| 00:00.26 | NeoTron | has a 3.8MB file for translations |
| 00:00.47 | Xinhuan | so why would anyone want to translate quests to italian |
| 00:00.51 | NeoTron | Alar of course considered putting 3.8 MB in the TOC file to be smarter. :P |
| 00:01.00 | NeoTron | because they have tons of spare time? I dunno |
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| 00:02.15 | Xinhuan | the rest of the game isn't even italian supported |
| 00:02.20 | Antiarc | Wait, WHAT |
| 00:02.23 | Antiarc | He has a 3.8mb TOC? |
| 00:02.28 | NeoTron | no he doesn't |
| 00:02.28 | NeoTron | but |
| 00:02.34 | NeoTron | his version uses data from the toc |
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| 00:02.39 | NeoTron | I have yet to find the data he's using |
| 00:03.04 | Xinhuan | i was just curious if putting data in the TOC metadata fields counts towards addon memory ;p |
| 00:03.04 | NeoTron | the design of the addon seems to indicate he does plan to put it in the toc of one or more addons |
| 00:03.53 | Xinhuan | care to test out my theory? |
| 00:03.59 | Xinhuan | anyone? |
| 00:04.07 | ckknight | you can ;-) |
| 00:04.08 | Orionshock | eh? |
| 00:04.12 | Xinhuan | for infrequently accessed data like quest text |
| 00:04.15 | NeoTron | "look, my quest translator addon uses no memory!" |
| 00:04.22 | Xinhuan | it could really be smart to have a 2.8 mb toc file ;p |
| 00:04.34 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: lol |
| 00:04.34 | NeoTron | I guess it might put it outside of the lua-world and store it in normal c-strings |
| 00:04.52 | Xinhuan | question is, is it really stored in C-strings? |
| 00:04.59 | Xinhuan | or does wow reread the toc file everytime |
| 00:05.21 | thul | "I have no excuses, least of all for God. Like all tyrants, he is not worthy of the spit you would waste on negotiations. The deal we have is infinitely simpler--I don't call him to account, and he extends me the same courtesy"?Quellcrist Fallconer, Campaign Diaries |
| 00:06.16 | Tuller | I do the epic, "external tag" |
| 00:07.14 | NeoTron | that I don't know |
| 00:07.28 | NeoTron | it is, without a doubt, a really bizarre thing to do |
| 00:09.20 | keiss | the translating itself is bizarre ... |
| 00:10.02 | NeoTron | well |
| 00:10.07 | Megalon | hm |
| 00:10.08 | NeoTron | people translate all sorts of things |
| 00:10.16 | Megalon | QuestTranslator v1.7 is 65mb ziped |
| 00:10.22 | Kaelten | OneBag has a Norwegian translation |
| 00:10.32 | Kaelten | 65mb? |
| 00:10.32 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 00:10.34 | Cryect | How big is the toc file for 1.7 |
| 00:10.38 | keiss | hehe ... nice |
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| 00:10.41 | Megalon | ah |
| 00:10.43 | Megalon | 1.65mb |
| 00:10.48 | Megalon | missread the download ;D |
| 00:10.52 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:10.57 | Cryect | haha 1.65mb small diff |
| 00:11.09 | NeoTron | it's a 4 MB datafile essentially |
| 00:11.16 | Megalon | 5.4mb |
| 00:11.31 | NeoTron | ah bigger than the version I randomly found |
| 00:11.43 | Megalon | wow-europe mentioned it on the page, its 38k+ quests translated |
| 00:11.57 | NeoTron | so summary: QT is weird. QT2 is weird with Alar's special touch |
| 00:12.15 | NeoTron | I bet he thinks it uses too much memory |
| 00:12.23 | Megalon | and i don't think alar will save it in the toc file itself |
| 00:12.33 | Cryect | AlarCore-4.0 will be ported to the TOC |
| 00:12.34 | Megalon | he only splitted it up, for level ranges as it seems |
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| 00:12.46 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 00:12.49 | NeoTron | that could be it |
| 00:12.53 | Megalon | so it doesn't load unneeded ranges |
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| 00:13.02 | NeoTron | only store metadata about the quests in the toc |
| 00:13.24 | Megalon | yea, qt-FromLevel, qt-ToLevel or what the fields are called |
| 00:13.26 | NeoTron | I blame it on the code not being the easiest to follow |
| 00:13.30 | Megalon | and how much quests are in the addon |
| 00:13.40 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07qt2 * r64906 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/AlarLib-3.0/AlarFrames-3.0.lua: |
| 00:13.40 | CIA-9 | AlarLib-3.0: |
| 00:13.40 | CIA-9 | Commented out experimental section |
| 00:14.01 | keiss | he is never on irc ? |
| 00:14.16 | Cryect | if he ever is, well he doesn't use the name alar |
| 00:14.27 | Cryect | and if he doesn't its prolly a good idea! |
| 00:14.28 | Megalon | hehe |
| 00:14.44 | Cryect | ~seen alar |
| 00:14.46 | purl | i haven't seen 'alar', Cryect |
| 00:14.46 | [SW]Dodge | what do you think is faster? looping through the whole spellbook using "for .. do for .. do end end " each time a function is called or looping 1 time, storing the information in an table and then going through that table with "for k,v in pairs(t) do ... end" ? |
| 00:15.18 | JJSheets | store the info, especially if you're using it often. |
| 00:15.35 | Megalon | who knows, perhaps he is a known addoncoder in the italian addon comunity ;) |
| 00:15.40 | JoshBorke | [SW]Dodge: store info |
| 00:15.48 | [SW]Dodge | thanks |
| 00:15.57 | JoshBorke | quite clearly superiour |
| 00:16.02 | NeoTron | all I know is I don't plan to use Alarware |
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| 00:16.12 | JJSheets | Is there a lib that does this spell storing info already? |
| 00:16.22 | JoshBorke | no, what wouldy ou have it store? |
| 00:16.33 | JJSheets | spell info. :p |
| 00:17.12 | [SW]Dodge | i have a lua file with the result of "for i = 1, 100000 do GetSpellInfo(i) end" :D |
| 00:17.17 | JJSheets | lol |
| 00:17.24 | [SW]Dodge | 23,4mb ^.^ |
| 00:17.35 | NeoTron | lots of spells |
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| 00:17.42 | [SW]Dodge | all spells :P |
| 00:17.46 | Cryect | uh yeah I wouldn't do that for all spells |
| 00:18.03 | JJSheets | I'm thinking such a lib would by used to look up the index and book type (spell/pet) for all known spells. |
| 00:18.28 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64907 10QuestTranslator2/ (AlarLib.lua QuestTranslator2.toc qt2.lua): QuestTranslator2 |
| 00:18.48 | CIA-9 | 03morgalm * r64908 10MorgDKP/BidQuery.lua: |
| 00:18.48 | CIA-9 | MorgDKP: |
| 00:18.48 | CIA-9 | - Fix for nil error on morgbid check |
| 00:19.02 | Cryect | Great commit notes for QT2 |
| 00:19.05 | Xinhuan | hey he updated his toc |
| 00:19.10 | Xinhuan | go check it out |
| 00:19.15 | JJSheets | lol |
| 00:19.18 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 00:19.29 | Cryect | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/QuestTranslator2/QuestTranslator2.toc |
| 00:19.31 | dylanm | Does it really... translate? |
| 00:19.32 | Cryect | this toc is kinda bring |
| 00:19.45 | Cryect | You sure talked it up neotron! |
| 00:19.49 | NeoTron | dylanm: it replaces the quest text with italian |
| 00:19.51 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64909 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/AlarLib-3.0/AlarFrames-3.0.lua: AlarLib-3.0: |
| 00:19.57 | dylanm | Sweet God it does. |
| 00:20.02 | Pkekyo| | "It's like discussing whether or not it's a smart idea to put a PDW stock on a PSG1 for CQB. |
| 00:20.02 | Pkekyo| | Sure, it'll help but it's still the wrong thing for the wrong reason." |
| 00:20.04 | Pkekyo| | chuckles |
| 00:20.16 | dylanm | Wait how does it do that |
| 00:20.22 | JJSheets | carefully. |
| 00:20.31 | NeoTron | 1) you don't want to know, 2) look a bird! |
| 00:20.48 | JJSheets | ooh, a bird! |
| 00:20.53 | Cryect | oh shit its alar |
| 00:21.17 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64910 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/AlarLib-3.0/AlarFrames-3.0.lua: |
| 00:21.17 | CIA-9 | AlarLib-3.0: |
| 00:21.17 | CIA-9 | Bumped version number |
| 00:21.25 | Orionshock | it's one of those ugly hacks that should be done by someone good and only once :D |
| 00:21.40 | Groktar | omg, i'm playing the lady sacrolash hit sounds from the ptr |
| 00:21.53 | Groktar | this is practically pornographic |
| 00:22.18 | NeoTron | I remember when they changed the audio code - after that especially Vashj had some interesting audio |
| 00:22.21 | NeoTron | she's fricking loud |
| 00:22.36 | Groktar | is she? |
| 00:22.40 | Groktar | i haven't been there in forever |
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| 00:23.02 | NeoTron | lots of moaning going on |
| 00:23.09 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64911 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/AlarLib-3.0/AlarFrames-3.0.lua: AlarLib-3.0: |
| 00:23.10 | NeoTron | I think shahraz is similar |
| 00:23.16 | Xinhuan | that's what i said on vent once |
| 00:23.23 | Xinhuan | "listen to vashj, hitting on her causes her to moan! |
| 00:23.29 | NeoTron | so alar just commits stuff with the prefix to make it pass the precommit but doesn't enter messages.. |
| 00:23.32 | Xinhuan | then i imitated it a bit |
| 00:23.44 | Groktar | i don't see any moaning sounds for vashj |
| 00:23.51 | Xinhuan | oh he does give commit comments usually |
| 00:23.52 | Groktar | looks elsewhere |
| 00:23.56 | NeoTron | just the hit sounds |
| 00:24.01 | dylanm | No really how does it make things Italian does it just randomly insert speeches about the benefits of an all-pasta diet |
| 00:24.05 | Xinhuan | alar just isn't doing any today |
| 00:24.10 | JJSheets | lmao |
| 00:24.12 | NeoTron | dylanm: a very large table |
| 00:24.47 | dylanm | NeoTron: Where's that |
| 00:24.53 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64912 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/AlarLib-3.0/AlarFrames-3.0.lua: AlarLib-3.0: |
| 00:25.02 | NeoTron | google for QuestTranslator or so |
| 00:25.08 | dylanm | Man he's really phoning it in today. |
| 00:25.30 | JJSheets | what the hell is he changing in these commits? |
| 00:25.37 | Groktar | ah, i found her folder |
| 00:25.41 | Groktar | but i can't extract it |
| 00:25.42 | Groktar | weird |
| 00:25.48 | NeoTron | JJSheets: who knows |
| 00:25.51 | Megalon | dylann: hooking the Get*Text() for the questframes |
| 00:26.09 | Groktar | nm, got it |
| 00:26.29 | Groktar | lady sacrolash's sounds are better |
| 00:27.41 | JJSheets | I'm tempted to do an alar style commit... change one character in a comment, then comment sans message. :p |
| 00:28.41 | JJSheets | but then again, my inner idiot is non-existent. |
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| 00:29.23 | dylanm | It'd be pretty bad if he were reading all of this under another name. |
| 00:29.47 | dylanm | And I mean it's logged too, right? |
| 00:29.58 | JJSheets | yes, it is logged. :) |
| 00:30.29 | JJSheets | What is he gonna do? Alar: Im in ur svn, changing your files. |
| 00:30.42 | JJSheets | s/your/ur/ |
| 00:31.04 | Groktar | i can't wait to use this illidan playlist next time we clear to illidan |
| 00:33.20 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64913 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (15 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: initial commit of 2.4 |
| 00:33.42 | [SW]Dodge | +changes ^.^ |
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| 00:37.56 | Pkekyo| | http://www.home.no/craghack/1190642751324.jpg |
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| 00:53.22 | Pkekyo| | "Do not attempt to stop blades with hands or genitals" |
| 00:53.22 | Pkekyo| | gotta love chainsaw disclaimers! |
| 00:53.49 | JJSheets | gotta love the idiots who thought they could be stopped that way. |
| 00:54.44 | Pkekyo| | yeah...I die a bit inside when I realize someone actually tried that, and then filed a lawsuit towards the chainsaw retailer or producer |
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| 00:57.09 | [SW]Dodge | Noooo Arena Tournament ptr shutdown in 3 minutes |
| 00:57.20 | Cryect | JJSheets he is in your svn assimilating your addons |
| 00:57.29 | JJSheets | lol |
| 00:57.40 | Cryect | Hey maybe they are going to bring up the real PTR realm instead |
| 00:58.09 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07qt2 * r64914 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/AlarLib-3.0/ (AlarCore-3.0.lua AlarFrames-3.0.lua): |
| 00:58.09 | CIA-9 | AlarLib-3.0 |
| 00:58.09 | CIA-9 | More debug |
| 00:58.13 | doc^blup | never^^ |
| 00:58.20 | JJSheets | and there he is. :p |
| 00:58.47 | [SW]Dodge | i need arena ptr ._. |
| 00:58.50 | [SW]Dodge | need the mage |
| 00:58.50 | Cryect | zomg he had a commit note that time |
| 00:58.52 | [SW]Dodge | q.q |
| 00:58.58 | JJSheets | lol |
| 00:59.05 | JoshBorke | zomg! i'm beating a dead horse! |
| 00:59.22 | Cryect | I'm bored waiting on someone to come back so can unpause our game so screw me :-p |
| 00:59.27 | JJSheets | it ain't dead enough, so we gotsta kill it again. |
| 00:59.32 | JoshBorke | never, you're a guy |
| 00:59.45 | Cryect | so what were those whispers of love before! |
| 00:59.52 | JJSheets | lol |
| 00:59.54 | JoshBorke | just to get you all hot and bothered |
| 00:59.59 | Cryect | btw can I help you with that dead horse? |
| 01:00.05 | Cryect | I love a good horse beating |
| 01:00.13 | JoshBorke | no, but next time i ask you to come to kara, DO IT! |
| 01:00.16 | JoshBorke | :'( |
| 01:00.18 | Cryect | haha |
| 01:00.20 | JoshBorke | wiped 3 times on aran |
| 01:00.25 | Cryect | ouch |
| 01:00.28 | JoshBorke | no shit |
| 01:00.32 | Cryect | and how is that supposed to convince me :-p |
| 01:00.40 | JoshBorke | last time i ran kara with those guys we cleared in 2.5 hours |
| 01:01.02 | JoshBorke | with 0 aoe |
| 01:01.11 | JoshBorke | except for our paladin tank and retadin |
| 01:01.25 | Cryect | Shouldn't pick the one day I decide to clean my apt :-p |
| 01:01.30 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:01.46 | JoshBorke | we 8 manned through opera |
| 01:02.07 | JoshBorke | 9 manned curator then wiped 3 times on aran and called it |
| 01:02.14 | JoshBorke | it sucked monkey nuts |
| 01:02.18 | kebinusan | NeoTron: magicmarker adds mc'd players as targets |
| 01:02.29 | Cryect | well MC them next time |
| 01:02.39 | JoshBorke | kebinusan: that's so you target and kill them first |
| 01:02.47 | kebinusan | haha |
| 01:02.53 | Cryect | try doing Kel'Thuzad without CCIng MC'ed players |
| 01:02.58 | Cryect | well at lvl 60 that is |
| 01:04.05 | kebinusan | Added new mob Scorpio in zone Black Temple |
| 01:04.16 | kebinusan | dont want people killing him tho |
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| 01:12.35 | Killmore | omg, look our last roll for the bear mount http://invictuswow.com/pics/roll.jpg :P |
| 01:13.18 | JJSheets | lol |
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| 01:13.41 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:14.38 | Pkekyo| | lmfao Killmore |
| 01:14.51 | Pkekyo| | why'd Tuens get the bear? |
| 01:14.56 | CIA-9 | 03nirek * r64916 10KingOfTheJungle/Libs/: KingOfTheJungle: Fix externals, teach me to not read what was there :p |
| 01:16.10 | Killmore | Pkekyo|: its another random in background I think.. after |
| 01:17.29 | [SW]Dodge | that shows that random numbers are not really random... Oo |
| 01:17.46 | Pkekyo| | huh |
| 01:17.49 | Pkekyo| | interesting |
| 01:18.21 | Xinhuan | it shows you don't read patch notes ;p |
| 01:18.35 | Xinhuan | roll ties are automatically rerandomed on the server side for a random winner |
| 01:18.53 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
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| 01:23.48 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 01:23.48 | CIA-9 | - some Improvements |
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| 02:23.30 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 02:23.30 | CIA-9 | - fixed the BT Start link issue |
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| 02:25.17 | Arrowmaster | so the caster neck from RoS just droped for us, first one and everybody just passed it to me and im just going wtf? |
| 02:25.39 | Stanzilla | cool^^ |
| 02:25.46 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64923 10CoolDownButtons/core.lua: |
| 02:25.46 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 02:25.46 | CIA-9 | - fixed a bug in the pulse effect |
| 02:25.48 | durcyn | they obviously failed to look at 2.4 itemization |
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| 02:29.26 | Arrowmaster | theres no new caster necks are there |
| 02:32.11 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35290 < this one |
| 02:32.21 | Stanzilla | and this one http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34204 |
| 02:34.10 | durcyn | yes, but you'll want to have hit available on every slot for new junky items that don't have it elsewhere |
| 02:34.14 | durcyn | so the neck is solid |
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| 02:39.40 | testify | How do you see previous fights with assessment? |
| 02:40.18 | keiss | rclick on title and its there in the menu 'fight data' i think |
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| 02:41.06 | testify | tricky :-) |
| 02:41.07 | testify | Thanks |
| 02:42.01 | Xinhuan | what does that tracksw do |
| 02:42.35 | Xinhuan | and what does PoC stand for |
| 02:42.38 | keiss | switches tracking, uses gathermate data for it (ive got both herbing and mining on an alt) |
| 02:42.45 | keiss | proof of concept ;) |
| 02:42.51 | Xinhuan | how does it switch, and when? |
| 02:44.00 | keiss | how ... SetTracking(...) , when ... depending on options , basically when a node gets in 'range' and its 'infront' of the player (you can set the distances / degree of the arc / ...) |
| 02:44.21 | Xinhuan | settracking isn't protected? |
| 02:44.27 | keiss | no |
| 02:44.43 | Xinhuan | so i assume you are using findnearbynode |
| 02:44.49 | keiss | yes |
| 02:44.52 | Xinhuan | + what tracing u currently have? |
| 02:44.54 | Xinhuan | tracking |
| 02:45.20 | keiss | dunno what you mean now |
| 02:45.33 | Xinhuan | never mind, i'll just peak at the code |
| 02:47.07 | Xinhuan | code looks ok, but can be optimized a bit |
| 02:47.21 | Xinhuan | also need extra checks where the map is open and isn't at the current zone you are viewing |
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| 02:48.08 | Xinhuan | putting id = nil in the table initialization is pretty silly |
| 02:48.16 | Xinhuan | since a nil entry doesn't exist |
| 02:48.42 | keiss | its just to show what the field name is expected to be ;) |
| 02:48.46 | Xinhuan | "Find Herbs" and "Find Minerals" needs to be localized, u can you spell IDs ;p |
| 02:48.49 | Xinhuan | in 2.4 |
| 02:49.12 | Xinhuan | the rest doesn't look too bad |
| 02:49.23 | Xinhuan | also, don't use ipairs(), use for i = 1, #t do |
| 02:49.24 | Xinhuan | instead |
| 02:49.31 | Xinhuan | ipairs() is alot slower |
| 02:49.33 | keiss | yeah yeah ... thats all work in progress anyway , i just hacked something up and now iam cleaning it up / debugging while i gather ;) |
| 02:49.45 | kergoth | huh |
| 02:49.50 | kergoth | surprised its not protected |
| 02:50.11 | Xinhuan | also you need a OnDisable() |
| 02:50.14 | Xinhuan | to hide the frame |
| 02:50.51 | Xinhuan | when you perform |
| 02:50.52 | Xinhuan | Tracksw:ScheduleTimer(doSwitch, cd-GetTime(), ttype) |
| 02:50.53 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64924 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:50.53 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 02:50.53 | CIA-9 | - more improvements / code cleanup |
| 02:50.53 | CIA-9 | - removed deDE/frFR/esES locale (their only reason to exist was the need of translated trap/shock names and those are not needed anymore) |
| 02:50.53 | CIA-9 | - removed trap/shock translations from enUS and koKR translation |
| 02:51.05 | Xinhuan | be aware that the smallest time resolution that acetimer-3.0 provides is 0.1 sec |
| 02:51.19 | Xinhuan | i.e acetimer only checks for callbacks to call every 0.1 seconds |
| 02:51.31 | Xinhuan | if you need higher precision, use your own onupdate frame |
| 02:52.22 | Xinhuan | you should also cache local upvalue copies of math.abs and math.min and math.pi and math.atan2 |
| 02:52.25 | Xinhuan | as you use them a lot |
| 02:52.31 | Xinhuan | in your onupdate |
| 02:52.41 | Xinhuan | all these should give you a few extra fps |
| 02:53.02 | keiss | ok ;) |
| 02:53.05 | Xinhuan | in fact, adding "local pairs = pairs" at the top of your file helps too |
| 02:54.27 | Xinhuan | even GetTime() should be localed |
| 02:54.31 | Xinhuan | and only called once, not twice |
| 02:54.35 | doc^blup | ipairs isn't good? have to change it in my simulator then^^ |
| 02:54.40 | kergoth | so is there a quick way to toggle tracksw on and off? not using it yet, but thinking as a hunter, i may be questing with track humanoids or beasts, wouldnt want it switching when i have something else set explicitly, until i'm done |
| 02:55.01 | Xinhuan | its not that ipairs() isn't good, its that it is *slower* than a straight for loop |
| 02:55.16 | Xinhuan | because ipairs() is a function call to the iterator every loop |
| 02:55.25 | Xinhuan | if you just use |
| 02:55.29 | kergoth | i wouldnt avoid it unless you're in a critical path, just from a code cleanliness standpoint, b ut its author preference |
| 02:55.46 | Xinhuan | for k = 1, #t do local v = t[k] end |
| 02:55.46 | doc^blup | i use it like 10000*340 times in a row^^ |
| 02:55.46 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: you mean adding local copys of of funktions improves the performance? if yes i'll do that :P |
| 02:55.53 | Xinhuan | yes it does dodge |
| 02:55.59 | [SW]Dodge | nice .) |
| 02:56.08 | Xinhuan | adding local copies of functions in Blizzard_CombatLog reduced cpu usage by half |
| 02:56.25 | Xinhuan | it was using bit.band and bit.bor all over the place |
| 02:56.35 | Xinhuan | plus globals |
| 02:57.09 | keiss | kergoth: not atm, but you can set it to not work while not mounted if that helps ... ill add a 'standby' to it i guess |
| 02:57.24 | kergoth | thats what i was thinking, just a quick way to turn it on & off |
| 02:57.42 | Xinhuan | quickest way to turn on/off something, is to add a keybind |
| 02:57.49 | Xinhuan | you can copy the code i have in say, GatherHud |
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| 02:57.54 | Xinhuan | to toggle it on/off |
| 02:57.56 | Xinhuan | for the keybind |
| 02:58.16 | keiss | will do |
| 02:58.18 | Xinhuan | or in Routes/waypoints module |
| 02:58.18 | kergoth | good idea |
| 02:58.30 | kergoth | oh, does routes support tomtom waypoints yet? |
| 02:58.38 | Xinhuan | not yet |
| 02:58.47 | Xinhuan | clad and i have issues with tomtom's usage of astrolabe |
| 02:58.53 | kergoth | ah |
| 02:58.54 | keiss | one thing thou ... i only have a 60% mount on my gathering alt , so iam not sure if/how its usable on 280% |
| 02:58.59 | Xinhuan | astrolabe rapes 2x as much CPU usage than all of ace2 combined |
| 02:59.07 | Xinhuan | and when i'm using some 200 addons |
| 02:59.09 | Xinhuan | that's saying a lot |
| 02:59.12 | kergoth | yikes |
| 02:59.23 | NeoTron | like "it's not so good"? |
| 02:59.30 | Xinhuan | yes, this means tomtom is a horribly inefficient addon atm, because it uses astrolabe |
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| 02:59.44 | kergoth | shoudl i go back to carto_waypoints for now? :P |
| 03:00.08 | Xinhuan | astrolabe r51 is ok, because it only updates the map every 0.2 seconds |
| 03:00.09 | [SW]Dodge | is there a difference between ceil and math.ceil ? |
| 03:00.12 | Xinhuan | i.e 5 times a second |
| 03:00.15 | Xinhuan | dodge, no |
| 03:00.18 | [SW]Dodge | ok |
| 03:00.19 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r64925 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Bar.lua IB_Button.lua): InfiniBar-2.0 - Xinhuan is in ur code, optimizing ur functions. Also I Added Full Fade in when dragging. |
| 03:00.25 | Xinhuan | just local ceil = math.ceil |
| 03:00.42 | Xinhuan | but the latest copy of astrolabe switched to coroutines and somehow eats a lot of cpu |
| 03:00.48 | NeoTron | what is astrolabs anyway? |
| 03:00.58 | kergoth | wheres the astrolabe svn again? |
| 03:01.04 | kergoth | think i'm just using the tomtom embed atm |
| 03:01.14 | Xinhuan | i forgot the address myself |
| 03:01.22 | dylanm | Hold on I'll find it... |
| 03:01.43 | Xinhuan | http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/ |
| 03:01.44 | kebinusan | neotron, dunno if you saw my message earlier, but magic marker recognizes mc'd players as mobs |
| 03:01.52 | Xinhuan | then you add /trunk |
| 03:01.53 | Xinhuan | to that |
| 03:01.57 | dylanm | There we go. Wasn't loading for me so I couldn't confirm... |
| 03:01.58 | Xinhuan | or /branches/(some branch name) |
| 03:02.24 | NeoTron | really? |
| 03:02.34 | NeoTron | how recent version? |
| 03:02.53 | NeoTron | I figured "not UnitPlayerControlled(unit)" should filter that out |
| 03:03.13 | NeoTron | oh |
| 03:03.20 | kebinusan | yeah still getting it from mc'd players on the mother trash |
| 03:03.26 | NeoTron | I wonder |
| 03:03.41 | NeoTron | I am guessing the above returns false then because it's actually controlled by an npc atm |
| 03:03.47 | NeoTron | so I still need my UnitIsPlayer check |
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| 03:21.52 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64926 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:21.52 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 03:21.53 | CIA-9 | - improvements incoming |
| 03:24.30 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r64927 10ZOMGBuffs/ (8 files in 7 dirs): ZOMGBuffs: New options to define the click behaviour in the popup raid list for all spells and targeting. |
| 03:24.54 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r64928 10InfiniBar-2.0/ (IB_Bar.lua IB_Button.lua MacroSupport.lua): InfiniBar-2.0 - More optimizations. Also added support for hiding empty buttons completely. |
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| 03:25.45 | [SW]Dodge | ok.. its time to sleep... gn8 all ^^ |
| 03:25.57 | JJSheets | night |
| 03:27.21 | Zeksie | yeah, same here. had all intentions of going to sleep 3 hours ago.. |
| 03:29.08 | Zeksie | is away -( sleep )- at 03:29a -( P:On / L:On )- |
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| 03:31.39 | JJSheets | Seerah, ping |
| 03:31.47 | Seerah | pong |
| 03:31.56 | Seerah | was just catching up on your thread, actually :P |
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| 03:32.12 | JJSheets | Cool. Any bugs? :p |
| 03:32.23 | Seerah | haven't had a chance to test more |
| 03:32.24 | Seerah | sorry |
| 03:32.30 | Seerah | was going to log on soon, though |
| 03:32.38 | JJSheets | No problem, let me know. :) |
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| 03:32.48 | Seerah | :) |
| 03:32.51 | Seerah | will do |
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| 03:58.26 | CIA-9 | 03keiss 07PoC * r64929 10Tracksw/ (Bindings.xml core.lua locale/enUS.lua): |
| 03:58.26 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 03:58.26 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.26 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.26 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.26 | chiper | yowch. Hortus wields the banhammer. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5286965394 |
| 03:59.38 | chiper | seems kinda harsh for a simple question |
| 03:59.50 | Zyndrome | getting thrown to the welcome-page :( |
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| 04:01.22 | Seerah | jjsheets: is it supposed to require a reload of the UI when resetting a profile? |
| 04:01.46 | JJSheets | no... but I'll look into it. :) |
| 04:02.15 | Seerah | also, I placed the icon on the minimap, then reset the profile. Even after a reload, it was still attached to the minimap |
| 04:04.50 | JJSheets | odd. I'll look into that also... but it might not be my bug. :) |
| 04:05.22 | Seerah | also, jjsheets, a slash command would be nice to open rock config to infinibar, the way cowtip, etc are set up. With that, an option to hide the fubar button |
| 04:07.03 | Xinhuan | chiper, that rumour about epic mounts gets asked everyday ;p |
| 04:07.11 | chiper | ah |
| 04:08.33 | JJSheets | Seerah, bugs/requests noted. :) |
| 04:09.04 | Seerah | would you prefer I typed them out in your thread in the future? |
| 04:09.28 | JJSheets | not if I'm on IRC and responsive. :) |
| 04:10.54 | Seerah | okies :) |
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| 04:18.52 | Seerah | jjsheets: another request - a tooltip or description on what to do with the embedded macro box. with some guesswork and trial and error, I figured out to do #show <blah> to get an icon on the button (otherwise the macro works, but with no button texture) and to hit escape to exit the edit box for the macro |
| 04:19.34 | JJSheets | what was the macro that required a #show line? |
| 04:20.15 | Seerah | I mean, I put in a test macro of /target Seerah |
| 04:20.23 | Seerah | for button 1 on a bar group |
| 04:20.47 | Seerah | there was no button texture on the button (just looked like nothing was in that slot) but clicking on it targeted me |
| 04:20.51 | JJSheets | Ah. Perhaps I ought to return a question mark icon for macros that don't get a result. |
| 04:21.11 | Seerah | so, if I put #show Attack in the top line, I got the Attack button texture for the macro |
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| 04:21.43 | JJSheets | the #show and #showtooltip lines are blizzard standards. All that said, tooltip for macro editing is going in. |
| 04:21.53 | Seerah | right, and thank you :) |
| 04:22.11 | CIA-9 | 03keiss 07PoC * r64930 10Tracksw/ (core.lua locale/enUS.lua): |
| 04:22.11 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 04:22.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.12 | JJSheets | I think I'll also add an X button to it as well. |
| 04:23.48 | Seerah | I thought that by clicking the "edit" button again it would close it, but that just cleared the macro edit box |
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| 04:24.15 | kergoth | i hate leveling pets |
| 04:24.21 | JJSheets | hmm... I'll add a check to make sure the thing isn't already open too... |
| 04:24.56 | JJSheets | er... no... I'll have it save before opening... |
| 04:25.32 | JJSheets | Seerah, are you aware you can edit embedded macros by trying to drag off of them? |
| 04:26.17 | Seerah | I tried dragging it off the bar, but the bar was unlocked, and it just moved the bar |
| 04:26.33 | JJSheets | ah. yeah, it works when the bar is locked in place. |
| 04:26.38 | Seerah | locking the bar allows me to edit it |
| 04:26.41 | Seerah | that's annoying |
| 04:27.01 | JJSheets | How else would you drag a bar containing only embedded macros? |
| 04:27.29 | Seerah | I didn't have to hold the button down very long or move it very far for the box to pop up |
| 04:27.48 | JJSheets | It responds to a standard drag event. |
| 04:27.51 | Seerah | Many people lock their bars and bar contents to prevent them from dragging something off of the bar |
| 04:27.59 | Seerah | and I'm a clicker |
| 04:28.07 | Gngsk | :( |
| 04:28.25 | JJSheets | I can add a check to not edit when contents locked. |
| 04:28.42 | Seerah | so, if in the heat of things I clicked a macro button and accidentally held the button down a split second longer while moving to something else, the box would pop up |
| 04:28.55 | JJSheets | and that would suck. |
| 04:28.58 | Seerah | hubby was standing here and watched me do it and wanted to say that it would annoy him too :) |
| 04:29.07 | JJSheets | lol |
| 04:29.18 | Seerah | had to spit his toothpaste out to say it, too :) |
| 04:29.29 | JJSheets | poor bastid. |
| 04:29.39 | Seerah | lol |
| 04:30.06 | JJSheets | okay... do you think contents locked will be enough to prevent accidental macro editing mishaps? |
| 04:30.24 | Seerah | then he suggested having it be a ctrl-drag or something, but if someone had modified clicks in their macro, it would be the same thing. So contents locked would probably be good |
| 04:32.08 | Seerah | I like the idea, though, of quick access to edit your macros :) |
| 04:32.40 | JJSheets | this is why I made it work that way. that and I'm not ready to tackle multiline edit boxes in LibRockConfig just yet. :) |
| 04:33.19 | Seerah | hmm... Maybe a slash command to lock/unlock bars and/or buttons. So, if someone had their contents locked, they'd be able to quickly unlock, edit their macro, and relock, without having to navigate the config |
| 04:33.33 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:33.44 | Seerah | just a thought |
| 04:33.56 | JJSheets | I'm thinking /ib2 contentslock |
| 04:34.04 | exor674 | that sounds way too long to be "quick" |
| 04:34.15 | Seerah | right, it's called contents in the options |
| 04:34.24 | JJSheets | with a shortcut of /ib2 cl for you lazy bastids. |
| 04:34.57 | JJSheets | actually, since InfiniBar is obsolete and officially dead... /ib cl |
| 04:35.00 | Seerah | it's quicker than /rock -> button groups -> bar to edit -> buttons -> button number |
| 04:35.09 | chiper | hahaha "At nefarian, just before we were attempting him a silly mage decided to put up a portal saiyng "help me summon pls". So I did." |
| 04:35.25 | JJSheets | lol |
| 04:35.32 | exor674 | or another possibility would be blocking out ANY editing wbile in combat |
| 04:35.47 | Seerah | right - you can't update macros in combat anyway |
| 04:35.50 | chiper | There's this great thread on the EU forums full of "holy crap" moments from the game |
| 04:35.52 | JJSheets | Another good idea. Since doing so would fail anyway. |
| 04:35.52 | exor674 | I'm not sure how you are doing it, but I'm betting you can't change macros while in combat lockdown? |
| 04:36.01 | Seerah | I think that's a better idea |
| 04:36.16 | Fin | there's an addon that uses this method for targetting |
| 04:38.28 | JJSheets | time to test the new no editing in combat code... :) |
| 04:38.43 | Seerah | well, I hope I gave you enough work for the night again :) |
| 04:38.52 | Seerah | I'll test that stuff tomorrow - off to bed for me :) |
| 04:38.55 | JJSheets | Yup... and stalled my next level. :) |
| 04:39.01 | Seerah | lol |
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| 04:39.29 | JJSheets | but I appreciate it :) |
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| 04:42.26 | JJSheets | grrrr just wasted two minutes trying to figure out why it wouldn't edit... only to realize my contents are locked... :p |
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| 04:48.09 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r64931 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Button.lua: |
| 04:48.09 | CIA-9 | InfiniBar-2.0 - Embedded macros are no longer editable in Combat. Also, editing |
| 04:48.09 | CIA-9 | a macro while it is already open does not clear changes any more. Editing a new |
| 04:48.09 | CIA-9 | macro while editing another one now saves the open macro before switching to the |
| 04:48.09 | CIA-9 | new one. |
| 04:51.28 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64932 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: Add the UnitIsPlayer constraint back. |
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| 05:17.59 | retarded | ok fuck why does governments bring immegrants from ugly looking countries and it's users don't want us here? are cops part of government? is law made by the governments? |
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| 05:19.01 | ckknight | kergoth: again? |
| 05:19.07 | kergoth | he's spamming #vim too |
| 05:19.11 | kergoth | should probably report him to an ircop |
| 05:19.49 | ckknight | immigrants from ugly looking countries? those are the hard-working ones, the ones we want |
| 05:20.02 | JJSheets | heh |
| 05:20.29 | kergoth | <ricky> #fedora-devel as well. |
| 05:20.29 | kergoth | <stdin> and ##c++ |
| 05:20.36 | kergoth | he spammed those too that we know of so far |
| 05:20.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:20.53 | JJSheets | His name is appropriate. |
| 05:21.05 | kergoth | quite |
| 05:21.06 | JJSheets | funny, he was asking how to get unbanned a day or two ago. |
| 05:21.28 | JJSheets | And whether people would remember why he got banned. |
| 05:24.40 | WobWork | pft |
| 05:24.46 | WobWork | I say the US looks pretty ugly |
| 05:24.54 | WobWork | All jagged and stuff |
| 05:25.00 | JJSheets | lol |
| 05:25.18 | kergoth | wtf |
| 05:25.26 | kergoth | 'A German fighter ace has just learned that one of his 28 wartime kills was his favourite author. "If I had known it was Saint-Exupery, I would never have shot him down"' |
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| 05:26.05 | Civrock | Shoot or to be shot, that is the question. |
| 05:26.36 | JJSheets | I don't care who it is, if they're gunning for me, they deserve to die. :p |
| 05:26.40 | WobWork | That rascal, the Red Baron |
| 05:26.42 | WobWork | Curse you Red Baron! |
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| 05:28.24 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
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| 05:32.41 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5286962908&postId=53751671264&sid=1#23 <-typical mac zealots |
| 05:32.48 | Fisker- | it's possible to do "symlinks" with windows |
| 05:33.11 | Arrowmaster | only with vista |
| 05:33.34 | Arrowmaster | which nobody that knows what a symlink is would touch with a 10 foot pole |
| 05:33.45 | JJSheets | lol |
| 05:34.02 | Fisker- | no Arrowmaster |
| 05:34.26 | Arrowmaster | you cant do symlinks with xp, you can only do hardlinks |
| 05:36.30 | Fisker- | You can do what he want with XP |
| 05:36.33 | Fisker- | and 2k |
| 05:36.43 | Fisker- | i don't give a shit if it's called hard links, symlinks or fuckyou links |
| 05:36.51 | JJSheets | lollinks |
| 05:36.58 | Arrowmaster | do you know what a hardlink is? |
| 05:37.03 | Fisker- | no |
| 05:37.19 | MentalPower | you can do junction points with win2k & winxp |
| 05:37.26 | Fisker- | But i know it can do what the person in that thread wanted to achieve |
| 05:37.29 | MentalPower | which are pretty much symlinks |
| 05:38.07 | MentalPower | http://elsdoerfer.name/=ntfslink |
| 05:38.12 | Zhinjio | you can also simulate a directory symlink with a mount, but thats not the same thing, really |
| 05:39.34 | Fisker- | This is what makes Blizzard great. They cater to the people who don't have the state-of-the-art $6000 gaming machines, they cater to the rest of the consumer base. Every other newer MMO and newer RTS on the market is far more stringent in its requirements, and only works under windows. Bliz makes a product that a wider customer base can play. |
| 05:39.34 | MentalPower | serves the same purpose |
| 05:39.35 | Fisker- | hehe |
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| 05:39.52 | Fisker- | they cater to the people who have the already-outdated-piece-of-shit $6000 "macs" |
| 05:39.58 | kebinusan | hehe |
| 05:40.06 | kebinusan | age of conan looks very pretty |
| 05:41.12 | kebinusan | so pretty in fact I kind of am scared to think about how well it performs on my system with lots of people and spells |
| 05:41.32 | JJSheets | night ya'll |
| 05:42.46 | Fisker- | i'm burning |
| 05:42.51 | Fisker- | melts |
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| 05:50.04 | Arrowmaster | but yeah somebody else in that thread pointed out that hardlinks and junctions on ntfs arent even close to real symlinks, especially when tons of software doesnt work with them |
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| 06:27.37 | Orionshock | ping |
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| 06:31.20 | MentalPower | Orionshock: pong |
| 06:31.57 | Orionshock | :D thought my net D/C'ed on me :| |
| 06:32.22 | MentalPower | ping -t -w 250 google.com |
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| 06:32.24 | MentalPower | :) |
| 06:32.35 | Orionshock | :D |
| 06:32.37 | MentalPower | if yer on windows |
| 06:33.24 | Orionshock | ckknight: ... got a email update to a parrot issue on jira ... didn't say anything xpt some of the issue details got updated. So you working on getting pet-inc-damage added to the list? :D |
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| 06:38.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Orionshock: open the issue, go to changeh history and you will read that it's just ellipsis categorizing everything |
| 06:38.30 | Orionshock | :( |
| 06:38.31 | sag_ich_nicht | s/changeh/change/ |
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| 06:46.03 | Zhinjio | so ... I have two tables that I want to merge. Are there any builtin methods or just write one quick? |
| 06:46.36 | Orionshock | no, have to use own. Unless your adding em.. |
| 06:46.41 | Orionshock | could use meta table tricks... |
| 06:46.59 | Orionshock | but generally no built in suff. |
| 06:47.04 | Zhinjio | nods |
| 06:47.09 | Zhinjio | roger that. This should be a quick one anyway |
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| 06:56.31 | Zhinjio | syncing code makes me itch. |
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| 07:08.05 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: manually or with framework libs? |
| 07:08.31 | Zhinjio | I'm using librock |
| 07:08.48 | Zhinjio | but other than handling comms, they don't inherently handle any kind of syncing for you |
| 07:09.03 | Arrowmaster | most people here dont know much about rock since not many use it |
| 07:09.06 | Zhinjio | but I just had a minor revelation that hadn't occurred to me before |
| 07:09.15 | Zhinjio | nods. I know. |
| 07:10.06 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: Rock is alot like Ace2 but with different names mostly, and as far as been told with alot of the "fixes" that can't be done to ace2. |
| 07:10.07 | Zhinjio | most of the things I'm doing with it having analagous concepts in ace anyway |
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| 07:10.28 | Zhinjio | I am using dewdrop from ace2 as well |
| 07:10.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah its like ace2 but still its not ace2 so the specifics are different, concepts are the same somewhat |
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| 07:11.05 | Zhinjio | right. |
| 07:11.21 | Zhinjio | none of the frameworks provide "syncing" mechanisms though, so its sort of moot |
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| 07:12.02 | Zhinjio | the revelation, though, was pretty significant... |
| 07:12.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah you can send tables but i think the syncing of figuring out what data is the newest has always been in the hands of the addon dev |
| 07:12.18 | Arrowmaster | since everybody wants different stuff |
| 07:12.43 | Zhinjio | in this particular case, all requests to sync data will be "pull", which is to say, they will be initiated by a person who WANTS the new data, and it won't require acknowledgement from any other party, nor will it change their data. |
| 07:13.40 | Zhinjio | and at least in theory, it won't be possible for someone to get data that will corrupt existing data ... it will only add to existing data. |
| 07:13.55 | Zhinjio | so I think I've simplified my problem alot with that. |
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| 07:17.13 | jkeiser3 | I have a question that's probably dumb ... where are the GUI functions in the Ace libraries? Is that all non-core? Or is the Blizzard stuff generally good enough for most people? |
| 07:18.19 | jkeiser3 | I'm planning to make an addon that displays data in a table, and I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to need to specify most of that myself or if there are happy libs for that--the Blizz stuff looks like basic frames mostly |
| 07:18.21 | Arrowmaster | nothing in the ace2 core |
| 07:18.30 | Arrowmaster | but there is in ace3 |
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| 07:19.11 | vhaarr | jkeiser3: and there's Tablet-2.0 |
| 07:20.38 | jkeiser3 | oh, from the descriptions of stuff it looked like Tablet was about tooltip display rather than tabular data |
| 07:21.16 | nevcairiel | its tabular data in a tooltip kinda frame |
| 07:21.17 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 07:21.30 | jkeiser3 | Is Ace3 past the concept stage? I don't need production-quality stuff particularly, but I wouldn't mind if my addon generally worked when it was done :) |
| 07:22.18 | jkeiser3 | hmm, is there a listing of the Ace3 modules too? Or is that just "look for Ace*3*"? |
| 07:22.22 | nevcairiel | Ace3 is beta, so yeah, past concept |
| 07:22.29 | jkeiser3 | cool |
| 07:22.41 | Orionshock | svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3 |
| 07:22.46 | jkeiser3 | I must be looking at the wrong place for this stuff, I've been looking at wowace.com |
| 07:22.59 | jkeiser3 | on the wiki |
| 07:23.04 | jkeiser3 | oh nice, thanks |
| 07:23.14 | Orionshock | or, files.wowace.com/Ace3/Ace3.zip |
| 07:23.56 | nevcairiel | Ace3 lacks some documentation, we're working on that :) |
| 07:24.30 | Orionshock | Ace2 has alot of greek in it |
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| 07:25.09 | Anadale | Good morning |
| 07:25.12 | jkeiser3 | hey I'm happy to wade through it a bit, I'm just new to the whole thing. I'll have to play with Tablet too |
| 07:27.36 | jkeiser3 | ok so looks like I can create some pretty basic frames with neat things like tabs, using Ace3, and then I'd have to fill them in with my crap, hopefully using something happy like Tablet :) |
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| 07:32.09 | Orionshock | jkeiser3: hehe... |
| 07:33.48 | jkeiser3 | hrm, it seems like you have to back out entirely to the loading screen to get WOW to reload the TOC |
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| 07:37.47 | Jaxon | A reload UI will grab changes from the files but won't load in any new files. |
| 07:38.57 | Snago | Oh, I always thought you had to close WoW completly to make it load toc changes and new files |
| 07:39.33 | Jaxon | I may be wrong I don't find myself editing toc files tha tmuch |
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| 07:44.30 | Elkano | yeah, iirc toc and new files require restart, changes to lua and xml only reload |
| 07:45.18 | Arrowmaster | everybody says restart but yeah i think its just login screen |
| 07:45.35 | Arrowmaster | most people just restart to be safe |
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| 07:48.45 | CIA-9 | IHML: |
| 07:48.45 | CIA-9 | - Added Netherwing Ledge macro. |
| 07:51.21 | Orionshock | ah, so much automation in this game .... |
| 07:51.27 | Orionshock | do any of us still play it? |
| 07:52.22 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: I do :p |
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| 07:52.54 | Fisker- | i don't want to grind quest dialogue |
| 07:53.11 | Orionshock | grind quest dialouge? |
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| 07:53.39 | Fisker- | yeah pressing accept on a quest |
| 07:53.54 | Orionshock | for dailies? |
| 07:53.58 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 07:54.09 | Orionshock | or in general? |
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| 07:54.25 | Fisker- | you |
| 07:54.26 | Fisker- | know |
| 07:54.31 | Fisker- | it's what you call a J O K E |
| 07:54.31 | Zhinjio | if I'm passed an argument that could take two forms... is it possible to distinguish? for example |
| 07:54.35 | Fisker- | [08:51:29] <Orionshock> ah, so much automation in this game .... |
| 07:54.35 | Fisker- | [08:51:35] <Orionshock> do any of us still play it? |
| 07:54.50 | Zhinjio | my argumnet will be either: { "string", table, table } or { "string", table } |
| 07:55.24 | Orionshock | hehe, ya i get the joke... but on a semi-serious note i wrote the addon that skips gossip text on dailies, so ... :D |
| 07:55.39 | Zhinjio | is there like an .elements function that tells me how many atomic elements a table contains? |
| 07:55.47 | Zhinjio | or ... hmm |
| 07:55.52 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: type() |
| 07:55.54 | MentalPower | Zhinjio: #table |
| 07:56.06 | Zhinjio | is that... oh. |
| 07:56.07 | [Ammo] | if your table has only numeric (ordered) elements then #table |
| 07:56.25 | jkeiser3 | Hrm, I dug around looking at addons, and the first solution I found for making a table, the guy who designed the table has an XML GUI file with every single line in the table hardcoded |
| 07:56.27 | Zhinjio | the above example would get 1, 2 or 1, 2, 3 as indexes, right? |
| 07:56.38 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 07:56.39 | Zhinjio | thus, # would work. |
| 07:56.42 | Zhinjio | awesome. |
| 07:56.44 | Zhinjio | thats easy then. |
| 07:56.45 | NeoTron | Saw whatever you want about Fox, but it is pretyt cool of them to have full episodes of tv episodes online with minimal commercials |
| 07:56.45 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 07:56.46 | Fisker- | it's [Ammo] get him! |
| 07:56.54 | MentalPower | numeric, ordered,starting at 1, and compact (no holes) |
| 07:56.55 | NeoTron | has been watching the last two episodes of Terminator. |
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| 07:57.00 | MentalPower | then #table will work |
| 07:57.16 | Fisker- | knows how it ends |
| 07:57.23 | NeoTron | big badaboom |
| 07:57.31 | Fisker- | i mean the whole series |
| 07:57.38 | Fisker- | skynet happens and they have to fight it |
| 07:57.39 | Fisker- | :P |
| 07:57.49 | NeoTron | that is, in fact, what I meant with big badaboom |
| 07:57.54 | Grum | someone shoot Fisker- |
| 07:57.55 | Fisker- | no u :< |
| 07:58.05 | Orionshock | jkeiser3: yep that is one way to do it, most often the prefered. |
| 07:58.34 | jkeiser3 | really? |
| 07:58.47 | jkeiser3 | wow, that just offends my sensibilities |
| 07:58.50 | MentalPower | preferred is a matter of personal preference |
| 07:58.56 | Orionshock | depends on what exactly your doing. |
| 07:58.59 | MentalPower | Lua frames are just as valid |
| 07:59.16 | MentalPower | and IMO they're prettier |
| 07:59.23 | Orionshock | im inferring alot by your first example and what a "new author" would look at. |
| 07:59.54 | MentalPower | hates XML with a passion |
| 08:00.13 | jkeiser3 | I just picked a random addon that did a table (MyChatWho) and dug through the LUA/XML until I figured out what it did |
| 08:00.24 | jkeiser3 | That appears to be the only way to figure out how to write an addon :) |
| 08:00.25 | Orionshock | jkeiser3: not that you'd build the frame and table with XML, but that it would be statically build |
| 08:00.45 | Orionshock | hehe.... |
| 08:00.46 | jkeiser3 | yeah the bit that bothers me is that you would unroll the loop like that |
| 08:00.51 | cncfanatics | hates XML with more passion then MentalPower |
| 08:00.55 | Orionshock | www.wowwiki.com |
| 08:01.00 | jkeiser3 | Create TableLine1, then TableLine2, then TableLine3 |
| 08:01.01 | MentalPower | cncfanatics: o rly? |
| 08:01.14 | MentalPower | I created a lib to make Lua-frames easier (for me) |
| 08:01.16 | cncfanatics | you won't find a single xml file in any of my addons |
| 08:01.47 | Grum | MentalPower: the default creation calls are terribly simple already :D |
| 08:01.51 | Grum | what did you create? |
| 08:02.05 | cncfanatics | agree with Grum |
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| 08:02.21 | jkeiser3 | The LUA and XML are pretty much 1:1, I presume? i.e. you create the exact same objects in either, XML is just a static way to do it? |
| 08:02.29 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 08:02.38 | cncfanatics | I'd recommend doing it in lua personaly |
| 08:02.46 | cncfanatics | it looks cleaner and you can loop it |
| 08:02.47 | Grum | XML chucks everything in globals where with lua you can contain your stuff |
| 08:02.50 | jkeiser3 | I'm not unrolling the loop unless I have to |
| 08:02.50 | Grum | yup |
| 08:02.52 | jkeiser3 | yeah |
| 08:03.00 | jkeiser3 | LUA sounds fine to me |
| 08:03.04 | MentalPower | http://svn.norganna.org/libs/trunk/Constructor/ http://zip.norganna.org/libs/Constructor/ |
| 08:03.55 | MentalPower | like I said *for me* |
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| 08:04.12 | MentalPower | Sample Frame: http://svn.norganna.org/libs/trunk/Constructor/Test/FrameTemplate.lua |
| 08:04.13 | jkeiser3 | What is a good clean addon that makes stuff in LUA to look at then? wowwiki.com looks like a reasonable reference once I just want to look stuff up, but I've got to see some actual code |
| 08:04.33 | cncfanatics | jkeiser3, don't try mine :p |
| 08:04.42 | Grum | MentalPower: table instead of typing |
| 08:05.05 | MentalPower | yup |
| 08:05.10 | MentalPower | and no looping necessary |
| 08:05.18 | MentalPower | and integrated helper methods |
| 08:05.26 | MentalPower | and integrated scripts |
| 08:05.33 | Grum | jkeiser3: pick any addon, but for example WoWEquip has lots and LOTS of lua-frame creation (not all the neatest code but it has loads of it you can inspect) |
| 08:05.39 | Snago | Hmm, we seem to be missing someone. I guess I'll just fill in: |
| 08:05.42 | Grum | i am just curious MentalPower |
| 08:05.44 | Snago | Lua is not an acronym, it's a Portuguese word that means "Moon". |
| 08:05.46 | Grum | why did you do the f=... |
| 08:06.02 | cncfanatics | jkeiser3: if you're very couragous you can try FlexBar3 :p |
| 08:06.44 | MentalPower | Grum: two reasons, 1) simplicity, 2) backwards compat |
| 08:07.04 | Grum | 2 is a good reason :) |
| 08:07.17 | cncfanatics | MentalPower: table lbased definitions aren't my thing, makes me think too much of xml |
| 08:07.36 | MentalPower | like I said before *for me* |
| 08:07.45 | cncfanatics | yea, I know, just adding for me :p |
| 08:08.21 | jkeiser3 | all right, thanks, it looks like I'm mostly gonna be doing tables from scratch, which is fine. Maybe I'll try to make a happy generic widget. |
| 08:08.55 | Grum | are tables really that crudely build? line by line by line? |
| 08:09.04 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: did flexbar2 ever hit 'release'? |
| 08:09.09 | jkeiser3 | Dunno, the one I'm looking at seems to be |
| 08:09.16 | MentalPower | Grum: yes, tables are build line-by-line |
| 08:09.17 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: its pretty much release atm |
| 08:09.19 | jkeiser3 | I haven't seen anything for it so far, but I'm a noob |
| 08:09.27 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 08:09.32 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: its bugfree as far as I know |
| 08:10.14 | Orionshock | jkeiser3: if your crazy or masocistic, go look at Ace3GUI ... that'll really screw your head sideways wrt how frames work in lua ... :D |
| 08:10.45 | Grum | but then again, you could make a table widget for Ace3GUI ;D |
| 08:10.46 | jkeiser3 | I was thinking about building on that, are you implying I really shouldn't? |
| 08:10.57 | Grum | no, its just a bit advanced jkeiser3 |
| 08:11.17 | jkeiser3 | I figured it would be neat to have a table widget I could drop into a scrolling frame or a tab frame |
| 08:11.17 | cncfanatics | jkeiser3: I'd start with something basic if I was you; there should be examples on wowwiki |
| 08:11.49 | jkeiser3 | Can I drop any kind of crap onto an Ace3 frame, or does my stuff have to extend some kind of widget interface? |
| 08:12.05 | cncfanatics | you don't have to extend anything |
| 08:12.09 | cncfanatics | the frame just needs a type |
| 08:12.09 | jkeiser3 | ah cool |
| 08:12.21 | cncfanatics | which is Button, CheckButton, Frame and a few more I don't know by heart |
| 08:12.36 | jkeiser3 | so I can just dump my table onto any old frame, and later on when I want it to scroll or something, I can just dump it onto an Ace3 frame instead |
| 08:12.56 | cncfanatics | yea, thats called reanchoring |
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| 08:13.19 | cncfanatics | a frame can move wherever and whenever you want (there are exceptions, but leaving those aside) |
| 08:15.40 | jkeiser3 | So my basic plan is to make me a little table widget that allows me to set up n columns, specify the width of those columns, and then add rows to them, dumping any frames I want into each column--it just manages the creation of new lines, allows reordering, insertion, deletion, and passing column size through all rows |
| 08:16.05 | cncfanatics | thats rather advanced imho :p |
| 08:16.14 | jkeiser3 | eh, I want a table dammit :) |
| 08:16.20 | jkeiser3 | so a table I will build |
| 08:16.27 | cncfanatics | jkeiser3, table or frame ? |
| 08:16.32 | cncfanatics | there's a rather major difference between the two |
| 08:16.45 | jkeiser3 | By table, I am referring to something like an HTML <table> |
| 08:16.52 | cncfanatics | okay |
| 08:16.59 | cncfanatics | what I'd do is first make that work for a lua table |
| 08:17.18 | cncfanatics | and then build a "html table" out of that |
| 08:17.34 | jkeiser3 | yeah not far off |
| 08:18.44 | jkeiser3 | basically a list of lists (or a list of hashes), in Perl parlance |
| 08:18.54 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 08:18.57 | jkeiser3 | the table is a visual representation of the list |
| 08:19.13 | cncfanatics | your talking for yourself there :p |
| 08:19.36 | jkeiser3 | By table, I mean <table> again |
| 08:19.49 | cncfanatics | use the word "frame" or "GUI" , less confusing :) |
| 08:19.57 | jkeiser3 | :) |
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| 08:24.40 | Elkano | omg, it's math... http://www.abload.de/img/hornoxe.com_picdump24hn.jpg |
| 08:24.59 | cncfanatics | Elkano, I'm studying maths atm :p |
| 08:25.04 | cncfanatics | well, I'm suposed to at least |
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| 08:25.35 | Elkano | which grade and thematic? |
| 08:26.08 | cncfanatics | 12th grade, thematic is 3d geometry |
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| 08:29.24 | cncfanatics | yay, I finished updating WoW to 2.3.0 |
| 08:29.28 | cncfanatics | now the minor patches and I'm done |
| 08:31.14 | Fisker- | corrupts a file so the repairtool resets his version to WoW retail |
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| 08:31.59 | Orionshock | Fisker-: delete wow.exe |
| 08:32.08 | Orionshock | then repair & patch up :D |
| 08:32.54 | Elkano | cncfanatics, so vectors and stuff? |
| 08:33.13 | cncfanatics | Elkano: yea |
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| 08:36.47 | Elkano | isn't that hard, is it? as least in case you have some imagination |
| 08:36.56 | cncfanatics | it isn't |
| 08:37.03 | cncfanatics | I just have the most irritating teacher ever |
| 08:37.04 | cncfanatics | and he hates me :p |
| 08:37.13 | cncfanatics | as a result, I had 2/30 on a piss easy test |
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| 08:37.41 | [Ammo] | less wow more study :p |
| 08:38.37 | Elkano | just remember that the NULL vector or wathever it's called in English is orthogonal to anything, even Fisker-'s mom |
| 08:39.31 | cncfanatics | [Ammo]: I'm done studying, just need to make some exercises now |
| 08:39.41 | cncfanatics | which I'm gonna start with soon, I have some time left anyway |
| 08:39.46 | cncfanatics | got exam at 4pm and its 9:29am |
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| 08:43.31 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r64937 10/branches/CombatFilter/: CombatFilter: creating branch |
| 08:44.25 | Elkano | if you got questions, feel free to ask (doesn't imply answer will be given though ;) ) |
| 08:45.48 | Anadale | hey guys |
| 08:45.59 | Anadale | I have another performance-related question :) |
| 08:46.19 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r64938 10/branches/CombatFilter/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:46.19 | CIA-9 | CombatFilter: initial import |
| 08:46.19 | CIA-9 | - additional combatlog filters for additional output on any arbitrary chatframe / scrolling message frame |
| 08:46.19 | CIA-9 | - very early work in progress |
| 08:46.37 | Anadale | Suppose that I have N objects and every one of those objects need to do something on regular basis, let's say once in 0.3 second |
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| 08:47.14 | cncfanatics | Anadale: I'd personaly have a general loop loop through each of these objects every 0.3 secs and do it |
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| 08:47.30 | Gelo | Could anyone describe what rFilter does? |
| 08:47.32 | Anadale | Am I right that due to xpcall nature of AceEvent it'll be more efficient to hook an event once per addon and then distribute this event to objects through calls then hooking each object to event separately? |
| 08:47.33 | bongokazoo12 | hi everybody |
| 08:48.06 | bongokazoo12 | are warcraft mods very hard to create and if i am a complete beginner, how long do you think it would take me to learn how? |
| 08:48.21 | Snago | Hello bongokazoo12 |
| 08:48.25 | cncfanatics | bongokazoo12: that depends on how fast you can understand something |
| 08:48.41 | nevcairiel | bongokazoo12: do you have any knowledge in programming languages? |
| 08:48.42 | [Ammo] | step 1. can you program? |
| 08:48.54 | Anadale | cmcfanatics: thank you. Anyone else would like to comment? |
| 08:48.55 | [Ammo] | if so, learn lua |
| 08:48.56 | [Ammo] | ~pil |
| 08:48.57 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 08:49.02 | bongokazoo12 | i messed with c++ a long time ago, but not much |
| 08:49.10 | Snago | Take a look at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 08:49.17 | nevcairiel | well, best way would be to start learning lua |
| 08:49.18 | [Ammo] | and then check out addons for examples and wowwiki.com for the blizz API |
| 08:49.22 | cncfanatics | Snago: I'd recommend coding without framework for a start |
| 08:49.42 | Anadale | I think that we need a topic "Your first Ace3 Addon" :) |
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| 08:50.12 | bongokazoo12 | do i need to lean 5.0 before 5.1? |
| 08:50.23 | nevcairiel | no |
| 08:50.30 | nevcairiel | but there are not that many differences |
| 08:50.41 | bongokazoo12 | ok |
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| 08:51.00 | bongokazoo12 | thank you :-) |
| 08:51.09 | Roblibob | lua is quite simple to catch up on if you are messed around with c++ |
| 08:51.25 | bongokazoo12 | is it an easier language? |
| 08:51.31 | cncfanatics | yes, a lot |
| 08:51.52 | bongokazoo12 | dont i need to learn xml also, or just lua? |
| 08:51.58 | Anadale | Until you start playing with loadstring and dynamically created code l) |
| 08:52.03 | cncfanatics | you can do everything in lua bongokazoo12 |
| 08:52.21 | bongokazoo12 | even the graphical interfaces in-game? |
| 08:52.24 | bongokazoo12 | sweet |
| 08:55.39 | Roblibob | best way to learn i think would be soaking up all the info on wowwiki then take a simple addon and start messing around with it. All you should need is on wowwiki and http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1 |
| 08:56.45 | bongokazoo12 | great, thank you, starting now :) |
| 08:56.50 | bongokazoo12 | bye everyone |
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| 09:00.08 | Roblibob | glhf ;) |
| 09:04.11 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 07dev * r64939 10MiniMapster/ (16 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:04.11 | CIA-9 | MiniMapster: prep for more masks. |
| 09:04.11 | CIA-9 | masks curtsey of Nandini |
| 09:04.11 | Gelo | How can you find out if a buff/debuff belongs to yourself if it has no duration / time ? |
| 09:04.54 | Orionshock | Patch 2.4: "Every time someone asks "Where is Mankrik's Wife" in general chat in the barrens, the XP from the quest is acorrdingly reduced propotianate to the number of resonses and number of times asked" |
| 09:04.55 | Arrowmaster | as in auras? |
| 09:04.58 | Gelo | yeah |
| 09:05.09 | Arrowmaster | not sure but i know its possible |
| 09:05.53 | Orionshock | Gelo: if it has no duration / time, then it's not yours? |
| 09:06.09 | nevcairiel | yeah thats the only way to detect it |
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| 09:07.09 | Gelo | Orionshock, ofc it's "mine". It just doesn't have a duration ^^ |
| 09:07.50 | nevcairiel | you cant detect if a buff belongs to you if it has no duration (aura for example) |
| 09:07.51 | Orionshock | Gelo: the it's not yours >.> |
| 09:08.09 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: pally auras have no duration =P |
| 09:08.14 | Orionshock | true... |
| 09:08.20 | Gngsk | stealth |
| 09:08.23 | Gelo | they magically appear from nowhere :) |
| 09:08.27 | Gngsk | there's plenty of examples |
| 09:08.35 | nevcairiel | stealth is always your own.. |
| 09:08.58 | Gngsk | oh I see what he means |
| 09:09.08 | Gngsk | like the staff buff in the kael fight |
| 09:11.02 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: yes you can |
| 09:11.27 | Arrowmaster | using the default ui bloodpact shows up first and larger in the buffs of my party members |
| 09:12.23 | nevcairiel | maybe it returns 0 for the duration or so, and not nil |
| 09:12.46 | cncfanatics | grrr |
| 09:12.51 | Orionshock | Elkano: bout ebb, on my hunter it's putting track beasts and track humanoids under different categories... any light on this obscurity? |
| 09:12.59 | cncfanatics | is there a way to make windows media player support ogg files decently ? |
| 09:13.14 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: cccp? |
| 09:13.20 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: install the codec? oh and dont use windows media player =P |
| 09:13.22 | vithos | why use windows media player? :P |
| 09:13.30 | cncfanatics | someone suggest me a player then |
| 09:13.35 | cncfanatics | I want a lighweight & efficient player :p |
| 09:13.39 | Orionshock | winamp |
| 09:13.42 | vithos | media player classic for videos |
| 09:13.47 | cncfanatics | winamp is neither lightweight nor efficient |
| 09:13.49 | vithos | foobar2000 for music |
| 09:14.12 | Arrowmaster | agreed |
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| 09:14.47 | vithos | i use k-lite codec pack "corporate" for video stuff |
| 09:14.56 | vithos | has all the needed codecs and tools |
| 09:14.57 | Gelo | nevcairiel, seems to be the case. zero that is.. tried it before but must have written something strange. |
| 09:15.13 | vithos | "lots of stuff" preset in the installer |
| 09:15.19 | Arrowmaster | k-lite has too many codecs that you dont fucking need if you just want to decode and not encode |
| 09:15.45 | vithos | the mega pack, yes |
| 09:15.52 | Arrowmaster | all the k-lites |
| 09:15.52 | cncfanatics | the codec pack is nice |
| 09:15.55 | vithos | oh, not encode? there's presets for that. |
| 09:16.00 | cncfanatics | but wmp fails and can't read tags from ogg files |
| 09:16.09 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: try cccp |
| 09:16.14 | Snago | VLC is nice for video |
| 09:16.14 | cncfanatics | trying foobar atm |
| 09:16.22 | Gelo | 1# MPlayer/SMPLayer, #2 VLC or #3 MPC <3 |
| 09:16.32 | Arrowmaster | foobar2000 will read the tags fine |
| 09:16.53 | cncfanatics | yea, it is :) |
| 09:17.03 | Snago | wants to stab WMP for editing the files it opens |
| 09:17.36 | Arrowmaster | the new 0.9.5 ui in foobar2000 with the facets plugin is so nice |
| 09:17.41 | Elkano | Orionshock, what do you mean by "different categories"? |
| 09:18.05 | Orionshock | it's putting track human under the tech group, but track beasts under the std buffs group. |
| 09:18.19 | cncfanatics | foobar2000 doesn't track my keyboard shortcuts when its not focussed hmmm |
| 09:18.30 | Arrowmaster | check the keybinding settings |
| 09:18.31 | vithos | cncfanatics: does for me |
| 09:18.41 | cncfanatics | then I better config em |
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| 09:19.21 | Orionshock | .. meh, prolly glitched settings from my main (who is a druid) |
| 09:19.24 | Arrowmaster | yeah you can enable/disable each keybinding as being a global hotkey |
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| 09:20.23 | Elkano | Orionshock, check the settings, sounds strange |
| 09:21.11 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 07dev * r64940 10MiniMapster/MiniMapster.lua: MiniMapster: rough shape selection through /minimapster no border update yet |
| 09:21.17 | cncfanatics | works now :) yay for foobar |
| 09:21.21 | Funkeh` | sb_, melee stats :) |
| 09:21.28 | Orionshock | ya carried settings from druid + "Tracking" group i deleted :\ |
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| 09:28.22 | Gelo | Hmm.. Anyone knows if someone's made some own buff/debuff size enlarging for oUF? |
| 09:28.37 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 07dev * r64941 10MiniMapster/MiniMapster.lua: MiniMapster: lock toggle |
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| 09:30.32 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 072.4 * r64942 10CombatFilter/ (CombatFilter.lua FilterGUI.lua FilterRules.lua): CombatFilter: interim checkin because blizzy stole the PTR _AND_ the TTR now .. |
| 09:30.41 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.43 | cncfanatics | TTR down too ? |
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| 09:31.09 | nevcairiel | will probably come back later |
| 09:31.12 | nevcairiel | but right now its down |
| 09:31.32 | cncfanatics | hmmm, the install of windows messenger fails |
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| 09:33.12 | Tekkub | I need an addon name, bleh |
| 09:33.14 | Gelo | WIM is evil! |
| 09:33.26 | Orionshock | Gelo: WIM is god |
| 09:33.26 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: what type of addon? |
| 09:33.39 | Tekkub | char select addon panel --> 2.4 config panel |
| 09:33.49 | nevcairiel | oh |
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| 09:34.21 | Tekkub | yea that's what I thought :P |
| 09:34.28 | Gelo | caseap! lol |
| 09:34.45 | Orionshock | Samophlange |
| 09:35.16 | Gelo | http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7154/llkz0.jpg <3 |
| 09:35.26 | Gelo | little big atm though... |
| 09:35.46 | cncfanatics | Gelo: what actionbar addon is that N? |
| 09:35.54 | Gelo | actionbar? |
| 09:36.00 | Gelo | you mean unitframe? |
| 09:36.51 | cncfanatics | no, action buttons |
| 09:36.52 | Gelo | Why it's the lovely oUF! |
| 09:37.03 | cncfanatics | those buff & mount buttons |
| 09:37.05 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: those are the buffs of the unit frame |
| 09:37.06 | Gelo | there are no buttons. that's buffs |
| 09:37.07 | Tekkub | Samophlange is tempting... |
| 09:37.12 | cncfanatics | :o, weird |
| 09:37.14 | Orionshock | :D |
| 09:37.26 | Orionshock | name the zone the quest comes out of :) |
| 09:37.45 | Orionshock | w/o looking it up on wowhead :P |
| 09:37.50 | Gelo | Barrens? |
| 09:38.03 | Gelo | or what was the question? |
| 09:38.04 | cncfanatics | Samophlange is in ratchet |
| 09:38.08 | Orionshock | ^^ |
| 09:38.31 | nevcairiel | stupid horde zones |
| 09:38.38 | cncfanatics | <3 horde |
| 09:38.40 | cncfanatics | </3 alliance |
| 09:38.52 | Gelo | I'm horde, that's why unit frames says 52A |
| 09:39.21 | cncfanatics | horde just wins |
| 09:39.30 | cncfanatics | and now I'm actualy going to start studying already |
| 09:43.54 | Gelo | Feels weird having to work 16:00 to 23:00... I'm so used to being able play some WoW in the evening with my friends :( |
| 09:44.28 | cncfanatics | Gelo: how come you have to work ? |
| 09:44.37 | Gelo | lol |
| 09:44.53 | Gelo | sorry, forgot wow players don't work ;) |
| 09:45.11 | cncfanatics | I'm studying atm -.- |
| 09:45.22 | cncfanatics | just wondering why you work 16:00->23:00, just weird times |
| 09:45.34 | Gelo | I work night this week at McDonalds -.- |
| 09:45.41 | cncfanatics | that sucks |
| 09:45.41 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 09:45.55 | nevcairiel | working at McD is such a shit job |
| 09:45.59 | cncfanatics | I'd rather be bankrupt then work at McD tbh |
| 09:46.18 | Orionshock | try cust/tech support...it's worse |
| 09:46.26 | Gelo | It pays pretty well. |
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| 09:47.12 | Anadale | Guys, what "safecall" do? |
| 09:47.20 | cncfanatics | not error |
| 09:47.51 | Anadale | you mean "run something and f*** the errors"? |
| 09:48.00 | cncfanatics | thats what pcall does |
| 09:48.12 | cncfanatics | safecall is a custom function made by the addon you're reading to not error |
| 09:48.25 | Anadale | ok, thank you |
| 09:48.26 | Zhinjio | hmm, SendCommMessage appears to be failing when sending a table. |
| 09:48.30 | Zhinjio | grumbles. |
| 09:48.40 | cncfanatics | Zhinjio: if it could send tables it'd be SO much easyer |
| 09:49.04 | Zhinjio | um, its supposed to be able to. |
| 09:49.08 | Zhinjio | er... *reads* |
| 09:49.09 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: you gota serialize it |
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| 09:50.05 | Orionshock | SAM() won't send tables, tho Rock's Comms should auto-magically serialize it |
| 09:50.38 | Gelo | I'm reading something I just don't understand.. lol |
| 09:50.39 | Zhinjio | I am using Rock's Comms |
| 09:50.58 | Zhinjio | and its not even returning an error |
| 09:51.06 | Zhinjio | I'm just not receiving anything on the other end. |
| 09:51.12 | Zhinjio | I better check all my parameters... |
| 09:51.33 | Zhinjio | this is whats being executed: SKG:SendCommMessage( "WHISPER", sender, "SYNSL", { "Players", db.Players } ) |
| 09:51.37 | cncfanatics | Gelo: if you don't understand some code start over imho |
| 09:51.52 | Gelo | Well it's not mine to begin with ;) |
| 09:51.56 | Gelo | It's oUF |
| 09:52.55 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: try SCM( "SYNSL", "Players", db.Players ) |
| 09:53.52 | Gelo | I thought I'd count the number of own buffs and pad the rest but I'm just gonna center buffs in a fixed location instead... |
| 09:54.10 | Zhinjio | still need to specify a target channel and player (since its a whisper) |
| 09:54.21 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.25 | Orionshock | *idea |
| 09:54.42 | Orionshock | don't encapsulate "Player" and db.Players in a table, just send it naturaly |
| 09:55.35 | Zhinjio | well, ok ... as a test... hang on. |
| 09:56.04 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64943 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 09:56.04 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 09:56.04 | CIA-9 | - midsummer tabards added |
| 09:56.13 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64944 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 09:56.13 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 09:56.13 | CIA-9 | - midsummer festival updated |
| 09:56.45 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64945 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:56.45 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:56.45 | CIA-9 | - Lord Ahune added to the menu |
| 09:56.59 | Zhinjio | nope, that didn't get sent either. |
| 09:57.07 | Zhinjio | ckknight: ping |
| 09:57.18 | Zhinjio | (wakey wakey, sunshine. |
| 09:57.25 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 09:57.28 | Zhinjio | that never works. |
| 09:57.33 | Orionshock | what's the receive func look like? |
| 09:57.48 | Zhinjio | just a stub right now with a debug message indicating I got it |
| 09:58.17 | Orionshock | ...arg checks? |
| 09:58.29 | Zhinjio | one sec, I'll pastey... |
| 09:59.28 | Zhinjio | http://www.pastey.net/84009 |
| 09:59.52 | Zhinjio | the Debug message is never fired on the receiver's side |
| 10:00.52 | Orionshock | i take it that all the other comms funcs are structured the same? |
| 10:01.12 | Zhinjio | yup, and are working. |
| 10:01.23 | Zhinjio | I just put in another test to just send a string to see if that worked... |
| 10:01.25 | Zhinjio | testing now |
| 10:01.53 | Zhinjio | that worked. |
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| 10:02.02 | Zhinjio | so sending anything but a string is not working. |
| 10:02.15 | Orionshock | humm...odd |
| 10:02.26 | Orionshock | use a different comms lib? |
| 10:02.34 | Zhinjio | maybe my format for sending a structure is wrong somehow... reading the docs again |
| 10:02.35 | Snago | Then serialize it with AceSerializer-3.0 and send that string ;) |
| 10:03.04 | Orionshock | trust me converting over and using ace3comms and ace3serializer is not going to be hard |
| 10:04.28 | Zhinjio | I don't currently have any intentions of converting to ace3. |
| 10:05.31 | Orionshock | lol |
| 10:06.24 | nevcairiel | You can use any Ace3 libraries without converting your addon to be fully ace3 .. just use it =P |
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| 10:06.26 | Orionshock | trust me, wouldn't take a whole lot, got to remember all the same people that contributed to ace2, they think a like ... but different >.> |
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| 10:06.56 | Snago | one of its strenghts is that it don't have to be all or nothing, you can easily use only comm and serializer from ace3 and use rock or whatever for the rest |
| 10:07.17 | cncfanatics | or just not use fancy frameworks at all except for GUI's |
| 10:07.26 | Orionshock | ^^ did that myself :D |
| 10:07.30 | Gelo | http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2191/86429738vh9.jpg /flex |
| 10:08.02 | Gelo | finally got it working like i wanted it :) |
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| 10:18.28 | Zhinjio | I guess thats a good a stopping point as any. G'night, folks. |
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| 10:24.24 | vithos | Gelo: slick |
| 10:24.57 | Gelo | gotta test it with 10+ buffs |
| 10:25.02 | Gelo | gotta love druids for that |
| 10:26.14 | clad|office | Xinhuan: have you tried the optimizations branch |
| 10:26.19 | clad|office | TomTom isn't using trunk at the moment |
| 10:26.22 | clad|office | its using -r51 |
| 10:26.31 | clad|office | and will be moving to trunk, when the optimizations branch gets merged in |
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| 10:30.17 | Snago | US isn't getting 2.4 today, right? |
| 10:30.32 | cncfanatics | no |
| 10:31.03 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I just found a totaly lovely desktop background |
| 10:32.09 | Tigerdyr | " US isn't getting 2.4 today, right?" "No" .. does that then mean they are getting it, or does it mean they are not getting it, or that they are not not getting it unless it is a full moon? |
| 10:32.15 | Gelo | cncfanatics, post it :) |
| 10:32.44 | cncfanatics | Gelo: http://fantasyartdesign.com/free-wallpapers/wallpaper.php?u_i=1&i_i=5&s=0&np=60&srt= |
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| 10:33.01 | Gelo | epic :) |
| 10:33.12 | cncfanatics | http://fantasyartdesign.com/free-wallpapers/wallpaper.php?u_i=1&i_i=3&s=0&np=60&srt= is also nice, but I prefer the first one |
| 10:35.34 | Gelo | Finished: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7418/14152678di2.jpg |
| 10:35.55 | Gelo | Just gotta change the border on oUFs debuffs... it's so bad :/ |
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| 10:36.38 | xemacs | hey can someone help me writing an addon? |
| 10:36.49 | cncfanatics | Gelo: the only thing about them is that text on top I have to edit out |
| 10:37.11 | Gelo | yeah, can't have text on backgrounds |
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| 10:37.29 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning |
| 10:37.37 | Gelo | 'monrin |
| 10:37.40 | Gelo | 'morning* |
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| 10:40.11 | xemacs | could need some help with ace :p |
| 10:40.41 | Snago | ~asktoask |
| 10:40.41 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 10:41.02 | xemacs | i got an addon (named holofriends) it allows you to have a treeview-friendlist |
| 10:41.20 | xemacs | unfortunately its not compatible with the current release of wow :/ |
| 10:42.01 | cncfanatics | xemacs: what error do you get ? |
| 10:42.02 | xemacs | its not an ace addon, so i thought it would be an option to rewrite the addon (to mace it compatible to the current wow release) :o |
| 10:42.15 | cncfanatics | ace or not ace has totaly nothing to do with compatibility |
| 10:42.19 | xemacs | the display is completely fucked up ;) |
| 10:42.31 | xemacs | it hasnt been updated since 7 months |
| 10:42.43 | xemacs | if you want, i can make a screenshot :o |
| 10:42.45 | cncfanatics | link it |
| 10:42.54 | cncfanatics | both the addon link and the screenshot |
| 10:43.10 | Snago | I have a lot of addons last updated > 7 months ago :P |
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| 10:44.04 | xemacs | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/5065/ <- addon link + screenshot what it should look like |
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| 10:46.26 | xemacs | http://stuff.stress-kind.de/files/Aufzeichnen.JPG <- what it looks like |
| 10:46.30 | xemacs | :/ |
| 10:48.53 | cncfanatics | oh, is it just that N? |
| 10:49.06 | Snago | If it's another addon making your social frame semi transparent, try disabling it |
| 10:49.07 | CIA-9 | 03Firik * r64946 10BunchOfBars/Dispel/Dispel.lua: BunchOfBars: It is now possible to specify at how many debuffs the Dispell module should show. |
| 10:49.17 | cncfanatics | thats just some positioning and relayouting and disabling other friends lsit addons |
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| 10:50.02 | xemacs | (11:48:41) (cncfanatics) oh, is it just that N? <- "that addon" ? |
| 10:50.17 | cncfanatics | xemacs: I'm running that addon myself now, gimme a sec |
| 10:50.26 | xemacs | okay :) |
| 10:51.36 | Gelo | http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7127/94882707pp8.jpg <- looks like that for me |
| 10:51.55 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 072.4 * r64947 10Links/Links/ (Libs/ Links.lua embeds.xml): Links: use custom hooking so that SetItemRef is replaced at load time. Remove AceHook-3.0 embed. |
| 10:52.07 | cncfanatics | xemacs: looks fine for me too |
| 10:52.11 | xemacs | hmm maybe a problem with skinner :o |
| 10:52.29 | Gelo | I've never liked skinner. |
| 10:52.44 | Arrowmaster | always assume the problem is with skinner first |
| 10:52.56 | Arrowmaster | because it mostlikely is |
| 10:53.26 | Arrowmaster | another addon/author that should be voted off the svn |
| 10:53.52 | xemacs | hmm :( |
| 10:54.05 | Arrowmaster | ok enough ranting, going to bed |
| 10:54.27 | Gelo | I must thank you for posting that addon,, helps keeping track :) |
| 10:54.32 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 10:54.33 | cncfanatics | using it too now lol |
| 10:55.35 | xemacs | anyone of you wants to rewrite it? :D could need a sub-groups feature ;) |
| 10:55.57 | Gelo | seems like the little "tooltip" is a bit off while dragging |
| 10:56.27 | Gelo | don't try scrolling and dragging :P |
| 10:56.30 | Gelo | lol |
| 10:57.13 | xemacs | yep .. needs a lot of bugfixes :| |
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| 10:57.28 | cncfanatics | I might pick that up if I feel like it |
| 10:57.29 | cncfanatics | but it works |
| 10:58.26 | Gelo | as long as it can remember the right category it should be fine.. not very often i add friends :) |
| 10:58.39 | xemacs | some kind of sorting options would be nice too |
| 10:58.59 | Gelo | like? |
| 10:59.06 | cncfanatics | class I supose |
| 10:59.07 | cncfanatics | or level |
| 10:59.13 | [SW]Dodge | when is US maintenance? |
| 10:59.22 | cncfanatics | tuesday, as always |
| 10:59.52 | cncfanatics | brb, I need to shave |
| 11:00.04 | xemacs | (11:58:55) (cncfanatics) class I supose <- and status |
| 11:00.10 | Gelo | it's nice that it actually can have more than 50 friends |
| 11:00.26 | Gelo | For me, "show offline friends" is all I need :) |
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| 11:03.22 | xemacs | yep but if you implement something like "order by name" "order by level" it should be easy to implement a "order by status" thing :) |
| 11:03.22 | CIA-9 | 03sirow * r64948 10LibAvion-2.0/LibAvion-2.0.lua: |
| 11:03.22 | CIA-9 | LibAvion-2.0: |
| 11:03.22 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.40 | xemacs | Gelo remember you can also be AFK or DND :) |
| 11:04.39 | Gelo | well it says [mageicon] Xxxxx - Shattrath City <AFK> |
| 11:05.12 | xemacs | yea |
| 11:05.51 | xemacs | so why dont have the ability to order by that criterion |
| 11:06.52 | Gelo | expand all, collapse all and "disable groups and show only online" wouldn't be bad.. too bad i'm not a good coder ;) |
| 11:07.38 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 072.4 * r64949 10Links/Links/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): Links: (2.4 branch) put back AceHook embeds. |
| 11:08.28 | xemacs | unfortunately i never coded LUA :) |
| 11:08.28 | Gelo | the checkmark on one friend is bugged |
| 11:10.03 | Gelo | should had hidden categories when there's no one online in them when you uncheck the "show offline friends" box too |
| 11:10.48 | Gelo | easy to come up with ideas, harder to implement them. |
| 11:11.09 | cncfanatics | when FB3 is ready I'll prolly code on something like that |
| 11:11.14 | cncfanatics | I'm not in the mood atm though, exams |
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| 11:12.03 | lhunath | !seen lejordet |
| 11:12.25 | Gelo | too bad it now says "Sunbeam - Unknown" and he's online. |
| 11:12.32 | lhunath | does he go under a different name or just not show up on IRC? |
| 11:14.50 | Orionshock | ~seen iejordet |
| 11:14.53 | purl | i haven't seen 'iejordet', Orionshock |
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| 11:17.27 | Trell_ | is the latest version of WAU always located at http://www.wowace.com/wau/Install_WAU.zip? |
| 11:18.08 | Trell_ | or is there a 'newer' version |
| 11:18.16 | cncfanatics | don't use WAU tbh :p |
| 11:18.25 | Trell_ | pfft |
| 11:18.29 | Trell_ | i like the one click update |
| 11:18.32 | Trell_ | since all of my addons are ace |
| 11:18.38 | Trell_ | anything else that does something simliar |
| 11:19.28 | Orionshock | Trell_: WUU, but it's btchie |
| 11:19.32 | [SW]Dodge | ~jwu |
| 11:19.33 | purl | JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917 |
| 11:19.34 | Orionshock | got to setup each one manualy |
| 11:21.03 | Trell_ | mmm jwu looks nice |
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| 11:23.14 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.17 | cncfanatics | found a way to not hide the petbar |
| 11:23.21 | Wobin | how much is a normal mount/skill? |
| 11:23.40 | Trell_ | 40g? |
| 11:24.15 | Trell_ | actually my mage paid 99 |
| 11:24.22 | lhunath | Trell_: http://netherpanel.lyndir.com |
| 11:24.30 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:24.30 | Trell_ | yeah i've just seen that too |
| 11:24.38 | Wobin | should I grind 12k of exodar rep |
| 11:24.39 | lhunath | I'm working on it still though. |
| 11:24.43 | Wobin | and get an elephant? =) |
| 11:24.44 | Trell_ | but it looks far too complicated for me, whats the issue of using WAU? |
| 11:24.48 | Trell_ | it's perfect for me tbh |
| 11:24.53 | Trell_ | one click and im done |
| 11:24.54 | lhunath | WAU is no longer maintained. |
| 11:25.08 | lhunath | maintainer abandoned it (syl) |
| 11:25.14 | Trell_ | maintaned or not, it still works, right? |
| 11:25.20 | Trell_ | at least, I've never had any major problems with it |
| 11:25.39 | lhunath | Trell_: NP has a one-click update button. |
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| 11:26.00 | lhunath | Trell_: I would think so, yes. |
| 11:26.11 | lhunath | but I wouldn't expect it to keep working. |
| 11:26.22 | Trell_ | well, when it goes wrong I'll make the switch ;) |
| 11:26.38 | Gelo | http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1829/ieatsyoudf5.jpg <- best wall ever! lol |
| 11:26.39 | lhunath | indubtably |
| 11:28.25 | [SW]Dodge | someone here who knows alot about FrameStrata and FrameLevel? i have 4 Franes on Strata "MEDIUM" but are shown in wrong "order" is there a way to tell the frames which one shoulde be the lowest and whoc one the highest? |
| 11:28.49 | [SW]Dodge | CoolDownButtonAnchor:SetFrameLevel(CoolDownButtonAnchor:GetFrameLevel()+10) to set the Frame on top wont work :( |
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| 11:34.34 | [SW]Dodge | yay got it ^.^ |
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| 11:50.51 | Roblibob | patch next week possibly: http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9413/kutta24qk8.jpg |
| 11:52.20 | Trell_ | lol |
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| 11:53.08 | Trell_ | ah nvm my pitbull q |
| 11:53.16 | Trell_ | it was staring me in the face the whole time >_< |
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| 11:54.32 | lawlinternet | fuck you internet, fuck you |
| 11:57.21 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r64953 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: |
| 11:57.21 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceConfigDialog: |
| 11:57.21 | CIA-9 | - use a width parameter (if present) for the description widget |
| 12:01.14 | Trell_ | bleh, is there any reason why, after updating to the latest ClassTimer, the icon has gone from my fubar (just has the text ClassTimer there now) and all functionality from it seems to have dissapeared, in conjunction with it dissapearing from the Rock Config window too. |
| 12:02.45 | [SW]Dodge | soemone knwos a tool to compare 2 files? i want to compare my core lua from trunk and branches |
| 12:03.44 | dodga | [SW]Dodge: svn diff? :> |
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| 12:05.29 | lhunath | "diff" compares two files |
| 12:05.37 | lhunath | svn diff compares two revisions of one file |
| 12:06.50 | dodga | lhunath: AFAIK svn diff takes URLs, so you may as well compare different revisions in different paths |
| 12:07.04 | dodga | But never really used it for anything else than "svn diff" in my working copy |
| 12:07.28 | [SW]Dodge | ty i'm now using TortoiseMerge :) |
| 12:07.57 | lhunath | right; 3. diff OLD-URL[@OLDREV] NEW-URL[@NEWREV] |
| 12:08.15 | lhunath | oh; you're a windows person. |
| 12:08.36 | Trell_ | anywhere I can find out more info on RuinBossTactics - there doesn't seem to be a wiki page for it |
| 12:09.04 | [SW]Dodge | yeah. (and my linux box is currently out of order, need new Mainboard/Cpu/powersupply) |
| 12:09.44 | [SW]Dodge | meh, need third monitor ._. |
| 12:10.07 | lhunath | I personally can't stand windows without Cygwin. graphical interfaces are slow you down so much. |
| 12:10.13 | lhunath | s/are // |
| 12:10.25 | lhunath | er. thanks, purl. |
| 12:11.09 | lhunath | Trell_: google.com/search?q=RuinBossTactics would know |
| 12:11.18 | lhunath | usually wowinterface & wowace are your best bet |
| 12:11.30 | lhunath | if neither of those have anything, UTSL |
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| 12:13.31 | Trell_ | i did that lhunath |
| 12:13.49 | dodga | [SW]Dodge: vmware :> |
| 12:14.23 | [SW]Dodge | dodga: lol^^ |
| 12:14.48 | [SW]Dodge | it will take to much performance :) |
| 12:14.56 | dodga | You're just doing svn diff :P |
| 12:15.05 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.06 | [SW]Dodge | 50% cpu and 50% ram is enough |
| 12:15.21 | dodga | I like having my playground :> |
| 12:15.30 | [SW]Dodge | yeah i'm just doing diff so why should i use vmware xD |
| 12:15.34 | dodga | Performance is only a problem because software sucks :> |
| 12:15.48 | dodga | [SW]Dodge: So you wouldn't need to use TortoiseMerge! :> |
| 12:15.51 | [SW]Dodge | i can use 2 wxLua and tortoise merge :D |
| 12:16.01 | [SW]Dodge | i like tortoise merge ^_^ |
| 12:18.14 | Madrak | boooo, weakly maintenance. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 12:18.32 | Madrak | *weekly, but I like the pun :) |
| 12:21.48 | chexsum_ | windows diff tools are lame |
| 12:22.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i like it when people claim that you can't hardlink directories |
| 12:22.37 | chexsum_ | cygwin probably has something though |
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| 12:23.05 | jy | This year's Blizzard Worldwide Invitational will take place in Paris, France, at the Porte de Versailles Exposition Centre on the 28th and 29th of June. |
| 12:23.13 | jy | yeah i work 2 station away from there |
| 12:23.15 | jy | :> |
| 12:23.23 | chexsum_ | ive hardlinked ptr addons folder to wow addons :P |
| 12:23.54 | chexsum_ | well its a junction in windows vista :\ |
| 12:24.13 | sag_ich_nicht | look no |
| 12:24.21 | sag_ich_nicht | in vista there are symlinks AND junctions |
| 12:24.28 | sag_ich_nicht | which one of the two did you use? |
| 12:24.29 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.48 | chexsum_ | i couldnt get the syntax right for a symlink so grabbed the junction program |
| 12:24.55 | chexsum_ | junctions sound better imo |
| 12:25.13 | chexsum_ | it forces me to notice the link |
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| 12:25.50 | chexsum_ | probbaly isnt posix |
| 12:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | nope isn't |
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| 12:26.56 | chexsum_ | im pretty sure i cant just delete wow addons without releasing the junction or something - i tried it earlier and it told me i couldnt :P |
| 12:27.09 | chexsum_ | thats pretty handy |
| 12:29.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Cogent has decided not to exchange traffic directly with TeliaSoneras AS 1299 or indirectly with AS 1299 through a third-party provider. As a result, Cogent has partitioned the Internet and disrupted the flow of traffic between Cogent and TeliaSonera customers. While this has a negative impact on some users of the Internet, this effect is the result of Cogents decision and is unfortunately beyond TeliaSoneras control. |
| 12:29.25 | sag_ich_nicht | lol BGP |
| 12:30.21 | Fisker- | PWNT |
| 12:31.22 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/732-Cogent-AS174-und-TeliaSonera-AS1299-de-peeren-sich.html LOL |
| 12:33.27 | jy | ^^ |
| 12:33.53 | CIA-9 | 03sirow * r64954 10LibAvion-2.0/LibAvion-2.0.lua: |
| 12:33.53 | CIA-9 | LibAvion-2.0: |
| 12:33.53 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.53 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.11 | Snago | sag_ich_nicht: Cliff notes in english? |
| 12:35.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Snago: huh? the important part is there in english anyway, and all of the links go to english sources too :P |
| 12:36.39 | CIA-9 | 03sirow 07Sirow * r64955 10Avion/Avion/ (Avion.lua Avion.toc Localization/enUS.lua embeds.xml): |
| 12:36.39 | CIA-9 | Avion: |
| 12:36.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.40 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.54 | Srosh | Is there an addon that hooks the existing color picker and enhances it? |
| 12:37.13 | [Ammo] | EnhancedColorPicker? |
| 12:37.15 | [Ammo] | or something |
| 12:37.21 | kenlyric | hahahahhha sag |
| 12:37.23 | Srosh | :o |
| 12:37.40 | kenlyric | Cogent has partitioned the Internet |
| 12:37.50 | kenlyric | defrags the internet |
| 12:37.53 | Fisker- | DAMNIT |
| 12:37.56 | Fisker- | that was my line |
| 12:38.16 | Fisker- | well actually it was did they format and defrag it as well? :P |
| 12:38.30 | kenlyric | is the internet plugged in? |
| 12:38.35 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 12:38.40 | sag_ich_nicht | at the moment it's fucked |
| 12:38.47 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64956 10CoolDownButtons/ (config.lua core.lua itemgroups.lua): CoolDownButtons: merged branch performance improvements |
| 12:38.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and blizzard still hasn't learned it's lesson and gotten multihomed |
| 12:38.56 | kenlyric | they capitalize internet. how quaint. |
| 12:38.57 | Fisker- | pressure your ISP to get a peering agreement with telia |
| 12:39.24 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i'll troll the enGB forums with that right now |
| 12:39.41 | Fisker- | i'm going to troll you |
| 12:39.51 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64957 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/ (core.lua itemgroups.lua): CoolDownButtons: |
| 12:39.54 | Fisker- | also |
| 12:40.02 | Fisker- | wouldn't it also mean you have the same problem on their forums? |
| 12:40.08 | Fisker- | i mean it's the same host right? |
| 12:40.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
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| 12:43.03 | CIA-9 | 03zuno * r64958 10UnitActionBars2/ (. ActionButton.lua embeds.xml): |
| 12:43.03 | CIA-9 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 12:43.03 | CIA-9 | - Changed to LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 12:43.20 | CIA-9 | 03chuanhsing * r64959 10MobNotes/MobNotes.lua: MobNotes: update zhTW |
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| 12:44.32 | Fisker- | cuddles sag_ich_nicht |
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| 12:44.47 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3190792845&postId=31903372903&sid=1#0 |
| 12:46.16 | Fisker- | multihoming COSTS MONEY :( |
| 12:46.30 | Fisker- | btw |
| 12:46.49 | Fisker- | You calling them out on the "purchase ip transit" stuff? |
| 12:46.55 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 12:47.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:46] <Fisker-> multihoming COSTS MONEY :( <--blizzard just loves to suck TeliaSoneras dick because they have hosted battle.net in europe since it's creation |
| 12:47.31 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 12:58.03 | Gelo | can anyne access http://www.filefront.com/ ? |
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| 12:58.35 | Zeksie | is back -( sleep )- gone 9 hr 29 min 20 s |
| 12:58.57 | lhunath | Gelo: unfortunately, yes. |
| 12:59.07 | Gelo | damnit |
| 12:59.22 | lhunath | mtr it. |
| 12:59.52 | lhunath | or tracert or traceroute or whatever you like. |
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| 13:02.42 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64960 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/core.lua: CoolDownButtons: bugfix in pulse effect |
| 13:02.47 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64961 10CoolDownButtons/core.lua: CoolDownButtons: bugfix in pulse effect |
| 13:04.37 | CIA-9 | 03anadale * r64962 10UnderHood/ (9 files in 6 dirs): |
| 13:04.37 | CIA-9 | UnderHood: |
| 13:04.37 | CIA-9 | - Fixed the bug with tooltips visible when HUD itself is transparent |
| 13:04.37 | CIA-9 | - Fixed an incorrect behavior of Threat-based bars when entering combat with no target selected |
| 13:04.37 | CIA-9 | - More performance optimization |
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| 13:07.54 | Roblibob | Gelo: its the teliasonera vs cogn |
| 13:08.02 | Roblibob | er.. cogent thing |
| 13:08.59 | Gelo | who do i have to threaten :) |
| 13:09.25 | Roblibob | cogent |
| 13:09.36 | Roblibob | more info here: http://gigaom.com/2008/03/14/the-telia-cogent-spat-could-ruin-web-for-many/ |
| 13:09.54 | jy | nice troll |
| 13:10.01 | jy | in the comments |
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| 13:10.21 | jy | actually there is not troll theres only one side :D |
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| 13:21.36 | kenlyric | hah, and we thought terrorist would destroy the internet |
| 13:22.03 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.renesys.com/blog/2008/03/you_cant_get_there_from_here_1.shtml analysis btw. |
| 13:22.16 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 072.4 * r64963 10CombatFilter/ (CombatFilter.lua FilterGUI.lua FilterRules.lua spacer.tga): CombatFilter: finished events GUI |
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| 13:24.56 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 072.4 * r64964 10CombatFilter/FilterGUI.lua: CombatFilter: save 20-somewhat lines in config table |
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| 13:32.34 | Fisker- | lets have sex with cogent sag_ich_nicht |
| 13:33.38 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:33.38 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
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| 13:36.04 | Fisker- | yes! |
| 13:36.19 | Fisker- | Then they'll HAVE to listen to our demands |
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| 13:37.03 | Zicon | Hmm. On one hand, I want to ignore you and pretend I never saw that... On the other hand, I want to come along and videotape it. |
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| 13:39.59 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r64965 10ZOMGBuffs/Locales/localization.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Minor localisation fix. |
| 13:40.48 | syeren | Is there a questing guide addon which puts things on the map for you like Cart_Quests? |
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| 13:42.42 | Stanzilla | new Safari 3.1 final fails @ 75% of Acid3 |
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| 13:43.56 | Zeksie | syeren: like Cartographer_QuestObjectives? or something that tells you were more quests are? |
| 13:44.08 | syeren | I've already found an addon :p |
| 13:44.12 | Zeksie | hokay |
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| 13:53.06 | CIA-9 | 03mikk * r64966 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: |
| 13:53.06 | CIA-9 | Baggins: |
| 13:53.06 | CIA-9 | - Enable SetToplevel() on bags so they raise when clicked. |
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| 13:55.23 | vhaarr | haste: would it be possible to get a unitId -> frame mapping in oUF without iterating oUF.objects and checking key.unit? |
| 13:55.35 | vhaarr | haste: like for unit, frame in pairs(oUF.units) do ... end |
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| 13:56.24 | haste | vhaarr: the headers allow sorting which will remap frame -> unit |
| 13:57.09 | vhaarr | haste: is frame.unit populated by the secure headers? |
| 13:57.28 | haste | vhaarr: in a way, I map it on OnAttributeChanged |
| 13:57.40 | vhaarr | haste: but then you could remap a lookup table as well surely? |
| 13:57.57 | vhaarr | haste: what's the benefit of oUF.objects compared to a unitId -> object map? |
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| 13:58.24 | haste | .objects is really there just to allow people to iterate over all the frames for various reasons they might have |
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| 13:58.52 | vhaarr | exactly, I'm just saying that personally it would be better for me with a unitId->frame map |
| 13:58.55 | vhaarr | instead of the current list |
| 13:59.13 | haste | I can take a look at adding .units tho' |
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| 13:59.21 | haste | probably going home later today |
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| 14:03.06 | vhaarr | nice okay |
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| 14:14.05 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64967 10CoolDownButtons/core.lua: CoolDownButtons: bugfix |
| 14:14.34 | sag_ich_nicht | fisker bump my thread |
| 14:15.05 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64968 10/branches/CoolDownButtons/core.lua: CoolDownButtons: bugfix |
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| 14:30.22 | Erica | Hi... can someone update cycircled to work with Bongos3 please? I like my perty buttons ok? |
| 14:30.57 | lhunath | feel free. |
| 14:31.39 | Erica | ok... I'll see what I can do |
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| 14:52.43 | sag_ich_nicht | http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=578580 bump my submission |
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| 14:55.54 | xemacs | why does skinner cause that much problems? |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-9 | 03sirow 07Sirow * r64971 10Avion/Avion/ (20 files in 5 dirs): |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-9 | Avion: |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_2761207.html? I LOVE YOU AMSTERDAM |
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| 14:59.31 | Industrial | eh? |
| 14:59.42 | kenlyric | hahahaha |
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| 15:01.28 | Industrial | er, here. |
| 15:01.36 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: I doubt the credibility of that story |
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| 15:02.26 | kenlyric | citation needed |
| 15:02.48 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway vote up my submission please: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=578580 |
| 15:03.39 | Industrial | bla bla company 1 network company 2 |
| 15:03.42 | Industrial | :S |
| 15:03.48 | Industrial | is what I read |
| 15:03.49 | Industrial | :p |
| 15:04.18 | dafire | just vote it down .) |
| 15:04.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: you suck |
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| 15:04.33 | sag_ich_nicht | dafire: you suck even more :) |
| 15:04.45 | Fisker- | attacks sag_ich_nicht |
| 15:04.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- hi |
| 15:05.08 | Fisker- | hey |
| 15:05.30 | Recluse | I didn't quite understand the impact of it, but it could be because I do not use their product. |
| 15:06.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Recluse: you use the internet |
| 15:06.40 | Recluse | and sometimes the web too |
| 15:07.37 | CIA-9 | 03sirow 07Sirow * r64973 10Avion/Avion/Aggro/ (. Aggro.lua Localization/enUS.lua): |
| 15:07.37 | CIA-9 | Avion: |
| 15:07.37 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.37 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.38 | Fisker- | slashdot sucks! |
| 15:08.08 | Fisker- | But using the media to gain attention = win |
| 15:08.12 | Industrial | your mo.. never mind. |
| 15:08.36 | Fisker- | I was supporting our troops in iraq and then BAM cogent depeered my mom |
| 15:08.40 | dafire | who is going to wwi08 ? :) |
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| 15:08.53 | Fisker- | cogent = terrorists |
| 15:09.32 | xyu | Gummy bears = bouncy |
| 15:09.32 | Recluse | so i don't get to visit websites written in brittish english or other foreign languages... |
| 15:09.51 | Fisker- | Cogent replaced our tubes with dumptrucks |
| 15:09.52 | dafire | imagine they epilated your mom ;) |
| 15:10.23 | Recluse | gummy bears are yummy. i eat their ears and paws first. |
| 15:10.33 | dafire | it's all about money, friends ;) |
| 15:10.38 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r64974 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: moved sharedmedia check to top of file |
| 15:10.45 | Recluse | you can also lick their backs and they stick to anything |
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| 15:15.02 | Stanzilla | Zeksie: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11887.msg190956#msg190956 |
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| 15:16.59 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r64975 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (sets.cn.lua sets.tw.lua): |
| 15:16.59 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 15:16.59 | CIA-9 | - zhCN & zhTW localizations update |
| 15:17.19 | dafire | what is it that makes forums draw morons like crap draw flies ? |
| 15:18.45 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r64976 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (WorldEvents.cn.lua WorldEvents.tw.lua): |
| 15:18.45 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 15:18.45 | CIA-9 | - zhCN & zhTW localizations update |
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| 15:23.25 | Zeksie | Stanzilla: Turn on error reporting from WoW, perhaps there's some problem loading main module? But that would mean the other modules don't load, unless you have them all in one folder. And no need to disable parts, as they're all Load on Demand.. |
| 15:24.44 | Trell_ | retarded question, but no trash spawns for vashj does it? |
| 15:24.48 | Trell_ | *respawns |
| 15:25.04 | Trell_ | its our second night of attempts on her tonight >_< |
| 15:25.09 | keiss | no |
| 15:25.24 | Roblibob | uhh, no trash from the bridge up to boss no. |
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| 15:25.51 | Trell_ | and even more cheeky - anyone got any good tips for dealing with the striders, them fearing the healers is our only problem atm (well, we're only in p2, but meh) |
| 15:26.05 | Trell_ | we were using a lock to kite them around the edges |
| 15:26.27 | keiss | kite in the middle of the outter cicle |
| 15:26.38 | Trell_ | yeah |
| 15:26.43 | Trell_ | thats where we were kiting them |
| 15:26.46 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r64977 10ZOMGBuffs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 15:26.46 | CIA-9 | ZOMGBuffs: New Blessings Manager option to limit the number of groups considered |
| 15:26.46 | CIA-9 | for blessing assignments and players. See the Groups button on Manager frame. |
| 15:26.46 | CIA-9 | The default is 5. When generating a template, the group count is synchronised to |
| 15:26.46 | CIA-9 | other ZOMG users. |
| 15:26.52 | dafire | you could use a shaman for kiting or affliction warlock |
| 15:26.52 | keiss | if any healer gets feared there ... his position is wrong |
| 15:26.56 | Trell_ | but they kept gaining on the lock, and finally overruning them |
| 15:27.14 | Trell_ | someone else said a shaman is a great idea, due to the aggro from frost shock |
| 15:27.26 | keiss | we used a shaman , yes |
| 15:27.37 | *** join/#wowace Stan_ (n=Stanzill@p54997A66.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:27.49 | Stan_ | Zeksie: http://ace.pastey.net/84018 |
| 15:28.01 | Anadale | Zeksie, hi |
| 15:28.11 | Josh_Borke | Trell_: curse of exhaustion + mind flay doesn't slow them down? |
| 15:28.22 | Trell_ | we weren't using mf |
| 15:28.22 | dafire | coex works |
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| 15:28.25 | Trell_ | just coex |
| 15:28.44 | Josh_Borke | my guild had the spriests help slow the striders |
| 15:28.46 | Zeksie | that's all normal stan, that's the modules.xml file being processed for people that have everything all in one folder |
| 15:28.48 | Trell_ | but the strider kept gaining on our lock and eventually close enough to fear him, then killing the raid |
| 15:28.55 | Trell_ | (via fear) |
| 15:29.03 | Zeksie | and missing locale files.. nothing wrong there |
| 15:29.03 | keiss | well , the other dps need to help out with slowing it |
| 15:29.08 | Josh_Borke | we also used more than 1 lock |
| 15:29.20 | Anadale | Zeksie, two things |
| 15:29.20 | nevcairiel | let shamans or frost mages slow them down |
| 15:29.25 | nevcairiel | frost schock rank 1 or so |
| 15:29.25 | phyber | Trell_: [Netherweave Net], ftw |
| 15:29.29 | nevcairiel | if you have aggro issues |
| 15:29.34 | Stan_ | Zeksie: kk, it loads now...enabled the disabled modules |
| 15:29.38 | Trell_ | i think we'll try with a shammy tonight - and yeah, all our tailors (about 5) are using nets |
| 15:29.40 | Anadale | 1) Is there a way to determine which group was autoassigned to which player? |
| 15:29.47 | Stan_ | Zeksie: so they seem to be dependent on each other |
| 15:29.48 | Anadale | like palabuff report? |
| 15:29.57 | keiss | idd , nets work good too (but make sure to only use them when the strider is in a good position) |
| 15:30.39 | sag_ich_nicht | pokes Zeksie |
| 15:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | puppy eyes |
| 15:30.47 | Zeksie | Stan_, check version is the main ZOMGBuffs module. looking at it now. I don't see how it's breaking for you. becuase this module is loading the others. so it has to be present u see.. |
| 15:31.37 | Zeksie | Anadale, not yet. It'll do some simplistic sharing of work on a client side basis, but that assumes everyone running ZOMG for the moment. I'm thinking how to best approach this whole side of thigns |
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| 15:31.59 | [SW]Dodge | ~framexml |
| 15:31.59 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 15:32.14 | Anadale | ok, 'cause almost all the time when I mouseover button I see that I'm waiting on all groups |
| 15:32.16 | Zeksie | Stan_, which modules had you disabled. I'll test it out |
| 15:32.33 | Anadale | even when I have two more mages with this addon and everyone is buffed |
| 15:32.50 | Anadale | that was the problem number two :) |
| 15:33.04 | Stan_ | Zeksie: all 3 blessing* modules and Lob |
| 15:33.06 | Stan_ | Log |
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| 15:33.13 | Zeksie | yeah, someone else said something was up with that part, so i'll have to give it some testing later |
| 15:34.03 | Zeksie | Stan_, works fine for me like that.. |
| 15:34.20 | Zeksie | so again.. you must have had an old version of ZOMGBuffs proper |
| 15:34.22 | Stan_ | weird |
| 15:34.31 | Zeksie | that's really the only reason it would do that |
| 15:34.53 | keiss | World Server is Down ... grr |
| 15:35.01 | Zeksie | sag_ich_nicht... what? :) |
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| 15:36.39 | sag_ich_nicht | optimal min/maxassignment :( |
| 15:36.44 | [SW]Dodge | anyone know if there is a way to avoid calling a hook? SetCooldown is hooked by OmniCC but i want a way to NOT let OmniCC know if i used SetCooldown |
| 15:37.34 | Zeksie | see when it grabs it, if it's after VARS_LOADED, then you can grab pointer to real one at module load time? |
| 15:37.52 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: if you can somehow get ahold of the original unhooked function .. if not, no |
| 15:38.22 | Roblibob | Q: Anyone knows if Parrot 1.0 can display ones heal over the head of the target like blizzard default combat text can? |
| 15:39.19 | keiss | Roblibob: no |
| 15:40.28 | Roblibob | thanks keiss |
| 15:40.29 | [SW]Dodge | Zeksie: if i'm right it sets the hook on PLAYER_LOGIN event |
| 15:41.58 | Zeksie | that should give you plenty of opportunity to get the original |
| 15:43.42 | Adirelle | [SW]Dodge, OmniCC hooks it at loading time, so I guess there is no way to get the original function |
| 15:44.33 | Estil | nooo maintenance |
| 15:45.49 | Zeksie | shame there's no ## LoadBefore toc directive.. |
| 15:47.30 | Stan_ | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b0c7136d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674&DisplayLang=de < vista sp1 rtm for the masses :D |
| 15:49.13 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r64978 10DaPortrait/Constants.lua: |
| 15:49.13 | CIA-9 | DaPortrait: |
| 15:49.13 | CIA-9 | - Adjust a few models |
| 15:49.17 | Josh_Borke | Adirelle: get the hook from omnicc |
| 15:49.35 | mitch0 | can I check the commit logs somewhere on the web? |
| 15:49.46 | Josh_Borke | mitch0: fish.wowace.com |
| 15:49.46 | Adirelle | Josh_Borke, what do you mean ? it uses hooksecurefunc and throw away the original |
| 15:49.51 | [SW]Dodge | CDB: function: 0D982BE8 |
| 15:49.52 | [SW]Dodge | OCC: function: 1BE08E88 |
| 15:49.53 | Josh_Borke | oh, yea, that's fubared |
| 15:49.53 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 15:49.54 | mitch0 | danke |
| 15:50.17 | phyber | what are those Gnomish Gimp adds called when you're going to Mother Sharaz in BT? |
| 15:50.38 | [SW]Dodge | tostring(getmetatable(CreateFrame('Cooldown', nil, nil, 'CooldownFrameTemplate')).__index.SetCooldown) <- in add message in the top of my code and after hook |
| 15:50.45 | [SW]Dodge | to diffrent addresses :) |
| 15:53.35 | [SW]Dodge | yes! |
| 15:53.38 | [SW]Dodge | I GOT IT :D |
| 15:53.44 | [SW]Dodge | DIE OMNICC :D |
| 15:56.32 | Zeksie | phyber: Enslaved Servant? |
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| 15:58.57 | phyber | Zeksie: yeah, i thought so. thanks. :) |
| 15:59.06 | phyber | wowhead only has pics of the human Enslaved Servants. |
| 15:59.14 | mitch0 | why does fish.wowace.com show some addons in a funny way? like Addon/lib intead of just Addon (and no commit logs, etc) |
| 15:59.16 | phyber | so i wasn't sure |
| 15:59.29 | sb_ | bbl, installing SP1 :p |
| 16:00.01 | Zeksie | yeah, there's several random flavours |
| 16:00.39 | dylanm | mitch0: That's usually the result of a bad commit. |
| 16:01.21 | mitch0 | dylanm: hohum. how could a commit be bad? (considering I can check it out just fine) |
| 16:01.29 | mitch0 | dylarnm: what should I do to fix it? |
| 16:01.32 | dylanm | mitch0: Well, give me an example. |
| 16:01.38 | mitch0 | CooldownToGo |
| 16:02.03 | mitch0 | but I gotta run now, sorry. :) let's get back to this tomorrow |
| 16:02.21 | Snago | mitch0: I think it's showing directories with only one subdir that way |
| 16:02.49 | dylanm | That's what I suspect, but fisheye is being slow as hell right now. |
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| 16:03.35 | dylanm | Yeah, that's what it's doing alright. Then everything is fine. |
| 16:03.46 | dylanm | I shouldn't have said bad necessarily. |
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| 16:04.04 | dylanm | I see it a lot from when people committed a lib directory to the wrong path and it's just a long chain of subdirs. |
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| 16:04.55 | dylanm | But if you only have one subdirectory it just shows the only deeper option... no expand button like you see on PitBull because PitBull has a zillion subdirs. |
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| 16:11.55 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64979 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:11.55 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 16:11.55 | CIA-9 | - added Option to show/hide OmniCC text. (Pure HAX!) |
| 16:13.11 | CIA-9 | 03keiss 07PoC * r64980 10Tracksw/ (core.lua locale/enUS.lua): |
| 16:13.11 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 16:13.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:23.47 | CIA-9 | QuestTranslator2 |
| 16:23.47 | CIA-9 | Debug function pp inserted |
| 16:23.49 | CIA-9 | 03mikk * r64982 10Baggins/Baggins_ItemOps.lua: |
| 16:23.49 | CIA-9 | Baggins: |
| 16:23.49 | CIA-9 | - Make sorting to specialty bags work again (periodictable 3.1) |
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| 16:27.53 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r64983 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 2 dirs): LibPeriodicTable-3.1: Added Badge of Justice loot category. |
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| 16:29.48 | Hjalte | Any fire warlocks around? (Like in, having tested it on PTR or similar) |
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| 16:30.50 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64984 10CoolDownButtons/ (config.lua core.lua): |
| 16:30.50 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 16:30.50 | CIA-9 | - Show Time, Show CoolDown Spiral and Show OmniCC Text Options can now be set for each bar |
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| 16:31.39 | Estil | destruction warlocks o_o |
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| 16:32.13 | Anea | Mmm... TabletLib acting weird on me... somehow it keeps all text on the left side of the tooltip. It nicely wraps lines halfway. Any ideas? |
| 16:32.16 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64985 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (AtlasLoot_WorldLoot.toc WorldRaidBosses.kr.lua): |
| 16:32.16 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 16:32.16 | CIA-9 | - TOC update for TW; revise WorldRaidBosses.kr.lua |
| 16:33.18 | Hjalte | Estil: destruction warlocks who have specced fire, and are sacrificing their imp, more specifically. I'd like to discuss something about talents etc. with someone who has tried it - If there are such persons in here :) |
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| 16:34.18 | NeoTron | Hjalte: firelocks are not competetive |
| 16:34.43 | NeoTron | Hjalte: now I didn't test in-raid on the PTR but the DrBoom results show that it's about even to shadow if there's a firemage putting scorch up |
| 16:35.39 | NeoTron | I might try it in a raid but the main issue is that I have two pieces with +shadowdmg on them so I'd have to nerf my gear to try it |
| 16:35.45 | Hjalte | NeoTron: Hmm. Plugging my gear into leuliers spreadsheet and then switching between destruction shadow and fire, fire had a somewhat large dps increase. |
| 16:36.21 | Melikae | but does your ego dps increase counter the dps decrease other get from missing Imp SB? |
| 16:36.31 | Hjalte | NeoTron: What cycle did you use for fire? |
| 16:36.36 | Hjalte | spell cycle* |
| 16:37.03 | Hjalte | Melikae: It looked like it, yes. I would gain at least 100 dps, while the decrease in ISB uptime would only mean 60 dps or so less. |
| 16:38.46 | NeoTron | fire was buffed yes |
| 16:38.52 | NeoTron | but there aer a few things to consider |
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| 16:39.18 | NeoTron | - having immolate up means you have to mess up your casting cycle and might hit sub-par hits when it's not |
| 16:39.24 | NeoTron | - No ISB => bad |
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| 16:39.56 | NeoTron | the only cycle is immolate/incinerate until immolate needs refresh |
| 16:40.13 | NeoTron | ISB in raids, from what I see, means about 10% more shadow damage overall |
| 16:40.23 | NeoTron | that's with 3 destro locks and 2 shadow priests |
| 16:41.03 | NeoTron | I think it slightly improved destruction from a pvp perspective though |
| 16:41.13 | NeoTron | but still sucks for that :P |
| 16:44.59 | CIA-9 | 03jncl * r64986 10Skinner/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:44.59 | CIA-9 | Skinner: Skinned NeonChat |
| 16:44.59 | CIA-9 | - Updated CowTip, MobileFrames & Tablet skins |
| 16:46.10 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 072.4 * r64987 10CombatFilter/ (CombatFilter.lua FilterGUI.lua FilterRules.lua): CombatFilter: initial unit filtering |
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| 16:46.27 | Madrak | I thought warlocks just roll their faces across the keyboard for maximum dps rotation. |
| 16:46.44 | NeoTron | shadow dps is primarily one spell |
| 16:46.56 | NeoTron | but there's still quite a bit difference it seems (don't ask me why or how) |
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| 16:47.07 | NeoTron | but fire DPS is slightly tricker (and still not as good :) |
| 16:47.22 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64988 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP.toc: |
| 16:47.22 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 16:47.22 | CIA-9 | - update TOC for TW |
| 16:47.31 | Madrak | I wouldn't know, I still refuse to play a loc on moral grounds :) |
| 16:47.35 | Madrak | *lock |
| 16:48.04 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64989 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/AtlasLoot_RepFactions.toc: |
| 16:48.04 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 16:48.04 | CIA-9 | - update TOC for TW |
| 16:48.29 | kenlyric | seems like a lot of work to have such finely tuned moral codes |
| 16:48.46 | kenlyric | unless that's your only one, then I guess that's good. |
| 16:49.25 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64990 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/: |
| 16:49.25 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 16:49.25 | CIA-9 | - update property setting |
| 16:50.06 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64991 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/AtlasLoot_OldInstances.toc: |
| 16:50.07 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 16:50.07 | CIA-9 | - update TOC for TW |
| 16:50.50 | NeoTron | locks are fun but nothing as op as a hunter (speaking strictly from a leveling standpoint) |
| 16:51.25 | NeoTron | I don't think I ever took on 3x37, 1x36 and 1x40 on my lock when I was level 36 but I did on my hunter :P |
| 16:51.51 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r64992 10ZOMGBuffs/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 16:51.51 | CIA-9 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 16:51.52 | CIA-9 | - Fixed the 'Singles in BGs' option. |
| 16:51.52 | CIA-9 | - Fixed the very obvious error in the state change detection for auto template switching... |
| 16:51.52 | NeoTron | and all I did was to use one smallish mana potion |
| 16:52.57 | dylanm | Warlocks can definitely take on a lot. |
| 16:53.22 | kenlyric | NeoTron: because warlock heals are channeled |
| 16:53.26 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64993 10AtlasLoot_Crafting/AtlasLoot_Crafting.toc: |
| 16:53.26 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_Crafting: |
| 16:53.26 | CIA-9 | - update TOC for TW |
| 16:53.32 | kenlyric | warlock heal needs to be a dot like hunter heal is now |
| 16:55.42 | CIA-9 | 03jncl * r64994 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Outfitter.lua: Skinner: Bugfix for Outfitter skin |
| 16:55.52 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64995 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/AtlasLoot_BCInstances.toc: |
| 16:55.52 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 16:55.52 | CIA-9 | - update TOC for TW |
| 16:56.01 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: ping |
| 16:56.11 | CIA-9 | 03kilrogg * r64996 10oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: - added option (on by default) to use itemID for item checks if available (for cross-language compatibility) |
| 16:57.56 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: ? |
| 16:58.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 16:58.18 | sag_ich_nicht | in before that oRA2 commit breaks compatiblity with CTRA |
| 16:58.33 | nevcairiel | screw CTRA |
| 16:58.45 | doc^blup | noone uses it anymore |
| 17:00.52 | [SW]Dodge | i try to add cyCircled support to my CoolDownButtons addon, currently i have the problem that the cyCircled textrure just overlays my button like this http://i25.tinypic.com/t8omtc.jpg and since cyCircled works wit BT3 i though you have an idea? maybe i have to use a diffrent location for my icon. do you have an idea? |
| 17:01.24 | nevcairiel | no idea how cyCircled really works, i was just happy to get it working |
| 17:01.34 | [SW]Dodge | oh, ok :X |
| 17:01.37 | [SW]Dodge | thx anyway |
| 17:01.43 | [SW]Dodge | i'll continue trying^^ |
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| 17:03.25 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64997 10oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: no change of default behaviour. Ask me or GTFO. |
| 17:03.45 | Hjalte | Haha. Go get them ammo. |
| 17:05.35 | CIA-9 | 03next96 07LMI * r64998 10HandyNotes/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 17:05.36 | CIA-9 | HandyNotes: |
| 17:05.36 | CIA-9 | - Add locale koKR |
| 17:06.33 | CIA-9 | 03next96 07Ace3 * r64999 10HandyNotes/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 17:06.33 | CIA-9 | HandyNotes: |
| 17:06.33 | CIA-9 | - Add locale koKR |
| 17:07.28 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r65000 10Tracksw/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:07.28 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 17:07.28 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.42 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 072.4 * r65001 10CombatFilter/ (CombatFilter.lua FilterRules.lua): CombatFilter: some inline docs |
| 17:09.33 | Hrack | hrm... what happens if someone tries to do an item check on ora for an item that isn't in the cache.. will it disconnect them? :) |
| 17:10.05 | CIA-9 | 03next96 * r65002 10/branches/HandyNotes_Directions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:10.05 | CIA-9 | HandyNotes_Directions: |
| 17:10.05 | CIA-9 | - Add locale koKR |
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| 17:11.50 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r65003 10Tracksw/libs/: |
| 17:11.50 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 17:11.50 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:14.01 | CIA-9 | 03kilrogg * r65004 10oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: bugfix (sorry 'bout that) |
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| 17:14.29 | CIA-9 | 03next96 * r65005 10/branches/HandyNotes/ (Ace3/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua LMI/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua): |
| 17:14.29 | CIA-9 | HandyNotes: |
| 17:14.29 | CIA-9 | - Uodate locale koKR |
| 17:14.44 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r65006 10AtlasLoot/ (AtlasLoot.toc Constants/constants.tw.lua): |
| 17:14.44 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:14.44 | CIA-9 | - update TOC for tw; update constants.tw.lua |
| 17:15.38 | CIA-9 | 03next96 07Ace3 * r65007 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/Locales/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 17:15.38 | CIA-9 | HandyNotes_FlightMasters: |
| 17:15.38 | CIA-9 | - Add locale koKR |
| 17:17.29 | Dashkal | Steam tonk bug? O.o? |
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| 17:20.09 | CIA-9 | 03next96 07Ace3 * r65008 10HandyNotes_Stables/ (Locales/koKR.lua Locales.xml): |
| 17:20.09 | CIA-9 | HandyNotes_Stables : |
| 17:20.09 | CIA-9 | - Add locale koKR |
| 17:20.21 | NeoTron | Drama in oRA2/Leader? :P |
| 17:20.39 | [Ammo] | no drama |
| 17:20.41 | [Ammo] | the truth |
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| 17:24.25 | Xinhuan | yeah steam tonk bug |
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| 17:24.42 | Xinhuan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHxQXWqiHfM |
| 17:24.52 | Xinhuan | very short video |
| 17:25.29 | MoonWitch | ~lastseen |
| 17:25.38 | MoonWitch | how do you do the last seen thing again |
| 17:25.42 | nevcairiel | please dont post vids that show how to use explots |
| 17:25.49 | kagaro | ~seen MoonWitch |
| 17:25.54 | purl | i haven't seen 'moonwitch', kagaro |
| 17:25.57 | MoonWitch | thanks |
| 17:26.07 | MoonWitch | I love the music in that vid though |
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| 17:26.18 | MoonWitch | Dire Straits - ... Sultans of Swing... |
| 17:26.44 | MoonWitch | ~seen TUller |
| 17:26.46 | purl | i haven't seen 'tuller', MoonWitch |
| 17:26.52 | nevcairiel | ~seen is bugged |
| 17:26.53 | purl | i haven't seen 'is bugged', nevcairiel |
| 17:26.53 | MoonWitch | meh |
| 17:26.55 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 17:27.12 | nevcairiel | tuller was on last night |
| 17:27.13 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 17:27.26 | MoonWitch | ah |
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| 17:28.48 | kagaro | pokes MoonWitch looking for artwork |
| 17:29.01 | MoonWitch | lol Hellsing? |
| 17:29.06 | kagaro | yeah |
| 17:29.15 | kagaro | im getting tired of my UI look |
| 17:29.17 | MoonWitch | It would look like the ss you sent me though. |
| 17:29.23 | kagaro | I may have to go all Hello Kitty on it |
| 17:29.36 | MoonWitch | or do you not want the insets for buttons etc? |
| 17:29.44 | kagaro | the insets would be good |
| 17:29.59 | kagaro | hugs MoonWitch |
| 17:30.22 | MoonWitch | do you have photoshop? |
| 17:30.30 | kagaro | no unfortunetly |
| 17:31.10 | kagaro | ive got pixelmator , its kinda like gimp |
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| 17:33.50 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r65009 10oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: - koKR Update |
| 17:33.50 | Fisker- | [Ammo] can i has itemid checks? |
| 17:34.14 | MoonWitch | want to keep your alignment of bars etc the way it currently is? |
| 17:34.48 | Dashkal | Xinhuan: lol, nice bug. |
| 17:34.57 | Dashkal | And no, no I'm not going to go do it, I just get amused by bugs like that |
| 17:35.09 | Xinhuan | probably shouldn't have linked it ;p |
| 17:35.15 | Dashkal | the 5M rampage was a riot |
| 17:35.34 | Fisker- | Zeksie |
| 17:35.43 | Fisker- | if i has 3 paladins and i can only use 2 |
| 17:35.52 | Fisker- | can i then has excluding the paladin from the configuration? |
| 17:36.19 | nevcairiel | why would you have 3 and only use 2 o.O |
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| 17:36.50 | Josh_Borke | the last one is too stupid to be useful |
| 17:36.53 | Fisker- | yeah! |
| 17:37.05 | crohnoes | anyone else seeing broken debuffs in latest pitbull? |
| 17:37.05 | Fisker- | or we have a system where people get invited to a raid so they get attendance + dkp |
| 17:37.36 | crohnoes | whatever i do, i can't get debuffs in my previous position, they're sticking to the right side of the frame, and i've tried all aura positions |
| 17:37.41 | Fisker- | had one yesterday who didn't know how singlebuffing in pallypower worked btw |
| 17:38.14 | MoonWitch | well nor do I Fisker- .. but I don't use Pallypower lol |
| 17:39.37 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r65010 10ZOMGBuffs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:39.37 | CIA-9 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 17:39.37 | CIA-9 | - Fixed a nil error in ZOMGBuffs when leaving combat. |
| 17:39.37 | CIA-9 | - Fixed some issues with deciding when to do group vs. single raid buffs. |
| 17:39.37 | CIA-9 | - Fixed not being able to set the raid buffs rebuff time. |
| 17:39.52 | MoonWitch | so how do you singlebuff, now I am curious lol |
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| 17:42.32 | Dashkal | dies laughing |
| 17:42.49 | Fisker- | you right click MoonWitch :P |
| 17:42.57 | Dashkal | This guy did it and managed to do a flight path on a ground mount |
| 17:42.59 | MoonWitch | thanks :) |
| 17:42.59 | Fisker- | he only knew how to cast greater blessings in pallypower |
| 17:43.11 | MoonWitch | actually, I never used PallyPower |
| 17:43.24 | MoonWitch | I tried it some time ago, when I was level 20 or so. |
| 17:43.41 | MoonWitch | Figured it'd be handiest get when I got to the greater blessings, and totally forgot about it :P |
| 17:44.10 | ulic | we should get cladhaire to make us an awesome video for PallyPower (yes I realize he didn't make it, but his videos are nice) |
| 17:44.18 | MoonWitch | true |
| 17:44.31 | MoonWitch | when I hear Clad I can't help but think he's dutch or german |
| 17:45.42 | Josh_Borke | clad blows at videos |
| 17:48.32 | Fisker- | blows clad |
| 17:50.52 | MoonWitch | brings out the camera to tape that and sell it on ebay |
| 17:51.52 | Seerah | hey now |
| 17:52.04 | MoonWitch | wait, when did you come in here?? |
| 17:52.06 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 17:52.11 | Seerah | I've been in here all day :P |
| 17:52.20 | MoonWitch | pfft you could have told me on yahoo |
| 17:52.25 | Seerah | pfft |
| 17:52.26 | MoonWitch | saved me the cp |
| 17:52.31 | Seerah | lol |
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| 17:52.52 | Seerah | when did *you* come in here? |
| 17:53.07 | MoonWitch | almost 30 min ago |
| 17:53.07 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r65011 10CoolDownButtons/locales/ (deDE.lua enUS.lua esES.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua): |
| 17:53.07 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 17:53.07 | CIA-9 | - fixed locale |
| 17:53.07 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 17:53.08 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 17:53.20 | Seerah | then you should have told me :P |
| 17:53.24 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 17:53.26 | MoonWitch | ok |
| 17:53.40 | MoonWitch | voila - done |
| 17:54.14 | MoonWitch | this is starting to remind me of trade last night... |
| 17:54.21 | Seerah | don't go there |
| 17:54.34 | MoonWitch | I told you what some of the topics were |
| 17:54.36 | Sapiens|Work | trade is the new barrens chat :( |
| 17:54.44 | MoonWitch | I am pretty sure I got reported at some point |
| 17:54.44 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 17:55.09 | MoonWitch | together with about 5 others |
| 17:55.20 | Sapiens|Work | so... is it patch day like everyone predicted? |
| 17:55.33 | MoonWitch | they actually ended up making "new trade" |
| 17:55.36 | dylanm | No one predicted that. |
| 17:55.39 | kenlyric | nobody predicted that |
| 17:55.39 | dylanm | I don't think. |
| 17:55.41 | Dashkal | Neth: "The patch is not today." |
| 17:55.48 | kenlyric | idiots tried to troll with it |
| 17:55.54 | Sapiens|Work | there's always someone that thinks it will come out as soon as preload starts |
| 17:55.58 | Dashkal | I swear she has a "forum macro" for that post. |
| 17:56.08 | MoonWitch | who? |
| 17:56.09 | Sapiens|Work | you'd almost need one |
| 17:56.12 | Seerah | there was prepatch stuff last week, too |
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| 17:56.22 | Seerah | but no. patch is next week (my guess) |
| 17:56.29 | kenlyric | first principal: some people never learn from history |
| 17:56.35 | Dashkal | Nethaera: US CM |
| 17:56.44 | MoonWitch | usually I just assume patch will come when it comes. |
| 17:57.00 | Dashkal | I'm _guessing_ two weeks from now (next weekend is a holiday so likely not) |
| 17:57.08 | Dashkal | not then |
| 17:57.27 | Sapiens|Work | what holiday? |
| 17:57.28 | Dashkal | I wouldn't bet more than a couple copper on it, though. |
| 17:57.30 | Sapiens|Work | checks his calendar |
| 17:57.34 | nevcairiel | easter |
| 17:57.36 | Dashkal | Easter |
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| 17:57.59 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 17:58.04 | Sapiens|Work | lol |
| 17:58.07 | kenlyric | I'm not sure a easter holiday would impact a tuesday release schedule |
| 17:58.07 | Sapiens|Work | whoops |
| 17:58.20 | MoonWitch | is there actually a pretty way to log all chat in a seperate file per channel? |
| 17:58.24 | nevcairiel | alot of rumors point to release next week |
| 17:58.46 | Dashkal | They don't like to patch when they miss a day of work. But again, just guessing. Next tuesday would be hot |
| 17:59.04 | MoonWitch | no it wouldn't |
| 17:59.11 | MoonWitch | i think i am leaving ona holiday then |
| 17:59.14 | MoonWitch | not sure though |
| 17:59.25 | MoonWitch | when people in this house start to pack, I'll know it's close |
| 17:59.42 | Dashkal | Don't worry, MoonWitch, I'll keep the sunwell dailies company for you. |
| 17:59.50 | MoonWitch | good |
| 17:59.54 | MoonWitch | I am only lvl 64 lol |
| 18:00.40 | MoonWitch | oh haste? Are you in here actively? |
| 18:00.56 | haste | define: actively |
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| 18:01.06 | MoonWitch | you're here .. that's what matters lol |
| 18:01.17 | haste | I was just about to go afk tho' :p |
| 18:01.19 | MoonWitch | in oCB, I can't seem to get the spell text to be left aligned |
| 18:02.02 | haste | it's anchored in the center if I remember right |
| 18:02.04 | MoonWitch | I tried spell:SetPoint"LEFT" .. spell:SetPoint("LEFT", bg, "LEFT") .. or anchoring it to cb |
| 18:02.09 | MoonWitch | yeah it is |
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| 18:02.28 | nevcairiel | did you :ClearAllPoints before? |
| 18:02.30 | MoonWitch | but if I move it - say -100 as x offset, it still moves based on how long the string is. |
| 18:02.31 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 18:02.45 | haste | but I really need to go afk D: |
| 18:02.51 | MoonWitch | then go pee.. fine |
| 18:02.52 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 18:02.52 | haste | I'll poke you when I'm back |
| 18:02.53 | MoonWitch | ;) |
| 18:03.08 | MoonWitch | ok .. I'll doodle with it some more |
| 18:05.39 | Fisker- | KILL ME |
| 18:05.44 | Fisker- | I DONT WANNA GOOO |
| 18:06.17 | CIA-9 | 03nirek * r65012 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: KingOfTheJungle: Potential taintfix |
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| 18:09.48 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r65013 10PiraPlex/deps.lua: PiraPlex :- Add some new libs to the deps list. |
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| 18:11.23 | Chompers | go where Fisker- |
| 18:11.29 | Fisker- | TK |
| 18:11.30 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:11.32 | Chompers | :< |
| 18:11.34 | Fisker- | we have n00bs |
| 18:11.47 | Fisker- | this is going to be worse than pugs |
| 18:17.45 | kagaro | MoonWitch: yeah |
| 18:18.17 | kagaro | sorry had to go help a neighbor with his garage door |
| 18:21.16 | Recluse | zomgbuffs requires out of combat for rebuffing, right? or is there some sort of default buff setting which can be cast in combat lockdown? |
| 18:21.39 | Higdur | which totem timer addon should I get for a shammy? |
| 18:22.22 | Zeksie | auto buffing out of combat yes. what did you want to buff in combat? |
| 18:23.10 | Zeksie | it doesn't have the thing that smart buff does of setting 1 spell to be the in-combat one. no.. i really don't see that as necessary. it's more of a minority option that will just complicate things unecessarily |
| 18:23.39 | Higdur | numen? enhancer? |
| 18:23.40 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r65014 10ClassButtons/ (Core.lua Localization.lua): |
| 18:23.40 | CIA-9 | ClassButtons: |
| 18:23.40 | CIA-9 | - Added Tranq. Air totem for Shamans |
| 18:23.40 | CIA-9 | - Added the options required to show & hide the vertical and horizontal bars. |
| 18:24.00 | Recluse | Zeksie: oh, i dunno for sure. say if i was a shaman and wanted my lightning shield up when it goes down or something. not really a request, i was just curious if it had that capability =3 |
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| 18:24.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Zeksie: WTB buff duration indicator for the buffs you buff |
| 18:24.53 | Zeksie | it doesn't, but it will prompt you that it's missing |
| 18:25.08 | Zeksie | sag_ich_nicht. it does that. the bars in the raid popup |
| 18:25.32 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 18:25.35 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme correct that |
| 18:25.38 | Zeksie | it doesn't, but it will prompt you that it's missing *(if you have the in-combat warning enabled) |
| 18:25.39 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB numbers on those bars |
| 18:25.49 | Recluse | ah, okay :) |
| 18:27.22 | Zeksie | numbers huh... had thought of that, but it's gonna look messy with the names there oto |
| 18:27.25 | Zeksie | maybe.. |
| 18:27.27 | Zeksie | will see |
| 18:27.47 | sag_ich_nicht | i have it very wide |
| 18:27.53 | sag_ich_nicht | so i would just take the numbers right to the names |
| 18:28.04 | sag_ich_nicht | or: put it in the tooltip |
| 18:28.13 | sag_ich_nicht | actually tooltip would be the best position for it |
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| 18:29.53 | Zeksie | perhaps. yes. will think about it |
| 18:30.57 | Fisker- | so sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:31.02 | Fisker- | gotten any non-troll replies yet? |
| 18:31.55 | _rane | hmm, i wonder if i'm misunderstanding something |
| 18:32.03 | _rane | is ArenaHistory supposed to be working? |
| 18:32.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: bbl vashj |
| 18:32.22 | _rane | it's recommended everywhere but as far as i can see it's not working |
| 18:33.23 | Fisker- | gonna masturbate over you sag_ich_nicht :( |
| 18:33.33 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r65015 10ZOMGBuffs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ZOMGBuffs: Fixed bugs when loaded from modules.xml. |
| 18:33.50 | haste | MoonWitch: solved it :3 ? |
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| 18:43.11 | Recluse | bleh. even though my horde realm isn't in the dead realms login message, it is not on realm list >.< |
| 18:45.49 | Industrial | ha-ha! |
| 18:48.20 | Fisker- | I WANT TO KNOOOOOOW |
| 18:48.37 | Fisker- | what amount of rep you get in mount hyjal |
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| 18:49.00 | kagaro | Fisker-: 2 runs up to algazor im about honored |
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| 18:49.15 | Primer | So what's a good meta gem for the S3 arena helm for a SL/SL lock? |
| 18:49.39 | Primer | I haven't re-speced yet, and I'm affliction currently (43/7/11) |
| 18:49.39 | NeoTron | 18 stamina/stun resist? |
| 18:49.58 | NeoTron | if of course you're going to peeveepee |
| 18:50.02 | Primer | NeoTron: that sounds good |
| 18:50.05 | Primer | that's the plan |
| 18:50.09 | Primer | 450 resilience, baby! |
| 18:50.22 | jy | mmh, does anybody know about an perl module which can parse lua file to get a SavedVariable file in a perl variable ? |
| 18:50.30 | Primer | and I have no pvp 1H, pants, and 1 trinket |
| 18:51.00 | Primer | jy: just use a regex? |
| 18:51.18 | jy | if i dont find it probably |
| 18:51.28 | Primer | I imagine it'd be much simpler |
| 18:51.28 | jy | was thinking of making things cleaner |
| 18:51.37 | jy | to parse auctioneer data |
| 18:51.44 | NivFreak | haha |
| 18:51.54 | dylanm | You don't have to deal with _too_ much. |
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| 18:52.52 | CIA-9 | 03keiss * r65017 10Tracksw/core.lua: |
| 18:52.52 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 18:52.52 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.03 | Dashkal | jy: Might be "cleaner" to write a small lua utility that reformats the savedvars into something easily perl digestible? |
| 18:53.14 | jy | ^^ |
| 18:53.26 | Primer | When someone deploys a field repair bot...do they get the money from repairs and sales? |
| 18:53.33 | jy | too lazy to learn yet another scripting langage |
| 18:53.35 | Dashkal | Oh god I wish |
| 18:53.38 | jy | ^ |
| 18:53.50 | jy | Inline::Lua maybe |
| 18:53.58 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r65018 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Add menu options (previously only available through the main GUI) to: [1] cleanup deps [2] undo changes |
| 18:54.23 | Dashkal | That looks promising anyway. It shouldn't be all that difficult to write a perl-lua bridge anyway. perl is easy to extend, and lua is designed for it |
| 18:54.25 | Primer | sigh...my realm came up, I got on, got my S3 helm, and in the process of gemming it, it lagged out, now it's down |
| 18:54.53 | jy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=D5866722A401200279A72229D1074653?topicId=3547615268&sid=1 |
| 18:55.16 | jy | executing lua code inside perl, and getting the variable |
| 18:55.22 | jy | intermediate solution |
| 18:55.56 | Recluse | Primer: hehe, i've been whacking the same ore node for ~3 mins now. i suspect the same is about to occur. |
| 18:57.32 | Dashkal | That does look like a plan. Hmm, I'm kind of sad now: I've forgotten how to write perl code. Suppose that happens when you don't touch a language for 5 years |
| 18:59.06 | jy | my work use python |
| 18:59.18 | jy | i use perl |
| 18:59.38 | jy | so no more scripting langage ^ |
| 18:59.52 | Dashkal | why not? more languages == more flexible |
| 19:00.26 | jy | more headache |
| 19:00.37 | jy | to learn a new |
| 19:01.01 | jy | i try to make when those i know everytime i can |
| 19:01.04 | jy | with* |
| 19:01.27 | Dashkal | Ouch, square peg meet round hole and sledgehammer |
| 19:01.34 | xyu | Primer: yeah my server is fucked too |
| 19:01.37 | xyu | can't send mail |
| 19:01.38 | xyu | can't loot |
| 19:01.41 | Primer | I refuse to learn |
| 19:01.43 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.14 | kagaro | python is the suxors |
| 19:02.18 | Primer | hopes people get why... |
| 19:02.21 | Dashkal | The only thing that annoys me about python is the significant whitespace. Looking past that and I like it quite a bit |
| 19:02.35 | Dashkal | Tis why I like lua. Similar pattern without the strangeness |
| 19:02.38 | kagaro | white space should not be significant! |
| 19:03.06 | Fisker- | ZOMG Chompers |
| 19:03.07 | Fisker- | ZOMG |
| 19:03.08 | Dashkal | Agreed, kagaro. Still, I won't overlook the other features over that alone. Syntax is just presentation |
| 19:03.11 | Fisker- | we won the game! |
| 19:03.28 | Fisker- | sees wow credits fade in |
| 19:03.29 | kagaro | Dashkal: im picky that way i wana format how I want dammit |
| 19:03.36 | jy | learn whitespace ! |
| 19:03.44 | jy | and lolcode |
| 19:03.56 | kagaro | i hate zomg your python code fails cause someoene used a space vs tab crap |
| 19:04.25 | Dashkal | Oh yeah, that pisses me off something fierce. I got into the habit of _always_ normalizing tabs into spaces |
| 19:04.57 | kagaro | i would rather do shell script than python |
| 19:04.58 | Dashkal | I've seem tabsizes of 2, 4, 8, 6!? |
| 19:05.56 | Dashkal | I'd like to see a "standard" oo model for lua and I'd be happy. I don't like having to implement it myself for each domain. |
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| 19:06.29 | Dashkal | or more to the point have to learn it all over again for each domain |
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| 19:07.47 | Fisker- | btw Zeksie |
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| 19:08.04 | Fisker- | does zomgbuffs silence whispers? |
| 19:08.20 | Fisker- | i.e. whispers with !buff in them of course |
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| 19:09.43 | Rayden | http://worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 19:09.46 | Rayden | what's going on? |
| 19:10.03 | Primer | they fucked the pooch |
| 19:10.05 | Dashkal | Blizzard broke the internets... or one of their datacenters |
| 19:10.38 | Chaud | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 19:10.42 | _rane | the end is near |
| 19:11.08 | Madrak | Just curious, has anyone attempted that new 2.4 API for blizzard mod configuration interface? Is it any good? |
| 19:11.56 | Xinhuan | decent for small addons, shit for large addon with complicated configs |
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| 19:12.18 | CIA-9 | 03phyber * r65019 10Fizzle/Inspect.lua: |
| 19:12.18 | CIA-9 | Fizzle: |
| 19:12.18 | CIA-9 | - Inspect: Small fix so that the quality borders aren't hidden if you have the inspect window open with no target. |
| 19:12.27 | Josh_Borke | it's wonderful |
| 19:12.29 | Dashkal | heh, looks like Dallas is having issues again. Which makes me wonder how my server (Maelstrom/Shadowburn) is still up |
| 19:12.32 | Josh_Borke | you get a frame that you have to position in |
| 19:12.58 | Josh_Borke | wrt the question about the 2.4 api |
| 19:13.08 | genetik | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 19:13.11 | Josh_Borke | though the ordering of items is a pita |
| 19:13.22 | Rayden | wow my lvl ~40-50 neck piece is better than anything i get until blade's edge quests |
| 19:13.25 | Madrak | oh dear, not a pita :( |
| 19:13.26 | Rayden | for druid tanking |
| 19:13.38 | Dashkal | I'm thinking Nexus will be complex enough that my contribution to _that_ dialog will be a button to bring up the real one |
| 19:13.53 | Josh_Borke | madrak: it's just that any sub-selections are tinsert'd into the list directly after the addon |
| 19:14.02 | Josh_Borke | so your sub-options come out backwards if you're not careful |
| 19:15.23 | Rayden | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19159 <-- i didn't realize how AMAZING this was for feral druids |
| 19:15.30 | Rayden | i won't be replacing this anytime soon even in outlands |
| 19:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | 03/18/08 20:21:29> [Raid] [Ruknor]: PROTIP: To kill lady vashj, shoot her until she dies |
| 19:23.48 | Sapiens|Work | while playing catch |
| 19:23.51 | Sapiens|Work | and juggling babie |
| 19:23.53 | Sapiens|Work | +s |
| 19:24.58 | Primer | more realms down now |
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| 19:25.59 | Xinhuan | argent dawn is spamming my realm (blackrock) ;p |
| 19:26.21 | Xinhuan | 46 of them |
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| 19:28.20 | Recluse | hehe, blackrock doesn't even show up for me, only 3 on the list here |
| 19:28.44 | Xinhuan | i just made 500g ;p |
| 19:28.44 | Zhinjio | ~seen ckknight |
| 19:28.51 | purl | Zhinjio: i haven't seen 'ckknight' |
| 19:29.07 | ckknight | purl sucks |
| 19:29.07 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 19:29.24 | Recluse | lol |
| 19:29.28 | Xinhuan | owned |
| 19:30.26 | Fisker- | lieks |
| 19:31.32 | MentalPower | ~seen ckknight |
| 19:31.33 | purl | i haven't seen 'ckknight', MentalPower |
| 19:31.37 | MentalPower | wierd... |
| 19:31.43 | MentalPower | ~seen MentalPower |
| 19:31.44 | purl | MentalPower: i haven't seen 'mentalpower' |
| 19:32.07 | MentalPower | I think its broken |
| 19:33.51 | Xinhuan | ~seen purl |
| 19:33.52 | purl | i haven't seen 'purl', Xinhuan |
| 19:34.50 | MentalPower | the owner has been alerted |
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| 19:42.40 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r65020 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Categories/Misc.lua Compiler.lua test.lua): |
| 19:42.40 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-3.0 - add Format tag, acts the same as lua's format function, errors are shown to the user. |
| 19:42.40 | CIA-9 | - make sure that string in non-standard number formats such as "001" or "1.00" do not turn into numbers, so that users can format their numbers the way they want and appear the way they want. |
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| 19:43.39 | Primer | realm still down... |
| 19:44.43 | Hjalte | Hmm, the interrupters are sure they got all Lady Malandes Circle of Healings but Recount still shows that she healed 2 of the 4 bosses in the Council fight. Who's right? |
| 19:45.26 | _rane | i just updated all my addons with WUA and texts above players look different now, which addon causes this? |
| 19:45.40 | _rane | clearfont? |
| 19:47.42 | Sapiens|Work | clearfont most likely |
| 19:48.09 | Sapiens|Work | i don't think prat affects player name text but i haven't looked at the options in a while |
| 19:48.29 | Sapiens|Work | you should be using prat instead of clearfont anyway. :) |
| 19:48.38 | _rane | i use both... |
| 19:48.52 | _rane | they're not the same thing afaik |
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| 19:50.13 | MentalPower | ~seen ckknight |
| 19:50.14 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge (3h 34m 29s) #norganna (3h 34m 29s) #wowace (3h 34m 29s) #curseforge (3h 34m 29s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 21m 7s, last said: 'purl sucks'. |
| 19:50.30 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 19:54.12 | Rayden | are more and more servers going down/ |
| 19:54.22 | Rayden | or will i be fine loging onto a green one? |
| 19:54.25 | Rayden | logging |
| 19:55.15 | NeoTron | green? fire? |
| 19:55.20 | NeoTron | locks need green fire! |
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| 19:59.38 | Fisker- | pew pew Chompers |
| 19:59.49 | Primer | so, to meet the "requires at least 3 blue gems" prerequisite for the +18 stam and 5% stun resist meta gem, greens and purples apply, right? |
| 20:00.08 | Dashkal | Hmm, thinking of the wrath spell... WTF are you actually throwing at the target? |
| 20:00.12 | nevcairiel | Primer: yes |
| 20:00.17 | Primer | ok, thanks |
| 20:00.28 | Primer | now all I need is for the damn realm to come back so I can socket this!! |
| 20:00.33 | Fisker- | wrath Dashkal |
| 20:00.34 | Fisker- | WRATH |
| 20:00.37 | Fisker- | ANGER |
| 20:00.38 | Fisker- | HATE |
| 20:00.40 | Fisker- | FRUSTRATIONS |
| 20:00.42 | NeoTron | Primer: pvp gear so.. all stamina zomg |
| 20:01.28 | Primer | it's payback time |
| 20:01.30 | Dashkal | cackles |
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| 20:01.40 | Primer | all hunters and rogues beware! |
| 20:01.49 | Dashkal | pure wrath distilled into a ball of green fire. Sounds perfect for a druid. |
| 20:01.51 | NeoTron | I saw someone in IF the other day who commented on my REAL t6 helm |
| 20:02.14 | NeoTron | stating how he it must have taken a lot of time and all, especially compared to the help his friend had that took him 3 weeks of arena to get >:-) |
| 20:02.33 | Primer | what a n00b |
| 20:02.51 | Primer | I've got helm hidden |
| 20:02.57 | NeoTron | I said he was completely correct |
| 20:03.03 | Primer | I want them to think I have something crappy, so they'll attack me |
| 20:03.06 | NeoTron | I didn't just lose in arenas for 3 weeks, I actually worked for it |
| 20:03.07 | Xinhuan | so this argent dawn gnomes are spamming my server |
| 20:03.24 | Xinhuan | and one of them asked me in PMs, "is your guild the top on this server?" |
| 20:03.36 | Xinhuan | i told him, "no, my guild is the 11th on this server" |
| 20:04.16 | Josh_Borke | waits for the punchline |
| 20:04.41 | Xinhuan | and he's like "wow 11th guild and full t6?" i said "the 17th guild just killed him yesterday" and he's like "i'm gonna reroll here right now" |
| 20:04.57 | Xinhuan | T_T |
| 20:05.09 | Josh_Borke | heh |
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| 20:05.33 | NeoTron | We only have 6 guilds that have killed illidan |
| 20:05.37 | Xinhuan | "him" meaning illidan of course |
| 20:05.46 | NeoTron | 17 that's made it into hyjal |
| 20:06.03 | Xinhuan | and they got a glaive on their first kill zzzzzzzzz |
| 20:06.10 | Josh_Borke | yea, well, impervious is on my server! |
| 20:06.20 | Nefarion | a call to LibStub:NewLibrary() returns a table, and the last minor version number right? that's what the api page on wowwiki (and the file) seems to indicate, but I've seen libs accessing the second return as a table.. |
| 20:06.22 | Josh_Borke | not that anyone has heard of them |
| 20:06.38 | Josh_Borke | those libs were incorrect |
| 20:06.42 | Josh_Borke | and you were reading the code wrong |
| 20:07.00 | Nefarion | how so? |
| 20:07.11 | NeoTron | the last guild to kill illidan on Feb 25th already have a warglaive. we got him just before xmas and recently got our first |
| 20:07.38 | Josh_Borke | because it's not a table that is returned as the second value |
| 20:08.06 | Nefarion | so the proper way to import stuff from an old version is 'lib.var = lib.var or ...' and not 'lib.var = oldlib and oldlib.var'? |
| 20:08.21 | Josh_Borke | imo, yes |
| 20:08.22 | Nefarion | i meant a table returned as the first value |
| 20:08.30 | Josh_Borke | a table is returned as the first value |
| 20:08.37 | Nefarion | okay |
| 20:08.39 | Josh_Borke | ckknight makes a copy of the library and updates from that |
| 20:09.00 | Nefarion | ~seen Rabbit |
| 20:09.03 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@LSt-Amand-152-33-1-196.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 61d 8h 19m 48s ago, saying: 'Hi'. |
| 20:09.13 | Nefarion | hm |
| 20:09.17 | Josh_Borke | oldLib, oldMinor = LibStub:NewLibrary(); for k, v in pairs(oldLib) do newLib[k] = v end |
| 20:09.27 | vhaarr | Nefarion: hi |
| 20:09.31 | Nefarion | yeah i went by how LibBanzai did it |
| 20:09.54 | Nefarion | lib, oldLib = LibStub:NewLibrary ... |
| 20:09.59 | Nefarion | so i guess that's wrong |
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| 20:11.47 | ckknight | Nefarion: it's lib, oldMinor |
| 20:11.55 | ckknight | and then if oldMinor exists, I clear the lib and make the oldLib table |
| 20:12.00 | ckknight | which gets trashed later |
| 20:12.02 | Primer | Service pack did not install...reverting changes... |
| 20:12.03 | MoonWitch | would a CPU or ram or gfx card upgrade help my fps in the outlands.. It's usually around 20. Currently AMD64 3400 2.4Ghz, 1GB, X1650Pro (also got a x800gto should that be better) |
| 20:13.22 | [Ammo] | Nefarion: not wrong at all, usually it's good enough to upgrade the old table |
| 20:13.26 | [Ammo] | copying etc is shrug |
| 20:13.34 | Nefarion | ? |
| 20:13.37 | Rayden | warriors need hp potions |
| 20:13.39 | _rane | MoonWitch: i think there's something else wrong |
| 20:13.46 | Rayden | when leveling |
| 20:13.54 | Nefarion | LibBanzai-2.0 is doing it wrong because it uses the second return as an 'oldLib' table |
| 20:14.08 | Xinhuan | the 2nd return is not a table, its a string |
| 20:14.19 | MoonWitch | _rane: how so? |
| 20:14.21 | Nefarion | exactly. that's why i was checking if Rabbit was on. |
| 20:14.28 | ZealotOnAStick | MoonWitch: Start with doubling your RAM to 2GB |
| 20:14.29 | _rane | MoonWitch: i think i have worse setup and i have better fps |
| 20:14.35 | Xinhuan | also moonwitch, upgrading the ram to 2 gb will result in better alt-tabbing performance, but not much fps improvement |
| 20:14.52 | Xinhuan | upgrading the gx card may or may not give you fps improvement |
| 20:15.08 | Xinhuan | depending on what your current card is |
| 20:15.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Xinhuan: that depends a lot. More ram = less paging, and if he/she has slow HDs, that's extremely desirable. |
| 20:15.19 | MoonWitch | it's annoying the hell out of me, if I end up healing say Kara or even ZG right now, I really can't be fps'dropping |
| 20:15.25 | Estil | wow mages need buff :( |
| 20:15.35 | Xinhuan | 1 gb is enough typically, for paging ZealotOnAStick |
| 20:15.39 | Estil | my warlock killed a frost mage when I was 50% hp and had no pet out |
| 20:15.53 | vhaarr | Nefarion: I'm here, what's up? |
| 20:16.01 | MoonWitch | she .. and I use an older (read 4 yrs old) IDE which holds my OS and applications. Then a SATA for everything else. |
| 20:16.05 | Zedde | but warlocks are OP |
| 20:16.10 | ZealotOnAStick | What resolution and kinds of graphics settings do you run with? AA, Anisotropic filtering, etc? |
| 20:16.13 | Xinhuan | he's complaining about low fps after things have loaded up |
| 20:16.17 | Xinhuan | so its nto a paging issue |
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| 20:16.40 | MoonWitch | gfx card is X1650Pro ... 1280*1024 my monitor's native res. |
| 20:16.50 | Xinhuan | definitely upgrade the card then |
| 20:16.54 | Xinhuan | not the ram |
| 20:16.59 | Nefarion | vhaarr: LibBanzai-2.0 is using LibStub wrong it seems. "local lib, oldLib = LibStub:NewLibrary(MAJOR_VERSION, MINOR_VERSION)", then later "lib.callbacks = oldLib and oldLib.callbacks or {}". Xin and ckk say oldLib should be a number, and the file indicates that, but you access it as a table. |
| 20:17.08 | ZealotOnAStick | XP or Vista? |
| 20:17.19 | Xinhuan | Nefarion, the code in Libstub.lua is less than 15 lines, go read if you want |
| 20:17.24 | Madrak | Friends don't let friends use Vista! |
| 20:17.26 | MoonWitch | well I have an x800gto here too, and I can't recall if I had better fps (allegedly that card should be better for wow) .. xp pro |
| 20:17.39 | Nefarion | Xinhuan: I'm not arguing with you.. =/ |
| 20:17.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Switch to a nice nVidia card. |
| 20:17.43 | vhaarr | Nefarion: okay, so can you fix it? |
| 20:17.52 | Xinhuan | the second return is a string ;p, and strings do have a metatable |
| 20:17.53 | MoonWitch | I still have agp :P |
| 20:17.57 | Nefarion | vhaarr: Sure I guess |
| 20:18.00 | Xinhuan | so technically you could access it as a "table" |
| 20:18.01 | ZealotOnAStick | oy. |
| 20:18.09 | Xinhuan | ("string"):gsub() for eg, |
| 20:18.10 | ckknight | vhaarr: if oldLib then oldLib = {}; for k, v in pairs(lib) do lib[k] = nil; oldLib[k] = v; end end |
| 20:18.12 | MoonWitch | yeah I know... my cpu is socket 754 |
| 20:18.29 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, I was just about to say . . . |
| 20:18.34 | ckknight | err, Nefarion* |
| 20:18.35 | ZealotOnAStick | that's a fairly narrow range of boards there. |
| 20:18.40 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 20:18.48 | Nefarion | vhaarr: No, I can't. I don't know my SVN password, and I deleted the email. |
| 20:18.55 | Madrak | GeForce9500 (I think I typed that right) or like maybe a Sapphire HD Radeon 2600 come in AGP models I think. |
| 20:19.00 | vhaarr | ckknight: so it automatically populates the contents of the first return with the members of the old library? |
| 20:19.00 | MoonWitch | I just want a smaller upgrade to last me just a while longer so I can save up for a very deent system. |
| 20:19.07 | ckknight | yes, vhaarr |
| 20:19.11 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 20:19.13 | vhaarr | okay |
| 20:19.22 | Xinhuan | it depends on how you want to upgrade the lib really |
| 20:19.36 | Nefarion | vhaarr: actually, it just returns the original table |
| 20:19.45 | vhaarr | right |
| 20:20.24 | MoonWitch | so any cards that are known to perform decent for wow (originally i looked for the card to do well on HL2 and Garry's mod.) |
| 20:20.36 | Nefarion | ckknight: is there any particular reason you bother creating an oldlib table? |
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| 20:20.46 | MoonWitch | holy cow, agp card are damn cheap nowadays |
| 20:20.47 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 20:20.49 | ckknight | Nefarion: I consider it a cleaner upgrade mechanism |
| 20:21.07 | Madrak | http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=180&grp=3 |
| 20:21.34 | Madrak | It's not great, but you're capped by AGP |
| 20:21.35 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r65021 10LibBanzai-2.0/LibBanzai-2.0.lua: LibBanzai-2.0: Fix library upgrades. |
| 20:21.37 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest buying a new board + ram + gxcard + casing tbh |
| 20:21.57 | MoonWitch | yeah and at the moment I don't have the cash for board, ram, cpu and the whole shebang |
| 20:22.01 | Madrak | Well, she said she wanted cheap |
| 20:22.16 | MoonWitch | but I dream of it ... it makes me all .. excited ... new computer parts.. |
| 20:22.29 | Nefarion | lol same |
| 20:22.47 | Nefarion | i wish i had the cash for it right now. i'm running a horrendous 2 fps in outlands. |
| 20:23.08 | MoonWitch | well in shat itself I can be happy to get 15 at the moment |
| 20:23.14 | [Ammo] | ckknight: it's also slower with multiple upgrades but minor shrug |
| 20:23.15 | MoonWitch | with or without mods lol |
| 20:23.32 | [Ammo] | and if you have a proper upgrade path the regular method is clean as it can be |
| 20:23.52 | MoonWitch | I get 40-50 in azeroth of course, even with heavy combat.. but the BC stuff kills it for me :( |
| 20:24.00 | ckknight | [Ammo]: if I remove an internal table, I don't want to be stuck with it inadvertently |
| 20:24.03 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 20:24.08 | Nefarion | yeah i get 20 azeroth |
| 20:24.15 | NeoTron | it seems WOTLK will be even more demanding |
| 20:24.19 | [Ammo] | you can remove it on upgrade |
| 20:24.19 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 20:24.24 | Xinhuan | the internal table should get GCed once the closures get GCed |
| 20:24.29 | NeoTron | which I do think is overall a good thing |
| 20:24.29 | MoonWitch | I won't be able to run it currently most likely |
| 20:24.36 | Xinhuan | or at least, they should all get GCed together on a full-sweep |
| 20:24.37 | NeoTron | but it sucks if you can't run it yeah |
| 20:24.48 | Nefarion | NeoTron: god i hope not. or at least i hope i have a job by then to buy a new comp. |
| 20:24.49 | ZealotOnAStick | When was the last time you defragged? |
| 20:24.55 | MoonWitch | Neo, that gives me an excuse to go "yeah, I need it." |
| 20:25.00 | MoonWitch | 3 days ago :P |
| 20:25.04 | ZealotOnAStick | ok. |
| 20:25.12 | NeoTron | Nefarion: looking at the graphics even a simple thing like trees look better |
| 20:25.13 | MoonWitch | I tend to defrag on fridays normally, but had other things to do |
| 20:25.25 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, I'd sort of hold off on what you spend now then. |
| 20:25.35 | ZealotOnAStick | because if you bought more RAM, it's not going to be compatible with a newer system. |
| 20:25.43 | Nefarion | NeoTron: Yeah I noticed that, but I've never seen WoW on even half graphics settings, so I didin't know it was an upgrade. |
| 20:25.51 | MoonWitch | Nefarion: I feel the same way.. I need a job too. Heck, I'd even work streets for a new pc. |
| 20:26.16 | MoonWitch | Mind you, it'd have to be a good machine :P |
| 20:26.40 | MoonWitch | so you would recommend nVidia for a new machine? |
| 20:26.42 | Ozguli | Does some grid module show the various raid debuffs that require extra healing? |
| 20:26.48 | MoonWitch | << always used ATi |
| 20:26.50 | Nefarion | <3 nVidia |
| 20:26.55 | NivFreak | nvidia is win |
| 20:27.02 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd recommend nVidia for any Blizzard product, and so does their Lead Technical Artist. |
| 20:27.03 | NivFreak | Ozguli: yes |
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| 20:27.25 | NivFreak | It's something like GridStatusRaidDebuffs iirc |
| 20:27.53 | MoonWitch | I'd probably estimate a need for about 1.5K for a new machine.. depending on where I get the parts, in my case, germany |
| 20:27.55 | ZealotOnAStick | honestly, I'd recommend nVidia over ATI anyway . . . but Blizzard stuff in particular leans towards more nvidia toys. |
| 20:28.04 | mathuin | Anyone here familiar enough with Littlewigs to tell me whether there's timer support for the bear boss in ZA? |
| 20:28.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I thought ZA was covered by BigWigs, not Little? |
| 20:28.38 | Ozguli | yea big |
| 20:29.00 | MoonWitch | any particular MB brand? (I usually had MSI, but my last one sucked hairy monkeyballs) |
| 20:30.21 | Xinhuan | if u ever have to decide between "faster cpu" and "faster gxcard", always go for the "faster gxcard" |
| 20:30.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm fond of ASUS, eVGA is making some decent boards these days, as are ULTRA and XFX. ABIT is trying to make a comeback but aren't quite there yet. |
| 20:30.40 | Xinhuan | i use a gigabyte board, and a eVGA card |
| 20:30.40 | MoonWitch | evga and ultra aren't usually available here :( |
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| 20:30.51 | mathuin | I checked the Bigwigs page and didn't see any references to ZA, but they might be stale. Either way, are there timers for the bear boss? :-) |
| 20:30.52 | Nefarion | XFX and eVGA are also win |
| 20:31.05 | NivFreak | mathuin: yes |
| 20:31.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Gigabyte varies a lot. I used to like Soyo but their recent work hasn't impressed me. |
| 20:31.29 | mathuin | My girlfriend was bitching about some kind of "no silence" timer that Deadly Boss Mods have but she wasn't seeing in Bigwigs. |
| 20:31.39 | ZealotOnAStick | When was the last time she updated? |
| 20:31.54 | mathuin | Probably within the last week. |
| 20:32.06 | Xinhuan | she probably updated from the wrong website |
| 20:32.12 | ZealotOnAStick | *shrug* I dunno. |
| 20:32.30 | ZealotOnAStick | My guild always runs ZA at very inconvenient times for me, which is irritating. |
| 20:32.35 | ZealotOnAStick | afk a bit |
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| 20:38.19 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r65022 10UnderHood/ (Localization/localization-koKR.lua UnderHood.toc): |
| 20:38.19 | CIA-9 | UnderHood: |
| 20:38.19 | CIA-9 | - added koKR translation(Thanks papertiger) |
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| 20:40.54 | Zeksie | Fisker-: yes, you won't see whispers with !buff in them, or the reply |
| 20:43.23 | rubik | how hard do the hydross elemental adds hit? can i tank 2 without much resist gear if i'm a druid bear with good gear (all T4/badge epics)? or will i get wtfpwn3d quickly? |
| 20:43.50 | NeoTron | depends on how fast they die |
| 20:44.06 | rubik | i'd be sitting on ~20k hp/34k-ish armor/50% dodge fully raid buffed |
| 20:44.19 | rubik | hmm.. ok |
| 20:44.44 | rubik | considering these would be our first attempts ever (casual++ guild), i'm gonna guess that they won't die TOO quickly. heh |
| 20:45.17 | Antiarc | Your AC doesn't matter |
| 20:45.21 | Antiarc | Their damage is elemental |
| 20:45.22 | Antiarc | IIRC |
| 20:45.39 | rubik | i thought i read much of it is NOT elemental |
| 20:45.43 | rubik | but rather physical |
| 20:46.04 | Antiarc | Well, they don't hit super super hard in any case |
| 20:46.06 | rubik | but that doesn't make sense.. physical frost + physical nature? |
| 20:46.18 | Antiarc | Hydross is the same way |
| 20:46.44 | Antiarc | He melees but that damage can be reduced by resist gear, and it means he can't crush. Again, IIRC. |
| 20:46.55 | Zeksie | it's elemental. green are nature, blue are frost. and yeah, ac matters not one little bit. ur prolly surviving cos of the 50% dodge ;) |
| 20:47.29 | rubik | Antiarc: correct, hydross does not crush.. can't be blocked either though |
| 20:47.50 | MoonWitch | okies, going back into the game, thanks guys, I wrote it down :) |
| 20:48.17 | rubik | cool.. trying to find out what kind of HP the adds have each |
| 20:48.21 | mathuin | Okay, I talked to her more about the specific issue, and I looked through Nalorakk.lua's SVN history. |
| 20:48.40 | mathuin | She's looking for a Deafening Roar timer for the two-second silence. DBM has it, BW doesn't. |
| 20:48.41 | rubik | to guesstimate how quickly they can die |
| 20:48.51 | mathuin | There's no reference to a DR timer in the BW changelogs. |
| 20:49.22 | mathuin | Nor is there any in the code proper. |
| 20:49.28 | mathuin | Should I be looking elsewhere? |
| 20:49.43 | Funkeh` | Why would you need a timer for something that you can see in your debuffs that's as small as 2 seconds |
| 20:49.48 | NeoTron | 1) keep tank topped off, 2) keep hots up |
| 20:49.54 | NeoTron | don't need a timer for that |
| 20:50.05 | NeoTron | is it even on a fixed cooldown? |
| 20:50.09 | Funkeh` | no |
| 20:50.36 | NeoTron | I know DBM added timer for a'lar events that had no timer at all |
| 20:50.46 | mathuin | Okay. |
| 20:50.48 | NeoTron | or rather which was undeterministic adn thus useless |
| 20:51.27 | mathuin | I play a rogue. I don't even notice those silences, I just keep cycling. :-) |
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| 20:51.37 | NeoTron | a friend said how DBM was so much better than BigWigs because it let him set up timers for "bathroom break" that everyone in the raid got |
| 20:52.04 | mathuin | ... special. |
| 20:52.07 | NeoTron | I'd drive me nuts if I was a raider and my raid leader put up stupid timers on my screen... |
| 20:52.08 | FinalX | rofl |
| 20:52.21 | Killmore | you can do manual raid timer with bw :\ |
| 20:52.40 | NeoTron | or you could juse learn the clock and use vent / raid to communicate |
| 20:53.07 | NeoTron | he went as far as saying that he used timers like "survive this long on archimonde at least" |
| 20:53.08 | NeoTron | how about "live until archimonde is dead" instead? |
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| 20:54.25 | mathuin | I can see custom raid timers for "fastest we've gotten to Attumen" or whatever if that's your bag. |
| 20:54.45 | mathuin | Or "we're on track to end KZ in four hours". |
| 20:54.49 | CIA-9 | 03vangual * r65023 10PitBull/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:54.50 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
| 20:54.50 | CIA-9 | - added totemtimers module (loads in 2.4 only, commit approved by ckk) |
| 20:54.50 | CIA-9 | - more testing and feedback welcome |
| 20:54.50 | CIA-9 | - german localisation will follow soon |
| 20:56.46 | Fisker- | keiss my friend! |
| 20:57.03 | Fisker- | will mana surge eat my babies on kael'thas? |
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| 20:58.35 | NeoTron | damn this German guild |
| 20:58.48 | NeoTron | 6 warglaive drops (3 MH, 3 OH) in 15 kills! |
| 20:58.51 | NeoTron | 40% drop rat |
| 20:58.53 | NeoTron | wtd |
| 20:59.06 | Chompers | *scowl* |
| 21:01.30 | NeoTron | why RNG sucks for loot (TM) |
| 21:02.08 | Dashkal | meh. They'd better do full closures in java or nothing... *is terrified of the generics mess*. |
| 21:02.10 | Anadale | Lol, UH got Korean translation :) Thanks a lot :) |
| 21:02.45 | Hjalte | wohoo, i'm on illidan and no-one knows what the fuck to do because we didnt think we'd down council! |
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| 21:03.09 | NeoTron | sounds fun |
| 21:03.17 | Primer | kill him |
| 21:03.30 | Dashkal | Stab him until he dies? |
| 21:03.39 | NivFreak | is holy crit worth a damn for paladins anymore? |
| 21:03.46 | NivFreak | post illumination nerf |
| 21:03.50 | Vangual | run around like headless chicken in p2 |
| 21:04.37 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r65024 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BlessingsManager/ZOMGBuffs_BlessingsManager.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Tweaked group leadership detection, for the PP unpromoted warning. |
| 21:04.44 | Zeksie | well, you'll still gain mana back from it, just not as much as before. |
| 21:05.31 | NivFreak | but doesn't gearing for mp5 produce superior longevity? |
| 21:06.11 | mathuin | Okay, I read through the DBM ZA code and found that all DBM does is post a two-second message that says "Silence" when you get the silence. A noisemaker for the insufficently attentive. Not a crystal ball warning when it will come. |
| 21:06.11 | EvilJohn_ | if you need closures in java, you might consider doing some of the work in Groovy |
| 21:06.15 | mathuin | Thanks for your help! |
| 21:07.24 | keiss | Fisker-: hmm , good question ... it will if you proc before you switch to the kael weapon .... tbh ... te fight is so easy up to the point that i would just disable it ;) |
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| 21:07.58 | Zeksie | imo yes, but that's cos of the other nerf to Spritual Attunement |
| 21:08.36 | _rane | anyone using arena historian? |
| 21:09.31 | NivFreak | Zeksie: spriests were so hax with pallys before that =/ |
| 21:09.34 | keiss | Fisker-: i can add a check for the normal weapon and only switch if that one is equipped ... |
| 21:09.37 | Zeksie | ye :) |
| 21:10.34 | NivFreak | so we have a couple of paladins, both running relatively mp5 heavy |
| 21:10.42 | NivFreak | and all this crit plate drops in SSC/Tk |
| 21:10.53 | NivFreak | so no one is really sure if it's worth taking |
| 21:10.58 | Zeksie | crit is still worthwhile, but i wouldn't aim ONLY for that. |
| 21:11.24 | NivFreak | it's just difficult to assess the value of it vs mp5 |
| 21:11.47 | Zeksie | could try the EJ site. |
| 21:11.53 | NivFreak | of course |
| 21:12.15 | Josh_Borke | they know EVERYTHING |
| 21:12.15 | NeoTron | NivFreak: look, your healers should know if a piece of gear is better |
| 21:12.17 | Zeksie | i'm sure someone has run some numbers on it |
| 21:12.21 | NeoTron | using a spreadsheet or similar methods |
| 21:12.34 | NeoTron | if they don't they need to learn |
| 21:13.17 | NivFreak | they do need to learn |
| 21:13.20 | NivFreak | but so do I :) |
| 21:13.41 | NivFreak | I've seen all sorts of mp5 vs crit theory personally |
| 21:13.54 | NivFreak | but I don't heal on a paladin, so I don't know how much of it translates |
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| 21:14.38 | NivFreak | it's sort of wierd going through SSC/TK at this point |
| 21:14.53 | NivFreak | so much of the loot isn't really an upgrade, it's just different |
| 21:15.01 | Zeksie | yeh |
| 21:15.14 | NivFreak | !i Chestguard of Hidden Purpose |
| 21:15.29 | NivFreak | !i Chestguard of Hidden Purpose |
| 21:15.37 | NivFreak | it doesn't spam it eh |
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| 21:15.48 | NivFreak | so anyway, our paladins all have that chest |
| 21:15.59 | NivFreak | and the Glowing Breastplate of Truth drops |
| 21:16.03 | NivFreak | off lurker |
| 21:16.32 | NivFreak | to me it doesn't look like an upgrade |
| 21:16.50 | NivFreak | but they aren't sure how to value crit, or if they should even both building a crit focused set at this point |
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| 21:17.22 | Zhinjio | pally healing is all about crit though, no? |
| 21:17.28 | Zhinjio | its how you maintain mana |
| 21:17.31 | NivFreak | not since the illumination nerf afaik |
| 21:17.52 | Zhinjio | I guess I've been tanking too long. I wasn't aware it had changed. |
| 21:17.55 | NivFreak | I mean, it has a benifit of more healing throughput |
| 21:18.12 | NivFreak | but I'm not a big fan of relying on crit heals :) |
| 21:18.45 | Zhinjio | relying is a strong way to put it. But if 1/5 or 1/4 of your heals crits... thats something you can rely on to some extent at least |
| 21:18.50 | Zhinjio | its different if its 1/10 |
| 21:19.03 | NivFreak | I guess that's just because my healer is a priest ;) |
| 21:19.08 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 21:19.09 | NivFreak | and I have like 7% crit |
| 21:19.10 | Zhinjio | fair enough |
| 21:19.24 | Zhinjio | I think before I switched my spec, mine was like... 28% |
| 21:19.28 | Zhinjio | or something silly |
| 21:19.49 | NivFreak | I guess the answer I would expect is, get enough mp5 to not run out of mana, then prioritize crit |
| 21:19.50 | Zhinjio | gah, my server is up but I can't retrieve my character list |
| 21:19.52 | NivFreak | but that's just gut |
| 21:19.59 | NivFreak | and I have no idea what enough mp5 would be :) |
| 21:20.06 | NivFreak | for the majority of fights |
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| 21:21.45 | CIA-9 | Manasurge: |
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| 21:23.38 | CIA-9 | 03keiss 072.4 * r65026 10Manasurge/ (core.lua options.lua): |
| 21:23.38 | CIA-9 | Manasurge: |
| 21:23.38 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:24.34 | keiss | Fisker-: there you go ... and you owe me 25s .. i had to buy a grey weapon to test it ;) |
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| 21:25.08 | NimbleRabit | this whole down server thing |
| 21:25.10 | NimbleRabit | is not cool |
| 21:25.22 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r65027 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua: BigWigs_VashjFFA: Added koKR translation |
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| 21:29.49 | Zedde | What is a good codec for TS = |
| 21:29.50 | Zedde | ? |
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| 21:31.14 | Uhuru | Hi, is aUF_RangeCheck works for you ? |
| 21:31.22 | Arrowmaster | speex highest qual |
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| 21:34.35 | Sapiens|Work | aye, any of the higher quality speex codecs will work quite well |
| 21:35.00 | Sapiens|Work | although i think if you're using the third-party mac client it can't use the highest ones |
| 21:37.35 | Fisker- | lieks |
| 21:37.40 | Fisker- | kthx keiss :P |
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| 21:45.12 | chexsum_ | does ace3 use callbackhandler ? |
| 21:45.30 | Orionshock | alot of it does |
| 21:45.42 | chexsum_ | cool i need examples :) |
| 21:45.58 | Orionshock | look at the event lib |
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| 21:46.48 | CIA-9 | LibMapIcons-1.0: |
| 21:46.48 | CIA-9 | - Added convenience calls: |
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| 21:51.35 | Uhuru | is this normal that auf_rangecheck works for my druid and not for my mage ? |
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| 21:53.32 | Xinhuan | not normal |
| 21:53.37 | Xinhuan | maybe you need to set a spell |
| 21:53.40 | Xinhuan | to "range check" |
| 21:54.25 | chexsum_ | it might be trying to use detect magic :\ |
| 21:55.03 | Uhuru | in the lua file you meen ? |
| 21:56.20 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65029 10/branches/aX_RaidStatus/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:56.20 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus(Ace3): |
| 21:56.20 | CIA-9 | - Initial Commit |
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| 21:56.46 | chexsum_ | theres no default spel set for non-healing classes |
| 21:56.59 | chexsum_ | just add one in core.lua imo |
| 21:57.19 | Uhuru | i will try to do this, thank's |
| 21:58.00 | chexsum_ | dunno if mage has one for friend and enemy but theyre best to use |
| 21:58.21 | Uhuru | something like that ? ["MAGE"] = BS["FrostBolt"], |
| 21:58.41 | chexsum_ | nah use Dampen Magic |
| 21:58.42 | Xinhuan | range check should be for "Remove Lesser Curse" - 40 yards range |
| 21:58.50 | Xinhuan | using a 30 yard spell doesn't make sense at al |
| 21:58.51 | Xinhuan | all |
| 21:58.52 | chexsum_ | you cant frostbolt a friend :\ |
| 21:58.53 | Xinhuan | like AI |
| 21:59.18 | Uhuru | Remove Lesser Curse, good idea thx |
| 21:59.25 | chexsum_ | amp magic is friend/foe ? |
| 21:59.39 | Gngsk | no |
| 21:59.43 | chexsum_ | bleh |
| 21:59.49 | chexsum_ | thatd be nice lol |
| 21:59.55 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r65030 10QuestTranslator2/ (AlarLib.lua QuestTranslator2.toc qt2.lua): |
| 21:59.55 | CIA-9 | QuestTranslator2 |
| 21:59.55 | CIA-9 | Fixed missing MYNAME |
| 21:59.55 | Gngsk | too nice |
| 22:03.23 | chexsum_ | aUF_RangeCheck_M uses ace3 so its probaby better to use |
| 22:03.29 | NivFreak | so is there a mod that will let me know if I'm missing a buff that I want in raid? |
| 22:03.32 | NivFreak | on myself |
| 22:05.41 | chexsum_ | raidbuffstatus ? |
| 22:05.57 | chexsum_ | theres a few of them |
| 22:06.23 | Zeksie | zomgbuffs does it for the whole raid if you care about that. more a raid leader thing (shameless plug) |
| 22:06.59 | chexsum_ | and it sounds cooler |
| 22:07.27 | Zeksie | doesn't nag you about it though if that's what you wanted, it's more an auto buffing mod. the raid popup is just icing, and to help buff classes rebuff who's needed |
| 22:08.56 | Primer | sigh...realm STILL down |
| 22:09.28 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65031 10/branches/aX_RaidStatus/: |
| 22:09.28 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus(Ace3): |
| 22:09.28 | CIA-9 | - Added Embeds. |
| 22:10.28 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65032 10/branches/aX_RaidStatusConfig/ (. RaidStatusConfig.lua aX_RaidStatusConfig.toc embeds.xml): |
| 22:10.28 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatusConfig(Ace3): |
| 22:10.28 | CIA-9 | - Initial Commit |
| 22:10.45 | Groktar | CIA-9 best bot ever |
| 22:11.07 | Zeksie | don't let purl hear you say that |
| 22:11.11 | NeoTron | Primer: withdrawing? :P |
| 22:11.17 | NeoTron | purl sucks |
| 22:11.17 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
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| 22:14.02 | Primer | NeoTron: yes, I really wanted to play a bg with 450 resilience |
| 22:14.08 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65033 10/branches/aX_RaidStatusConfig/: |
| 22:14.08 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatusConfig(Ace3): |
| 22:14.08 | CIA-9 | - |
| 22:17.06 | NivFreak | Zeksie: I'm plan to give your mod a try soon :) |
| 22:17.25 | NivFreak | I run pally power + XRS to catch slacking buffers atm |
| 22:18.05 | Chompers | i'm having a hard time convincing pallys to try it out |
| 22:18.07 | NivFreak | I just want something to yell at me if say, amp dmg expires on myself |
| 22:18.18 | NivFreak | Chompers: healers are a PITA |
| 22:18.18 | Chompers | "pallypower works fine, i dont need it" |
| 22:18.21 | Chompers | :< |
| 22:18.44 | NivFreak | I have a really wierd situation atm |
| 22:18.49 | NivFreak | I have enough tanks and healers for every raid |
| 22:18.55 | NivFreak | but I keep having to fill 2-3 dps slots |
| 22:19.01 | NivFreak | I never thought it would happen |
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| 22:22.21 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r65034 10QuestTranslator2/ (AlarLib.lua QuestTranslator2.toc): |
| 22:22.21 | CIA-9 | QuestTranslator2 |
| 22:22.21 | CIA-9 | Cleaned loading sequence |
| 22:24.34 | Uhuru | ["MAGE"] = BS["Remove Lesser Curse"], works fine, thx Xinhuan |
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| 22:27.09 | Zeksie | Chompers: that's fine, they don't have to.. let them spend time clicking configs... i really don't care. i made it for our guild palas, if someone else can use it, then good for them ;) |
| 22:27.38 | NeoTron | queue Alar discussion in 5... |
| 22:27.44 | Chompers | i want them to use it though |
| 22:27.56 | Chompers | i hate asking for salvation over light every 5 minutes |
| 22:28.11 | NeoTron | I am in a situation where I can order it to be used |
| 22:28.15 | NeoTron | love power |
| 22:28.27 | NeoTron | that came out wrong. I mean I love _having_ power |
| 22:28.43 | Chompers | need more evil laugh |
| 22:28.53 | Zeksie | i think PP does single buffs.. but they have to set it up. if you're doing assignments for all via ZOMG, then it'll set that up on other PP users. Only needs 1 ZOMG user to generate assignments |
| 22:28.56 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r65035 10/branches/aX_RaidStatus/ (RaidStatusCore.lua embeds.xml): |
| 22:28.56 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus(Ace3): |
| 22:28.56 | CIA-9 | - Fix: FuBar Options Menu |
| 22:28.56 | CIA-9 | - Change: embeds.xml |
| 22:29.18 | Chompers | i like the !buff -bol -bos stuff, looks sweet |
| 22:29.22 | Zeksie | heh |
| 22:29.26 | NeoTron | fubar with ace3? |
| 22:29.37 | Zeksie | made that for 1 particular druid we have. switches from dps to tank every 2 damned minutes |
| 22:29.41 | NeoTron | is the ace3 fubar support usable now? |
| 22:30.11 | Chompers | i was thinking of an addon idea, wondered how possible this might be |
| 22:30.37 | Chompers | it checks whos in your raid and creates a layout to max healing/dps |
| 22:30.51 | Chompers | so ench shammys with rogues and dps warriors |
| 22:30.55 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 22:30.58 | NeoTron | auto-raid-optimizer |
| 22:31.00 | Zeksie | that's near impossible to do really |
| 22:31.00 | NeoTron | I like it! |
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| 22:31.16 | Chompers | perhaps it could have automatic profiles |
| 22:31.19 | Zeksie | without having some serious theory crafting analyzing every player. scoring them etc. |
| 22:31.20 | Chompers | so max-dps |
| 22:31.23 | NeoTron | Zeksie: impossible to fully automate, but possible to set up preferences and have it organize based on those |
| 22:31.23 | Chompers | max-healing |
| 22:31.38 | Zeksie | yeha, automate sure, but not do what he's after ;) |
| 22:32.11 | NeoTron | I was very disappointed when I realized x-perl couldn't change groups in combat :P |
| 22:32.53 | Zeksie | yeah, secure funcs now :| |
| 22:33.14 | NeoTron | is it possible to do from an addon with a hardware event? |
| 22:33.15 | Arrowmaster | hmm that aX_RaidStatus in branches is doing fubar plugin weird |
| 22:33.20 | NeoTron | i.e you can drop and drag ppl mid-raid |
| 22:33.35 | Zeksie | nah, cos there's no template for moving ppl in raid |
| 22:33.36 | Arrowmaster | and i doubt it will even work properly |
| 22:33.46 | NeoTron | k |
| 22:34.03 | Arrowmaster | since none of the db changing stuff will work |
| 22:34.23 | NeoTron | it'd be nice with an addon that told me "Swap HealerA for HealerB" in fights where I give healers a SP |
| 22:34.40 | Zeksie | you'd hate it |
| 22:34.55 | NeoTron | why? |
| 22:35.01 | NeoTron | now I have to manually figure it out instead |
| 22:35.19 | NeoTron | 1) find healer low on mana w/o a SP, 2) find healer with lots of mana with SP, 3) swap |
| 22:35.46 | Zeksie | cos you'd either be second guessing it and deciding yourself anyway, or it'd suggest something you just didn't like or wasn't appriate. a mod cannot know the situation at hand.. |
| 22:35.48 | NeoTron | automating 1 and 2 would be helpful |
| 22:36.01 | NeoTron | what I need is super easy |
| 22:36.12 | Arrowmaster | you know what would be nice for pally buffs, an addon that others could use and select their desired priority for blessings which multiple configs so that if they join a 5man with a pally, if the pally uses the mod it would tell them which blessing they want and if they join a raid the pallys could know depending on the number of pallys what that class wants for buffs |
| 22:36.14 | NeoTron | healer with lowest mana w/o SP for healer with most mana with SP |
| 22:36.15 | NeoTron | that's it |
| 22:36.23 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 072.4 * r65036 10CombatFilter/ (CombatFilter.lua FilterGUI.lua FilterRules.lua): CombatFilter: finished unit filtering |
| 22:36.25 | NeoTron | an addon can figure that out super easy |
| 22:37.04 | Arrowmaster | not really, you dont know if the rogues/warriors prefer might over kings |
| 22:37.10 | Arrowmaster | if they can only have 1 |
| 22:37.30 | Zeksie | Arrowmaster: don't give them too much freedom imo. most of them do not know what is best for them |
| 22:37.34 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I wasn't commenting your comment :P |
| 22:37.57 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: most of our raiders do, it pisses the pallys off i think |
| 22:38.16 | Zeksie | yeah, raiders. but you mentioned 5mans too |
| 22:39.02 | Arrowmaster | well 5 mans are a little easyer, give all dps salv, give healer wisdom, give tank kings |
| 22:39.09 | Cryect | except might is nomrally better than kings for melee :-p |
| 22:39.11 | Zeksie | it would be a mess really if we tried that, would end up with 25 slightly different combinations and the palas would end up having to buff the majority with single buffs |
| 22:39.11 | Arrowmaster | if theres only 1 pally |
| 22:39.48 | Arrowmaster | Zeksie: well i didnt mean use everybody preferences but use it to get the majority settings |
| 22:40.04 | Zeksie | well, that's basically what it does when you tell it the class roles |
| 22:40.18 | Zeksie | the majority will get class buff, and the rest will get any exceptions that will fit |
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| 22:45.45 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA9txda3FdM |
| 22:46.24 | Fisker- | Chompers |
| 22:46.27 | Fisker- | WE DID TI |
| 22:46.28 | Fisker- | IT |
| 22:46.30 | Zeksie | I need a less sucky icon.. |
| 22:46.31 | Fisker- | KILLED ONYXIA RAWR |
| 22:46.54 | Fisker- | that game looks sweet Antiarc ! |
| 22:46.56 | Fisker- | really! |
| 22:47.16 | Fisker- | pukes |
| 22:47.49 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r65037 10PitBull/TotemTimers/ (PitBull_TotemTimers.toc TotemTimers.lua): |
| 22:47.49 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
| 22:47.49 | CIA-9 | - TotemTimers: added koKR locale |
| 22:48.18 | NivFreak | We have a prot warrior / destro lock / holy pally in guild that 3man ony every reset for gold |
| 22:48.31 | NivFreak | apparently she's a bit buggy now days... |
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| 22:49.21 | Fisker- | works fine here |
| 22:49.25 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.34 | Fisker- | also she deep breathes less |
| 22:49.39 | NivFreak | she evades her health back up for them 20-60% each time |
| 22:50.20 | Fisker- | obviously not every time |
| 22:50.41 | Fisker- | also they probably exploit then |
| 22:50.49 | NeoTron | Antiarc: wtf is that? heh |
| 22:50.57 | Antiarc | Hell if I know |
| 22:51.14 | Fisker- | the game should feel bad about itself |
| 22:51.17 | NivFreak | Fisker-: nah, they don't |
| 22:51.18 | Sapiens|Work | we have the same problem doing onyxia, evading and wacked out anims/positioning |
| 22:51.23 | Sapiens|Work | i thought blizzard acknowledged that bug |
| 22:51.28 | Fisker- | ahuh NivFreak |
| 22:51.30 | NivFreak | Sapiens|Work: they did |
| 22:51.33 | Fisker- | else it wouldn't be evading :O |
| 22:51.39 | NivFreak | Fisker-: it's a known issue |
| 22:51.46 | Fisker- | Unknown to us though |
| 22:51.47 | NivFreak | wowinsider did an article about her bugs in fact |
| 22:51.50 | Fisker- | Never seen her evade |
| 22:51.55 | Fisker- | never evar |
| 22:51.56 | Yssaril | as long as you stay away from the wall she shouldn't evade (though sometimes she does anyways :P) |
| 22:52.04 | NivFreak | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/03/11/onyxia-bugged-at-70/ |
| 22:53.15 | Fisker- | we can kill archimonde AND onyxia |
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| 22:53.18 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:53.22 | NivFreak | they still kill her |
| 22:53.24 | Cryect | at the same time? |
| 22:53.24 | NivFreak | they just do a lot more dmg |
| 22:53.29 | Fisker- | and the "walking around the whelp cave"-bug was fixed a while ago |
| 22:53.47 | Snago | wtb Prat module that handles s/whatevre/whatever/ |
| 22:53.53 | Fisker- | sure Cryect |
| 22:54.04 | NivFreak | it's funny to see you violently defend blizzard |
| 22:54.10 | NivFreak | no bugs in wow! |
| 22:54.12 | Fisker- | i'll be sure to send down a team of expert(moneywhores) to onyxia on our next archimonde raid |
| 22:54.20 | Fisker- | I'm not saying that |
| 22:54.31 | Fisker- | I'm saying we obviously just did her, and have been doing so for quite some time |
| 22:54.35 | Fisker- | haven't had her evade |
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| 22:56.30 | NivFreak | We were screwing around in MC the other day, and Magmadar feared our tank through a wall |
| 22:56.33 | NivFreak | and then chased him through it |
| 22:56.37 | NivFreak | and evaded full |
| 22:56.39 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 22:56.48 | NivFreak | luckily the next fear got him back out |
| 22:56.57 | NeoTron | hot |
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| 22:57.19 | NivFreak | We went back to Baren to make people practice running away with the bomb |
| 22:57.23 | NivFreak | because they are retarded |
| 22:57.28 | NivFreak | baron |
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| 22:58.03 | NivFreak | bigwigs flash and shake is now required guild wide |
| 22:58.10 | NivFreak | due to mass solarian falure |
| 22:58.12 | NivFreak | failure |
| 22:58.13 | NivFreak | heh |
| 22:58.22 | Gelo | omg :P |
| 22:58.25 | NivFreak | I know |
| 22:58.26 | NivFreak | it was sad |
| 22:58.34 | Gelo | I hate the shake / flash feature with a passion |
| 22:58.43 | NivFreak | well, it's simple enough |
| 22:58.46 | NivFreak | if you don't turn it on |
| 22:58.49 | NivFreak | I don't care |
| 22:58.51 | Antiarc | I love flash/shake |
| 22:58.53 | NivFreak | but if you die to anything |
| 22:58.55 | Antiarc | It saves my ass when I zone out. |
| 22:58.56 | NivFreak | you're a fucking idiot |
| 22:59.06 | Yssaril | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04 |
| 22:59.16 | NivFreak | heh |
| 22:59.36 | Gelo | I can't see anything on the screen when it shakes.. |
| 22:59.51 | Yssaril | open ur eyes :P |
| 22:59.54 | NivFreak | just turn of shake then |
| 22:59.56 | NivFreak | and leave flash on |
| 23:00.01 | NivFreak | off even |
| 23:00.02 | NivFreak | christ |
| 23:00.22 | Gelo | flash isn't that annoying on 1680x1050 now but at 1024x768 it was heh |
| 23:00.35 | nevcairiel | haha Yssaril, thats so damn old .. but still funny |
| 23:00.39 | Yssaril | gelo go get http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html#info instead :P |
| 23:00.44 | Funkeh` | flash is more reliable |
| 23:00.46 | Gelo | PERFECT! |
| 23:00.47 | Funkeh` | shake can fail |
| 23:00.49 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: yep the good ole days :P |
| 23:00.54 | Funkeh` | if people have nameplates on |
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| 23:06.15 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r65039 10/branches/ZanziBar/: ZanziBar: Initial dir |
| 23:06.24 | NivFreak | bleh, same 3 drops from al'ar two weeks in a row |
| 23:06.25 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r65040 10ZanziBar/: ZanziBar: Initial dir |
| 23:07.51 | Primer | seems that the rampage battlegroup servers all the ones that are still down |
| 23:08.12 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r65041 10ZanziBar/ (Core.lua Libs/ ZanziBar.toc): ZanziBar: checking of Moddingtons code |
| 23:08.33 | Primer | s/all/are/ |
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| 23:13.17 | Snago | oohh.. ZanziBar :) |
| 23:13.18 | ZealotOnAStick | servers still down? |
| 23:13.37 | Snago | Gonna have to check that out tomorrow and have a look :) |
| 23:13.46 | Snago | But first, sleep! |
| 23:13.48 | Snago | nn |
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| 23:15.36 | JJSheets | What're the functions to get and set the ui scale? |
| 23:15.54 | ckknight | SetCVar("uiscale", num) |
| 23:16.01 | Tuller | muffins |
| 23:16.10 | Gelo | and GetCVar |
| 23:16.13 | Gelo | I tihnk |
| 23:16.20 | ckknight | Tuller: gimmeh |
| 23:16.35 | Tuller | alternatively, girl scout cookies |
| 23:16.39 | Gelo | Apple Muffins... grawrwrwrwrwrrw |
| 23:16.43 | JJSheets | thanks. BTW, ckknight, I'm getting multiline editboxes to work in LibRockConfig, will send a diff when done and tested. |
| 23:16.54 | ckknight | srsly? |
| 23:16.56 | ckknight | I was gonna |
| 23:16.59 | ckknight | meany |
| 23:17.04 | JJSheets | I'm about done too. :) |
| 23:17.09 | ckknight | okay, I haven't started |
| 23:17.19 | ckknight | I'll be happy to accept a patchc |
| 23:17.21 | ckknight | patch* |
| 23:17.27 | Tuller | write an implementation, then duel them to the death |
| 23:17.33 | ckknight | nah |
| 23:18.02 | JJSheets | lol Not sure if you'll like it, but it'll be the meat of the system. As I'm writing it, changing text calls the set function on multilines. This can be easily changed to OnChange, or use a set of buttons or whatever. |
| 23:19.39 | ckknight | yea, it shouldn't call set, but not sure the best way to do that |
| 23:19.40 | ckknight | damn |
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| 23:20.16 | JJSheets | if not set, then a couple buttons, one sez save, one sez revert. something like that. |
| 23:20.30 | JJSheets | have the save button call set, etc. |
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| 23:24.01 | ckknight | could work... |
| 23:24.32 | ckknight | multiline's important for me cause I'm planning on having multi-line dogtags |
| 23:24.50 | JJSheets | I need it for easy embedded macro editing. |
| 23:25.29 | JJSheets | The way I'm writing it makes it resize the control to fit the text. |
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| 23:27.37 | ckknight | cool, that was my thought as well |
| 23:27.53 | ckknight | like possibly start off at 2-3 lines, if you press enter, it could get bigger |
| 23:27.58 | ckknight | better than dealing with scrolling |
| 23:28.09 | JJSheets | not to mention, you already have scrolling. :) |
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| 23:28.26 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:28.46 | Zeksie | WTB new wow ability... have 2 talents sets and the ability to switch between them, with say a 2 hour cooldown. |
| 23:28.57 | Tuller | http://infetu.com/oommui2.jpg |
| 23:29.04 | JJSheets | good luck Zeksie |
| 23:29.14 | Zeksie | just wishful thinking. |
| 23:29.18 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:29.35 | ckknight | to be honest, that would be really good |
| 23:29.41 | ckknight | Zeksie: I love it |
| 23:29.52 | JJSheets | It is a good idea. |
| 23:30.05 | Gngsk | I like the way it is now, with the 50g cooldown |
| 23:30.26 | ckknight | I'd prefer to switch between, say, PvP and PvE spec without getting fucked over |
| 23:30.45 | JJSheets | lol 50g cooldown. |
| 23:31.12 | Chompers | Zeksie: if only |
| 23:31.18 | Chompers | pve and pvp |
| 23:31.35 | kenlyric | can earn 50g faster than 2 hours |
| 23:31.57 | Xinhuan | its more like 60g after you retrain the talent spells |
| 23:32.22 | kenlyric | well, not anymore |
| 23:32.32 | kenlyric | fixed in 2.4, right? |
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| 23:33.14 | Diao | they should just have a fixed payment |
| 23:33.18 | Diao | that lets you respec as often as you like |
| 23:33.20 | Diao | kind of like epic mount |
| 23:33.30 | Diao | for people who play classes that have to respec often (ie warrior) |
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| 23:33.39 | kenlyric | that's the 3.0 gold sink :) |
| 23:33.40 | JCinDE | Evening! |
| 23:33.51 | Diao | 3.0? |
| 23:34.16 | Diao | cause i'd pay 5k gold upfront |
| 23:34.19 | Diao | for free respecs forever |
| 23:34.27 | Diao | i've respecced way over 100 times already |
| 23:34.35 | JCinDE | Some guildies have been hacked and the paranoia is starting to spread. Has anyone heard any indication that WAU has been compromised? |
| 23:34.35 | Xinhuan | old school everquest players will tell you to suck it up |
| 23:34.38 | ben__ | That would kind of defeat the purpose |
| 23:34.41 | Xinhuan | there is NO respeccing in most other games |
| 23:34.50 | ben__ | JCinDE: The source is available, check yourself. |
| 23:35.01 | Diao | Xinhuan: i've played most others and never knew about respec when i first played wow |
| 23:35.02 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: that's why those gamed sucked balls and nobody played them. |
| 23:35.13 | Tuller | so, someone should implement the tiger from no more heroes as some sort of power/timer bar |
| 23:35.15 | Diao | but other games don't have a "pvp" spec and "pve" spec |
| 23:35.22 | exor674 | mmm, I can has bug! |
| 23:35.22 | Diao | they focus on one or the other |
| 23:35.24 | Diao | not both |
| 23:35.25 | JCinDE | Fair enough. But what about the ads it displays? |
| 23:35.25 | exor674 | Summoning Disorentation, duration 23 days |
| 23:37.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Xinhuan: Unless it's changed since I last looked at it, WHO has different "spec" trees that people can switch between, with one being a primary with the most points, another secondary, and even I think a Tertiary. |
| 23:37.12 | ben__ | So hi, I am on an internet with all ports but 443, 80, 84 and 3690 blocked. Any idea how I could access WoW? |
| 23:37.17 | ZealotOnAStick | and their abilities change according to which they're in right now. |
| 23:37.27 | ZealotOnAStick | and I can name at least a few other games that allow respecs. |
| 23:37.28 | Xinhuan | note i said "most other games" |
| 23:37.38 | Diao | but yes |
| 23:38.37 | exor674 | ben__: http tunnel! |
| 23:39.02 | ZealotOnAStick | I suggested back in beta that players be allowed to set up two talent and gear sets that they can switch between, similar to how it is in Diablo II. |
| 23:39.20 | ben__ | exor674: How do I set one up? Are there are packages? |
| 23:39.23 | Diao | ZealotOnAStick: what if you want a 3rd spec |
| 23:40.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Then yoou pay. |
| 23:40.16 | ZealotOnAStick | s/yoou/you |
| 23:40.52 | Chompers | pay for them, like bag slots |
| 23:40.52 | ZealotOnAStick | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.58 | exor674 | no idea |
| 23:41.03 | exor674 | I've never had to do it |
| 23:41.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Two period. PvE spec, PvP spec (or Instance spec and Farming spec, whatever) |
| 23:41.39 | Chompers | what about druids, they have lots of various pve builds |
| 23:41.43 | Diao | yeah |
| 23:41.49 | Diao | warriors have a pve tank, pve dps, pvp spec |
| 23:41.51 | Diao | :\ |
| 23:41.58 | Diao | i respec anywhere from 2-10 times per week |
| 23:42.05 | JJSheets | ckknight, you want my patch as it stands now, or do you want me to go the distance and code up the buttons too? |
| 23:42.12 | Xinhuan | how about no. |
| 23:42.15 | Xinhuan | 50g is fine |
| 23:42.19 | Gelo | Diao, you mad .D |
| 23:42.28 | Xinhuan | takes all of 30 minutes to do 4 dailies worth 50g |
| 23:42.29 | Gelo | omg, one eyed smiley! |
| 23:42.35 | Xinhuan | dont' even need to kill anything |
| 23:42.38 | Xinhuan | to bomb some eggs |
| 23:42.43 | Xinhuan | or do a memory game |
| 23:42.45 | Diao | yeah |
| 23:42.47 | Xinhuan | or capture some rays |
| 23:42.49 | Gelo | I do dailys with prot spec |
| 23:42.56 | Gelo | it's fun |
| 23:42.56 | Diao | and then there's people like me who respec multiple times a week |
| 23:43.01 | Diao | and spend more than i get from dailies on it |
| 23:43.06 | Diao | and don't have the time to do every daily every day |
| 23:43.10 | kenlyric | capturing rays takes near-killing |
| 23:43.20 | Gelo | No point respeccing all the time, you spec once for arena :) |
| 23:43.26 | kenlyric | but yeah, booterang, memory, two bombing, no killing |
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| 23:43.34 | Xinhuan | 15 cargo |
| 23:43.34 | Diao | Gelo unfortunately i have teams that play at different times during the week |
| 23:43.37 | Xinhuan | is easy too |
| 23:43.40 | Diao | some play earlier, some play later |
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| 23:43.42 | Diao | and i have to raid in between |
| 23:43.46 | Gelo | Diao, ousch! |
| 23:43.54 | Diao | which means i get to spec for pvp, spec for raid, spec for pvp again, spec for raid again, etc etc |
| 23:43.54 | kenlyric | 15 cargo requires killing things too |
| 23:43.55 | Xinhuan | and if you're smart, you would do dailies together in a group |
| 23:43.57 | Xinhuan | of 2 or 3 ppl |
| 23:43.57 | kenlyric | fucking snakes |
| 23:43.58 | Diao | and i'm the MT |
| 23:43.59 | mort | leave the teams with the lowest ratings ;) |
| 23:44.05 | Xinhuan | in your own guild, you generally have 2 or 3 best friends |
| 23:44.07 | Diao | which means i absolutely have to respec prot for raids |
| 23:44.13 | Xinhuan | buddy up and do group dailies |
| 23:44.21 | kenlyric | lfg dailies. *chirp chirp chirp* |
| 23:44.24 | Gngsk | Diao, price you pay for being the most OP class in the game |
| 23:44.41 | Gelo | Diao, say "I R DPS" lol |
| 23:44.44 | Diao | lol op |
| 23:44.45 | mort | or reroll resto druid, no need to respec ;) |
| 23:44.49 | Diao | that's funny Gngsk :P |
| 23:44.54 | kenlyric | three people banishing demons, and they'd rather fight over it and with the other faction. |
| 23:44.57 | kenlyric | people are fail. |
| 23:44.57 | Diao | resto druids have different pve and pvp specs even for resto :\ |
| 23:44.58 | Gelo | Me (#2 tank) and our MT said we should do that one week |
| 23:45.09 | ckknight | JJSheets: I say go with the buttons |
| 23:45.13 | mort | 13/0/48 is viable for both |
| 23:45.20 | JJSheets | k |
| 23:45.24 | Diao | viable but not nearly as good as 1x/11/3x for pvp |
| 23:45.25 | mort | 8/11/42 too |
| 23:45.30 | Diao | and 1/0/61 for pvp |
| 23:45.41 | mort | 1/0/60 ist just idiotic |
| 23:45.53 | Gelo | pshhh.. i play with 41/41/41 |
| 23:46.19 | Diao | er 1/0/60* |
| 23:46.31 | Antiarc | Woot woot. Got our Illidan kill video done. http://www.vimeo.com/799264 |
| 23:46.45 | mort | you do not need 60 points in restoration for pve, never ever |
| 23:46.59 | Diao | in either case |
| 23:47.04 | kenlyric | maybe not need, but where else would you spend them? |
| 23:47.05 | Diao | 1x/11/3x is superior for pvp by far |
| 23:47.18 | Diao | feral charge makes a huge difference |
| 23:47.19 | mort | throw the rest in balance |
| 23:47.35 | kenlyric | in balance for what? |
| 23:47.37 | Diao | don't raiding specs generally not get furor anyway |
| 23:47.42 | kenlyric | going to root people in instances? |
| 23:48.01 | mort | insect swarm on ros phase1 and archimonde phase2 jsut for the heck of it |
| 23:48.05 | mort | and i root in za |
| 23:48.20 | mort | 5 points for lower casting on ht is far more useless |
| 23:48.36 | Diao | or like natural perfection |
| 23:48.40 | Diao | pretty sure nobody gets that for pve |
| 23:48.43 | Diao | but it's required for pvp |
| 23:50.00 | mort | natural perfection has more uses in pve than naturalist/tranquil spirit/imp tranq etc., and you the points anyway |
| 23:50.08 | Diao | it has uses in pve? |
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| 23:50.42 | mort | 3% extra crit on regrowth, yes it's not much ;) |
| 23:50.47 | kenlyric | must be nice to have those kind of choices. |
| 23:51.08 | Diao | in any case |
| 23:51.19 | Diao | at least you can spec one spec and be semi-viable in both |
| 23:51.27 | Diao | for warriors it's "lolprot" "lolfury" |
| 23:51.46 | mort | i love 13/0/48 it's perfect for my plazstyle in pve and pvp |
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| 23:51.59 | mort | i really don't miss feral charge |
| 23:52.38 | Diao | extra spell interrupt/root on a 15s cd, also useful for getting away from people chasing you |
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| 23:53.00 | Diao | seems pretty useful to me, but i tend to play a bit more offensively |
| 23:53.22 | mort | i know, but i rarely used it |
| 23:54.07 | mort | if would respec for pvp i would go for 34/0/27 |
| 23:54.44 | kenlyric | druid healing tree really does have its own kind of fail, as many of the points are invalidated by TREE |
| 23:55.22 | JoshBorke | blah, server still down |
| 23:55.33 | kenlyric | again, would still trade |
| 23:56.26 | mort | i would kill for battle res in tree form ;) |
| 23:57.25 | kenlyric | I would kill for mana regen talent in my healing tree |
| 23:57.48 | kenlyric | instead I can save mana on prayer of healing! yay! |
| 23:58.46 | ben__ | I wish they replaced the balance tree with the discipline tree |
| 23:59.03 | mort | wtb group heal |
| 23:59.29 | kenlyric | no you don't, then they'd make you spend 23 points |
| 23:59.35 | kenlyric | in balance |
| 23:59.49 | kenlyric | gift of the wild 21 points in balance. go |
