IRC log for #wowace on 20080404

00:00.08Ayththe wws i linked the rogue only had 1 glaive for the kill and did 2.2k
00:00.16quiescensreplace all the dps with warlocks, with small sprinklings of elem shaman and shadow priests
00:00.19Aythhe got a second glaive though... so tonight should kick ass
00:00.35mykxyeah no doubt Ayth
00:00.45Aythwe actually finished 2 sets in 2 weeks
00:00.53Aythinbetween our brut kills
00:00.56CIA-903mitchell * r67956 10CooldownToGo/CooldownToGo.lua: CooldownToGo: register a long slashcmd, too
00:00.57Aythso tonight should be amazing
00:01.00mykxlol lucky
00:01.09Aythnot really lucky when we went 8 months with 0 sets
00:01.13sicado you use elixier of demonslaying on brut?
00:01.17NeoTronback in the golden days (SSC) we often ran with 5 locks
00:01.21NeoTronbecause we outdpsed everyone
00:01.25Aythour melee used demonslaying
00:01.29NeoTronit still seems to be like that for the most part
00:01.51NeoTronwe have no enhance shammy now either
00:02.28mykxtry and pick one up. from what I have read your melee is a huge part of brut as they pretty much stand still and dps him
00:02.33sicaNeoTron: yeah, magtheridon was so easy with 5 locks :) - but they all stopped playing wow over the time, only one is left, we recruited some new, but they had crappy gear, mostly tailoring and t4 :((
00:02.34NeoTronuse double feral tanks eh?
00:02.44AythYup
00:02.47sag_ich_nichtomfg
00:02.52NeoTronI wish
00:02.53sag_ich_nichtthey nerfed arcanite dragonling
00:02.58sag_ich_nichtAGAIN
00:03.04NeoTronour second feral tank is new recruit and very undergeared for this level of conten
00:03.14AythI don't even think they were needed
00:03.14sag_ich_nichtfirst they nerfed him from 75 to 72
00:03.17sag_ich_nichtthat was okay
00:03.18quiescensthey weren't intended to be level 70 combat pets, they were intended to be level 40
00:03.21quiescenslols
00:03.24AythTbh the ferals seemed to take more damage durring the stomp
00:03.24sag_ich_nichtBUT NOW THEY NERFED HIM DOWN TO 60
00:03.26quiescensglancing, glancing, glancing
00:04.29sicahum, we have only one feral druid, and we usually let her do damage whereever it's possible
00:05.00NeoTronI wonder if anyone has a clue what kind of increase you get from using transient consumables
00:05.03NeoTronand such
00:05.16NeoTronand the group debuffing classes such a ret pally and ms warrior
00:05.41CIA-903funkydude * r67957 10StatBlocks_MeleeStats/ (. StatBlocks_MeleeStats.lua): StatBlocks_MeleeStats: optimization, api & name updates
00:05.45PrimerAnyone know of a way to map mouse clicks > highest supported mouse # into key binds in wine?
00:06.06NeoTronquestion - reasonbly geared 4xt6 fire mage, ele shammy, SP, flask and wpn enchant => 1600-1650 DPS - does that sound right?
00:06.26NeoTronno heroism, food, destruction pots, flamecap etc
00:06.48Aythyou're saying the mage did 1600dps?
00:07.03NeoTronyes
00:07.09NeoTronfor example http://wowwebstats.com/uu6rf6p5tlzic?s=7737-7906
00:07.17WobWorkit involved about 15kg of personal explosives
00:07.31AythProbably a little low if his gear is good
00:07.38Aythespecially with a ele shammy spriest
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00:08.17NeoTronone mage has the haste staff, other one has the skull. not sure what else they have overall
00:08.24WobWor1grr
00:08.32Aytheh, they're probably fine if they're not looking at best in slot
00:08.47NeoTronnot the issue
00:08.49CIA-903sayclub * r67958 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua:
00:08.49CIA-9GridStatusRaidDebuff :
00:08.49CIA-9- Fixed
00:08.56Aythour mage pulled almost 1900... but obviously they speed up post 20%, and he's in close to optimal gear.
00:08.56NeoTronjust curious if it's 'ok" and likely sufficient when fully buffed
00:09.02AythYa
00:09.05AythSeems right
00:09.09NeoTronok
00:09.14Aythespecially if you didn't get post 20%
00:09.21NeoTronnah best was like 60% or so
00:09.24NeoTronand no heroisms
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00:09.40NeoTronother question - who should get hero? melee/mages > locks for example?
00:09.47NeoTronor hunters
00:10.09NeoTronassume SP's are pretty pointless for heroism
00:10.50Cyndarknight is a lock mekee style
00:11.00Cynokay im gogin home
00:12.24Aythmelee, hunters, all good for hero
00:12.26Aythmages post 20
00:12.42Aythspriest is weak... but they do gain from it... but they're low dps to begin with so meh
00:13.26AythI think we tried to feed them to the melee group though... starting with the first one at 60%
00:13.33Ayth(so it's not a quick wipe and wasted heh)
00:13.37NeoTronyeah
00:13.49NeoTronI think we'll skip it for the locks
00:13.57Aythour locks had threat issues as it was
00:14.01NeoTronwe can benefit from it but we already pulled aggro without on several occasions
00:14.32NeoTronmy 42k dmg in 10 seconds didn't help that
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00:14.44Ayth'lucky' crit =p
00:14.59NeoTron3 crits, 1 hit, 1 13k CoD
00:15.10Aythanytime a warlock pulls agro I usually get a whisper asking what their crit % was
00:15.12NeoTroncombined with the overall crit rate of 49.5%
00:15.48NeoTronI think we'll be ok on DPS if we get the right ppl in
00:15.53CIA-903elsia * r67959 10Recount/LazySync.lua:
00:15.53CIA-9Recount:
00:15.53CIA-9- Fix for second nil version error.
00:16.26NeoTronAyth: Affliction warlock, aye or nay?
00:16.30AythWe had to
00:16.33Aythto stop tank deaths
00:16.34NeoTrontank survival
00:16.48AythWe tried without and kept having the tank die around 50% -_-
00:16.48NeoTronthat's my thinking to
00:16.53NeoTronwe had two on kalecgos in fact
00:17.18Aython brut I would say only 1 spriest and only 1 afflic lock though
00:17.28NeoTronspriest for healers ?
00:17.36Aythsadly... seems tonight there's 2 spriests on (me being one) so it'll be interesting to see if I sit -_-
00:17.54AythI was mana battering the MT healers
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00:18.04Aythwho were full ranking durring stomp
00:18.08NeoTronyeah
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00:18.19NeoTronthis fight is diffucult as a raid leader
00:18.29NeoTronI've never had to try to optimize dps to this degree
00:18.32NeoTronand survivability etc
00:18.52NeoTronmy guild has been, in the past, "months behind"
00:19.02NeoTronwe killed illidan days before christmas
00:19.14NeoTronso it's fun and challenging to be where we are
00:19.42AythBrut is tuned for very very optimized.  We've had illidan down for almost 9 months and still killed brut a few seconds after enrage
00:19.48Aythof course, we had no glaive sets either at the time
00:20.28NeoTron<PROTECTED>
00:20.35NeoTronwe're NOT optimally geared
00:20.43NeoTronone skull, one staff for example is FTL
00:20.48AythYa... I dunno how you do it if you're not close to optimal tbh
00:21.07AythWell
00:21.08AythI dunno
00:21.12AythIt's fun though ^^
00:21.19NeoTronoutside the box ! 5 locks
00:21.20NeoTron:)
00:21.26NeoTronall locks do more than their share
00:21.33NeoTronexcept the poor aff lock slave
00:22.06quiescens15 locks, some healers and a couple tanks
00:22.36AythWait until you get to Felmyst... now THAT's fun ;)
00:23.04NeoTronis felmyst as challenging on the group?
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00:23.12NeoTronor more of an execution fight?
00:23.18Aythexecution
00:23.22Aythreflexes really... for everyone
00:23.30NeoTronomg we'll fail!
00:23.35Aythconstantly awareness from the entire raid as to what's happening
00:23.45Aythand you better have 3-4 priests
00:23.52pastamancerWobWork: ping
00:23.53NeoTronwe have 4 healing priests, 2 shadow
00:23.54NeoTronwe're good
00:23.58Aythheh
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00:24.36Aythbut ya... felmyst will frusterate you on a whole different level then brut
00:24.37Pheredhelhmm,  sad that healpriest isn't a viable raidspec (though raiding as one)
00:24.54Aythhuh
00:24.56NeoTronPheredhel: huh?
00:25.21NeoTronare you still living back in the days when paladins were the only healers needed?
00:25.49Pheredhelno, but today most raids stack shamans and palas ...
00:26.08AythCoH is godly T6 +
00:26.10Aythand needed
00:26.15NeoTronwe killed kalecgos with 2 pallies, 1 druid, 1 shaman and 4 priess (3 CoH, 1 DS)
00:26.21PheredhelI'm the only holy on our raid ...
00:26.26WobWorkpastamancer: pong
00:26.27AythAre you T6+?
00:26.28NeoTronwhat level raids?
00:26.43AythT4-5 encounters dont really need CoH
00:26.59pastamancerWobWork: internets problems?
00:27.05pastamancerWobWork: you've been bouncing in and out all day
00:27.08WobWorkI honestly have no idea why
00:27.09Pheredhelno , t 4-5
00:27.16WobWorkwork interwebs seems utterly utterly flaky
00:27.23pastamancerdoh
00:27.23WobWorkand noone seems to be saying anything =P
00:27.35NeoTronPheredhel: that'd be why then
00:27.37SchmoZz_CoH is so hax on bloodboil its ridiculous
00:27.44NeoTronbut even so holy priests hardly are BAD prior to t6
00:27.45Pheredhelif everything goes well, well try bt next week ... but i guess that won't go well...
00:27.46QuantumDeltaCoH is useful in TK :<
00:27.49WobWorkof course, me piping up with: "Hey, my IRC keeps going up and down..." probably woudln';t go down that well
00:27.51NeoTronwe were always priest heavy
00:27.54pastamancerhehe
00:28.04QuantumDeltaThough yes, you don't really /need/ it until T6 stuffs
00:28.06NeoTronPheredhel: did you do Hyjal yet?
00:28.14Pheredhelno
00:28.24NeoTronWinterchill is the new Void Reaver
00:28.31Pheredhelright now, the raid didn't even town kael'thas
00:28.36NeoTronNaj'entus is  afight where you'll find the power of CoH to be.. err. nice
00:28.36QuantumDeltaVR is actually hard now
00:28.38QuantumDeltaor well
00:28.42QuantumDelta"ok" :P
00:28.53NeoTronreasonbly balanced for the instance vs loleasy?
00:28.56Yssarilanyone know the path to the checkmark texture?
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00:29.02WobWorkwinterchill kept killing us with icetomb
00:29.03Pheredheland al'ar ... not really mastered ;)
00:29.05QuantumDeltawouldn't really call him reasonably balanced
00:29.11QuantumDeltaVR > Kael now imo
00:29.12QuantumDeltaxD
00:29.14NeoTronWobWork: pvp trinket and focused healing
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00:29.27NeoTroncan't be that hard to avoid balls without targeting
00:29.27WobWorkNeoTron: yeah, well it was our first try =)
00:29.30NeoTronjust need to pay attention
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00:29.38sag_ich_nicht[02:28] <+WobWork> winterchill kept killing us with icetomb <--LOL
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00:29.43Pheredhelbut happy if they started to fix holypriest...
00:29.45NeoTronWobWork: we killed him on our second try with 22 people
00:29.47WobWorkWe got him to 30%!
00:29.52sag_ich_nichtroflmao
00:29.53QuantumDeltano boss mods at all NeoTron compared to full alerts and predictability on kael ;P
00:29.59WobWorkwhich was pretty good I think for a scrub MH
00:29.59Pheredhelat least the spririt/int buff was really great ;)
00:30.01sag_ich_nichtwe killed him with 20 man on our first try
00:30.06QuantumDeltapeople actually have to look at the boss = random retards will always fail it xD
00:30.13WobWorksag_ich_nicht: You're probably way overgeared =P
00:30.15NeoTronunderstood
00:30.18sag_ich_nicht12[Medallion of the Alliance]
00:30.21WobWorkcompared to us
00:30.27sag_ich_nichtftw
00:30.31NeoTronWobWork: we had killed vashj a few times, kael'thas once
00:30.37NeoTronwe were not overgeared at the time
00:30.46WobWorknah, talking to sag
00:30.49NeoTronsag_ich_nicht: I tried to click the link. nothing happened
00:30.58CIA-903funkydude * r67960 10StatBlocks_FPS/StatBlocks_FPS.lua: StatBlocks_FPS: Update to new api
00:31.09NeoTronWobWork:  "on our first try" would indicate something similar to us
00:31.10sag_ich_nichtWobWork: we killed vashj twice and kaelthas trice before moving to Hyjal
00:31.24sag_ich_nichtand that 20 man kill was on the evening we downed vashj the first time
00:31.32sag_ich_nicht(yes we downed kael before vashj so what :P)
00:31.37NeoTronI've seen quite a few 3/4 TK, 5/6 SSC, 1/6 Hyjal guilds :P
00:32.05NeoTronPheredhel: imagine a fight where everyone regularily take 8500 damage
00:32.14NeoTronnow imagine paladins healing that
00:32.15WobWorkWell, I've not even killed Lurker =P
00:32.24NeoTronthen laugh a bit and bring in the priests
00:32.24PheredhelNeoTron now imagen chainheal
00:32.25WobWorkAnd I was top of the rogues in that run O.O
00:32.42WobWork(which is, quite frankly, scary)
00:32.45FroMasterAnyone know what the variable is in a macro to print out the /target?
00:32.45PheredhelTactic: bind chainheal to every key , roll face on keyboard
00:32.47NeoTronPoh/CoH is better than chain heal in that circumstance
00:32.51WobWorkmy first run with that raid
00:33.05WobWorkand all I had mainhanded was dragonmaw
00:33.18steevwhat addons provies classhandler-1.0?
00:33.20NeoTrongear ~= skill
00:33.21WobWorkI -did- manage to nab a nice trash epic =)
00:33.28steevi just updated and its spitting out that its missing and i can't seem to find it
00:33.31WobWorkNeoTron: yeah, apparantly ><
00:33.44the-golemCairenn: i like the "new" WoWI look :-), how long has it been that way?
00:33.56the-golem(anyone can answer that, really)
00:34.04WobWorkweek or so?
00:34.08dylanmsteev: Are you sure it isn't CallbackHandler?
00:34.12WobWorkare we talking about the background?
00:34.16WobWorkor the whole layout
00:34.19steevdylanm: that might be it
00:34.24steevsounds more like it
00:34.38dylanmSounds like someone messed up their externals.
00:34.38Arrowmastersteev: disable CooldownCount
00:34.44Arrowmasterhshh is a fucking moron
00:34.55dylanmYou could get Ace3 standalone and that would provide it.
00:34.56the-golemthe new layout, as opposed to the community-portal old look (like EQ2I looks)
00:35.06dylanmArrowmaster: Hah, what happened?
00:35.23Cairennthe-golem: 02/01/08 http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14660
00:35.42Arrowmasterthe fucking moron upgraded CooldownCount to use LSM-3.0 but didnt do the embeds properly at all
00:35.45the-golemah
00:35.50the-golemDolby is the man
00:35.54FroMasterIn Pitbull is there a DogTag/Icon to show Raid Assists? Currently it only shows the Leader and Master Looter
00:36.14WobWorkcarefully inspects Cairenn. Well, I'd hope so!
00:36.40dylanmDid he just replace -2.0 with -3.0 everywhere and pray for the best?
00:36.46Arrowmasterno its worse
00:36.47dylanmAwesome.
00:38.12the-golemCairenn: that siggy is awesome btw :-)
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00:38.21Cairennthanks :)
00:38.27CIA-903slake333 * r67961 10Expiration/ (Expiration.lua Expiration.toc changelog.txt):
00:38.27CIA-9Expiration: 2.0.0
00:38.27CIA-9- Updated to work with patch 2.4
00:38.27CIA-9- Filter options removed
00:38.28CIA-9- Threshold option added
00:38.28CIA-9- Pets are now tracked
00:38.29xyuwasa
00:38.30CIA-9- Greatly improved event filtering logic
00:39.21xyuAnyones increasing rate on memory shoot up to like 400 while running back in ghost form to the instance?  
00:39.24xyucuz mine is.  
00:39.28xyuonce i enter the instance i'm fine.
00:40.58Yssarilxyu, which addon is doing it?
00:41.13xyuhm i didn't check i think recount i'll check next wipe
00:41.16hypetechzomg expiration fixed
00:41.42quiescenswhat's expiration
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00:42.34Hobbyhmm, not seeing my own bar inside omen, everyone else can see me, i can see everyone else
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00:42.51Hobbyanyone else seeing this? don't see options that would affect it, all on the latest omen
00:43.09RecluseHobby: the opposite of me - all i ever see is my own bar, but everyone else can see me fine
00:43.12the-golemwhat happened to the OGaming affiliation?
00:45.36the-golemsorry, i've been in a cave
00:47.06CIA-903funkydude * r67962 10StatBlocks_Clock/StatBlocks_Clock.lua: StatBlocks_Clock: use new api
00:47.09CIA-903arrowmaster * r67963 10CooldownCount/ (CooldownCount.lua CooldownCount.toc libs/):
00:47.09CIA-9CooldownCount:
00:47.09CIA-9-revert commit 67828 by hshh that tried and miserablely failed at switching to LibSharedMedia-3.0
00:47.09CIA-9-if you can't even remotely do it right don't attempt it at all
00:47.14Arrowmasterfucking moron
00:47.23JJSheetslol
00:47.24the-golemlol arrow :-)
00:47.35Ellipsishands Arrowmaster a double dose of chill pills
00:47.46Arrowmastergo look at the changelog on fish
00:48.13Arrowmasterand i dont even give a fuck that hes listed as the addons author in the toc
00:48.36Yssarilrofl
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00:50.49ChaudWhy doesn't armory work right in FF3 Beta 5 =\
00:50.59Ellipsislua pattern matching makes me cry
00:51.08Arrowmasterbecause blizz is stupid and does a useragent check for 'FireFox/2'
00:52.21Ellipsisanyone wanna write me a function to parse r, g, b out of a color string
00:52.37Arrowmasterhex string?
00:53.15ChaudI figured out how to make hello world in lolcode =(
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00:54.15JJSheetslolcode?
00:54.32Funkeh`gently pats JJSheets
00:54.51JJSheetsrefuses to pant like a puppy dog.
00:54.54Yssarilhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE
00:55.19ArrowmasterFunkeh`: ping
00:55.24Funkeh`yo
00:55.40Arrowmasteryour considered an 'admin' or 'mod' right?
00:55.43WobWor1just bought nintendogs
00:55.46the-golemChaud: i havent had a problem :-/
00:55.54Funkeh`Arrowmaster, yeah...
00:56.01Funkeh`has a funny feling
00:56.09Funkeh`feeling
00:56.10Funkeh`><
00:56.20Arrowmasterdo you have any problems with me svn del'ing the useless LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0
00:56.24WobWor1"You're"
00:56.41Funkeh`WobWor1, you can talk when you fix your connection
00:56.46Funkeh`now shh
00:56.51WobWor1pft, connection isn't my fault
00:57.01Funkeh`Arrowmaster, definately useless?
00:57.02WobWor1proper grammar however, is controllable =)
00:57.10Arrowmasterill put something in the commit message telling the AtlasLoot author to use GetSpellInfo()
00:57.16the-golemlolcode makes me rofl >.<
00:57.29WobWor1the-golem: I'd hate to debug it though
00:57.32Arrowmasterhes only using LibStub("LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0"):GetLookupTable()
00:57.34the-golemindeed
00:57.40Arrowmasterand its definately useless
00:57.40JJSheetslolcode is the funneh.  kthxbye.
00:57.55Funkeh`Arrowmaster, tag it before deleting it
00:58.00dylanmEllipsis: Pretty much split the string up and do tonumber(x, 16)?
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00:58.19sag_ich_nichtELLIPSIS
00:58.23EllipsisINTERNET
00:58.23sag_ich_nichtIT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
00:58.25sag_ich_nichtNO CRASH YET
00:58.27sag_ich_nichtBUG BUGSACK HANGS
00:58.29ArrowmasterFunkeh`: fuck, grr all my svn move/copy's always fail and i dont know why
00:58.35sag_ich_nichtGIMME THE COMMAND TO EXTRACT IT MANUALLY TO CHATFRAME1
00:58.38sag_ich_nichtQUICK
00:58.40Arrowmastersec maybe i can do it from my nix box
00:58.42Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: alt-f4
00:58.44sag_ich_nichtGIEF FUNCTIONCALL BEFORE IT CRASHES
00:58.45sag_ich_nichtno
00:58.49sag_ich_nichtit'll crash
00:58.52sag_ich_nichtit did last time
00:58.53Ellipsisif SVs get saved, it will be in your buggrabber.lua
00:58.54sag_ich_nichtquick
00:58.56JJSheetslol Ellipsis
00:58.57sag_ich_nichti know
00:59.01sag_ich_nichtbut it'll crash if i close
00:59.13WobWor1World in crisis!!
00:59.29Chaudbut lolcode is so logical =\
00:59.29sag_ich_nichtgod
00:59.32sag_ich_nichti'll try it
00:59.34sag_ich_nichtit'll crash
00:59.34ChaudIM IN YR LOOP UPPIN YR VAR TIL BOTHSAEM VAR AN 10
00:59.34WobWor1It's like that first episode of MMovie
00:59.35sag_ich_nichtbut fine
00:59.49sag_ich_nichtaaaaaaaaaand it crashed
00:59.51sag_ich_nichti told you ellipsis
00:59.51ChaudI make posts like that when I am trolling
01:00.04sag_ich_nichtnow i blame you because i couldn't save the bugsack
01:00.05sag_ich_nichtgood job
01:00.06sag_ich_nichtD:
01:00.14Ellipsis...
01:00.19Ellipsisyou could have just done /buggrabber <num>
01:00.21Funkeh`Ellipsis, clearly your fault
01:00.27Yssarilsag_ich_nicht, just reproduce it :P
01:00.29sag_ich_nichtEllipsis you tell me that now
01:00.29QuantumDeltahahaha
01:00.29sag_ich_nichtD:
01:00.32sag_ich_nichtYssaril i can't
01:00.35Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: l2use your own damn addons
01:00.36sag_ich_nichtit happens randomly
01:01.05Yssarilbugs are never random :P they happen when the author screwed up :P
01:01.20sag_ich_nichtYssaril
01:01.22sag_ich_nichtshut the fuck up
01:01.32Yssarilbah
01:01.35sag_ich_nichtYssaril go read about race conditions
01:01.39sag_ich_nichtthose _are_ random, in a way
01:01.55Yssarilagain auther screwed up :P
01:02.19sag_ich_nichtyeah but not that easy to find :P
01:02.30Yssariltrue
01:04.13CIA-903arrowmaster * r67964 10/tags/LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0/: LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0: tagging
01:04.43CIA-903funkydude * r67965 10StatBlocks_Clock/StatBlocks_Clock.lua: StatBlocks_Clock: gui tweak
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01:08.46AckisI just made a post about cleaning up Babble Libraries... I hope it won't start flames/drama, but if anyone wants to take a look and comment link is: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12536.0
01:09.21Antiarc~67% of my damage
01:09.27AntiarcDammit purl.
01:09.57durcyn~68% of my damage
01:09.58purl68% of my damage is probably white damage, and autoattack speed boosts mean more CP procs mean more yellow damage.
01:09.59Aiianeit was 68 percent
01:10.00Aiiane:P
01:10.02durcyn;)
01:10.02AntiarcOh, that's what it was.
01:10.04Ellipsislol
01:10.18CIA-903arrowmaster * r67966 10LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0/: LibBabble-TradeSkill-3.0: this lib should have never been created, use GetSpellInfo(spellid) instead
01:10.42CIA-903funkydude * r67967 10StatBlocks_Latency/StatBlocks_Latency.lua: StatBlocks_Latency: Update to new api
01:11.01CIA-903yleaf * r67968 10RicoMiniMap/RicoMiniMap.lua:
01:11.01CIA-9RicoMiniMap:
01:11.01CIA-9-please save as uft-8
01:11.02Primerhrmm, how can I make a macro to have my fel hunter devour magic on a friendly player if I have him mousedover, or me if I don't?
01:11.03AckisArrowmaster: http://www.daviesh.net/atlasloot_enhanced/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1801
01:12.07ChaudI'll babble you.
01:12.13Ackislol chaud :P
01:12.16Primer/cast [pet:Felhunter,target=player] Devour Magic
01:12.20Primeris what I have currently
01:12.25ArrowmasterAckis: good i didnt really care enough to register an account to post
01:12.33durcynPrimer: [target=mouseover,help]
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01:12.49WobWor1Primer: something like [target=mouseover] cast Devour Magic
01:12.59Primerexcept I need the pet part
01:13.07WobWor1er /cast [] Devour Magic
01:13.07Primercan you give me a verbatim, working, macro?
01:13.13Ackischaud: i transfered my huntard off last night
01:13.21JJSheets<PROTECTED>
01:13.23WobWor1Primer: /cast works fine for petspells
01:13.31Primerahhh
01:13.34Primerok, cool
01:13.48JJSheetsWobin, he wants to make sure it doesn't fire when the felhunter is gone.
01:14.00JJSheetswait, Primer...
01:14.08JJSheetsswitch the order of the [] sections.
01:14.20JJSheetsotherwise it'll always cast on you.
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01:14.48NeoTronmaybe remove the help.. so you can use it for enemies too :)
01:14.51WobWorkIt won't make a difference, though, no?
01:14.56WobWorkIf the felhunter is not there, it simply won't cast anything
01:15.04JJSheetsIt'll bitch about it.
01:15.17Chaudplz noes ackis
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01:15.40NivFreakis there a decent visual mod to assist healers in thier syncing?
01:15.50NivFreakif that made any sense after a long ass day
01:16.07Chaudyour realm is 30th =\
01:16.17Chaudgurubashi is like 60th
01:16.22NeoTronNivFreak: so is that a longass day or a  long  assday?
01:16.27ChaudWe need all the help we can get
01:16.52NivFreakNeoTron: both
01:17.02NivFreakNeoTron: btw, MM was very solid last night
01:17.16NivFreakit had in fact lost all of my CC settings from the last time I had used in SSC (your first version?)
01:17.23AckisI needed a farmer on my server, plus i wanted my gold transferd over (had 28k when moved ackis over, can only take 10k on a transfer)
01:17.28NivFreakso once I turned it back on and set priorities, it was great
01:17.42WobWor1IRC needs something like a wiki redirect
01:17.58WobWor1so we can setup endless redirect loops
01:18.02NeoTrontheer's been one incompatible chang eI couldn't upgrade for
01:18.05ChaudI need your gold ackis =(
01:18.09ChaudI only have like 11k
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01:18.19NeoTronand that's when I changed to global CC priority list and per-mob cc vulnerabilities
01:18.21NivFreakNeoTron: I started with that version from before you commited it to SVN iirc
01:18.25NivFreakyea
01:18.25Ackispfft
01:18.31NivFreakanyway
01:18.33NivFreakworking great now
01:18.35NeoTroncool
01:18.37NivFreakvery happy with it
01:18.46NivFreakthe raid mark spammer was working
01:18.46NeoTrongot a few things to improve once raiding is done for the week
01:18.51NivFreaknow I just want to be uber lazy
01:18.54NivFreakand assign a tank to each mark
01:18.55ChaudIDK where you got so much gold from, but clearly time to share
01:18.57NivFreakand a mage to each sheep mark
01:18.58NivFreaketc
01:19.08NivFreakthen I can RL while watching south park
01:20.29CIA-903antiarc * r67969 10Deadened/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Deadened: 2.4 update. Now Ace3. Supports arbitrary spell suppression list. Woo.
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01:21.15ArrowmasterAntiarc: does it still announce on every inturupt?
01:21.21AntiarcAyup
01:21.24Antiarc(Optionally)
01:21.25Arrowmasterarg
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01:21.30Arrowmasterdisabled by default?
01:21.33AntiarcThat's off by default
01:21.34AntiarcYes
01:21.56Arrowmasterbut announcing on spirit shock/deadened is on?
01:22.08AntiarcNo, the annouce is generic
01:22.18AntiarcI tend to use it as a generic interrupt announce mod :P
01:22.27Zhinjiooh ffs.
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01:22.42Zhinjioso chat window position settings are not per character.
01:23.10durcynno, they're kept in layout-cache.txt which is per character.
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01:24.53quiescensstaples wobwork to the channel.
01:25.16WobWor1hopefully that will fix things
01:25.22WobWor1staticips himself
01:25.59Ackisantiarc: have you had any bug reports with the omen window being distorted/messed up?
01:26.10CIA-903funkydude * r67970 10StatBlocks_Memory/StatBlocks_Memory.lua: StatBlocks_Memory: Update to new api
01:26.19AntiarcAckis: On inital login, yes
01:26.49Zhinjiodurcyn: wait, it is per character, or it isn't?
01:27.07durcynZhinjio: It is per character.
01:27.20Zhinjiohrm.
01:27.27durcynWTF/Account/<account>/<server>/<character>/chat-cache.txt and layout-cache.txt
01:27.34Zhinjiofor some reason, its not seeming to work that way for me.
01:27.43CIA-903funkydude * r67971 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): .trunk: StatBlocks: bugfix
01:27.57quiescensdo you have some addon that's repositioning them
01:28.12NeoTronAntiarc: I have random reports of Omen failures that aern't exactly reproducable. we just see occurances of "unknown" entries and such
01:28.17Zhinjiothats possible.
01:28.22Zhinjiominichat and ... uh .. chatmod
01:28.27ChaudOmen ate my homework =(
01:29.05WobWor1Chaud: The big three headed dog?
01:29.07Ackislol
01:29.13WobWor1It's not lunar festival, you can't use that excuse
01:29.31ChaudIt went, NOM NOM NOM and d/ced the raid too!
01:30.42Ackisi'm getting distorted omen windows on some toons and not others, even after re-installing and deleting all the omen.lua's, kinda funny
01:31.24Zhinjioaha, my minichat profile is "Default" ... which is probably be inherited by everyone.
01:32.28JJSheetsis away: STOP! Dinner Time!
01:33.20NivFreakthat scares me
01:33.52ChaudI love the omen QQ across the interwebs
01:33.54Chaud"The idea that a threat meter won't work with the same software released 15 minutes earlier is nuts.There's no need to change things that often. Once a day is more than enough."
01:33.57ZhinjioI was thinking that, but didn't want to say anything
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01:34.17NivFreakChaud: I love the fact that people are angry
01:34.18Silverstormwoot, one shot Illidan on the second kill
01:34.32NivFreakI had to actually defend antiarc last night within my guild
01:34.39Antiarc*shrug* people are free to write their own
01:34.43AntiarcI'll keep knocking the bugs out of mine
01:34.44NivFreakof course all from people who don't understand software development
01:34.59NivFreakAntiarc: I think you're doing a fine job
01:35.00ChaudIt makes me lol
01:35.05hypetechis there any way to make ora2's ready check only check groups 1-5?
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01:35.22NeoTronit's not ora2's ready check, it's blizzards
01:35.22NivFreakAntiarc: it's just funny to see people act as if you could time a patch like 2.4 to happen once all the bugs had been worked out
01:35.26ChaudYou can forgive a certain amount of incompatibility. Combat logs and data has been altered, as it always is by the patch. But I've NEVER seen two versions of Omen downloaded on the same day be incompatible with each other. That's absurd."
01:35.30NeoTronand ora3 does have some separation of the two
01:35.36Chaudhe keeps going
01:35.39Chaudfor the entire topic
01:35.50AntiarcIs this somewhere I can respond?
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01:36.10Chaudsomeone responded for you I guess? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20278706-Going-back-to-KLH
01:36.16Chaud"Sorry, threat is silly at the moment. Two of the devs are in my guild."
01:36.26ChaudMaybe one of you yez?
01:36.57SilverstormChaud...you should point out that the day it is updated to not be compatible, that will happen no matter what
01:37.10sag_ich_nichtvhaarr
01:37.15sag_ich_nichtyou there?
01:37.16sag_ich_nichthalp
01:37.31ChaudI don't like the guy anyway
01:37.43AntiarcI have no idea who "Mike" is.
01:38.08AntiarcAnd uh, I'm the only Omen dev, barring other people making periodic fixes (<3 nevcariel)
01:38.13sag_ich_nichtAntiarc you using bugsack?
01:38.15sag_ich_nichtquick
01:38.19Chaudhe is a mage with amazing gear
01:38.20Antiarcyes
01:38.25sag_ich_nichtgimme the /script to print all errors in the sack to chatframe1
01:38.33sag_ich_nichtbefore my WoW out of memory's again
01:38.48sag_ich_nichti'm already reading the lua
01:38.52sag_ich_nichtbut can't find it yet
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01:38.56Antiarc<PROTECTED>
01:38.58xyuis anyone's "ressers' category in recount , not working?
01:39.12sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: that doesn't print to chatframe
01:39.13sag_ich_nichtholdon
01:39.21Ellipsissag_ich_nicht, do /buggrabber to find out how many there are and then /buggrabber <num>
01:39.42ChaudMike is, Deboette, in Might, alliance gnome mage
01:39.51AntiarcNeh. That guy can rant and rave if he wants to.
01:40.09sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: /buggrabber doesn't work
01:40.10sag_ich_nichtholdon
01:40.13AntiarcI'm one guy working on a hobby project in my spare time. If you don't like the bugs, pay my salary and hire a QA team.
01:40.18Ellipsishow are you running bugsack without buggrabber
01:40.19sag_ich_nichtokay
01:40.21sag_ich_nichtWoW just crashed
01:40.23sag_ich_nichtno
01:40.24sag_ich_nichtlook
01:40.25QuantumDeltatt I seem to have broken my wau haha
01:40.27ChaudIt is funny to read the posts
01:40.29sag_ich_nichtthe slashcommand doesn't work
01:40.30sag_ich_nichtLOOK HOLDON
01:40.35Ellipsis...
01:40.37Chaudthey get even better on official forums
01:41.01QuantumDeltaAntiarc mate, the vast majority of people understand and appreciate your work though
01:41.09KuraxArrowmaster! =D
01:41.15QuantumDeltayou have one of the most used addons in all of wow so there's bound to be some asshats using it ;P
01:41.23sag_ich_nichtcouldn't save all of it
01:41.24ArrowmasterKurax: read the commit message
01:41.27sag_ich_nichtWoW just crashed
01:41.30AntiarcI know. I'm not angry about it or anything :P
01:41.44sag_ich_nichthere is what i COULD save, the TOP is cut off so tracing it back to the source might be hard:
01:41.45sag_ich_nichthttp://pastey.net/85046
01:41.49sag_ich_nichtbut this is weird as hell
01:41.49sag_ich_nichtD:
01:41.52QuantumDeltahehe you just sound stressed :P
01:41.57ChaudThe stories about omen d/cing the entire raid
01:41.57AntiarcJust saying that he's expecting an awful lot from a hobby project, and if it's that important he can hire me to work on it fulltime :P
01:41.58Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: you still haven't explained why you're DEMANDING to know the slash command for something even after we've told it to you and you claim it doesn't work
01:41.59Chaudftw.
01:42.00AntiarcI am a little, yes.
01:42.18AntiarcI've been working on it a lot more than I should be :)
01:42.18sag_ich_nichtAntiarc told me the proper command
01:42.18sag_ich_nicht:P
01:42.19sag_ich_nichtanyway
01:42.23sag_ich_nichtit happened while inspecting
01:42.25QuantumDeltaHmm
01:42.31QuantumDeltaperhaps time to take a break :P
01:42.38QuantumDeltaburn out is bad
01:42.41AntiarcI will when this is done
01:42.53KuraxArrowmaster: Yeah, nvm, I create it just for a temp compatibility, now I have to modify AtlasLoot asap, it's already broken
01:43.00Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: if you have buggrabber, /buggrabber is the proper command to print your errors to the chatframe
01:43.43sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: as i said
01:43.44ArrowmasterKurax: or just revert to babble-2.2 for that lib for now
01:43.46sag_ich_nichti have buggrabber loaded
01:43.59ChaudGrayhoof said no to castingbars again =(
01:44.06Chaud./wrists
01:44.07sag_ich_nichtbut either BugSack unregisters /buggrabber commands OR something related to the crash broke /buggrabber but not /bugsack
01:44.11sag_ich_nichtanyway
01:44.15sag_ich_nichthttp://pastey.net/85046
01:44.17sag_ich_nichthere check it out
01:44.23Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: if /buggrabber prints the help message, you haven't gotten any errors this session
01:44.34EllipsisI checked it out.
01:44.48sag_ich_nichtit hasn't printed any helpmessage
01:44.56sag_ich_nichtWoW told me to fuck off and enter a command it can recognize.
01:45.03Ellipsisthat's what I mean by the help message
01:45.09Ellipsisthe "type /help for a list of slash commands" thing
01:45.14sag_ich_nichtya
01:45.17ArrowmasterKurax: i checked AtlasLoot and your only using it for localename = BT[englishname] which will all convert to GetSpellInfo(spellid) once you get all the spellids
01:45.17sag_ich_nichtbut i had errors in that sessions
01:45.20sag_ich_nicht*session
01:45.23Ellipsisbuggrabber doesn't register the /buggrabber command until the first error in the session
01:45.25sag_ich_nichtwhere you think that pastey came from?
01:45.32sag_ich_nichtthere was an error geez
01:45.37KuraxArrowmaster: Working on it
01:45.38sag_ich_nichtbut it got redirected to BugSack
01:45.38Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: impossible to know since you start at error 12
01:45.43sag_ich_nichti know
01:45.45Ellipsisobviously something is causing a chain reaction
01:45.51sag_ich_nichti told you i couldn't get it out
01:45.55Ellipsisnext time get error #1 and maybe we can figure it out
01:46.00sag_ich_nichtactually error 3
01:46.22Ellipsisno, halfway through 10
01:46.23ArrowmasterEllipsis: BugSack unregisters /buggrabber
01:46.24sag_ich_nichtbecause 1 and 2 are "standard" errors i always get on login :P one because i'm too lazy to update clearfont2 and one because the author of Talented_Scrub sucks
01:46.24Ellipsisbut whatever
01:46.33EllipsisArrowmaster: srsly? that's retarded
01:46.36sag_ich_nichterror 3 is whatever caused it or something
01:46.39sag_ich_nichttold you
01:46.44sag_ich_nichtfucking told you it unregisters it
01:46.48Ellipsisno you didn't
01:46.49Ellipsisyous aid it might
01:46.53EllipsisI never denied that :P
01:46.58ArrowmasterKurax: change your externals and point to tags for now
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01:47.00sag_ich_nicht[03:44] <sag_ich_nicht> but either BugSack unregisters /buggrabber commands OR something related to the crash broke /buggrabber but not /bugsack
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01:47.07sag_ich_nichtugh
01:47.08Ellipsis[6:44:50 pm] <Ellipsis> buggrabber doesn't register the /buggrabber command until the first error in the session
01:47.08sag_ich_nichtslap
01:47.13ArrowmasterKurax: so that the zip script doesnt error and not update your zips
01:47.13Ellipsiswe were both right :)
01:47.15Chaudaddons are srs biznass.
01:47.16demilichhey, question. my bigwigs hyjal wave notifications aren't showing up. any idea why?
01:47.17sag_ich_nicht~bitchslap Ellipsis
01:47.17purlACTION beats the sh*t out of Ellipsis
01:47.31Ellipsis~whaleslap sag_ich_nicht
01:47.32purlACTION beats sag_ich_nicht upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
01:47.38stavmarissue with threat 2.0 http://ace.pastey.net/85047
01:47.39sag_ich_nicht~whaleparry Ellipsis
01:47.40purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Ellipsis's attacks.
01:47.42starlon_slapping match?
01:47.49sag_ich_nichtdemilich: yeah, have someone with bigwigs talk to the NPC
01:47.55Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: the fact remains that we can't do anything about your error til you catch the one that's causing the mess :P
01:48.05Funkeh`demilich, hover over thrall or jaina with your mouse to enable it
01:48.12sag_ich_nichtNO SHIT, too bad chatframe1 only has limited space
01:48.21sag_ich_nichtand i can't output it anywhere else BECAUSE ANYTHING ELSE IS BROKEN
01:48.33Ellipsisso either do it earlier -or- disable bugsack and use /buggrabber 3 when it happens
01:48.39JoshBorkeUI_ERRORS_FRAME:ADdMessage :-P
01:49.13sag_ich_nichti could have just gotten it with /Bugsack
01:49.19Ellipsisthen do that
01:49.20sag_ich_nichtif i had used /bugsack list 3
01:49.25demilichthanks its working now
01:49.44sag_ich_nichti didn't know it would fill all of chatframe1
01:49.59sag_ich_nichtand once i had "entered" the frame to copy from it i couldn't leave it anymore
01:50.15ArrowmasterFunkeh`: is there a reason Hyjal Summit doesnt disable when you kill the 4th boss?
01:50.21Ellipsiswell now you know how to get the error next time you have that problem
01:50.25Ellipsisso shut up and do it :P
01:50.44Funkeh`Arrowmaster, yes, it disabes when you kill the 5th
01:50.50Funkeh`no I can't remember the reason
01:51.10ArrowmasterFunkeh`: 5th?
01:51.22Arrowmasterbut its useless after the 4th
01:51.25SilverstormFunkeh': thanks for the updates to the blocks.  I was getting to optimizing today, just wanted to make sure thing were working
01:51.34Funkeh`Arrowmaster, and?
01:51.38Funkeh`oh I remember now
01:51.43Funkeh`thrall is still clickable
01:51.47Funkeh`so it would reenable
01:51.51ChaudYou think these castbars will work for proximo that some guy wrote with the newest proximo? The one he included is old =\
01:51.58Arrowmasteroh and ffs make Doomwalker disable on zoning into an instance, and only enable if your not in an instance
01:52.16sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: still haven reproduced again
01:52.16Funkeh`huh?
01:52.20sag_ich_nicht*haven#t
01:52.22sag_ich_nicht**haven't
01:52.25Funkeh`Silverstorm, np
01:52.31Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: that registers about a 0.3 on my care-o-meter :P
01:52.36JJSheetslol
01:52.47Silverstormso fmt instead of all that concatenating should be normal?
01:53.00Funkeh`in this case
01:53.15ArrowmasterFunkeh`: doomwalker mod is annoying when enabled other places, its not needed if your in an instance
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01:54.00Funkeh`I'm not going o add extra code to disable it just ebcause you're in another place
01:54.21SilverstormFunkeh': that just due to speed?  why wouldn't you want to use fmt all the time?
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01:54.49Funkeh`Silverstorm, concatenating strings together is faster than numbers with strings
01:55.08Silverstormgotcha
01:55.11JoshBorkeSilverstorm: fmt > concat
01:57.34Funkeh`Silverstorm, I added in print for you
01:57.57Silverstormsaw that, thanks.  makes more sense there, I think.  one copy >>> 42 copies
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01:58.15QuantumDeltabtw.... anyone know how stable pitbull is atm?
01:58.34Zhinjioworking great for me, QuantumDelta
01:58.43QuantumDeltaI'm completely rebuilding my UI from scratch tonight and would rather use pitbull then any other unitframe if it's actually not gonna WTFPWN my frame rate
01:58.46QuantumDeltaniceness <3
01:58.54QuantumDeltabest unit frames for raid leaders >_<
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01:59.06Nicarrasag_unitframes is workin well for me
01:59.13Ellipsiswhy wouldn't pitbull be stable? o.O
01:59.25QuantumDeltawell a few months back it was giving me serious fps issues
01:59.32Ellipsisprobably the aura module
01:59.35QuantumDeltaI think ckk fixed it /ages/ ago but I haven't had time to sort my UI until now :P
01:59.35Ellipsiswhich was completely rewritten to not suck
01:59.47Ellipsisso yeah, it shouldn't cause problems now...let us know if it does
01:59.59QuantumDeltanps <3
02:00.14TainI dunno, ckk's stuff is generally about as stable as my ex-girlfriends sometimes.
02:00.25QuantumDeltalol
02:00.48QuantumDeltanaw his stuffs generally pretty good from what i've seen over the last year at least
02:01.09Ellipsisit's always been stable for me, and if I have a problem it's usually to track down the cause and fix it, or get him to
02:01.16Ellipsisusually easy*
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02:05.41CIA-903antiarc * r67972 10BetterBlizzOptions/ (4 files): BetterBlizzOptions: Initial commit. Makes the Blizzard interface options dialog movable and resizable.
02:06.12Arrowmaster....
02:06.20Arrowmasterhow many addons do we have that do that now?
02:06.21ben_Yesss
02:06.25JoshBorkeAntiarc: recommend you steal code from mine
02:06.30AntiarcOh, one exists?
02:06.33AntiarcI can just delete it then
02:06.33XelopherisArrowmaster: More than enough, and one more?
02:06.37JoshBorkeInterfaceOptionsOptions
02:06.54JoshBorkedoesn't work well, as in doesn't save settings
02:07.12WobWor1why is that not in the default ui?
02:07.21JoshBorkeWobWor1: it fubars layouts
02:08.10WobWor1how?
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02:08.19Yssarilblizz should just use AceConfigDialog-3.0 :P
02:09.06JoshBorkeWobWor1: because things are aligned a certain way?
02:09.31Nandinidoes anyone know if blizzard's truetype font rasterizer creates pixmaps for all the glyphs in a font as soon as the fontinstance is created? or does it only render them the first time they're used?
02:09.46WobWor1how can making a frame movable and resizable fubar layouts?
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02:10.00JoshBorkeWobWor1: it makes them look ugly, how's that?
02:10.05lagger`wtf
02:10.08lagger`how do i get a c stack overflow
02:10.16JoshBorkeWobWor1: install InterfaceOptionsOptions and try it out :-P
02:10.21ChaudWhen did youtube add a "watch this in higher quality" option?
02:10.24JoshBorkelagger`: by double hooking
02:10.52WobWor1Chaud: about 3 weeks ago
02:11.03ChaudI am bad at internets =\
02:11.10ChaudI didn't see it in any news
02:11.32Nandinii can't believe i haven't visited youtube in the past 3 weeks, this is a good sign :)
02:11.33lagger`it says i have a c stack overflow on a line
02:11.34lagger`thats commented out
02:11.38XelopherisWobWor1: actually closer to 2 months, but it hasn't been linked for a while
02:12.21JoshBorkelagger`: doubtful, pastey your code?
02:12.23lagger`i just commented out
02:12.25lagger`my entire code
02:12.26lagger`and i get
02:12.27lagger`c stack overflow
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02:12.44WobWor1heh lagger
02:12.52lagger`hows that even possible
02:13.01JoshBorkelagger`: are you only reloading ui?
02:13.01WobWor1I remember having a npc in my mud called LAG
02:13.07lagger`yeah
02:13.23JoshBorkelagger`: occasionally if you double hook you have to log out
02:13.23WobWor1You could kill him, and loot his 'one ring'
02:13.33Chaudnoes =( AtlasLoot\TableRegister\loottables.en.lua:9: Cannot find a library instance of "LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0".
02:13.35lagger`ic
02:13.36WobWor1which would, on wearing, just queue your commands endlessly
02:13.39ChaudNow I have to put extra effort forth =(
02:15.12Yssarilwonder how long it will take for the atlaslootguys to fix it now that LibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0 got the boot
02:15.41JJSheetsis back (gone 00:43:13)
02:16.18Chaudit isnt on WAU /wrists
02:17.36YssarilChaud, what isnt?
02:17.59ChaudLibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0
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02:18.26Chaudhad to go looking for it, but now I have it and atlasloot works again =)
02:18.27Yssarilyep Arrowmaster deleted it earlier since it is a useless lib and nobody should be using it
02:18.41ChaudIDC, what if I wanted to link something tonight =(
02:18.46ArrowmasterYssaril: Kurax knows already
02:18.47CIA-903ackis * r67973 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
02:18.47CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
02:18.47CIA-9- All JC vendors added
02:19.07AckisThey're fixing it right now :)
02:19.10xyuwtf
02:19.18xyu"Gridmanabars" is currently taking up 9mbs
02:19.21xyuof memory
02:19.21YssarilChaud, lookup the links on wowhead :P
02:19.30ChaudTOO HARD
02:19.33xyuGridManaBars? o_O
02:19.44YssarilChaud, TO LAZY :P
02:19.47Chaudthe thing that adds mana bars to grid?
02:19.50xyuits just 25 little blue bars going up and down >_<  how come so much memory
02:19.52xyuyeah
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02:20.39xyuGrid itself is also taking up 7+
02:20.53Chaudgrid is a very srs addon
02:21.04WobWor1srsly
02:21.55denaliLibBabble-Tradeskill-3.0 doesn't seem to be available on files.wowace.com...
02:21.57xyufer serius
02:22.12Nicarrasgrid is more important than killing illidan
02:22.15xyui can't be having no 9mb mana bars tho yo
02:22.26Silverstormthere any mods that auto-pass on BT/Hyjal gems/hearts, or should I write one?
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02:22.33Ellipsisdenali: it was deleted because it's not necessary
02:23.13durcynSilverstorm: right-click your player frame?
02:23.13Arrowmastertripple vanq gloves......
02:23.22durcynor did that not make it into live
02:23.38Chaud"not necessary"
02:23.49ChaudMY BLUE ATLAS LOOT THOUGHT DIFFERENTLY.
02:23.56Silverstormdurcyn: it did, I don't want to skip the boe greens, though...
02:24.24denaliEllipsis: AtlasLoot still uses it.
02:24.33WobWor1~imagehosting
02:24.33purlit has been said that imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire
02:25.00durcynSilverstorm: take a look at tekAutoGreed, i'm sure it could be tweaked
02:25.12Arrowmasterdenali: use the previous revision of atlasloot then, since atlasloot didnt start using it till the latest commit
02:26.18Ellipsisif atlasloot uses it then atlasloot needs to be fixed
02:26.54Chaudatlastloot needs to pro up =(
02:27.15hypetechwhat's wrong with it?
02:27.51Yssarilhypetech, its redundant in everywich way
02:28.01sag_ich_nichtactually
02:28.09sag_ich_nichtdelete 2.2 from the SVN too while you're at it
02:28.09sag_ich_nicht:PO
02:28.11sag_ich_nicht*:P
02:28.24denaliArrowmate: So... the author just started using a library that has been recently removed because it's redundant... Am I understanding that correctly?
02:28.36Ellipsisall the 2.2s that have 3.0s should be tagged and removed from trunk
02:28.40Ellipsisthere's no reason to keep them
02:28.43durcynthe author attempted to port a deprecated babble function to 3.0
02:29.18durcynand needs to present his knuckles to have a ruler applied.. ellipsis will be the nun.
02:29.38denalidurcyn: There are some guys that actually dig that.
02:29.40EllipsisI already have the costume and everything
02:29.50sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: all off 2.2 should be deleted and all of 3.0 that isn't needed anymore should be deleted
02:29.55WobWor1Did the habit come with garters?
02:30.09JJSheetsnuns r the sexxeh
02:30.45denaliThis conversation went south pretty quickly... =-O
02:30.46JoshBorkeAntiarc: are you keeping your interface options?
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02:32.14JJSheetsWhat does the south have to do with nuns and garters?
02:33.04JoshBorkethere are nuns with garters in the south?
02:33.12Ellipsiswtf did I miss?
02:33.16JJSheetshahah
02:33.24Arrowmasterlol
02:33.49Yssarilfigure of speech conversation going south means conversationg degrading into a somewhat bad subject matter
02:34.11CIA-903siz * r67974 10JewelTips/ (. JewelTips.lua JewelTips.toc embeds.xml):
02:34.11CIA-9JewelTips:
02:34.11CIA-9- Use GetItemIcon()
02:34.11CIA-9- Use GetSpellInfo() instead of Babble-Tradeskill-2.2
02:34.11AntiarcJoshBorke: Till I have a chance to check yours out, at least
02:34.24JoshBorkeAntiarc: i'd prefer you steal code from mine and then delete mine
02:34.28JJSheetsYssaril, I know, I was being a smartass.  :p
02:34.33AntiarcHaha, okay
02:34.37JoshBorkeAntiarc: mine sorta works in that it adds teh features but doesn't re-add on relog
02:34.37AntiarcWhat bits specifically?
02:35.03YssarilJJSheets, hehe i gave you the benifit of doubt that you might not be a native english speaker :P
02:35.18CIA-903kurax * r67975 10AtlasLoot/ (11 files in 5 dirs):
02:35.18CIA-9AtlasLoot:
02:35.18CIA-9- Get rid of Babble-Tradeskill
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02:35.59JoshBorkeAntiarc: set a min resize
02:36.01JJSheetsIs there an event that fires just at or after the loading screen going away?
02:36.02kergothanyone recall the name of an addon that silenced addon load messages?
02:36.05AntiarcI did
02:36.06AntiarcI believe
02:36.06kergothi know one existed
02:36.10EllipsisStopTheSpam
02:36.15AntiarcI also constrain to X resizing only
02:36.17Ellipsisprobably with a couple !!s in front
02:36.30KuraxYssaril: Update AtlasLoot now
02:36.36JoshBorkeAntiarc: ...your code is weird
02:36.42JoshBorkeclamp to screen
02:36.45kergothah, right
02:36.47kergoththanks Ellipsis
02:36.54YssarilKurax, hehe i saw the log msg :P
02:37.01JoshBorkethis:SetScript("OnUpdate", forceSetHeight)
02:37.21AntiarcYou can't constrain the movement to one axis normally
02:37.22AntiarcThat does
02:37.28AntiarcOr rather, the resizing
02:37.58JoshBorkedoesn't that make it so you can't change the height at all?
02:38.01AntiarcYes
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02:38.06AntiarcYou don't want to, try it sometime :P
02:38.11xyuI know what's causing grid to go weird.  If someone is in my raid , but outside the instance, or if i'm outside the instance and everyone is inside.  it's memory usage shoots up like 100 fold.
02:38.14AntiarcIt makes it all ugly-like
02:38.16JoshBorkei did, worked fine for me :-P
02:38.20ArrowmasterROFL WTF
02:38.22Arrowmaster22:38:18> [You] gained Elune's Embrace.
02:38.22Arrowmaster22:38:17> Your equipped items suffer a 10% durability loss.
02:38.22JoshBorkeAntiarc: you just have to change set points
02:38.22Arrowmaster22:38:18> Falling damaged [You] 10680 Physical.
02:38.30CIA-903next96 * r67976 10Enhancer/locale/koKR.lua:
02:38.30CIA-9Enhancer:
02:38.30CIA-9- Add locale koKR
02:38.31Nandinii'm amused that you are deleting libraries, that while pointless, actually work and are in use (other working addons have dependencies on them), but there are at least a hundred other useless addons that don't work and haven't been updated in over a year, and they continue to clutter the svn :)
02:38.31AntiarcOh, that'd make sense.
02:38.51JoshBorkeAntiarc: all the code is in http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/InterfaceOptionsOptions/Options.lua
02:38.53Nicarrasxyu i'm not havin those problems with grid today :(
02:38.56JoshBorkeAntiarc: your implementation is far better though
02:39.01JoshBorkeso i'd steal the part that reanchors
02:39.03xyunic, do you use GridManaBars module?
02:39.14xyuthat's the one doing it.
02:39.18Arrowmasterhow the fuck do those timestamps make any sense
02:39.25JoshBorkeInterfaceOptionsFrameCategories:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", InterfaceOptionsFrame, "BOTTOMLEFT", 22, 50) InterfaceOptionsFrameAddOns:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", InterfaceOptionsFrame, "BOTTOMLEFT", 22, 50)
02:40.30AntiarcI'll hook that up
02:40.32JoshBorkeAntiarc: ^-- is the code
02:41.04AckisNandini: the library was just created today and it shouldn't have been
02:41.47QuantumDeltaArrowmaster click earlier :<
02:41.58QuantumDeltabetter to take 500-1k fall dmg than 100%!
02:42.07Arrowmasteri know
02:42.07ckknightJJSheets: ping
02:42.14JJSheetsckknight, pong
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02:42.25Nicarrasnot on my lock xyu
02:42.28Nicarrason my priest
02:42.37YssarilAntiarc, does your option mover/reziser also enables the chatwindow settings to be movable?
02:42.48CIA-903ackis * r67977 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ (ARL-Alchemy.lua ARL-Jewelcraft.lua ARL-Vendor.lua):
02:42.48CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
02:42.48CIA-9- Converted a bunch of alchemy recipes to use Spell IDs
02:42.48CIA-9- Removed duplicate vendor and updated vendor information for JC
02:42.54AntiarcNo, that's a separate frame, but I could add it easily
02:43.32YssarilAntiarc, it be nice (then i dont have to do it and you prolly do it better than me :P)
02:43.50CIA-903antiarc * r67978 10BetterBlizzOptions/BetterBlizzOptions.lua: BetterBlizzOptions: Enable Y-axis resizing, set a sane min resize. Intentionally not clamped to screen though.
02:44.27JoshBorkehate @ no clamp!
02:44.32JoshBorkeactually, better that way
02:44.42JoshBorkeok, night
02:44.51JoshBorkegj, now make it all optional and remember settings :-P
02:45.26AntiarcOptional, pssh.
02:45.31AntiarcYou want options you get options! :P
02:46.17CIA-903antiarc * r67979 10BetterBlizzOptions/BetterBlizzOptions.lua: BetterBlizzOptions: Make ChatConfigFrame movable too.
02:46.25Yssarilwoot
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02:53.12CIA-903antiarc * r67980 10BetterBlizzOptions/BetterBlizzOptions.lua: BetterBlizzOptions: Make Video, and Sound frames movable as well, just for the hell of it.
02:53.58CIA-903antiarc * r67981 10BetterBlizzOptions/BetterBlizzOptions.lua: BetterBlizzOptions: Remove debug stuff.
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02:54.18kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/wowui-testing-20080403-1.jpg hmm, toying around with a new layout, opinion?  party frames will be horizontal across the top of the screen, and perfectraid along one of the sides
02:54.39on1ydo you all knwo if mother gets pary haste?
02:54.54WobWor1isn't that standard?
02:55.08Silverstormshe does not anymore, I believe
02:55.13Silverstormthey fixed that in 2.3
02:55.27on1ythanks
02:55.33Yssarilkergoth, try with a full square minimap kina looks out of place the way it is atm
02:55.40vithosAntiarc: misdirection isn't working currently, hunter gets the threat
02:55.44kergothtries that
02:55.47AntiarcBah.
02:55.53WobWor1vithos: srsly?
02:55.54AntiarcIt was working for me last night :(
02:55.57AntiarcI'll check it again though
02:56.02vithosit wasnt' working for me last night on my pet
02:56.07WobWor1oh
02:56.08AntiarcOoh, on a pet
02:56.09vithosand it isn't working for me now on the brutallus tank
02:56.09AntiarcTry on a player
02:56.11AntiarcSee if that works
02:56.12AntiarcHm
02:56.13vithos^
02:56.14WobWor1I thought you meant actually ingame =P
02:56.50vithosWobWor1: er yeah, just a threat-2.0 bug, it works in game
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02:57.52durcynAntiarc: so, omen keeps drawing names in the middle of existing bars, before the bars are drawn, it's a bit distracting :>
02:58.13AntiarcYeah, I've seen the bug but not nailed down why it exists
02:58.30Antiarc(obviously)
02:59.34Mudkipzanyone tried that digsby messenger?
02:59.53WobWor1Mudkipz: eh?
03:00.46Mudkipza new messenger
03:01.00MudkipzIM
03:01.00Reclusei've not heard of that one
03:01.00Mudkipzerr sorry
03:01.04MudkipzIt's really new
03:01.26Mudkipzlots of people are saying it's already better than the competition ... they are still working on mac/linux versions
03:01.38CIA-903antiarc * r67982 10BetterBlizzOptions/BetterBlizzOptions.lua:
03:01.38CIA-9BetterBlizzOptions: Add moving to GameOptionsFrame JUST BECAUSE I CAN!
03:01.38CIA-9<PROTECTED>
03:01.47Mudkipzeveryone with mac uses adium anyway
03:02.01SilverstormAntiarc: can we move the entire world frame while we're at it?  :-D
03:02.19WobWor1Mudkipz: link?
03:02.30Mudkipzhttp://www.digsby.com/
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03:05.44demilichpata pata pata pon
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03:05.58Mudkipzshould get that for my psp
03:06.00RecluseHmm, better than pidgin? i wonder
03:06.03XelopherisBrutallus touched me in a special place :(
03:06.09JJSheetslol
03:06.11Mudkipzthey say it's better than pidgin
03:06.18vithoswhy do people run to the FD'd hunter with burn when it's a wipe :(
03:06.21CIA-903siz * r67983 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua:
03:06.21CIA-9JewelTips:
03:06.21CIA-9- Added an enchant
03:06.36Xelopherisbecause they shouldn't learn bosses for free
03:06.42Mudkipz^
03:06.43Mudkipzhahaha
03:06.53vithosokay, but i'm survival
03:07.00vithosso i use agi elixir instead of ap flask
03:07.02vithosso QQ :(
03:07.11XelopherisI'm a feral druid. So I use two elixirs every time I tank
03:07.41Mudkipzdruids r 4 healz
03:07.51Ellipsissum durid is bare
03:07.54Ellipsisbare is 4 fite
03:07.58Aiianecat is 4 fite
03:08.00Mudkipzlicks Ellipsis
03:08.03Aiianebare durids are strong friend
03:08.07Ellipsislieks Mudkipz
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03:08.51Reclusei like my bear druids
03:08.51CIA-903kneeki * r67984 10ClassButtons/ (Core.lua Localization.lua):
03:08.51CIA-9ClassButtons:
03:08.51CIA-9- Made some changes to the priest buttons
03:09.22Mudkipzso i herd
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03:11.08Mudkipzlol wtf
03:11.14JJSheetsckknight, what's the ETA of that change you mentioned?
03:11.25Mudkipzdigsby using 90k of mem... right next to firefox while im configuring it
03:11.34Mudkipzthis can't be right @_@
03:11.53CIA-903sinaloit * r67985 10NRT_EPGP/NRT_EPGP.lua:
03:11.53CIA-9NRT_EPGP:
03:11.53CIA-9- Updated for 4.0-beta EPGP
03:11.54Mudkipz90,236 K to be exact
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03:12.34CIA-9Enhancer:
03:12.34CIA-9- zhCN added
03:13.10hypetechour MT didn't show up in Omen on Mother Shahraz
03:13.48Xelopheris8% >< >< >< ><
03:14.12Xinhuani don't think you can overtake your MT on shahraz anyway, not in full SR gear
03:14.24hypetechwell probably not
03:14.27XelopherisWas your MT appearing on other fights?
03:14.29hypetechjust an observation
03:14.31hypetechyes
03:15.02CIA-903phanx 07Ace3 * r67987 10OnScreenHealth/ (5 files): OnScreenHealth: commit functional Ace3 version before venturing into AceConfig-3.0 territory
03:15.21durcynAntiarc: should move KeyBindingFrame too imo
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03:19.57hypetechoh...council trash is scary :(
03:20.44sag_ich_nicht6[Red Belt of Battle] is the biggest scam ever in WoW... it's not red :(
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03:21.25WobWorksag_ich_nicht: You need more battle and thus blood
03:21.37WobWorkit's a self staining belt, but you have to provide the blood
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03:22.39Ackisomg i totally tried to click on the belt link and was upset nothing popped up...
03:22.52CIA-903ackis * r67988 10AckisRecipeList/ (14 files in 2 dirs):
03:22.52CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
03:22.52CIA-9- All Alchemy recipes use Spell ID now
03:22.52CIA-9- Move from Babble-Faction-2.2 to 3.0
03:23.19sag_ich_nichtAckis: i troll'd u
03:23.23Ellipsisyou think that's bad? I ctrl-clicked it to see what he was complaining about
03:25.25CIA-903kurax * r67989 10AtlasLoot/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
03:25.25CIA-9AtlasLoot:
03:25.25CIA-9- Remove some unnecessary translations since now they can be obtained from game.
03:25.27aestili return!
03:25.53aestili had some great teryaki steak for dinner.  mjummie
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03:26.53Ackislol
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03:27.18Ackisconverting from babble-tradeskill to spell id's makes my limited IQ drop
03:27.53Ellipsisaestil: hope you brought back a doggy bag for us
03:28.00EllipsisI'm hungry
03:28.08Kuraxme too
03:28.18aestilthis week is going to fail.
03:28.26[VeXeD]Hi Ellipsis :]
03:28.30aestili have to close 4 of 5 nights in a row.
03:29.05Ellipsishi [VeXeD]
03:29.52[VeXeD]How's you
03:30.04CIA-903jjsheets * r67990 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (9 files):
03:30.04CIA-9InfiniBar-2.0 - Added Revision Number to tooltip display. Added Flash, Border,
03:30.04CIA-9and Icon Highlighter Text Subs. Added associated DogTags to the InfiniBar
03:30.04CIA-9namespace. Added FlashEngine.lua. Added dogtags to make tracking changes to
03:30.04CIA-9status capable of flashing the button according to dogtags used. Fixed numerous
03:30.07CIA-9bugs from the forum post.
03:30.25Arrowmasterbah now i have 17.84% spell hit
03:30.48[VeXeD]On what class?
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03:31.01Arrowmasterwarlock
03:31.16durcyndon't worry, it'll disappear in sunwell
03:31.18EllipsisJJSheets: how heavily are you using dogtag callbacks atm?
03:31.31Arrowmasterhate t6 non set loots fuck ton of +hit
03:31.36CIA-903gamefaq * r67991 10WitchHunt/locales/deDE.lua: WitchHunt: deDE Update
03:32.12Arrowmasterif i regem my t5 shoulders and lurker belt to not have +hit/+dmg gems im still over cap
03:32.37CIA-903next96 * r67992 10Enhancer/locale/koKR.lua:
03:32.37CIA-9Enhancer:
03:32.37CIA-9- Update locale koKR
03:33.40demilichwish mods could detect who doomfire was chasing
03:34.54CIA-903xinhuan * r67993 10LibItemBonus-2.0/LibItemBonus-2.0/core.lua: LibItemBonus-2.0: Add missing combat rating mapping CR_EXPERTISE
03:34.57Silverstormheh, not sure that would help...either you can avoid fire, or you can't
03:36.07Arrowmasterdoomfire is random
03:36.22Arrowmasterwe just kill archimonde and at times it wasnt chasing anybody
03:36.25vithosit seems to target people
03:36.39vithosbut it's retargetting seems to be conal and have range
03:36.46vithosand it goes random if it can't aggro anyone
03:36.56SilverstormI hope we get Archi...that will make this 3 hours one shots of Illidan and all of Hyjal
03:37.01vithosbut it could just be me seeing patterns where there is none
03:37.52vithoswe have people try to "kite" it straight outward
03:37.59vithosinstead of sidestepping, cause it seems to curl if you sidestep it
03:38.23CIA-903cryect 072.4 * r67994 10Recount2/ (6 files):
03:38.23CIA-9Recount2:
03:38.23CIA-9-Can reset data now via Recount2:ResetData()
03:38.54demilichwe only raid 3 times a week so our archi attempts tend to only get 1 hour a week
03:38.58demilichtakes a while to learn fights that way
03:39.02CIA-903ckknight * r67995 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (5 files): LibDogTag-3.0 - change API so that specifying multiple namespaces is done by a single string separated by semicolons rather than a tuple of strings.
03:39.17Ellipsisoh snap
03:39.22demilichas for avoiding fire, it seems to be a recurring issue :P
03:39.55Reclusehmm, that digsby is certainly shiny
03:40.30Silverstormwe are defenders of a doomed world!!!
03:40.31CIA-903jjsheets * r67996 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Button.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Updated to use new LibDogTag syntax.
03:41.02on1ydamn recoutn is at 20 megs
03:42.38vithosit stores a lot of information
03:43.01vithosyou can disable some of the data capture in options
03:44.08demilichargh. now someone forgot to use their tears.
03:45.16CIA-903gamefaq * r67997 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-deDE.lua: Bartender3: deDE Update
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03:45.58Xelopherislawl, wiping to tears
03:46.02XelopherisBet it was a mage
03:46.13demilichdruid
03:46.28XelopherisLies. Us druids are too good for that
03:46.41Silverstormwe haven't cratered in a while...but we fail at staying away from fires with an imminent fear
03:46.42demilichshe's a very good druid, just likes to press tears late and this time it bit her
03:46.55Silverstormbetter to press early and take 3k falling
03:47.01Silverstormor press and go cat
03:47.22vithosi think i try to hit tears when i'm halfway down
03:47.47vithosbetter to take a little fall damage than cause a wipe due to a lag spike
03:48.32Xelopherisyou ever seen anyone fall through the world with that?
03:48.40CIA-903ackis * r67998 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Enchant.lua:
03:48.40CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
03:48.40CIA-9- Converted all enchanting trainer recipes to spell IDs
03:48.41vithosi fell through the world while feared once
03:48.48vithosand i was actually talking to a GM at the time
03:48.52vithosso he ported me back up
03:48.57vithoson archimonde
03:49.02Xelopheriswow :P
03:49.05Xelopherislucky you
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03:51.51KuraxWhat's the difference between UnitClass and UnitClassBase?
03:53.34EllipsisUnitClassBase is pre-2.4 behavior
03:53.38Aiianeone belongs to us
03:53.40Xinhuanclass, englishclass = UnitClassBase()
03:53.55Xinhuanclass, englishclass = UnitClass() <-- first return value is the name of the NPC if it is not a player
03:54.13Arrowmasteris that still bugged?
03:54.19Xinhuanits not a bug
03:54.22Xinhuani think its intended
03:54.34Arrowmasternpcs have classes too though
03:54.50Xinhuanyeah so you get UnitClassBase() to get the class of the NPC
03:55.14aestilwhat is the error? http://ace.pastey.net/85051
03:55.15FroMasterDo i need permission (ie account) to check in a change to a mod?
03:55.21Xinhuanyes
03:55.27demilichnow our main tank got...parry gibbed or something
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03:55.47Ellipsisaestil: nobody knows
03:56.14Ellipsissome people get it, some don't
03:56.18demilichthe parry gibbing thing could use some adjustment
03:56.32Xinhuanget more expertise! ;p
03:56.40FroMasterSomeone who has access want to make a simple change in a Toc? Its missing the Localization .lua. I keep adding it but every time i update my mods it overwrites the change..
03:57.12Xinhuanwhat addon
03:57.17FroMasterAutoFIR
03:57.24KuraxNPC's classes are meaningless, I mean, all times you can see are warriors and pals, sometimes you can see a shaman or mage if you are lucky
03:57.25Xinhuanwhat is it missing
03:57.55FroMasterits missing the line 'Locale-enUS.lua' just above the 'Locale-deDE.lua'
03:58.12FroMasterWhen I add it by hand, everything works great
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03:58.32EllipsisKurax: there are only 3 types of npc classes, warr pally and mage :P
03:58.45KuraxEllipsis: I've seen shaman
03:58.49Ellipsiswarriors have no mana, pallies have mana but primarily melee, and mages are casters
03:58.53CIA-903xinhuan * r67999 10AutoFIR/AutoFIR.toc:
03:58.53CIA-9AutoFIR:
03:58.53CIA-9- Add Locale-enUS.lua to TOC.
03:59.04FroMasterXinhuan: Thank you
03:59.14EllipsisKurax: I don't believe you :P
04:00.08CIA-903isler * r68000 10RangeDisplay/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
04:00.08CIA-9RangeDisplay:
04:00.08CIA-9<PROTECTED>
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04:00.22KuraxEllipsis: It's TRUE, go around the world and find for yourself, the Lengendary of Shammy...
04:00.29JJSheetslol
04:00.47Xinhuani chuckled
04:04.53demilichparry gib again. what the hell
04:05.18Xinhuanwhat boss
04:05.26demilicharchimonde
04:08.37Arrowmasterlol
04:09.00Arrowmasterarch cant crush, tell tank to take off some defense for other better stats
04:09.17Kuraxlol some Chinese guy modified Parrot to support 2.4, the amazing thing is it's using Ace3 now rofl
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04:09.39starlon_Where is it?
04:09.51tejingsomeone should make a grid status mod that shows kalecgos' curse of boundless agony only when it's been up for x seconds or when it's on someone who's going to leave the shadow realm within y seconds. (x and y configurable obviously)
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04:10.51aestilparry gib again?
04:10.52SkyflakeHello guys, I was looking for a mod and was wondering if anyone could advice me.
04:10.54KuraxAh nope, still using Rock
04:10.57aestilis it a pally tank?
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04:11.22SkyflakeI'm looking for a mod that lists people that are cursed. And makes it possible to decurse them trough that frame
04:11.24CIA-903ackis * r68001 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Enchant.lua:
04:11.24CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
04:11.24CIA-9-All enchanting recipes converted to Spell ID
04:11.28Skyflakeanyone know of such a mod?
04:11.47aestilSkyflake: pretty sure thats not possible anymore.
04:12.42aestilanyone else have problems watching the office because its just too embarssing?
04:14.21Skyflakeaestil yea?
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04:18.10hypetechSkyflake: Decursive is pretty simple...
04:18.18KuraxSkyflake: Decursive
04:19.32Skyflakety
04:24.20CIA-903ackis * r68002 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Enchant.lua:
04:24.20CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
04:24.20CIA-9- Forgot some enchanting stuffz my bad
04:26.34JJSheetsnight ya'll, I have an EARLY morning tomorrow...
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04:36.19basslingoanyone here have experiance using wowbench (yea i know how out of date it is.... im trying to update it.... one error at a time)
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04:38.18CIA-903ckknight * r68003 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Events.lua Helpers.lua): LibDogTag-3.0 - change callback system internals.
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04:39.39basslingoill take that silence as a no.... or people are sleeping ;)
04:39.58VonhintenHOME`Antiarc, raid with the latest curse version was pretty good tonight
04:40.03VonhintenHOME`No obviously problems
04:40.07VonhintenHOME`obvious
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04:40.29MentalPowerbasslingo: Mikk wrote it, he's in the channel
04:40.51MentalPowerbasslingo: your biggest hurdle will be the taint system
04:41.25basslingowell, so far its rewriting all the for loops that didnt have pairs()
04:41.27basslingo-.-
04:42.22MentalPowerlemme make sure we're on the same page, WoWBench the WoW Lua simulator?
04:42.32basslingoyea
04:43.08basslingolets also state that im on a mac
04:43.19basslingodifferent spot/names for some things
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04:49.07MentalPowerbasslingo: if its general Lua questions you can ask here, in #WoWUIDev or in #Lua
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04:49.23CIA-903ckknight * r68004 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Events.lua test.lua):
04:49.23CIA-9LibDogTag-3.0 - bugfix to callbacks being called more than once
04:49.23CIA-9- add the ability to supply an extra argument for callbacks
04:49.49basslingono, im fine. just slow goings
04:50.31MentalPowerif its Lua internals then you can ask in #Lua or the Lua mailing list
04:51.23CIA-903ackis * r68005 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
04:51.23CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
04:51.23CIA-9- Fix duplicate vendor ID
04:51.23CIA-9- Added localizations for all vendors
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04:59.48sbingnerI'm so going to blow something up... I made directory links of all my accounts in WTF, so that I can see between accounts with addons (oneView etc) -- it works fine so far, but something's gonna go boom :)
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05:02.39WobWorksbingner: it's like dividing by zero
05:04.22sbingnerWobWork, yea... but I CAN do this :p
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05:10.06NeoTronhrm
05:10.11NeoTronOmen AoE mode doesn't do anything at all now :-/
05:11.42pastamancerhmm, who was it that was looking to do away with babble-spell by getting a list of spell ids/names?
05:12.43the-golemnot sure that i like the new omen tbh
05:13.18MentalPowerXinhuan, Cryect: Any API docs for LibGraph? (other than the code)
05:13.25Xinhuannope heh
05:13.30Xinhuanjust the code
05:13.33Xinhuanyou have to ask cryect
05:13.49Xinhuani merely ported it to libstub and did upgrading paths
05:14.12MentalPowerCryect: ping!
05:14.17MentalPower~seen Cryect
05:14.19purlcryect is currently on #wowace (4d 6h 11m 3s). Has said a total of 191 messages. Is idling for 5h 30m 36s, last said: 'I need to go through and actually figure out everything that needs resetting'.
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05:15.56MentalPowerXinhuan: do you know how it works?
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05:16.03Xinhuannot really
05:16.19Xinhuanbut at the bottom of the file
05:16.23Xinhuanare 4 sample graphs
05:16.26Xinhuantake a look at it
05:16.32Xinhuanit should give you a starting point
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05:16.55Xinhuan--To test the library do /script LibStub("LibGraph-2.0"):TestGraph2Lib()
05:17.31MentalPowerXinhuan: many thanks
05:17.31WobWor1ironically
05:17.36WobWor1upon my division by zero
05:17.39WobWor1the internet broke
05:17.59MentalPowerWobWor1: so you've been doing division by zero all day? :P
05:18.07WobWor1yeah
05:18.12WobWor1I keep hoping one time will work
05:19.17MentalPowerlol
05:20.16Ellipsisis THAT why my connection keeps dying
05:20.22WobWorkyeah =
05:20.23WobWork\
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05:20.24EllipsisWobWork, keep your math out of my internets
05:20.35WobWorkthat's alright
05:20.37WobWorkI do maths
05:20.38WobWorknot math
05:20.44Ellipsissilly aussies
05:20.48WobWorkcrazy merkins =P
05:21.24NeoTronBug: Omen doesn't reset threat between phases on Supremyus
05:21.49Xinhuansomeone should make a Omen2 NPC Modules thread
05:21.54Xinhuanso all these bugs can go there
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05:24.06CIA-9Quelevel: 03tekkub 07master * r1356b703cb 10Quelevel/Quelevel.lua: Fix for nil arg1's
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05:31.11CIA-903next96 * r68006 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua:
05:31.11CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
05:31.11CIA-9- Update locale koKR
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05:38.05rjm_anyone know what dependencies tinytip needs, or is it broken?
05:38.23Brunerscowtip ftw
05:39.01rjm_no tinytip
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05:39.15Grumrjm_: tinytip works but i'm not sure it has ingame configuration already
05:39.28Aiianeit does... TinyTipOptions
05:40.35Grumgood :)
05:40.40AiianeTinyTip = core, TinyTipOptions = configuration
05:40.47Aiianehttp://files.wowace.com/sw-t.html for details
05:40.52rjm_uh, _working_ configurations
05:41.12rjm_I right-clicked on the fubar tinytip thing and it died
05:41.16Brunersi doubt there is anything other than that really
05:41.28Aiianethat's probably just fubar integration being borked, rjm
05:41.35Aiianetry just typing /tinytip or the like
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05:44.42Arrowmasterrjm_: tinytip doesnt have a fubar config
05:44.44aestilwhat is quelevel?
05:44.50Arrowmasterit never has
05:45.38Arrowmasteronly a fubarplugin made by somebody else that just opened the old tinytips menu but doesnt work with the new one
05:46.59FroMasterAnyone still maintaning FuBar_HonorFu?
05:47.16Aiianedoes look like thrae might have typo'd something though, Arrowmaster`
05:47.33Aiianejust updated to the revamped tinytipoptions and it's tossing a lua error
05:48.37Aiianehttp://rafb.net/p/wZEraa54.html
05:51.17aestilTekkub: what is quelevel
05:51.26aestilanyone excited that 30 rock is coming back next week?
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05:51.34Tekkubquest levels
05:51.58CIA-903next96 * r68007 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Vendor.lua:
05:51.58CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
05:51.58CIA-9- LibBabble-Faction-3.0 fix
05:52.16aestilthose aren't built into the game?
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05:52.42aestilis it like a mod for people who want to use the standard quest frame, but want to know quest levels as well?
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05:52.59Brunersthere was some questlevel mod yes
05:53.05smoke_does classtimers sync scorch now since 2.4 combatlog api change?
05:53.10Brunersno idea if it still works
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05:55.51Brunersaestil: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6784-QuestLevels.html
05:56.10sag_ich_nicht[freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp <--oh shi-
05:56.12sag_ich_nichti'm dead
05:56.24pastamancerdoomed!
05:56.25Arrowmasterlol
05:56.53Brunersthink i saw a quest level mod getting posted by someone the other day
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06:09.19SilverstormFroMaster: think I saw ckknight commit something a few days back (after 2.4)
06:10.08Parnicwhat's a good addon for pvp capture/win timers?
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06:10.44zaplcapping, alarbghelper, sspvp, ...
06:10.58Parnicthanks
06:11.16sag_ich_nichtno
06:11.22Parnicyep
06:11.27sag_ich_nichtalarbghelper is not a good addon for anything
06:11.34Shadowedsspvp sucks
06:11.35Shadoweddon't use it
06:11.39zaplhrhr
06:11.43Parniccoming from you that means a lot, sag.
06:11.51Parnicgoes to download alarbghelper
06:12.07sag_ich_nichtroflmao
06:12.09sag_ich_nichtenjoy your aids
06:12.11sag_ich_nichtahahaha
06:12.11sag_ich_nichtXinhuan
06:12.14sag_ich_nichtlaught at him
06:12.16sag_ich_nichtdo itr
06:12.17sag_ich_nicht-r
06:12.34Parniclaugh at me faster!
06:13.06sag_ich_nichtno
06:13.09sag_ich_nichti'm going to bed
06:13.19Parnicyou can't go, you haven't sufficiently insulted or mocked me
06:13.21Parnickeep going.
06:13.44sag_ich_nichti already had my a hilarious moment today when the mom of one of the guys i hang out with on ventrilo joined vent while he was afk and we started calling her names
06:13.51sag_ich_nicht-a
06:13.59vithosShadowed: why do you say sspvp sucks?
06:14.05Shadowedit sucks
06:14.08Shadowedthe authors an asshole
06:14.19sag_ich_nichtlol
06:14.21vithosthat may be true, but is there some reason i should stop using it?
06:14.24sag_ich_nichthey
06:14.25Shadowedyea
06:14.25sag_ich_nichtShadowed
06:14.31Shadowedbecause i said so!
06:14.35sag_ich_nichtwhy you pulled uncle scrooge
06:14.35sag_ich_nicht:(
06:14.40Shadowedi didn't
06:14.41Shadowedit's on wowi
06:14.41vithoscontinues using it.
06:14.51sag_ich_nichti wanted to keep it to mock ckknight!
06:14.57Shadowedthinks vithos didn't look at author
06:15.17Diaolol
06:15.23vithosthere's only one S in shadowed!
06:15.53vithosgod damn it :(
06:15.55Shadowedhaha
06:15.58Ellipsispwned
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06:16.04vithoswhat is the other S for
06:16.05zaplauthor @ wowi is written in a different font. so cant be you :p
06:16.30aestilre: alar mods.
06:16.37aestili think the consensus is to stay away.
06:16.53sag_ich_nichtno shit?
06:16.59sag_ich_nichthow you found out that sherlock?
06:17.07aestil[hey, someone suggested it]
06:17.18aestil[so, *someone* didn't know]
06:17.19sag_ich_nichtanyway
06:17.21sag_ich_nichti go to bed now
06:17.24sag_ich_nichtnight
06:17.30aestilenjoy your anal sex!
06:17.31aestil;)
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06:17.51sag_ich_nichtnope
06:17.54sag_ich_nichtno GF atm
06:17.55sag_ich_nicht:/
06:18.04sag_ich_nichtno GF in a long time actually
06:18.06sag_ich_nichtanyway
06:18.06sag_ich_nichtnight
06:18.08vithosElkano! just the author i wanted to bug
06:18.18Grumtickles sag_ich_nicht
06:18.24zaplyou will not find them on irc, sag_ich_nicht  :)
06:18.28sag_ich_nicht~kill Grum
06:18.29purlACTION shoots a super-inverse fluxmeson gun at Grum
06:18.32sag_ich_nichtzapl: NO SHIT?
06:18.36Grum~lick sag_ich_nicht
06:18.37purlACTION licks sag_ich_nicht *SHLUUURRRRPPP*
06:18.43sag_ich_nichtGrum diaf
06:18.49sag_ich_nichtnow NIGHT, stop bothering me
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06:19.00vithosElkano: could you add an easy way to make one buff group's blacklist = another group's whitelist?
06:19.03sag_ich_nichti'll just set myself +d if you do :P
06:19.04sag_ich_nichtnight :P
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06:21.29zaplbtw.. Shadowed has sspvp functionality to copy time left of capture objects to /bg? since i use the same interface as a friend i am stuck at alar for that reason atm.
06:21.36Shadowedprobably
06:22.39Elkanovithos, the easiest way would currently be: set up one list and then edit the saved variables ;)
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06:26.09aestilckknight: why can't i click and drag chinchilla, what am i doing wrong?
06:26.56LukianLOL Sweet! The new version of witchhunt uses spell icons :D
06:27.13ParnicYou can honestly say that you have just made a Chilean Chinchilla's chin chilly.
06:28.17aestilwtf, my minimap is in the middle of my screen.?
06:28.24aestilwhat sv do i have to kill.
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06:30.24durcynzapl: Capping can send timers to /bg.
06:31.39LukianXinhuan, wowequip "Send" doesn't seem to be functioning
06:31.56Xinhuancheck version numbers
06:32.10Lukianhas to be identical?
06:32.25Xinhuannot really
06:32.30Xinhuanbut check them
06:33.54FroMasterAnyone still maintaning FuBar_HonorFu?
06:34.15LukianXinhuan, ok that's bizzare
06:34.38Lukianthe receiver is using with-externals and has 0.91, whereas I use without externals and have v0.9
06:35.00Xinhuanshould be fine
06:35.15Xinhuandid the other side enable receiving
06:35.23LukianI'll check ;d
06:35.37SilverstormFroMaster: think I saw ckknight commit something a few days back (after 2.4)
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06:37.34stavmarXinhuan: you do bank stack correct?
06:37.39Xinhuanno
06:37.48LukianXinhuan, is there an option for default gems / carrying gems across from previousitem?
06:37.48stavmarok, nvm
06:37.56Xinhuanno
06:38.23Kuraxhttp://media.curse.com/dl2/23/121/686.jpg/wow_wotlk_bard_1.jpg
06:38.29KuraxBard ftw
06:38.32CIA-903antiarc * r68008 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Threat-2.0: Rearrange the passive threat modifiers to properly re-set after a module disable/enable. Thanks Thomas, nevcariel.
06:38.35LukianXinhuan, will there be? :D
06:38.39Xinhuanmaybe
06:38.49Lukianthat's good enough for me :)
06:39.04stavmarXinhuan: you never made a mod that sorted the bank like MrPlow, it only uses slash commands?
06:39.10Xinhuannope
06:39.19stavmari must be going crazy then
06:39.37stavmarwell i want to tell you that routes is awesome
06:39.46stavmari really enjoy it with gathermate
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06:40.12Grumyou are going crazy indeed stavmar:D
06:40.57stavmarGrum: why is that
06:41.17GrumXinhuan would have made mrplow better ! ;D
06:41.49stavmarso should I be using MrPlow again, I am using BankStack i blieve, and it works so fast
06:42.00stavmarIt just has a problem sorting priaml nethers in teh right place
06:42.49Grumbankstack is brrr butt i use it as well
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06:50.13Arrowmasterckknight: i found a bug with your RockConsole:PrintLiteral()
06:50.28Ellipsisthis is relevant to my interests
06:50.31Ellipsis(though it really should be on jira)
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06:50.52Arrowmasternot really a bug but more like a failure of its parsing
06:50.55zaplElkano: http://ace.pastey.net/85059-39v4  my answer was yes plz, that .bat thing still planned to be included?
06:52.38ArrowmasterEllipsis: if you dump a table with a metatable of __index=table2, and table2 has an __index metatable then it will only show the stuff directly in table2 and not its metatable
06:52.51Brunerswhat is a good setup for 3v3 with a holy paladin ?
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06:53.22EllipsisArrowmaster: so basically it doesn't recurse into metatables past one level?
06:53.28Arrowmasterright
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06:54.11Arrowmasterits also probably why im seeing [0] = userdata:.... in my proxy table
06:55.30CIA-903antiarc * r68009 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: Fix a problem with pet threat clears. Thanks, Elkano.
06:56.36zaplBruners: http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/31/blood-sport-warrior-druid-overpowered/
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06:59.02Elkanozapl, thanks for reminding me ^^'
06:59.24zapl:)
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06:59.56AbsoRaynedo do do
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07:03.52zaplis it possible to just stay in the lfg channel? autoglfg is nice but no lfg when in full grp :(
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07:05.19Pheredhelno, it's not possible (if it is, it should be a bug)
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07:09.51durcyni usually pick up some random group quest then use it to turn on lfg
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07:13.10odti thought lfg is the new barrens chat
07:13.14odtwhy would anyone wanna be there
07:14.42zapllfg chat spam > all
07:15.24durcyneh, most of the crap ends up in trade, which I don't think I've had on in three years or os
07:15.27durcynso*
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07:18.37zaplthat is because blizz failed at lfg tool, channel,.. but mostly in making the channel unavaliable to players that want it
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07:19.46kalahassii cant understand why they hide things in this tool that i still want to see
07:20.44VonhintenHOME`It's an unsolvable problem really... most of the people that want a group, are people that good groups don't want
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07:21.27zaplmost groups consist only of those ppl
07:22.19kalahassii like to know the people in my group, want to be sure they know the instance 120% ,but sometimes youve no choice
07:23.19CIA-903elsia * r68010 10Recount/Recount.lua:
07:23.19CIA-9Recount:
07:23.19CIA-9- Fix for nil problems of profile handling at startup.
07:23.58zaplwhen leveling you have no choice. that is what i do now. and bothering the guild with every fking low level instance is not what i want. sometimes pug with stupid ppl is even fun
07:25.34odti still question what other people are doing when i do 60% of the dps, and the other 3 share the remaining 40%
07:26.35NeoTronany known Omen issues on bloodboil?
07:27.28AntiarcNot since last night's update
07:27.52XinhuanAntiarc, threat isn't auto cleared between illidan phases (this is 9 hours ago)
07:28.12AntiarcHrm.
07:29.23Xinhuanthis is r67825 that is, when i did ilidan
07:29.33Xinhuan9 hours ago
07:30.06VonhintenHOME`wasn't there a bug fix just recently about human phase on illidan
07:30.07AntiarcIt should have worked then; I'll see what I can find.
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07:30.27Xinhuanr67820 <-- whatever this did, it didn't work
07:30.35Xinhuancos running 67825 and it didn't clear
07:30.44Xinhuanand i have (A)
07:30.54Xinhuanor is it only the (L) that issues a threat wipe?
07:31.10AntiarcAnyone can issue a programmatic threat wipe
07:31.16AntiarcOnly A/L can issue non-module threat wipes
07:31.18Antiarc(sorta)
07:31.37Xinhuani mean the auto threat clears
07:31.39Xinhuanwho issues them
07:31.43Antiarcyeah, anyone should be able to
07:31.54Xinhuani had (A) and it wasn't auto cleaerd then
07:32.02Xinhuan1->2 is fine, 2->3 is fine
07:32.08Xinhuanbut 3->4 and 4->3 wasn't cleared
07:34.19CIA-903antiarc * r68011 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (14 files in 2 dirs):
07:34.19CIA-9Threat-2.0:
07:34.19CIA-9- Upvalue a craptop of globals. Go go gadget luac -l
07:34.19CIA-9- Should fix a few issues with version reporting, and should make the whole thing a bit quicker.
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07:36.04CIA-903ammo * r68012 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: bugfix invalid spellID
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07:37.58SilverstormAntiarc: Noticed the same issue on Illidan, Threat v.67942
07:38.15AntiarcBah, okay. Thanks.
07:38.28Silverstormnp, it's reported here by yet another person: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/OMEN-35
07:38.49charonmorning
07:38.51ArrowmasterAntiarc: i sent you logs of illidan the other week
07:39.00AntiarcYup, I'm pulling 'em up now.
07:39.22VonhintenHOME`Actually, that reminds me, I used to be able to right click Omen and do a manual threat clear
07:39.26VonhintenHOME`Can't do that anymore
07:39.34AntiarcThere's no Ace3 dropdown library
07:39.35AntiarcIt's coming
07:39.40AntiarcI'll finish it when Omen is stable :P
07:39.48VonhintenHOME`cool
07:40.36[Ammo]use EasyMenu antiarc
07:44.08FroMasterAntiarc: During VR when he does a knockback does the Tank's threat get reduced?
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07:44.19Aiianeyes
07:44.19AntiarcIt should in theory, in practice I haven't tested it ;)
07:44.48FroMasterWe did VR tonight and our tanks threat never dropped during a knockback
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07:45.17FroMasterCaused our Ranged to pull aggro cuz they thought they were ok on threat
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07:46.06VonhintenHOME`Used to subtract too much threat on VR
07:47.56charonprepare for the ultimate newbie question *drumroll*
07:48.00charonwhat's an upvalue?'
07:48.03AntiarcWhich revision, FroMaster?
07:48.25Arrowmastercharon: a local value
07:48.55Antiarchttp://www.lua.org/pil/27.3.3.html
07:49.15mitch0wtf, cosmos is still around? someone commited "- Adds a button to the Feature Frame in Cosmos" into RangeDisplay...
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07:49.31KuraxAntiarc: Omen not compatible with KTM now right?
07:49.34AntiarcCorrect
07:49.39Kuraxkk
07:50.12VonhintenHOME`ah, static function variable, I wondered about that too
07:50.13durcynso apparently kenco was in here yesterday
07:50.25Lukian18:48:55 [Guild] <70:Moxxe>: is it possible for a warrior to have 3k AP unbuffed?
07:50.53Arrowmasterdurcyn: no he wasnt
07:51.15basslingoLukian:no clue but ive gotten a 12,969 execute crit :P
07:51.22basslingothat ought to count for somthing
07:51.32Lukianon a vulnerable mob or just straight? :o
07:51.38basslingoCurator
07:51.43basslingoboss fight :)
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07:51.54durcynwell, someone with his name anyway Arrowmaster ;)
07:51.57durcyn20080402 00:05:57< Kenco> oh hi
07:52.21basslingohttp://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1238/finhugerg2.jpg
07:52.22Arrowmasterwas guys in another channel playing a joke on somebody and all switching names when that person got disconnected
07:52.29basslingoi took the liberty to ss it :P
07:52.51Arrowmasterbasslingo: meh theres much better mobs to get big numbers on
07:52.58basslingotrue
07:53.06Arrowmasterive gotten a 42199 curse of doom
07:53.34basslingothat 12,969 is the biggest ive gotten so far. Im only in T4 and some S2-S3 gear
07:53.36Arrowmasteras affliction spec so theres no +% from spec there
07:53.59VonhintenHOME`Sit in the blue beam of netherspite for the whole thing, that oughta produce some bigger numbers
07:54.00basslingoraid buffed im at around 35% crit
07:54.09ArrowmasterVonhintenHOME`: thats what i did
07:54.22basslingohehehe the pallies allready have to put salv on me
07:54.32Arrowmasterthen i got a lucky shadowbolt crit right before it went off
07:54.35basslingodont wanna piss em off TOO much
07:54.44VonhintenHOME`I do that on my rogue, vanish is ftw
07:54.56basslingoheh, no escape options as war
07:55.44basslingowell..... dps war that is ;)
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07:56.56VonhintenHOME`Learn2getDI'd imo
07:59.01basslingo:P i dont wanna rely on paly stuffs but kinda have too at some point
07:59.21RafHi Antiarc!
07:59.33RafGot a problem
07:59.35durcyneh, does logging in on top of yourself still clear threat?
07:59.50Rafhttp://armory.mmo-champion.com/reputations_out/
07:59.55RafForbidden
07:59.55RafYou don't have permission to access /reputations_out/ on this server.
08:00.26AntiarcRaf: Yeah, Bibi's moving the servers
08:00.30AntiarcSome hiccups to be expected
08:00.37AntiarcHe should have it ironed out soon
08:00.41Bibioh yeah, blame Bibi
08:00.45Bibi^^
08:00.49AntiarcEverything is Bibi's fault
08:00.54AntiarcOmen not working? Bibi did it.
08:00.58AntiarcServer down? Bibi did it.
08:01.02basslingochmod 775  ftw
08:01.03basslingo:)
08:01.08AntiarcGirlfriend cheated on you? Bibi did her.
08:01.12BibiI wish :/
08:01.15basslingolol
08:01.22BibiBoyfriend cheated on you? Yeah, Bibi probably did him.
08:01.37Bibianyway, it's not that easy basslingo
08:01.49basslingoi know its not :)
08:01.54basslingowish it was sometimes
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08:02.23mitch0oh, someone should update CallbackHandler's wiki
08:02.46AntiarcSo my server is sitting at 99% towards phase 3
08:02.53AntiarcAnd people are getting restless
08:02.59Orionshockis onUpdate passed the frame or just the elapsed time?
08:03.01mitch0it says that New(t) will add RegisterEvent() and such to t, but in fact it adds RegisterCallback() and such
08:03.13mitch0orion: afaik frame is passed, too
08:03.15basslingowe just got the portal up about......... 5 hrs ago
08:03.19mitch0OnUpdate(frame, elapsed)
08:03.23Orionshockkk
08:03.35AntiarcWell, CC is estimated to be the 8th largest US server, population-wise
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08:04.32basslingo<-- madoran
08:04.38basslingowe are itty bitty
08:04.59basslingoonly 2 guilds in SSC / TK
08:04.59AythI look forward to p3... of course... I also have not done a single daily for my server =(
08:08.00basslingo1 horde side 1 ally side
08:12.00basslingoanother horde guild is getting close though
08:12.00RafAntiarc: did you add "The Scales of the Sands" in the code?
08:12.00Rafour server got the portal opened yesterday at least
08:12.01basslingooh Antiarc: you know mmo-champion has been referenced on taverncast right :P
08:12.01AythThe portal is nice... though the flight was pretty quick anyway
08:12.01AntiarcRaf: I didn't - been swamped with Omen stuff.
08:12.01VonhintenHOME`We're at 90% till Phase 3
08:12.01Rafok
08:12.01ramozWho's the author of jWowUpdater?
08:12.01Elkano245 chars in my guild and I'm the only player online... :/
08:12.01Rafkeep up the good work. We're using Omen in our guild
08:12.01Rafhaving "fun" with Kalecgos atm :-)
08:12.01basslingo45% of our guild has been using ktm since patch due to omen instability
08:12.01basslingo:(
08:12.01AythKalecgos IS fun
08:12.03NeoTronomen didn't work at all on supremus, nor RoS
08:12.03NeoTronreal fun on RoS when I didn't see myself on the threat meter
08:12.03basslingolol
08:12.03Arrowmastermy servers like 105th or something on the list =(
08:12.03Arrowmastergg release day pvp servers
08:12.03JaxonNeoTron: that means you had no thread and could've DPSed harder.
08:12.03RafNeoTron: class?
08:12.03AythWhere's the list?
08:12.03NeoTronwarlock
08:12.03Rafhehe
08:12.03NeoTronJaxon: I didn't want to wipe us :P
08:12.03Raf<-- Hunter, much worse on RoS
08:12.03NeoTronpulling threat there is such a bad idea
08:12.03NeoTronI can't see how it can be much worth than "not showing up at all"
08:12.03durcynit's supremus, just stand behind a mage and shatter when it gets in melee range, two problems solved.
08:12.04Raflol
08:12.04nevcairiellol
08:12.04NeoTronso supremus definitely semed to just kill off the melee one by one in the first inning
08:12.04Rafanother thing: didn't Blizz "fix" the chat settings not being saved?
08:12.04Orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/85063
08:12.04NeoTronthere was no "2nd aggro" it was everyone BUT 2nd aggro
08:12.04durcynRaf: nah, it didn't make it into 2.4.1
08:12.04Rafaha
08:12.04Orionshockeh? ramblings? yellings? comments / suggestions?
08:12.04Rafthat explains why I'm still getting the shit back
08:12.04Aythya supremus is a bit wacky
08:12.04sbkalecgos sucks :/
08:12.04ramozNeoTron: you know Supremus strikes the person with highest HP in melee range, not second on aggro
08:12.04Ayth<3 kalecgos
08:12.04ramozjust like the .. boss in naxx
08:12.04sbdo you use any arcane resistance? (violet badge e.g.)
08:12.04durcynNeoTron: you act like you've never enjoyed a blizzard content patch before.  every single boss ability in every single previous instance gets fubar'd with each new minor version number.
08:12.04ramozpatchwerk?
08:12.04JaxonRaf: I'll give you that.  I've started asking for Salvation over Might on RoS.  Breaking the FD too early and you end up not losing any threat.
08:12.06durcynit's like blizzard trains monkeys to go in and break spells intentionally
08:12.17nevcairielyeah supremus uses Hateful Strike, not Hurtful strike like Gruul or so
08:12.24RafFD resist = *cry*
08:12.24Aythshouldn't need any arcane resist
08:12.35durcynspeaking of which, is Heigan still broken?
08:12.53starlon_How's he broken?
08:13.18durcynlast i heard he was engaging during the four horsement encounter and teleporting people
08:13.22durcynhow cool is that!
08:13.25starlon_hah
08:13.34nevcairiellol
08:13.36sbAyth: well 50% full resist  (with ~80 AR) should make kalecgos encounter much easier!?
08:13.37mitch0orion: couldn't you cache the "select(2, IsInInstance()) == 'pvp'" from an event handler (entering_instance, or whatnot)?
08:13.41starlon_sadly blizz will probably leave it
08:13.43[Ammo]guess you should kill him before the 4H :p
08:13.52starlon_yeah pretty much
08:13.54starlon_hehe
08:14.03mitch0orion: seems rather pointless to check that on every OnUpdate()
08:14.31durcynsb: it's already easy, the arcane damage doesn't kill people - portal splash does
08:14.43durcynpositioning is much more important than resist
08:14.44Aythno one should take portal splash really
08:14.57sbdurcyn: mh yep
08:15.22durcynsame with brut and felmyst tbh, there's no such thing as standing around in sunwell so far
08:15.31Aythwe passed out arcane pots for our first kill in case you were uptop with a lotta debuffs and unlucky with clicking the portal or whatever
08:15.36Roblibobhm, is there an alternative to tankalyze and tauntwarn?
08:15.37sbbut people (esp. healers :/) are too dumb to watch their HP :/ and die early... *sigh*
08:15.56AythFor brut you DO stand around for the most part lol
08:15.57basslingowatchin everyone elses
08:16.09basslingocept theirs
08:16.11basslingo:P
08:17.16AythIf there's a crazy amount of damage being taken on kalec the curse is probably out of control
08:17.26Silviu-[Ammo] is Violation giving accurate DMG and dps ? or still needs some work done, that`s all i want so i can ditch Recount who is chowing my cpu lol :)
08:17.27durcynAyth: eh, to a point.  but the positioning's exact, is what i meant.  none of this "oh, go wherever and stab or nuke" stuff
08:17.48AythWell yes, the positioning is exact
08:17.58[Ammo]Silviu-: it works fine
08:17.59[Ammo]for me
08:18.17RafAyth: I analyzed our stats and came to the conclusion that violet badge with AR helps alot on the arcane volleys
08:18.20sbbasslingo: yep, exactly :/
08:18.33sband so we have like 2 healers down after 2 portals
08:18.34Silviu-[Ammo] okay thx, than tonight i`ll try it :) ( Recount last night after a raid at Brutalus made my fps ~ 15 lol from 40
08:18.48charonAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/85064 ... not that it actually matters, but it's still a wrong comment ;)
08:18.49sbwhich makes it kinda impossible to pass 4/5 portals
08:18.52Silviu-And all screen was going like 1 fps/s
08:19.20Rafresisting 1 volley means you don't get an extra debuff and the next volley wont be stronger in effect. So you get a double effect
08:19.22CIA-903darkwings * r68013 10BigWigs_KalecgosPortals/BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.lua:
08:19.22CIA-9BigWigs_KalecgosPortals:
08:19.23CIA-9<PROTECTED>
08:19.29AythDunno, the volleys are not much damage unless your debuff is high... and if your debuff is high you're doing something wrong =p
08:20.07sbno Ayth, it is very high on first tank switch (portal 4/5)
08:20.15sbits like 10+ debuffs
08:20.18Aythya but that's not many people
08:20.36sbenough if your tank dies :)
08:20.49durcynimproved defensive stance.
08:20.52sbgoing to try with violet badge
08:21.01sbnext time we can find enough healers :/
08:21.10Ayththe problem with less dps is the enrage becomes hard to deal with
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08:22.56CIA-903darkwings * r68014 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua:
08:22.56CIA-9BigWigs:
08:22.56CIA-9<PROTECTED>
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08:23.27sbenough healers = 8 :/ bad signups these days... only 5-7, dont know what they are doing, and its pretty hard to find new, equipped, skilled healers
08:24.07AythI think we used 9 healers learning kalec
08:24.21AythBut 8 is doable... less is... hard =p
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08:25.38sbyup :)
08:27.47OrionshockCreateFrame("Frame") or CreateFrame("frame") ?
08:28.09nevcairielF
08:28.11Snago"Frame" iirc
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08:29.52KalrothWe used 10 healers for first kill, killed him again with 9 healers
08:30.11KalrothAnd that was tight enough for my liking ;)
08:31.38Orionshockthere are 80 people in a AV match as returned by GetBattleFieldScore(i), not 50
08:31.42Orionshock*40
08:32.25mitch0orion: AV is 40v40 possibly?
08:34.09the-golemyeah, shounds right
08:34.39Orionshocktrying to make an addon wrt http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12534.msg198947#new
08:34.50Orionshockand i got only adding it to the tooltip left
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08:35.53basslingowould be cool
08:36.03[Ammo]Orionshock: call tooltip:Show() after adding the double lines
08:36.17[Ammo]check TooltipItemInfo on svn :)
08:36.26[Ammo]otherwise it'll cramp the text left and not resize the tooltip
08:38.11NeoTrondurcyn: it's pretty amazing really. My favorite was Alar
08:38.17NeoTronthe turbo meteor
08:39.04durcynyeah, we got him around 10% by stacking up all the birds from p1 that patch, was kind of fun ;)
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08:40.03mitch0Orionshock: one more idea: why not :Hide() your frame outside of BG and Show() it when entering. that was you could get rid of that pvp check from every OnUpdate()
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08:40.20NeoTronfor us the instance crashed
08:40.34NeoTronand we were stuck not being able to use our raiding mains for like an hour
08:40.54Orionshockmitch0: good idea, will do after i get the tooltip to work..
08:41.26mitch0could someone check if the current RangeDisplay (from files.wowace.com) works? I wanted to do a release from work but someone ninja-committed something :)
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08:41.41SnagoOrionshock: http://ace.pastey.net/85067
08:42.31Orionshockthx Snago
08:42.45Orionshocknext problem, why is UnitMouseoverUpdate not triggering for Unitframes?
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08:45.43NeoTronI did some hot firelock dps today
08:46.46NeoTronconsidering I had no flask of any sort, have a +shadow dmg enchant an was wearing the karazhan prince cloak, I did ok
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08:48.11CIA-903antiarc * r68015 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: Fix mob-specific threat wipes. Should hopefully address every outstanding boss mod threat wipe issue.
08:49.10Aythfire locks make me cry
08:49.11NeoTronAntiarc: like supremus and such?
08:49.21AntiarcCorrectamundo
08:49.21NeoTronAyth: me too but it was BT, had to try it :P
08:49.26AntiarcAlso Illidan P3->P4
08:49.40NeoTronany clue what would cause us to be completely missing on RoS?
08:49.55AntiarcNot yet. Working on that.
08:49.57NeoTronphase 2/3 (good news is the tanks showed up correctly)
08:50.06NeoTronand no healers cluttering
08:50.34baer_NeoTron: didn't get the whole discussion, what's up with RoS?
08:50.45NeoTronbaer_: omen issue
08:50.57NeoTronme and possibly others were not on the threat display at all
08:51.03NeoTronI was listed as having like 6 threat total
08:51.04baer_NeoTron: you are speaking about EoA, i guess?
08:51.18NeoTronReliquary of Souls. RoS :P
08:51.19[eu]gunder~seen Zeksie
08:51.22purlzeksie is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 1h 36m 47s) #wowace (2d 1h 36m 47s) #curseforge (2d 1h 36m 47s) #wowwiki (2d 1h 36m 47s). Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 9h 59m 50s, last said: 'bleh. charon left. tried that diff, it stops the init working. will poke it a bit'.
08:51.23NeoTronerr
08:51.26NeoTronessence of anger yes
08:51.30NeoTronbut the one prior too
08:51.32baer_(-:
08:51.34baer_ok.
08:51.45NeoTronI didn't look in phase 1 since there is no threat
08:51.51baer_had that encounter last night.
08:51.55NeoTronI almost died though since she/it refused to get off me
08:52.06baer_we stopped after we had tons of problems with omen2.
08:52.07NeoTrongot a bop when I had 350 health
08:52.26NeoTronI can see it bein harder when you're dps constrained
08:52.29Zeksiewhat!
08:52.33NeoTronI could afford not dpsing much
08:52.35NeoTronas much
08:52.53baer_what kinda class/position are you playing in your guild?
08:53.08[eu]gunderhi Zeksie, I have a pb with ZOMGBuffs, it is not loading properly but without giving an error
08:53.12NeoTronWarlock, council member, raid leader
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08:53.18NeoTronwebmaster, custom addon maker
08:53.23NeoTronso.. most stuff? :P
08:53.26NeoTronI track dkp too
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08:53.30CIA-903ammo * r68016 10Steroids/Steroids.lua: Steroids: slam that row spacing harder
08:53.42charonZeksie: sorry about that btw. i thought i had tested the patch but confusion from the several checkouts of omen+threat lying around meant i "tested" the then-current version
08:53.52baer_ok, warlock/dps would have been enough. :D
08:54.03NeoTronhow about..
08:54.07Zeksienp charon: i put a hack in for myself when i saw what it intended to do :)
08:54.09NeoTronwarlock/dps/tank? :0
08:54.09baer_yeah, then it's not really funny. :D
08:54.14[eu]gunderI see ZOMGSelfBuff and ZOMGLog but not the third item (don't remember the name) and self rebuff is broken
08:54.14NeoTronI'm the dedicated lock tank
08:54.23baer_i see.
08:54.31baer_luckily the omen stuff is beyond me.
08:54.33AntiarcIs there a way to change the key WoW used for the dropdown console?
08:54.34Zeksie[eu]gunder: got errors enabled?
08:54.35NeoTroncurrently limited to illidan
08:54.37AntiarcI use ~ for throw
08:54.44baer_playing healing priest now - shadow priest before.
08:54.46AntiarcWould like to use Ctrl-~ for the console
08:54.46[eu]gunderyes but bugsak is empty :(
08:55.08NeoTronsuspect console is pretty hard coded but who knows. It is primarily a "dev" thing after all
08:55.18[eu]gunderanything to narrow down the pb? (could it be a localization issue i'm on frFR client)
08:55.20NeoTronbeen a long time since I had that enabled :P
08:55.30NeoTronanyhow bedtime
08:56.11[eu]gunderZOMGBuffs doesn't use Babble right?
08:56.22[eu]gunderthe only error i've got is a babble one
08:56.23Zeksiebabble-class only
08:56.28nevcairielAntiarc: dropdown console ? o.O
08:56.28Zeksiei removed spell
08:56.45[eu]gunderok its babble-spell that errors
08:57.04Zeksieit doesn't even use babble-spell anymore.. got a up-to-date version?
08:57.20[eu]gunderi have the latest version: r67884
08:58.00Antiarcnevcairiel: Start WoW with a -console switch
08:58.08Antiarc~ pulls down a console you can enter console commands into
08:58.28[eu]gunderalso the zomgdelfbuff>Models is empty
08:58.33[eu]gunder*selfbuff
08:58.34Zeksiefor some reason there was a reference for it in the log thing. what's the actual error you get? can't load lib babble-spell?
08:58.34nevcairielwhy didnt i know of that?
08:59.01[eu]gunderno translation for "weapon" for babble, so i don't think it is related
08:59.48ZeksieModels?
09:00.06[eu]gunder"modèles" in frFR
09:00.19[eu]gunderI don't know the name in enUS
09:01.09Zeksieas a test: edit the ZOMGBuffs_Log\ZOMGBuffs_Log.lua, and remove the line that says Babble-Spell
09:01.16Zeksieand let me know if it helps
09:01.49[eu]gunderok
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09:02.03Orionshockthe onUpdate call, what the time format for "elapsed" ?
09:02.23Xinhuandouble, number of seconds
09:02.38Xinhuansince last call
09:02.56Orionshock...ok...
09:02.56RaffAyth; how many portal groups are you using? 4 or 5?
09:03.07Orionshockfor some reason my addon shot up to 1mb on load -.0
09:03.35Zeksiei'll try and commit that bit only. working on a large change atm, so gotta check it's not gonna f*** stuff up
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09:06.45CIA-903javek * r68017 10DKPmon_BossAuction/common/ (common_custom.lua constructor.lua):
09:06.45CIA-9DKPmon_BossAuction:
09:06.45CIA-9-Boss Death detection works again
09:07.09[eu]gunderI commented the line out, it didn't change a thing, the weird thing is that zomgbuffs detects barkskin and tiger's fury but not mark of the wild and thorns
09:07.24nevcairielAntiarc: that console doesnt seem to work for me =P
09:07.28Zeksiemotw/thorns are on raid buff module
09:07.30Industrial10:56 < Zeksie> babble-class only
09:07.30Industrial10:56 < nevcairiel> Antiarc: dropdown console ? o.O
09:07.32AntiarcYou're on linux, yes?
09:07.36Industrial10:56 < Zeksie> babble-class only
09:07.36Industrial10:56 < nevcairiel> Antiarc: dropdown console ? o.O
09:07.37Industrial10:56 < Zeksie> babble-class only
09:07.37Industrial10:56 < nevcairiel> Antiarc: dropdown console ? o.O
09:07.38Industrial10:56 < Zeksie> babble-class only
09:07.40AntiarcUhh.
09:07.40nevcairielAntiarc: no
09:07.41Industrial10:56 < nevcairiel> Antiarc: dropdown console ? o.O
09:07.43Industrial10:56 < Zeksie> babble-class only
09:07.45Ellipsisneeds less Industrial
09:07.46Industrial10:56 < nevcairiel> Antiarc: dropdown console ? o.O
09:07.47nevcairielforgets Industrial in the desert. awww
09:07.48Industrial10:56 < Zeksie> babble-class only
09:07.51Industrial10:56 < nevcairiel> Antiarc: dropdown console ? o.O
09:07.53Industrialer
09:07.56Industrialsorry
09:07.59Industrialwas cleaning my mouse hehe
09:08.00nevcairielIndustrial: you suck :P
09:08.02Ellipsis~lart Industrial
09:08.02purlputs Industrial into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of Industrial's hair of
09:08.08Ellipsisanyone else would've been banned after half that
09:08.09AntiarcDear Industrial: Suck less. Love, us.
09:08.50[eu]gundera yes that the name of the module i'm missing it is not loading
09:08.53Zeksie[eu]gunder: Mark of the Wild/thorns won't show in any menus. they will show on the tooltip that drops from the minimpa/fubar icon
09:09.11Zeksieoh actually. they will show in BuffTehRaid menu.. nm me. it's early
09:09.15Orionshocknevcairiel: Antiarc , iirc there was a UI form post saying that that dropdown console was taken out of the game quite a while back
09:09.16[eu]gunderwell i only use the fubar tooltip
09:09.24[eu]gundersorry I wasn't clear
09:09.28AntiarcOrionshock: I'm looking at it right now
09:09.41Zeksiedo you have ACP?
09:09.45Orionshocki guess idrc :\
09:09.45[eu]gunderyes
09:09.58Zeksiecheck to see if the ZOMGBuffTehRaid module is loading
09:10.23nevcairielAntiarc: maybe its because my german keyboard layout as ~ somewhere different combined with some special key combinnation ...
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09:10.44Arrowmasterive had the console open before too
09:10.55AntiarcIt should be the ` key, rather than ~
09:10.56AntiarcSorry
09:10.57AntiarcBacktick
09:11.20Arrowmasterlol everybody thinks of it as the ~ key
09:11.38Kalrothit's the key left of 1!
09:11.54Kalrothwhich is ? on my keyboard :(
09:12.00nevcairielits ^ on my keyboard
09:12.00SnagoKey left of 1 says § on my keyboard :P
09:12.03nevcairielbut i tried it
09:12.04tz8nevcairiel:   on yours
09:12.04Antiarc` is so diminutive
09:12.05thul~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <- the atlantic ocean
09:12.15[eu]gunderzomgbufftehraid doesn't appaer in acp
09:12.18durcynus pc104 or go home
09:12.28Kalroth~~~|\~~~~~~\o/~~~
09:12.39KalrothAw, detachable arm
09:12.42nevcairielthe thing is, i rebound all those keys to do real game things
09:12.49Zeksieok. loading all as modules i guess.
09:12.53GroktarGrave key.
09:13.01[eu]gunderI found zomgbufftehraid in the zomgbuffs addon is it normal?
09:13.09[eu]gunderaddon folder
09:13.11Zeksieyeah, it can run like htat
09:13.18Zeksiebetter for you the other way, but nm
09:13.32[eu]gunderok i'll put it as external
09:13.38Kalrothzomgbufftehraid? someone really made an addon with that name?
09:13.40durcynlet no one say your naming convention is boring, Zeksie.
09:13.57Groktari demand a badgermushroomsnake function
09:14.05Zeksietoo bad
09:14.07[eu]gunderquite usefull addon I must say
09:14.44Zeksietype: /dump ZOMGBuffTehRaid
09:14.48Zeksiedoes it spam you?
09:15.02Arrowmasteri wonder what -uptodate does
09:15.18[eu]gunderi'm reloading wow now, will keep you updated
09:16.00Zeksieok.. if you still having problems, try moving all the ZOMG folders from inside ZOMGBuffs to the main addons folder and restart WoW. could be an init problem if UnitClass("player") is not giving useful infp
09:16.03Zeksieinfo*
09:17.28[eu]gunderzeksie moving zomgbufftheraid made it work again
09:17.45Wobinzank god
09:17.47[eu]gunderit was the only one inside zomgbuffs
09:18.07Zeksiethe only one? then you did something naughty to the folder most likely ;)
09:18.18[eu]gunderI update without externals ^^
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09:18.36Zeksieace updater should either move them all, or none. not leave 1 alone.
09:18.44Zeksieif it moved some, it'd remove the defs from modules.xml so it won't load
09:18.50[eu]gunderwell JWU isn't working that well :p
09:19.00[eu]gunderthanks anyway
09:19.02Zeksienp
09:19.06[eu]gunderand sorry for the trouble
09:19.08Zeksiesokay
09:19.13Zeksiemeans it's not my fault
09:19.22[eu]gunder^^
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09:20.19Groktargives Zeksie a dozen cases of Zima
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09:21.20[eu]gunderthe thing is the adds in WAU makes it crash on my computer, and it seems now that JWU isn't really kosher :s
09:21.42[eu]gundergoodbye automated update
09:21.49CIA-903zeksie * r68018 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_Log/ (ZOMGBuffs_Log.lua ZOMGBuffs_Log.toc):
09:21.49CIA-9ZOMGBuffs:
09:21.49CIA-9- Removed reference to Babble-Spell in Log module.
09:22.04Zeksiewell... just keep an eye on it ;)
09:22.38Zeksienot as if it's missing first or last file in filelist.wau... it's in the middle of the list.
09:23.03Zeksieunless you had the folder or a file open when it tried to move it?
09:23.55durcyn[eu]gunder: why not just svn --ignore-externals co / up
09:24.51[eu]gunderwell I better not download from the svn, it is not designed for such loads
09:25.59durcyneh, the externals fetching is the brutal part, the rest not so much
09:26.28CIA-903krakhaan * r68019 10EnchantBot/ (14 files):
09:26.28CIA-9EnchantBot: initial commit
09:26.28CIA-9- EnchantBot will be your customers' best friend for in-game enchanting information.
09:26.30[eu]gunderok i'l give it a try ^^
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09:26.51CIA-903kurax * r68020 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: Update zhCN locale
09:27.24durcynwhat's WAU doing, though?
09:27.33durcynor not doing, in this case
09:27.38Zeksiedownloads pre-packed zip files and extracts those
09:27.44durcynyeah, thanks.
09:27.51durcyni meant why's it broken for him
09:27.59Zeksieit's not WAU that's broken, it's JWA
09:28.05ZeksieJWU*
09:28.09durcynoh, advertisements
09:28.14durcyncurious.
09:30.07[eu]gunderwell 5 sec after the ad is loaded WAU just hangs*
09:30.30[eu]gunderand in the middle of an update it is quite horrible
09:30.31Pheredhelhmm, why did someone include ads in the first place?
09:30.56[eu]gunderwell how do you think the servers are paid?
09:31.12KalrothWAU got ads?
09:31.32Arrowmasterdo you have any idea how much bandwidth wowace uses a month?
09:31.46nevcairielway too much o.O
09:31.49KalrothI'm guessing a few terabytes?
09:31.58AntiarcHey, awesome, my server hit P3
09:32.09nevcairielwe're at 90% now
09:32.13Kulaar-.- my crappy server hangs around 66%
09:32.13Arrowmasteryeah enough to run a small bank account dry without ad revenue
09:32.16Kulaar-.-
09:32.32SnagoZeksie: Just tested.. JWU unpacked ZOMGBuffs properly
09:32.42GrumAntiarc: p3 = pvp?
09:32.43KalrothArrowmaster: uh, my current webhost gives me over 10 TB a month for $200 a year
09:32.46Grumor already badge?
09:33.00AntiarcGrum: Phase 3 of the Shattered Sun stuff
09:33.03ArrowmasterKalroth: ...........
09:33.13Grumyeah but what does it give?
09:33.20Grumalready badge vendors etc?
09:33.21ArrowmasterKalroth: thats like extremely uncommon pricing
09:33.22Kulaar3rd house
09:33.30KalrothArrowmaster: No it isn't
09:33.44KalrothMy previous webhost had true unlimited traffic
09:33.50CIA-903krakhaan * r68021 10EnchantBot/ (. ChatThrottleLib.lua EnchantBot.toc):
09:33.50CIA-9EnchantBot:
09:33.50CIA-9- added ChatThrottleLib as extern
09:33.50CIA-9- updated toc for 2.4
09:33.51nevcairielKalroth: with a full 2GBit uplink pipe?
09:33.54Kalrothbut it had limited space
09:33.57Arrowmasterno webhost has unlimited
09:33.58ZeksieSnago: ok. he prolly just had some wierd glitch and it couldn't move all the folders for whatever reason. JWU should prolly report that kind of fail
09:34.03Kalrothnevcairiel: I'm guessing it got a little more actually :)
09:34.05CIA-903jayhawk * r68022 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt/ (FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt.toc SkillsPlusFuLt-readme.txt):
09:34.05CIA-9FuBar_SkillsPlusFuLt:
09:34.05CIA-9- updated TOC
09:34.12CIA-903krakhaan * r68023 10CraftBot/CraftBot.toc:
09:34.12CIA-9CraftBot:
09:34.12CIA-9- updated toc for 2.4
09:34.21GrumKalroth: url for your webhost?
09:34.27Kalrothit's dreamhost
09:34.40Grumwaits for url
09:34.49Kalrothwaits for intelligence
09:34.56Grum~fail kalahassi
09:34.57purlkalahassi: FAIL!
09:34.59Grummeh!!!!
09:35.03Xinhuanuh what's up with omen
09:35.08Kalrothis still not seing any intelligence :)
09:35.09Xinhuanzz
09:35.19Xinhuani've got 2 reports now that gathermate is fucking up
09:35.27KalrothTotal Bandwidth Provided: 10808 GB (monthly)
09:35.31Xinhuanand it seems related to gathermate_sharing + omen combination + acecomm3
09:35.41KalrothTotal Disk Space Provided: 549.9 GB
09:36.05nevcairiel10 TB ? we beat that per month :P
09:36.16Kalrothnevcairiel: Sure, I'm using the cheap account
09:36.28nevcairielfull dedicated box?
09:36.34[Ammo]nevcairiel: x2
09:36.36[Ammo]files and svn :p
09:36.38CIA-903krakhaan * r68024 10CraftBotFu/ (CraftBotFu.toc Localization.lua):
09:36.38CIA-9CraftBotFu:
09:36.38CIA-9- updated toc for 2.4
09:36.43KalrothNaw, shared box atm, I don't need a dedicated box
09:36.48KalrothI can easily upgrade though
09:38.06Kalrothoh, I was lying, it's $240 a year :)
09:38.41CIA-903krakhaan * r68025 10EnchantBotFu/ (. EnchantBotFu.lua EnchantBotFu.toc Localization.lua):
09:38.41CIA-9EnchantBotFu: initial commit
09:38.41CIA-9- Fubar plugin for EnchantBot
09:38.44nevcairieldreamhost doesnt even offer dedicated hosting, they redirect to another provider
09:38.46nevcairielo.O
09:39.10Kalrothmm, if you mean dedicated hardware, then no
09:39.16Kalroth(they don't)
09:39.58Kalrothbut they've got virtual machines with guaranteed cpu/memory allocation
09:39.59nevcairielall the stuff running on wowace needs a powerful box, it ran out of memory so often before, until it got really upgraded
09:40.33KalrothGuaranteed 2300 MHz of CPU time and 2300 MB ram
09:40.34Kalroth(Burstable to 2300 MHz / 2750 MB)
09:40.50nevcairieli think its a quad core with 4gb of ram now, or something
09:40.53Kalrothit's http://www.dreamhostps.com/
09:41.47nevcairiel230/month isnt that cheap now =)
09:41.52Orionshock~seen nymbia
09:41.53purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 23h 53m 36s ago, saying: 'night all'.
09:41.59Orionshock...
09:42.32Kalrothnevcairiel: well the original discussion was bandwidth, not cpu/memory :)
09:42.46nevcairielvery high traffic needs good hardware to go with it too
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09:44.27KalrothDepends on the traffic type, you don't need a ton of cpu/memory to serve static content
09:44.48Arrowmasteryeah you do at highspeeds
09:44.55Kalrothhows that?
09:45.12CIA-903krakhaan * r68026 10AMPFu/AMPFu.toc:
09:45.12CIA-9AMPFu:
09:45.12CIA-9- added toc for 2.4
09:45.12nevcairielthe files webserver uses _alot_ performance/memory on patch days
09:45.22KuraxI/O eats lots of CPU
09:46.00KuraxAnd for cache you need memory
09:46.01CIA-903scorpion * r68027 10GridLayoutPlus/Locale-zhTW.lua:
09:46.01CIA-9GridLayoutPlus:
09:46.01CIA-9- update zhTW
09:46.17KalrothI/O only eats lots of CPU if it's a crappy NIC :)
09:46.50KalrothWell duh, of course the non-dedicated solution gives you cpu/memory too :)
09:46.54CIA-903krakhaan * r68028 10EnchantBotFu/ (. EnchantBotFu.toc):
09:46.54CIA-9EnchantBotFu:
09:46.54CIA-9- added libs as externs
09:47.50XinhuanAntiarc
09:48.08Xinhuanseveral members in my raid are getting assertion failures on ThreatLib:ThreatUpdatedForUnit()
09:48.22Xinhuanon r68015
09:48.33Xinhuanwith no stack trace
09:49.12Xinhuanthey got a nil as the input
09:49.14CIA-903krakhaan * r68029 10AMP/AMP.toc:
09:49.14CIA-9AMP:
09:49.14CIA-9- added toc for 2.4
09:50.00KalrothKurax: As an example; when 2.4 PTR opened I uploaded this http://www.eu-warrior.com/2.4_from_pallish/ and got around 4 TB of traffic in ~1 week
09:52.05nevcairielyou should ask Kaelten for data on patch days
09:52.11CIA-903krakhaan * r68030 10AB/ (AB.toc Localization.lua):
09:52.11CIA-9AB:
09:52.11CIA-9- update toc note
09:52.22Arrowmasterthat reminds me i need to slap my friends webhost that im leaching......
09:52.24Arrowmaster2.6.9-023stab046.2-smp
09:52.48KalrothSure, I don't doubt wowace gets a fuckload of traffic. I'm just saying it doesn't have to be super expensive.
09:52.51CIA-903krakhaan * r68031 10ABFu/ABFu.toc:
09:52.51CIA-9ABFu:
09:52.51CIA-9- update toc note
09:52.56Arrowmasterand still no damn php5
09:53.10nevcairielXinhuan: whats the assertion say?
09:53.21[Ammo]assertion failed!
09:53.28Xinhuanif type(unit_id) ~= "string" then
09:53.28Xinhuanerror(("Assertion failed: type(%s --[[unit_id]]) == %q, trace: %s"):format(self:toliteral(unit_id), "string", debugstack()))
09:53.28Xinhuanend
09:53.30Xinhuanthat one
09:53.34Xinhuan%q is nil
09:53.43KuraxWell, all I wanna ask is, who's paying for Ace hosting?=p
09:53.53Xinhuanwait
09:53.55Xinhuani'll ask again
09:53.59nevcairielq cant be nil
09:54.01nevcairielq is "string"
09:54.14Arrowmasterkaelton but mostly all the advertising revenue
09:54.17Xinhuani'm going to get a proper paste
09:54.19nevcairielKurax: the ads and curse
09:54.29Xinhuanat least 5 ppl in the raid is getting the assertion fail
09:54.45KuraxKaelten working for curse right?
09:54.49nevcairielyes
09:55.12Lukianah. my lag was caused by Recount ><
09:55.27LukianAnyway to limit the amount of CPU recount uses - especially during aoe puls?
09:55.37Arrowmasterlimit what it tracks
09:55.45CIA-903krakhaan * r68032 10AFX/AFX.toc:
09:55.45CIA-9AFX:
09:55.45CIA-9- updated toc for 2.4
09:55.52Lukiansuggestions?
09:55.55Kalrothdisable it :p
09:56.14Arrowmasterwhos krakhaan?
09:56.18nevcairielXinhuan: only thing i can think of, some people using old versions
09:56.28Xinhuanyep not everyone's updated
09:56.33Xinhuanbut the error only occurs to some ppl
09:56.35Xinhuannot all ppl
09:56.35LukianKalroth, yeah that's how I figured it out :p
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09:58.54KuraxHmm, another full-of-globals addon, EnchantBot
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09:59.26Xinhuanso some ppl installed buggrabber and bugsack
09:59.30Xinhuanand the error isn't reoccuring
09:59.31XinhuanLOL
09:59.48Xinhuanwell at least it hasn't reoccured
09:59.50nevcairielXinhuan: ^-- should hopefully fix it (aka, ignore invalid data)
09:59.54nevcairieloh
09:59.56CIA-903nevcairiel * r68033 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: move check for incoming data to check the decoded GUID too
09:59.57nevcairielcia is too slow
09:59.59nevcairielthere
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10:01.03durcyni don't know who krakhaan is, but can i kill him, please.
10:01.09nevcairielwhy?
10:01.19durcynyes or no!
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10:01.49Arrowmasteri was only asking because it looked like he might have been bumping a lot of tocs but i checked fish and their all his addons
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10:02.53KuraxBumping TOCs is fun, can I have fun?
10:03.01durcynno, get back in your cage.
10:03.09EllipsisI've got a toc you can bump ;)
10:03.35Kuraxdurcyn you murderer
10:04.21KuraxThink about something other than killing people and back in your cell
10:04.51KuraxAnd
10:04.58KuraxEllipsis: <3
10:08.54Kurax~boring
10:08.54purlyes, you are kurax
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10:16.09Snagolol, owned by purl
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10:18.21the-golemlmao
10:20.39Orionshockwhat's the mental disability that is the fear of foreigners?
10:21.13Deloralahmmm
10:21.15Snagoxenophobia?
10:21.25nevcairielyeah xenophobia
10:21.40Deloralathreat throws me an assertion error, too..
10:21.46Deloralaupdaten an hour ago
10:21.54nevcairielpastey the error
10:21.55Deloralawhere to post error?
10:21.58Deloralamom
10:22.02nevcairielhttp://ace.pastey.net
10:22.09Orionshock^^
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10:24.01Deloralamaybe i'm dumb, there is no button to click to finish on that page^^?
10:24.15Deloralaah^^ dumb
10:24.16nevcairieli have a Paste button
10:24.21Deloralahttp://ace.pastey.net/85071-1hqx
10:25.05nevcairielyeah i think i fixed that to ignore invalid data
10:25.13nevcairielsomeone in your group needs to update though
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10:25.46Deloralai'll versioncheck^^
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10:26.42Deloralahmm
10:27.04Deloralaclicking on Versioncheck in config tab throws an error, then the right side is empty
10:27.29nevcairieloh?
10:27.41nevcairieloh doh
10:27.44nevcairiellet me fix that
10:27.48nevcairiel~lart Antiarc
10:27.48purlstrangles Antiarc with a 9-pole serial cable
10:28.15nevcairielAntiarc: local GetNumPartyMembers = _G.GetNumbPartyMembers ... :P
10:28.15kalahassinasty little purl! ;)
10:28.26CIA-903durcyn * r68034 10Antagonist/ (. Antagonist.toc embeds.xml): Antagonist: still need PaintChips since barcolors are passed as strings for the time being
10:28.32CIA-903nevcairiel * r68035 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatUtils.lua: Threat-2.0: fix typo
10:29.07Deloralahttp://ace.pastey.net/85073 <- thats what i get when clicking on Versioncheck (on the left side in config! not the versioncheck button)
10:29.17KuraxI wonder how many things does purl have to drop on people heads
10:29.33nevcairiel~lart Kurax
10:29.33purlwhips out a shotgun, trudges over to Kurax, and goes postal
10:29.43Kurax...
10:30.04KuraxI'm too lazy to type your name, nevcairiel
10:30.07nevcairielDelorala: yes fixed that too, thanks :)
10:30.13nevcairielKurax: auto-complete ftw
10:30.15nevcairielkur<tab>
10:30.22nevcairieleven appends the :
10:30.22nevcairiel:D
10:30.35KuraxAHHH
10:30.52Deloralathx nevcairiel
10:30.52KuraxWhy didnt you tell me before?
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10:33.16Deloralanevcairiel i just updated, got that error again
10:33.27nevcairielupdated from WAU?
10:33.42Deloralayes
10:33.44nevcairielit takes some time for changes to get distributed to the files page
10:33.49Deloralahttp://ace.pastey.net/85073
10:33.49nevcairielbe patient!
10:33.51Deloralaargs
10:33.57Deloralai got your fix
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10:34.18Kuraxlol LART = Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool
10:34.26Ellipsisfacepalms
10:34.30durcyn~bofh
10:34.31purlextra, extra, read all about it, bofh is Bastard Operator From Hell - see http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/
10:34.33Delorala[CIA-9] nevcairiel * r68035 Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatUtils.lua: Threat-2.0: fix typo <-- thats the fix or with GUID =
10:35.02nevcairielthats the fix
10:35.03Ellipsisyes, and that fix is not available through WAU yet
10:35.05nevcairielits not on files page
10:35.29nevcairielactually, the script is running right now
10:35.35nevcairieli think =P
10:35.38Delorala^^
10:35.39Ellipsisshouldn't be for 5mins or so
10:36.07nevcairieli tried to interpret the errors.txt, but it updates the trunk checkout like 20 times (why ever <.<)
10:39.31Antiarcnevcairiel: That was intentional. I wanted to know how many people in my party were bored to the point of being numb.
10:39.34Antiarc<_<
10:40.54KuraxTime to do a 3S
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10:45.30CIA-903onlyfly * r68036 10Routes/ (Locales/Locale-zhCN.lua Routes.toc): Routes: Update zhCN localizations
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11:19.30SaisI have an interim fix for FuBar_DPS (i.e. moving it over to use CombatLog)... What would be the correct procedure to go about getting it into the svn? Should I pass it by someone first, or just go ahead and get an svn account and commit it?
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11:21.31Sais(It's interim because it's using a proxy procedure to parse the CombatLog stuff and make it look like ParserLib's ouput so it can be passed to the existing handler function. I'd like to clean that up, but this is working so it would be nice to get it into the repository before I screw it up ;)
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11:24.35CIA-903phanx 07Ace3 * r68037 10OnScreenHealth/ (Core.lua Options.lua):
11:24.35CIA-9OnScreenHealth:
11:24.35CIA-9- general implementation of options (only player so far)
11:24.35CIA-9- cleanup of show/hide states (still some bugs to work out)
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11:42.27CIA-903ammo 07dev * r68039 10MiniMapster/MiniMapster.lua: MiniMapster: pretty options a bit and add /mm and /minimapster to open config panel
11:42.27CIA-903nevcairiel 07RC1 * r68038 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua:
11:42.27CIA-9Ace3 - AceHook-3.0
11:42.27CIA-9- ACE-162: fix unhooking of objects that were not actually hooked
11:42.50mikma[Ammo]: minimapster? :O
11:43.37[SW]Dodgeg'monring
11:43.42[SW]Dodgemorning*
11:43.55[Ammo]mikma: mapsters minimap brother ;)
11:44.15mikma[Ammo]: then i have to dig up the code
11:44.34ZhinjioG'morning.
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11:45.31mikma[Ammo]: ## Notes: Mapster's Minimap brother
11:45.40mikma[Ammo]: why not "little brother" :D
11:45.54[Ammo]because this is a better description
11:46.01mikmaor, make a weird note about MiniMe
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11:46.20mikma[Ammo]: "every world dominator needs a mini-me"
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11:51.23CIA-903rabbit * r68040 10AuraToChat/AuraToChat.lua: AuraToChat: Listen for SPELL_AURA_[STOLEN|DISPELLED] as well.
11:52.05ramoz[Ammo]: can MiniMapster do any special tricks like chinchilla cant?
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11:52.26ramozi like neat tricks, like the spinning chincilla in chincilla
11:52.44[Ammo]it doesn't do that kinda stuff
11:52.54ramozsadpanda
11:52.57durcynyou folk ask some goofy questions at these odd hours
11:54.25ramozits not odd hours here :O
11:54.31[Ammo]it's just past lunch here
11:54.45durcynwell, then, no excuses =P
11:54.52evl[Ammo]: UR MUM FÃœR LUNCH
11:55.32evlwhen running taintLog "2" I would presume almost all of it is stuff I can safely ignore?
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12:01.08Xinhuanammo: /mm's taken by some addons already i think
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12:01.24[Ammo]not any I use
12:01.50Ellipsisdoes magicmarker use it?
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12:02.33Stanzillayup
12:03.21SaisEllipsis: Were you around when I asked about putting something into svn? Would you know the answer? :)
12:04.24Ellipsiseh? o.O
12:04.35SaisI have an interim fix for FuBar_DPS (i.e. moving it over to use CombatLog)... What would be the correct procedure to go about getting it into the svn? Should I pass it by someone first, or just go ahead and get an svn account and commit it?
12:05.00Ellipsisis there any active maintainer?
12:05.35Sais## Author: Rophy
12:05.57Arrowmasterfrom how you described it, your fix is something everybody wants to avoid doing and instead actually fix addons not make stuff to fake parserlib
12:06.05SaisArrowmaster
12:06.07Saisoops
12:06.24SaisYeah - I realise that. I wanted to get that in so it's "working", then clean it up
12:06.43EllipsisI can only imagine that it would be even more of a pain to emulate parser than to fix it properly
12:07.05Arrowmastertry looking at statblocks_dps
12:07.08SaisI did it that way, as I wasn't sure whether the fix should actually go in ParserLib or directly into FuBar_DPS.
12:08.06SaisIt actually wasn't too difficult. All I'm doing is providing the things that the existing function needs
12:09.46SaisThe next step would be to merge those together, I guess. I still think what I have is a bit clunky, though. I just wanted to put a stake in the ground, and have something I could roll back to when I make a complete hash of it
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12:12.15Saisheh. The last meaningful change was r29438 | rophy | 2007-03-03
12:12.52KuraxHow to prevent combat logs from scrolling after zoned?
12:12.52ZhinjioG'morning Ellipsis
12:13.36Ellipsisy helo thar
12:14.30KuraxIt will scroll for like 5 mins after a loading....
12:15.24[Ammo]that is indeed the only real thing I hate about that log
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12:17.14ArrowmasterKurax: they fixed that already
12:17.25KuraxNot here :S
12:17.33ZhinjioPitbull's spark is not the same thing as Quartz's swing timer, right? Spark for a paladin will show 5 second rule?
12:17.35tz8define 'here'
12:17.37Arrowmasterugg
12:17.41Ellipsiscorrect Zhinjio
12:17.43KuraxChina
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12:17.56Ellipsisthe spark is 5 second rule for casters, energy ticker for rogues/kitties
12:17.58Zhinjiook, thats what I thought. I was wondering why they were so different.
12:18.01tz8damn that's far from my 'here'
12:18.19KuraxNeed wait for next week to fix it 'here'
12:18.22Zhinjioservers rebooting. blah
12:18.31StanzillaKurax: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5687510006&sid=1&pageNo=1 <
12:18.33what-Khi all i have a question gives a trick that parrot run at patch 2.4 ?
12:18.58ArrowmasterKurax: try /run Blizzard_CombatLog_QuickButtonFrame:UnregisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD")
12:19.01tz8check the forum, there's a parrot 1.0-2.4 thread
12:19.19Kuraxhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8486-CombatLogScrollFix.html I found this
12:19.34denaliIs Fubar_DPS working for anyone?
12:19.46tz8what-K: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12512.0
12:19.50evlhttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/
12:19.52evlI rofled
12:19.52Arrowmasterdenali: the year old addon? no
12:20.07denaliIs StatBlocks better?
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12:20.18Arrowmasterno clue
12:20.25KuraxArrowmaster: That works, ty =p
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12:22.54ZhinjioI love how on the wiki page describing "Good Syncing Practices" for SKG, the google ads comes with up "Sync Outlook from your PDA!"
12:23.21KalahaioHi~ just a little question...is there an addon like GroupCalendar ... to plan the raids? (groupcalendar still got some damn bugs...)
12:23.46EllipsisZhinjio: I got things done today. I blame you.
12:24.22CIA-903jncl * r68041 10/branches/Jncl/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Initial Import
12:25.00Zhinjiooh??
12:25.18Zhinjiowhy, cuz that function kicked you in the pants to do more?
12:25.23Ellipsistotally :)
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12:25.57Zhinjiowell, I'm pretty happy with anything involving your pants.
12:25.59ZhinjioAhem.
12:26.08Ellipsisblinks
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12:28.20ZhinjioHeh. I'm glad you got more stuff done.
12:29.41Arrowmasterrofl CooldownCount breaking everything yesterday even made it to the EJ Omen thread http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t12432-omen_-_ace_threat_meter/p90/
12:30.22Arrowmasterif i had a forum account or could remember it (i swear i made one at one point) i would post and tell them to use OmniCC
12:30.56Ellipsisbut omnicc isn't ace so it's slow and bad and they won't be able to update it
12:30.59Ellipsisduhhhhh
12:32.35CIA-903ammo * r68042 10oRA2/Participant/Participant.lua: oRA2: bugfix resurrection due to change in UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT
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12:33.56CIA-903lff0305 * r68043 10FuBar_LoginTimerFu/FuBar_LoginTimerFu.toc: FuBar_LoginTimerFu: Version 0.11, update to tbc 2.4
12:34.33nevcairieldid someone fix cooldowncount yet though?
12:35.18Ellipsisyeah
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12:39.22[Ammo]let me guess? some asian fucked it up?
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12:39.57Arrowmasteryes
12:40.02[Ammo]haha
12:40.03Arrowmasterthat asian being the maintainer of it
12:40.21[Ammo]should just delete that whole thing, and external OmniCC in :)
12:40.39[Ammo]bet people would go; ZOMG CooldownCount is now even more efficient!
12:40.44Arrowmasterrofl svn:external on truck
12:41.41kenlyricso, what was the issue?
12:41.46CIA-903jncl * r68044 10Skinner/UIElements1.lua: Skinner: BugFix for Capping issue
12:41.51Arrowmasterhshh is a moron
12:41.53kenlyricflees to the fish
12:41.59kenlyricright, but the specific one this time.
12:42.10Arrowmasterexactly?
12:42.20kenlyrici'll just look it up.
12:42.21Arrowmasterdidnt embed CBH-1.0
12:42.24kenlyricI'm trying to learn this stuff
12:42.48Ellipsishe thought that switching from SML to LSM-3.0 was just a matter of changing the lib name
12:43.04Arrowmasterwhich is why i did the revert instead of adding the external
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12:43.35kenlyric~cbh
12:43.41kenlyricworth a shot
12:43.43Arrowmastercallbackhandler
12:44.26Arrowmastereverybody keeps fucking bitching about callbackhandler not being included when they external LSM-3.0
12:44.29Arrowmasteryou know what
12:44.36Groktarpees on what-K
12:44.48ArrowmasterITS THE EXACT SAME FUCKING WAY THINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN!
12:44.51nevcairielpeople had to include other libs before too
12:45.04[Ammo]Arrowmaster: yeah but people suddenly turned into retard amoebe
12:45.26kenlyricshould such an ommission really assplode your entire install though?
12:45.30Arrowmasteri cant wait till curses new hosting stuff is up
12:45.47Arrowmasterthen we should close wowace and make it private
12:45.49[Ammo]I won't be using curses new drek, they can't even have the current site up and running
12:45.56Arrowmasterby private i mean commits
12:46.10kenlyricprivate to whom?
12:46.16kenlyricit's his mod :)
12:46.18Arrowmasterthe non morons
12:46.32nevcairielyeah move the masses over to curse
12:46.34Arrowmasteras in kickout all the morons and purge their crap addons
12:46.35nevcairieland we stick around :P
12:46.39kenlyricthen we wouldn't have the humor of alar
12:46.42[Ammo]indeed
12:47.44Arrowmasterturn wowace back into the small svn where everybody did code review on others addons and helped make them better
12:47.54Arrowmasterinstead of there being so many shit addons nobody has the time to even start
12:49.55Xinhuanwtb patch 2.3
12:50.09Xinhuanmy server's been crashing and lagging every 30 minutes since 2.4
12:50.22nevcairielnever had issues
12:50.33Xinhuanyesterday got 2 boss corpses full of loot and badges gone
12:50.47Xinhuantoday stuck in no instance servers available for 2 hours, yseterday 1.5 hours
12:51.59evlIf I have a container on my char full with items and a free bag slot in my bank, can I move the entire bag over?
12:52.15Xinhuanyes
12:52.17hasteyes
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12:55.54what-KGroktar hi ho
12:56.03what-Ksry i had to lunch :D
12:56.16Groktarhehe
12:56.29Groktari just typed that to the first person to say something
12:56.35Groktaronly i didn't realize i was scrolled up two hours
12:56.59what-Khehe :D
12:57.02what-Knp
12:57.59what-Kso now again gives a pay to run parrot
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12:58.35what-Ki mean way
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13:02.43CIA-903jjsheets * r68045 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Bar.lua IB_Button.lua): InfiniBar-2.0 - Fixed bug causing hidden buttons to still intercept mouse actions. Spacing for layout options can now be set to negative numbers.
13:03.24what-K[Ammo] i have made a mistake at the forum can u help me ?
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13:06.51v0dKai have type my username in the forum wrong so i delete it but now i cant make a new :(
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13:13.31ScoTTieAntiarc: ThreatTPS.lua:43: Invalid parameter #2 passed to UpdateTPS: exptected string, got nil
13:13.40ScoTTiewith the latest Threat-2.0 and Omen
13:13.53ScoTTieseems to be the only person in my raid getting it though
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13:15.26nevcairielScoTTie: can you post a full error to http://ace.pastey.net
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13:17.24ScoTTiehmm, thats all that was in the dialog
13:17.31ScoTTiewhat addon will give me a proper trace ?
13:17.42chexsumgoes to rip off some parrot code :x
13:18.01chexsumi need to handle silence
13:19.07dylanmScoTTie: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5995/
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13:21.10nevcairielScoTTie: looks like one person in your raid/group didnt update and runs a old version
13:22.30ScoTTieah
13:22.34ScoTTiequite possible
13:22.49ScoTTieit seems fine for a while
13:23.01ScoTTiethen when 5-6 people are on the target it comes up non-stop
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13:27.35durcynyou need to take the person running the outdated version and beat them mercilessly
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13:32.06nevcairielScoTTie: i added some more safeguards to stop the errors, still i suggest you go to the omen config and do a version check, all people marked as incompatible should really upgrade
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14:03.33Grumnevcairiel: stop the errors means: '<unknown *>' ? :)
14:03.47nevcairiel?
14:03.49nevcairielwut?
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14:04.16nevcairieli just ignore people with invalid data
14:04.27nevcairieland i added a tweak yesterday to hopefully fix the <unknown> display
14:04.52Vulcanusmens i say u, y i banz
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14:07.58nevcairielGrum: most of the errors reported these days come from out-of-date clients mixed in the threat pool ..
14:08.56Grumi hope the version thing works :)
14:09.05Grumi have to tell everyone to upgrade again hehehe
14:09.47Stanzillamy raid leader said he will put me on ignore when I spam that version check thing ever again :P
14:09.48Grumwith the new version, can you see outdated versions now? or will they show up as <unknown> ?
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14:10.57nevcairielyou alway could
14:12.06chiperI think he means will outdated versions still report threat
14:12.19nevcairielnot if incompatible :P
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14:13.03chiperso, how far back does the current build allow?
14:13.13nevcairiel67545
14:13.15chiperbecause that's sure to be an issue tonight :p
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14:13.26chiperhmm, that was last weekend, right?
14:13.47nevcairielmonday i think
14:13.53chiperk
14:14.18nevcairieloh wait
14:14.21nevcairielwednesday
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14:33.28AmadeoNo more rain!
14:33.30Amadeo:(
14:33.48Ellipsis~comfort Amadeo
14:33.49purlThere, there, Amadeo.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
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14:34.00Amadeodies
14:34.23quiescensburns the corpse.
14:34.49AmadeoI'm Undead now! Muhaha!
14:34.54AmadeoWotF!
14:35.12quiescenshow do we know you aren't one of the mindless undead?
14:35.52AmadeoI'm an undead zombie vegan
14:35.58AmadeoGraaaaaaainnnnnnnsssss.....
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14:37.16Pkekyo|http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/5/53/531/531566/lastebil960_1207306725.jpg
14:37.16Pkekyo|traffic safety ftw
14:37.30Amadeoblah, brb
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14:37.36KriLL3Pkekyo|: well it's not as if the police will stop him
14:37.51KriLL3they put on their sirens and he drops the car on em
14:37.55mikmaPkekyo|: those lines can handle 4000 kg btw
14:38.10Pkekyo|KriLL3: they did
14:38.36Pkekyo|mikma: completely irrelevant in every way
14:38.37KriLL3yeah you use lines like that to lower huge boats with cranes
14:39.00mikmaPkekyo|: ... is not actually
14:39.09[eu]gunderseeing the way the car is attached it is quite irrelevant
14:39.15Pkekyo|that line you can see in the picture actually fell off...so it being able to handle a load of 4000kg is completely irrelevant
14:39.24Pkekyo|indeed [eu]gunder
14:39.41mikmai saw it going in the car, not falling off
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14:40.10Amadeo!
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14:40.44Pkekyo|mikma: in the car? no, it never was in the car...the line (in that picture) was originally strapped across the roof to keep it secure down-/upwards
14:40.45[eu]gunderthrows Amadeo a salad
14:40.47Amadeohaha
14:41.19AmadeoSalad? I'm not a rabbit!
14:41.21Amadeothat's vhaarr
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14:41.46Pkekyo|geif salad!
14:41.49[eu]gunderAnd I thaught you were a zombie vegan
14:42.06[eu]gunderthe cable is caught in the windshield wiper
14:42.08Pkekyo|mikma: http://multimedia.api.no/www.indre.no/dynamic/01814/Billast002_1814607m.jpg
14:42.40Pkekyo|why would someone rob a gun shop? >.<
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14:42.55nevcairielto get guns?
14:43.02[eu]gundera future darwin award winner?
14:43.23Pkekyo|I'd rather rob a shop where there wasn't a 100% certainty that the clerk would have access to weaponry
14:43.34mikmaPkekyo|: hah.
14:43.42Pkekyo|shrugs
14:43.57[eu]gunderhttp://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1993-06.html
14:44.03mikmaPkekyo|: where are these pictures from=
14:44.22Pkekyo|mikma: norwegian newspapers
14:44.40Pkekyo|[eu]gunder: seen the -movie- Darwin Awards?
14:44.49[eu]gunderno
14:45.19Pkekyo|it's kinda interesting
14:45.47[eu]gunderI'm going to look it up ^^
14:46.36Pkekyo|it's not a great movie
14:46.36Pkekyo|but somewhat interesting...won't hurt you to see it once
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14:49.00Pkekyo|hai Ellipsis
14:49.39Groktardoes something dirty to your cat
14:49.58Ellipsisnibbles on Pkekyo|
14:50.00Groktardoes the inappriate thing that he did to the cat to you with the cat
14:50.49Pkekyo|is not food. ...and now you got me hungry >.<
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14:51.32Pkekyo|Ellipsis: wtb old-school dogtags
14:51.41Josh_BorkePkekyo|: too fucking bad
14:51.54EllipsisPkekyo|: ?
14:51.58Amadeorofl
14:52.29Pkekyo|borked my tooltip :p
14:52.38Ellipsispastey your tags and I'll fix 'em
14:52.46Grumno dont fix him
14:52.49Grumhe is liek leem!
14:53.05EllipsisI have to be nice to people
14:53.13Ellipsisif I do their dirty work for them, maybe they'll do mine for me :P
14:53.31mitch0ellipsis: grow up :P
14:53.31Pkekyo|^^
14:53.41Ellipsismitch0: nevar
14:53.43tz8Ellipsis: that never works, i know that from working in IS support for too many years...
14:54.04Pkekyo|growing up is overrated....feeling like an old fart doesn't help the situation at all :p
14:54.09Hotphoenixhmm clearfont2 is causing a 132 error crash when i exit wow
14:54.16EllipsisHotphoenix: set your font again
14:54.27Ellipsisthat happens if your font is set to one that doesn't exist
14:54.37AmadeoI wish the new combat log didn't have a huge gap at the top for that annoying menu
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14:55.07[SW]Dodgeclad|office: ping
14:55.09Hotphoenixthanks, could add a check in it to autoset to default if ones not found though
14:55.12Pkekyo|sodding hell...patchday >.<
14:55.12Pkekyo|Ellipsis: will pastey you later
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14:59.35Grum<Ellipsis> if I do their dirty work for them, maybe they'll do mine for me :P <-- i can do some dirtywork on you!!
15:00.13Stanzillacalls Grum's girlfriend...
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15:00.44Grumpicks up with a high voice
15:00.52mitch0ellilpsis: beware of grum. he believes trunk should be the production-ready branch :)
15:00.54mitch0runs home
15:00.55Groktarmolests Grum with the cat
15:01.04Grum~kill mitch0
15:01.05purlACTION shoots a excited fluxphoton gun at mitch0
15:01.26Xinhuanwho's bored
15:01.31nevcairielyou
15:01.34Xinhuanand interested in reading some guild drama
15:01.34mitch0absorbs the photons with his pocket-black-hole
15:01.39Groktari'm bored!
15:01.43AmadeoGroktar's bored
15:01.44nevcairielgot enough of that myself :P
15:01.47Mech0zI have had quite abit of problems with closetgnome and cartographer mining, glosetgnome fails whne I update my items, and cant reconnize the new items even if I update my set, and mining veins are never saved and is shown the same in all zones.
15:01.49Groktari only get to raid sundays and i'm going nuts
15:01.56Vulcanusgief drama
15:01.57AmadeoGet Planters(TM)
15:02.42Mech0zthe closetgnome problem can only be "fixed" by deleting my wtf files for it, but I have to do that each time I get a itemupdate
15:02.47Mech0zanyone have those problems?
15:03.14nevcairielMech0z: do you use vista by any chance?
15:03.23Mech0znope
15:03.25Mech0znot atm
15:03.35mitch0mechoz: don't get items that often :P
15:03.43nevcairielwell make sure CG and Carto can write to the files
15:04.04Mech0zI dont do readonly files if thats what you mean
15:04.16nevcairielmake sure anyway :P
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15:12.19Zeksieso.. is it ethical to dump my reagents localizations, and force a server query of item IDs via GameTooltip:SetHyperlink() to get the locale item names..
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15:16.37PolarinaZeksie: GetItemInfo()
15:16.46Zeksieif the cache is empty, that returns nil
15:16.52Zeksiethat's what i'm trying to get around
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15:17.18Zeksiecan do without a dozen complaints every time there's a patch that their reagents didn't get bought
15:17.25PolarinaZeksie: Why do you want the names of items that aren't in your cache?
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15:17.59Zeksiethe mod will auto buy reagents for you. for spells. if it's the first time you've ever used one, it won't be in your cache till you visit vendor
15:18.02SnagoWhat if someone with your addon is first to log in after a patch? Won't they get disconnected because noone seen those items yet?
15:18.17Arrowmasterno
15:18.24Zeksiei doubt reagents are flagged like that
15:18.26Arrowmasteryou dont get disconnected anymore
15:18.39Arrowmasterand any item held on a vendor is always linkable
15:18.43PolarinaZeksie: Use item IDs. And check if the merchant has an item with a specific item ID (Item ID for some kind of a water, for example) and purchase it.
15:18.44Snagooh, nice :)
15:19.14ZeksieGetMerchantItemInfo does not give item id
15:19.58Arrowmasterit should give link
15:19.58Arrowmasterright?
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15:19.58Zeksiename, icon, stack size etc
15:19.58Zeksieno link
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15:19.58PolarinaZeksie: Wait a moment please.
15:20.41PolarinaZeksie: GetMerchantItemLink(<slot>)
15:20.58PolarinaZeksie: The link has the item ID.
15:21.01Zeksiewonders of cursing his old blind eyes
15:21.38Zeksiethx btw :)
15:21.47PolarinaZeksie: You're welcome. :)
15:21.49Zeksiebut...
15:22.03ZeksieThis won't be any good for the menu, before they visit the vendor
15:22.21Grumis there any addon that lets you time affliction lock timers nicely?
15:22.45PolarinaZeksie: What information does the menu provide?
15:22.53Zeksiejust item names
15:22.59Zeksieand you tell it how many to buy
15:22.59PolarinaZeksie: Not icons?
15:23.11Zeksienot atm
15:23.19Slaymanppl love icons
15:23.26Zeksiei know icons are always available
15:23.32PolarinaZeksie: Moment please.
15:23.46Zeksiebut a newbie druid with a newbie rebirth spell won't know what one seed looks like from another.
15:24.07Slaymanicon+name => voila
15:24.46SlaymanZeksie: you might a well ignore my comments, as I have no Idea what your addon is about
15:24.52Zeksie:)
15:25.02Slaymanfrom reading it appears to be FreeRefill
15:25.27Zeksiebut... back to my initial question. is thre conceivably anything really wrong with forcing a collect of item info for the names by pumping out 4 or 5 tooltip:SetHyperlinks
15:26.11PolarinaZeksie: Just have the addon ask for the user to feed it a item link to add a entry to the list for the item. The item links includes the item ID and the name. :)
15:26.38Zeksienah. that's ugly. i already know which classes need to buy which reagents. why should the user have to enter them all?
15:26.53PolarinaZeksie: Ah.. Give me two moments please. :)
15:26.57Zeksieheh
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15:29.51PolarinaZeksie: GetItemInfo(ID) is the only thing I find. If it's not in the cache, just use the English name. :)
15:30.17Zeksieyeah, that's what i wanted to avoid.. but it still doesn't answer the initial question :)
15:30.25doc^blagrid healthbars update too slow for me. why is that so?
15:31.02PolarinaZeksie: At least reagent purchasing won't break with each patch. ;)
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15:32.16Zeksiei doubt it'd break if i forced a query. you don't DC any more. I'm trying to think why i shouldn't do it and not coming up with anything
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15:33.40TNZeokay
15:33.42PolarinaZeksie: It should be safe, but it may cause problems with players using tons of "random" addons.
15:33.59TNZeA: 2.4.0.2 patch is broken and is causing BSoD
15:34.08TNZeB: My computer suddenly started to toss them
15:34.34Zeksiei'll comment out old stuff so if it causes any problems I can throw it back in
15:34.48PolarinaZeksie: Mostly because if lots of addons are sending addon messages, fetching item links, or anything that has to do with bandwidth, the server might kick the player out for too much "begging".
15:36.42Zeksieyeah. thought of that, i'll throttle the requests. 1 a sec or so if it can't GetItemInfo(). something like htat
15:37.15PolarinaZeksie: At least, I wouldn't do it. :)
15:38.41Zeksiewell, no. and I did have some reservations. but with the ability to get rid of Babble-Spell, it'd be nice to dump this reagents localization which is basically the same thign
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15:41.59PolarinaZeksie: I can't thing of anything. You can keep using Babble-Spell and use item IDs so people stop complaining. :)
15:42.31MassaimahAfternoon all
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15:46.11vithoswhat are some alternatives to lootzor?  i know there's a good one but i can't remember the name/google is failing me
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15:46.30kergothwhat's lootzor?
15:46.48vithoslootzor.com, you input stat values and it gives you gear rankings based on those numbers
15:47.00kergothah
15:47.10kergothi use wow-item.info web wise, and Pawn in game, myself
15:48.50rubikbah.. i thought they fixed the "game/pc hangs on exit due to sound engine bug" in 2.4.1?
15:49.10genetiki don't think they fixed anything in 2.4.1, really
15:49.11rubikmy pc just froze again on exit after not doing it for a few days
15:49.15vithoskergoth: thanks, that's not what i had in mind but i'm giving it a try
15:49.43vithosrubik: yeah they claimed they fixed it, but it still happens to me too
15:49.58kergothshrugs, never used lootzor
15:50.09rubikcool.. glad to hear it's not just me at least
15:50.58EvilJohn-my wow client hangs 50% of the time on exit, still
15:51.14Slaymanare the issues with that phantom threat in Omen resolved already or are ppl still getting false lists?
15:52.35Groktarcommits a lewd act with Slayman's cat
15:53.28[SW]Dodgeis there an svn tag like $Revision$ to keep the last revision in all files? like i changed test.lua and new revision is 1234 that all other files of my project contain 1234 too and not thier last rev?
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15:57.00Zeksienah. i had to put a thing at top of each main file to send the version to the mod proper, and it keeps the highest of all
15:58.54[SW]DodgeZeksie: what thing? :)
15:59.14Zeksieat top of each module i have z:CheckVersion("$Revision: 68049 $")
15:59.36ZeksieCheckVersion function in main module compares that with highest version it's seen
16:00.01Zeksieif higher, it bumps it's own version up to match
16:03.32Groktarhttp://www.xkcd.com/kite/kite_trick.jpg
16:03.41[SW]Dodgehm, dont know where to put the function :D
16:04.10Groktari so want to try that
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16:18.06PrimerIt seems that tinytip has taken over the default tooltip. I used to be able to move said tooltip with "move anything", except I can't move this one
16:18.29Primerand I can't access any sort of menu for tootip, and it generates a lua error
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16:20.22Primerguess it's too early for tech support
16:20.42dylanmYou have TinyTipOptions.
16:20.48dylanmRight? It's all updated?
16:20.52Primeryup
16:21.03dylanmAnd that doesn't work?
16:21.10Primererr, seems I don't
16:21.11Primercrap
16:21.23KriLL3tragic how nearly all addons I used a couple of months ago have gone belly up during my absence from wow
16:22.04Primersuch as?
16:22.09kergothprobably just need to update, most things still work just fine
16:22.17kergothonly the combat log addons shouldve broken
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16:24.46KriLL3Primer: Eloquence, TipBuddy, RogueSpam, BloodyScreen, ClassIcons, HitsMode, ICU, + a billion TitanBar addons
16:25.08Primerok, now that I have tinytipoptions...I still can't move the default tooltip to where I want it
16:25.13KriLL3kergoth: the developers just drop the addons dead by the roadside when they get bored with updating them
16:25.17PrimerI only have bottom, left, right, etc...
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16:25.25kergothtipbuddy? you used that a couple weeks ago? the last time i saw that working was like 2 years ago
16:25.31KriLL3months
16:25.35kergothyou'll want tiptac or tinytip
16:25.39durcynthose aren't months ago, those are a year and a half.
16:25.42kergothtipbuddy hasnt been well maintained in a long, long time
16:25.54KriLL3kergoth: which would you suggest?
16:26.00Arrowmastersame with HitsMode
16:26.01kergothwhat i just said?
16:26.08KriLL3kergoth: which of the 2
16:26.25Primerwith the "Move anything!" addon, I was able to move the default tooltip anywhere I wanted it to be
16:26.28kergothi use tinytip, personally, but either will work
16:26.58kergothyou wont need a hitsmode replacement, the default combat log can get damn close to that by itself
16:27.04Primerbut since tinytip took it over, the only options I have are those it provides
16:27.09massaimahAnyone know if dropping my libs in a say addons/libs/<library folders> allows them to work. Starting to have loads of them and the overview gets kind of messy.
16:27.25KriLL3kergoth: the default one is horrible imo
16:27.52KriLL3and each time you change a chat setting the entire combat log gets scrolled through... yay...
16:28.46KriLL3is there a setting/addon to kill the red text top middle for "out of range" etc?
16:28.59KriLL3RogueSpam was updated last 2006...
16:29.00Arrowmastererrormonster
16:29.32KriLL3is that an ace addon?
16:30.34kergothKriLL3: http://kergoth.com/images/wowui-testing-20080403-2.jpg see the lower right.. that's horrible?
16:30.36kergothlooks fine to me
16:30.37Industrialdoes it matter?
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16:31.13Arrowmasterits on wowace
16:31.24KriLL3the [] stuff is annoying, and so is the inclusion of tradeskill and gathering stuff
16:31.37kergothso turn off the []
16:31.43kergothand the tradeskill stuff can be turned off in the settings
16:31.51kergothjust be less lazy and set it up the way you want it
16:31.59durcyntradeskills are actually bugged in the self filter, fwiw
16:32.03KriLL3kergoth: it's not that intuitive
16:32.14QuantumDeltaHmm...
16:32.16KriLL3what durcyn said
16:32.24KriLL3you do *stuff* triggers the self filter
16:32.25Fisker-drops a large Industrial over kergoth
16:32.29QuantumDeltaAnyone got a handle on a good cooldowns addon?
16:32.54QuantumDeltaHourglass is a bit blah for customisation :<
16:33.10KriLL3QuantumDelta: Quartz?
16:33.22Arrowmasterquartz doesnt do anything like that
16:33.25durcynQuantumDelta: check out Mist's branch, it doesn't suck.
16:33.35erzycoolDown QD
16:33.50kergothdurcyn: the tradeskill stuff isnt part of the combat log, its under other in the chat frame settings
16:34.07kergothisnt it? hmm
16:34.16Arrowmasterit is, but its bugged
16:34.33KriLL3hmm, is it CooldownTimers2 I'm thinking of?
16:34.34nevcairielany german T6 resto druid looking for a raiding guild by any chance ? :P
16:34.40kergothit shows the spellcast, thats all i see
16:35.26Swimnurdnevcairiel, hell any US T6 resto druid looking for a guild?
16:35.37KriLL3kergoth: *me creates copper bar* x 3420234 :>
16:36.02Pkekyo|resto druids still exist? :/
16:36.07kergothKriLL3: as i said, that's not a combat log option, its a chat window setting
16:36.09Swimnurd<-
16:36.11kergothKriLL3: i have it off, personally
16:36.25KriLL3kergoth: it's not a chat window setting
16:36.29kergothyes, it iss
16:36.30Arrowmasteryes it is
16:36.32kergothright click on the tab
16:36.33Arrowmasterits bugged
16:36.34kergothclick other
16:36.36kergothclick tradeskills
16:36.40Arrowmasteryou need to check it then uncheck it
16:36.40kergothuse http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8559-ChatSettingsFixPatch2.4.html
16:36.44kergoththat way the window remembers it
16:36.52KriLL3oh, thanks
16:37.39KriLL3does the guys patching WoW want their jobs or why do they add bugs each patch?
16:38.04kergothall code has bugs, period. the larger the change, the greater the likelihood.  they just need better unit testing
16:38.13kergoththe combat log code was a large change.
16:38.18KriLL3true
16:38.38kergothArrowmaster: tek's addon fixes that, the need to check/uncheck thing
16:38.39Arrowmasterso was all the chat config stuff
16:38.40KriLL3I just wish it didn't break most chat related addons
16:38.42kergoth:)
16:38.46Arrowmasterkergoth: i know
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16:39.04QuantumDeltaThanks durcyn/erzy I'll check out both :)
16:39.04kergothsad that it didnt get fixed in the last bugfix patch though..
16:39.05Arrowmasteroh and
16:39.10Ordog~irc
16:39.11purl"Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents."
16:39.19erzyyw protpaladin 4 life
16:39.23Ordog~ask
16:39.24purlQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
16:39.27Arrowmasterkergoth: h4x http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85058
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16:41.01ckknight_bah
16:41.04ckknight_now there's two of me
16:41.10ckknight_and I can't shut the other one off
16:41.11kergothnice, you should release that little thing.. too bad you couldn't tell wow that Blizzard_CombatLog depends on your addon :)
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16:41.22kergothckknight_: can't use nickserv to boot it?
16:41.30ckknight_kergoth: it'll keep coming back on
16:41.31kergothor will it just reconnect?
16:41.32kergothah
16:41.41ckknight_I can't access the box with ssh
16:41.45Arrowmasterkergoth: well it currently taints
16:42.00ZhinjioG'morning, ckk
16:42.03KriLL3is there an addon like Eloquence still maintained?
16:42.05ckknightmorning, Zhinjio
16:42.07kergothah
16:42.21Zhinjioso not that y'all know or care (much), but my baby-to-be is a girl. Found out this morning.
16:42.43KriLL3Zhinjio: it's cheating to check beforehand
16:42.49rubikhehe.. grats
16:42.50KriLL3congratz btw
16:43.45Zhinjiothank you thank you.
16:44.00HjalteDoes Nether Protection work on the aura from RoS in p3?
16:44.38kergothZhinjio: grats
16:44.46durcynHjalte: nope
16:44.57KriLL3anyone know of an addon like Eloquence but still maintained? Eloquence was dropped by it's writer 8 months ago :<
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16:45.23KriLL3it's an addon that changes jargon and sms language like "wtb" to proper English, like "Want to buy" etc
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16:46.06Josh_Borkea prat module could do it :-D
16:47.19KriLL3would be cool if someone took the quite literally huge library of conversions he built from near wow's lanuch to 8 months ago and put it into a new addon
16:47.29KriLL3though you'd need his permission ofc
16:47.34Zhinjiokergoth: thanks very much.
16:47.37Zhinjioexciting stuff.
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16:47.44KriLL3and he's dropped from the face of the earth it seems :>
16:47.46KriLL3*:<
16:48.31rubikyou're looking for an addon that expands "wtb" to "want to buy" but you use "ofc" for "of course" yourself? o_O
16:48.47KriLL3rubik: it filters your own text if you so choose
16:49.41rubikoh.. i thought abbreviations annoyed you and you wanted them expanded and then saw you using one yourself so it was funny, that's all.. :P
16:49.45KriLL3you can write a string of acronyms and jargon and the result will be a string of proper English
16:49.57shieldbKriLL3: I'd want the same addon, only instead it adds those people to my ignore list for certain abbreviations / etc ;)
16:50.04KriLL3=P
16:50.16MassaimahAnyone know of a tankpoints like addon that will allow me to improve gear for other classes?
16:50.27rubikhah.. yeah.. like, anyone using "u" for "you" should got on ignore list automagically
16:50.36KriLL34 instead of for etc
16:50.55shieldbI know I ignore anyone linking legendaries / abilities in trade chat, or having retarded conversations
16:51.01shieldb<3 IgnoreMore
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16:53.09MegalonMassaimah: Pawn
16:54.11MassaimahThanks
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16:56.45ckknightpastamancer: ping
16:56.47Arrowmasterkicks CIA-9
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16:59.33RaydenUniwhen did omen2 come out?
17:00.08Josh_Borke2.4
17:00.12Josh_Borkeit's fubared
17:00.16Josh_Borkethe developer is awful
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17:01.26Delorala=))
17:03.10NeoTronI think the Omen2 developer is a mole planted by SOE to ruin World of Warcraft
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17:03.25NeoTronOmen1 was the bait, Omen2 the switch
17:03.25FroMasterAnyone still maintaning FuBar_HonorFu?
17:04.51QuantumDeltao_O NeoTron
17:05.34pastamancerckknight: ?
17:06.02ckknightpastamancer: you still have that whole lua cons implementation hanging around?
17:06.11pastamancerckknight: yeah
17:06.17ckknightcan I see it?
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17:07.07pastamancerhttp://ace.pastey.net/85097
17:07.11pastamancerthat's the whole file
17:07.15FroMaster@ckknight: You still maintaining HonorFu?
17:07.23ckknightnot really
17:07.46NeoTronQuantumDelta: it's true! I promise
17:08.25NeoTronpastamancer: you trying to make lua into lisp?
17:08.51pastamancerI've also tried making lua into prolog
17:08.59pastamancerthat one's a bit scarier
17:08.59NeoTronyou're one sick person!
17:09.14NeoTronnext you'll make an implementation of lolcode!
17:09.29FroMaster@ckknight: thanks for the honesty :) Its got a display issue with Honor Caluclation. 1. Its not clearing the honor gains for the day - it currently shows in Fubar all the honor I got since the patch, 2. It adds my total honor + the honor since the patch as my Total Honor.
17:09.36CIA-903cossy * r68053 10Cartographer_Fishing/ (. embeds.xml):
17:09.36CIA-9Cartographer_Fishing:
17:09.36CIA-9- external fixed and logtemplate added
17:09.43pastamancerNeoTron: http://ace.pastey.net/85098
17:09.56FroMaster@ckknight: If you get around to fixing it, Awesome. If not, no biggie.
17:09.59durcynpastamancer: alright, now give me a perl interpreter in lua
17:10.20kenlyricbattlegroudfu, arenafu, pvpfu, there are a bunch others
17:10.29NeoTronwhen people are talking about avoidance set for Brutallus, what kind of avoidance does a warrior typically want to get to?
17:10.33pastamancerbest I can do is a lua sv parser in perl
17:10.36NeoTronpastamancer: badabom
17:10.41QuantumDeltadurcyn: ping
17:10.52NeoTronQuantumDelta: why ping when he said something 5 lines ago? :P
17:11.03durcynno, i magically went afk in the past 30 seconds.
17:11.05durcyndon't tell him.
17:11.09QuantumDeltahaha
17:11.14QuantumDeltauhh
17:11.20QuantumDeltaCan't find mist's branch of hourglass :<
17:11.27QuantumDeltaseems it's really hourglass or bust though
17:11.31durcynhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Hourglass/Mist
17:11.48QuantumDeltadoh
17:11.50QuantumDeltathank you kindly
17:12.03NeoTronour tank is around 56-58% unbuffed with >16k health
17:12.08NeoTronnot sure how much buffs would increase it
17:12.23durcyn16's a bit low
17:12.36kergothwhat's that branch add to hourglass?
17:12.56durcynkergoth: item cooldowns, emphasis bars, etc
17:13.03NeoTronhis normal set is 16.8k and around 46% unbuffed
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17:13.55durcyni seem to recall combined mainhand/offhand swings hitting for well over 16k through stomp
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17:13.58kergothhuh, interesting
17:14.04NeoTron16k unbuffed
17:14.04kergothis using cooldownbuttons atm
17:14.12NeoTronor 16.x
17:14.12Ordogofftopic question: what could cause an embededed flash player to be a slowpoke and cpu hogger when running normally but beeing blistering fast when the preferences window is shown above it while the video is running in the background, but a little shaded?
17:14.34NeoTron16.2k with avoidance set
17:15.44QuantumDeltakergoth: I much prefer something with the old ABI or Hourglass progression bar for cooldown addons
17:15.50QuantumDeltaunfortunately most of them are pretty deaded
17:16.26durcyncdb's savedvariables alone make me cringe
17:16.31pastamancerdurcyn: http://ace.pastey.net/85100 be afraid
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17:16.34durcyncdt2's horrible with item cooldowns
17:16.44QuantumDeltahehe
17:16.48QuantumDeltacan imagine
17:17.02Primerheh, tinytiptoptions shows 2 "Frame Offset (X)" options
17:17.07Primerwith the same tooltip
17:17.07durcynand coolDown's use of whatever that IFrameManager junk is..
17:17.08Primerno Y
17:17.22Primerand it doesn't accept negative numbers
17:17.40durcynpastamancer: oh dear.
17:17.55Primererr, it does take negative numbers
17:17.59Primerbut it does nothing
17:17.59ramozXinhuan: what was the GM item you could link?
17:18.08Xinhuanforgot
17:18.21Xinhuan18584 i think
17:18.25durcynmartin thunder
17:18.31Xinhuanand 18583, 18585
17:19.01ramoz18584 is warglave
17:19.07ramozoh nvm
17:20.35Primeroh wow, the "smart" option is just that! smart!
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17:21.24Beherithi there
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17:21.53Beheritis there a way on a buff like "earthshield" to get the owner of this, the one that casted that on him?
17:21.58Beheritwith 2.4 cl
17:22.17NivFreaknot afaik
17:22.20NivFreaksame with PoM
17:22.24Beheritmhm damn
17:22.27NivFreakand lifebloom's bloom
17:22.43NivFreakand imp LotP etc
17:23.01Beheritok thanks
17:23.33evlAny really simple addon that shows my own DPS?
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17:24.08Cyn1http://onlyalad.net/stuff/man.mp3
17:24.17Cyn1lulz
17:29.51CamciANyone know what dog tag it is to show what kind of an NPC it is? such as general vendor and so? been looking on the tags but cant seem to find the right one..
17:31.56Brunersi think its Guild
17:33.32kergothyep, its guild
17:33.55Camcino its not guild
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17:33.58CamciOn guild it says "silvermoon city"
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17:34.47Slaymanguild is the affiliation isn't it?
17:34.48Bruners[(if Guild = Guild(unit = "player") then Guild:Angle:Green else (if IsPlayer then Guild:Angle:Green else Guild:Green end) end)]
17:35.16Brunersgives <guild name> on players and general vendor on npc's
17:35.24CamciI got this: [(if [IsPlayer or [IsEnemy and not IsPet]] then Guild:Angle:Green end)]
17:35.25Fisker-Xinhuan
17:35.32Fisker-18585 is a blue
17:35.33Fisker-:o
17:35.35CamciIll try yours Bruners
17:35.43Xinhuanwell try the ones before or after
17:35.44Xinhuandunno!
17:36.52chdstGenerally, the text like "General Vendor" or whatever is just arbitrary text placed in there by some dev, and shows up as their Guild.
17:37.02Fisker-the combined azzinoth is 18582
17:37.06NeoTronlearns about the meaning of various avoidance stats.
17:37.42NeoTronand the result is clearly dodge > defense > parry
17:37.48chdstWhat would be cool is something that was based on the new icons they put in, whether the target is a repair NPC, Merchant NPC, Flight NPC, etc...
17:37.53Fisker-bonks NeoTron in the head so he forgets
17:38.00Fisker-learning is madness
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17:39.09CamciBruners works great thanks
17:39.19NeoTronI need tanks to live on Brutallus :P
17:39.23NeoTronhe's getting a dodge set
17:39.28NeoTronthe warrior that is
17:41.17NeoTrona warrior that shall remain unnamed stated it's better to stack parry for threat reasons than dodge...
17:41.26NeoTronbecause if you parry, isn't your swing timer reset?
17:43.00Brunersthat would almost make parry a bad thing?
17:43.18NeoTronit would indeed
17:43.19Gnarfozif you parry, the attacker's swing timer resets.
17:43.23Gnarfozthat's why parry IS BAD
17:43.30NeoTronGnarfoz: for player vs mob
17:43.33Gnarfozindeed.
17:43.37NeoTronbut not for mob vs player ...
17:43.41Gnarfozwhut
17:43.45Gnarfozif a boss attacks me and I parry
17:43.50Gnarfozthe boss's swing timer resets
17:43.55NeoTronI{ know that
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17:43.59Gnarfozthat's all that counts :\
17:44.03NeoTronno
17:44.14NeoTronif the BOSS parries his swing timer is reset
17:44.17Gnarfozif your tank is wearing parry equipment, who will parry because of that?
17:44.19NeoTronif you parry you don't take damage
17:44.28Gnarfozwut
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17:44.37Gnarfozobviously, yes
17:44.44NeoTronyour parrying has no effect other than avoiding a hit
17:45.07NeoTron[if a boss attacks me and I parry the boss's swing timer resets] is thus invalid
17:45.14genetikwhoever parries an attack gets their swing timer reset
17:45.28CIA-903pericles * r68062 10MBB/MBB.lua:
17:45.28CIA-9MBB:
17:45.28CIA-9- added extra nil check
17:46.06Gnarfozright, but, if all that is the case, then why would wearing a parry set be bad for that unnamed warrior of yours?
17:46.09NivFreakNeoTron: huh?
17:46.34EvilJohn-until he doesn't parry and gets wasted because hsi health is so low
17:46.38genetikGnarfoz: parry is an expensive stat and there isn't much gear that has a lot of it
17:46.41NeoTrongenetik: hmm you might be correct
17:46.43NivFreakNeoTron: yes, parry resets a players swing timer
17:46.47genetikNeoTron: i know i'm correct ;)
17:46.49NeoTronthat would explain the cost of parry being higher
17:47.11NeoTronso it's both a good and a bad stat in that respect
17:47.21genetiknot really
17:47.22NivFreakit's a good stat in threat sensative fights
17:47.29genetikjust understand that you'll always have less parry than dodge
17:47.30NivFreakand a bad stat in mitigation/avoidance fights
17:47.30Arrowmasterand dodge increases the swing timer
17:47.56Gnarfoz<NeoTron> and the result is clearly dodge > defense > parry  <-- that boils this down to "dodge is cheaper in terms of itemization points spent on an item than defense which in turn is cheaper than parry"
17:48.11NeoTronGnarfoz: that I know
17:48.17CIA-903danielbarron * r68063 10RaidBuffStatus/ (Core.lua RaidBuffStatus.toc ReadMe.txt):
17:48.17CIA-9RaidBuffStatus:
17:48.17CIA-9- Added diplaying of group number next to the character name on group buffs.
17:48.18NeoTronparry is 3/4 the amount of avoidance
17:48.19NivFreakArrowmaster: is that really true?
17:48.25Arrowmasterperty sure
17:48.31NeoTronbut likely is so because it's also a threat increasing ability
17:48.32NivFreakI've never seen that asserted
17:48.39genetiknor have i
17:48.48Arrowmastertry it on a rogue getting attacked by a bunch of weak mobs and use evasion
17:48.56Arrowmasterthe time between attacks will go up a lot
17:50.31Pkekyo|what's 'the hairy banjo' a euphemism for?
17:51.09Hjalte~seen elsia
17:51.11purlelsia <i=elsiarow@p57A25221.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 9h 51m 18s ago, saying: 'morning'.
17:51.20NeoTronman my cellphone crashed again
17:51.22NeoTronlol
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17:56.03Hell-RazorNeoTron, my cell crashes at least twice a day
17:56.53NeoTronfun stuff
17:57.01Hell-Razorhunk of shit if you ask me
17:57.05NeoTronso what are people using for DKP tracking in 2.4?
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17:57.22Hell-Razori was trying to hack my razor the other day but for some reason i cant keep a constant signal
17:57.27NeoTronCT_RaidTracker, broken before, is completely broken now. NRT didn't even load due to some error I ddin't have time to debug
17:57.53AntiarcWas the CooldownCount problem fixed?
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17:58.45Brunerscan you link itemicons in chat now?
17:59.58GnarfozNeoTron: CT_RT works fine for us?
18:00.12genetikNeoTron: NRT works fine for me
18:00.46genetikdidn't have to do anything special
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18:01.25GnarfozNeoTron: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/5892/ < this one
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18:01.51Gnarfozactually, it seems to be hosted @ http://www.mldkp.net/ now
18:02.09NeoTronit doesn't log events correctly due to combat log changes
18:02.21NeoTrongenetik: it didn't load, lua error
18:02.34NeoTronI'm working on my own but need something that isn't retarded until then
18:02.45genetikhmm
18:03.12genetikdunno what to tell you.  i'm using the same SV file from pre-2.4 and everything
18:03.16Nandinigrr blizzard's crappy font rasterizer is crappy, but my attempt at implementing a different one is hampered by stupid texture scaling
18:03.35genetikNeoTron: you use externals?
18:04.18Nandinieven when my texture is mapped perfectly 1:1 to scaled or unscaled UI pixels, the texture has still undergone scaling at least twice before being drawn
18:04.34genetikcould be some kind of dependency problem in its externals or something
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18:05.38NeoTronhrm
18:05.48NeoTronbug grabber doesn't save bugs on logout? :-/
18:07.22NeoTronwell bug wasn't exactly hard
18:07.44NeoTronseems like for a reason there's an extra 'a' on a line. maybe I looked at the file and accidently modified it
18:08.01XinhuanNeoTron, its an option
18:08.03Xinhuandefault is off
18:08.22DashkalAntiarc: Is the interface for LibThreat-2 stable?  Or is it likely to be tweaked as you destroy the last of the bugs?
18:09.29Gnarfozyou mixed something up, there... he's destroying LibTHreat-2.0, not the bugs ;D
18:09.34Dashkallol
18:09.52DashkalI'm thinking of just making myself an IceHUD bar for threat tonight.
18:10.07Hjaltewoah, lots of errors from Threat-2.0 I think just now :\
18:10.12nevcairielDashkal: if something needs to be changed for a big bug, it will be .. but other then that, i think its pretty much stable
18:10.17Dashkalhotness
18:10.23nevcairielHjalte: pastey
18:10.26Beherithow should i check my class to enable addon only on shaman
18:10.38DashkalAntiarc and nevcairiel: Thank you for all the hard work on this.
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18:10.55nevcairielif select(2, UnitClass("player")) == "SHAMAN" then ....
18:10.59nevcairielBeherit: ^--
18:11.18Hjaltenevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/85106 that's the first one
18:11.44nevcairielHjalte: MyThreat is not threat, i bet its broken like hell
18:11.55Beheritnevcairiel cant i just "stop" the addon or is there a need to really make an if end on the whole code?
18:12.03Hjaltenevcairiel: No, other persons using Omen is also getting the errors
18:12.06NeoTronnevcairiel: it seems to have been working for me
18:12.29NeoTronmythreat that is
18:12.44nevcairielBeherit: you can just do |if select(2, UnitClass("player")) ~= "SHAMAN" then return end| on the first line, it'll stop executing the file if not a shaman
18:12.51Hjaltenevcairiel: I'll turn off mythreat and see if i get them :)
18:14.20Beheritthank you, and my last question :P i am checking for buffs. so is there a uniquename like "SHAMAN" on each buff? like on local buffName, buffRank, buffTexture, buffApplications = UnitBuff(arg1, counter)       so that buff name is "EARTH_SHIELD" ?
18:15.18nevcairielnot really
18:15.29nevcairielyou can use GetSpellInfo() to get the localized name
18:15.36nevcairieland then compare that to the buff
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18:16.19Beheritmhm i would need to take a look on 2.4 cl parsing with spellids
18:17.59Beheritbut can i do GetSpellInfo(EnglishSpellName) on an lets say German system to get the german name?
18:18.08Beheritor is EnglishSpellName unknown
18:18.20nevcairielno
18:18.28nevcairielyou need to lookup the id from like wowhead
18:18.28nevcairielor so
18:18.49Dashkalmeh, I hate reading libs to find API.  wtb javadoc for lua
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18:23.53ncd|Aileenhttp://rafb.net/p/S8t90493.html
18:23.55ncd|Aileenany suggestions?
18:24.31nevcairielncd|Aileen: i bet you cheated on us
18:24.35nevcairieloh wait
18:24.36nevcairielno
18:24.42nevcairielyou cannot embed AceDB-3.0
18:25.06ncd|Aileenmh, ok
18:25.10DashkalThreatLib question: To get the values for a threat bar I need current to be ThreadLib::getThreat(UnitGUID("player"), UnitGUID("target")) and max to be GetMaxThreatOnTarget(UnitGUID("target"))?
18:25.33nevcairielessentially you do |self.db = AceDB:New("MyAddonDB", defaults)|
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18:25.48nevcairielsee http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-3.0
18:26.01ncd|Aileenok, thank you :)
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18:26.44Hjaltenevcairiel: Other people in my raids are complaining about errors from Omen, but of course none of them uses bugsack, so I can't really link you any of their errors :\
18:26.58nevcairieltoo bad then
18:27.10nevcairieli just told everyone to install bugsack or stop complaining
18:28.16Hjaltenevcairiel: Having them update Omen before every raid is hard enough :\
18:28.39nevcairielstill, a bug report would be nice :P
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18:31.06LukianTooltipExchange\Modules\UI.lua:10: Cannot find a library instance of PeriodicTable-3.0.
18:31.19Lukian(only in the no-ext release)
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18:31.36Brunershmm "ACP: *** Unknown Addon <> Required **" but no errors
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18:39.17Hjaltenevcairiel: Bah. Omen was wrong on Bloodboil I think. I was at the same level as the lowest tank (tank 3) and got aggro when the first tank lost it?
18:40.09nevcairielpossible the reduce isnt factored in correctly
18:40.16nevcairieltalk to Antiarc about that
18:40.33Fisker-oh u haste
18:40.49hastewat
18:42.24HjalteAntiarc: I don't think Threat is correct on Bloodboil, unless I've misunderstood the fight and I was too high on threat. I was at or just below the level of our lowest threat tank (tank 3) when the first tank lost aggro and he went for me.
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18:48.07Lukianr68008 or newer, Hjalte?
18:50.56HjalteLukian: Almost everyone in the raid, and the three tanks, using r68050
18:51.38Lukianpassive threat reduction was "fixed" in the release I mentioned, perhaps your class (if it falls into that category) wasn't? :D
18:52.07HjalteLukian: Yeah, I remember seeing what I thought was a fix for something like Bloodboil, but it seems it still bugged. I wasn't the only one to overaggro.
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18:54.44DashkalAnybody know if harrm (author of Aperture) is still active?
18:55.02Cairenndoes anyone recall who MrUseful belongs to?
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18:55.18Dashkalhaarm*
18:57.17DashkalBetter question: Is there anyway to create a black panel  that gets rendered _behind_ the world frame?  I shrunk my viewport a bit and the new rendering code in 2.4 doesn't clear the empty space out (end up with a chunk of random data).  I put a panel over it but it still leaks through with some rendering effects.
18:57.18tz8hmmm... does ckknight have a documentation on how to use his libraries somewhere? in special LibBabbleBoss-3.0?
18:57.32ckknightcheck the wiki
18:57.37tz8thx
18:57.53Kaaosackknight has never documented anything in his life.
18:57.55tz8trying to figure out what the bug in InstanceLoot is
18:58.03ckknightwtf?
18:58.06ckknightI document tons of shit
18:58.21Kaaosasighs.
18:58.22tz8german client has english boss names
18:58.34tz8and therefore no loot is being displayed
18:58.38KaaosaI thought I had been hanging out here enough for you to know I'm full of crap :[
18:58.46tz8apart from bosses with same name, i.e. Murmur
18:59.04ckknighttz8: this is for your own addon?
19:00.20tz8nope, cartographer
19:00.34tz8trying to give more information for the jira ticket
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19:02.25Primerwow, tickets display on curse.com is totally broken
19:02.52Zerylhey all, i haven't found the ability in bartender, but is there an ace addon that will allow you to create bars, like the old discord used to do? (just got back to playing after a year, i'm behind)
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19:03.26LukianBT lets you show up to ~10 bars on the screen
19:03.29Fisker-i won the game haste
19:03.33Fisker-i killed some rogue of yours
19:03.33Fisker-:O
19:03.42hasteFisker-: I'm not online so I can't taunt :(
19:03.50hasteI bet it was legato or something tho'
19:03.52Fisker-do it!
19:03.54Fisker-yeah
19:04.02hasteI don't have access to WoW here :(
19:04.29Fisker-also owned a warlock
19:05.13tz8ckknight: can't find the documentation of LibBabble-Boss-3.9 in the wiki... /me probably being very blind
19:05.22Fisker-i don't get it
19:05.26tz8s/9/0/
19:05.34ckknighthttp://wowace.com/wiki/LibBabble-3.0
19:05.34Fisker-i keep killing low hp alliance with mobs and guards
19:05.41Fisker-and my guildies keep complaining about being ganked al ot
19:05.45Fisker-a lot*
19:05.55ckknightyea, just see how the other ones do it, I guess
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19:07.39CIA-903pericles * r68064 10InventoryOnPar/InventoryOnPar.lua:
19:07.39CIA-9InventoryOnPar:
19:07.39CIA-9- fix deprecated call
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19:12.35Zhinjiogood lord: http://lfnexus.com/fortheladieshowtotellifyouactlikeaslut.htm
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19:13.08Zhinjiofollowed by : http://lfnexus.com/computergeneratedslutphotodiamines.htm
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19:16.30NeoTronhmm
19:16.34NeoTronthis is a good idea
19:16.42NeoTronwould be nice to have a "latency check" in oRA
19:16.48NeoTronso you can see the ping times of everyone in the raid
19:17.21WyannaHey folks - I'm using a function in my mod that I got from lua-users.org that is declared like this:
19:17.22Wyannafunction strsplit(text, delimiter)
19:17.39Wyannais there any way to (or do I need to) declare it so it's local to my mod?
19:17.44Wyannalike can I do local function?
19:18.09nevcairiellocal function ...
19:18.11nevcairielbut
19:18.15nevcairielwowlua has strsplit already
19:18.25Wyannawould that be on wowwiki?
19:18.38nevcairielyes, actually
19:18.41Wyannaok
19:18.47Wyannawonder why I had a hard time finding it
19:18.48Wyannathanks
19:19.01nevcairielhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_strsplit
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19:19.17Wyannaif I have several lua files, is there a "friend" declarator for my mod?
19:19.21Cyn1seems omen is getting alot better
19:20.12Cyn1lastnight we didnt see many problems
19:20.12Trell_i'd agree with that
19:20.12Trell_we only had the odd problem last night too
19:20.12Trell_although I think that was down to people not updating, despite saying they had
19:20.12Cyn1is anti in school
19:20.14Zeksielua has no friends
19:20.53CIA-903Tristan * r68066 10EquivalencePoints/ (. extras/Gems.lua):
19:20.53CIA-9EquivalencePoints:
19:20.53CIA-9- New gems ripped from wowdb
19:20.54Zeksieput reference to them in a table/object and pull reference at top of other fil
19:20.57ckknightWyanna: what would that accomplish?
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19:25.45CIA-903shamino * r68067 10EnchantingSell/EnchantingSell-enUS.lua:
19:25.45CIA-9EnchantingSell:
19:25.45CIA-9- updated enchant shield - resistance materials. changed from primals to motes.
19:26.15Bruners!rating 1479
19:26.15Xinhuan1479 rating gives 339(5s), 298(3s) and 257(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
19:26.40Wyannahey nevcairiel - thanks so much for your help with that link.  :-)
19:27.21Primerwoa, wtf, wowwiki changed
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19:27.32Wyannackknight I was using it as a command line parser but th wowwiki article had a nice suggestion for something better
19:27.44nevcairielPrimer: it did ? still looks like before
19:27.50Wyannai.e. parsing via string.gmatch in a for loop
19:27.51Primerit's all white now
19:28.01Primerunless the css file didn't load
19:28.11Wyannayeah I see it changed too, Primer
19:28.25Primernot liking it...
19:28.29Wyannathe navigation is all different now too
19:28.29Primerchange it back!
19:28.33nevcairielstill looks like before
19:28.33nevcairielfor me
19:28.38Primerhard reload
19:28.46DashkalLog in
19:28.56PrimerI never had a login
19:29.01DashkalThe default skin changed, but it'll remember your settings
19:29.03nevcairieli am logged in and did a hard reload
19:29.16evlSnago: Any chance it would be possible to prioritize the different triggers in IHML? My Brutallus macro wont work because the Dead Scar macro overrides it
19:29.32nevcairieleven when loging out it doesnt change :D
19:31.16Dashkallog out and nuke any wowwiki cookies and see if that lets you share in the fugly
19:31.55Wyannaif I declare a function as local in mymod.lua, for example, can I access it in mymod2.lua if they are both in the same mod?  if not, is there any way I can do this to have a "libs" lua file for utility functions?  (lol)
19:32.27Wyannaand if I don't declare a function as local is it accessible via other mods?
19:32.34nevcairielyes
19:32.41nevcairielits global then, and everyone can access it
19:32.56Wyannaso that would be referred to as a bad thing
19:33.01erzydoes NECB work after 2.4?
19:33.03nevcairielkinda, yes
19:33.14nevcairielbut locals are "file local", not mod local
19:33.18Industrialfunctions.lua: myfunctions={} myfunctions.function_one = function () end addon.lua: myfunctions.function_one()
19:33.32nevcairielyeah tables is what people use
19:33.36nevcairielyou have on global
19:33.40nevcairieland thats all
19:34.07Wyannaok cool thanks for the tip(s)
19:34.36DashkalThe solution I'm using is to use a "private" entry in my mod's table that is nilled out when all addons are loaded.  Any other file in my addon nabs a copy before it gets nilled.  Won't stop a determined mod from poking in, but it does the job.
19:34.40Wyannajust getting my first mod ready for publishing and I wasn't sure if my current funkiness was mod related or just new patch funkiness but I think my mod is stepping on other mod's toes
19:35.04CIA-903Tristan * r68068 10Enhancer/libs/ (. cba.lua):
19:35.04CIA-9Enhancer:
19:35.04CIA-9- Adding LegoBlock
19:35.12Wyannahaha I'm hoping not to have to worry about securing my mod yet but I suppose it couldn't hurt to do it right from the start.
19:35.45Wyannathanks again for the tips all
19:35.50ArrowmasterDashkal: if you nil it out at the end of your last file then it shouldnt be possible for any other addons to get it unless they do some really tricky stuff
19:35.56DashkalIt clearly marks my intention so if I ever get a bug report involving another mod playing with that table I can say "I don't support that"
19:36.04DashkalArrowmaster: hmm, good idea
19:37.06vhaarranyone know if a TopScoreFu-type addon that works in 2.4?
19:37.51NeoTronArrowmaster: that's a nice solution
19:37.53Guardixhow do you make GetItemInfo look up for the item name of the itemlink argument? Atm i have something like "GetItemInfo(link) == items" where items is the table
19:38.01kergothsaw a critline 5 update, that probably works, but i've never really liked its interface
19:38.39Arrowmasterstop reminding me of things i need to do!
19:38.54Arrowmasteri told somebody i would update topscorefu a while back......
19:39.07Benumbedhow do you stop a mod from stealing your /print
19:39.23Wyannahow do you know which is your last file just so I can record that - would it be the bottom of the last one referenced in your toc?
19:39.58[eu]gunderyes you told me a week ago and since I keep seeing your commits for addons I know you are busy Arrowmaster
19:40.06DashkalMeh, one complain I have about Ace2/3 and Rock all is that they pollute the namespace of the main addon table.  Probably my java background speaking but I find mixins to be non-intuitive.
19:40.29Arrowmaster[eu]gunder: so i probably shouldnt mention that i just watched 8 anime eps right?
19:40.34MentalPowerDashkal: "main addon table"?
19:41.06[eu]gundergo find matches and gasoline
19:41.14MentalPowerBenumbed: you don't, pick a more unique slash command
19:41.14Arrowmasterlol
19:41.33DashkalMentalPower: The one you get from AceAddon and family
19:41.58MentalPowerDashkal: you don't mean the global table do you?
19:42.10Dashkal*shake* not _G
19:42.15Dashkalexample incomming
19:42.23NeoTronAfter beign frustrated by print being inconsistent - some version of it prints just a table reference while another dumps the table partially
19:42.27NeoTronI started using /dump instead
19:42.47Arrowmasterdo you have Ace3 standalone?
19:42.52NeoTronyes
19:42.54Arrowmasterthats why
19:43.02NeoTronso ace3 has a retarded print? :P
19:43.05Arrowmasterit sets /print with a shitty /print
19:43.08NeoTronthe one that's good comes from rock I think
19:43.16Arrowmasterright
19:43.20NeoTronhow about 1) fixing ace3, 2) taking it out
19:43.25NeoTronit's useless :)
19:43.27nevcairielits not
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19:43.35ckknightRock's one is pretty full-featured...
19:43.35DashkalmyDebug ftw :p
19:43.37NeoTroncompared to the ones that actually work it is
19:43.39nevcairielget a real development tool like DevTools
19:43.45ZeksieGuardix: GetItemInfo doesn't return a table, but a set of return vals. first is item name, and it'll only work if it's a valid link. "|Hitem99999|h|h" is the absolute minimum
19:43.45nevcairielif you want full dumps
19:43.48NeoTronrock's is perfect
19:43.50MentalPoweragrees with nevcairiel
19:43.54DashkalMentalPower: This one: aUF = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceHook-2.1", "AceDB-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0")
19:43.55vhaarrkergoth: thank you, critline seems to work
19:43.59vhaarrinterface stinks though
19:44.07Dashkalto use ag_UF as my example
19:44.15Arrowmasteryou cant even use devtools with any rock addons
19:44.15NeoTronckknight: /dump is rock too?
19:44.25ckknightNeoTron: unless you have DevTools, yes
19:44.34MentalPowerDashkal: err... eww...
19:44.37NeoTronok. well it's of great use to me so thanks for that
19:44.39Arrowmasterckknight: no you never made rock not overwrite /dump
19:44.46Arrowmasterckknight: it does it even with DevTools
19:44.56ckknightArrowmaster: srsly? I thought I added a check for that.
19:45.01ckknightgoes to check
19:45.02Arrowmasteronly in ace2
19:45.04DashkalYeah, I'm not at all fond of the mixin thing.  That table is supposed to represent my addon, but it isn't really "mine".  It belongs to the mixins I use
19:45.15NeoTronI think I'l make all important data structurs accessiable via MagicMarker so I don't have to make them non-local and then reload to print them out
19:45.24MentalPowerDashkal: you mean the aUF one?
19:45.34DashkalThat was just an example
19:45.45MentalPowerDashkal: in that case you could easily call AceAddOn for each one individually
19:45.57GuardixZeksie i think you misunderstood me, i wanted to make GetItemInfo to look up for an item name in a table i've made, that the first arguments returns (itemname)
19:46.02CIA-903Tristan * r68069 10Enhancer/libs/LegoBlock/ (. LegoBlock.lua):
19:46.02CIA-9Enhancer:
19:46.02CIA-9- Legoblock
19:46.04MentalPowerlocal aceEvent = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0")
19:46.07MentalPoweretc
19:46.14DashkalI could, but I'm still left with the base set from AceAddon itself
19:46.28MentalPowerlocal myAddOn = {}
19:46.34DashkalI'm thinking of redoing nexus to hide... exatly
19:46.38ZeksieGuardix: entirely depends on how you've set your table up. that's not really something GetItemInfo can 'do' for you. more a programatic issue
19:46.46kergothvhaarr: np, and agreed
19:46.50DashkalMake _G["Nexus"] a table of my own and completely hide all the stuff from Rock
19:46.57MentalPowerDashkal: I don't use Ace2, but for diff reasons
19:47.00kergothvhaarr: tempting to just make a little addon for it, its not like its that complex
19:47.12ZeksieGuardix: if you're keying the table by item name then it's not a problem
19:47.30DashkalThe stuff is useful, I just don't like having it all in my public API
19:47.30Zeksieif you don't care about localising. else go by itemid.
19:47.46kergothvhaarr: could even be lazy and just use libsink for output and have a slash command to view current... bet it wouldnt be many lines of code
19:47.47kergothhmm
19:47.58Zeksieif you're gonna store it in savedvars. use item ids too imo. smaller
19:48.06vhaarrkergoth: indeed
19:48.11DashkalCallbackHandler would be an exception, but then it was designed to merge into a public API for a mod
19:48.14GuardixZeksie: i have it like this "items = { "ItemName", "x" }; GetItemInfo(ItemLink) == items"
19:48.16vhaarrthink I'll try to hack up something later
19:48.18vhaarrunless you do it
19:48.47GuardixZeksie maybe select(1, GetItemInfo(ItemLink)) == items instead?
19:48.52nevcairielDashkal: not sure about Rock, but with Ace2/Ace3 you can easily use all libraries without embeding
19:49.01ArrowmasterGuardix: wah that doesnt make any sense?
19:49.04NeoTronAny reason Ace3 config requires string keys vs, say, integer keys?
19:49.22nevcairieldesign decision =P
19:49.34DashkalPretty sure rock will work too.  But even the stuff on the raw AceAddon object shouldn't be part of my public API.  The only stuff I want exposed to the rest of the UI is the stuff I specifically _want_ exposed.
19:49.37Zeksieif you're doing a comparison. == would strip off everything past the first return anyway. you can () it too to be sure. but I think you may want to re-think your table structure
19:50.04DashkalI'm probably just going to hide the addon object in a local and make Nexus be my own table that just has the API exposed.
19:50.07Guardixk
19:50.08NeoTronin MagicDKP I store with intID = {} and convert for config
19:50.26NeoTronin MM I use a tostring(integet) as key but I think I'll change it to the same method as MD
19:50.29nevcairielDashkal: LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon("Nexus"):DoEvilStuff()!
19:50.29Zeksieitems = {["ItemName"] = true}; and find with items[(GetItemInfo(link)]
19:50.34ArrowmasterDashkal: you could use proxy table magiks
19:50.44Guardixah
19:50.50Guardixlooks better :p
19:50.59Dashkalnevcairiel: Heh, I won't even bother trying to hide from someone _that_ determined.  I'm not trying to block it, I just don't want to expose it on my main export
19:51.02nevcairielDashkal: even if it doesnt really matter .... why would you want that?
19:51.05Zeksiemissing a ), but you get the idea
19:51.36DashkalIdeally I want for k, v in pairs(Nexus) to iterate only over functions related to the operation of Nexus.
19:51.38kergothneotron: pretty sure the key is used as the command for AceConfigCmd-3.0, not Name, sicne name coudl have spaces or whatever, the pretty visible version of it
19:51.46kergothneotron: so numbers would make for an ugly commandline
19:51.49kergothneotron: not sure though
19:51.59DashkalKeep it nice and simple for those who _do_ want to hook into it
19:52.25NeoTronkergoth: my graphical UI is useless as a command line UI
19:52.34NeoTronin fact I have two different structures
19:52.51NeoTronor reworded - I use integers anyway
19:52.52ArrowmasterDashkal: you realize a lot of those mixin functions are nessarry to be exposed if you want people to truely be able to hook into it
19:53.00nevcairielDashkal: yeah but why? do you think people run around breaking your addon? if someone wants to work with Nexus or hook into it, i bet they will find what they need anyway. You shouldnt spend so much time worrying about people possibly trying to hook your addon :p
19:53.00NeoTrononly difference is I have to convert them to strings
19:53.07kergothi didnt say you'd want to use hte commandline, just saying that may have been the motivation behind it
19:53.11DashkalArrowmaster: Any functions required to be exposed would be.
19:53.12kergothshrugs
19:53.14NeoTron"33433" uses more memory than 33433 I would presume
19:53.25ArrowmasterDashkal: any functions that the person wanted to hook
19:53.34Josh_BorkeNeoTron: yes
19:53.35GuardixZeksie: seems to work :D thx a lot
19:53.52DashkalIf I design the API right, nobody will ever need to hook a func on Nexus itself.  The plugin API I expose should let them do anything that needs to be done
19:54.48DashkalI'm not afraid of someone heading in and breaking the addon, I'm just trying to get the exposed API as small as possible to make it easier to use it correctly.
19:55.10Arrowmasterthen put the api on a wiki or something
19:55.11nevcairielno-one runs around pairs'ing your addon, they look at the code ;)
19:55.22DashkalExposed functions that really are internal make me cringe (:Print() for example)
19:55.35Arrowmaster*sigh*
19:55.43Arrowmasterwhat if i wanted to redirect all your printing?
19:55.55Arrowmasterhow could i do that without hooking or replacing your :Print()
19:56.12DashkalIf you really need to do that, LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon("Nexus").Print = myfunc
19:56.22SnagoI've often used the Print() of another addon for debugging another addon without it :P
19:56.51ZeksieGuardix: np :)
19:56.56ArrowmasterDashkal: so your setting up 2 tables now?
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19:57.09Zeksiekicks CIA
19:57.10DashkalThinking about it
19:57.20DashkalOne for exposed API, one for the addon itself
19:57.27GuardixZeksie: everything works, but i get an error thats says the usage is wrong 0.o
19:57.33Zeksieon ?
19:57.57Guardixsec
19:58.18ArrowmasterGuardix: GetItemInfo("name") only works for items in your inventory or equiped
19:58.20Josh_Borkewtf is Nexus?
19:58.25DashkalAn alternate would be to have a func like Nexus:GetApplicationAPI()
19:58.33Guardixye i know that
19:58.52Guardixoh
19:58.54DashkalJosh_Borke: I'm (slowly) writing a distributed forum to be run within wow.  Boils down to a distributed filesystem
19:59.00CIA-903zeksie * r68070 10ZOMGBuffs/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
19:59.00CIA-9ZOMGBuffs:
19:59.00CIA-9- Self buffs module will now always check own buffs first before other modules.
19:59.00CIA-9- Extra checks to make sure to never buy reagents from wrong level range (for druids and their seed collections).
19:59.23Guardixso that means if the item is written in my table, it will give an error because it cant find it in my inventory?
19:59.29DashkalIt's to be pretty general though.  First three "applications" would be a forum, a craft list, and a raid signup tool
19:59.38nevcairielditributed filesystem in wow eh? how do you manage the timestamp issue?
19:59.50Dashkaltimestamp issue?
19:59.57Josh_BorkeDashkal: have fun with that.  i have work done on a distributed wiki
20:00.15nevcairielfor syncing the distributed data you need a accurate timstamp, right?
20:00.16ArrowmasterDashkal: how do you figure out which data is newer
20:00.38DashkalAhh, I'll just trust the timestamp given.  Only the author of a post can update it, and all posts will be signed somehow to prevent tampering
20:01.08nevcairielall timestamps are client-timestamps .. that can easily de-sync when someone has a misconfigured time on his system
20:01.19DashkalI'll use server time
20:01.25Hobbywhat happened to wowwiki??
20:01.36Industrialmikma sat on it
20:01.36nevcairielyou can only get server time, not server date, though
20:01.37Arrowmasterserver time isnt as accurate
20:01.47Guardix"if link and select(3, GetItemInfo(link)) == 0 or items[(GetItemInfo(link))] then" followed by an usecontaineritem.. but does the 'or' make a conflict. Do i have to seperate 'select(3, GetItemInfo(link)..' and the "table-lookup'er"?
20:01.47Dashkalbleh, that's an issue then
20:01.56DashkalMight ignore times and use a rev count then
20:02.04Dashkalincrement on update
20:02.14Josh_BorkeDashkal: you only get hour and minute from server time
20:02.32Arrowmasteryou can do magic and get seconds
20:02.45nevcairieluser a+b are online and do some stuff, both log off, c+d log on, and change other stuff too, both increment revision i suppose, now what? :D
20:02.46Josh_Borkebut then you're extrapolating seconds based on local time
20:02.48HjalteOw, where's Elsia :( Recount is showing funny numbers and telling me that everyone using the same revision as me is incompatible
20:02.52Josh_Borkenevcairiel: can't happen
20:02.58Dashkaluser b cannot change a "file" posted by user a
20:03.03Josh_Borkenevcairiel: only users can modify their posts
20:03.10Dashkaluser b would post a second file
20:03.18Dashkaland the application layer would sort it out
20:03.52Dashkalthat's how forum moderation will work.  A moderator would post a second message that the forum code understands to mean "edit" or "delete" or whatever
20:04.08DashkalNexus itself would only see two messages
20:04.23Arrowmasteryou still have to do syncing
20:04.27DashkalYes
20:04.31DashkalNew rev replaced old rev
20:04.35Dashkalreplaces*
20:04.36Arrowmasterno
20:04.52Zeksiewhat if 2 ppl make a change to same thing
20:05.09DashkalZeksie: See above comment.  Two people may not edit the same thing.  Only the author
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20:05.38Zeksieoww.
20:06.02DashkalExternal editing can be simulated at a higher layer with control messages.
20:06.26NivFreakso is there any way to insert death events into the combat log while blizz takes thier sweet time fixing it?
20:06.28DashkalMeh, without server time I'm gonna have an interesting time dealing with making messages expire, though.
20:06.39nevcairielNivFreak: dont think so, sadly
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20:08.01NivFreakour freaking enh shaman has died at least 8 times every raid, but I need numbers to back it up
20:08.09NivFreakso I can chew him a new asshole
20:08.19nevcairielheh
20:08.25NivFreakhe hasn't lived to the end off a boss fight for the last 2 weeks
20:08.28NivFreakand it's all retarded shit
20:08.56nevcairielyou could use presence in WWS for the boss fights i suppose
20:09.06NeoTronthat isn't really accurate
20:09.29nevcairielwell anyone who manages to have a very low presence sucks =P
20:09.32nevcairielor died
20:10.06nevcairiellets hope that 2.4.2 fixes it, and that we get it next week
20:10.13NeoTronGuardix: you really want to cache that lookup: local itemName, _ , itemID = GetItemInfo(link)
20:10.43Guardixk, ill try it out :)
20:13.18VulcanusNivFreak, try screenshots :p
20:14.55NivFreakVulcanus: I'm tanking, so no time :)
20:15.21NivFreaknevcairiel: the problem with presence in WWS is, if they get a rez/anhk
20:15.24NivFreakthey show up as 100%
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20:16.24Dashkalcount the rez/ankhs and < 100%s?
20:16.27Gnarfozbleh
20:16.40GnarfozPSPad needs collapsible function functionality ;\
20:17.38GuardixNeoTron: something like this: http://guardix.pastey.net/85111 ?
20:19.35NeoTronif items[itemName] <-- without quotes
20:19.44NeoTronAlso I still strongly recommend just using item id's
20:19.50NeoTronsince item names are localized
20:21.06Guardixtrue
20:21.15Guardixeasier to read a name though :p
20:21.18Gnarfoz~seen hyperactivechipmunk
20:21.21purlGnarfoz: i haven't seen 'hyperactivechipmunk'
20:21.30Gnarfoz~seen hyperchipmunk
20:21.31purlhyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 110d 13h 3m 1s ago, saying: '~improbability'.
20:21.42NeoTrondepending on the purpose of the addon, easier to read is a smal bonus
20:21.45Gnarfozwut :\
20:21.48Gnarfoz~seen sedatedchipmunk
20:21.49purlsedatedchipmunk <n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 116d 19h 40m 10s ago, saying: '/msg hyperChipmunk <yourpassword>'.
20:21.56Arrowmastermuch clearer and better code from an id though
20:22.16NeoTronI meant "small bonus" as "bonus so small it's hardly worth it"
20:22.20NeoTronitemid is always better
20:22.26NeoTronif you think it's hard to read just do
20:22.35NeoTron[4626] = true  -- Some ITem
20:23.13Gnarfozckknight: GloryLib has "BattlefieldZoneObjectiveTimes" which contains "[ALTERAC_VALLEY] = 302.5," <-- do you know if this is the time used for "how long until AV objective X is captured"? because that time was reduced from 5 to 4 minutes in 2.3
20:23.15Guardixhm ye :)
20:23.58ckknightGnarfoz: hyperactiveChipmunk wrote that part
20:24.07Guardixbut i still get the usage error since the table gives the items[ItemName] a true return
20:24.22GnarfozI know :\ it even says -hC after the initial line... but ~seen says he's gone for 4 months now :\
20:24.34ckknightyea
20:24.38Guardixhas to use my inventory
20:25.00Arrowmasterthats 5 minutes
20:25.16NeoTronGuardix: what?
20:25.29Gnarfozwell, it's used in function Glory:GetTimeToCapture(node), so I guess it's exactly that ^^
20:25.59GuardixGetItemInfo only works with equiped and inventory items
20:26.06Arrowmasterno it doesnt
20:26.21Guardix:o
20:26.22kergothgetiteminfo is anything in your client's item cache, Guardix
20:26.32ArrowmasterGetItemInfo("name") only works with equiped and inventory items
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20:26.47Guardixok..
20:26.49Guardixhmm
20:26.55ArrowmasterGetItemInfo(itemid) works with anything in the cache
20:27.20NeoTronand to get it from the server you use a tooltip. beautiful design :P
20:28.01Guardixbut i cannot sell an item i dont have in my inventory and thats what it tries to do
20:28.07Ackiscia not sending svn commits to the channel?
20:28.18Guardixbecause items[ItemName] returns true
20:28.33kergothso what?
20:28.34ArrowmasterGuardix: your using this for selling?
20:28.40Guardixyes
20:28.41ArrowmasterGuardix: BAD BAD BAD
20:28.45Guardixheh
20:28.51Guardixitemid instead?
20:29.02Arrowmasteryou can have multiple items with the same name
20:29.09Arrowmasterthey have different itemids
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20:29.58Arrowmasterand GetItemInfo("name") will only give you the first one it finds
20:32.35NeoTronhe's using GetItemInfo(itemlink)
20:32.49NeoTronlocal link = GetContainerItemLink(bag, slot)  <-- that
20:33.10Arrowmasteroh thats fine
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20:33.29Guardixthis is what i have atm: http://guardix.pastey.net/85112
20:35.54Arrowmasterthat looks fine except you should make that table outside of the loop
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20:36.18NeoTronwhy ShowMerchantSellCursor?
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20:37.43Guardixdunno really, kinda useless :p
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20:38.55Gnarfozwell... great
20:39.01Guardixbut it doesnt go through, just gives me an error
20:39.06Guardix... usage error
20:39.18GnarfozI had my changelog set to last 2 weeks, so I couldn't see that GloryLib already has 4 minute timers for AV :\
20:39.18Guardixof GetItemInfo
20:39.55NeoTronso
20:39.58NeoTronlink == nil?
20:40.03NeoTronfor empty bag slots
20:40.09Guardixprobably
20:40.18Guardixill try to remove it
20:40.49Guardixno effect
20:41.09NeoTronbasically you need to change the if link part to before GetItemInfo
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20:42.42NeoTronlike that http://guardix.pastey.net/85114
20:43.54basslingoany mods out there that ONLY allow dismounts in flight if you have a hostle targeted?
20:44.10basslingo-.- i hate falling
20:44.13NeoTronselect(3, ...) vs local _, _, foo = ... <-- difference in performance?
20:44.33p3limno
20:44.36p3limjust cleaner code
20:44.53Zeksiethink the local is better if it's just a few args? i'm sure someone said that not long ago.
20:45.18Gnarfozis there any indication of how many times someone has been killed in a battleground? for the "50 deaths in the same bg = worth no more honor" thing?
20:45.24Zeksietest it over 100k iterations
20:45.55Polarinaprefers cleaner code over micro-optimizations.
20:45.56NeoTronso something like this would be fine too: http://guardix.pastey.net/85116-10fl
20:46.33Zeksieyou'd need () around the select
20:46.42Guardixselect(3, GetItemInfo(link)) doesnt that select the item rarity?
20:46.45PolarinaZeksie: Uh.. No...
20:46.46Josh_Borkelocal is faster
20:46.49Zeksieuhh yes
20:47.02Zeksieelse you get items[ret1, ret2, ret3, etc]
20:47.05Zeksiewhich is not valid
20:47.23PolarinaZeksie: Lua will only take the first argument...
20:47.34kergothpretty sure itll automatically .. yeah, that
20:47.35NivFreakisn't someone working on bartender4?
20:47.42Zeksiei'm sure i had that exact error only yesterday ><
20:47.43kergothin that context
20:47.59NeoTronGuardix: I assume since it was itemname, _, id that 3 == item id
20:48.06NeoTronI didn't look at the api
20:48.20Guardixsure
20:48.21Zeksieur prolly right thinking about it.
20:48.27Guardixhmm prolly thats the problem :p
20:48.39PolarinaZeksie: I don't get a error when I try it here.
20:48.48Zeksiefair enough
20:48.54Polarina:)
20:49.00kergothlua> local t = {foo = true} local f = function() return "foo", 2, 3 end print(t[f()])
20:49.01lua_botkergoth: true
20:49.02Zeksie1 sec. cos i'm sure i had an error doing something like that.
20:49.07kergothpoints up
20:49.07NeoTronand yes 3 = rarity
20:49.54NeoTronin fact it doesn't return the item id
20:50.24Zeksieyeah. nm me.. too old to argue ;)
20:51.28kergothhard to argue with a code snippet showing it
20:51.35Guardixcheers it works now :D
20:51.38Gnarfozbleh, GloryLib and FuBar_HonorFu confuse me :\ I just want to take out the parts responsible for the obsolete honor calculations :\
20:51.38Guardixno errors
20:51.51Guardixthx a lot everybody :)
20:52.37NeoTronwhat did you change? use the name?
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20:54.49Guardixsec ill pastey the final code
20:55.10NivFreaknevcairiel: what's the state of bt4?
20:56.31Guardixhttp://guardix.pastey.net/85117 but i was wondering if it was possible to merge the elseif with the if - i get error if i use 'or' and nothing happens if i use 'and'
20:56.35DashkalMeh, not being able to trust timestamps completely broke my expiration strategy.  I wanted to drop any post older than X days.
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20:57.18CIA-903ackis * r68071 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
20:57.18CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
20:57.18CIA-9- Updated Undermine Clam Chowder
20:58.21basslingoim liking the idea here    http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12513.0
20:58.36basslingomaybe have it able to export into tourguide or something
20:59.05NeoTronhttp://guardix.pastey.net/85118
20:59.12NeoTronnever mind the weird formatting
20:59.26EvilJohn-Is there a wowace replacement for OmniCC?
20:59.46Arrowmasterno
20:59.51Arrowmasteruse OmniCC
20:59.54EvilJohn-kk
20:59.59EvilJohn-I didn't htink so
21:00.28Dashkalwtb /target {skull}
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21:00.43Guardixsweeet but i've been wondering this for a while, why do you local arguments outside loops and not inside?
21:01.07basslingothen is local inside the loop
21:01.08ArrowmasterDashkal: you can still use timestamps but you have to allow them to not be 100% accurate
21:01.25Guardixand that causes trouble?
21:01.54GagorianGuardix: Why would you do it inside?
21:01.58DashkalWell, I can go with "age" instead I suppose.  Don't trust the timestamp so much as ask for any message not more than X days old.  But it brought to mind a simple exploit.  Rig your client to always say your own posts are only 1 day old
21:02.14basslingoGuardix: some
21:02.18CIA-903ammo * r68076 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua:
21:02.18CIA-9BetterInbox: if and when you write an event handler, register for that event as well, or you might come over as a silly person.
21:02.18CIA-9~thank kergoth
21:02.18purlCIA-9: pas de quoi
21:02.19ArrowmasterGuardix: you had a table inside the loop, so a new table would be created every time
21:02.31CIA-9037destiny * r68077 10Omniscience/ (Omniscience.toc locale/koKR.lua): Omniscience: added koKR Translation(Thanks turtl)
21:02.32Guardixok :)
21:02.41CIA-903ackis * r68078 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
21:02.41CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
21:02.41CIA-9-Cooking vendor info added for some recipes
21:02.48NeoTronI don't know how lua optimizes this but in general having inner loop local variables means they are allocated/releases for each iteration
21:02.55NeoTronbut again I don't know if this is true for lua
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21:03.11Dashkalerm, no, that'll sort itself out.  Doing that would cause anomalies I could easily detect.  Either the timestamp wouldn't match the reported age or many copies of the same post would suddenly appear.
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21:03.51CIA-9Panda: 03tekkub 07master * r88825f7642 10Panda/ (GemCutting.lua Panda.lua): Add epic cutting panel, Brilliant Glass, new Rare cuts
21:04.07GagorianGuardix: Also if you use the same local each loop
21:04.12DashkalIs there a way to get timezone when asking for the time in wow?  Then I could check the age of a message with at least some accuracy.  (Can't do much for a clock that's just plain wrong but whatever)
21:04.30GagorianGuardix: It's 'costly' to reassign it every time
21:04.34ArrowmasterDashkal: yeah
21:04.36CIA-9037destiny * r68079 10Violation/locales/koKR.lua: Violation: koKR Update(Thanks turtl)
21:04.57DashkalSweet.  That should work then.
21:05.00Guardixnice to know, ty =]
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21:05.20DashkalPart of my strategy to avoid an out of control message store is to have old messages "die off"
21:05.23GagorianGuardix: A straight evaluation with a constant local set outside the loop and inside, yields about 30% less CPU usage
21:05.40ArrowmasterDashkal: see my comments at the bottem of http://jira.wowace.com/browse/LS-21
21:05.55Dashkalreads
21:06.07CIA-903ammo * r68080 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: we're only interested in a full inventory at the mailbox.
21:06.09GagorianGuardix: If the loop consists of a single if evaluation. Of course within more complex loops the percentual difference will be smaller.
21:06.26Arrowmastertime(t) + difftime( time(), time( date("!*t") ) )
21:06.47Guardixn1 :o
21:07.23Arrowmasterwhere time(t) is a UTC date that when entered lua considers local time
21:07.39Arrowmasterso the rest of it is to adjust it back to UTC
21:07.52HjalteAntiarc or Nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/85121
21:08.43ArrowmasterDashkal: so if i remember my own code correctly 'difftime(time(),time(date("!*t")))' should be the timezone in seconds
21:08.59whatsinthenameis the event MAIL_FAILED fired even if the mail goes through fine?
21:09.21hypetechIs it safe to reinstall CooldownCount today?
21:09.42nevcairielHjalte: did you switch between modes when that happend ?
21:09.43Arrowmasterhypetech: it should be but i recommend switching to OmniCC
21:09.53hypetechI don't like OmniCC as much :(
21:09.54AntiarcRegardless, it should be silent, I think.
21:10.00Hjaltenevcairiel: yeah, i might have been
21:10.03hypetechtiny strange looking font
21:10.04hypetech:p
21:10.12Arrowmasterso change it
21:10.20AntiarcI'm changing it
21:10.25DashkalArrowmaster: Perfect.  Thank you.
21:10.26Yssarildid omniCC ever get the frame blacklist back?
21:10.32AntiarcCIA is lagging
21:11.11nevcairielboo the true is such a ugly hack :P
21:11.19NivFreaknevcairiel: what's the state of bt4? I can't seem to find a forum post / wiki for it ;)
21:11.51CIA-903antiarc * r68081 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: Make sure we silently cancel SingleTarget timers.
21:12.07hypetechwhat's a good cooldown timer for items and abilites? Hourglass doesn't let you change bars or w/e and CoolDown is too big for me
21:12.11DashkalSo far I have expire based on date, total size of the store, and total size of all messages from one player (to avoid one player abusing the system)
21:12.13NeoTron]it seems to me that loop { local a = getvalue() } essentially is identical to local a  loop { a = getvalue() }
21:12.19nevcairielNivFreak: it works so far, just lacks some features i didnt get a chance to put it .. i dont promote it yet or anything
21:12.25NeoTronnaturally if you create a table, that's a different thing entirely
21:12.34CIA-903nevcairiel * r68082 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: clear all timers references in OnDisable
21:12.40kergothhypetech: there's cooldownbuttons if you don't need acutal bars, jsut icons+timers.. it all depends on wha tyou're looking for
21:12.41NivFreaknevcairiel: do I remember right that you were adding a "save" mode?
21:12.48Yssarilnevcairiel, idk if you know but is there anyway to check what part of an optiontable was last accesed in ace3? i want to be able check wich tab/tree i am currently in AceConfigDialog
21:12.49nevcairielsave mode?
21:12.49NivFreakto rebind macros/abilities
21:12.58NivFreakafter respecs etc
21:13.02nevcairielno
21:13.05NivFreakoh, hrm
21:13.07NivFreakI wonder who that was
21:13.13NeoTronprofiles for actual button assignments
21:13.14NeoTronbasically
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21:13.15hypetechkergoth: that sounds good, I'll try it out. ty
21:13.18NivFreaknevcairiel: yea
21:13.27UhuruHi, SCT & SCTD don't work since last update
21:13.33NivFreakUhuru: MSBT == win
21:13.43nevcairielSCT shouldve been updated
21:13.49ArrowmasterUhuru: SCT author doesnt come here
21:13.50Yssarilwould recomend the parrot but hes dead atm
21:14.04NeoTronis there a way to make JWU NOT update ace addons but just do the third party stuff?
21:14.08DashkalI was just gonna ask... How far does Parrot have to climb on the todo list yet?
21:14.20Uhurunevcairiel sct_options and sctd_options have been update and sct don't work since the update
21:14.32YssarilNeoTron, put all ace addons on the ignore list :P
21:14.46Brunersis there an estimated time of arrival for parrot?
21:14.53Arrowmasterno
21:15.02Brunersa week, a month, three months
21:15.18YssarilBruners, he has to first iron out all the bugs on DogTag before moving to the next thing
21:15.50EvilJohn-i flipped on the blizzard floating combat text
21:15.53Yssarilthe new parrot will rely dogtags so you cant have one without the other being there first
21:15.55EvilJohn-it lasted about 3 minutes
21:15.59YssarilEvilGrin, yuck
21:16.11Yssarilmt EvilJohn ,Juck
21:16.13zaplNeoTron: maybe hackish.. make the versionnumer files in addon folders be like 10000000
21:16.14BrunersYssaril: aha, just as i assumed then
21:16.15EvilJohn-how I just live wihtout
21:17.00Dashkalheh, I actually like the blizz FCT
21:17.11DashkalI never did get used to SCT.  Tried more than once
21:17.25Yssarilnevcairiel, did you ever answer my question?
21:17.26Brunersmsbt is on wowint?
21:17.27dylanmDid you whiners try the fix in the forums?
21:17.31NivFreakmsbt is win
21:17.50nevcairielYssaril: i bet its possible, i just dont know how :D
21:17.56NeoTronYssaril: that is err. yeah :P
21:18.54Yssarilnevcairiel, hehe i guess i'll have to wait for narg unless Mikk is listening atm :)
21:19.00YssarilMikk ping
21:19.30MentalPower~seen Mikk
21:19.33purlmikk is currently on #wowuidev (13h 1m 49s) #wowace (13h 1m 49s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 44m 29s, last said: 'I like 50!'.
21:20.09basslingoTekkub: Tourguide works fine with Cartographer waypoints. Line 58  TourGuide.lua makes its seem otherwise :P
21:20.26CIA-9TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * r6a767b1afb 10TourGuide/TourGuide_Alliance/43_45_Feralas.lua: Ally Feralas tweaks
21:20.49BrunersjWowUpdater is fucking ace
21:21.07cncfanaticsagree :) I like it :p
21:21.17rubikwhich addon do i need to snag that auto-sells gray items? simplest one out there.. didn't tekkub have one?
21:21.19hypetechAny different than WAU?
21:21.25kergothrubik: tekjunkseller
21:21.32rubikfantabulous, thx
21:21.34Brunersupdates addons from curse, wowui, wowint aswell
21:21.39kergothi use scrap personally, but just cause you can add/remove items to/from the junk list
21:21.42kergothotherwise i'd be using tek's
21:21.59hypetechya, I'd hate to have to trash my [Lucky Rock] :(
21:22.01Yssarilhypetech, and its still being workded whereas WAU is as is and will not get updated anymore
21:22.04Brunershypetech: other than that its the same :P
21:22.21kergothi like WUU myself, more flexibility
21:22.25hypetechWAU isn't being worked on anymore?
21:22.36Yssarilhypetech, yep
21:22.38basslingokergoth: thats what i use :)
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21:22.47basslingomainly cause im on a mac
21:22.57ChaudWomen for Aryan Unity wut
21:23.05hypetechguess I'll try it out
21:23.09AntiarcDoes anyone know if roartindon plans on making Assessment 2.4-compatible?
21:23.11Ackis1/10 chaud
21:23.15Chaudplz son
21:23.16rubiklots of ppl in my guild use wowmatrix... i just use the wowacepy python script thingy and manual updates for non-ace wtuff
21:23.35Chaudackis do something useful like the guy that added castbars to proximo pl0x.
21:23.38kergoth~seen roartindon
21:23.39purlroartindon <n=jtlim@cm32.delta200.maxonline.com.sg> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 33d 11h 48m 50s ago, saying: 'Because it receives one parameter sometimes, two parameters at others'.
21:24.31Ackispfft
21:24.33rubikAntiarc: i thought i saw he posted somewhere that he's working on it
21:24.52YssarilAssessment rocks imo i want it back :)
21:25.18hypetechso why is it that JWU says all of my addons need to be updated for libs when WAU says it's all current?
21:25.45NeoTronso I have this issue with files getting a 000 permission ( from cywgin PoV) when I run an updater like WAU
21:25.48Yssarilhypetech, cause JWU tracks version numbers differently from WAU :P
21:25.55keisshypetech: any chance u have WAU set without externals and the JWU thing with ?
21:25.59NeoTronalso have seen it on files in my WoW SaveDvariables directoeru (preventing saving)
21:26.02NeoTronwtf can be causing that?
21:26.15hypetechkeiss: I just changed JWU to do with as well
21:26.24hypetechYssaril: doesn't that cause issues? o.0
21:26.38Yssarilit causes issues if you use both of them together :P
21:26.44hypetechsigh
21:26.45hypetechlol
21:27.05Yssaril2 updaters for the same thing is bad :P
21:28.18Arrowmasterack my msys bash prompt now has colors in my PS1!
21:28.38Arrowmasteri really need to fix these issues from when i had SFU installed a few years ago
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21:33.10hypetechAny way to get Hourglass to track potions and mana gems?
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21:36.16DashkalTekkub: What's wrong with { ... }?  Is there another way to iterate over what's hidden in it? for k, v, in ... or some such?
21:36.50Antiarcfor i = 1, select("#", ...)
21:36.53ArrowmasterDashkal: for i=1,select('#',...) do
21:36.56Antiarc{...} creates a new table
21:37.03Tekkubfor i=1,select("#", ...) do local v = select(i, ...)
21:37.20Dashkalgotcha *edits post*
21:37.46Tekkubold lua created a table "args" when you used ... and called for lookup
21:37.49Tekkubbig memory waste
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21:42.17Vulcanuswtb foreach
21:42.44AntiarcWhat's wrong with for, in, do ?
21:43.04Dashkalhmm, I really gotta start posting UI-related stuff on my "Dashkal" alt for less confusion...
21:43.18VulcanusIm used to php syntax, sue me :(
21:43.48hypetechwhat does "Enable debuff filtering" in Pitbull Target Aura do?  Will that make scorch always show up if I'm a mage?
21:44.24Vulcanuseducated guess would mean it would only show your own debuffs
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21:45.07Ellipsisit hides debuffs that are not enabled in your global aura filters
21:45.12Vulcanusor that
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21:45.39ZhinjioHey Ellipsis
21:45.52ZhinjioGood afternoon Tekkub
21:45.57Tekkub:P
21:46.07ZhinjioEllipsis: its a girl!
21:46.22Vulcanuswhat, on the intarwebs?
21:46.23Zhinjio(appt this morning was for ultrasound goodness)
21:46.28Vulcanusoh
21:46.37Ellipsisgrats Zhinjio
21:46.40NeoTronZhinjio: creating a new level 1 alt?
21:46.42Zhinjiosmiles big.
21:46.44ZhinjioIndeed.
21:46.56Vulcanuslets hope its a mage
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21:47.29Zhinjiowe were expecting aboy, I think... but its all good either way. So long as its healthy
21:47.53Zhinjiofirst girl on my dad's side of the family in like... 3 or 4 generations.
21:47.58Vulcanuswell in 16 years youll have a boy. In her room. In her bed.
21:48.03Zhinjioheh
21:48.15Zhinjiothere will be time to think about that between now and then
21:48.31Vulcanuscan't start too early ;D
21:48.35Zhinjioheh
21:48.42Zhinjiopicking out shotguns.
21:48.47Vulcanuslmao
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21:49.21DashkalGo with a pistol.  Easier to hide when you don't want it obvious,  and bullets are better than spray when you want a precise shot :p
21:49.26Vulcanusalternatively you could just give her a computer for her 6th birthday, ensures that the only boys she'll meet end in .jpg or .avi
21:49.26VulcanusXD
21:49.56ZhinjioI don't want to kill him. Just knock the shit out of him and make him think twice about what he's getting himself into.
21:50.09Vulcanusthen a baseball bat might be just as handy
21:50.14DashkalLead pipe
21:50.18Vulcanusor that
21:50.33Zhinjioto quote my uncle "This kid's going to be born with a USB port up its ass, and it will email everyone about its own birth"
21:50.37DashkalThere's something inherently threatening about an out of place length of lead pipe :p
21:50.44VulcanusXD
21:50.54Ellipsiswaiiiit I'm confused
21:50.59Vulcanusnice to see parents aren't afraid of beating the ever-living shit out of someone who might actually be a nice guy
21:51.05Ellipsishow can it be a girl if there are no girls on the interwebs
21:51.06Zhinjioheh
21:51.17Zhinjiothere aren't?
21:51.18Zhinjioshit.
21:51.20ZhinjioI'm in trouble.
21:51.24DashkalI feel so dirty...
21:51.28Ellipsiswinks at Zhinjio
21:51.30Zhinjioheh
21:51.49VulcanusMarried Men Online RolePlaying Girls
21:51.54Zhinjiomet my wife online. So unless she's been... uh ... hiding something I don't know about
21:52.13Vulcanussorry to have to tell you dude, it wasn't hemorrhoids
21:52.15Zhinjionot sure how she could fake the ultrasound tho
21:52.31Zhinjiosome sort of freakishly long planned scheme to fool me.
21:52.38Vulcanuspay the doc enough money and he can playback a video easily
21:52.42DashkalBribery and a video tape for the monitor :p
21:52.45Dashkalbah, too slow
21:52.49Zhinjioso wtf is it with wow not exiting properly all the time since 2.4
21:52.50Vulcanusi are the winrar
21:53.11Zhinjiomaybe half the time the client just hands on exit game or logout
21:53.21EllipsisZhinjio: some of us will go to great lengths to pretend to be teh gurlz
21:53.25Zhinjioanyone else getting that?
21:53.25Tekkubso, stupid question.... the new config UI...
21:53.27Ellipsisit's something about the attention, I think
21:53.43ZhinjioEllipsis: you're breaking my heart (<3)
21:53.52VulcanusI only do it on this norwegian chat site to make the guys trying to cyber people feel like fools
21:53.53VulcanusXD
21:54.04whatsinthenameanybody have a solution to the problem posted at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5754665575&postId=57537377979&sid=1#0
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21:54.31TekkubI have been putting "About" panels in all my stuff... which layout ya'all think is better: AceConfig style where the base panel is the "About" and all subpanels have options... or base panels has the common settings, subpanels below that and "About" as the last subpanel?
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21:55.32VulcanusAbout as the last panel. When I open a mod I want to be introduced to the options, not the life story of the author XD
21:55.34ZhinjioTekkub: the latter is more intuitive to me from other programs, but the former seems to more common in addons/wow
21:55.46ZhinjioVulcanus: agreed.
21:55.58Zhinjiokeep about/credits to a help page or about panel that isn't intrusive.
21:56.00Tekkubwell it's not "life story" it's just the basic TOC data
21:56.13Tekkubmain thing is getting people to SEE the links and use them
21:56.20Tekkubinstead of posting shit to WoWI comment
21:56.25Zhinjiowell, if you want donations ... *grin*
21:56.28Ellipsisgood luck with that
21:56.30TekkubI don't
21:56.32Zhinjioor that.
21:56.44Yssarilprolly a nub question but i never really questioned it before it seams to be the convention that if you call a function that returns several values and you only care about the second on you declare  _, var2 = func() is _ a special character in this case or is it basically just a variable that you dump all the unwanted stuff onto?
21:56.47ZhinjioI got my first one ever a couple weeks ago!
21:56.53ZhinjioI had no idea how to respond. *grin*
21:57.03TekkubI've gotten $55 in donation over what, 3 years?
21:57.04Grum_ is just a gloal
21:57.06Ellipsisyou could have your addons pop up red warnings every login and people would still post comments wherever they feel like it
21:57.10Vulcanusit's weird how we can't seem to train users to actually write meaningful error reports
21:57.16whatsinthenamepeople who care about seeing that info will eventually find the about tab, people who dont wont care even if its on the first page
21:57.17Zhinjiowhatsinthename: check out other addons that also listen for mail events and see how they do it.
21:57.18Grum*global
21:57.21starlon_wtf happened to wowwiki
21:57.25WobinYssaril: generally yes. However if there are a -lot- of variables you want to skip, you'd be better off using select()
21:57.28Grumbut yeah its convention to use _
21:57.35Grumyeah
21:57.37Tekkubokey, I'll stick with about being last panel
21:57.57YssarilWobin, so select(2, func()) ?
21:58.10Grumnot if you want to skip 1 value
21:58.15WobinYssaril: Yes, but if you're only skipping one, _ is better
21:58.18Grumbut if you are going to skip3+ orso
21:58.25Wobin^
21:58.28Grumbecause you are really doing assignments
21:58.33YssarilWobin, kk
21:58.48WobinStrike a balance between the number of assignments, and a function call =)
21:58.57Yssarilcan you do something like select(1,6,func()) and it will return only those 2 vals?
21:59.00Grumyeah hehe benchmark ;D
21:59.02Wobinno
21:59.27Zhinjioman. a girl.
21:59.29Wobinselect will return the #, #+1, #+2, #+... arguments
21:59.30Zhinjiowhat a head trip.
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22:00.03Zhinjiomy mother is freaking out.
22:00.11Zhinjioshe wanted a girl bad and had two boys
22:00.14Zhinjiomy brother has two boys
22:00.21whatsinthenameZhinjio: can you suggest one?
22:00.30NivFreakZhinjio: buy a dress
22:00.31Yssarilso now to a real example to replace name, _, _, _, connected = GetFriendInfo(i) i would need to use name, connected = select(1,GetFriendInfo(i)) , select(5,GetFriendInfo(i))
22:00.45Zhinjiowhatsinthename: BulkMail2 BulkMail2Inbox ... uh ...
22:00.53kergothYssaril: you wouldnt want to replace that, stick to the _'s there
22:00.57ZhinjioI don't remember any others anymore.
22:00.58[eu]gunderwhatsinthename: Postal
22:01.02ZhinjioPostal, sure.
22:01.27Yssarilkergoth, hehe cool thats what i thought
22:01.36ZhinjioNivFreak: my mom is already sending us baby clothes, and its like... 5 months away
22:01.44NivFreakhah
22:01.47NivFreakcongrats btw
22:01.50Zhinjiothank you
22:01.57NivFreakmine is 17 months old now
22:02.00[eu]gunderyeah grats Zhinjio
22:02.01Zhinjiothe next grand adventure.
22:02.04kergothYssaril: wouldnt make much sense, you'd gain nothing, slow things down by calling GetFriendInfo twice, and make hte code uglier
22:02.06Zhinjionice.
22:02.10NivFreakkids change things
22:02.13Zhinjiosure.
22:02.19ZhinjioI can't wait.
22:02.22NivFreakit's kind of surreal ;)
22:02.51ZhinjioI can't wait to teach her things.
22:02.58Yssarilso would it be beneficial to declare a local _ in my addon?
22:03.18Zhinjiothanks [eu]gunder
22:03.21NivFreakZhinjio: teach her how bad DKP is
22:03.25NivFreak;)
22:03.31Zhinjiono doubt!!
22:03.45Zhinjioshe's going to be a gamer, pretty much guarnateed.
22:03.53kergothYssaril: assuming you didnt declare it local on that line, yes. you don't want to mess with a global _
22:04.01[eu]gunderwill she be dressed in purple? ^^
22:04.13Zhinjiomy wife isn't fond of purple, in general.
22:04.16Zhinjioso probably not
22:04.20Zhinjioor pink, for that matter
22:04.30Zhinjioprobably more yellows and whatever else.
22:04.38[eu]gunderwell it's going to be epic anyway ;)
22:04.46Zhinjiooh yeah. hah!
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22:05.03Ellipsisbut the question is, what will her name be? :P
22:05.21Zhinjiowe're throwing around a bunch... nothing decided yet.
22:05.33Zhinjiotoday's favorite on the car ride back from the doc was "Anja Sophia"
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22:06.04Zhinjio|cffff00ff [Baby]|r
22:06.07Zhinjioheh
22:06.27Zhinjiothis forum should autoparse that.
22:06.44kergoththis isn't a forum. maybe your client should
22:06.52Zhinjiowell, right. what you said.
22:07.07ZhinjioI was using the word in the general sense. but whatever.
22:07.10Dashkalfor extra spam and misery get one of the bots to repeat those with mirc coloring
22:07.14ChaudWhy does armory not recognize FF3 =\
22:07.40Zhinjiowow, its nearly beer o'clock. And I haven't done my drinking calisthenics yet.
22:07.46ZhinjioI'll talk to y'all later.
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22:08.07DashkalTake care.  And Congrats :)
22:10.23[Merc]Balstordoes anyone know how long it takes to get SVN access?
22:11.02MentalPower[Merc]Balstor: a few days
22:11.24Polarina[Merc]Balstor: Within three business days.
22:11.35[Merc]Balstormehh :(  I was hoping to uplaod before I went on the road for a week, O well
22:11.44MentalPowerPolarina: that makes it sound like a business :P
22:12.18[Merc]Balstorsomeof us only think in business days :)
22:12.53MentalPowerwell, business day is also misleading, since most work happens on the weekends
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22:14.39Tullerbusiness day'
22:15.42Dashkalhmm, so 3 'business' days means 1-2 weeks? :p
22:16.21[Merc]BalstorIcould comment on that dashkal but I would get banned
22:16.33Dashkalheh
22:17.25[Merc]Balstorthough I am so happy right now :) I get to work from home for a month /cheer
22:17.49DashkalNice... Wish I could get away with that... Sadly nothing would get done.
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22:18.05DashkalDeadline? I'll get to it after the raid
22:18.06[Merc]BalstorIt gets better
22:18.18[Merc]BalstorI live in New Orleans
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22:19.31DashkalI suppose that would mean more to me if I didn't live way out in Vancouver
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22:20.39[Merc]Balstorand I will get to raid/drink and work all at the same time muhahahahah
22:21.01TularisDoes anyone know of any 2.4 chat addons that actually allow you to change the combatlog, or (even better), make multiple? =/
22:21.09Nanakihey guys i was wondering how hard it would be to put together a mod that would notify you when you go below 3k mana to take a pot. im familiar with a few programming languages but havent written anythign in LuA yet
22:21.12Zhinjiooh, for those what care: http://babyblog.trippy.org/
22:21.15kergothTularis: CombatFilter addon on wowace lets you make multiple
22:21.17Zhinjioand now... beers. Peace, y'all.
22:21.29kergothTularis: works nicely
22:21.47Tulariswill try that out, works with standard chatframes I guess?
22:21.52kergothyep
22:21.58Tularisnice, thanks for the tip!
22:22.04kergothyou set up a filter in it (/cfilter) and tell itw hich chat frame to send it to
22:22.05kergothnp
22:22.09TularisNanaki, that'd be pretty easy
22:22.25[Merc]BalstorNanaki not hard at all just use the check energy/manan api and flash a message or soundmaybe 20 lines of code for a simple version
22:22.27Tularisunless you want it to automatically drink a pot, which is impossible
22:22.32kergothNanaki: that addon already exists in many forms.  some scrolling text addons include low mana warnings built in
22:22.38Tularis^^
22:22.39Chaudthink that is a feature in some SCT like addons
22:22.42Chaudbah =(
22:22.50Nanakiyeah, i get a low mana warning in MSBT/Parrot
22:23.04Nanakibut i'd prefer to pot as early as possible.. can you filter it so it's like -3k mana?
22:24.28Tularisso [MaxMana-3k]?
22:24.29[Merc]BalstorI know in sct the options pannel lets you choose when to sound the alarm
22:25.17Nanakiyeah, i was thinkign about making somethign like that so people wouldn't wait til the last moment to do it
22:25.18TularisWell, what I had some time ago is basically I made my mana bar go yellow when I had less than Max-3k mana left
22:25.30Tulariswhich was pretty easy with pitbull and some dogtagging
22:25.41Nanakiinteresting
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22:26.05Tularisit worked for me :) But then again, I never really used MSBT/parrot like addons
22:26.07[Merc]Balstorany politic fiends out there try this site http://www.ontheissues.org/
22:26.26Tularisamerican again
22:26.45Nanakiid like something kinda in your face.. i started a reroll recently and have gotten a bunch of new raiders in our group. for whatever reason our healers always run out of mana and seem to wait til the last moment to pot.
22:26.57Tularis:P
22:26.57Nanakisame with some of hte mages :)
22:27.06Tularismages shouldn't pot! :o
22:27.11Nanakijust something maybe like.. POT NOW BITCHES! hehe
22:27.12Tularisthat's what the 30,000 gems are for
22:27.32Tularishell, you could even make an addon that whispers them to :)
22:27.39Nanakilol
22:27.44Nanakithat would be killer
22:27.58Tulariswouldn't be long either I'd think
22:28.00NanakiPotChugger.. notifies you and whispers your party when they should take a mana pot..
22:28.06Tularishehe
22:28.16Nanakihow do you control spam though?
22:28.34stesmiHi. I'm trying to learn how to write addons (well) and I've come to a point where I need a pointer where to continue reading. What I've done is listen to the event that signals I have a party invite and then depending on my own rules I accept or decline - all this works, but the original ACCEPT/DECLINE Frame is shown. I'm assuming I have to hook some kind of function to make it not show but...
22:28.35Nanakilike.. i dont want it to flash again until they go above 3k mana
22:28.36stesmi...HOW do I get a list of functions I can hook? I've looked at wowace and wowwiki and not seen it (maybe I just missed it?). Anyone care to give me a pointer?
22:28.46Tulariswell, if you make it to only send 1 message per time the person goes over the border; or only one message per X seconds, it should work
22:28.48[Merc]Balstorhave it talk over the private comms channel so only one copy talks to one person
22:29.20Nanakiehh actually i think id rather not spam people... sounds like more work :-P
22:29.28Tularis=p
22:29.30Nanakijust want a small mod that will alert them the best time to pot
22:30.16Tularisstesmi, I think you don't want to hook the function, but instead replace it with an empty one
22:30.24Nanakianyhow.. i dont even know where to begin..
22:30.27Tularisor hook it and follow it by an immediate close
22:30.40Antiarcstesmi: You can hook most anything. If you're looking for what's called, get the Blizzard Interface Kit and extra the stock UI code, then peek through there.
22:30.43stesmiTularis: alright, but how do I figure out the name of the function that I hook (or not hook)
22:30.55stesmiAnti: now we're talking.
22:31.02stesmipointer to where to find that? :)
22:31.09stesmithat sounds like what I need
22:31.38[Merc]Balstornanaki try this link http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon
22:31.45vithosAntiarc: paladin threat is way off with current revision
22:32.23Yssarilstesmi, basically any frame has a Show() and a Hide() function so all you really have to do is frame.Show = function() end now when the show function is called it just runs the empty function
22:32.31[Merc]Balstornanaki and open this link in a second window http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API
22:33.07stesmiYssaril: I'd need to figure out the name of the frame first (which is really what I problem was)
22:33.15stesmiTrying to find the interface kit now ..
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22:33.33godzirraheya folks.
22:33.59godzirraCan anyone help me out?  I'm using pitbull, and I've updated since 2.4, but I still don't get the names of spells on the cast bar, and mana bars all tell me "Unknown tag" for level and class...
22:34.03godzirraAnyone know how to fix that?
22:34.04Tularistry hooking StaticPopup_Hide(arg1)
22:34.09NanakiBlastor: thanks im goign to check those out
22:34.14Tularisand check for arg1="PARTY_INVITE"
22:34.20Yssarilstesmi, i personnaly use the "where is my cow" addon if you enable it then you can hold down shif and you will see what frames are under your pointer
22:34.29Tularisehm, I meant hook StaticPopup_Show("PARTY_INVITE"); and run StaticPopup_Hide("PARTY_INVITE"); :P
22:34.30kergothgodzirra: you'll probably need to reset your profile or update all your tags, because tehe dogtag syntax changed
22:34.36godzirraAh hrm.
22:34.41godzirrahow od I reset my profile?
22:34.43stesmiTularis: that's what I thought you meant (show and not hide)
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22:34.50godzirraCrap, I just got it all the way I wanted it too =p
22:34.51stesmiYssaril: good idea
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22:35.34godzirrawell crap.  I just disabled class text nwo and have no idea where to enable it again. :/
22:35.56godzirranevermind, I figured out how to reenable it.  How do I delete my profile?
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22:36.13Antiarcvithos: Elaborate please.
22:36.24vithosi'm in a ZA timed run
22:36.31vithosbut i went over double the aggro pull amount
22:36.34vithoswithout pulling
22:36.39vithosprot paladin
22:36.42AntiarcYour class, their class?
22:36.46vithoshunter vs paladin
22:37.01vithosbut everyone else is way above them too
22:37.14AntiarcSo paladin threat is underreporting
22:37.21vithosyeah
22:37.33AntiarcI'll see what I can find
22:38.08Tularisanyway, stesmi, if you want to know what functions to hook, etc. your best bet is to look trough blizzard's UI code. I recommend installing the InterfaceAddOnKit (you can download it from worldofwarcraft.com somewhere) which will extract it all into basic lua and xml files for ya
22:38.18stesmiI just found it
22:38.18godzirraMy pally's threat seems to be reporting fairly accurately if we're talking about omen...
22:38.21stesmiafter some searching
22:38.24stesmiunpacking nw
22:38.24Yssarilanyone know if there is a way to make the tree group in AceConfigDialog adjust its width depending on the the width of the text in it?
22:39.12Antiarcvithos: What's the paladin's revision?
22:39.14Tularisright, time to fix up another site... *sigh*
22:40.02vithos68050
22:40.11vithospaladin just taunted bear boss off warrior, and didnt' get the warrior's threat
22:40.13godzirraAh, maybe its a new issue?
22:40.31godzirraAntiarc: I'm using r67942, and it seems to be almost exactly 100%ish that they get pulled off me.
22:40.31vithoswarrior also at the same revision
22:40.37Gnarfozckknight: does CowTip actually use or need LDT-2.0 anymore?
22:40.47ckknightno, it uses 3.0
22:41.13Gnarfozbecause it's still in its OptionalDeps, as is Threat-1.0
22:41.21ckknightick
22:41.23godzirraCan anyone tell me how to reset my pitbull profile so that my dogtag tag's actually work again, instead of saying unknown tag?
22:41.26Gnarfozshould I remove LDT-2.0 and bump to Threat-2.0?
22:41.31ckknightsomeone should fix that
22:41.36ckknightcoughs in Gnarfoz's direction
22:41.45ckknight;-)
22:42.00Gnarfozwas just wondering why ACP kept enabling Threat-1.0 ^^
22:42.02ckknightgodzirra: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibDogTag-3.0 for tags
22:42.09ckknightgodzirra: or type /dog ingame
22:42.12Tulleryou know, I just realized, "hey I can finally do a reverse buff display"
22:42.21Tullersince I can use GetSpellInfo for localization
22:42.24godzirrackknight: thanks.  How do I change them for pitbull though?
22:42.28Gnarfozwow, there's out-of-game docs now, woot :)
22:42.29[Merc]Balstortime for dinner, see everyone l8rs
22:42.39ckknightgodzirra: open the config?
22:42.44GnarfozTuller: meaning... what, missing buffs?
22:42.50Tullerright
22:43.20Gnarfozinteresting
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22:45.31Gnarfozckknight: actually, that was a bit confused there: CowTip has "X-Embeds: LDT-2.0", whereas LDT-2.0 itself has "OptDeps: Threat-1.0" - obiously Threat-1.0 doesn't do anything anymore, but does LDT-2.0 work with Threat-2.0?
22:45.50ChaudYez. "Well...after some how not knowing that with a spell ID you can get the cast time, its makes cast bars a lot more feasible combined with the new combat log. I'll put it on my list for after my SCT custom events re-write."
22:45.51ckknightno, and LDT-2.0 is deprecated
22:46.04ChaudProximo with good cast bars ftw
22:46.18godzirraThat fixed my dog tag syntax, but I don't know why I don't have my spell listed in my castbar still...
22:47.18Gnarfozckknight: so, removing X-Embeds: LDT-2.0 from CowTip: yes; removing OptDeps: Threat-1.0 from LDT-2.0: no?
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22:48.05Gnarfozdon't wanna break anything ;>
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22:50.52Gnarfoz~seen toadkiller
22:50.55purltoadkiller <n=dnester@adsl-75-30-187-11.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 119d 20h 28m 36s ago, saying: 'no it needs to swallow a bear which swallowed a man'.
22:54.27hypetechis there a simpleish mod that will show me how much AP STR equals in a tooltip?
22:54.39ckknightGnarfoz: right
22:54.45aestilhypetech: double?
22:54.47DashkalRatingBuster?
22:54.55aestilhypetech: if you are a warrior, 10 str = 20 ap
22:55.03aestilhypetech: 42 str = 84 ap.
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22:55.07hypetechret pally, I think it's like 2.1 something
22:55.13aestilah.
22:55.18NeoTronaestil: wait wait.. how about 58 str?
22:55.26aestil116?
22:55.28Gnarfozit's 2:1 for paladins like for warriors, hypetech
22:55.50Gnarfozor 1:2 whichever way you see it. any .2 or .1 thingies you see might take BoK into account
22:56.14Gnarfozkicks CIA-9
22:56.16hypetechWell I also have 5/5 Divine Strength
22:56.22NeoTronthat doesn't include AP
22:56.23hypetechso I get 5% of my total str
22:56.28NeoTronthat includes your strength
22:56.33hypetecher 10%
22:56.49NeoTron42 str == 84 AP always
22:56.53hypetechhmm
22:56.59NeoTronit's just that with DS you actuallt get 46 str
22:57.14Gnarfozwhich is also displayed everywhere, because it's a talent, not a buff
22:57.17hypetechwell anything that says 1 str would actually be 1.1 str, so it would be 2.2 AP I guess
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22:57.30Gnarfozitems, yes, character screen, no
22:57.38NeoTronbut ratingbuster => does that
22:57.40Gnarfozckknight: commited, CIA seems to be lagging tho. ;)
22:57.44hypetechright, I'm just wanting to compare items
22:57.58NeoTronhypetech: get PAWN or SmartFitter or so
22:58.00Dashkalpawn?
22:58.03NeoTronand make a profile
22:58.04Dashkalfoiled again
22:58.13dylanmKings benefit is definitely something to consider.
22:58.34hypetechI use pawn on my mage, but I don't feel like setting up something that complex for the pally, I just didn't know if there was something straight forward
22:58.41hypetechmy RatingBuster isn't showing AP at all :-\
22:58.47LoonacySo what's the deal with Quixote/LibQuixote2.0?  Is 2.0 usable, and preferable to 1.0?
22:58.51NeoTronhow hard is it to set it up? :P
22:59.21NeoTronesp since just comparing str with ap is hardly going to help a lot - there aer more melee stats ;-)
22:59.29hypetechya
22:59.35hypetechsigh. I guess I'll just stop being lazy
22:59.37hypetechlol
22:59.45Gnarfoz~lazyness
22:59.52DashkalI'm lazy but use pawn... so I just start with the default and zero any stats I don't care about
22:59.59Gnarfoz~laziness
22:59.59purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
23:00.05hypetechhaha
23:00.07Gnarfoz^--- that
23:00.16Dashkalnice
23:00.42NeoTronindeed
23:03.11NeoTronnice thing with SmartFitter over Pawn is that smartfitter can find the best item combination for you
23:03.12stesmifound a better way than to hook StaticPopup_Show() and work from there .. I think .. Use HookScript() instead of Hook() on StaticPopupDialogs["PARTY_INVITE"] -> OnShow(), that way I don't have to care at all about calling the other functions and juse hook that to an empty func
23:03.19Gnarfozwut
23:03.28Gnarfozwhere can I see stuff that was deleted from SVN?
23:03.36Gnarfozwithout knowing the rev # it was deleted?
23:03.45DashkalDogTag question: In what order are the operands for a chain of : operators evaluated?  Left to right? [HP:Hide(0):Green]  Would that produce a green nothing on 0 health? (Just trying to understand the syntax)
23:04.05Ellipsisleft to right
23:04.11DashkalDanke
23:04.41DashkalSo that would be the same as the awkword looking [Green(Hide(HP, 0))]?
23:05.08Ellipsisyep, exactly
23:05.17Dashkalsweet.  I think I'm getting this
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23:05.52charonmorning
23:06.01DashkalMwrarf
23:06.04Chaud" Intangir[US-Mugthol]: i want an addon that only tells me when someone is casting something ON ME" does something like that exist?
23:06.40Gnarfozyou could probably modify Witchhunt to do that, if it doesn't already have that functionality
23:06.53Gnarfoz~seen peragor
23:06.55purlperagor <n=richmart@c-71-232-199-49.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 23h 13m 14s ago, saying: 'I still use TekKompare.  Not ace, but it doesn't need to be, unless you are too lazy to link it into you "non-ace addon updator" of choice.'.
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23:16.31Chaudso there is nothing that tells you only spells casted on you right now?
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23:18.16AntiarcCIA is being slow
23:18.17AntiarcBut
23:18.18AntiarcThreat-2.0:
23:18.18Antiarc- Fix Holy Shield threat
23:18.18Antiarc- Invalidate buff lookup tables after class buff handlers are registered. Fixes problems with buffs already existing on login.
23:18.26Sent_anyone knows if SetCandyBarIcon is bugged?
23:20.11NivFreakAntiarc: so, which was was holy shield threat fixed? :P
23:20.13AntiarcWhat?
23:20.30AntiarcI was using the wrong callback type
23:20.32AntiarcFor Holy Shield
23:20.33Pkekyo|seriously though....where the flying fuck is all teh blue food?!
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23:20.47AntiarcIt'll properly get the 1.35 multiplier now
23:21.07NivFreakso it was only getting a 1x multiplier before?
23:21.27Antiarcyeah
23:21.28NivFreakPkekyo|: blue food?
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23:21.49LoonacyGah, no wonder my threat bar was so low.
23:21.51NivFreakAntiarc: I often see commits to threat and wonder HOW things were fixed
23:21.58AntiarcAnd if the paladin logged in with Righteous Fury active, it wasn't catching it, due to an over-eager optimization
23:21.58LoonacyI thought I just sucked. :(
23:22.07AntiarcNivFreak: Check the diffs! :P
23:22.19NivFreakAntiarc: don't get diffs from jwow, just change log!
23:22.20NivFreak;)
23:22.51Pkekyo|NivFreak: yeah...THERE IS NO FUCING BLUE FOOD?!
23:22.58NeoTronAntiarc: last night in BT AoE mode didn't show anything at all.
23:23.01Delorala01:19 [Antiarc] - Fix Holy Shield threat <-- do i now do more or less threat^^
23:23.02NeoTronAntiarc: is it disabled ?
23:23.13NivFreakNeoTron: same problem for me in hyjal :)
23:23.23vithosAntiarc: thanks
23:23.25AntiarcDelorala: You'll show more threat
23:23.26charon~lart CIA-9
23:23.26purlinstalls a bad bootloader on CIA-9 and turns CIA-9 into a brick
23:23.41AntiarcNeoTron: Not disabled, but there's a bug that makes it not show anything at times. I can't figure out where it is yet.
23:24.13charonsighs
23:24.14Pkekyo|there's food in all bloody colors but blue...WHY?!
23:24.18charon~lart charon
23:24.18purlblasts charon with a huge firehose then strangles charon with it
23:24.39NivFreakPkekyo|: wth are you talking about?
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23:25.51Pkekyo|NivFreak: I'm talking about the fact that there is no blue food! o.O
23:25.51Pkekyo|WHERE IS IT?! somebody stole it!
23:26.27Pkekyo|I'm onto you NivFreak...thievin' bastard
23:27.19Pkekyo|seriously though...
23:27.19Pkekyo|every other damn color there is is represented by some food...but there's no blue food!
23:28.18KeiasWhat about Blueberries?
23:28.25Pkekyo|they're purple, and you know it!
23:28.58Pkekyo|I've sat on enough blueberrybushes in my life to know that my arse goes purple from doing so, and not blue
23:28.59Keiastotally blue
23:29.19NeoTronAntiarc: any lead on missing ppl on threat? Doin bloodboil with 2 tanks where one was missing from Omen was.. interesting
23:29.24Pkekyo|go sit on a blueberry bush wearing white pants, then come back Keias
23:29.33charonPkekyo|: does Gin Tonic under UV light count
23:29.44vithosblue corn chips
23:29.51Pkekyo|charon: no, it has to be naturally blue
23:29.51AntiarcNot yet :/
23:29.53Pkekyo|vithos: what's that?
23:29.54AntiarcThey're up to date?
23:30.22charondoes anyone use git-svn for addon management? how do you get around the svn:externals problem?
23:30.23Pkekyo|if it's manufactured to be blue (like just about every candy there is), it doesn't count
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23:30.52Pkekyo|hai Ellipsis
23:31.20Pkekyo|did you eat all the blue food?!
23:31.28Pkekyo|vithos: what's blue corn chips?
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23:32.27DashkalAbout the only kind of blue "food" I can think of is certain kinds of not-immediately-toxic fungi...
23:32.41Ellipsisfish can be blue...on the outside at least
23:33.00Pkekyo|Ellipsis: true, but fish scales are generally not considered food
23:33.08Dashkaleh, I eat the skin if it's there
23:33.16Pkekyo|Dashkal: food in the process of decomposing doesn't count either
23:33.27DashkalI mean the fungi itself, not whayever its eating
23:33.37Pkekyo|Dashkal: ever gone into a restaurant and ordered a plate of fishscales? I rest my case...
23:33.40vithosPkekyo|: sorry, tortilla chips
23:33.43charonPkekyo|: google immediately turns up http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3403928 which has a list of a dozen or so
23:33.44Wobinblue...berries?
23:33.51Wobin!
23:34.19Pkekyo|Wobin: they're purple
23:34.25Wobinno they're blue =)
23:34.33Wobinotherwise they'd be purpleberries
23:34.41[eu]gunder:s
23:34.41Wobincause it's not like we're not going for obvious naming here
23:34.47Wobinhi2u ORANGES
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23:35.21Pkekyo|Wobin: wear white pants, go sit on a blueberry bush and see what color your arse takes...they're purple!
23:35.22Trell_is the aggro coloring in pitbull relatively new?
23:35.22DashkalHi Mr. Grocerer.  I'd like 5 pounds of yellows.
23:35.30EllipsisTrell_: no, it's always been there
23:35.31[eu]gunderthere is no "naturally" blue food, which is why the human eye can differentiate many shades of green but not blue
23:35.40Trell_only just noticed it, it's awesome for healing.
23:35.44Trell_(in 5 mans)
23:35.57[eu]gunderand blueberries are definitly purple
23:36.11DashkalI wonder if blue algae is technically edible.
23:36.18Pkekyo|ok, bullshit like 'might turn a pale blue if cooked under alkaine conditions' is NOT naturally blue...
23:36.27Pkekyo|Dashkal: if you're a whale? go for it..
23:36.45DashkalYou didn't specify "Commonly consumed by humans"
23:37.11[eu]gunder~whaleslap Dashkal
23:37.12purlACTION beats Dashkal upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
23:37.25Dashkalheh
23:37.45Pkekyo|'blue smarties'...that list of yours with 'blue foodstuffs' is getting less and less credible...it lists science fiction food damnit!
23:37.47DashkalIt wasn't a joke question, though.  I wonder if it's possible to prepare blue algae for human consumption
23:38.15Wobinapparently bilberries are 'officially' blue =)
23:38.42Pkekyo|Dashkal: probably, but I highly doubt you'd gain any mentionworthy nutrition from it, so meh...
23:38.55vithosDashkal: spirulina is an edible blue-grean algae
23:39.00[eu]gunderwell since every summer I collect 4-5 kg of blueberries to make Jam I can assure you it is purple
23:39.13vithosblue-green *
23:39.16Pkekyo|Wobin: I've sat on those too...look black-ish on the outside, is transparent or red-ish on the inside
23:39.26Pkekyo|vithos: not blue though
23:39.27charonPkekyo|: rtfa :p
23:39.52Pkekyo|charon: ?
23:39.54charonit even calls those "'Blue' Foodstuffs" and "impostors"
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23:40.10Dashkalspirulina does make a pretty good case for algae having nutritional value
23:40.23charonhow much more of a warning do you need to realize blue smarties aren't actually blue food...
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23:41.05Pkekyo|charon: it lists science fiction food as 'blue foodstuffs' (the real stuff), so no, I won't take that shit seriously
23:41.40Pkekyo|meh, I want a Benelli M3
23:41.47YssarilNargiddley, ping
23:42.22vithosPkekyo|: your definition of blue is questionable.
23:42.31charonbtw, by your blueberry logic humans are actually red: try hitting them with a white car
23:42.32Pkekyo|vithos: howso?
23:43.05Pkekyo|blue != blueish purple
23:43.11vithosPkekyo|: blueberries and blue corn are blue
23:43.27Pkekyo|vithos: blow me, blueberries are fucking purple; go sit on a bush
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23:43.44DashkalAnd apples are white
23:43.44vithosit's blue pigment, what color do you get if you mix it with something white?
23:43.47Spiritstrikebushes are for poking not sitting on
23:43.49SpiritstrikeLoL
23:43.55ZiconI've seen blue potatoes for sale, but I haven't bought any, so I won't vouch for their actual blueness.
23:43.57Dashkalheh, actually wait a tick
23:43.58Pkekyo|vithos: light blue?
23:44.07vithosblue is blue.
23:44.08vithosimo
23:44.11quiescensorange
23:44.23DashkalCouldn't you get a blue pigment from some snails?  Or was that only purple?
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23:44.51Pkekyo|Dashkal: when you start to eat that disgusting crap, you've got bigger problems than wether they're blue or purple :p
23:45.14Wobinpft
23:45.15DashkalEh, I've yet to try snails so I won't judge if they're disgusting
23:45.23DashkalI'll try it once if offered
23:45.34Pkekyo|I'd run like a motherfucker
23:45.35WobinI say that Pkekyo| needs to broaden his definition of blue to be 'Any colour that's not green'
23:45.35Dashkalperhaps just once...
23:45.45WobinThen he'd have plenty of 'blue food'
23:45.49[eu]gundersnails is actually quite good, it taste more of garlic than other thing
23:46.00Wobin[eu]gunder: I'd prefer to eat the garlic =P
23:46.11Dashkal[eu]gunder: That's what I hear.  Hence the willingness to give it a shot
23:46.20Pkekyo|well, I fucking hate garlic as well, so meh :>
23:46.26charonor do it the mathematician's way and define inside as outside and blue as green
23:46.32WobinIs that a natural garlic flavour
23:46.34Wobinor what it's cooked in?
23:46.44Wobincause both are freaky =P
23:46.53[eu]gunderit's cooked with garlic
23:46.53Pkekyo|I'm guessing cooked in
23:46.56[eu]gundergarlic-butter to be precise
23:47.02Pkekyo|bet your arse if you go out in your garden and eat a snail it won't taste like garlic
23:47.04Brunershow can you link spells from a boss in chat?
23:47.08DashkalSo is blue corn the only "common" one when excluding blueberries?
23:47.20[eu]gunderyou don't eat them raw yek
23:47.20Wobinpft, majority of the foods that require so much condiment that it only tastes of condiment are not good foods =P
23:47.21DashkalBruners: I use MobSpells to capture the links
23:47.26WobinAside from tofu
23:47.39[eu]gunderwell tofu has no taste
23:47.49Chauda taste of bad
23:47.49Wobinyes, thus the requirement for sauce/etc
23:47.51Pkekyo|Dashkal: I've never seen blue corn, so can't vouch for it...
23:48.04Wobinbut it's definitely a 'good' food
23:48.12NivFreakPkekyo|: blue jello
23:48.17DashkalBruners: An alternative is to nab the link off of wowhead
23:48.17WobinNivFreak: natural =P
23:48.27NivFreaktaro
23:48.30Wobinpurple
23:48.44BrunersDashkal: and how do i link it in chat from wowhead?
23:48.49Pkekyo|NivFreak: ok, I'll accept that...when you show me the blue jello tree
23:48.54Dashkalexample: http://wowhead.com/?spell=37057
23:48.57Dashkalclick "get link"
23:49.01WobinBruners: There's a button to get a link
23:49.09Dashkalit'll give you a box with text to copy.  paste it into the chat box in wow and it'll cough up a link
23:49.31Brunerscool
23:49.33NivFreakPkekyo|: taro
23:49.40NivFreakPkekyo|: taro bread even
23:49.47DashkalBut mobspells is a bit simpler if you can fight the mob in question
23:50.00Pkekyo|NivFreak: what is it?
23:50.30Wobintaro is still purple
23:50.36DashkalAntiarc: Thank you so much for that mod.  It's so nice to be able to say "Netherspite casts [Netherbreath] while banished"
23:51.49NivFreakdoes it need to be entirely blue?
23:51.54NivFreakor just contain blue
23:51.58Pkekyo|entirely blue
23:52.06Pkekyo|a naturally, entirely blue food
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23:52.31NivFreakbacteria!
23:52.49Pkekyo|huh, you'd imagine blue corn would equal blue popcorn...oh well *shrugs*
23:52.51WobinOM NOMNOMNOM
23:53.01NivFreakanyway
23:53.05NivFreakstop listening to george carlin
23:53.05Pkekyo|NivFreak: you don't feed off bacteria. if you do, go see a fucking doctor
23:53.08NivFreakand you'll be fine
23:53.11Pkekyo|nevar
23:53.48Pkekyo|imagines blue popcorn would scare the living crap outta health authorities
23:54.00NivFreakraw blue crab
23:54.22AntiarcDashkal: Which, MobSpells?
23:54.28Dashkal*nods*
23:55.08Pkekyo|NivFreak: not entirely blue though? but more importantly...does people even eat it?
23:55.22AntiarcGlad you like it :)
23:55.29DashkalIt seems to sink in better that spell X will one-shot you when the game tells them instead of us
23:56.06Wobinpft
23:56.06Pkekyo|http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0005/117473/blue-crab.jpg blue crabs ftw? :P (yes, I know there are pictures of far bluer crabs on ebay)
23:56.09Pkekyo|s/ebay/google/
23:56.35Pkekyo|just realized he spends way much time burning through his credit cards on ebay...
23:56.55Wobinentirely blue?
23:56.58WobinNow you're being picky
23:57.07Pkekyo|Wobin: well, duh ;>
23:57.10Pkekyo|I wanna win! :p
23:57.12WobinI advise you wear glasses with blue cellophane on them
23:57.18WobinThen EVERYTHING will be blue
23:57.22stesmiHm, in bugsack, what's the first argument number according to bugsack ? 1 ? 2 ?
23:57.22Wobinand you can finally eat
23:57.30DashkalI can't actually think of many foods that if taken strictly are entirely one colour
23:57.40Wobinmilk
23:57.41Pkekyo|Wobin: lies...it'll distort loads of colors, but won't make them proper blue
23:57.46Dashkalcows are brown
23:57.52WobinPkekyo|: Now, it's "Proper" blue?
23:57.56WobinWhat is "Proper" blue?
23:57.57Pkekyo|meat is brown, aye
23:58.02Wobinmeat is red
23:58.03Wobinor white
23:58.09Wobinor pink
23:58.15DashkalIt's pretty brown by the time I'm done with it :p
23:58.24WobinDashkal: You're cooking it too much =P
23:58.26Dashkalunless it's beef.  rare = win
23:58.29Pkekyo|meat gushing with blood = red
23:58.29Pkekyo|meat = brown
23:58.29Pkekyo|fish/birdies = white
23:58.31stesmior green if you let it stand for way too long
23:58.34NivFreakhttp://www.felcopruners.net/images/Corn%20Navajo%20Colorado%20Blue.jpg
23:58.39Chaudrofl, http://digg.com/baseball/Digg_users_unite_Let_s_Rickroll_the_NY_Mets_all_year
23:58.39NivFreaklooks pretty blue to me
23:58.41Pkekyo|nah, a beef should be bloody as a motherfucker
23:58.57Pkekyo|NivFreak: granted...but where the fuck is the blue popcorn? :p
23:59.11DashkalSides, it isn't red all the way through.  Gristle -> white, bone -> white/grey
23:59.18NivFreaknot all corn becomes popcorn
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23:59.39NivFreakalso, there are a few different types of grapes and low-bush berries that are blue/black in color
23:59.43Pkekyo|NivFreak: well, it fucking should...keep health authorities on their toes :>

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