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| 00:02.06 | Arrowmaster | my friend is bitching that prat is breaking EBBs |
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| 00:03.27 | sylvanaar | no idea |
| 00:03.44 | sylvanaar | i just upgraded prat to libsharedmedia-3.0 |
| 00:03.50 | sylvanaar | im guessing that's it |
| 00:05.16 | sylvanaar | course, an error would be helpful |
| 00:05.42 | Pkekyo| | http://pkekyo.deviantart.com/art/Scorched-Night-80931220 lookie lookie have a cookie |
| 00:06.05 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.53 | Sole | i like cookies |
| 00:07.29 | [SW]Dodge | ~framexml |
| 00:07.30 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 00:07.34 | Pkekyo| | http://pkekyo.deviantart.com/art/No-Trespassing-80931560 lookie moar have an attentionwhore |
| 00:07.34 | Sole | Pkekyo|: I like it, although my eyes are drawn to the sky almost instantly |
| 00:07.35 | Pkekyo| | kek |
| 00:07.37 | [SW]Dodge | ty purl |
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| 00:07.48 | Pkekyo| | Sole: that's kinda the point |
| 00:07.53 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: hmm that actually sounds possible since he says EBBs just wasnt rendering anything, hes using 65487 of prat now |
| 00:08.04 | Sole | Pkekyo|: did I mention I like it? |
| 00:08.10 | Pkekyo| | yup |
| 00:08.14 | Pkekyo| | :> glad you do |
| 00:08.18 | Sole | wait |
| 00:08.19 | Sole | thats a photo? |
| 00:08.22 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster i |
| 00:08.30 | Pkekyo| | yes it's a photo |
| 00:08.31 | Sole | I thought those clouds were photoshopped >< |
| 00:08.38 | Pkekyo| | nope |
| 00:08.48 | Sole | helps to read teh description right under the photo |
| 00:08.49 | Sole | kek |
| 00:08.53 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster idk perhaps LSM-3.0 has a bug? |
| 00:09.03 | Pkekyo| | it's 95% close to what I saw with my own eyes (white balance is slightly off, but meh) |
| 00:09.37 | Sole | so is that city lights and a factory? |
| 00:09.39 | Pkekyo| | I'd fallen asleep on the couch...woke up at 2am and took that photo |
| 00:09.41 | Sole | or a bush fire? |
| 00:10.05 | Pkekyo| | not city lights, it's a small island with a low population...the few lights you see over at the dock is a gas refinery |
| 00:10.54 | Kurax | Bah, forgot CN servers are still down, shouldn't woke up so early |
| 00:11.18 | Pkekyo| | think it was like that because the lights got reflected off a heavy coat of snow...not quite sure though...never seen anything like that before |
| 00:11.58 | Sole | looks cool |
| 00:12.24 | Pkekyo| | agreed...woke up...saw it was 2am and went 'why the flying fuck is the sun still up?!' xD |
| 00:14.36 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster for example, how do LSM's callbacks get handled if LSM is embed-upgraded? |
| 00:14.50 | NivFreak | oh shit |
| 00:14.52 | NivFreak | ptr forums are down? |
| 00:14.56 | Sole | just curious, where do you live? |
| 00:15.00 | Pkekyo| | holy hell...uploaded not ten minutes ago, allready got added to favs by several people |
| 00:15.01 | NivFreak | all forums are down |
| 00:15.03 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: theyre handled by callbackhandler-1.0 |
| 00:15.08 | nevcairiel | blizzard forums are on maintenance |
| 00:15.12 | Pkekyo| | Sole: norway |
| 00:15.45 | Sole | sweet |
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| 00:16.23 | sylvanaar | What does this mean: "CallbackHandler purposefully does NOT do explicit embedding. Nor does it try to upgrade old implicit embeds..." |
| 00:16.59 | nevcairiel | that it doesnt upgrade already existing embeded copys of callback handler |
| 00:17.22 | sylvanaar | how about whatever embedded cbh? |
| 00:17.38 | sylvanaar | what happens to the existing callbacks? |
| 00:17.56 | nevcairiel | the lib itself can upgrade fine, it just needs to store the callback handler reference |
| 00:18.00 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r65580 10InfiniBar-2.0/MacroSupport.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - More work streamlining the macro parser. |
| 00:18.56 | sylvanaar | does LSM-3.0 do that? |
| 00:19.22 | sylvanaar | doesnt really look like it to me, but what do i know |
| 00:19.26 | nevcairiel | looks |
| 00:19.41 | nevcairiel | yes it does |
| 00:21.40 | nevcairiel | lib.callbacks = lib.callbacks or CallbackHandler:New(lib) |
| 00:21.43 | nevcairiel | thats all you need to do |
| 00:21.48 | sylvanaar | well, thats the only way i can see that it could break EBB |
| 00:21.48 | nevcairiel | and it'll work |
| 00:24.01 | sylvanaar | how does that upgrade from a previous version |
| 00:24.21 | nevcairiel | it doesnt |
| 00:24.29 | sylvanaar | mkay |
| 00:24.30 | nevcairiel | like you quoted, callbackhandler doesnt upgrade itself |
| 00:24.43 | nevcairiel | and thats on purpose |
| 00:25.13 | sylvanaar | yeah, allright, but what about LSM? doesnt it need to do lib, oldlib = NewLibrary() |
| 00:25.38 | nevcairiel | oldlib would just be the revision number of the previous copy |
| 00:25.50 | nevcairiel | if you dont need that for special upgrading tasks.. |
| 00:26.25 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 00:26.25 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 00:26.31 | nevcairiel | just found something |
| 00:26.40 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 00:26.44 | NeoTron | a kitten |
| 00:26.52 | haste | a infatable dildo |
| 00:27.05 | Chompers | kitten shaped perhaps |
| 00:27.09 | NeoTron | http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6572/catladyzr1.jpg crazy cat lady action figure |
| 00:27.13 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Elkano * r65581 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0/LibSharedMedia-3.0.lua: LibSharedMedia-3.0: set svn keywords so library upgrading works =P |
| 00:27.22 | nevcairiel | oh, i'm still using the branch |
| 00:27.24 | nevcairiel | oops |
| 00:27.27 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:27.35 | sylvanaar | happens to me all the time |
| 00:27.35 | nevcairiel | switches to trunk |
| 00:28.41 | nevcairiel | someone needs to teach elkano to not use tabs for alignment |
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| 00:29.54 | Kurax | What's the orange text for, in update notes? |
| 00:30.01 | nevcairiel | branch name |
| 00:30.15 | Kurax | I see |
| 00:30.57 | Tuller | hey nevcairiel [bonusbar:1] will solve all of your aquatic form problems! :) |
| 00:31.05 | nevcairiel | srsly? |
| 00:31.21 | Tuller | I switched to using bonusbar for everything in bongos |
| 00:31.31 | nevcairiel | no stance stuff anymore? |
| 00:31.35 | Tuller | right |
| 00:31.39 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 00:31.46 | Tuller | instead of [form] |
| 00:31.58 | Arrowmaster | does it work with possession bar too? |
| 00:32.05 | Tuller | bonusbar:5 does, yeah |
| 00:32.06 | nevcairiel | poss is bonus:5 |
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| 00:32.22 | Tuller | shadowform is fixed if you go the bonus route, too |
| 00:32.24 | nevcairiel | what stance is what bonusbar anyway? docs somewhere? code to look it up? |
| 00:32.55 | Arrowmaster | oh i was thinking you were saying that bonusbar:1 was all you needed to copy the blizz functionality |
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| 00:33.44 | Tuller | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBonusBarOffset#Details |
| 00:34.00 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 00:34.02 | nevcairiel | it maps to those |
| 00:34.04 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 00:34.19 | nevcairiel | nukes crazy stance detection code |
| 00:34.29 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 00:34.29 | Tuller | the only thing you cannot use for those are things that do not normally have bonusbar stuff |
| 00:34.36 | Tuller | aka, travel form/aquatic |
| 00:34.42 | Tuller | but who switches on that anyway? :P |
| 00:34.49 | nevcairiel | bonusbar:1,stealth still works, right? |
| 00:34.52 | Tuller | right |
| 00:35.36 | Tuller | throw in GetSpellInfo(spellID) for localization, and you have bongos beta4 :P |
| 00:35.46 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 00:35.55 | nevcairiel | going to lookup the spell ids tomorrow |
| 00:35.58 | nevcairiel | wanted to do that anyway |
| 00:36.11 | Kurax | nevcairiel: What if I do some localizations on Ace3 in trunk, will they can be merged properly? |
| 00:36.13 | JoshBorke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 00:36.13 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of nevcairiel |
| 00:36.25 | JoshBorke | you can't commit to ACe3 in trunk |
| 00:36.37 | NeoTron | needs to make a lttle shared project that has spell ID => crowd control method lookup |
| 00:36.38 | Kurax | Guess so |
| 00:36.41 | nevcairiel | Kurax: localize the file and send it to me, mail@nevcairiel.net or so |
| 00:36.49 | Kurax | That's why I ask |
| 00:36.55 | NeoTron | since I need it in two projects and really don't want to manually modify two places if it changes.. |
| 00:36.55 | JoshBorke | quick, sign him up for spam! |
| 00:37.01 | NivFreak | hrmm |
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| 00:37.08 | JoshBorke | you would have learned quick enough =D |
| 00:37.10 | NivFreak | anyone know boss point values for wowjutsu? |
| 00:37.19 | NeoTron | NivFreak: the wowjutsu author |
| 00:37.27 | NivFreak | outside of that? :P |
| 00:37.35 | NeoTron | not more than what was posted long ago |
| 00:37.53 | NivFreak | hrmm, where was it posted? |
| 00:37.59 | NeoTron | it's amazing how irrelevant wowjustu became after we cleared all content :P |
| 00:38.04 | NeoTron | long ago and likely very invalid |
| 00:38.08 | NeoTron | so .. don't bother ;) |
| 00:38.12 | keiss | GetSpellInfo work with the spellname in any localization (eg. if do GetSpellInfo("english name") on a german client it will work?) |
| 00:38.17 | NeoTron | value is dynamic |
| 00:38.34 | Arrowmaster | keiss: it only works on spells in your spellbook anyway |
| 00:38.34 | Kurax | Keiss: wont work |
| 00:38.36 | nevcairiel | doesnt GetSpellInfo only take spell ids? |
| 00:38.50 | NivFreak | I just need 2 points to jump 3 guilds! |
| 00:38.51 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:38.51 | Arrowmaster | spellid or names of spells in your own spellbook |
| 00:38.55 | keiss | wowwiki says spellid and spellName |
| 00:39.05 | NeoTron | NivFreak: just compare the killed bosses |
| 00:39.07 | nevcairiel | spellId works for stuff not in my spellbook, though |
| 00:39.22 | NeoTron | I assume it uses spellid to do the spell links in 2.4 |
| 00:39.38 | keiss | Arrowmaster: i know it will work for spells in ur spellbook , but can the spellName be in a diff. localization then the client ? |
| 00:39.42 | NivFreak | NeoTron: we have the same, they've just been stuck for months :P |
| 00:39.49 | Tuller | GetSpellInfo(5215) |
| 00:40.08 | NeoTron | which means they might have more loot than you |
| 00:40.15 | NeoTron | it matters, marginally |
| 00:40.17 | Kurax | You cant use English spell names as parameter in deDE clients, right? |
| 00:40.24 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 00:40.28 | keiss | thats what iam asking |
| 00:40.30 | Kurax | If you can, what's Babble-Spell for |
| 00:40.39 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 00:40.40 | nevcairiel | babble-spell is SO 2.3 |
| 00:40.44 | NivFreak | is doomwalker easy to kill with 25 people? |
| 00:40.47 | keiss | well GetSpellInfo is new ... |
| 00:40.53 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: pretty much |
| 00:40.55 | NivFreak | or kazzak (pvp server mind you) |
| 00:40.57 | NeoTron | NivFreak: one boss we've never even tried killing |
| 00:41.06 | NeoTron | he's often up, all alone, outside BT |
| 00:41.09 | NeoTron | no one bothers :P |
| 00:41.14 | NeoTron | not like the green dragons back in the day |
| 00:41.17 | NivFreak | not like the loot is worth it |
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| 00:41.24 | nevcairiel | the loot is BoE come 2.4 |
| 00:41.26 | nevcairiel | sellable! |
| 00:41.28 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:41.29 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 00:41.32 | NivFreak | that might be more interesting |
| 00:41.43 | NivFreak | I'd like to kill them while I can get wowjutsu credit ;) |
| 00:41.48 | NeoTron | but the green dragons had some unique loot |
| 00:41.57 | NeoTron | like the NR stuff |
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| 00:42.07 | NeoTron | the BC outdoor boss loot really isn't very good |
| 00:42.22 | nevcairiel | its just some additional stuff on gruul level |
| 00:42.23 | nevcairiel | or so |
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| 00:42.57 | DJNW | Neo: far as I've heard, the kazzak gun's best BM gun before BT, wasn't it? I'd call that good. 'specially when it becomes BoE... |
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| 00:45.14 | NeoTron | dunno but haven't heard any hunters yearning to kill kazzak |
| 00:45.26 | ckknight | anyone here been in a heroic? Are the mobs' levels higher in them? |
| 00:45.52 | Arrowmaster | depends on the heroic |
| 00:46.02 | nevcairiel | ckknight: depends on the heroic |
| 00:46.03 | Pkekyo| | what does 'ample' mean? |
| 00:46.11 | ckknight | so they can be different, then? |
| 00:46.15 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 00:46.16 | ckknight | alright |
| 00:46.23 | nevcairiel | ckknight: heroics are always lvl 70 content, so if the intial instance was lvl 60, they get bumped to 70 |
| 00:46.26 | Tuller | shame on you for not actually playing warcraft :P |
| 00:46.32 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:46.40 | ckknight | Tuller: what? I'm too busy coding |
| 00:46.51 | Tuller | bah :P |
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| 00:46.54 | Sent | How long does it takes to the wowace-svn-requests guys to replay normaly |
| 00:47.07 | Funkeh` | hello |
| 00:47.09 | nevcairiel | just annoy Kaelten to work the queue again |
| 00:47.12 | ckknight | heroics are only for parties or for raids as well? |
| 00:47.16 | Pkekyo| | ~dict ample |
| 00:47.17 | nevcairiel | only partys |
| 00:47.21 | ckknight | thanks |
| 00:47.29 | Kaelten | Sent: sorry mate, I'm way fucking behind on em |
| 00:47.38 | Pkekyo| | thanks purl |
| 00:47.49 | NivFreak | oh wow |
| 00:47.50 | NivFreak | they reverted the cleave/swipe/multishot changes |
| 00:47.54 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 00:47.57 | Sent | Kaelton: O.o |
| 00:47.57 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: now what? |
| 00:47.58 | nevcairiel | good thing, too |
| 00:48.13 | Odlaw | ample opportunity |
| 00:48.16 | nevcairiel | l2p and dont multi-shot on sheeps |
| 00:48.18 | NivFreak | good, now I get to gkick hunters! |
| 00:48.21 | dylanm | Oh the anti-skill measures? |
| 00:48.25 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:48.34 | Pkekyo| | what cleave/swipe/multishot changes? |
| 00:48.37 | NivFreak | http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-multi-shot-5463899193.html |
| 00:48.54 | nevcairiel | PTR got a patch that multishot etc would not hit sheeps or other CC targets |
| 00:48.59 | nevcairiel | but that was reverted |
| 00:49.01 | nevcairiel | silently.. |
| 00:49.15 | Tuller | nice |
| 00:49.18 | Kurax | haha |
| 00:49.23 | Tuller | more entertainment for me |
| 00:50.08 | NivFreak | I had 3 seperate hunters multishot into sheep last night |
| 00:50.10 | NivFreak | =/ |
| 00:50.22 | NivFreak | might be 3 less of them soon |
| 00:50.23 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 00:50.30 | Tuller | I multishot stuff when I'm bored, but only in groups of friends |
| 00:50.31 | Nandini | i'm certain i swiped a sheep too on ptr |
| 00:50.32 | Pkekyo| | multishot hitting sheeps is a good thing |
| 00:50.38 | Pkekyo| | less huntards grabbing all my loot :p |
| 00:50.51 | Nandini | that i did not have targeted, mind you |
| 00:51.25 | Pkekyo| | had this hunter in guild that used to win ALL the gear...even healer gear...he got it all |
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| 00:51.44 | DJNW | Nandini: did you have DWIM mode turned on? |
| 00:51.52 | sylvanaar | are you not supposed to use callbackhandler as an external? |
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| 00:52.03 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: no you can |
| 00:52.07 | Zeksie | any news on 2.4 being today yet? being told it is, but really wanna tell them no it's not. |
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| 00:52.35 | Kurax | Still a myst |
| 00:52.36 | sylvanaar | well LSM-3 has version 2 and ace3 has version 3 |
| 00:52.51 | sylvanaar | and people are saying installing ace3 seems to fix the lsm-3 issues |
| 00:52.59 | nevcairiel | Zeksie: the full 2.4 patch appeared on some page |
| 00:53.21 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: ? |
| 00:53.22 | Yssaril | Zeksie, http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/download_6188262.html |
| 00:53.28 | Tuller | if installing ace3 fixes it, could that be a wacky libstub/callback? |
| 00:53.50 | Kurax | 2.4 patch has been pushed to clients of world through background downloading a week ago |
| 00:54.04 | Kurax | Well, at least here |
| 00:54.04 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r65582 10LibSharedMedia-3.0/CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: LibSharedMedia-3.0: - update callbackhandler |
| 00:54.04 | Zeksie | yeah, got the pre-download already. not worried about htat. |
| 00:54.09 | Matrix110 | wouldnt the info screen show it for US people by now? |
| 00:54.21 | nevcairiel | Kurax: thats the full 2.x.x -> 2.4.0 patch (over 900mb) |
| 00:54.35 | Matrix110 | and normally there is a forum notice at monday aswell |
| 00:54.47 | nevcairiel | Matrix110: was a holiday =P |
| 00:54.56 | Matrix110 | yeye I know but still |
| 00:55.23 | Matrix110 | ah well Ill visit the bed now and see when i get up :D |
| 00:55.46 | Yssaril | Xinhuan, any idea when Handynotes will be out of beta? |
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| 00:55.56 | Xinhuan | when i get around to it lol |
| 00:56.00 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 00:56.25 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r65583 10LibHealComm-3.0/CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: |
| 00:56.26 | CIA-9 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 00:56.26 | CIA-9 | - update CallbackHandler |
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| 00:56.46 | Antiarc | So, we still thinking 2.4 tomorrow? |
| 00:56.52 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 00:56.56 | Antiarc | Woot. |
| 00:57.41 | Tuller | so will damage meters give me some sort of super power tomorrow, then? :P |
| 00:57.45 | rubik | hmm.. no other parts of the patch here.. that one big file was the biggest chunk then? |
| 00:58.01 | NivFreak | I only got 1 part from the DLer |
| 00:58.03 | NivFreak | for enUS |
| 00:58.06 | sb | 2 |
| 00:58.10 | nevcairiel | 2 parts here |
| 00:58.11 | keiss | 2 parts here |
| 00:58.11 | sb | go download! :p |
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| 00:58.13 | keiss | EU |
| 00:58.21 | rubik | yes.. one part here too and only 251MB in size |
| 00:58.24 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:58.27 | rubik | (enUS) |
| 00:58.31 | NivFreak | 263858284 |
| 00:58.34 | nevcairiel | maybe EU got the second part only |
| 00:58.40 | NivFreak | wow-partial-1.MPQ |
| 00:59.07 | keiss | i got 260MB file and 23.9 file partial-1 and partial-2 |
| 00:59.08 | DJNW | what's been pushed out, is the stuff that won't change - models, textures and stuff like that |
| 00:59.45 | rubik | weird.. mine is diff size but is complete.. 263786338 bytes |
| 01:00.09 | keiss | 273663904 ... hm :D |
| 01:00.47 | statue | 260,768,340 for zhTW |
| 01:00.51 | nevcairiel | 298767127 |
| 01:00.55 | nevcairiel | for enGB |
| 01:01.13 | nevcairiel | (both files combined) |
| 01:01.15 | keiss | yes 1+2 is exactly that size |
| 01:01.19 | Kurax | 0 for zhCN! |
| 01:01.24 | Kurax | Great! |
| 01:01.25 | rubik | it's all the extra letters in spelling.. colour vs. color, neighbour, etc. |
| 01:01.47 | DJNW | umlauts weigh more :) |
| 01:01.47 | nevcairiel | rubik: they actually patch all supported european languages with one patch, thats why EU patches are always bigger |
| 01:02.06 | rubik | :P (was just joking) |
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| 01:02.19 | rubik | but that makes sense, definitely |
| 01:02.22 | nevcairiel | i know, still felt like explaining :P |
| 01:02.30 | NivFreak | man, forums are up and down |
| 01:02.46 | Kurax | elevator |
| 01:03.32 | Kurax | How could my taint.log is 2G |
| 01:04.56 | Xinhuan | it generates about a hundred mb per minute that's why |
| 01:05.01 | Xinhuan | on taintLog 2 |
| 01:05.13 | Xinhuan | every OnUpdate is running a tainted function, so it gets logged |
| 01:05.15 | Kurax | :/ Guess I should turn it to 1 then |
| 01:05.33 | Xinhuan | for every addon that uses an OnUpdate that is |
| 01:06.07 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r65584 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid.lua: |
| 01:06.07 | CIA-9 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 01:06.07 | CIA-9 | - Spell Tracker will behave more sensibly when a buff target moves out of range (Will keep timer ticking). |
| 01:06.07 | CIA-9 | - Spell Tracker will highlight bright red if the click target is not the same as intended tracking target, because of in-combat change. |
| 01:06.28 | Kurax | If I totally turn it off, would my raids be more smoother? |
| 01:06.50 | sb | yes :p |
| 01:06.51 | Nandini | there really is no reason to have your taint log on, unless an addon author has asked you to |
| 01:07.07 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt have taintlog on anyway |
| 01:07.07 | Xinhuan | yes, your fps will go up by 5-15 |
| 01:07.13 | sb | 5-15? more like 20-30 :p |
| 01:07.19 | Xinhuan | constantly writing 10 mb a min to the disk chokes fps |
| 01:07.22 | kenlyric | something always taints when I start combat |
| 01:07.49 | nevcairiel | taintLog 2 is evil |
| 01:07.59 | nevcairiel | i always run with 1 to notice when something went wrong |
| 01:08.28 | Nandini | well, you are someone who is capable of actually tracking it down and doing something about it, unlike many of the rest of us :) |
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| 01:08.47 | Arrowmaster | boo we wiped on mag at 11% |
| 01:08.47 | FRUCHT | hi |
| 01:09.04 | FRUCHT | i was just wondering if prat is now even more fucked up than yesterday? |
| 01:09.07 | Kurax | I wiped my OEM vista and reinstalled Windows XP, and my FPS increased about 100, unbelievable but true |
| 01:09.07 | Nandini | i usually turn it on if i've installed a new or significantly changed addon, test it for an hour or so, then turn it off |
| 01:09.13 | Arrowmaster | its fine update |
| 01:09.22 | FRUCHT | i did |
| 01:09.27 | sylvanaar | update again |
| 01:09.29 | FRUCHT | now it's not working at all |
| 01:09.32 | sylvanaar | and restart your game |
| 01:09.52 | sb | i dont get that gamespot 2.4 thingie |
| 01:10.09 | Arrowmaster | gamespot 2.4 thingie? |
| 01:10.13 | sb | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/download_6188262.html |
| 01:10.43 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 01:10.56 | nevcairiel | its the full 2.4 patch for enUS |
| 01:11.02 | nevcairiel | not the 2.3.3 -> 2.4 partial |
| 01:11.22 | kenlyric | wouldn't that patch have to be out? |
| 01:11.36 | doc^blup | not if blizz gives it to them |
| 01:11.48 | kenlyric | is it actually there? |
| 01:11.52 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 01:12.03 | kenlyric | so why are people still arguing about patch tomorrow? |
| 01:12.07 | sb | or some bg downloaded version |
| 01:12.19 | JoshBorke | who cares |
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| 01:12.38 | nevcairiel | sb: its a full 930mb patch, you dont get that from bg loader =P |
| 01:12.39 | kenlyric | oh, gamespot, didn't see |
| 01:12.41 | kenlyric | nvm |
| 01:13.07 | NeoTron | so if they have the full retail patch that'd indicate the patch is done |
| 01:13.24 | Nandini | it's the same as the incremental patch |
| 01:13.31 | Nandini | only with the previous patches in it |
| 01:13.41 | FRUCHT | my prat's still borked |
| 01:13.48 | Arrowmaster | mine works fine |
| 01:13.50 | FRUCHT | it's doing nothing to the chat |
| 01:13.54 | NivFreak | well, that'd be nice if 2.4 hit tomorrow |
| 01:13.55 | FRUCHT | and the set up menu is all fucked up too |
| 01:13.56 | NivFreak | more tier5 for us |
| 01:14.08 | Nandini | i'm not in any rush for 2.4 |
| 01:14.09 | sb | meh |
| 01:14.14 | sb | forum maintenance now |
| 01:14.16 | sb | sucks :) |
| 01:14.18 | FRUCHT | i can't select anything, none of the boxes are checked etc. |
| 01:14.24 | Nandini | every week sooner they release 2.4 is another week we are stuck playing 2.4 until wotlk comes out. heheh |
| 01:14.27 | NivFreak | now I just need defenderx3 to drop for a while |
| 01:14.34 | FRUCHT | is it worth trying to download an outdated release and hope that might work? |
| 01:14.39 | Kurax | I'm in rush for the bitch king |
| 01:14.45 | Kurax | opps, lich king |
| 01:15.04 | NivFreak | it'll be interesting to see when the expansion comes out |
| 01:15.11 | NivFreak | considering TBC beta was up for over a year iirc |
| 01:15.17 | Nandini | FRUCHT: i'm not sure how we can judge what it would be worth to you |
| 01:15.36 | FRUCHT | any chance at all? |
| 01:16.03 | Nandini | prat is working fine for me here, so i'd say it would be worth more for you to figure out why it isn't working for you |
| 01:16.20 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65585 10StatBlocks_Durability/StatBlocks_Durability.lua: StatBlocks_Durability: bugfix |
| 01:16.27 | Nandini | also, i'd suggest you not update any of your addons anymore if you're afraid of them breaking :P |
| 01:16.29 | Arrowmaster | mine works perfectly fine too |
| 01:16.48 | Nandini | you can always download "stable" versions from any of the various addon sites |
| 01:16.48 | NivFreak | prat was throwing an error for the last couple of days for me, but working fine |
| 01:16.52 | NivFreak | some AceLocale error |
| 01:16.58 | Yssaril | anyone know of a tool where i can extract wow ui art files? |
| 01:17.17 | Nandini | it's called blizzards UI customization tool i think, search the blizz support site |
| 01:17.18 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 01:17.18 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 01:17.22 | FRUCHT | well, i just like to see new stuff added to my addons |
| 01:17.33 | FRUCHT | so i use the ace updater in an aoe kind of way :P |
| 01:17.41 | kenlyric | just the error it's been giving all week: [2008/03/24 21:11:25-868-x1]: Prat-2.0 65487.65553\Prat.lua:2223: AceLocale-2.2: Bad argument #2 to `?' (string expected, got nil) |
| 01:17.48 | Nandini | even if new means new errors were added? :P |
| 01:17.50 | kenlyric | but that doesn't seem to break anything |
| 01:17.56 | FRUCHT | yeah :P |
| 01:18.08 | FRUCHT | where can i access the old releases on the wowace site again? |
| 01:18.16 | Kurax | Prat just update like less than 1 hour ago |
| 01:18.18 | kenlyric | they hide them so you can't find them |
| 01:18.35 | FRUCHT | Kurax, i updated like 10 minutes ago and then again 5 minutes ago :P |
| 01:18.48 | Yssaril | i got the lua/xml files i want the texture files :) |
| 01:19.06 | Nandini | the texture files get extracted too, Blizzard Interface Art (enUS) or similar |
| 01:19.33 | sylvanaar | FRUCHT if you said what version you are running I missed it |
| 01:19.38 | NivFreak | kenlyric: yea, I have that same error |
| 01:19.54 | FRUCHT | 65571.1 |
| 01:20.11 | Yssaril | Nandini, that part dosnt seam to work on vista /cry |
| 01:20.21 | Yssaril | it just locks up |
| 01:20.25 | Nandini | it's probably in your virtual store |
| 01:20.33 | Yssaril | ??? |
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| 01:21.04 | FRUCHT | so i just installed Prat-r63303.zip and it's working like a charm :P |
| 01:21.08 | Nandini | hmm wait, i think vista considers the extractor to be an installer and add files under \program files |
| 01:21.25 | Nandini | so maybe not in your virtual store |
| 01:21.42 | Yssaril | nm now it started after saying not responding for a minute+ |
| 01:22.07 | Yssaril | anyways now for a blp to tga converter any ideas? |
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| 01:22.28 | Nandini | use blpconverter |
| 01:22.46 | Nandini | to convert to an from png, unless you're enamored with separate alpha channels in TGA |
| 01:22.51 | FRUCHT | oh, and what's GEM? |
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| 01:23.10 | FRUCHT | it's a really stupid acronym to google |
| 01:23.34 | Yssaril | <--- really like tga alpha channels |
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| 01:23.55 | NeoTron | is there really a reason to use BLP over TGA? |
| 01:24.12 | Nandini | if you are creating model textures, it includes mipmaps |
| 01:24.15 | watchoutX | is it patchday now btw? |
| 01:24.38 | sb | we dont know |
| 01:24.43 | NeoTron | if it is patchday this week it's tomorrow, not today |
| 01:24.56 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r65586 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 01:24.56 | CIA-9 | Skinner: |
| 01:24.56 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update. |
| 01:24.58 | NeoTron | Nandini: ah right. |
| 01:25.04 | Nandini | since interface textures don't use mipmaps, you might as well use a RLE-compressed TGA file especially since you get full 8-bit alpha |
| 01:25.15 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r65587 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ZOMGBuffs: Reagent reminder will work for single cast spells now too (Water Walking etc on Shaman), suffixed on existing info line. |
| 01:25.18 | watchoutX | ah whats the timezone in US? |
| 01:25.26 | watchoutX | I always mix that up |
| 01:25.28 | Nandini | we have 6 of them, take your pick :P |
| 01:25.36 | NeoTron | PST (west coast) it's 18:25 PM |
| 01:25.37 | Arrowmaster | more than 6 |
| 01:25.41 | Zeksie | they're funny... can't make their minds up |
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| 01:25.42 | watchoutX | well wich one does blizz use |
| 01:25.50 | kenlyric | not funny, big |
| 01:25.54 | Nandini | bliz uses GMT+8 |
| 01:25.54 | NeoTron | s/PM// |
| 01:26.02 | NeoTron | and Blizz = PST |
| 01:26.04 | kenlyric | not our fault our country isn't tiny like those pissant ones in europe |
| 01:26.22 | Zeksie | yes, but you all base your time around ours, worldwide :p |
| 01:26.28 | Kurax | 9:26AM here |
| 01:26.36 | kenlyric | it's -7 now |
| 01:26.48 | Nandini | true, we started daylight savings time here already (summer time) |
| 01:27.18 | watchoutX | -7 sounds more like it :) |
| 01:27.21 | kenlyric | i like how air conditioning costs completely invalidate DST |
| 01:27.39 | watchoutX | +8 would be japanese timezone or something |
| 01:27.40 | Arrowmaster | more than just airconditioning costs |
| 01:27.43 | Ellipsis | [6:23:26 pm] <NeoTron> is there really a reason to use BLP over TGA? <<certain situations require it, there are a few api funcs that only allow blp and not tga |
| 01:28.06 | Nandini | Ellipsis: Which functions? |
| 01:28.10 | Kurax | +8 is here, China timezone |
| 01:28.10 | Arrowmaster | its been proven now that DST costs way more than it saves |
| 01:28.15 | watchoutX | wanted to ask that too :D |
| 01:28.20 | Ellipsis | cursor textures, and minimap masks iirc |
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| 01:28.36 | Nandini | minimap masks can use TGA, cursors can only use BLP, correct |
| 01:28.38 | Ellipsis | maybe more, those are just the ones I've run into |
| 01:28.40 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar * r65588 10Prat/Prat_Modules/extras/Presets.lua: Prat: Colorize the presets menu so more ppl will see it |
| 01:28.46 | Zeksie | i tend to convert them out of habit |
| 01:29.14 | Zeksie | smaller if nothing else |
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| 01:32.20 | Nandini | for many types of interface textures, an RLE-compressed TGA file will be smaller than the DXT compressed BLP file |
| 01:32.29 | Nandini | especially if the BLP file contains mipmaps |
| 01:32.33 | Yssaril | so back to my question any easy way of getting blp into tga ? |
| 01:32.48 | Nandini | make it into a PNG and then save it as a TGA after editing it |
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| 01:33.08 | Yssaril | wreaks havoc with the alpha though in my experiance |
| 01:33.23 | Nandini | only if you can't select layer transparency in photoshop and make an alpha channel from it |
| 01:33.44 | Nandini | trust me, blpconverter is the way to go, xnview also works |
| 01:34.13 | Nandini | blpconverter works with more combinations of BLP compression tho |
| 01:35.21 | Nandini | and you'll probably want to recreate you alpha channel in your edited file anyways, since it's dxt3 or dxt5 compressed usually in the source blp |
| 01:35.22 | Pkekyo| | so how many hours 'till you yanks know if it's patchday or not? |
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| 01:35.51 | sb | 2-3? |
| 01:36.07 | Nandini | Pkekyo|: we won't know until the realms go down for maintenance and a few hours after that a new background downloader is available |
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| 01:36.25 | Nandini | or, until blizz leaks it to someone here. :P |
| 01:36.40 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65589 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua: BigWigs_VashjFFA: try make phase 3 ML work |
| 01:36.46 | Pkekyo| | they didn't go down yet? |
| 01:36.46 | Pkekyo| | damnit |
| 01:36.54 | Nandini | not for another 10 hours or so |
| 01:37.11 | Pkekyo| | bollocks |
| 01:37.13 | Nandini | so in 12 hours we should probably know whether it's patch day or not |
| 01:37.45 | Nandini | or, the alert message might say it's just rolling restarts, in which case we'll know it's NOT patch day |
| 01:38.40 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 01:38.51 | watchoutX | I vote for not =) |
| 01:38.52 | NivFreak | does that bigwigs addon auto-FFA for you? |
| 01:38.56 | Nandini | i'm pretty sure that as a courtesy (and to allow for bandwidth planning) blizz informs the major addon sites and swears them to absolute secrecy as soon as they have decided on a patch day |
| 01:39.06 | Nandini | if not, they definitely should |
| 01:39.12 | watchoutX | hehe |
| 01:39.45 | Funkeh` | NivFreak, maybe... ;p |
| 01:40.23 | sylvanaar | see yall later |
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| 01:43.25 | NivFreak | Funkeh`: heh, that's the idea though? |
| 01:43.35 | watchoutX | well ok, its GMT+2 here so byebye ;) |
| 01:43.41 | Funkeh` | yes, for vashj it will |
| 01:44.04 | xyu` | Hey anyone know why WAU would gray out update w/ externals? o_O |
| 01:44.19 | NivFreak | so it just "does the right thing" |
| 01:44.26 | NivFreak | goes to find it on wiki |
| 01:45.04 | NivFreak | "An external BigWigs addon that changes loot to Free-For-All when you engage Vashj." |
| 01:45.07 | NivFreak | hah |
| 01:45.57 | Arrowmaster | fucking 5% wipe on mag and then 2 rogues and 2 warriors take him to 2% through 2 blast novas |
| 01:46.07 | Zhinjio | Hey NivFreak |
| 01:46.20 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: hi :) |
| 01:46.58 | Arrowmaster | we fail at mag when we dont have enough people to attempt illidan |
| 01:47.08 | NivFreak | kinda sad |
| 01:47.15 | NivFreak | what's killing yoy? |
| 01:47.17 | NivFreak | you |
| 01:47.21 | Arrowmaster | blast nova |
| 01:47.26 | NivFreak | .. |
| 01:47.32 | NivFreak | not using OMA? :) |
| 01:47.53 | Arrowmaster | well first wipe was from half the raid dying to cave in at 30% |
| 01:48.18 | Arrowmaster | 2nd wipe from a blastnova because somebody couldnt click a cube due to fucking partical effects around it making it unclickable |
| 01:48.26 | NivFreak | haha |
| 01:48.38 | NivFreak | We had a hunter rez his pet instead of clicking... |
| 01:49.13 | Arrowmaster | 3rd just now was from clickers dying |
| 01:51.22 | xyu` | we're on phase 2 illidan :( |
| 01:51.27 | xyu` | tanks keep dying to nooblazer |
| 01:52.06 | Odlaw | tell someone to call out where the blue beam is coming from |
| 01:52.22 | Arrowmaster | yesterday we had tanks dying in phase2 |
| 01:52.26 | Odlaw | and if they still don't get out of the way.. replce 'em :) |
| 01:52.34 | Arrowmaster | but that was because he kept getting dazed for some damn reason when he was strafing |
| 01:52.48 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65590 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (8 files): BigWigs: Karazhan: esES update by geran |
| 01:53.30 | Arrowmaster | then he started bluescreening and couldnt log on |
| 01:54.07 | Odlaw | doh |
| 01:55.16 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65591 10BigWigs/SC/Hydross.lua: BigWigs: Fix double deDE start trigger |
| 01:56.59 | CIA-9 | 03ulic * r65592 10LittleWigs/ (27 files in 6 dirs): |
| 01:56.59 | CIA-9 | LittleWigs: |
| 01:56.59 | CIA-9 | - All bosses updated for 2.4 |
| 01:56.59 | CIA-9 | - Shouldn't cause any error messages for 2.3 or 2.4 |
| 01:56.59 | CIA-9 | - Definitely needs testing for old bosses, heroic & normal |
| 01:57.00 | CIA-9 | - Added Charge bars for Capacitus heroic(2.4 only) |
| 01:57.02 | CIA-9 | - Can someone with access please update the .bat & .sh files for MagistersTerrace? |
| 01:57.46 | Funkeh` | sure |
| 01:58.00 | ulic | hehe, I was just about to do a /me points at Funkeh` :P |
| 01:58.16 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 01:58.36 | Pkekyo| | points at UR MUM |
| 01:58.59 | sb | well nevcairiel - i guess you win :p |
| 01:59.18 | sb | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5539953968&sid=1 |
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| 01:59.54 | Funkeh` | still doesn't mean this week!1onw |
| 01:59.57 | rubik | uh oh.. does that confirm 2.4 tomorrow or can there be a week in between? |
| 02:00.02 | sb | both :p |
| 02:00.04 | Funkeh` | althought probabl is |
| 02:00.08 | rubik | haha.. sweet |
| 02:00.23 | Funkeh` | sb, wheres my melee module |
| 02:00.28 | sb | i know :p and i need some sleep now |
| 02:00.31 | sb | arrr, yes :) |
| 02:00.52 | sb | i think i can do that tomorrow (+ config changes for caster + healer) |
| 02:01.04 | sb | (tomorrow = in ~9h) |
| 02:01.26 | Nandini | i always start over on patch days and install addons one at a time, i always seem to clear out 10-15 addons or old libraries i don't need when i do that |
| 02:02.16 | sb | Funkeh`: but melee needs some more stats :/ |
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| 02:02.34 | sb | (r)ap, hit, crit, haste, armor ignore |
| 02:02.47 | Nandini | expertise! |
| 02:03.27 | sylvanaar | hey, when I embed LSM-3.0, do I have to embed CBH and LibStub myself? |
| 02:03.34 | Funkeh` | should be fine sb |
| 02:03.46 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar, yeah |
| 02:03.50 | Zeksie | i had to sylvanaar yeah |
| 02:03.58 | sylvanaar | godammit |
| 02:04.08 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar, just don't opdep/x-embed them |
| 02:04.43 | Yssaril | can i savely assume that GetStringWidth() ignores formatting data like color and correctly calculates embedded t0,00extures? |
| 02:04.50 | sylvanaar | why doesnt LSM-3.0's lib.xml just reference them |
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| 02:05.21 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar, that would potentially mean loading libstub 5 times / addon instead of once |
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| 02:06.14 | sylvanaar | regrets using lsm-3.0 |
| 02:06.32 | Shinwei | did prat break again? |
| 02:10.04 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar * r65593 10Prat/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Prat: Revert to LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 02:10.31 | CIA-9 | 03quezacolt * r65594 10Checklist2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:10.31 | CIA-9 | Checklist2: |
| 02:10.31 | CIA-9 | - Collected all strings that should be translated and put them in the locale files. Not yet translated. |
| 02:10.31 | CIA-9 | - Updated TOC number to 20400 |
| 02:13.03 | Nandini | here's something i didn't even notice while testing on the PTR |
| 02:13.12 | Nandini | "Non-corporeal Undead and Mechanical creatures are now susceptible to bleed effects." |
| 02:13.22 | Nandini | what exactly is non-corporeal? |
| 02:13.31 | sylvanaar | no body? |
| 02:13.31 | keiss | ghosts ? :) |
| 02:13.35 | doc^blup | ghosts |
| 02:13.53 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: why revert to LSM-2.0? |
| 02:13.53 | keiss | ghosts bleeding now ... strange things happening |
| 02:13.53 | sylvanaar | ghosts that bleed |
| 02:14.05 | Zeksie | robots too.. |
| 02:14.18 | Zeksie | hydraulic fluid maybe |
| 02:14.33 | Nandini | well, since some undead and mechanicals (esp. bosses) bleed already, this is a welcome change for me as a druid tank if the rest do too now |
| 02:14.51 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster LSM-3.0 has been a disaster, which LibStub and which CallbackHandler am I supposed to embed? |
| 02:15.07 | Arrowmaster | embed the libstub from tags |
| 02:15.17 | Arrowmaster | and the callbackhandler from ace3 trunk |
| 02:16.26 | Antiarc | How is LSM-3.0 a disaster exactly? |
| 02:16.44 | Arrowmaster | the dir is just weird |
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| 02:16.55 | Zeksie | is a bit awkward that as a lib it has it's own unique dependancies that need to be catered for, i think he means |
| 02:16.59 | sylvanaar | I'll let other people work out the kinks |
| 02:17.12 | Guillotine | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5464368078&sid=1 <-- Someone please bump ^_^ |
| 02:17.13 | Antiarc | Lots of libs have dependencies :P |
| 02:17.22 | Arrowmaster | since it has hardcopies that get included when you use externals but the hardcopies arent used by the lib.xml |
| 02:17.57 | sylvanaar | well, the dependencies are both in non-standard locations |
| 02:18.04 | Antiarc | You mean callbackhandler and libstub? |
| 02:18.07 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 02:18.12 | Antiarc | I've been arguing against that directory structure for a while :P |
| 02:18.19 | Antiarc | I'll talk to Elkano about it again. |
| 02:18.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah get it changed |
| 02:18.30 | Antiarc | I've tried :P |
| 02:18.44 | Arrowmaster | needs another LibSharedMedia-3.0 dir |
| 02:18.49 | Arrowmaster | or no hardcopies of libs |
| 02:18.52 | Arrowmaster | just change it |
| 02:19.02 | Antiarc | Hardcopies of CBH and LibStub are fine. They aren't intended to be external'd |
| 02:19.17 | Antiarc | But, I agree that the xml/lua should be in an external-able subdir |
| 02:19.30 | Antiarc | I hardly think that qualifies it as a disaster, though |
| 02:19.50 | sylvanaar | it was for me - because I didn;t know about it |
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| 02:20.21 | Chompers | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/download_6188262.html |
| 02:20.22 | Arrowmaster | just move them to a new dir and leave an extra lib.xml for backcompat with a comment in it not to use it |
| 02:21.08 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65595 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: also activate when mousing over a ghoul |
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| 02:22.31 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 02:22.37 | NivFreak | time for me to learn about hyjal |
| 02:22.46 | NivFreak | is it even possible without a prot pally? |
| 02:22.57 | xyu` | yes it is |
| 02:23.01 | xyu` | we did it one night w/o one |
| 02:23.04 | xyu` | it's just not as ez mode |
| 02:23.27 | Chompers | i'd say it's incredibly hard without oune |
| 02:23.31 | Chompers | *one |
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| 02:23.41 | Arrowmaster | weve never done it with a prot pally |
| 02:23.47 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: how do you do it? |
| 02:23.57 | NivFreak | seems like a good day to find out :) |
| 02:24.00 | Arrowmaster | with warriors and druids? |
| 02:24.19 | NivFreak | I don't even have vials, so I'm not 100% sure what the challenges are without one :P |
| 02:27.52 | sylvanaar | ok nn again... |
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| 02:29.48 | Zeksie | NivFreak, just need the AE to wait a bit before jumping in, and go slower. Is a bit more dodgy, and you'll tend to lose a few alone the way, but they can run in during the waves. |
| 02:29.58 | Kurax | The doors to the 2.4 Public Test Realm and Tournament Test Realm are now closing. |
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| 02:30.59 | Kurax | So no doubt it's coming live eh? |
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| 02:31.23 | Zeksie | well. wouldn't be the first time the ptr has been down for more than a few days before patching comes. but it's looking more likely |
| 02:32.25 | Chaud | Why is the gamespot patch 900mb |
| 02:32.46 | Kurax | It's a full patch |
| 02:32.48 | xyu` | to place gamespot ads on all the mobs |
| 02:32.49 | Zeksie | it's 2.0 -> 2.4 i think |
| 02:33.12 | xyu` | let's go to kill buy1get1free ! |
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| 02:37.07 | Primer | How is it I'm seeing lua errors in Interface\FramXML\PVPFrame.lua:255 |
| 02:37.09 | Primer | ? |
| 02:37.14 | Primer | Isn't that a built in one? |
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| 02:40.24 | Primer | I'm guessing it's something being set in WTF/Account/Me/etc... |
| 02:41.17 | Arrowmaster | whats the error? |
| 02:41.24 | Arrowmaster | it all depends on what the error is |
| 02:42.04 | Primer | How is it I'm seeing lua errors in Interface\FramXML\PVPFrame.lua:255 |
| 02:42.08 | Primer | </repeat> |
| 02:42.12 | Primer | a nil value |
| 02:42.17 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r65596 10/branches/GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:42.17 | CIA-9 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 02:42.17 | CIA-9 | - initial commit. |
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| 02:43.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah what value is nil? |
| 02:44.38 | ckknight | nil is nil |
| 02:45.23 | keiss | i think he means what variable is nil in the error msg ? |
| 02:47.20 | CIA-9 | 03kergoth * r65597 10AHDND/AHDNDLocalization.frFR.lua: AHDND: Fix syntax error introduced by the frFR translation bits. |
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| 02:50.46 | Primer | uhm...yeah |
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| 02:59.40 | xyu` | can you not battleres in illidan p2? |
| 02:59.48 | xyu` | we keep getting meleed as soon as BR goes off |
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| 03:00.05 | keiss | bressing in p2 sounds risky :) |
| 03:00.07 | Zeksie | don't do that |
| 03:00.17 | keiss | wait for p3 start imo |
| 03:00.28 | xyu` | ok |
| 03:00.30 | Zeksie | the 2 swords are like totems. the pulse and give you an invisible buff saying to the elementals "Don't charge me" |
| 03:00.40 | Zeksie | but if you BR between pulses.. u die |
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| 03:02.20 | NeoTron | yeah no BR in phase 2 |
| 03:02.42 | NeoTron | that's also why totems used to be a bad idea |
| 03:03.35 | Zeksie | nite.. 3am again. gotta stop doing that :) |
| 03:03.37 | Zeksie | is away -( sleep )- at 03:03a -( P:On / L:On )- |
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| 03:03.45 | xyu` | is p2 the hardesT? |
| 03:03.53 | NeoTron | yes |
| 03:03.54 | keiss | thinks so |
| 03:04.05 | doc^blup | but only for your 2 tanks |
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| 03:04.20 | NeoTron | demon phase can be a bit bad if you're unlucky with the demons and phase 5 you need good control of the adds |
| 03:04.43 | NeoTron | we killed him very shortly after making it paste phase 2 |
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| 03:10.37 | xyu` | bah tank died to beam...again >_< |
| 03:10.44 | xyu` | here we go again! |
| 03:11.13 | NeoTron | yes it happens. a lot |
| 03:11.24 | NeoTron | trying to train a new tank on Illidan => yuck |
| 03:11.55 | Yssaril | is there any event that fires if a unit goes into/outof combat? |
| 03:12.12 | keiss | REGEN_DISABLE ? something like that |
| 03:12.46 | Yssaril | am looking to do it for my target not myself (if thats possible) |
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| 03:13.33 | Zyndrome | I'll see Illidan when WotLK comes out , cause my guild has the skills of a pug in 25-mans |
| 03:13.35 | Zyndrome | ;_; |
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| 03:15.13 | keiss | event for a different target entering combat , dont think so (PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED / ENABLED for you) |
| 03:15.37 | Yssaril | i guess that will have to do |
| 03:17.30 | NeoTron | Recount scans the raid to see if ppl are in combat |
| 03:17.31 | NeoTron | I think |
| 03:18.59 | keiss | UnitAffectingCombat i guess , but he asked for an event |
| 03:19.27 | NeoTron | yeah but I don't think there is |
| 03:19.38 | keiss | exactly |
| 03:19.58 | NeoTron | I suppose in 2.4 you can check for combat log events affecting ppl in the raid/party |
| 03:20.16 | NeoTron | but it's probably easier just to poll |
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| 03:21.07 | NeoTron | kind of a bummer |
| 03:21.37 | NeoTron | if you do /target Unit Name it does't rotate between targets if there's more than one Unit Name |
| 03:22.07 | keiss | umm ... if you do a clear target after that ? |
| 03:22.15 | keiss | target -> clear -> target ? |
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| 03:23.07 | NeoTron | wtf |
| 03:23.10 | CIA-9 | 03zuno * r65598 10UnitActionBars2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:23.10 | CIA-9 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 03:23.10 | CIA-9 | - Updated to handle per-character macros. |
| 03:23.10 | CIA-9 | - Fixed access to image in UnitActionBars2 instead of UnitActionBars |
| 03:23.16 | NeoTron | now I get a taint problem when I try to /target something manually |
| 03:23.20 | NeoTron | grr |
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| 03:24.18 | NeoTron | kind of random |
| 03:24.55 | keiss | i know that some guildmates use that on teron to target/shoot the constructs with the macro , which have the same name |
| 03:25.05 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65599 10Cartographer/ (15 files in 15 dirs): Cartographer: toc bumpage, per ck |
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| 03:25.54 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65600 10Chinchilla/Chinchilla.toc: Chinchilla: toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:25.57 | Killmore | so, 2.4 is tommorow |
| 03:26.01 | NeoTron | wow |
| 03:26.09 | NeoTron | so it fails if I try to do /target Thistle Lasher only |
| 03:26.15 | NeoTron | I can target any other mob, friendly or not |
| 03:26.30 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65601 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: FuBar: toc bumpage, per ck |
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| 03:28.00 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: did you press tab while typing? |
| 03:28.20 | NeoTron | no all I do is /target Thistle Lasher |
| 03:28.30 | NeoTron | while /target Grizzled Brown Bear works |
| 03:28.35 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 03:28.39 | NeoTron | and /target <friendly npc> works |
| 03:28.47 | kenlyric | draenei, delete char now |
| 03:28.55 | NeoTron | kenlyric: my dev char :P |
| 03:29.23 | NeoTron | 3 days 2 hrs played, level 13 |
| 03:30.12 | NeoTron | so is 2.4 actuallt guaranteed for tomorrow or just highly likely? (noting the .toc version bump) |
| 03:30.31 | CIA-9 | 03cwdg * r65602 10HealPoints/ (HealPoints.toc localization.lua localization_cn.lua): |
| 03:30.31 | CIA-9 | HealPoints: |
| 03:30.31 | CIA-9 | add zhCN localization |
| 03:30.40 | kenlyric | it's a secret to everyone |
| 03:30.51 | NeoTron | I haven't seen it announced |
| 03:30.55 | kenlyric | don't go without this |
| 03:31.14 | Arrowmaster | people in av are saying its confirmed for tomorrow but like i trust them |
| 03:31.38 | NeoTron | there are no blue posts |
| 03:31.40 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65603 10FuBar_AmmoFu/FuBar_AmmoFu.toc: |
| 03:31.40 | CIA-9 | FuBar_AmmoFu: |
| 03:31.40 | CIA-9 | - toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:31.42 | NeoTron | so alas |
| 03:31.44 | QuantumDelta | mmo champ sorta flew off the handle |
| 03:31.47 | NeoTron | ck seems pretty sure though :P |
| 03:31.59 | QuantumDelta | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 03:32.31 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65604 10FuBar_ClockFu/FuBar_ClockFu.toc: FuBar_ClockFu: toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:32.39 | NeoTron | yeah but that's just a likely assumption more so than a confirmation |
| 03:33.00 | dylanm | It's Bibi. |
| 03:33.46 | Bibi` | Bibi is a retard |
| 03:33.49 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65605 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc: FuBar_DurabilityFu: toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:34.02 | NeoTron | Bibi`: I agree! |
| 03:34.12 | Ellipsis | totally |
| 03:34.23 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65606 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc: |
| 03:34.23 | CIA-9 | FuBar_ExperienceFu: |
| 03:34.23 | CIA-9 | -toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:34.25 | NeoTron | Bibi`: good thing you're not Bibi but Bibi` |
| 03:34.32 | Bibi` | yup, definitely |
| 03:34.38 | Bibi` | [R] RETR WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-2.4.0.8089-enUS-patch.exe |
| 03:34.38 | Bibi` | [R] 150-Accepted data connection |
| 03:34.38 | Bibi` | [R] 150 267520.5 kbytes to download |
| 03:34.40 | Bibi` | woops. |
| 03:34.49 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07kemayo * r65607 10LibQuixote-2.0/ (9 files in 2 dirs): LibQuixote-2.0: Rearrange directory. |
| 03:34.54 | NeoTron | hax0rz |
| 03:35.00 | chiper | grits his teeth at the great mod break of 2.4 |
| 03:35.15 | NeoTron | chiper: frankly... anything important is already ported |
| 03:35.20 | NeoTron | and not that much stuff broke anyway |
| 03:35.23 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65608 10FuBar_HonorFu/FuBar_HonorFu.toc: |
| 03:35.23 | CIA-9 | FuBar_HonorFu: |
| 03:35.23 | CIA-9 | -toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:35.31 | chiper | on the ace side, sure |
| 03:35.36 | QuantumDelta | only combat log related things |
| 03:35.36 | chiper | but not all my addons are ace |
| 03:35.37 | kd3 | meh... I'm as ready as I'll ever be. got a beer in the fridge and my 2.4 thread is stickied so it can be safely ignored by the masses |
| 03:35.48 | kd3 | s/beer/case of beer/ |
| 03:35.57 | NeoTron | I'm just happy to bea ble to rip out 2.3 hax from MagicMarker |
| 03:36.05 | NeoTron | and enjoy the leetness of the 2.4 version |
| 03:36.09 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65609 10FuBar_LocationFu/FuBar_LocationFu.toc: FuBar_LocationFu: toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:36.27 | NeoTron | especially the auto-detection of what CC methods work on mobs and the super accurate removal of deadm mobs |
| 03:36.36 | NeoTron | and of course marking multiple same-named mobs ithout any delay |
| 03:36.49 | Seerah | sorry for the spam :) I forgot how to do multiple commits at once until the mods were already checked out and the changes already made >< |
| 03:36.51 | Odlaw | :) |
| 03:37.08 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65610 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/FuBar_MicroMenuFu.toc: |
| 03:37.08 | CIA-9 | FuBar_MicroMenuFu: |
| 03:37.08 | CIA-9 | -toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:37.41 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65611 10FuTextures/FuTextures.toc: FuTextures: toc bumpage, per ck |
| 03:37.50 | Seerah | that was the last one for now :) |
| 03:38.54 | Xinhuan | woo i'm back |
| 03:38.56 | Xinhuan | did you miss me? |
| 03:39.00 | Seerah | YES! |
| 03:39.17 | Xinhuan | i'll also upload Routes to wowi later if patch is tonight ;p |
| 03:39.29 | Obelixprime | can anyone recommend a good inspect mod? |
| 03:39.48 | Xinhuan | Examiner is a popular one |
| 03:39.54 | Xinhuan | SpyGlass is less complicated |
| 03:40.13 | Obelixprime | How so? |
| 03:41.01 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65612 10LibQuixote-2.0/ (11 files in 2 dirs): LibQuixote-2.0: Merge -r 64390:HEAD |
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| 03:43.36 | Xinhuan | well just go try examiner first ;p |
| 03:44.31 | Obelixprime | I think I had examiner first |
| 03:50.46 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07kemayo * r65613 10LibSimpleFrame-1.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs): LibSimpleFrame-1.0: Adjust directory structure. |
| 03:53.09 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65614 10LibSimpleFrame-1.0/: LibSimpleFrame-1.0: Trunkify. |
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| 03:54.13 | mytos | anyone know for sure if 2.4 is out tommorrow? |
| 03:54.30 | Seerah | it's tomorrow |
| 03:54.39 | mytos | for sure? |
| 03:55.02 | Seerah | Funkeh' owes me a cookie for it |
| 03:55.32 | Seerah | *ahem* Funkeh'' |
| 03:59.18 | CIA-9 | 03zuno * r65615 10UnitActionBars2/UnitActionBars2.toc: |
| 03:59.18 | CIA-9 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 03:59.18 | CIA-9 | - Updated X-embeds to reference LibDogTag-2.0 instead of DogTag-1.0 |
| 04:00.56 | kd3 | the serveralert's a pretty good indication... http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 04:00.59 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07Ace3 * r65616 10BetterQuest/ (. embeds.xml): BetterQuest: Add all externals. |
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| 04:02.43 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65617 10BetterQuest/ (9 files in 2 dirs): BetterQuest: Trunk. |
| 04:04.04 | QuantumDelta | kd3 doesnt that confirm it aint today..? :P |
| 04:04.45 | kenlyric | 3:00 am used to always mean a patch, but they've been taking them down at 3am on non patch days recently. |
| 04:05.01 | kenlyric | but with everything else... |
| 04:05.12 | QuantumDelta | well they normally mention that it's because of the patch |
| 04:05.14 | Xinhuan | well lets see, 2.4 on gamespot, ptr servers down, 3-11am 8 hour maintenances, we just had a big easter break |
| 04:05.22 | Xinhuan | how many more clues do you need? |
| 04:05.27 | QuantumDelta | That said I've been totting 2.4 for today for a week ;P |
| 04:05.28 | kenlyric | they never mention the patch |
| 04:05.35 | Kemayo | It being tomorrow is definitely the odds-on favorite. |
| 04:05.36 | kenlyric | ever never |
| 04:05.42 | QuantumDelta | EU ones *always* do |
| 04:05.44 | Yssaril | so i am testing something (pvp status change) and i was waiting for me to deflag but i forgot to turn of pvp /cry |
| 04:05.44 | QuantumDelta | like 100% :< |
| 04:05.48 | kenlyric | us ones never do |
| 04:05.55 | QuantumDelta | how odd |
| 04:06.20 | kenlyric | it's so if they change their minds... :) |
| 04:06.31 | kenlyric | by the time EU comes around, it's absolutely certain |
| 04:06.49 | kd3 | or the servers catch fire while applying the patch... or something otherwise horrendous happens |
| 04:06.55 | NeoTron | I'll release MM sometime after 2.4 goes out |
| 04:07.01 | NeoTron | later this week if it comes tomorrow |
| 04:07.05 | NeoTron | to wowi etc |
| 04:07.11 | NeoTron | get some real exposure |
| 04:08.16 | NeoTron | QuantumDelta: of course... eu patch always after us patch so not like it's a hard one to figure out :0 |
| 04:08.26 | QuantumDelta | ;/ |
| 04:08.54 | QuantumDelta | though |
| 04:09.05 | QuantumDelta | if my memory isn't completely failing me in my old age |
| 04:09.22 | QuantumDelta | There was one occasion where the US servers got patched and the EU ones didn't |
| 04:09.33 | QuantumDelta | I don't recall why but it was early vanilla wow |
| 04:09.42 | QuantumDelta | like, 1.3.X or so |
| 04:09.46 | mytos | it was 1.10 |
| 04:09.51 | QuantumDelta | oh |
| 04:09.52 | mytos | naxx |
| 04:09.59 | QuantumDelta | least someone remembres |
| 04:09.59 | QuantumDelta | xD |
| 04:10.07 | mytos | and half the usrealms didnt go up for like 3 days |
| 04:10.15 | QuantumDelta | lol :P |
| 04:10.42 | mytos | tichondrius us crashed once daily for two weeks after that patch |
| 04:10.49 | kenlyric | two weeks? |
| 04:10.53 | mytos | yep |
| 04:10.56 | NeoTron | they annoucned a patch in the US once |
| 04:11.19 | kenlyric | pretty sure kargath crashed until 1.12 |
| 04:11.27 | kenlyric | 1.11 was naxx, fyi |
| 04:11.46 | kenlyric | 1.10 was casual patch, purples from strat! |
| 04:11.57 | QuantumDelta | HONOURS |
| 04:11.59 | Antiarc | So |
| 04:12.04 | Antiarc | Our first [Shard of Azzinoth] |
| 04:12.07 | Antiarc | Went to a priest |
| 04:12.08 | mytos | all the major raiding guilds had made their raiders grind exhalted AD rep before the patch, so almost noone was killing the "scourge invasion" mobs and they had a glitch where the kept spawning |
| 04:12.15 | QuantumDelta | ;s Antiarc |
| 04:12.26 | Antiarc | Well, see, it's okay because nobody really wanted it :P |
| 04:12.30 | Antiarc | The proc makes it trash |
| 04:13.06 | QuantumDelta | ye its bad |
| 04:13.08 | QuantumDelta | lol :P |
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| 04:13.45 | mytos | wahts the proc again? |
| 04:14.10 | dylanm | A little ember thing appears and he is your bff |
| 04:14.14 | QuantumDelta | cc breaker and life taker of doom |
| 04:14.34 | Fisker- | our shard went to a mage i think |
| 04:14.43 | Fisker- | we never expected to reach kel'thuzard anyways |
| 04:17.40 | kd3 | our mage ended up with something like 25 shards before BC hit |
| 04:18.01 | Chaud | I went to see kel'thuzard sunday morning at 5am =D |
| 04:18.22 | Chaud | and lost the roll on the caster staff =\ |
| 04:18.30 | NeoTron | I quit raiding when my then-guild had 4-5 down in Naxx |
| 04:19.18 | Fisker- | so patch kd3 ? :O |
| 04:20.27 | Ellipsis | patches Fisker- |
| 04:20.38 | kd3 | afaik. unless something disastrous happens looks like I'll be winning $100 tomorrow |
| 04:20.57 | dylanm | What |
| 04:21.01 | Fisker- | i'm going to have sex with you |
| 04:21.16 | Fisker- | :O? |
| 04:21.20 | Fisker- | sunwell patch is 950MB? |
| 04:21.28 | Fisker- | poor people |
| 04:21.29 | dylanm | That's the full patch. |
| 04:21.30 | Civrock | That's the full patch from 2.0.0. |
| 04:21.33 | kd3 | that's the 2.0.0->2.4.0 patch. 2.3.3->2.4.0 is ~290 |
| 04:21.45 | Fisker- | aww |
| 04:22.12 | Fisker- | do want patch |
| 04:23.30 | NeoTron | ah well time for me and my 3 day played level 13 shaman to get some work done! |
| 04:24.02 | RaydenUni | how does rage generation work? |
| 04:24.12 | RaydenUni | when i attack i get how much rage? what is it based on? |
| 04:24.14 | Chaud | Very slowly |
| 04:24.49 | RaydenUni | but is it so much per hit? |
| 04:24.51 | RaydenUni | per dmg? |
| 04:24.58 | _Parnic | is 2.4 confirmed tomorrow or still just best guess? |
| 04:25.02 | RaydenUni | so much per hit * attack speed? |
| 04:25.09 | RaydenUni | do you get more with a faster or slower weapon? |
| 04:25.11 | RaydenUni | with 2 weapons? |
| 04:25.28 | Chaud | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Rage_generation |
| 04:26.30 | Fisker- | well extended maintanence _Parnic |
| 04:26.30 | Fisker- | also |
| 04:26.36 | Fisker- | gamespot released the patch early |
| 04:27.07 | RaydenUni | looks like weapon speed isn't too good |
| 04:27.11 | RaydenUni | so faster weapon is better |
| 04:27.46 | RaydenUni | why do warriors have so much more trouble with rage? |
| 04:27.48 | RaydenUni | than druids? |
| 04:28.09 | Ellipsis | druids don't have weapons |
| 04:28.31 | Yssaril | druids ahve fixed attack speeds (i think) |
| 04:28.36 | Chaud | druid haz mouth |
| 04:29.20 | RaydenUni | what does weapons have to do with it? |
| 04:29.28 | Ellipsis | weapons have speed and damage |
| 04:29.57 | dylanm | 250 |
| 04:30.03 | dylanm | Woops. |
| 04:30.56 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r65618 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc: FuBar_PerformanceFu: toc bumpage, per ck |
| 04:31.01 | RaydenUni | from the chart speed and dmg add rage |
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| 04:32.13 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r65619 10Skinner/Skinner.toc: |
| 04:32.13 | CIA-9 | Skinner: |
| 04:32.13 | CIA-9 | - Toc UTF8. |
| 04:32.40 | Fisker- | someone should find some kind of link to that server where blizzard stores their patches and find us a 2.4 patch link :o |
| 04:32.42 | Yssaril | RaydenUni, its dmg recived i think |
| 04:33.03 | RaydenUni | Rage is generated by successful autoattack swings ('white' damage) that damage an opponent. Special attacks ('yellow' damage) do not generate rage. |
| 04:33.04 | Antiarc | Woo, 4pc T6. |
| 04:33.08 | RaydenUni | R=(7.5d / c + fs) / 2 |
| 04:33.21 | dylanm | Antiarc: Hurray! |
| 04:33.23 | RaydenUni | Rage is generated whenever you receive damage from an opponent (not environmental damage). R=2.5d / c |
| 04:33.55 | Fisker- | cuts open Antiarc |
| 04:33.57 | Fisker- | bawww |
| 04:34.14 | Fisker- | kd3 |
| 04:34.19 | Fisker- | give me a "It's patch day" link |
| 04:34.44 | kd3 | My 2.4.0 "It's Patch Day!" sticky in the UI forum work? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5469238267&sid=1 |
| 04:35.05 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
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| 04:36.12 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 04:36.24 | Fisker- | Chompers >:( |
| 04:36.26 | Chompers | why are you not in bed, it's past your bedtime |
| 04:36.42 | Fisker- | yes |
| 04:36.49 | Fisker- | and it's past my get out of bedtime as well |
| 04:37.09 | Chompers | oh dear |
| 04:40.37 | Fisker- | anyways Chompers |
| 04:40.42 | Fisker- | we had sex with najentus |
| 04:40.47 | Fisker- | then we had sex with supremus |
| 04:40.49 | Ellipsis | pics? |
| 04:40.53 | Fisker- | then we were going to have sex with shade of akama |
| 04:40.59 | Fisker- | but then blizzard had sex with us |
| 04:41.09 | Ellipsis | did they put it in the wrong hole? |
| 04:41.14 | Chaud | rofl |
| 04:41.19 | Fisker- | most definitely |
| 04:41.26 | Fisker- | and we did not want them to proceed but they did anyways |
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| 04:42.03 | Chompers | shade is easy Fisker- |
| 04:42.08 | Fisker- | NO FUCKING SHIT |
| 04:42.10 | Chompers | it took about 3 minutes |
| 04:42.56 | Fisker- | we were just going over tactics and positions |
| 04:43.07 | Fisker- | and blizzard had sex with us |
| 04:43.25 | Chompers | they do that from time to time |
| 04:44.26 | Fisker- | anyways gonna kill him today |
| 04:44.51 | Fisker- | we must construct additional T6 though |
| 04:45.01 | Fisker- | so we'll also kill archimonde before they "fix" him |
| 04:45.33 | Chompers | not at archi yet |
| 04:45.40 | Chompers | everyone fails at azgalor too much |
| 04:45.51 | Fisker- | we almost got him with a crap team |
| 04:46.00 | Fisker- | but then the paladin decided to run around with the doomguards |
| 04:47.45 | RaydenUni | i keep forgetting i can't demoralizing shout in the middle of all the scarabs in ZF |
| 04:47.56 | kd3 | whee for aggroing the entire room |
| 04:48.03 | RaydenUni | did it twice today |
| 04:51.07 | NeoTron | I think Fisker- is sexually frustrated |
| 04:53.27 | CIA-9 | 03zuno * r65620 10UnitActionBars2/: |
| 04:53.27 | CIA-9 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 04:53.27 | CIA-9 | - Updated external LibDogTag-2.0 reference |
| 04:54.10 | CIA-9 | 03satrina * r65621 10SatrinaBuffFrame/ (4 files): |
| 04:54.10 | CIA-9 | SatrinaBuffFrame: |
| 04:54.10 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.10 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.10 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:54.24 | Fisker- | closes down WAU |
| 04:54.41 | Fisker- | probably shouldn't get all those 2.4 updates later today :P |
| 04:55.23 | CIA-9 | 03satrina * r65622 10SBFOptions/ (3 files): |
| 04:55.24 | CIA-9 | SBFOptions |
| 04:55.24 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.24 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:01.01 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3349796429&postId=33491253606&sid=1#9 |
| 05:01.01 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 05:03.08 | CIA-9 | 03satrina * r65623 10SBFOptions/SatrinaBuffFrameOptions.lua: |
| 05:03.08 | CIA-9 | SBFOptions |
| 05:03.08 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.53 | NeoTron | So |
| 05:04.17 | NeoTron | I have a few pieces of functionality I want to share between addons, specifically my logging code, some spell id => cc method lookup table etc |
| 05:04.45 | NeoTron | I can't decide if I should make something specific to my own addon ro try to make a LibSimpleLog type lib |
| 05:04.48 | CIA-9 | 03satrina * r65624 10SatrinaBuffFrame/SatrinaBuffFrame.lua: |
| 05:04.48 | CIA-9 | SatrinaBuffFrame: |
| 05:04.48 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.48 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.49 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 05:05.22 | Xinhuan | if u are unsure, alawys go with addon specific solutions |
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| 05:07.20 | NeoTron | yeah probably might as well.. then I can also put it all in one addon rather than split it up |
| 05:13.39 | kergoth | whats an appropiate tip for a gem cut? |
| 05:13.43 | WobWork | suggestions request: Xparky - Should I try to attach to frames like in v1, or just have them freeplaceable by mouse? |
| 05:14.30 | kergoth | i like the attaching myself.. .if you go just free placable, at least snap to common stuff |
| 05:14.30 | CIA-9 | 03cwdg * r65625 10HealPoints/localization_cn.lua: |
| 05:14.30 | CIA-9 | HealPoints: |
| 05:14.30 | CIA-9 | -update Item db for zhCN local |
| 05:14.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:14.45 | CIA-9 | 03zuno * r65626 10UnitActionBars2/: |
| 05:14.45 | CIA-9 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 05:14.45 | CIA-9 | - Updated external LibDogTag-2.0 reference |
| 05:14.48 | Sekkyo | So, any insight on what addons/libs are not ready and good candidates for turning off during progression tomorrow? |
| 05:14.49 | JJSheets | I agree with kergoth. |
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| 05:24.39 | WobWork | mmm frame snapping is horrific |
| 05:25.01 | JJSheets | lol |
| 05:25.22 | WobWork | just thinking about it makes me cringe. |
| 05:25.36 | WobWork | since you can rotate the bars along the cardinals |
| 05:25.41 | JJSheets | Me too, but I'm not programming XParky. :p |
| 05:26.09 | WobWork | hm |
| 05:26.39 | JJSheets | If you do sanp, make it snap only to the edges of the screen and FuBar style panels. |
| 05:26.41 | WobWork | I wonder if I can make it semi intelligent and snap it to the closest edge of whatever frame they select wherever the mousecursor is |
| 05:27.13 | Fisker- | wow |
| 05:27.29 | Fisker- | Blizzard claims that Glider breaches the DMCA because it copies its ram!1 |
| 05:27.46 | Fisker- | Clearly, Glider usersâ loading of WoW into RAM creates a copy for purposes of the Copyright Act. Mai Systems, 991 F.2d at 519 (âsince we find that the copy created in the RAM can be âperceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated,â we hold that the loading of software into the RAM creates a copy under the Copyright Act.â |
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| 05:27.59 | WobWork | wow |
| 05:28.05 | WobWork | that's... stretching |
| 05:28.28 | Fisker- | i hope they win though |
| 05:28.30 | MentalPower | granted, but its no different technologically speaking than copying over the network |
| 05:28.32 | Fisker- | less botters to worry about |
| 05:28.33 | Fisker- | baww |
| 05:28.45 | MentalPower | or to a flash drive |
| 05:28.53 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 05:28.59 | NivFreak | extended maint |
| 05:29.01 | NivFreak | looking good |
| 05:30.13 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r65627 10WeaponRebuff/ (WeaponRebuff.xml localization/WeaponRebuff-koKR.lua): |
| 05:30.13 | CIA-9 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 05:30.13 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:31.54 | MentalPower | Fisker-: link? |
| 05:32.09 | JJSheets | Your google fu is weak. |
| 05:32.25 | Fisker- | bah |
| 05:32.31 | Fisker- | i just closed the tab |
| 05:32.38 | JJSheets | google wow glider. |
| 05:32.43 | Fisker- | there it was |
| 05:32.44 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 05:32.46 | Fisker- | http://gameactivist.blogspot.com/2008/03/update-blizzard-vs-mdy.html |
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| 05:34.50 | NeoTron | if you have an embedded libstub library and do self:Something is self == lib or self == the addon that embedded lib? |
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| 05:36.28 | RaydenUni | i think wow should do away with odd levels < 60 |
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| 05:39.00 | NeoTron | actually dumb question nm :P |
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| 05:53.20 | WobWork | NeoTron: if it's embedded, it's part of your object |
| 05:53.23 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r65628 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.tw.lua TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua): |
| 05:53.23 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 05:53.23 | CIA-9 | - zhTW update for WoW 2.4 |
| 05:53.27 | WobWork | so the answer is "yes" |
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| 05:55.35 | MentalPower | Fisker, WobWork: Seems that the copying of stuff into RAM == (C) infringement has been settled before in more than one case |
| 05:55.40 | NeoTron | yeah I realized that |
| 05:55.50 | MentalPower | so precedent has been set already |
| 05:56.51 | Lukian | so google infringes copyright? :D |
| 05:57.37 | Antiarc | They've been sued over it many times. |
| 05:58.39 | MentalPower | Lukian: no because you can use a robots.txt file and google will obey it |
| 05:58.52 | MentalPower | ie not circumvent that protection |
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| 06:04.21 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r65629 10EavesDrop/ (16 files in 3 dirs): EavesDrop: 2.4 Commit |
| 06:05.11 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r65630 10Proximo/ (20 files in 3 dirs): Proximo: 2.4 Commit |
| 06:06.14 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r65631 10sct/ (25 files in 4 dirs): sct: 2.4 Commit |
| 06:06.14 | exor674 | 20400, right? |
| 06:07.08 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r65632 10sct_options/ (18 files in 2 dirs): sct_options: 2.4 Commit |
| 06:08.57 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r65634 10sctd/ (17 files in 2 dirs): sctd: 2.4 Commit |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r65635 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Button.lua: |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-9 | InfiniBar-2.0 - Added [castname] text sub, which returns the name of the spell or item that will be cast when the button is clicked. |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-9 | - Lots of preliminary code to support state change on Mind Control and other similar spells. |
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| 06:09.35 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r65636 10sctd_options/ (16 files in 2 dirs): sctd_options: 2.4 Commit |
| 06:09.47 | CIA-9 | 03anall * r65637 10FuBar_NetWorthFu/ (FuBar_NetWorthFu.toc NetWorthFu.lua NetWorthFu_enUS.lua): |
| 06:09.47 | CIA-9 | FuBar_NetWorthFu: |
| 06:09.47 | CIA-9 | Sorting, 2.4 changes |
| 06:11.09 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r65638 10Proximo2/: Proximo2: Deleting beta version |
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| 06:13.39 | CIA-9 | 03anall * r65639 10FuBar_EpicCountFu/FuBar_EpicCountFu.toc: FuBar_EpicCountFu: 2.4 (no changes, TOC bump only) |
| 06:16.51 | Xinhuan | umm premature 2.4 commits? |
| 06:17.03 | Ellipsis | srsly |
| 06:17.08 | Xinhuan | most people that choose to update between now and tonight would have broken addons |
| 06:17.30 | Xinhuan | such as SCT |
| 06:17.56 | Antiarc | We're talking about a 5-hour window. |
| 06:18.02 | JJSheets | Night ya'll. |
| 06:18.15 | Ellipsis | 0 hours is better than 5 imo |
| 06:18.28 | Antiarc | Certainly, but not everyone can be up till 3 AM |
| 06:18.34 | Antiarc | Or whenever. |
| 06:18.55 | Ellipsis | I volunteer to toc-bump any addons for anyone who can't be around during the maintenance tomorrow |
| 06:19.07 | RaydenUni | i need some good sayings to macro to my taunt |
| 06:19.22 | exor674 | mine are just TOC bumps, so won't break in 2.3 :P |
| 06:19.28 | Ellipsis | how won't they break? |
| 06:19.44 | Ellipsis | people who download addons with 2.4 tocs can't use them in 2.3 |
| 06:19.57 | Xinhuan | it will say Incompatible |
| 06:20.05 | Xinhuan | rather than out of date |
| 06:20.23 | Antiarc | 20400, yes? |
| 06:20.30 | Xinhuan | assumably |
| 06:20.42 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65640 10/branches/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.toc: Threat-2.0: TOC update |
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| 06:21.09 | Xinhuan | what a teaser Antiarc |
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| 06:21.21 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc 072.4 * r65641 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: TOC bump |
| 06:21.26 | Antiarc | I'll be moving it to trunk in a couple of hours :P |
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| 06:22.33 | Zhinjio | evenin' |
| 06:22.46 | Ellipsis | hay Zhinjio |
| 06:23.03 | Zhinjio | looks like 2.4 is gonna hit, eh? |
| 06:23.38 | Nandini | it certainly looks that way |
| 06:23.44 | Zhinjio | <3 Ellipsis |
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| 06:25.37 | kebinusan | pretty much the only addons that should 'break' are combat log related ones right? |
| 06:25.41 | exor674 | Xinhuan: are you sure? |
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| 06:26.06 | Xinhuan | think so, go try and confirm or something |
| 06:26.08 | Zhinjio | and anything that access primary game options |
| 06:26.09 | Ellipsis | that's the bulk of it kebinusan, anything that uses parser |
| 06:26.10 | exor674 | I just checked, and the two I Just bumped show up as out of date on my (2.3.whatever) client |
| 06:26.17 | exor674 | not incompat |
| 06:26.32 | Xinhuan | right |
| 06:26.46 | Nandini | that's the expected behavior |
| 06:26.47 | MentalPower | they show up as out of date |
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| 06:26.56 | exor674 | lol, you said above they'd show as Incompatable |
| 06:27.12 | Xinhuan | i'm wrong then ^^ |
| 06:27.16 | kebinusan | K, just making a list of things I should try and mirror locally for my guild tomorrow |
| 06:27.17 | Ellipsis | lies |
| 06:27.17 | exor674 | shouldn't it say "From the future" or something :D |
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| 06:27.50 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan is not wrong...he must have been abducted by aliens and replaced with this fake one |
| 06:28.47 | Xinhuan | there's going to be such a rush tonight to update to Omen2 |
| 06:28.56 | Xinhuan | is it bugfree yet Antiarc |
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| 06:29.06 | Antiarc | No software is bugfree |
| 06:29.13 | Xinhuan | i still see a couple of bug reports on the forums |
| 06:29.20 | Dranor | even life isn't |
| 06:33.45 | NeoTron | If addon A requires B is B going to always be loaded before B? |
| 06:34.16 | exor674 | before A you mean? |
| 06:34.28 | exor674 | I wonder what'd happen if A requires B and B requires A << |
| 06:35.01 | NeoTron | right |
| 06:35.20 | NeoTron | if I in A does: local B = B |
| 06:35.24 | NeoTron | is that guaranteed to work? |
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| 06:35.37 | NeoTron | My guess is yes |
| 06:37.16 | Ellipsis | if B is an addon or a disembedded lib, and you have a dependency or optdep set, B will be there |
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| 06:40.01 | NeoTron | it's an addon in RequiredDeps |
| 06:40.06 | NeoTron | so that'll be true |
| 06:40.40 | Ellipsis | then yeah, B is guaranteed to exist and be loaded before your addon |
| 06:42.23 | NeoTron | I just put out some communcation stuff in a separate addon |
| 06:42.54 | NeoTron | so I can listen in without duplicating code |
| 06:44.12 | kergoth | wonder if satrina's buff frames will get support for enemy stuff.. cause thatd be nifty |
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| 06:45.43 | Orionshock | so.... |
| 06:45.49 | Orionshock | 2.4 tonight eh? |
| 06:45.54 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 06:46.29 | Orionshock | hehe... it's what everyone is saying... so i figure i ask here see if their wrong :D |
| 06:48.50 | Ellipsis | because we are all blizzard employees who know exactly what's going to happen when? |
| 06:50.13 | Kurax | Hehe, are you sure blizz employees know that exactly? |
| 06:50.29 | Ellipsis | well some of them better |
| 06:50.53 | Ellipsis | be pretty impressive if they managed to roll out a patch without *anyone* knowing |
| 06:51.43 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r65642 10AtlasLoot/DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: |
| 06:51.43 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:51.43 | CIA-9 | - Bugfix |
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| 06:56.54 | exor674 | hhhhhhaha |
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| 06:57.12 | exor674 | Ellipsis: I now imagine one blizz employee getting blindfolded and spun around in a rom with 2 buttons |
| 06:57.22 | exor674 | "2.4 live now" and "2.4 live later" |
| 06:57.30 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65643 10MagicComm/ (. LibStub.lua MagicComm.lua MagicComm.toc embeds.xml): MagicComm: Initial import. Helper addon that lets you receive network messages from MagicMarker. |
| 06:59.08 | CIA-9 | teksLoot: 03tekkub 07master * rf29ab8090f 10teksLoot/teksLoot.lua: Add roll selection counts to roll buttons |
| 07:00.47 | Civrock | So uh... I guess grayhoof updated his addons to 2.4 already, making them incompatible with the current live build. >_> |
| 07:01.35 | durcyn | it's bloody 3 AM, what are you doing updating your addons? |
| 07:01.45 | Civrock | lol |
| 07:02.01 | Orionshock | only midnight here :D |
| 07:02.07 | Civrock | I like to keep my addons up to date, k? :P |
| 07:02.10 | Ellipsis | exor674: nah, I think they should put those two buttons in a box with a cat |
| 07:02.31 | exor674 | haha |
| 07:03.07 | Ellipsis | you don't know if the patch is (a)live or not until you open the box! |
| 07:03.31 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65644 10MagicComm/ (. MagicComm.lua): MagicComm: Added externals. |
| 07:03.38 | Civrock | Woah, I think your wit just hit me through my monitor! |
| 07:03.47 | Thrae | http://shygypsy.com/farm <-- see you next Tuesday. |
| 07:03.57 | Ellipsis | careful Civrock, if you're not careful you'll lose an eye that way |
| 07:04.07 | Civrock | ;) |
| 07:05.24 | durcyn | Orionshock: the only way to know is to try to log in after maintenance starts and see if you're fed a patch downloader |
| 07:05.43 | Orionshock | naa, generaly u got to wait bout an hour or 2 before that happens |
| 07:05.48 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65645 10MagicMarker/ (MagicMarker.lua MagicMarker.toc): MagicMarker: Added dependency on MagicComm for receiving and sending non-bulk network messages. |
| 07:05.50 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.52 | durcyn | "after maintenance starts" |
| 07:05.54 | Thrae | So, do we have patch 2.4 yet? |
| 07:06.06 | durcyn | Thrae: just the background stuff as of yet |
| 07:06.15 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: if you know that we won't know until then, why are you asking us? |
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| 07:06.37 | Thrae | Ah. WoWI already had "Compatible with 2.4", so just checking, as I haven't logged in...ohhh... |
| 07:06.54 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: ever been told the definition of crazy? |
| 07:06.54 | Orionshock | << -- that's me |
| 07:06.55 | Thrae | WoWLuaircBot: l us maelstrom thrae |
| 07:06.55 | WoWLuaircBot | Thrae: Thrae's last login date is listed as 05 March 2008 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ypmert ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ogsgw ]] |
| 07:06.55 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't call you "crazy" exactly |
| 07:07.03 | durcyn | neurotic. |
| 07:07.21 | Ellipsis | I would probably just go with "dumb" |
| 07:07.33 | Ellipsis | perhaps "idiotic" at times |
| 07:07.55 | Orionshock | &? |
| 07:08.12 | Orionshock | oh right.. that was considered a bad think iirc.. |
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| 07:08.33 | ZOAS | what's the "nothing but commit messages" channel? |
| 07:08.33 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r65646 10Proximo/locals/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 07:08.33 | CIA-9 | Proximo: |
| 07:08.33 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 07:08.35 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:08.43 | Ellipsis | #wowace-cia I think |
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| 07:14.03 | Zhinjio | omg |
| 07:14.09 | Zhinjio | something just occurred to me. |
| 07:14.32 | Zhinjio | has anyone been on the PTRs seen just how much can be into the "info" fields on the guild bank tabs? |
| 07:14.49 | Orionshock | anyone else think this is strange? On maintenance night nearly the entire guild logs in at 7:30 server time "expecting" to raid.... |
| 07:14.53 | Zhinjio | darnit, I missed Kaelten, too. |
| 07:15.14 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: what, offline commucation for guild addons? :P |
| 07:15.16 | Ellipsis | why would that be strange? |
| 07:15.21 | Zhinjio | YES!@ |
| 07:15.26 | Zhinjio | exactly |
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| 07:15.33 | Zhinjio | no more syncing problem! |
| 07:15.36 | Ellipsis | still requires you to check the bank |
| 07:15.39 | durcyn | Zhinjio: you mean like we've already done with player/officer notes and guild information tab? |
| 07:15.43 | durcyn | k. |
| 07:15.45 | Ellipsis | which most people probably don't do all that often |
| 07:15.46 | Zhinjio | not programmatically accessible. bah. |
| 07:16.08 | Zhinjio | durcyn: yup. |
| 07:16.23 | Zhinjio | still better than offline storage. |
| 07:16.34 | NeoTron | could use the guild bank info tab to store guild bank member balances |
| 07:16.41 | durcyn | oh, you're talking about making it visible through armory |
| 07:16.54 | Zhinjio | nah. |
| 07:17.27 | Zhinjio | for example, I could use it to store list information for my addon, so that it would not require syncing between players or with an external source |
| 07:18.16 | Zhinjio | durcyn: I did discuss with a friend of mine how many player's officer's notes would be needed to realistically make a "database"... but decided against it due to complexity and volatility. |
| 07:18.39 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: why not just use the guild info for that? |
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| 07:18.51 | Orionshock | granted i could see better uses for it |
| 07:18.56 | Zhinjio | right. |
| 07:19.06 | Zhinjio | my guild, at least, actually uses that. |
| 07:19.19 | Zhinjio | not that I see the value, but hey... I can't just force people to use that to use my addon |
| 07:19.56 | durcyn | back it up a tad.. what's the goal? |
| 07:20.29 | Orionshock | offline data storage |
| 07:20.51 | durcyn | i mean, in his specific instance, what is he trying to communicate |
| 07:21.02 | durcyn | because it sounds more like a distributed revision control problem |
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| 07:21.50 | Zhinjio | ultimately? the goal is having a database of storage for addons that is NOT tied to a player's SV file, and is universally accessible to all players in a guild. |
| 07:22.15 | Zhinjio | better yet, accessible with permissions control. |
| 07:22.20 | Zhinjio | (read/write access, etc) |
| 07:22.21 | Primer | !rating 1459 |
| 07:22.21 | Xinhuan | 1459 rating gives 334(5s), 294(3s) and 254(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 07:22.30 | durcyn | which doesn't exist. so. what do you wish to use said storage for? |
| 07:22.42 | durcyn | data for your dkp mod, i assume? |
| 07:23.44 | Zhinjio | I know it doesn't exist. But in the 2.4 notes, it indicates that each guild bank tab now has an info field associated with it that can be used for "whatever you wish". IF (and I realize this isn't currently the case) that were programmatically accessible without having to hit the GB, that would solve the problem. |
| 07:23.49 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 07:23.56 | Zhinjio | not dkp-based, but thats nitpicking. |
| 07:24.03 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65647 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 07:24.03 | CIA-9 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 07:24.03 | CIA-9 | -Remove some accidental globals. |
| 07:24.03 | CIA-9 | -Remove crayon. (Was almost entirely replaced by custom coloring stuff already.) |
| 07:24.03 | CIA-9 | -Bump ToC. |
| 07:24.35 | durcyn | because it seems to me that a p2p or git-like rcs db via sendaddonmessage would do the trick |
| 07:25.10 | durcyn | think of it as source control and it takes a different shape |
| 07:25.26 | Orionshock | if something dosn't have several authors then keeping version control is easy |
| 07:25.45 | durcyn | yes, so you use something like guild ranks to elect master nodes, or explicitly define an owner |
| 07:25.58 | durcyn | that's the problem that git solves, which is why i mentioned it ;) |
| 07:27.02 | durcyn | reimplimenting distributed revision control in-game sounds like a fun project too |
| 07:29.05 | omega | can you somehow load lua code from SVs? |
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| 07:29.15 | ZealotOnAStick | yes |
| 07:29.31 | omega | if so, you could create an "organic" addon that lived in the SVs of people, using said distributed revision system :p |
| 07:29.38 | Orionshock | omega: "It's Ugly" comes to mind |
| 07:29.39 | ZealotOnAStick | not really pretty, but they did it with RDX |
| 07:29.58 | ZealotOnAStick | (as the only example that immediately leaps to mind) |
| 07:29.58 | omega | Orionshock: it would be purely scientific of course |
| 07:30.08 | Zhinjio | man, mediawiki is just hellish easy to setup and get going anymore. |
| 07:30.12 | Orionshock | ya we've talked about it here |
| 07:30.15 | Zhinjio | last time I touched it it was ugly as hell. |
| 07:30.25 | Orionshock | "Wow Virus's living in SV Code" |
| 07:30.43 | durcyn | Orionshock: i'm in your addons, deleting all your items |
| 07:30.47 | Orionshock | ya |
| 07:31.00 | durcyn | well, green and below anyway |
| 07:31.11 | Kemayo | Then we just implement Eliza, grant it the ability to learn from conversations... and bam! |
| 07:31.23 | Orionshock | there is infact an entire addon that uses a encryption method within it'self for the addon, and then it decrypts and loadstrings() at the end of the file |
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| 07:31.36 | durcyn | Kemayo: it certainly would improve the readability of public channels. |
| 07:33.20 | Orionshock | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8214-CarboniteQuest.html |
| 07:34.53 | rubik | waht's the latest on yes/no 2.4 tomorrow anyone? i see "extended maintenance" notice when i log in but it says only from 3-11am which is regular maintenance window... no? |
| 07:35.23 | durcyn | the latest word is "wait". |
| 07:35.34 | rubik | fair enough |
| 07:36.03 | Ellipsis | people, how does your life change if you learn about the patch a few hours earlier than you would otherwise? you can't do anything about it anyway |
| 07:36.17 | Ellipsis | why not just be patient? |
| 07:36.29 | Zhinjio | it stops my brain from vibrating if I know. |
| 07:36.38 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 07:36.42 | Orionshock | ^^ same |
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| 07:37.00 | Zhinjio | its hard to sleep with that constant bzbzbzbzzbzbzbzz in your head. |
| 07:37.02 | rubik | oh, i agree.. was just wondering if there was any news in the last 4-5 hours that i've been away from my pc.. :P |
| 07:37.22 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: I think I know how you could put that vibrating brain to good use |
| 07:37.32 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: ping |
| 07:37.45 | Zhinjio | licks his lips. |
| 07:38.05 | Zhinjio | I'll be right over. |
| 07:38.25 | Ellipsis | ...I was of course referring to working on your addon |
| 07:38.34 | Zhinjio | oh. right. |
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| 07:38.37 | Zhinjio | (shit) |
| 07:38.39 | NeoTron | lots of bumped tocs |
| 07:38.41 | Ellipsis | what did you think I meant? o.O; |
| 07:38.47 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 07:38.49 | rubik | haha |
| 07:38.50 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 07:38.52 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 07:39.25 | Zhinjio | and... I am, as it turns out. |
| 07:39.40 | Zhinjio | since I only have a couple more hours with the servers up to do anything. |
| 07:39.50 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65648 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.toc: MagicMarker: Bumped toc. |
| 07:39.53 | Zhinjio | got the wiki setup for documentation this morning too. |
| 07:40.15 | Zhinjio | oh, good call. whats the new number? |
| 07:40.28 | NeoTron | 20400 |
| 07:40.31 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65649 10FuBar_MagicMarker/FuBar_MagicMarker.toc: FuBar_MagicMarker: Bumped toc. |
| 07:40.35 | Zhinjio | of course. |
| 07:40.38 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 07:40.39 | Zhinjio | thx |
| 07:41.24 | Zhinjio | I'm trying to think if it makes sense for someone besides the loot master to process a loot event. |
| 07:41.42 | Zhinjio | probably not. |
| 07:41.48 | NeoTron | well I didn't really get anything done on my new addon except setting up MagicComm |
| 07:41.52 | NeoTron | but that's ok |
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| 07:45.07 | james\ | is 2.4 on US as yet ? |
| 07:45.20 | Ellipsis | maintenance is not til tomorrow |
| 07:45.29 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r65650 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 07:45.29 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 07:45.29 | CIA-9 | - two heroic items added |
| 07:45.35 | james\ | isn't that a bit weird ? |
| 07:45.35 | Civrock | 2h 15m |
| 07:45.36 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r65651 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 07:45.36 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 07:45.36 | CIA-9 | - Sunwell update |
| 07:45.54 | james\ | US maintenance isn't ever on a Monday ? |
| 07:46.00 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r65652 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:46.00 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:46.00 | CIA-9 | - Added MT trash to the menu |
| 07:46.29 | Zhinjio | james\: no. tuesday early morning. |
| 07:46.36 | durcyn | 3AM PT every tuesday for the past three years... |
| 07:46.45 | james\ | oh |
| 07:46.53 | james\ | tomorrow is still tuesday for you |
| 07:47.02 | james\ | it's 7:51 am fs! |
| 07:47.19 | Ellipsis | well you did ask about the US |
| 07:47.20 | Ellipsis | so :) |
| 07:47.24 | durcyn | yes, but over here on plaet earth, we have these things we call time zones. |
| 07:47.28 | durcyn | perhaps you've heard of them? |
| 07:47.29 | durcyn | planet rather |
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| 07:48.15 | Ellipsis | wait a minute, you went on vacation to planet earth without me? |
| 07:48.19 | Ellipsis | frowns |
| 07:48.45 | durcyn | don't worry - they do everything exactly the same there. |
| 07:48.53 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65653 10BankStack/ (BankStack.toc config.lua core.lua fill.lua): BankStack: Remove various globals that shouldn't be. |
| 07:48.55 | Zhinjio | now I need to listen to _Still Alive_ for another couple hours. |
| 07:49.42 | Zhinjio | my baby is going to think this is a lullaby, I swear to god. |
| 07:51.08 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65654 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Remove errant global. |
| 07:52.03 | Primer | !rating 1510 |
| 07:52.03 | Xinhuan | 1510 rating gives 355(5s), 312(3s) and 269(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 07:55.28 | Zhinjio | Elkano! |
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| 07:58.00 | Elkano | hmm? |
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| 07:58.18 | Zhinjio | just saying hey |
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| 07:59.04 | Elkano | ah, k ^^ |
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| 08:03.55 | icemoon | !rating 1500 |
| 08:03.56 | Xinhuan | 1500 rating gives 344(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 08:06.59 | Shirik | !points 1500 |
| 08:07.00 | Xinhuan | 1500 arena points require 2963(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 08:07.12 | Shirik | wow, it's almost possible with 5v5 |
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| 08:09.22 | NivFreak | PUG'd doomwalker |
| 08:09.23 | NivFreak | cake |
| 08:09.31 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: pong |
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| 08:10.50 | Elsia | morning |
| 08:10.53 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: can you think of a realistic circumstance where someone who is NOT loot master would be SK master and processing a loot event? |
| 08:11.00 | Elsia | do we have patch? |
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| 08:11.13 | Zhinjio | Elsia: not yet |
| 08:11.30 | Elsia | k |
| 08:11.35 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: I'm thinking of just locking all that stuff down to only be usable for the LM |
| 08:11.38 | Zhinjio | er, ML |
| 08:11.54 | Xinhuan | you are fighting Vashj, which required loot to be on FFA, and forget to switch it back to ML in p3 |
| 08:12.26 | Zhinjio | harumph. |
| 08:12.33 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65655 10MagicComm/ (Logger.lua MagicComm.toc): MagicComm: Added embeddable logger. |
| 08:12.36 | Xinhuan | or the ML disconnects and loot becomes group loot |
| 08:12.38 | Zhinjio | true. |
| 08:12.51 | Zhinjio | I thought ML just got reassigned in that case |
| 08:12.59 | Xinhuan | well that just proves an example |
| 08:13.31 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 08:13.44 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65656 10MagicMarker/ (5 files): MagicMarker: Change to use embeddable logger from MagicComm. |
| 08:14.04 | Elkano | time to check the easter svn changes via log :/ see you in a couple of hours ;) |
| 08:15.13 | Zhinjio | I think its fairly safe to say that you at least need to be in a raid to turn that stuff on, though. |
| 08:15.23 | Zhinjio | I've never heard of someone using DKP systems for 5 mans |
| 08:15.31 | Zhinjio | that would be kinda silly. |
| 08:16.35 | Zhinjio | that also means I need to trigger for any looting event, if its not don'e as ML |
| 08:16.41 | Zhinjio | s/don'e/done |
| 08:16.54 | Zhinjio | harumph. |
| 08:16.58 | Zhinjio | ah well. so be it. |
| 08:17.54 | evl | fires up his John Deere |
| 08:17.59 | phyber | WKP in 5-mans. Whelp Kill Points. not quite dragon, you see. |
| 08:18.03 | evl | New faction grind hooooo |
| 08:18.17 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: I'm always skg master and ML |
| 08:18.44 | Zhinjio | I had one occasion where I was SK master, and dealt with the bidding, and the ML distributed the items after |
| 08:18.47 | NivFreak | hrmm, I doubt we'll get credit for doomwalker |
| 08:18.49 | NivFreak | sorta sad =/ |
| 08:18.51 | Zhinjio | but thats because her SK was borked for some reason. |
| 08:19.00 | Zhinjio | on her machine |
| 08:19.12 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: yea, I can see that happening, I'd like to get away from being ML |
| 08:19.18 | NivFreak | but maybe still handle the bidding |
| 08:19.21 | Zhinjio | *nod* |
| 08:19.25 | Zhinjio | its reasonable |
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| 08:26.29 | Zhinjio | does a player who joins a raid also get RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE? Or just the ones already in the raid. |
| 08:26.38 | Zhinjio | the player should get it too, I would think |
| 08:26.47 | Shirik | they both do, yes |
| 08:26.58 | Shirik | in fact when you join I believe you get it several times |
| 08:28.27 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:28.38 | Xinhuan | morning |
| 08:28.56 | [Ammo] | it's patch day? |
| 08:29.06 | [Ammo] | if so prepare for sluggish svn :) |
| 08:30.25 | Silviu- | Some say yes |
| 08:30.30 | Silviu- | And some already updated |
| 08:30.31 | Silviu- | :) |
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| 08:30.39 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 08:30.39 | CIA-9 | - Update zhCN & zhTW localizations |
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| 08:31.41 | Kurax | Patch or not |
| 08:31.45 | Kurax | ~8ball |
| 08:31.45 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Yes |
| 08:31.58 | Kurax | Ty |
| 08:32.39 | jy | thats a clear Yes |
| 08:33.07 | jy | wanna spam forums with path or not ? |
| 08:33.12 | jy | +c |
| 08:33.57 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r65659 10Steroids/Steroids.lua: Steroids: color the buff name better |
| 08:34.50 | Orionshock | no wiki page for GetSpellInfo() :( |
| 08:35.04 | Kurax | Check the list page |
| 08:35.06 | Orionshock | does that exclusively take only the spell ID? |
| 08:35.23 | Kurax | Usually when some API no detail page, should have something on the list |
| 08:35.48 | vithos | name, rank, icon, cost, isFunnel, powerType, castTime, minRange, maxRange = GetSpellInfo(spellId or spellName or spellLink) |
| 08:36.01 | vithos | from http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0/Consolidated_API_changes#Spell_Functions |
| 08:36.33 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r65660 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (sets.cn.lua sets.tw.lua): |
| 08:36.33 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 08:36.33 | CIA-9 | - Update zhCN & zhTW localizations |
| 08:36.57 | Orionshock | anyone know if it's locale independant? |
| 08:37.34 | Kurax | For spellId of course, for spell names, don't think so |
| 08:38.12 | Ellipsis | iirc, it only finds spell names if they're present in your spellbook |
| 08:38.58 | Orionshock | urg.. dosn't help too much... still have to maintain a list of localized tradeskill names.... |
| 08:39.00 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 08:39.41 | Ellipsis | how dare they expect you to write actual code |
| 08:39.56 | Silviu- | Cool, i updated and Eavsdrop is borked now ... what was in my head ? ;) i should have been waiting till tomorrow :) |
| 08:40.11 | Ellipsis | yeah, seriously :P |
| 08:40.11 | vithos | but you can get the name from the id |
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| 08:40.44 | Orionshock | true... |
| 08:41.14 | Elsia | if it's patch updating today for EU folks is a bad idea :P |
| 08:41.14 | Orionshock | i'll need to do alot of testing and festering with GetSpellInfo ect... |
| 08:41.30 | Orionshock | trying to get rid of as many localizations as i can :D |
| 08:41.47 | Silviu- | Elsia true :P ( eu ) :) |
| 08:42.16 | Ellipsis | festering? |
| 08:42.22 | Ellipsis | I don't think that word means what you think it means |
| 08:43.06 | Zhinjio | so if I want to ignore a bunch of the return values from a function call, I can just use a dummy variable in there... there's no inherent way to skip things like "...", right? |
| 08:43.13 | Zhinjio | "..." means *everything else* |
| 08:43.22 | Elsia | GetSpellInfo is a disease :D |
| 08:43.25 | Zhinjio | if I understand that right |
| 08:43.35 | nevcairiel | why a disease? |
| 08:43.39 | nevcairiel | its so useful! |
| 08:43.49 | Elsia | it can fester ;) |
| 08:44.00 | Kurax | So Babble-Spell is not dying |
| 08:44.46 | [Ammo] | it is for everything I use |
| 08:44.50 | [Ammo] | it's obsolete |
| 08:45.31 | Arrowmaster | theres no reason to keep babble-spell in 2.4 |
| 08:45.40 | Elsia | how do i svn move with tortoise svn? |
| 08:45.45 | mitch0 | hm. time to look at some new api docs for me |
| 08:45.48 | Kurax | right click |
| 08:45.55 | Kurax | and drag |
| 08:46.07 | nevcairiel | someone remind me to not run my svn update script today |
| 08:46.22 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: do not run your svn update script today |
| 08:46.24 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: dont run your svn update script today |
| 08:46.28 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 08:46.41 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel: ru your update script tomorrow |
| 08:46.45 | Xinhuan | run* |
| 08:47.02 | nevcairiel | i wonder how many addons really break for 2.3 today when branches merge |
| 08:47.06 | mitch0 | could someone provide a link about the GetSpellInfo() call? |
| 08:47.07 | Elsia | I don't get right click and drag, I need to tell it where in the repo to move to |
| 08:47.25 | Kurax | Use the browser then |
| 08:47.55 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: you can find it on http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.0/Consolidated_API_changes |
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| 08:49.23 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: some just won't work |
| 08:49.37 | Xinhuan | example: SCT |
| 08:49.37 | [Ammo] | which reminds me, need to figure out how to merge 2.4 witchhunt branch into trunk |
| 08:49.48 | Xinhuan | grayhoof updated sct to 2.4 already on trunk 4 hours ago |
| 08:49.51 | evl | merging with SVN is so fuuuun |
| 08:49.54 | [Ammo] | well I'd never use SCT anyway, grayhoof has original ideas, but he fails at coding |
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| 08:50.04 | Nathanyel | Parrot ftw |
| 08:50.05 | NivFreak | man, the hardest thing about doomwalker were his alliance "adds" |
| 08:50.06 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 08:50.13 | NivFreak | fucking druids kept cycloning me |
| 08:50.49 | Nathanyel | well at least Doomwalker is doable even with pvp :P |
| 08:51.05 | NivFreak | yea, no way I'm doing kazzak |
| 08:51.09 | evl | I see GrantLevel() is a nice way to level alts! |
| 08:51.09 | Silviu- | [Ammo] also Ace3 will be 'official" today ? since almost all addons "new" from 2.4 use them ? |
| 08:51.18 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: no |
| 08:51.30 | Arrowmaster | evl: its for the tournament realm |
| 08:51.36 | evl | Arrowmaster: ;) |
| 08:51.42 | NivFreak | I think if you had a raid ready to go in shatt, and you ninja'd your way in through the twisting nether, you could kill kazzak before anyone could fly to him |
| 08:51.45 | Ellipsis | they ended up deciding on no change to life tap, right? |
| 08:51.54 | Silviu- | Well, Omen2 using Ace3, Eavesdrop using Ace3, witchunt Ace3 |
| 08:51.55 | evl | In terms of Ace3, will addons stil use embeds or is disembedded the new pink sauce? |
| 08:51.56 | nevcairiel | right |
| 08:51.59 | Silviu- | this comes in my mind now :P |
| 08:52.12 | Arrowmaster | embeds |
| 08:52.13 | [Ammo] | so? |
| 08:53.06 | NivFreak | 1 hour and counting |
| 08:53.09 | Silviu- | well from my point of view if i was a good coder i would get all addons/libs ready for when 2.4 hits since some ppl ONLY update on big patches and rest they don`t :P |
| 08:53.13 | evl | Arrowmaster: how are newer versions of a lib like ace3 handled, say addon A, B, C loads but only C contains the newest version, will A and B use C's version when C is done loading? |
| 08:53.13 | nevcairiel | Silviu-: its been official beta for month |
| 08:53.25 | CIA-9 | 03eridan * r65661 10HealPoints/localization.lua: HealPoints: Fixed code broken by cwdg |
| 08:53.27 | Silviu- | beta yes, i was saying not beta :P |
| 08:53.32 | Arrowmaster | evl: yes |
| 08:53.38 | Ellipsis | evl: yes, that's exactly how embeds already work |
| 08:54.04 | Arrowmaster | evl: they have worked that way since the first embed stub was written a long as time ago |
| 08:54.06 | evl | But when A "new"'s with AceLibrary(blalbla) wont it have a reference to the old library anyway or is it just pointer swapping |
| 08:54.33 | Nargiddley | Silviu-, how will calling it not beta make any difference to what people download when they update for 2.4 ? |
| 08:54.59 | theoddone33 | I just discovered the ridiculous synergy of leveling discipline |
| 08:55.05 | Silviu- | I don`t care if is beta or not just stable, and as i said my point of view only :P |
| 08:55.13 | theoddone33 | improved divine spirit gives you dmg/heal from spirit |
| 08:55.18 | theoddone33 | spirit tap... doubles your spirit |
| 08:55.31 | Silviu- | I don`t have problems since i update every day, but some of my guild mates only update on patch day |
| 08:55.45 | Silviu- | and after day, complain all the time that addons don`t work blabla :p |
| 08:55.51 | Arrowmaster | your obviously not in a raiding guild then |
| 08:55.52 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 072.4 * r65662 10Talented/Talented/chat.lua: Talented: (2.4 branch) merge sylvanaar fix from trunk. |
| 08:56.01 | Nargiddley | and again, how does us declaring it 'stable' make any difference to the code they download ? |
| 08:56.09 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r65663 10/tags/Recount/: |
| 08:56.09 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 08:56.09 | CIA-9 | - Create path for tag. |
| 08:56.26 | Silviu- | And sometimes with outdated omen they caused us problems at some bosses since they don`t reset the threat in some situations :p |
| 08:56.30 | Arrowmaster | heads would be rolling if any of my guildies only updated on patch days |
| 08:56.31 | Ellipsis | I think he means that addons should have been taking 2.4 as their big chance to push framework conversions |
| 08:56.45 | Silviu- | Arrowmaster Bt Clear/Hyjal clear in 1 day makes a difference ? ;) |
| 08:56.47 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 07Pre-2.4 * r65664 10Recount/: |
| 08:56.47 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
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| 08:56.56 | mitch0 | [ammo]: thanks |
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| 08:57.26 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r65665 10Ace3/ (Ace3.toc changelog.txt split.bat): Ace3 - update changelog and .toc |
| 08:58.00 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 07Pre-2.4 * r65666 10Recount/: |
| 08:58.00 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 08:58.00 | CIA-9 | - Meh. |
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| 08:58.19 | Silviu- | nvm ... :) |
| 08:58.51 | Nandini | i don't see patch 2.4 as a good incentive to do a framework conversion, especially if you are making major architectural changes at the same time to support new API features (esp. combatlog) |
| 08:58.54 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 08:58.59 | NivFreak | outfitter is tainting |
| 08:59.02 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 07Pre-2.4 * r65667 10Recount/: |
| 08:59.02 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 08:59.02 | CIA-9 | - Tagged last stable pre-2.4 version. Bye parserlibs and thanks for the fish. |
| 08:59.22 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:59.22 | Ellipsis | yeah, doing your framework conversion on a major patch only makes sense if your addon isn't heavily affected by the changes in the patch |
| 08:59.23 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r65668 10WitchHunt/ (11 files in 3 dirs): WitchHunt: Merge 2.4 version to trunk |
| 08:59.45 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r65669 10Ace3/ (23 files in 8 dirs): |
| 08:59.45 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - (merge upto 64175) |
| 08:59.45 | CIA-9 | - big 2.4 AceGUI-3.0 style adjustment merge |
| 08:59.45 | CIA-9 | - see changelog.txt for all changes |
| 08:59.45 | NivFreak | hrm, WIM too |
| 08:59.47 | Nandini | might be best to stick with a framework you're comfortable with and change frameworks at a later, "safer" time. heheh |
| 08:59.49 | Ellipsis | although the 2.4 interface options and ace3 integration of those *could* be a good argument for doing it anyway |
| 09:00.03 | mitch0 | hm. GetSpellInfo() is indeed nice |
| 09:00.07 | [Ammo] | Ellipsis: definately |
| 09:00.31 | Nandini | i agree there, that's something players will be looking for now, and authors who missed the chance to get in on it now might get flak. LOL |
| 09:00.32 | nevcairiel | there we go, nice AceGUI design for 2.4 in trunk :) |
| 09:00.48 | [Ammo] | nice one nevc |
| 09:00.56 | mitch0 | time to convert RangeCheck/RangeDisplay to Ace3 |
| 09:01.09 | nevcairiel | i love the new design |
| 09:01.15 | nevcairiel | it finally doesnt look like shit anymore |
| 09:01.18 | nevcairiel | specially the tree |
| 09:01.29 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: you mean RangeDisplay, since you should be making RangeCheck framework independent |
| 09:01.48 | Elsia | would love to see rangecheck-2.0 libstubbed |
| 09:01.54 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 09:01.57 | Ellipsis | yeah, but rangecheck does need a rewrite and 2.4 conversion |
| 09:02.07 | mitch0 | arrow: yeah, I don't really know what else is needed for rangecheck. it used to use babble, but now it might be totally standalone |
| 09:02.15 | Ellipsis | it should be |
| 09:02.20 | Elsia | rangecheck doesn't use combatlog though |
| 09:02.23 | [Ammo] | time for some more coffee |
| 09:02.37 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: well rangecheck could sure as hell use a cleanup |
| 09:02.47 | Ellipsis | Elsia: it does use babble-spell which means it can now use spell IDs + getspellinfo |
| 09:02.51 | [Ammo] | isn't it obsolete with new blizz api? |
| 09:02.54 | Elsia | yep true dat |
| 09:03.00 | Elsia | no |
| 09:03.03 | Ellipsis | [Ammo]: not in the slightest |
| 09:03.05 | mitch0 | arrow: erm, it's pretty clean as it is, apart from the babble stuff, imo |
| 09:03.05 | Elsia | the blizz api is fixed range |
| 09:03.11 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: no its not |
| 09:03.17 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 09:03.21 | nevcairiel | blizz api uses 40y healing range, good enough for my range needs =P |
| 09:03.23 | Ellipsis | rangecheck needs some serious love |
| 09:03.38 | Elsia | not good enough for lock tanks at kael ;) |
| 09:03.40 | mitch0 | arrow: any specific pointers? |
| 09:04.00 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: table usage is ugly, thats a big one |
| 09:04.03 | mitch0 | (granted, I haven't looked into it for almost a year now) |
| 09:04.33 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt make tables for each class but instead check the class before creating the tables |
| 09:04.56 | mitch0 | arrow: you mean the "config" tables with the spell names? |
| 09:05.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 09:05.06 | mitch0 | that's pretty minor imo |
| 09:05.24 | Arrowmaster | well you check the class perty often from what i remember |
| 09:05.31 | mitch0 | you want to save something like 300 bytes of memory? |
| 09:05.44 | mitch0 | arrow: no, only at startup |
| 09:06.18 | mitch0 | and sometimes I have to "rebuild" the actual range-checking functions due to equipment or talent change, but I can't help that :( |
| 09:06.50 | mitch0 | the "config" tables are created exactly once (on load) |
| 09:07.13 | Elsia | it's easy to fix though.. do the UnitClass("player") before creating the table, put the table in an if for each class. it's a very minor memory safe mostly |
| 09:07.47 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r65670 10TooltipItemInfo/TooltipItemInfo.toc: TooltipItemInfo: in before the storm |
| 09:07.53 | mitch0 | elsia: yeah, but it makes the code less readable (not by much, but the memory save isn't much either) |
| 09:08.29 | Elsia | I'm fine with rangecheck in its current form really, but noone should ever look at lib code, except for the api documentation ;) so readability is for lib author only |
| 09:08.34 | mitch0 | gratuity is framework-independent nowadays, right? |
| 09:08.59 | [Ammo] | I use a smaller TinyGratuity solution in LockSmith and CrowBar |
| 09:09.06 | [Ammo] | thanks to tekkub :) |
| 09:09.21 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 09:09.22 | Ellipsis | erm, forgive me for the silly question, but why does a lib have options tables in the first place? it can't save settings |
| 09:09.29 | mitch0 | oh, but if GetSpellInfo() is actually better than I think it is, I might not need gratuity at all |
| 09:09.46 | Elsia | don't think you need gratuity tbh |
| 09:09.46 | mitch0 | does it return the _real_ ranges (after talent and equipment modifications)? |
| 09:09.58 | Tekkub | you should avoid tooltip scanning if you can |
| 09:10.05 | Tekkub | it's a nasty practice |
| 09:10.06 | mitch0 | tekkub: see above |
| 09:10.25 | Elsia | it should return real ranges, if not it's a bug ;) |
| 09:10.37 | Tekkub | tiny grat isn't even an embed lib really |
| 09:10.49 | Tekkub | it's just a small chunk of code you tweak to load for your addon |
| 09:10.55 | mitch0 | will check then, and kthxbye to gratuity if GetSpellInfo() does the right thing |
| 09:11.18 | mitch0 | too bad we lost Detect Magic :( |
| 09:11.21 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: on now i remember what i thought could be better, but i dont know how realistic it would be to have the lib do the repeated checks instead of each addon using the lib |
| 09:11.44 | mitch0 | repeated checks? |
| 09:12.01 | mitch0 | (the lib in fact does the re-calculations, not the users of the lib now) |
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| 09:12.11 | mitch0 | at least that's how I remember |
| 09:12.41 | Elsia | mitch0: he means that currently the addon gets to decide when to recheck range, but I actually like this solution |
| 09:12.43 | Arrowmaster | i mean you have the onupdate calling rc:getRange() in RangeDisplay right now |
| 09:12.58 | mitch0 | ah that |
| 09:13.04 | Elsia | lets the addon decide how frequently it needs range updates.. some may only need sparse updates |
| 09:13.12 | mitch0 | yeah, it's better like this |
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| 09:13.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah your right, i only look at these kinda things due to some of the blizzard api though |
| 09:14.23 | mitch0 | If I wanted to be extra accurate, RangeCheck could provide an event when the range changes "unexpectedly" (like equipment changes), but that's overkill for most uses (as they usually poll the range anyway) |
| 09:14.23 | Arrowmaster | its so silly having a couple different addons all calling some bliz function on a timer just to get an event with info to fire |
| 09:15.08 | Arrowmaster | refering to the guildlist/frindlist and other stuff |
| 09:16.24 | Elsia | very few addons will use rangecheck though... |
| 09:16.32 | Zhinjio | man, something is not working happily with UnitInRaid("player") |
| 09:16.49 | clad|office | don't use it? |
| 09:16.50 | mitch0 | can someone check GetSpellInfo() for me now? (I'd like to know if it returns actual spell ranges after talent modifications, or "default" ranges) |
| 09:16.56 | clad|office | use GetNumRaidMembers() > 0 |
| 09:17.11 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: UnitInRaid() doesnt return 1/nil, it returns an index |
| 09:17.22 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: cant, ptr down |
| 09:17.24 | Zhinjio | oh. |
| 09:17.31 | Zhinjio | that explains it. |
| 09:17.44 | mitch0 | ->: :( |
| 09:18.03 | sag_ich_nicht | FOR FUCKS SAKE |
| 09:18.11 | sag_ich_nicht | NOW I HAVE TO REVERT EVERYTHING BY ONE REVISION |
| 09:18.24 | mitch0 | that's not that hard (or shouldn't be) |
| 09:18.54 | sag_ich_nicht | 544 addons. |
| 09:19.26 | Ellipsis | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:19.26 | purl | sag_ich_nicht, you Fail! |
| 09:19.27 | mitch0 | heh ;) |
| 09:20.05 | Elsia | 544 addons? |
| 09:20.14 | sag_ich_nicht | well, folders in my addons folder |
| 09:20.18 | sag_ich_nicht | not all of them are activated |
| 09:20.23 | sag_ich_nicht | but most are |
| 09:20.26 | Grum | why would you revert? |
| 09:20.41 | Elsia | if he raids tonight he might :P |
| 09:20.43 | Ellipsis | he ran an update |
| 09:20.46 | Ellipsis | lots of toc bumps |
| 09:20.58 | Grum | that is just stupid sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:21.01 | Silviu- | toc bumps are not aproblem :P |
| 09:21.01 | Grum | you massively fail |
| 09:21.03 | Elsia | and addons that simply don't work for 2.3 but loads should |
| 09:21.05 | Grum | ~fail sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:21.06 | purl | sag_ich_nicht: FAIL! |
| 09:21.08 | Elsia | toc update sdon't break |
| 09:21.17 | Ellipsis | well there were at least a handful of addons that updated to their 2.4 versions as well |
| 09:21.20 | Elsia | i.e. only revert addons that broke |
| 09:21.21 | Ellipsis | for some reason |
| 09:21.23 | Zhinjio | ok, that worked. Thanks. |
| 09:21.30 | evl | At some point the SVN needs a spring cleaning, so much old unused shit lying around |
| 09:21.34 | theoddone33 | neat my WoW stopped working |
| 09:21.41 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 09:21.42 | Elkano | well, as long as they are no major TOC bumps like 1xxxx -> 2xxxx ;) |
| 09:21.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail NeoTron |
| 09:21.44 | purl | NeoTron, you Fail! |
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| 09:22.03 | Ellipsis | not everyone has "load out of date addons" on |
| 09:22.15 | Arrowmaster | yes they do |
| 09:22.18 | Ellipsis | I don't |
| 09:22.22 | Elkano | well, their fault :P |
| 09:22.28 | Nathanyel | true Elkano |
| 09:22.41 | Arrowmaster | you manually but the toc of addons you use that havent been updated? |
| 09:22.47 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 09:22.49 | Arrowmaster | s/but/bump/ |
| 09:22.51 | Ellipsis | since they aren't maintained as a rule |
| 09:22.52 | Arrowmaster | fail |
| 09:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | someone do me a favor and correct the MagicMarker externals, it's missing MagicComm |
| 09:22.58 | Nathanyel | half of my addons go red when I untick that, even though I update regularly, even the non-ace ones |
| 09:23.04 | Ellipsis | actually at the moment I have 0 addons which required manual bumps |
| 09:24.45 | Orionshock | ptr up? im thinking no... |
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| 09:25.29 | nevcairiel | nah they shut it down |
| 09:25.30 | papyros | os |
| 09:26.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 09:27.16 | Ellipsis | raeps sag_ich_nicht |
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| 09:27.30 | Nathanyel | uh-oh |
| 09:27.32 | Nathanyel | weird sign |
| 09:27.53 | Nathanyel | I better renew my subscription :B |
| 09:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | reverts Proximo |
| 09:30.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 09:30.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i bet something that i didn't notice atm breaks horribly while i'm raiding and causes a wipe |
| 09:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i blame all of you |
| 09:31.38 | CIA-9 | 03zhinjio * r65671 10/branches/SKG/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:31.38 | CIA-9 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 09:31.38 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.38 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.38 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:32.05 | Pheredhel | hmm, is 2.4 live? |
| 09:32.12 | Arrowmaster | not yet |
| 09:32.15 | Xinhuan | no |
| 09:32.17 | Zhinjio | ah, broke the 6000 line mark. |
| 09:32.20 | Xinhuan | not for at least 10 more hours |
| 09:32.20 | Zhinjio | gads. |
| 09:32.44 | Pheredhel | dunno, sitting in europe I have to wait till wed |
| 09:32.50 | Elkano | it sucks when you are killing mobs and suddenly a multiboxer shows up killing everything in 500yd+ around you :/ |
| 09:32.56 | Elsia | any hints on doing a clean merge if lots has changed? especially embeds etc |
| 09:33.06 | Jaxon | Elkano: sorry. |
| 09:33.25 | Ellipsis | Elkano: so multibox back :P |
| 09:33.54 | Pheredhel | hi Elkano white easter (bit late) to you |
| 09:33.56 | Jaxon | Elkano: if it helps any, the "Gather X of Something" quests are a complete pain in the ass and the quick killing rate makes it hard to continue doing quests in a single area without killing mobs 4-5 levels above you. Also, it is tedious. |
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| 09:34.46 | Ellipsis | if you're multiboxing "gather X items" quests, you're doing it wrong |
| 09:34.58 | mitch0 | erm, does GetSpellInfo() work with unlocalized spell names? |
| 09:35.06 | Jaxon | Right, except on those quest chains where you want the rewards. |
| 09:35.09 | Ellipsis | just get the ID |
| 09:35.11 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: use spellids |
| 09:35.13 | Orionshock | mitch0: unknown |
| 09:35.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: maybe he enjoys questing you insensitive clod |
| 09:35.33 | mitch0 | spellids are not static |
| 09:35.36 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: then he should enjoy it solo :P |
| 09:35.39 | Zyndrome | a guildmate is multiboxing 5 elem-shamans, he did gather-quests... and he complained about droprates often |
| 09:35.41 | Ellipsis | yes they are |
| 09:35.41 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: yes they are |
| 09:35.42 | mitch0 | and I can't just blindly check every spell |
| 09:35.48 | mitch0 | since when? |
| 09:35.51 | mitch0 | 2.4? |
| 09:35.52 | Arrowmaster | since always |
| 09:36.05 | Arrowmaster | what you think are spellids are not spellids |
| 09:36.05 | mitch0 | hm |
| 09:36.09 | Ellipsis | ids != indices |
| 09:36.17 | mitch0 | oh |
| 09:36.22 | Orionshock | .. SpellBook SpellID's are not the idea :D |
| 09:36.38 | mitch0 | I only knew about spellbook spellids |
| 09:36.55 | Elsia | check wowhead for spellids it's the number they use in their url for a spell |
| 09:37.10 | mitch0 | so there are some constants somewhere for spellids? or should I just find them out somehow and hardcode them |
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| 09:37.21 | Arrowmaster | hardcode them |
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| 09:37.37 | mitch0 | nice. then I really don't need babble-spell |
| 09:37.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 09:37.45 | Ellipsis | with a comment to remind you what they are :P |
| 09:37.45 | Snago | Hai gais |
| 09:37.47 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the fucking points. |
| 09:37.49 | Snago | Missed me? |
| 09:37.51 | Orionshock | & personally im still not going to be able to use GetSpellInfo much.. because tradeskills don't have a generic spell :( |
| 09:37.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Snago: no, gtfo |
| 09:38.02 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: yeah since babble-spell isn't getting updated for 2.4 |
| 09:38.12 | Arrowmaster | and we're lyncing whoever bumps the toc for it |
| 09:38.17 | Snago | :( |
| 09:38.26 | Orionshock | goes off to bump the toc |
| 09:38.35 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: you can at least stop parsing tooltips |
| 09:39.12 | sag_ich_nicht | if i had an SVN account |
| 09:39.16 | sag_ich_nicht | I'd bump the toc |
| 09:39.19 | sag_ich_nicht | just to piss Arrowmaster off |
| 09:39.30 | nevcairiel | good that you dont, then :P |
| 09:39.46 | sag_ich_nicht | then we'd have an awesome revert war until everyone knows that babble-spell=bad |
| 09:39.52 | Ellipsis | if I had a svn client, I wouldn't bump the toc, just to annoy sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:40.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: yeah but you don't have one |
| 09:40.22 | sag_ich_nicht | pwnt |
| 09:40.26 | nevcairiel | you dont need a svn client for not doing it! |
| 09:40.34 | nevcairiel | you can pwn sag_ich_nicht anytime |
| 09:40.36 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: true |
| 09:40.39 | Ellipsis | it means less if I don't do it because I can't |
| 09:40.45 | mitch0 | hm. why doesn't my tunnel to wowace svn work? |
| 09:40.57 | Ellipsis | cave-in? |
| 09:41.11 | sag_ich_nicht | facepalm |
| 09:41.16 | Ellipsis | licks sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:41.17 | nevcairiel | yeah probably cave-in or it got flooded |
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| 09:42.15 | mitch0 | hm. the tunnel is working, I just can't svn up thru it... strange |
| 09:44.53 | Zhinjio | there's the server announce. |
| 09:44.55 | Zhinjio | *sigh* |
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| 09:45.31 | nevcairiel | oh servers going down, time for their 2.4 announce then |
| 09:45.39 | Nathanyel | :P |
| 09:45.42 | vithos | fuck |
| 09:45.51 | vithos | we were trying to do every heroic |
| 09:45.53 | vithos | only 2 left |
| 09:46.06 | theoddone33 | is the patch tonight? |
| 09:46.11 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 09:46.14 | theoddone33 | ah lame |
| 09:46.39 | theoddone33 | they should say that stuff on the login screen |
| 09:46.47 | theoddone33 | but there was no mention |
| 09:46.52 | Tigerdyr | so 2.4 is arriving today for US? |
| 09:47.04 | theoddone33 | that's the rumor |
| 09:47.05 | Elsia | curse is pretty flooded too, can't do anything on it currently |
| 09:47.13 | nevcairiel | curse is always slow |
| 09:47.17 | nevcairiel | look at that page |
| 09:47.19 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 09:48.43 | Elsia | how does svn merge handle embed vars? |
| 09:48.57 | nevcairiel | it just copys them too |
| 09:48.59 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 09:49.02 | Elsia | hehe |
| 09:49.05 | Elsia | alright |
| 09:49.12 | nevcairiel | just merge and chekc the vars before commit :D |
| 09:49.12 | Elsia | puts hardhead on. |
| 09:49.29 | SunTsu | ~wau |
| 09:49.30 | purl | i heard wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
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| 09:51.11 | sag_ich_nicht | so anduinlothar |
| 09:51.19 | sag_ich_nicht | is cosmos ready for 2.4? :P |
| 09:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 09:51.28 | sag_ich_nicht | rong channel |
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| 09:53.12 | Zhinjio | god, I haven't heard about cosmos in a long time. |
| 09:53.14 | Elsia | yeah it copies the embed properties |
| 09:54.33 | Elkano | I found an old game magizine yesterday listing a few WoW addons ^^ hardly any is still around |
| 09:55.11 | Elsia | titan ;) |
| 09:55.16 | jy | guess : ctraid ? |
| 09:55.39 | nevcairiel | titan is still around |
| 09:55.42 | nevcairiel | amazingly |
| 09:56.05 | Elkano | well, most addons were killed by 2.0 ^^ |
| 09:56.20 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell * r65672 10/branches/RangeCheck-2.0/: branching for 2.4 update |
| 09:56.21 | jy | descursive ? |
| 09:56.24 | jy | -s |
| 09:56.29 | jy | ^^ |
| 09:56.35 | sag_ich_nicht | decursive still works |
| 09:56.36 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 09:56.39 | sag_ich_nicht | not the way it used to |
| 09:56.42 | sag_ich_nicht | but it still works! |
| 09:56.50 | mitch0 | decursive has a nasty habit of wiping my settings :( |
| 09:56.53 | Elkano | no, things like eg auto-potion |
| 09:58.00 | Grum | titanpanels ..kek! |
| 09:58.07 | Grum | i even used that one back in the day |
| 09:58.45 | Nathanyel | titan still is good :P |
| 09:59.01 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell * r65673 10/branches/RangeCheck-2.0/: wrong dest dir... |
| 09:59.03 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r65674 10Recount/ (34 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:59.03 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 09:59.03 | CIA-9 | - Committing 2.4 version to trunk (duck and cover!) |
| 09:59.48 | Nandini | well, the great wait begins. i'm betting closer to 11 hours instead of 8 |
| 09:59.49 | peragor | There are still people in my guild who use CTRaid and Titan |
| 10:00.40 | Nandini | i don't see why blizzard doesn't "underpromise and overdeliver" with maintenance times on patch days, i can't remember a single patch when servers were up in under 10 hours |
| 10:01.07 | peragor | No they were up, usually for 5 mins, and then go down again |
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| 10:01.18 | FecalFunPack | bites you |
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| 10:01.35 | Nathanyel | what did they promise? I have never seen a 2.4 estimate |
| 10:01.51 | Groktar | well, servers went down at 3 |
| 10:01.58 | jy | they promise the server to be back at 11h am |
| 10:02.02 | Groktar | usually 3am maintenance = patch |
| 10:02.04 | jy | they'll be back at 11pm |
| 10:02.20 | jy | wanna bet ? |
| 10:02.22 | Groktar | they didn't "promise" |
| 10:02.34 | Nandini | US servers just went down and are expected to be back up in 8 hours |
| 10:02.36 | Srosh | "Never play on patch day." Always been true, always will be true. |
| 10:02.50 | Aiiane_ | The corollary being "never raid on patch day" |
| 10:03.10 | jy | never update your addons on a patch day |
| 10:03.11 | mitch0 | hrmp. my svn mkdir doesn't complete |
| 10:03.12 | Groktar | i wouldn't mind if the servers are completely jacked up until the weekend |
| 10:03.13 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 07RangeCheck-2.0 * r65675 10RangeCheck/: making room |
| 10:03.17 | Aiiane_ | heh jy |
| 10:03.18 | mitch0 | ah, here it is |
| 10:03.20 | Ellipsis | how about "don't move a muscle on patch day" |
| 10:03.24 | Ellipsis | just have some patience :P |
| 10:03.27 | Aiiane_ | that's why im pre-updating now |
| 10:03.31 | jy | ^^ |
| 10:03.32 | Aiiane_ | and then ill grab others as necessary |
| 10:03.32 | Groktar | because i can only raid sat/sun |
| 10:03.46 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 07RangeCheck-2.0 * r65676 10RangeCheck/2.4/: branching for 2.4 update |
| 10:03.50 | jy | i still have to play with working config tonigh :p |
| 10:04.15 | Aiiane_ | servers just went down for me |
| 10:04.22 | Aiiane_ | so im free to screw around with configs :P |
| 10:04.27 | jy | ^^ |
| 10:04.47 | jy | i wonder how much will queldanas lag |
| 10:05.03 | jy | i need shard of contempt badly :> |
| 10:05.34 | Nandini | it will be bad i'm sure |
| 10:05.44 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 072.4 * r65677 10RangeDisplay/: branching for 2.4 update |
| 10:06.27 | jy | its already estimated as 2nd best melee trinket |
| 10:06.33 | Nandini | this is the first new content they've added (since tbc) where 50% of your server's population will be expected to be in one small zone for the next week or so |
| 10:06.43 | Zyndrome | patch 2.4 is confirmed |
| 10:06.49 | jy | :D |
| 10:06.50 | Zyndrome | awesome |
| 10:07.06 | vithos | better than DST/sliver/madness? |
| 10:07.15 | Groktar | sliver? |
| 10:07.23 | Arrowmaster | he said 2nd best |
| 10:07.26 | jy | better than dragonspine et tsunami |
| 10:07.36 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 10:07.41 | Arrowmaster | you make no sense now |
| 10:07.50 | Arrowmaster | you say 2nd best but say better than dragonspine |
| 10:07.53 | vithos | i don't remember the whole name, something about a sliver. it's a new sunwell trinket |
| 10:07.57 | jy | actually expertise is twice as valuable as hit |
| 10:08.02 | jy | maybe third then |
| 10:08.03 | Nathanyel | naaru silver? |
| 10:08.04 | Orionshock | eh well, guess i get to keep LibGratuity even after 2.4... but not for the same reasons :D |
| 10:08.08 | vithos | yeah naaru sliver |
| 10:08.23 | Ellipsis | ...what |
| 10:08.24 | jy | for enh chaman expertise is even more valuable |
| 10:08.43 | Nathanyel | they can't spec +hit, right? |
| 10:08.49 | Arrowmaster | they can |
| 10:08.57 | Arrowmaster | they get more +hit from spec than any other class afaik |
| 10:09.05 | Groktar | why should it be more valuable for an enhancement shaman? |
| 10:09.07 | jy | expertise apply to your yellow AND white hits |
| 10:09.21 | Nandini | feral druids cannot spec +hit, but we only count as using a 2h weapon with our paws, so we don't need that much anyways |
| 10:09.30 | jy | enh sham = 50% white, and rest if wf most |
| 10:09.36 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r65678 10Steroids/ (Steroids.toc libs/ libs.xml): Steroids: add libs |
| 10:09.39 | evl | Zyndrome: where? |
| 10:09.42 | Arrowmaster | expertise is only good for enchance shaman because blizzard doesnt put it on any enchance shaman gear |
| 10:09.50 | Zyndrome | evl : hold on, uploading pic |
| 10:09.51 | jy | or talent |
| 10:10.08 | Groktar | warriors are about 50% white, druids are about 30% white jy |
| 10:10.09 | Groktar | :D |
| 10:10.21 | jy | ^^ |
| 10:10.24 | Megalon | Shard of Contempt discussion? :x |
| 10:10.31 | Nandini | if i have an enh shammy in my group, i've gotten down to 26% white on one fight |
| 10:10.34 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r65679 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Bartender4: use [bonusbar:x] instead of [stance:x], simplifies detection logic of stances, no more skipped aquatic form shit =P |
| 10:10.41 | Zyndrome | http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/omgnews.jpg , shows for everyone who start up their game |
| 10:10.42 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 07RangeCheck-2.0 * r65680 10RangeCheck/2.4/ (4 files in 3 dirs): renaming stuff |
| 10:10.52 | Groktar | are you a druid Nandini? |
| 10:11.26 | Nandini | yes i am |
| 10:11.29 | Grum | Zyndrome: awww you have been blessed with a tinyweeniee? |
| 10:11.48 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 10:11.48 | mitch0 | what is 2.4's interface version? |
| 10:11.52 | mitch0 | ~toc |
| 10:11.53 | purl | the current WoW Interface Number is : 20300 |
| 10:11.53 | Nandini | 20400 |
| 10:11.57 | mitch0 | thanks |
| 10:12.01 | Zyndrome | I can't show my real accountname ofc, and I just can't leave it empty :p |
| 10:12.08 | Ellipsis | why can't you show your account name? |
| 10:12.17 | Elsia | ~fail purl |
| 10:12.18 | purl | purl: FAIL! |
| 10:12.28 | Ellipsis | is it sekritz? |
| 10:12.31 | TE|kulaar | what does the addon Steroids do? |
| 10:12.40 | Nathanyel | I dunno about shard of contempt for ferals... the expertise isn't _that_ useful, and the AP bonus is... sub-hourglass, though it lasts 20sec, hmm... |
| 10:12.40 | TE|kulaar | didnt find smth about it |
| 10:12.43 | Nandini | can't enh shammies get +6% hit from talents when dual wielding? |
| 10:12.45 | Zyndrome | yeah it's "4llahakbar" but I can't let people know that can I ? |
| 10:12.46 | Zyndrome | oopsies |
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| 10:12.59 | jy | Nandini: 9% |
| 10:13.10 | mitch0 | what's the "standard" way of using LibStub for an embeddable lib? |
| 10:13.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:12] <Nathanyel> I dunno about shard of contempt for ferals... the expertise isn't _that_ useful <--wow you're dumb |
| 10:13.15 | sag_ich_nicht | please kill yourself |
| 10:13.16 | Funkeh` | is U.S. getting 2.4 patched right now? |
| 10:13.23 | Nathanyel | though I kept crystalforged a long time because of the low cooldown, for many buffed Rips |
| 10:13.23 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 10:13.27 | jy | and succeeding white hit doesnt gives you rage or energy |
| 10:13.35 | mitch0 | should I link it as external, or should I just copy the current LibStub ? |
| 10:13.36 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: what do you mean? |
| 10:13.42 | Arrowmaster | oh copy |
| 10:13.48 | sag_ich_nicht | mitch0: copy |
| 10:13.51 | mitch0 | kk |
| 10:13.52 | Arrowmaster | www.wowwiki.com/LibStub |
| 10:13.59 | Funkeh` | yo? |
| 10:14.05 | sag_ich_nicht | even i know that |
| 10:14.06 | mitch0 | it's still hosted at wowace, right? |
| 10:14.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 10:14.13 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 10:14.17 | sag_ich_nicht | don't set it as external. |
| 10:14.20 | sag_ich_nicht | copy it. |
| 10:15.33 | Ellipsis | rawr, bedtime |
| 10:15.38 | Elsia | nite elli |
| 10:16.06 | Ellipsis | night y'all (and sag_ich_nicht: I'm going to dream about you and your sexy trolling) |
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| 10:16.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: nice troll |
| 10:16.31 | Nathanyel | sag_ich_nicht: ferals, like assa rogues, never needed that much hit, as missed hits aren't that bad, except for a slight time lose |
| 10:16.42 | sag_ich_nicht | wow you're dumb |
| 10:16.45 | mitch0 | ok, reading the info now. rangecheck can't be meaningfully loaded as standalone, so I shouldn't even include it in my source, right? |
| 10:16.45 | sag_ich_nicht | seriously |
| 10:16.49 | sag_ich_nicht | kill yourself Nathanyel |
| 10:17.02 | Nathanyel | what a wonderful argumentation |
| 10:17.05 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 10:17.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 10:17.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not going to argue with you because it's pointless, so i'll just tell you to kill yourself :) |
| 10:17.40 | CIA-9 | 03orionshock * r65681 10GuildCraft/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:17.40 | CIA-9 | GuildCraft: |
| 10:17.40 | CIA-9 | -Break addon for 2.4 |
| 10:17.40 | CIA-9 | -Use GetSpellInfo in the one useful place. |
| 10:17.40 | CIA-9 | -Get Rid of BabbleTradeSkill & associated libs. |
| 10:17.41 | CIA-9 | -Implement BabbleTradeskill translations locally, probably won't work... |
| 10:17.46 | mitch0 | erm, no. "standalone loading" in that context means something else |
| 10:17.47 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.20 | Roblibob | +hit is most valuable stat until cap me thinks. |
| 10:18.27 | Nathanyel | w00t Orionshock :P |
| 10:18.27 | Nandini | it is easy to reach an acceptable amount of +hit as a feral druid, and it's worth doing, since missed finishers do not give any energy back |
| 10:18.59 | Nathanyel | the only used finisher in raids, especially after 2.4, is Rip, costing only 30 energy |
| 10:19.02 | sb_ | yay |
| 10:19.03 | sb_ | 2.4 |
| 10:19.03 | sb_ | <3 |
| 10:19.15 | Nathanyel | bleeding robots ftw :P |
| 10:19.27 | sb_ | and finally its 100% now ;p |
| 10:19.28 | Nandini | 30 energy means up to 4 more seconds waiting to apply that rip tho |
| 10:19.35 | sb_ | (well, 99% :p) |
| 10:19.43 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 07RangeCheck-2.0 * r65682 10RangeCheck/2.4/ (3 files in 2 dirs): more renaming |
| 10:19.58 | Nandini | so you just lost 33% of your rip's tick time |
| 10:20.01 | kebinusan | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/WoW-2.3.3-to-2.4.0-enUS-Win-patch.torrent |
| 10:20.32 | Nathanyel | well I might stack some hit instead of crit now, as my cycles often go to 5CP too early, but I will never prefer hit over crit |
| 10:20.43 | sb_ | Bibi: http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert - go, update your site! :P |
| 10:21.13 | kebinusan | I hate that eu gets notices like that |
| 10:21.18 | kebinusan | and the us gets just, extended maint. |
| 10:21.32 | Groktar | gives jy the aids |
| 10:21.52 | Nathanyel | goddammit |
| 10:22.07 | Nathanyel | have to dress and get downtown to get a damn gametime card :P |
| 10:22.56 | Nandini | even with 125 hit rating and 18 expertise rating, hit rating is still valued 10% higher than crit rating in this model with my current gear |
| 10:23.11 | Nandini | of course, crit (and AP) from agility is still better than either |
| 10:23.23 | *** join/#wowace papyros (n=madlener@iss63.vlsi.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 10:23.34 | Nathanyel | oh of course |
| 10:23.37 | Nathanyel | I meant agi > hit |
| 10:23.42 | Nathanyel | not crit *slow* |
| 10:24.35 | Nathanyel | I happily prefer hit over raw crit :P |
| 10:24.44 | Nathanyel | is still a tad sleepy |
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| 10:26.18 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r65683 10CombatFilter/: CombatFilter: merge to trunk |
| 10:26.56 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc 072.3 * r65684 10Omen/: Created folder remotely |
| 10:28.16 | Elsia | lol recount zip on files gone from 641k to 318k |
| 10:28.35 | Nandini | yay bye bye parser! |
| 10:28.51 | Elsia | yep and bye babble for the most part |
| 10:28.52 | kebinusan | Dont need babblespell any more either right? |
| 10:29.09 | *** join/#wowace Zariel (n=Chris@host86-137-29-63.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:29.19 | Elsia | still using bs-class for the config gui, no other babble though |
| 10:30.37 | Pkekyo| | holy fuckin ghell...SPAS 15 is insane O.o |
| 10:30.39 | Nandini | hooray for no more farming stupid elemental earth for elemental sharpening stones for my druid paws! |
| 10:30.40 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r65685 10CombatFilter/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): CombatFilter: embeds |
| 10:30.40 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc 072.3 * r65686 10Omen/Omen/: Copied remotely |
| 10:31.25 | Orionshock | Nandini: why? |
| 10:31.32 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 07RangeCheck-2.0 * r65687 10RangeCheck/2.4/ (3 files in 2 dirs): LibStubification |
| 10:31.42 | Nandini | because druids in feral forms now get +weapondmg from temporary weapon enchants |
| 10:32.07 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc 072.3 * r65688 10Threat-1.0/: Created folder remotely |
| 10:32.08 | Orionshock | like WF? |
| 10:32.15 | Funkeh` | is us getting patched now |
| 10:32.16 | Nandini | previously, we only got the +crit part of it, which made elemental sharpening stones (+28 crit) better for us |
| 10:32.18 | Nathanyel | well elemental still is the best weapon enchant for ferals ;) |
| 10:32.28 | Elsia | Funkeh`: yeah |
| 10:32.36 | Nathanyel | or are there BC stones with crit? |
| 10:32.41 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r65689 10CombatFilter/ (CombatFilter.lua FilterGUI.lua): CombatFilter: disable testing and unfinished stuff |
| 10:32.43 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc 072.3 * r65690 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/: Copied remotely |
| 10:32.44 | Orionshock | Funkeh`: patch not yet as of ~5mins ago |
| 10:32.45 | Nandini | actually, adamantite weightstone/sharpening stone will give you about twice the dps of elemental sharpening stone |
| 10:32.51 | Funkeh` | Elsia, thanks |
| 10:32.54 | Nathanyel | and how much crit? |
| 10:32.55 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 10:32.56 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 10:32.58 | nevcairiel | check EU alert |
| 10:33.03 | nevcairiel | says 2.4.0 tomorrow |
| 10:33.13 | Nandini | +12 weapondmg on our 55dps-base paws is a big increase to white dmg |
| 10:33.18 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 10:33.28 | Arrowmaster | and theres a torrent for the patch that points to the blizzard tracker |
| 10:33.31 | Arrowmaster | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/WoW-2.3.3-to-2.4.0-enUS-Win-patch.torrent |
| 10:33.36 | Nathanyel | and to most styles, yeah, but I'd prefer crit over +dmg |
| 10:33.44 | Nandini | adamantite ss/ws gives +12dmg/+14crit |
| 10:34.14 | Gelo | Arrowmaster, do people really not download through blizz downloader? :) |
| 10:34.23 | Nandini | i do |
| 10:34.37 | nevcairiel | i extract the torrent from blizzy loader and use that, generally |
| 10:34.48 | Gelo | I've disabled torrenting in blizz downloader and it finished over the night. |
| 10:34.58 | Nathanyel | I tried that once, wasn't really faster than the blizz proggy |
| 10:35.09 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65691 10Omen/: Removed Omen 2.3.2-compat from trunk, prep for copy. |
| 10:35.16 | Arrowmaster | Gelo: im downloading the rest of the patch and putting in it the proper spot so when i start wow and it downloads the patcher and trys to continue from the background downloader i already have it all |
| 10:35.33 | Pkekyo| | so 2.4 is out? |
| 10:35.41 | Elsia | Pkekyo|yes |
| 10:35.42 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 10:35.43 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65692 10Threat-1.0/: Removed Threat-1.0 from trunk (find a copy in tags), replaced by Threat-2.0 |
| 10:35.56 | mitch0 | antiarc: yo. is it possible to lock the pullout frame now? |
| 10:35.56 | nevcairiel | at least Antiarc cleans up his old mess :D |
| 10:35.57 | Gelo | Arrowmaster, "rest of the patch" meaning you don't use the so-called preloader at all? |
| 10:36.13 | Pkekyo| | cool, maybe I'll start playing wow again then |
| 10:36.14 | Nandini | thank you for being a responsible author, antiarc :) |
| 10:36.21 | Antiarc | mitch0: Pullout bars aren't in this version of Omen yet; they're still to-do, but I'll be doing them right |
| 10:36.25 | Arrowmaster | depends on the swarm usually, on one of the patches i was getting really slow with the blizzard downloader so i extracted the torrent and got extremely fast speed |
| 10:36.37 | Arrowmaster | Gelo: no i used the preloader and have the 250mb file already |
| 10:36.41 | Antiarc | Nandini: Don't mistake it for responsibility, I just don't want people downloading Threat-1.0 and bitching at me when it doesn't work! |
| 10:36.43 | Antiarc | (You're welcome :P) |
| 10:36.52 | Orionshock | how does one "Extract the torrent from the blizzy downloader" ? |
| 10:36.58 | Roblibob | lol |
| 10:37.02 | mitch0 | antiarc: oh. sad and nice :) |
| 10:37.02 | Nandini | mostly they will bitch because they won't update other addons and can't find threat-1.0 now :P |
| 10:37.03 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:29] <Elsia> still using bs-class for the config gui, no other babble though <--babble-boss too |
| 10:37.04 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 10:37.05 | Arrowmaster | WoWTorrentEx |
| 10:37.32 | Gelo | Arrowmaster, I'm just amazed there's someone who hasn't got the patch yet. :) |
| 10:37.35 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65693 10Omen/: Copied Omen 2.4-compat to trunk |
| 10:37.38 | mitch0 | antiarc: I just hope it won't take too long ;) |
| 10:37.47 | Elsia | nah not using babble-boss |
| 10:37.48 | Arrowmaster | Gelo: there will be lots of people that havent |
| 10:38.03 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: so its still Omen and not Omen2? |
| 10:38.08 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65694 10Threat-2.0/: Copied Threat-2.0 to trunk |
| 10:38.10 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116) |
| 10:38.29 | Nandini | plenty of people will not have played for the last month or two and will be downloading the whole thing tomorrow when they find out 2.4 is out |
| 10:38.29 | Antiarc | I'm using the Omen name because a) the old Omen is deprecated and not useful anymore, and b) this way people just hit "update" in WAU and it works. |
| 10:38.47 | Groktar | cool |
| 10:39.03 | Antiarc | If the 2.3-compat Omen was still useful I'd copy the new one to Omen2 |
| 10:39.12 | Antiarc | But there's no sense in making people track down a different name. |
| 10:39.20 | Groktar | ya |
| 10:39.23 | Antiarc | Plus, this will make WAU clean up their old copy before installing the new one. |
| 10:39.25 | Gelo | Nandini, If I quit I wouldn't come back just of a patch.. hehe. expansion, maybe. |
| 10:39.51 | Nandini | this patch has new content tho, not just rebalancing, which is why i think it will bring back quite a few players |
| 10:40.48 | Groktar | anyone know what nevcairiel is doing with bartender4? |
| 10:41.04 | Nandini | making it mean and sleek with ace3 :) |
| 10:41.12 | sylvanaar | are yall adjusting the toc versions now? |
| 10:41.19 | Groktar | ahh |
| 10:41.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 10:41.35 | Nathanyel | quit a week ago to get some RL things done. Haven't got to that yet, and already they're bringing out the patch >_<< |
| 10:42.10 | Pkekyo| | Bartender 4? oooh, geif...hope he'll enable on-buttonrelease hidden bars |
| 10:42.11 | Elkano | hiho sylvanaar |
| 10:42.18 | Orionshock | waits for the great 2.4 toc bump commits to start... |
| 10:42.19 | sb_ | okay - no more update today :p |
| 10:42.26 | nevcairiel | on-what-hidden-whatnow? |
| 10:42.29 | sylvanaar | hihi |
| 10:42.34 | Elsia | bumps Orionshock |
| 10:43.05 | Orionshock | ... awww didn't even get a phone number ... :( |
| 10:43.08 | mitch0 | are the Ace3DB and Ace2DB "on-disk" formats compatible? or should I use a different savedvar if I move my addon from Ace2 to Ace3? |
| 10:43.18 | nevcairiel | they are not compatible, no |
| 10:43.19 | Aiiane_ | nevcairiel, im assuming Pkekyo| means being able to toggle the hidden state of a bar by holding or releasing a key |
| 10:43.47 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar * r65695 10Prat/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Prat: TOC 20300 -> 20400 |
| 10:43.50 | nevcairiel | Aiiane_: that works already, just the configuration to reach that is un-intuitive :) |
| 10:43.55 | Nandini | or perhaps show-on-mouseover, hide-on-buttonup |
| 10:43.59 | mitch0 | nev: what happens if I try to "load" an Ace2 DB with Ace3? can I somehow detect it, or it'll error out? |
| 10:44.14 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: bars that are only visible when you push a button...say shift, as an example...I've got one bar with abilities that are all bound to shift+1, shift+2 etc...now, this bar is currently invisible (by vividly abusing the bar paging function) unless I press shift...want that as a proper function :p |
| 10:44.32 | nevcairiel | that works with BT4 already |
| 10:44.34 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 10:44.36 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 10:44.38 | Pkekyo| | it does? sweet! |
| 10:44.47 | nevcairiel | oh in theory it does |
| 10:44.56 | nevcairiel | i didnt add options to configure shift/ctrl yet |
| 10:45.00 | Arrowmaster | using transparency? |
| 10:45.15 | Arrowmaster | or is the bar not clickable until after you go out of combat? |
| 10:45.15 | nevcairiel | you can even use real :Hide |
| 10:45.22 | nevcairiel | using the stateheader |
| 10:45.29 | nevcairiel | showstates ftw |
| 10:45.29 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 10:45.38 | Pkekyo| | hmm...sounds good :) |
| 10:45.45 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65696 10Omen/Libs/: Omen: Update externals to point to trunk |
| 10:45.45 | sylvanaar | Elkano make LSM-3.0 work without me having to include CBH-1.0 :) xxx ooo |
| 10:46.13 | Antiarc | I agree with sylvanaar in principle. I dislike having to include deps + TOC for embedded libs |
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| 10:46.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 10:46.22 | sb_ | Antiarc: so omen is now broken? :P |
| 10:46.27 | sb_ | on 2.3 |
| 10:46.28 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65697 10Threat-2.0/Libs/: Threat-2.0: Update externals to point to trunk |
| 10:46.29 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 10:46.33 | Antiarc | sb_: Yes. But 2.4 is tomorrow. |
| 10:46.38 | sb_ | i know :) |
| 10:46.42 | Aiiane | but, 2.3 client is broken on live servers, so :P |
| 10:46.45 | Nandini | poor eu players who are updating now. LOL |
| 10:46.47 | Antiarc | If you have a raid between now and when 2.4 launches, sorry, yer outta luck. |
| 10:46.54 | Aiiane | or will be |
| 10:46.54 | Nathanyel | :B |
| 10:47.09 | Elsia | just go to files and grab the previous revision, no biggie |
| 10:47.14 | Nathanyel | does WAU support announcements? |
| 10:47.23 | Nathanyel | or maybe use that ad banner to warn EU users :B |
| 10:47.26 | sb_ | well, i dont care, i know not to update the day before patchdayt :p |
| 10:47.27 | dodga | So is there any addon yet to fine-tune the new combat log filter thingie? |
| 10:47.42 | Nandini | i always read changelogs before i update anything |
| 10:47.44 | Nathanyel | yeah but many people can barely use WAU, they don#t know about revisions :P |
| 10:47.52 | Elkano | sylvanaar, see my post in the LSM-3.0 thread |
| 10:47.56 | Matrix110 | hmmm good idea to not update today :D |
| 10:48.08 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65698 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Update the TOC with a compat message for WAU users' benefit. |
| 10:49.22 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r65699 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ActionBarStates.lua: Bartender4: make default bar state work |
| 10:50.09 | sylvanaar | branch |
| 10:50.22 | chexsum_ | if 2.4 is tomorrow why am i not getting the download ? :( |
| 10:50.29 | Corgan | because they hate you |
| 10:50.42 | Aiiane | because you already have it? |
| 10:50.47 | Aiiane | most of it was preloaded. |
| 10:51.13 | Nandini | it always takes a few hours for them to push out the torrent with the last bits via launcher |
| 10:51.17 | sylvanaar | becuse they havent adjusted the login server to the new version |
| 10:51.41 | Aiiane | if you want to grab the last bits right now, check one of the mirrors, such as http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 10:52.20 | sacarasc | stabs Antiarc |
| 10:52.25 | Antiarc | :( |
| 10:52.31 | sacarasc | you're out of luck too! |
| 10:52.40 | sacarasc | but i'm just not gonna update yet ;p |
| 10:52.42 | Corgan | licks Antiarc's wounds |
| 10:52.51 | sacarasc | ;o |
| 10:52.56 | Aiiane | on a side note, how often does files.wowace.com update the index that WAU grabs? |
| 10:53.04 | Antiarc | every 20 minutes. |
| 10:53.05 | nevcairiel | every 20 minutes |
| 10:53.08 | Aiiane | kk |
| 10:53.42 | Orionshock | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/tournament/index.xml |
| 10:53.46 | Orionshock | wtb on live servers :D |
| 10:54.15 | sacarasc | Aiiane: which revisions are broken for 2.3? (just so i can check that none of my guildmates are using them) |
| 10:54.21 | sacarasc | erm |
| 10:54.24 | Aiiane | aroo? |
| 10:54.24 | sacarasc | *antiarc |
| 10:54.34 | Aiiane | tabcomplowned :) |
| 10:54.42 | sacarasc | sorry, half asleep and bad tab completion |
| 10:54.44 | Antiarc | Anything past 65691 |
| 10:54.58 | Antiarc | Rev 65691 was me nuking the 2.3 version :) |
| 10:54.59 | Nathanyel | Aiiane: rofl@that word |
| 10:55.26 | sylvanaar | Elkano i see your post, though I think if you hardcopy a lib then it should be in lib.xml, that or CBH should be out on the trunk as a standalone |
| 10:55.37 | kebinusan | ~patch |
| 10:55.38 | purl | somebody said patch was just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1', or `patch -ruN old_dir new_dir > tree.diff` |
| 10:55.40 | Aiiane | Nathanyel: makewords are entertainic |
| 10:55.50 | kebinusan | ~wowpatch |
| 10:55.51 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowpatchmirror is http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 10:56.18 | sacarasc | another 5 digits on my monitor which have no context |
| 10:57.24 | sacarasc | 260Mb patch might be bad ;\ |
| 10:57.53 | Aiiane | do you get the preloaded content? if so you probably have most of it |
| 10:58.09 | Elkano | sylvanaar, it wasn't my decission to handle CBH like LS but it was done that way. if WAU/files would be better on the externals stuff CBH wouldn't be hardincluded |
| 10:58.51 | sacarasc | Aiiane: probably not... |
| 10:59.12 | Aiiane | well, easy way to check |
| 10:59.15 | Aiiane | go to your WoW folder |
| 10:59.26 | sylvanaar | well, really WAU/Files is ok, you guys just really dont want to OptDep Ace3 (which is where CallBackHandler-1.0 is) |
| 10:59.30 | Aiiane | and look for a Patches subfolder |
| 10:59.36 | Aiiane | assuming it exists, open it |
| 10:59.50 | sacarasc | nope |
| 11:00.00 | Aiiane | k, if it doesnt exist then you probably dont have the preload |
| 11:00.01 | sacarasc | (for 2.4) |
| 11:00.27 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 072.4 * r65700 10RangeDisplay/ (. RangeDisplay.lua embeds.xml): work in progress |
| 11:00.27 | Aiiane | well, if you want to start downloading it now you can, from one of the mirrors that has it up already |
| 11:00.42 | sacarasc | none have enGB yet ;p |
| 11:00.42 | Aiiane | or you can just wait until the regular patcher is flipped on |
| 11:00.52 | Aiiane | ah :P |
| 11:01.01 | Nathanyel | you're gonna have to download much of that again anyway, when the actual patcher is up |
| 11:01.06 | sacarasc | and getting patch parts would probably go wrong anyway |
| 11:01.06 | Nathanyel | just like with 2.3 |
| 11:01.11 | Elkano | sylvanaar, but why don't you simply include CBH in your addon like you do with LS? |
| 11:01.19 | Nathanyel | 200MB preload, yet it had to download 200+ again |
| 11:01.27 | *** join/#wowace Fastfire (n=kjetil@216-79-251.7003.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 11:01.42 | Aiiane | Nathanyel - someone already verified it, the preload is fine |
| 11:01.47 | sylvanaar | well LS comes with AceLibrary, so LS isnt an issue for me |
| 11:02.11 | sylvanaar | but the actual issue is that the standalone is different than the embed |
| 11:02.38 | nevcairiel | how so? |
| 11:03.01 | sylvanaar | because a standalone would have just left out CBH |
| 11:03.07 | sylvanaar | normally |
| 11:03.16 | sylvanaar | and then refered to Ace3 |
| 11:03.26 | sylvanaar | that's how its different |
| 11:03.36 | nevcairiel | CBH is not supposed to be its own standalone, its like LibStub |
| 11:03.59 | Snago | CBH could come from something else than Ace3 |
| 11:04.19 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 072.4 * r65701 10RangeDisplay/embeds.xml: forgot-o-matic |
| 11:04.21 | nevcairiel | LSM-3.0 standalone includes CBH, for example |
| 11:04.29 | sylvanaar | that's my point |
| 11:04.31 | Elsia | that's what sylv is saying. LS-3.0 doesn't embed CBH when it should |
| 11:04.40 | Elsia | or rather it does embed but not xml it |
| 11:04.54 | sylvanaar | if the standalone embeds it, then the lib should too |
| 11:05.18 | Orionshock | seriously, only external to trunk :D |
| 11:05.27 | Orionshock | ... |
| 11:05.41 | Aiiane | hmm |
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| 11:05.55 | Aiiane | maybe im being noobish, but omen seems to have entirely disappeared off files.wowace now :P |
| 11:05.57 | Elkano | though CBH was developed during Ace3 development it's not 100% considered part of the Ace3 package I think |
| 11:06.15 | Nathanyel | looks for Butters to tell him that Gwenstefani has arrived. |
| 11:06.17 | Antiarc | Aiiane: It should still be there - http://files.wowace.com/Omen/ exists |
| 11:06.20 | nevcairiel | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/ |
| 11:06.24 | Antiarc | However, the new zip hasn't been built yet |
| 11:06.29 | Antiarc | Doh, I'll fix that up. |
| 11:06.33 | Aiiane | :) |
| 11:06.48 | Arrowmaster | woh your still using my lib? |
| 11:07.08 | TE|kulaar | http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/benlai_87/UI/illidanui230208.jpg looking for that addon that shows him ony sunder armor thunderclap and this things (under is player frame) [I know its a totally crap interface] |
| 11:07.08 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Yeah, for the raid icon callbacks |
| 11:07.08 | sylvanaar | yeah, im not trying to be difficult. I just think you are diverging from common practice, and you could just as easily follow it. |
| 11:07.08 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: you know the fun thing, you killed alot of addons from the .zip list becauese threat-1.0 is a invalid external now :D |
| 11:07.19 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: I'm re-adding a stub threat-1.0 dir. |
| 11:07.24 | nevcairiel | oh boo |
| 11:07.31 | nevcairiel | i thought it was funny |
| 11:07.31 | nevcairiel | let them update their shit |
| 11:07.37 | Orionshock | ^^ |
| 11:07.39 | Arrowmaster | agree with nev |
| 11:07.53 | Aiiane | TE|kulaar, that looks like it's just pitbull's normal aura displays |
| 11:07.53 | Nandini | it's actually a good idea, as the author of a "broken" library you are preventing people from continuing to use it |
| 11:08.04 | kebinusan | TE|kulaar: buffalo? maybe setup somewhat custom Id gather |
| 11:08.06 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65702 10Threat-1.0/: Threat-1.0: Add a stub directory. This will cause old copies of Threat-1.0 to be cleaned up, and will let other addons that use it not break the files build process horribly in terrible burning flames. |
| 11:08.08 | Antiarc | Nandini: I removed it from trunk. They can't use it anymore :P |
| 11:08.30 | TE|kulaar | this ui doesnt look like smth has been "customized" |
| 11:08.30 | TE|kulaar | ^^ |
| 11:08.44 | nevcairiel | its not building the files build process |
| 11:08.44 | nevcairiel | it'll just skip the addons that still use it |
| 11:08.47 | nevcairiel | *breaking |
| 11:08.47 | _rane_ | patch live in the US already? |
| 11:08.57 | TE|kulaar | seems like a frame filtering important buffs |
| 11:09.13 | kebinusan | which is why I said buffalo |
| 11:09.15 | Aiiane | _rane_: servers just went down for maintainence |
| 11:09.19 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65703 10Omen/Libs/: Omen: Fix LibGUIDRegistry external. Need to either move this to trunk or re-implement raid icon callbacks locally. |
| 11:09.22 | Nandini | the patch is available for US clients, but servers wont be up for another 8-10 hours probably |
| 11:09.33 | _rane_ | Aiiane: oh, just now |
| 11:09.43 | Aiiane | _rane_: about an hour ago |
| 11:09.43 | Antiarc | Where's the patch torrent? |
| 11:09.46 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: seeing how WAU will break with a branch library, you should just hard-include the file or so |
| 11:09.52 | Antiarc | Doh, it will? |
| 11:09.56 | Antiarc | >_< |
| 11:10.01 | nevcairiel | no-ext mode will not have the external |
| 11:10.02 | Antiarc | Okay, I'll see what I can do. |
| 11:10.06 | nevcairiel | but no library .zip to fetch it |
| 11:10.07 | Nandini | WAU doesn't like externals on branches |
| 11:10.26 | Aiiane | Antiarc: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/torrent/WoW-2.4.0-enUS-patch.torrent |
| 11:10.39 | TE|kulaar | but how can you display debuffs on your target with buffalo? |
| 11:11.05 | Orionshock | the files site will compile the ext-zip just fine, but WAU will puke and eat your computer on a no-ext zip |
| 11:11.09 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Are you opposed to me trunking LibGUIDRegistry? |
| 11:11.11 | TE|kulaar | @ kebinusan |
| 11:11.19 | Antiarc | I'm still using it for GUID -> name lookups and raid icon callbacks. |
| 11:11.47 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: i guess not |
| 11:11.48 | Nandini | if you anticpate you may not need it in the future, you might want to just hard include it |
| 11:11.52 | Elkano | sylvanaar, as I said, it wasn't up to me to decide wether CBH should be handled like a lib external or like LS and it was decided to handle it like LS :/ |
| 11:12.11 | Antiarc | Nandini: Well, a registry of GUIDs to lookup names against seems like it does belong in a central GUID registry ;) |
| 11:12.12 | Nandini | or if you plan to not use it in the future |
| 11:12.22 | Antiarc | It's the sort of thing that many addons may want to use. |
| 11:12.35 | Arrowmaster | i need to work on it again |
| 11:12.46 | Nandini | yes, i agree :) it's the perfect example of a registry library, i'd like one for player data too |
| 11:13.15 | Nandini | so that for example, prat can put its playernames and altnames and levels there, and inspect can put talents there for caching |
| 11:13.15 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65704 10LibGUIDRegistry-0.1/: Copied remotely |
| 11:13.47 | nevcairiel | i wonder how fast i'll run into issues with CombatFilter =P |
| 11:14.09 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65705 10Omen/Libs/: Omen: Back to the trunk with thee! |
| 11:14.45 | Nandini | i still use the extremely outdated addon "TrackingInfo" which adds level/hostility/class coloring to minimap tracking tooltips |
| 11:15.02 | Nandini | and it keeps its own database of players, it would be nice not to have 3 megs worth of data stored for that and for prat |
| 11:15.26 | Arrowmaster | you know now that we have guids..... |
| 11:15.36 | Nandini | yes, player data caching makes perfect sense |
| 11:15.45 | Elkano | maybe it should be called 1-0 instead of 0.1 now ;) |
| 11:15.54 | Arrowmaster | Elkano: nah |
| 11:16.54 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: did you get around to the target-target thing when targeting players yet? :) |
| 11:17.03 | Antiarc | Yeah, I put that in the other day. |
| 11:17.07 | nevcairiel | cool |
| 11:17.28 | Nandini | that will make for some happy healers :) |
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| 11:17.50 | nevcairiel | looking forward to first sunwell raid tomorrow |
| 11:17.55 | Aiiane | heh |
| 11:18.20 | Aiiane | Patch day raiding = bad idea ;) |
| 11:18.36 | sylvanaar | all that mod drama |
| 11:18.44 | Aiiane | not just mod drama |
| 11:18.49 | Orionshock_ | indeed |
| 11:18.52 | Aiiane | server loads, distracted people, etc |
| 11:18.55 | nevcairiel | meh, if its only to get people to realize they need to update their mods, so we can raid on thurs |
| 11:18.56 | Nandini | just don't die and release, you can also look forward to "world server is down" from 4000 people running around the isle |
| 11:19.07 | Aiiane | heh yeah Nandini |
| 11:19.21 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 11:19.49 | Aiiane | ah, that reminds me of the first week or so of TBC release |
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| 11:19.55 | Zhinjio | the newness and fun of wiki stuff hasn't worn off on me yet. |
| 11:20.04 | Aiiane | outland crashing every ~4 hours or so |
| 11:20.15 | Nandini | wiki is fun until you make a mistake and someone ELSE corrects you. heheh |
| 11:22.18 | Nandini | i'm angry that 8089 is the build we're getting, it introduced a nasty graphic bug for me with dual monitors |
| 11:22.31 | kebinusan | 4000 people asking HAI WHERE IS TEH BADGE VENDOR |
| 11:22.32 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65706 10Threat-1.0/removed.txt: Threat-1.0: Add an explanation message so people know where the lib went. |
| 11:22.32 | Aiiane | oh? |
| 11:22.38 | evl | Nandini: what bug? |
| 11:22.49 | Aiiane | uses dual monitors, so... |
| 11:22.57 | Antiarc | I use dual monitors as well. |
| 11:22.57 | kebinusan | Nandini: what bug? |
| 11:23.00 | Nandini | if i use WorldFrame:SetPoint() (or any addon that does that) i get graphic corruption in the blank area |
| 11:23.08 | Zhinjio | Nandini: well, yeah. But thats the nature of the beast. |
| 11:23.27 | kebinusan | guess they didnt want patch day to be april 1st |
| 11:23.33 | Aiiane | i dont think I could handle going back to a single monitor for too long now after having used dual :P |
| 11:23.47 | kebinusan | I only use one for wow |
| 11:23.52 | kebinusan | the other is for ADD web browsing |
| 11:23.53 | nevcairiel | Nandini: create a black frame to sit on top of the "empty" area |
| 11:23.56 | Nandini | apparently this has happened to other people on the live client tho and doesn't affect everyone with 8089 |
| 11:24.05 | Nandini | yes, i've already scripted a frame in a macro. LOL |
| 11:24.12 | Aiiane | kebinusan: same as what I do |
| 11:24.34 | Aiiane | except it's "add web browsing/IM/IRC/music/console" |
| 11:24.35 | nevcairiel | i've had that error too on live, when changing the worldframe height |
| 11:24.57 | nevcairiel | just a black frame to sit on top of the empty sapce |
| 11:25.00 | nevcairiel | and problem solved |
| 11:25.15 | sylvanaar | ok patcher is live |
| 11:25.42 | Nandini | yup, only 10 extra megs of bits |
| 11:25.52 | ramoz | 2.4 up in the US? |
| 11:25.55 | Antiarc | Heh, I didn't preload any of it. |
| 11:25.59 | Antiarc | Go go 261mb download |
| 11:26.00 | nevcairiel | wonder how many addons now really broke because threat-1.0 is gone, the "no new zips because invalid external" was better imho =P |
| 11:26.01 | Zyndrome | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors <3 |
| 11:26.01 | sylvanaar | lets see if WAU detects 20400 |
| 11:26.03 | Antiarc | And yes, the 2.4 patcher is up |
| 11:26.23 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Honestly, I'd leave it, except a Threat-1.0 stub directory cleans up old Threat-1.0 disembeds. |
| 11:26.24 | sylvanaar | i dont thing wdb.wowinterface.com has been updated for the 2.4 live patch |
| 11:26.35 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: true |
| 11:26.51 | Antiarc | WOO |
| 11:27.01 | Antiarc | Omen-r65386.zip: 498K |
| 11:27.07 | nevcairiel | down from? |
| 11:27.08 | Antiarc | Omen-r65705.zip: 249K |
| 11:27.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:27.14 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 11:27.27 | Antiarc | That's compressed, too! |
| 11:27.27 | nevcairiel | thats whats babble will do to you! |
| 11:27.40 | Funkeh` | wow.exe + 20KB? ;p |
| 11:27.44 | Funkeh` | 200* |
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| 11:28.24 | evl | is Babble obsolete? |
| 11:28.30 | sylvanaar | no |
| 11:28.30 | nevcairiel | depends |
| 11:28.31 | Orionshock_ | evl: most of it |
| 11:28.34 | nevcairiel | babble-spell is |
| 11:28.41 | Nandini | it's no longer needed for many common purposes |
| 11:28.58 | sylvanaar | you still need babble-class, i know that |
| 11:28.59 | Funkeh` | babble spell is completely obsolete |
| 11:29.10 | Matrix110 | Babble was always obsolote loading it with enGB client should be considered harrasment! |
| 11:29.15 | nevcairiel | yeah stupid blizzy doesnt include class names anywhere |
| 11:29.19 | Orionshock_ | Babble Tradeskill is for about ~20 lines of translations |
| 11:29.29 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 11:29.38 | Arrowmaster | somebody bloated it up |
| 11:29.47 | Arrowmaster | with useless translations |
| 11:29.49 | Funkeh` | cheer |
| 11:30.14 | sylvanaar | lets see what version of chatframe.lua made it to live.... |
| 11:30.26 | nevcairiel | the same as in 8089 |
| 11:30.40 | Orionshock_ | well, i only needed it for about 13 translations, and i gladly rip'ed it from BTS and included it manually |
| 11:31.16 | sylvanaar | im not sure which one 8089 was |
| 11:31.27 | sylvanaar | it changed every time they updated |
| 11:31.43 | Nandini | it's the one that was on ptr for the last 4-5 days |
| 11:31.53 | sylvanaar | i was out of town |
| 11:31.53 | Nandini | so if you tested with that one, you should be fine |
| 11:32.00 | Aiiane | Antiarc: alright, omen is now properly back in the index ;) |
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| 11:32.15 | Groktar | wait, sct got updated for 2.4? |
| 11:32.20 | Groktar | i thought it was drp[[ed |
| 11:32.24 | Groktar | dropped |
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| 11:33.05 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r65707 10Omen/Localization/koKR.lua: |
| 11:33.05 | CIA-9 | Omen : |
| 11:33.05 | CIA-9 | - Fixed typo in koKR |
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| 11:33.19 | Antiarc | rofl, and the localization begins. |
| 11:33.22 | nevcairiel | hehehe |
| 11:33.30 | nevcairiel | they even did that in your branch already |
| 11:33.41 | Antiarc | yeah, I'd noticed that |
| 11:34.39 | Nandini | the bad thing is, no one is able to test it with their localization changes for 8 more hours :/ |
| 11:34.56 | Orionshock_ | lua compiler |
| 11:34.56 | Zhinjio | patch already done. nice. |
| 11:35.08 | Nandini | do you think they will bother to do that? |
| 11:35.13 | Orionshock_ | no |
| 11:35.41 | mitch0 | is there a way to "rescue" resources from an outdated minor version of a lib in LibStub land (the equivalent of activate(self, oldLib, oldDeactivate) stuff from AceLibrary)? |
| 11:36.09 | Orionshock_ | mitch0: the NewLib() call to LS returns the old minor if there is an update |
| 11:36.23 | Arrowmaster | thats a number |
| 11:36.36 | mitch0 | orion: so I should grab the old lib with GetLib() then? |
| 11:36.49 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:37.01 | Arrowmaster | because the oldlib is the same as the current lib |
| 11:37.10 | Orionshock_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:37.27 | Orionshock_ | it returns the old Lib when you do a newLib call, so you don't need to |
| 11:37.36 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 11:37.42 | Orionshock_ | just do "lib.var = lib.var or {}" |
| 11:37.43 | mitch0 | so if I already created a frame in minor_ver1 and I'm initializing minor_ver2, then I should just check if self.frame is not nil? |
| 11:37.43 | Arrowmaster | it returns the version of the old lib |
| 11:37.49 | evl | ~toc |
| 11:37.50 | purl | the current WoW Interface Number is : 20300 |
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| 11:38.06 | Arrowmaster | lib.frame = lib.frame or CreateFrame() |
| 11:38.06 | evl | i presume 2.4 is 20400? |
| 11:38.14 | nevcairiel | mitch0: what Arrowmaster said |
| 11:38.15 | mitch0 | arrow: thanks |
| 11:38.21 | Orionshock_ | ... |
| 11:38.21 | Nandini | evl: correct |
| 11:38.40 | mitch0 | so I should move all the stuff from activate() to right after lib = NewLib(), right? |
| 11:39.25 | Orionshock_ | de fk, i was reading from LibStub.lua, and Arrowmaster and i said just about the same exact thing... learn to read people.... |
| 11:40.08 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar * r65708 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Enable 2.4 features |
| 11:40.13 | nevcairiel | mitch0: basically yes, make sure to add a "if not lib then return end" |
| 11:40.28 | mitch0 | yeah, done that already |
| 11:41.13 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65709 10BigWigs_AQ20/ (7 files): BigWigs_AQ20: remove 2.3 compat, only worky on 2.4 could also use localization updating |
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| 11:42.08 | mitch0 | does UnitClass("player") return a meaningful value at addon load-time? |
| 11:42.17 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 11:42.24 | mitch0 | cool, thanks |
| 11:42.57 | TE|kulaar | parrot currently 2.4 viable? |
| 11:43.11 | Zhinjio | whoa |
| 11:43.15 | Orionshock_ | TE|kulaar: don't think so... |
| 11:43.22 | Zhinjio | the new login screen shows "Development" as a region |
| 11:43.24 | Zhinjio | thats pretty cool |
| 11:43.30 | TE|kulaar | sct is as far as i know? |
| 11:43.30 | Nandini | and also Tournament :) |
| 11:43.44 | Orionshock_ | btw, are they doing away with the 2.3 combat log entirely and only firing 2 combat log events now?? |
| 11:43.47 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 11:43.52 | Aiiane | i believe so yes |
| 11:43.58 | Orionshock_ | that blows.... |
| 11:44.15 | Nandini | it's not like authors didn't have ample time to prepare |
| 11:44.32 | mitch0 | arrow: one more question: minor1 created a frame, and called frame:SetScript("something", self). do I need to call SetScript again when initializing minor2? |
| 11:44.33 | Orionshock_ | but i like chronometer -.- |
| 11:44.45 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 11:45.03 | Arrowmaster | incase you change the script in a future version |
| 11:45.17 | Nathanyel | chronometer <3 |
| 11:45.28 | mitch0 | arrow: will it overwrite the old SetScript setting? |
| 11:45.33 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 11:45.37 | mitch0 | ok. thanks |
| 11:45.48 | Orionshock_ | i know... almost makes me want to reWrite parser lib so i can keep using it :D |
| 11:46.06 | mitch0 | from now on assume an implied "thanks" whenever appropriate |
| 11:46.08 | nevcairiel | i'll delete it from svn personally |
| 11:46.38 | Orionshock_ | wow, that's alot of hate there nevcairiel |
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| 11:48.38 | peragor | I still haven't found anything more useful then Chronometer |
| 11:48.45 | Elsia | making old parser based addons work with the combat log isn't that hard, parser output is very similar to the new events |
| 11:49.02 | Elsia | i.e. it should be easy enough to rescue chromometer |
| 11:51.40 | Nathanyel | go go Orionshock_ :) |
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| 11:53.47 | Antiarc | Whoa |
| 11:53.59 | Antiarc | Chastise no longer disorients the target, but is now instant cast and roots the target for 2 seconds. |
| 11:54.14 | Nathanyel | yeah that's sick |
| 11:54.41 | Aiiane | yeah, it's now basically a netherweave net. |
| 11:54.52 | nevcairiel | disorient is cooler tho, works on casters too |
| 11:54.57 | Nathanyel | very strong racial imho |
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| 11:54.59 | Aiiane | which is pretty much a nerf :| |
| 11:55.23 | Elsia | does the root work on pve raid mobs? then it's a pve buff and a pvp nerf |
| 11:55.34 | Antiarc | Holy cow, I missed the shaman Toughness buff |
| 11:55.36 | nevcairiel | why do priests get a special racial anyway, and other classes dont? |
| 11:55.38 | Aiiane | i'd assume it works on whatever netherweave nets work on |
| 11:55.41 | Antiarc | -50% duration to snares? o.0 |
| 11:55.43 | Aiiane | nevcairiel: noone really knows |
| 11:56.07 | Aiiane | nevcairiel: same reason priests' armor buff has charges, a 10-minute duration, and no secondary effect |
| 11:56.19 | Aiiane | but i wont go into that further here :P |
| 11:56.29 | Elsia | looks like less nets at vashj for learning raid groups |
| 11:56.46 | nevcairiel | the net is even useful if you're done learning imho |
| 11:56.46 | Aiiane | only if you're alliance, Elsia. |
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| 11:57.09 | nevcairiel | initial root for the lock (or whatever you use) to grab them |
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| 11:57.21 | Elsia | it's the old: make people roll races they would not very likely otherwise |
| 11:57.29 | Nathanyel | so Alliance gets a Raid buff again, after the fear nerf made fear ward nearly obsolete anyway |
| 11:57.33 | Aiiane | people would roll draeneii anyways |
| 11:57.40 | Aiiane | -i |
| 11:57.58 | Elsia | its consolation to the dorf preists really, which is fine by me |
| 11:57.59 | Antiarc | Draenei are so much more powerful in PVE, it's silly |
| 11:58.05 | Aiiane | seriously |
| 11:58.09 | Antiarc | 1% spellhit and party mana pots? What's not to love? |
| 11:58.13 | Aiiane | no other class gets something anywhere near their racials |
| 11:58.15 | Elsia | there aren't that many fights where a short root is useful, basically only vashj |
| 11:58.38 | Nathanyel | party mana pots? |
| 11:58.42 | Nathanyel | oh, Symbol of Hope |
| 11:58.44 | Nathanyel | whoa |
| 11:58.44 | Antiarc | Chastise is nearly never useful in PVE |
| 11:58.48 | Antiarc | Yes, Symbol of Hope |
| 11:58.49 | Nathanyel | never heard of that before |
| 11:58.55 | Elsia | well belf and draenei racials again are to make people roll them, else you'd have far less of them compared to the standard races |
| 11:58.55 | Aiiane | http://wowhead.com/?spell=32548 |
| 11:59.08 | Aiiane | not really Elsia |
| 11:59.09 | kebinusan | Yeah one of our spriests actually leveled and geared a 2nd spriest and main switched toa draenei |
| 11:59.11 | Nathanyel | people would roll BE and Draenei anyway |
| 11:59.16 | Nathanyel | there are enough of the new races |
| 11:59.42 | Antiarc | At level 70, it's +1k mana to all party members |
| 11:59.45 | mitch0 | in http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsSpellInRange : spellId means spellbook-id, right? or can I use the "static" spellid here as well? |
| 12:00.32 | JoshBorke | mitch0: it only works on spells you know |
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| 12:00.43 | Aiiane | you'd think after the entire priest racials debacle |
| 12:00.48 | Aiiane | blizz would steer away from it |
| 12:00.55 | mitch0 | josh: so it means spellbook-id then, right? |
| 12:00.57 | Aiiane | but then they decided to give pallies racial spells as well |
| 12:01.21 | Elsia | mitch0: they may have changed the call to take the other spellIDs instead of names, but would need testin |
| 12:01.44 | mitch0 | josh: so basically, if I want to use the "static" spellid (so as to avoid babble-spell), I first have to find the spell name via GetSpellInfo()? |
| 12:01.44 | Elsia | i like racials ;) |
| 12:01.59 | Elsia | it's the "don't have everything be the same" thing, but it does add extra balancing needs |
| 12:02.16 | sag_ich_nicht | sooooo i can't find the bluepost anymore |
| 12:02.20 | Aiiane | make racials be race-wide though |
| 12:02.22 | sag_ich_nicht | so: how do i set the new combatlog to ultra compressed mode? :> |
| 12:02.27 | Aiiane | don't restrict them to a single professioin |
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| 12:02.50 | Aiiane | the basic class abilities should be the same |
| 12:02.55 | Elsia | what is ultra compressed mode? |
| 12:03.15 | Elsia | nah it's fine for race to matter with class abilities |
| 12:03.18 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65710 10MobSpells/Libs/: MobSpells: Change externals to trunk |
| 12:03.36 | Elsia | anyway gotta go to work :P |
| 12:03.40 | Elsia | laters folks |
| 12:04.50 | mitch0 | hohum, lot of testing is needed ;( |
| 12:05.24 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65711 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.toc: Threat-1.0: Add a TOC so files will build it. |
| 12:06.11 | Megalon | sag_ich_nicht: delete your Combat Log chatframe, bam, ultra compressed |
| 12:06.39 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5540064448&sid=1 |
| 12:06.40 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 12:06.41 | Antiarc | Poor guy |
| 12:06.46 | Antiarc | Everything he knows is now wrong |
| 12:07.03 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65712 10BigWigs_AQ20/GeneralRajaxx.lua: BigWigs_AQ20: remove unused local |
| 12:07.18 | Anea | Anyone able to hint me on how to get a proper GetHeight() readout from a fontstring object? |
| 12:07.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:06] <Megalon> sag_ich_nicht: delete your Combat Log chatframe, bam, ultra compressed <--what |
| 12:07.57 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 12:08.06 | Megalon | :P |
| 12:08.53 | sag_ich_nicht | gh which reminds me |
| 12:09.08 | Anea | I followed the instruction on the fontstring topic as found on wowwiki. And while I do get a readout, it still is smaller than the actual size. |
| 12:10.23 | mitch0 | anea: isn't it due the the global UI scale thing? (just a wild guess) |
| 12:10.44 | Anea | mm... that actually is a good point... didn't check that |
| 12:10.49 | Xinhuan | http://giddygamer.com/wow/content/reputation/bc_shattered_sun_rep_quests.pdf |
| 12:10.52 | Xinhuan | someone made a pdf |
| 12:10.58 | Xinhuan | for reputation with sunwell lol |
| 12:11.01 | sag_ich_nicht | NICE |
| 12:11.03 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=chatzill@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 12:11.06 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 12:11.21 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65713 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (7 files): BigWigs_Azeroth: 2.4 only |
| 12:12.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i am lazy, anyone willing to help me rewrite this for 2.4: http://pastey.net/84343 |
| 12:12.50 | Kaaosa | nothx |
| 12:12.52 | Kaaosa | :x |
| 12:13.11 | Antiarc | No need to change anything |
| 12:13.18 | Antiarc | Those events didn't change |
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| 12:14.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: thanks |
| 12:14.33 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r65714 10GatherMate/ (Constants.lua GatherMate.toc): GatherMate: update for new Brackish Schools and updated Toc |
| 12:14.55 | sag_ich_nicht | oh RIGHT Antiarc i wanted to talk to you anyway |
| 12:15.00 | kenlyric | shouldn't the sunwell be a font, not a fount? |
| 12:15.17 | kenlyric | I guess fount works too |
| 12:15.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: are you sure silent resolve behaviour in regards to VE didn't change in 2.4? |
| 12:15.29 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: I haven't tested it. It's on my to-do list. |
| 12:15.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't check because A: i don't have a SP and B: i couldn't install the PTR, ever |
| 12:16.14 | kenlyric | is simplecombatlog needed in this new, glorious future? |
| 12:16.26 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:16.26 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 12:16.28 | Antiarc | I have an SP, but I filled all my xfer slots |
| 12:16.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: actually yes, but it will be a lot shorter codewise |
| 12:16.57 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 12:17.13 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r65715 10GatherMate_Data/GatherMate_Data.toc: GatherMate_Data: weekly data harvest via cron |
| 12:17.18 | Arrowmaster | the new combatlog does almost exactly what SCL does |
| 12:17.22 | sag_ich_nicht | for lazy/stupid people that don't know how to set the new combatlog to ultra compressed |
| 12:17.25 | sag_ich_nicht | (i.e. me) |
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| 12:17.42 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r65716 10kgPanels/kgPanels.toc: kgPanels: toc update |
| 12:17.53 | mitch0 | gah. do hunters still have "Wing Clip (Rank1)" after obtaining "Wing Clip (Rank2)" or should I check all ranks? |
| 12:18.05 | kenlyric | yes, all ranks |
| 12:18.18 | Antiarc | They do. Only warriors and rogues lose access to earlier ranks. |
| 12:18.19 | kenlyric | mana using abilities always retain all ranks |
| 12:18.20 | VersusSA | yes |
| 12:18.20 | mitch0 | "yes, they have all ranks" or "yes, you have to check all ranks" |
| 12:18.33 | mitch0 | ok, then s/hunters/warriors/ |
| 12:18.37 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r65717 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.toc: kgPanelsConfig: toc update |
| 12:19.02 | nevcairiel | warriors only have the highest rank |
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| 12:19.22 | kenlyric | *only* mana using abilities retain all ranks :) |
| 12:19.29 | cncfanatics | hmmm, are all addons on wowace already for 2.4 ? |
| 12:19.39 | Antiarc | Not likely |
| 12:19.39 | cncfanatics | cuz its still 2.3 in europe and all my addons bugged today (or a lot of them at least) |
| 12:19.40 | Arrowmaster | all? hell no |
| 12:19.41 | mitch0 | not likely |
| 12:19.41 | kenlyric | guess you'll find out :) |
| 12:19.45 | Kaaosa | All the ones I use, hopefully :x |
| 12:19.57 | cncfanatics | lots of my addons started crashing today, still 2.3 here |
| 12:20.01 | Snago | Europe users don't want to update addons today |
| 12:20.06 | cncfanatics | I did :s |
| 12:20.10 | Snago | rollback |
| 12:20.17 | CIA-9 | 03cwdg * r65718 10CoolDownButtons/ (CoolDownButtons.toc locales/zhCN.lua): |
| 12:20.17 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 12:20.17 | CIA-9 | -add zhCN |
| 12:20.23 | cncfanatics | no easy way to do that |
| 12:20.32 | cncfanatics | guess I'm back to manual install |
| 12:20.46 | sag_ich_nicht | enjoy going to files.wowace.com/AddonName/no-ext/ and downloading everything on revision older like i did |
| 12:20.53 | sag_ich_nicht | one |
| 12:20.57 | cncfanatics | hehe yea sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:21.02 | cncfanatics | then libraries -.- |
| 12:21.05 | kenlyric | weapon skill gains faster, I didn't notice that in the patch notes |
| 12:21.11 | VersusSA | only 1-59 |
| 12:21.18 | kenlyric | well, that's when it's needed |
| 12:21.24 | sag_ich_nicht | because sylvanaar_work fails |
| 12:21.26 | kenlyric | since you level past your weapons now |
| 12:21.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail sylvanaar_work |
| 12:21.30 | purl | You suck at everything in life, sylvanaar_work. I hate you because you fail. |
| 12:21.39 | VersusSA | i trained bow skill with the legendary bow during kael'thas :P |
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| 12:21.46 | sylvanaar_work | =) |
| 12:21.47 | Grum | sag_ich_nicht: why are you stupid?! |
| 12:21.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ~emulate sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:22.00 | purl | because i am retarded |
| 12:22.07 | Grum | bwhaha |
| 12:22.08 | sylvanaar_work | rofl |
| 12:22.09 | kenlyric | no, anyone in EU who still updates on monday night/tuesday has serious issues, because they've forgotten where that's broken every other time there's an API change |
| 12:22.12 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65719 10BigWigs_KalecgosPortals/ (. BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.lua): BigWigs_KalecgosPortals: tweaks |
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| 12:25.22 | mitch0 | I wonder how many typos will I make during the spellname -> spellid translation ;) |
| 12:26.01 | Matrix110 | 17 |
| 12:26.38 | kenlyric | silent resolve on levitate. Finally |
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| 12:27.48 | CIA-9 | 03cwdg * r65720 10FlightHUD/ (FlightHUD.toc Locale-zhCN.lua): FlightHUD:-- add zhCN locales |
| 12:28.47 | VersusSA | multi-shot with cc, best change. |
| 12:29.09 | Aiiane | nah |
| 12:29.17 | Aiiane | avenger's shield with cc is the best :P |
| 12:29.19 | Zyndrome | ah, first EU 2.3.3>2.4 patch mirror |
| 12:29.24 | VersusSA | lol |
| 12:29.25 | Aiiane | because it's everything multishot with cc is |
| 12:29.41 | Aiiane | but at least with multishot you could pull the mobs away from the cc's first |
| 12:29.49 | Aiiane | can't pull saps away before aggroing the mobs :P |
| 12:29.56 | VersusSA | hehe |
| 12:30.23 | kenlyric | silent resolve on all the others spells is nice, but I never even knew levitate caused threat |
| 12:30.34 | Antiarc | Most everything causes threat |
| 12:30.38 | Antiarc | Levitate is probably ~55 threat |
| 12:30.41 | kenlyric | how would you even calculate threat on that? |
| 12:30.45 | Antiarc | Which really isn't worth modeling |
| 12:30.45 | kenlyric | by inches off the ground? |
| 12:31.01 | Antiarc | kenlyric: Bodypull, levitate, have a level 1 melee the mob till it pulls aggro, divide by 1.1 |
| 12:31.04 | Antiarc | That's levitate's threat |
| 12:31.48 | kenlyric | i'm stoked about shackle though, since I think shackle is something like infinity +1 threat |
| 12:32.03 | kenlyric | FADE WORK DAMMIT |
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| 12:32.11 | sb_ | haha :p |
| 12:32.17 | Killmore | Antiarc: for 2.4 I just have to update omen, delete threat-1.0 and download threat-2.0 ? |
| 12:32.17 | sb_ | MH trash? ;) |
| 12:32.28 | Antiarc | kenlyric: Shackle's affected by silent resolve now? |
| 12:32.32 | Antiarc | Bah, I'm gonna have to go model that |
| 12:32.45 | kenlyric | Antiarc: new patch note |
| 12:32.48 | Antiarc | Killmore: Yeah. If you use WowAceUpdater it should be automagical. |
| 12:32.50 | VersusSA | Silent Resolve:This talent now affects Surge of Light, Power Infusion, Inspiration, Spirit Tap, Blackout, Levitate, Shackle Undead, Touch of Weakness, Hex of Weakness, and Symbol of Hope. |
| 12:32.51 | kenlyric | bunch of stuff affected by silent resolve |
| 12:33.00 | Antiarc | Nice. |
| 12:33.06 | kenlyric | just to fuck with you |
| 12:33.12 | kenlyric | they didn't put that on ptr |
| 12:33.29 | Kaaosa | Haha |
| 12:33.31 | Aiiane | Killmore: more specifically, if you use WAU, just update omen. |
| 12:33.35 | Killmore | Antiarc: didnt, he update omen but didnt take threat-2.0 |
| 12:33.46 | Antiarc | Killmore: Threat-2.0 should be packaged... |
| 12:33.49 | Antiarc | Oh, maybe the x-embeds. |
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| 12:34.15 | Antiarc | No, it's in the X-embeds |
| 12:34.20 | Antiarc | So WAU should add it as a dependency |
| 12:34.29 | Aiiane | it updated fine for me, Antiarc |
| 12:34.29 | Antiarc | Anyhow, just install Threat-2.0 and it should work |
| 12:34.42 | VersusSA | WAU Mac OS X looks damn nice, need to get Leopard installed :\ |
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| 12:36.04 | CIA-9 | 03whitetooth * r65721 10StatLogicLib/StatLogicLib.toc: |
| 12:36.04 | CIA-9 | StatLogicLib: |
| 12:36.04 | CIA-9 | - toc 20400 |
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| 12:36.53 | kenlyric | next patch: The skettis prisoner for the quest Escape from Skettis has been killed because nobody rescued him. This quest will no longer be available. |
| 12:37.40 | VersusSA | they should have made the skettis prisoner Corki from the nagrand questline |
| 12:37.55 | foxlit | Anyone familiar with/maintaining MobHealth? |
| 12:38.26 | evl | foxlit: As a rogue, i work very hard at keeping maintaining mobs health at 0 |
| 12:38.31 | foxlit | [The real question is regarding a piece of functionality: can MH track health changes (I would imagine it does already) that occured since the last % health change of a unit?] |
| 12:38.51 | CIA-9 | 03whitetooth * r65722 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua RatingBuster.toc): |
| 12:38.51 | CIA-9 | RatingBuster: 1.3.6 |
| 12:38.51 | CIA-9 | - Updated toc to 20400 |
| 12:39.01 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: but i rescue him all the time D: |
| 12:39.03 | kenlyric | i know that ck rewrote it, and there was much fighting. |
| 12:39.12 | evl | who goes to skettis anyway, poop place |
| 12:39.14 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: but will you anymore when there's so little reward? |
| 12:39.23 | nevcairiel | was the reward changed? |
| 12:39.27 | kenlyric | no more potions |
| 12:39.39 | nevcairiel | if i see him, probably |
| 12:39.40 | kenlyric | well, patch notes say "tuned down" |
| 12:39.41 | foxlit | Well, gold == potions, but that's still silly :( |
| 12:39.45 | kenlyric | but I heard it was no more potions |
| 12:40.00 | nevcairiel | I'll mainly focus on the new dailys anyway |
| 12:40.04 | nevcairiel | screw skettis |
| 12:40.07 | nevcairiel | exalted for month |
| 12:40.08 | kenlyric | and this is the second time they've reduced his reward |
| 12:40.22 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65723 10BigWigs_NajAssist/ (BigWigs_NajAssist.lua BigWigs_NajAssist.toc): BigWigs_NajAssist: tweaks |
| 12:40.56 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r65724 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua: |
| 12:40.56 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 12:40.56 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 12:41.00 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65725 10BigWigs_KalecgosPortals/BigWigs_KalecgosPortals.lua: BigWigs_KalecgosPortals: more tweaks |
| 12:42.08 | Chompers | i updated addons this morning, read mmi-champ and find 2.4 is tonight |
| 12:42.14 | Chompers | nothing works now :P |
| 12:42.17 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 12:42.43 | Matrix110 | owned :D |
| 12:42.54 | Matrix110 | I remember doing that before 2.0.... |
| 12:43.06 | Matrix110 | or wait it wasnt even 2.0 |
| 12:43.08 | Matrix110 | smth else |
| 12:43.32 | evl | pkzip is a wonderful tool |
| 12:43.37 | evl | copy doubly so |
| 12:43.45 | Matrix110 | getting every rev. manually sucks |
| 12:43.54 | Matrix110 | so i went over to backup addons now and then :D |
| 12:44.01 | evl | But then, i got my new MacBook with Time Machine |
| 12:44.04 | evl | and it was all good |
| 12:44.19 | Matrix110 | you got a Mac nothing can be good |
| 12:44.19 | kenlyric | Matrix110: probably any patch with a significant api change |
| 12:44.22 | kebinusan | would be nice if files.wowace.com had a patch day flag or something |
| 12:44.46 | evl | Would be nice if wowace actually had branches that worked |
| 12:45.05 | Matrix110 | kenlyric nah when I did it was was different the patch wasnt even on Live yet in US and still loads of Addons got trunked with their PTR version |
| 12:45.54 | cladhaire | kebinusan: use the wiki page |
| 12:46.00 | Aiiane | kebinusan: or even just a popup warning you that you're updating addons to a TOC greater than your currently detected one? |
| 12:46.10 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r65726 10DrDamage/Locales/Localization-koKR.lua: |
| 12:46.10 | CIA-9 | DrDamage: |
| 12:46.10 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 12:46.19 | Josh_Borke | evl: wowace branches don't work? |
| 12:46.42 | kebinusan | cladhaire: I meant more for eu guys seem to get addons screwed by US patch day |
| 12:46.47 | evl | Josh_Borke: in the sense that when you do a firefox check for last updates you dont get a live SVN feed, for a reason. |
| 12:46.51 | cladhaire | ah |
| 12:47.09 | cladhaire | don't update on a monday night :P |
| 12:47.18 | Matrix110 | its not night here ! |
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| 12:47.54 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r65727 10Manasurge/ (11 files in 5 dirs): |
| 12:47.54 | CIA-9 | Manasurge: |
| 12:47.54 | CIA-9 | - 2.4 version |
| 12:49.09 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r65728 10Tracksw/Tracksw.toc: |
| 12:49.09 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 12:49.09 | CIA-9 | - interface to 20400 |
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| 12:50.55 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow * r65729 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-frFR.lua: GatherMate: frFR Update |
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| 12:55.11 | CIA-9 | 03whitetooth * r65730 10TipHookerLib/TipHookerLib.toc: |
| 12:55.11 | CIA-9 | TipHookerLib: |
| 12:55.11 | CIA-9 | - toc 20400 |
| 12:56.13 | cladhaire | so |
| 12:56.16 | cladhaire | ijust logged in |
| 12:56.20 | cladhaire | i'm on the dock in menethil |
| 12:56.27 | cladhaire | all the NPC's were in the falling animation |
| 12:56.33 | cladhaire | then 20 seconds later, they all fell into the void |
| 12:56.48 | evl | cladhaire: scientology in action |
| 12:56.49 | Josh_Borke | well why'd you go and do something like that? |
| 12:56.52 | Josh_Borke | that's not very nice |
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| 12:57.14 | baer_ | yeeehaaaaaar! got an internet-connection in my new appartement. :) |
| 12:57.37 | cladhaire | and now i can't do anything |
| 12:57.37 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 12:58.03 | cladhaire | ports to moonglade |
| 12:58.16 | sdouble | ports to work |
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| 13:02.54 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65731 10Omen/ (Modules/Healer/Healer.lua Options.lua): Omen: Add a default for Skin.Bars.NumBars, revert to Blizzard's MTs if oRA2 is not found. |
| 13:03.54 | cncfanatics | does anyone at all think that there is a little too much advertisement on files ? |
| 13:04.09 | CIA-9 | 03whitetooth * r65732 10StatLogicLib/ (LibStub/ LibStub/LibStub.lua StatLogicLib.toc embeds.xml): |
| 13:04.09 | CIA-9 | StatLogicLib: |
| 13:04.09 | CIA-9 | - Add LibStub |
| 13:04.15 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow * r65733 10LittleWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: frFR Update |
| 13:04.32 | cladhaire | cncfanatics: you mean you feel like a whore to the advertising machine |
| 13:04.35 | cladhaire | i know i hate it, as a user |
| 13:05.26 | cncfanatics | exactly |
| 13:05.56 | CIA-9 | 03whitetooth * r65734 10RatingBuster/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 13:05.56 | CIA-9 | RatingBuster: |
| 13:05.56 | CIA-9 | - Add LibStub |
| 13:05.58 | cncfanatics | its very noticable now I reduced my resolution :s |
| 13:06.04 | cncfanatics | 30% of my screen is filled with advertisement |
| 13:07.55 | kenlyric | there are ads on files? |
| 13:07.57 | cncfanatics | tons |
| 13:08.01 | [Ammo] | you can get rid of the ads by donating 1000$ per month to wowace :) |
| 13:08.23 | cncfanatics | I can also get rid of them by donation 0$ to my addblocker |
| 13:08.29 | cncfanatics | I don't do that though |
| 13:08.37 | Lukian | kenlyric, that's what I say to people, except it's more like "There are ads on websites? :D" |
| 13:08.43 | baer_ | is there a way to update my ace-addons via a unix SVN client? |
| 13:08.51 | jy | baer_: yes |
| 13:09.05 | cncfanatics | baer_, yes |
| 13:09.08 | baer_ | jy: i'm curious - how am i supposed to do it? |
| 13:09.11 | kenlyric | I didn't mind ads until they started making noise and taking focus and moving |
| 13:09.15 | cncfanatics | first: get everything from svn |
| 13:09.32 | cncfanatics | the svn url is http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk (for non developers) |
| 13:09.34 | jy | actually i want to know also |
| 13:09.34 | kenlyric | and adblock still doesn't block most google text ad frames, which I like. |
| 13:09.38 | cncfanatics | just checjout stuff you need from there |
| 13:09.43 | baer_ | ok, maybe a bit more for explanation. large parts of my filesystem are on a samba share on my freebsd box, but i'm playing on winxp (sp2). |
| 13:09.51 | kenlyric | I embrace the ad culture, just not the singing smily culture |
| 13:10.16 | baer_ | cncfanatics: a bit more explanation, please. |
| 13:10.24 | baer_ | you mean checking out the whole trunk? |
| 13:10.27 | cncfanatics | no |
| 13:10.33 | cncfanatics | checking out folders in the trunk, the ones you need |
| 13:10.36 | cncfanatics | eg |
| 13:10.55 | cncfanatics | svn checkout http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BigWigs/ for BigWigs |
| 13:10.57 | evl | http://tinyurl.com/23lwnu http://tinyurl.com/2h8kxx |
| 13:11.03 | jy | addons=`ls . |
| 13:11.09 | jy | `for i in addons |
| 13:11.11 | jy | do |
| 13:11.29 | *** part/#wowace evl (n=evl@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 13:11.33 | cncfanatics | no need for that complicated stuff |
| 13:11.41 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=evl@195.159.161.2) |
| 13:11.43 | cncfanatics | svn update * will do |
| 13:11.44 | jy | svn up $svn/$i |
| 13:11.50 | jy | ^^ |
| 13:11.53 | baer_ | jy likes sh-scripting. :) |
| 13:11.53 | cncfanatics | svn update * |
| 13:11.56 | cncfanatics | more then enough |
| 13:12.02 | jy | i prefer perl actually |
| 13:12.05 | CIA-9 | 03parnic * r65735 10IceHUD/ (. IceHUD.toc): |
| 13:12.05 | CIA-9 | IceHUD: |
| 13:12.05 | CIA-9 | - 2.4 toc update |
| 13:12.15 | baer_ | prefers python. |
| 13:12.34 | jy | ^^ |
| 13:12.42 | baer_ | cncfanatics: i'll try it, hang on. |
| 13:12.45 | jy | not a good idea tu test it today |
| 13:12.56 | jy | ill wait tomorrow |
| 13:12.59 | jy | :> |
| 13:14.08 | baer_ | hmm... |
| 13:14.09 | Antiarc | http://www.nationalpost.com/scripts/story.html?id=391879 |
| 13:14.10 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 13:14.10 | nevcairiel | updating now is bad for EU/Asia >:) |
| 13:14.18 | baer_ | the server doesn't respond |
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| 13:14.22 | baer_ | i got a timeout. |
| 13:14.37 | Lothaer | soo 2.4 out and ready lol |
| 13:14.38 | Lothaer | nice |
| 13:14.53 | Lothaer | Elkano u there? |
| 13:16.15 | cncfanatics | baer_: I'm reinstalling all my addons cuz I tried stuff today :s |
| 13:16.33 | baer_ | are you serious? oO |
| 13:16.39 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 13:16.44 | baer_ | hell! |
| 13:16.47 | cncfanatics | DONT try shit today if you're not in the US |
| 13:17.07 | baer_ | oO |
| 13:17.14 | baer_ | i'm not in the US. |
| 13:17.25 | cncfanatics | then don't |
| 13:17.41 | jy | unless you dont want to play tonight |
| 13:18.07 | Lothaer | lol |
| 13:18.26 | Lothaer | yeah if your if you play in EU servers you get the patch tomorrow |
| 13:18.41 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I'm a retard |
| 13:18.44 | cncfanatics | I'm downloading no-ext version |
| 13:18.48 | cncfanatics | time to start over |
| 13:18.51 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 13:19.02 | Kurax | I probably would get the patch by 1 week later, what do I do |
| 13:20.11 | Kurax | That's the *goodness* of being play on CN servers |
| 13:20.23 | nevcairiel | 1 week only? |
| 13:20.29 | nevcairiel | wasnt BC like behind half a year? |
| 13:21.13 | baer_ | cncfanatics: what exactly went wrong with your updates? |
| 13:21.15 | Kurax | They call that an "accident" |
| 13:21.31 | cncfanatics | baer_, all addons are for 2.4 now |
| 13:21.32 | nevcairiel | baer_: he updated to 2.4 versions =P |
| 13:21.38 | cncfanatics | EU is still at 2.3 |
| 13:21.41 | cncfanatics | so no addons -.- |
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| 13:22.14 | cncfanatics | glad wowace keeps old versions around |
| 13:22.30 | baer_ | ah, US-live-servers are already @2.4? |
| 13:22.34 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 13:22.36 | jy | the nice thing with svn is you can recall an old version, isnt it ? |
| 13:22.37 | cncfanatics | they update one day before we do |
| 13:22.42 | nevcairiel | US live servers are on maintenance right now, patching 2.4 |
| 13:22.45 | cncfanatics | jy; yep, and wowace also keeps old zips |
| 13:23.22 | jy | so baer_ , you can co a specific version and its done |
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| 13:24.10 | jy | i should write a portage app like g-cpan |
| 13:24.26 | cncfanatics | hmmm, files is slowing down, fuck |
| 13:24.51 | jy | making ebuilds for wow addons |
| 13:24.59 | jy | mmmh |
| 13:24.59 | cncfanatics | no thanks |
| 13:25.04 | cncfanatics | not even worth it :p |
| 13:25.13 | Kurax | woot, I just found zhCN patch was out already |
| 13:25.34 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r65736 10CoolDownButtons/locales/zhCN.lua: |
| 13:25.34 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 13:25.34 | CIA-9 | - fixed zhCN locale (if you commit a locale then do it correct!) |
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| 13:26.11 | cncfanatics | zhCN patches on monday don't day ? |
| 13:27.03 | Kurax | should be the next one |
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| 13:28.45 | baer_ | jy: ebuilds? sounds like gentoo linux. |
| 13:28.57 | baer_ | good idea anyways, i would support it. :-D |
| 13:28.58 | jy | ^yes |
| 13:29.04 | jy | too lazy |
| 13:29.20 | baer_ | got a box running gentoo (currently my "communications"-box) :) |
| 13:29.38 | renchap | use the wowace.py script, works fine |
| 13:29.39 | cncfanatics | how do ebuilds work anyway ? |
| 13:29.47 | renchap | ebuilds are a bit overkill for addons |
| 13:29.48 | jy | i'm running a pentium 200 mmx box with gentoo and its suicide ^^ |
| 13:30.09 | Arrowmaster | shows how much gentoo fails |
| 13:30.21 | Arrowmaster | i have a 166 mmx box that runs debian fine |
| 13:30.23 | jy | cncfanatics: files describing where to find the source and the actions to get it, install it, etc |
| 13:30.35 | cncfanatics | how is that needed for addons ? |
| 13:30.44 | jy | Arrowmaster: only suicide to install it and update it ^^ |
| 13:30.56 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: slow cpu's only fail because gentoo is a source-based and not binary-based distribution, but once installed it runs fine :p |
| 13:31.15 | haste | and you usually don't need to build gigantic packagse on a 200mhz |
| 13:31.25 | cncfanatics | btw, does anyone have general tips on how to get better performances out of WoW on windows ? |
| 13:31.33 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 13:31.37 | renchap | or you use distcc :) |
| 13:31.44 | sag_ich_nicht | get a better pc(and run no-ext addons) |
| 13:31.48 | jy | configure scripts still takes time |
| 13:31.53 | cncfanatics | I run no-ext |
| 13:31.57 | nevcairiel | no-ext doesnt really give you better performance |
| 13:31.57 | cncfanatics | now any real tips ? :p |
| 13:31.59 | nevcairiel | just login time |
| 13:32.18 | jy | more ram + ramdisk |
| 13:32.44 | haste | a 5G ramdisk :p ? |
| 13:32.45 | jy | sometimes accessing the files takes so much time |
| 13:32.50 | jy | yes |
| 13:33.00 | haste | moving /usr/lib to a ramdisk is fun tho' |
| 13:33.01 | jy | wtb MORE RAM |
| 13:33.08 | haste | instant loading of applications |
| 13:33.12 | jy | :) |
| 13:33.22 | jy | or ssd ? |
| 13:33.26 | jy | solid state disk ? |
| 13:33.29 | haste | I don't have a ssd! |
| 13:33.37 | sag_ich_nicht | runs a RAID 0+1 with S-ATAII HDDs with NCQ & a completely defragmented filesystem |
| 13:33.42 | haste | a SSD would be better tho' |
| 13:33.46 | jy | anybody tried wow on ssd ? |
| 13:33.52 | sag_ich_nicht | laughts at your access time problems |
| 13:33.56 | haste | booting takes ages with a ramdisk for the libs |
| 13:34.07 | Josh_Borke | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 13:34.07 | purl | lowers sag_ich_nicht's priority |
| 13:34.11 | jy | you dont need booting |
| 13:34.20 | jy | switch your computer on once |
| 13:34.23 | jy | and its done |
| 13:34.43 | jy | weak are the people who switch off their computer |
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| 13:35.06 | sag_ich_nicht | agree'd |
| 13:35.07 | jy | should get stock from his electricity company |
| 13:35.22 | Josh_Borke | why do you need to leave it on? |
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| 13:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | torrents |
| 13:35.42 | sag_ich_nicht | millions of them |
| 13:35.46 | jy | i paid once 100 euros electricity for 2 computers, 1 fridge, and light |
| 13:35.52 | sag_ich_nicht | has a 85% efficency PSU |
| 13:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | laughts at jy |
| 13:36.25 | jy | :x |
| 13:38.21 | [SW]Dodge | can i get sunwell badge stuff direct or do i require a special reputation or need to have done a quest? |
| 13:38.54 | kenlyric | you need to wait for the badge vendor |
| 13:39.12 | peragor | Anyone know if in 2.4, when an enemy is within inspect range and is NOT flagged for PvP, can you inspect his/her talents? |
| 13:39.18 | kenlyric | I forget which gate he is behind |
| 13:39.23 | kenlyric | err, not gate, which section |
| 13:39.27 | kenlyric | I think it's the third one |
| 13:39.41 | kenlyric | so, a few weeks at least, I'd imagine |
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| 13:41.01 | phyber | "Players will now be able to inspect other players via their chat link." |
| 13:41.13 | phyber | is the range limit on inspect gone, or is it useless since they have to be in range for this to work? |
| 13:41.35 | cncfanatics | I hope its gone |
| 13:41.39 | Birdemani | why do a few adds, like prat, have strikeout through their name? |
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| 13:43.18 | jy | kenlyric: once the anvil is done |
| 13:43.48 | kenlyric | I have 8 badges, so I never really payed attention to the badge vendor |
| 13:46.07 | jy | ^^ |
| 13:46.08 | evl | 200 :D |
| 13:46.15 | jy | 100 |
| 13:46.19 | evl | too bad all I want is the ring for 60 |
| 13:46.26 | jy | but i began farming them recently |
| 13:46.33 | Roblibob | <- 311 /flex |
| 13:46.40 | jy | BT badge stuff is bad |
| 13:46.42 | Roblibob | never bought anything for badges. |
| 13:47.01 | cncfanatics | why is it bad ? |
| 13:47.03 | cncfanatics | Wotlk is near anyway |
| 13:47.08 | cncfanatics | that way everyone can see content |
| 13:47.27 | Roblibob | let 'em see it |
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| 13:47.46 | CIA-9 | 03cwdg * r65737 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:47.46 | CIA-9 | Babble-2.2: |
| 13:47.46 | CIA-9 | -Update zhCN local db for Boss & Zone |
| 13:47.58 | Roblibob | not right that more then half population never get to see end game content. |
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| 13:48.31 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r65738 10LibTalentQuery-1.0/ (LibTalentQuery-1.0.lua LibTalentQuery-1.0.toc): |
| 13:48.31 | CIA-9 | LibTalentQuery-1.0: |
| 13:48.31 | CIA-9 | - toc 20400 |
| 13:48.31 | CIA-9 | - Removed 2.4 detection |
| 13:48.31 | CIA-9 | - Simplified CheckInspectQueue conditions |
| 13:48.32 | CIA-9 | - Added "target" (and "targettarget") as a returnable unitid in NameToUnitID. |
| 13:49.31 | kenlyric | not right that more than half population can't actually read or count to 5 |
| 13:49.41 | kenlyric | blizzard does have to draw the line somewhere |
| 13:50.19 | cncfanatics | well, they are |
| 13:50.20 | ownij | mage addons anyone |
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| 13:50.28 | Josh_Borke | spriest addons anyone |
| 13:50.29 | cncfanatics | they're doing well imho, near the new expansion make content easyer |
| 13:50.38 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r65739 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.toc: |
| 13:50.38 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 13:50.38 | CIA-9 | - toc 20400 |
| 13:50.38 | CIA-9 | - LibTalentQuery update |
| 13:50.41 | cncfanatics | MeltFaces-1.0, Josh_Borke |
| 13:51.34 | ownij | anyone one gorganash? |
| 13:51.39 | sylvanaar_work | srsly wtf is the problem with people - lrn2usevista |
| 13:51.49 | cncfanatics | anyone knows a nice addon to modify craftframes ? the default ones fail and are way too small |
| 13:52.00 | kenlyric | oh, I agree they're making it easier. but they still draw the line |
| 13:52.01 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar_work: you mean learn2NOTusevista |
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| 13:52.16 | chexsum_ | i still havent seen naxx/aq40 |
| 13:52.22 | chexsum_ | or bwl |
| 13:52.24 | cncfanatics | I've seen aq40, but not naxx |
| 13:52.25 | sylvanaar_work | if you use it lrn2useit |
| 13:52.29 | kenlyric | there's a good portion of the wow populating you'd have to turn off the encounters entirely for anyone to see them. |
| 13:52.43 | kenlyric | *population |
| 13:52.44 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r65740 10GridStatusGroupnumber/GridStatusGroupnumber.toc: |
| 13:52.44 | CIA-9 | GridStatusGroupnumber: |
| 13:52.44 | CIA-9 | - toc 20400 |
| 13:54.17 | kenlyric | GridPowerText, someone write it |
| 13:55.01 | kenlyric | better yet, someone convince past to return text values *of data he is already returning* |
| 13:57.13 | chiper | yeah, what ken said. most of the playerbase isnt good enough at the game to even handle encounters ten levels below them |
| 13:57.39 | chiper | that became clear when we tried a ZG pug a few weeks back. |
| 13:57.40 | chiper | the horror |
| 13:58.21 | nevcairiel | wtf o.O |
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| 13:58.27 | nevcairiel | srsly? |
| 13:58.52 | chiper | *nod* |
| 13:59.08 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r65741 10GridStatusHealPriority/ (. GridStatusHealPriority.lua GridStatusHealPriority.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:59.08 | CIA-9 | GridStatusHealPriority: |
| 13:59.08 | CIA-9 | - toc 20400 |
| 13:59.08 | CIA-9 | - Removed embed of Threat-1.0 (and associated libs) |
| 13:59.08 | CIA-9 | - Now detects presence of Threat-2.0 |
| 13:59.10 | CIA-9 | - Removed old libraries I kept in for older Grid compatibility. By now everyone should be updated. |
| 13:59.14 | CIA-9 | - Threat api needs GUID rather then UnitId |
| 13:59.14 | Arrowmaster | this is why im waiting for warhammer |
| 13:59.30 | nevcairiel | why? is it a single player game? |
| 13:59.31 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 13:59.33 | chiper | first boss, (I think it was tiger?), most of the raid wiped on his first chain lightning |
| 13:59.34 | ben | Is arg7 for CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL the trade channel always "2"? |
| 13:59.37 | ben | +for |
| 13:59.42 | Arrowmaster | so all the pvp tards move on and wow goes back to being pve |
| 13:59.43 | keiss | anyone tried keeping the ghosts at RoS alive and killing them mid-phase3 for example ? |
| 13:59.48 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 13:59.54 | kenlyric | most of the tards are pve |
| 14:00.04 | kenlyric | because most of the players are pve |
| 14:00.05 | chiper | there's tards in both groups |
| 14:00.11 | kenlyric | lol, moroes is hard |
| 14:00.17 | nevcairiel | pvp tards are worse tho |
| 14:00.23 | nevcairiel | and pvp balancing hurts pve |
| 14:00.24 | kenlyric | that's roughly 10% of the raiding players |
| 14:00.25 | nevcairiel | alot |
| 14:00.25 | nevcairiel | :( |
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| 14:01.01 | chiper | I stupidly agreed to heal a ramparts pug yesterday. 60 paladin that didn't know shit about her class |
| 14:01.18 | chiper | she kept putting might on me |
| 14:01.36 | kenlyric | what was she doing? |
| 14:01.45 | Grum | tanking? 'tagging along'? :P |
| 14:01.50 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r65742 10GridStatusHealPriority/embeds.xml: |
| 14:01.50 | CIA-9 | GridStatusHealPriority: |
| 14:01.50 | CIA-9 | - Removed embeds.xml since we are not embedding Threat-1.0 (or Threat 2.0) anymore. |
| 14:01.54 | SunTsu | chiper: She was begging you to engage battle, too ;) |
| 14:01.55 | kenlyric | nothing good can come of this |
| 14:02.03 | chiper | she was just DPS |
| 14:02.08 | kenlyric | oh, the horror |
| 14:02.13 | kenlyric | level 60 ret |
| 14:02.20 | chiper | yes |
| 14:02.23 | kenlyric | you probably should have meleed |
| 14:02.29 | Grum | the changes made to spells like multi-shot or chain lightning to avoid breaking CC spells have been removed. <--- lol |
| 14:02.48 | chiper | the group ended fine, thanks to a 66 hunter that came along |
| 14:03.05 | chiper | grum? |
| 14:03.29 | Grum | fun they removed the best fix in 2.4 @ release ;D |
| 14:03.29 | SunTsu | Grum: Yeah, aand I like it |
| 14:03.32 | kenlyric | Grum: I thought it was just for multishot |
| 14:03.34 | SunTsu | s/aa/a/ |
| 14:03.38 | chiper | fuck, seriously? |
| 14:03.48 | nevcairiel | Grum: fuck anti-skill changes, good that its reverted |
| 14:03.50 | SunTsu | chiper: Yeah, with bear's swipe, too |
| 14:03.51 | peragor | We should do what Conan did before he had someone party with him. He dueled them first :) |
| 14:03.56 | chiper | god damnit |
| 14:04.02 | Grum | nevcairiel: skill is one thing but the other is sheer randomness |
| 14:04.09 | Grum | 3 targets over which you have no control |
| 14:04.18 | nevcairiel | its a angle in front of you |
| 14:04.23 | Grum | its not |
| 14:04.24 | nevcairiel | just get the tank to reposition the mobs |
| 14:04.30 | Grum | not accurately enough anyhow :) |
| 14:04.43 | nevcairiel | yeah sure you randomnly fire 90 degrees to the left, sure =P |
| 14:04.46 | SunTsu | Grum: Well, that's something they need to fix, yeah, some days ago swipe broke a sheep behind me... |
| 14:04.55 | kenlyric | it's another pvp fix that's dumb in pve |
| 14:05.06 | Grum | kenlyric? |
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| 14:05.07 | Arrowmaster | lol at the jumping swipe for a while |
| 14:05.09 | nevcairiel | it was reverted, and thats good |
| 14:05.14 | Arcaia | multishot is a manawaste to dps anyways... the hurtful part of that revert is avengers shield and chain lightning |
| 14:05.19 | kenlyric | no, it was reverted, and that's bad |
| 14:05.23 | Arrowmaster | our feral tank kept breaking sheeps over 20 yards away with swipe |
| 14:05.29 | kenlyric | chain abilities should not break CC |
| 14:05.44 | Grum | if you cannot control which targets you will hit it should not break |
| 14:05.55 | kenlyric | exactly |
| 14:05.56 | chiper | yeah, shamen don't have many DPS spells to begin with, not fair to remove one |
| 14:06.01 | Grum | a 'full aoe' capable of hitting *all* targets in an area should break |
| 14:06.10 | Grum | but 'targetted' or 'limited targetted' should not |
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| 14:06.13 | kenlyric | the multishot revert makes sense, chain lightning does not |
| 14:06.23 | nevcairiel | QQ what you want, i think it makes sense |
| 14:06.26 | kenlyric | and the multishot is only changed because of pvp |
| 14:06.32 | nevcairiel | teach your tank to position mobs better |
| 14:06.34 | SunTsu | kenlyric: I think ones that can be controlled by skill, like a "working as intended" swipe should, some like chain lightning, which can't that easily be controlled should not |
| 14:06.37 | Arcaia | well from what i understand -> if you stack haste - its possible to remove chainlightning from your cycle - or is that fixed with the GCD change? |
| 14:07.03 | nevcairiel | --> teach your tank to position mobs better <-- |
| 14:07.08 | kenlyric | you can't really "position" mobs around a sheep |
| 14:07.13 | kenlyric | the sheep, you see, it moves |
| 14:07.20 | nevcairiel | so get more distance |
| 14:07.21 | kenlyric | oh, how it moves |
| 14:07.29 | nevcairiel | i know of no case where that is not possible |
| 14:07.33 | nevcairiel | and i've seem them all |
| 14:07.46 | kenlyric | possible maybe, but why necessary |
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| 14:07.47 | Arrowmaster | sheeps dont move that much |
| 14:07.52 | chiper | heh, I've had sheep wander into traps before |
| 14:07.52 | kenlyric | sheep are too short to be hit by arrows |
| 14:07.54 | Arrowmaster | i remember when they really moved |
| 14:08.11 | kenlyric | it breaks lore to have multishot hit them |
| 14:08.21 | kenlyric | unless you're fighting gnomes |
| 14:08.33 | cladhaire | lol |
| 14:08.35 | chiper | lol, that's the best reason I've heard yet |
| 14:08.44 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: see thats the skill thing, have enough skill to sheep faster, pull mobs far behind, and go nuts in AoE or whatever on them, just spamming stuff in there expecting to ignore your sheeps .. sure :P |
| 14:08.53 | kenlyric | skill? |
| 14:08.55 | kenlyric | this is wow |
| 14:09.04 | Chompers | http://mckoss.com/Crypto/Enigma.htm |
| 14:09.09 | Chompers | pretty sweet |
| 14:09.13 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron |
| 14:09.18 | kenlyric | ^ is WoW |
| 14:09.28 | SunTsu | i remember the first time I saw a mage sheep a mob. I thought to myself: "that's smart, you can kill a sheep easier than the raptor it was before" |
| 14:09.41 | blay | heh |
| 14:09.52 | nevcairiel | however your argument is flawed, obviously a hunter using multishot manages to target 3 mobs and hit them, now multishot should not target sheeps because the hunter targets those (even if the player doesnt do that directly), but chain lightning or cleave .. just hits stuff thats in your way |
| 14:10.00 | nevcairiel | lol SunTsu |
| 14:10.55 | SunTsu | The first thing I did with my mage when I got the polymorph spell was running around sheeping sheeps ;) |
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| 14:12.18 | Xinhuan | you know how a sheep has 2 shades of color? |
| 14:12.33 | Xinhuan | like the first time u sheep it, its like white, you resheep it it becomes a shade darker? |
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| 14:13.14 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r65743 10Recount/locales/Recount-deDE.lua: Recount: deDE update |
| 14:13.29 | JJSheets | My inner Grammar Nazi has died a little today. Patch notes say: "Over time the surviving elves fell pray..." *twitch*... |
| 14:13.35 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: You can even see a difference between a sheep and a sheeped sheep ;) |
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| 14:13.57 | vhaarr | JJSheets: nothing wrong with that |
| 14:14.06 | JJSheets | should be prey. |
| 14:14.13 | SunTsu | .o0( "prey" "pray"? ) |
| 14:14.13 | vhaarr | ah right |
| 14:14.34 | JJSheets | I suppose Grammar Nazi was my mistake... he's also my spelling Nazi. |
| 14:14.34 | vhaarr | JJSheets: have you done a character transfer? |
| 14:14.49 | vhaarr | the "transfer done" page has some amazing spelling mistakes |
| 14:14.56 | cncfanatics | just downgraded all my addons |
| 14:14.58 | cncfanatics | I hope it works |
| 14:15.04 | cncfanatics | JJSheets: UR BACK! :) |
| 14:15.04 | vhaarr | I don't remember them now, just that they were insane |
| 14:15.19 | JJSheets | lol Hiya cncfanatics |
| 14:15.29 | cncfanatics | why u've been away ? :p |
| 14:15.55 | Megalon | spelling nazi? http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7000/hanscq4.jpg for those who understand german :P |
| 14:16.08 | JJSheets | Internet problems, then got too busy to come back... only a couple weeks ago did I get re-interested in WoW |
| 14:17.03 | SunTsu | Megalon: Well, some spelling errors really induce physical pain |
| 14:17.12 | kenlyric | they do |
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| 14:22.53 | papyros | t |
| 14:23.03 | Uhuru | Hi, latest version of Omen gives many errors, am i the only to get that ? |
| 14:23.10 | Josh_Borke | Uhuru: yes |
| 14:23.11 | Joxe | no, just logged on to ask the same |
| 14:23.13 | Josh_Borke | Uhuru: download from wowi |
| 14:23.27 | Josh_Borke | new version of omen is for 2.4 |
| 14:23.33 | Uhuru | oh |
| 14:23.50 | Joxe | guess that applies to recount aswell? |
| 14:23.54 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:23.55 | Uhuru | i think recount & prat too they gives errors too since last update |
| 14:23.57 | nevcairiel | dont update stuff today |
| 14:24.04 | Joxe | ok, thanks |
| 14:24.07 | Uhuru | yes recount & prat |
| 14:24.09 | Josh_Borke | update all you want |
| 14:24.13 | Josh_Borke | just be prepared for breakage |
| 14:24.28 | Uhuru | i will download older version, thank's |
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| 14:26.24 | pcj | what does it mean when a mod is striked through on WAU |
| 14:29.46 | kenlyric | not updated to latest .toc number |
| 14:30.20 | JJSheets | Interface code for 2.4 is 20400, right? |
| 14:30.33 | keiss | yes |
| 14:30.36 | JJSheets | thanks |
| 14:31.25 | pcj | ty |
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| 14:33.53 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r65744 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 14:33.53 | CIA-9 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:33.53 | CIA-9 | - zhTW update |
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| 14:38.42 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r65745 10Manasurge/README: |
| 14:38.42 | CIA-9 | Manasurge: |
| 14:38.42 | CIA-9 | - updated README |
| 14:40.14 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r65746 10InfiniBar-2.0/InfiniBar-2.0.toc: InfiniBar-2.0 - Updated TOC for 2.4 |
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| 14:43.49 | baer_ | ok, problem. |
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| 14:44.02 | Zeksie | is back -( sleep )- gone 11 hr 40 min 18 s |
| 14:44.23 | Hobby | with? |
| 14:44.24 | baer_ | i recently updated and i usually play on EU servers. |
| 14:44.42 | nevcairiel | i guess you roll back that upgrade |
| 14:44.44 | nevcairiel | or dont play today |
| 14:44.45 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:44.46 | Apoco | ^ |
| 14:44.57 | baer_ | nevcairiel: how do i revert with svn? :) |
| 14:44.59 | baer_ | or WAU |
| 14:45.01 | Hobby | id you used WAU it created a backup for this this reason :) |
| 14:45.07 | Hobby | if* |
| 14:45.10 | Apoco | YAR |
| 14:45.12 | Apoco | BACKUPS FTW |
| 14:45.23 | Apoco | doesnt matter the servers will be crashing all day anyways |
| 14:45.47 | Apoco | ooo wtf |
| 14:45.48 | Hobby | Apoco that seems a bit optimisitic |
| 14:45.51 | Zeksie | don't update so much if you're on euro servers tho. at least until tomorrow. |
| 14:45.55 | Apoco | I have a "Development" tab |
| 14:45.56 | Hobby | I doubt they'll even come back up |
| 14:45.59 | Apoco | in my server select screen |
| 14:46.10 | nevcairiel | Apoco: yeah but you dont get servers |
| 14:46.14 | Apoco | boooo |
| 14:46.26 | SunTsu | Good to know, I hope my updates 7 hours ago didn't break much |
| 14:46.38 | Hobby | baer_: Did you see how to revert using WAU? |
| 14:46.46 | Hobby | assuming that's what you used to update |
| 14:46.46 | baer_ | Hobby: no. |
| 14:46.57 | baer_ | Hobby: your assumption is right. :) |
| 14:47.01 | Hobby | under file, there's an undo last update |
| 14:47.04 | Hobby | viola :) |
| 14:47.57 | kenlyric | that works? |
| 14:47.58 | baer_ | file? |
| 14:48.01 | kenlyric | I thought that was just for show |
| 14:48.23 | baer_ | Hobby: sorry, there's no such option. |
| 14:48.31 | kenlyric | oh yeah, it's not even there anymore |
| 14:48.38 | Hobby | it does on mine...but I grabbed the source and customized the updater several months ago, not sure if that was my change or not :/ |
| 14:48.54 | kenlyric | it still makes the /gz backup for no reason, but the function to use it isn't there. |
| 14:48.58 | kenlyric | I should see what's in those files |
| 14:49.14 | Hobby | oh yeah mine's making incremental rar's |
| 14:49.18 | kenlyric | xml |
| 14:49.19 | Hobby | so obviously my change |
| 14:49.37 | baer_ | well, with svn it should be possible to revert to some older revision, right? |
| 14:49.39 | kenlyric | ooh, the xml files show library dependancies |
| 14:50.08 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65747 10aX_RaidStatus/aX_RaidStatus.toc: |
| 14:50.08 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus(Ace3): |
| 14:50.08 | CIA-9 | - Updated TOC |
| 14:50.16 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65748 10aX_RaidStatusConfig/aX_RaidStatusConfig.toc: |
| 14:50.16 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatusConfig: |
| 14:50.17 | CIA-9 | - Updated TOC |
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| 14:50.35 | CIA-9 | 03wobin * r65749 10Xparky/ (Bar.lua Xparky.lua): |
| 14:50.35 | CIA-9 | Xparky - Drycoded funky attach to specified frame on nearest side depending on orientation of bar code added. |
| 14:50.35 | CIA-9 | (Does not actually attach.) |
| 14:50.35 | Hobby | baer_: how many addons do you have? |
| 14:50.45 | [SW]Dodge | Message: ...ddOns\Omen\Libs\Threat-2.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua line 706: attempt to call global 'GetSpellInfo' (a nil value) |
| 14:50.47 | cncfanatics | anyone know a decent craftui replacement addon ? |
| 14:50.48 | JJSheets | baer_, yes, you just revert, or update to a specific revision. Trouble is you'll have to figure out what revision for each of em. |
| 14:50.50 | cncfanatics | the default craftui fails |
| 14:50.50 | [SW]Dodge | böööh |
| 14:51.37 | baer_ | damnit. |
| 14:51.40 | baer_ | Hobby: > 50. |
| 14:52.31 | Hobby | Then as JJ said, it will be a pain :/ |
| 14:52.32 | Apoco | does anyone have a list of events that are fired within COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED? |
| 14:52.43 | JJSheets | Today is the day I shave my head. |
| 14:52.54 | Hobby | Should I look at adding my working backup rar functionality into the current updater? |
| 14:53.03 | JJSheets | Matter of fact, I gotta go get to it about now... |
| 14:53.39 | JJSheets | is away: I'm shaving me HEAD! |
| 14:54.14 | Hobby | Apoco I think the DBM creator had them listed out, one sec |
| 14:54.31 | Hobby | This what you're after: http://www.deadlybossmods.com/events.php ? |
| 14:54.52 | Apoco | tyvm |
| 14:54.56 | Hobby | np |
| 14:55.44 | Hobby | Oh, did they fix the flight master in Arathi (horde) in 2.4? |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r65750 10Tracksw/README: |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-9 | - added README |
| 14:56.49 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: do you mean something like skillet? |
| 14:58.30 | Hobby | Agreed, I'd recommend it, though I do get UI lag using it while crafting :( |
| 14:59.42 | Hobby | Anyone else have issues with Skillet freezing the UI for a moment at the end of each craft...assuming it's because of it scanning bags/bank for the updated craftable counts? |
| 14:59.50 | SunTsu | Hobby: Yeah |
| 15:00.07 | SunTsu | but still the best one I've seen yet |
| 15:00.11 | Hobby | Are you using OneStorage as well, or one of the others? |
| 15:00.18 | SunTsu | Hobby: Baggins |
| 15:00.25 | Hobby | Agreed, just wondering if I can fix that portion |
| 15:00.35 | SunTsu | And ArkInventory and er characterInfo ;) |
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| 15:00.48 | keiss | "A preview image is required for this category but was not attached." ... sigh |
| 15:01.02 | Hobby | Ah, hmm, I'll have to take a look....since you're crafting it doesn't seem like it needs to refresh counts until you're finished with your current batch, unless I'm mising something |
| 15:01.37 | CIA-9 | 03grayhoof * r65751 10sct/sct.lua: sct: Fixed timer call |
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| 15:04.32 | Hobby | SunTsu: In Jira there's 2 people saying switching to BankItems resolved the lockup during crafting...I'll gvie that a go when the servers are back up |
| 15:05.07 | SunTsu | Hobby: Switching from what? |
| 15:05.41 | Hobby | one didn't say, one had bagsync and oneview/onestorage |
| 15:05.48 | sag_ich_nicht | calculates the best possible human ret paladin equip for the 1000th time |
| 15:05.51 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 15:05.57 | sag_ich_nicht | fucking stupid shitty stupid argh |
| 15:06.00 | sag_ich_nicht | haet equip |
| 15:06.10 | kenlyric | I wish there was a way to turn off akrinv's alt storage without alse breaking it |
| 15:06.44 | kenlyric | *also |
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| 15:11.18 | Matrix110 | Join as Party = max 5ppl or upto 40? |
| 15:11.21 | Matrix110 | for AV |
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| 15:11.43 | Hobby | full raid join |
| 15:12.20 | Hobby | I assume that method uses the same premade matching system as the other BGs, which I really want to hop into if so |
| 15:12.48 | cncfanatics | fully premade guild AV = win |
| 15:13.02 | Matrix110 | well |
| 15:13.08 | Matrix110 | you are not he only one using it:P |
| 15:13.22 | Matrix110 | and i hope they use matchmaking system |
| 15:13.35 | Hobby | that all depends on how the match system is tuned I guess |
| 15:13.39 | Matrix110 | yeah |
| 15:13.51 | Matrix110 | because random av vs guild premade=no fun :P |
| 15:13.52 | Hobby | how long it tolerates you waiting before matching with a pug |
| 15:14.38 | Pkekyo| | LMFAO http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh130/georgecaroe/vsGM.jpg <--- my guildies in a 5v5 arena vs a GM |
| 15:14.51 | Mudkipz | pwned |
| 15:14.59 | Matrix110 | nooooooooooooooo |
| 15:15.00 | Matrix110 | Skull of Guldan: This item now shares its cooldown with other similar trinkets. |
| 15:15.20 | Mudkipz | is that a shadow chiken? |
| 15:15.20 | Mudkipz | omfgt |
| 15:15.23 | Pkekyo| | that would've been the coolest arenamatch ever |
| 15:15.25 | Pkekyo| | indeed Mudkipz |
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| 15:15.31 | Mudkipz | do want |
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| 15:17.16 | Kazie | Anyone having trouble with expanding their chats with MiniChat? |
| 15:17.26 | Matrix110 | lame |
| 15:17.33 | Pkekyo| | bwahahahah |
| 15:17.33 | Pkekyo| | girl that used to be in my class lost her drivers license xD |
| 15:17.34 | Matrix110 | The Clockwork Rocket Bot can no longer be buffed. mine always won! |
| 15:17.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 15:18.02 | sag_ich_nicht | link to patchnotes? am on a laggy connection can't properly scroll up altho they probably are already linked somewhere |
| 15:18.11 | Matrix110 | http://www.mmo-champion.com/#post_pnotes |
| 15:18.32 | Matrix110 | but nothing really changed to the latest ptr notes |
| 15:19.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't care, i want to read it all anyway :P |
| 15:20.03 | Zeksie | is there a diff anywhere of the ptr->real patch notes? |
| 15:20.13 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 15:20.20 | Matrix110 | www.mmo-champion.com |
| 15:20.26 | Zeksie | k :) |
| 15:21.17 | Srosh | They pulled the changes to multi-target abilities not breaking sheep. |
| 15:21.40 | Matrix110 | which is good |
| 15:21.54 | ZealotOnAStick | so is FuXPFu deprecated now? |
| 15:22.19 | Matrix110 | ZealotOnAStick it didnt work for me since ages so I guess |
| 15:22.21 | SunTsu | ZealotOnAStick: XParky doesn't seem to be working again to full extend |
| 15:22.40 | ZealotOnAStick | it worked for me as of Yesterday (FuXPFu) |
| 15:22.43 | Matrix110 | (main cause is Fubar3 i think) |
| 15:23.00 | Matrix110 | then Iam doing something wrong or it doesnt like the above |
| 15:27.34 | ZealotOnAStick | *shrug* |
| 15:27.48 | ZealotOnAStick | I'll respond with: Yes. |
| 15:28.09 | Josh_Borke | please mod and delete these threads http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12104.msg192676;boardseen#new |
| 15:28.15 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12103.0 |
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| 15:29.00 | Josh_Borke | seriously, that's ridiculous |
| 15:29.36 | ulic | did sylvanaar get is account stolen? |
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| 15:29.41 | ulic | *his |
| 15:29.45 | Josh_Borke | no, he just went insane |
| 15:29.53 | ulic | oic :) |
| 15:30.00 | keiss | Xinhuan: will you be putting GatherMate on wowinterface ? |
| 15:30.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Uhm. |
| 15:30.22 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd presume he has some reason for those? |
| 15:30.52 | kenlyric | that's helpful advice josh_borke :) |
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| 15:37.36 | CIA-9 | 03whitetooth * r65752 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 15:37.36 | CIA-9 | StatLogicLib: |
| 15:37.36 | CIA-9 | - 2.4.0: Demonic Knowledge: It will now increase your spell damage by an amount equal to 4/8/12%, down from 5/10/15%. |
| 15:37.36 | CIA-9 | - 2.4.0: Nurturing Instinct: increases your healing spells by up to 50/100% of your Agility, and increases healing done to you by 10/20% while in Cat form. |
| 15:38.25 | cncfanatics | did sylvanaar go crazy ? |
| 15:39.01 | CIA-9 | 03whitetooth * r65753 10RatingBuster/ (9 files): |
| 15:39.01 | CIA-9 | RatingBuster: |
| 15:39.01 | CIA-9 | - Fixed: Support for new Demonic Knowledge(Warlock) and Nurturing Instinct(Druid) |
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| 15:42.19 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r65754 10Talented/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:42.19 | CIA-9 | Talented: |
| 15:42.19 | CIA-9 | _ Update TOC to 2.4. |
| 15:42.20 | CIA-9 | _ Allow talent spells to be linked in chat, for any class and rank. |
| 15:42.20 | CIA-9 | _ Allow to import and export templates from/to wowdb. |
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| 15:43.03 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 072.4 * r65755 10Talented/: Talented: remove 2.4 branch |
| 15:43.05 | baer_ | anyone already tried "kalegcos" ? |
| 15:43.11 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:43.13 | nevcairiel | on PTR |
| 15:43.15 | baer_ | kalecgos, sorry. |
| 15:43.21 | baer_ | aaaah... :) |
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| 15:43.28 | baer_ | how was it? |
| 15:43.37 | Chompers | yeah, on live...wait a sec |
| 15:43.39 | nevcairiel | cool fight |
| 15:43.50 | nevcairiel | not too hard, once you get the tactis straight |
| 15:43.55 | nevcairiel | but with terrible with lag on ptr |
| 15:44.08 | nevcairiel | s/with/was/ |
| 15:44.12 | baer_ | i see. |
| 15:44.18 | Kazie | Anyone having trouble with expanding your chat with MiniChat? .. and for some reason Omen Returning errors on every move you make? |
| 15:44.32 | nevcairiel | Kazie: haha you updated to the 2.4 version |
| 15:44.41 | Kazie | I just ran the WAU man :s |
| 15:44.43 | baer_ | Kazie: pwned! :) |
| 15:44.58 | nevcairiel | never ever update one day before patch when you're EU or Asia :P |
| 15:45.09 | Kazie | I always did.. never had problems ^^ |
| 15:45.42 | Kazie | Well.. i surpose i can't do much but disable those two then .. |
| 15:45.43 | Zeksie | not heard about hte combat log changes huh? :) |
| 15:45.51 | Kazie | It's gonan be nice Zeksie.. |
| 15:45.57 | Zeksie | i know ;) |
| 15:45.58 | Kazie | Saw it on PTR.. pretty neat |
| 15:46.05 | Kazie | Now we can finaly throw out simplecombatlog :P |
| 15:46.13 | Zeksie | goto files.wowace and get older versions |
| 15:46.14 | Snago | This patch breaks more stuff than any patch so far except 2.0 |
| 15:46.30 | Zeksie | nothing will compete with 2.0.. |
| 15:46.39 | NeoTron | 3.0! |
| 15:46.41 | keiss | 3.0 |
| 15:46.49 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65756 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua MagicMarker.lua): MagicMarker: Removed 2.3 crud. Long live 2.4 |
| 15:47.15 | NeoTron | I just realized though.. when does EU upgradE? :P |
| 15:47.22 | nevcairiel | tomorrow |
| 15:47.25 | Zeksie | tomoorw |
| 15:47.30 | NeoTron | ah well |
| 15:47.35 | SunTsu | just wrote warnings about updating into two guild forums ;) |
| 15:47.36 | Zeksie | as always |
| 15:47.48 | NeoTron | I guess the wise will learn not to upgrade from files.wowace.com today :P |
| 15:47.54 | NeoTron | although |
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| 15:48.51 | CIA-9 | 03brimm * r65757 10MyThreat/ (MyThreat.lua MyThreat.toc MyThreat.xml embeds.xml): |
| 15:48.52 | CIA-9 | MyThreat: |
| 15:48.52 | CIA-9 | [DRYCODED] |
| 15:48.52 | CIA-9 | -Updated for compatibility with 2.4, changed to Ace3 libs and Threat-2.0. |
| 15:48.57 | NivFreak | gdi |
| 15:49.04 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r65758 10Links/ (16 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:49.04 | CIA-9 | Links: |
| 15:49.04 | CIA-9 | _ Update TOC to 2.4. |
| 15:49.04 | CIA-9 | _ Allows the user to select the type of links being handled by Links. |
| 15:49.04 | CIA-9 | _ Allows opened links to be saved in a link history, accessible via the right-click menu. |
| 15:49.13 | Kazie | Ppl are going crazy :p |
| 15:49.16 | NivFreak | wowjutsu actually removed the world bosses |
| 15:49.22 | NivFreak | I figured they'd just stop giving credit |
| 15:49.31 | Kazie | Anyways.. how do i get the older versions of omen and minichat? .. on files.wowace.com it just gives me the newest download :S |
| 15:49.32 | NeoTron | no need to break what I don't need to break |
| 15:49.39 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r65759 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua MagicMarker.lua): MagicMarker: Never mind, support 2.3 until it's out everywhere (2.4 support is still in there). |
| 15:49.46 | cncfanatics | Kazie: files.wowace.com/AddonName/ |
| 15:49.50 | cncfanatics | and then check the dates of the zips |
| 15:49.57 | Kazie | Ahh |
| 15:50.02 | Kazie | Like that :) .. thx |
| 15:50.08 | dylanm | Kazie: Pretty much copy the link and remove the file part. |
| 15:50.16 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 072.4 * r65760 10Links/: Links: remove 2.4 branch |
| 15:50.29 | SunTsu | I already love 2.4, so finally I can skill my warlock to demo for testing purposes without having to buy all the spells again |
| 15:51.05 | cncfanatics | hmmm, is there a way to change where bigwigs displays his warnings ? |
| 15:51.12 | cncfanatics | I want to make them bigger and more at the mid of the screen |
| 15:51.34 | Funkeh` | read the menus |
| 15:51.44 | Zeksie | plugins, messages, output |
| 15:51.45 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so super sexy MM is checked into head now? |
| 15:51.45 | NivFreak | :) |
| 15:51.54 | doc^blup | is there a way i can get infos from an EnchantId ? |
| 15:51.56 | CIA-9 | 03ulic * r65761 10LittleWigs/ (7 files in 6 dirs): |
| 15:51.56 | CIA-9 | LittleWigs: |
| 15:51.56 | CIA-9 | - .toc files bumped to 2.4 |
| 15:51.56 | CIA-9 | - Fix for Capacitus |
| 15:51.56 | CIA-9 | - Still need someone to edit the .bat & .sh files for MagistersTerrace, funkeh' has failed me :( |
| 15:52.50 | CIA-9 | 03brimm * r65762 10MyThreat/: |
| 15:52.50 | CIA-9 | MyThreat: |
| 15:52.50 | CIA-9 | -Updated externals for 2.4 (Ace3 + Threat-2.0) |
| 15:53.04 | _Poof | Wow.. |
| 15:53.08 | _Poof | Broken mod day, eh? |
| 15:53.12 | NeoTron | NivFreak: it's been there for days really |
| 15:53.29 | NeoTron | NivFreak: it has had 2.4 and 2.3 compat all along - just decided nott o remove 2.3 compat just yet.. |
| 15:53.30 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so no marking delay now? (I'm excited) |
| 15:53.33 | [SW]Dodge | yeah broken mod day-.- all the 2.4 updates while EU is still 2.3 -.- |
| 15:53.39 | [SW]Dodge | my omen is Dead xD |
| 15:53.49 | _Poof | =( |
| 15:53.51 | _Poof | That sucks. = |
| 15:53.51 | _Poof | =/ |
| 15:53.54 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 15:53.56 | NivFreak | [SW]Dodge: it's stupid that they stagger them |
| 15:54.11 | NivFreak | what time do .eu realms go down? |
| 15:54.19 | NeoTron | no marking delay, support for automatically learning mob CC methods (rather CC methods working on the mob), using unit ID's as the key in the mob database (locale independant) |
| 15:54.31 | NivFreak | hot |
| 15:54.34 | [SW]Dodge | in about 10 or 12 hours |
| 15:54.58 | mitch0 | heytho |
| 15:55.18 | mitch0 | are the US servers up yet? |
| 15:55.51 | chiper | it's only 9am. highly unlikely |
| 15:55.54 | Zeksie | look on the plus side.. we'll have to deal with a lot less broken mods tomorrow, cos most of hte shit already hit the fan today ;) |
| 15:56.05 | _Poof | Hopefully the "MobHealth" mod works okay =/ |
| 15:56.30 | cladhaire | TomTom updated to include Crazy-Taxi arrow and other goodies: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html |
| 15:56.45 | JJSheets | is back (gone 01:03:06) |
| 15:56.57 | JJSheets | Me Head be shaved, Mateys. |
| 15:56.57 | rubik | one weird thing i noticed is that after i patched up and tried to log in (knowing full well servers were down), it had patch date of 03/19/08 (or 03/18?) and it called the server grouping "Development" instead of "US/Oceanic" or whatever |
| 15:57.02 | NivFreak | man, there really are some long standing bugs that they fixed |
| 15:57.12 | NivFreak | no more spell rank retraining thank god |
| 15:57.12 | _Poof | oh? |
| 15:57.14 | _Poof | LKike? |
| 15:58.26 | keiss | wonders how to pull 28kdps on brutallus |
| 15:58.38 | Kalroth | keiss: Gear up, use consumables, loot! |
| 15:58.55 | [SW]Dodge | Crazy-Taxi arrow |
| 15:58.57 | [SW]Dodge | ? |
| 15:59.00 | rubik | blizz official patch notes page shows 2.3.3 info? gg |
| 15:59.03 | [SW]Dodge | @ cladhaire* |
| 15:59.07 | Hobby | When they fix pots stacking over 5 I'll finally be happy :) |
| 15:59.13 | ulic | rubik: yea, they are always slow. |
| 15:59.18 | CIA-9 | 03mitchell 07RangeCheck-2.0 * r65763 10RangeCheck/2.4/RangeCheck-2.0/RangeCheck-2.0.lua: some of the BS converted to spellids |
| 15:59.34 | cladhaire | [SW]Dodge: check the screenshots on the page |
| 15:59.37 | cladhaire | or play Crazy-TAxi |
| 15:59.38 | _Poof | =( |
| 15:59.43 | _Poof | Today is a sad day... |
| 15:59.44 | [SW]Dodge | k^^ |
| 15:59.46 | _Poof | No more NECB =( |
| 15:59.57 | Hobby | It's getting updated |
| 16:00.02 | _Poof | Oh? |
| 16:00.04 | Hobby | Alpha for 2.4 is already out |
| 16:00.10 | [SW]Dodge | a it is the arrow like in Carto_Waypoints? |
| 16:00.13 | _Poof | Who's doing iot? |
| 16:00.13 | Zeksie | CrazyBenny- Taxi... /blink |
| 16:00.20 | Zeksie | damn you autocomplete |
| 16:00.24 | [SW]Dodge | thats what i was waiting for :D |
| 16:00.46 | Hobby | _Poof: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/2786/ |
| 16:00.50 | _Poof | ya |
| 16:00.51 | _Poof | reading |
| 16:00.51 | *** join/#wowace Kemayo (n=kemayo@pool-71-103-174-37.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 16:00.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kemayo] by ChanServ |
| 16:00.58 | Hobby | not sure if NECB's "home" is curse or what |
| 16:01.04 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6616-NaturEnemyCastBar.html |
| 16:01.08 | cladhaire | Hobby: its not |
| 16:01.12 | cladhaire | its available pretty much anywhere |
| 16:01.13 | Hobby | ah ty |
| 16:01.16 | cladhaire | including wowi |
| 16:01.30 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 16:01.38 | Hobby | Has anyone tested it on the PTR? |
| 16:01.39 | NivFreak | they buffed arcane explosion eh |
| 16:01.48 | _Poof | WEll, I know Curse is the main place it seemed that Natur responded to stuff about hte mod... |
| 16:01.59 | cladhaire | he's not doing it anymore |
| 16:02.03 | cladhaire | Beladona and others are |
| 16:02.04 | _Poof | I know |
| 16:02.07 | cladhaire | hence what used to be, is no longer |
| 16:02.15 | _Poof | I mean about the "home" comment =p |
| 16:02.32 | cladhaire | and i'm saying, that's no longer its home |
| 16:02.35 | CIA-9 | 03brimm * r65764 10MyThreat/MyThreat.toc: |
| 16:02.35 | CIA-9 | MyThreat: |
| 16:02.35 | CIA-9 | [Drycoded] |
| 16:02.35 | CIA-9 | -Updated TOC file for an issue with SavedVariable names. |
| 16:02.45 | [SW]Dodge | is there an updater that updates from wowinterface.com (and maybe wowace too?) |
| 16:02.57 | Hobby | I just hope they don't take it in some completely different direction, I like NECB as is |
| 16:03.07 | _Poof | Same |
| 16:03.29 | cladhaire | [SW]Dodge: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8239-WoWInterfaceUIManager-Windows.html or http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8242-WoWInterfaceUIManager-GenericLinuxMacintosh.html |
| 16:03.37 | [SW]Dodge | thanks |
| 16:03.46 | kergoth | i hope it does gain some more flexibility, dotimer always had more wrt to what bars were shown where |
| 16:03.54 | Hobby | Sometimes I don't get banish times and such unless the unit was my target/focus when it happened, not sure if that's fixed as a result of the 2.4 log |
| 16:04.10 | kergoth | should be |
| 16:04.30 | Zeksie | entirely possible with 2.4 |
| 16:04.35 | CIA-9 | 03ananhaid * r65765 10Omen/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 16:04.35 | CIA-9 | Omen: |
| 16:04.35 | CIA-9 | - zhCN checked. |
| 16:04.35 | Hobby | Hope so, wasn't sure what bugged it before unless I just wasn't getting the cast in my cl |
| 16:04.48 | Zeksie | not bugged, just not possible/reliable |
| 16:05.36 | Hobby | I haven't messed with the CL in much of my code, but I'm assuming the CPU cycles for all mods that touch it in 2.4 should go way down? |
| 16:05.49 | Zeksie | should do yeah |
| 16:06.07 | Zeksie | used to have to do god knows how many regex on every CL line. |
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| 16:06.33 | Hobby | yeah I'm mainly .Net/web languages world, but I can't imagine it was cheap in lua either |
| 16:07.20 | Zeksie | should make the largest impact for ppl with slower machines when the AE starts |
| 16:07.37 | Zeksie | improvement rather |
| 16:07.39 | [SW]Dodge | cladhaire: does the updater require an premium membership? :E |
| 16:07.50 | cladhaire | [SW]Dodge: no |
| 16:08.12 | Hobby | I think it'll help on mine a bit, I'm waiting on the 45nm quad cores before I replace the guts in this one |
| 16:08.26 | Hobby | My main problem is loading screen time with these addons :( |
| 16:09.09 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 16:09.24 | NivFreak | I see primal nethers are no longer BoP in the notes, but no mention of vortexes? |
| 16:09.27 | NivFreak | did I skip over it? |
| 16:09.35 | Zeksie | both now bow |
| 16:09.36 | sb_ | same |
| 16:09.37 | Zeksie | boe |
| 16:09.37 | Hobby | They're BoE too, I read several times |
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| 16:10.28 | NivFreak | Prefered Location "Development" wth? |
| 16:11.23 | NivFreak | god my priest is going to be sick now |
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| 16:12.44 | Matrix110 | Hyjal trash will get alot easier now |
| 16:12.51 | rubik | NivFreak: yeah, i saw that |
| 16:13.09 | Matrix110 | 18k dmg cap instead of 12k dmg cap is nice<3 |
| 16:13.12 | NivFreak | Matrix110: just do to regen? |
| 16:13.15 | NivFreak | ah |
| 16:13.16 | NivFreak | yea |
| 16:13.16 | CIA-9 | 03starlon * r65766 10DebuffAlarm/ (DebuffAlarm.lua DebuffAlarm.toc): |
| 16:13.16 | CIA-9 | DebuffAlarm: |
| 16:13.16 | CIA-9 | - 2.4 updates |
| 16:13.52 | Matrix110 | i feel offended being a Mage that cant AoE better with better gear just because there is a dmg cap... |
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| 16:14.38 | Josh_Borke | ... |
| 16:14.41 | Matrix110 | its ok that AoE gets no bonus dmg after like 5 or 10 targets but capping the dmg totally sucks |
| 16:15.05 | vhaarr | Matrix110: What is this damage cap you're talking about? |
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| 16:15.23 | Matrix110 | Arcane Explosion is dmg capped around 12k dmg per cast |
| 16:15.32 | Matrix110 | 10mobs=12k dmg 50mobs=12k dmg |
| 16:15.39 | vhaarr | what the hell |
| 16:15.47 | Moddington | its neccessary |
| 16:15.49 | rubik | undocumented? |
| 16:16.05 | NivFreak | documented |
| 16:16.10 | NivFreak | in the patch notes |
| 16:16.10 | vhaarr | I know I've done a lot more per explosion with SoC than 12k, why can AE but not SoC? |
| 16:16.15 | chiper | Matrix110: I never knew that until this patch mentioned it. I feel robbed |
| 16:16.20 | vhaarr | s/can/cap/ |
| 16:16.28 | Moddington | cause you never hit the cap till lv 70 |
| 16:16.40 | Matrix110 | vharr are you using smth like parrot/msbt to summarize the dmg? |
| 16:16.44 | vhaarr | Moddington: you don't get SoC until lvl 70, what are you talking about? |
| 16:16.47 | vhaarr | Matrix110: yes |
| 16:16.55 | Matrix110 | well CoC is capped at like ~ |
| 16:16.57 | Matrix110 | 14k |
| 16:16.58 | Moddington | i mean for most aoes |
| 16:17.02 | Matrix110 | i dunno about SoC... |
| 16:17.09 | vhaarr | I've done more than 30k with SoC |
| 16:17.09 | Matrix110 | maybe its because you trigger more than 1 SoC at once |
| 16:17.18 | Moddington | each one has different damage caps |
| 16:17.29 | Matrix110 | well SoC might still have the cap |
| 16:17.34 | Matrix110 | but when 3 go off at the same time... |
| 16:17.37 | Moddington | just haven't hit it yet |
| 16:18.17 | Moddington | forcing us to create 100 new characters, stand really close together, and get hit by a SoC explosion |
| 16:18.23 | Moddington | to see what it is |
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| 16:18.49 | Grum | Matrix110: not true |
| 16:18.59 | Grum | i've seen SoC for 24k |
| 16:19.13 | Moddington | all aoes have damage caps, they're just different for them all |
| 16:19.17 | Matrix110 | well I dunno if SoC is capped... |
| 16:19.24 | Grum | lol |
| 16:19.24 | Matrix110 | i know CoC and AE is |
| 16:19.26 | Grum | they dont have dmg-caps |
| 16:19.34 | Grum | how can AE have a dmg-cape? |
| 16:19.39 | Grum | it must be stupidly artificially high |
| 16:19.43 | Matrix110 | 12k |
| 16:19.47 | Moddington | however, no one has recordedly hit the damage cap from an aoe that crit'd |
| 16:19.47 | Matrix110 | yeah really high :D |
| 16:19.53 | Matrix110 | (for arcane spec its higher) |
| 16:19.54 | Grum | 12k is low |
| 16:20.02 | Grum | how much is a normal hit with ~1200spelldmg? |
| 16:20.04 | Moddington | its an instant-cast |
| 16:20.06 | Grum | and what is the cooldown? |
| 16:20.10 | Grum | k 1.5s |
| 16:20.11 | Matrix110 | no Cooldown |
| 16:20.15 | Grum | GCD |
| 16:20.22 | Grum | or not even? |
| 16:20.23 | Moddington | so from 1s to 1.s, depending on spell haste |
| 16:20.26 | Moddington | *1.5s |
| 16:20.30 | Matrix110 | and a normal his is like hmm not sure i just see total dmg :d |
| 16:20.40 | Matrix110 | i think like 900 |
| 16:20.54 | chiper | is it 12k now, or before this patch? |
| 16:20.55 | Moddington | so for up to around 8 mobs, you're not hitting th cap |
| 16:20.56 | Grum | i think you need to AOE more targets =D |
| 16:21.09 | chiper | I know I've hit 10k at least in Kara on the AoE pulls |
| 16:21.10 | Grum | its easy to test |
| 16:21.11 | Matrix110 | Grum if i AoE 50targets i can do MAX 12k dmg |
| 16:21.14 | Moddington | with 1.2k spell damage and 900 base |
| 16:21.36 | Matrix110 | I do the same dmg when i aoe 10 and crit much or aoe 50 and dont crit at all |
| 16:21.38 | Grum | Hexlord, get a paladin to open the door, toss a constipation, wait a bit and PEW |
| 16:21.42 | Moddington | the cap is to keep people from doing hundreds of thousands of points of damage from one cast |
| 16:21.58 | Grum | Matrix110: SoC has no limit |
| 16:22.00 | Moddington | crits don't count to the damage cap it seems |
| 16:22.15 | Matrix110 | Grum i dont know if SoC has it... i just know MY aoe spells got it :P |
| 16:22.21 | Matrix110 | (orwell for Blizzard iam not sure) |
| 16:22.26 | Grum | i really dont believe it tbh |
| 16:22.28 | Moddington | they're adding it to all aoe spells |
| 16:22.38 | Moddington | and making sure they're reasonably high |
| 16:22.42 | Matrix110 | Grum second |
| 16:22.45 | Matrix110 | i go to deadmines:P |
| 16:22.45 | Grum | but what is 'high'? |
| 16:23.09 | Grum | i think 50k is okish |
| 16:23.12 | Moddington | what you get from drugs :) |
| 16:23.21 | Matrix110 | you could test it in Deadmines aswell Grum |
| 16:23.28 | Matrix110 | aggro 50mobs |
| 16:23.29 | Matrix110 | aoe |
| 16:23.29 | Grum | i know SoC does more |
| 16:23.31 | Matrix110 | once |
| 16:23.39 | Grum | you cant cast SoC with 50 mobs on you :) |
| 16:23.45 | Moddington | they've raised a couple caps because people kept hitting them in BGs and stuff |
| 16:23.57 | Matrix110 | you can cast it |
| 16:23.58 | Moddington | yeah, you can |
| 16:24.04 | Matrix110 | it just takes a bit :D |
| 16:24.09 | Moddington | get a priest to come with you |
| 16:24.14 | Moddington | PWS |
| 16:24.23 | Grum | then the priest gets aggro |
| 16:24.28 | Moddington | from what? |
| 16:24.32 | Grum | casting pws? |
| 16:24.40 | Grum | its ~900 threat :) |
| 16:24.45 | Moddington | no aggro from that, does no damage or healing |
| 16:24.53 | Killmore | yeah it does aggro |
| 16:24.53 | Grum | uhuh, wanna bet? |
| 16:24.55 | rubik | oh yeah.. speaking of BGs.. no more diminishing returns on honor now, right? |
| 16:24.57 | Moddington | hmm, interesting |
| 16:25.02 | vhaarr | it's not interesting |
| 16:25.04 | vhaarr | it's common sense |
| 16:25.06 | CIA-9 | 03silmano * r65768 10SellOMatic/ (SOM.lua SOM.xml SellOMatic.lua SellOMatic.toc SellOMatic.xml): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:25.06 | CIA-9 | SellOMatic: 0.91 |
| 16:25.06 | CIA-9 | - Updated ACE2 Libraries. |
| 16:25.06 | CIA-9 | - Major code changes to improve the addon. |
| 16:25.06 | CIA-9 | - Updated function to work with Titan Sell-O-Matic. |
| 16:25.06 | Moddington | lol |
| 16:25.08 | CIA-9 | - Updated TOC to match 2.4 patch. |
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| 16:25.10 | CIA-9 | - Renamed files to avoid loading the addon twice. |
| 16:25.12 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65767 10LittleWigs/ (littlewigs-lod.bat littlewigs-lod.sh): LittleWigs: fix bat and sh files |
| 16:25.14 | Funkeh` | ulic, __^ |
| 16:25.14 | chexsum_ | just prom the lock a few times then do it |
| 16:25.17 | Grum | its a 'pre heal' of ~1800 |
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| 16:25.29 | Killmore | ask your tank to make a proximity aggro and shield him.. watch the priest die if he dont fade or the tank dont hit the mob |
| 16:25.34 | Moddington | put it on before the aggro |
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| 16:25.54 | Grum | how long do you think it will take for 50 lowlvls to do 1800dmg? |
| 16:25.55 | Elsia | heya |
| 16:26.05 | Grum | i can tell you, really short :P |
| 16:26.08 | Moddington | lol |
| 16:26.09 | Grum | you *can* die in deadmines ;D |
| 16:26.26 | Kaaosa | PWS generates healing aggro based on the amount of shielding it does |
| 16:26.29 | Kaaosa | :x |
| 16:26.30 | Josh_Borke | grum: just take a paladin to get initial aggro |
| 16:26.33 | Moddington | I'm a mage and I used to tank it, i completely agree |
| 16:26.39 | Grum | Josh_Borke: yeah ofc :) |
| 16:26.44 | Moddington | yeah, why does the lock have to aggro everything |
| 16:26.53 | Josh_Borke | then you can easily test it |
| 16:26.53 | Matrix110 | hmm in stockades mobs hit to hard |
| 16:26.58 | Josh_Borke | i pulled the entire ship at lvl 60 |
| 16:27.05 | Grum | as paladin its doable |
| 16:27.06 | Moddington | lolz |
| 16:27.11 | Grum | but then again that is the only class which can :p |
| 16:27.14 | Josh_Borke | stockades would be better, they are close together |
| 16:27.22 | Josh_Borke | grum: paladin + warlock = test aoe |
| 16:27.23 | Moddington | so, lv 70 priest/pally and a lv 70 lock to test this? |
| 16:27.29 | Grum | Josh_Borke: true |
| 16:27.33 | Josh_Borke | all the paladin has to do is bop the warlock |
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| 16:27.41 | Grum | no |
| 16:27.45 | Moddington | the pally then gets aggro |
| 16:27.47 | Grum | paladin should get the mobs |
| 16:28.05 | Moddington | cause the lock would then be invincible, and the mobs would have the pally up next on their aggro tables |
| 16:28.24 | Grum | even casting PoM can kill you :'( |
| 16:28.27 | Grum | its means |
| 16:28.36 | Josh_Borke | that's what bubble is for silly |
| 16:28.38 | Moddington | presenc of mind? |
| 16:28.44 | Grum | prayer of mending |
| 16:28.48 | Moddington | ah, good |
| 16:28.51 | rubik | "In case you're wondering, WWS currently runs on 7 servers, with a total of 20 cores, 30 Gb of memory and 3.2 Tb of HDD. It handles 2 millions visits and 15 millions pages viewed per month" |
| 16:29.02 | Moddington | no, i wasn't, but thank you |
| 16:29.02 | Grum | wws sucks |
| 16:29.12 | Grum | frikkin paying for 6 minutes 'priority queue' |
| 16:29.13 | rubik | uhh... doesn't that sound like overkill in terms of hardware for that few page views? |
| 16:29.16 | Moddington | only 2 mil/month? |
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| 16:29.32 | Grum | i'd say staticly generate the shit out of some pages |
| 16:29.36 | Snago | Is WWS updated to the 2.4 combat log format yet? |
| 16:29.36 | nevcairiel | Grum: the queue was only that high when their servers died a month ago or so |
| 16:29.43 | rubik | (i totally agree that WWS sucks.. or rather the pay-for-me-to-host-your-shit concept) |
| 16:29.53 | Moddington | lol |
| 16:29.56 | Primer | this damn patch is stalled. Can't Blizz even get a bittorrent client right? |
| 16:30.11 | khangg | yay 2.4 |
| 16:30.16 | Moddington | is the PTR closed? |
| 16:30.19 | dylanm | Yeah. |
| 16:30.21 | Primer | "Your computer appears to be behind a firewall" NO SHIT! Just give me the damn file! |
| 16:30.22 | kergoth | the patch is being distributed? |
| 16:30.26 | chexsum_ | 93% |
| 16:30.26 | kergoth | vnc's to home |
| 16:30.26 | Moddington | ooh! |
| 16:30.29 | khangg | i'm already done downloading o: |
| 16:30.31 | Kaaosa | TTR closed? :x |
| 16:30.40 | nevcairiel | PTR and TTR closed |
| 16:30.43 | Grum | nevcairiel: ah but it was for quite some time |
| 16:30.45 | Moddington | *goes to dl and install the patch* |
| 16:30.46 | khangg | now my addons won't work :( |
| 16:30.50 | Kaaosa | Nuts. |
| 16:31.00 | nevcairiel | Grum: yeah they had serious trouble, but was getting better the last week or so |
| 16:31.02 | Moddington | yay for pre-download! |
| 16:31.02 | Grum | Primer: why use bittorrent? |
| 16:31.14 | Elsia | tihi recount is still listed as not updated on wowi :D |
| 16:31.14 | khangg | Moddington, yee |
| 16:31.18 | Moddington | aww, got 11 MB to go |
| 16:31.21 | Primer | Grum: uhh, that's what the patch thing uses |
| 16:31.31 | Moddington | khangg: what? |
| 16:31.37 | khangg | predownloading o: |
| 16:31.39 | rubik | "WWS client 2.4 is almost ready. ETA : Wednesday 8pm GMT." |
| 16:31.46 | Primer | you know, the "Blizzard Downloader" |
| 16:31.49 | rubik | for whomever asked if wws was 2.4-ready yet |
| 16:31.52 | Moddington | i mean i already dl'd it in my spare time a week ago |
| 16:31.58 | khangg | yeah i did too |
| 16:32.00 | Primer | WTF is WWS? |
| 16:32.04 | Moddington | i seem to have missed a little bit of it though |
| 16:32.12 | rubik | Primer: www.wowwebstats.com |
| 16:32.13 | Moddington | lemme check it for you |
| 16:32.18 | Primer | oh right |
| 16:32.20 | Moddington | oh, ok |
| 16:32.23 | Primer | heh, my guild even uses that |
| 16:32.34 | Primer | I didn't fare too well against Vashj as SL/SL |
| 16:32.41 | Moddington | rofl |
| 16:32.43 | Kaaosa | lol |
| 16:32.44 | Josh_Borke | Elsia: recount isn't on wowi |
| 16:32.53 | Grum | Primer: use wowwiki mirrors? |
| 16:33.08 | Primer | Grum: guess I'll have to. This download is totally stalled |
| 16:33.13 | nevcairiel | anyway, the WWS guy posted that there will be a version only by tomorrow |
| 16:33.15 | Moddington | 3MB left |
| 16:33.18 | nevcairiel | not 100% complete |
| 16:33.20 | Moddington | I'm doing fairly well |
| 16:33.28 | Josh_Borke | (12:31:06 PM) Elsia: tihi recount is still listed as not updated on wowi :D <-- not on wowi, so :-P |
| 16:33.48 | Moddington | i've got a dl rate of 77kb/s |
| 16:34.18 | rubik | stupid random question.. on lurker below, what makes the guardians blink all over the place and hit people? shitty snap-aggro tanks not grabbing them in time? |
| 16:34.19 | dylanm | Josh_Borke: Maybe he's talking about http://wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php... which is misleading in some sense. |
| 16:34.21 | Moddington | installing! patch notes time! |
| 16:34.24 | Matrix110 | the hit cap is even lower not raid buffed:-( |
| 16:34.36 | Kaaosa | rubik, more or less, yes. |
| 16:34.37 | Seerah | how is it misleading, dylanm? |
| 16:34.38 | SunTsu | rubik: Yeah |
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| 16:34.50 | Moddington | lol, they made it easier to skill weapons from 1-59 |
| 16:34.55 | Elsia | Josh_Borke: was refering to the survival list which isn't exclusively wowi |
| 16:35.00 | rubik | kk.. that's what i thought, thanks |
| 16:35.06 | CIA-9 | 03diablohu * r65769 10Proximo/Proximo.toc: |
| 16:35.06 | CIA-9 | Proximo: |
| 16:35.06 | CIA-9 | - added zhCN info into TOC |
| 16:35.09 | Elsia | http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php |
| 16:35.13 | Moddington | AE damage cap increased 50% |
| 16:35.16 | nevcairiel | Elsia: just notice Cairenn|afk that Recount was updated |
| 16:35.23 | SunTsu | rubik: the problem is, it may look like the tank got it but thats only because the tank is the first one to get aggro before it blinks away |
| 16:35.27 | Moddington | arcane fortitude has been doubled in effect |
| 16:35.30 | Elsia | i think clad is on it already |
| 16:35.32 | Grum | i wonder if WWS is actually profitable |
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| 16:35.36 | dylanm | Seerah: Because a user is going to look at it and think that Recount isn't updated. |
| 16:35.38 | cladhaire | the SG has been updated |
| 16:35.42 | Josh_Borke | where did that page come from? o.O |
| 16:35.48 | Elsia | thanks clad |
| 16:35.48 | Seerah | We're human :) It just needs to be updated :) |
| 16:35.50 | SunTsu | rubik: Some tanks don't get that, I didn't understand it myself first tanking one of them |
| 16:35.53 | Moddington | blink, slow and spellsteal have been reduced in mana cost! |
| 16:35.57 | rubik | SunTsu: yeah.. so i think some healers from the islands end up pulling a Guardian or two right off the bat |
| 16:36.01 | dylanm | Seerah: I agree that you are. Just clarifying for Elsia. |
| 16:36.13 | Moddington | Icy Veins gives 100% pushback resist |
| 16:36.15 | rubik | as they're topping people off or whatever |
| 16:36.28 | Moddington | mana shield gets bonuses from spell damage |
| 16:36.47 | SunTsu | is exited for tomorrow. |
| 16:37.01 | SunTsu | Even more exited than I was for 2.3 |
| 16:37.17 | chiper | you mean excited? |
| 16:37.26 | Kaaosa | No |
| 16:37.30 | Kaaosa | He means exited. |
| 16:37.40 | Moddington | lol |
| 16:37.42 | Zeksie | gone, left the building, exited! |
| 16:37.44 | SunTsu | Yeah, excited, right |
| 16:37.44 | chiper | is that a euphamism for crapping your pants? |
| 16:37.50 | Moddington | it's not that bad of a patch! |
| 16:37.54 | Fisker- | kd3 |
| 16:37.55 | Fisker- | i am you |
| 16:38.16 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: i uploaded BT3 to curse again, if that matters.. :) ( http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/11791/ ) |
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| 16:38.53 | cladhaire | done |
| 16:39.20 | Moddington | oh yeah, they added the other three items to all of the tier 6 sets, IIRC |
| 16:39.24 | Primer | I haven't read up much on these badge T6 equivalent items, but from what I did read, one doesn't just walk up to this vendor and get them, there's a substantial amount of questing involved? |
| 16:39.38 | kd3 | just walk up and get them |
| 16:39.52 | Josh_Borke | primer: the vendor has to be unlocked through dailies |
| 16:39.52 | kd3 | some of the loot requires the equivalent drop out of the sunwell and a sunmote |
| 16:39.55 | Fisker- | hi kd3 |
| 16:39.57 | Kaaosa | Doesn't the server have to unlock them? |
| 16:40.00 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Yrma |
| 16:40.05 | kd3 | the badge vendor requires an unlocking |
| 16:40.06 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: the t6 vendor is always there |
| 16:40.10 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Smith_Hauthaa |
| 16:40.17 | Fisker- | any eu patch download up? |
| 16:40.20 | Moddington | lol, WoWCombatLog.txt is easier to parse now |
| 16:40.28 | Fisker- | non-silly-background-downloader plx :( |
| 16:40.56 | Moddington | weapon enchants are now shown on character select screen |
| 16:41.16 | Moddington | aka twink rogues can now see their overpowered mongoose from before they log in |
| 16:41.46 | Moddington | a couple mods are now redundant, Blizz now has an option to show free spots left on the bag buttons |
| 16:42.24 | Vangual | only <time since release here> years late |
| 16:42.35 | cncfanatics | whats a nice and LIGHTWEIGHT combat log addon ? |
| 16:42.44 | cncfanatics | looking for one that won't decrease my FPS on my crappy comp |
| 16:42.55 | nevcairiel | depends what you want from a combat log addon |
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| 16:43.07 | cncfanatics | I want to see what kills me basicly :p |
| 16:43.13 | Moddington_ | anyone know how to fix this problem? |
| 16:43.23 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: use the built in log? |
| 16:43.32 | Moddington_ | for some reason I dc in IRC, and my old nickname is still existant |
| 16:43.46 | chexsum_ | just setup blizzards new log |
| 16:43.50 | Elsia | funny bug reports I'm getting now: "I did 700 dps in 2.3 and now recount shows 500 dps when I blow all my cooldown"... kinda hard to respond to that :P |
| 16:43.58 | cncfanatics | I'm not using blizzard's new log yet, still 2.3 in the EU |
| 16:43.58 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 16:44.06 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: then wait for it |
| 16:44.10 | Fisker- | WHY MUST I HAET? |
| 16:44.16 | cncfanatics | .- |
| 16:44.17 | cncfanatics | -.- |
| 16:44.18 | EvilGrin | cncfanatics, it's only 24hrs away :D |
| 16:44.25 | SunTsu | Elsia: No, it's easy: "Blame Blizzard" ;) |
| 16:44.26 | Fisker- | giev engb patches |
| 16:44.27 | Fisker- | kek |
| 16:44.30 | Grum | frisks Fisker- |
| 16:44.55 | Fisker- | fucks Grum |
| 16:45.00 | cncfanatics | Elsia: I also found my "dps" in recount weird |
| 16:45.04 | Grum | casts blessing of protection |
| 16:45.12 | cncfanatics | say, there are cases where someone has the most damage done, but not the most dps |
| 16:45.17 | cncfanatics | which is weird |
| 16:45.23 | Grum | why? |
| 16:45.24 | Fisker- | it's not a physical attack Grum |
| 16:45.39 | Grum | Fisker-: true but you forgot that i was also heartstoning! |
| 16:45.41 | Primer | bah, I don't trust these damn mirrors. Are md5's of files posted somewhere? |
| 16:45.43 | Elsia | not weird at all |
| 16:45.47 | Grum | *HAERTSTNOE* |
| 16:45.51 | cncfanatics | Primer: wowwiki |
| 16:45.53 | Elsia | see the problem with DPS is that there are multiple ways to calculate it |
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| 16:46.02 | Grum | Primer: trust mirrors? lol |
| 16:46.08 | Grum | they are just mpq files |
| 16:46.09 | Fisker- | that may be Grum but i was surely interrupting you |
| 16:46.19 | EvilGrin | Fisker-, http://www.patches-scrolls.de/world_of_warcraft.php |
| 16:46.20 | Elsia | there is the "it doesn't actually say anything new" way which just takes total time recording of everybody and divides damage by that |
| 16:46.20 | cncfanatics | Elsia: dps is damage / time ? |
| 16:46.20 | cncfanatics | how can you calculate that in multiple ways ? |
| 16:46.23 | Grum | Fisker-: i also had pw:s |
| 16:46.26 | Elsia | yes, but what time, see |
| 16:46.42 | Elsia | recount and many other damage meters use time as combatants time in combat |
| 16:46.43 | Grum | cncfanatics: time incombat? time since the first cast? time in fsr? |
| 16:46.44 | cncfanatics | total time the raid was in combat probably |
| 16:46.53 | chexsum_ | ignoring cast time before combat would change dps |
| 16:46.55 | Primer | Grum: yeah, especially ones with .de in the URL |
| 16:46.59 | Primer | loaded with ads |
| 16:47.02 | Elsia | i.e. if you spend more time in combat but do most damage your dps may be lower than someone who is briefly in combat but does loads of peak damage |
| 16:47.18 | Grum | Primer: right, you are also the person that clicks britney.jpg.exe fanaticly? |
| 16:47.20 | cncfanatics | Elsia: wouldn't it be more reliable to take the time the raid has been in combat ? |
| 16:47.21 | Elsia | this is in my book good use of DPS because it contains extra info: you can see total damage vs peak damage that way |
| 16:47.26 | cncfanatics | as you're suposed to do something if the raid is in combat |
| 16:47.41 | Elsia | well total damage already contains that information, one could use that time but DPS would be just another way to write damage |
| 16:48.00 | Kemayo | Healers. |
| 16:48.04 | cncfanatics | well, atm, low dps but high dmg = no slacking |
| 16:48.07 | Elsia | look at tital damage, it already gives you that information |
| 16:48.09 | cncfanatics | and high dps but low dmg = slacking |
| 16:48.11 | cncfanatics | as I understand it at least |
| 16:48.23 | Elsia | cncfanatics: exactly, so you can look at recount and notice who isn't spending all their time dpsing |
| 16:48.29 | kergoth | thast what i like about recount's graphs, i can really look at my dps throughought a certain fight. the overall dps i dont pay attention to, cause its pretty meaningless other than as a means of comparison, and even then.. |
| 16:48.32 | Elsia | total damage matters, not DPS |
| 16:48.34 | cncfanatics | k k, I see |
| 16:48.35 | Kaaosa | I fit the second category :x |
| 16:48.37 | CIA-9 | 03silmano * r65770 10ShamanWarning/ (ShamanWarning.lua ShamanWarning.toc Sounds/Clearcast.mp3): |
| 16:48.37 | CIA-9 | ShamanWarning: 0.5 |
| 16:48.37 | CIA-9 | - Minor code changes |
| 16:48.37 | CIA-9 | - Added clearcasting |
| 16:48.37 | CIA-9 | - Updated ACE2 libraries |
| 16:48.37 | CIA-9 | - Updated TOC |
| 16:48.46 | Kaaosa | Raw DPS matters sometimes |
| 16:48.47 | CIA-9 | 03stormfx * r65771 10cyCircled_Onyx/cyCircled_Onyx.toc: |
| 16:48.47 | CIA-9 | cyCircled_Onyx: |
| 16:48.47 | CIA-9 | - ToC -> 20400 |
| 16:48.51 | Matrix110 | Grum here http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4281/hitcapet2.jpg |
| 16:49.27 | Kemayo | Wait, "Updated ACE2 libraries"? |
| 16:49.32 | CIA-9 | 03stormfx * r65772 10cyCircled_VolGold/cyCircled_VolGold.toc: |
| 16:49.32 | CIA-9 | cyCircled_VolGold: |
| 16:49.32 | CIA-9 | - ToC -> 20400 |
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| 16:49.37 | chexsum_ | theres personal dps and encounter dps |
| 16:49.38 | Grum | i am just guessing your combatlog addon thingie fucks up |
| 16:49.55 | Matrix110 | no |
| 16:50.01 | cncfanatics | Elsia: could I suggest to have multiple calculations of "DPS" done and give them different names ? :p |
| 16:50.01 | Grum | yes |
| 16:50.11 | [SW]Dodge | ~wowalert |
| 16:50.11 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 16:50.23 | Elsia | cncfanatics: well some have requested recaps dps+ which is essentially DPS with time set to raid-combat-time |
| 16:50.30 | Grum | because 9 hits 13 crits for 8903 dmg means ~300dmg per hit |
| 16:50.35 | nevcairiel | Grum: AoE dmg is capped, believe it or dont, but thats just the way it is |
| 16:50.35 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 16:50.48 | Grum | nevcairiel: not on seeds O.o |
| 16:50.53 | Grum | or i havent seen the cap |
| 16:50.59 | Elsia | frankly I find it useless so I have been reluctant to add it, it contains literally no information, could as well turn either total damage or DPS off if you do that |
| 16:51.06 | nevcairiel | i believe everything above 10 targets is capped |
| 16:51.07 | nevcairiel | or so |
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| 16:51.25 | Matrix110 | And there is a max damage in total |
| 16:51.26 | Grum | hmmm |
| 16:51.28 | Leialyn | aoe damage caps are a fixed amount |
| 16:51.31 | Matrix110 | but no clue on what it is based |
| 16:51.34 | chexsum_ | encounter dps doesnt mean much - only total damage means anything there |
| 16:51.37 | Leialyn | that cannot be surpassed |
| 16:51.39 | Grum | a seed does ~1600 dmg orso |
| 16:51.40 | nevcairiel | yeah i mean like at 10 targets you reach that |
| 16:51.46 | Grum | 2400 crit |
| 16:51.56 | Grum | nah doesnt work out |
| 16:51.58 | Elsia | it's not a damage cap, it's a target cap though |
| 16:52.05 | Leialyn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Area_damage_caps |
| 16:52.06 | nevcairiel | nah it targets all it can get |
| 16:52.11 | Grum | but i've seen 24000 seed smacks O.o |
| 16:52.17 | Grum | hmmm |
| 16:52.20 | Matrix110 | my damage just gets reduced on all targets |
| 16:52.21 | Grum | that could be a chain reaction perhaps |
| 16:52.23 | Leialyn | no its bases on a fixed amount |
| 16:52.39 | Matrix110 | my crit from CoC for example just did only 618dmg on one target isntead of 2k |
| 16:52.56 | Gagorian | Grum: Seeds have a cap of about 13.5k damage non-crit |
| 16:53.17 | Gagorian | Grum: So with crits it can go up to about 17k but that's it |
| 16:53.18 | ramoz | [Ammo]: ping? |
| 16:53.21 | Leialyn | Arcane explosion cap was around 6.7k , now it should be somewhere around 10k for noncrits |
| 16:53.22 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65773 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Announce/Announce.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Announce menu tidying. |
| 16:53.26 | chexsum_ | omfg 100%!@!@! |
| 16:53.42 | Apoco | how would I check for a resist on this new combat event system? |
| 16:53.49 | Apoco | SPELL_DAMAGE? |
| 16:53.50 | nevcairiel | a full or partial resist? |
| 16:54.00 | Apoco | full |
| 16:54.05 | nevcairiel | SPELL_MISSED |
| 16:54.07 | Fisker- | takes Grum out for a ride |
| 16:54.12 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc |
| 16:54.13 | Fisker- | you here? |
| 16:54.15 | Grum | refuses |
| 16:54.24 | Apoco | trying to replac "Essence of Desire's Deaden was resisted by Essence of Desire." that line lol |
| 16:54.26 | Fisker- | wasn't asking |
| 16:54.27 | Primer | well, no checksums to be found anywhere |
| 16:54.54 | nevcairiel | Apoco: yeah thats SPELL_MISSED |
| 16:54.59 | Apoco | kk ty |
| 16:55.21 | Apoco | sourceName and targetName would be the same then? |
| 16:55.24 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 16:55.28 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r65774 10CombatFilter/ (CombatFilter.lua FilterRules.lua): CombatFilter: move SPELL_DISPEL_FAILED to dispel category (from spell miss) |
| 16:55.43 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65775 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tooltips/ (Tooltips.lua enUS.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: Tooltips: Apparently I gave this a menu. |
| 16:55.55 | NeoTron | so is CombatFilter the "new" simpleCombatLog? :P |
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| 16:56.16 | nevcairiel | CombatFilter just allows you to create a second and third etc combatlog frame |
| 16:56.20 | NeoTron | ah |
| 16:56.21 | nevcairiel | using the same formatting blizzard uses |
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| 16:56.35 | nevcairiel | (obvioulsy with its own settings for every new filter you define) |
| 16:57.22 | Leialyn | does it use all of the new stuff provided by the new api thats not included in default bliz combatlog? Or is there any addon out there that does? |
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| 16:58.08 | chexsum_ | blizzards combatlog got updated to use the new system |
| 16:58.09 | nevcairiel | people have been bugging me why blizzy doesnt allow more then one combatlog frame, so i just mocked up a config GUI for the blizzy API and that it was, the code itself is rather simple |
| 16:58.09 | Primer | "Over time the elves fell pray to a crippling magical withdrawl" |
| 16:58.17 | Primer | guess they only used spell check |
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| 16:58.24 | NeoTron | so other than Omen and Recount, what else on wowace urgent updating? |
| 16:58.33 | NeoTron | trying to put up some files for the less gifted of the guild.. |
| 16:58.33 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07lq2 * r65776 10FuBar_QuestsFu/: FuBar_QuestsFu: Branch for LibQuixote-2.0. |
| 16:58.43 | kebinusan | NeoTron: SCT / EavesDrop type mods |
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| 16:58.57 | Leialyn | do the rock addons still work? Or do they need a fix? Euro player here |
| 16:58.59 | CIA-9 | 03saroz * r65777 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: TOC update |
| 16:59.14 | kebinusan | I should see if MSBT got updated yet |
| 16:59.17 | Elsia | NeoTron: bossmod addons too actually if they used combat log parsing |
| 16:59.18 | kebinusan | ~msbt |
| 16:59.18 | purl | msbt is probably Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 16:59.25 | nevcairiel | the msbt author posted that he will have a version |
| 16:59.29 | nevcairiel | dunno if its posted yet |
| 16:59.46 | rubik | not yet |
| 16:59.50 | ulic | BigWigs & LittleWigs should be mostly updated I think. |
| 16:59.52 | kergoth | theres a beta, has been for a while, but he hasnt put up a new one on wowi yet |
| 16:59.53 | Leialyn | is there still a combatlog parsing lib used or do all addons parse the combatlog themselves? |
| 16:59.54 | Hobby | is SimpleCombatLog getting updated for 2.4? |
| 17:00.05 | Stanzilla | go away with parser libs please :P |
| 17:00.08 | Vangual | he's posted a 2.4 beta version weeks ago on his wowi portal that still worked yesterday on ptr |
| 17:00.08 | kergoth | Leialyn: theres no need fo rone |
| 17:00.13 | nevcairiel | Leialyn: there is no real parsing involved anymore |
| 17:00.14 | Aeyan | Parsing libs are depreciated now |
| 17:00.20 | Vangual | (msbt that is) |
| 17:00.20 | Leialyn | ok |
| 17:00.44 | nevcairiel | Vangual: yeah that was his alpha, he wanted to have a new version for release, guess he will post it later today |
| 17:00.51 | Elsia | parsers used to turn walls of text into variables, the new combat log provides those variables (and more) directly |
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| 17:01.07 | rubik | bah.. so no more scanning talents of opponents inside arenas eh? |
| 17:01.08 | Vangual | oh yea, alpha |
| 17:01.20 | kergoth | rubik: :( |
| 17:01.27 | rubik | that is major fail |
| 17:01.34 | nevcairiel | that is major win, imho |
| 17:01.40 | Apoco | nevcairiel> I'm going to assume targetName won't say "You" but your toon name right? |
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| 17:01.44 | Primer | man, I was hoping to have at least 100 badges on my priest when this patch came...I still have blue pants |
| 17:01.47 | nevcairiel | Apoco: yes |
| 17:01.47 | kebinusan | I cant find msbt beta on his portal bleh |
| 17:01.50 | Primer | only have 87 |
| 17:01.52 | Apoco | kk |
| 17:02.05 | kergoth | so its back to the old armory scanning gladiator type data, or going by their abilities, eh |
| 17:02.20 | nevcairiel | kebinusan: heh he removed the link again, just wait for the release later today |
| 17:02.24 | rubik | although i ran into a few teams that had talent specs exactly opposite than what gear they had and role the played.. was quite confusing. heh |
| 17:02.40 | NeoTron | ok so msbt isn't out eyt |
| 17:03.03 | Grum | <Primer> only have 87 <-- run one kara! |
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| 17:03.13 | rubik | but you can view cross-faction gear now as well? (if both unflagged) |
| 17:03.21 | rubik | (in addition to talents, i mean) |
| 17:03.24 | Grum | yes |
| 17:03.29 | Primer | Grum: I run it with my guild on Fridays though |
| 17:03.36 | rubik | that part is kind of cool i guess |
| 17:03.39 | Primer | might have to make an exception in this case :) |
| 17:04.09 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r65778 10AckisRecipeList/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:04.09 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:04.09 | CIA-9 | - Version bump to 0.68 |
| 17:04.09 | CIA-9 | - ToC Bump |
| 17:04.10 | CIA-9 | - Remove 2.3 compat stuff |
| 17:04.12 | CIA-9 | - Convert all smelting recipes to use spell info |
| 17:04.14 | CIA-9 | - Convert some of the Babble Tradeskill items in main file to use spell info (ie:enchanting, beast training, rogue stuff) |
| 17:05.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 17:06.01 | NeoTron | ~jwu |
| 17:06.02 | purl | JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917 |
| 17:06.17 | NeoTron | ~wau |
| 17:06.17 | purl | wau is probably WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 17:06.46 | CIA-9 | 03darkclaw * r65779 10FuBar_AtlasFu/ (FuBar_AtlasFu.toc Readme.html): |
| 17:06.46 | CIA-9 | FuBar_AtlasFu: |
| 17:06.46 | CIA-9 | - Updated TOC for 2.4 |
| 17:07.12 | Estil | lawl 2.4 today, I knew it :( |
| 17:07.19 | Estil | yay though, I can now get many things done |
| 17:07.50 | chexsum_ | addonpkg.pl ftw |
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| 17:10.09 | CIA-9 | 03gagorian * r65780 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.toc Readme.txt): |
| 17:10.09 | CIA-9 | DrDamage: |
| 17:10.09 | CIA-9 | - TOC update to 2.4 |
| 17:10.18 | Elsia | pretty fast ptr phase given how much has changed and give that it contained the whole cross-zone TTR test |
| 17:10.37 | Estil | yea |
| 17:10.43 | Kaaosa | Yeah, so either Blizzard did an A+ job, or a really bad one :V |
| 17:10.54 | NivFreak | or both |
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| 17:11.02 | Estil | probably both |
| 17:11.07 | Gagorian | You mean how much was changed and then reverted?! |
| 17:11.08 | mitchnull | :) |
| 17:11.15 | NeoTron | so is bartender 3 or 4 the one to use for 2.4? |
| 17:11.22 | Elsia | well there are minor things that I had hoped to make into the combat log that didn't but overall it looks good to me |
| 17:11.25 | nevcairiel | both, if you want :P |
| 17:11.26 | Estil | it appears the shaman changes were incomplete |
| 17:11.28 | Estil | but they pushed it still |
| 17:11.41 | nevcairiel | how is a change incomplete? |
| 17:11.42 | Elsia | is bartender4 feature complete already? |
| 17:11.46 | nevcairiel | because shamans are still QQing? |
| 17:11.51 | nevcairiel | Elsia: no, but it works :D |
| 17:11.55 | Estil | they appears to be more or less the same |
| 17:11.57 | Elsia | hehe |
| 17:11.58 | Estil | despite these changes |
| 17:12.15 | Elsia | i.e. would you recommend someone to switch to bt4 who is faint of heart? ;) |
| 17:12.29 | nevcairiel | Elsia: depends which features you use |
| 17:12.50 | Apoco | see this is what I don't get |
| 17:12.51 | Elsia | well mostly standard stuff, shape shifting |
| 17:13.02 | Estil | when it comes to mods |
| 17:13.04 | Elsia | i use it on 8 classes but nothing fancy |
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| 17:13.05 | Apoco | CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CREATURE_VS_CREATURE_BUFF is replaced with AURA_APPLIED? |
| 17:13.09 | Estil | I say "don't fix what isn't broken" |
| 17:13.58 | Elsia | I kind of like the idea of updating during patch phases... things break anyway, so why not refresh the blood some |
| 17:13.58 | nevcairiel | Elsia: whats NOT in: mouse-over alpha fading, configuring modifier based paging, configuring the selfcast settings .. mm .. and the new stuff i want to do |
| 17:13.59 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar * r65781 10RightWing/RightWing.toc: RightWing: TOC 20400 |
| 17:14.11 | rubik | combat log range is max (200?) for all by default now? since no more cvar? |
| 17:14.18 | nevcairiel | rubik: yes |
| 17:14.25 | Elsia | nevcairiel: nice, none of which I use currently :D |
| 17:14.25 | rubik | kk, ty |
| 17:14.43 | Elsia | i want new stuff though, always :D |
| 17:14.55 | kergoth | heh, i could probably use either bar3 or bongos3 right now, i dont use any of their features anyway, other than /kb |
| 17:15.08 | nevcairiel | the /kb owns in bt4 |
| 17:15.15 | nevcairiel | i need some button to open it or so |
| 17:15.21 | doc^blup | kb? |
| 17:15.21 | nevcairiel | typing /kb is so unintuitive |
| 17:15.28 | nevcairiel | its a key binder |
| 17:15.34 | Estil | I've always wondered |
| 17:15.40 | rubik | whoa.. bt3 has /kb? |
| 17:15.43 | rubik | who knew |
| 17:15.45 | nevcairiel | no bt4 does |
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| 17:15.47 | rubik | ahh |
| 17:15.49 | kergoth | ah, right |
| 17:15.49 | Estil | what is the purpose or meaning of /camp command in WoW |
| 17:15.59 | Recluse | it's to log out "set up camp" |
| 17:16.07 | kergoth | nevcairiel: any idea how hard it would be to make keybind bind macros based on their name rather than slot #? |
| 17:16.23 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: out of curiosity, in what way is Bartender4 better? |
| 17:16.26 | kergoth | right now if you delete a macro in the middle, you're hosed, you have to start over |
| 17:16.27 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:16.36 | nevcairiel | kergoth: i dunno, ask tuller, he wrote that thing :P |
| 17:16.40 | kergoth | hehe, k |
| 17:16.58 | kergoth | had to rebind all his macros last night cause of it |
| 17:16.59 | Recluse | can't multiple macros be named the same, though? |
| 17:17.00 | NeoTron | Estil: legacy support (i.e EQ and such) |
| 17:17.17 | kergoth | probably, guess it could go by slot in that case.. i dunno |
| 17:17.24 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: its more flexible and extensible, if you only want the same features, its not really "better" (well i like the clean Ace3 code, half memory or so), but nothing good yet |
| 17:17.52 | Elsia | rubik: actually combat log range isn't exactly 200, it's what the client loaded and you can see. basically UnitIsVisible() range, it's been measured to be roughly between 100 and 200, typically 150 yards but not fixed |
| 17:17.59 | NeoTron | less resource use is good |
| 17:18.06 | Elsia | i suspect it was always like that even for the old cvar 200 |
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| 17:18.21 | NeoTron | if it does in fact use half the memory that's a hot reason for me to upgrade |
| 17:18.22 | rubik | ahh ok.. makes sense |
| 17:18.23 | nevcairiel | yeah you didnt get log entrys for stuff you didnt see |
| 17:18.35 | NeoTron | can it "convert" from 2.3 config or is it from-scratch config? |
| 17:18.40 | Matrix110 | i want less CPU cycles! not less memory |
| 17:18.42 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: from scratch |
| 17:18.50 | NeoTron | ok. I assume it's just as easy? |
| 17:19.02 | NeoTron | bc bartender isn't exactly hard :) |
| 17:19.04 | Estil | I see~! |
| 17:19.06 | nevcairiel | Matrix110: i think it uses 5% less cpu cycles, but thats just meh .. couldnt really optimize it |
| 17:19.14 | Estil | thanks for answer |
| 17:19.16 | Matrix110 | good:D |
| 17:19.23 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: no contect menu on right click |
| 17:19.36 | Matrix110 | orwell i wouldnt care about cpu cycles if wow would make a thread out of the addon things |
| 17:19.41 | NeoTron | but ace3 config ui |
| 17:19.43 | NeoTron | ? |
| 17:19.43 | Matrix110 | one core for all addons <3 |
| 17:19.46 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: yes |
| 17:19.50 | NeoTron | then I'm good |
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| 17:20.12 | NeoTron | Just don't want manual mucking about |
| 17:20.17 | sylvanaar_work | mourns the death of CIA |
| 17:20.40 | NeoTron | Poor cia, TBSDS toc bump sudden death syndrome |
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| 17:21.54 | NimbleRabit | anyone know ofa fast place to download the patch from? |
| 17:22.12 | Recluse | your favorite torrent program :p |
| 17:22.28 | Matrix110 | idd |
| 17:22.38 | NimbleRabit | well I would still need a link to a good torrent |
| 17:22.40 | Matrix110 | every other torrent client gets you fullspeed easily :D |
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| 17:23.17 | Recluse | the patch client downloads a .torrent file i forget the location in the wow folder offhand tho |
| 17:23.47 | Megalon | Recluse: it's stored in the cache folder |
| 17:24.01 | Matrix110 | no |
| 17:24.04 | Matrix110 | depends on your OS:P |
| 17:24.27 | Matrix110 | for Vista (atleast for me) its Public Documents/Blizzard Entertainment/ |
| 17:24.36 | Matrix110 | and there in the cache folder |
| 17:24.40 | Zeksie | vista; public/documents/blizzard/wow/cache |
| 17:24.48 | Megalon | hm k |
| 17:25.02 | kergoth | wtb prat's altnames type thing for xchat, for the channel me and some guildies talk in.. always forgetting who's who |
| 17:25.03 | kergoth | :P |
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| 17:26.16 | SunTsu | kergoth: that what's /whois and hostmasks is for ;) |
| 17:26.17 | sylvanaar_work | im sure you could adapt it for xchat kergoth |
| 17:26.52 | kergoth | i know xchat is extensible with perl, probably wouldnt be hard to add |
| 17:27.07 | kergoth | perl or python i think |
| 17:27.36 | Matrix110 | btw |
| 17:27.42 | Matrix110 | how do you get to sunwell isle? :D |
| 17:27.48 | Gngsk | fly |
| 17:27.51 | Matrix110 | from? |
| 17:27.56 | Gngsk | wherever |
| 17:27.57 | Fisker- | Antiarc pong! |
| 17:28.09 | Matrix110 | so you get the flypoint without doing anything? |
| 17:28.18 | Gngsk | yep |
| 17:28.19 | kergoth | what's spellsurge? |
| 17:28.20 | Gngsk | least you did on test |
| 17:28.23 | Kemayo | Like the ZA one. |
| 17:28.28 | mytos | did they finally change it so you can fly through the dark portal now? |
| 17:28.44 | Megalon | kergoth: weapon enchant, proc 100 mana to everyone in your group |
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| 17:29.31 | NeoTron | mytos: that'd be nifty but somehow I doubt it |
| 17:29.40 | NeoTron | can't fly between maps |
| 17:29.40 | sylvanaar_work | you can fly from anywhere but outlands |
| 17:29.49 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:30.37 | Gngsk | kalimdor? |
| 17:30.38 | chiper | that'd be one longass flight |
| 17:30.42 | sylvanaar_work | yes |
| 17:30.47 | mytos | neotron: sure you can, you can fly from silvermoon to uc now |
| 17:31.11 | mytos | i dunno, if they make it so we can go silvermoon-uc i dont see why they cant just let is go anywhere |
| 17:31.15 | NeoTron | mytos: that is the same continent |
| 17:31.29 | grimman | Not quite. |
| 17:31.30 | NeoTron | you could fly to ZA from other places before |
| 17:31.32 | sylvanaar_work | yeah - i dont see why you cant fly from outlands either |
| 17:31.35 | NeoTron | I mean the MAP is the same |
| 17:31.42 | sylvanaar_work | but, you can just portal from outlands |
| 17:31.44 | NeoTron | there's no support fo fly cross-map |
| 17:31.45 | mytos | yeah, but the dark portal is in that continent, so techinally its the same |
| 17:32.00 | NeoTron | but the destination would be on another contintent |
| 17:32.09 | NeoTron | the UI doesn't support selecting it is all I'm saying |
| 17:32.13 | grimman | Outlands and Draenei/Belf territories are on the same map. |
| 17:32.14 | NeoTron | they should fix that though |
| 17:32.23 | mytos | technically though silvermoon and ghostlands is on another conitinent, its on the same map as outlands |
| 17:32.34 | sylvanaar_work | oh right, sorry, you cant fly from kalimdoor you are right (been a while since i needed to) |
| 17:32.36 | NeoTron | you know what I mean |
| 17:32.52 | NeoTron | when you look at the continent maps they are on different maps |
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| 17:33.15 | sylvanaar_work | you can fly from UC, IF, or SW and anything else in EK |
| 17:33.29 | NeoTron | but you can't fly from darnassus to IF |
| 17:33.34 | sylvanaar_work | right |
| 17:33.34 | mytos | it wouldnt be that hard to implement a flight path from outlands to whats in the eastern kingdoms, i could understand not letting us go to kalimdor, but atleast let us go to azeroth |
| 17:33.47 | NeoTron | mytos: no one is saying is hard/impossible |
| 17:33.51 | Estil | 2 serves are up |
| 17:33.51 | ckknight | http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/EUR/1155-8063~Baby-Octopus-Posters.jpg |
| 17:33.51 | NeoTron | just that today it's not possible :) |
| 17:34.03 | sylvanaar_work | yeah - screw the boats and blimps imo |
| 17:34.08 | chiper | yeah, there isnt any technical reason for them to not impliment an FP through the dark portal. they just havent done it yet |
| 17:34.32 | NeoTron | there is one reason - the UI to pick the flight point on the other side isn't there |
| 17:34.44 | NeoTron | flying to silvermoon from UC use the same flight master UI |
| 17:34.48 | mytos | well they need to get to work on that im a smoker and itd be perfect for me to take a smoke break between leaving shat and getting to sunwell |
| 17:34.55 | chiper | hrm, ok, good point |
| 17:35.11 | NeoTron | they could make it so the portal itself is a FP and you click on it to fly to the other side |
| 17:35.15 | chiper | but they could let you click on the portal itself and then switch to the outlands map |
| 17:35.22 | ckknight | so I'm wondering now what they will do in 2.5 |
| 17:35.24 | NeoTron | but what about from outlands ? |
| 17:35.26 | Recluse | bliz is anti-smoking! D= |
| 17:35.28 | ckknight | as far as UI stuff, that is |
| 17:35.41 | chiper | neo: same thing. click on the portal, it switches to the EK map |
| 17:35.42 | NeoTron | ckknight: change the chat log UI entirely ? :) |
| 17:35.45 | rubik | no 2.5 right? 2.4 -> 2.4.x -> 3.0? |
| 17:35.50 | ckknight | rubik: possibly |
| 17:35.54 | NeoTron | rubik: likely |
| 17:35.57 | nevcairiel | nothing is certain |
| 17:35.59 | mytos | theyre gonna hijack pitbull and make it default ui |
| 17:36.00 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 17:36.01 | chiper | rubik: that's never been confirmed |
| 17:36.04 | NeoTron | depending on how delayed / late/ timely wotlk is |
| 17:36.06 | rubik | ahh ok |
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| 17:36.23 | NeoTron | chiper: true |
| 17:36.31 | chiper | but assuming a november release date, that's a long time without a patch |
| 17:36.39 | mytos | i dunno, lore wise theyre running pretty low on stuff to give us in outland, they cant really keep pullin stuff out their behinds |
| 17:36.48 | Srosh | I don't think they've anything content wise, the only thing to pace left to them are the barriers in Sunwell Plateau. |
| 17:36.49 | Hobby | Realms are spooling up =P |
| 17:36.59 | chiper | tho, I suppose 2.0 came out several months before BC did |
| 17:37.08 | mytos | and it wouldnt be much longer than naxx-outland, which was the last content patch before bc |
| 17:37.18 | NeoTron | 3.0 would have all the new skills and talens |
| 17:37.26 | NeoTron | and I assume it will come out first |
| 17:37.28 | Srosh | The crew that worked on Sunwell Plateau is probably now shifting it's focus to the first raid content patch for WotLK. |
| 17:37.37 | NimbleRabit | anyone know where it stores the .torrent in XP? |
| 17:37.39 | chiper | neo: yeah, that's what I'm thinking |
| 17:37.42 | NeoTron | I am curious though, if it would make warlocks spec more than 40 pts into destruction. why do I dobut it? :P |
| 17:37.55 | rubik | NimbleRabit: WoW\Cache dir for me.. |
| 17:38.10 | Srosh | chiper, actually it was about a month, and originally they'd planned for an even shorter time. |
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| 17:38.35 | mytos | does anyone else run vista ultimate and having a problem with wau not liking where your warcraft directory is? |
| 17:38.38 | rubik | that was the torrent for the big file.. last week. 2nd (~8MB) file downloaded this morning didn't extract a torrent for me? |
| 17:38.40 | Srosh | But I guess they could do that again, and probably will. Worked pretty well transition wise. |
| 17:38.56 | Matrix110 | mythos |
| 17:38.59 | rubik | (and i didn't bother to extract the torrent from the .exe file myself since it was quick to download) |
| 17:39.00 | sylvanaar_work | mytos hahahahahahaha |
| 17:39.01 | Matrix110 | add a \ at the end |
| 17:39.25 | Matrix110 | sylvanaar_work loves WAU users :D |
| 17:39.29 | Estil | come on Blackrock get up already! |
| 17:39.31 | sylvanaar_work | <3 |
| 17:39.40 | mytos | sylvanaar : whats so funny? |
| 17:39.49 | sylvanaar_work | have you seen the updaters forum |
| 17:39.52 | sylvanaar_work | rofl |
| 17:40.02 | winkiller | mhm, I seem to made a big fubar. updating addons while being EU :P |
| 17:40.08 | Matrix110 | he wrote WAU like it is today mytos :P |
| 17:40.21 | Matrix110 | not the original WAU though |
| 17:40.23 | winkiller | still it seems interesting that no one seems to be backwards.compatible |
| 17:40.26 | kergoth | i still like WUU, mself. most flexible |
| 17:40.27 | mytos | nah, its not really a big problem, its just a minor annoyance, other than updating once i week i dont use it |
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| 17:40.41 | mytos | so i didnt check the forums |
| 17:40.48 | Matrix110 | do that next time:P |
| 17:41.05 | sylvanaar_work | when you look you will get the joke |
| 17:41.12 | chiper | winkiller: why bother being backwards compatible? WoW isnt |
| 17:41.22 | mytos | got a link, im horrendously lazy? |
| 17:41.24 | winkiller | chiper: but EU is broken till tomorroe |
| 17:41.30 | winkiller | and I bet KR also :P |
| 17:41.59 | chiper | are you really that addicted that you cant wait 24 hours? |
| 17:42.12 | winkiller | I didn't think about 2.4 |
| 17:42.18 | winkiller | didn't read WOW news at work |
| 17:42.21 | winkiller | I just updated :P |
| 17:42.41 | winkiller | today is not a patchday for me, so why bother :) |
| 17:43.03 | SunTsu | winkiller: You still can downgrade |
| 17:43.04 | Funkeh` | ulic, |
| 17:43.08 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=57.0 |
| 17:43.13 | rubik | "the changes made to spells like multi-shot or chain lightning to avoid breaking CC spells have been removed." <-- eh? why? |
| 17:43.20 | mytos | oh, i see the funny now |
| 17:43.20 | winkiller | SunTsu: I know. but it's a major PITA figutring it out |
| 17:43.20 | chiper | it's been known for two weeks that a patch was likely this week |
| 17:43.23 | nevcairiel | rubik: because you need to l2p |
| 17:43.24 | rubik | why removed last minute, i mean |
| 17:43.31 | winkiller | not that it would be *hard* to have some version check in the code |
| 17:43.37 | winkiller | around patchday >< |
| 17:43.45 | nevcairiel | rubik: its not last minuet, was reverted a long time ago, they just didnt tell |
| 17:43.50 | rubik | haha.. i was against those changes anyway (and i'm a druid AND warrior tank) |
| 17:44.01 | dylanm | rubik: I was hoping you weren't for those. |
| 17:44.08 | dylanm | I need things like that to make this game interesting. |
| 17:44.09 | rubik | yup.. no worries |
| 17:44.15 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, PProvost wrote WAU back in 11/06, i maintained it from 12/06 - 11/07 |
| 17:44.17 | winkiller | think I only need to copy Omen from the other machine anyway |
| 17:44.38 | nevcairiel | just get it from http://files.wowace.com/Omen/ |
| 17:44.39 | kebinusan | US realms are starting to come up |
| 17:44.42 | nevcairiel | and get a version from yesterday |
| 17:44.43 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 17:44.44 | winkiller | I know, I know |
| 17:45.08 | mytos | i tell it update, and it tanks lol |
| 17:45.23 | winkiller | I don't think WoWAPI has a nice way to do some version checking |
| 17:45.31 | cladhaire | yes it does |
| 17:45.36 | cladhaire | GetBuildInfo() |
| 17:45.37 | Zeksie | GetBuildInfo() |
| 17:45.40 | winkiller | ok, then no one uses it :P |
| 17:45.56 | chiper | right, because it's rare that you need to |
| 17:45.57 | winkiller | nvm, just ranting about missing QA :) |
| 17:46.17 | cladhaire | you're in the wrong irc channel for qa |
| 17:46.21 | cladhaire | you are the qa tester here |
| 17:46.28 | winkiller | is too much into continuous integration the whole day at work |
| 17:46.32 | Snago | Some addons have had version checking and have been working for both 2.4 and 2.3 |
| 17:46.33 | winkiller | I'm sorry :( |
| 17:46.36 | chiper | hours of extra code are not worth avoiding one day of inconvenience |
| 17:46.43 | nevcairiel | i didnt update my owns mods to 2.4 yet, but i can see how i would do it if i was US |
| 17:46.49 | dylanm | Yeah for the most part version checking is silly to do. |
| 17:46.50 | nevcairiel | i mean, i will do it tomorrow, and screw asians |
| 17:46.51 | nevcairiel | but whatever |
| 17:47.05 | Snago | but for some reason everyone decided to remove all version checking and only support 2.4 today :P |
| 17:47.08 | Zeksie | they should be used to not updating immediately |
| 17:47.10 | winkiller | as I said, I updated out of habit :) |
| 17:47.19 | dylanm | For all but like two days in a year you're assured that version checking is useless. |
| 17:47.21 | winkiller | Snago: that's what I said :) |
| 17:47.33 | sylvanaar_work | version checks are bloat is the general belief |
| 17:47.33 | dylanm | There are more important things to be done. |
| 17:47.33 | NeoTron | what does it mean in WAU when an has a strike on it? outdated toc? |
| 17:47.44 | Zeksie | yeah |
| 17:47.51 | NeoTron | ok so nothing to worry about |
| 17:48.22 | winkiller | screw bloat, user experience :) |
| 17:48.34 | nevcairiel | Snago: before 2.4 everyone did the checks, after release .. its good to remove the shit, you can just use a old version, and learn to not update on patch day if you're EU :P |
| 17:49.05 | winkiller | nevcairiel: wouldn't hiurt to wait some revisions aka 2 days though :P |
| 17:49.08 | Snago | Yeah, I know. I've resisted all urges to update today, so far ;P |
| 17:49.15 | Zeksie | what's the delay on asian based wow? like 2 months or so? |
| 17:50.08 | Civrock | US Servers are up and already a ton of addon errors due to missing dependencies. >_> |
| 17:50.20 | winkiller | fuck. missing 13 badges for tomorrow then |
| 17:50.21 | Civrock | Omen, Recount, CowTip. |
| 17:50.30 | nevcairiel | Civrock: enable load-outdated? :) |
| 17:50.33 | winkiller | only got 147 |
| 17:50.35 | Snago | Personally I don't mind, I'm in #wowace-cia, read the changelogs and know exactly what and when I have to update. Most users don't take addons as serious though. |
| 17:50.45 | dylanm | And that's why they suffer. |
| 17:50.52 | winkiller | oh rihgt, didn |
| 17:50.59 | winkiller | 't really notice cia was gone |
| 17:51.08 | winkiller | I hate ' next to <enter> |
| 17:51.21 | Elsia | Civrock: you sure it's recount and not another addon screwing recount? |
| 17:51.29 | sylvanaar_work | winkiller you'd see 20400 spammed all over the screen if it was here |
| 17:51.40 | Civrock | Says LibGraph is missing. |
| 17:51.43 | winkiller | sylvanaar_work: it used to be here. or why do I know it at all |
| 17:51.49 | Civrock | Even though it's installed. |
| 17:51.59 | Elsia | hmm let me double-check but libgraph is no longer a dep.. even in the old recount |
| 17:52.02 | sylvanaar_work | winkiller it died |
| 17:52.07 | winkiller | lol |
| 17:52.12 | Jzilla | server's are starting to come up. |
| 17:52.19 | winkiller | throw up you mean? |
| 17:52.22 | Civrock | Elsia: [2008/03/25 13:52:02-1320-x1]: Recount-$Revision: 65674 $\GUI_Detail.lua:1: Cannot find a library instance of "LibGraph-2.0". |
| 17:52.22 | Civrock | Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: in function `GetLibrary' |
| 17:52.22 | Civrock | Recount-$Revision: 65674 $\GUI_Detail.lua:1: in main chunk |
| 17:52.24 | Civrock | One of many. |
| 17:52.30 | mykx | so I think i'll be staying well clear of sunwell isle until our raid tonight place is gonna be mobbed with bads doing dailys etc |
| 17:53.36 | chiper | yeah, I think I'll avoid it till tomorrow |
| 17:53.41 | NeoTron | we plan to go to BT tonight |
| 17:53.45 | chiper | just work on my shammy tonight |
| 17:53.47 | winkiller | lol you |
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| 17:53.55 | Elsia | Civrock: let me check the zip, svn embeds look correct |
| 17:53.57 | Recluse | what's this new development tab in the realm selection? o.O |
| 17:53.58 | winkiller | raiding on a patchday is mass suicide |
| 17:54.03 | cladhaire | lol |
| 17:54.11 | cladhaire | i see five realms |
| 17:54.16 | winkiller | maybe we're doing ZA - but without me :D |
| 17:54.31 | Funkeh` | U.S. is up already? |
| 17:54.33 | Funkeh` | you kidding? |
| 17:54.43 | Civrock | Yep. |
| 17:54.47 | Civrock | Some servers. |
| 17:54.48 | mykx | yeah brutallus should be fun with buggy mods lol |
| 17:54.50 | winkiller | oh wait.. 10 am East coast time? |
| 17:54.51 | ulic | Funkeh`: thanks for updating the .bat & .sh, I appreciate it. |
| 17:54.51 | Hobby | a select few |
| 17:54.52 | Ellipsis | they're just starting to come up |
| 17:55.03 | winkiller | ~11 |
| 17:55.03 | sylvanaar_work | its 11 edt isnt it? |
| 17:55.04 | Funkeh` | ulic, you need to make use of icons in lw |
| 17:55.06 | Funkeh` | for warnings |
| 17:55.10 | mykx | We had our GM gquit last time, good stuff lemme tell you |
| 17:55.14 | mykx | last night* |
| 17:55.20 | cladhaire | and they all just went offline |
| 17:55.25 | sylvanaar_work | rofl |
| 17:55.26 | winkiller | I forgot.. 7 pm here. would be *very* late for servers to go up :) |
| 17:55.30 | Elsia | Civrock: zip contains the lib, that's why I'm thinking it's a followup error of sorts |
| 17:55.34 | ulic | Funkeh`: I'll get there, wanted to get basic functionality back in. Icons are just fluff. |
| 17:55.35 | Funkeh` | ulic, similar to bars, it uses ID's |
| 17:55.37 | Civrock | "Server is restarting in 15 minutes" |
| 17:55.40 | Elsia | and embeds.xml is correct in the zip too |
| 17:55.44 | Funkeh` | ulic, good fluff :) |
| 17:55.58 | Civrock | Elsia: How do I fix it? |
| 17:56.16 | ulic | Funkeh`: just out of curiosity, is it optional fluff for the user, or forced fluff? |
| 17:56.34 | Elsia | can you disable everything but recount and see if the problem persists, if no then it's another addon, if yes, post all errors on the recount thread |
| 17:56.40 | Funkeh` | ulic, optional |
| 17:56.59 | ulic | if I get bored at work today, i'll see about getting some in there. |
| 17:57.35 | chiper | to think, I was going to take the day off work. glad I didnt |
| 17:57.44 | ulic | it basically just displayes like Parrot did, with the icon for whatever next to the text? |
| 17:57.46 | chiper | by the time I get home, most of this shit will be straightened out |
| 17:58.15 | ulic | I've been home sick on patch day before, it sucks. |
| 17:59.24 | chiper | not that I dont have other stuff I could be doing. Halo 3 and Smash Bros. Brawl are both severely neglected |
| 17:59.27 | Elsia | oh and civ, if you installed disembedded, make sure to check all dependencies, including libgraph-2.0 |
| 18:00.09 | chiper | anyone seeing any issues with bar mods? trinity bars, bartended, etc? |
| 18:00.16 | sylvanaar_work | I have about 10 different games i am playing |
| 18:01.29 | kebinusan | realms seem to be offline again |
| 18:01.42 | ulic | there was a wowace addon that enabled ML for bosses, anyone remember the name of it? |
| 18:01.56 | kebinusan | ulic: one of the oRA modules |
| 18:02.01 | kebinusan | I think |
| 18:02.21 | durcyn | oRA2_Leader/Loot.lua |
| 18:02.25 | ulic | a built in one? |
| 18:02.29 | ulic | oh I'll have a look |
| 18:02.33 | ulic | ty |
| 18:02.47 | NeoTron | winkiller: that's why we're doing easy raiding today rather than going to sunwell |
| 18:03.13 | winkiller | anyone knows whether you can disable the CTRA-surveys in oRA or whether it's bugged for the people that don't get the check? |
| 18:03.20 | winkiller | NeoTron: pff :P as if BT was easy |
| 18:03.48 | kebinusan | the spirit changes are going to make healing stupid |
| 18:04.01 | chiper | guhwha? |
| 18:04.01 | NeoTron | winkiller: that is the point |
| 18:04.04 | NeoTron | it is easy for us :P |
| 18:04.07 | durcyn | huh? bt's boring. |
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| 18:04.37 | NeoTron | I just don't want to put my guild in Sunwell on patch day with a wild and vile assortment of addons |
| 18:04.47 | NeoTron | plus we really need illidan loot anyway |
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| 18:04.58 | NeoTron | say some glaivees, skulls, staves.. |
| 18:05.05 | durcyn | eh, kalecgos is easy, definitely killable without omen anyway |
| 18:05.08 | Elsia | my main raiding char is actually in a casual guild (raid group is an alliance, not a guild). my guild just downed prince for the first time last weekend, was very funny :D |
| 18:05.09 | kebinusan | skull got nerf batted |
| 18:05.16 | winkiller | well, we're going TK instead of trying Hydross and Karathress :/ 3/4 , 5/6 would look better :P |
| 18:05.19 | durcyn | kebinusan: wait, what? |
| 18:05.36 | kebinusan | skull of gul'dan now shares a CD with other trinkets |
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| 18:05.39 | Kaaosa2 | TK is pretty simple. |
| 18:05.39 | kebinusan | not a big nerf |
| 18:05.41 | kebinusan | but still |
| 18:05.48 | Herio | Tuesday MORNIN' BLUEZ |
| 18:05.51 | Herio | qq |
| 18:05.58 | mytos | does anyone know if its possible to use a mod to level up my enchanting, kind of like skillet for blacksmithing? |
| 18:06.00 | durcyn | oh, that's fine, i can't get a malacrass trinket to drop anyway |
| 18:06.22 | Kaaosa2 | Not so far as I'm aware, mytos |
| 18:06.35 | Herio | what does skillet do for blacksmithing? xD |
| 18:06.43 | NeoTron | kebinusan: so? it's still the best trinekt anyway |
| 18:07.04 | chiper | mytos: no, there's no queueing method yet for enchanting |
| 18:07.09 | Hobby | There's been no mod updates in quite a while, everything still working? |
| 18:07.51 | Snago | kicks CIA-9 |
| 18:07.51 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 18:08.06 | dylanm | Alar updated four minutes ago. |
| 18:08.07 | kebinusan | realms estimated down till 12:30 pdt now |
| 18:08.08 | dylanm | That's huge. |
| 18:08.25 | NeoTron | dylanm: my night is, in fact, saved |
| 18:08.28 | Nandini | that's normal |
| 18:08.30 | Herio | I'm gonna CRY |
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| 18:08.52 | Nandini | it always takes 10-12 hours for a major patch, not 8 |
| 18:09.01 | kebinusan | anyway afk, I have parts 1&2 of the colour of magic to watch |
| 18:09.17 | Hobby | I'm on Arthas US, it takes 10-12 hours for every tuesday :) |
| 18:09.18 | kebinusan | blizz needs to work on the scotty principle more |
| 18:09.24 | Kaaosa2 | This class I'm in is over at 12:30 pdt :] |
| 18:09.30 | NeoTron | I don't understand... why they wouldn't just say it'll be down till 3 PM PST |
| 18:09.34 | NeoTron | and then get kudos if it's up early |
| 18:09.35 | Nandini | indeed, underpromise and overdeliver |
| 18:09.50 | NeoTron | they are ALWAYS late so why don't they just fix their broken estimates :P |
| 18:09.52 | Nandini | like the waiting lines at disney world |
| 18:09.56 | Herio | I have class 2-415 PDT so QQ |
| 18:10.01 | Nandini | the end of the line says it's a 2 hour wait |
| 18:10.12 | Herio | yeah |
| 18:10.17 | Nandini | 15 minutes in, it's only a 1 hour wait |
| 18:10.29 | Nandini | and by the time you're at the front, you only waited 45 mins |
| 18:10.34 | Herio | it's one of their strategies |
| 18:10.40 | [SW]Dodge | can someone explain me what "Your ticket has been escalated" means or better translate it to german?^^ |
| 18:10.41 | Herio | improves customer satisfaction |
| 18:11.09 | Herio | basically it means that your ticket has been sent into the queue to be looked at by a specialist |
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| 18:11.16 | [SW]Dodge | ah ok thanks |
| 18:11.19 | Nandini | basically it means a higher level GM is needed to fix your issue |
| 18:11.19 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
| 18:11.30 | Herio | if it's an item problem, it's probably whoever can restore/transfer your item(s) |
| 18:11.48 | [SW]Dodge | yeah its an item problem |
| 18:11.51 | chiper | in otherwords, you have to wait another hour |
| 18:11.58 | Herio | lol |
| 18:12.02 | Herio | if you're lucky |
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| 18:12.24 | Kaaosa2 | Has anyone tried out the new NECB in 2.4? |
| 18:12.40 | Herio | I got scammed and it took 8 days for the escalated ticket to go through so I could get my mats back. |
| 18:13.05 | Nandini | 8 days is pretty fast, actually. i've had guildmates who waited 3-6 weeks in the US |
| 18:13.15 | [SW]Dodge | omg |
| 18:13.23 | Pheredhel | for communicating heals (like see all incoming heals on a target, castbars for all healers ... ) what library is most used / "best" LibHealCom or incominghealslib |
| 18:13.28 | chiper | at that point I'd say fuggit and move along |
| 18:13.29 | [SW]Dodge | i hope it'll be faster here |
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| 18:13.39 | [SW]Dodge | since it is just a item i wanst able to loot -.- |
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| 18:13.59 | durcyn | ckknight: do I need to do anything special for CowTip/PitBull/Parrot to use LDT-3? |
| 18:14.06 | Herio | we had bugged nef loot take a month and a half to get to the people who it was supposed to go to |
| 18:14.18 | [SW]Dodge | wtf |
| 18:14.21 | [SW]Dodge | :( |
| 18:14.27 | NeoTron | in 2.4 you can see when ppl start casting heals right? |
| 18:14.33 | Kaaosa2 | ? |
| 18:14.37 | Kaaosa2 | Can't you already see that? |
| 18:14.48 | durcyn | NeoTron: already can. but you can't see what their bonus +healing etc is |
| 18:14.54 | NeoTron | 2.4 is now :P |
| 18:15.03 | Pheredhel | 2.4 is tomorrow for me ;) |
| 18:15.04 | NeoTron | just curious if 2.4 added events or if it was possible before |
| 18:15.25 | [SW]Dodge | 2.4 is tomorrow, EU is still 2.3! |
| 18:15.29 | kergoth | pretty sure you could never reliably tell who they were casting it on, though |
| 18:15.38 | chiper | healbot's always supported showing incomming heals |
| 18:15.45 | Seerah | Funkeh' owes me a cookie!!! |
| 18:15.54 | kergoth | well, there are libs that send that info around.. |
| 18:16.01 | Funkeh` | Seerah, You owe me a welcome back |
| 18:16.07 | Fisker- | kd3 |
| 18:16.09 | chiper | ahh, ok |
| 18:16.10 | Seerah | welcome back :) how was your trip? :) |
| 18:16.11 | Fisker- | i kill for patch links |
| 18:16.11 | Pheredhel | chiper : the question is what library, as I don't want to request a specific addon |
| 18:16.18 | Funkeh` | Seerah, Eventfull ;p |
| 18:16.24 | Seerah | oooooohhhh |
| 18:16.29 | Pheredhel | for us, there is no requirement for omen, but for libthreat... |
| 18:16.30 | durcyn | Pheredhel: LibHealComm is more widely used based on what i've seen |
| 18:16.33 | Nandini | most click-casting and unitframe addons will already use healcomm/incomingheals to send/display the info |
| 18:16.46 | Pheredhel | thanks durcyn |
| 18:17.29 | Pheredhel | nandini the problem is, I want to "force" using one for everybody, where they get it from is their "problem" |
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| 18:17.51 | chiper | you trust your guildmates to know what addons use what libs? |
| 18:17.57 | a[b]raxas | oh god my omen blew up =( |
| 18:18.05 | a[b]raxas | send help |
| 18:18.08 | a[b]raxas | also hello |
| 18:18.18 | Kaaosa2 | I wish I could get all my guild mates to use an addon with LibHealComm |
| 18:18.20 | chiper | I cant even trust mine to know how to install an addon |
| 18:18.21 | durcyn | a[b]raxas: here, have a mint. |
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| 18:18.24 | rubik | from guildie.. "all servers are back down Apparently there was a bug in the bg's. one person said that 50 hk's had net her 40k honor.plus the laag was unbelievable." lol |
| 18:18.31 | Nandini | most addons will cooperate with each other |
| 18:18.33 | a[b]raxas | durcyn: thankyou |
| 18:18.46 | chiper | rubik: I like that bug! |
| 18:18.52 | Snago | a[b]raxas: My guess: You're in EU and updated to the 2.4 version of Omen? |
| 18:18.57 | NeoTron | that's no bug, that's a feature! |
| 18:18.59 | rubik | indeed.. 50hk = 40k honor would be nice |
| 18:19.10 | Seerah | good guess, Snago ;) |
| 18:19.13 | a[b]raxas | Snago: That would also be my guess. I just wanted to make sure |
| 18:19.17 | a[b]raxas | thanks :D |
| 18:19.22 | Seerah | or not on 2.4 and still using 2.3 version :P |
| 18:19.25 | Nandini | only if they raised the honor cap, 40k honor would put me at about 100k |
| 18:19.38 | NeoTron | so is CIA dead in the #wowace-cia channel too? |
| 18:19.48 | chiper | neo: would appear so |
| 18:19.52 | a[b]raxas | I also have a weird bug with my Prat in that it keeps turning on the FuBar Text every time I log in |
| 18:19.57 | a[b]raxas | any idea how to solve that? |
| 18:20.00 | chiper | not a peep in that channel since i joined it half an hour ago |
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| 18:20.13 | TNSe | kay |
| 18:20.20 | TNSe | apparently a bad idea to update omen today :P |
| 18:20.28 | Seerah | only if your EU |
| 18:20.36 | a[b]raxas | I can revert back to an older version via WAU rite? |
| 18:20.37 | Snago | I put "Don't update Omen today" in big red letters on our guild forums today, along with "If you load the 2.4 Omen in WoW 2.3 it will jump out of the screen and eat your genitals." |
| 18:20.40 | dylanm | Hm where has roart been |
| 18:20.47 | sylvanaar_work | a[b]raxas disable Prat_FuBar? |
| 18:20.56 | keiss | thx god our guild doesn't raid on tuesday :) |
| 18:21.06 | Snago | WAU should've displayed that instead of the ad today imho ;P |
| 18:21.07 | a[b]raxas | sylvanaar_work: no no I want Prat, I just want the icon but not the text |
| 18:21.18 | kenlyric | how dumb are people? |
| 18:21.23 | kenlyric | how many fucking patches have we had now? |
| 18:21.29 | kenlyric | it's the same fucking story every fucking patch |
| 18:21.29 | sylvanaar_work | a[b]raxas did it ever let you remove the text? |
| 18:21.30 | Ellipsis | do you really want an answer, kenlyric? |
| 18:21.32 | a[b]raxas | yes |
| 18:21.35 | kenlyric | JUST WAIT 1 DAY EUTRASH! |
| 18:21.37 | Kaaosa2 | My guild stopped raiding on Tuesdays after 2.1 crashed our server right as we killed Gruul :| |
| 18:21.43 | sylvanaar_work | kenlyric lol |
| 18:21.43 | a[b]raxas | it lets me go to fubar options and remove the checkmark from "show text" |
| 18:21.50 | a[b]raxas | but next time I log back on the text is there again |
| 18:21.58 | a[b]raxas | it didn't use to be like that |
| 18:22.02 | sylvanaar_work | a[b]raxas lol, i'll look at it later |
| 18:22.06 | a[b]raxas | not really a bug more like a slight annoyance |
| 18:22.38 | a[b]raxas | oh thanks then |
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| 18:22.47 | a[b]raxas | also hey its not my fault I'm in EU-Land ok kenlyric :( |
| 18:23.00 | kenlyric | it's your fault if you update on patch tuesday |
| 18:23.03 | durcyn | it is your fault you tried to update on patch day. |
| 18:23.04 | durcyn | ^^ |
| 18:23.14 | Snago | For most EU users, today is just any other day. If you don't actively read wow news you wouldn't know US got 2.4 today :P |
| 18:23.33 | Ellipsis | except that the login news for eu says 2.4 tomorrow |
| 18:23.33 | kenlyric | especially if yo uupdate without backing up |
| 18:23.35 | Primer | heh, I saw a realm come up on the realm status page...now it's down again |
| 18:23.36 | NeoTron | kenlyric: the main difference is, this patch is highly incompatible in the aspect of combat log addons |
| 18:23.43 | NeoTron | most patches are mostly compatible |
| 18:23.45 | kenlyric | Snago: if you don't actively read wow news, you shouldn't be using wau |
| 18:23.48 | chiper | if you come to this channel, odds are you DO read wow news |
| 18:23.58 | Kaaosa2 | kenlyric, lol |
| 18:24.03 | kergoth | eh, assuming anyone reads anything is bad, especially on irc |
| 18:24.08 | kenlyric | go to wowi |
| 18:24.09 | Snago | kenlyric: I agree. |
| 18:24.10 | kergoth | where it seems nobody reads anything without asking here first |
| 18:24.16 | sylvanaar_work | kergoth exactly |
| 18:24.18 | kenlyric | heck, curse has a client don't they? |
| 18:24.44 | Cyrez | Something wrong with CIA? |
| 18:24.50 | Kaaosa2 | CIA is dead. |
| 18:25.41 | kenlyric | Warning: do not use waffle iron as toilet seat. |
| 18:25.48 | Kaaosa2 | Why? |
| 18:25.49 | chiper | I rarely ever go to forums for information because usually the info I want is buried five pages deep in a thread that isnt named after info related to that |
| 18:26.03 | chiper | forums as a source of info only works if you actively read the entire forum |
| 18:26.04 | sylvanaar_work | omg, you all heard about that lady who sat on the toilet for 2 years |
| 18:26.09 | kenlyric | Kaaosa2: because it won't make you hot shit |
| 18:26.18 | kergoth | that was messed up |
| 18:26.21 | Kaaosa2 | lol. |
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| 18:26.22 | kergoth | and disgusting |
| 18:26.26 | Kaaosa2 | Bad pun. |
| 18:26.27 | a[b]raxas | I read about that but only the headline |
| 18:26.30 | a[b]raxas | what is up with that |
| 18:26.30 | kenlyric | I didn't believe that story on eiota |
| 18:26.33 | kenlyric | urban legend |
| 18:26.35 | sylvanaar_work | and had to have it surgecally removed |
| 18:26.36 | a[b]raxas | why was she sitting on the shitter for 2 years |
| 18:26.39 | kenlyric | citation needed |
| 18:26.44 | sylvanaar_work | ok |
| 18:26.50 | kergoth | she was agoraphobic or whatever, iirc |
| 18:26.54 | Cyrez | If the bot in this channel isn't working right, the bot in #wowace-cia won't be, either. They're essentially seperate threads of a single bot. |
| 18:26.56 | Kaaosa2 | lol. |
| 18:27.17 | a[b]raxas | so agoraphobic that she couldnt sit on the couch for 2 years but instead chose the can? |
| 18:27.29 | NeoTron | Cyrez: I figured it was disabled in here to avoid patch day spam |
| 18:27.31 | kenlyric | she got stuck on the can |
| 18:27.47 | kergoth | what i dont get is why the husband or whoever didnt think somethign was wrong when she'd been in there for months |
| 18:27.53 | kergoth | like thats normal |
| 18:27.53 | a[b]raxas | hahah |
| 18:27.55 | rubik | ^^ exactly |
| 18:27.55 | kenlyric | and she was like "no dear, we'll call the cops tomorrow" |
| 18:27.56 | Cyrez | I'll check mine real quick. |
| 18:28.05 | NeoTron | he claims she'd not sit on the shitter for 2 years in the row, only for few months |
| 18:28.06 | chiper | a[b]raxas: bathroom is a small secure room with only one entrance. there's a reason they tell you to go there during tornadoes |
| 18:28.08 | Herio | "Players will now be able to inspect other players via their chat link." |
| 18:28.09 | Ellipsis | they weren't married |
| 18:28.10 | Herio | HOT |
| 18:28.11 | rubik | i was like "uhh.. wtf was the boyfriend thinking?" |
| 18:28.17 | chiper | sounds like the perfect enviroment for agoraphobics |
| 18:28.17 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080312/NEWS07/80312051 |
| 18:28.29 | kenlyric | like I said, urban legend until we get verifying sources. |
| 18:28.32 | rubik | Herio: only if they're not pvp flagged ... must be in range too? |
| 18:28.34 | blay | is agoraphobic |
| 18:28.43 | Ellipsis | chiper: there's also the fact that she doesn't have to leave the room to go to the bathroom, and he was bringing her food |
| 18:28.58 | Ellipsis | any other room she wouldn't be able to stay in 24/7 |
| 18:29.02 | a[b]raxas | chiper yeah I guess that's true, I just never heard of a case so bad that you don't get of the can for 2 years.. my legs fall asleep when I take a long dump, I can't imagine sitting there for 2 years |
| 18:29.10 | a[b]raxas | off, rather than of |
| 18:29.13 | sylvanaar_work | what about the 1200 lb man? |
| 18:29.20 | sylvanaar_work | he couldnt make it to the bathroom |
| 18:29.35 | sylvanaar_work | he just went on himself |
| 18:29.45 | kenlyric | there was the 800 lb man whose flatbead crashed on the way to date. |
| 18:29.49 | kenlyric | *a |
| 18:29.51 | NeoTron | a[b]raxas: supposedly her legs were weakened from lack of use |
| 18:29.55 | Ellipsis | why would she choose to do that when she could live in the bathroom instead? |
| 18:29.58 | Herio | rubik: I think that means through the chat link... when they whisper or talk in a channel |
| 18:29.59 | NimbleRabit | 1 more hour!! |
| 18:30.00 | kenlyric | but the happy part of that story is he had just lost 500lbs |
| 18:30.02 | chiper | there was actually a movie staring Justin Long about a kid who locked himself in the bathroom |
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| 18:30.16 | Cyrez | The CIA bots are fine, but CIA isn't getting any data past r65781. |
| 18:30.20 | rubik | Herio: right.. but i'd assume they'd have to be in range for you to inspect them? |
| 18:30.20 | chiper | genius kid that his parents drove insane |
| 18:30.21 | a[b]raxas | I guess if she had internet on the can I can understand it |
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| 18:30.24 | a[b]raxas | hurr hurr |
| 18:30.26 | rubik | (via the chat link) |
| 18:30.38 | Herio | rubik: I'll see when my realm goes live ^_^ |
| 18:30.53 | Ellipsis | actually I didn't see anything in any of the articles about how she entertained herself |
| 18:30.55 | rubik | yeah.. no clue how it really works |
| 18:30.56 | Jzilla | if* |
| 18:30.57 | Ellipsis | it's an interesting question |
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| 18:31.14 | Estil | servers are not up on time |
| 18:31.16 | Herio | I don't know if anyone noticed or even if that feature was on the last PTR patch |
| 18:31.18 | Estil | usual patch time blues |
| 18:31.23 | Jzilla | im shocked! |
| 18:31.23 | a[b]raxas | maybe she just talked to her husband a lot |
| 18:31.24 | kenlyric | it wasn't that she stayed in the bathoorm |
| 18:31.27 | Herio | supposedly it was a late addition to the notes xD |
| 18:31.29 | kenlyric | she stayed *on the toilet* |
| 18:31.47 | chiper | well it is the only seat in the room :P |
| 18:32.01 | Ellipsis | what would you do kenlyric, lay down on the floor? :P |
| 18:32.14 | kenlyric | i'd move periodically |
| 18:32.20 | a[b]raxas | shower and or bathtub |
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| 18:32.23 | kenlyric | so the flesh of my ass didn't grow around the seat |
| 18:32.24 | a[b]raxas | I suppose |
| 18:32.36 | kenlyric | i mean, you'd have to be there months without moving |
| 18:32.41 | kenlyric | it boggles the mind |
| 18:32.56 | Ellipsis | you'd probably get used to it after a week or two |
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| 18:33.08 | chiper | the stupid often confound the smart |
| 18:33.09 | kenlyric | âAnd her reply would be, âMaybe tomorrow,ââ |
| 18:33.24 | kenlyric | she just didn't want to have sex, as I noted when I first saw the story. |
| 18:33.28 | Kaaosa2 | lol |
| 18:33.28 | a[b]raxas | I guess she really liked it on that toilet |
| 18:33.49 | Kaaosa2 | I like that the Sheriff is Mr. Whipple |
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| 18:34.07 | Kaaosa2 | Maybe he will put her in jail for squeezing the Charmin :x |
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| 18:34.35 | Nandini | is avenger's shield the only multi-target skill that still doesn't break CC? |
| 18:34.41 | Kaaosa2 | I think so |
| 18:34.49 | Herio | chain lightening? |
| 18:34.49 | ulic | bummer they took that out. |
| 18:34.54 | Kaaosa2 | Not a bummer. |
| 18:35.03 | Shirik | yes chain lightning definitely doesn't break CC |
| 18:35.09 | Herio | honestly, I break CC like it's going out of style |
| 18:35.10 | Kaaosa2 | I'd rather have multi target skills be an idiot check. |
| 18:35.17 | Shirik | I agree |
| 18:35.27 | Shirik | I think that was a stupid change to try to have multishot, etc., not break CC |
| 18:35.37 | Kaaosa2 | Yeah |
| 18:35.43 | Shirik | why don't we just add a "win" button to the interface |
| 18:35.55 | Nandini | chain lightning, multishot, and swipe no longer are mentioned in the patch notes, but avenger's shield still is |
| 18:36.01 | chiper | oh come on, it's not THAT big of a buff |
| 18:36.01 | ulic | Kaaosa2: well yes in some cases for sure, but if a tank is tanking 2 mobs, and does a cleave or whatever, it's lame that it could break the CC'd one. |
| 18:36.29 | too | only problem is the hunter multishot is in most shot rotations, so you really take a lot away from the hunters ability to damage a target by having it break cc |
| 18:36.30 | Ellipsis | it's not about it being a buff |
| 18:36.31 | Nandini | cleave is also not mentioned |
| 18:36.32 | Shirik | adds an extra skill component |
| 18:36.33 | mort | if zou tank those 2 mobs right beside the cced one you fail |
| 18:36.35 | Kaaosa2 | The tank should turn away from the CC'd mob or something. |
| 18:36.43 | ulic | in real live the tank could probably control who he's hitting. |
| 18:36.46 | ulic | *life |
| 18:36.46 | Kaaosa2 | It's not that hard not to break CC . |
| 18:36.48 | chiper | anything that saves me from having to yell at huntards is a plus in my book |
| 18:36.51 | Ellipsis | the key to bad pugs is early detection, if people are stupid and break CC at least you know before you get to a boss :P |
| 18:36.55 | Shirik | in real life, you wouldn't be turning people into sheeps :P |
| 18:37.03 | Kaaosa2 | Ellipsis, exactly. |
| 18:37.09 | Herio | LOL |
| 18:37.17 | Shirik | or if you did, if I was the unsheeped guy, I'd be like "wtf they just turned my friend into a sheep, I'm outta here" |
| 18:37.22 | Herio | you shouldn't be pugging if you need CC =P |
| 18:37.22 | Fisker- | >:I Zeksie |
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| 18:37.37 | NeoTron | too: MultiShot is in MM shot rotations, and typically not in BM rotations.. |
| 18:37.38 | Ellipsis | uh |
| 18:37.42 | Ellipsis | you shouldn't need CC in a non-pug |
| 18:37.47 | Kaaosa2 | Yeah, I run with a paladin tank, so I rarely have to worry about CC, but the principle remains the same |
| 18:37.51 | Fisker- | doesn't make sense it keeps losing the buff config without any changes |
| 18:38.17 | Zeksie | explain |
| 18:38.21 | NeoTron | did they nerf back cleaves and swipes too or just MS/chain lighting? |
| 18:38.29 | Nandini | i'm just curious why avenger's shield kept its change and nothing else did |
| 18:38.33 | Herio | ellipsis: by that logic, everything beyond T4 content shouldn't be organized |
| 18:38.42 | NeoTron | Nandini: long cooldown, used for pulling |
| 18:38.43 | Nandini | usually evenger's shield is used before there is even any cc |
| 18:38.45 | Shirik | Nandini: Think about tanks trying to get aggro with a sap up |
| 18:39.00 | Kemayo | pokes CIA-9. |
| 18:39.03 | Herio | what I'm trying to say, is that you don't need CC until TK/SSC, and you shouldn't be pugging that anyhow |
| 18:39.07 | Shirik | kicks CIA-9 |
| 18:39.07 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 18:39.45 | Ellipsis | Herio: if you're doing tk/ssc, you better already know who the idiots are in your raid |
| 18:39.48 | Nandini | misdirect + multishot is another way to get aggro with a sap up for those of us who are not pallies, and they took that away :P |
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| 18:40.15 | mort | multishot the sapped one directly, that should still work imho |
| 18:40.34 | Herio | ellipis: by your logic, you'd be pugging it and you don't know who the idiots are |
| 18:40.44 | Ellipsis | why would I be pugging it? |
| 18:40.55 | vithos | zomg my US server is up |
| 18:40.57 | Kaaosa2 | I just don't bring idiots to raids >_> |
| 18:40.58 | Ellipsis | I don't think most realms run tk/ssc pugs |
| 18:41.02 | Nandini | mine is up too |
| 18:41.05 | kenlyric | need mapster_mailboxes |
| 18:41.10 | Herio | because you "need" CC for it, and you shouldn't use CC if you're not pugging |
| 18:41.17 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: l2remember things :P |
| 18:41.23 | Herio | and by proxy it would be "easier" if you pugged it =P |
| 18:41.26 | Ellipsis | Herio: I meant for heroics, kara, etc. |
| 18:41.29 | kenlyric | i find mailbox tracking quite useful |
| 18:41.37 | Herio | you shouldn't need CC. period. |
| 18:41.38 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: they don't move often |
| 18:41.40 | kenlyric | i get so turned around in cities |
| 18:41.44 | kenlyric | yes, but I move |
| 18:41.59 | Ellipsis | Herio: CC is the difference between a moderately bad pug failing and succeeding |
| 18:42.00 | kenlyric | it's so much easier for me to find the bank in shatt when I just follow the mailbox icon |
| 18:42.10 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: then learn shatt's map |
| 18:42.19 | Herio | a good tank is |
| 18:42.19 | Ellipsis | besides, there are like 6 mailboxes in shatt |
| 18:42.20 | kenlyric | that's what I have mods for |
| 18:42.35 | kenlyric | I found a new mailbox in silvermoon only this week |
| 18:42.35 | Herio | CC is the difference between a fast run and a slow one |
| 18:42.39 | Ellipsis | do you have a mod that reminds you to type in your password at the login screen, too? |
| 18:42.41 | NeoTron | Antiarc: so purpose of LibGUIDRegistry is to save data about mob such as creature type? |
| 18:42.42 | kenlyric | there's a whole goddamn second bank |
| 18:42.44 | Ellipsis | maybe it remembers the pass and does it for you? :P |
| 18:43.19 | Herio | kenlyric: I made the cartographer mailbox mod |
| 18:43.23 | Herio | I share your pain, brother! |
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| 18:43.41 | durcyn | Ellipsis: reductio absurdum what |
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| 18:43.51 | Ellipsis | durcyn: your mom! |
| 18:44.04 | Ellipsis | but really, how hard is it to learn where your bank is in shatt? |
| 18:44.11 | Ellipsis | it's not going anywhere |
| 18:44.16 | Kaaosa2 | Very hard. |
| 18:44.17 | Kaaosa2 | They hide. |
| 18:44.19 | kenlyric | it's not about learning where it's at |
| 18:44.27 | kenlyric | it's about whatever my current orientation is |
| 18:44.32 | durcyn | eh, i sometimes forget which characters are aldor and which are scryer |
| 18:44.33 | Fisker- | Antiarc you here? |
| 18:44.42 | durcyn | does that count? |
| 18:44.46 | Ellipsis | durcyn: hint, look for the green names |
| 18:44.53 | Herio | LOL |
| 18:44.56 | kenlyric | it's visually helpful |
| 18:44.57 | durcyn | 30 seconds of my life wasted though! |
| 18:45.06 | Herio | you need a faster mount |
| 18:45.07 | Ellipsis | durcyn, not if you pay attention to the rest of the npcs in shatt |
| 18:45.08 | durcyn | i need big blinking lights and ten arrows pointing across the zone, alright |
| 18:45.09 | Herio | and crusader aura |
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| 18:45.12 | kenlyric | you use green names |
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| 18:45.15 | kenlyric | I use mailbox icons |
| 18:45.19 | Ellipsis | all the aldor dudes training around there? if they're red to you, you're not aldor |
| 18:45.26 | kenlyric | not in 2.4 |
| 18:45.34 | Herio | you can track the boxes in your opposing faction's bank, bro |
| 18:45.34 | kenlyric | all of shatt is like in love or something |
| 18:45.47 | Kemayo | kenlyric: There's HandyNote_Mailboxes. It's not Mapster_, but... |
| 18:46.09 | kenlyric | I can't really tell you the number of times I fly out of shatt in the wrong direction |
| 18:46.19 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: actually I don't use green names...I know all my characters' factions |
| 18:46.27 | Ellipsis | but the point is, l2navigate |
| 18:46.33 | kenlyric | I have no sense of direction until I start moving |
| 18:46.47 | genetik | has anyone ever written an addon that simply draws a straight line forever on the map in the direction you're facing? |
| 18:46.59 | Herio | lol? |
| 18:47.11 | Ozguli | O |
| 18:47.15 | Ozguli | I'd love to have one |
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| 18:47.28 | kenlyric | I probably need to turn on the rotating minimap feature |
| 18:47.37 | genetik | i thought about writing it, but i don't want to recreate the wheel |
| 18:47.38 | kergoth | thatd be cute actually, but i still want an addon that shows a destination list, where if you click on the dest, it maeks a waypoint to it, for flying to places you often visit |
| 18:48.09 | Ozguli | I've just created such waypoints myself |
| 18:48.31 | Ozguli | shame I can't really use cartographer or any other flashy shiny addons, 512 ram ftl |
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| 18:48.54 | kergoth | you can use tomtom+mapster+handynotes, maybe |
| 18:48.56 | kergoth | shrugs |
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| 18:50.25 | Snago | Can Aldor ppl walk on Scryer tier now? |
| 18:50.50 | kenlyric | lol |
| 18:51.10 | kenlyric | for some reason I thought they stopped disabling the checkbox in 2.3 |
| 18:52.06 | sb_ | huh? |
| 18:52.13 | chiper | snago: I doubt it |
| 18:52.24 | Fisker- | you can walk on the tier as long as you don't get caught by guards |
| 18:52.44 | Kurax | Snago: You can always walk on it |
| 18:52.50 | Heri1 | heyo |
| 18:52.58 | chiper | content rarely gets retroactively updated. hense why so many NPCs exist in multiple locations |
| 18:53.10 | kenlyric | forget x-embeds in mods that use libdogtag-3? |
| 18:53.22 | Kurax | Snago: Just will be banished out if get caught |
| 18:53.42 | Heri1 | chiper: what about grifta? |
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| 18:54.11 | chiper | I'm still not sure why grifta got the boot from undercity |
| 18:54.14 | Kurax | Snago: And you can try kill one guard before they kick your ass, they're like 6-8k hp =p |
| 18:54.15 | chiper | er, lowercity |
| 18:54.25 | keiss | anyone here with a german client ? |
| 18:54.42 | Estil | blah |
| 18:54.46 | Estil | blackrock server is late as usual |
| 18:54.58 | Heri1 | maybe because grifta was GRIFTING? |
| 18:56.09 | keiss | Estil: there you go :) |
| 18:56.31 | Estil | zomg it's up! |
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| 18:57.52 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.19 | kenlyric | seriously, why don't ck's addons have libdogtag3.0 in x-embeds if it's required? |
| 18:58.36 | NivFreak | yea, I had to install it by hand |
| 18:58.56 | kenlyric | I have lesser mods like that, by lesser authors :) |
| 18:58.57 | Heri1 | it was an honest mistake |
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| 18:59.04 | durcyn | well, if ellipsis doesn't ninja-commit toc fixes, i just might |
| 18:59.27 | kenlyric | i'm looking right at you... whichever mod uses wholib! |
| 19:00.31 | NimbleRabit | most servers are up now |
| 19:00.41 | kenlyric | libs are the errors I like, because they're easily fixed :) |
| 19:01.12 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: because it's not |
| 19:01.24 | NivFreak | wow |
| 19:01.28 | NivFreak | they must have really tweaked ZA loot |
| 19:01.29 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: it's required if it throws errors when it's not installed |
| 19:01.31 | NivFreak | my stats are way different |
| 19:01.37 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: since when? |
| 19:01.41 | kenlyric | since right now? |
| 19:01.50 | Ellipsis | I didn't know he switched from 2.0 to 3.0 |
| 19:02.01 | durcyn | there are a bunch of ifchecks for 2.4 clients |
| 19:02.03 | durcyn | that pull in LDT3 |
| 19:02.11 | NivFreak | wowhead is fucked |
| 19:02.15 | Kaaosa2 | lol |
| 19:02.23 | Ellipsis | bah |
| 19:02.33 | Ellipsis | he probably just hasn't gotten around to updating the toc for it then |
| 19:02.41 | Natherul | i just updated omen and now i cant make it show at all, any ideas on how to fix? ^^ |
| 19:02.49 | NimbleRabit | Pitbull not working for anyone else? |
| 19:02.54 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: if you want to use disembedded libs, be prepared to fix them yourself by installing libs when stuff goes wrong |
| 19:03.06 | durcyn | Ellipsis: would you like to add LDT3 to the tocs or shall I? |
| 19:03.11 | kenlyric | I was prepared for it. |
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| 19:03.13 | Ellipsis | I can't atm, so it would be great if you could |
| 19:03.22 | kenlyric | doesn't mean I'm not goingg to point it out. |
| 19:03.29 | cladhaire | NivFreak: why so? |
| 19:03.43 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: do I need to lecture you on the wonders of jira? |
| 19:04.13 | kenlyric | that way lies your pain and suffering |
| 19:04.47 | kenlyric | woot, libgraph-2.0 |
| 19:04.50 | Ellipsis | what if I'm into that? |
| 19:04.57 | kenlyric | it's like some kind of disease |
| 19:05.05 | Funkeh` | Adding code is fun, removing code is definately funner |
| 19:05.17 | Funkeh` | kicks CIA-9 |
| 19:05.17 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 19:05.26 | Funkeh` | fine |
| 19:05.32 | kenlyric | everyone always forgets the poor disembedders |
| 19:05.36 | Natherul | i just updated omen and now i cant make it show at all, any ideas on how to fix? ^^ |
| 19:06.01 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 19:06.08 | kenlyric | odd |
| 19:06.17 | kenlyric | it says I have libgraph2 installed :/ |
| 19:06.29 | Shirik | Antiarc: ping |
| 19:06.29 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: ck doesn't forget disembedders because he and I both run disembedded |
| 19:06.41 | Natherul | and i get these errors like threat-2.0.lua:491 attempt to call global 'UnitGUID'(a nil value) |
| 19:06.43 | Ellipsis | however he can forget the WAU disembedders because they're stupid anyway :P |
| 19:06.49 | Hobby | Pitbull not updated for 2.4 yet, or am I an idiot? |
| 19:06.59 | Ellipsis | Hobby: it should be working, what are you having trouble with? |
| 19:07.08 | keiss | Natherul: you updated to a 2.4 version |
| 19:07.18 | kenlyric | wau disembeded is the only way to fly |
| 19:07.28 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: disembedded is for people who want to take care of their libs themselves |
| 19:07.55 | NimbleRabit | not really |
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| 19:07.55 | mytos | what problem are you having hobby, is yours just not showing up at all like mine? |
| 19:07.55 | NimbleRabit | disembedded generally just works |
| 19:07.55 | kenlyric | no, they're for people who don't want 30 copies of each lib |
| 19:07.57 | kenlyric | who don't want each mod updated when a lib is updated |
| 19:08.05 | kergoth | disembedded is for people who want accurate performance numbers, at least more so |
| 19:08.05 | kenlyric | who write to very slow USB drives each day and night |
| 19:08.07 | durcyn | cowtip 65811 should have LDT-3 solved btw |
| 19:08.07 | NeoTron | I noticed quite a significant drop in loading speed when using embedded libs for all my addons |
| 19:08.10 | kenlyric | PEOPLE LIKE ME! |
| 19:08.54 | NimbleRabit | pitbull is giving me an error that it can't find DogTag-3.0 |
| 19:09.08 | durcyn | NimbleRabit: that's because it can't find DogTag-3.0. |
| 19:09.08 | dylanm | I wonder what could solve that |
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| 19:09.21 | NimbleRabit | But I can't find dogtag-3.0 |
| 19:09.24 | NimbleRabit | on files.wowace |
| 19:09.28 | dylanm | LibDogTag |
| 19:09.32 | dylanm | Look under L. |
| 19:09.33 | Zeksie | heh. our GM updated mods... pwnd. |
| 19:09.34 | durcyn | NimbleRabit: you'll need LDT-3 and LDT-Unit-3 |
| 19:09.46 | mytos | its acctually erroring soo hard that its causing my video driver to error out |
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| 19:11.36 | NimbleRabit | wow didn't see it before lol |
| 19:11.56 | kenlyric | I wonder what this text in the middle of my screen is... probably witchhunt |
| 19:12.12 | Hobby | Ellipsis: Pitbull isn't even loading for me, like it's not installed :/ |
| 19:12.49 | Ellipsis | Hobby: what error messages are you getting? |
| 19:12.54 | Hobby | ..\AddOns\PitBull\VisualHeal\VisualHeal.lua line 68: attempt to call method 'RegisterPitBullModuleDependencies' (a nil value) |
| 19:13.00 | Hobby | sorry took me a minute to trace it |
| 19:13.17 | Ellipsis | what's the *first* error message you're getting |
| 19:13.38 | Hobby | one sec, lots happening hehe, trying to trace it |
| 19:13.58 | Hobby | oo loib dog tag 3.0 |
| 19:14.01 | Hobby | lib* |
| 19:14.35 | Ellipsis | are you using disembedded libs? |
| 19:15.01 | Nandini | cowtip seems to have installed libdogtag-2.0 as a dependency but is asking for 3.0 in-game |
| 19:15.05 | Killmore | [2008/03/25 15:13:13-674-x1]: LibDogTag-3.0\LibDogTag-3.0.lua:296: assertion failed! |
| 19:15.16 | Hobby | normal wau updates |
| 19:15.36 | Ellipsis | hmm |
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| 19:16.17 | Ellipsis | that's bad Killmore x.x |
| 19:17.07 | Nandini | yup, cowtip has LibDogTag-2.0 listed in X-Embeds but seems to be looking for LibDogTag-3.0 in-game, Jira? |
| 19:17.12 | durcyn | PB should have LDT3/LDTU3 in toc/embeds/externals as of 65813 btw |
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| 19:17.17 | Ellipsis | durcyn: can you do cowtip too? |
| 19:17.20 | durcyn | did |
| 19:17.26 | Ellipsis | awesome, thanks |
| 19:17.27 | durcyn | zip script ETA 4 minutes though |
| 19:17.43 | Ellipsis | gives durcyn a cookie |
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| 19:17.55 | durcyn | woo. |
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| 19:18.40 | Hobby | Ellipsis: The current zip references LibDogTag-3.0 still |
| 19:18.47 | Ellipsis | wait 5 mins |
| 19:18.50 | Hobby | k |
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| 19:19.01 | kenlyric | witchhunt is the thing which tracks spell casts of people around you, right? |
| 19:19.07 | kergoth | yep |
| 19:19.20 | kergoth | well, enemies anyway |
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| 19:19.33 | kenlyric | this seems to be everyone |
| 19:19.47 | kergoth | that seems a tad verbose |
| 19:19.59 | kenlyric | and none of the / commands seem to work. |
| 19:20.07 | kergoth | try /ace3 and get it in the dropdown |
| 19:20.17 | kergoth | or via the interface options window |
| 19:20.20 | kenlyric | oooh |
| 19:20.35 | kergoth | the new wh is really quite nice |
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| 19:20.55 | kenlyric | yeah |
| 19:20.57 | kenlyric | options! |
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| 19:21.13 | durcyn | hmm, it really should register a slash command though, for when it's running embedded |
| 19:21.22 | nevcairiel | i recommend you check the new Interface Options in the MainMenu |
| 19:21.25 | nevcairiel | before you go to /ace3 |
| 19:21.28 | kergoth | indeed |
| 19:21.31 | nevcairiel | it looks way better in there |
| 19:21.35 | durcyn | oh, right. 2.4. |
| 19:21.43 | kenlyric | need fubar_ace3 to access this window :) |
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| 19:21.55 | kenlyric | I couldn't see that window nev |
| 19:21.56 | kergoth | isnt used to the interface options window being there quite yet |
| 19:21.59 | kenlyric | the text was above it |
| 19:22.09 | nevcairiel | what text? |
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| 19:22.22 | kergoth | has aloft been updated for 2.4? |
| 19:22.23 | Cleanse | was someone fixing pitbull? |
| 19:22.27 | Cleanse | and cowtip |
| 19:22.29 | kenlyric | the text witchhunt was displaying |
| 19:22.42 | kenlyric | had a higher strata than the options window, I guess |
| 19:22.48 | Aeyan | No, Aloft gets few updates |
| 19:22.50 | keiss | no 2.4 parrot ? /cry |
| 19:22.56 | kergoth | :( |
| 19:22.58 | nevcairiel | yeah the options window itself is pretty low on strata |
| 19:22.59 | kergoth | i'll miss pretty nameplates |
| 19:23.19 | Nandini | yes someone is fixing x-embeds in cowtip and pitbull to reference dogtag-3.0, should be available in 5-10 mins |
| 19:23.35 | Cleanse | cool |
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| 19:24.00 | durcyn | should be avaiable 3 minutes ago |
| 19:24.25 | durcyn | cowtip 65811 and pitbull 65813 have new dogtag in toc/embeds/externals |
| 19:25.18 | Nandini | just waiting for files to build the new zips i think |
| 19:25.39 | Nandini | i always wait 20 mins before checking anyways, it might be there already |
| 19:25.39 | Ellipsis | why do so many people rely on automatic dependency download |
| 19:25.47 | Ellipsis | without knowing how to fix their own shit |
| 19:26.05 | ZealotOnAStick | probably because someone told them to. |
| 19:26.14 | Ellipsis | someone should be slapped |
| 19:26.19 | ZealotOnAStick | I really wish there was an easy way to filter by toc version on files. |
| 19:26.20 | Nandini | why do so many authors fail to update their embeds with their own updated libraries? :P |
| 19:26.20 | Hobby | the embeds are boken too :/ |
| 19:26.32 | Nandini | they should be slapped! |
| 19:26.40 | Dunreith | slaps all around! |
| 19:26.47 | Ellipsis | Nandini: he was rushing to get dogtag-3.0 ready before 2.4, didn't quite get around to the x-embeds |
| 19:27.10 | Elzarath | so hows the wowace file servers holding up :-) |
| 19:27.11 | Ellipsis | he probably didn't want them set until 2.4 went live |
| 19:27.29 | Aeyan | CIA is down, but the files seem to be doing alright so far |
| 19:27.44 | durcyn | you should let CK know that his user base demands he be available at 4 AM every tuesday just in case there's a patch, Ellipsis. |
| 19:27.50 | durcyn | just in case. |
| 19:28.23 | NeoTron | out of curiosity is LibDogTag-3.0 backwards incompatible? |
| 19:28.29 | ZealotOnAStick | that shouldn't be a problem, that's only like midnight his time. |
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| 19:28.34 | ZealotOnAStick | ;) |
| 19:28.41 | durcyn | NeoTron: it's 2.4-only afaik |
| 19:28.47 | NeoTron | well I know that |
| 19:28.56 | durcyn | oh, tags? not sure |
| 19:28.56 | NeoTron | just thinking API-wise |
| 19:29.14 | kergoth | he changed some syntax |
| 19:29.16 | kergoth | improved it |
| 19:29.18 | kergoth | good changes imo |
| 19:29.20 | iceonnet | where shall i report bugs for addons listed at wowace? |
| 19:29.40 | ZealotOnAStick | I am sad at no Parrot, though. |
| 19:29.42 | Josh_Borke | iceonnet: the forums |
| 19:29.55 | durcyn | iceonnet: JIRA for some, what's the addon? |
| 19:29.56 | iceonnet | yawn =P |
| 19:30.01 | iceonnet | baggins |
| 19:30.24 | Nandini | yes, feel free to go to the forums and demand your fixes there :) |
| 19:30.28 | Grum | Can any jewelcrafter confirm the 23hr cooldown on the Brilliant Glass recipe on a live realm? |
| 19:30.47 | Xinhuan | i think you need rep |
| 19:30.50 | Xinhuan | to get the recipe |
| 19:30.56 | Xinhuan | and nobody's got any rep yet |
| 19:30.59 | Grum | mmm |
| 19:31.01 | NeoTron | I presume it still is |
| 19:31.07 | Grum | The recipe is trainable from the Jewelcrafting trainer @ 350. |
| 19:31.09 | NeoTron | same as the void crystal |
| 19:31.13 | Jagobah | seems like bartender3 or minimalist isn't getting rod of the default interface bar |
| 19:31.42 | Nandini | bt3 works fine for me, it was the first addon i installed |
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| 19:32.10 | Primer | sigh, realm went green, tried to login, and it's down |
| 19:32.14 | Primer | now it's red again |
| 19:32.18 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: dogtag-3.0 won't run on pre-2.4, if that's what you're asking |
| 19:32.31 | Fisker- | kisses |
| 19:32.31 | Gngsk | so the stupid chat settings are still busted on live? |
| 19:32.41 | Jagobah | hmmm let's see what other mod it could be |
| 19:33.11 | NeoTron | zomg need x-perl update! |
| 19:33.13 | Gngsk | ~framexml |
| 19:33.14 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 19:33.17 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: that is not what I'm asking |
| 19:33.34 | Josh_Borke | Gngsk: a friend is having trouble with his chat settings too |
| 19:33.38 | Xinhuan | kicks CIA-9 |
| 19:33.38 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 19:33.44 | Ellipsis | um...well the tag syntax changed in a way that breaks backwards compatibility as well |
| 19:33.46 | kebinusan | lotsa stuff still lookin for parserlib I see |
| 19:34.03 | NeoTron | does 2.0 even work in 2.4? |
| 19:34.16 | Gngsk | Josh_Borke, yah I have guild chat in a window I don't want it, click [x] guild chat, uncheck it, then reloadui and it's back |
| 19:34.28 | Josh_Borke | Gngsk: exact same problem he is having |
| 19:34.42 | Killmore | Grum: 23h cooldown, confirm |
| 19:34.53 | Gngsk | yah, I'm installing the new framexml atm so I'll see if I can hack around it |
| 19:34.53 | NeoTron | oh btw |
| 19:35.06 | NeoTron | they fixed the wanderin combat log issue rightr? :P |
| 19:35.27 | Arrowmaster | they better have |
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| 19:35.39 | Osstia | NeoTron: how bax is xperl? |
| 19:35.39 | Gngsk | if not ChatFrame2.SetPoint = function() return end gets rid of it iirc |
| 19:35.57 | NeoTron | one issue I had on 2.4 too was that the defauly cast bar 1) didn't get hidden by quartz or x-perl, 2) it kept wandering about |
| 19:36.12 | NeoTron | Osstia: bax? X-Perl worked, except for the cast bar, fine for me on 2.4 PTR |
| 19:36.15 | Gngsk | NeoTron, if you had x-perl and quartz enabled at the same time chances are that's your issue |
| 19:36.24 | NeoTron | Gngsk: nah I do that on live |
| 19:36.35 | Gngsk | I have only quartz enabled and it's hidden just fine |
| 19:38.02 | NeoTron | does anyone have an add on that allows you to bind a button to "mount / unmount"? |
| 19:38.10 | Arrowmaster | spellbinder |
| 19:38.20 | NeoTron | since 2.3 or 2.3.x or something my addon keeps trying to remount immediately after unmounting |
| 19:38.28 | NeoTron | i.e the "smart action" feature |
| 19:38.28 | kergoth | bongos3/bartender4 can keybind macros and spells directly |
| 19:38.31 | kergoth | dunno about items |
| 19:38.31 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: 2.0 probably works in 2.4, but addons should definitely switch asap |
| 19:38.34 | kergoth | i use a mount macro myself |
| 19:38.44 | NeoTron | kergoth: my mount macro I tried had the same issue |
| 19:38.48 | Funkeh` | ~seen nymbia |
| 19:38.52 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-24-8-188-199.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 22h 44m 20s ago, saying: 'that should enable you to keep your garbage down to whatever strings need to be thrown around in the process'. |
| 19:38.54 | kergoth | weird |
| 19:39.13 | kergoth | so doing a /use on the mount will unmount and remount insteado f just unmountign? |
| 19:39.15 | NeoTron | I use GoGoMount |
| 19:39.19 | NeoTron | maybe there's an updated version |
| 19:39.21 | kergoth | modify the macro to use /unmount or whatever it is |
| 19:39.37 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.43 | Osstia | NeoTron: s/bax/bad/ was just curious if it was still functional. I hadn't seen a 2.4 update |
| 19:39.52 | durcyn | not sure why people think they need an addon |
| 19:40.18 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.20 | Zeksie | is away -( Silly SSC alts run )- at 07:40p -( P:On / L:On )- |
| 19:40.28 | durcyn | then /dismount on the second line, done. |
| 19:40.36 | breser_ | Weee: ..\AddOns\Mendeleev\Mendeleev.lua line 388: |
| 19:40.36 | breser_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.47 | NeoTron | durcyn: again my macro where I tried that kept umounting and immediately mounting me |
| 19:40.59 | Arrowmaster | i use /dismount [flying] [modifier] |
| 19:41.00 | NeoTron | maybe I had some issue in the macro but I'm pretty sure I did not |
| 19:41.05 | Primer | mounts NeoTron |
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| 19:41.11 | Primer | giddyup! |
| 19:41.14 | durcyn | sounds like your macro fails pretty hard, then. |
| 19:41.22 | kergoth | NeoTron: if the problem is /use not unmounting properly, like i said, use /dismount to do it explicitly |
| 19:41.25 | kergoth | NeoTron: like durcyn just showed |
| 19:41.46 | Ellipsis | no, the problem is if you explicitly dismount the macro goes on to the next line and mounts you again |
| 19:41.55 | Ellipsis | the solution is to REMOVE the /dismount |
| 19:42.04 | peragor | What does the line through the addon name signify in WowAceUpdater? |
| 19:42.06 | kergoth | sounds like peoples macros just suck |
| 19:42.13 | durcyn | nah, because then you don't dismount if you change from a flyable to noflyable zone on the other mount |
| 19:42.27 | durcyn | forcing the /dismount at the end is appropriate. spamming the macro is not. |
| 19:42.31 | Arrowmaster | no the solution is to add [nomounted] (or is it [nomount]?) to the /use |
| 19:42.33 | kergoth | if /dismount doesnt stop the macor, stop it yourself or use [mounted] and [nomounted] |
| 19:42.43 | Ellipsis | you can't |
| 19:42.49 | Arrowmaster | can too |
| 19:42.51 | Ellipsis | because /dismount is evaluated instantly, you're then not mounted |
| 19:42.57 | NeoTron | I also like gogomount because it handles travel forms (ghost wolf etc) |
| 19:43.01 | Ellipsis | you can't tell whether you were mounted before it or not. |
| 19:43.04 | peragor | What does the line through the addon name signify in WowAceUpdater? |
| 19:43.10 | Arrowmaster | thats why you dont put /dismount first |
| 19:43.10 | Grum | spanks Ellipsis |
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| 19:43.22 | durcyn | uh, straight from my macros-cache.txt |
| 19:43.24 | durcyn | MACRO 16777217 "mount300" Ability_Mount_NetherdrakePurple |
| 19:43.28 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.33 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.51 | Ellipsis | if you do that you still start mounting again if you hit the macro while on a different mount |
| 19:43.57 | durcyn | nomounted. |
| 19:44.11 | kebinusan | is there a working quartz in the branches somewhere? |
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| 19:44.19 | Grum | should be a 2.4 |
| 19:44.24 | durcyn | kebinusan: there's a working quartz in trunk |
| 19:44.26 | Ellipsis | example: netherwing ledge, that will dismount and remount you because it doesn't recognize the netherdrake buff as a mount |
| 19:44.35 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 19:44.36 | durcyn | Ellipsis: nope |
| 19:44.41 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis fails |
| 19:44.41 | Grum | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Quartz/2.4/ |
| 19:44.53 | Grum | oh and trunk as well now? good! |
| 19:44.54 | nevcairiel | trunk Quartz works fine on 2.4 too |
| 19:44.55 | Ellipsis | then they fixed it since I last set up my macros |
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| 19:45.00 | durcyn | trunk worked fine on PTR |
| 19:45.02 | kebinusan | my quartz trunk give sme errors |
| 19:45.08 | Ellipsis | because I couldn't get *any* macro to work properly on netherwing ledge |
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| 19:45.24 | durcyn | Ellipsis: I've been using that macro since 3 days after BC release |
| 19:45.28 | Arrowmaster | no your macro always failed, because the netherwing ledge buff has always been recognized with [mounted] and [nomounted] |
| 19:45.36 | Ellipsis | my macro works fine tyvm |
| 19:45.38 | kebinusan | AceModuleCore-2.0-43318 (Ace2):196: AceOO-2.0: Cannot explicitly inherit from the same mixin twice |
| 19:45.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. |
| 19:45.48 | kebinusan | seems to be the big one in all my quartz stuff |
| 19:46.01 | ZealotOnAStick | How do I get Bongos3 to allow me to right-click self-cast? |
| 19:46.09 | Grum | toc is still ## Interface: 20300 on trunk |
| 19:46.09 | Ellipsis | /cast [modifier:shift] Summon Dreadsteed; [flyable,noflying] Reins of the Violet Netherwing Drake; [modifier:ctrl] Summon Felsteed; Summon Dreadsteed |
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| 19:46.22 | Arrowmaster | your macro fails |
| 19:46.27 | Ellipsis | how so? |
| 19:46.32 | Arrowmaster | you dont have mounted checks |
| 19:46.38 | Ellipsis | I don't need them, I have autodismount off |
| 19:46.47 | Kaaosa | I'll bet he can tell when he's mounted. |
| 19:46.52 | Ellipsis | she* |
| 19:46.55 | Kaaosa | Whatever |
| 19:46.56 | NeoTron | it* |
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| 19:47.00 | Ellipsis | your mom* |
| 19:47.01 | kenlyric | you can't dismount using that macro? |
| 19:47.05 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: yes, I can |
| 19:47.10 | Ellipsis | and guess what, it has no /dismount |
| 19:47.22 | kenlyric | warlock trickery? |
| 19:47.23 | Arrowmaster | not if you use your dreadsteed in outland |
| 19:47.37 | Ellipsis | if I use my dreadsteed in outland I'm just messing around anyway |
| 19:47.38 | kergoth | well, you'd have to hold shift to unmount it as well as to usei t |
| 19:47.41 | kergoth | no? |
| 19:47.43 | Ellipsis | no |
| 19:48.01 | Ellipsis | the only downside to my macro is I can't dismount while moving |
| 19:48.11 | Ellipsis | but I have a dismount key anyway |
| 19:48.21 | Ellipsis | or I just cast a spell to dismount me |
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| 19:48.34 | Arrowmaster | cast [nomounted,flyable] Reins of the Azure Netherwing Drake; [nomounted] Black War Kodo |
| 19:48.34 | NivFreak | cladhaire: turns out the changed my ZA head from 40 block rating to 40 defense rating |
| 19:48.36 | Arrowmaster | dismount [noflying] |
| 19:48.36 | Josh_Borke | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0 <-- full of fail |
| 19:48.41 | Arrowmaster | dismount [modifier] |
| 19:48.48 | cladhaire | NivFreak: weird |
| 19:48.50 | Ellipsis | Josh_Borke: so fix it :P |
| 19:48.51 | Xinhuan | i can't dismount my mount while moving with it |
| 19:48.53 | Xinhuan | its kinda annoying |
| 19:48.57 | Josh_Borke | Ellipsis: nuh uh, you can't make me |
| 19:49.00 | durcyn | oh ffs, did antiarc clobber Threat-1.0 entirely? |
| 19:49.00 | peragor | Hey guys, in WowAceUpdater, I have lines striken through some of the addon names. What does that mean? |
| 19:49.07 | *** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-088-076-051-212.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:49.07 | Ellipsis | Josh_Borke: not even if I bribe you with cookies? |
| 19:49.13 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: threat-1.0 doesnt work on 2.4 |
| 19:49.16 | Josh_Borke | Ellipsis: nope, not even for cookies |
| 19:49.21 | Ellipsis | what about...other bribes? |
| 19:49.24 | Arrowmaster | peragor: outdated toc |
| 19:49.29 | Josh_Borke | Ellipsis: sorry, i only take cash |
| 19:49.33 | Ellipsis | that can be arranged |
| 19:49.42 | Jagobah | guess parrot isn't working with 2.4 yet |
| 19:49.48 | Ellipsis | not quite |
| 19:50.14 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: Yes, that's all well and good, but PB's still trying to use it. |
| 19:50.26 | Fisker- | btw Zeksie |
| 19:50.30 | Fisker- | he upgraded |
| 19:50.31 | Fisker- | z0rz |
| 19:50.37 | Fisker- | and it's still happening |
| 19:50.37 | Fisker- | :O |
| 19:50.39 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: not a threat issue |
| 19:50.45 | Fisker- | gonna try a new sv later |
| 19:50.48 | Ellipsis | nobody said it was a threat issue |
| 19:50.55 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 19:51.01 | Ellipsis | it's rather annoying that threat was removed from trunk though |
| 19:51.07 | Ellipsis | some people are still on 2.3 |
| 19:51.10 | Arrowmaster | so he should be bitching at you to fix it Ellipsis |
| 19:51.12 | Primer | why is my realm always one of the last ones to come back... |
| 19:51.19 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: I can't fix it, have him bitch at durcyn |
| 19:51.23 | NeoTron | 2.3 ppl really shouldn't update today |
| 19:51.39 | kebinusan | most of my dogtags seem fucked. |
| 19:51.49 | Ellipsis | kebinusan: that's because they probably are |
| 19:51.55 | durcyn | okay, ripped Threat-1.0 out of PB, rev 65829 |
| 19:52.01 | durcyn | recommend disabling threatbar |
| 19:52.05 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: half trunk was updated to 2.4, if anyone on 2.3 updated today, threat is their slightest problem :P |
| 19:52.11 | Ellipsis | threatbar uses threat-2.0 on 2.4 |
| 19:52.21 | kergoth | threatbar? |
| 19:52.22 | kebinusan | Ellipsis: wonderful |
| 19:52.29 | kebinusan | did the syntax change or something? |
| 19:52.30 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: pretty sure if people had to choose just *one* addon they wanted to have working, it'd be omen/threat |
| 19:52.31 | kergoth | oh, pitbull module, right |
| 19:52.37 | Ellipsis | kebinusan: yes |
| 19:52.42 | kebinusan | ... |
| 19:52.49 | durcyn | kergoth: ThreatUpdated was replaced with a callback iirc |
| 19:52.56 | durcyn | er kebinusan |
| 19:53.01 | nevcairiel | I totally support Antiarc's reasoning for replacing Omen rather then creating Omen2 |
| 19:53.11 | Ellipsis | so do I |
| 19:53.18 | kebinusan | thats kinda |
| 19:53.20 | nevcairiel | and US people want Omen too |
| 19:53.23 | Arrowmaster | does Threat-1.0 have a Threat-1.0 folder in it? |
| 19:53.24 | nevcairiel | for today |
| 19:53.27 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 19:53.30 | Ellipsis | I just think people need to stop being impatient about breaking shit |
| 19:53.38 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: i just wish he'd set Threat-1.0 to disable itself on 2.4 until such time as all realms were updated |
| 19:53.44 | NeoTron | never change the name /major version on an addon unless they are backwards incompatible |
| 19:53.45 | Ellipsis | so many people didn't even wait until maintenance to commit 2.3-incompatible changes |
| 19:53.46 | nevcairiel | people just need to learn to not update a day before patch |
| 19:53.47 | durcyn | instead of nuking it from orbit |
| 19:54.10 | durcyn | now we just get 'haha, fuck you europe" |
| 19:54.18 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * ra62249a342 10StealYourCarbon/ (5 files): Add button to merchant frame, trim down slash handler |
| 19:54.19 | Arrowmaster | people should know better than to update around the time of a patch |
| 19:54.24 | Josh_Borke | coughs |
| 19:54.24 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: or devs need to learn to not break things unnecessarily |
| 19:54.25 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * r294e32b493 10StealYourCarbon/ (Config.lua StealYourCarbon.lua): Scrolly bits, config frame done, for now |
| 19:54.25 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * r5adc6db168 10StealYourCarbon/ (7 files): Add config frame |
| 19:54.26 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * r6c74f7bed9 10StealYourCarbon/Config.lua: More GUI goodies |
| 19:54.26 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * ra3b9b38c50 10StealYourCarbon/Config.lua: Item list in panel actually works now, needs scroll though |
| 19:54.28 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * r0136c30625 10StealYourCarbon/ (Config.lua StealYourCarbon.lua): Tweak config panel subtitle for new features |
| 19:54.31 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * r79aa164a6c 10StealYourCarbon/tekKonfig/ (5 files): Upgrade tekKonfig |
| 19:54.32 | Josh_Borke | release to wowi > wowace :-P |
| 19:54.34 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * reccf042e1e 10StealYourCarbon/Config.lua: Clean up item list's ReceiveDrag handler |
| 19:54.34 | Ellipsis | wb CIA-9 |
| 19:54.37 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * r22c8caf32f 10StealYourCarbon/ (Config.lua StealYourCarbon.lua): Bags can now be opened when the config panel is open, so make it so we can drag and drop to add items |
| 19:54.38 | ulic | look who woke up. |
| 19:54.40 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * r758455e05b 10StealYourCarbon/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Upgrade tekKonfig |
| 19:54.41 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: spam more pls |
| 19:54.49 | kergoth | whee |
| 19:54.58 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * r60630dbb07 10StealYourCarbon/ (Config.lua StealYourCarbon.toc): Add "About" panel, TOC metadata |
| 19:54.58 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 07master * rc8f3320f34 10StealYourCarbon/: Merge branch '2.4config' |
| 19:54.59 | ulic | actually that's just tekkubs stuff, so wowace stuff is still messed up. |
| 19:55.00 | Kaaosa | So what's up with all my DogTags being suddenly broken? :\ |
| 19:55.08 | Ellipsis | Kaaosa: dogtag syntax changed |
| 19:55.10 | durcyn | Kaaosa: welcome to the future! |
| 19:55.19 | Kaaosa | GOD DAMN YOU FUTURE |
| 19:55.19 | Snago | Tekkub: You're trying to get CIA-9 kicked for spamming? |
| 19:55.20 | Ellipsis | default tags will get fixed soon |
| 19:55.24 | Kaaosa | >:[ |
| 19:55.37 | Kaaosa | HideZero is unknown now? Worst future ever D: |
| 19:55.39 | Tekkub | shut your whine holes |
| 19:55.41 | ckknight | Kaaosa: :Hide(0) |
| 19:55.50 | ckknight | Kaaosa: it's not all bad |
| 19:55.57 | ckknight | Kaaosa: P.S. soz |
| 19:56.04 | Kaaosa | I'm sure it'll be great once I fix everything |
| 19:56.11 | Kaaosa | But for now, GRIPE GRIPE GRIPE |
| 19:57.08 | Ellipsis | replace HideZero with ~= 0 |
| 19:57.12 | Ellipsis | problem solved :P |
| 19:57.26 | durcyn | ckknight: sorry for touching your stuff, but ellipsis told me to |
| 19:57.32 | ckknight | durcyn: what'd you touch? |
| 19:57.33 | durcyn | you should punish her. |
| 19:57.38 | Kaaosa | Is the new syntax detailed somewhere in the wiki? :x |
| 19:57.43 | ckknight | did you get into my Nazi memorabilia? |
| 19:57.45 | durcyn | added LDT-3 to toc/embeds/externals in cowtip and pitbull |
| 19:57.49 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * re7a4a190a7 10ControlFreak/ (5 files): Moved config frames to new Blizzy GUI, basic stuff now, more to come |
| 19:57.49 | ckknight | oh man |
| 19:57.49 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r37d3127dcb 10ControlFreak/ConfigDB.lua: Fucking typos |
| 19:57.49 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r9f70bf216b 10ControlFreak/ (6 files): More GUI work, slowly replacing WidgetWarlock |
| 19:57.49 | ckknight | thanks |
| 19:57.50 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r2b55bf6f3a 10ControlFreak/ (6 files): |
| 19:57.50 | durcyn | yes, and i broke the plate. sorry. |
| 19:57.51 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: More config panel work. |
| 19:57.53 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: Now consistant with Blizzy's layouts. |
| 19:57.53 | ckknight | now I don't have to |
| 19:57.55 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: DB panel still needs some work though. |
| 19:57.58 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r8335514aac 10ControlFreak/ConfigDB.lua: Reworking DB Profile config frame |
| 19:58.02 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r632be1d11a 10ControlFreak/ (Config.lua ControlFreak.lua): Slash command works again, huzzah! |
| 19:58.02 | Nandini | eva braun's black lipstick! |
| 19:58.05 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r44b949fae7 10ControlFreak/ConfigDB.lua: Make profile sort case-insensative |
| 19:58.05 | Ellipsis | ckknight: there's an assert failing in dogtag-3.0 |
| 19:58.08 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r2dad567110 10ControlFreak/: Merge branches '2.4config' and '2.4pallyTurnEvil' |
| 19:58.11 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r985cc635fe 10ControlFreak/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Upgrading tekKonfig |
| 19:58.12 | TE|kulaar | tekkub goes crazy |
| 19:58.14 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * r4a92fd614c 10ControlFreak/ (Config.lua ControlFreak.toc): Add "About" panel and TOC metadata |
| 19:58.15 | ckknight | Ellipsis: oh? |
| 19:58.17 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * rb905899fb3 10ControlFreak/tekKonfig/ (5 files): Upgrade tekKonfig |
| 19:58.22 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 07master * rc6e445db4e 10ControlFreak/ClassMacrotexts.lua: Added profile for new pally spell "Turn Evil" |
| 19:58.23 | Ellipsis | [12:14:27 pm] <Killmore> [2008/03/25 15:13:13-674-x1]: LibDogTag-3.0\LibDogTag-3.0.lua:296: assertion failed! |
| 19:58.25 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: gief 2.4 Parrot soon plz? |
| 19:58.30 | kebinusan | [2008/03/25 15:57:45-1193-x4]: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Status.lua:588: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got nil) |
| 19:58.33 | durcyn | ckknight: oh, and apparently threat-1.0 doesn't exist in /trunk now, so I had to rip that out.. might want to add -2.0 to PB externals for threatbar |
| 19:58.36 | Leialyn | oh yeah, need Parrot :/ |
| 19:58.42 | kenlyric | what's wrong with none-2.4 parrot? |
| 19:58.47 | kenlyric | seemed to work fine |
| 19:58.55 | kenlyric | *non |
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| 19:59.00 | TE|kulaar | -.- |
| 19:59.05 | Ellipsis | old parrot won't work in 2.4 |
| 19:59.06 | kenlyric | maybe I hallucinated those numbers |
| 19:59.14 | kenlyric | it doesn't throw an error... |
| 19:59.14 | Leialyn | nods |
| 19:59.19 | Kalman| | It doesn't throw errors. |
| 19:59.22 | Kalman| | It doesn't work, either. |
| 19:59.29 | Recluse | eesh, i do not like the new combat log - have to wait 2-3 minutes for it to parse the thing before i can see the last message |
| 19:59.40 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: it's expecting to parse combat log strings that never arrive - it won't do anything :P |
| 19:59.46 | Ellipsis | well, it might do loot messages or something |
| 19:59.50 | Kaaosa | My question I think got swarmed by tekkub's updates - is the new DogTag syntax explained somewhere? |
| 20:00.00 | Ellipsis | Kaaosa: there's some info in the unit frames forums |
| 20:00.05 | Kaaosa | Okay |
| 20:00.08 | Leialyn | I don't want to set up sct for raid, giev Parrot ^^; |
| 20:00.20 | ckknight | durcyn: yea, that needs to happen |
| 20:00.32 | Ellipsis | ckknight: does /dog work in 3.0? |
| 20:00.37 | ckknight | no, Ellipsis |
| 20:00.38 | ckknight | soz |
| 20:00.40 | Ellipsis | bah |
| 20:00.43 | ckknight | haven't done that yet |
| 20:00.52 | NeoTron | I'll add /cat |
| 20:00.55 | NeoTron | then they can fight |
| 20:00.55 | ckknight | Ellipsis: if you'd like a task to work on, it should be copy-paste with a few fixes |
| 20:01.07 | ckknight | I'm srsly busy here at the curse hq |
| 20:01.14 | Ellipsis | I can't commit |
| 20:01.29 | ckknight | that's your own fault |
| 20:01.29 | Ellipsis | and yeah, I figured you were too busy to do it - just asking so I know where to send the users who come whining about tag syntax |
| 20:01.31 | Kalman| | So is there actually a UNIT_DIED event now, or is wowwiki just getting my hopes up? |
| 20:01.35 | Ellipsis | it's not my fault |
| 20:01.38 | Ellipsis | the client just refuses to work |
| 20:01.42 | ckknight | yes, it is, becauase you're unwilling to reboot |
| 20:01.53 | ulic | Kalman|: yes there is |
| 20:01.58 | Killmore | [2008/03/25 16:00:48-677-x3]: LibDogTag-3.0\LibDogTag-3.0.lua:296: assertion failed! |
| 20:02.00 | Killmore | LibDogTag-3.0\LibDogTag-3.0.lua:296: in function `AddFontString' |
| 20:02.11 | Tekkub | there, I took my shit out of the CIA till I'm done merging |
| 20:02.13 | Tekkub | assholes |
| 20:02.13 | NeoTron | Kalman|: there is |
| 20:02.26 | kenlyric | hehehe |
| 20:02.27 | ckknight | Killmore: any other errors? |
| 20:02.41 | Aiiane | im sure this question has been asked already, but a quick check of the recent log didn't shed light: is there a reason pitbull isn't in the index atm? |
| 20:02.52 | ZealotOnAStick | I was gratified to see the spam, tek. Now I won't know if there's updated squeenix, tekkompare, or controlfreak |
| 20:03.00 | NeoTron | UNIT_KILL and PARTY_KILL to be exact |
| 20:03.00 | durcyn | Aiiane: library issues. look for 65829. |
| 20:03.07 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis-- (n=ellipsis@c-98-207-97-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:03.16 | Jagobah | I see omen listing LibDropdown-1.0 as a dependency, but I don't see such a library existing! |
| 20:03.19 | kergoth | heh, i'm working on improving the git ci acommit script some |
| 20:03.25 | Tekkub | Squeenix and TG |
| 20:03.32 | Tekkub | tK won't change unless it breaks |
| 20:03.33 | Ellipsis | Aiiane: it will be fixed next time the files page updates |
| 20:03.39 | Aiiane | Ellipsis: kk |
| 20:03.39 | ckknight | kergoth: awesomesauce |
| 20:04.02 | Tekkub | the problem is kergy's script is re-announcing commits again when I merge |
| 20:04.11 | Tekkub | which it should only announce the merge commit |
| 20:04.29 | durcyn | Jagobah: it's an OptDep, shouldn't break anything if it's not there. |
| 20:04.45 | Jagobah | >_< |
| 20:04.47 | ZealotOnAStick | linky your site again, tek? I don't have all my bookmarks on this system. |
| 20:04.55 | Josh_Borke | github.com/tekkub |
| 20:05.02 | Tekkub | tekkub.net |
| 20:05.18 | Josh_Borke | man |
| 20:05.21 | Josh_Borke | what is this junk? |
| 20:05.22 | kergoth | Tekkub: one quick way would be to see if any of the pushed commits is a merge commit, and if so, dont report any of its children.. but thatd still not work for a merge thats a fsat forward.. course most arent, unless you're rebasing |
| 20:05.25 | ZealotOnAStick | oh, didn't know you had the domain yet. |
| 20:05.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:05.41 | Kaaosa | I can't find the thread you were talking about Ellipsis :[ |
| 20:06.25 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11576.msg186111#msg186111 |
| 20:06.29 | Ellipsis | that should have most of what you need |
| 20:06.37 | NivFreak | holy shit |
| 20:06.44 | NivFreak | PMC is 45mp5 from the set bonus now... |
| 20:06.53 | Nandini | pitbull isn't listed in the index because threat-1.0 is nonfunctional and has been removed to prevent errors |
| 20:06.53 | Kaaosa | Thanks :V |
| 20:07.30 | durcyn | well, there could still be something wrong with the externals |
| 20:07.32 | durcyn | sec |
| 20:07.45 | durcyn | eww, Parser-4.0 |
| 20:07.45 | Josh_Borke | it's because of threat, fix it durcyn |
| 20:07.46 | NeoTron | Seems like Omen isn't embedding AceHook-3.0 correctly |
| 20:07.47 | Josh_Borke | :-P |
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| 20:08.38 | *** join/#wowace Starinnia (n=chatzill@d47-69-74-203.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 20:09.34 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: hu what now? |
| 20:09.35 | Proph | is pitbull not listed on files.wowace.com anymore? |
| 20:09.42 | Josh_Borke | Proph: correct |
| 20:09.42 | *** join/#wowace te`afkulaar (n=182Kulaa@p5B1545E5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:09.44 | Josh_Borke | Proph: it's been deleted |
| 20:09.47 | Proph | what is it called now? |
| 20:09.49 | Josh_Borke | Proph: no longer being maintained |
| 20:09.54 | kenlyric | ag_unitframes |
| 20:09.57 | durcyn | yeah, fuck pitbull anyway |
| 20:10.05 | Proph | holy crap..wow |
| 20:10.08 | kenlyric | grid |
| 20:10.09 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 20:10.10 | Proph | just like that pitbull is gone |
| 20:10.13 | Ellipsis | Proph: they're kidding |
| 20:10.19 | Proph | lol |
| 20:10.21 | Josh_Borke | of course i'm not |
| 20:10.23 | Josh_Borke | it's really gone |
| 20:10.24 | Ellipsis | it's a temporary problem, it will be back on the page as soon as it updates |
| 20:10.25 | keiss | no pitbull , no parrot , do we got a chinchilla at least ? |
| 20:10.32 | Josh_Borke | i mean, in as much as the interwebs can lose things |
| 20:10.32 | Proph | thanks ellipsis! |
| 20:10.34 | kenlyric | chinchilla does work! |
| 20:10.36 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: Omen needs AceHook-3.0 for the Healer module but it doesn't embed it so it won't work withotu standalone Ace3 atm |
| 20:10.56 | durcyn | Ellipsis: actually, i might've broken something else. wheee! |
| 20:11.02 | Ellipsis | cool |
| 20:12.06 | Aiiane | hmm, got a quick SVN path for me, so i can be impatient and not wait for the index to update? :P |
| 20:12.29 | nevcairiel | i'll fix Omen up |
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| 20:12.48 | Sekkyo | Is there an alternative to SWStats in the WoWAce world? |
| 20:12.54 | nevcairiel | recount |
| 20:13.02 | Aiiane | recount |
| 20:13.04 | Sekkyo | Does it require that everyone uses it? |
| 20:13.07 | Aiiane | no |
| 20:13.07 | *** join/#wowace durcyn (n=torgo@cpe-70-112-206-37.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 20:13.10 | NivFreak | man |
| 20:13.10 | kebinusan | if anyone happens to get a mirror of msbt somewhere I wouldnt mind a link |
| 20:13.12 | keiss | btw. assessment - dead/alive ? |
| 20:13.12 | Hell-Razor | i wonder how many addons are going to die because of 2.4 |
| 20:13.16 | kenlyric | well, when recount works |
| 20:13.17 | Recluse | violation? |
| 20:13.18 | NivFreak | the spirit regen changes are NUTS |
| 20:13.21 | Aiiane | more people using it = better sync'd data, but that's about it |
| 20:13.23 | kenlyric | recount assplodes right now |
| 20:13.24 | Sekkyo | SWStats looks to be dead. |
| 20:13.31 | Sekkyo | kenlyric: Any eta on a fix? |
| 20:13.36 | durcyn | Assessment's not been touched yet.. Violation has a 2.4 branch |
| 20:13.36 | Chaud | Some addon is raping my FPS. I hate patch day |
| 20:13.37 | kenlyric | dunno what's wrong with it |
| 20:13.57 | kenlyric | it says libgraph2.0 is missing, but libgraph-2.0 is there, and running. |
| 20:14.15 | Josh_Borke | load order |
| 20:14.29 | kenlyric | don't libs usually load first? |
| 20:14.34 | Xinhuan | usually |
| 20:14.38 | NeoTron | broken dependencies? |
| 20:14.47 | Proph | does an old version of Pitbull still work? |
| 20:14.48 | Xinhuan | loads of things are broken |
| 20:14.48 | dylanm | The client doesn't know. If the deps are wrong then... |
| 20:14.53 | Aiiane | Proph: doubtful |
| 20:14.57 | Proph | k |
| 20:15.09 | NeoTron | Recoutn has no OptionalDeps listed |
| 20:15.14 | NeoTron | and thus fails if you run un-embedded |
| 20:16.00 | keiss | who is the maintainer of wau ? |
| 20:16.05 | *** part/#wowace Maytrix (n=chriswya@adsl-99-155-248-60.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:16.19 | Josh_Borke | keiss: it's not |
| 20:16.19 | kenlyric | another <hero> |
| 20:16.22 | Snago | Apoco: What is RBM? |
| 20:16.33 | kebinusan | yeah one of our priests has 1011 mp5 while not casting |
| 20:16.33 | Apoco | ? |
| 20:16.35 | Apoco | wtf is CIA-9 dead? |
| 20:16.41 | Apoco | I've been waiting for my commits to go through |
| 20:16.44 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 20:16.46 | Grum | kebinusan: how much while casting? |
| 20:16.47 | kenlyric | it worked a day ago, why would she remove them? |
| 20:16.48 | keiss | Josh_Borke: its not what ? (asked multiple questions :D) |
| 20:16.50 | Apoco | k |
| 20:16.51 | Grum | (and buffed or unbuffed?) |
| 20:16.58 | kebinusan | 453 while casting |
| 20:17.00 | Apoco | RBM is RBM |
| 20:17.09 | Grum | kebinusan: that is positively insane |
| 20:17.12 | kebinusan | mostly unbuffed its a 5 man party |
| 20:17.20 | NeoTron | kebinusan: set OptionalDeps to Ace3, LibSharedMedia-3.0, LibBabble-Class-3.0, LibGraph-2.0 to fix Recount |
| 20:17.22 | Chompers | fucking azgalor, just die already |
| 20:17.23 | NimbleRabit | are there any addons to control itunes or windows media player? |
| 20:17.29 | Grum | kebinusan: full spi gear? |
| 20:17.34 | Apoco | iTunes> Only if you have a MAC |
| 20:17.39 | Apoco | and its built in |
| 20:17.42 | dylanm | \m/ |
| 20:17.43 | Apoco | WMP > No |
| 20:17.46 | kebinusan | yeah its his normal raid gear and he's a spirit whore |
| 20:17.51 | Grum | kebinusan: armory? |
| 20:17.54 | durcyn | NimbleRabit: can't be done. mac client has hotkeys, everything else you're just going to have to use an external program with hotkeys and make sure they aren't bound to keys |
| 20:17.59 | kenlyric | become an int whore |
| 20:18.02 | durcyn | er bound in-game rather |
| 20:18.31 | NimbleRabit | any suggestions for such an external program? |
| 20:18.41 | kebinusan | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Solk |
| 20:18.50 | Grum | thanks |
| 20:18.55 | Grum | lets see what he whored on :P |
| 20:19.01 | *** join/#wowace DuTempete_ (n=DuTempet@c-67-165-143-202.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 20:19.15 | kebinusan | Im not sure what he's waring on the armory atm |
| 20:19.28 | Grum | does it even get close? |
| 20:19.31 | durcyn | NimbleRabit: http://www.ipodsoft.com/index.php?/software/iremote |
| 20:19.41 | Grum | because 1000regen needs WAAAY more |
| 20:20.00 | NivFreak | I was gonna say |
| 20:20.01 | Kaaosa | Is there no replacement for the SureHP tag? |
| 20:20.03 | Fisker- | akama too much of a joke to have a bigwigs module? :D |
| 20:20.06 | NivFreak | I have better regen than that guy |
| 20:20.09 | NivFreak | on my alt |
| 20:20.13 | keiss | Fisker-: id say so :) |
| 20:20.17 | NeoTron | Fisker-: what would it need a module for? there's nothing to it |
| 20:20.23 | NeoTron | no one does anything special |
| 20:20.40 | Kaaosa | I'm digging through the lua trying to fix my DogTags but I can't seem to find anything that does what SureHP did :x |
| 20:20.41 | Fisker- | timer for when akama is released!1 |
| 20:20.58 | keiss | it might have a timer for the adds maybe .... but not rly usefull ... |
| 20:21.00 | Josh_Borke | keiss: wau is not maintained |
| 20:21.01 | kenlyric | oh no! |
| 20:21.05 | kenlyric | i've hit the math_floor |
| 20:21.07 | Grum | kebinusan: t4/t5 gear and some t6, you have the first half of MH/BT on farm? |
| 20:21.10 | keiss | Josh_Borke: wau2 is ? |
| 20:21.18 | NivFreak | kebinusan: I actually hope that guy is pulling your leg |
| 20:21.21 | kenlyric | ~wau2 |
| 20:21.21 | purl | i heard wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 20:21.22 | NeoTron | Fisker-: there is no "timer" for that |
| 20:21.26 | NeoTron | depends entirely on your dps |
| 20:21.28 | NivFreak | because it's gonna get the nerf bat with that level of regen |
| 20:21.49 | Josh_Borke | keiss: i believe neither is |
| 20:22.10 | keiss | kenlyric: i know where it is , but the submit bug button is broken ;) |
| 20:22.33 | Grum | kebinusan: he has ~100-120 more spirit than average on that level |
| 20:22.43 | kebinusan | yeah its slightly better than the armory, he's at 841 spirit 578 int atm |
| 20:22.46 | Grum | but still that shouldnt account for such a fuckload of mp5 |
| 20:23.01 | NivFreak | hrmm, what was the bigwigs Lurker "bugfix" |
| 20:23.07 | Grum | kebinusan: selfbuffed right? |
| 20:23.21 | Grum | no enchant on his weapon? |
| 20:23.24 | durcyn | oh, hey, pitbull zip finally created. |
| 20:23.29 | durcyn | enjoy it, you peasants! |
| 20:23.30 | keiss | tbh ... getting so much spi is useless ... just gimping other stats ... u dont go oom with a lot less spi (while maintaining better +healing) .. *imo* |
| 20:23.30 | kebinusan | yeah self buffed, we have a pally in this party so he has kings too |
| 20:23.34 | kenlyric | what complete tool told me that the new combat log looked just like SCL? |
| 20:23.36 | kenlyric | I must now stab you |
| 20:23.40 | kenlyric | SEA OF RED |
| 20:23.48 | Xinhuan | it can be configured to look like SCL |
| 20:23.51 | Xinhuan | you merely don't know how :) |
| 20:23.58 | kenlyric | configuring is for pansies |
| 20:24.01 | kenlyric | DEFAUL |
| 20:24.06 | kenlyric | T |
| 20:24.14 | durcyn | because instant gratification is instant, right kenlyric |
| 20:24.24 | Grum | keiss: spi is getting rather good |
| 20:24.24 | Primer | realm...still...down... |
| 20:24.29 | Grum | check all the new t6 pieces |
| 20:24.32 | Grum | no mp5, full spi |
| 20:24.35 | NeoTron | still...at...work... |
| 20:24.41 | keiss | you didnt get my point Grum .. |
| 20:25.06 | *** part/#wowace Felix28 (n=Owner@bas4-toronto63-1096803344.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:25.38 | Grum | checking him, he needs a bit more hp (~50-60 sta) ~200 healing orso |
| 20:25.54 | keiss | *eactly* because spi -> more regen ... no need to get even more since you dont go oom as it is (ok ... going from my pow ofc) ... so why get more spi when i can get more +healing/sta/...w/e |
| 20:26.16 | NivFreak | I'm basically stacking all +healing from now on for my priest |
| 20:26.21 | NivFreak | I don't need more than 250mp5... |
| 20:26.29 | Grum | keiss: you dont go oom? |
| 20:26.33 | Grum | lol |
| 20:26.35 | NivFreak | or at least, I can't figure out why I would |
| 20:26.45 | NivFreak | I mean, I guess I could go nuts and spam flash heal like a paladin |
| 20:26.46 | Grum | i go oom with shadowpriest and ~330 mp5 while casting in 2.3 O.o |
| 20:26.54 | keiss | Grum: no , if i went oom , i would be a failure .... |
| 20:26.56 | kenlyric | you spam circle of healing like a preist |
| 20:27.11 | Grum | i heal like a paladin |
| 20:27.17 | Grum | but with the power of a priest ;D |
| 20:27.17 | NivFreak | with flash heal? :P |
| 20:27.21 | keiss | reroll paladin then :D |
| 20:27.32 | NivFreak | I'm a gheal cancel caster |
| 20:27.39 | exor674 | hrm |
| 20:27.42 | NivFreak | with renew/PoM mixed in |
| 20:27.43 | Grum | NivFreak: spec? 23/38 ? |
| 20:27.49 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:27.52 | NivFreak | not CoH |
| 20:27.53 | Grum | figures |
| 20:27.57 | NivFreak | although now |
| 20:27.59 | exor674 | Omen isn't embedding/whatever LibSink |
| 20:27.59 | NivFreak | I may as well |
| 20:28.15 | NivFreak | I'm going to regem for spirit |
| 20:28.22 | Grum | really? |
| 20:28.23 | keiss | i'am a 'use w/e is best' caster :D ... and heavy renew-user (10+ renews on bloodboil do some nice hps) |
| 20:28.27 | Grum | what are you taking ? 10spi gems? |
| 20:28.41 | Grum | i also renew on BB's yeah |
| 20:28.42 | NivFreak | I was thinking shadow pearls |
| 20:28.49 | NivFreak | I was just starting to run the numbers |
| 20:29.05 | NeoTron | NivFreak: CoH => zomg on RoS, Bloodboil, Illidan etc |
| 20:29.19 | NivFreak | NeoTron: yea, but my priest is my alt and never gets into anything post t5 content |
| 20:29.35 | keiss | NeoTron: renew pwns CoH on most of those if done right (especially with 4 set t5 bonus :)) |
| 20:29.47 | Grum | no way |
| 20:30.01 | NeoTron | keiss: lol |
| 20:30.11 | Grum | sorry keiss, thats just not true |
| 20:30.20 | NeoTron | renew is nowhere even close to the amount of healing you get from CoH |
| 20:30.22 | Grum | also 4xt5 is impossible to hold |
| 20:30.28 | keiss | it is ... id prove it to you if i could ;) |
| 20:30.30 | Fisker- | how do i got to teron gorefiend? |
| 20:30.32 | NeoTron | it is not |
| 20:30.37 | *** join/#wowace ven_ (n=ven@i59F567DE.versanet.de) |
| 20:30.42 | NeoTron | renew ticks for less ever 3 sec than CoH does every 1.5s |
| 20:30.55 | Grum | keiss: renew ticks for ~822 for 15 seconds every 3 seconds |
| 20:31.08 | keiss | NeoTron: well CoH = one every 1.5seconds ... i can keep 10+ renews for whole bloodboil fight ... |
| 20:31.19 | Grum | erm yes |
| 20:31.23 | NeoTron | thing is you can't keep someone alive with a renew alone |
| 20:31.39 | Apoco | does channels trigger SPELL_CAST_START? |
| 20:31.39 | Grum | CoH does 800-1400 |
| 20:31.44 | keiss | thats why iam not the only healer in the raid ? :D |
| 20:32.06 | Grum | keiss: CoH pushes the most healing/second for priests |
| 20:32.20 | Jaxon | Fisker-: remember how you go down the stairs and turn right for Akama? Turn left for Gorefiend. Lots of trash, quite time consuming. |
| 20:32.25 | keiss | Grum: for a single cast and if all are down ... yes |
| 20:32.37 | Grum | which is the case for BB/RoS/Illidan |
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| 20:33.19 | durcyn | Grum: all of which is easily replaced by one bananabeam spamming shaman >_> |
| 20:33.25 | Grum | nope |
| 20:33.29 | Fisker- | oh u Jaxon :( |
| 20:33.37 | Grum | shamans should go fingers of BB/RoS/Illi groups |
| 20:33.40 | Grum | they fuck up CoH |
| 20:33.40 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Did you fix the Omen embeds? |
| 20:33.43 | Antiarc | Or do I need to do that? |
| 20:33.58 | nevcairiel | i added AceHook, yeha |
| 20:33.58 | Fisker- | Antiarc! |
| 20:33.59 | NeoTron | he added AceHook-3,0 |
| 20:34.04 | Antiarc | Thanks |
| 20:34.09 | NivFreak | man, pitbull has some bugs |
| 20:34.11 | Fisker- | are you going to put up Omen2 or will it replace Omen? |
| 20:34.13 | NivFreak | heh |
| 20:34.16 | NivFreak | I see there's another update though |
| 20:34.18 | Antiarc | It's already up |
| 20:34.22 | durcyn | Fisker-: new Omen is already in trunk/Omen |
| 20:34.33 | kebinusan | thats putitng it midly |
| 20:34.33 | Kaaosa | Anyone know the proper way to add a color to a font string now? [Guild:Color(00cc00)] is giving me a syntax error now :| |
| 20:34.34 | durcyn | congratulations on paying attention, you win the paying attention olympics, Fisker- ! |
| 20:34.42 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5733e215.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 20:34.45 | NeoTron | Antiarc: a friend is trying to test the AoE mode and said it didn't show any bars - any tricks to it? |
| 20:34.52 | Yssaril | kaaosa same as before |
| 20:34.52 | Fisker- | just wanted to know if i had to tell my guildies to download a "different" addon |
| 20:34.54 | Fisker- | also |
| 20:35.04 | Fisker- | i don't use teh svn right now since i'm eu |
| 20:35.05 | Grum | Kaaosa: /dogtag |
| 20:35.05 | Xinhuan | [2008/03/26 04:33:59-6165-x2]: LittleWigs_MagistersTerrace\Vexallus.lua:97: attempt to call global 'fmt' (a nil value) |
| 20:35.06 | Kaaosa | Then shouldn't that string work? |
| 20:35.15 | Sekkyo | kenlyric: Did that fix for Recount get checked in? |
| 20:35.32 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Be in a group? |
| 20:35.32 | Yssaril | Kaaosa, you talking abotu dogtags or actual font strings? |
| 20:35.33 | *** join/#wowace mathuin (n=mathuin@c-71-202-238-151.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:35.41 | Funkeh` | Apoco, spell_cast_channel_start iirc |
| 20:35.43 | Bruners | !rating 1500 |
| 20:35.43 | Xinhuan | 1500 rating gives 344(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 20:35.43 | Kaaosa | DogTags |
| 20:35.54 | Yssaril | no idea then ask ckknight |
| 20:36.07 | mathuin | I'm sure this is a FAQ but I can't find it anywhere -- where is AceLocale-3.0 ? |
| 20:36.34 | Snago | mathuin: In trunk/Ace3/ |
| 20:36.46 | keiss | Grum: wtb ur armory linkz |
| 20:37.04 | Grum | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Xaros |
| 20:37.07 | mathuin | Snago: I install no-library versions of stuff -- will the no-library version of Ace3 have it? |
| 20:37.21 | Kaaosa | Oh, gotta do [Guild:Color("00cc00")] I guess, instead of [Guild:Color(00cc00)] |
| 20:37.28 | Snago | yes, then you want to install Ace3 |
| 20:37.32 | Apoco | Funkeh`> subevent of COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED? |
| 20:37.38 | Grum | dont disembed ace3 :( |
| 20:37.39 | Funkeh` | oooh |
| 20:37.41 | Funkeh` | no |
| 20:37.43 | Elsia | hmm can someone explain to my why x-embeds also needs to be optdeps? |
| 20:37.52 | Funkeh` | Apoco, I thought you mean't the actual event from spellcasting |
| 20:37.56 | mathuin | I disembed *everything* so I only have one copy of everything. |
| 20:38.05 | ckknight | Kaaosa: right |
| 20:38.09 | durcyn | Elsia: because X-Embeds isn't parsed by the game. optdeps is there to determine load order |
| 20:38.11 | Josh_Borke | mathuin: do you know what that means? |
| 20:38.21 | Snago | yes, disembedd Ace3 it shouldn't get special treatment :P |
| 20:38.22 | Elsia | alright |
| 20:38.35 | ckknight | Kaaosa: or [Guild:Color(0, 0.9, 0)] |
| 20:38.38 | mathuin | When I say "disembed" I mean "install the no-library version". |
| 20:38.41 | kenlyric | Elsia: x-embeds is entirely for update programs to know which libs to pull. |
| 20:38.46 | NivFreak | ckknight: no SmartClass tag now? |
| 20:38.47 | Kaaosa | ckknight why you gotta go crazy on me and make me add quotes to all my dogtags ;[ |
| 20:38.48 | Josh_Borke | that means when this happens you need to take care of things like this yourself |
| 20:38.52 | NeoTron | Elsia: essentially without it the addons are either not loaded or not loaded before your addon |
| 20:38.57 | ckknight | Kaaosa: syntax changed |
| 20:39.03 | Funkeh` | Apoco, I guess channels are also spell cast start |
| 20:39.15 | mathuin | Josh_Borke: which I did until I couldn't actually find the explicit library requested by the software, which is why I came here. |
| 20:39.32 | kenlyric | else we go go back to !!!standalonelibs, and nobody wants that horror |
| 20:39.34 | Kaaosa | Do :Prepend and :Append no longer exist? :x |
| 20:39.37 | kebinusan | so to unfuck my dogtags I need to go through and add quotes to them? |
| 20:39.47 | Kaaosa | kebinusan, among other things :V |
| 20:39.56 | ckknight | NivFreak: guess not, could be added, but I think it should be renamed or something. in any event, (if (IsPlayer or (IsEnemy and not IsPet)) then Class) |
| 20:40.01 | Elsia | alright, fixed the toc of recount then. |
| 20:40.16 | Grum | keiss: hurrkek i has low spirit :D |
| 20:40.22 | NivFreak | ckknight: it must be something left over from an old pitbull default. I certainly never added it |
| 20:40.23 | Snago | mathuin: Don't listen to them. Go ahead and disembedd, I'll gladly help in any way I can if you get any more problems :P |
| 20:40.38 | ckknight | NivFreak: no, I got rid of those... |
| 20:40.39 | keiss | Grum: and ur a human ... :) |
| 20:40.54 | ckknight | Kaaosa: I should add those, I suppose, to be nice |
| 20:40.56 | mathuin | I have 181 Ace addons, I don't need 87 copies of LibPopular-2.0 littering my disk. :-) |
| 20:41.01 | Grum | tbh in 2.3 its crap to have spirit |
| 20:41.02 | ckknight | Kaaosa: actually, juxtaposition means concatenation |
| 20:41.04 | mathuin | I'll test this out -- thanks! |
| 20:41.13 | ckknight | [Alpha Bravo] => [Alpha:Append(Bravo)] |
| 20:41.14 | NivFreak | ckknight: where it used to show my class, it now shows an error about SmartClass not being a valid tag |
| 20:41.24 | Grum | unless you have shittunsloads of it |
| 20:41.26 | ckknight | NivFreak: check the tag |
| 20:41.26 | NivFreak | I never added the tag |
| 20:41.31 | ckknight | check the tag in the options |
| 20:41.32 | NivFreak | or any tag |
| 20:41.32 | keiss | agrees |
| 20:41.38 | Elsia | hmm is the svn notification bot down? |
| 20:41.38 | Grum | especially as CoH priest, wtf is outside fsr? |
| 20:41.51 | Grum | 80-85% inside fsr ... O.o |
| 20:41.53 | kenlyric | bad priest is bad |
| 20:42.10 | rubik | Elsia: seems to work in #wowace-cia |
| 20:42.12 | kenlyric | and 20% is still 20% |
| 20:42.17 | Cleanse | is SCT owning everyone's fps as well? |
| 20:42.18 | keiss | Grum: well ... i just carry 80 mana pots in my bags ;) |
| 20:42.22 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65844 10BigWigs/ZulAman/ (7 files): BigWigs: Zul'Aman: Remove 2.3 compat |
| 20:42.22 | Elsia | k thanks |
| 20:42.33 | Grum | 5-6 manainjectors with me at all times :D |
| 20:42.34 | kenlyric | that new combat log is super |
| 20:42.35 | NivFreak | Cleanse: I switched to MSBT because of that before ;P |
| 20:42.35 | Kirkburn | Apparently it's not down :P |
| 20:42.42 | kenlyric | I like how it scroooools every time you change to it |
| 20:42.56 | Funkeh` | just bt, hyjal an dkz to go... |
| 20:42.57 | keiss | <3 fel mana pot + alchemist stone |
| 20:43.00 | Cleanse | like I just got hit with 10~ spells from mobs and my fps dropped to 1 |
| 20:43.01 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
| 20:43.14 | ZealotOnAStick | What would be giving these errors: "[2008/03/25 16:41:33-990-x1]: <string>:"RBOptions_CBX_DisplayToggle:OnLoad":1: attempt to index a nil value" |
| 20:43.15 | Grum | keiss: i will check what spi-gems will do for me |
| 20:43.20 | Grum | but atm i can just stack +healing |
| 20:43.49 | sag_ich_nicht | i haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate hyjal |
| 20:43.53 | keiss | Grum: thats what i do ... i 'maintain' a mp5/regen that makes me not go oom in fights (while heavily using pots/SoH/...) and rest goes to healing .. |
| 20:44.13 | Yssaril | ckknight, is there a 2.4 parrot yet? |
| 20:44.14 | NivFreak | keiss: how much mp5 do you like? |
| 20:44.15 | *** join/#wowace Beherit (i=Beherit@d189132.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 20:44.16 | Grum | our guildleader makes fun of me every raid when we have <3 paladins |
| 20:44.32 | Grum | saying we have one more but i 'forgot to spec blessings' |
| 20:44.38 | keiss | NivFreak: ~190 unbuffed (2.3) |
| 20:44.42 | ckknight | Yssaril: no |
| 20:44.48 | Yssaril | ckknight, kk |
| 20:44.51 | NivFreak | keiss: hrmm, that's less than I like |
| 20:44.54 | NivFreak | what content level |
| 20:45.04 | keiss | NivFreak: BT 8/9 |
| 20:45.06 | kenlyric | Grum: just flash heal for him |
| 20:45.11 | kenlyric | until he shuts the fuck up |
| 20:45.16 | Grum | keiss: i am 330 buffed in 2.3 |
| 20:45.21 | NivFreak | keiss: how much +healing? |
| 20:45.28 | keiss | NivFreak: 2315 ub |
| 20:45.32 | Grum | keiss: armory? |
| 20:45.34 | NivFreak | and you're CoH? |
| 20:45.36 | CIA-9 | 03danielbarron * r65845 10RaidBuffStatus/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:45.36 | CIA-9 | RaidBuffStatus: |
| 20:45.37 | CIA-9 | - Added /rbs toggle option for toggling open and close the dashboard. |
| 20:45.37 | CIA-9 | - Fixed bug: frame and icons not on same level. Now comes to front when clicked. |
| 20:45.37 | CIA-9 | - Fixed bug: offline check would not disable. |
| 20:45.37 | CIA-9 | - Fixed bug: tooltip was much too wide when many people need a buff. |
| 20:45.40 | keiss | NivFreak: spi |
| 20:45.41 | CIA-9 | - Added ability to shift click and report only on a single missing buff. |
| 20:46.13 | kenlyric | 330? |
| 20:46.16 | kenlyric | are you naked? |
| 20:46.23 | NivFreak | I think he means IFSR? |
| 20:46.26 | keiss | Grum: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Jaedenar&n=Andraste |
| 20:46.29 | kenlyric | oh |
| 20:46.33 | kenlyric | still |
| 20:46.40 | kenlyric | i'm in crap half kara gear and have around 300 |
| 20:47.02 | Fisker- | dances with kenlyric :o |
| 20:47.03 | NivFreak | I'm 1951 +healing and 230mp5 unbuffed |
| 20:47.14 | NivFreak | but I haven't regemmed yet |
| 20:47.17 | kenlyric | should be like 500 or some shit you peoples |
| 20:47.31 | NivFreak | 1997 +healing and 249mp5 with imp ds |
| 20:47.41 | NivFreak | I'm 476 OFSR |
| 20:47.42 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:47.44 | keiss | NivFreak: i'd say 200 ub is a reasonable long term 'goal' for me ... rest is healing/sta/.. |
| 20:47.50 | kenlyric | huggles human racial |
| 20:47.50 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r65846 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:47.50 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-3.0 - add Icon tag |
| 20:47.50 | CIA-9 | - add Prepend and Append tags |
| 20:47.59 | NivFreak | keiss: interesting, do you aggressivly pot? |
| 20:48.05 | keiss | NivFreak: yes |
| 20:48.08 | NivFreak | ahh |
| 20:48.09 | NivFreak | ok |
| 20:48.17 | ckknight | Kaaosa: there you go |
| 20:48.33 | Proph | sup with pitbull still not updated? |
| 20:48.35 | ckknight | Kaaosa: if you run into any requests for DogTag, go to http://jira.wowace.com/browse/DOGTAG |
| 20:48.38 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r65847 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): |
| 20:48.38 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 20:48.38 | CIA-9 | - Fixed bug when resizing the main window. |
| 20:48.44 | kebinusan | ckknight: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Status.lua:588: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got nil) |
| 20:48.45 | *** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 20:48.49 | Grum | ~2180 healing and ~220 mp5 unbuffed |
| 20:49.16 | sb_ | mhh |
| 20:49.35 | Grum | will be 2300 healing and ~215 orso when i get that stupid alch stone |
| 20:49.42 | kenlyric | 269/579 |
| 20:49.43 | sb_ | !char eu khaz'goroth smb |
| 20:49.55 | NivFreak | oh yea |
| 20:50.00 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 20:50.01 | NivFreak | I have to grind exalted on my priest =/ |
| 20:50.02 | sag_ich_nicht | who ever wrote |
| 20:50.04 | keiss | Grum: yeah ... cant wait for that one ... it so OP |
| 20:50.11 | kenlyric | but only 1664 healing |
| 20:50.15 | sb_ | 580 spirit tomorrow :o |
| 20:50.22 | sb_ | unbuffed |
| 20:50.23 | Grum | keiss: finally tbh |
| 20:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | WHO EVER WROTE THE FUCKING HYJAL BIGWIGS MODULE |
| 20:50.32 | Grum | wasted not having +healing on that slow long enough |
| 20:50.32 | sag_ich_nicht | NEEDS TO HANG |
| 20:50.44 | durcyn | WHOA CALM DOWN |
| 20:50.44 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: anger much? |
| 20:50.45 | keiss | Grum: but i even use the current one on some fights , like council |
| 20:51.00 | Grum | i always use it |
| 20:51.04 | Grum | and i mean always :P |
| 20:51.06 | Cyrez | kicks CIA-9 |
| 20:51.07 | CIA-9 | ow |
| 20:51.15 | Grum | licks CIA-9 |
| 20:51.31 | *** join/#wowace MoonWitch (n=MoonWitc@83.101.31.88) |
| 20:51.31 | Cyrez | CIA only missed 73 commits. Could've been worse, lol. |
| 20:51.40 | sb_ | http://tinyurl.com/2xqwsh - wtb moer spirit :/ |
| 20:52.05 | kenlyric | fuckin shit |
| 20:52.09 | NivFreak | shadow pearls are going for 75G today |
| 20:52.09 | NivFreak | lol |
| 20:52.09 | MoonWitch | anyone else having loot under cursor not working no matter which interface setting you pick unless you create a brand new character |
| 20:52.11 | kenlyric | why would you hide an armory link behind tinyurl? |
| 20:52.15 | NivFreak | I should sell mine and regem later |
| 20:52.17 | Gandharva | sag_ich_nicht: if you dislike hyjal, your raid just sucks :P otherwise it would be clear in under 2h ;) |
| 20:52.17 | kenlyric | it's like getting fucking rickrolled |
| 20:52.34 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r65849 10LibDogTag-3.0/LibDogTag-3.0.lua: LibDogTag-3.0 - add colors I forgot about |
| 20:52.34 | CIA-9 | 03starinnia * r65848 10SimpleMD/SimpleMD.toc: SimpleMD: Fix the toc |
| 20:52.46 | Grum | geiv that fucking MH sb_ :( |
| 20:52.52 | keiss | almost pressed F10 in wau |
| 20:52.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` |
| 20:53.02 | sag_ich_nicht | you SoaB |
| 20:53.25 | Funkeh` | do me a favour and shut the fuck up |
| 20:53.28 | Funkeh` | now explain yourself |
| 20:53.36 | Osstia | why are shadow pearls selling? |
| 20:53.45 | NivFreak | spirit changes |
| 20:54.12 | kenlyric | they're now better than royal nightseye for a properly talented priest. |
| 20:54.19 | NivFreak | omfg, update armory! |
| 20:54.27 | kebinusan | ckknight: dogtag help doesnt work anymore? |
| 20:54.27 | Primer | define "properly talented" |
| 20:54.36 | kenlyric | they have the proper talents |
| 20:54.36 | ckknight | kebinusan: it will in a few days, hopefully |
| 20:54.44 | ckknight | kebinusan: but no, not now |
| 20:54.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: detect which wave in hyjal you're on by checking which bossmod is loaded NOW, not which boss DIED |
| 20:54.52 | Primer | Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at eu.wowarmory.com. |
| 20:54.57 | Grum | kenlyric: the biggest downside i see for the spirit change is that you dont have a t6 equivalent |
| 20:55.08 | Killmore | w00t pitbull is working now, thx ckknight :P |
| 20:55.08 | kebinusan | ckknight: , is there any place I reand what I need to know to fix my dogtags so they work? |
| 20:55.09 | kenlyric | Grum: true |
| 20:55.11 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, and if someone manually loads one? |
| 20:55.16 | kenlyric | but by then.... |
| 20:55.45 | Grum | lets see, it should be 11 healing and 5 spi, |
| 20:55.57 | kenlyric | you don't have a combo gem, but you do have two solid color gems |
| 20:56.13 | Grum | so you can take a red + blue .. |
| 20:56.16 | kenlyric | isn't there a bad one that's like 11h, 2mp5? |
| 20:56.26 | Grum | yeah 11/2 is normal now |
| 20:56.29 | keiss | there is |
| 20:56.33 | Grum | but that was 11/6-7 spi worth |
| 20:56.40 | Grum | that will drop now |
| 20:56.47 | Grum | to ~3.5spi worth orso |
| 20:57.04 | keiss | idd, but ... what color is the 11/5 ? |
| 20:57.05 | Grum | but 10 spi vs 4 mp5 |
| 20:57.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: that's the point. |
| 20:57.08 | Grum | purple |
| 20:57.11 | Kaaosa | ckknight, is it still possible to do things like NameRealm#mouseovertarget with DogTag? |
| 20:57.14 | Grum | but there is non keiss |
| 20:57.16 | Grum | that is the problem |
| 20:57.22 | kenlyric | the nice thing is you aren't bound to the combo color, need more healing then go for more healing. |
| 20:57.27 | Grum | there is a 9/5 which is a Laj-heroic drop |
| 20:57.27 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, how is that the point, they load azgalor when rage is next? |
| 20:57.40 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 20:57.49 | Funkeh` | well, it's perfectly possible |
| 20:57.56 | Primer | I seem to recall reading about T4 tokens being tradable for PVP gear. Did that make it into 2.4? |
| 20:57.58 | Funkeh` | which would break everything |
| 20:57.59 | sag_ich_nicht | nobody would do it tho |
| 20:57.59 | nevcairiel | boss mods only load on boss engage |
| 20:58.00 | sag_ich_nicht | the thing is |
| 20:58.02 | keiss | Grum: hm ... well most of my gems are pure +healing anyway .. so no epenses for me rly :) |
| 20:58.02 | nevcairiel | not on wave start |
| 20:58.06 | Funkeh` | yes, they would |
| 20:58.08 | sag_ich_nicht | getting which damn wave you're on |
| 20:58.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so the descriptions work |
| 20:58.17 | sag_ich_nicht | which currently doesn't really work |
| 20:58.19 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, then start the eent |
| 20:58.23 | sag_ich_nicht | or lemme manually set which wave they are on |
| 20:58.25 | Funkeh` | event |
| 20:58.35 | nevcairiel | i really havent had any issues with the wave announce |
| 20:58.39 | Grum | i want to see new graphs for how much spi is how much mp5 at which int |
| 20:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | that doesn't always work |
| 20:58.44 | kenlyric | but spirit turns *into* healing :) |
| 20:58.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i have one tho. |
| 20:58.48 | nevcairiel | just get someone with bigwigs to start the waves |
| 20:58.51 | sag_ich_nicht | so: it's broken |
| 20:59.01 | Civrock | Elsia: I posted a bunch of error in the forum. |
| 20:59.06 | keiss | Grum: the change sux for comparing 2 items outside of the context of the players stats .. |
| 20:59.14 | nevcairiel | if someone without bigwigs talks to thrall or jaina it might break |
| 20:59.15 | Grum | yeah |
| 20:59.20 | nevcairiel | but thats your own bad luck then =P |
| 20:59.21 | Elsia | Civrock: thanks I'll look, I commited a fix for two errors already, but maybe there are more |
| 20:59.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:59] <nevcairiel> but thats your own bad luck then =P <--yeah. see, that's the problem. |
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| 20:59.49 | nevcairiel | how would you detect that then? |
| 20:59.52 | nevcairiel | there is no damn way |
| 20:59.55 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, that's just as equal a problem as someone enabling the wrong module |
| 20:59.59 | keiss | Elsia: forgot to thank you for the 'auto fight switch' change btw ;) |
| 21:00.07 | Elsia | keiss: welcome |
| 21:00.20 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, plus, it still doesn't get you the first boss wave timers |
| 21:00.28 | Funkeh` | so changing it would change nothing |
| 21:00.31 | Grum | nevcairiel: doesnt she say something orso? |
| 21:00.33 | CIA-9 | 03treibh * r65850 10BigBrother/BigBrother.toc: |
| 21:00.33 | CIA-9 | BigBrother: |
| 21:00.33 | CIA-9 | - update to 20400: seems to be working ok |
| 21:00.38 | nevcairiel | Grum: dont think so |
| 21:00.43 | Elsia | Civrock: the new commit should show up on wau pretty soon, can you let me know if that fixes your problems? |
| 21:00.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: not about timers, it's about wave content announce |
| 21:00.52 | Civrock | Elsia: Sure. |
| 21:00.53 | sag_ich_nicht | which only works if BigWigs knows WHAT wave you're on |
| 21:00.56 | *** part/#wowace MoonWitch (n=MoonWitc@83.101.31.88) |
| 21:00.58 | Elsia | great |
| 21:01.12 | nevcairiel | BigWigs will always know if just one person with bigwigs installs starts the waves |
| 21:01.17 | nevcairiel | and not some dumbass without |
| 21:01.19 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07Ace3 * r65851 10BetterQuest/modules/ (35 files in 9 dirs): BetterQuest: Rearrange modules. |
| 21:01.20 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, you're assuming someone would go in an enable the module before the start of the waves for that specific boss |
| 21:01.21 | nevcairiel | so get them to install bigwigs |
| 21:01.23 | NivFreak | lol |
| 21:01.24 | nevcairiel | --> solved |
| 21:01.29 | kebinusan | so how would I go about fixing a dogtag like this: [NameRealm:HostileColor] [LeaderShort:Paren] |
| 21:01.29 | NivFreak | bloodlust horde is talking about an AV boycott |
| 21:01.31 | NivFreak | on my server |
| 21:01.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: or, you could just let me set which wave we're on manually with some button |
| 21:01.44 | Grum | nevcairiel: it will sync after the first ice-bolt and then after the first whatsitcalled .. boilthingie |
| 21:01.54 | Grum | +right? |
| 21:02.00 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 21:02.03 | nevcairiel | we're talking waves |
| 21:02.04 | nevcairiel | not boss |
| 21:02.08 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 21:02.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. |
| 21:02.33 | nevcairiel | If you guild relys on those messages, just elt someone WITH BigWigs start the event |
| 21:02.36 | nevcairiel | its as simpel as that |
| 21:02.46 | nevcairiel | man so many typos today |
| 21:03.09 | Grum | oh well |
| 21:03.20 | Grum | will it sync? |
| 21:03.25 | Grum | during the fight? |
| 21:03.27 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:03.32 | Grum | then who fucking cares lol |
| 21:03.34 | nevcairiel | it even syncs if you log in mid fight |
| 21:03.47 | Grum | no, i mean if you start it without bigwigs |
| 21:03.51 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 21:03.52 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:03.52 | Grum | will it sync later on? |
| 21:03.57 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 21:04.00 | Funkeh` | on boss death |
| 21:04.04 | Grum | LOL |
| 21:04.06 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 21:04.07 | nevcairiel | that |
| 21:04.13 | sag_ich_nicht | thus: let me set that boss death sync manually as well |
| 21:04.14 | sag_ich_nicht | with a button |
| 21:04.21 | sag_ich_nicht | just in case someone is a moron. |
| 21:04.25 | nevcairiel | buttons are bad |
| 21:04.28 | sag_ich_nicht | so we can kick him later. |
| 21:04.29 | Funkeh` | just /script |
| 21:04.35 | Grum | nevcairiel: that sucks ;( |
| 21:04.38 | nevcairiel | AND, the waves up to winterchill are so damn easy |
| 21:04.48 | sag_ich_nicht | nobody is talking about winterchill |
| 21:04.57 | nevcairiel | it will work after winterchill..? |
| 21:05.02 | nevcairiel | because it syncs on both death? |
| 21:05.05 | nevcairiel | remember? |
| 21:05.05 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:05.08 | nevcairiel | *boss |
| 21:05.09 | Grum | but then again - was it different in 2.3? |
| 21:05.11 | sag_ich_nicht | no-it-doesn't-because-i-crashed-and-it-doesn't-back-sync |
| 21:05.13 | CIA-9 | 03brimm * r65852 10MyThreat/ (MyThreat.lua MyThreat.xml): |
| 21:05.13 | CIA-9 | MyThreat: |
| 21:05.13 | CIA-9 | -Fixed bugs in the drycoded version. |
| 21:05.25 | nevcairiel | Grum: you dont understand at all :P |
| 21:05.26 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Shadowed |
| 21:05.26 | purl | burns Shadowed to a crisp with a laser |
| 21:05.28 | keiss | hm ... cant change font in agUF ? |
| 21:05.41 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, here's what you do |
| 21:05.48 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht, walk up to jaina or thrall |
| 21:05.54 | Funkeh` | open the speechbox |
| 21:05.56 | Funkeh` | don't click it |
| 21:05.58 | Funkeh` | done |
| 21:06.20 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm. |
| 21:06.20 | sag_ich_nicht | k |
| 21:06.25 | Dotted | is away (kd3 - whee squid just went splat) |
| 21:06.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh`: i can accept that |
| 21:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks. |
| 21:07.15 | Funkeh` | Im assuming that still triggers as even when you don't start it but talk to them |
| 21:07.20 | Funkeh` | which iirc it does |
| 21:07.49 | Grum | ~fail Grum |
| 21:07.50 | purl | Grum: FAIL! |
| 21:08.06 | NivFreak | did they change the text color for guildies in 2.4? |
| 21:08.20 | Funkeh` | don't think so |
| 21:08.25 | Proph | weird shit..pitbull works all of a sudden |
| 21:08.28 | Proph | without any updates |
| 21:08.30 | Funkeh` | oh they did muck with some color coding |
| 21:08.52 | NivFreak | the text above my other toons head was teal to me |
| 21:09.03 | Funkeh` | oh yeah |
| 21:09.05 | Funkeh` | you're friends |
| 21:09.08 | Funkeh` | they appear different |
| 21:09.16 | Funkeh` | and maybe guildies also not sure |
| 21:09.20 | Yssaril | PARTY_LOOT_METHOD_CHANGED will also fire if the raid loot method changes right? |
| 21:09.27 | NivFreak | So, I assume there's still nothing better for a yellow socket than Dazzling Talasite (priest) |
| 21:09.33 | NivFreak | baring epics of course |
| 21:09.47 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: Latest prat is showing "[1. channelname] [name] has joined the channel" injstead of [1] [name] joined channel" stuff |
| 21:09.55 | Shadowed | well latest prat as of yetserday night branch |
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| 21:10.03 | kebinusan | how would I go about fixing a dogtag like this: [NameRealm:HostileColor] [LeaderShort:Paren]? |
| 21:10.10 | kebinusan | as in making it work in this patch |
| 21:10.49 | Nandini | mal'ganis just had its first crash since the patch, only took 2.5 hours :) |
| 21:11.00 | [SW]Dodge | recount2 isnt ready yet ? |
| 21:11.21 | deadlock | Is the only way to create new bars in bongos3, by alt-dragging? |
| 21:11.26 | keiss | theres recount1 for 2.4 thou |
| 21:11.28 | Fisker- | we cannot has akama kill :( |
| 21:11.37 | [SW]Dodge | keiss: yea i know :) |
| 21:11.41 | [SW]Dodge | i just asked ^^ |
| 21:11.55 | keiss | it isnt afaik |
| 21:11.56 | Elsia | well it does something but misses loads of features at this point |
| 21:12.06 | Civrock | Hmm, Quartz' swing timer seems to be broken again. |
| 21:12.10 | keiss | Fisker-: whats the problem ? |
| 21:12.41 | te`afkulaar | any firstkills yet?^^ |
| 21:12.57 | rubik | any fellow druids know if change to Nurturing Instinct talent affects LoTP heals? |
| 21:13.02 | Fisker- | we suck keiss :o |
| 21:13.05 | rubik | (while in bear form.. say.. tanking) |
| 21:13.21 | Fisker- | raidleader wants us to stand in consecration range of a pala tank = :D |
| 21:13.28 | keiss | Fisker-: awww ... cant help with that :) |
| 21:13.36 | Nandini | NI changes only affect heals you receive while in cat form, and heals you cast while in caster form |
| 21:14.09 | rubik | "Increases your healing spells by up to 100% of your Agility, and increases healing done to you by 20% while in Cat form." <-- first part == super ambiguous |
| 21:14.24 | Fisker- | seems to have liek no idea of how to deal with the adds |
| 21:14.25 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 21:14.26 | rubik | i'm 100% clear on 2nd part |
| 21:14.36 | keiss | slow tanks ? |
| 21:14.44 | Nandini | in caster form, it adds to your +healing |
| 21:15.02 | Nandini | actually in every form it does that, but +healing doesn't affect your improved LotP |
| 21:15.18 | rubik | yeah.. that must be the real answer |
| 21:15.45 | rubik | "+healing doesn't affect LoTP" bit is what clears it all |
| 21:16.03 | NivFreak | there's no int/spirit gem is there? |
| 21:16.09 | Nandini | someone said that in one build, it DID affect heals you got from imp LotP while in cat form, however, since it is a flat % increase and not based on +healing |
| 21:16.42 | kergoth | logged into wow for hte first time since 2.4.... 55 errors |
| 21:16.43 | kergoth | whee |
| 21:16.49 | Nandini | pay to respec and find out for us rubik :P |
| 21:16.53 | rubik | hehe |
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| 21:18.12 | irandamay | i had surprisingly few errors... only omen is broken atm for me |
| 21:18.25 | Antiarc | How's it broken? |
| 21:18.51 | Strings` | For me it's just not answering to /omen and isn't displaying. |
| 21:18.56 | Antiarc | Did you update it? |
| 21:18.58 | irandamay | Omen\Modules\Healer\Healer.lua:9: Usage: EmbedLibrary(addon, libname, silent, offset): 'libname' - Cannot find a library instance of "AceHook-3.0". |
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| 21:19.06 | Antiarc | irandamay: Try updating, I think that was fixed |
| 21:19.07 | irandamay | yes |
| 21:19.08 | alcaras | oh dear, 2.4 |
| 21:19.13 | alcaras | is DogTag broken? :-/ |
| 21:19.23 | Kaaosa | Not exactly. |
| 21:19.28 | Strings` | It's up to date with the wowace updater and I've even tried removing anything that looks like "library" and let the updater refill those dependencies. |
| 21:19.28 | alcaras | getting Unknown tags on pitbull |
| 21:19.29 | Civrock | Syntax errors. |
| 21:19.31 | alcaras | and cowtip |
| 21:19.31 | irandamay | oooh looks like the zip is finally there :) |
| 21:19.37 | Primer | so where does on turn in T4 tokens for S1 PVP gear? |
| 21:20.07 | keiss | Primer: tell me when u found out btw ;) |
| 21:20.08 | Strings` | I start WoW, everything's enabled in the addons window, then log into a toon. No minimap button, and /omen gets a result about /help. |
| 21:20.12 | alcaras | let's see if this latest dogtag update works |
| 21:20.29 | Primer | keiss: I've looked everywhere. Arena vendor, Champion's Hall...nothing |
| 21:20.41 | rubik | they apparently changed the scoreboards in BGs so that you don't see servers anymore (so that you can't escape premades, etc.)? |
| 21:20.43 | keiss | Primer: iam still 2.3 , so ... cant help :) |
| 21:20.50 | nevcairiel | Primer: you do that on the sunwell island, but only in like step 3 of the reclaiming |
| 21:20.52 | Kaaosa | alcaras, you're likely going to have to rewrite all your DogTags |
| 21:21.00 | alcaras | Kaaosa: o.O |
| 21:21.06 | alcaras | Even the default pitbull ones? |
| 21:21.26 | Primer | nevcairiel: heh, I didn't think even that would be there. Thanks |
| 21:21.48 | Strings` | Okay, with LUA errors on, Omen wants LibSink-2.0, but the wowace updater didn't flag that as a dependency. Heading to install that. |
| 21:21.48 | Kaaosa | Not sure about the defaults, but I had to rewrite every one of mine. |
| 21:21.53 | Primer | nevcairiel: is getting to that stage a matter of a few minutes/hours? Or days? |
| 21:22.00 | kergoth | omen still missing acehook? |
| 21:22.03 | alcaras | UnknownTag CurHP |
| 21:22.07 | nevcairiel | days/weeks |
| 21:22.10 | Kaaosa | It's just HP now |
| 21:22.11 | kergoth | and looks like ratingbuster is missing babble-spell-2.2, which statlogic-1.0 needs |
| 21:22.14 | alcaras | Unknown tag SmartClass :-( |
| 21:22.22 | Kaaosa | SmartClass no longer exists |
| 21:22.22 | CIA-9 | 03xbeeps * r65854 10LibHealComm-3.0/LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 21:22.22 | CIA-9 | LibHealComm-3.0: |
| 21:22.22 | CIA-9 | - Removed Power Infusion (patch 2.4 change). |
| 21:22.23 | CIA-9 | 03antiarc * r65853 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Add LibSink-2.0 to x-embeds |
| 21:23.00 | Civrock | Did anybody update Quartz for 2.4? |
| 21:23.23 | kergoth | theres a 2.4 branch, dunn oif it works or not, but.. |
| 21:23.24 | Stanzilla | there's a 2.4 branch for it, Civrock |
| 21:23.29 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 21:23.35 | nevcairiel | trunk works fine |
| 21:23.42 | Civrock | Swing timer is broken. >_< |
| 21:23.45 | Strings` | no minimap button with LibSink-2.0 installed, but /omen is responsive now. |
| 21:23.54 | Antiarc | It doesn't have an MM button yet |
| 21:23.57 | Antiarc | That's on the to-do |
| 21:24.27 | Cyrez | I love patch days, lol. My channel fills right up. <3 |
| 21:24.31 | Strings` | I don't need it. I don't like clutter there anyway. |
| 21:24.42 | durcyn | what's libsink got to do with minimap? |
| 21:25.13 | alcaras | what can i do to fix DogTag? |
| 21:25.26 | Yssaril | alcaras, edit them :P |
| 21:25.55 | alcaras | edit t hem to what |
| 21:26.01 | Kaaosa | TO the new syntax |
| 21:26.04 | alcaras | CurHP and CurMana all broke? |
| 21:26.12 | alcaras | ah, where is the new syntax spelled out :-( |
| 21:26.15 | Kaaosa | They're just HP and MP |
| 21:26.18 | Kaaosa | And nowhere, yet. |
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| 21:27.05 | alcaras | mm |
| 21:27.26 | alcaras | HasNoMP is now :-/ |
| 21:27.34 | Kaaosa | HasMP |
| 21:27.43 | Kaaosa | Or rather ~HasMP |
| 21:28.08 | *** join/#wowace hypetech (n=kvirc@66.83.192.140.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 21:28.13 | kergoth | wtb a decent cowtip w/ dogtag3 setup |
| 21:28.15 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:28.18 | hypetech | anybody figured out how to remove the combat log from a chat window in 2.4? |
| 21:28.19 | alcaras | ty |
| 21:28.45 | alcaras | Unknown tag Plus |
| 21:28.59 | CIA-9 | 03odlaw * r65855 10PassLoot/PassLoot.toc: PassLoot: Updated toc. |
| 21:29.14 | Kaaosa | I don't use Plus in any of my tags so I don't know about that one :| |
| 21:29.19 | kergoth | [Ammo]: thought about adding options to witchhunt for enemy vs friend or whatever? |
| 21:30.57 | sylvanaar | Shadowed hrm - it seems to work on on live |
| 21:31.12 | Shadowed | normal chat is shortened, but the join and leave messages don't seem to be |
| 21:31.21 | Fisker- | akama is actually kinda hard with almost no melee |
| 21:32.06 | mort | !points 600 |
| 21:32.06 | Xinhuan | 600 arena points require 1696(5s), 1750(3s) and 1819(2s) team rating. |
| 21:32.12 | durcyn | fucking hell, the stupid combat log garbage is still hardwired into ChatFrame2 for no reason |
| 21:32.27 | Fisker- | baww |
| 21:32.28 | sylvanaar | Shadowed ok, ill take a look, thanks. |
| 21:32.31 | hypetech | durcyn: ya that's what I was just fighting with |
| 21:32.33 | alcaras | Smartclass? |
| 21:32.34 | sylvanaar | btw the icons got fixed |
| 21:32.51 | ckknight | alcaras: (if IsPlayer or (IsEnemy and not IsPet) then Class) |
| 21:33.16 | ckknight | Plus becomes [if Classification then "+"] |
| 21:34.00 | Kaaosa | ckknight is there a replacement for SureHP other than just MaxHP ~= 100? |
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| 21:34.41 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r65856 10BigWigs/Hyjal/ (7 files): BigWigs: Hyjal: Remove 2.3 compat |
| 21:34.49 | kergoth | damnit |
| 21:34.51 | kergoth | i was about to install an addon |
| 21:34.54 | kergoth | but i have no diea what i twas |
| 21:35.01 | Funkeh` | kergoth, AlarLib |
| 21:35.06 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis (n=ellipsis@c-98-207-97-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:35.08 | kergoth | nooooo |
| 21:35.32 | kebinusan | s`a |
| 21:35.34 | Nandini | giggles |
| 21:35.37 | Kaaosa | I think maybe I'll just take a nap and hope every addon I used is running perfectly when I wake up. |
| 21:35.44 | Josh_Borke | good idea |
| 21:35.51 | alcaras | [(~HasMP ? MP)] [(~HasMP ? PercentMP)] -> ? |
| 21:35.58 | kergoth | most of mine are happy enough |
| 21:36.03 | kergoth | gonna have to rework my cwotip setup |
| 21:36.16 | Strings` | This ended up the time to ditch KTM and get Omen working. |
| 21:36.17 | ckknight | Kaaosa: all HP tags now take the known argument |
| 21:36.19 | *** join/#wowace ben_ (n=ben@dslb-088-064-191-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:36.22 | Kaaosa | Oh. |
| 21:36.26 | Kaaosa | I see. |
| 21:36.27 | ckknight | Kaaosa: [FractionalHP(known=true)] |
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| 21:36.35 | alcaras | ckknight: is there dogtag 3.0 documentation anywhere? |
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| 21:36.47 | ckknight | alcaras: not for a few days outside of the lua files themselves |
| 21:36.49 | Kaaosa | Once this is all documented I think I will like it, lol |
| 21:36.53 | alcaras | which lua file should i look in |
| 21:36.57 | ckknight | alcaras: Categories |
| 21:36.59 | kergoth | hehe, smileys addond oesnt work, at least not with prat |
| 21:37.00 | alcaras | ty |
| 21:37.03 | Kaaosa | I can't find where the arguments are. |
| 21:37.11 | Kaaosa | Which seems to be my problem in converting my tags |
| 21:37.13 | dylanm | The Lua is pretty easy to read. |
| 21:37.16 | ckknight | Kaaosa: yea, documentation's not done yet, 2.4 came too fast |
| 21:37.52 | kebinusan | ckk, can you point me the direction of how to fix this tag to work [NameRealm:HostileColor] [LeaderShort:Paren]? |
| 21:38.19 | ckknight | kebinusan: [NameRealm:HostileColor] [IsLeader ? "(L)"] |
| 21:38.31 | Fisker- | lol wtf |
| 21:38.32 | ckknight | probably |
| 21:38.37 | Fisker- | went from wtf hard then wtf easy |
| 21:38.49 | sylvanaar | what smileys? |
| 21:38.56 | exor674 | what I'm missing the most from Omen... pullout threat bar |
| 21:39.16 | Antiarc | That'll be coming back. |
| 21:39.19 | sylvanaar | oh yeah, i doubt it would work with prat |
| 21:39.22 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: not getting any bars in omen |
| 21:39.31 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r65857 10CoolDownButtons/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:39.31 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 21:39.31 | CIA-9 | - toc updated to 20400 |
| 21:39.31 | CIA-9 | - enabled some changes for 2.4 |
| 21:39.39 | Antiarc | any errors? |
| 21:39.44 | Antiarc | Solo or group? |
| 21:39.56 | alcaras | what should i convert [(~HasMP ? MP)] [(~HasMP ? PercentMP)] to |
| 21:40.09 | Kaaosa | Take the ~ out, I think |
| 21:40.23 | Kaaosa | The way you have it, it will only show their MP if they have no MP |
| 21:40.39 | alcaras | oh, because HasNo turned into Has |
| 21:40.40 | alcaras | mm |
| 21:40.45 | Kaaosa | Yeah |
| 21:40.51 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: no errors, group, but i get the 90% warning sso its omen and not threat |
| 21:40.55 | alcaras | removing ~ works, thanks |
| 21:40.56 | exor674 | Antiarc: our healer seems to not be having any local data on her Omen, but I'm seeing her threat |
| 21:41.05 | alcaras | What is [Plus] now? |
| 21:41.38 | Kaaosa | [Classification ? "+"], I guess? |
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| 21:41.46 | alcaras | ah |
| 21:42.08 | dylanm | Wouldn't that get rare also? |
| 21:42.08 | sylvanaar | if the smileys addon used the blizzard Chatframe filters api it would work with prat i think |
| 21:42.08 | dylanm | Maybe if that's what you want. |
| 21:42.24 | ckknight | alcaras: [Classification ? "+"] |
| 21:42.34 | Spiderella | How would I truncate a name w/ new DogTags? |
| 21:42.39 | alcaras | ty ckknight |
| 21:42.41 | alcaras | and Kaaosa |
| 21:42.49 | alcaras | [AFKDND] |
| 21:43.03 | Kaaosa | [(AFK or DND)] |
| 21:43.04 | ckknight | alcaras: [AFK or DND] |
| 21:43.23 | dylanm | Spiderella: [Name:Truncate(4)] |
| 21:43.23 | ckknight | Spiderella: [Name:Truncate(5)] |
| 21:43.29 | Elsia | hehe |
| 21:43.33 | ckknight | Spiderella: or [Name:Truncate(5, ellipses=false)] |
| 21:43.46 | dylanm | Is she now? |
| 21:43.47 | Spiderella | ty much |
| 21:43.54 | Elsia | ~comfort Ellipsis |
| 21:43.55 | purl | There, there, Ellipsis. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 21:44.19 | Yssaril | did that mean to not truncate if Name = ellipses? |
| 21:44.25 | Snago | or maybe [Name:Truncate(5, ellipsis_mom=true)] ? |
| 21:44.27 | dylanm | No. |
| 21:44.36 | Grum | it just means Ellipsis has no life! |
| 21:44.37 | ckknight | btw, if anyone has any requests for DogTag, please put em in http://jira.wowace.com/browse/DOGTAG |
| 21:44.42 | dylanm | Without that it will make like dyla... |
| 21:44.48 | dylanm | Rather than dyla |
| 21:44.48 | ckknight | Yssaril: it's whether to show ... or not |
| 21:44.55 | Yssaril | ah |
| 21:45.31 | kebinusan | is there a pitbull rev that works proper with the old dogtag lib I could back down to |
| 21:45.33 | dylanm | Oh do you have some in-game documentation browser for this now? |
| 21:45.38 | Primer | So what about these arena tier 0.5 set items you get from "various reputation vendors"? The same people that have head enchants? Like, the HH quartermaster? |
| 21:45.44 | ckknight | kebinusan: no, and the old DogTag doesn't work properly in 2.4 ;-) |
| 21:46.01 | dylanm | People could just read that. |
| 21:46.15 | ckknight | dylanm: I plan to in like 2-3 days |
| 21:46.44 | dylanm | Ah. |
| 21:47.28 | ulic | Primer: yep |
| 21:47.34 | Grum | http://grum.nl/WoWScrnShot_032508_224024.jpg ... stupid 23hr transmute timers!!!! |
| 21:47.52 | dylanm | So they have some excuse. I was just reading the source. |
| 21:48.01 | NivFreak | Grum: oh, it has a CD? =/ |
| 21:48.22 | sb_ | lol Grum |
| 21:48.26 | Kaaosa | [FractionalHP(known=true):Short PercentHP(known=false):Percent] Shouldn't this show one or the other? It's showing both :\ |
| 21:48.33 | dylanm | Your syntax is a lot nicer now. |
| 21:48.35 | Yssaril | Grum, isnt it worth more to make them into rings disenchant them and then sell the enchant mats? |
| 21:48.36 | Grum | yup |
| 21:48.37 | dylanm | For DogTag, I mean. |
| 21:48.48 | Primer | ulic: ok, thanks |
| 21:48.51 | dylanm | Conditionals looked like hell before. |
| 21:48.55 | Grum | Yssaril: initially the 18green->blue transmute had no cooldown |
| 21:48.57 | sb_ | whats that mod Grum? |
| 21:48.59 | Primer | seems curse.com is having one hell of a time staying up |
| 21:49.00 | kergoth | yeah the dogtag 3 synatx is much nicer |
| 21:49.05 | kergoth | ckknight: is there a wiki page on the new syntax? |
| 21:49.11 | Grum | sb_: bagmod? Combuctor |
| 21:49.17 | sb_ | hmm nice |
| 21:49.20 | ckknight | kergoth: there is a forum thread |
| 21:49.32 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 21:49.36 | ckknight | Kaaosa: known=false by default |
| 21:49.48 | ckknight | Kaaosa: you should do an or instead of a concat |
| 21:49.49 | Grum | ckknight: its also ingame right? |
| 21:49.58 | Kaaosa | Yeah, I just realize that. |
| 21:50.09 | ckknight | Grum: no, I didn't have enough time to work on the ingame docs, I plan to add that within 2-3 days |
| 21:50.15 | Fisker- | i'm having sex with you Grum |
| 21:50.20 | Grum | anal ? |
| 21:50.20 | rubik | how much is each piece of the cheesy "Arena Tier 0.5" gear? anyone know? (wowhead doesn't) |
| 21:50.27 | Grum | rubik: full set is <100g |
| 21:50.32 | Primer | rubik: supposedly cheap |
| 21:50.46 | Smj | Is it possible to have a macro do something to your targets target, like, if target is hostile, cast intercept on their target, but if target is friendly just cast intercept? |
| 21:50.50 | xyu` | is recount2 working? my recount is b0rked :D |
| 21:50.52 | rubik | cool.. was guessing ~20-25g per piece |
| 21:51.09 | Elsia | xyu`: try update again, committed a few fixes |
| 21:51.19 | Kaaosa | Is [FractionalHP(known=true)] only supposed to show if known=true or am I misinterpreting things? |
| 21:51.22 | Grum | Smj: yes should be possible |
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| 21:51.27 | Elsia | and recount2 isn't on the trunk yet, will be a while I think |
| 21:51.50 | xyu` | oki it had an update |
| 21:51.51 | xyu` | i'll give it a shot |
| 21:52.02 | Elsia | if there is errors, yell and I'll look at it |
| 21:52.09 | xyu` | sure thing |
| 21:52.40 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r65858 10PitBull/ (6 files in 3 dirs): PitBull: updated embeds and optdeps for 2.4. Removed broken InteractLines module. |
| 21:53.17 | exor674 | also... o.O one of my guildmates just got sent to shatt after clicking on the AH dude |
| 21:53.38 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r65859 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/ (. Core.lua FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc): |
| 21:53.38 | CIA-9 | FuBar_NameToggleFu: |
| 21:53.38 | CIA-9 | - Updated externals |
| 21:53.38 | CIA-9 | - ToC Update |
| 21:53.38 | CIA-9 | - Fixed cvar problem |
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| 21:55.04 | Fisker- | haha grum btw |
| 21:55.06 | Fisker- | you got owned |
| 21:55.07 | Fisker- | by men |
| 21:55.09 | Snago | exor674: lol |
| 21:55.29 | Kaaosa | Bleh, I don't understand the (known) arg. |
| 21:55.32 | Civrock | [2008/03/25 17:42:32-1325-x3]: Sink-1.0-62533 (SinkLib):258: attempt to call method 'IsActive' (a nil value) |
| 21:55.35 | Poul|Raider | its not posible for blizzard to check loot history/raid logs more then 30days back right |
| 21:55.47 | Strings` | Is there a cleaner way to export/import Omen settings than editing the omen.lua file in the top-level SavedVariables dir? |
| 21:57.12 | CIA-9 | 03brimm * r65860 10MyThreat/: |
| 21:57.12 | CIA-9 | MyThreat: |
| 21:57.12 | CIA-9 | -Added the AceConfig-3.0 external. |
| 21:57.24 | Yssaril | Poul|Raider, who knows :P |
| 21:57.49 | Jaxon | So what is displaying aura changes in the middle of my screen...hum. |
| 21:58.07 | xyu` | Elsia: works fine so far, no errors. thanks much |
| 21:58.16 | Nandini | maybe the blizzard fct is displaying auras for you |
| 21:58.17 | Elsia | xyu`: coolio thanks |
| 21:58.27 | kergoth | ckknight: default cowtip setup shows my guild on npc targets |
| 21:58.30 | kergoth | s/targets/mouseovers/ |
| 21:58.40 | Ellipsis | heh, neat |
| 21:59.01 | ckknight | kergoth: :-( |
| 21:59.12 | xyu` | hm no parrot? |
| 21:59.18 | ckknight | xyu`: sadly, no |
| 21:59.18 | xyu` | qq |
| 21:59.24 | ckknight | yes, this is the time for QQ |
| 21:59.36 | Nandini | mmm... tears :D |
| 22:00.08 | Poul|Raider | how does it work, if a gm is to destroy a item on your char, will it then get deleted on next logout or instant? |
| 22:00.26 | *** join/#wowace hi2u (n=nancy@c-76-126-1-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:00.34 | nevcairiel | Poul|Raider: instant |
| 22:00.43 | hi2u | heyy |
| 22:00.56 | CIA-9 | 03chexsum * r65861 10CombatAlert/ (CombatAlert.lua CombatAlert.toc embeds.xml libs/ readme.txt): |
| 22:00.56 | CIA-9 | CombatAlert: |
| 22:00.56 | CIA-9 | - Removed Parser code |
| 22:00.56 | CIA-9 | - Updated code to work with 2.4 |
| 22:00.56 | CIA-9 | - Added LibGUIDRegistry for future use |
| 22:00.56 | Poul|Raider | so if i got a gm mail saying the item is now removed and transfered to another char, and i still have it? |
| 22:00.57 | CIA-9 | - Added npc, tank, assist, star, circle, diamond, triangle, moon, square, cross and skull as valid unit types |
| 22:01.01 | *** join/#wowace calaveraDeluxe (n=calavera@e176021039.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:01.01 | Poul|Raider | they forgot to remove it? |
| 22:01.02 | hi2u | how do I get omen2 to show up in fubar? |
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| 22:01.26 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r65862 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (9 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: cleanup |
| 22:01.29 | Strings` | hi2u: Do you have LibSink-2.0 installed? I wasn't getting Omen to display at all until I installed that. |
| 22:01.41 | hi2u | I don't think so |
| 22:01.44 | hi2u | it's displaying fine for me |
| 22:01.44 | Antiarc | There isn't any FuBar integration yet |
| 22:01.46 | Antiarc | That's coming |
| 22:01.48 | hi2u | ohh |
| 22:01.50 | hi2u | okay GOOD lol! |
| 22:01.57 | Fisker- | there |
| 22:01.59 | Fisker- | 2.4 installed :o |
| 22:02.03 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: use my LFBP-3.0 branch! |
| 22:02.04 | Poul|Raider | LOL! |
| 22:02.11 | Antiarc | I'll try it :) |
| 22:02.11 | Poul|Raider | cheat Fisker-! |
| 22:02.12 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: and finish the config tables for me |
| 22:02.18 | NivFreak | hrmm, so replaced my 7 royal nighteyes with purified shadow pearls and lost 4mp5 for 8 +healing |
| 22:02.22 | Poul|Raider | Fisker-, then you cant login now, owned! |
| 22:02.26 | Gngsk | there's no way to tell from a combatlog event if the unit that fired is a pvp flagged PC is there? |
| 22:02.32 | NivFreak | not sure that was worth it |
| 22:02.34 | hi2u | Antiarc so as of right now the only way I can get omen to go away is /omen toggle? |
| 22:02.34 | NivFreak | for IFSR |
| 22:02.39 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 22:02.46 | hi2u | kk |
| 22:02.51 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: it wasnt =P |
| 22:02.55 | Jaxon | And the Prat minimap icon just won't go away. |
| 22:02.58 | Fisker- | no u Poul|Raider |
| 22:03.14 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: cry =/ |
| 22:03.28 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r65863 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: |
| 22:03.28 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:03.28 | CIA-9 | - Forgot the fishing daily one :) |
| 22:03.31 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r65864 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (8 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: initial rewrite commit |
| 22:03.51 | NivFreak | so yea, my guildes have a different color name tag |
| 22:03.53 | NivFreak | that's pretty cool |
| 22:04.29 | chexsum_ | gng, i cant think of a way to tell if a npc is classed as a pvp enemy with just the combatlog event |
| 22:04.34 | Nandini | it really annoys me when people include "lightweight" in the description of their addons; like anyone would really advertise their addon as being a resource hog |
| 22:04.46 | Ellipsis | Nandini: my addon uses more cpu than your addon! |
| 22:04.50 | chexsum_ | agro thrall and see what flags get set |
| 22:04.54 | Antiarc | Well, perhaps it is billed as such in light of the alternatives. |
| 22:04.57 | NivFreak | Nandini: KTM? |
| 22:05.25 | *** join/#wowace lagger (i=lagger@emly-56.res.umass.edu) |
| 22:05.25 | Gngsk | chexsum_, witchunt is so spammy now with all the non-pvp hostile events being shown |
| 22:05.36 | lagger | where did they move all the combat log bit constants |
| 22:05.49 | nevcairiel | lagger: Constants.lua =P |
| 22:05.51 | Nandini | then the addon should just say "better than the alternative" and be up front about it :P |
| 22:06.26 | xyu` | what if it isn't better, just lighter |
| 22:06.30 | JJSheets | Ahhh, patch day. What joyous fun. At least my addon isn't borked. :p |
| 22:06.31 | chexsum_ | my mod isnt spammy :) |
| 22:06.43 | kergoth | well, you can filter out spells you dont carea bout in witchhunt, but i expect ammo should add enemy vs friend options and such |
| 22:06.45 | kergoth | [Ammo]: poke |
| 22:06.49 | Elsia | recount: massive resource hog if you config it right! make the most of your memory and CPU power! |
| 22:07.09 | Kaaosa | I can't seem to figure out how to change settings in WithHunt now >_> |
| 22:07.13 | Kaaosa | WitchHunt* |
| 22:07.23 | Jaxon | Kaaosa: its in the new interface options |
| 22:07.26 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r65865 10BuffDrop/core.lua: BuffDrop: Combat log changes. Might even work. |
| 22:07.32 | Nandini | it's just a good thing W is far from B on standard keyboards |
| 22:07.47 | chexsum_ | combatalert > witchhunt :P |
| 22:07.59 | Nandini | Womabatalert! |
| 22:08.05 | Nandini | Wombatalert, even :) |
| 22:08.16 | CIA-9 | 03brimm * r65866 10MyThreat/: |
| 22:08.16 | CIA-9 | MyThreat: |
| 22:08.16 | CIA-9 | -Fixed externals (for real this time). |
| 22:08.19 | Nandini | the unholy offspring of WitchHunt and CombatAlert |
| 22:09.36 | Nandini | also need X-PitBull and MSBParrot |
| 22:09.37 | CIA-9 | 03brimm * r65867 10MyThreat/embeds.xml: |
| 22:09.37 | CIA-9 | MyThreat: |
| 22:09.37 | CIA-9 | -Updated embeds.xml file. |
| 22:09.52 | JJSheets | any ETA on Violation being updated to use Threat-2.0? |
| 22:10.25 | dylanm | Did someone fix it up for the combat log? |
| 22:10.42 | durcyn | there's a very limited 2.4 branch |
| 22:11.21 | JJSheets | ah. Oh well. That's the only addon I'm having problems with at the moment, and I rarely look at it. |
| 22:12.31 | Hobby | Is the Help on CowTip broken? |
| 22:12.39 | durcyn | huh, since when did the ace3 color picker not actually do anything |
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| 22:14.37 | NeoTron | durcyn: Ace3 is smart enough to know that you're color blind and thus don't NEED to pick a color |
| 22:14.49 | nevcairiel | exactly. :) |
| 22:15.22 | nevcairiel | anyway, if its a reproducable bug, report it to jira, i'm going to sleep :P |
| 22:15.54 | durcyn | fine, someone else try to change the border color on any omen window |
| 22:16.17 | exor674 | hrm |
| 22:16.26 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r65868 10PitBull/Aura/Core.lua: PitBull_Aura: change default alpha of cooldown text to 1, so people will stop complaining about dim grey timers. |
| 22:16.43 | exor674 | I keep getting a "...rface\AddOns\LibSink-2.0\LibSink-2.0\LibSink-2.0.lua line 274: attempt to call method 'IsActive' (a nil value)" error |
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| 22:17.16 | cladhaire | LightHeaded updated: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
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| 22:18.31 | keiss | Grum: btw ... u have the exalted MH ring , right ? |
| 22:19.36 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 22:19.38 | Arrowmaster | [2008/03/25 18:18:47-2847-x1]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1809: attempt to index local 'chatFrame' (a nil value): |
| 22:19.40 | Hobby | Is the Help on CowTip broken? |
| 22:20.05 | Jaxon | So even though I told my chat window NOT to display whispers, it is. |
| 22:20.07 | CIA-9 | 03stormfx * r65869 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc: |
| 22:20.07 | CIA-9 | cyCircled: |
| 22:20.07 | CIA-9 | - ToC -> 20400 |
| 22:20.12 | Stanzilla | it doesnt exist yet, Hobby |
| 22:20.23 | Cheads | cheers cladhaire =) |
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| 22:21.08 | CIA-9 | 03chexsum * r65870 10CombatAlert/ (CombatAlert.lua CombatAlert.toc libs/): |
| 22:21.08 | CIA-9 | CombatAlert: |
| 22:21.08 | CIA-9 | - Fixed a couple of errors |
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| 22:21.38 | stavmar | is violation still using threat 1.0 or threat 2.0? |
| 22:21.57 | durcyn | violation is still using parser. you might as well fahgedaboudit |
| 22:21.57 | JJSheets | threat 1.0 |
| 22:22.06 | mytos | anyone else running an ATI video card and having their entire driver error out about every 3 minutes in game |
| 22:22.18 | JJSheets | nVidia ftw |
| 22:22.56 | mytos | has nothing to do with ati/nividia, its 2.4 jacking me up |
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| 22:23.46 | _aLF | I don't saw a set to get the item from the pattern in PeriodicTable, so I made some lua code to fetch the information from wow.allakhazam.com and create a set. I wondering if this can be included in PerdiocTable ? |
| 22:24.06 | _aLF | too long phrase : I don't saw a set to get the item from the pattern in PeriodicTable |
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| 22:24.24 | peragor | Is there an easy way to easily convert the old dogtags in CowTip and PitBull to the new format? |
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| 22:24.58 | xyu` | They didn't fix the change target, ex-target dies, cast interrupted bug. :( :( :( :( : ( :( |
| 22:25.02 | xyu` | the one thing i was really hoping for |
| 22:26.13 | Chompers | azgalor on 2% with 20 seconds to enrage |
| 22:26.14 | Chompers | oh god |
| 22:26.17 | Grum | xyu`: wth? |
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| 22:26.34 | Grum | Chompers: noticably smaller rains? |
| 22:26.44 | Chompers | we spread out and stuff |
| 22:26.49 | willsutton | I'm looking for the latest version of Omen. The one over @ WoWInterface doesn't work for me? |
| 22:26.54 | xyu` | Grum, say you load up a spell on one mob, and then tab target to the next mob. ANd start casting on that one. |
| 22:26.58 | xyu` | ONce your old target dies. |
| 22:27.00 | durcyn | willsutton: http://files.wowace.com/Omen |
| 22:27.01 | Grum | willsutton: files.wowace.com/Omen |
| 22:27.02 | xyu` | your cast on the new target is interrupted |
| 22:27.08 | xyu` | Sooooooooooo fekking annoying |
| 22:27.20 | Grum | euh? how can you 'start casting' ? |
| 22:27.26 | Grum | you mean you 'server queue' the next cast? |
| 22:27.27 | xyu` | you can start the cast |
| 22:27.29 | xyu` | but it is interrupted |
| 22:27.34 | willsutton | is this the newest one? that works with 2.4 |
| 22:27.35 | willsutton | Omen-r65853.zip |
| 22:27.49 | xyu` | omen isn't working right now , i dont think |
| 22:27.51 | xyu` | so just hold off :) |
| 22:27.55 | willsutton | alrighty |
| 22:27.57 | vithos | omen2 is working |
| 22:27.58 | willsutton | thanks |
| 22:28.00 | syrae | willsutton: just use Omen.zip, when you grab it |
| 22:28.01 | Grum | oh kek |
| 22:28.05 | willsutton | kk |
| 22:28.05 | willsutton | ty |
| 22:28.07 | willsutton | vm |
| 22:28.09 | vithos | whatever is at files.wowace.com is the latest |
| 22:28.13 | Grum | cant we purge Omen? |
| 22:28.16 | Grum | so people will get Omen2? |
| 22:28.29 | NeoTron | xyu`: they even said that that bug was fixed on the PTR |
| 22:28.32 | vithos | i believe the directory is still Omen. |
| 22:28.34 | syrae | Purge doesn't work on that many targets |
| 22:28.44 | NeoTron | Grum: Omen IS Omen2 |
| 22:28.46 | Aiiane | Omen is Omen2 now |
| 22:28.46 | xyu` | NeoTron: it isn't fixed for me. i'll try it again right now. |
| 22:28.46 | NeoTron | there is no Omen2 |
| 22:28.59 | Gngsk | NeoTron, there is |
| 22:29.00 | NeoTron | xyu`: it'd not be the first timethey said something was fixed and it wasn't |
| 22:29.03 | Grum | dont call it omen2 then |
| 22:29.10 | vithos | it says Omen2 on the frame ingame. |
| 22:29.16 | Gngsk | it's Omen2! |
| 22:29.17 | Aiiane | they're the same thing. |
| 22:29.24 | Chompers | rogue t6, fucking rogues |
| 22:29.26 | Aiiane | Omen = Omen2 = Omen for 2.4 = whatever |
| 22:29.34 | keiss | what does it matter whats it called ? :) |
| 22:29.43 | Dekster | The latest version of Omen does indeed work. I had to resize the window, so try that if you don't see it at first. |
| 22:29.46 | willsutton | yay its workin now |
| 22:29.47 | Gnov | hi, I´m using ark inventory. But lately, every time I open it, it shows me:"Alert! Bug fix complete. The FrameLevel for the Bag window is currently at 130 and has been reset to 2...." how can I fix it? |
| 22:29.54 | willsutton | spicy new skin.. thats hot lmao |
| 22:29.56 | Gngsk | total rewrite, uses threat-2.0, it's omen v2, omen2, omen for 2.4 |
| 22:30.09 | willsutton | very nice job to who did it |
| 22:30.33 | kergoth | omen looks messed up for me, textures all hokey cause the frame is too small, or something |
| 22:30.41 | Dekster | Gnov: Try repositioning the window and make sure none of it is outside of your video frame (if that makes sense). |
| 22:30.43 | Antiarc | extend the frame size |
| 22:30.54 | Stanzilla | make it bigger by default :P |
| 22:31.05 | Pkekyo| | anyone here got any experience with rifle scopes that've taken a beating? |
| 22:31.09 | Dekster | Size matters? |
| 22:31.55 | willsutton | which mode of omen 2 should i use to see the whole party/raid threat? |
| 22:32.04 | Gnov | thx, i will try it :D |
| 22:32.06 | mytos | so yea, 2.4 doesnt like ATI hd video cards |
| 22:32.09 | kergoth | Antiarc: how? |
| 22:32.13 | keiss | sct is 2.4 compatible ? |
| 22:32.19 | kergoth | i see how to change the size of the bottom button thing, but that doesnt affect this issue |
| 22:32.38 | Daemona | kergoth ./omen -> unlock -> drag it with the small lined lower right corner? |
| 22:33.16 | mytos | kergoth: theres a dragtab in the bottom right corner of the second blackspace of omen, thats that acctual bar display zone |
| 22:33.21 | Gnov | Dekster, I reseted the position, but no change |
| 22:33.42 | mort | !rating 1841 |
| 22:33.42 | Xinhuan | 1841 rating gives 824(5s), 725(3s) and 626(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:33.57 | kergoth | ah, right |
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| 22:34.05 | Dekster | Gnov: That usually works for me. It's not a critical error though. It's just an annoying message. |
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| 22:34.27 | Dekster | Gnov: And a slight lag hit sometimes. |
| 22:34.27 | Grum | is any sct addon working atm? Parrot/MBST/SCT? |
| 22:34.37 | Stanzilla | sct |
| 22:34.39 | Gnov | but its lagging everytime I change something in the inventory |
| 22:34.41 | keiss | would like to know too .. |
| 22:34.43 | Pkekyo| | what is 'up' and 'down' in german? |
| 22:34.44 | durcyn | MSBT 5.1 alpha is around somewhere, SCT's been updated but still eats CPU for breakfast |
| 22:34.45 | kergoth | theres an alpha of msbt floating aorund |
| 22:34.47 | NeoTron | SCT should be updated, MSBT should be later from what the author said |
| 22:34.47 | kergoth | theres a 2.4 sct |
| 22:34.52 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: hoch and runter |
| 22:34.53 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 22:35.04 | NivFreak | do we have an addon to automate BG token turnins yet? :) |
| 22:35.10 | NivFreak | I have 100 to do =/ |
| 22:35.17 | mytos | neotron: whats the ETA on parrot do you know? |
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| 22:35.31 | Pkekyo| | any idea what H and T might mean then? (directions for adjusting a rifle scope both ways vertically) |
| 22:35.39 | willsutton | thx u guys. big help :)) |
| 22:35.42 | NeoTron | mytos: would have to ask ckknight about that.. |
| 22:35.42 | Dekster | Gnov: Sorry. That's all I got. |
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| 22:36.04 | mytos | Pkekyo: probably height and tilt |
| 22:36.09 | Chompers | ahoy archi |
| 22:36.10 | Elsia | Pkekyo|: hoch (up) and tief (down)? |
| 22:36.17 | Pkekyo| | ah, cheers |
| 22:36.20 | Chompers | just as we end the raid :/ |
| 22:36.25 | Chaud | Is it prat that is hiding the target option for right click in chat? |
| 22:36.27 | Gnov | ok Dekster, thanks for your respond :D |
| 22:36.34 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 22:36.40 | NeoTron | Chompers: don't be said. archimone is.. err |
| 22:36.41 | Pkekyo| | tief = down? wasn't runter = down? |
| 22:36.46 | alcaras | what is Smartclass now? |
| 22:36.49 | alcaras | [SmartClass] ? |
| 22:36.52 | sylvanaar | the text is tainted |
| 22:37.01 | Chaud | Even with prat disabled, where is this inspect from chat link thing |
| 22:37.03 | Gnov | tief = deep |
| 22:37.07 | Stanzilla | [23:34:52] <Stanzilla> Pkekyo|: hoch and runter |
| 22:37.13 | Nathanyel | tief = deep |
| 22:37.34 | Pkekyo| | ok, makes sense, I guess |
| 22:37.57 | NeoTron | Antiarc: my friend reports still that AoE mode doesn't seem to work |
| 22:37.59 | Nathanyel | yeah same root |
| 22:38.06 | NeoTron | not sure why as I at work |
| 22:38.11 | syrae | Pkekyo|: just think of it as "head" and "toe" :-P |
| 22:38.26 | NeoTron | Antiarc: all he gets is a black window w/o bars |
| 22:38.30 | CIA-9 | 03nebelmond * r65871 10OptiTaunt/ (6 files): |
| 22:38.30 | CIA-9 | OptiTaunt: |
| 22:38.30 | CIA-9 | - WoW 2.4 ready |
| 22:38.40 | NivFreak | optitaunt? |
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| 22:39.01 | syrae | optimal taunting |
| 22:39.06 | NeoTron | Antiarc: normal and overview modes work, claim no errors |
| 22:39.25 | Chaud | No one I ask has any idea what it is =\ |
| 22:39.30 | Pkekyo| | syrae: I knew what the functions did, just wondered why it said 'H' and 'T' :p |
| 22:39.53 | JJSheets | is away: Off To Work for a bit. |
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| 22:40.18 | Antiarc | I'll check it out. |
| 22:40.37 | NeoTron | He's in a raid, aoeing 3 mobs but no one else is present |
| 22:40.50 | NeoTron | does it need someone tanking the mob perhaps? |
| 22:40.57 | Antiarc | It shouldn't, no |
| 22:41.02 | Pkekyo| | I fucking hate grease! |
| 22:41.10 | [SW]Dodge | ~wowalert |
| 22:41.11 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 22:41.28 | NeoTron | he was using a voidwalker anyway |
| 22:41.33 | [SW]Dodge | us realms back up? |
| 22:41.35 | Pkekyo| | what does wowalert do? |
| 22:41.55 | Shirik | it's the server alert stuff you see |
| 22:42.03 | [SW]Dodge | it seems that it shows the notes left from the login screen |
| 22:42.42 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 22:43.04 | CIA-9 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r65872 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Zul'jin.lua: |
| 22:43.04 | CIA-9 | BigWigs: |
| 22:43.04 | CIA-9 | - fixed typo in line 293 of Zul'jin module |
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| 22:44.48 | alcaras | what is [SmartClass] in DogTag 3.0? |
| 22:45.55 | NeoTron | ETA beta for 2.4 compat WWS client => tomorrow |
| 22:46.41 | Pkekyo| | hah, this'll work... *glares at the superglued rifle stock and chuckles* |
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| 22:46.42 | Chaud | dogtag ingame doc not working? |
| 22:46.52 | Chompers | NeoTron: archi looks hilarious |
| 22:46.53 | alcaras | not for me, no |
| 22:46.59 | Chompers | all dead in about 20 seconds |
| 22:47.08 | NeoTron | in-game docs for dogtag3 is not available |
| 22:47.12 | NeoTron | Chompers: once you die you die hard |
| 22:47.28 | NeoTron | People think the main trick with archi is that no one dies |
| 22:47.39 | alcaras | anyone know off hand what [SmartClass] [CurXP] etc. are? |
| 22:47.41 | NeoTron | however that is not true. The real trick is to make sure taht if someone dies, no one else does |
| 22:47.45 | Chompers | can't believe people didn't want to try him tonight, i know we've only got 10 minutes till raid end |
| 22:47.49 | Chompers | but still |
| 22:48.03 | NeoTron | 10 minutes is like at least 2-3 attempts! |
| 22:48.10 | Chompers | :P |
| 22:48.18 | keiss | NeoTron: it goes hand-in-hand ... if they die even without the help of soul chatrge ... they are bound to die with it :D |
| 22:48.21 | NeoTron | pro tip - dying from the fire on the ground => no repair bills |
| 22:48.34 | NeoTron | keiss: not necessarily true |
| 22:48.36 | Chompers | after 2 nights trying azgalor, i don't think anyone cares |
| 22:48.37 | Chompers | :< |
| 22:48.43 | NeoTron | our first kill we had 2-3 deaths |
| 22:49.04 | Chompers | oh well, a reset tomorrow |
| 22:49.07 | NeoTron | surving a singular soul charge is not ALWAYS possible (think if it happens during a fear) |
| 22:49.16 | Chompers | then its back to the first three :/ |
| 22:49.28 | Matrix110 | or when he does it instant and people just got a fire tick and are a low HP class! |
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| 22:51.59 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r65873 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:51.59 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:51.59 | CIA-9 | - Added vendor info for me cooking recipes |
| 22:51.59 | CIA-9 | - Started GUI options development |
| 22:52.03 | kergoth | damn, the new witchhunt is useless as is |
| 22:52.05 | kergoth | hrm |
| 22:52.09 | kergoth | sets it to targe tonly for now |
| 22:52.25 | NeoTron | Antiarc: if it matters, he doesn't seem to get anything from the healer mode either |
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| 22:54.30 | Viper_0000 | my dogtags aren't working for pitbull, any suggestions? |
| 22:54.52 | Gngsk | /wrists |
| 22:55.20 | Viper_0000 | since the 2.4 patch |
| 22:55.34 | NeoTron | upgrade them to the new syntax |
| 22:55.37 | Viper_0000 | also any mods similat to hitsmode/simplecombatlog that are working for 2.4? |
| 22:55.46 | Xinhuan | dont' need any |
| 22:55.53 | Xinhuan | the 2.4 combat log can be configured to look like hitsmode |
| 22:55.57 | NeoTron | EavesDrop might do the trick if you absolutely want it too |
| 22:55.59 | Viper_0000 | oh snap |
| 22:56.02 | Xinhuan | and simplecombatlog |
| 22:56.08 | Xinhuan | you just haven't been looking hard enough for the options |
| 22:56.10 | Xinhuan | to do so |
| 22:56.13 | Viper_0000 | i know |
| 22:56.19 | Viper_0000 | i didnt know it was configurably |
| 22:56.41 | Xinhuan | right click the comatlog tab |
| 22:56.44 | Viper_0000 | i know |
| 22:56.47 | Xinhuan | and choose Settings |
| 22:56.55 | Xinhuan | under Formatting, turn on Bracers |
| 22:57.00 | Xinhuan | and tick everything in Colors |
| 22:57.12 | Viper_0000 | ty for the combatlog |
| 22:57.18 | Viper_0000 | but what about pitbull dogtags? |
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| 22:57.23 | Xinhuan | pitbull broke with patch |
| 22:57.26 | Xinhuan | it won't be fixed that soon |
| 22:57.31 | Viper_0000 | kk |
| 22:57.31 | Stanzilla | you have to update them to the new syntax |
| 22:57.36 | Xinhuan | at least, dogtags broke i mean |
| 22:57.36 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: wtf? :P |
| 22:57.41 | Xinhuan | you have to update |
| 22:57.56 | Viper_0000 | i have the latest versions of all ace mods |
| 22:58.23 | NeoTron | update => edit the actual dogtags |
| 22:58.30 | NeoTron | not install a new addon version |
| 22:58.57 | sylvanaar | i got the phoenix pet |
| 22:59.00 | Ellipsis | dogtag syntax changed, which means any custom tags you had need to be rewritten |
| 22:59.34 | [SW]Dodge | oh no... |
| 22:59.38 | Chaud | any eta on documentation ? =\ |
| 22:59.58 | [SW]Dodge | it was a lot work to setup CowTip and Pitbull Dogtags :E |
| 23:00.13 | kebinusan | yeah... |
| 23:00.19 | kebinusan | annoying to say the least |
| 23:00.44 | Chaud | It is clearly for the best =p |
| 23:00.45 | Viper_0000 | yeah |
| 23:00.47 | NeoTron | makes sure that MagicMarker DB changes are automatically upgraded to prevent this. |
| 23:00.48 | Viper_0000 | especially cause |
| 23:00.58 | Viper_0000 | i honestly spent, like an entire day setting up pitbull dogtags |
| 23:00.59 | Viper_0000 | lol |
| 23:01.07 | [SW]Dodge | yea annoying is a good word :) |
| 23:01.08 | Ellipsis | now you get to have all that fun again |
| 23:01.11 | Viper_0000 | to get it perfect |
| 23:01.12 | Odlaw | i don't seem to even see the cowtip texts |
| 23:01.26 | [SW]Dodge | Ellipsis: is the new syntax easier? |
| 23:01.26 | Viper_0000 | are dogtags easier to write now though? |
| 23:01.33 | Ellipsis | in many ways, yes |
| 23:01.42 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
| 23:01.42 | kergoth | tempted to go back to tinytip until someone posts their cowtip setup i can steal |
| 23:01.43 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:01.50 | Ellipsis | lazy bums |
| 23:01.53 | Chaud | they have and and then and if and such it looks like |
| 23:02.18 | Ellipsis | yeah, but the old operators for those still exist |
| 23:02.27 | alcaras | anyone have a working cowtip set up? |
| 23:02.34 | Ellipsis | the default one works fine :) |
| 23:02.35 | alcaras | or know what replaced [SmartClass]? |
| 23:02.41 | alcaras | how do i get back to default :-/ |
| 23:02.48 | Ellipsis | there should be a profile reset |
| 23:03.20 | Chaud | so if all of the old ones work, why doesn't [IsPlayer ? TalentTree] [IsPlayer ? TalentSpec:Prepend( - )] work |
| 23:03.23 | alcaras | Does anyone know what [SmartClass] ? :p |
| 23:03.27 | alcaras | is now? |
| 23:03.33 | Ellipsis | Chaud: becuase you need to put strings in "" now |
| 23:03.45 | Ellipsis | so just change the last bit to Prepend(" - ") |
| 23:04.07 | Chaud | now it is blank, no syntax error =\ |
| 23:04.09 | NeoTron | alcaras: asking once is plenty, asking twice in 1 minute doesn't help |
| 23:04.22 | Ellipsis | Chaud: are you targeting a player? |
| 23:04.34 | alcaras | NeoTron: sorry, wasn't sure if folks had it |
| 23:04.36 | Chaud | myself, apparently can't inspect my own talents |
| 23:04.41 | Chaud | other people's work though |
| 23:04.43 | alcaras | s/had/saw/ |
| 23:04.49 | Ellipsis | meh, maybe talent tags aren't working properly for the player unit |
| 23:04.54 | Ellipsis | go put a ticket on jira :P |
| 23:05.19 | Chaud | *grumble* |
| 23:05.20 | Ellipsis | preferably after testing without the IsPlayer checks |
| 23:05.29 | Ellipsis | so we know it's the talent tags and not IsPlayer |
| 23:05.32 | Chaud | They don't show up in examiner either |
| 23:05.34 | NeoTron | alcaras: probably one of the most asked questions today and I haven't seen there being an answer |
| 23:05.38 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 23:05.43 | Ellipsis | then it's probably a lib bug |
| 23:06.03 | Jaxon | So Bigwigs is now spamming me that they need my help |
| 23:06.18 | Chaud | They NEED it though! |
| 23:06.24 | Chaud | Help them or a kitten dies ! |
| 23:06.29 | [SW]Dodge | funny my cowtips throws an error if i hover an player direct but not if i hover the target frame with the same player :D |
| 23:06.36 | Zhinjio | I love the "DogTag Help " button |
| 23:06.52 | Zhinjio | it even has a the tooltip "Click to open helpful dogtag documentation!" |
| 23:06.56 | Zhinjio | thats awesome. |
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| 23:07.14 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: bark bark |
| 23:07.26 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: it was even cooler when it worked :P |
| 23:07.27 | NeoTron | to his defense, he's just one guy and didn't have time to do everything |
| 23:07.32 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 23:07.44 | Zhinjio | NeoTron: I'm not complaining. Truly. |
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| 23:08.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kemayo_] by ChanServ |
| 23:08.31 | NeoTron | I still find it to be bad form to change the syntax of something that people spend hours to configure without an auto-upgrade option :P |
| 23:08.31 | Zhinjio | I justed turned off my custom tags for now and I'll make them cooler when I grok it |
| 23:08.48 | Chaud | I'll wait for someone else to make tags =( |
| 23:09.05 | dylanm | NeoTron: That sounds like a lot of work. |
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| 23:09.23 | NeoTron | dylanm: depends on the amount of changes.. |
| 23:09.51 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: people that cared enough to spend hours writing tags should care enough to do it agian |
| 23:10.04 | Ellipsis | and some of the changes aren't auto-upgradable |
| 23:10.07 | Civrock | What'd be a working 3.0 dogtag to show Target of Target in CowTip? |
| 23:10.17 | Ellipsis | to show what, the name? |
| 23:10.22 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: or they just do whjat my friend does - change to other addons |
| 23:10.31 | Civrock | Yes. |
| 23:10.33 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: just because you did it once doesn't mean you want to do it all again |
| 23:10.35 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: that's great for lazy people who don't like the customization of dogtags |
| 23:10.44 | Ellipsis | if they don't want the functionality then they're free to not use it |
| 23:11.10 | alcaras | what other tooltip add on is there? |
| 23:11.15 | alcaras | i switched to cowtip b/c tinytip was fubard |
| 23:11.17 | alcaras | is it unfubared now? |
| 23:11.18 | NeoTron | if you spent 2 hours painting the fence and someone came and washed the color out, I'm sure you'd love to do it all over again. right? |
| 23:11.24 | Civrock | Just [Target] shows "mouseovertarget". |
| 23:11.25 | NeoTron | I mean if you did it once you must like it enough to do it again |
| 23:11.52 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: if I wanted the fence painted that color, and didn't bother to do my research that someone was planning to wash the fence, then yeah, I would |
| 23:12.04 | NeoTron | I seriously doubt anyone LIKES to spend 2 hrs configuring cowtip/parrot/whatever |
| 23:12.06 | Ellipsis | people made work for themselves, that's not ck's fault |
| 23:12.06 | Dashkal | The fence doesn't suddenly change it's composite material every few months... |
| 23:12.07 | NeoTron | they like the end result |
| 23:12.20 | Primer | its |
| 23:12.58 | Chaud | Does parrot even work =\ |
| 23:13.00 | Zhinjio | ooook, totem timers goes back off again. that was really borked. |
| 23:13.04 | NeoTron | mind you I don't use either because I don't need to customize it that much nor do I have the time or desire to configure it even once |
| 23:13.17 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: how bad was it? |
| 23:13.18 | [SW]Dodge | someone who is on US realms? i have some questions :)^^ |
| 23:13.27 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: exactly |
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| 23:13.41 | Viper_0000 | is there a dogtags wiki somewhere? |
| 23:13.42 | Ellipsis | users who don't want to take the time to set up tags don't have to |
| 23:13.43 | Viper_0000 | with the new cmds |
| 23:13.52 | Chaud | I wish =\ |
| 23:13.57 | Ellipsis | Viper_0000: the new documentation isn't finished yet |
| 23:14.19 | NeoTron | it's just sort of a crappy user experience, is all |
| 23:14.23 | NeoTron | you can't argue that point |
| 23:14.31 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: as soon as I dropped a totem, my bugsack 'sploded. |
| 23:14.43 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: lib errors? |
| 23:14.50 | Aiiane | [SW]Dodge: what's up? |
| 23:14.52 | Yssaril | anyone have a link to a 2.0 - 2.4 patch? my system is throwing errors trying to go 2.3-2.4 so i may need to reinstall |
| 23:15.01 | alcaras | Anyone know if TinyTip is functional now? |
| 23:15.06 | Zhinjio | no, PitBull_TotemTimers\TotemTimers.lua |
| 23:15.11 | dylanm | TinyTip has been working for some time. |
| 23:15.17 | Aiiane | Yssaril: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 23:15.20 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: dogtags are designed for a certain kind of user |
| 23:15.22 | alcaras | ok, it was broken a while ago, i guess i'll switch to it |
| 23:15.29 | Ellipsis | the only people affected by this syntax change are people using custom tags |
| 23:15.35 | Jaxon | dylanm: that's great for you but I can't get it to listen to my positioning and target preferences. |
| 23:15.37 | Ellipsis | which are exactly the kindo f people who take the time to write custom tags |
| 23:15.41 | Ellipsis | since, y'know, that's what they did |
| 23:15.48 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: the *last* error shows "1002: attempt to index field 'elements' (a nil value) |
| 23:15.55 | [SW]Dodge | Aiiane: query :) |
| 23:16.03 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: hmkay, as long as there are no missing lib errors it's not my fault |
| 23:16.05 | dylanm | Jaxon: This is from the one on wowace? |
| 23:16.06 | alcaras | farewell cowtip |
| 23:16.09 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: and as I said I know such a user. he's not about to do it again, because you know, he already did it once and didn't enjoy it then |
| 23:16.12 | Ellipsis | post on the thread or something |
| 23:16.17 | Yssaril | Aiiane, ty |
| 23:16.19 | Jaxon | dylanm: that one, or the one on Thrae's SVN, either one. |
| 23:16.22 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: that's great, I wish him luck in finding a suitable replacement |
| 23:16.23 | Viper_0000 | anyone try that alpha/beta necb? |
| 23:16.23 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: I don't know what kind of user you know of that just love to do it all over again |
| 23:16.25 | dylanm | I know one of the more recent builds on his svn is kinda borked. |
| 23:16.28 | dylanm | With positioning. |
| 23:16.33 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: doing it over again was UNAVOIDABLE. |
| 23:16.35 | Viper_0000 | is it worth using? |
| 23:16.54 | Cryect | Elsia, sounds like the syncing in Recount isn't working well at all from what I've heard. No Idea what exactly though else than everyone is getting different numbers |
| 23:17.03 | dylanm | I reverted but recently I've been hacking on my own tooltip thing so I haven't seen if he'd fixed it. |
| 23:17.12 | dylanm | I don't expect his personal trunk to always work. |
| 23:17.22 | Elsia | Cryect: can't test at all until EU gets the PTR tomorrow unfortunately |
| 23:17.23 | dylanm | If he pushes that sort of thing onto wowace he's a glutton for punishment. |
| 23:17.31 | Elsia | syncing is really hard to test reliably on the PTR :P |
| 23:17.43 | Elsia | i mean patch |
| 23:17.45 | Cryect | I know |
| 23:17.51 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Cryect |
| 23:17.51 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Cryect |
| 23:18.02 | Cryect | Was just letting you know if you hadn't heard yet :-p |
| 23:18.19 | Cryect | Testing syncing is like a major pain in the ass |
| 23:18.40 | Elsia | haven't heard anything yet, no posts on it so far so it's good to know. |
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| 23:19.13 | Cryect | I prolly will make an addon for simulating combat log messages and sending to multiple clients for testing of syncing in Recount 2 I'm thinking |
| 23:19.29 | Cryect | Yeah, I didn't see any posts about it hence I said |
| 23:19.54 | Elsia | I have some idea what the issue might be. |
| 23:20.03 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65874 10RBM_Hyjal/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:20.03 | CIA-9 | RBM_Hyjal: |
| 23:20.03 | CIA-9 | - Initial Commit, 2.4 version completely untested. Archimonde Fear Ward detection WILL NOT work right now. Will work with it when I have more time. |
| 23:20.12 | Repenix | omg he's back! |
| 23:20.20 | Elsia | the way I sync right now people who are not using recount may show up as having different numbers, as they don't send syncs |
| 23:20.20 | keiss | what is RBM |
| 23:20.24 | sb_ | whats RBM? |
| 23:20.29 | sb_ | rxxxx boss mods? |
| 23:20.34 | sb_ | whatever r is |
| 23:20.48 | Elsia | but I want to avoid broadcasting all members just to fix that really |
| 23:21.07 | Cleanse | is there a way to make Omen epretty? |
| 23:21.15 | Antiarc | It's very customizable |
| 23:21.16 | Antiarc | Try /omen config |
| 23:21.19 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck is my Chronometer still working...... |
| 23:21.31 | Cryect | I would have everyone sync everyone who isn't using Recount just space it out |
| 23:21.39 | Cryect | if you are doing it out of combat that is |
| 23:21.39 | xyu` | antiarc it's not truely scalable though |
| 23:21.41 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: we cant get aoe mode to work |
| 23:21.42 | alcaras | Assessment is broken I presume |
| 23:21.44 | xyu` | like the buttons for oman are always the same size |
| 23:21.44 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: because UNIT_SPELLCAST_START and friends didn't change? |
| 23:21.45 | durcyn | alcaras: very. |
| 23:21.55 | xyu` | What if i want to truly scale the entire omen? |
| 23:22.04 | xyu` | buttons and all, not just drag the window smaller |
| 23:22.05 | Elsia | well I may add something like that but I'll first have to see the symptoms, maybe there is a less brute solution |
| 23:22.05 | Zhinjio | I had a bunch of errors starting with RBO_xxx all start freaking out. |
| 23:22.10 | Zhinjio | anyone know what that is? |
| 23:22.15 | Zhinjio | RecipeBook maybe? |
| 23:22.17 | Antiarc | Try scaling OmenAnchor |
| 23:22.28 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: randomize start time, if your number is larger send out a correction type stuff? |
| 23:22.57 | xyu` | how do i do that o_O |
| 23:23.01 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: you mean like the original Recount sync code? |
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| 23:23.38 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: i never seen recount code beyond adding more saved fights |
| 23:23.45 | Cryect | heh ah |
| 23:23.47 | Josh_Borke | and yes, i realize that is horrible horrible english |
| 23:24.04 | JCinDE | yay patch day! |
| 23:24.34 | Cryect | I'm still baffled a little on how I will handle syncing in Recount 2 though I have some ideas |
| 23:24.49 | Josh_Borke | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:24.56 | Cryect | I'm not doing anything yet |
| 23:25.15 | Cryect | the problem is I store the data in Recount 2 so drastically different from any other addon out there |
| 23:25.25 | JCinDE | So EQL is getting more broken with every patch and beql seems to have stalled. Does anyone use a good quest log replacement that is still maintained? |
| 23:25.57 | Viper_0000 | all i need to fix is cowtip + pitbull |
| 23:26.10 | [ | is there a guide or something for the new dogtags? |
| 23:26.19 | Ellipsis | docs will be out soon |
| 23:26.39 | Viper_0000 | all i really have for dogtags in pitbull is |
| 23:26.40 | Chaud | Guide: Ask Ellipsis how to fix every tag =( |
| 23:26.45 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 23:26.47 | Kemayo | JCinDE: Try BetterQuest. I'm still writing it, though. |
| 23:26.52 | Viper_0000 | if it's a friend, color text by class, if it's hostile, color by hostility |
| 23:26.53 | Ellipsis | I can help answer questions if you have problems with specific tags |
| 23:27.13 | Ellipsis | [IsFriend?ClassColor!HostileColor] should work |
| 23:27.20 | JCinDE | Kemayo how far along is it? Functional? |
| 23:27.23 | Viper_0000 | such as |
| 23:27.24 | Viper_0000 | [Status | AFK | IsFriend ? [IsPlayer ? SmartHP:Short:ClassColor] ! SmartHP:Short:HostileColor] |
| 23:27.25 | Viper_0000 | k |
| 23:27.26 | Chaud | Want to tell me how the inspect by chat link works then =p ? |
| 23:27.27 | Viper_0000 | ill try yours |
| 23:27.55 | Ellipsis | Viper_0000: just make sure the color tag is before the text you want to be colored |
| 23:27.56 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: why is data storage format a problem? |
| 23:28.12 | Kemayo | JCinDE: Completely functional. |
| 23:28.19 | JCinDE | I'll check it out. |
| 23:28.26 | Civrock | I still need a 3.0 dogtag that shows the Target of Target's Name. |
| 23:28.31 | Civrock | Por favor. |
| 23:28.37 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: you've got great ideas how to sync databases that isn't bandwidth hungry? |
| 23:28.40 | Viper_0000 | what's the new tag for smarthp? |
| 23:28.47 | Twist- | so, I know it's not ace.. but has anyone tried the new bongos? |
| 23:28.49 | Cryect | aren't* |
| 23:29.12 | Twist- | I don't see how to create new actionbars |
| 23:29.12 | Ellipsis | Viper_0000: there isn't one...what are you trying to do? |
| 23:29.33 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: But I don't store stuff like hey Bill's total damage is 2000 or anything |
| 23:30.29 | Viper_0000 | im trying to redo this : |
| 23:30.29 | Viper_0000 | [Status | AFK | IsFriend ? [IsPlayer ? SmartHP:Short:ClassColor] ! SmartHP:Short:HostileColor] |
| 23:30.30 | Elsia | hmm I wonder if the real solution to syncing isn't amortization (what I try with lazy syncing) but bandwidth over time |
| 23:30.50 | Ellipsis | Viper_0000: what did SmartHP do before? |
| 23:30.57 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: checksums of data |
| 23:30.57 | Elsia | keep a constant stream of updates at low bandwidth until all information is conveyed |
| 23:31.13 | Viper_0000 | health percent, and if it figures out the actual health like 1.1k/2.2k, it'll use the mor edetailed one |
| 23:31.14 | Civrock | Any clue, Ellipsis? |
| 23:31.19 | JCinDE | Kemayo I just installed it...but I'm not sure it's working. It show up in my ACP. It's enabled. I saw no errors. But the quest log doesn't appear any different. |
| 23:31.27 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: CHecksums are great if everyone agrees to start/stop recording data at specified times etc otherwise they are worthless |
| 23:31.45 | Ellipsis | Civrock: Name(unit="targettarget") |
| 23:31.55 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: though I'm considering killing that feature partially to sync that way in some sort of fashion |
| 23:32.10 | Josh_Borke | why aren't they useful? |
| 23:32.23 | xyu` | is magicmarker disabled? |
| 23:32.27 | xyu` | i have it installed and it's not loading up :P |
| 23:32.35 | Cryect | There is no way to compute the exact same checksums |
| 23:32.44 | xyu` | and fubar magicmarker says dependencies missing: magicmarker o_O |
| 23:32.45 | Josh_Borke | that's bollocks |
| 23:32.54 | Josh_Borke | cryecT: you're making an assumption that you're not conveying |
| 23:33.03 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: are you assuming that the checksum involves time? |
| 23:33.15 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: I said assume people can restart their database when they want to |
| 23:33.21 | Cryect | at any moment in time |
| 23:33.33 | Cryect | if you have a delta database you are working with it kinda would work |
| 23:33.37 | Cryect | but be expensive |
| 23:33.46 | Josh_Borke | you want to ignore all data prior to when they reset their database, correct? |
| 23:33.55 | Viper_0000 | how do I |
| 23:34.02 | Civrock | Ellipsis: Thanks. |
| 23:34.07 | Viper_0000 | make this [Status or FractionalHP(known=true) or PercentHP:Percent], color my classcolro if friendly and hostiel color if hostile |
| 23:34.17 | Viper_0000 | if i can get a good example of that, i should be able to do the rest on my own |
| 23:34.42 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: fyi after the cenimatic in MT i have this scrolbar stuck on my screen tht i think is from AceGUI-3.0 or AceConfigDialog-3.0 because it matchs up exactly with the config in omen |
| 23:34.42 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: Right, anyways I've not really thought out the problem nor tryign to at the moment since I've been making changes to the way things work still |
| 23:34.52 | Josh_Borke | well get on it! |
| 23:34.57 | Civrock | Oh, what would be a dogtag to show the target of my mouseovertarget? |
| 23:35.08 | Cryect | I think having the addon fully working without syncing is more important :-p |
| 23:35.25 | CIA-9 | 03tsigo * r65875 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Kalecgos.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Kalecgos: Adjust respawn to 30 seconds. |
| 23:35.57 | Elsia | main reason why I added the sync code so quickly is really because I realized that blizz wouldn't fix greater elemental combat log entries |
| 23:36.22 | Cryect | shrug w/ greater elemental combat log entries its kinda easy |
| 23:36.29 | Elsia | basically healing correction and greater elemental attribution are functionality syncs, not data syncs |
| 23:36.30 | Cryect | they are exactly 1 GUID higher than the totem |
| 23:36.31 | Viper_0000 | [Status or FractionalHP(known=true) or PercentHP:Percent] - how would i make it color by classcolor if friendly, and hostile color if not a player |
| 23:36.40 | stavmar | so does anyone havea nice clean DogTag setup fro CowTip |
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| 23:36.48 | Cryect | the bottom part that is of course |
| 23:36.49 | Ellipsis | Viper_0000: put the tag I gave you before in front of it |
| 23:36.50 | Elsia | doh |
| 23:36.59 | Cryect | hehe you didn't notice that I'm guessing :-p |
| 23:36.59 | kergoth | quickly copies & pastes wowwiki's MgT mob info into MobNotes before his first run there |
| 23:36.59 | Elsia | is that reliable? |
| 23:37.27 | Cryect | It is unless they actually multithread their creation code which I don't know maybe they do but I doubt it |
| 23:37.42 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: wtf is MgT? |
| 23:37.46 | Cryect | It should be reliable enough though |
| 23:37.57 | dylanm | Hmmmmm what new instance could there be |
| 23:37.58 | Josh_Borke | reliable enough for a mod :-D |
| 23:38.05 | Aiiane | Josh_Borke: Magister's Terrace, abbreviated |
| 23:38.10 | Elsia | well I'll test that out tomorrow, I'll be happy to ditch that elemental sync code in a heartbeat |
| 23:38.11 | Josh_Borke | well gd |
| 23:38.16 | Zeksie | is back -( Silly SSC alts run )- gone 3 hr 57 min 56 s |
| 23:38.16 | Josh_Borke | i've seen it called too many things now |
| 23:38.20 | Aiiane | yeah, josh |
| 23:38.29 | Aiiane | that's what happens when there's no clear unique acronym :P |
| 23:38.39 | Cryect | It worked from everything I tested on the TTR and that server was under high load at the time |
| 23:38.48 | Xinhuan | w00t dps trinket dropped from 3rd boss in heroic MT |
| 23:38.53 | Xinhuan | the chance on periodic damage one |
| 23:38.58 | kergoth | nice |
| 23:39.02 | CIA-9 | 03sylvanaar * r65876 10Prat/ (Prat.toc Prat_FuBar/Prat_FuBar.toc): Prat: Move the saved variables for Prat_FuBar back to Prat.toc until something more intelligent can be coded. |
| 23:39.17 | Primer | man, curse.com could really use some load balancing |
| 23:39.22 | ulic | most people seem to be using MT = Magisters Terrace and Tomb(s) = Mana Tombs, from what I've seen, but it can be confusing :) |
| 23:39.24 | sylvanaar | no kidding |
| 23:39.39 | Primer | (gdb) p (xmlChar *) xmlGetProp(doc->children->children->children, "code") |
| 23:39.39 | Primer | $17 = (unsigned char *) 0x80948b8 "1000" |
| 23:39.46 | Primer | oops, wrong channel :) |
| 23:39.50 | Elsia | it's kinda hacky, but if it works it's fine by me |
| 23:40.01 | kergoth | MT is just silly for magisters terrace, when theres already an mt |
| 23:40.02 | Cryect | so uh is Recount and Recap the only damage addons updated for 2.4? |
| 23:40.14 | Elsia | looks like it |
| 23:40.26 | Elsia | not sure about recap even, but hawksy was working on it for sure |
| 23:40.37 | Cryect | Well there is some new one as well I saw but less than 200 people had downloaded that |
| 23:40.44 | Cryect | You see Damage Meters is discontinued? |
| 23:40.49 | Elsia | yeah |
| 23:40.57 | sylvanaar | wow finally |
| 23:41.04 | Viper_0000 | that works, but how do i get it to hide the health info, or color it green, if it's a flight master or somethign |
| 23:41.06 | Chaud | they weren't needed anymore =\ |
| 23:41.11 | Cryect | heh kinda sad in a way considering used that way way back in the day :-p |
| 23:41.13 | Viper_0000 | i don't know how i did thati n my old dogtags |
| 23:41.26 | Ellipsis | Viper_0000: that depends what you mean by "if it's a flight master or something" |
| 23:41.32 | Ellipsis | do you mean if it's an NPC? if it's pvp flagged? ... |
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| 23:41.59 | Viper_0000 | like if i a target a flight master, the health is colored brown, for warrior, instead of green |
| 23:42.00 | Cryect | and had fun writing code that let me screw with the sync data if I felt annoyed at people obssessiing over them |
| 23:42.02 | Viper_0000 | im ont sure how that works |
| 23:42.07 | Xinhuan | LOL 49k pyroblast on our tank |
| 23:42.08 | Xinhuan | by kael |
| 23:42.14 | Ellipsis | Viper_0000: just make sure you add the IsPlayer check back in |
| 23:42.18 | dylanm | You want to check if it's a player or not. |
| 23:42.22 | Nandini | i don't know why i bother even logging on today, yet another crash |
| 23:42.34 | Xinhuan | my server hasn't crashed yet ;p |
| 23:42.35 | Viper_0000 | how would i do that? |
| 23:42.39 | Cryect | because you're a masochist! |
| 23:42.42 | Viper_0000 | [IsPlayer?IsFriend?ClassColor!HostileColor] |
| 23:43.01 | Ellipsis | you probably just want [IsPlayer?ClassColor!HostileColor] |
| 23:43.13 | Nandini | and our GM is still dead set on doing solarian/vr tonight |
| 23:43.14 | dylanm | I think he wants enemy players colored all mean-looking. |
| 23:43.34 | Viper_0000 | ty |
| 23:43.42 | Yssaril | does bliz always a release a 2.xx to 2.current patch? |
| 23:43.50 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 23:44.30 | Chaud | Ellipsis figure out what this inspect by chat link is for me ! =( |
| 23:44.40 | watchoutX | question about omen... :) |
| 23:44.49 | Ellipsis | Chaud: lolwut? |
| 23:44.52 | watchoutX | did you dump the minimap icon completely? |
| 23:45.39 | Chaud | * Players will now be able to inspect other players via their chat link. |
| 23:45.46 | CIA-9 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r65877 10Cartographer_Sidelist/ (Cartographer_Sidelist.lua Cartographer_Sidelist.toc): |
| 23:45.46 | CIA-9 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 23:45.46 | CIA-9 | - TOC bump |
| 23:45.46 | CIA-9 | - remove comment |
| 23:45.54 | Antiarc | It doesn't have a minimap button right now. That'll be changing. |
| 23:46.11 | Ellipsis | Chaud: right click someone's name in chat and look for the "inspect" option? :P |
| 23:46.13 | Kemayo | JCinDE: Huh -- it's not even adding the levels? |
| 23:46.32 | JCinDE | Kemayo: I got it working. Had to go get some dependencies installed. |
| 23:46.34 | Yssaril | Antiarc, is it possible to get to the omen menu thru the bliz menu? |
| 23:46.48 | JCinDE | Is there an options dialog or just slashcommands? |
| 23:46.59 | Yssaril | <--- would try it myself if i weren't reinstalling /cry |
| 23:47.00 | watchoutX | Antiarc, ok thanks |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-9 | 03sekuyo * r65878 10Cartographer_NoteTarget/Cartographer_NoteTarget.toc: |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-9 | Cartographer_NoteTarget |
| 23:47.01 | CIA-9 | - TOC bump |
| 23:47.11 | Chaud | it doesn't exist |
| 23:47.15 | Antiarc | Yup, Options -> interface options -> AddOns tab -> Ace3 -> Omen button |
| 23:47.27 | *** join/#wowace chdst (n=Dst@cpe-071-076-153-212.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 23:47.32 | Kemayo | JCinDE: /bt will get you options. |
| 23:47.35 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07Ace3 * r65879 10BetterQuest/modules/modules.xml: BetterQuest: s/\/\// |
| 23:47.52 | JCinDE | you mean /bq ? =) |
| 23:48.03 | Primer | I guess StinkyQueue is now obsolete, right? |
| 23:48.09 | Kemayo | JCinDE: Technically speaking, yes. |
| 23:48.36 | CIA-9 | 03sekuyo * r65880 10Cartographer_Icons_CtMapModPack/Cartographer_Icons_CtMapModPack.toc: |
| 23:48.36 | CIA-9 | Cartographer_Icons_CtMapModPack |
| 23:48.36 | CIA-9 | - TOC bump |
| 23:48.57 | dJe781 | Quick question : is there any way to identify a neutral target with DogTags ? As IsEnemy is an alias for ~IsFriend, I can't do anything like [~IsFriend ? ~IsEnemy] :( |
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| 23:49.30 | JCinDE | Kemayo: Looks promising. I hope there is a font size option on the way. heh |
| 23:49.34 | Kemayo | Hm... time to work out why nothing is showing up in my interface options. |
| 23:49.37 | vulture- | anyone know how to disable all the retarded omen audio/visual warnings |
| 23:50.06 | Primer | I find those retarded warnings to be quite useful |
| 23:50.06 | Antiarc | Omen options -> modules -> single target -> warnings -> uncheck "enable warnings" |
| 23:50.16 | Viper_0000 | [IsPlayer?ClassColor!HostileColor][Status or AFK or FractionalHP:Short(known=true) or PercentHP:Percent], how do I add, i hide health text and say if the person's afk |
| 23:50.25 | Kemayo | JCinDE: Feel free to suggest things. |
| 23:50.28 | Primer | "oh shit! Fade/Shatter!" |
| 23:50.38 | Ellipsis | it already does that Viper_0000 |
| 23:50.52 | Viper_0000 | not working for me |
| 23:51.06 | vulture- | oh, the +'s are expand |
| 23:51.34 | Nandini | strangely, i don't have an ace3 listed in interface options > addons |
| 23:51.36 | Zeksie | so, how's things working out in the land of 2.4 ? |
| 23:51.43 | Nandini | are you all using ace3 from branches? |
| 23:51.45 | Chaud | Slowly. |
| 23:51.56 | Kemayo | Nandini: I'm using branches, and I don't have it in there either. |
| 23:51.57 | vulture- | lthanks |
| 23:53.38 | Kemayo | Nandini: There's a *commented out* bit in Ace3.lua that looks like it would put stuff into interface options. |
| 23:53.38 | vulture- | I unchecked enable warnings, but they still go off |
| 23:53.52 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65881 10RBM/ (60 files in 15 dirs): |
| 23:53.52 | CIA-9 | RBM: |
| 23:53.52 | CIA-9 | - Initial Commit 2.4 Version (Tested slightly) |
| 23:56.07 | *** join/#wowace deadlock (n=deadlock@12-214-50-87.client.mchsi.com) |
| 23:56.33 | keiss | Elsia: any possibility of a 'lock main window only' option ? |
| 23:56.57 | sb_ | whats RBM? :/ |
| 23:57.09 | Primer | Really Bad Mod |
| 23:57.23 | Elsia | keiss: possibly, I know it's annoying if one cannot move detail or config windows around when lock is set |
| 23:57.37 | Kalman| | So... is it intended that disabled frames still show in Pitbull? |
| 23:57.38 | keiss | exactly ... its beyond annoying tbh :) |
| 23:58.03 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r65882 10Recount/ (LazySync.lua Recount.lua): |
| 23:58.03 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 23:58.03 | CIA-9 | - Temporary fix for level check error in sync code until I find the real source of the problem. |
| 23:58.28 | *** join/#wowace Erica (n=chatzill@cpe-075-178-181-026.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:58.47 | Erica | When I try to open help in Cowtip linetexts, I get [2008/03/25 19:56:04-273-x2]: CowTip-3.0r65841\Text\Text.lua:472: attempt to call method 'OpenHelp' (a nil value) |
| 23:59.03 | Ellipsis | known issue |
| 23:59.07 | Erica | Also it shows mobs and npcs as being in my guild |
| 23:59.15 | Ellipsis | are you unguilded? |
| 23:59.19 | Erica | nope |
| 23:59.32 | Ellipsis | well your tag probably just needs to be updated |
| 23:59.59 | Erica | Is there an easy way to reset just the tags in cowtip? |
