| 00:00.20 | NeoTron | whomever is doing the french localization for MM is keeping it uptodate. The German one is hopefully out of date :P |
| 00:03.47 | sag_ich_nicht | oooooooh |
| 00:03.51 | sag_ich_nicht | bad misstake |
| 00:03.52 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 00:06.06 | Cryect | heh in the case yeah where gender varies amongst the same mob name its random :-p |
| 00:08.01 | NeoTron | and frankly it's not intended to be a fully comprehensive database of all creature attributes :P |
| 00:08.09 | Cryect | pfft! |
| 00:08.12 | Cryect | no excuses! |
| 00:08.56 | NeoTron | although one point... healers are more likely to be female |
| 00:09.16 | NeoTron | for some weird reason :P |
| 00:10.47 | [SW]Dodge | how can i put a frame befor another frame if they are on the same FrameStrata? |
| 00:11.52 | chiper | healing is less intensive, especially if you use healbot or some other clickcaster |
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| 00:12.11 | chiper | oh, you're talking about mob sex |
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| 00:15.44 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 072.4config * r93dd71f944 10TourGuide/ (Config.lua TourGuide.toc): Add "About" panel, some TOC metadata |
| 00:15.47 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 072.4config * r6e8a9ce72b 10TourGuide/tekKonfig/ (5 files): Upgrade tekKonfig |
| 00:17.59 | CIA-9 | 03gagorian * r64785 10ItemValue_DrDamage/CasterSet.lua: |
| 00:17.59 | CIA-9 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 00:17.59 | CIA-9 | - Modified due to changes to DrDamage caster module |
| 00:19.06 | Zeksie | Tekkub: SmoothQuest\SmoothQuest.lua:1: Usage: EmbedLibrary(addon, libname, silent, offset): 'libname' - Cannot find a library instance of "LibSink-2.0". |
| 00:19.17 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64786 10CoolDownButtons/core.lua: CoolDownButtons: fixed frame strata for text that it is displayed correct if it overlays the button :) |
| 00:19.32 | Tekkub | uh... right... |
| 00:20.58 | CIA-9 | 03darkclaw * r64787 10FuBar_AtlasFu/ (. Readme.html Readme.rtf): |
| 00:20.58 | CIA-9 | FuBar_AtlasFu: |
| 00:20.58 | CIA-9 | - Changed Readme to html from rtf |
| 00:21.32 | Kemayo | Zeksie: You probably meant to direct that to [Ammo]. |
| 00:21.58 | Kemayo | Though I admit it's tempting to blame Tekkub for everything |
| 00:22.03 | Zeksie | shrug.. looked at authors in toc file>< |
| 00:22.08 | dylanm | It's so easy to do. |
| 00:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart [Ammo] |
| 00:22.55 | purl | executes killall -HUP [Ammo] |
| 00:22.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Tekkub |
| 00:22.59 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Tekkub |
| 00:23.04 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Zeksie |
| 00:23.04 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after Zeksie's head |
| 00:25.38 | CIA-9 | 03jjsheets * r64788 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_Bar.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Changed the GUI Option for Locking a button group's contents to use a checkbox, allowing one to unlock the group at once as well. |
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| 00:33.58 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64789 10FuBar_MagicMarker/MMFu.lua: FuBar_MagicMarker: Plugged in some of the MM options into the MMFu menu. |
| 00:34.41 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64790 10MagicMarker/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MagicMarker: Some changes to allow MMFu to config more MM options. |
| 00:35.12 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:35.15 | kergoth | just got my first epic flyer ever |
| 00:35.22 | [dRaCo] | congratz |
| 00:38.10 | Diao | grats |
| 00:38.19 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 072.4config * r4a92fd614c 10ControlFreak/ (Config.lua ControlFreak.toc): Add "About" panel and TOC metadata |
| 00:38.20 | CIA-9 | ControlFreak: 03tekkub 072.4config * rb905899fb3 10ControlFreak/tekKonfig/ (5 files): Upgrade tekKonfig |
| 00:39.02 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 072.4config * r79aa164a6c 10StealYourCarbon/tekKonfig/ (5 files): Upgrade tekKonfig |
| 00:39.09 | CIA-9 | StealYourCarbon: 03tekkub 072.4config * r60630dbb07 10StealYourCarbon/ (Config.lua StealYourCarbon.toc): Add "About" panel, TOC metadata |
| 00:39.37 | CIA-9 | Squeenix: 03tekkub 072.4config * r563d0de748 10Squeenix/tekKonfig/ (tekKonfig.xml tekKonfigAboutPanel.lua): Upgrade tekKonfig |
| 00:39.37 | CIA-9 | Squeenix: 03tekkub 072.4config * r72c779450c 10Squeenix/ (Config.lua Squeenix.toc): Add "About" panel, TOC metadata |
| 00:44.36 | Zynderps | I'm just ... 3700g away from that |
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| 00:50.09 | Xinhuan | wow Tekkub addons has configs now? ;p |
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| 00:50.22 | Tekkub | some do |
| 00:54.22 | Gagorian | lua> string.gsub("232,23", ",", ".") |
| 00:54.23 | lua_bot | Gagorian: 232.23, 1 |
| 00:54.42 | Gagorian | Any better way of converting , -> . |
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| 01:01.26 | WobWork | what's wrong with that method? |
| 01:01.35 | Gagorian | Nothing! |
| 01:02.04 | Gagorian | string.format is probably more complex, but it's always worth to explore options |
| 01:02.27 | WobWork | string.format will probably be more precise |
| 01:02.33 | WobWork | but it depends on your situations |
| 01:02.42 | [dRaCo] | there's nothing like printf in lua, is it? |
| 01:04.16 | keiss | string.format |
| 01:04.24 | Zeksie | and dump the return value |
| 01:05.17 | Gagorian | hmmmm what does the regex \. do in lua? |
| 01:05.29 | Xinhuan | matches a . |
| 01:05.37 | Gagorian | It matches a comma as well |
| 01:05.44 | Gagorian | Strangely enough |
| 01:05.49 | Xinhuan | to be more specific, it matches anything :) |
| 01:05.57 | Xinhuan | a . represents 1 character |
| 01:05.57 | Gagorian | Yes, it's not a valid escape |
| 01:06.00 | Cryect | \. should match tons of stuff |
| 01:06.03 | Cryect | % |
| 01:06.06 | Cryect | is the escape character |
| 01:06.07 | Cryect | not \ |
| 01:06.07 | Gagorian | Yup |
| 01:06.18 | Cryect | and there is no regex in lua |
| 01:06.20 | Gagorian | I know, but it seems to be limited to one char with \. |
| 01:06.28 | Cryect | because the lua compiler |
| 01:06.35 | Cryect | looks at \ as special |
| 01:06.40 | Cryect | for adding things like \n |
| 01:06.47 | Cryect | or \t |
| 01:06.57 | Xinhuan | its not, basically \. is reduced to . and . matches 1 character (any character) |
| 01:07.08 | Gagorian | Myes, that's what I figured |
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| 01:11.59 | p3lim | can anyone say an addon that runs on LibCooldown-1.0?? |
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| 01:19.14 | Gngsk | KiC, Avion? |
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| 01:22.28 | Funkeh` | lua> string.format("%02x%02x%02x", 255, 255, 255) |
| 01:22.28 | lua_bot | Funkeh`: ffffff |
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| 01:26.07 | CIA-9 | 03gagorian * r64791 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 01:26.07 | CIA-9 | DrDamage: |
| 01:26.07 | CIA-9 | - Now properly reads weapon speeds in locales with a comma as decimal sign |
| 01:27.05 | Funkeh` | ... |
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| 01:31.18 | Rayden | who should tank what on nalorakk with a druid and a warrior? |
| 01:31.55 | p3lim | its just one boss |
| 01:31.55 | Gngsk | whichever one has better gear should do the bear form prolly, since it has the silence |
| 01:31.58 | p3lim | no adds, nothing |
| 01:33.11 | p3lim | you need both tanks on him cause of his swipe ability |
| 01:33.16 | p3lim | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=23576 |
| 01:33.17 | p3lim | read |
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| 01:35.51 | Rayden | yeah but one needs aggro |
| 01:35.53 | Rayden | and you have to swap |
| 01:37.30 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * r424985bf61 10TourGuide/TourGuide_Alliance/ (4 files): Cleanup ally early-30 guides a bit |
| 01:37.41 | Diao | hey |
| 01:37.47 | Diao | is there a way with prat or any other chat addon |
| 01:37.49 | Diao | to add new shortcuts |
| 01:37.59 | Diao | like /g for /guild, /o for /officer, /s for /say |
| 01:38.00 | Jaxon | Lookup Aliases |
| 01:38.09 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:38.11 | Diao | with aliases |
| 01:38.13 | Diao | can i do stuff like |
| 01:38.18 | Jaxon | Prat does Aliases |
| 01:38.25 | Diao | /tr for /2 |
| 01:38.29 | Diao | for trade chat |
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| 01:40.33 | Diao | oh yeah it does |
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| 01:40.36 | Diao | thanks Jaxon |
| 01:42.24 | [SW]Dodge | repeat-until is the same as a do-while loop or? |
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| 01:42.34 | Jaxon | Almost. |
| 01:42.41 | [SW]Dodge | ok |
| 01:43.09 | Jaxon | In that do-while will check the conditional before the loop and repeat-until will check it at the end. |
| 01:43.22 | xlvii | is there an addon like mrplow for guild banks? |
| 01:43.54 | Gngsk | xlvii, kemayo made one that's like mrplow not sure if it todes guild banks though |
| 01:44.25 | [SW]Dodge | i meant a do-while loop like in c/c++ and that runs at least 1 time and then check the condition |
| 01:45.20 | Cryect | yes they are the same |
| 01:45.25 | WobWork | xlvii: not afaik |
| 01:45.28 | WobWork | cause guildbanks are horrible |
| 01:45.33 | WobWork | horrible horrible horrible |
| 01:45.42 | WobWork | (PS Horrible) |
| 01:45.55 | Xinhuan | depends on language ;p |
| 01:46.32 | xlvii | would it be possible to change mrplow in order to sort the guild bank? :P |
| 01:46.53 | WobWork | not reliably |
| 01:46.53 | Xinhuan | soem languages have a "while (cond) do {blah}" and "do {blah} while (cond)" ;p |
| 01:47.07 | WobWork | since we have no way of determining if an item is on the cursor or not |
| 01:47.16 | WobWork | nor in fact if that item is still in the bank |
| 01:48.32 | xlvii | well, that sucks then :P |
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| 01:55.04 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: im 0 for 2 tonight on soulshatter resists on bosses in BT, and both times my threat was still reduced in threat-1.0 |
| 01:57.36 | [SW]Dodge | gn8 all |
| 02:12.54 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, i dont think he cares ;p |
| 02:13.04 | Xinhuan | Omen is deprecated within 2 weeks |
| 02:13.11 | Xinhuan | Threat-1.0 that is |
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| 02:13.56 | Arrowmaster | its a bug |
| 02:14.01 | Arrowmaster | bugs must be squashed! |
| 02:14.10 | Cryect | then you can squash it! :-p |
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| 02:19.55 | kenlyric | 2 weeks? |
| 02:23.05 | ulic | I think he's guestimating that 2.4 will be out then. |
| 02:23.14 | Gngsk | tea |
| 02:23.16 | Gngsk | *yea |
| 02:23.28 | ulic | I think more like 3-4 at least, but who knows. |
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| 02:27.24 | kenlyric | I was gonna be sarcastic there, but I thought maybe I missed some news so I held back. |
| 02:27.45 | kenlyric | always trust your e-instincts |
| 02:29.50 | Gngsk | <@Cairenn> week after next is what's been chirped into my ears |
| 02:29.55 | Gngsk | she has ways! |
| 02:34.24 | theoddone33 | pisses me off so much |
| 02:34.35 | theoddone33 | blizzard still hasn't made these mag'har in hellfire pvp flagged |
| 02:34.49 | theoddone33 | the quest givers |
| 02:38.05 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 02:38.25 | Arrowmaster | oh you mean people on pve servers can kill the quest givers without getting flagged? |
| 02:40.09 | Antiar1 | Illidan down. |
| 02:40.34 | Arrowmaster | grats bastard |
| 02:40.54 | Arrowmaster | were having a bad week and wont get many attempts on him tomorrow (if any) |
| 02:41.56 | Aeyan | Revenge for the Totemic Staff that you can get from those Mag'har guys |
| 02:42.06 | Aeyan | Which has NO Alliance equivilent, heh |
| 02:42.25 | Aeyan | *equivalent |
| 02:42.38 | Arrowmaster | totemic staff? |
| 02:43.29 | Aeyan | Just responding to theoddone33's complaint |
| 02:44.05 | Aeyan | Alliance get this staff for damage casters in a Hellfire quest - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29910 |
| 02:44.19 | Aeyan | Horde get that, plus this - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25494 |
| 02:44.39 | Aeyan | One of these two is not like the other =P |
| 02:44.53 | Jaxon | Yeah, too bad about those level 65 green quest rewards |
| 02:44.55 | Jaxon | That completely sucks. |
| 02:45.39 | Aeyan | That's an old grudge I've had since TBC opening, hehe |
| 02:47.23 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 02:47.35 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt have known since i didnt replace any gear till lvl 70 |
| 02:53.20 | kenlyric | you need an alt |
| 02:53.35 | kenlyric | take someone into hellfire with mid 50s quest greens and it's a glorious upgrade time |
| 02:53.40 | Groktar | hehe |
| 02:53.48 | Groktar | i just pugged gruuls and ninjad the DST |
| 02:54.04 | Diao | ninjaed o_O |
| 02:54.23 | Jaxon | Thats pretty douche-riffic. |
| 02:55.41 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric: i have an alt |
| 02:56.15 | Arrowmaster | i took my 58 rogue into hellfire and started bitching that i couldnt kill shit because i wasnt even wearing 50s quest greens |
| 02:56.49 | Diao | lol |
| 02:56.55 | Diao | yeah i tend not to upgrade my gear |
| 02:56.56 | Diao | until 70 |
| 02:56.57 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r64792 10ZOMGBuffs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:56.57 | CIA-9 | ZOMGBuffs |
| 02:56.57 | CIA-9 | - Improved detection of PallyPower users. |
| 02:56.57 | CIA-9 | - Fixed some Template Generation problems with certain talent mixes. Should solve the problem of someone ending up with a blank assignment. |
| 02:56.57 | CIA-9 | - Single exceptions are now assigned to paladins with improved versions where possible. |
| 02:56.57 | Jaxon | I would've gone in at 60 when the level advantage is more my favor. |
| 02:56.58 | Diao | on any character |
| 02:57.18 | Diao | at 70 my warrior was wearing level 60 greens and instance gears |
| 02:57.40 | kenlyric | and why? |
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| 02:57.57 | kenlyric | would you ever have level 60 greens? |
| 02:58.01 | kenlyric | that shit is like silithus |
| 02:58.20 | kenlyric | silithus is like ravenholm |
| 03:01.10 | Arrowmaster | oh i didnt upgrade my gear on my warlock until 70 because there werent any upgrades, i started tbc as the best geared lock on my server |
| 03:02.20 | Groktar | best geared lock didn't mean much on my server |
| 03:02.26 | Groktar | gothik died maybe once |
| 03:02.31 | Groktar | nobody killed 4h |
| 03:02.45 | kenlyric | are you from Kargath too? |
| 03:02.50 | Groktar | daggerspine |
| 03:03.07 | Gngsk | you'd be surprised how many realms had that same kinda progression pre-tbc |
| 03:03.26 | kenlyric | yeah, like only 150 guilds killed kel |
| 03:03.28 | Groktar | i just wish they'd waited two more months |
| 03:03.36 | kenlyric | what's illidan up to, 800? |
| 03:03.37 | Arrowmaster | i was the best geared lock on my server but i didnt have anything from naxx or aq40 |
| 03:03.37 | Groktar | a lot of guilds were getting close |
| 03:03.58 | Arrowmaster | there were guilds that did naxx and aq40 but all their warlocks were scrubs |
| 03:04.05 | kenlyric | oh well, maybe they'll do the same thing to kil |
| 03:04.16 | Kalroth | kenlyric: 800? much higher |
| 03:04.16 | Groktar | i don't think so |
| 03:04.22 | Groktar | sunwell isn't so massive |
| 03:04.30 | kenlyric | two months on live, bam, 3.0 infoz |
| 03:04.39 | Gngsk | they could just make a cockblock though |
| 03:04.39 | Groktar | nah |
| 03:05.01 | Lukian | Arrowmaster, the weapon from Ring of Blood wasn't an upgrade? |
| 03:05.10 | Arrowmaster | staff? |
| 03:05.12 | Arrowmaster | nope |
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| 03:05.23 | Groktar | tbc had been on beta realms for months before 2.0 hit ptr |
| 03:05.24 | Lukian | hmm what'd you have? |
| 03:05.25 | Arrowmaster | had hwl spellblade and av offhand |
| 03:05.28 | Kalroth | Wowjutsu counts 1837 Illidan killing guilds. Subtract 100-200 from bad data, reforming or folding guilds. |
| 03:05.42 | Lukian | That staff outdoes Benediction/Anathema for spriests |
| 03:05.45 | kenlyric | damn, that increased a lot |
| 03:05.50 | kenlyric | from when I checked last |
| 03:05.54 | Kalroth | kenlyric: that's US + EU though |
| 03:05.55 | kenlyric | still 3% |
| 03:05.58 | kenlyric | ? |
| 03:06.12 | Kalroth | Illidan Stormrage 4.58% |
| 03:06.23 | kenlyric | ho baby |
| 03:06.38 | kenlyric | 4.58% of raiders, bored to tears! |
| 03:07.09 | Kalroth | 4.58% out of 2415539 players (give or take :) |
| 03:07.28 | Arrowmaster | 2415539? |
| 03:07.32 | Arrowmaster | where did you get that? |
| 03:07.35 | Cryect | the accounts between EU & US |
| 03:07.37 | Kalroth | http://www.wowjutsu.com/world/ |
| 03:07.46 | Cryect | err characters |
| 03:07.51 | Arrowmaster | oh the accounts wowjutsu has tracked |
| 03:08.02 | Kalroth | naw, characters, not accounts |
| 03:08.32 | Arrowmaster | kinda funny since thats suppost to be 5mil accounts between us and eu |
| 03:08.33 | Kalroth | but it can be off in all kinds of ways |
| 03:08.47 | kenlyric | well, obviously a lot of people don't raid |
| 03:08.53 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster: Not everyone raids, right. |
| 03:08.56 | Kalroth | sure, that's over 50% of your players in Karazhan or higher |
| 03:08.58 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 03:08.59 | Cryect | amusing part is a lot of people don't even hit 70 |
| 03:09.06 | kergoth | ot, but a bit of advice for others like me that don't know shit about ironing clothes.. careful of the steam button. i hit it too close, the shit fucking blew all the ink off of the shirt where each of the holes blew the steam :( |
| 03:09.09 | kergoth | ruined two good shirts |
| 03:09.11 | kergoth | = noob |
| 03:09.12 | kenlyric | and you're not on there if you're not in a guild |
| 03:09.25 | kenlyric | <--- |
| 03:09.48 | Kalroth | oh and as for faction balance; Ranked Guilds:40168 / |
| 03:09.49 | Kalroth | 16725 (h) |
| 03:09.49 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.49 | Kalroth | 23443 (a) |
| 03:09.59 | Kalroth | Much hate for FF copying :( |
| 03:10.18 | Jaxon | And the paid name changes and transfers are going to completely throw out any sense of accuracy from WoWJutsu |
| 03:10.32 | Kalroth | Not completely |
| 03:10.50 | kenlyric | if more than .1% of those names have been transferred or renamed, I'll eat my hat |
| 03:10.52 | Arrowmaster | wowjutsu still does some pruning |
| 03:11.33 | Cryect | I would hope it removes characters it can't find anymore or do weird things like level drop |
| 03:12.04 | Kalroth | Cryect: Wowarmory is waaaay too unstable for that |
| 03:12.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 03:12.21 | Kalroth | Maybe after multiple attempts, but even then I'd be vary |
| 03:12.24 | Cryect | After a week of checking or so you would hope you get an idea |
| 03:13.33 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r64793 10Recount2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:13.33 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 03:13.33 | CIA-9 | -Now popups a window on list window on startup. This window can't be |
| 03:13.34 | CIA-9 | closed/minimized and can only track 1 of 4 preset filters and no resetting of |
| 03:13.34 | CIA-9 | data without a UI reload. This is a test to get opinions mainly on the new |
| 03:13.34 | CIA-9 | detail mode in Recount 2 |
| 03:14.43 | theoddone33 | why the hell can alliiance kill my questgivers without getting flagged? |
| 03:14.45 | theoddone33 | Grrrrr |
| 03:14.54 | theoddone33 | so angry |
| 03:15.15 | Cryect | because blizzard hates you |
| 03:15.25 | Cryect | and thats what you get for playing on PvE :-p |
| 03:15.29 | theoddone33 | it'd be ok if there was a single alliance questgiver anywhere I could kill without getting flagged |
| 03:15.36 | theoddone33 | because I'd go kill it a lot |
| 03:15.39 | theoddone33 | whenever I get angry |
| 03:15.48 | Cryect | you tried them all? |
| 03:15.54 | theoddone33 | nope |
| 03:16.01 | theoddone33 | I asked blizzard to direct me to one in my bug report |
| 03:16.49 | theoddone33 | because if there aren't any, that makes it a bug |
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| 03:27.22 | theoddone33 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5284854522&postId=53773257104&sid=1#0 I've turned into one of the whiny kids that I hate |
| 03:27.23 | Rayden | lynx boss is hard |
| 03:27.41 | Kemayo | xlvii: Gngsk was right -- bankstack is like MrPlow, but also handles the guild bank. |
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| 03:30.35 | Lukian | Horde players start out at unfriendly with the Mag'har. Alliance players will always be treated as hostile. The Alliance counterpart to this faction are the Kurenai. |
| 03:30.46 | Lukian | theoddone33, go kurenai hunting? :p |
| 03:31.05 | theoddone33 | it will flag me |
| 03:31.05 | Diao | you can't without getting pvp flagged |
| 03:31.07 | theoddone33 | which is the issue |
| 03:31.23 | theoddone33 | a) it would take an intern about 3 seconds to change if they have good tools, which I'm sure they do |
| 03:31.32 | theoddone33 | b) it's more an issue of principle than anything else |
| 03:31.41 | theoddone33 | so I have to assume that they don't read the bug reports, or just don't care |
| 03:31.50 | Hobby | How about the horde flight masters spawning non-elite adds? :) |
| 03:32.09 | theoddone33 | never tried to kill a flightmaster |
| 03:32.42 | Lukian | theoddone33> a) it would take an intern about 3 seconds to change if they have good tools, which I'm sure they do <- haha, in your dreams |
| 03:32.45 | Hobby | At least a few of the horde flight masters spawn NON-elite wyverns |
| 03:32.55 | theoddone33 | what? it's data driven |
| 03:33.02 | theoddone33 | they flip the "pvp enabled" flag on |
| 03:33.05 | theoddone33 | done |
| 03:33.18 | Lukian | theoddone33, you are forgetting several hundred servers |
| 03:33.27 | Lukian | and whether a state change like that is possible on the fly |
| 03:33.29 | Hobby | eh? |
| 03:33.36 | theoddone33 | I don't want it on the fly |
| 03:33.46 | theoddone33 | I want it to have been done in one of the 5 patches since I first reported it |
| 03:34.07 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r148 10/trunk/TinyTipBasic/TinyTipBasic.lua: TinyTipBasic: Fixed issue with TinyTipBasic continuing even if the tooltip is not shown (therefore causing errors, since there's no text to use). Also fixed "HideRace" format. |
| 03:34.11 | Gnarfoz | it's easily doable live, anyway |
| 03:34.22 | theoddone33 | I don't expect them to hot fix it |
| 03:34.32 | theoddone33 | it's minor anyway, just a principle thing |
| 03:35.01 | theoddone33 | and it makes me angry every time I have to waste 2 minutes waiting for those things to respawn that I could have spent relogging to one of my 70s to kick whoever did it's ass |
| 03:36.12 | Zyndrome | "We'll look into it *patch released* hurr Mag'har NPCs now have a Mortal Strike ability ... oops forgot pvp-flag!" |
| 03:36.26 | theoddone33 | hahaha |
| 03:36.30 | theoddone33 | funny because it's true |
| 03:36.37 | theoddone33 | if only irc had +rep |
| 03:37.06 | Lukian | irc has +levels if you play idlerpg :p |
| 03:37.24 | Cryect | heh Arrowmaster that you on the TTR? |
| 03:37.46 | Arrowmaster | huh? no i havent been on the TTR |
| 03:37.53 | Cryect | Oh well! |
| 03:37.59 | Cryect | There is someone named arrowmaster somewhere near me |
| 03:38.05 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r149 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Fixed self reference in a local function (/tinytip error when TinyTipOptions doesn't exist). Fixed handlers being called even when the tooltip is hidden. |
| 03:38.07 | Arrowmaster | a hunter? |
| 03:38.10 | Cryect | I hate the TTR they need to bring the PTR back up |
| 03:38.14 | Cryect | yes |
| 03:38.23 | Arrowmaster | tell them they suck |
| 03:38.28 | Cryect | but uh if someone was called arrowmaster I hope they are a hunter :-p |
| 03:38.42 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 03:38.47 | Zyndrome | seen a hunter named "Warrior" |
| 03:38.49 | Arrowmaster | well i do have a hunter named arrowmaster |
| 03:39.00 | theoddone33 | I have a lock named nelfdrood |
| 03:39.03 | Gnarfoz | that's not your main one, thought! :D |
| 03:39.11 | Gnarfoz | -t -.- |
| 03:39.18 | Gnarfoz | ~fail |
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| 03:39.42 | Arrowmaster | i hate the bastards that keep stealing my name |
| 03:39.57 | Arrowmaster | i couldnt even get Arrowmaster as my wow account name |
| 03:40.18 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:40.40 | Zeksie | is away -( sleep )- at 03:40a -( P:On / L:On )- |
| 03:41.03 | Kalroth | Cryect: http://www.wowbash.com/image-2471.html :) |
| 03:42.00 | Hobby | Anyone check the Hammerfall flight master on the PTR? |
| 03:42.41 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r64794 10Recount2/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:42.41 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 03:42.42 | CIA-9 | -Upgrades to LSM-3.0 (oh why oh why is LSM-3.0 not in its own folder so we don't have to get copies of LibStub and CallbackHandler) |
| 03:42.42 | CIA-9 | -Setups Externs |
| 03:42.43 | Cryect | haha |
| 03:43.07 | Cryect | The PTR isn't up at the moment is it? If it is I would love to get off the lousy TTR |
| 03:43.33 | Cryect | I miss my tons of combat data being generated for testing I got on the ptr :-p |
| 03:43.43 | Hobby | Not sure, I'm just hoping after a few patches they could put flight master where they're supposed to be |
| 03:43.54 | Hobby | flight masters* |
| 03:44.47 | Hobby | Oh, or update my armory page once a month or something? :) |
| 03:45.48 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r64795 10ZOMGBuffs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): ZOMGBuffs: Fixed 'state' error. |
| 03:46.51 | kenlyric | Hobby: flight masters need to get out of the rain |
| 03:46.53 | kenlyric | and hover |
| 03:47.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i thought you wanted to go to bed Zeksie? :P |
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| 04:09.22 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 04:09.22 | CIA-9 | -Fixes a bug where setting other table frames would result in the values being used for statusbar value being set on the most recently updated sort |
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| 04:24.25 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
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| 05:06.57 | Primer | !points 378 |
| 05:06.57 | Xinhuan | 378 arena points require 1531(5s), 1573(3s) and 1624(2s) team rating. |
| 05:08.12 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64797 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: Fixed comparing number with nil error. |
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| 05:13.07 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r150 10/trunk/TinyTipPositioning/ (StandAloneConfig.lua TinyTipPositioning.lua): |
| 05:13.07 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: TinyTipPositioning: Added ability to position frame and mouseover units |
| 05:13.07 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: differently in combat, which resulted in further optimization of code. Also |
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| 05:13.09 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: GameTooltipDefaultAnchor. |
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| 05:19.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten SVN to files copy is broken, fix it |
| 05:19.14 | sag_ich_nicht | also i go to bed now, night |
| 05:24.32 | Zhinjio | Do any of y'all know the word "please"? Christ. |
| 05:29.28 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: that report is fairly useless mate. There's nothing showing up on the execution log as an error. |
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| 05:58.53 | kebinusan | started using magic marker tonight, looking good neotron, I still need to try a full raid to play with some of the fancy marking options and priorities |
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| 06:03.18 | NeoTron | kebinusan: I think soon on my TODO list is "write a manual for Magic Marker" |
| 06:03.25 | NeoTron | because it's becoming rather complex |
| 06:03.37 | kebinusan | hehe yeah I noticed |
| 06:03.42 | NeoTron | however the visual view of the "raid mark cache" helps a lot i hope |
| 06:03.59 | kebinusan | I tried it once a week ago maybe and got some errors and then tried it again today and noticed all kinds of sync options and the like |
| 06:04.32 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 06:04.50 | NeoTron | tue->thu nothing happens and after that I do a lot typicall |
| 06:06.23 | kebinusan | great addon though, <3 what I see so far |
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| 06:09.44 | Primer | !points 378 |
| 06:09.44 | Xinhuan | 378 arena points require 1531(5s), 1573(3s) and 1624(2s) team rating. |
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| 06:11.21 | NeoTron | thanks |
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| 06:11.39 | NeoTron | I'm only surprised no one had already done it. been a lot of fun though |
| 06:11.45 | NeoTron | and in 2.4 it rocks ;-) |
| 06:12.47 | NeoTron | my ultimate goal is to, at least, have decent defaults for raid instances |
| 06:13.11 | NeoTron | but I won't bother with that until 2.4 since it'd be locale dependant today |
| 06:13.35 | kebinusan | what does 2.4 allow? |
| 06:14.36 | NeoTron | unique mob ID's |
| 06:14.55 | NeoTron | not only GUID's (that allow 100% accurate removal on mob death) but also the mob ID |
| 06:15.09 | NeoTron | which is a non-locale dependant ID for a mob |
| 06:15.10 | kebinusan | yeah that'll be nice |
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| 06:15.21 | NeoTron | s/mob/mob type/ |
| 06:15.39 | NeoTron | speaking of units and all - how can I identify that a unit is an enemy players pet? |
| 06:16.10 | NeoTron | magic marker currently adds enemy pets in arenas :P |
| 06:16.34 | Thrae | !api UnitPlayer |
| 06:16.34 | lua_bot | Could not find 'unitplayer' in http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 06:16.34 | WoWLuaircBot | Thrae: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitPlayer |
| 06:16.36 | NeoTron | better yet is there a way to know if you're in a BG or arena so I can avoid enabling it in the first place? |
| 06:16.42 | Thrae | !api UnitIsPlayer |
| 06:16.42 | lua_bot | Could not find 'unitisplayer' in http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 06:16.43 | WoWLuaircBot | Thrae: UnitIsPlayer(UnitId) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitIsPlayer |
| 06:16.46 | Thrae | Hmmm |
| 06:17.08 | NeoTron | Thrae: It's UnitIsPlayer |
| 06:17.11 | Thrae | NeoTron: not UnitIsPlayer(unit) and UnitIsPlayerControlled(unit) |
| 06:17.16 | NeoTron | ah |
| 06:17.17 | Thrae | Wait |
| 06:17.21 | Thrae | NeoTron: not UnitIsPlayer(unit) and UnitPlayerControlled(unit) |
| 06:17.34 | Thrae | Sometimes they use "is", sometimes not |
| 06:17.50 | NeoTron | consistency ftw |
| 06:18.02 | Thrae | NeoTron: You'll have to tell if it's friendly or not first. The best way to tell reactions is by using UnitCanAttack. Look at TinyTipBasic's code. |
| 06:19.14 | NeoTron | in fact I don't even need UnitIsPlayer |
| 06:19.24 | NeoTron | UnitPlayerControlled is true for players as well |
| 06:19.38 | Thrae | NeoTron: Hence why "not UnitIsPlayer" ... |
| 06:20.01 | NeoTron | ah but I want neither :) |
| 06:20.07 | Thrae | Ahhh |
| 06:20.08 | NeoTron | basically I only want hostile mobs |
| 06:20.25 | NeoTron | i.e: UnitExists(unit) and UnitCanAttack("player", unit) and not UnitIsDead(unit) and UnitCreatureType(unit) ~= "Critter" and not UnitaPlayerControlled(unit) |
| 06:20.39 | Thrae | NeoTron: However, UnitPlayerControlled can include MC'd NPCs |
| 06:20.43 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 06:20.44 | NeoTron | well |
| 06:20.49 | NeoTron | I suppose that is ok |
| 06:21.19 | NeoTron | you'll eventually mouse over it when it's not MC'd |
| 06:21.33 | NeoTron | I wouldn't add it when it's mc'd anyway because it wouldn't be attackable |
| 06:21.43 | Thrae | NeoTron: And UnitCanAttack("player", unit) includes neutral mobs |
| 06:21.58 | Thrae | I mean -enemy- controlled MC'd mobs |
| 06:22.18 | NeoTron | since it's primarily meant for pve instances, I just want it not to trigger in arenas |
| 06:22.31 | Thrae | Again, look at TinyTipBasic, it covers all reactions and player / npc types |
| 06:22.37 | NeoTron | neutral mobs are fine as long as they are attackable |
| 06:23.01 | NeoTron | i.e anything that is attackable and not a player or pet |
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| 06:23.39 | NeoTron | I guess I should add a list of "black listed" instances too |
| 06:23.45 | NeoTron | i.e BG's and arenas |
| 06:24.31 | vithos | and the PvP vendor instances |
| 06:24.53 | NeoTron | those shouldn't have any hostiles in them anyway |
| 06:24.59 | vithos | oh, right |
| 06:25.21 | Arrowmaster | except for infernals and doomguards its impossible for anything hostile to be in them |
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| 06:26.51 | vithos | Furious Mr. Pinchy |
| 06:27.06 | Thrae | NeoTron: local _,it = IsInInstance() if it and (it == "arena" or it == "pvp") then return end |
| 06:27.48 | Thrae | NeoTron: Returns from the function if you're in an Arena or BG ("pvp"). |
| 06:28.34 | NeoTron | well look at that |
| 06:32.26 | NeoTron | Ironically I was already using IsInInstance to determine the enable default, but didn't look at the second return value |
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| 06:36.12 | NeoTron | also places like the pvp vendor area and deeprun tram aren't considered to be instances |
| 06:39.27 | Arrowmaster | they arent? |
| 06:44.28 | NeoTron | nope |
| 06:44.36 | NeoTron | not according to IsInInstance |
| 06:45.13 | Thrae | NeoTron: Do you really need to disable for those places? |
| 06:45.32 | NeoTron | I don't disable, I enable |
| 06:45.39 | NeoTron | i.e it's disabled by default |
| 06:45.56 | NeoTron | to be exact when I mean it's disabled, it only disables the event parsing |
| 06:46.07 | NeoTron | the addon remains active but idle |
| 06:46.22 | Thrae | Right, so you want to go idle whenever you're in a PvP instance, right? |
| 06:47.13 | NeoTron | yeah. the above works fine |
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| 06:51.06 | NeoTron | I only enable the addon if I'm in an instance of type party or raid now |
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| 07:21.32 | Thrae | How big are buff / debuff textures? |
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| 07:21.54 | Thrae | 16x16 or 32x32? |
| 07:22.47 | james\ | has anyone had any problems with grid since updating in the last week or so ? |
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| 07:31.38 | Poul|Raider | Anyone that could line out for me the basics of doing a live dps calculation of a fight. what i was thinking was like dmg over the last 5sec / 5 but thers properly better ways ? |
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| 07:33.26 | Gngsk | Poul|Raider, take a look at nanostats2's dmg module in branches |
| 07:33.38 | Poul|Raider | oki |
| 07:33.44 | Poul|Raider | is it complicated? |
| 07:34.06 | Poul|Raider | aint doing a addon, just need the methods to do it, but will look in nanostats2 |
| 07:35.41 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64799 10MagicMarker/ (5 files in 2 dirs): MagicMarker: Added missing translation, fixed auto-enabling to avoid pvp instances, fixed unit eligiability to exclude all player controlled units. |
| 07:36.38 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64800 10FuBar_MagicMarker/MMFu.lua: FuBar_MagicMarker: Show raid and pvp zones as such on the tooltip. |
| 07:37.02 | Poul|Raider | can i acces the branches from the web or do i need som svn tool? |
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| 07:40.05 | NeoTron | you can access it via http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ |
| 07:40.11 | NeoTron | but that's not handy if you want to download it |
| 07:40.56 | Poul|Raider | its fine :) |
| 07:41.01 | Poul|Raider | i can acces the files i need |
| 07:41.33 | Poul|Raider | Gngsk, know what file i should look in? |
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| 07:44.31 | Poul|Raider | Gngsk, they way it do it is calc dps from the start of combat to current all the time |
| 07:46.56 | Gngsk | yep |
| 07:47.38 | Gngsk | basically just track dmg, divide dmg by combat length every second, stop when combat ends |
| 07:47.44 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 07:47.51 | Poul|Raider | but wasent what i was thinking off |
| 07:48.02 | Poul|Raider | your way it will be over the hole fight |
| 07:48.16 | Gngsk | yah, what were you thinking? |
| 07:48.24 | Poul|Raider | i want to be able to dig into a sec and see what the guys dps was at that point |
| 07:48.32 | NeoTron | you want a rolling average |
| 07:48.36 | Poul|Raider | if the dps was a liniar line |
| 07:48.39 | Poul|Raider | it would be easy |
| 07:48.55 | Poul|Raider | x*a where dps would be a |
| 07:49.12 | NeoTron | you want to take past dmg into account but the farther off, the less you take it into account esssentially |
| 07:49.28 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r64801 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (sets.cn.lua sets.tw.lua): |
| 07:49.28 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 07:49.28 | CIA-9 | - zhCN & zhTW localizations update |
| 07:50.05 | Poul|Raider | could take the dmg over the last 5sec and divide with 5 |
| 07:50.47 | Poul|Raider | but using some math it should be posible to get it down to dx |
| 07:50.59 | Poul|Raider | just cant remember, guess i just have to read up on it |
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| 08:01.33 | CIA-9 | AlarLib |
| 08:01.33 | CIA-9 | Was missing AlarFrames-3.0.xml |
| 08:02.48 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64803 10AlarBGHelper/ (5 files): |
| 08:02.48 | CIA-9 | AlarBGHelper |
| 08:02.48 | CIA-9 | Minor fixes to Titan and Fubar interface |
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| 08:32.56 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 072.4 * r64804 10Links/Links/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Links: (2.4 branch) add deDE, made handled links types configurable |
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| 08:40.27 | Mytos | whats up |
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| 08:41.13 | Mytos | has anyone noticed a bug with the pitbull 3d portrait while wearing druid t4 shoulders? |
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| 08:50.23 | theoddone33 | honored with silvermoon at level 11, heh |
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| 08:50.35 | theoddone33 | I seem to remember it taking slightly longer at one point in life |
| 08:50.45 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 08:50.50 | nevcairiel | they chaned that some time back |
| 08:50.52 | nevcairiel | its crazy now |
| 08:50.58 | theoddone33 | yup |
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| 08:51.17 | theoddone33 | still a little tough to get exalted, though |
| 08:52.19 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r151 10/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): TinyTipIcons: Initial non-working import, to stop for the night. |
| 08:52.29 | Thrae | Instead of spamming the channel, WoWLuaircBot will now default to sending its replies as a notice, unless addressed. |
| 08:52.38 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 072.4 * r64805 10Links/Links/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): Links: (2.4 branch) set Ace3 externals |
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| 08:59.16 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning |
| 08:59.28 | CIA-9 | 03jerry 072.4 * r64806 10Links/Links/locales/ (deDE.lua enUS.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua zhTW.lua): Links: (2.4 branch) update locales. |
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| 09:23.07 | Grum | Thrae: WoWLuaircBot is the one that handles lua> ? |
| 09:23.13 | Grum | lua> print("kek") |
| 09:23.13 | lua_bot | Grum: kek |
| 09:23.19 | nevcairiel | no lua_bot handles lua> |
| 09:23.19 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 09:23.23 | Grum | ah good that one should be in-channel :) |
| 09:23.43 | nevcairiel | WoWLuaircBot handles item querys and stuff |
| 09:23.51 | Grum | aah |
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| 09:28.27 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: you are one of the Ace3 Heros, am i right? |
| 09:29.15 | [SW]Dodge | i mean one of them who are developing it :) |
| 09:30.59 | nevcairiel | sure, whatever |
| 09:32.36 | [SW]Dodge | well, there i have a little problem, a "LibStub("AceConfigRegistry-3.0"):NotifyChange("CoolDown Buttons")" causes that error http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11951.msg190578#msg190578 for some people and i cant reproduce it in any way :/ |
| 09:32.50 | [SW]Dodge | the NotifyChange is called in a CHANNEL_UI_UPDATE Event |
| 09:33.05 | nevcairiel | thats fixed in the branch |
| 09:34.02 | [SW]Dodge | ok, any date when it will be merged into trunk? |
| 09:34.18 | nevcairiel | soon'ish i suppose |
| 09:34.27 | [SW]Dodge | ok |
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| 09:39.11 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r64808 10BananaDKP/type/Symphony.lua: BananaDKP: Bugfixes and added a 'bdkp status' whisper that returns the players current DKP multiplier. |
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| 09:42.57 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64809 10SmoothQuest/SmoothQuest.lua: SmoothQuest: run qwu after QLU to make sure completed quests actually get removed immediately from the questwatch instead of after the next qwu |
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| 09:52.41 | CIA-9 | 03snago * r64810 10IHML/IHML.lua: |
| 09:52.41 | CIA-9 | IHML: |
| 09:52.41 | CIA-9 | - Can now link macros so that many subzones/bosses/etc can point to the same macro so you only have to change one macro to change them all. |
| 09:53.15 | Gelo | One macro to rule them all? |
| 09:54.39 | Megalon | /equip item:8350 ? |
| 09:54.45 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64811 10/branches/MiniMapster/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:54.45 | CIA-9 | MiniMapster: work in progress |
| 09:54.45 | CIA-9 | - Square unlocked minimap with blizzy texture currently |
| 09:54.49 | Megalon | :/ |
| 09:55.29 | Arrowmaster | let me guess, [The One Ring]? |
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| 09:57.23 | Megalon | [The 1 Ring] actually, but yea ;) |
| 09:58.14 | [Ammo] | there's now also [The 2 Ring] |
| 09:59.05 | Arrowmaster | and "Not quite as good as the 2 ring" is a major understatement |
| 09:59.42 | Megalon | vastly superior to the 1 ring. :7 |
| 10:00.03 | Arrowmaster | its the 1 ring but instead of 1 to each stat its 22 to each stat |
| 10:00.48 | Megalon | i wonder what color [The 3 Ring] will have :P |
| 10:01.06 | Arrowmaster | artifact |
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| 10:01.37 | Arrowmaster | 333 to all stats, not just base stats but every possible stat in the game, the tooltip wont even be displayabe it will be so large |
| 10:02.41 | Megalon | would be awesome if blizzard would pull that off, something like andonsius, zonebound/conjured ;) |
| 10:03.00 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 10:03.07 | Arrowmaster | fish it out of the sunwell |
| 10:03.24 | Grum | [Ammo]: lol, minimapster? |
| 10:03.30 | Arrowmaster | but its zone bound, that would be great |
| 10:04.53 | nevcairiel | Grum: isnt it great? :D |
| 10:05.02 | Industrial | mini mapster? |
| 10:05.08 | Grum | i thought mapster was quite minimal already O.o |
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| 10:05.16 | nevcairiel | Grum: read the commit note :P |
| 10:05.23 | Jaxon | The commit looked like a minimap addon |
| 10:06.05 | Grum | aaah |
| 10:06.12 | Megalon | yea, make it like AQ40, a pond at the beginning where you fish the ring, and a 10minutes run to the endboss room, after which the item already despawned due to the conjured timer :P |
| 10:06.15 | Grum | ofc, i completely forgot mapster only does worldmap stuff :) |
| 10:07.17 | Grum | cool, mapster is geting a baby! ;D |
| 10:07.23 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64812 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: added option to set font color |
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| 10:17.51 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64813 10CoolDownButtons/ (config.lua core.lua): |
| 10:17.51 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 10:17.51 | CIA-9 | - it's now possible to set the Anchor x/y-positions in config screen manually and not just by moving the anchor. |
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| 10:22.59 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64814 10CoolDownButtons/ (. config.lua): CoolDownButtons: fixed config layout :) |
| 10:28.15 | Gelo | Why are addons displayed under "outdated" ? |
| 10:28.29 | Gelo | or better, when are addons considered "outdated" |
| 10:28.34 | Gngsk | toc |
| 10:29.06 | Gelo | wrong toc version? |
| 10:29.20 | Gngsk | old |
| 10:30.06 | Fisker- | harasses Gngsk |
| 10:30.08 | Gelo | yeah, "old" was what I meant. |
| 10:30.26 | Gngsk | boo |
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| 10:32.26 | Gelo | wrong button :/ |
| 10:33.08 | Gelo | they should never had made programs minimize to tray when pressing [x] |
| 10:33.19 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64815 10CoolDownButtons/ (CoolDownButtons.toc core.lua): CoolDownButtons: fixed not updating coords when moving an anchor |
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| 10:57.16 | Fisker- | !rating 1611 |
| 10:57.17 | Xinhuan | 1611 rating gives 480(5s), 422(3s) and 364(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 11:00.19 | jy | !points 500 |
| 11:00.19 | Xinhuan | 500 arena points require 1626(5s), 1674(3s) and 1734(2s) team rating. |
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| 11:02.16 | jy | !points 250 |
| 11:02.17 | Xinhuan | 250 arena points require 1073(5s), 1228(3s) and 1432(2s) team rating. |
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| 11:02.57 | Industrial | !points 1000 |
| 11:02.58 | Xinhuan | 1000 arena points require 1960(5s), 2067(3s) and 2259(2s) team rating. |
| 11:03.13 | Industrial | >_> |
| 11:03.21 | sacarasc | quite a lot |
| 11:03.28 | Industrial | need it for mah 2h axe |
| 11:03.34 | Industrial | !c eu boudlerfist seryan |
| 11:03.40 | Industrial | STFU IT IS |
| 11:03.57 | Industrial | purl, slap WoWLuaircBot |
| 11:03.57 | purl | ACTION slaps WoWLuaircBot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 11:04.41 | Industrial | http://boulderfist-eu.warcrafter.net/Seryan |
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| 11:05.58 | Industrial | hey cool warcrafter has an item upgrades search in the sandbox now |
| 11:10.40 | [SW]Dodge | ckknight: ping |
| 11:11.40 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:29] <@Kaelten> sag_ich_nicht: that report is fairly useless mate. There's nothing showing up on the execution log as an error. <--i was really tired, didn't have the time, sorry. |
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| 11:25.30 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r64816 10CoolDownButtons/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 11:25.31 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 11:25.31 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 11:29.03 | Fisker- | has sex with sag_ich_nicht |
| 11:29.32 | Fisker- | cogent still pwnt? |
| 11:31.10 | Hobby | Is kgPanels meant to replace eePanels after 2.4....eePanels no longer developed? Why the change? |
| 11:31.28 | Hobby | Or is it just an alternative? |
| 11:31.51 | JoshBorke | i believe eepanels was no longer being developed |
| 11:31.58 | JoshBorke | so kgpanels was written as an alternative |
| 11:32.04 | Hobby | ah k |
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| 11:32.47 | JoshBorke | i could be wrong though |
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| 11:49.05 | CIA-9 | MobNotes:--add zhCN/zhTW locales |
| 11:49.05 | CIA-9 | add zhCN/TW mobnames and notes in default database (rabbit, need to dump database version?) |
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| 11:52.08 | Ordog | has somebody else proplems with getting their guild on wowjutsu ? |
| 11:52.26 | Ordog | we're on a EU realm so maybe the last domain addition got them bugged? |
| 11:53.10 | Ordog | we would be instant worl #1 damnit ... |
| 11:53.12 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 11:53.39 | Fisker- | tried manually adding the guild? |
| 11:55.55 | nevcairiel | what was that page that showed the average and total item level of players in your guild/your realm? |
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| 11:56.20 | keiss | wowrankings ? |
| 11:56.38 | CIA-9 | 03sirow * r64819 10LibAvion-2.0/ (LibAvion-2.0.lua Localization/deDE.lua Localization/enUS.lua): |
| 11:56.38 | CIA-9 | LibAvion-2.0: |
| 11:56.38 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.39 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.39 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64818 10QuestTranslator2/qt2.lua: QuestTranslator2: Added payoff |
| 11:58.01 | nevcairiel | hm yeah thats it, buts its offline :( |
| 11:58.24 | keiss | yeah , for the past 3 months :) |
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| 12:02.15 | Elkano | warcrafter.net has sth like that, too |
| 12:02.38 | Elkano | though they use a somewhat different number |
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| 12:10.59 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64820 10CoolDownButtons/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:10.59 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 12:10.59 | CIA-9 | - added option to set the Anchor as center position and let the cooldowns grow to both sides |
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| 12:22.39 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r64821 10LibTalentQuery-1.0/LibTalentQuery-1.0.lua: |
| 12:22.40 | CIA-9 | LibTalentQuery-1.0: |
| 12:22.40 | CIA-9 | - If the server name is "" then do not concat server to name. |
| 12:23.51 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64822 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:23.51 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:23.51 | CIA-9 | - menu improvements |
| 12:25.07 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64823 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:25.07 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 12:25.07 | CIA-9 | - add option to hide the CoolDown Spiral on the Buttons |
| 12:27.27 | [SW]Dodge | CyCircled autor there?^^ |
| 12:28.07 | syeren | CyCircled on CDB would be awesome ;p |
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| 12:28.50 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r64824 10GridLayoutPlus/GridLayoutPlus.lua: |
| 12:28.50 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
| 12:28.50 | CIA-9 | - Made some changes to hopefully allow Role sorting to update after people aren't in the same zone (after a wipe). |
| 12:29.00 | [SW]Dodge | yeah thats the reason why i ask ^_^ |
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| 12:52.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis are you there? :P |
| 12:52.20 | Industrial | maybe if I.. |
| 12:52.29 | Industrial | tickles Ellipsis |
| 12:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | sigh |
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| 12:53.00 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: nop :( |
| 12:53.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i just need someone with a SVN account to add or delete a newline in ZOMGBuffs.lua(or add a comment like --WAU sucks), for some reason WAU fucks up and doesn't update to the latest release of it, i assume zeksie updated a module but WAU doesn't notice that. -_- |
| 12:54.40 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes i could pull it manually, and i already did, but that doesn't solve the problem for other users :P) |
| 12:55.17 | Industrial | and the older release is way buggy and crashes everyone's client? |
| 12:55.38 | Industrial | (when doesnt he bitch and moan) |
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| 12:55.55 | Industrial | anyway, im off to school |
| 12:55.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: no, it just doesn't work properly :P |
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| 12:58.38 | Recluse | can carto_waypoints be used standalone? |
| 12:59.06 | [Ammo] | no |
| 12:59.23 | [Ammo] | get TomTom (or wait till cladhaire pushes the trunk to wowi) |
| 12:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 13:00.01 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wai |
| 13:00.02 | sag_ich_nicht | t |
| 13:00.06 | sag_ich_nicht | you meant waypoints |
| 13:00.08 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
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| 13:01.50 | Recluse | oh, i have tomtom atm, but it drives me nuts that there is no "hud" (like c_wp's red arrow). the minimap indicator needs to be a different color, or pulse like questhelper does to it - i can never distinguish it from pointers to nearby towns, not to mention there's no Routes support for it T_T |
| 13:02.25 | clad|office | shockingly enough, all of that is already implemented |
| 13:02.28 | clad|office | like they said |
| 13:02.37 | Recluse | eh? |
| 13:03.01 | [Ammo] | you just have to wait till clad puts his trunk on wowi :) |
| 13:03.03 | [Ammo] | like I said |
| 13:03.04 | clad|office | trunk version of tomtom has all of this, as has already been stated |
| 13:03.44 | Recluse | oh? (i didn't see anyone say it XD) i'll have to look into it |
| 13:04.31 | [Ammo] | it's been said quite alot in the channel for the last few weeks |
| 13:05.32 | Recluse | i must miss a lot lol |
| 13:09.04 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 13:09.04 | sag_ich_nicht | "I have deduced that the entire race of ogres must be hermaphrodites -- both male and female at the same time! They are so ashamed of this that they all hide the fact, pretending that ogre females are hidden away somewhere!" |
| 13:09.32 | kenlyric | Recluse: don't worry, I only saw it the once, when I asked for the same feature. (and was given the same response) |
| 13:09.45 | kenlyric | Recluse: it's been "waiting to be trunked" for a while now :) |
| 13:10.48 | kenlyric | the important question though, does it have "funny" death messages? |
| 13:13.03 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64825 10CoolDownButtons/config.lua: CoolDownButtons: bugfix |
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| 13:23.01 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: the deatharrow is being worked on |
| 13:23.20 | clad|office | kenlyric: no it won't have funny death messages |
| 13:23.26 | clad|office | kenlyric: and its not been released because its not finished |
| 13:23.30 | clad|office | but its working |
| 13:24.43 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: cyCircled autor got an ingame mail with the request to contact me :) ^^ |
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| 13:26.37 | syeren | Okay. |
| 13:27.10 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r64826 10CoolDownButtons/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 13:27.10 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 13:27.10 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
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| 13:28.40 | CIA-9 | LibAvion-2.0: |
| 13:28.40 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:29.00 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64828 10CoolDownButtons/config.lua: CoolDownButtons: another bugfix |
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| 13:48.13 | CIA-9 | 03chuanhsing * r64829 10Capping/locals/localization-zhTW.lua: |
| 13:48.13 | CIA-9 | Capping: |
| 13:48.13 | CIA-9 | - fix zhTW (thanks s8095324) |
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| 13:50.33 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: i need your help! |
| 13:53.21 | syeren | With what exactly? |
| 13:53.45 | [SW]Dodge | i dont know if i should support omniCC or not. |
| 13:54.00 | [SW]Dodge | :/ |
| 13:55.04 | syeren | I guess you're not able to make a simple option to turn it on or off? |
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| 13:55.30 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64830 10CoolDownButtons/core.lua: |
| 13:55.30 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 13:55.30 | CIA-9 | - fixed "Show CoolDown Spiral" now don't hides OmniCC text anymore |
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| 13:55.59 | [SW]Dodge | nor sure yet currently reading omnicc source |
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| 13:56.35 | [SW]Dodge | but i mean that "omnicc does a nice button animation if the cooldown gets ready" its a request from the forum |
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| 14:01.24 | CIA-9 | 03kneeki * r64831 10ClassButtons/ClassButtons.toc: |
| 14:01.24 | CIA-9 | ClassButtons: |
| 14:01.24 | CIA-9 | - Updated contact eMail, Comcast doesn't like it when customers host their own eMail servers. |
| 14:02.11 | [SW]Dodge | hm i could make the animation but w/o OmniCC so i can enable and disable it. whats not possible if i make CDB supporting it, what do you think? |
| 14:05.19 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r64832 10ag_UnitFrames/modules/auras/auras.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fix bug with first aura not showing stack size |
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| 14:10.05 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64833 10/branches/AlarLib/: AlarLib: Development branch |
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| 14:11.37 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07AlarLib-3.0 * r64834 10AlarLib/: AlarLib: Branch started |
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| 14:12.49 | mikma | nevcairiel: sweet, aguf love :P |
| 14:13.01 | nevcairiel | that bug was annoying me |
| 14:13.11 | nevcairiel | couldnt see lifebloom stacks |
| 14:14.02 | CIA-9 | 03zeksie * r64835 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Small commit to kick WAU. |
| 14:14.28 | haste | a branch of alarlib? |
| 14:14.34 | nevcairiel | its a new version! |
| 14:14.38 | kenlyric | can't we just set it on a fire? |
| 14:14.45 | kenlyric | won't something new come out? |
| 14:14.46 | nevcairiel | AlarLib-3.0, with more awesome sauce |
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| 14:15.01 | haste | now with rock, ace2 _and_ ace3! |
| 14:15.14 | kenlyric | needs cosmos, imo |
| 14:15.48 | Stanzilla | what about dongle? |
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| 14:16.40 | nevcairiel | how dare you speak of dongle! |
| 14:17.07 | clad|office | srsly |
| 14:17.13 | kenlyric | dongle's more of a libstub and less of a framework, right? |
| 14:17.28 | clad|office | ha-what? |
| 14:17.29 | clad|office | no |
| 14:17.32 | clad|office | not at all |
| 14:17.38 | kenlyric | we can include dongle too. I will submit a bug report |
| 14:17.44 | clad|office | no |
| 14:17.48 | clad|office | i dont want people using dongle |
| 14:17.56 | nevcairiel | but its AlarLib |
| 14:18.00 | nevcairiel | it _needs_ dongle |
| 14:18.04 | clad|office | neg |
| 14:18.49 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r64836 10kgPanelsConfig/PanelHelper.lua: kgPanelsConfig: Only support LibSM3 |
| 14:18.55 | Health | I sense a bit of irony in the air. |
| 14:19.11 | kenlyric | no, what it needs to do is make dongle better |
| 14:19.13 | kenlyric | AlarDongle |
| 14:19.13 | nevcairiel | sarcasm, i would say |
| 14:19.22 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r64837 10kgPanels/ (kgPanels.lua kgPanels.toc): kgPanels: support only LibSM3 |
| 14:21.03 | kenlyric | clad|office: I'm pretty sure if we all got what we wanted, there'd be no alarlib... |
| 14:21.35 | clad|office | ok? |
| 14:21.52 | kenlyric | just pointing out that what you want may not be relevant. |
| 14:22.11 | clad|office | but what i want is realistic |
| 14:22.17 | clad|office | so relevance doesn't matter |
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| 14:24.52 | kenlyric | wonders what realism has to do with desire |
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| 14:26.33 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: is there way to access write something in the Box right of the "Close" button if i'm using AceConfigDialog-3.0? |
| 14:27.09 | kenlyric | odd, the license on Dongle doesn't even preclude someone else using it. |
| 14:27.25 | nevcairiel | [SW]Dodge: i dont think there is a API for that, no |
| 14:27.49 | [SW]Dodge | damn |
| 14:28.13 | kagaro | [SW]Dodge: if you use AceGUI directly you can |
| 14:28.25 | clad|office | kenlyric: what is your point? |
| 14:28.47 | kenlyric | kernel_stack_inpage_error |
| 14:28.59 | [SW]Dodge | yeah, but then i have to rewrite my whole configscreen and thats not worth it ^^ |
| 14:29.00 | kenlyric | clad|office: only that what you want isn't relevant |
| 14:29.09 | clad|office | ... |
| 14:29.10 | clad|office | awesome |
| 14:29.12 | clad|office | have fun with that noe |
| 14:29.31 | kenlyric | you're the one who said you didn't want people using dongle |
| 14:29.46 | clad|office | I don't |
| 14:29.50 | clad|office | so? |
| 14:29.59 | sag_ich_nicht | ook |
| 14:30.03 | sag_ich_nicht | *look |
| 14:30.04 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 14:30.11 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.21 | sag_ich_nicht | now end your silly discussion and laught at the joke! |
| 14:30.33 | Josh_Borke | i would |
| 14:30.34 | kenlyric | He ha? |
| 14:30.35 | Josh_Borke | except it's cut off |
| 14:30.39 | sag_ich_nicht | where |
| 14:30.41 | Josh_Borke | He ha |
| 14:30.46 | Josh_Borke | can you not read your own text? |
| 14:30.51 | sag_ich_nicht | He has crazy sex with them, and then follows the German. The Russian asks: "Hit me hard, right on my nose." The chief is surprised, but hits him. The Russian pulls out a Kalashnikov and shoots all the cannibals. The mortally wounded chief asks him: "Why didn't you do this before we ate the German?", the Russian proudly replies: "Russians are not aggressors!" |
| 14:30.56 | ben___ | Josh_Borke: No, because it is not cut off. |
| 14:31.40 | kenlyric | kernel_stack_inpage_error sounds bad |
| 14:31.44 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:31.58 | kenlyric | it's the blue screen of death that i'm used to |
| 14:32.15 | kenlyric | *not |
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| 14:34.38 | kenlyric | fucking microsoft |
| 14:34.45 | Fisker- | fucks kenlyric |
| 14:34.46 | kenlyric | why is it so hard to tell me what this means. |
| 14:34.57 | Fisker- | it isn't |
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| 14:35.14 | kenlyric | since obviously their corrective actions indicate either ram or hard disk errors, why don't they just say that? |
| 14:35.16 | Fisker- | it means that windows couldn't read your paging file |
| 14:35.18 | Fisker- | baww |
| 14:35.46 | Recluse | Ah, after much Googling, I finally found the TomTom svn. That takes care of two of my issues XD I will probably be better off manually editing Routes to solve the last one. |
| 14:35.56 | clad|office | Recluse: you could haev just asked :P |
| 14:35.58 | chiper | heh heh http://www.pvponline.com/comics/pvp20080313.gif |
| 14:36.06 | clad|office | Recluse: or talk to Xinhuan, since he's been planning support for quite a while |
| 14:36.23 | Recluse | Oh? It could happen one day? That's good. |
| 14:36.24 | Fisker- | i'm outta lulz |
| 14:36.31 | kenlyric | needs more contrast |
| 14:36.47 | Recluse | Don't think it would be too hard to add it myself, though (for the time being) |
| 14:36.52 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 14:37.00 | Recluse | TomTom for Routes |
| 14:37.14 | Xinhuan | tomtom on wowi doesn't have arrows yet, so i haven't added anything |
| 14:37.17 | Fisker- | pew pews |
| 14:37.33 | Xinhuan | but if you want to write a tomtom plugin for routes and submit it to me, do so :) |
| 14:37.45 | Recluse | It's cool, not complaining :p Just would finalize my moving from Cartographer :) |
| 14:37.55 | Xinhuan | you can see that the auto-show/hide and carto_waypoints things are plugins |
| 14:38.01 | Xinhuan | and are completely deletable |
| 14:38.09 | Recluse | =3 |
| 14:38.21 | Recluse | If I get bored later, I might dabble with it. |
| 14:38.21 | Xinhuan | in fact, so are the module plugins |
| 14:38.29 | Xinhuan | for gathermate, gatherer and carto |
| 14:38.32 | Xinhuan | deletable to save ram |
| 14:38.45 | Xinhuan | although the ram saved is probably less than 20 kb |
| 14:39.02 | Recluse | Yeah, lol |
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| 14:42.13 | Nandini | i wish i could delete all node data of a specific type from gathermate |
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| 14:42.50 | mikma | just disable them? |
| 14:42.59 | Recluse | I'd like a zone density browser, but... :p |
| 14:43.14 | Nandini | i want to delete some bad data that i've imported |
| 14:44.00 | Nandini | what exactly do you mean by zone density? |
| 14:45.00 | Nandini | which zone has the most nodes of specified types? or the shortest route among all nodes of specified types? |
| 14:45.14 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.14 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r64838 10GatherMate/ (Config.lua Libs/ embeds.xml): GatherMate: use AceDBOptions-3.0 |
| 14:45.15 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.26 | Recluse | It's unrelated to yours, but basically you'd click on Nagrand and it would say "52 Adamantite, 30 Rich Adamantite, 100 Felweed...etc" So you can find the zone with the largest density of the node type you want to go farm. Not a big deal, but I do miss it. |
| 14:46.22 | Nandini | just type it in wowhead and it lists zones for that node type in descending order |
| 14:46.25 | Recluse | Inter-zone Routes would be interesting too. As well as recording "Mountable" when clicking a node in some way so you know if the nodes are underground/water/indoors to provide better routing. |
| 14:46.43 | Fisker- | wtf sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:46.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 14:46.50 | Recluse | Right, there are other ways to do it, just me being lazy is all :p |
| 14:46.51 | Nandini | yes i suggested making coordinates negative for indoor areas, but imported data doesn't contain that information |
| 14:46.56 | Fisker- | thought it was part of the commit there |
| 14:47.02 | Nandini | and other addons which rely on gathermate data would choke |
| 14:47.40 | Recluse | Anyway, those are just my own personal wish list. I can live without 'em. :p |
| 14:48.07 | Nandini | i just exclude indoor nodes as i encounter them, only really has to be done once |
| 14:48.34 | Recluse | Well, at times I like to farm in caves - Sometimes you get a better yield, depending on the zone or how desperate you are. |
| 14:48.46 | Nandini | but a route is rarely useful in a cave |
| 14:49.05 | Nandini | and hopefully you know where the caves are |
| 14:49.27 | Recluse | Yes, and nevermind the complexity of determining which nodes belong to which cave :p |
| 14:49.57 | Nandini | if you're not creating indoor routes, it doesn't matter which "cave" they belong to |
| 14:50.20 | Nandini | negative coordinates would be an easy way to exclude all indoor nodes from routes, but i don't mind right clicking once to remove them |
| 14:50.28 | Recluse | I suppose it would be more... considered a cluster? If added to a Route, that is. |
| 14:50.36 | CIA-9 | 03sirow * r64839 10LibAvion-2.0/LibAvion-2.0.lua: |
| 14:50.36 | CIA-9 | LibAvion-2.0: |
| 14:50.36 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.57 | Nandini | the best solution would be to manually create a single node at the cave's entrance(s) |
| 14:51.14 | Recluse | That could work |
| 14:51.42 | Nandini | that would include the cave in your outdoor route at its nearest accessible location |
| 14:51.52 | Nandini | the entire cave, that is |
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| 14:58.08 | CIA-9 | 03sirow 07Sirow * r64840 10Avion/Avion/ (22 files in 6 dirs): |
| 14:58.08 | CIA-9 | Avion: |
| 14:58.08 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.08 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:01.18 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 072.4 * r64841 10Mapster/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Mapster: use functions for config generation |
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| 15:01.41 | kenlyric | "i may have dropped the laptop a couple of times" |
| 15:01.51 | kenlyric | you couldn't tell me that a week ago? |
| 15:04.04 | CIA-9 | 03anadale * r64842 10UnderHood/ (10 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:04.04 | CIA-9 | UnderHood: |
| 15:04.04 | CIA-9 | - Click-cast support added to Bars in addition to Texts (configurable through "Interactive" option) |
| 15:04.04 | CIA-9 | - Option added to Bar that Added options to show menu when right-click on bar |
| 15:04.04 | CIA-9 | - Added debuff border highlighting based on debuff type (configurable through "Color border" option) |
| 15:04.07 | CIA-9 | - Added debuff filtering based on debuff type (configurable through "Dispelable only" option) |
| 15:04.09 | CIA-9 | - OmniCC support added for buffs and debuffs |
| 15:04.48 | CIA-9 | 03sirow 07Sirow * r64843 10Avion/Avion/: |
| 15:04.48 | CIA-9 | Avion: |
| 15:04.48 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:06.40 | clad|office | Zynderps: not a huge fan of your ident username. Is it really necessary? |
| 15:07.20 | [Ammo] | easy solution to get him/her to change that :) |
| 15:07.37 | Zynderps | dives into the settings |
| 15:07.47 | clad|office | lol |
| 15:07.55 | clad|office | its not a huge deal, but wanted to say something |
| 15:08.01 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:11.10 | kenlyric | practically speaking, am I looking at a huge performance loss gain between the 8600m gt 256 and 8600m gt 512? |
| 15:11.21 | kenlyric | loss/gain |
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| 15:13.56 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 15:13.58 | kenlyric | mt |
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| 15:14.35 | Josh_Borke | kenlyric: for wow? doubtful |
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| 15:15.58 | ckknight | [SW]Dodge: pong |
| 15:16.44 | [SW]Dodge | uhm... forgotten what i want to ask :D |
| 15:16.54 | ckknight | so who would win in a fight, the Chupacabra or Bigfoot? |
| 15:17.11 | [SW]Dodge | what is a chupacabra? |
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| 15:18.23 | Recluse | Mexican fictional character "goat sucker" kills goats by drinking their blood. On par with American Big Foot. Supposed to be real, but no proof. |
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| 15:19.17 | Recluse | ckknight: I'd say the Chupa, since the Big Foot always was rather docile from what I've read... |
| 15:19.23 | kenlyric | el chupinebre? |
| 15:19.35 | kenlyric | chupacabra is faster |
| 15:19.37 | kenlyric | and also invisible |
| 15:19.42 | kenlyric | i think it wins |
| 15:19.45 | CIA-9 | 03snago * r64844 10IHML/IHML.lua: |
| 15:19.45 | CIA-9 | IHML: |
| 15:19.45 | CIA-9 | - Register for "ZONE_CHANGED_INDOORS" as well. |
| 15:19.47 | [SW]Dodge | http://www.googlefight.de/index.php?fight1=Chupacabra&fight2=Bigfoo |
| 15:19.47 | [SW]Dodge | Result: 1080000 (Chupacabra) vs 70500 (Bigfoo). |
| 15:19.58 | Recluse | lol |
| 15:20.12 | kenlyric | also, the chupacabra episode of the x-files was better than the bigfoot episode of the x-files |
| 15:20.31 | ckknight | kenlyric: I thought they were both good |
| 15:20.37 | Kulaar | got a little problem: i "coded" a tiny function and receive a very strange error via buggrabber |
| 15:20.39 | Kulaar | http://ace.pastey.net/83971-20z0 |
| 15:20.48 | Snago | http://www.googlefight.de/index.php?fight1=Chupacabra&fight2=Bigfoot |
| 15:21.00 | Kulaar | perhaps someone can look over it |
| 15:21.07 | Snago | 1080000 (Chupacabra) zu 6700000 (Bigfoot) |
| 15:21.36 | Snago | Bigfoot wins with the correct spelling :P |
| 15:21.55 | [SW]Dodge | ow ^^ |
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| 15:28.48 | CIA-9 | 03trasher * r64845 10Proximo2/locals/localization-frFR.lua: |
| 15:28.48 | CIA-9 | Proximo2: |
| 15:28.48 | CIA-9 | - frFR update |
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| 15:33.57 | CIA-9 | 03trasher * r64846 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 15:33.57 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:33.57 | CIA-9 | - frFR update |
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| 15:38.28 | CIA-9 | 03anadale * r64847 10UnderHood/Modules/ (Bars/BarFrame.lua Buffs/BuffFrame.lua Texts/TextFrame.lua): |
| 15:38.28 | CIA-9 | UnderHood: |
| 15:38.28 | CIA-9 | - Fixed rare error with wrong buff/debuff tooltips displaying wrong buffs or debuffs when filtering is turned on |
| 15:38.28 | CIA-9 | - Fixed a typo in code for Bars and Texts |
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| 15:44.09 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3190831945&sid=1#1 <-ooooowned |
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| 15:45.50 | Gelo | indeed |
| 15:46.43 | Snago | lol, that's crazy |
| 15:46.46 | nevcairiel | Cogent are such suckers |
| 15:46.55 | jy | yes |
| 15:47.05 | Fisker- | shouldn't even be possible |
| 15:47.08 | Fisker- | WTB chinanet |
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| 15:48.21 | Josh_Borke | it's their money to lose |
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| 15:48.52 | Fisker- | routing was apparently free between telia and cogent |
| 15:48.57 | jy | cogent deliver low cost access, and they are making benefits from this policy of being asshole |
| 15:49.10 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro * r64848 10kgPanelsConfig/kgPanelsConfig.lua: kgPanelsConfig: DRYCODE, update to root config table, ran through luac |
| 15:49.24 | Fisker- | But apparently someone decided they wanted money for the routing |
| 15:49.25 | nevcairiel | good that my ISP has a quick uplink into telia net |
| 15:49.33 | Fisker- | same here :o |
| 15:49.43 | mikma | so there's NECB.. is there anything else for tracking cooldowns and stuff like that one? |
| 15:49.49 | mikma | i fail to remember |
| 15:49.58 | jy | witchhunt ? |
| 15:50.02 | dylanm | There are a lot of random timer mods... |
| 15:50.19 | dylanm | I don't really understand what does what among ClassTimer/Sorren/Chronometer/Antagonist. |
| 15:50.26 | mikma | witchhunt is a spellalert mod |
| 15:50.43 | nevcairiel | can cogent users not reach telia at all or just high-latency? |
| 15:50.44 | mikma | dylanm: there we go, 4 good choices that i'll browse through now |
| 15:50.49 | Fisker- | would be lulz if cogent get ownt by wow users |
| 15:50.57 | Fisker- | nevcairiel not at all |
| 15:51.02 | dylanm | mikma: Well I'm not sure if they do what you want... I just know that they throw up bars for stuff. |
| 15:51.05 | nevcairiel | that really shouldnt be possible |
| 15:51.17 | nevcairiel | the big internet hubs should forward that |
| 15:51.31 | nevcairiel | unless cogent explicitly blocks the traffic |
| 15:51.37 | jy | dumbs are isp who rely only on cogent |
| 15:51.38 | Fisker- | according to the post they're also blocking routing if it can reach telia through that route |
| 15:51.55 | mikma | dylanm: to be honest, i can't remember what i want, but i know that NECB doesn't do the job :P |
| 15:52.04 | dylanm | It doesn't? |
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| 15:52.06 | mikma | i'll see through those and try to remember what the hell was it |
| 15:52.08 | nevcairiel | as i understand, cogent and telia had a direct link before, that got disrupted due to a money thing |
| 15:52.17 | jy | cogent wanted telia to pay |
| 15:52.23 | dylanm | In terms of, like, completeness I've never seen anything that does better. |
| 15:52.24 | jy | telia didnt want |
| 15:52.25 | jy | cut |
| 15:52.34 | dylanm | What about Afflicted? No? |
| 15:52.38 | nevcairiel | but cogent blocking traffic and not using the main internet hubs to allow the traffic is plain stupid =P |
| 15:52.57 | nevcairiel | oh well, traffic through the hubs would cost cogent money |
| 15:53.01 | jy | im not sure cogent is blocking the traffic |
| 15:53.27 | jy | i heard that telia didnt want to reroute traffic through another provider to cogent |
| 15:53.36 | mikma | antagonist is in outdated mods (wowi) ? |
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| 15:54.01 | nevcairiel | probably because other provides cost money =P |
| 15:55.11 | Fisker- | it's pretty sick to hear there's some bastard saying "Hey lets break the internet because we want more money" |
| 15:55.34 | jy | things worse happens |
| 15:55.38 | jy | everyday |
| 15:55.42 | jy | on the internet |
| 15:56.07 | jy | this week end, an isp has hijacked kenyan addresses |
| 15:56.11 | jy | like the youtube things |
| 15:56.12 | nevcairiel | its just a local issue really |
| 15:56.12 | nevcairiel | for cogent customers |
| 15:56.13 | nevcairiel | its not like they broke the internet |
| 15:56.16 | jy | but who cares of kenya |
| 15:56.39 | Fisker- | Isn't the issue bidirectional? |
| 15:57.00 | Fisker- | Cogent can reach telia, and telia can't reach cogent right? |
| 15:57.31 | Josh_Borke | if one party can't talk to the other then neither party can talk |
| 15:57.59 | nevcairiel | yeah |
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| 15:58.47 | Fisker- | And it annoys me that then some random people will sit with limited access to their tubes because of a choice their ISP made for them |
| 16:00.42 | Josh_Borke | but they then have the choice to get a new isp |
| 16:00.49 | Gelo | How does RegisterEvent(EventName, Somethinghere?) work ? |
| 16:01.05 | Josh_Borke | gelo: somethinghere doesn't do anything in blizzard code, doesi t? |
| 16:01.11 | Fisker- | obviously Josh_Borke |
| 16:01.21 | Josh_Borke | or are you talking about ace/rock code gelo? |
| 16:01.42 | Gelo | it should had said *insert something here* |
| 16:02.07 | nevcairiel | well blizzard code only does frame:RegisterEvent("EventNameHere") |
| 16:02.12 | Gelo | Thanks |
| 16:02.16 | Josh_Borke | Gelo: do you mean Ace2/Ace3/Rock/Dongle register event? |
| 16:02.16 | Gelo | all i need to know :) |
| 16:02.34 | Josh_Borke | hates the disconnected world where he is ignored! |
| 16:02.35 | nevcairiel | Ace2/3 does "AddOn:RegisterEvent(EventNameHere, funcref or "method") |
| 16:02.37 | Josh_Borke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 16:02.37 | purl | pours hot grits down the front of nevcairiel's pants |
| 16:02.57 | dylanm | You get "EventNamehere" as the second argument to your OnEvent. |
| 16:03.00 | Josh_Borke | all fr8ameworks (to my knowledge) support EventName, funcref or "method" |
| 16:03.14 | Josh_Borke | depending |
| 16:03.21 | Josh_Borke | if you pass a string you get it as the second argument |
| 16:03.29 | Josh_Borke | but a funcref gets it as the first argument, no? |
| 16:03.33 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 16:13.16 | mikma | so, there are two addons that look almost the same: EavesDrop and ... what? |
| 16:13.44 | kergoth | battlechat |
| 16:13.47 | kergoth | iirc anyway |
| 16:13.57 | mikma | yeah. thats it. |
| 16:14.05 | kergoth | dunno if that ones maintained or not |
| 16:14.27 | mikma | atleast there ain't anything called that in svn |
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| 16:15.46 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64849 10AlarArtRemover/AlarArtRemover.toc: |
| 16:15.46 | CIA-9 | AlarArtRemover |
| 16:15.46 | CIA-9 | 1.0.4 |
| 16:15.46 | CIA-9 | Upgrade: Embedded libraries upgrade |
| 16:15.46 | CIA-9 | Fixed: ...AlarLib-2.0.lua:4689: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
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| 16:18.21 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r64850 10HotCandy/ (Anchor.lua Core.lua HotCandy.toc): HotCandy: some tweaks and fixes |
| 16:19.35 | kergoth | mikma: eavesdrop was always better, functionality wise. iirc the other was like 1/8th the size of it, ram usage wise, but didn't have the flexibility |
| 16:19.38 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r64851 10HotCandy/Core.lua: HotCandy: doh forgot one |
| 16:20.35 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64852 10/branches/ (AlarLib/ AlarModules/): Renamed remotely |
| 16:21.05 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64853 10AlarModules/: AlarBGHelper |
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| 16:21.17 | mikma | har har |
| 16:21.29 | mikma | ace3 alarlib |
| 16:21.40 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64854 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/: |
| 16:21.40 | CIA-9 | AlarBGHelper |
| 16:21.40 | CIA-9 | Branching for Ace3 and 2.4 |
| 16:21.45 | haste | 2l4 |
| 16:21.49 | haste | oh |
| 16:21.52 | haste | 2.4 in that way :D |
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| 16:22.04 | haste | I need more coffee I see |
| 16:22.08 | mikma | yes yes |
| 16:22.15 | mikma | or more hitler-like littlegirls |
| 16:22.36 | [Ammo] | omg alarlib with ace3 |
| 16:22.45 | dylanm | Two great powers combine. |
| 16:22.45 | [Ammo] | I want to kill that fucking retard with a spoon |
| 16:22.49 | [Ammo] | make it slow and painful |
| 16:23.10 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
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| 16:23.25 | [Ammo] | goes and adds checks to Ace3 to just fail on *Alar* |
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| 16:23.38 | [Ammo] | pop up dialog boxes with 'idiot!' |
| 16:23.43 | Xinhuan | who remembers the donation button wars :) |
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| 16:24.09 | mikma | Shadowed and ckknight |
| 16:24.11 | Yssaril | shadowed vs ckknight war u mean? |
| 16:24.38 | mikma | yes, i pinged both of you, muahaha |
| 16:24.46 | ckknight | I remember. |
| 16:25.06 | Vangual | i'd like to use alarbghelper but it kept saving all of recount's framedata into his frame positioning settings. 20+mb alarbghelper.lua SV ftl :( |
| 16:25.09 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07AlarLib-3.0 * r64855 10AlarModules/: |
| 16:25.09 | CIA-9 | AlarBGHelper |
| 16:25.09 | CIA-9 | Relocated, this one is useless |
| 16:25.17 | Ellipsis | ^at least he admits it |
| 16:25.18 | dylanm | Hahaha. |
| 16:25.21 | dylanm | That's so good. |
| 16:25.26 | clad|office | haha |
| 16:25.31 | [Ammo] | really |
| 16:25.34 | [Ammo] | if he were on irc |
| 16:25.36 | kergoth | wait, "this one"? |
| 16:25.37 | kergoth | pfft |
| 16:25.40 | kergoth | s/this/every/ |
| 16:25.56 | [Ammo] | he'd be shivering in his little panties already |
| 16:25.56 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r64856 10Recount2/ (Data.lua GUI_List.lua): |
| 16:25.56 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 16:25.56 | CIA-9 | -Adds class as a grouping for the details window |
| 16:25.56 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 16:26.04 | Ellipsis | s/this one/this author/ |
| 16:26.37 | Yssaril | wait wats going on i just joined and all i see is people ripping on alar :P |
| 16:26.45 | Cryect | AlarLib-3.0 is coming |
| 16:26.46 | [Ammo] | alar deserves it |
| 16:27.01 | xyu | alar will raise from the ashes! |
| 16:27.01 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64857 10AlarModules/AlarBgHelper/: |
| 16:27.01 | CIA-9 | AlarBGHelper |
| 16:27.01 | CIA-9 | Initial revision for ACE3 branch |
| 16:27.01 | [Ammo] | should adjust the Ace3 license |
| 16:27.04 | [Ammo] | to exlude his ass |
| 16:27.11 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 16:27.33 | Ellipsis | yes, do that |
| 16:27.42 | [Ammo] | but he'd just use an older version :) |
| 16:27.43 | Ellipsis | then you'll finally have a good excuse to remove his stuff from the svn! |
| 16:28.02 | Ellipsis | you think he's that smart? |
| 16:28.23 | ckknight | so on the walk from work, a song popped into my head - not one that I'd heard before, but something that I made up. it's slow-paced, heartfelt, a caring song. "Don't cry, emo kid" |
| 16:28.37 | ckknight | working on the lyrics now... |
| 16:29.01 | xyu | have ellipsis sing it |
| 16:29.04 | CIA-9 | 03dodge * r64858 10CoolDownButtons/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:29.04 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 16:29.04 | CIA-9 | - added a Pulse effect |
| 16:29.04 | CIA-9 | - splited "Display Settings" to multiple sub-pages |
| 16:29.09 | JJSheets | Hey, nobody thinks of me and InfiniBar this way right? :p |
| 16:29.23 | Ellipsis | JJSheets: not while you're on IRC at least ;) |
| 16:29.25 | xyu | You're in IRC, |
| 16:29.27 | xyu | we can't tell you |
| 16:29.29 | JJSheets | cool. |
| 16:29.30 | Yssaril | JJSheets: you think we would tell you :P |
| 16:29.30 | JJSheets | lol |
| 16:29.40 | [Ammo] | btw ckknight did you make the masks for Chinchilla yourself? |
| 16:29.48 | kergoth | what, you think we have tact? shit, we'd tell you if there was something we didnt like |
| 16:29.50 | [Ammo] | and if so, wanna enlighten me on how to :) |
| 16:29.51 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:29.57 | Ellipsis | nandini made the high-res masks |
| 16:30.00 | [Ammo] | need hello kitty mask for Xinhuan |
| 16:30.00 | ckknight | [Ammo]: by outsourcing to Nandini |
| 16:30.04 | [Ammo] | haha ok |
| 16:30.06 | ckknight | he used photoshop |
| 16:30.15 | [Ammo] | talk to him then |
| 16:30.20 | ckknight | [Ammo]: you're free to use the masks, if you want |
| 16:30.24 | kergoth | wtb smaller icons in the Nandini blip set |
| 16:30.34 | Xinhuan | Nandini is pretty pro at photoshop ;p |
| 16:30.38 | [Ammo] | hmmok, but I need a few more |
| 16:30.43 | Nandini | yes please feel free to use anything i donated for inclusion in chinchilla |
| 16:30.46 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan needs a heart and star |
| 16:30.51 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 16:30.51 | nevcairiel | hello kitty, heart-shaped |
| 16:30.52 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 16:30.56 | Xinhuan | hey that was a joke |
| 16:31.00 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 16:31.09 | Xinhuan | i said it'll be cool if i have minimap masks shaped like stars, hearts and hello kitties! |
| 16:31.10 | Yssaril | [Ammo]: they are simple tga alpha masks nothing special |
| 16:31.18 | [Ammo] | Yssaril: might be simple for you |
| 16:31.20 | Nandini | i have a blip set that has a heart for the tracked resource icon. heheh |
| 16:31.21 | [Ammo] | but I suck at graphics |
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| 16:31.28 | [Ammo] | anyway, gotta ago |
| 16:31.48 | Nandini | i think i will put little hello kitty faces for hostile players in one, that would be cute :) |
| 16:31.52 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: shouldnt be to hard to do (getting your buttons to follow the shape might be a problem though :P) |
| 16:31.53 | Xinhuan | LOl |
| 16:31.57 | ckknight | Nandini: hehe |
| 16:32.02 | Xinhuan | oh right :< |
| 16:32.04 | Xinhuan | screw the idea |
| 16:32.38 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: just make a star and stick each button on the end points :P |
| 16:32.38 | Nandini | it's kind of weird trying to figure out how the blip scaling is done, i thought they were locked at UI scale |
| 16:32.59 | Nandini | also, i have star shaped masks, but they do not work well with blips |
| 16:33.13 | Xinhuan | i was toying around with an idea where i made the minimap the size of the whole WorldFrame, and overlaid the minimap half transparent on the worldframe |
| 16:33.21 | Xinhuan | adjusted by direction of view, etc of course |
| 16:33.53 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: rotating world map overlayed over everything that be hot |
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| 16:34.07 | Xinhuan | you might want Carbonite ;p |
| 16:34.30 | Nandini | party and raid blips will always display to about 95% of the default circular boundaries of the minimap, after that, a rotating arrow gets put on |
| 16:34.32 | ckknight | Xinhuan: you can do that with Chinchilla... |
| 16:34.38 | Yssaril | i'm not paying for a pos just to have a fancy zoom features :P |
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| 16:34.42 | Xinhuan | oh hmm |
| 16:34.43 | ckknight | the Expander module |
| 16:34.48 | Xinhuan | you got a point |
| 16:34.49 | ckknight | you have to hold a button, though |
| 16:34.59 | ckknight | I could make it so that it's always on or something, though |
| 16:35.12 | Xinhuan | it was just an idea, i have no idea how practical it is |
| 16:35.26 | Yssaril | ckknight: can you make it so it applies a different boarder/mask when expanding? |
| 16:35.34 | Nandini | just add a second keybind, one for toggle, and one for temporary |
| 16:36.16 | ckknight | Yssaril: I could |
| 16:36.23 | ckknight | Yssaril: currently it applies no border |
| 16:36.27 | Xinhuan | i think i better go look at UIDropDownMenu code again, and see if i can use it |
| 16:36.38 | Nandini | Yssaril: i think that was a jira request already |
| 16:36.52 | Nandini | but it would be analagous to the "alternate map" settings in cartographer |
| 16:37.03 | ckknight | anyone artistic want to give me some creative input? |
| 16:37.04 | Yssaril | was thinking about applying no border but having the minimap fade out so it blends in kinda |
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| 16:37.33 | Yssaril | <--- not artistic but i can always give input :P |
| 16:37.46 | Industrial | input is good. |
| 16:37.46 | Xinhuan | what does issecure() do again? just returns true/false for whether the current execution thread is secure or not? |
| 16:37.52 | kergoth | the advantage of expander over carto with alternate map settings is seeeing trackign blips |
| 16:38.12 | ckknight | http://pastey.net/83973 |
| 16:38.22 | Nandini | yes, i meant that the analogy would be having two completely different appearance configurations, toggleable |
| 16:38.35 | [SW]Dodge | ~framexml |
| 16:38.36 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 16:38.41 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: yes |
| 16:38.58 | Xinhuan | argh, this doesn't seem usable then |
| 16:39.12 | ckknight | that pastey is the lyrics to a song I came up with |
| 16:39.57 | Yssaril | last 2 lines seam kina off dosn't flow with the rest imo |
| 16:40.09 | ckknight | Yssaril: got any suggestions? |
| 16:40.23 | Yssaril | actually just the last line the mascara kinda dosnt go with emo kid |
| 16:40.24 | ckknight | that part could be used somewhere else, I'm thinking of doing a third verse |
| 16:40.25 | Xinhuan | who remembers which one enchanting uses, craftUI or tradeskillUI |
| 16:40.31 | ckknight | Yssaril: emo kids use makeup and cry |
| 16:40.47 | Nandini | the last line is interesting, it makes you wonder if the "not real dad" is caring sincerely, or just wanting the emo kid to change his entire attitude |
| 16:40.48 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: enchanting is craft, all other tradeskill, iirc |
| 16:40.51 | Yssaril | emo girl maybe :P |
| 16:41.00 | phyber | can someone on the US forums post a bug asking "Why can't coal be put in the mining bag?". Because seriously, which genius at Blizzard hasn't heard of a coal mine? |
| 16:41.04 | ckknight | no, emo girls don't wear makeup and look like dykes |
| 16:41.11 | Yssaril | lol |
| 16:41.15 | nevcairiel | phyber: lol |
| 16:41.28 | ckknight | Nandini: actually there's gonna be more verses where it's revealed that he's in the same grade and slept with the emo kid's mom |
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| 16:42.13 | Nandini | hmm so is this person taunting the emo kid with this song? |
| 16:42.31 | ckknight | yes, but it's sung in a very slow, heartfelt manner, as if he cares |
| 16:42.55 | Nandini | so the irony is in the tone |
| 16:42.58 | ckknight | yes |
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| 16:43.21 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64859 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:43.21 | CIA-9 | AlarLib-3.0 |
| 16:43.21 | CIA-9 | Including static LibStub and CallbackHandler |
| 16:43.28 | Gelo | I was on my druid and DND then logged on my paladin and i was still DND |
| 16:43.33 | Gelo | weird.....? |
| 16:43.46 | Gelo | same message too |
| 16:43.48 | Nandini | tries to be nice and not laugh with glee at the thought of mocking emo kids. |
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| 16:43.57 | Nandini | i like emo kids, really |
| 16:43.58 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64860 10AlarLib/AlarLib-3.0/: |
| 16:43.58 | CIA-9 | AlarLib |
| 16:43.58 | CIA-9 | Removed development branch AlarLib-3.0 |
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| 16:44.30 | Xinhuan | what the heck is alar doing |
| 16:44.38 | Nandini | ckknight: are you the emo kid or the guy who slept with the emo kid's mom? :P |
| 16:44.50 | ckknight | Nandini: well, it's a fictional story |
| 16:45.01 | ckknight | I think the concept of emo kids are hilarious, though |
| 16:45.12 | ckknight | they're a great scapegoat for societal issues |
| 16:45.26 | kagaro | Nandini: you make a hello kitty background, ill add it to kgPanels as a default :P |
| 16:45.41 | Nandini | ooh that would go great with the Chinchilla borders! |
| 16:45.43 | Xinhuan | have you ppl seen the Captain Planet UI? |
| 16:46.11 | Nandini | perhaps just a subliminal hellokitty overlay blended in add mode that fades in over time :) |
| 16:46.30 | Nandini | on top of whatever texture users choose |
| 16:46.53 | kagaro | Nandini: make the bg |
| 16:46.55 | JJSheets | You guys are pure evil. :) |
| 16:46.55 | Nandini | fade it in to about 5%, then fade it back out, so users are constantly looking to see if it's there |
| 16:47.03 | kagaro | haha |
| 16:47.08 | Nandini | and wondering if they are going crazy |
| 16:47.28 | ckknight | you can't see 5% |
| 16:47.31 | ckknight | gotta be at least 15% |
| 16:47.34 | kagaro | maybe a random frame to popup and bounce a hello kitty for a few secs then fade out |
| 16:47.45 | Nandini | subliminally, your brain will register it, that's what leads to the crazy part |
| 16:47.54 | Xinhuan | Nandini: http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2038/wowscrnshot030408001046wd8.jpg |
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| 16:47.57 | ckknight | except that subliminal messages are bullshit |
| 16:47.57 | Xinhuan | captain planet UI |
| 16:47.59 | Xinhuan | its brilliant |
| 16:48.05 | JJSheets | "Hello kitty told me to kill him, I swear!" |
| 16:48.20 | ckknight | oh man |
| 16:48.23 | ckknight | I thought of a great addon idea |
| 16:48.24 | ckknight | Clippy |
| 16:48.28 | ckknight | that gives you tips |
| 16:48.31 | Xinhuan | see the big HEARTH down there? ;p |
| 16:48.34 | NeoTron | this is a very weird time to come in to #wowace it seems |
| 16:48.39 | kagaro | fuck that paper clip |
| 16:48.39 | ckknight | "I see you're trying to kill a mob" |
| 16:48.39 | Nandini | YES! Clippy! |
| 16:48.44 | kergoth | hahah |
| 16:48.48 | kagaro | I despise clippy |
| 16:48.52 | Xinhuan | microsoft clippy? :p |
| 16:48.55 | ckknight | yes, Xinhuan |
| 16:48.59 | JJSheets | lol ckknight |
| 16:49.09 | Xinhuan | they have extra modules |
| 16:49.12 | Xinhuan | like dogs and stuff too |
| 16:49.12 | ckknight | "I see you're bubble-hearthing, do you need some help with that?" |
| 16:49.19 | ckknight | yea, the dog, cat, Merlin |
| 16:49.27 | Ellipsis | and the dot! |
| 16:49.41 | Nandini | "It looks like you just got pwned. Would you like some help finding your corpse?" |
| 16:50.28 | ckknight | hehe |
| 16:50.43 | Xinhuan | "Tip: You can press M to open the map to find your corpse" |
| 16:50.44 | ckknight | I'd do it, but I don't care enough to do a gag addon like that |
| 16:52.03 | kagaro | http://www.decalsusa.com/images/hello%20kitty%20color.GIF |
| 16:52.39 | JJSheets | yep, pure evil. |
| 16:53.10 | kagaro | no this is evil: http://www.saynotocrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/hello-kitty-darth-vader.jpg |
| 16:53.28 | kenlyric | pure genius |
| 16:53.45 | kenlyric | hey, that's my city |
| 16:53.48 | kenlyric | is that from gencon? |
| 16:53.49 | JJSheets | I shudder under the oppressive weight of the evil of Darth Kitty. |
| 16:54.01 | kenlyric | that's gotta be from gencon |
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| 16:54.09 | Korben | heys all |
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| 16:54.31 | Korben | i was wondering if there are any problems with current Recount |
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| 16:57.16 | NeoTron | that is awfully vague |
| 16:57.46 | NeoTron | given the question I assume you're having an issue but if you do, why not just say so? :P |
| 16:58.01 | Korben | yea haveing issue |
| 16:58.07 | Korben | its eating mem like crazt latly |
| 16:58.15 | NeoTron | it does that |
| 16:58.20 | Korben | and i turned off the time thingy |
| 16:58.23 | nevcairiel | thats normal, yeah |
| 16:58.28 | Industrial | thats cause thats what its supposed to do! |
| 16:58.29 | nevcairiel | mem is its fuel |
| 16:58.31 | Xinhuan | recount is well known for eating a lot of ram ;p |
| 16:58.31 | Korben | yea but NeoTron more then before |
| 16:58.39 | Industrial | do less |
| 16:58.43 | Industrial | :D |
| 16:58.47 | Xinhuan | that's because recount added features like tracking network traffic |
| 16:58.48 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r64861 10CoolDownButtons/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 16:58.48 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 16:58.48 | CIA-9 | - change wording in koKR |
| 16:58.49 | Korben | well honestly i dident have this kind of issues before |
| 16:58.50 | NeoTron | I assume recount2 will have more selective logging |
| 16:58.53 | Xinhuan | so it uses more ram |
| 16:59.03 | Korben | ok |
| 16:59.05 | Industrial | Xinhuan: why T_T ever would you want that? |
| 16:59.05 | NeoTron | Korben: what is "before"? I mean, I'ev had issues like that for quite a long while |
| 16:59.10 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 16:59.11 | Xinhuan | ask Cryect |
| 16:59.16 | Industrial | Cryect: why?! |
| 16:59.19 | Korben | before the sync thingy |
| 16:59.34 | Korben | im guessing thats the network traffic |
| 16:59.36 | NeoTron | I don't see the logging itself to be an issue. I see the inability to disable specific "reports" as the main issue :P |
| 16:59.42 | NeoTron | turn off syncing? |
| 16:59.48 | Korben | i did |
| 17:00.04 | Korben | still im geting like for 3 bosses 30 to 40 mb extra |
| 17:00.08 | Korben | mem usage |
| 17:00.11 | NeoTron | honestly syncing is evil and unnecessary 99% of the time |
| 17:00.15 | Anadale | Hmm, anybody knows why AtlasLoot consumes so much CPU? :) |
| 17:00.34 | Xinhuan | Anadale, because you installed your addons embedded |
| 17:00.48 | Xinhuan | and atlasloot is the first addon to load all the ace2 libraries |
| 17:00.52 | Xinhuan | as it begins with A |
| 17:01.07 | Xinhuan | so every other addon that uses ace2, uses the copy of ace2 in atlasloot |
| 17:01.21 | Xinhuan | i.e incorrect CPU attribution when using embedded addons |
| 17:01.28 | Xinhuan | embedded libraries rather |
| 17:01.56 | Xinhuan | (atlasloot doesn't use any cpu time, its just a display of loot, doesn't monitor or track any events) |
| 17:02.02 | Anadale | Good point, thank you. Is there any "intelligent" CPU profilers? |
| 17:02.07 | Xinhuan | no |
| 17:02.09 | Industrial | and then when all the other addons have all their dependancies screwed up |
| 17:02.11 | ulic | We could make an addon named AaaaaahCPUUsage to eat allthe blame. |
| 17:02.11 | Xinhuan | you have to install addons disembedded |
| 17:02.12 | Industrial | noone notices |
| 17:02.12 | Korben | so now way to turn of the network collection ? |
| 17:02.15 | Industrial | and I dont load atalasloot |
| 17:02.16 | Industrial | and I do |
| 17:02.20 | Industrial | and I ahve to bitch at people |
| 17:02.22 | Xinhuan | if you want accurate CPU |
| 17:02.24 | Industrial | _every_ time |
| 17:02.31 | Xinhuan | i.e every library in its own addon folder |
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| 17:02.49 | Xinhuan | even so, its difficult to attribute CPU to a particular addon |
| 17:03.01 | Xinhuan | because ace2 could be using 800 cpu time, but you can't tell which addon is using how much |
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| 17:03.22 | Xinhuan | that's how shared libraries work |
| 17:03.30 | Anadale | breakdown by frame and frame affinity? |
| 17:03.43 | Xinhuan | the frame belongs to ace2 |
| 17:03.43 | nevcairiel | then all ends up on AceEvent-20-EventFrame |
| 17:03.44 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:03.50 | Industrial | hehe |
| 17:03.58 | JJSheets | Expo can profile function calls, but it takes some getting used to, and shouldn't be used while not testing/fixing an addon. |
| 17:04.05 | Anadale | Aha, so now we know who to blame for :) |
| 17:04.07 | Xinhuan | but all ace2 addons register their events to ace2 event frame |
| 17:04.21 | Xinhuan | one central frame that is |
| 17:04.30 | Ellipsis | the best way to determine if an addon is using a lot of CPU is to disable it and see the difference that makes |
| 17:04.33 | NeoTron | Industrial: Lesson learned: Should have named it ZenLoot |
| 17:04.37 | kergoth | didnt someone hack aceevent to use seperate frames once? |
| 17:04.47 | nevcairiel | kergoth: yeah it broke like half the trunk |
| 17:04.50 | Industrial | ~lart NeoTron |
| 17:04.50 | purl | pushes the wall down onto NeoTron whilst whistling innocently |
| 17:04.53 | pastamancer | heh |
| 17:04.53 | Anadale | That's was my idea |
| 17:05.03 | pastamancer | I didn't know that had been reverted |
| 17:05.05 | Industrial | NeoTron: Lesson: test without any other addon loaded. |
| 17:05.06 | Anadale | why don't create a separate frame per addon? |
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| 17:05.22 | Industrial | too amny frames |
| 17:05.24 | Xinhuan | because they figured out that having a single frame |
| 17:05.28 | Xinhuan | uses less CPU |
| 17:05.32 | Xinhuan | than having multiple frames |
| 17:05.34 | Cryect | Anadale they did that once |
| 17:05.39 | Xinhuan | when dealing with registered events |
| 17:05.40 | Cryect | was a bug created so reverted |
| 17:05.49 | Cryect | and nobody ever bothered doing it again |
| 17:05.55 | Xinhuan | but having it all in 1 frame requires pcalls() |
| 17:05.59 | Xinhuan | which is an overhead |
| 17:06.08 | CIA-9 | 03cncfanatics * r64862 10FlexBar2_BuffDur/FlexBar2_BuffDur.toc: FlexBar2_BuffDur: Fix TOC |
| 17:06.18 | Xinhuan | but having it in separate frames, requires the wow client to set the "this, event, arg1, ..." globals |
| 17:06.20 | Xinhuan | every time |
| 17:06.39 | Cryect | JJSheets, Expo should always be used I have to say over the worthless profiling that WoW has added |
| 17:06.41 | kergoth | guh, they should deprecate that shit |
| 17:06.43 | ckknight | pcall is a very small overhead, Xinhuan |
| 17:06.45 | kergoth | yell at addons using them |
| 17:06.48 | kergoth | then remove it a few patches later |
| 17:06.51 | nevcairiel | kergoth: expansion :) |
| 17:06.53 | Xinhuan | it is nevertheless, an overhead |
| 17:06.56 | kergoth | heh :) |
| 17:06.58 | Xinhuan | just like setting the globals are |
| 17:07.02 | Xinhuan | its small, but its there |
| 17:07.07 | Ellipsis | expo doesn't work for half the current addons |
| 17:07.11 | nevcairiel | pcall is rather expensive compared to setting lobals |
| 17:07.12 | ckknight | kergoth: which shit are you talking about? |
| 17:07.14 | Cryect | what doesn't it work for? |
| 17:07.14 | JJSheets | Cryect, aw, thank you, I wrote Expo... though I stole much of the profiling code from ckknight. |
| 17:07.24 | kergoth | ckknight: the globals Xinhuan is referring to, arg1, event, etc |
| 17:07.30 | Ellipsis | Cryect: as far as I can tell, anything non-ace2 |
| 17:07.34 | kergoth | they're all passed in now, jujst kept for compatibility |
| 17:07.34 | ckknight | kergoth: oh, right |
| 17:07.47 | ckknight | yea, they should get rid of_G.this and _G.arg1 and all that |
| 17:07.47 | Cryect | Ellipsis, as long as they stick their functions in a table it works fine |
| 17:07.55 | NeoTron | JJSheets: I personally like using Expo to profile my stuff |
| 17:07.56 | Anadale | ok. Another thing I'm trying to understand is why almost everyone aliases global functions with local proxies? Like local UnitName = UnitName? |
| 17:07.57 | ckknight | maybe WoW 3.0? |
| 17:07.59 | JJSheets | Ellipsis, not true, InfiniBar-2.0 is a Rock addon, and I use EExpo with it fine. |
| 17:08.12 | Industrial | I'm always deciding whether "local _G = _G" is worth it. Is there some kind of threshhold to howmany times you will call it that it will become more efficient to use then to leave it away and just index _G as global, or would it always be faster? |
| 17:08.13 | Josh_Borke | Anadale: eleminates a getglobal call |
| 17:08.17 | Ellipsis | expo throws errors with rock addons |
| 17:08.18 | NeoTron | one think I wonder is if the "execution time" for a method is the method + subcalls or the method itself only |
| 17:08.21 | Josh_Borke | Anadale: substitutes getupvalue with getglobal |
| 17:08.21 | kergoth | Anadale: local access is substantially faster than global, so if its in, say, an onupdate.. |
| 17:08.22 | Cryect | I mean if its all global namespace functions then Expo yeah can't do jack shit really unless you really want to profile all of _G |
| 17:08.36 | Xinhuan | basically ckknight, having it all in 1 frame also has the other overhead of having to pairs() over the registered addon objects |
| 17:08.42 | Josh_Borke | oops, had that backwards |
| 17:08.49 | Anadale | ok, thank you |
| 17:09.02 | JJSheets | Ellipsis, odd I haven't seen em. Send me bug reports if you feel like it... maybe I can clean them up. |
| 17:09.02 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, also true |
| 17:09.04 | Cryect | JJSheets, the only feature I wish Expo had was inclusive timing as well |
| 17:09.04 | Josh_Borke | there's not much downside to doing it |
| 17:09.24 | Anadale | goes to proxy all global calls. Will I be a rocket man? |
| 17:09.29 | Ellipsis | JJSheets: try adding PitBull or something to the profiler |
| 17:09.32 | JJSheets | Cryect, by inclusive timing, you mean, time the function and all functions it calls? |
| 17:09.35 | Cryect | Oh also be nice if it tracked how many times a function was called by what but that might be a little expensive (not sure how expensive stack trace is) |
| 17:09.38 | Cryect | yes |
| 17:09.40 | JJSheets | Ellipsis, will do. |
| 17:09.54 | Xinhuan | expensive enough that the wow inbuilt cpu profiler |
| 17:09.56 | Cryect | exclusive is just the function minus the other functions being traccked it calls |
| 17:09.57 | Xinhuan | is pretty slow |
| 17:10.07 | Cryect | which is what you currently have it doing |
| 17:10.19 | Josh_Borke | http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22556281-661,00.html |
| 17:10.31 | Xinhuan | now, if i go to diremaul, and go into the tunnel and stare at the wall, i get 430 fps |
| 17:10.52 | Josh_Borke | someone tell me it's going counter-clockwise |
| 17:10.55 | JJSheets | cool... Thanks for the ideas. * runs off to make a feature request Tiddly Wiki for Expo * |
| 17:10.56 | Xinhuan | in that tunnel, there are no mobs ;p |
| 17:11.10 | Cryect | I should check out how expensive stack trace really is, might not be too bad or it might be awful performance wise |
| 17:11.57 | JJSheets | I have an idea for tracking function calls by function caller... I might be able to get it working. |
| 17:12.12 | Anadale | And is there a really measureable performance boost from replacing globals to upvalues? Or it's just to be a "proper boy"? |
| 17:12.14 | Cryect | well if you only track the namespaces they are tracking its easy |
| 17:12.18 | Cryect | since you just create a stack |
| 17:12.35 | NeoTron | JJSheets: actually another question - the memory per function call, is that inclusive or exclusive? |
| 17:12.36 | Cryect | and whatever is on top of the stack you can say is the caller (or global if the stack is empty) |
| 17:12.40 | NeoTron | that's what I meant to ask |
| 17:12.40 | JJSheets | Yes there is a performance boost in not using globals. |
| 17:12.48 | Xinhuan | Anadale, upvalues are faster, globals is a table lookup to _G |
| 17:12.49 | Yssaril | bah minimap only supports binary masks /cry |
| 17:12.55 | Xinhuan | BUT upvalues and locals cannot be hooked |
| 17:12.56 | JJSheets | NeoTron... probably exclusive, but I'll check. |
| 17:12.58 | Cryect | NeoTron, exclusive |
| 17:13.00 | Industrial | I'm always deciding whether "local _G = _G" is worth it. Is there some kind of threshhold to howmany times you will call it that it will become more efficient to use then to leave it away and just index _G as global, or would it always be faster? |
| 17:13.25 | kergoth | its always faster, its just a question of whether itll be noticable |
| 17:13.35 | NeoTron | so here's a question on performance too |
| 17:13.37 | Cryect | Neotron, you will notice the total memory + load up memory is the total memory of the addon if GC hasn't occured |
| 17:13.38 | Industrial | right |
| 17:13.41 | nevcairiel | Josh_Borke: i really tried to focus, and i cant get it counter-clockwise .. always clockwise for me :P |
| 17:13.51 | Industrial | same here |
| 17:14.11 | NeoTron | local hash = { var1 = true, var2 = true } if hash[someval] vs if someval == "var1" or someval == "var2" |
| 17:14.26 | Xinhuan | one is more extensible than the other |
| 17:14.31 | NeoTron | true |
| 17:14.36 | ckknight | the hash is faster, uses more memory, though |
| 17:14.41 | nevcairiel | really depends on the case |
| 17:14.54 | CIA-9 | 03trasher * r64863 10Proximo2/locals/localization-frFR.lua: |
| 17:14.54 | CIA-9 | Proximo2: |
| 17:14.54 | CIA-9 | - frFR update |
| 17:14.55 | nevcairiel | on a 2-case state, the if is probably better |
| 17:14.57 | ckknight | true, but that's what I found |
| 17:15.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 17:15.16 | Cryect | yeah if you only have like 3 or 4 if's it prolly doesn't matter |
| 17:15.17 | ckknight | we should come up with better tests, tell exactly how much makes it worth it |
| 17:15.18 | nevcairiel | but if you get like 20 states, its simply more readable |
| 17:15.20 | ckknight | :-P |
| 17:15.33 | ckknight | yea, you don't want to sacrifice clarity for speed |
| 17:15.36 | NeoTron | yeah hash wins on readability |
| 17:15.42 | Xinhuan | i used a hash, for 3-states, in bankitems |
| 17:15.46 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:15.55 | Cryect | I can't imagine you are using the hash for speed in bankitems |
| 17:15.56 | Xinhuan | partly because the 3 hash strings are globals |
| 17:16.08 | ckknight | NeoTron: it does not always win, cause the hash would need to be declared outside the function where it's called |
| 17:16.14 | Xinhuan | oh i do, for the tooltip code |
| 17:16.16 | Xinhuan | it has to be fast |
| 17:16.18 | Cryect | oh tooltip code |
| 17:16.19 | NeoTron | right |
| 17:16.29 | Cryect | no you can be like the auctioneer people with whatever tooltip addon they use! |
| 17:16.43 | Xinhuan | i checked GameTooltipTextLeft2 and 3, and compared it against 3 strings |
| 17:16.50 | Xinhuan | to see if the item is soulbound or not |
| 17:17.11 | Xinhuan | "Soulbound", "Quest Item" and "Binds on Pickup" are the 3 strings |
| 17:17.11 | nevcairiel | 3 table lookups compared to 3 string comparisons? |
| 17:17.22 | nevcairiel | somehow i think string comparison wins :P |
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| 17:17.27 | Xinhuan | 1 tabel lookup vs 3 string comparisons |
| 17:17.31 | Xinhuan | not 3 lookups |
| 17:17.33 | nevcairiel | oh right |
| 17:17.35 | nevcairiel | but still |
| 17:17.48 | Xinhuan | those 3 strings are globals, in GlobalStrings.lua |
| 17:17.56 | nevcairiel | local them |
| 17:17.56 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:18.04 | Xinhuan | localing a string.. does that really local it? ;p |
| 17:18.13 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: why would it not ? |
| 17:18.15 | nevcairiel | at least the variable reference |
| 17:18.29 | nevcairiel | so you only get a upvalue lookup, not global lookup |
| 17:18.46 | Xinhuan | well its actually more like 2 tablelookups vs 6 IFs |
| 17:18.55 | Xinhuan | because i check both line2 and line 3 of the tooltip |
| 17:19.00 | Xinhuan | with line2 being checked first |
| 17:19.10 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Xinhuan |
| 17:19.10 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Xinhuan |
| 17:19.29 | ulic | Josh_Borke: wholy moly, she was going counter, then I smashed my face the screen, now she's going clockwise and I can't get her to go the other way. |
| 17:19.38 | nevcairiel | lol ulic |
| 17:19.39 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 17:19.45 | Xinhuan | but anyway, the results of the check is cached |
| 17:19.49 | Xinhuan | so it only does it once per item |
| 17:19.56 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 17:20.00 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: you look at it, maybe a girl brain works the other direction :D |
| 17:20.11 | Ellipsis | ulic: some people say that by thinking of different things like math vs. language you can switch the direction |
| 17:20.15 | Industrial | hehe |
| 17:20.24 | Industrial | nevcairiel: backwards? ;P |
| 17:20.31 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: she tends to go clockwise for me actually, but I can switch her at will |
| 17:20.49 | nevcairiel | i just dont see how she can go counterclockwise |
| 17:20.51 | NeoTron | with two variables, it's almost identical |
| 17:21.07 | Ellipsis | for me I just look at the feet and concentrate on the "front" one being behind the other one |
| 17:21.10 | Ellipsis | and then it clicks |
| 17:21.11 | NivFreak | so last night in TK was funny, two shot Al'ar, one shot VR and Solarian, but wipe 4 times on VR's trash |
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| 17:22.03 | Industrial | Anadale: http://lua-users.org/wiki/OptimisingUsingLocalVariables, http://lua-users.org/wiki/OptimisationTips |
| 17:22.19 | kergoth | she's stuck going clockwise for me |
| 17:22.28 | Anadale | Industrial: ty |
| 17:22.36 | NeoTron | but with 3 (if I need to do 3 comparisions), hash is faster (10s vs 13s in my test) |
| 17:22.52 | Industrial | t[#t+1] = 0 is faster than table.insert(t, 0) |
| 17:22.55 | Industrial | I didnt know this |
| 17:22.55 | Zeksie | is back -( sleep )- gone 13 hr 42 min 15 s |
| 17:22.55 | Xinhuan | are you assuming equal probablylity |
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| 17:23.12 | Xinhuan | of each equality check being true |
| 17:23.26 | Anadale | Hi Zeksie, thank you for the clock icon :) |
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| 17:23.31 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: no. this is worse case. In reality you'll need more "failed" cases for it to be faster |
| 17:23.33 | Industrial | heh, *0.5 is faster then /2 |
| 17:23.38 | Zeksie | :) |
| 17:23.50 | Xinhuan | did you local the table? |
| 17:24.03 | NeoTron | it's local. it's just a test script |
| 17:24.29 | Anadale | And will we see a raid-chat spam? ;) |
| 17:24.40 | NeoTron | basically for 2-3 parameters it doesn't matter for speed in any noticeable way |
| 17:25.13 | Xinhuan | i considered adding a 4th check |
| 17:25.16 | Xinhuan | for "Conjured Item" |
| 17:25.18 | Xinhuan | to ignore |
| 17:26.02 | Nandini | how in the world can *0.5 be faster than /2? aren't they the same operation and both done in floating point |
| 17:26.32 | JJSheets | not the same op. fp divide is more expensive |
| 17:26.52 | Xinhuan | multiply is almost always faster than divide |
| 17:27.08 | Nandini | hmm that's a good thing to remember :) |
| 17:27.15 | NeoTron | just like >> is faster than / |
| 17:27.21 | nevcairiel | stupid x86 architecture |
| 17:27.25 | JJSheets | lol |
| 17:27.37 | nevcairiel | too much legacy code in for compat |
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| 17:27.44 | nevcairiel | they should just scrap that and restart :D |
| 17:27.59 | NeoTron | intel tried.. and failed? |
| 17:28.07 | Nandini | powerpc ftl |
| 17:28.25 | Nandini | go go ibm |
| 17:28.26 | kergoth | x86 is terrible. code some asm for another architecture and then try x86, its like pulling teeth |
| 17:28.37 | Shirik | it's true tbh |
| 17:28.53 | nevcairiel | yeah well they need to get AMD/Intel/IBM and whatnot on one table, together with MS and the *Nix world |
| 17:28.56 | Shirik | x86 is kinda just "take every feature possible and throw it into a box and give it to you" |
| 17:29.25 | Shirik | <3 68HCS12 |
| 17:29.40 | nevcairiel | i have assembler next semester |
| 17:29.44 | Shirik | the 68HC architecture is very easy to learn, if you're trying to learn assembly |
| 17:29.45 | nevcairiel | looks up for which arch |
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| 17:31.16 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 17:31.23 | nevcairiel | the page of that professor doesnt say |
| 17:31.24 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 17:31.29 | Nandini | i just realized blizzard forgot a bag type... food bags! maybe one could even be a fishing net that gives a fishing bonus like quivers do :P |
| 17:31.40 | Nandini | like quivers give ranged bonuses, that is |
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| 17:31.49 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 17:31.50 | kergoth | thatd be nice, i often have a bag full of food, cooked & otherwise |
| 17:31.50 | nevcairiel | nice idea |
| 17:31.52 | NeoTron | problem is going to a new architecture now is HARD due to compatibility reasons |
| 17:32.01 | Shirik | nevcairiel: A lot of classes use either the 68000 or 68HC11 |
| 17:32.05 | NeoTron | I mean even Mac abandoned PPC in favor of X86 |
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| 17:32.26 | JJSheets | I had IBM-360 mainframe assembly back in the day... |
| 17:32.28 | Ellipsis | Nandini: maybe that's one of the reserved bag types :P |
| 17:32.34 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: yeah <.< thats why get MS and *nix on board too, if there is a good OS to start with.. |
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| 17:32.49 | JJSheets | I shudder to think of EBCDIC... |
| 17:32.53 | Shirik | And tbh, the 68HC architecture is found all over the place. I put on my resume that I knew HCS12 and that got me an internship the summer after I learned it |
| 17:32.58 | NeoTron | the OS isn't the (only) issue but all the apps, especially all the apps people already own |
| 17:33.14 | NeoTron | not to mention price/performance |
| 17:33.28 | NeoTron | which I guess is solely why apple made the move (or at least primarily) |
| 17:33.54 | nevcairiel | then just dump the original x86 commands from the modern processors |
| 17:33.59 | nevcairiel | keep everything starting with 486 |
| 17:34.01 | nevcairiel | or whatever |
| 17:34.13 | Nandini | baby taurens are so cute, i love going to mulgore and watching them level up to 10 |
| 17:34.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:34.23 | JJSheets | lol |
| 17:35.00 | Xinhuan | ... |
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| 17:37.00 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r64864 10CoolDownButtons/locales/ (deDE.lua enUS.lua esES.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua): |
| 17:37.00 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 17:37.00 | CIA-9 | - added translations "Pulse effect" |
| 17:40.44 | ulic | hooray, she's going counter-clockwise again, my brain is back to normal. |
| 17:41.15 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:41.25 | Ellipsis | how long have you been staring at that now? |
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| 17:49.44 | Anadale | Another question to LUA gurus :) |
| 17:49.57 | Anadale | What's the main purpose of this construction: |
| 17:50.06 | Anadale | local functioinName |
| 17:50.07 | Anadale | fo |
| 17:50.09 | Anadale | *do |
| 17:50.19 | Anadale | function functionName() ... end |
| 17:50.20 | Anadale | end |
| 17:50.21 | Anadale | ? |
| 17:50.48 | ckknight | no point if you don't have something else in the do block |
| 17:51.12 | Anadale | and with local variables inside the do block - just to create a closure? |
| 17:51.14 | ckknight | if you do, then it'll keep those locals in the do-end scope |
| 17:51.20 | Snago | having local values inside the do ... end block that only that function can access, while still keeping the function itself local outside |
| 17:51.42 | kergoth | its also a ncie grouping mechanism when browsing the code, you know all that is stuff associated with that function, but nothing else |
| 17:51.51 | Anadale | ok. "private"-kind |
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| 18:00.17 | ulic | my eyes are all screwed up now, thanks Josh_Borke |
| 18:00.26 | ulic | check this one out. http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac96667/illusion.htm |
| 18:00.41 | Amadeo | The Frostmourne replica has an RFID chip, so you can't sneak up and decapitate anyone...they can scan for you! |
| 18:02.43 | Cryect | haha |
| 18:02.53 | Cryect | well just stick it in your microwave to blow it out! |
| 18:03.23 | Amadeo | I like electronics, but not that much |
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| 18:06.04 | Kulaar | got a little problem: i "coded" a tiny function and receive a very strange error via buggrabber |
| 18:06.07 | Kulaar | http://ace.pastey.net/83971-20z0 |
| 18:06.13 | Kulaar | perhaps someone can look over it |
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| 18:07.41 | cncfanatics | Kulaar: whats the error message |
| 18:08.08 | Kulaar | tried to call the protected function 'RaidGroupButton33:Hide()'.\n<in C code>: in function `Hide'\nBlizzard_RaidUI\\Blizzard_RaidUI.lua:503: in function `RaidGroupFrame_Update'\nInterface\\FrameXML\\RaidFrame.lua:90: in function `RaidFrame_Update':\nInterface\\FrameXML\\RaidFrame.lua:70: in function `RaidFrame_OnEvent':\nBlizzard_RaidUI\\Blizzard_RaidUI.lua:157: in function <Interface\\AddOns\\Blizzard_RaidUI\\Blizzard_RaidUI.lua:156>\n\n ---" |
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| 18:10.15 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64867 10/tags/AlarModules/: AlarModules |
| 18:10.23 | Stanzilla | lawl |
| 18:11.11 | NeoTron | If you ever wondered how many euros feed 4 dollars meters are here's your answer: http://www.google.com/search?q=4+dollar+meters+in+euro+feet |
| 18:11.37 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07qt2 * r64868 10AlarModules/: QuestTranslator2 |
| 18:11.51 | Amadeo | wow, I was just thinking about that |
| 18:12.00 | NeoTron | s/feed/feet/ |
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| 18:12.43 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07qt2 * r64869 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/: QuestTranslator2 |
| 18:13.13 | Nandini | i suppose that would be useful if you were buying rope to hang yourself in europe, and were familiar with their currency but not their units of length? |
| 18:13.40 | Nandini | "am i getting a good deal on this rope?" |
| 18:13.55 | NeoTron | lol |
| 18:14.18 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64870 10QuestTranslator2/libs/: |
| 18:14.19 | CIA-9 | QuestTranslator2 |
| 18:14.19 | CIA-9 | Changed external reference to AlarLib-3.0 |
| 18:14.47 | NeoTron | also interesting: 1 USD Liter = 2.71 Euro cups |
| 18:14.59 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r64871 10Talented_Scrub/: Talented_Scrub: create directory |
| 18:15.05 | Gnarfoz | metric system / IS = ft |
| 18:15.06 | Gnarfoz | w |
| 18:15.09 | Gnarfoz | etc. |
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| 18:18.10 | Josh_Borke | ulic: np |
| 18:18.12 | CIA-9 | 03jerry * r64873 10Talented_Scrub/ (Talented_Scrub.toc core.lua): Talented_Scrub: Allow to check template using Scrub's check database. |
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| 18:24.19 | Primer | !rating 1574 |
| 18:24.19 | Xinhuan | 1574 rating gives 431(5s), 379(3s) and 327(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 18:35.14 | NeoTron | Zeksie: so will we see X-Perl on wowace too now? |
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| 18:36.59 | Civrock | ^ WTB |
| 18:37.53 | Zeksie | erm... dunno |
| 18:38.26 | Zeksie | cos it seriously won't work as a moduled thing.. well, not without a lot of jiggling. |
| 18:38.38 | Zeksie | so it'd have to be put up as like 15 seperate mods |
| 18:39.21 | Zeksie | maybe when i have a bit more time when ZOMG is more settled |
| 18:39.35 | Zeksie | got the 2.4 version of grim reaper to put up too |
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| 18:41.30 | NeoTron | ah yeah so what will that do? |
| 18:41.46 | NeoTron | can it just query data from the combat log now, rather than keeping the data? |
| 18:42.20 | NeoTron | I admit I stopped using it when I changed to use the data from recount |
| 18:42.28 | NeoTron | mainly because recount had history and such |
| 18:42.30 | Cryect | the combat log is really too short for most people |
| 18:42.56 | Cryect | you can lengthen it but seems pointless to just recording it |
| 18:43.24 | Zeksie | yeah. basically. it stores some health info at timed points, but otherwise reads from log. so you can also mousewheel scroll thru it too now |
| 18:43.34 | Zeksie | and on mouseover, you see the whole combat log line |
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| 18:44.13 | Zeksie | recount is nice for it too. but i like Grim cos it's super quick to see why someone died |
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| 18:45.04 | NeoTron | speaking of dying |
| 18:45.18 | NeoTron | something I wish to have is the list of "ppl who died" being ordered by time |
| 18:45.26 | NeoTron | so you can see who died first on achimonde etc |
| 18:45.54 | NeoTron | I assume though in 2.4 you might be able to just add a "death" combat log entry that lists only players dying |
| 18:46.44 | Zeksie | mmmm. include arch in recount list, select deaths view. alt-click him and click on the outgoing option? |
| 18:46.57 | Zeksie | yeah, you can i think |
| 18:47.16 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 18:47.30 | genetik | it doesn't sort by death time, though |
| 18:47.39 | NeoTron | even if it's hackable, I think the order of deaths is the most interesting way to sort them |
| 18:48.48 | genetik | for that fight and others similar to it, it would be |
| 18:49.21 | genetik | i do like to have it sorted by amount of deaths for overall, though |
| 18:49.42 | NeoTron | agreed |
| 18:49.49 | genetik | maybe that'd be the way to go |
| 18:50.09 | NeoTron | ah |
| 18:50.11 | NeoTron | a graph |
| 18:50.13 | genetik | have it sort by time on individual lists |
| 18:50.13 | NeoTron | death timeline |
| 18:50.25 | Zeksie | stacked view by default maybe |
| 18:50.28 | genetik | but for "all fights", sort by amount |
| 18:50.49 | NeoTron | there's things I'd like such as "MT Health graph" |
| 18:50.51 | genetik | if you have to count how many times someone died in a single fight, something's wrong |
| 18:50.54 | genetik | heh |
| 18:51.03 | NeoTron | so you can see if the MT was mostly dead or mostly topped off |
| 18:51.11 | Zeksie | you mean Dmg vs Healing graph? |
| 18:51.15 | genetik | that'd be pretty cool |
| 18:51.19 | NeoTron | not really |
| 18:51.26 | NeoTron | just a "health of a person" graph |
| 18:51.57 | genetik | it'd take the damage-in and compare to their % to get the plot |
| 18:52.22 | NeoTron | I don't _really_ care how much damage the tank takes or how much healing |
| 18:52.33 | NeoTron | only how much health. it seems sometimes we have cases where the Mt is low A LOT |
| 18:52.40 | NeoTron | and I'd like to be able to visualize it |
| 18:52.50 | genetik | that'd be interesting to watch |
| 18:53.09 | genetik | or look at later |
| 18:53.15 | NeoTron | might be something for a specialized tool though |
| 18:53.23 | genetik | yeah, probably |
| 18:54.21 | NeoTron | just record health every time an event happens to a person, have a graph that goes back 20s or so |
| 18:54.34 | genetik | well, it already records health % |
| 18:54.52 | NeoTron | does it? |
| 18:54.55 | Zeksie | well. grim is storing that atm. and i was playing with the LibGraph thing. i'll look into it |
| 18:54.57 | genetik | can see that in the "events leading up to death" log |
| 18:55.01 | genetik | if you look at death details |
| 18:55.17 | NeoTron | this is more of a live thing rather than the tank died thing :) |
| 18:55.22 | Zeksie | yeah. think he wants the health % included into the general deatails graph |
| 18:55.39 | NeoTron | I don't really use the graphs all that much, just something I've wished I had |
| 18:55.57 | Fisker- | extorts Zeksie for better timers in zomgbuffs as well btw |
| 18:56.07 | NeoTron | an overall graph recording the amount of time the tank was within a certain percentile of health would be handy |
| 18:56.08 | Zeksie | better timers? |
| 18:56.10 | NeoTron | just a summary |
| 18:56.20 | sb_ | eh Zeksie |
| 18:56.21 | genetik | i like watching my recount TPS running graph |
| 18:56.22 | genetik | heh |
| 18:56.24 | sb_ | wtb option to temp. disable pallys |
| 18:56.40 | Zeksie | yeah sb, i'd thought of that. so they're not included in the generated thing? |
| 18:56.56 | NeoTron | sb_: everyone pvping wish they could do that |
| 18:57.09 | Zeksie | heh |
| 18:57.32 | sb_ | yep |
| 18:57.35 | sb_ | because they are standby |
| 18:57.38 | sb_ | but already in raidgrp |
| 18:57.44 | sb_ | or option to disable pallys in grp 6-8 |
| 18:57.47 | Zeksie | had a request for a debuffs module to it too. so warlocks can assign who does what curses or whatever. |
| 18:57.57 | sb_ | and only assign to pallys in group 1-5 |
| 18:58.06 | Zeksie | yeh. that would work too. will think about it |
| 18:58.07 | Fisker- | like a number indicator :o |
| 18:58.21 | Fisker- | i.e. "20:50" for 20 minutes and 50 seconds :O |
| 18:58.32 | Zeksie | oh... you mean on the menu? yeah |
| 18:58.35 | Zeksie | fair point |
| 18:59.03 | Fisker- | yay |
| 18:59.10 | Fisker- | man |
| 18:59.12 | Fisker- | ssc is boring |
| 18:59.32 | NeoTron | Zeksie: so what is the point of that? you can't "auto-cast" anyway when in combat? just for blame reasons? |
| 18:59.55 | Zeksie | <blame target="wow 2.0"/> |
| 19:00.24 | Zeksie | it's all that secure stuff they thought up |
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| 19:03.24 | Zeksie | doing the click config stuff atm, so you can say what mouseclicks to use for target, singles, greaters, whatever |
| 19:03.41 | renchap | is it a guildmap feature in mapster ? or in another addon ? |
| 19:04.32 | kergoth | dont think that feature is in, would probably have to use guildmap, or cartographer_guildpositions (yes, you can use it, just install only the core and that) |
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| 19:05.18 | renchap | i will try this |
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| 19:08.38 | NeoTron | so out of curiosity whyu should you use mapster vs cart? if you have a thing against rock? |
| 19:09.36 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 19:09.40 | Fisker- | can't cast my divine favor again |
| 19:09.43 | Fisker- | frustrating bug |
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| 19:11.37 | sb_ | hmmm and Zeksie, i think there is a prolbem with pallypower |
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| 19:13.32 | Jaxon | NeoTron: why don't you use the addon that provides the features you need. |
| 19:14.29 | NeoTron | Jaxon: I am using cart today. Just curious of mapster has any obvious benefits |
| 19:14.32 | Dashkal | I'm gonna be very glad to get rid of this internet connection tomorrow.... Big city and cable internet -> 30kb/s |
| 19:14.44 | Jaxon | Shorter name. |
| 19:14.47 | NeoTron | I like to not just use the addon that provides what I need but the BEST addon that provides what I need :) |
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| 19:16.11 | NeoTron | ... which is why I'm likely to make a warlock addon if I can't find one I find good enough before I'm "done" with Magic Marker :) |
| 19:16.48 | Arrowmaster | if you code it, i will debug it and tweak it |
| 19:16.49 | kergoth | i use mapster because i'm already using other addons for other carto features, like notes (handynotes) |
| 19:17.11 | durcyn | if someone would cobble together a standalone instance map / boss loot addon, i'd happily replace carto |
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| 19:17.19 | durcyn | and don't say atlas, atlas is painful, atlasloot is worse |
| 19:18.16 | Zeksie | sb_: leave me a message, trash clearing in MH now.... yay |
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| 19:18.23 | Zeksie | is away -( MH )- at 07:18p -( P:On / L:On )- |
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| 19:18.58 | sb_ | Zeksie: same here ;P |
| 19:19.28 | Erica | Anyone else noticed the issue with Cowtip when Skinner is installed... where the health and mana bar textures aren't saved after a relog? |
| 19:20.13 | Arrowmaster | skinner causes all sorts of problems |
| 19:20.58 | Erica | I love the way it looks but yeah I'm getting tired of fighting with it |
| 19:21.00 | clad|office | skinner is the devil |
| 19:21.02 | Arrowmaster | ugg 29474 files to process... this installer is going to take a while |
| 19:22.05 | Erica | Anything you guys recommend to "pretty up" a ui without causing a lot of headaches? |
| 19:22.13 | Xinhuan | skinner "broke" the textures on my IPopbar ;p |
| 19:22.22 | Recluse | pretty up? |
| 19:22.32 | Erica | yeah... like eepanels or something |
| 19:22.46 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck, estimated time for installer to finish 3 hours |
| 19:22.51 | Erica | ouch |
| 19:23.06 | Xinhuan | uh is that program matlab |
| 19:23.12 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:23.20 | Xinhuan | its the only one i know with more than 10k files |
| 19:23.20 | Arrowmaster | its a game |
| 19:23.31 | Xinhuan | matlab in fact has 76k files |
| 19:23.39 | Xinhuan | matlab 8 that is |
| 19:23.47 | Arrowmaster | installer is extracting voice files from the ps2 dvd to use on the pc version |
| 19:25.01 | Arrowmaster | and i even have the ps2 dvd mounted in a virtual drive, i dont want to know how long this would take if i actually had the ps2 dvd |
| 19:26.17 | Matrix110 | if games arent packing their files into smth like .wdb or .pak they have insanely much files |
| 19:27.56 | Cryect | Yeah |
| 19:28.08 | Matrix110 | especially if the game is heavy on voice stuff think Gothic3 has like 50k sound files alone |
| 19:28.48 | Arrowmaster | like i said, unofficial patch copying voice files out of ps2 dvd to use on pc version |
| 19:29.05 | Arrowmaster | i aborted it and will run it before going to bed |
| 19:30.47 | Killmore | do you think 2.4 is tommorow ? |
| 19:31.09 | NivFreak | no way |
| 19:31.25 | pastamancer | nah, not tomorrow |
| 19:31.43 | NivFreak | I'd be suprised if it was next week also |
| 19:32.12 | NeoTron | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3190892530&postId=31902965993&sid=1#2 zomg |
| 19:32.29 | Megalon | Xinhuan: thee shall not underestimate the duration of a mathlab installation! |
| 19:33.13 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 19:33.23 | NivFreak | mmo-champion's armor increase list is wrong |
| 19:33.46 | NivFreak | oh wait |
| 19:33.50 | NeoTron | they need to l2table |
| 19:33.50 | NivFreak | it's just not aligning |
| 19:34.06 | NeoTron | pretty nice "fail" on that list :) |
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| 19:35.05 | Recluse | champs at mmos but noobs at html? |
| 19:36.09 | CIA-9 | 03snago * r64877 10IHML/locales/ (4 files): |
| 19:36.09 | CIA-9 | IHML: |
| 19:36.09 | CIA-9 | - Added /petpassive to the wrangling macro |
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| 19:41.32 | Estil | quick Warlock question: |
| 19:41.39 | Kemayo | Yes, you're op. |
| 19:41.44 | Estil | for PvP, do I really have to bother with maintaining 5% spell hit rate? |
| 19:41.47 | Estil | like melee does for pvp 5% |
| 19:42.06 | DuTempete | actually, you want your 16% hit rate |
| 19:42.16 | Estil | for pvp? |
| 19:42.25 | Arrowmaster | 3% for pvp |
| 19:42.28 | DuTempete | I'm not sure if the caps are the same between the two |
| 19:42.36 | DuTempete | but you want capped for sure |
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| 19:44.19 | Estil | uhh that means I have to wear tons of pve gear |
| 19:44.20 | Estil | D: |
| 19:44.44 | Estil | Arrow: 3% for spell hit in PvP? |
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| 19:44.47 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 19:45.08 | Estil | oh so it'snot 5% like melee |
| 19:45.10 | Estil | okay, thanks |
| 19:45.53 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64881 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc): |
| 19:45.53 | CIA-9 | AlarBGHelper |
| 19:45.53 | CIA-9 | 3.3.6 |
| 19:45.53 | CIA-9 | Fix: Removed error message related to missing Titan template missing when Titan not installed |
| 19:46.24 | NivFreak | A Charitable Donation -- For a donation of 10 gold Anchorite Ayuri will reward you with 150 Shattered Sun Offensive reputation. After the memorial has been built you may continue donating gold for reputation for the daily quest Your Continued Support. |
| 19:46.28 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.33 | NivFreak | now you can buy yourself to exalted! |
| 19:47.00 | Estil | clearly for casuals |
| 19:47.08 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r64882 10GatherHud/GatherHud.lua: GatherHud: Added a missing optimization line for the "Use Camera Pitch" option. Without it, it was redrawing all icons every frame, so CPU usage was 10x higher than necessary. |
| 19:47.13 | NivFreak | ni hao |
| 19:47.35 | Recluse | too bad it's a daily |
| 19:47.37 | NivFreak | yea |
| 19:47.52 | Recluse | hehe |
| 19:47.55 | NivFreak | time to spend that 10K Gold you're sitting on |
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| 19:48.22 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 19:48.26 | NivFreak | so stage 3 for badge loot |
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| 19:49.00 | Recluse | it's hard to find things to do with the gold in game |
| 19:49.23 | NivFreak | I seem to always find something |
| 19:49.32 | NivFreak | that's what alts are for :) |
| 19:49.37 | Recluse | better than pre-bc when it was hard to make, but sheesh, it keeps adding up |
| 19:49.41 | chiper | Recluse: clearly you arent paying attention enough |
| 19:49.55 | Recluse | lol what? XD |
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| 19:50.10 | NivFreak | blizzard's latest trick is to hand you enough new purples that you have to keep buying enchants |
| 19:50.13 | NivFreak | and gems |
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| 19:50.34 | NivFreak | so 2800g gets you to exalted |
| 19:50.43 | chiper | sorry, that sentance fell apart half way, got distracted by a co-worker |
| 19:50.48 | Arrowmaster | srsly ive spend over 700g this week on gear |
| 19:50.50 | NivFreak | 280 days to buy it |
| 19:51.18 | Arrowmaster | got t6 legs and t6 gloves and a new helm from za and then had to buy primals for all my SR gear |
| 19:51.19 | Xinhuan | i spend 5k gold everyday and earn back 6k |
| 19:51.29 | chiper | I have three 70s that still lack epic flyers |
| 19:51.30 | clad|office | Xinhuan is a machin |
| 19:51.32 | clad|office | machine |
| 19:51.40 | Ozguli | Xinhuan controls the auction house |
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| 19:51.43 | Arrowmaster | i know somebody with a 70 that doesnt have a mount at all |
| 19:51.58 | Estil | I have 5 70s and all of them don't have an epic flyer |
| 19:51.59 | chiper | druid? |
| 19:52.03 | Arrowmaster | shaman |
| 19:52.13 | Ozguli | Arrowmaster no lvl 40 mount, nothing? |
| 19:52.15 | Yssaril | ckknight: is it possible to rotate the minimap mask? |
| 19:52.17 | chiper | wha? that's just poor planning |
| 19:52.19 | Arrowmaster | no 40 mount |
| 19:52.22 | ckknight | no it is not, Yssaril |
| 19:52.34 | Ozguli | I can't imagine any possible reason for that |
| 19:52.45 | ckknight | Yssaril: and Blizzard's rotating minimap will be artificially bounded to 140x140 even if you do rotate |
| 19:52.46 | chiper | I take it they never do TK instances, or dailies |
| 19:52.54 | Recluse | i just got my 5th 70 a week or so ago, but only 2 of them have the epic flyer. since the others aren't herb/mine, i didn't see the point |
| 19:52.55 | Arrowmaster | its an alt |
| 19:53.16 | Yssaril | bah |
| 19:53.33 | Ozguli | should pick herbalism for my main and lvl another character, maybe a rogue, to lvl 69 to twink n' craft stuff |
| 19:53.41 | chiper | so, it's not that you dont have things to spend money on, you just dont feel like spending it |
| 19:53.50 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: <3 prospecting |
| 19:54.02 | NeoTron | although I don't have sufficient ore supply to turn around 5-6k a day |
| 19:54.10 | NeoTron | most for a day is probably around 3.5k |
| 19:54.20 | Recluse | well, it seems like a waste to buy an epic mount for a non-gathering character |
| 19:54.29 | Grum | NeoTron: how many different gems? |
| 19:54.30 | Yssaril | NeoTron: you make 3.5kg a day? |
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| 19:55.15 | Recluse | i'm kinda hoping there's something to spend it on in wotlk that's worthwhile |
| 19:55.33 | chiper | NeoTron: is that from gathering, or just AH trading? |
| 19:55.34 | [Liquidor] | Chris Crocker in a Blender -- HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH I'm crying -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ_zfkNcxRQ |
| 19:55.51 | NeoTron | Yssaril: no I've spent 3.5g one day |
| 19:56.19 | NeoTron | and I don't gather |
| 19:56.23 | NeoTron | (for mining) |
| 19:56.35 | chiper | ah, so you buy ore and sell the prospected goods? |
| 19:56.39 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:56.44 | Yssaril | ah |
| 19:56.48 | chiper | I should try that, I dont have a JC yet |
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| 19:56.52 | Xinhuan | pretty much |
| 19:56.55 | NeoTron | and I make rare necks from the dust and disenchant, selling the LPS for 2-7g profit per |
| 19:57.08 | Xinhuan | and i'm the only JC and Enchanter on the server with all cuts and all enchants |
| 19:57.11 | NeoTron | the startup cost is pretty high since you need JCing, and a whole bunch of gem recipies |
| 19:57.18 | chiper | do you have to be a certain level to prospect certain ores? |
| 19:57.22 | NeoTron | yes |
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| 19:57.40 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I only sell a small number, don't have all cuts and haven't seen a need to get more :P |
| 19:57.50 | chiper | darn, that means I'd have to drop something from one of the 70s |
| 19:57.51 | Xinhuan | i cut one of every gem and put it on AH |
| 19:57.55 | Xinhuan | even the unpopular ones |
| 19:58.00 | NeoTron | like I don't have runed living ruby for example |
| 19:58.00 | NeoTron | but it consistently sells for worse than bold or teardrop |
| 19:58.05 | Xinhuan | then undercut every 6 hours |
| 19:58.08 | Xinhuan | or 2 hours |
| 19:58.18 | Xinhuan | so i could have 200-300 gems on AH at any one tim |
| 19:58.19 | Xinhuan | time |
| 19:58.24 | NeoTron | think it's 325 for adamantite |
| 19:58.55 | NeoTron | the prices of ore has gone up to levels where prospecting, on average, is close to break even if not a loss |
| 19:59.03 | NeoTron | how much do you buy stacks for? |
| 19:59.08 | Xinhuan | well the price of ore in my server is funny |
| 19:59.18 | Xinhuan | it was 31g per stack for 2 weeks |
| 19:59.25 | Xinhuan | then i started buying all of them |
| 19:59.29 | Xinhuan | and ppl started mass farming |
| 19:59.31 | Xinhuan | ore |
| 19:59.37 | Xinhuan | and now the price has dropped to 24g |
| 19:59.42 | NeoTron | 31g per stack would be a loss on my server |
| 19:59.51 | NeoTron | but I guess you eat the loss to create the demand |
| 19:59.57 | Recluse | anything over 20g/stack is a loss for me lol |
| 20:00.09 | NeoTron | I payu 25-28g per stack typically |
| 20:00.10 | Xinhuan | 31g is still a profit |
| 20:00.11 | Xinhuan | for me |
| 20:00.16 | NeoTron | usually no higher than 27.5g or so |
| 20:00.19 | Xinhuan | even 36g is a profit for me |
| 20:00.28 | NeoTron | you must have insanely high gem prices |
| 20:00.36 | Xinhuan | you gotta remember every uncommon gem you get can be crafted into rings that can DE |
| 20:00.40 | NeoTron | with the 9-12g talasites, and (now) 22-26g dawnstone.. |
| 20:00.43 | Xinhuan | into dusts and shards and essences |
| 20:00.54 | NeoTron | well sure (I don' do that now though) |
| 20:01.01 | NeoTron | I am saving my green gems for 2.4 |
| 20:01.06 | Xinhuan | my server has 10g talasites, 26g dawnstones, 60g rubies, 35g elunes, etc |
| 20:01.14 | Xinhuan | the green gems aren't worth saving for transmute |
| 20:01.16 | NeoTron | my profit or not calculation has, I admit, not included the disenchanted crap |
| 20:01.19 | Xinhuan | 18 green gems == 1 rare |
| 20:01.30 | Xinhuan | the 18 gems i can DE into 45g worth of enchanting mats |
| 20:01.40 | Xinhuan | wait not that much |
| 20:01.43 | NeoTron | seems high |
| 20:01.56 | Xinhuan | 18 gems is 9 rings, 9 rings == 25 dusts on avg or about 35g worth |
| 20:02.13 | NeoTron | remember though that 2 of the 6 green gems are unusable for rings |
| 20:02.22 | NeoTron | and that oen ring requires 3 green gems |
| 20:02.35 | NeoTron | so you get 2 useless greens and 1 that is used half as much |
| 20:02.43 | Xinhuan | you forget that lots of alchemists like to transmute |
| 20:03.02 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 20:03.02 | Xinhuan | i usually put up green gems for like |
| 20:03.12 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 20:03.14 | NivFreak | that reminds me |
| 20:03.15 | Grum | <Xinhuan> so i could have 200-300 gems on AH at any one tim <-- how many per gem do you post per time? |
| 20:03.16 | Xinhuan | stacks of 3 |
| 20:03.18 | NivFreak | I should farm primals for xmutes |
| 20:03.19 | Xinhuan | for them to buy |
| 20:03.46 | NeoTron | I need to do the math on the green gem stuff |
| 20:03.55 | NeoTron | should make a profit spreadsheet |
| 20:04.03 | Xinhuan | its definititely a profit ;p |
| 20:04.07 | NeoTron | using estimates but still |
| 20:04.12 | Xinhuan | especially since a ring can DE into 1 GPE |
| 20:04.15 | Xinhuan | which is worth 8g |
| 20:04.18 | Xinhuan | with 20% chance |
| 20:04.35 | NeoTron | I don't think the essences are 8g on my server |
| 20:04.50 | NeoTron | I know green rings are a profit |
| 20:04.59 | NeoTron | I just haven't checked to see how they compare to blue gems |
| 20:05.00 | kergoth | i <3 transmute earthstorm |
| 20:05.10 | CIA-9 | 03jncl * r64884 10Skinner/ (19 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:05.10 | CIA-9 | Skinner: Skinned Ace2, Ace3, BeastTraining, BetterInBox, Butsu & myClock |
| 20:05.10 | CIA-9 | - Updated Chinchilla, CT_RaidAssist, Examiner, GroupCalendar & Outfitter |
| 20:05.10 | CIA-9 | - Bugfix for IPopBar , RockConfig, ReputationBar, TipTac, buttonSkinning |
| 20:05.10 | CIA-9 | - PTR2.4 Skinned ChatConfigFrame |
| 20:05.25 | Xinhuan | wow he actually fixed skinner issue for ipopbar |
| 20:06.27 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 20:06.43 | NeoTron | I think we have at least 4-5 JC prospectors in my guild alone |
| 20:06.54 | NeoTron | that actively farm the AH for ore etc |
| 20:06.54 | Xinhuan | its profitable |
| 20:07.01 | NeoTron | it is yes |
| 20:07.05 | Xinhuan | the only difference is, i do it on a scale that far exceeds anyone else on the server |
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| 20:07.16 | NeoTron | before I started I had never had >5k gold since I got my epic mount |
| 20:07.19 | Xinhuan | and on every gem type, uncommon, rare, epic |
| 20:07.30 | NeoTron | I did uncommons for a while but it was just painful |
| 20:07.36 | NeoTron | sometimes very profitable |
| 20:07.43 | NeoTron | like 3-4g for a green "bold" gem |
| 20:08.30 | NivFreak | heh, our mages and warlocks are fighting because someone got greedy with CoD and screwed them out of CoE |
| 20:08.33 | NivFreak | love it |
| 20:10.46 | NeoTron | I might not have 70000 gold but I do have 15k + an extra epic mount + 1200g transferred to horde side. started with 1k gold so it's over 20kg profit. not too shabby |
| 20:10.55 | NeoTron | would be a lot higher if the supply of ore was better |
| 20:11.20 | kergoth | i cant be bothered to cut & sell uncommon, just more trouble than its worth |
| 20:11.47 | NivFreak | you can't even sell the uncommon ones on my server |
| 20:11.52 | ulic | that's why 2.4 will rock, turn the greens into blues. |
| 20:11.52 | NivFreak | they just don't sell |
| 20:12.03 | NivFreak | in fact, people have started shoving them in the guild bank |
| 20:12.08 | NivFreak | which is bugging me |
| 20:12.22 | kergoth | i just vendor em uncut usually, or occasionally sell a 20 stack to another aspiring jc'er |
| 20:12.27 | ulic | I hate when the tards put peacebloom and silverleaf the guild bank. |
| 20:12.38 | NivFreak | yea, I wish I had a blacklist |
| 20:12.42 | NivFreak | for things I don't want in there |
| 20:12.47 | genetik | i'd love that feature |
| 20:12.54 | NivFreak | also, I want to partition the space up better |
| 20:12.58 | genetik | prevent people from putting +20 sta food in there rather than +30 |
| 20:13.10 | NivFreak | I want to allow people to pull a stack of pots, a stack of food, and maybe 1 mark of illidari out |
| 20:13.13 | ulic | at least maybe the 'info' tabs in 2.4 might help if people take the time to read them. |
| 20:13.15 | NivFreak | per raid |
| 20:13.16 | NeoTron | kergoth: for the love of god, do not vendor them ! |
| 20:13.23 | NivFreak | which isn't daily, and I don't have enough tabs for that |
| 20:13.24 | NivFreak | =/ |
| 20:13.39 | NeoTron | at the very least save them (for 2.4) or, as it might be more profitable, make rings to disenchant |
| 20:13.42 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r64885 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Add Ace options for: [1] lock PiraPlex [2] lock all Deps. Previously, these options were available only through the GUI. |
| 20:13.48 | kergoth | yea, i havent vendored any since haering about 2.4 |
| 20:14.12 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64886 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:14.12 | CIA-9 | AlarLib-3.0 |
| 20:14.12 | CIA-9 | Standardized layout |
| 20:14.12 | CIA-9 | Renamed AlarLib-3.0.lua to AlarCore-3.0.lua |
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| 20:15.26 | Stanzilla | o m g |
| 20:15.48 | genetik | does anyone even use that Alar stuff? |
| 20:15.58 | Stanzilla | I hope not^^ |
| 20:15.59 | NeoTron | so who is this Alar fellow anyway? |
| 20:16.43 | Xinhuan | there are ppl that recommend his alar bg helper addon on the Ui forums |
| 20:16.48 | Xinhuan | over Capping ;p |
| 20:16.54 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 20:17.43 | Vangual | i like bg helper, but its windowing is too buggy |
| 20:18.37 | Vangual | and it kept saving complete frame data in its anchoring settings resulting in 20+mb SV files :( |
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| 20:18.57 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 20:19.14 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 20:19.27 | genetik | wow |
| 20:19.32 | Vangual | could nicely see a complete dump of recounts runtime memory just about where he did a GetPoint() for position saving |
| 20:20.43 | NeoTron | wait |
| 20:20.51 | NeoTron | he's saving ALL frames' data? |
| 20:21.03 | Xinhuan | GetPoint() returns a frame reference |
| 20:21.10 | Xinhuan | so if he saves that |
| 20:21.27 | Xinhuan | it is basically saving the entire frame + all its functions |
| 20:21.48 | NeoTron | but why would it save recount's stuff? |
| 20:22.28 | Vangual | worst part is I never manually set it to anchor to recount or anything, the window was just dragged (too?) close to recounts window. It's all really weird but kept happening after several SV nukes |
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| 20:23.47 | NeoTron | wait so he snaps his addon to recount and thus .. saves recount data? |
| 20:23.53 | NeoTron | sounds very magical :P |
| 20:24.07 | Xinhuan | correct |
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| 20:24.50 | Xinhuan | because recount's subframes are creates as frame.blah = createframe() |
| 20:24.53 | Xinhuan | so subframes get saved too |
| 20:24.57 | Xinhuan | and the graphs in recount |
| 20:24.59 | Xinhuan | store data |
| 20:25.04 | Xinhuan | in graph.blah |
| 20:25.06 | Xinhuan | etc etc |
| 20:25.14 | Vangual | tried tracing where about he does his saving but the library is quite... yea |
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| 20:25.37 | Xinhuan | alarlib is a running joke in this channel |
| 20:25.46 | Cryect | AlarLib is trying to assimilate REcount don't resist |
| 20:26.03 | Vangual | the SV sure looked like that |
| 20:26.20 | NeoTron | all your frames are belong to AlarLib^H^H^HCore |
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| 20:27.33 | NeoTron | does Ace3 have an "about" box like Ace2 does? |
| 20:27.52 | sag_ich_nicht | stabs Zeksie |
| 20:28.17 | Cryect | If it doesn't use AlarCore to make it |
| 20:29.09 | NeoTron | great idea |
| 20:29.24 | Hjalte | The maintank of my guild updated Omen and now he doesn't show up on anyones threat meters. He downloaded the most recent curse version it seems. |
| 20:29.29 | HIghoS | !points 912 |
| 20:29.29 | Xinhuan | 912 arena points require 1899(5s), 1986(3s) and 2125(2s) team rating. |
| 20:29.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Hjalte: he shouldn't do that. |
| 20:29.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Hjalte: http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip |
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| 20:29.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 20:29.49 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 20:29.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Antiar1 |
| 20:29.51 | purl | --purges Antiar1 |
| 20:30.01 | sag_ich_nicht | update the damn curse page antiarc |
| 20:30.52 | Zedde | imo use WAU for all ace plugins there is :) |
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| 20:36.55 | [dRaCo] | is it still possible to crash wow with an addon? |
| 20:37.24 | NivFreak | seems so |
| 20:37.29 | Megalon | [dRaCo]: it's even possible to crash it with a macro, so i guess yes ;) |
| 20:37.47 | NivFreak | item2phpbb would crash wow on my mac every time I'd scan |
| 20:37.52 | NivFreak | of course now it doesn't even load ;) |
| 20:38.51 | Xinhuan | yes there are still some crash bugs ;p |
| 20:39.37 | Chompers | Hjalte: curse is old never use it |
| 20:39.44 | Chompers | ever ever ever ever |
| 20:39.48 | Hjalte | Chompers: Yeah, I told him that now. |
| 20:39.53 | Chompers | EVER |
| 20:40.09 | Recluse | lol |
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| 20:48.24 | Zeksie | man i hate azgalor.. |
| 20:48.25 | Zeksie | is back -( MH )- gone 1 hr 30 min 2 s |
| 20:48.40 | Zeksie | every damned fire on top of me. |
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| 20:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Zeksie disabling whispers from ZOMGBuffs breaks my whispering. |
| 20:51.41 | sag_ich_nicht | your hooking is doing something very wrong |
| 20:51.46 | sag_ich_nicht | or the unhooking |
| 20:52.25 | NivFreak | man, next time I do solarian, if we only have 24 people, I'm not bringing in a replacement |
| 20:52.47 | NivFreak | of course the person we brought into fill nearly killed the raid |
| 20:52.56 | NivFreak | luckily, everyone was expecting it and scattered from them |
| 20:53.03 | keiss | giggles |
| 20:53.37 | Arrowmaster | oh man solarian, if we ever do solarian again were planing to open a portal to org before the fight and whoever gets the debuff takes the port, we want to see if we can kill people in org |
| 20:53.54 | Yssaril | rofl |
| 20:54.00 | Xinhuan | you won't have time |
| 20:54.02 | Xinhuan | 6 seconds only |
| 20:54.02 | Dashkal | remembers the plague outbreak |
| 20:54.04 | keiss | yeah |
| 20:54.05 | Yssaril | remember the plague? |
| 20:54.08 | Xinhuan | the loading will take more than that |
| 20:54.17 | Cryect | 6 seconds then it jumps to a new person |
| 20:54.24 | [Ammo] | not anymore |
| 20:54.24 | Xinhuan | it only jumps to party members |
| 20:54.26 | [Ammo] | it's like geddon bomb |
| 20:54.29 | Cryect | oh thats dumb |
| 20:54.35 | Cryect | I've not done solarian in so long :( |
| 20:54.40 | Cryect | or actually :) |
| 20:54.44 | Yssaril | they fixed that real fast back in the day :P |
| 20:55.12 | Arrowmaster | i used to have the debuff from the lbrs spider on one of my minions |
| 20:55.33 | NivFreak | haha |
| 20:55.36 | NivFreak | so we actually went to MC |
| 20:55.42 | NivFreak | for a solarian training session |
| 20:56.01 | NivFreak | because we had a couple of people who apparently can't figure out which way is AWAY from the raid |
| 20:56.09 | Dashkal | Heh, found it: (The plague) http://wowwiki.com/Corrupted_Blood |
| 20:56.16 | Arrowmaster | we were doing an 8 man (or something like that) mc and wiped on geddon |
| 20:56.25 | Arrowmaster | i was on my 59 rogue |
| 20:56.26 | NivFreak | man |
| 20:56.35 | NivFreak | you know those dogs that you have to kill at the same time? |
| 20:56.41 | NivFreak | the packs |
| 20:56.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 20:56.48 | Arrowmaster | we never killed them |
| 20:56.49 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB an addon that completely covers the worldframe with black |
| 20:56.51 | NivFreak | the first pack, I swear, we went OOM |
| 20:56.58 | NivFreak | because this hunter was FF one of them |
| 20:57.00 | NivFreak | over and over |
| 20:57.09 | NivFreak | we're SCREAMING at him on vent |
| 20:57.12 | NivFreak | and he just kept doing it |
| 20:57.13 | Arrowmaster | we just killed dogs as they respawned and never tried killing mag |
| 20:57.18 | Fisker- | Zeksie |
| 20:57.32 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html |
| 20:57.36 | NivFreak | We had 10ish people |
| 20:57.37 | NivFreak | it was fun |
| 20:57.44 | NivFreak | went to barron and stopped |
| 20:57.49 | CIA-9 | 03morgalm * r64887 10/tags/MorgBid/: |
| 20:57.49 | CIA-9 | MorgBid: |
| 20:57.49 | CIA-9 | - Tag v3.5 |
| 20:57.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke: are you shitting me?# |
| 20:57.57 | sag_ich_nicht | -# |
| 20:57.58 | sag_ich_nicht | awesome |
| 20:58.03 | Arrowmaster | we goto shaz |
| 20:58.05 | NivFreak | I ended up MH and MT on one because both the other two died, and I was dual boxing |
| 20:58.11 | mikma | what the hell |
| 20:58.19 | NivFreak | it's fun to fill both roles at the same time! |
| 20:58.22 | mikma | 3 lines for a simple commit like that :D |
| 20:58.35 | Josh_Borke | mikma: cry me a river n00b |
| 20:58.43 | Arrowmaster | our MT solos AQ40 trash now |
| 20:58.47 | NivFreak | hah |
| 20:58.51 | mikma | Josh_Borke: ( ) <- imagine me crying |
| 20:58.53 | NivFreak | the big guys?" |
| 20:58.55 | NivFreak | at the gate |
| 20:58.56 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:58.58 | Xinhuan | what, even the 4-bug guys first pull? |
| 20:58.58 | mikma | Josh_Borke: now, try to think it's real |
| 20:59.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke: now give me a way to toggle that manually and not have it toggle when i'm losing control |
| 20:59.00 | Arrowmaster | the 4 packs |
| 20:59.07 | mikma | Josh_Borke: now... you failed. |
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| 20:59.11 | Arrowmaster | he solos them |
| 20:59.45 | Arrowmaster | with ashtounge exalted trinket and other self healing items |
| 21:00.09 | Arrowmaster | said it took like 30 minutes to kill one 4 pack though |
| 21:00.17 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: read. |
| 21:00.21 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: the. |
| 21:00.24 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 21:00.24 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: code. |
| 21:00.30 | NivFreak | pally? |
| 21:00.36 | Arrowmaster | warrior |
| 21:00.40 | NivFreak | weird |
| 21:00.51 | NivFreak | I have to admit I haven't tried it |
| 21:00.55 | NivFreak | but I don't have any t6 :) |
| 21:01.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Josh_Borke: can't. be. arsed. |
| 21:01.17 | Josh_Borke | sag_ich_nicht: cry a river with mikma |
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| 21:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | assault mikma |
| 21:03.55 | mikma | does bubble + hs |
| 21:04.19 | CIA-9 | 03morgalm * r64888 10/tags/MorgDKP/: |
| 21:04.19 | CIA-9 | MorgDKP: |
| 21:04.19 | CIA-9 | - Tag v6.45 |
| 21:05.37 | Zeksie | Fisker-: 10 mins, just gotta kill archi then we're done |
| 21:05.40 | Zeksie | is away -( Archi )- at 09:05p -( P:On / L:On )- |
| 21:08.48 | durcyn | !ap 1500 |
| 21:09.02 | sag_ich_nicht | hs THEN bubble and catches mikma in the inn |
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| 21:11.24 | Pkekyo| | sodding hell...one of my camera lenses has gone tits up >.< |
| 21:12.25 | Orionshock | ? instead of tits down? |
| 21:12.46 | *** part/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 21:12.51 | Fisker- | TITS?! |
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| 21:14.37 | sag_ich_nicht | some people fail at british english |
| 21:14.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Orionshock and Fisker- included |
| 21:15.20 | Orionshock | meh, i live in the US. |
| 21:15.22 | Orionshock | :P |
| 21:17.52 | Fisker- | hey fu |
| 21:18.01 | Fisker- | i know it |
| 21:18.05 | Fisker- | i'm just obvious trolling |
| 21:18.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ya rite |
| 21:18.35 | Fisker- | though i only remember to variations of it |
| 21:18.42 | Fisker- | a bird and slang for being an idiot |
| 21:18.48 | Fisker- | which both doesn't make sense in that context |
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| 21:20.29 | Tem | Fisker-, your grasp of engrish is astonishing |
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| 21:20.50 | Fisker- | yes |
| 21:20.52 | Fisker- | I AM AWESOME |
| 21:21.00 | Fisker- | oh |
| 21:21.01 | Fisker- | forgot |
| 21:21.02 | Tem | fucking up plurality rules is 6 year old stuff |
| 21:21.03 | Fisker- | TITS = BOOBIES |
| 21:21.20 | Fisker- | hey fu |
| 21:21.34 | Tem | also, to/two/too |
| 21:21.35 | Zeksie | right. all done. what's up? |
| 21:21.36 | Zeksie | is back -( Archi )- gone 15 min 55 s |
| 21:21.38 | Tem | LEARN THEM GODDAMNIT |
| 21:21.48 | Xinhuan | ~dict tits |
| 21:22.07 | Xinhuan | ~dict tit |
| 21:22.37 | CIA-9 | 03ascalia * r64889 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 21:22.37 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 21:22.37 | CIA-9 | - fixed item name (ZA) |
| 21:22.39 | thul | ~vagoo |
| 21:22.47 | thul | ~dict vagoo |
| 21:23.13 | Zeksie | Fisker-- ? you asked for me. |
| 21:24.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Zeksie you got my 2 messages? |
| 21:24.11 | sag_ich_nicht | or 3 for that matter |
| 21:24.33 | Zeksie | something about whispering? |
| 21:24.41 | Tuller | hey tem, I'd hate to loose the fight :) |
| 21:25.09 | Fisker- | oh yeah Zeksie |
| 21:25.14 | Tem | Tuller, huh? |
| 21:25.28 | Fisker- | seems like sometimes pallypower have problems accepting single assignments(exceptions) |
| 21:25.29 | Tuller | loose instead of lose, since you were on a grammar tirade |
| 21:25.41 | Tem | oh |
| 21:25.44 | Tem | yeah |
| 21:25.52 | Zeksie | Fisker-, you have to be promoted. else it'll ignore em |
| 21:25.54 | Tem | I actually didn't even notice |
| 21:25.58 | Tem | :( |
| 21:26.05 | Fisker- | yeah i was promoted |
| 21:26.07 | Tem | it's the easy ones that bother me |
| 21:26.10 | Fisker- | and it got normal blessings |
| 21:26.12 | Tem | their/there/they're |
| 21:26.13 | Fisker- | just not single |
| 21:26.15 | Tem | to/two/too |
| 21:26.18 | Zeksie | hmmmmz.. |
| 21:26.18 | Tem | your/you're |
| 21:26.34 | Zeksie | tested that a fair bit last nite and it was doing ok. |
| 21:26.49 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 21:27.02 | Fisker- | had to broadcast a fair bit of times |
| 21:27.10 | Fisker- | could be a pallypower display issue though |
| 21:27.27 | Zeksie | could well be, not found a reliable way to make it refresh if they ppl aren't all displayed |
| 21:29.12 | NeoTron | Tem: I am wearing a louse sweater ! |
| 21:29.23 | NeoTron | because lose/loose is not fun enough |
| 21:29.25 | Tem | that's pretty grose |
| 21:29.30 | Tem | gross* |
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| 21:29.48 | Tem | aparently my pawing at the keyboard is pretty inaccurate today |
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| 21:32.09 | Chompers | Fisker-! |
| 21:32.14 | Fisker- | Chompers! |
| 21:32.14 | Chompers | slash hugs |
| 21:32.17 | Fisker- | slash hugs |
| 21:33.01 | NeoTron | how sad |
| 21:33.05 | Xinhuan | stabs Fisker- with a pillow |
| 21:35.21 | Fisker- | lyingatmyfeetcat is watching me masturbate |
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| 21:35.53 | JJSheets | TMI |
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| 21:40.23 | Chompers | any tips for melee on the akama fight? |
| 21:40.44 | Chompers | do i just go nuts on the channelers? |
| 21:41.07 | NeoTron | yes |
| 21:42.12 | Zeksie | yes |
| 21:42.14 | Chompers | mobs from the side keep helping them out, do we go for them first or deal with them after the channelers? |
| 21:42.20 | NeoTron | no |
| 21:42.35 | Zeksie | channelers, then sorcerers. he'll start moving when there's only 1 or 2 beams on him |
| 21:42.35 | NeoTron | rather, 1) channelers, 2) the other ones |
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| 21:43.16 | NeoTron | although technically speaking I don't know if it really matters which ones you kill first |
| 21:43.16 | Chompers | oh okay |
| 21:43.21 | Chompers | the mobs from the sides zerged the raid |
| 21:43.24 | NeoTron | just need to dps them faster than they come up there |
| 21:43.29 | Chompers | ah well, res time |
| 21:43.39 | NeoTron | 1-2 tank, 3 DPS per side is how we roll |
| 21:43.51 | NeoTron | mage/hunter race nice for sheep / slow trap etc |
| 21:43.54 | Chompers | rogue doing 1400dps on them :O |
| 21:43.59 | Chompers | damn rogues and their dps |
| 21:44.38 | sag_ich_nicht | huh |
| 21:44.49 | sag_ich_nicht | rogues can do more than that |
| 21:44.59 | Xinhuan | if u do heroism rotation |
| 21:45.04 | NeoTron | if you're starting to work on akama, most likely not |
| 21:45.21 | Xinhuan | you'll win in no time |
| 21:46.12 | Chompers | ooh, time for another attempt |
| 21:46.25 | Hjalte | Illidari Council takes aaaaaages >.< |
| 21:46.32 | NeoTron | boring fight (TM) |
| 21:46.39 | NeoTron | it's the obligatory "endurance fight" |
| 21:47.00 | Fisker- | ... |
| 21:47.06 | Fisker- | a hunter died at 5% on a boss |
| 21:47.08 | Fisker- | due to aggro |
| 21:47.14 | NeoTron | yes? |
| 21:47.14 | NivFreak | man, I have one lock doing almost 1500dps, next closest was ~1000dps |
| 21:47.26 | NeoTron | NivFreak: what's wrong with the second lock? |
| 21:47.28 | NivFreak | and he doesn't have any SSC/TK/Hyjal/BT drops |
| 21:47.33 | Chompers | a true huntard |
| 21:47.35 | NivFreak | #2 is actually a BM hunter |
| 21:47.50 | NeoTron | BM hunters are very competetive if they know WTF they are doing |
| 21:47.59 | NivFreak | this guy is a complete idiot |
| 21:47.59 | NeoTron | ...and the fight isn't archimonde.. |
| 21:48.04 | NivFreak | i'm amazed he's always top 3 |
| 21:48.14 | NeoTron | all you need is a good macro |
| 21:48.17 | NivFreak | I guess |
| 21:48.22 | Chompers | Fisker-s guild killed him, he must be easy |
| 21:48.26 | NivFreak | he app'd to us as surivival |
| 21:48.29 | NivFreak | survival |
| 21:48.36 | NeoTron | one of our hunters is survival |
| 21:48.37 | NivFreak | failed amazingly badly |
| 21:48.46 | NivFreak | he respec'd BM and was #2 dps |
| 21:48.52 | NivFreak | so we took him as BM |
| 21:48.58 | NivFreak | but he's the one that can't pay attention |
| 21:49.14 | NivFreak | heaven forbid he get a bomb, or a flame patch under him |
| 21:49.17 | NivFreak | or anything like that |
| 21:49.18 | NeoTron | we're letting 1 out of 4 hunters raid as survival |
| 21:49.22 | Zhinjio | any educated thoughts on 2.4 release date? |
| 21:49.27 | NeoTron | but come sunwell we'll need ppl to do the most DPS they can |
| 21:49.28 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: soon |
| 21:49.40 | NeoTron | which from what I've heard might nto be BM on a fight like brutallus |
| 21:49.42 | Zhinjio | like, tomorrow soon or next week or? |
| 21:50.07 | NivFreak | NeoTron: survival value is still lost on me |
| 21:50.18 | NivFreak | but maybe it's because we run ranged heavy |
| 21:50.32 | NeoTron | more physical DPS is never bad |
| 21:50.34 | NivFreak | last night, aside from tanks we had 1 rogue, and 1 enh shaman |
| 21:50.37 | NeoTron | it adds TPS too |
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| 21:51.12 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/jfv5akfdszsx1?s=6284-6606 <-- odd occurance |
| 21:51.14 | NivFreak | it was kind of silly |
| 21:51.22 | NivFreak | 3 warlocks, 5 mages, 3 hunters |
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| 21:51.25 | Chompers | dead :< |
| 21:51.31 | NivFreak | 2 shadow priests |
| 21:51.47 | NivFreak | man, I can't find a good shadow priest to save my life |
| 21:52.10 | NeoTron | NivFreak: of course survival benefits.. physical DPS, not melee DPS |
| 21:52.14 | NeoTron | so it benefits hunters |
| 21:52.17 | NivFreak | sure |
| 21:52.18 | NivFreak | a bit |
| 21:52.20 | NeoTron | but I'm not convinced it's useful |
| 21:52.31 | NivFreak | well |
| 21:52.36 | NeoTron | our seems to top out around 1300 DPS |
| 21:52.40 | NivFreak | when you take a hunter that's doing 1200DPS as BM |
| 21:52.47 | NivFreak | and he goes survival and does 650dps |
| 21:52.50 | NivFreak | it's clear that's a loss to me |
| 21:53.00 | Chompers | that's my dps :D |
| 21:53.15 | Chompers | hurr :v |
| 21:53.40 | NeoTron | I am unsure how much the debuff adds |
| 21:53.44 | chiper | yeah, I dont get the point of survival either |
| 21:53.47 | NeoTron | but as I said, we're farming now don't need the DPS |
| 21:53.53 | chiper | melee hunter? wha? |
| 21:53.55 | NeoTron | come 2.4 we might even have hunters to MM |
| 21:54.16 | vithos | survival is a much more difficult spec to play than BM, it shouldn't be a 50% personal dps difference like that |
| 21:54.38 | NivFreak | vithos: yes, I'm sure |
| 21:54.47 | vithos | but i think survival can be worth it, it just depends on how much physical dps you bring to raids |
| 21:55.06 | NivFreak | I think we average 4-6 physical DPS |
| 21:55.22 | Orionshock | what is MM now the nub spec and not worth being anymore?? |
| 21:55.26 | chiper | I imagine it's rather much like enhance shammy vs elemental shammy. radical change in play |
| 21:55.32 | vithos | MM is pretty much the PvP spec now |
| 21:55.32 | Orionshock | come on it's the preBC spec |
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| 21:55.52 | NivFreak | Well, BM seems pretty simple to me |
| 21:55.57 | CIA-9 | 03morgalm * r64892 10MorgBid/ (MorgBid.lua MorgBid.toc): |
| 21:55.57 | CIA-9 | MorgBid: |
| 21:55.57 | CIA-9 | - Cleaned up frame management |
| 21:55.57 | CIA-9 | - Added maxbid support to BidWar so canât exceed max bid |
| 21:55.58 | CIA-9 | - Bumped TOC |
| 21:55.58 | NivFreak | so I'd imagine anything else being a PITA |
| 21:56.27 | Orionshock | vithos: what happened?? BM was the PvP spec and MM was the raid spec... where did it all go wrong :| |
| 21:56.34 | vithos | i raid BM spec, and do very well (with a spam macro) |
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| 21:56.43 | chiper | orion: they made BM better |
| 21:56.48 | vithos | but i wish they'd just desync autoshot from specials |
| 21:56.51 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 21:56.54 | vithos | i'd much rather not use a macro |
| 21:57.15 | Orionshock | wtb WoW that relies more on skill than class |
| 21:58.00 | chiper | isnt that the point of the tourney realm? |
| 21:58.03 | NivFreak | hunters have it pretty good |
| 21:58.11 | NivFreak | nothing like a raid spec that's good for farming and pvp |
| 21:58.19 | NivFreak | (maybe not arena, but whatever) |
| 21:58.21 | vithos | BM isn't good for pvp |
| 21:58.22 | Orionshock | meh chiper , arenas need to be removed from the game |
| 21:58.42 | NivFreak | vithos: it's good, not as strong as MM but certainly not crippled |
| 21:58.47 | vithos | well yeah |
| 21:58.48 | NivFreak | this is coming from a prot warrior of course ;P |
| 21:58.54 | vithos | i thought you meant real pvp at first, arena |
| 21:58.56 | chiper | meh, as someone who plays a hunter, I disagree. finding groups pre-endgame is a pain in the ass |
| 21:59.02 | NivFreak | "real pvp" |
| 21:59.03 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:59.04 | chiper | that's why I went back to my mage |
| 21:59.12 | vithos | battlegrounds... don't count. i wear t6 instead of s3 in there |
| 21:59.24 | NivFreak | hah |
| 21:59.44 | NivFreak | I got jin'rohk and respec'd MS for the first time in months |
| 21:59.46 | NivFreak | that thing is so silly |
| 22:00.07 | NivFreak | I'm one nether from a stormhearld, and suddenly I'm not sure if I want it =x |
| 22:00.15 | chiper | been quite happy with my shammy tho. solo as enhancement for a while, respec resto for a weekend and find all the groups I want, then respec back to enhance and quest some more. |
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| 22:00.55 | Morgalm | I apologise for the incoming spam lol |
| 22:01.06 | chiper | then dont do it |
| 22:01.33 | Orionshock | Morgalm: ace.pastey.net |
| 22:01.34 | Orionshock | use it |
| 22:01.48 | chiper | ok, break over, time to get back to work |
| 22:01.49 | NivFreak | http://wowwebstats.com/y6fppikmn5ngy <-- guess who the trials are |
| 22:02.27 | NivFreak | errrr |
| 22:02.32 | NivFreak | http://wowwebstats.com/y6fppikmn5ngy?s=9965-10362 |
| 22:02.38 | CIA-9 | 03morgalm * r64893 10MorgDKP/ (20 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:02.38 | CIA-9 | MorgDKP: |
| 22:02.38 | CIA-9 | - Added standby mode when not in tracked zone |
| 22:02.38 | CIA-9 | - Added new icon |
| 22:02.38 | CIA-9 | - Added one event raid tracking (all items in one run event no bosskills tracked) |
| 22:02.38 | CIA-9 | - Added âjust enoughâ mode for BidWar (winner is charged 2nd highest bid price) |
| 22:02.42 | CIA-9 | - Can now delete members from the database (CTRL-click listdkp tablet) |
| 22:04.43 | vithos | the mage who died? |
| 22:05.14 | vithos | hmm.. how do you get the anonymous url on wws anymore? i thought it used to be at the bottom |
| 22:05.34 | vithos | oh, manage report |
| 22:06.12 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r64894 10aX_RaidStatus/ (3 files): |
| 22:06.12 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
| 22:06.12 | CIA-9 | - Add koKR localization |
| 22:07.47 | Kulaar | 2.4 tomorrow ? |
| 22:07.53 | Kulaar | what do you think? |
| 22:07.59 | nevcairiel | unpossible! |
| 22:08.04 | erzy | no |
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| 22:08.19 | Chompers | 2.4 is tomorrow |
| 22:08.32 | Chompers | and by tomorrow, i mean not tomorrow |
| 22:08.41 | Sapiens|Work | don't they usually make a big "2.4 is tomorrow!" post for that? |
| 22:08.49 | ckknight | it had better not be tomorrow |
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| 22:09.05 | nevcairiel | Sapiens|Work: nah they always keep quite |
| 22:10.02 | Sapiens|Work | usually preload lasts for more than a week anyway |
| 22:10.05 | Hjalte | I hope 2.4 is coming soon :) |
| 22:11.28 | Hjalte | Can Empowered Smite be reflected back to Lady something in Illidary Council fight? |
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| 22:12.06 | vithos | NivFreak: here's an example of how BM is easy in practice, but weird in theory. i'm the hunter at #1, i "broke through the haste cap" and started doing two autoshots per steady http://wowwebstats.com/12zgvf1fsvfqe?s=4482-4522 |
| 22:13.15 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 22:13.18 | vithos | #5 is a rogue with two warglaives |
| 22:13.28 | vithos | for comparison |
| 22:13.57 | sag_ich_nicht | lol doomkins |
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| 22:14.32 | vithos | lol, yes |
| 22:14.36 | Orionshock | urg... what pet teaches you claw? |
| 22:14.46 | vithos | Orionshock: which rank? |
| 22:14.48 | dylanm | Orionshock: What rank? |
| 22:14.52 | Orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: 1 |
| 22:14.57 | Orionshock | ... |
| 22:14.59 | Orionshock | rank 1 |
| 22:15.01 | vithos | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=16827 |
| 22:15.06 | dylanm | vithos: Those are damned good numbers. |
| 22:15.14 | Chompers | at last |
| 22:15.15 | mort | petopia.com |
| 22:15.18 | Chompers | damn that's a short fight |
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| 22:16.17 | vithos | yeah, wws considers the rest of the fight to be trash |
| 22:16.21 | vithos | that's just the shade |
| 22:17.43 | vithos | and there is bonus damage |
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| 22:28.27 | kergoth | okY |
| 22:28.29 | kergoth | okay |
| 22:28.37 | kergoth | aloft needs to not gather data for its 'comments' on my own pets |
| 22:28.58 | kergoth | cause thanks to the free for all in sl, i now see 'Blackheart the Inciter's Pet' under my pet's nameplate all the time :P |
| 22:29.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:29.13 | Cryect | hehe! |
| 22:29.25 | Cryect | you sure your pet isn't a traitor? |
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| 22:29.52 | kergoth | George wouldnt do that to me :( |
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| 22:30.31 | james\ | is grid fixed yet ? |
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| 22:37.24 | CIA-9 | CoolDownButtons: |
| 22:37.24 | CIA-9 | - some optimizations |
| 22:37.24 | CIA-9 | - added missing locale |
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| 22:47.02 | NeoTron | vithos: wow those numbers are pretty sad |
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| 22:47.27 | NeoTron | on Akama a rogue with no warglaives in my guild does >2000 DPS and I myself do around 3500 DPS |
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| 22:48.14 | Antiar1 | akama's a worthless benchmark |
| 22:48.18 | Antiar1 | He has a damage amp |
| 22:48.52 | EvilJohn_ | yeah |
| 22:49.01 | EvilJohn_ | he's not that useful |
| 22:49.13 | EvilJohn_ | i wish wws gave you a full parse on that fight |
| 22:49.14 | Antiarc | Teron's the best melee benchmark in BT, barring people getting ghosted |
| 22:49.20 | Antiarc | Because he's a straight DPS fight and has little AC |
| 22:49.29 | EvilJohn_ | knowing how well people perofmr in a mixed CC/Max DPS setting would be a lot more useful |
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| 22:51.22 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64896 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: When you change the network protocol sender, it's a good idea to update the receiver to match. |
| 22:53.04 | NeoTron | Antiarc: that is for sure, just stating that vithos numbers are pretty low (perhaps no heroism? not sure) |
| 22:53.14 | Gnarfoz | !ap 2000 |
| 22:53.51 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 22:54.05 | Antiarc | I've never seen a hunter be close to competitive with rogues/warriors on Akama |
| 22:54.26 | Antiarc | But we also chain heroisms on our melee |
| 22:54.31 | Gnarfoz | I topped akama dps while being pvp specced today :< |
| 22:54.33 | Xinhuan | we chain heroism on melee too |
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| 22:54.53 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: warrior? |
| 22:55.07 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: no, still my rogue ;> |
| 22:55.11 | Antiarc | rofl, nice |
| 22:55.17 | Antiarc | Tell me you weren't shadowstep |
| 22:55.21 | Antiarc | Though, actually |
| 22:55.29 | Gnarfoz | I was. |
| 22:55.33 | Gnarfoz | rather, I am |
| 22:55.39 | Gnarfoz | !c EU Das Syndikat Lolah |
| 22:55.40 | Antiarc | Deadly Deeds is probably crazy OP on Akama, since you hit harder as the fight goes on, and couple that with Dirty Deeds... |
| 22:55.45 | Antiarc | Err, Dirty Deeds |
| 22:55.47 | Antiarc | Not deadly :P |
| 22:55.56 | Gnarfoz | no botz around :< |
| 22:56.02 | Xinhuan | yes that is |
| 22:56.07 | Xinhuan | use !rating 2000 |
| 22:56.14 | Gnarfoz | !rating 2000 |
| 22:56.14 | Xinhuan | 2000 rating gives 1054(5s), 928(3s) and 801(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:56.25 | Gnarfoz | although I rather meant a char bot |
| 22:56.26 | Gnarfoz | :) |
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| 22:57.48 | Antiarc | http://wowwebstats.com/h1wsirzzclt4w?s=6230-6282 was last week's Akama. I'm Adrine. |
| 22:58.19 | Saroz | yes, brag about akama, gogo |
| 22:58.25 | thul | jewtube.com |
| 22:58.26 | thul | http://jewbuntu.org/ |
| 22:58.41 | Antiarc | Heh, not bragging. |
| 22:58.51 | Antiarc | I said like 5 minutes ago that Akama's a worthless benchmark :P |
| 22:59.25 | drasil | I can't wait for Brutallus. He'll be the real DPS benchmark boss. |
| 22:59.28 | Antiarc | Also, WWS's interpretation of Akama is stupid >_< |
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| 23:00.23 | Manch0Away | Can someone tell me what PerformanceFu Bandwith measure? (Kbytes per second) ? |
| 23:00.51 | [SW]Dodge | B/s = Byte per second |
| 23:01.21 | Manch0Away | hmz..does that mean, that whole hour of play, and i have no more than 1mbyte ?? |
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| 23:01.49 | Xinhuan | no |
| 23:02.00 | Manch0Away | or..are there a way i can measure total amount of trafic the game uses for one hour? |
| 23:02.10 | Xinhuan | use an external program |
| 23:02.10 | Antiarc | The game, or your addons? |
| 23:02.13 | Xinhuan | to measure |
| 23:02.15 | Manch0Away | the game |
| 23:02.22 | Antiarc | If you want to measure the game, then you need to use an external addon |
| 23:02.26 | Antiarc | Err |
| 23:02.28 | Antiarc | external program |
| 23:02.29 | Manch0Away | a friend of mine is in Africa :) and there he pays his internet by traffic :( |
| 23:02.37 | Antiarc | Something that just measures raw bandwidth usage |
| 23:02.45 | [SW]Dodge | ~2,23mb if your are at 650B/s (in and out) |
| 23:02.47 | purl | [SW]Dodge: okay |
| 23:02.48 | Manch0Away | arent there any tools ready for that? |
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| 23:02.56 | [SW]Dodge | wtf purl? |
| 23:03.03 | Manch0Away | [SW]Dodge ic, ty :) |
| 23:03.28 | [dRaCo] | you used ~ as start |
| 23:03.36 | [SW]Dodge | ~blub |
| 23:03.46 | [SW]Dodge | mhm |
| 23:04.08 | [dRaCo] | purl: 2,23mb if |
| 23:04.25 | [dRaCo] | uhm |
| 23:04.28 | [dRaCo] | well, something like that |
| 23:04.40 | [SW]Dodge | lol ^^ |
| 23:04.48 | Manch0Away | purl? |
| 23:04.55 | [SW]Dodge | purl = bot |
| 23:04.56 | purl | Do I look like a bot?? |
| 23:04.56 | Xinhuan | ~2,23mb |
| 23:05.02 | Manch0Away | oh, sry :) |
| 23:05.04 | [SW]Dodge | ~pil |
| 23:05.05 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 23:05.18 | [SW]Dodge | purl yes you do |
| 23:05.32 | Xinhuan | purl ~= bot |
| 23:05.39 | Xinhuan | haha no response to that |
| 23:06.54 | Orionshock | ~2,23mb |
| 23:07.13 | Manch0Away | if i have average 850Bit/s? |
| 23:07.20 | Manch0Away | B/s |
| 23:07.25 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: a very interesting question: what are you doing ingame while working on an addon? i sit/stand in Shattrath(aldor rise). a lot of people asking me every day what i'm doing there the whole day, and day for day. do you have the same "problem"? xD |
| 23:07.37 | Guillotine | Dodge: thats easy |
| 23:07.37 | Xinhuan | i sit in IF bank |
| 23:07.38 | Guillotine | AV |
| 23:07.48 | Manch0Away | [SW]Dodge lol :) |
| 23:07.55 | Xinhuan | and its well known on my server i have 517 days /played |
| 23:08.08 | Guillotine | Just 'guard' a graveyard in AV while you program AddOns! Thats what I do! |
| 23:08.25 | [SW]Dodge | Guillotine: thats a nice idea, but i'm to often auto /afk :/ |
| 23:08.43 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: hehe |
| 23:08.51 | Antiarc | I do almost all my addon development on alts |
| 23:09.05 | [SW]Dodge | what about the time you started coding? |
| 23:09.15 | Antiarc | I was low level then |
| 23:09.19 | Antiarc | :P |
| 23:09.22 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 23:09.45 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07Ace3 * r64897 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:09.45 | CIA-9 | AlarLib-3.0: |
| 23:09.45 | CIA-9 | Standardized and added a factory (AlarLib:new() |
| 23:09.58 | Sapiens|Work | i would like to request an addon that lets me go home from work early |
| 23:10.04 | Sapiens|Work | any takers? |
| 23:10.09 | Tuller | I call it, "the flu" |
| 23:10.25 | Sapiens|Work | work calls that "fired for attendance issues" :( |
| 23:10.35 | [SW]Dodge | Sapiens|Work: i have one, in germany it is called "kündigen" :D |
| 23:10.37 | Tuller | I got the ace'd version, which got me out of work for 5 days! |
| 23:11.04 | Xinhuan | i got a rock'ed version, gets me out for 6 days! |
| 23:11.18 | CIA-9 | 03anadale * r64898 10UnderHood/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:11.18 | CIA-9 | UnderHood: |
| 23:11.18 | CIA-9 | - Number of buff-related bugfixes |
| 23:11.18 | CIA-9 | - Some performance optimization |
| 23:11.18 | CIA-9 | - There MAY BE an issue with Threat bar not showing when entering combat - to be investigated |
| 23:11.40 | Tuller | yeah well, your version probably came with diarrhea |
| 23:12.03 | Xinhuan | get me an ace3 version then, that gets me 7 days off per week |
| 23:12.12 | Tuller | which is of course, a load on demand module |
| 23:12.35 | Tuller | it makes you really lightweight! |
| 23:12.54 | NeoTron | Antiarc: almost necessary to do on alts since reloading takes about forever on my mains.. |
| 23:13.09 | NeoTron | I even made a trial account so I can test the data sharing part of MM |
| 23:13.18 | Xinhuan | i do all coding on mains, because my addons tend to be interactive with other addons ;p |
| 23:13.27 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Hehe, yup |
| 23:13.36 | Antiarc | I just enable what I need to on an alt |
| 23:13.38 | Antiarc | And turn the rest off |
| 23:13.52 | Xinhuan | also i do on my main because i'm the best JC/Enchanter on the server ;p |
| 23:13.55 | Xinhuan | so i earn money as i code |
| 23:13.58 | Xinhuan | just clicking buttons |
| 23:14.16 | Xinhuan | it'll be like "i heard you can do mongoose" |
| 23:14.18 | Tuller | wonders how'd you play wow without clicking buttons |
| 23:14.19 | Xinhuan | "yup, IF bank" |
| 23:14.30 | Xinhuan | 2 clicks later, 10g tip ;p |
| 23:14.47 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07qt2 * r64899 10AlarModules/ (AlarLib-3.0/ AlarLib-3.0.0/): Renamed remotely |
| 23:14.50 | Estil | what does Xinhuan mean? |
| 23:14.55 | Xinhuan | only took me 41 kara runs though |
| 23:14.57 | Xinhuan | to get that formula |
| 23:15.07 | Xinhuan | it happens to be my name, i'm chinese :) |
| 23:15.11 | Estil | oh :o |
| 23:15.16 | CIA-9 | 03alar 07qt2 * r64900 10AlarModules/AlarLib-3.0/: AlarLib-3.0: |
| 23:15.18 | Estil | cool |
| 23:15.27 | NeoTron | but what does it mean!!! |
| 23:15.28 | NeoTron | heh |
| 23:15.29 | Tuller | wooh, i'm glad I decided to not call you a gold farmer :P |
| 23:15.31 | Manch0Away | ty all, bye :) |
| 23:15.33 | Xinhuan | it means "new change" |
| 23:15.43 | NeoTron | well there you go, it does have a meaning |
| 23:16.05 | [SW]Dodge | a Xinhuan to my addon :D XD |
| 23:16.12 | Orionshock | i made a EU trial account to fix some locale problems with my addon :D |
| 23:16.27 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64901 10QuestTranslator2/ (QuestTranslator2.toc qt2.lua): |
| 23:16.27 | CIA-9 | QuestTranslator2 |
| 23:16.27 | CIA-9 | Updated to last tagged AlarLib-3.0 revision |
| 23:17.26 | [SW]Dodge | wa fuck lol! deleted my Addon localy :D |
| 23:17.35 | Fin | kergoth: were those Prat messages you pasted last night from the PTR? (the ones about AceLocale) |
| 23:18.27 | NeoTron | Orionshock: interesting idea. heh |
| 23:18.54 | Arrowmaster | you know you can use the eu client on the us realms too |
| 23:19.06 | NeoTron | I've done it |
| 23:19.19 | Fin | do you have to have a US account? |
| 23:19.21 | NeoTron | edit realm list |
| 23:19.23 | NeoTron | yes |
| 23:19.31 | Fin | k |
| 23:19.37 | Fin | does not have a US account |
| 23:19.47 | Arrowmaster | the us and eu clients are exactly the same except for whats in the data folder |
| 23:19.57 | Fin | well, yeh, that makes sense |
| 23:20.06 | Zeksie | ticks me off we can't post to us forums. |
| 23:20.09 | Fin | I don't know why they don't make accounts usable across everywhere, though |
| 23:20.17 | Fin | that really is quite annoying, yes |
| 23:20.18 | kergoth | Fin: nope, it was us, live |
| 23:20.31 | Groktar | i'm playing boss emotes over vent |
| 23:20.32 | Fin | especially when someone's asking about your addon and you can't respond |
| 23:20.39 | Fin | kergoth: k, I'll have a look and see if I can figure it out |
| 23:20.41 | Groktar | i am so saving this for next time we raid |
| 23:21.35 | Orionshock | i got an email today about my addon... SickOfClickingDailies... apparently their consern would be addressed if they updated :D |
| 23:21.46 | Zeksie | yeah Fin. can't even have a go at them for being idiots.. |
| 23:23.44 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64902 10QuestTranslator2/libs/: |
| 23:23.44 | CIA-9 | QuestTranslator2 |
| 23:23.44 | CIA-9 | Directories reorganization |
| 23:24.33 | Xinhuan | wtf, he writes quest addons now? |
| 23:24.55 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 23:25.00 | [SW]Dodge | it seems that no one rly like alar O.o |
| 23:25.08 | [SW]Dodge | or his addons...^^ |
| 23:25.41 | kenlyric | quest translations |
| 23:25.45 | Stanzilla | dunno about him |
| 23:25.46 | kenlyric | does he translate quest text? |
| 23:25.49 | Stanzilla | but his code is craptopia |
| 23:26.05 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
| 23:26.27 | [SW]Dodge | go and check out CoolDownButtons Code and tell me if it is "ok" or not :) |
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| 23:35.45 | CIA-9 | 03alar * r64903 10QuestTranslator2/qt2.lua: |
| 23:35.45 | CIA-9 | QuestTranslator2 |
| 23:35.45 | CIA-9 | Added minimal output function for debug purposes |
| 23:36.03 | NeoTron | he certainly knows how to make useless descriptions |
| 23:36.16 | NeoTron | the notes for QT2 are: by krtclan (Multiplayer.it), Alar of Daggerspine |
| 23:36.21 | Kemayo | But he's upgrading to ace3! :D |
| 23:36.23 | NeoTron | really helps! |
| 23:36.36 | Kemayo | (I'm crying inside!) :D |
| 23:36.48 | Arrowmaster | can we vote him off the svn? |
| 23:38.00 | Kaelten | http://news.curse.com/details/7825/ |
| 23:38.17 | Kaelten | vote who off the island again? |
| 23:38.21 | NeoTron | so I'm looking at the code and I have no clue wtf it's for |
| 23:38.35 | Arrowmaster | alar |
| 23:38.53 | Megalon | one addon to rule'em all! |
| 23:39.16 | Kaelten | what did he do? |
| 23:39.48 | Arrowmaster | cant code worth crap |
| 23:39.54 | NeoTron | he does something with addon metadata X-QuestTranslatorData |
| 23:40.14 | NeoTron | from all addons |
| 23:40.41 | Kaelten | heh |
| 23:41.07 | NeoTron | seems "special" |
| 23:41.08 | ckknight | I don't think that's a reason to vote someone off |
| 23:41.22 | ckknight | you vote someone off due to legal issues |
| 23:41.32 | ckknight | such as if they rip off somebody's addons more than once |
| 23:41.34 | ckknight | coughs |
| 23:42.34 | Kemayo | Looks like QuestTranslator is doing some sort of hashing of all quest text. Possibly. |
| 23:43.05 | Kemayo | I cunningly restrict my ripping off to addons that are under a suitable open source license. |
| 23:43.14 | ckknight | yea6 |
| 23:43.16 | ckknight | yea* |
| 23:43.26 | ckknight | see, I just steal feature lists and reimplement them |
| 23:43.41 | NeoTron | I think I'll just have to give up and not try to figure wtf it does :) |
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| 23:45.10 | NeoTron | or... it's some sort of bizarre way to localize quest text to italian |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-9 | 03keiss 07PoC * r64904 10Tracksw/ (Tracksw.toc core.lua debug.lua locale/enUS.lua options.lua): |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-9 | Tracksw: |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.40 | Cryect | just give up NeoTron and port MagicMarkers to AlarCore-3.0 |
| 23:45.41 | chiper | Kaelten: wow, sucks to be anyone on cogent |
| 23:46.12 | Arrowmaster | or anyone routed through cogent |
| 23:49.29 | NeoTron | Cryect: I feel like I have to now |
| 23:49.43 | Kaelten | ya its pretty special |
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| 23:49.53 | Xinhuan | so what the heck does QuestTranslator do? |
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| 23:49.58 | Antiarc | What happened to cogent? |
| 23:50.03 | Kaelten | http://news.curse.com/details/7825/ |
| 23:50.06 | NeoTron | I think it translates quest text to italian |
| 23:50.07 | Kaelten | Antiarc: ^ |
| 23:50.14 | Antiarc | O_O |
| 23:50.14 | NeoTron | using data stored in .toc files |
| 23:50.19 | NeoTron | or something bizarre like that |
| 23:50.22 | Xinhuan | seriously? |
| 23:50.36 | Xinhuan | ok that shows that alar is italian ;p |
| 23:51.34 | chiper | that's a lot of text to translate |
| 23:52.11 | Xinhuan | but the data is in the TOC? |
| 23:52.21 | Xinhuan | does storing the data in the TOC make it use less memory??? |
| 23:52.32 | NeoTron | I have no clue |
| 23:52.43 | NeoTron | I jsut see it trying to load data from custom toc fields |
| 23:53.11 | NeoTron | I don't actually see an addon with data in the .toc field |
| 23:53.36 | Xinhuan | if i stored the whole of babblezone in the TOC and just created a function to retrieve the correct zone name |
| 23:53.42 | NeoTron | man he actually adds libstub/callback handler to the directory too (not using externals) |
| 23:53.44 | Xinhuan | from metadata in the TOC |
| 23:53.50 | Xinhuan | does that make the addon use "very little ram" |
| 23:54.03 | Xinhuan | because all the toc stuff isn't attributed to addon memory? |
| 23:54.05 | NeoTron | It might not be attributed to the addon >:-) |
| 23:54.26 | Kalroth | bad Xinhuan, bad! |
| 23:54.56 | Antiarc | NeoTron: That's the correct usage |
| 23:55.06 | Antiarc | LibStub is intended to be packaged, not externaled |
| 23:55.13 | NeoTron | ah ok |
| 23:55.30 | NeoTron | seems rather annoying to have to update it |
| 23:55.40 | NeoTron | is it always, or only if you make a library? |
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| 23:55.41 | Antiarc | The idea is that it shouldn't ever have to be updated |
| 23:55.44 | Xinhuan | libstub hasn't changed for 6 months ;p |
| 23:55.47 | Antiarc | Look at it, it's super small :P |
| 23:55.50 | Antiarc | And it's only for libraries |
| 23:55.53 | Antiarc | I think. |
| 23:55.57 | Antiarc | Yes. |
| 23:56.02 | Antiarc | Since you opdep the lib |
| 23:56.07 | Antiarc | Which then loads libstub |
| 23:56.11 | NeoTron | well then, QuestTranslator2 is not a library |
| 23:57.06 | CIA-9 | 03feu * r64905 10MagicMarker/Locales/Locale-frFR.lua: |
| 23:57.06 | CIA-9 | MagicMarker: |
| 23:57.06 | CIA-9 | - Updated frFR localization |
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| 23:58.03 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * rb06c07837a 10TourGuide/TourGuide_Alliance/33_35_Desolace.lua: Ally Desolace tweak |
| 23:58.13 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * r166107bbe9 10TourGuide/TourGuide_Alliance/ (8 files): Removing ally Thousand Needle guide |
| 23:59.29 | NeoTron | I am correct! It's based on an addon QuestTranslator that is an Italian Quest Translator |
| 23:59.43 | NeoTron | which uses a lua file for the quest data |
