| 00:01.37 | NeoTron | kergoth: I counter you with... fixed a magicmarker error ;-) |
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| 00:03.22 | kergoth | AceTimer-3.0: CancelTimer(handle[, silent]): 'table: 36A60058' - no such timer registered |
| 00:03.23 | kergoth | Ace3\AceTimer-3.0\AceTimer-3.0.lua:281: CancelTimer() |
| 00:03.23 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.24 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:04.10 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63617 10kgPanels/kgPanels.toc: kgPanels: updated toc to libsharedmedia-3.0 |
| 00:04.39 | kergoth | NeoTron: ah, right |
| 00:04.48 | Xinhuan | magic markers are good at magically erasing errors ;p |
| 00:06.57 | NeoTron | yeah fixed that |
| 00:07.02 | NeoTron | it's not checked in |
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| 00:12.28 | kergoth | NeoTron: okay, cool. nice addon btw, looks handy |
| 00:12.48 | Diao | hm |
| 00:13.01 | Diao | magicmarkers huh |
| 00:13.14 | Diao | oh raid marks |
| 00:15.03 | ulic | does anyone if on the ptr you can do "/target {star}" and target the mob with that raid icon? |
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| 00:22.04 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r63618 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/koKR.lua: |
| 00:22.04 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 00:22.04 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 00:22.49 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r63619 10GridStatusHealingReduced/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 00:22.49 | CIA-9 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 00:22.49 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 00:23.58 | Gnarfoz | ulic: you wish :D |
| 00:25.48 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r63620 10OnScreenHealth/ (3 files): |
| 00:25.48 | CIA-9 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 00:25.48 | CIA-9 | - added support for LibMobHealth-4.0 |
| 00:25.48 | CIA-9 | - fixed standby mode |
| 00:25.48 | CIA-9 | - miscellaneous small cleanups |
| 00:27.51 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63621 10MagicMarker/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MagicMarker: Fixed some bugs, added support to display MobNotes info in the Mob Database (optional). |
| 00:27.52 | ulic | Gnarfoz: acutally my guildie wishes. I have enough know how to switch targets, or use /assist |
| 00:27.54 | NeoTron | kergoth: now fixed |
| 00:28.19 | NeoTron | ulic: simply put you can't |
| 00:28.37 | ulic | I didn't expect, who knows, that maybe blizzard would add it. |
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| 00:28.43 | ulic | *thought |
| 00:28.55 | Antiarc | Wheeee |
| 00:28.57 | Antiarc | My new hardware is here |
| 00:29.38 | ulic | 4:3 is so old school |
| 00:29.48 | Daemona | dont tell us you got new toys |
| 00:29.55 | Daemona | tell us what your toys are ! |
| 00:30.02 | NeoTron | widescreen is nice.. and it sucks :) |
| 00:31.00 | aestil | Antiarc: what'd you get? |
| 00:31.15 | Antiarc | Core 2 Duo 6750 and a BFG 8800GT :D |
| 00:31.20 | aestil | omg |
| 00:31.22 | aestil | i wan |
| 00:31.28 | aestil | ok, so here's a problem i have. |
| 00:31.31 | aestil | http://www.blippr.com/music:albums/7517-With-Teeth |
| 00:31.47 | aestil | i disaggre with that blip, and yet i'd give it the same rating. |
| 00:31.56 | aestil | you need to have some sort of inbetween. |
| 00:32.01 | aestil | or i go crazy. |
| 00:32.05 | Antiarc | Well, you cna disagree with it |
| 00:32.11 | Antiarc | But still give the same rating |
| 00:32.17 | aestil | yeah, but then blippr with think i don't like it. |
| 00:32.20 | Antiarc | The relational algorithm will work properly with it |
| 00:32.22 | Antiarc | Nope |
| 00:32.29 | Antiarc | There's some voodoo under the covers |
| 00:32.35 | aestil | it knows that i don't like the words? |
| 00:32.48 | Antiarc | If you disagree with the blip, but blip it with the same rating? Yes. |
| 00:33.13 | aestil | ok, and have you made it so that when i look at my network, there are numbers next to people i'm following for 'new blips'? |
| 00:33.25 | Antiarc | I'm working on that in dev. |
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| 00:33.35 | aestil | k |
| 00:33.37 | Antiarc | Right now I'm fighting a memory leak that keeps bumping the apps into swap |
| 00:33.42 | Antiarc | Which is murdering performance |
| 00:33.50 | aestil | yeah, which is making the site crawl right now? |
| 00:33.54 | Antiarc | yes. |
| 00:33.58 | aestil | i'm a miserably tester |
| 00:34.03 | Antiarc | :( |
| 00:34.04 | aestil | horriblly demanding. |
| 00:34.07 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 00:34.10 | Antiarc | It's good |
| 00:34.41 | aestil | hey, on that page i linked, it doesn't have link thorught to amazon. what gives? |
| 00:34.56 | Antiarc | It's a bug; it'll be fixed next push. |
| 00:35.17 | NeoTron | what the blip are you talking about?! (sorry I know the site but it was irrestistable) |
| 00:35.20 | aestil | is the dev version on the internet? or is it local to you? |
| 00:35.49 | Antiarc | There is, but it's locked down |
| 00:36.07 | Antiarc | And I'm not going to give you access because more people hitting it makes it hard to dig through logs, and it's usually broken :P |
| 00:36.18 | Antiarc | So there's little benefit to you as a user |
| 00:37.35 | aestil | ok. |
| 00:39.37 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 00:39.38 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 00:40.23 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^64 |
| 00:40.23 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1.844674407371e+19 |
| 00:40.27 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^32 |
| 00:40.28 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 4294967296 |
| 00:40.34 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^33 |
| 00:40.35 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 8589934592 |
| 00:40.54 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^53 |
| 00:40.55 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 9.007199254741e+15 |
| 00:41.00 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^52 |
| 00:41.01 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 4.5035996273705e+15 |
| 00:41.04 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 00:41.08 | Cryect | hmm? |
| 00:41.22 | breser | 2^2030545454 |
| 00:41.36 | Xinhuan | what's the integer limit in lua before it starts to truncate accuracy |
| 00:41.53 | Cryect | uh its whatever the mantissa of doubles is |
| 00:41.58 | Cryect | 40 bits I think? |
| 00:42.07 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^51 |
| 00:42.07 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 2.2517998136852e+15 |
| 00:42.10 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 00:42.40 | Cryect | oh 52 bits |
| 00:42.44 | Cryect | so more bits than ints |
| 00:43.44 | Cryect | I think Lua uses doubles if its using float then its only 23 bits |
| 00:43.53 | Xinhuan | lua uses doubles |
| 00:44.10 | Xinhuan | but i'm not sure what is the accuracy limit for integers |
| 00:44.10 | Cryect | k good |
| 00:44.17 | Cryect | its 52 bits |
| 00:44.24 | Cryect | there is no integers in Lua |
| 00:44.29 | Cryect | everything is doubles |
| 00:44.40 | Xinhuan | so its 2^51 at best before i lose accuracy at the integer level right? |
| 00:44.55 | Cryect | right |
| 00:45.35 | Cryect | actually 2^52 |
| 00:45.43 | Cryect | sign bit is seperate in floating point math |
| 00:45.51 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 00:46.03 | Xinhuan | you sure? |
| 00:46.07 | Cryect | yes |
| 00:46.10 | Cryect | http://steve.hollasch.net/cgindex/coding/ieeefloat.html |
| 00:46.41 | Cryect | what are you trying to do where you need that much precision? |
| 00:47.10 | Cryect | your math is more likely to be badly formulated than you actually need that much precision |
| 00:47.13 | Xinhuan | nothing, moreso a personal curiosity |
| 00:47.20 | Cryect | and if you need more precision you should be using log |
| 00:47.28 | Xinhuan | if i have a number that is 2^53 |
| 00:47.33 | Xinhuan | if i keep deducting 1 from it |
| 00:47.37 | Xinhuan | in a loop |
| 00:47.41 | Xinhuan | will it ever reach 0? |
| 00:47.52 | Cryect | no |
| 00:47.57 | Xinhuan | that's what i thought |
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| 00:50.45 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:50.53 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 00:51.38 | CIA-9 | 03ggcall * r63622 10CastYeller/CastYeller.toc: |
| 00:51.38 | CIA-9 | CastYeller: |
| 00:51.38 | CIA-9 | -- add zhCN localization |
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| 00:59.30 | Gnarfoz | another one! :D |
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| 01:07.59 | Chompers | is there such an addon that lets me know the timers for my sheeps/when they'll break? |
| 01:08.33 | NeoTron | DoTimer for one |
| 01:08.43 | Chompers | oh hell no |
| 01:08.51 | Gnarfoz | ControlFreak ftw |
| 01:08.54 | NeoTron | Quartz should do the trick if you focus the sheep target |
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| 01:12.36 | NeoTron | so my 6 yo son is playing Toontown. He constantly jumps while moving |
| 01:12.52 | NeoTron | it seems like while playing an MMO, everyone always jumps regardless of age :P |
| 01:12.52 | Bibi | nightelf. |
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| 01:14.49 | Chaud | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080304120710.ad7gm7i6&show_article=1 rofl |
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| 01:15.17 | CIA-9 | 03ackis * r63623 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:15.17 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:15.17 | CIA-9 | - Vendor stuffz!!!! :D :D :D Rewrote code to allow for more efficient vendor information database and tested it out with a few tailoring examples. |
| 01:19.05 | Sekkyo | Does elkano show up here ever? |
| 01:19.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ~seen Elkano |
| 01:19.33 | purl | elkano <i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 21m 21s ago, saying: 'Grid + Clique = win ;)'. |
| 01:19.42 | Ellipsis | he sure does |
| 01:19.56 | Sekkyo | He broke ClearFont support in the latest ElkBuffBars checkin :( |
| 01:20.32 | Sekkyo | I wish it was as easy to file a bug as it is to browse where the problem is. |
| 01:21.07 | NightHawkTheSane | if the author uses jira, or some other issue tracker, it is. |
| 01:21.13 | durcyn | EBBs uses LSM-3.0, CF doesn't. hell if i know why there are three different live versions of the same damn library though. |
| 01:21.32 | Xinhuan | chuckle |
| 01:21.36 | Xinhuan | porting issues |
| 01:21.41 | durcyn | my ass |
| 01:22.14 | Sekkyo | Why change from SharedMedia-1.0 to LibSharedMedia-3.0? |
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| 01:22.30 | vhaarr | there's no reason |
| 01:22.36 | vhaarr | people did bad things |
| 01:22.39 | Xinhuan | because many addons use 3.0, 2.0 and 1.0 and some ppl complained about needing to load all 3! |
| 01:23.02 | Gnarfoz | I should create 4.0 just for the heck of it >_> |
| 01:23.14 | Stanzilla | someone should update everything to 3.0 and delete the rest :( |
| 01:23.40 | Xinhuan | there are some API differences that doesn't quite make such a conversion trivial |
| 01:23.45 | vhaarr | you assume 3.0 is better |
| 01:24.05 | vhaarr | 3.0 requires callbackhandler and doesn't support ace2 or rock events |
| 01:24.29 | vhaarr | so what needs to happen is that 2.0 is fixed to support callbackhandler and the bugs fixed |
| 01:24.32 | vhaarr | and 3.0 should be nuked |
| 01:24.58 | Xinhuan | that was something i concluded 1 month ago |
| 01:25.14 | Xinhuan | but i don't actually use any addon that uses LSM apart from quartz i think |
| 01:25.50 | vhaarr | I've been saying it since I learned of 3.0, but elkano is just as bad as ckk |
| 01:25.54 | vhaarr | refuses to face it |
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| 01:27.55 | Xinhuan | as it stands, i don't think either will happen ;p |
| 01:28.09 | vhaarr | clearly |
| 01:28.37 | vhaarr | I remember someone said earlier about the 3 different libs, and elkano replied |
| 01:28.46 | vhaarr | "have you ever looked inside your windows folder?" |
| 01:29.05 | vhaarr | so apparently it's alright for others to do it since microsoft has made the same mistakes many times |
| 01:29.05 | Xinhuan | that was in a thread |
| 01:29.15 | Xinhuan | post #20 if i remember correctly |
| 01:29.17 | vhaarr | ah right |
| 01:29.23 | vhaarr | in the ebb thread |
| 01:29.25 | Xinhuan | of the thread that is titled "rock versions of ace2 libs" |
| 01:29.34 | Xinhuan | my memory is quite good ^^ |
| 01:29.44 | vhaarr | my memory is selective :P |
| 01:30.03 | NeoTron | I know it's a state of transition but right now you are "forced" to a mix of Ace2, Ace3 and Rock >:-) |
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| 01:30.17 | NeoTron | fun stuff |
| 01:30.47 | vhaarr | 2.0 should just be fixed and callbackhandler support added to it |
| 01:31.00 | NeoTron | sounds like a sane thing to do |
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| 01:31.27 | NeoTron | I like the move to make many libraries framework independant |
| 01:31.45 | NeoTron | or rather make them use the libstub "framework" |
| 01:32.30 | Xinhuan | by definition, all libraries aren't really agnostic, since they all require "LibStub" :) |
| 01:32.40 | Xinhuan | a true agnostic library won't even require libstub for its own versioning |
| 01:33.11 | Xinhuan | it would just store its own version number in a variable of its addon library object |
| 01:33.13 | Xinhuan | and upgrade itself |
| 01:33.57 | Xinhuan | i.e the library should be just the single variable exposed in _G[], rather than hidden in a LibStub internal table |
| 01:35.07 | Xinhuan | right now, i feel having to embed libstub in just about everything is pretty silly and redundant |
| 01:35.23 | vhaarr | same with callbackhandler |
| 01:36.22 | Xinhuan | if i were to ever write a library, it'll just be the library, does its own upgrade, and won't need libstub for versioning, and addons can just grab the lib off _G[] instead of LibStub() |
| 01:36.32 | kergoth | people fuck up their lib upgrading even now, making them do -all- the work is just going to make it worse. it just makes sense for the masses |
| 01:36.48 | Xinhuan | kergoth, except that lib upgrading isn't done by libstub |
| 01:37.04 | Xinhuan | all libstub does is compare version numbers |
| 01:38.09 | Xinhuan | if a lib is older, it returns a new empty table, plus the reference to the old table |
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| 01:38.23 | kergoth | that's true.. it provides a consistent version checking api function, but how often is that actually used by anyone |
| 01:38.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:38.24 | Arrowmaster | fixing 2.0 would require changing its api |
| 01:38.50 | Xinhuan | i don't know but i can tell you 2 lines of code is sufficient fo rit kergoth |
| 01:39.31 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: what, :RegisterCallback? |
| 01:39.34 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 01:39.44 | vhaarr | and what addons use that at the moment? |
| 01:39.56 | Arrowmaster | some actually do |
| 01:40.10 | Arrowmaster | i think ckk finally fixed pitbull |
| 01:40.22 | Xinhuan | i find that while libstub is a huge improvement over say requiring acelibrary in the past |
| 01:40.25 | Ellipsis | cowtip does now as well |
| 01:40.36 | Xinhuan | i also find the whole libstub mechanism to be totally unnecessary |
| 01:40.45 | Xinhuan | as the lib should just be self-sufficient |
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| 01:41.30 | Xinhuan | if a lib requires a major version change, then use a new _G[] global |
| 01:41.34 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: I like that there's a common way to get the version of a library, makes it easier for my army of spy gnomes! |
| 01:41.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:42.07 | ckknight_ | yea, the gnome spies jobs are much easier with LibStub |
| 01:42.39 | ckknight_ | spies'* |
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| 01:45.00 | Xinhuan | well i think i got my point across fairly well, so i think i'll just leave it at that |
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| 01:48.54 | Yssaril | ckknight_: does it matter if u use playertarget or simply target for a target unitframe? (both are listed at http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId) but i cant see a real differences between them in case of unitframes |
| 01:50.35 | rubik | omfg.. libsharedmedia-3.0 |
| 01:50.38 | rubik | fail |
| 01:51.35 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63624 10PitBull/ (HealthBar/HealthBar.lua PitBull.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): |
| 01:51.35 | CIA-9 | PitBull - remove alpha setting from HealthBar module |
| 01:51.35 | CIA-9 | - add generic alpha setting to all bars |
| 01:51.37 | rubik | so there's no way to use custom fonts with EBB now? |
| 01:51.44 | NivFreak | what's metalayout? |
| 01:51.45 | rubik | i see that it sees all my textures but not the fonts |
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| 01:51.59 | Thorgard | rubik, weird, mine doesn't see any of my textures. |
| 01:52.01 | NivFreak | is that like, sane default layouts? :) |
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| 01:53.16 | rubik | Thorgard: oh yeah, true.. it doesn't see any textures either.. nothing from MyMedia.lua |
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| 01:53.45 | rubik | what do i replace EBB with? tired of this stupid shit |
| 01:55.25 | Thorgard | WTB SharedMedia-3.0 then. ;P |
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| 01:55.33 | vhaarr | rubik: I reverted to standard blizzard buff frames |
| 01:56.44 | Xinhuan | i refrain from updating addons ;p |
| 01:57.03 | Thorgard | Xinhuan, you, sir, win. :) |
| 01:57.09 | syeren | SBF Frames! |
| 01:58.13 | RaydenUni | what is DTPS? |
| 01:58.57 | Thorgard | Dude, Threat Per Second? |
| 02:01.34 | WobWork | I should make DWMC |
| 02:01.34 | WobWork | Dude, Where's My Cow |
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| 02:11.40 | kenlyric | good story |
| 02:12.09 | vhaarr | yeah, and then I totally left the bottle of milk just standing there in the top of the tree |
| 02:12.09 | vhaarr | and they had no clue |
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| 02:12.34 | ZealotOnAStick | why did the victory sound files change for Bigwigs? |
| 02:13.17 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: well this guy presented us with 4 different new victory sounds because he felt the old one was outdated |
| 02:13.17 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: and we liked them |
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| 02:14.32 | ZealotOnAStick | can we get the old FF one as an option? Bunch of folks miss it. |
| 02:14.55 | vhaarr | really? |
| 02:14.55 | vhaarr | I think this new one sounds a lot better. |
| 02:15.09 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: have you sampled the other new option, the Victory Long? |
| 02:15.09 | ZealotOnAStick | There's a certain charm to the old 8-bit video game days. |
| 02:15.19 | vhaarr | it's the same one with a jazzy ending |
| 02:15.19 | vhaarr | indeed, you're right, there is |
| 02:15.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes. I tried both victory and victory long. |
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| 02:15.52 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: feel free to restore the old one as Victory Classic |
| 02:15.52 | vhaarr | you have svn commit access I think |
| 02:16.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I do in general, though not sure if to Bigwigs. Will look at it after raid. |
| 02:16.38 | vhaarr | you do, it's not locked to anyone |
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| 02:22.45 | Xinhuan | wow should allow playing midi files :( |
| 02:22.54 | Xinhuan | would so supply the ff7 midi! |
| 02:23.48 | Estil | lol |
| 02:23.51 | Estil | good old stuff |
| 02:23.58 | NeoTron_ | so now it can mark based on number of each class in the raid.... but I need to get that number too |
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| 02:29.50 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63630 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (15 files in 4 dirs): |
| 02:29.50 | CIA-9 | LibDogTag-3.0 - initial commit |
| 02:29.50 | CIA-9 | - note: this is not to be used yet, it is not finished, it is mostly so I can have a proper code history as well as allowing others to view what I have thus far. |
| 02:29.50 | CIA-9 | - Differences from 2.0: Different syntax, uses a proper LALR parser instead of regexes. Vigorous testing, no longer unit-specific, that will be part of its own namespace. |
| 02:29.50 | CIA-9 | Feel free to check out test.lua, it's pretty much a full testsuite for LibDogTag-3.0 thus far, and it will stay that way. |
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| 02:29.50 | NeoTron_ | if I scan the raid using raid1 etc, is it worth caching the strings? |
| 02:29.55 | ckknight_ | scan for what? |
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| 02:29.55 | ckknight_ | oh, you mean having like a { "raid1", "raid2" } table? |
| 02:30.02 | NeoTron_ | right |
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| 02:30.13 | NeoTron_ | avoid trashing new strings |
| 02:30.43 | vhaarr | NeoTron_: note that in almost all cases, you don't need to use unit IDs at all -- what are you doing? |
| 02:31.11 | vhaarr | NeoTron_: for i = 1, GetNumRaidMembers() do local n = GetRaidRosterInfo(i); if UnitExists(n) then ... end end |
| 02:31.21 | vhaarr | all Unit* functions accept name as well as id |
| 02:31.43 | NeoTron_ | ah true |
| 02:31.52 | vhaarr | NeoTron_: same is true for SetRaidTarget |
| 02:31.56 | vhaarr | it accepts name as well |
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| 02:32.05 | vhaarr | for raid/party members, of course |
| 02:32.06 | vhaarr | not mobs |
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| 02:42.02 | ausmara | ckknight, Pitbull has a really weird bug. |
| 02:42.11 | ckknight | are you a gnome? |
| 02:42.16 | ckknight | cause I blame gnomes for most things |
| 02:42.45 | EvilJohn | that's a little joke |
| 02:43.25 | ausmara | ckknight: http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1751/wowscrnshot030508023758li9.jpg |
| 02:43.28 | ausmara | Go figure ;p |
| 02:43.57 | NeoTron_ | bombtastic! now it can mark based ont he number of ppl of each class :P |
| 02:44.14 | Ellipsis | what's the bug? |
| 02:44.21 | ckknight | now if it'll only load... |
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| 02:44.48 | NeoTron_ | just need to figure out the event to listen to for making the update to it |
| 02:44.49 | ausmara | Like how Aiaru has those Debuffs. |
| 02:44.53 | ausmara | Yet Foremanator has the same debuffs. |
| 02:44.57 | ausmara | Yet they don't show ;) |
| 02:45.07 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 02:45.10 | syeren | Obviously we're in Group 4 of the Raid ;p |
| 02:45.14 | Ellipsis | yeah, party and raid auras aren't updating right and I have no idea why |
| 02:45.16 | syeren | Maybe that has something to do with it ;p |
| 02:45.18 | Ellipsis | but it's probably my fault |
| 02:45.25 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 02:45.31 | Ellipsis | thanks Xinhuan |
| 02:45.33 | Ellipsis | I needed that |
| 02:45.41 | Xinhuan | you need sleep, that's what |
| 02:45.52 | Ellipsis | I just woke up like an hour ago |
| 02:46.57 | xlvii | @ap 5 1800 |
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| 02:51.46 | aestil | Ellipsis: transfer much? |
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| 02:52.35 | Ellipsis | aestil: I transferred your mom into bed last night |
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| 02:52.52 | aestil | Ellipsis: i didn't know you pinch hit for the other team. |
| 02:53.37 | Ellipsis | there's a lot of things you don't know about me ;) |
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| 02:53.58 | aestil | well, one less now. |
| 02:54.24 | Antiar1 | aestil: I found the problem that kept making blippr blow up |
| 02:54.30 | Antiar1 | So it should be less blow-uppy now. |
| 02:54.39 | aestil | why are you green and not white? |
| 02:54.45 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63631 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua MagicMarker.lua): MagicMarker: Use of CC methods now are based on party/raid composition (never mark more targets for sheep than there are mages, etc) |
| 02:54.49 | aestil | anyways. |
| 02:54.50 | Antiarc | what? |
| 02:54.57 | Antiarc | what? |
| 02:55.20 | NeoTron | WobWork: not sure |
| 02:55.33 | vhaarr | syeren: eh, netsplit ftw |
| 02:55.35 | vhaarr | syeren: how do you get shadows on the chat text? |
| 02:55.47 | syeren | Prat. |
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| 02:57.38 | Chompers | curse you ckknight for making cowtip too powerful |
| 02:57.52 | Chompers | getting people to write out custom tags takes ages |
| 02:57.53 | Cryect | Heh tuesdays suck for gathering combat data on PTRs |
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| 02:58.16 | Ellipsis | I know Chompers, how dare he write such a useful tag system |
| 02:58.59 | Chompers | CURSE HIM |
| 02:59.09 | NeoTron | WobWork: I suspect TargeTUnit type stuff is secure and can only be used from addons outside of combat |
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| 02:59.16 | NeoTron | unless you use a secure template |
| 02:59.17 | RaydenUni | the holy aoe |
| 02:59.20 | RaydenUni | is that a talent? |
| 02:59.23 | RaydenUni | cause i dont have it |
| 03:00.31 | dylanm | Holy Nova? |
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| 03:00.36 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 03:00.55 | WobWork | deep down in holy |
| 03:01.01 | WobWork | actually not that deep |
| 03:01.07 | dylanm | It's third tier. |
| 03:01.13 | RaydenUni | oh there it is |
| 03:01.15 | WobWork | I'm thinking lolsmite build |
| 03:01.28 | WobWork | with SoL |
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| 03:05.02 | ZealotOnAStick | is SVN being slow for anyone? |
| 03:05.17 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r63632 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: |
| 03:05.17 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Inventory-3.0 : |
| 03:05.17 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:05.17 | CIA-9 | 03zealotonastick * r63633 10BigWigs/ (Plugins/Sound.lua Sounds/VictoryClassic.mp3): BigWigs: add in old victory sound as Victory Classic |
| 03:06.47 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63634 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix typo GetAlpha -> SetAlpha |
| 03:09.48 | Gngsk | ZealotOnAStick, best commit in a year |
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| 03:12.54 | ZealotOnAStick | I even bothered to test before committing. |
| 03:13.20 | ZealotOnAStick | mid-raid even. ;) |
| 03:14.41 | CIA-9 | 03cryect 072.4 * r63635 10Recount2/ (GUI_List.lua GUI_Table.lua): |
| 03:14.41 | CIA-9 | Recount2: |
| 03:14.41 | CIA-9 | -The table frame now properly clips columns on the right side of the frame |
| 03:14.41 | CIA-9 | -Creates a new variable for each column on the table frame that is the name of the total variable + 'Avg' which is the average value for that column |
| 03:14.41 | CIA-9 | -Table Frame columns are now centered (except for the name column which is left justified still) |
| 03:14.45 | CIA-9 | -Added Min, Average, and Max column to test usage of the table frame |
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| 03:17.42 | Daemona | interesting concept, but i guess you could call that bloat -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWqIopsxU3Y |
| 03:18.28 | Cryect | not really |
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| 03:23.09 | CIA-9 | 03onlyfly * r63636 10Enhancer/locale/ (Localization-zhCN.lua Localization-zhTW.lua): |
| 03:23.09 | CIA-9 | Enhancer: |
| 03:23.09 | CIA-9 | - Update locale zhCN,fix a little,Update locale zhTW,fix "local locale = "zhTW"" |
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| 03:24.20 | Cryect | Daemona, I like how their website says they are game industry veterans but don't give any examples :-p |
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| 03:24.32 | Daemona | ;) |
| 03:24.58 | dylanm | Top-secret games. |
| 03:24.59 | Daemona | and i don't like their business plan *g* |
| 03:25.28 | Daemona | not that i ever want my map do that google-maps style zooming |
| 03:25.31 | Cryect | not sure selling addons at that price can cover a fulltime job for you (or multiple as their site suggests) unless you live in china |
| 03:25.54 | Cryect | multiple people* |
| 03:28.09 | WobWork | tbh |
| 03:28.14 | WobWork | it looks like cartographer |
| 03:28.19 | WobWork | I wonder if they wrote it in Rock |
| 03:28.32 | WobWork | (with the zoomy map thing tacked on) |
| 03:29.04 | Cryect | well I could say it looks like addons that came before Cartographer as well :-p |
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| 03:29.28 | WobWork | well they're touting it as a all in one |
| 03:29.36 | WobWork | which summarises Cartographer pretty well =P |
| 03:30.17 | Cryect | it can use cartographer/gatherer data so who knows |
| 03:30.44 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: cheers |
| 03:31.47 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63637 10AuraToChat/AuraToChat.lua: AuraToChat: More robust aura handling. |
| 03:32.13 | kebinusan | whats the lib that adds incoming heals to pitbull and grid |
| 03:32.15 | dylanm | It seems like they mapped out the coords -> minimap textures thing... that's nice. |
| 03:32.35 | dylanm | I don't think anything besides Atlas does that. |
| 03:32.38 | Cryect | what is there to map out? |
| 03:32.42 | dylanm | Er, Yatlas. |
| 03:33.08 | Cryect | I have that in replay |
| 03:33.27 | Cryect | though it doesn't really do much besides let you zoom in and out at your current location |
| 03:33.34 | CIA-9 | 03sayclub * r63638 10Automaton/modules/Repair.lua: |
| 03:33.34 | CIA-9 | Automaton: |
| 03:33.34 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
| 03:33.51 | dylanm | kebinusan: LibHealComm-3.0? |
| 03:33.59 | dylanm | Wait no. |
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| 03:40.00 | CIA-9 | 03rabbit * r63639 10AuraToChat/AuraToChat.lua: AuraToChat: Properly regenerate the colors after removing auras. |
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| 03:48.07 | testify | Anyone know why my dot timers in Spellreminder keep flickering when I put my cursor over a mob? |
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| 03:56.01 | Cryect | Haha the stuff is obfsucated multiple times! |
| 03:56.25 | Busko | hey guys and girls was wondering if there is a mod out there that says how much of a type of herb there is in each area |
| 03:56.40 | Busko | like a additon to gatherer maybe |
| 03:58.16 | Gngsk | busko, wowhead has that information, not sure if it's in any mods though |
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| 03:58.38 | Busko | like a statistic Gngsk ? |
| 03:58.44 | Gngsk | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=176584 |
| 03:58.51 | Gngsk | like #nodes per zone |
| 03:59.01 | MentalPower | we technically have that info, but we don't calculate it/ show it ATM |
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| 03:59.23 | Busko | ok cool thanks |
| 03:59.40 | Busko | coz to be honesti thought if i remeber correct gather had that option long time ago :P |
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| 04:02.39 | CIA-9 | 03kemayo 07kemayo * r63640 10LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: LibQuixote-2.0:Fix sorting for zone-iterated quests. |
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| 04:03.51 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r63641 10PitBull/Aura/Filter23.lua: PitBull_Aura: update priest aura filters (PB-231). |
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| 04:15.45 | CIA-9 | 03ellipsis * r63642 10PitBull/Aura/Filter.lua: PitBull_Aura: updated 2.4 priest aura filters, and converted spaces to tabs. |
| 04:16.40 | FtH|Daemona | iirc cartographer got a statisics module, pay attention to the shortcut list in the top left corner when opening the worldmap |
| 04:18.39 | Hjalte | I don't think the statistics module is part of the default installation. |
| 04:20.16 | FtH|Daemona | @ Busko |
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| 04:31.47 | sdouble | /wave eXemplar |
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| 04:39.57 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63643 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Parser.lua test.lua): LibDogTag-3.0 - Support in strings, e.g. [Func("Alpha\"Bravo")] works the same as [Func('Alpha"Bravo')] |
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| 04:41.11 | Gngsk | nymbia, ping |
| 04:42.55 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63644 10MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: Fixed CancelTimer error. |
| 04:42.57 | Hjalte_ | Hmm, has the war effort been up on the EU pve PTR all the time? |
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| 04:46.16 | NeoTron | hrm |
| 04:46.25 | NeoTron | I just did a /rarinvite Trial Raider and it invited ppl below that rank |
| 04:46.33 | NeoTron | who broke oRA2? :P |
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| 04:47.17 | kebinusan | it should be a case insensitive match as well imo |
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| 04:47.34 | Gngsk | anyone around here w/commit access feel like helping me fix manufacsnoop's external/toc? |
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| 04:48.05 | durcyn | what's wrong with it |
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| 04:48.22 | Gngsk | it never got updated when nymbia made LibPeriodicTable-3.1 |
| 04:48.26 | durcyn | interesting |
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| 04:48.47 | durcyn | he fixed the optdeps/x-embeds, but not the path, nice |
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| 04:49.19 | Gngsk | if you download the ManufacSnoop.zip from files, there's no lib folder and the toc references libs\PeriodicTable-3.1-TradeskillResultMats\PeriodicTable-3.1-TradeskillResultMats.lua |
| 04:49.19 | Gngsk | er, 3.0 still |
| 04:49.19 | Gngsk | so yah, you have to fix the toc too |
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| 04:49.32 | durcyn | bugger-all and there are no externals |
| 04:49.35 | durcyn | sec |
| 04:50.58 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r63645 10OnScreenHealth/OnScreenHealthOptions.lua: |
| 04:50.58 | CIA-9 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 04:50.58 | CIA-9 | - note to self: do not randomly hit delete key and then save. |
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| 04:52.03 | Gngsk | ahh, ManufacSnoop works locally |
| 04:52.05 | Gngsk | how I missed it |
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| 04:53.07 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn * r63646 10ManufacSnoop/ (. ManufacSnoop.toc): ManufacSnoop: add missing externals and fix PT3.1 path in toc. |
| 04:53.31 | Gngsk | thx durcyn |
| 04:54.15 | durcyn | might want to test that |
| 04:54.37 | durcyn | oh feck |
| 04:54.53 | Gngsk | should work assuming you did it right, that's all that needed to be done |
| 04:55.01 | Gngsk | I did it locally and it worked |
| 04:55.14 | CIA-9 | 03durcyn * r63647 10ManufacSnoop/ (. ManufacSnoop.toc): ManufacSnoop: add missing Lib prefix to PT path in toc |
| 04:55.40 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
| 04:57.51 | Gngsk | need to add ludwig style chat editbox functionality to manufacsnoop |
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| 05:38.39 | Primer | Anyone have a level 19 twink rogue? I'd like to discuss some things |
| 05:39.10 | Primer | I have one now, popping 19 right now in fact. I have all the gear except the WSG PVP gear and some enchants |
| 05:39.28 | Primer | I'm just curious about which enchants I should get |
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| 05:47.13 | Thorgard | Daemona, that's kind of hot. |
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| 05:50.45 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63649 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - make sure to reset the texture on choice controls no matter what. |
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| 05:55.19 | NeoTron | Trying MAgicMarker in Hyjal again. holy wow it's a lot better than last time :P |
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| 06:08.32 | Thorgard | What's so spechul about MagicMarker? |
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| 06:14.55 | NeoTron | it marks. magically. |
| 06:15.05 | NeoTron | basically remove the manual labour of markign stuff |
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| 06:18.25 | Grum | NeoTron: mmm intresting |
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| 06:18.59 | Grum | NeoTron: got an url? google tells me little O.o |
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| 06:34.45 | CIA-9 | 03ckknight * r63650 10LibDogTag-3.0/ (Compiler.lua Modules/Operators.lua test.lua): LibDogTag-3.0 - in tags, allow ${arg:string} and ${arg:type} to reference arg's string representation or type, respectively. |
| 06:34.58 | Yssaril | Grum: http://files.wowace.com/MagicMarker/MagicMarker-r63644.zip |
| 06:36.18 | Grum | kinda nice :D |
| 06:37.07 | Thorgard | Will this MagicMarker make speed-markin' easier? |
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| 06:44.38 | Thorgard | Hmm. |
| 06:45.41 | Thorgard | No go for me. MagicMarker\Config.lua:9: Cannot find a library instance of "LibBabble-Zone-3.0" |
| 06:45.54 | Grum | just install it seperately |
| 06:45.59 | Grum | clearly just an externals booboo |
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| 06:46.10 | Thorgard | I do. ;P |
| 06:46.15 | Thorgard | Already had it installed. |
| 06:46.35 | Thorgard | And I installed MagicMarker via WAU without externals. |
| 06:49.20 | Grum | then the toc is broken :) |
| 06:49.46 | Pkekyo| | ~TIME |
| 06:49.47 | purl | it has been said that time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.03.05 6:49:47 GMT |
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| 06:54.09 | CIA-9 | 03kurax * r63651 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 06:54.09 | CIA-9 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:54.09 | CIA-9 | - Tradeskill zhCN update |
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| 06:59.37 | Zhinjio | Good evening, ckk |
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| 07:02.13 | Yssaril | what tends to be better faster code or less memory? |
| 07:02.30 | dolfijnen1 | well tomorrow |
| 07:02.35 | dolfijnen1 | well tomorrow |
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| 07:16.50 | CIA-9 | 03odlaw * r63652 10PassLoot/Constants.lua: PassLoot: Fixed a couple small typos |
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| 07:17.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: depends entirely on the context. |
| 07:18.45 | NeoTron | Grum: it's on wowace/wowace wiki |
| 07:19.03 | NeoTron | Thorgard: it should be in the externals.. hmm |
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| 07:19.36 | NeoTron | toc might be borked yes |
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| 07:30.40 | ramoz | Whats MagicMaker? |
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| 07:31.52 | Elkano | isn't it MagicMarker? |
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| 07:36.05 | ramoz | oh, it all comes clear to me now Elkano |
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| 07:45.19 | Orionshock | morning all |
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| 07:51.07 | proximo | hi there |
| 07:51.27 | proximo | anyone know if its possible to get a nameplate over my own char ? |
| 07:51.35 | Orionshock | don't think so |
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| 07:51.40 | Shirik | like... hp? |
| 07:51.41 | proximo | bummer |
| 07:51.43 | proximo | thanks |
| 07:51.44 | proximo | yeah |
| 07:51.52 | eXemplar | ./poke sdouble |
| 07:52.01 | Shirik | it's possible to code; I assume nobody ever found it valuable |
| 07:52.01 | eXemplar | or should i say /boat |
| 07:52.15 | proximo | id find it valuable :P |
| 07:52.24 | Orionshock | proximo: dosn't seem like it, even when nameplates turned on for yourself.. no V bar |
| 07:52.49 | proximo | Orionshock: yeah ive tried every setting i could find, nogo so far :( |
| 07:53.41 | proximo | if i had my own nameplate, and with aloft being able to show mana/rage/energy at the nameplates it would cut the need for using a unitframe addon |
| 07:54.01 | Shirik | have you looked at HUDs? |
| 07:54.08 | proximo | yeah |
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| 07:55.16 | xyu | i wish you could change the range on nameplates showing up. |
| 07:55.23 | xyu | they're range limited aren't they? |
| 07:57.16 | proximo | dunno |
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| 08:00.59 | Orionshock | proximo: no, nameplates move too often to use them as a replacement UF |
| 08:01.01 | Orionshock | ... |
| 08:01.05 | Orionshock | i just don't get you ppl |
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| 08:08.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i dont get me either |
| 08:08.06 | proximo | Orionshock: i use just about only nameplate for enemies |
| 08:08.23 | proximo | only need i have for UF now is my own health and rage |
| 08:08.34 | proximo | and what dont u get ? :P |
| 08:09.19 | Elkano | well, if they would increase the nameplate range I think they would have to make them LoS based (iirc they aren't currently) |
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| 08:10.24 | proximo | im ok with the range, being a warrior, but my mage alt would love some extra range :P |
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| 08:12.11 | proximo | check the Q&A at the bottom here http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Aloft for some info on range |
| 08:14.17 | Xinhuan | "Epic BT gems can now be purchased for 15 heroic badges." |
| 08:14.19 | Xinhuan | rofl |
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| 08:18.57 | proximo | humm guess i need to stick to pitbull or try out some HUD again then >< |
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| 08:20.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: o_0 you're kidding me |
| 08:20.25 | Xinhuan | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4923.0 |
| 08:21.04 | Bibi | OLD ! |
| 08:21.18 | Xinhuan | it wasn't technically on the front page bibi |
| 08:21.25 | Xinhuan | since it was just a off-shoot news link |
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| 08:26.44 | Bibi | wasnt on the front page ? wtf ? |
| 08:26.44 | Bibi | :( |
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| 08:33.42 | Orionshock | what's the prominent Healing Assignments addon? |
| 08:33.47 | Orionshock | a generic one |
| 08:33.53 | Elkano | TS ;) |
| 08:34.14 | Orionshock | ... ya for announcements sure, but for sanity checks i need to write it down |
| 08:34.17 | evl | sag_ich_nicht: omnicc worked like a charm! :) |
| 08:34.26 | Diao | vent or raidchat orionshock :P |
| 08:34.35 | Orionshock | ... urg... |
| 08:35.03 | Orionshock | im prolly gona need to go get TinyPad again... |
| 08:35.05 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 08:35.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Orionshock: we use common sense and not sucking, personally |
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| 08:37.54 | evl | nevcairiel: disabing the cooldown model on omnicc also disables the flash, would it be possible at some point to make them separate? e.g "show cooldown dial" and "show cooldown flash" |
| 08:38.01 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 072.4 * r63653 10Violation/ (Collect/Damage.lua Prototype.lua Violation.lua Violation.toc): |
| 08:38.01 | CIA-9 | Violation: |
| 08:38.01 | CIA-9 | - Split off module prototype into a separate file |
| 08:38.01 | CIA-9 | - Debugging spam galore. |
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| 09:00.15 | Cryect | <proximo> anyone know if its possible to get a nameplate over my own char ? |
| 09:00.24 | Cryect | uh a nameplate that stays perfectly centered in your screen? |
| 09:00.41 | Cryect | not that he is here anymore |
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| 09:00.57 | Cryect | but I mean why would you try to use nameplates for that |
| 09:02.08 | evl | Cryect: see your own hp easily |
| 09:02.21 | nevcairiel | just place a unitframe in the center of your screen =P |
| 09:02.45 | CIA-9 | 03ammo 072.4 * r63655 10Violation/ (Display/Window.lua Prototype.lua Violation.lua): Violation: less errors plox |
| 09:04.51 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63656 10MagicMarker/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:04.51 | CIA-9 | MagicMarker: |
| 09:04.51 | CIA-9 | - Added command to mark all targets of the party/raid members |
| 09:04.51 | CIA-9 | - Initial deDE locale. |
| 09:04.51 | CIA-9 | - Some minor fixes. |
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| 09:08.24 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63657 10MagicMarker/Config.lua: MagicMarker: Added new keybinding to configuration UI. |
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| 09:11.34 | NivFreak | NeoTron: you still awake? |
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| 09:18.10 | evl | Anyone know of an updated energy ticker? I've been using kenergy but I might think it's not being maintained anymore |
| 09:20.50 | [Ammo] | it is |
| 09:20.53 | [Ammo] | on his git repo |
| 09:20.55 | evl | ah |
| 09:20.55 | [Ammo] | git.kergoth.com |
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| 09:22.21 | evl | any reason people are changing from svn to git? |
| 09:22.32 | evl | I have to admit I seem to like git better myself |
| 09:22.36 | Kalroth | They don't like Ammo |
| 09:22.48 | Elkano | never used git so can't tell |
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| 09:23.37 | evl | it's pretty much like svn except optimized for larger teams/repos |
| 09:24.01 | evl | you work on something by not making a working copy but "cloning" the repo into your own branch which you can merge back in |
| 09:25.01 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63658 10Mapster/Locale/zhTW.lua: Mapster: zhTW locale from NightOwl on the forums |
| 09:26.26 | Wobin | merging is handled so much better |
| 09:26.53 | nevcairiel | i still fail to see the point of using git on those 1 developer projects |
| 09:26.59 | nevcairiel | its just going with the "cool" kids .p |
| 09:27.09 | evl | its got a robust web interface |
| 09:27.14 | Wobin | I dunno, I'm doing it to get an understanding of how it works |
| 09:27.16 | evl | it has a LOT less meta data spam |
| 09:27.25 | Wobin | so in case I need to use it at work, I'm not completely lost |
| 09:27.34 | evl | Same here really |
| 09:27.50 | Wobin | and I hate svn branch/merge =) |
| 09:30.16 | evl | Wobin: amen |
| 09:32.02 | Grum | just replace the trunk with a branch |
| 09:32.04 | Grum | easiest way |
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| 09:37.59 | CIA-9 | 03ammo * r63659 10BigWigs/ZulAman/Malacrass.lua: BigWigs: ze germans are coming, ze germans are coming! |
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| 09:41.10 | Shirik | ammo, wtf? >< |
| 09:41.29 | [Ammo] | they are! |
| 09:41.44 | [Ammo] | as elkano put it: http://www.gorehoundinc.com/ |
| 09:42.15 | Shirik | what a brilliantly designed webpage |
| 09:42.29 | Shirik | does anyone realize that there are still people operating at 768 pixel height? |
| 09:42.38 | Shirik | this is the second page today that's broken for me because of that |
| 09:42.49 | [Ammo] | get a bigger monitor |
| 09:42.58 | nevcairiel | srsly |
| 09:43.01 | Shirik | actually it's 23" |
| 09:43.19 | nevcairiel | you like very big icons then? |
| 09:43.25 | keiss | get more and smaller pixels then :) |
| 09:43.28 | Shirik | no, but I don't have much of a choice |
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| 09:43.34 | kebinusan | lego blocks for pixels |
| 09:43.40 | Shirik | Hey, I paid $100 for this monitor |
| 09:43.42 | Shirik | can't beat that |
| 09:43.58 | nevcairiel | its a 23" that supports only 768? |
| 09:44.01 | nevcairiel | i can beat that |
| 09:44.17 | Shirik | hey, it's a tv |
| 09:44.23 | Shirik | it just happens to have a VGA port on it |
| 09:44.28 | kebinusan | yeah that was gonna be my guess |
| 09:44.36 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:44.44 | Shirik | it's not poor quality either |
| 09:44.46 | Thorgard | Protection from what? "Zee Germans"? What's to stop it from blowing your bollocks off every time you sit down? |
| 09:44.48 | Shirik | Samsung, etc. |
| 09:44.48 | kebinusan | pixels the size of lego blocks |
| 09:44.55 | nevcairiel | you should get a real 22" or so, you'll never ever want to go back |
| 09:44.58 | Shirik | It's actually a lot better than you'd think |
| 09:45.01 | nevcairiel | widescreen for programming = the win |
| 09:45.08 | kebinusan | dual screen |
| 09:45.08 | Shirik | it is widescreen :P |
| 09:45.09 | kebinusan | imo |
| 09:45.18 | Shirik | but yeah I've been happier on dual screen setups |
| 09:45.21 | Shirik | I just don't have that kind of space |
| 09:45.31 | Shirik | but when I find the money I'm getting an 8 monitor setup |
| 09:45.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:45.42 | Shirik | how it's going to work exactly, I haven't figured out yet, but I'll worry about that when the time comes |
| 09:45.47 | Shirik | and I'm fairly certain I have a long time to think about it |
| 09:45.56 | nevcairiel | quad pci-express board has to go with that, eh? |
| 09:45.57 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:46.16 | Shirik | SLI x4 |
| 09:46.40 | Shirik | ~16 * 4 |
| 09:46.40 | purl | 64 |
| 09:46.43 | Shirik | hells yeah |
| 09:46.47 | Shirik | 64x data throughput |
| 09:46.51 | Shirik | my CPU would cry |
| 09:47.02 | kebinusan | but will it run crysis |
| 09:47.05 | Shirik | or the DMA controller |
| 09:47.09 | Shirik | but something would cry |
| 09:47.24 | nevcairiel | the gfx cards would cry out of boredom |
| 09:47.25 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 09:47.42 | Shirik | no I'll code them something to do |
| 09:47.53 | Shirik | have them start calculating the perfect sphere or something |
| 09:47.54 | chexsum_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:48.07 | Shirik | volume calculations, etc., to 50000000 digits |
| 09:48.18 | Shirik | then a 2d projection |
| 09:48.18 | Shirik | and bam |
| 09:48.22 | Shirik | perfect sphere |
| 09:48.24 | kebinusan | 2x 22" maybe |
| 09:48.47 | kebinusan | 1 full screen for gaming, one for porn/movies/web browsing while gaming |
| 09:48.55 | chexsum_ | id get neck craps with anything bigger |
| 09:49.08 | nevcairiel | move a tad bit away from the screen :) |
| 09:49.11 | chexsum_ | cramps too |
| 09:49.17 | Shirik | I really want a projector tbh |
| 09:49.23 | Shirik | I have this huge white wall too |
| 09:49.23 | chexsum_ | cant im short sighted |
| 09:49.40 | Shirik | so wear glasses >< |
| 09:49.46 | Shirik | actually I take that back, you're not supposed to |
| 09:49.46 | chexsum_ | i do :P |
| 09:49.51 | Shirik | at least I'm not :P |
| 09:50.00 | chexsum_ | why not |
| 09:50.24 | chexsum_ | all the cool geeks wear specs |
| 09:50.46 | chexsum_ | look at bill gates! |
| 09:53.06 | Shirik | I prefer not to be compared to bill gates |
| 09:53.13 | Shirik | however I do wear, as you say, "specs." |
| 09:53.15 | Shirik | Just not at a computer |
| 09:53.20 | chexsum_ | frag noobs or smite noobs... decisions decisions |
| 09:53.24 | Shirik | it hurts my eyes and I have been told there is a reason for that :P |
| 09:54.40 | Shirik | curses |
| 09:54.42 | Shirik | foiled again |
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| 10:08.27 | Thorgard | Had I been here twenty minutes ago I would've replyed to "< chexsum_> id get neck craps with anything bigger" with an "That's what she said!". :/ |
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| 10:13.17 | CIA-9 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 10:13.17 | CIA-9 | - add zhTW translation |
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| 10:16.08 | CIA-9 | GridStatusLifebloom: |
| 10:16.08 | CIA-9 | - add zhTW & zhCN translation |
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| 10:19.19 | theoddone33 | ahh so close to 58 |
| 10:20.33 | Xinhuan | BR DOWN |
| 10:20.45 | Xinhuan | only took 10 min crash from start of lag |
| 10:20.57 | Elkano | BR? |
| 10:21.00 | Xinhuan | blackrock |
| 10:21.19 | Thorgard | Isn't that normal? |
| 10:21.21 | Xinhuan | best us server :D |
| 10:21.29 | theoddone33 | in my battlegroup |
| 10:21.39 | Xinhuan | i mean, we only have 18 guilds in BT all trying to kill najentus at the same time ;p |
| 10:21.41 | theoddone33 | pretty sure illidan is the best us server |
| 10:21.56 | theoddone33 | I don't play there though |
| 10:22.05 | Xinhuan | last week another guild killed illidan, so 14 illidan kiling guilds now |
| 10:22.21 | theoddone33 | bg7 owns for pve |
| 10:22.30 | Xinhuan | negative :D |
| 10:22.33 | Xinhuan | bg9 > bg7! |
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| 10:22.42 | theoddone33 | I might be thinking of a different server then |
| 10:22.50 | theoddone33 | I thought blackrock was in mine but I guess it was black something else |
| 10:23.07 | Xinhuan | bg9 == blackrock/tichondrius |
| 10:23.20 | theoddone33 | ahhhh blackHAND |
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| 10:24.03 | theoddone33 | 7 of the top 20 guilds on wowjustsu us are bg7 |
| 10:25.57 | Xinhuan | where is blackrock and tich? ;d |
| 10:25.59 | theoddone33 | not that I care about pve at all, but I thought that was kind of impressive |
| 10:26.05 | theoddone33 | oh wowjutsu? |
| 10:26.08 | theoddone33 | on |
| 10:26.09 | Xinhuan | ya |
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| 10:26.28 | theoddone33 | the core is the top from either of those at 21 |
| 10:26.48 | Xinhuan | there is a sort by server listing |
| 10:26.51 | Xinhuan | go look for it |
| 10:27.21 | theoddone33 | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/battlegroup/ |
| 10:27.30 | theoddone33 | is shadowburn bg9? |
| 10:27.38 | Xinhuan | bloodlust is bg9 |
| 10:27.40 | magma | bg8 |
| 10:27.44 | theoddone33 | rampage is bg7 |
| 10:27.45 | [dRaCo] | Elkano: ping |
| 10:27.46 | magma | shadowburn = bg8 |
| 10:27.53 | Xinhuan | i wonder how they rank bgs |
| 10:28.06 | theoddone33 | the same way they rank guilds I imagine |
| 10:28.11 | theoddone33 | except added together |
| 10:28.25 | theoddone33 | should be on the faq in anyc ase |
| 10:28.52 | theoddone33 | it's not the most useful measure |
| 10:28.57 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/blackrock/ |
| 10:28.57 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 10:28.59 | Xinhuan | i was incorrect |
| 10:29.03 | Xinhuan | 17 guilds on blackrock has killed illidan |
| 10:29.06 | Xinhuan | not 14 |
| 10:29.08 | Elkano | [dRaCo]: pong! |
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| 10:30.45 | [dRaCo] | Having a weird issue with EBB... it's already on the forums, but the suggestions there didn't help |
| 10:30.48 | [dRaCo] | got a momentß |
| 10:31.03 | Elkano | well, give it a try ;) |
| 10:31.34 | [dRaCo] | LSM-3.0 installed, SharedMedia installed |
| 10:31.42 | [dRaCo] | Pitbull's got all the textures I want |
| 10:32.05 | [dRaCo] | but EBB just has got the default blizz one |
| 10:32.13 | Xinhuan | still stuck on loading screen on blackrock zzzz |
| 10:32.48 | [dRaCo] | any idea on how to debug that? |
| 10:33.06 | nevcairiel | i would've long switched server if stuff like that happens every day Xinhuan |
| 10:33.14 | Xinhuan | never! |
| 10:33.16 | Elkano | do you have SharedMedia or SharedMedia-2.0? |
| 10:33.22 | Xinhuan | its THE australian server |
| 10:33.27 | Xinhuan | the rest are shit |
| 10:33.30 | nevcairiel | you're not australian |
| 10:33.36 | Xinhuan | i'm 2 hours away from aus |
| 10:33.37 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 10:33.51 | nevcairiel | i'm one hour away from GB, still play on a german server |
| 10:33.52 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:34.08 | [dRaCo] | Elkano: just SM-2.0 |
| 10:34.13 | theoddone33 | that's gotta be rough |
| 10:34.21 | theoddone33 | I have a hard enough time playing on a server that's 2 hours off my local time |
| 10:34.29 | [dRaCo] | lemme guess, I need SM without any numbers attached? ;) |
| 10:34.45 | Thorgard | [dRaCo], nope. ;P |
| 10:35.00 | Thorgard | [dRaCo], 'cause I've got both.. and no cookie. :/ |
| 10:35.03 | Elkano | yeah... SM-2.0 was a bad idea to begin with... SM now supports all four media libs |
| 10:35.24 | Xinhuan | we manage |
| 10:35.27 | [dRaCo] | so I can get rid of it? |
| 10:35.32 | Xinhuan | because our server has a diversity from every country |
| 10:35.40 | Xinhuan | such that there is always people online at any hour |
| 10:35.47 | Xinhuan | from US, NZ, Aus, SG, Hongkong, etc |
| 10:36.05 | Elkano | running only EBB and SM on PTR works for me, so if it doesn't for you there's something else screwing up |
| 10:36.21 | [dRaCo] | k, thanks |
| 10:37.16 | Diao | this is sad |
| 10:37.24 | Diao | my priest alt has 2v2 arena ratings nearly as good as my warrior main |
| 10:37.27 | Diao | and he's nowhere near as geared :\ |
| 10:38.04 | Thorgard | Diao, learn2playwarrior? ;P |
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| 10:38.25 | Diao | actually i'm very good at warrior |
| 10:38.27 | Diao | :( |
| 10:38.32 | Diao | my partner is just severely undergeared |
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| 10:38.39 | nevcairiel | exchange him? :) |
| 10:39.03 | Diao | i've had trouble finding people who play arenas at the times i do |
| 10:39.17 | Diao | and used to play with a pvp geared pally but war/pal loses to too many matchups |
| 10:39.34 | theoddone33 | yay 58! |
| 10:39.38 | Diao | grats |
| 10:39.43 | theoddone33 | it's the new 69 |
| 10:39.45 | theoddone33 | er 60 |
| 10:40.19 | Orionshock | grrr... ffs nagrand down |
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| 10:45.29 | Xinhuan | welcome to bg9 Orionshock |
| 10:45.40 | CIA-9 | 03xinhuan * r63662 10BankItems/ (6 files): BankItems: Add option to ignore soulbound unstackable items (i.e it only stacks to 1) for the tooltip information. |
| 10:45.52 | Xinhuan | so far 47 minutes of downtime has allowed me to actually code an extra feature |
| 10:46.11 | CIA-9 | 03phyber * r63663 10FuBar_BagFu/ (BagFu.lua BagFuLocale-frFR.lua): |
| 10:46.11 | CIA-9 | FuBar_BagFu: |
| 10:46.11 | CIA-9 | - Updated French translation. Strings provided by wishmaster on the forums. |
| 10:46.11 | CIA-9 | - local _G = _G -- Instead of getfenv(0). |
| 10:46.40 | CIA-9 | 03trh * r63664 10VanasKoS/modules/DistributedTracker.lua: VanasKoS: maybe-fix |
| 10:46.55 | Elkano | what's bad about getfenv(0)? |
| 10:47.22 | Xinhuan | its a function call ;d |
| 10:47.23 | phyber | nothing, but I'm saving some people a few bytes of hard drive space! |
| 10:47.32 | Kuja^ | yay |
| 10:47.32 | Xinhuan | _G is a table lookup ;d |
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| 10:52.44 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * r65501457bd 10TourGuide/ (QuestTracking.lua StatusFrame.lua TourGuide.lua): Cleanup of pet skill tracking, make it store across sessions |
| 10:52.46 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * rae12be4cee 10TourGuide/: Merge branch 'Issue254-PetTrainingPatch' |
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| 10:54.47 | baer_ | Moin. |
| 10:56.26 | baer_ | I need some configuration help with grid - I want to resize the "unitframes" without scaling them above 1.0, but can't find an option for this (as I presume, it must be somewhere, but simply can't find it) :) |
| 10:56.33 | evl | Tekkub: <3 TG, never been able to level so comatosed yet so fast :D |
| 10:57.23 | Tekkub | :P makes me not mind leveling so much... cause I'm actually working on my addon |
| 10:57.54 | Diao | o_O why would you want to resize unitframes without scaling them |
| 10:58.54 | baer_ | Diao: it's quite simple - the fontsize and stuff is fine, I just want a bigger frame. |
| 10:59.29 | Elkano | change width and height? |
| 10:59.42 | baer_ | Elkano: where? :) |
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| 11:00.04 | Elkano | somewhere deep in the dewdrop |
| 11:01.04 | baer_ | Elkano: i guessed so. |
| 11:01.26 | Elkano | I think it was in one of the advanced sections |
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| 11:02.50 | Thorgard | Frame->Advanced->Frame Height/Width? |
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| 11:03.40 | Elkano | sounds reasonable |
| 11:04.42 | Thorgard | It's the truf, suh! I jus' checked! |
| 11:07.13 | baer_ | Thorgard: thanks. |
| 11:11.06 | Thorgard | How is TourGuide? |
| 11:12.02 | Elkano | lol, just happend on tournament ptr: "Why does my Druid set not show up on the leater merchant? *pause* Oh crap, I rolled a warrior..." |
| 11:12.11 | CIA-9 | TourGuide: 03tekkub 07master * r17daa68a83 10TourGuide/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Convert tame-for-skill objectives to new PET objective |
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| 11:15.46 | Thorgard | Does TourGuide come with guides included or is it just the framework to present guides? |
| 11:15.58 | keiss | included |
| 11:16.05 | nevcairiel | it does come with guides included |
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| 11:20.35 | CIA-9 | 03yleaf * r63665 10oRA2_PvPDetection/Pvp.lua: oRA2_PvPDetection: update zhCN locale |
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| 11:37.23 | baer_ | is there a way to change the size of the input window (the window where I type the stuff in wow) to something smaller? or is it handled thru the "ui scaling" within the game options? |
| 11:37.28 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07RC1 * r63666 10Ace3/AceDBOptions-3.0/AceDBOptions-3.0.lua: |
| 11:37.28 | CIA-9 | Ace3 - AceDBOptions-3.0 |
| 11:37.28 | CIA-9 | - added locale support |
| 11:37.28 | CIA-9 | - Translators: DO NOT commit to this file directly, submit translations to the Ace3 Devs on the forums, IRC or Jira |
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| 11:40.15 | Thorgard | Hmm |
| 11:40.32 | Thorgard | Am I missing something or is TourGuide's config/options more or less non-existant? |
| 11:40.54 | [Ammo] | what is there to config |
| 11:41.14 | nevcairiel | Thorgard: press esc, select OptionHouse, navigate to tourguide |
| 11:41.17 | Thorgard | ize, |
| 11:41.24 | CIA-9 | 03phanx * r63667 10Automaton/modules/Repair.lua: |
| 11:41.24 | CIA-9 | Automaton: |
| 11:41.24 | CIA-9 | - Repair: really fixed it this time, I swear! |
| 11:41.28 | Thorgard | Ah. |
| 11:41.34 | [Ammo] | or rightclick the tourguide thing |
| 11:41.36 | [Ammo] | and click on config |
| 11:41.39 | Thorgard | Err |
| 11:41.48 | Elkano | 3Nihao 7RC1 * r63668 10Ace3/AceDBOptions-3.0/AceDBOptions-3.0.lua: added zhCN locale |
| 11:42.00 | nevcairiel | what i noticed earlier, TourGuide is disabled by default |
| 11:42.05 | [Ammo] | oh noes teh chinese! |
| 11:42.06 | nevcairiel | when you install it |
| 11:42.07 | Thorgard | Nevermind. Same stuff. ;P One option. Was hoping for something to change the size/alpha/stuff |
| 11:42.33 | keiss | Elkano: :D |
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| 11:48.23 | Thorgard | lol |
| 11:48.31 | Thorgard | That's funnay. |
| 11:49.29 | Thorgard | "DO NOT commit to this file directly", minutes later "added zhCN locale". Did they actually submit the translation to the forums/IRC/Jira, nevcairiel? |
| 11:49.41 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 11:49.51 | [Ammo] | Elkano: one took the bait! |
| 11:50.00 | Thorgard | dOh |
| 11:50.17 | Thorgard | It's 6am. ;P My bad |
| 11:54.11 | Thorgard | Anyone know if Quartz' SwingTimer does autoshots? |
| 11:55.10 | Kalroth | it does |
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| 11:55.36 | CIA-9 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:55.36 | CIA-9 | - zhCN fixed |
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| 12:37.52 | cncfanatics | hello all |
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| 12:50.03 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63669 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: added support for background tiliing |
| 12:50.27 | CIA-9 | 03kagaro 07Ace3 * r63670 10kgPanelsConfig/ (Locales/kgPanels-enUS.lua PanelHelper.lua kgPanelsConfig.lua): kgPanelsConfig: added support for Background Tiliing |
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| 12:51.25 | cladhaire | what IS kgPanels? |
| 12:53.03 | [Ammo] | pretty textures etc you can set behind around frames etc |
| 12:53.08 | [Ammo] | basically UI design for nubbers |
| 12:57.34 | Kalroth | pretty |
| 12:58.03 | Ellipsis | aww, thanks |
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| 13:26.30 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r63671 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-deDE.lua: GatherMate: deDE update |
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| 13:30.13 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 13:30.13 | CIA-9 | - zhCN update |
| 13:35.02 | kebinusan | If someone has the time, FuBar_BagFu\BagFuLocale-frFR.lua:24: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 3) near '[' |
| 13:38.50 | CIA-9 | 037destiny * r63673 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): |
| 13:38.50 | CIA-9 | PitBull |
| 13:38.50 | CIA-9 | - koKR Update |
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| 13:40.04 | kenlyric | damn those frenchies |
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| 13:41.05 | kebinusan | too bad the svn precommit thing cant check for syntax errors |
| 13:41.18 | Ellipsis | too bad translators can't check for syntax errors....oh wait |
| 13:41.27 | kebinusan | Ellipsis: true enough |
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| 13:42.56 | haste | too bad you don't use git which can check for that! |
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| 13:45.08 | Hjalte | In our raids, we usually have a group with an elemental shaman, a boomkin druid, a shadow priest and then 2x warlock. Then we have a group with usually a resto shaman, maybe a shadow priest and 3x mages. Our raid leader ( a warlock) is putting warlocks in the first group defending it with them needing crit for ISB - What do you guys say would be fair? |
| 13:45.09 | [Ammo] | need to do cheap outsourcing of coding |
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| 13:46.06 | Grum | Hjalte: why warlocks? |
| 13:46.21 | Hjalte | Grum: Because of the ISB, as I wrote :) |
| 13:46.26 | Grum | ISB .. = ? |
| 13:46.30 | Grum | the crit aura? |
| 13:46.50 | Grum | and what do the healers get? |
| 13:47.08 | nevcairiel | Improved Shadow Bolt |
| 13:47.38 | Grum | ISB is something that locks leave beghind right? so no boomkin/shaman/shadowpriest needed |
| 13:47.47 | nevcairiel | but only when they crit |
| 13:47.52 | Hjalte | Mages are claiming that they have the rights to be in the first, clearly superior caster group, too at some points. |
| 13:48.03 | Grum | in either case - i'd *NEVER* put a shadowpriest with a warlock |
| 13:48.06 | Grum | its just a waste of mana |
| 13:48.10 | nevcairiel | its not |
| 13:48.12 | Grum | it is |
| 13:48.15 | Grum | just heal em >< |
| 13:48.22 | nevcairiel | i prefer giving the warlocks a shadow then the healers |
| 13:48.36 | nevcairiel | they still have to waste time on tapping |
| 13:48.37 | kovi | lifetapping = dpsloss |
| 13:48.37 | Grum | alive raid > faster dying mobs |
| 13:48.39 | Ellipsis | spriest healing + spriest mana = sustainable warlock |
| 13:48.56 | Josh_Borke | spriest healing = dead spriest |
| 13:49.06 | Grum | yeah |
| 13:49.13 | Grum | VE is waaaay to much aggro |
| 13:49.21 | kebinusan | its not like any respectable healer will need to worry about having a spriest after 2.4 with the increased mana gain |
| 13:49.32 | Hjalte | We usually have enough shadow priests, so that's not the problem, the situation is whether the raid leader (warlock) is right in saying that only warlocks should benefit from the elemental shaman and boomkin druid, simply because of ISB. |
| 13:49.47 | Grum | kebinusan: errrr +50mp5 is nowhere near what the shadoompriest gives |
| 13:50.07 | Grum | i agree that boomkins are better with warlocks |
| 13:50.11 | kebinusan | only 50? most of our priests are spirit whores |
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| 13:50.17 | Grum | kebinusan: then 70 |
| 13:50.41 | kebinusan | Id say that destro warlocks probably get more benefit from that group comp than any mage yea |
| 13:50.56 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r63674 10BankItems/localization-deDE.lua: BankItems: deDE update |
| 13:51.00 | Grum | well assuming you dont take more than 2 shadowpriests |
| 13:51.05 | Josh_Borke | grum: i saw what you did there |
| 13:51.23 | kovi | well, mages get a lot from that group composition as well, but they don't offer any synergy |
| 13:51.39 | Grum | depends if they are frost/arcane |
| 13:51.39 | kovi | but if warlocks crit more, they increase SP dps as well |
| 13:51.40 | jy | have a solution : dont take any boomkin |
| 13:51.54 | jy | :) |
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| 13:51.59 | Grum | boomkin should with locs, shaman+shadoom should with healers/mages |
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| 13:52.09 | Grum | for the simple reason that mages without mana do 0 dmg |
| 13:52.18 | Hjalte | Okay, let's say one of the shadow destru warlocks decide to spec fire - What group should he be in? :P |
| 13:52.21 | Grum | and warlocks have unlimited mana |
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| 13:52.43 | Iboong-Kenzo | [2008/03/05 16:41:44-2143-x1]: PitBull_EstimatedHeals\EstimatedHeals.lua:295: attempt to index field 'args' (a function value) - what is this? |
| 13:52.50 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: group 8 |
| 13:52.59 | Ellipsis | Iboong-Kenzo: your pitbull is way out of date |
| 13:53.00 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: <3 |
| 13:53.16 | Iboong-Kenzo | Ellipsis, yesterday updated |
| 13:53.17 | Ellipsis | hehe <3 Hjalte |
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| 13:53.27 | Ellipsis | Iboong-Kenzo: then you don't have "delete before updating" on, I take it |
| 13:53.32 | Ellipsis | just remove the estimated heals folder |
| 13:53.33 | kebinusan | keeping ISB up is a pretty significant dps boost to all the locks and spriests tho |
| 13:53.42 | Iboong-Kenzo | ok ty |
| 13:53.43 | Ellipsis | that module was replaced with the VisualHeal one |
| 13:54.10 | Grum | kebinusan: shadoompriest dmg scales crap anyhow :) |
| 13:54.31 | Josh_Borke | shadowpriests don't go oom! |
| 13:54.34 | Josh_Borke | ok, maybe they do, but still! |
| 13:54.34 | Ellipsis | Grum: wtf are you, a rogue? |
| 13:54.55 | Ellipsis | next you're going to say "blue mana runs out, yellow mana lasts forever!" |
| 13:55.09 | Grum | its all true :( |
| 13:55.24 | Grum | shadowpriests get most of their dmg ticks from mindflay |
| 13:55.31 | thul_ | grum, grim, rogue |
| 13:55.36 | thul_ | should be obivous |
| 13:55.42 | Grum | and mindflay scales broken with +dmg because of the 'snare penalty' |
| 13:55.52 | Grum | nah, priestling here, squishy kind |
| 13:56.08 | Ellipsis | ...I know...I was joking |
| 13:56.54 | Hjalte | kebinusan: Removing eg. the boomkin druid from the warlock group and moving it to the mages only makes the buff stay up ~62% instead of ~69%, which is of course a dps nerf, but enough to warrant never letting the mages have any of the real boosts? |
| 13:57.47 | kebinusan | I dont see the big deal, people just want to wave their e-peen about personal dps |
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| 13:58.04 | kebinusan | clearly I should have 3 bm hunters and a spriest in my group to really pad the meters |
| 13:58.31 | Grum | btw, a BM hunter with mage/locks also works O.o |
| 13:58.43 | Grum | their ~80dmg boost also works on spells somehow |
| 13:59.27 | kebinusan | Id just tell the mages to stop their whining, mages should be prioritizing decursing and CC over dps anyway... |
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| 14:00.02 | Hjalte | kebinusan: That's what we usually say :P (Don't tell the mages, but we joke about only bringing them for sheep) |
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| 14:01.03 | jy | water ! |
| 14:01.19 | kebinusan | and to port us home after we're done doing the hard work |
| 14:02.14 | kebinusan | I wish there were something that provided most of the details of WWS that could be hosted on my own site |
| 14:02.58 | Hjalte | kebinusan: Weren't you able to host WWS locally at some point? |
| 14:03.16 | kebinusan | yous till can but they dont provide nearly the detail of hosted reports |
| 14:05.09 | Grum | kebinusan: which is the reason you 'need' the account ;D |
| 14:05.53 | kebinusan | yeah I should pay for one |
| 14:06.56 | kenlyric | nice |
| 14:07.02 | kenlyric | a ahield with 1 stamina and 9 spirit |
| 14:07.11 | kenlyric | to replace my shield with 10 stamina |
| 14:07.14 | kenlyric | clear upgrade! |
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| 14:10.50 | cogumel0 | what's the max coordinates in x any y in the map? |
| 14:11.18 | Grum | 100/100 |
| 14:11.32 | Grum | or 99.999999999999999999999 / 99.999999999999999999999 |
| 14:11.39 | Grum | you get the idea :) |
| 14:11.56 | Grum | its [0-1]*100 |
| 14:12.04 | Grum | with 0,0 being 'invalid' |
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| 14:12.07 | cogumel0 | well to be more exact it would be ]0,99[ then :P |
| 14:12.31 | Grum | well 100/100 would be just on the outside of the last pixel :p |
| 14:12.46 | cogumel0 | gah, I'm having some problems trying to find out the y coordenate of the mouse according to the position and scale of the map |
| 14:13.17 | renchap | cogumel0: ]0;100[ |
| 14:13.23 | cogumel0 | first because mouse cords start from the bottom... which is not much of a problem if you subtract the height and multiply by -1 ... |
| 14:13.32 | cogumel0 | true renchap, my mistake |
| 14:13.44 | cogumel0 | but then 0 is closed, it can be 0 (if you are in an instance etc) |
| 14:13.54 | cogumel0 | so it's [0,100[ |
| 14:14.01 | cogumel0 | :P |
| 14:14.02 | Grum | no |
| 14:14.07 | Grum | 0,0 means 'invalid coordinates' |
| 14:14.35 | MentalPower | err... no |
| 14:14.42 | cogumel0 | well, kind of... it's a valid coordenate for wow, but wow just doens't do anything with it. doesn't mean it's outside wow's level of understanding |
| 14:14.42 | MentalPower | 0 <= x <= 1 |
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| 14:15.44 | cogumel0 | but position 0,0 exists. that's my point |
| 14:16.04 | MentalPower | I think you're confused, you see the current coordinates are literally "where am I on this texture" |
| 14:16.25 | MentalPower | where "this texture" is the current map |
| 14:16.50 | cogumel0 | yes, I know that... |
| 14:17.01 | Grum | posX, posY = GetPlayerMapPosition("unit"); |
| 14:17.02 | Grum | If both posX and posY are exactly 0, the position is unknown, unknowable, or not valid for the current map, i.e. |
| 14:17.04 | cogumel0 | but there's no map that has coordinate 99,99 either and the coordinates go all the way to that falue |
| 14:17.07 | cogumel0 | value* |
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| 14:17.21 | CIA-9 | - unlocking works right on the petbar now |
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| 14:17.23 | MentalPower | Grum: thats not true |
| 14:17.25 | frop | yello |
| 14:17.31 | Grum | GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 14:17.33 | MentalPower | its perfectly legal to be in 0,0 |
| 14:17.39 | MentalPower | in a specific map |
| 14:17.43 | cogumel0 | yep, exactly my point Grum! 0,0 is valid, it simply does not exist in any map |
| 14:17.46 | MentalPower | not likely, but still legal |
| 14:17.50 | cogumel0 | it is MentalPower? |
| 14:17.52 | Grum | crai |
| 14:18.03 | MentalPower | yes it is |
| 14:18.10 | cogumel0 | example? :D |
| 14:18.14 | frop | there's a way to "deny" incoming recount's and SW_Stats messagges? |
| 14:18.43 | nevcairiel | how long will you actually be on _exactly_ 0,0 ? :D |
| 14:18.51 | MentalPower | 0,0 on the Kalimdor map |
| 14:19.10 | Grum | ok |
| 14:19.13 | Grum | now first of all |
| 14:19.23 | Grum | in 'world coordinates in yards' there is a 0.0, 0.0 |
| 14:19.27 | MentalPower | you can't get there without a)GM port b)private server but its still legal, valid and possible |
| 14:19.36 | cogumel0 | in any case MentalPower, you are just giving me reason :P scope of coordinates is [0;100[ |
| 14:19.46 | Grum | 0,0 == invalid coordinates |
| 14:19.50 | Ellipsis | the origin is a lie |
| 14:20.01 | Grum | if you get 0,0 you have to assume it is not working |
| 14:20.13 | MentalPower | Grum: what exactly is 'world coordinates in yards' ? |
| 14:20.16 | cogumel0 | Grum, just because you will never be in that value does not mean the value does not exist |
| 14:20.24 | MentalPower | cogumel0: yes I know, I'm arguing against Grum |
| 14:20.37 | Grum | MentalPower: the x/y you get from GetPlayerMapPosition is not the 'real' coordinates |
| 14:20.46 | MentalPower | I know that |
| 14:20.48 | Grum | internally blizzard has a massive world grid in yards |
| 14:20.49 | nevcairiel | you can however just assume that exactly 0,0 without any floating point part is "invalid" because its so damn unlikely .. :P |
| 14:20.54 | MentalPower | I know that too |
| 14:21.09 | cogumel0 | it's just like 99,99... I'm quite sure there's no map that actually supports those coordinates, yet the system does! same with 0,0. even if the value was reserved for something else (such as being in an instance), it is a valid value supported by coordinates |
| 14:21.35 | Grum | no |
| 14:21.38 | cogumel0 | the simple fact that you do GetPlayerMapPosition("Player") and get 0,0 means the value exists |
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| 14:21.47 | cogumel0 | if it didn't exist it would return nil, error, etc. |
| 14:21.57 | Grum | its reserved for 'i can not located your playerpin on the currenctly open map' |
| 14:21.59 | Grum | *locate |
| 14:22.05 | nevcairiel | I assume that a return value of 0,0 means the player is off-map in GatherMate, and thats how it'll ever be, screw people that manage to stand on 0,0 =P |
| 14:22.09 | cogumel0 | the value might be reserved for all you like, but it exists |
| 14:22.17 | Grum | cogumel0: no, instead of doing it sensibly it returns 0,0 instead of nil,nil |
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| 14:22.40 | MentalPower | Grum: thats just the accepted convention |
| 14:22.48 | MentalPower | but you can be in 0,0 |
| 14:22.49 | cogumel0 | they could make it return nil, nil and the scope would then be different. but they didn't, therefore it exists |
| 14:22.58 | MentalPower | if the bug on the PTR still existed I could show you |
| 14:23.26 | cogumel0 | it's like the scope of a boolean being true and false instead of true and nil. |
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| 14:23.29 | Grum | MentalPower: yes you phyically can be there but you can not be there and *know* you are there by asking the wow API |
| 14:23.31 | Ellipsis | sploits are bad, mmkay? |
| 14:23.42 | MentalPower | (bug where you could port to any world coords) |
| 14:23.55 | MentalPower | Ellipsis: not sploit, bug, and its already fixed |
| 14:24.06 | nevcairiel | using a bug = exploit :) |
| 14:24.20 | nevcairiel | all exploits are bugs, essentially |
| 14:24.21 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: granted |
| 14:24.34 | cogumel0 | Grum, despite you being able to go to those coordinates or not, the original question was what is the scope of the coordinates in wow. and by the scope of the coordinates you mean the maximum and minimum values accepted and returned by wow. |
| 14:24.50 | Ellipsis | well I could say "bugs are bad, mmkay?" |
| 14:24.57 | Grum | 0, 100 then |
| 14:24.58 | Ellipsis | and it would work just as well if not better |
| 14:24.59 | Ellipsis | so there |
| 14:25.00 | cogumel0 | if the coordinates returned nil [1,100[ then the scope would be nil, [1;100[ |
| 14:25.02 | Grum | with 0,0 being invalid |
| 14:25.14 | cogumel0 | I can agree to that Grum :) |
| 14:25.17 | MentalPower | Grum: so what you're saying is that I can physically be at 0,0 but the API does not distinguish between "real" 0,0 and just "I don't know where you are"? |
| 14:25.21 | nevcairiel | it can return 0 up to 100, both sides included |
| 14:25.26 | MentalPower | if so, thats not the issue |
| 14:25.33 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: 1, not 100 |
| 14:25.40 | Grum | first of all |
| 14:25.43 | cogumel0 | nevcairiel, it would appear that it goes up to 99.(9) |
| 14:25.43 | nevcairiel | thats what i meant =P |
| 14:25.43 | Grum | it doesnt return 0-100 |
| 14:25.47 | cogumel0 | not 100 |
| 14:25.49 | Grum | it returns 0-1 |
| 14:25.57 | nevcairiel | cogumel0: i can get a return value of 1 on my map |
| 14:26.10 | Grum | cogumel0: its returns its upto 10000000000000 decimals |
| 14:26.15 | Grum | or 9 orso ;D |
| 14:26.16 | nevcairiel | but that might be a rounding thing :D |
| 14:26.30 | Grum | and its 0-1, not 0-100, its just multiplied by 100 |
| 14:26.30 | MentalPower | its a float |
| 14:26.46 | cogumel0 | on alphamap (the one I use) it goes up to 99 and then vanishes |
| 14:26.51 | MentalPower | a double precision 64bit IEEE float |
| 14:26.56 | Grum | then its broken cogumel0 |
| 14:26.58 | cogumel0 | Grum, that's not the point |
| 14:27.07 | cogumel0 | being 0-1 or 0-100 |
| 14:27.21 | nevcairiel | it'll probably go up to 0,999999999999999999999999 |
| 14:27.23 | nevcairiel | or so :P |
| 14:27.29 | nevcairiel | i just round up at some point |
| 14:27.31 | Grum | the thing what it does is: you are at: x*width, y*height on the worldmap image |
| 14:27.44 | Grum | its rather pathetic :P |
| 14:27.55 | cogumel0 | let's say I was talking in K coordinates instead of the SI unit that is the parent :) |
| 14:28.04 | nevcairiel | you can never _really_ test what the API returns unless you can actually go there |
| 14:28.19 | cogumel0 | true nevcairiel |
| 14:28.25 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: I've tested |
| 14:28.33 | cogumel0 | in any case... now that we all agreed that 0 does exist and 100 as well... |
| 14:28.39 | MentalPower | it still returns 0,0 |
| 14:28.43 | MentalPower | 1, not 100 |
| 14:28.59 | MentalPower | the range is [0,1] inclusive |
| 14:29.00 | nevcairiel | know that it returns 0-1 |
| 14:29.15 | nevcairiel | i was thinking too much in coordinates before =P |
| 14:29.16 | Grum | 0,0 is not inclusive |
| 14:29.18 | cogumel0 | ok, let's make it 0-1... now that we all agreed to that ... |
| 14:29.23 | Grum | because it returns the location of you on the image |
| 14:29.28 | Grum | pixel 1 is *NEVER* 0,0 |
| 14:29.52 | nevcairiel | Grum: you dont know that :P |
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| 14:30.18 | Grum | its math |
| 14:30.21 | cogumel0 | so Grum, can you be a X,0 or 0,Y ? |
| 14:30.26 | Grum | no |
| 14:30.29 | MentalPower | yes |
| 14:30.32 | Grum | ... |
| 14:30.34 | fgli | i've got a question.. is there any way to implement a group of checkboxes in an options window and store the values in a table without using aceoptions? |
| 14:30.40 | cogumel0 | go to the barrens and enter ashenvale |
| 14:30.43 | MentalPower | fgli: yes |
| 14:30.49 | Grum | ok give me the value of Y for which this goes: 1/y = 0 |
| 14:30.50 | fgli | with aceconsole maybe? |
| 14:31.17 | MentalPower | Grum: now you're being pedantic |
| 14:31.22 | MentalPower | fgli: dunno, I don't use Ace :) |
| 14:31.32 | Grum | no, 0,0 is not valid therefor its used as 'invalid number' |
| 14:31.38 | Grum | it just makes sense |
| 14:31.40 | MentalPower | it is valid |
| 14:31.44 | cogumel0 | it is valid |
| 14:31.48 | Grum | so the valid range is [>0,1] |
| 14:31.49 | nevcairiel | 0.99999833 was the best i could do without leaving the map :P |
| 14:31.51 | MentalPower | do what cogumel0 said |
| 14:32.01 | Grum | nevcairiel: if you get a higher resolution you can do better |
| 14:32.04 | cogumel0 | that is the same as saying nil is used for nothing therefore it doesn't exist and it's outside the scope |
| 14:32.14 | nevcairiel | Grum: i cant move my char any slowe =P |
| 14:32.23 | Grum | ;) |
| 14:32.26 | fgli | mentalpower: i made all the other stuff in the options window with aceconsole and now i don't want to change everything ;) |
| 14:32.46 | cogumel0 | Grum, I'm pretty sure that in the border of the barrens to ashenvale you will be able to get position X,0 |
| 14:32.55 | nevcairiel | oh yay another 9 :P |
| 14:33.00 | Grum | not without rounding cogumel0 |
| 14:33.03 | MentalPower | fgli: sorry, I can't help you with aceconsole, I don't use it |
| 14:33.10 | nevcairiel | you'll never reach a exact 0 |
| 14:33.15 | Grum | because you cant |
| 14:33.17 | nevcairiel | as i cant reach a exact 1 |
| 14:33.17 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:33.26 | Grum | that should be possible but *very* hard |
| 14:33.59 | Grum | ah well, just as unlikely as 0 i guess |
| 14:34.02 | cogumel0 | it makes more sense to have exact 0 than exat 1 |
| 14:34.06 | Grum | 1 would be the exact border |
| 14:34.11 | Grum | and 0 would be the same |
| 14:34.33 | fgli | is anybody else here using aceconsole? |
| 14:34.51 | cogumel0 | only reason I don't test that now is 'cause I have a level 1 char in mulgore and it would take me like half an hour to get there -.- |
| 14:34.58 | Grum | cogumel0: why bother? |
| 14:35.06 | cogumel0 | (without rounding coordinates) |
| 14:35.08 | Grum | its 0-1, if you get 0,0 you fail |
| 14:35.40 | cogumel0 | exactly! by the time I find that out everyone will have forgotten about the thsi in the first place :P |
| 14:36.09 | nevcairiel | 5.5e-6 was the best i could do =P |
| 14:36.33 | cogumel0 | in any case... I got a bigger problem right now. that does not involve the scope of the coordinates but something else. |
| 14:36.45 | Grum | tbh, we need a x,y = 'GetUnitLocation("unitid")' |
| 14:36.54 | Grum | and just dont make it work in instances if you care *THAT* much about it |
| 14:37.25 | Grum | and just give back the 'magic' ingame numbers (aka: world yards) |
| 14:37.46 | MentalPower | too useful for botting |
| 14:38.28 | cogumel0 | in trying to get the y coordinate of the mouse on the map... it doesn't go all the way to 100 -.- |
| 14:38.30 | cogumel0 | nor 99 |
| 14:38.37 | phyber | because they're using the scripting interface and not looking directly at the memory, right?! |
| 14:38.51 | cogumel0 | nor any value close to that |
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| 14:39.17 | Grum | phyber: they have the information available, in 1.X you could just ask for it |
| 14:39.29 | Grum | MentalPower: its BS that it is too useful for botting |
| 14:39.45 | Grum | atm you can just translate the coordinates back to the world X/Y |
| 14:39.51 | Grum | but its stupid to do crappy math for that |
| 14:40.01 | nevcairiel | Grum: http://nevcairiel.net/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_030508_153656.jpg |
| 14:40.02 | Grum | and it depends on which 'map' your worldmap is currently viewing |
| 14:40.06 | MentalPower | and difficult, and theres no Z |
| 14:40.08 | Grum | which is a total retard way of doing i t |
| 14:40.18 | Grum | MentalPower: if we get Z we can do sickly cool stuff |
| 14:40.27 | Grum | think of 3d engines ingame |
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| 14:40.29 | CIA-9 | Fortress: |
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| 14:40.33 | MentalPower | but we won't, so its a moot point |
| 14:40.42 | Grum | nevcairiel: rounded! ;D |
| 14:40.51 | nevcairiel | Grum: == 0 returns true |
| 14:41.08 | phyber | WTB Altimeter so I know when I'm about to crash my auto piloting bird into a mountain in blades edge, tbh. |
| 14:41.12 | Grum | ah well, thing is, if you get 0,0 back you dont know what it is and have to assume 'invalid' |
| 14:41.28 | Grum | phyber: with Z values you can indeed make that |
| 14:41.37 | MentalPower | not really |
| 14:41.40 | Grum | you can make all kinds of stupidly cool stuff |
| 14:41.49 | MentalPower | since you would need to know the terrain's elevation |
| 14:41.52 | cogumel0 | but it does exist Grum, regardless of what "you assume" or the game tells you to assume |
| 14:41.53 | phyber | Grum: you could make it if you knew where the floor was ;) |
| 14:41.57 | Grum | MentalPower: how is that a problem? |
| 14:42.05 | Grum | if you can get the Z you can find where what is by polling |
| 14:42.08 | Grum | of flying or running |
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| 14:42.16 | Grum | or extracting from wmo files |
| 14:42.36 | phyber | Grum: I think it's time to give out coords in instances. I can't see why we don't have that now. I think originally, it was because of botting, when movement wasn't protected now? who knows. :/ |
| 14:42.42 | Grum | you do have them |
| 14:42.48 | MentalPower | extract from wmo is the only real option and that would generate humongous .lua data files |
| 14:42.49 | Grum | by the use of GPSlib |
| 14:43.07 | nevcairiel | phyber: you dont have coords in instances because you dont have maps in instances, its as simple as that =P |
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| 14:43.10 | Nandini | at blizzcon it was mentioned they may add instance maps in WotLK |
| 14:43.12 | Grum | that is the stupid thing, you can get all the bloody information already but you have to hack a crapload of shit to get it |
| 14:43.16 | Pkekyo|edu | Don't you just LOVE those times life decides to completely fuck you over? :) |
| 14:43.30 | phyber | nevcairiel: lies! I've got a minimap right in the corner! ;) |
| 14:43.32 | Ellipsis | aww, Pkekyo|edu, did your crush just turn you down? |
| 14:43.48 | Grum | phyber: yeah but that is not what the wow API uses to get the location of your char atm |
| 14:43.55 | Pkekyo|edu | Ellipsis: nah...yesterday both my cellphones died...today I come home to a dead fucking tower |
| 14:43.58 | phyber | nevcairiel: although, I'm always in the center. perhaps the center is 0,0. I should try moving a little to the right sometime, perhaps the numbers will change ;) |
| 14:44.07 | Ellipsis | youch |
| 14:44.08 | nevcairiel | phyber: yeah try that |
| 14:44.12 | phyber | :p |
| 14:44.29 | phyber | Nandini: that would be cool. |
| 14:44.29 | Pkekyo|edu | and I can't afford to fix either, 'cause I'm going to london monday, and need money |
| 14:44.39 | Grum | nevcairiel: i'm curious, wouldnt it be possible to add those files by the editing of DBC files? :P |
| 14:44.55 | Grum | i think you could actually ;D |
| 14:45.12 | Grum | btw, all botting programs just read the world X/Y from memory >< |
| 14:45.13 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 14:45.20 | Grum | therefor hiding it in the wowclient is .. stupid |
| 14:45.46 | Grum | nevcairiel: you need a mapfile and the zone-id linked to it |
| 14:45.47 | Nandini | there aren't any world map region textures for instances |
| 14:45.53 | Grum | make them? |
| 14:46.08 | Pkekyo|edu | Ellipsis: hlep, needs computars n ph0ens |
| 14:46.17 | Pkekyo|edu | geif yours |
| 14:46.20 | MentalPower | you can't edit the DBC files |
| 14:46.29 | Grum | you can |
| 14:46.33 | Grum | but not legal ;D |
| 14:46.33 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|edu: you wouldn't want my computer, and I don't have a phone |
| 14:47.09 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 14:47.10 | Pkekyo|edu | meeh...I want -a- computer...and how the hell do you survive without a phone? |
| 14:47.29 | nevcairiel | with i flying mount i am sure i can get to 0,0 on some outland zone |
| 14:47.37 | Pkekyo|edu | I've been without my phones for a day, and can hardly survive thus far |
| 14:48.06 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|edu: I don't know anyone to call |
| 14:48.07 | Ellipsis | *shrug* |
| 14:48.21 | nevcairiel | altho the problem with reaching 0,0 is .. you dont know if you crossed the border yet, because it'll return 0,0 too =P |
| 14:48.46 | Pkekyo|edu | rofl Ellipsis |
| 14:49.01 | Pkekyo|edu | time to get a job and a couple of new friends then :p |
| 14:49.02 | cogumel0 | ohh, I just remembered other circunstances when 0,0 was returned |
| 14:49.14 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|edu: no thanks, I'd rather not |
| 14:49.22 | Ellipsis | besides, I have plenty of friensd |
| 14:49.23 | Pkekyo|edu | I rarely use my own phone for calling people though |
| 14:49.28 | Ellipsis | it just happens that IRC is cheaper than phone bills |
| 14:49.32 | Pkekyo|edu | mostly for mobile intarwebs access and text messages |
| 14:49.48 | Pkekyo|edu | how do you bring irc with you wherever you go? I need that secret |
| 14:49.49 | cogumel0 | try to swim from desolace to tanaris and see what the returned coordinates are :) most of the times you are not on any area at all |
| 14:49.56 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|edu: simple, I don't go anywhere |
| 14:50.07 | cogumel0 | you are on "the great sea" |
| 14:50.11 | Pkekyo|edu | bwahahaha |
| 14:50.16 | Pkekyo|edu | great selling point, Ellipsis :p |
| 14:50.21 | cogumel0 | I doubt the great sea has coordinates. |
| 14:50.42 | Pkekyo|edu | it doesn't...I vaguely remember from the time back in the days when I swam around both continents :p |
| 14:50.48 | Nandini | it doesn't have a zone map, so it doesn't, but you can be in the great sea and see yourself on other zones' maps |
| 14:51.05 | cogumel0 | sometimes only Nandini |
| 14:51.23 | cogumel0 | sometimes you are on no mans land (aka no zone) |
| 14:51.25 | Nandini | yes when you're about to enter or leave a different zone |
| 14:51.46 | Nandini | you can always see yourself on the continent scale map tho, which is freaky |
| 14:51.59 | cogumel0 | yeah, that you can |
| 14:52.01 | cogumel0 | and that is freaky |
| 14:52.04 | cogumel0 | :P |
| 14:52.11 | cogumel0 | anyway, I got a bigger problem now... |
| 14:52.12 | Nandini | like when you fly in the twisting nether in outland |
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| 14:52.28 | cogumel0 | my addon to check the x and y coordinates of the mouse on the world map is returning strange values for y |
| 14:52.41 | cogumel0 | I mean if I go to the border of the map it returns 0 as it should |
| 14:52.51 | cogumel0 | but the max value it will return is something like 0.68 |
| 14:52.54 | cogumel0 | -.- |
| 14:53.30 | cogumel0 | any ideas? |
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| 14:54.20 | CIA-9 | 03pettigrow 07Ace3 * r63678 10HandyNotes/ (HandyNotes.toc Locales/Locale-frFR.lua): HandyNotes: added french translation |
| 14:55.40 | Ellipsis | divide by effective scale? |
| 14:56.12 | cogumel0 | scale = 1 |
| 14:56.22 | Ellipsis | both frame *and* UI scale? |
| 14:56.45 | cogumel0 | yep, I got no addons for trying this except for my own |
| 14:57.00 | Ellipsis | check your video settings :P |
| 14:57.21 | cogumel0 | what about my video settings? -.- |
| 14:57.28 | Ellipsis | the UI scale slider |
| 15:00.06 | Grum | <Nandini> you can always see yourself on the continent scale map tho, which is freaky <-- remember that changing maps will also change your coordinates >< |
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| 15:01.33 | sb | morning |
| 15:01.39 | CIA-9 | 03wobin * r63679 10Xparky/Bar.lua: Xparky - Setting more details |
| 15:02.44 | Pkekyo|edu | wtb [Luck] :< |
| 15:03.10 | Ellipsis | WTS [Lucky Charm] |
| 15:04.42 | Pkekyo|edu | NEED |
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| 15:06.58 | Pkekyo|edu | blah |
| 15:08.11 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3 * r63680 10Bartender4/Bartender4/PetBar.lua: Bartender4: hide empty pet buttons |
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| 15:12.10 | Elsia | heya |
| 15:12.27 | Pkekyo|edu | hai |
| 15:12.34 | Pkekyo|edu | WTB phone, computer and luck |
| 15:12.36 | Pkekyo|edu | you has? |
| 15:13.12 | Elsia | WTS luck, 5000g |
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| 15:15.39 | Pkekyo|edu | thank fucking god |
| 15:15.41 | Pkekyo|edu | it's just the PSU |
| 15:16.52 | Elsia | see my luck works ;) |
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| 15:18.08 | Pkekyo|edu | can't afford a new PSU, nor two new phones so no, didn't work all too well :p |
| 15:18.43 | Elsia | so the psu of the phones died and killed the phones or what happened? |
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| 15:19.18 | Pkekyo|edu | no |
| 15:19.38 | Pkekyo|edu | yesterday, both of my phones died...no fucking idea why...today I came home to find that my tower had died during the day |
| 15:21.03 | Matrix110 | had the phones plugged in when they died? |
| 15:21.10 | Pkekyo|edu | no |
| 15:21.16 | Matrix110 | ok thats weird:P |
| 15:21.19 | Pkekyo|edu | one was lying on the table, the other was in my pocket |
| 15:21.28 | Matrix110 | did you have a thunderstorm |
| 15:21.29 | Matrix110 | ? |
| 15:21.31 | Pkekyo|edu | no |
| 15:21.38 | Matrix110 | then its even more weird |
| 15:21.43 | keiss | aliens |
| 15:21.55 | Matrix110 | well 1 phone can die but not 2 phones and a PSU |
| 15:22.02 | Matrix110 | though a Thunderstorm would perfectly explain it:P |
| 15:22.08 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|edu is magnetic, duh |
| 15:22.27 | nevcairiel | i concur on aliens |
| 15:22.43 | Pkekyo|edu | on the one it's the monitor that went tits up...thought it was completely retarded, as all that happens is that the display will light up and be...er...white...but the fucking alarm clock function keeps popping in the morning, can't fucking turn it off due to display being fucked; gotta rip out the battery *shrug* |
| 15:23.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:23.16 | Pkekyo|edu | and when just waking up, it takes you HELL OF A LOT OF TIME to figure that out >.< |
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| 15:23.37 | nevcairiel | it died during the night? |
| 15:23.38 | Pkekyo|edu | this was the only morning the alarm clock function on it actually had proper volume *shrugs some more* |
| 15:23.43 | nevcairiel | good that it still woek you then =P |
| 15:23.48 | Pkekyo|edu | nevcairiel: nah, yesterday, around 4pm |
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| 15:24.09 | Pkekyo|edu | the first phone died yesterday at about noon |
| 15:24.46 | keiss | ... a solar flare targeted at ur house ... |
| 15:25.06 | Elsia | I vote butterfly wing and murphy (eddie or brittney) |
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| 15:25.31 | nevcairiel | i bet its was a butterfly |
| 15:25.54 | Wobin | scary |
| 15:26.02 | Pkekyo|edu | this is going to render me either completely fucking apathic or suicidal... |
| 15:26.06 | Wobin | two of the free to air channels are running the -same- infomercial |
| 15:26.16 | Wobin | clearly it's time to go to bed |
| 15:26.33 | Wobin | or buy a Windsor Pilates "circle" |
| 15:26.41 | nevcairiel | lol wob |
| 15:26.47 | Chompers | sounds fun |
| 15:26.48 | nevcairiel | off to bed with you then :P |
| 15:27.07 | Wobin | It's a circle made out of a metal strap |
| 15:27.21 | Wobin | material cost + production would probably total out to about 83c |
| 15:27.32 | nevcairiel | i bet even less |
| 15:27.43 | Wobin | -I- could make a better one in metal shop class =P |
| 15:27.55 | Wobin | Maybe I should start selling on infomercials |
| 15:28.43 | Elsia | get chuck norris ;) |
| 15:29.46 | Pkekyo|edu | is it safe to cut off some of the molex stuff on a PSU that you're not using? (shorts etc?) |
| 15:30.06 | Matrix110 | depends on how you are doing that:P |
| 15:30.31 | EvilJohn- | it should be, but why would you do that |
| 15:30.51 | Pkekyo|edu | EvilJohn: because noone should ever have a fucking FDD these days lol |
| 15:31.10 | Pkekyo|edu | figured you could cut the wires near the PSU, strip the rubber or whatever from the part you cut off and melt it onto the end of what's still connected to the PSU |
| 15:31.27 | EvilJohn- | I guess I don't understand the ends |
| 15:31.32 | Pkekyo|edu | dunno why, I just get these ideas of what might be technically possible to do with hardware etc *shrug* |
| 15:31.34 | EvilJohn- | having the plug doesn't do anything |
| 15:31.42 | Pkekyo|edu | EvilJohn: takes up space :p |
| 15:32.00 | nevcairiel | just strap them together and store somewhere in an empty drive bay |
| 15:32.03 | nevcairiel | thats what i do :P |
| 15:32.16 | Pkekyo|edu | basicly, I have about a mile of wiring stucking out of the PSU...would help immensly to be able to remove some crap I don't use... |
| 15:32.16 | Pkekyo|edu | no empty drive bays kek |
| 15:32.20 | EvilJohn- | mine I just tucked up above the PS |
| 15:32.44 | nevcairiel | on a side not, in my main pc, i got a PSU where i can attach and remove cables as i need them |
| 15:32.46 | nevcairiel | thats useful :P |
| 15:32.48 | Stanzilla | phyber: go go fix BagFu pls :P |
| 15:32.52 | Matrix110 | i got a PSU "bay" and its made for those uber big PSUs but mine isnt one of those so i can store all cables there :P |
| 15:32.54 | phyber | Stanzilla: what's broken? |
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| 15:33.06 | Pkekyo|edu | anyways, I gotta get out and start selling myself so I can get the money for a new PSU and a couple of new phones... |
| 15:33.10 | Pkekyo|edu | laters |
| 15:33.18 | Matrix110 | nevcairiel its useful but another source of errors |
| 15:33.30 | Matrix110 | but normally it works fine |
| 15:33.31 | nevcairiel | Matrix110: never had problems with it really |
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| 15:33.39 | phyber | Stanzilla: n/m, I see it. |
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| 15:33.50 | nevcairiel | you just have to read the manual which slots can support which power levels :D |
| 15:34.10 | phyber | no, wait, I don't. i thought there was a missing ] in a translation, but there isn't. |
| 15:34.16 | phyber | Stanzilla: gief error message please :) |
| 15:34.32 | Stanzilla | phyber: [2008/03/05 16:32:27-1038-x1]: FuBar_BagFu\BagFuLocale-frFR.lua:24: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 3) near '[' |
| 15:35.00 | Matrix110 | well there can be problems with the contacts from the connectors etc. which can result in various problems but they exist with the normal connectors already aswell |
| 15:35.05 | CIA-9 | 03phyber * r63681 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-frFR.lua: |
| 15:35.05 | CIA-9 | FuBar_BagFu: |
| 15:35.05 | CIA-9 | - Fix missing comma. blame france. |
| 15:35.30 | Stanzilla | thx :P |
| 15:35.40 | Ellipsis | well who else would we blame |
| 15:35.51 | phyber | Canada! |
| 15:35.59 | Ellipsis | same diff |
| 15:37.16 | Gngsk | blame French Canadia imo |
| 15:38.09 | varaman | does anyone knows when the eu ptr available again |
| 15:39.44 | phyber | as soon as Kalgan finishes his super sized bigmac meal and resumes his nerfing. |
| 15:42.29 | cogumel0 | damn, still haven't been able to fix the problems with my mouse y coordinate |
| 15:42.57 | cogumel0 | max it goes to is 0.68 or so :S |
| 15:43.57 | cogumel0 | the ui scale is 100%, the map scale is 100% and that is actually taken into account ... |
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| 15:44.13 | cogumel0 | it has to be something in my formula then -.- |
| 15:44.38 | EvilJohn- | Kalgan seems more like a double quarter pounder kinda guy to me |
| 15:44.59 | keiss | hm in Routes the 'Select Zone' dropdown in 'Add' only has outland zones listed + whichever zone iam in (like 'The Hinterlands') is that intended ? (i cant create routes for non-outland zones until i actually am in that zone) |
| 15:45.21 | Josh_Borke | keiss: yes |
| 15:45.37 | keiss | bit weird tbh |
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| 15:46.12 | nevcairiel | keiss: Routes only work effective when you can fly, because it doesnt know about the landscape, aka it would send you through mountains and all |
| 15:46.30 | nevcairiel | altho with the new "Taboo" settings .. ping Xinhuan about it =P |
| 15:46.52 | vhaarr | haste: ping |
| 15:46.57 | haste | vhaarr: pong |
| 15:47.01 | keiss | well, iam leveling mining on an alt so i stumbled upon it .. |
| 15:47.07 | cogumel0 | MouseY = (((CursorY/WorldMapFrame:GetScale())-(WorldMapDetailFrame:GetCenter()-WorldMapDetailFrame:GetHeight()/2))-WorldMapDetailFrame:GetHeight()) |
| 15:47.12 | vhaarr | haste: it seems like the target casting bar isn't working in oCB |
| 15:47.16 | cogumel0 | I can't figure out what's wrong there |
| 15:47.22 | vhaarr | haste: the one from your gcode |
| 15:47.24 | haste | vhaarr: enable it in interface options |
| 15:47.27 | vhaarr | oh |
| 15:47.43 | haste | I just rape the default one |
| 15:47.56 | vhaarr | there it is, thanks |
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| 15:52.54 | Xinhuan | keiss: you can create zones in any zone you want |
| 15:53.11 | Xinhuan | keiss: the dropdown, by default, only lists outlands zones + your current zone + your currently viewed map zone |
| 15:53.11 | keiss | Xinhuan: come again |
| 15:53.28 | Xinhuan | so if you want to make a route in Hinterlands, just zoom your map to Hinterlands |
| 15:53.32 | Xinhuan | and it'll appear in the dropdown |
| 15:53.33 | keiss | Xinhuan: ok ... i was just wondering if it wasnt a bug |
| 15:53.38 | keiss | k thx |
| 15:53.43 | Xinhuan | there's no way i can fit 40 zones in there |
| 15:53.54 | keiss | i guess it makes sense |
| 15:54.04 | Xinhuan | and it isn't really practical for routes to be used in azeroth except in relatively flat zones |
| 15:54.19 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r63682 10DaPortrait/Constants.lua: |
| 15:54.19 | CIA-9 | DaPortrait: |
| 15:54.19 | CIA-9 | - Adjust a few models |
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| 15:58.16 | evl | whats the secret password to show tinytips options menu? |
| 15:58.23 | evl | I just dl'ed the new version |
| 15:58.31 | Ellipsis | there isn't one, afaik |
| 15:58.43 | evl | aha |
| 15:58.50 | Ellipsis | you could try "open sesame" though |
| 15:58.58 | Ellipsis | it probably won't work but it will be amusing for us to watch |
| 15:59.11 | haste | I bet opening the lua is a nice way to configuring it |
| 16:00.36 | dylanm | Do the lua. I don't think the Options module works very much at all. |
| 16:00.45 | nevcairiel | thrae is working on the options |
| 16:00.47 | dylanm | I mean he hasn't updated it. |
| 16:00.50 | dylanm | YET. |
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| 16:04.03 | Grum | dylanm: yeah he broke it ;D |
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| 16:10.43 | kagaro | ~seen rabbit |
| 16:10.48 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@LSt-Amand-152-33-1-196.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 48d 4h 21m 33s ago, saying: 'Hi'. |
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| 16:12.20 | kagaro | vhaarr: ping |
| 16:12.53 | vhaarr | pong |
| 16:13.16 | kagaro | vhaarr: do you mind if I add a name to the Violation frames? |
| 16:14.10 | vhaarr | no |
| 16:14.47 | kagaro | k, ill add a real simple Violationxxx to the frame name |
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| 16:15.46 | RaydenUni | "The Horde needs an annoying little race to balance out gnomes." |
| 16:15.47 | RaydenUni | wrong |
| 16:15.48 | RaydenUni | fail |
| 16:15.58 | dylanm | We need even bigger races. |
| 16:16.02 | RaydenUni | ogres |
| 16:16.10 | dylanm | TUSKARR :( |
| 16:16.20 | RaydenUni | and this person argues that Naga would be a cool playable race |
| 16:16.22 | RaydenUni | not going to argue that |
| 16:16.33 | RaydenUni | but then they say that they should be alliance because of their relation to night elves... |
| 16:16.41 | RaydenUni | i think that's a pretty good reason for them to not be alliance |
| 16:16.45 | dylanm | I'd take kobold actually. |
| 16:17.04 | dylanm | Just run around muttering about candles. |
| 16:17.10 | dylanm | And never dropping ore samples. |
| 16:17.12 | CIA-9 | 03kunda * r63683 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: |
| 16:17.12 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: |
| 16:17.12 | CIA-9 | - revert to r63629 because r63632 is not UTF-8 encoded |
| 16:17.12 | CIA-9 | - deDE update |
| 16:17.38 | phyber | I think those "Roach"es that are in random instances could be a cool race to play. |
| 16:17.53 | RaydenUni | a fricken spider resisted my SWD in kara last night |
| 16:17.55 | RaydenUni | stupid spider |
| 16:18.05 | Elkano | kagaro, wrt SM-2.0, I vote for removing it from trunk... but well... |
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| 16:18.07 | RaydenUni | i made it a point to kill all of his brethren after that for his insolence |
| 16:18.34 | RaydenUni | why do people keep saying goblins should be horde... |
| 16:18.41 | kagaro | Elkano: its just confusion at this point |
| 16:18.41 | RaydenUni | i guess they were in the RTS games |
| 16:18.45 | RaydenUni | but they are different in wow |
| 16:18.56 | RaydenUni | they don't fit with horde at all i don't think |
| 16:19.12 | dylanm | They should get a choice. |
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| 16:19.25 | Elkano | well, kagaro, I'm not related to SM-2.0, only to the original SM. So I won't touch it |
| 16:19.58 | ulic | in WC3 I believe they were nuetral. |
| 16:20.05 | kagaro | im not either, and author is ust listed as lots of people, maybe a thread for a vote and go form tehre |
| 16:20.17 | RaydenUni | did they announce 2.4 will have a threatmeterr? |
| 16:20.23 | RaydenUni | ulic in warcraft 2 they were horde |
| 16:20.28 | RaydenUni | the goblin sappers |
| 16:20.45 | RaydenUni | but yeah in war3 i think neutral |
| 16:21.32 | RaydenUni | i think the goblin sappers were in the war3 beta... |
| 16:21.36 | RaydenUni | but i forget |
| 16:22.09 | Elkano | kagaro, noticed SM also doesn't list me as the author anymore :/ |
| 16:22.32 | kagaro | i just looked at the toc for sm-2 and its doesnt specifiy anyone in particular |
| 16:23.23 | Kemayo | RaydenUni: A threatmeter is coming, but they've been very vague about when. It's definitely not in the PTR. |
| 16:24.12 | RaydenUni | yeah it's on some ptr list on wowinsider |
| 16:24.43 | nevcairiel | they said the threatmeter is planned for wotlk |
| 16:24.50 | nevcairiel | "planned" and nothing else |
| 16:25.28 | RaydenUni | that's what i thought |
| 16:27.20 | Stanzilla | kagaro: Funkeh` made SM-2.0 and should delete it :P |
| 16:27.57 | Elkano | kagaro, SM-2.0 was simply a copy of SM using LSM-2.0 instead of SML-1.0 |
| 16:28.12 | kagaro | well im not deleting anything, but there is a lot of confusion going on SM vs LibSM |
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| 16:28.44 | kagaro | the post i up said, lets just rename it to something it to remove te confusion |
| 16:28.45 | Stanzilla | yeah but SM-2.0 is still useless because SM does the job now |
| 16:28.58 | Fisker- | IE8 beta tonight probably :o |
| 16:29.05 | kagaro | Fisker-: *shiver* |
| 16:29.06 | Stanzilla | SM inserts into all the three libs |
| 16:29.26 | nevcairiel | oh noes the web will break!!11 |
| 16:29.39 | kagaro | wonder if they fixed png rendering yet |
| 16:29.49 | nevcairiel | alpha channel, you mean? |
| 16:30.00 | kagaro | yeah that :P |
| 16:30.14 | doc^blup | wonder how fast it will be |
| 16:30.21 | chiper | fisker: and it still wont be compatible with standards |
| 16:30.26 | phyber | they upgraded to the Ex plus Alpha Hyper Edition channel. |
| 16:30.39 | phyber | the dev was a streetfigher fan. |
| 16:30.44 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/03/04/omen-in-patch-2-4-even-bigger-even-better/ |
| 16:31.33 | nevcairiel | chiper: they said standard compliance was one of their main goals, at least its supposed to pass acid2 .. but *shrug |
| 16:31.46 | kagaro | acid3 test is out isnt it |
| 16:31.51 | nevcairiel | it is? |
| 16:31.53 | Stanzilla | beta |
| 16:31.58 | Stanzilla | it's not finished |
| 16:32.03 | chiper | I wont be satisfied until I dont have to put a user-agent check in |
| 16:32.06 | kagaro | ahh, i recall seeing a note about it the other day |
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| 16:32.33 | nevcairiel | acid3 is a JS test, acid2 is css |
| 16:32.35 | chiper | right now my current project works in Firefox, Safari, Opera, khtml, and Camino, without me having to do a damn thing |
| 16:32.38 | nevcairiel | FF3 fails Acid3 :( |
| 16:33.09 | nevcairiel | hahahaha IE7 crashes on Acid3 |
| 16:33.10 | RaydenUni | cool |
| 16:33.17 | RaydenUni | omen 2.0 will let you track threat on all mobs |
| 16:33.31 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 16:33.43 | RaydenUni | it's not possible to track threat on mobs that aren't being targetted though is it? |
| 16:33.56 | chiper | rayden: yes, it's based on the combat log |
| 16:33.57 | nevcairiel | RaydenUni: it is |
| 16:34.12 | chiper | combat log gets data regardless of if you're even attacking it |
| 16:34.21 | RaydenUni | the combat log will list mobs who get threat from healing? |
| 16:34.31 | EvilJohn- | yes |
| 16:34.31 | RaydenUni | so now you will be able to comprise a list of all mobs in combat? |
| 16:34.36 | RaydenUni | cause you couldn't do that before |
| 16:34.45 | EvilJohn- | if it was in range, sure you could |
| 16:34.56 | nevcairiel | RaydenUni: yes you can, mobs have a unique ID, so you can store which mobs acted in your area |
| 16:35.06 | RaydenUni | then how come whenever i asked for a mod that listed all mobs in combat, people said it wasn't possible |
| 16:35.12 | chiper | it will display all heals that occur. |
| 16:35.24 | nevcairiel | RaydenUni: with 2.4 i am talking :p |
| 16:35.25 | RaydenUni | say... so i could click on a list of raid icons instead of the actual units |
| 16:35.30 | RaydenUni | yeah i'm saying before 2.4 |
| 16:35.37 | RaydenUni | <RaydenUni> cause you couldn't do that before |
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| 16:35.43 | EvilJohn- | technically it can only list mobs that had some sort of action going against them |
| 16:35.44 | chiper | no, before 2.4 you couldnt |
| 16:35.46 | nevcairiel | i was answering the line before |
| 16:35.47 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 16:35.54 | RaydenUni | oh ok |
| 16:35.58 | RaydenUni | cool |
| 16:36.10 | EvilJohn- | but the problem is two mobs with the same name |
| 16:36.12 | RaydenUni | i foresee all sorts of cool mobs for helping people target mobs in order |
| 16:36.18 | EvilJohn- | and that's the big change |
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| 16:36.27 | chiper | rayden: you cant target based on guid |
| 16:36.34 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 16:36.44 | chiper | you can get a list, but you can't target based on that list |
| 16:36.50 | RaydenUni | why not? |
| 16:37.03 | kergoth | wonder who'll make the first decent 2.4 dot/ability timer mod |
| 16:37.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:37.06 | chiper | because there's no way to target based on the mob id |
| 16:37.11 | chiper | only by name |
| 16:37.12 | nevcairiel | because targeting still requires unit names, and if two mobs share the same name |
| 16:37.18 | RaydenUni | oh that's lame |
| 16:37.30 | chiper | yeah, I know, I wish they'd change that. |
| 16:37.31 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: acid 3 will be css and js when it's finished afaik |
| 16:37.36 | RaydenUni | i should convince my guild to start using main tank |
| 16:37.40 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: yeah probably |
| 16:37.46 | RaydenUni | makes it easy to pick up the next dps target |
| 16:37.54 | chiper | then I could finally write my mark targeting mod |
| 16:37.55 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: its still hilarious that IE7 crashes on it =P |
| 16:38.01 | kergoth | start using main tank? |
| 16:38.12 | RaydenUni | kergoth you can mark a player as main tank in the raid |
| 16:38.18 | kergoth | oh, right |
| 16:38.18 | EvilJohn- | well, MA |
| 16:38.20 | chiper | kergoth: I think he means /mt |
| 16:38.21 | EvilJohn- | not MT |
| 16:38.21 | RaydenUni | and then i have pitbull display him and his target |
| 16:38.45 | chiper | yeah, I'd like it if my guild would start doing that |
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| 16:38.59 | RaydenUni | i'll just bug someone the next time we run |
| 16:39.04 | RaydenUni | it's not like it hurts anyone to have it set |
| 16:39.27 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: yup :P |
| 16:39.42 | RaydenUni | link to acid3? |
| 16:39.50 | kergoth | libdogtag-3.0 being actively worked on eh, good, looking forward to that |
| 16:40.02 | RaydenUni | you guys see that IE8 will only act as IE7 if specifically requested by a site? |
| 16:40.04 | RaydenUni | woot |
| 16:40.38 | doc^blup | they are afraid of firefox ;) |
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| 16:43.30 | RaydenUni | http://dwarfpriest.com/2008/02/21/priest-dps/ |
| 16:43.32 | RaydenUni | nice post |
| 16:45.23 | chiper | wow, omen2 looks awesome |
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| 16:45.39 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 16:45.47 | RaydenUni | great for healers and tanks and aoe |
| 16:46.10 | Grum | chiper: screenshot! |
| 16:46.10 | chiper | definately gotta teach tanks how to use that, will make it immediately clear which targets they need to switch to |
| 16:46.21 | chiper | grum: scroll up |
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| 16:46.40 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/03/04/omen-in-patch-2-4-even-bigger-even-better/ |
| 16:47.19 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 16:47.24 | Pkekyo|edu | what the flying fuck are the odds of two phones dying the same day damnit? |
| 16:47.30 | RaydenUni | "Think of your threat generation as a very large truck with bad brakes." |
| 16:47.48 | Pkekyo|edu | x) |
| 16:48.44 | RaydenUni | this is really an excellent shadow priest article |
| 16:49.02 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 16:49.04 | RaydenUni | spell queue? |
| 16:50.06 | chiper | rayden: the comments on that omen article are pretty funny. some troll posted about how he refused to use mods, and people are making him look like the fool he is |
| 16:50.16 | Grum | humz |
| 16:50.18 | RaydenUni | nice |
| 16:50.29 | RaydenUni | there is a guy in my old guild who can't "figure out how to install mods" |
| 16:50.33 | Grum | i dont get how the Omen-2.4 'healer mode' is useful tbh O.o |
| 16:50.37 | RaydenUni | my guild leader pointed out that he managed to dps fine without mods |
| 16:50.45 | RaydenUni | maybe i should play without mods to "learn skillz" |
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| 16:50.52 | RaydenUni | Grum healing is aoe threat |
| 16:50.56 | Grum | RaydenUni: its not only you using mods to make stuff |
| 16:50.57 | RaydenUni | and omen 2.0 will show aoe threat |
| 16:51.13 | Grum | RaydenUni: but then you want the AOE mode screen |
| 16:51.14 | nevcairiel | Grum: you see the threat of all tanks in fights with multiple mobs, could be useful |
| 16:51.27 | Grum | so you know what your relative chance is on getting aggro |
| 16:51.30 | doc^blup | you can't know how fine you dps without addons |
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| 16:51.45 | chiper | the screenshot of the healing mode doesn't really explain anything, and the caption fails as well |
| 16:51.52 | RaydenUni | and Grum ? |
| 16:51.57 | RaydenUni | so you use the aoe threat when you heal |
| 16:52.12 | Grum | yeah i'm just curious what the healing view would provide |
| 16:52.21 | Grum | next to that you might know who is about to pull aggro |
| 16:52.32 | Grum | but then again, you can just put a 'red border on aggro' on your grid and switch targets |
| 16:52.34 | nevcairiel | final goal of the healing mode: you configure the tanks (or let it rip those from blizzard MTs/oRA MTs) and it shows the threat of the mobs targeted by those MTs .. so i can show the Threat of both Flames on illidan fight |
| 16:52.34 | chiper | I suspect Antiarc is still working on that Healing Mode feature |
| 16:52.38 | nevcairiel | pretty useful imho |
| 16:52.51 | RaydenUni | on the other hand |
| 16:52.54 | RaydenUni | you are a healer |
| 16:52.54 | Grum | how is monitoring threat for healing useful? |
| 16:53.00 | RaydenUni | and you are about to get aggro |
| 16:53.03 | RaydenUni | what choice do you have? |
| 16:53.05 | RaydenUni | NOT heal the tank? |
| 16:53.07 | Grum | shit is going wrong ;D |
| 16:53.14 | Grum | fading! |
| 16:53.17 | Grum | shadowmelding! |
| 16:53.23 | RaydenUni | shadowmeld? |
| 16:53.25 | chiper | pocketwatch |
| 16:53.32 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 16:53.47 | RaydenUni | there is this big diagram for what spells to cast as a shadow priest |
| 16:53.56 | RaydenUni | is VT up? yes/no is SWP up? yes/no etc |
| 16:53.58 | RaydenUni | for holy dps |
| 16:54.13 | RaydenUni | "Do you have enough mana to cast Smite? Yes -> cast Smite; No, get some mana" |
| 16:54.17 | RaydenUni | lawl |
| 16:54.19 | EvilJohn- | heh |
| 16:54.22 | EvilJohn- | yeah that's about it |
| 16:54.35 | RaydenUni | "Your casting sequence: Smite-> Smite-> Smite-> ..." |
| 16:54.40 | nevcairiel | Grum: maybe he should rename healer mode to "Raid Leader" mode =P |
| 16:54.59 | Grum | yeah think so |
| 16:55.06 | nevcairiel | i like it tho |
| 16:55.08 | nevcairiel | beign a lead |
| 16:55.09 | RaydenUni | how much dps can you do as holy? |
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| 16:55.14 | Grum | it might take a bit screenspace |
| 16:55.20 | Grum | RaydenUni: ~700-800 orso |
| 16:55.29 | Grum | but i only have 800 spelldmg in healing gear |
| 16:55.34 | Grum | and no talents to increase dmg |
| 16:55.41 | Grum | the downside of it is that you go OOM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fast |
| 16:55.46 | RaydenUni | 800 dps with 800 spell dmg? |
| 16:55.57 | RaydenUni | i have 1100 shadow dmg and i do around 850dps max |
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| 16:56.15 | Grum | i can just do it for 45 seconds orso :D |
| 16:56.18 | Grum | before i go oooom :P |
| 16:56.22 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 16:56.26 | RaydenUni | yeah i last 2.5 min or so |
| 16:56.36 | RaydenUni | but that's pretty decent dps |
| 16:56.52 | Grum | i wonder, if I go shadow with holy dmg |
| 16:56.54 | chiper | yeah, I've 1200 spell dmg on my mage and can only peak around 700dps. could be higher, but I'm arcane |
| 16:57.09 | RaydenUni | that's odd |
| 16:57.13 | Grum | chiper: errr? |
| 16:57.18 | EvilJohn- | I'm about 1400 shadow buffed up, pushing around 1050 or so |
| 16:57.19 | RaydenUni | i get out dps'd by mages and warlocks with less dmg |
| 16:57.28 | EvilJohn- | yeah |
| 16:57.31 | EvilJohn- | that happens |
| 16:57.31 | RaydenUni | which makes sense |
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| 16:57.35 | RaydenUni | they need stats other than dmg |
| 16:57.37 | RaydenUni | and they are pure dps |
| 16:57.38 | chiper | well, ok, peaking at 1200 when everything procs |
| 16:57.44 | RaydenUni | i stack only dmg, no sta or crit or int |
| 16:57.49 | EvilJohn- | I'm hapy with my dps output given how much mana I push back |
| 16:57.54 | chiper | I run around 1000 standard |
| 16:58.18 | Grum | humz on fights like rage our minimum dps you should have is 1500dps |
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| 16:58.25 | RaydenUni | awww |
| 16:58.40 | RaydenUni | when the power went out last night i lost my project bug list cause i hadnt' saved it |
| 16:58.41 | Grum | and t5 locks can easily do that |
| 16:58.42 | RaydenUni | lame |
| 16:58.46 | Grum | so that is ~1200 spelldmg orso |
| 16:58.56 | EvilJohn- | SoC |
| 16:59.01 | Grum | no |
| 16:59.02 | Grum | not on trash |
| 16:59.04 | Grum | on rage itself |
| 16:59.05 | EvilJohn- | single target? |
| 16:59.08 | EvilJohn- | that's nice |
| 16:59.10 | Grum | yes |
| 16:59.21 | RaydenUni | i love doing harder raids with spriest |
| 16:59.23 | Grum | its a standstill pewpew rape fight |
| 16:59.24 | RaydenUni | i can actually dps on trash |
| 16:59.34 | Grum | RaydenUni: class? |
| 16:59.39 | EvilJohn- | I wish I did more dps as SP, but that's okay |
| 16:59.43 | RaydenUni | none of this: VT, SWP, VE, MB... oh they are dead now |
| 16:59.44 | EvilJohn- | wtb Shadow Nova |
| 16:59.45 | RaydenUni | shadow priest |
| 16:59.52 | RaydenUni | yeah i want something aoe |
| 16:59.55 | RaydenUni | doesn't ahve to be big |
| 16:59.56 | Grum | hehe |
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| 17:00.06 | RaydenUni | also something to manage threat |
| 17:00.06 | Grum | a seed? |
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| 17:00.13 | EvilJohn- | either that or give me a 31 yard find flay |
| 17:00.16 | RaydenUni | what i want is an aoe threat reducer |
| 17:00.17 | Grum | holy seed! |
| 17:00.21 | RaydenUni | :P |
| 17:00.41 | Grum | yeah shadowpriests are kinda gimped threatwise |
| 17:00.44 | RaydenUni | does dmg to all mobs in the area and you generate no threat (or half or whatever) while this is up. 5-10 second duration |
| 17:00.52 | EvilJohn- | my MT rocks for TPS |
| 17:00.54 | Grum | use holy nova |
| 17:00.57 | EvilJohn- | I can realy go hard |
| 17:01.02 | RaydenUni | i started attumen last night with paladin wisdom buff. omg had to ask the pally mid battle to switch to salvation |
| 17:01.03 | Grum | EvilElvis: how much tps? |
| 17:01.06 | RaydenUni | i had time to wand |
| 17:01.24 | RaydenUni | Grum we don't ahve holy nova |
| 17:01.26 | RaydenUni | it's a talent |
| 17:01.31 | Grum | i know ;P |
| 17:01.35 | Grum | but is dmg without aggro! |
| 17:01.36 | EvilJohn- | dam you evilelvis |
| 17:02.10 | EvilJohn- | you know I haven't checked in awhile |
| 17:02.21 | RaydenUni | yeah without a paladin i can't dps hard |
| 17:02.21 | Grum | our warriors do about 1100-1200tps |
| 17:02.25 | EvilJohn- | the last time I studided it was over 1000 |
| 17:02.30 | kagaro | I usually just flay on attunmen |
| 17:02.43 | RaydenUni | kagaro i couldn't do more than SWP and VT |
| 17:02.44 | Grum | oh homewards time! |
| 17:02.44 | EvilJohn- | the feral is only doing 750 |
| 17:02.50 | Grum | mmmmmm bah |
| 17:02.51 | EvilJohn- | I can break him |
| 17:02.53 | EvilJohn- | easy |
| 17:03.02 | kagaro | I burst to 1600 or so +dam with a shaman |
| 17:03.04 | RaydenUni | according to this spreadsheet i can do 1283 TPS |
| 17:03.05 | EvilJohn- | in a longer fight I can break the paladin, too |
| 17:03.19 | EvilJohn- | that's not counting heal agro, just dps |
| 17:03.25 | chiper | see, that's why I stick to Arcane. I almost never need Salvation |
| 17:03.28 | RaydenUni | what is HTPS? you can show raid HTPS in omen |
| 17:03.45 | EvilJohn- | the thing I don't like about being a SP though not being able to use SW:D on a lot of boss fights |
| 17:03.52 | chiper | pallys keep giving me it, and I have to ask them to switch to Kings of Wis, cause it's a waste |
| 17:03.58 | EvilJohn- | since raid damage in tbc kinda be unpredictable |
| 17:03.59 | chiper | s/of/or |
| 17:04.01 | RaydenUni | eviljohn because of mana? |
| 17:04.04 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 17:04.06 | sica | RaydenUni: healing threat per second iirc |
| 17:04.09 | EvilJohn- | yeah |
| 17:04.22 | RaydenUni | depends on the fight |
| 17:04.30 | EvilJohn- | like I'll be spanking a long just fine, and I'll tap SW:D, cause I wanna a boost, then I get death and decay, or a infernal lands on me |
| 17:04.32 | EvilJohn- | then I cry |
| 17:04.36 | RaydenUni | in gruul and ZA so far i just run out of mana so i don't use MB or SWD |
| 17:04.49 | EvilJohn- | i watch the healing assignments and that dictates what I do |
| 17:05.02 | Stanzilla | I once tanked Attumen |
| 17:05.05 | Stanzilla | THAT was funny |
| 17:05.07 | EvilJohn- | if I get an A Grade shaman or A Grade paladin I'm a LOT more liberal with it |
| 17:05.14 | RaydenUni | if threat isn't too much of an issue then with VE swd isn't too bad |
| 17:05.15 | Stanzilla | as a spriest.. |
| 17:05.28 | RaydenUni | i once died to attumen while dps'ing midnight |
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| 17:05.32 | RaydenUni | off tank got stunned |
| 17:05.35 | Stanzilla | lol |
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| 17:05.38 | RaydenUni | that sucked |
| 17:05.41 | sica | I usually SW:D on most boss fights, well apart from RoS P1 and such things |
| 17:05.41 | EvilJohn- | ... |
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| 17:06.01 | RaydenUni | at least i can say i'm badass enough to pull aggro on something i'm not even hitting |
| 17:06.04 | EvilJohn- | Mendwatch helps, but I don't get it very much |
| 17:06.20 | EvilJohn- | we've been downshifting our priest numbers a bit |
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| 17:08.39 | RaydenUni | hello again |
| 17:09.01 | EvilJohn- | and we're back |
| 17:10.14 | sica | somehow I hate being a SP in MH/BT, our mages are doing 1800+ DPS and I have trouble to reach 1300-1400 :/ |
| 17:10.32 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 17:10.33 | EvilJohn- | yeah, that's to be expected |
| 17:10.37 | RaydenUni | but do your mages return mana? |
| 17:10.42 | EvilJohn- | but they couldn't do that if you weren't there |
| 17:10.45 | sica | no, but who needs mana |
| 17:10.59 | RaydenUni | there is a reason you always have 1-2 spriests in every raid |
| 17:10.59 | EvilJohn- | mages |
| 17:11.01 | sica | they all just need my misery debuff, nothing else |
| 17:11.04 | doc^bla | mages to do 1800 |
| 17:11.19 | RaydenUni | no one drinks pots in BT? |
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| 17:11.31 | sica | we raid with one shadow, me, in the healer group |
| 17:11.56 | EvilJohn- | I'm the only SP in guild right now, too |
| 17:12.00 | sica | our mages have a resto shaman with mana tide though |
| 17:12.05 | RaydenUni | we've done ZA with 2 :D |
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| 17:12.10 | RaydenUni | 2 in a 10 man is a bit much |
| 17:12.25 | RaydenUni | although i never realized *how much* mana we return |
| 17:12.51 | RaydenUni | i could tell if he was rotating MB/SWD or not and when he died |
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| 17:12.51 | RaydenUni | that was cool |
| 17:12.58 | sica | we were kara a few weeks ago with 2 shadows and 2 warlocks :) |
| 17:13.01 | RaydenUni | "ooh i'm getting so much mana... aw he's OOM now, suck" |
| 17:13.05 | sica | ISB always up if very nice |
| 17:13.12 | RaydenUni | ISB? |
| 17:13.27 | sica | improved shadow bolt |
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| 17:19.17 | RaydenUni | freenode is pretty crappy lately |
| 17:19.44 | nevcairiel | it was ddosed earlier |
| 17:19.47 | nevcairiel | maybe still going on |
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| 17:24.24 | Superfly_ | hi |
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| 17:25.44 | Elsia | hi |
| 17:25.56 | Yssaril | sup |
| 17:26.04 | Chaud | =( my window is full of netsplit spam |
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| 17:32.00 | Superfly_ | kinda offtopic, but does anyone use trinitybars2? |
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| 17:33.01 | Ozguli` | bleeh |
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| 17:33.06 | Ozguli` | my new guild wants me to use SW stats |
| 17:33.32 | Ozguli` | is it bad, can I use some ace addon to look as if I used the right one? |
| 17:33.52 | chiper | Superfly_: I use TB1, havent made the switch yet because I dont want to rebuild my whole UI |
| 17:34.10 | nevcairiel | Ozguli: its not that bad .. just use it if they require you to |
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| 17:35.43 | Superfly_ | my question is basically at least in the trinitybars2 you can create a bar, which is only shown when you are pvp flagged, but the keybinding drives me crazy, if i want to use my pve and pvp bars both, everytime i have to rebind the keys |
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| 17:40.13 | chiper | that sounds like a bug |
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| 17:41.03 | chiper | does TB2 let you have bars only visible when grouped? |
| 17:41.13 | chiper | I asked for that months ago, never checked to see if he did it |
| 17:41.40 | Superfly_ | not sure about that is a bug, just a question this is the way how it supposed to work? |
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| 17:42.20 | [Endeavour] | How can i mouse-attach a dewdrop menu? |
| 17:42.33 | Superfly_ | chiper: is this pvp-pve stuff working in tb1? |
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| 17:44.40 | chiper | I dunno, never had a need to use it |
| 17:45.04 | Xinhuan | http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2038/wowscrnshot030408001046wd8.jpg |
| 17:45.10 | Xinhuan | The Captain Planet UI! |
| 17:45.23 | Xinhuan | its brilliant |
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| 17:46.00 | chiper | lol |
| 17:46.12 | Snago | lol |
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| 17:47.09 | chiper | that actually is a pretty cool way to handle totems |
| 17:48.01 | ZealotOnAStick | people still use eCastingBar? |
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| 17:50.43 | Xinhuan | its the "Hearth" that is funny heheh |
| 17:50.55 | CIA-9 | 03next96 * r63689 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 17:50.55 | CIA-9 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:50.55 | CIA-9 | - Update locale koKR |
| 17:50.58 | Xinhuan | although technically it should be Astral Recall |
| 17:51.09 | chiper | heh, I think I noticed that, but it didnt really register |
| 17:51.24 | Xinhuan | it takes a while to register :D |
| 17:51.30 | Xinhuan | "Hearth", Brilliant! |
| 17:51.41 | chiper | I did think "he's missing heart" |
| 17:51.45 | kenlyric_ | yeah, I'm completely lost |
| 17:51.58 | kenlyric_ | oh |
| 17:52.04 | kenlyric_ | slow ken is slow |
| 17:52.07 | chiper | ken: never watched Captain Planet? |
| 17:52.42 | kenlyric_ | my brain wasn't translating hearth to heart |
| 17:54.53 | Xinhuan | then after you finally figure it out, it'll be stuck in your brain forever |
| 17:54.54 | Xinhuan | :D |
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| 17:58.40 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103821899&sid=1 |
| 17:59.19 | kergoth | ecastingbar, wow, i remember that |
| 18:01.39 | Elsia | so what's the deal with the arena server, is blizzard going to launch arena only servers for 2.4 or is this just for testing? |
| 18:03.32 | Civrock | It's for the 3v3 Tournament |
| 18:03.38 | Civrock | Only. |
| 18:03.58 | Civrock | Thus TTR. :P |
| 18:04.33 | Elsia | it's weird. the NPCs in there have mob collision turned on |
| 18:05.18 | chiper | oh, THATS what TTR is |
| 18:05.32 | [Endeavour] | How can i mouse-attach a frame? like GameTooltip:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_CURSOR") but for any frame? |
| 18:05.33 | chiper | didnt know wtf that post on mmo champion was about |
| 18:06.02 | Elsia | took me a while to notice the tab at the bottom of the server selection screen on the ptr client |
| 18:06.49 | chiper | how does that work, you copy characters on to it or something? |
| 18:07.10 | ckknight | [Endeavour]: GameTooltip:SetOwner(someFrame, "ANCHOR_BOTTOMLEFT") or something along those lines |
| 18:07.10 | Civrock | You simply create a new one and it's already levle 70. |
| 18:07.26 | chiper | ah |
| 18:07.34 | chiper | how does gear work? |
| 18:07.41 | Elsia | gear vendors without sales prices |
| 18:07.41 | Civrock | Vendors in each starting area. |
| 18:07.57 | Elsia | basically they guarantee a fair baseline |
| 18:08.18 | chiper | does it have a full world, or just a few areas? |
| 18:08.28 | Civrock | No instances. |
| 18:08.30 | [Endeavour] | Ckknight: Thanks, but what i actually thought about was anchoring a Dewdrop menu to the mouse anchor, not the tooltip |
| 18:08.42 | Civrock | Actually, no PvE content at all. |
| 18:08.43 | ckknight | oh |
| 18:08.49 | ckknight | [Endeavour]: I forget how I coded that in |
| 18:08.52 | ckknight | (author of Dewdrop btw) |
| 18:08.57 | [Endeavour] | <-- knows :) |
| 18:08.59 | chiper | interesting, so it's entirely about player skill |
| 18:09.08 | ckknight | it's like 'cursorX', true, 'cursorY', true |
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| 18:09.34 | chiper | so, what do the arena rewards go towards? |
| 18:09.53 | Civrock | There are no rewards. |
| 18:10.03 | Civrock | Other than rating. |
| 18:10.18 | chiper | ah, I see. so it's basically just deathmatch |
| 18:10.29 | Civrock | It's setup for a tournament. |
| 18:10.46 | chiper | could be a neat way to learn a new class |
| 18:10.58 | Civrock | Only in case of PvP. |
| 18:11.19 | Civrock | Best way to learn in starting from level 1, IMO. :P |
| 18:11.26 | chiper | yeah, but it's probably easier than trying to get a premade on the PTR |
| 18:11.41 | chiper | true |
| 18:11.47 | Civrock | Basically the same thing as Premades. |
| 18:11.48 | chiper | but that's tedius :P |
| 18:12.16 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: SO in case you missed it, I added raid/party-based limitations on use of CC-marks (i.e with just 1 mage it will only ever mark 1 mob for sheeping) |
| 18:12.35 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so I played with magicmarker a bit last night |
| 18:12.47 | NivFreak | the priority needs some more explanation |
| 18:12.49 | NeoTron | so did I >:-) |
| 18:12.51 | NivFreak | and it needs a test mode :) |
| 18:12.57 | NivFreak | yea, I saw your stream of commits |
| 18:13.10 | NivFreak | also, I think you need like 5 levels of priority |
| 18:13.10 | NeoTron | first time I've done mid-raid coding. heh |
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| 18:13.23 | NeoTron | well you have, essentally, 6 levels |
| 18:13.33 | NeoTron | tank1 > cc1 > tank2 > cc2 > tan3 > cc3 |
| 18:13.46 | NivFreak | hrm? |
| 18:13.52 | NeoTron | and how often do you have more than 3 cc priorities and 3 tank priorities in one pull? |
| 18:13.53 | NivFreak | can you explain that in more detail? |
| 18:14.25 | NeoTron | example numbers: High priority = 6 points, medium = 4 points, low = 2 points |
| 18:14.26 | NivFreak | so you're saying that both tank and CC have thier own priorities |
| 18:14.29 | NeoTron | Tank = 1 more point |
| 18:14.38 | NeoTron | so tank high = 7 points, cc medium = 4 points |
| 18:14.55 | NivFreak | and the highest priority is your first focus fire target? |
| 18:14.56 | chiper | neo: does it prioritize elite vs normal? |
| 18:15.09 | NivFreak | NeoTron: see, I was looking at the pulls in TK |
| 18:15.12 | NeoTron | chiper: not implicitdly but that's a good idea to add |
| 18:15.19 | NivFreak | there's 6 mobs per pull |
| 18:15.29 | chiper | I think the ultimate test would be how well it handles that 8 mob pull in Shattered Halls |
| 18:15.32 | NeoTron | yes but there aer 2 tank, 2 sheep, 2 fear for example |
| 18:15.34 | NivFreak | only one is immune to CC |
| 18:15.44 | NivFreak | and we tend to just CC 4 to keep things ezmod |
| 18:15.51 | NeoTron | they can all be the same priority level |
| 18:15.52 | NivFreak | but it would put up 3 tank targets before CC |
| 18:15.54 | chiper | ooo, this thing will be awesome in Blood Furnace |
| 18:15.56 | NivFreak | with the way I had it setup |
| 18:16.08 | NeoTron | well |
| 18:16.19 | NeoTron | the first decision is made by the category |
| 18:16.29 | NeoTron | it's kind of complex to explain :P |
| 18:16.30 | NivFreak | all of them but 1 was marked for CC |
| 18:16.48 | NeoTron | but that particular use case is supported easily with what it is now |
| 18:17.04 | NivFreak | so I'd set the CC immune mob to tank, high |
| 18:17.22 | NivFreak | and then there are 4 other types of mobs that I want killed in a specific order |
| 18:17.33 | NivFreak | so I set the ones I want CC'd until the end to CC, low? |
| 18:17.37 | NivFreak | then work my way up? |
| 18:17.42 | NeoTron | 1) Set the tank mobs as priority high, category tank. 2) set the high priority CC targets (I guess the casters?) as high prioruty, category CC and set CC list to be sheep P resume. 3) set the lower prior CC targets as medium prio, cat CC and cc methods as sheep/fear/wahtever |
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| 18:18.00 | NivFreak | but when you say high priority |
| 18:18.04 | NivFreak | are you thinking kill order? |
| 18:18.06 | NeoTron | the priority is simply the priority in which raid marks is used |
| 18:18.08 | NivFreak | or most important to keep CC'd :) |
| 18:18.15 | Dalhia | Euh, anyone having issues with grid range fading in the latest version? |
| 18:18.15 | NeoTron | higher priority mobs get earlier dibs on raid marks |
| 18:18.21 | NivFreak | k |
| 18:18.32 | NivFreak | so won't tank targets all get assigned first with that logic? |
| 18:18.39 | NeoTron | take an easier scenario = 5 mob pull, 2 tankable, 3 you can CC |
| 18:18.46 | NeoTron | but you only have two classes able to CC |
| 18:18.57 | NeoTron | so you want the two "worst" ccable mobs to be CC'd |
| 18:19.05 | NeoTron | typically thw two healers, or two casters or what not |
| 18:19.26 | NivFreak | sure |
| 18:19.28 | NeoTron | tank targets priority high will always get first dibs on raid marks |
| 18:19.40 | NivFreak | right, I think that's what is causing me problems |
| 18:19.49 | NivFreak | I'd rather exhaust our CC before tank marks get set |
| 18:19.54 | NeoTron | however you likely should have no conflict(immediate) between the marks used for the top 2-3 tank targets and any CC method |
| 18:20.11 | NeoTron | in that case you had 4 CC targets 2 tank targets |
| 18:20.15 | NeoTron | there are 8 icons |
| 18:20.30 | NeoTron | so there should be no conflect if you configure the raid icon use appropriately |
| 18:20.43 | NivFreak | well, in my testing last night it was putting up 3 tank targets |
| 18:20.51 | NeoTron | we ALWAYS use skull/star/circle for tank targets. Anything else is reserved primarily for CC |
| 18:20.57 | NivFreak | but perhaps I just need a test mode ;) |
| 18:21.04 | EvilJohn_ | the skull can be a bad habit to use |
| 18:21.09 | EvilJohn_ | since it gets used by boss mods a lot |
| 18:21.11 | NivFreak | We use skull/X/triangle but yea |
| 18:21.23 | NivFreak | EvilJohn_: I change the boss mod |
| 18:21.23 | NeoTron | EvilJohn_: I plan to add support to avoid using it in fights where bigwigs is enabled |
| 18:21.40 | NeoTron | or rather avoid using the mark the bossmob is configured to use |
| 18:21.41 | EvilJohn_ | i see |
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| 18:21.58 | NeoTron | NivFreak: it never should put up 3 tank targets if only 2 mobs aer configured as "tank" |
| 18:22.03 | EvilJohn_ | we just use the skull for emergency or quick reactions |
| 18:22.14 | NeoTron | unless the other mobs lack players/Cc methods or are in category tank |
| 18:22.16 | ulic | EvilJohn_: I just change my boss mods :) |
| 18:22.17 | NivFreak | NeoTron: feature request, test mode :) |
| 18:22.20 | EvilJohn_ | when we see the skull go up, everyone pays attention |
| 18:22.20 | NeoTron | it will always fall back to using tank targets |
| 18:22.26 | NivFreak | so I can say, I have 2 mages, 3 warlocks, 2 hunters, 1 rogue |
| 18:22.29 | NivFreak | mark this pack |
| 18:22.29 | frop | hellp! there's a way to "deny" incoming recount's and SW_Stats messagges? |
| 18:22.30 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 18:22.45 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I'd like to see the configuration :P |
| 18:22.53 | Pkekyo|edu | WTB MNEY |
| 18:23.04 | NeoTron | NivFreak: you mean be able to fake the "raid makeup"? |
| 18:23.07 | chiper | neo: you can define what marks get used for what, right? |
| 18:23.19 | NeoTron | chiper: http://www.leevalley.com/newsletters/Woodworking/2/3/article1.htm |
| 18:23.31 | NeoTron | mt |
| 18:23.33 | NeoTron | wtf |
| 18:23.35 | RaydenUni | druids are getting a dragon flight form? |
| 18:23.40 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/magic5.jpg ~/ |
| 18:23.41 | chiper | lol, serious MT |
| 18:23.43 | NeoTron | there |
| 18:23.58 | NivFreak | NeoTron: yea |
| 18:24.01 | chiper | ah, cool |
| 18:24.09 | NivFreak | NeoTron: part of it is learning what you're thinking |
| 18:24.20 | NivFreak | because the logic isn't clearly defined in docs :) |
| 18:24.21 | NeoTron | although the previous link is a cool bike made all out of wood :P |
| 18:24.26 | NivFreak | turning on debug msgs helped |
| 18:24.27 | NeoTron | NivFreak: yes |
| 18:24.32 | NeoTron | better docs would be good |
| 18:24.40 | NivFreak | yea, I'm just trying to be a good tester for you |
| 18:24.42 | NeoTron | adding a "fake raid makeup" thing would be easy |
| 18:24.46 | NivFreak | since I have lots of interest here ;) |
| 18:24.51 | NeoTron | I actually used it when I implemented the feature |
| 18:25.06 | NeoTron | it's good because, of course, to me it's perfectly logical |
| 18:25.07 | NeoTron | :) |
| 18:25.20 | NivFreak | it's very cool so far |
| 18:25.25 | NivFreak | it'll be nice when 2.4 comes out |
| 18:25.26 | NeoTron | I think I'll add 0.5 to the score if the mob is an elite |
| 18:25.29 | NeoTron | vs non-elite |
| 18:25.29 | NivFreak | and you don't have the dela |
| 18:25.30 | NivFreak | y |
| 18:25.32 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:25.43 | NeoTron | although I noticed last night I can significantly lower the delay |
| 18:25.44 | NivFreak | I just think non-elites should stay unmarked |
| 18:25.48 | NeoTron | going to make it a sliding timer |
| 18:25.52 | NeoTron | for me 0.3s worked fine |
| 18:25.57 | NivFreak | based on lag I'd guess? |
| 18:26.04 | NeoTron | it's likely needs to be a bit higher than latency yes |
| 18:26.20 | NeoTron | if you want non-elites unmarked, just ignore them |
| 18:26.29 | NeoTron | think in a 5-man group, you probably want to mark them all |
| 18:26.44 | NeoTron | without configuring, it'd automatically use lower priority |
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| 18:31.58 | chiper | question for shadow priests. do you ever get in situations where the group leader wants you constantly mind controlling? does that bug you? |
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| 18:32.03 | NeoTron | so I will probably add 1-2 more priority levels |
| 18:32.35 | Yssaril | NeoTron: can it learn from the types of CC's i try to cast on a mob? say i cast banish but it come back imune will it automatically flag that mob for not banishable? |
| 18:32.39 | NeoTron | and with that I need to add versioning to the saved vars and implement a conversion routine |
| 18:32.48 | chiper | I led a run once where I kept having the priest MC, just because we were short on CC. was worried she'd get sick of it, but she said it actually gave her higher DPS |
| 18:32.48 | NeoTron | Yssaril: planned 2.4 feature |
| 18:33.00 | NeoTron | it won't actually USE them to set stuff for mobs |
| 18:33.07 | Yssaril | NeoTron: woot also you consider fear a type of CC right? |
| 18:33.07 | NeoTron | but I will save i and display it as guidance |
| 18:33.10 | NeoTron | yes |
| 18:33.23 | Yssaril | woot |
| 18:33.37 | NeoTron | main reason for not using it is just because a CC can be used doesn't mean someone wants to use it |
| 18:33.44 | RaydenUni | question about send_file... do you put it right in your rhtml? it doesn't like my argument of a string... |
| 18:33.52 | RaydenUni | tells me undefined method |
| 18:35.29 | RaydenUni | <% send_file '/assets/0000/0001/crestock-50599-1600x1200.jpg' %> |
| 18:35.29 | RaydenUni | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.27 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: what you're doing wrong is to use weird inline coding! ;-) |
| 18:36.40 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 18:36.42 | RaydenUni | wrong channel |
| 18:36.44 | RaydenUni | gosh darnit |
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| 18:37.29 | RaydenUni | weird inline coding? |
| 18:37.36 | CIA-9 | 03stan * r63690 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/deDE.lua: |
| 18:37.36 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 18:37.36 | CIA-9 | - deDE Update |
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| 18:38.22 | CIA-9 | 03nevcairiel * r63691 10XRS/ (6 files in 2 dirs): XRS: update to LibBabbleClass-3.0 |
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| 18:39.19 | CIA-9 | 03neotron * r63692 10MagicMarker/ (Config.lua MagicMarker.lua): MagicMarker: Fixed execution error when MobNotes was missing. |
| 18:40.47 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: mainly I am not too fond of code that's inside html, which the above looks like :P |
| 18:40.50 | NeoTron | php, asp etc |
| 18:42.14 | RaydenUni | how else would you do it? |
| 18:42.38 | NeoTron | well really it's primarily having business logic mixed ni with HTML |
| 18:42.58 | NeoTron | if you have simple presentation logic etc it's not really an issue. |
| 18:43.19 | NeoTron | I just prefer a cleaner separation between presentation and implementation |
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| 18:46.38 | Gnarfoz | <NeoTron> Gnarfoz: SO in case you missed it, I added raid/party-based limitations on use of CC-marks (i.e with just 1 mage it will only ever mark 1 mob for sheeping) <-- right on! you rock. I would have noticed in a minute when I was going to update ;) |
| 18:47.15 | NeoTron | was actually really easy to do |
| 18:47.20 | NeoTron | although I do plan to improve it |
| 18:47.31 | NeoTron | like allow the user to select which specs are valid for CC |
| 18:47.36 | Gnarfoz | does irssi-proxy mark me as away when I'm not connected to irssi, anyway? I abuse it as a BNC, really, I fear I've missed *so* many messages over time because I never actually look at the irssi instance running on my dedicated server :D |
| 18:47.45 | chiper | hah, the new marketing intern has all the guys in the building drooling |
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| 18:47.50 | CIA-9 | 03stan * r63693 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/deDE.lua: |
| 18:47.50 | CIA-9 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 18:47.50 | CIA-9 | - deDE Update |
| 18:47.50 | NeoTron | but not important atm :P |
| 18:49.41 | chiper | asp, ick |
| 18:51.44 | Ozguli` | hmm |
| 18:51.44 | Ozguli` | I need a buff reminder mod |
| 18:54.14 | EvilJohn_ | i have one, it' called "a Rogue" |
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| 18:55.03 | Arrowmaster | does it go "salv pls" every 30 minutes? |
| 18:55.14 | chiper | Ozguli`: SmartBuff |
| 18:55.43 | Ozguli` | thanks |
| 18:56.18 | Pkekyo|edu | any brits here? |
| 18:56.41 | Pkekyo|edu | noes? bollocks |
| 18:57.49 | Gnarfoz | if you're a paladin, PallyPower > all :| |
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| 18:58.08 | chiper | does pallypower display reminders? |
| 18:58.29 | Gnarfoz | colors timers according to time left, but no spammy spammy "BUFF NOW" stuff, I guess |
| 18:58.29 | Chaud | Does PallyPower do my dishes? |
| 18:58.30 | Xinhuan | captain planet UI > pally power |
| 18:58.39 | chiper | xin: lol |
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| 18:59.13 | Xinhuan | oops |
| 18:59.22 | Xinhuan | tried to type something in /party chat |
| 18:59.26 | Xinhuan | and /p left the channel ~_~ |
| 18:59.37 | chiper | haha |
| 18:59.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:59.46 | nevcairiel | owned by irc |
| 18:59.54 | Pkekyo|edu | what is HSDPA and UMTS? (listed under 'Network' in a phone's specs) |
| 19:00.06 | Xinhuan | always happens on dual screens |
| 19:00.49 | chiper | High Speed Downlink Packet Access |
| 19:00.58 | nevcairiel | HSDPA is a standard used by UMTS |
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| 19:01.09 | Chaud | rofl @ CNN......President Bush today formally endorsed his 2000 foe John McCain for president, an event that has both Republicans and their Democratic opponents excited. |
| 19:01.33 | chiper | UMTS appears to be 3G related. Universal Mobile Telecomm System |
| 19:01.38 | nevcairiel | UMTS is Universal Mobile Telecommunications System, its the standard used by broadband phones |
| 19:01.52 | nevcairiel | UMTS is 3G essentially |
| 19:02.01 | nevcairiel | US people just call it 3G |
| 19:02.02 | chiper | both acronyms have Wikipedia pages which were the first hits on a google search |
| 19:02.03 | nevcairiel | EU calls it UMTS |
| 19:02.06 | chiper | L2Search |
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| 19:04.10 | elusif | is there anyway to detect falling? |
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| 19:04.19 | elusif | the author of outfitter doesn't know a way :( |
| 19:04.19 | nevcairiel | of what? |
| 19:04.23 | Chaud | I read that as failing =( |
| 19:04.29 | Dashkal | OT but applicable: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/05/1549236 -- *sigh* It's controversy like this (nevermind what linus actually did or didn't do) that's the reason I find myself pushed towards BSD style licensing |
| 19:04.30 | chiper | hehe, so did I |
| 19:04.31 | elusif | like when you jump off acliff or something |
| 19:04.33 | nevcairiel | oh me too Chaud |
| 19:04.42 | elusif | so you can make outfitter equip a cape to slow you |
| 19:04.43 | elusif | etc |
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| 19:04.49 | nevcairiel | i dont think you can detect falling, no |
| 19:04.53 | elusif | oh noes! |
| 19:04.54 | elusif | :( |
| 19:05.01 | elusif | ty |
| 19:05.03 | Chaud | Torvalds needs to stay off the forums |
| 19:05.33 | Fisker- | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=1A2E3DDD-B38B-439D-BBA7-F179A5D3ECAF&displaylang=en |
| 19:05.40 | Dashkal | APparently in true /. tradition he was taken out of context. It's the mess surrouning it that makes he sigh |
| 19:05.58 | chiper | there's still no way to tell Z location, is there? |
| 19:06.08 | Chaud | I wish =( |
| 19:06.19 | Chaud | Then they could make fun flying mount addons that are pointless but amusing! |
| 19:06.27 | chiper | if there were you could just watch for a sudden elevation drop |
| 19:06.37 | chiper | chaud: I take it you havent seen FlightHUD |
| 19:07.36 | Chaud | That addon is intresting, but isn't the pitch thing from mouse or camera or something |
| 19:07.54 | chiper | yeah |
| 19:08.08 | Stanzilla | IE 8 Beta is out |
| 19:08.09 | chiper | because there's no way to detect character pitch |
| 19:08.39 | Stanzilla | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=1A2E3DDD-B38B-439D-BBA7-F179A5D3ECAF&displaylang=en < for xp |
| 19:08.50 | Stanzilla | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C3C6E8C1-BD91-490B-86F5-F3652DD691DE&displaylang=en < for vista |
| 19:08.50 | chiper | stan: meh |
| 19:08.52 | Chaud | We’re sorry, but we were unable to service your request. You may wish to choose from the links below for information about Microsoft products and services. |
| 19:09.09 | Stanzilla | works for me |
| 19:09.21 | chiper | I didnt even let me PC upgrade to 7 |
| 19:09.22 | Chaud | Tried it again and it worked |
| 19:09.24 | Stanzilla | http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/e/8/7e88c69b-77d2-4fd7-b1eb-12c6d89ecc93/IE8-WindowsXP-x86-ENU.exe < better? |
| 19:09.26 | Stanzilla | kk |
| 19:09.33 | chiper | once when it tried to do that upgrade, it hosed the Explorer |
| 19:09.49 | Chaud | Lol, Clinton won Texas? |
| 19:09.56 | Chaud | what a pro |
| 19:10.09 | doc^bla | with a few percent |
| 19:10.24 | chiper | chaud: it's just the democratic primary |
| 19:10.28 | Chaud | Yeah, I know |
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| 19:11.06 | Chaud | Looking at the stats, I find it intresting that Obama wins near large cities mostly in last night's states |
| 19:11.06 | Fisker- | According to Microsoft IE8 is pretty much as fast as Firefox 3 Beta 3 |
| 19:11.18 | frop | anyone knows a way to "deny" incoming recount's and SW_Stats messagges? |
| 19:11.22 | Dashkal | Yummy. Apparently an inscription spell ended up on the PTR |
| 19:11.48 | Chaud | Also the disproportionate amount of democratic women voters compared to republican |
| 19:11.49 | Dashkal | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/demonicrunes.jpg |
| 19:11.52 | chiper | Dashkal: eh? how? |
| 19:12.00 | Chaud | Yeah, that isn't knockback so fails =( |
| 19:12.18 | Dashkal | no idea. I wish they posted the spellid so I could check it out myself |
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| 19:12.22 | ulic | Dashkal: too bad they don't have the mats, so we can start hording. |
| 19:12.26 | Dashkal | heh |
| 19:12.27 | chiper | oh man, knockback would rock |
| 19:12.32 | ulic | if the mats even exists in game yet. |
| 19:12.40 | Chaud | Hey, they said it was an example at Blizzcon |
| 19:12.41 | chiper | there's a general lack of knockback in the game |
| 19:12.41 | Chaud | I |
| 19:12.47 | Chaud | *I'm holding them to it |
| 19:12.48 | Dashkal | Eh, priests being able to do cliff throwing is bad enough |
| 19:13.23 | Dashkal | oh who am I kidding. I want a druid finisher move that does knockback based on points :p |
| 19:13.42 | Chaud | You wish! =p |
| 19:13.46 | chiper | I'd love to put knockback on Arcane Explosion |
| 19:13.51 | Chaud | then you would have to catch them again lol |
| 19:13.53 | chiper | make it a real explosion! |
| 19:13.57 | chiper | GNOME BOMB! |
| 19:13.59 | Chaud | Some private server has that lol |
| 19:14.04 | Dashkal | Make cyclone instead of CC toss the victim |
| 19:14.06 | Chaud | One Tuesday I got bored and went on one |
| 19:14.13 | Chaud | they fixed blink there too |
| 19:14.19 | chiper | fixed? |
| 19:14.27 | Chaud | it makes you go forward quickly in an arc slightly in the air |
| 19:14.36 | chiper | hah |
| 19:14.40 | Chaud | If you blink towards a crack now, you stop at the crack |
| 19:14.48 | Chaud | Sometimes even going backwards due to latency |
| 19:15.22 | chiper | yeah, i was really happy when they fixed that in IF. blinking out of the AH used to stop at the door, or the bridge |
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| 19:15.59 | Chaud | The WSG tunnels/doorways |
| 19:16.00 | Chaud | WTF |
| 19:16.21 | chiper | I noticed they disabled blink in the AV tunnels |
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| 19:16.57 | NeoTron | it's nice to know that inscription will be yet another required thing to do to as a raider |
| 19:17.05 | NeoTron | wonder what materials they will use |
| 19:17.05 | dodga | Hm how come RatingBuster adds Shadow Damage to the tooltip of my Insignia of the Alliance? :D |
| 19:17.10 | dodga | Or to the Riding Crop :D |
| 19:17.15 | Chaud | Magic. |
| 19:17.54 | dodga | Like... voodoo? |
| 19:18.02 | kenlyric_ | does it ahve stats that would add shadow damage? |
| 19:18.12 | dodga | kenlyric_: Last time I looked.. no :D |
| 19:18.15 | kenlyric_ | spirit maybe? |
| 19:18.17 | kenlyric_ | stamina? |
| 19:18.22 | kenlyric_ | I have no idea what these things do |
| 19:18.27 | dodga | It's the frikkin riding crop :D only adds 10% riding speed |
| 19:18.30 | kenlyric_ | well, I guess riding crop has no stats |
| 19:18.35 | Chaud | Yeah... |
| 19:18.46 | kenlyric_ | sounds like an urban legend |
| 19:18.47 | dodga | But I suppose it is because I have equipped the Icon of ... which adds 43 spell damage |
| 19:19.01 | dodga | And switching that with the crop would make me lose 43 damage |
| 19:19.07 | dodga | And that's why it shows |
| 19:19.29 | Chaud | I thought you meant it would add the damage lol |
| 19:19.40 | Chaud | It shows you gains/losses of stats for you class on everything doesn't it |
| 19:19.51 | dodga | Yeah just made me wonder :D |
| 19:20.02 | dodga | But now that I wrote it here it really makes sense :D |
| 19:20.09 | dodga | It just looked really strange ingame to me |
| 19:20.16 | kenlyric_ | oh, it shows negative? |
| 19:20.33 | kenlyric_ | man, 1/10 |
| 19:20.59 | dodga | Yeah it shows -43|0 (currently equipped Icon of Silver Crescent and that Crusade trinket from Darkmoon) when hovering over the Insginia or Riding Crop |
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| 19:23.24 | Chaud | IE8 actually needs a restart to function =( |
| 19:23.26 | Chaud | This fails |
| 19:23.33 | ulic | MS fails |
| 19:23.44 | Fisker- | oh u Chaud |
| 19:23.51 | NeoTron | Chaud: you installed a piece of software, of course you need to restart |
| 19:23.56 | Chaud | I haven't come across anything that actually needs the restart it asks for before =\ |
| 19:24.38 | kenlyric_ | you haven't tried |
| 19:24.44 | kenlyric_ | the installer, for instance |
| 19:25.07 | kenlyric_ | IE7 |
| 19:25.18 | Chaud | =\ I don't even remember installing it |
| 19:25.29 | doc^bla | you'll stop using ie8 beta after 5mins |
| 19:25.51 | kenlyric_ | what could compel somebody to install that? |
| 19:25.56 | chiper | IE integrates itself into the entire OS. of course you need to restart |
| 19:25.56 | kenlyric_ | professional necessity? |
| 19:26.10 | chiper | ken: not on the beta level |
| 19:26.24 | chiper | even if you're a web designer, you can wait for an FC |
| 19:26.28 | Chaud | I always install betas, besides o/s |
| 19:26.35 | Chaud | Besides, I don't use IE so... |
| 19:26.55 | chiper | if you dont use it, why subject your system to the potential instability? |
| 19:27.22 | kenlyric_ | speaking of beta, wtb google browser sync plugin that works with firefox3 |
| 19:27.26 | Chaud | Because stability is boring =( |
| 19:29.18 | Chaud | What kind of call is "193559988" from =\ |
| 19:29.30 | Chaud | I just activated this phone yesterday and random missed call |
| 19:29.54 | NeoTron | Chaud: main reason with IE is that even if you don't use it, you use it :P |
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| 19:30.26 | Chaud | Well, I guess, but I don't think it will create any major problems |
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| 19:31.39 | NeoTron | much like upgrading to Vista? What could possibly go wrong! |
| 19:32.10 | Chaud | I put Vista on the family computer that I don't use =) |
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| 19:33.21 | Chaud | Sadly I think I might be stuck with it when I get a laptop in a few months |
| 19:33.35 | Chaud | Isn't new O/S installs Vista only here soon? |
| 19:34.10 | Chaud | *Aren't, I give up at typing and working at the same time |
| 19:34.32 | Pkekyo|edu | hmm....should I put the chassis side panel back on my comp? looks fancy with the fants spinning etc :p |
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| 19:34.46 | Fisker- | heh |
| 19:34.47 | Chaud | Does the panel have a window? |
| 19:34.48 | Fisker- | monsterfail |
| 19:34.50 | Fisker- | http://i29.tinypic.com/1zb9q8h.jpg |
| 19:34.52 | Fisker- | :D |
| 19:34.53 | Pkekyo|edu | Chaud: nah |
| 19:34.57 | Chaud | =\ |
| 19:35.20 | Chaud | Fisker you fail, I'm too lazy to restart |
| 19:35.36 | Pkekyo|edu | would like one, but I bought one of the old-school Chieftec BIGTowers...the ones made out of half a ton of steel, you know? not many side panels with windows around for those |
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| 19:38.11 | Chaud | I have http://www.hardcoreware.net/image.php?src=4025&ts=1114998667 |
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| 19:38.28 | Pkekyo| | bwahahahaha, nicked my kid brother's PSU :p |
| 19:40.16 | Fisker- | http://tinyurl.com/27wsjv <-win |
| 19:40.34 | Pkekyo|edu | will my computer generate more heat in the room with or without she side panel on? |
| 19:40.40 | nevcairiel | hm clicking on a tinyurl link by fisker .. that can be dangerous |
| 19:40.51 | Pkekyo|edu | indeed lol |
| 19:40.52 | Fisker- | then add preview to it |
| 19:40.53 | Pkekyo|edu | don't! :p |
| 19:40.53 | Chaud | It is some fail benchmarks |
| 19:40.54 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|edu: the heat generated is the same |
| 19:41.01 | Fisker- | http://preview.tinyurl.com/27wsjv |
| 19:41.03 | Pkekyo|edu | nevcairiel: so no difference at all? |
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| 19:41.15 | Fisker- | Faster than Firefox 3 Beta 4 trunk |
| 19:41.22 | Pkekyo|edu | I noticed when my tower was offline (PSU died), that my room is cold as fuck :p |
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| 19:41.48 | Chaud | Rofl |
| 19:41.54 | kenlyric_ | faster than firefox? oh boy, what a claim! |
| 19:42.05 | NeoTron | ff3 is fast actually |
| 19:42.05 | Fisker- | In that particular benchmark yes |
| 19:42.06 | Pkekyo|edu | BLASPHEMY AND MADNESS! |
| 19:42.07 | Chaud | It is .6% faster on that benchmark! |
| 19:42.09 | kenlyric_ | it only needs half of itsself embeded in the OS to get hat |
| 19:42.16 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|edu: haha .. same heat yeah, the components just produce a certain dissipation, its just how its getting out of the tower |
| 19:42.19 | Chaud | How many trials did you run? |
| 19:42.21 | Fisker- | Oh yes because that is relevant |
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| 19:42.34 | nevcairiel | a concentrated hot air stream on the fans, or just out :p |
| 19:42.35 | Fisker- | Also you don't even have a clue about it's integration regardless so drop the subject |
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| 19:43.26 | nevcairiel | I can find a special benchmark to proove that any product is fast |
| 19:43.27 | nevcairiel | imho. |
| 19:43.32 | nevcairiel | *proof |
| 19:43.38 | Pkekyo|edu | nevcairiel: any idea what the difference is? I want the room heated back up asap :p |
| 19:43.51 | kenlyric_ | what, is it integrated using dimensional shifts? |
| 19:44.01 | Fisker- | nevcairiel that doesn't matter, i'm not linking an arbitrary benchmark anyways |
| 19:44.10 | Chaud | My tower doesn't have too many problems with heat, 4 case fans + power supply move a ton of air, even on medium =( |
| 19:44.31 | Fisker- | kenlyric_ it's integration, which there is none of, is irrelevant for it's performance in rendering and so forth |
| 19:44.37 | Fisker- | Claiming otherwise is just silly |
| 19:44.51 | nevcairiel | its not |
| 19:45.01 | nevcairiel | with proper deep OS integration you can get better performance |
| 19:45.11 | Pkekyo|edu | I have four chassis fans, a harddrive cooler (3 disk-rack), CPU and GPU coolers and a 140mm fan in the PSU |
| 19:45.13 | nevcairiel | thats a fact :P |
| 19:45.18 | kenlyric_ | I think my point was to dismiss raw rendering speed as a primary benchmark. |
| 19:45.23 | Fisker- | It's just a shame that IE isn't integrated |
| 19:45.29 | kenlyric_ | it would have to be a lot faster to convince me it's actually a better renderer than FF |
| 19:45.33 | Fisker- | it's just providing a set of API's to windows and developers |
| 19:45.36 | Pkekyo|edu | it heats up my room :) |
| 19:45.39 | Fisker- | and it still has nothing to do with rendering |
| 19:45.56 | Chaud | I could use the heat, but this house is somewhat open with 2nd story, so it is pretty cold |
| 19:45.56 | Fisker- | kenlyric_ i'm not saying it's a better renderer |
| 19:46.28 | Chaud | how long does that benchmark take wtf |
| 19:46.32 | Chaud | its still running |
| 19:46.41 | Fisker- | a long time if you have IE7 :P |
| 19:46.51 | Chaud | rofl, I must have messed it up |
| 19:46.55 | Chaud | 21114 ms |
| 19:47.20 | nevcairiel | thats purely a javascript benchmark no? |
| 19:47.39 | Pkekyo|edu | anyone know if blue leds are particularily brighter than red leds? |
| 19:48.03 | nevcairiel | yes they are |
| 19:48.06 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 19:48.11 | Pkekyo|edu | figures...bollocks |
| 19:48.16 | Pkekyo|edu | why? stupid leds |
| 19:48.24 | nevcairiel | its the nature of blue light =P |
| 19:48.24 | Chaud | blue shorter wavelength? |
| 19:48.31 | xyu | it is |
| 19:48.34 | kenlyric_ | blame science |
| 19:48.39 | Chaud | Classes actually taught me something =\ |
| 19:48.40 | Chaud | madness |
| 19:48.44 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 19:49.15 | Pkekyo|edu | just noticed...turned the light off to look at the fancypants LED fans :p |
| 19:49.33 | Pkekyo|edu | don't like led fans tbh...and now even more, the blue ones are overkill compared to my red ones! :p |
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| 19:49.52 | Chaud | I have 4 blue ones =D |
| 19:49.57 | kenlyric_ | imagine a blue light district. Far too bright. |
| 19:49.58 | Chaud | and blue one in power supply |
| 19:50.11 | Chaud | used to have 1 more blue case fan, and 2 blue UV lights |
| 19:50.17 | kenlyric_ | I don't really feature having my entire room glow while my monitor is off. |
| 19:50.45 | Pkekyo|edu | same, kenlyric_, but the only low-noise fans I could find had red or blue leds |
| 19:50.47 | Chaud | this guy on neowin had a fun blue LED setup in his room lol |
| 19:51.01 | Pkekyo|edu | lmao |
| 19:51.04 | Chaud | http://foto.mail.ru/mail/dziner/pc/s-231.jpg that is the kind of light you need |
| 19:51.19 | kenlyric_ | that's why I've decided no windows in my next case, since most fans have these lights. |
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| 19:52.13 | Pkekyo|edu | I fucking hate it tbh...makes it unnecessarily hard to go to sleep, as my tower is on 24/7 |
| 19:52.14 | kenlyric_ | trying to get a simple case out of ibuypower is like pulling teeth. |
| 19:52.24 | kenlyric_ | clearly I need the weather displayed on my case |
| 19:52.33 | Chaud | that would be awesome. |
| 19:53.08 | kenlyric_ | my roommate has awful case lights like that AND a bad ball bearing on a fan. |
| 19:53.12 | kenlyric_ | I dunno how he sleeps |
| 19:53.15 | Chaud | take it out =\ |
| 19:53.23 | Chaud | That is why I am down one fan |
| 19:53.37 | Chaud | although that one might have been sleeved or whatever |
| 19:54.47 | Chaud | Yeah, I got these at $1.50 each for my case fans http://www.pctoys.com/840556014041.html |
| 19:55.08 | Bruners | ckknight: have you removed alpha adjustments from pitbul now? |
| 19:55.22 | ckknight | no, I added it to all bars |
| 19:55.34 | ckknight | Full opacity, empty opacity |
| 19:55.48 | Bruners | aha |
| 19:57.54 | Pkekyo|edu | alpha settings > all |
| 20:00.34 | Dashkal | lol, missed it re inscriptions: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=35043 (they do have the spellid) |
| 20:00.49 | Chaud | Yeah, people were linking it all over =\ |
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| 20:08.11 | elusif | ckknight: do you know anyway for amod to detect when you're falling? |
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| 20:09.05 | Chaud | @blue LED thing earlier, found those pics |
| 20:09.05 | Chaud | http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=610525&st=465&p=589200045&#entry589200045 |
| 20:10.53 | Yssaril | elusif: IsFalling() will return 1 or true if you are falling (falling meaning that your feet are of the ground as in when you jump or anything like that) |
| 20:10.59 | CIA-9 | 03piranther * r63694 10PiraPlex/deps.lua: PiraPlex :- recognize LibBabble-Class-3.0 as a 'dep' |
| 20:11.11 | Pkekyo|edu | rofl |
| 20:11.19 | Yssaril | elusif: not sure if there is an event for it though |
| 20:11.26 | Pkekyo|edu | what kind of arsehole got money to casemod his entire room?! |
| 20:11.27 | Chaud | I don't see outfitter putting your slow fall back on constantly as useful =p |
| 20:11.42 | Chaud | read that thread lol |
| 20:11.45 | Chaud | tons of fun setups |
| 20:12.28 | Pkekyo|edu | Chaud: I see how it can be useful...jumped tanaris --> un'goro once...forgot to refresh...not fun |
| 20:13.00 | Chaud | every jump though? |
| 20:13.23 | Pkekyo|edu | ok, not every jump |
| 20:13.56 | Fisker- | <-LØRNING COMPUTAR |
| 20:13.57 | Chaud | Could you do a timer, if falling for so long equip it ? |
| 20:14.18 | Pkekyo|edu | rofl Fisker- |
| 20:14.24 | Pkekyo|edu | would be better imo |
| 20:15.09 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 20:17.26 | Yssaril | actually was gonna work on a mod to the mount module for clostet gnome to not requip till you stop falling :) (i ride with rockethelm and parachute cloake :)) |
| 20:18.23 | Chaud | rofl @ this guys setup http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=610525&st=240&p=589149871&#entry589149871 |
| 20:18.23 | Yssaril | but that has been sidetracked since i found out that its not that hard to make my own custom unitframes :P |
| 20:18.56 | CIA-9 | 03pachelbel * r63695 10GridStatusLineOfSight/ (4 files): |
| 20:18.56 | CIA-9 | GridStatusLineOfSight: initial commit |
| 20:18.56 | CIA-9 | This module catches the "Line of Sight" error event and adds a timed duration alert to Grid for it (*after* the error occurs), which can be tied to an indicator. |
| 20:27.18 | ckknight | elusif: yea, for 2.3, you parse an environmental chat message, in 2.4, you parse COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
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| 20:27.29 | ckknight | well, it detects if you get hurt from falling |
| 20:28.02 | selckin | perfect dmg meters possible in 2.4 or did they mess it up? |
| 20:28.18 | Chaud | "perfect" |
| 20:28.32 | selckin | without guestimation for like lifebloom & stuff |
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| 20:30.42 | Xinhuan | lifebloom will still require guesstimation :) |
| 20:30.55 | selckin | sigh, hopeless |
| 20:31.01 | Xinhuan | as it is the tank that is really healing himself (and any threat generated goes to the tank) |
| 20:31.30 | Xinhuan | if the combat log says "tank heals himself for 1234 hp" and doesn't say anything else, short of doing some smart guessing, there's not much you can do |
| 20:31.51 | dodga | wtf is ChatFrame3ResizeTopRight!? :D |
| 20:31.54 | selckin | i was hoping they'd add the source |
| 20:32.01 | Xinhuan | the source is the tank himself |
| 20:32.16 | Xinhuan | source healed destinatin for 1234 <-- both source and destination here is the tank |
| 20:32.24 | Xinhuan | so threat is added to the threat |
| 20:32.28 | Xinhuan | to the tank* |
| 20:32.49 | selckin | they can sell say from x's lifebloom or so |
| 20:33.05 | Xinhuan | well the scheme is that there is only 1 source and 1 destination |
| 20:33.16 | Xinhuan | and the source and destination for lifebloom is the same person |
| 20:33.45 | selckin | well they should have fixed it </end of me being silly> |
| 20:33.54 | Xinhuan | you could argue all you want, but until blizzard decides to change it... :) |
| 20:34.16 | selckin | they should have with the otehr changes in 2.4 |
| 20:34.50 | Xinhuan | just so you know, lifebloom changes in combat log were declined specifically |
| 20:35.07 | Xinhuan | blues posted "but they really are healing themselves" and that's the end of the discussion |
| 20:35.41 | selckin | pff making lore dictate technical issues |
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| 20:36.23 | kenlyric_ | using lore to cover technical issues, you mean :) |
| 20:36.29 | Chaud | lollore. |
| 20:36.34 | kenlyric_ | the'd do it if they could, trust me |
| 20:36.39 | kenlyric_ | lore be damned |
| 20:37.55 | Chaud | Wow I am bad |
| 20:38.10 | Chaud | I drew this nice graph for my lab report, and put the wrong variable on the wrong axis |
| 20:38.27 | selckin | change the axises :) |
| 20:38.47 | NeoTron | I think the choice is lifebloom/PoM etc remaining like it is today or they have to remove the threat benefit from it |
| 20:38.50 | NeoTron | which would suck |
| 20:39.14 | Chaud | Just going to draw it again |
| 20:44.50 | Stanzilla | Elsia: ping |
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| 20:45.39 | Elsia | pong |
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| 20:46.34 | Elsia | they have promised that spell_cast_success will show for lifebloom/earthshield in a future patch |
| 20:46.38 | Elsia | not for 2.4 though |
| 20:46.48 | Elsia | then we can do at least heuristics on these things |
| 20:47.11 | nevcairiel | maybe they still manage for 2.4 |
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| 20:47.34 | Elsia | lets hope |
| 20:47.50 | Elsia | I still wait for the next PTR build so I can add the SPELL_SUMMON code |
| 20:47.56 | NeoTron | Blizzard needs to make a fighting game mixing their three properties |
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| 20:48.13 | NeoTron | elves, zergs, protoss, diablo etc all fighting heh |
| 20:48.32 | Stanzilla | Elsia: recount sync complains about missing translations in babblespell all the time |
| 20:48.37 | Stanzilla | _slightly_ annoying |
| 20:48.44 | Elsia | stan: live or ptr? |
| 20:48.45 | Stanzilla | every trash spell errors |
| 20:48.46 | Stanzilla | live |
| 20:48.49 | Elsia | hmm |
| 20:48.53 | NeoTron | in 2.4 can you specifically listen to some combat events? |
| 20:49.08 | NeoTron | or listen to all and ignore what you don't need (I haven't looked at this at all) |
| 20:49.21 | Elsia | stan: can you quote me a specific spell that it claims to be missing? |
| 20:49.41 | Elsia | oh... I think I know.. you have people with french/spanish clients in your raid group? |
| 20:50.05 | Elsia | er nevermind, it's babble-spell |
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| 20:50.19 | nevcairiel | why do you need to translate every spell? |
| 20:50.29 | selckin | recount back in dev? |
| 20:50.29 | nevcairiel | just out of curiosity :) |
| 20:51.10 | Elsia | I didn't actually write that code ;) |
| 20:52.04 | kergoth | hmm, worth it to pick up a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32508 as a leveling hunter? |
| 20:52.23 | Elsia | sel: sort of and cryect is working on recount2 |
| 20:52.42 | CIA-9 | 03pachelbel * r63696 10GridStatusLineOfSight/GridStatusLineOfSight.toc: GridStatusLineOfSight: updated TOC |
| 20:52.47 | selckin | kergoth: cheap enough |
| 20:52.54 | Elsia | it's syncing spell names so it needs babble spell |
| 20:53.30 | Elsia | hmm are trash spells not in babble-spell? |
| 20:55.08 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 20:55.11 | NivFreak | LoS for grid eh |
| 20:55.17 | NivFreak | that's interesting |
| 20:55.19 | Gnarfoz | only spells I get errors about is players spells like Health Link and stuff |
| 20:55.26 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: ping |
| 20:55.40 | nevcairiel | doesnt Babble-Spell have a Non-Strict mode that doesnt error? |
| 20:55.49 | NeoTron | how do you know if something is in LoS? |
| 20:55.55 | Elsia | does it? |
| 20:56.20 | Chaud | doesnt the UI have a big red error |
| 20:56.24 | Chaud | target not in line of sight |
| 20:56.48 | Elsia | can't see anything about non-strict mode in LBS3 |
| 20:57.04 | NeoTron | Chaud: after you cast |
| 20:57.13 | NeoTron | if it just records stuff after a failed cast, sure |
| 20:57.29 | Chaud | CIA-9: This module catches the "Line of Sight" error event and adds a timed duration alert to Grid for it (*after* the error occurs), which can be tied to an indicator. |
| 20:58.14 | nevcairiel | Elsia: :GetUnstrictLookupTable() .. will simply return nil for unknown spells instead of error |
| 20:58.14 | Elsia | hmm looks like babble-spell-2.2 contains just a heck of a lot more spells than LBS-3.0 |
| 20:58.24 | Diao | hmm |
| 20:58.26 | Diao | weird |
| 20:58.40 | Diao | isn't it not allowed to name your pet the same as your character |
| 20:58.44 | nevcairiel | its weird that it returns nil instead of the key tho |
| 20:58.48 | Hrack | sounds like you should update 3.0 then |
| 20:59.25 | dafire | i think babble-spell will get a bit deprecated with 2.4 |
| 20:59.27 | Elsia | alright, I'll see if GetUnstrict works for now. BabbleSpell dies come 2.4 anyway |
| 20:59.36 | nevcairiel | true |
| 20:59.39 | Hrack | why's that? |
| 20:59.41 | Arrowmaster | we hope |
| 20:59.44 | Elsia | spell id |
| 20:59.46 | Hrack | ah |
| 21:00.02 | Arrowmaster | i still dont know of a way to get spellid from buffs/debuffs without watching the combatlog |
| 21:00.07 | Elsia | it definitely does for recount, I already have a completely babble-less version except for class which I need for config |
| 21:00.10 | Hrack | any other babble stuff gonna be defunct in 2.4? |
| 21:00.34 | Elsia | babble-boss for combat log-based addons will also be obsolete |
| 21:00.48 | Arrowmaster | still gona need babble-boss for config guis |
| 21:01.08 | Elsia | yeah except if you don't need to config for them, but bigwigs certainly will need to |
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| 21:01.13 | nevcairiel | just do automated translations |
| 21:01.14 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 21:01.17 | NeoTron | easy solution: Official military sources of email acan only email .mil and .gov addresses |
| 21:01.23 | nevcairiel | save localized string once yous ee the mob :P |
| 21:01.28 | NeoTron | mt |
| 21:01.48 | Elsia | doesn't work for configs |
| 21:02.06 | Elsia | unless it's acceptable to get english in a client |
| 21:03.12 | Bruners | !rating 1615 |
| 21:03.12 | Xinhuan | 1615 rating gives 485(5s), 427(3s) and 368(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 21:06.05 | Elsia | stan: I'm gonna commit loose BS translates in sync, can you let me know if that removes the error spam? |
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| 21:07.08 | Stanzilla | Elsia: yup |
| 21:07.36 | CIA-9 | 03arrowmaster * r63697 10/branches/FuBar_SpeedFu/: FuBar_SpeedFu: delete branch |
| 21:07.37 | NeoTron | What is the future of Recount and Recount2 anyway? :P |
| 21:08.15 | Elsia | I'm gonna maintain recount as long as recount2 isn't a viable substitute |
| 21:08.16 | kergoth | probably depends on how quickly recount2 gets completed |
| 21:08.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:08.40 | jy | mmh new ptr build of 84 MB, there must be something interesting inside |
| 21:08.47 | Elsia | new ptr.. |
| 21:08.52 | Chaud | online already? |
| 21:08.56 | nevcairiel | probably new sounsd =P |
| 21:09.02 | nevcairiel | the patch is online, realsm are not |
| 21:09.22 | Chaud | hawt. |
| 21:09.25 | Chaud | time to take a look |
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| 21:10.16 | jy | ptr were down at 19h30 |
| 21:10.22 | CIA-9 | 03elsia * r63698 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Sync.lua): |
| 21:10.22 | CIA-9 | Recount: |
| 21:10.22 | CIA-9 | - Using :GetUnstrictLookupTable() for untranslated spells in LibBabble-Spell-3.0. Should hopefully remove the "missing translation" spam. |
| 21:10.32 | jy | 4-6h downtime |
| 21:10.39 | Elsia | whee, hopefully that'll deliver SPELL_SUMMON |
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| 21:12.24 | jy | 84 mb only in sound seems too much |
| 21:12.43 | jy | or thats new inn music |
| 21:12.52 | jy | but not speech |
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| 21:16.12 | Gnarfoz | I recently read something about arena games that end with you getting "-----" for all rating changes |
| 21:16.25 | Gnarfoz | and about them being credited to you ~20mins later... |
| 21:16.32 | Gnarfoz | anyone know where I might have read that? :D |
| 21:16.47 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: TTR "known bugs" list? |
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| 21:17.07 | pastamancer | should still be on the front page of mmo-champion |
| 21:17.24 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: hmm, it's happening on live, tho. and yes, I checked mmo-champ just now, but maybe I just scrolled past |
| 21:18.15 | pastamancer | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103820594&postId=51032413912&sid=1#0 |
| 21:19.10 | rubik | anyone level a paladin post-2.3? i'm confused about what spec is best to get me to 70 asap.. i've done the ret thing from 10-60 but i'm getting destroyed by even level mobs in the outlands now at 60.. i have to go prot spec to make leveling faster at this point, i take it? |
| 21:19.12 | Chaud | Sound\Music\ZoneMusic\Sunwell\ is full of more music =\ |
| 21:19.44 | Chaud | extracted it comes out to 73mb |
| 21:19.47 | jy | ^^ |
| 21:19.55 | pastamancer | rubik: I went ret 1-38, prot to 64, then holy to 70 |
| 21:20.43 | rubik | ok, thanks.. but did you level mostly by instances from 64-70 then? cause otherwise, holy "dps" would be terrible for questing, no? |
| 21:20.45 | Chaud | Russell Brower's music spam |
| 21:20.49 | Elsia | getting destroyed at 60 is temporary, once you have the first few ques upgrades you are fine retri |
| 21:21.03 | pastamancer | yeah, after I went holy, I did mostly instances and group quests |
| 21:21.20 | rubik | Elsia: that is true as well.. most of my gear is still junk.. quickly upgrading it to quest rewards ATM |
| 21:21.30 | pastamancer | but with +dmg on healing gear, holy shock isn't so bad |
| 21:21.47 | Elsia | hint: run ramparts twice, and blood furnace once, then you should have decent gear to quest more comfortably |
| 21:22.09 | Elsia | and you are probably lvl 61 which helps too |
| 21:22.59 | Elsia | the hardest part of outlands is doing the first few hellfire quests in bad oldworld greens |
| 21:23.19 | rubik | yeah, especially since i rushed to do 1-60 in record time in order to get TO outlands |
| 21:23.41 | rubik | skipping every old world instance and doing nothing but quests |
| 21:23.51 | Elsia | do ramparts or find someome to help you with the first 6 quests or so, upgrades come very fast. |
| 21:24.07 | Elsia | after then its easy street again |
| 21:24.10 | RagnarKon|AFK | does Ace2 have anything useful as far as AB buttons... or does the WoW API? Cause I'm not seeing it. |
| 21:24.30 | rubik | cool, will do, thanks.. i'll stick with ret then |
| 21:24.31 | Arrowmaster | AB buttons? as in actionbars? |
| 21:24.37 | RagnarKon|AFK | Yessir |
| 21:24.49 | RagnarKon|AFK | For example: Say I wanted to place text on AB buttons |
| 21:24.50 | Arrowmaster | you have to use the wowapi's SecureFrames |
| 21:25.18 | RagnarKon|AFK | kk, do I got to create a new frame over the button before I place the text in it or naw? |
| 21:25.21 | RaydenUni | you can do it |
| 21:25.25 | Arrowmaster | oh that |
| 21:25.27 | RaydenUni | what's the theorycraft mod... |
| 21:25.32 | RaydenUni | it shows me the dmg on my spells |
| 21:25.35 | RaydenUni | on the buttons |
| 21:25.38 | RagnarKon|AFK | well I know its possible |
| 21:25.45 | Arrowmaster | should be able to just do frame:CreateFontString() on the button |
| 21:25.50 | Arrowmaster | then edit the font string |
| 21:25.53 | RagnarKon|AFK | kk |
| 21:25.56 | rubik | DrDamage |
| 21:26.01 | RagnarKon|AFK | then frame:ShowText()? |
| 21:26.05 | RagnarKon|AFK | or something like that |
| 21:26.16 | Bruners | RaydenUni: ratingbuster? |
| 21:26.21 | RaydenUni | yeah i think so |
| 21:26.31 | RaydenUni | oh no |
| 21:26.32 | RaydenUni | drdamage |
| 21:26.48 | Arrowmaster | no you would have to do something like local frame = button:CreateFontString(); frame:SetText() |
| 21:26.54 | RaydenUni | it's nice cause it also shows dpm and dps and various other stats |
| 21:26.58 | Arrowmaster | look at other addons that do similair |
| 21:27.04 | RaydenUni | useful for rogue and druid finishers too |
| 21:27.16 | RaydenUni | although it tries to average with crits so the numbers aren't always what you expect |
| 21:27.21 | RagnarKon|AFK | yeah I was looking at the DrDamage lua file but theres no commands and hard to tell where the functions came from |
| 21:27.27 | RagnarKon|AFK | no comments** |
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| 21:27.53 | Primer | I know I've asked this before, but perhaps haven't stuck around long enough to get an answer but: Does anyone here have a level 19 twink rogue? |
| 21:28.09 | Primer | I'm making one, and am wondering what weapons and enchants to use |
| 21:28.15 | RagnarKon|AFK | If anyone has it, around line 1212 is the code for placing the text, but I can't figure out exactly what functions do what |
| 21:28.30 | Primer | He's already level 19 with all the quest/BoE gear I need |
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| 21:28.42 | Gngsk | Primer, stam/agi, crusader |
| 21:29.00 | Primer | Here's the toon: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Happyrogue |
| 21:29.19 | Primer | note I haven't done anything with the talents since I "took over" from my son playing (He's 9) |
| 21:30.06 | Primer | Gngsk: so perhaps stam to boots instead of minor speed? |
| 21:30.13 | Snago | lol, great name :P |
| 21:30.26 | Primer | My son picked the name |
| 21:30.31 | Arrowmaster | RagnarKon|AFK: 1215 is it hiding the text from macros |
| 21:30.32 | Primer | he has the 'happy' face |
| 21:31.13 | RagnarKon|AFK | Yeah I figured that much |
| 21:31.44 | Arrowmaster | 1287 is the function thats adding the text i think |
| 21:32.14 | Primer | Gngsk: so what about weapons? I have all the weapons here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Rogue_twinking_guide except for Shadowfang and the PVP dagger, which I'll get soon enough |
| 21:32.21 | RagnarKon|AFK | 1287 is an empty line for me |
| 21:32.30 | RagnarKon|AFK | in the GetRating function |
| 21:32.41 | Arrowmaster | DrDamage:CreateABtext for me |
| 21:32.46 | Arrowmaster | let me check if i need to update |
| 21:32.55 | RagnarKon|AFK | I may need to update myself |
| 21:33.08 | Arrowmaster | nope ive got most recent |
| 21:33.20 | Arrowmaster | but anyway |
| 21:33.21 | Arrowmaster | function DrDamage:CreateABtext( button, text, healingSpell, frame, r, g, b ) |
| 21:33.36 | Arrowmaster | button is the button, frame is the frame its going to put text onto |
| 21:33.53 | RagnarKon|AFK | kk |
| 21:33.56 | Arrowmaster | if frame isnt passed to it then its going to call another function to get or create the frame |
| 21:34.04 | Arrowmaster | look at that function |
| 21:34.13 | RagnarKon|AFK | so basically if there isn't a frame already it creates a new one |
| 21:34.49 | Arrowmaster | wait actually its scaning the children of the frame |
| 21:34.54 | Arrowmaster | button |
| 21:35.50 | RagnarKon|AFK | frame = DrD_GetTextFrame(false,button:GetChildren())? |
| 21:36.03 | Arrowmaster | 1315 is where it creates the frame |
| 21:36.38 | RagnarKon|AFK | yeah my line numbers are different than yours |
| 21:36.57 | Arrowmaster | local dpsText = CreateFrame("Frame", "DrDamageText", button) |
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| 21:37.35 | RagnarKon|AFK | kk |
| 21:37.49 | Arrowmaster | which actually seems kinda weird |
| 21:37.56 | RagnarKon|AFK | then the code following just sets the color and what the text says |
| 21:37.59 | jy | Changes to Flametongue (both Weapon and Totem) have been reverted. The healing reduction debuff has been removed. |
| 21:37.59 | RagnarKon|AFK | yeah I thought it was wierd |
| 21:37.59 | Arrowmaster | since i think its creating a bunch of frames with the same name |
| 21:38.10 | RagnarKon|AFK | it seems more complicated than it needs to be |
| 21:38.11 | sb | bah |
| 21:38.20 | sb | finally did za timed |
| 21:38.50 | Josh_Borke | all 4? |
| 21:39.29 | RaydenUni | i have yet to do one timed |
| 21:39.29 | Arrowmaster | RagnarKon|AFK: but yeah i think you can basicly do the same except instead of creating a new frame just do the CreateFontString stuff on the button |
| 21:39.44 | RagnarKon|AFK | how do you select the button? |
| 21:39.53 | RagnarKon|AFK | like, which button to put which text onto |
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| 21:40.02 | NeoTron | I suspect magic marker would help make timed runs easier |
| 21:40.21 | Arrowmaster | you mean like scaning all your buttons? |
| 21:40.27 | RagnarKon|AFK | yeah |
| 21:40.35 | ulic | jy: where you getting these changes? |
| 21:40.36 | kenlyric_ | you mean like sniffing them? |
| 21:40.41 | RagnarKon|AFK | there an wow api for that or is it an ace function or is it hidden in some other lua file |
| 21:40.47 | RagnarKon|AFK | I can't find it at all |
| 21:40.52 | Arrowmaster | you have to do that yourself |
| 21:41.05 | NeoTron | jy: not surprised, it was a silly change |
| 21:41.12 | kenlyric_ | jy: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4957.0 |
| 21:41.18 | kenlyric_ | errr, for ulic I meant |
| 21:41.19 | RagnarKon|AFK | oh, joy |
| 21:41.19 | NeoTron | "Changes to Life Tap have been reverted. Values are back to normal." |
| 21:41.37 | kenlyric_ | could just as easily be a revision control issue |
| 21:41.38 | jy | ulic: mmo champion |
| 21:41.38 | rubik | i still think they should call the spell what it is (Mortal Strike) when giving it to other classes |
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| 21:41.57 | kenlyric_ | blizzard never has revisions control issues. ever |
| 21:41.57 | rubik | it'll make it all feel less cheap that way |
| 21:42.00 | ulic | ah, they updated recently, cool, thanks |
| 21:42.10 | NeoTron | kenlyric_: doubt that is it in this case |
| 21:42.11 | Arrowmaster | RagnarKon|AFK: look at DrD_DetermineAB |
| 21:42.23 | NeoTron | kenlyric_: since they likely only have ONE ptr branch |
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| 21:42.33 | Crazysteve | Hey anyone here? |
| 21:42.56 | NeoTron | Crazysteve: nope, we're all gone |
| 21:43.05 | RagnarKon|AFK | I thought that just figured out if there was an addon mod for AB buttons |
| 21:43.12 | RagnarKon|AFK | like bongos |
| 21:43.13 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 21:43.28 | sb | Josh_Borke: http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3536/bdvbearha5.jpg :) |
| 21:43.34 | RagnarKon|AFK | mmk |
| 21:43.43 | Arrowmaster | since the mod has to know what actionbar mods are installed and then find that mods buttons |
| 21:43.44 | Josh_Borke | sb: GRATS! |
| 21:43.50 | Josh_Borke | how much time to spare? |
| 21:43.54 | Arrowmaster | and it has to be coded to work for each mod |
| 21:44.02 | sb | Josh_Borke: ~3 min |
| 21:44.09 | Josh_Borke | gj |
| 21:44.10 | RagnarKon|AFK | Well, I got to goto stupid EE lab, but I'll mess around with it sometime, thanks Arrowmaster |
| 21:44.22 | sb | easy with 2 healers :o |
| 21:44.36 | Josh_Borke | says you |
| 21:44.46 | Josh_Borke | you need to be well geared and work well together |
| 21:44.51 | sb | well - first time with 2 healers today, and worked well |
| 21:44.52 | sb | hmm yes |
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| 21:45.05 | Josh_Borke | oh wait, 2 healers |
| 21:45.11 | Josh_Borke | ooo, those have to be good healers |
| 21:45.20 | Josh_Borke | priest and shaman? |
| 21:45.23 | sb | yup |
| 21:45.33 | Josh_Borke | shaman chain heal + priest CoH = OPd |
| 21:45.38 | sb | hehe |
| 21:45.41 | Josh_Borke | coh priest, right? |
| 21:45.48 | sb | ofc :) |
| 21:45.58 | Josh_Borke | still, good job |
| 21:46.12 | Josh_Borke | is the bear mount guaranteed from 4th chest? |
| 21:46.15 | sb | yes |
| 21:46.23 | Josh_Borke | cool |
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| 21:46.37 | Isola | Evening gentlemens |
| 21:46.45 | Primer | I've been seeing a lot of bear mounts recently |
| 21:47.15 | Primer | I know of a dude paying 5k gold to the dude that won the /roll to get one |
| 21:47.26 | rubik | sb: what tanks do you guys bring? looks like 2 druids? |
| 21:47.39 | rubik | err.. maybe one is dps.. 1 druid, 1 warrior? |
| 21:47.40 | sb | Josh_Borke: me and my g/f, so it's easy to coordinate heals :o |
| 21:47.47 | sb | rubik: 2 durid, 1 warrior ;) |
| 21:47.48 | Isola | I had a Addon idea earlyer to day when I was raiding. Would it be possible and not to hard to code a addon that calculates all the mana % of the raid and display it in one big bar? |
| 21:47.53 | sb | for trash |
| 21:47.56 | rubik | ahh |
| 21:48.05 | Josh_Borke | nice |
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| 21:48.20 | Josh_Borke | isola: no, not at all. try out XRaidStatus |
| 21:48.25 | Josh_Borke | maybe it's just XRS |
| 21:48.27 | rubik | Isola: XRS can do that |
| 21:48.47 | Isola | Is that a complete raid UI or just that function :O |
| 21:49.05 | Isola | ? |
| 21:49.08 | Crazysteve | Does anyone know of a enhance shaman raiding ui? |
| 21:49.09 | Daemona | 85mb ptr patch ... wtf |
| 21:49.10 | Crazysteve | Pack |
| 21:49.13 | tester297487 | ckknight, are you there? |
| 21:49.16 | Josh_Borke | Isola: it's a single addon |
| 21:49.23 | ulic | it tracks raid health/mana/buffs, but you could just use it for mana |
| 21:49.45 | rubik | Isola: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1757.0 |
| 21:49.47 | Crazysteve | DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A ENHANCEMENT SHAMAN UI PACK FOR A RAIDING SHAMAN? |
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| 21:50.16 | ulic | asking in caps isn't gonna get it answered any better. |
| 21:50.24 | haste | it will probably do the opposite |
| 21:50.40 | sb | Josh_Borke: http://wowwebstats.com/hd2a1323ketog |
| 21:50.51 | ulic | i'd say if people don't answer that would imply that they don't know of any enh shammy ui packs |
| 21:51.01 | Isola | coolio tryin it out right now |
| 21:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | vhaarr |
| 21:51.06 | sag_ich_nicht | show up |
| 21:51.14 | Nandini | true, but i am now freakishly annoyed and prefer not to share my ultimate favorite enh shammy ui pack with him :P |
| 21:51.16 | rubik | Isola: you can configure/add bars to monitor a bunch of stuff |
| 21:51.18 | tester297487 | does anyone know if ckknight is here? |
| 21:51.19 | Josh_Borke | damn, that's a lot of dps |
| 21:51.33 | Isola | does it use alot of memory |
| 21:51.35 | Nandini | (j/k, i have no clue about shammies) |
| 21:51.39 | Josh_Borke | Isola: tyr it |
| 21:51.46 | Isola | i will |
| 21:51.46 | Isola | i am |
| 21:51.53 | Josh_Borke | isola: we can't answer every question for you, try it and see, if you don't like, delete it |
| 21:52.36 | Isola | haha yeah ofc, i just thought i would ask |
| 21:52.37 | Isola | :) |
| 21:52.40 | frop | sb wtf! |
| 21:52.49 | sb | frop: huh? |
| 21:52.56 | frop | the za's report |
| 21:53.22 | frop | what's your gear? |
| 21:53.23 | Josh_Borke | geebus, everyone did 1k DPS on the boss fights |
| 21:53.40 | tester297487 | alright, I will ask all of you. I'm looking for someone to do a WoW Addon program job for me. I've been trying to get ckknight, but he seems to be a hard man to get in touch with. Does anyone else know a good bit about coding int he WoW Addon interface that can help me build a complicated map addon? |
| 21:53.44 | sb | frop: click on armory link :o |
| 21:53.57 | frop | can't now...raiding ssc :) |
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| 21:54.10 | vhaarr | sag_ich_nicht: lern2pm |
| 21:54.15 | Josh_Borke | tester297487: post about it on the forums |
| 21:54.17 | vhaarr | sag_ich_nicht: I'm busy now I'll read pms later |
| 21:54.27 | chiper | ~ask2ask |
| 21:54.28 | purl | methinks ask2ask is people who ask if they may ask a question which is a question itself. So why don't ask your real question in the first place? ;-) |
| 21:54.38 | NeoTron | vhaarr: did you break /rarinvite in oRA2? It invited two members when I tried to invite trial raiders at a minimum (rank above member) |
| 21:54.41 | NeoTron | :P |
| 21:54.58 | chiper | tester: describe what you want, odds are it's already made |
| 21:55.01 | NeoTron | I wonder if the problem is the rank is called Trial Raide not Trial Raider |
| 21:55.07 | sb | frop: some t6 |
| 21:55.10 | nevcairiel | rainvite can do rank? |
| 21:55.12 | nevcairiel | amazing ^^ |
| 21:55.13 | NeoTron | and I did a /rarinvite Trial Raider |
| 21:55.22 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: /rarinvite does (I added the initial implementation) |
| 21:55.28 | NeoTron | s/added/wrote/ |
| 21:55.43 | tester297487 | Josh, can you please point me to the forum you are referring to? |
| 21:56.15 | chiper | probably the wowace forum |
| 21:56.26 | tester297487 | well I know which forum you are talking about, but which section should a job request be posted? |
| 21:56.38 | Josh_Borke | no clue about which section, there should be one appropriate though |
| 21:56.42 | Isola | Very nice addon this XRS thing |
| 21:56.44 | chiper | first why dont you describe what you're wanting |
| 21:56.49 | Isola | exactly what i had in mind |
| 21:57.00 | Josh_Borke | you could also try seeing if it's been done before by asking in channel (while it is still active) |
| 21:57.11 | frop | sb...i see...now i know how in 90minutes |
| 21:57.28 | vhaarr | NeoTron: dunno, write me a pm |
| 21:57.39 | tester297487 | I know for a fact it's never been done. It's a completely custom addon I'm trying to build for my guides at zygorguides.com |
| 21:57.44 | cogumel0 | what's the api to write a line in the chat box? |
| 21:58.01 | sb | frop: well - its not 90 min - some waiting (switch in people for malacrass loot) |
| 21:58.02 | NeoTron | I'll check tonight myself instead |
| 21:58.07 | NeoTron | looking at the code it didn't seem like it'd break |
| 21:58.07 | durcyn | cogumel0: ChatFrameX:AddMessage("foo") |
| 21:58.18 | cogumel0 | cheers durcyn |
| 21:58.22 | frop | well we can do it too in 90 minutes... |
| 21:58.25 | Josh_Borke | tester297487: what do you want it to do? |
| 21:58.32 | frop | ...our minutes are 180seconds...btw |
| 21:58.46 | cogumel0 | durcyn, why does it have the X there? |
| 21:58.53 | Josh_Borke | cogumel0: stands for a number |
| 21:58.54 | durcyn | cogumel0: replace that with the chat frame number |
| 21:58.56 | ulic | tester297487: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=8.0 |
| 21:58.57 | Josh_Borke | ChatFrame1 is the first one |
| 21:59.01 | Josh_Borke | ChatFrame2 is the second etc |
| 21:59.12 | cogumel0 | So would combat frame be the chatframe2? |
| 21:59.29 | durcyn | yes. |
| 21:59.51 | cogumel0 | I mean I understood it stood for a number, but seeing as blizz only uses 2 chat frames by default and we have the ability to make any kind of frames anyway... why number then and not name them? |
| 21:59.56 | tester297487 | I like Cartographer alot because of the precision of the map notes. So I want to use that framework if possible. But I want to try to place my pdf guides into the map addon so that when a guide step is clicked, the corresponding map note will start glowing ont he World Map, kind of like how MetaMap works |
| 22:00.12 | chexsum_ | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 22:00.29 | chiper | you cant display PFD ingame |
| 22:00.32 | chiper | erm, PDF |
| 22:00.36 | sb | Josh_Borke: and yes, CoH is sooo <3 :p |
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| 22:00.52 | Josh_Borke | tester297487: you should look into how TourGuide and TomTom interact |
| 22:01.04 | NeoTron | TourGuide is in-game area quest guides |
| 22:01.09 | NeoTron | might be a good basis indeed |
| 22:01.10 | Arrowmaster | and LightHeaded |
| 22:01.17 | NeoTron | lightheaded isn't quite the same thing |
| 22:01.22 | Arrowmaster | you can click coords in lightheaded and get a waypoint |
| 22:01.29 | NeoTron | althoguh what it does to is to give you the ability to activate a waypoint |
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| 22:04.50 | Mellerfal | tester297487: You could just gut TourGuide's included data and put in your own guides |
| 22:05.34 | Josh_Borke | i doubt that is allowed by tekkub's license |
| 22:05.35 | tester297487 | well i have custom map notes, thousands of them in cartographer that i created for my guides |
| 22:05.45 | tester297487 | i want to find a way to put my text guide in game and make it clickable |
| 22:05.46 | Mellerfal | josh_borke: almost certainly not |
| 22:06.19 | Mellerfal | however, you could find a way to have it plug into tourguide as a sort of "guide expansion pack" |
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| 22:06.25 | Zariel | ~tbr |
| 22:06.26 | purl | tbr is, like, ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 22:06.53 | Tekkub | *eyeroll* |
| 22:07.00 | Zariel | *hides* |
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| 22:07.50 | Josh_Borke | ~lart tekkub |
| 22:07.50 | purl | stuffs tekkub into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
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| 22:09.14 | Mellerfal | tekkub: btw, using the last tourguide release on wow-i, last night, the use item button was moved with my minimap but completely nonfunctional. i can give you more details in PM, if you like, but i'm pretty sure it's because it was about 1/3 off screen at the bottom |
| 22:09.14 | Dashkal | it doesn't appear to _have_ a licence... *shudders at default copyright* |
| 22:10.11 | _rane | any ideas why /tinytip doesn't work when the addon works otherwise properly? |
| 22:10.23 | Arrowmaster | _rane: because there is no /tinytip |
| 22:10.29 | Mellerfal | it's been rewritten substantially? |
| 22:10.52 | _rane | ok, so the information is outdated in the wiki |
| 22:11.08 | Mellerfal | this is a recent thing, but yes |
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| 22:13.35 | Dashkal | aha, a gpl2 declaration on the google code page |
| 22:13.43 | Arrowmaster | its not gpl2 |
| 22:13.57 | Dashkal | it isn't anything, no copyright notice, nothing. default rules |
| 22:14.07 | Arrowmaster | yes it is |
| 22:14.11 | Arrowmaster | look closer |
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| 22:14.45 | Dashkal | No click-Through to download, and no readme in the zip. no entry in the toc, and TourGuide.lua has nothing |
| 22:14.57 | Arrowmaster | http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 22:14.59 | Arrowmaster | right there |
| 22:15.08 | Dashkal | License: GNU General Public License v2 |
| 22:15.15 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 22:15.27 | Arrowmaster | i give up |
| 22:15.40 | Dashkal | ahh, there |
| 22:15.55 | rubik | hehe.. that WAS pretty tricky.. :P |
| 22:16.04 | Dashkal | Still, I didn't have to get anywhere near that notice to get at the files. I'm not saying it's open, I'm saying it's by default completely closed |
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| 22:16.58 | rubik | it's prolly because of what the actual license is (or isn't) |
| 22:16.59 | ckknight | tester297487: ping |
| 22:17.24 | tester297487 | ping? |
| 22:17.29 | Dashkal | *nods* that licence should probably be included in the zip for clarity, but it's not like Tekkub is obligated to do so. If you don't see that notice in the gc page... it's closed :p |
| 22:19.14 | ckknight | tester297487: you're supposed to say pong |
| 22:19.20 | tester297487 | LOL |
| 22:19.40 | NeoTron | EPONGMISSING: Protocol error |
| 22:20.24 | chiper | Disconnected from Host |
| 22:20.36 | Tekkub | Erection reset by beer |
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| 22:32.30 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: aceconfig question, GetOptionsTable returns a function or the results of a function so wouldnt that be a copy of the table and not a reference so that means once a table is registered it isnt editable? |
| 22:33.21 | nevcairiel | if its a copy depends on the implementation in the addon |
| 22:33.27 | nevcairiel | if its a table, it wont be a copy |
| 22:33.32 | nevcairiel | if its a function, depends |
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| 22:37.32 | Arrowmaster | ok and im guessing that whats said in the comments at the top of AceConfig-3.0.lua havent been implemented yet right? |
| 22:37.41 | Arrowmaster | 'Also automatically adds "config", "enable" and "disable" commands to options table as appropriate.' |
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| 22:38.27 | Arrowmaster | unless ive missed it and thats being done by config and command |
| 22:38.46 | Arrowmaster | err dialog and command |
| 22:45.25 | elusif | ckknight: sorry i was afk when you answered - the reason i ask is that i need outfitter to detect when i'm falling to equip a cape that will reduce damage when i land. i've spoken to the author and he doesn't know a way to detect falling. if you can think of anything i would be grateful |
| 22:45.43 | Arrowmaster | IsFalling() |
| 22:45.44 | ckknight | no way to detect that |
| 22:45.49 | elusif | shit |
| 22:45.50 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: srsly? |
| 22:45.53 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:45.55 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:45.59 | ckknight | it's IsFalling() :-P |
| 22:46.00 | elusif | i guess i'll just have to hotswap it when i jump of flying mount or whatever - ty |
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| 22:46.04 | Arrowmaster | but if you jump its true |
| 22:46.16 | elusif | ty! |
| 22:46.19 | elusif | i will post on curse |
| 22:46.29 | elusif | he doesn't put it on wowace for some crazy reason! |
| 22:46.34 | Primer | except it takes 30 seconds for that cape to take effect |
| 22:46.38 | elusif | nope |
| 22:46.39 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.40 | elusif | it's the rogue cape |
| 22:46.46 | Primer | ahh |
| 22:46.47 | elusif | not parachute cape, or the other one |
| 22:46.52 | elusif | the rogue cape pwns :) |
| 22:46.56 | elusif | i love you guys! |
| 22:47.15 | Primer | sigh, now I need to get Arena Grand Master |
| 22:47.28 | elusif | also - i just got a new weapon for my mainhand (rogue) - better dps and betters stats.. but it means i have a quicker weapon in my mainhand than offhand |
| 22:47.47 | elusif | is better dps and stats acceptable at the price of not having the slow weapon in my mainhand? |
| 22:48.14 | NeoTron | depends on the difference in stats I'd presume |
| 22:48.15 | Primer | discovery XP doesn't get bigger with rest XP, does it? |
| 22:48.29 | Arrowmaster | afaik no |
| 22:48.30 | Primer | I need to trek into STV to do Gurubashi arena |
| 22:48.47 | selckin | elusif: all caps to reduce falling activate cooldown when you fall? |
| 22:48.52 | Primer | I just dinged 19 by killing a mob so I could wear the level 19 gear |
| 22:48.54 | selckin | *equip |
| 22:49.17 | Arrowmaster | all capes but the rogue one are on use |
| 22:49.18 | Primer | so I have all of 19, but I also have discovery of Astranaar to WSG to get PVP rewards |
| 22:49.21 | sag_ich_nicht | okay, why is my WAU crashing? and don't give me any of that #WAU bullshit, i'll lurk/nag there if nobody in here has an answer for the question. |
| 22:49.35 | Primer | sag_ich_nicht: .NET sucks? |
| 22:49.47 | sag_ich_nicht | that's a fact, not a solution |
| 22:49.47 | Primer | for me it was always the .net runtime crashing |
| 22:50.00 | Primer | kinda out of your control when you don't have the source, eh? |
| 22:50.09 | Primer | so quityerbitchin |
| 22:50.13 | Primer | and use JWU |
| 22:50.18 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 22:50.18 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 22:50.33 | sag_ich_nicht | okay it stopped crashing |
| 22:50.37 | Dashkal | Use files.wowace.com and don't be lazy then :p |
| 22:50.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i assume there is some defect in the current index file |
| 22:51.12 | Arrowmaster | if so then somebody probably put a UTF8 BOM on a .wau file |
| 22:51.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 22:51.33 | sag_ich_nicht | massacre pls |
| 22:52.04 | Primer | haha |
| 22:52.16 | Primer | it's amazing how something so innocuous can seg the .net runtime |
| 22:52.42 | Primer | I'm no fan of java, but at least it's a bit harder to crash it |
| 22:52.50 | Primer | especially when you don't use JNI |
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| 22:53.07 | Dashkal | ugh, I hate jni so much |
| 22:53.09 | Primer | eclipse + subversion using JNI == segs, some times |
| 22:53.21 | Primer | subclipse, that is |
| 22:53.25 | durcyn | "Saying Java is nice because it works on all platforms is like saying anal sex is nice because it works on all genders" |
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| 22:53.33 | Dashkal | Oh? I haven't had subclipse crash eclipse yet |
| 22:53.38 | Primer | durcyn: some people would agree with that though |
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| 22:53.56 | Dashkal | Eh. Java is nice when it's nice... I like the language, but it's hardly perfect |
| 22:54.02 | elusif | netron i will link stats in a min |
| 22:54.04 | Primer | Dashkal: the eclipse that ships with Fedora segs like mad. But then they gcj compile all of it |
| 22:54.14 | Primer | which is 'not supported', according to the eclipse people |
| 22:54.14 | Dashkal | oh god |
| 22:54.15 | elusif | selckin: i don't understand what you mean |
| 22:54.26 | Dashkal | yeah, I run right off of the sun vm. no blackdown, no gcj. sun |
| 22:54.33 | Primer | same here |
| 22:54.39 | Dashkal | gcj is incredibly unstable |
| 22:54.57 | Primer | first thing I did after the first few segs was to rpm -e it all and install sun jdk and eclipse from tarball |
| 22:55.01 | Dashkal | ~/software/eclipse/jre is symlinked to my jre :p |
| 22:55.01 | purl | Dashkal: okay |
| 22:55.45 | Primer | I'm on x86_64 though |
| 22:55.45 | Dashkal | same |
| 22:55.45 | elusif | is there a way i can link a weapon's dps and stats into the chan like i can link a character's? |
| 22:55.45 | Dashkal | Though I think my jre and eclipse are 32 bit |
| 22:55.45 | Primer | I just realized all my Linux boxes are now x86-64 |
| 22:55.50 | Primer | all my desktop boxes, at least |
| 22:56.02 | Primer | ws at work, 2 ws at home, and laptop |
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| 22:56.45 | CIA-9 | 03benumbed * r63699 10DaPortrait/Constants.lua: |
| 22:56.45 | CIA-9 | DaPortrait: |
| 22:56.45 | CIA-9 | - Adjust a few models |
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| 22:57.12 | Primer | Anyone know of an addon that displays speed? |
| 22:57.21 | Arrowmaster | FuBar_SpeedFu |
| 22:57.23 | Primer | I want to add speed to my addon |
| 22:57.25 | Primer | thanks |
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| 22:57.42 | Arrowmaster | i recently updated it and changed how it detects speed (sorta) |
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| 22:58.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: so i won't have to set the base speed for characters in the bloodelven areas anymore? |
| 22:58.32 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:58.36 | RagnarKon | Figured some stuff out Arrowmaster |
| 22:58.39 | Primer | Arrowmaster: I'm going to rip some code out of it :) |
| 22:58.52 | RagnarKon | on the whole.. uhh, DrDamage stuff |
| 22:58.55 | Primer | I guess I should add a license text to my addon |
| 22:59.00 | Primer | think is, I _hate_ gpl |
| 22:59.06 | Primer | I'm a BSD man, myself :) |
| 22:59.25 | Primer | but since I ripped code from other GPL addons....GPL it is |
| 22:59.34 | Dashkal | heh, kinda binds you doesn't it |
| 22:59.44 | Primer | damn communists |
| 22:59.50 | Arrowmaster | what did you rip code from? |
| 22:59.54 | Dashkal | Which version of BSD is it that's still compatable with GPL? |
| 22:59.57 | Dashkal | 2? |
| 23:00.06 | Primer | trying to recall |
| 23:01.23 | Primer | VokdaFlyer, Gatherer, and Cartographer |
| 23:04.03 | elusif | can i link weapons into the chan like characters with the bot? |
| 23:05.15 | NeoTron | reminds me I need to put an offical license on MagicMarker |
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| 23:15.49 | Dashkal | After giving kde4 another shot now that it's released?: still fail |
| 23:15.55 | NivFreak | NeoTron: too late, we already stole your code! |
| 23:16.01 | Dashkal | pretty, but unusable |
| 23:16.02 | Primer | I wonder if windows people will have issues with my license text that has UTF-8 in it |
| 23:16.13 | Primer | Copyright 2008-∞ |
| 23:16.33 | Arrowmaster | make sure it has a utf8 bom then |
| 23:16.42 | Primer | it's in my .lua file |
| 23:16.55 | Primer | what does BOM stand for, btw? |
| 23:17.01 | Dashkal | byte order mark |
| 23:17.01 | Arrowmaster | byte order mark |
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| 23:17.13 | elusif | originally my rogues two swords were the follow: 'thrash blade' - 66-124 dmg / 35.2 dps / speed 2.70 / chance on hit: grants an extra attack on next swing ********* 'protector's sword' 66-124 dmg / 35.2 dps / speed 2.70 +11 strenght +5 stamina (both swords can be used in either hand) ***** should i replace thrashblade with 'blade of the wretched' 52 - 98 dmg / 35.7 dps / speed 2.10 / chance on hit: corrupts the target causing 90 shadow damage / + 16 ap |
| 23:17.15 | Primer | and I guess that's some sort of binary file magic thing? |
| 23:17.23 | Primer | I'm going to guess my editor will do that for me |
| 23:17.30 | Dashkal | powerPC orders integers in the opposite way from intel |
| 23:17.35 | elusif | if this wouldn't mean i had a quicker weapon in the main hand than the slow hand i wouldn't need to ask |
| 23:17.37 | elusif | please help |
| 23:17.51 | Primer | before: FlightHUD.lua: ASCII English text |
| 23:18.01 | Primer | after: FlightHUD.lua: UTF-8 Unicode C program text |
| 23:18.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah it should have a bom then |
| 23:18.39 | Primer | score 1 for eclipse! |
| 23:19.05 | Arrowmaster | unless file is just detecting the utf8 chars inside the file and guessing that its utf8 |
| 23:20.10 | Primer | file usually reads file magic, AFAIK |
| 23:20.26 | Primer | i.e. first bytes |
| 23:20.32 | NivFreak | man, I really want to know what brilliant glass is going to be |
| 23:20.40 | NivFreak | I have like 3 stacks of green gems |
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| 23:24.21 | Dashkal | hmm, looks intriguing |
| 23:24.51 | Antiarc | You know, there are few things I enjoy more than someone bitching at me about stylistic points in the addon that I produce and distribute for free. |
| 23:25.10 | sdouble | which addon? |
| 23:25.20 | Antiarc | Just in general |
| 23:25.23 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103813523&sid=1 |
| 23:26.32 | Primer | I wonder what percentage of female characters are played by males, and vice versa |
| 23:26.55 | Primer | How many of you are male with a 70 female character? |
| 23:27.04 | Antiarc | <-- |
| 23:27.17 | Antiarc | Our MT is female and plays a male dwarf |
| 23:27.23 | sica | <- |
| 23:27.35 | cladhaire | <-- male with 70 female |
| 23:27.38 | shadowzero314 | after i get my pally to 70, because blood elf males are that bad |
| 23:27.45 | Primer | I wonder if the ratio is even close |
| 23:27.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: or, you could take the constructive critic for what it is, and ignore it's wording. |
| 23:28.02 | chiper | primer: she's only 63, but yeah |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-9 | 03endeavour * r63700 10BossTalk/ (BossTalk.lua BossTalk.toc BossTalk_tables.lua): |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-9 | BossTalk: |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-9 | - Search: results are now clickable, leftclick plays the result, rightclick opens an options menu |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-9 | - Added an ignore menu to Playernames in Chat/Target/Party/Raid if you rightclick on them |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-9 | - Hope you like it, Hook me baby! :-) |
| 23:28.13 | shadowzero314 | but every female that i raid with plays a female toon |
| 23:28.47 | sica | Primer: all women in my guild (we currently have 17) play female chars too |
| 23:28.48 | Primer | yeah, I've noticed that females tend to play female characters almost always |
| 23:28.51 | Antiarc | I know the guy probably meant well, but it comes across as "Well I'm an old software engineer that doesn't care enough to write addons, but I'm gonna tell you whippersnappers what you'd better do" |
| 23:29.01 | Primer | very rarely do I see a RL female playing a male character |
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| 23:30.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: as i said, just ignore how he words it :) people are assholes, so what. if they have a point, take the point. if they don't, don't. i don't even agree with all of what he said, just saying making your judgement dependant on the wording of the message instead of of it's content is foolish |
| 23:30.23 | Primer | How would you suggest I rephrase it? Put a redundant, insincere-sounding "Please..." at the start of each sentence? |
| 23:30.26 | Primer | he has a point |
| 23:30.42 | Antiarc | Or just rename the topic "Hey, here are some usability tips for new addon authors" |
| 23:30.56 | Primer | some people simply have no tact |
| 23:31.02 | Primer | doesn't mean there's malice in their words |
| 23:31.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Primer: correct, which is my point |
| 23:31.25 | Primer | sag_ich_nicht: yeah, you have no tact at all |
| 23:31.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 23:31.32 | Primer | but I believe you're still a nice person |
| 23:31.36 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 23:31.37 | Primer | or am I wrong? |
| 23:31.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ACTUALLY |
| 23:31.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i have some tact |
| 23:31.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i just tend to ignore it |
| 23:31.56 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: You're actually likable despite the utter and complete lack of tact, though :P |
| 23:31.56 | Primer | my IRC persona can be like that |
| 23:32.05 | Primer | but IRL....shit, I'm also like that! |
| 23:32.41 | sdouble | Antiarc, that's pretty shitty of him. He even compiled a list of things that authors should do for him. |
| 23:32.46 | sag_ich_nicht | there is no point in wasting the equivalent of CPU cycles for rephrasing what i say, i just say what i have to say, or i stfu |
| 23:33.08 | Antiarc | sdouble: If it were "Hey, here are some things that you can do to really polish up your addon" then I'd have had no problem with it |
| 23:33.26 | Primer | I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt |
| 23:33.29 | Antiarc | But it's a "You unpaid monkeys better make your software work how I want it to, and here's how you're going to do it" |
| 23:33.38 | Antiarc | Which makes me :headwall: |
| 23:33.40 | Elsia | there was a study that shows that most people play characters of the opposite sex, guys and girls alike |
| 23:33.43 | sag_ich_nicht | you're overreacting Antiarc |
| 23:33.47 | Primer | having hung out in IRC since...1995...it's very easy to misread people's written text |
| 23:34.03 | sag_ich_nicht | you interpret it that way because you WANT to intepret it that way, probably because someone gave you shit like that in the past |
| 23:34.03 | Primer | since there's no cue as to their facial expressions or tone of voice |
| 23:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | irc-psychology time |
| 23:34.15 | dylanm | Where's this what |
| 23:34.20 | Antiarc | sag_ich_nicht: It's consistently a sore point with me that people bitch about free open source software, rather than fixing it themselves. |
| 23:34.51 | Primer | Elsia: but I'd venture a guess that the ratio of men playing female characters is much greater than women playing male characters |
| 23:35.23 | Antiarc | Not just this one thread. Just the attitude in general that people are -owed- something, when addon developers are working for free on their spare time because it's something they love. |
| 23:35.31 | Primer | Antiarc: and it's a consistently sore point with me when I complain^W suggest to an open source developer and they tell me "patches welcome" |
| 23:35.40 | sica | hm, most women in my guild said they played a female char because they look prettier |
| 23:35.53 | Primer | that's why I chose my female character |
| 23:35.56 | Primer | she's HOT! |
| 23:35.57 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11490/ |
| 23:36.02 | dylanm | That's why I chose mine. |
| 23:36.15 | Dashkal | the "Patch or STFU" attitude just baffles me. If you're going to be that hostile to the public, you really shouldn't be releasing to the public. |
| 23:36.18 | Wobin | huh |
| 23:36.23 | Antiarc | Primer: Why's that a sore point? Devs don't have unlimited time, and in open source software, it's exceedingly easy to fix something yourself and create a patch for it, then you, the author, and all the other users benefit. |
| 23:36.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: yeah, but i do that with closed-source software too. i don't have the will to fix it, but it(where "it" can be anything" annoys me enough to post about it. if someone fixes it, fine. if someone doesn't fix it, fine, i'll be a nagging annoying son of a bitch until it gets fixed. i don't say "you have to fix this!!!11one" tho. i just tell you "do it faggot, or i'll continue being a dick". most of the time it works :P |
| 23:36.38 | Primer | Antiarc: if you're a programmer, sure |
| 23:36.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: because you know, users are not programmers and have no intend to become such |
| 23:36.50 | dylanm | Someone link to whatever's being discussed here? |
| 23:36.56 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: Thank you |
| 23:37.04 | Antiarc | Primer: Non-programmers reporting bugs, completely different situation. The guy that wrote that thread is a self-professed 20+years software developer. |
| 23:37.07 | sag_ich_nicht | dylanm: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103813523&sid=1 |
| 23:37.11 | Primer | which is why I usually do write the patch...but it's still annoying, especially when someone just wants a feature without having to learn a new language (for example) |
| 23:37.15 | sica | well, my human female priest looks like a granny ;) - like some old abbess - and yes, I was into RP once |
| 23:37.16 | chiper | sica: that's my GFs reason. she doesnt think any of the male characters look good |
| 23:37.35 | sag_ich_nicht | human male look aweful |
| 23:37.39 | dylanm | Oh. |
| 23:37.41 | sag_ich_nicht | i still play one tho, out of spite |
| 23:37.42 | dylanm | This isn't so bad. |
| 23:37.54 | Antiarc | I'd like to think I have pretty decent bug support for my users - I don't expect users to learn Lua to help me fix something - but I really appreciate it when someone debugs something and patches it up for me. I mean, REALLY appreciate it. |
| 23:38.01 | Primer | I have an older looking human male warlock with greying ratty hair and a beard. I look fugly |
| 23:38.13 | Primer | but menacing! |
| 23:38.20 | dylanm | I thought some guy was ripping into Omen or something. |
| 23:38.24 | Primer | I guess that really reflects me IRL |
| 23:38.33 | Antiarc | I picked a human female for my rogue because the males are Hulked out and that's not "stealthy" |
| 23:38.40 | chiper | my gnome warlock looks positively evil |
| 23:38.43 | Antiarc | dylanm: Nah, just a general response. |
| 23:38.46 | Dashkal | Antiarc: I can't help but dislike that one as well. The fact that I'm a programmer doesn't mean I have the time to submit patches for every thing that I'd like to see changed (not defending his tone here, just making this pont) |
| 23:38.49 | Aeyan | Antiarc: Yep. |
| 23:38.53 | chiper | deep dark brows and a nasty frown |
| 23:38.54 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:37] <+Antiarc> Primer: Non-programmers reporting bugs, completely different situation. The guy that wrote that thread is a self-professed 20+years software developer. <--true, but that shouldn't stop you from accepting the critic. the way you make it look, you would accept the very same critic, from, e.g., me, when phrased a bit differently |
| 23:38.56 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: i reported it too |
| 23:38.58 | Aeyan | I won't make a human male rogue/caster/etc for that reason. |
| 23:39.07 | Aeyan | He-man in a robe doesn't look right at all |
| 23:39.08 | Elsia | I pick races and genders based on "fun". hence I don't play humans :P |
| 23:39.10 | Dashkal | I'd be spending 30 hours a day writing patches considering how much OSS I use... |
| 23:39.43 | Wobin | humans have one thing that is entirely useful though |
| 23:39.45 | Wobin | Diplomacy |
| 23:39.50 | Primer | Dashkal: I hear that |
| 23:40.02 | Elsia | yep, since it's world of repgrind |
| 23:40.04 | Antiarc | Dashkal: Not everyone has time, sure. Addon authors don't have unlimited time either, though. I'm not complaining about bug reports, I'm complaining about people coming in with a sense of entitlement over something I've created and released for free. |
| 23:40.14 | Dashkal | No argument there |
| 23:40.18 | Antiarc | I don't have a problem with people reporting bugs, or wanting fixes, or whatnot |
| 23:40.36 | Antiarc | But when people start demanding that I do things a certain way, on my free time, in my hobby project, I get a little prickly. |
| 23:40.36 | Elsia | anti: some people are just jerks, 20 year programmers or not |
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| 23:41.11 | chiper | infact, 20 year programmers are most likely to be jerks, because they've become assured of their superiority |
| 23:41.17 | Dashkal | Absolutely. There's constructive criticism and there's being combatative |
| 23:41.35 | Elsia | there are no demands from free software really, it's that simple, if someone comes with demands they lack social skills at the bare minimum and have a false sense of entitlement |
| 23:41.51 | Yssaril | anyone know of an event that fires when your pets targets health changes? |
| 23:41.55 | chiper | news flash, if you've been programming for 20 years, you probably have 20 year old coding methods |
| 23:41.58 | Wobin | Although it appears I got my human rogue to 60 without anyone actually looking at me. It took stripping down to do Ossirian that they realised I had a black character =P |
| 23:42.05 | Antiarc | Yssaril: UNIT_HEALTH probably does, for pettarget |
| 23:42.06 | Dashkal | Nice, chiper |
| 23:42.24 | Yssaril | Antiarc: nope already tried that /cry |
| 23:42.37 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: that was fast, get somebody to delete it for you? |
| 23:42.38 | chiper | I took a job briefly under a guy who had been coding since the 70s. the man still used subroutines, his code was littered with gosub and goto |
| 23:42.44 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: Kael =) |
| 23:43.17 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: and Kody, it seems =) |
| 23:43.19 | Dashkal | I wonder how dated I'll look clinging to my "old school OOP" design :p |
| 23:43.21 | chiper | he was positively convinced that was good programming. he also never used indenting or proper comments |
| 23:43.33 | chiper | I quit after just two weeks |
| 23:43.43 | nevcairiel | pet-target is a "weak" unit |
| 23:43.46 | nevcairiel | you have to scan HP yourself |
| 23:43.48 | nevcairiel | no events |
| 23:44.05 | Dashkal | I'm very curious to see what methodology will spawn out of parallel programming. |
| 23:44.28 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: so basically setup a time when my pet has a target that scans it say every sec or so? |
| 23:44.35 | Yssaril | *timer |
| 23:44.41 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: point them to http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/11433/ while your at it |
| 23:45.01 | RagnarKon|AFK | -_- this whole text on the AB buttons is frustrating me till no end |
| 23:45.04 | Arrowmaster | check the comments for humor |
| 23:45.39 | chiper | google has failed me. What is Parallel Programming? |
| 23:46.48 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: Is that not pstyae's? |
| 23:47.00 | chiper | oh, I see |
| 23:47.09 | sica | chiper: basically it's all about threads, splitting your tasks into parallel running "processes" |
| 23:47.14 | chiper | just breaking the code up into smaller chunkes for multiprocessing |
| 23:47.48 | chiper | the way Dashkal phrased it made it sound like some new project management process |
| 23:48.00 | Yssaril | chiper kinda instead of jsut doing one thing after another it will do 2 things at once 9think of it as multitasking) |
| 23:48.02 | Nandini | on a larger scale, it can refer to designing software that is optimized for running on parallel computing systems |
| 23:48.03 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: ah, I see |
| 23:48.18 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: pstyae = moron |
| 23:48.33 | chiper | multithreading, i got it |
| 23:48.38 | sica | btw, it makes me mad iTunes is only using one core when converting from MP3 into AAC -.- |
| 23:48.40 | CIA-9 | 03peragor 07AutoLayout * r63701 10Grid/Grid/ (GridLayout.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 23:48.40 | CIA-9 | Grid: |
| 23:48.40 | CIA-9 | - Added Layout sort "By Role" which uses talent spec to determine grouping (tank, melee, healer, ranged). |
| 23:48.46 | Dashkal | I'm just making a note at how (using OOP as we currently know it) parallel coding is hard. Synchronization. Avoiding deadlocks and starvation, etc. That kind of thing is hard |
| 23:48.54 | Arrowmaster | not like it would actually do anything by uploading it to curse so he could use the curseclient to update it since he would have to keep updating the one on curse |
| 23:48.56 | chiper | sica: it's not using the primary core tho, right? |
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| 23:49.07 | Nandini | hmm i wonder how autolayout by role assigns feral druids? |
| 23:49.08 | FrodoBR | :D |
| 23:49.08 | Dashkal | So I'm expecting some new way of doing things that makes it less "hard" |
| 23:49.14 | sica | chiper: well, in fact it is |
| 23:49.16 | FrodoBR | hello guys good night[?] |
| 23:49.21 | chiper | sica: eww, bad apple |
| 23:50.00 | Primer | bah, I think my boss firewalled the wow port |
| 23:50.03 | FrodoBR | anyone can foward me a nice addon for count the swing time? :D |
| 23:50.08 | chiper | primer: ha ha |
| 23:50.18 | Primer | I have access to the firewall though |
| 23:50.35 | chiper | frodo: there used to be one called Lance |
| 23:50.43 | Nandini | Dashkal: Improvements in large-scale parallel systems should make it easier to design applications that take full benefit of them |
| 23:50.57 | Nandini | (supercomputing scale, i mean) |
| 23:50.57 | Primer | either that or auth is down |
| 23:50.58 | Arrowmaster | so i the russian version of wow out yet? |
| 23:50.59 | Wobin | sica: Really? One of my friends was saying how he enjoyed having three cores running simultaneous conversions with iTunes |
| 23:51.41 | Dashkal | Nandini: I hope so, but we still need to tools to reduce the issue of starvation/deadlock to really go with this. Or to just train a new gen of programmers to think in those terms. Hard to say. |
| 23:51.45 | sica | Wobin: yeah, totally sure |
| 23:51.48 | chiper | sica: mac or windows? |
| 23:51.53 | sica | Mac |
| 23:51.58 | Wobin | huh |
| 23:52.01 | FrodoBR | chiper :D thanks i will look for it o/ |
| 23:52.04 | sica | never tried windows though |
| 23:52.06 | Wobin | You'd expect mac would have it =) |
| 23:52.12 | Wobin | being apple and all =P |
| 23:52.33 | chiper | yeah, OSX is supposed to multitask on it's own, it's built right into cocoa |
| 23:53.07 | FrodoBR | chiper where can I find it? Isn't into the "L" section :/ |
| 23:53.15 | Elsia | nite |
| 23:53.19 | sica | well, apple seems to rely on the kernel for these things, a lot of daemons (like backupd) seem single-threaded as well and use only one CPU-core |
| 23:53.21 | Nandini | grr yet again i have flown somewhere obscure and alt-tabbed away while in flight, now i can't remember why i was going there |
| 23:54.15 | chiper | frodo: when I said used to, I meant over a year ago :) |
| 23:54.19 | Wobin | Nandini: for the nookie |
| 23:54.23 | chiper | try cyrse |
| 23:54.28 | chiper | *curse |
| 23:54.33 | FrodoBR | chiper nice to know >.> |
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| 23:54.44 | sica | Nandini: like what? Thorium Point? |
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| 23:55.37 | chiper | hmm, nope, not on curse any more |
| 23:56.00 | FrodoBR | Anyone help me please :/ |
| 23:56.05 | chiper | oh, quartz has a swingtime bar |
| 23:56.07 | FrodoBR | I want an addon to count the swing time :~~ |
| 23:56.12 | FrodoBR | waa |
| 23:56.16 | FrodoBR | Wartz..lets see |
| 23:56.20 | FrodoBR | Quartz* |
| 23:56.27 | chiper | that IS an ace mod |
| 23:56.42 | FrodoBR | Modular casting bar o0 |
| 23:56.47 | FrodoBR | wtf it do? |
| 23:57.25 | FrodoBR | :X |
| 23:57.28 | FrodoBR | I'm a noob :~~ |
| 23:57.36 | chiper | its a casting bar mod, it gives you a casting bar |
| 23:57.48 | FrodoBR | I already have one o0 |
| 23:57.54 | FrodoBR | wow have one |
| 23:57.54 | FrodoBR | o/ |
| 23:57.55 | chiper | theres a module to draw a cast bar for the weapon swing |
| 23:58.07 | FrodoBR | oh...... |
| 23:58.09 | chiper | it expands on the built in cast bar |
| 23:58.09 | FrodoBR | :) |
| 23:58.18 | FrodoBR | cool o/ |
| 23:58.26 | FrodoBR | lets virus check |
| 23:58.28 | FrodoBR | and test :D |
| 23:59.06 | FrodoBR | =p |
| 23:59.12 | FrodoBR | http://www.virustotal.com/ ftw |
