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00:01.11*** join/#wowace doc^bla (n=Miranda@d028198.adsl.hansenet.de)
00:01.11Gngskstill getting the unitisunit error when you try to request a threat clear too
00:01.52doc^blacan i swap people in raidgroups with lua/makros?
00:01.59Gngskonly if you're not in combat
00:05.23CIA-903adirelle * r67193 10GridAutoFrameSize/GridAutoFrameSize.lua:
00:05.23CIA-9GridAutoFrameSize :
00:05.23CIA-9- tidied the code,
00:05.23CIA-9- make it work for any language.
00:05.24CIA-903pettigrow * r67194 10BigWigs_AQ20/ (7 files): BigWigs_AQ20: frFR Update
00:05.29Gngskhmm, you might not even be able to do it in that case anymore
00:05.57Gngskwait, nah, you can
00:06.04GngskI was being dumb
00:07.09Random2Wish there was an option to go back to the old combat log. :][
00:08.47NivFreakI miss simplecombatlog
00:08.52Flisheranyone ever heard of wowmatrix downloader? is that a trojan/scam or a true thing?  
00:08.52Gngskdoc^bla, here's a simple swap I use sometimes in raids http://gngsk.pastey.net/84761
00:09.16doc^blathx, i'll try
00:11.19vulture-Random2: yeah, thats why I made my combatlog after old combatlog
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00:13.12Viper_0000does anyone know of a way to save action bars locally? i have access to my IRL friend's accounts, but i dont wunna piss em off
00:13.29zaplTekkub: arrr, tourguide needs a no guide selected option
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00:14.32GnarfozViper_0000: there's an addon that's supposed to do that... ActionBarSaver or whatever
00:14.40Gnarfozit's on wowi, by shadowed if I'm not mistaken
00:14.58Arrowmaster15% illidan wipe
00:15.10Wogroipl_Flisher, it's real as far as I know, at least it updated my addons before the stole my credit card number. (if they did that)
00:15.17p3limhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8560-pRogue.html
00:15.17sacarascViper_0000: just change them back after editing them or don't edit them at all
00:15.21p3limthere you have my outcome
00:15.33Wogroipl_the only problem is that it can't update without externals
00:18.29GngskViper_0000, you could just use spellbinder and bind straight to the abilities
00:19.00ArrowmasterViper_0000: you could use a bar mod that doesnt use the default action ids
00:19.10Arrowmasteri think infinitybars does it
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00:22.28KuraxTekkub: Which memory size after the addon name in Warmup is after GC'ed?
00:23.07Tekkubfirst is used, second is what was GC'd (wasted)
00:23.21KuraxI see
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00:24.42CIA-903funkydude * r67195 10BigWigs/TheEye/Reaver.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Reaver: Tweak
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00:24.47zaplTekkub: and tourguide needs a reset guide option as well... I clicked all quests in the last guide to be finished to see if that hides the small window but now I cant revert that and the window shows no guide selected. me wants to hide that thing if I dont do quests atm
00:25.24kenlyriczapl: right click on the guide name, reset guide
00:26.40zaplkenlyric: does not work :( i cant select that last guide anymore
00:26.49kenlyricI know
00:27.03kenlyricyou right click on the name and can reset it
00:28.00zaplwhere? in blizz addon config frame?
00:28.22kenlyricin the tourguide config window, where you select guides
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00:30.46CIA-903chuanhsing * r67196 10WitchHunt/locales/zhTW.lua: WitchHunt: update zhTW (thanks forfan)
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00:34.14zaplkenlyric: when i rightclick the small single line window for guides < 100% I get that tg window showing all the steps of that guide where it is possible to remove steps one by one. but i cant select the 100% guide (small window say "no guide selected") > blizz addon config opens
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00:34.42kenlyricwherever the list of guides is
00:34.48kenlyriccertainly you're able to find that.
00:35.26kenlyricisn't there a list on the left that says profiles and config?
00:35.29CIA-903chuanhsing * r67197 10IHML/locales/ (locale-zhTW.lua locales.xml):
00:35.29CIA-9IHML:
00:35.29CIA-9- update zhTW (thanks Tranquil)
00:35.59zaplsince 2.4 inside that blizz thing, no profile stuff. no slashcommand etc as far as i can see
00:37.00zapldeleting saved vars will help but its kind of a bug :D
00:37.27kenlyricI know I just did this a couple days ago.
00:37.42kenlyricbut I can't help, no access to wow
00:37.49CIA-903chuanhsing * r67198 10FishermansFriend/ (FishermansFriend.toc locales/zhTW.lua): FishermansFriend: update zhTW (thanks forfan)
00:38.24zaplhmm ill try it with another guide maybe it works
00:38.44FlisherThe Recount expert coder are Elisia and Crytec?
00:39.19kenlyricwhat do you mean with another guide?
00:39.27kenlyrichow are you able to select another guide?
00:40.46kenlyricif you can see the guide list, you should be able to right click on the 100% guide
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00:44.29zaplclicking that guide does nothing > http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9196/wowscrnshot033108024125fw7.jpg
00:45.08ZealotOnAStickFunkeh`: ping
00:45.12ZealotOnAStickammo: ping
00:45.16Funkeh`yus
00:45.20NeoTronFunkeh`: any way to make a bigwigs plugin trigger the Shake addon for someone else without them having the same plugin installed?
00:45.39ZealotOnAStickRequest for Bigwigs for Kalecgos mod: a leetle box that displays Dragon's health, Demon's health.
00:45.50NeoTronthat'd be nice
00:45.52Funkeh`NeoTron, nope
00:46.04NeoTronok
00:46.46Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick, heh, we're thinking of something generic like that for bw3
00:46.56Funkeh`so will be leaving that at the moment
00:46.57ArrowmasterFunkeh`: possible fun but defaulted off feature you could add to illidan module, i keep seeing "Blaze fades from Blaze" in witchhunt, make a timer until all blazes fades that resets everytime a new blaze is cast
00:47.13ZealotOnAStickwell, eta on BW3 then?  It'd be nice to have it on BW2 now as we're trying to kill the fucker.
00:47.35Funkeh`no eta
00:47.44Funkeh`use ven ttill then ;p
00:47.55venuse me?
00:48.01Funkeh`vent
00:48.15Funkeh`I can't even typo anymore without it being someones nick
00:49.22Funkeh`Arrowmaster, hmm, /confused why?
00:49.42Arrowmasteri dont know just something interesting that seems possible now that wasnt before
00:49.58Arrowmasteratleast i dont think it was before
00:50.01Funkeh`yeah but what exactly is that
00:50.20Arrowmasterthe green fires in phase2 that stick around for a while in phase3
00:50.38Funkeh`and the timer is?
00:50.41Arrowmasternot sure
00:50.54Funkeh`Arrowmaster, mauybe you should make a transcript... ;p
00:51.01Arrowmasteri am
00:51.05Arrowmasterwere still wiping
00:51.06Funkeh`cool
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00:51.13Funkeh`not at you wiping lol
00:51.34Arrowmasterwe got to 15%
00:51.45Arrowmasterwe've never killed him before
00:52.53ZealotOnAStickFunkeh`, you're to be informed you suck for not giving us the little useful tool.  :/
00:53.02Viper_0000lol where would i find infinitybars
00:53.04Viper_0000im googling
00:53.11Funkeh`ZealotOnAStick, lol
00:55.11ArrowmasterViper_0000: its on wowace, not sure of the name though
00:55.30Viper_0000found it
00:55.34Viper_0000it's got a different name
00:55.36Viper_0000InfiniBar
00:55.40Viper_0000than what someoen told me
00:55.53Viper_0000may be exactly what im looking for though
00:56.04Viper_0000to solve my custom action bars w/o pissing off my friends
00:56.19ArrowmasterFunkeh`: a 15% wipe with a trap used should be good enough if i dont get a kill log right?
00:56.32Funkeh`yeah
01:04.14Viper_0000trinitybars would also let met have local action buttons that wouldnt effect the server side saved actionbars?
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01:08.51Arrowmasterlol
01:08.53Arrowmaster21:08:15> +4 Spell Hit Rating and +5 Spell Damage enchant faded [Drade] [Leggings of the Malefic].
01:08.53Arrowmaster21:08:16> [Drade] +12 Spell Damage enchanted [Drade] [Leggings of the Malefic].
01:08.53Arrowmaster21:08:16> +2 Spell Hit Rating enchant faded [Drade] [Leggings of the Malefic].
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01:09.05Arrowmasterthats the socket bonus fading lol
01:09.23Xinhuanhttp://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9156/wowscrnshot101407130246ml3.jpg
01:09.49CivrockZeksie: GrimReaper isn't showing up anymore after the last update.
01:11.29Random2lol
01:11.53durcynArrowmaster: it used to show socket fades for everything in your bank on login
01:12.38AmadeoXinhuan: whoa, looks like sag_ich_nicht's UI :)
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01:14.44mortthose elkbuffbars rock
01:15.01mortmaybe they would look better if theu were even bigger
01:17.29break19mort, so change the size. they're quite customizable
01:18.03mortthat was a reply to [03:09:39] <Xinhuan> http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9156/wowscrnshot101407130246ml3.jpg
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01:19.54QuantumDeltaHOLY CRAP
01:20.21SwimnurdThat UI hurts my eyes so much
01:20.58Xinhuanpro UI ok
01:21.09Xinhuan25 portraits, one for every raid member!
01:21.17QuantumDeltaT_T
01:21.20Recluseeesh, how can you play like that hehe
01:21.33Xinhuana blue posted in response to that UI
01:21.54Cryectthat UI reminds me of stuff I saw for UI screens in MC
01:22.56Hobbywow
01:22.57Hobbymy eyes
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01:24.08Xinhuanhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3405131899&postId=34047356913&sid=1#0
01:24.45Xinhuanreply 17 is lol
01:24.46Kuraxhaha
01:24.51home|prophybuffalo rocks!
01:24.53Xinhuani wasn't even aware there is 3 different threat meters
01:24.59KuraxWhere he put his mouse cursor?
01:26.02AmadeoHis belief is that the cursor is non-essential
01:26.13Xinhuanwell if that UI screenshot is created just for showing
01:26.14Xinhuana point
01:26.21Xinhuanthen doingit at gruul's is a bit at the wrong time ;p
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01:28.37Reclusethose ebb's are evil in that state
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01:31.21doc^blathey are great when used right
01:31.48[VeXeD]are there any mods that show where orbs are going atm?
01:32.07AiianeVR is currently bugged
01:32.12SwimnurdUse your eyes.
01:32.12Aiianethere are no combat log messages for orb casts
01:32.17Aiianeso it's impossible for an addon to do that ATM
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01:33.14[VeXeD]kk some guy on vent just said voidreaver alarm could do it ._. but he sounded retarded so I wasn't sure to believe him
01:33.20Random2orb?
01:33.49Yssaril[VeXeD], it used to but blizz screwed up and forgot to put in a log entry when he targets someone with the orb
01:34.11Cryector maybe they didn't forget?
01:34.24YssarilCryect, they already said they will fix it next patch :P
01:34.32CryectBoo!
01:34.34Random2What's an orb? o_O
01:34.38CryectI was hoping for the conspiracy theory
01:34.38[VeXeD]did they ever fix the mindcontrol bug on the technicians around vr?>
01:34.39Funkeh`haha
01:34.43Funkeh`auto attack on 1
01:34.44YssarilRandom2, ever done voidreaver?
01:34.48Funkeh`in that ui screenie
01:34.53Funkeh`for a druid
01:34.55Funkeh`brilliant
01:34.56Random2Ah, I don't PvE..
01:34.59Random2Except to level. :P
01:35.05Cryecthe might need to stop healing Funkeh` and autoattack instead
01:35.08YssarilRandom2, then don't worry about it
01:35.40KuraxI heard the orbs message is coming back
01:35.53Arrowmasteri still have autoattack on 1 =(
01:35.54KuraxSo every bossmod can works again
01:35.55Funkeh`Cryect, uh, twin teleport in aq40
01:36.01Funkeh`conspiracy done
01:36.03AiianeKurax: it is, but not until blizz patches it
01:36.09YssarilKurax, there never was one but he used to switch targets briefly
01:37.16Aiianehonestly, i sort of wish they'd leave it out
01:37.23Aiianethe fight is so much more fun w/o bossmods
01:38.12KuraxI miss EverQuest =S
01:38.59AmadeoYou miss the EQ that has been gone for many years
01:39.21KuraxYup
01:41.16QuantumDeltahmmmm
01:41.25QuantumDeltanevcairiel you about mate?
01:41.30QuantumDeltaor Antiarc
01:44.30CIA-903kemayo * r67199 10BetterQuest/core.lua: BetterQuest: Hide gametooltip when clicking to remove a quest watch, since it won't trigger the onleave.
01:44.55QuantumDeltaEither way... not seeing any comms on omen2 now with threat r67186
01:45.37ArrowmasterQuantumDelta: works fine for me
01:45.48QuantumDeltawth :<
01:46.09QuantumDeltaI'm getting nothing from my guildie who has the exact same version
01:46.18Recluseebb's look much better like this -> http://i32.tinypic.com/t0k9z6.jpg
01:46.48doc^blais use them like this
01:46.53doc^blai
01:47.04doc^blajust not that small^^
01:47.55doc^blawhich minimap addon is that?
01:48.01CivrockHmm, who's maintaining SpellReminder?
01:48.06Random2Where's her clothes?
01:48.24Recluselol, she's wearing them, they are just skimpy =x
01:48.27CivrockCausing <[2008/03/30 21:36:31-1411-x3]: AceEvent-2.0-66043 (Ace2):369: Usage: PlaySoundFile("soundfile")>, I believe.
01:48.54Reclusedoc^bla: that's Chinchilla with two un-docked fubar floaters and the ebb tracker on top of it
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01:49.43doc^blaah
01:50.02QuantumDeltahttp://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1614/wowscrnshot033008185940sy4.jpg :D
01:50.25QuantumDeltaGonna redo mine a bit after Wednesday (end of raiding 'week')
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01:50.57Reclusecan't wait for parrot to get back again - the bliz default fct blows XD
01:51.08Recluseis that sct?
01:51.15QuantumDeltaMSBT
01:51.19QuantumDeltausing it in parrots absence
01:51.27Reclusenods.
01:51.33break19<3 msbt
01:51.41break19</3 parrot
01:51.58Arrowmasteri so hate that font
01:52.53doc^blai hate ppl who leave everything enabled in their sct-thing ;)
01:53.20QuantumDeltanot everything :P
01:54.09break19http://i28.tinypic.com/654z86.jpg
01:54.11break19mine
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01:56.21break19that pic is a little old tho.. but not much changed, just removed a few addons I decided I no longer needed.
01:57.51JaxonLike mini pictures of the thing you happen to have clicked on?
01:58.04[VeXeD]good god..
01:58.09[VeXeD]raiding on a mage is soooooo boring.
01:58.31Recluselol
01:58.36break19jaxon: yes, actually, I do.. :)
01:58.54[VeXeD]My spell cycle consists of.. Fireballx9 scorchx1, repeat.
01:59.02JaxonYou do what?  Forget what you clicked on int he time it takes your eyes to go from the NPC to your target frame?
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02:00.08break19Jaxon: I like eye candy. sue me
02:00.16break19<- has a mac
02:00.23break19questions answered..
02:00.35durcyn[VeXeD]: you should try raiding on a one-button-warlock.  all dps is boring.
02:00.50Jaxonbreak19: I run on a Mac as well...
02:01.23break19meh, you guys should do it as a bm hunter... spam the hell out of my shot rotation/killcommand macro..
02:01.39break19hand gets tired slamming my '6' key 5x a second..
02:01.58[VeXeD]why woudl you want to be a one button warlock?....
02:01.58Random2Anyone know how much rep you get from Cenarion Expedition quests.. no instances?
02:02.08break19Random2: not enough
02:02.12QuantumDeltaArrowmaster what version of omen2/threat-2.0 are you running?
02:02.13[VeXeD]I mean how?...
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02:02.15keisscheck wowwiki :)
02:02.34[VeXeD]... That's retarded to macro as a warlock ;\
02:02.45[VeXeD]It's easy to dot/spam shadowbolt..
02:03.07break19needs a new mac :?
02:03.18break19I use a ibook. heh
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02:04.15break19if someone would hurry up and buy my friggin house already, we could get ourselves a macpro :)
02:05.25break19if we -dont- sell it soon, we'll have to start sellin everything else. lol
02:05.53ArrowmasterQuantumDelta: "Omen r66676 / Threat-2.0 r67186"
02:06.59drikanjust wanted to report an issue with the recap's reporting to guild or raid it dosent work
02:08.18break19thank god for overtime.. speaking of which, I gotta get up super early tomorrow for work, and wont be home until about 16hours later.. damn training seminars all this week, and I gotta commute 100mi each way all week long.. well, at least its a company vehicle.
02:08.22break19night all
02:08.35Arrowmasterdrikan: i dont even know if recaps author uses irc
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02:09.59drikanwell it was worth a show
02:10.00drikanshot
02:10.14drikanwate
02:10.18drikanim sorry recount
02:10.37CryectElsia, is asleep but I recommend you report it to the forums
02:10.53Arrowmasteroh recount, bug elsia
02:10.53drikanon wowace?
02:11.48drikanwho is elsia
02:12.37`Zypherelsia is the recount developer, she/he took over after the main dude quit
02:12.40QuantumDeltaArrowmaster, do you know why your version would be working when very few other peoples is?
02:12.49`Zypheri thinks
02:12.51`Zypherlol
02:12.57CIA-903funkydude * r67200 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Tweak portals in anticipation blizz fix it sometime, localization needs updating.
02:13.07ArrowmasterQuantumDelta: working for my entire raid
02:13.36drikani must say thow that omen r617186 is rocking
02:14.16drikanits been the first time ive seen our tanks on the single target thret tab
02:14.17Funkeh`wow
02:14.30Funkeh`so we have to wait to 6 digit revision for omen to rock?
02:14.53drikanlol tabing sucks
02:15.03drikan67186
02:15.10Funkeh`:)
02:15.20QuantumDeltaugh
02:15.29QuantumDeltaI have to work out why it's not working for us
02:16.15ArrowmasterQuantumDelta: most my raid has "Omen r66676 / Threat-2.0 r66983", but 3 of us have 67186 and its working fine for all
02:16.15drikanwell all i know is we all updated just befor we ran kara
02:16.20CIA-903kurax * r67201 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhCN.lua: Recount: Update zhCN translations
02:16.27drikanand we could actuly see our thret
02:17.29FroMasterJust did Gruuls with Omen 67166 / Threat 67186 and everything was fine except for one person who had an outdated version.. We made the entire raid upgrade at the same time and everything went well
02:18.00Funkeh`nice
02:18.02Funkeh`good to hear
02:18.06Cryect`Zypher, heh I'm that main dude
02:18.10QuantumDeltaI'm talking about two people using that version though
02:18.20taskulrafdoing Bloodboil right now and Omen was fine on the first attempt but after we wiped the tanks cant see one another on it.  v67186.
02:18.20QuantumDeltaI can only assume another addon is running interference or something ;\
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02:18.51FroMasterOne thing we made sure everyone did was delete their old OMEN directory before installing the new version
02:20.25FroMastertaskulraf: Did you do a version check?
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02:21.40taskulrafFroMaster: a few people have older versions but all of the tanks are running 67186
02:21.55taskulrafas well as most of the rest of the raid
02:22.14CIA-903chuanhsing * r67203 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Brutallus.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW
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02:22.38FroMasterI just did a Gruuls with everyone having 67186 but one person and that one messed us up. Once he left the raid everything was fine
02:22.51taskulrafhmmm
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02:24.25CIA-903chuanhsing * r67204 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: update zhTW
02:24.47Xinhuanhttp://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/drinks/a273/
02:24.49Xinhuanrofl
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02:25.18Gngskthose aren't new, but rofl is definitly in order
02:25.28Zhinjiogood evening.
02:25.36QuantumDeltaEh...
02:25.49CIA-903chuanhsing * r67205 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua:
02:25.49CIA-9Babble-2.2:
02:25.49CIA-9- update zhTW
02:28.13zaplgreen mana pots > fake!
02:28.44Funkeh`that actually looks pretty interesting
02:28.47Funkeh`;p
02:30.22Gngsksylvanaar, ping
02:30.36QuantumDeltastill gettin' nothin off our omen, sigh
02:30.39Zhinjiockknight: ping
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02:30.51QuantumDeltaeven after we both clean installed it
02:31.29smoke_hey is there a mod that removes the red text that says like "you have no target" or "spell is not ready yet" etc. ?
02:31.32QuantumDeltathere's got to be an addon getting in the way
02:31.50sylvanaarGngsk hm?
02:31.55zaplsmoke_: errormonter maybe
02:32.00Arrowmasteri think they nerfed timbals trinket, im casting " |cff71d5ff|Hspell:45055|h[Shadow Bolt]|h|r"
02:32.07zapl~errormonster
02:32.09Reclusesmoke_ should be several out there. hah, was going to say errormonster, beat me to it
02:32.13CIA-903trasher * r67206 10Proximo/locals/localization-frFR.lua:
02:32.13CIA-9Proximo:
02:32.13CIA-9- frFR update
02:32.55CIA-903trasher * r67207 10Capping/locals/localization-frFR.lua:
02:32.55CIA-9Capping:
02:32.55CIA-9- frFR update
02:33.14sylvanaarerrormonster is a mod that removes the red text that says like "you have no target" or "spell is not ready yet" etc
02:33.19zaplbtw.. chinchilla need a movable uierrorsframe :D
02:33.20Gngsksylvanaar, I was wondering if you'd make it so that the copychat window shows up if you click on the chatframe tab with a modifier
02:33.43sylvanaarGngsk you mean instead of the existing buttons?
02:33.47Gngskright
02:33.48Arrowmasterzapl: no it doesnt
02:33.51GngskI don't like those buttons :(
02:33.59Arrowmastersince thats not realated to the minimap
02:34.05Reclusezapl: it's not part of the minimap cluster T_T
02:34.11sylvanaar~errormonster
02:34.24sylvanaari thought she was supposed to listen to the channel too
02:34.28CIA-903trasher * r67208 10OpenAll/OpenAll.toc:
02:34.28CIA-9OpenAll:
02:34.28CIA-9- toc update
02:35.10zaplmeh.. there seems to be no simple mod on teh internets that makes that frame movable
02:35.44Reclusewrite a little script to do it =3
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02:36.09Gngsksylvanaar, thoughts?
02:36.19smoke_so errormonster does that exclusively?
02:36.24zaplrerouted it to parrot via errormonster already ^
02:36.35smoke_it doesnt do anything else? my friend recommeneded me something but it is like too bulk
02:36.36smoke_y
02:36.43sylvanaarGngsk um, well, i dont see why not
02:36.54Groktarwhee
02:36.58hi2uhey, are there any ace2 mods that track cooldowns on spells?
02:37.06Groktarwe just made it 4 minutes on brutallus
02:37.10Gngsksylvanaar, shouldn't be too much trouble, just a simple hook script?
02:38.02sylvanaarGngsk you know you can just use a slash command also
02:38.33[i keep running out of memory after a couple hours play time, how can I figure out which addon is causing the problem?
02:38.54Gngsksylvanaar, yeah I know, I guess I could just setup a macro or something
02:39.33Yssaril[ performancefu or optionhouse
02:39.56hi2udoes anyone know an ace2 addon that tracks cooldowns, like natur enemycastbar?
02:39.57[performancefu doesn't show any specific addon using more than normal when it starts getting low.  currently my usage is 103MB but it says "addon memory is at 55MB" which is what it starts at when i log in
02:40.35Gngsksylvanaar, eh I'll just make my own little addon that calls ScrapeChat
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02:41.16jwwpuai get an error each time I log in, but it doesn't state the addon causing it. how can i troubleshoot this?
02:41.28jwwpua[2008/03/30 21:35:22-316-x1]: <string>:"*:OnEvent":2: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
02:41.35jwwpua<string>:"*:OnEvent":2: in function <[string "*:OnEvent"]:1>
02:42.09QuantumDeltaok...
02:43.15CIA-903trasher * r67209 10CooldownCount/CooldownCount.toc:
02:43.15CIA-9CooldownCount:
02:43.15CIA-9- toc update
02:43.28QuantumDeltaFunkeh` you 'ere?
02:43.37Funkeh`mebe
02:43.38ckknightZhinjio: pong
02:43.54QuantumDeltawanted to bounce an idea that might explain my omen problems but not the other guys
02:44.08QuantumDeltacombat log.....localisations
02:44.26CivrockIs there a way to add a border to the swing bar in Quartz?
02:44.29Funkeh`example?
02:44.32QuantumDeltaI've had a few people on my server do this test with me now
02:44.35QuantumDelta(I'm english)
02:45.07QuantumDeltathe only people i could get display results from so far are other people running the engb client
02:45.25QuantumDelta(though even then they're displaying as 'unknown' but at least the threat values are accurate)
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02:45.36ZhinjioHey Ellipsis
02:46.04Funkeh`is this specific to an encounter?
02:46.14QuantumDeltanope
02:46.16QuantumDeltaeverything
02:46.26QuantumDeltacurrently testing on IoQD mobs
02:46.32Funkeh`uh, wierd
02:46.59sylvanaarGngsk ok, its a good idea though. i'll keep it in mind
02:47.05Funkeh`localization shouldn't really affect it at all
02:47.13QuantumDeltaHumm
02:47.21durcynCOMBATLOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED should never be localized
02:47.24CIA-903trasher * r67210 10CooldownCount/Locale.frFR.lua:
02:47.24CIA-9CooldownCount:
02:47.24CIA-9- frFR update
02:47.28CIA-903trasher * r67212 10PoisonMenu/PoisonMenu.toc:
02:47.28CIA-9PoisonMenu:
02:47.28CIA-9- toc update
02:47.28QuantumDeltait was just a guess anyways
02:47.32CIA-903trasher * r67211 10Mirror/Mirror.toc:
02:47.32CIA-9Mirror:
02:47.33CIA-9- toc update
02:47.43Funkeh`durcyn, uh, some of it's returns are localized
02:47.56durcynwell, spell names i suppose
02:48.26QuantumDeltahmm
02:48.50CIA-903kemayo * r67213 10BetterQuest/core.lua: BetterQuest: Make headers more adaptively sized, in accord with the dominant paradigm.
02:49.05QuantumDeltaWell I'm not really the type to ever want to report a bug without having done some work to see if I can resolve it or at least diagnose it for the coder :<
02:49.09zaplEllipsis / ckknight : allowing rangecheck + combatfade in pitbull at the same time should not be possible imo :)
02:49.26[in performancefu whats the difference between "addon memory" and "total memory"
02:49.29QuantumDeltabut this has me confused since it /seems/ so random
02:50.55[err that would be "current memory" and "total addon memory"... there is no performancefu wiki page
02:52.44Funkeh`[, choose a proper nickname please
02:53.25leftbracket:(
02:53.33Funkeh`thanks
02:53.34sylvanaarlol
02:53.57Arrowmasterwho the fuck is trasher
02:54.05Funkeh`french localizer
02:54.13sylvanaaroui oui
02:54.13zapland cowtip is missing a global background alpha thing. changing 10 background alphas is :(
02:54.22Arrowmasteri swear we should ban localizers from bumping tocs
02:55.00Arrowmastersince most of them dont know shit about lua and cant be trusted as a good judgement on if a mod is compatible
02:55.08zaplsame for pitbull, a global alpha multiplier would be nice
02:55.48DiaoAntiarc
02:55.54Diaois there an option in omen2 for disable warnings while tanking
02:56.33Aiianesomeone have a link to the mbst page? dont remember where it is
02:56.42doc^blai get a warning everytime the boss turns to someone and uses an ability (not while tanking)
02:57.12Arrowmasterknown issue
02:57.16QuantumDeltagoogle MikScrollingBattleText Aiiane
02:57.18Diaothe old omen had a disable warnings while tanking mode
02:57.20Aiianethanks diao
02:57.21Diaonow it doesn't :(
02:57.23Aiianedidnt have the exact name
02:57.23Arrowmaster~msbt
02:57.24purlmsbt is probably Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html
02:57.27Aiianeand "mbst" doesnt google well :P
02:57.34QuantumDeltahmm handy bot
02:57.59Funkeh`~bigwigs
02:58.00purlwell, bigwigs is a World of Warcraft AddOn that provides oodles of boss alerts and is highly configurable, available at http://files.wowace.com/
02:58.12Funkeh`meh
02:58.17QuantumDeltahehe
02:58.23Arrowmasterchange it to the B page atleast
02:58.27Aiianehad been using sct, but sct_spellready hasn't been updated in forever and core sct doesnt have the option for it, and there are some issues with it now :x
02:58.34sylvanaar~emulate Funkeh`
02:58.51Funkeh`pewpew
02:58.57Funkeh`~fail sylvanaar
02:58.58purlsylvanaar: FAIL!
03:00.17sylvanaarfails
03:00.36Funkeh`time for sleep
03:01.49durcynFunkeh`: can has initial gas nova timer for felmyst?
03:02.25QuantumDeltammm
03:02.34QuantumDeltaguess i'll try catch up with Antiarc another day
03:02.52QuantumDelta<3 you lot
03:04.14sylvanaar~emulate sag_ich_nicht
03:04.15purlbecause i am retarded
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03:04.20Kuraxhaha
03:04.25Recluselol
03:05.26Zhinjiohuh.
03:05.51ZhinjioI'm almost afraid to see what it has to say about me.
03:06.04Seerahokay, that made me laugh, sylv :)
03:06.07Seerahty :)
03:06.19sylvanaarlol, sag_ich_nicht is a big target
03:06.23Seerahperhaps nothing, Zhinjio
03:06.29Seerah~emulate Zhinjio
03:06.43ZhinjioI'm too boring.
03:06.44Zhinjioheh
03:06.49Seerah~emulate Seerah
03:07.04Seerahyeah, didn't think so :)
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03:07.35Kurax~emulate purl
03:07.36purlI shall not be ignored!
03:08.57JJSheets~emulate sag_ich_nicht
03:08.58purlbecause i am retarded
03:09.04Funkeh`durcyn, 20 seconds?
03:09.05JJSheetsThat is comic genius.
03:09.18sylvanaaryou know, it was already there
03:09.21durcynFunkeh`: nevermind, he just waited until after first encapsulate to use it
03:09.23JJSheetsamazing
03:09.36JJSheets~emulate jjsheets
03:09.40JJSheetsbah.
03:09.52KuraxOnly a few in its db I guess
03:09.57hi2uanyone know why half of my fonts on prat would suddenly disappear? :(
03:10.00KuraxBut this one is for sure
03:10.06Kurax~emulate ckknight
03:10.07purlYou know why? Because you touch yourself at night
03:10.09sylvanaar~emulate Thrae
03:10.09purlI just learned how to divide by 0! Finally, I can get some action...
03:10.11JJSheetslmao
03:11.13sylvanaari deleted mine - they were making fun of my emo-ness
03:11.21hi2uanyone know why half of my fonts on prat would suddenly disappear? :(
03:12.05sylvanaarhi2u did you retype that by hand?
03:12.05hi2uno I pressed the up arrow
03:12.42Godzmackhmm anyone here that uses ManufacSnoop?
03:13.43sylvanaarhi2u restart your game, update, etc
03:15.12Fisker-1+1 ) 2
03:15.17Fisker-1+1 = 2
03:17.10NeoTronhow can I get a list of tanks from oRA2?
03:17.25sylvanaar~emulate Fisker-
03:17.25purlmethinks emulate fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER
03:17.57Zhinjiowow.
03:18.01sylvanaaranother good one
03:18.42Estillol
03:26.11ArrowmasterFunkeh`: transcriptor is using 73mb of memory omg fix it
03:28.59Zhinjiohory kurapo. thats alot.
03:29.09ZhinjioI get cranky when something uses more than 1m
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03:29.29Arrowmasterdo you know why its using that much?
03:31.18hypetechit's because the combat logs are about that size now
03:31.27Arrowmasterexactly
03:31.33hypetechMy last log from the 4 hyjal bosses and attempts on Archi was 82MB
03:31.45Arrowmasterand opening a 90mb txt file in notepad is a bad idea
03:31.56Jaxonvim
03:31.59hypetechget Notepad++ it handles large text files wonderfully
03:32.02Arrowmasterscite
03:32.25Zhinjioeditplus. *shrug*
03:32.30Arrowmasterlol http://i28.tinypic.com/2mdgm7c.jpg
03:32.54Godzmackhaha
03:32.56ArrowmasterSciTE > *
03:33.03Fisker-does not hypetech
03:33.08Fisker-it handles large text files awfully
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03:33.33hypetechFisker-: works fine for me, opens my 90+ MB log files and edits them without any "lag"
03:33.42Arrowmasteralthough if i could drag and drop tabs like in firefox SciTE would be even better
03:34.02Fisker-hypetech 90MB isn\t big
03:34.05Fisker-isn't*
03:34.16Fisker-Mine crashes at a couple of 100 MB
03:34.27hypetechwell it handles them a lot better than notepad
03:35.01Fisker-it loads faster atleast
03:35.29Zhinjioit crashes faster!
03:35.33hypetecheven when you try to make a change to anything in notepad it takes forever
03:37.15KuraxEmEditor ftw
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03:38.50NightHawkTheSanesylvanaar: did your modifications to WIM ever make it into the actual release version? or is there still a version on the svn somewhere i should grab?
03:39.51Andunedoes WIM have single-window multiple tabs now, ala pidgin, or is it still multiple chat windows?
03:40.17NightHawkTheSanei dont know
03:42.37HobbyAndune: it's had both for a while
03:42.42Hobbyoption in the config
03:45.04CIA-903kemayo * r67214 10BetterQuest/ (config.lua core.lua): BetterQuest: Make tag filter a multiselect, so you can filter on multiple tags at once. (i.e. "this tracker contains group + dungeon + heroic")
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03:46.34Andunehobby:  ty.  its been a while since i looked.  I'll check it out again.
03:49.59Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640645008&sid=1&pageNo=1 lol
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03:51.30CivrockSo, my Omen is showing nobody on Illidan, Single Target mode.
03:52.54CIA-903apoco * r67215 10RBM_BlackTemple/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
03:52.54CIA-9RBM_BlackTemple:
03:52.54CIA-9- Many fixes. All bosses work as intended. (Tested 03-30-08)
03:54.43sag_ich_nichtAntiarc you there?
03:56.02CIA-903bam * r67216 10MouseLook/ (Bindings.xml MouseLook.lua):
03:56.02CIA-9MouseLook:
03:56.02CIA-9- Added a "momentary" binding toggle that turns mouselook ON on mouse-down and OFF on mouse-up.
03:56.44ApocoCivrock:  You can't count on omen, but if you clear target and retarget the threat will show
03:56.54Apocobut it does not clear threat for stages or anything
03:56.57ApocoJust did him.
03:59.04sag_ich_nicht[02:08] <NivFreak> I miss simplecombatlog <--i wrote a replacment already :P
03:59.15sag_ich_nichtbut you'll have to agree to my licensing terms to use it
03:59.16sag_ich_nicht!
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03:59.59WillJitsuis anyone having trouble with Omen only displaying some members' threat?
04:00.49CIA-903brimm * r67217 10MyThreat/MyThreat.toc:
04:00.49CIA-9MyThreat:
04:00.49CIA-9-Added Omen to the OptionalDeps so MyThreat uses the same Threat-2.0 lib as Omen if player is running Omen.
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04:02.12WillJitsushould I have threat-1.0 and threat-2.0 installed?
04:02.19JaxonProbably not.
04:02.47WillJitsuso is MyThreat another addon like Omen or is that a library?
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04:03.02KnaledgeXinhuan
04:03.11Xinhuan?
04:03.21KnaledgeWoWEquip is not showing the proper stats for a rogue I am inspecting
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04:03.29Xinhuancopy again
04:03.30RecluseWillJitsu: Omen2 is the monitor, Threat-2.0 is the library
04:03.33Knaledgehe has 2038 atp unbuffed
04:03.42Knaledgebut it's showing "1482"
04:03.49KnaledgeYeah, I copied him like 8 times
04:03.54Knaledgeit just refreshes the list of stats
04:03.58Knaledgeand it doesn't change anything
04:04.34Xinhuanwell what is missing?
04:04.37Knaledgeand his chance to crit is wrong
04:04.39Knaledgeer...
04:04.43Knaledgeabout 600 atp?
04:04.47Xinhuanyeah from what?
04:04.52JaxonBuffs?
04:04.55Knaledgeno
04:04.56Xinhuantelling me "something is wrong" isn't very useful
04:05.06Xinhuango find out what gear is causing the difference
04:05.15KnaledgeHow do you mean?
04:05.20KnaledgeI'm inspecting him
04:05.26Knaledgehe has 2083 unbuffed atp
04:05.26Xinhuani mean exactly what i said
04:05.30Xinhuanhave him go naked
04:05.32Knaledgeand it shows as 1482
04:05.35Xinhuanput on one gear at a time
04:05.38Xinhuanand check the numbers
04:05.47Xinhuanuntil you find the gear that is giving incorrect numbers
04:06.56Recluseoh, i found out what was wrong with wowequip when i was using it the other night - is there a place you take bug reports aside from here, xinhuan?
04:07.07Xinhuanwhat was wrong
04:07.20Xinhuantbh, wowequip is just a front end
04:07.28Xinhuanall the calculations is done by itembonuslib
04:07.31Xinhuanby Jerry
04:07.42Xinhuanso if anything is wrong, it isn't really my issue
04:07.43RecluseSome of the warlock talents were not being considered, such as Fel Intellect
04:08.08Xinhuani can't consider a talent that isn't active half the time
04:08.14Xinhuansuch as when u have no pet
04:08.30Recluseah, i see then
04:09.00Reclusei assumed they just got overlooked :p
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04:23.30Killmore2I hate this game, 2 wipe at 1% on brutallus :(
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04:23.46SwimnurdThat happened to us 6 times this evening
04:23.51Fisker-fuckers :I
04:23.55SwimnurdI am sick of that damn boss
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04:25.54Fisker-<-sick of idiots who ninja the cells why i clear to them
04:26.05Fisker-happens every fucking time
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04:26.27Fisker-not doing that daily again after the portal have been complete
04:26.29Fisker-+d
04:27.03kebinusanAntiarc: Im getting an error still with threat-2.0 and soulshatter on my lock http://ace.pastey.net/84782
04:27.08Fisker-griefing like that should just be against the policies :<
04:27.12statueCan I get a quest id WOW API now ?
04:27.20Fisker-he even came over to me and /rofled
04:27.45hi2udoes anyone know how to set up natur enemycastbar to show cooldowns?
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04:29.12statuei got it, questLink = GetQuestLink(questLogId);
04:32.11kebinusanIf anyone online does anything with clearfont2, [2008/03/31 00:31:27-1240-x2]: <event>ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'ClearFont2' tried to call the protected function 'LFGQuery()'.
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04:33.03Fisker-slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout
04:33.28Ellipsisno u
04:33.42kebinusan~whaleparry Fisker-
04:33.43purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Fisker-'s attacks.
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04:36.31Fisker-no u Ellipsis :(
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04:39.04Fisker-woo
04:39.26Fisker-bombing run = ez when you are the only one there :D
04:39.59EllipsisFisker-: if you really wanna troutslap me like that, let me go put on my robe and wizard hat
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04:40.39Fisker-yes!
04:41.16Fisker-bai tiem though
04:41.19Fisker-i has work
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04:44.58dylanmhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12371.0;topicseen
04:45.10dylanmI feel like that dumb definition of insanity may actually apply here.
04:45.39ZealotOnAStickOk, so who can tell me why that today, something I updated has SML using addons no longer seeing ClearFont2's fonts?
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04:46.47Arrowmasterwhat SML does clearfont2 use?
04:47.16phanxIt will use LSM-3.0, LSM-2.0, or SML-1.0, whichever it finds first in that order.
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04:48.11Arrowmasterwhat does it register its fonts to? if it finds LSM-3.0 will it still reg its fonts to LSM-2.0 if it exists?
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04:48.37Arrowmasterand what if it loads before any of those load?
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04:52.51Arrowmasterlol
04:52.54Arrowmaster[2008/03/31 00:52:14-2908-x1]: constant table overflow:
04:53.03Arrowmasteron login, thats the full debugstack
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04:59.17CIA-903daviesh * r67218 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua:
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05:00.33phanxArrowmaster: no, it registers only with the first one it finds
05:00.52sag_ich_nichtanyone here who is AWESOME at html?
05:00.55phanxbut I think they're all in OptDeps so they should load before it if they exist
05:01.01phanxsag_ich_nicht: maybe, why?
05:01.11sag_ich_nichtphanx: well
05:01.41sag_ich_nichtphanx: it has to do something with word XP, my ex-gf, her deadline, and me being a dumbass and you're not going to like it :P
05:02.00Arrowmasterphanx: not if they are embeded
05:02.14sag_ich_nicht(and the fact that she's too stupid to use HTML and i don't have the time to rewrite the whole damn thing in proper HTML 4.01)
05:03.19Arrowmasteryou mean xhtml 1.0 right?
05:03.24phanxArrowmaster: oh, true... I guess it doesn't register with any of them then, since the SML registry is done OnInitialize
05:03.38dylanmThe HTML that Word spits out is incredible.
05:03.38phanxI hope he means xhtml anything... html 4.01 is about 500 years old :(
05:04.32Arrowmasterofftopic but i hate this html5 movement, all the ideas behind xhtml2 sound so much better
05:04.39sag_ich_nichtphanx: i hope you die in hell because you don't know that apache doesn't properly provide XHTML MIME types to webbrowsers thus making HTML 4.01 superior
05:04.40sag_ich_nichtBUT anyway
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05:04.49sag_ich_nichtalso i hope YOU die in hell too Arrowmaster
05:04.50sag_ich_nichtanyway
05:04.53phanx...
05:04.54sag_ich_nichtit's using VML.
05:05.00Diaohmm
05:05.06Arrowmasteryour apache fails
05:05.09Diaoomen2 missing some features of omen or am i just not seeing them
05:05.18Arrowmasteryeah its missing some
05:05.19dylanmDiao: It's a work in progress.
05:05.21sag_ich_nichti need to convert the damn VML into proper stuff quickly
05:05.23phanxYeah, it's pretty easy to configure Apache to send the right mine-type...
05:05.25dylanmNo pull-outs or anything.
05:05.28Diaoah ok
05:05.29dylanmArrowmaster: Huh? What's there to hate about HTML5.
05:05.29phanxmime*
05:05.31Diaowell i was thinking more like
05:05.42Diaothreat reset option for RL/RA, disable warnings while tanking mode
05:05.57Arrowmasterdylanm: for 1 its being designed for webapps primarily
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05:06.15Arrowmasterand everything is about looks not functionality
05:06.35Arrowmasteri bet we never see a texted based browser that supports html5
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05:06.51Arrowmasterand if we do most html5 stuff wont work properly in it
05:07.37Swimnurd|LaptopAs much as I love w3m and lynx, I don't think the majority of web designers are writing for them anyway
05:08.42Arrowmasterthats true
05:09.55Arrowmasterbut html is a markup language not a programing language, it should be data in tags, nothing at all with layout
05:10.31dylanmThat's what CSS is for. I agree.
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05:11.03Swimnurd|Laptopyes
05:11.04Arrowmasteryet html5 being designed primarily for webapps tells me that its going to be full of layout crap
05:11.11dylanmCould you give an example of where HTML5 is presentational? I haven't read the spec in a year or so.
05:11.53Arrowmasteri havent read the spec, just the arguements between html5 and xhtml2
05:12.01dylanmI see the same ideas with respect to content organization that XHTML2 has.
05:12.15dylanmBah, I can't stand reading most of those.
05:12.22dylanmIt's a little too serious.
05:12.32Arrowmasterand whoever decided they could take html5 and make it work with xml and all it xhtml5 should be shot
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05:13.24Arrowmasternot for the idea but the name
05:13.45ZhinjioGood evening, Ellipsis
05:14.00Arrowmasterdylanm: are you actually looking at the purposed html5 spec?
05:14.23dylanmI am reading it again as we talk, yes. I didn't know they were keeping some of this stuff in.
05:14.45dylanmI'm a big fan of Hickson but eh
05:14.48Arrowmasterthey doing the img change in html5 too?
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05:14.52CIA-9- Update zhTW localization.
05:14.53Arrowmasterthat theyre doing with xhtml2?
05:14.58dylanmThis has to be better than XForms though.
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05:15.43Arrowmasteri never looked at xforms
05:16.06Arrowmasterbut i love the idea to ditch the img tag with xhtml2
05:16.42Yssarildidn't they enable us to get at GUID for quests too? (if so how do i get at them?)
05:17.07Arrowmasterquest id
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05:19.02CIA-903ananhaid * r67220 10BigWigs_KalecgosPortals/ (BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.lua BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.toc):
05:19.02CIA-9BigWigs_KalecgosPortals:
05:19.02CIA-9- zhCN update.
05:19.07YssarilArrowmaster, and how do i optain the id?
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05:19.28Arrowmastertheres a function that gets the questlink for quests in your combatlog
05:19.35Arrowmaster~framexml
05:19.35purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/
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05:19.47Arrowmasterlook at the diffs for the questframe
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05:21.07Arrowmasterso pissed they hotfix nerfed Timbal's Focusing Crystal
05:21.33phanxwas that the "do more damage when a dot ticks" one?
05:21.41Arrowmasteryeah
05:22.09Arrowmasterlastnight it was triggering a spell that was effected by +dmg with some name i cant remember
05:22.22Arrowmasterthat was hitting for over 900 for me
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05:22.38kebinusanArrowmaster: damn too bad it hasnt dropped for me
05:22.39Arrowmasternow its procing some version of shadowbolt
05:22.51Arrowmasterthat does exactly the amount of damage listed
05:22.57kebinusanI noticed though that you can use the new jewelcrafter trinkets in arenas
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05:28.02YssarilArrowmaster, thanks :)
05:28.31Arrowmasterhmm not sure but i think this shadowbolt might be getting effected by shadow mastery
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05:29.15Arrowmasteri swear though if i ever find it stealing my nightfall procs ill kill somebody
05:29.58Ellipsiswho's stealing mah procs?
05:30.15Arrowmasterfucking moron alliance
05:30.30Arrowmasterfuckers gank me while im doing the damn bash'ir quest
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05:30.59Arrowmasterhow long is the alliance flight from IF to sunwell?
05:31.07Swimnurd|Laptopabout 4 min
05:31.17Arrowmasterthats what i thought
05:31.28Arrowmasteri think the horde one is 3 minutes if i remember right
05:31.34quiescenswhat you do is fly from sunwell to booty bay
05:31.47Swimnurd|Laptopon the PTR it was about 22 min from IF
05:31.55Olison1:40
05:32.08Arrowmaster1:40?
05:32.12ArrowmasterIF to sunwell?
05:32.14Swimnurd|Laptopreally?
05:32.16Swimnurd|Laptopit is that fast?
05:32.20Groktarya
05:32.20OlisonMmm!
05:32.23Arrowmasterbastards
05:32.27Olison:D
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05:32.29Swimnurd|Laptophaha
05:32.51Arrowmasterand here i was thinking they still had the longer flight time so they should be the ones wanting the portal to go up even faster
05:33.07Groktarit ports you from just outside IF to over the water on the south side of the island
05:33.21Swimnurd|Laptopwith the changes the only real advantage of the portal is the free port back to shat
05:33.35OlisonWhen you fly back, however, it doesn't port...
05:33.41Groktarew
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05:33.46chiperthat flight back to IF from the island is a real bitch tho
05:33.50Groktaromg
05:33.52Olisonfwaps Teza
05:33.53Swimnurd|LaptopBT neck :-P
05:33.54Olisonhey :D
05:33.57chiperthat's a good 15 minute flight
05:33.59Groktarso i just repaired after sunwell raid
05:34.03Groktar150g for the night
05:34.04GroktaroO
05:34.04Tezaheh wrong name >_<
05:34.17Olison:P
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05:34.52Arrowmastersilvermoon is going to be so popular once theres a portal to shatt just 3 minutes away
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05:37.13Arrowmasteri hope they make the alliance fp full lenght once the portal goes up
05:37.33Swimnurd|LaptopBlizz would do that
05:37.49Arrowmasterso nobody abuses it to get shorter flights to stuff near sunwell
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05:38.54ncd|Aileenhehe Groktar
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05:39.05ncd|AileenI paid about 350 for 2 days of wiping to
05:39.08ncd|Aileen*too
05:39.23ncd|Aileengood luck there is guild repair enabled for 200g/day during raids 8)
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05:41.05Orionshockwhat's the alt code for a line return? anyone?
05:42.38Arrowmaster\n
05:43.34Orionshockthat won't work
05:43.59Orionshockim using notepad++ to sperate out a single line into a bunch of them
05:44.23durcynnotepad++ is dumb when finding\replacing tabs and newlines, just copy one into its find box
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05:44.36CIA-9- zhCN update.
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05:44.46CIA-9- zhCN update.
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05:45.26Orionshocknot working :(
05:45.44vithosOrionshock: use the TextFX plugin Find/Replace
05:45.48vithosCtrl+R
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05:53.04NivFreakomg
05:53.11NivFreakthreatlib/omen are TOTALLY fucked on leo
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05:53.16NivFreakwhat can I capture to help debuf
05:53.34Yasuohello and good morning
05:53.50AiianeNivFreak: combatlog
05:53.56NivFreakthat's all?
05:54.05Aiianethat's the most useful
05:54.20Yasuosince im using bongos2 instead ob ct_barmod there are no big cooldown timers over the buttons, how do i get em back?
05:54.27Aiianescreenshots of anything truly odd might be useful i suppose, would have to ask Antiarc about that
05:54.42AiianeYasuo: use something like OmniCC?
05:54.43Arrowmasterfuck now i need to update wow on my moms laptop do i can dual box to bring my friends priest out to res myself since i cant get to my corpse
05:54.52Aiianelol Arrowmaster
05:54.57Aiianedie on an island in the air?
05:55.13Orionshockgg wowhead
05:55.15Orionshockhttp://www.wowhead.com/?quests&filter=da=ja;cr=9;crs=-2323;crv=0
05:55.16Arrowmasteron one of the tubes in netherstorm
05:55.17Orionshock>.>
05:56.25YasuoAiiane, well it will not use the action keys to display the CDs but create new bars wont it?
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05:57.31Yasuoshowing the CD in minutes/seconds directly over the button would by better
05:57.51Tekkubarro,w was it you that asked me to fix the combat log?
05:58.08Tekkub* Arrowmaster
05:59.35Arrowmasternot the combatlog but chatframe2
05:59.44Yasuowell wich addon is whowing the CDs like ct_barmod?
05:59.45Tekkubsame diff
05:59.52Tekkubanyway, my fix doesn't work with it
05:59.56Arrowmasterstuff like tradeskills show up even though they are disabled
06:00.04Tekkublike CF1, it saves out the correct settings
06:00.05Arrowmasteronlogin
06:00.15Tekkubbut on login, the ones on by default are OVERRIDEN
06:00.23TekkubCF1 just doesn't apply the settings
06:00.24Arrowmasterbut if you check then uncheck tradeskills im perty sure it stops it
06:00.47TekkubI know the behaviour, I just fucked with it
06:01.03TekkubCF2 remembers things you turned on and applys it correctly
06:01.20Tekkubbut it is overriding things you turned off on login
06:01.47Arrowmastercan you fix it?
06:01.58Tekkubnot a simple fix
06:02.09TekkubI'd have to monitor those ones and save out settings
06:02.26Tekkubif we don't get a patch tuesday, I'll look into a fix for that
06:02.40Tekkubcause it's only 4 chat types that come back on
06:02.43Arrowmasterwhat about just reapplying the settings?
06:02.50TekkubI can't
06:02.56Tekkubthat the fix for CF1
06:03.04TekkubCF2 is OVERWRITING the settings
06:03.12Arrowmasteronlogin or when?
06:03.15Tekkublogin
06:03.21Tekkubit doesn't on reload
06:03.24Arrowmasteryeah what about after login
06:03.27TekkubAND it does save them out correctly
06:03.31Arrowmasterlol??
06:03.40Arrowmasternot on reload?
06:03.44Tekkubit saves the settings, reload works fine
06:03.50Arrowmasterthats fucked up
06:04.01Tekkublog out and back in, and it will overwrite the settings and trun those 4 back on
06:04.09Arrowmasterwhere is it overwriting them?
06:04.12Tekkubbut it won't touch the others, and applies them correctly
06:04.18TekkubI don't know
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06:04.27durcynTekkub: your fix doesn't seem to be doing anything for LOOT, ITEM, REPUTATION, or, uh, whatever the hell the fourth one is in CF1
06:04.37Tekkubbut the other thing, combat log data is preserved across reload
06:04.56Arrowmasteri thought that was just preserved via the functions
06:04.57Tekkubso there seem to be some only-on-login init that's done to the log which causes this
06:05.03Jaxondurcyn: Reputation, Skill-Ups, Item Loot, Money Loot.
06:05.16durcynyeah, whatever the chat-cache token is for skillups.
06:05.22ArrowmasterTekkub: lol no the combatlog is reloaded from the functions on all PEW
06:05.39Tekkubdur, 1 or 2, cause 1's worked fine for me
06:05.45Tekkuband I don't touch 2
06:05.51durcynChatFrame1
06:05.59Tekkubyou're certain?
06:05.59durcynyou are saving those though?
06:06.06TekkubI don't save shit
06:06.10durcynwell, i could be doing something dumb
06:06.19TekkubI just apply the settings that aren't being applied to CF1 on login
06:06.58Thrae_Just use camelization. You can't go wrong with camelization.
06:07.38ArrowmasterThrae_: make tinytip work with ItemRefTooltip
06:07.38AiianeYasuo, OmniCC puts cooldowns directly on action buttons.
06:08.52AiianeYasuo: it also happens to be written by the same person who writes bongos.
06:09.15Aiianehttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/2775/
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06:10.39Tekkubdurcyn, rep works, skill-ups, itemloot and moneyloot appear to not
06:10.39Tekkublemme poke
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06:11.19NeoTronso my addon works like a fricking charm
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06:11.46ThraeArrowmaster: TinyTip works fine, it's all the other tooltip addons which don't
06:11.48NeoTronjust need to make it not use a hard coded list of ppl :P (marks ppl that needs to go in to the portal on kalecgos)
06:11.59ArrowmasterThrae: i said with ItemRefTooltip
06:12.24ArrowmasterThrae: i dont have any other tooltip addons
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06:13.00ArrowmasterThrae: talking about the blizzard default ui tooltip frame ItemRefTooltip
06:13.08ThraeOhhhh
06:13.08Gngskanyone elses bigwigs leaking memory or something?
06:13.28Orionshockgg, 114 daily quests...
06:13.30Gngsksteady 150+ kb/s in front of brutallus
06:13.31Orionshockdamn blizzard
06:13.33ThraeWait, how do you want it to work?
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06:13.56Tekkubdurcyn, rep works, skill-ups, itemloot and moneyloot appear to not
06:14.07Tekkubso I guess I gotta save shit out, ugh
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06:14.40ArrowmasterThrae: click a unitname in combatlog, it opens ItemRefTooltip with a tooltip for that unit, if you get a unitid from :GetUnit() you should skin it like GameTooltip
06:15.05ThraeArrowmaster: Ahh, new with 2.4?
06:15.08Arrowmasteryes
06:15.21Arrowmastertooltip:SetHyperlink("unit:guid")
06:15.46ThraeNeato
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06:16.27Arrowmasterhoverlinks in tekKompare now work with it so when i mouseover units in my combatlog i get a GameTooltip for them thats moded by TinyTip if i get a valid unitid
06:16.48Arrowmasterif the unit is visable but i dont get a unitid its just the default tooltip
06:17.01ThraeArrowmaster: Yeah, TinyTip doesn't skin every tooltip, just GameTooltip
06:17.14Arrowmasteri know
06:17.26ThraeArrowmaster: Add a feature request, I have to make the options GUI first
06:17.34Arrowmasterfine
06:18.09Arrowmastergives me something to do while i wait for the 2.3 patch to install on this laptop so i can install the rest of the patches one by one
06:18.16ThraeHaha
06:18.24ThraeArrowmaster: Why don't you just download 2.x -> 2.4?
06:18.42Arrowmasterbecause i have 2.x -> 2.3 and the rest of the patches
06:18.47Arrowmasterand i need it updated asap
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06:18.53ThraeOh, you have the rest of the patches already downloaded
06:19.04Arrowmasteri dont delete wow patches
06:19.11ZhinjioIs Ellipsis actually here, or just connxn bouncing
06:20.00ThraeArrowmaster: Is the new WitchHunt in trunk or branched?
06:20.17Arrowmastertrunk
06:20.44ThraeAh I see, I had downloaded via SVN. No wonder.
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06:23.19Arrowmasterwhy does googlecode not let you set any properties for new issues
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06:23.29Arrowmasterlike let me mark it as an enchancement
06:23.44ThraeArrowmaster: Odd, Wowace shows it as >30 days
06:23.53ArrowmasterWitchHunt?
06:23.57ThraeIs files.wowace.com lagging?
06:23.59ThraeArrowmaster: Yeah
06:24.02Arrowmasterweird
06:24.12Tekkubhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/robinhood/galleries/wallpaper/1024x768/littlejohn2.jpg
06:24.13Tekkub*grin*
06:24.13Arrowmasterits deffently updated
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06:24.39ThraeLemme try reloading the index.
06:25.08ThraeArrowmaster: There we go. No worries.
06:25.19ThraeTekkub: I'm never clicking anything you link named "Little John".
06:25.35TekkubIt's the BBC you retard
06:25.44TekkubROBIN HOOD
06:25.47Tekkubugh
06:26.18ThraeYes, I know...I'm still not clicking it!
06:26.24Grumgo blizzard?
06:26.44Grumon my holy priest, doing the manacube quest, i click on it and i get the error: "Must be in Catform"
06:26.49ThraeProbably a picture of "Merry Men" running around showing off "Little John"
06:27.11SilverstormGrum: lol...I do that on my druid and it auto-shifts me out of cat form
06:27.13ThraeGrum: Duhh, Resto Druids in Cat Form > Holy Priests! Blizzard is giving you a hint.
06:27.29mortthat's what you get for not playing a resto druid
06:27.42CIA-903scorpio0920 * r67223 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.lua:
06:27.42CIA-9BigWigs_NajAssist:
06:27.42CIA-9- Update zhTW localization.
06:28.09Lothaeri play a holy priest and i do the mana cube quest just fine
06:28.13ThraeActually, I think "Must be in Cat Form" is their default error message for stance errors, and it's not detecting your stance properly
06:28.29ThraeSince I hear people get it a lot -- Rogues, Warriors, etc.
06:28.56Lothaerany1 here play on Spinebeaker US?
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06:29.29Grumbut i am a lollypriest!
06:29.38Lothaerlol
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06:31.23Grumi dont has stances :(
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06:41.49Silverstormdoes Lua do line continuation?  I have a really long string concatenation that I'd like to put on multiple lines
06:43.07ThraeTekkub: Is there anything tekJunkSeller needs for 2.4? It didn't get a TOC update.
06:43.35Tekkubuh, must not have pushed it, but no there's nothing new, and I highly doubt there ever will be
06:43.48Tekkubit's the same code I used back in 1.x
06:44.11ThraeTekkub: Yeah you diligently updated everything else, just double-checking, since I rely on it.
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06:45.10Tekkubyea I missed the toc update on it, I'll push one
06:46.09CIA-9tekJunkSeller: 03tekkub 07master * re7f9106698 10tekJunkSeller/tekJunkSeller.toc: TOC to the hand
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06:48.29CIA-903benumbed * r67224 10DaHud/modules/Text/Text.lua:
06:48.29CIA-9DaHud:
06:48.29CIA-9<PROTECTED>
06:48.45TekkubBTW, new version of chat fix
06:48.45Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8559
06:49.03Tekkubsupports CF2 and saves the settings itsself to avoid blue's fuckery
06:49.23CIA-903orionshock * r67225 10SickOfClickingDailies/nameScaner.lua:
06:49.23CIA-9SickOfClickingDailies:
06:49.23CIA-9-There are 97 Unique Daily Quests in the game, this took ~2hrs on Wowhead to figure out.
06:49.23CIA-9-Add a name scanner to SOCD to keep locales up to date. See file for more info
06:49.27AeyanKick ass Mommy Squishface
06:49.34AeyanMust try it
06:50.14ArrowmasterTekkub: you typoed in the descripton
06:50.23Arrowmasterand i just typoed too
06:50.44TekkubI don't see one
06:50.56Arrowmasternot to now
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06:52.06Tekkuboh
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07:01.30xyuanyone know how much rep a normal magister's terrace is offhand?
07:02.39Roblibobabout 2k up to revered something. Then it's bugged because i still get rep from mobs but not bosses.
07:02.57xyuyeah same,  i dont get rep for the little aoe worms tho
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07:03.07xyu10k more rep until exalted :/
07:03.26xyutrying to figure how many more runs i need
07:03.27vithoshttp://i30.tinypic.com/2ql8nt4.jpg lol broken pet scaling
07:03.30xyuminus dailies
07:03.59Roblibobvithos: that's with new lootcard consumable?
07:04.00Silverstormxyu: ~1640 for full clear until revered, about 1230 after (http://www.wowwiki.com/Magister%27s_Terrace#Reputation)
07:04.08vithosRoblibob: nope, just randomly happened
07:04.17Arrowmastervithos: umm wtf?
07:04.22xyuah ok. thanks.  1230, wow a big decrease
07:04.23Arrowmasterwhy is it named that
07:04.25Roblibobbroken indeed :)
07:04.27vithosi don't know.
07:04.30vithosit's real name is Shesha
07:04.35vithoson my screen it's normal
07:04.38vithosbut my friend freaked out
07:04.42vithosand showed me that screenshot
07:04.47Arrowmasterhaha
07:05.46Silverstormxyu: first three bosses give no rep then (normally 120), so that's 360 of the decrease
07:06.26xyu8 more runs   ugh
07:06.41xyui may be able to do that tomorrow :/
07:06.45Xan3why cartographer use babble boss 2.2 and not babble boss 3.0?
07:07.41ArrowmasterXan3: which part?
07:08.35Xan3i dont know but babbleboss 2.2 are in external for cartographer
07:10.13Xan3LibBabble-Zone-3.0, LibBabble-Spell-3.0, Babble-Boss-2.2, Babble-Class-2.2
07:10.24nevcairielit was never updated, i suppose
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07:10.33SilverstormI haven't looked at those, what's the difference between them?
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07:14.10NeoTrondoes the demon enrage if kalecgos hits 10% beofre the demon?
07:14.19evlyes
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07:14.34NeoTronand the demon enrage is the same thing? 10% more dmg every percent he takes dmg?
07:14.37evl5%
07:14.45NeoTronso it's less increase
07:14.48evlYou really want to get the demon down to 10% so he banishes
07:14.53nevcairielwell you need to get both on 10% to really survive it
07:14.57evlOr people will die left and right
07:15.09NeoTronwait he banishes at 1% right?
07:15.36evlOur first kill was demon at 1% while dragon was at %5
07:15.49evlbut we had two tanks left with shieldwall so we actually killed him with only 1 death
07:15.53NeoTronwhat?
07:16.02NeoTronhow does it work exactly?
07:16.03Xan3Arrowmaster: in cartographer, the module istancenote uses babbleboss2.2
07:16.12NeoTronI thought you need to get the dragon to 1% once the demon gets banished?
07:16.21evlyeah ofc but
07:16.21nevcairieldemon banishes on 1%, and you finish killing the enraged dragon
07:16.29NeoTronok
07:16.30evlwe had dragon at 5% when demon was at 1% or something
07:16.36ThraeIs oRA3 stable?
07:16.53nevcairielThrae: yes, just only has one function so far =P
07:17.03Thraenevcairiel: Hah, what is it?
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07:17.14nevcairielpretty ready check windows :)
07:17.16NeoTrondo both enrage or the other one?
07:17.22ThraeOoo, pretty
07:17.23nevcairielNeoTron: both
07:17.25NeoTronok
07:17.35Aens|Superioritythey enrage based on the other's health
07:18.02Xan3Arrowmaster: there is a page wiki whith the interface for babbleboss3.0?
07:18.12Aens|Superioritywe got it to 4% outside 1% inside :/
07:18.19ArrowmasterXan3: not sure
07:18.30Thraenevcairiel: Is there an Ace3 branch of oRA2?
07:18.40evlIt's highly advisable to get demon down to 1% first
07:18.44evlno curse, no shadowbolts
07:18.47evlonly buffet to worry about
07:18.50nevcairielThrae: nop
07:18.55Xan3i can upgrade cartographer to babblaboss3 but i need a documentation
07:19.11NeoTron8% inside, 14% outside
07:19.28ArrowmasterXan3: oh i was about to do it
07:19.28evlNeoTron: That's good
07:19.46NeoTronclose
07:19.49NeoTronmy addon helps a lot
07:19.57evlAddons don't solve people problems in our case :P
07:20.11Silverstormhow much of a gear check vs. execution is Kalecgos?  As in, we started Hyjal last Novemeber, and just killed Illidan Thursday
07:20.15evlAs soon as people learn to adapt and look at their surroundings it's a pretty easy fight
07:20.18Xan3Arrowmaster: it's ok
07:20.24evlWe had 80 remove curses done in one fight
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07:22.12Xan3Arrowmaster: cartographer uses also babblaclass as external but (i thought) there isn't uses in code
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07:24.16NeoTronwhat the addon does it to have people zone in the first round
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07:25.29CIA-903cladhaire 07Non-Ace * r67226 10AddonLoader/: AddonLoader: Removing defunct branch. See http://code.google.com/p/addonloader/
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07:26.32CIA-903fenlis * r67227 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
07:26.32CIA-9BigWigs:
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07:29.46CIA-903xan * r67228 10OneBag/ (. OneBag.toc libs/):
07:29.46CIA-9OneBag
07:29.46CIA-9- bump toc to 2.4
07:29.46CIA-9- fixed externals
07:29.57CIA-903hedin * r67229 10WF3sec/WF3sec.toc: WF3sec: Update info
07:30.11ArrowmasterXan3: yeah im finding some other stuff that needs changed, let me get this after i test
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07:33.36Aens|SuperioritySilverstorm: kalec is almost pure execution
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07:34.41Aens|Superioritya majority of the damage is avoidable and preventable.
07:34.50CIA-903xan * r67230 10OneBank/OneBank.toc:
07:34.50CIA-9OneBank
07:34.50CIA-9- bump toc to 2.4
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07:36.39CIA-903nevcairiel * r67231 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Paladin.lua Threat-2.0.lua): Threat-2.0: small fixes to debug messages and descriptions
07:38.44NightHawkTheSanewho would i report a bloodboil bigwigs bug to?
07:40.19kalahassieither the bigwigs-forumsthread or rabbit/funky/ammo
07:41.09NightHawkTheSanei guess i'll just hit up the thread, because i'm not entirely sober enough to remember this very long.
07:41.26Xan3why in same mod libstub are not use as externals?
07:41.43ThraeXan3: ...What?
07:41.53nevcairielbecause thats the way LibStub was designed
07:41.58YasuoAiiane, omnicc works fine, thank you
07:42.04nevcairieland, mods do external LibStub
07:42.08nevcairieljust libraries dont
07:42.17ThraeOh, that
07:43.21Xan3it's right if the mod use libstub in static mode and not as externals?
07:43.32Xan3*uses
07:43.54nevcairieldoesnt hurt
07:45.13Xan3but (in short time) that mod uses an old version
07:45.46mitch0libstub has only one public version so far (afaik)
07:46.36Xan3si it's same?
07:46.38nevcairiellibstub isnt likely to change
07:46.43Xan3*so
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07:48.46Adirelle'morning
07:48.48Xan3I am updating libmobhealth-4.0 (toc to 2.4) i make libstub as externals or not?
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07:49.15nevcairiellibraries should _never_ external libstub
07:49.16Adirelledo any of you have some trouble with the "other" panel of the chat setting ?
07:49.18AntiarcHi everyone. I'm back.
07:49.25nevcairiel\o/
07:49.27nevcairielwelcome back
07:49.32AntiarcAnything blow up the internet while I was gone?
07:49.37nevcairieli think i found a very nasty bug for you
07:49.39nevcairielbut thats all
07:49.42AntiarcYay
07:49.45AntiarcI like found nasty bugs.
07:49.45nevcairiel(and fixed)
07:49.49AntiarcWhee!
07:49.51Adirelle(hey Antiarc) when I disable some messages like reputation or skill gain and relog, it seems the UI add them back
07:49.52AntiarcHave details?
07:50.00AntiarcI guess I could check commit logs
07:50.09AntiarcAdirelle: It's a known combat log bug, IIRC
07:50.11AntiarcBig thread on the forums
07:50.12nevcairielgetThreatString function
07:50.20nevcairielyou reuse the same table t
07:50.22AdirelleAntiarc: not combatlog, only "normal" chat
07:50.26nevcairielbut you never truncate the table
07:50.38mitch0eh, that sounds fun ;)
07:50.40ArrowmasterAdirelle: try http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8559-ChatSettingsFixPatch2.4.html
07:50.41nevcairieland i suspect you forgot the args to tconcat limiting the range
07:50.46Antiarcnevcairiel: That was intentional, it should overwrite and then truncate any additional entries.
07:50.47nevcairielwhich i added now
07:50.52Silviu-is searching for F'Antiarc + goatsex on yahoo. WEEE 329 hits!
07:50.55AntiarcOoh, you can limit concat range?
07:50.59AntiarcThat's a lot easier
07:51.00nevcairielyes
07:51.20nevcairielwell you didnt have any limiting it, as far as i could see
07:51.30nevcairielgot a report about a addon message containing the same GUID twice
07:51.37nevcairielthat might have caused alot of the issues
07:51.40nevcairielfreezing threat
07:51.41nevcairieletc
07:51.44Antiarcdefinitely
07:51.52Antiarcactually
07:51.56AntiarcThat definitely fixes one known bug
07:51.59Antiarcping-ponging threat
07:52.04AdirelleArrowmaster: ty
07:53.01nevcairielAntiarc: but yeah i saw you already counted the new length of the t table, you just didnt do anything with it :D
07:53.28AntiarcYeah. What I was doing was nilling entries from nl + 1 to #t
07:53.36AntiarcBut since you can just limit the concat range, that's better
07:53.51AntiarcI dunno how I missed it. thanks for the catch though :)
07:54.59nevcairielfixed some other small bugs with SendComm syntax and WIPE_ALL_THREAT or so .. but nothing big, just oversights due to sleep deprevation i guess ;)
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07:57.33mitch0bam!
07:57.33Funkeh`Antiar1, p.s. omen sucks
07:57.33Funkeh`;p
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07:57.36Antiar1I'm wokring on it.
07:57.38Antiar1Been gone all weekend.
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07:57.47Gngskany word on the unitisunit errors when trying to clear threat?
07:57.54Antiar1I haven't looked at it
07:57.59Antiar1I got in 10 minutes ago
07:58.06Antiar1Just checking for critical problems before I hit the sack
07:58.09GngskI meant, welcome back! :P
07:58.13Silviu-Antiar1 did u read pm`s on the other ? :D
07:58.14Gngskgg
07:58.15Funkeh`Antiar1, http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/11838/ coded like shit but has the potential to easily overthrow omen
07:58.28Antiar1Silviu-: Yeah, sure did, nevcairiel's fix may have fixed that
07:58.31Funkeh`no syncing and calculating others threat ftw
07:58.41Silviu-And last with that button ? :D
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07:58.54Funkeh`Antiar1, just something for you to look at :)
07:58.55Antiar1I'm not sure I got that message
07:59.00Antiar1And interesting!
07:59.05Antiar1I hope they put together a good product.
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07:59.38mitch0funkeh: is it using Threat-2.0 or some completely independent thing?
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07:59.47Funkeh`independant
07:59.49Antiar1It's independent
07:59.53mitch0hohum
07:59.53Funkeh`but has t2 compat
07:59.55Antiar1The hook is that it calculates others' threat too
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07:59.58nevcairielAntiar1: i got a big text file of errors involving the transaction thing a warrior gave me after our kara run .. no idea what to do with those =P
08:00.00mitch0ah, that's good then
08:00.08Funkeh`yeah
08:00.09Antiar1Which is definitely cool but I want to know how the hell they manage others' sunders
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08:00.21Antiar1nevcairiel: Just dump them in a jira ticket or something
08:00.26Antiar1I'm gonna go through all that tomorrow
08:00.32Funkeh`Antiar1, take some time and take a look at the code
08:00.35AntiarcI will
08:00.48Funkeh`cause imo their method > omens ;p
08:00.51Funkeh`no syncing ftw
08:01.08mitch0funkeh: if it's as accurate, then yes
08:01.13AntiarcBut a) FD resists aren't detectable by other clients, and b) sunder refreshes aren't detectable by other clients
08:01.18AntiarcWhich are two HUGE issues.
08:01.29Funkeh`Antiarc, but they are minor things that can be synced
08:01.40AntiarcThat still breaks the whole idea though :P
08:01.48AntiarcAnd sunder/FD are about as non-minor to threat as abilities come.
08:01.57AntiarcI'll definitely take a look though
08:02.04Funkeh`good man :)
08:02.07Lukiansyncing two pieces of data is better than syncing all data? :D
08:02.21Funkeh`Lukian, imo
08:02.34AntiarcI am not going to be so arrogant as to say they can't make it work
08:02.43AntiarcJust the problems I'd think of off the top of my head.
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08:04.16Funkeh`Antiarc, also, release a new version on curse with nevcairiel's fixes before the negative comments overflow
08:04.26AntiarcI will
08:04.36AntiarcI just wasn't able to access curse before I left this weekend
08:04.37Nandiniall they really need to do is change sunder armor to also do a trivial amount of damage
08:04.59Orionshock-.- AV makes me want to kill someone... or can my account
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08:05.14Nandinithat would automatically fix it without any change in how the combat log messages work
08:05.25Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=40088
08:05.29Tekkub*STAB*
08:05.30kalahassianti, should we close one of the two omen-threads?
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08:05.36ZeksieNandini: that would break things. a lot of tanks will sunder sheeped stuff with mouseover or something, without breaking sheep
08:05.41Funkeh`Antiarc, no spell cast success?
08:05.45TekkubNandini, I stole your blips, good day
08:05.46CIA-903arrowmaster * r67232 10Cartographer/ (18 files in 16 dirs): Cartographer: final Babble-2.2 to LibBabble-*-3.0 upgrade, and cleaned up all the submodule tocs to not OptDep older unused libraries
08:05.46Funkeh`or dose?
08:06.04Nandiniyw Tekkub, i have like 6 more sets i should release. LOL
08:06.17AntiarcFunkeh`: Not for other players, IIRC
08:06.23Tekkubtoss em my way if you want, I'm making a super small blip manager
08:06.23Antiarckalahassi: I'll check it tomorrow
08:06.33AntiarcI need sleep right now though
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08:07.53kalahassii suggest , to post  a bit from the changelog evry now and again, so people now what is fixed in which rev ;)
08:08.45nevcairielthe changelog doesnt necessarily explain which bugs were fixed
08:08.45exor674haha... what exactly is a "Simon Game Bunny" hha
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08:09.24zapl_Nandini: screenshot of the blips pls :D
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08:09.34kalahassinot necessarily yes, but sometimes. and if you add a few words it will do
08:09.41Orionshockok so how do i add a config to the blizzard thing useing AceConfig-3 ?
08:09.58Xan3arrowmaster: there is a bug in cartographer when clicks on note for see boss loot
08:10.17Funkeh`Orionshock, it's like a 1 liner
08:10.19Arrowmasterthat just got added or an old bug?
08:10.20Funkeh`see mapster
08:10.29Xan3just added
08:10.32NandiniOrionshock: take a look at how something small, like FishermansFriend does it
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08:10.36Arrowmasterbah what is it
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08:11.14ArrowmasterXan3: whats the bug?
08:11.19Xan3istanceloot: 273 attempt to call metod hasreverse traslation
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08:13.12CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r152 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc): TinyTip: Fixed SetUnit hooking handler so it actually works (undocumented 2.4 change, grr). Changed "insert" (boolean) to "priority" (number) for hook priority. Updated ToC.
08:13.12CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r153 10/trunk/TinyTipBasic/ (TinyTipBasic.lua TinyTipBasic.toc): TinyTipBasic: Fixed standalone SetUnit hooking handler so it actually works (undocumented 2.4 change, grr). Updated for priority change. Updated ToC.
08:13.38Funkeh`Thrae, 2.4 config zomg
08:14.07ThraeFunkeh`: Fixing errors > 2.4 config, I needed to do errors first
08:14.17Funkeh`;p
08:14.25Funkeh`also iirc you set global _ somewhere
08:14.32Funkeh`last time I printed it ingame
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08:15.43Arrowmasterhe also set a global core at one point, no clue if fixed
08:16.09ThraeArrowmaster: What addon are you using to check this?
08:16.22Arrowmasteri didnt use one i just saw it in the file
08:16.25[Ammo]no need for an addon
08:16.26Xan3there is a mod that can select lua errors for post in irc?
08:16.29[Ammo]just use a manual check :)
08:16.39[Ammo]there is a .bat in ace3 for instance that checks for that
08:16.42[Ammo]and reports globals
08:16.53[Ammo](although it does that for ace3 only, but easily adapted
08:17.11CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r154 10/trunk/TinyTipPositioning/ (TinyTipPositioning.lua TinyTipPositioning.toc): TinyTipPositioning: Fixed syntax error which was stopping all positioning. Updated ToC.
08:17.11CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r155 10/trunk/TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipOptions.lua TinyTipOptions.toc): TinyTipOptions: Call ReInitialize() for all changes, allowing most changes to actually be implemented. Updated ToC.
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08:18.47Xan3there is a mod that permit to meto select lua errors for post in irc?
08:18.57KemayoBugGrabber+BugSack.
08:19.04KemayoOr others.
08:19.20GrumSwatter
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08:19.56KemayoInteresting toolip possibly-bug -- if you bring up a targetting circle (I noticed with bombs) while your cursor is over a unit, that unit's tooltip won't fade as long as the circle is up.
08:20.44Kemayohas an actionbar button bound to middle-click, for making certain quests So Much Easier. :D
08:21.29LukianFunkeh`, does DTM "grow upwards" by default?
08:22.06Kemayo[Ammo]: Pah, bothering to actually *script* "luac -l -p file.lua | grep SETGLOBAL"?
08:22.21[Ammo]Kemayo: to do it automatically for all Ace3 files yez
08:22.28KemayoYeah, I guess that's fair.
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08:24.13CIA-903arrowmaster * r67233 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer: actually do the Babble-2.2 to LibBabble-Boss-3.0 conversion this time
08:24.31NandiniDid you know you can also click the minimap to cast ground-targeted spells?
08:24.46Arrowmastersrsly?
08:24.46Nandiniif you learn where things stand on the minimap, it can be much easier to click there than in the game world.
08:24.54Arrowmasteromg
08:24.55Nandini(for bombing, etc)
08:25.00EllipsisThe More You Know
08:25.02Arrowmasteruber
08:25.15Arrowmastergood thing i have sense demons
08:25.34Nandiniit is sometimes problematic when you are flying or standing on ground that is raised (like on a platform or indoors)
08:25.41KemayoHuh, interesting.
08:26.21KemayoTime to turn on sense demon and make my minimap a lot bigger...
08:26.34[Ammo]oh you can bomb on the minimap?
08:26.37Ellipsisyou don't keep it on?
08:26.38Nandiniit also causes a map ping when you do that, i learned from multiboxers that they can cause all their chars to cast ground targeted aoes on the same location that way
08:27.24KemayoEllipsis: Mostly I have a gathering profession's tracking turned on.  Finding local demons is rarely a priority. :P
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08:28.03EllipsisKemayo: silly gathering professions
08:28.10KemayoDemons: big.  Herbs: small.
08:28.16EllipsisI just leave sense demons on all the time, simplifies my life a lot
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08:29.10KemayoI tend to only use mob-tracking abilities if I'm looking for a *specific* mob of that type.
08:29.13exor674I eish there was a Sense Noobs
08:29.47KemayoI might leave, say, track humanoid up a lot more if I was on a pvp server.
08:29.58ThraeIs there a enEB locale for British English?
08:30.20ArrowmasterThrae: GetCVar("locale") == "enEB"
08:30.22clad|officeenGB
08:30.28ArrowmasterThrae: GetCVar("locale") == "enGB"
08:30.28clad|office?
08:30.30ThraeGotcha
08:30.44Nandinithere's enGB but the content is identical to enUS and doesn't require further localization i don't think
08:30.53ArrowmasterGetLocale() still returns "enUS" though i think
08:31.15Nandinii think enGB just suggests european English speaking realms for the most part
08:31.29ThraeYeah, I just have Locale_en.lua for both
08:31.52ThraeOnly in the case where I want symbols instead of abbreviations for default
08:32.10[Ammo]the only differences would be color colour etc, but who gives a flying fuck
08:33.02ThraeHmm, actually I wonder if the French use
08:33.18ThraeHmm, actually I wonder if the Roman languages use "Focus", "MA", "MT", etc.
08:33.39ThraeThat should be "romantic"
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08:34.49[eu]gunderWell we use (at least in my guild) "Focus" & "MT" not sure what is used for "MA" though (french speaking guild)
08:34.55EllipsisThrae: that's what *she* said
08:35.36ThraeYeah, I'll make the default use abbreviations and change koKR, zhCN, and zhTW use symbols
08:41.22evlAnyone know of a mod that tracks raid debuffs on your currently selected trarget?
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08:43.09Nandinievl: "tracks" debuffs? you mean you want to see whether your target has or doesn't have a specified list of debuffs?
08:43.21evlI want to see what raid debuffs are on the target
08:43.30evlDemo, scorpid, curses etc.
08:43.47omegayour userframe can't show that?
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08:44.17Nandinido you also want to see when they are NOT on the target? (i.e., all "raid" debuffs are listed and change from red to green when they are applied)
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08:48.12Matrix110vhaarr http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11842/ <---is that guy allowed? :p
08:48.28evlNandini: yes, a sort of lights on/off
08:49.19CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r156 10/trunk/TinyTipTargets/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
08:49.19CIA-9thrae-wow: TinyTipTargets: Updated SetUnit code for 2.4. Changed "<< YOU >>" colour so it's
08:49.19CIA-9thrae-wow: Red for Hostile, White otherwise. Changed Focus, MA, and MT symbols into (F),
08:49.19CIA-9thrae-wow: (MA), (MT) as default, and used (*), (!), << for Asian languages. Added
08:49.19CIA-9thrae-wow: "TargetsNoEventUpdate" option to disable use of UNIT_TARGET. Updated ToC.
08:50.17Nandinievl: i previously used an old addon called pDebuffList, it hasn't been updated in a long time and i don't know if it still works or not
08:50.34CivrockSo, SpellReminder is using audiofiles of BigWigs by default, and it throws errors when BigWigs is disabled.
08:51.09NandiniCivrock: So? :)
08:51.16CivrockIt's annoying.
08:51.30Grumwhat do you use to play a sound? and does blizzard call that function themself internally (can you hook it and see which soundfiles are about to be played?)
08:51.33CivrockSince BigWigs only loads itself when in an instance.
08:51.42Matrix110pDebuffList8 hours agoCombatShows if a focus and/or target has valuable raid debuffsPunkie51371
08:51.44Matrix110seems updated
08:51.52Civrock[2008/03/31 04:20:01-1413-x3]: AceEvent-2.0-66043 (Ace2):369: Usage: PlaySoundFile("soundfile")
08:51.57[Ammo]it's not matrix, but it works fine
08:52.19Nandinii think it just had libraries which were updated, it should still work ok tho since buffs/debuffs haven't changed in many patches
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08:53.48Anadalehello
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08:57.36CIA-903antiarc * r67234 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Fix for threat not clearing between fights. Addresses OMEN-9
08:57.41Antiarc|SleepI can't sleep.
08:57.53Ellipsisjoin the club
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08:58.07Antiarc|SleepI also did Disneyland and drove LA -> Phoenix today.
08:58.11Antiarc|SleepSo I should be dead tired.
08:59.00nevcairielthanks for that fix
08:59.04nevcairielthat was driving us mad
08:59.07nevcairielon Brutallus
08:59.13Antiarc|SleepYeah. Stupid mistake on my end.
08:59.18CIA-903ammo * r67235 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.lua libs/ libs.xml): WitchHunt: add /wh and /witchhunt slashcommand in to stop retards from bothering me
08:59.19Antiarc|SleepUnitName rather than UnitGUID
08:59.32Ellipsisbad Antiarc|Sleep
08:59.36Ellipsisno caffeine!
08:59.43Antiarc|SleepWell
08:59.49Antiarc|SleepI had red bull on the way over
08:59.51Antiarc|SleepTo keep me alert
09:01.20evlIs bit.band(srcFlags, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_MINE) == COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_MINE correct if I want to filter on stuff that originates from me only?
09:01.23Silviu-Antiarc|Sleep so with this update, if some have updated and some not, the threat will still clear to all ?
09:01.35Antiarc|SleepSilviu-: Only people who update will clear properly
09:01.43Silviu-Damn :(
09:01.56Silviu-Cause some noobs still don`t update
09:02.34Antiarc|SleepSorry, but bugs are bugs and just have to be updated away :/
09:02.44Antiarc|Sleepanyone know what event fires when a unit changes hostility?
09:02.52KalrothGo to bed, Antiarc!
09:02.57Antiarc|SleepI tried to sleep for an hour
09:02.58Antiarc|SleepI can't
09:03.04Antiarc|SleepToo much caffeine in the bloodstream
09:03.14KalrothMaybe it was because we were trashtalking you on the EJ channel!
09:03.16NandiniAntiarc: i think it's UNIT_FACTION or something like that
09:03.35Silviu-Antiarc|Sleep Can u also add an button avaible to Raidlead/Officers that can wipe threat for all ? ;)
09:03.41Antiarc|Sleepyes, I will
09:03.46Silviu-Cool ! thx
09:03.47Antiarc|SleepBut they'll have to update for that too :P
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09:03.51Silviu-Pff :P
09:03.57KalrothThat was actually it :p Someone was bitching about missing /omen reset
09:03.59Arrowmasterits 1 of UNIT_FLAGS UNIT_DYNAMIC_FLAGS or UNIT_FACTION i think, but devtools event viewer wouldnt tell me arg1
09:04.07Arrowmasterso i couldnt tell
09:04.14Antiarc|SleepAnyone know of a convenient mob to test that with (solo)?
09:04.32Silviu-Some in my guild, go by this "if works why update" and .. they see it "working" some bars and don`t care about new versions
09:04.37KalrothAntiarc|Sleep: what do you mean? just a mob that doesn't hit hard?
09:04.48Silviu-Antiarc|Sleep solo no, but Kael in magister terrace would help :P
09:04.49Antiarc|SleepA mob that I can cause a friendly->hostile switch for
09:04.50Nandiniprobably any mob that's neutral to start out with and becomes hostile when you attack it (like boars outside orgrimmar)?
09:05.06Arrowmasteryou want a mob thats hostile but not attackable
09:05.09Xan3drdoom
09:05.09Antiarc|SleepActually
09:05.10Antiarc|SleepRight
09:05.11Nandinimight be different from units you can't attack but later can attack
09:05.13Antiarc|SleepArrowmaster got it
09:05.24ArrowmasterAntiarc|Sleep: what are you testing on?
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09:05.29KalrothShattrath, opposite faction then
09:05.33Antiarc|SleepI need a target to test on
09:05.37KalrothThey're very hostile, but you can't attack them :P
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09:05.43ZhinjioGood evening.
09:05.49Zhinjiowb, Antiarc
09:05.55NandiniGood morning. :)
09:05.59Arrowmasterthat would fire UNIT_FACTION i think
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09:06.11Arrowmasternot sure if that fires for the mobs
09:06.20NandiniUNIT_FACTION seems to return a name as arg1
09:06.31Arrowmastername?
09:06.33Arrowmasterwtf
09:06.39Arrowmasterit should be a unitid
09:06.48Nandinioh wait a unit name, poor documentation on the wiki
09:07.04Nandini"the name of the unit whose faction changed"
09:07.39ArrowmasterAntiarc|Sleep: oh i know a mob
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09:08.25Ellipsislicks Zhinjio
09:08.26ArrowmasterAntiarc|Sleep: side entrance to ud strat, the magistrate that starts near the entrance but runs away, although that might not be good enough hmm
09:08.35Arrowmasterdont know when he becomes attackable
09:08.37Nandinithe only ones i can think of outside of instances are quest mobs that become attackable after you talk to them
09:08.40Antiarc|SleepDoh!
09:08.41Antiarc|SleepI know!
09:08.41ZhinjioEllipsis: !!!
09:08.44Antiarc|SleepAt war/not at war
09:08.54ThraeHmmm, is there documentation for AceConfig-3.0 anywhere?
09:09.08ArrowmasterAntiarc|Sleep: i still wouldnt trust that one since its other changes
09:09.15Nandiniooh true, you can set at war with cenarion circle and see if it fires for the guy in org
09:09.23Antiarc|SleepI'm purely interested in attackable status
09:10.17Arrowmasterdoes current omen work if you target a mob then go atwar without untargeting?
09:10.30Zhinjiowhat does magic marker do?
09:10.31Antiarc|SleepThat's what I aim to test
09:10.34Antiarc|SleepI expect it doesn't
09:10.47Zhinjiomanage raid targets?
09:11.32Arrowmasterand how are you going to add this without triggering an omen redraw if it happens to fire other times too? or not going to bother with that yet until its reported?
09:11.57Arrowmasterand what events did omen1 use? because it didnt have this problem afaik
09:12.11Antiarc|SleepThe problem is that it checks UnitCanAttack when setting a threat target
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09:12.21Antiarc|Sleepomen1 didn't, IIRC
09:12.22Nandiniand it seems you may be able to generate aoe threat against units you cannot yet attack
09:12.38Antiarc|SleepPerhaps I just remove the check.
09:12.48Nandinior against pseudo-dead units
09:13.02Arrowmasteryou can generate threat vs pseude-dead units
09:13.16Arrowmasteri died way too many times on R+J dots
09:13.27Nandinii wonder what the combat log looks like for R+J now
09:13.47Arrowmasterpreviously it did a ton of death events
09:13.52Nandiniare there different events for when they die for real and when they are fake dead?
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09:14.18Arrowmasterwhen they went pseudo-dead, and then a couple seconds after you killed both it did another death event when they became lootable
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09:14.46Arrowmasterno only 1 event for each if they still fire pseudo-death events
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09:15.35ArrowmasterAntiarc|Sleep: you do a global threat wipe for each person on regen enabled right?
09:15.41Grum<Arrowmaster> you want a mob thats hostile but not attackable <-- if you dont have to attack them, there are 'dead voidreavers' in netherstorm that are hostile but unattackable
09:15.42Antiarc|SleepArrowmaster: Yes, fixed it
09:15.46Antiarc|SleepI was using name rather than GUID
09:15.48Antiarc|SleepFixed it a bit ago.
09:16.06QuantumDeltaAntiarc|Sleep you're as bad as I am ;p
09:16.07Arrowmasterhuh?
09:16.11QuantumDeltasleep man sleep :P
09:16.18Arrowmasterwhat are you talking about anti?
09:16.18Nandinithe void reavers that float thru the tunnels?
09:16.25Grumno
09:16.25Antiarc|SleepThere was abug. I fixed it a few minutes ago :P
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09:16.34QuantumDeltanot that I don't wanna harass you about omen lots :<
09:16.35Grumthere are in the SW those 'scrapheap' voidreavers
09:16.38Arrowmasteri dont know what your talking about though
09:16.38Grumerm felreavers even
09:17.04nevcairielArrowmaster: yes he does a threat wipe, but it was bugged until a few minutes ago, if that answers your question :P
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09:17.56ArrowmasterAntiarc|Sleep: on IDC its possible to kill them all and not get a unit dead for the rogue, but thats not an issue right since all threat clears on leaving combat
09:17.57wiresurferGood mornin fellow azerothean's and outlanders, I have one short question: I'm looking for a mod that can send automatic greetings when friends come online. Anyone know of one ?
09:19.06NivFreakSo the omen threat clearing issues are fixed then?
09:19.09nevcairielis IDC the new cool acronym for illidari council?
09:19.12Antiarc|SleepVery hopefully
09:19.20Arrowmasterits what my guild uses
09:19.29NivFreakArrowmaster: cool
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09:19.38kalahassiantiarc, go to bed ! ;)
09:19.41NivFreakit was interesting doing leo and tidewalker without a working meter
09:19.50NivFreakI don't run without a meter much anymore :)
09:19.54NivFreakwell
09:19.57QuantumDeltaI'm so tempted to poke him about percieved bugs but I think he should sleep too :<
09:19.58NivFreakI can't remember the last time I did
09:20.21ArrowmasterAntiarc|Sleep: and i sent you logs of illidan, there were no threat wipes at all
09:20.26wiresurferwe did RoS and bloodboil without threat meters.. people had to hold back a bit more than their used to. but a kill none-theless
09:20.27NivFreakAntiarc|Sleep: I should look at my bugsack, but was it actually throwing an error on the threatwipe?
09:20.43NivFreakbecause every phase change on leo it'd pop an error
09:20.48Antiarc|SleepArrowmaster: Thanks a ton
09:20.51NivFreakI forgot to look at them afterward
09:20.55Antiarc|SleepNivFreak: No error, no
09:21.01Antiarc|SleepIt just was wiping on unit name rather than unit guid
09:21.02NivFreakok, so I should look at that...
09:21.05Antiarc|SleepWhich didn't work :)
09:21.38nevcairielglobal threat wipes sync messages were bugged
09:21.48nevcairieli fixed that yesterday
09:22.13TE|kulaarlol
09:22.14TE|kulaarhttp://www.c-jump.com/
09:22.25QuantumDeltahmm you two still getting any reports of comms problems on omen/threat besides me? ;\
09:22.36QuantumDeltanevcairiel/antiarc that is :P
09:23.12Antiarc|Sleephttp://pastey.net/84785 <-- does that seem valid?
09:24.07Arrowmasteri dont think you need the last 2
09:24.14CIA-903jerry * r67236 10Links/Links.lua: Links: fix modifiedclick handling in inverted mode
09:24.36QuantumDeltathe pet ones do seem a little redundant
09:25.11Arrowmasterpets cant be MC'd so UnitPlayerControlled(unit) should always be true for them
09:25.42Ellipsisthey can still be charmed
09:25.54Arrowmasterive never seen an MC'd pets
09:25.58EllipsisI  have
09:26.07Ellipsislots of trolls hex my pets
09:26.09Ellipsisit annoys me
09:26.25Arrowmasterhex?
09:26.30Arrowmasteri thought hex was a sheep
09:26.51Ellipsisdoes UnitPlayerControlled() return true on a hexed unit?
09:27.00Antiarc|SleepI don't believe so
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09:32.03CIA-903antiarc * r67237 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: Fix for changes in unit hostility not allowing targets to become valid threat targets. Should only invalidate player-controlled units now until I can track down the event that fires when a hostility switch occurs.
09:32.47Xan3oRA2 uses LibSharedMedia-2.0, it's hard to upgrade to LibSharedMedia-3.0?
09:32.49QuantumDelta*pokies Antiarc|Sleep*
09:33.01Antiarc|SleepHm?
09:33.18QuantumDeltaJust wondering about omen behaviourally since the upgrade
09:33.37ThraeOK, I'm getting a bit confused on all the different types available with AceConfig-3.0.
09:33.40Antiarc|SleepOh. Yes, some issues. Make sure people are upgraded. I'm still tweaking the protocol to be less spammy.
09:33.54QuantumDeltanot complaining about it ;)
09:34.01QuantumDeltajust queries
09:34.23QuantumDeltaYou know how KTM will display a raids threat on a target even if you don't have it targeted?
09:34.43QuantumDeltawell aoe threat for when you don't have a master target set
09:35.05Arrowmasterthats a useless display in ktm
09:35.08QuantumDeltabut in general you don't have to have stuff targeted for it to display the threat values in the client, or even be in combat
09:35.43Ellipsisbut why would you care?
09:36.18QuantumDeltaWell I would agree with you but as a tank or raid leader healer it can be a pain in the butt to swap off whatever target you're managing, or tank you're healing to check raid threat on a boss
09:36.20ThraeArrowmaster: You used AceConfig-3.0, right? Where'd you get your documentation?
09:36.35QuantumDeltajust wondering if overview is gonna represent the same sorta functionality
09:36.44ArrowmasterAntiarc|Sleep: you know that event might not be worth looking for, think about it if your grouped with somebody attacking a mob you cant attack due to rep, you would still want threat displayed i would think
09:36.58ArrowmasterThrae: nope never have
09:37.08Antiarc|SleepQuantumDelta: That's what Overview and Tank/Healer modes are for
09:37.18QuantumDeltalovely
09:37.23QuantumDeltaI was really hoping ;)
09:37.38Antiarc|SleepArrowmaster: Yeah, hence the pastey up above
09:37.47AnadaleGuys, have a quick question about SVN and branching. I'm trying to create a branch according to rules from wowace wiki "http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/<addon name>/<user name>/<addon name>" but getting an error telling that "http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/<addon name>" doesn't exists? Am I missing something?
09:37.57QuantumDeltaThey're a bit non-functional for me atm even on the last reversion, but I'm really glad you're throwing it in
09:37.58ThraeArrowmaster: Wait, I'm confusing you with Ammo again
09:38.14ArrowmasterAnadale: dont use that anymore, you can leave off the final <addon name>
09:38.35AnadaleOk, but it complains on first <addon name>
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09:38.55Ellipsisyou have to create that folder before you can create a subfolder, IIRC
09:39.09Arrowmasteror setup that dir struction locally
09:39.12Anadalethrough repo-browser?
09:41.42CIA-903anadale * r67238 10/branches/UnderHood/:
09:41.42CIA-9UnderHood:
09:41.42CIA-9- Root for UnderHood branches
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09:44.32QuantumDeltaIf we're still having the comms problems when everyone is using the new version I'll let you know and try and find out what's causing it too
09:47.31AnadaleOk, I've created folder in branches, now I'm getting error saying that "/wowace/trunk/UnderHood" name is no longer exists...
09:47.59AnadaleQuestion: the target url for branch must exists BEFORE I do branching or SVN will create the last portion of it?
09:48.35Anadaleexample: I want to create /wowace/branches/UnderHood/1.2. /wowace/branches/UnderHood is exists, should I manually create final 1.2?
09:48.45Arrowmasterno
09:49.01Silviu-Antiarc|Sleep an combatlog from Kael in Magister Terrace would help u solve that thing ? ;)
09:49.07Arrowmastercommit to /wowace/branches/UnderHood/1.2/
09:49.17CIA-903hegarol * r67239 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua:
09:49.17CIA-9AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
09:49.17CIA-9- missing TCG item ID added
09:49.28AntiarcSilviu-: Unfortunately no
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09:49.32ArrowmasterSilviu-: combatlog doesnt contain the needed events
09:49.36AnadaleI was trying to use TSVN's Branch/Tag function
09:49.40AnadaleIs that wrong?
09:49.44Silviu-Damn :(
09:49.58ArrowmasterAnadale: no clue ive never uses TSVN
09:49.59Silviu-Than ... what can do do to see those events ? ;)
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09:50.55Daemonahaha ... he worked long and hard for it... http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4706/spikeydogdn2.jpg
09:51.53Robliboblol
09:52.18XinhuanFunkeh`
09:52.19CIA-903hegarol * r67240 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
09:52.19CIA-9AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
09:52.19CIA-9- added Bag of Gems to Magtheridon
09:52.22Trell_Is there any more documentation on MagicMarker than is available on the Wiki?
09:52.40Xinhuanthe bigwigs menus doesn't have anything for "Sunwell Plateau"
09:52.47Xinhuanor rather, the submenu is empty
09:52.49CIA-903anadale 071.2 * r67241 10UnderHood/:
09:52.49CIA-9UnderHood:
09:52.49CIA-9- Preparation for release 1.2
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09:54.13CIA-903zeksie * r67242 10ZOMGBuffs/ (9 files in 6 dirs): ZOMGBuffs: No longer requires Babble-Spell. Please report any incorrect icons/spell names.
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09:54.28ThraeAnyone for documentation or a good example of AceConfig-3.0 (standalone) usage?
09:55.38CIA-903kurax * r67243 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (sets.cn.lua sets.tw.lua):
09:55.38CIA-9AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
09:55.38CIA-9- zhCN & zhTW locales follow up
09:59.23CIA-903kurax * r67244 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (burningcrusade.cn.lua burningcrusade.tw.lua): AtlasLoot_BCInstances: Update zhCN & zhTW localizations
09:59.56_raneis there an addon that shows how long debuffs last on party members?
10:00.11KuraxImpossible
10:00.19_raneimpossible?
10:01.02KuraxYou can only aquire buff times cast by yourself only
10:01.07Zeksiehe means, everyone would need to run some reporting mod that will let others know their debuff timers
10:01.19Leialynone could implement a sync feature for pitpull ;D
10:01.24_ranethat's what i thought
10:01.34Nandinii think one of the old ct mods sync'ed buff and debuff durations
10:02.04Nandinii'd consider it a better feature for oRA than for PB
10:02.22_ranei need it for arena
10:02.37_ranemore specifically for mortal strike
10:02.40KuraxAsk grayhoof implement that in Proximo
10:02.46LeialynPB has cooldown spiral for own buffs/debuffs... you could expand it to also show this for party members
10:02.59Leialynif sync is available
10:03.21Leialynso you don't need extra space for timer bars etc
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10:03.40Nandinithere are many situations where buff/debuff syncing would add additional network traffic that could be undesirable
10:04.12_ranehow does the reporting happen?
10:04.17_ranein some hidden channel or something?
10:04.22Leialynyes, addon channel
10:04.44mikmaomagad
10:05.15Nandiniit might be great for 2-5 man arenas, but a huge bandwidth hog in a 40-man AV or 25-man raid
10:05.35Leialynlol sure, not for 40-mans ^^^
10:05.49KuraxFor arena it's ok, but in a raid that network traffic would just be terrible
10:06.33Nandiniit would probably make the most sense to implement it in an arena addon and not in a generic library then
10:06.49CIA-903helium * r67245 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
10:06.50CIA-9Babble-2.2:
10:06.50CIA-9- Spell: updated zhTW localization
10:06.53CIA-903helium * r67246 10BugSack/BugSack.toc: BugSack: updated zhTW localization
10:06.57CIA-903totalpackage * r67247 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
10:06.57CIA-9Cellular
10:06.57CIA-9- added the option of hiding the side shortcut buttons
10:06.57CIA-9- added middle-click to close a tab
10:06.58CIA-9- active tab is now larger than the others
10:07.00CIA-9- code cleanup and minor fixes
10:07.06Leialynbut don't arena addons only show enemy healthbars?
10:07.08CIA-903helium * r67248 10GloryLib/ (Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua GloryLib.toc): GloryLib: updated zhTW localization
10:07.39CIA-903helium * r67249 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/ (LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua zhTW.lua):
10:07.39CIA-9LibBabble-Spell-3.0
10:07.39CIA-9- updated zhTW localization
10:07.47CIA-903helium * r67250 10LibBanzai-2.0/LibBanzai-2.0.toc: LibBanzai-2.0: TOC 20400
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10:08.01mikmahahahahahahahahahaaaa! http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/11718/
10:08.04CIA-903helium * r67251 10LibDruidMana-1.0/LibDruidMana-1.0.toc: LibDruidMana-1.0: TOC 20400
10:08.05Nandinisome also show selected buffs/debuffs on enemies
10:08.07CIA-903helium * r67252 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.toc: LibMobHealth-4.0: TOC 20400
10:08.21Arrowmasterwtb ban on translators changing tocs
10:08.30CIA-903helium * r67253 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.toc: LibRockComm-1.0: TOC 20400
10:08.31CIA-903helium * r67254 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0: updated zhTW localization
10:08.46CIA-903helium * r67255 10LibRockConsole-1.0/LibRockConsole-1.0.toc: LibRockConsole-1.0: TOC 20400
10:08.50LeialynI meant they only show stuff on enemies, not on party members iirc
10:08.57Kuraxyeah
10:09.01CIA-903helium * r67256 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0.toc: LibSharedMedia-2.0: TOC 20400
10:09.02Orionshockhehe...
10:09.04CIA-903helium * r67257 10LibRockModuleCore-1.0/LibRockModuleCore-1.0.toc: LibRockModuleCore-1.0: TOC 20400
10:09.05CIA-903helium * r67258 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0.toc:
10:09.05CIA-9LibSharedMedia-3.0
10:09.05CIA-9- TOC 20400
10:09.12KuraxBan him!
10:09.14Orionshockon a lighter note, our guild took down FLK - first time :D
10:09.19Nandinigrats
10:09.26Leialynflk?
10:10.24OrionshockFathom-Lord Karathress
10:10.51CIA-903antiarc * r67259 10Omen/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Omen: Add more fine-grained controls regarding when to show/hide Omen (solo, with pet, in party, in raid, resting, in battleground/arena). Should be lots less annoying now!
10:13.58LeialynI could kill the ingame combatlog... on login it always shows stuff from others until I enter chat settings and press ok
10:14.03CIA-903adirelle * r67260 10CoolDownButtons/ (core.lua locales/frFR.lua):
10:14.03CIA-9CoolDownButtons:
10:14.03CIA-9- partial frFR localization,
10:14.03CIA-9- feed cooldown icon to LibSink-2.0,
10:14.03CIA-9- announce exactly at the moment the cooldown is over even if the pulse effect was enabled.
10:15.28CamciAnyone know how I can move this loot window? http://i30.tinypic.com/23vkkmv.jpg
10:15.57Leialynhow did it get there?
10:16.03_raneLeialyn: is it related to this?
10:16.09_ranethe addon channel thing
10:16.12_ranehttp://wowace.com/wiki/AceComm-2.0_Tutorial
10:16.18Leialynyep
10:16.25CamciI dont know Leialyn
10:16.26Camci^^
10:16.53Leialyncause my GroupLootFrame's are oversized at the center bottom of my screen
10:17.17mikmause bongos :)
10:17.19CamciYea I want it there aswell
10:17.29mikmaTuller Approves(tm)
10:17.40Leialyndo bongos move it?
10:17.44Ellipsisyes
10:17.46mikmayes it can move it
10:18.01CamciI use bartender
10:18.08mikmanevcairiel: lololo you suck.
10:18.14LeialynI tried to write such an addon myself to move the default grouplootframe's (cause I dislike the XLoot ones)
10:18.25mikmaLeialyn: teksloot <3
10:18.26Leialynbut I had to hook the frames every onupdate
10:18.32Leialynhmm
10:18.36Leialynis it on svn?
10:18.40Camcibbl'
10:18.42Ellipsis...no
10:19.02Leialyngive me an url pls
10:19.06Ellipsisgoogle.com
10:19.14Ellipsisor for a shortcut, wowinterface.com
10:20.00Roblibobfor better group loot windows i'd try XLootGroup
10:20.25KuraxXLoot is stopped on developing =(
10:20.51Robliboboh
10:20.59Grumwhy bother devving something that is working?
10:21.10Arrowmasterit is?
10:21.13Arrowmastersince when?
10:21.15Roblibobyeah Xloot works fine 2.4
10:21.18Grumwhat isnt working? O.o
10:21.38Arrowmasterwhere was this announcement that it wasnt being developed?
10:22.06KuraxWowInterface page
10:22.17Grumbut seriously, it works, it needs no more changes imho =D
10:22.25KuraxYeah, true
10:23.16Roblibobhm, seems like xloot was updated 4 days ago.
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10:24.44Leialynlast Xloot update was 26. November
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10:24.55KuraxTo say that words "I'm no longer developing XLoot. Check out addons like Butsu"
10:25.24CIA-903zeksie * r67261 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Fixed icon for mark of wild in raid popup.
10:25.34Arrowmasterforum link?
10:25.42CIA-903antiarc * r67262 10Omen/ (Config.lua Localization/enUS.lua Omen.lua): Omen: Improved version checks. Now shows threat agent and users without any threat agent.
10:25.59Leialynbut Xloot loot window still works, so lets hope Blizzard doesn't change much in future patches
10:26.17ArrowmasterAntiarc: oh could you change the out of date version check to say last compatible version instead of latest version?
10:26.57ArrowmasterAntiarc: and for the love of god disable the bug reports on curse
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10:33.49nevcairielhttp://aycu37.webshots.com/image/48276/2000257979229503098_rs.jpg
10:34.51Zeksieheh
10:35.12QuantumDeltaThat reminds me of can-air
10:35.21Zeksieno worse than Rock Salt with a sell by date..
10:35.26QuantumDeltalol
10:35.43CIA-903ananhaid * r67263 10Cartographer/ (34 files in 15 dirs):
10:35.43CIA-9Cartographer:
10:35.43CIA-9- zhCN update.
10:36.04QuantumDeltahow long does it take for the svn to update btw oO
10:36.10Zeksie20 mins max
10:36.14QuantumDeltata :)
10:36.17Zeksieif you mean -> wau
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10:36.28QuantumDeltafiles.wowace.com I suppose?
10:36.30QuantumDeltabut yea wau
10:36.34Zeksiesame thing. yeah
10:36.40CIA-903antiarc * r67264 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-2.0: Move GUID-name lookups into Threat core. No more <unknown> bars in Omen now unless something is quite wrong.
10:36.49OrionshockQuantumDelta: every 20 mins from the top of the hour
10:37.05KuraxWhy they name it "Mirror bar", I can't get the meaning of mirror here
10:37.06CIA-903antiarc * r67265 10Omen/Modules/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Omen: Switch GUID lookups to Threat core. Deprecates LibGUIDRegistry for name lookups.
10:37.06QuantumDeltaThank ya kindly
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10:37.22KazieHey
10:37.25QuantumDeltaeverything has to have a name ;)
10:37.27EllipsisKurax: we don't get it either, don't worry
10:37.42KuraxReally?
10:37.44Ellipsisyep
10:37.55KazieDoes anyone else than me have a problem with maximizing your chat(s) with MiniChat? .. everytime i logon i can't maximize my chat unless i unlock my chat and resize :o
10:37.59Kuraxdies
10:38.04Ellipsisas a native english speaker I have no freaking clue what Blizz was thinking when they named it that
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10:38.17QuantumDeltalol :<
10:38.36QuantumDeltait could do with being a bit more descript though
10:39.01Orionshock...  casting bar goes left to right for 90% of it's uses, Mirror bar goes right to left for breath time left?
10:39.27Orionshockor it is mirroring the cast bar at the top of the screen ?
10:39.38[SW]Dodgesome one here who can help me with the Performance tab of OptionHouse? i would like to know what  the value in the CPU column is. :)
10:40.02EllipsisOrionshock: cast bar moves right->left for any channeled spell
10:40.03CIA-903antiarc * r67266 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/NPCModules/ (Karazhan/Nightbane.lua ZulAman/Zuljin.lua): Threat-2.0: Fix legacy problems with the Zul'jin and Nightbane modules.
10:40.18OrionshockEllipsis: ya like i said for 90% of it's uses :D
10:40.24QuantumDeltaAntiarc is on a roll oO
10:40.35QuantumDeltaThough I still think you should sleep bro :P
10:40.50AntiarcRed Bull gives you wings and caffeine shakes.
10:40.50Ellipsisis it just my server, or did dailies forget to update today?
10:40.54QuantumDeltarofl
10:41.03QuantumDeltaI hope you don't have work today :P
10:41.34AntiarcI work from home/for myself
10:41.38QuantumDeltaEllipsis what time did you do the dailys?
10:41.40QuantumDelta...
10:41.41AntiarcSo I do, but I can start my workday at 1 PM :P
10:41.44QuantumDeltaenvious :p
10:41.50Zhinjiooooo, I get to do shartuul tonight
10:41.52AntiarcHeh. I work 80-100 hour weeks :P
10:41.52EllipsisQuantumDelta: 2 hours ago
10:42.02Zhinjioor rather, perhaps.... I get to let shartuul make a fool of me again tonight
10:42.11Ellipsisit's 3:40 and they haven't reset, and my quest log says "The new day starts in ."
10:42.13QuantumDeltaouchy ;p
10:42.22QuantumDeltastill think i'd prefer it to being a civil servant though :<
10:42.50QuantumDeltaEllipsis the dailys reset at 2 on the US servers?
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10:43.01Ellipsis3, unless it changed recently
10:43.22QuantumDeltaand you didn't logoff between completing your dailys and the reset?
10:43.34EllipsisI did
10:43.35QuantumDeltanot that it should matter if your reset is at 3
10:43.38QuantumDeltaok....well
10:43.53QuantumDeltathere is/was a bug if you did your dailys 1hour prior to the reset, that you wouldn't get your dailys reset
10:44.06QuantumDeltaif you logged off within that hour it wouldn't update your char
10:44.09QuantumDeltauntil the next day
10:44.18Orionshock... patch 2.5: /readycheck has been properly renamed to /sanitycheck  ... most players will prolly fail but that'll be fixed in a later patch... much later patch....
10:44.27QuantumDeltaLOL
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10:45.10EllipsisQuantumDelta: ugh, seriously?
10:45.30QuantumDeltaAye, repeatable bug blizz haven't fixed since 2...2?
10:45.44ZhinjioQuantumDelta: I've done my dailies and handed them in within minutes of it resetting, and then done them again. Never experienced what you're describing.
10:45.49ZeksieAntiarc: Why don't you use UnitCanAttack("player", unit)
10:45.53EllipsisZhinjio: but did you log out?
10:45.57Zeksieinstead of all that stuff in the pastey.
10:45.58QuantumDeltaZhinjio it's fine as long as you don't log out
10:46.10ArrowmasterZeksie: because thats buggy
10:46.19Ellipsisyou can attack MCed targets
10:46.33CIA-903whyv * r67267 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua:
10:46.33CIA-9Recount:
10:46.33CIA-9- updated zhTW
10:46.57Zeksietried "not UnitCanAssist()" ?
10:47.06Arrowmasterstill buggy
10:47.06[SW]Dodgesome one here who can help me with the Performance tab of OptionHouse? i would like to know what  the value in the CPU column is. :)
10:47.09Zeksiebleh
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10:47.17AntiarcZeksie: Units that switch attackability
10:47.21baer_moin.
10:47.22Arrowmasteractually that one might be better
10:47.25AntiarcIllidan, for example
10:47.30AntiarcOr mind-controlled units.
10:47.56Zeksiedo they fire a UNIT_FACTION?
10:47.56baer_ok, who volunteers to tell me, what exactly "GrimReaper" is good for? (-:
10:48.13[Ammo]isn't that an addon that shows the last X events that led to the death of a player?
10:48.26[Ammo]-> analysis after the fact
10:48.36QuantumDeltaIt is
10:48.38[Ammo]-> zomg only 1 hot tick in the last 5 seconds before he died?! HEALERS SLACK
10:48.39Zeksiequick mouseover of ppls combat log basically
10:48.40[Ammo]etc
10:48.41baer_ah, ok.
10:48.57QuantumDeltaIt's quite useful for analysing tank death on new bosses ;p
10:49.00baer_but ain't that the same functionality which is already (or should be already) in recount) ?
10:49.15QuantumDeltanot everyone has recount ;)
10:49.16Zeksieyes.. but you don't have to dive thru charts and menus etc.
10:49.22Zeksieit's just there
10:49.23baer_:D
10:49.34QuantumDeltaand GR has it more accessible of course since it's "For purpose"
10:49.34AntiarcI don't know yet, Zeksie
10:49.34baer_that sounds quite interesting.
10:49.44AntiarcIt's a hacky fix for the problem until I have more info.
10:50.01ArrowmasterAntiarc: you know 'not UnitCanAssist(unitid)' might work better, trying to think of a situation it wouldnt work in
10:50.02Zeksiei think UNIT_FACTION is quite reliable, they standardised it from some other mix of events many patches ago
10:50.14QuantumDeltaanything we can do to help you get that info Antiarc or is it just unit command knowledge? ;\
10:50.44ZeksieArrowmaster: Only problem i see is with Leothras, when CanAssist is not the same for everyone on those demons. but those are limited cases
10:50.55AntiarcI need someone with an event viewer to go find a mob like that and toggle the attackability on and off
10:50.59AntiarcAnd find an event pattern
10:51.08ArrowmasterZeksie: you nobody can assist those demons afail
10:51.15QuantumDeltashame i don't have a hunter
10:51.16Arrowmasters/you//
10:51.26Arrowmasterafail lol
10:51.34baer_btw, did that assessment-guy show up, lately? :D
10:51.35Zeksieyeah. nm that. was thinking of cross purposes
10:51.55ArrowmasterZeksie: you cant even assist friendly npcs though
10:52.12Arrowmasteractually that does sound like the best solution
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10:52.23_ranehow would i go on about checking if player has certain buff/debuff? i figured i should use this event "PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED"
10:52.27Zeksieit's still early. not had 2nd coffee yet
10:52.54ArrowmasterAntiarc: im for changing it to 'not UnitCanAssist(unitid)'
10:53.26AntiarcWhat's that give, exactly?
10:53.42ZeksieUnitCanAssist("player", "target") can i assist target
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10:54.06AntiarcAs in "assist off of" or what?
10:54.12Arrowmasteryeah
10:54.18AntiarcAre mind-controlled units assistable?
10:54.19Arrowmasterif you can /assist them
10:54.22Arrowmasterno
10:54.32Arrowmasteror atleast im 99% sure no
10:54.50Arrowmasterbut friendly npcs arent assistable either
10:55.02mitch0I found that if UnitCanAssist() returns true, then you can cast beneficial spells on it. dunno if this helps in the current discussion though ;)
10:55.11mitch0arrow: some of them are
10:55.24Arrowmasterreally since when? and which ones?
10:55.30Zeksiei think it's more a faction thing. if you can 'help' them
10:55.31mitch0the green ones :)
10:55.40Arrowmastermitch0: they werent last i checked
10:55.46Nandinia lot of "escort" type quest NPCs can be assisted
10:55.53Nandiniand you can usually buff and heal them
10:55.59mitch0arrow: at least I use UnitCanAssist() in RangeCheck to check if I can get meaningful results for IsSpellInRange() with friendly spells
10:56.25Arrowmasterah that would explain most friendly npcs then
10:56.28mitch0the guards in shatt ar not assistable though
10:56.35Zeksieand i use it in ZOMG isntead of checking Dead/Exists/Charmed bla bla
10:56.36Arrowmasterare they buffable?
10:56.37CIA-903ananhaid * r67268 10Omen/Localization/zhCN.lua:
10:56.37CIA-9Omen:
10:56.37CIA-9- zhCN update.
10:56.54mitch0yes
10:56.59Arrowmasterhealable?
10:57.07mitch0if UnitCanAssist() returns true, you can buff/heal/cleanse them
10:57.33Arrowmasterremember the npc in aq20 that you could cast mark of the wild on but nothing else
10:57.45mitch0hm
10:57.49mitch0I haven't met him/her :)
10:57.57Arrowmastersrsly?
10:57.58ncd|Aileenmh, I'm searching for a wow-Api Function which returns the Names of all the Items whichs name contain a given String
10:58.02ncd|Aileenany suggestions?
10:58.03mitch0but RangeCheck would return bad results for such an NPC
10:58.04Zeksiethey did change things like that some time ago. prolly when they standardise the UNIT_FACTION event
10:58.12Arrowmasteryouve never met the shirtless duelweilder of pwnage
10:58.36mitch0I don't think I've ever been to AQ
10:58.44NandiniAileen, there's no such function
10:58.51ncd|Aileen:(
10:59.00Arrowmasterwait did he duelweild or was he barefisted, i cant remember
10:59.37CIA-903antiarc * r67269 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/ (Localization/enUS.lua SingleTarget.lua): Omen: Add "color your bar something else" functionality. This is just a stand-in hack until the full "customize any bar you want" functionality is in.
11:00.19Silviu-slaps F'ncd|Aileen in the face and yells "I'm Rick James, bitch!"
11:00.46QuantumDeltaby the way Antiarc 'nother bug report (purely gui omen) for ya if ya like :P
11:01.00AntiarcSure.
11:01.02QuantumDeltathough I can't confirm it cuz it ain't happening to me
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11:01.17mitch0hehe
11:01.22Pkekyo|edu"Running internet services on Windows is like playing russian roulette with a Glock"
11:01.24Pkekyo|edu:>
11:01.27KuraxOmen should emulate threats in arena by counting how many enemies targeting self =P
11:01.43QuantumDeltaWarlock in guild is having omen pop up when he has active when solo turned off/hide when not needed on
11:01.52AntiarcQuantumDelta: I fixed that a few minutes ago.
11:01.58QuantumDeltaAhh
11:02.09QuantumDeltaI'll let him know :)
11:02.20sag_ich_nichtasdasfasfasf
11:02.26Orionshockwow wiki's for lethoeras states that: As of 08/02/07 Inner Demons are bugged, and if a players pet lands the killing blow on the demon, the player will still be mind controlled.
11:02.31sag_ich_nichtAntiarc you got my message/zipfile? :P
11:02.31Orionshockany validity to this?
11:02.48Antiarcsag_ich_nicht: Yes, thank you.
11:02.51sag_ich_nicht8D
11:03.00CIA-903antiarc * r67270 10Omen/Bindings.xml: Omen: Fixed a problem with duplicate binding headers.
11:03.29QuantumDeltaHe said thanks muchly Antiarc ;)
11:03.33AntiarcWelcome :)
11:04.34sag_ich_nichtalso something is still fucking over CPU usage
11:04.46sag_ich_nichtespecially with many targets
11:05.09sag_ich_nichtsome of the screensh have expo open and you might see my frameright counter there as well :P
11:05.14sag_ich_nicht*screenshots
11:05.16Nandinihmm i wonder if people would find any use for a combat activity level addon where all you see is the number of recent combat log events grouped by source reaction and destination reaction
11:05.24Pkekyo|edusecks
11:05.51AntiarcAwesome, sag_ich_nicht
11:05.54AntiarcI really appreciate it
11:06.23sag_ich_nichti'd open a jira ticket for it but i wouldn't know where to fit it and describe it :P
11:06.37Nandinifor example, in the past 60 seconds, there were 30 horde vs. npc events, 75 horde vs. ally events, 10 ally vs. npc events
11:07.12sag_ich_nichtthis is especially noticable at the trash to Solarian and generally in mount hyjal
11:09.44sag_ich_nichti think it might not even be the threat calcs themself but omen rendering, but since it also happens with omen hidden i doubt it, also someone mentioned an issue yesterday with Threat-2.0 going insane in terms of syncing & continueing to snyc out of combat
11:09.58CIA-903zeksie * r67271 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Fixed rogue poisons not showning up in menus when item cache is empty.
11:10.53Zeksieonly bad laggyness i had was when Illidan did his Flame Burst on the raid
11:11.18sag_ich_nichtZeksie: you been to hyjal lately?
11:11.28Zeksieyeah, didn't have any probs with that
11:11.32sag_ich_nichtweird
11:12.39Daemonacould be related to re-rendering combat log when changing tabs?
11:12.39Zeksiediff pc will have diff tollerance for how much cpu is taken by scripting
11:12.39sag_ich_nichtDaemona: mhm true
11:12.39sag_ich_nichtmight be
11:12.42sag_ich_nichtZeksie: true as well
11:12.49Silviu-Antiarc http://ace.pastey.net/84786 , when using Soulshatter is still there :(
11:12.50sag_ich_nichtZeksie: what machine you have?
11:12.57sag_ich_nichtOffenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 21/2048MB (1.03%) RAM free.
11:12.58sag_ich_nichtIt has an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, Virtual Cable 1, and 532.6 GB of 1294.81 GB available on 2 drive(s).
11:12.58AntiarcYeah, I'm working on that right now actually
11:13.00sag_ich_nicht>.>
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11:13.04Silviu-Oky ;p
11:13.08Daemonawell i had issues on a e6750 with 4gb ram and 8800gts ;)
11:13.11Zeksiee6850, 4gig ddr2 667, geforce 8800gt
11:13.19sag_ich_nichtmhm
11:13.19sag_ich_nichtweird
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11:14.03Orionshock.. any chance we can get DI added to BigWigs - Common Auras?
11:14.30sag_ich_nicht...that'd be awesome
11:14.34Zeksiegood idea
11:14.43sag_ich_nichtwhy didn't i think of that ><
11:14.45sag_ich_nichtalso
11:14.51sag_ich_nichtZeksie get x-perl on the svn :P
11:14.56Zeksiesh :)
11:15.01CIA-903aviana * r67272 10Numen/ (Numen.lua NumenButtons.lua):
11:15.01CIA-9Numen:
11:15.02CIA-9- Fix for blue "drag box" not appearing in 2.4
11:15.13Zeksietoo busy to do that atm :)
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11:15.33sag_ich_nichtalso anything but singletarget mode is completely hosed for me
11:15.39sag_ich_nichtand for other people in my raid as well
11:15.48sag_ich_nicht(and yes i made sure to force everyone and their mom to update before the raid)
11:16.59OrionshockFunkeh`: wtb DI in BW common Auras :D
11:17.31sag_ich_nichtbut i think this might be related to the target change issue you just fixed :P
11:17.46sag_ich_nichtalso could this issue have caused a memory leak? :P
11:18.21CIA-903kurax * r67273 10Omen/Modules/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Omen: Update zhCN locale
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11:20.00nevcairielAntiarc: some guy complained yesterday that "always show self" isnt working at all, is that bugged or not in?
11:20.14Antiarcnevcairiel: I made a fix on Friday, was he running the latest?
11:20.20nevcairielyes he was
11:20.38AntiarcI'll check it
11:20.41CivrockI noticed that, too.
11:21.22nevcairielits not that bad of a bug
11:21.28nevcairielif you show 10 and are not in those
11:21.30nevcairieldont worry =P
11:22.49sag_ich_nicht[12:09] <Orionshock> on a lighter note, our guild took down FLK - first time :D <--lol
11:22.56nevcairielflk?
11:23.02sag_ich_nichtthat's cute Orionshock 8D
11:23.04sag_ich_nichtkarathress
11:23.07Orionshocksag_ich_nicht: :P
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11:23.08nevcairieloh
11:23.16Orionshockwe sucked it for ~2months before doing that
11:23.17sag_ich_nichtthat boss is such a pushover
11:23.30sag_ich_nichtwhat the hell
11:23.41sag_ich_nichti hope you had many internal issues that explain this
11:23.50sag_ich_nichtand i also hope you already killed tidewalker
11:24.05Orionshockmost of the time we had random healers that where under geared
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11:24.13sag_ich_nichtlol
11:24.20sag_ich_nichtenjoy your tidewalker wiping :P
11:24.41sag_ich_nichtprotip: put a druid or paladin in front of him
11:24.44sag_ich_nichtway easier
11:25.59QuantumDeltaindeed sag_ich_nicht :<
11:26.13kalahassii enjoyed vashj, phase 3  poison.. i used  potions divine shield, and 2 sec before vashj i died :P
11:26.32QuantumDeltaaww man
11:26.39QuantumDeltavashj p3 is SO much fun with a low DPS raid
11:26.45sag_ich_nichtlol
11:26.56QuantumDeltathat wasn't sarcasm (for once)!
11:27.06sag_ich_nichtwhat do you consider lowdps on her? :P
11:27.24QuantumDeltaminute + after her enrage to kill
11:27.26Matrix110low dps means dieing 5mins after enrage:P
11:27.36kebinusanI always enjoy getting doomed right as azgalor dies
11:27.36sag_ich_nichtfacepalm
11:27.40sag_ich_nichti meant in numbers you fools
11:27.45QuantumDeltaeh
11:27.57QuantumDelta12-15k DPS?
11:27.57sag_ich_nichti hate azgalor... i always die :/
11:28.05sag_ich_nichtpfffff
11:28.11kalahassisag_ich_nich: why?
11:28.12sag_ich_nichttry 10k :P
11:28.24QuantumDeltawe usually keep 20k+ ;\
11:28.29sag_ich_nichtkalahassi: because LOL 6K MANA RAIDBUFFED LOL
11:28.52QuantumDeltatankadin sag_ich_nicht? :P
11:28.56sag_ich_nichtno, ret paladin
11:29.00QuantumDeltaah
11:29.01CIA-903ananhaid * r67274 10BigWigs_NajAssist/BigWigs_NajAssist.toc:
11:29.01CIA-9BigWigs_NajAssist:
11:29.01CIA-9- zhCN update.
11:29.28QuantumDeltawe just put melee on the doomguards on azgalor
11:29.30sag_ich_nichtproblem is: if i die, the rest of the raid will be more likely to die as well because JoW will fall of the mob >.>
11:29.37QuantumDeltabare -> boss tankadin/war @ adds
11:29.59sag_ich_nichtoh wait
11:30.01QuantumDeltano need for jow when DPS pot properly!
11:30.03sag_ich_nichti confused azgalor
11:30.04sag_ich_nichtwith
11:30.08sag_ich_nichtnext boss
11:30.09sag_ich_nichtdamnitt
11:30.11sag_ich_nichtstupid me
11:30.12sag_ich_nichtD:
11:30.21sag_ich_nicht~emulate sag_ich_nicht
11:30.22purlbecause i am retarded
11:30.23QuantumDeltaprevious boss?
11:30.39sag_ich_nichterm yes
11:30.42sag_ich_nichtjesus christ
11:30.45sag_ich_nichti should go back to bed
11:30.48sag_ich_nichtthis isn't funny
11:30.49sag_ich_nicht:/
11:31.11sag_ich_nichtbut my boss isn't calling me back
11:31.15sag_ich_nichtstupid moron
11:31.15CIA-903snago * r67275 10IHML/locales/ (5 files):
11:31.15CIA-9IHML:
11:31.15CIA-9- Use #showtooltip item:12345 to always show the correct icon (as long as it's in your cache)
11:31.15CIA-9- Use /targetexact instead of /target
11:32.31Trell_can trash in ZA be trapped by hunters?
11:32.50Trell_we're lacking mages for todays run, in fact, we're lacking A mage.
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11:34.07sag_ich_nicht[13:29] <QuantumDelta> no need for jow when DPS pot properly! <--you realize that JoW is more mp5 than super mana potions on cooldown, right?
11:34.20sag_ich_nicht[13:32] <Trell_> can trash in ZA be trapped by hunters? <--ya
11:34.27sag_ich_nichtmostly
11:34.41sag_ich_nichtbut you'll have to throw stuns/roots at the lookouts
11:35.39charonmorning
11:35.56evlroot + stun is a good failsafe
11:36.06evlthey are immune to incapacitates like blind/gouge
11:36.24Trell_the...lookouts?
11:36.28sag_ich_nichtyeah
11:36.29Trell_you mean the scouts?
11:36.38sag_ich_nichtyeah i forgot what they're called
11:36.41Trell_we just charge stun them
11:36.45sag_ich_nichtugh
11:36.53Trell_charge/felguard/concussive
11:36.59nevcairielcharge stun + roots
11:37.00Trell_cheap shot/kidney shot
11:37.01nevcairiel= wn
11:37.02nevcairiel*win
11:37.02sag_ich_nichtfelguard D:
11:37.03Trell_all works
11:37.05sag_ich_nichtD:
11:37.21nevcairielwe have our Tank charge him so he has all the other mobs on him
11:37.23nevcairielthen root
11:37.25nevcairieland kill
11:37.35Trell_they go down so quick it isn't really a problem
11:37.44nevcairielthey run so fast too =P
11:37.51nevcairielthe scouts in Sunwell are fun :D
11:38.09mikmatrue
11:38.22nevcairielwe distract them with a rogue, then on command all caster fire up what they have
11:38.33Matrix110same
11:38.34Orionshock<PROTECTED>
11:38.35nevcairielstill they survive sometimes <.<
11:39.47evldistract is nice
11:39.52evlmindsoothe doubly so
11:39.56Matrix110first few pulls werent so nice for us
11:40.04Matrix110especially when evl distracted without saying smth!
11:40.10evli was having a beer
11:40.16QuantumDeltaI do sag_ich_nicht :P
11:40.21evlI need my Flask of Relentless Alcoholic Assault
11:40.29QuantumDeltabut what classes actually go oom if they're potting properly? :<
11:40.40CIA-903antiarc * r67276 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:
11:40.41CIA-9Threat-2.0: Fixed several problems with transactional commits. This just may
11:40.41CIA-9resolve all outstanding threat discrepancies; should definitely fix Soulshatter
11:40.41CIA-9errors, and should produce far better results for many other classes.
11:41.05evlAntiarc: Nothing beats a good old "may just solve" :D
11:41.13Kalroth:D
11:41.31QuantumDeltahaha
11:41.35QuantumDelta<3
11:41.36CIA-903antiarc * r67277 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:
11:41.36CIA-9Threat-2.0: YAY DEBUG CODE
11:41.36CIA-9(not yay)
11:41.37KalrothAntiarc is a true programmer, nothing is certain!
11:41.45KalrothYAY
11:42.13evlI had an idea once
11:42.18kebinusanI love blizzard for putting dailies near kazzak
11:42.19Cartaslol
11:42.19evl!ImAProgrammer
11:42.25evlI_AM_PROGRAMMER = true
11:42.36Cartasevl: I had an idea once
11:42.38evlif (I_AM_PROGRAMMER) self:Print("poo")
11:42.48KuraxTomorrow....it's tomorrow....just tomorrow....
11:43.03CartasJust once, evl? :O
11:43.07StanzillaAntiarc: Omen-Omen r67269 / Threat-2.0 r67277\Config.lua:250: attempt to call method 'IsFuBarMinimapAttached' (a nil value)
11:43.11Kurax2.4 goes live on CN servers =]
11:43.15evlabout debbugging :P
11:43.16AntiarcStanzilla: Thanks
11:43.22CartasSuuuureeee.
11:43.36evlAren't gold farmers going out of business?
11:43.43evlWith 300g+ from just dailies possible?
11:44.05nevcairielevl: some people rather work real life for their money *shrug :P
11:44.07HealthKalroth: DICK
11:44.15kebinusanevl: never
11:44.16KalrothHealth: You wish!
11:44.19kebinusanpeople are still lazy
11:44.22sag_ich_nicht[13:40] <QuantumDelta> but what classes actually go oom if they're potting properly? :< <--more than you think :>
11:44.26Kalrothnevcairiel is lazy!
11:44.34nevcairielyes
11:44.36nevcairielyes i am
11:44.38evlnevcairiel: before they could atleast mail you the loot
11:44.54Orionshockevl:  ppl are lazy still and greedy
11:44.56evlI'd gladly pay 500-1000 USD right now for some Dragonspine :P
11:45.02sag_ich_nichtlol
11:45.03Kalrothhahaha
11:45.04sag_ich_nichtmoron
11:45.08sag_ich_nichtyou'll never get it
11:45.09sag_ich_nichtever
11:45.13evl:((:(:(
11:45.14sag_ich_nichtand neither will i
11:45.15sag_ich_nicht:(
11:45.21evlmy guild doesnt do Gruul runs
11:45.24Kalrothevl: I know of several ret paladins with it!
11:45.42Matrix110we arent doing gruul runs because we would wipe there i bet:P
11:45.58evlMatrix110: give gruul runs, takes us 20 min max
11:46.25Matrix110then people might want SSC
11:46.33evl80% 325 haste rating uptime, I can just gear myself to shits and the other rogue with it will always pass me on long fights
11:46.44mitch0so, is the new content any good? I dind't have time to actually play :(
11:46.51evlmitch0: yeah, pretty nice and tuned
11:47.00KalrothI love wiping on Kalecgos, it's soooo much fun. Yes it is. Yuuup.
11:47.02mitch0where is this new place btw? :)
11:47.05evlmitch0: and if you like demon ass you're in for a treat on Brut!
11:47.07CartasHaha Kalroth.
11:47.14CartasYou'll get him soon enough!: D
11:47.14Matrix110well i guess we could do gruul somedays....
11:47.14HealthKalroth: l2p
11:47.32KalrothCartas: Hopefully tonight, if people have learned to spread out. :p
11:47.32CIA-903antiarc * r67278 10Omen/Config.lua: Omen: Disable FuBar-related plugin options if the library isn't present.
11:47.32Cartas3% wipes last night. :(
11:47.32mitch0evl: demon ass?
11:47.40evlMatrix110: It's the best trinket in the game for fury/rogue/hunter even surpassing the one from Kil'Jaeden zZzzz
11:47.42nevcairielyes, demon ass
11:47.47evlmitch0: You'll know when you get there :D
11:47.49KalrothCartas: We had two sub-5% wipes :P
11:47.58mitch0evl: :)
11:48.05KalrothAnd the NPC died on us twice as well
11:48.06nevcairielthe last 10% are the hardest part about kalecgos
11:48.19Matrix110no
11:48.31Kalrothnevcairiel: yeah, that's where the dragon gets pissed (or banished, depending on your dps suckage)
11:48.31sag_ich_nicht[13:47] <evl> Matrix110: It's the best trinket in the game for fury/rogue/hunter even surpassing the one from Kil'Jaeden zZzzz <--you forgot ret paladin :P
11:48.54evlokay physical dps then
11:48.57nevcairielKalroth: our kill was with like 11 healers or something, talk about dps suckage =P
11:49.01sag_ich_nichtalso
11:49.01evlretri paladins are only in the game to make rogue dps look good
11:49.08Kalrothnevcairiel: We got two epixxx on second trash clear, so it's all good!
11:49.11sag_ich_nichthunters shouldn't take the damn trinket
11:49.15evlhunters?
11:49.19Kalrothnevcairiel: Really? No wonder our healers are whining with 8-9 healers
11:49.20Matrix1108healers on Kalecgos
11:49.22evlofc, they have 2700 DPS on some fights eith it
11:49.24Nandiniit's awesome for cat druids as well
11:49.27evlwas only <2.3 when it was crap
11:49.39sag_ich_nichtat least BM hunters shouldn't... fucks up their steady shot rotation :P
11:49.42nevcairielwe usually over-heal encounters
11:49.43mitch0evl: this one? http://wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&1.24882#72359
11:49.46nevcairielworks quite good for us
11:49.58nevcairieli hope brutallus dies tonight
11:50.06Kalrothnevcairiel: Same here, 8 healers for BT up until Bloodboil, then it's 9 healers the rest of the way
11:50.14Matrix110how many healers do you take there ? :P
11:50.18vithossag_ich_nicht: it's better for BM hunters than any other
11:50.23evlmitch0: yeah :D
11:50.33sag_ich_nichtvithos: what
11:50.34HealthKalroth: Give me a wws from a BT clear!
11:50.36nevcairiellast night 8 .. best try was 5% i think, going with 7 today for a kill
11:50.44sag_ich_nichtevery theorycrafting thread tells me differently
11:50.48mitch0evl: oh, if this stuff is post BT (or post gruul rather :) then I probably won't see it in a while :)
11:50.48evlproblem with brut isn't healing power, it's landing the big ones on the stomps...
11:50.50AntiarcRogues get 30% passive haste, haste is multiplicative, therefore haste trinkets should be rogue priority >_>
11:51.01KalrothHealth: We don't have any BT WWS's, we usually clear it in about 4 hours though, so we're doing fine :)
11:51.01AntiarcSicne we get  30%+ more use out of them than anyone else.
11:51.04evlAntiarc: AMEN BROTHER
11:51.13[Ammo]rogues should be tied to a pole and used to lure bosses
11:51.21evlAntiarc: not forgetting Blade Flurry aswell
11:51.25KalrothDST = rogue first, anyone saying anything else should reroll a warlock!
11:51.26[Ammo]female rogues can be tied to a totally different pole
11:51.30AntiarcRight, but BF doesn't have 100% uptime :P
11:51.38evl[Ammo]: UR MUM HAS DAT JOB LAWL
11:51.41vithossag_ich_nicht: it fucks up the other rotations, not BM
11:51.52evlAntiarc: Drums, BF, SnD, DST = zomg
11:52.08AntiarcDon't forget 2x Mongoose.
11:52.14AntiarcAnd the 2pc T6.
11:52.18evlyeah
11:52.19AntiarcAnd Windfury.
11:52.24evlyes,moar
11:52.31vithossag_ich_nicht: i have a DST and raid as BM
11:52.40QuantumDeltanone of ours do sag_ich_nicht :<
11:52.50QuantumDeltaonly ppl that complain are hunters on occasion when they're too cheap to use felmana
11:53.04NandiniDST and berserker's call have about the same effect on cat druid dps, they're the best two trinkets for us i think
11:53.34Kalrothkitties can fsck off@3! BARE OR DIE!
11:54.12Nandinithere are times when i'm not needed to tank, and those times i'm happy to have gear that maximizes my contribution :)
11:54.23Nandinibut i defer to other melee dps first of course
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11:58.06CIA-903whyv * r67279 10Omen/Localization/zhTW.lua:
11:58.06CIA-9Omen
11:58.06CIA-9- Update zhTW
11:59.08CIA-903dodge * r67280 10CoolDownButtons/core.lua: CoolDownButtons: reduced CPU usage
11:59.12mitch0damn, I need to get some time to play
11:59.25mitch0this sunwell stuff sounds fun
12:00.38CIA-903pettigrow * r67281 10Omen/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Omen: frFR Update
12:01.48sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: regarding r67265 you should also delete the externals for LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 then :P
12:04.30Antiarcsag_ich_nicht: It's not fully deprecated
12:04.37AntiarcI still use some callbacks I need to implement locally.
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12:08.31nevcairieldoes omen use your new GUID<->Name lookup yet?
12:08.35nevcairieli think i missed the commit :D
12:08.40Antiarcnevcairiel: Yes
12:09.13nevcairielah there
12:11.18CIA-903antiarc * r67282 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Disable modules when Omen is toggled off. Not a whole lot of sense in continuing to run UI update code for a hidden UI.
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12:12.51StanzillaAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/84789
12:12.59CIA-903whyv * r67283 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/Localization/zhTW.lua:
12:13.00CIA-9Omen
12:13.00CIA-9- Updated zhTW
12:14.47nevcairielAntiarc: a guildy of mine just said that setting the blizzard combatlog to "self" screws omen up, while setting it to "everything" works fine
12:14.50nevcairielis that even possible?
12:15.22CIA-903antiarc * r67284 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix a completely retarded version check bug. Yes, let's compare the user's Omen revision to remote users' ThreatLib revision. That's an AWESOME IDEA.
12:15.23AntiarcNot that I know of
12:15.24nevcairiel(unless blizzard screwed the events up and _UNFILTERED isnt really unfiltered)
12:16.01Zeksiethink we'd have noticed that one
12:17.16ncd|Aileenmh, is there a possibility to extract the Itemname from the itemLink?
12:17.29Orionshockncd|Aileen: yes
12:17.30Zeksieyeah
12:17.38ncd|Aileenhow? :)
12:17.43Zeksieor you could just do GetItemInfo(itemLink)
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12:18.03Orionshockhttp://www.wowwiki.com/ItemString
12:18.06ncd|Aileenah, thanks
12:18.07Zeksieneeds to be in cache for that tho
12:18.11ncd|AileenI'm dumb/blind :(
12:18.18Orionshockncd|Aileen: regexes it's a btch :D
12:18.23Silviu-nods at ncd|Aileen
12:18.49CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r157 10/trunk/TinyTipOptions/ (9 files in 4 dirs): TinyTipOptions: Drycode 2.4 + AceConfig-3.0 conversion
12:18.49CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r158 10/trunk/TinyTipOptions/libs: TinyTipOptions: Fix externals.
12:19.35mitch0how come tinytip is back on wowace svn?
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12:19.45Silviu-Is not
12:19.49Silviu-Is on google code
12:19.50Silviu-:)
12:20.01mitch0ah, only TinyTipOptions is here?
12:20.09wereHamstersee the revision number (r158)
12:20.11Silviu-here is the old one ;)
12:20.50elusifi've updated cartographer a few times since the scan but wow is still telling me it's out of date
12:20.50Lukian[Ammo], ping?
12:21.05elusifany ideas why this is the case?
12:21.22Zeksieupdated from where?
12:21.40Lukian[Ammo], "Throw dispelled from npc"
12:21.44Lukian[Ammo], "Maul dispelled from npc"
12:21.45Lukianoops
12:21.45elusiffiles.wowace.com ftw!
12:21.57elusifmost of them had been updated within hours of my download
12:22.07elusiflast time i downloaded was a few days after teh patch
12:22.49StanzillaAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/84790
12:22.59Zhinjioelusif: whether or not WoW sees something as updated has only to do with what number is seen in the TOC file. It has nothing to do with how new your local files are.
12:23.16Zhinjioelusif: it has to have a TOC of 20400 to be seen as "Up To Date" by WoW.
12:23.16nevcairielStanzilla: fixed
12:23.28elusifso why doesn't the new cart have that number?
12:23.35elusifis it like beta?
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12:23.55Zhinjiolaziness? Hasn't been verified by the author? it doesn't matter?
12:23.57Zeksiecos noone's been bothered to change that 1 little digit.. nothing more complicated
12:23.59OrionshockAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/84791  -- during leo
12:24.37elusifcool :)
12:24.44elusifty guys
12:25.15Zhinjiono shit... my sunfury supplies bag had a badge of justice in it!
12:25.22nevcairielOrionshock: updated when? that was fixed last night
12:25.27elusifalso, do any of you know a good mod for sharing ignores and freinds and having more that the wow limit on friends and ignore?
12:25.36Zeksieor.. you could try updating again, cos mine says 20400. then go and think about how you shouldn't complain about things that were already done? ;)
12:25.40elusifignoremore doesn't seem to work
12:25.49elusifand friends and ignore mod is buggy
12:25.55elusifor maybe they were both just conflicting
12:27.10Orionshockeh...
12:27.16Orionshocki know i updated tonight
12:28.01nevcairielwhat revision do you run?
12:28.15QuantumDeltanevcairiel looks like its to do with the changes Antiarc made today to me?
12:28.37QuantumDeltaoh wait
12:28.39QuantumDeltawrong pastey
12:28.44AntiarcAha, I see it.
12:28.48Orionshocknevcairiel: 66983
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12:29.35QuantumDelta(13:22) Stanzilla: Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/84790 was what i was lookin at ;p
12:29.48nevcairieli fixed that one
12:30.08Orionshocknevcairiel: k
12:31.19nevcairielAntiarc: the pull aggro bar updates too slow, the tank himself goes to 110% then drops to 100 :P
12:31.53OrionshockAntiarc: infact the whole update thing is too slow... makzie it faster plz :D
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12:33.09AntiarcThe tank going to 100% is expected
12:33.13AntiarcSince he's the aggro holder?
12:33.38nevcairielbut the tank going to 110% ?
12:33.42nevcairielthen dropping back to 100
12:33.45nevcairielwhen pull bar updates
12:33.53AntiarcIf he has aggro that's correct
12:33.56AntiarcUnless I misunderstand
12:34.02AntiarcHe's going to 110% while he's had aggro for a bit?
12:34.04QuantumDeltathink they're just complaining about hte speed it updates ;p
12:34.21nevcairielAntiarc: yes, all the time, he still has aggro and goes to 110% or so
12:34.22AntiarcThe problem is that if it updates too fast, the boss targets someone else for a random ability and the pull aggro bar updates.
12:34.26AntiarcOoh, okay.
12:34.28AntiarcThat's a bug then!
12:34.32QuantumDeltahmm
12:34.35AntiarcWrong aggro unit. Shouldn't be hard to fix.
12:36.03AntiarcI think CIA died.
12:36.18nevcairielhttp://ace.pastey.net/84792
12:36.21nevcairieland i got that
12:36.24nevcairielnot sure what to make of it
12:36.44AntiarcWhat's that line read for you?
12:36.51nevcairieloh i know why
12:36.54nevcairielyou have wrong order
12:36.59nevcairiel(revs[v] < newestThreatVer or not revs[v])
12:37.02nevcairielcheck the not before
12:37.03nevcairiel:D
12:37.13Antiarcif onlyOutOfDate and ((revs[v] or 0) < (newestThreatVer or 0) or not revs[v]) or not onlyOutOfDate then
12:37.13nevcairielfixes
12:37.17AntiarcIs how my line reads right now
12:37.22nevcairielah
12:37.27nevcairielcheck the or not rev before
12:37.36AntiarcYeah
12:37.36AntiarcFixing
12:38.16AntiarcAnd yeah, CIA is lagging or dead.
12:38.38Lukian[Ammo], the above was with regard to sap
12:40.15AntiarcI'm going to bed now.
12:41.06QuantumDeltaGood :P
12:41.14QuantumDeltacrazy guy <3
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12:45.01CIA-903antiarc * r67285 10Omen/ (Frame.lua Omen.lua): Omen: Fix a problem with Standby and relogs.
12:45.01CIA-903nevcairiel * r67286 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: fix typo in versioncheck
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12:45.10QuantumDeltalol
12:45.46QuantumDelta*In my dying lagging breaths I must..... post news update....*
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12:48.39HobbyAntiarc: standby won't pop up when exiting cities anymore??
12:49.03QuantumDelta*Points at CIA-9* :P
12:50.15Hobbythe commit was general =P
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12:53.46ngcgood morning :)
12:55.33mitch0can baggins replace the normal bags like Advanced Bags?
12:55.42ngc|wowyeah
12:55.46ngc|wowbaggins is really good actually
12:55.57ngc|wowwith some of the additional addons
12:56.09kenlyricwoo, I woke up and my mod still worked. not a hallucination, apparently.
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12:59.11ngc|wowi just noticed that i have like 10 days /played just because of my interface. i hate it to have the same interface for more than 2 weeks :D
13:00.02CIA-10thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r159 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Updated for new TinyTipOptions.
13:00.02CIA-10thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r160 10/trunk/TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipOptions.lua TinyTipOptions.toc): TinyTipOptions: Format still sucks, but everything should work.
13:00.36kenlyricI edit my ui constantly but it has remained mostly similar over time.  http://media.abels.us/games/wow/UI_2006_truclinec.jpg  -> http://media.abels.us/games/wow/UI_2008-03-06_kenlyric.jpg
13:01.18chexsum<PROTECTED>
13:01.51ngc|wowwell
13:02.03ngc|wowthe chat stayed, thats all
13:02.08ngc|wowoh and fubar of course
13:02.14CIA-1003thrae * r67291 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc): TinyTip: 2.4 support - fixed problem caused by undocumented changes (IE, it should work now). Added new 2.4 TinyTipOptions support. Small API changes.
13:02.38CIA-1003thrae * r67292 10TinyTipBasic/ (TinyTipBasic.lua TinyTipBasic.toc): TinyTipBasic: 2.4 fixes.
13:04.38CIA-1003thrae * r67293 10TinyTipTargets/ (StandAloneConfig.lua TinyTipTargets.lua TinyTipTargets.toc): TinyTipTargets: 2.4 fixes. Added option to disable dynamic updating. Changed Focus, MA, and MT symbols into (F), (MA), and (MT) for non-Asian locales.
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13:05.10kenlyriccrawls into a fetal position upon seeing discord again.
13:06.02ngc|wowim still not sure about my raidframes
13:06.06ngc|wowi use pitbull at the moment
13:06.17ngc|wowbut i dont know where to put them -.-
13:06.20CIA-1003thrae * r67294 10TinyTipPositioning/ (TinyTipPositioning.lua TinyTipPositioning.toc): TinyTipPositioning: Fixed syntax error which led to addon disabling itself. ToC update.
13:09.06chdstHooray for TinyTip!
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13:10.39CIA-1003whyv * r67296 10Omen/Localization/zhTW.lua:
13:10.39CIA-10Omen
13:10.39CIA-10- updated zhTW
13:10.39CIA-1003thrae * r67295 10TinyTipOptions/ (8 files in 4 dirs): TinyTipOptions: Complete revamp for 2.4, now using AceConfig-3.0 and Blizzard's InterfaceOptions menu. Also, fixed a bug where setting values wasn't taking immediate effect.
13:11.20CIA-1003mitchell 07Ace3 * r67297 10RangeDisplay/: RangeDisplay: branching for Ace3 porting
13:13.41chexsumwhos responsible for libsharedmedia-3.0?
13:14.09chexsumits throwing a cant find callbackhandler lib error
13:14.22Superfly_can someone point me to an addon/wowwiki site for formula to calculate the maximum damage for spellcrit?
13:15.02mitch0superfly: I guess DrDamage tells max crit as well (not sure though)
13:16.50Kuraxhuh? CIA-10?
13:16.50chdsthttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0.toc
13:20.28[SW]Dodge~framexml
13:20.28purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/
13:21.26chexsumits probably my fault for trying to load libsml from initialize
13:23.22chexsumnope still erroring from onenable
13:23.27chexsum:(
13:23.52mitch0chexsum: do you have it listed in OptDeps (or Deps) ?
13:23.58CIA-1003mitchell * r67298 10CooldownToGo/CooldownToGo.toc: CooldownToGo: toc bump and X-Embeds fix
13:24.02chexsumyeah optdeps
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13:24.55Zpredatoris it possible for me to adjust the coloumns of grid?
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13:25.38Zpredator^^ anyone?
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13:26.47kenlyricclarify "adjust"
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13:28.52Zpredatorum
13:28.59Zpredatorset the columns as in rows
13:29.09Mathrigohello... hm... is the work on BEQL halted? on the wowace page its still 2.3 but in the files its updated yesterday...
13:29.36Zpredatoranyone know?
13:29.40Thraesleeps
13:29.58Vulcanusthe bEQL files that were updated yesterday were libraries, not the core files
13:30.33Superfly_the most interesting thing is the formula, i found some warlocks in wws do 2000+ DPS, and they can crit 10k, so I would like to check whats the key to crit such a large amount of damage
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13:30.42Mathrigohm k... because i cant make the new blizzard questlink... beql is overriding it... besides that its a good addon
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13:38.03Zpredatorhow to set grid into rows?
13:38.36ZhinjioKaelten: ping
13:39.02Zpredatoranswer me!
13:39.16Zpredatorlet my cries chill the living.
13:39.27Zpredator...naga?
13:39.41Zpredatorbeep
13:39.46KaaosaHuh?
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13:40.34Zpredatorhow to put grid into rows eg. 2x5
13:40.48Zpredatorassistance..
13:41.20KaaosaI'm not sure what you mean
13:41.26Zpredatorermm
13:41.29Zpredatoryou know grid right?
13:41.34KaaosaYes
13:41.44Grumyou cant
13:41.49Grumits groupbased
13:41.55charonZpredator: there's a toggle somewhere in the config for row or column based layout. (can't check what it's called at work)
13:41.58Grumso you always have one 'x5' dimension i think
13:42.15KaaosaLayout > Horizontal Groups
13:42.17Zpredatorcharon ive had a flcik through all the option and nothing
13:42.23charonwhat Kaaosa said
13:42.29Zpredatorhorizontal only gives it another dimension
13:42.40Zpredatornothing adjustible
13:42.44charonthen i'm afraid i misunderstood
13:42.51Zpredatorlike for eg
13:42.57Zpredatori have seen people with the grid bars
13:43.00Zpredatora single bar
13:43.03Zpredatorall the way across
13:43.07KaaosaI don't think that's Grid.
13:43.13Zpredatorim certain
13:43.17KaaosaUnless it's a module I haven't heard of.
13:43.27ZhinjioI thought you could setup custom groups, like by class and such
13:43.28Zpredatorim going to have to get the layouts i think :(
13:43.34Zhinjioits been awhile since I've looked at grid
13:43.41Zpredatoryou can Zh
13:43.44ZhinjioI'll shuddup, for I know not of what I speak
13:43.51vithosyou can't low units per column lower than 5
13:44.08vithosi'm bad at words.
13:44.09charonthen maybe set up a single custom group that contains the entire raid? :)
13:44.30Zpredatorwoah i think i found it
13:44.30vithosprobably, you can set it up to 40
13:44.31ZpredatorGridLayoutPlus
13:44.51_raneis there a way to make a macro wait a bit? i have two emotes and i'd like to have like 1 second pause between them
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13:45.19vithos_rane: /in 1 /cry
13:45.55vithosonly works for chat; it's a command that Ace2 implements
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13:46.22_ranethanks
13:46.25Zpredatorim lving the eepanels and mini chat combo
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13:47.15[VeXeD]Aye bay bay :3
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13:47.49KaaosaWhat's a mini chat
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13:49.02Zpredatorits minimizes chat windows
13:49.25AmadeoHow do Mages spec to level these days?
13:49.38KaaosaFrost, imo
13:49.46ZpredatorKaaosa: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/802523/minichat_with_eepanels/
13:49.47ramozThrae: did you add the Raid Icon option today? :O
13:49.54KaaosaAh, thanks
13:49.56AmadeoThat's what I figured!
13:49.57mitch0amadeo: I specced frost. then stayed frost :)
13:50.11AmadeoWhat happens in Antarctica, stays in Antarctica
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13:50.46KaaosaOh wow, that is a cool looking setup.
13:51.19Adirelle[SW]Dodge: ping
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13:51.26_ranewhat is eepanels?
13:51.35AmadeoI like how you have WoW playing in the main picture, and then over to the left it has - "9 Months of Gestation in 30 Seconds!"
13:51.42AmadeoOver on the Right, that is
13:52.39Zpredatoreepanels
13:52.48Zpredatoryou can create a background frame for anything
13:53.25chdstI am now in love with minichat.
13:53.30chdstThank you.
13:53.42_ranedoes the minichat have to be opened by pressing some tiny button?
13:53.46_raneor is there a hotkey as well?
13:54.01[VeXeD]could mobhealth/mobinfo be causing issues with my right click on my mouse?
13:54.52Zpredatorrane
13:54.57Zpredatoryou can also just hover it
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13:55.16Adirellehmm... what fisheyes authenticates user against ?
13:55.33Zhinjios
13:55.50Zhinjiowhich part of that video is doing the hiding of the chat frame? eepanel or mini chat/
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13:57.27sylvanaar_worksomeone here running vista that can take a screenshot for me?
13:57.41chexsum?
13:57.46Silviu-sylvanaar_work i can
13:58.03Silviu-From what ?
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13:58.21sylvanaar_workcool, can you move your wow directory to program files, and screenshot the right-click/new menu in your addons directory
13:58.40sylvanaar_workor did you change the directory permissions?
13:59.05Silviu-No i did not change anything but i have it installed in other place ;)
13:59.10sylvanaar_workcool
13:59.38Silviu-So i should copy it ?
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13:59.42Silviu-Will take a while .. :)
13:59.43sylvanaar_workcan you move it to program files, and screenshot rightclick/new? it should show a shield
13:59.49Zpredatorin the video the thing hiding the frame is mini chat
13:59.51sylvanaar_workis it on another drive?
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14:00.45Silviu-6 mins 20s
14:00.47Silviu-:)
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14:00.51sylvanaar_workwow
14:01.00Silviu-20 mb/s
14:01.07sylvanaar_workfrom another drive?
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14:01.14Silviu-No, same drive
14:01.20sylvanaar_workare you moving it?
14:01.21Silviu-Just different partition
14:01.23sylvanaar_workoh
14:01.26Silviu-Yes moving ;)
14:01.54sylvanaar_workwell, if its on a differnt partition you dont need to move it you can copy
14:01.57chexsummy wow is 13G, how big is yours ?
14:02.07Silviu-8
14:02.15chexsumnoob
14:02.25Silviu-Why ? ;)
14:02.32Chompers13g too
14:02.34Chompershow weird
14:02.35sylvanaar_worklol, uninstall the test realm
14:02.52mikmamikma@[~/World of Warcraft]: du -k
14:02.53mikma9457148 .
14:02.54chexsumhell no thats blasphemy
14:02.54sylvanaar_workdelete wowtest even
14:02.59Silviu-I don`t have any patches/test in my wow folder ;p
14:03.07Chompers11gb now ;)
14:03.14CIA-1003charon 07charon * r67300 10Omen/: Omen: ditch branch again, the externals stuff gets too confusing
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14:03.25Stanzillalulz
14:04.38chexsumi should install linux on this comp now that vista has turned into balls
14:04.51Silviu-Vista with Sp1 is more then ok
14:04.51chexsumits so slow
14:04.51Silviu-;)
14:05.10chexsumhow do i know if ive got sp1
14:05.22Stanzillawindows key + pause
14:05.24Silviu-Right click my computer properties
14:05.37Silviu-Or so :)
14:05.50chexsumcan see sp1 anywhere
14:06.37chexsumit wants 30m to copy wow so its broken
14:06.50chexsummy comp should do that in seconds
14:06.59Silviu-chexsum http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=81708592ds6.jpg
14:06.59Silviu-;)
14:07.34chexsumOMG I WON
14:07.40Silviu-WHY :)
14:08.09chexsumguess i need to get sp1 and reinstall this pos
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14:08.45mikmaoh look! Next96
14:09.27sylvanaar_worklol 35 sec remaining
14:09.28CIA-1003erwin * r67301 10Automaton/modules/Gossip/Locale-deDE.lua: Automaton: deDE Update for 2.4 battleground honor mark quests
14:09.38charonchexsum: no OS can copy anything of that size in seconds unless you sym/hardlink it, and i doubt windows lets you do either by default, if it is possible at all
14:09.39chexsumive got 4G ram!
14:09.41chexsumi win
14:09.51DottedCryect ping
14:10.08chexsumq6600 though :(
14:10.13Silviu-I`m more then ok with 2 GB :(
14:10.26chexsumits probably faster ram than mine
14:10.30Silviu-And i even played 1 Wow +2 lineage 2 same time
14:10.33Silviu-with no lag :(
14:10.43Silviu-Corsair 800 Cl5
14:10.57quiescensntfs does have hard link support
14:10.58chexsummines 6**
14:11.09Silviu-Not really big difference i guess
14:11.21sylvanaar_workSilviu- you have 0.01 more mhz than me from the same cpu, no fair!
14:11.30Silviu-sylvanaar_work http://i28.tinypic.com/2efqfpl.jpg
14:11.33sylvanaar_workghz
14:11.50Zpredatorfinally
14:11.53Zpredatorive finished my ui
14:12.01sylvanaar_workSilviu- thanks!
14:12.05Silviu-welcome
14:12.14quiescensoh dear
14:12.14Silviu-now 6 mins again to move it back :/
14:12.17quiescensapril first
14:12.29chexsumwoot
14:12.39Zhinjio~seen Kaelten
14:12.42purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (8h 54m 1s) #norganna (8h 54m 1s) #wowace (8h 54m 1s) #curseforge (8h 54m 1s), last said: '~lart netcurse'.
14:12.42chexsumim going to ring up work and say i quit
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14:12.47chexsumthen say april fools when i get in
14:12.54chexsum:x
14:13.17Zpredatorsomehow I doubt they'll be amussed :)
14:13.28mikmathat's a good one, tell me how hard they kick you in the ass
14:13.36chexsum'i got a job with the oppoosition'
14:13.42chexsumhaha
14:13.57Zpredatorooo its aprils fools
14:14.02Zpredatornow i get it.
14:14.09ZpredatorIts all coming to me now.
14:14.29Cartaschexsum: They'll be like: 'Oh, then you can have your job back! April fools!'
14:14.41chexsumlol
14:14.43Zpredatorteehehe
14:15.12chexsumi dont usually work tuesday so im probably going to get fooled
14:15.19chexsum:\
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14:17.49sylvanaar_workhttp://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/images/0/03/Howtofailatvista.jpg
14:18.06sylvanaar_workdoes that show Silviu- 's pic?
14:18.23Silviu-:P
14:18.32chexsumwhats the deal with program files
14:18.43chexsumand microshaft
14:18.56Silviu-Ppl should install wow in another folder not program files ;p
14:19.01sylvanaar_workexactly
14:19.06Silviu-and another drive too
14:19.08Zpredatorwhy is that?
14:19.15sylvanaar_worklook at the picture
14:19.16Silviu-in case of format windows :)
14:19.19Silviu-i saw
14:19.23chexsumi done that just ebcuase of reinstalling windows lol
14:19.36Zpredatorohh lol
14:19.37Nandinibecause wow and its installer weren't made with user account control in mind
14:19.39Matrix110Iam still using the EU Beta Client on my so far 6 new Win Installs :P
14:19.42sylvanaar_workSilviu- i didnt mean you
14:19.50Zpredatoreeek the new pitbull is very buggy
14:19.57Silviu-sylvanaar_work your photoshop skills are good ;p
14:20.02Nandinigo report your bugs on jira then Zpredator
14:20.15Zpredatortheve already been reported
14:20.21sylvanaar_workSilviu- mspaint
14:20.24sylvanaar_workftw!
14:20.25Silviu-heh
14:20.28Zpredatoran update should come soon
14:20.34Matrix110paint.net ftw!
14:20.35Silviu-7.84 GB (8,427,139,072 bytes) Wow folder :)
14:20.40chdsttwo disk raid 0 mounted at c:\storage, makes it relatively easy to 1) Reformat windows without losing all my game crap 2) Play my games in Linux
14:21.32Zpredatorwell im sure other people have noticed it
14:21.33chexsummeganoob
14:21.39Zpredatorthe pitbull bug shows you as offline
14:21.54chexsumive got the biggest wow!
14:22.01chexsumpathes from pre 1.0
14:22.06chexsum+c
14:22.07Silviu-;))
14:22.10Silviu-delete them ! ;)
14:22.18chexsumpft
14:22.40Silviu-I just downloaded today patch 2.4.0 full from 2.0
14:22.45Silviu-In case of reinstall wow :P
14:22.53Zarielanyway to stop babble erroring if it doesnt have a translation?
14:23.18CIA-1003hedin * r67302 10WF3sec/core.lua: WF3sec: Console redone. You may now turn off GCD :-)
14:23.23CIA-1003zeksie * r67303 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Don't del() stuff that's not ours..
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14:28.52CIA-1003ananhaid * r67304 10Omen/ (Localization/zhCN.lua Modules/Healer/Localization/zhCN.lua):
14:28.52CIA-10Omen:
14:28.52CIA-10- zhCN updated.
14:29.52kalahassii miss the linux version from wowbeta , but somewhere ive still the files ;)
14:32.46ngc|wowhm
14:32.48omeowI think vanaskos is broken.
14:33.02ngc|wowcan someone explain me why the healermode of omen2 has like 25 aggrobars?
14:33.06omeowProbably because it did some combat log monitoring. =)
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14:34.34[eu]gunderyes it did to spot nearby hostile players
14:34.48chiperwow, antiarc mad a LOT of fixes to omen last night
14:35.44chiper"Fix a completely retarded version check bug. Yes, let's compare the user's Omen revision to remote users' ThreatLib revision. That's an AWESOME IDEA."   <--- epic win
14:36.13chiperexplains a lot of the confusion we had in gruuls saturday
14:36.19quiescensawesome
14:36.42chiperok, I'm off to work
14:37.21TE|kulaarhey I had a litte "custom" addon which added "custom" fonts, textures ect. to shared media but I think its not working with the newes shared media lab. (doesn't work with prat and other addons any more)
14:37.35TE|kulaarperhaps can someone tell me what i have to change
14:37.38TE|kulaarhere is the code
14:37.39TE|kulaarhttp://ace.pastey.net/84796
14:39.19charonchanging SharedMedia-1.0 to something appropriate for 2.0/3.0 comes to mind
14:39.42TE|kulaarthe only thing i have to change?
14:40.49charonno idea frankly, but my best guess from a quick look at 3.0's source is: yes
14:41.14charonthe one prat uses is called LibSharedMedia-3.0
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14:42.32TE|kulaarok
14:42.34TE|kulaarill try
14:42.58CIA-1003cwdg * r67305 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/Localization/zhCN.lua:
14:42.58CIA-10Omen:
14:42.58CIA-10Update zhCN locale
14:43.56TE|kulaardidnt work, additionally my pitbull bar textures are destroyed now :(
14:44.56TE|kulaarIf I look into SM.lua
14:45.06TE|kulaarit think I have to use "SharedMedia:Register"
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14:47.59TE|kulaarhmm doesnt seem to work either :(
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14:49.25charonwell, since no expert speaks up, try changing the first line to SML = LibStub("LibSharedMedia-3.0")
14:49.49kenlyricsylv reverted something back to LSM-2 yesterday
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14:49.52Nandinii won't touch sharedmedia with a 10 foot pole, sorry :P
14:50.02charonhmm
14:51.22CIA-1003ckknight * r67306 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - separate pc, npc, and pet internally. No data should be lost from this, as it's a clean upgrade path.
14:52.10charonr67125 says "Prat: Revert revert to LibSharedMedia-2.0. ;)" ... he went back to 3.0 apparently
14:52.17zapl_<PROTECTED>
14:52.39TE|kulaarthx
14:52.40charonr65593 was Prat: Revert to LibSharedMedia-2.0
14:53.29sylvanaar_workyeah, this time i think i did everything correctly
14:53.39HjalteWhat's a good addon for showing cooldowns, via bars?
14:53.48mikmaOmniCC
14:53.55Industrial^
14:54.00mikmait's the best there is and don't let anyone else tell you othert
14:54.06genetikvia bars
14:54.14IndustrialoCD is nice (but not on buttons) :P
14:54.55sylvanaar_workthough people are reporting issues again since i moved cf2 and prat to lsm3, so idk
14:55.43TE|kulaarbtw Pitbull isn using SharedMedia3.0 yet?
14:56.31Nandinilsm3 is not an "upgrade" to lsm2, it's more of an "alternative"
14:57.24mitch0hjalte: if you are testing cooldown mods, take a peek at CooldownToGo and give me some feedback :)
14:57.36Nandinithey do things differently behind the scenes, and some addon authors prefer lsm2 over lsm3
14:57.44Hjaltemitch0: Afraid it's not me, but a friend :)
14:57.53zapl_cdtogo looks nice, tested it some days ago
14:58.08mitch0zapl: it's even better now! icons and all! :)
14:58.30mitch0also works for pet abilities and container items and  .. and... EVERYTHING :)
14:58.31Nandinialso, lsm2 and lsm3 don't share with each other as might be expected :)
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14:59.32sylvanaar_workidk, i'm just trying to support whatever the standard is
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14:59.59zapl_mitch0: yeay, installing it right now :D
15:00.02denaliAre there any ACE based theorycrating mods?  Something that will show in the tooltip how the stats on items affect your character?
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15:00.35Sent_rating buster
15:00.40Nandinidid you try searching, denali?
15:00.51Sent_prolly not
15:00.52CIA-1003mitchell 07Ace3 * r67307 10RangeDisplay/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Drycode Ace3 conversion. probably b0rks up on load
15:00.59denaliI'm sitting here browsing in jWoWUpdater
15:01.40kalahassii try netherpanel now, looks nice so far
15:02.06denaliThanks!
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15:04.27JJSheetsckknight, ping
15:07.41mitch0laterz
15:07.51Xan3see the log for svn are expensive?
15:08.56charontry --limit=20 or so
15:09.18Xan3k thz
15:09.21charonor hammer the server with git-svn clone and have cheap logs from then on ;)
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15:09.37dylanmThere should be a big old repo of GlobalStrings for different locales.
15:09.41Xan3limit=5 it's fine for me
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15:11.15sylvanaar_workim having trouble clearing my browser's cache, can anyone see the red text?
15:11.16sylvanaar_workhttp://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/images/0/03/Howtofailatvista.jpg
15:12.12charonhehe, nice picture
15:12.16nevcairielyes
15:12.20sylvanaar_workkewl
15:13.36ChaudIs there an addon like the one people used for AV premades for the other battlegrounds yet to avoid queues?
15:13.36mikmais that some sort of protected-mark or something?
15:13.36CIA-1003ananhaid * r67309 10Proximo/locals/localization-zhCN.lua:
15:13.36CIA-10Proximo:
15:13.36CIA-10- zhCN update.
15:13.36mikma(i've never even seen vista live)
15:15.05nevcairielyes thats the mark for "hey if you click this, UAC will kick your ass"
15:15.14sylvanaar_worklol
15:15.24AmadeoI don't get it :( Never used Vista
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15:15.44AmadeoDoes it say: Are you sure you want to create a new folder?
15:15.47charonso wait
15:15.58nevcairielAmadeo: yes
15:16.01Amadeolol
15:16.01nevcairielessentially
15:16.05charonit does let you move WoW back and forth between program files and somewhere else
15:16.07nevcairielbecause program files is a protected area
15:16.10AmadeoI see
15:16.11sylvanaar_workhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12103.0
15:16.12charonthen proceeds to forbid any changes to the WoW folder?
15:16.18AmadeoThat sounds annoying
15:16.31nevcairielthats why turning UAC off is the first thing i always do
15:16.46sylvanaar_workthat doesnt even help in this case though
15:16.48NandiniChaud, assuming you're on vent with everyone, just say "okay, we're gonna join WSG 9, ready, set, CLICK!"
15:16.51nevcairieleven when i had WoW on another drive, it still couldnt save addon options
15:16.54sylvanaar_workat least i dont think it does
15:17.03ChaudOr I could not do so =(
15:17.13[4K^wallen]Are mana/health gains with Parrot broken after 2.4?
15:17.14Nandiniand then you can hope that everyone with you gets matched with a similarly geared ally
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15:17.18Chaudqueuing for 1 BG number is too slow
15:17.30Chaudwe had decent sucess calling join first avil
15:17.39nevcairiel[4K^wallen]: parrot is completly broken, last i checked =P
15:17.45KaaosaSo I'm still using WAU to update; what should I be using?
15:17.51dylanmWhat's wrong with WAU?
15:17.58charonnevcairiel: all the more reason to use an operating system that had user accounts and permissions since ... late sixties?
15:17.59KaaosaNobody seems to like it.
15:18.02NandiniChaud: well, encourage more people from the opposite faction to do premades, you'll get matched quicker that way
15:18.18[4K^wallen]I see, that's the only thing in Parrot that is not working for me instead but I didn't test it thoroughly
15:18.24Groktarwhy don't they like it Kaaosa?
15:18.27[4K^wallen]on the other hand, is there any good replacement for SimpleCombatLog?
15:18.34nevcairielcharon: giev native support for all the apps i need =P
15:18.58kalahassikaaosa, it works for some people for others it doesnt, and only the people with problems complain ;)
15:19.16dylanmnevcairiel: What might those be?
15:19.27sylvanaar_worki complain about the people with problems =P
15:19.28charonnevcairiel: wine works fine for wow. are you implying you run other programs than wow too? ... no you're not, are you?
15:19.36Nandiniit bothers me that people have the mindset "i want to play as a group with my friends, yet I don't want to have to wait to face a similarly geared and organized group of opponents"
15:19.42nevcairieli am, work stuff =P
15:19.48charonblasphemy
15:21.14mikmayou guys know what?
15:21.26mikma[4K^wallen] is such a stupid nick :O
15:21.44ChaudI don't
15:21.47ChaudI want to roll pugs
15:22.14Chaudbe happy to play equal team when guild v guild BGs come =)
15:22.17mikma~nickometer [4K^wallen]
15:22.20[4K^wallen]why so, mikma? I use it on another irc network and I couldn't be arsed to change it so I guess you should deal with that
15:22.33Chaudbecause then the fight would actually have some meaning
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15:23.44Nandinii'm so sorry that you're unpleased with how the BG matching system attempts to match you with equally geared and organized opponents, perhaps you should cancel your subscrition :)
15:25.18CIA-1003athou * r67310 10MultiTips/ (MultiTips.lua MultiTips.toc):
15:25.18CIA-10MultiTips:
15:25.18CIA-10- toc update
15:25.18CIA-10- fix for shift-closing tips causing client crash
15:26.21Vulcanustest
15:26.25Nandiniyou could always smurf BGs like people smurf arenas, it would be even easier
15:26.29mikmaVulcanus: IT WORKS!
15:26.36Nandinifind an ally premade on your BG, and both queue as a group for the same BG instance
15:26.41VulcanusWoW be killing my intartubes :(
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15:27.00Nandinichances are the matching system is loose enough to bring both groups in together
15:27.14Nandinithen just trade off instant wins and losses
15:27.53Nandinimaybe have the opposing team line up for 1 mass suicide before the game ends for a little HK honor
15:29.04Nandinior have each player kill every other player 50 times without taking any objectives, while the rest wait in the starting area
15:29.30Nandinijust keep going until every player has 50 deaths
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15:31.20Nandiniin fact, if each player picks one other player, and they just kill each other repeatedly near a GY no teammates can see, there's 1050 honor right there
15:31.31KaaosaDoes Antagonist work with 2.4?
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15:36.51[SW]DodgeAdirelle : pong
15:37.28Chaudfarming another premade like that could lead to trouble
15:38.17Nandiniit certainly could, so could smurfing arena ratings
15:38.24Chaudnah
15:38.25Amadeohttp://techreport.com/r.x/2008_3_30_It_was_twenty_years_ago_today/logitech-sm2.jpg
15:39.05Amadeoand people think they need 4000 dpi!
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15:39.32Nandiniif intentionally communicating with your opponents and losing to them in arenas is allowable, you could argue it should be allowed for battlegrounds also then, Chaud
15:40.02Kaaosa:x What is Astrolabe and how did I get it?
15:40.10nevcairielAmadeo: i wonder when they actually came up with real ergonomic designs .. it says in that articel that it is .. but please =P
15:40.17zapl_Amadeo: the unique lightweight ergonomic design is amazing :D
15:40.43Chaudwin trading is not as easy anymore
15:40.46Nandiniastrolabe handles drawing icons on the world map and/or minimap i believe
15:41.42Amadeonevcairiel: I think that's just a buzzword, since they call everything ergonomic
15:41.52mikmaAmadeo: but 4000 is so precise!
15:42.01Amadeolol
15:42.30AethenelleAnyone having problems with having to manually reapply filters in Combat Filter every login to get them to work right? Anyone figure out how to get chat settings to stick between sessions?
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15:42.54Sent_Oh! tha's a good question
15:43.06dylanmKaaosa: Most addons that do things with the minimap offload the mess to Astrolabe. If you have Gatherer or TomTom, for example.
15:43.09NandiniNo, you're the only one who's having that problem, and no one will ever figure out a solution. :P
15:43.27dylanmhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8559-ChatSettingsFixPatch2.4.html
15:43.33dylanmTekkub to the rescue.
15:43.35mikmaAethenelle: Tekkub ftw
15:43.36AmadeoI hate my mouse, it's really inaccurate
15:43.38aestil2 questions, is there some sort of 'power aura' type mod that currently works, and is the AoE mode in Omen still causing a ton of lag when you are in raid?
15:43.39AmadeoI need that Logitech
15:43.44mikmadylanm: lol <3
15:43.55Sent_Tekkub  <3
15:44.55nevcairielaestil: AoE mode is still not finished
15:46.36clad|officeKaaosa: AStrolabe comes with TomTom and QuestHelper among other addons, why do you ask?
15:46.39Vulcanustekkub is a furry? :O
15:46.50KaaosaJust curious what it does.
15:47.12clad|officemap waypoint calculations
15:47.16clad|officeand icon placements
15:47.20KaaosaAh
15:47.23clad|officei.e. placing icons on world/minimap
15:47.28KaaosaI dig.
15:47.31clad|officeheh
15:47.39mikmahi cladoffice
15:47.42clad|officehi
15:47.46mikmahow's office?
15:47.52clad|officeoffice-a-licious
15:48.08mikmainterner workie properly at home yet?
15:48.11mikmanerd*
15:48.18clad|officenope, tomorrow in theory
15:48.28mikmawhat will happen tomorrow then?
15:48.34clad|officewe get the new provider
15:48.35Vulcanusworld will end
15:48.35clad|officein theory
15:48.46mikmaoh cool. that means code-a-licious
15:48.46aestilnevcairiel: ok, cool.  and anyone know of a power aura type mod?
15:49.05aestili really keep hoping that parrot gets a module like that. it seems like it would go together very well.
15:49.09mikmaaestil: doesn't the ace2 addon work?
15:49.41aestili'm not aware of what you're talking about.
15:49.55mikma...
15:49.59clad|officeOh
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15:50.21mikmaPowerAura etc got renamed some time ago. moment i'll search it
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15:50.48clad|officeI have need of a graphic/web designer for a project that goes online in just a few weeks.  No coding required, just need a design and layout concept that I can implement.  Please contact me for details
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15:51.10mikmaclad|office: Mikk ftw
15:52.17Xan3abacus2.0 and libabacus3.0 have same interface?
15:52.34clad|officemikma: need someone with time :P
15:53.49mikmaaestil: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7381.0 -> http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Avion/
15:53.59sbcould blizz please fix those new chat settings
15:54.14aestillast time i tried avion it did not work.  is it being maintained?
15:54.17mikmasb: no, but tek did! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8559-ChatSettingsFixPatch2.4.html
15:54.21sboh
15:54.22sb:)
15:54.36mikmaaestil: that i don't know
15:54.51dylanmThe Avion guy quit :-/ kind of a shame.
15:54.56dylanmPeople seemed pretty pumped about it.
15:55.08aestilyeah, it would have been great, but the mod never really got working.
15:55.18aestilit was somewhat working, and then he quit.
15:55.23aestilthanks though mikma
15:55.36mikmaaestil: so basicly, what do you need?
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15:55.38Fisker-http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7871/80128629ex7.png <-oh noes
15:56.04mikmaFisker-: gz
15:56.13[SW]DodgeFisker-: gz :/
15:56.19nevcairielthat has to be false
15:56.22Fisker-Fisker-: gz
15:56.23nevcairielthe term is illegal
15:56.25nevcairielnot unlegal
15:56.29AmadeoYeah, where's the Blizzard logo!
15:56.34Fisker-exactly
15:56.38Fisker-people are n00bs
15:56.42Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3405083072&sid=1
15:56.49nevcairieland wtf is a illegal item?
15:56.53Amadeoand permanently is spelled wrong
15:57.13aestilmikma: i need power aura type functionality built into parrot with all its triggers and dogtags and what not.  woot!
15:57.27chdstnevcairiel: UNLEGAL!
15:57.33mikmaaestil: tell that to the boss then ;)
15:57.37dylanmDogTag... for your images.
15:57.55AmadeoDogTag - for your pets life.
15:58.15mikmaDogTag - woof
15:59.02dylanmWhy does my dog try to eat crap
15:59.05dylanmOFF-TOPIC
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16:01.17ngctype /msg NickServ IDENTIFY alzh31mer
16:01.56Kuraxoops, did I see someone's password?
16:02.06[SW]Dodgeit's funny, everyone of my guild or my frieds on my realm asks me if i know when Parrot will be ready ofr 2.4 :/
16:02.27Wogroipl_nice password too btw :)
16:02.35kalahassikurax, just a reminder i think ;)
16:02.43mikmaquick! steal his nick
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16:02.47mikmachange his password
16:02.50mikmakill him!
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16:03.41mikmaalso, try his account in wow with that ;D
16:03.47mikmalogin: ngc, password: that
16:03.53mikmalae lae lae
16:04.36[SW]DodgeEllipsis: i know every a lot of people are asking you or ck about that, but also a lot of people (frieds/guildies) is asking me. is there an ETA for parrot update? :/
16:04.49Stanzillano :)
16:05.17[SW]Dodgek ._.
16:05.41KuraxParrot now just like a phoenix, wth a parrot can be a phoenix?
16:06.33KuraxI decide to use the default one while ck making the 2.0
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16:07.09Industrialwhats the difference between parrot and msbt?
16:07.14mikmaIndustrial: author
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16:07.45Industrialmsbt works fine, has worked fine for 1+ year, and does like the same thing :s
16:07.48Zergrethhi there
16:07.49Industrialdoesnt see the problem
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16:08.16Zergrethjust tried WAU for the first time (the wau2 thingy), and it obviously kills all the libs that are in the addon folders of the addons i update
16:08.24Zergrethsomebody explain this to me and give me a fix or whatever
16:08.45Industrialno.
16:08.50Industrialfirst; did you look on the wiki
16:08.53Industrialdid you search the forums?
16:09.03Zergrethi checked the wau page on the wiki
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16:09.35KuraxZergreth: Understand how the externals work before using WAU is helpful
16:09.42Zergrethprobably D:
16:09.56Industrial(or not using them at all, as they serve no real purpose)
16:09.58Aethenelleuse JWoWUpdater?
16:10.04mikmaC:\
16:10.23Zergrethi think i will just stick to updating my addons manually
16:10.29Aethenellehad several people in the mazzle forums complaining about WAU not handling embeds properly...
16:10.51Industrial(mazzle has nothg to do with wowace)
16:10.56Industrialnothing*
16:10.59Zergrethonly thing it did was clear the Libs folder in all the addons i updated
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16:11.16Zergrethlike, Bartender3 libs folder only has its StickyFrames.lua left
16:11.17Zergrethand thats it
16:11.27Aethenellebut many of the addons are wowace mods... that's the only reason for my comment...
16:11.43Kuraxloves to keeping his libs directory clear
16:12.25Aethenelledon't worry... my only love for mazzle is in the prettyness of MazzleUI and not the developer...
16:12.37KuraxFind the with externals option and check it and update again, you will have them back
16:12.51dylanmIs it pretty?
16:12.59dylanmI suppose that's not a fair question.
16:13.11dylanmIs he still around?
16:13.23Aethenelleusing the right skin... it's really shiny.... even from a technical perspective....
16:13.32dylanmwtb his pay site.
16:13.43Aethenelleonly to enforce a narrow definition of bugfix...
16:13.48sbty mikma, chatsettings fix works :)
16:13.50FroMasterAnyone use Pitbull as their Raid Frame? Got a screenshot to show your layout?
16:13.54Aethenelleno paysite was created...
16:13.55CIA-1003saroz * r67311 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Fix X-Embeds
16:14.01dylanmAethenelle: I know.
16:14.08mikmasb: goodie. i'll let tek know ;)
16:14.17KuraxFroMaster: I think there are many different layouts
16:14.33Aethenelleactually, that reminds me... anyone know if DeTard is around?
16:14.37KuraxFroMaster: Since PitBull is highly customable
16:14.39FroMasterKurax: Just looking for ideas on how others have done it
16:14.54dylanmAethenelle: Maybe check http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t23417-share_your_interface/ for ideas.
16:14.58kenlyricusing pitbull raid frames sounds super
16:15.06kenlyricif you have 4 cores and SLI-3
16:15.09dylanmThere's a link to the old thread there too, and most of them are using PitBull.
16:15.09FroMasterKurax: its the highly customizable issue that I'm having problems with
16:15.35KuraxFroMaster: What kind of problems
16:15.39FroMasterdylanm: thanks
16:16.05dylanmAlthough there is a movement towards rUnit... which I'm pretty sure is just an oUF branch.
16:16.10CIA-1003saroz * r67312 10MementoMori/MementoMori.lua:
16:16.10CIA-10MementoMori:
16:16.10CIA-10- I should add externals to this mod some day
16:16.14dylanmAll of these people standing on haste's shoulders.
16:16.31FroMasterKurax: I'm used to using PerfectRaid where I can fit all 40 players in one Column on the left side of the screen so I can move quickly to heal
16:16.51hastelol wut?
16:16.55FroMasterPitbulls shows so much more info that it doesn't fit the same layout
16:16.57Olisondylanm: where did you hear about rUnit?
16:17.08dylanmOlison: EJ forums :p
16:17.08SarozTinyTip is back in action, so <3
16:17.31Aethenelledylanm: the thing is I like one philosophy from mazzle: install should be as easy as installing a mod... no wtf folders... just run a config mod... if all else fails i can mod mazzle so it works properly again... learned lua for that purpose...
16:17.41Aethenelleis a little crazy...
16:17.46dylanmSaroz: Oh hey he fixed it.
16:17.54dylanmAethenelle: Oh I just don't like compilations in general.
16:17.57TE|kulaarcan /spell be used by an addon?
16:18.04OlisonSorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
16:18.05Olison:<
16:18.07dylanmI think his little setup thing is innovative, sure.
16:18.17KuraxFroMaster: PitBull using the funky DogTag thing which you have to study before make something suitable for yourself
16:18.38Funkeh`how do I copyright the word funky
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16:18.49Aethenelledylann: I'm with you... If the author stops updating it, the whole thing stops being as useful....
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16:19.04Kuraxs/funky/thrilling/
16:19.10Kurax=p
16:19.14Funkeh`lol
16:19.22FroMasterKurax: I've seen plenty of mention to DogTag but have really no idea what it is.. wish there was a doc or something that would help me figure it out  :)
16:19.34KuraxIt has a in-game doc
16:19.37FroMasterpurl: thrilling?
16:19.50VangualZeksie: ping, http://wowace.pastey.net/84800
16:19.53FroMasterKurax: where/how do i see it? in Pitbull?
16:20.23AethenelleAnyone know of a DUF offshoot that is currently maintained? I have enough coding to do to update features in mazzle w/out tryin to fix DUF...
16:20.33KuraxFroMaster: Yeah, I think in PitBull configurations there are some button can access to it
16:20.41aestilclad|office: will lighthead have the LoD component working again.
16:21.07KuraxFroMaster: Just near where you need to use DogTags
16:21.20Aethenelleaestil: on the wowint page for lighthead she states it's unlikely
16:22.09aestili didn't see it say 'unlikely'
16:22.18aestili saw it say 'i took it out to get it working quickly'
16:22.33dylanmYeah I think it'll be back.
16:23.03kenlyriche said it would be
16:23.04aestillightheaded is like 14mb when you load the whoel thing, yikes!
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16:23.11IndustrialI know this isnt pokemon but why can I flame shock a water elemtnal under water?
16:23.12AethenelleI thought i saw iit in the comments... course I've read a lot of threads in many places... they could have gotten crossed...
16:23.13kenlyric~meh
16:23.13purlmeh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy
16:23.36Kurax~DogTag
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16:23.48KuraxWhat?
16:23.56FroMasterKurax: I guess the issue is I have no idea where i would need to use it to have any idea where to look at it in the Pitbull config.. I'm looking now under Player and don't see anything that says or infers where I would use DogTags
16:24.23FroMasterfound it
16:24.25CIA-1003merl * r67313 10mHud/ (EnergyTicker/EnergyTicker.lua mTemplate.lua): mHud: Fix: GradientAlpha.lua line 92
16:24.32Aethenelleanyone know where i can find a bunch of info on LoD stuff for mods?
16:25.09KuraxDogTags are for text customizations, and you have to choose "Custom" before you can actually change the default settings
16:26.01Hobbyuse /dogtag for the help, very handy
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16:26.24KuraxGuess it's the new command in 3.0 right?
16:26.29JJSheets<PROTECTED>
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16:26.47CIA-1003arith * r67314 10GlobalStrings/GlobalStrings-2.4.0-zhTW.lua: GlobalStrings: WoW zhTW 2.4.0
16:26.56KuraxMy 2.4 will come tomorrow, on Apirl 1st =S, and I'm waiting it
16:27.11dylanmOh.
16:27.19dylanmYeah I wouldn't bother writing any DogTags today then.
16:28.03KalrothChina gets 2.4 on April 1st, you guys don't have aprils fool, right?
16:28.12CIA-1003xan * r67315 10Buffalo/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
16:28.12CIA-10Buffalo
16:28.12CIA-10- bump to toc for 2.4
16:28.12CIA-10- abacus-2.0 changed to LibAbacus-3.0
16:28.12CIA-10- fixed externals
16:28.12CIA-10- fixed options
16:28.13KuraxIn fact we do
16:29.30KuraxSo this sounds like a joke, but it's Tuesday, patch day, 14 hours downtime, if all these is a lie, well...
16:30.38clad|officeaestil: yes.. because its not LoD at the moment
16:30.45clad|officeaestil: it has over 18,000 comments..
16:31.16Xan3anyone uses buffalo?
16:31.20CartasIndustrial?
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16:31.47aestilclad|office: yes, i know.  which is why i was asking about the LoD thing :)
16:31.51clad|officeaye
16:32.32Silviu-Xan3 me
16:32.45Xan3i have make some change to buffalo
16:32.50Xan3can u test?
16:32.51Silviu-I noticed
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16:32.53Silviu-In a sec
16:32.57Silviu-I just update now
16:33.21Xan3buffalo, not buffalo2
16:33.44CIA-1003saroz * r67316 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: No real reason to have a buff whitelist, make it a filter instead.
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16:35.29Silviu-Xan3 I know ;p
16:35.41Xan3k
16:35.53TE|kulaarwhen i run a omen version check it shows myself as not compatible
16:35.54Silviu-Xan3 Still works no errors ;p
16:36.17Olisonok like haste, am i doing something wrong or does the Lily layout not save framepositions?
16:36.35Fisker-haste is always wrong
16:36.47hasteOlison: it doesn't save positions
16:37.08Olisonokay :)
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16:39.48Xan3silviu: option are better now o yesterday? :P
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16:41.10CIA-1003gagorian * r67317 10DrDamage/ (Data/Druid.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua):
16:41.10CIA-10DrDamage:
16:41.10CIA-10- Fixed error on line 40 in Druid.lua, for real this time (for some reason my changes got reverted)
16:41.10CIA-10- Fixed error on line 1139 DrDamage.lua
16:41.23omeowWhere does WoWAceUpdater save its backups when you do a clear variables?
16:41.25Funkeh`Gagorian, lost BSpell yet?
16:41.39HjalteSomeone in here was having trouble with textures not loading some days ago - I found the solution to my problem. If you want to know what I did, ping me.
16:42.34NeoTronFunkeh`: so my addon works great for the first 5 rotations if people do what they should do. It doesn't work well after that because people aren't necessarily ported in in the right order
16:42.41NeoTronbut it's .. fixable
16:42.55Funkeh`o..k ;p
16:43.33NeoTronit is really only needed for the first rotation since after that you have the debuff controlling when your eturn
16:44.08NeoTronone thing though - it's confusing that BW Kalecgos addon (or is it the portal one?) uses the group number of the person who got ported in
16:44.20NeoTron.. if you don't rely on actual groups for the porting
16:44.42omeowAnyone know where they're saved? I need to do a rollback.
16:44.44NeoTronwould be nice with at least an option to have it say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or so
16:44.46IndustrialCartas: ?
16:44.52CartasHi old chap! :)
16:44.59Kuraxomeow: Usually in your WTF folder
16:45.02CartasI was just amazed no-one even answered your question.
16:45.04zaplAdirelle: regarding SSR.. do you plan to make buffing while shapeshifted or prowling as druid an exception?
16:45.07omeowAs .bak?
16:45.15Kuraxa .zip I guess
16:45.15IndustrialCartas: hehe :)
16:45.19Funkeh`NeoTron, the warning? that's the kalecgos module
16:45.27IndustrialCartas: I'm playing on Vashj eu now btw >_> alliance
16:45.31Industrial66 shammy\o/
16:45.34Cartas:O
16:45.39baronnare there any good Drums of Battle mods out there that allow for a seamless rotation in a group?
16:45.39CartasYou managed to level high!
16:45.43Industrialsure :P
16:45.44Adirellezapl: what you mean ? except something bug, it shouldn't rebuff when prowling
16:45.49Industrial(this is my second high char)
16:45.49omeowacount-backup.zip I see.
16:45.51GagorianFunkeh`: Yeah BSpell is completely gone \o(
16:45.58Industrialmy hunter was 70 in uh, december?
16:46.12Adirelleand it shouldn't rebuff while flying neither
16:46.18Cartas:O
16:46.22Industrial^^
16:46.23CartasYou never told me, Industrial!
16:46.25Cartascries.
16:46.27Industrial:O
16:46.32zaplAdirelle: hmm it does, retesting it..
16:46.32GagorianFunkeh`: Only need Babble-Inventory now, there's no workaround that I can see.
16:46.33Industrialcomforst Cartas
16:46.33ckknightJJSheets: pong
16:46.39Industrialfails at spelling
16:46.55GagorianFunkeh`: I'd need Babble-Race too but I don't care enough about shit locales to add it for a few special cases
16:47.01Industrialbut now playing hunter is boring :(
16:47.03JJSheetsckknight, I added a JIRA ticket to LibRockConifg, with screenshot.
16:47.09Industrialshammy is almost boring now
16:47.10Industrial:P
16:47.14Adirellezapl: I have some bugs I have difficulties to reproduce and thus fix
16:47.58zapli'll try to figure out when and why and so on :)
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16:48.27CIA-1003xan * r67318 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ (. ClosetGnome_Mount.toc embeds.xml):
16:48.27CIA-10ClosetGnome_Mount
16:48.27CIA-10- bump toc to 2.4
16:48.27CIA-10- removed not used libs
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16:51.24Sarozvhaarr, ping
16:53.31CIA-1003saroz * r67319 10sRaidFrames/ (embeds.xml libs/ sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc): sRaidFrames: Switch to LibBanzai-2.0, should work
16:53.32[SW]DodgeAdirelle: ping pong, or what ever .)
16:54.07CIA-1003saroz * r67320 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Remove BanzaiLib from TOC
16:54.45Kuraxlol "The Humans Are Dead" mentioned by ckk is awesome
16:54.59baronnlooking for an addon that will coordinate drums of battle in a raid group.  Anything out there besides using macros?
16:55.31Kurax"Lick my battery"
16:55.35Ozguli`-19:53:02- (@Murkeli) knowing what an addon does doesn't tell you anything what it looks like...
16:55.36Ozguli`-19:53:19- (@Murkeli) i won't consider wowace.com a "real" addon site until they add freaking screenshots
16:55.52GagorianAwww
16:55.55mikmabaronn: someone requested that in wowace forums
16:55.58GagorianWe aren't a real addon site
16:56.01Gagorian:(((
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16:56.09GagorianLet's wrap things up and quit right away
16:56.11GagorianNo point
16:56.13JJSheetslol
16:56.26NeoTronOzguli`: so.. good?
16:56.39Ozguli`I'd knock him down if I ever saw him, 've explained at least twice that if he knows what it does he can just change the way it looks
16:56.46kenlyricfinally, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu71EAdnjQ0
16:56.48mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11781.0
16:57.23FroMasterKurax: Thanks for pointing out DogTag functionality in Pitbull... its a bit overwhelming
16:57.48ckknightJJSheets: k
16:58.06baronnthanks mikma
16:58.12CIA-1003kunda * r67321 10Omen/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Omen: deDE update
16:58.55Gagorian[Ammo]: Stopped all work on necronomicon?
16:59.21NeoTronOzguli`: where did that comment come from?
16:59.24KuraxFroMaster: It's powerful for players if you can handle it =p
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16:59.28Ozguli`quakenet #wow
17:00.05NeoTronI made a comment on how wowace is not a release site when someone complained that MagicComm wasn't bundled with MagicMarker (it's automatically added by WAU but not JWU apparently)
17:00.08FroMasterDoes Pitbull have a FuBar Icon? I remember seeing it a long time ago but just realized its gone
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17:00.35NeoTronI might still refactor but for now, though luck - use files.wowace.com at your own risk :P
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17:00.42FroMasterNeoTron: could be that the JWU user isn't pulling in the externals?
17:01.00NeoTronFroMaster: it's not an external, it's a non-optional dependency
17:01.07NeoTronthere in lies the problem apparently
17:01.27GagorianFroMaster: It should I guess. But I tend to use alt + rightclick the frames. It brings up the configuration menu for that frame, and everything else.
17:01.30GagorianFaster anyway!
17:01.46Ozguli`btw FuBar BagFu seems to show global cooldown in the icon :P
17:01.49NeoTronI wonder if it's the opposite of WAU - WAU seems to require Dependencies - maybe JWU needs RequiredDeps
17:02.22NeoTronOzguli`: hot
17:02.26FroMasterGagorian: That's what I've been using but I was looking for the about info and /pitbull about didn't work. Thought I'd right click on the Icon to see if it was there
17:02.34sylvanaar_workwau uses the files script rss feed, im not sure what jwu uses
17:02.49Pkekyo|Ii always feel like I'm entering launch codes for NORAD when i have to get nickserv to release my nick      o.O'
17:03.00sylvanaar_workhaha
17:03.22pastamanceris RequiredDeps even a real toc field?  I didn't think wow supported that
17:03.28Industrialit is
17:03.38pastamancerwhen did that happen?
17:03.55CIA-1003nevcairiel * r67322 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: store player revision in partyMemberRevisions too, so its not "unknown"
17:03.56Industrialthere used to be only libs outside addons and dependencies
17:03.58Industriallike, Ace1
17:04.44NeoTronpastamancer: it's the "newer" Dependencies field
17:05.15sb<PROTECTED>
17:05.19sbMT targets broken :o
17:05.20NeoTronand I assumeit was added when when OptionalDeps was added
17:05.32CIA-1003adirelle * r67323 10CoolDownButtons/core.lua: CoolDownButtons: recommiting r67260 that was unwillingly erased.
17:05.42IndustrialNeoTron: eh? wasnt it always around? :s
17:05.45NeoTronsb: got that too. I could set MT targets if I used the dewdrop drop down meny vs setting them in the tooltip
17:05.50NeoTronIndustrial: I don't think so
17:05.51CIA-1003scorpio0920 * r67324 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
17:05.51CIA-10LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
17:05.51CIA-10- InstanceLoot: Added Magisters' Terrace
17:05.51CIA-10- InstanceLootHeroic: Added Magisters' Terrace
17:06.01Industrialit was at least in 1.3 lol :p
17:07.03NeoTroncould be, I am not sure
17:07.07NeoTronbut this comment is funny
17:07.11NeoTronfrom wowwiki: Note: Dependencies, RequiredDeps, and Dependancies [sic] all give the same result.
17:07.21NeoTronDependancies ftw
17:08.38pastamancerthe files script only parses 'Dependencies' not 'RequiredDeps'
17:08.50NeoTronpastamancer: right
17:08.56NeoTronthat'd be a bug
17:09.04NeoTronhad to change my toc to use Dependencies for it to work
17:09.05CIA-1003adirelle * r67325 10GridAutoFrameSize/GridAutoFrameSize.lua: GridAutoFrameSize : really avoid to change the layout when this is not needed, instead of wasting CPU cycles.
17:09.12NeoTronor rather someone else changed it for me
17:09.31Ozguli`Rate please, and give me new ideas http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/new/ui/
17:10.17AciD_Idea: Roll Undead :D
17:10.28Ozguli`too late too late
17:10.39DaemonaFunkeh` do you still need a illidan log to verify the bossmod?
17:10.57KazieDoes anyone else than me have a problem with maximizing your chat(s) with MiniChat? .. everytime i logon i can't maximize my chat unless i unlock my chat and resize :o
17:11.24Daemonamaxi mini? you gotta make a decision what you want ^^
17:11.43FroMasterWhere's a good place to report a bug with FuBar_HonorFu?
17:11.44Kaziethe addon is called minichat?
17:11.47Funkeh`Daemona, transcript, sure
17:13.18ckknightdo mobs have a different amount of health based on whether they're in a normal or heroic instance?
17:13.27pastamancerI believe so
17:13.35Daemonayes they do ckknight
17:13.42FroMasterckknight: Where do you look for bug reports for your mods?
17:13.43ckknightokay, thanks
17:13.53Daemona(at least thats my experience)
17:13.57ckknightFroMaster: jira normally
17:14.09FroMasterCool, I'll go post there then
17:14.21ckknightDaemona: I'm working on CurseProfiler 2.0 :-P
17:14.22dodgagrftjx I'm gonna go on a rampage soon if that whole shared media crap isn't getting better
17:14.34dodgaNow the font in Cowtip changed without me doing anythin
17:14.36charonyay for wowace.py shredding my git-svn checkouts
17:14.39Daemonaforms a cross with his fingers.
17:14.42NeoTronckknight: especially since they might have a level difference of 5-10 levels
17:15.02ckknightNeoTron: I mean if they're of the same level
17:15.11NeoTronah
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17:15.22Kody-They do yes
17:15.29ben_Hay dogtag question
17:15.41ben_Why does TalentSpec ? (TalentSpec " ") not actually suffix the TalentSpec with a space?
17:15.46NeoTronIf they are the same level, I am not certain they do
17:15.48Adirelle'night
17:15.48TNSeis it just me, or does the game almost always lock up when you try to exit it now
17:15.58NeoTronTNSe: it does for me
17:16.00ckknightben_: trailing and leading spaces are trimmed, I believe
17:16.02NeoTronhalf the time at least
17:16.04AciD_nah happens to me either
17:16.16ben_ckknight: Okay, how to I make it not trim them? There is actually more stuff afterwards!
17:16.30omeowAnnoying how you can't setting the font-size of your chat window doesn't affect the font-size of your edit box. So if you use a really small scale for UI and a big font size for your channel, the edit box font is still really really small.
17:16.33AciD_well I wouldn't say it happens half the time, but it happens too often :D
17:16.37omeowNo options for this in prat either, it seems. =/
17:17.10TNSefirst tme it happened
17:17.12ckknightKody-: so if they are of the same level, then a normal npc and a heroic npc (of the same name) can have different maximum health?
17:17.18TNSeI was like "#&(")¤& now all my addons are gonna be fuxxed again
17:17.25TNSebut now I've gotten used to it :P
17:17.34AciD_hehe yeah
17:17.58ben_My tag is [(IsPlayer ? Class:ClassColor " " (TalentSpec ? (TalentSpec " "))) SmartRace] and I am not sure how to make it have a space between the spec and the race
17:18.05NeoTronTNSe: I too was worried it would mess up my config but it seems like it locks up after config is saved
17:18.11ckknightben_: it should be fine...
17:18.20TNSeyeah, luckily that seems to be the case
17:18.27ckknightben_: does the talent spec show up?
17:18.38AciD_yeah only thing i get problems with after such a lockup is prat. But it only resets the font size so no bigger problems
17:19.06ben_ckknight: Yes
17:19.14ben_If I replace " " with "x", the x gets displayed too
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17:19.36ben_I, uh, last updated my addons last night so if this is anything you fixed since then I apologise
17:19.49ckknightno...
17:19.55ckknightben_: file a jira ticket
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17:22.39Industrialand he will await your patch
17:22.40Elsiaheya
17:22.50Industrialdrops to the floor, laughing
17:23.04Industrialoh hey elsia :)
17:23.16[SW]Dodgeheya Elsia :)
17:25.17[SW]DodgeElsia: any idea how to avoid the annoying lag if something in the live monitors is going fast down? like raid dps 10k -> 0 ?
17:25.18CIA-1003funkydude * r67326 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Nightbane.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Nightbane: Fix charred earth warning broadcasting to other players.
17:25.24ben_Also is it a bug that Target:NameRealm:ClassColor does not color the name in the target's class' color?
17:25.24[SW]Dodgein recount ^^
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17:25.38ben_(but the dogtag's unit's class' color)
17:25.53vhaarrXan3: are you 'xan' on SVN?
17:26.09chiperre: Nightbane.  great, now make the module activate when the initial summon text is printed
17:26.31CIA-1003funkydude * r67327 10BigWigs/TheEye/Alar.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Alar: Fix flame patch broadcasting to toher players
17:26.34chiperalways have to remember to activate the module before we start the fight, or I dont get a countdown timer
17:27.11Elsia[SW]Dodge: hmm there shouldn't be any lag really, I'll check into it
17:28.49Silviu-vhaarr yes he is, why ? ;)
17:29.04vhaarrI'll tell him when he's here
17:29.20Silviu-Ah he bumped closet_gnome
17:29.21Silviu-:D
17:31.56FroMasterAnyone elses Honor page show 0 kills/honor for Today and Yesterday? Did Blizz stop counting this?
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17:32.20vithosFroMaster: nope, mine shows all 4 things
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17:32.42KuraxWhat was the US servers downtime while patching 2.4?
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17:33.33FroMastervithos: wierd.. I have none but did a couple AB's yesterday and a few today
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17:36.29FtH|DaemonaElsia [SW]Dodge is talking about the cpu load of the automatic scale that gets adopted when a fight ends from like 10k dps down to zero, the dynamic downscaling of the scale kinda kills any computer
17:37.02ElsiaFtH|Daemona: ah thanks, good lead. Let me see if I can add a gradient check.
17:37.21Elsiaor a limit to how often it updates scale
17:39.15ben_So where is the "post" button on this jira device
17:40.27ZeksieVangual: was already fix with r67303
17:40.33kalahassiantiarc is amazing, normally im the only one running the latest version, but now its not longer possible with this large amount of updates evry two seconds
17:40.52trillexHm, is the new combat log not properly implanted into the API since the addons that relied on combat log are still broken?
17:41.00VangualZeksie: ok thanks :)
17:41.14CIA-10037destiny * r67328 10WitchHunt/locales/koKR.lua: WitchHunt: Fix translations koKR :p
17:41.18NeoTrontrillex: the API is different
17:41.27trillexBut they do have access to it?
17:41.30NeoTronaddons that rely on the combat log events need to be rewritten significantly
17:41.33trillexAnd the same information.
17:41.39dylanmThey have access.
17:41.42NeoTronthey have more information now
17:41.45trillexAh, right. That was the word I needed to hear, significantly.
17:41.58NeoTronand info requires no ugly parsing like before
17:42.08dylanmThe old events do not fire. I think that's pretty clear.
17:42.41CIA-1003Octane666 * r67329 10SpamMeNot/SpamMeNot.toc:
17:42.42CIA-10SpamMeNot:
17:42.42CIA-10- Hopefully this fixes the dependency problem when not using embedded libs with the WAU.
17:48.39FtH|Daemonahaha lol Funkeh` ... i am on pass for illidan first time since .... june last year ^^
17:48.46FtH|Daemonano transcript for you
17:48.56Funkeh`already got one, doesn't mater
17:49.06Funkeh`so SCREW YOU BITCH
17:49.13FtH|DaemonaQQ
17:49.19JJSheetsdamn
17:50.07[SW]DodgeElsia: FtH|Daemona is right, i mean exactly that :)
17:51.02NeoTronElsia: I dunno but it seems recount is much more friendly to my memory now
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17:51.16CIA-1003funkydude * r67330 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: More broadcast fixes
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17:51.21NeoTronI might just notice but it doesn't seem to kill my ui after a night of raiding requiring me to empty the data
17:51.22StanzillaFunkeh`: http://ace.pastey.net/84804
17:51.50[SW]DodgeElsia: and another thing, last week i was in kara and after the raid i checked recount data and there were some bosses in the data, the worst was that thier names was in german but i'm using enGB client :O
17:51.55xyuwow this is the first time my bugsack has been error free since like patch 2.1.   /wooot woot
17:52.06HjalteFunkeh`: If we manage to down Illidan, which we probably won't, I'll ask if you still need a log.
17:52.25Fisker-i salute thee Funkeh`
17:53.35xyuwe have illidan tonight as well.  but alas,  it is also progression for us
17:53.38xyuand have never downed him.
17:53.45xyudamn you phase 2!!!
17:54.15NeoTronwe're not raiding till tuesday
17:54.19NeoTronwe'll get you then kalecgos!
17:54.28NeoTronbest attempt had both of them <= 10%
17:54.42xyuis SWP pretty much off limits if you haven't farmed illidan for a little while?
17:54.42CIA-1003saroz * r67331 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Stupid TOC
17:54.43Hjaltexyu: Good luck :)
17:54.45xyui mean i've heard it's that hard
17:55.05Fisker-you can do trash
17:55.08Fisker-and maybe first boss
17:55.10xyubut i still want to talk my guild into going in there.  we've farmed everything but illidan for months
17:55.15Fisker-but boss 2 is a gear check
17:55.21xyuah ok :/
17:55.39Nandiniholy crap, i never noticed that minimap masks don't rotate now in patch 2.4, only the composite minimap texture under the mask rotates!
17:56.02xyuthanks Hjalte: if our tanks can move out of noob lazers
17:56.04xyuwe'll be fine.
17:56.04Nandinihooray for making oddly shaped masks that now work perfectly with rotation :)
17:56.05NeoTronxyu: it is that hard
17:56.20Funkeh`Stanzilla, no idea how you got that
17:56.25NeoTronso personal observation: No tier 6 bosses were as hard as sunwell is
17:56.28kergothNandini:  nice
17:56.34NeoTronwith that I mean relative to gear level
17:56.35xyuNeoTron: i'm glad then.  
17:56.38StanzillaFunkeh`: I logged in during a bossfight. could that be it?
17:56.41xyuThey really do need an instance for the hardcore.
17:56.47Funkeh`uh, no?
17:56.47xyuand i'm glad to see it wasnt' cleared the first night.
17:56.47NeoTronkalecgos is truly a challenge and it's of course the easiest one
17:57.13NeoTronwe're not leetest of the leet but we've been there for 16 hrs
17:57.14HealthOnly me getting errors from recount?
17:58.13NeoTronfirst night it took us 2 hrs to clear the trash
17:58.15Megalonbrutallus is the gearcheck and kalecgos is the retardcheck, though not clue what felmyst checks ;)
17:58.20NeoTronlast night we did it with just a few deaths in 40m or so
17:58.29Megalons/not/no/
17:58.34CIA-1003saroz * r67332 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: This gets boring real quick
17:58.46Fisker-kalegcos is also a healer check no?
17:58.47NeoTronMegalon: I'd say kalecgos is more of the healer gearcheck while brutallus is more of the dps gear check
17:58.54CIA-1003ulic * r67333 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Pathaleon.lua: LittleWigs: Fixed typo and some cleanups
17:59.20NeoTronFelmyst checks if you know your nightbane onyxia fight (never been obviously, just what I've heard :)
18:00.08kalahassican someone have a look at addonspam-fu? there are a lot of strange identifiers instead of addonnames
18:00.08Hjaltexyu: Last night, when we really tried p2 for the first time, I didn't really see the lasers :(
18:00.14NeoTronthe trash can be trivalized with lots of mages though
18:00.16Sarozkalecgos is a retarded encounter :|
18:00.28NeoTronSaroz: some parts of it annoy me
18:00.29MegalonNeoTron: so he checks if you got people with positioning-dyslexia? ;D
18:00.32xyuHjalte: what's gay about them is they're bigger than they appear.
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18:00.36xyuthey will hit you outside of their graphic
18:00.38NeoTronMegalon: I guess so :P
18:00.38xyuwhich is annoying as hell
18:00.49NeoTronxyu: yep.
18:01.32SarozNeoTron: Like the retarded amount of damage taken by EVERYONE
18:02.08NeoTronthat is annoying
18:02.15CIA-1003xan * r67334 10GPriceEach/GPriceEach.toc:
18:02.15CIA-10GPriceEach
18:02.15CIA-10- bump toc to 2.4
18:02.20NeoTronI think the aoe from the portals is a bit too much for example
18:02.30Sarozand the demon hits too hard
18:02.30NeoTronI know ppl should spread out and all
18:02.40NeoTronhis burst damage potential is a bit silly
18:02.47Sarozyup
18:02.54Kemayocharon: Yeah, I told wowace.py about .git directories, but it's only in the svn version.
18:02.59NeoTronit's definitely doable but stacking healers is the bomb there
18:03.05NeoTronwe will go with 10 if we can muster them
18:04.16Elsia[SW]Dodge: sync doesn't retranslate mob names, so if anyone in raid has another locale client that's what happens. I'm tempted to try detect locale differences and just prevent syncing in that case... retranslation is a pain
18:04.22CIA-1003ckknight * r67335 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - add support for different instance difficulties. Change :GetMaxHP(name, level) into :GetMaxHP(name, level, kind, difficulty).
18:04.23SarozNeoTron, heard of Sunwell Radiance?
18:04.30ElsiaHealth: you using most recent version of recount?
18:04.44NeoTronhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45769
18:04.50Nandinii hope they get rid of radiance, it makes things very difficult for all tanks
18:05.01Nandinibut maybe getting rid of it would make things too easy
18:05.01Sarozsomeone said it would go away at phase 3
18:05.36NeoTronwow that's some passive aura on all mobs in sunwell?
18:05.42Sarozyes
18:05.56NeoTronthat's stupid
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18:05.59Sarozyup
18:06.07Sarozour tanks have 7% dodge
18:06.08Sarozso nice
18:06.11NeoTronespecially in the last phase when they start hitting like trucks
18:06.15NivFreakman
18:06.23NivFreakI think I'm going to replace a holy pally with another holy priest
18:06.28NivFreakthey are just freaking OP now
18:06.41FtH|DaemonaSaroz show me a WWS that proves it exists.
18:06.52SarozFtH|Daemona, go EJ
18:06.54FtH|Daemonaunless you can, i say onyxia does more deep breathes in 2.4
18:07.21nevcairielFtH|Daemona: if a full evening on brutallus shows that the dodge is in average down by 20% compared to BT, i say it exists =P
18:07.29dylanmIt's definitely there.
18:07.42FtH|Daemonalemme dig up our felmyst logs...
18:08.44NeoTronSaroz: interest then if this is just temporary
18:08.44Zhinjioso wtf is up with the bongos config
18:08.49SarozNeoTron, idd
18:08.57dylanmZhinjio: What's wrong with it?
18:08.59NeoTronwith phase 3 do they mean phase 3 on the island or phase 3 in terms of opening in-instance portals?
18:09.06ZhinjioI can only configure one bar?
18:09.09NeoTronalso I wonder how reliable that info is
18:09.11ZhinjioI can't drag the bar?
18:09.22Zhinjiolocking/unlokcing bars does nothing.
18:09.32Zhinjiowhere are the other ones hiding?
18:09.43FtH|Daemonanevcairiel ok, then i say... Felmyst doesn't have the aura -> http://wowwebstats.com/k2gjtidhwnft5?a=8
18:09.43dylanmZhinjio: The "lock" preference in the config panel, you mean?
18:09.46dylanmThat's for action buttons.
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18:09.48FtH|Daemonaunless woktal got 51% dodge
18:09.50Sarozhttp://elitistjerks.com/f15/t23649-what_tuned/
18:10.02IndustrialCan anyone recommend an anime? http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Industrial
18:10.06Zhinjiook, I get that. So how do I make/configure multiple bars again?
18:10.20dylanmZhinjio: I've been meaning to talk to him about how unintuitive it is if you don't have the minimap button enabled.
18:10.30dylanmEither click on the minimap button or do /bongos lock
18:10.43Zhinjioaha.
18:10.45ZhinjioI see it
18:11.14Tornhoofdaemona, how do you read 51% from that log?
18:11.14dylanmOr /bongos config
18:12.35FtH|DaemonaTornhoof i said, woktal would have to have 51% dodge in the char sheet so that that wws would work out
18:12.43Nandinithat tank seems to have partially blocked 73% of all melee attacks
18:13.06FtH|DaemonaNandini the combatlog diferentiates between physical and normal
18:13.11FtH|Daemonahit the +button
18:13.28Zhinjiothats just lame. completely unintuitive.
18:14.23CIA-1003ckknight * r67336 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - prune less data at the lower levels. Has no effect at levels >= 20
18:14.37NeoTronhrm. wws doesn't seem to correctly show avoidance for 2.4 logs
18:14.49dylanmWWS is messed up right now.
18:14.50Nandiniit says he was hit by 4 glancing hits and was crit once for 25k?
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18:15.14Saroznevcairiel, hasTranslation in BB-3.0?`howto
18:15.29nevcairielFtH|Daemona: our feral tank HAS abot 50% dodge on character sheet, and he only gets like 30% dodge on brutallus .. why? :)
18:15.54FtH|Daemonaperhaps because brutallus got that aura? dunno ;)
18:16.02NeoTronFtH|Daemona: so that WWS doesn't show any avoided blows for that warrior
18:16.04FtH|Daemonabut i just see... there is a flaw in the wws
18:16.15Tornhoofi guess i'm just dumb
18:16.17FtH|DaemonaNeoTron see Physical + Normal
18:16.19Tornhoofi just don't get it
18:16.25nevcairielanyway, in game now killing brutallus finally .P
18:16.28NeoTronoh ok
18:16.45FtH|Daemonaand thats why my percent are skewed... grabbing a calc.. sec
18:16.46MegalonFtH|Daemona: if you click on felmyst in the report, you see felmyst missed only 30% of his melee attacks
18:17.06FtH|Daemonathats what i mentioned... the stats are generated ... un-intuitivly
18:17.06Fisker-LOL
18:17.07Megalon30% seems pretty low for t6 tanks
18:17.24NeoTronyeah our druid tank has amazingly low dodge
18:17.30NeoTron30% on a kalecgos encounter
18:17.32Megalonbut 50% would fit i asume ;)
18:17.32Tornhoofwoktal has around 20% dodge, 20% parry and 28% block chance, + some 10%(?) extra boss miss
18:17.33Fisker-some 14 year old girl were doing some internship at some paramedics/firefighters in denmark
18:17.35NeoTronshe has twice that
18:17.38CIA-1003ckknight * r67337 10LibMobHealth-4.0/LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: LibMobHealth-4.0 - add another argument to :GetMaxHP that makes it not guess at the health based on similar levels.
18:17.47Fisker-then there was this really bad car accident with 3 kids dead and 2 adults
18:17.53Fisker-and they took her with them
18:17.54Fisker-:DD
18:18.19Ozguli`druids tanks, http://web27190.web08.talkactive.net/media/wtfloldodgecapped.jpg
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18:18.41NeoTron40% total avoidance for a druid tank => whatlol
18:18.50Tornhoofah no
18:18.52Tornhoofh elikely has more
18:18.58Nandinilooking at felmyst's melee swings, it appears the tank parried 15% and dodged 8% of them, and was missed 6% of the time
18:19.03Tornhoofhe's wearing shadow resi gear in te armory ;)
18:19.18Tornhoof8% is way too low
18:19.34Tornhoofeven in his partial shadow resi gear on armory he has 20%+ dodge
18:20.00Nandiniyes, with 490 defense, he should be missed more like 10-12% of the time and dodge closer to 25-30% of non-blocked swings
18:20.05NeoTronso it's not unlikely this is a progression slower
18:20.08sbmhh
18:20.26NeoTroninitially harder instance
18:20.27sbelemental shaman vs. feral druid threat seems to be wrong in omen/threat
18:20.29NeoTronin a very easy way
18:21.05Nandinitrue, they probably haven't finished the last 3 bosses yet and need to keep the first 3 "harder" for now to keep top guilds challenged. heheh
18:21.25Nandiniit also makes the encounter very easy to nerf later, just remove the buff
18:21.30CIA-1003saroz * r67338 10MementoMori/MementoMori.lua:
18:21.30CIA-10MementoMori:
18:21.31CIA-10- GetUnstrictLookupTable
18:22.09NeoTronright
18:22.25NeoTronseing as how one of our main problem is our tanks dying..
18:22.27keissElsia: theres something wrong with the damage done 'view' ... i have sometimes 1-2dpsers that have like 10x more damage done than is the sum of all the damage done 'components' (in the detail window)
18:22.30FtH|DaemonaI take that back, hadn't noticed the wws was flawed. its 11.xx dodge for our felmyst tank, which indeed is a little low ;)
18:22.30NeoTronthis can certainly help explain it
18:22.50FtH|Daemona(doing math yourself is always better then blindly trusting something)
18:23.08Elsiakeiss: that's syncing.. I'm working on it
18:23.09charonOzguli`: what about that screen?
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18:23.23keissElsia: no way to turn off atm ?
18:23.25Ozguli`seemed to suit the conversation
18:23.39charonit's not dodge capped though :)
18:23.50Tornhoofyeh well 11% dodge pretty much fits the -20% dodge thingie
18:23.53CIA-1003zeksie * r67339 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Fixed Molten Armor icon.
18:23.56Nandiniif you are only interested in your own data, just turn off data collection and syncing for others in recount, that's what i did
18:23.59Elsiathere is but I want bug reports. anyway try /recount sync off, also if you ask everybody to delete data at the beginning of raid this shouldn't happen
18:24.03Tornhoofconsidering that a fully buffed t6 tank should have close to 30%
18:24.05Elsiait has to do with old data still getting synced
18:24.38Elsiabut I hope to have this fixed fairly soon
18:24.51NandiniTornhoof: a plate wearing +def capped tank you mean, druids in t6 should have much much more dodge fully buffed :)
18:25.16Tornhooftalking warrior here
18:25.19Tornhoofnot feral druid
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18:27.43CIA-1003saroz * r67340 10MementoMori/MementoMori.lua:
18:27.43CIA-10MementoMori:
18:27.43CIA-10- Unbreak
18:28.21chiperZeksie: ping
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18:28.55Ozguli`seriously, bacon?
18:33.31Godzmackwhere?!
18:34.27Gnarfozhow is it that my chat font gets "bold" as soon as I /rl?
18:34.28Gnarfozo_O
18:34.57Gnarfozdo I need that ChatSettingsFixer thingy?
18:35.21kergothchatsettingsfixer? someone made one?
18:35.39Gnarfozyes
18:35.45Aethenelleyup.. tekkub
18:35.45Gnarfozbut: is this even related?
18:36.16GnarfozI don't see how my font being bold (which it isn't by default?!) is something the bug would cause :(
18:37.18GrumElsia: switching to 'DPS' showing while in combat gave me: http://ace.pastey.net/84807
18:37.24Gnarfozhttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info8559-ChatSettingsFixPatch2.4.html < btw @ kergoth
18:37.33kergothah, nice, thanks
18:42.52Ordogwhat does that fix?
18:43.21kergothright now wow dosetn remember what windows you put what channels in.. at least on mine, it forgets that i dotn want item/money loot shown in window 1, etc
18:43.57CIA-10037destiny * r67341 10Omen/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Omen: koKR Update
18:44.27phyberFunkeh`: couldn't you have stolen the nice dark background for KalecgosPortals as well?  that gray is horrible ;)
18:45.08CIA-1003zeksie * r67342 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Will ignore group assignments when not in a raid, so you don't end up with party turned off.
18:46.14ElsiaGrum: thanks, I'll try to reproduce it. so basically you are on Damage Done, mid-combat then switch to DPS?
18:46.29Grumi switched Healing -> DPS
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18:46.38ElsiaGrum: kk
18:46.53Grumwith shit loads of healing added and plenty of dmg done, sunwell trash
18:47.35kenlyricmeh, I can't use the grid frame to leave parties :/
18:48.03kergothi use fubar_groupfu for that, myself
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18:48.18pastamanceryou could setup clique to have right-click = menu
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18:48.46kenlyrictried that, I think
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18:48.59kenlyricthinking it gave me grid menu
18:49.01kenlyrictrying again
18:50.38kenlyricI can target myself and use the target frame
18:50.41kenlyricthat'll work
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18:57.26Kody-http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/8359/ new interview with Antiarc ;o
18:58.10keissElsia: also i noticed yday a "no one" item in the healing list ... it had 2 PoMs accounted on it
18:58.26keissElsia: didnt show today yet
18:58.30Elsiayeah, if the PoM tracker fails it'll credit it to no one
18:58.40ElsiaPoM tracking is heuristic unfortunately
18:58.57keissElsia: i know .. maybe account it to the person it procced on like before ?
18:59.19Elsiait's the same old code actually, didn't touch PoM tracking at all
18:59.29Elsiabut I'll look into it
18:59.52Elsiaearthshield tracking doesn't work yet either so I have those to clean up
19:00.04Elsiawell PoM tracking works as well as can be expected I guess
19:02.39Dashkalreads the interview
19:02.50Dashkalthreat pullouts without suck.  Hotness
19:03.44JJSheetsis away: Lunchtime.
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19:06.26NeoTronso can you make a libstub library that depends on ace3 functionality (specifically libstub communcation library that uses acecomm/serializer)
19:06.37Zhinjioour server just got the portal in phase 2 up
19:06.54NeoTronnice
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19:07.03NeoTronwe were at 57% midday yesterday
19:07.15Zhinjioyeah, the armory is at... 56%
19:07.30NeoTronlol wtf "Threat Hero"?
19:07.43zaplIndustrial: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakitate!!_Japan
19:08.12sacarascYakitate! Japan was bad
19:08.19sacarascan anime about bread...
19:08.27sacarascjust bad
19:08.28Industrialo_O
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19:09.28zaplstrange topic but its funny as hell
19:10.34sacarascthe clown had way too much of a big role
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19:12.49Zeksieis away -( Sunwell )- at 08:12p -( P:On / L:On )-
19:12.56cynhttp://wowwebstats.com/wldxf3pmzq4gq?s=10683-11017&a=6
19:13.04cynis that you dercyn
19:14.00cyndurcyn*
19:14.00Ordog~seen antiarc
19:14.05purlantiarc <n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 33m 50s ago, saying: 'I'm going to bed now.'.
19:14.08NeoTronthat's some impressive dps overall there
19:15.06cynit is
19:15.28NeoTronman I really fricking need my 4th t6 already
19:15.33NeoTron6% more dmg awaits
19:15.54NeoTronI so hoped to get the skull from illidan before sunwell hit :-/
19:16.09mitchnullcan someone point me to some simple example of using LibSharedMedia-3.0 in connection with a font selector?
19:18.26cyni dont have any t6
19:18.33cyni never can afford it
19:18.42CIA-10thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r161 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Get rid of static InterfaceOptionsFrame:Show() call.
19:18.57cynbut ill stick to my non class t6 items
19:19.14cynneo
19:19.18cynlink your profile
19:19.48NeoTronhttp://armorylite.com/us/kilrogg/aminai
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19:20.15cynnice
19:20.37kalahassii killed all bosses in hyjal with not even a t5 , because i didnt have enough dkp to afford them :P
19:20.38cynthe neck hastn dropped for us yet
19:20.47NeoTronwe have a few
19:20.55CIA-1003thrae * r67344 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions: Show() calls InterfaceOptionsFrame:Show().
19:21.08cynmy typical dps is 1720
19:21.09NeoTronwe've only had 1 skull and 1 staff though
19:21.24cynwhat do you sit at
19:21.27NeoTronw/o CoD I've I can do >2000 DPS
19:21.28cynin mh/bt
19:21.37NeoTronfor winterchill/gorefiend
19:21.37cynnice
19:22.06NeoTronour top dpsing warlock did > 2300 DPS (with CoD)
19:22.13cynnice
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19:22.31durcyncyn: yes, that's me
19:22.32cyni will jsut have to wait fro t6 4pc
19:22.44CIA-10thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r162 10/trunk/TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions: Show() calls InterfaceOptionsFrame:Show().
19:22.47Nandiniif i want to name an unnamed frame, assuming i can find it using :GetChildren() and a combination of attributes, can i just do MyNewGlobalFrameObject = child?
19:22.53cynso have you looked at spellahste
19:22.58cynhaste*
19:23.07durcynyes, i just don't have much yet ;)
19:23.45cyncasue doign lots of playign around with the spreadsheet
19:23.58cynit seems that haste is better than crit and dmg
19:24.12durcynit scales better up to ~615, yes
19:24.26cynin addition to that haste/dmg are better than haste gems
19:24.26charonspeaking of t6, how hard would council be once we kill mother?
19:24.31cyncasue the allocation of poiints
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19:24.41cynthat each of those gems have
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19:24.50durcyncharon: council isn't hard, you just have to make sure you don't have idiots
19:24.56durcynit's the special olympics of not standing in AOE
19:25.06charonuh oh
19:25.07cyncouncil i skinda easy if you have  a good mage and rogues
19:25.18CIA-1003thrae * r67345 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed ResetDatabase error. Fixed Scaling not taking effect immediately.
19:25.18ZhinjioGood morning, Kaelten
19:25.23cynand 3 huntards fro MD on the rog
19:25.35zaplomg i got april 1st spam email saying "I am sorry to remind you that as of tomorrow April 1st, 2008, the network printer service will not be available."
19:25.35cyn1 night of attempts
19:25.44mykxI have never understood how people struggle with council, avoiding the aoe is about as hard as logging in
19:25.53cynlulz
19:26.20GagorianIs there a command to manually force reset to all Omen threat?
19:26.20cynother with motherdirections is so OP
19:26.24cynerr
19:26.26GagorianWe are having problems with residual threat
19:26.34cynmother, with mother direction is so OP
19:26.54cyngag are you all using the same threatlib?
19:26.54CIA-10thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r163 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed ResetDatabase error. Fixed Scaling not taking effect immediately.
19:27.19cyncasue we had that problem and before everyraid we all updated to newest and everythign is fine
19:27.23Gagoriancyn: Yesyes
19:27.30cynoh
19:27.33cynwho knows them
19:27.35cynthen*
19:28.35cyndurcyn, do you typically get out out dps'd by firelock
19:28.56cyncasue i notited your dps time was 97% where as draxyl was 100%
19:29.08durcynthere was some movement on that attempt, iirc
19:29.23durcynand no, he's just recently gone fire, and has picked up more haste, so it's a bit early to tell
19:29.23cynah
19:29.48cynwhat do you think about the haste/dmg gems vs haste gems
19:29.51durcyni still think hybrid immo+sb is top dps
19:30.02durcynsocket hit where you have to, haste everywhere else
19:30.28cynso is the sheet wrong?
19:30.42durcynwhat do you mean?  after the hit cap, haste wins
19:30.47cynyea
19:30.58cynbut the way the haste/dmg gems have points allocated
19:31.05cynthere are 11 points on that gem
19:31.13cynand 10 points on the 10haste gem
19:31.19durcynthe only time you shouldn't go pure haste is if you can get a damage socket bonus imo
19:31.28durcynand even then it should be orange/purple
19:31.55cynhmm
19:32.03cynso then the sheet is wrong
19:32.11cyngoona have to regem
19:32.17durcynjust my opinion
19:32.24EvilJohn-I don't buy into that
19:32.26cyni have alot of reckless prystones
19:32.29EvilJohn-haste is overrated
19:32.33cynfail
19:32.36cynit isnt
19:32.37Amadeono he's not! I like haste!
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19:32.52EvilJohn-haste doesn't give you any more to spend it just lets you spend what you have faster
19:32.52CIA-1003mitchell 07Ace3 * r67346 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: fix drycode errors, fix font selection
19:32.53cyni alwasy have a shadowpriest in my group and shaman
19:33.27cynevil, you also reduce the GCD fo rlifetap
19:33.54cynbut then again no oen is near that cap yet
19:33.59kenlyrichaste is best when your current limiting factor is how fast things happen.
19:34.05EvilJohn-not even close to that limit
19:34.55cyntrue but i have the most haste in our raids and i out dps eveyone with being on cos curse
19:35.04cynbut that means jack, im jsut saying
19:35.53cyni want them to bring back items that reduced the mana cost of spells
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19:36.25CIA-1003mitchell * r67347 10CooldownToGo/CooldownToGo.lua: CooldownToGo: fix font selection
19:36.45EvilJohn-i understand what you're saying
19:37.35CIA-1003celess * r67348 10KA_RaidTracker/ (12 files):
19:37.35CIA-10KA_RaidTracker: initial update
19:37.36CIA-10- <first pass modernization>
19:37.36CIA-10- <added support for CT db copy
19:37.36CIA-10<PROTECTED>
19:37.37CIA-10<PROTECTED>
19:37.39CIA-10- <CT Raidtracker should work fine along side this reguardless>
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19:42.09Estillol what the heck
19:42.18zaplSeerah: btw.. did you get my reply @wowaceforum regarding mymedia.bat thing?
19:42.49Estilare we having 2.4.1?
19:43.03keiss2.4.2
19:43.35EvilJohn-sooner than later I hope.
19:43.38Estilbecause I'm looking at Korean WoW site and they are having 2.4.1 and 2 world events to go with it
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19:47.39kalahassitwo patches planned? why not just one..
19:48.03EstilI'd guess 2.4.1 is a Korean only patch I suppose
19:49.25NeoTroncyn: according from what I gather 14 dmg > 10 haste > 5haste/6dmg > 12 dmg
19:49.59Zhinjioif I want to provide custom eepanels textures, must they reside in the eepanels directory?
19:50.19CIA-1003mitchell * r67349 10RangeDisplay/ (12 files in 2 dirs): RangeDisplay: merged in Ace3 branch
19:50.25sbyay
19:50.29sbsunwell trash ring <3
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19:54.00zaplZhinjio: just gfx files without beeing loaded via lua does nothing. afaik eepanels uses some sharedmedia lib thing so including them there should do the job
19:54.09Zhinjiockknight: ping
19:57.14sag_ich_nichtEstil: what world events
19:57.16sag_ich_nichttranslations? :P
19:57.50sag_ich_nicht[21:50] <sb> sunwell trash ring <3 <--nono, you have to <3 your AP number when you hit brutalus and jugged an elixir of demonslaying
19:57.50sag_ich_nicht:>
19:58.10sbuhm
19:58.18sbpriest :p
19:58.25mitchnullerm, why doesn't AceConfig-3.0.xml pull in AceGUI-3.0?
19:58.36NivFreakhas anyone gone and ran around the demon area on the isle?
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19:58.43genetikheh
19:58.44NivFreakcan you attack brutalus out there?
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19:58.48Estilsag: uh
19:58.49durcynNivFreak: invisible wall
19:58.51genetikNivFreak: no
19:58.51Estilthey are doing 2 events
19:58.55ZhinjioI threw them in a subdirectory underneath the eepanels2 directory, and that worked zapl
19:58.59Zhinjioso I"m gtg
19:59.05Estilfirst one is about planting trees on a random mud pile that is strewn about in Azeroth
19:59.10Zhinjioit just needs to be somewhere the client reads in when it loads
19:59.16durcynNivFreak: they patched a barrier in right after someone enslaved him on PTR
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19:59.21NivFreakdurcyn: haha
19:59.24Estilwhen you do that quest to plant trees
19:59.26Estilyou get 4 items
19:59.36NivFreakthat's how it happened
19:59.37NivFreakI see
20:00.18Estilitem 1: Fruit of Life - recovers 7200 HP / Mana over 30 second. Eating it for 10 sec will grant buff that increases all stats by 15 for 30 minutes. If you do not receive "Well Fed" buff, you will get food poisoning that causes you to lose 2400 HP over 30 second
20:00.34sag_ich_nicht[21:58] <sb> priest :p <--YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
20:00.35NivFreakfun
20:00.42mitchnullAce3 devs?
20:00.48ANTRat0/clear
20:01.04ANTRat...ignore that
20:01.05Estilitem 2: A Believable Tree Disguise - You disguise into a tree. While in this disguise, you can't move nor attack, and you cannot be targeted or attacked by enemy monsters or players for 10 minutes.
20:01.29Estilitem 3: Leaf of Life - Recovers 3200 HP over 8 seconds. Doesn't stack with bandages.
20:01.53doc^bladid someone notice slowdowns on mother sharaz?
20:02.00doc^blaeveryone had low fps
20:02.05Estilitem 4: Fruit of Fervent Dance - When you eat this fruit, there is a chance to learn a new dance. Each race has different dances, and to use this new dance, type /arirang
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20:02.12Estilthat's the first event, sag_ich_nicht
20:02.18Estiland the 4 items
20:02.58Zhinjiodoes eepanels allow you to hide/show panels based on criteria? (in combat, out of combat, shapeshifted, ToT ~= nil, etc
20:03.20Estilthe second event, makes you go into an island filled with murlocs, and you have to go through underwater cave (so you need a sham or lock for this)
20:03.39Estilonce you arrive at the island you turn into a UD character and have infinite underwater breathing
20:03.46sag_ich_nichtEstil what are you talking about
20:03.55Estil[12:57] <sag_ich_nicht> Estil: what world events
20:03.55Estil[12:57] <sag_ich_nicht> translations? :P
20:03.55sag_ich_nichtoic
20:03.57sag_ich_nichtya
20:03.58sag_ich_nichthold on
20:04.10zaplZhinjio: iirc you can atach lua code to panels. so kind of yes
20:04.41sag_ich_nicht[22:01] <Estil> item 2: A Believable Tree Disguise - You disguise into a tree. While in this disguise, you can't move nor attack, and you cannot be targeted or attacked by enemy monsters or players for 10 minutes. <--DO WANT
20:04.48Zhinjioyeah, I just found the script hing.
20:04.52Zhinjiothing
20:04.57Estillol
20:05.03sag_ich_nicht[22:02] <Estil> item 4: Fruit of Fervent Dance - When you eat this fruit, there is a chance to learn a new dance. Each race has different dances, and to use this new dance, type /arirang <--do fucking want
20:05.15ZhinjioI assume the panel gets a well defined name that I can then use show()/hide() methods against
20:05.22sag_ich_nichtEstil
20:05.24Estilhi
20:05.32sag_ich_nichti demand that you make a whinepost about this on the forums
20:05.36Estillol
20:05.40sag_ich_nichtdo it
20:05.41Estilthat Koreans get cool stuff
20:05.45sag_ich_nichtyeah
20:05.46sag_ich_nichtunfair
20:05.47Estiland the rest of the world is screwed?
20:05.50sag_ich_nichtyeah
20:05.52ZarielWhy does LibBabble error when it doesnt have a translation?
20:05.57CIA-1003ackis * r67350 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ (ARL-BlackSmith.lua ARL-Engineer.lua):
20:05.57CIA-10AckisRecipeList:
20:05.57CIA-10- Conversions to use Spell IDs due to translation issues in engineering
20:05.57CIA-10- Typo fix in blacksmithing
20:06.13Arthenik_hey guys, is there anyone kind enough to help me with a kgpanels issue? more specifically a scripting issue
20:07.05CIA-1003mitchell * r67351 10CooldownToGo/embeds.xml: CooldownToGo: fix Ace3 embeds
20:07.30CIA-1003mitchell * r67352 10RangeDisplay/embeds.xml: RangeDisplay: fix Ace3 embeds
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20:09.35zaplZhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.msg171165#msg171165 some cool eepanels + pitbull stuff that uses script, maybe that helps
20:09.36Estilhm
20:09.42EstilI just also realized
20:09.49JJSheetsis back (gone 01:06:05)
20:10.06NeoTron<PROTECTED>
20:10.27NeoTronwhat did you realize?! don't leave us hanging!
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20:11.07CIA-1003celess * r67353 10KA_RaidTracker/ (KA_RaidTracker.lua ziplist.wau):
20:11.08CIA-10KA_RaidTracker: initial update
20:11.08CIA-10- <fixed bug with mouse over loot detail>
20:11.09Estilunless whoever that wrote up that page
20:11.11Estilscrewed up
20:11.34Estilthe 2nd world event in Korea requires people to be honored with Bloodsail Buccaneers
20:11.50Estilmost likely it's yet another new faction
20:12.19Swimnurdit is Korea, so people have time to farm Bloodsail faction
20:12.23Estillol
20:12.59CIA-1003mitchell * r67354 10CooldownToGo/CooldownToGo.lua: CooldownToGo: bump rev before wowi release
20:13.14CIA-1003mitchell * r67355 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: bump rev before wowi release
20:13.55Zhinjiozapl: interesting.
20:14.09Zhinjiolooks like you can throw just about any lua code in there.
20:14.21zaplyep
20:14.27Estiloh and
20:14.33EstilBlizzard clearly favors Warlocks
20:14.41Estilthe 2nd event requires you to take either Warlock or Shaman
20:14.46Estilor you can't reach the island of Murlocs
20:14.51NivFreakEstil: what is this event?
20:15.03EstilWoW Korea is having a 2.4.1 patch, which comes with 2 world events
20:15.06NivFreakEstil: what about potions?
20:15.08Estilone of which I just described to sag above
20:15.10Swimnurdor druids
20:15.18NivFreakEstil: ah, nothing for US?
20:15.22Estilwell... Druids are self-sufficient :(
20:15.24Estilyou could take potions
20:15.35NivFreakand what about undead?
20:15.44NivFreakand of course priests are fine
20:15.50Estilthe page says it's a very long underwater cave
20:15.56Estiland doesn't mention whether UD player can go through it or not
20:16.08Estilonly that people will need warlock/shaman undewater breathing
20:17.17NivFreakoh
20:17.21NivFreaka tunnel
20:17.22NivFreakI see
20:17.29NivFreakso this is unique to .kr?
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20:17.46NivFreakand that's why our first patch is 2.4.2?
20:17.53Estilwell uh
20:17.55EstilI'm translating it
20:17.58Estiland posting it in wow forums
20:18.03Estiland it appears to be unique to .kr
20:18.15NivFreakodd
20:18.18CIA-1003rabbit * r67356 10Violation/ (12 files in 5 dirs): Violation: Remove RosterLib, clean up data reporting and all locale strings. Only enUS enabled now, all other localizations must be updated and re-enabled in the TOC.
20:18.47Elsialua> t={}; if t["a"].Init then else print(t["a"]) end
20:18.48lua_botElsia: luabot:1: attempt to index field 'a' (a nil value)
20:19.03Elsialua> t={}; if t["a"].Init then else print(#t) end
20:19.04lua_botElsia: luabot:1: attempt to index field 'a' (a nil value)
20:19.41CIA-1003nevcairiel * r67357 10Omen/Modules/SingleTarget/SingleTarget.lua: Omen: use the correct unit for SwitchTarget
20:19.43Estilhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5640976355&postId=56401793210&sid=1#0
20:19.45Estilthere you go
20:19.59Saroznevcairiel <3, gogo debug
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20:20.30Estilenjoy :p
20:20.32nevcairieli cant figure out the annoying bug with the pull aggro bar <.<
20:20.50hypetechthe bug where you keep pulling aggor?
20:20.52hypetechaggro*
20:20.53hypetech:p
20:21.05hypetechbecause that's the problem I'm having with it :(
20:21.06nevcairielno the bug where the bar doesnt upgrade
20:21.12nevcairiel*update
20:21.13CIA-1003cronan * r67358 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/AddonSpamFu.lua:
20:21.13CIA-10FuBar_AddonSpamFu:
20:21.13CIA-10- koKR fix
20:21.35hypetechI'm having to threaten raid spots to have the whole guild spam update omen >.>
20:21.36hypetechhehe
20:21.53NivFreakwell
20:21.58NivFreakthe state of things is fairly bad right now
20:22.04NivFreakwe have a few updater holdouts
20:22.10NivFreakand they had a 2.0 snapshot installed last night
20:22.15NivFreakthat was of course broken an incompatible
20:22.31Xan3anyone can upgrade errormonster to use LibSink-2.0 instead of Sink-1.0
20:22.45NivFreakso we had to train people how to get shit from files.wowace.com or use jwow/WAU
20:22.47vhaarrXan3: you fucked up closetgnome_mount
20:23.07Xan3?
20:23.14hypetechya, I will never understand why people insist on going to Curse instead of using WAU
20:24.19CIA-10037destiny * r67359 10LittleWigs/ (22 files in 5 dirs):
20:24.19CIA-10LittleWigs:
20:24.19CIA-10- koKR Update
20:24.51kenlyrichypetech: wau is beta, curse is typically... less beta.
20:25.03hypetechmeh
20:25.09NivFreakhypetech: because not everyone is a die hard Ace mod addict like many here? :)
20:25.18kenlyricnever *encourage* idiots to use wau
20:25.18NivFreakI've had to pry DBM out of a few members
20:25.21Dashkalhmm, I wonder if Kazzak is still killable outside of 4am...
20:25.42mikmawooooooot? Item 4: Fruit of Fervent Dance - When you eat this fruit, there is a chance to learn a new dance. Each race has different dances, and to use this new dance, type /arirang.
20:25.44Estilsomeone just mentioned it could be the april fools, but it doesn't contain any jokes or whatnots
20:25.45NivFreakkenlyric: that's a great theory until we need them running a current libthreat/omen/bigwigs
20:25.50kenlyricthey'll update 30 seconds before raid time and things will explode
20:25.52hypetechI wonder if they're still banning for griefing by questing noobs that die to SB volley
20:25.54mikmaoh right
20:25.58NivFreakDashkal: I don't think he's killable on my server at all
20:26.00Estilall the April Fools jokes on WoW website always happened to be something that is humorous
20:26.02mikmahappy 1st of april
20:26.04Estilor sarcastic
20:26.12Estiland I don't recall Korean WoW ever doing april fools update before
20:26.22vhaarrXan3: no need to privmsg, you can highlight me with "vhaarr" here
20:26.26HjalteI'm such a loser. I had no idea it was April 1 tommorow >.<
20:26.26DashkalBornakk's post suggests otherwise
20:26.27vhaarrXan3: like I'm doing to you now
20:26.33Estilbut if it is april fools
20:26.34Estilman
20:26.43Estilit's sad :(
20:26.46DashkalHe seems to believe kazakk is killable too... yeah
20:26.47vhaarrXan3: you removed 2 libs from CGM, but they're still needed
20:26.52Estilbut still, I think Blizzard should take that idea and make it a reality
20:27.04Xan3vhaarr: sorry
20:27.06kenlyricwhich post?
20:27.12NivFreakI don't see how you could kill kazzak with dedicated griefers
20:27.13hypetechIt would be awesome if Sunwell was the april fool's joke, and tomorrow it and all the loot from it are just gone and they pretend it never happened
20:27.14hypetechlololol
20:27.17NivFreakyou'd have to camp them to rez timers
20:27.19hypetechsigh
20:27.23NivFreakand kill kazzak before thier rez timer was up
20:27.24Xan3vhaarr: i have tested that mod
20:27.34doc^blawe tried kazzak and he evaded al the time
20:27.46Xan3vhaarr: and all works fine
20:27.53|Snago|Xan3: You probably have the libs loaded from somewhere else
20:27.57Dashkaleh, with enough griefers they'd end up with staggered rez timers
20:28.17Gagoriannevcairiel
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20:28.26GagorianHunter pet seems to leave residual threat
20:28.37GagorianIs there any way to reset threat certainly
20:28.38nevcairieli know, tell antiarc :P
20:28.40Silviu-Gagorian noticed that also :(
20:28.53Xan3i have delete 2 libs from closetgnome_mount because that libs has been used from closetgnome, and closetgnome are dependency
20:28.58Elsiathere is a bug in the way the AceDB3 metatable handles "*", here's pastey http://ace.pastey.net/84810, basically I check if table["string"] then and this boolean check creates a table entry for "string" if it doesn't exists if its "*".
20:29.01Zhinjiozapl: the scripting worked fine to show/hide the frame
20:29.10vhaarrXan3: they're not used in CG
20:29.16vhaarrthey might be used in CG_Switcher
20:29.21vhaarrbut that's not relevant
20:29.27nevcairielElsia: please jira, no time to check out now :)
20:29.34Elsianevcairiel will do
20:30.27Xan3vhaarr: and what is relevant?
20:30.28|Snago|dependancy libs can change. I remember when FuBar switched to rock. Broke most fubar plugins because they expected fubar to load most ace2 libs for them :P
20:30.53vhaarrXan3: that the libs are not part of CG
20:31.00vhaarrand thus CGM must have them as externals
20:31.07Xan3k
20:31.14Xan3sorry
20:31.57Xan3i have deleted ace2 as externals and special event aura
20:31.58CIA-1003celess * r67360 10KA_RaidTracker/ (KA_RaidTracker.lua KA_RaidTracker_OptionsAce.lua):
20:31.58CIA-10KA_RaidTracker: initial update
20:31.58CIA-10- <fixed bug with mouse over loot detail>
20:32.08Zhinjioalright, I need to get some sleep. peace, y'all.
20:32.22NivFreaklol
20:32.26Xan3CGM need ace2 but not SEA, or not?
20:32.30NivFreakso is KA_RaidTracker == CT_RaidTracker?
20:32.33NivFreakjust renamed
20:32.36nevcairielyes
20:32.46ckknightum, does Cide not care?
20:32.48NivFreakis someone about to revert that again?
20:32.50NeoTronJust wait.. for MgicDKP >:-)
20:32.52nevcairielno cide doesnt
20:32.58nevcairielonly thing he wanted was a rename
20:33.01NivFreakah
20:33.09nevcairielthey dont maintain CT_RT anymore
20:33.12NeoTrons/MgicDKP/MagicDKP/
20:33.13NivFreakI see
20:33.18hypetechis it a more updated, less sucky version of CT_RT?
20:33.22NivFreakwell then maybe I'll switch
20:33.25NivFreakI still use CT_RT
20:33.31kergothXinhuan:  out of curiosity, why is the unit token stuff in the combat log commented out?
20:33.32NivFreakto hook into eqdkp
20:33.33nevcairieli use the modded version of CTRT
20:33.34hypetechI use NRT for during-raid tracker and just do background logging with CT_RT
20:33.45kergothXinhuan:  seems like itd be cool
20:33.46NivFreakI swear the version I use is updated reguarly
20:33.50hypetechNRT exports to EQDKP just fine
20:34.01NivFreakhypetech: I haven't given it a shot yet
20:34.11NivFreakctrt has a few things that irritate me
20:34.12Zeksiesunwell: 2nd rooom trash if you kill both protectors, will the scout run off and find another?
20:34.13Zeksieis back -( Sunwell )- gone 1 hr 21 min 24 s
20:34.32NeoTronNivFreak: http://eongames.com/tmp/mdkp/
20:34.33Xan3vhaarr: CGM need special event aura?
20:34.33hypetechit's pretty nice.  it's allowed me to update DKP instantly after each kill so we don't have to keep track throughout the raid
20:34.40vhaarrXan3: that's right
20:35.01NeoTronhypetech: NRT doesn't work for me so rather than trying to fix NRT or, heaven forbid, fix CT_RT I decided to do it myself instead
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20:35.25Zarielckknight: anyway to prevent Babble from giving errors when it doesnt have a translation? Or make it return the english instead?
20:35.30hypetechNeoTron: that sounds good too.  If I install KA_RT with CT_RT already running, am I going to have issues?
20:35.32NivFreakNeoTron: btw, something wasn't right with MM last night
20:35.36NivFreakdid you change the way things work?
20:35.41NeoTronI fixed it
20:35.46NivFreakthe raid report showed all targets as tank targets
20:35.54NeoTronmeaning I fixed it to correctly mark cc targets based on priority
20:35.54NivFreakbut I'm not sure MM was marking anything for CC
20:36.04NeoTronand stuff are marked for tanking if you run out of CC
20:36.14NeoTrondon't you use no sepcial marks for CC and just use the tank list?
20:36.24NivFreakI use special marks for CC
20:36.42NeoTronCC marking definitely works. however if it goes to fallback marks, it will be marked as tank
20:36.44NivFreakgenerally I use moon/star/nipple for sheep
20:36.53NivFreaketc
20:36.56MoonWolfnipple ?
20:36.57ckknightZariel: yea, by adding the translations
20:37.00NeoTronMoonWolf: condom
20:37.02Zeksienevcairiel: Your combatlog filter thingy, do a unitdropdown menu thing to say: log for this unit
20:37.06NivFreaknipple == condom == moon
20:37.07NivFreaker
20:37.08NivFreakcircle
20:37.13MoonWolfah
20:37.14NivFreaknipple == condom == circle
20:37.14NeoTron== moon ftw
20:37.17MoonWolfnow it makes sense.
20:37.30NivFreakNeoTron: so is the raid report broken then?
20:37.34NivFreakit wasn't reporting anything for CC
20:37.40NivFreakit would report them all as tank targets
20:37.49Xan3vhaarr: fix I or fix u?
20:37.54vhaarrXan3: you
20:37.59Estilis it just me or the sspvp2 doesn't save custom pvp objective location after you moving+lock it?
20:38.01Xan3vhaarr: k
20:38.07FtH|DaemonaZeksie shadowguard (the shadowpriest dmg shield) shows the wrong icon, instead of the shadowguard icon it shows fel-armor
20:38.10Xan3vhaarr: 2 min
20:38.48NeoTronNivFreak: no it works
20:39.00NivFreakNeoTron: ok, I'll look at it again wednesday
20:39.12NivFreakbut it was certainly not working correctly for me last night
20:39.36NivFreakNeoTron: did you consider letting me assign names to the tank targets? :)
20:39.42NeoTronyou didn't get any CC targets reported because: 1) you had no mobs marked for CC due to 1a) no marks assigned for the cc method, 1b) cc method not listed in the cc priority list, 1c) no one of the right class, 1d) no mobs defined to be marked for CC
20:39.46NivFreakso I can just spam the list on pull
20:39.48NeoTronthat's it
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20:39.57Arthenik_hey guys, is there anyone kind enough to help me with a kgpanels issue? more specifically a scripting issue
20:40.06NeoTronI have considered it but it's low priority
20:40.13NivFreakNeoTron: well, to be fair a lot has changed since I set up the first priorities in SSC
20:40.17NivFreak2.4 hit
20:40.19NivFreakso maybe I lost those CC settings
20:40.21NeoTronI figure ppl can keep track of "tank star = Foodude" etc
20:40.27Elsianevcairiel jira posted, yell if it's not clear
20:40.30NeoTronI changed CC settings
20:40.34NeoTronbut
20:40.42NivFreakNeoTron: the only time it's useful to spam tanks is when we have overlapping marks
20:40.45NeoTronthe usable cc methods should remain - priority list is a default list
20:40.49Xan3vhaarr: gratuity are used in CGM?
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20:40.59vhaarrXan3: it's used by SEEA
20:41.12NivFreakNeoTron: I'll spend a bit of time looking at my CC info for the mobs tonight
20:41.28NeoTronI know for sure it worked absolutely perfectly in sunwell last night
20:41.36Xan3vhaarr: it's true, im noob....
20:41.38NeoTronafter I fixed the annoying priority issues and race conditions
20:42.43NivFreakNeoTron: cool, like I said, a lot has changed, I'll play with it some more
20:43.37NivFreakso on tidewalker's murlock packs I don't have enough raid marks for all the mobs, and same with hyjal. This mod makes me want more raid marks :)
20:43.38NeoTronMM is somehwat deprioritized at the moment since I have more pressing needs
20:43.50NivFreakNeoTron: aww, what's popping it?
20:43.51NeoTronit works good enough atm (I'm not done by any means)
20:44.06NeoTronMagicDKP and BigWigs_KalecgosMarker primarily
20:44.13NivFreakah
20:44.23NeoTron8 more marks would be swell :P
20:44.32NivFreakyea
20:44.39NeoTronI wish I had had this addon on the murloc packs though
20:44.43Xan3vhaarr: SEEM need gratuity not SEEA, or not?
20:44.53NeoTronmight be a nice idea btw
20:44.58Sarozno Xan3, afaik
20:45.00vhaarrXan3: okay, doesn't matter, one of them does
20:45.01NeoTronmake "skull" be a floating target meaning "kill now"
20:45.07ZeksieFtH|Daemona: ok
20:45.12Xan3vhaarr: ok
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20:45.32NeoTronwell not necessarily skull but you get the idea - make it so the highest priority target (first tank, then when tank targets are dead, CC) be marked with skull automatically :P
20:45.36kenlyricskull is how you mark already dead mobs, so people know not to attack them
20:45.49NeoTronkenlyric: lawl
20:46.06NeoTronI realized the niceness of having raid targets in the combat log yesterday
20:46.20NeoTronI could see right away that it was triangle that wasn't tanked
20:46.50CIA-1003zeksie * r67361 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Fixed Shadowguard icon.
20:46.56kenlyricskull is always the kill first icon. It's an immutable truth. Now, moving it to another target during combat is entirely up in the air.
20:47.09NeoTronkenlyric: except, I've learned, that is not always true :)
20:47.18kenlyricwhen it's not true, that is fail
20:47.21NeoTronback in the day we did murloc packs without marking
20:47.24NeoTronand just moved skull around
20:47.37NeoTronbecause marking was too silly to try (oh magic marker how nice you'd been there)
20:47.54BelazorSkull -> Cross -> Triangle -> Diamond. Circle is Sap. Square is trap. Star is Polymorph.
20:47.59BelazorPeriod.
20:48.05kenlyricno, I mean you get fail raids where X is the "kill this first" icon.
20:48.13kenlyricit's wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
20:48.35NeoTronSkull -> Star -> triangle -> circle [tank], Moon, Square, X => sheep for us :P
20:48.36kenlyricBelazor: nah, no need to be that specific. everything else is up in the air. skull is not
20:49.01Belazorhehe
20:49.05NeoTronkenlyric: being so specific = good (consistency = good)... and required when you use MM :P
20:49.24BelazorAt least my guild is that specific in all 5mans, saves trying to learn new kill orders every day
20:49.48breserHmm commit log says this should be fixed but it's not...
20:49.49breserMessage: ..\AddOns\DrDamage\Data\Druid.lua line 40:
20:49.49kenlyricI mean specific to the wow community as a whole, not your particular group
20:49.49breser<PROTECTED>
20:49.56Dashkalheh, I thought moon -> sheep was more common than that.  Maybe just my server cause it does seem to work in pugs
20:50.02doc^blanew combatlog lags horribly in bt
20:50.14NeoTronkenlyric: that is true
20:50.16kenlyricblue square is sheep a lot, because mages are blue, I guess
20:50.36Dashkalthat's always trap for my group, but pugs don't seem to have a set meaning
20:50.39Vulcanusye ken I know you meant that, I was just saying that that order is a globally accepted standard in my guild, so we all know what to do regardless of who we take :)
20:50.43kenlyricI don't try to make sense of other silly choices
20:50.52kenlyricskull is the important thing to beat into people
20:51.17kenlyricCONDOMNIPPLE IS NOT YOUR PRIMARY TARGET!
20:51.32Dashkalnipple -> patrol
20:51.52Vulcanuscondomnipple? you might wanna lay off that white powder in the future, its not good for you XD
20:52.00NeoTronI like start/circle/triangle as additional tank targets because they are similar in color (more so than purple, blue, white and red)
20:52.05CIA-1003xan * r67362 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ (. ClosetGnome_Mount.toc embeds.xml):
20:52.05CIA-10ClosetGnome_Mount
20:52.05CIA-10- fixed my error, sorry
20:52.06kenlyricthat's what it looks like, my friend
20:52.13kenlyriccondom or a nipple, you decide
20:52.28Xan3vhaarr: it's ok?
20:52.35NeoTronX we often use for rare CC (hibernate, sap etc) because it's the most different other than skull
20:52.54kenlyricwe always used orange circle for player marking
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20:53.29morti hate kalecgos
20:53.40NeoTronmort: my healers ahte him the most I think
20:53.50morti am a healer
20:53.51NeoTronI wonder if I can ever make KalecgosMarker good enough to release
20:53.54mortand i hate the decurser :P
20:54.03CIA-10037destiny * r67363 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
20:54.03CIA-10Babble-2.2: Spell:
20:54.03CIA-10- Spell: koKR Update
20:54.18NeoTronI'll try to make it not need manual configuration tonight
20:54.25mortanother druid right beside me is dying to the fucking curse
20:54.29NeoTronor rather not need file editing
20:54.42Chaud=( I wiped 3 times in heroic MTR on 3rd boss today
20:54.45NeoTrona druid is dying from the curse?
20:54.45Chaudsomeone shoot me
20:54.49NeoTronare they retarded? :P
20:54.51mortyes!
20:54.54CIA-10037destiny * r67364 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/koKR.lua:
20:54.54CIA-10LibBabble-Spell-3.0
20:54.54CIA-10- koKR Update
20:55.44PrimerSo does pitbull still not have a way to select between separate configs for 10/15/25/40 man raids?
20:55.57Primer15 == AB/EOTS
20:56.19Ozguli`Grid ftw...
20:56.34Primertoo much time invested in pitbull
20:57.15AmadeoOnce you set it up, you can never leave
20:57.20Amadeobecause it's going to take you hours to do it again
20:57.23Amadeo!
20:57.32Primeryup
20:58.15hypetechI tried using pitbull for raid frames, but Grid is just too good and easy to say no to
20:58.15hypetechimo
20:58.35Primerif only pitbull had that ability, it'd be perfect
20:59.04chiperhad what ability?
20:59.11Primer<Primer> So does pitbull still not have a way to select between separate configs for 10/15/25/40 man raids?
20:59.13dylanmTalk to ck.
20:59.14chiperoh, multi config
20:59.21dylanmFile a JIRA ticket.
21:00.28chipereh, I managed to set mine up in a way that expands well for most raids.  only issues are in 40 mans, but I havent run a 40man in ages
21:00.42chiperunit frames are turned off in AV
21:00.50Primerexcept I'm a healer
21:00.53Primeron one toon
21:01.07Chomperswave 7 on azgalor..server dies
21:01.15Chompers:<
21:01.18chiperthat's why I have healbot :P
21:01.33Primerwhich does...?
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21:02.05chiperyou dont know what healbot is?
21:02.05hypetechI hear people say they use healbot, but I never remember long enough to figure out what it does
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21:02.18Primerno, I don't know what healbot is
21:02.35chiperit's a click casting unitframe mod
21:02.36hypetechmy healbot is grid+mousebutton
21:02.41PrimerI don't click to cast
21:02.47PrimerI have mouseover macros for healing
21:03.10kenlyricman, I tried those once
21:03.13kenlyricitt went...
21:03.14Primerthat way I can maintain focus on a boss/mob while healing
21:03.14kenlyricbadly
21:03.23PrimerI can't see anything being better
21:03.24chiperyou just spam one spell?
21:03.33Primeruhhh of course not?
21:03.49hypetechlol
21:03.54PrimerI hover over a unit frame and hit 1 (Flash heal, rank 5)
21:03.55chiperthen I dont understand how a mouseover would work
21:03.56Ozguli`can't you just watch ToT frame or something to maintain focus on whatever you want to maintain it on?
21:03.57Primer2 flash heal
21:03.59mortnext wipe *sigh*
21:03.59Primer3 renew
21:03.59hypetechyou can put a mouseover macro in every ability
21:04.00Primeretc...
21:04.08chiperoh, I see
21:04.20kenlyricit's not really a big deal. It's just an alternate way of doing the same thing
21:04.26chiperyeah
21:04.34Primerexcept I don't have to click or have focus
21:04.36kenlyricreduces the number of clicks.
21:04.45PrimerI never click at all
21:04.49chiperI prefer to just modifiers on my mouse buttons
21:04.53Primeronly once at the start, and I usually focus the boss
21:04.54kenlyricthe important part is not having to target someone to heal them
21:05.13Primerif the boss switches focus from the tank, I'm already hovered over that (ToT)
21:05.21Primerand can hit PW:S
21:05.37Primerstill, without clicking
21:05.48kenlyriconly difference is you hit a key and we hit a mouse button.
21:06.12Ozguli`I'm waving my mouse wildly anyway
21:06.16kenlyricthough sometimes you hit a combination of keys and we hit a key and a mouse button
21:06.17Primerso far the only problem I've encountered has been in AV and not knowing where the person I'm healing is
21:06.27PrimerLoS and proximity for dispell magic
21:06.42kenlyricthat's why grid's range filtering is so nice :)
21:06.47Primerhealing proximity is easy, as pitbull fades unit frames that are not within reach
21:06.50kenlyrictoo far away? you disappear!
21:07.08Primerso what if it's too far for dispell, but not too far for heal?
21:07.36taskulrafGrid can display range of 10/30/40/100 yards
21:07.52taskulrafso you can set up an indicator showing if they are too far for dispel but close enough to heal.
21:07.56kenlyricwell, you either don't care about healing the 31-40 yard people, or you run into the occasional distance error.
21:08.02kenlyricor what he said
21:08.17taskulrafI find it's typically easier to just move closer =P
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21:09.51Primerexcept in a 40 man AV, I don't know which direction that may be
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21:10.36azraeloAnyone know if the latest TinyTip is bugged?
21:10.42cynso has the soulshatter been fixed in omen?
21:10.55AntiarcYes
21:11.06kenlyricxit
21:11.08cynhow recent
21:11.21kenlyrictypically if they're too far away from me, they're not doing anything important
21:11.24cyncasue last night i was gettign the lua still
21:11.25ChompersAntiarc!
21:11.27kenlyricand are not worth worry
21:11.28Chompersyou're back
21:11.33AntiarcI fixed it last night about 4 PM PST
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21:11.39cynhmm
21:11.40Antiarc4 AM PST*
21:11.44cynoh
21:11.46cynokay
21:11.48cynsweet
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21:12.02cynif i see any shatter errors ill send you my log
21:13.38Starinniai hate "World Server Down" messages...
21:13.58Starinniaalways come back dead
21:14.09Vulcanusnow that I am in the presence of such fine gentlemen (or ladies, as the case may or may not be) well versed in the etiquette of WoWAce, I have a question: Does changing a mod's ToC file and adding an embeds.xml file in order to resolve library dependancy problems for users using WAU with disembedded libraries constitute "codebase changes"? And/or does it fall under the SVN Rule that pertains major code changes and should only be don
21:14.09Vulcanuse with permission from the original author?
21:14.17CIA-1003rabbit * r67365 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Bugfix.
21:14.33kenlyricwall of text crits for infinity
21:14.50Starinniainfinity + 1 :P
21:15.00kenlyricbut no, fixing embeds is fine for anyone to do
21:15.04kenlyricas long as you don't do it wrong.
21:15.20Vulcanushehe yea that's what I thought too
21:15.40kenlyricgo add WhoLib to fubar_channelwatchfu, if you're feeling frisky
21:16.03ramozh
21:16.03ramozm
21:16.15ramozrecount isnt correct on kalecgos
21:16.16kenlyricp
21:16.22kenlyricx
21:16.33ramozdoesnt calculate who's in the rift and if you're in it doesnt calcualte the raid
21:16.48Elsiait only syncs those that have recount and is only correct if everybody reset at the same time (like entering the instance)
21:17.03ramozhm, ok
21:17.03Vulcanusasked cause Octane666 (SpamMeNot mod) disagreed with me, reverting my toc change and embeds.xml change, and is now struggling with re-implementing the ToC change (but no embeds.xml). And he deleted my worldofwar.net comments when I called him out on quoting the rule out of context :p
21:17.08azraeloHey Antiarc, are you going to put draggable bars into Omen2? I love dragging agro gain out to save screen space
21:17.13ElsiaI'm still working to improve the sync code
21:17.22Antiarcazraelo: Yes, I will be
21:17.28azraelosweet :)
21:17.41nevcairielElsia: my guildys get _alot_ of script errors using recount
21:18.02Elsianevcairiel can you get them to post on the forum?
21:18.15nevcairieli wouldnt bet on it =P
21:18.28Vulcanusnever trust users to post errors
21:18.29HjalteElsia: I got 1 error through tonights raid, but then my wow crashed and it didn't happen again afterwards.
21:18.40Vulcanusthey'll hit Enter over and over again until they just give up and close the thing
21:18.43Elsiatbh the acedb3 bug is causing a lot of issues, SV data isn't reliable in the state that it should be in
21:19.33kenlyricdoes this octane person own the mod?
21:19.39Vulcanusyeah
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21:19.55kenlyricand he didn't like the change, or just didn't like the fact that you made it?
21:20.11VulcanusHe called it "unauthorized change" to quote it
21:20.39kenlyrici'm not an admin, but it sounds douchbaggery if he was OK with the content of the change.
21:20.48JJSheetsckknight, ping
21:20.50VulcanusI know its in his right to revert it or otherwise do with it as he pleases, I was just making sure I wasn't mistaken in assuming that fixing such things was FFA (in most cases, at least :p)
21:21.02azraeloAnyone have a recommendation for a replacement for ItemRack? How is ClosetGnome?
21:21.14azraeloI'm still using a 1.5 year old version of IR since i like the features
21:21.16grennonclosetgnome is okay
21:21.27Dashkalis still using IR. Works fine
21:21.29grennonbut i hear closetkde is much better because its c++
21:21.30kenlyricchanging the toc number is not, but fixing embeds.xml, svn:externals, and x-embeds is fine if it's an error.
21:21.34Hjalteazraelo: I think vhaarr thinks Closetgnome is pretty good :) And so do I.
21:21.36kenlyricupgrading libs is of course not
21:22.05vhaarrit does what I need :=
21:22.13chiperI enjoy closetgnome
21:22.18Vulcanuswell thats as specific as it gets, thanks :)
21:22.22chiperset it up on GF's account, she loves it
21:23.07azraeloOh. did one of you gusy wrote CG?
21:23.11azraeloClosetGnome, that is.
21:23.16azraelowrite*
21:23.27vhaarrI did
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21:23.44azraeloheh, guess you were the right person to ask :)
21:24.06sag_ich_nichti'm still using wardrobe
21:24.07vhaarrnot really
21:24.11sag_ich_nichtcan i be cool too
21:24.16vhaarrsag_ich_nicht: and you're using bold fonts, too
21:24.17vhaarr<PROTECTED>
21:24.23sag_ich_nichtbite me
21:24.23Ellipsisuses sag_ich_nicht
21:24.30sag_ich_nichtabuses Ellipsis
21:24.34Ellipsisrawr~
21:25.08JJSheetsah, the joy of sag_ich_nicht on my ignore list.
21:25.42Vulcanuscmon, every channel needs its clown XD
21:25.50azraeloIt's crazy how much faster my load time is now that i switched to not update with externals.
21:25.57JJSheetsBut I don't need to see his ramblings.
21:26.20Trell_azraelo; ClosetGnome is awesome.
21:26.40azraeloI'll check it out
21:26.48chiperazraelo: the author is always biased
21:26.52azraeloI like that it's module based, so I dont have to have all the crap I don't need/use.
21:27.02chipernever the right person to ask
21:27.27azraeloWell, i would hope he is biased :)
21:27.57Vulcanusazraelo, are you sure its not just the placebo effect? I mean, did you actually clock the loading time? I'm not trying to be a douchebag here, just wondering if there IS actually a noticeable effect - personally I haven't noticed it
21:28.05chipernot always in favor of it.  I've written several programs that I admited weren't as good as competitors
21:33.55CIA-1003antiarc * r67366 10Omen/ (Config.lua Localization/enUS.lua): Omen: Add a threat clear menu command. "/omen clear" now issues a group threat clear request if you are group leader/group assistant.
21:36.21Vulcanusawsum, Ill tell my guild to update omen tomorrow :D
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21:38.10azraelohey, any idea SimpleCombatLog will be updated so it looks the same as it did before?
21:38.22azraeloI hate the new combat log...
21:39.30CIA-1003ulic * r67367 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Capacitus.lua: LittleWigs: I fail :(
21:40.43FroMasterWould someone mind helping me to add a DogTag to Pitbull that would put an icon on the Raid Frame if the unit is within range?
21:41.17sag_ich_nichtazraelo you COULD use my replacement
21:41.22sag_ich_nichtbut i suggest you read the license.
21:42.16sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/~afora/SimpleCombatLog-2.0.rar
21:44.59sag_ich_nichtyou still have to setup coloring, bracketing, disable verbose etc. in the normal combatlog filter settings
21:45.09sag_ich_nichtand it's not perfect, i cba to change the verb order yet
21:45.31kergothwhat's it do, exactly?
21:45.38kergothjust modify the text mode globals?
21:45.39CIA-1003pericles * r67368 10InventoryOnPar/InventoryOnPar.lua:
21:45.39CIA-10InventoryOnPar:
21:45.39CIA-10- Fixed issue where it was opening inspect window on targetting someone
21:45.39CIA-10That fix also removes sound when targetting
21:45.42kergothor do you modify it further?
21:46.08azraelosag_ich_nicht: are you the original SCL author?
21:46.14sag_ich_nichtno
21:46.16azraeloor just write a new one?
21:46.21sag_ich_nichti just hacked myself a replacement
21:46.30azraeloah
21:46.38sag_ich_nichtand i really suggest you read the license. just in case you know, you disagree with it.
21:47.01azraelowhere is the license?
21:47.06sag_ich_nichtin the file
21:47.07sag_ich_nichtdurrrrrrrrrr
21:47.12Dashkalis very suddenly tempted to switch to GPL...
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21:47.29sag_ich_nichtlol
21:47.41azraeloWhy is this the first time i've ever been warned to read the license twice before downloading an addon?
21:47.46azraeloOnce, no less.
21:47.55sag_ich_nichtbecause i'm a dick
21:48.01sag_ich_nichtand so is my license
21:48.24sag_ich_nicht(in b4 nevcairiel claims my license isn't legal!)
21:48.27azraelouh, ok
21:49.21Dashkalheh, I think you'd need a clickwrap installer to have even a thin veil of legitimacy on that thing
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21:49.36sag_ich_nicht8D
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21:52.10FroMasterI'm trying to use this as a DogTag to show the name in a raid frame as a different color based upon range. Its showing as a syntax error. Any ideas? [if Range => "30" then Name:Green else Name:Red]
21:53.22Mokimoo at you.
21:54.28ulicslaps you.
21:58.25zaplFroMaster:  >= instead of => ?
21:58.58FroMasterzpal: Yeah.. fixed that.. I copied the => from the dogtag Range documentation page..
21:59.46FroMasterProblem is now that its only showing players as red, my else condition weather i'm standing next to them or if they are way out of range...
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22:01.18CIA-1003jjsheets * r67369 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0: Fixed JIRA ticket ROCK-146.
22:02.05zaplhmm maybe range is not working. /me knows nothing about that part of dogtag :)
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22:02.26ckknightsag_ich_nicht: that license seems kinda bad
22:02.39hypetechis there a way with DBM to have say Mother Shazrah timers go off while I'm hanging out in shatt so I can see what they are going to say?
22:02.59Primer!rating 1433
22:03.00Xinhuan1433 rating gives 329(5s), 289(3s) and 250(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
22:03.09JJSheetsckknight, fixed ROCK-146 ticket with that last commit.
22:03.45JJSheetsScrollbar needs to be updated correctly still, but it's at least not a critical issue.
22:03.53FroMasterzapl: thanks for the help.. guess I'll just keep futzing with the DogTag Syntax till i figure it out /bang head on keyboard
22:03.57ckknightJJSheets: *thumbs up*
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22:05.27IronhandI'm having an issue in AV basically since today - my game keeps hanging for about 5 seconds every 10-15 seconds... outside AV all is fine
22:05.35sag_ich_nicht[00:02] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht: that license seems kinda bad <--i know
22:05.37sag_ich_nicht8D
22:05.42Ironhandanyone have any idea what addon might be causing this? I mostly run Ace addons
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22:07.25zaplIronhand: could be your pc to every single addon :D
22:07.42CIA-1003gagorian * r67370 10DrDamage/Caster.lua:
22:07.42CIA-10DrDamage:
22:07.42CIA-10- The curse druid.lua line 40 strikes again! BE GONE!
22:07.55Ironhandyeah was afraid of that... was just hoping it might be a known problem with some addon as it only started today after doing a full WAU update
22:07.56PrimerIs there a way for IHML to have a "default"? I can't seem to find it
22:08.03ckknightFroMaster: why did you copy =>? that's an arrow representing output
22:08.28Ironhandand with having to wait about 15 mins for every AV it's rather impossible to determine the addon by elimination
22:09.00ckknightIronhand: binary titration.
22:09.32FroMaster@ckknight: Cuz I have really no idea what I'm doing :) Here's what I've got now Anyone gotten the [Range] DogTag to work? [if Range >= "40" then Name:Red else Name:White]
22:09.52ckknightFroMaster: well, for one, not sure why you're comparing it to a string, seems silly
22:09.53FroMasterI want to change the Color of the Name when they get out of Range (40yards)
22:09.54Ironhandckknight: care to explain?
22:10.00ckknightIronhand: wikipedia can explain better
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22:10.13ckknightFroMaster: use MinRange >= 40
22:10.18ckknightno quotes
22:10.30ckknightcomparing to a string is bad karma
22:10.36ckknightsince "5" > "40"
22:10.56Ironhandckknight: first search hit is for hydrochloric acid...
22:10.56CIA-1003jjsheets * r67371 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Bar.lua IB_Button.lua IB_Main.lua InfiniBar-2.0.toc): (log message trimmed)
22:10.56CIA-10InfiniBar-2.0 - Added Support for DrDamage as a DogTag.
22:10.56CIA-10- GUI frame updates when state changes.
22:10.56CIA-10- Reorganized button configuration showing which values are per state.
22:10.58CIA-10- Added ability to set up states using macro options directly.
22:10.59ckknightand also since [Range] returns something like "23-30"
22:11.00CIA-10- Updated Circle Layout so the third and additional circles have the correct number of buttons in them.
22:11.02CIA-10- Text Subs no longer require the [Outline] Dogtag, and will always be outlined.
22:11.28Ironhandckknight: possible typo? there certainly seems to be no wikipedia page dedicated to what you mention
22:11.32ckknightIronhand: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_search
22:12.44zapllike disable 50% of your addons, see if it fixes the problem, then you know that your problem exists only within that half. rinse and repeat
22:12.48Ironhandahhhh binary search... guess I'll have to try that - would still need at least 30 mins per iteration though...
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22:12.50ckknightIronhand: instead of basically finding it in O(n) time, you can find it in O(lg n) time
22:13.05Azurewrathmhm.. does ag_UF currently support LibMobHealth-4.0?
22:13.06ckknightwhich is significantly less
22:13.08FroMaster@ckknight: Thanks. I now have [if MinRange >= 40 then Name:Red else Name:White]. It now shows everyones name as Red even though they are standing next to me in range.
22:13.20KalrothIs Antiarc awake?!
22:13.25AntiarcHeya
22:13.26ckknightFroMaster: what does [MinRange] return on its own?
22:13.30ckknightfor them
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22:13.40ckknightAntiarc: go back to sleep, you've had a rough day
22:13.44Ironhandok, I finally managed to get into an AV with CPU profiling still enabled - now showing LibRockHook-1.0 as having 1850% CPU usage
22:13.52ckknightblah!
22:13.52KalrothAntiarc: Threat 2.0 generates Recount'ish amounts of traffic, optimize please!
22:14.06AntiarcKalroth: I know. I'm working on it.
22:14.08Kalroth(Antiarc isn't human, I've given up treating him as one)
22:14.09CIA-1003funkydude * r67372 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: remove 2.3 stuff
22:14.11ckknightIronhand: granted, Rock is a framework, so some addon using it is causing that
22:14.14Elsiahey, recount isn't creating recount'ish traffic ;)
22:14.15FroMaster@ckknight: Ah ha! It returns nothing :)
22:14.37AzurewrathAntiarc: hey, thanks for your hard work on Threat-2.0 btw... seems to work great now.. our warlocks stopped crying ;)
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22:14.40Gagorianyay
22:14.42KalrothElsia: Naw, now it's just terriwrong on some of the stats :P
22:14.43ckknightFroMaster: hrm, do you have LibRangeCheck-2.0 installed correctly
22:14.45Ironhandckknight: ok, will try and see if I can rule out one of those
22:14.46Gagorianwas top warlock on brutallus dps in the world
22:14.47Gagorianit seems
22:14.50dylanmAzurewrath: That's only temporary.
22:14.51Gagorian2508 dps
22:14.56sag_ich_nichtugh
22:14.58ChompersElsia: recount still having problems distinguishing between fights?
22:14.59dylanmWarlocks will cry.
22:15.01sag_ich_nichtanyone seen deathfrost drop yet?
22:15.10ElsiaChompers: shouldn't be, fixed that bug
22:15.14KalrothAntiarc: I was partly kidding btw, it's not THAT bad. Got a priest with 1.6 mb of traffic over 3.5 hours
22:15.33ElsiaKalroth: that's fixable ;)
22:15.44AntiarcKalroth: It needs to be slimmed significantly.
22:15.48Pkekyo|just invented a brand spanking new weapon (not a weapon for spanking, just a very new one)
22:15.54Kalrothwhich really isn't that bad, seen in light of the amount of data it NEEDS to transmit
22:15.59FroMaster@ckknight: I'm pulling down Pitbull using jWowUpdater and in Pitbull/libs/ LibRangeCheck-2.0 does not exist
22:16.06KalrothElsia: Yup ;)
22:16.10GrumAntiarc: tonight on Kalecgos one of our tanks died with the +aggro buff and for some reason he kept it after he got back in (trash respawned)
22:16.12ckknightFroMaster: hrm, someone needs to add that
22:16.21ckknightputs his finger on his nose and shouts "not it"
22:16.28Grumso he went up with shitloads of threat but it wasn't actually .. real O.o
22:16.28AntiarcGrum: Okay, thanks
22:17.02Kalrothoh speaking of which, killed Kalecgos with latest version of Omen and it was spot on, I died at like 109% hate in execute phase :P
22:17.14JJSheetslol ckknight
22:17.14Grumyeah
22:17.16FroMaster@ckknight: I do have AddOns/Pitbull_RangeCheck but i'm guessing that isn't the right one
22:17.18Grumthreat works perfect otherwise
22:17.25ckknightno, that's a module
22:17.30Grumsome people fail with omen - they dont select single target mode
22:17.34Grummaybe force that a default for now?
22:17.40KalrothGrum: Yup, that's a good idea
22:18.00zaplFroMaster: install LibRangeCheck-2.0 by hand then =)
22:18.09Grumlocks we happy with shatter fixes (orso - thought that was done waaaay back though)
22:18.20Grum(so i made fun of em not updating ^^)
22:19.04FroMasterzapl: Just did :)
22:19.08FroMasterReloading Wow
22:19.14AythDid the druid 'super high threat' bug ever get fixed?
22:19.14NimbleRabitis there any replacemnt for WhoDrop
22:19.20AntiarcAyth: Last week, yes.
22:19.26AythAh nice, glad to hear
22:19.36Grumbtw Antiarc, it was a warrior
22:20.53zaplNimbleRabit: some addon adds such information to my tooltips.. maybe its atlasloot or mendelev or maybe i am completely wrong
22:21.54FroMaster@ckknight: I put LibRangeCheck-2.0 in Pitbull/Libs and restarted WoW, [Range] and [MinRange] still don't return anything
22:22.04ckknightFroMaster: put it in AddOns
22:22.06Azurewrathckknight: is it possible to support addons with LibMobHealth-4.0 which use the old MobHealth3 api?
22:22.16ckknightAzurewrath: I'd prefer not to, but it's possible.
22:23.02Azurewrathmhm.. or i have to bump ag_UF to the new api ;)
22:23.20ckknightthe new API is pretty clean
22:23.22Stan_I think the Ace3 branch uses the new api
22:23.24ckknightI'd ask ag's permission first, though
22:23.31Stan_of ag_uf that is
22:23.41AeyanYeah, break13's branch
22:23.48Azurewrathi thoug ag abandoned it? At least there was no addon since a long time..
22:23.51FroMaster@ckknight: We now have range.. Thank you!
22:23.54Azurewrath*thought
22:23.57ckknightokay :-)
22:24.09Azurewratherr update... not addon
22:24.15Azurewrathi should go to bed...
22:24.17AeyanHe claims it's not abandoned, but no there hasn't been any development on it in a long while.
22:24.33zaplthere dont happen to be a aloft branch thats working?
22:25.00durcynaloft trunk should be working.
22:25.23Azurewrathjep, aloft trunk works
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22:26.11zaplwow, thats even better then :D
22:26.24azraeloAnyone know of a good replacement for Necrosis....i dont want to let it go :(
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22:26.45azraelobut the loss of verbal warnings for backlash/nightfall is quite annyoing
22:27.26FroMaster@ckknight: One more issue, I'm in EoTS at the starting point and everyone is showing 28 for the MinRange even though they are no where near me. I'm trying to figure out who is within Healing range..
22:28.03Ellipsisthen use MaxRange instead of MinRange
22:28.21EllipsisI recommend something like [MaxRange < 41]
22:28.43zaplFroMaster: you could use some real raidframe with already working rangechecking ^
22:29.00GagorianJJSheets
22:29.11JJSheetsGagorian, yes?
22:29.11GagorianDo you need any change in DrDamage code for the new InfiniBar?
22:29.14sag_ich_nichtsadasdasfsaf
22:29.16JJSheetsNope.
22:29.20GagorianOk goodie
22:29.21sag_ich_nichtlarge brilliant shard 8g?
22:29.22JJSheetsHandling it all in IB2.
22:29.23sag_ich_nichtare you shitting me?
22:29.36Chompersckk, i had a look in a few dogtag luas, without a mobhealth libary it seems really messy, quite interesting to look at
22:29.40sag_ich_nichti'm not paying fucking 8g for a LBS
22:29.44NeoTronhmm
22:29.45FroMasterzapl: I am but I'm having trouble distinguishing raid members that are in range because I scaled them frames down its hard to see the color fade
22:30.09NeoTronso here's a point about that 25% reduction in mitigation that exists in sunwell - bosses, at least the kalecgos demon one, doesn't crush
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22:30.21NeoTronso the damage might not be a lot higher, just less spiky
22:30.30doc^blabrutallus does crush^^
22:30.41NeoTronok nm that theory :P
22:30.48Chompersneo, was it you who was talking about a warrior application you had
22:30.49nevcairielnothing in sunwell crushes
22:30.51nevcairieliirc
22:30.52doc^blaor its bc of the debuff
22:30.53Chompershad points in imp rend
22:31.12NeoTronChompers: nope
22:31.17durcynbrutallus does something, at least.   either the parry exemption is buggy, or something else is fucked up, because i've seen a druid take 25k in melee swings inside of 1.5 seconds
22:31.26NeoTronnevcairiel: easily checked..
22:31.36NeoTronviva wws
22:31.52nevcairielwell brutallus and kalecgos dont =P
22:31.54NeoTronexcept it's not loading..
22:31.58NeoTronit is a good theory
22:32.09NeoTronyes you take more hits but overall damage isn't higher
22:32.11NeoTronI like that
22:32.19Elsialua> s="test <tost>"; print(s:match("(.-) <(.*)>"))
22:32.19lua_botElsia: test, tost
22:32.33Elsialua> s="test"; print(s:match("(.-) <(.*)>"))
22:32.33lua_botElsia: nil
22:32.42NeoTrondruids are good for non-crushing mobs with their high armor
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22:33.34nevcairielElsia: any table access will initilize that section, if you only want to check if something exists, then use rawget to skip the metatable
22:34.17Elsianevcairiel: I see, there is no way to make that more intutive? will be massive rawgets over all of recount code :P
22:34.31nevcairielthat is intuitive and expected behaviour of *
22:34.37nevcairielmaybe you just dont want * for that code 0P
22:34.43Elsiaand it's a notoriously hard to trace bug if you miss one
22:34.45Pkekyo|oh, that's right, today is next tuesday!
22:35.00zaplhmm BunchOfBars working with 2.4?
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22:35.20Elsiawell that's another question, but I wonder if the average acedb user will understand that a simple db.table["test"] will always create that table
22:35.39nevcairielElsia: if i access a key in a * sub table, i expect that key to already contain the desired data from my defaults
22:35.48nevcairielthats how it always worked
22:36.03Elsiais there a way to differentiate between access and writing to a table value?
22:36.10Elsiabecause that's basically the difference here
22:36.12nevcairielno
22:36.17Elsiahmm i see
22:36.24Elsiathat's kinda broken for metatables in general then
22:36.30nevcairielno its not
22:36.38nevcairielhow do you write?
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22:37.05nevcairieldb.table["test"] = { stuff here } ?
22:37.09Elsiawell if I do: if table["test"] then end this should be possible without greating "test"
22:37.16nevcairielor db.table["test"].key = stuff
22:37.17nevcairiel?
22:37.24Elsiano that's not the bug
22:37.34Elsiathe bug is that I cannot even test existance in standard lua table syntax
22:37.37nevcairieli know its not, just answer =P
22:37.48CIA-1003adirelle * r67373 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
22:37.48CIA-10SimpleSelfRebuff:
22:37.49CIA-10- hopefully do not rebuff while stealthed/mounted/flying anymore,
22:37.49CIA-10- Warlocks: Soul Link should be ignored while mounted,
22:37.49CIA-10- Druids: Nature's Grasp is usable in any form,
22:37.49CIA-10- show additionnal data in tablet tooltip when debug is enabled.
22:37.58ElsiaI never use {}
22:38.09nevcairielanyway, thats how metatables and the * works
22:38.16nevcairielthere is rawget to avoid that
22:38.20nevcairielif you really want to
22:38.42nevcairieldb.table["test"] will always be valid in a * table
22:38.49nevcairielthats the idea behind it actually :D
22:39.21ElsiaI thought the idea was that you had one template for any key matches
22:39.26nevcairielyes
22:39.29nevcairielthats what it does
22:39.31Elsiathat's different though
22:39.33nevcairielyou access the test key
22:39.37nevcairieland it creates the template
22:40.01nevcairielhow does it know that you only want to test for existance and not get a reference to pass to some function that works with it ? :)
22:40.10Elsiathere is a difference between writing and reading, so metatables cannot distinguish between the two that means one can never preserve lua syntax
22:40.53ElsiaI think I have to learn metatables more, maybe there is a way to do this
22:40.53nevcairielhow would i pass a reference to the table then, without explicitly creating it before?
22:41.07Elsiathe point is that it's fine to pass nil if it wasn't created
22:41.23Elsiawhy create a key only table?
22:41.45AmadeoAre you the gatekeeper?
22:42.04nevcairielbecause the code accesses it, it gets created, AceDB doesnt know if you want to check if it exists, or if you want a reference to modify later on
22:42.39Elsiathat's my question about metatables in general though, if you cannot distinguish between reading and writing, then it's a kludge in metatables imo
22:42.43Nargiddley'if db.table["test"] then' and 'db.table["text"].value = true' both do a read of db.table["test"], the metatable doesn't see any difference
22:42.49Elsiayou can never preserve standard lua table practices in if conditions
22:43.10nevcairiellike, look at Bartender, i use ** defaults for the bar configs. now if some user manages to set all configs to default, the entry gets deleted. now i access bars[1] (which was deleted before) and pass it to my CreateBar function, it will receive nil ?
22:43.11nevcairielthats wrong =P
22:43.52Elsiayou have to store which keys were valid anyway right?
22:43.58nevcairielno
22:44.00nevcairieli dont
22:44.02Elsiaah
22:44.04Elsiawhy not?
22:44.09nevcairielbecause i know the keys
22:44.13nevcairielthey are hardcoded
22:44.14nevcairielbar 1-10
22:44.18nevcairieland some special bars
22:44.27Elsiawell but that's not for general db use, that works for bartender
22:44.39nevcairielthat works for everyone
22:44.48nevcairielexcept recount =P
22:44.53Elsiahehe well
22:45.21Elsiabasically you could keep the keys and then this would work dynamically as it should and preserve if conditionals etc
22:45.28nevcairielmetatables only know __index and __newindex
22:45.42nevcairiel__index is caleld when i access table["stuff"]
22:45.57Elsiathen you test if "stuff" was created
22:46.00nevcairiel__newindex is called when i do something like "table["stuff"] = value"
22:46.10Elsiaah, so there is the difference I see
22:46.13nevcairiel(and the stuff key didnt exist ebfore)
22:46.36nevcairielbut the way AceDB always worked, we dont use __newindex at all
22:46.48Elsiaso currently you use __index and __newindex the same way, and I basically say that __index should return nil if "stuff" isn't yet initialized
22:47.02nevcairielthat would break like every addon using AceDB
22:47.07nevcairiel(and * stuff)
22:47.10Elsiahmm so basically recount was bugged like this always? interesting
22:47.31Nargiddleyif it did 'db.table["stuff"].blah = value' would error
22:47.34nevcairielif you need to check for existance of a specific key, you need to use rawget
22:47.44nevcairielthats just how it is
22:47.48Elsiayep it never uses rawget
22:47.58PrimerDoes IHML have a "default"? Basically something like "I don't that any quests nor am I in an instance that requires special clicking"
22:48.23nevcairielAceDB was mainly designed for configuration
22:48.26nevcairiel+storage
22:48.29nevcairielnot data storage
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22:48.58ElsiaI'm still debating what to do... basically if I ditch acedb I'll end up copying 80% of it and just add the __newindex functionality
22:49.24Elsiais there grounds for a Defaults lib or shared code that does this
22:49.41zaplcan you check for an explicit .iexist="yarly" subkey thing?
22:50.16nevcairielI still dont get why its so bad whats happening, empty keys get created and empty keys get deleted again
22:50.17nevcairielso?
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22:50.44nevcairielor just use rawget
22:50.49ElsiaIt creates data that shouldn't be created, because I do manipulation on it
22:50.58nevcairielyou'll end up using rawget anyway
22:51.12nevcairielthats just how metatables work
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22:51.18Nargiddleymetatables can't know if you're going to manipulate the table you access
22:51.29nevcairielsmart code!
22:51.30nevcairiel:D
22:51.34Elsiaisn't that what __newindex allows you to do?
22:51.42nevcairielnot really, no
22:51.55Zeksie__index only gets called if it doesn't exist. __newindex is called when a new one is created
22:52.17Nargiddleyhow would you go about bringing db.table["stuff"] into existance in your code ?
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22:53.00nevcairielif you write your own small meta table to do __newindex only, you will need to rewrite every table access
22:53.00nevcairieland verify its existing already
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22:53.32Elsiahmm I think I start to get it
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22:53.50nevcairiel__index gets caleld when you access a key in a table thats not yet existing
22:53.54Elsiabasically if I try to use __newindex I'll have to create tables like dv.test["tost"]={}
22:53.59nevcairielyes
22:54.14nevcairielyou need explicit table creation
22:54.26nevcairieland the __newindex function can add your template to that new table then
22:54.28nevcairielif you want
22:54.37nevcairielwith __index you get implicit table creationg
22:54.57nevcairielwhich is really more useful for most of the cases AceDB is used
22:55.31Nargiddleyhttp://narg.pastey.net/84815
22:55.38ElsiaI see, well rawget may be the way to go, problem is the code is huge and it's notoriously hard to get these implicit creations
22:56.24Ellipsisnudges Kurax
22:56.25Nargiddleywithout implicit creation the 2nd bit would fail, the metatable sees no difference between the two
22:56.31Elsiatook my 3 full days to trace down what the issue was to begin with, you look at code and it looks perfectly sensible. it completely depends on the key if it's created or just accessed which hides all errors in empty table creates
22:56.54Kuraxfacepalms
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22:57.33Elsiabasically if table[key] then else end doesn't look suspicious and you'd naively expect it to be able to return false
22:58.02zapldont trust others code ;)
22:58.20AmadeoOthers code don't trust you!
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22:58.41KuraxPatching 2.4 =p
22:58.56Elsiaalright, I'll play with rawget and see it goes
22:59.04Elsiahow*
22:59.24NeoTronis that the source of recount data growth in ace then?
22:59.30Elsiaabsolutely
22:59.32NeoTronor rather, excessive growth
22:59.47NeoTroninteresting
22:59.52NeoTronmetatables are tricky thing
22:59.57Elsiaany key I access gets created even if recount just checks existance
23:00.21Elsiathat's a lot of empty tables being created, basically any unique combat log name creates one
23:00.28alcarasis clearfont broken?
23:00.37zaplalcaras: no
23:01.06NeoTroninteresting
23:01.12NeoTronbad Cryect ! >:-)
23:01.30zaplalcaras: just switched to use shared media fonts recently, so maybe some fonts dont show up
23:01.36Elsiawell it's not so obvious that this is a bad thing from a user perspective
23:02.07NeoTronright
23:02.09NeoTronI understand
23:02.14Elsiacryect basically just wrote standard lua, not suspecting that empty tables will create always from access
23:02.23CIA-1003rabbit * r67374 10oRA2/Leader/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Bugfix.
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23:02.30nevcairielmaybe the crazy * was added later on? =P
23:02.32alcaraszapl: hrm, all my fonts are gone
23:03.04Elsiaso if I ditch the * for {} that would work, it'd remove defaulting though but
23:03.20NeoTronI'd argue that stuff like recount data shouldn't be stored with acedb in the first place
23:03.34Elsiawell maybe
23:03.47NeoTronfor magicmarker I leave the mob database in its own saved variable
23:03.52NeoTrononly using the acedb for configuration
23:03.59ElsiaI can imaging unsuspecting options addons that run into a similar issue though, mostly out of ignorance I think
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23:04.21ElsiaNeoTron: How do you use defaults for the mob database or is there just no need?
23:04.26NeoTronno defaults
23:04.32NeoTronand if there was defaults I'd do it manually
23:04.37alcarasdo i need SharedMedia?
23:04.41Elsiawell I could do no defaults for combat data, but people might hate me for loading times
23:04.42alcarasi only have SharedMediaLib rigth now
23:05.11NeoTronwhat defaults do you have for combat data out of curiosity?
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23:05.42Elsiawell all abilities and entries that are not used are defaulted, so if a rogue never gains mana, no data is store
23:05.44Elsiastored*
23:06.38NeoTronjust seems like "default combat data" is illogical
23:06.49NeoTronthe combat data is created when it happens, how can you have default data? :P
23:06.54zaplalcaras: there are 3 sm libs + sm data addons out there but i dont know witch are the one you need. its a little confusing
23:07.01NeoTron"well I think you're going to kill a monster, so here's some default data"
23:07.09Elsiathere is combat data and there is how you organise it into tables
23:07.14alcaraszapl: i'll ust get tehm all
23:07.29zaplthat could fix your problem ^
23:07.33NeoTronI just explicedly do that stuff in my code
23:07.49Elsiatake this example: you want to be able to store how much healing each combant has done, so ther eis a table for it
23:07.52NeoTronalthough I could see using __newindex for my need
23:07.57NeoTronwould save some trouble perhaps
23:08.05Elsiaa rogue never heals so his heals are 0
23:08.06alcarasthanks :)
23:08.23dylanmElsia: So there's a bug with AceDB-3.0?
23:08.31ZeksieI heal loads! with prayer of mending.. Lifebloom...
23:08.39Elsiadylanm: not bug, just a way it works
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23:09.03ElsiaZeksie: good luck gaining mana or resurrecting ;)
23:09.11Zeksiecables!
23:09.26Elsiahmm never seen how cables show in combat logs actually
23:09.33dylanmSo well.
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23:09.41Elsiaanyway, ressing at 0 is good default for most classes and shouldn't be stored
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23:10.59charoni just had a very strange error along the lines of AceEvent3: memory alloc: block too big
23:11.03charonwhen opening ArkInventory
23:11.10charonunfortunately i decided to /rl and now bugsack is clear again
23:11.43Elsiatries rawget...
23:12.12zaplhit b for like an hour to reproduce ...
23:12.55charonzapl: really? ... that would make sense however, it's been running for 6 hours or so
23:13.00aba-does parrot no longer works since 2.4?
23:13.16Chompersnot yet
23:14.01aba-ahh :)
23:14.01Cryect<Zeksie> I heal loads! with prayer of mending.. Lifebloom...
23:14.01zaplcharon: was not meant to be a real advice :)
23:14.01CryectBoth which give you 0 healing in Recount
23:14.01aba-this explains.. so much
23:14.10CryectUnless you casted them (and in case of Lifebloom that person runs lifebloom)
23:14.18CryectI mean runs Recount
23:15.46home|prophyanyone know why im getting [2008/03/31 19:14:58-3547-x1]: Proximo2\auras.lua:78: Couldn't find CVar named 'CombatLogRangeCreature'
23:15.58durcynhome|prophy: because that CVar no longer exists
23:16.11home|prophyhow do i get proximo2 to work?
23:16.12durcynalso proximo 2's been merged into the main trunk/Proximo line, so you should be using that
23:16.19home|prophyo
23:16.26home|prophyso just use regular proximo
23:16.27home|prophyduh
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23:17.23Funkeh`yes, delete proximo2
23:18.38home|prophydo i still need threat-1.0 anymore or has everything been moved to threat-2.0
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23:19.12dylanm1.0 won't work. So I'd say that's safe to do, yes.
23:19.19CIA-1003rabbit * r67375 10Violation/Damage/ (DPS.lua DamageTaken.lua): Violation: Tune up.
23:19.44home|prophyhmm i've got quite a few libs thats useless...like perodictable 2.0, libsink1.0, sharedmedia-2.0, etc
23:19.50home|prophyseems like all of them got updated
23:19.59Hobby-homei wouldn't toss shared media yet
23:19.59sag_ich_nicht[01:11] <charon> unfortunately i decided to /rl and now bugsack is clear again <--you can just get the old sack back
23:20.10durcynsink-1's still used by one or two addons
23:20.21sag_ich_nichtjust go show sack/previous session
23:20.27sag_ich_nicht@ charon
23:20.36zaplhttp://code.google.com/p/jwowupdater I think that one deletes unused libs
23:20.47Stanzillahome|prophy: bigwigs still uses sink1.0...so not useless :P
23:20.47CIA-1003grennon * r67376 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua:
23:20.47CIA-10AutoTurnin:
23:20.47CIA-10Added "Know Your Ley Lines" English
23:20.49Elsiaalright getraw'ing fixes the problem nicely so far.. lets see if I find more offending accesses
23:20.56Elsianev, neo thanks tons for all the info
23:21.46zapleh.. where did cia-9 go?
23:21.48Elsialua> name="test <tost>"; petName, owner = name:match("(.-) <(.*)>") or name
23:21.49lua_botElsia: No output
23:22.00sag_ich_nichtzapl: we exchanged him
23:22.05Elsialua> name="test <tost>"; petName, owner = name:match("(.-) <(.*)>") or name; print(owner or "nil")
23:22.06lua_botElsia: nil
23:22.06sag_ich_nichtkick CIA-10
23:22.07zaploh noes :D
23:22.08AntiarcOkay, so
23:22.14AntiarcI have this stripped-down Threat protocol
23:22.16AntiarcIt works
23:22.21AntiarcAnd I want to transition, and it fixes problems
23:22.25sag_ich_nichtokay
23:22.26sag_ich_nichtnow
23:22.32AntiarcBut I'm iffy to do it before raid time of the last day of the raid week
23:22.34home|prophyi c, is there a list of libs thats still active? since i use NO Externals during an update
23:22.47sag_ich_nichtAntiarc just do it now
23:22.53dylanmAntiarc didn't you do that like twice this week
23:23.00sag_ich_nichtyes he did
23:23.01sag_ich_nichtnow do it
23:23.02sag_ich_nichtalso
23:23.10sag_ich_nichthave you considered using compression with it?
23:23.13Antiarcdylanm: Once
23:23.24Antiarcsag_ich_nicht: Compression isn't worth the CPU for data this small
23:23.24Elsialua> name="test <tost>"; petName, owner = name:match("(.-) <(.*)>") or name; print(owner or "nil"); print(petName or "nil")
23:23.25lua_botElsia: nil, test
23:23.36sag_ich_nichtkk
23:23.45Elsialua> name="test <tost>"; petName, owner = name:match("(.-) <(.*)>") or name, owner; print(owner or "nil"); print(petName or "nil")
23:23.45lua_botElsia: nil, test
23:23.52sag_ich_nichthow much bandwidth does the new protocol save, and is there some loss?
23:23.58hypetechTrying to set Main
23:23.59NivFreakAntiarc: please do it today :)
23:24.00sag_ich_nicht(as in information loss)
23:24.05hypetechTrying to set MainTanks in ora2 is giving me an error
23:24.07hypetech[2008/03/31 19:23:04-706-x2]: oRA2\Leader\MainTank.lua:398: attempt to concatenate local 'index' (a nil value)
23:24.12NivFreakAntiarc: the sooner the better :)
23:24.15sag_ich_nichtagree'd, the sooner the better
23:24.19AntiarcNo info loss, and it's, uh, significantly smaller than the first protocol version
23:24.22AntiarcMaybe half as large
23:24.31NivFreakI vote commit it now
23:24.37NivFreakbefore reset day
23:24.51NivFreakWe've all taken the bumps all week anyway
23:24.53sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: do it now
23:24.56NivFreakI'd rather have it stable for a new reset
23:25.09dylanmAntiarc: Now is a good time to do it, I think. Just in between real content races.
23:25.13NivFreakbtw
23:25.15CIA-1003funkydude * r67377 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council: Fix healing bars showing up when the option is off.
23:25.19NivFreakwhy do we sink under water by default now...
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23:25.22charonsag_ich_nicht: oh right, thanks
23:25.24charonAceEvent-2.0-66043 (oRA2):369: memory allocation error: block too big
23:25.24NivFreakthat makes tanking lurker a bit of a PITA
23:25.32hypetechshould go ahead and update it now antiarc :p
23:25.35dylanmAnd if someone complains just be like "April fools bittttch"
23:25.41charonalso got this one
23:25.43home|prophyis stitch-1.0 being used anymore or has 2.0 completely replaced it
23:25.44charonckknight: PitBull-r67180\Aura\Highlight.lua:66: Bad argument #2 to `newFrame'. table expected, got nil
23:26.09Ellipsiso.O;
23:26.14Ellipsisthta shouldn't happen...
23:26.21GagorianAntiarc: Will the threat clear nuke threat for everyone in the raid?
23:26.24nevcairielit does =P
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23:26.54sag_ich_nichtEllipsis: all errors shouldn't happen
23:27.05Ellipsisthat one *really* shouldn't
23:27.11sag_ich_nichtalso
23:27.11Ellipsis:P
23:27.35sag_ich_nichtAntiarc i still got those ridiculous threat percent numbers
23:27.42sag_ich_nichtwith the threat value being fine
23:27.49NeoTronAntiarc: so how did you "compress" the guid?
23:27.50CIA-1003antiarc * r67378 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua ThreatUtils.lua):
23:27.50CIA-10Threat-2.0:
23:27.50CIA-10- Fix Misdirection
23:27.50CIA-10- Update last compat version
23:27.50CIA-10- New comms protocol. About half as small now, no AceComm serialization overhead. THIS IS BACKWARDS INCOMPATIBLE.
23:27.52AntiarcThat's a UI thing, I'll find it
23:27.53CIA-10- New comms hopefully addresses issues with people not being able to see each other on the meters.
23:27.59AntiarcNeoTron: Binary conversion, really
23:28.06AntiarcEvery 2 digits per GUID is a byte
23:28.10charonEllipsis: i'll see if i can dig up a combatlog for that time
23:28.19AntiarcStrip leading zeroes, etc
23:28.43sag_ich_nicht[01:27] <+Antiarc> That's a UI thing, I'll find it <--i think it might be related to a lot of other corruption in general :P
23:28.52NivFreakAntiarc: thanks for commiting early :)
23:28.56NeoTronso I have something similar
23:29.02NivFreakAntiarc: you should post new snapshots after you make incompatible changes
23:29.03NeoTronI assume you remove the first 3 too
23:29.05sag_ich_nichtbecause normally percent calculations are very simple
23:29.09AntiarcNivFreak: I'm going to
23:29.12Ellipsischaron: that won't help
23:29.12hypetechTTL on commits is 20 minutes right?
23:29.14NivFreakfor these lamer bastards who can't figure out wowace.com
23:29.14AntiarcAs soon as files updates
23:29.18Antiarchypetech: Yes
23:29.20hypetechk
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23:29.38charonEllipsis: if you say so. thought it might have something to do with the (de)buffs involved
23:29.39ArrowmasterAntiarc: why couldnt you do that earlyer!
23:29.46NeoTronAntiarc: I can convert 13 digit guid (example guid minus first 3) to 4 bytes
23:29.55NivFreakAntiarc: is your protocol actually versioned? It'd be nice to have a msg pop up telling people to update or GTFO
23:30.02Pkekyo|running internet services on windows is like playing russian roulette with a glock >.<
23:30.10NeoTronfull 16 digit guid is 8 bytes using the same method
23:30.18AntiarcNivFreak: Threat is versioned. I can update a last compatible revision number which triggers all kinds of alerts.
23:30.29NivFreakthat'd be awesome
23:30.29AntiarcNeoTron: Yeah. I'm using the full 16-digit guid.
23:30.39Ellipsischaron: no, the problem is with frame creation
23:30.40NivFreaksome of our folks, who apparently have low IQ didn't figure that out for themselves
23:30.55charonoh.
23:31.22charoni had config mode up a few times during raid
23:31.23charon*shrug*
23:31.25NeoTronI just don't take two "digits" but use shifting so 10000000 is less space than ffffffff
23:31.27charonno idea what else might have triggered it
23:35.09CIA-1003elsia * r67379 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua Widgets.lua):
23:35.09CIA-10Recount:
23:35.09CIA-10- Fixed stealth generation of combatants by table access via getraw (thanks to nev and neo for leads). There may be more instances of this but this was the main offender.
23:35.09CIA-10- Fixed hidden scrollbar to no longer intercept mouse clicks
23:35.11CIA-10- Fixed a bug that allowed double owners label to appear of pets that died.
23:35.44NivFreakAntiarc: so shatter, misdirect, and threat wipes are all supposed to be working now?
23:36.23AntiarcCorrect.
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23:37.04NivFreaknice
23:37.18NivFreaklooks like the only threalib bugs open don't have any real confirmation?
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23:37.47durcyn[Ammo]: Violation/Violation.lua:923: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
23:37.59ArrowmasterAntiarc: should we see threat wipes on illidan tonight?
23:38.04AntiarcYes.
23:38.07Arrowmastercool
23:38.14NeoTronkalecgos fun: high dps class getting 2x dmg on crit AND 2x threat wild magic at the same time
23:38.27Zeksieis away -( sleep )- at 12:38a -( P:On / L:On )-
23:38.47Arrowmasterfucking raid invites start at 6:45pm server time, new backwards incompat Omen wont be on files till 6:40pm server time
23:38.56Arrowmastershould have commited earlyer
23:39.04Gngskheh
23:39.14NivFreaklawl
23:39.17NeoTroncheck it out from svn, make your own package and make ppl upgrade :P
23:39.19Gngskcheckout from svn and post it somewhere so you guild can DL it
23:39.22Gngsk^^^
23:39.41NivFreakAntiarc: have you played with AoE much lately?
23:39.46Arrowmasteri have the link to the nonexistant Omen-r67366.1.zip already in my vent comment
23:39.52AntiarcNo, I've been working on other stuff :)
23:40.04NivFreakk
23:40.13NivFreakI'll try and get some screenshots for you wednesday
23:41.42sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: think this proctol change will decrease CPU usage as well? i'm still getting horrible FPS drops at AoE packs/generally the more mobs are involved
23:42.20sag_ich_nicht(indirectly by having less data to work with i mean)
23:42.45AntiarcThe FPS issue is a UI sisue, not a comms issue
23:43.18Elsiaping cryect
23:43.31ArrowmasterAntiarc: you should make the classic skin with the module bar enabled the default skin imho
23:43.33NivFreakdid I see correctly that someone made an update to the old version of omen?
23:43.39AntiarcOh?
23:43.41ArrowmasterAntiarc: i think a lot of people would like it
23:43.42AntiarcLink?
23:44.11NivFreakAntiarc: let me see if I can track it down, this was from a guildie last night
23:44.32sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: well i'd appreciate it if you could fix this rather quickly, half of my raid goes down to like 1 fps because of it and many even get disconnects due to old pcs... which isn't so bad in eye where you have little bombing packs except for solarian trash, but in hyjal it's horrendous
23:44.49NeoTronAntiarc: So yeah, I am just saying that I find it incredibly lazy that you haven't yet implemented ... THREAT HERO
23:44.53AntiarcI'm working on it, sag_ich_nicht
23:44.56NeoTronzomg
23:44.57sag_ich_nicht:D
23:45.02NeoTronI need that
23:45.03dylanmAntiarc: Did you see the alternate GUI someone made? Someone posted it in #ej the other day when you were gone.
23:45.04AntiarcI have about 9 billion things to address :P
23:45.05NivFreaksag_ich_nicht: we had that problem on the first abomination wave on rage, but only once
23:45.08CIA-10037destiny * r67380 10Omen/Localization/koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update
23:45.13NivFreaksag_ich_nicht: and it stopped after that
23:45.16Antiarcdylanm: I didn't. Link?
23:45.20sag_ich_nichtwe have it constantly NivFreak
23:45.23NivFreakare you guys using AoE mode?
23:45.24Antiarc(And awesome, that's why ThreatLib is a library!)
23:45.25NivFreakor single target
23:45.39sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: unplayability=ugh
23:45.51charonsag_ich_nicht: no slowdowns for me either
23:45.56NivFreaksag_ich_nicht: I hear KTM is working on 2.4
23:45.59NivFreak;)
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23:46.02charonwell, some when clicking around in MagicMarker, but that's hardly Threat's problem :P
23:46.37Poul|Raiderhow do you link the raid icons in chat?
23:46.41Antiarc<PROTECTED>
23:46.42hypetechora2 won't let me set MainTanks
23:46.43hypetecherrors
23:46.43exor674{star}
23:46.59Poul|Raiderwhy is it you see some people write {skull} then?
23:47.04Poul|Raidernot showing the icon
23:47.12Poul|Raideronly work in some chats
23:47.12FlisherBoya Antiarc :).  Had the chance to see my Omen module?
23:47.13Poul|Raider?
23:47.20NivFreakbtw, my healers that were having UI lockups all removed the ora2 layouts module, and it stopped
23:47.23[Liquidor]this is just crazy ... even at this time -.- http://i29.tinypic.com/34j7jw8.jpg
23:47.26NivFreaker
23:47.28CIA-1003sayclub * r67381 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua:
23:47.28CIA-10GridStatusRaidDebuff:
23:47.28CIA-10- Fixed
23:47.28NivFreakthe grid module
23:47.38AntiarcFlisher: Not yet - have a link for me?
23:47.42NeoTroncharon: what?! do you mean mob database?
23:47.52Flisherhttp://downloads.curse.com/details/2175/  
23:47.54NeoTroncharon: if so it's likely because I dynamically generate the config on demand
23:48.25charonNeoTron: yeah could be, dunno. i was randomly trying out stuff, and sometimes it would freeze for ~1s when i clicked one of the dropdowns
23:48.28Elsianite
23:48.34charonother than that it's plain brilliant :)
23:49.06Flisheryou can see the look on the screenshot.  Basicaly it work for key spell right now (for people having RaidAwareness).   There are minor glitch of cooldown when invite are sent/  when someone leave teh raid the bar doesn't clear up.  Those are minor issue i'll fix this week.  I'll also add more option like text option and spell option.
23:49.07NeoTroncharon: I did it because even just one instance or so used excessive amounts of memory for no good reason
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23:50.08FlisherOnce those are done i'll check for a fubar and recount layout.  Omen is my proof-of-concept for RaidAwareness modularity :).  I'll also use more Ace3 stuff :)   (used omen model to convert from ace2 to ace3 :)
23:51.00charonNeoTron: i think it's fine. it may even be related to the ArkInventory memory hogging i mentioned earlier and not MM's fault
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23:51.14AntiarcNeat. I'll take a peek at it!
23:51.16charoneither way i don't expect to set up markers in combat so short lags aren't an issue
23:51.18FroMasterIn Pitbull, when Saving a Layout I type in the name but there is no Save button or any way for it to take effect... I'm I missing something?
23:51.33charonanother idea... is there an addon that will track hidden proc cooldowns?
23:52.20CIA-1003pettigrow * r67382 10BigBrother/localization_frFR.lua: BigBrother: frFR Update
23:52.32charonoh, there's one on curse
23:52.43sag_ich_nichthttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_341689 <--hilarious troll is hilarious
23:53.25CIA-1003pettigrow * r67383 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (7 files): BigWigs_Azeroth: frFR update
23:54.05ArrowmasterAntiarc: btw you should pull in the new version of LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0 from branches, theres a lib upgrade issue where it overwrites your custom OpenMenu, but ill fix that later
23:54.36ArrowmasterAntiarc: going to make it not overwrite custom funcs on lib upgrade
23:55.22AntiarcWill do
23:57.09FroMasterLooks like the Save Layout in Pitbull is broken
23:57.28CIA-1003antiarc * r67384 10Omen/ (Config.lua Localization/enUS.lua Omen.lua): Omen: Add a command to whisper out-of-date clients with update information. /omen versioncheck whisper. Requires group leader/assistant.
23:57.55Dashkalooo that's nice
23:58.04ArrowmasterAntiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/84818
23:58.42charoni'm _so_ going to comment out the leader/assistant safety check
23:59.34sag_ich_nichtAntiarc: NAIS
23:59.36sag_ich_nichtoh yes
23:59.41sag_ich_nichtsome people will cry tomorrow
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