00:01.08 | Zeksie | anyone able to help me out with some SVN access? Put in request some 10 days ago now. :( |
00:01.49 | NeoTron | p3lim: yes |
00:01.57 | NeoTron | it's not quite the same now but similar |
00:02.05 | Chaud | I ate your request. |
00:02.16 | p3lim | nice |
00:02.28 | Xinhuan | converting to svn too Zeksie? ;p |
00:02.34 | p3lim | does it like take over wasd controls? |
00:02.45 | Zeksie | yeah... can't fight the crowd forever ;) |
00:03.13 | Xinhuan | slightly surprised you haven't done it earlie |
00:03.15 | Xinhuan | +r |
00:03.16 | Zeksie | got a neato buff mod for the masses, and new version of grim reaper that's standalone for 2.4. |
00:03.26 | Zeksie | might even drop X-Perl on there... not decided |
00:04.07 | Chaud | people will <3 the standalone grim reaper |
00:04.12 | Zeksie | yeah. initially i wasn't aware you could restrict access to portions of it. hadn't looked too deeply into it. but i know better now |
00:04.12 | Chaud | I see requests for that all the time =\ |
00:04.40 | Xinhuan | grim reaper is merely a by-product of listening for UNIT_HEALTH |
00:04.43 | Zeksie | yeah chaud, u can mousewheel scrollback as far as combat log goes, and it'll show actual combat log lines on mouseover, and you can drop it into combat log... all the goodies |
00:04.54 | Zeksie | see above |
00:05.02 | Zeksie | yes. old one was simple, but handy |
00:05.14 | Chaud | I guess, never used it =\ |
00:05.23 | Chaud | Just see people request it often |
00:05.32 | NeoTron | you click in the game and it grabs the keyboard |
00:05.35 | Zeksie | yeah. main reason for removing it from x-perl |
00:06.04 | Xinhuan | i have my own little unreleased tool for combat log deaths ;p |
00:06.08 | Zeksie | :) |
00:06.17 | Xinhuan | it'll break on 2.4 anyway |
00:06.42 | Zeksie | paladins will love the buff mod tho. got auto generated buff assignments, with definable sub-classes for those awkward ppl in raids. |
00:07.15 | Zeksie | our guild palas never had it so easy. 99% of time, 1 click and it's all setup |
00:08.54 | FtH|Daemona | sounds like a pallypower killer |
00:08.56 | FtH|Daemona | :) |
00:09.01 | vhaarr | Zeksie: Excuse me, I joined late, what mod is this? |
00:09.15 | Xinhuan | its a sub module of xperl, vhaarr |
00:09.17 | vhaarr | ah, it's not released yet? |
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00:09.18 | FtH|Daemona | a "buffmod" that sets up itself |
00:09.24 | vhaarr | okay |
00:09.27 | vhaarr | that sucks |
00:09.32 | Zeksie | ZOMGBuffs.. will be released as soon as i get svn access |
00:09.38 | FtH|Daemona | vhaarr ;) |
00:09.39 | vhaarr | maybe I'll write a standalone one instead |
00:09.43 | Zeksie | has modules for paladins, group buffs, self buffs etc. |
00:09.55 | Zeksie | and yeah, it'll talk to pally power ppl too |
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00:10.02 | vhaarr | why in the name of hell would you make that a module for xperl? |
00:10.07 | Zeksie | it's not.. |
00:10.09 | vhaarr | I can't possibly imagine what that "framework" would give you |
00:10.11 | Zeksie | it's it's own mod |
00:10.12 | vhaarr | that's what Xinhuan said |
00:10.16 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: stop lying! |
00:10.17 | Zeksie | he was wrong? |
00:10.17 | Xinhuan | i thought you meant grim reaper |
00:10.18 | Cryect | Xinhuan is pulling your chain |
00:10.24 | Xinhuan | not the buff one |
00:10.29 | vhaarr | right |
00:10.36 | Zeksie | buff one is ace2, fresh mod |
00:10.39 | vhaarr | then I retract my "that sucks" comment |
00:10.42 | vhaarr | ^^ |
00:10.50 | Zeksie | new grim is too |
00:11.11 | Zeksie | although there's not a lot of ace in grim, mostly just the options |
00:12.33 | Xinhuan | Antiarc |
00:13.48 | Zeksie | the old xperl "framework" as you say, won't change a lot cos i really can't be assed to re-do the thing.. it's a monster and i'm too old! |
00:14.13 | vhaarr | I was just really confused why someone would want to make a buff mod as a module for a unit frame addon |
00:14.17 | vhaarr | nothing else |
00:14.28 | Zeksie | yeah.. why would you do that. |
00:14.31 | Xinhuan | do it bit by bit, and use ace3 ;) |
00:14.57 | Zeksie | that's the snag tho.. if i redid it.. i'd be compelled to just start over and do it 'right'. |
00:15.04 | Zeksie | and i just don't have hte time for htat |
00:15.18 | FtH|Daemona | btw. anyone seen elsia this weekend or if the recount leak towards ace was closed? |
00:15.42 | Xinhuan | actually it doesn't take that long |
00:15.51 | Zeksie | Xin, they giving you any more input into combat log? or is that out of your hands now? |
00:16.08 | Xinhuan | antiarc was supposed to do that part and send me an email but he never did |
00:16.20 | Zeksie | ahhah. |
00:17.31 | Zeksie | mostly little things really, like getting the float part of timestamps added, delocalising things (which you know), erm... the unit token stuff put in bla bla |
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00:18.05 | Zeksie | had my own version which did all that, but can't use it atm :| |
00:18.34 | Xinhuan | i'm not even sure if they intended to use the unit token thing |
00:19.18 | Zeksie | oh.. i thought it was handy.. more for raiders. but still handy |
00:21.26 | Zeksie | anyway. it's late here. afk till morning.. nite |
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00:34.15 | CIA-9 | Decursive: |
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01:07.55 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
01:07.55 | CIA-9 | -Cursor changes on edges of windows now to let you know you can resize here and how you can resize |
01:28.40 | chiper | is wowhead dead? it's been offline for most of this week |
01:29.25 | selckin | been working perfect all week |
01:29.30 | Chaud | working fine here |
01:29.37 | Chaud | used it all week |
01:30.43 | ulic | yep me too |
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01:36.02 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
01:36.02 | CIA-9 | -Arnod netherstorm -> SMV |
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01:41.04 | FtH|Daemona | chiper tried a "ping wowhead.com" or "tracert wowhead.com" from the command prompt yet? |
01:42.37 | chiper | oh I can connect |
01:42.50 | chiper | but it's been showing the offline page for several days |
01:42.59 | Chaud | "offline page"? |
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01:44.55 | chiper | hmm, now it's working |
01:44.56 | chiper | odd |
01:49.11 | RaydenUni | oh man |
01:49.22 | RaydenUni | guild is trying to do the first two ZA bosses timed without me :( |
01:49.33 | RaydenUni | do them for the first time i should say |
01:50.40 | Cryect | They hate you! |
01:51.42 | decaprime | I can't seem to check if a table is empty or not, i've tried table.getn(t) and #t >0 and that doesn't seem to work |
01:52.24 | Cryect | getn won't work |
01:52.33 | Cryect | since thats depreciated |
01:52.56 | Cryect | and #t will only work if it has entries in counting order from 1..n |
01:53.12 | decaprime | oh |
01:53.13 | decaprime | well |
01:53.24 | decaprime | how would one determine if a dictionary is empty |
01:53.47 | WobWork | for i,v in pairs(t) |
01:53.51 | decaprime | =( |
01:53.59 | decaprime | I knew you were going to say that |
01:53.59 | Cryect | yeah Lua is kinda sucky in that regards |
01:54.04 | decaprime | damn |
01:54.21 | Cryect | I wish they would look at python and learn some stuff and then apply some of that stuff in Lua |
01:54.41 | decaprime | maybe I should have asked this before I spent the last hour writing one- but is there a variable watch/debug output |
01:54.44 | Cryect | I like that Lua is really readable but its kinda lacking in the working with dictionaries |
01:54.50 | Cryect | no |
01:54.55 | Cryect | those debug commands are disabled |
01:55.07 | decaprime | IE like you can say- look at these variables/tables, then as they change you can see their values |
01:55.10 | Cryect | well I assume you are talking in reference I should say to wow |
01:55.11 | WobWork | Cryect: everything but the indenting =P |
01:55.13 | decaprime | yes |
01:55.39 | Cryect | If you create a good metatable type addon that does that upload it ^_^ |
01:55.39 | decaprime | output into chat frame or gui- mines just a little chatframe with |cffabusethehelloutame all over the place |
01:55.42 | WobWork | hm, I wonder what the interest would be in that sort of addon |
01:55.54 | Arrowmaster | decaprime: next(t) |
01:56.12 | decaprime | I've been looking into meta tables and i've considered writing one after i'm done with this loot system addon |
01:56.24 | decaprime | but this is just hacked together for my own benefit |
01:56.29 | decaprime | oh... arrow- let me see |
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01:57.13 | Arrowmaster | lua> next({}) |
01:57.14 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil |
01:57.23 | Arrowmaster | lua> next({[true]=true}) |
01:57.23 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true, true |
01:57.39 | decaprime | works like a charm |
01:57.50 | decaprime | I just have if(next(v)) then |
01:57.56 | Cryect | next({[nil]=nil}) |
01:57.59 | Cryect | lua> next({[nil]=nil}) |
01:57.59 | lua_bot | Cryect: luabot:1: table index is nil |
01:58.00 | Cryect | :-p |
01:58.06 | Arrowmaster | lol |
01:58.13 | decaprime | rofl |
01:58.21 | Arrowmaster | way to break it |
01:58.38 | Cryect | Wasn't sure if that would actually break it since I set it to nil as well |
01:58.39 | Arrowmaster | lua> next({[true]=nil}) |
01:58.40 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil |
01:58.42 | Cryect | which means it shouldn'tbe in there |
01:58.59 | decaprime | i'm fairly surprised at how much progress i've made in about 2 days at this addon |
01:59.36 | decaprime | I went back and forth between ace or non-ace but after I went through the welcomehome tutorial i've just been able to keep building it =) |
01:59.40 | Arrowmaster | if your table has a metatable then you probably wont be able to use next() |
01:59.55 | decaprime | No, that table was a table in a table in a metatable =) |
02:01.38 | decaprime | I'm going to need to clean this thing up and do localization, but i've also thought to use a string table and then use those strings as the keys for the localization =/ |
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02:02.00 | decaprime | right now its all ... "rules and stuff here blahbalbhalbhablh" filler text =) |
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02:07.40 | p3lim | chiper: clean your temp files etc |
02:18.55 | zapl | pixelmania: 64x64 randomly changing at >=0.2s http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5742/wowscrnshot031008031600he6.jpg |
02:19.22 | Chaud | but what is it good for =\ |
02:19.34 | zapl | nothing :D |
02:19.44 | Chaud | why are you only getting 13 FPS =\ |
02:20.34 | zapl | onupdate setting 4096 vertexcolors |
02:21.05 | Chaud | oh yeah, the whole pixel thing... |
02:22.17 | zapl | i will think of something usefull later :) the demoscene does such useless stuff all the time ;) |
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02:22.48 | Yssaril | zapl add some colors |
02:23.00 | Megalon | zapl: game of life |
02:23.10 | Xinhuan | heh |
02:23.21 | Yssaril | bw is kinda boring |
02:23.30 | zapl | try to make plasmaflames for now |
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02:30.34 | CIA-9 | Proximo2: |
02:30.34 | CIA-9 | - Fixed texture typos |
02:30.34 | CIA-9 | - Lots of minor code tweaks, mainly around profile access |
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02:57.14 | zapl | not perfect but looks nice http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7228/wowscrnshot031008035604nh4.jpg |
02:59.39 | vhaarr | so lua is the new asm, eh? I wonder if there'll be a separate category for "Ace" demos |
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03:04.30 | ckknight | zapl: I wish Blizz would let us draw on textures |
03:04.33 | ckknight | :-P |
03:05.02 | zapl | hrhr, that would have been the easy way |
03:05.05 | ckknight | but that's complex to do and out of the scope Blizz wants, likely |
03:05.27 | Chaud | need integrated web browser and IM/IRC client. =( |
03:05.32 | vhaarr | ckknight: have you seen these new AceEvent errors that have appeared? |
03:05.34 | vhaarr | examples: |
03:05.35 | vhaarr | [2008/03/09 23:35:11-1855-x1]: KC_Items-1.0.38138\modules\KC_Fence\Fence_AutoFill.lua:171: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot trigger event "AceEvent_EventRegistered". "run"'s handler, "true", is not a method or function (boolean).<in C code>: ?AceEvent-2.0-63812 (AtlasLoot):302: in function `TriggerEvent'AceEvent-2.0-63812 (AtlasLoot):917: in function <...\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:910> |
03:05.45 | vhaarr | [2008/03/09 15:25:27-1855-x1]: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot trigger event "UNIT_AURA". "run"'s handler, "true", is not a method or function (boolean).:<in C code>: in function `error'AtlasLoot-AtlasLoot Enhanced v4.03.01\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:122: in function `error'AceEvent-2.0-63812 (AtlasLoot):305: in function `TriggerEvent'AceEvent-2.0-63812 (AtlasLoot):917: in function <...\AddOns\AtlasLoot\Libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:910> |
03:06.03 | vhaarr | it seems to be associated with seemingly random events |
03:06.20 | vhaarr | can't find a way to reproduce it either |
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03:07.32 | vhaarr | :RegisterEvent asserts that it is given a function or string |
03:07.38 | vhaarr | so how a boolean handler appeared there, I have no idea |
03:08.18 | ckknight | gnomes. |
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03:10.31 | Nandini | i've had it come up with any number of different addons |
03:10.39 | Nandini | seemingly randomly |
03:11.11 | ckknight | clearly, a gnome was in the vacinity |
03:11.17 | ckknight | in all honesty, though, I have no idea why that'd happen |
03:20.03 | MentalPower | zapl: whats that for? |
03:21.19 | zapl | more or less just for fun. but could be a way to kind of draw dynamic / animated textures |
03:21.28 | Cryect | ckknight, I would settle for nonaxis aligned frames :-p |
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03:30.49 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-3.0 : |
03:30.49 | CIA-9 | - zhCN typo fix |
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03:35.15 | ckknight | Cryect: how do you mean? |
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03:44.43 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Inventory-3.0 : |
03:44.43 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
03:46.16 | zapl | source: http://ace.pastey.net/83577 screen:http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8329/wowscrnshot031008044344rv0.jpg need some sleep now :( go play around with it and make cool demos :D |
03:49.58 | Kheper | does anyone here use Pitbull |
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03:50.30 | ckknight | Kheper: yea? |
03:50.56 | Kheper | how can i update it to the next version without resetting all of my settings? |
03:51.03 | ckknight | it should update fine |
03:51.12 | ckknight | I don't think I did anything that'd make you lose your settings |
03:51.23 | Kheper | oh u make pitbull? |
03:51.27 | Kheper | made* |
03:51.44 | ckknight | yea |
03:52.15 | Kheper | in that case, how does the MT unitframe work? does pitbull have it incorporated |
03:52.40 | ckknight | well, if you don't have oRA or CTRA, then it will use Blizzard's Main tank designations |
03:52.40 | RaydenUni | so druids don't get benefits of "on equip" for their weapons? |
03:52.44 | Kheper | and can u send me a link to your latest update for Pitbull and Fullbar? |
03:53.07 | ckknight | if one of those two addons are detected, it will use the main tanks designated by those addons |
03:53.10 | RaydenUni | or is it only "on hit?" |
03:53.13 | ckknight | Kheper: it's on files.wowace.com |
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03:54.22 | Kheper | does Pitbull work better with oRA or CTRA or does it not make a difference |
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03:55.41 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64098 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.toc: MagicMarker: X-Embeds fix |
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03:58.11 | ckknight | Kheper: no difference |
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04:01.17 | Orionshock | morning all |
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04:11.45 | Kheper | wuts the castbar icon that shows the adjustment for latency? |
04:11.59 | Kheper | addon i mean |
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04:17.08 | vithos | Quartz is a popular one, Kheper |
04:17.55 | Kheper | kool thanx |
04:18.16 | vithos | Proximo2 is showing stuff like "Warlock (Protection)" "Mage (Restoration)" etc :( |
04:18.35 | vithos | i guess that's better than just showing the wrong numbers though |
04:21.08 | Kheper | anyone got an opinion on the best cooldown and dot timers? |
04:22.08 | Kheper | i've been using the Ash ones so far |
04:22.37 | Cryect | RaydenUni: its only on hit that druids don't get advantage of |
04:22.54 | RaydenUni | ok |
04:23.01 | RaydenUni | thanks for the delayed response |
04:23.05 | Cryect | because druids would be so "overpowered" if they had that |
04:23.08 | RaydenUni | Kheper i like classtimer |
04:23.19 | RaydenUni | for cooldowns i use Hourglass |
04:24.27 | Nandini | Cryect: at least we get weapon dmg from sharpening/weightstones in 2.4 :) |
04:24.44 | Nandini | no more stupid Elemental Sharpening Stones for me! |
04:25.07 | Cryect | hehe |
04:25.32 | Nandini | +12 weapon dmg on our 55dps paws is a huge upgrade i think |
04:26.01 | Cryect | yeah +wpn dmg is huge for druids |
04:26.13 | Cryect | Do we get +dmg from weapon enchants? |
04:26.27 | Nandini | no, i don't believe we do |
04:26.29 | Cryect | I think its the same effect |
04:26.41 | Nandini | i haven't tried on the ptr yet tho |
04:26.54 | Nandini | i can't imagine they'd be better than 35 agi anyways |
04:27.23 | Cryect | Yeah they didn't add any new +dmg ones in TBC did they |
04:27.54 | Nandini | i think all the +dmg enchants are low level ones, yeah |
04:28.45 | Cryect | so +9 is the best and thats equiv to 135 ap which is better than 35 agi |
04:29.04 | Nandini | yeah that's like 1.8x better than 35 agi, wow |
04:29.18 | Nandini | maybe worth testing :) |
04:29.24 | Cryect | yeah |
04:29.42 | Cryect | and besides so much cheaper :-p |
04:29.44 | Nandini | anyone have an enchanter on a US ptr? :) |
04:29.46 | Cryect | 4LBS and 10 Illusion dust |
04:30.39 | Nandini | actually i could do it with any weapon on a level 1 druid, it should show up on the char sheet |
04:31.19 | Nandini | we have to be quiet about this tho or other melee dps will scream "NERF" |
04:31.22 | Cryect | and only need like minor striking |
04:31.23 | kenlyric | Wuss is the best mod ever |
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04:31.35 | CIA-9 | Whats : 0.48 |
04:31.35 | CIA-9 | - fix some bugs, miss typos |
04:31.35 | CIA-9 | - fix incorrect item data |
04:31.55 | Nandini | i personally think we should be able to disease our paws or something |
04:32.15 | Nandini | since there's only one player castable disease in the game, and only by one race of one class |
04:32.25 | Nandini | all those disease dispells are going to waste in pvp! |
04:32.51 | Cryect | There is gift of arthas :-p |
04:32.53 | Nandini | that could be the feral druid MS :) |
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04:33.14 | Nandini | gift of arthas doesn't work in arena tho does it? |
04:33.24 | Cryect | no its a potion |
04:33.36 | Cryect | er elixir apparently now |
04:33.59 | Cryect | I guess that was so people would stop using them :-p |
04:35.22 | Nandini | i think i may choose this as my guardian elixir for tanking instead of useless 550 armor, i never thought about using this before |
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04:36.12 | Diao | rofl |
04:36.13 | Diao | wow |
04:36.16 | Diao | i was MTing kara today |
04:36.20 | Diao | and first on dps >.> |
04:36.24 | Diao | on aran |
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04:38.05 | Kheper | nice |
04:38.23 | Kheper | either you're incredible or your group wasnt that great |
04:41.17 | kenlyric | always vote for #2 in these stories |
04:41.39 | kenlyric | probably the only melee in the room.... |
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04:43.54 | WobWork | who needs an MT in aran? |
04:44.56 | Kheper | RaydenUni: Classtimer works for dots right? |
04:45.23 | RaydenUni | yes |
04:45.26 | RaydenUni | i use it for my shadow priest |
04:46.12 | Kheper | k i got a lock, if it works for u then it works for me |
04:46.40 | Gngsk | classtimer won't shot any bars if you don't have a target/focus |
04:46.49 | Gngsk | which, isn't so good for a warlock |
04:47.26 | Kheper | so it'll only show bars for current target? |
04:48.16 | ZealotOnAStick | I still use DoTimer. |
04:48.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Coding mess and bloated thing that it is . . . I strip it down to Ash_Core and Ash_Dotimer and just use that. |
04:49.00 | ZealotOnAStick | nothing else I've found/tried matches it for functionality and usefulness. |
04:54.35 | RaydenUni | Kheper for player, target, focus |
04:54.42 | RaydenUni | and maybe target's target but i don't use that |
04:55.17 | RaydenUni | <Diao> i was MTing kara today |
04:55.18 | RaydenUni | <Diao> and first on dps >.> |
04:55.18 | RaydenUni | <Diao> on aran |
04:55.22 | Gngsk | focus/player/target/sticky whatever sticky is, it's not supposed to work perfectly |
04:55.22 | RaydenUni | i could see this for a feral druid maybe |
05:02.46 | Kheper | DoTimer hasnt been updated for 2.3 i think |
05:02.52 | Kheper | thats why im looking for something else |
05:03.03 | Kheper | i dont know if it makes much of a difference, but still |
05:03.33 | Gngsk | oooh, I see what sticky is |
05:03.40 | Gngsk | it keeps the timer going if you untarget the mob |
05:04.02 | Gngsk | man, I've been using classtimer for almost a year and never realized that, pretty nub |
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05:21.27 | Diao | my group was pretty good today |
05:21.30 | Diao | not as good as usual |
05:21.33 | Diao | took us 3 hrs to clear :( |
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05:27.02 | Diao | http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/17918 |
05:27.03 | Diao | oh shit! |
05:27.05 | Diao | sc2 zerg trailer |
05:27.08 | Diao | just released in korea |
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05:39.25 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: I fully agree |
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06:22.31 | Olison | :D |
06:23.25 | Snago | The background image at gamevideos.com is made of fail |
06:23.46 | Snago | The video was cool though :) |
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06:27.32 | Elsia | morning |
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06:42.09 | basslingo | morning back at ya (well 11pm still -.- ) |
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06:42.57 | CIA-9 | IHML: |
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06:45.58 | syeren | Hmm, in Windows how do I make it show the extension of the file? |
06:46.13 | syeren | I just have a file named Existence-Light, and I don't know what type of file it is :( |
06:46.21 | syeren | (For MyMedia purposes). |
06:46.26 | basslingo | right click - > properties |
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06:46.31 | Grum | lol |
06:46.32 | basslingo | should tell ya ther |
06:46.34 | basslingo | :P |
06:46.54 | syeren | What extension is a Type 1 Font File? |
06:46.54 | Grum | dont use windows if you are not smart enough! =D |
06:46.55 | syeren | ttf? |
06:47.35 | syeren | ttf is a truetype font infact >_> |
06:48.19 | Grum | in windows: open explorer, tools, folder options, view, halfway in the list: [ ] Hide extentions for known file types, [ ] Hide protected operating system files |
06:49.02 | Grum | and remember, extensions say nothing about the file, it only gives an indication :) |
06:49.18 | Ellipsis | of course even if you uncheck the hide extensions box, windows still hides certain "special" ones |
06:49.47 | syeren | Perfect, it's PFM file. |
06:51.50 | syeren | Thank you for your help Grum, I'm ashamed about the fact that I didn't know such an option existed :( |
06:52.16 | Grum | yes, go into /windows/fonts and it will still hide the shit out of stuff |
06:52.19 | Grum | its pathetic |
06:52.20 | basslingo | syeren: .font :P |
06:52.35 | basslingo | or PFM depending |
06:52.46 | basslingo | oh nvm you got it ^^ |
06:52.48 | Grum | also the inability to make all types of folders from explorer.exe ... kek.... |
06:53.01 | Grum | you can make .svn folders from cmd.exe .. but not from explorer.exe |
06:53.12 | basslingo | yup |
06:53.13 | Grum | its crai |
06:53.17 | basslingo | mkdir ftw |
06:53.39 | syeren | Hmm, the damn file isn't loading :< |
06:53.46 | Ellipsis | Grum: that doesn't count, fonts is a special folder :P |
06:53.52 | Grum | right .. its not |
06:53.59 | Ellipsis | you can't view .cnf extensions on any file anywhere in explorer |
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06:54.14 | Ellipsis | even with extensions shown |
06:54.41 | Ellipsis | lulz |
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07:00.41 | theoddone33 | how long was it before naxx was full-cleared? |
07:00.46 | theoddone33 | like a month, six weeks? |
07:00.58 | theoddone33 | BT took like a week |
07:01.04 | theoddone33 | kind of sad, I wonder why |
07:01.08 | Grum | Sunwell will take longer |
07:01.19 | Grum | but its artificial |
07:01.23 | Grum | and tbh, i am pleased with it |
07:01.50 | Elsia | most of the delay in naxx progress was 4h though |
07:01.55 | theoddone33 | well the number 3 us guild just disbanded because they got bored with the game and decided not to do sunwell |
07:01.58 | Grum | it lessens the load on guilds |
07:02.02 | Elsia | most instances clear rather fast minus buggy bosses or blocks |
07:02.14 | theoddone33 | and they were QQing for the days when pve was a challenge |
07:02.33 | Elsia | minmaxing raiders kill the game for themselves really |
07:02.36 | Grum | sunwell will be a challenge again |
07:03.01 | Elsia | so you raid stack, mass soul stone and then complain that things are too easy when they are tuned for sensible raid setups? doesn't make sense in my book |
07:03.31 | theoddone33 | http://www.risen-guild.com/ mostly a QQ post I guess |
07:03.46 | theoddone33 | I'm kind of wondering if the content is easier or if people have the PVE thing down better with 25 man raids |
07:04.47 | Elsia | well people raid for 3 years now, they minmax raid composition, pots, gear distribution, raid 6+ days a week for 4 hours minumum, at peak times they raid 18hours with minimal greaks |
07:04.49 | Elsia | breaks* |
07:06.00 | Elsia | raiding is harder nowadays, except that the top guilds won't know because they do things that a more normal raid groups simple can't or won't do |
07:06.25 | theoddone33 | risen was pissed that people cheesed a'lar also |
07:06.26 | theoddone33 | heh |
07:06.51 | Sole | 18 hour raids? |
07:06.52 | Sole | wtf |
07:07.20 | Grum | if you are a 'top progression guild' .. yes, how else do you expect to down new bosses in a day? |
07:07.42 | Elsia | well the risen post basically says this: Others got to see the game too, and that sucks. |
07:07.49 | theoddone33 | seemed like with naxx there were a lot of people in the hunt |
07:07.49 | Elsia | it's just spite. |
07:07.59 | theoddone33 | but with BT it was just like nihilum cleared it in 3 days |
07:08.07 | Elsia | it was because of 4H |
07:08.10 | theoddone33 | and then everyone else took a week or two longer |
07:08.12 | Elsia | same with CThun |
07:08.14 | Sole | 4H was a cool encounter |
07:08.20 | theoddone33 | well cthun was bugged or something? |
07:08.22 | Ellipsis | 4H was a big hangup for everyone |
07:08.39 | Elsia | because the top runners were stuck at 4H more guilds got a chance to catch up and it looked like a more even playing field |
07:08.55 | Ellipsis | imo it was really just an artificial wall |
07:09.07 | syeren | Raiding is easier than ever :p |
07:09.10 | Ellipsis | let's make one encounter uber-difficult so only the cool kids get to see KT |
07:09.11 | syeren | Pretty much obvious. |
07:09.14 | Elsia | same with Vashj being hard. In reality it has been Nihilum and D&T for very long with very little real competition. You look at 3-4 guilds with world firsts in a very long time |
07:09.38 | theoddone33 | risen was world first helgian, us first KT I think |
07:09.48 | theoddone33 | so they were around there |
07:09.55 | theoddone33 | but now they just QQ, so eh |
07:10.06 | Sole | Elsia: I think what risen is feeling is theyve put so much effort into getting to where they are. Like they ran a marathon down a 500km winding road only to have blizzard add a shortcut from start to finish |
07:10.10 | Sole | ok, weird analogy |
07:10.17 | theoddone33 | naw that sounds about right |
07:10.26 | syeren | Basically raiding used to mean shit, used to be challenging. |
07:10.31 | Sole | it was |
07:10.40 | syeren | Now it's piss easy, and gets nerfed even more once good guilds do the shit. |
07:10.40 | Grum | in their post i read that blizzard claimed to add epic gems to drop from kara? |
07:10.54 | Sole | 10 epic gems per kara |
07:10.58 | Elsia | i understand what risen feels but it doesn't make sense: basically it's this: Blizz makes a hard game that only very few people can complete, we want other to be frustrated out of their minds to feel special. |
07:11.04 | Elsia | that's what it boils down to really |
07:11.09 | Elsia | they had their hardcore experience, |
07:11.13 | Grum | Sole: is that real? |
07:11.22 | Sole | Grum: I dont really care about WoW anymore, so I dunno :P |
07:11.23 | Elsia | they whine about _others_ experience... pretty petty if you ask me |
07:11.40 | Grum | i get why blizzard is doing the changes |
07:11.50 | Sole | I understand why blizz is doing it |
07:11.51 | Grum | i just dont get why they are taking such a blunt approach |
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07:12.02 | Sole | but I fully understand why top guilds are annoyed as well |
07:12.04 | syeren | It's obvious as to why Blizzard are doing these things, but it takes any challenge out of the game for guilds like mine :/ |
07:12.05 | Elsia | blizz had massive subscription losses in march and april when most tried to raid and kara an gruul stomped them |
07:12.09 | Sole | its basically a big "fuck you" from blizzard |
07:12.19 | Elsia | nah it isn't |
07:12.32 | Elsia | people who read that as fuck you are idiots really |
07:12.37 | Sole | thank you |
07:13.38 | Elsia | see blizzard has changed nothing for the game experience of Risen. How can that be a fuck you? Unless one has a weird ego that stares at others. |
07:14.05 | syeren | Because guilds clear that shit, sit on stagnent content. |
07:14.10 | syeren | Then it gets nerfed to fuck. |
07:14.11 | Elsia | I have really zero sympathy who want the game impossible for others just to feel special, even if it changes nothing to their own gameplay experience. |
07:14.35 | Elsia | and that changes their gameplay how? |
07:14.43 | Elsia | others get to experience the content too, that's all that happens |
07:14.45 | syeren | Because shit is easier than ever. |
07:14.51 | Sole | and they get more bored |
07:15.01 | syeren | Let's look how long we spent in Naxx. |
07:15.07 | Elsia | why is there no speed-run culture anymore btw? |
07:15.10 | Sole | thats what happened during my lvl 60 raiding days |
07:15.19 | syeren | And now lets look how long guilds spent in BT. |
07:15.19 | Elsia | Naxx was 4H. Take that out and it was about as long as the BT clear. |
07:15.31 | syeren | BT was cleared in 1 week :o |
07:15.33 | theoddone33 | man I didn't mean to start this |
07:15.38 | Sole | naxx was just freaking massive though |
07:15.41 | theoddone33 | I just wanted to know if content was easier or if guilds were better |
07:15.50 | syeren | Content is easier. |
07:15.53 | Elsia | theo: the real answer is difficult |
07:15.58 | Sole | theoddone33: certain guilds are better. but content is a lot easier also |
07:15.59 | syeren | CONTENT IS EASIER. |
07:16.00 | Elsia | kael is harder than any boss in vanilla |
07:16.09 | Elsia | vashj is harder than cthun for sure |
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07:16.28 | Elsia | archimonde requires more individual coordination and awareness than anything in vanilla I think |
07:16.32 | Grum | omg prospecting is broken! |
07:16.39 | Grum | 23 prospects and only green gems |
07:16.51 | Grum | kek .. 2 talasites now >< |
07:16.53 | Gngsk | your fate is sealed, Grum |
07:17.20 | Elsia | content isn't easier, there is really no raid content at the easiness level of MC for example |
07:17.37 | Elsia | trash in general is more demanding than trash in vanilla leave pre-twin trash |
07:17.43 | Sole | MC was hardcore when nobody knew how to raid :) |
07:17.53 | Elsia | true |
07:17.58 | Elsia | and yes there is easy content |
07:18.09 | Elsia | the first 3 MH and BT bosses are easy |
07:18.19 | Elsia | basically it's silly that Gruul and Magtheridon are harder then these bosses |
07:18.32 | syeren | All of BT and Hyjal bosses are easy. |
07:18.41 | syeren | We didn't even have to spend a fucking evening on any of them -_- |
07:18.44 | Grum | geeez |
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07:18.44 | CIA-9 | BetterQuestTracker: |
07:18.44 | CIA-9 | -Change how trackers are created to make it easier for modules to do so. |
07:18.44 | CIA-9 | -The lock toggle no longer errors if the tracker is disabled. |
07:18.44 | CIA-9 | -Ongoing changes to the FuBar module; it still don't work. |
07:18.48 | Grum | wtb blue gems :( |
07:18.57 | Ellipsis | everything in the game is easy and anyone who can't solo illidan is a noob and sucks at wow |
07:19.10 | Grum | amagawd! first non talasite/dawnstone after 47 prospects |
07:19.24 | Elsia | yep and people who can't one-shot BT need to play hello kitty island adventure :D |
07:19.36 | Sole | i prefer barbie doll online |
07:19.39 | Grum | BT is not that easy |
07:19.45 | Ellipsis | neopets for me thanks |
07:19.51 | Sole | OMGNOOBCANTCLEARBT |
07:19.57 | Sole | kek |
07:20.14 | Sole | just goin with the WoW culture -_- |
07:20.21 | Elsia | BT isn't easy, but if you raid stack, full pot and get to recruit the top 0.1% of all raiders it's easy |
07:20.28 | syeren | Well let's see. |
07:20.30 | syeren | My guild. |
07:20.33 | Elsia | it's funny that hardcore don't understand that they _make_ it easy |
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07:20.37 | syeren | Cleared BT 7th in the world. |
07:20.48 | syeren | And the consensus amongst everyone is that it was easy. |
07:20.53 | Elsia | archimonde v1.0 was easier than he is now too |
07:21.09 | Elsia | syveren: go raid with a real raid and reassess ;) |
07:21.12 | Grum | syeren: so wht was hard? |
07:21.27 | syeren | Original Mother was fun. |
07:21.30 | syeren | Until they nerfed her. |
07:21.35 | syeren | And ermm, that was it :p |
07:21.40 | Elsia | kael'thas in one reset? |
07:22.01 | Elsia | so you have the top 0.1% of raiders and expect content to be tuned for your setup? |
07:22.05 | Sole | Elsia: you mean a raid with a couple morons in it and monkeys that dont listen when youre trying to help them out? |
07:22.17 | Elsia | sole: I mean a raid with real people ;) |
07:22.19 | syeren | Would be fun? |
07:22.23 | syeren | Anyways, going to sleep. |
07:22.29 | Grum | tbh |
07:22.33 | Sole | Elsia: yeah thats about a real raid :P |
07:22.41 | Grum | dont forget that at the time they cleared shit |
07:22.47 | Grum | all pots/elixirs still stacked |
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07:23.03 | Elsia | nah, pots were nerfed before BT was released |
07:23.09 | Diao | wait hm |
07:23.14 | Grum | no they werent afaik |
07:23.17 | Elsia | but yeah D&T raid stacked and potted through kara of all places |
07:23.17 | Diao | risen guild website says kara will drop 10 epic gems per run? o_O |
07:23.24 | Grum | i saw that too diao |
07:23.29 | theoddone33 | I'd love to be able to raid with 25 people that know what they're doing at any content level |
07:23.30 | Kemayo | Yeah, pots were after BC. |
07:23.32 | theoddone33 | I've never seen it happen |
07:23.39 | Grum | icant find it in the releasenotes or on worldofraids/mmochamp |
07:23.46 | syeren | 10 Gems per run = 1 Person gets a gem each. |
07:23.56 | theoddone33 | risen's info is a little outdated |
07:23.59 | Elsia | that's fine, it's just gear that mudflates with WotLK |
07:24.01 | Diao | yea |
07:24.10 | Diao | i couldn't find any info on epic gems dropping in kara anywhere either |
07:24.11 | theoddone33 | I heard they were still QQing about the sunwell gate quest |
07:24.16 | syeren | .... |
07:24.16 | theoddone33 | but a blue post said they're dropping that |
07:24.25 | syeren | 15 BADGES OF JUSTICE = 1 EPIC GEM. |
07:24.34 | Elsia | it's just gear :D |
07:24.41 | syeren | 1 KARAZHAN = 2X BADGES OF JUSTICE. |
07:24.43 | Elsia | I wish all gear was gray |
07:24.45 | syeren | :o |
07:24.46 | ZealotOnAStick | 22 |
07:24.47 | theoddone33 | hey that means I can drop JCing |
07:24.52 | Grum | 22 |
07:25.01 | Grum | i dont get why they dont change kara to drop 1 per boss |
07:25.04 | ZealotOnAStick | unless the basement boss (who we never bother to kill) drops a badge. |
07:25.04 | syeren | I don't know, haven't cleared it for ages :p |
07:25.08 | Grum | and ZA 2-3 per boss |
07:25.09 | Elsia | big deal, gearing accelerates so people with less time have a change to meet gear checks |
07:25.13 | Grum | and SSC 4-5 per boss |
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07:25.26 | Grum | and TK 4-5 per boss and BT 6-7 per boss |
07:25.35 | Grum | they just 'revert' the scales |
07:25.47 | theoddone33 | I'm thinking badge gear should be weird stuff |
07:25.51 | Grum | so for 2hr kara you get 22 badges, which is way more for your money |
07:25.58 | theoddone33 | like resistence gear or something |
07:26.09 | Diao | most people don't do 2 hr kara |
07:26.12 | Diao | unless they're like bt level |
07:26.15 | ZealotOnAStick | but you can only do it once a week. |
07:26.18 | theoddone33 | or better yet have different badge types |
07:26.26 | ZealotOnAStick | we do 2 hour kara, 2 hour Hyjal. |
07:26.27 | theoddone33 | and tiered badge gear |
07:26.42 | ZealotOnAStick | BT takes us probably 5-6 hours total, unless people are fucking up council or illidan or RoS |
07:27.01 | Diao | yea see.. we're kara gear level and we can clear it in min of 2.5 hrs |
07:27.01 | Elsia | they really only do this because WotLK is around, gear is devalued already |
07:27.08 | Diao | 2 hrs there's no way since we don't have enough dps |
07:27.08 | syeren | Yup :p |
07:27.29 | syeren | There's a huge discussion about this in The Art Of Money thread on EJ ;p |
07:27.29 | theoddone33 | yeah that's true |
07:27.41 | theoddone33 | wotlk is gonna level gear again |
07:28.01 | syeren | Doesn't really matter if they get epic gems, because they won't be worth as much 6 months ago anyways :p |
07:28.07 | Pkekyo| | ~time |
07:28.08 | purl | 2008.03.10 7:28:08 GMT, or the fourth dimension |
07:28.17 | syeren | Just preparing people without raid access for leveling I guess :p |
07:28.18 | Elsia | basically it's opening up content before it obsoletes... something they didn't do in vanilla. I think it's a great idea. and I'm T6 raiding so I don't gain |
07:28.31 | ZealotOnAStick | http://wow.mmolecule.com/news/news.mmo?id=bd30ff82-f1ce-4986-ac11-1447df561c9b |
07:28.37 | theoddone33 | I'd still like to do naxx |
07:28.38 | Elsia | and if some egomaniacs can't take it that others see content, let them QQ. |
07:28.42 | theoddone33 | SSC? not so much |
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07:28.48 | Elsia | we get to do it in WotLK but different |
07:28.50 | theoddone33 | TK? maybe |
07:29.06 | ZealotOnAStick | SSC has a couple of fun fights. |
07:29.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Vashj fight is a lot of fun. |
07:29.21 | theoddone33 | I was in there for two wipes on fathom lord |
07:29.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Leotheras used to be. |
07:29.29 | theoddone33 | and that's all I've seen of ssc |
07:29.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Karathress used to be fun. |
07:29.42 | Elsia | I think a lot of bosses are fun actually |
07:29.43 | theoddone33 | got invited to some vashj wipes today though |
07:29.53 | ZealotOnAStick | But the worst fight in all of SSC has got to be Morogrim. Boooooooring. |
07:29.57 | theoddone33 | I mean attempts... |
07:30.06 | Elsia | morogrim is too static |
07:30.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Whatserface, the Nethermancer in TK, used to be much more fun. |
07:30.40 | Elsia | solarian |
07:30.51 | theoddone33 | I think it's telling that the guild who does more or less open raids on my server is at 5/6 SSC and 3/4 TK |
07:30.59 | ZealotOnAStick | they nerfed her (yeah, Solarian) into stupidly easy. |
07:31.00 | Elsia | it's geddon v2 + some extra AoE. really not a very imaginative design |
07:31.16 | theoddone33 | they had a dagger rogue sinister striking and not using snd on an a'lar kill |
07:31.33 | theoddone33 | but they can still down that level of content with that level of player in the raid |
07:31.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, the Kael fight used to be a major pain in the ass. |
07:31.42 | Elsia | kael and vashj are still hard. Lots of roles to fill that need to execute |
07:32.07 | ZealotOnAStick | A certain amount on those fights just comes down to gear level as well. |
07:32.09 | Elsia | 5/6 2/4 T5 basically means you haven't killed the really hard bosses in there |
07:32.16 | Elsia | s/2/3/ |
07:32.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Vash takes more coordination. Kael takes more following directions. |
07:32.46 | ZealotOnAStick | s/Vash/Vashj/ |
07:33.39 | Elsia | kael is harder because it contains more of a gear check in phase 2/3 while vashj really isn't much of a DPS race beyond individual elemental killers having to be able to do their job which is managable with average gear |
07:33.52 | ZealotOnAStick | for the most part, I've been unimpressed with the SP encounters. |
07:34.22 | Elsia | I think lurker and hydross are fun, leotheras is fine and vashj is nice |
07:34.32 | Elsia | compared to MC/BWL that's a good fun ratio |
07:34.48 | ZealotOnAStick | final phase of Vashj is something of a gear check. Even if you bring 2 or 3 Marks hunters, it's still a matter of dropping her fast enough that the bats don't overwhelm you. |
07:34.54 | Elsia | remember how many bosses in MC and BWL weren't that special? 3 dragons? or half of MC at least? |
07:35.29 | ZealotOnAStick | None of the fire-naga were very interesting. |
07:35.41 | Elsia | vashj phase 3 is managable with 1 hunter and 1 lock on bat duty really. as long as your tank moves and your shammy grounds it's not that huge a DPS race |
07:36.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Did they change it? |
07:36.21 | Elsia | not that I know |
07:36.22 | ZealotOnAStick | I've never been able to get range on the bats, as a warlock. |
07:36.46 | ZealotOnAStick | and I had both range talents then. |
07:37.05 | Elsia | well our lock manages somehow, I'd have to ask him about positioning though |
07:37.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
07:37.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I wonder if there's some terrain 'sploit to allow hitting some of them. |
07:37.44 | Elsia | he just dots them though, no chance for SBs |
07:38.00 | ZealotOnAStick | mm, so Seed is probably out. |
07:38.26 | ZealotOnAStick | he's better used on Vashj then, just let the hunter(s) take the bats. |
07:38.59 | Elsia | well we only use the lock on bats if we are really low on hunters, as said we managed fine with 1 hunter and 1 lock, if we have more hunters the lock is on vashj |
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07:39.44 | Elsia | really the vashj fight is phase 2. I think we failed phase 3 once and that was to the loss of the grounding shammy and not due to bats necessarily. |
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07:40.50 | Elsia | most disappointing boss for me was shade of akama, neffy phase 1 basically, and that not that hard. |
07:42.33 | Grum | MH1-3, BT1-3 is just free loot |
07:42.54 | Grum | but they have to be there including trash because of the hearts of darkness |
07:43.27 | Grum | the trash between naj and akama is a seriously stupid amount |
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07:45.01 | ZealotOnAStick | We don't bother all of it. |
07:45.11 | ZealotOnAStick | We kill up to Supremus, then run back and teleport up. |
07:45.34 | ZealotOnAStick | skip about 1/3 of the central square trash. |
07:45.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. |
07:46.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm having a hard time figuring out a "security question" option. Wants my favorite historical figure. |
07:46.29 | Arrowmaster | you only skip like 2 pulls that way though dont you? |
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07:47.02 | ZealotOnAStick | no. Several. 2 patrols that are pretty much unavoidable, several demon packs. |
07:47.41 | Arrowmaster | we only pull 1 pat |
07:47.42 | ZealotOnAStick | we port to the ashtongue, go clear to Akama and kill him, then there's a bunch of Ashtongue up walking around we don't have to deal with. |
07:48.55 | Arrowmaster | we pull 2 groups inside the doorway, 1 pat, 1 group on the corner, and 1 group right by the door (i think theres a group right by the door i dont remember) |
07:49.50 | theoddone33 | destruction is stupid for leveling a warlock right? |
07:49.58 | Arrowmaster | yes |
07:49.58 | theoddone33 | very bored with the class |
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07:50.41 | theoddone33 | why? mana inefficiency? |
07:50.44 | Bruners | i leveled my warlock from 60->68 with destruction |
07:50.51 | theoddone33 | well I'm 31, heh |
07:52.12 | Bruners | hybrid destruction/affliction would be the best for leveling before level 50 |
07:52.46 | theoddone33 | right now I'm 100% affliction drain tank |
07:52.50 | theoddone33 | boring the crap out of me |
07:53.04 | Ellipsis | destro is very inefficient and usually not recommended for leveling because of it |
07:53.27 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't personally level destro without a pocket healer |
07:53.38 | Arrowmaster | or pocket mage |
07:53.49 | Ellipsis | eh, it's still downtime |
07:53.54 | theoddone33 | I kind of want to play it like a mage |
07:54.02 | theoddone33 | except I'd be drinking/eating a lot |
07:54.13 | ZealotOnAStick | aff or demonology for leveling, generally. |
07:54.25 | ZealotOnAStick | though Dest/demon will be viable for 70-80. |
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07:54.38 | ZealotOnAStick | backlash and nether protection are almost OP. |
07:54.48 | Ellipsis | dest/demon? o.O |
07:54.55 | ZealotOnAStick | 0/21/40 |
07:55.06 | Ellipsis | hm...I suppose |
07:55.35 | Ellipsis | rather have the FG and/or CoEx if I'm gonna be soloing the grind though |
07:55.39 | Fisker- | you guys seen the zerg announcement? :o |
07:55.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I respecced out of "Aff bitch" role for a while to play with the Big Numbers spec. |
07:56.01 | ZealotOnAStick | I watched a video of mediocre quality. |
07:56.01 | Fisker- | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/186897.html |
07:56.05 | theoddone33 | I could get soul link |
07:56.07 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, that one. |
07:56.14 | theoddone33 | at this level, but I don't know waht I'd do with it |
07:56.36 | ZealotOnAStick | what level are you? |
07:56.40 | theoddone33 | 31 |
07:56.50 | ZealotOnAStick | most of your points thus far are where? |
07:57.01 | theoddone33 | all in affliction |
07:57.26 | theoddone33 | pretty standard drain tanking setup for this level |
07:57.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Continue on down. aim for Shadow Mastery, or start some of the Dest talents. |
07:58.01 | ZealotOnAStick | or pick up the "sacrifice a stat locks don't care about for more stamina" talent in first tier demonology. |
07:58.17 | theoddone33 | well the issue is that I'm bored leveling |
07:58.25 | theoddone33 | which usually for me means trying a different playstyle |
07:58.54 | Ellipsis | I'm a big fan of demonic embrace, it actually has a decent effect at low levels |
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08:01.57 | theoddone33 | heh unlearning your talents desummons your pet? cute |
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08:04.42 | Fisker- | theoddone33 |
08:04.52 | Fisker- | Talents that applied to the pet stayed after being unlearned |
08:05.00 | Fisker- | so to stop sploiters they desummon it |
08:05.10 | theoddone33 | ah |
08:05.19 | Ellipsis | you used to be able to spec out of FG while your FG was summoned |
08:05.31 | Fisker- | or soullink for that matter |
08:05.34 | Ellipsis | so you could effectively have two 41-pt talents active at a time |
08:06.16 | theoddone33 | one of the demon sacrifice effects should be 30% movement speed |
08:06.55 | Ellipsis | for the full 30mins? |
08:07.00 | Ellipsis | sounds kinda OP for pvp |
08:07.16 | theoddone33 | true |
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08:07.33 | theoddone33 | just annoyed that druids/hunters/shaman have a fast way to get around at 20 and I don't |
08:07.46 | Ellipsis | QQ moar |
08:08.00 | Ellipsis | also druids don't get theirs til like 30 or something |
08:08.03 | theoddone33 | walking is terrible |
08:08.10 | theoddone33 | they have like +15% speed in cat from talents |
08:08.36 | Ellipsis | outdoors only |
08:08.40 | theoddone33 | right |
08:08.45 | theoddone33 | shaman is outdoors only as well |
08:09.00 | Ellipsis | and how many talent points is it to get that talent anyway |
08:09.06 | CIA-9 | 03cwdg * r64103 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: zhCN update |
08:09.07 | theoddone33 | 12 i believe |
08:09.18 | Ellipsis | nevermind that you couldn't get DS at level 20 either, lol |
08:09.27 | thul | hmm |
08:09.35 | theoddone33 | yeah but I'm level 30 and still slow :( |
08:09.44 | theoddone33 | even rogues have 15% in talents now |
08:09.50 | theoddone33 | QQ QQ QQ |
08:09.52 | theoddone33 | etc |
08:11.05 | theoddone33 | ds is a poor leveling talent it seems |
08:11.12 | theoddone33 | ah well |
08:11.16 | Ellipsis | um, yeah |
08:11.29 | CIA-9 | 03diablohu * r64104 10Proximo2/locals/localization-zhCN.lua: |
08:11.29 | CIA-9 | Proximo2 |
08:11.29 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update |
08:11.41 | thul | CRY SOME MORE PLEASE |
08:12.04 | thul | best pickupline ever. |
08:12.30 | thul | IN FLAMES - ONLY FOR THE WEAK |
08:12.31 | thul | etc |
08:12.32 | thul | I like caps |
08:13.47 | theoddone33 | for some reason I thought you could summon another demon with DS |
08:14.08 | theoddone33 | then I realized people used to use shock cables on theirs for that reason |
08:16.28 | ramoz | what |
08:16.31 | ramoz | thats possible? |
08:16.41 | theoddone33 | it used to be, I don't know if it still is |
08:16.47 | theoddone33 | this is back when I was doing MC |
08:16.50 | theoddone33 | people used to do that |
08:17.29 | ZealotOnAStick | they changed it back before BC so it wasn't possible any more. |
08:18.12 | ZealotOnAStick | troll priests/shamans used to be the choice for it. |
08:18.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Berserk Rez |
08:22.37 | ramoz | mm |
08:22.45 | ramoz | doesnt work with bloodlust either |
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08:23.42 | theoddone33 | rebirth? :) |
08:23.57 | ZealotOnAStick | no. |
08:24.02 | ZealotOnAStick | doesn't work anymore. Period. |
08:24.12 | ZealotOnAStick | hasn't for a long time. |
08:24.27 | ZealotOnAStick | since before BC. |
08:24.48 | ramoz | so mean, ZealotOnAStick |
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08:25.15 | theoddone33 | more like so mean, blizzard |
08:25.24 | Arrowmaster | it was an exploit |
08:26.09 | ZealotOnAStick | one which a CM said that they weren't going to consider an exploit/actionable thing, but a "creative use of game mechanics" |
08:26.32 | theoddone33 | they're really flaky on exploits |
08:26.43 | ZealotOnAStick | but they finally fixed it, and half the raiding warlocks specced out of MD. |
08:26.52 | theoddone33 | clamping down on harmless ones yet flat out refusing to change others or claiming they're intended when it's clearly bad |
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08:33.52 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64106 10MagicMarker/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
08:33.52 | CIA-9 | MagicMarker: |
08:33.52 | CIA-9 | - Added new configuration options: Delay between remarking, Honor third party raid icons, Reserve raid group icons, Reset raid icons when resetting the cache, Enable target re-prioritization during combat |
08:33.52 | CIA-9 | - Use AceDB for configuration options (not used for raid icons or mob database atm) |
08:33.52 | CIA-9 | - Reorganized options somewhat. |
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08:39.50 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64107 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): MagicMarker: changed the name of an option (reserve to preserve) |
08:40.05 | NeoTron | phew. time to go to bed |
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08:49.21 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64108 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: Fixed some bugs related to preserving raid group target icons. |
08:49.22 | NeoTron | and with that fix I will REALLY head out. ttfn |
08:56.58 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * r330aa3ea03 10TourGuide/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Minor Outland fixes |
08:57.51 | Grum | r330aa3ea03 <-- kek! |
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09:12.26 | Zhinjio | Good evening. |
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09:14.27 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
09:15.06 | ValleG | Like a Tickle me Elmo ? |
09:15.38 | Grum | fake elmo! |
09:16.02 | Zhinjio | yeah, I'm fairly certain I share nothing in common with sesame street toys |
09:16.24 | Zhinjio | there might be some slight similarities with the pillsbury doughboy, or the michelin man. |
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09:28.37 | Sole | z is the complex number cosΘ + i sinΘ. Prove that (1 + z)/(1+ž) = z |
09:29.11 | Sole | (1 + ž) = meant to be a straight line above z but I cant find that character atm. just the conjugate symbol |
09:29.35 | Sole | Θ = meant to be theta :P |
09:30.29 | sica | looks like a theta to me |
09:30.31 | CIA-9 | 03elsia 072.4 * r64109 10Recount/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
09:30.31 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
09:30.31 | CIA-9 | - Added zone/instance dependent filters. |
09:30.31 | CIA-9 | - Some cleanup for deletion options (ineffective options will be gray'd) |
09:31.05 | Sole | I think I have the solution actually |
09:31.07 | Sole | lemme check |
09:31.13 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r139 10/trunk/TinyTipOptions/ (6 files in 2 dirs): TinyTipOptions: Initial dry-coded commit of Dewdrop version, with all localizations I had. 2.4 will make me recode this again. |
09:32.21 | Sole | cosΘ + i sinΘ = 1 cis Θ . But what would be the conjugate of that? -1 cis Θ ? |
09:32.35 | Sole | or cosΘ - i sinΘ |
09:33.10 | Elsia | conjugate is cos x - i sin x of cos x + i sin x, the definition is that you change the sign of the imaginary part |
09:34.49 | Elsia | (1+z)/(1+z*) = z -> (1+z)=z*(1+z*) -> (1+z)=z+z*(z*) then show that z*(z*) = 1 |
09:34.56 | Elsia | z* is the conjugate of z |
09:35.47 | Sole | ty I'll work on it |
09:38.02 | Trell_ | Anyone know if theres a problem with ProffessionsBook not playing nicely with Skillet? |
09:38.12 | Elsia | works fine for me |
09:38.34 | Trell_ | right, so let me make sure I'm doing this right - I open my Profession window. |
09:38.40 | Trell_ | I then do /pb show |
09:38.46 | Trell_ | and it should have scanned everything? |
09:38.50 | Trell_ | or am I missing a vital step. |
09:39.00 | ramoz | Thrae: any chance you're gonna add a option for the old target thingie? i don't like the Targeting: target at the bottom =( |
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09:39.15 | Elsia | sole: remember that cos a*cos a+ sin a* sin a = 1 ;) |
09:39.26 | Zeksie | meh.. why does my menu anchor move as soon as i click some option... fubarplugin style, on minimap atm.. |
09:39.45 | Thrae | ramoz: There already is. |
09:40.03 | ramoz | really? |
09:40.03 | Elsia | trell: it scans whenever you open the professions window |
09:40.08 | ramoz | i hanvt found it |
09:40.13 | ramoz | gonna have a look later tonight |
09:40.25 | Elsia | and /pb show just shows pb, doesn't have anyhting to do with scanning |
09:40.45 | Sole | Elsia: ty |
09:41.15 | Zeksie | nm... found out why.. the icon is slightly off edge of screen, so after hte first click the menu repositions so it's not touching edge... it should do it befor first show tho :| |
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09:47.45 | Sole | Elsia: thanks for the help, I understand it now :) |
09:49.48 | Olison | Hmm, looking for advice: Imagine your AddOns folder had lots of sub-folders, the most managed by jwowupdater... but with a few co'd SVN folders aswell, how would you best update those without too much hassle (I'm currently updating each single svn addon with rightclick, svn update in tortoisesvn} |
09:50.14 | clad|office | Olison: download commandlnie svn |
09:50.15 | clad|office | svn update * |
09:50.39 | Olison | When i mount the folder via samba and try to `svn up *` via a linux machine, it gives me permission denied errors |
09:50.40 | Olison | also, i tried it with cygwin |
09:50.47 | Olison | sec, getting exact error message |
09:50.55 | clad|office | don't use cgywin |
09:50.58 | clad|office | don't use samba |
09:51.01 | clad|office | download the win32 svn binaries |
09:51.03 | clad|office | and svn update * |
09:51.08 | Olison | Hm ok |
09:51.09 | clad|office | don't need any voodoo |
09:51.46 | Elsia | sole: great |
09:51.49 | ValleG | Voodoo is best left to trolls |
09:52.01 | ValleG | and shamans |
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09:55.00 | ramoz | clad|office: wtb "mana" thing for praid! |
09:56.03 | clad|office | huh>? |
09:56.06 | clad|office | praid has mana bars |
09:57.21 | clad|office | or are you talking the "low mana" indicator? |
09:57.23 | Fisker- | he said thing not bars |
09:57.24 | Fisker- | HOHO |
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10:00.46 | ValleG | was it |r to end |c ? |
10:01.22 | ValleG | guess so :> |
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10:07.25 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r140 10/trunk/TinyTipOptions/ (5 files in 2 dirs): TinyTipOptions: Fixed all bone-headed mistakes. It's working now. Wee. |
10:07.25 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r141 10/trunk/TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc): TinyTip: Various updates to allow TinyTipOptions to work. Also added "Scale", "HideInCombat", and "HideInFrames" functionality to the core. |
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10:10.55 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r64110 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc): TinyTip: Update to allow saved variables, profiles, TinyTipOptions usage (in-game menu, use /ttip), and also new "Scale", "HideInCombat", and "HideInFrames" functionality. |
10:11.17 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r142 10/trunk/TinyTipBasic/TinyTipBasic.lua: TinyTipBasic: Changed code so it'll work with profiles. |
10:11.17 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r143 10/trunk/TinyTipPositioning/TinyTipPositioning.lua: TinyTipPositioning: Changed code so it'll work with profiles. |
10:11.17 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r144 10/trunk/TinyTipTargets/TinyTipTargets.lua: TinyTipTargets: Changed code so it'll work with profiles. |
10:13.37 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r64111 10TinyTipOptions/ (12 files in 3 dirs): TinyTipOptions: Slightly revamped in-game menu. Currently uses yucky Dewdrop. Will recode come 2.4 to use Blizzard's interface. |
10:15.17 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64112 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
10:15.17 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
10:15.17 | CIA-9 | - Sunwell update |
10:15.20 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r64113 10TinyTipOptions/libs/: TinyTipOptions: Apply externals. |
10:15.25 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64114 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
10:15.25 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
10:15.25 | CIA-9 | - Lord Ahune updated |
10:15.36 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64115 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
10:15.36 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
10:15.36 | CIA-9 | - Arena Season 4 updated |
10:15.49 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64116 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
10:15.49 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
10:15.49 | CIA-9 | - Shattered Sun Offensive updated |
10:16.14 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r64118 10TinyTipPositioning/TinyTipPositioning.lua: TinyTipPositioning: Add profile support. |
10:16.15 | CIA-9 | 03hegarol * r64117 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: |
10:16.15 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
10:16.15 | CIA-9 | - Shattered Sun Offensive updated |
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10:17.04 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r64119 10TinyTipTargets/TinyTipTargets.lua: TinyTipTargets: Profile support. |
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10:17.28 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r64120 10TinyTipBasic/TinyTipBasic.lua: TinyTipBasic: Profile support. |
10:19.17 | Zeksie | how come tinytip options won't show up in wau. no wonder i can't get it working right. |
10:19.22 | CIA-9 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r145 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Whoops. Menu was only appearing once per UI reload. Fixed. |
10:19.39 | Thrae | Zeksie: Because I just commited it 2 minutes ago. |
10:19.43 | Zeksie | ahhah |
10:19.52 | Zeksie | will wait a bit then |
10:20.21 | CIA-9 | 03thrae * r64121 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: GSVN --> WSVN |
10:21.21 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64122 10SmoothQuest/ (. SmoothQuest.lua SmoothQuest.toc): |
10:21.21 | CIA-9 | SmoothQuest: Initial Import |
10:21.21 | CIA-9 | - Adds level and difficulty coloring to the blizzard questwatch |
10:21.21 | CIA-9 | - Adds gradient progress coloring to the blizzard questwatch |
10:21.21 | CIA-9 | - Adds quest info to mob/item tooltips |
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10:28.10 | nevcairiel | yay for [Ammo] |
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10:33.26 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64123 10SmoothQuest/ (SmoothQuest.lua SmoothQuest.toc libs/ libs.xml): SmoothQuest: externals and stuff |
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10:35.56 | ramoz | [Ammo]: will SmoothQuest show the lvl of the quest in the questlist? |
10:36.07 | [Ammo] | yeah |
10:37.01 | ramoz | sweet |
10:37.14 | ramoz | time to drop my old hack from some old CT mod |
10:40.10 | [Ammo] | but if that's al you're looking for |
10:40.17 | [Ammo] | I suggest getting QueLevel by Tekkub |
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10:42.04 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r64124 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/ (burningcrusade.cn.lua burningcrusade.tw.lua): |
10:42.04 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
10:42.04 | CIA-9 | - zhCN & zhTW update |
10:42.13 | Pkekyo| | aighty, I'm off to london - see you in a week |
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10:49.35 | teetow | Thrae: \o/ |
10:50.09 | teetow | wish it was possible to run WoW over VNC so I could try it out right away... =P |
10:52.04 | ValleG | lol |
10:52.12 | Funkeh` | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/09/2136242&from=rss |
10:52.19 | SunTsu | teetow: It is possible ;) |
10:52.27 | teetow | SunTsu: not really |
10:52.35 | teetow | the y-axis of my mouse gets vastly upscaled |
10:52.41 | SunTsu | teetow: You just have to keep yelling that you're no bot because you are moving jerky ;) |
10:53.09 | SunTsu | teetow: I always used the cursor keys for movement |
10:53.10 | teetow | so I can choose between staring at a skybox or the ground at roughly 5 FPM |
10:54.09 | teetow | oh well |
10:54.14 | teetow | patience is a virtue, after all. |
10:54.18 | teetow | or so they say. |
10:54.50 | teetow | Thrae: the fact that you now support saving user prefs doesn't automatically mean TinyTipFu will work, right? |
10:56.24 | Camci | any good ActionBar addons? :P |
10:59.07 | ValleG | Camci, depends on what you want to do with 'em. |
10:59.40 | Camci | i have used Bartender3 for a long time |
10:59.42 | ValleG | I liked Bartender3 when I don't use default blizzards |
10:59.46 | Camci | i desided to change my whole UI |
10:59.50 | Camci | getting bored of it |
11:00.10 | ValleG | Ever tried CyCircled? |
11:00.13 | Camci | so i have got pitbull to play with ( have used aq_ui ) |
11:00.16 | Fisker- | Funkeh` the number score is irrelevant when the layout is already screwed |
11:00.35 | Camci | yea im using CyCircled to |
11:00.36 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, the latest ie scores a magical 12 |
11:00.37 | Camci | too* |
11:01.17 | Fisker- | The number isn't the only relevant part in the test |
11:01.43 | Funkeh` | it is when it's only 12 |
11:01.50 | Funkeh` | I don't need to even lok at the layout |
11:01.59 | Camci | where can i get this cool designs for pitbull? |
11:02.00 | Camci | :P |
11:02.13 | Ellipsis | Camci: open the options and start playing around |
11:02.49 | ValleG | I guess the forum thread works but last time I looked there wasn't that many....considering the amount of pages |
11:02.55 | Camci | ya, its just soo much :P |
11:03.46 | Funkeh` | vista SP1 tomorow? |
11:04.08 | ValleG | I like uOF better though |
11:04.10 | ValleG | oUF* |
11:04.20 | Funkeh` | probably the tuesday after |
11:06.37 | Fisker- | Funkeh` yeah well tell that to the guys who made it |
11:06.50 | Fisker- | A score of 100/100 doesn't mean a pass either |
11:07.28 | nevcairiel | 100/100 + perfect comparison to the reference shot |
11:08.16 | ValleG | I couldn't even open the page does that mean I fail? |
11:08.25 | Fisker- | definitely |
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11:09.31 | Fisker- | Infact if you have to be coherent with the requirements of that test IE5.5 scores 2/100 and IE7 scores 6/100 |
11:10.01 | Fisker- | i wonder how it looks in that safari nightly build |
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11:11.15 | Fisker- | oh |
11:11.22 | Funkeh` | sandboxing ie8 to test |
11:11.25 | Fisker- | and it's incorrect to list Firefox as 69/100 btw |
11:11.32 | Fisker- | well atleast with the build i have |
11:11.40 | Fisker- | cause it fails before that |
11:12.19 | ValleG | You're on mac? |
11:12.25 | Fisker- | nope |
11:12.58 | ValleG | the 69% score was on OS X & centOS |
11:13.05 | CIA-9 | 03peragor * r64125 10GridLayoutPlus/embed.xml: |
11:13.05 | CIA-9 | GridLayoutPlus: |
11:13.05 | CIA-9 | - Another embed fix |
11:13.15 | Camci | lol dont understand pitbull |
11:13.18 | Fisker- | I know |
11:13.31 | Fisker- | But i'm still confident that they're unable to comprehend the test |
11:13.43 | Ellipsis | oh Fisker- |
11:13.43 | ValleG | Camci, you'll learn eventually. Just remember to enable config mode so you can actually configure all elements |
11:13.47 | Fisker- | It's not a "open in browser, and if it's x/100 then that's the result" |
11:13.50 | nevcairiel | i get a 69/100 with firefox trunk |
11:13.52 | Ellipsis | will you two kiss and make up already |
11:13.56 | Fisker- | no u |
11:14.14 | Fisker- | 67/100 with Fx3 b4 build |
11:14.24 | Camci | Yea thats what i did, but there is no layouts |
11:14.26 | nevcairiel | 69/100 with nightly b5-pre! |
11:14.29 | Camci | where can i get layouts? |
11:14.38 | Fisker- | But it fails earlier than 67/100 |
11:14.41 | ValleG | You gotta make your own or import one from the forums |
11:15.04 | nevcairiel | the animation isnt smooth in any browser right now, so thats where it fails too :P |
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11:15.09 | Fisker- | I don't know if it's fixed in b5-pre but the boxes are not correctly shaped and there's a line in the middle of it |
11:15.30 | nevcairiel | the boxes look alright |
11:15.34 | nevcairiel | just miss their colors |
11:15.59 | Fisker- | On mine half the box were a couple of pixels off |
11:16.11 | ValleG | Are you a web developer? |
11:16.14 | Fisker- | just gonna update |
11:16.29 | nevcairiel | direct comparison with the rendering .. boxes miss the color, the Acid3 text misses the shadow |
11:16.35 | nevcairiel | and the red boxes are still there :D |
11:16.40 | Fisker- | yeah looks a lot better on the b5-pre |
11:16.48 | Fisker- | for some reason i only get 68/100 :o |
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11:19.37 | ValleG | What do you think so far http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2829/wowscrnshot031008121458eh5.jpg |
11:19.57 | ValleG | oUF <3 |
11:20.16 | Fisker- | http://www.hutton-web-design.co.uk/tanker.html <- :D |
11:20.16 | Funkeh` | What's so great about it |
11:20.30 | Funkeh` | default uf looks prettier than that |
11:20.56 | Ellipsis | eek, blue on black |
11:21.14 | ValleG | gotta change shaman color -.- |
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11:21.46 | CIA-9 | 03merl * r64126 10/branches/mHud/ (SplitModules_bat.txt mBar.lua mHud.lua): mHud: Fixed ALT-Z problem |
11:24.11 | ValleG | "the front is not supposed to fall out", "gotta have a steering wheel" lol |
11:24.27 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64127 10SmoothQuest/SmoothQuest.lua: SmoothQuest: heroic tag |
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11:37.32 | Camci | ill just use my old UI... |
11:37.39 | Camci | i suck at making new UI |
11:37.41 | Camci | >_> |
11:39.30 | Industrial | ui schmui |
11:39.31 | thul | YES YOU DO |
11:39.57 | Industrial | I dont care for interfaces |
11:40.05 | Industrial | I care for functional unitframes an actionbars |
11:40.09 | Industrial | dont need anything else |
11:40.20 | Industrial | none'o'dat fluffy crap |
11:40.38 | Industrial | and voila, I have an "ui" |
11:40.59 | thul | i want minimalizm, functionalism and sexynoalism. |
11:41.34 | Industrial | so make your minimal unitframes sexy |
11:41.41 | thul | they are |
11:41.53 | Industrial | dont add any textures and crap that make you see the ingame world less good |
11:42.15 | Industrial | Like blizzard does it. |
11:43.33 | evl | Industrial: I second that |
11:43.50 | evl | Industrial: http://dump.no/files/31b3f6e44b98/ScreenShot_030508_002530.jpeg |
11:43.54 | evl | KISS ftw |
11:43.57 | haste | http://www.hutton-web-design.co.uk/tanker.html :3 |
11:44.24 | Industrial | ^^ |
11:44.27 | Industrial | lag |
11:44.37 | Industrial | thats a good 404, haste :p |
11:44.44 | Industrial | or uh, I mean 501 |
11:44.46 | haste | :D |
11:44.59 | thul | I need cooldowns, hots/dots, etc. |
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11:45.58 | Industrial | last part is best :p |
11:46.06 | Industrial | thul: try oCD |
11:46.11 | Industrial | or omniCC |
11:46.14 | thul | I do have a cc |
11:46.16 | thul | I'm just saying |
11:46.21 | Industrial | no need for flashy bars for that |
11:46.22 | Industrial | :p |
11:46.23 | thul | that i can't have it _that_ minimalizt |
11:46.27 | thul | st |
11:46.33 | thul | i want bars that are in my face |
11:46.36 | thul | so i can see them |
11:46.40 | thul | and enemy cast bars |
11:46.55 | Industrial | well move your face to where the unitframes are |
11:47.07 | Industrial | castingbars are in the functional part of unitframes for the most part |
11:47.08 | thul | no. |
11:47.14 | Fisker- | owld haste |
11:47.16 | Camci | Why doesnt coolDown work anymore? or is there any other such addon? |
11:47.19 | Industrial | thats how unitframes work, you look at them |
11:47.22 | Zeksie | heh. i'd be pressing alt-z all the time cos my interface is MISSING! |
11:47.27 | CIA-9 | 03simlan * r64128 10ActionCombat/ActionCombat.lua: ActionCombat: Vertical animation window offsets are properly stored now. |
11:47.30 | haste | Fisker-: I don't give a shit, it's awesome regardless :3 |
11:47.31 | thul | i would rather have semi-transparent bars closer to my character :-) |
11:47.38 | thul | if you are a lazy ass caster, i can understand |
11:47.38 | Fisker- | >:3 |
11:47.43 | Fisker- | you stoel my link |
11:47.45 | thul | but some of us play chars that have to move around a lot :-P |
11:47.49 | Industrial | so put your unitframes at your character |
11:47.52 | Industrial | so you can look at them |
11:47.55 | Industrial | logic! |
11:48.09 | thul | oooor... put transparent casting/cd/hot/dot-bars there |
11:48.11 | thul | logic. |
11:48.20 | Industrial | thats duplication functionality |
11:48.21 | Ellipsis | needs moar stuff on the screen |
11:48.21 | thul | you confuse "my personal opinion" with "logic" |
11:48.26 | haste | Fisker-: and you stole it from someone else! |
11:48.28 | Chompers | how's hyjal Fisker-? |
11:48.36 | haste | you.. thief! |
11:48.42 | Fisker- | no u haste |
11:48.43 | thul | that is a quite common, but still seriously flawed thing to do :-) |
11:48.44 | Fisker- | fine Chompers |
11:48.47 | Fisker- | you? |
11:48.52 | haste | I've yet to see you gank my priest Mr. Din |
11:48.59 | Fisker- | :( |
11:49.16 | Chompers | we tried bt last night, first boss is pretty tough :/ |
11:50.05 | Fisker- | owned |
11:50.07 | Fisker- | got him? |
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11:50.40 | Fisker- | i am going to kill you |
11:50.58 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r64129 10SmoothQuest/SmoothQuest.lua: SmoothQuest: show the daily quest indicator for dungeon/heroic quests too |
11:51.10 | Chompers | no Fisker- |
11:51.13 | Chompers | we fail :< |
11:51.31 | Chompers | shadow priest doing less dps than a tank |
11:51.43 | Chompers | and a druid who plays in first person mode without raid frames |
11:52.06 | Stanzilla | lol |
11:52.07 | Fisker- | rawr |
11:52.12 | Fisker- | how far are you in hyjal then? |
11:52.17 | Chompers | first three |
11:52.20 | Fisker- | hoho |
11:52.23 | Fisker- | we're going to own you |
11:52.25 | Chompers | then we went back to attune people and stuffs |
11:52.28 | Chompers | yes, yes you are. |
11:52.30 | Fisker- | :O |
11:53.11 | Fisker- | We wiped on vashj yesterday |
11:53.15 | Fisker- | stupid n00bs :( |
11:53.16 | Chompers | i refuse to do hyjal boss #2 and #3 without a pally tank, the trash hurts too much |
11:53.25 | Chompers | har har Fisker- |
11:53.42 | Fisker- | He couldn't reach the guy at the last generator |
11:53.44 | Fisker- | and i knew that |
11:53.49 | Fisker- | So i told him to throw it at me instead |
11:53.59 | Chompers | same, the noobs passed the core to warlock guy |
11:54.07 | Fisker- | Then he tossed it to some healer that was barely able to keep the naga tank up as it were |
11:54.25 | Fisker- | So we lost the naga tank because he had to throw it to me |
11:54.26 | Chompers | week before that 2 recruits ninjad the loot by accident |
11:54.28 | Chompers | LAWL |
11:54.36 | Fisker- | :o |
11:54.38 | Chompers | fail Fisker- |
11:54.51 | Fisker- | Yeah and before we knew of it we had lost half the raid :P |
11:55.45 | Fisker- | I hope we'll take azgalor tomorrow though |
11:55.51 | Chompers | cool |
11:56.02 | evl | AZZgalore? |
11:56.04 | evl | i hate that boss |
11:56.30 | Fisker- | I LOVE him |
11:56.34 | Fisker- | or something |
11:56.36 | evl | he's like a girl with her period, you pop all your cooldowns and you're ready to fuck and then that god damn fire comes AGAIN |
11:56.43 | Chompers | is he second or third? |
11:56.49 | evl | fourth? |
11:56.49 | Fisker- | fourth |
11:56.55 | Chompers | oh i say |
11:56.59 | Chompers | then archi |
11:57.08 | evl | yes |
11:57.16 | evl | he has less fire but there is still fire |
11:57.29 | Chompers | FIRE |
11:57.33 | evl | YES |
11:57.34 | Fisker- | just tank him neer the well |
11:57.38 | evl | weeeel |
11:57.41 | Fisker- | near* |
11:57.45 | evl | well of eternity? |
11:58.35 | Chompers | is MH rep meant to be this slow? |
11:58.38 | evl | we just tank him in the middle of the plain there but is there some new easymode? |
11:58.44 | nevcairiel | Chompers: yes |
11:58.45 | Chompers | friendly/honored is taking ages |
11:58.47 | evl | Chompers: Yes, but "fixed" in 2.4 |
11:58.52 | Chompers | hrm, fail |
11:59.11 | nevcairiel | i'm finally exalted now, tho |
11:59.20 | evl | ditto, that ring is the sex |
11:59.37 | evl | only loot in <2.4 that's the same item level as illy loot afaik |
11:59.58 | Chompers | i need revered for it to be better than the prince ring |
11:59.59 | evl | Fisker-: Whats is this new tanking spot? |
12:00.05 | nevcairiel | the ring has 152 .. thats higher then illi iirc |
12:00.21 | evl | yeah it is |
12:00.24 | evl | ZOMG! |
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12:03.52 | Fisker- | what new tanking spot evl ? :o |
12:04.02 | Fisker- | anyone know the new rep rates in MH btw? |
12:04.07 | evl | Fisker-: just tank him neer the well |
12:04.19 | Fisker- | you don't know? |
12:04.41 | Fisker- | If you tank him near the well of eternity he'll kill the raid |
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12:05.32 | Arrowmaster | tank him in the hills |
12:08.19 | Chompers | in the hills and far away |
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12:08.44 | evl | we just tank where he stands almost |
12:08.56 | evl | in the middle of the grassy field there, is there a better spot where you can avoid flames? |
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12:16.38 | Grum | middle is better |
12:16.44 | Grum | less chance on accidents |
12:17.03 | evl | accidents are usally mages "omg i blinked!!!11" |
12:17.09 | evl | or hunters "what? tears?" |
12:17.18 | evl | or fury warriors "the flames give me rage man!" |
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12:18.40 | Grum | or amagawd i landed in tree! |
12:18.50 | Grum | and i ran out of it before the cooldown of my tear was up |
12:19.28 | evl | that last one is a lie :P |
12:19.38 | evl | cd is 10 seconds and he never bursts more than every 15 sec |
12:19.43 | Arrowmaster | we tank him in the hills |
12:19.50 | Arrowmaster | nobody gets touched by the flames |
12:19.55 | Arrowmaster | although we land in trees a lot |
12:20.24 | Arrowmaster | but nobody ever dies from trees |
12:20.44 | keiss | Arrowmaster: we do the same |
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12:21.05 | Arrowmaster | some spots you dont even need to use the tears |
12:21.35 | keiss | fortunatelly ppl finally learned not to die from fall dmg so thats not an issue :) |
12:21.56 | evl | Arrowmaster: how does that solve the flame problem, they are still in range of them? |
12:22.08 | keiss | evl: the flames cant leave the rocks basically |
12:22.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah as long as hes in the right spots the flames stay in the grass and dont touch the hills |
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12:22.53 | evl | http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=3606 |
12:22.57 | keiss | Arrowmaster: oh you mean u have the raid in the hills ? |
12:22.59 | evl | aprox where are these hills? |
12:23.02 | Arrowmaster | if you pull him too far into the hills then the flames will come up the hills too |
12:23.22 | Arrowmaster | southeast for us |
12:23.48 | keiss | we do the opposite , archimonde in the hills , that way the raid can spread better |
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12:24.26 | Arrowmaster | just spend a night experimenting as a raid and youll figure out the best way to do it |
12:24.35 | evl | Arrowmaster: so the flames can't climb/descend? |
12:24.58 | Arrowmaster | if they start in one part they stay in that part and dont goto the other |
12:25.04 | keiss | evl: if the fire is on grass , it can travel only on grass , so if you stand on a rock , it can't reach you , and vice-versa |
12:25.43 | Arrowmaster | we tank him in the grass with his back right against a hill and our melee stands on that one |
12:26.05 | keiss | evl: i can post a filefront movie of us doing it ... |
12:26.52 | evl | keiss: would be great :) |
12:28.16 | Arrowmaster | bah, 8:30am i should goto bed |
12:28.20 | keiss | evl: http://files.filefront.com/Archimonde+2008+03+05avi/;9776443;/fileinfoc.html |
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12:34.46 | Fisker- | giev starcraft 2 beta :< |
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12:35.27 | Fisker- | you don't have trash after the 4th boss right? |
12:35.38 | keiss | no |
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12:37.15 | Fisker- | awsum |
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12:44.02 | Grum | keiss: it seems that the raid gets 0 flames like that |
12:45.02 | keiss | Grum: yes, only 1 flame on the full on the grass , and the melee has to be a bit cautious , a minor disadvantage is that the MT sometimes stands in 3 flames at the same time , but since theres almost no raid healing u can put all healers on him ... |
12:45.10 | keiss | s/full/pull/ |
12:45.49 | Grum | that is creative abuse of game mechanics |
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12:51.12 | keiss | Grum: we are aware that thats not how blizzard 'meant' it ... but its a sure 1shot so ... 5/5 4/9 in 3.5hrs ftw :) |
12:51.39 | Grum | i almost read 9/9 there |
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12:59.54 | Fisker- | man |
12:59.58 | Fisker- | archimonde looks too easy |
13:00.13 | [Ammo] | the idea is easy |
13:00.18 | [Ammo] | now to get 25 non retards in 1 raid :) |
13:00.20 | keiss | it looks , but it can get frustrating :) |
13:00.27 | keiss | what ammo said :D |
13:00.40 | [Ammo] | if you're not experienced in the fight then 1 death is almost certain wipe |
13:00.58 | Fisker- | well |
13:01.01 | Fisker- | that's kinda like vashj |
13:01.06 | [Ammo] | no |
13:01.12 | keiss | nah ... u can loose 2-3 ppl there |
13:01.24 | [Ammo] | lose one on archimonde -> 4k raid damage |
13:01.34 | Fisker- | perhaps if you're stupidly overgeared |
13:01.37 | [Ammo] | lose one more -> another 4k |
13:01.41 | Fisker- | yeah i know |
13:01.44 | [Ammo] | it's a chain reaction |
13:01.50 | [Ammo] | at vashj yuo can lose 2-3 easily |
13:01.58 | [Ammo] | even without outgearing the fight |
13:02.01 | keiss | not to mention u can get silenced from it (dont remember which classes) |
13:02.16 | Elsia | it's more like vael. you can survive one soul charge, and once recovered another, but it's certainly a real strain. and the silence one almost guarantees a wipe |
13:02.28 | thul | veal meat. |
13:02.29 | thul | :-D |
13:02.34 | Fisker- | vael? |
13:02.36 | Elkano | bored? http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1770138 |
13:02.51 | Fisker- | OWLD |
13:03.04 | Fisker- | btw |
13:03.07 | Elkano | I know... still good ^^ |
13:03.23 | Fisker- | does he keep the spell or will a combat ress remove it? |
13:03.26 | baer_ | *lol* |
13:03.38 | keiss | Fisker-: keeps |
13:03.42 | Fisker- | alright |
13:04.00 | baer_ | btw, Fisker-: archimonde IS easy (if no one dies). |
13:04.40 | Fisker- | so basically he just fears, do flames and throw people in the air if noone dies? |
13:04.43 | baer_ | you don't need brutal dps at least & the pvp insignia help a lot to break fears. |
13:04.50 | sica | Fisker-: yep |
13:04.55 | baer_ | Fisker-: right. |
13:05.04 | baer_ | sounds easy, but needs training. |
13:05.14 | keiss | no room for error |
13:05.27 | sica | as ranged-dps, it's like avoid flames > avoid being feared into flames > (dispelling) > damage |
13:05.42 | baer_ | yep. |
13:05.43 | Bruners | !rating 1465 |
13:05.43 | Xinhuan | 1465 rating gives 336(5s), 295(3s) and 255(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
13:06.14 | Bruners | !rating 1622 |
13:06.15 | Xinhuan | 1622 rating gives 494(5s), 435(3s) and 376(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
13:06.51 | baer_ | sica: i would suggest: avoid being feared into flames > avoid flames > ... |
13:07.15 | baer_ | since it's easier to position before the fear. |
13:07.19 | sica | baer_: yeah, okay, that's true |
13:07.33 | durcyn | more like "kick the bads out of the raid, win" |
13:08.16 | sica | it all comes down to - move, don't suck, win |
13:08.25 | baer_ | yes |
13:08.41 | keiss | lets not forget airburst ... and ... 'ooops , lag' |
13:08.51 | harldephin | is baseMip obsolete? |
13:08.52 | baer_ | Fisker-: you are asking because the first day at archimonde comes close? |
13:09.09 | harldephin | or what's the difference between baseMip "0" and baseMip "1" |
13:09.40 | baer_ | keiss: *grr* you are absolutely right - many players experience a lag-phenomena when being throwed into the air. |
13:10.00 | baer_ | but talking about dps: http://wowwebstats.com/us1fkthan1xzs?s=11164-11527 |
13:10.01 | sica | yeah, it's ALWAYS lag |
13:10.17 | baer_ | it's not a dps-fight, the boss simply got a 10mins enrage timer. :-D |
13:10.19 | Fisker- | yeah baer_ :P |
13:10.21 | [Ammo] | 'oops I hit my whatever the fuck key instead of the tear of the godess' |
13:10.27 | Fisker- | might take a look at him this tuesday |
13:10.29 | baer_ | Fisker-: take a look at the wws. |
13:10.42 | baer_ | we had our firstkill last week. |
13:11.15 | baer_ | it took pretty long to explain ppl NOT running full dps and let 'em simply reposition instead of dps'ing. |
13:12.19 | Fisker- | for flames or what? |
13:12.37 | [Ammo] | yeah flames + fear can be a killer |
13:12.40 | baer_ | yup, as stated before "not dying > ALL" |
13:12.42 | [Ammo] | dps is not an issue at all |
13:12.53 | [Ammo] | yuo can do this boss in your blue dungeon set |
13:12.56 | [Ammo] | (apart frmo the tank) |
13:12.58 | Fisker- | yeah only 4,7m hp |
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13:13.10 | sica | yeah, it's much easier if ranged-dps avoids being feared into flames at all, too much group damage can wipe you here |
13:13.11 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: HP helps too =P |
13:13.12 | baer_ | we killed that guy in 6:03 mins without anyone running more than 60% of his/her normal rotation. |
13:13.19 | Fisker- | how much damage does the fire do? |
13:13.43 | sica | ~1,5k every 2s |
13:13.47 | [Ammo] | more :) |
13:13.51 | [Ammo] | first tick is 2400 |
13:13.54 | [Ammo] | second tick 2200 |
13:13.57 | [Ammo] | third tick 2000 |
13:13.58 | [Ammo] | etc |
13:13.59 | [Ammo] | approx |
13:14.09 | baer_ | way tooo much to heal more than mt & 2 or 3 players |
13:14.12 | [Ammo] | so intial burst is high and then it becomes less |
13:14.33 | kenlyric | 300 first aid book is BoP? |
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13:14.58 | sica | kenlyric: uhm, no |
13:15.01 | Fisker- | wasn't in the beginning atleast |
13:15.03 | kenlyric | sweeet |
13:15.18 | sica | just checked on wowhead, still isn't |
13:16.15 | kenlyric | gotta love skills. 300 first aid. 300 skinning. 170 mining |
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13:17.12 | kenlyric | shit, triage is gone in 2.4? |
13:17.19 | kenlyric | fucking casuals |
13:17.43 | baer_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rb8aOzy9t4 |
13:18.39 | Fisker- | lets whine kenlyric |
13:18.49 | kenlyric | triage is fun |
13:18.53 | kenlyric | books are boring |
13:19.04 | Fisker- | least they can do is to remove the stupid fishing quest for 225-300 skill |
13:19.06 | Fisker- | I HAET IT |
13:19.07 | kenlyric | now, getting rid of the 300 fishing quest would be awesome |
13:19.16 | Fisker- | cause you have to fish for HOURS with no skill gains |
13:19.17 | kenlyric | SEE SYNERGY |
13:19.18 | Bruners | haha |
13:19.48 | keiss | Fisker-: you get to meet Nat Pagle ... how can you hate it ? :) |
13:20.02 | kenlyric | in my guild bank: 7 copies of "gift of the wild" |
13:20.18 | Fisker- | That i have to fish for a billion years without having any chance to gain skillpoints |
13:20.21 | kenlyric | pretty sure they get that from trainers now |
13:20.35 | Fisker- | if i could get skillpoints then that would be awesome |
13:20.50 | keiss | ive done it so long ago ... dont remember |
13:20.51 | kenlyric | like let you get it at 200, like all other professions |
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14:03.18 | Snago | lol http://www.wowace.com/wiki/User:HunterOfWhelps |
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14:06.15 | baer_ | anyone knows a good (&free) web-platform for publishing hd-movies ? |
14:06.50 | kagaro | apache? or you want streaming stuff in it ? |
14:07.38 | baer_ | actually i want to upload my guilds gameplay videos in bt & mh; did that on stage6.com before... |
14:07.38 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow * r64136 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/frFR.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0: frFR Update |
14:07.53 | baer_ | and i don't want to host by myself. :o) |
14:08.28 | kagaro | you tube? |
14:08.51 | kagaro | it supports hd movies |
14:09.04 | baer_ | kagaro: are you sure? |
14:09.27 | kagaro | they added the support for it i thought, i watch high quality youtube at times on my apple tv |
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14:10.21 | kagaro | go take a look baer_ |
14:10.23 | kenlyric | lol |
14:10.32 | baer_ | hmm... the uploads seem to be limited to 10 mins and/or 1024mb. |
14:10.34 | kenlyric | tourguide just had me fly to grom'gol then booty bay |
14:10.44 | baer_ | just log'ed into my youtube-account. |
14:10.54 | kenlyric | guess it wanted me to see the grom'gol scenery? |
14:11.20 | sica | baer_: filefront.com |
14:11.35 | baer_ | sica: is it free? |
14:11.48 | sica | yeah |
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14:12.54 | baer_ | i don't see a catch, where is it? :) |
14:13.15 | sica | download-speed is not the fastest |
14:13.52 | sica | maybe it's just me, but I never get more than 100kb/s from filefront servers |
14:14.39 | baer_ | wow, seems great to me. uploading with 3,3Mbps |
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14:16.51 | baer_ | sica: seems to be a local problem to you then... currently downloading with ~4MB/s |
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14:17.21 | sica | :( |
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14:18.20 | baer_ | maybe some local dsl issue? :-} |
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14:19.04 | sica | yeah, maybe, stupid Deutsche Telekom >.< |
14:19.04 | baer_ | god, i'll hate it - since beginning of april i'll have a dsl lite-connection -.- |
14:19.14 | baer_ | *hehe* t-online ftw. |
14:19.30 | Industrial | 25mbit down 2.5 up :p |
14:19.49 | sica | 2mbit down, 192kbit up, yay :( |
14:19.54 | kenlyric | MORE PORN |
14:20.00 | Industrial | ^^ |
14:20.02 | baer_ | 384kbit down+up. -.- |
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14:20.06 | Industrial | anime atually but.. |
14:20.21 | kenlyric | my roommate tries to make gaming argument for upgrading from 6mbps to 12 mbps |
14:20.26 | baer_ | whatev; pr0n is pr0n! |
14:20.35 | kenlyric | nothing but porn requires that speed. |
14:20.57 | sica | sooner or later, you'll realize, porn is boring and not worth downloading |
14:21.00 | baer_ | so, where's the problem? |
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14:21.48 | ReAn | k, i've never used Ace before, I did some wow ui programming back in the day w/ the standard lua/xml stuff, can someone tell me why the hell no grid mods i find have any .xml other than embeds? how exactly does one make visual ui elements with Ace2, is there some kind of magic im missing, plz dont hurt me... it's 8am and i havent slept yet >_< |
14:22.15 | JY` | kenlyric: my roommate is sucking 150GB / month with anime |
14:22.20 | vhaarr | Ace2 doesn't help you with UI programming |
14:22.23 | Snago | you can make frames with lua these days |
14:22.25 | JY` | actually hes watching anime all day long |
14:22.33 | vhaarr | ReAn: CreateFrame is the new XML |
14:22.38 | kenlyric | anime, porn, same thing. |
14:22.54 | ReAn | i see... |
14:23.44 | ReAn | i think my head is about to explode :( |
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14:25.09 | vhaarr | ReAn: Note that you can still use XML, just like before. |
14:25.18 | vhaarr | so you don't have to relearn anything |
14:25.37 | ReAn | well i've made the jump into Ace, so i might as well learn new stuff |
14:25.47 | ReAn | im sure there's a reason CreateFrame is better than old XML |
14:25.49 | vhaarr | Ace2 has nothing to do with UI |
14:25.52 | ReAn | i know |
14:26.14 | vhaarr | WoW's UI XML parsing used to be dread slow |
14:26.20 | vhaarr | around the times CreateFrame was introduced |
14:26.23 | vhaarr | but it's better now |
14:26.38 | nevcairiel | its mainly only a matter of personal preference if you use XML or CreateFrame |
14:26.40 | vhaarr | you can create anonymous frames with CreateFrame |
14:26.42 | vhaarr | indeed |
14:27.22 | ReAn | AceOO is a good library to use to build "Classes" that can represent visual elements right? |
14:27.34 | nevcairiel | no |
14:27.38 | nevcairiel | its not a good library |
14:27.40 | vhaarr | you should forget about aceoo, you don't need it |
14:27.45 | ReAn | lol |
14:27.53 | ReAn | What's wrong w/ AceOO |
14:28.00 | nevcairiel | its not needed |
14:28.07 | nevcairiel | use a simple metatable for inheritance |
14:34.42 | evl | metatables are voodoo |
14:36.10 | Grum | nothing wrong with metatable oo .. but its a bit .. well .. scary :D |
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14:37.50 | nevcairiel | its the same thing with AceOO, you just get a API on top of it |
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14:38.29 | CIA-9 | - UTF8. |
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14:42.42 | Zorkmid | Does anyone here play WoW ? |
14:42.56 | Chompers | WoW? |
14:43.05 | Zorkmid | World of Warcraft |
14:43.18 | nevcairiel | Whats World of Warcraft? |
14:43.20 | Chompers | is that a linux distro? |
14:43.34 | Zorkmid | its the reason my cuz is fat and mooching off me :P |
14:43.54 | nevcairiel | Ohh that |
14:44.16 | evl | Zorkmid: Or you could stop force-feeding him cheese doodles like a god damn animal? |
14:44.41 | Zorkmid | haha |
14:47.22 | Zorkmid | How can I get an account banned ? |
14:47.53 | nevcairiel | your own? |
14:48.03 | Zorkmid | yea |
14:48.17 | evl | Sounds like your own since you want to get it banned and not frozen |
14:48.24 | Zorkmid | frozen ? |
14:48.31 | evl | You can freeze it in account management |
14:48.37 | evl | Or set parental locks? |
14:48.45 | sica | go into alterac valley and start telling stories about the holocaust and how funny you think it is |
14:49.01 | Zorkmid | evl, I did all that and he undoes them somehow |
14:49.04 | nevcairiel | contact a GM for some stupid reason, then insult him alot |
14:49.10 | evl | Zorkmid: You cannot undo parental controls on an account. |
14:49.18 | Zorkmid | trust me |
14:49.22 | evl | Zorkmid: But here's a new idea for bringing up children, talk to them? |
14:49.29 | Zorkmid | hes not a child |
14:49.31 | Zorkmid | and he wont listen |
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14:49.43 | Chompers | do you pay for it? |
14:49.56 | Zorkmid | no, but I pay for his food and shelter |
14:49.57 | nevcairiel | anyway, you cannot remove parental controls unless you know the parental password |
14:49.59 | Chompers | if so, cancell the payment on the card |
14:50.07 | evl | Cancel his food and shelter? |
14:50.15 | Zorkmid | haha |
14:50.18 | evl | Seems like you are avoiding a pretty basic problem here |
14:50.22 | Zorkmid | his mom and dad wouldnt like that |
14:50.34 | Zorkmid | I tell him all the time |
14:50.35 | evl | Then tell them he's sucked into a evil world filled with demons and ZOMGs |
14:50.37 | Zorkmid | he wont fucking stop |
14:50.53 | Zorkmid | can one of you guys log on his thing and get it banned ? |
14:51.03 | nevcairiel | just delete his char |
14:51.05 | nevcairiel | or something |
14:51.07 | evl | Okay, here's another idea; if he's this addicted, what do you think the first thing he would do after getting banned would be? |
14:51.19 | evl | Yes, he would get another account |
14:51.23 | Zorkmid | try and make a new |
14:51.29 | Zorkmid | dont they ban his IP ? |
14:51.32 | evl | No |
14:51.32 | nevcairiel | no |
14:51.45 | evl | He can create as many accounts as he wants as long as he has money |
14:51.49 | evl | But throw his ass out? |
14:51.52 | evl | And tell his parents? |
14:52.01 | sica | you could get him a therapist |
14:52.01 | Zorkmid | his parents know |
14:52.11 | evl | Tell them to fix it? |
14:52.12 | evl | They made him? |
14:52.13 | Zorkmid | fuck therapy, just get a life. |
14:52.31 | Chompers | why does it matter if he plays? |
14:52.39 | Zorkmid | cuz its ALL he does |
14:52.48 | Zorkmid | hes stinking up my fucking apartment |
14:52.49 | genetik | so? |
14:52.53 | genetik | kick him out if you don't like it |
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14:53.01 | genetik | [10:50] < evl> Seems like you are avoiding a pretty basic problem here |
14:53.01 | Zorkmid | he's family |
14:53.04 | Zorkmid | and hes broke |
14:53.22 | Zorkmid | all he has is a laptop and a WoW account |
14:53.23 | evl | And if he stopped playing wow and started knitting that would solve what problem? |
14:53.25 | Zorkmid | and some socks |
14:53.38 | evl | Nothing, it would solve nothing |
14:53.47 | evl | He'd find some other game, bla bla |
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14:53.52 | Zorkmid | evl, I doubt he'll do anything else until he stops playing |
14:54.07 | Zorkmid | WoW doesnt count as a game |
14:54.22 | nevcairiel | force him to sell his account and laptop, then he isnt broke anymore .) |
14:54.25 | evl | ;) |
14:54.30 | Zorkmid | haha |
14:54.32 | Zorkmid | force ? |
14:54.37 | nevcairiel | sell for him |
14:54.38 | nevcairiel | or so |
14:54.44 | Zorkmid | I cant force anything |
14:54.50 | evl | lol? |
14:54.56 | Zorkmid | hes a 300 pounder |
14:54.56 | evl | It's your god damn appartment? |
14:55.04 | Zorkmid | I know |
14:55.10 | evl | What kind of parents are these? |
14:55.10 | Zorkmid | But I owe his parents |
14:55.12 | evl | (no offense) |
14:55.28 | Zorkmid | parents that are sick of a lazy ass unemployed 23 year old I guess |
14:55.32 | Zorkmid | I dont blame them |
14:55.49 | evl | So they transferred their problem over to you |
14:56.01 | Zorkmid | sort of |
14:56.03 | evl | Sounds like you lose :) |
14:56.14 | Zorkmid | so WoW wont ban him eh |
14:56.21 | Zorkmid | can my ISP ban warcraft ? |
14:56.25 | evl | No |
14:56.39 | sica | close the ports for WoW on your internet router? |
14:56.43 | Zorkmid | they cant just block the port like I did thru my router ? |
14:56.54 | evl | sica: any 23 year old kid can work around that in 15 mins |
14:57.02 | Zorkmid | Ive done that, but he just resets the router when I go to work |
14:57.04 | evl | Shut off your internet? |
14:57.25 | Zorkmid | he'd be like, I need the net to jobsearch ! |
14:57.35 | genetik | seriously.. if you have that much of a problem with his lifestyle, just kick him out |
14:57.38 | sica | -.- |
14:57.40 | evl | Agreed |
14:57.50 | genetik | family or not, it's not your problem |
14:57.53 | Zorkmid | I dont mind the kid, I just want him off crack |
14:58.01 | evl | If he wants to job search he can use some library comp |
14:58.24 | evl | Or if he wants to play WoW he can play somewhere else |
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14:59.07 | evl | I'd say cutting your net access at home would either stop him from playing or get him to move out |
14:59.09 | Zorkmid | well, his story for the record: Professional lacrosse player to 300 pound slob in under one year of WoW. |
14:59.09 | evl | You win anywya :D |
14:59.13 | Zorkmid | :( |
14:59.14 | Zorkmid | bye |
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15:03.12 | Zorkmid | anyone want a free WoW account ? |
15:03.25 | Chaud | I wish =( |
15:03.46 | Chaud | Waiting to reactivate till wednesday |
15:04.39 | Chaud | why not just sell the account? |
15:04.53 | Zorkmid | Im selling it now |
15:04.55 | Zorkmid | for free |
15:05.04 | Chaud | get money for it from the chinamen 0o |
15:05.12 | Zorkmid | nah |
15:05.40 | sica | just change the password and freeze it |
15:05.50 | Zorkmid | I dont wanna do it myself |
15:05.59 | Zorkmid | I wanna pass it off like someone stole it |
15:06.12 | Chaud | rofl |
15:06.49 | nevcairiel | login, sell all items, and give the gold to some random person |
15:06.57 | nevcairiel | thats how account look when they got hacked |
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15:07.08 | Ordog | yeah screw the random person! |
15:07.10 | Ordog | ;P |
15:07.28 | Chaud | give the gold to me kthx, I can be random =p |
15:07.39 | Zorkmid | chaud |
15:07.40 | Zorkmid | take it |
15:07.47 | Zorkmid | Craiger37/bellies37 |
15:07.53 | Chaud | I would feel bad screwing him over =\ |
15:08.05 | Zorkmid | but you'd still do it right |
15:08.10 | nevcairiel | lol |
15:08.18 | sica | I really doubt that will get his lazy ass up... |
15:08.22 | Chompers | this sounds so suspect |
15:08.33 | Chaud | of course |
15:08.36 | Zorkmid | i dont care sica |
15:08.39 | Chaud | but I would have to open a proxy =\ |
15:08.48 | Ordog | if you dont complain about it nobody would bother looking into the logs |
15:08.51 | Chaud | *program |
15:09.19 | Zorkmid | anyone ever had an account stolen ? |
15:09.21 | ReAn | is there a windows-based BLP viewer? |
15:09.58 | sica | actually I doubt you can be busted for deleting everything from this account, you didn't hack the password or something, there's nothing illegal about it |
15:10.09 | Zorkmid | anyone ever had an account stolen ? |
15:10.29 | Chaud | I'm just going to proxy it and see whats there |
15:10.39 | sica | no, I don't share my password with anyone :) |
15:10.40 | Chaud | reactivating tomorrow, dont want to compromise my account =p |
15:10.48 | Chaud | err, wednesday =\ |
15:10.52 | Chaud | I keep forgetting today is monday |
15:11.01 | Ordog | ReAn google knows! :) and blizz released its own tool for that anyway |
15:11.06 | Stanzilla | no lvl 70 char :( |
15:11.40 | Ordog | XnView is said to handle them fine too |
15:11.41 | ReAn | Ordog: really? |
15:11.43 | Chaud | no BC or ? |
15:12.03 | ReAn | btw: google points me to MAC answers |
15:13.09 | genetik | Mac |
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15:13.48 | Chaud | Payment on this account has been canceled‚ however this account can be used for playing until the current subscripton period ends |
15:14.49 | Stanzilla | lol |
15:14.54 | Stanzilla | guild bank is full of greens |
15:14.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
15:15.07 | Stanzilla | 2 tabs full of greens |
15:15.18 | Fisker- | There's no permissions for players being able to edit their own notes right? |
15:15.24 | Chaud | so trash accnt? |
15:15.25 | Fisker- | Only a permission for editing all notes? |
15:15.25 | Ordog | ReAn check http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools.php and http://www.wc3campaigns.net/resources.php?f=617 |
15:15.26 | Stanzilla | and 8 slot bags |
15:15.27 | Stanzilla | lawl |
15:15.34 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: right |
15:15.53 | Stanzilla | and the lvl 60 has 10 gold |
15:15.56 | Stanzilla | awesome.. |
15:15.58 | Chaud | rofl |
15:16.18 | Chaud | that guy still in here? |
15:16.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
15:16.24 | nevcairiel | no he left |
15:16.30 | Chaud | Canada |
15:16.39 | Stanzilla | 35 now |
15:16.41 | Stanzilla | he had mail :D |
15:16.56 | Chaud | zomg maybe it has 10k gold |
15:17.29 | Stanzilla | let's write the char an ingame mail |
15:17.37 | Chaud | rofl |
15:17.43 | baer_ | *lol* |
15:18.21 | Chaud | wtf |
15:18.22 | Chaud | |
15:18.22 | Chaud | |
15:18.22 | Chaud | You must log your account out of the game to continue. |
15:18.33 | Chaud | =\ stupid copy/paste fail |
15:18.34 | nevcairiel | what did you do? |
15:18.51 | Chaud | paid name change |
15:19.10 | Chaud | wont work though, no CC on accnt |
15:19.25 | nevcairiel | maybe that guy cancelled the account |
15:19.28 | nevcairiel | or something |
15:19.43 | Chaud | yeah, it was canceled when I logged in |
15:19.50 | Stanzilla | if this guy really plays WoW all the time |
15:19.54 | Stanzilla | what the hell is he doing? |
15:19.58 | Chaud | December 14, 2007 1:35 PM PST |
15:20.02 | Chaud | account creation date |
15:20.12 | Chaud | how do you not get 70 by now |
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15:20.15 | Chaud | it is a BC enabled account |
15:20.15 | Xinhuan | wait someone gave his account away? |
15:20.20 | Chaud | yeah |
15:20.24 | Chaud | you cant have it =| |
15:20.32 | Xinhuan | what server |
15:20.41 | Chaud | it is 60 and like in trash gear |
15:20.45 | Chaud | with 10g |
15:21.06 | Chaud | I can post on the forums with it =) |
15:21.12 | Stanzilla | 35g please.. |
15:21.14 | Stanzilla | he had mail :P |
15:21.19 | nevcairiel | hahah |
15:21.21 | genetik | "so sex the girl!" |
15:21.36 | Chaud | check his friends list |
15:21.49 | sica | if he didn't even hit 70, he will just create a new account and start over ;) |
15:22.00 | EvilJohn | wait |
15:22.11 | EvilJohn | is this the "profesional wow player"'s account? |
15:22.14 | EvilJohn | I smell a rat |
15:22.20 | Chaud | yes |
15:22.43 | Stanzilla | lool |
15:22.49 | Stanzilla | "GinnyPotter" is on his friends list |
15:22.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
15:22.55 | EvilJohn | heh |
15:23.11 | Stanzilla | and Mr. "herryniples" |
15:23.11 | EvilJohn | that's just so wow |
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15:23.19 | sica | lol |
15:23.24 | genetik | EvilJohn: i smell a wumpus |
15:23.33 | Stanzilla | and "priestgirl" for sure.. |
15:23.40 | genetik | elfwarrior |
15:23.42 | Chaud | lol |
15:23.46 | EvilJohn | heh |
15:23.52 | Chaud | he has like 15 characters |
15:24.02 | Stanzilla | the guildmaster is lvl 56 |
15:24.06 | EvilJohn | darknight the warlock? |
15:24.19 | Stanzilla | nah |
15:24.21 | Stanzilla | Silverace |
15:24.24 | Stanzilla | the warrior |
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15:24.43 | Chompers | has anyone read 'the road' by cormac mccarthy? |
15:25.11 | Chompers | i just reached the bandit camp place, where they pry open the locked door...jesus christ |
15:25.19 | Chaud | anggar the rogue, beaststlker the hunter, cpr the shammy, dusk the mage, duskkiller rogue, duskknight warrior, duskwalker pally, nightstlker the druid, rockuza hunter, snowstlker the hunter |
15:25.33 | Chaud | he has a problem coming up with new names |
15:25.54 | EvilJohn | anger management problems |
15:25.55 | genetik | beaststlker |
15:25.55 | Stanzilla | yup^^ |
15:25.56 | genetik | classic |
15:26.07 | EvilJohn | I'm going to roll one of those right now |
15:26.10 | EvilJohn | you know |
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15:26.20 | genetik | EvilJohn: rename linas |
15:26.20 | Chaud | he has a 60, 40, and some 20s |
15:26.28 | Chaud | since dec. |
15:26.30 | EvilJohn | we could all log into the account one at a time, and it locked for account sharing |
15:26.42 | Stanzilla | *autosorts his inventory* |
15:26.42 | Chaud | use a proxy |
15:26.45 | EvilJohn | rename linas? never! |
15:26.46 | baer_ | someone here knows a nifty alternative to "adobe aftereffects" ? |
15:27.14 | haste | depends on what you use it for |
15:27.33 | baer_ | actually i want to use it to make some nice intros to my guild videos. |
15:27.43 | haste | then I don't know |
15:27.55 | EvilJohn | though I still think Toothdk is the best name for a Death Knight |
15:28.46 | Chaud | ....urbadk. |
15:28.51 | baer_ | BootsDK is the best name. ^^ |
15:29.01 | baer_ | or simply "tito" |
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15:31.33 | Miyari | Anyone around that can identify what generated my newly acquired tiny box after updating my addons: http://www.nordrassil.org/mysterybox.jpg ? |
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15:32.34 | EvilJohn | no idea |
15:32.37 | [Ammo] | Grid? |
15:32.53 | EvilJohn | doesn't it put you in it by default? |
15:33.04 | Miyari | Not Grid |
15:33.36 | Chaud | on april fools day people should upload versions of their addons that make random boxes / things go wrong on peoples UI |
15:33.40 | Miyari | I just disabled Grid I'm going to relog and see if it's still sticking around. I can hold down left mouse and drag it around. |
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15:33.45 | Miyari | LOL |
15:33.46 | Chaud | or just any day in general |
15:33.52 | Miyari | yes. |
15:34.17 | Miyari | It'd be like Naxxramas days all over again :P |
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15:34.36 | Miyari | </3 having to totally switch raid frames in the middle of a raid. |
15:35.52 | Miyari | Aw, I relogged and thought it was gone only to realize it recented itself and I couldn't tell because I'm in shadowform and didn't see it. :( |
15:36.13 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: ^^ |
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15:37.44 | Stanzilla | nice guild you have there, Xinhuan :P |
15:37.46 | Xinhuan | stan |
15:37.47 | Xinhuan | since when |
15:37.49 | Stanzilla | yup |
15:38.06 | Xinhuan | can a euro client log on a us one, just changing the realmlist.wtf works? |
15:38.16 | Stanzilla | yeah that works |
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15:39.45 | Xinhuan | i completed 5/5 t6 today hehe |
15:39.51 | Xinhuan | BUT NO SPINELS |
15:40.01 | Miyari | :( |
15:40.12 | Chaud | I completed today's physics class today. |
15:40.22 | Miyari | No spinels there, either? |
15:40.37 | Miyari | Physics class probably has a better droprate than BT/Hyjal combined. |
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15:40.58 | Xinhuan | its ok |
15:41.01 | Xinhuan | next patch |
15:41.04 | Miyari | save your badges ^^ |
15:41.15 | Xinhuan | karazhan will drop 15 gauranteed spinels |
15:41.17 | Miyari | I'll be pissed if I end up having to use badges on spinels lol |
15:41.36 | Xinhuan | go read risen website hehe |
15:41.45 | EvilJohn | i did read that |
15:41.46 | Xinhuan | i have some 450 of them badges |
15:41.58 | Chaud | wtf |
15:42.01 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: I'm on teh way to your guild bank! watch out! :P |
15:42.04 | EvilJohn | i think they've got a valid point about some things, but a lot of it is qq |
15:42.10 | Xinhuan | initiates can't see guild bank Stanzilla :D |
15:42.36 | Miyari | lol |
15:42.40 | Miyari | i think i remember reading like |
15:42.43 | Miyari | the exact same bitchfit |
15:42.52 | Miyari | barely weeks after BT came out? |
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15:43.02 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r64142 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua: !BugGrabber: deDE update |
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15:43.05 | Xinhuan | i like the |
15:43.14 | Xinhuan | 10 spinels > 9 emerald + 1 lionseye |
15:43.19 | Xinhuan | comparison |
15:43.42 | Miyari | haha |
15:43.43 | Miyari | that reminds me |
15:43.54 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: :( promote me! |
15:44.27 | Miyari | http://www.nordrassil.org/NOMNOM.jpg |
15:44.35 | Miyari | Xinhuan: What emeralds! |
15:44.38 | Miyari | :/ |
15:44.51 | Xinhuan | the gem that i have some 50+ off |
15:44.54 | Xinhuan | of* |
15:44.56 | Xinhuan | in the bank |
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15:45.09 | Chaud | wtf gold |
15:45.26 | Miyari | the one we have 171+ of in ours :/ |
15:45.31 | Miyari | ss is weeks old |
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15:45.53 | Xinhuan | AND NO SPINELS |
15:46.00 | Miyari | lol |
15:46.07 | Miyari | there's actually 12 in that ss i hear its none now though |
15:46.10 | Miyari | i know i scored 3 over the past month |
15:46.26 | ramoz | [Ammo]: i get a nil error from SmoothQuest |
15:46.35 | ramoz | at line 174 |
15:47.22 | [Ammo] | oh |
15:47.25 | [Ammo] | when does that happen |
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15:48.00 | Xinhuan | it happens when line 173 gets executed |
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15:48.32 | [Ammo] | nice one Xin |
15:48.39 | Xinhuan | :) |
15:49.14 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64143 10SmoothQuest/SmoothQuest.lua: SmoothQuest: guard against nil numNeeded |
15:49.15 | [Ammo] | try that Ramoz --^ |
15:49.38 | ramoz | [Ammo]: at login and when i brows quests |
15:49.38 | ramoz | will do |
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15:51.26 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: I donated 3x [Tough Jerky] to your guild bank! |
15:51.31 | Xinhuan | lol |
15:52.08 | [Ammo] | ramoz: happen to have a reputation quest in your log? |
15:52.38 | ramoz | yes |
15:52.47 | ramoz | still missing 300 rep for scales of sand =( |
15:53.08 | [Ammo] | ah yeah |
15:53.10 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64144 10SmoothQuest/SmoothQuest.lua: SmoothQuest: bugfix |
15:53.11 | [Ammo] | that might be it :) |
15:53.57 | [Ammo] | I'll check on my warlock later on, should have afaction quest there |
15:56.57 | ReAn | can i add variables to Frames i create? or am i just on crack? |
15:57.09 | haste | frames are just metatables |
15:57.10 | haste | so yes |
15:57.44 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64145 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
15:57.44 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
15:57.44 | CIA-9 | - update loottables to externalize some mob's text to contant, update de and zh-tw translation |
15:57.54 | ReAn | so if i go f = CreateFrame("Button"..........); and then go f.myVar = 3; inside a script for that button i can call self.myVar and get 3? |
15:58.11 | Zeksie | yes |
15:58.16 | ReAn | hot |
15:58.48 | Stanzilla | oh noes |
15:58.55 | Stanzilla | someone changed the password :( |
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16:00.52 | Chaud | =\ |
16:00.58 | Chaud | I was thinking about it earlier |
16:01.00 | Xinhuan | aww is that why i went offline |
16:01.06 | Xinhuan | u* |
16:01.25 | Xinhuan | was about to trade you 88k gold ;p |
16:01.38 | Stanzilla | :D |
16:02.43 | Stanzilla | well you can still do that on the PTR :P |
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16:05.05 | Xinhuan | us ptr ~= eu ptr |
16:05.18 | Stanzilla | I can go to the us ptr, too |
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16:05.32 | Xinhuan | but you can't copy there ;p |
16:05.33 | Stanzilla | with my awesome lvl 1 char! |
16:05.35 | Stanzilla | yeah |
16:05.35 | Stanzilla | :D |
16:05.55 | Xinhuan | it was funny |
16:06.00 | Xinhuan | cos i logged off to log on Xinmuletwo |
16:06.04 | Xinhuan | to mail myself some primals |
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16:07.23 | Chaud | I'm glad PTRs just update auth server every major patch or so =p |
16:07.23 | Chaud | TTR yesterday gave me something to do |
16:07.38 | Stanzilla | lol :P |
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16:14.15 | ramoz | slow svn =( |
16:15.11 | EvilJohn | is it possible to scale the size of the raid icons? |
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16:18.59 | Hjalte | Does anyone have experiences with the recent Forte Warlock? I suspected it of lowering my fps when I used it last, a couple of months back, but I might want to try it again. |
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16:21.08 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r64146 10Bartender4/Bartender4/ (5 files): Bartender4: set override bindings on Bar1, ShapeshiftBar, PetBar |
16:21.22 | Groktar | there's a bartender 4? |
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16:22.56 | Zorkmid | Nobody took my cuzs free account ! |
16:22.57 | Zorkmid | lol |
16:23.32 | Olison | Your what? |
16:23.43 | Stanzilla | Zorkmid: I played with it |
16:23.49 | Stanzilla | but someone changed the password |
16:24.06 | Groktar | there's no .toc file in it |
16:24.08 | Groktar | :( |
16:24.09 | Zorkmid | really ? |
16:24.13 | Stanzilla | yup |
16:24.17 | Zorkmid | you should have changed it |
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16:24.28 | Stanzilla | I'm not that mean :P |
16:24.31 | Zorkmid | my cuz prolly did |
16:25.21 | Chaud | rofl |
16:25.38 | Zorkmid | now wtf do I do |
16:25.40 | Zorkmid | :( |
16:25.40 | Chaud | So how does he only have a level 60 after so long |
16:25.44 | Matrix110 | you posted your cousins acc data here? |
16:25.45 | p3lim | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/128.jpg |
16:25.50 | p3lim | love that one |
16:26.05 | Zorkmid | yea |
16:26.12 | Zorkmid | Craiger37/bellies37 |
16:26.19 | Zorkmid | apparently its changed |
16:26.26 | Zorkmid | try provchamp or provchamps |
16:27.05 | Chaud | im still logged in to the accnt management of it |
16:27.30 | Zorkmid | lol |
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16:28.14 | Stanzilla | Zorkmid: not working :P |
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16:29.14 | zapl | p3lim: you killed that site :p gives 503 now |
16:29.26 | p3lim | hehe |
16:29.35 | p3lim | been puking 503's all day, too much load |
16:30.02 | p3lim | mmo-champ just put up a link, in all this 2.4 mess they have shown there is just too many viewers |
16:30.29 | Chaud | darn those guyz. |
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16:31.47 | chiper | ooo, new portals |
16:32.39 | Chaud | look at the videos |
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16:33.26 | CIA-9 | 03snago * r64147 10IHML/locales/ (4 files): |
16:33.26 | CIA-9 | IHML: |
16:33.26 | CIA-9 | - Note to self: Don't commit what you code at 7 am. |
16:33.51 | chiper | wtf... blink mana cost changed to 21% of mana? are you kidding me? |
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16:34.40 | Zorkmid | chaud? |
16:34.44 | Zorkmid | so what did ya do ? |
16:34.44 | nevcairiel | _base_ mana chiper |
16:35.08 | Xinhuan | base mana = naked mana |
16:35.18 | chiper | that still seems high |
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16:35.33 | Matrix110 | chiper its buffed its 16% atm |
16:35.38 | Matrix110 | *15 |
16:35.57 | Matrix110 | 2 weeks ago they wanted to reduce it to 212 |
16:36.08 | Matrix110 | and now buff it to almost 700 :D |
16:36.37 | harldephin | my Cartographer_Routes refuses to show routes on my minimap though it did show them until recently. |
16:36.42 | Chaud | couldnt do anything |
16:36.42 | chiper | thats not a buff, it's a nerf |
16:36.54 | Chaud | dont have a password to change it with |
16:36.56 | Matrix110 | the mana cost is buffed ;) :P |
16:37.22 | chiper | we arent trading stock here, higher cost is not better |
16:37.24 | Zorkmid | chaud? check ur PMs |
16:37.48 | Matrix110 | Higher=buffed mana cost went up = buffed even if its a Mage nerf :P |
16:38.05 | Matrix110 | just depends on the perspective :P |
16:38.07 | kergoth | i think you need a new definition of 'buffed' |
16:38.38 | harldephin | or maybe another word |
16:39.11 | harldephin | like "increased" or something. |
16:39.27 | Nandini | is thre an oRA module that lets you save a raid group configuration and then apply that group configuration inside a BG, for premades for example |
16:40.08 | Nandini | i've been using this addon called "Dopie's PvP Tracker" to do that, but it just occurred to me, oRA might be able to do that already and I just never figured out how |
16:40.21 | Matrix110 | nope |
16:40.31 | Matrix110 | and any Addon that can do that fails anyway |
16:40.44 | Nandini | it works as long as you set up the groups when you're not in combat |
16:40.52 | chiper | I dont get the random spawn thing they've put on the TTR |
16:40.59 | Matrix110 | i remember having this addon back in Naxx time that on use gave EVERYONE in the raid (even those without the addon) a 30sec freeze :D |
16:41.03 | chiper | is this just to balance the zone load? |
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16:41.43 | Nandini | yes and so ppl with low horsepower computers don't log in to a 1 fps nightmare |
16:42.12 | chiper | but the arena masters are still in the cities |
16:42.18 | Xinhuan | [3/11 00:36:34] <harldephin> my Cartographer_Routes refuses to show routes on my minimap though it did show them until recently. |
16:42.29 | Xinhuan | it sounds like you have a broken VanosKoS |
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16:42.41 | harldephin | a broken what? |
16:42.52 | cncfanatics | hello everyone |
16:42.58 | Xinhuan | a broken addon that affected routes |
16:43.34 | Nandini | Matrix110 this "Dopie's PvP Tracker" addon does a great job of saving and restoring multiple raid configs |
16:43.40 | harldephin | i don't know what VanosKoS is. i've got to disable and reenable Cartographer_Routes option to show its route on the minimap to have it do that everytime i logout and in again. |
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16:43.56 | Matrix110 | does it work for example in AV? |
16:43.57 | Xinhuan | do u have the fubar plugin installed for it |
16:44.09 | Matrix110 | i remember back in 40man raids those Addons caused insane problems in a full raid |
16:44.10 | Nandini | only if you are the leader in AV |
16:44.30 | Matrix110 | the mentioned 30sec for everybody in the raid because it moved like 1k people around.. |
16:44.34 | Nandini | but if you can manage to lightqueue your group into AV, it works |
16:44.40 | harldephin | Xinhuan: i've lost you. |
16:45.00 | Nandini | it rearranges 15 players for me in AB/EOTS in the blink of an eye |
16:45.02 | Xinhuan | in any case, Cartographer_Routes hasn't got any code changes or updates in the last 4 or so weeks |
16:45.17 | Xinhuan | so its something else you installed |
16:45.21 | Nandini | the one time i tried using it in AV, i had problems because people were still joining |
16:45.21 | harldephin | i realized that already. |
16:45.26 | cncfanatics | Sigh; I have to write a text about the dutch media |
16:45.27 | cncfanatics | fail |
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16:45.33 | Xinhuan | do yu have ROutes_Fu installed? |
16:45.34 | harldephin | i didn't install anything new in the last few weeks either. |
16:45.50 | harldephin | so i'm still where i was before. |
16:46.25 | Nandini | we ended up having ppl in combat before the entire raid entered, and things got all messed up |
16:46.41 | Nandini | so it probably isn't very practical for use in AV |
16:47.31 | ramoz | [Ammo]: working now - also i got a lvl 705 quest (might rename 5mans into something else?) |
16:48.03 | Nandini | 70g5 is a notation i've seen before |
16:48.04 | RaydenUni | you guys know of any sources saying that WoW uses a modified war3 engine? |
16:48.24 | CIA-9 | 03arith * r64148 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.tw.lua: |
16:48.24 | CIA-9 | AtlasLoot: |
16:48.24 | CIA-9 | - revised tw file to fix Sets not working in zhTW's problem |
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16:48.30 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni: how could wow ever use a modifier war3 engine , |
16:48.34 | cncfanatics | doesn't make much sense imho |
16:48.38 | RaydenUni | i thought it was built on it |
16:48.52 | cncfanatics | I doubt it is tbh, totaly different style of gfx |
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16:48.58 | Nandini | the rendering has nothing to do with wc3 |
16:49.01 | RaydenUni | it doesn't make a whole lot of sense but i heard it does |
16:49.19 | Chaud | I herd u liek mudkipz too. |
16:49.20 | Nandini | however, the blp texture format is borrowed, as is the archive format |
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16:49.43 | RaydenUni | i can't find anything on it |
16:49.46 | RaydenUni | maybe it was a rumor |
16:50.23 | kenlyric | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/news.html?sid=2810134 |
16:50.41 | kenlyric | The game is fully 3D, and its engine shares some elements with the proprietary engine developed for Warcraft III. |
16:50.57 | kenlyric | "shares some elements" has been translated into "uses the same engine" |
16:51.15 | cncfanatics | engine shares some elements with the proprietary engine developed for Warcraft III |
16:51.18 | cncfanatics | bullshit :p |
16:51.29 | kenlyric | <Nandini>however, the blp texture format is borrowed, as is the archive format |
16:51.35 | kenlyric | nandini disagrees with you |
16:51.36 | cncfanatics | that phrase doesn't mean its the same engine tbh |
16:51.41 | kenlyric | yes, I know |
16:51.46 | Nandini | i meant borrowed from wc3 |
16:51.50 | Nandini | and their earlier games |
16:51.53 | cncfanatics | I know it shares some elemnts ofc |
16:51.55 | kenlyric | but that's how people on WoW forums translate it :) |
16:52.05 | kenlyric | and that's how the rumor got started. |
16:52.41 | kenlyric | what I want to know is that is it true that launch +1day servers really ran on retired battle.net servers :) |
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16:52.53 | Nandini | mpq and blp are just proprietary formats blizzard had used effectively in the past and were still suitable for use in wow |
16:52.55 | kenlyric | because they had to find hardware fast. |
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16:53.17 | kenlyric | that's the rumor i've always enjoyed and found plausible because those servers sucked giant donkey balls |
16:55.07 | kenlyric | would buy more: "the player model becomes transparent when you mouse over so you can click through it to interact with the world. " |
16:55.34 | Nandini | in that gamespot article, it seems like they're saying the elements that are shared are the perspectives used by each engine's camera views |
16:55.45 | CIA-9 | 03snago * r64149 10IHML/locales/ (4 files): |
16:55.45 | CIA-9 | IHML: |
16:55.45 | CIA-9 | - Fix spelling + more Skettis subzones |
16:56.04 | kenlyric | snago what is it? |
16:56.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
16:56.09 | Nandini | actually if you zoom in through your character, it becomes transparent, so it's not a stretch to think that the earliest betas did that just on mouseover |
16:56.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Teleport: Theramore? oh boy! |
16:56.27 | kenlyric | I didn't think it was a rumor :) |
16:56.29 | kenlyric | I'm saying I want that now |
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16:56.45 | Snago | ~ihml |
16:56.45 | purl | I Have Macro Lol! An addon to automagically switch a macro depending on zone or BigWigs boss module. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/IHML |
16:56.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:55] <kenlyric> would buy more: "the player model becomes transparent when you mouse over so you can click through it to interact with the world. " <--which it did |
16:57.12 | kenlyric | ohhhh |
16:57.28 | sag_ich_nicht | also, the mouse code of WoW is a 1:1 ripoff from WC3 |
16:57.35 | [Ammo] | ramoz: it should be 70g5 |
16:57.39 | kenlyric | throw skettis bombs in skettis and ogri'la bombs in ogir'la, without the kudgy code. |
16:57.40 | sag_ich_nicht | (well, it WAS, it isn't now anymore) |
16:57.42 | [Ammo] | ramoz: but I'll figure it out |
16:57.54 | Nandini | wtb the deactivated CVAR that controls transparent player model on mouseover! |
16:58.11 | sag_ich_nicht | no cvar, it was completely removed very earlier in the game |
16:58.13 | sag_ich_nicht | it sucked |
16:58.36 | Nandini | blizzard so very rarely completely removes anything tho, they usually just find a way to turn it off permanently |
16:58.42 | Snago | kenlyric: yeah, mainly wrote it for the boss part though but automatic macros for the dailys was a welcome bonus :) |
16:59.24 | kenlyric | I have a cludgy "does everything" macro for dailies, but it fails completely if I have booterang or ogri'la bombing and try to do skettis bombing |
16:59.37 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r64150 10kgPanelsConfig/PanelHelper.lua: kgPanelsConfig: fixed a cut and paste typo |
16:59.47 | Fisker- | YAY |
16:59.49 | Fisker- | zerg site up |
16:59.50 | Fisker- | http://www.starcraft2.com/features/zerg/main.xml |
17:00.02 | Fisker- | kinda fail though :P |
17:00.06 | Nandini | it unit models can highlight on mouseover, i'm sure the engine can still make player models transparent on mouseover, if they would just turn on that option |
17:00.16 | kenlyric | when I see the word zerg, I think of buggers |
17:00.47 | Zeksie | mleh.. still no svn account. :( |
17:00.49 | kenlyric | oh, so it is a swarm |
17:01.37 | Chaud | SVN is for lulz |
17:02.35 | haste | git is superior! |
17:02.53 | Chaud | what addon could be causing massive lag when I enter combat on TTR |
17:04.11 | Xinhuan | a wow addon :) |
17:04.15 | Zeksie | heh |
17:04.23 | Zeksie | i was trying to think of a smart answer.. that's the one i was after |
17:04.35 | Chaud | I disabled parrot =\ |
17:04.44 | Xinhuan | zeksie did you see my other reply earlier |
17:04.50 | Zeksie | emm. prolly not |
17:05.05 | Xinhuan | [3/10 23:46:23] <ramoz> [Ammo]: i get a nil error from SmoothQuest |
17:05.06 | Xinhuan | [3/10 23:46:32] <ramoz> at line 174 |
17:05.11 | Xinhuan | [3/10 23:47:19] <@[Ammo]> oh when does that happen |
17:05.15 | Xinhuan | [3/10 23:47:57] <Xinhuan> it happens when line 173 gets executed |
17:05.44 | chiper | hehe |
17:05.51 | Zeksie | ok... what's that got to do with me tho? |
17:05.59 | Zeksie | oph... nm. i get it ;) |
17:05.59 | kergoth | smoothquest? |
17:06.19 | Zeksie | < being slow |
17:06.22 | Xinhuan | no, i don't know what it does hehe |
17:07.12 | NivFreak | so how do people who don't have fubar installed, and no minimap button turned on, get to the bigwigs config menus? |
17:07.35 | Xinhuan | /bigwigs |
17:07.43 | NivFreak | nope |
17:07.57 | NivFreak | at least, it doesn't pop up a window |
17:08.03 | Xinhuan | its command line |
17:08.05 | Xinhuan | and it works |
17:08.12 | NivFreak | I need an idiot proof way |
17:08.17 | kenlyric | it should output text |
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17:08.22 | kenlyric | you can read text, right? |
17:08.27 | chiper | <PROTECTED> |
17:08.28 | NivFreak | I couldn't get some people to turn on flash and shake last night |
17:08.31 | NivFreak | I can read fine |
17:08.35 | NivFreak | but there are some people who can't... |
17:08.38 | kenlyric | one of the texts will be "options" or "config" or "Window" |
17:08.45 | NivFreak | and how do you get bigwigs enabled without fubar? :P |
17:08.55 | p3lim | <PROTECTED> |
17:08.59 | chiper | it should enable on zonein |
17:09.12 | kenlyric | you'd have to manually turn off the minimap icon, i think |
17:09.23 | kenlyric | so they obviously knew how to do that |
17:09.25 | chiper | niv: are you sure they actually had it loaded? |
17:09.44 | NeoTron | when I see flash and shake I can only think of "shake 'n bake" |
17:09.48 | Funkeh` | you can /script AceLibrary("Waterfall-1.0"):Open("BigWigs") |
17:09.51 | Funkeh` | macroit |
17:10.09 | selckin | peragor: gridlayoutplus deosn't dep on talentquery and errors when its not found |
17:10.14 | chiper | neo: what's the trick to get magicmarker to add a zone for mob gathering if I'm not a raid assist? |
17:10.26 | Fisker- | http://www.starcraft2.com/features/zerg/pylons.xml <-haha |
17:10.49 | chiper | fisker: hah |
17:10.59 | Funkeh` | @ NivFreak |
17:11.59 | NeoTron | chiper: zone into an instance |
17:12.07 | NeoTron | it doesn't care whether or not you're an assistant |
17:12.32 | NeoTron | if you want to add a non-instance you have to do it manually: /script MagicMarker:EnableEvents() |
17:13.15 | Saroz | meeeh, why wont tinytip just.. WORK |
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17:13.47 | Saroz | I have no idea how MagicMarker works, I downloaded it, and.. eh yea, wth |
17:14.19 | Saroz | sometimes it says it finds a new mob |
17:14.31 | NeoTron | like.. when it finds a new mob :P |
17:14.39 | kergoth | gasp |
17:14.39 | Saroz | so when does it actually MARK something |
17:14.47 | kergoth | did you read the readme? |
17:14.48 | kergoth | :P |
17:14.51 | NeoTron | basically if you're group leader, the very basic functionality is just "alt+mouseover" => mark |
17:14.53 | Saroz | no |
17:14.56 | Saroz | I dont do readme files |
17:14.59 | Saroz | AH! |
17:14.59 | NeoTron | no configuration is needed to actually do anything |
17:15.02 | Saroz | ok ty |
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17:15.17 | NeoTron | of course it works hell of a lot better if you DO configure it (/magic) |
17:15.44 | Saroz | naise, an options dialog |
17:15.45 | Saroz | thats new |
17:15.54 | selckin | what do i need todo to get all the bar textures back in elkano buffbars :\ |
17:16.13 | Stanzilla | install/update SharedMedia |
17:16.26 | Chaud | new proximo is nice =D |
17:16.29 | Saroz | ah thats pretty clever |
17:16.32 | Saroz | NeoTron |
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17:17.21 | Saroz | so does it print to chat, say "Sheep Cross" |
17:17.22 | Saroz | etc |
17:17.34 | kenlyric | so when did this design change happen with shared media? |
17:17.59 | selckin | Stanzilla: thanks, works |
17:18.03 | kenlyric | guess I missed it |
17:19.03 | Miyari | I'm tossing the mystery box back out there :( http://www.nordrassil.org/mysterybox.jpg |
17:19.12 | RaydenUni | eating food doesn't break on dots? |
17:19.15 | Miyari | Knowing that it could be any of this http://www.nordrassil.org/addons.jpg hurts me |
17:19.16 | RaydenUni | like poison? |
17:19.23 | Miyari | No |
17:19.28 | RaydenUni | woah |
17:19.28 | kergoth | Miyari: lol, i hate it when that happens |
17:19.30 | RaydenUni | i never knew this |
17:19.34 | RaydenUni | this changes everything |
17:19.37 | kergoth | random thing somewhere and not knowing what did it |
17:19.45 | Miyari | lol |
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17:19.58 | Miyari | I'm afraid to start turning things on and off cause knowing me I'll find a way to break things even worse |
17:20.10 | kergoth | can you click on it, or click through it? |
17:20.18 | kergoth | if you can click on it, you can at least get the frame name, which might be enough |
17:20.20 | Miyari | I can hold down left mouse and drag it around |
17:20.34 | kergoth | mouse over it, do /print GetMouseFocus():GetName9) |
17:20.37 | Stanzilla | eePanel? |
17:20.38 | kergoth | er, (), not 9) |
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17:20.56 | Miyari | Thought so |
17:21.05 | Miyari | It's what I thought it was, just not why |
17:21.16 | Miyari | It's Xparky's Legoblock |
17:21.43 | Miyari | Though it's toggled off in options |
17:21.53 | NeoTron | Saroz: it doesn't no |
17:22.05 | NeoTron | Saroz: although being able to report the current state is on the TODO |
17:22.18 | Saroz | would be smart |
17:22.24 | kergoth | Miyari: be glad wobin named the frame |
17:22.31 | Miyari | I am very :) |
17:22.37 | kergoth | :) |
17:22.41 | Miyari | I had a feeling that's what it was since it's the only addon I have that's generated anything even remotely similar |
17:22.56 | Miyari | It's not working when I toggle it on either :/ |
17:23.05 | NeoTron | I've added significant features/improvements every day I've been able to work on it :P |
17:23.08 | NeoTron | it's getting there |
17:23.09 | Miyari | I named the frame Sparky, it's my new UI pet |
17:23.16 | Miyari | So it's all good |
17:23.21 | NeoTron | still really want 2.4(TM) |
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17:32.13 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
17:32.13 | CIA-9 | - Engineering fix |
17:33.27 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r64152 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua: |
17:33.27 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
17:33.27 | CIA-9 | - Reorged tailoring local in enUS (alphabetized it) |
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17:38.48 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r64154 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Bugfix. |
17:40.20 | Chaud | this new proximo is win |
17:40.35 | Chaud | I wish I had it on live |
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17:43.30 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
17:43.30 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
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17:49.45 | Chaud | rofl |
17:49.57 | Chaud | this resto druid dueled me when I was trying to take screenshots on TTR |
17:50.11 | Chaud | so I accept and stomp him, he puts me on ignore and logs off |
17:51.06 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r64155 10SmoothQuest/SmoothQuest.lua: SmoothQuest: fix tagging |
17:53.31 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r64156 10StatBlocks/ (Locales/enUS.lua StatBlocks.lua): StatBlocks: Add global backdrop color selection |
17:53.40 | chiper | neotron: see, I ask this because I've been in Kara twice since I installed it, and it still doesn't list Kara in the mob database. But it does list elwynn forest and ZA, which I've been group leaders in |
17:53.46 | NeoTron | specifically I guess I want a master instance that is responsible for handing out marks but how to best decide which instance is the master |
17:54.10 | NeoTron | chiper: again though, group leader doesn't matter for learning. not sure why it wouldn't be in there |
17:54.29 | Dklein | mh, how long does it ca. take until I get a response for a SVN Account request? |
17:54.30 | NeoTron | is it a recent version or the one where it logged everything everywhere? |
17:54.33 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: Lead > Assist, non-promoted can't mark anyway |
17:54.52 | NeoTron | Groktar: well what if the leader doesn't have it? |
17:54.58 | chiper | btw, it might be a good idea to put a note on /magicmarker that you need to type /magic to get the window :P people don't read readme's :) |
17:55.05 | NeoTron | s/Groktar/Gnarfoz/ |
17:55.09 | Gnarfoz | well? it's a non-issue then, right? ^^ |
17:55.20 | NeoTron | chiper: if you still have /magicmarker your version is old ;-) |
17:55.30 | NeoTron | I removed it since it has no purpose other than confusing people |
17:55.31 | chiper | my version is what ever is on WAU |
17:55.51 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: scenarion: 3 assists with addon, leader doesn't have it. which assist's addon is the master? |
17:56.08 | kergoth | i'd think itd be good to make /magicmarker do the same thing as /magic, just for the users diving in without reading the readme, not knowing what the slash command is |
17:56.15 | chiper | but perhaps it changed since I tried the command |
17:57.11 | NeoTron | chiper: change 63946 @ 08 March 2008, 13:27:44 -0800 (44 hours ago) |
17:57.18 | Chaud | =\ so no more talent inspects in 2.4 arenas? |
17:57.30 | chiper | sigh, I hate salesmen. one of the most annoying parts of my job, dealing with the jock sales guys who don't really know the stuff they're selling |
17:57.32 | NeoTron | kergoth: could be although ppl need to read the readme :P |
17:57.37 | kergoth | indeed |
17:57.43 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: newer version > older version; most detailed settings for this zone > less detailed settings for this zone; after that: first come, first serve - or make it user-designateable |
17:57.44 | chiper | neo: mmm,yeah, this was a couple days ago |
17:57.44 | NeoTron | but really wshat I need is a minimap button/fubar thing |
17:57.59 | kergoth | could always put a blurb in the options window instead of in the readme though, maybe more people would read it that way |
17:58.03 | chiper | neo: yes, a fubar button would be very nice |
17:58.18 | NeoTron | kergoth: except ppl open the options window using /magic unless they have a key binding :P |
17:58.29 | NeoTron | once you have a key binding you don't need /magic anyway, atm |
17:58.39 | NeoTron | I will however reword the command line interface |
17:58.47 | NeoTron | chiper: problem is - fubar + ace3 >:-) |
17:59.09 | kergoth | i dont see a problem. make a seperate fubar_magicmarker, make it rock or ace2 |
17:59.10 | kergoth | call it done |
17:59.15 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I suppose I can build a score |
17:59.26 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, Make a statblocks plugins >:) |
17:59.27 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: yeah, but don't overcomplicate it |
17:59.28 | NeoTron | kergoth: yeah thought crossed my mind |
17:59.57 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Kergoth |
17:59.57 | purl | slaps Kergoth upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
18:00.03 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: you could also make it refuse to work unless a master is set |
18:00.03 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: just want it to be accurate and preferably automatic |
18:00.05 | kergoth | ~whaleblock Josh_Borke |
18:00.06 | purl | ACTION shields Josh_Borke with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag |
18:00.11 | kergoth | noo, wrong argument |
18:00.27 | Josh_Borke | /flex |
18:01.01 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: at this time I don't plan to USE statblocks but making a plugin should be simple enough :P |
18:01.11 | Funkeh` | yeah |
18:01.16 | Funkeh` | tinkering with a bigwigs one |
18:01.21 | Funkeh` | then after 2.4 you can have an icon also |
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18:03.23 | NeoTron | hmm but that's a problem... I can't wait on the master to tell the slave how to mark something because it's done on mouse over |
18:03.50 | NeoTron | might just be multi-master - i.e one instance says "I marked FOO with X" and the others marks it as used |
18:05.42 | Saroz | this marking stuff is odd |
18:05.45 | NeoTron | could also be more manual for slaves - i.e "mark my target" button tells the master to "mark raidXtarget" |
18:05.49 | Saroz | it wont mark my sheep target correctly |
18:06.05 | NeoTron | is there a mage in the party? |
18:06.08 | Saroz | ye |
18:06.19 | NeoTron | turn on at logging to debug at least |
18:06.27 | NeoTron | it says how it marks a target. |
18:06.32 | Saroz | ok |
18:06.32 | Kemayo | NeoTron: Arrowmaster has a handy framework-independent LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 in branches. |
18:06.36 | NeoTron | i.e marked MOB with CC (sheep) |
18:06.46 | NeoTron | Kemayo: yeah but he told me not to use it "officially" yet |
18:07.55 | Saroz | ehh marked X with sqaure (CC) |
18:08.01 | Saroz | marked Y with square |
18:08.27 | Saroz | ah, it's cause all marks are under the tank |
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18:08.37 | Saroz | so if you add it as sheep you have to remove it from tank |
18:08.39 | NeoTron | tank should hav eall marks |
18:08.47 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r64157 10StatBlocks/StatBlocks.lua: StatBlocks: allow a font as low as 1 |
18:08.48 | Saroz | it does, but it overwrote the CC |
18:08.54 | NeoTron | then it had highe priority |
18:09.03 | Saroz | I assigned no priroity |
18:09.10 | NeoTron | then tank has higher priority :P |
18:09.18 | NeoTron | P1 tank > P1 CC |
18:09.33 | Saroz | but why use same icon then |
18:09.46 | NeoTron | because you assigned the icons like that |
18:09.58 | NeoTron | you fully control which icons are used for what |
18:10.03 | Saroz | well it should use an icon it didnt already assign |
18:10.13 | NeoTron | priority system |
18:10.21 | NeoTron | higher priority get dibs on the higher priority symbols |
18:10.28 | NeoTron | that's the whole point of prioritization |
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18:10.46 | NeoTron | so if you want sheep to have higher priority make the target a higher priority mob |
18:11.01 | Saroz | ok |
18:11.05 | NeoTron | also it sounds like you have square as a high prioritized tank target |
18:11.17 | Saroz | assumed it would try and CC whatever it could |
18:11.22 | NeoTron | typically you'd want the icons you use most for CC to be last in the tank icon list |
18:11.50 | NeoTron | it will try to CC everything it can but it still adheres to prioroties first |
18:11.59 | Saroz | it's 7th and 6th |
18:12.50 | Saroz | anyway, changed priority, so lets see |
18:12.54 | NeoTron | how large is the pull anyway? :P |
18:13.09 | Saroz | 3 mobs |
18:13.11 | Saroz | heroic MT |
18:13.22 | NeoTron | did you reset used raid targets? |
18:13.27 | NeoTron | raid target cahce |
18:13.30 | Saroz | no |
18:13.35 | NeoTron | because it's definitely not failproof |
18:13.41 | Saroz | I just ALT+mouseover |
18:13.41 | NeoTron | it's a hack that works sometimes |
18:14.00 | NeoTron | in 2.4 I will be able to accurately tell when mobs die. in 2.3 I can't |
18:14.06 | Saroz | ye |
18:14.20 | NeoTron | it scans the raids/party's targets and if it sees a dead target unmarks it (on unit death) and also on mouse over |
18:15.04 | Saroz | ahh |
18:15.10 | Chaud | what is a blue question mark above an NPCs head? |
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18:15.28 | Saroz | repeatable |
18:15.31 | Chaud | So... |
18:15.38 | Chaud | the stonard inkeeper has one on the PTR |
18:15.40 | Chaud | but no quest |
18:16.12 | Megalon | perhaps something todo with the new portal spells |
18:16.35 | Chaud | that is what I am wondering |
18:16.45 | Chaud | maybe my rep isnt high enough yet? |
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18:16.58 | Saroz | nah |
18:17.00 | Saroz | shouldnt show then |
18:17.15 | Chaud | then I guess it just isnt done |
18:18.50 | Chaud | I wonder if raiders will QQ about port to Stonard |
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18:19.05 | chiper | I wonder why they picked Theramore. gadgetstan would have made more sense |
18:19.25 | Chaud | OMFG Atiesh is worthless now! YOU GAVE THE CASUALS A PORT SO CLOSE! |
18:19.32 | Megalon | chiper: skill engi for that one :P |
18:19.41 | chiper | ah, true |
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18:19.44 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
18:19.44 | CIA-9 | - Added vendor info for some LW recipes |
18:19.57 | ulic | chiper: and gadg is neutral, maybe they wanted faction places. |
18:19.59 | Megalon | and, gadgetzan is a neutral goblin town |
18:20.06 | ulic | jinx! |
18:20.06 | chiper | have to be gnome engineer, I'm goblin |
18:20.20 | chiper | shat is a neutral town too |
18:20.21 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r64159 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: Fixed cut'n'paste bug that made the raid mark cache be cleared every time the group was iterated. |
18:21.58 | chiper | but the engineering portal does make sense |
18:22.00 | NeoTron | they added new portal spells? |
18:22.01 | ulic | they obviously have a reason to add them, we'll just have to wait and see what, adding them just because doesn't seem to make sense to me. Other than I guess to have a second city on each continent |
18:22.18 | chiper | and theramore is only one FP away |
18:22.43 | chiper | ulic: there's long been an absense of portal for that end of the continent |
18:23.10 | chiper | most mages I've talked to have taken to setting hearth in gadget |
18:23.21 | ulic | I never minded it, I like the idea of only porting to capital cities, but that said I won't fight it. |
18:23.38 | Chaud | I want more ports. |
18:24.14 | ulic | now if I could hearth to one place and astral recall to another, I'd be all over that :P |
18:24.15 | chiper | hopefully they'll put two ports in for northrend |
18:24.44 | Chaud | for whoever asked, but I fail and closed window http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7112/stontardfh9.jpg |
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18:25.41 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
18:25.41 | CIA-9 | - Engineering update |
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18:38.40 | NeoTron | What is the relationship of Ace3 on the trunk vs branches? is there some document on that? |
18:39.01 | Josh_Borke | trunk doesn't change |
18:39.25 | NeoTron | I assume at some point it will |
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18:40.33 | CIA-9 | skillet/lilsparky: |
18:40.33 | CIA-9 | - fixed potential infinite loop in trade scan code |
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18:46.12 | [Ammo] | trunk is the stable option |
18:46.23 | [Ammo] | branches = devel and we merge stable changes into trunk |
18:47.23 | NeoTron | is there a schedule associated with it (curious because Ace3 gui/config has a few fixes that distinctly affects my addon :) |
18:48.04 | [Ammo] | approximately weekly |
18:48.17 | [Ammo] | but you can speed up that process by giving nevcairiel hot love |
18:49.24 | NeoTron | hehe |
18:49.36 | NeoTron | I checked out the RC1 version to validate the fixes |
18:50.34 | nevcairiel | hm i can merge later today |
18:50.39 | nevcairiel | after raid or so |
18:50.52 | NeoTron | cool |
18:51.41 | Chaud | where is one of those useful sct like addons for 2.4 =\ |
18:52.29 | nevcairiel | MSBT has a 2.4 alpha |
18:52.33 | nevcairiel | works pretty nice already |
18:52.37 | Stanzilla | sct has 2.4 beta, too |
18:52.43 | NeoTron | what is the process if I wanted to get a jira project set up for my addon? |
18:52.50 | Cheads | go parrot! =) |
18:53.23 | ckknight | I'm working on LibDogTag-3.0, which is what Parrot will use |
18:53.31 | ckknight | but I need to finish that first |
18:53.58 | kergoth | dogtag 3 is looking promising, the syntax is much more intuitive |
18:54.56 | Cheads | sounds nice ck |
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18:55.18 | Cheads | should be plenty of time left before 2.4 hits live I assume? |
18:56.34 | Chaud | "plenty" |
18:56.46 | Kemayo | NeoTron: I think you just have to ask Kaelten about it. |
18:57.01 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r64162 10StatBlocks/Locales/enUS.lua: StatBlocks: add some locale |
18:57.40 | Chaud | last time I used msbt was at level 60 =\ |
18:57.50 | Cheads | Chaud, I can see there's a 2.4 of sct+sctd on wowinterface |
18:59.12 | CIA-9 | 03funkydude * r64163 10StatBlocks_Clock/StatBlocks_Clock.lua: StatBlocks_Clock: add x, y positioning |
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19:01.28 | Chaud | Thanks, that SCT on wowi works |
19:01.36 | Chaud | strata of menu is below pitbull though =\ |
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19:05.14 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07kemayo * r64164 10LibSimpleFrame-1.0/LibSimpleFrame-1.0.lua: LibSimpleFrame-1.0: check GetEffectiveScale when positioning. (drycode) |
19:05.54 | kergoth | Kemayo: betterquesttracker is looking pretty nice :) might just finally ditch nquestlog |
19:07.06 | Kemayo | kergoth: Nice to see someone is keeping an eye on it. :D |
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19:15.55 | kenlyric | so, I have libsharedmedia2, libsharedmedia3, sharedmedialib |
19:16.06 | Industrial | so delete 2 |
19:16.07 | kenlyric | and now I need another addon to actually get shared media? |
19:16.29 | kenlyric | oh, i'm sure some mod still uses 2 |
19:16.43 | Industrial | patch it |
19:16.47 | kenlyric | I mean, some mod still uses 1 |
19:16.54 | Industrial | patch it |
19:16.55 | kenlyric | ok, but that's not the point, none of them work |
19:17.17 | kenlyric | apparently I also need sharedmedia? |
19:17.26 | Stanzilla | SharedMedia has teh media, yes |
19:17.26 | kergoth | ? |
19:17.29 | kergoth | the libs dont include media |
19:17.37 | kenlyric | uhhh |
19:17.39 | kergoth | the libs just facilitate sharing of media between addons |
19:17.40 | kergoth | thats all |
19:17.43 | kenlyric | when did this happen? |
19:17.48 | kergoth | they never have |
19:17.57 | Industrial | kenlyric: I get that feeling like all the time :p |
19:18.04 | kenlyric | so what has been giving me bars for pitbul before this week? |
19:18.16 | kenlyric | and for EBB? |
19:18.42 | Kemayo | Individual addons that use the sharedmedia libs include a few pieces of media -- the libs function as a repository of all that media. |
19:18.51 | Industrial | sharedmedia is a vague grey spot |
19:19.04 | evl | wooot |
19:19.07 | evl | timed event done |
19:19.09 | evl | 3 mins to spare |
19:19.11 | Industrial | why dont they just all use the blizzard textures by default, and let sharedmedia handle the "extra" media? |
19:19.11 | evl | is this some dyps? |
19:19.25 | Industrial | also, why not make all addons use only one version, and then do away with the old ones |
19:19.25 | kergoth | Industrial: you mean addons that use the libs? |
19:19.31 | kenlyric | well, Aloft has the Charcoal (and other) bar skins. Pitbull and EBB do not. and I know for sure that EBB used to. |
19:19.31 | Industrial | yeah |
19:19.49 | Industrial | less duplication |
19:19.50 | kergoth | its political now, some people want to switch from -2.0 to -3.0, others see it as pointless so dont |
19:19.54 | kergoth | its stupid, but what can ya do |
19:20.03 | Industrial | rule with an iron fist |
19:20.07 | kergoth | nobody should be using sharedmedialib though, that should go |
19:20.33 | Industrial | set rules and create a conversion project for the good of all |
19:20.41 | Industrial | is what I would do |
19:20.49 | Industrial | but hey, not my addon(s) :p |
19:21.16 | Stanzilla | yeah seems like Aloft uses the oldest lib i.e. SharedMedia-1.0 |
19:21.42 | Industrial | kergoth: never mind me btw, I'm just being my cynical self again >_> |
19:21.45 | kenlyric | yup, apparently that's why aloft still has them |
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19:21.56 | kergoth | :P |
19:22.02 | kenlyric | apparently the old one did store media in it |
19:22.15 | kergoth | hm? |
19:22.28 | Zorkmid | anyone want a free account |
19:22.29 | kenlyric | or aloft stores the media in it |
19:22.36 | Industrial | Zorkmid: go away |
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19:22.54 | Zorkmid | why |
19:23.04 | Industrial | Zorkmid: we dont discuss wow accounts in here |
19:23.06 | kergoth | the shared media libraries do not include media. the addons that use it do, sometimes. its likely that right now theres a bug preventing one or more of the shared media lib versions from sharing media with the others, which would explain epoples complaints of late |
19:23.10 | Zorkmid | Craiger37 pass is either Provchamps or provchamp |
19:23.19 | Industrial | someone ban Zorkmid |
19:23.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o kergoth] by ChanServ |
19:23.26 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=Zorkmid@*.home1.cgocable.net] by kergoth |
19:23.26 | *** kick/#wowace [Zorkmid!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com] by kergoth (buh-bye) |
19:23.33 | Industrial | thx |
19:23.49 | grennon | darnit, i need free accounts and he seemed like such a reliable source |
19:23.58 | keiss | any idea what DTMR is ? |
19:24.24 | Industrial | ~lart grennon |
19:24.25 | purl | wallops grennon with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
19:24.42 | break19 | Industrial: thing is, if another addon has it's own texture, it -should- register the media with sharedmedia libs, and then its available to all.. some, but not all addons do that. |
19:25.21 | Industrial | break19: well, yes, but I'd get it into SharedMedia in the first place |
19:25.49 | Industrial | if its any good :p |
19:26.36 | kergoth`lunch | i still think fonts in sharedmedialibs need to be revamped in some way |
19:26.37 | kenlyric | version numbers in addon names. Such a fucking good idea |
19:26.46 | kergoth`lunch | like ask it for font X, italic version |
19:26.47 | kergoth`lunch | or whatever |
19:28.47 | Josh_Borke | ~lart kergoth`lunch |
19:28.47 | purl | slams kergoth`lunch against a large cement Tux |
19:29.46 | Industrial | kenlyric: I agree |
19:30.00 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r64165 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- in-game F.A.Q. updates |
19:31.10 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r64166 10aX_RaidStatus/ (. embeds.xml): |
19:31.10 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
19:31.10 | CIA-9 | - Change: Embeds.xml, Added AceOO and AceLibrary |
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19:32.16 | Hjalte | Can you get out of combat just before Reliquary of Souls? |
19:32.21 | NeoTron | yes |
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19:32.31 | NeoTron | if you don't have ppl trailing adds with you on the way down |
19:32.43 | NeoTron | however you really shouldn't need it - not like healers do much in phase 1 anyway |
19:33.37 | nikoJ | I'm having a problem with Parrot crashing on startup, 'Attempting to index upvalue 'Parrot_Display' (a nil value)' |
19:34.26 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r64167 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
19:34.26 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
19:34.26 | CIA-9 | - All LW vendor information added |
19:34.26 | CIA-9 | - Alchemy started |
19:34.27 | CIA-9 | - Version update |
19:35.11 | kenlyric | version update. so I guess you should just make that AckisRecipeList2 |
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19:41.29 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r64168 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Add 'title' line at the top of AddOn-checkbox tooltips. |
19:41.47 | keiss | any idea which addon uses 'DTMR' as an identifier ? |
19:42.07 | [Ammo] | dottimer |
19:42.10 | [Ammo] | probably |
19:42.16 | Arrowmaster | it is |
19:42.22 | keiss | doing more traffic than recount :D |
19:42.32 | Arrowmaster | tell the people using it they need to update |
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19:43.06 | Josh_Borke | what? recount so it uses more traffic? |
19:43.17 | Arrowmaster | no dottimer |
19:43.39 | kergoth`lunch | i havent found a good alternative to dotimer yet.. hoping the new NECB will be a good route |
19:44.16 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r64169 10PiraPlex/PiraPlex.lua: PiraPlex :- Fix a minor typo in the in-game F.A.Q. |
19:44.47 | mykx | kergoth`lunch: classtimer is a fine replacement |
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19:44.58 | kergoth`lunch | last i checked it didnt have things like distract, since they arent buffs |
19:45.13 | kergoth`lunch | also, i dont think it has any form of promninence/emphasis to emphasize more important timers |
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19:45.46 | mykx | well as a warlock it's useful but it doesn't have multiple target tracking I guess until 2.4 |
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19:49.12 | NeoTron | mykx: I tried classtimer way back when and found it inaccurate and incomplete |
19:49.36 | NeoTron | inaccurate in that timers randomly disappeared and incomplete because it didn't do any mult-target tracking |
19:49.46 | NeoTron | and yes, 2.4 should make sure addons a lot more accurate and easier to make |
19:50.41 | NeoTron | s/sure/such/ |
19:53.08 | Chaud | this sct for 2.4 makes me want to punch someone |
19:53.16 | NivFreak | ? |
19:53.18 | NivFreak | why |
19:53.25 | Chaud | incoming damage stopped showing |
19:53.29 | Chaud | and I can't make it come back |
19:53.30 | Kemayo | Chaud is just a very angry man. |
19:53.32 | NivFreak | I switched to MSBT a while ago, not sure if I'm going to stick with it |
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19:53.41 | Stanzilla | msbt is awesome |
19:53.44 | NivFreak | it's alright |
19:53.46 | Tem|AFK | MSBT > SCT |
19:53.47 | Chaud | waiting on parrot =\ |
19:53.51 | Tem|AFK | lawl |
19:53.57 | NivFreak | I was no big fan of SCT |
19:54.27 | kergoth`lunch | sct's scrollareas are jsut too limited imo |
19:54.31 | break19 | <3 MSBT |
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19:55.44 | Chaud | wtf is this ARGH |
19:55.52 | Chaud | using default profiles it still doesnt work |
19:56.27 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r64170 10PiraPlex/ (PiraPlex.lua PiraPlex.toc): PiraPlex :- Release v1.1 (tag to follow) |
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19:57.46 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r64171 10/tags/PiraPlex_1.1/: PiraPlex :- v1.1 release |
19:58.34 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r64172 10PiraPlex/ (PiraPlex.lua PiraPlex.toc): PiraPlex :- This is now 1.2 beta |
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20:13.26 | Kulaar | hmm the new rangecheck of grid doesnt work for me. |
20:13.31 | Kulaar | someone else noticed it? |
20:14.37 | Kulaar | it does only change the alpha on distances > 100 yards |
20:15.02 | CIA-9 | 03apoco * r64173 10aX_RaidStatus/RaidStatusCore.lua: |
20:15.02 | CIA-9 | aX_RaidStatus: |
20:15.02 | CIA-9 | - New: Minimap icon border changes colors based on raid status. |
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20:17.28 | Chompers | after najentus, how do you deal with the large pack of aqueous spawns? |
20:17.37 | Dklein | banish some |
20:17.41 | Chompers | its hell dealing with them |
20:18.40 | Josh_Borke | go clear hyjal |
20:18.43 | Josh_Borke | come back the next night |
20:18.58 | NeoTron | Chompers: CC, and earth elementals |
20:19.02 | NeoTron | lots of earth elementals |
20:19.06 | Chompers | ha :P |
20:19.07 | NeoTron | and poison cleansing totems |
20:19.25 | selckin | aren't that many spawns really |
20:19.28 | NeoTron | had 5 shamans once |
20:19.39 | Xinhuan | and fear |
20:19.46 | NeoTron | the snap aggro on the elementals is hax plus they are immune to poison damage |
20:19.56 | Chompers | only 15 deaths, not so bad |
20:19.56 | NeoTron | s/poison/nature/ |
20:20.08 | NeoTron | 15 deaths? wow. ouch |
20:20.17 | NeoTron | how many shamans? |
20:20.34 | Chompers | the dragonmaw stuff looks like fun :/ |
20:20.36 | Chompers | 4 |
20:20.43 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: does MM now add mobs to the DB without hold alt down? |
20:20.44 | Chompers | but we had no idea how to deal with them |
20:21.09 | Elsia | spam poison cleanse totems |
20:21.39 | Elsia | basically you want to pala tank them, poison cleanse like mad and AoE once aggro is established.. some greater earth elementals for tank relief |
20:21.50 | Elsia | make sure that the pala tank has full hot stacks up when pulling |
20:22.08 | Chompers | if the pala tank existed, we'd do that |
20:22.16 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: yes |
20:22.37 | Elsia | you can multitank it too, main thing is massive cleansing, that's the main damage that happens here |
20:22.40 | NeoTron | Chompers: 4 earth elementals can do a lot |
20:22.56 | Industrial | but water beats earth pokem..never mind |
20:22.58 | Elsia | earth elementals are immune to all damage they do, just launch them all and tank what's left |
20:23.02 | CIA-9 | 03seerah * r64174 10SharedMedia-Blizzard/SharedMedia-Blizzard.toc: |
20:23.02 | CIA-9 | SharedMedia-Blizzard: |
20:23.02 | CIA-9 | - fixed typo which kept SM-Blizzard from loading |
20:24.35 | Chompers | no mobnotes for this trash :< |
20:24.42 | Chompers | i miss them already |
20:25.19 | NeoTron | Chompers: the supremus trash is incredibly easy |
20:25.28 | Chompers | sure is |
20:25.29 | Seerah | make your own ;) |
20:25.34 | Elsia | that pack may be the most dangerous trash actually |
20:25.37 | NivFreak | you can go straight to supremous right? |
20:25.40 | Chompers | we're talking about how easy it is on vent |
20:25.49 | Chompers | is it all like the first two packs as you enter his room? |
20:25.49 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: anyhow I decided holding down alt isn't necessary now when it's only enabled in instances (and you can disable it on an per-instance basis) |
20:26.05 | NeoTron | no |
20:26.12 | NeoTron | there's the ones with the dragons |
20:26.18 | NeoTron | and the large solo-pull demons |
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20:26.25 | NeoTron | they can be dangerous if combined |
20:28.36 | Chompers | vs naj, what's supremus like? |
20:29.02 | Elsia | supremus == darkener + tank & spank |
20:29.29 | selckin | supremus is cake |
20:29.29 | Elsia | supremus is easy if people are quick to run away from vulcanos and ground fires |
20:29.57 | Elsia | tank phase needs 2 hateful strik soaker tanks |
20:30.00 | NivFreak | you can skip naj and go to him, right? |
20:30.24 | Xinhuan | why would you? |
20:30.31 | NivFreak | I'm just asking :P |
20:30.41 | Chompers | you can i think |
20:30.42 | NeoTron | Chompers: well... we did wipe on Supremus. once. then he died. |
20:30.58 | Chompers | took a few attempts at naj, so we won't be nearly as lucky |
20:31.07 | NivFreak | We'll probably be working on Vashj and Kale when 2.4 hits |
20:31.08 | NeoTron | Naj is harder than supremus by quite a bit |
20:31.13 | NivFreak | so I figured we'd play in Hyjal/BT a bit too |
20:31.16 | Xinhuan | the guy at start of instance only ports you up, if you killed both naj and supremus i think |
20:31.36 | EvilJohn | yeah |
20:32.02 | NeoTron | so if we go by number of wipes, Supremus is second easiest BT boss after Shahraz |
20:32.05 | NivFreak | I haven't been in BT on anything but a private server, so it'll be new to me :P |
20:32.05 | EvilJohn | it's easy for supremus to get out of hand pretty easy though |
20:32.21 | EvilJohn | AKama is the easiest thing I've done yet |
20:32.24 | NeoTron | when learning Supremus, just tell people to do absolutely zero DPS in phase 2 |
20:32.43 | Xinhuan | you're likely to meet enrage timer if you do that |
20:32.47 | NeoTron | EvilJohn: we had like 3-4 wipes on akama because the tanks failed to control the side adds but yeah not hard |
20:32.56 | EvilJohn | we wiped our first time |
20:33.01 | EvilJohn | then we got him no problem |
20:33.04 | EvilJohn | it's fun |
20:33.08 | NeoTron | still, we killed Shahraz on our first try and supremus on our second |
20:33.26 | NeoTron | I preferred fights like bloodboil and RoS |
20:33.26 | EvilJohn | nice |
20:33.36 | EvilJohn | we're just starting bloodboil |
20:33.52 | NeoTron | those fights are an order of magnitude harder probably |
20:33.56 | NeoTron | not HARD but harder |
20:33.59 | EvilJohn | it would seem |
20:34.09 | EvilJohn | we'll get it, i'm sure |
20:34.13 | NeoTron | BT felt too easy for the most part |
20:34.18 | EvilJohn | everything is easier than vashj and kael |
20:34.50 | NeoTron | still, one-shotting the 7th boss is a bit rediculous |
20:34.57 | EvilJohn | i agree |
20:35.03 | NeoTron | I know she was really hard before - they nerfed her too much |
20:35.04 | EvilJohn | but what can you do |
20:35.10 | NeoTron | get free t6? :) |
20:35.21 | EvilJohn | not me, I spend too much dkp |
20:35.23 | Xinhuan | you mean like the chess event in kara? technically that's the 7th boss hehe |
20:35.26 | NeoTron | Illidari Council is "easy" but hard because its such a damn long figh.. and boring |
20:35.44 | NeoTron | people falling asleep => biggest issue on council |
20:35.58 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: well that is a bit different - it's a fun event with soom loot |
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20:37.23 | NivFreak | doesn't council have just a ton of shit to not stand in? |
20:39.06 | NeoTron | NivFreak: basically |
20:39.17 | Chompers | do i have to clear the whole of supremus room before i start the encounter? |
20:39.20 | NeoTron | you need to interrupt heals and there's high damage to random targets |
20:39.22 | Chompers | or just a good part of it |
20:39.23 | NeoTron | that can't be avoided |
20:39.32 | NeoTron | Chompers: we've always cleared all of it |
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20:39.52 | NeoTron | because if you get punted the wrong way you sure as hell don't want adds (I dunno if the adds join in though) |
20:40.11 | NivFreak | man, I'm frustrated after last night |
20:40.18 | NivFreak | we basically one shot al'ar |
20:40.20 | NeoTron | still avoiding 4711 times to stand in for 10+ minutes |
20:40.24 | NivFreak | then wipe over and over on solarian |
20:40.28 | NeoTron | wow |
20:40.30 | NivFreak | because of wide spread bomb failures... |
20:40.39 | NivFreak | I actually made everyone install solarian alarm |
20:40.41 | NeoTron | that's pretty sad |
20:40.47 | NivFreak | I'm still pissed off |
20:40.52 | NivFreak | our enh shaman was chewing everyone out for it |
20:40.58 | NivFreak | then he blew up both groups on the first bomb |
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20:41.01 | NivFreak | so I called it |
20:41.13 | NeoTron | wait |
20:41.16 | NeoTron | you group up? |
20:41.19 | NivFreak | yep |
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20:41.23 | NeoTron | just spread out |
20:41.29 | NivFreak | people just aren't paying attention |
20:41.31 | NeoTron | lessens the chance of ID10T errors |
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20:41.42 | Fisker- | 1's are l's |
20:41.47 | Fisker- | !'s are i's |
20:41.47 | NivFreak | I gkicked one person last night |
20:41.51 | Fisker- | learn21337speak |
20:41.53 | janeklb | can anyone help out a nub mod developer? |
20:41.54 | NivFreak | I'll boot more if they don't pay attention |
20:41.59 | azraelo | Hey, anyone having problems with Skilett? |
20:42.04 | azraelo | err Skillet |
20:42.09 | NeoTron | Fisker-: L2know what the ID 10T error is |
20:42.15 | NivFreak | did they already nerf the trash before Kael? |
20:42.17 | NeoTron | it's not leet speek :P |
20:42.20 | Fisker- | no u NeoTron |
20:43.02 | Xinhuan | they did |
20:43.05 | NeoTron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID-Ten-T_Error |
20:43.10 | Xinhuan | they removed half the packs |
20:43.19 | Fisker- | OWNED NeoTron |
20:43.21 | NivFreak | so what's left? |
20:43.23 | NivFreak | like 5 mobs? |
20:43.24 | Fisker- | when ID-Ten-T is spelled out it becomes ID10T, l33tspeak for "idiot". |
20:43.31 | NeoTron | the main issue with the KT packs isn't the number or difficult as much as that they respawn :P |
20:43.32 | Xinhuan | the other half. duh!!! |
20:43.36 | Fisker- | 1 = l, ! = i |
20:43.39 | NeoTron | or rather that they are there at all |
20:43.44 | Fisker- | it's IDLOT not IDIOT |
20:43.45 | Fisker- | hoho |
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20:44.03 | NeoTron | Fisker-: "though the usage actually predates L33T as a part of geek culture" |
20:44.20 | Fisker- | perhaps |
20:44.24 | Fisker- | but not in computer lingo :< |
20:44.37 | Fisker- | i'm gonna sleep now :( |
20:44.41 | EvilJohn | i have no trouble with redundant trash packs being taken out |
20:44.42 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I thought there was one really hairy back before kael |
20:44.44 | EvilJohn | silly |
20:45.43 | NeoTron | ID10T is part of the jargon file. not sure how old it is but a lot older than whatever weird "rules" you have for "leet speak". that'd be my point |
20:46.12 | Yssaril | anyone know the path to the blizzard test icon (the one with the dudes face on it) |
20:46.53 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: Any "official" way to tell HandyNotes about new icons? |
20:47.07 | Xinhuan | nope |
20:47.11 | Fisker- | NeoTron be that as it may, "ID10T" was not the invention of 1337 speak |
20:47.23 | Fisker- | And the rules are pretty clear |
20:47.34 | Fisker- | it's "leet (1337) speak" not "ieetspeak" |
20:47.46 | Fisker- | Anyways |
20:47.54 | Fisker- | pointless argument and discussion terminated :P |
20:48.08 | Fisker- | i should obvious troll less |
20:48.30 | Fisker- | bai |
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20:50.19 | Chompers | okay then, here goes supremus try #1 |
20:50.48 | janeklb | Any mod devs out here willing to help out? |
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20:52.11 | Elsia | ~asktoask |
20:52.12 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
20:53.15 | Elsia | jane: basically just ask what you need help with |
20:55.01 | Kypp | hi guys, is there anyone really good with ace-comms? |
20:55.20 | Kypp | i'm having an intermittent error about text size (prefix + text) length greater than 255 |
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20:57.37 | xyu | just picked up super smash bros brawl rar! |
20:57.44 | xyu | and i suck at it :p |
20:57.45 | janeklb | Alright thanks, how would I go about getting my target's name / unitid? |
20:57.53 | Kypp | anyone else ever have a comms error about message length? anyone think the issue is that the serializer in the chat throttle can only send a single string of less than 255 characters length (a large table OK but must decompose into individual key strings of less than 255 and value strings of less than 255)... that's my guess |
20:59.03 | zapl | uinitid of your target would be TARGET.. if thats what you mean |
20:59.23 | Chompers | lawl, wipe |
20:59.37 | Chompers | its a big huffing volcano, how can you miss that |
20:59.41 | Yssaril | Kypp: blizzard limits the length to less than 255 :P |
21:00.03 | Yssaril | actually its prefix+msg should be less than 255 |
21:00.38 | Proph | whats the amt of +hit that is good for rogues for arenas? |
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21:03.37 | janeklb | I probably phrased that question wrong - im looping through my aUF.units (ag unit frames) and I want to see if my target is amongst them |
21:03.56 | janeklb | so I need a way to compare the aUF.units to something that is my target |
21:04.00 | Antiarc | UnitIsUnit("target", otherUnitID) |
21:04.17 | Antiarc | ~api UnitIsUnit |
21:04.18 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitIsUnit |
21:05.02 | janeklb | Perfect, thanks |
21:06.01 | baer_ | druid's BR is down to 20 mins CD? |
21:06.11 | baer_ | ain't that fixed in ora2? |
21:07.12 | nevcairiel | it is |
21:07.25 | nevcairiel | like a minute after the change was on live servers |
21:07.36 | baer_ | that's really strange. |
21:07.50 | baer_ | i still have 30 mins. |
21:07.57 | baer_ | and all other raid members in my raid. |
21:09.03 | selckin | its the other side that need to update |
21:09.07 | selckin | the druid |
21:11.13 | p3lim | should always be up-to-date tho |
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21:18.39 | ValleG | p3lim, pCast errors somtimes when i target people casting something. No idea when, why or how :) |
21:18.56 | ValleG | brb |
21:18.59 | p3lim | Its cause of the timer, channeling crap on target |
21:19.04 | p3lim | Use an older version please |
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21:21.04 | ValleG | Ah, I don't mind. !BugGrabber ftw? |
21:22.44 | ValleG | Hate waiting for 2v2 queue :/ |
21:22.58 | baer_ | nevcairiel: so, what's wrong, when everyone sees 30 mins for br? |
21:24.10 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r64175 10Ace3/ (AceDBOptions-3.0/AceDBOptions-3.0.lua changelog.txt): Ace3 - increment minor in AceDBOptions and update changelog |
21:24.13 | NeoTron | baer_: someone is using CTRA? |
21:24.25 | baer_ | NeoTron: nope, all ora2-users. |
21:24.35 | NeoTron | it's enough if someone has it running, even if they use ORA2 |
21:24.43 | NeoTron | when we had that problem a few people ran both CTRA and oRA2 |
21:25.01 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r64176 10Ace3/ (8 files in 6 dirs): |
21:25.01 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - (merge upto 64175) |
21:25.01 | CIA-9 | - see changelog.txt for details |
21:25.06 | baer_ | nope, no one. |
21:25.18 | NeoTron | how do you know? |
21:25.23 | genetik | some people will swear up and down the walls that they don't use something when they actually do |
21:25.26 | baer_ | i just asked. :) |
21:25.33 | NeoTron | that's what I figured |
21:25.39 | NeoTron | what genetik said |
21:25.41 | genetik | "who aggro'd that mob?" |
21:25.44 | genetik | *silence* |
21:25.45 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, ping |
21:26.05 | NeoTron | I don't know if there's a realiable way to see if someone has CTRA installed if they also have oRA2 |
21:26.12 | Chompers | yay! |
21:26.14 | NeoTron | but I can promise you that is your issue |
21:26.15 | Chompers | only took two tries |
21:26.22 | NeoTron | told you he's easy |
21:26.24 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: SpyGnome! |
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21:26.35 | Chompers | really easy, stupid people not moving |
21:26.37 | Diao | doesn't ora2 reply with a ctra version too |
21:26.43 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, reping |
21:26.43 | Chompers | 7 people dead :o |
21:26.45 | genetik | Chompers: which encounter? |
21:26.54 | Gngsk | genetik, supremus |
21:26.55 | Chompers | supremus |
21:26.57 | genetik | cool |
21:27.04 | genetik | he was being a bitch to us last night |
21:27.21 | genetik | volcanos cutting the raid in half, etc |
21:27.55 | genetik | probably one of my least favorite fights so far, though. way too many random elements, in my opinion |
21:27.58 | NeoTron | Diao: it does but I don't know what happens if you have both addons |
21:28.19 | NeoTron | genetik: ... it's so easy |
21:28.27 | NeoTron | and random yes but you haev 15m to kill him |
21:28.31 | NeoTron | not like you're in a hurry |
21:29.05 | Chompers | to akama! |
21:29.17 | nevcairiel | akama is a push over too |
21:29.19 | genetik | it didn't happen on our previous kills, but last night, he annihilated melee dps even when the offtank was topped off |
21:29.29 | genetik | in p1 |
21:29.33 | NeoTron | the trash before akama can be fun the first few times |
21:29.55 | NeoTron | genetik: you know the 2nd hit is threat based right? |
21:30.04 | genetik | he was also second on threat :) |
21:30.05 | NeoTron | Hurtful Strike ~= Hateful Strike |
21:30.19 | genetik | according to Threat, at least |
21:30.25 | NeoTron | only takes one hit with melee above him before they die |
21:30.50 | NeoTron | still it has nothing to do with HP at all |
21:31.09 | genetik | you sure about that? i could have sworn i read that it was health based |
21:31.23 | genetik | but i do tell the offtank to stay in second place |
21:32.04 | genetik | wowwiki: Hateful strike. A melee attack that hits 2nd highest current health player in melee range for ~7000 hp. |
21:32.05 | Gngsk | anyone around can help my try to reproduce a bug withi pitbull_spark? |
21:32.24 | genetik | bosskillers: A massive melee damage ability done to the highest HP target within aggro range. |
21:32.38 | nevcairiel | Hateful is what patchwork does |
21:32.45 | nevcairiel | Hurtful is what supremus does |
21:33.05 | nevcairiel | Deals 12350 to 13650 damage to the target with the second highest threat within melee range. |
21:33.06 | Ellipsis | Gngsk: what's up? |
21:33.16 | Azurewrath | mhm... does "without externals" in WUA mean that it really gets NO externals, or does it mean that they are not embedded? I'd like to run standalone externals... |
21:33.28 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, disable spark, reload UI and enable it. do you get an error? |
21:33.50 | Ellipsis | I don't have a WoW install right now, let alone pitbull, let alone pitbull_spark |
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21:34.02 | Ellipsis | however there has been an error reported to happen in that situation |
21:34.04 | NeoTron | genetik: Patchwerk = health based, Gruul/Supremus = threat based |
21:34.19 | Ellipsis | and it's likely just an issue of things not getting created fast enough when the module is enabled |
21:34.23 | NeoTron | genetik: bosskillers is very very often completely wrong |
21:34.32 | Gngsk | aight |
21:34.34 | Ellipsis | safe to ignore, and I'll fix it when I am able to work on pitbull again |
21:34.46 | Gngsk | sounds good |
21:35.09 | NeoTron | Azurewrath: it means they will be added as standalone dependencies, if you've enabled "automatic dependecies" |
21:35.18 | NeoTron | otherwise you need to manually add them I guess |
21:35.19 | genetik | http://wowwebstats.com/3jv5fpcr6n3bu?s=8095-8867&ab=426 |
21:35.22 | Chompers | neo, is akama + trash doable with only 3 tanks? |
21:35.24 | genetik | logs say hateful strike |
21:35.30 | genetik | Chompers: yes |
21:35.51 | genetik | assuming you have some cc |
21:37.14 | baer_ | great! gurtogg firstkill. :) |
21:37.36 | Snago | I thought Supremus was health based as well |
21:38.11 | Groktar | it is |
21:38.34 | genetik | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28308 - hateful |
21:38.37 | genetik | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33813 - hurtful |
21:40.22 | Ozguli | hmm... Can someone point me a macro to use a random mount? |
21:40.34 | mikma | Ozguli: /castrandom mount1,mount2 |
21:40.54 | Ozguli | works? Thought items needed some special stuff.. |
21:40.58 | Ozguli | Thanks |
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21:44.09 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo * r64177 10/branches/HandyNotes_Directions/ (. Ace3/ Ace3/Directions.lua Ace3/HandyNotes_Directions.toc): |
21:44.09 | CIA-9 | HandyNotes_Directions: Database of locations that city guards direct you to. Totally and utterly drycoded, and substantially |
21:44.09 | CIA-9 | ripped off from _Mailboxes. |
21:44.48 | ValleG | If I use standalone libraries and delete an addon, does it check which libraries to delete or do you have to do that manually? |
21:44.54 | ValleG | In WAU of |
21:44.57 | ValleG | ofc* |
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21:47.53 | mikma | Kemayo: while your at it, code a database that has all the needed positions in it. then we can do /showmetheway area52 and where ever we are, a arrow will guide us there ;P |
21:48.13 | baer_ | anyone knows, how to get back the target circle? |
21:48.40 | ValleG | You can disable that....? |
21:49.34 | baer_ | it disappared after killing bloodboil. |
21:50.16 | ValleG | tried reloading ui? |
21:50.33 | ValleG | never ever heard of it disappearing before |
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21:51.41 | baer_ | <PROTECTED> |
21:52.28 | Kemayo | mikma: That's far more work than what I did. :P |
21:52.52 | mikma | Kemayo: it is :I |
21:53.13 | |Pixel| | winkiller: 212 |
21:53.16 | |Pixel| | hmmm |
21:53.17 | |Pixel| | interesting |
21:53.33 | winkiller | ? |
21:54.11 | mikma | aaaand, on the other note: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4134-SomeAssemblyRequired.html <- this but far more better would rock :O |
21:55.42 | haste | so logich mikma ! |
21:55.46 | |Pixel| | just disregard that, my irssi did something funky |
21:55.50 | haste | <this> far better will always rock! :3 |
21:55.50 | |Pixel| | sorry |
21:56.02 | haste | s/ / + / |
21:56.08 | mikma | haste: you better would cock |
21:56.16 | haste | mikma: your world! |
21:56.26 | mikma | cock my world, yes, yes, |
21:56.35 | haste | I'll leave for finland right away! |
21:57.21 | mikma | yay. when you arrive we can have some serious manlove |
21:57.30 | Ellipsis | can I watch? |
21:57.33 | haste | o'yeah |
21:58.11 | ValleG | this feels like the cheesy bash.org joke where someone joins inbetween and goes "you sick fucks" and leaves |
21:58.33 | Ozguli | that stuff happens often |
21:58.37 | Ellipsis | what could be sick about haste-on-mikma action? |
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21:59.00 | Ellipsis | I mean come on...you have to admit it's turning you on just a teensy bit, at least? |
21:59.01 | NOTmikma | you sick !!!! |
21:59.02 | haste | lol |
21:59.53 | mikma | Ellipsis: yeah my nipples are turning to be pointy |
22:00.01 | haste | I'm going to continue reading 4koma now |
22:00.14 | mikma | and i'll continue cutting my nails :P |
22:00.31 | Ellipsis | and I'll go back to being bored |
22:00.32 | mikma | this is the manly action! i'm doing with Leatherman Wave |
22:00.34 | Ellipsis | wtg guys |
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22:01.25 | mikma | Ellipsis: oh i know what cheers you up |
22:02.47 | mikma | Ellipsis: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QRgoxTce8FY |
22:03.06 | mikma | requires a youtube account btw |
22:03.42 | Ellipsis | rawrrrrr~ |
22:03.52 | ValleG | user: kiskiskis, pwd: kiskiskis |
22:03.53 | ValleG | lol |
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22:04.22 | sag_ich_nicht | gaaaaaaaaaaah |
22:04.56 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you prince |
22:04.58 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you so hard |
22:05.07 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr add a range indicator to prince or i'll kill you |
22:05.20 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: the "don't suck" indicator/ |
22:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | base it of the tank if you have to |
22:05.51 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you asshole i have no 3 dimensional vision i'm allowed to fail at that |
22:06.03 | theycallmepost | can anyone walk me through translating a world map coordinate to a specific zone (by hand, using known offsets and zone sizes) ? |
22:06.30 | mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=K9lR5Uz-s4g |
22:06.33 | theycallmepost | erm.. i mean, does anyone want to? |
22:07.12 | Ellipsis | mmm yeah mikma...you know what I like |
22:07.30 | Chompers | neo, are you still about? |
22:07.40 | mikma | but, that last one wasn't for you, it was for everyone! |
22:07.49 | Chompers | the room after supremus, should we be moving north or south? |
22:07.59 | Chompers | or straight ahead |
22:08.19 | genetik | hang a right to get to akama |
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22:14.26 | Ozguli | -00:08:28- (Ozguli`) google it. Ace wau. |
22:14.26 | Ozguli | -00:11:28- (Dtox) hm not finding it |
22:14.27 | Ozguli | people are too stupid! |
22:14.28 | kergoth | goddamn freenode |
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22:15.08 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/wats_in_here.jpg |
22:15.31 | Gngsk | mikmam you sick bastard |
22:15.48 | mikma | Gngsk: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/normipaiva142.jpg |
22:16.41 | Ellipsis | HOT |
22:16.55 | sag_ich_nicht | how to disable HP number rounding in pitbull(or dogtag, where it's coming from)? |
22:17.11 | kergoth | change the tag you're using |
22:17.41 | kergoth | mikma: dood.. wtf |
22:17.49 | kergoth | i just ate not that long ago |
22:18.04 | mikma | kergoth: omnomnom |
22:18.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:17] <@kergoth> change the tag you're using <--okay lemme ask that again: what is the proper tag for absolute HP with no rounding. |
22:18.44 | Arrowmaster | im eating right now and that didnt phase me |
22:18.46 | sag_ich_nicht | yes i just ended a question with a period |
22:18.52 | NeoTron | Chompers: what genetik said! |
22:18.52 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: what rounding do you mean? |
22:19.06 | Diao | short(number)? |
22:19.06 | Ellipsis | you want decimal HPs? |
22:19.14 | kergoth | sag_ich_nicht: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-2.0/Tags#Health |
22:19.19 | kergoth | one google, two clicks later.. |
22:19.21 | kergoth | that was hard to find |
22:19.21 | Diao | lol |
22:19.22 | kergoth | :P |
22:19.40 | Diao | since by default pitbull rounds anything over 1k to x.xk |
22:19.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah too bad it doesn't say anything about rounding. |
22:19.45 | Diao | or whatever |
22:19.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: yes |
22:19.52 | kergoth | scroll down to the modifiers |
22:19.55 | kergoth | round is right there |
22:20.00 | kergoth | alternatively, ctrl+f.. type round |
22:20.03 | kergoth | also very difficult to find |
22:20.10 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: all HP tags return values rounded to the nearest integer, no way around that |
22:20.16 | Ellipsis | also, you guys suck at helping |
22:20.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: why. |
22:20.33 | sag_ich_nicht | actually no |
22:20.40 | sag_ich_nicht | just tell me where the floor is |
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22:20.44 | sag_ich_nicht | so i can comment is |
22:20.51 | Ellipsis | oh, that floor |
22:21.00 | Ellipsis | /Modules/Health |
22:21.13 | Ellipsis | pick your tag, edit your code as desired |
22:21.51 | Diao | yeah see just remove the :short which is in by default and it should show exact values |
22:22.06 | Ellipsis | Diao: stop trying to confuse him, you didn't listen to his question |
22:23.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: lemme guess ckk used integers and i have to turn them to float and floor them myself? |
22:23.27 | Ellipsis | uh, dude, numbers are numbers in lua |
22:23.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well lua sucks |
22:23.35 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
22:23.36 | Ellipsis | no u |
22:23.45 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
22:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme check |
22:23.53 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
22:23.54 | sag_ich_nicht | no sucking |
22:24.04 | Gnarfoz | pet bar is... Secondary Action Button |
22:24.05 | Gnarfoz | ? |
22:24.06 | Ellipsis | I didn't say you stink, I said you suck |
22:24.08 | Gnarfoz | or special action button |
22:24.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: lern2english |
22:24.16 | Ellipsis | no u |
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22:25.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
22:25.36 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: all numbers are C doubles in lua |
22:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
22:25.45 | sag_ich_nicht | what a waste |
22:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
22:26.01 | sag_ich_nicht | what's MobHealth_PPP |
22:26.17 | sag_ich_nicht | or for that matter what does the PPP stand for :P |
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22:26.32 | Ellipsis | don't worry about it, that's not the line you're looking for :) |
22:26.39 | ckknight | points-per-something |
22:27.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i wanna know it because i won't touch code i at least SOMEWHAT understand |
22:27.13 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
22:27.36 | Ellipsis | good, then there should be no problem |
22:27.43 | Ellipsis | l2english ;) |
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22:31.28 | Antiarc | Online gaming can spark romances between shy people who feel getting to know each other through speaking in games is like falling in love "from the inside out". Their relationships are then tested in situations that would never be found in real life, such as attacks by wolves. |
22:31.33 | Osstia | ~seen kivin |
22:31.37 | purl | kivin <n=Kivin@bas1-kingston08-1167888616.dsl.bell.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 21h 16m 11s ago, saying: '!ap 1704'. |
22:31.57 | Kemayo | Antiarc: All I can say is, that person obviously doesn't know how to take someone on a good date. |
22:32.17 | Antiarc | For srs. |
22:32.39 | Antiarc | "He has three characters a druid, a knight and an elf, all powered up to the fabled "level 70" status, which can take over 30 full days of play, or 720 hours." |
22:32.41 | Antiarc | Whaaaaat. |
22:32.44 | Antiarc | Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat. |
22:32.55 | Osstia | 30 days? |
22:33.16 | Antiarc | 30 days /played to 70 is a longass time. |
22:33.24 | Antiarc | Even if you have no idea what you're doing. |
22:33.26 | Civrock | If you play in RP mode and level all your professions etc, then sure. |
22:33.34 | Osstia | I do all my professions |
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22:33.55 | Civrock | All the cybering time is probably included as well. ;) |
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22:34.10 | Antiarc | I played on an RP server and maxed my professions and spent massive amounts of time idle programming and I still hit my first 60 at like 14 days played, and 70 was pretty darn fast. |
22:34.10 | Osstia | I have 2 professions, cooking, First aid, and fishing on 4 toons. and none of them took 30 days |
22:35.07 | Antiarc | http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2104838.0.0.php for the article. |
22:35.36 | Grum | fishing takes 14 hours orso |
22:37.01 | ulic | maybe the quote means get got all 3 up to 70 in a combined 30 days? |
22:38.17 | Osstia | i would like to hear a fable about a lvl 70 |
22:38.29 | Osstia | any RP'ers wanna take a stab at it? |
22:39.07 | NeoTron | Antiarc: what struck me is "a druod, a knight and an elf" |
22:39.20 | kergoth | ooh, the elf class |
22:39.31 | kergoth | i presume its ability is 'look pretty' |
22:40.15 | NightHawkAtWork | kergoth: nah, playing by 1st edition d&d rules :P |
22:43.16 | NeoTron | [...]in which more than 50 million people |
22:43.23 | NeoTron | wow grew it seems. heh |
22:43.30 | NeoTron | that article is fun of fail |
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22:48.31 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: as if that wasn't obvious from the first paragraph.. :P |
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22:55.45 | zapl | lol "I think it's more likely he has one character. A "Druid Night Elf" not a druid, knight and an elf." |
22:56.36 | Lukian | haha |
22:58.41 | sag_ich_nicht | lmao |
22:59.43 | Snago | World Of Warcraft, known as WOW, in which more than 50 million people take on the characters of wizards or warriors <-- That number is new to me |
23:00.03 | Groktar | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-tmi-hippo-splatter-zone.jpg |
23:02.15 | Zeksie | wizards.. |
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23:13.47 | ckknight | zapl: I wish I were a knight |
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23:14.44 | xyu | http://www.freeple.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/image0011.jpg |
23:14.47 | xyu | http://www.freeple.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/image0021.jpg |
23:14.58 | ckknight | hehe |
23:15.05 | ckknight | xyu: in all honesty, props. |
23:17.32 | zapl | ckknight: http://www.davidhasselhoffonline.com/KnightRiderPoster01.jpg ! |
23:17.56 | ckknight | zapl: if you hadn't caught by now, my last name is Knight |
23:19.58 | WobWork | "which can take over 30 full days of play, or 720 hours." |
23:20.06 | WobWork | (Cause our readers cannot do maths) |
23:20.22 | Kemayo | I can check myself in half an hour... but does anyone know of the top of my header whether or not doing SetPoint for "LEFT" and "RIGHT" from frame1 to frame2 will automatically adjust the width of frame1 if frame2 changes? |
23:20.39 | Kemayo | s/of the top of my header/off the top of their heads/ |
23:20.41 | WobWork | nyet |
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23:20.52 | WobWork | that's only a single anchor point |
23:20.57 | WobWork | if you setallpoints it would |
23:21.18 | WobWork | oh |
23:21.22 | WobWork | -and- |
23:21.26 | WobWork | then probably yes |
23:22.18 | Kemayo | Okay, thanks. I will double-check once I have WoW access, of course. :) |
23:23.35 | NeoTron | Trojans on wowhead/thottbot/allakhazan => http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=5085.msg52987 |
23:23.51 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r64178 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Vendor.lua: |
23:23.51 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
23:23.51 | CIA-9 | -Typo fix |
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23:26.08 | zapl | ckknight: hmm thats indeed new to me.. should not assume nickname != realname |
23:26.14 | Stanzilla | http://www.staneck.de/upload/files/guildb.jpg < lol |
23:26.26 | ckknight | zapl: yea, I don't believe in hiding behind anonymity |
23:26.35 | ckknight | at least for myself |
23:26.51 | ckknight | normal person + anonymity + audience = shitcock |
23:27.18 | Vangual | gotta love that penny arcade strip :) |
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23:34.24 | zapl | wasnt anonymous p0rn the reason dod invented the internet in the 60s? ;) |
23:35.11 | NeoTron | that and the future potential of blogs |
23:35.24 | Ellipsis | the internet is for porn |
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23:48.32 | NivFreak | there's a lot of people that assert druids don't need resist gear on hydross adds anymore |
23:48.36 | NivFreak | can anyone confirm that? |
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23:49.06 | NightHawkAtWork | I dont think any of our add tanks have used resist gear, at least not in my recent memory? |
23:49.35 | NivFreak | don't suppose you have a WWS parse? :) |
23:49.48 | NightHawkAtWork | I can see if i can find one |
23:49.56 | NivFreak | thanks |
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23:50.57 | vhaarr | NivFreak: they hit just as hard now, but with the new ZA and badge gear, people who still do Hydross typically have a lot higher damage output now than the guilds who did him first, so the adds die faster, which means that the offtanks don't take that much damage |
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23:51.12 | vhaarr | it also means they have to maintain more threat, which is harder the more resistance gear you use |
23:51.58 | vhaarr | I'd advise to use a bit of frost resistance and just a nature res aura/totem + frost aura |
23:52.00 | NivFreak | I'm just concerned that with largely t4 level geared folks |
23:52.02 | vhaarr | since the nature adds can be nuked anyway |
23:52.03 | NivFreak | it'll be too much dmg |
23:52.09 | vhaarr | yes perhaps |
23:52.11 | NightHawkAtWork | NivFreak: http://wowwebstats.com/qjtrn4cbcx1vq?s=5727-6072 |
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23:52.23 | NivFreak | We have 3/4 down in TK, but that only took us two weeks |
23:52.30 | NivFreak | so we don't have a ton of t5 level gear floating around |
23:52.34 | NightHawkAtWork | thats the last hydross kill ive found |
23:52.37 | NivFreak | lots of ZA gear though |
23:53.01 | vhaarr | also keep in mind that a druid in tanking gear dodges more than one in resistance gear |
23:53.03 | vhaarr | so it's a tradeoff |
23:53.08 | NivFreak | NightHawkAtWork: do you guys banish 1, MT one, OT 2? |
23:53.26 | NivFreak | vhaarr: I don't think you can dodge elemental attacks can you? |
23:54.21 | NightHawkAtWork | I dont believe we banish any. I'm not precisely sure how they get tanked. i think we usually just have two tanks (typically druids, but whoever we happen to have in the raid), one on each side, and just assist focus them down |
23:54.27 | vhaarr | yes you can dodge it |
23:54.38 | NightHawkAtWork | NivFreak: elemental melee attacks can be dodged like any other melee |
23:54.41 | NivFreak | I see zero dodges in this WWS |
23:54.49 | kergoth | whats the way to go on web based raid scheduling nowadays, still phpraid? |
23:54.49 | vhaarr | that proves nothing |
23:54.51 | vhaarr | it's dodgable |
23:55.00 | vhaarr | it is, however, NOT blockable |
23:55.16 | NivFreak | so both of these druids were just unlucky |
23:55.22 | NivFreak | and never dodged a single attack? |
23:55.24 | NeoTron | we just used AoE |
23:55.27 | vhaarr | or lucky, depending on how you look at it |
23:55.31 | NivFreak | heh |
23:55.42 | vhaarr | taking a hit means more rage |
23:55.42 | NightHawkAtWork | kergoth: we use raidninja, http://www.raidninja.com/ it seems okay *shrug* |
23:55.48 | NivFreak | and the warriors are also unlucky? |
23:55.49 | vhaarr | which means more threat output |
23:55.50 | NeoTron | man I really don't miss SSC |
23:55.52 | vhaarr | which means they die faster |
23:56.04 | NightHawkAtWork | doesn't WWS parse dodge/parry as miss? |
23:56.12 | NivFreak | yes, there are no miss |
23:56.46 | NivFreak | this WWS is wierd |
23:56.51 | NivFreak | one warrior has non-elemental attacks |
23:57.00 | NivFreak | 100% parry/dodge |
23:57.08 | NivFreak | I wonder if it doesn't count it as elemental if they dodge/parry |
23:57.27 | NightHawkAtWork | that may be the case |
23:57.29 | NivFreak | yea, that must be how it's getting parsed |
23:57.33 | vhaarr | a dodge elemental attack shows up just as a normal attack in the combat log |
23:57.40 | vhaarr | dodged* |
23:57.42 | NivFreak | yea |
23:57.43 | NivFreak | ok |
23:57.46 | NivFreak | thanks for the tips |
23:57.56 | NivFreak | You guys are always a great sounding board :) |
23:58.12 | NeoTron | #wowace - better than bosskillers |
23:58.19 | Diao | lol |
23:58.25 | NivFreak | bosskillers is so fail |
23:59.16 | NeoTron | bosskiller strats are always the "first try" strategies it seems |
23:59.22 | NivFreak | NightHawkAtWork: any chance you can confirm/deny resist gear on these druids? :) |
23:59.25 | NeoTron | often completely wrong in many aspects |
23:59.42 | NivFreak | it's more useful to read them before you get to a new boss, just so you have an outline |
23:59.43 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07kemayo * r64179 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0: Fix lib upgrade on completed quests. |
23:59.45 | NivFreak | but past that, they suck |