IRC log for #wowace on 20080311

00:00.37NightHawkAtWorkNivFreak: the best I can do i say i dont -think- they were wearing much/any resist gear. But honestly, I don't know/recall. I just heal, really. :P
00:00.55NivFreakNightHawkAtWork: hah, no /guild ? :)
00:01.07NightHawkAtWorknot at the moment.
00:01.09NightHawkAtWorksee my nick
00:01.14NivFreakI'm at work too
00:01.17NivFreak:)
00:01.29NightHawkAtWorkI can certainly ask when I get home, though. :P
00:01.36NivFreakthanks :)
00:03.32Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/download/file.php?id=43&t=1
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00:03.51NivFreakholy small
00:04.33sag_ich_nichtckknight: will that autorounding change in LDT-3.0?
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00:09.05NeoTronGroktar: is that supposed to be readable?
00:11.33Groktaroops
00:11.41zaplhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/download/file.php?id=43
00:11.54Groktar^
00:13.31zaplhackin ur urlz
00:14.28Groktarya, i did copy image location instead of link location
00:15.24KemayoNeoTron: When I logged in MagicMarker said "WARN: Unable to determine the class for MyCharName"
00:15.44NeoTronso my followup question: is that supposed to be funny? :P
00:18.15Groktarit's funny to me
00:18.21Groktarbut then i was the one he was trying to insult
00:23.37NeoTronbut click casting when healing is clearly superior to using the keyboard so I fail to see the funny
00:23.53NeoTronexcept perhaps for a set lifebloom rotations where a nice macro could do the trick
00:24.04Groktari'm pretty sure he doesn't use clique or anything like that
00:26.05AntiarcAugh.
00:26.14AntiarcI got the idea to write a little Blade Flurry stats thing
00:26.22AntiarcAnd it's pain incarnate with the 2.3 combatlog.
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00:29.28NeoTronjust wait? :P
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00:33.50Daemona|ZzZdetails Antiarc details !
00:34.10kergothyea should just wait
00:34.25AntiarcI really should just wait, but I want it :P
00:34.55AntiarcIt tracks the effectiveness of blade flurry, right now, and I'm going to extend it into something that tracks the finishers you use, and monitors SnD uptime
00:34.55ckknightsag_ich_nicht: autorounding?
00:35.19AntiarcBut it spits out the damage done by blade flurry, the % contact you have with the secondary hits, and the DPS that blade flurry did for its duration
00:36.15Daemona|ZzZsounds fun
00:36.19NeoTronKemayo: that is odd
00:36.28Daemona|ZzZthe problem is, you know bladeflurry attacks are mitigated by armor? ;)
00:36.32AntiarcYeah
00:36.33NeoTronKemayo: were you in a raid at the time?
00:36.39NeoTronor just by lonesome?
00:36.41AntiarcBut I'm just watching the combat log for final numbers.
00:36.59KemayoNeoTron: Nope, I was just logging in at an inn.
00:37.00AntiarcBlade Flurry: 5527 damage (363 DPS, 100% contact)
00:37.13NeoTronI suspect it happened before it was able to get the information or so
00:37.45SnagoSounds great Antiarc :D
00:37.45Daemona|ZzZdid i mention i hate blizzard for nerfing the haste buffing? no more 3 times necro buff in hyjal
00:38.01NeoTrongood?
00:38.02Antiarchow'd they nerf it? We only ever did 2 at a time
00:38.32NeoTronwe never (ab)used it for boss DPS
00:38.38NeoTronjust the occasional mid-trash buffing
00:39.06Daemona|ZzZNon-self % based haste spells will no longer stack with each other.
00:39.29Chompers:o
00:39.34AntiarcIs that in 2.4?
00:39.39Daemona|ZzZyup
00:39.39NeoTronDaemona|ZzZ: but that's like the new PI + heroism
00:39.46NeoTronsure that affects things like the mind control buff?
00:40.34Daemona|ZzZas its not a self buff i would assume it wouldnt stack with each other anymore
00:41.21Daemona|ZzZhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31626
00:42.01Daemona|ZzZits a) a non-self buff and b) percent based
00:42.17Daemona|ZzZergo -> no more stacking, either with itself or bloodlust
00:49.00sag_ich_nichtwait
00:49.00sag_ich_nichtnvm
00:49.03sag_ich_nichtckknight nvm
00:49.06sag_ich_nicht~emulate sag_ich_nicht
00:49.07purlbecause i am retarded
00:49.10NeoTronwell it was a bit OP
00:49.28NeoTronanyhow time to go, pwoer going out here soon
00:49.30JoshBorkeit does 5000 damage
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00:54.53ckknightsag_ich_nicht: I'm confused
00:56.16p3limnn
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01:20.00Arrowmasterbah wtf why is '/bigwigs extras flashnshake flash on' toggling instead of just making it on
01:21.25Funkeh`does that for everything
01:22.03Arrowmasteri thought you used to be able to append 'on' and it would set it to on instead of toggling
01:25.14Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_031008_182342.jpg
01:28.24Funkeh`yes? :)
01:28.32AntiarcJust showin' it off :P
01:28.36AntiarcDaemona was asking earlier
01:28.56Funkeh`k
01:29.26kergothnice
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01:38.48CIA-903barfolomeu * r64180 10/branches/FlightHUD/ (COPYING FlightHUD.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Collaborate with myself.
01:39.32Primernothing like collaborating with myself
01:40.46ChompersAntiarc: how hard would it be to add a 'white list' to Omen for 2.4?
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01:43.19CIA-9TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * re2024109ed 10TourGuide/TourGuide_Alliance/29_30_Ashenvale.lua: Ally Ashenvale tweaks
01:46.11Daemona|ZzZi take a copy, now just add some tiny attack power flavour ;)
01:46.27Daemona|ZzZ(ap/crit/mh oh speed)
01:48.42zapl~seen Seerah
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01:59.19chipergrr, wish blizzard would fix the broken windy clouds in nagrand
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02:07.36sacarascchiper: they're broken? (i'm only just making my mote extractor now, so haven;t a clue about them)
02:07.53chiperthere's several that are floating too high off the ground to extract
02:08.13sacaraschmm, annoying
02:08.25Hracki wish blizzard would fix the fishing nodes
02:08.27chiperthere's still plenty that are usable, but it's very frustrating when after half an hour you finally spot a dot on your map, and you cant reach it
02:08.28Hrackeverywhere.
02:08.45Hracksome fishing nodes in nagrand, a gnome can't fish from.
02:09.11Hracksome fishing nodes in zangarmarsh, are in shallow water (i counted about 4 of these nodes last time i reported them to blizzard during the 2.2 ptr patch)
02:09.15Gngskckknight, ping
02:09.52Hrackonce 2.2 went thru and 2.3 went thru with no fishing nodes fixed, i've decided blizzard doesn't give a flying crap about bug reports.
02:09.55sacarascHrack: yeah, i've got annoyed at onces in too shallow water
02:10.19ausmaraI like the one in STV for the fishing contest.
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02:10.24ausmaraWhere half of it is missing.
02:10.30ausmaraDue to like a new 'tile' of water.
02:10.31Hrackthe one inside a rock?
02:11.03Hrackoh.. hrm, not sure i seen that one.. i'm usually out to lunch on sundays
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02:12.06Hrackyou'd think blizzard could do a statistics check on nodes, and see that no one has been able to use said node (fishing, herb, mining, whatever) in the last patch, that it should raise a 4RED flag
02:16.02CIA-903kemayo 07Ace3 * r64181 10HandyNotes_Directions/Directions.lua: HandyNotes_Directions: Fix typo in WORLD_MAP_UPDATE.
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02:18.51CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64182 10LibSimpleFrame-1.0/LibSimpleFrame-1.0.lua:
02:18.51CIA-9LibSimpleFrame-1.0: New simpleframe methods Associate and Forget. Allow you to
02:18.51CIA-9associate another frame with the simpleframe, causing them to move together, and
02:18.51CIA-9causing the simpleframe's locked status to apply to them as well.
02:19.03FireAllianceNXis there anyway to get the ABF font back in SharedMedia?
02:19.29CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64183 10BetterQuestTracker/ (config.lua core.lua): BetterQuestTracker: Headers! (I think this is just about ready for trunk now.)
02:21.20ArrowmasterFireAllianceNX: i thought it got added to SharedMedia when it was removed from pitbull?
02:21.36FireAllianceNXI don't see it anywhere
02:21.55Arrowmasterpoke Ellipsis
02:22.10Arrowmastersince that font was in pitbull right?
02:22.39FireAllianceNXyes
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02:23.06FireAllianceNXI thought it was moved too hm
02:23.31Arrowmaster~poke Ellipsis
02:23.31purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Ellipsis, pokes Ellipsis repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
02:24.21FireAllianceNXas much as I am loving the Star Trek font, it's taking up a lot of space lol
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02:31.46GngskSnago, IHML needs a fubar plugin with an icon!
02:32.04Gngsklike, icon of current macro
02:34.52CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64184 10BetterQuestTracker/core.lua:
02:34.52CIA-9BetterQuestTracker:
02:34.52CIA-9-Change default header spacing.
02:34.52CIA-9-Make alt-clicking on the expand/collapse button in the header work while things are locked work.
02:39.55RaydenUfury warrior lvl 37 with 2h axe
02:39.59RaydenUshould i use slam over heroic strike?
02:40.11RaydenUit seems like maybe more dps because it's faster
02:40.12RaydenUbut less dmg
02:40.16RaydenUfor the same rage
02:42.14selckinheroic strike = no rage generated from hit
02:42.27CIA-903starinnia * r64185 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: StatBlocks_Ammo: remove tooltip parsing for thrown weapon count, use GetInventoryItemDurability() instead
02:44.12Arrowmasterlol
02:44.28Arrowmastersounds like somebody just copied AmmoFu to make that
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02:47.56Yssarilneed an opinion about buff debuff placement http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9232/auraui6.jpg <-- rough idea dont ahve boarders in yet
02:49.24selckinlooks like an animal
02:50.59Yssarilselckin: what kindof animal :)
02:54.17Chaudpeacock
02:55.28Yssarilhehe :)
02:56.05Yssarilckknight: u got any plans for the the word peacock as an addon or may i take it?
02:59.59Chaudborders going to fix the awful roughness on the icons?
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03:03.57Diaoholy shit
03:03.59Diaothis rogue is amazing
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03:09.05Gngskdiao, which rogue?
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03:14.46Arrowmasterillidan is a bitch
03:15.10Arrowmasterand our palidans cant fucking heal without a shadowpriest......
03:17.55YssarilChaud>borders going to fix the awful roughness on the icons? <--- yes :)
03:18.32sag_ich_nicht[04:15] <Arrowmaster> and our palidans cant fucking heal without a shadowpriest...... <--how much holy crit?
03:18.52Arrowmasternot enough it seems
03:19.19Arrowmastersince our resto shamans can spam heal without a spriest but our palidans cant without a spriest
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03:22.55xyuholy priests get stuck in my shadowpriest / mage group
03:22.58xyuand i le sigh.
03:23.01xyui would much rather have a shaman :P
03:24.14DiaoGngsk: a rogue in av
03:24.22Diaohe popped clos against on my priest
03:24.27Diaoi waited for it to run out (5 sec)
03:24.33Diaothen i SW:P him 3 times
03:24.34Diaoall resisted
03:24.38Diaofollowed by resisted SW:D
03:24.42Diaoresisted psychic scream
03:24.44Diaoresisted 2 wands
03:24.52Diaopro rogue imo
03:25.20ThorgardDiao, SR gear!
03:25.28Diaouh
03:25.31Diaofrost wand
03:25.31Diao:(
03:25.36ThorgardUh..
03:25.43ThorgardFR _and_ SR gear..
03:25.49Diaolol
03:25.53Gngskdiao, lucky heh
03:25.54ThorgardClearly you were outplayed, sir.
03:25.57Diaoclearly.
03:26.01Diaoluckily the bunker i was guarding
03:26.03Diaothat he was trying to cap
03:26.08Diaoonly had 8 sec left when he started trying to recap
03:26.20Diaoand it burned before he recapped
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03:32.35NeoTronour helaers get a SP in like one or two fights :P
03:34.11NeoTrondoes anyone have SS of statblocks in action (like a bunch of them)
03:34.48ChaudIf I were to go and buy a video card from circuit city, test it to see if the performance is enough, and return it a week later, would it fall under this....
03:34.50ChaudDigital cameras, camcorders, desktop PCs, notebook PCs, monitors, printers, scanners, projectors, PDAs, mobile video, GPS and radar detectors must be returned within 14 days of the sale date, and (except where prohibited by law) are subject to a 15% restocking fee if returned opened or in a non-factory sealed box.
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03:35.44FireAllianceNXhmmm doesn't look like it
03:36.54ChaudGuess that is what I'll do, as much as I hate to do it, I don't feel like RMAing and eating fees if I don't like the cheap one I order
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03:38.01Diaono chaud
03:38.11Diaopc parts are not considered part of the restock fee
03:38.14Diaoat least not from my experience
03:38.34Diaoi've been able to return routers, pc parts, etc with no charge
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03:42.31CIA-903kagaro 07Ace3 * r64186 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: added 2 helper functions
03:43.38Chaudallrighty, I have spring break and want to test a card, if it is good Ill just order it online from somewhere cheaper than the store =)
03:44.00ulicyea, circuit city can'
03:44.04ulict be the best price
03:46.22chiperwhere is the stable master in netherspire?
03:46.28chipererm, netherstorm
03:47.44chiperah, found him
03:48.16NeoTronhttp://jira.wowace.com/secure/attachment/10259/WoWScrnShot_031008_204451.jpg nice - the previous dropdowns remain open, sitting under the main window (yes I opened a ticket)
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03:56.08Ripdogive been trying to stop my baggins equipment section showing any items in a closetgnome set, is there any way to do this?
03:56.28Ripdogive tried looking for a string in the tooltip, dosent appear to do anything
03:57.08ulicI'm pretty sure there is a baggins_cg or something, a module specifically for CG & Baggins
03:57.19Ripdogooh, thanks, ill have a look for that
03:59.56CIA-903kagaro 07Ace3 * r64187 10kgPanelsConfig/ (3 files in 2 dirs): kgPanelsConfig: eepanels2 import works
04:00.09kergoththere is a cg baggins indeed
04:00.19Ripdogyeah, i just installed it
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04:01.48Ripdogok, thats stupid, i made a NOT: ClosetGnome Set:Any rule, and nothing happened
04:02.08FireAllianceNXAny word on getting ABF back in Pitbull or in SharedMedia?
04:15.26sdoublewhen did you no longer be able to join AV as a group?
04:15.36uliclong time
04:16.02ulicat least several months I'm pretty sure
04:16.22sdoublethat's terrible.
04:16.33ulicI thought I heard they might be adding it back though
04:17.37sdoubleI haven't done AV for a long time, I tried to do it today with my brother and we can't join together.
04:18.04Groktarjust queue at the same time
04:18.08ulicyea, only way around it, is to NOT do first avail, and join the same server, but who knows how long you might have to wait.
04:18.17ulicor yea that trick works pretty well too
04:18.44Diaomore like
04:18.45Diaoseveral years
04:18.52Diaoit was removed back in aug 06
04:18.55Diaolol
04:18.59Groktarit works great if like 10 people want to do it at once
04:19.00ulicreally been that long?
04:19.03Groktarall queue at once
04:19.11Groktar8 people will get into the same game
04:19.17Groktar2 will get into some other one
04:19.23Groktarthey just queue for the game the other 8 got into
04:19.26Groktarit'll be a new game
04:19.30Groktarand they'll get in quickly
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04:26.31sdoubleit doesn't seem like it's been that long.  =/
04:52.37chiperhahaha.  guild is doing a world dragon.  just heard over vent: "he's like, farting on us and we're going to sleep."
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04:58.01break19roofl
04:58.12break19roofl over my head.
05:02.02Gngskguessyou had to be there
05:07.15kebinusancan you get wow to save screenshots as pngs on windows
05:07.19kebinusanor is that a mac only thing
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05:15.58Keiastheres a script command for it kebinusan, but I forgot it :(
05:17.46shadowzero314i think it's ScreenshotFormat
05:26.13sdoublechiper, what dragon?
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05:32.30Arrowmasterits mac only
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06:04.38CIA-903sayclub * r64188 10GridStatusHots/GridStatusHots_locale.lua: GridStatusHots : local convert UTF-8
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06:11.24ThraeHmmmm.
06:12.30CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64189 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0: Handle uncached objectives better. (They hit the first update as " : 0/X".)
06:13.15CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64190 10LibSimpleFrame-1.0/LibSimpleFrame-1.0.lua: LibSimpleFrame-1.0: Check IsMovable on associate frames before starting moving.
06:13.53NeoTronhmm how do you send non-string messages in AceComm-3.0? is there some encoder lib?
06:13.57ThorgardHmm..
06:13.59NeoTronserializer/deserializes
06:14.10ThorgardHas saving layouts with Pitbull ever worked?
06:14.39NeoTronah perhaps aceserializer..
06:14.53ThorgardPitBull-r64011\PitBull.lua:7369: assertion failed!
06:16.26CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64191 10BetterQuestTracker/core.lua:
06:16.26CIA-9BetterQuestTracker:
06:16.26CIA-9-Set up the default trackers better. ("full" -> collapsed by default. "tracked" -> minimal, placed about where Blizzard quest tracker is.)
06:16.26CIA-9-Associate the header expander button directly with the tracker, to benefit from all that lock detection I wrote in LibSimpleFrame.
06:16.27CIA-9-Default header spacing back to 0 -- it looks better with the borders turned on, which is also the default.
06:16.31CIA-9-Always size the tracker; the header is tied to it. (Stops trackers that are collapsed on login from being mysteriously absent.)
06:17.56Kerafyrmif you wanna see something cool.... turn on nasatv.. don't get it? here is a 1200kbps stream.. http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163
06:19.42Kerafyrmif you're wondering what it is.. a night time launch of space shuttle endeavour
06:24.17ThorgardKerafyrm, what is it?
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06:28.17CIA-903nemes * r64192 10NBuffBars/ (NBuffBars.lua NBuffBars.toc RaidMember.lua):
06:28.17CIA-9NBuffBars:
06:28.17CIA-9- really bump TOC->2.3
06:28.17CIA-9- Fix class colours, finally
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06:39.21CIA-9TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * r759198d161 10TourGuide/TourGuide_Alliance/29_30_Ashenvale.lua: Oops, one more thing for Ashenvale
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06:40.39RecluseI've got a question about a particular addon - in Recount (i'm sure someone uses it? :p) there's a tab called "Activity", but i've no idea what it refers to...
06:42.47CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64193 10LibQuixote-2.0/ (7 files in 3 dirs): LibQuixote-2.0: Promote homogeneity.
06:43.30CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64194 10LibSimpleFrame-1.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LibSimpleFrame-1.0: Promote homogeneity.
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06:59.55NeoTronman things are super easy to send using AceComm
06:59.56NeoTronhot
07:00.01ThorgardRecluse, think it's time spent doing something in combat?
07:00.12Reclusehmm
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07:18.10RecluseThorgard: yeah, best i could think of was # of spells/abilities used
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08:06.56CIA-903neotron * r64195 10MagicMarker/ (5 files in 2 dirs): MagicMarker: Added ability to broadcast the mob database (complete or by zone) and raid marks. Whether or not, and how, to receive this data is configurable.
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08:41.34CIA-903nevcairiel * r64196 10cyCircled/ (cyCircled.toc plugins/Bartender4.lua):
08:41.34CIA-9cyCircled:
08:41.34CIA-9- add a half-working BT4 plugin, i can has nice buttons for testing?
08:41.46CIA-903nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r64197 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (Bartender4.lua Bartender4.toc ButtonStyle.lua): Bartender4: add support for cyCircled button skinning
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08:46.02Elkanoanyone has a link to a page where I can equip a char with armor/gems/enchants to look at the resulting stats?
08:46.46nevcairielchardev.org or so?
08:47.24|Pixel|warcrafter.net ?
08:49.03Elkanothx :)
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08:50.58Reclusenot a site, but wowequip ftw lol
08:53.38Zeksieyeah. sometimes wish there'd be a kind of advanced rating buster in game, so you could click a bunch of items into a sort of pseudo char sheet and see the guesstimate.
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09:01.13theoddone33wow
09:01.23theoddone33dailies reset exactly an hour later than normal
09:01.29theoddone33blizzard fails at daylight savings
09:01.31Gngskanyone know if I have to reregister for svn access if I haven't used my account since that crash a year back or so?
09:01.35Grum<Zeksie> yeah. sometimes wish there'd be a kind of advanced rating buster in game, so you could click a bunch of items into a sort of pseudo char sheet and see the guesstimate. <--- there is silly
09:01.38Gngsklol theoddone33, srsly
09:01.39Grumits called WoWEquip
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09:06.09CIA-903nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r64198 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (4 files): Bartender4: tweak style support
09:06.42SnagoGngsk: About the FuBar plugin: I've thought about it, but I don't want to drag in Rock, DewDrop, Tablet etc. I might play around with Arrowmasters LFB-3.0 or LDB-1.0
09:07.44Snagonevcairiel: Love the new keybinding stuff in BT4 :D
09:09.13nevcairieli stole it from bongos3!
09:09.14nevcairiel:)
09:09.38GngskSnago, cool
09:14.24Diaois it the
09:14.31Diaomouseover a button and press a key to keybind thing
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09:18.45SnagoDiao: yes
09:20.43Diaoawesome
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09:31.07OrionshockSpecialEvents-Aura-2.0-59749:527: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot trigger event "SpecialEvents_UnitBuffGained". "run"'s handler, "true", is not a method or function (boolean).
09:31.09Orionshock?
09:31.59Orionshock...hum... methinks that's not entirely useful....
09:32.02Orionshock-.-
09:34.00nevcairielsomething is corrupting the AceEvent registry, and we dont know what :P
09:34.29Xinhuanchuckle
09:34.34Xinhuani'll trace the error
09:34.39Xinhuanif someone has a stack trace
09:34.45nevcairielthere is none
09:34.55Xinhuanbecause its pcalled?
09:34.57nevcairielits directly errors from the blizzard event dispatcher
09:35.02nevcairielinside AceEvent
09:35.56nevcairielit really looks like something changed the AceEvent-2.0 registry
09:37.12Arrowmasterwhy does it say "run"'s
09:37.33nevcairielits the string "run"
09:37.40nevcairielfor some reason thats the objects name
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09:38.18Arrowmasterso its trying to call run:true()?
09:38.35Arrowmasterbut true isnt a string
09:38.38nevcairielwhere true is a boolean
09:38.42Arrowmasterso that example is flawed
09:38.45SnagoSearched your addon folder for files containing '"run"'?
09:38.53nevcairieli did Snago, didnt find a thing :P
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09:39.15Arrowmasternothing contained 'run'?
09:39.18SnagoHmm
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09:40.05nevcairielone "run" in TinyPad, but thats parsing some console handlers, cant be it
09:40.09nevcairieland no 'run'
09:40.18nevcairielmaybe its created with some strsub or something
09:40.19nevcairielwho knows
09:40.33Arrowmasterisnt that error from string.format?
09:40.41Arrowmasterusing %q
09:41.00nevcairielthe error gets formated with string.format, yes
09:41.10Arrowmasterso the quotes arent actually part of it
09:41.16Arrowmasterso just search for run
09:41.32Arrowmasterand hope to ignore any comments
09:41.57SnagoIt must be: Colonel Mustard, with the rope, in the kitchen!
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09:44.34SnagoHow about any .run?
09:45.55ArrowmasterThrae: fix TinyTip.lua, core is still a global
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10:08.24nevcairieldoes anyone know if its possible to change the bindings to the ModifiedClick actions?
10:11.54Arrowmastertry editing the bindings.cache file directly
10:12.15Arrowmastertheyre at the bottem of it
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10:16.22nevcairielthere is SetModifiedClick apparently
10:16.26nevcairielwowwiki is so outdated
10:24.11CIA-903xinhuan * r64200 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-zhTW.lua: GatherMate: Update zhTW locale from NightOwl.
10:25.02CIA-903rabbit * r64201 10GnomeCharmer/ (Bindings.xml GnomeCharmer.lua GnomeCharmer.toc): GnomeCharmer: Add a keybinding to toggle the bar and save the current bar alpha to SVs.
10:25.47nevcairielanother gnome mod?
10:25.54nevcairielwhats it this time vhaarr?
10:26.09vhaarrah, it's just a simple raid target icon thing
10:26.16vhaarrnevcairiel: there's a readme at the top of the lua file
10:26.25vhaarrradial icon menu + icon bar
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10:27.04nevcairieli looked at the .toc, and your notes arent that descriptive :P
10:27.14vhaarrmuhaha!
10:27.46nevcairieli just keybind all the icons and know which order i have the keys to press
10:27.48nevcairiel*shrug :P
10:28.05[Ammo]we have tanks with private symbols and assist
10:29.41nevcairielin raids our tanks generally assign targets themself, too
10:29.50nevcairieli only do it when playing my warrior alt
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10:38.38evlwaht the fuck is GnomeCharmer :P
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10:41.11Zeksieany dewdrop gurus around?
10:41.57vhaarr~asktoask
10:41.57purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
10:42.16Zeksieif you have your minimap icon just touching edge of screen (far right) you can open the menu and it'll hang a little off the edge of screen, but as soon as you click first option anywhere in menu it jumps off to left side of icon..
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10:42.28Zeksiecan u stop that ;)
10:42.47vhaarrthat's weird, it should pop up on the left side right away
10:43.02Zeksieyeah. any further left and it's fine. it's only when it's on far right of minimap
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10:47.27Thorgardevl, raid icon marking helper.
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10:48.27Xinhuan"UICentral v4 Released
10:48.28Xinhuanposted by Rushster on 11/03/2008
10:48.38XinhuanLots of you have asked for it and now it's here. UICentral v4.0! We are currently testing this new version and need your help, especially Mac users as this new version is Mac compatible W00t! To help test v4 please Download the new version.
10:48.46XinhuanNote UIC is now written in java so it's super-quick and easy to use. If you have any problems post your comments on the UIC mod page.
10:48.55Xinhuan"
10:49.06Thorgardkek
10:49.09nevcairielJava and super-quick?
10:49.13ThorgardYeah. ;P
10:49.17Snagolol
10:49.31Xinhuani chuckled
10:49.36ThorgardI keked.
10:50.00SnagoMy mind automaticly read "not written in java so it's super-quick" because that made alot more sense
10:50.54Xinhuanthe latest version of Titan Panel uses LibRock and LibRockTimer hehe
10:51.05clad|officebeen that way for a bit, yeah
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10:52.09SunsHi
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10:53.42mitch0ckk borked my raid-toggle in pitbull :(
10:53.51ckknighthrm?
10:54.07mitch0ah, you're here :)
10:54.38Zeksiedare I ask what UICentral is ;)
10:55.00mitch0I used to be able to call some func in pitbull to show/hide a given group (raid, specifically). now it fails miserably, 'cos there is some other magic going on with the options table
10:55.29Zeksieheh
10:55.35XinhuanZeksie, it a program incgamers uses for their users to mass update their installed addons
10:55.44Ellipsismitch0: you're not the guy who posted that ticket about it, are you
10:56.01mitch0ellipsis: erm, no
10:56.06mitch0at least not recently
10:56.29mitch0I might have posted a ticked asking for a toggle a year ago though
10:56.32Sunsrecently = sometimes in the last 10 minutes ?
10:56.41Zeksieoooooh.. that
10:56.42Suns:)
10:56.45Zeksiejust didn't click on the name
10:57.45mitch0ckk: the problem is that the local "options" or something is initialized from a closure created with the options table or somesuch, so if I call the toggle from "outside" it won't get initialized and I have a big nil reference or worse
10:58.02Ellipsiswe know what the problem is
10:58.07ckknightyea, you're not supposed to call the toggle
10:58.09Ellipsisit's due to the way the options table is cached
10:58.24mitch0will there ever be an easy toggle? :)
10:58.30Ellipsiscall random internal functions of an addon = get random results, don't whine if something that previously works stops working
10:58.43SunsIs there already some forum thread or similar about the Combatlog changes in 2.4 somewhere?
10:58.50mitch0(also, toggling the raid frames sometimes hides the party frames for me, even if done from the gui)
10:58.56Ellipsismitch0: there's already a jira ticket requesting that
10:59.05ckknightmitch0: maybe if I write some kind of console interface, but that's extremely low priority
10:59.29mitch0ckk: isn't there some rockconsole thing?
10:59.42ckknightbut it doesn't take options tables
10:59.45mitch0that could parse the options table automagically?
10:59.47mitch0ah
10:59.48mitch0too bad
10:59.54mitch0convert to ace3 :P
11:00.04ckknightace3 doesn't provide the features I need
11:00.17ckknightalso, converting arbitrarily would be a pain
11:00.20ckknightcost of change and all
11:00.50mitch0ckk: I know. was just kidding
11:01.02mitch0but that toggle would be really nice ;)
11:01.45mitch0I only need the raid frames for buffing, I'd hate to install some other raid frames addon just for that
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11:02.05Orionshocki use grid
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11:02.41Sunsyep, grid is nice
11:03.07Sunstogether with clique.. all a healer needs
11:03.26sag_ich_nichtgrid sucks
11:03.30sag_ich_nicht:)
11:03.38nevcairielgrid is too condensed for my needs
11:03.44sag_ich_nichtagree'd
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11:04.13clad|officei should use my irc bot to calculate heuristically how many times this conversation occurs over teh course of a week
11:04.29Sunswhich one?
11:04.29sag_ich_nichtlol
11:04.40clad|officecause its at least three times a day
11:04.42sag_ich_nicht"i <3 grid" "grid sucks"
11:04.49sag_ich_nichtthat one
11:05.02clad|office"I use grid." "Grid is nice"  "Grid sucks" "Its too compact, I use praid" "Pitbull ftw!"
11:05.08dieckhi there. Do i always have to specify "nil" for empty parameters, or does something like SendChatMessage('test','whisper',,'targetname') work, ommitting the language?
11:05.18nevcairieldieck: nah it needs nil
11:05.20Zeksie*cough* X-Perl
11:05.21sag_ich_nichtyou know what
11:05.27nevcairielsRaidFrames!
11:05.28sag_ich_nichtfuck you guys RDX all the way
11:05.33sag_ich_nichto/
11:05.36Ellipsisscrew raid frames, I watch raw event dumps for my raid health info!
11:05.50sag_ich_nichtEllipsis and that is why we love you
11:05.56Ellipsis/target raid18
11:06.24diecknevcairiel: hm, sad :) ok, then I'll have to turn that macro around to get some more chars
11:06.28Xinhuandieck: the nils are needed
11:06.53Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: unfortunately I don't think I'd get much love if I actually did that...especially if I was a healer :P
11:07.11mitch0what about simpleraidframes? I remeber seeing some commit messages about it a while back. is it any good? :)
11:07.12nevcairielEllipsis: maybe you're really pro like that .. who knows :P
11:07.28EllipsisI used to heal with Blizz raid pullouts
11:07.30Ellipsistrue story
11:07.39nevcairielthey're not that bad
11:07.41clad|officei still do on occasion
11:07.45clad|officethats why clique has always supported it
11:08.01EllipsisI didn't use click-casting...or even mouseover macros
11:08.16sag_ich_nichtdoable
11:08.17EllipsisI would just target the unit and then cast
11:08.19nevcairielmouseover macros are weird
11:08.28nevcairielget real click-casting or use targeting
11:08.32clad|officeindeed
11:08.40Ellipsisoh if I was healing now I certainly would
11:08.41nevcairieli mean, 1.5s GCD
11:08.46nevcairielenough time to switch target
11:08.47nevcairiel:D
11:08.48sag_ich_nichtactually i like click casting for stuns
11:09.02watchoutum.... anyone here who could help me out with babble-2.2 or LibBabble-Spell-3.0?
11:09.06sag_ich_nichtsometimes i don't have the time to click the mobs because the GCD is at like ~0.2 left
11:09.07dieckhm, do you have to use /say something in macros, or will /s something work?
11:09.18nevcairieldieck: /s should work
11:09.19sag_ich_nichtso i hover over it and press HoJ :>
11:09.20FinalX/s should work
11:09.21FinalXhehe
11:09.21nevcairielwatchout: whats up?
11:09.37diecknevcairiel: yah! two more chars ;)
11:10.25sag_ich_nichtyou could also just use an addon
11:10.38watchoutnevcairiel, "moonkin X" translations of the german translation seem to be wrong, I checked it on the svn too
11:11.03sag_ich_nichtso you don't look like one of our warriors when using mass taunt
11:11.11sag_ich_nicht/y CASTING MASS TAUNT!!!
11:11.15sag_ich_nichtreally annoying.
11:11.20sag_ich_nichtalso bbl work
11:11.25Arrowmasterours do that too
11:11.29nevcairielwatchout: so what translations exactly?
11:11.52nevcairielMoonkin Aura, Moonkin Form?
11:12.13watchoutyes
11:12.28watchoutin 3.0 its 880/881
11:12.30nevcairielwhats the correct translations?
11:12.36watchoutlet me type :D
11:12.57watchout["Moonkin Aura"] = "Aura des Mondkin",
11:12.57watchout["Moonkin Form"] = "Mondkingestalt",
11:13.27watchoutcan you fix this? :)
11:14.24watchoutI think they changed it in 2.3 or so, wow translation teams always have something to confuse us...
11:14.51Arrowmasteryou should see how often the chinese translators are changing stuff
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11:15.09nevcairielfixed
11:15.13watchoutyay! :)
11:15.41watchoutdid you fix BS 2.2 too?
11:16.01nevcairielyes
11:16.47watchoutthanks nevcairiel
11:22.08Sunsis anyone using http://www.codeplex.com/WarcraftAddOnStudio and can comment it? Is it a good tool or useless. I am asking this because I am quite comfortable with the VS IDE already.
11:22.41clad|officethen you'll find it useful
11:23.52Arrowmasterjust dont rely on any of the automatic stuff it does
11:25.15SunsIf stuff like Intellisense would work that would be brillant.
11:25.26Arrowmasternah it mostly fails
11:25.38Suns>.<
11:25.58Grumhaha yes use it and make real good code kek
11:26.05Sunskk
11:26.08Suns;)
11:26.14dieckI like Eclipse with http://luaeclipse.luaforge.net/, though it has no warcraft specialties, if works good :)
11:26.57watchoutsay... would you find layout managers like in java useful?
11:26.58Sunsto be honest I hate Eclipse. It's more a personal thing between me and Eclipse.
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11:27.57Sunswatchout: I am not a Java fan, but.. is there something like this?
11:29.02watchoutnot yet, I did it for an addon that I still did not finish... :) I just thought I could fork it out if there is enough response
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11:37.47watchoutI guess it's not that useful :D
11:38.35clad|officeif you like VS, and you want a tool, WarcraftAddonStudio will work just fine for you
11:38.42clad|officeyou can layout your frames graphically
11:38.53clad|officeand don't need to use the code generation if you don't want.
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11:44.48ckknightCIA down?
11:44.52Wobinlooks that way
11:44.59KalrothNSA is next! For freedom!!
11:45.04WobinI'm just waiting to see if my git dcommit worked
11:45.04Sunslol
11:45.47Sunsam, btw, how long does a request for SVN access normally take to get looked at?
11:46.01JoshBorke6 months
11:46.12Sunswow, that's fast
11:47.02Wobinwe pride ourselves on our level of customer service
11:47.04Kalrothdepends on who you cyber for access
11:47.32Kalrothalso I guess it depends on how well they know you and/or your addons
11:48.37JoshBorkeseriousyl though, it takes 3 months, on average
11:48.38vhaarrno
11:48.55vhaarrit only depends on when the people who can grant access have spare time
11:48.57vhaarrnothing else
11:49.31ckknightI wish git had better windows support
11:49.34Sunsyeah, I thought so.
11:49.54Kalrothvhaarr: So I'm cybering ckknight for no reason? :(
11:50.04Ellipsisno reason?
11:50.12Ellipsiscome on, at least he's good at it
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11:50.19Ellipsissurely you're getting some enjoyment out of the whole thing
11:50.24ckknightI put on my robe and wizard hat
11:50.27Kalroth<3
11:50.32Ellipsisrawr~
11:50.33Sunsomg
11:50.35KalrothGOING LIMP
11:52.03Sunsi am wondering how MS manages to have each version of VisualStudios design look like the coolest ever.
11:52.35Wobinckknight: Oh totally
11:52.47WobinIt needs some level of shell intergration like tortoise
11:52.49vhaarrSuns: and what was the first VS version you tried?
11:52.54Suns1.5
11:52.56Wobinit has one sort, but not as useful
11:52.57ckknightWobin: I totally agree
11:53.02Ellipsiseww
11:53.15Ellipsisshell integration is dumb, bad enough that tortoise does it
11:53.16vhaarrSuns: your sense of what is cool and not clearly needs some tuning then
11:53.47Wobinckknight: http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/
11:54.02WobinEllipsis: well I would really prefer some more user friendly tools for git
11:54.10clad|officethen use hg
11:54.14clad|officegit wasnt' made to be user friendly
11:54.17Wobinclad|office: hehe
11:54.19ckknightWobin: apparently msysgit includes "cheetah", which tries to outdo Tortoise
11:54.24Sunsvhaarr: so what's cool then? ;)
11:54.25Wobinckknight: rofl =P
11:54.36clad|officei'm not kidding, if you want a more user friendly distributed scm, hg is certainly an option
11:54.38ckknightWobin: it's what someone on #git said
11:54.38Wobinclad|office: hg worth a look?
11:54.47Wobinclad|office: I'll give it a try
11:54.54ckknightclad|office: hg's handling of branches has come to disgust me
11:55.04clad|office*shrug* it has plenty of benefits
11:55.11clad|officeand some disadvangtages
11:55.13Wobinckknight: what don't you like about it?
11:55.14JoshBorkeit's distributed!
11:55.21WobinJoshBorke: Therefore GOOD! =P
11:55.25Wobins/good/cool/
11:55.29ckknightWobin: at least for what I've seen with working with Kaelten
11:55.42ckknightWobin: hg doesn't like having multiple heads
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11:56.52ckknightWobin: so having multiple heads prevents some commands from running, like hg fetch (which is hg pull && hg merge), cause hg merge would merge all the heads together
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11:57.12ckknightwhereas git handles having branches a lot nicer, imo
11:57.42WobinI'm just hacking at a completely ineffective git repo for the experience
11:58.00Wobin(ie no real reason to use git, just to see what it's like)
11:58.03ckknightokay
11:58.11ckknightI like git's branch handling
11:58.17clad|officeeveryone does :P
11:58.28clad|officepeople love mercurial's patch queues
11:58.35clad|officesince the way patches are submitted in git is actually pretty lame
11:58.45clad|officevia email, or each repo needs to be two-way
11:58.56clad|officestill needs a manual process to manage it
11:59.07clad|officethats the "good" ive heard from hg, for the most part
11:59.43ckknightclad|office: you mean wrt push permissions?
12:00.13Wobinckknight: http://repo.or.cz/w/git-cheetah.git/ <--?
12:00.16clad|officeit just can get sticky
12:00.28ckknightWobin: perhaps, I honestly don't know
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12:00.35ckknightclad|office: but is that what you mean or what?
12:00.51ckknightclad|office: I've grown fond of gitosis for permissions handling
12:01.00clad|officeI mean determining how a project is going to accept patches can be nasty
12:01.31clad|officedetermining whether the lead developer is going to pull from remote repos (requires those commiters to be remotely pull-able)
12:01.42clad|officeor if they're going to let people push back to branches on the lead repo
12:01.46clad|officeor just accept patches via email
12:02.10clad|officegitorious makes things a bit nicer with their cloned repos, but it still takes a whole different approach to the problem
12:02.10ckknightokay
12:02.23ckknighthow does hg do it better?
12:02.42clad|officequilt I thin it's called
12:03.02clad|officehttp://www.selenic.com/mercurial/wiki/index.cgi/MqExtension
12:03.11clad|officehelps manage the patch queue
12:03.17clad|officeas opposed to a manual email process
12:03.31clad|officeI've just started looking into it, but my exams hit this week so Im' focusing on those =/
12:04.04ckknightokay
12:04.33Wobingood luck clad
12:04.51clad|officeWobin: heh, i wish luck were any part of it
12:04.56clad|officethey're grueling take home assignments
12:05.03Wobinhehe ><
12:05.07clad|officeone exam is going to end up over 40 pages of written responses to the assignment
12:05.08Grumyou can always accept patches right?
12:05.31clad|officeGrum: yes
12:05.40clad|officeand git format-patch makes them pretty nice as well
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12:11.53Grum<PROTECTED>
12:12.41ckknightyes, it's distributed, so that means a full clone of the repository
12:12.55Grumi prefer that one as well
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12:15.29Grumeventhough, in theory, how svk solved it should work very well as well
12:16.59Grumbut i find it rather mess in practice
12:17.07Grumand BK handles merging better
12:17.09clad|officesvk became a disaster
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12:17.13clad|officesadly
12:17.24Grumespecially if you have simultaneously edited branches
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12:18.27ihateyoudnsdnsEllipsis get me my damn IP
12:18.31ihateyoudnsdns( sag_ich_nicht )
12:18.45Grumiew you taste foul!
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12:18.53ihateyoudnsdnsnvm
12:19.02ihateyoudnsdnsit's in the hostmask
12:19.07Grumin my experience BK does the job the best and has the nicest tools with it (or the only one with proper tools i think even)
12:19.10ihateyoudnsdnsbecause it didn't set +ix
12:19.14ihateyoudnsdnsbrb
12:19.16clad|officebut is no longer free
12:19.21clad|officehence the alternatives :P
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12:19.35Grumyeah, i've worked with it when it was payware, it rocked
12:19.40Grumbut sucked as much as well
12:19.50Grumthere is nothing that works perfect :D
12:19.52sag_ich_nichtfucking stupid dnydns
12:19.56sag_ich_nicht*dyndns
12:19.59Grumstop using that
12:20.02Grumnub!
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12:20.04Ellipsis4srs
12:20.07Ellipsisdyndns sucks
12:20.12Grum^
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12:33.21Orionshockhttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_031108_053151.jpg
12:34.07Sunswhat's that screen about
12:34.40sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4665488769&sid=1&pageNo=9#172 ugh, blizz fails at coding, hard.
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12:39.52Orionshockhow leet hax server lag is :D
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12:40.20kenlyricthat doesn't really help
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12:41.25Grumi dont get it Orionshock O.o .. amagawd a flying cow?
12:41.29kenlyricyour tauren does seem to have troll hair, but I assume that's the mask?
12:41.42Orionshockya
12:41.43kenlyrichmmm, looks like a falling cow to me
12:41.49kenlyricyou might need a better screenshot
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12:42.03Orionshocksorry don't have fraps to show you the float effect
12:42.31kenlyricI thought usually if you were mounted but the mount doesn't load, your char swims
12:42.36Grumlet me guess its like swimming in the air? O.o
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12:44.42liquiemhmm, why can't i substitute RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class] with PitBull.db.profile.settings.colors.class? http://ace.pastey.net/83623
12:45.51liquiemboth supposed to be table, i have no clue why i can't take pitbull's colorscheme :(
12:46.35Xinhuanbecause
12:46.41Xinhuanchanging it introduces taint
12:46.42vhaarryou're accessing "class" on PitBull.db.profile.colors
12:46.48vhaarrnot |class|
12:46.59vhaarrPitBull.db.profile.colors[class]
12:47.24liquiemah
12:48.16liquiemi thought [] means array (index) :(
12:48.22Xinhuanis umm wowace forums broken
12:49.32watchoutthere are no arrays in lua, thats all tables
12:51.12liquiemthanks :)
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13:23.02vhaarranyone using the new TinyTIp? I can't get it to anchor tooltips to the cursor, either by editing the lua directly or using TinyTipOptions
13:24.10[Ammo]vhaarr: I use it and I have them anchored to cursor at home
13:24.19[Ammo]by editting the standaloneconfigs
13:24.25vhaarryeah that's what I did
13:24.26[Ammo]I don't have tinytipoptions installed
13:24.40vhaarrwell I tried editing first, that didn't work
13:24.43vhaarrso I installed options
13:24.45vhaarrand that doesn't work
13:24.50[Ammo]i have all the stuff as separeate folders with editted configs
13:25.08[Ammo]but I can't check now
13:25.13vhaarrI also get an error when I log in
13:25.13[Ammo]I can send you the configs tonight when I get home
13:25.19vhaarrit's probably that
13:25.43vhaarrThrae: TinyTip.lua:199: attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value)
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13:28.45p3limAnyone here hosting addons on wowi? pm me or something
13:29.00p3limEasy enough, I wanna know how to make a "portal"
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13:30.18[Ammo]ninja paste: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0a505727419ef4d42b518108acd0dcd5.jpg
13:30.27[Ammo]nevcairiel did some good work on the styling for 2.4 :)
13:31.07keissbtw , ca you open the blizzard options menu on a specific addon tab directly ?
13:31.16nevcairielnot sure
13:31.38Stanzillatekkub's StealYourCarbon did it
13:31.49StanzillaI entered the slash command and the right tab was opened
13:31.54keissnice
13:32.11sag_ich_nichtLOL
13:32.15sag_ich_nichtI LOVE YOU KAZZAK
13:32.18sag_ich_nichtKING OF PALADIN EXPLOTIS
13:32.22sag_ich_nicht*EXPLOITS
13:32.30sag_ich_nichtI'M SO GOING TO BLOW UP THE AUCTION HOUSE
13:33.03[Ammo]you can open it on a specific addon
13:33.05FtH|Daemonaif i'd ask you what you figured out, i guess the answer will be sag_ich_nicht
13:33.48Josh_Borkep3lim:  there's a faq on it i'm pretty sure
13:33.49sag_ich_nichtFtH|Daemona: go to new kazzak, get the debuff, hearth to main city, use LoH. lol.
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13:34.17FtH|Daemonahaha
13:34.42sag_ich_nichti'm going to get a lock to summon me to the ironforge AH
13:35.19ramozwhats LoH?
13:35.20sag_ich_nichthttp://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7692/wowscrnshot030908130635lq5.jpg ahahahaha win
13:35.26sag_ich_nichtramoz: lay on hands
13:35.35FinalXLay on Hands?
13:35.36ramozah
13:35.38ramozofc
13:35.48p3limJosh_Borke: ill take a look, thanks
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13:37.36Josh_Borkesag: that's not really that funny, it only hits for abotu 5-8k
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13:38.05sag_ich_nichtJosh_Borke: i will slay millions of bank alts
13:38.22sag_ich_nichtactually HOLD ON
13:38.26sag_ich_nichtmultiple paladins
13:38.32sag_ich_nichtfuck yes doom
13:39.45Osstiado you blow up if you go less that 20% mana?
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13:40.37Nandinialso, can you loot the NPCs you kill? :)
13:40.43sag_ich_nichtkek
13:41.02OsstiaI got a green off of Gamon in Org last night
13:41.30FinalXNandini: normally, no
13:42.07p3limJosh_Borke: Do i automaticly get a portal once ive uploaded an addon?
13:43.16p3limGonna get rid of googlecode, since wowi is more userfriendly for wow addons
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13:48.08Josh_Borkep3lim: "
13:48.08Josh_BorkeAs for the portals, there should be a link on your user menu on theright side column on the Community tab that says "enable portal". Ifyou have any more questions, please let us know."
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13:48.37p3limYou found that in the FAQ?
13:49.40Josh_Borkeno, i found it by searching the forums :-d
13:52.42p3lim:p
13:54.09p3limyou referring to Elloria's topic?
13:54.16p3limcause its the same for me, cant find anything
13:54.43Josh_Borkep3lim: ask in #wowi-lounge
13:54.51p3limhere on freenode?
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13:54.57Josh_Borkeyes
13:54.59p3limcool, thanks
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14:26.07HjalteOn live, the Pitbull aura system is bugging for me at the moment. Anything I can do?
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14:26.29Nandiniturn it off?
14:26.53StanzillaHjalte: what's not working?
14:27.02EllipsisHjalte: bugging how, just party/raid auras failing to update?
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14:28.18HjalteOn my target frame, I have buffs and debuffs together above the frame. However, they bug when there's more than 1 line of debuffs, making me unable to see both new debuffs and new buffs.
14:28.36Ellipsisscreenshot the problem and your target layout settings please
14:29.49HjalteHave you got any ideas to how I can find a mob with lot of debuffs outside of instances? If not, I'll have to wait untill raid tonight :) - The configuration mode works fine.
14:30.15Nandiniduel a lock and target yourself
14:30.29Ellipsis^that, and decrease the buff frame width if needed
14:30.57Ellipsisalternatively, since you are a lock, just dot up dr. boom
14:31.18ramozHjalte: i have the same, but i just have to re-target to get all buffs up
14:31.21HjalteAh, I could try that while decreasing the buff frame width
14:31.39HjalteGoing to dr boom
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14:32.24Ellipsishe's always nice to test on, I usually kill him once or twice when testing PB_Aura debuffs :)
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14:34.25HjalteIt's been bugging ever since the aura update for 2.4 some time ago
14:34.43Ozgulikill dr boom?
14:34.59EllipsisHjalte: er, are you having problems on live or PTR?
14:35.06HjalteEllipsis: On live.
14:35.18Ellipsisthen it has nothing to do with the 2.4 aura code :P
14:35.37HjalteBut there was some updating to the aura system for 2.4, which ckknight then sort of copied to live, wasn't there?
14:37.12HjalteAt least it said in the change log: "note: Users on WoW 2.3 will still be using the old version (for now), so that the new version can be tested and it uses some 2.4 features. At a later point in time, I plan to backport the new system to 2.3." - and a little after that my problems started :)
14:37.42Ellipsiswell, it was a complete overhaul of the module
14:37.49Stanzillajust blame Ellipsis
14:37.51Ellipsisit's just that he did it with the 2.4 filtering file first
14:37.51Stanzilla:P
14:37.57Ellipsisyes, all layout issues are totally my fault
14:38.10Ellipsisunless they existed before the overhaul (in either Aura or AltAura)
14:38.15Ellipsisthen it's my fault I didn't catch/fix them
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14:40.36CIA-903ckknight * r64234 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
14:40.36CIA-9LibDogTag-3.0 - add support for undef arguments, which are different from nil, only difference being if you specify it, it is nil, if you don't, it's undef. They act the same in most cases
14:40.36CIA-9- add support for aliases.
14:40.36CIA-9- fix a bug with the standardize function.
14:40.36CIA-9- when standardizing { "unm", someNumber }, turn it into -someNumber.
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14:41.19HjalteOkay, I've just had 18 shadow bolts in a row on dr boom and no crits. with 30% crit chance.
14:41.29Ellipsislol
14:41.52Ellipsisjust make the frame width smaller, if you're relying on ISB to test it's gonna take you a while to get it up with all dots :P
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14:42.51HjalteI might have to make it even smaller - corr, cos, immo, isb, drain life - have i got more?
14:43.31ramozgo respec
14:43.46ramozshadowembrace sl ua
14:44.46HjalteIt's only gold anyway, yeah?
14:45.11ramozearning gold is like taking a dump
14:45.13ramozminimal effort
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14:45.43sag_ich_nichtsomeone tell me how i can tell if a US phone number is a cell phone number
14:45.59ramozcall it and ask
14:46.42ramozdid it hurt?
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14:47.47HjalteI got a screenshot finally
14:52.11kenlyricsag_ich_nicht: well, most caller ID systems will identify a cell call
14:52.14Hjaltehttp://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_031108_154711.jpg Ellipsis, look at the corruption - You can see the "2", which comes from the ISB which is also up - Look at Demon, there are 4 debuffs up, but the ISB is somehow hidden beneath the Corruption, except for the number.
14:52.18kenlyricotherwise, you have to know the prefixes
14:53.09HjalteEllipsis: Also, when this happens, I often see 2-3 debuffs on the second row of buffs/debuffs out in the sides.
14:55.25SnagoHjalte, Ellipsis: This happens to me too and I also have my debuffs above the target frame. Gonna see if I can find some screen shots.
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15:03.02Nandininevcairiel: are you ready to start taking bug reports for the bt4 that's in branches? or do you want to get it feature-complete first?
15:03.14nevcairielwhats broken?
15:03.27Nandininot broken, just a visual artifact when switching bar styles
15:04.07nevcairielhow to reproduce?
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15:04.47Nandinidisable button grid, switch a bar to default style, then switch it to dreamlayout style
15:05.33Nandinithe semi-transparent background for dreamlayout style gets applied to all buttons, whether they're populated or not
15:05.56nevcairieli cant seem to reproduce that
15:06.08Nandinido you have empty buttons on the bar?
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15:06.21nevcairieloh
15:06.22nevcairielthere
15:07.19Nandinithey're drawn correctly after reloading, just when switching to dreamlayout, empty buttons get that background added to them
15:07.58Nandiniwhich is probably not expected behavior
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15:09.26CIA-903nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r64235 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ButtonStyle.lua: Bartender4: update buttons after setting the style
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15:09.45nevcairielshould solve that
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15:10.52Nandinialso just out of curiousity, can i disable shift+mousewheel paging for bar 1? (is that in keybindings?)
15:11.18nevcairielyeah just unbind the key
15:11.37Nandinifound it, thanks!
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15:13.21Josh_Borkeckknight: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/LS-21
15:13.21Josh_Borkei came up with a solution for you :-D
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15:26.50phyberkeyboard skills r fail.
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15:31.41whizterhow can I dump a string into a file?
15:32.20Josh_Borkein wow?  you can't
15:32.30Josh_Borkeyou can put it in a saved variable and then it is saved by wow
15:33.00SnagoYou can enable chat log and send it to a channel
15:33.36whizterJosh_Borke, how can I do that?
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15:34.16Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3190690629&sid=1&pageNo=1#16 <-FYI Wowdigger aka gamersinc = most secure site evar
15:34.20Fisker-incgamers*
15:34.59Josh_Borkewhizter:  look it up on www.wowwiki.com
15:35.03Josh_Borkewhizter: you cannot save data real time
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15:36.25whizterok
15:36.37genetikFisker-: that's pretty funny
15:36.54Fisker-yeah
15:37.33Fisker-already sent them like 4 mails that not only are they causing a higher rate of compromised accounts, but they are also breaching the terms they are asked to adhere to when signing up for the fansite program
15:37.38genetikshould find the long thread on the wow forums from back when they had all of those problems
15:37.49CIA-903ckknight * r64236 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Compiler.lua Parser.lua test.lua):
15:37.49CIA-9LibDogTag-3.0 - allow kwargs to work with aliases
15:37.49CIA-9- allow prespecified kwargs to work with aliases
15:37.49CIA-9- allow tuples to work with aliases
15:38.36Fisker-saying that people who visited sites like wowhead, thottbot and allakhazam were supporting child molesting was it for me
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15:50.09CIA-9Ace3
15:50.09CIA-9- AceGUI-3.0: adjust editbox to new layout
15:50.30CIA-903saroz * r64239 10sRaidFrames/locales/enUS.lua: sRaidFrames: DO..NOT...FUCK..UP...MY..SHIT
15:50.31Saroz!!!!!!!!!!
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15:51.06Vangualheh
15:51.06Chomperswhat happened Saroz
15:51.24Sarozture != true
15:53.29nevcairielwhy did that guy localize the status keys o.O
15:53.34nevcairielstupid translators
15:53.37Sarozhe did?
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15:53.55nevcairielself:AddStatusMap(L["Debuff_Curse"], 55, {"background"}, L["Cursed"], self.opt.DebuffColors["Curse"])
15:54.03SarozWTF
15:54.03nevcairielwhy L the Debuff_Curse?
15:54.29Sarozfucking moron, reverting
15:54.34Zeksieheh
15:56.08Sarozhow the fuck do you revert in windows
15:57.50Saroztime to play
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16:01.00Sarozwasnt that bad
16:01.09CIA-903saroz * r64240 10sRaidFrames/ (8 files in 2 dirs): sRaidFrames: Thanks for trying to translate stuff, but understand the code before doing so.
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16:02.41CIA-9037destiny * r64241 10Skinner/Localisations.lua:
16:02.41CIA-9Skinner:
16:02.41CIA-9- Update locale koKR
16:03.18CIA-903saroz * r64242 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Reword
16:04.23HjalteEllipsis: Did you get the picture link I sent you earlier?
16:05.42EllipsisHjalte: nope, sorry, bad connection here
16:06.40HjalteEllipsis: http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_031108_154711.jpg - Check DoTimer for what debuffs where up - ISB is somewhat hidden behind Corruption, you can see that by the number of charges.
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16:15.38HjalteUh, Ellipsis, did you get disconnected again? I don't have joins and leaves on.
16:16.43thulhmm
16:18.31CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64244 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua:
16:18.31CIA-9LibQuixote-2.0: Drycode
16:18.31CIA-9-Add the public API for party quests
16:18.31CIA-9-Change the Leaderboard_Update event to Objective_Update, because I like the sound better
16:20.13Fisker-she's probably not here Hjalte
16:23.03Nandinidoes libhealcomm have facilities for notifying my healers that i have talents that increase healing done to me?
16:23.31ckknightyes, I believe
16:24.06Nandiniwas just curious since the druid talent in 2.4 will increase healing done to me while i'm in cat form
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16:24.34Nandinior perhaps their healing addons will inspect me and determine i have that bonus 20%
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16:26.42Nandinii've tried several different talent builds on the ptr and i'm still not comfortable with any of my choices to free up two points to put in nurturing instinct
16:30.47CIA-903ackis * r64246 10AckisRecipeList/ (Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua):
16:30.47CIA-9AckisRecipeList:
16:30.47CIA-9- Engineering update
16:31.25CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64247 10BetterQuestTracker/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BetterQuestTracker: That Leaderboard_Update thing? Yeah. That Quixote_ thing? Yeah.
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16:38.56hasteFisker-: not now D:
16:39.27Fisker-:(
16:39.36Fisker-gotta go raid anyways
16:39.38ChompersFisker-
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16:39.41Chompershai
16:40.04Fisker-hai
16:40.19Chompersraiding huh, gogo BT ?
16:40.39Fisker-nope
16:40.49Fisker-mount hyjal
16:40.52Chompersoh
16:40.54Fisker-and a quick ssc run
16:41.00Fisker-i.e. vashj
16:41.18CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64249 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0: "luac -l" pointed out that tooltip_line was setting a global.
16:41.40Ellipsisboy that luac guy sure is helpful sometimes
16:42.17KemayoHas its uses.
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16:44.46Grummmm lua for macosx
16:44.48Grumwhere to get?
16:44.56Fisker-haha
16:44.59Fisker-we killed komisk
16:45.03Fisker-take that haste
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16:47.54clad|officeGrum: cd /tmp && curl -O http://www.lua.org/ftp/lua-5.1.3.tar.gz && tar -zvxf lua-5.1.3.tar.gz && cd lua-5.1.3 && make macosx && make install
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16:48.14clad|officeGrum: thats one way to do it
16:48.15Grumkek
16:48.22Grumeasy enough
16:48.26Grumi was doing that btw :D
16:48.39clad|office:P
16:49.04clad|officethat'll install it to /usr/local
16:49.04Grumjust found a blog describing it :)
16:49.08Grumhmm
16:49.14Grumyeah i prolyl want to install it locally
16:49.16Fisker-haha haste
16:49.16Fisker-take that
16:49.25Xinhuanwhoa, the page that i tried to open onwowace forums 4 hours ago is still loading
16:49.27hastelol wut?
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16:49.58Fisker-killed a party from your guild :P
16:50.02Grumoh just do: 'make local' :P
16:50.04hasteaaw :(
16:50.53Grumis there any 'wow environment' for lua?
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16:52.50clad|officeGrum: if you want that, you can download the patch to 5.1.2 that cogwheel has put together
16:52.53clad|officeone moment
16:53.00Grumyeah i spotted it
16:53.09Grumoh
16:53.09Grum5.1.1
16:53.17Grummm what does wow use? 5.1.2?
16:53.19clad|officedoesn't matter
16:53.20clad|officehttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=183910&package_id=213793
16:53.23Erica_I just updated COW-75 concerning textures not updating in cowtip properly.  It seems to be a conflict with Skinner
16:53.24clad|officedownload the .patch file
16:53.27clad|officeand apply that to 5.1.3
16:53.31clad|officeit should apply cleanly
16:53.37clad|officei gotta runm
16:53.39clad|officesomeone can help you do that
16:53.41clad|office:p
16:53.42Grumthanks :)
16:53.44Grumoh patching is easy
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16:58.14CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64250 10BetterQuestTracker/ (11 files in 2 dirs): BetterQuestTracker: Rename to BetterQuest, after the weekend's scope creep.
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17:00.10NeoTronKemayo: so BetterQuest becoming more like bEQL then? :P
17:00.37CIA-903kemayo * r64251 10/branches/BetterQuest/: BetterQuest: Directory!
17:01.00CIA-903kemayo * r64252 10/branches/ (BetterQuest/Ace3/ BetterQuestTracker/kemayo/): BetterQuest: And move from previous branch.
17:01.55Ellipsisping Hjalte
17:02.17CIA-903kemayo * r64253 10/branches/BetterQuestTracker/: BetterQuestTracker: Remove directory.
17:02.19NeoTronTo whomever wrote AceSerializer/AceComm - kudos, amazingly easy to usea
17:02.23KemayoNeoTron: I could not say -- I've never used bEQL.
17:02.33NeoTronKemayo: it extends the quest log too
17:02.38NeoTronmaking it double wide etc
17:02.47NeoTronadds some optins to auto-complete quests and such too
17:03.00Ellipsisbeql is like doublewide + nql + some other stuff thrown in
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17:03.18NeoTronessentially it's a rewrite of EQL3 >:-)
17:03.31NeoTron"zomg aced EQL3!!11!1one"
17:03.48NeoTronalthough in this case it was nice, and warranted, because EQL3 was abandonware and stopped working properly
17:03.52Ellipsisit's not a rewrite of anything, more a copy/paste of several things
17:03.58NeoTronwell
17:04.01NeoTroncontinuation
17:04.04NeoTronor something
17:04.05KemayoNeoTron: Ah, okay.  BetterQuest isn't doing that much -- I just renamed it because it's no longer purely doing the tracker stuff.
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17:04.28EllipsisKemayo: omg bloat! you must burn!
17:04.30NeoTronregardless bEQL is a good thing for someone that was addicted to the behavior of EQL3
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17:05.21NeoTronI wonder if I could make a two person tetris... that'd be something
17:05.24EllipsisNeoTron: that depends on your definition of "good tihng"
17:05.46KemayoEllipsis: Just so long as the burning can have the caveat of "with awesome".
17:05.48NeoTronEllipsis: that I prefer a version that works and is updated to one that's broken and out of date? :P
17:05.58EllipsisNeoTron: that depends on your definition of "works"
17:06.07NeoTron"does what I expect it to"? :)
17:06.23EllipsisI found beql to be very buggy, not play well with any other addons, and generally not do the things I wanted
17:06.27NeoTronother than the quest tracker not working with moveframes it seems to work
17:07.01NeoTronbut moveframes started freaking otu anyway, putting random windows partially outside the screen for no good reason
17:07.45Xinhuani have written a 2player "tetris" game ;p
17:07.50Xinhuanit broke in patch 2.0 and i didn't fix it
17:08.03KemayoEllipsis: A worthy successor to EQL, then.
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17:08.34NeoTronEllipsis: don't get me wrong, I know EQL was badly written and that bEQL isn't perfect
17:08.50NeoTronbut I have yet to find a, as kemayo put it, worthy successor that has the features I'm looking for
17:08.59teetowI actually use a weird mix of bEQL and MonkeyQuest
17:09.00NeoTronat least bEQL works with lightheaded
17:09.25KemayoI have recurring bitterness about EQL, just because the majority of bug reports I ever received for QuestsFu were because of it doing weird things while hooking the quest functions.
17:09.27teetowmonkeyquest for the tracker and bEQL for the log, and I think something else to make the log bigger
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17:11.20KemayoNeoTron: What are you missing from the grand old days of EQL?
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17:14.26NeoTronKemayo: things I use: the two-pane layout, the quest levels show, auto-quest-completion, quest completion notification, quest tracker with auto-added quests, auto-removed objectives when complete, autoremove quests when complete
17:15.07NeoTronand specifically a quest tracker that's not any different from the in-game default really except with more quests
17:15.23NeoTronI hate any addon that tries to make some fancy quest log like monkeyquest
17:16.33KemayoHm... I don't have auto-quest-completion...
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17:17.12NeoTronit's handy when doing a new characte completing quests youve done 10 times before and when doing repeatable quest turnins (like scryer/aldor rep quests)
17:17.36NeoTronespecially the latter when you complete the quest 10 times in 1 minute
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17:19.44Jesseanyone here using classtimers?
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17:20.16CIA-9Ace3 - AceGUI:
17:20.16CIA-9- "List" layout was not reporting new width to .width="fill" widgets, causing e.g. groups to not resize. Fixed by forcibly calling OnWidthSet().
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17:21.24kergothauto quest completion really doesnt belong in a tracker/log mod imo, there are like 50 auto turnin/accept/etc quest mods out there
17:21.41CIA-903mikk 07RC1 * r64255 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua:
17:21.41CIA-9Ace3 - AceGUI:
17:21.41CIA-9... aaaand up the minor rev.
17:21.42KemayoThat's my logic for not having the doublewide stuff, also.
17:21.45NeoTronkergoth: I disagree
17:21.53NeoTronI'd rather have one questaddon rather than 50
17:22.04kergothi'd rather my mods actually had some scope
17:22.06NeoTronit's not a "quest log / tracker" addon, it's a "quest addon"
17:23.20NeoTronthe main benefit being integrated configuration rather than a bunch of separate addons you need to know the name of, need to configure separately etc
17:23.21kergothwell, the fact is, there are multuipel ways to handle turnins and stuff.  if you add it to this, then people who want it to also auto accept quests will have to run multiple addons doing the same thing.  so either implement everything, or nothing
17:23.25kergothwhat?
17:23.32kergoth2.4 is going to change all that, and you know it
17:23.39kergothso try an argument thatll be valid in a month
17:23.44NeoTronhardly
17:23.57NeoTronI use niagara today which is a rather "unified" ace2-addon config gui
17:24.02NeoTronseparate addons are still separate
17:24.36kergothand you dont need to know the addons name or slash command or anything to click on it in niagara.  if you can't be bothered to click an extra time, your laziness is beyond even mine, and thats saying something
17:24.47kergothif its under the quest category, i think you'll manage to find it
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17:26.24Hjaltepong Ellipsis, did you get any of what i wrote you? :)
17:26.56EllipsisHjalte: yeah, could you possibly list or screenshot your target aura layout settings?
17:27.05HjalteEllipsis: sure
17:27.13Ellipsisawesome, thanks :)
17:28.37kergothhm, is there a good thread on the forums where people exchange shots of their uis? i'd be curious to see the different ways people arrange things
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17:29.23syerenElitist Jerks has a massive UI thread.
17:29.36KemayoNeoTron: Well, for what it's worth, BetterQuest currently has all that you mentioned apart from the doublewide and the autocomplete.
17:29.42Xinhuanyou mean like the 200+ page thread on wowace forums?
17:29.59Xinhuanor the "post your UIs here" threads that fills up to full every 2 days on the official UI forums?
17:30.30NeoTronkergoth: the functionality is logically connected so I don't see why it has to be split into a whole bunch of addons
17:30.51syerenhttp://elitistjerks.com/f32/t16276-post_your_interface/p123/
17:31.02kergothsyeren: thanks
17:31.50HjalteEllipsis: You want all options or only the "main" aura options for the target frame?
17:31.51NeoTronparallell: why would you have waypoints and boss loot information in the same addon as the one that shows unexplored areas? three extremely different concepts no? (and yes I know it's using a "plugin" method with sub-addons)
17:32.12EllipsisHjalte: just what's under target -> aura -> layout
17:32.14NeoTronI think a pluggable quest addon would make sense
17:32.26NeoTronwould also unify the configuration
17:33.33Hjaltehttp://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_031108_183133.jpg and http://www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_031108_183204.jpg
17:33.41HjalteEllipsis ^
17:33.50Hjaltebrb
17:33.53Ellipsisgreat, that should be all I need
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17:35.21sag_ich_nichtugh
17:35.27sag_ich_nichtsome addon is breaking my raidframe again
17:35.29sag_ich_nichtuggggh
17:35.54Ellipsiswasn't me
17:36.15NeoTronGnomes - Creepy - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article902014.ece
17:36.41sag_ich_nichtugh
17:36.45sag_ich_nichtTekkub i'll fucking kill you
17:37.54Kalrothawww
17:38.05Kalrothno killing of Tekky!
17:38.35Kalrothgank another Te* dude then, like Tem!
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17:39.42sag_ich_nichtugh, still broken
17:39.46sag_ich_nichtmeh
17:39.55sag_ich_nichtprobably tourguide being in frong of what ever was really breaking my shit
17:40.17Fisker-HOLY MOTHER OF GODS
17:41.34Fisker-we had so many sporebats they couldn't do damage
17:41.35Fisker-http://i26.tinypic.com/f9pgsh.jpg
17:42.12keisslol ... 'Aggro!'
17:42.18Fisker-no shit :D
17:43.47NeoTronI liked the times we killed Vashj and the bats bugged out
17:44.01NeoTronessentially they all fired at the same time and then didn't fire for an extended period of time
17:44.04NeoTronmade it really easy
17:44.08Fisker-hehe yeah
17:44.22Groktaromg sporebat army
17:44.31NeoTronbut every time they did fire, it became a lag fest
17:44.48Fisker-yeah
17:44.50Fisker-6fps here
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17:46.12Groktarhow did you get so many?
17:46.21Groktarwere you guys running down the stairs?
17:46.25sag_ich_nichtokay what can cause the raidtab to fail/look fucked up with graphics like the borders missing
17:46.31Gngsk6fps, 101.7MiB
17:46.39Gngskthat's an all around A+ screenshot
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17:46.44Ellipsissag_ich_nicht: most commonly that's caused by touching yourself at night
17:47.09Gngskyah, stick to doing that just after you wake up and you'll be golden
17:47.19Ellipsis...not literally, I hope
17:48.14Fisker-lol Gngsk
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17:48.25CIA-9aX_RaidStatus:
17:48.26CIA-9- Fix: deDE translations
17:48.26Fisker-We got so many because our dps sucked
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17:49.40mytoswhats up folks
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17:50.05Gngskmorning mytos
17:50.18mytosive run into a recent problem and i was wondering if anyone else had aswell
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17:50.56cncfanaticsmytos: what problem ?
17:51.01mytosim running the most recent version of grid, and its causing my wow to completely error out
17:51.16mytosusually on a load screen, but sometimes even when just sitting
17:51.23cncfanaticsaddons can't (usualy) cause your wow to error out
17:51.28cncfanaticswhats the error ?
17:51.55mytosi also noticed that it says outdated in the addon list, and i know it shouldnt be, i just downloaded it yesterday
17:51.56CIA-903anxarces * r64258 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_UI.lua ProfessionsBook.toc README.txt):
17:51.56CIA-9ProfessionsBook:
17:51.56CIA-9-Fixed an issue with empty enties in the trade item header drop down box.
17:51.56revvFisker- : What mod is puting up the abreviation of the buff name in that SS?  EBB?
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17:53.08mytosit gives me a memory error, its usually pretty random on which block, at first i thought it was hardware, so i ran memtest and a few harddrive checkers, then i realised it was only doing it for the only toon i have that i run grid on
17:53.18HjalteFisker-: Guilds with Danes only fail :P
17:53.35cncfanaticsmytos: thats most likely a blizz bug, an addon shouldn't even be able to cause mem errors
17:54.02mytosany idea why it would only do it when ive got grid enabled?
17:54.23cncfanaticsis it a memory access error or an oom error ?
17:54.31mytosmemory access
17:55.18cncfanaticsan addon *shouldn't* be able to cause that
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17:56.23Ellipsismytos: does it happen if grid is the only addon?
17:56.30mytosyeah
17:56.36Ellipsiscool
17:56.51Ellipsisclearing your grid SVs should probably fix it, but of course you'll have to reconfigure
17:57.12mytosalright ill try that
17:57.36Ellipsisrevv: I believe the buff name abbreviation is from buffalo2
17:57.44mytosalso, has anyone decided to take over dock since the creator dropped it?
17:58.21cncfanaticsdid dock get dropped *already* ?
17:58.25cncfanaticsit was like in Beta
17:58.40CIA-903kemayo 07Ace3 * r64259 10BetterQuest/modules/modules.xml: BetterQuest: Comment out fubar.lua in modules.xml. It shouldn't even be enableable until it's in some sort of working state.
17:58.47revvAh, nie, thank you.
17:58.50revv*nice
17:58.51HjalteEllipsis: I'm back, any news on the aura issue?
17:59.32mytosi dunno, but i really hope someone picks it up, i really dont have the know-how and so far its become my most used mod
17:59.46Vangualdock is already abaondoned?
17:59.51cncfanaticsits a nice idea, but its tricky
17:59.57chexsum_whats dock :P
18:00.44mikmawut? abandoned? :D
18:00.53mytosi guess it is, the guy posted last week on EJ saying he was quitting wow, so id assume no more dock unless someone else grabs it
18:01.08DashkalI just managed to rm /bin/bash
18:01.18NeoTronnub
18:01.26Dashkaldamn rights I'm a nub...
18:01.45Dashkalscp some.host:/bin/bash /bin/bash to the rescue
18:01.56chexsum_looka pretty cool
18:02.13Groktari wouldn't want to even attempt dock
18:02.19keissjust switch to a console and reinstall the package ? :)
18:02.25NeoTronwhat is "dock"?
18:02.28Dashkalkeiss: doing that right now
18:02.59mytosit basically puts a box on your screen that works like the OSX dock in mach os
18:03.07mytos<PROTECTED>
18:03.26keissi wonder if anyone would want to actually use that
18:03.31Dashkaloh bloddy hell, it won't run the scripts
18:04.03keissscripts ?
18:04.04DashkalI have a console open, and I have the deb.  anybody know how to crack a deb so I can just copy the damn file out?
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18:04.22keissdkpg ?
18:04.29Fisker-PERFECT FUCKING KILL
18:04.29chexsum_isnt .deb just a tar file ?
18:04.33kergothjust modify your /etc/passwd to change your login shell to /bin/sh or /bin/dash
18:04.39kergothand just apt-get install bash
18:04.44kergothapt-get install --reinstall bash rather
18:05.14kergothyou dont need bash to run the system, its just a fancy interactive shell. the system has a more basic shell installed
18:05.15Fisker-http://i32.tinypic.com/t9ijht.jpg
18:05.18Dashkalapt-get fails because the deb post-install script cannot run
18:05.38kergothls -l /bin/sh
18:05.41Dashkalstill, -x and cp should get be hobbling enough to reinstall
18:05.42kergothit should be pointing at dash, not bash
18:05.46Dashkalit is
18:05.56NeoTronln -s /bin/dash /bin/bash
18:05.57kergothwell, post installs dont generally use bash themselves
18:05.59NeoTrontry that?
18:06.34DashkalNeoTron: I love you
18:07.00EllipsisHjalte: I can't work on the Aura problem atm, but thank you for the screenshots - I should have all the information I need to track down the issue now
18:07.01NeoTronI take it it worked
18:07.04Dashkalit did
18:07.33Arrowmasteris your /bin/sh a syslink to /bin/bash?
18:07.33Dashkalnow to do what I _actually_ inteded.  I want /bin/sh pointing to bash to see if that's why I'm having incompatibilities with another developer
18:07.35kergothbetter hope the apt-get reinstall properly overwrites the symlink instead of following it :)
18:07.41kergothArrowmaster: no, it isnt on debian machines
18:07.45kergothand it shouldnt be
18:07.48DashkalI'm running ubuntu gutsy, so /bin/sh -> /bin/dash
18:07.56kergoth<PROTECTED>
18:07.57chexsum_dpkg-deb -x <deb> looks like itll extract the files
18:07.59DashkalI want /bin/sh -> /bin/bash to see if it makes my problem go away
18:08.03kergothif you awnt bash in a script, you do #!/bin/bash
18:08.05kergothnot #!/bin/sh
18:08.07kergothplain and simple
18:08.17DashkalI'm not editing 40 shell scripts to test a theory
18:08.21Dashkaland gentoo has sh -> bash
18:08.28kergothgentoo sucks ass. also plain and simple
18:08.29Dashkalwhich the other dev is running
18:08.32kergoth:P
18:08.41DashkalHe pays my paycheque, I play by his rules *shrugs*
18:08.42kergothbut point taken, have fun
18:08.55kergothjust remember to oput it back :)
18:09.05Dashkaldamn rights I will
18:09.16Dashkalif it fixes it I know the scripts really are bash and not sh
18:09.21durcynyeah, sed -i is hard.
18:09.33Dashkaland so beings the process of #!/bin/bash in every one of those things
18:09.33mytosgentoo ftl
18:09.35durcynexplicitly calling interpreters is hard.
18:09.44durcynknowing bugger-all about unix shells is hard.
18:10.26DashkalI know bash, and that's about it
18:10.47Dashkalnever bothered to learn csh/kash/zsh/wtfsh/etcsh
18:10.50NeoTronso I am contemplating the shared marking capabilties of Magic Marker
18:11.04chexsum_ive forgotten more than most people know about nix
18:11.15NeoTronwould it be enough if you had a "slave" tht can request "mark my target" or would you want complete "mouse over marking" to work with multiple people?
18:11.20chexsum_havent used it since playing wow
18:11.30Dashkalhmmm, should code a wtfsh :p
18:11.37kergothi'd recommend learning what portable shell is.  -then- learn the bashisms on top of it, so you know how to write scripts thatll work with any shell
18:11.47kergoththe SuSv3 specification online is helpful
18:12.13DashkalI rarely write shell scripts personally.  It just doesn't come up often for me
18:12.19NeoTronor you just learn that zsh is the bestest and stop caring about portability :P
18:12.32kergothi still need to try zsh for my interactive shell
18:12.32chexsum_or just write perl scripts :P
18:12.36kergothbash is starting to bug me with its limitations
18:12.49NeoTronkergoth: I did many years ago and there were some significan pains in switching
18:12.51mytosanyone have a suggestion on a good raid marking mod?
18:12.55Dashkalchexsum_: python in my case, but exactly
18:13.05NeoTronbut what finally made me do it is readline's insistance of fuckign up the display of long lines
18:13.21NeoTronmytos: Magic Marker
18:13.22NeoTronheh
18:13.23kergothgnomecharmer is a good one for manually setting marks, magicmarker for automatic
18:13.36Dashkaloh god.  nothing can help you if you dare resize a window that bash lives in
18:13.40NeoTronthys my question above on desired marking behavior between multiple players
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18:14.23kergothi'm starting to get some crazy voodoo in my .profile/.bashrc/.bash_profile, thinking zsh may help clean it up a bit
18:14.26kergothheh
18:14.33NeoTronmytos: http://wowace.com/wiki/Magic_Marker for the brief info
18:14.45chexsum_fraps is the only thing stopping me from devoting this comp to ubuntu
18:15.01NeoTronzsh is not a magic solution to all problems.. but it did fix my long line issue which made it worth it
18:15.13NeoTronplus I quickly learned that **/*.java (etc) > find
18:15.35Dashkalnope
18:15.42chexsum_which :P
18:15.43kergothpretty sure bash has ** expansion too, though i never use it
18:15.50NeoTronit might do now
18:15.52NeoTronbut didn't then
18:15.55DashkalLooks like I get to learn sh just to figure out how my boss messed this up
18:16.10Dashkal<PROTECTED>
18:16.18NeoTronalso I swear the i-search history didn't exist in bash at the time at least
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18:18.57selckinyour first mistake is wanting to be compatible with sh
18:19.04selckinits 2008 damnit
18:20.06DashkalI didn't write the damn scripts
18:20.08DashkalI hate scripts
18:20.29Dashkaljust gimme a premade .sql to pipe into postgres and I'm happy
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18:21.52CIA-9EnchantingSell:
18:21.52CIA-9- added option to disable enchant scanning. Useful if you use the ImportDB feature, or know all the enchants already.
18:21.52CIA-9- added option to reset the enchantingseller database. useful if you are having issues.
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18:22.40kergothNeoTron: so for zsh, i see it has a lot more dotfiles.. seems nice, better organized... just wodnering how the hell to break up all the stuff from my dotilfes..
18:22.41Gngskkeiss, not only crafty but cute too, huh?
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18:22.47kergothboth zprofile and zlogin..
18:23.02Gngskzomg?
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18:28.32NeoTronkergoth: I just use one file I think :P
18:28.52NeoTronwell I use one file that executes subfiles I manually out in a directory
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18:33.11NeoTronso I take it no one has any preference how to make MAgicMarker multi-user
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18:35.02keissis there a way to make a multiline input using AceConfigDialog higher than the default 3 lines ?
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18:40.02kergoth## Someone once accused zsh of not being as complete as Emacs, because it
18:40.03kergoth## lacks Tetris and an adventure game.
18:40.03kergothautoload -U tetris
18:40.03kergothzle -N tetris
18:40.10kergothyikes
18:41.54NeoTronhmm doesn't do anything to me.
18:43.07kergothzmv '(**/)(*).bak' '$1$2' - neat
18:43.11kergothcrazy, but neat
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18:44.31NeoTronI am woefully aware that I likely know only about 1% of the magic in zsh
18:44.37sbFunkeh`: how to set transparent backdrop color? :o
18:44.51sbalpha = 0 doesnt work
18:45.27sb(if the right slider is alpha)
18:45.50kergothauto_pushd makes cd do a pushd for you? scary
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18:46.47NeoTronyes
18:46.49NeoTronthat I do use
18:47.02NeoTronand I get seriously messed up when my cd doesn't work as pushd :P
18:47.08Funkeh`sb, lock it you naab
18:47.17sbah
18:47.19sbunlock + locks!
18:47.23sbit was already locked
18:47.29Funkeh`yeah
18:47.30sbbut i have to unlock first
18:47.32Funkeh`no real way around that
18:47.59Funkeh`people wanted backdrop coloring they liv with that
18:48.06sb*sigh* :P
18:48.52Funkeh`I guess Ill change it when I add a global alpha
18:49.01kergothdamn you NeoTron, i know i'm not gonna get shit done today now
18:49.01Funkeh`let them do it themselves
18:49.04kergothgonna be all configuring this
18:49.04kergoth:P
18:49.53NeoTronhehe
18:50.12kergothhttp://svn.asyd.net/svn/zsh/trunk/ looks like a somewhat decent setup
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18:50.47Funkeh`sb, I added x, y to the clock module, take it and fit it ine somewhere in your blocks
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19:06.36Fisker-we're going to own Chompers
19:07.05NeoTronhow much did he cost you?
19:09.32iNs|Renewis there a way I can make my Pitbull Character: Name of Server profile the default setting?
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19:09.52iNs|Renewlike by changing a line of code in the savedvar file or something
19:10.02Fisker-NeoTron nothings
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19:14.20Grumkek! we just wiped on alar because our MT fell through the world and pulled him with :D
19:16.37PrimerWe had chess event glitch at 2:30 AM when honor was being assessed. Everyone DC'd and when we got back, all our pieces were gone and the event wouldn't reset
19:16.46CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64261 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0: Add :GetNumPartyMembersWithQuest(uid)
19:17.03Primerwe really wanted those last 5 badges too (can't get to prince unless you clear chess)
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19:17.51CIA-903kemayo 07Ace3 * r64262 10BetterQuest/ (config.lua core.lua): BetterQuest: Allow showing of party objective status in the trackers.
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19:28.10CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r146 10/trunk/TinyTipPositioning/TinyTipPositioning.lua: TinyTipPositioning: Fixed DB reference.
19:29.08CIA-9037destiny 07RC1 * r64263 10Ace3/AceDBOptions-3.0/AceDBOptions-3.0.lua:
19:29.08CIA-9Ace3 - AceDBOptions-3.0
19:29.08CIA-9- koKR locale
19:29.09CIA-903thrae * r64264 10TinyTipPositioning/TinyTipPositioning.lua: TinyTipPositioning: Fixed DB issue.
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19:30.17CIA-903thrae * r64265 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua:
19:30.17CIA-9TinyTip: Internal modules are now properly initialized by TinyTip (external
19:30.17CIA-9modules can initialize themselves). This should fix the DB issues and errors.
19:30.17CIA-9Tested it this time both ways. Hopefully this'll be the last issue on RC.
19:30.23DontspeakHello all. Does someone have a moment to assist me with a quick CooldownTimers 2 question?
19:30.42CIA-9037destiny 072.4 * r64266 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua:
19:30.42CIA-9Recount:
19:30.42CIA-9- Update locale koKR
19:30.47cncfanaticsDontspeak:
19:30.49cncfanatics~asktoask
19:30.50purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
19:31.02CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r146 10/trunk/TinyTipPositioning/TinyTipPositioning.lua: TinyTipPositioning: Fixed DB reference.
19:31.37DontspeakI'm trying to change the colors of the Cooldown bars for the addon, but it doesn't use any color codes. anyone happen to know what I should be using to change it?
19:32.17Hell-Razoranybody know of an addon to hide the sun/moon thing on the default minimap
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19:32.46CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r147 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Internal modules are now properly initialized by TinyTip (external modules can initialize themselves). This should fix the DB issues and errors. Tested it this time both ways. Gotta have it your way. BK.
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19:34.01teetowsomeone's keeping busy =)
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19:34.27dylanmHell-Razor: Most minimap addons have that option. In here I'm guessing people are using Chinchilla.
19:34.46dylanmDontspeak: Does it just pop up the color disc?
19:35.03Dontspeakno, it says a name, default is green yellow
19:35.14CIA-9thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r147 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Internal modules are now properly initialized by TinyTip (external modules can initialize themselves). This should fix the DB issues and errors. Tested it this time both ways. Gotta have it your way. BK.
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19:38.25Hell-Razordylanm, ty
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19:43.37RaydenUniyou guys know what the 2nd largest english wiki is?
19:43.50Grumsomething about sexxx?
19:43.55CIA-903whitetooth * r64267 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster.lua:
19:43.55CIA-9RatingBuster:
19:43.55CIA-9- Able to clear auto gem settings
19:43.57RaydenUnino
19:44.29dylanmwowwiki????
19:44.41ThorgardHmm, I seem to remember there was a /something command for chatting that sent the chat to raid if you were in a raid or to your party if you were in a party.. or perhaps I'm mistaken.
19:44.59kergothThorgard: not built in, but lots of mods add that
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19:45.23Thorgardkergoth, do you know of any off-hand?
19:45.27Fisker-can you resist anetherons carrion swarm?
19:45.52kergothThorgard: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6853-MacroTalk.html
19:45.53RaydenUnidylanm wins
19:45.59ThorgardThanks
19:46.07dylanmFisker-: Yeah.
19:46.11Fisker-weird
19:46.12kergoth<PROTECTED>
19:46.12kergoth<PROTECTED>
19:46.18kergoth<PROTECTED>
19:46.23kergothstupid irc eating /
19:46.24kergoth:P
19:47.51dylanmkergy where did you find that
19:47.54sacarascnot irc, your client
19:49.48keissFisker-: i think you can
19:50.01dylanmSome people wear SR for it I guess.
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19:55.28kergothdylanm: pasted out of the link i just pasted to thor
19:55.29kergothheh
19:55.34kergothmeh, need caffeine
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19:57.16kebinusanbleh mt
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19:59.01Fisker-WTB time rift accelerator for mount hyjal
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19:59.43robotuschno u
19:59.44Fisker-yes me
20:00.27robotusch:(
20:01.11EvilJohn__heh
20:01.13EvilJohn__yeah totally
20:01.26EvilJohn__wiping on the last wave before a boss is really unfun
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20:02.25EvilJohn__it would have been nice if blizard would have put a rep reward for every profession there
20:02.32keissat least you get reputation ....
20:02.46EvilJohn__yeah, so helpful
20:02.59keisssince we started to 1shot everything the reputation is incoming so slowly ... :D
20:03.04EvilJohn__heh
20:03.20EvilJohn__I think we're going tohave a good shot at 1 shotting the first three tomorrow
20:04.17kergothhmm, no more getting talents from enemies in 2.4?
20:06.22kergothhmm, MinimapTarget addon doesnt seem to work with chinchilla
20:07.14ckknightkergoth: MinimapTarget?
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20:07.43kergothjust a little addon for targeting a minimap blip when out of combat.. i expect its probably the way it hooks the onclick
20:08.22kergothyeah thats it i'm sure, its hooking Minimap_OnClick instead of hooking the current OnClick script
20:08.23kergothsilly
20:09.29CIA-903ckknight * r64268 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Compiler.lua Parser.lua test.lua): LibDogTag-3.0 - add reserved words true and false, which essentially translate into "True" and nil, respectively.
20:09.38Fisker-wtf
20:09.43Fisker-my divine favor won't cast
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20:10.57sacarascthat's because you've turned into a D&D paladin and as such are too stupid to do magic
20:11.33sbFunkeh`: i have to lock+unlock every time after login :/
20:11.40p3limwhat does the lua function "len" do?
20:11.41kergothoh, its chinchilla_ping.. i see
20:12.03zaplkergoth: "MinimapTarget" is the name of that addon?
20:12.05DashkalHas anybody had issues with ag_UF tainting blizzard raid panels?
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20:12.12kergothzapl: yep
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20:13.13Elsiaheya
20:13.14p3limanyone?
20:13.26Josh_Borkelen?
20:13.34Josh_Borkelua> len()
20:13.34lua_botJosh_Borke: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'len' (a nil value)
20:13.55zaplsting.len?
20:14.01Josh_Borkep3lim: nothing
20:14.05keissis ChatThrottleLib still supposed to work ?
20:14.06Josh_Borkelua> string.len("fred")
20:14.06lua_botJosh_Borke: 4
20:14.07p3limnothing?
20:14.11kergothlua> #"fred"
20:14.12lua_botkergoth: 4
20:14.20p3limah counts letters
20:14.30Josh_Borkelen does nothing, string.len counts the number of characters
20:14.36Josh_Borkecan anyone do UTF-8 characters?
20:14.48Stanzillaö
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20:15.03keiss中
20:15.15Josh_Borkelua> string.len("中")
20:15.15lua_botJosh_Borke: 3
20:15.24Josh_Borkegotta be careful of that p3lim ;-)
20:15.40kergothyea thats not utf8 aware.. isnt there that utf8 lib that pasta did, though?
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20:16.28Wogroipl_if I have LibSharedMedia-3.0 installed, do I still need Sharedmedialib and/or LibSharedMedia-2.0?
20:17.07p3limif sting.len()>0 then
20:17.16p3limstring.len()>0 *
20:17.44kergothWogroipl_: you need whatever the addons you use use
20:17.46kergothplain and simple
20:18.15Wogroipl_guess some addons need updates then :P
20:18.45Wogroipl_because I now have 3 libs that do the same thing I think?
20:19.03p3limif not (str and str:len()>0) then break end
20:19.10p3limthats what im writing
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20:19.54Josh_Borkewogroipl_: correct
20:19.56zapllua>
20:19.56zaplprint(#â€fi_oâ€)
20:19.57lua_botzapl: No output
20:20.06zapllua> print(#â€fi_oâ€)
20:20.07lua_botzapl: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'â'
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20:20.34zapllua> print(#"fi_o")
20:20.35lua_botzapl: 4
20:20.42keisshm outputting 6 lines of text using ChatThrottleLib with settings set to 1/2 gets me d/c ... what am i doing wrong (outputing to a custom channel)
20:20.44zaplstupid copy paste
20:21.01Josh_Borkekeiss: ChatThrottleLib doesn't support channels, does it?
20:21.17NandiniWogroipl_: if those addons still work as advertised, do they really "need" updates?
20:21.27keissJosh_Borke: does ... its even on the wiki as example "CHANNEL" and destination as the channel index
20:21.39Josh_Borkereally?  didn't know that
20:21.50keissJosh_Borke: is there an alternative ? :)
20:22.01Josh_Borkenot that i know of, do custom channels yourself
20:22.47CIA-903ckknight * r64269 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Modules/Operators.lua Parser.lua test.lua):
20:22.47CIA-9LibDogTag-3.0 - fix = and ~= operators slightly.
20:22.47CIA-9- standardization will turn any strings that can act as numbers into numbers properly.
20:22.56p3limGetDefaultLanguage("target"), would that check if the unit is a player too?
20:23.50NandiniFor example, you may have several versions of the .NET framework installed on your computer. Does WAU "need" an update because it still uses .NET 2.0?
20:24.47keissno ... WAU needs an update because it crashes all the time on ads except on the wowdb one :D
20:26.15kergothKemayo: would be kinda nice to have a sharedmedia based font selection option for betterquest, for the tracker at least :)
20:33.08Zeksiewhen setting up a packe for wau, is it necessary to set X-Embeds for modules as well as the main bit?
20:33.14Zeksiepackage*
20:33.37FtH|Daemonahttp://www.funnyexamanswers.com/img/infinity5.jpg
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20:35.46chiperFtH|Daemona: hah
20:36.04Nandiniit took me a second to realize that was a 5 on its side :)
20:36.11chiperyeah, me too
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20:37.45Kemayokergoth: I could work something out for that.  I'll have to go look at how sharedmedia works.
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20:40.04ShirikRaydenUni: When you declare a variable as extern, it needs to exist elsewhere too
20:40.07Shirikuh
20:40.10Shirikwrong channel
20:40.39RaydenUnilol
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20:40.54RaydenUnihey there
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20:52.50Fisker-yay Chompers
20:53.04zapllua> print("\b\b\b\b\b\b\b/me is stupid")
20:53.04lua_botzapl: /me is stupid
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20:55.30Fisker-files.wowace.com down?
20:57.37Funkeh`yes
20:57.41Fisker-NOES
20:57.45Funkeh`have patience my padawan
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20:58.34PrimerArrowmaster: is FuBar_SpeedFu yours?
20:58.37mitchnullsvn is teh down?
20:58.56Groktarseems everything is teh down
20:59.01mitchnull:(
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20:59.33mitchnullgotta play without decursive tonight then ;)
21:00.11Fisker-teh down
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21:02.10keissJosh_Borke: so the problem was apparently that having a newline symbol in a message = d/c :)
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21:02.49Josh_Borkekeiss: yes, that is true
21:02.52Josh_Borkeyou cannot do that
21:03.06keissyeah , i found out eventually :) ... just sending it line by line now
21:05.22CIA-903kergoth * r64270 10MinimapTarget/MinimapTarget.lua: MinimapTarget: work around the incompatibility with Chinchilla's Ping module.
21:05.42Fisker-OMG INFERNALS
21:06.11keisshehe i get it you passed 3rd boss ?
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21:06.31Fisker-yeah
21:06.55Groktari love infernal waves
21:07.10keisswe usually just send 1 tank + 1 healer + few dps to handle them, rest stays down
21:07.11Groktaronly thing i like in hyjal
21:14.24Fisker-ooh
21:14.26Fisker-new ptr patch
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21:17.14Zeksiegreat.. let's se what they broke now
21:17.32Xinhuanhttp://xkcd.com/394/
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21:17.35Xinhuanhahaha owned
21:18.47kergothhah
21:18.52kergothi love the drivemakers kilobyte
21:19.07CIA-903kemayo 07kemayo * r64271 10LibSimpleFrame-1.0/LibSimpleFrame-1.0.lua: LibSimpleFrame-1.0: Add a Font method to lines. (drycode)
21:19.15keissnah intel kilobyte is the best :)
21:19.19kergothhehe
21:19.25Xinhuanread the comic before that one too
21:19.31Xinhuanits a pretty good tribute
21:19.38Zeksiepentium... yeah
21:20.17CIA-903kemayo 07Ace3 * r64272 10BetterQuest/ (BetterQuest.toc config.lua core.lua embeds.xml):
21:20.17CIA-9BetterQuest: Drycode!
21:20.17CIA-9-Use LibSharedMedia-3.0 to let people choose their font.
21:20.24Kemayokergoth: That might, possibly, work.
21:20.32kergothhehe
21:20.33kergothk
21:20.45erzyGuess what council dropped
21:21.08evlYour long lost vibrator?
21:21.18PolarinaHaha.. The crash log contains the in-game position (X, Y and Z) of my character. :P
21:21.19erzyUnfortunatly not
21:22.30Xinhuanso Polarina, wanna crash your client 200000 times to get a height map of every location in wow? :)
21:22.38Fisker-noes
21:22.41Fisker-manasurge doesn't work
21:22.52PolarinaXinhuan: Exactly! :D
21:23.21keissFisker-: woot ?
21:23.48Zeksiecool! keep us posted
21:24.31keissFisker-: give details pls
21:24.47Fisker-it tainted
21:25.09Fisker-wut
21:25.11Fisker-now it works
21:25.16Fisker-didn't work before
21:25.19CIA-903stalake * r64273 10GearEvaluator/ (. GearEvaluator.lua): GearEvaluator: Made some changes to prepare for the new modular solution
21:25.39Fisker-when spellsurge procced i got the interface action interrupted by taint or whatever
21:26.57evlHaha
21:27.01evlplay of the day!
21:27.08evlPage 75 of the Roguecraft Thread on EJ, this guy comes in saying SnD is a waste of energy.
21:27.27keissFisker-: turn on the logging , if it happens again ... and bug me :)
21:27.29chiperhmm.  wish wowhead had something similar to Armory's Find Upgrades function.  one that actually values the stats instead of just using ilevel
21:27.46Fisker-new recipe wee
21:27.49Fisker-yeah keiss
21:27.53Xinhuanevl, reading forums is a waste of energy too :)
21:28.04Ellipsiswait, the armory's upgrade thingy is supposed to value the stats?
21:28.21chiperno
21:28.26chiperI'm saying I wish it could
21:28.34NivFreakthat thing is a joke
21:28.43evlXinhuan: But it's fun :D
21:28.45EllipsisI was gonna say...if that's their idea of stat weighting, they need to l2play
21:28.47NivFreakI really love it for feral druids
21:28.52CIA-903stalake * r64274 10GearEvaluator_ItemBonusLib/: GearEvaluator_ItemBonusLib: Created trunk directory for new addon
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21:29.02Xinhuanthey probably don't want to do any stat weighting
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21:29.22Xinhuanor it will create a lot of controversy
21:29.27chiperbut I know there's upgrades that Armory doesn't give me
21:29.38Xinhuangot an example?
21:29.43Fisker-swiftheal wraps :)
21:29.47Xinhuansee, the word "upgrade" is controversial itself
21:29.50chiperno, because it doesn't list them :)
21:30.02Xinhuanif you are at hitcap, then a gear that gives a lot of hit isn't an upgrade ;d
21:30.20NivFreakwell, not usually :)
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21:30.48zaplchiper: http://thottbot.com/score/customize
21:30.51chiperI have a spell dagger that I got out of kara.  according to armory, that's the #6 best dagger in the game for mages.  I find that surprising
21:30.53Zeksiefull loading bar for 4 mins now.... lalala. will make some coffee... go go eu ptr..
21:31.08Xinhuani dunno about you, but i an currently frost spec and i am wearing 171 spellhit (as a mage), and this is about 50 spellhit over the cap after you count talents ;p
21:31.10chiperzapl: interesting
21:32.19Fisker-:D
21:32.22Fisker-our waves are bugged
21:32.28Fisker-so they spawn on the timer now
21:32.46Fisker-they don't start immediately after the wave
21:32.54Elsiaanyone able to successfully log onto the PTR? I seem to be stuck after the loading bar is full
21:33.42Xinhuanits probably crashing
21:34.48Zeksiewow.. it loaded...
21:35.03Zeksietook so long, i logged in with afk flag up
21:35.28chiperI've timed out on loading before
21:36.15Xinhuanwhat are you testign zeksie
21:36.22Zeksierofl.. shutdown in 15:00....
21:36.22Elsiaserver shutdown in 15 mins though
21:36.27Zeksienow 2
21:36.43Zeksiejust wanna make sure grim still works.
21:37.33Elsiathey still didn't fix SPELL_SUMMON for greater elementals :P
21:37.52Zeksiewill read thru the diff isntead.
21:38.03Xinhuanit should still work
21:38.09Xinhuani didn't see any major changes
21:39.08Zeksiewell. wanted to see if i could put back in the code for tokens, but i'll just have to keep with using Grim's own one for now
21:40.10Xinhuani actually doubt if blizz wanted to use the token code
21:40.20Zeksieyeah. confusing for simple folk i guess ;)
21:40.46Zeksienice if it was in as an option tho. but we'll have combat log mods soon enough
21:40.46Xinhuanpossibly it might be made into an option
21:41.01Zeksiei didn't have to do much to their code to make it work
21:41.17Zeksieon another note... geiv svn account. :(
21:41.22Zeksie12 days no reply.
21:41.32Xinhuanyou'll have to bug kaelten for that one
21:41.38Xinhuani think he's the only one that can give out an account
21:41.57Zeksiek
21:41.58Kaeltensorry guys I've been slammed between work and having relatives visit from out of town
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21:42.08KaeltenI have about 20 svn emails backed up
21:42.10Xinhuanthere u go
21:42.44Kaeltenlol,  I'm going to play catch up here soon.
21:42.51Zeksieyeah. no problem. long as i know it's pending and not lost :)
21:43.10Kaeltenoh, that I can't attest too, ;)
21:43.19Zeksie:)
21:43.39Kaeltenbut ya I'm just running behind on a lot of stuff
21:43.45Fisker-1½ minute on azgalor :P
21:43.48Fisker-pretty nice
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21:43.59KaeltenI used to play on azgalor
21:44.14Xinhuanwhat class do you play Zeksie
21:44.19Zeksiemain is rogue
21:44.31Xinhuanwhat raiding tier is your guild at?
21:44.36Zeksiejust killed illidan
21:44.43Zeksieyesterday in fact
21:44.44Xinhuanand how many use xperl? ;d
21:44.45erzythought it was 0.5 ;/
21:44.51Zeksieabout 85%
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21:45.09Kaeltenbtw guys, I'm looking at revamping/updating the categories list, as well as standardizing them geif opinions please
21:45.10Kaeltenhttp://paste.kaelten.com/show/8/
21:45.19Xinhuana little survey in my guild revealed a good 1/3 uses it, 1/3 uses pitbull and the last 1/3 uses the default UI (lol)
21:45.28YssarilXinhuan: what do you think http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/9232/auraui6.jpg <--- thats 40 buffs/debuffs
21:45.33Zeksiedefault... omg
21:45.48XinhuanROFL at the rotated buff icons
21:45.55Xinhuanit "feels funny"
21:46.11Zeksiethat's.... i think i'd have to smoke something to play with that
21:46.15Xinhuani think it would look better if you have a round mask and not rotate them
21:46.57XinhuanKaelten, why is wowace down? :)
21:47.00Zeksieyeah. texture area don't rotate... perhaps if you could mask off what was outside the real texture. looks a bit odd atm
21:47.01keissdefinitely dont rotate ...
21:47.02Xinhuanits been down about 8 hours now
21:47.08Kaeltenits not?
21:47.09ulicKaelten: are there so many HUDs that they need their own category?
21:47.11YssarilXinhuan: was gonna do a round mask and rotate them :)
21:47.19keissulic: had the same thought :)
21:47.20Xinhuani can't access anything, it just loads forever
21:47.23Xinhuanforums that is
21:47.41Kaeltenulic: a lot of more of those than some of the other categories
21:47.50KaeltenXinhuan: loaded in < 5 seconds for me
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21:48.00Xinhuandamn, so its something on my end
21:48.15Kaeltentry flushing cookies and load (on off chance?)
21:48.18ZeksieKaelten: don't see anything obvious missing from cats.
21:48.40Zeksieyeah. forum is fine here.
21:48.48keissKaelten: maybe guild -> social (to include stuff like friends, ignore, etc ...)
21:48.50Xinhuancan access everything but forum hmmm
21:49.01NeoTronKaelten: I was missing a game / minigame category
21:49.17KaeltenNeoTron: example addon?
21:49.19ulicI guess HUDs could be alot of things, not just IceHUD and ArcHUD.
21:49.23NeoTronGravBlox
21:49.30YssarilXinhuan: could be a routing issue?
21:49.34Kaeltentetris like thing?
21:49.36Xinhuanfirefox just says "loading..." and it stays like that for 4 hours
21:49.38Xinhuano_O
21:49.39Zeksiemmm. logging and stats maybe
21:49.40Xinhuannot even a timeout
21:49.51Kaeltenxinhuan, try it in i.e/safari?
21:50.36Fisker-ooh
21:50.38Fisker-azgalor is mean
21:50.39KaeltenNeoTron: is that a tetris like thing?
21:50.47Xinhuanwhoa IE7 works
21:50.50NeoTronKaelten: yep
21:51.02KaeltenXinhuan: try deleting all of wowace's cookies
21:51.02Nandinithe traditional HUD concept in wow addons was as unitframe replacements or supplements, so they fit pretty well into the "UnitFrame" category, i'd say
21:51.10Xinhuani better restart firefox and clear the cache :<
21:51.27Nandinibut there are some informational HUDs now too that have nothing to do with unitframes
21:51.31Kaeltenya restarting firefox on ocassion is a good ideas
21:52.31Kaeltenupdated list: http://paste.kaelten.com/show/9/
21:52.42Xinhuanok restarting works ^^
21:52.47Dashkalthe new stat blocks mod would be a good example of a non unitframe hud
21:52.47Xinhuani wonder why
21:52.52Zeksieso yeah, Kaelten. Would be eternally greatful if you could expidite my account. Got a couple of mods ready to go on there, and was thinking of dropping XPerl onto it too. undecided on that one. opinions?
21:52.55keissKaelten: you have Damage Dealers, Caster, missing Melee ?
21:53.43KaeltenXinhuan: I've seen similar behavior
21:53.46Yssarildamn they are making a Stargate MMO http://www.stargateworlds.com
21:53.59KaeltenZeksie: we'd be happy to have you host all the stuff :)
21:54.05Zeksieyeah. i was offered a job for them. but i'm in UK, and they're in Pheonix :|
21:54.08NeoTronYssaril: welcome to years ago?
21:54.17ckknightZeksie: down with XPerl!
21:54.22KaeltenYssaril: yep got to talk to one of their people here in the office, saw some footage, awesome stuff.
21:54.25YssarilNeoTron: bah have been out of the loo[ i guess :P
21:54.29ckknightZeksie: actually I don't care, good luck with it all
21:54.31ckknight:-)
21:54.35KaeltenCompetition is good ;)
21:54.36Nandinithe role-based categories i've seen used elsewhere are simply "tank, healer, ranged dps, melee dps"
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21:54.55XinhuanZeksie, it'll make updating my mods easier ;p
21:54.56Zeksieonly thing I wish with X-Perl, is I'd knew more when I took it on and re-wrote the thing.
21:55.17NeoTronjust rewrite it and release Y-Perl
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21:55.27Zeksieit's too big and i'm too old ;)
21:55.29XinhuanBAM NeoTron wins
21:55.55NandiniI'd prefer SexPerl
21:56.06ckknightZeksie: hehe, I'm sure if I rewrote PitBull it could be a bit better
21:56.09KemayoIt's always fun to throw everything away and do it *right* this time.  (Until you look at it again in a month or two.)
21:56.09ZeksieSexPerl... ZeksPerl... sound familiar.
21:56.13ckknightI just have to suffice with touching it up little by little
21:56.20Yssarilzeksie make it smaller :P
21:56.51Zeksieit's not that big atm.
21:56.51Elsiakaelten: where should info addons go in that classification, i.e. fubar, statblock, stuff like that?
21:57.12Zeksievery low garbage production.. i'm fine with it's memory usage
21:57.18Nandinii usually use PitBull when i'm soloing, but use X-Perl in groups and raids
21:57.37Nandinii've been teetering back and forth for months
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21:58.00Xinhuanhow do you switch between them Nandini?
21:58.16Nandinilog out, enable xperl, disable pitbull
21:58.27Nandinisince all the modules have dependencies, i only have to switch those two
21:59.04Nandinii think my biggest issue is comfort factor, because groups and raids tend to be higher stress situations, so i reach for the old familiar xperl
21:59.43Nandinialso because buffs and debuffs have always "just worked" in xperl
22:00.06OsstiaI am the same Nandini
22:00.32Osstiaon my laptop, where i spend most of my time farming and soloing i use pitbull.  On my desktop where I raid I use xperl
22:00.55Nandinithat's good to know, i don't feel so crazy now :)
22:00.55Zeksiei find that it's more popular in the raid community, rather than soloers
22:01.26Groktarxperl has that grim reaper thing.  are there any other mods with similar functionality?
22:01.39Nandinii'd suggest recount's death report :)
22:01.41ZeksieGrim Reaper will be standalone with 2.4
22:01.56Groktaro?
22:01.59Zeksieand it's 500% better than old one
22:02.02keissrecount / assessment have it too
22:02.03KaeltenI forget who it is, but Melee is somethign we thought about adding but we where trying to figure it it'd be used
22:02.09Xinhuanthere is something called Expiration Zeksie
22:02.12Xinhuanu could look at that
22:02.13Groktari couldn't figure out the grim reaper in xperl
22:02.30Groktarjust every once in a while this teeny frame would appear over people's names
22:02.34Groktarand i couldn't read it
22:02.43Xinhuanits just health bars in the last few moments of their life ;p
22:02.43Groktartook me forever to figure out what it was
22:02.43Zeksieyeah. saw most of the alternatives. but ppl seem to like the instant access to 'why did XXX die'
22:02.55keissKaelten: i just saw a non-symetry there , i cant even think of a mod i would put into 'caster' , so if there are none ... np :)
22:03.07Xinhuanwhy did XXX die is often related to other combat log entries that has nothing to do with the health of your tank
22:03.14Xinhuanfor example, the boss parries 2 attacks in a row
22:03.20Zeksiegrim reaper doesn't only monitor takn
22:03.22Kaeltenkeiss: Clique and that ilk would be a 'caster' addon
22:03.24Zeksiemonitors all
22:03.32Xinhuanand the parry thing is quite common
22:03.43Xinhuanif the pet AI isn't good enough, a pet ends up going in front of a boss
22:03.46Xinhuancauses boss to parry
22:03.47Xinhuangg
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22:03.50cladhaireClique sucks
22:04.06Nandininothing seems to use the caster, healer, or damage dealers categories from what i see, though
22:05.22Zeksieso... i have this package, with a number of modules. do i have to move them into modules folder of main mod and let wau sort it out later on user's end? did the filelist etc. just not sure on the initial commit
22:05.24Nandiniplus i know a rogue who uses clique to bandage himself or other people as well as mount and dismount
22:05.40keisslol
22:06.06Nandinii was amused when he told me that, but it's a pretty innovative use i thought
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22:06.33keissi can 'understand' the bandaging, but what is the reason to use click-casting for mounting ? lol
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22:07.05Nandiniprobably because he didn't have a spare actionbar button for his mount macro?
22:07.17Zeksieor are the modules externals, but they would then all show up in the main wau file list..
22:07.19zaplKaelten: maybe something for automation addons like autosell/restock/repair
22:07.44Elsiathat'd be under auction & economy I suppose
22:07.49chexsum_zek, read the svn tutorial on the wowace site
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22:07.58Nandinior autosell/restock could fit under "Bags & Inventory"
22:08.03Zeksieyeah. am doing. is why i asked.
22:08.19Kaeltennandini, also some of them fit under the auction & economy
22:08.32Kaeltenone thing thats coming with the new site is multiple category support
22:08.39Nandinii was just about to ask that :)
22:08.51keissin that case why not add Automation ?
22:08.53Xinhuanfact though, is that soem addons fit in more than 1 category
22:09.04Kaeltenkeiss I'll added to the list for suggested.
22:09.25Nandinitrue, with this new category list, GatherHUD could fit under H.U.D.s and Tradeskills
22:09.50Kaeltenone person has suggested renaming tradeskills to professions
22:09.51Kaeltenthoughts?
22:09.56keissso its more like Tags now ...
22:10.16NandiniI agree that professions would be more appropriate, since usually people think only of crafting skills when they see Tradeskills.
22:10.31Xinhuani suggest fixing up the X-Embeds system first, or totally revamping the svn system - something discussed 7 months ago with a "changes coming soon" promise
22:10.52Kaeltenxinhuan also in place
22:11.04Elsiaprofessions > tradeskills in my mind
22:11.06Xinhuanbut there has been no news/updates of any sort
22:11.25Kaeltennot sure if what I have will please everyone but i do have changes
22:11.42Elsiathere is no way to please everyone :P
22:11.48Xinhuanwell tell everyone about these changes
22:11.54Nandiniwhat fits into the "data export" category?
22:12.06KaeltenNandini: things like the cgProfiler
22:12.06PolarinaI can't log into the PTRs (No realms), anyone has the same issue? Also, the game lists Development as the only realm language. Where are the English realms? :'(
22:12.09Kaeltenhttp://paste.kaelten.com/show/11/
22:12.21zaplwhere would castingbars go?
22:12.34Elsiacastingbars == combat
22:12.34KaeltenZapl, what is castingbars, hehe
22:12.41Kaeltenthere is also a Caster bar
22:12.45Kaeltener Caster category
22:13.04Kaeltenand its not quite tags, since its not freeform
22:13.05NandiniWhat is the difference between a Game and a Minigame?
22:13.11KaeltenNandini: no idea
22:13.28Nandiniseems redundant
22:13.33Kaeltenprobably should just be minigames
22:13.48NivFreakhrmm
22:13.56NivFreakcan you /cancelaura nether protection?
22:14.04Kaeltenhttp://paste.kaelten.com/show/12/
22:14.04Elsiastill don't know where fubar and statblocks should go
22:14.05Zeksieand is a packaged mod supposed to work if it's not un-packaged?
22:14.19chiperKaelten: Physical DPS would probably be better then "Damage Dealers"
22:14.22KaeltenZeksie: generally speaking yes
22:14.29NandiniThere is a category for "Raids & Encounters" but no category for Dungeons
22:14.30Zeksiewill have to test that ;)
22:14.33chipersince technically casters are Damage Dealers
22:14.47KaeltenNandini: that'd fall under R&E
22:14.49Nandiniwhere would LittleWigs fit in?
22:14.57KaeltenNandini:  R&E
22:15.22Kaeltenused to have a party category but other people I talked to convinced me to condense them (raids and party)
22:15.43Elsiamaybe have Information Displays for fubar and statblock-like addons?
22:15.51Kaeltenhrm
22:15.54NeoTronJust minigames seems fine since a game in a game = minigame. IMHO :)
22:16.01SnagoAnd where would IHML fit in? I want a "Automacro-thingy"-category :P
22:16.08NandiniFubar would fit into that too
22:16.49chiperKaelten: did you see what I said about Damage Dealers?
22:16.54Nandinimost of these categories describe situational uses of addons, however H.U.D.s reflects only the presentational aspect of an addon
22:17.09Kaeltenchiper: ya, I'm not sure about that one in general either though
22:17.21Nandinicouldn't all HUDs be classified simply into Unit Frames or Information Displays?
22:17.32KaeltenNandini, probably
22:17.34YssarilKaelten: will we  have to chose one category per addon or can one addon be in multible categories?
22:17.43Xinhuanmost addons are informational displays
22:17.45Kaeltencould drop huds and replace with information displays I suppose.
22:17.49Xinhuanraid frames are informational displays
22:17.51KaeltenYssaril: multiples
22:17.59Xinhuanminimap is informational displays
22:17.59YssarilKaelten: k
22:18.10KaeltenXinhuan: also true, I'm trying to avoid vast generic categories
22:18.20Kaeltenwhich is why I dropped 'interface enhancements'
22:18.21ElsiaI don't actually like informational displays as category, but gief better for fubar-like addons
22:18.26SnagoTooltips are informational displays
22:18.32Nandinii think Informational Displays would cover things not part of the standard blizzard UI
22:18.44KaeltenElsia: we need to find a good name for it
22:18.48Yssarilhuds are info displays
22:18.52Kaelteneven ckk doesn't have a good idea for that
22:19.02ElsiaHow about Information Organisers?
22:19.06ckknightMiscellaneous!
22:19.13chiperStatus Display
22:19.22Nandini"E. None of the above"
22:19.28chiperhah
22:19.43chiperckknight: there already is a Misc category
22:19.50ckknightI know
22:19.54ckknightthat's what FuBar falls under
22:19.54[Ammo]I want a 'Buried in my backyard' category
22:20.01Elsiafeels kinda wrong to have massively used addons in the misc category
22:20.14chiperElsia: yeah, that was my thinking as well
22:20.15ckknightfeels kinda wrong but oh so right
22:20.23Kaelten[Ammo]: 'Skeleton's in my closet' ?
22:20.35[Ammo]or maybe
22:20.39[Ammo]"Here be Dragons"
22:20.42NandiniFubar is a kind of informational display that has no analog in the default Blizzard UI
22:20.51Nandiniunlike most of the other categories
22:21.00Nandinisame with stat blocks, etc
22:21.12chipertechnically, Fubar on it's own doesn't display anything
22:21.25Elsiait's artwork!
22:21.27Kaeltenya, maybe a "Supplemental Interface" category?
22:21.34Kaeltenthat doesn't seem right though
22:21.38chiper[Ammo]: ahahaha
22:21.42Nandinii think you're on the right track though
22:21.58Kaelten[Ammo], how about "Black Magicks"
22:22.06CIA-903ammo * r64276 10SmoothQuest/SmoothQuest.lua: SmoothQuest: update questwatch coloring after log update
22:22.22chiperStatistical Outputs
22:22.43Elsianothing statistical about fubar per se :P
22:23.19keissConfiguration maybe ?
22:23.26Nandinihmm is it an Alternative Interface ?
22:23.32Nandinii guess most addons are alternatives though
22:23.33Elsianah it isn't config either, though that may be a worthy category for other reasons
22:23.38chiperno, not on it's own, but aside from configuration plugins, most fubar items do show statistical data
22:23.51SnagoHow about an "Ace3" category? *puts on fire resistance gear*
22:23.53Kaeltenwell the plugins have their own categories
22:23.57Elsiaempty bag slots or arrows isn't exactly statistical
22:24.03Kaelten~lart snago
22:24.03purldrops a baby grand on snago
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22:24.22Elsiai do kinda like Information Organizer, that's what fubar kinda does
22:24.31Kaeltendidn't put on your piano resistance gear now did ya!
22:24.41Snagodammit >.<
22:24.42chiperhmm, how about Modular Extensions
22:24.52Kaeltenbrb
22:25.05ElsiaBody Modifications
22:25.17Chaudhow can I tell what auras proximo 2 will display =\
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22:25.40Nandiniread the Lua?
22:26.01Nandinior ask in his forum post to list them, since he said it would be a "select few"
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22:27.07NandiniI wonder if people would understand "Guild & Friends" better than "Guild & Social"
22:27.52Chaudfriends tells me something, social doesnt =\
22:28.14PolarinaCould someone explain to me the logic behind this? http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/Stormwatch123/WoWScrnShot_031108_160942.jpg
22:28.36Nandinii would guess most players don't know exactly what is meant by the social frame, they simply think guild & friends
22:28.39SnagoBut Social is also for non-friends, like KoS-lists?
22:28.53keissexactly ... Social fits ignore too
22:29.07keissRP too ...
22:29.12ChaudPolarina is that oldish?
22:29.14NandiniSocial fits Guild too then :P so wouldn't it just be Social?
22:29.21Chaudyou could teleport into arenas
22:29.46PolarinaChaud: No, it's 2.4.0 PTR.
22:30.03Chaudyeah, you could do it this PTR for about half a day =p
22:30.10Nandinithere was a PTR bug where players could use the teleport command to join an active arena instance
22:30.10Chauda "long" time ago =p
22:30.42Elsiapolariana: pet got frost nova'd and tries to attack but is out of range?
22:31.08Elsiaoh i see
22:31.12Josh_Borke19 players?
22:31.13Josh_Borkewtf
22:31.17NandiniPTR bug
22:31.22Nandininow fixed
22:31.33Chaudhappened in 2.2 or 2.3 as well
22:31.35Chaudpretty fun
22:32.08Snago.o0( Blizzard always manage to break the weirdest things )
22:32.19Nandinihmm the date of that screenshot has today's date in it though, maybe the bug is back and that's why PTRs are down
22:32.29ChaudGm command on, /console worldport xxx or something
22:32.58Primerso speed calculation in addons is only achieved via comparing the time it take to get from where you were to where you are?
22:33.08Primertakes, even
22:33.19Josh_Borkeprimer: yes
22:33.23Primerwhat if you're flying and going straight up?
22:33.35Nandinithen you are moving at zero speed
22:33.40Primeryou still have speed, just not horizontal speed
22:33.44Primerthat's gay
22:33.55PolarinaPrimer: The only way to acquire the Z coordinates then is to crash the client and check the crash log.
22:34.01Nandinikeep lobbying for your Z-coordinate :P
22:34.11PrimerI got no response to it :(
22:34.18Primeronly one dude seconded it, and that was it
22:34.38Zeksieehh. is there an xml directive to include another xml file? trying to get my modules.xml to point to submod\locales\locales.xml.
22:34.43Primerthat thread's pretty much died down too
22:34.44SnagoWell, technicly.. Now that we know it's available Blizzard might as well provide us with an easier API ;)
22:35.03Chaud=) someome posted the full version carbonite addon lol
22:35.23SnagoWhat is Carbonite?
22:35.24Josh_Borkethat's not really funny
22:35.25zaplgiev
22:35.29Nandiniit's only available at one point in time, when you crash the client, which means it is never available in-game
22:35.32PrimerI've been trying to simply add a speed indicator to my flight addon
22:35.41Primerso I stole the code from FuBar_SpeedFu
22:35.49ChaudCarbonite is a leveling addon that someone is charging a little bit for
22:35.51Primers/stole/borrowed/
22:35.53Elsiathey may fix the crash log actually
22:35.56Nandinithat will give you linear ground speed
22:36.20SnagoI don't see how anyone expects to be able to sell addons
22:36.38Industrialaahh i cant hear you LALALALA
22:36.41chiperyeah, that's a pretty silly idea
22:36.57Josh_Borkewhether it is silly or not, does it make it right to steal the addon?
22:36.58dylanm_Zeksie: <Include file="libs\LibBlah\LibBlah.xml" />
22:36.59Nandiniplus, if you need to know your actual airspeed, just look at your mount and your buffs/debuffs
22:37.09zaplthat minimap thing carbonite does is realy nice to use.
22:37.17ChaudI don't pay for anything, regardless of right so...
22:37.19dylanm_Rather than <Script />
22:37.29Zeksiethx dylanm
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22:37.36ChaudBesides, not going to use it
22:37.39Zeksiewas just about to try just that. :)
22:37.49ChaudJust want to see how their ToS forced accept works
22:37.53chiperEllipsis: prostitution's bad, mmkay?
22:38.00CIA-903kemayo 07Ace3 * r64277 10BetterQuest/modules/ (modules.xml playernotify.lua sink.lua): BetterQuest: Rename notify module to sink. Add failing quests and party progress to it.
22:38.07Ellipsiswho said anything about prostitution?
22:38.14EllipsisI was just selling him cookies!
22:38.17Industrialyour mom
22:38.18IndustrialWOOOOOO
22:38.19dylanm_Ellipsis did you do in Spitzer
22:38.20Ellipsisyou know, like those nice girl scouts do
22:38.29ChaudI love their License Agreement, (2) The Software (in both object and source code forms) constitutes valuable trade secret information of Company, and You may not reverse-engineer, decompile or disassemble the Software or otherwise attempt to gain access to the source code for the Software.
22:38.39IndustrialEllipsis: dont take it personal :p
22:38.54zaplthat reminds me of: i needs to decompile it. now.
22:39.02chiperheh, girlscouts, best child labor loophole in the country
22:39.11dylanm_Someone write a zoomer for fun.
22:39.19dylanm_That's the main feature.
22:39.42Chaudoh lies, the 1.8mb addon lua is random symbols =\
22:40.36Josh_Borkeit's obfuscated
22:41.00Kaeltenback
22:41.03Josh_Borkethough, it would be an opportunity to make sure they didn't use any code that is copyrighted differently
22:41.21HjalteDamn, overaggroed a couple of times in p2 on Reliquary :(
22:41.31HjalteOver several attempts anyway
22:41.33ChaudSo what do they do with ,b4C+B.K>P$M!rwWA\\
22:41.37chiperheh, we looked at doing that once when I worked on a JS project.  we wrote a little tool that went through a did a find&replace on all our variable names to use underscores of different lengths
22:41.43PolarinaPrimer: For flying speed measurements, you need one boolean value, two trinary values and one crumb value; one telling you the state of the run/walk toggle, trinary value to tell you if you're moving forwards, still or moving backwards, and the second whether your flying mount is 60%, 280% or 310%, and the crumb telling you you have none, 10%, 20% or 30% speed increase.
22:41.48chiperchaud: are you sure you dont have a virus?
22:41.50Yssarilwhat is the prefered (most efficient way to transverse over UnitBuff())? just a for loop from 1-40 and break if UnitBuff returns nil?
22:42.10Chaudwhy would I have a virus?
22:42.16dylanm_He's joking, man.
22:42.25Josh_BorkeChaud: like i said, it's obfuscated meaning they ran it through a program which changed it, similar to what chiper was talking about
22:42.38Chaud=(
22:42.43chiperchaud: I mean a program hiding as a lua file
22:42.45XinhuanYssaril, a while loop ;p
22:43.01dylanm_At some point there had to be readable code.
22:43.08dylanm_To open up the rest.
22:43.11Chaudso what does the game do with it
22:43.24Josh_Borkechaud: the game compiles and runs it
22:43.27dylanm_Are you willing to look over the whole thing?
22:43.45chiperyeah, the cant obfuscate the runtime keywords
22:43.50Chaudthe only thing in it that looks readable at a glance is )#*\n't={} s,u,x=strbyte,strchar,bit.bxor for n=1,(#z-1)/8 do local a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i=s(z,n*8-7,n*8+1)t[n]=u(x(a,b),x(b,c),x(c,d),x(d,e),x(e,f),x(f,g),x(g,h),x(h,i))end loadstring(table.concat(t))()
22:43.58dylanm_That would do it.
22:44.28CIA-903rabbit * r64278 10CraftyGnome/CraftyGnome.lua: CraftyGnome: Nil-check some API returns before we use them.
22:44.43chiperbit.bxor
22:44.55chiperthey're XORing the contents of the file
22:45.22dylanm_I think if you look a look at what they're feeding to the loadstring you would learn more.
22:45.30zaplso print (t) would print the sourcecode ingame
22:45.37Chaudthis is near the start? s,u,x=strbyte,strchar,bit.bxor for n=1,(#z-1)/8 do local a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i=s(z,n*8-7,n*8+1)t[n]=u(x(a,b),x(b,c),x(c,d),x(d,e),x(e,f),x(f,g),x(g,h),x(h,i))end loadstring(table.concat(t))()z='h*c-i n)v>{:~;i6x\000=\\=O-B,E1Tv|>w9}4z=b,m e:t
22:46.14chiperthat's actually not a bad idea, I could do that in javascript
22:46.29dylanm_That's what people do.
22:47.09chiperBase64 my code, have JS load the code into a string, decrypt it, and feed it to exec()
22:47.16chiperwould be a bitch to debug, but it'd work
22:47.17Elsiait's pointless. anyone can decode that by running it and removing the loadstring
22:47.55chipertrue, it wouldn't prevent anyone serious about getting into the code, but it would stop idle browsers
22:47.58Zeksiewhy won't <include work... ><
22:48.07Chaudidle browsers like me =(
22:48.16KaeltenZeksie: including another xml file?
22:48.39vhaarrWasn't the old RDX code obfuscated at some point?
22:48.39Elsiait takes you literally a 10 second edit and a lua file.lua to decode this. Not a lot of work
22:48.46Zeksieno... the answer is: Locals != Locales
22:49.11Chaudthere are a bunch of lines with loadstring in them
22:49.19chiperultimately thats why we didnt bother with obfuscation on that project, we decided that the security wasn't worth the added debug effort and increased load time
22:49.21Zeksieyeah. trying to get this thing working un-packaged, so it needs to include sub-xml files in the modules.xml
22:49.24KaeltenElsia, the way thottbot used to do their files (still does?) is better imho
22:49.42CIA-903funkydude * r64279 10/trunk/ (14 files in 14 dirs):
22:49.42CIA-9.trunk: StatBlocks & modules:
22:49.42CIA-9- Add global backdrop alpha slider, locking no longer causes an alpha of 0 (transparency)
22:49.42CIA-9- Tweak modules in preparation of x, y positioning
22:49.42CIA-9- If you get an error in a block after this, reset it
22:50.00Kaeltenall that was was basically a bunch of seds and stripping of the whitespace though
22:50.09dylanm_Zeksie: Pastey?
22:50.17Funkeh`sb, that should be your problem solved
22:50.32Chaudoh well, this is why I don't code =p
22:50.35Elsiaproblem is that any method that contains it own decoding be necessity is kind of impossible to make hard
22:50.46Zeksiegot other issues atm... for some reason i'd setup each module with it's own public variable instead of acquiring a namespace.. so i'm fixing that atm
22:50.52Nandinigrr the minimap mask does not mask minimap blips, only the composited minimap texture itself
22:50.59NivFreakhrmm
22:51.09NivFreakso much conflicting information about leo around
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22:52.34vhaarrNivFreak: the single best tip for Leo is: have ALL your shamans put down a searing totem
22:52.43vhaarrand you'll win
22:52.53NivFreakhaha
22:53.12NivFreakso that he aggros the totems? :P
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22:53.16vhaarryes
22:53.24vhaarrgive your tanks more time to pick him up
22:53.33Elsiaand tell DPS to stop nuking at transitions :P
22:53.48NivFreakit looks like a lot of people are using warriors/druids/paladins to tank him through his second phase
22:53.51NivFreakeven without resist gear
22:53.56vhaarrjust say "stop dps" every time he reaches the end of WW and right before switch to demon form
22:53.58vhaarron vent/ts
22:54.00NivFreakso I'm trying to figure out if this is guilds that just out gear him
22:54.01NivFreakor what
22:54.19vhaarras long as your melee tank stands at max range, and melee dps stands behind at max range
22:54.21NivFreakI'm primarily concerned with how we'll tank the demon form
22:54.23vhaarrthey won't get hit by it
22:54.32liquiemthat carbonite map thingie is nice in their video
22:54.39NivFreakbut I see some hits in WWS at ~15K
22:54.44NivFreakthat seems pretty risky
22:54.55vhaarrI'd say use a warrior tank on him, not druid/pally
22:54.57vhaarrin demon form
22:55.00Diaohm
22:55.01NivFreakwith FR or without?
22:55.05Diaodoes anyone use gridmanabars
22:55.06vhaarrsince warriors have -16% spell damage specced
22:55.10NivFreakWe were planning to have a lock do it
22:55.10CIA-903apoco * r64280 10aX_RaidStatus/ (. embeds.xml):
22:55.10CIA-9aX_RaidStatus:
22:55.10CIA-9- Fix: Added Dewdrop-2.0 to embeds.xml
22:55.11Diaoit seems to be eating a ton of mem
22:55.12NivFreakin 250FR
22:55.22vhaarrwe used a warlock as well, but remember that he must be SL build
22:55.24vhaarror else there's no point
22:55.28vhaarrjust use a warrior then
22:55.34NivFreakwell that's the problem
22:55.42NivFreakI'm having a hard time getting him to go SL
22:55.45NivFreakhe wants to stay destro
22:55.45sbwhy?
22:55.52sbget SR, searing pain spam
22:55.55sbno problem at all
22:55.59sbno need to be SL :)
22:56.10NivFreakit looks like EJ uses a druid
22:56.11sband i think its easier with ranged tank
22:56.17NivFreakfrom this parse
22:56.23NivFreaksome people seem to use a single tank for both phases
22:56.24vhaarrdruid makes no sense at all
22:56.39NivFreakvhaarr: maybe HP pool?
22:56.42NivFreaknot sure why
22:56.49vhaarra prot warrior takes 16% less damage from spells, druids don't
22:56.56Zeksiedoesn't help that i keep forgetting to copy the modules to main folder when i change them...
22:57.04YssarilXinhuan:  how about http://yssaril.pastey.net/83650?
22:57.10vhaarruse a druid/pally in human phase yeah
22:57.18NivFreakand then warrior for demon?
22:57.21vhaarrbut I always ended up with aggro there as well
22:57.24ChaudThey are tricky, somewhere in that code it checks your realm / character before it lets you accept the ToS and generates the stuff in SavedVariables
22:57.26CIA-903kemayo 07Ace3 * r64281 10BetterQuest/modules/ (modules.xml spam.lua): BetterQuest: New module "Spam", prints quest messages in party chat. (So *very* disabled by default.)
22:57.29vhaarrmy shield slams always got him
22:57.44DashkalNeth claims the PTR is back
22:57.45NivFreakso why not use a single tank for both phases?
22:57.54NivFreakif you can have a warrior do demon phase
22:58.15vhaarrI did both, but I used some FR
22:58.26vhaarrwe just used a warlock the first few times
22:58.33vhaarreasier for the melee
22:58.42NivFreakhow much FR?
22:58.47NivFreakjust the blue crafted stuff?
22:58.50vhaarrthe badge set
22:58.54NivFreakah
22:58.57NivFreakI don't have the badge set sadly
22:59.00NivFreaknever had a reason
22:59.26vhaarrit's nice in MH for tanking infernals as well
22:59.40keissNivFreak: we used a warlock without SL for it
22:59.45NivFreakkeiss: destro?
22:59.59keissNivFreak: yes
23:00.08sag_ich_nichtugh
23:00.18NivFreakkeiss: nether protection didn't cause problems?
23:00.29sag_ich_nichtwe wiped on winterchill with 23 people because our MT is a orientationless moron D:
23:00.34sag_ich_nicht4% >_<
23:00.46Matrix110what can a MT do wrong @Winterchill?
23:01.06sag_ich_nicht"pull him to jaina"
23:01.09keissNivFreak: not that i know of
23:01.17sag_ich_nicht-->MT runs to the archers instead of jaina
23:01.39Matrix110there is no use in pulling him to jaina as she eventually aggros within the first 30sec anyway
23:01.49sag_ich_nichtMatrix110: that was when he was at 20%
23:02.02CIA-903funkydude * r64282 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: bugfix
23:02.03Matrix110ok where are you tanking him? :D
23:02.08sag_ich_nichton the hill
23:02.15sag_ich_nichttrust me
23:02.23sag_ich_nichthe has NO sense of orientation
23:02.24Matrix110we tank him near the siege weapon thingy and jaina always aggros there
23:02.25sag_ich_nichtWHATSOEVER
23:02.50sag_ich_nichtshe didn't aggro until everyone was dead and that was at 4%
23:02.50sag_ich_nichtso
23:02.59sag_ich_nichtif he would have pulled him to her 20 seconds earlier
23:03.04sag_ich_nichthe would be dead easily
23:03.09sag_ich_nichtnow we quit
23:03.10sag_ich_nichtD:
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23:05.14keisstheres something wrong if your raid dies even thou she didnt aggro :)
23:06.43Finvhaarr: the link to the BugSack changelog from the WoWi page is broken btw
23:06.53sag_ich_nichtkeiss: well no shit it was the first time we ever went in and nobody was concentrated anymore, only 23 people and half of them without a medalion or even an insignia
23:06.54sag_ich_nicht:P
23:07.05chiperoh man, bornakk's replies on here are just classic.  http://www.wowblues.com/us/please-take-wow-back-to-medieval-fantasy-5103879870.html
23:07.08keissah ok :)
23:07.49FinSeerah: thanks for the ReagentRestocker pointer a while back - been using it recently and it rules, exactly what I wanted (although because of the extra features it's made me want MORE features! any idea how responsive the author is to feature requests?:)
23:07.53PolarinaCool, I can enter the US PTRs.
23:08.18vhaarrFin: thank you
23:08.48Finmy pleasure
23:12.12ArcaiaWoW-0.4.0.8031-to-0.4.0.8049-enUS-patch.exe anyone have that hosted?
23:12.23Arcaiacant get it via the updater on my campus network
23:14.13EvilJohn__http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
23:14.32EvilJohn__handy page.
23:14.54dylanm_Oh they put PTR stuff on there!
23:14.56dylanm_That is handy
23:15.14Arcaiaisnt updated
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23:15.54dylanm_What?
23:16.00dylanm_Oh it has Mac only.
23:16.02dylanm_Awesome.
23:16.08dylanm_Go buy a real computer.
23:16.12dylanm_(I kid.)
23:18.18p3limanyone here with html experience?
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23:18.35chiperhmm, that 2.0 -> TBC downloader.  is that the same as what's on the BC dvd?
23:18.43chiperp3lim: likely
23:18.49kergothKemayo: /bqt, select a font, it changes. select a different font, it doesnt change it anymore
23:18.53Arcaiap3lim: Sup?
23:18.57kergothKemayo: speaking of which, you should change it to /bq :P
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23:19.04ArcaiaI can answer any questions you might have?
23:19.09ArcaiaMessage me if its long though
23:19.15Arcaiano need to clog up the channel
23:19.41chiperp3lim: what part of my statement even remotely made you think I wanted you to message me privately about your problem?
23:19.47CIA-903xinhuan * r64283 10BankItemsFu/ (BankItemsFu.lua BankItemsFu.toc): BankItemsFu: - Update to include an option to open the BankItems GuildBank from Drudatz.
23:19.48CIA-903kemayo 07Ace3 * r64284 10BetterQuest/config.lua: BetterQuest: /bqt -> /bq.
23:20.04Kemayokergoth: Honestly, I'm surprised it even worked at all.  :P
23:20.25durcyn[Ammo]: ping
23:20.49p3limchiper: for the reason Arcaia just stated above, i looked for someone, you replied
23:20.54Kemayokergoth: I'll be at a computer with WoW available in, like, 20 minutes and then I'll be able to see what all my changes have wrought.
23:20.58Arcaiai said message me ;P
23:21.05kergothhehe
23:21.09kergothno worires, just wanted to make sure you knew
23:21.09Xinhuanhehe
23:21.15chiperI didnt realize that "likely" translated to "yes, I can help you, please /msg me your issue"
23:22.07p3limi have never met anyone replied that politely in an open public channel on irc before, mostly people respond like you first did
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23:23.27Zeksieso. change modules to not have their own AceDB thing, and then found out that IsActive is tied to db. tried changing to IsModuleActive. but it's not seeing it. even tho the module prototype inherits from module core... ><
23:23.56vhaarrmodules are not automatically disabled when the core is
23:24.07vhaarror enabled when the core is
23:24.12vhaarrtheir state is completely separate
23:24.16Zeksieno. not what i need. the modules were enable/disableable on their own before
23:24.19Zeksiewhich is what i wanted
23:24.33vhaarrthen they need to mixin acedb
23:25.08Zeksiei they had that before.. but then they have to have their own public db. and they won't work un-packaged, cos the saved var is not seen in their toc file.
23:25.10keissScheduleEvent() is gone in Ace3 ?
23:25.21vhaarrkeiss: AceTimer
23:25.22Zeksiewhich is why i moved to a namespace, and removed the acedb refence
23:25.41Zeksieother mods seem to use namespaces as the standard for this scenario
23:25.43vhaarrZeksie: so you need to add a toggle for it manually then
23:26.03kergothKemayo: more info, selecting a font changes the font, but all the fonts listed change it to the same one
23:26.05kergothKemayo: :)
23:26.08kergothKemayo: simple fix i'm sure
23:26.24Zeksieyeah. that's assumed. that's not the problem. the problem is the mixins for the main module specify module core, but the modules are not getting the IsModuleActive method
23:26.36vhaarrthey're not supposed to
23:26.38vhaarrthe core has it
23:26.49keissvhaarr: thx, nothing about it in docs/ so ill assume theres no documentation
23:26.51Zeksieyes... of course.. i'm stupid!
23:27.18CIA-903funkydude * r64285 10/trunk/ (7 files in 7 dirs): .trunk: StatBlocks: Modules: Add various x, y goodness, I've left the rest up to their respective authors
23:27.50kergothKemayo: question about the interaction of 'enabled' with the +/- button.. a disabled tracker still has its header visible.. collapsing everythingd oesnt seem to uncheck disabled, but disabling it and expanding the tracker does seem to make it enabled.  confusing
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23:28.20Kemayokergoth: Hm, a disabled tracker should be hiding its header -- that's an oversight.
23:28.32kergothk :)
23:29.41CIA-903kemayo 07Ace3 * r64286 10BetterQuest/core.lua: BetterQuest: Headers should be hidden when their trackers are disabled.
23:29.48Zeksieanother small thing. the module sub-menus in dewdrop are getting Donate and About options, which is uncessary. is there a flag I'm missing to hide those.
23:30.17dylanm_People use DewDrop still
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23:30.34vhaarrZeksie: you're mixing in AceAddon with the modules
23:30.37vhaarrstop that
23:30.53Zeksiei'm not..
23:31.04Zeksieconsole, event, hook
23:31.12vhaarrwhy console?
23:31.12kergothKemayo: little thing, when a tracker doesnt have any quests currently, might want to just hide the tracker frame, it looks kinda silly having hte header, then an empty box with a border underneith it :)
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23:31.23kergothKemayo: so maybe just show the header? /shrug
23:31.29Zeksieso that self:Print indicates which module the info comes from
23:31.33PrimerOk, so I have ground speed working
23:31.41Funkeh`Zeksie, ... make your own
23:31.46Primerit'd be interesting to add potential ground speed too
23:31.53Zeksie><
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23:31.59vhaarrZeksie: addon.modulePrototype:Print(...) addon:Print(self, ...) end
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23:32.15Primerbut I guess the only way to obtain that would be through seeing all the equipped items plus buffs
23:32.27Zeksieyea vhaarr, but then all info would come from base mod name, which i didn't want.. i'll make my own.
23:32.29vhaarrwith a "function" first, obviousl
23:32.30vhaarry
23:32.35vhaarrno?
23:32.37vhaarrread it again
23:32.46vhaarrfunction addon.modulePrototype:Print(...) addon:Print(self, ...) end
23:32.51vhaarrnote the |self|
23:32.57vhaarrwhich will print self:ToString()
23:33.01vhaarri.e. the module name
23:33.02Zeksieoh ye. :)
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23:35.05kergothKemayo: another question, does libquixote-2.0 receive quest info from quixote 1 users?
23:35.15Finhaste: is there an easy way to set an offset for the loot frame in Butsu?
23:35.46kergothKemayo: and another one, can you disable the quick quest info on click, or have a modifier-click to open the full quest log for the quest? otherwise one cant quickly and easily check the lightheaded data
23:36.35Kemayokergoth: re:quixote, not yet, no.  It's on my to-do list.
23:36.45kergothokay, cool
23:37.24Kemayokergoth: And let me go see if I have any unused modifiers left...
23:37.30kergothhehe
23:37.40kergothshould show a help tooltip of what clicks do what, if its getting that busy
23:37.41KemayoRight-click, maybe?
23:38.20Finhaste: aha, think I've found it (in the if block starting "if(LOOT_UNDER_MOUSE..." I hope)
23:38.28Funkeh`new email from itunes with the subject new pronographers
23:38.34Funkeh`pornographers
23:38.43Funkeh`some fucking canadian band
23:39.22Kemayokergoth: I seem to currently be using click, alt-click, shift-click, control-click, and shift-control click.
23:40.05kergothsheesh, yeah, help is in order :)
23:40.13Kemayo...you may have a point.
23:40.56chiperFunkeh`: actually, "New" is in the name of the bad
23:40.58kergothon another note, whats the outfit addon of choice nowadays?  i hear itemrack is pretty much unmaintained.. closetgnome still the way to go?
23:41.06chiper"New Pornographers" is the full name
23:42.02FinClosetGnome rules
23:42.13vhaarrclosetgnome is maintained at least, I still use it personally
23:42.22Finplus it rules
23:42.26Nandinii still prefer outfitter just for its familiarity
23:42.43vhaarrbut I'll remove any frameworks from the core of it soon
23:42.49SnagoClosetGnome is made of win and awesome
23:42.52chiperI like CG, but I'll be happier when Blizz impliments their own method and I can get my gear out of my bags
23:42.53Finthere are a few little issues though, but nothing you can't live with
23:42.55vhaarrsoon (tm)
23:43.26Finvhaarr: what frameworks are in its core currently?
23:43.41vhaarrace2
23:43.41Nandinii think "their own method" is just a large bag that only soulbound equipment can go into
23:44.09chiperclosetgnome likes to get confused tho, starts telling me it cant find gear that I have
23:44.11Nandiniwhich they have already partially implemented, but there are no bags that use that type yet
23:44.15Finvhaarr: by remove, do you mean, just get rid of it, or..?
23:44.28vhaarrI'm not sure how to answer that question
23:44.34FinI will rephrase
23:44.55chipernandini: the way it was described in the note I read was that there will be multiple paperdoll tabs
23:45.08chiperdont remember if that was an interview or a blue post
23:45.13FinI don't understand what you mean by remove - do you mean you will remove the dependency on Ace2 (and it will still be working)?
23:45.19vhaarryes
23:45.31FinOK, jolly good :) nothing to worry about for us then :)
23:46.06Nandinifor switching gear sets, yes, but for actually carrying it all, you will still have to keep it in your bags i think
23:46.54kergothKemayo: weird thing.. lets say you have a TON of quests, everything expanded, gigantic full tracker..  collapse the tracker so all you see is the header, then drag it around, it wont go below the point on the screen where the tracker itself will hit the edge of the screen, so it looks like the header is hitting an invisible wall :)
23:47.04kergothKemayo: not sure how best to handle that, but its definately weird and confusing at first :P
23:47.54Nandinimaybe hide the collapsed area by setting its height to zero and not hiding it?
23:48.10Xinhuanu can't set a frame's height to 0
23:48.14Xinhuan1 is the minimum
23:48.25Nandinihmm set it to 1 and alpha to zero then :)
23:49.15Nandinithat could make for some odd tooltips if you mouse over that 1 pixel tho
23:49.19kergothwhatll happen if you move the frame to the bottom and then exapnd it? the header will jump up?  if you then re-collapse, will the header go back to its old location near the bottom?
23:52.02zaplwhat would that code actually do usefull but randomizing? http://pastebin.com/m59e4f57c
23:54.47chiper*blink*  that's some weird code
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23:55.16sag_ich_nichtbtw.
23:55.23sag_ich_nichtrate our tactic: we kite vashj with a SP
23:55.29vhaarrzapl: it does nothing
23:55.55zaplthats what it looks like :)
23:56.09vhaarrit sets cvars to their current values if conditions are met
23:56.36Josh_Borkesag_ich_nicht: very nice
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23:57.06kergothhmm, wonder if anyone's done a baggins module for food your current pet will eat and like
23:57.55vhaarrzapl: so it does something that I can't spot?
23:58.00vhaarror what are you smiling about
23:58.58kergothsheesh, outfitter is 800k.. must be that fancy ui
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23:59.49zapllets see what it does if i replace loadsting with defaultchatframe:addmessage :D

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