00:12.12 | kilrogg | hey ... do i sense an alternative to MobMap emerging there ? |
| 00:12.19 | Arrowmaster | so anything you make that ends up with a curse or wowdb logo on it means well actually see updates to it right? |
| 00:13.09 | ckknight | kilrogg: mobmap? |
| 00:13.26 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, cause I get to do it during the day and get paid for it |
| 00:13.44 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: been working on CurseProfiler 2.0, rewrite from cgProfiler, a lot more lightweight for the user and all |
| 00:13.47 | kilrogg | http://www.mobmap.de/ - uses own database ... http://www.speedydragon.de/ |
| 00:14.05 | kilrogg | (seems to quite popular to write item databases for WoW *sigh* |
| 00:14.08 | durcyn | sounds more like lightheaded |
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| 00:14.28 | ckknight | durcyn: *shrug* along those lines, but the idea is to have more/better info |
| 00:14.31 | ckknight | and all that good stuff |
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| 00:14.53 | CIA-39 | ButtonFacade: |
| 00:14.53 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.15 | Dimensionm | sry, but is it possible to make a script that changes background Color of a Pitbull Raidframe? |
| 00:15.42 | luxus | JJSheets: is buttonfacade allready usable? |
| 00:16.13 | ckknight | Dimensionm: I think you can set that in the options. |
| 00:16.31 | JJSheets | luxus, to my knowledge the only Actionbar addon that uses it is InfiniBar-2.0 (since that's mine too). At this time it only has the Zoomed and DreamLayout skins. |
| 00:16.36 | CIA-39 | 03rabbit * r68845 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: playernames: Remember to get the class for offline guild members as well. |
| 00:16.40 | JJSheets | but yes, it is functional. |
| 00:16.48 | Dimensionm | can't find anything, i just find a way to set a script on the Text bars |
| 00:17.00 | vithos | what the fuck.. i'm getting errors for addons i don't even have installed |
| 00:17.02 | Nandini | ckknight: if someone at curse authors a scraped itemdb from wowdb, they should just bundle it with the wowdb client |
| 00:17.24 | Nandini | that would be one way to potentially increase the size and accuracy of their db |
| 00:17.31 | Nandini | as well as draw users to the site |
| 00:17.56 | ckknight | Nandini: well, CurseProfiler is what does the ingame scraping, and the idea's to have addons that use wowdb dumps to provide data to users ingame |
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| 00:18.57 | Ellipsis | Dimensionm: it's in global settings -> colors -> frame |
| 00:18.58 | Nandini | yeah i understand the split way it works, i just think bundling them together would increase the likelihood of people using cg |
| 00:20.04 | Dimensionm | Ellipsis: It's only colors, but i want them on event / if hasDebuff |
| 00:20.19 | ckknight | Nandini: well, CurseProfiler will allow you to have your profile up on curse and all |
| 00:20.28 | ckknight | and a lot of cool stuff is being added to that |
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| 00:20.39 | ckknight | an achievement system, for example |
| 00:20.42 | Dimensionm | I like the Debuff highlighting but would prefer the Bar to be Red in Background |
| 00:20.49 | ckknight | but yes, I think possibly a small compilation of curse addons would be useful |
| 00:21.03 | Gelo | Anyone know a good php/mysql raid manager? |
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| 00:22.35 | ben___ | Now that you can say stuff like {circle} in chat, is there a way to hook into that mechanism and add new symbols? |
| 00:22.42 | durcyn | no. |
| 00:22.46 | Nandini | you want to keep the user "cursed" at all points during their wow experience, from start to end :) |
| 00:22.53 | ben | Why not >:[ |
| 00:23.10 | stew_a | ben - its doable, but you cant send it through chat |
| 00:23.25 | kilrogg | Gelo: only thing I know is EQDKP Plus (http://www.eqdkp-plus.com/) |
| 00:23.26 | ben | stew_a: I just want to send {foo} and have everybody with my addon see foo.tga |
| 00:23.27 | ckknight | Nandini: hehe |
| 00:23.52 | Nandini | a strong marketing goal would be for players to associate their wow experience more with curse than with blizzard |
| 00:24.14 | ben | stew_a: Is that doable? |
| 00:24.15 | Nandini | because curse is what really makes it good and enjoyable, blizzard just makes it messy |
| 00:24.16 | Dashkal | ben: That is specifically not allowed. |
| 00:24.27 | Dashkal | They don't want people sending, for example, the GM symbol |
| 00:24.31 | Ellipsis | Dimensionm: if you want frames to highlight on debuffs, there's options for that in the aura settings |
| 00:24.31 | ben | So what is not not allowed? |
| 00:24.33 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68846 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua: |
| 00:24.33 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:24.33 | CIA-39 | - All JC converted to spell IDs. Only LW left to do... |
| 00:24.33 | CIA-39 | - Don't have a JC to test on, probably messed up an ID or two. |
| 00:24.34 | stew_a | ben take a look at http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6238 |
| 00:24.37 | ben | Thanks |
| 00:24.44 | ckknight | well, the idea is more to attract to wowdb and curse and world of raids and all that good stuff rather than to curse's competitors, it's not really to compete with blizz |
| 00:24.49 | stew_a | and theres nothing wrong with what ben is saying |
| 00:24.53 | Dashkal | you may not send an arbratrary texture to another player over text without the use of specialized addons on _both_ sides. |
| 00:25.03 | ckknight | Nandini: you're good at art stuff, right? :-P |
| 00:25.06 | Dimensionm | Ellipsis I know, but I'd like to change it |
| 00:25.17 | Nandini | if you can beat blizz, you've already beat wowhead/thottbot/allakhazam |
| 00:25.23 | ckknight | true |
| 00:25.29 | ben | Dashkal: I do not want to do that. I want to replace {foo} with foo.tga on the screen of the player with the addon installed. |
| 00:25.39 | Dashkal | ahh, that can be done, yes. |
| 00:25.42 | Nandini | i'm good with some graphics stuff, why do you ask? |
| 00:25.57 | ben | The use case is smileys for me, yeah :| |
| 00:26.02 | stew_a | yeah it can be done, i did it :-) |
| 00:26.04 | Dashkal | as long as the recipient has the addon doing the replacement, it can be done. |
| 00:26.08 | Arrowmaster | look at chatframe.lua in the framexml, just need to add to a table |
| 00:26.18 | ckknight | Nandini: because Blizz's cosmic map sucks and I want a better one |
| 00:26.32 | ben | What's the deal with the giant xml file |
| 00:26.41 | vithos | ok, i think i'm going insane |
| 00:26.41 | Ellipsis | Dimensionm: change it how exactly? what are you trying to accomplish in the end? |
| 00:26.46 | stew_a | my giant xml? |
| 00:26.48 | Ellipsis | you can already change the colors per debuff type if you like |
| 00:26.50 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: lies, you just want to see the reaction from the carbonite guys |
| 00:26.53 | ben | yeah |
| 00:26.59 | ben | Nevermind |
| 00:27.01 | vithos | i'm getting errors from pitbull, but i don't have pitbull installed, it's not in the addonlist or in the addons folder |
| 00:27.18 | vithos | all of my fubar plugins are gone, except for clockfu |
| 00:27.19 | Dimensionm | Ellipsis: like making the background of the cursed person Black or something like that |
| 00:27.19 | Nandini | ok, i think i know the scale of all 3 continents or can find it in an old version of astrolabe, brb with new cosmic map |
| 00:27.34 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r68847 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Main.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - If ButtonFacade is loaded, IB2 will no longer control hiding Blizzard button art, since BF has a module for this. |
| 00:27.35 | Ellipsis | Dimensionm: you can change the curse color to black and change the highlight style to the look you want |
| 00:27.38 | Arrowmaster | scale changed |
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| 00:28.02 | Nandini | oh scale did change grrr, i'll look in nevcairiel's version of astrolabe |
| 00:28.19 | ckknight | Nandini: hang on: |
| 00:28.19 | Arrowmaster | you can get the data from the dbc files |
| 00:28.36 | ckknight | Nandini: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/298ec210ebcf9d627e67e45c1da1b789f0b7271c.tar.gz |
| 00:28.51 | ckknight | if you get that, you can see it in action, the land masses are to scale |
| 00:29.09 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68848 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua: |
| 00:29.09 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:29.09 | CIA-39 | - JC Update |
| 00:29.42 | Nandini | do you want them scaled big enough to do zone highlighting in the cosmic map too? or just continent highlighting? |
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| 00:30.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight / Ellipsis there's a bug in the Rock window code(i think it's the rock window code)... try resizing e.g. the DogTag help window |
| 00:30.35 | ckknight | the DogTag help window doesn't use Rock |
| 00:30.36 | sag_ich_nicht | and pull the mouse to the right outside of the screen |
| 00:30.37 | Nandini | nvm, guess you need to highlight continents, otherwise there'd be no way to get to the continent map |
| 00:30.39 | ckknight | DogTag is not related to Rock |
| 00:30.47 | sag_ich_nicht | then it's in the dogtag help window :P |
| 00:31.21 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway seems the resizing code goes negative-->window expands to the left outside of the screen of you drag the resizing corner to the right outside of the screen |
| 00:31.24 | ckknight | Nandini: Cart3 zooms with the mousewheel, so highlighting is arbitrary |
| 00:31.36 | ckknight | Nandini: can be as big or as small as you want |
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| 00:31.47 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
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| 00:32.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis be so kind and make this this 2.0 dogtag into a 3.0 dogtag? :( |
| 00:32.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [Status] | [IsPlayerOrPet ? IsFriend ? SureHP ? FractionalHP:Short] [ [IsEnemy | ~IsPlayerOrPet | [IsPlayerOrPet ? ~SureHP]] ? PercentHP:Percent] |
| 00:32.36 | sag_ich_nicht | the problem is that SureHP would return negative the player HP wasn't known by MobHealth but that tag is no longer available |
| 00:32.37 | azraelo | Time is 8:34pm, computer has been up for 5w 5d 11h 51m 28s |
| 00:32.41 | azraelo | oops |
| 00:32.42 | azraelo | lol |
| 00:32.43 | hypetech | o.0 |
| 00:32.44 | sag_ich_nicht | so i need some "in group" check or something to accomplish that |
| 00:32.44 | JJSheets | lol |
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| 00:33.09 | sag_ich_nicht | *negative if the player HP wasn't known |
| 00:33.39 | Nandini | ckknight: i am missing embeds.xml from that git download, are there any libraries (or new versions of libs) i'm not likely to have externals of already? |
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| 00:33.48 | ckknight | Nandini: it doesn't use any libs. |
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| 00:33.54 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:33.59 | ckknight | I couldn't decide between Ace3 and Rock |
| 00:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 00:34.06 | ckknight | so I just didn't choose either |
| 00:34.38 | Arrowmaster | see rock is so bad even ckk doesnt use it anymore! |
| 00:34.40 | daffy | Tornhoof: You there? |
| 00:34.45 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: ...no |
| 00:34.57 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:35.07 | ckknight | ~seen nargiddley |
| 00:35.09 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16h 29m 4s ago, saying: '219'. |
| 00:35.09 | kilrogg | there we are again ;) |
| 00:35.17 | ckknight | bah |
| 00:35.52 | luxus | i think i going crazy.. i am sure that i see a addon that called wisp yesterday |
| 00:35.54 | Nandini | default keybinding for cart3 map? |
| 00:36.03 | ckknight | Nandini: it doesn't close yet, sorry. |
| 00:36.07 | luxus | but i am not able to find it again :/ |
| 00:36.11 | JJSheets | luxus, Whisp maybe? |
| 00:36.19 | luxus | ahh *LOL* |
| 00:36.22 | ckknight | Nandini: it's in a very alpha state. |
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| 00:37.04 | Esine | how do you make item links in AceGUI3? |
| 00:37.32 | kergoth | Esine: ? |
| 00:37.35 | Esine | making a Label with the ItemLink shows the item nicely in color but you can't right click it |
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| 00:37.48 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:37.51 | Esine | links like you see in chat for example so you can right click the item name and see the info |
| 00:38.08 | Esine | or maybe a button |
| 00:38.58 | ckknight | Esine: it's actually just a string. check wowwiki for details, look for itemLink |
| 00:39.19 | Esine | or.. a better question would be how do I mix AceGUI calls and XML? I'd like to make the window and all in AceGUI but I think I need blizzard templates for some of the stuff |
| 00:39.33 | Esine | ckknight, right but I have the itemlink and I'm putting it on label and you can't right click it |
| 00:39.36 | luxus | whisp is funny |
| 00:39.39 | Arrowmaster | you dont need xml for anythign |
| 00:39.39 | kergoth | you can ask acegui for the frame, no? |
| 00:39.46 | Esine | ah |
| 00:41.27 | NeoTron | Esine: heh I did some nasty hacking to get mouseover/linking of "item links" in MagicDKP |
| 00:42.00 | NeoTron | mind you this was even worse since it was in an AceConfig ui rather than straight acegui |
| 00:42.27 | Esine | :/ |
| 00:42.32 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/mdkp/mdkp2.jpg |
| 00:42.51 | NeoTron | it's nasty because I need to make a custom widged that looks like something it's not... |
| 00:42.59 | Dashkal | hmm, that brings up a related question I'm gonna be stuck with sooner or later: How do I make an icon of a piece of gear and show the tooltip when you hover over it? (Going to make a read-only view of someone's equipment after inspecting) |
| 00:43.15 | Chaud | like examiner does? |
| 00:43.42 | Dashkal | NeoTron That looks exactly like what I'm going to have to do... |
| 00:43.49 | NeoTron | UGLY HACK: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/MagicDKP/dev/MagicDKP/MDKPItemWidget.lua |
| 00:44.04 | Dashkal | hmm, should I look and be tainted or try to find another way :p |
| 00:44.40 | NeoTron | although |
| 00:45.03 | NeoTron | it's really only ugly because it's a label that pretends to be an input widget to make AceConfig happy |
| 00:45.13 | NeoTron | what you need to look at is the mouseover/onclick stuff |
| 00:45.24 | NeoTron | it's really rather easy |
| 00:45.24 | Dashkal | kk, will do. |
| 00:45.33 | NeoTron | but I dunno how to make a link in a text be clickable |
| 00:45.40 | NeoTron | like in chat |
| 00:45.45 | luxus | does anyone test carbonite quest ? |
| 00:45.47 | Fix[EJ] | Does there happen to be an addon that allows you to mouseover an actionbutton and set its binding? |
| 00:45.48 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Paranois question: licence compatable with BSD before I *ahem* borrow? |
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| 00:45.57 | Fix[EJ] | I know Bongos has it, but I'm wondering if theres a standalone version of that |
| 00:46.05 | NeoTron | what license is Ace3? |
| 00:46.07 | ckknight | luxus: I did, I'm stealing its features for Cart3 |
| 00:46.13 | Dashkal | likes his IP clean |
| 00:46.22 | ckknight | NeoTron: it's a special BSD license that's technically not open source |
| 00:46.26 | Yssaril | NeoTron, you want to know how to insert a link into chat from a button? |
| 00:46.35 | Dashkal | ckknight: What violates open source about it? |
| 00:46.40 | luxus | ckknight: it looks like the bigbrother from tourguide? |
| 00:46.40 | ckknight | NeoTron: it has a clause that prevents redistribution as a whole |
| 00:46.51 | ckknight | luxus: not sure, haven't checked that out |
| 00:47.08 | Dashkal | meep, I think I need to relicense GridStatusParty... |
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| 00:47.25 | NeoTron | Yssaril: nah I do that. I am curious how I cna make a widget with a bunch of text and a couple of links and make the links clickable |
| 00:47.29 | NeoTron | but only the links |
| 00:47.44 | NeoTron | Dashkal: so the license is BSD since I based that widget on the Ace3 gui label widget.. |
| 00:47.49 | NeoTron | I need to clarify that |
| 00:48.13 | NeoTron | it's that "special" BSD |
| 00:48.15 | Dashkal | heh, oops |
| 00:48.15 | Yssaril | NeoTron, i think all you need to do is make the font string register for clicks (idk though) |
| 00:48.17 | NeoTron | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/LICENSE.txt |
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| 00:48.25 | Dashkal | I didn't read the leagalese closely enough. That will be fixed |
| 00:48.34 | Nandini | ckknight: is the distance between kalimdor and eastern kingdoms significant or arbitrary? |
| 00:48.41 | Dashkal | pastamancer: I need to relicense GSP... Bad clause in the license txt |
| 00:48.47 | ckknight | Nandini: to be honest, I would prefer if they were significant |
| 00:48.55 | WobWork | ~seen Tornhoof |
| 00:48.57 | purl | tornhoof is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 43 messages. Is idling for 6h 18m 15s, last said: 'around 70% i think'. |
| 00:48.57 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I'm sloppy in that I am not retaining the proper license in that file |
| 00:48.57 | ckknight | Nandini: especially with Northrend coming in later |
| 00:49.11 | Nandini | yes presumably it will be between them on the azeroth-view map |
| 00:49.30 | NeoTron | so wait the license mentions the ace3 development team and also that you can't use the name of the ace3 development team - how does that work? :P |
| 00:49.31 | Dashkal | The thing is I prefer BSD simply because it lets me keep copyright without making me care much how it's used. |
| 00:49.32 | ckknight | Nandini: it'll be between and north, there's an image of it on wowwiki somewhere |
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| 00:49.50 | ckknight | NeoTron: for advertising purposes, you can't use the author's name to promote your product |
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| 00:50.10 | NeoTron | ok but I can take that license and paste it in the files I've used and modified from ace3gui w/o a problem |
| 00:50.11 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 00:50.24 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 00:50.33 | Dashkal | Hmm, the anti stand-alone clause makes me nervous... |
| 00:50.49 | NeoTron | it jsut means you can't take Ace3 as-is and distribute it I presume |
| 00:50.52 | NeoTron | vs using it embedded? |
| 00:50.56 | Nandini | wow it looks like they actually corrected the shapes of the other continents slightly in their new world map artwork |
| 00:50.58 | grennon | alright, so tank in my guild ran something by me that actually sounded possibly useful, he asked if i could make people on the MT target frames for oRA have some sort of indicator on their MT window if they have salvation on |
| 00:51.10 | grennon | does such a think exist already and ive just overlooked it? |
| 00:51.22 | NeoTron | that'd be a nifty little feature >:-) |
| 00:52.03 | grennon | well, i told him just to macro wrap a tank ability with the command to remove the buff and not worry about it |
| 00:52.07 | Arrowmaster | hehe i hadnt actually looked at that license before |
| 00:52.17 | grennon | but his point was that sometimes you want salv on certain tanks |
| 00:52.17 | Dashkal | Well yeah. I don't like software I can't just pass on. |
| 00:52.57 | Nandini | ckknight: are you committed to using only artwork available in the client? it could be difficult to find stuff to match up |
| 00:53.03 | Arrowmaster | funny thing is that it means the morons that are too stupid to embed cant just include it in their package like that "Cartographer Complete" and say they only do it because it causes less errors for them |
| 00:53.05 | Dashkal | That's actually pretty restrictive... and it means I cannot write any GPL code that uses Ace3 |
| 00:53.12 | Arrowmaster | since then you can hit them with license violation |
| 00:53.43 | ckknight | Nandini: no I'm not |
| 00:53.44 | Dashkal | I'd be forced to write it disembedded and tell the users where to get the standalone for themself |
| 00:54.06 | Nandini | so i could just creat a single background image that you plop everything else on top of |
| 00:54.22 | Arrowmaster | Dashkal: ianal but i dont think thats right |
| 00:54.46 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: The clause restricting distribution of Ace3 is a violation of the GPL... I can't distribute both together |
| 00:54.47 | ckknight | Nandini: yep. |
| 00:54.50 | ckknight | Nandini: that was my idea |
| 00:55.01 | Dashkal | Since I can't apply the GPL to Ace3 |
| 00:55.03 | dafi | ckknight: Btw, is it possible RockConfig module will show ace3 config in the future? |
| 00:55.21 | Dashkal | Mind you... it's that kind of shit that's the reason I avoid the GLP |
| 00:55.24 | Dashkal | GPL* |
| 00:55.31 | ckknight | dafi: theoretically, but seeing as ace3's config table is completely different, I'd have to have two modes. |
| 00:55.34 | ckknight | dafi: not against it, though |
| 00:55.34 | Xelopheris | wtfwtfwtf, kalecgos popped three portals in 40 seconds O_o |
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| 00:57.18 | Criterion | what would be a good way to draw one single pixel in the WoW UI? |
| 00:57.46 | WobWork | Permanent marker pen on the monitor? |
| 00:58.02 | Diao | lol |
| 00:58.37 | ckknight | Criterion: make a texture with a width of 1 and height of 1 |
| 00:58.40 | dafi | Is the new blizzard interface panel actualy modable? It's a nicer then it was but compared to what was available (RockConfig) it's a step back :\ |
| 00:58.41 | Criterion | tried that, but I was never able to include it in the zip package to upload it on the web |
| 00:58.59 | kergoth | dafi: what? |
| 00:59.09 | aestil | ckknight: did you make some announcment? |
| 00:59.11 | Criterion | ckknight alright, thanks |
| 00:59.15 | ckknight | aestil: yea |
| 00:59.15 | kergoth | dafi: addons can put any frame they want into the interface options, it doesnt provide widgets |
| 00:59.36 | aestil | link? |
| 00:59.37 | ckknight | aestil: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3 |
| 00:59.57 | dafi | well the window's not resisable and when it gets full of addons in there it's gona be as messy as RockConfig originaly was :\ |
| 01:00.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Exception:0xC0000094 (INT_DIVIDE_BY_ZERO) at 001B:71A014DF |
| 01:00.17 | sag_ich_nicht | nice. |
| 01:00.20 | sag_ich_nicht | GOOD JOB THERE WoW |
| 01:00.21 | aestil | is there a wiki for how this is different than current carto? |
| 01:00.29 | ckknight | aestil: read the description? :-P |
| 01:00.38 | Dashkal | meh *shakes fist light-heartedly at ckk* The GPL viral bit makes me have to be very very careful when I use your mods to learn to write Rock code... |
| 01:00.45 | ckknight | aestil: it's very alpha |
| 01:00.54 | ckknight | Dashkal: well, Rock's in LGPL, not GPL |
| 01:00.56 | Primer | how does one make the skull/square/circle appear in trade chat? |
| 01:01.00 | Primer | by typing |
| 01:01.01 | aestil | ckknight: is this why there is no parrot 2.0? ;p |
| 01:01.03 | Dashkal | Rock is, but all the example code is GPL proper |
| 01:01.09 | dafi | So far Omen, Proximo, Betterquest. All addons using Ace3 have option on the default interface panel and all of them are to big for it so controls clip of |
| 01:01.13 | ckknight | Dashkal: example code? |
| 01:01.18 | Jaxon | Primer using {} |
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| 01:01.24 | Primer | Jaxon: I did that |
| 01:01.26 | Dashkal | Using your minimap, for example, to learn to use rockdb and such |
| 01:01.27 | aestil | i watched primer last night guys! |
| 01:01.28 | ckknight | aestil: no, there's no parrot 2.0 cause I'm lazy. |
| 01:01.30 | aestil | wicked good movie. |
| 01:01.40 | Jaxon | Primer: {skull} {circle} {cross} etc |
| 01:01.40 | Primer | /2 I {SKULL} trade chat |
| 01:01.44 | Primer | oh, case |
| 01:01.51 | aestil | ckknight: Ellipsis will sex you up if you write up the parrot 2.0 that includes a power aura's type module! |
| 01:01.58 | ckknight | Dashkal: oh, I could give you a license to do whatever the hell you wanted with it, if need be, I'm rather lax about it al |
| 01:02.00 | ckknight | all* |
| 01:02.05 | Dashkal | heh, fair enough |
| 01:02.11 | ckknight | aestil: we broke up |
| 01:02.15 | Primer | Jaxon: case made no diff |
| 01:02.19 | aestil | ckknight: fail. |
| 01:02.19 | Primer | still shows up verbatim |
| 01:02.23 | aestil | ckknight: no one will sex you up now. |
| 01:02.24 | Jaxon | Primer: because it hates you |
| 01:02.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:02] <@ckknight> aestil: we broke up <--lol wut |
| 01:02.27 | Arrowmaster | you do know that even if something is under a restrictive license the copyright owner is allowed to liscense it directly to anybody under a different license without changing the general license |
| 01:02.31 | Dashkal | good to know you won't murder me if I accidently take some code as a template |
| 01:02.34 | Primer | perhaps it doesn't work in trade chat |
| 01:02.34 | Jaxon | Primer: try it in party chat, I've never used it in trade. |
| 01:02.39 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 01:02.40 | Ellipsis | I'd still sex him up |
| 01:02.41 | Ellipsis | tbh |
| 01:02.44 | sag_ich_nicht | SOMEONE FIX POWER AURAS |
| 01:02.48 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 01:02.48 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: yea, she left yesterday, it's all very cordial |
| 01:02.57 | aestil | sag_ich_nicht: no it should just be part of parrot |
| 01:03.04 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up |
| 01:03.05 | ckknight | Dashkal: hell, I don't care, to be honest, just don't rip off my work |
| 01:03.10 | Dashkal | no worries there |
| 01:03.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i want to keep my settings |
| 01:03.19 | Dashkal | I'm thinking incidential stuff like the locale/* files |
| 01:03.20 | aestil | all the triggers and event handling stuff, would be perfect in parrot. |
| 01:03.23 | sag_ich_nicht | IT WAS HARD ENOUGH TO GET THEM PERFECT ON MY ROGUE |
| 01:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 01:03.26 | Primer | Jaxon: it doesn't work in trace |
| 01:03.26 | aestil | and the easy config setups. |
| 01:03.27 | Primer | trade |
| 01:03.33 | Primer | only /w, /g, /p, etc |
| 01:03.34 | ckknight | it's extemely unlikely that I will sue anyone if they take code from my addons |
| 01:03.35 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly it took like 4 hours to pixel-align the damn auras |
| 01:03.37 | aestil | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, but parrot is damn easy to setup. |
| 01:03.37 | Dashkal | If I ever outright use your code, I honor your license. End of story |
| 01:03.43 | ckknight | I just don't want anyone taking my code and selling it |
| 01:03.45 | sag_ich_nicht | aestil: your mom |
| 01:03.54 | aestil | my mom is easy to setup? |
| 01:03.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 01:03.59 | aestil | she probably is. |
| 01:04.09 | Ellipsis | I hope so |
| 01:04.11 | Dashkal | You do know GPL allows that (not that anybody would buy it given that this is a freely available wow addon) |
| 01:04.12 | ckknight | Dashkal: meh, if you ever need to actually use my code, I could dual-license the part you used as MIT or whatever |
| 01:04.25 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: do you count 'selling' as redistrubition with the intent to profit from ad revenue? |
| 01:04.27 | Nandini | wts Perrod 9.0 floating combat text and emotes addon, only 3 easy payments of $39.95 |
| 01:04.29 | ckknight | Dashkal: yea, I do know that |
| 01:04.30 | aestil | the soap opera this is Ellipsis, you should totally write a blog Ellipsis |
| 01:04.37 | Ellipsis | lolwut? |
| 01:04.42 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, not really, as long as my donation button stays in |
| 01:04.50 | Dashkal | I prefer BSD personally, but that explicitly allows people to close the source. So I'd quite happily honor your terms and use GPL if I had a need to do so. I just avoid the GPL to avoid legal gray areas like Ace3 + GPL addon |
| 01:04.51 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: oh really? |
| 01:04.57 | ckknight | MIT > BSD |
| 01:05.00 | NeoTron | http://www.adrguild.com/ulimg/116_raid_newest_1.jpg <== shows the "target linking" feature of magic marker (not my UI, I did the linking though) |
| 01:05.01 | JJSheets | 3 easy payments! sign me up! |
| 01:05.11 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: why? |
| 01:05.11 | Nandini | act now and we will throw in a free ginzu knife! |
| 01:05.15 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: so i take it you never saw the "Cartographer Complete" up on wowui.incgamers? |
| 01:05.20 | aestil | Ellipsis: you are a high drama person, your life must be interesting. |
| 01:05.21 | ckknight | I did |
| 01:05.23 | Olison | Funkeh`: idea for statblocks_zonetext: option for align text to left, right or middle :o)))) |
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| 01:05.28 | Ellipsis | aestil: no drama, what are you talking about? |
| 01:05.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:03] <aestil> she probably is. <--meta-humor: i used your mom to setup that your mom joke |
| 01:05.34 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: and did you notice the paypal donate button? |
| 01:05.34 | ckknight | I don't especially care about that |
| 01:05.40 | ckknight | ..no |
| 01:05.44 | ckknight | did they fucking change it? |
| 01:05.48 | Dashkal | I don't expect the Ace3 crew to care, I just prefer to avoid messes like that altogether |
| 01:05.58 | Arrowmaster | its always had a paypal donate button on that site |
| 01:06.21 | aestil | cartographer is currently working, wtb new parrot. |
| 01:06.29 | Dashkal | Hell, I think only the RMS zealot crowd would actually care. And all the GPL code would be mine so bite me :p |
| 01:06.36 | Olison | aestil: MSBT :))) |
| 01:06.44 | luxus | wtb ace3 parrot *duck* |
| 01:06.58 | luxus | and NO i don't want sct :( |
| 01:07.02 | aestil | the libarary it uses is completely irrelevenat to the end user. |
| 01:07.06 | hypetech | [2008/04/09 20:41:06-768-x42]: scorchio\Core.lua:973: attempt to concatenate a nil value |
| 01:07.15 | Funkeh` | Olison, heh |
| 01:07.30 | hypetech | luxus: the parrot on WAU is working |
| 01:07.32 | Dashkal | aestil: I disagree. Ace3 and Rock use differing configurations for now. I _do_ care in the interests of uniformity |
| 01:07.46 | Primer | what mod has every item in the game that supports wildcard searching? |
| 01:07.48 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=4386 |
| 01:07.50 | luxus | aestil: i don't want the whole librock framework just for 1 addon :( |
| 01:07.56 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: click the paypal button thats always been there |
| 01:08.07 | Primer | I have atlasloot, but that's just instance/pvp loot |
| 01:08.08 | aestil | luxus: ok. then you should use msbt or sct. |
| 01:08.11 | aestil | you have options. |
| 01:08.22 | dylanm | The framework overhead is not a lot. |
| 01:08.23 | Ellipsis | touches aestil |
| 01:08.26 | Antiarc | dafi: Install BetterBlizzOptions |
| 01:08.35 | Antiarc | It makes the Blizzard interface options panel resizable and movable |
| 01:08.48 | Tuller | is that really better? :P |
| 01:08.53 | Dashkal | Since Rock can nom Ace2 configs, I don't care about Ace2 vs Rock as a user. But the fact that it cannot nom Ace3 configs bugs me :p |
| 01:08.54 | dafi | Antiarc: thanks |
| 01:08.58 | NeoTron | Antiarc: can I install BetterAceConfig3 to make the panes resizable? ;-) |
| 01:09.00 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: and i reported it a few times but the worldofwar/incgamers guys dont care about shit other than making money from ad revenue so they dont take stuff done unless they have to |
| 01:09.00 | Nandini | something else has made my blizz interface options panel movable and i'm not sure what. LOL |
| 01:09.13 | ckknight | dammit, I need to write a C&D |
| 01:09.22 | Dashkal | WTB impossible dream of single unified config interface for every single addon :p |
| 01:09.22 | Antiarc | NeoTron: I've got a patch on Jira to make them resizable :) |
| 01:09.23 | luxus | too bad that ace3 don't support ace2 configs like rock :D |
| 01:09.23 | Olison | A what? |
| 01:09.24 | hypetech | I thought it was movable on the PTR and I had no mods |
| 01:09.25 | aestil | although why you wouldn't also be using cartographer, and pitbull, or cowtip... its not as if there is only one viable mod using rock. i really doin't care what libarry it uses. |
| 01:09.27 | WobWork | ckknight: hehe make it as detailed and legal as possible |
| 01:09.28 | NeoTron | yeah I know |
| 01:09.30 | WobWork | Then sign it Summer Glau |
| 01:09.32 | aestil | touches Ellipsis |
| 01:09.35 | JJSheets | C&D = ? |
| 01:09.38 | ckknight | anyone have a C&D template? |
| 01:09.38 | dylanm | Just be like ATTN MORONS |
| 01:09.41 | WobWork | Cease and Desist |
| 01:09.43 | ckknight | JJSheets: cease and desist |
| 01:09.44 | JJSheets | ah |
| 01:09.50 | dafi | Antiarc: know anything to put ace2 addon options in there too? |
| 01:09.59 | Dashkal | but I'm stuck. There are ace3 mods I love and Rock mods I love. *sigh* |
| 01:10.02 | Antiarc | dafi: No, there is nothing right now. |
| 01:10.12 | Tuller | well, the standard nowish is to use the interface panel |
| 01:10.15 | ckknight | Dashkal: no reason you can't run both :-P |
| 01:10.15 | NeoTron | Dashkal: ace3 + ace2 + Rock => win? |
| 01:10.19 | kergoth | dafi: like antiarc says, use his betterblizzoptions addon, works great. i have a hack to sort the addons list alphabetically too, but i have hopes blizz will add sorting options at some point.. cause its gonna get messy, that list |
| 01:10.22 | Dashkal | Also, Rock totally chokes on ZOMGBuffs, so I get cursed to use the dropdown menu *cry* |
| 01:10.27 | pastamancer | Dashkal: grid isn't using ace3 |
| 01:10.32 | aestil | Dashkal: ? who cares? |
| 01:10.33 | dylanm | It's... I'm so sorry that you have to open up two windows. |
| 01:10.35 | Arrowmaster | this is the very reason ace3 has that license, so many people want to mirror crap just to make money from it |
| 01:10.37 | Nandini | it shouldn't be too hard to take waterfall and stuff it into the ioa panel |
| 01:10.42 | Dashkal | pastamancer: No, but I ganked the license from ace3 so I need to change is to be proper BSD |
| 01:10.44 | Nandini | or use waterfall as a model to do that |
| 01:10.51 | pastamancer | Dashkal: ah |
| 01:10.54 | Dashkal | didn't read closely enough |
| 01:11.04 | Dashkal | I'll fix it when I fix the party leader bug shortly after getting home |
| 01:11.06 | pastamancer | go fix! |
| 01:11.12 | Antiarc | Heh, what's the C&D for, ckk? |
| 01:11.15 | Dashkal | I'm at work atm (leaving v soon) |
| 01:11.15 | NeoTron | so get this |
| 01:11.32 | NeoTron | we were doing Kalecgos and a druid "had to reload his ui" to the effect that when came back he had no party frames |
| 01:11.36 | Olison | ~seen Funkeh` |
| 01:11.38 | purl | funkeh` is currently on #wowhead (21m 34s) #wowuidev (21m 34s) #wowace (21m 34s) #curseforge (21m 34s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 4m 23s, last said: 'Olison, heh'. |
| 01:11.39 | ckknight | Antiarc: "Cartographer Collection" on incgamers |
| 01:11.40 | Dashkal | party[i] = party .. 1 |
| 01:11.43 | Dashkal | made for an interesting bug :p |
| 01:11.43 | NeoTron | and thus couldn't decurse... on Kalecgos.. in combat |
| 01:11.54 | Olison | oh, missed that :< |
| 01:11.56 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 01:12.05 | WobWork | oh incgamers.. is there anything you can't do? =P |
| 01:12.06 | Olison | missed your reply, sorreh |
| 01:12.11 | Yssaril | ckknight, http://www.lawdepot.com/contracts/cease-and-desist-letter/?pid=googleppc-cease_us-cease_a1-s-ggkey_cease%20and%20desist%20template&s_kwcid=cease%20and%20desist%20template|820014143 |
| 01:12.27 | Dashkal | as for running both, I do. I just cry when I have to configure three different addons three different ways :p |
| 01:12.39 | kergoth | so yell at the addon author |
| 01:12.40 | kergoth | s |
| 01:12.43 | Arrowmaster | ckk never noticed the guy that posts "Cartographer Collection" has a link to his own paypal on it |
| 01:12.49 | ckknight | I know |
| 01:12.53 | ckknight | that's what I'm mad about |
| 01:12.59 | Funkeh` | kek |
| 01:13.00 | luxus | isn't a new version of grid in work? without ace2 |
| 01:13.00 | Arrowmaster | and everybody thinks hes the cartographer author on that site |
| 01:13.02 | Dashkal | well, I can't really. What Zeksie did is legit for ace2's dropdown config. Rock simply chokes on it. |
| 01:13.06 | Arrowmaster | even though he says otherwise |
| 01:13.11 | Dashkal | I'm just happy rock can nom ace2 as it is |
| 01:13.31 | Antiarc | ckknight: Geeez. |
| 01:13.44 | Dashkal | ckknight: If you're curious, rock seems to choke on ace2 options that are both dropdowns and toggles. ZOMGBuffs uses those |
| 01:14.16 | Dashkal | it cannot toggle them, only drill in |
| 01:14.24 | luxus | 18.9mb! |
| 01:14.29 | pastamancer | luxus: jerry is/was working on an ace3 version |
| 01:14.33 | Arrowmaster | i was pissed too when i noticed it a few months ago but since reported it didnt do anything and then there was all the stuff with incgamers mirroring all of wowace and the rest of the stuff it became apparent they didnt give a fuck because they were making money from the ads |
| 01:14.39 | NeoTron | that's a prety shitty thing to do |
| 01:14.58 | NeoTron | is tha the site that mirrored all ace addons ? |
| 01:15.04 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 01:15.07 | luxus | 18,9mb with 221 active addonfolders :D |
| 01:15.21 | Primer | I need to add a paypal link to my site...damn .nu TLD people want €250 to renew sh.nu because it's a 2 letter domain |
| 01:15.32 | NeoTron | Primer: lol |
| 01:15.34 | NivFreak | Is GridStatusIncomingHealth just missing an embed tag? |
| 01:15.35 | NivFreak | http://ace.pastey.net/85436 |
| 01:15.42 | Dashkal | I'm in a minority: I don't want to be paid for any addon work I do. I don't want any chance of a conflict of interest between my professional job as a programmer and this hobby. |
| 01:15.55 | pastamancer | NivFreak: why would you use that when Grid has incomind heals built-in? |
| 01:16.22 | luxus | i think the wowace svn rep. needs moderators :D |
| 01:16.24 | NivFreak | pastamancer: there was a reason at one point, I'm actually not sure now |
| 01:16.34 | NivFreak | maybe it was picking up heals from other mods? |
| 01:16.37 | luxus | that remove or even move old not working addons |
| 01:16.42 | NivFreak | agreed |
| 01:16.53 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: if they dont do anything you can still legally change the license on cartographer2 then wait for the guy to update his collection then nail them with another C&D for license violation |
| 01:17.09 | luxus | many stuff that confuse peoples |
| 01:17.26 | Dashkal | anyway, it's time for me to jet and go home. Back shortly so I can fix my mistake in GSP... |
| 01:17.42 | Arrowmaster | luxus: its an svn not a distrubition site |
| 01:18.01 | JJSheets | It could probably use a bit of pruning though. :p |
| 01:18.15 | Dashkal | maybe move anything not updates for 2.4 into /branches/old? |
| 01:18.18 | pastamancer | Dashkal: don't forget to add it to the wiki page for grid addons |
| 01:18.24 | Dashkal | pastamancer: kk, will do |
| 01:18.45 | dafi | just got BetterBlizzOptions and works fine, all it needs to be perfect is have all the addons options there (at least ace2 and rock) =p |
| 01:18.49 | luxus | yeah you are right Arrowmaster but there are enough peoples that think files.wowace.com is a addon site :D |
| 01:19.12 | dafi | I miss only having to go to one play to change settings |
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| 01:19.17 | dafi | *place |
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| 01:19.31 | NeoTron | still wouldn't be a bad idea to outright (re)move addons that don't work. however who'd be responsible for testin addons to make sure they DO work? :P |
| 01:19.36 | Aiiane | luxus - mostly because so many ace addons are only really up to date there |
| 01:19.37 | Gelo | Uhm... who'd that happen /shrug |
| 01:19.39 | Swimnurd | Is the author of decursive on, if so I love you, the timers that were added are a dream for Kalec |
| 01:19.48 | NivFreak | pastamancer: I guess I'm really not sure why I have that installed, everything continues to work the way I want without it :) |
| 01:20.39 | hypetech | How do I disable a bossmod totally in BigWigs...like Doomwalker while I'm trying to do BT -.- |
| 01:21.12 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 01:21.26 | NeoTron | you go kill doomwalker, $$$ and then move on with BT |
| 01:21.33 | Aiiane | toggle it's "active" property? |
| 01:21.39 | Funkeh` | untick it in the menu |
| 01:21.45 | grennon | that mod just needs a cooldown timer so that if it gets triggered a bunch in a short period, it autodisables for an hour |
| 01:21.47 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r68850 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Bar.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Dragging actions into fully hidden button groups works now, but with odd fadeout bug. |
| 01:21.49 | hypetech | when I do that, it just re-enables itself |
| 01:22.18 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: people on curse are bitching in the comments that instance maps dont work, you need to upload a new version again |
| 01:22.19 | grennon | a bigwigs anti-grief |
| 01:22.36 | Ellipsis | I agree with Arrowmaster |
| 01:22.42 | Ellipsis | closing jira duplicates is getting old |
| 01:23.01 | Arrowmaster | thats one thing i dont like about jira |
| 01:23.07 | Arrowmaster | all the tickets are numbered |
| 01:23.27 | Arrowmaster | and over half the cartographer and fubar tickets are from morons and arent even bugs |
| 01:23.43 | FtH|Daemona | uuuh anyone with a shadowpriest can tell me if VE HEALING is shadow or holy? |
| 01:24.06 | *** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@adsl-75-36-238-192.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:24.10 | Aiiane | why, FtH|Daemona? |
| 01:24.23 | FtH|Daemona | cause our priests are considering to spec silent resolve -.- |
| 01:24.27 | Aiiane | I wasn't aware healing had types |
| 01:24.31 | Aiiane | it's caused by a shadow spell |
| 01:24.33 | Aiiane | (VE) |
| 01:24.39 | pastamancer | FtH|Daemona: silent resolve doesn't help VE |
| 01:24.42 | Aiiane | and thus isn't affected by silent resolve |
| 01:24.59 | FtH|Daemona | pastamancer does the new log support that? aka. does the combatlog tell the school of ve heal? |
| 01:25.06 | Aiiane | heals don't have schools |
| 01:25.13 | Aiiane | spells have schools |
| 01:25.17 | Aiiane | VE is shadow school |
| 01:25.54 | Aiiane | silent resolve is useless for a PvE shadowpriest |
| 01:25.57 | Arrowmaster | FtH|Daemona: the log says what spell school the spell doing the healing is |
| 01:26.03 | Aiiane | that's what Shadow Affinity is for |
| 01:26.27 | FtH|Daemona | anyone knows if there was research done over at EJ? |
| 01:26.34 | Aiiane | sighs |
| 01:26.50 | FtH|Daemona | yeah, i know Aiiane .. but i need some hard facts to stop them from doing stupid stuff |
| 01:26.58 | pastamancer | FtH|Daemona: shadowpriest.com |
| 01:27.18 | Aiiane | FtH|Daemona: just point them at the talent pages for pretty much every top guild out there with shadowpriests |
| 01:27.26 | Aiiane | and they'll see that exactly 0 of them have silent resolve |
| 01:27.57 | FtH|Daemona | *cough* For the Horde *cough* |
| 01:28.28 | Aiiane | yes, your point? I didn't say any particular guild |
| 01:28.29 | Aiiane | I said guilds |
| 01:28.42 | FtH|Daemona | and i learned from doing tests myself as a rogue... that nihilum rogues arnt doing the right stuff on gear selection often too ;) |
| 01:28.51 | FtH|Daemona | if you understand what im talking about |
| 01:29.15 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r68851 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Button.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Fix to alpha level of buttons not always being correct when dragging a new action in. |
| 01:29.26 | Aiiane | but again - heals don't have schools |
| 01:29.29 | Aiiane | only spells have schools |
| 01:29.35 | Aiiane | and VE is most definitely in the shadow school |
| 01:29.38 | Chompers | ckknight: are you still about? |
| 01:29.44 | FtH|Daemona | yeye got that Aiiane :) |
| 01:30.22 | hypetech | some of our raid member's are QQing about locking up when people join/leave the raid, any idea what mod that is? It's not affecting me |
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| 01:30.58 | FtH|Daemona | hypetech sounds like massive addon channel stuff |
| 01:31.02 | Ellipsis | hypetech: some have that issue with pitbull/dogtag |
| 01:31.18 | hypetech | any fix? |
| 01:31.37 | hypetech | I use pitbull for unit frames, but grid for raid frames and I don't get the lag |
| 01:31.57 | Ellipsis | hard to narrow down |
| 01:32.00 | SumpinFishy | I use pitbull/ora2 and definitely get the lag....same raid |
| 01:32.19 | Ellipsis | it has to do with raid frames and the number of tags being registered that way |
| 01:32.35 | pastamancer | not to knock pitbull but from what I've seen on the forums, there's quite a few people who don't use its raid frames |
| 01:32.41 | Ellipsis | I'd guess that when the raid members change all the tags are re-evaluated |
| 01:33.23 | SumpinFishy | That makes sense....I fugured it was all the traffic on the hidden comm channel. Is there an **EASY** way to monitor that? |
| 01:34.01 | Ellipsis | AddonSpamFu will tell you about incoming addon messages from your raid members |
| 01:35.24 | stew_a | recount does as well |
| 01:36.06 | stew_a | and prat'll let you route it to a chat frame |
| 01:36.29 | Nandini | wow this is the longest queue i've seen in a long time, 751 people ahead of me |
| 01:36.29 | Arrowmaster | recounts isnt as good as AddonSpamFu |
| 01:36.37 | Nandini | that's unusual for a wednesday night |
| 01:36.51 | Lukian | really? wed night = raid night |
| 01:36.54 | Arrowmaster | unless the feature i added to AddonSpamFu got put into Recount too |
| 01:37.48 | hypetech | also, an unrelated issue I think. Pitbull's aura module is doing weird shit with scorch on my target frame. It will randomly disappear and reappear and last night while I was the only mage and had a full scorch stack on it kept changing the stack number from 2 then back to 5 and back again whenever it vanished and reappeared |
| 01:38.03 | Primer | What mod has every item in the game and supports wildcard searching? |
| 01:38.22 | Primer | so I can lookup mats for enchants, craftables, etc? |
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| 01:38.39 | Aiiane | wowhead.com :P |
| 01:38.45 | Primer | addon |
| 01:38.47 | Ellipsis | hypetech: were those stack numbers correct or no? |
| 01:38.51 | hypetech | no |
| 01:38.55 | hypetech | it was a 5 stack the whole time |
| 01:39.01 | Lukian | xfire + wowhead :p |
| 01:39.03 | Lukian | or dual monitors |
| 01:39.11 | Primer | seriously |
| 01:39.14 | Primer | I know it exists |
| 01:39.14 | Ellipsis | hypetech: hmm...any other debuffs that might have been stacked at 2? |
| 01:39.16 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: so no way to add something to jira like a "READ THIS FIRST BEFORE CREATING A NEW ISSUE"? |
| 01:39.29 | hypetech | maybe ISB? |
| 01:39.34 | dafi | Primer: i think they're trying to tell you such addon doesn't exist :\ |
| 01:39.35 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: not that I know of, and you'd probably have to get ck to do it |
| 01:39.39 | hypetech | I'm not really sure |
| 01:39.39 | Ellipsis | he has more control over the project than I do |
| 01:39.53 | Arrowmaster | i have 0 access on jira so i have no clue |
| 01:39.58 | Ellipsis | hypetech: hrm, that's an interesting problem though. thanks for the info. |
| 01:40.00 | Primer | dafi: I've seen a guildy link me enchants when he wasn't an enchanter |
| 01:40.10 | hypetech | np. it's not throwing any errors or I'd try to help more :( |
| 01:40.16 | Primer | I just haven't seen him lately to ask what the addon is called |
| 01:40.48 | dafi | Primer: there's addon that gather enchant links but you need to see them first |
| 01:40.52 | Aiiane | there are plenty of mods that allow linking enchants |
| 01:40.53 | WobWork | Primer: Personally, I copy the links from wowhead |
| 01:40.58 | Aiiane | but that don't "have every item in the game" |
| 01:40.59 | hypetech | If I filter debuffs it seems to work okay, but I want/need to see all the target debuffs anyway |
| 01:41.03 | Aiiane | For instance, CraftList2 |
| 01:41.06 | hypetech | would be nice to prioritize my debuffs |
| 01:41.17 | Ellipsis | that's what "sort" should do |
| 01:41.27 | Ellipsis | having problems with that? |
| 01:41.39 | Primer | ok, something with craftables would suffice |
| 01:42.07 | hypetech | well when scorch does it's vanishing act it jumps around in the debuff slots when it does reappear, so it's not being sorted right I guess. Fireball dot seems to work okay from what I can tell |
| 01:42.22 | dafi | personally i'm still waiting for something as good as Saeris lootlink, still love the autocomplete feature |
| 01:42.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis be so kind and make this this 2.0 dogtag into a 3.0 dogtag? :( |
| 01:42.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [Status] | [IsPlayerOrPet ? IsFriend ? SureHP ? FractionalHP:Short] [ [IsEnemy | ~IsPlayerOrPet | [IsPlayerOrPet ? ~SureHP]] ? PercentHP:Percent] |
| 01:42.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :/ |
| 01:42.39 | sag_ich_nicht | the problem is that SureHP would return negative the player HP wasn't known by MobHealth but that tag is no longer available |
| 01:42.50 | sag_ich_nicht | *negative if the player HP wasn't known |
| 01:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | so i need some "in group" check or something to accomplish that |
| 01:43.17 | Aiiane | dafi: ItemSync |
| 01:43.30 | sag_ich_nicht | (as in target is in my group) |
| 01:43.35 | dafi | Aiiane: tried it, no autocomplete |
| 01:43.58 | Aiiane | [*partial text*] will give you the link for the first matching item |
| 01:44.30 | dafi | Aiiane: ye but not as i type autocomplete + sugestions :p |
| 01:44.44 | FtH|Daemona | primer -> on the enchant linking stuff... its a spell with reagent coast at the end -> you can copy them from wowhead etc |
| 01:44.46 | Aiiane | not suggestions, but there *is* an option to automatically replace as you type |
| 01:45.02 | dafi | Aiiane: i'll need to have a look then |
| 01:45.11 | Nandini | hypetech: is it possible other mage's scorch debuffs are overwriting your own? |
| 01:45.13 | Aiiane | it's called Enable Fetch Links in the itemsync options |
| 01:45.45 | hypetech | Nandini: 1) Even if it was it would still show the debuff on the target mob 2) I thought that might be the issue until I had the problem as the only mage last night. |
| 01:46.35 | Primer | I found this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5473-TradeskillInfo.html |
| 01:47.09 | Nandini | i used TSI, but i didn't like that it stole shift-rightclick, made splitting stacks difficult |
| 01:47.12 | Primer | it's ace too! |
| 01:47.13 | Aiiane | note that it hasn't been updated in a year and a half, Primer |
| 01:47.25 | Jaxon | Isn't that information in PT? |
| 01:47.33 | Aiiane | at least, the version on wowi ;) |
| 01:47.37 | Primer | jwow shows april 2, 2008 as the date |
| 01:47.40 | Aiiane | has been though |
| 01:47.49 | Aiiane | *the version on ace |
| 01:48.16 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: to check SureHP now just do [MaxHP(known=true)? ...] |
| 01:48.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 01:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
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| 01:48.39 | Ellipsis | you could do the same with fractional or whatever you like |
| 01:48.50 | dafi | Aiiane: just tried itemsync, it doesn't do it :\ |
| 01:48.53 | Ellipsis | but if it's just for a boolean check, I prefer maxhp as it's slightly more efficient :P |
| 01:49.22 | Aiiane | dafi - is the item you're trying to link in its database yet? |
| 01:49.30 | Aiiane | and not invalid due to 2.4? |
| 01:50.11 | Aiiane | also, did you remember to *turn on* fetch links? :P |
| 01:50.13 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks Ellipsis, works |
| 01:50.14 | Aiiane | it's off by default |
| 01:50.22 | Primer | someone posted a ticket to my addon!! /me jumps for joy! |
| 01:50.37 | Primer | feature request, no less! |
| 01:50.40 | sag_ich_nicht | noob |
| 01:50.59 | Chaud | what addon |
| 01:51.14 | Primer | FlightHUD |
| 01:51.16 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Ping |
| 01:51.25 | dafi | Aiiane: I'm talking about typing "[vengeful gladiator" and having the rest filled in on the fly |
| 01:51.49 | Aiiane | well, like i said it doesn't do suggestions |
| 01:51.56 | hypetech | Primer: show me a screenie, the description makes it seem cool :P |
| 01:51.59 | Aiiane | but typing [*vengeful gladiator*] will give you the first result |
| 01:52.02 | dafi | Aiiane: that's what i really want :P |
| 01:52.09 | Dezzimal | who develops sct >_> |
| 01:52.13 | Primer | hypetech: I can do one better...a video |
| 01:52.18 | Primer | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/11457/ |
| 01:52.18 | hypetech | sweet |
| 01:52.38 | dafi | Aiiane: no addon as done it that besides Saeris's LootLink =( |
| 01:52.40 | kergoth | i cant decide if i want to use flighthud or not |
| 01:52.45 | Primer | of course, that video doesn't show the new bliz options menu |
| 01:52.47 | Lywellyn | Anyone else use PitBull? |
| 01:52.53 | Primer | I use pitbull |
| 01:52.53 | Dezzimal | I noticed that some funtionality disappeared from it after 2.4, namely you used to be able to manually type in values higher than 500 into the sctd outgoing damage filter |
| 01:52.54 | kergoth | i really like having the camera angle shown, so i nkow if i 'm flying up into space or back down or level |
| 01:52.54 | Primer | I love it |
| 01:52.56 | Dezzimal | now you cant :( |
| 01:53.08 | Lywellyn | I should rephrase that: ANyone else use Pitbull with the experience bar for the player frame? |
| 01:53.11 | Primer | except for the inability to have separate configs for 10/15/25/40 man raids |
| 01:53.28 | Lywellyn | Primer: You can't have everything, I suppose. |
| 01:53.30 | Lywellyn | ;) |
| 01:53.33 | Primer | Lywellyn: I did when I was leveling |
| 01:54.21 | Lywellyn | I never saw it as a problem since my main is 70 too, the bar disappears. But I'm levelling an alt, and as soon as my rested XP hit zero, [RestXP] or [PercentRestXP] throws up around two-three errors per second infinitely. |
| 01:54.39 | Primer | update more often...? |
| 01:54.46 | Lywellyn | JUst updated. Still aproblem. |
| 01:54.58 | Lywellyn | Even installed LibDogTag-3.0. |
| 01:55.09 | Primer | I just let jwow handle deps |
| 01:57.34 | CIA-39 | 03next96 * r68852 10Enhancer/locale/koKR.lua: |
| 01:57.34 | CIA-39 | Enhancer: |
| 01:57.34 | CIA-39 | - Update locale koKR |
| 01:57.44 | Ackis | 1% on felmyst... last breath... itgets called out wrong and the entire raid gets MCed lololol /cry |
| 01:57.49 | Diao | hey Shadowed what happened to the option of selecting where afflicted is enabled/disabled :O |
| 01:58.06 | Chaud | ackis you should have stayed on gurubashi |
| 01:58.13 | Chaud | even noto is on felmyst |
| 01:58.18 | Gagorian- | Ackis: At least everyone ran correctly! |
| 01:58.25 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:58.31 | Ackis | notor killed brut? did they nerf him? |
| 01:58.38 | Chaud | I think they did |
| 01:58.51 | Shadowed | Diao: oh |
| 01:58.56 | Shadowed | I forgot to add that back in, i'll fix it |
| 01:58.57 | Ackis | they took 2 months on illidan ffs |
| 01:59.07 | Chaud | nvm |
| 01:59.12 | Chaud | they are still on brut |
| 01:59.19 | Gagorian | Well not like Brutallus is hard in theory |
| 01:59.25 | Chaud | Exanimus is on felmyst |
| 01:59.31 | Ackis | as i explained how notor killes bosses: fuck a wall long enough and you'll get penetration |
| 01:59.41 | Ackis | they killed him tonight chaud |
| 01:59.41 | Diao | also Shadowed for some reason everytime a timer ends it seems to start a 1 hour timer |
| 01:59.43 | Diao | not sure why |
| 01:59.45 | Chaud | winnerz. |
| 01:59.49 | Diao | i have to /afflicted clear to fix it |
| 01:59.52 | Shadowed | I'll look into that, it was working fine for me |
| 01:59.57 | Ackis | going back to felmyst :( |
| 02:00.18 | Diao | i'll try deleting my savedvars once more |
| 02:00.20 | Diao | to see if it fixes it |
| 02:00.57 | luxus | Shadowed: my sspvp2 overlay don't save the position ... |
| 02:04.15 | Lukian | I have an addon still showing Honour DR in tooltips.. any idea what it might be? |
| 02:04.21 | Antiarc | Neat |
| 02:04.23 | Antiarc | Our anvil is finished |
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| 02:05.08 | grennon | yeah, ours opened to today, got the dmg dagger for me ele shaman |
| 02:05.09 | ben | Is it still possible to have more macros than you can create in the default interface? |
| 02:05.19 | ckknight | Lywellyn: pong |
| 02:05.21 | YourMomsHero | are you able to buy pvp gear now with raiding tokens? or was that just a rumor? |
| 02:05.28 | Ellipsis | ckknight: I'm fixing it |
| 02:05.30 | Primer | you can |
| 02:05.38 | YourMomsHero | arena gear? |
| 02:05.40 | Primer | YourMomsHero: T4 = S1, T5 = S2, T6 = S3 |
| 02:05.44 | YourMomsHero | thx |
| 02:05.51 | vithos | it's not T6 = S3, i don't think |
| 02:05.53 | ckknight | Ellipsis: <3 |
| 02:05.58 | Primer | as long as the vendor is available on your realm |
| 02:05.59 | ckknight | Rock Band is fun |
| 02:06.01 | Primer | phase 3 |
| 02:06.03 | vithos | T5/T6 = S2 is what i heard |
| 02:06.08 | MentalPower | ckknight: indeed |
| 02:06.24 | stew_a | anyone know how the new fangled ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter works, presumably you provide it with an event and a callback function, but how does that function modify the message, or can you only suppress/passthrough? |
| 02:06.42 | CIA-39 | 03ellipsis * r68853 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/Categories/Experience.lua: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0: fixed RestXP when not rested. |
| 02:06.53 | Ellipsis | Lywellyn: thanks for the report, shouldn't be any more problems now :) |
| 02:07.18 | CIA-39 | 03pastamancer * r68854 10Grid/ (GridLayout.lua GridStatusHealth.lua): |
| 02:07.18 | CIA-39 | Grid: |
| 02:07.18 | CIA-39 | - fixed typo in GridStatusHealth |
| 02:07.18 | CIA-39 | - Grid should now show both party and raid when relogging while in-combat. |
| 02:07.51 | grennon | chatframe_addmessageeventfilter? |
| 02:08.40 | grennon | is that some blizz function for writing whisper based mod communication? |
| 02:08.52 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:09.12 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Problem with [RestXP] when rested xp = 0 in DogTag-3.0 |
| 02:09.26 | ckknight | well, Ellipsis fixed it, so you're all set, right? |
| 02:09.27 | Lywellyn | Oh. |
| 02:09.32 | Lywellyn | I guess I"ll go see. :p |
| 02:09.39 | JJSheets | is away: Dinner |
| 02:10.09 | Lywellyn | Primer: Thanks for the jwow suggestion. I actually like that updater better. :D |
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| 02:12.09 | Ackis | yay killed fellmyst... omg :( |
| 02:12.23 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 02:12.29 | sag_ich_nicht | enjoy your gate camping |
| 02:12.45 | Swimnurd | The gates opened yesterday for US and today for EU |
| 02:12.52 | Chaud | lewl. |
| 02:13.16 | Gnarfoz | obvious troll is obvious |
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| 02:13.54 | stew_a | how to frag a hard disk: run 5 simultaneous text searches over entire wow folder |
| 02:14.10 | Ackis | our first felmyst kill was last week |
| 02:14.17 | Ackis | just had trouble this week for some reason |
| 02:14.23 | Swimnurd | we are too |
| 02:14.24 | Chaud | aka bad |
| 02:15.30 | Ackis | now it's time for fun gauntlet trash |
| 02:15.39 | sag_ich_nicht | stew_a: lern2google desktop |
| 02:15.46 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Nope, errors still there. |
| 02:15.53 | Lywellyn | one sec, I have a pastey |
| 02:15.59 | stew_a | good idea tbh actually |
| 02:16.20 | ckknight | Lywellyn: seeing as Ellipsis was the one who allegedly fixed the bug, you should probably converse with her |
| 02:16.32 | Ellipsis | Lywellyn: the fix won't even be up on files yet |
| 02:16.38 | Ellipsis | did you update through svn? |
| 02:16.39 | CIA-39 | 03pastamancer * r68855 10GridStatusKalecgos/ (. GridStatusKalecgos.lua GridStatusKalecgos.toc): GridStatusKalecgos: Import from evildead's post. |
| 02:17.12 | Chaud | mmhmm, that flighthud thing looks pretty winnar. |
| 02:17.58 | Lywellyn | Ellipsis: Used jwow. Pitbull is 68199.1 Figured the .1 was the lib update. Forgot about the delay. >.> |
| 02:18.02 | Ackis | lmao |
| 02:18.03 | Ackis | http://forums.teamice.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=456&stc=1&d=1207728920 |
| 02:18.08 | Ackis | flighthud? |
| 02:18.16 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r68856 10BigBrother/BuffWindow.lua: BigBrother: fix buffwindow textures for things with mismatched item->buff names |
| 02:18.17 | Ellipsis | Lywellyn: yeah, try again in ~5mins and you should get the fixed version |
| 02:18.27 | Ellipsis | I'd be quite surprise if I managed to fail at a 4-character fix |
| 02:18.31 | Ellipsis | surprised, too |
| 02:18.47 | Lywellyn | :) |
| 02:19.03 | stew_a | oh great, all 5 searches back 0 hits >.< |
| 02:19.25 | Lywellyn | And it's always fun, when you're testing rested xp at zero, and you accumulate two whole points while logged off. lol |
| 02:20.23 | Chaud | ackis there is a video on curse |
| 02:20.25 | Chaud | on the addon page |
| 02:20.28 | Chaud | look at it |
| 02:20.50 | Chaud | It needs to allow me to fly up and align the bars and afk fly to a waypoint |
| 02:21.16 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68857 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: bug fix in :Lock() |
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| 02:22.36 | Paene | Itemrack not being updated anymore? |
| 02:22.45 | luxus | no :( |
| 02:22.56 | Gnarfoz | it works fine |
| 02:23.00 | Paene | OmniCC still work? |
| 02:23.08 | Gnarfoz | just use 1.992 or if you don't use events, use 2.1 |
| 02:23.13 | Jaxon | OmniCC has been updated. |
| 02:23.34 | Gnarfoz | also, yes, OmniCC works, too (and has received, although not really needed updates ;)) |
| 02:23.45 | Paene | hm... |
| 02:24.08 | luxus | itemrack works |
| 02:24.20 | Gnarfoz | hmm what :P there's a difference between "not updated" and "not working" ;) |
| 02:24.43 | Paene | I don't see omniCC on WAU |
| 02:24.52 | Ackis | chaud, you remember casper? |
| 02:24.57 | Chaud | yes |
| 02:24.59 | Gnarfoz | well, that might be because it's not an Ace addon? |
| 02:25.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Paene: because it's not there. |
| 02:25.00 | Chaud | where is he now |
| 02:25.00 | Ackis | he's in my guild |
| 02:25.02 | Chaud | LOL |
| 02:25.18 | Chaud | why |
| 02:25.23 | Paene | doh, omnicc isn't an ace addon |
| 02:25.24 | Paene | my bad |
| 02:25.24 | Paene | lol |
| 02:25.30 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4836-OmniCC.html |
| 02:25.31 | Ackis | that's where he transfered to when excelsior broke up |
| 02:25.38 | Chaud | what a baddie |
| 02:25.50 | Chaud | I wish I knew how far void is now \ |
| 02:25.55 | Apoco | who is doing RBM-1? |
| 02:26.02 | Ackis | they killed mag last time i talked to them |
| 02:26.45 | Chaud | saw them in SSC a few nights ago |
| 02:26.53 | Chaud | wonder how long they will last =\ |
| 02:27.28 | Ackis | who know |
| 02:27.29 | Ackis | s |
| 02:27.30 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68858 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua: |
| 02:27.30 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 02:27.30 | CIA-39 | - Some LW transitioned to SpellIDs |
| 02:27.30 | CIA-39 | - Time for Twins trash |
| 02:27.31 | CIA-39 | - Chaud punches like a girl |
| 02:27.54 | Chaud | =( |
| 02:27.57 | Chaud | ur mean |
| 02:27.59 | Ellipsis | ~agree CIA-39 |
| 02:28.00 | purl | ACTION forces CIA-39 to agree with ellipsis. "Its no matter, ellipsis is always right CIA-39" |
| 02:28.05 | Ellipsis | well, that works too |
| 02:28.17 | Ackis | kekekek |
| 02:28.32 | Chaud | I don't punch things usually =( |
| 02:28.40 | Ellipsis | I need to remember that one, it could be really handy |
| 02:28.45 | Ackis | there used to be a channel where you just would see updates... is that still around? |
| 02:29.27 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: yes |
| 02:29.29 | Lywellyn | Ackis: #wowace-cia |
| 02:29.33 | Gnarfoz | #wowace-cia |
| 02:29.49 | Ackis | thanks |
| 02:30.04 | *** join/#wowace Ailae (n=konversa@h81172170059.kund.kommunicera.umea.se) |
| 02:30.32 | Ackis | i always whoed cia but it never came up |
| 02:30.55 | Dark_Elf | http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/ bongos, omnicc, bagnon updates |
| 02:30.59 | durcyn | different CIA. |
| 02:33.26 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68859 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 02:33.26 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 02:33.26 | CIA-39 | - Comment updates |
| 02:33.31 | Apoco | RWAR |
| 02:33.32 | Apoco | ~Apoco |
| 02:33.33 | purl | you are, like, sadface |
| 02:33.38 | Apoco | :( |
| 02:33.42 | Apoco | :'((((((((((((((((((((( |
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| 02:36.54 | Dashkal | mwrarf |
| 02:40.36 | Ackis | should these ever be fixed: ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_iTemFu) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 02:41.04 | MentalPower | Ackis: probably |
| 02:41.09 | Ellipsis | those things need to get nuked from trunk, 4srsly |
| 02:41.30 | Ackis | That's what I was thinking Ellipsis... but everytime I see those two errors it irks me |
| 02:41.56 | CIA-39 | 03kergoth 07Auto * r68860 10CrowBar/CrowBar.lua: Indentation fix. |
| 02:42.11 | MentalPower | Ackis: re- updates #cia works too, if you like to get spammed that is :) |
| 02:42.38 | Ackis | only if it's in a can |
| 02:43.21 | exor674 | guessing #cia has ALL cia bots? |
| 02:43.22 | MentalPower | :P |
| 02:43.24 | Chaud | ackis come carry me to 2k |
| 02:43.30 | Ackis | lawls |
| 02:43.37 | Ackis | twins trash afk again |
| 02:43.48 | MentalPower | exor674: just one, but it spews out all the projects that use CIA |
| 02:44.00 | exor674 | haha |
| 02:44.07 | MentalPower | exor674: actually its not #cia, its #commits |
| 02:44.13 | exor674 | I gotta watch that for a few minutes |
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| 02:44.32 | luxus | Apoco: what does drumwatch? |
| 02:44.56 | Chaud | rofl, http://www.wowbash.com//images/1207778132.png |
| 02:45.03 | Lywellyn | Ellipsis: Awesome, works now. Looked at the fix, too, you're absolutely right, I'd have been surprised if that hadn't worked either. :) |
| 02:45.17 | Nandini | what are those two little islands off the extreme southeast tip of tanaris? |
| 02:45.18 | Ellipsis | hehe |
| 02:45.23 | Ellipsis | glad to hear it's working now :) |
| 02:45.24 | Nandini | i think i would have to be a NE druid to get there |
| 02:45.34 | grennon | Nandini: part of the AQ opening quest chain |
| 02:45.56 | Chaud | even more rofl, http://www.wowbash.com/image-2895.html |
| 02:46.16 | Nandini | how the hell did people get there alive? i was able to swim almost all the way through the fatigue, but after my first rez i died again right before hitting coastal waters |
| 02:46.48 | Lywellyn | Chaud: ROFL |
| 02:46.58 | Lywellyn | Three hour ban? Get a sense of humor, srsly. |
| 02:47.14 | Apoco | luxus: It watches Drums? |
| 02:47.17 | Chaud | pretty pro IMO |
| 02:47.28 | Chaud | tempted to try it one day |
| 02:47.36 | Lywellyn | Indeed |
| 02:47.48 | Ellipsis | I've seen someone get away with a comment like that |
| 02:48.02 | luxus | Apoco: and what i can see? :D cooldowns from other drumers in my group? |
| 02:48.09 | Apoco | Yes |
| 02:48.09 | Ellipsis | lucky the GM had a sense of humor and said "sorry, but I'm afraid that's outside my job description" |
| 02:48.17 | Apoco | and teh buff duration on you |
| 02:48.20 | Apoco | and your cooldown |
| 02:48.29 | Apoco | and it announces when you use it to remove the need of a macro |
| 02:48.32 | grennon | Nandini: you get a buff from a mermaid |
| 02:48.39 | Lywellyn | See, that's the way it should be. I'm sure the comment was made in fun, and it should've been taken that way. |
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| 02:49.16 | luxus | does other drummers need that addon too? |
| 02:49.20 | Apoco | no |
| 02:50.03 | Apoco | I need to add a drum order in |
| 02:50.05 | Apoco | but yeah |
| 02:50.08 | Apoco | havent done that yet :( |
| 02:50.10 | grennon | so, the code examples ive found on google of ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter are interesting, i might need to rewrite some hooks i did with it |
| 02:50.24 | grennon | but documentation on it is scant, theres like 6 hits on google total |
| 02:50.24 | luxus | is there any info site about rbm? |
| 02:51.11 | Ackis | Shadowsword Deathbringer's melee swing hits Ackis for 9420 Physical. |
| 02:51.12 | Ackis | Headshot |
| 02:51.37 | Apoco | not really |
| 02:51.41 | Apoco | there may be a wiki page about it |
| 02:51.42 | Apoco | but doubt it |
| 02:51.43 | Lywellyn | Chaud: Are you reading hte top 100 on wowbash? |
| 02:52.17 | Apoco | luxus: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12443.0 |
| 02:52.21 | Apoco | has a desc of it |
| 02:53.31 | SumpinFishy | ok, back to the raid lag issue when people join or leave. Disbling the raid module in pitbull solved the problem. I DL'd grid, and now the problem is back. Is there a specific setting on raidframes that may seem to cause it? |
| 02:53.42 | Ellipsis | ooh, now *that* is interesting |
| 02:53.45 | Jaxon | Range check? |
| 02:53.51 | Ellipsis | they use different code for that |
| 02:54.01 | Ellipsis | the only stuff they have in common is libhealcomm afaik |
| 02:54.13 | SumpinFishy | I use that also |
| 02:54.34 | SumpinFishy | lemme try to disable all calls from libheal and see if the problem goes away |
| 02:56.02 | SumpinFishy | Incoming heals and incoming health....anythng else that might rely on that library? |
| 02:56.19 | Dark_Elf | theres sumpin fishy going on there with that library |
| 02:56.48 | syeren | Anyone here working on Grid? |
| 02:57.18 | syeren | I have a bunch of errors with the latest revision. |
| 02:57.33 | Ellipsis | ~lart pastamancer |
| 02:57.33 | purl | shoots pastamancer in the head |
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| 02:58.12 | Chaud | Lywellyn I was just reading latest |
| 02:58.20 | Chaud | that one is pretty new and already top |
| 02:58.24 | Chaud | because it is pro |
| 03:00.00 | luxus | Apoco: ah i will test it in bt tonight... i install it but how i can setup rbm? /rbm don't work :( |
| 03:00.13 | Apoco | You need RBM? |
| 03:00.16 | Apoco | and RBM_DrumWatch? |
| 03:00.31 | Apoco | DrumWatch is a module for RBM |
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| 03:00.37 | luxus | ah forget it .. i get a error .. soundd was off :D |
| 03:01.10 | Apoco | if theres an error, post it so I can fix it but there shouldnt be |
| 03:01.11 | Ackis | wow gauntlet = nerfed to hell |
| 03:03.50 | Hirsute | So, it seems at least for the last week or so, and possibly since 2.4, if I'm in a party where everyone is using the same version of Omen, I'm only seeing my own threat bar in single-target mode. I still get notifications when I pass 90% of the tank's threat, but no threatbars for anyone else. |
| 03:03.59 | Hirsute | Am I missing an obvious setting somewhere? |
| 03:04.24 | Arrowmaster | might need to drag the window bigger |
| 03:04.37 | Arrowmaster | or check the bar texture setting and make sure its set to a valid texture |
| 03:04.41 | Jaxon | Yeah, the default size is weird. |
| 03:04.45 | Hirsute | Hrmm. Okay |
| 03:04.46 | starlon | Filtered out classes? |
| 03:04.54 | Hirsute | Nope, all classes are enabled. |
| 03:05.03 | Hirsute | Every one is checked, anyway, I assume that's enabled |
| 03:05.21 | Hirsute | I don't even get a threat bar for my pet... it's weird. I'll check to see if I need to enlarge the window |
| 03:06.13 | Delorala | 04:55 [SumpinFishy] ok, back to the raid lag issue [...] <--- today in MH i've had this prob too - screen would freeze up for a few seconds sometimes |
| 03:06.19 | Lukian | check the autocollapse and number of bars option :) |
| 03:06.20 | Delorala | never had it before |
| 03:06.59 | doc^bla | it's horrible on illidan |
| 03:07.03 | Hirsute | Lukian: Will check. Thanks, sorry for the stupid questions. |
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| 03:09.58 | CIA-39 | 03onlyfly * r68861 10Enhancer/locale/zhCN.lua: |
| 03:09.58 | CIA-39 | Enhancer: |
| 03:09.58 | CIA-39 | - Update locale zhCN |
| 03:10.00 | Hirsute | Okay, with Autocollapse, does it show all the threat bars, just adjusting its size when there are fewer? |
| 03:10.12 | luxus | grmpf why rbm need foobar? :( |
| 03:10.25 | SumpinFishy | OK, disbled all the incoming heal stuff...no joy...still lags |
| 03:10.28 | CIA-39 | 03kunda * r68862 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua: GridStatusMissingBuffs: AddBuffGroup: fix (thanks Fritos) and localized description |
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| 03:15.34 | Hirsute | also: Is Threat embedded in Omen? |
| 03:15.38 | SumpinFishy | So what else would grid have in common with Pitbull? Can I physically remove the libhealcomm file and try that? |
| 03:16.08 | Gnarfoz | Hirsute: normally, yes |
| 03:16.34 | Hirsute | Gnarfoz: Great. I've got Threat-2.0 installed separately. It sounds like I don't need to do that. |
| 03:16.47 | Gnarfoz | yeah, you don't, but it shouldn't matter anyway |
| 03:17.19 | Gnarfoz | so, why the fuck do I have to wait for the next battlestar episode to be on now :\ |
| 03:17.27 | *** join/#wowace SchmoZz (n=at@123-243-126-10.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:17.30 | Gnarfoz | aaaghhh shouldn't have watched it :D |
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| 03:20.05 | Gnarfoz | god, there are weird videos out there. I've been mass-consuming Gurtogg Bloodboil kill vids to see what we're doing wrong, and I've got this video with a holy priest PoV, with kyrillic raid chat and 8bit music... and it's compressed with h.264 o_O |
| 03:20.37 | Lywellyn | H'okay, seen an addon I'd like to have: What's the addon that shortens the channel prefix (e.g. [Guild] to [G], [1. General] to possibly [1], etc)? |
| 03:20.47 | starlon | Prat |
| 03:21.08 | Ellipsis | many chat addons have a module for that |
| 03:21.08 | Gnarfoz | the prat module "channelnames" can do that, if you configure it that way |
| 03:21.22 | Gnarfoz | and most others too, but I don't know any other ones by name ;D |
| 03:21.36 | Gnarfoz | (besides SCM, but I heard the mantra of SCM is that you have to basically do shit yourself) |
| 03:21.47 | CIA-39 | 03arkayenro * r68863 10ArkInventory/ (22 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:21.47 | CIA-39 | ArkInventory: |
| 03:21.47 | CIA-39 | - 2.27.03 |
| 03:22.49 | syeren | Ellipsis, get your bondage whip out and get ck working on Parrot 2.0 ! |
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| 03:24.11 | durcyn | nah, he left her for another man. |
| 03:24.43 | SumpinFishy | OK, so the common libraries from pitbull and Grid are Libhealcomm, Callback Handler and LibStub. I am not sure what they do, but could any of them cause the stutter issue? |
| 03:24.47 | Dashkal | incomming... |
| 03:24.53 | CIA-39 | 03dashkal * r68864 10GridStatusParty/ (GridStatusParty.lua LICENSE.TXT locale/enUS.lua readme.txt): |
| 03:24.53 | CIA-39 | GridStatusParty: |
| 03:24.53 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.53 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.53 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.55 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.57 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.16 | Ellipsis | libhealcomm is the only one that does anything really |
| 03:25.25 | VonhintenHOME` | Only stutter I've had is with PerformanceFu on with CPU profiling, and several addons monitored |
| 03:25.26 | Ellipsis | it's possible that there is an issue with it |
| 03:25.40 | SumpinFishy | wait....LibBanzai also |
| 03:25.53 | Dashkal | pastamancer: all fixed, doing the wiki bit now |
| 03:26.19 | SumpinFishy | This stutter is ONLY when someone joins a raid |
| 03:26.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, someone borked the encoding on GridLayout.lua |
| 03:26.31 | CIA-39 | 03pastamancer * r68865 10Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: removed junk from beginning of GridLayout.lua |
| 03:26.40 | NeoTron | wow so i just tried Safari on WWS |
| 03:26.43 | NightHawkTheSane | and, pastamancer fixed it. :P |
| 03:26.59 | NeoTron | Firefox and Opera (inc FF3b4) takes forever to _leave_ the "guild wws page" |
| 03:27.02 | NeoTron | Safari does not |
| 03:27.10 | NeoTron | it actually is amazingly speedy |
| 03:27.16 | SumpinFishy | NeoTron: wow so i just tried Safari on WWS Mac or PC? |
| 03:27.22 | NeoTron | PC |
| 03:27.53 | NeoTron | pretty amazing |
| 03:27.59 | SumpinFishy | I use Safari and Firefox, and with the exception of the few web 2.0 stuff Safari doesn't render right, it whoops the pants off of Firefox in speed |
| 03:28.11 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 03:28.35 | NeoTron | I just didn't expect it to show this kind of improvement. it's like 1/10th the time to swap pages on WWS |
| 03:29.00 | sica | SumpinFishy: which pages don't render right? |
| 03:29.07 | Kurax | Seems the revision will reach 70000 in this week |
| 03:29.45 | SumpinFishy | well, for one, out guild home page |
| 03:29.46 | *** join/#wowace Fatalis (i=fatalisd@68-188-76-94.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:29.46 | Dashkal | in the wiki... though that page doesn't look like it's been updated in a long time... |
| 03:30.12 | Dashkal | well, the history says otherwise. but active relitive to march '07 is odd :p |
| 03:30.16 | sica | SumpinFishy: URL? |
| 03:30.20 | SumpinFishy | http://eidolonguild.org/forum/index.php The picture doesn't stay in the middle frame...it bleeds over into the adjoining column unless your browser window is big enough to make the picture full size |
| 03:30.42 | NeoTron | it just feels very fast |
| 03:31.25 | pastamancer | Dashkal: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid/Other_Modules is the right page |
| 03:31.37 | Dashkal | pastamancer: yep, it's at the bottom of the active list now |
| 03:31.44 | sica | SumpinFishy: hm, yeah, Firefox seems to scale the image automatically |
| 03:31.55 | Dashkal | I was making a comment on "Last Update (as of 27 Mar 2007)" |
| 03:32.01 | Dashkal | I just put a date in that box |
| 03:32.39 | Dashkal | If there's any demand, I'll add icons, but I _really_ doubt people will want an icon for those indicators... |
| 03:33.16 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68866 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua: |
| 03:33.16 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:33.16 | CIA-39 | -Type fix for JC |
| 03:34.24 | *** join/#wowace Fatalis (i=fatalisd@68-188-76-94.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:34.44 | Dashkal | they're low priority for a reason. Im actually tempted to add an option so they vanish altogether in combat. |
| 03:36.07 | pastamancer | and how I've added the kalecgos module |
| 03:36.15 | NivFreak | umm |
| 03:36.21 | NivFreak | so why did grid just break! |
| 03:36.33 | NivFreak | pastamancer: you did a bad thing |
| 03:36.35 | pastamancer | 23:27 < CIA-39> pastamancer * r68865 Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: removed junk from beginning of GridLayout.lua |
| 03:36.40 | Ellipsis | because you touch yourself at night |
| 03:37.26 | CIA-39 | 03starinnia * r68867 10StatBlocks_Reagents/StatBlocks_Reagents.lua: StatBlocks_Reagents: Use consistent options labeling and remove a debug line |
| 03:37.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:26] <NeoTron> Firefox and Opera (inc FF3b4) takes forever to _leave_ the "guild wws page" <--INSTALL FIREFOX BETA5 MORAN |
| 03:38.20 | syeren | Ellipsis, who doesn't?!? |
| 03:38.42 | sylvanaar | that reminds me |
| 03:38.43 | syeren | Kekeke |
| 03:39.06 | sylvanaar | nn |
| 03:39.07 | Ellipsis | o.O; |
| 03:39.16 | Ellipsis | well I did *not* need that mental image |
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| 03:39.33 | NivFreak | go go files |
| 03:39.37 | NivFreak | grid needs fixed |
| 03:39.58 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68868 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua: |
| 03:39.58 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:39.58 | CIA-39 | - Golden Hare Fix |
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| 03:42.02 | Rei | Hey, is there anyone here who can help me with a problem I am having with Cartographer? |
| 03:42.10 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: eloquent as usual... but alas I've installed it. let's see what it does |
| 03:42.15 | Ellipsis | that depends, what's the problem? |
| 03:42.49 | Rei | Every version I get, is either outdated (including the one from this site) or won't let me filter the Profession part of it. |
| 03:42.58 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: still Zzzzzzz |
| 03:43.46 | Ellipsis | erm, the Cartographer zip on files.wowace.com is the latest version |
| 03:43.47 | NeoTron | "A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete."... |
| 03:44.12 | CIA-39 | 03apoco * r68869 10RBM_Hyjal/Anetheron.lua: |
| 03:44.12 | CIA-39 | RBM_Hyjal: |
| 03:44.13 | CIA-39 | - RWAR Anetheron Fix! |
| 03:44.41 | Rei | Well I'm on a ps that is still using 2.3.3, but I've tried getting ones that are for that patch and they still don't work. |
| 03:44.45 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: yeah, but now your Type-1 fonts will render properly! |
| 03:45.45 | Ellipsis | so, er, you're intentionally using an outdated version |
| 03:45.46 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68870 10HealOrganizer/ (HealOrganizer-enUS.lua HealOrganizer.lua): |
| 03:45.46 | CIA-39 | HealOrganizer: |
| 03:45.46 | CIA-39 | - Changed HO Broadcast to be "HO Raid" and added "HO Chan" command to spam it to a channel |
| 03:45.46 | CIA-39 | - Fixed a typo |
| 03:45.57 | Ellipsis | we can't really help you with bugs that have already been fixed |
| 03:46.34 | Arrowmaster | youll find zero support here for private servers |
| 03:47.30 | ckknight | Rei: yea, expect exactly no support from us. (1) it's far too difficult to support multiple patches (2) private servers have their own oddities (3) there are ethical issues |
| 03:47.43 | *** join/#wowace q0909 (n=chatzill@59.42.99.206) |
| 03:48.55 | Rei | Ethical? Pft. I stopped playing retail for those exact reasons. I got sick and tired of putting up with Gold Farmers no matter what server I played on. Unless WoW brings back the Pandaran, I won't be going back to retail. Pandaran means the Chinese can't play no more. ^_^ |
| 03:49.03 | Tem | bye bye |
| 03:49.09 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 03:49.15 | *** kick/#wowace [Rei!n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem] by Tem (Tem) |
| 03:49.28 | Gnarfoz | it's Pandaren, anyway |
| 03:49.36 | sica | putting up with gold farmers? yeah, those guys are the main problem in wow -.- |
| 03:49.41 | Kurax | giggles |
| 03:49.41 | Ackis | anti-private servers? |
| 03:49.53 | Tem | I dare him to rejoin |
| 03:50.02 | Tem | I have the kickban already queued |
| 03:50.08 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 03:50.16 | Ellipsis | hardcore |
| 03:50.17 | Estil | I don't see why anybody needs to buy gold now |
| 03:50.24 | Estil | when these new dailies practically give you free 500 gold |
| 03:50.25 | Estil | every day |
| 03:50.29 | sica | yeah |
| 03:50.30 | Ellipsis | I'm pretty sure that's the idea |
| 03:50.45 | Ellipsis | make gold worthless so people don't bother buying it and the farmers go out of business |
| 03:51.10 | Kurax | In fact the gold farming market got a serious strike by 2.4 |
| 03:51.31 | sica | with the gem-vendor they removed the last reason from the game to actually "farm" gold: buying gems for your pvp-gear |
| 03:51.39 | Gnarfoz | the gold *spamming* however seriously increased :\ |
| 03:51.45 | Estil | aka they are desperate |
| 03:51.45 | Estil | :P |
| 03:52.06 | Gnarfoz | that's what I've been thinking, too |
| 03:52.20 | Gnarfoz | to spam in trade chat, they'd have to use full accounts |
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| 03:52.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+v WobWork] by ChanServ |
| 03:52.56 | WobWork | rofl |
| 03:52.58 | WobWork | babywigs? |
| 03:53.10 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 03:53.15 | Kurax | No |
| 03:53.16 | WobWork | What next? Fetuswigs for solo quest mobs? |
| 03:53.19 | Kurax | Deadminewigs |
| 03:53.38 | Kaaosa | :| Vashj > my guild |
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| 03:55.25 | Kurax | Someone expend babywigs out of Deadmines please |
| 03:55.46 | starlon | Does Swstats sync in combat? |
| 03:55.51 | Kurax | nope |
| 03:56.13 | Arrowmaster | it used to i thought |
| 03:56.49 | Dashkal | wtb hogger protowigs |
| 03:56.51 | Kurax | There has a indicator on the top left corner, when it's red means no |
| 03:57.21 | starlon | I was suspecting it was causing my problems |
| 03:57.51 | starlon | something's dc'ing me in combat :( |
| 03:58.10 | Ackis | omg 1 twin down to 76% |
| 03:58.28 | Zhinjio | licks Ellipsis |
| 03:58.29 | Chaud | ur pro |
| 03:58.48 | Aiiane | obviously a soon-to-be-worldfirst :P |
| 03:58.53 | Kurax | slaps Zhinjio |
| 03:59.08 | Zhinjio | Ahem. |
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| 03:59.48 | Kaaosa | Ayone else having an issue where randomly they get bombed with a billion memory allocation errors and the only way to fix it is to alt-f4 and restart WoW? >_> |
| 04:00.51 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht does |
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| 04:01.08 | Kaaosa | Hm |
| 04:01.10 | Ellipsis | also, bad Kurax. Zhinjio can lick me anytime he wants :P |
| 04:01.15 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio back |
| 04:01.25 | Kurax | WHY |
| 04:02.07 | Ellipsis | because he's nice |
| 04:02.08 | Zhinjio | I paid my membership dues, and got my card in the mail. Thats why. |
| 04:02.13 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:02.39 | Kurax | Oh.. |
| 04:03.03 | Ellipsis | pets Kurax |
| 04:03.13 | Ellipsis | don't be jealous, there's plenty of Ellipsis to go around |
| 04:03.38 | Zhinjio | ...!! |
| 04:03.42 | durcyn | i knew it, fatty. |
| 04:03.46 | Ellipsis | totally |
| 04:04.10 | Kurax | Ellipsis has an unique action for everyone |
| 04:04.18 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 04:04.38 | CIA-39 | 03kunda * r68871 10Mendeleev/locales/deDE.lua: Mendeleev: deDE update |
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| 04:07.23 | hypetech | anybody know why WWS isn't doing boss splits? |
| 04:07.59 | Ackis | Alert: Eredar twins respawn time = 30 seconds, not 90 seconds |
| 04:08.24 | Ackis | <-- just did 1 one thousand all the way up to 30, aren't you proud? |
| 04:08.34 | Ellipsis | grats on counting? |
| 04:08.43 | Ackis | i ran out of fingers three times |
| 04:09.09 | kebinusan | hypetech: its a bug in the client released today it looks like, the report bugs link at the top says it should be fixed soon |
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| 04:13.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:59] <Kaaosa> Ayone else having an issue where randomly they get bombed with a billion memory allocation errors and the only way to fix it is to alt-f4 and restart WoW? >_> <--ya |
| 04:14.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaaosa: this look look familiar: http://pastey.net/85294-3o7l ? |
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| 04:23.00 | Kaaosa | sag_ich_nicht, yeah |
| 04:23.25 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: do you feel better now? |
| 04:25.32 | WobWork | You are not alone! |
| 04:25.41 | WobWork | Kaoosa's here with you |
| 04:25.48 | WobWork | When you're far apart |
| 04:25.53 | WobWork | You're in each other's heart |
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| 04:35.08 | CIA-39 | 03sayclub * r68872 10GridStatusParty/ (GridStatusParty.toc locale/koKR.lua): |
| 04:35.08 | CIA-39 | GridStatusParty: |
| 04:35.08 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:38.59 | vithos | is it possible for the taunt debuff to get pushed off? lol |
| 04:39.06 | vithos | 40 is such a dumb debuff limit |
| 04:39.15 | Aiiane | not as dumb as the old one |
| 04:40.19 | Fix[EJ] | Ugh |
| 04:40.23 | Fix[EJ] | Barman shanker best debuff |
| 04:40.30 | Aiiane | did you know that the level 60 CoS and CoE have a hard-coded special priority for debuff slots, because in pre-BC raiding they were getting pushed off far to much? |
| 04:40.46 | Ellipsis | that's why some locks still use those instead of the 70 ones |
| 04:40.58 | Ellipsis | the only difference is the -resist which doesn't generally matter |
| 04:41.07 | Aiiane | if there're a lot of debuff classes in the raid, I do |
| 04:41.19 | Deloralala | this limit sucks, our ret keeps losing my JoW ;-) |
| 04:41.36 | Aiiane | heh |
| 04:41.37 | Antiarc | So |
| 04:41.52 | Antiarc | There are like 200 people standing on the anvil vendor, blocking the ability for anyone to actually get the the anvil vendor |
| 04:41.55 | Antiarc | So a GM showed up |
| 04:41.57 | Ellipsis | it's amazing how easy it is to keep debuffs up as soon as your locks respec 21/40 |
| 04:42.04 | Aiiane | hahaha elli |
| 04:42.07 | Antiarc | And cast L5 Arcane Charge on the Anvil vendor |
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| 04:42.13 | Aiiane | yeah.... 4-5 slots per lock adds up fast |
| 04:42.14 | Antiarc | Which is the spell that those bots before Council in BT use |
| 04:42.20 | Antiarc | Which hits you for like 15k if you stand in it |
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| 04:42.33 | Aiiane | nice, Antiarc |
| 04:42.36 | Aiiane | got screenies? :P |
| 04:42.45 | Antiarc | I'm in BT |
| 04:42.48 | Aiiane | bah |
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| 04:42.54 | Antiarc | A guildmate is telling me |
| 04:43.00 | Aiiane | tell them to get screenies |
| 04:43.00 | Deloralala | our fucking server will have it ready in... FIVE fucking days... |
| 04:43.11 | Deloralala | and u got it already ;-( |
| 04:43.13 | Aiiane | its only 5 days, del |
| 04:43.25 | Deloralala | its a whole lifetime |
| 04:43.32 | Fix[EJ] | Haha Antiarc, GMs know how to clean out a room. |
| 04:43.36 | Deloralala | i can lvl 1-70 in that time *laugh* |
| 04:43.39 | Ellipsis | Deloralala: what are you, 6? :P |
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| 04:44.01 | Deloralala | Ellipsis: double that ;) |
| 04:44.06 | Deloralala | twice |
| 04:44.55 | Ellipsis | you're 6666? |
| 04:44.58 | Ellipsis | daaaaaang |
| 04:45.03 | Dashkal | wow, been here almost two hours and no omen or threat update :p Is it actually getting stable? |
| 04:45.20 | Ellipsis | Dashkal: no, Antiarc's in BT...didn't you read that? :P |
| 04:45.26 | Deloralala | no Dashkal, they gave up on it |
| 04:45.27 | Aiiane | ell beat me :P |
| 04:45.36 | Dashkal | heh, I know :p |
| 04:45.38 | Ellipsis | soon as he gets out there will be like 12 fixes for BT bosses and a couple random class bugs |
| 04:45.39 | Aiiane | antiarc's just preocupied :P |
| 04:45.39 | Ellipsis | you just know it |
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| 04:46.13 | vithos | ugh, every time someone goes offline or logs in in the raid group my screen freezes for a second |
| 04:46.16 | Aiiane | i can almost see it... "antiarc, why weren't you paying attention?!?" "oh, sorry, was gathering data for debugging" |
| 04:46.27 | Ellipsis | he can so get away with it |
| 04:46.38 | Ellipsis | after all, they get to blame him for every wipe even if he isn't in the raid |
| 04:46.43 | Aiiane | haha |
| 04:46.50 | whatsinthename | can you guys suggest the common dev mods people use? i am using devtools right now which is very handy |
| 04:46.53 | Ellipsis | pretty sure they're willing to put up with a little afking if he's making omen better for them :P |
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| 04:48.42 | BestNicholas | Check out my ad! http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ele/636894612.html Don't flag me! |
| 04:49.27 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 04:50.07 | Antiarc | They do, actually |
| 04:50.19 | Antiarc | I top the damage meters anyhow :P |
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| 04:50.58 | Jaxon | I don't know what kind of hunter lets you get ahead of htem |
| 04:51.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=dvsdv@207.138.47.*] by kergoth |
| 04:51.56 | *** kick/#wowace [BestNicholas!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (fuck your ad.) |
| 04:52.16 | Jaxon | It was a scam anyways. $275 for a game that comes with a Wii? |
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| 04:56.18 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68873 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua: |
| 04:56.18 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 04:56.18 | CIA-39 | - All LW < 200 converted to Spell IDs |
| 04:56.18 | CIA-39 | - Babble Trade Skills, your days are numbered! |
| 04:58.52 | sica | Antiarc: our mages claim invisibility is still bugged in omen, resetting the threat to zero after the first tick, is that true? :( |
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| 05:05.12 | CIA-39 | 03gnarfoz * r68874 10FishingAce/FishingAce.lua: FishingAce - added itemid 34861 "Sharpened Fish Hook" to the list of lures |
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| 05:06.03 | vithos | Antiarc: a hunter pet just had 190k threat right after a brutallus kill. the hunter is using 68842 |
| 05:06.17 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/badgevendor.jpg |
| 05:06.38 | vithos | s/kill/pull/ |
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| 05:07.52 | vithos | it's a ravager |
| 05:11.41 | pakoz | I remember using a mod a while back - it let me simulate different gear |
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| 05:13.15 | pakoz | anyone know what its called? |
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| 05:14.48 | Kurax | WoWEquip? |
| 05:15.09 | pakoz | sounds right |
| 05:15.18 | pakoz | is there a website with similar/same ability? |
| 05:15.23 | pakoz | so i dont have to be in game? |
| 05:15.28 | pakoz | or a way to run the mod outside of the game? |
| 05:15.28 | Silverstorm | warcrafter.net |
| 05:15.39 | Dashkal | warcrafter = awesomeness |
| 05:17.37 | Kaaosa | Depending on your class, Rawr is a useful program |
| 05:17.46 | pakoz | shaman, enhancew |
| 05:18.09 | Kaaosa | Don't think it supports shamans yet :| |
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| 05:25.47 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68875 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua: |
| 05:25.47 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 05:25.47 | CIA-39 | - All LW recipes < 300 have been converted. Muhahahhaha |
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| 05:38.58 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68876 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua: |
| 05:38.58 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 05:38.58 | CIA-39 | - LW update (removed some duplicate recipes) |
| 05:38.58 | CIA-39 | - More LW conversions to Spell ID |
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| 05:46.19 | CIA-39 | 03cryect 072.4 * r68877 10Recount2/ (GUI_MainList.lua widgets/scrolllist.lua widgets/windows.lua): |
| 05:46.19 | CIA-39 | Recount2: |
| 05:46.19 | CIA-39 | -Right clicking on a list window lets you "configure" the window by clicking on Config (at the bottom) |
| 05:46.19 | CIA-39 | -Scroll list properly take into account row spacing for row counts now |
| 05:46.19 | CIA-39 | -Scroll list no longer sort (presort before adding entries if its desired) |
| 05:46.22 | CIA-39 | -Can call MakeUnresizable on windows now to disable resizing |
| 05:48.23 | vithos | lol, all that shit people say about brutallus having high armor? lies |
| 05:48.26 | vithos | he has 7500 |
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| 05:48.57 | Gnarfoz | he has 11m hp tho. never heard about him having high AC :D |
| 05:49.01 | Silverstorm | probably 7700, unless they did something really funky. generally 6200, 7700, or 8500 (void reaver) |
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| 05:50.52 | vithos | people were saying he had 8800 or 9000+ |
| 05:50.59 | vithos | but no, he doesn't even have 7700 |
| 05:51.16 | vithos | it's within about 50 of 7500 |
| 05:51.21 | vithos | i can get exact bounds in a minute |
| 05:53.20 | Cryect | thats after adding all armor debuffs back to him? |
| 05:53.24 | Snago | how are you checking? |
| 05:53.33 | Cryect | Not that I care just curious |
| 05:53.51 | vithos | i'm shooting him with a screeching bow |
| 05:53.55 | vithos | it has no damage range |
| 05:53.59 | vithos | i'm naked |
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| 05:54.39 | Silverstorm | I say 7700 because there was a LOT of analysis done over on Elitist Jerks forums about boss armor values and optimizing CoR vs. another curse |
| 05:54.48 | vithos | 7425 is the minimum he could have |
| 05:54.54 | Ellipsis | wait what, naked people? |
| 05:55.02 | Silverstorm | they found every boss to have 6200 or 7700, except Loot Reaver |
| 05:55.11 | vithos | that would be 150.49 damage, i hit him for 150 3 times in a row |
| 05:55.25 | Cryect | making sure to take into account he's 73? and thats about all to check |
| 05:56.14 | vithos | 7545 is 149.49 damage |
| 05:56.19 | vithos | yes i'm taking that into account |
| 05:56.31 | vithos | i'm using the hunter spreadsheet |
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| 05:56.51 | CIA-39 | 03cryect 072.4 * r68878 10Recount2/Recount2.toc: |
| 05:56.51 | CIA-39 | Recount2: |
| 05:56.51 | CIA-39 | -Changed Ace3 title tag to a PreAlpha tag |
| 05:57.07 | vithos | so average between those is 7485 |
| 05:57.50 | Snago | and there's no hunter talent or anything to ignore armor? |
| 05:57.56 | vithos | no |
| 05:58.21 | Jaxon | Was your pet out? |
| 05:58.25 | vithos | i removed the talents that would skew it/turned off the calculations for hunter's mark etc, all the assumptions the sheet makes by default |
| 05:58.30 | vithos | my pet was dead, so i removed that talent |
| 05:59.05 | vithos | i had no buffs at all |
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| 06:05.36 | Silverstorm | I guess it's possible he has a different armor value, but I'd be surprised |
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| 06:06.09 | vithos | different from the BT/hyjal bosses, or different from what people were saying he had on the PTR? |
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| 06:06.53 | Silverstorm | differnet from all BC bosses, actually. they all have 6200 or 7700 (except void reaver has 8500) |
| 06:07.16 | Silverstorm | at least, all bosses pre-Sunwell. I haven't seen numbers for Sunwell bosses yet |
| 06:07.55 | vithos | kara bosses had different values than 6200/7700 i think |
| 06:08.11 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68879 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua): |
| 06:08.11 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:08.11 | CIA-39 | - LW Update |
| 06:08.11 | CIA-39 | - More conversions to Spell IDs... almost there! |
| 06:08.58 | vithos | 7500, 6700, 6100, 3800, 5500 |
| 06:09.02 | vithos | in cheeky's sheet |
| 06:09.17 | CIA-39 | 03elsia * r68880 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 06:09.17 | CIA-39 | Recount: |
| 06:09.17 | CIA-39 | - Added bandaid and debug message for heals without source. |
| 06:09.17 | CIA-39 | - Fixed nil VerNum. |
| 06:11.10 | vithos | could have just been less strict estimates |
| 06:11.22 | on1y | durcyn |
| 06:11.27 | vithos | but with the math on my auto shots, the bounds are pretty tight |
| 06:11.51 | on1y | t6 gloves w/10haste or 12dmg? |
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| 06:14.00 | vithos | did wowwebstats disable splitting? |
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| 06:18.20 | ZealotOnAStick | We were having the same problem finding out how to do so if it's still possible earlier. |
| 06:18.28 | basslingo | Tukkub: would you mind making that warning about TomTom go away on Tourguide if the user has Cartographer :P |
| 06:18.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Merging seems to be in, but splitting sort of disappeared. |
| 06:18.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Making it vastly less useful. |
| 06:18.41 | mikma | tukkub! |
| 06:18.43 | vithos | yeah |
| 06:18.53 | vithos | i tried parsing the same log twice, no dice |
| 06:18.59 | vithos | completely useless |
| 06:19.27 | mikma | Tekkub: you got yourself a new name, Tukkub |
| 06:19.39 | vithos | there's kalecgos in my log, and you miss half the combat events during that fight |
| 06:19.39 | Tekkub | :P |
| 06:19.49 | basslingo | yea -.- |
| 06:19.56 | basslingo | my spelling is horendous |
| 06:20.46 | mikma | basslingo: tek (tab) = Tekku(b) yeah i scrambled it so he won't get pinged or something :D but go irssi! |
| 06:20.50 | basslingo | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.01 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68881 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc RecipeDB/ARL-LeatherWork.lua embeds.xml): |
| 06:21.01 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:21.01 | CIA-39 | - Bye bye babble-tradeskill |
| 06:21.01 | CIA-39 | - Saved about 400kb of memory while just idle... pro. |
| 06:21.07 | Ackis | dances for joy |
| 06:21.35 | mikma | hah, 400kb, that's almost as much as bill gates thinks what should be enough for everyone |
| 06:21.46 | Ackis | lol |
| 06:22.13 | CIA-39 | 03phanx 07Ace3 * r68882 10OnScreenHealth/ (Config.lua Core.lua OnScreenHealth2.toc Options.lua): OnScreenHealth: options table complete, some options functional |
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| 06:26.01 | Ellipsis | ping Arrowmaster |
| 06:26.09 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 06:26.25 | Ellipsis | hi, you look like you want to help me keep the cart jira in line |
| 06:26.31 | Arrowmaster | fuck no |
| 06:26.54 | Ellipsis | but you're commenting on all the tickets |
| 06:26.59 | Arrowmaster | 2 |
| 06:27.01 | Arrowmaster | only 2 |
| 06:27.05 | Ellipsis | you could close them at the same time and save me so much frustration! |
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| 06:27.13 | Ellipsis | :< |
| 06:27.39 | Arrowmaster | fine but dont expect me to actually go there just to do it |
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| 06:28.07 | Ellipsis | I don't expect anything of anyone |
| 06:28.30 | Ellipsis | but any help I can get with the cart stuff is appreciated, seeing as I don't even use the addon so most of the time I can't tell a legitimate issue from user fail :P |
| 06:28.37 | basslingo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:30.20 | Arrowmaster | should just remove Cartographer_Professions to force everybody to use GatherMate imho |
| 06:30.45 | Ellipsis | should just close the jira and let the users cry to themselves until the new version comes out imho |
| 06:30.50 | thul | Ellipsis: how is the running away project going? |
| 06:30.59 | Ellipsis | thul: say what? |
| 06:31.13 | JJSheets | is back (gone 04:21:34) |
| 06:31.19 | thul | we are over that phase? |
| 06:31.25 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68883 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 06:31.25 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:31.25 | CIA-39 | - Added comments and bumped to version 0.80 |
| 06:31.28 | Ellipsis | huh? |
| 06:31.35 | thul | nevermind then |
| 06:31.41 | Ellipsis | I'm confused :< |
| 06:32.21 | thul | you were talking about running away/moving a month or three back |
| 06:32.27 | Ellipsis | er |
| 06:32.33 | Ellipsis | I ran away with ck for a while |
| 06:34.26 | thul | ok, but you are back? |
| 06:34.32 | Ellipsis | back where? o.O |
| 06:34.37 | Ellipsis | I'm living somewhere else now |
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| 06:35.33 | thul | ok |
| 06:35.47 | Ellipsis | what can I say, I move a lot I guess :P |
| 06:36.23 | thul | I guess |
| 06:36.26 | thul | I'm in Berlin :-D |
| 06:36.30 | thul | but no berliners here :-( |
| 06:36.51 | ZealotOnAStick | did you move anywhere interesting? |
| 06:36.58 | Ellipsis | no |
| 06:37.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Are you military, or military family? |
| 06:37.03 | Ellipsis | quite the opposite, I'm in oklahoma |
| 06:37.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Or do you just have to keep finding new places to stash the bodies? |
| 06:37.11 | Ellipsis | lol, no |
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| 06:37.25 | Ellipsis | I moved out of my parents' house and never went back |
| 06:37.34 | Ellipsis | so I tend to have a less-than-stable living situation |
| 06:37.40 | Ellipsis | (no job, etc.) |
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| 06:38.02 | thul | get a job working construction |
| 06:38.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh, the Great American Slacker Dream. |
| 06:38.13 | thul | down at johnstone company! |
| 06:38.18 | Ellipsis | it's true, and I'm loving it |
| 06:38.42 | thul | I have two eyars left of my education, I'm loving that :-D |
| 06:38.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Nargiddley: Aloft raped my cat in 2.4. |
| 06:39.02 | thul | black suits, shiny leather shoes, court meetings and heavy money, here i come :-P |
| 06:39.10 | Ellipsis | thul: icky :P |
| 06:39.17 | thul | noo :-D |
| 06:39.26 | ZealotOnAStick | that's ok. |
| 06:39.46 | ZealotOnAStick | they tagged his soul when he took the LSAT. |
| 06:39.47 | thul | I'd just love being done with my studies, having the knowledge i need and out working. |
| 06:40.01 | Ellipsis | what do studies have to do with knowledge |
| 06:40.13 | thul | quite a bit, especially if you are a law student :-P |
| 06:40.23 | thul | method, ways of thinking and just good ol' knowledge |
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| 06:40.34 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 06:40.46 | thul | pfft away, but it is.. :-) |
| 06:41.07 | ZealotOnAStick | you have to Study to get your mind to bend that many times and still come out the other end looking honest. |
| 06:41.17 | thul | in a prejudidicate based legal system (the american and british very much so, the norwegian not so much), knowledge is very important |
| 06:41.52 | thul | you have to know familiar judgements, know how they are interpreted, learn how to interpret them yourselves, and use quite a lot of knowledge about legal history in the process :-P |
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| 06:44.05 | Ellipsis | which is exactly why such a career is icky :P |
| 06:44.09 | CIA-39 | 03grennon * r68884 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: |
| 06:44.09 | CIA-39 | AutoTurnin: |
| 06:44.09 | CIA-39 | Removed Atumal Armaments Quest since it presents multiple rewards. |
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| 06:50.09 | Ellipsis | media keys on the front of the laptop really suck when it's on your lap |
| 06:50.12 | Ellipsis | just a thought |
| 06:50.26 | Paene | lol |
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| 06:51.12 | MentalPower | Ellipsis: agreed |
| 06:52.39 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68885 10Mendeleev/ (. Mendeleev.lua Sets.lua embeds.xml locales/enUS.lua): |
| 06:52.39 | CIA-39 | Mendeleev: |
| 06:52.39 | CIA-39 | - Removed references to Babble Trade Skill w/ Rabbits permission |
| 06:52.39 | CIA-39 | - It still works zomg! |
| 06:52.44 | Zhinjio | b |
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| 06:53.01 | Ackis | Ellipsis: as of tonight there are two add-ons that don't use babble trade skill... does that make you smile? |
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| 06:53.32 | WobWork | My keyboard's 'Music' key is right above my escape key |
| 06:53.40 | Ellipsis | grats Ackis, that's awesome |
| 06:54.11 | Ackis | I think there are only 5 add-ons that are left using it... is there a better way to check aside from updating the library and seeing which add-ons get rebuilt? |
| 06:54.14 | WobWork | thul: Ich bin Berliner? =P |
| 06:54.54 | Ellipsis | Ackis: grep trunk? :P |
| 06:54.55 | Paene | what's wrong with babble trade skill? |
| 06:55.04 | Ellipsis | it's unnecesary |
| 06:55.08 | Ellipsis | unnecessary too |
| 06:55.10 | Grum | tradeskills == spells etc |
| 06:55.14 | Ackis | it's useless now with GetSpellInfo and it's huge |
| 06:55.16 | Paene | ah good point |
| 06:55.42 | Ellipsis | babbles are huge wastes of resources, and very rarely needed anymore |
| 06:55.48 | Grum | now if we could just get 'object ids' of items ingame |
| 06:55.56 | Grum | then babbles would be mostly gone |
| 06:56.16 | Grum | (like ore veins etc) |
| 06:56.43 | Paene | so is babble-spell needed still? |
| 06:56.46 | Ellipsis | no |
| 06:56.47 | Grum | nope |
| 06:56.48 | Ackis | nope |
| 06:56.50 | Paene | I just reactivated my acct |
| 06:56.58 | Paene | so I haven't been keeping up on UI updates |
| 06:57.24 | Paene | you said GetSpellInfo is the replacement? |
| 06:57.31 | Paene | ~api GetSpellInfo |
| 06:57.32 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo |
| 06:58.25 | Paene | I'm assuming it returns the localized name of the spell? |
| 06:58.42 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 06:58.47 | Paene | nice |
| 06:58.52 | Ackis | more than that as well |
| 06:59.04 | Ellipsis | it returns all the fun stuff you can possibly want to know |
| 06:59.09 | Zhinjio | boo boo be doop. |
| 06:59.27 | Paene | oh wow |
| 06:59.29 | Paene | mana cost too |
| 06:59.30 | Paene | amazing |
| 06:59.43 | Paene | did this just get added in 2.4? |
| 06:59.55 | Ackis | aye |
| 07:00.03 | Paene | I think I'm in love |
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| 07:01.02 | ncd|Aileen | mh, GetSpellInfo returns the Casttime, the baseTime or the Casttime with Spellhaste/Buffs etc? |
| 07:01.19 | Paene | test it |
| 07:01.42 | Arrowmaster | with spellhaste/buffs |
| 07:02.03 | exor674 | and talents? |
| 07:03.00 | Grum | O M G! i've got MISTARRRRR PINCHY! |
| 07:03.11 | Ackis | lol grats grum |
| 07:03.21 | Ellipsis | grats Grum |
| 07:03.27 | Paene | exor674: I'm assuming it's the actual time value used by the game when the spell is cast |
| 07:03.32 | Paene | so, yes with talents |
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| 07:03.47 | Grum | last wish gave pinchy :D |
| 07:04.27 | exor674 | you know |
| 07:04.35 | exor674 | I know ther can't be a mod that moves you |
| 07:04.35 | Roblibob | when on the subject, can getSpellInfo dig up information on spells cast by boss encounters? |
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| 07:04.48 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:04.52 | exor674 | but there should be a mod that, when a player blows up the raid more then once |
| 07:05.07 | exor674 | it uninstalls WoW, sets their firewall not to download the WoW client |
| 07:05.15 | Paene | lol |
| 07:05.15 | exor674 | AND snaps their WoW cDs <_< |
| 07:05.17 | Roblibob | hehe |
| 07:05.23 | Ackis | blowing up raids is fun |
| 07:05.40 | Zeksie | Roblibob: yes, but there's a lot of boss/other spells that just say: SpellName/Instant in tooltip :| |
| 07:06.11 | Roblibob | ah ok. |
| 07:07.08 | Roblibob | It would be sweet to be able to click on the spells in the combat log to see wtf hit you. :) |
| 07:07.15 | Arrowmaster | you can |
| 07:07.28 | Roblibob | on default? |
| 07:07.53 | Arrowmaster | type /run TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SPELL = TEXT_MODE_A_STRING_SPELL_LINK |
| 07:08.46 | Roblibob | cool thanks. ill fiddle around a bit after work ;) |
| 07:08.54 | Ackis | hmmm the code in whodrop confuses me |
| 07:09.13 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: hehe, that was one of the first changes I made when 2.4 was released :) |
| 07:10.02 | Zeksie | i pulled the combatlog code and edited that, plus the timestamp to show the decimals, and the unit token bits. |
| 07:10.28 | thul | WobWork: du bist? :-D |
| 07:10.31 | thul | ach so! |
| 07:10.45 | Arrowmaster | decimals as in more precise than a second? and waht unit tokens? |
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| 07:22.28 | Zeksie | Arrowmaster: check the source. they commented out some code that will add tags to commonly named mobs, so you get A rock elemental, A rock elemental A, a rock elemental B etc. I did same kinda thing, but would suffix them with (1), (2) etc. |
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| 07:22.58 | Zeksie | and yes, timestamps to millisec precision just as they are supplied to the combat events |
| 07:23.09 | Pkekyo|edu | morning lads and lasses |
| 07:23.14 | Tinyboom | mornin |
| 07:23.19 | Zeksie | *wave |
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| 07:24.34 | Zeksie | meh... why do ppl post X-Perl issues to US forum >< |
| 07:24.39 | Tinyboom | *drinks more coffee (waiting for my brain to catch up with my body...) |
| 07:24.39 | Zeksie | die |
| 07:24.54 | Pkekyo|edu | Zeksie: because people are retarded? :> |
| 07:25.08 | Zeksie | good answer |
| 07:25.42 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r68886 10Mendeleev/locales/zhTW.lua: |
| 07:25.42 | CIA-39 | Mendeleev: |
| 07:25.42 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 07:25.57 | Zeksie | well. in this case it's nothing to do with X-Perl.. i get it a lot. because it's a unitframe mod, and hte main thing they see on their screen, then it MUST be responsible for everything they see... |
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| 07:29.58 | Pkekyo|edu | ofcourse |
| 07:29.58 | Pkekyo|edu | that's just...er...common sense? :p |
| 07:29.59 | JJSheets | no, user sense. |
| 07:30.07 | Tinyboom | retards don't think logically... :p |
| 07:30.16 | Pkekyo|edu | JJSheets: that's what I'm implying |
| 07:30.17 | Arrowmaster | oh wtf, avast4home is erroring when trying to update on my dads computer |
| 07:30.28 | JJSheets | lol |
| 07:30.35 | JJSheets | AntiVir. |
| 07:30.40 | JJSheets | Get it. Love it. |
| 07:30.54 | Tinyboom | Arrowmaster: Eset NOD32;) |
| 07:30.59 | JJSheets | http://www.freeav.com |
| 07:31.06 | Pkekyo|edu | I haven't used an AV client for years |
| 07:31.20 | JJSheets | manually removes any viruses he gets. |
| 07:33.58 | basslingo | can i get some help with Ace3 |
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| 07:34.11 | JJSheets | ask, don't ask to ask. |
| 07:34.13 | Arrowmaster | one requirement for an AV program is that it must update it self without an admin logging in, does antivir or nod32 do that? |
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| 07:34.33 | basslingo | having issues using the AddChatCommand() function http://ace.pastey.net/85448 |
| 07:34.35 | JJSheets | Arrowmaster, not absolutely certain... |
| 07:35.04 | Arrowmaster | basslingo: your doing it wrong |
| 07:35.12 | basslingo | well i know that ^^ |
| 07:35.18 | Arrowmaster | AceConsole-3.0 doesnt deal with options tables at all |
| 07:35.22 | Arrowmaster | use AceConfig-3.0 |
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| 07:35.36 | basslingo | digs around |
| 07:35.53 | Arrowmaster | and eww globals |
| 07:36.15 | JJSheets | globals are evil. use them as sparingly as possible, if at all. :p |
| 07:36.17 | basslingo | yea its really sloppy...... just trying to get it to spit somthing back |
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| 07:49.14 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r68887 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: zhCN bug fix |
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| 07:52.17 | CIA-39 | 03ammo * r68888 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: |
| 07:52.17 | CIA-39 | oRA2: remove the need for BabbleSpell-3.0 and SpecialEventsAura. |
| 07:52.17 | CIA-39 | RN messages are nolonger sent. Default UFs have filters for buffs etc anyway. |
| 07:52.31 | CIA-39 | 03ammo * r68889 10oRA2/ (Libs/ embeds.xml oRA2.toc): oRA2: remove SEEA and LBS-3.0 |
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| 07:54.08 | Ayth | Is there a way to link a spell by spellid in chat via an easy script? ^^ |
| 07:55.18 | Ackis | what's the HasBaseTranslation for babble-3.0's? |
| 07:56.36 | Zeksie | for i=1,50000 do if (GetSpellInfo(i) == "MySpellName") then ChatFrame2:AddMessage(i) end end |
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| 08:04.44 | Zeksie | every else needs to hurry up with killing BS.. |
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| 08:06.00 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r68890 10FlightHUD/Locale-zhCN.lua: FlightHUD: zhCN fix |
| 08:06.27 | Orionshock | so... did all of the babble stuff get replaced with GetSpellInfo, or did a few of em survive? |
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| 08:11.37 | charon | morning |
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| 08:21.23 | Orionshock | ... |
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| 08:22.32 | Orionshock | there something weird and special about FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu? |
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| 08:22.57 | Ackis | regarding my post? |
| 08:23.21 | Orionshock | ya, im getting an Auth Failed, when trying to fix the typos |
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| 08:26.03 | charon | Antiarc: here's a tough one: last night in MH there were sometimes Mana Tide Totems on the AOE display, meaning they were somehow treated as enemies. however i can't see why that would have happened, according to my logs the totems always were REACTION_FRIENDLY and (AFFILIATION_PARTY or _RAID) |
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| 08:27.06 | Ackis | hmmm... can you create trial accounts of EU servers? |
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| 08:27.12 | Orionshock | Ackis: yes |
| 08:27.32 | NeoTron | so best bryutallus attemopt: 20% at the 5 minute mark |
| 08:28.00 | Ayth | the last 20% is the easiest ;) |
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| 08:28.09 | Ackis | Orionshock: Can I connect to a EU server with the US client? (I basically want to test something out on a foreign local) |
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| 08:28.32 | Orionshock | Ackis: no u have to download the EU client to get the locale information |
| 08:28.41 | Ackis | facepalms |
| 08:29.15 | NeoTron | some 45 attempts |
| 08:29.16 | Orionshock | then once u have the client updated you can copy over the locale folder from wow/data into your US client |
| 08:29.29 | NeoTron | and last 20% isn't exactly much easier with 1 mage and 1 dps warrior now is it? |
| 08:29.31 | Orionshock | then using the launcher extra options change the locale for the US client and load in |
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| 08:29.47 | Orionshock | locale hacks, aint they great? |
| 08:29.54 | Ackis | no, no they aren't |
| 08:30.13 | Ackis | but that means i can test other locales on the US servers? |
| 08:30.18 | Arrowmaster | if your going to try that, always keep 2 wow installs |
| 08:30.19 | Orionshock | yes |
| 08:30.45 | Orionshock | Ackis: just remember, some addons DO NOT like you changing locale on them |
| 08:31.01 | Arrowmaster | the enUS patchers will fail if they find any other locale folders in the data folder, so you have to delete them before patching |
| 08:31.04 | Orionshock | IE: reagentFu pitched a fit on me |
| 08:31.04 | Ackis | aye, i just want to try on initial login |
| 08:31.28 | Arrowmaster | and the EU patches will fail if they find enUS in the data folder |
| 08:31.54 | NeoTron | stupid WWS wtf is it not splitting for |
| 08:32.47 | Orionshock | any idea why GetTradeSkillLine() would return "UNKNOWN" ? |
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| 08:33.10 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: right now i have 2 wow installations, one is my normal the other is fresh without add-ons so I can make sure my mod works stand-alone |
| 08:35.04 | Orionshock | ...ok noob question, how do i throw and error w/o interrupting execution? |
| 08:35.26 | quiesense | very carefully |
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| 08:38.23 | Ackis | ugh i have to create a trial acct to actually dl it |
| 08:38.25 | exor674 | Orionshock: with sporks! |
| 08:38.45 | Arrowmaster | no you dont |
| 08:38.53 | exor674 | you know |
| 08:39.04 | Arrowmaster | should be able to get a link to it on blizzards site somewhere |
| 08:39.06 | exor674 | if I ever make an API, I am so having a spork() function in it |
| 08:39.07 | Ackis | I found a direct link but it was forcing me to login |
| 08:39.09 | exor674 | <__< |
| 08:39.18 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 08:39.19 | Ackis | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/burningcrusade/download/index.html |
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| 08:41.12 | MentalPower|Zzzz | Ackis: you can use a US client on the EU servers and vice-versa |
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| 08:41.25 | MentalPower|Zzzz | but only the EU client will accept language packs |
| 08:41.30 | Arrowmaster | thats weird i know you could download an installer of everything including the latest patch at one point, dont remember what language it was for though |
| 08:41.41 | Arrowmaster | MentalPower|Zzzz: thats actually wrong |
| 08:41.51 | Ackis | meh created trial account, not too worried |
| 08:42.04 | MentalPower|Zzzz | and as Arrowmaster pointed out, you can't patch a US client with a EU patch or vice-versa |
| 08:42.10 | MentalPower|Zzzz | Arrowmaster: oh? |
| 08:42.22 | Arrowmaster | MentalPower|Zzzz: US client accepts them too, its just complicated to patch |
| 08:42.51 | MentalPower|Zzzz | ah, fair nuf |
| 08:43.37 | Arrowmaster | i had 'English (US)' and 'English (GB)' listed in my US launcher |
| 08:43.45 | MentalPower|Zzzz | nice |
| 08:43.49 | MentalPower|Zzzz | anyways, gnight |
| 08:43.51 | MentalPower|Zzzz | poofs |
| 08:44.03 | Arrowmaster | actually im not sure which it was since that was when i accidently converted my install to 2.0 EU |
| 08:44.29 | Arrowmaster | then converted it back |
| 08:45.11 | Arrowmaster | but afaik theres 0 difference between US and EU accept for the patchers that look for the installed locales in the data dir |
| 08:46.27 | CIA-39 | 03orionshock * r68891 10GuildCraft/ (BTS-Mini.lua ChoicesUI.lua): GuildCraft: Change mini BTS to not throw errors on "UNKNOWN" that comes from random shit that triggers the "trade_skill_show" event |
| 08:50.42 | Ackis | hmm i don't see any localizations on this launcher |
| 08:53.08 | Arrowmaster | you have to have more than 1 language pack installed |
| 08:53.37 | Orionshock | Ackis: dude, you can't download the enGB client and expect to get the lang packs |
| 08:53.38 | Arrowmaster | you can download the EU ones from the eu site, after you install each one it will revert your install back to 2.0 |
| 08:53.44 | Orionshock | u got to download the frFR one |
| 08:54.39 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster what i did was download and patch the EU client all the way to the current one, then just copied over the lang file and logged in just fine |
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| 08:55.33 | Arrowmaster | when i was messing with it i installed all the EU language packs |
| 08:55.49 | Ackis | right now in the data directory I see a enGB/enUS |
| 08:56.02 | Orionshock | Ackis: go download the fr cleint |
| 08:56.12 | Arrowmaster | but i didnt have a 2.0 to 2.3.* EU patch |
| 08:56.27 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: you should only have enGB not enUS |
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| 08:56.49 | Ackis | manually copied the enUS over... but that's the magic language files correct? |
| 08:56.55 | Arrowmaster | dont |
| 08:57.01 | Arrowmaster | you wont be able to pach |
| 08:57.01 | Arrowmaster | patch |
| 08:57.23 | Arrowmaster | but yeah thats the files |
| 08:57.35 | Arrowmaster | what version is the client right now? |
| 08:58.03 | Ackis | 2.4 |
| 08:58.15 | Arrowmaster | did you download it as 2.4? |
| 08:58.25 | Ackis | yes |
| 08:58.43 | Arrowmaster | youll probably need to get a 2.0 to 2.4 patch |
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| 08:59.05 | Arrowmaster | when you install the language packs theyll probably revert you to 2.0 |
| 08:59.14 | Ackis | ahh |
| 08:59.29 | Arrowmaster | you need to get the downloaders from the EU site |
| 09:00.14 | Arrowmaster | once it reverts you though, you should automaticly start downloading the 2.0 to 2.4 patch when wow detects it needs an update |
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| 09:01.21 | Ackis | are we talking about my enUS client or the frFR client? |
| 09:03.56 | Arrowmaster | you downloaded and installed enGB didnt you? |
| 09:04.16 | Ackis | I've dled the frFR and enGB |
| 09:04.23 | Ackis | i have 4 wow's on my pc now lol |
| 09:04.28 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:04.35 | Arrowmaster | you only need 1 EU one |
| 09:04.50 | Grum | yeah |
| 09:04.57 | Grum | EU allows you to have multiple locales in 1 client |
| 09:05.06 | Ackis | i'm doing the streaming version |
| 09:05.17 | Grum | err? that is the trial right? |
| 09:05.30 | Ackis | you can get full/streaming on the trial |
| 09:05.42 | Ackis | I didn't want to dl 4 gigs, so streaming does it as you go to new zones |
| 09:05.43 | Arrowmaster | and the EU patches contain the locale data for all the EU languages |
| 09:06.10 | Grum | Ackis: how much loading is it per zone? |
| 09:06.28 | Ackis | about 2 minutes for starting zone |
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| 09:07.32 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster i don't think so, when i got the EU-frFR client, it only had the fr stuff in it |
| 09:07.45 | Arrowmaster | i said patches |
| 09:07.48 | Arrowmaster | not client |
| 09:07.59 | Grum | Ackis: 2 minutes? hmmz that is not bad |
| 09:08.03 | Grum | how is it in instances? |
| 09:08.08 | Ackis | haven't tried an instance |
| 09:08.11 | Ackis | and don't plan on it |
| 09:08.50 | Grum | stuff like BT is *massive* |
| 09:09.47 | Grum | or worse, Sunwell |
| 09:11.25 | Arrowmaster | luckly a lot of the sunwell stuff is shared with outside |
| 09:14.30 | CIA-39 | 03wang * r68892 10Enhancer/locale/zhCN.lua: |
| 09:14.30 | CIA-39 | Enhancer: |
| 09:14.30 | CIA-39 | - zhCN fixed |
| 09:15.48 | phyber | if a mod creates a module for itself like: local mod = EPGP:NewModule("EPGP_Backend", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceHook-2.1") |
| 09:16.01 | phyber | is there a way from outside that file for me to get to EPGP_Backend to use its functions? |
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| 09:16.38 | Lywellyn | erm...prat question! Anyone available to field it? |
| 09:17.00 | charon | phyber: :GetModule() iirc |
| 09:17.06 | Orionshock | phyber: ^^ |
| 09:17.12 | phyber | charon: ahh, nice. |
| 09:17.52 | Orionshock | could always manually castrate the module, delete the table references in the core addon and just keep a local... |
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| 09:18.20 | Zeksie | cleared babble-spell from statlogic/ratingbuster locally. should i pm author with diffs or commit it. what's the normal method? |
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| 09:18.39 | Orionshock | PM the author, give it a week then do it anyways |
| 09:18.45 | Zeksie | righto |
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| 09:21.13 | Xinhuan | whitetooth's stance is that |
| 09:21.25 | Xinhuan | anyone may commit to RB/Statlogic to fix stuff up |
| 09:21.28 | Xinhuan | as he's often away |
| 09:21.41 | Xinhuan | i'll get the thread where he said so, hold on |
| 09:22.00 | Arrowmaster | oh wtf |
| 09:22.01 | Zeksie | ok |
| 09:22.15 | Arrowmaster | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/Cartographer?cs=68238 |
| 09:22.39 | Arrowmaster | who is that and why the fuck would he change that? was there something wrong with it? |
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| 09:23.04 | Xan3 | why assessment are discontinued? |
| 09:23.19 | Grum | wtf |
| 09:23.24 | Grum | that is an odd change Arrowmaster |
| 09:23.49 | Xan3 | ?? |
| 09:23.53 | Arrowmaster | he basicly changed the fucking name back |
| 09:24.07 | Grum | yes O.o |
| 09:24.16 | Grum | did you see the if ? |
| 09:24.32 | Arrowmaster | im going to fucking revert it even if i have no clue if there was a problem with it |
| 09:24.33 | Grum | if zoneText == BZL["Tempest Keep"] then zoneText = BZL["Tempest Keep"] end >< |
| 09:24.44 | Xinhuan | Zeksie |
| 09:24.45 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5082.msg149553#msg149553 |
| 09:24.50 | Xan3 | the new name are? |
| 09:24.50 | Grum | if you fail that hard making a change (at *LEAST* check the logic) |
| 09:24.59 | Xinhuan | refer to 3 posts up from that post too Zeksie |
| 09:25.21 | Zeksie | k. thx |
| 09:25.30 | Xinhuan | that was a while ago though |
| 09:25.32 | Xinhuan | like 6 months |
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| 09:26.31 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68893 10WhoDrop/ (7 files): |
| 09:26.31 | CIA-39 | WhoDrop |
| 09:26.31 | CIA-39 | - fixed embeds |
| 09:26.31 | CIA-39 | - removed babble tradeskill |
| 09:26.32 | CIA-39 | - converted babble libs to use 3.0 versions |
| 09:26.48 | Grum | Arrowmaster: i'm not sure what is used to check but afaik GetZoneText() returns the same >< |
| 09:27.02 | Lywellyn | Can anyone tell me what to do with my prat to make item links *not* grey in chat channels? |
| 09:27.03 | Arrowmaster | Grum: huh? |
| 09:27.23 | Grum | well, afaik you toss GetRealZoneText() into Babble-Zone |
| 09:27.31 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 09:27.35 | Grum | but maybe Babble-Zone changed and now returns the other zone |
| 09:27.41 | Arrowmaster | because inside the eye it actually is called tempest keep |
| 09:27.49 | Arrowmaster | no it wont |
| 09:27.49 | Xinhuan | i honestly think StatLogicLib is my last "addon" that uses Babble-Spell |
| 09:27.55 | Xinhuan | so if that can be removed, yay for me |
| 09:27.58 | Grum | Arrowmaster: not sure, but i'm quite sure it wasnt i think |
| 09:28.23 | Xinhuan | there's just no alternative to ratingbuster at the moment |
| 09:28.50 | Zeksie | i'll commit it. what's the worst that can happen ^^ |
| 09:29.25 | Orionshock | svn dies? |
| 09:29.32 | Xinhuan | the worst that can happen is that you break about 10 addons that use statlogiclib ;p |
| 09:29.42 | Zeksie | ye! |
| 09:30.01 | Zeksie | fingers on revert buttons.... ready... go! |
| 09:30.25 | Arrowmaster | Grum: ok i doubt hes a translator, since he broke all the translations doing that! |
| 09:30.32 | Grum | LOL |
| 09:30.34 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r68894 10RatingBuster/ (. RatingBuster.lua RatingBuster.toc embeds.xml): RatingBuster: Removed Babble-Spell. |
| 09:30.37 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r68895 10StatLogicLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): StatLogicLib: Removed Babble-Spell. |
| 09:30.52 | Grum | carto uses Babble-Zone-3.0 right? |
| 09:30.56 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 09:31.13 | Orionshock | worse that can happen is that all those addons that depend on it still download and load babble b/c u didn't update externals |
| 09:31.23 | Xinhuan | such as mine |
| 09:31.29 | Orionshock | lol |
| 09:31.32 | Grum | afaik the zone is 'Tempest Keep' if you are at the islands |
| 09:31.35 | Zeksie | i updated externals :) |
| 09:31.42 | Grum | but its 'The Eye' if you are inside TK |
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| 09:31.49 | Xinhuan | uh the zone is "Netherstorm" |
| 09:31.51 | Ackis | gives up on locales |
| 09:31.56 | Xinhuan | because you should be using GetRealZoneText() ? |
| 09:31.57 | Ackis | frickin patching doesn't work bleh |
| 09:32.07 | Arrowmaster | Grum: no inside the instance its "Tempest Keep" |
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| 09:32.17 | Arrowmaster | or atleast it was |
| 09:32.27 | VonhintenHOME` | it is |
| 09:32.30 | Grum | humz the sub-zone is The Eye then? |
| 09:32.38 | Grum | then the change might be legit |
| 09:32.43 | Grum | but it depends what is used |
| 09:32.49 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:33.00 | Arrowmaster | The Eye is not a name used ingame |
| 09:33.17 | Xan3 | recount or recount2, what is the last? |
| 09:33.30 | Grum | recount works |
| 09:33.40 | VonhintenHOME` | ' |
| 09:33.46 | Xan3 | recount2 are beta? |
| 09:33.50 | VonhintenHOME` | LFM interface refers to it as Tempest Keep too |
| 09:33.58 | Grum | Arrowmaster: but then the change is legit |
| 09:34.02 | Grum | just a bit crude |
| 09:34.03 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 09:34.10 | Xinhuan | last night, i had 2 guildies's wow hardlock when they tried to view "spell details" of who player X healed |
| 09:34.13 | Xinhuan | in Recount |
| 09:34.28 | ncd|Aileen | mh, same problem here with Recount :/ |
| 09:35.26 | Grum | why not? you just say 'The Eye' is nowhere used anywhere ingame |
| 09:35.42 | Arrowmaster | because you cant have two "Tempest Keeps" |
| 09:36.11 | Arrowmaster | the collection of instances needs a name and the instance needs a name |
| 09:36.31 | Grum | ah, the collection is also tempest keep |
| 09:36.40 | Grum | would have been nice if the author had commented that in the code >< |
| 09:37.01 | Grum | those odd-ball 'fiddles' in the code beg for comments :) |
| 09:37.03 | Arrowmaster | actually i think 'The Eye' is used ingame by some quest text and might have been used by the old error message if you werent keyed |
| 09:37.43 | Grum | yeah makes sense |
| 09:37.50 | VonhintenHOME` | Where's the fun in that |
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| 09:40.06 | CIA-39 | 03arrowmaster * r68896 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:40.06 | CIA-39 | Cartographer: |
| 09:40.06 | CIA-39 | -reverted commit 68238 by isler that removed the renaming of the "Tempest Keep" instance to "The Eye" |
| 09:40.06 | CIA-39 | -I don't know what possessed you to make that change but DON'T do it again, if there is an issue with this particular part then report it on the forums or jira |
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| 09:41.16 | VonhintenHOME` | fifty dkp minus |
| 09:41.17 | starlon | That'll teach him |
| 09:42.03 | Arrowmaster | OMG |
| 09:42.06 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 09:42.49 | Arrowmaster | this guy changed all of Cartographer1 too |
| 09:42.56 | Arrowmaster | and get this, he is a fucking translator |
| 09:43.08 | Grum | LOL |
| 09:43.09 | Arrowmaster | even though he broke all the translations |
| 09:43.12 | Grum | L O L |
| 09:43.30 | Grum | ~fail isler |
| 09:43.31 | purl | isler, you Fail! |
| 09:43.40 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68897 10AckisRecipeList/: |
| 09:43.40 | CIA-39 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 09:43.40 | CIA-39 | - Forgot to update embeds |
| 09:44.15 | Orionshock | anyone know if internode is a T2 provider? |
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| 09:45.30 | Grum | whoha Orionshock that was random :D |
| 09:45.36 | Orionshock | sorry... |
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| 09:46.11 | Orionshock | very pointed question to a select audience that knows what im talking about... -.- |
| 09:46.26 | Stanzilla | http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/library/BALLMER_business.jpg < lol |
| 09:46.45 | Grum | well i can guess the context |
| 09:46.47 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r68898 10ZOMGBuffs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:46.47 | CIA-39 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 09:46.47 | CIA-39 | - Will no longer occasionally change blessings thinking you have changed talents when you have just zoned. |
| 09:46.47 | CIA-39 | - Throttle talent re-checks to 1 second to help with talent point spending spam from Talented. |
| 09:46.47 | CIA-39 | - Fix UnitName() error during a roster update in raid popup. |
| 09:47.42 | Grum | why not call em Orionshock ? ;D |
| 09:47.58 | Orionshock | they prolly won't tell me |
| 09:48.14 | Grum | that would be strange |
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| 09:55.04 | Lywellyn | More activity means my question might get answered: Anyone versed in prat's options that might be ablet o help me out? |
| 09:55.05 | VonhintenHOME` | So, is reading the blizzard lua code a good idea to learn best patterns and practices? generally |
| 09:56.12 | Zeksie | VonhintenHOME`.... have you SEEN their code??? |
| 09:56.21 | VonhintenHOME` | no |
| 09:56.54 | Zeksie | it makes me cringe.. |
| 09:57.07 | VonhintenHOME` | intern level crap? |
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| 09:57.48 | Zeksie | yeah, sometimes it looks the kinda code you produce after writing your Hello World mod.. |
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| 09:58.17 | CIA-39 | 03arrowmaster * r68899 10Cartographer1/ (21 files in 16 dirs): |
| 09:58.17 | CIA-39 | Cartographer1: |
| 09:58.17 | CIA-39 | -reverted all commits starting from 68061 and later by isler.... DON'T DO THAT!!! |
| 09:58.17 | CIA-39 | -this addon is mostly dead, don't bump the TOC or make other stupid changes unless you'r going to fix everything including the new issues with 2.4 |
| 09:58.43 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 09:58.46 | Ackis | lol |
| 09:58.49 | VonhintenHOME` | crack that whip |
| 09:58.52 | Ackis | poor cartographer |
| 09:59.13 | Arrowmaster | he changed a bunch of shit around in the instance notes..... |
| 09:59.18 | VonhintenHOME` | Hit em with a booterang |
| 09:59.33 | Kurax | Who? |
| 09:59.35 | Arrowmaster | TOO BAD THE INSTANCEMAPS DONT WORK IN THE FIRST PLACE |
| 09:59.40 | Arrowmaster | .......... |
| 09:59.45 | Kurax | Isler? |
| 09:59.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 09:59.57 | Kurax | Oh not again |
| 10:01.12 | Arrowmaster | Cartographer1's instancemap data probably hasnt been regened since at the latest 2.2, i dont know how he came up with all those changes for the instancenotes |
| 10:02.18 | Kurax | Yeah I notified him before do not touch Carto1, he said: Why not? I'm using it |
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| 10:03.09 | Arrowmaster | i have a solution to that problem..... svn del http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Cartographer1 |
| 10:03.12 | VonhintenHOME` | Shouldn't you just lock the branch? |
| 10:03.33 | Kurax | Better remove Carto1 from trunk |
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| 10:03.58 | Arrowmaster | oh this is the guy that made the change to oRA2's defaults that ammo reverted as soon as i told him |
| 10:04.19 | [eu]gunder | way to go Isler :/ |
| 10:04.40 | VonhintenHOME` | idiots shouldn't have svn prics |
| 10:04.42 | VonhintenHOME` | privs |
| 10:05.36 | Arrowmaster | then we would have to manually make all the changes to zhTW and zhCN as the translators fight over the translations |
| 10:06.07 | VonhintenHOME` | Can't you lock all buy localization folders? |
| 10:06.12 | VonhintenHOME` | buy=but |
| 10:06.30 | Arrowmaster | i swear they make probably 3x as many changes as the other translators |
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| 10:06.44 | Kurax | haha |
| 10:06.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah but it would require a lot of svn wide changes |
| 10:06.58 | digmouse | I think those happened cuz of some translators' personal idea, such as "I dont like rock" |
| 10:07.02 | starlon | How do you get translators to work on your addon? |
| 10:07.12 | starlon | They just pick it up as they please? |
| 10:07.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
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| 10:07.17 | Kurax | Yup |
| 10:07.52 | Orionshock | starlon: or you can ask them... |
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| 10:08.07 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 10:08.08 | Arrowmaster | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/~author=isler/WowAce |
| 10:08.13 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68900 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/ (. Cartographer_nnTrainers.toc embeds.xml nnTrainers.lua): |
| 10:08.13 | CIA-39 | Cartographer_nnTrainers: |
| 10:08.13 | CIA-39 | - Removed BTS |
| 10:08.13 | CIA-39 | - Converted Babble Class to 3.0 |
| 10:08.16 | Arrowmaster | all of his commits fit on a single page |
| 10:08.22 | Kurax | Most common answer would be: I'm using it |
| 10:08.26 | Arrowmaster | guess how many of those were probably unwanted! |
| 10:08.41 | Ackis | is doing unwanted commits |
| 10:08.44 | Ackis | kekekek |
| 10:09.20 | Ackis | was joking btw |
| 10:09.48 | Kurax | smashes Ackis |
| 10:10.08 | Kurax | Well |
| 10:10.36 | Dranor | 61562 by isler on 15 February 2008, 22:45:31 -0800 (54 days ago) oRA2: |
| 10:10.36 | Dranor | - zhCN update |
| 10:10.36 | Dranor | - Now "CoolDown Monitor" is hidden in the default setting, I think it's better for most players. |
| 10:10.40 | Dranor | heh |
| 10:10.49 | Kurax | My AtlasLoot translations are stating clearly "This file is auto-generated by a tool, any manually change might be overwritten." |
| 10:10.59 | Kurax | And he still changing it, what could I say |
| 10:11.02 | Arrowmaster | 2 commits adding addons to cosmos feature frame thingy |
| 10:11.31 | haste | Kurax: oh trust me, most translaters don't read the comments on top of the files |
| 10:11.35 | Fix[EJ] | Dranor: to be fair, half of the posts I've seen on our UI forums is "what the hell is this cooldown text at the top/middle/left of my screen" |
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| 10:11.57 | Dranor | it's not ok for me, i have a lot of retards telling me to use ankh on my shaman even though i have it on cooldown |
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| 10:12.08 | Fix[EJ] | heh |
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| 10:12.38 | Arrowmaster | changing longtime defaults is still bad though, since then it would be hidden for everybody until they show it |
| 10:12.40 | digmouse | Translators should only do what they ought to, core fix? Leave it to the authors |
| 10:13.03 | digmouse | or tell him, or you'll be offending him |
| 10:14.09 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68901 10Cartographer1/: .trunk: Cartographer1: del, use mapster |
| 10:14.18 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: win! |
| 10:14.29 | Kurax | lol |
| 10:14.33 | digmouse | lol |
| 10:14.35 | Arrowmaster | unneeded .trunk: though |
| 10:14.51 | Funkeh` | care.com |
| 10:14.55 | digmouse | indeed |
| 10:15.34 | Ackis | wasn't cart1 and ace version of cart2? |
| 10:15.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 10:15.48 | Arrowmaster | the original ace2 version |
| 10:16.03 | Ackis | so as cart2 was updated i'm assuming cart1 wasn't? |
| 10:16.12 | Arrowmaster | although i doubt many people know the difference since cartographer still says "Ace2" on all the rest of the ui sites |
| 10:16.20 | digmouse | and ckk turns it to rock and that's cart2 we're using |
| 10:16.47 | Arrowmaster | some people didnt like cart2 using rock so they brought back the ace2 version as cart1 |
| 10:16.52 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68902 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/: |
| 10:16.52 | CIA-39 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
| 10:16.52 | CIA-39 | - Remove unneeded libs in embeds |
| 10:17.11 | digmouse | right "I dont like rock", personal ideas |
| 10:17.14 | Kurax | Isler is one of them |
| 10:17.22 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:17.32 | Ackis | i'm just trying to figure out why cart2 = stay, cart1 = go :P just curious really |
| 10:17.39 | digmouse | and we have a "incredibly unstable" cart3 now |
| 10:17.54 | Arrowmaster | when cart3 is stable we should delete cart2 |
| 10:18.07 | VonhintenHOME` | What's wrong with rock? |
| 10:18.07 | Dranor | at once i'd say |
| 10:18.30 | Kurax | Isler: I dont like Rock shit, stupid config window and too many professional things, it's for geek not for players |
| 10:18.38 | Arrowmaster | hell i want to delete cart_mining, cart_herb, cart_fishing, cart_treasure, cart_data and all that crap right now with a note of 'use gathermate' |
| 10:18.38 | Kurax | Isler said |
| 10:18.40 | VonhintenHOME` | lolwut? |
| 10:19.01 | Ackis | can you delete babble tradeskill? :P |
| 10:19.03 | Dranor | imho everything arround rock its politics |
| 10:19.11 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: 2.2? |
| 10:19.15 | Ackis | yes |
| 10:19.18 | Arrowmaster | nah leave it |
| 10:19.23 | Arrowmaster | until all of 2.2 goes |
| 10:19.37 | VonhintenHOME` | The day I upgraded my nods and found the Addon Preferences window was a great day |
| 10:19.41 | VonhintenHOME` | no more menu configs |
| 10:19.44 | digmouse | to be honest, i dont quite care whether it's rock, ace2, ace3 or sth. else, but existance senses |
| 10:19.48 | Ackis | i think there's only 2 mods right now that use it, i've converted the rest/had the author do it :D |
| 10:19.49 | VonhintenHOME` | nods=mods |
| 10:19.56 | icemoon | del babble spell - - |
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| 10:20.28 | digmouse | del babble spll |
| 10:20.32 | digmouse | *spell |
| 10:20.39 | Orionshock | wts spellchecker |
| 10:20.47 | Arrowmaster | nah its fine for now |
| 10:20.48 | Arrowmaster | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 10:20.48 | Ackis | I'm on a personal crusade against babbletradeskill-2.2 sicne i made it the monster it is today |
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| 10:20.54 | Arrowmaster | commits to it slowed down |
| 10:21.18 | Arrowmaster | unless somebody secretly locked it |
| 10:21.25 | Kurax | No |
| 10:21.26 | digmouse | or there will still be Asian or other translators working on it, that's really a waste |
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| 10:21.48 | Arrowmaster | 9 days without a commit! nobodys working on it that much |
| 10:21.53 | Kurax | But flame TOC bumpers who are translators |
| 10:22.03 | digmouse | so delete it? |
| 10:22.12 | Kurax | Hmm, quite rhyme |
| 10:22.16 | Arrowmaster | some stuff still isnt converted |
| 10:22.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Get rid of it imo.. if its totally useless, can it |
| 10:22.37 | Arrowmaster | and it deffently needs tagged first |
| 10:22.38 | Orionshock | Ackis: u do know there are some translations that BTS is still needed for. |
| 10:22.40 | Lemming2K | i just reverted a change someone committed. So my working copy is the version i want but i can't commit because he says its up to date |
| 10:22.54 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: lies! |
| 10:22.57 | digmouse | then lock it |
| 10:22.58 | Orionshock | Lemming2K: do a SVN update, then commit |
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| 10:23.09 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster look at the "Mini-BTS.lua" in guild craft |
| 10:23.11 | Kurax | Lemming2K: Update first |
| 10:23.22 | Ackis | Orionshock: Maybe they are, but mods that are currently using BTS aren't needing those :P (i've looked at the code on all of them) |
| 10:23.22 | Orionshock | i can't get those "Exact" translations in game. |
| 10:23.49 | Ackis | example? |
| 10:23.50 | Arrowmaster | yes you can |
| 10:24.16 | Orionshock | ie the trade skill name in general |
| 10:24.22 | Orionshock | ie "Leatherworking" |
| 10:24.27 | Ackis | wrong my friend |
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| 10:24.35 | Kurax | Use GetSpellInfo! |
| 10:24.36 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3908 |
| 10:24.36 | Ackis | http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=2108 |
| 10:24.41 | Orionshock | the game will give me "Leather working (Artisan)" ect. |
| 10:24.47 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt |
| 10:24.58 | Arrowmaster | that should be the rank |
| 10:25.00 | Ackis | 2108 gives you leatherworking, I converted my mod to use them |
| 10:25.16 | Orionshock | ... |
| 10:25.21 | Orionshock | hum... |
| 10:25.33 | Arrowmaster | use the Apprentice versions of all of them then |
| 10:25.36 | Arrowmaster | if that works |
| 10:25.41 | Orionshock | ... |
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| 10:26.06 | Arrowmaster | what dont expect me to login to test |
| 10:26.09 | Orionshock | that sorta dosn't help, i'd have to use table name magic to make it work.. |
| 10:26.27 | Arrowmaster | you do? |
| 10:26.55 | Orionshock | currently i use GetTradeSkillLine() to get the skill name for an open tradeskill |
| 10:27.00 | Orionshock | that returns a localized name |
| 10:27.10 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 10:27.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah just make 1 table with the contents created by GetSpellInfo() output |
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| 10:27.57 | Orionshock | ... ya.. |
| 10:28.13 | Bogopimp | using ace3 do I need to define my UI Dialog bits (the buttons and frames and whatnot) in the LUA file as opposed to the XML file (like I might normally do) ? My wow is complaining that im trying to call functions from my .xml file when I use the conventional means (i.e. randomFunction() encapsulated by <Scripts> and <OnClick>) |
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| 10:28.42 | Arrowmaster | Bogopimp: xml is not conventional |
| 10:28.54 | Arrowmaster | its confusing |
| 10:29.40 | Bogopimp | its only confusing because all the tutorials out there are crap :) |
| 10:29.52 | Kurax | You define functions in xml? |
| 10:30.05 | Bogopimp | no, i define my interface elements in xml |
| 10:30.09 | Arrowmaster | and theres no good resource for all the properties |
| 10:30.20 | VonhintenHOME` | No schema? |
| 10:30.24 | Arrowmaster | Kurax: you can inside <Script> blocks |
| 10:30.52 | Bogopimp | I was just calling the functions inside the script blocks, and defining what they do inside the lua file |
| 10:31.09 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt be any issues with that |
| 10:31.14 | Kurax | Arrowmaster: But dont you need CDATA tag for that or how xml parsers can parse that |
| 10:31.28 | Bogopimp | which is what im still trying to do, but since i converted it to ace it hasnt been working right = i get lua errors about not being able to find the functions |
| 10:31.30 | Kurax | Hmm |
| 10:31.36 | Arrowmaster | nothing needs CDATA with wow xml |
| 10:31.37 | Kurax | nvm, I get it |
| 10:32.01 | Arrowmaster | Bogopimp: are you loading the lua file from the xml file? |
| 10:32.08 | Bogopimp | yeah |
| 10:32.20 | Arrowmaster | try loading it from the toc before the xml file |
| 10:32.27 | Bogopimp | alright |
| 10:32.42 | Bogopimp | oh, im doing that already too :) |
| 10:32.48 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:32.59 | Arrowmaster | are the functions all global? |
| 10:33.12 | Bogopimp | im not sure... |
| 10:33.15 | Bogopimp | gimme a few mins |
| 10:33.19 | Bogopimp | im not so keen on my lua |
| 10:33.33 | Grum | Bogopimp: anything you can do in xml you can do in lua nowadays (or at least i think you can) |
| 10:33.56 | Bogopimp | yeah, but since the main beginner tutorials focus on the way ive done it then this is how im going to |
| 10:33.58 | Ackis | http://ace.pastey.net/85451 -> better way to do line 5? |
| 10:34.02 | Arrowmaster | except creating virutal frames |
| 10:34.03 | Kurax | Except defining a virtual frame =p |
| 10:34.05 | Bogopimp | my mod isnt really going to be very wow based |
| 10:34.26 | Bogopimp | the majority of the hard work will be done in java, but I need the mod to use an ace library |
| 10:34.35 | Arrowmaster | java? |
| 10:34.38 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 10:34.45 | Kurax | rofl |
| 10:34.54 | Bogopimp | the mod on outputs a file |
| 10:35.01 | Bogopimp | the java does all the work i need it to on the file |
| 10:35.04 | Bogopimp | *only |
| 10:35.07 | Kurax | I get it |
| 10:35.12 | CIA-39 | 03aviana * r68903 10Numen/ (Numen.lua Numen.toc NumenData.lua embeds.xml): |
| 10:35.12 | CIA-39 | Numen: |
| 10:35.12 | CIA-39 | - I said TEST your changes and obviously a lot of spells are not in the bar anymore. Reverted back to version before that. |
| 10:35.37 | Kurax | It's a profiler or something close to that |
| 10:35.59 | VonhintenHOME` | Man, whips cracking all over the damn place today... |
| 10:36.09 | Bogopimp | its way more than anything like that :P |
| 10:36.25 | Bogopimp | although the functions I have to create it are a bit limited |
| 10:36.45 | Bogopimp | hmm |
| 10:36.58 | Kurax | But if you can't find functions and all your scripts are no errors, then it probably the loading order problems |
| 10:37.03 | Bogopimp | i dont know if my functions are global, they are defined "function thisorthat() BLAH end" |
| 10:37.13 | Arrowmaster | should be global |
| 10:37.19 | Bogopimp | global function ? |
| 10:37.24 | Bogopimp | or just global ? |
| 10:37.30 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r68904 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.toc locales/zhTW.lua): |
| 10:37.30 | CIA-39 | WitchHunt: |
| 10:37.30 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 10:37.30 | CIA-39 | - Added Notes for zhCN & zhTW localization. |
| 10:37.30 | Arrowmaster | no i mean that sounds right |
| 10:37.32 | Kurax | Anything without local keyword is global |
| 10:37.47 | Bogopimp | ok |
| 10:38.16 | Dranor | i never understood why there are a gazillion of translators for the asian locales |
| 10:38.34 | Kurax | I'm one of them |
| 10:38.45 | Kurax | Burn me! |
| 10:38.58 | Arrowmaster | because theres not oen translator that wants to use every mod and translate them all |
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| 10:39.55 | CIA-39 | 03aviana * r68905 10Numen/: |
| 10:39.55 | CIA-39 | Numen: |
| 10:39.55 | CIA-39 | - Test your changes. Seriously. |
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| 10:40.17 | Kurax | Maybe because Asian got lots of players |
| 10:40.56 | Arrowmaster | half the wow pop |
| 10:41.00 | Dranor | it's not about burning asian translators, there are some of them that commit after someone changes a comma, even if it's not needed |
| 10:41.12 | Kurax | Exactly |
| 10:41.28 | Kurax | We've talking about this too, about comma commits |
| 10:41.37 | Kurax | talked* |
| 10:41.46 | Bogopimp | there are alot of asian players, and id bet alot of them speak english |
| 10:41.48 | Arrowmaster | how about those commits lacking commas |
| 10:42.38 | Kurax | Bogopimp: Nope, only a few |
| 10:43.50 | digmouse | comma-only commits |
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| 10:44.47 | Kurax | We are talking about the offical localized version of WoW like zhCN/zhTW/koKR all over the Asia, those players do not speaking English |
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| 10:49.52 | Dranor | well, here in Spain there's a lot of ppl that still play with the english client and don't speak english |
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| 10:50.12 | Bogopimp | spains possibly a bit differant |
| 10:50.21 | Bogopimp | theres more need to know english there |
| 10:50.32 | Bogopimp | as we go over all the time and shout at the :) |
| 10:50.35 | Bogopimp | *them |
| 10:50.40 | Dranor | but er.... how to explain... wow's spanish localization sounds so silly |
| 10:50.47 | digmouse | but in Asia, thing are different |
| 10:51.10 | digmouse | *things |
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| 10:53.49 | Kurax | Asian languages are very different from English, no commons on syntax or usage at all |
| 10:55.11 | VonhintenHOME` | localization is a pain in the ass |
| 10:55.22 | Kurax | And now lets welcome Russians! |
| 10:55.26 | Bogopimp | i think one of my core problems seems to be the declaration for an ace mod that I got from the ace3 tutorials... "local uniquename = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("uniquename", "AceConsole-3.0")" creates a "addon "uniquename" already exists" error |
| 10:55.55 | Bogopimp | my onenable function works fine |
| 10:55.58 | Kurax | You addon varibles better not be local |
| 10:56.13 | Kurax | Since you may use it everywhere |
| 10:56.30 | Bogopimp | hmm |
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| 10:56.45 | Kurax | And Ace3 itself probably will reference it too |
| 10:57.28 | VonhintenHOME` | where are these tutorials? |
| 10:57.37 | Bogopimp | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon |
| 10:57.40 | Bogopimp | is what i was using |
| 10:57.53 | VonhintenHOME` | ace3 isn't even mentioned on the main page |
| 10:57.56 | Bogopimp | it was local but the tutorial didn't tell me to, i must have added it as some point for some reason |
| 10:58.04 | Snago | Bogopimp: It's an incomplete rewrite of the Ace2 tutorial |
| 10:58.13 | Snago | Not really 100% ready to use |
| 10:58.22 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68906 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/ (. SkillsPlusFu.lua embeds.xml): |
| 10:58.22 | CIA-39 | FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
| 10:58.22 | CIA-39 | - Converted all Babble Spell references to use SpellIDs instead. |
| 10:58.32 | Bogopimp | could do with that being written at the top of the page really :S |
| 10:58.40 | Bogopimp | alla wiki style |
| 10:58.45 | Snago | Yeah, probably :) |
| 10:58.59 | Bogopimp | well ive started now |
| 10:59.10 | Bogopimp | so is ace3 only beta ? |
| 10:59.18 | Bogopimp | i dont really follow addons too much |
| 10:59.19 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r68907 10Mendeleev/locales/ (deDE.lua koKR.lua zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): Mendeleev: fixed local files |
| 10:59.27 | Kurax | Hmm, you could say that |
| 10:59.55 | Kurax | No one knows when its final lol |
| 10:59.59 | digmouse | locale not local |
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| 11:00.19 | Bogopimp | you mean its updated about 5 times a minute like omen ? :) |
| 11:00.27 | Kurax | No |
| 11:00.38 | Kurax | But it still under developing |
| 11:00.46 | Bogopimp | ah ok |
| 11:01.04 | Bogopimp | ill try and make this ace2 then :< |
| 11:01.18 | Arrowmaster | its mostly stable |
| 11:01.25 | Kurax | Ace3 is fine, and Ace2 will obsolete soon |
| 11:01.41 | Bogopimp | i only really need the librangecheck part |
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| 11:01.54 | Arrowmaster | you dont need ace for that |
| 11:01.59 | SNiLD | is gone |
| 11:02.17 | Bogopimp | oh. |
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| 11:02.34 | Kurax | LibStub can create libs for you if you dont need Ace functions |
| 11:02.38 | Bogopimp | just LibStub("LibRangeCheck-2.0") |
| 11:02.41 | Bogopimp | ? |
| 11:03.00 | Kurax | Yeah |
| 11:03.24 | Bogopimp | right :( |
| 11:04.15 | Bogopimp | does that mean i literally only need the libstub.lua part of my embeds.xml ? |
| 11:04.25 | Bogopimp | or does libstub reference other sections ? |
| 11:04.37 | Kurax | You dont even have to put it in embeds.xml |
| 11:04.43 | Arrowmaster | you only need libstub and librangecheck-2.0 |
| 11:05.44 | Kurax | LibStub is not a library, and no need to be an external, just include a copy in your project |
| 11:05.57 | Arrowmaster | for addons you can external it |
| 11:06.23 | Kurax | It's only 2k and barely change |
| 11:06.43 | ncd|Aileen | mh, is there a proper ace3 tutorial out there? :) |
| 11:07.00 | SNiLD | is gone |
| 11:07.09 | Ackis | ping Funkeh' |
| 11:07.19 | SNiLD | is back |
| 11:09.04 | Snago | ncd|Aileen: I'm working on updating the Ace2 WelcomeHome tutorial to Ace3 |
| 11:09.13 | ncd|Aileen | ah, thanks :) |
| 11:09.15 | Snago | but it's not ready yet |
| 11:09.57 | SNiLD | is gone |
| 11:10.23 | SNiLD | is back |
| 11:11.09 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r68908 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/Localization/zhTW.lua: |
| 11:11.09 | CIA-39 | LibDogTag-Unit-3.0: |
| 11:11.09 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. |
| 11:12.40 | Kurax | This change is just wrong on version processing |
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| 11:13.40 | Arrowmaster | ? |
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| 11:14.17 | SNiLD | is gone |
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| 11:14.42 | CIA-39 | 03kurax * r68909 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/Localization/zhTW.lua: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0: Keep the version processing in line please. |
| 11:14.58 | Arrowmaster | what did he do? |
| 11:15.17 | Ackis | any objection if i convert XRS to use spell IDs? |
| 11:15.20 | Kurax | He just set the version to core without compare it first |
| 11:15.27 | SNiLD | is gone |
| 11:15.32 | Arrowmaster | Kurax: oh |
| 11:15.55 | SNiLD | is back |
| 11:16.20 | Kurax | So a barely update localization file may cause the entire DT3 keeping old |
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| 11:18.43 | Kurax | ck puts $Rev$ and version checking in every file of DT3, so the version is always reflecting the newest one, and translator surely love to break this rule |
| 11:19.10 | Funkeh` | Ackis, pong |
| 11:20.33 | Neko^^ | are there any mirrors for files.wowace.com ? the default site isn't working bad or anything, just curious :p |
| 11:20.49 | Ackis | Funkeh': looks as if you're the last maintainer of XRS, do you mind if I convert it to use spell IDs? |
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| 11:21.04 | Funkeh` | I stopped using that long ago |
| 11:21.08 | Funkeh` | do what you want with it |
| 11:21.09 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 11:21.11 | Ackis | lol |
| 11:24.25 | Snago | Ackis: Make it "oink" on low raid mana :P |
| 11:24.37 | Ackis | roflz |
| 11:24.45 | Snago | By default, no way to turn off.. |
| 11:25.04 | Snago | And if anyone complains tell you Funkeh` said it was OK |
| 11:25.14 | Snago | s/you/them/ |
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| 11:25.25 | Funkeh` | >.> |
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| 11:31.07 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r68910 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/Localization/zhTW.lua: |
| 11:31.07 | CIA-39 | LibDogTag-Unit-3.0 |
| 11:31.07 | CIA-39 | - Fixed typo. XD |
| 11:31.33 | sag_ich_nicht | i bet he broke it again. |
| 11:31.56 | Kurax | I bet he meant it |
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| 11:33.08 | Trell_ | quick question, a) will autobar ever be updated to include pvp elekk in the 'mounts' category and b) can i use a macro in place of the mounts button. I simply wanna use the [flyable] option, so I can have a one button mount on autobar, without taking up a slot on my 'normal' actionbars. |
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| 11:34.57 | Snago | Why would you need mount on autobar? Why not just have a macro with /use [flyable] Flying mount; Land mount? |
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| 11:36.01 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68911 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Track a repair bot! |
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| 11:37.24 | Orionshock | Funkeh`: nice |
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| 11:38.19 | Orionshock | Funkeh`: can u have it also raid target it if your promoted? |
| 11:38.23 | CIA-39 | 03aviana * r68912 10Numen/ (Numen.lua locales/enUS.lua locales/koKR.lua locales/zhCN.lua): |
| 11:38.23 | CIA-39 | Numen: |
| 11:38.23 | CIA-39 | - Removed the UI reload from the special button functions |
| 11:38.39 | Funkeh` | Orionshock, I think I'll draw the line there, thanks |
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| 11:38.46 | Orionshock | :( |
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| 11:40.41 | Bogopimp | so i think i managed to get the libstub thing "working", in that it loads it, but when i try to call the metho din librangecheck, i get the messsage... "attempt to index upvalue 'rc' (a nil value)" - were rc is my "LibStub:NewLibrary("LibRangeCheck-2.0", 1)" - i assume as it doesnt give me an error on load that my module is indeed loading correctly |
| 11:41.27 | Ackis | oh Funkeh, the respawn timer on the Twins is 30 seconds, not 90 |
| 11:41.33 | Orionshock | Bogopimp: it's local rc = LibStub("LibRangeCheck-2.0, true) |
| 11:41.43 | Funkeh` | Ackis, for definate? |
| 11:41.47 | Ackis | yes |
| 11:41.49 | Orionshock | granted by passing "true" as 2nd arg you tell it to not throw errors if it's not there.. |
| 11:42.23 | Ackis | We were doing attempts on it, after a wipe I did the counting in my head, so it may be 28 seconds or 32 seconds depending on brain latency :P |
| 11:42.29 | Bogopimp | it doesnt like that at all |
| 11:42.46 | Bogopimp | bad argument #1 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got boolean) |
| 11:42.47 | Orionshock | try loading RangeCheck-2.0 in the toc as well |
| 11:42.55 | Bogopimp | alright |
| 11:43.11 | Orionshock | libstub dosn't automagically load libs like aceLib did |
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| 11:43.39 | VonhintenHOME` | if you copy and pasted his code, he missed a " after LibRangeCheck-2.0 |
| 11:43.43 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68913 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: respawn = 30sec |
| 11:43.45 | Funkeh` | Ackis, lol, it's usually a round number to be honest. |
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| 11:44.19 | Ackis | lol yah I know, but just wanted to add the caviet that I counted in my head... one onethousand, two onethousand, etc :P |
| 11:44.20 | krka | 0 then? |
| 11:44.41 | krka | more oval than round i guess |
| 11:45.02 | Bogopimp | i didnt copy and paste, but thanks :) |
| 11:46.40 | Bogopimp | unless its changed significantly since wowwiki had its say that shouldnt be true |
| 11:46.47 | Bogopimp | it should be an int or string, not a boolean |
| 11:47.05 | Grum | is the 'hitcap' for melee 99% as well (aka always 1% miss?) |
| 11:47.15 | Grum | like it's supposed to be for casters |
| 11:48.14 | sica | Grum: yep, but for dualwielding classes like rogues you have an offhand-malus |
| 11:48.29 | Grum | yeah like 15% orso |
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| 11:48.45 | Grum | so they need insane hit :) (like 340 orso) |
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| 11:49.31 | Snago | Bogopimp: You're confusing LibStub:GetLibrary and LibStub:NewLibrary |
| 11:49.44 | Bogopimp | im trying to follow tutorials :'( |
| 11:50.11 | Orionshock | throw up your code on pastey, i'll take a look at it for ya |
| 11:50.13 | Bogopimp | i suspect i do in fact want to get a library yeah |
| 11:51.27 | Snago | LibStub:GetLibrary("LibRangeCheck-2.0") is what you want to use or LibStub:GetLibrary("LibRangeCheck-2.0", true) if you don't want it to error if LRC-2.0 don't exist |
| 11:51.43 | Bogopimp | http://pastebin.com/m6cbea608 |
| 11:52.07 | Grum | Snago: i reckon: LibStub("LibRangeCheck-2.0") is the same as :GetLibrary(...) ? |
| 11:52.22 | Snago | Grum: yes |
| 11:52.30 | Bogopimp | i didnt include the xml file in that as there seemed no need |
| 11:53.49 | Grum | Bogopimp: xml files .. mostly used for embeds.xml ;D |
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| 11:54.06 | Bogopimp | yeah, i was told earlier :P |
| 11:54.15 | Bogopimp | im not making much in way of an interface though |
| 11:54.20 | Bogopimp | literally 2 buttons, and some text |
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| 11:54.57 | Grum | easily done with lua indeed |
| 11:54.58 | Kurax | Bogopimp: can you post error message to pastebin as well? |
| 11:55.14 | [Liquidor] | Good morning world |
| 11:55.18 | Bogopimp | yeah, gimme a moment to write them in |
| 11:55.25 | Industrial | embeds.xml .. I dont understand the concept |
| 11:55.42 | Industrial | lets load a file that loads files instead of loading files ? |
| 11:55.48 | Kurax | It's for Ace file system |
| 11:55.52 | Grum | Industrial: the name is just 'common' so the packager used on wowace can mangle it for non-external requests |
| 11:55.54 | Industrial | "Ace file system" ? |
| 11:55.57 | [Liquidor] | It's still weird tho Kurax |
| 11:56.01 | Industrial | its just a bunch of lua files. |
| 11:56.04 | Grum | its not really |
| 11:56.04 | Orionshock | oh yeah |
| 11:56.06 | Orionshock | AFS |
| 11:56.16 | Kurax | Sorry my bad |
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| 11:56.28 | Kurax | Ace addon downloading system |
| 11:56.35 | Industrial | well, no,. |
| 11:56.39 | Bogopimp | http://pastebin.com/m4d7fc977 |
| 11:56.49 | Industrial | an addon is folder with lua files in it |
| 11:56.53 | Industrial | xD |
| 11:56.55 | Grum | no |
| 11:56.57 | Industrial | zipped maybe. |
| 11:57.10 | Bogopimp | Grum: easily done with xml too :) |
| 11:57.11 | Grum | an addon is a folder with a .toc file named after the folder |
| 11:57.26 | Industrial | Grum: .. I know. |
| 11:57.28 | Grum | Bogopimp: and you create shitloads of globals for no reason, but yeah |
| 11:57.44 | Bogopimp | well my addon isnt going to do much, that isnt the focus |
| 11:57.56 | Bogopimp | tbh i was hopig to throw it together in about 3 hours, its taken way longer :< |
| 11:58.16 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68914 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: No longer requires the warrior to use the addon to see shield wall, now assumes 15 seconds duration (hi tank) and removes the bar if it fades earlier, not that we care about non tanks! |
| 11:58.31 | Snago | Bogopimp: You depend on LRC-2.0 being loaded, so you should remove the true in the GetLibrary call. |
| 11:58.37 | Kurax | Hmm |
| 11:58.48 | Grum | the only 'shitty' thing is that wow itself doesnt support more than OptDep and Dependencies to decide load-order |
| 11:58.54 | Kurax | Seems startRecording() and rc are not in a same scope |
| 11:58.56 | Grum | we need one more class in there :) |
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| 11:59.26 | Industrial | Grum: what more do you need? |
| 11:59.31 | [Liquidor] | Grum, what for? |
| 11:59.34 | Orionshock | Bogopimp: try using ChatFrame1:AddMessage() instead of SendChatMessage() |
| 11:59.52 | Snago | Bogopimp: Also you should use <Include file="libs\LibRangeCheck-2.0\LibRangeCheck-2.0.xml"/> in embeds.xml |
| 12:00.00 | Bogopimp | the chatmessage thing isnt whats causing my problem though |
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| 12:00.25 | Snago | Bogopimp: Your problem is that LRC-2.0 isn't loaded when you try to get it |
| 12:00.43 | Bogopimp | there isnt a librangecheck-2.9.xml :S |
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| 12:00.48 | Bogopimp | *0 |
| 12:00.54 | Kurax | lib.xml |
| 12:00.55 | Snago | Bogopimp: libs/LibRangeCheck-2.0 in the toc don't do anything |
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| 12:02.24 | Orionshock | Bogopimp: imo, don't use a lib at all |
| 12:02.27 | Industrial | http://pastebin.com/m344f6d3 |
| 12:02.30 | Orionshock | www.wowwiki.com/API |
| 12:02.34 | Industrial | Bogopimp: see that pastey |
| 12:02.45 | Industrial | Bogopimp: also, "my addon has loaded" emssages are anoying so i removed it |
| 12:02.56 | Industrial | you knwo its loaded.. because you installed it and its enabled |
| 12:03.27 | Snago | Bogopimp: Doh, LRC-2.0 don't use any .xml >.< So it's: <Script file="libs\LibRangeCheck-2.0\LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua"/> |
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| 12:03.30 | Industrial | I also removed the embeds.xml because its not needed |
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| 12:03.39 | Industrial | and slashes in the toc should be backslashes |
| 12:03.51 | Industrial | and link to the .lua files to be loaded (or .xml) |
| 12:09.15 | VonhintenHOME` | jesus I love WPF |
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| 12:11.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
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| 12:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i haet you CSS |
| 12:11.14 | Bogopimp | the welcome message was for my own benefit really |
| 12:11.18 | Kurax | Slowly and eats lots of resources |
| 12:11.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm making some stupid misstake and not finding it |
| 12:11.23 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 12:12.46 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68915 10XRS/ (5 files): |
| 12:12.46 | CIA-39 | XRS: |
| 12:12.46 | CIA-39 | - Change from Babble Spells to using Spell IDs |
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| 12:13.28 | Kurax | Who's the biggest enemy of Babble Spells and Tradeskills? Yeah, Ackis is |
| 12:13.43 | Ackis | snickers |
| 12:14.05 | sica | uhm, is there an ace addon like the old ct_raidtracker? |
| 12:14.35 | Pkekyo|edu | any HTML nutters here? |
| 12:14.37 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:55] <Industrial> lets load a file that loads files instead of loading files ? <--it's so if you want to disembed your addons |
| 12:14.55 | sag_ich_nicht | you delete embeds.xml, move out libs to your addons folder and you're done, unembedded addon |
| 12:15.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|edu: no, but i'm currently having lots of HTML trouble myself |
| 12:15.21 | stew_a | how nutty a nutter? |
| 12:15.34 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe we can help each other D: |
| 12:15.37 | Kurax | How to make love is a common question |
| 12:16.29 | VonhintenHOME` | HTML won that battle |
| 12:16.52 | Kurax | Post your question and I will see what I can do Pkekyo| =p |
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| 12:18.27 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: and "unembedding" is an urban myth. |
| 12:18.37 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: that it will solve any problem, that is. |
| 12:19.00 | Industrial | if you have too many addons the problem is that you have too many addons, so you should use less - problem fixed. |
| 12:19.07 | Ackis | wow my server is lagging like hell |
| 12:19.07 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 12:19.31 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't have "too many addons" you can have "addons that are shittly coded and don't interact well with other addons" |
| 12:19.44 | Industrial | same difference |
| 12:19.48 | sag_ich_nicht | *shittily |
| 12:19.53 | Industrial | either way, unembedding isnt the solution |
| 12:19.57 | Industrial | (imho) |
| 12:20.38 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 12:20.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial you realize that unembedding isn't done to solve problems but reduce loading time |
| 12:20.54 | sag_ich_nicht | RIGHT? |
| 12:21.02 | Industrial | yes, which seems to be the problem |
| 12:21.03 | Industrial | RIGHT? |
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| 12:21.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 12:21.11 | sag_ich_nicht | god you're |
| 12:21.12 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 12:21.16 | sag_ich_nicht | we're not discussing this |
| 12:21.17 | Industrial | yes. |
| 12:21.22 | sag_ich_nicht | and if you bring it up again i'll ignore you |
| 12:21.27 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 12:21.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ~reverse www.w3.org |
| 12:21.37 | Industrial | pff, afraid? |
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| 12:22.03 | sag_ich_nicht | no, I don't have time for this shit now, i need this html fixed |
| 12:22.50 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/85455 this HTML is made of ASS and me failing at tables |
| 12:23.25 | Industrial | dont use html for layout |
| 12:23.30 | sag_ich_nicht | someone tell me where my CSS is broken so i can fix the tables being SHIT(and by shit i mean spacing shittily/not collapsing) |
| 12:23.37 | Industrial | lol man I thought i was going to say that like 10 mins ago |
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| 12:25.29 | Bogopimp | tables are fine for html layout |
| 12:25.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: and what do YOU suggest? i don't have the time to learn your awesome hurhur i r web 2.0 PHP & AJAX crap, i need strict XHTML 1.1 and that's what i'll get, now either help me with the problem instead of telling me to completely throw the work out of the window and by that miss the fucking point of the wole thing, or gtfo |
| 12:25.59 | Pheredhel | Bogopimp: when? 1800? |
| 12:26.17 | Grum | how can you fail at tables? :D |
| 12:26.20 | Kurax | sag_ich_nicht: Try add table-layout:fixed in .table css |
| 12:26.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum: i don't fail at the tables, i fail at the CSS for the tables |
| 12:26.35 | Bogopimp | <a href ="blah /></a> |
| 12:26.39 | Bogopimp | you dont need the </a> |
| 12:26.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 12:26.44 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: incoming. |
| 12:26.47 | sag_ich_nicht | misstake |
| 12:27.03 | Grum | you do |
| 12:27.11 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: explain what the error is? |
| 12:27.14 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 12:27.19 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/85456 |
| 12:27.20 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: ^ |
| 12:27.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Bogopimp: you're doing it wrong |
| 12:27.23 | Grum | i can guess, you have a 'space'+newline after every element |
| 12:27.26 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: didnt test it tho |
| 12:27.44 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68916 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: |
| 12:27.44 | CIA-39 | BigWigs_CommonAuras: |
| 12:27.44 | CIA-39 | - Add Innervate |
| 12:27.44 | CIA-39 | - Add Rebirth, which just like portals, will not work (as in won't display) until blizz fix spell cast success, hopefully in 2.4.2 at which point it will start working automatically |
| 12:27.47 | Bogopimp | one of us is doing it wrong cause your closing a tag then reclosing it |
| 12:28.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Bogopimp: it's <a href=""><img src=""/></a> |
| 12:28.06 | Grum | oh yeah that is fail indeed |
| 12:28.08 | sag_ich_nicht | you're doing the reading wrong actually :P |
| 12:28.20 | Bogopimp | ah so it is :) |
| 12:28.26 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: you have: <a href="./.htm"><img src="./img/navi/07.jpg" alt=""/></a> |
| 12:28.36 | Grum | omg! |
| 12:28.37 | Grum | ;D |
| 12:28.42 | Funkeh` | Ackis, you're setting global _ in your monolithic if statement in xrs |
| 12:28.45 | Industrial | thats correct? |
| 12:28.46 | Grum | but what are the symptoms sag_ich_nicht? |
| 12:28.52 | Grum | i know Industrial ;D |
| 12:28.53 | Bogopimp | link the xhtml report |
| 12:28.56 | Bogopimp | the sc3 thing |
| 12:29.00 | Bogopimp | *wc3 |
| 12:29.00 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: work? |
| 12:29.05 | sag_ich_nicht | hold on i'll try what kurax said |
| 12:29.10 | sag_ich_nicht | and look at the pastey |
| 12:29.22 | Grum | just tell what is the visual error you get |
| 12:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | not a visual error grum, just not what i want :P |
| 12:29.55 | Grum | what is it not doing then? |
| 12:30.01 | Grum | (and what should it do) |
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| 12:30.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: that's nice, good call |
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| 12:31.00 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: you should have use a list for lists but that was not the problem :D |
| 12:31.09 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm assuming a list of image links is what he was going for |
| 12:31.15 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 12:31.17 | Industrial | Grum: see my pastey |
| 12:31.46 | sag_ich_nicht | but: it's showing listing symbols and has spacing between the images |
| 12:31.49 | sag_ich_nicht | both must die |
| 12:32.04 | Industrial | oh thought I killed that with th css |
| 12:32.12 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 12:32.57 | Stanzilla | it's list-style:none; not list-style-type:none; |
| 12:33.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ah |
| 12:33.06 | Stanzilla | btw.. |
| 12:33.24 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68917 10XRS/ (. libs/): |
| 12:33.24 | CIA-39 | XRS: |
| 12:33.24 | CIA-39 | - Fix the embeds :P |
| 12:33.38 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: then tell that earlier |
| 12:33.48 | Grum | loose newlines between </a> and </td> |
| 12:33.55 | Grum | its a classic render bug :) |
| 12:33.56 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: http://pastebin.com/m1f694679 |
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| 12:34.09 | Industrial | Stanzilla: ah k |
| 12:34.22 | Grum | also between <td> and <a .. > .. no whitespace allowed :) |
| 12:34.56 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68918 10XRS/libs/: |
| 12:34.56 | CIA-39 | XRS: |
| 12:34.56 | CIA-39 | - Fix the embeds :P |
| 12:34.58 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially i'm trying to re-do the website of a friend of mine |
| 12:35.04 | Ackis | ponders |
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| 12:35.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I would still use a table, rather than an unnumbered list |
| 12:35.28 | chdst | recommends tidy |
| 12:36.16 | Gelo | Stanzilla, list-style is shorthand and list-style-type: none is the regular whatchmacallit |
| 12:36.27 | sag_ich_nicht | chdst: already using it |
| 12:36.30 | Stanzilla | mkay^^ |
| 12:36.37 | chdst | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.39 | sag_ich_nicht | still doing the listing symbols Industrial :P |
| 12:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | still doing the spacing |
| 12:36.57 | chdst | Not that tidy would magically solve any of the problems you're having... :P |
| 12:36.57 | sag_ich_nicht | (this is why i wanted to use tables :P) |
| 12:37.11 | Industrial | well i cant test sag_ich_nicht cause I dont have the images :p |
| 12:37.30 | Industrial | (and im leveling my lock >:o) |
| 12:37.31 | sag_ich_nicht | hold on |
| 12:37.40 | stew_a | when you've finished with that, anyone fancy helping me fix my IE css problem? |
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| 12:37.48 | Industrial | stew_a: #css |
| 12:37.49 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:37.54 | Industrial | very nice channel |
| 12:38.03 | stew_a | point |
| 12:38.15 | sag_ich_nicht | I'm asking here because going to #html or #css would just get me "READ THE DOCS" |
| 12:38.44 | sag_ich_nicht | if i had the time to read all of the docs i'd fucking do it, but i don't, so i'm just hacking away at it and fixing it as the problems come |
| 12:39.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh now lemme google wtf it's doing with the listing |
| 12:39.27 | Gelo | how was it supposed to look? |
| 12:39.37 | Industrial | well html+css still is sort of magic "it works, now it doesnt" even when you know all the rules :p |
| 12:40.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Gelo: all the images below each other no borders/spacing/padding in between |
| 12:40.38 | sag_ich_nicht | problem is it's showing bullets from the listing and not doing the spacing right, |
| 12:40.38 | Gelo | did you try td { spacing:0} ? |
| 12:40.40 | sag_ich_nicht | -, |
| 12:40.45 | sag_ich_nicht | not using a table |
| 12:40.48 | Gelo | oh |
| 12:40.53 | Gelo | sorry, was thinking of the other one |
| 12:41.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i could go BACK to using a table |
| 12:41.28 | Gelo | I know I've "hacked" my share of navigation list -.- |
| 12:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | and i think i know why it's not working |
| 12:42.04 | Gelo | dud you post a pasty? |
| 12:42.40 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah hold on |
| 12:43.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: liste-style-type has to belong to li not ul |
| 12:43.31 | Industrial | ah |
| 12:43.32 | VonhintenHOME` | seriously, use a table |
| 12:43.40 | Industrial | VonhintenHOME`: no. its wrong period. |
| 12:44.23 | VonhintenHOME` | I disagree |
| 12:44.56 | Industrial | tables are for tabular data |
| 12:44.57 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 12:44.58 | sag_ich_nicht | he's right |
| 12:45.02 | Industrial | navigation is not tabular data |
| 12:45.08 | sag_ich_nicht | also table probably takes way longer to render |
| 12:45.11 | sag_ich_nicht | (relativly) |
| 12:45.43 | Industrial | the internet is more fun when you take an extreme point of view on things \o/ |
| 12:45.45 | Industrial | xD |
| 12:45.45 | kenlyric | I form hunting parties for people who use tables for layout |
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| 12:45.53 | Gelo | I remember the days of "layers" and 1mb big images as layouts.. man they were annoying |
| 12:46.07 | Industrial | lol, Gelo; dreamweaver layers? |
| 12:46.11 | kenlyric | their deathscreams have a flavor nom nom nom |
| 12:46.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Gelo: guess how the website i'm trying to rebuild works? |
| 12:46.35 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 12:46.44 | sag_ich_nicht | and it uses VML |
| 12:47.09 | kenlyric | backs slowly away from the horror |
| 12:47.12 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastebin.com/m3e6d229e anyway, this is working better, the spacing/padding has gotten way smaller between the images, but is still there |
| 12:47.15 | Gelo | Oh I never used that crap, i visited numerous sites that used it |
| 12:47.32 | Industrial | lol nasty vml :o |
| 12:48.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm being a dick anyway and using a frameset, but the website is small enough to allow for it so meh |
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| 12:48.51 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway, any idea from where that padding is coming? |
| 12:49.22 | Industrial | #nav * {margin:0;padding:0;} |
| 12:49.27 | Industrial | or something |
| 12:49.32 | Industrial | if its goen then its some element inside.. |
| 12:49.34 | Industrial | gone* |
| 12:50.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i can do that anyway |
| 12:50.17 | sag_ich_nicht | because no need for any padding or margin anywhere in there |
| 12:50.21 | chdst | sag_ich_nicht: Are you talking about the left-hand padding on the UL? |
| 12:50.25 | sag_ich_nicht | BRUTEFORCE OVERRIDES FTW |
| 12:50.32 | chdst | Like you're want the list to be totally left justified? |
| 12:50.43 | sag_ich_nicht | chdst: no, padding between the images themself |
| 12:50.51 | sag_ich_nicht | the left justification would be the next problem tho :P |
| 12:51.03 | Stanzilla | -25px |
| 12:51.05 | Stanzilla | ~ |
| 12:51.11 | Stanzilla | margin or padding |
| 12:51.12 | VonhintenHOME` | lol.. let's just totally CSS a UL till it does what a table does easily... |
| 12:51.13 | VonhintenHOME` | GG |
| 12:51.53 | Industrial | VonhintenHOME`: go to #css and ask the question "why shouldnt I use a html table for my website navigation?" |
| 12:51.59 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68919 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: Don't aura scan in p2 |
| 12:52.00 | Gelo | sag_ich_nicht, you want all the padding to go away ? |
| 12:52.02 | Industrial | ill watch |
| 12:52.02 | Industrial | :d |
| 12:52.12 | VonhintenHOME` | Why would I do that? I know exactly what CSS layout zealots are like |
| 12:52.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Gelo: ya |
| 12:52.32 | Gelo | sag_ich_nicht, ul#nav instead of ul #nav ? |
| 12:53.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Gelo: huh, hold on |
| 12:53.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 12:53.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:49] <Industrial> #nav * {margin:0;padding:0;} <--not gone :P |
| 12:53.59 | Lukian | * {margin:0;padding:0;} |
| 12:54.01 | chdst | Yeah, definitely ul#nav, no space |
| 12:54.04 | Lukian | at the top of your css |
| 12:54.14 | Lukian | and then set your own margins and padding for each elements |
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| 12:54.33 | Lukian | don't rely on the browser to choose what it wants to use. |
| 12:56.08 | sag_ich_nicht | chdst: well that simplifies things |
| 12:56.15 | sag_ich_nicht | STILL padding there tho |
| 12:56.24 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68920 10XRS/XRS.lua: |
| 12:56.24 | CIA-39 | XRS: |
| 12:56.26 | CIA-39 | - Forgot a few BSpell references |
| 12:57.06 | chdst | I don't have the nav image, so I'm just not seeing that. I'll throw something in there real quick and see what's up though. |
| 12:57.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i can upload the images but it's pointless you can use just about any image for it :P |
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| 12:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastebin.com/d1b66b562 this is what it looks like now anyway |
| 12:59.14 | chdst | Yeah, I was just avoiding the part where I have to actually do stuff beyond futz with CSS :) |
| 12:59.29 | haste | ew, inline styles on <body> |
| 13:00.08 | haste | let's replace that with: ew, html editor code :< |
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| 13:01.05 | sag_ich_nicht | <haste> HI I'M HASTE AND I'M HRDKR BCUZ I CODE ALL MAH STUFF IN BINARY USIN A WIRESWITCH ATTECHED TO MAH PEE CEE |
| 13:01.17 | haste | :D |
| 13:01.17 | Dranor | ? |
| 13:01.31 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly die in a fire i like my syntax highlighing |
| 13:01.33 | sag_ich_nicht | +t |
| 13:02.02 | durcyn | nah, haste just holds up his disk platter at the right angle and lets stray cosmic rays flip the bits for him |
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| 13:02.13 | Dranor | well inline styles are an easy way of tesing if something will work |
| 13:02.20 | sag_ich_nicht | and the inline styles are there because i cba to move them to the css yet |
| 13:02.33 | kenlyric | notepad++ does syntax highlighting |
| 13:02.44 | sag_ich_nicht | because there are more important things to fix like that fucking padding coming from nowhere |
| 13:02.46 | chdst | I'm resisting the urge to pimp vim...I think Linux fanboyism has even less of a role to play in #wowace than css debugging :P |
| 13:02.51 | Dranor | then you cut that thing and paste on that hellish ccs file |
| 13:03.14 | haste | D: |
| 13:03.25 | sag_ich_nicht | what hellish CSS file? bruteforcing with greedy * is awesome!</sarcasm> |
| 13:04.11 | Dranor | trust me it's not fun to search a style in a ccs file where you have 30+ styles defined |
| 13:04.29 | sag_ich_nicht | look it just needs to work, look pretty and be valid XHTML 1.1... if it renders 0.1 ms slower, who gives a shit |
| 13:04.43 | Industrial | chdst: vim \o/ |
| 13:04.56 | sag_ich_nicht | rending it as list is a noticeable improvement in terms of rendering speed tho, so fuck tables |
| 13:05.00 | sag_ich_nicht | *rendering |
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| 13:08.06 | VonhintenHOME` | You're not gonna win the space battle without using a table |
| 13:08.27 | VonhintenHOME` | unless you want to use some ugly hack |
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| 13:11.49 | Gelo | Adding vertical-align works |
| 13:11.51 | sylvanaar_work | morning |
| 13:13.26 | Gelo | 'morning |
| 13:13.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Gelo: yupp, does, thanks |
| 13:13.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail VonhintenHOME` |
| 13:13.37 | purl | VonhintenHOME`, you Fail! |
| 13:14.02 | VonhintenHOME` | Until the next browser fucks it up |
| 13:14.08 | Gelo | indeed :D |
| 13:14.32 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn 07no-babble * r68921 10Numen/: mkdir |
| 13:14.42 | sag_ich_nicht | VonhintenHOME`: tested in firefox 2.0 3.0 IE7 and Opera |
| 13:14.50 | Gelo | I had a page you could get screens on pages from a Mac but I can't remember what it was |
| 13:14.52 | sag_ich_nicht | you can go eat a dick |
| 13:15.14 | VonhintenHOME` | Hey, if you don't think its a hack... /shrug |
| 13:15.23 | sag_ich_nicht | VonhintenHOME`: how the fuck is it a hack |
| 13:15.25 | sag_ich_nicht | explain yourself |
| 13:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | okay now that the navigation is done ONWARDS to the frameset, i forgot how to use n* properly, someone remind me |
| 13:15.46 | VonhintenHOME` | why vertical alignment would create space where you've told it there should be none? |
| 13:16.00 | sag_ich_nicht | VonhintenHOME`: it didn't creat it, it removed it |
| 13:16.09 | sag_ich_nicht | +e |
| 13:16.11 | VonhintenHOME` | no, setting it to top removed it, it has a default value |
| 13:16.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no shit |
| 13:16.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 13:16.28 | sag_ich_nicht | look go die |
| 13:16.32 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 13:16.33 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 13:17.23 | VonhintenHOME` | Web development sucks several sweaty asses... |
| 13:17.26 | VonhintenHOME` | WPF or die |
| 13:18.23 | Gelo | Screenshot request group 1 - Queue estimate: 2 minutes to 54 minutes (Details) - 43 browsers selected, 1 starting /sleep |
| 13:18.41 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastebin.com/m747073db |
| 13:18.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i got this, but obviously i fail at using n* properly |
| 13:19.32 | VonhintenHOME` | lord have mercy |
| 13:20.06 | Gelo | frames /giggle |
| 13:20.15 | VonhintenHOME` | where's the layout nazi's now... |
| 13:20.24 | sag_ich_nicht | I AM KILLING THEM WITH MY MIND |
| 13:20.30 | sag_ich_nicht | OR |
| 13:20.34 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn 07no-babble * r68922 10Numen/ (12 files in 2 dirs): branches/Numen/no-babble: initial checkin, sans Babble. apparently this needs further testing. |
| 13:20.47 | sag_ich_nicht | i just replicate the damn nagivation bar in a table :P |
| 13:21.04 | sag_ich_nicht | and put the content in the right col :P |
| 13:21.24 | VonhintenHOME` | exsssssellent </smithers> |
| 13:21.24 | Gelo | Wouldn't just a list and newlines suffice? |
| 13:21.39 | Gelo | I mean <a><img /></a><br /> and so on |
| 13:21.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Gelo: huh? |
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| 13:22.08 | sag_ich_nicht | VonhintenHOME`: and in case you didn't notice yet, if you do something COMPLETELY wrong, someone will go "OMFG YOU SHOULD DO IT THIS WAY" |
| 13:22.09 | VonhintenHOME` | flow layout, with breaks |
| 13:22.25 | sag_ich_nicht | if i were to ask for information, i get "RTFM nub" |
| 13:22.36 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 13:22.40 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, typical |
| 13:22.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm abusing that |
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| 13:23.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and obviously frames suck, so tell me how to it better now that i have the nav completed |
| 13:24.07 | VonhintenHOME` | You should use hours of tweaking worth of CSS |
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| 13:25.06 | Gelo | goes of to work flippin' burgers |
| 13:25.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:21] <Gelo> Wouldn't just a list and newlines suffice? <--how? same file as navbar obviously if not using frames, so gimme example |
| 13:25.20 | sag_ich_nicht | no you DON'T |
| 13:25.36 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:22] <VonhintenHOME`> flow layout, with breaks <--example? i can hack my way from there probably :P |
| 13:25.37 | Gelo|Work | :/ :| :D |
| 13:25.46 | zapl | > http://www.exploding-boy.com/images/EBmenus/menus.html |
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| 13:26.22 | sag_ich_nicht | zapl: laaate, the nav is already done |
| 13:26.37 | sag_ich_nicht | thing is combining nav with content now :P |
| 13:27.01 | sag_ich_nicht | content should be to the right of the navbar |
| 13:27.11 | sag_ich_nicht | and will mostly be hugeass images |
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| 13:28.31 | zapl | like http://www.glish.com/css/7.asp maybe |
| 13:28.57 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, the holy grail |
| 13:29.22 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, that should work zapl i think |
| 13:29.48 | Ackis | lol i'm dicking around with some ace3, and it's getting my input as: table: 17BE8C5 |
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| 13:32.25 | Snago | looks like a tostring()-ed table |
| 13:33.07 | Snago | What are you calling? |
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| 13:36.19 | Elsia | heya |
| 13:36.35 | Ackis | it was an option thingy, was kinda funny, but it was the first parameter, when I needed to use the second |
| 13:37.20 | zapl | what addon does that > "[6. CrbY1]V DL0-080///]Shbgnmcqhtr]]/7/30/]0-06////" ? |
| 13:37.45 | Snago | Yes, all "option thingys" get an info table as their first argument with Ace3 |
| 13:37.58 | Ackis | yes technical terms I know :P |
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| 13:40.37 | Orionshock | question, anyone else think this is a dirty hack? |
| 13:40.38 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.03 | Polarina | Orionshock: Why not? |
| 13:42.12 | Orionshock | doing weird lookups with spell ID's and tables, vs 6 static tables with ~9 entrys in them for each locale |
| 13:43.06 | mitch0 | Orion: I think it's better to not use locales at all if possible, so do the "hack" |
| 13:43.26 | mitch0 | orion: you can build a table with that if you'd need to call that too foten |
| 13:43.29 | mitch0 | s/foten/often/ |
| 13:43.49 | Orionshock | im thinking about what is easier |
| 13:44.00 | charon | zapl: you could always find-grep your addons folder for CrbY1 ;) |
| 13:44.06 | charon | and if that doesn't help, your savedvariables |
| 13:44.22 | Orionshock | ah, what i can do is in the locale file just generate the locale on demand wtih GetSpellInfo |
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| 13:56.25 | Orionshock | well.. |
| 13:56.35 | Orionshock | i settled on doing this insetad http://ace.pastey.net/85457 |
| 13:56.48 | Orionshock | throws a weird error on startup tho.. |
| 13:57.01 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68923 10Querier/: |
| 13:57.01 | CIA-39 | Querier: initial commit |
| 13:57.01 | CIA-39 | - Proof of concept for Ace3 for myself, plus allows me to use simple slash commands to query item and spell IDs |
| 13:58.08 | CIA-39 | 03elsia * r68924 10FuBar_RecountFu/RecountFu_Options.lua: |
| 13:58.08 | CIA-39 | FuBar_RecountFu: |
| 13:58.08 | CIA-39 | - Removed "Unknown Spells" as it's no longer needed or supported by Recount. |
| 13:58.58 | CIA-39 | 03elsia * r68925 10Recount/ (Recount_Modes.lua locales/Recount-deDE.lua): |
| 13:58.58 | CIA-39 | Recount: |
| 13:58.58 | CIA-39 | - Fixed mode error for heals. |
| 13:58.58 | CIA-39 | - Added some german locale strings. |
| 13:59.06 | Pkekyo| | morning all |
| 13:59.12 | Elsia | heya Pkekyo| |
| 13:59.21 | Pkekyo| | anyone here know their way 'round HTML? |
| 13:59.32 | Elsia | depends how way ;) |
| 13:59.53 | Pkekyo| | http://pkekyo.pastebin.org/28737 <--- I'm trying to figure out why those two do -not- output the same result |
| 14:00.33 | Elsia | what do they output? |
| 14:01.04 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68926 10Querier/ (. Querier.lua Querier.toc embeds.xml): |
| 14:01.04 | CIA-39 | Querier: |
| 14:01.04 | CIA-39 | - Initial file commit |
| 14:01.05 | CIA-39 | - Externals should be set up |
| 14:01.13 | Pkekyo| | they're to display a 1px image at a set interval... the one on the right (latter one) outputs the graphics one bloody pixel too far right |
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| 14:01.33 | Elsia | or more precisely what's your <tr>, td on it's own doesn't work |
| 14:01.49 | Elsia | and <table> of course |
| 14:02.08 | Wobin | no padding |
| 14:02.12 | Wobin | or borders on the table? |
| 14:02.24 | Elsia | http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_TD.asp |
| 14:02.44 | sag_ich_nicht | asdasdasfsaf |
| 14:02.44 | Pkekyo| | not on the table |
| 14:02.47 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you IE |
| 14:02.49 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck yooooou |
| 14:02.55 | Wobin | sag_ich_nicht: It does. |
| 14:02.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate you and your CSS rendering :X |
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| 14:03.29 | Pkekyo| | Elsia: thing is...there's two sets of that damn thing, and the upper set works, whilst the lower set has one half of it offset 1px to the right - under the exactly same conditions (tr is the same) |
| 14:04.05 | Poul|Raider | Anyone good at analysing combatlogs :D http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62718/ line 1329 (felmyst encounter, the Mind control debuff got removed somehow, but we just cant find out what and how) |
| 14:04.24 | CIA-39 | 03hamunaptra * r68927 10fmBuffCheck/Locale-frFR.lua: |
| 14:04.24 | CIA-39 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 14:04.24 | CIA-39 | - added the first traces of french localization. Translators VERY welcome... |
| 14:04.50 | Pkekyo| | so I was curious as to what differed between the two TDs |
| 14:05.14 | Orionshock | hamunaptra ?? |
| 14:05.15 | CIA-39 | 03orionshock * r68928 10GuildCraft/BTS-Mini.lua: GuildCraft: Update Mini-BTS to use GetSpellInfo to generate locale information. You prolly want to reset your DB if you get any errors. |
| 14:05.18 | CIA-39 | 03ulic * r68929 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Skyriss.lua: LittleWigs: TK/Skyriss- Bugfix |
| 14:05.29 | Elsia | Pkekyo| could it have to do with text wrapping or are you using any style? |
| 14:05.54 | Pkekyo| | no text wrapping used |
| 14:06.00 | Elsia | Pkekyo| well the stuff you pastied has no difference, but that two lines doesn't completely define the rendering of it |
| 14:06.08 | Pkekyo| | sec, I'll see if I can get the laptop out and snip the whole code |
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| 14:10.32 | charon | Poul|Raider: lines 1329/1330 say that Nisquemoth lost FoC and got CB instead by nobody (0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000) |
| 14:10.45 | Poul|Raider | YE |
| 14:10.57 | Poul|Raider | but CB removes mind control? |
| 14:11.00 | Poul|Raider | dont sound right |
| 14:11.02 | charon | dunno |
| 14:11.08 | charon | "nobody's conc blow" doesn't make much sense either |
| 14:11.11 | Poul|Raider | but also what i could make of it |
| 14:11.26 | Wobin | it also sounds dirty =P |
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| 14:11.58 | Poul|Raider | but still no idea of what actuly removed it |
| 14:12.25 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r68930 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Button.lua IB_Class.lua IB_Main.lua): InfiniBar-2.0 - Spell tooltips now properly display the rank of the spell. |
| 14:12.32 | Pkekyo| | Elsia: http://pkekyo.pastebin.org/28764 |
| 14:12.41 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn 07no-babble * r68931 10Numen/Numen.lua: branches/Numen/no-babble: fix Flametongue Weapon |
| 14:13.34 | Pkekyo| | mate of mine were going to 'fix' it (thus screwing up the code), but I -think- it should all be there still |
| 14:13.36 | CIA-39 | 03pettigrow * r68932 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-frFR.lua: GatherMate: frFR Update |
| 14:13.40 | Elsia | Pkekyo| can you linky me the images too? |
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| 14:14.10 | Pkekyo| | they're not available online |
| 14:14.19 | Pkekyo| | basicly, they're a 1px vertical border |
| 14:15.19 | charon | Poul|Raider: ah, apparently the aura stuff doesn't get a source anyway |
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| 14:15.27 | Elsia | so how exactly does it render wrong. the upper renders different than the lower? but that makes sense because the lower has no middle td with colspan etc |
| 14:15.34 | charon | 4/9 23:58:42.043 SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,0x00000000001265BE,"Igraine",0x40514,0x0000000000AC64ED,"Nisquemoth",0x1248,12809,"Concussion Blow",0x1 |
| 14:15.40 | Poul|Raider | ahh |
| 14:15.43 | Elsia | charon: correct, aura_ events don't have sources |
| 14:16.06 | Poul|Raider | but unrealistic if CB clears the MC |
| 14:16.06 | Pkekyo| | Elsia: the upper renders correctly, the lower renders one px to the right of it for some reason...there -used to be- atleast a td in there |
| 14:16.09 | Elsia | neither do UNIT_DIED or SPELL_CAST_START |
| 14:16.30 | Elsia | Pkekyo| there is a td in there, but the top TD spans 3 columns, which makes a difference |
| 14:16.46 | Pkekyo| | three rows |
| 14:17.01 | Elsia | basically you want the full attributes of the middle TD for equivalent rendering <td rowspan="3" style="padding: 0px 21px 80px 20px" valign="top"> |
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| 14:17.12 | Elsia | the rowspan and style matter |
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| 14:17.40 | Pkekyo| | rowspan didn't change anything |
| 14:18.25 | Elsia | basically the way this is rendered is that it renders a TR based on all TDs, so if attributes in any TD differs it will render the whole row differently |
| 14:18.27 | Pkekyo| | added all yous aid to it...it fucked it up completely |
| 14:19.08 | Elsia | try just <td style="padding: 0px 21px 80px 20px"> |
| 14:19.20 | Elsia | in the middle td only of course |
| 14:19.30 | Pkekyo| | that's what completely borked it |
| 14:19.46 | Elsia | well you gotta figure out how to match the styles... that's your problem here basically |
| 14:19.48 | Pkekyo| | I set it to 0px 0px 80px 0px and it's back to being off by 1px |
| 14:20.30 | charon | Poul|Raider: i have no idea about the encounter mechanics, but the timestamps on 1329/1330 are the same which is a huge coincidence if CB actually had nothing to do with it |
| 14:20.32 | Elsia | oh and the bottom <tr> misses the /, i.e. it should be </tr> |
| 14:20.41 | Elsia | sorry nevermind |
| 14:20.45 | Elsia | got confused by indentation |
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| 14:21.04 | Pkekyo| | there's no lacking /tr |
| 14:21.12 | Elsia | i know |
| 14:21.14 | Poul|Raider | ye charon, nothing else then try CB a MC player again and see what happens :D |
| 14:21.33 | Elsia | anyway, alternative approach: ditch the attribute of the top middle TD, as said the mismatch of those TDs causes your issue |
| 14:21.39 | Pkekyo| | Poul|Raider: talking about coyote brown and multicam? |
| 14:21.49 | Poul|Raider | no :D |
| 14:21.52 | Pkekyo| | Elsia: what attribute exactly? |
| 14:21.53 | Pkekyo| | oh :/ |
| 14:21.53 | oRk-spliff | hi. im trying to test the decurse-addon for kalecgos, but the "options" seem to be empty in the grid-config. any idea what im doing wrong? |
| 14:22.02 | Elsia | for starters all of it |
| 14:22.02 | Poul|Raider | Concussion Blow |
| 14:22.07 | Poul|Raider | and Mind Control |
| 14:22.10 | Poul|Raider | on felmyst |
| 14:22.19 | Elsia | <td rowspan="3" style="padding: 0px 21px 80px 20px" valign="top"> -> <td> |
| 14:22.29 | oRk-spliff | i referring to that addon, sry: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12464.0 |
| 14:23.15 | Pkekyo| | might have worked, I can't tell (they're too far apart to tell now |
| 14:23.37 | Pkekyo| | :/ |
| 14:23.45 | Elsia | it's really hard to debug without the images and knowing waht actual layout you want |
| 14:23.59 | Elsia | but the issue is that the TDs of each row needs to match if you want coherent alignment |
| 14:24.14 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastebin.com/m1d30df13 someone pleae tell me why this won't render properly in IE(the navbar is moved to the right over centercontent by the margin of contercontent or similar, see Firefox for reference rendering)/what the hell I did wrong (yes I'm a moron, yes I'm a fool, yes I did a lot of blind copy/paste, I AM already RTFM and no, I don't have the time to read all of it because then it'll be too late) |
| 14:24.15 | Pkekyo| | well, they did, didn't they? |
| 14:24.20 | Elsia | no |
| 14:24.25 | Elsia | the middle TD did not match |
| 14:24.31 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: because it's IE? |
| 14:24.54 | Elsia | I am referring to line 6 vs line 24 |
| 14:25.00 | Bogopimp | sag_ich_nicht - you mean its like homework ? |
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| 14:26.15 | Pkekyo| | blar :/ |
| 14:26.17 | Elsia | as said, _all_ TDs in a row (TR) have to match, only the one for the images match, but not the middle ones. You have 3 not 2 TDs per row.. |
| 14:26.45 | Elsia | the 2 TDs for the images match, but not the TD inbetween. that is the difference between the top and the bottom |
| 14:26.47 | oRk-spliff | sorry, anyone here using this grid module: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12464.0? |
| 14:26.52 | Pkekyo| | either way, they -seem- to be aligned now...now I just have to find out how to fill the space in between them with a 1px border :p |
| 14:27.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Bogopimp: more like: i'm helping a friend of mine by making her shit website work and she has a deadline, so i can either let her use her STUPID frontpage created crap that only works in IE and uses gigantic images |
| 14:27.08 | oRk-spliff | did i end up in #selfhtml? |
| 14:27.14 | oRk-spliff | thought this is #wowace :/ |
| 14:27.20 | sag_ich_nicht | OR i get it working so the internet doesn't have to suffer another terrible website |
| 14:27.38 | sag_ich_nicht | (now DON'T ask me how SHE got tasked with making that website... I DON'T KNOW) |
| 14:27.46 | Pkekyo| | oRk-spliff: this -is- wowace....don't expect an irc chan to be ontopic though |
| 14:28.24 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: fuck IE...if people use IE, they're tools and do not deserve to view your balls-fantastic website |
| 14:28.49 | Bogopimp | a good website works in ie |
| 14:28.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo|: how about: suck a dick it's not a private homepage so personal opinion doesn't matter jackshit? |
| 14:29.02 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 14:29.22 | Bogopimp | and sag_ich_nicht - dont come on irc expecting help, be rude to people then expect responces :) |
| 14:29.47 | oRk-spliff | ok, another problem: anyone here know why i dont ever get a confirmation/authentication email when registering with the wowace forum? i cant ask my questien there because of that. |
| 14:29.48 | Bogopimp | people dont want to do your work for you, even if you want to for your freind |
| 14:29.48 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68933 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: Re-write encapsulate, now does target scanning to make people happy, with the disadvantage that you need your tank in the blizzard Main Tank list to cut down on code. |
| 14:29.58 | Pkekyo| | sag_ich_nicht: I stand by my statement, no matter for what purpose the website is made |
| 14:30.23 | Pkekyo| | Bogopimp: he's a regular here, he knows the drill.. |
| 14:30.31 | Bogopimp | alright :) |
| 14:30.47 | Pkekyo| | oh, and welcome to the delightfully off-topic wowace chan :> |
| 14:30.57 | Bogopimp | heh |
| 14:31.13 | Bogopimp | i usually frequent the java channel on quakenet and you cant go even a wee bit offtopic there |
| 14:31.17 | oRk-spliff | site admin here? |
| 14:31.18 | Bogopimp | else you get the bok thrown at you |
| 14:31.22 | Bogopimp | book |
| 14:31.27 | oRk-spliff | dammit :/ |
| 14:31.36 | Elsia | ~offtopic |
| 14:31.48 | Elsia | ~stab purl |
| 14:31.49 | purl | ACTION runs at purl with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 14:31.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Bogopimp: i know perfectly well how to talk to people and not to talk to people to get what i want |
| 14:32.21 | oRk-spliff | tell me, i need help with an wowace addon! |
| 14:32.27 | oRk-spliff | :)) |
| 14:32.28 | Pkekyo| | ~asktoask |
| 14:32.29 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 14:33.24 | Bogopimp | i guess this is a wow related channel |
| 14:33.33 | Bogopimp | cant expect people to be polite really :) |
| 14:33.37 | oRk-spliff | plus i cant register with the wowace forums because i never get the auth mail (and my mail acc works) |
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| 14:33.55 | Pkekyo| | you'll find that most people here are...the ones that are not just scream a bit louder |
| 14:33.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Bogopimp do ~emulate sag_ich_nicht |
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| 14:34.18 | Pkekyo| | Ordog: spam filter? |
| 14:34.22 | Bogopimp | nope |
| 14:34.28 | Ordog | Oo |
| 14:34.46 | Bogopimp | people looking for help should be polite though, always |
| 14:34.49 | Pkekyo| | had a wee bit trouble getting the auth mail myself, eventeually got it working though... |
| 14:34.52 | Pkekyo| | ~emulate sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:34.52 | purl | because i am retarded |
| 14:34.59 | Kurax | rofl |
| 14:35.00 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 14:35.21 | Ordog | hmmm |
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| 14:35.54 | CIA-39 | 03pastamancer * r68934 10GridStatusKalecgos/GridStatusKalecgos.lua: GridStatusKalecgos: get rid of extra empty option menu. |
| 14:36.47 | Health | What does that one do? |
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| 14:36.58 | Pkekyo| | what does what do? |
| 14:37.26 | winkiller | Kaelten: heya, you here? |
| 14:37.26 | Health | GridStatusKalecgos |
| 14:37.49 | Poul|Raider | "get rid of extra empty option menu." |
| 14:37.51 | oRk-spliff | hah! jeah my update <3 |
| 14:38.00 | oRk-spliff | i think my question is obsolete, then |
| 14:38.23 | pastamancer | it shows the duration of "Curse of Boundless Agony" and it'll change colors after 10 seconds |
| 14:38.29 | sag_ich_nicht | [16:34] <Bogopimp> people looking for help should be polite though, always <--i'm not a fucking beggar. you either give me help, or you don't. if you say stupid stuff to me, i'll tell you what i think of it and you for saying it. if you get upset about that you probably have a problem with honesty and a person being honest, in which case i think we should end this conversation rather quickly. |
| 14:38.53 | Bogopimp | ok |
| 14:38.59 | pastamancer | oRk-spliff: what username did you sign-up as on the forums? |
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| 14:39.23 | oRk-spliff | i think it was "spliff0r" pastamancer |
| 14:39.38 | pastamancer | oRk-spliff: @freakmail.de? |
| 14:39.40 | doc^blup | how do i make an easy config with ace3? |
| 14:39.43 | oRk-spliff | yes |
| 14:39.59 | pastamancer | activated |
| 14:40.07 | oRk-spliff | wow, thank you very much |
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| 14:44.03 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r68935 10DaHud/modules/Portraits/Core.lua: |
| 14:44.03 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 14:44.03 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.37 | Pkekyo| | http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z196/byrnsie44/100_9300-1.jpg my eyes hurt nao :< |
| 14:44.50 | Pkekyo| | methinks I died a bit inside too |
| 14:45.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh, g2g driving home, bbl |
| 14:45.23 | Pkekyo| | have fun |
| 14:47.08 | Bogopimp | hmm, probly coul dhave mentioned my solutions when i had a table that didnt work right in ie but did in firefox... |
| 14:47.15 | Bogopimp | ah well |
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| 14:48.27 | Pkekyo| | ^^ |
| 14:50.01 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68936 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Brutallus: Add half a second onto stomp, seems random between 30-32sec |
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| 14:52.08 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r68937 10DaHud/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:52.08 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 14:52.08 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.06 | winkiller | are there any hints how to debug addons? |
| 14:53.27 | winkiller | any no, I have no clue about writing addons, but I'd love to investigate an assumed bug |
| 14:53.28 | Pkekyo| | blaaaaaar |
| 14:53.38 | Pkekyo| | winkiller: know what addon it is? |
| 14:53.45 | Industrial | look where the error is, look in the code at that line, fix it - next ? |
| 14:53.48 | Industrial | oh, nm then :P |
| 14:53.55 | winkiller | Mendeleev doesn't show tooltips for Class Reagents |
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| 14:54.15 | winkiller | but I can't tell if it's Mendeleev or PeriodicZtable or babble inbetween |
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| 14:54.35 | Pkekyo| | disable them one by one and see if you can make it work or fail even more? |
| 14:54.49 | Pkekyo| | easy way to find out which one is tossing you about |
| 14:55.00 | winkiller | I meant more like a bit of introspection or debug output of variables :P |
| 14:55.22 | winkiller | I got no errors, it just doesn't show. and I'm not new to programming, just to lua and addons |
| 14:55.42 | kergoth | so dive into mendeleev and add some debug output |
| 14:55.43 | Polarina | 0x00000000010CFA6C -- GUID of a gold-seller for those interested. |
| 14:55.53 | kergoth | you don't have a debugger, but you can printf/printk debug just fine :P |
| 14:56.18 | winkiller | kergoth: ok, thought there might some debugging howto around |
| 14:56.30 | winkiller | I also remotely remember some addon to catch the stuff |
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| 14:56.50 | kergoth | there are addons to catch errors and add a traceback, but that doesnt help you here, you have no errors |
| 14:57.11 | kergoth | and devtools provides some tools, like event monitoring and dumping a table to the chat window as a string, and such |
| 14:57.26 | kergoth | but thats about it. |
| 14:57.39 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 14:58.07 | Fisker- | Anyone know why a panel in a JApplet would fill the whole screen when i had manually setSize to 250,100? |
| 14:58.16 | winkiller | Fisker-: layout |
| 14:58.27 | winkiller | with some of them it |
| 14:58.30 | winkiller | 's autofill |
| 14:58.36 | winkiller | but dunno which. GridBag, etc |
| 14:58.48 | sylvanaar_work | looks like trillian astra got a breaking change this week |
| 14:58.52 | sylvanaar_work | or last |
| 14:58.59 | Fisker- | winkiller layout is set to null |
| 14:59.08 | Fisker- | i do the layouts myself |
| 14:59.15 | winkiller | mhm |
| 14:59.38 | winkiller | same in jwindow or jframe? |
| 14:59.47 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r68938 10Incubator/ (IncubatorFuBar.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: shove FuBarPlugin's options table back into the new OnMenuRequest table using Funkeh's clever hack from BW. Thanks, Funkeh! |
| 14:59.56 | Fisker- | i don't use that :P |
| 15:00.02 | Fisker- | and if i do i don't know |
| 15:00.07 | Fisker- | (i'm a novice btw) |
| 15:00.43 | Funkeh` | my clever hack? was probably rabbits or ammos |
| 15:00.45 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 15:00.48 | winkiller | just replace JApplet with Jwindow and see if it's same behaviour :) |
| 15:00.51 | Fisker- | do i need to call setLayout for each panel? |
| 15:01.01 | durcyn | oh, someone's clever hack. thanks regardless. |
| 15:01.24 | winkiller | has been some years since I did java gui stuff :P |
| 15:01.48 | Pkekyo| | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Pbhosting/MAAJonesybear.jpg |
| 15:01.52 | Pkekyo| | chuckles |
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| 15:02.12 | winkiller | wtf |
| 15:02.26 | winkiller | JIRA is madness. only lowercase names? wtf |
| 15:02.53 | Fisker- | JWindow just gives me a classcast exception |
| 15:03.25 | Fisker- | ah |
| 15:03.29 | Fisker- | looks like i fixed it now |
| 15:03.45 | Fisker- | for some apparent reason i can't see |
| 15:04.06 | Fisker- | feels like you're playing the lottery when coding in java |
| 15:04.31 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68939 10kgPanelsConfig/ (PanelHelper.lua kgPanelsConfig.lua): kgPanelsConfig: updated edit boxes for scripts to be bigger |
| 15:05.01 | Arcaia | how efficient is Revenge for keeping aggro at lower levels? |
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| 15:08.23 | Bogopimp | ravenege is awesome |
| 15:08.27 | Bogopimp | at all level i found |
| 15:08.53 | Bogopimp | at least i used it at all levels and found it to be a decent aggro generator |
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| 15:16.34 | Benumbed | only way to know if you own the buff, is if you can get the remaining time thru UnitBuff? |
| 15:16.40 | CIA-39 | 03pettigrow * r68940 10BigWigs/ (BlackTemple/Illidan.lua Sunwell/Felmyst.lua): BigWigs: frFR Update |
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| 15:17.37 | Snago | Benumbed: Yes |
| 15:17.59 | Benumbed | terrible =x |
| 15:20.55 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68941 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: remove a variable left behind by the rewrite |
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| 15:27.44 | Zergreth | hi there |
| 15:27.54 | Zergreth | just thought i would give x-perl a try again |
| 15:28.13 | Zergreth | and it doesnt load the bar textures of sharedmedia anymore for some weird reason that i cant figure out |
| 15:28.15 | Zergreth | any idea? |
| 15:29.16 | Mok | check if its in valid texture format |
| 15:29.34 | Zergreth | sharedmedia, of course it is |
| 15:29.35 | Zergreth | worked before |
| 15:29.36 | Zergreth | D: |
| 15:29.40 | EvilGrin | Gnarfoz, Is it possible to support 'Captain Rumey's Lager' in AceFishing in some way? |
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| 15:32.22 | Zergreth | mh |
| 15:32.23 | Zergreth | works now |
| 15:32.24 | Zergreth | :D |
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| 15:35.28 | Matrix110| | Funkeh` do you still need any combat logs? |
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| 15:35.58 | Matrix110| | got a Brutallus log here if you need |
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| 15:38.35 | Zergreth | can i get my cartographer memory usage down somehow? :f |
| 15:38.52 | Grum | Zergreth; what do you use it for? |
| 15:39.06 | Zergreth | uh |
| 15:39.07 | Zergreth | thats |
| 15:39.09 | Zergreth | uhm |
| 15:39.13 | Zergreth | thats actually a good question |
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| 15:39.14 | Zergreth | let me check |
| 15:39.17 | Zergreth | maybe i will remember |
| 15:39.47 | Grum | do you use it for gather-postion storage? |
| 15:39.50 | Grum | do you use it for notes? |
| 15:39.57 | Grum | do you use it so you can move the map around? |
| 15:40.01 | Zergreth | nope, only minor things |
| 15:40.03 | Grum | do you use it to reveil undiscovered areas |
| 15:40.08 | Zergreth | that, yes |
| 15:40.12 | Zergreth | undiscovered stuff |
| 15:40.14 | Grum | install mapster |
| 15:40.18 | Zergreth | the notes it gives, like, level recommend stuff |
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| 15:40.25 | Zergreth | then the fishing stuff, what fishing skill is required |
| 15:40.29 | Grum | handynotes for notes |
| 15:40.37 | Zergreth | and for the coords on the worldmap frame |
| 15:40.39 | Grum | i dont have a replacement for the 'zone info' tbh |
| 15:40.51 | Zergreth | so i can mouse around and see the coords where my mouse is, and my player coords |
| 15:41.02 | Grum | mapster does coords+reveil, handynotes does notes and fishing .. get gathermate |
| 15:41.03 | Zergreth | well, player coords i got with locationfu, but i like them in the worldmapframe |
| 15:41.20 | Zergreth | what about the information |
| 15:41.26 | Zergreth | like, what instances there are in the zone |
| 15:41.29 | Zergreth | what level the zone is for |
| 15:41.37 | Zergreth | + what fishing skill you need to fish there |
| 15:41.47 | Zergreth | onvm |
| 15:41.51 | Zergreth | overread that part |
| 15:41.51 | Zergreth | ;D |
| 15:41.55 | Zergreth | hmm, well |
| 15:42.07 | Grum | instances+fishing skill .. i use memory + proper website |
| 15:42.28 | Grum | if you dont know which instances are in which zone hehe ... l2playmore! |
| 15:43.00 | EvilGrin | Grum, LocationFu for zoneinfo? |
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| 15:43.05 | Zergreth | i do, but i always found it handy |
| 15:43.16 | Zergreth | does locationfu show level recommend stuff |
| 15:43.17 | Grum | EvilGrin: oh yes that one should do |
| 15:43.21 | EvilGrin | it does |
| 15:43.27 | EvilGrin | and fishing and instances and junk |
| 15:43.30 | Grum | Zergreth: you should be able to level without even looking |
| 15:43.31 | EvilGrin | assuming you turn that on |
| 15:44.39 | Zergreth | grum, i dont know myself why i want all that info up there |
| 15:44.43 | Zergreth | but i want it for whatever reason |
| 15:45.12 | Grum | well locationfu provides it :) |
| 15:45.17 | Zergreth | ye, i just saw |
| 15:45.20 | Zergreth | i never noticed that before |
| 15:45.22 | Zergreth | ;f |
| 15:45.28 | Zergreth | any idea why cartographer eats so much memory? |
| 15:45.38 | Grum | because it was not made not to do that |
| 15:45.47 | Zergreth | owell |
| 15:45.50 | Zergreth | probably true |
| 15:45.50 | Zergreth | :D |
| 15:45.58 | Grum | the alternatives i mentioned were (because cartographer didn't) |
| 15:46.23 | CIA-39 | 03pastamancer * r68942 10GridStatusKalecgos/GridStatusKalecgos.toc: GridStatusKalecgos: added X-AceForum to toc |
| 15:46.42 | Zergreth | will get mapster now |
| 15:46.51 | Zergreth | is that on files.? |
| 15:46.59 | Grum | oe pastamancer, what will it do? just give you a side indicator for 'in and out' ? |
| 15:47.00 | Zergreth | found |
| 15:47.01 | Zergreth | :) |
| 15:47.06 | Grum | ;) |
| 15:47.22 | pastamancer | Grum: it's for the curse |
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| 15:49.45 | Pkekyo| | bwahah, the USD is below 5 real monies...time to go nuts on ebay =D |
| 15:49.48 | Grum | pastamancer: aaaah k, i just added it to the custom debuffs and handed the indicator to the center-icon :) |
| 15:50.03 | Grum | Pkekyo|: below 5 real monies? |
| 15:50.11 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 15:50.36 | pastamancer | Grum: the status module changes color afte 10 sec and gives you a time elapsed if you assign it to a text indicator |
| 15:50.42 | Pkekyo| | and it's awesome :D |
| 15:50.49 | Pkekyo| | when I was a kid, it used to be like 10 real monies |
| 15:51.01 | Azurewrath | real monies? wtf? |
| 15:51.07 | Grum | pastamancer: oh that is cool |
| 15:51.09 | ckknight | pesos? |
| 15:51.10 | Pkekyo| | NOK (norwegian currency) |
| 15:51.18 | Grum | could you possible make one for the 'burn' for Brutallus as well? |
| 15:51.37 | Azurewrath | but hey, 1 EUR = $1,59.. i should shop a bit in the US ;) |
| 15:51.49 | pastamancer | Grum: how's that work? |
| 15:51.49 | Grum | maybe even: debuffstack+burncooldown |
| 15:51.55 | Pkekyo| | Azurewrath: exactly |
| 15:52.05 | Zergreth | w00t, mapster is cool |
| 15:52.08 | Zergreth | exactly what i need |
| 15:52.09 | Grum | burn is a 60 second dot, ticking every second, doing the following ticks: |
| 15:52.09 | Pkekyo| | actually, it should be more like $2 now |
| 15:52.26 | Silviu- | Anyone know of a lightweight minimap addon ? ;) |
| 15:52.32 | Grum | 11x100, 11x200, 11x400, 11x800, 11x1600, 6x3200 |
| 15:52.52 | Grum | Silviu-: MiniMapster or some dog name (chinchilla?) |
| 15:53.00 | Silviu- | preferable not Ace2, rock i`m tired of 2000 libs |
| 15:53.01 | Silviu- | :P |
| 15:53.09 | Zergreth | try vMinimap |
| 15:53.14 | Silviu- | Thx ;-) |
| 15:53.16 | Zergreth | not on files. check wowi |
| 15:53.27 | Grum | if you want minimal, do MiniMapster :D |
| 15:53.42 | Zergreth | tracking feature is somewhat out of date, but i can live with that, since i dont use it :P |
| 15:53.47 | ckknight | Grum: Chinchilla's a rodent |
| 15:54.06 | Fisker- | btw |
| 15:54.07 | Fisker- | http://ace.pastey.net/85463-2nvr |
| 15:54.13 | Grum | pastamancer: you can also get a debuff (from http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45150 ) |
| 15:54.16 | Silviu- | ckknight sorry to let u down and quit with Chincilla :P |
| 15:54.18 | Zergreth | chinchilla has too many features D: |
| 15:54.20 | Grum | and you might have 3 stacks of it |
| 15:54.26 | Fisker- | if anyone knows java and might give insight into why i my drawrect doesn't work i'd appreciate it |
| 15:54.29 | ckknight | Silviu-: I suggest you don't dismiss Chinchilla out of hand. |
| 15:54.34 | Zergreth | i tried chinchilla for 10 minutes or something then switched back to what i had back then |
| 15:54.35 | Silviu- | ;-) |
| 15:54.40 | Grum | having 1+ stack during the last 6 seconds means you *cannot* survive |
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| 15:54.48 | Paene | ~api GetItemInfo |
| 15:54.49 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 15:54.58 | pastamancer | Grum: hrm, so you want to let it tick for how long? |
| 15:55.11 | Silviu- | Already deleted Pitbull and Cartographer, as i said before .. tired of 2000 libs for just ~ 20 addons :( |
| 15:55.12 | Grum | well you cannot dispell the burn debuff, it has to be outhealed |
| 15:55.18 | Zergreth | i want to reduce my addon memory usage right now |
| 15:55.31 | Grum | but it would be cool if it could warn when the ticks are >1500 for example |
| 15:55.34 | Zergreth | im using agUF and im pretty fuckin happy with it, but is there anything similar eating less memory? |
| 15:55.42 | Silviu- | oUF |
| 15:55.42 | Grum | (which would be the last 16 seconds) |
| 15:55.44 | Silviu- | ~50 kb |
| 15:55.45 | Silviu- | :D |
| 15:55.50 | Silviu- | loves haste |
| 15:55.56 | Zergreth | i heard of that and saw it |
| 15:55.57 | Zergreth | looks sexy |
| 15:55.59 | Zergreth | but where the fuck |
| 15:56.00 | haste | what now? |
| 15:56.01 | Zergreth | can i get that |
| 15:56.02 | Zergreth | ._. |
| 15:56.07 | Zergreth | you are loved |
| 15:56.10 | Zergreth | nothing more |
| 15:56.13 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 15:56.18 | Zergreth | ye, tell me |
| 15:56.20 | haste | *continues to watch Spaced* |
| 15:56.22 | Zergreth | where do i get that |
| 15:56.24 | pastamancer | Grum: ah... it wouldn't be too hard to change the kalecgos module for that |
| 15:56.29 | Silviu- | http://ixo.no/git/ |
| 15:56.38 | Zergreth | ahhh |
| 15:56.38 | Grum | and even cooler if you can do a: Meteor Slash cooldown > Burn Cooldown - 6 .. turn the text red orso |
| 15:56.39 | Zergreth | ty |
| 15:56.39 | Zergreth | :D |
| 15:56.53 | Grum | because with +75% dmg and 3200 ticks per second .. you can not possibly heal that |
| 15:56.57 | Zergreth | are there any agUF features that i will miss when most likely switching? |
| 15:56.59 | Paene | what's the function you can use to only retrieve a certain return value from a function? |
| 15:57.03 | Grum | so you should not try =D |
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| 15:57.32 | Zergreth | paene, what exactly do you mean? |
| 15:57.32 | Silviu- | Zergreth u can`t edit anything in game tho, u must make an layout in lua |
| 15:57.38 | pastamancer | Grum: write up a proposal on the raid forum |
| 15:57.39 | Zergreth | im fine with that |
| 15:57.52 | Zergreth | if you want to store one of x return values in a variable |
| 15:58.01 | Zergreth | lets say a function returns x,y,z |
| 15:58.04 | Zergreth | if you want z |
| 15:58.05 | Zergreth | you can do |
| 15:58.16 | Fisker- | http://ace.pastey.net/85463-2nvr <- if anyone knows java and might give insight into why i my drawrect doesn't work i'd appreciate it (moar commercials) |
| 15:58.19 | Paene | nvm: it's select() |
| 15:58.19 | Zergreth | local _, _, var = Funct(stuff) |
| 15:58.31 | Zergreth | i know i suck at describing |
| 15:58.34 | Zergreth | but thats what i do |
| 15:58.41 | Grum | pastamancer: i'll ponder abit about it :) |
| 15:58.53 | Paene | select(3, Funct(stuff)) |
| 15:59.01 | Zergreth | ah |
| 15:59.06 | Zergreth | looks good, too |
| 15:59.09 | Paene | :) |
| 15:59.50 | evl | Any Ace equivialent to Power Auras? |
| 16:00.11 | Zergreth | why do you want to dump an addon for something that does the same but uses ace? |
| 16:00.12 | Zergreth | o.O |
| 16:00.31 | Matrix110| | evl no |
| 16:00.39 | Matrix110| | only Avion but it uses rock afaik? |
| 16:00.42 | Matrix110| | and Power Auras <3 |
| 16:00.45 | Grum | Zergreth: because ace can re-use libraries |
| 16:00.46 | Silviu- | Zergreth http://i32.tinypic.com/2441h0o.jpg current layout but a WIP one |
| 16:00.53 | evl | Matrix110|: says it was updated like a year ago :P |
| 16:01.02 | Matrix110| | Avion or Power Auras? |
| 16:01.12 | Zergreth | Grum, still doesnt matter for me D: |
| 16:01.23 | dylanm_ | Does Avion work? |
| 16:01.25 | Grum | those unitframes are made of fail! man those horrid black fuzzy outlines .. brrrr |
| 16:01.29 | evl | Matrix110|: power auras |
| 16:01.32 | dylanm_ | I know it's somewhat abandoned. |
| 16:01.32 | Zergreth | haha |
| 16:01.37 | Matrix110| | dylanm_ i dont know but Power Auras works flawless for me |
| 16:01.39 | Zergreth | i dont like those unitframes either |
| 16:01.52 | Stanzilla | I hate the font |
| 16:01.56 | Stanzilla | and the outline :P |
| 16:02.01 | Silviu- | ;-) |
| 16:02.03 | pastamancer | Silviu-: eek, that font on your unit frames hurts my eyes |
| 16:02.09 | Silviu- | mhh |
| 16:02.12 | Grum | seriously |
| 16:02.20 | Silviu- | pastamancer give me a more readable font ? |
| 16:02.20 | Grum | green on dark blue .... |
| 16:02.22 | Grum | A U C H |
| 16:02.25 | Grum | ABF ftw |
| 16:02.35 | Silviu- | Could try it out |
| 16:02.42 | Zergreth | Silviu-, thats a pretty weird interface @ the link you gave me |
| 16:02.49 | Grum | hehehe |
| 16:02.52 | Zergreth | how the f do i download something there |
| 16:02.52 | Zergreth | D: |
| 16:02.55 | Grum | everyone agrees therefor everyone is right ;D |
| 16:02.58 | pastamancer | Silviu-: how about Helvetica? |
| 16:03.01 | Silviu- | qq |
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| 16:03.14 | Matrix110| | the only thing that annoys me with Power Auras is pretty much that the textures still show after pressing Alt+Z (for screens etc.) but can live with that |
| 16:03.39 | Paene | Ace3 still in beta? |
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| 16:04.12 | Matrix110| | I think its in the pre release phase atm? |
| 16:04.15 | Matrix110| | but not sure |
| 16:04.42 | Fisker- | release candidated as far as i know |
| 16:04.46 | Fisker- | candidate* |
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| 16:06.59 | sica | Matrix110|: 2.5.1a should cover that problem |
| 16:07.23 | Matrix110| | it got updated Oo? |
| 16:07.35 | sica | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8579-PowerAurasClassic.html |
| 16:07.40 | sica | that's what I'm using |
| 16:07.49 | ben | How do I make parrot yell at me to use Overpower/Revenge? D: |
| 16:07.56 | Matrix110| | ah |
| 16:08.01 | Matrix110| | someone fixed it |
| 16:08.05 | Matrix110| | thanks |
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| 16:08.56 | Silviu- | pastamancer any links for Helvetica ? can`t seem to find it |
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| 16:09.23 | pastamancer | Silviu-: if you're on windows, MS Sans Serif is pretty close |
| 16:09.33 | Silviu- | Okay |
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| 16:10.45 | Zergreth | helvetica is commercial bullshit |
| 16:10.48 | Zergreth | no links to that |
| 16:10.56 | pastamancer | Silviu-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helvetica |
| 16:11.50 | sica | MS Comic Sans is THE Font! |
| 16:12.02 | pastamancer | stabs sica |
| 16:12.04 | Zergreth | nowai |
| 16:12.10 | Megalon | assists pastamancer |
| 16:12.27 | sica | :( |
| 16:12.28 | Zergreth | im in love with friz quadrata tt |
| 16:12.34 | Zergreth | im all for defaults |
| 16:14.01 | winkiller | who made files.wowace.com? it *really* need a link to the wiki for the addons. everytime you need info on it, it's copy/past hell |
| 16:14.14 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 16:14.15 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 16:14.17 | sag_ich_nicht | u wanna die |
| 16:14.21 | Zergreth | wha |
| 16:14.24 | Zergreth | info on what |
| 16:14.25 | Zergreth | addons? |
| 16:14.33 | Zergreth | if i download addons from files. i know what they do |
| 16:14.44 | Zergreth | delivering information is the forums' job |
| 16:14.48 | Zergreth | almost all the time atleast |
| 16:15.32 | NivFreak | NeoTron: Yea, I noticed safari renders WWS really fast |
| 16:15.36 | NivFreak | oh crap |
| 16:15.39 | NivFreak | scrolls down |
| 16:15.56 | Zergreth | roflmao |
| 16:16.00 | winkiller | Zergreth: when I browse it by category or name - just a small link to the wiki. |
| 16:16.14 | Zergreth | theres a link to the wiki main page somewhere at the top |
| 16:16.20 | winkiller | wowace.com/wiki/<name> I mean. |
| 16:16.37 | winkiller | if I browse addons I always doublecheck the wiki pages |
| 16:18.46 | sag_ich_nicht | winkiller |
| 16:18.48 | sag_ich_nicht | u wanna die |
| 16:18.51 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 16:18.54 | Kaelten | wonder who pinged me |
| 16:18.56 | Kaelten | g'morning guys |
| 16:19.10 | winkiller | heya |
| 16:19.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten: winkiller wants to die |
| 16:19.14 | winkiller | and I think it was me :P |
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| 16:20.02 | winkiller | a) is OneStorage still used? b) if I don't want to display OneBag, but have that char viewable via OneView . is that possible? |
| 16:21.27 | [Endeavour] | What does that mean: _, d, g, _, _,e = functionthatreturnssomevalues() does this mean i am only interested in d,g and e? |
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| 16:21.38 | pastamancer | yes |
| 16:21.40 | stew_a | it does |
| 16:21.44 | winkiller | looks like it |
| 16:22.03 | Zergreth | eww chatzilla |
| 16:22.07 | [Endeavour] | thanks |
| 16:22.07 | Zergreth | anyway, yes, it does exactly that |
| 16:22.15 | winkiller | missing this in php :/ |
| 16:22.21 | [Endeavour] | you don't like chatzilla? |
| 16:22.24 | Zergreth | nah |
| 16:22.30 | Zergreth | im in love with xchat |
| 16:22.37 | winkiller | eeeew xchat |
| 16:22.48 | [Endeavour] | why? features > ? |
| 16:22.51 | winkiller | let the flames begin :P |
| 16:23.22 | Zergreth | i dont like most stuff with version numbers below 1 |
| 16:23.22 | Zergreth | :f |
| 16:23.32 | [Endeavour] | :) |
| 16:23.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:23.38 | Zergreth | and xchat has some smexy features |
| 16:23.46 | [Endeavour] | examples? |
| 16:23.54 | Zergreth | replacement of short stuff |
| 16:23.55 | Zergreth | like |
| 16:23.56 | Zergreth | when i type |
| 16:23.58 | Zergreth | "w/e" |
| 16:24.00 | Zergreth | it replaces it with |
| 16:24.01 | Zergreth | whatever |
| 16:24.10 | Zergreth | i just added the quotes so it doesnt do that right now |
| 16:24.19 | [Endeavour] | hmm thats a nice feature |
| 16:24.24 | Vangual | w/e |
| 16:24.33 | Vangual | doesn't work :( |
| 16:24.37 | Zergreth | also, i have some buttons just next to the topic edit box that allow me to toggle some default channel modes like t, n, s or i |
| 16:24.54 | Zergreth | vangual, gotta use xchat so that works ;f |
| 16:25.01 | Zergreth | also, if you already do, you have to add it yourself |
| 16:25.01 | winkiller | I haven't toggled channel modes for like 5 years |
| 16:25.06 | Zergreth | "w/e" is not a default |
| 16:25.26 | winkiller | the replace indeed sounds nice, just that I never need it :P |
| 16:25.38 | Zergreth | ;P |
| 16:25.45 | winkiller | and to chatzilla: if I would like to have irc inside any app, I'd use emacs |
| 16:25.53 | Zergreth | can somebody explain me how i download stuff through that gay ass git thingy? :D |
| 16:26.28 | Zergreth | if you dunno what i mean, that -> http://ixo.no/git |
| 16:26.32 | Zergreth | i couldnt find anything useful |
| 16:27.00 | winkiller | git clone rep |
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| 16:27.12 | Zergreth | wha? |
| 16:27.16 | winkiller | sec |
| 16:27.43 | Zergreth | im all for minimalistic stuff, but not if its about application names or whatever |
| 16:27.44 | Zergreth | ._. |
| 16:27.44 | winkiller | git clone http://ixo.no/git/Butsu.git/ |
| 16:27.55 | Zergreth | o |
| 16:27.59 | Zergreth | so, ye, well |
| 16:28.00 | winkiller | hm, no :P |
| 16:28.30 | Zergreth | i know how that looks |
| 16:28.32 | Zergreth | doesnt help a bit |
| 16:28.32 | Zergreth | ;D |
| 16:28.43 | winkiller | well it should work, it just doesn't |
| 16:28.49 | Zergreth | ah |
| 16:28.52 | Zergreth | that explains kind a bit i guess |
| 16:28.55 | winkiller | I'm using git myself only for a week |
| 16:29.00 | Zergreth | i thought it was me being too dumb again |
| 16:29.06 | winkiller | sec |
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| 16:30.18 | winkiller | Zergreth: if you click on Butsu for example |
| 16:30.22 | winkiller | on the left there is |
| 16:30.23 | winkiller | clone: |
| 16:30.24 | winkiller | git://haste.ixo.no/Butsu.git |
| 16:30.37 | Zergreth | which shows up a 404 for me |
| 16:30.38 | Zergreth | D: |
| 16:30.43 | winkiller | git clone git://haste.ixo.no/Butsu.git works fine |
| 16:30.46 | winkiller | I just checked it out |
| 16:30.57 | Zergreth | meh |
| 16:31.04 | winkiller | http://ixo.no/git/Butsu.git/ there are the details |
| 16:31.17 | Funkeh` | nihilum got world first twins |
| 16:31.32 | winkiller | breaking news :P |
| 16:31.34 | exor674 | Funkeh`: what DOESN'T Nihilum get world first on? |
| 16:31.39 | stew_a | most of the sunwell |
| 16:31.43 | Funkeh` | the first 3 sunwell bosses |
| 16:31.44 | winkiller | exor674: the first 2 |
| 16:31.45 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 16:31.45 | winkiller | *3 |
| 16:32.13 | Stanzilla | they raided 14hours yesterday and 4 hours today.. |
| 16:32.17 | charon | Zergreth: you need git -- http://git.or.cz/ -- to fetch that stuff, browser won't work.... |
| 16:32.25 | Zergreth | ah |
| 16:32.28 | Zergreth | good to know |
| 16:32.32 | Zergreth | didnt you help me out before? ;D |
| 16:32.39 | winkiller | thought that was clear >< |
| 16:32.40 | haste | you can download it directly without git |
| 16:32.52 | Zergreth | winkiller, not really |
| 16:32.54 | Zergreth | haste, how so? |
| 16:32.57 | haste | http://ixo.no/git/Butsu.git/snapshot/Butsu-master.zip |
| 16:33.16 | Zergreth | and how the fuck am i supposed to figure that out? |
| 16:33.17 | Zergreth | o.O |
| 16:33.26 | haste | butsu -> commit -> download |
| 16:33.35 | Zergreth | oh |
| 16:33.36 | Zergreth | hah |
| 16:33.39 | Zergreth | guess i overlooked something |
| 16:33.42 | Zergreth | ehm, well |
| 16:33.43 | Zergreth | thanks |
| 16:33.43 | Zergreth | :D |
| 16:33.50 | CIA-39 | 03wesslen * r68943 10PitBull_LifebloomBar/ (LifebloomBar.lua PitBull_LifebloomBar.toc): |
| 16:33.50 | CIA-39 | PitBull_LifebloomBar |
| 16:33.50 | CIA-39 | - Fixed bar not always hiding when it should |
| 16:33.51 | haste | you can also go to butsu -> log -> entry -> download |
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| 16:34.08 | charon | winkiller: watch out. first you try git, then you use it, and next thing you know, you'll hate svn's limitations and expect everyone to use git instead |
| 16:34.19 | charon | (it's happened to me already) |
| 16:34.19 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.21 | winkiller | charon: already that far |
| 16:34.31 | winkiller | I made 20 local commits yesterday |
| 16:34.35 | winkiller | and it rocks :P |
| 16:34.48 | Zergreth | well, atleast i now know that there are still shitty interfaces out there, where you just dont find what you need |
| 16:34.57 | Zergreth | i thought there arent any more after i left yahoo.com |
| 16:35.06 | Fisker- | haha |
| 16:35.10 | Fisker- | if you can't have babies you're a man |
| 16:35.36 | Funkeh` | orly |
| 16:35.41 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:35.43 | Funkeh` | where does it say that einstein |
| 16:36.02 | charon | wts broken logic that overlooks corner cases |
| 16:36.23 | Fisker- | NOES pastamancer |
| 16:36.30 | Fisker- | Funkeh` south park :o |
| 16:36.52 | Funkeh` | Yeah, since south park frequently state facts of the day |
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| 16:37.09 | Fisker- | yeah because sarcasm doesn't exist |
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| 16:37.38 | charon | while we're at it, also wts 'svn merge -c 68814 http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Omen/charon' that didn't make it into trunk yet :( |
| 16:37.40 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, it's not so much about sarcasm, ubt crossing the line between it |
| 16:38.26 | Zergreth | btw, got another minor problem, but i would like that fixed anyway |
| 16:38.33 | pastamancer | Fisker-: does that mean you won't be having my babies after all? |
| 16:38.34 | Zergreth | im german, so also using the german client |
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| 16:38.53 | Zergreth | so some strings include ä, ö or ü |
| 16:38.56 | CIA-39 | 03hegarol * r68944 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 16:38.56 | CIA-39 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 16:38.56 | CIA-39 | - Sunwell update |
| 16:39.15 | Zergreth | and everytime i pull the substring out of those, for example some unit name including one of those chars |
| 16:39.23 | Zergreth | they are getting fucked up and replaced with ? |
| 16:39.26 | Zergreth | any ideas? |
| 16:39.44 | Fisker- | yeah pastamancer :o |
| 16:39.48 | pastamancer | Zergreth: the joys of utf8 |
| 16:40.01 | Zergreth | it only happens when i modify those strings |
| 16:40.08 | Zergreth | i know how you avoid that when creating new ones |
| 16:40.10 | pastamancer | Zergreth: http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/UTF8/utf8.lua |
| 16:40.15 | Zergreth | but how the fuck am i supposed to figure out |
| 16:40.16 | Zergreth | err |
| 16:40.18 | Fisker- | what did you do grid that messed up the layout? |
| 16:40.32 | Zergreth | woah |
| 16:40.34 | Zergreth | that looks sexy |
| 16:40.38 | Zergreth | fuckin thank you |
| 16:40.40 | pastamancer | Fisker-: how so? |
| 16:41.03 | pastamancer | Zergreth: I had to do it for grid since I truncate text based on number of characters |
| 16:41.19 | Zergreth | hehe |
| 16:41.24 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastebin.com/m7cce3491 <--this is my code(ignore that pastebin broke the CSS on lines 44/45, it's 1 line). this is the bug: http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drecksie2nr8.jpg (text flowing out of the right side) help me please? D: |
| 16:42.04 | Zergreth | sag_ich_nicht, throw your computer out of your window? |
| 16:42.08 | Zergreth | always helped me in the past |
| 16:42.13 | Zergreth | and stop uploading images on imageshack |
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| 16:42.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Zergreth QQ |
| 16:42.39 | Zergreth | actually, you should take the imageshack thing seriously |
| 16:43.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i normally upload to my own webspace |
| 16:43.04 | sag_ich_nicht | and why? |
| 16:43.08 | Zergreth | imageshack is slow |
| 16:43.16 | Zergreth | and if you upload there, atleast provide the direct link |
| 16:43.27 | Bruners | imageshack.us is the slowest page known to man |
| 16:43.28 | Zergreth | an even better option is uploading to www.xs.to |
| 16:43.39 | Zergreth | ^ |
| 16:43.46 | Zergreth | this man knows what hes saying |
| 16:44.36 | [Endeavour] | what's wrong with the UNIT_MANA event? got replaced in 2.4? |
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| 16:46.39 | Vulcanus | sag_ich_nicht: I think there's something like whitespace: word-wrap; in CSS |
| 16:47.24 | Fisker- | pastamancer grid was like half the size it used to be and misplaced |
| 16:47.25 | Zergreth | hey pastamancer |
| 16:47.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Vulcanus: i know, but that doesn't help :) |
| 16:47.27 | jrcub | hi, i'm just making my way into coding with wowace. Could it be the ZONE_CHANGE event doesn't work like explained in the tutorial or wowwiki is not up to date? |
| 16:47.31 | Zergreth | check yer query |
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| 16:48.28 | CIA-39 | 03wesslen * r68945 10RatingBuster/ (RatingBuster-Locale-enUS.lua RatingBuster.lua): |
| 16:48.28 | CIA-39 | RatingBuster |
| 16:48.28 | CIA-39 | - Nurturing Instinct Str->Agi fixes (needs localization) |
| 16:48.34 | Vulcanus | is it in a <div> that has a set width? (percent or pixels) |
| 16:48.46 | pastamancer | Fisker-: no idea, maybe you're using a different profile than normal? |
| 16:49.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:48] <Vulcanus> is it in a <div> that has a set width? (percent or pixels) <--uhm, i pastey the damn code |
| 16:49.25 | sag_ich_nicht | and no the width isn't set |
| 16:49.27 | sag_ich_nicht | that's intentional |
| 16:49.32 | Vulcanus | only just logged out of WoW and saw this, sue me :p |
| 16:49.41 | sag_ich_nicht | scroll up to nn:41 |
| 16:49.47 | Fisker- | not what i know of pastamancer |
| 16:50.04 | pastamancer | *shrug* |
| 16:50.08 | Vulcanus | but why is there no width set? if you want it to be liquid you should use % |
| 16:50.11 | Fisker- | only thing was that i logged in with: |
| 16:50.11 | Zergreth | sag_ich_nicht, if you can upload that somewhere where it loads for me, i might be able to help you D: |
| 16:50.12 | Fisker- | [2008/04/10 18:35:52-3494-x1]: Grid-68458\GridLayout.lua:822: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 16:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Zergreth http://pastebin.com/m7cce3491 is not working for you? |
| 16:50.41 | Zergreth | oh, that is, infact |
| 16:50.47 | Zergreth | i thought the pic is part of your problem |
| 16:50.50 | sag_ich_nicht | facepalm |
| 16:50.52 | sag_ich_nicht | it shows the problem |
| 16:50.53 | Zergreth | :D |
| 16:51.00 | Zergreth | well |
| 16:51.02 | Zergreth | thats what i meant |
| 16:51.06 | Zergreth | wont load the pic for me |
| 16:51.09 | Zergreth | imageshack is slow |
| 16:51.15 | sag_ich_nicht | QQ |
| 16:51.25 | pastamancer | Fisker-: sounds like your layout doesn't exist |
| 16:51.27 | Zergreth | just upload it somewhere else? |
| 16:51.31 | Vulcanus | the imageshack image loaded instant for me |
| 16:51.35 | Zergreth | o.O |
| 16:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | the problem is the divtag going out of the screen to the right |
| 16:51.40 | Zergreth | ah |
| 16:51.43 | sag_ich_nicht | instead of ending/wrapping there |
| 16:51.45 | sag_ich_nicht | like it should |
| 16:51.56 | Zergreth | first or second? or both? |
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| 16:52.06 | sag_ich_nicht | second, the first one has a fixed width :P |
| 16:52.18 | Zergreth | saw it, yea |
| 16:52.26 | Zergreth | well, easy |
| 16:52.28 | Zergreth | try doing this |
| 16:52.30 | jrcub | hi, i'm just making my way into coding with wowace. Could it be the ZONE_CHANGE event doesn't work like explained in the tutorial or wowwiki is not up to date? |
| 16:52.32 | Zergreth | width: 100%; |
| 16:52.40 | Zergreth | in the css class |
| 16:52.42 | Zergreth | that should do it |
| 16:52.59 | ANTRat | hi |
| 16:53.06 | ANTRat | ah wrong window |
| 16:53.09 | ANTRat | ...hi anyway |
| 16:53.28 | Zergreth | hi :P |
| 16:53.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Zergreth: nope |
| 16:53.39 | Zergreth | hm, doesnt? |
| 16:53.42 | Zergreth | now thats weird |
| 16:53.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 16:53.56 | sag_ich_nicht | IE sucks |
| 16:54.06 | Zergreth | i totally agree |
| 16:54.08 | Zergreth | :D |
| 16:54.33 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 16:54.34 | Fisker- | also |
| 16:54.42 | Zergreth | well, you could try adding that width thingy to the <p> tag |
| 16:54.54 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck that |
| 16:55.25 | CIA-39 | 03paene * r68946 10Cryolysis2/core/mounts.lua: |
| 16:55.25 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 16:55.25 | CIA-39 | - Fixed Swift White Hawkstrider mount |
| 16:57.15 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 16:57.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Zergreth even if i comment out the whole text |
| 16:57.25 | sag_ich_nicht | it still expands forever |
| 16:57.33 | Zergreth | mh |
| 16:57.36 | sag_ich_nicht | (just the border, empty) |
| 16:57.39 | Zergreth | does that happen in every browser? |
| 16:57.55 | Xinhuan | any french translaters here? what is "Meta Socket" in french? |
| 16:57.59 | Paene | Anyone know if the Ace3 version of ag_UF still works? |
| 16:58.05 | [eu]gunder | Méta-gemme |
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| 16:58.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Zergreth: only IE |
| 16:58.10 | Olison | Paene: it does :) |
| 16:58.14 | Xinhuan | i mean the socket |
| 16:58.15 | Xinhuan | not the gem |
| 16:58.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and it expands exactly by my horzontal resolution |
| 16:58.18 | Paene | excellent! |
| 16:58.29 | Xinhuan | the text on a helm's empty meta socket |
| 16:58.29 | [eu]gunder | 30 sec I'm checking IG |
| 16:58.38 | Olison | Though, pet happyness doesn't update from unhappy->happy :< |
| 16:58.56 | [eu]gunder | Méta-chasse iirc (i'm checking) |
| 16:59.00 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 16:59.10 | Zergreth | sag_ich_nicht, did you try removing the position attribute? |
| 16:59.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Zergreth: then IE shits itself |
| 16:59.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and does a WAY worse bug |
| 17:00.12 | sag_ich_nicht | http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drecksievf9.jpg <--which would be this one |
| 17:00.26 | [eu]gunder | Xinhuan: "Méta-châsse" |
| 17:00.30 | Zergreth | that image works |
| 17:00.30 | sag_ich_nicht | but yes, then it wraps correctly. |
| 17:00.30 | Zergreth | w00t |
| 17:00.33 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:00.47 | Xinhuan | lua> strfind("Méta-châsse", "Méta-châsse") |
| 17:00.48 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'strfind' (a nil value) |
| 17:00.53 | Xinhuan | lua> string.find("Méta-châsse", "Méta-châsse") |
| 17:00.53 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: nil |
| 17:00.56 | Zergreth | well, i seriously have no idea how to fix this |
| 17:00.58 | Zergreth | sorry D: |
| 17:00.59 | Xinhuan | hmmm? |
| 17:01.11 | Xinhuan | why does that fail |
| 17:01.13 | Zergreth | ive seen lots of problems with css/html and IE, but this is weird |
| 17:01.20 | Xinhuan | lua> string.find("abc", "abc") |
| 17:01.20 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 3 |
| 17:01.58 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = "Méta-châsse" print(string.find(a, a)) |
| 17:01.59 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: nil |
| 17:02.09 | Xinhuan | lua> local a = "Méta-châsse" print(string.find(a, a, 1, true)) |
| 17:02.09 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 13 |
| 17:02.12 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 17:02.31 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: possibly an encoding issue with the bot? |
| 17:02.44 | Xinhuan | its giving me the same results in game, apparantly, for a french client |
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| 17:03.27 | [eu]gunder | Xinhuan: é = \195\169 and â = \195\162 |
| 17:03.37 | [eu]gunder | utf encoding |
| 17:03.50 | Xinhuan | lua> for string.gmatch("Méta-châsse", ".", function(a) print(string.byte(a)) end) |
| 17:03.50 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: '=' or 'in' expected near '.' |
| 17:04.18 | sag_ich_nicht | for string.gmatch("M\195\169ta-ch\195\162sse", ".", function(a) print(string.byte(a)) end) |
| 17:04.21 | sag_ich_nicht | argh |
| 17:04.24 | sag_ich_nicht | lua> for string.gmatch("M\195\169ta-ch\195\162sse", ".", function(a) print(string.byte(a)) end) |
| 17:04.24 | lua_bot | sag_ich_nicht: luabot:1: '=' or 'in' expected near '.' |
| 17:04.28 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome! |
| 17:04.35 | Xinhuan | lua> for k, v in string.gmatch("Méta-châsse", ".") do print(string.byte(k)) end |
| 17:04.36 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 77, 195, 169, 116, 97, 45, 99, 104, 195, 162, 115, 115, 101 |
| 17:05.00 | Xinhuan | so string.find can't work properly on utf8 strings? |
| 17:05.06 | Xinhuan | unless 4th input is true? |
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| 17:05.52 | Fisker- | i need java people omg |
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| 17:06.13 | [eu]gunder | lua>string.find("M\195\169ta-ch\195\162sse", "M\195\169ta-ch\195\162sse") |
| 17:06.14 | lua_bot | [eu]gunder: nil |
| 17:07.38 | CIA-39 | 03xinhuan * r68947 10WoWEquip/WoWEquip.lua: WoWEquip: - Commit a small change that might help French clients fix the meta gems menu from not showing up. |
| 17:08.28 | Xinhuan | lua>string.find("M\195\169ta-ch\195\162sse", "M\195\169ta-ch\195\162sse", 1, true) |
| 17:08.28 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 13 |
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| 17:11.56 | Fisker- | i hate blizzarfd |
| 17:11.58 | Fisker- | blizzard |
| 17:12.08 | Fisker- | for some reason settings are now permasaved here |
| 17:12.42 | Olison | is Tuller on irc? |
| 17:12.43 | Dashkal | ? |
| 17:13.08 | Grum | ~seen tuller |
| 17:13.09 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16h 2m 57s ago, saying: 'well, the standard nowish is to use the interface panel'. |
| 17:13.25 | Olison | oh! :D |
| 17:13.26 | Dashkal | ewwww |
| 17:13.34 | Coldphoenix | Gagorian think you could fix itemvalue_drdamage if your around |
| 17:13.36 | Coldphoenix | ItemValue_DrDamage-1.4.0\CasterSet.lua:266: attempt to call method 'GetSpellInfo' (a nil value) |
| 17:14.43 | Olison | Well, anybody knows how to access a button on bongos3 with the /click command in a macro? |
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| 17:15.16 | Fisker- | lolwut @ spellid 32123 |
| 17:15.30 | dylanm | Olison: The names are like Bongos3ActionButton1 and so on. |
| 17:15.41 | Olison | ahok ty dylanm |
| 17:19.20 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r68948 10DaHud/ (8 files in 5 dirs): |
| 17:19.20 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 17:19.20 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.20 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.05 | keiss | umm when logging in during battle with Grid it now shows the raid + party (e.g. one group twice) seems like a bug to me |
| 17:23.42 | keiss | a /rl fixes it |
| 17:23.47 | Azurewrath | mhm, files.wowace.com down? |
| 17:24.02 | stew_a | argh why cant wowhead/thott/everyone else make tooltip js that works for item names too >.< |
| 17:24.17 | Azurewrath | ah, reachable again |
| 17:24.47 | pastamancer | keiss: that's intended because if you log in during combat, you get put into combat before grid knows if you're in a raid or not |
| 17:24.49 | Dashkal | item names are ambigious |
| 17:25.33 | pastamancer | return the first match, let people use the id if the first match isn't the right one |
| 17:25.38 | keiss | pastamancer: the problem is that it moves the frame , and after a /rl it shows only the raid (OK) , but the whole frame is moved up by one line |
| 17:25.50 | NivFreak | stew_a: eh? |
| 17:26.01 | NivFreak | stew_a: pretty sure they do |
| 17:26.10 | keiss | pastamancer: and yeah before it was 'wrong' too , but now its not better imo :) |
| 17:26.11 | pastamancer | keiss: moved up by one line? can you give screenshots? |
| 17:26.37 | stew_a | do they? one's i've seen only do regexps looking for links with itemids in and ignore item names |
| 17:27.01 | keiss | pastamancer: i have the grid on the bottom edge , and when there one more group/line after the login , it has to move the frame up, but it doesnt move it back down after the group line is gone (after the /rl) |
| 17:27.07 | Gagorian | Coldphoenix: Well I could but it's not my addon so.. |
| 17:27.19 | pastamancer | keiss: change your anchor point for the frame |
| 17:27.30 | keiss | pastamancer: ah ok |
| 17:27.38 | pastamancer | it's in layout -> advanced |
| 17:29.15 | Fisker- | http://i27.tinypic.com/1zefrs1.jpg |
| 17:29.16 | Fisker- | I HATE YOU |
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| 17:31.06 | ben | Does Parrot still have the thing where it yells REVENGE when I block an attack? |
| 17:31.27 | chiper | fisker: you mean how blizzard still hasn't fixed that bug with remembering settings? |
| 17:31.35 | Mudkipz | oh WoW I kinda miss you |
| 17:31.55 | Chaud | wtf is this =\ |
| 17:31.59 | Mudkipz | my harem must be lonely and confused |
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| 17:32.13 | Chaud | I frapes some skirmishes to examine proximo castbars and got this http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6971/castaccbo8.jpg |
| 17:32.20 | Chaud | all from the same frame of the video |
| 17:33.55 | Fisker- | actually chiper it's suppod to remember per session |
| 17:34.01 | Fisker- | but for some reason it's just forced now |
| 17:35.01 | chiper | per session? what? |
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| 17:35.17 | Fisker- | it's supposed to remember your settings the whole session |
| 17:35.25 | Fisker- | i.e. until you relog |
| 17:35.30 | Fisker- | and probably until you reload as well |
| 17:35.36 | chiper | and forget them the instant I log out? wtf is the point of that? |
| 17:35.37 | Chaud | FISKER WHY IS PROXIMO'S CASTBAR OFF =( |
| 17:35.46 | Fisker- | it's a bug chiper |
| 17:35.56 | chiper | damn right it is |
| 17:36.01 | Fisker- | your mother Chaud |
| 17:36.13 | Fisker- | your point chiper ? |
| 17:36.22 | keiss | Elsia: would it be possible to filter out dmg done in spirit form on gorefiend ? |
| 17:36.32 | chiper | I'm not sure. it sounded like you were defending the bug |
| 17:36.38 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:36.46 | Elsia | hmm the spirit isN't a pet is it? |
| 17:36.51 | keiss | it is |
| 17:37.03 | Fisker- | i'm saying i have another bug that for some reason just ignores my settings |
| 17:37.09 | chiper | ah |
| 17:37.12 | Elsia | then right click the pet and delete it |
| 17:37.36 | keiss | ah ok thx |
| 17:38.00 | Chaud | wtf they don't work right at all =\ |
| 17:38.04 | Fisker- | which is annoying me |
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| 17:38.21 | Fisker- | i'm beginning to think it was hotfixed to set it that way from the server |
| 17:38.25 | Fisker- | if that's even possible |
| 17:38.47 | Chaud | I sheep the priest, carbar keeps going and finishes the cast even though it was interrupted 1.2sec ago |
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| 17:40.01 | Fisker- | man |
| 17:40.14 | Fisker- | Ace2 is for some reason using 8MiB now |
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| 17:40.25 | Fisker- | i wonder what addon caused it :( |
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| 17:43.30 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/tlffko4em51vs?s=13205-13532 (the duration, thus raid DPS, says 5:26, but the tanks died almost exactyl at 5) |
| 17:43.59 | NivFreak | NeoTron: 22 trys |
| 17:43.59 | NivFreak | wow |
| 17:44.03 | NivFreak | you guys are troopers |
| 17:44.08 | Pkekyo| | SECKS |
| 17:44.38 | NeoTron | we've had 45 so far |
| 17:44.49 | NivFreak | how long was that raid? |
| 17:45.12 | NeoTron | 4 hrs |
| 17:45.21 | NeoTron | there's a total of 7 trash mobs to clear |
| 17:45.24 | NeoTron | whcih we cleared twice |
| 17:45.31 | NivFreak | ah, not bad |
| 17:45.45 | NeoTron | and we started like 20m late too |
| 17:45.50 | NeoTron | so it was really less than 4 hrs active |
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| 17:49.45 | CIA-39 | 037destiny * r68949 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: koKR Update |
| 17:52.57 | CIA-39 | 03xbeeps * r68950 10BunchOfBars/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: |
| 17:52.57 | CIA-39 | BunchOfBars: |
| 17:52.57 | CIA-39 | - Fix the problem with the VisualHeal bar not aligning properly with the health |
| 17:52.57 | CIA-39 | bar at all times. This was caused by the update function no longer being hooked |
| 17:52.57 | CIA-39 | on the health bar update function, which means that the health bar update |
| 17:52.58 | CIA-39 | function is not guaranteed to run before the VisualHeal bar update function. |
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| 17:53.13 | Chaud | Is sending the current cast time of your target to your party for proximo practical for making a somewhat accurate bar so far as pushback / interrrupts goes? |
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| 17:56.07 | Aiiane | i'd think relative latencies would make that impractical, Chaud |
| 17:56.30 | Chaud | =\ |
| 17:56.39 | Chaud | the current bars are pretty awful |
| 17:57.18 | Chaud | ~1sec off for my target sometimes |
| 17:58.51 | FtH|Daemona | Antiarc how does mobspells determine if something is dispellable? aswell as deleting a mob from the list triggers these errors -> http://ace.pastey.net/85471 |
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| 18:00.16 | CIA-39 | 03xinhuan * r68951 10Cartographer_Routes/ (. Cartographer_Routes.toc Core.lua embeds.xml): |
| 18:00.16 | CIA-39 | Cartographer_Routes: Get rid of LibBabbleSpell-3.0 dependency in an attempt to fix loading errors that people are reporting to be Cartographer errors. |
| 18:00.16 | CIA-39 | IMPORTANT NOTICE: This addon is no longer being actively supported. Please delete Cartographer_Routes and download Routes instead. It has better/newer features. |
| 18:00.44 | Julith | Daemona: by evaluating the "DISPELLED" event |
| 18:00.49 | CIA-39 | 03next96 * r68952 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 18:00.49 | CIA-39 | RatingBuster: |
| 18:00.49 | CIA-39 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 18:04.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 18:04.11 | sag_ich_nicht | the blacklist doesn't work |
| 18:04.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i have thousands of scarabs |
| 18:05.14 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel :O |
| 18:05.19 | Megalon | Xinhuan: WoWEuip lists Melee Haste Rating at the Equipment stats, but does not list it under Derived stats with the corresponding %, but it does vor every other rating |
| 18:05.23 | nevcairiel | forgets sag_ich_nicht in the desert. awww |
| 18:05.36 | Xinhuan | that's because nothing actually can modify your melee haste rating |
| 18:05.38 | kadrahil | does anyone play wow or other pc games with a wireless mouse? |
| 18:05.51 | kadrahil | my microsoft wired mouse is going dead and i need a new one :S |
| 18:05.56 | Xinhuan | meaning whatever is in Equipment Stats, will just be the same value in Derived Stats |
| 18:06.04 | Xinhuan | so i didn't bother calculating anything |
| 18:06.42 | Xinhuan | you will notice that all the ratings don't get copied to derived |
| 18:06.56 | Xinhuan | but some of them affect the derived, such as crit% |
| 18:07.24 | CIA-39 | 037destiny * r68953 10Incubator/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 18:07.24 | CIA-39 | Incubator: |
| 18:07.24 | CIA-39 | - koKR Update |
| 18:07.33 | Xinhuan | (p.s. can someone update closetgnome not to use libbabblespell-3.0?) |
| 18:07.55 | Vulcanus | kadrahil, wireless mouse for gaming is like randomly disconnecting your mouse from your computer for no apparent reason |
| 18:08.41 | Vulcanus | I used to have a logitech wireless keyboard optical + its companion mouse, having to change rechargeables every 5 days sucks |
| 18:08.50 | Xinhuan | i'm looking at you vhaarr :) |
| 18:08.58 | Vulcanus | G5 mouse + G15 keyboard, never looked back |
| 18:10.43 | _rane | G5 mouse, 9 months -> breaks |
| 18:11.09 | FtH|Daemona | Julith well testing with priest dispel and mage cleanse led to "not dispellable |
| 18:11.30 | pastamancer | I like my MX518 |
| 18:11.37 | mikma | i like yours too |
| 18:11.37 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: crypt scarabs, thousands, in my threat-2.0 |
| 18:11.48 | nevcairiel | yeah they are everywhere |
| 18:11.50 | pastamancer | hugs mikma |
| 18:11.53 | nevcairiel | damn beetles |
| 18:12.00 | _rane | i bought mx518 few months back |
| 18:12.10 | _rane | better than G5 |
| 18:12.39 | pastamancer | 10.5 still won't let me remap the sensitivity buttons like I can on windows, but that's not a big deal |
| 18:13.00 | Chaud | http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36848/113/ |
| 18:13.30 | Julith | what did you dispell? a debuff at a friendly player or a buff at a mob? |
| 18:13.54 | Julith | i think at the moment it only recognizes dispells of buffs at mobs |
| 18:14.00 | Zergreth | is there any tool or whatever that compares two textfiles and shows the differences? |
| 18:14.12 | pastamancer | diff |
| 18:14.23 | NeoTron | oh. my. god. |
| 18:14.28 | CIA-39 | 03xinhuan * r68954 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (FuBar_LocationFu.toc LocationFu.lua libs/): FuBar_LocationFu: Get rid of LibBabbleSpell-3.0 dependency. |
| 18:14.29 | NeoTron | on our best brutallus attempt I forgot to sac my pet |
| 18:14.34 | CIA-39 | 03stormfx * r68955 10ButtonFacade/docs/Template.lua: |
| 18:14.34 | CIA-39 | ButtonFacade: |
| 18:14.34 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.36 | Zergreth | roflmao |
| 18:14.44 | nevcairiel | lua> format("%06X", 17967) |
| 18:14.44 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
| 18:14.49 | nevcairiel | lua> string.format("%06X", 17967) |
| 18:14.49 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 00462F |
| 18:14.59 | NeoTron | With pet > 3rd dmg, without pet => 12th |
| 18:15.19 | FtH|Daemona | Julith it lists a boss ability that is not dispellable as dispellable;) |
| 18:15.41 | CIA-39 | 03cronan * r68956 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 18:15.41 | CIA-39 | BigBrother: |
| 18:15.41 | CIA-39 | - koKR update |
| 18:15.45 | Julith | ahh, a buff or a debuff? or what is that spell? |
| 18:15.54 | Dark_Elf | http://www.download.com/ExamDiff/3000-2248_4-10059626.html - a good file compare utility |
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| 18:18.06 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 18:18.11 | sag_ich_nicht | one of our locks is being a cunt |
| 18:18.17 | sag_ich_nicht | and using curse of doom instead of recklessness |
| 18:18.18 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 18:18.20 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: doesnt seem to be a error in the code |
| 18:18.28 | FtH|Daemona | Julith spellid 46771 |
| 18:20.19 | Julith | which boss? |
| 18:21.50 | CIA-39 | 03xinhuan * r68957 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.toc embeds.xml): WoWEquip: - Remove Babble and BabbleSpell dependencies since StatLogicLib no longer has them as dependencies (since 2 days ago). |
| 18:22.19 | Julith | or someone tell where i can get the spell from the spellid :) |
| 18:22.27 | Megalon | Julith: Eredar twins i'd guess ;) |
| 18:22.33 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=46771 |
| 18:23.09 | CIA-39 | 03rodrick * r68958 10NazGuildRecruiter/Core.lua: |
| 18:23.09 | CIA-39 | NazGuildRecruiter: |
| 18:23.09 | CIA-39 | - fixed sign |
| 18:23.59 | CIA-39 | 03xinhuan * r68959 10WoWEquip/: WoWEquip: - Remove LibBabbleSpell-2.2 from externals too. |
| 18:24.38 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: well i doublechecked everyone |
| 18:24.42 | sag_ich_nicht | everyone has the latest version |
| 18:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | except for one mage who has no omen installed at all |
| 18:25.01 | sag_ich_nicht | (his computer is kind of fsck'd so he can't use any addons atm :X) |
| 18:25.16 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, there's only 1 spell rank of Innervate right? |
| 18:25.23 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:25.37 | sag_ich_nicht | also someone fix Demon |
| 18:25.49 | sag_ich_nicht | it's tracking Thunderclap improperly |
| 18:26.04 | Xinhuan | got the spellID? |
| 18:26.25 | nevcairiel | 29166 |
| 18:26.43 | Xinhuan | do you use closetgnome_switcher? |
| 18:26.52 | Xinhuan | local drink = Babble["Drink"] |
| 18:26.52 | Xinhuan | local food = Babble["Food"] |
| 18:26.54 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 18:27.02 | Xinhuan | i dont' think i can convert those to spellIDs? |
| 18:27.10 | Xinhuan | or is it? |
| 18:27.23 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30024 |
| 18:27.34 | Julith | hmm, I wonder how this could happen since debuffs aren't tracked right now. To be tracked it whould have to be at a mob... |
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| 18:27.39 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=6410 |
| 18:27.49 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: there's plenty of spells with those names |
| 18:27.58 | Xinhuan | but many spells are "Drink" right? so any of them would do? |
| 18:28.14 | pastamancer | should |
| 18:28.24 | NeoTron | so the lock infernal does some 200 dps |
| 18:28.31 | Xinhuan | Babble = nil |
| 18:28.31 | NeoTron | if it just didn't have a 1 hr cooldown |
| 18:28.35 | Xinhuan | lol what a waste |
| 18:28.43 | NeoTron | it would actually have a use |
| 18:28.44 | Xinhuan | 2 translations used only |
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| 18:29.48 | WatchoutX | hi there :) |
| 18:31.59 | Zergreth | hm |
| 18:32.05 | Zergreth | anybody using flagrsp2 here? |
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| 18:34.46 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r68960 10DaHud/modules/Buffs/Core.lua: |
| 18:34.46 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 18:34.46 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.05 | kergoth | ~lart Benumbed |
| 18:37.05 | purl | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Benumbed!" and lops off Benumbed's head |
| 18:37.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:18] <nevcairiel> sag_ich_nicht: doesnt seem to be a error in the code <--just made a damn screenshot of it WITH versioncheck |
| 18:37.20 | sag_ich_nicht | so SOMETHING has to be doing it |
| 18:37.20 | Delorala | Omen doesn't aggroreset on Nightbane (deDE - just killed him) |
| 18:37.24 | Julith | Daemona: totally clueless, if I had to say something I whoudl say that the spell (46771) is actually able to dispell other spells :) |
| 18:37.34 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: maybe it's a localization problem |
| 18:37.37 | Julith | or something really weird happened |
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| 18:40.19 | CIA-39 | 03tornhoof * r68961 10Yata/ (6 files): |
| 18:40.19 | CIA-39 | Yata: |
| 18:40.19 | CIA-39 | - Removed dependency for BabbleSpell, thanks to dafi for providing patch |
| 18:40.47 | Delorala | in case noone noticed^^ Omen 68842 didnt reset aggro at all @ nightbane ... |
| 18:42.56 | dafi | dam it's daf, silent i >< |
| 18:43.27 | Benumbed | kergoth, you rang? |
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| 18:44.39 | kergoth | "BugFIx" is a crappy commit message :P |
| 18:44.50 | Benumbed | yeah well i knew what i meant! |
| 18:45.15 | Benumbed | didnt feel like saying "I am a dumbass and didnt reset something" |
| 18:45.48 | Industrial | well you are |
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| 18:45.51 | Industrial | (just kidding) |
| 18:46.01 | Benumbed | yes, yes i am |
| 18:46.07 | Benumbed | but see, i didnt feel like saying that |
| 18:46.08 | WatchoutX | commit messages are normally not for you but for the other |
| 18:46.35 | chdst | My favorite commit message "Diff it if you care so much, asshole!" |
| 18:46.36 | CIA-39 | 03xinhuan * r68962 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (8 files in 3 dirs): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Remove LibBabbleSpell-3.0 dependency, embeds and externals. |
| 18:46.45 | WatchoutX | hehe |
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| 18:47.29 | Xinhuan | yes, no more addons of mine use LibBabbleSpell!!! |
| 18:47.29 | WatchoutX | Say, about GridFrame.lua, the method GridFrame_OnLoad was changed to *_Initialize, does anyone know if this will be permanent? |
| 18:47.32 | CIA-39 | 03danielbarron * r68963 10RaidBuffStatus/ (6 files): |
| 18:47.32 | CIA-39 | RaidBuffStatus: |
| 18:47.32 | CIA-39 | - Added Spanish translations by Tanagra on Kul Tiras Europe server. |
| 18:47.32 | CIA-39 | - Added French translations by Veve CDO EU Server. |
| 18:47.32 | CIA-39 | - Fixed bug causing error when other addons check talents. |
| 18:47.33 | CIA-39 | - Added zhTW translations. Actually someone ninja added it to SVN not me. |
| 18:49.25 | WatchoutX | change was made by jerry apparently, don't know if he's online using a different nick |
| 18:49.27 | Tornhoof | yes dafi, thanks for the patch, for some reason i can't query you (identified to non identified apparently does not work) |
| 18:50.00 | dafi | i only registered yesterday to msg you |
| 18:50.05 | dafi | fairly new around here |
| 18:50.18 | dafi | still have that fresh meat smell |
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| 18:56.42 | NeoTron | anyone have a 2H MS warrior WWS from brutallus I could glance at? |
| 18:57.16 | kagaro | durcyn: ping |
| 18:57.23 | durcyn | kagaro: pong |
| 18:57.50 | kagaro | ive got a Talsimonger ready to commit without babble-spell, but all the rof modules need change as well |
| 18:58.07 | kagaro | *prof |
| 18:58.15 | durcyn | should be able to just revert them |
| 18:58.24 | kagaro | no, not really |
| 18:58.42 | durcyn | the prof modules' use of BS was minimal, tbh |
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| 18:59.01 | kagaro | they assmed the data coming in was in english |
| 18:59.12 | durcyn | oh, bollocks. |
| 18:59.20 | NeoTron | assumption: When a warrior uses SLAM you need to time it to avoid cutting auto attack, just like hunters + autoshoot? |
| 18:59.25 | kagaro | ala spells they are watchign for were the english names .. I need to add spell ids to them |
| 18:59.31 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Correct |
| 18:59.40 | NeoTron | I think that is the main isuse of our dps warrior |
| 18:59.50 | NeoTron | I think he cut out as much as 20% of his white dmage with slam |
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| 19:02.53 | Xinhuan | lua> math.mod |
| 19:02.53 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: nil |
| 19:02.57 | Xinhuan | lua> math.fmod, mod |
| 19:02.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: function: 0x62f230, nil |
| 19:03.05 | durcyn | kagaro: are you planning on just adding a return with spellID, or changing the existing return? |
| 19:03.06 | [eu]gunder | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/85475 |
| 19:03.30 | kagaro | im having talismonger return the localized spell name |
| 19:03.44 | durcyn | okay, that's doable too |
| 19:04.41 | kagaro | the only spot in the prof modules is the Talismonger_Node event handler that need to worry about it |
| 19:05.07 | CIA-39 | 03xinhuan * r68964 10LibGraph-2.0/LibGraph-2.0/LibGraph-2.0.lua: LibGraph-2.0: Optimize the library slightly by upvalueing all the math.blah function calls and constants. |
| 19:06.32 | NeoTron | that's why I'd like to see a ms warrior WWS :-P |
| 19:07.00 | kagaro | unfortunetly right now my badwidth is being hammered, im uploading a video to my guild website of our bloodboil kill |
| 19:07.20 | durcyn | yeah, need a minute to unbreak my own svn client anyway |
| 19:08.06 | kagaro | all that event handler needs is a check, if 'english spell name' or 'localized name from GetSpellInfo) |
| 19:08.27 | durcyn | NeoTron: http://wowwebstats.com/iwbfragyxjkxu?s=6832-7190&a=24 |
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| 19:12.41 | NeoTron | see now that's 800 dps more than our.. |
| 19:13.05 | NeoTron | of course it includes executewhich helps |
| 19:15.03 | durcyn | the only difficult part of pve ms dps is watching your swing timer and figuring out if you have enough time for slam, or if you should heroic instead |
| 19:15.26 | durcyn | beyond that it's standard one-button raiding |
| 19:15.33 | hypetech | does anybody know of a good solution for track attendance seperate of and not pertaining to DKP? |
| 19:15.53 | genetik- | we use a google spreadsheet |
| 19:16.19 | NeoTron | he's not using HS at all |
| 19:16.36 | NeoTron | and as I said I suspect he snaps his autoattack off instead |
| 19:16.42 | durcyn | then he's dumb, go beat him upside the head |
| 19:16.54 | durcyn | make him install quartz and stare at the swing timer for an hour |
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| 19:17.23 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r68965 10DaHud/modules/Icons/Core.lua: |
| 19:17.23 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 19:17.23 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.26 | NeoTron | he has swing timers he claims |
| 19:17.29 | durcyn | kagaro: can you post it in branches perchance? |
| 19:17.41 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: then he just stinks |
| 19:17.48 | kagaro | yeah give me a few |
| 19:17.52 | NeoTron | look for yourself: http://wowwebstats.com/tlffko4em51vs?a=25&s=13205-13532 |
| 19:17.55 | Gagorian | Eredar twins are pretty gay :< |
| 19:17.58 | NeoTron | our ret pally beat him by 300 dps |
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| 19:18.16 | NeoTron | and if not perfectly geared, he's certaintly not poorly geared |
| 19:18.22 | durcyn | eh, ret paladins can get really lucky vs brutallus, since it's a demon |
| 19:18.33 | durcyn | i wouldn't judge the warrior against that |
| 19:19.07 | durcyn | but anyway, tell him to stop clipping shit and start using HS when slam won't fit |
| 19:19.30 | NeoTron | 1000 DPS |
| 19:19.33 | NeoTron | nuff said |
| 19:19.34 | durcyn | he's probably sitting at a full rage bar 75% of the time, too, isn't he? |
| 19:19.48 | NeoTron | I honestly dont' know |
| 19:20.01 | NeoTron | so our pally didn't use more than one excorsism |
| 19:20.04 | NeoTron | need to figure that out too |
| 19:20.07 | NeoTron | seems silly |
| 19:20.16 | NeoTron | sorry 2 |
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| 19:22.30 | CIA-39 | 03xinhuan * r68966 10RatingBuster/ (5 files): RatingBuster: Fix localization for all locales. Why the hell would you not fix it for all locales wesslen? It's just simple cut and pasting the word Agility. |
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| 19:24.07 | durcyn | NeoTron: our ret paladin was beating rogues on one attempt last night, if you want to compare: http://wowwebstats.com/ymldint2k4ti3?s=15094-15306&a=28 |
| 19:24.14 | kagaro | lua> select(1,GetSpellInfo(2366)) |
| 19:24.15 | lua_bot | kagaro: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'GetSpellInfo' (a nil value) |
| 19:24.56 | nevcairiel | kagaro: luabot doesnt do wow API :P |
| 19:25.05 | kagaro | yeah i see that :) |
| 19:25.30 | durcyn | Herb Gathering, btw |
| 19:25.53 | durcyn | i got tired of looking it up and scraped 50k spell IDs from wowhead >_> |
| 19:25.55 | kagaro | I was double checking |
| 19:26.18 | nevcairiel | durcyn: why not just generate it with a loop over GetSpellInfo ? :P |
| 19:26.44 | durcyn | nevcairiel: because that would make too much sense, of course. |
| 19:27.00 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68967 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism: added support for english or localized names in events |
| 19:27.01 | pastamancer | durcyn: http://kyle.13th-floor.org/wow/spells/ |
| 19:27.30 | durcyn | where were you a week ago! |
| 19:27.42 | pastamancer | writing that :p |
| 19:27.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 19:31.10 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68968 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining: adding support for localized spell names |
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| 19:33.07 | Antiarc | Where is the best place to get TinyTip? |
| 19:33.16 | Aethenelle | svn? |
| 19:33.22 | luxus_ | tiptac rocks :D |
| 19:33.22 | Antiarc | I'm not seeing it on google code |
| 19:33.33 | Aethenelle | ace svn |
| 19:33.50 | durcyn | i think he's moved to git for off-site stuff, but most changes are committed to wowace also |
| 19:34.09 | Aethenelle | get it with externals though... if you want it without get the other tinytips (basic, target....) |
| 19:34.09 | Antiarc | Last I heard he moved off of wowace a long time ago |
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| 19:34.25 | durcyn | they're back on svn as of a few weeks ago |
| 19:34.33 | durcyn | uploaded by thrae himself, so |
| 19:34.41 | Aethenelle | he's been updating the ace stuff... still kinda broken in places though... |
| 19:34.43 | Antiarc | Oh, neat |
| 19:35.25 | Aethenelle | slash command to enter options is broken... still available in the interface options though.... |
| 19:35.27 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ is always the latest |
| 19:35.34 | kilrogg | Saroz: you there ? |
| 19:35.51 | Xinhuan | that Whisp addon looks useful |
| 19:35.51 | Antiarc | Huh, wonder how I missed that. Thanks, nevcairiel |
| 19:35.55 | Xinhuan | wonder if i should try it |
| 19:36.21 | Aethenelle | anyone know a good IRC client for the Mac? |
| 19:36.28 | durcyn | Colloquy |
| 19:37.15 | Xinhuan | antiarc, does omen attempt to track threat of player vs mob-mindcontrolled players? ;) |
| 19:37.17 | kilrogg | ~seen saroz |
| 19:37.22 | purl | saroz is currently on #wowace (1d 46m 51s). Has said a total of 24 messages. Is idling for 22h 18m 5s, last said: 'lot of stuff that shouldnt happen'. |
| 19:37.28 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: right now, yes |
| 19:37.55 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: thats on the to-improve-list, though |
| 19:37.56 | Xinhuan | i wonder if its useful in any manner |
| 19:38.07 | nevcairiel | you can taunt crazy mind controlled rogues |
| 19:38.11 | Xinhuan | i think you can blacklist the mobs that spawn right after kiling Hexlord btw |
| 19:38.12 | nevcairiel | when they kill cloth people |
| 19:38.25 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68969 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/addon.lua: Cartographer_ExtractGas: adding support for localized spell names |
| 19:38.26 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 19:38.34 | Xinhuan | not really useful tracking those threat |
| 19:38.47 | nevcairiel | doesnt really hurt either |
| 19:38.53 | nevcairiel | they die and get cleared |
| 19:38.55 | Aethenelle | Antiarc, have you heard of an issue where Sanity2 doesn't track some inventory items properly? |
| 19:39.04 | nevcairiel | not like the freaking scarabs that dont die <.< |
| 19:39.16 | Xinhuan | what matters is that there's about 50 of them, so you're transmitting/receiving threat for all 50 of them |
| 19:39.21 | Aethenelle | badges of justice and primals are he ones that come to mind... |
| 19:39.24 | Xinhuan | a lot of parsing |
| 19:39.28 | Antiarc | Aethenelle: Yes. I haven't updated it in forever. |
| 19:39.43 | Xinhuan | a heal spell, for eg, will change threat on all 50 |
| 19:40.00 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68970 10Cartographer_Fishing/addon.lua: Cartographer_Fishing: adding support for localized spell names |
| 19:40.13 | Xinhuan | although not critical, but not really needed either |
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| 19:40.21 | Xinhuan | its the same with the skeletons right after Ramstein |
| 19:41.08 | Aethenelle | Antiarc: thanks... It's nice to know some other addon i have isn't messing it up... |
| 19:41.11 | nevcairiel | the blacklist, initially, was meant to blacklist mobs that screw up threat because they lack a death event or something |
| 19:41.26 | Xinhuan | well how about the eagles in ZA's eagle boss? |
| 19:41.36 | nevcairiel | those die |
| 19:41.38 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Yes, but I'm also adding mobs that it doesn't make sense to trach threat on |
| 19:41.39 | nevcairiel | when you kill them :D |
| 19:41.41 | Xinhuan | clearly those eagles don't seem to be threat based |
| 19:41.58 | NeoTron | so if a Slam interrupts an autoattack does it delay it or make it skip an entire cycle? |
| 19:42.04 | NeoTron | actually has no idea. |
| 19:42.05 | Antiarc | Skips it |
| 19:42.12 | Antiarc | Rather |
| 19:42.15 | Antiarc | It resets the swing timer |
| 19:42.19 | NeoTron | ah |
| 19:42.37 | Antiarc | Slam DPS is bascially about hitting slam as soon after your swing starts |
| 19:42.38 | NeoTron | so to give you an idea: Ret pally, 3.8 spd wpn: 100 attacks. Warrior, 3.7s wpn: 81 attacks |
| 19:42.47 | Antiarc | Because the slam resets the swing timer when it finishes, too |
| 19:42.56 | NeoTron | really? |
| 19:42.59 | NivFreak | yea, I dislike slam |
| 19:43.03 | NeoTron | how is it better than HS then? |
| 19:43.12 | NivFreak | rage? |
| 19:43.18 | NeoTron | same cost? |
| 19:43.25 | kagaro | durcyn: ive updated the prof modules so they can work with english, or localized names |
| 19:43.26 | Antiarc | Slam is fantastic |
| 19:43.36 | NivFreak | there's several reasons |
| 19:43.37 | Antiarc | HS costs rage, and also means your next swing generates no rage |
| 19:43.39 | NivFreak | but HS is expensive |
| 19:43.41 | NivFreak | right |
| 19:43.42 | durcyn | kagaro: oh, swell ;) |
| 19:43.46 | Antiarc | So you should only use it when you have excess rage |
| 19:43.47 | kagaro | im gona update talismonger now hopefully it should all work |
| 19:43.47 | VonhintenHOME` | gotta have good latency for slam |
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| 19:44.12 | [Endeavour] | + a swing timer is helpful for slam |
| 19:44.16 | NivFreak | I'm still trying to decide if I should have our only fury warrior go MS |
| 19:44.16 | NeoTron | ah so with HS you get no rage |
| 19:44.20 | NivFreak | for the dmg increase |
| 19:44.32 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Right. You only get rage off of white attacks, and HS makes your next attack a yellow attack |
| 19:44.33 | NivFreak | the math for the raid looks good |
| 19:44.34 | NeoTron | but you're saying that Slam will decrease the number of auto attacks |
| 19:44.41 | NivFreak | it would in theory be a 2% increase overall |
| 19:44.51 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Yes, but a slam can do more than an autoattack |
| 19:44.57 | NeoTron | right |
| 19:45.09 | VonhintenHOME` | slam is a cast though, not good for high mobility fights |
| 19:45.11 | NeoTron | but it means my assumption is likely incorrect |
| 19:45.12 | Antiarc | And if you fire it off right after your swing starts then you get that damage for an extra 0.5 sec on your swing |
| 19:45.19 | NeoTron | so he should have less attacks with slam |
| 19:45.22 | NeoTron | basically |
| 19:45.30 | NeoTron | best case it makes the auto-swing 1.5s slower |
| 19:45.34 | Antiarc | He should have more |
| 19:45.38 | Antiarc | No, no |
| 19:45.40 | Antiarc | 0.5 sec slower |
| 19:45.52 | Antiarc | Talented slam is a 0.5 sec cast |
| 19:46.03 | kagaro | durcyn: check it all out locally and double check it pls, my bandwidth is making it horrible to try arm |
| 19:46.04 | Antiarc | I think? |
| 19:46.07 | kagaro | *atm |
| 19:46.26 | Vulcanus | wtf, gruul just reset to 100% health from 75% on grow 6 |
| 19:46.32 | Antiarc | Yes, talented it's a 0.5 sec cast |
| 19:46.41 | NeoTron | ah 0.5s |
| 19:46.41 | NeoTron | ok |
| 19:46.43 | Antiarc | So if you have a 3.4 speed weapon, then you can get 2 attacks in 3.9 seconds |
| 19:46.49 | durcyn | kagaro: i can check everything but engineering |
| 19:46.57 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68971 10Talismonger-3.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Talismonger-3.0: removed babble-spell refs |
| 19:47.11 | Antiarc | 3 attacks in 4.4 seconds 4 attacks in 7.8 seconds |
| 19:47.43 | Silviu- | Antiarc u are not registered ;-) |
| 19:47.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 19:48.37 | NeoTron | oh so really you should keep using slam continuously as long as you have rage |
| 19:48.54 | Antiarc | And MS/BT aren't up, yes |
| 19:49.09 | Antiarc | MS/BT > slam since they're instant and don't reset the swing timer |
| 19:49.19 | NivFreak | people deep enough in fury to have BT actually slam? |
| 19:49.20 | NeoTron | BT? |
| 19:49.26 | NivFreak | bloodthirst |
| 19:49.42 | Antiarc | NivFreak: Not likely |
| 19:49.49 | Antiarc | But if they do :P |
| 19:49.51 | NivFreak | hah |
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| 19:50.46 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68972 10Cartographer_Herbalism/ (embeds.xml libs/): Cartographer_Herbalism: removed externals |
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| 19:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 19:51.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` |
| 19:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | this just happened to me in hyjal: |
| 19:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | 21:51 To [Aragoth]: <SBW> I'm busy fighting Thrall (currently at 88% with 23/25 players alive). You'll be notified when combat ends. |
| 19:51.43 | durcyn | kagaro: 54-72 is malformed, sec |
| 19:52.03 | Antiarc | Slam, when executed properly, can be considered to be a 0.5 speed autoattack, more or less |
| 19:52.04 | durcyn | kagaro: talismonger spell_map, that is |
| 19:52.21 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68973 10Cartographer_Mining/ (embeds.xml libs/): Cartographer_Mining: removed externals |
| 19:52.24 | kagaro | hrmmm just copied it from Ora2 |
| 19:53.09 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:53.12 | NeoTron | so I have gathered |
| 19:55.15 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r68974 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (. embeds.xml): Cartographer_Fishing: removed externals |
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| 19:57.00 | kagaro | durcyn: that should be all the externals to all the profs |
| 19:57.23 | kilrogg | Saroz: ping |
| 19:57.56 | Highend | hi. does anybody use bongos3 beta 9 (successfully)? |
| 19:58.19 | durcyn | kagaro: yeah, can't verify until i un-fuck spell_map though =P |
| 19:59.35 | NeoTron | demonslaying elixir - ret pallies/ms warriors - aye or nay? |
| 19:59.46 | durcyn | all physical dps |
| 19:59.53 | NeoTron | all melee physical |
| 19:59.56 | durcyn | well, except hunters i suppose |
| 19:59.58 | NeoTron | hunters don't benefit |
| 20:00.02 | durcyn | since it doesn't affect RAP, yes |
| 20:00.13 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r68976 10Omen/Frame.lua: Omen: Only register OnSizeChanged when the user is resizing the frame. Should produce a performance increase for users with autocollapse on. |
| 20:00.35 | Saroz | kilrogg |
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| 20:02.33 | kilrogg | Just found a bug in sRaidFrames ... custom range check via spellbook-scan didn't work. Fixed it by moving the ScanSpellbookForRange() call to OnEnable (was in OnInitialize) |
| 20:02.42 | kadrahil | [B] <70:Beery-Kael'thas:5>: there are like 4 priests healing each other in sh bunker |
| 20:02.50 | kadrahil | pro |
| 20:02.51 | kilrogg | just wanted to ask if I may check that in ... |
| 20:03.13 | Saroz | kilrogg, thanks |
| 20:03.51 | NeoTron | has anyone theorycrafted the raid dps benefit of a MS warrior? |
| 20:04.11 | NeoTron | kind of have to decide between this guy and another high dps class |
| 20:04.16 | CIA-39 | 03saroz * r68977 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Move ScanSpellbookForRange to OnEnable |
| 20:04.59 | durcyn | blood frenzy is huge for brutallus |
| 20:05.15 | Pkekyo| | what's the point of executing someone with a full auto-spray at point blank? :/ |
| 20:06.02 | NeoTron | huge enough to bring a 1000 dps warrior ? |
| 20:06.28 | durcyn | huge enough to tell the warrior to suck less =P |
| 20:06.28 | Fisker- | new rep rates = LUV |
| 20:06.34 | NeoTron | durcyn: I've done that |
| 20:06.42 | NeoTron | but that doesn't mean he'll do better |
| 20:06.54 | NeoTron | we had no enhancement shaman |
| 20:07.02 | NeoTron | but I am comparing, perhaps unfairly, to the ret pally |
| 20:07.05 | durcyn | kagaro: hm, it's bombing on Pick Pocket |
| 20:07.09 | NeoTron | and I don't see how a ms warrior should be 300 dps less |
| 20:07.17 | kagaro | bad spell id then i would take it |
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| 20:07.38 | durcyn | nope, 921 is correct when i dump it |
| 20:07.49 | hypetech | Blizz should add the functionality of AltClickToAddItem to the default UI -.- |
| 20:07.56 | durcyn | sec, let me make the table global and check it again |
| 20:07.57 | kagaro | whats the error stack? |
| 20:08.33 | durcyn | eh, something about table close, most likely because the key's nil for some reason |
| 20:08.33 | Fisker- | this is fucking annoying |
| 20:08.40 | durcyn | sec, reloading ui at the moment |
| 20:08.58 | Fisker- | i'm getting "mail not delivered" and all sorts of "spam not delivered" from mail servers |
| 20:09.09 | Fisker- | someone sent spam in my email ;_; |
| 20:09.13 | durcyn | Fisker-: congratulations on backscatter! |
| 20:09.52 | Fisker- | ? |
| 20:10.39 | [eu]gunder | ace3 is a CPU hog for me, is there a way to see which addon is causing that? |
| 20:11.11 | kadrahil | so is s4 starting soon or what? |
| 20:11.17 | kadrahil | gear is already listed in atlasloot |
| 20:11.54 | [eu]gunder | kadrahil: http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 20:12.10 | durcyn | kagaro: oh, i'm an idiot. there's no trailing comma on Opening. |
| 20:12.19 | kadrahil | .. |
| 20:12.21 | kagaro | thats would do it |
| 20:12.53 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r68978 10Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0/Talismonger-3.0.lua: Talismonger-3.0: typo fix |
| 20:13.13 | Fisker- | what say you durcyn? |
| 20:13.39 | durcyn | Fisker-: backscatter. you got joe-jobbed by a spammer. |
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| 20:14.40 | Fisker- | joe-jobbed? |
| 20:15.00 | durcyn | spoofed sender data |
| 20:15.10 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:15.13 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 20:15.27 | NivFreak | jesus |
| 20:15.39 | NivFreak | my guild has been in the wowjutsu update queue for 2.5 days |
| 20:16.01 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Take your raid DPS, subtract 1000, add 4% |
| 20:16.11 | Antiarc | Compare to your raid DPS with the other guy |
| 20:16.18 | Antiarc | Actually, wait :P |
| 20:16.23 | Antiarc | It's 4% to physical damage |
| 20:16.29 | Antiarc | Which is still a lot |
| 20:16.39 | Antiarc | Calculate how much of your raid's damage is physical :P |
| 20:17.04 | NeoTron | ah right |
| 20:17.08 | NeoTron | it's that easy |
| 20:17.09 | NeoTron | I forgot |
| 20:17.49 | Chompers | i want to go arms again :< |
| 20:17.53 | Chompers | i really miss being slam spec |
| 20:18.12 | Paene | ~api GetItemInfo |
| 20:18.12 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 20:19.32 | Fisker- | any good blue paladin gems? |
| 20:19.51 | Antiarc | Prot paladin? Stam! :V |
| 20:19.55 | Fisker- | holy |
| 20:20.08 | Fisker- | t6 gloves and head seems so shitty for paladins |
| 20:20.22 | [eu]gunder | Spirit! (kidding) |
| 20:20.23 | NivFreak | Chompers: really? |
| 20:20.35 | NeoTron | so with raid wide buff benefit, the warrior contribution was around 1450 DPS |
| 20:20.47 | NeoTron | which means another rogue would have been preferable |
| 20:20.52 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:21.01 | NivFreak | depends on your makeup of course |
| 20:21.01 | NeoTron | but that doesn't include Battle Shout |
| 20:22.10 | NeoTron | and if we don't have his DS we'd likely need to use CoW |
| 20:22.18 | NeoTron | which is another 60k dmg lost from no CoD |
| 20:22.35 | NivFreak | have him spec fury and do good dmg? |
| 20:22.38 | NivFreak | and provide the same buffs |
| 20:22.46 | [eu]gunder | Ace3 is taking 10% of my cpu time O_o |
| 20:22.46 | Antiarc | Fury doesn't provide blood frenzy |
| 20:23.05 | Antiarc | [eu]gunder: 10% of your addon CPU time, or 10% of your frame time? |
| 20:23.11 | NivFreak | Antiarc: right |
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| 20:23.23 | [eu]gunder | Well 10% in performancefu |
| 20:23.25 | NivFreak | but if blood frenzy doesn't offset his lost DPS from fury -> arms |
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| 20:23.34 | NivFreak | fury will have all the other benefits |
| 20:23.49 | Chompers | i think a warrior needs 2 pieces of t6 to effectivly swap over to slam spec |
| 20:23.56 | Chompers | otherwise its a net loss of dps |
| 20:24.12 | [eu]gunder | so I guess it is frame time perhaps, I'm experiencing some lag in frame rate so i'm trying to find what addon is causing this |
| 20:24.45 | NeoTron | NivFreak: he has no gear for fury |
| 20:24.51 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 20:24.52 | [eu]gunder | WoW is telling me I have 25fps but the feeling is more like 8fps :s |
| 20:24.55 | NivFreak | then find another warrior |
| 20:24.56 | NeoTron | NivFreak: gets like 20+% miss with fury |
| 20:24.56 | Silviu- | I blame Omen muhaha ( Antiarc will kill me ) ;-) |
| 20:24.57 | Hjalte | [eu]gunder: I'm experiencing the same, but first try turning off all your addons and see if that improves frame rate a lot |
| 20:25.08 | NeoTron | we have no other (dps) warrior |
| 20:25.08 | [eu]gunder | ok |
| 20:25.22 | NivFreak | NeoTron: hit capped isn't required to do good fury dps :) |
| 20:25.32 | Silviu- | [eu]gunder, i had a problem like that on Brutalus with Recount on |
| 20:25.51 | [eu]gunder | I tried disabling Reount but the problem remains |
| 20:25.56 | [eu]gunder | *recount |
| 20:25.59 | Silviu- | And ka, i have an 8800 grafic card but still i think had ~10 fps lol |
| 20:26.00 | NeoTron | NivFreak: he did worse dps as fury spec than MS spec |
| 20:26.02 | NeoTron | seriously |
| 20:26.12 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I doubt it's gear then |
| 20:26.14 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:26.19 | NeoTron | it's likely both |
| 20:26.27 | NeoTron | the specs don't have the same gear requirements |
| 20:26.29 | artemoe | is there a way i can make a char on an us server with My eu wow? |
| 20:26.46 | Silviu- | artemoe nop |
| 20:26.46 | NivFreak | NeoTron: while this is true, they aren't that far apart ;P |
| 20:26.59 | Silviu- | artemoe, or hmm, u also own an US account ? |
| 20:27.06 | Silviu- | artemoe or only eu account ;) |
| 20:27.14 | NivFreak | how much hit rating does he have? |
| 20:27.18 | artemoe | no |
| 20:27.21 | [eu]gunder | weird with no addon enabled my fps is 14fps ^^ 10 less than with addons |
| 20:27.31 | Silviu- | lol ! |
| 20:27.31 | Silviu- | :D |
| 20:27.36 | Silviu- | That`s cool ;-) |
| 20:27.46 | haste | sounds like some invalid testing |
| 20:27.59 | Hjalte | [eu]gunder: My point is, that I think that the new combatlog might have screwed fps for some of us, if not everyone. |
| 20:28.11 | Xinhuan | [eu]gunder, how is that weird? |
| 20:28.18 | Antiarc | Hmm |
| 20:28.21 | Xinhuan | 10 less fps sounds completely normal to me |
| 20:28.23 | Antiarc | I should stub the combat log |
| 20:28.25 | NivFreak | NeoTron: this is one of our DPS warriors, he breaks 1K DPS with his gear on most fights |
| 20:28.28 | NivFreak | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Peaterpan |
| 20:28.29 | [eu]gunder | well with no addon my fps is lower than with addons |
| 20:28.29 | Antiarc | And find out how much time it's taking |
| 20:28.42 | NivFreak | NeoTron: he's weapons are t3 BS mace and claw offhand from ZA |
| 20:28.50 | NivFreak | since he has a board/sword equipped |
| 20:28.53 | [eu]gunder | I would have assumed that addons decreased the fps performance |
| 20:28.56 | Xinhuan | it'll still take a significant amount Antiarc, but not as much as the really old version ;p |
| 20:29.22 | artemoe | so u havel to buy an us account and then log onto it with My eu client and bc? |
| 20:30.31 | NivFreak | my performance is crap lately |
| 20:30.45 | NivFreak | I was having small lockups doing solarian's trash last night |
| 20:30.50 | NivFreak | and VRs trash come to think of it |
| 20:31.32 | [eu]gunder | It is really weird I have 1/5s lockups every 2~3s |
| 20:31.44 | Silviu- | mighty haste, can i add combat icon to my player frame ? and if yes how ;p ( oUF ) |
| 20:31.55 | [eu]gunder | meh I want a faster computer! |
| 20:32.31 | Silviu- | i want a better optimized wow :/ for faster computers .. |
| 20:32.47 | NivFreak | [eu]gunder: that's what I saw seeing last night |
| 20:32.51 | artemoe | because i'll start studying to ne an english teacher in autumn and want to use wow as sort of training |
| 20:32.57 | Xinhuan | [4/11 04:28:26] <[eu]gunder> well with no addon my fps is lower than with addons |
| 20:33.07 | Xinhuan | same location? same camera viewing angle? |
| 20:33.13 | Xinhuan | same number of people in front of you? |
| 20:33.14 | [eu]gunder | yes |
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| 20:33.34 | [eu]gunder | well same people i don't know i'm in the inn in silvermoon |
| 20:33.36 | Xinhuan | shattrath is not a good location to measure fps |
| 20:33.42 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I dunno man |
| 20:33.49 | NeoTron | I'm not very well versed with warriors |
| 20:33.49 | Xinhuan | in fact, cities are not good locations |
| 20:33.52 | [eu]gunder | ok |
| 20:33.55 | NivFreak | <-- warrior |
| 20:33.59 | Xinhuan | go to somewhere people-less ;p |
| 20:34.00 | artemoe | thats true |
| 20:34.05 | Xinhuan | and preferably NPC-less |
| 20:34.07 | NeoTron | but I know he should do more than 1050 DPS with 1xheroism and 2x drum users |
| 20:34.15 | Xinhuan | every NPC/player near you affects FPS |
| 20:34.15 | [eu]gunder | i'll go in a remote place with no players ^^ |
| 20:34.28 | Xinhuan | because they have hundreds of polygons |
| 20:34.37 | chdst | I recommend Darnassus... |
| 20:34.39 | chdst | j/k :) |
| 20:34.40 | Xinhuan | all of which need to be calculated if they are on screen |
| 20:34.48 | Xinhuan | even if they are offscreen, it still has to calculate them |
| 20:34.55 | Xinhuan | to see if they are on/off screen |
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| 20:34.59 | Aiiane | well, sort of, not really |
| 20:35.19 | Aiiane | it's only a single check or two (assuming bounding spheres) to see if something is onscreen |
| 20:35.23 | hypetech | I've always found to my surprise that if I disable all addons I gain MAYBE 5 fps as opposed to what I get when running 55+ MB of addons |
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| 20:35.45 | hypetech | maybe if you're capping out your RAM, it would be an issue, but I have 2 gig |
| 20:36.01 | [eu]gunder | <-- 45Mb of addons with 2 gig |
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| 20:36.21 | Aiiane | hypetech: most addons don't do graphically-intensive stuff |
| 20:36.26 | Silviu- | Wow have a strange engine, i mean i can play Crysis on high with ~30 fps, and wow sometimes goes down to 25 fps a 3 years old game ... :) |
| 20:36.30 | hypetech | ya |
| 20:36.33 | [eu]gunder | cpu is more of a problem tho P4 3.2GHZ |
| 20:36.47 | NeoTron | WoW is definitely CPU bound for me |
| 20:37.07 | Aiiane | WoW should be cpu-bound for most people, the graphics aren't that intense. |
| 20:37.10 | NeoTron | I had a gfx card that I underlocked to half the speed because it locked otherwise (8800GT, yes I RMA'd it) |
| 20:37.16 | NeoTron | and I didn't lose any FPS |
| 20:38.05 | Xinhuan | [eu]gunder, for the most part, you should be measure FPS with your UI hidden |
| 20:38.05 | Silviu- | NeoTron gigabyte one ? ;) |
| 20:38.10 | Xinhuan | i.e alt-z and ctrl+r |
| 20:38.11 | NivFreak | oh |
| 20:38.12 | NivFreak | so btw |
| 20:38.15 | hypetech | well on this work PC I play on, I have an AMD FX64 5000+ Dual Core and 2GB of RAM...buuuut...I'm using onboard graphics so I usually run under 10 fps in raids :( |
| 20:38.15 | NivFreak | we did VR last night |
| 20:38.22 | Silviu- | (23:36:59) (F'Aiiane) WoW should be cpu-bound for most people, the graphics aren't that intense. |
| 20:38.22 | Silviu- | (23:37:02) (F'NeoTron) I had a gfx card that I underlocked to half the speed because it locked otherwise (8800GT, yes I RMA'd |
| 20:38.24 | NivFreak | and just all stood in melee range, and sent 2 hunters out to dodge orbs |
| 20:38.26 | Silviu- | Ups, srry |
| 20:38.30 | NivFreak | we killed him 4 minutes faster... |
| 20:38.47 | NivFreak | so |
| 20:38.54 | NivFreak | I don't think we're ever going to dodge orbs again |
| 20:38.56 | Xinhuan | go kill shade of aran, he's dead before his mana reaches 70% lol |
| 20:39.01 | Silviu- | NeoTron i heard Gigabyte 8800 GT had some lockups problems |
| 20:39.01 | NivFreak | just stand point blank and nuke |
| 20:39.22 | hypetech | NivFreak: pounding doesn't kill the squishies? |
| 20:39.24 | [eu]gunder | thanks for the tip (I'm usy reenabling my gazillion addons) |
| 20:39.26 | NivFreak | hypetech: nope |
| 20:39.31 | [eu]gunder | *busy |
| 20:39.32 | NivFreak | we have 2xCoH priests and 2xresto shaman |
| 20:39.35 | NivFreak | it was cake |
| 20:39.36 | Xinhuan | you can even kill prince before the 4th infernal lands |
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| 20:40.46 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: hrm? |
| 20:41.02 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68979 10BigWigs/Sunwell/ (Kalecgos.lua Twins.lua): BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: Add range check since Miyari sucks :) |
| 20:41.12 | Xinhuan | what? :) |
| 20:41.17 | NivFreak | were you talking to me? |
| 20:41.32 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 20:41.44 | Xinhuan | awesome, WAU no longer attempts to download babblespell |
| 20:42.02 | [eu]gunder | updating without externals is great for not downloading many time the same lib when updated, it is a bit frustrating when reenabling addons |
| 20:42.39 | Xinhuan | should make it possible for babble-2.2 to NOT include babblespell-2.2 imo |
| 20:43.24 | Xinhuan | i just reduced UI memory by 3 or 4 mb getting rid of babblespell from all my addons |
| 20:43.39 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: I don't want to go back to kara, ever again :) |
| 20:43.53 | Xinhuan | oh i do it for 22 badges, 22 badges ~= 220g |
| 20:44.02 | Xinhuan | or 1.5 epic gems |
| 20:44.18 | kenlyric | 10g per badge |
| 20:44.20 | kenlyric | would pay |
| 20:44.27 | Xinhuan | yep, vortexes are 150g on my server |
| 20:44.33 | Xinhuan | so 10g per badge |
| 20:44.42 | kenlyric | but they won't let me :( |
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| 20:47.16 | Dashkal | 10 a badge? wtb 300 of them right now? |
| 20:47.45 | Hjalte | wants to sell lots of badges for a girlfriend. |
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| 20:48.17 | Xinhuan | well i have some 600+ in my bank |
| 20:48.22 | Xinhuan | taking up 4 bank slots |
| 20:48.26 | Dashkal | I can't pin a price on badges on my server, Nethers and Vorticies have non-proportional prices |
| 20:48.36 | chiper | they were going for 400g on my realm when 2.4 first went live |
| 20:48.48 | CIA-39 | 03elsia * r68980 10Recount/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:48.48 | CIA-39 | Recount: |
| 20:48.48 | CIA-39 | - Added configuration for main bar text (one can remove rank number, persec and percent texts) |
| 20:48.52 | Xinhuan | nethers are 30g |
| 20:48.55 | Xinhuan | on mine hehe |
| 20:48.56 | Dashkal | lua> 50/10, 400/15 |
| 20:48.56 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 5, 26.666666666667 |
| 20:49.04 | chiper | GF cleaned up, made 5000g in a day |
| 20:49.08 | Dashkal | just a little out of whack... |
| 20:49.12 | NivFreak | yea, I bought 2 primal nethers for 40G |
| 20:49.16 | NivFreak | cheaper than primal life now =x |
| 20:49.30 | Dashkal | I paid 30ish, but 50 is the baseline for one on maelstrom |
| 20:49.59 | Dashkal | but for the vortex... at that price I'd rather spend the badges.. or not. nom nom druid staff |
| 20:50.28 | NivFreak | I'd rather keep badges for welfare epics |
| 20:50.29 | kenlyric | I don't care, badges have no price because I can't buy them |
| 20:50.31 | NivFreak | gold is easy to come by |
| 20:50.34 | kenlyric | :casualtears: |
| 20:50.35 | Dashkal | exactly |
| 20:50.46 | Dashkal | I'm saving all my cash for when the engy goggles finally hit the market |
| 20:50.47 | NivFreak | although, now that badges drop in 25s |
| 20:50.49 | NivFreak | I see more of them |
| 20:50.51 | chiper | I hate that term. "welfare" epics |
| 20:50.52 | kenlyric | WHERE ARE MY WELFARE EPICS |
| 20:50.58 | chdst | Engy goggles? |
| 20:51.02 | chdst | Tell me more! |
| 20:51.05 | NivFreak | chiper: that's what they are ;) |
| 20:51.06 | Dashkal | tier 2 goggles drop off of sunwell trash |
| 20:51.09 | chiper | you still have to work for badges |
| 20:51.10 | Dashkal | the recipies are BoE |
| 20:51.17 | NivFreak | chiper: it's nothing close to the same |
| 20:51.18 | Dashkal | erm, well, non-binding |
| 20:51.22 | Xinhuan | fact is, i'm getting well over 50 badges a week |
| 20:51.25 | kenlyric | you have to group with other people |
| 20:51.28 | kenlyric | fuck all that kind of noise |
| 20:51.35 | Dashkal | so eventually they'll hit the AH, though probably in the mid four figure range |
| 20:51.40 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastebin.com/m7cce3491 <--this is my code(ignore that pastebin broke the CSS on lines 44/45, it's 1 line). this is the bug: http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drecksie2nr8.jpg (div flowing out of the right side, width of the div matches my screen resolution apparently so i think IE is failing at using the margin properly), help me please D: |
| 20:51.42 | Xinhuan | just from doing BT, Hyjal, ZA, kara and an occasoinal heroic |
| 20:51.44 | chdst | Nice. |
| 20:51.45 | Xinhuan | plus DEing |
| 20:51.49 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: oh, is that all? |
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| 20:51.57 | Xinhuan | yah |
| 20:51.59 | Dashkal | I'm collecting as much cash as I can in prep. I'll pay 4kish for them |
| 20:52.00 | chiper | just because you spend hours in heroics instead of 25mans, doesnt make it any less valuable |
| 20:52.01 | kenlyric | you fucking casual |
| 20:52.01 | NivFreak | I'm so sick to death of kara |
| 20:52.10 | NivFreak | and ZA takes more out of me than SSC/TK ever do |
| 20:52.13 | NivFreak | and I have all the drops I want from it |
| 20:52.21 | Dashkal | though I'd drop that in a heartbeat if I could buy badges for 10g each :p |
| 20:52.29 | Xinhuan | ZA is like 13 badges in 80 min |
| 20:52.38 | CIA-39 | 03paene * r68981 10Cryolysis2/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:52.38 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 20:52.38 | CIA-39 | - Removed the need to manually localize mounts. |
| 20:52.43 | NivFreak | chiper: waiting 28 weeks for an item to drop is pretty different than grinding out any random heroic until you get a purple |
| 20:53.04 | chiper | you're right, it's far less productive |
| 20:53.07 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.09 | Dashkal | Heroics aren't very good time spent -> badge count. Kara/ZA are much better. |
| 20:53.21 | kenlyric | NivFreak: yeah, one is much dumber than the other |
| 20:53.26 | NivFreak | kara is excellent for badges, yes |
| 20:53.43 | NeoTron | it's not quite as easy since you have a longer GCD than 1.5 so more like AA => Slam => MS => AA => Slam => WW => AA => Slam => MS => AA =>Spam =>Shout |
| 20:53.49 | NivFreak | but I spent a year farming that place, geared 3 toons in it |
| 20:53.52 | NivFreak | I don't want to go back |
| 20:53.52 | Paene | ~api GetSpellInfo |
| 20:53.53 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo |
| 20:53.53 | NivFreak | ever |
| 20:53.53 | NivFreak | :) |
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| 20:55.43 | Paene | wow GetSpellInfo pretty much eliminates the need to search through the user's spellbook to see if they have a spell... |
| 20:55.46 | Paene | amazing |
| 20:55.48 | Dashkal | I hate kara as an instance. It just isn't much fun. If my guild had the numbers I'd be pushing hard for badge runs of gruul/mag/VR/Loot below *sigh* Can do that entire set in the time a kara takes at our level |
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| 20:56.23 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 20:56.24 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 20:56.25 | chiper | my point still stands, however. badge gear vs 25man drops. it's all grinding, just different locations |
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| 20:56.36 | Beherit | hi there |
| 20:56.44 | Paene | hi |
| 20:56.48 | chiper | same is true for pvp gear |
| 20:56.56 | NeoTron | with the main difference that pvp/badge gear = guaranteed |
| 20:56.58 | Beherit | one quest, is there a way to get the health of a NPC without targeting him? |
| 20:57.03 | NeoTron | while 25-man raids an item might never drop |
| 20:57.09 | chiper | neo: yes, exactly |
| 20:57.15 | Beherit | so lets say getUnitByMobId :P |
| 20:57.17 | NeoTron | 4 months in BT, one skull, one staff, one glaive |
| 20:57.22 | chiper | Beherit: nope |
| 20:57.22 | Dashkal | Does mobhealth use guids yet? |
| 20:57.27 | Polarina | AddOns that use over 3 ms/s of CPU time are a FPS killer. |
| 20:57.31 | NivFreak | chiper: it's very different |
| 20:57.42 | Beherit | chiper thx |
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| 20:57.52 | NivFreak | don't get me wrong |
| 20:57.54 | Paene | Are guids unique to each mob? |
| 20:57.55 | NivFreak | I like my welfare epics |
| 20:58.12 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 20:58.16 | Dashkal | they are. Though that wouldn't let you get a "live" hp for a mob regardless. Need to target to get the % |
| 20:58.21 | kenlyric | they'll be welfare epics when I get them from dailies |
| 20:58.27 | kenlyric | until then, shut it |
| 20:58.33 | Paene | I'm just wondering for tracking debuffs and such |
| 20:58.49 | NivFreak | kenlyric: you get badges from dailies |
| 20:58.51 | Paene | I just reactivated my acct, so I'm not totally aware of everything involving the new combat log system |
| 20:58.51 | NivFreak | so what's your point |
| 20:58.57 | kenlyric | lies |
| 20:59.02 | NivFreak | you do |
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| 20:59.06 | kenlyric | lies |
| 20:59.10 | NivFreak | shattered suns supplies contant badges |
| 20:59.18 | NivFreak | so technically, you're getting epics from daily quests |
| 20:59.22 | NivFreak | not to mention the rep ones ;) |
| 20:59.24 | kenlyric | at the rate I get badges per gold that makes badges worth about 200g each |
| 20:59.36 | chiper | welfare comes from nothing. you dont have to work to be on welfare |
| 20:59.36 | Dashkal | lol, on average that's what, one every 2 days? :p |
| 20:59.38 | kenlyric | not welfare enough. |
| 20:59.41 | kenlyric | that's like premium welfare |
| 20:59.47 | kenlyric | Dashkal: that's about right |
| 20:59.53 | chiper | when the badges appear magically in my mailbox every day, I'll accept the term "welfare" |
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| 20:59.57 | NivFreak | haha |
| 20:59.58 | Dashkal | heh, I'd get my staff in about a full year at that rate... |
| 20:59.58 | kenlyric | I'm getting a sick bow about the time I ding 80 |
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| 21:00.03 | Dashkal | I don't think that counts |
| 21:00.18 | Dashkal | Though it is a nice boost to the count once in awhile |
| 21:00.25 | kenlyric | so instead I'm spending my gold on a title |
| 21:00.38 | chiper | in the mean time, I'm happy to have a method that allows me to continue my gear progression without ignoring my family and other responsibilities |
| 21:00.45 | chiper | glares at NivFreak |
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| 21:00.54 | Hjalte | Antiarc: In single target mode, I, as a warlock, will still have to go to 130% of the tanks threat before I take aggro, right? |
| 21:01.16 | Xinhuan | Hjalte, i would never suggest you to go above 100% |
| 21:01.30 | Xinhuan | many boss abilities specifically avoid targetting "the highest person on aggro" |
| 21:01.31 | hypetech | Hjalte: psh. live on the edge. 129% all night imo |
| 21:01.39 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: I have to do dps :) |
| 21:01.39 | Xinhuan | so if you are at say 112% of the boss |
| 21:01.49 | Xinhuan | the tank can get targetted by such random target abilities because |
| 21:01.52 | Xinhuan | he isn't at the top of threat |
| 21:01.56 | Antiarc | Hjalte: In theory, yes |
| 21:01.57 | sag_ich_nicht | in case anyone is interested, the problem was that i was dumb and didn't use top/left :P |
| 21:01.58 | Xinhuan | an example is Prince in karazhan |
| 21:02.08 | sag_ich_nicht | valid HTML 4.01 and CSS 2.1 \o/ |
| 21:02.10 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: bah almost always have to go above 100% |
| 21:02.24 | Xinhuan | if you are between 100-130% of the tank, you won't pull aggro, but he WILL get enfeebled and the raid will wipe |
| 21:02.24 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: Congratulations! |
| 21:02.34 | NeoTron | the case you're talking about is the exception more than a rule |
| 21:02.49 | Xinhuan | most bosses have random target abilities |
| 21:02.58 | Xinhuan | i'll say its more often the case than an exception |
| 21:03.11 | NeoTron | I disagree. give me an example |
| 21:03.16 | NeoTron | of a random boss that's not prince |
| 21:03.24 | Superfly_ | above 100% you get aggro in melee range, even if you were running next to the boss, and taunt immune boss.. say byebye |
| 21:03.32 | NeoTron | Superfly_: 110% |
| 21:03.45 | Xinhuan | Moroes gouges the MT and runs to 2nd highest threat |
| 21:04.00 | Xinhuan | kalecgos doesn't port the highest aggro |
| 21:04.13 | NeoTron | have you had kalecgos port the tank, ever? |
| 21:04.24 | NeoTron | I find it more likely kalecgos doesnt' port the person he's dpsing |
| 21:04.28 | Superfly_ | ok 110%, sometimes omen doesnt show the correct numbers, in theory its 110%, but not the best go above 100 |
| 21:04.35 | Xinhuan | maybe heh |
| 21:04.41 | Xinhuan | but you won't really know |
| 21:04.51 | NeoTron | I do because I'm almost always >100% |
| 21:04.53 | Xinhuan | until you really attempt to go above 100% |
| 21:04.57 | NeoTron | I have to be or I have to stop dpsing |
| 21:04.59 | Hjalte | Do you know then, if there is something special about teron gorefiend, that would make him smack me at 100%-ish? |
| 21:05.04 | Poul|Raider | is it posible to link abilitys ingame based on its id ? |
| 21:05.15 | NeoTron | Hjalte: broken omen? :P |
| 21:05.20 | Xinhuan | of course poul |
| 21:05.24 | hypetech | I have been over 100% on prince pretty much forever because our guild runs paid half-pugs and we use pug tanks a lot, and the tank hasn't gotten enfeebled |
| 21:05.32 | Xinhuan | go to wowhead and search for any spell, and "copy the /script" for that spell |
| 21:05.40 | Hjalte | NeoTron: That's a good bet, but in many other fights it doesn't seem broken, but of course you never really know untill you pulled aggro :) |
| 21:05.42 | NeoTron | hypetech: it's not imposible they fixed that bug |
| 21:05.57 | NeoTron | I doubt it's intended that such abilities target the tank |
| 21:06.03 | NeoTron | likely a coding error in fact |
| 21:06.13 | Antiarc | Hjalte: Tanks out of date |
| 21:06.13 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 21:06.24 | Fisker- | archimonde on 15% and then the tank misses a fear |
| 21:07.11 | Azurewrath | Archimonde's a bitch.. |
| 21:07.19 | hypetech | Fisker-: no trinket? |
| 21:07.23 | Madrak | standing in the fire? |
| 21:07.34 | Madrak | dying to airburst?.... |
| 21:07.37 | Hjalte | Antiarc: Tank is a bit out of date, sigh. |
| 21:07.44 | Madrak | someone didn't have bagspace and forgot their Tear.... |
| 21:08.03 | Antiarc | Hjalte: That'll do it. Have him update. |
| 21:08.10 | ArrowmasterClass | i died like twice last week from airbursts =( |
| 21:08.28 | NeoTron | ArrowmasterClass: fail! |
| 21:08.31 | ArrowmasterClass | both times i used my trinket and even had the buff gain in the combatlog |
| 21:08.34 | Madrak | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.42 | ArrowmasterClass | er not trinket |
| 21:08.44 | ArrowmasterClass | but tear |
| 21:08.45 | NeoTron | but I've done the same |
| 21:08.52 | NeoTron | I forgot to put the icon on the toolbar once |
| 21:09.01 | Bruners | ArrowmasterClass: have died twice of the same |
| 21:09.04 | NeoTron | and was busy looknig at reorganizing the groups for heroism the other time |
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| 21:09.13 | Bruners | popping tear but still dies |
| 21:09.18 | Fisker- | hypetech tank just got pwnt out of range on a bad angle |
| 21:09.22 | Madrak | Dying to airburst is pretty sad =-) |
| 21:09.27 | Fisker- | plus most of the healers were feared of course |
| 21:09.47 | Madrak | Although buff to tremor totem helps a tad |
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| 21:09.51 | hypetech | should have them try trinket rotations :p |
| 21:10.00 | hypetech | tremor totem is godly on that fight now |
| 21:10.02 | Bruners | Madrak: its really sad when no one believes you popped tear :P |
| 21:10.05 | Fisker- | we already got that |
| 21:10.11 | Fisker- | tank got feared, so he can't do shit |
| 21:10.22 | Madrak | Bruners: That's when you say you lagged, or might have been getting disconnected |
| 21:10.25 | Fisker- | and we can't trink every and all healers every fear |
| 21:10.32 | Fisker- | trinket* |
| 21:10.45 | ArrowmasterClass | best bet is tremor totems for healers |
| 21:11.11 | Madrak | I'm horde, and undead, and we have a lot of legacy shamans still in the guild so.... Arch is easy for us |
| 21:11.48 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68983 10FreeMe/ (FreeMe.lua FreeMe.toc): FreeMe: Re-write to v2 of the salvation remover for 2.4 changes |
| 21:13.00 | CIA-39 | 03adirelle * r68984 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (buffs/paladin.lua locale-frFR.lua): SimpleSelfRebuff: updated frFR locale. |
| 21:15.00 | sag_ich_nicht | HAI FUNKYDUDE |
| 21:15.07 | sag_ich_nicht | 21:51 To [Aragoth]: <SBW> I'm busy fighting Thrall (currently at 88% with 23/25 players alive). You'll be notified when combat ends. |
| 21:15.08 | Funkeh` | hi |
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| 21:15.22 | Funkeh` | since when was that my addon |
| 21:15.31 | CIA-39 | 03elsia * r68985 10Recount/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:15.31 | CIA-39 | Recount: |
| 21:15.31 | CIA-39 | - Added option to retain fight segment data only if the segment included a boss level mobs (level = -1) |
| 21:15.34 | sag_ich_nicht | blame my brain |
| 21:15.38 | Funkeh` | I do |
| 21:15.40 | Funkeh` | every day |
| 21:15.49 | Xinhuan | hey elsia |
| 21:15.56 | Elsia | hey xin |
| 21:16.02 | Xinhuan | 2 days ago, recount hung 2 of my guildies's wow |
| 21:16.17 | Xinhuan | when they attempted to look at healing breakdown of who playerX healed |
| 21:16.20 | Elsia | yeah I had an infinite loop, think I removed it though |
| 21:16.21 | Funkeh` | cuz it suxx |
| 21:16.25 | Xinhuan | is it fixed yet? |
| 21:16.37 | Elsia | think so, was a bug in the way detail data was handled |
| 21:16.49 | Gagorian | Infinite loops O_O |
| 21:16.52 | Elsia | basically pairs instead of ipairs and a table element was removed inside the loop |
| 21:17.28 | Elsia | it's odd thought that this hasn't hung anybody before... that's 8 month old code at least |
| 21:17.58 | Xinhuan | it is safe to remove elements already iterated over from a table while using pairs() |
| 21:18.31 | Elsia | hmm |
| 21:18.37 | Xinhuan | otherwise a loop like |
| 21:18.47 | Xinhuan | for k in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end |
| 21:18.49 | Xinhuan | wouldn't work |
| 21:18.51 | Xinhuan | to empty a table |
| 21:19.25 | Xinhuan | its when you remove elements that you haven't iterated over, or insert new elements that crashes it or cause problems |
| 21:19.43 | Xinhuan | but that typically doesn't hang wow |
| 21:19.51 | Xinhuan | lua just reports an error |
| 21:20.01 | CIA-39 | 03paene * r68986 10Cryolysis2/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:20.01 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:20.01 | CIA-39 | - Removed more manual translations for items |
| 21:20.14 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4} for k in pairs(t) do t[2] = nil end |
| 21:20.14 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: No output |
| 21:20.34 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4} for k in pairs(t) do t[3] = nil end |
| 21:20.34 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: No output |
| 21:21.19 | Elsia | well frankly I don't know what the loop was then, basically I changed that little bit and haven't been able to reproduce the hang since... before it was 100% reliable to just click combatants details |
| 21:21.31 | CIA-39 | 03paene * r68987 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (6 files): |
| 21:21.31 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:21.31 | CIA-39 | - Forgot to update some locales |
| 21:21.43 | Xinhuan | well hope its fixed |
| 21:22.02 | Xinhuan | i think they are a little bit afraid of clicking on combatants now haha |
| 21:22.08 | Elsia | ;) |
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| 21:25.09 | NeoTron | in our last try of brutallus lastnight I was rolling at 2750 DPS (warlock) |
| 21:25.20 | NeoTron | then the tank died and it went south but it was fun while it lasted |
| 21:25.25 | [Endeavour] | which one is triggered later? oninitialize or onenable? |
| 21:25.29 | Paene | Hm...anyone know of a user friendly way to allow someone to customize spell messages? By spell messages, I mean messages that are displayed when a specific spell is cast. |
| 21:26.40 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r68988 10/trunk/ (15 files in 15 dirs): .trunk: StatBlocks: bump the tocs for 2.4 >.< |
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| 21:27.42 | whatsinthename | is there a way to change the mailicon on the mailframe? |
| 21:28.18 | Dashkal | [Endeavour]: :OnInitialize is always before :OnEnable (onenable relates to suspend/resume, oninit is always on login/reload) |
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| 21:28.31 | [Endeavour] | thanks! |
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| 21:30.04 | Shotski | Is it just me, or does the "WelcomeHome" example for Ace3 turn into an Ace2 addon in the final chunk of code? |
| 21:30.34 | Shotski | I'm new to everything, and it looked very useful at the start - now it's lost me as things aren't working. |
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| 21:31.53 | Industrial | Shotski: " Needs large re-write, to match the uncompleted re-writes above" |
| 21:32.09 | Shotski | I guessed as much |
| 21:32.19 | Industrial | Shotski: its not finished so yes, thats probably old. |
| 21:32.37 | CIA-39 | 03elsia * r68989 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: |
| 21:32.37 | CIA-39 | Recount: |
| 21:32.37 | CIA-39 | - Fixed formating of bar text if PerSec stat is not available. |
| 21:32.41 | Bruners | 1% illidan wipe >< |
| 21:33.26 | hypetech | I wonder if Lossendil is suffering from the fact that log files are like 3x larger than they used to be >.> |
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| 21:34.44 | Grum | <NeoTron> in our last try of brutallus lastnight I was rolling at 2750 DPS (warlock) <== how long into the fight? |
| 21:34.47 | Grum | >3m ? |
| 21:35.02 | Grum | and you geared for dmg or crit? |
| 21:39.49 | Chompers | both :D |
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| 21:44.22 | dodga | Is there an addon, that enables auto-loot while solo'ing and disables it when joining a party/raid? |
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| 21:46.20 | Bruners | the shift key |
| 21:46.23 | hypetech | ^ |
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| 21:49.30 | dodga | diaf. :> |
| 21:56.13 | ArrowmasterClass | bah having to use my debit card from a school computer to put money on my school account so i can get out of the parking lot when i leave ftl |
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| 21:58.08 | Cheads | hmm starting latest whodrop: WhoDropData_Drop.lua:453: attempt to index global 'BB' (a nil value) blah |
| 21:58.17 | grennon | okay, chatframe_addmessageeventfilter has me intrigued, does anyone know of a mod using it that i could look for usage examples? |
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| 22:01.44 | kilrogg | Hmm, does anybody know if there are plans for a new inventory addon Baggins/Arkinventory style that is NO memory hog and has NO bugs ? |
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| 22:02.10 | hypetech | kilrogg: bagnon is okay |
| 22:02.14 | hypetech | what's wrong with baggins? |
| 22:02.25 | Diao | how's combuctor |
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| 22:03.12 | kilrogg | combuctor doesn't have the filter capabilities and seems to be no longer actively developed ... the quality was nice though |
| 22:03.34 | Noct1 | Combuctor = god. |
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| 22:03.57 | Noct1 | And it is, tuller's already got it released to a stable beta, so he's not releasing a 1.0 until he's finished fine tuning Bongos3, IIRC. |
| 22:04.31 | kilrogg | ah, okay. I'll try bagnon and combuctor again. thanks for the tip. |
| 22:04.46 | Noct1 | Well, to be fair, what filtering options are you looking for? |
| 22:04.52 | Noct1 | It'll never be a baggins/ark |
| 22:05.13 | Noct1 | But the filtering by rarity, name search, and catagories (consumable, equipment, etc) should sustain for now until he decides how to further enhance the filters. |
| 22:07.00 | kilrogg | filtering by consumable/profession/soulbound will suffice |
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| 22:10.01 | Trevor__ | Does anyone know where I should ask about an addon bug I've been having? |
| 22:10.06 | Chaud | no. |
| 22:10.25 | whatsinthename | can someone answer the question posted at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12727.0 |
| 22:11.23 | Snago | Trevor__: It depends. What addon? |
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| 22:12.23 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r68990 10MobSpells/MobSpells.lua: MobSpells: Insert MobSpells into UISpecialFrames |
| 22:13.15 | Nechckn_SomeZs | whatsinthename take a look at how Beancounter changes the mail icon- http://svn.norganna.org/auctioneer/trunk/BeanCounter/ |
| 22:13.39 | whatsinthename | ty |
| 22:14.11 | Nechckn_SomeZs | beancounter changes the icon a few different ways- our in-house person isn't on atm or I'd send him your way. |
| 22:14.15 | Trevor__ | Skillet |
| 22:14.25 | kilrogg | speaking of combuctor again ... is it in ace svn branches or should i take the google code version ? |
| 22:14.28 | Trevor__ | Its blacking out all my tradeskills. |
| 22:15.09 | Tuller | kilrogg: I don't stick any of my addons on the ace avn :P |
| 22:15.11 | Tuller | err svn |
| 22:15.25 | kilrogg | ah, k :D |
| 22:15.27 | kilrogg | thx |
| 22:15.27 | Snago | Trevor__: Try http://jira.wowace.com/browse/SKL |
| 22:17.47 | ArrowmasterClass | grennon: I dont know of anything thats using that new function yet, but you can look at the default ui to get a general idea of how it works, you give it a string with the name of the event and a function to run arg1 through (you should be able to check the rest of the args by using the globals) and your function returns a bool and a modified arg1 (if you want, leave nil to not change) |
| 22:18.01 | Beutju | is there any api command to speak to npcs? |
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| 22:19.03 | CIA-39 | 03paene * r68991 10Cryolysis2/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:19.03 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 22:19.03 | CIA-39 | - Removed even more manual translations for items |
| 22:19.03 | hypetech | Beutju: I don't think there is anything that can initiate the conversation window, but there are commands to navigate through the windows once they are up |
| 22:19.04 | ArrowmasterClass | grennon: i dont remember if the bool needs to be true or false to prevent the default ui from processing the rest of it, but if you give it the right one it should be an easy way to do stuff like hide outgoing whispers that begin with a certain text |
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| 22:19.53 | pan861 | http://ninja-net.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:19.54 | pan861 | -_- |
| 22:19.57 | pan861 | inspiring stuff |
| 22:20.27 | CIA-39 | 03stan * r68992 10ClassTimer/ (14 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:20.27 | CIA-39 | ClassTimer: no more BabbleSpell. I feel like a chinese robot now after copypasting all those IDs :( |
| 22:20.28 | CIA-39 | ~hug Xinhuan |
| 22:20.28 | purl | ACTION hugs Xinhuan |
| 22:20.50 | ckknight | chinese robot? |
| 22:21.13 | Trevor__ | thanks |
| 22:21.36 | Stanzilla | yes :( |
| 22:21.42 | Stanzilla | my "c" key burns :( |
| 22:23.54 | sylvanaar | now do i pay for another month - or call it quits - that is the question of the day |
| 22:24.09 | grennon | ArrowmasterClass: thanks |
| 22:24.43 | Ackis | sylvanaar: of wow? |
| 22:25.14 | Ackis | ckknight: mind if I do my anti-babblespell crusade on PitBull_RangeCheck? |
| 22:25.22 | ckknight | go hog-wild |
| 22:25.42 | Ackis | oinks |
| 22:25.50 | sylvanaar | yeah, i am out of prepaid time |
| 22:25.57 | grennon | ArrowmasterClass: i found a mod called zomgbuffs in the svn that uses it |
| 22:26.01 | ckknight | that's the spirit |
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| 22:26.28 | Ackis | sylvanaar: what I've done lately is buy game time with ingame gold... people will sell game cards for 800-1000g |
| 22:26.40 | Paene | Ackis: I'm gonna be removing BS from my mod over the next few days :) |
| 22:27.15 | ArrowmasterClass | Ackis: rofl |
| 22:27.28 | Ackis | it's not fun Paene, I just did a huge update to ARL and kinda went a bit crazy |
| 22:27.33 | Paene | yeah |
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| 22:27.43 | Paene | I never knew GetItemInfo returned localized item name |
| 22:27.44 | Paene | s |
| 22:27.50 | Paene | so I've been fixing that atm |
| 22:27.54 | Cheads | Ackis: WhoDrop acts up after you anti-babble crusade: WhoDrop\WhoDropData_Drop.lua:453: attempt to index global 'BB' (a nil value) .. or am I missing something? |
| 22:27.55 | Paene | since it's less used than BS |
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| 22:28.57 | Ackis | I didn't remove BabbleBoss from it, just updated to 3.0 |
| 22:29.07 | Ackis | i'll take a looksee in a second |
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| 22:30.16 | CIA-39 | 03broesel01 * r68993 10Quiet_Npc/ (5 files): |
| 22:30.16 | CIA-39 | Quiet_Npc |
| 22:30.16 | CIA-39 | - Npc's geaddet |
| 22:30.16 | CIA-39 | - Höllenfeuerhalbinsel geaddet |
| 22:30.16 | CIA-39 | - Wälder von Terokkar geaddet |
| 22:30.56 | ben | ' is not for plurals goddamnit >:[ |
| 22:31.55 | Paene | that can't be fun looking up all those spellid's |
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| 22:33.37 | Dashkal | Poor Hortus.. He things he can make the public understand the difference between a bug fix and a feature change... |
| 22:34.07 | Dashkal | Not a job I'd ever want... |
| 22:35.58 | CIA-39 | 03stan * r68994 10ClassTimer/ (15 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: comments and cleanup |
| 22:36.21 | Paene | hm...here's a question...would using select(1, GetItemInfo(itemname)) act the same as just GetItemInfo(name) when passing it as an argument for a function? |
| 22:36.52 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r68995 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Bar.lua MacroSupport.lua): InfiniBar-2.0 - Fixed bug where deleting a button group wants to remove a ButtonFacade group, even if BF isn't in use. Fixed a bug when /use 13 or similar references an empty inventory slot. |
| 22:37.05 | Gagorian | Paene: yes |
| 22:37.17 | ArrowmasterClass | Paene: are you doing func(GetItemInfo(name))? |
| 22:37.18 | Gagorian | If you only want to pass the first one use () around it |
| 22:37.52 | Zhinjio | ckknight: howdy |
| 22:37.59 | ckknight | hey Zhinjio |
| 22:38.00 | ckknight | how're you today? |
| 22:39.01 | Paene | for example: GetItemCount(select(1,GetItemInfo(Cryolysis2.Private.WaterName[i]))) vs GetItemCount(GetItemInfo(Cryolysis2.Private.WaterName[i])) |
| 22:39.21 | ArrowmasterClass | exactly the same |
| 22:39.25 | Paene | kk |
| 22:39.27 | Paene | thanks :) |
| 22:39.27 | Ackis | MKACTIVITY of blah blah blah: 403 Forbidden means that the mod is locked for changes? |
| 22:39.29 | ArrowmasterClass | except the first one has an extra func call |
| 22:39.32 | Zhinjio | I have a monster headache that won't quit. |
| 22:39.38 | Paene | which makes it slower :) |
| 22:39.40 | ArrowmasterClass | Ackis: which? |
| 22:39.40 | Zhinjio | I'm resorting to caffeine. |
| 22:39.45 | Ackis | Pitbull |
| 22:39.54 | ArrowmasterClass | no clue |
| 22:40.02 | ArrowmasterClass | you know who to poke |
| 22:40.11 | Ackis | i know *evil grin* |
| 22:40.30 | Zhinjio | Hey Ackis! |
| 22:40.32 | Ackis | sup |
| 22:42.02 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r68996 10/branches/InfiniBar-2.0/: InfiniBar-2.0 - Branching to work on reprogramming IB_Button.lua. |
| 22:43.01 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r68997 10Cartographer_Noteshare/ (3 files): |
| 22:43.01 | CIA-39 | Cartographer_Noteshare: |
| 22:43.01 | CIA-39 | - Bumped TOC. |
| 22:43.01 | CIA-39 | - Removed Babble-Spell. |
| 22:43.16 | JJSheets | is away: Dinner. |
| 22:44.35 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r68998 10WhoDrop/WhoDropData_Drop.lua: |
| 22:44.35 | CIA-39 | WhoDrop |
| 22:44.35 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:45.40 | CIA-39 | 03rabbit * r68999 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Fix guild roster updating. |
| 22:46.16 | CIA-39 | 03darravis * r69000 10SmartyCatManaBar/ (. SmartyCatManaBar.lua SmartyCatManaBar.toc embeds.xml): |
| 22:46.16 | CIA-39 | SmartyCatManaBar: |
| 22:46.16 | CIA-39 | -Now uses LibDruidMana-1.0, SmartyCat is no longer required |
| 22:46.16 | CIA-39 | -Added LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 22:46.42 | elsia | nite |
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| 22:51.26 | Paene | there's no replacement for Babble-zone is there? |
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| 22:54.38 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r69001 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatBlacklist.lua): |
| 22:54.38 | CIA-39 | Threat-2.0: |
| 22:54.39 | CIA-39 | - Add :GetPlayerAtPosition(hostileGuid, position) to get the GUID and threat of the player at position N on a given mob's threat list. Sorta expensive so don't call it in OnUpdate or anything. |
| 22:54.39 | CIA-39 | - Remove Aran from the blacklist. People use threat on him apparently. |
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| 22:56.36 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: thats just dumb. Not blaming you, of course. |
| 22:57.19 | Zhinjio | I'd like to hear how people use threat meters on him. |
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| 22:57.47 | Ackis | well my son, they are quite powerful |
| 22:58.08 | Ackis | see what i did there?!?! |
| 22:59.16 | Yssaril | Zhinjio, he still has a threat table and will slowely but surely move closer to you and wack you between spells |
| 22:59.41 | Yssaril | Zhinjio, not that it ever should be a problem but there are some sloooowwwww people out there :) |
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| 23:00.29 | Zhinjio | um, I read somewhere that he completely resets threat on every flame wreath |
| 23:00.52 | Ackis | only if you move during it |
| 23:01.04 | Zhinjio | heh, thats not a threat reset, thats a wipe. *grin* |
| 23:01.10 | Zhinjio | which, I suppose... is a threat reset |
| 23:01.15 | Ackis | ding! |
| 23:01.43 | Ackis | ck: I just mailed you the lua/toc files for rangecheck since i couldn't check them in myself, hope that's ok |
| 23:01.53 | charon | Antiarc: *nag* |
| 23:02.05 | Zhinjio | seriously though... I thought thats how he worked. or maybe our groups have always just downed him too fast to notice. *shrug* |
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| 23:02.59 | Yssaril | Zhinjio, reminds me of my greatest moment aran dies with flame wreath up and i move thru it twice :) (its good to have a guild where you can do stupid shit every now and then) |
| 23:03.01 | Ackis | i haven't done badgazhan in a while =/ |
| 23:03.08 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 23:03.25 | Zhinjio | that place is seriously a badge pin^ata. |
| 23:03.32 | Ackis | more badges than BT |
| 23:03.39 | Zhinjio | 22 badges for 4 hours work. not too damn bad. |
| 23:03.41 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r69002 10BigWigs/Plugins/TargetMonitor.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/TargetMonitor; Send the UnitGUID in the even trigger as an extra for future use |
| 23:03.44 | dylanm | And so easy. |
| 23:03.46 | Ackis | 4 hours of work? |
| 23:03.47 | pastamancer | <3 kara badger farming |
| 23:03.49 | Zhinjio | we're doing weekend alt runs now that are all kara for badges |
| 23:04.01 | Zhinjio | just as many alts as mains in them |
| 23:04.28 | Ackis | i saw a screenshot of T7 gear, and all it had was a toon equipped with badges... i laughed |
| 23:04.46 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: 4 hours? =x |
| 23:05.04 | Zhinjio | 7:30 to 11:30, yeah. |
| 23:05.08 | NivFreak | Ackis: I'd love to see that screenshot\ |
| 23:05.13 | NivFreak | Zicon: chain pull! |
| 23:05.23 | NivFreak | er |
| 23:05.23 | Zicon | Hey, lay off my chains. |
| 23:05.27 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: chain pull |
| 23:05.38 | Paene | ~api GetSpellInfo |
| 23:05.38 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo |
| 23:05.52 | NivFreak | You could do it in 4 hours if you stopped to take a nap in the middle ;) |
| 23:05.52 | Zhinjio | yeah, with two good tanks, we can fly through there |
| 23:06.05 | NivFreak | We run through in 2.5->3 hours on alts |
| 23:06.22 | NivFreak | some people are doing in less than 2 hours they say |
| 23:06.23 | Zhinjio | skipping what bosses? |
| 23:06.24 | NivFreak | which is pretty nuts |
| 23:06.28 | NivFreak | we skip nothing zhin |
| 23:06.33 | NivFreak | 22 badges in 2.5ish hours |
| 23:06.38 | Zhinjio | well, you're too leet for me. |
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| 23:06.42 | Zicon | Less than two hours? WTF, I want to see that. |
| 23:06.51 | NivFreak | yea, I don't know how you can do < 2 hours |
| 23:06.59 | NivFreak | We move very quickly to do it in 2.5 |
| 23:07.08 | Delorala | zicon thats pretty easy, but.. expect t5/t6 players ;) |
| 23:07.15 | NivFreak | I dunno |
| 23:07.15 | Yssaril | NivFreak, do you do the animal boss ? :P |
| 23:07.21 | NivFreak | our top t6 guild does it in ~2.5 hours |
| 23:07.26 | NivFreak | Yssaril: nah, we skip him |
| 23:07.28 | dylanm | I mean there's a difference between the alts and mains. |
| 23:07.28 | NivFreak | fuck that trash |
| 23:07.31 | NivFreak | and no badges |
| 23:07.33 | dylanm | The mains are quicker but they sort of need it less. |
| 23:07.41 | Delorala | we did it today in ~ 2,5 hours, some t5, litte t6, 2 twinks... easy going with a prot pala ;) |
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| 23:08.18 | Yssaril | NivFreak, lol agreed and the loot sucks (well its shardworthy but not worth the time) |
| 23:08.32 | NivFreak | shards aren't worth it |
| 23:08.39 | NivFreak | if you could just clear trash to him and kill him, maybe |
| 23:08.45 | NivFreak | but the timed clearing spawn timer stuff is bullshit |
| 23:08.57 | NivFreak | I'll never figure out what the hell was wrong with blizzard |
| 23:09.05 | NivFreak | when they designed that |
| 23:09.11 | Corey | is there any mod like simple unit frames that still works? |
| 23:10.01 | dylanm | Is that anything like Archeologist? |
| 23:10.53 | Diao | 2.5 hrs with t6? o_O |
| 23:11.00 | Corey | what is archeologist |
| 23:11.01 | Diao | there must be a limit on how fast you can pull then |
| 23:11.26 | NivFreak | We were doing 2.5 hours in tier4 |
| 23:11.28 | NivFreak | it's not that bad |
| 23:11.37 | Diao | yeah |
| 23:11.38 | NivFreak | just chain pull |
| 23:11.43 | Diao | we're in t4 and clear in ~2.5 |
| 23:11.47 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:11.57 | NivFreak | and usually that's with a 5-10 min break |
| 23:12.26 | NivFreak | 2 healers is the way to do it |
| 23:12.27 | taskulraf | I've done 1h45m with half t6 half alt in t4. Not to brag or anything because I'm sure someone can claim to do better. |
| 23:12.37 | NivFreak | I wish we could push through ZA with two healers |
| 23:12.45 | Diao | we've done it with 2 healers since we started kara >.> |
| 23:12.48 | taskulraf | 2 healer / 1 tank / rest dps |
| 23:12.48 | NivFreak | taskulraf: that's pretty impressive |
| 23:12.54 | NivFreak | pally tank? |
| 23:12.58 | Diao | never understood why people do it with 3 :p |
| 23:13.03 | taskulraf | done it with both pally and warrior. |
| 23:13.06 | Diao | warriors can solo tank it |
| 23:13.15 | NivFreak | moroes is rougher |
| 23:13.19 | NivFreak | with a single warrior |
| 23:13.25 | NivFreak | as is romio and jullianne |
| 23:13.31 | NivFreak | romulo whatever |
| 23:13.36 | taskulraf | the two priest adds can be off tanked by a rogue |
| 23:13.47 | NivFreak | priest adds? |
| 23:13.50 | taskulraf | on moroes |
| 23:13.50 | NivFreak | you mean moroes? |
| 23:13.52 | NivFreak | it's the stun |
| 23:13.54 | NivFreak | not the adds |
| 23:14.07 | NivFreak | stun == deaggro |
| 23:14.09 | NivFreak | so you have to turn your back |
| 23:14.12 | NivFreak | to avoid it |
| 23:14.18 | NivFreak | I've done it, it's just sketchy |
| 23:14.26 | Paene | how do you find spellid's on wowhead? |
| 23:14.28 | taskulraf | we usually have a feral or a dps warr who can put on a shield |
| 23:14.35 | NivFreak | so, that's two tanks :P |
| 23:14.35 | charon | a rogue can evasion/pocketwatch moroes during stun |
| 23:14.35 | Paene | nvm |
| 23:14.38 | taskulraf | and he dies so fast anyways it's a non issue |
| 23:14.42 | charon | my guild did that for a while |
| 23:14.45 | Corey | so, simple unit frames, anything like it that still works...? |
| 23:14.48 | CIA-39 | 03broesel01 * r69003 10Quiet_Npc/ (Quiet_Npc - ReadMe.txt Quiet_Npc.toc Quiet_WvT.lua): |
| 23:14.48 | CIA-39 | Quiet_Npc |
| 23:14.48 | CIA-39 | - Npc's geaddet |
| 23:14.48 | CIA-39 | - Bugfix |
| 23:14.58 | NivFreak | I suspect free action pots break moroe's stun |
| 23:15.01 | NivFreak | but I've never tried |
| 23:15.05 | NivFreak | you can single tank him |
| 23:15.05 | taskulraf | I dont consider it a tank unless they're wearing tank gear =P |
| 23:15.07 | NivFreak | it's just scetchyt |
| 23:15.11 | taskulraf | it's just a guy with aggro otherwise! |
| 23:15.16 | NivFreak | SS/Rev/Dev turn around |
| 23:15.17 | NivFreak | repeat |
| 23:15.38 | Diao | yeah you just turn your back to moroes |
| 23:15.41 | Diao | and he can't gouge |
| 23:15.43 | Diao | lol |
| 23:16.16 | NivFreak | yea, and his crushes are nothing to worry about |
| 23:16.18 | Xelopheris | What revision of Threat-2.0 that wasn't backwards compatible? |
| 23:16.27 | Cryect | well a warrior shouldn't ever get gouged against him |
| 23:16.28 | NivFreak | a Paladin can single tank him just facing away |
| 23:16.35 | NivFreak | Cryect: huh? |
| 23:16.41 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r69004 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist: start using LSM-3 callbacks |
| 23:16.43 | Cryect | Shield Block basically is always up |
| 23:16.50 | Cryect | if its blocked by a shield the gouge does nothign |
| 23:16.50 | Xelopheris | not against DW'ers |
| 23:16.57 | Diao | what |
| 23:16.58 | NivFreak | Cryect: wrong |
| 23:17.02 | NivFreak | 100% wrong |
| 23:17.02 | Diao | i keep sb up all the time and i still get gouged |
| 23:17.08 | Diao | you can't block moroes gouge |
| 23:17.18 | charon | Xelopheris: threat knows that and omen will display it in the outdated clients check |
| 23:17.18 | Xelopheris | and you have to have like, 1000 block value too, since gouge hits for a fair bit |
| 23:17.24 | [eu]gunder | but Moroes has to be in front of you :D |
| 23:17.27 | Cryect | Oh is it a strong damage gougee |
| 23:17.40 | NivFreak | as far as I know it ignores block mechanics |
| 23:17.43 | charon | Xelopheris: currently LAST_BACKWARDS_COMPATIBLE_REVISION = 67545 |
| 23:17.43 | NivFreak | at least the effect does |
| 23:17.43 | Cryect | well it works if you reduce the gouge damage to 0 |
| 23:17.52 | NivFreak | you might be able to block the dmg, but not the gouge |
| 23:17.59 | Diao | you can dodge and parry and miss the gouges though |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-39 | 03drool * r69005 10Nauticus/ (NautCore.lua Nauticus.toc changes.txt data.lua): |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-39 | Nauticus: |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-39 | - bump version and TOC |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-39 | - all routes recalibrated for patch 2.4, finally |
| 23:18.02 | CIA-39 | - more accurate rtt calcs for exo2aub and rtv2ds to follow |
| 23:18.10 | Corey | so moroes is the topic now then instead of questions? |
| 23:18.18 | Cryect | questions? |
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| 23:18.47 | grennon | Tekkub: ping |
| 23:18.51 | Cryect | when are questions the topic? |
| 23:19.15 | Corey | well considering the chan is wowace and not karazhan i donno, i figured it would be more related to that |
| 23:19.19 | Corey | silly me |
| 23:19.24 | NivFreak | this channel is random |
| 23:19.33 | NivFreak | and usually |
| 23:19.35 | NivFreak | if people don't answer |
| 23:19.37 | dylanm | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/SimpleUnitFrames/SimpleUnitFrames.toc |
| 23:19.40 | NivFreak | it's because they have nothing to add |
| 23:19.44 | dylanm | This seems to indicate that it has been updated. Does it not work? |
| 23:19.50 | [eu]gunder | people just insert wowace at random times in their sentences |
| 23:19.51 | Corey | no |
| 23:20.02 | Corey | it shows #error for people's life |
| 23:20.03 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 23:20.32 | Cryect | hmmm JoshBorke, you're at GA Tech? |
| 23:20.57 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 23:20.59 | Paene | How does GetSpellInfo handle spells with the same name, but multiple ranks...i.e. GetSpellInfo("Conjure Water")? Keep in mind, when using the spell name, it returns nil if the spell doesn't exist. My question is what rank of the spell will it return? |
| 23:21.20 | Cryect | I should come down there and stalk you! |
| 23:21.26 | JoshBorke | where are you? |
| 23:21.30 | CIA-39 | 03darravis * r69006 10SmartyCatManaBar/: |
| 23:21.30 | CIA-39 | SmartyCatManaBar: |
| 23:21.30 | CIA-39 | -externals |
| 23:21.34 | Arrowmaster | Paene: max |
| 23:21.49 | Paene | nice! |
| 23:21.58 | dylanm | Your externals are good and everything? Could be a problem with LibMobHealth. |
| 23:22.13 | Cryect | I live over in Decatur |
| 23:22.52 | JoshBorke | ah, cool |
| 23:22.58 | JoshBorke | i didn't know you were in ga |
| 23:23.08 | Corey | dylanm i just used the updater everything should be good |
| 23:23.14 | taskulraf | I tried playing with SimpleCombatLog earlier and it didnt seem to be working still. What I want is to be able to filter the combat log to watch on particular units and remove particular spells. Blizz's wannabe SCL can't do it this finely as far as I can tell. |
| 23:23.18 | Cryect | Well thats where CCP Games in North America is |
| 23:23.24 | taskulraf | any info / alternatives / suggestions? |
| 23:23.33 | Arrowmaster | taskulraf: try combatfilter |
| 23:23.53 | dylanm | No one's updating SCL as far as I can tell. |
| 23:24.28 | taskulraf | ok. I guess I'll try CombatFilter then. |
| 23:24.30 | dylanm | Corey: Check the Unit Mods category at wowi. There's something called Travis' Extensions that looks okay. |
| 23:24.50 | Corey | dylanm thank you |
| 23:25.12 | dylanm | I've never used SimpleUnitFrames so I have no idea what you're really looking for and most people use total UF replacements. |
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| 23:25.37 | Corey | it just adds the health to the default frames in a CT kind of style |
| 23:25.39 | dylanm | It's not that we said, "fuck you we're talking about Karazhan." |
| 23:25.53 | dylanm | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7974-TravsUnitFrameExtensions.html |
| 23:26.12 | Corey | yea that looks good, thanks |
| 23:26.50 | dylanm | I googled. It's not hard! |
| 23:27.01 | vithos | isn't that in the default ui options? |
| 23:27.06 | vithos | always show health |
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| 23:27.59 | vithos | or are you wanting health estimation for mobs |
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| 23:28.25 | JoshBorke | Cryect: i see. well if you want to come down for lunch some time, just let me know |
| 23:29.03 | Corey | percents for mobs |
| 23:30.02 | Fix[EJ] | I wonder how many progression raiders raid without omen and/or bigwigs |
| 23:31.05 | dylanm | I'm sure there are people out there that consider themselves as such and don't use it. |
| 23:31.05 | Arrowmaster | sadly i think a few snuck into our raids with DBM |
| 23:31.05 | dylanm | But it would seem to put you at a disadvantage. |
| 23:31.05 | Fix[EJ] | Yeah |
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| 23:31.15 | Cryect | Shrug never used threat meters for Naxx |
| 23:31.19 | Fix[EJ] | I can see healers not using Omen, maybe, but...everyone should have BigWigs |
| 23:31.26 | Fix[EJ] | DBM is okay too, same functions generally. |
| 23:31.32 | dylanm | Well like I'm not saying you can't beat those encounters. |
| 23:31.43 | pastamancer | I could see some guilds having in-house bossmods |
| 23:31.47 | dylanm | That too. |
| 23:31.49 | dylanm | Risennn. |
| 23:31.53 | Cryect | we used IMBA since I was coding it but most encounters I would say you didn't need bossmods |
| 23:32.08 | *** part/#wowace Corey (i=Corey@unaffiliated/corey) |
| 23:32.27 | Cryect | BigWigs comes out too fast now to barely bother with in house boss mods and there is little advanced features you can really add to boss mods :-p |
| 23:32.32 | Cryect | since 2.0 that is |
| 23:32.53 | Gnarfoz | http://ace.pastey.net/85487 <-- Grid error that comes up every time I log in oO |
| 23:33.30 | Gnarfoz | also, Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/85488 <-- I don't even remember what I was doing, but perhaps you can use that info nonetheless ;) |
| 23:33.48 | CIA-39 | 03drool * r69007 10Nauticus/changes.txt: Nauticus: update changes.txt for package release |
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| 23:34.21 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: it looks like your layout doesn't exist yet... are you using an auto-layout mod? |
| 23:34.27 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 23:34.40 | Gnarfoz | did anything change that requires those to be updated? |
| 23:34.48 | Gnarfoz | (GridLayoutPlus would be the one I use) |
| 23:35.10 | Cryect | JoshBorke, maybe some weekend then |
| 23:36.17 | CIA-39 | 03pastamancer * r69008 10Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: Don't try to load a raid layout if it doesn't have any groups. |
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| 23:38.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart pastamancer |
| 23:38.01 | purl | throws pastamancer's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 23:39.38 | CIA-39 | 03ackis * r69009 10PitBull/RangeCheck/ (PitBull_RangeCheck.toc RangeCheck.lua): |
| 23:39.38 | CIA-39 | PitBull |
| 23:39.38 | CIA-39 | - Removed BabbleSpell from RangeCheck OINK OINK!!!!! |
| 23:39.45 | ckknight | squee! |
| 23:39.51 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:40.04 | ckknight | I should make a pig-themed addon. |
| 23:40.23 | Ackis | something to do with loot? |
| 23:40.41 | ckknight | not necessary |
| 23:40.44 | ckknight | necessarily* |
| 23:41.50 | alcaras | hrm, why does ebb always have 1 of it's buffbars show up in the middle of the screen (where it's supposed to be), but with it's anchor ALWAYS showing, even though i uncheck show anchor and log out to save settings |
| 23:42.13 | Ellipsis | Ackis: you rule |
| 23:42.26 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:42.32 | Ackis | ck told me to go hog wild |
| 23:42.39 | Ellipsis | I've been putting off doing that for so long, you have no idea :P |
| 23:42.45 | Ackis | rofl |
| 23:45.41 | durcyn | now for _Auras... |
| 23:46.19 | Paene | Any reason why GetItemInfo(itemID) would be returning nil? |
| 23:47.01 | Ellipsis | durcyn: ? |
| 23:47.14 | Cryect | its not in your cache? |
| 23:47.16 | Ellipsis | Paene: item not cached |
| 23:47.34 | durcyn | Ellipsis: Auras/Update.lua still references BS, in unpleasant ways |
| 23:47.42 | Ellipsis | srsly? |
| 23:47.53 | Paene | how could mana emerald not be in my cache? |
| 23:47.54 | Paene | lame |
| 23:47.59 | Pkekyo| | ZOMG HAI PEEPULS |
| 23:48.07 | Ellipsis | I thought ck had it all 2.4-ready once we dropped filter23.lua |
| 23:48.23 | durcyn | actually on second glance it's just using :GetSpellIcon |
| 23:48.27 | durcyn | so that's not so bad |
| 23:48.39 | Funkeh` | Cryect, spells aren't coming from a cache |
| 23:48.44 | Funkeh` | they come from game files |
| 23:48.50 | Cryect | he said GetItemINfo |
| 23:48.52 | durcyn | Funkeh`: GetItemInfo =P |
| 23:48.54 | Cryect | not GetSpellInfo |
| 23:48.59 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 23:49.03 | Paene | Does cache reset each patch? |
| 23:49.03 | Funkeh` | nvm then :P |
| 23:49.08 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 23:49.09 | Cryect | yes |
| 23:49.09 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 23:49.17 | Cryect | its your wdb folder |
| 23:49.18 | Funkeh` | no |
| 23:49.24 | Funkeh` | just to be different |
| 23:49.29 | ckknight | who here uses git? |
| 23:49.33 | Paene | so you can't use GetItemInfo to retrieve localized item names? |
| 23:49.42 | Paene | right after patch |
| 23:49.43 | Paene | that is |
| 23:49.46 | Ellipsis | you can, but you have to make sure to cache the item first |
| 23:49.46 | Cryect | Unless they have seen the item yeah you can't |
| 23:49.54 | Cryect | but you can force a cache |
| 23:49.55 | durcyn | ckknight: if by 'use', you mean 'muddle through clone/pull occasionally', then yes |
| 23:50.01 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:50.13 | ckknight | well, I'm working on git support for curseforge and I'm thinking about the directory structure |
| 23:50.36 | Paene | how do you force a cache? |
| 23:50.47 | ckknight | option 1: git://git.curseforge.net/mah-project.git - pretty standard |
| 23:51.00 | Ellipsis | set a tooltip to show the item and then wait until getiteminfo stops returning nil |
| 23:51.04 | ckknight | option 2: git://git.curseforge.net/mah-project/mainline.git - allows for arbitrary forks much easier |
| 23:51.22 | Funkeh` | ckknight, #2 |
| 23:51.27 | WobWork | agreed |
| 23:51.43 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I'm thinking so |
| 23:51.44 | WobWork | You want to set it up to be as flexible as possible |
| 23:52.27 | ckknight | basically, if you're a random user, e.g. WobWork, and you're like Cart3 sucks balls, I wanna fork, you should be able to push the fork button, name it "awesomesauce", and you're the new project manager of git://git.curseforge.net/cartographer3/awesomesauce.git |
| 23:52.45 | ckknight | compared to making a whole new project (which is also possible, but is less friendly) |
| 23:52.55 | WobWork | and doesn't really link to the original project |
| 23:53.00 | ckknight | WobWork: right. |
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| 23:53.15 | ckknight | and at any time, mainline could pull from awesomesauce |
| 23:53.15 | Arrowmaster | so your making forks different from branches? |
| 23:53.18 | ckknight | or vice-versa |
| 23:53.25 | WobWork | Well they're the same thing |
| 23:53.25 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: well, the difference is ownership |
| 23:53.38 | ckknight | branches would still be in mainline.git |
| 23:53.41 | WobWork | I guess it could also depend on what licence it's under |
| 23:53.42 | ckknight | as many as you want |
| 23:53.48 | ckknight | as long as you have permission |
| 23:54.04 | WobWork | mainline could pull from awesomesauce simply due to licencing allowances |
| 23:54.05 | ckknight | but a fork could be some random user's doing without the author's guidance |
| 23:54.41 | ckknight | basically branches = friendly, forks = less friendly, still the same project, though, new project = very unfriendly |
| 23:54.46 | Arrowmaster | which probably wouldnt be a good think to keep under the same dir |
| 23:55.23 | ckknight | I think that it'd be better overall to have a clean forking mechanism rather than making people start new projects |
| 23:55.46 | ckknight | note: the fork button would only show up with open source licenses, methinks |
| 23:55.51 | Arrowmaster | dont let just anybody fork though under the same project name |
| 23:56.02 | ckknight | ...why not? |
| 23:56.10 | ckknight | as long as the license allows |
| 23:56.32 | Arrowmaster | license may allow it but doesnt mean you can keep the same name |
| 23:56.36 | ckknight | and the details of the project would only show mainline's, to get your own project page, you'd have to start your own project |
| 23:57.09 | WobWork | There's not -really- that much functional difference between a fork and a branch is there? |
| 23:57.20 | WobWork | merely in the end focus of the project |
| 23:57.26 | ckknight | WobWork: forks are different repos, branches are in the same repo |
| 23:57.40 | WobWork | oh. |
| 23:57.43 | WobWork | yeah |
| 23:57.44 | Arrowmaster | keep the same repo imho |
| 23:57.51 | ckknight | you can switch to branches with ease, you can pull from forks |
| 23:57.53 | ckknight | but they're different |
| 23:58.09 | WobWork | Yeah, SomeOtherAwesomeGravy.git |
| 23:58.22 | Ellipsis | mmm, gravy |
| 23:58.23 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: if it's the same repo, then the author has to give permissions to the other author to commit or the other author has to make their own project |
| 23:58.25 | WobWork | rather than a part of the original .git |
| 23:58.43 | Dark_Elf | too many cooks in the kitchen makes a bad stew! |
| 23:59.13 | ckknight | btw, the mainline way is what gitorious.org uses, it seems very nice |
| 23:59.54 | Arrowmaster | how do premissions work with git? thats one thing i havent learned much about |
